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For most of the year, it is the duty of the press to scour the known universe looking for ways to ruin your day. The more fear, guilt or angst a news story induces, the better. But with August upon us, perhaps you're in the mood for a break, so I've rounded up a list of 10 things not to worry about on your vacation.
Now, I can't guarantee you that any of these worries is groundless, because I can't guarantee you that anything is absolutely safe, including the act of reading a newspaper. With enough money, an enterprising researcher could surely identify a chemical in newsprint or keyboards that is dangerously carcinogenic for any rat that reads a trillion science columns every day.
What I can guarantee is that I wouldn't spend a nanosecond of my vacation worrying about any of these 10 things. (You can make your own nominations in the TierneyLab blog.)
1. Killer hot dogs. What is it about frankfurters? There was the nitrite scare. Then the grilling-creates-carcinogens alarm. And then, when those menaces ebbed, the weenie warriors fell back on that old reliable villain: saturated fat.
But now even saturated fat isn't looking so bad, thanks to a rigorous experiment in Israel reported this month. The people on a low-carb, unrestricted-calorie diet consumed more saturated fat than another group forced to cut back on both fat and calories, but those fatophiles lost more weight and ended up with a better cholesterol profile. And this was just the latest in a series of studies contradicting the medical establishment's predictions about saturated fat.
If you must worry, focus on the carbs in the bun. But when it comes to the fatty frank or the fatty anything else on vacation I'd relax.
2. Your car's planet-destroying A/C. No matter how guilty you feel about your carbon footprint, you don't have to swelter on the highway to the beach. After doing tests at 65 miles per hour, the mileage experts at edmunds.com report that the aerodynamic drag from opening the windows cancels out any fuel savings from turning off the air-conditioner.
3. Forbidden fruits from afar. Do you dare to eat a kiwi? Sure, because more "food miles" do not equal more greenhouse emissions. Food from other countries is often produced and shipped much more efficiently than domestic food, particularly if the local producers are hauling their wares around in small trucks. One study showed that apples shipped from New Zealand to Britain had a smaller carbon footprint than apples grown and sold in Britain.
4. Carcinogenic cellphones. Some prominent brain surgeons made news on Larry King's show this year with their fears of cellphones, thereby establishing once and for all that epidemiology is not brain surgery it's more complicated.
As my colleague Tara Parker-Pope has noted, there is no known biological mechanism for the phones' non-ionizing radiation to cause cancer, and epidemiological studies have failed to find consistent links between cancer and cellphones.
It's always possible today's worried doctors will be vindicated, but I'd bet they'll be remembered more like the promoters of the old cancer-from-power-lines menace or like James Thurber's grandmother, who covered up her wall outlets to stop electricity from leaking.
Driving while talking on a phone is a definite risk, but you're better off worrying about other cars rather than cancer.
5. Evil plastic bags. Take it from the Environmental Protection Agency : paper bags are not better for the environment than plastic bags. If anything, the evidence from life-cycle analyses favors plastic bags. They require much less energy and greenhouse emissions to manufacture, ship and recycle. They generate less air and water pollution. And they take up much less space in landfills.
6. Toxic plastic bottles. For years panels of experts repeatedly approved the use of bisphenol-a, or BPA, which is used in polycarbonate bottles and many other plastic products. Yes, it could be harmful if given in huge doses to rodents, but so can the natural chemicals in countless foods we eat every day. Dose makes the poison.
But this year, after a campaign by a few researchers and activists, one federal panel expressed some concern about BPA in baby bottles. Panic ensued. Even though there was zero evidence of harm to humans, Wal-Mart pulled BPA-containing products from its shelves, and politicians began talking about BPA bans. Some experts fear product recalls that could make this the most expensive health scare in history.
Nalgene has already announced that it will take BPA out of its wonderfully sturdy water bottles. Given the publicity, the company probably had no choice. But my old blue-capped Nalgene bottle, the one with BPA that survived glaciers, jungles and deserts, is still sitting right next to me, filled with drinking water. If they ever try recalling it, they'll have to pry it from my cold dead fingers.
7. Deadly sharks. Throughout the world last year, there was a grand total of one fatal shark attack (in the South Pacific), according to the International Shark Attack File at the University of Florida.
8. The Arctic's missing ice. The meltdown in the Arctic last summer was bad enough, but this spring there was worse news. A majority of experts expected even more melting this year, and some scientists created a media sensation by predicting that even the North Pole would be ice-free by the end of summer.
So far, though, there's more ice than at this time last summer, and most experts are no longer expecting a new record. You can still fret about long-term trends in the Arctic, but you can set aside one worry: This summer it looks as if Santa can still have his drinks on the rocks.
9. The universe's missing mass. Even if the fate of the universe steady expansion or cataclysmic collapse depends on the amount of dark matter that is out there somewhere, you can rest assured that no one blames you for losing it. And most experts doubt this collapse will occur during your vacation.
10. Unmarked wormholes. Could your vacation be interrupted by a sudden plunge into a wormhole? From my limited analysis of space-time theory and the movie "Jumper," I would have to say that the possibility cannot be eliminated. I would also concede that if the wormhole led to an alternate universe, there's a good chance your luggage would be lost in transit.
But I still wouldn't worry about it, In an alternate universe, you might not have to spend the rest of the year fretting about either dark matter or sickly rodents. You might even be able to buy one of those Nalgene bottles.


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Dinner Tonight: Chicken Casserole with Morels, Fava Beans, and Spring Potatoes Recipe
Your source for quick recipe every single week day.
I usually think of roast chicken as a comforting winter meal, especially when served with potatoes that have cooked in all the glorious chicken fat. But there is no doubting that this recipe from Cooking with Daniel Boulud is a spring dish. There is no other time of the year when the combination of morels, fava beans, and small new potatoes would taste so good.
This also happens to be one of the first times I've ever cooked with morels, and—while they are expensive—I need to take more advantage of them. They're cooked in olive oil, then braised with stock. When added to the roasting pan, they cook down to nearly nothing, but their flavor is all over this dish. Every bite has a complex earthiness. Though I valiantly attempted to plate this dish, no picture can really do it justice.
- Yield:4 people
- Active time: 30 minutes
- Total time:one hour and 20 minutes
- Rated:
- 1 cup chicken stock
- 2 cups shelled fresh fava beans (about 3 pounds in their pods)
- 1 tablespoons plus 1 ½ teaspoons olive oil
- ½ pound fresh morels, stems removed, rinsed twice, sliced ½-inch thick
- salt and pepper
- 1 chicken (about 3 ½ pounds)
- 16 garlic cloves, unpeeled
- 1 bay leaf
- 1 sprig fresh thyme
- ½ pound small new potatoes (about golf ball size), scrubbed, cut in half
- 8 small shallots, peeled and halved
- 3 tablespoons fresh chives, minced
Preheat the oven 425°. Cut the chicken into 10 pieces. You'll end up with two legs, two thighs, two wings, and two breasts cut in half crosswise.
Pour one quart of water into a saucepan set over high heat. When boiling, add the shelled fava beans. Cook for one minute, and then drain in a colander. Rinse under cold water to cool. Remove the tough outer skins of all of the fava beans. Discard the skins. Set the fava beans aside.
Pour the 1 ½ teaspoons of olive oil into a large skillet set over high heat. When shimmering, add the morels, and a pinch of salt and pepper. Cook, stirring often, until tender, about 2 minutes. Pour in the chicken stock, and boil for three minutes. Turn off the heat and set skillet aside.
Pour the remaining one tablespoon of oil into a large cast-iron pan or large roasting pan. Season chicken pieces with salt and pepper. Turn heat to high, and when oil is shimmering, add the chicken pieces skin side down. Cook pieces until golden brown, five to seven minutes.
Flip each piece of chicken, and then add the garlic cloves, bay leaf, chopped thyme, potatoes, shallots, and a pinch of salt and pepper. Stir well, and then transfer to the oven and cook for 15 minutes. Stir every five minutes or so.
Pour in the morels and chicken stock, stir again, and cook until the chicken is completely cooked, 25 to 30 minutes.
Remove from the oven, and set back over a burner. Turn heat to medium and add the fava beans and half the chives. Cook until everything is incorporated, about three minutes.
Serve chicken pieces with the potatoes and fava beans. Garnish with the rest of the chives.
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Tips for a Successful Job Search
In dressing for success you want to make sure you are what sticks in the interviewers mind, not something you wore that distracted them. While 90% of interviewers may never notice your plaid tie or ill-fitting coat, you don't want to miss out on a great job because it distracted the interviewer for the job you really wanted. With this in mind, always choose your interview clothes to present a professional appearance and always err on the side of being more conservative with your clothing choices. Below are some suggestions based on years of experience and feedback. If you have questions about something in particular or need advice, we are always available.
For Men:
A Few Dos:
- Always wear a suit or sports coat and slacks, and make sure they fit properly.
- To be safe, choose suits in dark grey or navy blue (black can work too). Sports coats should be navy blue.
- Always wear a tie, and simple ties with diagonal stripes in basic colors are best.
- Shoes are brown or black dress shoes, polished and in good repair.
- Belts must match the color of your shoes.
- Choose shirts in white or very pale blue without stripes, checks or any other pattern.
- Shave. If you have a beard, mustache or goatee, then make sure it is trimmed.
- Clip and clean your finger nails.
- If it is a hot or humid day, carry a handkerchief to pat yourself dry before your interview and remember to wear an undershirt to avoid sweat stains.
A Few Don'ts:
- Never wear a polo or non-dress shirt to an interview.
- Never wear a tie clip or other visible jewelry other than a watch, wedding ring or cufflinks.
- Never wear a boldly pattered or plaid tie.
- Never wear a dark shirt.
- Stubble is never a good idea.
- Never wear anything that is dirty, so check the collars, cuffs, ties and everything else for stains.
- Do not wear cologne.
For Women:
A Few Dos:
- Wear a conservatively fitting skirt or pants suit in a dark color.
- Wear pantyhose if wearing a skirt.
- Wear low, conservative heels or flats. This is not the time for platforms, stilettos, or peep-toes.
- Wear your hair off of your face, and your make-up (if you wear it) natural & polished.
- Have clean, "naturally" manicured or bare nails.
A Few Don'ts:
- Don't wear anything too tight or revealing. No mini-skirts or plunging necklines.
- Don't wear too much of anything- be it perfume, make-up, or jewelry.
- Don't wear anything that will distract from the professional impression you want to make. This includes red shoes, blue nails, large earrings, etc. There will be plenty of time to show your unique style and character ONCE you have the job and have proven yourself.
- Don't play with your hair, or flip it around during the interview. It's very distracting and does not make a professional impression.
If you have met with us before, you know that we have some strong thoughts on legal cover letters. You can access examples in your student orientation handbook, a copy of which is available on Symplicity here. In general, remember the three paragraph rule:
- Paragraph 1 – Who you are, who they are and why they matter to you. Show you know the firm and what it does. If you have a personal connection with the hiring partner or Agency, now is the time to drop that name.
- Paragraph 2 – Kick the dog or pet the dog! Don't tell them your honest, hard-working, diligent and trustworthy; give them an example of what you have done that shows your qualities.
- Paragraph 3 – Thank them for the time, indicate what materials you have included with the letter and tell them you will call in a week to confirm they received your materials.
Non-Legal Cover Letters
Outside the legal arena your cover letter and resume may need to change to meet the standards and expectation of that industry. If you are looking at a non-legal opportunity, make sure to make the time to see us so we can help you craft your materials.
Many opportunities require you to submit a writing sample. It is important that the sample you submit be your own work, unedited by a professor, judge or another student. What an employer wants to know is how strong a writer you are. Good choices for a writing sample include your first year lawyering memo, a bench memorandum or order your drafted for a judge, or your law review article. If it was your lawyering memo, make sure to go back and edit it based on the feedback you got from your instructor. If it is something you prepared for a judge, make sure you have the court's permission to use it as a writing sample, and that the employer is aware of this. If it is your law review article, make sure it is a draft you prepared, not one that was substantially edited and not one that was rewritten by someone else.
In all cases, the time to start working on your writing sample is sooner, not later. Writing samples take time to prepare and you want to have it ready to go when the right opportunity comes along.
Following up is key to any successful job search. In your cover letter we always tell you to close by telling the employer you will call in a week to make sure they got the materials. After an interview follow-up is even more critical. Within 24 hours you should send a thank you note (mail is the preferred method but email is become more common). In the note make sure you mention something specific and personal about the interviewer so they know this isn't a generic thank you note.
If the employer asked you for more materials or you promised to send them something, do it that day if possible, and in all cases within 24 hours. If the employer critiqued your materials (maybe a typo in your resume?), then send them a revised version that day, even if they did not ask for it. When you do, let them know you appreciate their advice and that you wanted them to have the revised version in hand.
Even if you do not get the job, clerkship, externship or other opportunity, maintain the relationship. It is a small world and you will find yourself running into the same people again and again. So if you see them in the community: say hello, shake their hand and smile.
Don't forget the staff either. Professionals in any business rely on their support staff to succeed. If the staff does not like you, there is a good chance you will not make the cut. So if you interviewed in a small office or a support staff person gave you a fair amount of help, send them a quick thank you note too.
Estimates are that 60% to 70% of jobs are never posted, but are filled by word of mouth. Because our loyal alums can be found across the region, in every state and in countries around the world, this network gives you incredible access to these un-posted opportunities.
When you ask for an informational interview, you are not asking for a job, you are asking the interviewer for their time and advice. By not asking for a job, they do not have an excuse to say no if they are not hiring and they feel no pressure to make an offer if they are. This makes it much more likely that they will take the time to meet with you.
Once you are in the door, if you impress them and they are looking to make a hire, they will let you know. Even more important, if you make the right impression they may refer you to people in their network. This might mean that you get a chance to have an informational interview with someone they know or that they suggest you as a candidate for a job they become aware of by word of mouth.


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kaimana1 wrote:I will answer this by tommorow morning my dear yos- when i will have plenty of time.
Ok Kai i am far from done i just could post Part 1 and Part 2 rebutal because i had other things to do
We oppose Islam, not Muslims. We are against hate, not faith
kaimana1 wrote:I will answer this by tommorow morning my dear yos- when i will have plenty of time.
Yos im confident that mss is a mistranslation it makes no sense for it to be 616,
666 In rev means and symbolized the antichrists imperfection.
No more imperfect then if i have 666 bucks in my wallet or 777 bucks - the verses arent talking about a transaction yos
I dont know about the bismilillah
ut is 666 neatical miles the difference between the dome and mecca?
You have plenty of muslims with similar wacko theories
Why yes they do according to the hebrew of the time.
First of all Take two issues at hand: the definition of "cud" and that of "chewing." Let's take a closer look at the Hebrew version of both. Here is the word for "cud" according to Strong's:
gerah, the cud (as scraping the throat): cud.
. First, this word is used nowhere in the Old Testament besides these verses in Leviticus and Deuteronomy. We have only this context to help us decide what it means in terms of the Mosaic law.
Second, refection is a process whereby these animals pass pellets of partially digested food, which they chew on (along with the waste material) in order to give their stomachs another go at getting the nutrients out. It is not just "dung" that the hares are eating- which is probably why the Hebrew word for dung was not used here.
Contrast this with what cows and some other animals do, rumination, which is what we moderns call "chewing the cud." They regurgitate partially digested food in little clumps called cuds, and chew it a little more while mixing it with saliva.
So then- partially digested food is a common element here. We therefore suggest that the Hebrew word simply refers to any partially digested food -the process is not the issue, just the object.
Or you might say
"verse says 'bring up' the cud- sounds like regurgitation to me."
Yos the Hebrew word in question is not specific to the process of regurgitation but is instead merely a phrase of general movement. And related to the specific issue at hand, the rabbit is an animal that does "maketh" the previously digested material to "come" out of the body (though in a different way than a ruminant does) and does thereafter chew "predigested material." The mistake is in our applying of the scientific terms of rumination to something that does not require it
silly anyways because they dont percieve human politics or kings etc
ngel made balaams donkey APPEAR to talk like a ventriliquist
ts a prophecy of the apocalypse yos with the 7 headed beast representing world govt-
Iraneus spoke of the book of revelation in late 2nd century yos
Nero died 30 years before john wrote revelation.
nd no the dead sea scrolls dont show that
The talmud is based on rabbinic opinion yos
I can only imagine that yt video where muslims slay the context of james white....
Tabaris tafsir is fairly accepted by learned orthodox muslims
Where did you get such info yos about sam
Really zakir naik really never defended the quran in that debate
william was old and had the decency to lie
Ali sina demolished most if not all of zakirs lies
zakir naik has not only refused to debate ali sina but sam shamoun as well.
From: sami z (firstname.lastname@example.com)
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hi, i come in peace.
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Osama, you most excellent kaffir.. how dare you insult our Prophet(P) by saying he has a mental disease wallahi, if I ever meet you on the street.... youre done.... and it WILL happen.I'll triangle choke you You can come down to my ju jitzu gym. This is JIHAD.
You will love this one yos. Court documents shows that Nadir was accused of beating his wife, divorcing her, marrying someone for a month and then divorcing her!
>sami z <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
> lol he is very stupid indeed. he claims christian prince humiliated me,
>thats why all the muslims in the room were laughing at cp for running away
>from the debate, which was recorded.
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Subject: RE: CRUCIFIED SAVIORS
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Assalamu Alaikum,
Hey Mr. "Missionary" Shamoun, apparently your not really popular with your christian crowd.
When I posted these 2 links>> http://www.answering-christianity.com/s ... moun_4.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/s ... _mouth.htm
Here is what one Christian said after reading it:
evanslablah: all that's crazy
evanslablah: i was reading them but couldn't continue
evanslablah: i don't think that guy's a missionary. it's only his claim but he's not one
evanslablah: i asure you that wht he's doing is not christian. he's only satisfying his personal ego
Good Job!! LOL
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hey shamoun why is that on a pc you always act hard and talk crap? yet face to face you become this little B and
start begging nadir to be your friend and ending the past beef? i dont understand this...........i hope someone else on this list could explain that? is that a peace-loving Christian trait you guys have or what????????
well paul did sanction lying when you go face to face so i guess you are actually following your bible.....
When did Jesus crucifixion bcome the new covenant....?
More over the Quran said بني إسرائيل not spiritual israelites.
So if Mahatma Ghandi lived in that time in Israel he would have been killed that my argument Kai.
o rly?
Isaiah 1:26 Isaiah 2:4 Isaiah 2:17 Isaiah 25:8 Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9 Jeremiah 31:33 Isaiah 11:12 Isaiah 11:4.
Can you show me some passages from the OT about a second comming or rising from the dead?
According to the Tanakh kai.
Isa ibn Mariam is the Messiah. Not the demon that came to Paul.
Not that i am aware of.
Nope i am trying to prove the Biblical Jesus is not the Messiah not Isa ibn Mariam.
Yup i belive the Tanakh is corrupted and NT is recycled Sun God myth so dont get confused if im attack the prophets in those books.
According to the 4 fake gospels sure.
Ohh so Jesus was a worm more over when did Psalm become a book of prophecies?
How is psalm a law more over do Jews or Christians regard David as a Prophet?
How is Bukhari a homosexual kai?
Im sure Naik wouldnt insist on cutting it kai. + He is a Dr.
He would have been exposed easily if he did Kai.
Muhammad had a good relation with Banu Qurayza Kai,the reason they backstabed him was because the Quran was insulting them.
Can you show me where Banoo is in 9:30 Kai?
Waqalati alyahoodu AAuzayrun ibnu Allahiwaqalati annasara almaseehuibnu Allahi thalika qawluhum bi-afwahihim yudahi-oonaqawla allatheena kafaroo min qablu qatalahumu Allahuanna yu/fakoon
Can you show sources that the OT was translated into Arabic in Muhammads time. he only Bible they had back then was in Hebrew and i belive Assyrian.
As for Volume 6 Number 478
for he never had a dream but it turned out to be true and clear as the bright daylight.
Can you say if any of the biblical prophets had this abilty Kai?
By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you, for by Allah, you keep good relations with your kith and kin, speak the truth, help the poor and the destitute, entertain your guests generously and assist those who are stricken with calamitiesAre any of the biblical Prophets as nice as this? Last i read Elijah let bears eat children and Moses knocked out an angel and Jesus told his deciples to steal a donkey
.There is a contradiction between Volume 1 Number 3 and Volume 6 Number 478 who are we to take most logical Kai? The Gospel was not translated to Arabic untill around 1600Ad thats 1000 years after that event
So how did they read the Greek Gospels?
For Christ also suffered once for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive by the Spirit, by whom also He went and preached to the spirits in prison. 1 Peter 3:18-19
No not really this is the Injeel.
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Now this is where your going to sweat because the Gospel existed before the NT which you call the Gospels Kai and dont blame it on mistranslations.
Where did Ibn Kathir consider him a follower?
The Quran is not a story book Kai. Unlike the bible who go the story
unlike the Bible who got the story about King Nebuchadnezzar or should i say "prophecy" Ezekiel 30:10-11 Christian try to say this prophecy did come true in the battle in Carchemish but he didnt conquere. In 568 BCE he tried again but the pharaoh Amasis II crushed him.
This is why you are smart Kai you go to the weakest link of Answerin-Christians Sami Zataari.
Well i acctual like the way Osama build Answerin-Christianity from zero knowledge. And he did sayhe was sorry about the lie and you cant proof the accusation that he wouldnt do the same for the Christians
As to Sami i think he did a bad thing and he didnt follow surah 5:51
More over i dont se why Sam wanted Nadir to debate him so bad
Besides Nadirs foul mouth and childish behaviour he is well read.
Thank you Kai i am not a hafiz
He is lying about it Kai you know dam well each of those ayas where for specific wars.
More over Kai i posted Audios the best you can do is Email to defend Sam Shamoun?
He is according to Nadir
I also remember reading this in Answering-Christianity but could find it now. Can you prove other wise Kai?
you dont even know the context of those snapshots from paltalk on osamas site
We will see about that.
Ofcourse not Kai maybe i should have added the word Christian before.
James White admited the bible is corrupt Kai.
If you dont agree that the Bible is corrupt Kai than Christians must be able to Drink deadly drinks and play with snakes.
Mark 16:18 They shall take up serpents, and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them. They shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."
Really Kai David Wood? Who will you mention next Nabeel Qureshi? Ergun Caner? Robert Spencer? Since i had the Idea that Sam Shamoun was rock buttom here but we can go under that Kai no problem.
David Wood lying.
More lies from both clowns.
Id like to se you try defend this one from the filthy Sam Shamoun Kai.
Dr James White sinks to an level where he wants to debate on ABN Sat against Dr Zakir Naik.
Audio records of Sam running from Nadir.
There are some good Christians to Kai, like Dr William Craig. Did you watch this debate?
It was sad he used the talmud to defend his claims but atleast he put up a Good show.
If the entire building went on fire and lives was lost wouldnt that be a massacre Kai. Arson is still a crime. No i didnt source for the charges being dropped?
Yes any one saying the bible is word of god is a clown Kai.
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/05/muslim-commenter-sinks-to-new-low.htmlPlease do Kai
idk about that maybe he just obtained a picture and used tineye.com to get the rest.
Typo, Christians Internet Evangelists who attack Islam.
Dont we all make mistakes Kai?
] public apology to brother Jalal Abualrub for lying on him
Is that not impressive Kai?
How do you know that Kai?
Because the filth coming from his mouth is very Christian alike.
and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to Allah alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection.
The belivers here are muslims Kai not Nasara.
Ohh how do you know that Kai?
There is not a single shred of evidence that Jesus was crucified either Kai,
Deceptions and Myths of the Bible, p. 343
And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)]:
Jesus was crucified on a Tree kai. The cross came 400 years later.
They are more right than the filty Catholics.
Jws are god people Kai, if they would drop the son god doctrine tey would be as good as the Jews.
Christianity was created in the Councile of Nicea not a religion of the followers of Christ.
Like Tom Harper states:
"The divine teacher is called, is tested by the "adversary", gathers disciples, heals the sick, preaches the Good News about God's kingdom, finally runs afoul of his bitter enemies, suffers, dies, and is resurrected after three days. This is the total pattern of the sun god in all the ancient dramas". (The Pagan Christ, p. 145)
According to a Late Antique summary of Aeschylus's lost play Bassarids, Orpheus at the end of his life disdained the worship of all gods save the sun, whom he called Apollo. One early morning he went to the oracle of Dionysus at Mount Pangaion[42] to salute his god at dawn, but was ripped to shreds by Thracian Maenads for not honoring his previous patron (Dionysus) and buried in Pieria.[14] Here his death is analogous with the death of Pentheus. For this reason it is sometimes speculated that the Orphic mystery cult regarded Orpheus as a parallel figure to or even an incarnation of Dionysus himself]
Where can i find the Gospel of Jesus Christ?
At that time the knowledge of this wasnt as known as it is today.
know Kai this one is more authentic.
Maybe god was testing Muhammad when he took the life of his son. Even so God gave him Hasan and Hussein.
Thanks Kai. Is it in English?
Did the verse says that?
Ive debated Muslims on this who even included masterbating here.
No kai pork is more unhealty.
Is read meat as filthy as a pig?
Unsure what you meant there Kai.
I will refute this later Kai. I just asked you a question you didnt give me an answer. I aska again.
Btw its also from 10th 11th and 12th century.
Yup Kai that why their faith is dying.
Yup what about it? Did you also know it didnt contain Revelation?
Might not be kai.
3:55 is talking about muslims Kai.
61:14O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah , as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, "Who are my supporters for Allah ?" The disciples said, "We are supporters of Allah ." And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant.
1. It said Childrne of Israel not Rum.
Dont you think coming to the most Anti-Islamic forum in the world is a little bit unfair kai ?
Yup that why i called her a retard.
Imam Mehdi is not the Messiah. No muslim will say this.
He might be a Messiah according to the Bible as according to the Dead Sea Scrolls there are 3 Messias
but Ygalg knowledge is not that high that he meant to go that far. We tried mixing Dajjal with Mehdi which is why i got angry.
Ok lets talk about Rafida scum Kai. 12er garbage.
Only since about 1971- they differ in many ways- alawis drink alcohol- celebrate epiphanes etc....
Because Alawis count them self as twelver also.
Are their books really authentic enough Kai? Maybe i should start using Eastern Orthodox books also and claim its Christian?
No Kai Shias are clowns and Imam Mehdi will return with Jesus Inshallah.
You know that hadith is a bit weak.
No you didnt kai try again.
Yup only ?of them is a Zionist to.
Can you show me this claim? Also didnt you watch the videos i posted?
So Russian Rabbis are Dhimmis?
They think the are some kind of choosen people Kai.
Im sorry 1 of the prophets was suppose to be Elijah.
Source: John 1:21
Didnt Muhammad do this? His prophecies beats on of the biblical ones.
,I didnt expect something like this from you Kai. Muhammad did this to remove the attached love Muslims had for the Paganism
after 5 years they could then turn back to the Kaba that Prophet Ibrahim build and inshallah Archelogical evidenc ewill one day prove this Kai, what excuse will you have then?
Ofcourse you mak ask Kai, you may ask anything.
To give you answer i want you to give me your definition of a devout muslim.
No it not well documented Kai. A Fox News report is not well documented Kai.
Anwar Al Awlaki was a historian america didnt like him exposing them so they called him an Al Qaeda member announced his deaht 4 or 5 times than they killed him Illegaly in Yemen and 2 weeks later his 15 year old Son this is your goverment Kai this is why i dont like it.
Have you heard any of his lectures Kai? They are quiet good.
Yos1994 wrote:Next you had on the list was David Wood who i showed above is a Liar. Here is a video he posted where he got arrested.
Ozes wrote:Yos1994 wrote:Next you had on the list was David Wood who i showed above is a Liar. Here is a video he posted where he got arrested.
Yea... thats why the judge ordered to give him compensation
Why is that Kai? The 616 is more authentic than the sources for 666.
Be careful kai some Christians here might think that you are the anti christ.
This is why i insult Christians
Its impossible to make those Greek letters into Bismillah.
665.65 i belive. I guess no other measurement that Neutical Miles fitted.... Stupid Christians...
Enlighten me about this so called "wacko theories".
Eating dung is not chewing the Cud kai in any language
What does this have anything to do with the case that Solomon could speak to ants?
Non sence as you would have put it.
THE LORD OPENED THE DONKEY'S MOUTH, and she said to Balaam, 'What have I done to you to make you beat me these three times?'" Numbers 22:28
Could you post some proof to this Kai?
John didnt write the revelation Kai There where prob some legends about Nero and the number 616 so the churche added that to the book aswell.
Yes they do kai Exodus, 1 2 Samuel and Jeremiah that where found in the forth cave showed that todays versions are indeed corrupted.
The firstone not the once that where reconstructed in the 16th century.
There is no Orthodox Muslim that accepts the Satanic Verse theory kai.
He just spend over half of his first 55 min debunking the embryology, mountain, sea barrier did you even watch the debate Kai?????
It is William who didnt defend thebible instead started speaking about prophecies forgeting the topics. He got grilled.
THe older the wise eh Kai? Zakir Naik was 35 years old back then. More over it was an overkill, William didnt even answer 1 of Zakirs arguments. Dr Zakir naik refuted everything William talked about. No Christian has ever come close to Zakirs greatnes sin knowledge of religion.
More over if William felt so old why did he debate him? Why didnt he send Sam Shamoun instead? Who looked like an idiot at 1:07:00 and im sure Naik wouldnt have minded it either after all Sam did debate Shabir in that same year.
No i dont think so Kai.
What what what?! Ive already posted a video refuting this.
None of those clowns are big enough to debate Zakir Naik.
Zakir said he doesnt debate someone that cannot provide 10k in audience.
And as far as i know Ali Sina doesnt debate.
And Ali Sina doesnt have any knowledge about Islam. For crying out loud he tought that Abu Bakr was the foster brother of Muhammad.
As to your cute little link all that have been debunked answering-christianity. I can also play the link game Kai.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/y ... buttal.htm[/url
What year did Sami ask sam for help?
What year did Sami call sam Fatboy, Cross worshiper?
From: sami z (firstname.lastname@example.com)
Sent: Tue 9/04/07 11:27 PM
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
So what is your point Kai? AC had war with ETT so Sami asked a Christian for help. Is this compareble to Sams foul mouth?
More over AC are not debater on paltalk they are preachers. They convert people to Islam.
They once converted a an entire Church.
Sami, Osama, Nadir, Sam, Wood, Christian_Prince, are lone wolfs in Paltalk. When they have a debate if they feel they made an impact they post it on their website if not they dont.
But i did enjoy a good laugh Kai When nadir said.Osama, you most excellent kaffir.. how dare you insult our Prophet(P) by saying he has a mental disease wallahi, if I ever meet you on the street.... youre done.... and it WILL happen.I'll triangle choke you You can come down to my ju jitzu gym. This is JIHAD.
Hahahaha i enjoy this Kai im not biased.But Nadir have a ego why AC even takes him serious idk.
Nadir is a clown kai ive already said that he is a child before.
I dont belive things based on documents but it wouldnt surprise me when he start talking about fights.
But lets find the truth Kai.
sami z <firstname.lastname@example.com> wrote:
> lol he is very stupid indeed. he claims christian prince humiliated me,
>thats why all the muslims in the room were laughing at cp for running away
>from the debate, which was recorded
Christian_prince do indeed run from Sami.
Matter infact he runs from any fair debate and only debates in his own room.
Also i dont know why AC wants Nadir to remove the debate. It never took place.
CP couldnt answer him he just brought some fabricated hadiths and Nadir keep talking about babies being killed.
Since you liked the subject of Muslims disagreeing lets have a look at Christians disagreeing.
Hey Mr. "Missionary" Shamoun, apparently your not really popular with your christian crowd.
When I posted these 2 links>> http://www.answering-christianity.com/s ... moun_4.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/s ... _mouth.htm
Here is what one Christian said after reading it:
evanslablah: all that's crazy
evanslablah: i was reading them but couldn't continue
evanslablah: i don't think that guy's a missionary. it's only his claim but he's not one
evanslablah: i asure you that wht he's doing is not christian. he's only satisfying his personal ego
John Gilchrist who is held high in Answering-Islam
From: "Yusuf Ismail" <firstname.lastname@example.com>
To: email@example.com
Subject: FW: CHALLENGE TO A DEBATE-SOUTH AFRICA
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 00:11:35 +0200
Assalamualaikum Osama Abdallah
I thought you would be interested in including this email in ur abusive
email sections. I mailed a copy to Gilchrist in Benoni and he informed
me that Sam Shamoun doesn't represent mainstream Christian thinking but
fanaticism. Post this in the dumpster section. This man has diarrhea of
his mouth. Nothing he says on his site is of any substance and judging
by his emotionalism, bad grammar and response, maybe its not worth
responding to debris. Based in South Africa, I am curious to know: has
this sadist ever engaged in a public debate or does he confine his
irrationality to abusive emails and poor writing?
-----Original Message-----
From: sam shamoun [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: 28 January 2007 21:15
To: firstname.lastname@example.com
Subject: RE: CHALLENGE TO A DEBATE-SOUTH AFRICA
I would love nothing more than to destroy a bastard like yourself, not
just your student. In fact, to make it fair I want to squash both you
bastards. Instead of having me come there, set it up here in the USA with one of
your terrorist orgnaizations so I can bury you with Deedat. Afterall, that
fat demon Deedat didn't mind coming here so you should have no problem
doing likewise so I can embarrass you and shw to the world it is your prophet
who was a pervert. And I doubt you are a man to set it up here but I will
wait. Bring your bite next time, not your bark.
>From: "Yusuf Ismail" <email@example.com>
>To: <email@example.com>
>Subject: CHALLENGE TO A DEBATE-SOUTH AFRICA
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:02:21 +0200
>My name is Yusuf Ismail and for a short period of time I was based at
>the Islamic propagation Center International. I presently reside in
>Durban, South Africa. Over the course of the years I have engaged
>individuals such as John Gilchrist, David Foster and other individuals
>who are not small time barkers such as yourself.
>I had the misfortune of recently seeing your abusive emails with Osama
>Abdallah. There are in my opinion two reasons for your abuse. One
>that you are an insecure imbecile and need to make a point. The other
>the shallowness of your thinking and failure to come to terms with the
>irrationality of your perverted religion. One could go on speaking of
>the filth that emanates from a book you consider to be "divine", but I
>would rather deal with hardcore scholarly research. Have you for
example studied the documentary hypothesis. You are therefore
>invited to debate a student of mine, if you do not have cold-feet.
>We could make the flight arrangements and necessary trip to meet you
>you wish. However if you are feeling somewhat weak, we cold have an
>internet debate. Judging by your writings and corrupted views, you
>bow down for the latter.
>Let me have your response.
Christian_Prince tells Sam to shut up.
Here a Email you didnt post Kai.
RE: 'terror of the Lord'... and Shamoun won.. ooooooook.?
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hey shamoun why is that on a pc you always act hard and talk crap? yet face to face you become this little B and
start begging nadir to be your friend and ending the past beef? i dont understand this...........i hope someone else on this list could explain that? is that a peace-loving Christian trait you guys have or what????????[
Seems like 2 years after Sam and Nadir became friends according to Sami? This is 2008 the emals you posted where 2006.
Sami Zaatari said...
http://muslim-responses.com/Wood_and_Tr ... and_Truth_
the link, these were old emails people, i admit they were wrong, thats why me and shamoun made a treaty. but these emails have nothing to do with the present situation, Wood is taking an old situation completely out of context.
December 14, 2008 8:12 PM
That was the point of the injeel yos
I know that- we know the quran is NoT clear
Only if he worshipped other gods inside israel yos. if ghandi was a canaanite at that time then he wouldnt be mahatma ghandi.
You left out psalm 91 so you want to play the game of is osama twisting these verses or what?
well christians would use daniel 12:9 daniel chapter 9. Now yos do you believe that jesus is coming ?
Or you mean to your distorted view of the tanakh?
You havent been able to prove that isa is jesus name- isa does not correspond with yeshua in any shape or form
How do you know that mo wasnt confronted by a demon who called himself jibreel?
The entire concept of jesus comes from the NT yos- let that sink in
So you believe the tanakh and the injeel are corrupted??
Check out this link yos by professor abdullah saeed explaining in detail that the charges that most modern day muslims about the bible being corrupted are unfounded
http://www.quranandinjil.org/sites/defa ... 0Saeed.pdf
So where is the real gospel yos god says he protects his words - where are they?
Jesus said he came to fulfill the torah the prophets david is a prophet- any learned christian knows this- besides luke24:44 He said to them, "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms."
again yes david is a prophet- the problem arises when you muslims consider adam and lot prophets.
Thats the point yos i have as much evidence for bukhari being a homo as you do with paul being a homo
Thats right yos mo would think the hebrew word banou was IBNU. got it?
They had the hebrew, aramaic (syriac)and greek not assyrian-
Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 1, Number 3:
Khadija then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqa bin Naufal bin Asad bin 'Abdul 'Uzza, who, during the PreIslamic Period became a Christian and used to write the writing with Hebrew letters. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write.
Yos you left out this part Khadija replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you
So i khadijah a prophet
The isnad with arabic is FAR more stronger but even the one you displayed says the same thing except he wrote the gospel in hebrew
Notice how they all say he became a christian??? Jews dont believe in gospel yos.
Christians dont belive in that Gospel either kai? Can you find me a Peshitta or an New Testament including The Gospel of the Nazarenes orThe Gospel of the Ebionites orThe Gospel of the Hebrews?They wouldnt have too as the peshitta was in existence- where does the word injil derive from yos? al bishara would be a proper arabic word for the gospel but they used the word derived from the GREEK
Coptics still use Injeel today so im confused now Kai what you mean when was the word al bishara used?Notice how it says preach THE GOSPEL. thanks for bringing that verse up to prove that the gospels are ONE. Like i said yos jesus was the gospel i told you this before. His disciples wrote the teachings of jesus down.
So the 30 gospels are 1? More over i bet i can make a 101 contradiction out of the 4 in the New Testament if i took the time so how are they 1?His tafsir regarding surah al anfal
Well the quran is UNCLEAR -
after shishak was crushed at carchemish nebuchadnezzar took the entire levant and judah as well...they also made egypt tributaory and henceforth nebu made egypt work for him by producing the tribute
Hmmm is that your OPINION ?
Gimme a break yos Are you naive enough to believe that it took osama 8 or 9 years to understand that lying is wrong???? LOL and contrary to what he claims osama was losing alot of viewers and was under alot of pressure to issue that apology- he has lied about answering islam many times and he never retracted those statements.
You are most welcome! i cant wait till the day when you complete your apostacy and write articles against islam for iffo's new site.
The rashidun didnt think so. nor did the ummayads ,seljuks, rasulids safavids, ottomans or the moghuls etc....etc...
Nadir has been exposed and you still insist on taking him seriously? do you have any integrity yos?
That is twisting what james was saying.
Any christian knows this was refering to jesus disciples
You missed the part of verse that says they miraculously could speak in foreign tongues. why to spread the gospel and to testify that they had gods holy spirit
as for handling snakes it isnt a test yos- it was merely telling how they would be protected any serious christian knows that you never put God to the test like that. If naik knew the bible so well he would have known that.
That isnt lying yos- they took the fatwah seriously ? why should you be surprised yos- theres isnads of multiple hadees and sirat that say aisha was 9 when mo pierced her. So thighing a little girl wouldnt be surprising
So how is that proving him a liar yos?
That makes muhammad a clown then HA hAAA
Nasara were the muslims yos...that is what mo was alluding to.
Dont you believe in swoon theory yos?
Read that carefully yos.
LOL and if you muslims dropped the crescent and venus symbol you would be like the jews.
Dont you believe that jesus was born to a virgin preached the good news ran afoul to his enemies and suffers (according to swoon theory)
The NT yos.
No yos- but aisha bewley is translating it as we speak.
Hmm really?
It has since 250 years before muhammad-
Yos Dont you get it? mo is calling those christians "MUSLIMS" even the christians at najran told mo that they were muslims already (in the arabic sense)
So you expect me to believe that sheikh imam constantine and sheikh imam simon peter were muhammads muslims yos?
Yos israel was not a nation at the time judea and samaria and galilee were provinces of the roman empire
Are you serious yos? do you really think ummah.com or sunni forums etc... would let me post that kind of research???
No yos- show me that dead sea mss
5:82-83 christians are closer then the jews. Granted magi and sabians are only mentioned twice in quran.
That wasnt my point yos they are khazars according to you - they follow the talmud despite the fact that most other jews including yemeni jews follow talmud.
The quran says they were 5:20-21
Jews at the time believed elijah would come back during the end of days.
What would you do if archeology proved otherwise yos?
when i was a youngster 16 i considered myself a devout christian- I didnt commit fornication(i had opportunities) smoke cigs or drugs - i would pray to god almost every dayand night. before and AFTER every meal - i would witness to people even colleagues in my high school. I even auxilliary poineered (60 hours of knocking on doors a month) I was pretty devout
WhY do you consider yourself nOT devoutas a muslim, do you miss prayers? do you commit fornication etc.... eat sausage pizza? drink a beer
What about cnn?
Esposing them??? no yos he ran jihad sites he influenced muslims like the soldier of allah major nidal hassan
Not really yos, 616 makes no sense- in many parts of the revelation 7 is used to symbolize gods perfect judgement- 6 simply represents the number of imperfection or MANS number as oppsed to gods number.
Like i said i have been called everything but a one legged eskimo.
No wonder you hate christians- because this is similar to those crackpot illuminate theories you believe in yos. it's like looking into a mirror for you yos
because the quran is saying that solomon heard the ant queen percieve solomon being a king and his army marching along- explain how the ants percieve human affairs yos? do you actually believe this?
You should have proved that.
That is like saying the reconstructed 12th century quran!!! LOL
Yos do you know who the narrator is that tabari used for one of the isnads? IBN ISHAQ
Williams is the only christian that he has ever debated yos
Why is that yos? what about 5 k in audience? what difference does it make? don't you find that strange?
Ali sina has quite a bit of knowlege of islam yos- Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece (brother's daughter). "
A FAIR DEBATE huh? have you been in paltalk yos.
First of all yos nadir lost that debate because he never answered cps claim about animal sex- did you watch the clip yos??
kaimana1 wrote:Ozes wrote:Yos1994 wrote:Next you had on the list was David Wood who i showed above is a Liar. Here is a video he posted where he got arrested.
Yea... thats why the judge ordered to give him compensation
Not only that ozes- but it looks like david and company went there recently again this time with full police cooperation
Hello my dear kai.
According to the Christians yes. There is no concept of a Old or New testament in Islam. Jesus had the original Torah with him when it was corrupted around the Pharisees.
It is very clear in Arabic kai. I take it that your an arabic speaker?
If he worshiped Krisna im sure Solomon wouldnt have been happy Kai.
Dont see any indication there Kai.
The jewish view Kai.
Its Arabic Kai. Just like Dhul-Kifl for Ezekiel. Mahomet has no correspond with Muhammad.
Yet when Joseph Smith was shoting that he belive Muhammad (saw) was a true prophet he used the name Muhammad
And must i reminde you what your founding fathers called muslims? Here the treaty of tripoli to refreshen your memory kai.
As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries
More over the Je sound doesnt even exist in hebrew Kai.
in modern Hebrew the ג (Gimmel - third letter of the Hebrew alphabet) is used with an apostrophe to change it from G "as in Give" to J as in "Jay". This is a linguistic invention to allow transliteration from other languages
So Yeshua or Jesus makes no sence Kai.
Pleas Kai dont say mo.
Because of the Miraj and the Quran Kai.
.Paul contradicted Jesus
Thats your wishful thinking Kai. The concept of a son of god jesus is from the NT which is confronted in the Quran.
Prophet Muhammad (saw) himself said they are corrupted my dear Kai.
Narrated Ubaidullah: "Ibn 'Abbas said, "Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!" (S Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 461)"
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn 'Abbâs مصنف و مدقق مرحلة اولى
{ قُلْ يَـٰأَهْلَ ٱلْكِتَابِ لَسْتُمْ عَلَىٰ شَيْءٍ حَتَّىٰ تُقِيمُواْ ٱلتَّوْرَاةَ وَٱلإِنْجِيلَ وَمَآ أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُمْ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلَيَزِيدَنَّ كَثِيراً مِّنْهُمْ مَّآ أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ مِن رَّبِّكَ طُغْيَاناً وَكُفْراً فَلاَ تَأْسَ عَلَى ٱلْقَوْمِ ٱلْكَافِرِينَ }
(Say) O Muhammad: (O People of the Scripture!) i.e. the Jews and Christians. (You have naught) of the religion of Allah (till ye observe the Torah and the Gospel) until you truly believe in what is in the Torah and the Gospel (and that which was revealed unto thee (Muhammad) from your Lord) in all Scriptures given to all messengers. (That which is revealed unto you (Muhammad) from your Lord) the Qur'an (is certain to increase the contumacy) constancy in disbelief (and disbelief) and firmness in disbelief (of many of them) of their disbelievers. (But grieve not for the disbelieving folk) do not be saddened for their destruction in their state of disbelief, if they do not believe.
وَوَهَبْنَا لَهُ إِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَجَعَلْنَا فِي ذُرِّيَّتِهِ ٱلنُّبُوَّةَ وَٱلْكِتَابَ وَآتَيْنَاهُ أَجْرَهُ فِي ٱلدُّنْيَا وَإِنَّهُ فِي ٱلآخِرَةِ لَمِنَ ٱلصَّالِحِينَ }
And We gave him, after Ishmael, Isaac, and Jacob, after Isaac; and We ordained among his descendants prophethood, thus all prophets after Abraham are descended from him, and the Scripture, meaning, the [Holy] Books, the Torah, THE GOSPELS, the Psalms and the Criterion (al-furqān). And We gave him his reward in this world, which is fair praise [of him] by members of all the [Abrahamic] religions. And in the Hereafter he shall truly be among the righteous, for whom there shall be the highest degrees [of reward].
Jesus preached it. It doesnt mean it was written down Parts of it sure.
Not only didnt he fullfiel any of the original Messianic prophecies he even gave a false prophecy
Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Adam was indeed a prophet and so was Lot. However i dont want to mention how Lot is portrayed in the Tanach kai as you are aware.
I have his sexism and him giving Timothy a good time.
Also read this kai(im not providing this as proof)
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/02/nyreg ... -fury.html
Im confused kai can you explain to me. From what ive understood it Banu doesn mean ibnu is that your argument?
Waraqa was an Ebionite Kai. His Gospel(singular) is not the one in the NT.
The isnad with arabic is FAR more stronger but even the one you displayed says the same thing except he wrote the gospel in hebrew
Notice how they all say he became a christian??? Jews dont believe in gospel Ghaith.
[/quoteChristians dont belive in that Gospel either kai? Can you find me a Peshitta or an New Testament including The Gospel of the Nazarenes orThe Gospel of the Ebionites orThe Gospel of the Hebrews?
The gospel of the Hebrews and Nazarenes mentioned that jesus was baptized by john the Baptist. islam doesn't even recognize baptism. Nestorians were somewhat common in Arabia at that time they adhere to the peshitta. so prove that waraqa was NOT a nestorianCoptics still use Injeel today so im confused now Kai what you mean when was the word al bishara used?
That makes sense that the copts would use a word derived from the greek to use for the gospel. what I was saying was why not use the Arabic equivelant of the Aramaic ha bishara for the gospel?So the 30 gospels are 1? More over i bet i can make a 101 contradiction out of the 4 in the New Testament if i took the time so how are they 1?
You?? You mean shabir ally? well Christians made their 101 contradictions cleared up- anyways the thirty gospels have you seen them ? like the gospel of Thomas which says jesus was GOD in those words as well as many others. If I was a Trinitarian in those days I would have made sure those gospels were canonized. but they didn't mono.post it please. Also im a Ibn Abbas fan so i dont pay much attention to Ibn Kathir. But im sure Ibn Kathir had more sence than to say Bulus is a Prophet.
Really so you have become an ibn abbas fan?Its clear enough for me Kai.
If vague is clear then sureCompare him with Abdullah Smith and than say my Opinion.
Abdullah smith who got crushed about his jesus had female breasts article???? LOLCome on Kai give Osama a break
..Sam is just much of a liar. Just take a look at his translation of
"Do not hurt me regarding Aisha, as the Divine Inspirations do not come to me when I am in the [thowb] cloth (i.e. blanket) of any of wives except [in that of] Aisha." (Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 2393)
In his translation he has فِي ثَوْبِ as wearing clothes
Did you see the context of why sam was saying that? go back and look.Hahahaha.
Im not laughing
DEAD SERIOUSOmar bin al Khattab allowed Jews back to Jerusalem Kai.
So omar allowed those jews he kicked out of Arabia to go back to Jerusalem. HMMMMMNadir seems to know Sam real well Kai. Making such a lie would easily been refuted by Sam. Sam never refuted it from my understanding.
Nadir is like that with anyone he talks to. he is a very manipulative personality did you see him crop that video about the rationalizer saying Muhammad prophecied correctly?
LMAO I suggest you go to the jinn and tonic show and check out the unedited version.White is an Calvinist or should i say Reformed. He reject 1 john 5:7 isnt that enough to say he belives bible is corrupted? 1 interpolation is enough for me Kai.
Havent I explained this to you before? 1 john 5:7 was not in ANY original mss it was obviously a confusion of a footnote from Athanasius being mistaken as part of the verse.Kai christian lies isnt a fact. THe verse doesnt say anything that you portrayed and even snake handeling pastor take it as a test.
Those nuts are not mainstream Christians mono, not even marginal read the verses it says everything I portrayed. you don't put god to the test that is Christianity 101All those Isnads are from Iraq and most of them are from a 71year old guy who was reported to have a very very bad memory
No they are not mono- moiz amjad obviously knows nothing of hadith- there are numerous chains directly from Aisha through mecca and medina and Palestine even.thinging is very very surprising kai and thats why Sam is a filty liar. Just like the bible translators.
No it came from shia accusations of sunnis.Im confused you yourself said Yesu of the bible is that Wizard that lived 100years before Jesus if im not misrepresenting you(long time ago). So isnt William craig lying by your own criteria for Yesu?
HMMM NOWhere did Muhammad(saw) say the Kitab is from God?
from sarwars translation
and Believers, have faith in God and His Messenger, the Book which is revealed to him, and THE BIBLE which has been revealed before. Whoever refuses to believe in God, His angels, Books, Messengers and the Day of Judgment, has gone far away from the right path. S. 4:136
The bible is al kitab so mono I guess that sadistic monster god is going to burn you forever and ever for refusing to believe in ALL his books.No kai. No. Nasara are not muslims. Just like Bani Israel are not Jews.
In the Arabic sense they were mono yes. the sons of Israel included yehuud mono.Its a good theory kai. But Jesus himself isnt a historical figure and if i wasnt a muslim i would probly not belive he didnt exist so there are lacks Kai.
It mostly represents the month of ramadan. But im against symbolism my self.
Where did you get that i accept the swoon theory from?
Why not in the 30other gospels?
Ok kai. No doubt now that you are an Arabic speaker?
Yup. Ibn Hazm didnt think so to.
The original one didnt along many other books like 2 and 3 john i belive.
What are you on about Children of Israel where not Jew and the term Christian wasnt coined for the first followers.
Constantine was never even a christian. And Peter was a deciple not an Imam. More over by that logic Peter would have been a Yahoodi.
The romans where the once who mostly followed the Tunisian Tertullians new doctrine called Trinity when Athanasius and Constatine made it Orthodox. Can you prove to me that the Pharisees belived in the trinity ?
Why dont you go to a hindu or a sikh forum instead?
Wasnt Cyrus a messiah?
More over that verse is talking to Muhammad (saw9 about the people that lived BACK then.
Tafsir al-Jalalayn
You, O Muhammad (s), will truly find the most hostile of people to those who believe to be the Jews and the idolaters, of Mecca, because of the intensity of their disbelief, ignorance and utter preoccupation with following whims; and you will truly find the nearest of them in love to those who believe to be those who say 'Verily, we are Christians'; that, nearness of theirs in love to the believers is, because some of them are priests, scholars, and monks, devout worshippers, and because they are not disdainful, of following the truth, as the Jews and the Meccans are.
Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn 'Abbâs
Allah then showed their enmity towards the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions, saying: (Thou wilt find) O Muhammad (the most vehement of mankind in hostility) and most vile in speech (to those who believe) Muhammad and his Companions ((to be) the Jews) the Jews of the Banu Qurayzah, Banu'l-Nadir, Fadak and Khaybar (and the idolaters) and the most vehement in hostility to the believers among the idolaters are the idolaters of Mecca. (And thou wilt find the nearest of them in affection) in their bond and most lenient in speech (to those who believe) Muhammad and his Companions ((to be) those who say: Lo! We are Christians) the Negus and his followers who were 32 men; it is also said that they were 40 people in total: 32 from Abyssinia, and eight monks from Historic Syria: the monk Bahirah and his followers Abrahah, Ashraf, Idris, Tamim, Tammam, Durayd and Ayman. (That) affection (is because there are among them priests) ascetics whose heads are shaved in the middle (and monks) secluded in monasteries who are their men of knowledge, (and because they are not proud) in believing in Muhammad and the Qur'an.
We really need to start getting into context my dear kai.
These Yemeni Jews?
Is the Quran talking about Bani Israel or Bani Askenasi in that verse Kai?
Can you prove this Kai? NT is an unhistorical book of fiction. It also says Jews belived Messiah is the son of God
Did Jesus predict that Arabs would build tall buildings ?
would yes. I also become atheist if they find the missing link which we hahahah Not some hoax like Lucy to but acctual evidence.
Yeah than im devout to
That stuff is avrage not devout kai. Maybe in the 80s yes but Islam has gotten stronger since then No more topless parties in Iraq and Beirut isnt the "Paris of the Middle East" anymore.
Thats a lie Kai. Imam Awlaki was exposing them and he did nothing more than what you call freespeach
Book of revelation is a book paganism Kai. If you take a look at my signature you see what i mean. 616 would make perfect sence refering to Nero.
Ok kai you one legged eskimo.
Nothing is impossible for God. Even Trees can vote according to the Bible.
Dont you know what they found in Qumran cave 4 kai?
Sana manuscripts refutes you there my dear kai.
The same Ibn Ishaq that was kicked out of Medina for making up hadiths?
You you think Scam Shamoun could get an 5k audience?
Yes Kai i have and i hope you are there to sometimes. CP left before he got the mic.
Cp never answer Nadir question
Police cooperation. Police is asking for trouble, trying to evangelize people in a arab festival one cant exactly expect a warm welcome.
You think i would get a warm welcome from this christians Kai if i tried to preach Quran and revert them to Islam?
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Deewaar (The Wall) tells the story of the Vermas, who fall victim to societal evils. Vijay (Amitabh Bachchan) and Ravi (Shashi Kapoor) suffer through their childhood as their widowed mother (Nirupa Roy) works tirelessly to provide for them (with help from the former). The brothers achieve success in their respective professions -- Ravi is a policeman, and Vijay a smuggler with swagger and a calm about him that screams, at every point, of tremendous composure and leadership. (In fact, his abilities are so clearly overwhelming, the climax is unfair, to an extent.).
In their leadership, they certainly take after their late father Anand (Satyendra Kapoor), a workers' union leader. Both have their ladies, of course. Ravi has Leena (Neetu Singh in a minor role), and Vijay, Anita (Parveen Babi). Ravi's assignment asks to capture Vijay. Will he pursue the mission? Will he face resistance? At what cost? What will Maa think? Watch Deewaar to discover. It might just blow you away!
At the surface, it might sound like an ordinary script, but if there were ever an example of when extraordinary dialogue and their delivery elevated a film to unparalleled heights, this is it. The very obvious strength of Deewaar is its fantastic screenplay. Scene after scene with memorable dialogue after another ensure an exciting and engaging viewing experience. So when it's not the disrespectful subject of the Almighty...
...or the kid out in the street who demands respect,...
...it's the visionary worker at the port,...
...or matter-of-fact demeanor in a perilous moment (this is probably not true any longer; federal regulation in the U.S. pronounces illegal, in most cases, audio recording using surveillance equipment, but who knows if the video cameras in elevators (or 'lifts') are equipped with microphones?)...
...or perhaps the most often-quoted line from the film (the delivery of which makes me wish it were Amitabh saying it),...
...or the mother who knows her priorities and has a choice to make,...
...or a 'pure' item number in the form of a qawwali. The soundtrack (R. D. Burman) generally takes a welcome back seat through the film, with only three full conventional songs. The background score, though, is the real highlight. Now, item numbers with the lyrical quotient of Koi Mar Jaaye (click for video) I am all for!
...or the single woman in a profession looked down upon by society. Parveen Babi is fantastic here. I've said before that I often find myself at the crossroads between Zeenat Aman and her. (Thankfully, there's no deewaar between them!)
The pehli mulaqat (first meeting) scene with her and Amitabh oozes class and style. For one, there's this woman who is good with words. Then there's the fantastic I'm Falling in Love with a Stranger (hope you clicked on it above; this is apparently a rare sound clip, which I know is not included in the soundtrack) playing in the background. You can watch the scene at this YouTube link (apologies for not finding one with subtitles). It's no wonder the true hero of the film confides in her. And speaking of falling in love with strangers, if this is true, I've lost count on a daily basis, no matter the direction! At least here's potential validation of all the poetry with teer-e-nazar (weapons that are glances) ;)
Make no mistake, Amitabh owns the role of Vijay, and in so doing, owns the film. Forget that there are many relationships he tackles that his character is emotionally invested in. There's major controversy with each of God, society, his parents and sibling, his lady love, and his professional acquaintances. His portrayal of each is perfect. But through his fine, controlled performance to depict a surprisingly controlled character (for the most part), he almost ensures this is the closest we'll get to rooting for a character we know is on the wrong side of the law.
And let's chalk this up as one of the greatest scenes in the history of Indian cinema. Mr. Bachchan, at The Unforgettable Tour concert last year, had reperformed this, and I must say he did better than in the film, which must be easy for him after all these years. Watch the complete scene at this YouTube link.
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From among the rest of the cast, Nirupa Roy is most effective. She was one of the most influential filmy moms back in the day, and here's just another piece of evidence. Shashi Kapoor is, to me, the clear weak link here. Part of it might be that the rest are just so very good, but part of it sure seems to stem from him. The reasons behind at least two instances when he starts saying his dialogue before another actor finishes his (when there was interdependence in the dialogue) are left to the audience to figure out. He has the easier task to convince of his side of the story, but that he manages to not hold up his end of the court had me wishing Vinod Khanna was playing his role. That doesn't mean he was bad. It does mean that he could have been better when opposite that performance by Amitabh, which is not necessarily a fair ask for most actors. Do you agree/disagree?
I have little else to say about this remarkable film. Chances are you've seen it already. If you haven't, you must. It's a keeper in all respects. Hats off to Salim-Javed. And hats off to Amitabh, whose performance is legendary in every sense of the word. A well-deserved four and a half stars and then some for a classic!
Movie rating: 4.5/5 (Excellent!)
Music rating: 4/5 (Excellent!)
But only because of the fantastic background score!
My Classification: PG-13 (for violence, theme)
Official website: At this link at Yash Raj Films.
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I had to move The Last Lear (2007) up in my to-watch queue after Bollyviewer wrote about it. And I'm really glad I did. It's a fine film too (and mostly in English), one I'd definitely recommend. Again, it's Amitabh who takes command, in what is easily among his best performances of the decade (the best being in this film, of course :P). The delightful screenplay is a treat, as are excellent performances by Shefali Shah, Divya Dutta, Arjun Rampal, and Preity Zinta, that make it all very engaging. A definite highlight is the background score, which is brilliantly incorporated. It includes several classics from Hindi film, and my favorites from the lot included Jaane Woh Kaise from Pyaasa (1957)!
Amitabh defends Shakespeare's works like I would Ghalib's (or Aamir's :P), discussions on theatre v. film are beautiful, and there is fun, witty humor integrated within. Besides, I really, really missed my theatre instructor from middle school throughout, and I smiled through most of the film (probably even when I shouldn't have). What's more, her living room looked very much like this!
And to make this Deewaar-related, be on the lookout for dialogue carrying a similar essence as the following from the 1975 film, in a rather brilliant sequence involving Amitabh and Preity.
Some day, let's have a remake with Tabu playing a female version of Amitabh's character, and three guys talking of how their women demonize them ;)
Movie Rating: 4/5 (Excellent!)
Official website: theLastLearMovie.com
Please be sure to check out Bollyviewer's detailed review, with which I agree almost completely!
30 comments:
- BB said...
Deewaar is probably my favorite Big B movie EVER. I loooooove it!
- Sunday, April 12, 2009
- bollyviewer said...
Hey thanks for the plug, tBF!
I am not a fan of Big B, especially his older self, but I enjoyed his performance in The Last Lear. For Deewar though, I guess I am too far removed from the original audience in time and cinematic experiences to enjoy it at all. Or perhaps its something to do with the "classic" tag - I can never understand the appeal of any classic (except Sholay which I like perhaps because its never touted as a "good" movie but as a "great masala classic"). In the case of Deewar, what was perhaps novel and fresh in 1975 seems to my 2007 eyes like a big collection of cliches and "memorable" dialogues (the kind that has turned into the butt of several jokes). I missed the masala fun of other Salim-Javed outings, and there was just not enough realism to make up for it.
- Sunday, April 12, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Nae: It's got to be in his best of all time. He's acted in over 300 films, and given his exuberance in most films, that's saying a lot!
Bollyviewer: Thank *you* again for recommending The Last Lear! That's interesting about your experience with Deewaar, I almost want to say that's me and Sholay (but that's another story)!
I saw Deewaar for the first time in my adult life two weeks ago (I know, shame on me for the delay, but better late, right?), and was completely blown away. And what better way to disagree than with the most 'memorable' line of them all? To each his/her own. :)
- Sunday, April 12, 2009
- Crazy on Bollywood said...
Today's audience often wonders to see Amitabh Bachchan's esteem.He had neither a great physic nor a charming look and even one more important thing that he couldn't dance well like modern day's actor.In spite of those lacking, how can it be possible to hold the super stardom after 35 years.To know all these answer just go and rent Deewar.
- Monday, April 13, 2009
- Sujoy said...
Deewar is the Big B movie, the movie which defines the Angry Young Man image of Big B, and in a way, the movie which made B Big. It was iconic because of RD Burman's music, because of Salim Javed's dialogues and because of Nirupa Roy's immortal motherhood (onscreen of course). So looking forward to watch it all over again, and writing on it. Thanks for this lovely trip down memory lane.
- Monday, April 13, 2009
- dunkdaft said...
Well, to be true-I also haven't watched this !! [seen in bits, cause my bro is diehard fan of BigB] I am with bollyviewer on this. Of course, This is great example of filmmaking, and a pioneer of many 'the' of film industry. 'The Vijay' 'The Yashraj' 'The Salim Javed' 'The Dialogues' 'The Angry Young Man' and 'The AB-Shashi Pair'.
But still, i can't find something that's I am comfortable with, in a movie. I have avoided all Big B's older movies in which he potrays roles similar to this. Many movies followed nearly same storyline, after this. Also, I am not a fan of Bachchan, but still I am a huge fan of his two newer movies 'Hum' and 'Khuda Gawah'. Both by Mukul Anand, and that might be the reason. [and my childhood crush in later one, Sri :P] But Big B as I liked, was in those two movies. 'Larger than Life'. Also, later in some recent movies [to be specific, with his beard avatar] he is good. The Last Lear, looks so much promising. And hey, fun ref. to Lagaan overthere :D.
- Monday, April 13, 2009
- NidaMarie said...
Bollywood Fan, Great post-really enjoyed reading about these two incredible films.
I think "Deewar" is one of those instances where something is truly lost in translation. Though I'm sure many love this film that don't speak Hindi, I feel like I missed some of the greatness of the dialouges and scripts I've heard so many good things about by reading the subtitles alone. Also, I saw this a couple of months ago, and it was one of the first Amitabh/Shashi/masala films I'd seen, so perhaps a rewatch is in order. I was, however, blown away by Amitabh's famous scene in the temple, and his stylish first encounter with Parveen Babi's character. Loved her red lipstick and glam hair! Usually not a fan of English songs in Hindi films (they just seem so weak, for example in "Dostana" and "Billu Barber"), but this one really really worked here! I have to agree with you about Shashi, and also add that his romance with Neetu Singh was one I couldn't really warm to. Seemed like "filler" for me.
Getting back to Parveen Babi, I'm right where you are when it comes to her and Zeenat! When I see Parveen onscreen in a scene like this one, I lean towards her...But then I see Zeenat in, for example, "Roti Kapada Aur Makaaun" and I'm torn in the other direction!:)
As for "the Last Lear", it was a great film, but I was left a little unsatisfied when all was said and done. I don't know, I guess I need to rewatch that one, too. Thanks for reminding me!
- Monday, April 13, 2009
- Shweta Mehrotra Gahlawat said...
Totally have to see the Last Lear- so many movies, so little time I always say.
- Monday, April 13, 2009
- JJC said...
I quite liked the last lear though sometimes I thought it was a bit slow. Amitabh is always awesome but I prefer him from back in the day.. I'm a bit critical of him nowadays.
- Tuesday, April 14, 2009
- JJC said...
also, the men-bashing parts? loved it ;p
- Tuesday, April 14, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Crazy on Bollywood: Agreed! There's quite clearly no doubt in my mind at least, of why he's sustained for so long his status among the very best. It's because he's simply a fantastic actor. Deewaar showcases his skills quite well.
Sujoy: Thank you. Agreed on all counts. I really liked the background score much more than the songs. Hope you enjoy it all over again!
Darshit: You need to see this from start to finish! One does not have to be a fan of the actor to appreciate his acting, right? It's funny you mention 'Hum', because the initial scenes at the port in Deewaar reminded me of Amitabh in that film! I can't ever forget Sridevi in Khuda Gawah, that one song is just stuck in my head since ages, LOL. Hope you enjoy The Last Lear!
- Tuesday, April 14, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Nida: Thank you, and those are all interesting observations. As far as Amitabh-Shashi films go, this wouldn't be my favorite for the duo, but Amitabh is awesome here, and we agree on the filler bits.
Amitabh and Parveen Babi were great in Amar Akbar Anthony, as they are here. We also agree on English songs in general, and how cool it is to have one that works as it does here! I haven't seen Roti Kapda Aur Makaan, and shall hope to soon!
I didn't mind the way The Last Lear ended. Then again, the abstract doesn't bother me much at all, so that might be why :)
Shweta: Just knowing your taste...The Last Lear should be particularly interesting. I'd love to hear what you think!
JJC: It's not always easy to let Amitabh's off-screen persona not interfere with whether or not we like him overall (including in film) any longer. Having said that, I do agree about the speed of The Last Lear, which I didn't mind because the dialogue seemed to somewhat make up for it. LOL at 'the men-bashing parts', we need a male-centric remake!!! ;)
- Tuesday, April 14, 2009
- Bhargav Saikia said...
Nice write-up!
Deewar is such an iconic film, even looking at the poster that you've posted, gives me goose-pimples! I believe it'll forever stand out for Big B's acting and Salim-Javed's dialogues. These two writers were terrific during their times.
Have you seen the new Deewar?
I haven't watched The Last Lear..will get the DVD this weekend. Cheers!
- Wednesday, April 15, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
It's one for the ages, most certainly. I keep skipping through the scenes without Amitabh or Parveen, and it's always as powerful as it was the previous time. Big B in the 70s was something else. I think the closest any actor has come since to defining and dominating a decade, is Aamir in the 2000s.
I have seen the new Deewaar, but I remember very little of it, among other things that it wasn't that good :)
- Wednesday, April 15, 2009
Main aaj bhi faike huey paise nahin uthatha. :)
It is one of the greatest setups in Hindi cinema. When Ittifaq(sic?) throws that bundle of money in front of Amitabh, we as audience remember the childhood scene and wonder whether he has changed so much that he will just pick it up. :)
If a male doesn't get goosebumps when that scene unfolds, woh purush nahin, mahapurush hain. :)
- Friday, April 17, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
All good observations, and that scene was great. Lambi race ka ghoda! And no, mahapurushes are human enough to enjoy good acting! ROTFL.
- Friday, April 17, 2009
And this scene also shows why all those idiots (Anurag Kashyap, (sometimes) Ramu who decry the Yash Chopra school of film making are just jealous and insecure.
A lesser director would have put background music, zoom close-ups to Amitabh's face and all kind of crap to tell us, OMG! He has thrown money in front of Vijay!
Yash underplayed it beautifully, making you wonder, do THEY remember. :) :)
- Saturday, April 18, 2009
i think the closest any actor has come since to defining and dominating a decade, is Aamir in the 2000s.That is a wonderful point. The true great heroes define the kind of films a period is remembered for, rather than "adapting" to the existing trend.
Be it the troika in the 50s, Shammi with his "animal" antics, Amitabh or Aamir. :) Rajesh Khanna and now SRK in all honesty seems to be a continuation of the Shammi Kapoor antics - only younger and hand-somer and (for Rajesh) with more social drama.
Maybe that is the reason, Khanna's shelf life was so short. :)
- Saturday, April 18, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Hi Sunil. I agree on the approach to that scene you mention, it was beautifully executed. I rather like the films Yash Chopra has directed (versus produced), although in Veer Zaara, that song toward the end (in the courtroom) was painful!
Anurag and Ramu seem to present a very different approach, and while I'm not their biggest fan, I certainly appreciate that they've added some value, if only through one film in 15 years! :)
And I really like your point about the shelf life of an actor. Just like in any business...innovation will ensure longevity, and sticking to the same business model without adapting to the customer base will not be the answer to long-term success, right?
- Sunday, April 19, 2009
- Sanket Vyas said...
A movie that I consider one of the few 'perfect films' meaning not a single piece of dialogue or scene goes wasted or doesn't move the story forward. Swept the Filmfare Awards the year of release winning every major award and was the first time I saw a couple smoking after sex in an Indian movie. Shashi got stuck with the less complicated role and therefore it's easy to overlook his contribution but what he did was strong. But Amitabh absolutely OWNED this movie in every sense of the word.
We got together this weekend and watched the madness that is 'The Great Gambler' and had the Zeenat/Parveen debate - pretty equally split but my vote is with Parveen any day ;)
- Monday, April 20, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Thanks for your visit, Sanket! It's most certainly difficult to dispute your view of the dialogue, which I agree is just outstanding. Haven't seen The Great Gambler, but I now know I must. (I have your other recommendation -- Shakti -- and am looking forward to seeing it!) And I couldn't pick a side in the Zeenat-Parveen debate, they're so...amazing! :)
- Monday, April 20, 2009
- Punjabi Folk Singers said...
Deewaar is such a brilliant film. My girlfriend tells me that I talk about it at least once every week. Great review and great caps. When my dad started introducing me to the cinema of his youth, it was Sholay and Deewaar that got me hooked. Great films. Have you seen Aandhi? That was another big one from 75.
- Thursday, April 23, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Hi Ramneek, and thank you for stopping by. We have similar experiences with parents introducing us to the cinema of the era. A couple of weekends ago, I saw Sholay with my dad, and I have a feeling it means to him what Lagaan means to me (I don't have a better analogy, LOL). Haven't seen Aandhi, but will definitely make note, thank you!
- Friday, April 24, 2009
- Punjabi Folk Singers said...
Hey man, you don't have to thank me for visiting the site. I should be thanking you for discussing these films. I actually don't hold Lagaan so close to my heart. The summer of 2001 (when I was 16) belongs to Dil Chahta Hai. Aandhi is actually based on Indira Gandhi's life and was made by Gulzar.
- Saturday, April 25, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Long live the Bollyblogosphere!
I really, really enjoyed Dil Chahta Hai. The summer of 2001 was quite remarkable! (I was in my sophomore year in college.) I like Lagaan a whole lot more overall because I think it's just more complete and perfect in almost all respects. And Aandhi sounds like a movie I would really like!
- Saturday, April 25, 2009
- Punjabi Folk Singers said...
Hey man, sorry for the late reply. I understand where you're coming from when it concerns Lagaan. It might be the better film, but I think Dil Chahta Hai was somewhat of a zeitgeist. In Canada, the youth were sick of Hindi films and Farhan Akhtar changed that with his contemporary view in Dil Chahta Hai. In my opinion, that film revolutionized Hindi cinema. Javed Akhtar's "Hum Hain Naye Andaaz Kyon Ho Puraana" defines that moment. It made Hindi films progress. The Akhtars are so bloody talented. I just saw Luck By Chance 2 days ago. It's well worth your time if you haven't seen it already.
- Wednesday, May 06, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Hi there, and thank you for stopping by Ramneek. I know exactly what you mean, and I sense that among members of my family who were born and brought up in the U.S. as well. Dil Chahta Hai made films 'hip', and yes, it did signal an advancement for Hindi films, especially those that are serialized. I liked Rock On and Luck By Chance as well. Heck, I kinda liked Don with SRK too! :)
Lagaan set an equally important trend of incorporating sound production values all round, to the point that they became the norm after it. They're both great in their own right! :)
- Wednesday, May 06, 2009
- Pankaj said...
When all barriers were broken between the movie goer and the movie; It was a tru connection; Deewar is Bachchan all the way. The walk, the talk, the look, the dialogue delivery. It is a classic!
You are right about the temple shot, his dialogue in the unforgettable tour was a much better version of the original.
You got to do a review of Agneepath ! Agneepath! Agneepath!
- Tuesday, June 23, 2009
- theBollywoodFan said...
Certainly agree on Deewaar, and I'm glad to not be the only one who thought so of that great scene at the temple -- excellent to begin with, but taken to another level after the countless takes he must've done at concerts, for example. I'll hope to discuss Agneepath some day, yes. Anything starring Neelam works! ;)
- Tuesday, June 23, 2009
- Anupam said...
This is probably the best film of Big B..It was a watershed event...very high on emotions and everyone has played their parts really well..the simmering eyes with anger---Amitabh just rocks when he bash up the goons in godown..and one of the best ever scene is..when he turns towards Marine drive and remembers his childhood when they were poor in front of Iftakhar saheb..my eyes turn moist when I repeatedly watch that scene..this is must watch film for every new generation.
- Wednesday, July 20, 2011


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I'm off work tonite due to a last minute schedule change. Am I tired? Of course! I slept all day after I got home from work this morning so I'm good, I could always use extra sleep though! So I'm unexpectedly off from work, the family is asleep, and I am locked in my music room spinning CDs…..
Cloudscape – Global Drama (2008): What a great album this is! Cloudscape is high quality Power/Progressive Metal, akin to Balance Of Power. GLOBAL DRAMA came out last Tuesday officially but I have been enjoying the disc for a few weeks now. Review this week!
Biloxi – III -In The Wake Of The Storm (2007): Another album I've been enjoying a lot lately and it's a top candidate of my year end list of albums I missed in 2007. Founding vocalist/guitarist Clyde Holly sadly passed away during the recording process so he only sings on 2 songs and contributes guitars to 5. Mark Allen Lanoue has filled in very well in place of Clyde and the band pays tribute to him by creating some good melodic Hard Rock.
Iced Earth – The Crucible Of Man (Something Wicked Pt. 2) (2008): This doesn't come out for two more weeks but let me tell you this…..it's awesome! Bringing Matt Barlow back to the band is probably the smartest thing Jon Schaffer has done since the original SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES in 1998. Another solid release for 2008!
Iced Earth – Framing Armageddon (Something Wicked Pt. 1) (2007): I've been a big Iced Earth fan since BURNT OFFERINGS (1995) but I just didn't get into the Tim 'Ripper' Owens era of the band. I thought that THE GLORIOUS BURDEN (2004) was boring and I didn't get into this album until the end of last year. It made my list of the Top 15 Albums Of 2007, coming in at lucky #13! I figured I'd give it a fresh listen.
Metal Church – This Present Wasteland (2008): Another album that doesn't come out until the end of September. I will be reviewing this one soon so I'm not giving much away right now.
Grim Reaper – See You In Hell (1984): I had to put a classic in there with all the new releases! I haven't given this a listen in a long time and I needed a NWOBHM fix. I remember being a kid in '84 and getting a poster of the album cover from a metal mag, I had that poster on my wall until I moved out of my mom's house…..14 years!


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