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Mandatory evacuations are in effect for some Southern California foothill communities as a powerful winter storm that will bring rain, snow, gusty winds and the threat of flooding and mudslides continued to slam the region Friday.
Most of the region is under a flash flood advisory Friday morning as significant rainfall began in West Hollywood, Pasadena, Burbank, Altadena, and Studio City late Thursday night. Rain arrived throughout Southern California early Friday morning with flooded streets reported across a widespread area -- the result of what the National Weather Service described as the "largest rain event" in Southern California since March 2011.
"This is a powerful storm, something we haven't seen in several years here in Southern California," NBC4 meteorologist Crystal Egger said.
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About one inch of rain fell in downtown Los Angeles by Thursday morning as the result of the first storm. Some of the most significant overnight rainfall totals were reported northwest of Los Angeles in Santa Barbara and Ventura counties.
In San Bernardino County east of Los Angeles, flooding and rockslides were reported in some hillside area. Specially trained swift-water rescue teams were deployed in the Lytle Creek area, where past storms have led to floods and fire-rescue responses.
"Lytle Creek is notorious," said Chis Prater, of the San Bernardino County Fire Department. "There's a creek that runs through town. Not only the creek, but the roads have been notorious for flooding."
The second storm is expected to be much stronger than the first, with heavier rain anticipated Friday and Saturday. Rain is expected through Sunday.
"We anticipate a number of impacts including flooding, mud and debris flows, heavy mountain snow, high winds, dangerous surf and possible tornadoes," Egger said.
Mandatory evacuations are in effect for more than 1,000 homes in the San Gabriel Valley foothill communities of Glendora and Azusa to protect residents from possible mudslides and debris flow, as January's Colby Fire left the steep mountain slopes bare. The area was under a flood watch early Friday.
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A nine-mile stretch of the Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu was closed overnight Friday. The California Highway Patrol implemented the closure -- extended to noon -- because of anticipated rock and mudslides as a result of last year's Spring Fire.
A spokeswoman for CHP told NBC4 damage from the fire was so severe, officials "expect the mountain to come down."
The National Weather Service issued a flood advisory for Ventura County until 6 a.m. According to the NWS, minor flooding is likely in and below the recent burn areas. A coastal flood advisory is in effect for Los Angeles County through noon Saturday, according the NWS website.
Strong winds and heavy snow is expected in the San Bernardino and Riverside County Mountains Friday evening through Saturday night. Snow levels are expected to drop from around 10,000 feet Friday morning to 6,000 feet by Saturday, according to the NWS.


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3 things I wish I learned a lot earlier that help me stress less
Categories: Balancing Act, Parenting & Family, Your life
My kiddo is eight years old (OMG, my kiddo is EIGHT YEARS OLD!!!) and you'd think by this point I'd have this working mom routine down cold, right? No such thing, as it turns out — with every stage there are new challenges, new discoveries, new awesome moments, and yes, new things I learn that I wish someone got through my stubborn head earlier.
Here are three recent discoveries which are helping make my crazy busy life a little less so:
- Ask your kids for help. OK, so this advice is hard to take if your kiddo is still a baby, but I think it definitely applies to toddlers and older. Here is one example of what I mean: Cooking. I cook a lot and it's one of the household chores that takes a bunch of my time. I used to do all the cooking at night, after my daughter went to sleep (a few times a week, so that there would be fresh dinner for next day or two). I tried to optimize the time with her for stuff like reading or playing or doing some art together. Recently I've started to get her involved in the cooking and it's a life changer on so many levels. She actually has fun and is learning about food and cooking, which I think is really important longer term. I get a helper and a companion (she is getting pretty good at peeling carrots!) We do something together and create something together, which is awesome. And I don't need to stay up til all hours at night cooking. Serious win-win and I highly recommend that you find something in your busy life your kids could help you with.
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The Orb are an English electronic music group known for spawning the genre of ambient house. Founded in 1988 by Alex Paterson and KLF member Jimmy Cauty, The Orb began as ambient and dub DJs in London. Its early performances were inspired by ambient and electronic artists of the 1970s and 1980s, most notably Brian Eno and Kraftwerk. Because of its trippy sound, the Orb developed a cult following among clubbers "coming down" from drug-induced highs. The Orb has maintained its drug-related and science fiction themes despite personnel changes, including the departure of Cauty and other Orb members Kris Weston, Andy Falconer, Simon Phillips, and Andy Hughes. Paterson has been the only permanent member, continuing to work as the Orb with the Swiss-German producer Thomas Fehlmann and, later, with Killing Joke's Martin "Youth" Glover and Tim Bran of Dreadzone.
Alex Paterson prides the Orb on manipulating obscure samples beyond recognition on its albums and during its concerts; his unauthorised use of other artists' works has led to disputes with musicians, most notably with Rickie Lee Jones. During its live shows of the 1990s, the Orb performed using digital audio tape machines optimised for live mixing and sampling before switching to laptops and digital media. Despite changes in performance method, the Orb maintained its colourful light shows and psychedelic imagery in concert. These visually intensive performances prompted critics to compare the group to Pink Floyd.


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Milwaukee-area stores offer Cyber Monday deals
Retail experts are expecting a record number of people to shop online during Cyber Monday.
From sports teams to clothing, WISN 12 News reporter Hillary Mintz found local businesses looking to cash in.
It's a prime time for sales Milwaukee-based Laacke and Joys. As temperatures dip, the need for warm gear rises.
"There are no rules. We try to be creative," said Beth Handle of Laacke and Joys.
So they took part in Black Friday deals, Small Business Saturday and now Cyber Monday.
"We got involved in Cyber Monday because we are a local retailer. There are a lot of big box stores that we definitely compete against, so we're competing with them because we have a local base and we have a local customer," Handle said.
Their Monday deal also allowed shoppers to use Cyber Monday deals in store.
At Boston Store, they were driving shoppers to online-only sales.
"Some stuff is more than 50 percent off," said Christine Hojnacki of Boston Store.
They've been participating in the retail promotion for the past few years, and said it pays off for them and customers.
"So this really gives them a great opportunity to get deals, and we try to make it worth people's while to go online,' Hojnacki said.
For Bucks fans, they've actually combined Black Friday deals with Cyber Monday, meaning fans can get tickets for upcoming games for up to 45 percent off.
If you missed standing outside in the cold at Kohl's on Black Friday, it's extending Cyber Monday deals all week.
It's the same for WisconsinMade.com.
With an estimated $1.5 billion of sales on Cyber Monday, businesses hope this shopping spree is here to stay.
Most Cyber Monday deals WISN 12 News found last until midnight.


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The devil's in the details, they say. And nowhere is that more true that with the addition of what could be considered the most innocuous performance-enhancing part out there, a K&N Filter. It's hard to tell by just looking at your cold air kit or filter element, but there's a whole lot of technology, research and development and execution infused in each and every unit.
The worn and tired adage that "your engine is big air pump" is never more applicable than here. K&N pours more time and effort in getting your engine the most oxygen it can process while keeping it clean and safe than all its detractors, mimics and doppelgangers.
It's More Than Just a Familiar Name
Undoubtedly, K&N is a big – if not the biggest – name in the reusable cotton gauze air filter industry. Be it producing private-labeled filters for production cars, trucks, and motorcycles or offering their immediately recognizable easy-breathing kits for your ride over parts counters across the planet, K&N is as recognizable as Snap-On Tools and Mobil Oil.
Inside its massive Riverside, California complex, K&N produces 100-percent of its product in house with 550 people dedicated to its main production line working two shifts five days a week.
This aggressive work schedule allows for K&N to fulfill its massive workload. The multi-building facility is not only comprised of a central assembly, shipping, and office, but is also flanked by a special projects/prototype facility, a comprehensive engine dynometer and speed shop, research and development department with its own set of auto chassis and motorcycle dynos, an autoclave for carbon fiber molding, and two metal shops.
This family-owned business started over 40 years ago is a worldwide juggernaut with satellite offices in both the UK and the Netherlands. We took a tour of K&N's monstrous complex with K&N's Tim Martin and were impressed with what we saw.
Prototypes and Pleaters
Martin explained, "Before any filter is manufactured en masse, it goes through the wringer of testing and development." These testing prototypes are manufactured in low-rate production looms dubbed "Pleaters."
Manufactured completely in-house by the K&N machine shop, K&N's pleater machines automatically weave either four or six-ply cotton filters, pressing them together and crimping the one of over 500 different pleat and ply style combinations.
"These machines are capable of ranging the pleat height from 3/8-inch to 1 1/2-inch," Martin continued. Best of all, thanks to K&N's wire meshing, no glue is ever used in bonding the multi-ply gauze filters. Since the pleaters are used in such low volume, they are also used to create custom and/or unique applications.
Inside of its limited-run building, K&N also manufactures its large truck and machinery filters. These can stand up to 4-feet in height and are designed specifically for heavy machinery like one would find at a construction yard. As each filter's performance varies in part to its intended application, K&N combines its use of materials and database of testing results to engineer a filter that will best fit the engine's requirements for optimal performance.
In The Big House
Inside of K&N's central building is the heart of the company's production, manufacturing, and shipping as well as its management, marketing, and business offices and its fully-staffed call center which fields over 100,000 calls a year.
Adjacent to a machine shop filled with rows of a dozen CNC machines autonomously dolling out custom CAD-engineered billet pieces for one-off applications and bits and pieces for more of its many machines resides K&N's filter assembly network of conveyors, pneumatic air lines and plumbing pumping the two part chemical compound to each of the assembly stations.
Part of the logic in not gluing the multi-ply cotton gauze together – apart from ensuring the best ventilation – is using K&N's injection molding process to bond all the layers together. Each of the numerous filter assembly stations employ a heated table base where the cotton filter is fixed before a two-part polyurethane compound is injection molded into the jig.
Since K&N has upwards to 1,500 different sizes and designs, many of the 15 "carousel" assembly stations have been either solely dedicated to assembly K&N's more "higher demand" filters or have been engineered to allow for multiple configurations. "The two-part polyurethane typically cures within minutes of being applied," Martin showed us. For filters with larger bases or a secondary cap, they are oven-cured for 15-to-20 minutes.
Once cured, each filter is then relocated to the oiling station. The filter is automatically sprayed with the iconic red-hued filter oil, then sealed, packaged and labeled. The system is so efficient that upwards to 30 air intake kits can be assembled at a time.
Once complete, each unit is sent to the giant "Pick Module." A three-story building within the central K&N complex, the Pick Module is a massive automated storage and sorting network that looks like the baggage conveyor system at a major airport.
Developed and constructed by K&N Filters, the edifice regularly operates at a comfortable 75-to-80-percent capacity, manned by seven different kinds of operators. As an order comes in, the product (stored in one of over a thousand big blue bins), which has been assigned a number and stored on an assigned rack, is pulled from its place, confirmed, and forwarded – via a belt-driven conveyor system – to the shipping floor of the Pick Module.
There, it is marked, crated and shipped via one of the dozen shipping docks at the back of the building. Almost a massive mechanical digestive system, the Pick Module is a flurry of activity at nearly all times.
Extracurricular Activities
There's a lot more than just air filters coming out of K&N's compound. In the shadow of the massive central building sit a sequence of smaller, specialized shops which house possibly some of the coolest best-held secrets of K&N Filters. Apart from housing a selection of race cars from a variety of different modes of competition, the K&N Race Shop also has a fully-functional engine dyno.
Used primarily as a source of top tier high performance air flow testing on a selection of different powerplants, Martin showed us around the engine dynometer room, which is unique in that it employs a ISO 1511 machine which meticulously regulates the incoming air's temperature, humidity, and particulate count, providing the K&N engineers a gauge on their filter's restriction versus filtration. Striking that balance, K&N uses these tactics to measure particulate levels to the nth degree with their "calibrated, engineered dirt."
Next door is K&N's carbon fiber molding building. Center to this is a giant autoclave. Used for optimal molding, the vacuum process removes any air bubbles from the curing process, leaving flawlessly smooth carbon fiber surfaces. While K&N doesn't market a lot of its carbon fiber components, many are found on professional racers' cars, like Pro Stock hood scoops, air scoops, and end plates.
"While the major part of K&N's success stems from its air filtration product line, K&N also supplies OE manufacturers and aftermarket companies with a great deal of private-labeled parts including mandrel-bent exhaust systems and cold air intakes, as well as offering its own in-house powder coating services," Martin continued.
Inside K&N's metal shop and machine shop buildings, fabricators crank out over 15,000 different parts a week as CNC and mandrel benders noisily twist and reshape aluminum tubing for complete or cat-back exhaust systems.
A few hundred feet away, a trio of K&N's chassis dynos sit on the other side of a swinging door to the trial test and product development garage. Here, engineers get their hands on new or unique cars and design – by hand – how a cold air kit would best fit the engine bay. Here, rough discolored kits are pieced together like Erector sets before a refined prototype tube is fabricated. In fact, most of all of K&N's cold air kits start in this very room.
On The Way Out
While K&N didn't want to reveal all of its secrets, they were amazingly forthcoming with peeling back the curtain and letting us see how possibly the most underrated performance part on our cars are made. The forty-year-old company that traces its humble roots back to off-road desert racing is now one of the world's most prestigious aftermarket entities, even sending off a single shipping container to Europe every week. But it's not just the quantity that makes K&N's name synonymous with added performance, but its willingness to put that very name on each product's lifetime guarantee, and that level of commitment is rare these days.


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Replay – TimeSplitters 2
This week we take a look at Free Radical Design's TimeSplitter's 2, which boasts many former Rare employees that worked on games like GoldenEye 007 on the N64 among its developers. We were amazed at just how many similarities there are between this goofy game and everyone's favorite N64 FPS when we popped in the PS2 version.
This week it's Andrew Reiner, Dan Ryckert, intern Mike Mahardy, and myself checking out TimeSplitters 2. This episode also marks the departure of Mike, who will be missed (until we forget about him). Stick around to see Reiner put his old-school gaming skills to the test in the second segment.
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This article is part of a transcript of a presentation delivered at the XVIII International AIDS Conference in Vienna, Austria. The original session took place on July 21, 2010. Jump to the table of contents to see other articles in the series.
In Lithuania, a small country with a relatively low and heavily male HIV prevalence rate, issues affecting HIV-positive women get little attention. This is evidenced by the fact that there is only one HIV-knowledgeable gynecologist in the country -- to say nothing of the stigma these women face, being predominantly either drug users or the partner of a drug user. "We must come to the basics, and we must start to rethink the whole system," says HIV-positive mother and activist Anna Zakowicz.
I have been talking about IDUs [injection drug users], pregnancy planning, and sexual rights of women who use drugs and who are HIV positive. And actually, I'm a drug user, and I'm an HIV-positive person. I also work with an organization that is based in Lithuania, which is called Demetra.
If we look at the epidemic in Lithuania: Lithuania is a country with a population of 3.5 million. When we look at the HIV prevalence in Lithuania, it's quite small. It's around 1,500 people. As you can see, it's mostly men who inject drugs. And it's a small percentage, actually, of women, though you can see a tiny rise.
If we look at the women, they are either drug users, or they are partners of drug users. Sometimes they engage in sex work.
A research was done, called "Vulnerability Assessment of People Living With HIV in Lithuania," that was led by Mykolas Romeris University; and it was supported by UNODC. [The research involved] qualitative interviews, interviewing HIV-positive men and HIV-positive women about their vulnerability. And a few girls that were interviewed were also pregnant, and gave birth to children. So I would like to give you two examples.v
This is a quote from one interview: "It was during childbirth here, and they started to shout at me that ... how could I not look after myself, and that I was using drugs while pregnant. ... I explained that I could not stop using them because they did not let me in the AIDS Center. [We do have methadone maintenance therapy.] They just instructed me to reduce the dose so that the child would not have convulsions once born. ... How can one do that? They started to shout because of the operation room, that the operation room would have to be disinfected now. 'We have not had similar cases before.' They treated me in a very rude way ..."
And the other quote is: "There was a noise. She opened the door and started to shout, 'This is not your first childbirth? How can you give birth to children with such test results? Infected with HIV!' And so loud. ... And I'm asking the doctor, 'Why are you shouting? There is a queue waiting outside the door.' And she [said], 'Why shouldn't I shout? What are you thinking, giving birth to sick children?' That's what it was like."
On the basis of these two examples, we can see that, generally, in the whole population, people do not talk about sexuality in a positive way. And when we think about drug users, and when we think about sex workers -- their rights for sexual pleasure, and their rights for having children -- this is even a bigger problem. ...
When I look at Lithuania, I think that we must come to the basics, and we must start to rethink the whole system. And it also works well for women who would like to have children. That's why I gave the examples here.
I think what we lack is a safe and supportive environment for women who are positive, and who use drugs, and who want to get pregnant. We also need more people who will treat people who are HIV positive and, among them, women. We need more gynecologists, because we have only one, with limited time -- only a few hours per week.
There is no one to talk to women, about how they could take care of themselves. There is a need to educate young doctors; and also, either to have hospital wards, or have well-educated doctors in infectious diseases clinics. And we need to work on empowerment, to reduce stigma.
We also need counseling, at the NGO [nongovernmental organization] level. We have only one NGO that works with women who are HIV positive, which is based only in the capital. So it's also a problem, to reach the women who live in other cities.
We need self-support groups. I myself tried to set up a self-support group. And we've been running the self-support group for some time. But it's very few women who come up, who want to talk about their HIV status, about their sexuality. So this is also an obstacle.
We need community involvement in planning of the services, so we need to be engaged in the planning at the governmental level. And then we need to be involved in the development of the services, and also assessing the services. We need quality information about HIV and reproduction, and pregnancy.
As we see from the other presenters: There is a wealth of experience. We can learn from very good examples. In Lithuania, we can use it, and we should use it. We should teach our gynecologists about assisted reproduction techniques.
Political commitment: I put it as the last point, but I think this is the key issue, because with it comes the money that we lack -- and the desire to change the situation.
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A Discovery of Witches was sitting in a display stand on the library desk when I dropped off some books so I snagged it. I love historical tales about witches and Deborah Harkness is a professor of history so I settled in for a good long read. I came close to giving up about a quarter of the way in because the witchcraft was pretty thin, the heartthrobs were pretty thick and the male lead turned out almost immediately to be a vampire. Twilight for grown-ups. No thanks. Muttering through the original had been bad enough.
But I persisted because I have to read one book a day and I'd already had this running start. And it got better—but only a little. There is plenty of history sprinkled throughout the text and any one of the threads would be fascinating to unravel but what dominates in this book is the love story. I am so not a fan of interspecies vampire love stories. Puh-leez, what is the romance about a classic abusive boyfriend set-up in which the besotted undead wouldn't dream of harming his lady love—except for this teeny little problem he has with his appetites and his teeth?
OK, maybe not fair. Romance aficionados will find this a rich romp through a lot of material that never strays too far from the love story and the travails of the passionate but chaste couple and the somewhat heavy-handed argument for mixed species marriage. The heroine, Diana Bishop, is a scholar spending the summer in Oxford doing historical research at the Bodleian Library. She is also an uncommonly powerful witch who, due to the trauma of her parents' untimely deaths when she was seven, refuses to use or even acknowledge her powers. When she stumbles across an ancient alchemical text that seems to be alive with mysterious spells, she triggers a witch hunt with herself at the center of it.
Diana runs a lot along the paths at Oxford and she goes rowing in the river solo at odd hours in foggy, deserted landscapes. Very tough cookie in the first half of the novel. Encounters sequential near-death experiences throughout most of the second half when she and the handsome, wealthy, accomplished, urbane, oenophile, ice-cold vampire, who stalks and then seduces her, take on the fearsome and murderous bigots of the magical world.
Matthew Clairmont, charming and cultivated uber-carnivore, has been a kind of very bright Forest Gump throughout most of Western European history and owns the tchotchkes from famous figures to prove it. His taste is exquisite and his fortune formidable. He is a distinguished Oxford fellow and a medical researcher of some renown who attends a weekly yoga class at his country estate that has all the groovy vibes of California, although the yogis are daemons and vampires.
All the creatures—there seem to be few actual humans in this story—have hypersensitive olfactory capabilities and spend a fair amount of time sniffing, describing various scents and explaining how that relays valuable information to them about enemies, threats and love interests. Many of the non-human cast want to get their hands on the mystery book, which has vanished as inexplicably as it appeared.
I read the whole novel. It wasn't bad. I would rather have been reading a thriller with a good historical subplot that was less a hodge-podge of vampire-witchy heavy breathing salted with historical factoids. But, if you like romances that exist for their own sake and enjoy an encyclopedic knowledge of history as a bonus, go for it. If you're a witch, you'd probably prefer Brunonia Barry's The Lace Reader—funny, wacky, creepy, full of contemporary Salem witches and not a vampire in sight.
A Discovery of Witches: A Novel Deborah Harkness | Viking 2011


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91177info – A PAGE FROM YOUTUBE – ALTN – ALUMINUM/BARIUM – ANDERS – DISCOVERY?
Don't forget my other pages, links and comments are one click away at the top right of the page…
The chemtrail petition has the necessary signatures to get a response from the government. 600 so far but if anyone would like a personal email detailing what our government is doing or is aware of please see the top link.
the report states that the BEST DISPERSAL HEIGHT IS 80,000 FEET. Only U2s and X15s fly up there, and all they can carry is cameras and electronics. That altitude is TWICE AS HIGH as the CEILINGS of modern aircraft and is IMPOSSIBLE TO REACH WITH ANY TYPE OF TANKER. That's why they conclude that SEEDING OCEAN CLOUDS and FEEDING IRON TO OCEAN CENTRES are the only routes immediately viable. They haven't done those either, unfortunately. It makes RUBBISH out of your video post, doesn't it?
Yes they do seed clouds. There are private companies that do as such and videos of companies cloud seeding on youtube. I am very happy with my video as it has added to the pool of information which thousands of researches are finding out and adding to themselves. Some information may be speculative, some may be far fetched but I believe I was the first to find these documents of the UK government actually suggesting adding chemicals to aviation fuel and making it available on youtube.
You are proposing something, on the other hand, which you REALLY know nothing about. It therefore seems "reasonable" to you to behave the way you do. Any scientist or engineer who reads what you write will shake their head. Where were you when brains were handed out? You can't even find the relevant research materials, which are freely available on the net. You also appear unable to read. If DEFRA claims it would be difficult to do, then they haven't done it. You don't appear to notice that.
Yes I know I haven't been able to give as much attention to the subject of chemtrails and find the necessary documents. I was distracted by the swine flu last year and the so called deadly pandemic we were supposed to be in. Which turned out to be a false alarm and a way for our governments to syphon off tax payers money. They lied it was a false alarm. This vid is 10 months old so maybe I should return to investigate chemtrails. After the petition at 10 Downing St which ends in March.
Truly infantile. "Look, a plane is flying overhead and there are some rocks on the ground shaped like the letter C. It's a clue! Proof for chemtrails!". You'll never be taken seriously by anyone with critical faculties who can weigh evidence. You'll just continue to talk amongst your buddies with the same psychological disposition about your escapist fantasies and waste the time of your other friends, pestering us with the latest "proof" for your delusions. Yes, I actually read the document.
You're the one who is delusional. In fact, looking through your comments for the last six months – You're a total fruitcake. You are also a liar and I hate liars. Now which document did you think you read? hmm?
@91177info, Stephen Salter made a submission to this committee – this:
You'll find it on my channel and also at jazzroc. wordpress. com on my "Jet Spray" page because it's a brilliant and cheap idea. Yes, I actually read the document. many times, many places. All this stuff is just the consideration of options, many of which are dead ducks. You lack the nous to make any sensible discrimination whatsoever. Scientific understanding, if you ever found it, might help you…
There is no government legalisation and private companies can virtually spray what they want up there as it been reported on MSM. So really you don't have a clue what is being sprayed. Of course you would say it is just water vapour. You started your comment thread very defensive/protective and rude. You think all is well and no damage is being caused to us or our earth, fine. That's your instinct. Mine says something is not right and there are millions of other people who feel the same.
@91177info, I actually C&P'd someone else's comment which exactly suited this. I'm not talking about INSTINCT. I'm talking about EXPERIENCE. I KNOW there is nothing in the trails and I can PROVE there is nothing in the trails. You can neither KNOW or PROVE anything. Aviation fuel is made up to a recipe by the admixture of conditioners to a locally-made petroleum distillate, so it will be subtly different wherever the plane refuels. But there's only one type of jetfuel and it's for ALL planes.
beachcomber2008, Obviously you didn't read the entire 163 pages…I can tell by what you are saying. Pull it up again and READ it this time…..then come back and debate with us.
Isn't it quite the coincidence that Mars has quite an abundance of sulphate. Perhaps those tubes we have seen on Mars are them harvesting minerals. Great video.
Chemtrails also (amongst other chemicals) contain barium. The EPA states dose factors under 2 parts per billion is safe from harm. Rainwater collected after chemspraying has been found to have up to 6 parts per billion. Jet fuel sometimes referred to as JP-5 or JP-8 is regulated by the Department of Commerce. Good luck getting a hold of them. When no1 gives us an answer or we're completely ignored on a subject we can only believe its something we'd not take well. Then again I'd ignore any scrambled answer they'd "come up with" at this point. Two good reasons. Vitamin D kills the flu virus. And the spray contains chemicals to help the viral envelope fuse with lung cells for easier infection.
Well done for blocking that muppet. Good info here.
Contrails, Climate Changing Clouds of Combustion spewed by 8mile high Oil burning "Smogliners" whose exhaust products acts as the nucleus for the formation of ice crystals that are Contrails ,that persist spread to form Contrail-Cirrus a days heat trapping ( as clouds tend to do) thermal blanket of exhaust cloud. This is Geo-engineering. Contrails. Climate Changing Clouds of Combustion. FairyChemTales a Big Oil spray story to cloud the Environmental Disaster of Vast Oil Burning.
Chemtrails day & night in UK the sun rarely shows and when it does they are back to cover it. EVIL GOVERNMENTS.
Help heal the planet, google 'orgonite'. It's a simple compound anyone can create in their backyard with fairly inexpensive, widely-available materials which balances ambient energy by turning the negative energy into positive energy, with many easily-confirmed effects. Orgonite does this continuously, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, without electricity.
Truely infantile. "Look, a plane is flying overhead and there are some rocks on the ground shaped like the letter C. It's a clue! Proof for chemtrails!". You'll never be taken seriously by anyone with critical faculties who can weigh evidence. You'll just continue to talk amongst your buddies with the same psychological disposition about your escapist fantasies and waste the time of your other friends, pestering us with the latest "proof" for your delusions. Yes, I actually read the document.
gtb393 ??? Joined April 24 2007 Channel Views 0 No Favourites No Uploads Comments 0 Channel Comments 0 Now I really do not need to ask what drew you to my vid do I?? All your appearance has done is reaffirm to the thousands of subscribers that:
A: There really is something going on.
B: You're a SHILL.
C: You're EVIL
D: You are not welcome here
E: You're now on my BLOCKED list
now we can go to every official government agencies and present the document and ask for explanation…
Great find, mate. thanks for share it with the rest of us here. Jazzroc – where are you now, you old fool and lier?
BocScar is either working for the CDC or Baxter. He has several accounts jazzroc and stars15k, he has been paid to do this. He/She is using an avatar which is used by the CDC and is listed in the pdf documents that Jane Burgermeister sent me. See my website link on my profile for more info. There are other shills which have been paid to do this. But BocScar is classic and very persistent. You just have to read through the comments to see what I mean. Love to those that want it. Jason x
hey the weather up here has been weird so far, the whole month of june has been rain, i think its a new record here in this area lol.
I have a few shills as well youtube is crawling with them trying to confuse chemtrails with contrails LOL There is no argument we're not stupid I was looking for stuff today and googled reports in the UK AND FOUND ONE AT GLOBAL RESEARCH UK
Try this site all the evidence is here in photos/maps and graphs. asp bnl gov/ Just replace the space with an . I will get back to this but the swindle flu is the main headlines lol
I never heard of jazzroc and stars15 is a 40 yr old woman. You'll need to work harder to pass the detectives exam.
Now why on earth would you come back to this video and reply to a new comment thread which wasn't in reply to one of yours? I have been waiting for this test for 2 weeks and actually I have just passed my detective exam because you fell for my trap. BocScar you are a shill, your icon is one used in Baxter International labs which can be seen in Jane Burgermeister's file charges. Goodbye.
Well, dickhead, since you are from england, you HAVE to love moslems. they have taken over your bloody country. Yes, I like guns, that is one of our freedoms here in the US. And I do like women. That would obviously offend a faggot like you. blow it out your windpipe, abdul.
Actually, what you say you like doing to women tells me it is actually YOU that has faggot tendencies! Another moron that uses the same username throughout the web and his email address. You paranoid racist anal loving moron.
I am very sorry to use the terminology that graverobber35 has used. They are not words I use and I only used them in context to what he was saying to me.
Sorry , I lost my tin foil hat in the flood.
You lost a lot more than that. Your nothing more than a muslim hating gun loving womanising thug. This user said that: "mohammed was a child molester" on hardyk1's channel. By the way always make sure the barrel of your gun isn't blocked, not being psychic or anything 😉
Did you even bother to read the conclusion? "It is clear from the assessment of geo-engineering options presented here that there are large uncertainties regarding the effectiveness, impacts, technical feasibility, cost and risks of all the schemes considered. As a consequence of these uncertainties, we feel that it is premature at this stage to draw firm conclusions on the feasibility of implementing the schemes discussed". They don't even know if geoengineering is possible!
Bother? I'm well bothered. They are getting private companies to do this. They are? testing it out now! Trying different chemicals and mixtures. With out consulting or warning the public. Why? Because we are expendable and our lives and heath doesn't matter. It really makes me angry. I mean really fucking angry.
Did you read the report's conclusion? They say that they don't know if geoengineering is even possible. If they admit in the report that geoengineering might not even be possible, how can you use the report as proof that "chemtrails are real and I believe are happening now with out public consultation."
Because they are lying, thieving, murdering bastards. They killed over a million Iraqi civilians on this plagiarised dossier: Downing Street's dossier against Iraq's weapons of mass destruction is accused of plagiarism. Channel Four News has learnt that the bulk of an intelligence dossier heralded by Colin Powell at the UN yesterday, was copied from three different articles – one written by a graduate student". BocScar, Do you really think they will tell us the truth after the above quotes?
-Because they are lying, thieving, murdering bastards.- I'm talking of the DE & CC document referenced in the video. On the one hand you accept this document when it speaks of stratospheric aerosols, but on the other hand you reject it when it states that geoengineering might not even be possible. So is the DE&CC document true or a lie?
What do you think I think?
I'm not sure what you think. I'm not sure. You seem to agree with the parts of the DECC document that fit your preconceived notions, and disagree with the parts that don't. You use this government document to "prove" they are conducting geoengineering, but ignore the part where it says that geoengineering might not be possible. I'm asking for clarification.
Going back a couple of months, people like Stars15k, o0Nighthawk0o, Shilltastic and possibly you were stating there was no evidence of such programs and chemtrails were just water vapour. Nothing was and could be sprayed in the skies. This is a government document which states such programs and is inviting private research companies to share their research and knowledge. These programs are happening right now. Stop moving the goal posts. Chemtrails are real.
-These programs are happening right now.- So according to you the government is publicly inviting research companies and publishing feasibility studies on the Internet while at the same time secretly spraying the sky in full daylight, hoping nobody will notice. The DECC document offers possible quick fix solutions to mitigate global warming and then it cautions that these solutions are dangerous and might not even be feasible.
Private companies are spraying yes. So at last you acknowledge chemtrails. Thankyou.
What are private companies spraying in the air?
You tell me. You're paid to do this "argumentum ad hominem"
You are the one that claims private companies are spraying. I assume you know what you are talking about. So please tell me, what private companies are spraying? I really want to know.
Hold on let me look in the yellow pages.
So, I take it you don't know. You claim private companies are conducting secret spraying operations but can't even name one of them. How can you conclude that private companies are involved? On what are you basing your statement that private companies are involved?
We live in a Corporate world, they're all Private companies. Even you are a corporation.
What's your point?
Just looking for human qualities.. U failed.
This isn't a philosophical discussion about human nature. The guy made a concrete statement that private companies are spraying the air. If he knows these companies are private then he must also know their names.
If you could just stop beating your bishop for a moment and look at the reply I have sent you.
Stating that the scientific community is researching solutions to our environmental mess is not acknowledging "chemtrails". The word "chemtrail" implies covert programs to dumb down the population or block out the sun by deliberately using chemicals. I do not acknowledge "chemtrails" and I've tried to point out that neither does the DECC document.
Chemical Contrails then. Spraying or releasing chemicals via aerosol or the exhaust of aircraft fuel. They are doing exactly what it says on the tin. It is interesting you say "dumb down"?? That is very telling BocScar. I've been talking about Global Dimming.
I'll ask you again. What are private companies spraying in the air?
Page 26 of the pdf states "if other parties, countries and institutions wished to develop a shared approach, DECC would be interested in sharing expertise, and in helping to develop an initial detailed scoping study". Google these: ukca ac uk – GLOMAP – SLIMCAT/TOMCAT – CiTTyCAT – EU Aerosol IP – AEROCOM emissions/validation – EUSAAR data
They are looking to partner with the private sector to "develop an initial scoping study". initial… study… How do you conclude from that statement that private companies are currently engaged in a global dimming campaign? These are either feasibility studies, environmental studies and one of them only tries to set research protocols for data base sharing… but never mind… Which one of those companies is currently engaged in a covert global dimming campaign?
WOW BocScar how do "YOU" know about these sites and give an answer so quickly? Can you do me a favour here? Please swear on your families life, the generations of your family which are now in the spirit world and ALL the genetic strain of your family in the future that YOU, are not involved in any way with chemtrails, chemical contrails, the military, and the government. And you are just some regular youtube user. So I BocScar swear (You fill in the rest here)
You told me about the sites… so I looked at them. These people can loosely be characterized as atmospheric researchers. I swear I am not in the service of any government or any secret society to misinform anyone about anything nor am I involved directly or indirectly in perpetrating illegal covert chemical campaigns against the atmosphere or the population. LOL Look… you make statements like "private companies are spraying", "chemtrails are real". I'm asking you to explain yourself because I don't see it. Every time one asks for some kind of evidence you guys point to publicly available government documents produced by the same government you claim is secretly conducting the spraying. You claim the DECC document proves "chemtrails" but ignore its conclusion that geoengineering is not advisable and may not even be feasible.
Thankyou for swearing BocScar. All I know is what I see and what I have researched. I am an artist by trade and I paint landscapes. I love to draw clouds. I am always looking at clouds ever since I was 4 years old and my mum pointed out a face in the cloud. From then on I have always looked up at clouds and I have made faces out of what I see. Back in February during a landscape photography assignment I became aware of the chemtrails, white lines. That is when the spraying started in my area. I am a very aware person, I follow the seasons and live with nature. I love sunsets and follow the moon. I know where it will be rising with a given tree in my area. I count the swallows that come and nest here and count the new brood that leaves. I have a photographic memory and have over 200 art and photography books and know which picture is in which books. I don't like change. BocScar, I know what contrails are. The white lines now in the sky are not normal, they really aren't right.
Without a doubt, increased contrail formation has an environmental impact. I just challenge the notion that it is a covert government operation to block the sun or kill people. Contrails are a consequence of air travel, just like smog is a consequence of car usage. I'm just a regular guy and I have never seen any evidence of weather modification other than cloud seeding. I don't consider atmospheric research to be geoengineering nor do I consider persistent contrails to be "chemtrails". I've read the DECC document and it's a preliminary assessment paper that concludes there are large uncertainties regarding the effectiveness, impacts, technical feasibility, cost and risks of geoengineering.
BocScar. Well said. You must be aware these sad simple believers and their voodoo video Priests of Piffle havent the faintest idea of the Planet they are on or how it works. But they do share a genuine concern for what they see outside above them. And so they and you should. A Jet exhaust made 6-8mile high layer of reflective day heat trapping cloud, Contrail-Cirrus, is a Climate Changing Cloud of Combustion. A Global unintended Geo-engineering Environmental Disaster.
Just google "Downing St dossier plagiarised". They lied, they have committed murder. Something is NOT right here. Me thinks they will do it again.
me too, Bocscar, if hes not being paid by this industry, is totally mind wiped on all of these issues about weather modification, save your energy, Bocscar is insincere and just soapboxs for attention, good or bad. He knows it's real he spends everyday trying to talk "WITNESS'" down from what thy've seen. But he has no argument at all, he just flames through disjointed arguments, a waste of time dewd
He was convincing, but easy to put right. Thanks for that info.
-if hes not being paid by this industry, is totally mind wiped – Once again the you demonstrate your ability to come to conclusions without facts. The same logic leads you to believe "they" are secretly modifying the weather in full daylight and nobody but astute YouTube videographers are clever enough to notice.
Chemtrails are obvious to children now. They have to say something now. You rather them disclose it's part of bio weapons and psych warfare Haarp EMF weapons? Climate control is a cover story. Now run out and push this disinfo to your neighboors so they pay carbon taxes and believe Al Gore's scam.
Thank you for this very informative video. Chemtrail particles are now beginning to be included in Science books and being taught in high schools. Some Science books are referring to it as 'PARTICLE AIR". See Centerpoint Learning Science 1 Essential Interactions Science Book Section 5:19 Solutions for Global Warming. Peace.
Here's and interesting patent: Powder contrail generation United States Patent 3899144 abstract: Light scattering pigment powder particles, surface treated to minimize inparticle cohesive forces, are dispensed from a jet mill deagglomerator as separate single particles to produce a powder contrail having maximum visibility or radiation scattering ability for a given weight material.
Of coarse you realize that these are the same quacks who are intentionally poisoniong our children with vaccines and makeing males of every species sterile with plastics. And now we are letting them tinker with the only planet we have!
It actually reads that like they are already doing this and are wondering whether or not doing it on Global level will work…
don't want to be the 'bad guy' here, but all this document is saying what they have 'researched' to be possible solutions to their made-up crisis. It's certainly no proof of them admitting they are doing the chemtrails currently.
very well put together congrads. Geoff
Excellent work. Thank you!
great research! yep obama announced in jan or feb this year that they may 'have-to' fill the sky with aluminium particles to deflect the sun. theyve backed off here for four days now (touch-wood) after several weeks of constant disbursal. I am curious as to why they have been so busy over populated areas, a bit sus in light of the foreseen risk to public health.
-after several weeks of constant disbursal.- Disbursal? I someone handing out money? What exactly do you believe they are dispersing?
Anything they want, under the guise of global warming. Modern medicine is all about nano particles and aerosol dispersion.
Modern medicine is the only reason we are not being killed by Smallpox like the 500 million that died from it in the 20th century. Nutrition and modern medicine is why our lifespans have doubled. If "they" have a plan to kill us then better food and medicines are a very strange way to go about it.
GMO is not a better form of food.. Have you ever watched the commericals for medicine. HA I would rather have whatever it is then all the side effects. Also almost all of them say on rare occasion death may occure. The meds for depression, & ADD, MAKE you a zombie/ makes you want to kill your self or someone else. AND they have cures for many things that DON'T involve MMM BUT they would rather keep taking the money. BTW Check out Denver international airport Video, and the stonehenge one also.
Ya right! You would rather have the disease then suffer possible side affects of the medication. Tell yourself that the next time you need Penicillin or if you ever get cancer.
Very interesting avatar BocScar, can I ask where you got it from?
Google images. I think I typed the keyword "symbols". I've always found the image geometrically interesting.
Penicillin is a natural antibiotic. Another things I also stated was that they have cures USING natural things to cure such diseases or illness.. They to have the CURE for cancer and diabates…I CAN'T SPELL sue me if anything is wrong.. LOL.. For things such as RLS, Sleeping or non sleeping issues or if my minds run in circles do to ADD. NO I WILL not take what they have made. They have moved AWAY from the things nature gives us & that is scary.
If Penicillin is a natural derivative or not is irrelevant to my comment. You said you would prefer to suffer the disease than possible side affects from the treatment. Good for you. I don't care if you can't spell or express yourself any more than I care if you refuse to take prescribed medication.
I will take medicine if it is Natural that is what I'm saying.. if you don't care why did you come back an waste time typing. Anyways,,, CHEMtrails are real… Good luck with seeing that.. Peace to you
Bla bla bla… If you ever get cancer, you will take anything that will save your life, whether it's "natural" or not.
All this time and you come back BLA BLA BLA you don't know me.. If I ever develop cancer.. I WILL FIGHT each and every doctor and/or Organization for the REAL cure that they have hidden from Humanity… TRUST THAT… Cancer HAS A CURE…
Weed oil, laetrile (B17), MMS, lots of things.
Without inflamations, you CAN'T? get cancer. Thought you'd like to know.
If the earth is allowed to do its natural thing. Extra sun and heat/radiation will evaporate MORE water from the oceans, so creating more natural cloud cover, then natural rain. They don't want that, they only want death to tell you the truth. They are not in harmony with the earth just their ego sociopathic conversations at the dinner table.
someones getting money to fly around in no particular route to disburse particulated dust that effect the weather. To 'disburse' means to 'spread out" it isnt a term money specific. What they are disbursing is currently under investigation and double blind back testing is now being performed in several reputable universities to determine exactly whats in the air in the disbursal areas. I told u b4 Its not an issue of belief why do you debunkers always fall back on the same emotive arguments?
-double blind back testing is now being performed in several reputable universities – Links please. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that nowhere in any of these studies will they mention "chemtrails" or "secret government dimming operations". These are probably typical environmental studies but you guys use them as evidence that someone is looking into your paranoid claims.
You know for a fact that they are spraying but you don't know what they are spraying. OK. Let's start with this: How do you know they are deliberately spraying chemicals?
What gets me when I point out/complain about this to others is that they tell me–there couldn't possibly be a deliberate poisoning agenda, because they would be poisoning their own children/families. Don't know what to say back.
great research! there are similar documents" not as specific" on the CFR website under the title"geo-engineering" where obamas team had recently updated the site to include planetary engineering techniques! but this blows that away! awesome work! is there a link to the original document! would love to see and spread to all!!!!
In the description…
You know what might shut down this operation? A pilots strike. Anytime you board an aircraft or are within air shot of an airliner pilot, you should educate them about chemtrails being aluminum and pathogens and neither being healthy for people. If enough pilots knew that they were killing their own sons and daughters with their flying spraying aluminum, maybe they'd strike. Airport protests also sounds like a good idea.
I just heard the second person from NC who is a patriot claim contrails ALWAYS looked the way chemtrails do. Shows how successfully the media (with the subliminals and chemtrail backgrounds) have conditioned people to believe it's always been like this and is normal. The f*ckin media suceeded. Check out ironhorse's vid on clipser. Arrgh
Patriot? More likely traitor and on the pay roll of the disinformational establishment. I stopped a random state senator on the street outside the statehouse and asked if he noticed the chemtrails pointing at the sky. He asked me why they're spraying. I told him the global warming excuse AND that it's aluminum and pathogens and more likely REALLY to murder people. He seemed genuinely interested and mildly aware, like he had noticed. People pretending they don't see it are most likely traitors.
the real downside being that the generation "y" who are present in abundance online, havnt experienced alot of unmanipulated weather in their life. Born after 85′ and these young adults have nothing to rate the appearance of the sky against. Therefore theyre quite unconcerned with 'them' making clouds… easily fooled by the bogus 'disinf' websites that abound online. theyve been blinded. our hope is with the older generations who can remember.
This is the format of a decent video – loaded with information. Thankyou.
Yes, they do appear to spray more at night. Hands up who's noticed the thick fog we often get overnight in the season they call 'summer'?
dude, since february this year i've been seeing them. it's warm where i live plus i camp a lot, so since february i've seen an incremental increase in chemtrailing.
Hey my dear and intelligent friends! I truly hope that none of you are fooled by their attempts to say they are trying to prevent climate change and its quickening pace! Mankind may be 1% at fault, but It's not us alone AT ALL, causing the Globe to warm, its Solar Cycles, over 30000 scientists have proven this and know it, as millions of others do! The elite know they can't reverse it, they? know many prophetic events will occur before Global Warming's effects even reach a height! God Bless all!
Yes GODLOVESUSSOMUCH, you are right. ALL of the planets are warming – even the uninhabited ones – which proves without doubt that this is a 'natural' occurrance. Don't people ever think back to their school days? THEY taught us that climate change has occurred in the past and that mankind survived it – even without paying carbon tax! LOL to the carbon tax! Thanks for continuing this truthful point, that any sane person can and will see, sadly many intelligent people hold on to what some corrupted or misinformed scientists, have stated as true science, when its not! Keep spreading the good truth bro, even that which is not sugar coated, just as God did not sugar coat the times we are in & nearing. There are troubles ahead, yet an eternally happy ending for those that seek the path of love & truth found in Christ! God Bless!
First Chemtrails is no solution for global warming. Global warming is about done anyhow. We're running out of oil to pollute the skys with and the north pole already melted into the oceans which has a chilling effect that has been studied and shown to cause ICE AGE in an average 3 years. Ice Age is the new problem. 2nd, it's not about whether people will survive, of course we will. But its a matter of what living conditions we'll experience and it's not looking good at all.
Very true I made a video about this 2 weeks ago. There are so many different reasons for why the spraying is happening and over night they could decide to spray something totally different. People are getting used to seeing white lines in the sky so if they decided to suddenly spray Agent US or Brucella people wouldn't even know or question, they would say "That plane is low today" As the elite are safely underground.
Yooo MR 77info! That's the truth of this sick matter right there, they don't care and even though they are not at all ashamed of their evil agenda, they definitely do much more spraying at night, to secure that their plans will not be headed or stopped like history has shown their plans to be, and they will again…They don't learn, at least that which is important! Also so true how they try to make these trails seem so casual, putting them in tv media advertisements, even games and movies! =)
wow, the american media has hit a new low. no wonder there are so many stupid people who believe in chem trails, with the american population trusting everything the media throws in front of them it is no wonder that people believe in chem trails.
Chemtrails are well documented tainted airplane exhaust comtrails saturating and obliterating our skies with deadly toxins. Soda pop is an out dated term for carbonated sugar water. Why are there so many hateful naysayers trying to obscure discussion and critical research into these matters? Hmmm…
No, why are you SO STUPID as to believe that:
1. Contrails CAN'T be persistent.
2. Their contents can be collected by trays on the ground, and NOTHING else will get in the trays.
3. That the US can AFFORD to cover the Earth in Barium, Aluminum, Silver.
4. That it is POISONING you (yet NO-ONE has died).
5. That passenger planes CAN be fitted with poison sprays, yet no-one DIES, "FINGERS", GETS INFECTED.
"Chemtrails" ARE SODA POP. Put them through a carbon filter for sure, and each mile of "chemtrail" will get you a crate of soda pop.
The stratosphere is stable and layered like an onion with layers of differing humidities. A "saturated" layer will NOT reabsorb the trail, which will slowly fall and form stratus or cirrus cloud. That is what you see…
Want some soda pop? I'm nuts for soda pop! Are you?
Yo Jazzroc–when they do go live with the mass extermination and you're dying from Ebola, enjoy that soda (you probably like the stuff that has Aspartame in it). Meanwhile, a global network of responsible citizens is forming to confront this menace.
"Responsible citizens" are people who THINK before they ACT. In your case, you've a job ahead of you – to LEARN to THINK. I'd rather that people like you were supporting the NWO – you'd mess them right up!
1) We need an comprehensive global ban on these practices.
2) There needs to be an international inspection regime over all aircraft worldwide with criminal penalties for the existence of aerosol dispersal devices.
3) National security exclusions to FOIA requests need to be abrogated and immediate worldwide disclosure of these practices documented.
Document redaction should be criminalized.
Jolly good. Best use the UN for this. Haha. But apparently (so the scuttlebutt goes!) the UN is PART of the conspiracy to, er, depopulate…
Best draw up a World Citizens' Army then. Then fly about from airport to airport enforcing…
Those that don't can get their videocams out and film you "spraying" as you go, and SHOOT you when you land…
'You're quoting a research report.'
Correct. From 1992. Spraying operations began by most people's accounts, in late 1998.
Keep in mind, this report was authorized by Congress and sponsored by the National Academy of Sciences. This report concludes that this technique of aerial spraying is the most cost effective and efficient method (of the varius options mentioned) for increasing planetary albedo in response to a "global warming" scenario.
Senior researchers, faculty, theoreticians, atmospheric scientists, department heads and CEO's from a multitude of prestigious institutions took part in this report.
The Smithsonian, Harvard, General Motors, Cambridge, MIT, Yale, World Resources Institute, National Center for Atmospheric Research, the Secretary General of the United Nations, Oxford, Brookings Institution, Columbia University, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Carnegie-Mellon University, Princeton University, Brown University, Lawrence Livermore Laboratory, and there's more, if you look.
'It's the title, isn't it? Filming a harmless event with the false implication of harm can cause needless distress and foment discord, even if you believe you're saving the world…'
I'd like you to start a journey of discovery, that is, if you are willing. Since we agree that even if it's water up there, and nothing harmful at all… you will now begin to see the darker side of the science of geoengineering.
Google this US patent: US5003186
Notice the patent holder? Hughes Aircraft (now Raytheon) is one of the US's largest defense contractors in the area of Aerospace.
Read what's in the mix, my friend…
'2. The method of claim wherein said material comprises one or more of the oxides of metals.'
'…aluminum oxide'
'…thorium oxide'
'…Welsbach materials'
You read up on Welsbach materials. That's your homework assignment.
A method is disclosed for reducing atmospheric warming due to the greenhouse effect resulting from a greenhouse gases layer. The method comprises the step of seeding the greenhouse gas layer with a quantity of tiny particles of materials characterized by wavelength-dependent emissivity or reflectivity, in that said materials have high emissivities in the visible and far infrared wavelength regions and low emissivity in the near infrared wavelength region. Such materials can include the class of materials known as Welsbach materials. The oxides of metal, e.g., aluminum oxide, are also suitable for the purpose. The greenhouse gases layer typically extends between about seven and thirteen kilometers above the earth's surface. The seeding of the stratosphere occurs within this layer. The particles suspended in the stratosphere as a result of the seeding provide a mechanism for converting the blackbody radiation emitted by the earth at near infrared wavelengths into radiation in the visible and far infrared wavelength so that this heat energy may be reradiated out into space, thereby reducing the global warming due to the greenhouse effect.
Very interesting. I have a few questions:
Do commercial turbofan engine injectors safely pass these refractory solids between 10 and 100 microns?
How do filamentary materials figure in all this?
Or biological materials?
You realise that a single "coating" (1 particle/sq.cm) for the US weighs 170,000 tonnes? and you'd have to renew it?
Well, 170,000 tonnes is within any major paint manfr's brief I suppose. But DELIVERY would be HARD.
And treating the globe would be outside our capabilities.
The Aluminum-Barium argument is rendered obsolete by the YouTube clip below
Why squander fuel, occlude your skies, and poison your population, when this CHEAPER AND MORE PRACTICAL operation can be carried out in the South Atlantic and Pacific?
The clip is one of FIVE WAYS TO COOL THE EARTH – a googlevid.
The price of space mirrors and artificial trees is FAR too high, rocketed sulfur FAR too risky, only this idea and ocean phytoplankton feeding make sound practical and economic sense, can be begun TODAY, and carried out in WEEKS.
Co-opting living creatures is a million times MORE EFFECTIVE than employing technology.
I DON'T believe what any government says, ever. If it said "It's a fine day", I'd run out and check BOTH front AND back. And THEN I'd REMAIN NERVOUS
What SO pisses me off is that FAR TOO FEW PEOPLE think PROPERLY
Do you realise HOW WEAK a people is when it doesn't have sufficient scientific understanding? When it CANNOT follow a LOGICAL train of thought?
When it lacks the basic life-skills to SURVIVE technological collapse?
CT supporters are HARDENED in their weakness. They FEAR science, which is in truth their ONLY salvation. They don't know how to farm, make clothes, make things, make provisions – they barely know how to cook. If the NWO WERE to "depopulate" them, they'd murder each other at the doors of empty supermarkets
There are MANY ironies. Earlier govt attempts to protect people from germ warfare are NOW construed as "practice" attempts at depopulation.
SMALL experiments of geo-engineering are NOW considered PROOF of of govt attempts to reduce immunity. The list goes on and on….
If there is to be a conflagration (and 2012 seems about right to me!) then I REALLY DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED. I DO NOT WANT TO BE KILLED IN SOME GADARENE STAMPEDE!
Maybe human "civilisations" CANNOT LAST. It is ANOTHER IRONY, it seems to me, that once we lived in continual fear of NUCLEAR SPASM (THE BANG!) and now it seems it's going to be SOCIO-ECONOMIC COLLAPSE (THE WHIMPER!) brought about, in part, by the CHEMTRAIL PARANOIA. The rest, and greater part, of course, seems to be the moral collapse of the US govt.
EVERY PILLAR of the "chemtrail" hypothesis proves on examination to be UTTERLY FALSE. It is based on BAD SCIENCE and LOOSE ASSOCIATION. It is a complete and utter CHIMAERA – a tragic waste of time – only distinguishable from WARFARE by its LACK OF DEATHS.
But it has PLENTY OF VICTIMS, and PLENTY MORE TO COME…
"911-martial-fourth planned coup-1934-1963-1972-Executive O 11647-11731-1973-Failed-passed -Trilateral Com-1974-Obama-three weeks"
Great stuff. Means bugger-all when "chemtrails" turn out to be plain old contrails and you turn out to be bottom of your class in atmospheric physics. How long have you spent in this totally useless activity? Just think how much of your life you would save if you went to school. Just think of the good things you could have been doing instead.
Sure it just so happens. Why should I believe you when all you do is spread hatred. Only you will be on here 24/7 next week and thereafter unless you change your account name again. The vulgar way you speak to others in these chat rooms I hope I never have to see you in the hospital or call your hotline
I spend a total of 2 hours a day ridiculing those who continue sick fear mongering practices. It's just so happened that I have a week off from work. How about you? I am employed, I work 2 jobs to support my family.
1. I am an Emergency 911 operator and
2. Bio/chemical technician.
Those with the alleged IQ are being very stupid about this time unless they wake up before the next 911, martial law, a fourth planned military coup. Three planned military coups were attempted in our history as evidenced by congressional investigation in 1934, one in 1960 -1963 and that scum named Nixon planned one from 1969 to 1972, as evidenced by Executive Order 11647 and 11731 in 1972 to 1973. Failed but passed on to the Trilateral Commission in 1974. Obama completed this plan three weeks ago.
Science is made up by the money and control by the Masons, CFR, and Rockefeller foundation money. Try again with your fantasies. History is proven to be fabricated, science goes out to the Agenda set by the emerging world order. 300 microbiologists were murdered around the year 2000 to 2002….the names are available. You best wake up before our next civil war and martial law does.
@frick….I spend no hours, I know they are real. Factual Documented Scientific information….lol….:)) Oh, like the age of the universe, or the we now came from fish or better yet, Global warming? Please, I'll read Wizard of Oz another Illuminati production for fun. 🙂
How many hours in a day do you spend ridiculing others and spreading your lies? 24/7. You're on all the pages doing the same thing. Gosh you sure do spend a lot of time 24/7 on pages that you know are just hoopla. You must be part of the 22% of unemployed Americans. You've got too much time on your hands or your getting paid by Cass Sunstein and his COINTELPRO agency.
Expanding chemtrails can be seen daily now in my town. This is not even physically possible but it happens daily. Look up!
lol great comment moneymail002. 'your overlords' – My overlords are your overlords according to your belief system. If such overlords exist they're in power and you are just a simple taxpayer just like the rest of us. lol So why would you think you've gained freedom from them? How many hours in a day do you spend convincing yourself that chemtrails are real? I wish you spent and equal number of hours reading factual documented scientific information and used some constructive critical thinking as well. Perhaps you would discover that the world isn't such a scary place after all.
Why do people sit there and say their government IS doing this or that? All of your "proof" is based on unproven assumptions and has no validity whatsoever; it originates in this RELIGION that says the government and scientists are some sort of entirely separate social tier concerned mainly with the destruction of the rest of society. Yet for some reason you seem shocked when people with an IQ and an understanding of science above those of the average monkey refuse to believe your crap.
cointelpro? Goodness, did it ever cross your mind that perhaps these people who are commenting in regards to the propaganda TrutherD1 is spreading, are simply stating hard scientific facts to disperse the multitude of crap built up around stupid conspiracy theories?
The conspiracy is true. The crap is made up of those lying about a conspiracy theory…there is no theory. It is fact. Most all of the events today and in the past are part of this unified conspiracy. The evidence is irrefutable. If you want I can send you the references, thumbnail list, of 8 pages and a chronology that is supported by scholarily research that covers over 140 pages+ a summary. bring it on.
I know your "list". It is pseudoscience. Your "evidence" isn't refutable because it isn't evidence. 8 pages of pseudoscience only has value as COMPOST. ALL your miserable "work" has been through contrailscience. com and jazzroc. wordpress, com and been torn to shreds. Such shreds are plant food. Are you a plant? Do you photosynthesize? You certainly don't THINK.
lol….you types are all alike. You actually think that your useless diatribe is effective. There isn't a history or economic professor that could refute the truth. They can lie, and then go to the CFR bank as they are prostitutes for the eiltes like Ayn Rand was. You just might have a point. Its easier for you people to lie and deny since you apparently have no soul. The truth however won't be denied in due time. There is nothing you can do about that.
Oh, your overlords are getting ready to pull something. They just don't know that they are signing their own death warrant.
Yeah. It's been tough here in Tenerife. My God, man, it RAINED here last night! I had to pick my way round the puddles as I walked down the town with my dear little dog to buy some bread and ham for my breakfast. Then when I returned to my desk I discovered I was in "communication" (apparently) with a blind and stupid egocentric arsehole blowing out compost, and believing it to be "truth". SCIENCE refutes your miserable and pathetic lies with ease. "History" "Economics"? LOL
Well said beachcomber2008.
YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS: ULTIMATE PROOF OF CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING! watch?v=MRUqogeAgHo watch?v=VLA0yejkeYM watch?v=qSDkdOpjiSc&feature=re lated
NASA = Admit Zero! We are not idiots, we are a collective, we are oneness, we are 11:11 we are awakened giants.
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ffs… Nut cases from A to Z…
Why do people sit there and say their government isn't doing this or that, instead of actively questioning said government? Why defend something you have no idea about..
Why propose something of which you are completely ignorant? You do. The reflection of this ignorance is the ignorance you so foolishly project upon others. It is confirmed by the lies you have already accepted. And the consequences of which, which you haven't, because you certainly lack the means to foresee them. The bill for this life course direction will be paid in full by you – one day.
@truther..those that are going after you are more than likely cointelpro. Alex Jones gets his stuff from them and in fact works for the elites as does Ron Paul (Mason) and Naomi Wolf. They are the ones pretending to be on our side but work different roles for the globalist.
@tgambill, Thanks for the heads-up – I know you're right. For the last few months the same guys have been responding with aggression and ridicule even of legitimate and recognized science. It quickly became obvious their whole mission here is to parrot the govt. story and ridicule and distract good people seeking honest answers.
Now, link the chemicals with mind control, ELF and GWEN Towers, and HAARP. This should really get your interest peaked when "DISCLOSURE" and "Day of Declaration" comes in July, with the Benjamin Creme and this weirdo named Maitreya. They work together. The chemtrails have Barium Oxide, Aluminum Oxide (rainbow colors) and Barium Chloride on occasion. The purpose is to destroy the immune system and in fact the chemicals have killed off the bee population. The bees account for 80% of the natural food supply. This will aid in the food genocide later to support Kissinger' NSSM 200 Depopulation Plan to reduce the worlds population. In heavy spraying causes seizures, Pre-mature births, lung problems, etc…it is a conspiracy, fact.
show yourself shill'
@beachcomber2008, Yeah they send weather balloons once, twice a day, sometimes hourly. If conditions say no contrails 'til 10km and you see a low-level trail it would make sense to become suspicious.
All the fraudulent Rosalind's questions have normal scientific answers. Patrick Minnis is the foremost expert on satellite atmospheric studies. Particulates made of ICE CANNOT BE POLLUTION. Viruses, fungi and bacteria, are brought down by the water in the atmosphere. William Thomas doesn't seem to notice that complaints come from cities, which ARE places you DO get viruses, fungi and bacteria. A bollocks programme, and a bollocks post…
@beachcomber2008, Do you work for the government? What's the harm in investigating?
investigating something for which there is already an accurate and cogent explanation is a waste of time which would have been better spent investigating something worthwhile. You and the fraudulent bitch above are worse than useless – YOU are just about as harmful as you can get without actually "chemtrailing" yourself. Do I make myself clear, DUMMY?
heavy chemtrails again today! DAILY when i can see the blue skies!
Research "ENMOD" treaty at the U.N. site, State department website and read "Between Two Ages". The water supply is "poisoned" and so now is the food supply genetically modified. This was done decades before without approval by "representatives".
Discovery basically avoids the real issue. Just search for "chemtrails" and check any other result than this one. LOL
Powerful stuff!, great video mate!. Check out peyote the band on my space. The track "Don't Waste Any Time" mentions this stuff. Nice to hear this message making it into the mainstream!
@brad213 – they are creating ' climate change' to unite the world into a one world government, and to acheive the 'mother earth 'cults agenda.
I always leave room for doubt… but I will you are right on because I have some of the evidence.
We all breathe the same air. What would anyone benefit from poisoning the oxygen within our atmosphere. Wouldnt it be easier to poison our water supplies?
scaremenga, you really are brillant aren't u? have you checked out the unemployment rate lately? god, there's SO MUCH work out there isn't there! LMAO! p.s. the perfect slave believes he's free, u are a perfect slave! chemtrails daily when i can see the blue skies!
YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS: ULTIMATE PROOF OF CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING! watch?v=MRUqogeAgHo watch?v=VLA0yejkeYM
chemtrails are there to prohibit ufos from entering our atmosphere. research the magnetic and energetic properties of chemtrails and probable
ufo propulsion systems
can you tell me more about this?
Here's an interview with a guy who used to be on the inside of the chemtrails project, aka clover leaf? Give it a listen, make up your own mind. it won't let me post this thing for some reason, so I'll try it without the URL, instead just put the following into the youtube search browser. Ex government employee talks about chemtrails
i really dont know what to say. you need to slow down and think about what your saying!
Chemtrail spraying is boldly being done right over unprotected civilian populations, such as what is happening in the following video: v=uRoNDxAWQo4
Again with the go back to sleep? Isn't the job of "Truthers" to wake those who are asleep up? LOL. Yeah, I should be asking that question. Why would they want to kill us slowly? So they can have more work to do? it would be easier to enslave us all, especially if they are as advanced as you people say they are. How do you know how much they plan to eliminate? Did they publish a "NWO Manifesto" somewhere?
WOW is right! CONtrails daily when i can see the blue skies! scaremenga and mrfatandslow PLEASE go back to sleep or just get a good copy of the 911 commission report, should keep you sheeple busy for YEARS!
WOW to all u idiots who really beleive that our government is trying to take care of you=== UR A BUNCH OF IDIOTS! It's because of ignorant people like you that these things are going on. Use COMMON SENSE! Look in the sky. When would normal planes blow out THICK FLUFFY clouds of smoke that hang in the air for hours up to a full day? THEY DONT! &if you've ever seen these planes – they will blow out the chemicals and stop. If this was normal engine ejections they would continue the whole flight!
whats it like to live a life of such deep paranoid thoughts that you believe the goverment wants to kill you? enjoy your fantasy world!
"Why would the "NWO" want to destroy the population." Are you sure you should really be asking that question? That is in fact one of their "goals" if you will. They plan to eliminate about 90% of the worlds population.
scaremenga a lot of it has to do with weather manipulation and radar obscuration. Unfortunately, what they're using to do this is not healthy for us to be breathing.
no your a stuped fucking bastard when a jet engine burns its fuel you get vapor that comes out the back which is harmless water freezing
problem with opinions is some of them have no base or real concrete evidence, and a lot of opinions are formed by subjective, emotional thinking instead of logical thought. So most of these things you call opinions are instead theories or speculations. I just saw yesterday for the first time in my life about 30 "trails" in the sky in my area. I have a couple ideas of what they are, but I have not encountered enough evidence either way to sway me into a conspiracy opinionist.
scaremenga please go back to sleep, awesome vid KarakulBrigand! watch STESSO AEREO, SCIE DIVERSE! 4 trails only 2 persist! awesome catch! i see someone doesn't like this one, they spammed u! lol! ANOTHER day with chemtrails here in s.e.wisconsin today, daily when i can see the blue skies! just gotta observe daily and not believe WORDS that are fed to you! ps. polarized sunglasses are a priceless tool!
LOL. I thought the mission of people like you were to wake up these "sheeple" and here you are telling me to go back to sleep, into my world of "fantasies". I'd rather die in me sleep, metaphorically speaking, than die wide awake. That's just me. ROFL. Don't call me an ignorant loser either. I used to believe in chemtrails too, but evidence I found on a variety of unbiased websites, like the one with the largest datebase of aircraft photos, has obviously reversed my views. couldn't help this, but aren't you guys feeding me words right now? In the form of videos and flame comments? You're no better than the people you're "fighting against"!
Watch this vid: STESSO AEREO, SCIE DIVERSE! same plane, different trails! Four trails two persist two do not.
set up because they know once they scare everybodi into getin the swine flu shot there are gonna be plenty of deaths oh and guess what isnt that what they want to depopulate the planet so there will be less people to control in the new world order do research because im not making any of this up to scare anyone its all fact there are tons of videos on youtube that that prove me right thanks for the complement also an f ur taught to keep an open mind then open ur mind to some research
I did do some research. I was also taught that just because someone has an opposing viewpoint, doesn't mean they are wrong. Everyone's entitled to their opinions, just as you are. Were you taught that in school? There's tons of videos that prove me right too. Why would the "NWO" want to destroy the population. Who wants to rule a crippled population? Even if they dominate the world, then they'll have billions of sick *frankly* losers under their whips. How fun.
yes I have no clue wat a grid system or sumthin is maby I should look it up but if our govornment loves us so much why do they have fema camps set up all over the usa why do they have concrete cofins ur an idiot and yes they do because they dont want us riseing against the new world order there tryna creat okay in high school they teach you to obey obey obey and college is just more enslavement for the people why do people go to college get out an work at walmart if thats the case then you dont need to go to college u brainwashed dummy they also tryna kill us with there swine flu shoots why do we need mercury and swaline in out bodies cuz they tryna kill us and these are some of the ingr
I'm not brainwashed to obey; the exact opposite in fact. All of my teachers, especially my AP Euro teacher, encourages us to maintain an open mind. He links Europe's sour past with ignorance and obedience. And if there's anybody against total obedience, it would be me. Did I ever judge you personally? No. So there's no purpose to call me an idiot. If swine flu shots are so bad, don't get them. You're not forced to. Instead of accusing, maybe you should research the grid system. contrails
I am sorry I pissed you off. What does the space preservation act actually say about chemtrails? Contrails can be persistent, if the humidity of the surrounding air is high. It's not rocket science. If the air is dry, the contrails will sublimate quickly, turning the ice crystals into water vapour. If the air is humid, the surrounding air can't hold more water than it already does, and the contrail is persistent.
Umm I dont have to sit in front of a computer to view chemtrails I can walk out side ansee them all over the sky like some one is spraying chemicals in an orderly fashion so to your answer ur question you are the dumb one
I'm the dumb one for saying that the government doesn't want dumb people? Which they don't? Why are contrails showing up in an orderly fashions? Why don't you Google the flight grid for your local area, you'll notice that it's comprised of lines following "orderly fashion[s]", it keeps air traffic in a structured matter. Better yet, why don't you get the tail numbers of these sprayers? And then track them online? Maybe you'll be able to see they aren't government-sprayers, and just innocent pax.
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Not sure what the Christian symbolism behind a rabbit being preyed upon is – I noted it on another facade in Venice, I believe. One source implied that it alludes to the struggle of the human soul to elude Satan, but it is also true that rabbits sometimes represent souls in thrall to Satan. There's one in the lower portion of this detail from Bosch's vision of Hell.