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They Might Be Giants…
It's always interesting when the neighbors from the north come to town, even if they're not having a great season. Anything can happen and often, something does that none of us expect.
No update on Nomar yet, but he's not in the lineup today. Stay tuned for more info on that front.
I printed out all of your messages from Russell Martin and hope to bring them downstairs today. Will let you all know once they've officially been delivered.
Here's the lineup for today:
Pierre, LF
Kemp, CF
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Loney, 1B
Blake, 3B
Ethier, RF
Berroa, SS
Kuroda, P
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I'm first! What to say!
It looks kinda like that ethier (either) DeWitt or LaRoche may be coming back…
dodgereric's kid: Wait a minute. I know you. You're Juan Pierre. You play baseball for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Pierre: I'm sorry son, but you must have me confused with someone else. My name is Roger Murdock. I'm the co-pilot.
dodgereric's kid: You are Pierre. I've seen you play. My dad's got season tickets.
Pierre: I think you should go back to your seat now. Right Joe?
Joe Torre: Nahhhhhh, he's not bothering anyone, let him stay here.
Pierre: But just remember, my name is ROGER MURDOCK. I'm an airline pilot.
dodgereric's kid: I think you're the greatest, but my dad says you don't get on base enough for a leadoff hitter. He says that for a guy who is famous for bunting that you're the worst bunter he's ever seen. He says that you couldn't throw out my grandmother trying to score from second on a one-hopper to you out there in left field. He also says you can't get a jump off left-handers when it's time to steal second.
Pierre: The hell I don't. LISTEN KID. I've been hearing that crap ever since I got here. I'm out there busting my buns every night. Tell your old man to drag his fat butt out there for 162 games.
Here's the lineup for today:
Pierre, LF
Kemp, CF
Martin, C
Kent, 2B
Loney, 1B
Blake, 3B
Ethier, RF
Berroa, SS
Kuroda, P
Joe: They say we're old and we can't see
Anything good about walks or OBP.
Juan: Well I don't care if all that's true
'Cause you got me, and baby I got you
Juan: Babe
Both: I got you babe I got you babe
Joe: They say our love won't win no games
But I don't care if we go down in flames.
Juan: I guess that's so, I don't care either
as long as I get to start instead of Ethier
Juan: Babe
Both: I got you babe I got you babe
Juan: I got 8….point 8 mil, and I put you…. in my will.
Joe: And when I'm sad, you're a clown
And if I get scared, you're always around
Joe: So let them say your hat's too big
'Cause I don't care, let them call me pig
Juan: Then put your little hand in mine
There ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb
Juan: Babe
Both: I got you babe I got you babe
Juan: I got you to write my name
Joe: I got you to lead the game
Juan: I got you to pull up my socks
Joe: I got you to take me on walks
Both: I got you babe
man i really hope Nomar isn't hurt bad!! he's missed A LOT of games already this season and i personally like seeing him in the short stop position! and i'm SO HAPPY Andre is playing tonight!! i'm going to the game and i was really hoping he would be in tonights line up!! i hate seeing him on the bench!! he's got way to much talent to be benched!!
CP- If Nomar is hurt again, I would bet money on Colitus trading for Jack Wilson. And I am sure he will get punk'd just like a 3rd grader during recess
Can't wait for tonights game — hope we kill them. Not just today but the entire series. I don't think there's a team in ALL sports I despise more than the Giants!
Acardona – I wish too that Nomar isn't hurt bad. I really do like him; when he's healthy. Boy, it's like playing Russian-roulette with those three little words. Have fun at the game tonight!
jnv – please, don't say that; you'll give the Nedster ideas!!! 🙂
I picked up Pierre on my fantasy team! lol
Wow!!! Eric – that is too good!!!!! LMAO!!!!!
"I got you Babe" – When will it end? NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh and eric – I am LMAO. Do you think now that Sweeney is back on the roster that I should repost my Sweeney song??? 🙂
dnel – did you get my comment at the end of the last thread that I sent you an e-mail?
Pierre and Lowe for Peralta and Sizemore
Cp – it was all encryted – we have different applications for documents , I think
dnelly- i'm right there with you!! i'm so excited he's playing!! like i said before way to much talent to be benched!!!
cpompe1- thanks i will!
okay dnel – now what do I do??? Were you able to read anything? Did the picture come thru???
My Sweeney has a first name it's S-U-C-K-S
My Sweeney has a second name it's S-U-C-K-S
I hate to watch him at the plate
And if you ask me why I'll say
Cause Mark Sweeney has a way
with S-U-C-K-S
cp, I think it'll work best when he's dragging his bat in the dirt back to the dugout after coming up empty once again.
erica, that would only work if Ned was the Indian's GM.
good evening mis amigos. I was reading josh's post and hoping Nomar is ok and that we'd take the Giants tonight. Then I remembered that I will be there tonight..I am such a nerd. The sun at yesterday's game really fried my brain. I feel so sick and de- energized. It was a great game, but it killed my spirit 😦
I am not in my right mind tonight.
On that note- I hope Kuroda does better. I was at his last home start and he underwhelmed me by a lot. He is so hot and cold. I hope I see the Hot Kuroda tonight.
I am happy we are back at .500. Lets gain a game one by one.
CP – Nope – it's all encryted. The fact that we will both have songs will be great anyway. We will both bring our version with our own touches, and he will love it. Ethier (either) that or like scott says, he will think we are lunatics. Seriously, from his blog, he has a great sense of humor,and I am sure we are not the first middle-aged "stalker chicks" he has had to deal with. He appears to be the type that will love it and really appreciate it.
eric – yeah, that would work well too…
That's an absolutely great Sweeney parody, scott!
They should chant that at the game every time.
Acardona – thanks, and great comments on Andre's blog as well. Let's hope he has a good night so he can secure Andruw to bench a few more nights.
scott – That's an instant hit!!
Druw will start again on Wednesday when they face Sanchez. I guarantee it!
HAHA Eric. You are definitely right about that.
….a dream is a wish your heart makes…..
Is it too late to start a Sizemore trade petition and send it to management?
Tonights lineup would be better if hey moved Kent to Ethier's spot and moved the rest up a spot.
yeah dnel – I'm just going to have to print it and bring it down. I think Andre is going to have a great sense of humor about his middle-aged "stalker chicks"! 🙂
okay, gotta go.
Go Dodgers!
Re: Gurnick
Does the picture of this guy make you think that he ever put on baseball uniform in his life?
By firstname.lastname@example.com on July 28, 2008 3:41 PM
That's why his nickname is Ken "Mouse" Gurnick.
love the song scott!
Go stalker chicks, GO!
Any team that keeps an 092 hitter on the 25 man roster, has no desire to win, just to make money.
Andre hit a homerun off Sanchez at AT&T part at the farthest point, but you are probably right, Scurtis, because to Torre it's a feeling thing and not about the stats- what an idiot!! He benched him against Saunders after hitting a homerun off him too – a lefty, mind you. Not to mention the pitcher in Houston who was a lefty and that homerun was 438ft. But, your right Scurtis, Andre will be benched when Sanchez pitches.
fliegel, It's all about how Joe "feels" that particular day. You just don't "get it"!! LOL
Hey truBlue44 – Glad you got back on 🙂
The lineup is okay. I would prefer Andre higher, but at least he is in the lineup.
Thank you scott – We will represent ITD well, we promise.
Dude, Ethier is batting .385 against the Gnats….
He'd better be in the damn line up.
Gee Beav, it's sure neat to see all the grown ups getting along.
dnelly- yeah i really like andre's blog! he is so funny! yup i hope he does good and puts Jones where he belongs for a while!
alright everyone i gatta go or i'm gunna be late to the game!!
nice talking to you
Hey Wally! How have you been? You must have had a busy day, son. I'm glad you got a chance to stop by and say "hi" to your brother. He was busy today too, but he missed you something awful. Beav is a strange little guy, but he has made us laugh all day, along with your father, of course.
Anybody see any difference between Joe and Grady, I don't. Then again maybe Joe is an even worse fit for this team. Management are bumbling idiots. To bad us fans have to suffer through it.
Poor Nomar Garciaparra, he's the Mr. Glass of MLB.
Dre will start tomorrow night too!
obi wen. i call him an eggshell of a man. I love him, but he is so frail.
Obi – I think Eric's wife came up with a good name yesterday – Ginger Garciaparra – LOL!!!
Good Morning from Down Under. I just came across this very good Jon Weisman story that I thought might be of interest.
I was impressed by his thoughts.
HAHA Ginger lol
Alot of good comments.
Good job on the songs Obi and Beav.
You all pretty much echo my sentiments on the current state of affairs of our Dodgers. So I don't feel the need to reiterate them. I am ready to let Ned's little plan play out.
He acquired the vets to keep us competitive and bridge the gap while the young kids grow. Well, its sink or swim time.
Time for Ned's PVL's to get it done. Kent, Nomar, Phew, etc…. Let's see how it plays out. I just don't want him to make any more ill advised, knee jerk moves/trades. Ned, you've already made your bed, now lie in it.
Hey rodmky – I read that article this morning. He made a lot of great points that all of us have been saying all along. However, maybe he has he voice to get through somehow. One could hope.
jhall – know exactly what you mean – just wait and watch is all we can do now 🙂
Hey Jhall long time buddy!!!
I have a question for you………
Don't you think that NED is going to get **** (probably Jack Wilson) now that Nomar is hurt again?? I hope not but I think he will implode if he doesn't do SOMETHING or even ANYTHING!! LOL It's not in his nature to sit tight and watch the kids play.
the sensored work is short stop. LOL
JNV, I hope not. Hu is doing nicely in AAA and I would like to take a look at DeJesus. I am hopeful that Franks all of a sudden money woes will ward off any moves.
She didn't write it, buy she sure did sing it
To Linda Ronstadt's "Love Has No Pride"
Ned Has No Pride
I've made bad trades too many times,
I think that they don't mean much any more.
Fine times have gone and left my sad home,
friends who once cared just walk out my door.
I have no pride when I call out your name.
I have no pride when there's no one left to blame.
I'd give anything if you'd hit again.
Frank's seen you play too many nights
to think that you could come back again.
But I've heard you say: "I can still play."
But you strike out so much, I don't care what you say.
I have no pride when I call out your name.
I have no pride when there's no one left to blame.
I'd give anything if you'd hit again.
If I could buy you out, I'd truly try my friend.
And if I could pray, my prayer would never end.
But if you want me to beg, I'll fall down on my knees;
asking for you to play good…
I'd be pleading for you to hit good…
beggin' for you to be Andruw Jones.
I have no pride when I call out your name.
I have no pride when there's no one left to blame.
I'd give anything if you'd hit again.
Yes, I'd give anything if you'd hit again
attended yesterday's game and had a good view from the KABC luxury box (I know someone who got me the tickets). I hope this is the first of many wins for Kershaw in a Dodger uniform. I know this victory came against a bad team but every time he pitches he will learn something. My wife picked up a Clayton Kershaw autographed ball at the Dodger Dream Foundation silent auction the Dodgers hold at the staduim during games. I am willing to take the chance that he will become a star someday.
I could tell right away that Nomar hurt himself on the tag at third. Sweeny would have hit for Nomar in the bottom of the inning had the inning gone that far. I was in attendance the last time Nomar hurt himself earlier this season. I like Nomar and he was doing a good job in the field and at the plate so I hope this is not serious. Also, I like Jeff Kent too and right now he is hitting the ball hard but right at people. Still, it is clear to me he is missing balls he used to crush and someone already mentioned warning track power without refering to him but he definitely shows signs of this.
Eric, great takeoff from one of my all time favorite movies and one of my all time favorite movie moments.
I am behind the team 100%, sink or swim. Ned has made his moves and put the PVL's in place. It is time for them to get it done or go home. We need Kent to hit one of his hot streaks down the stretch and Phew to perform at his 2003 level to win this. Nomar is doing fine when he is healthy. We know good and well that Joe is going to lead off Phew, bat Kent clean up, and go with the veterans. That's fine. That is our lot. Now its time for them to get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Outstanding Eric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey Wally! Hey Mom!
Dad – I love that Airplane movie. I don't care that its about 30 years old and I've seen it a bazillion times, I'll still run across it and just watch for a couple minutes – usually till its over. Howard Jarvis – what an actor!!
Ned Colletti – what a GM.
Hello Theodore!! Great comments all day long from you I might add, and your song was fabulous as well.
Frank provides the venue.
Ned has set the table.
Joe is serving.
I guess we'll see if the meal and service was good or bad.
That's a great analogy jhall – wonderful 🙂
[Randy is crying]
Rumack: Randy, are you all right?
Randy: Oh, Dr. Rumack, I'm scared. I've never been so scared. And besides, I'm 26 and I'm not married.
Rumack: We're going to make it, you've got to believe that.
[a woman passenger comes in]
Mrs. Hammen: Dr. Rumack, do you have any idea when we'll be landing?
Rumack: Pretty soon, how are you bearing up?
Mrs. Hammen: Well, to be honest, I've never been so scared. But at least I have a husband.
[Randy cries harder]
Hey Beav!!!
LMAO Eric!!!
If its not any good Wally can we send it back???
Gee Beav, I don't think so. However, we can learn from it and not continue to make the same mistakes.
The problem with sometimes sending it back, you may get worse in return because you never know what the chef might do to it if you complain about the product – lol!!
The last thing he said to me, doc, he said, "Sometime when the crew is up against it, the breaks are beating the boys, tell them to get out there and give it all they got and win just one for the Zipper. I don't know where I'll be then doc, he said, but I won't smell too good, that's for sure.
Don't forget, Beaver's mom was in Airplane talking jive!
jhall, lets hope you are right and Hu or DeJesus gets the nod!
I also could tell that Nomar got hurt when it happened. I told my wife "Nomar is hurt" and she said how could you tell!! LOL Long story short, he got hurt. Lets hope he is OK because I was enjoying his resurgence as well.
Great song Eric. Always liked Ronstadt.
I like the scene where the radar operator's calling out the altitude – reminds me of Ned again: "he's at 1200 feet No No he's at seven hundred up to 1500 – What an ***hole!"
Hey June, here's your scene!!!
Randy: Can I get you something?
Second Jive Dude: 'S'**** butter layin' me to da' BONE! Jackin' me up… tight me!
Randy: I'm sorry, I don't understand.
First Jive Dude: Cutty say 'e can't HANG!
Jive Lady: Oh stewardess! I speak jive.
Randy: Oh, good.
Jive Lady: He said that he's in great pain and he wants to know if you can help him.
Randy: All right. Would you tell him to just relax and I'll be back as soon as I can with some medicine?
Jive Lady: Jus' hang loose, blood. She gonna catch ya up on da' rebound on da' med side.
Second Jive Dude: What it is, big mama? My mama no raise no dummies. I dug her rap!
Jive Lady: Cut me some slack, Jack! Chump don' want no help, chump don't GET da' help!
First Jive Dude: Say 'e can't hang, say seven up!
Jive Lady: Jive *** dude don't got no brains anyhow! Hmmph!
LMAO!!! lbirken LMAO!!! oh no!!!!
Just one more, I promise………
[reading newspaper headlines]
Rex Kramer: Passengers certain to die!
Steve McCroskey: Airline negligent.
Johnny: There's a sale at Penney's!
Thank you, Ward dear for bringing that up. I forgot about those wild and crazy days. It brings back memories LMKO!!!
NED – GO GET MANNY!!!!! SAVE THE SEASON before its too late!!! Torre can handle him in the clubhouse… he has plenty of experiance at that in NY!!!!!!!
Say Johnny, what can you make of this?
"Well I can make a hat, or a brooch, or a pteradactyl…"
Steve McCroskey: [to Mrs. Oveur] Now your husband and the others are alive, but unconscious.
Johnny: Just like Gerald Ford.
We would have to get rid of Kemp, Kershaw and someone else good for Man Ram.
Matt and Dre, I just want to tell you both "good luck", we're all counting on you.
I am behind the team 100%, sink or swim. Ned has made his moves and put the PVL's in place. It is time for them to get it done or go home. We need Kent to hit one of his hot streaks down the stretch and Phew to perform at his 2003 level to win this. Nomar is doing fine when he is healthy. We know good and well that Joe is going to lead off Phew, bat Kent clean up, and go with the veterans. That's fine. That is our lot. Now its time for them to get it done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By firstname.lastname@example.com on July 28, 2008 4:53 PM
That is a very grown-up and mature analysis of our current situation Wally. Now who REALLY wrote this?
Shirley, you don't think Ned is on Auto Pilot, do you?
And don't call me Shirley!
LOL!! I can tell the boys are going to have fun tonight. It is one of the funniest movies I have ever seen – thanks!!!
And north joins the sandbox with the rest of the idiots………LOL!
Ward, dear – I think our Wally is turning into a man. What do you think?
Northstateblues – are you going to tonight's game?
lbirken – one of my favorite lines 🙂
Gotta head for the hanger……..
Go Dodgers!!!!!!!!
Must be the en… Nah.
Being so far away from the action and limited to what I can find on the internet I hope I'm not repeating what others may have already pointed out but this article I found ..
…. really does highlight a lot of what ordinary fans have been saying/writing for some time. If sports writers from all over the USA can see the folly of what our FO does why then do I never read anything from the LA writers except "fluff pieces" issued by the Josh ands his staff?
No offense, but what the hell would we do with Manny? He's 36, begun and is into his downslide, and can't field, not to mention his attitude. They can have Phew and Cow. Anyone else, forget it. His numbers aren't much better than Kemp's, and he plays in a bandbox.
I gotta go to a meeting. It's usually better anyway when I'm not in the house during these games, if you know what I mean. I will be back about the 4th inning perhaps, and I hope we are winning at that point. Have a fun game, and I will catch up to you all later ~ Bye
I'm glad to see Andre in the lineup again tonight. Though I'd like to see him bat higher, I'll take it. I have a feeling he's going to have a great night tonight. Hope Nomar is back in the lineup soon. It scares me to think what Ned might do in a panic if he's going to be gone for more than a game or two.
did someone post this already? i haven't read all the posts yet.. it's from the PE blog..
– Nomar Garciaparra needed to undergo an MRI exam on his left knee, and results were not immediately available. The Dodgers have a renewed interest in Pirates shortstop Jack Wilson, but don't count out Rafael Furcal returning in September. He's currently rehabbing at Athletes' Performance Institute in Arizona.
– Brad Penny will make a rehabilitation start on Wednesday for Class A Inland Empire, and if all goes well will follow that up with one for Class AAA Las Vegas on Monday. He could return by the Giants series on the next road trip.
i say NO to jack wilson.. NO
Can't tell ya Rod. Baffles me too. Its like they've all been brainwashed and are in the Torre/Ned cult.
Could also be the fact that L.A. sportswriters are lazy and less critical compared to their eastern counterparts. Much easier to sit on their butt and relate what's spoonfed to them than to actually do a little honest evaluation and journalism.
OK I know, why don't a say what I really think.
Later Mom!!
Thanks Sara.
Getting Furcie back would be huge.
Penny too if 100 percent!
We will try to behave.
Do you think local sportswriters are less inclined to be really critical least they lose access? Remember what happened when one actually asked Joe a direct question and all he got was a sarcastic reply? T.J.Simers is the one local writer who is not afraid to ask tough questions but all he really wants to do is get under the skin of his subjects making himself not too popular with the players. My problem with him is he does not seem to care so much for the answers as real insight into anything but for the enjoyment he gets out of making some squirm.
Not sure if this has been posted.
The 31-year-old Jones, who signed a two-year, $36-million contract to anchor the Dodgers' outfield and provide power in the middle of the lineup, started the game on the bench, relegated to being the fourth outfielder that morning by Manager Joe Torre.
Jones and his .166 batting average will presumably be on the bench tonight when the Dodgers (52-52) play host to the San Francisco Giants in the first game of a three-game series, and they'll stay there until further notice.
"Right now, we're going to go with the hot hands," Torre said.
That would be Andre Ethier, Matt Kemp and Juan Pierre, who returned Friday from a sprained knee ligament.
"If those guys stay hot, those are the guys that are going to play," Torre said. "We're at a time of the year when wins are important for us."
Translation: The Dodgers, who are trying to overtake the Diamondbacks for the division lead, can't wait any longer for Jones to start hitting.
Exceptions could be made when the Dodgers face a left-hander, as will be the case Wednesday when Jonathan Sanchez takes the mound for the Giants.
Jones, who has two home runs and 12 runs batted in in 187 at-bats, said Torre spoke to him and that he understood the manager's reasoning.
The five-time All-Star and 10-time Gold Glove Award winner said that he wasn't exactly sure of what he could do to extract himself from this situation other than to continue working with hitting coaches Don Mattingly and Jeff Pentland.
"I've never been in a situation like this," Jones said.
HAHA off rotoworld:
The Boston Globe reports that the Red Sox did reach out to the Dodgers about Manny Ramirez, but talks didn't go anywhere.
The only way the Dodgers would take him if if Boston would accept Andruw Jones in return. Both the Mets and Phillies appear completely uninterested, so a Manny deal appears highly unlikely.
lbirken – I really don't know much about a teams right to limit access to a reporter if they don't like his/her questions in America but it does come across to me that reporters from other regions do tend to be more insightful in their reporting on the Dodgers than the local LA media. As for Simmers I read him as a satirical columnist not a sports writer per sae.
Rod, I can't believe the local writers don't see what others see, so I have to believe they are less critical for some other reason. I understand why Josh says the things he does; he works for the Dodgers.
Gee Dad, Miss Landers kind of helped me out some. I hope your not sore or nuthin'.
looking at pierre's stats as a leadoff hitter, his 0BP is at .296. how horrible is this number. consider this. andruw has about 20 plate appearances less than pierre has at leadoff. if you equalize them, pierre has gotten on base only about 6 times more than andruw over the course of this season. six times! that's it. we can all agree that andruw has been absolutely terrible this year. if pierre has only gotten base six more times than andruw, how can pierre's season as a leadoff hitter be anything but horrible as well? how can torre consider pierre a good leadoff hitter when he has gotten on base only 6 times more than andruw with the same amount of plate appearances. it's madness!
I Would LOVE to see the video of clayton kershaw getting pied in the face. haha!
I'm out for now. Go Dodgers and beat the Giants.
Go Kuroda, Go Dodgers, Go Puds!!!!
Juan Pierre (web gem) first play of the game.
Nice Catch JP!
Espn says the dodgers are talking to the A's about pitcher Duetcher(please excuse spelling, I'm not an A's fan) has anyone else heard that rumor?
TruBlue44, nope not heard about that. I don't like the doucherer. lol
scurtis thanks for the laugh, i think the Dbacks are going to get teixiera from the braves.
Yeah I hope they give up Conor J instead of C Tracy though. Tex will be huge!
Too bad our Dodgers won't be able to get someone like that.
Snakes down 2-0 thanks to KGreene HR
fantastic post khola
: Yeah Vin says now at least 2 nights in a row the exact same thing: "Well Pierre wasn't around long. Up comes Kemp, 1 out."
Crap. 7th and 8th place hitters getting on, I hope this isn't the start of problems for Kuroda.
Not good with Cain and Sanchez pitching next 2 days.
Cy Correia
Don't you just admire a team of great guys that take pity on every opposing pitcher that's having a bad year by making him look like Cy Young for a day.
Vinny gets these Snakes-Priests updates quick! That just happend!
We can't hit without Jones veteran presence and gamer attitude!
Psyche. Go Ethier!
FLAT FLAT FLAT tonight
This game not looking good right now, but wait till the next time through the lineup, will really start the hitting spree.
8-3 Padres over Snakes
game over
good night
talk to yall tomorrow
this is awful.
average team.
Sorry to call out Kent, but I guess the ball 2 steps to the right is just to far.
I've come to the conclusion that the Dodgers don't want anything to do with 1st place. Giving up a hit to the pitcher. How pathetic is that. Make him chase some pitches.
Give it up Dodgers. we stink………….
We got screwed on that call. He did not trap it.
Kuroda has really stunck since that great game he pitched at Dodger Stadium a while ago.
WOW.. Pathetic comes to mind. How long they gunna leave him out there. There is no mercy rule.
I meant, stunk, lol.
Tough call Boblee. He caught it, but that's tough for an umpire.
Kuroda screwed this whole game up. He deserved to get ripped after that misplay.
We weren't going to score any runs anyways. Cain probably will shut us down tomorrow and is that Jason Johnson we have starting tomorrow? Hope CBill can shut down SF Wed, cause Sanchez will be nasty.
Just think about the Gnats rotation if dumb **** Sabean hadn't traded Liriano.
The ***
Good, get Kuroda out of there, He's stinking up the place. This team is not playing like they want to win anything. They are playing like losers tonight. No life, no fire, no enthusiasm. The way we're hitting we won't come back in this game. Screw this, I'm going to bed.
If arizona gets texeria then maybe the dodgers will quit pretending we are a contender and focus on rebuilding.
If arizona gets texeria then maybe the dodgers will quit pretending we are a contender and focus on rebuilding.
I know it hurts to have to admit this but we're really not a very good team. Our record speaks for itself. My big hope is that Ned doesn't do anything stupid like trading for another weak hitting vet and we can build on our youth movement next year.
do the dodgers even have a pulse? i've seen roadkill with more enthusiasm than this team.
Rememmber the good old days. Pierre had a .360OBP. Now it's even lower than last years of .331 at .327. .294 from leadoff. Kent is killing us with an OPS over 150 less than his career avg. Berrora hits as bad as Jones. No were not very good.
Phewk the Dodgers, Ned Colletti and Joe Torre!
scurtis, don't forget lincecum. and they had joe nathan too. they gave up liriano and nathan for aj pierzinski.
oh, and who was in the front office at that time, that's right, our mr. ned.
ned no more stupid trades, this team sucks… give it up, frank you cheap idiot if we had cc this may be different… im so pissed right now, this is damn annoying
I F**** want to jump off the ten freeway wearing a "F*** NED COLLETTI CAPE".
I'm so angry I could punch a baby.
Oh hey its Mark Sweeny…
Hey Mark! Did you know Sandy Koufax had a better average than you?!
Holy Crap….Doth my eyes deceive me. Was that Sweeny?!
party time
not to beat a dead horse (well, it ain't dead because joe keeps trotting him out there to bat leadoff), but did anyone read the article in the times (i think) where t hey asked pierre if he thought the dodgers fans had accepted him? he said yeah, and that he wasn't going to change anything he was doing, he was going to continue to play his game. LOL, i.e., don't take pitches, don't walk, hit weak fly balls and ugly comebackers to the pitcher, but, continue to steal bases so that joe will continue to pencil him in as the leadoff hitter, because, well, "he knows how to bat leadoff." LOL. it hurts, but the only thing i can do is laugh. BTW, did anyone also notice that pierre did no running in the washington series? i gotta believe his knee is not 100% which means his only measurable asset, speed, is not there. this IS madness.
Hey Rod, how about another Mike and the Mechanics miracle? The Dodgers may not be very good but lucky for them they are not alone.
Don't look now but the Gnats are imploding!!!
Berroa is actually starting to stroke the ball a bit better. Hope he can keep it up when he gets the chance to play. Sweeney comes through and Pierre gets on. Will wonders never cease. We're actually back in the game and showing some life. Keep it up guys! At least we're not going to make another 5 plus era pitcher look like a Cy Young winner.
C'mon Martin…
lbirken-exactly right. the nl west sucks big time.
bluecrewgirl-we've been making a lot of crappy pitchers look like Cy Young winners.
I hope they can keep the momentum…
almost crashed my car when I heard Sweeney get his double. Props to Sweeney, hope we see more of it. For now, I'll enjoy a little crow. Mmm… crow
lbirken .. I've got Mike on the turntable .. cued up next to him is a Katrina and the Waves …
I told you the dodgers would start hitting> I never give up on winning a game.
Yes, we have Erica. I know we've all been saying it for a while, but Kent should not be batting clean up. I have total respect for his career accomplishments and I'm not saying he shouldn't be in the lineup, he just should not be batting clean up. We need more production from that spot.
The problem with the Dodgers is MANAGEMENT. Their stupid acquisitions and lineups have demoralized the team and devastated the team chemistry that was prevalent among the young players. Instead of building up that chemistry, Torre is continually making decisions and saying things that deflate it. And the way Ned and Torre treat the young players is pathetic. They are always on the edge of being benched, sent down, or traded. If management had said at the beginning of the season we are going with the young guys and stuck with a set lineup, things would be a lot different. But when all we hear about is how good veterans are and how many mistakes the kids are making, how can that create a winning atmosphere? Then you add in stupid trades like the Blake rent a player at the high cost of promising talent and blocking LaRoche again, and nobody should be surprised at the way it affects the team. Until things change, MANAGEMENT DESERVES TO LOSE…. and that may be the best thing that could happen to the Dodgers because ultimately Frank has to see that he's got the wrong leadership in place.
Walking on Sunshine?
Okay – I get in my car to come home to hear Jon Miller tell me the Gnats are winning 7-0, and by the time I get home and trying to get on here, it now becomes a 7-5 game. That is a good sign. If you get the their bullpen, we should be okay as long as we keep hitting the ball. My son and husband now this to be fact, too, and they are the gnat fans. They also just informed Andre was scratching his nose with his bat – (too funny), and that the catch he made was not a trap,and that it was caught. Even Jon Miller said it was a catch according to my family. Keep faith and Go Dodgers!!
lbirken .. You got it mate .. their one and only hit.
Why put in Jones…
I refuse to accept there is any benefit in losing. What has losing got us the past few seasons?
Yeah, I totally agree. Jeff Kent is probably one of the best second basemen of all time. We need a bat period. And Redfox is 100% correct. Management has screwed this team.
Dear God, that was a strike Fat *** JONES!
WOW. It's sub .200 hitter night.
He did it
Allright, this is now officially the weirdest game of the year. Sweeney AND Jones!!!!
Jones should be pinch hitter, he is 2-4.
Sweeney and Jones with RBI's tonight pinch hitting.
Sweet Jesus I'm overheating.
Yea team! We're gonna pull this one out. I can feel it.
Rod, I admit I had to look it up. Start the record because bogth Sweeny and Jones got a hit in the same game.
Hi Nelly. It was a catch. The ump who made that call is blind!
I agree it was a catch
Hey, my dog is licking my cat.
erica – even my gnat family said it was a catch, and they never side on the Dodger side.
Sweeney and Jones in the same night – damn!!!
dang it now the guy who makes things happen is out of the game. were doomed.
Nelly-Okay I'm officially in love with two men. My husband and Grady Sizemore. He owns a pit bull. Sigh…my pitty is watching the game with me right now. I'm a huge pit bull girl.
Nudist nuns riot in the streets
I missed the disputed catch too, DNelly. I got home right after it.
Eric, is that supposed to mean something, or did I miss a Ward, Wally and Beav moment? Or, are the cat and dog that excited about seeing Jones and Sweeney both get a hit they couldn't control themselves? LOL!!!
Howard Stern is speechless
I think there are several of our pitchers who can hit better than Sweeney & Jones!
I had to put a towel over the screen incase either my dog or cat read about co-habitation.
Sweeny and Jones getting rbi hits in the same game have done something to Eric.
Eric-My dog is afraid of my brother in law's cat…
Its a mad mad world. Especially tonight. Is the moon full?
erica – I have a pitpull mix – how about that!!
Dodgereric/Ward – It is about the Jones/Sweeney hits – LOL!!!
This should have been a rebuilding year from the start. Because JoJo and the Nedster's refusal to accept that situation, what has resulted is a series of bewildering, nonsensical, and schizophrenic personnel moves that views like a movie that doesn't know whether it wants to be a comedy or a drama. What we do know, however, is that it's turned into a pathetic joke. My big fear is, in the next 3 days, is that Ned, desperate to save his job, will try to make some deal to get what will be, essentially, one first-round home playoff game, sacrificing the future in the process. The die has been cast by this management team and, unfortunately, being the diehard Dodger fans that we are, we are going to all have to watch this scenario play itself out and hope for the best.
Signs of the Apocalypse………..I'm afraid……..
Wally and Beav – your dad needs you!!! I think the Jones/Sweeney thing has made his brain go into overload, and he can't handle it. Help!!!!!
My whole value system is shattered…………
Once again warning track power for Jeff Kent.
Kent needs to tone down the swing and focus on doubles and singles. That is atleast the third warning track ball in the last few games that he put all he could into. The power is not there.
Nelly–YAY!!!!!! Are they not the best damn dogs on earth? My baby wouldn't hurt a fly. Well, maybe a fly but not much else…lol.
She wears her dodger collar with pride! If she knew what was going on half the time I bet she'd be even more animated as my husband and I. LOL.
Dang man…Kent has lost center and opposite field power. He only hits it out if he pulls the ball.
Another example of Kent's warning track power.
Okay friends. I have an online exam to finish up. I'll check in later
🙂 Hopefully to comment on a win.
Your whole value system? This whole Sweeney/Jones thing really messed you up good then. Have you seen your sons?
What a find Cory Wade has been!! And completely out of nowhere, too!! Definitely, a future set-up man candidate for Broxton.
What is there to believe in anymore?
I think they must be out fighting the Red Menace.
Good trade, Nice guy getting tossed for a call.
Go Torre and Blake
Atleast Torre finally stuck up for a player..
Dumb move by Blake. At least he woke up Joe.
eric – you definitely have a point. Who knows what will happen next 🙂
Oh no – I guess Torre being thrown is what happened next – LOL!!! Finally some emotion from the guy!!!!!!
Umpires these days are garbage, way too full of themselves. I've never once paid to see someone ump a game. They shouldn't EVER be allowed to toss someone that quickly.
Now who will finish at third?
And now, JoJo gets tossed. All for being a fertilizer salesman.
No t.v. here… what the hell happened? And why would they throw out Torre as well?
Foul language I would guess he was not yelling. But normally when the coach comes out he will get tossed. Blake should have kept his mouth shut but tossing him for saying things in the dugout is stupid.
biddy, Blake tried to hold up on strike three and failed (looked to me like he went too far). He got rung up by the same ump earlier in the game for the same thing. That time he didn't argue much.
This time he was more emotional, but walked into the dugout. That pompus ump tossed him from the other side of the field. They had a camera on him while Blake yelled a bad word. He was waiting and watching for it. The instant he got it, he tossed Blake. What a load.
How can somebody be ejected for speaking in the dugout? That is so not right.
Torre went out there and politely asked him would he please toss him out too so it would look like I'm backing up my player. He didn't look too upset. Tommy would have been spitting all over him.
That really sucks eric!!! I just heard what happened. I didn't see it for myself.
Sweeney and Jones may have helped their confidence but if the Dodgers lose this game what they did means nothing, and that would be a shame, not to mention what it might do to Eric. Jones will get another shot in the bottom of the 9th.
Geez! Thanks for the visual! I swear I will upgrade the directv soon and buy a tv for my room! 🙂 I didn't think it was possible to be tossed from within the dug out! Blake must have caught him on a bad day.
OMG, lbirken! What if Andruw puts one in the cheap seats?
Jones will have another atbat in the 9th. Lets see what he has left.
lbirken – Eric's well being is definitely the most important thing. We don't want him going too far off the deepend. He's gone deep enough already.
Nah, I've been saying for the last few years that there are too many umpires that seek the confrontations. Instead of walking away they go for it, like people pay to see them work instead of the players. All this idiot had to do was to not look in the dugout. Granted, Blake should probably have controlled himself a little better considering we're shorthanded, but the ump didn't have to be hoping Blake would yell at him.
Is there a suspension for being tossed?
At least Andruw didn't get cheated or swing at bad pitches.
It's okay now eric – Andruw went back to normal.
Who were we kidding? We were really pushing the envelope.
I don't think there's an automatic suspension, but I'm sure that someone on this blog knows.
It was good to see us make a comeback but it hasn't changed my opinion that this year we're just not a good team.
That's for sure eric!!!!!
7-0, 7-6, it is still a loss and another missed opportunity. At least it was an interesting game. Of course this means going to be unhappy and having to read about it in the morning. This has been fun. Good night (or good afternoon to Rod).
We can't play Berrora.
The Dodgers continue to look everywhere for a shortstop, and tons of names have come up in connection with their search. They don't seem likely to land the Pirates' Jack Wilson, but they're scouring other organizations for options, having touched base with Toronto about John McDonald, the Yankees about Alberto Gonzales, the Twins about Adam Everett and even the Rangers about Michael Young, though it's unclear whether or why Young would be available. Guess it never hurts to ask
Nomar Garciaparra was found to have a sprained MCL in his left knee and will miss at least a few days.
The Dodgers have no immediate plans to put him on the DL, but it'd be no surprise to see him land there eventually. If it happens, they'd probably bring back Andy LaRoche
That sucks to come so close and lose, but I'm glad to see that they at least gave it a good try instead of laying down.
Nelly- Mark it down. I guarantee Old Man Joe starts Andruw tomorrow night. The guy is a changed man because he was able to swing a single! Ethier is screwed because big boy Andruw scored himself a rare RBI.
We're not a really good team, rod. But we're not that bad either. Therefore, .500. There's not much consistency, especially the starters.
I know of the old saying, "Winners celebrate and losers blame the umps". But we got jobbed bigtime by the blues. Forgetting the Blake incidents, Ethier caught that ball in right that was ruled a trap. That cost a run. The play at the plate was very close, from the angle the home plate ump had, he probably should have called him out. Martin's glove beat the runner to the plate. The catcher usually will get that call. That cost a run. Berroa's barehanded play could have gone either way as well, but these guys almost always get that one right on the replay no matter how they look live. At least we showed some life.
Yes, edwcarter, I wouldn't doubt it for a second. I have to admit, I wish for him and Pierre to strikeout/groundout because I believe they shouldn't be out there. I believe Andre deserves to be out there, and the only way he will play at this point is if Andruw keeps being Andruw. I know Pierre's position won't change unless he is injured so I have to hope for Andruw's demise so the right person will be on the field, who should be on the field in the first place.
I would be shocked if Andre sits tomorrow. He has a .625 career batting average against Cain.
If Cain was a southpaw, Andre would be riding the pine tomorrow. But he's not.
There is no question that Andruw will start tomorrow….2 days after it was announced that he lost his starting role. Funny way to run a team that is competing for a division.
eric – however, Sanchez, who pitches on Wednesday, is a southpaw, but Andre hit a homerun off him, but he will sit for that. I have no idea what Joe will do at this point. It's a day by day thing with him. I mentioned this idea earlier for Jones to come in for Pierre late in the game, and it worked, so maybe, just maybe he will continue that. Yeah right!!! What am I thinking – it's Joe we are talking about.
Torre hasn't looked at Andre's stats all year. Why would he look at them now. He's been sat on many games where he did well against a certain pitcher. There was one pitcher (I forget the name) that was happy he wasn't in the lineup because Andre had his number throughout his career. For Torre, it's a feeling thing – stats don't seem to matter.
I don't think it's Torre's feelings as much as his BELIEFS. He BELIEVES that veterans will eventually come around.
Beliefs/feelings – the philosophy still sucks!!! LOL!!! Of course Andruw and Sweeney will be the headlines tomorrow. I didn't see the first 4 and half innings, but I'm sure it was the vets fault for anything. I am assuming it was pitching, at least that's what my husband said.
but you had said alot of bad calls, too, right? The only call my husband commented on was the Ethier catch – he said even the gnat announcers said it was a caught ball.
okay – that didn't make sense at all – I'm sorry 🙂 I don't know what I was trying to say. "I'm sure it wasn't the vets fault for anything." I think – lol!!
You're horribly prejudiced nelly, but you're also correct. It sucks.
Kuroda wasn't fooling anyone but everything was hit in the gaps in that one inning. There was more than the umpires in this one. Kent showed his age on a grounder up the middle. Shoulda had it. Kuroda or Martin screwed up on a dribbler. Kuroda had no play at second but threw it there anyway. I haven't seen it explained anywhere yet. Martin should have been screaming "ONE! ONE!" at him. The damned pitcher hit a 2-run single.
But then again, our big inning was helped out a lot too.
After I saw Sweeney get that hit tonight I went to the store around the corner and bought a lotto scratcher and I won 15 dollars! Thanks SWEEINER!
Referring to Ethier's catch-that-wasn't, Jeff Francoeur made the WebGems on ESPN tonight with an IDENTICAL catch.
That's hilarious, Max! Did you go back for more after Jones' hit?
eric – You know I want the best players out there, Andre or not. If he were playing horribly, then I would expect him to be benched, but he's not so he shouldn't be. I truthfully don't want JP or Jones out there, but I know that's not going to happen, and I will live with it. On the days Andre isn't in the lineup, I cheer for Russell, James and Matt instead. I have actually enjoyed watching Casey play these last few days, but I liked watching him when he played with the Indians too. It's still strange watching him in Dodger blue.
Ha no. I figured if Sweeney got a hit, I win 15 dollars and Jones also had a hit my luck for the rest of my life was used up!
Max – that's too funny!! Don't get used to being able to do that, however – lol!!
From the Times: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodfyi29-2008jul29,0,3152476.story
The Dodgers' pursuit of a shortstop before Thursday's non-waiver trading deadline could intensify after an MRI exam Monday on Nomar Garciaparra's left knee revealed a minor sprain of his medial collateral ligament.
Similar injuries typically sideline players for about two weeks, meaning the shortstop could be headed for the disabled list for the third time this season. Garciaparra is expected to rest the next few days, progressing to baseball activities as tolerated, according to a club spokesman.
Well, I am glad we are not looking into Manny or Tex. I wouldn't mind Tex, but not when we have Loney. Loney is the future. As far as shortstop, I'm would like them (whoever them is) to trust their farm system and bring somebody up. That would be something I would just like them to try. Hu or DeJesus – pick one, I don't care, and just try it, they might like what they see.
So, eric – how's Nascar going? That was some weekend they had – wow!!
We still haven't heard anything from PierreEW – hope all is well with him. 🙂
Hey, thanks for asking about my second favorite sport! My guy Jimmie Johnson managed to win the race yesterday despite a horrible day for tire wear. When NASCAR is racing and the Dodgers are playing, I'm a bit incommunicado in the household. I've got the TV rocking back and forth between the events and the laptop as well. I get the race on the computer, listening to Johnson's in-car communications between him and his crew and spotters. It's tre-cool!
I'm busy right now writing up the results for the fantasy league that I run. If you want, I'll email the newsletter to you. I have a lot of fun with it.
Amen on the thoughts to PierreEMW. I'm sure he's fine and will be back with us as soon as he's feeling better.
Sounds fun eric!!!!
Fire Joe
Fire the guy who hired Joe
Fire the guy who hired the guy who hired Joe
Goooooood morning ITD!!!
Everyone sleepy?
Good Morning ITD writers and readers
Last night's game didn't have the result I was looking for, but most to the Giants' damage came when I was not home, so it was more of a matter of if the Dodgers were going to come back and win. It was a good effort, but a loss nonetheless. I guess we can thank the Padres for actually winning a game, and we can the thank the Rox for actually losing finallly. I still think the Rockies are the team we should be worried about. The Dodgers and Dbacks are going to be playing I win, you win, I lose, you lose, and the Rox are just going to keep winning and knock us both out just like they did last year. They have even taken Holliday and Fuentes off the trade rumor block. I guess it's just a waiting game to see what the Dodgers will do.
Morning June darlin'!
While they have the potential to do well, the Rox caught lightning in a bottle last year.
Good morning ITD. Disappointing loss. Kuroda didn't have anything. Let's get'em tonight!!!!
Good morning eric!! I must have fallen on you between 12 and 1 and then I got up again, and you were probably asleep. I was googling Ethier's name last night to find articles and I came across some personal information (His official My Space Site), and you will be glad to know that he is a HUGE (and he used caps) NASCAR fan, and he wants to meet Jeff Gordon someday. He also likes camping and fishing and one of his favorite movies is "Lord of the Rings"
And for CP – He is of French and Mexican descent. And no, I didn't comment on his "my Space." That to me is going too far because I feel that is his personal space. His mlblog is tied to him being a baseball player and not his personal space. I may be a lunatic "Super Fan", but I also respect his privacy as a person.
No trades Ned!!! Bring up Hu or DeJesus!!!!
Good Morning, jhall/Wally!!!
I unfortunately didn't see the Kuroda implosion, but I did see us try to come back and win, but to lose anyway. I think Jones and Sweeney both get a hit in the same night was bizarre to say the least, and I am sure the highlight of ever news article. I haven't looked into it too much, but I see Andruw is all over the home page.
eric/Ward – let's hope so about the Rox 🙂
Jones and Sweeney with a hit. Wow!! Rare indeed, LOL!!!
Good morning, Wally! Yeah, Kuroda seems to be either Christy Mathewson or Christina Mathewson, doesn't he? No offense ladies…………
Wow, sounds like I need to be buds with Either too! Gordon is the 'owner' of Johnson's car (technically) and he's a classy guy as well. I'm not into fishing but I sure do my share of camping. I could even invite him over to the house for this year's Lord Of The Rings Day in December! Uh oh, man-crush coming on!
Hey mom, dad!!!! Kuroda needs to skip every 3rd or 4th start. I think he needs extra rest.
eric – I thought you would like the "Lord of the Rings" thing because of your "Lord of the Rings" day.
jhall – Last night when Sweeney and Jones got their hit, eric lost all touch with reality. As he says, his moral compass was a screwed up. It was too funny!
eric – I am not sure who those two people are – I am sure I should, but the names don't look familiar at all.
Morning Mom, Dad!
Gee our team is disappointing on so many levels…
Nice try for a comback, but no hits after the 6th isn't going to get it done, which is precisely why this team won't make it to the playoffs – not enough depth off the bench (a pair of miraculous hits by the two worst PVLs notwithstanding.)
Sweeney's hit will only serve to justify JoJo using him at every opportunity now. He can go 0 for his next 20, but JoJo will point to one success and use that as the rule rather than the exception. Same with Cow.
JP's OBP since he came back is .313 for those of you that care (which obviously leaves out JoJo and Nerd.)
I'm of the opinion that Kuroda's arm is bothering him again. That's 3 stinky starts in a row after a couple of great games.
And now with Nomore down AGAIN, I'm sure Nerd will do something stupid. Its just like the perfect storm: We have a chance at winning the west even though we're mediocre, Ned and JoJo can't stand youth so Hu/De Jesus is out of the question, and Ned's trying to save his job.
At the end of the year when we finish 3rd behind a division winner that wins only 85-86 games, Ned's head may roll, but the truth is JoJo was brought in here to win, and all he's done is make a mess of things. Old Joe is as much of the problem as Ned, and needs to be canned right along side of him or we'll have the same results in '09 as this year.
Hey Wally! Didn't see you come in.
Hey Beav!!!
enchanted – insightful as always!! Good morning Beaver!!!
Good morning, All!!!
Have to agree with enchanted's take on the whole thing as usual. Just waiting for the deadline to see how badly we're getting screwed again this year.
Morning Beav! Morning Bear!
Response to enchanted's posts:
I care
June, are you talking about Christy Mathewson? He was one of the greatest pitchers of all time. He pitched for the New York Giants 100 years ago. A real rarity for the time, he was college-educated and renowned for his gentlemanly ways. Extremely popular with the fans, he was serving in WWI when he was accidentally gassed in a training exercise and never quite recovered. He died at an early age (early 40s?). One of the original 5 members of the Hall of Fame. Christina Mathewson I just made up. 🙂
Thank you,Ward, for the history lesson. 🙂
Good Morning Messagebear!! I didn't see you there. Hope you are have a fabulous day!!!
My apologies to the Great Mark Sweeney as I see he managed to make contact last night with a timely hit. Unfortunately, if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly, I'm guessing no Ethier for Wednesday, right? Good ol' JP doing his 1-4 thing as expected. No walks. And with Nomore hurt again, look for LaRoche to hit 30 HR for someone else next season as Ned & Joe trade him for an average SS.
Morning Bear!!
Morning Scott!
Scott – some are thinking Ethier will sit today because Jones actually got a hit last night, but I don't know anymore. He hit a homerun off of Sanchez who is the pitcher for Wednesday, but I know none of that matters to Torre, so I really don't know what's going to happen, then do any of us, really? We may have a new outfielder or short stop by tonight's game, anyhow. We really are clueless when it comes to Ned and Joe's mind right now, other than being Vet hungry. At this point, anything goes with these two, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least, pissed yes, but certainly not surprised.
Can someone please explain to me why fearless (hapless?, helpless?) Jason Johnson gets into the rotation while Chan Ho, probably the biggest surprise (in a good way) this year, and who's turned in some impressive starts, comes out of the bullpen? It seems to me that down the stretch you'd want your best starters going as often as possible, and JJ is probably the epitome of a long reliever (if that.) Say what we will (and did) about Grady Little, I'd take him back in a heartbeat over JoJo.
Morning scott! I'm not ready to apologize to Sweeney yet. His average is above the Sweeney Line again but he's only another 0 for 5 from sinking below it.
June, anything you want to know about baseball from 1900 thru 1930, let me know. If there's anything to reincarnation, I was either a player or a fan from that era. I have an uneasy affection for it. When I was still in school, I'd schedule a 3 hour break in the week just to go into the library and look up stories on Mathewson, Ty Cobb, Honus Wagner, Babe Ruth, Tris Speaker, Rogers Hornsby, all those guys. I had read of them for years, but I wanted to read stories written by people who had actually seen them play. I started making copies of those stories and then took them home and typed them up. This was 1972-73, so it was pretty labor-intensive. I put them in a 3-ring binder, which I have to this day. Those pictures I sent you for your class were in that binder.
I had no life, I guess.
e, Chan Ho continues to come out of the pen because Joe likes him out of the pen. He probably has memories of him starting in Texas and pummeling him. Joe don't know stats. I think I heard Vin say that Colorado is 10 – 1 at home against lefty starters. So naturally we started Stults and Kershaw there. He's an idiot, pure and simple. I was so happy when the Dodgers signed him that I didn't much care about the horrid way we dumped Grady. Stupid me.
Wow!! eric – that's very impressive to say the least. I really want to work on a timeline for the classroom. I got a really good idea from Steve Garvey to use in the classroom of how to incorporate all the ballparks into the school year. So, that with a timeline, would be fantastic!! I will definitely look to you for guidance on that. Thank you eric!!!
Hey, I got an email from that "max power" guy ripping me about something I said 5 days ago. Didn't someone else here get a nasty email from him?
Not I……..
That's out of line.
Good morning. I haven't read all of your comments today, so I hope I'm not repeating too much.
I was at the game last night and here are my thoughts.
Yes–everyone here knows, but I was sitting right next to Andre last night (farther out than I like to sit) I saw the catch up close. It was in his glove the entire time!!!! It sucked cause we needed to end that inning right there. Dnel- that pic of Andre and Matt in the gallery- beautiful 🙂
I must be bad luck. Every single time I've seen Kuroda pitch, he is terrible. I've never been to one of his "brilliant" games. That's too bad.
I was thinking about you all last night when we had the rally of, Berroa, Jones, and Sweeny getting hits. What a crazy thing to see! I was telling my non-Dodger friends at the game how bad they were and I was showing them their stats on the board, and then they all hit. I wonder what all of your comments where last night.
I am happy with this 4 man out field rotation that Joe is practicing. It protects Matt and Andre as starters, Juan gets to start too and I am ok with him leaving in the 7th so Andruw can get some playing time. It's working out I feel.
It was a heartbreaking loss. The game was so boring in the begining when they retired us in order 1-9. That sucked!!! But then we rallied and I thought we could pull it off.
I hope you all like Joe getting thrown out. It showed that he backs up our players. It was a bogus call, he didn't have a full swing. It was crazy when Blake came out and charged the Ump- I thought he was going to swing for a second. It was good to see some fire in the game, I hoped the boys would use it to win the game, but it didn't work 😦
Oh and one last thing- some fan jumped into the Giants dugout during the game. We watched him go over the wall. Security swarmed and they HOG TIED him and carried him out by his arms and legs. It was quite a strange thing to see!!!
ok. long enough post. GO DODGERS. I will be there to cheer then on tonight!
Can't say as I have scott. My detractors prefer to do it on here! LOL Sorry that happened though.
jnv got the same e-mail, but we weren't sure it was him. The max that comes on here believes what we think, or so we think – hmmmmm!!!
LOL!!! enchanted — too funny!!! you are right!! That brings back memories. Then again, that is why you are the Beav now – LOL!!!
Amy – I am glad you got to sit by Andre, and yes, even my gnat fan family thought he caught the ball, and Andre doesn't get much praise in this house other than me, which in itself is probably plenty – okay way too much at times. I even cheer when he doesn't strikeout!!! I figure for him when he doesn't strikeout, it's usually a pretty good at bat – LOL!!!!!
enchanted – still laughing!!! LOL!!!
Amy, that was pretty unusual last night with those guys getting hits. If I was you, I would have made sure I was wearing rubber soled shoes when the lightening strikes! Also, don't get too happy about the 4 man OF until you see Andre starting every game.
Amy, that was pretty unusual last night with those guys getting hits. If I was you, I would have made sure I was wearing rubber soled shoes when the lightening strikes! Also, don't get too happy about the 4 man OF until you see Andre starting every game.
I was at Saturday's game. Right after the final out some knucklehead ran out into the outfield and started spinning in circles like he was Stevie Nicks. They hog-tied him, too. I was right at the base of the aisle where it meets the outfield wall, so I yelled, "DRAG HIM OUT BY HIS FEET!" They didn't. I thought it was a good idea.
New thread……..
Really makes you wonder what goes through someone's mind when they do things like that. I just can't imagine the little voice that comes on saying, "hey! you know what would be really fun…"
I'm sure hog tying isn't how they thought it would end though.
Unless of course the little voice was saying, "Hey! you know what would be really fun so that we can get hog tied?"
Amy- "I hope you all like Joe getting thrown out. It showed that he backs up our players"
I will be there tonight as well. 😀
lol scott. I will be careful not to die at Dodger stadium. And NO, I wont get to comfortable with the OF situation- but at least for NOW I like that way it's working!!!!
Eric- mi amigo. Yea, my dad was also at a game this year when they hog tied a man too. What's up with that? It was definetly a sight to see. in all of the years I've been going to that Stadium, I've never heard of this many people attempting to go onto the field.
Denl- it was good, cause when they put Jones in, Matt was in right and I go to see him closer up 🙂 They kept showing a fan on the big screen who has a jersy that said Mrs. Ethier. I was thinking "too bad he's the only 'young guy' who's married". It always good to see supporters though.


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Financial Lessons from Immigrants: Save and Grow
Virginia's Indian community thrives by encouraging its young people to get good educations and start small businesses.
The prosperity and phenomenal growth of Northern Virginia's Indian community boils down to three e's: entrepreneurship, education and English. But Sudhakar Shenoy says he would add one more element. Shenoy, a pioneer of the community, emigrated in the 1970s to further his education and is now chief executive of IMC, a computer services company. "Fear is a great motivator," he says.
Fear of failure, that is. Indian immigrants are generally well educated and fluent in English. Many owe their entry into the United States to immigration rules that give preference to highly skilled workers. For Shenoy's generation of émigrés, those ingredients assured that America "got the best and the brightest," he says. "The chances of success were very high."
Shenoy arrived with $5 in his pocket and in debt, having borrowed money for his plane ticket. He says the Indian government gave him $8 before he left; he spent $3 and used the remaining money for a bus ticket from New York City to Philadelphia, where he stayed with a friend until he could enroll in graduate school with an assistantship that earned him a stipend. His father had warned him that he'd have to live on his own earnings because, at the time, the Indian government didn't allow citizens to send money overseas.
Shenoy earned a graduate degree in electrical engineering and an MBA from the University of Connecticut, where he taught for five years. In 1981 he followed the path of many Indian immigrants and started his own company, IMC. Entrepreneurship is woven into Indian culture, says Shenoy, who is the grandson of entrepreneurs with interests in farming, steel and textiles. "As kids, we always thought of having our own businesses," he says.
In starting IMC, Shenoy relied on another quality common to many first-generation Indian Americans: thrift. He stuck to a monthly household budget of $611, which included a $410 mortgage payment for the home where he lived with his wife, Bina, and two children. Bina took a job as a bank teller and brought home $615 a month. The couple's savings of $2,000 went toward renting a small office and buying some used furniture. Shenoy's "calculated gamble" paid off. In six months he had 15 employees. The company now employs 450.
The Indian community in Northern Virginia has rapidly expanded in the past 15 years. In prosperous Fairfax and Loudoun counties, outside Washington, D.C., the Indian population has grown from about 27,000 in 2000 to 64,000 today. Many live in the booming Dulles Corridor, a thriving computing and telecom region.
The population growth is also the result of chain migration, a phenomenon in which immigrants settle near others of the same culture. Nayantara Sheoran moved from India to the U.S. in 1999 and is now a doctoral student in cultural studies at George Mason University, in Fairfax County. She says the appeal to Indians "is to be able to raise their children in what they consider to be a more Indian culture." That includes everything from access to Indian food and Hindu temples to preserving traditional values, such as respect for elders.
But it would be a mistake to think of the Indian community as insular. "They don't tend to stay behind ethnic walls," says Eileen Curtis, president of the Dulles Regional Chamber of Commerce, but rather they travel freely in business and social circles. That, she says, has helped Indians become a "vibrant engine of entrepreneurial growth."
Although entrepreneurs are by definition competitive, cooperation is also a hallmark of the Indian business community. Shenoy co-founded the Washington, D.C., chapter of Indus Entrepreneurs, a nonprofit that aids young business owners through networking and education. He has taught a course at George Mason called "From Geeks to Gazillionaires," which helps entrepreneurs learn key skills.
The current president of Indus Entrepreneurs is Dolly Oberoi. Like Shenoy, she came to the U.S. for grad school and founded a high-tech firm in Northern Virginia. In building C2 Technologies, a company with $55 million in sales, she learned lessons that she passes on to others. "Do they know about the Small Business Administration? Do they know venture capitalists? We ollectively feel that the next generation shouldn't face the same challenges we did."

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City installs 12 new crime cameras in Baltimore
Cameras to assist crime prevention in Mount Vernon, downtown areas
The city has installed one of 12 new crime cameras, bringing the total to 622 cameras.
On Thursday, Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake was joined by Councilman Bill Cole, Councilman Carl Stokes, Governor's Office on Crime Control & Prevention Executive Director Tammy Brown and community and business leaders to take part the latest installation in the Midtown Community Benefits District.
The expansion of CitiWatch, the city's actively-monitored crime camera program, will assist crime prevention efforts in the Mount Vernon neighborhood and downtown.
Officials said the new cameras are to be installed along Charles Street between Mount Vernon Square and 20th Street.
"The CitiWatch program is a vital part of Baltimore's effort to reduce violent crime in our neighborhoods. The cameras serve as a force multiplier that enables the men and women of the Baltimore Police Department to do more to protect the citizens of this great city," Rawlings-Blake said. "We are grateful to our partners for their support of this vital crime prevention tool."
The new cameras and supporting infrastructure are funded by GOCCP as well as grants from the Abell Foundation.
The camera expansion builds on Rawlings-Blake's continued investment in public safety. Also counting this year's northeast district expansion, over 115 new crime cameras have been added to the CitiWatch network since Rawlings-Blake took office, increasing the total number of cameras to 622.
Officials said in 2011, CitiWatch participated in more than 1,236 arrests, 145 of which were made in connection with violent crimes, including robberies, assaults and illegal gun possession.
The mayor's office said despite a difficult budget deficit, the mayor's Fiscal 2013 Budget fully funds the operation of the crime camera program, which has been shown to reduce crime by 25 percent in covered areas.
An Urban Institute study found that Baltimore's CitiWatch system has a significant impact on crime and yielded $1.50 in benefits for every $1 spent.


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UK's Cameron assessing review of country's press
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FILE - In this July 28, 2011 file photo, Lord Justice Brian Leveson speaks during the first formal session of his phone hacking inquiry in London. Leveson, who spent a year investigating the misdeeds of Britain's lively newspapers, is giving Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron an early look at his recommendations on Wednesday, Nov. 28, 2012 for the regulation of the press. (AP Photo/Sean Dempsey, Pool-File)


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Today I begin a journey that is a bit of a surprise. I am in my mid 40's and am a gay man. I have an amazing career that I love and allows me to travel the world. I have a boyfriend and although it is not terribly serious (likely because of my issues), and we do not live together, he is a wonderful person, and a kind soul. I trust him and he is patient with me and non judgemental.
I have always been a person that is smart, a master manipulator, a wearer of masks, a "hider" of what is really going on inside, and I am compulsive in many ways. When I do something I tend to do it very well, and full speed ahead. This is the same whether is it how I manage my life, my friends, my career, drinking, smoking, quitting smoking, quitting drinking, and other things too. It has also meant that I have used porn very much and have used it to the point that I do not often (or ever) get an erection with a partner, unless the partner is new, or if it is an incredibly attractive person to me. Now that I am with my boyfriend and no new partners are in my life, my ED has become an issue, as it was not noticeable before.
The way I have led my life has always been to hide from things. When I was young I went full steam into work and an over active social life. As I got older the over active social life continued, If I was home I would feel as though I was missing something. I also began to smoke, drink and party with friends. I smoked for several years, but eventually quit after several tries almost 8 years ago. I was still drinking and eventually it got to the point that I would drink everyday. It was like this for a couple or more years. Eventually, just like smoking, I hated being a slave to anything and so I just stopped, and it has been over 4 or so years. I will never go back to either smoking or drinking as they were completely bad for me.
I now believe that I have PIED. I have used porn (generally cam2cam in the last couple years) as a way to feel intimate, to feel satisfied and to escape stress, boredom, and anxiety. When I was feeling the shittiest I could still always find a cool person online to cam with and life would be quickly "better". The reasons I believe I have PIED is because I have absolutely no issue with getting an erection quickly and easily when I go online. I also have no issue with a new or exciting partner. Now that I am in a relationship that is no longer new, I am hardly able to maintain an erection or to reach orgasm. If I do it is a struggle and as such I find myself avoiding sex in an effort to avoid this awful feeling. I blamed lack of chemistry or "fireworks" but truthfully it is likely PIED. I have been using cams or porn at least once per day (sometimes twice or more, but sometimes none at all for several days) off and on for the last few years, but before that occasionally also.
I have done much reading and have joined this forum for help and advice etc. I am not going to be watching any sort of pornography and am going to do a reboot of my brain in an effort to rebuild my brain pathways so that I can become aroused normally by myself or with a partner.
I hope that others on here will help me with advice and the numerous questions I will likely have along the way! Maybe I can also help you!
For starters, can someone help me with a counter or a spreadsheet? What should I be tracking? Thanks a million.
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August 31, 2015, 01:52:30 AM »
Trackers set...
It has only been a day since I used an app or website to look at P or P like material, but I have not directly PMO'd in about 15 days. I did M yesterday but it was a huge struggle as no P was used.
so the journal begins...
My goal is to know what I am like without P, to have a good healthy outlook about sex for life, and to not have PIED.
today has been a day of study, sadness, frustration, learning, videos, tears, anxiety and fear... I am feeling like I totally have to bust a nut. I am so horned, but no erection. My goals have been set, and I am going to do a full reboot. 30 days of no M, and 90 days + with no P.
I will continue to read from the reboot nation all the amazing input from people already past this point, and also will continue to watch the suggested videos from YBOP. What a huge resource.
Thanks to everyone who put their story on here, and shared experiences, it sure helps to know what lies ahead. I am scared as hell.
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August 31, 2015, 10:45:38 AM »
As I am finding out it isn't exactly easy to quit. I had a set back overnight after 37 days. Just a few pointers. Be stronger than your mind. It will try to deceive you. Post here when you get urges. Keep your mind and hands busy with other productive things.
The withdrawal symptoms you talked about are normal and sort themselves out with a little time. Be strong and fight the good fight. It is worth it.
Blessings Brother!
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August 31, 2015, 11:36:47 AM »
Hello LB,
first of all: good you found your way to this forum and decided to open your journal. Sharing your story and your journey will get you a lot of support from other rebooters. I'm a partner by the way. And as a partner I would like to ask you: does your partner know about your struggle? I know, it's very hard to tell your SO about this, because of the shame and the guilt, but after my husband finally told me all about his addiction, we were able to work on this together. He felt like a big weight was lifted off his shoulders. No more secrets. Of course, I was angry, devastated, sad, shocked etc., but I've always known, something was wrong. When we finally found this site, we watched Gabe's videos together and that took away some of the biggest stings. Now we can talk without all the negative emotions (me: anger, frustration. He: shame, guilt) and that has been very productive. By telling your partner, you'll probably find yourself a teammate, to fight this together.
Anyway: hope you'll find all the strength you'll need and I hope we'll be reading about your progress here...
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August 31, 2015, 12:50:45 PM »
Hi LB,
I'm glad you made it to our little sanctuary on the Internet. It is very important to have accountability with men who are also struggling with this very debilitating disease.
I always have these seven pieces of advice for everybody here.
First, separate porn from what happens in your life. If you're bored, that is not an excuse for porn. Do something else, anything else! Write something, draw something, learn a musical instrument, read a book! You are not watching porn because you're bored, you're watching porn because you choose to.
Second, meditation is important. Instead of living life in the fast lane, go out and make yourself watch the clouds fly by, listen to the birds, and concentrate on all the life around you. Ask yourself, does any of these things watch porn? The answer is no. That will help,with hypofrontality.
Third, cold showers help. They snap you out of anything you were thinking about right away. You could be grieving the loss of a treasured member of the family, but in one second, that disappears. It also helps with with dopamine production and other endrophines.
Four, come here regularly, everyday. This place is an awesome place for help and accountability. The stories of the men here have helped me, and has given me different insights into my addiction.
Five, find healthy ways of spending time with friends and family. Going to movies and dinners are awesome.
Six, tell your partner, but only enough for hi. To help you and understand what is going on with the pied. Once he understands, things will slowly get better. After 5 weeks, my PIDE disappeared, and me and my girlfriend's relationship got much better.
Seven, having long-term goals help. Especially when life throws you a curve ball.
Eight, exercise also helps dopamine levels.
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August 31, 2015, 01:13:54 PM »
Thank you very much everyone! Such great advice. I just can't believe that a few days ago, I thought nothing was really wrong, and now my world is upside down! It is scary to think that I have an addiction, and it is going to be a nightmare struggle.
I am debating how to tell my bf, as this could surely kill our relationship. It has not been terribly strong anyway. Time will tell.
I would sure like an "accountability friend" here online. Preferably a gay man as there may be better understanding.
Thanks again everyone, I am off to try to keep busy as my anxiety is huge today.
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August 31, 2015, 01:38:32 PM »
I learned that P addiction is a thing, and I have it, the day after my girlfriend broke up with me. I told my ex girlfriend after about a week of no PMO. She was my ex, I really had nothing to lose, and really one of 2 people I consider friends in this whole state (I recently moved here). I needed to talk to someone. Just a few days after that we were back together. Things have been going great since. Even kicking the "move in together" idea around. This was my experience.
My $0.02 (probably worth less than that)....
Honesty is the best policy. You never know where being open and honest can lead. You already know where keeping secrets will lead.
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August 31, 2015, 05:26:58 PM »
I have a couple questions..hoping for some insight.
1. I have read extensively on this forum and also on YBOP, and people say you must not only stop Porn (for obvious reasons), but also must stop M. M is a natural part of life, and something that was done by most men long before they knew what porn was. How does this help with getting over PMO, and is just plain M something you can bring back into your life down the road?
2. How long does the anxiety last for most people? I know it is a symptom of the withdrawal or change in dopamine levels, but was wondering how fast a person generally returns to a "new normal"?
Thank you in advance gang.
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September 01, 2015, 02:08:00 AM »
Today was interesting...some observations:
1. Anxiety! Got better after the gym, and a visit to my counsellor.
2. Horny as can be, but no erection. (Why is that? I used to get erections if I was horny at times. Am I beginning to flatline already?)
3. Tired, as I am not able to sleep well, due to stress and anxiety.
4. When I am around others it seems to get a little better, less horny and less anxiety.
5. genital area feels "empty" or achey.
6. Tried a quick cold shower and it felt awful, but once done, I guess maybe I felt better...
Take care everyone,
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September 01, 2015, 03:01:26 PM »
Hi All.
It is still early in that day today, but struggled to get out of bed (Ugh!) made it to the gym and now home for a quick shower then off to the office for an hour to do a bit of work even though I am on a day off!
I was wondering if anyone is similar to me in the following way:
I am 43, gay, and not a hard core addict. What I mean by that is, I didn't have porn on all the time, or if I was busy for a few days I would skip it without big concern. The thing was that I was attempting to M normally and could not get an erection, and also could not get an erection significantly with my bf. Anyway, this lead me here and I am determined to try to get my own sex life back and to not rely or be a slave to anything else (porn or cam) to get off.
Generally used cam2 am for the last while, and really enjoyed it. I had a few "buddies" that I enjoyed very much and actually felt as though I had a friendship with a couple of them. I actually will miss them and one in particular, I have texted and told that I will not be having cam2cam anymore, but in the future we can meet up and person to person is cool, because it is real, personal, and more passionate.
Today and yesterday I noticed that I am very excited, but hardly getting erections. I am feeling quite depressed but am sure that in time (hopefully not to long) this will pass. I have been looking at real guys that I find attractive quite a bit...is that OK? Any input is appreciated.
Cheers and may pst more later if I have time! Kick ass guys!
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September 01, 2015, 03:44:50 PM »
The first two weeks is pretty rough. I had similar feelings along with insomnia. I'm guessing its normal. You are early in the reboot and these moods/emotions will come and go, sometimes within the same minute. As for no erections...I was also very horny early on with the same result. But when it came time for actual sex, about 2 weeks in, the soldier preformed like a champ. No worries lb this will all start to settle down in a week or so. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
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September 01, 2015, 06:33:32 PM »
Everything you describe is the same as what I went through, except the boners....sigh. I also felt very horny that first week but in a week it crashes, just expect it. Stick with the gym, it will be amazing the gains that come in the next month. Still here I am about six months later, a few set backs but not a single regret.
My wife told me to be a participant not a voyeur, I think we should all do this.
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September 01, 2015, 09:45:10 PM »
I agree with LTD, honesty is the best policy. I thought I was going to take care of this "problem with PORN" on the side without having my spouse know a thing. Well bud, it is indeed an addiction. Once the withdrawals started to kick in he was like wtf? I had immense conflicts in telling him. I started by asking him to go to this website. He saw Gabe's videos and then said he was there to support me. Ever since then, now he understands why I will get up from the couch during a movie when a "steamy scene" comes up. In fact he is helping me now by being conscious of what we watch.
You've come to the right place. PORN addiction is real with very real withdrawals, emotional, physical and physiological. We are here to help each other through it. I will tell you this it is not an easy journey. I struggle every hour to stay sober. Gabe points out the withdrawal symptoms but they affect each one of us at different times and differently.
The most important thing is to keep posting. Read and you will find that you are not the only one going through this hell. I wish you lots of luck.
Thank god for this website!!!
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September 07, 2015, 02:02:32 PM »
Hello everyone,
So far I besides being near tears at times and depressed (having trouble getting out of bed) I am making the best of it I guess.
I do not really get wood anymore, even if I am horny or looking at cute guys, this is scary to me. I sleep alright (not great, but alright). I have little desire to watch Cam or porn, but have quite the urge to M. I won't do it, I can control it but it is frustrating. I am wondering if I will be able to have sexual activity with my bf or not, and am scared.
Anxiety is less, sleep is so so, depression is definitely there. I can't believe that I have to go through this shit, but It seems totally necessary if I am to avoid/recover my erections with my bf.
I had asked a couple questions the other day but have not received an answer so hope I can post again and someone will have some input for me:) The biggest one is:
1. Is avoiding MO (without porn) a requirement always? or just during reboot? MO seems a natural thing that almost all men do from a young age and it is supposed to be "healthy".
Thank you for your input for sure!
I am still hoping to find a gay (coveted or not) gay man who is in the same boat as me to help/mentor me through the process, and to be my "sponsor"
Thank you so much for all your posts guys, it is helpful to have a place to turn. Just hoping like crazy that I can have a normal sex life again sometime soon, I have wasted so much energy on this part of life.
Take care! Stay strong.
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September 08, 2015, 02:13:48 PM »
Hey everyone!
Still at it here, having trouble starting the day everyday (getting up is hard) but once I am up, I have to stay busy. I will go to grab a coffee, go to visit a few friends, work on a "work" project for an hour, then I will go to gym for an hour...home to grab shower, and then off to volunteer for the evening. This should keep me busy...ugh!
I hate that I have done this to myself and now have changed my life permanently. I am hoping that I can pull this out of the fire and make a good happy fulfilling life from this. All I want is to have a loving partner and a real honest sex life.
I am doing so much reading here and finding that people are cutting out TV, games, internet in general, and other things. I am wondering if that is much more extreme then I need? I still watch TV, (I don't really play video games so not an issue there) and I still go on Facebook etc. I just avoid porn images. If I see one of my attractive friends on FB, I acknowledge that they are attractive and move on. I am feeling like the internet is a necessary part of life going forward, it isn't going to go away, and everything we do is largely connected to the internet for work, for social events etc. It would be very isolating to avoid it for me, and I don't know if it is an issue?
Thoughts? Help? I also asked a question about M earlier int he thread, and was wondering if anyone has any input? My thread seems pretty quiet! LOL!
Hope you all have a successful day!
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September 08, 2015, 03:34:49 PM »
Hey there,
You do what you feel will work for you. The main goal I would assume is that you want to avoid PORN. We all do what works for us.
I never really watched TV in the first place. I don't do Social Media, or belong to any other forums. All by choice.
I'm probably one of the few that still writes letters, sends real birthday and Christmas cards and has refused to go Green for bills. Every Sunday I dedicate one hour to do my bills, and yes I still write a check, lick that envelope shut, and slap a stamp on it. We pack up the dogs and ride to the Post Office to drop off my correspondence, then after, we go buy lottery and get some treats all around. That is by choice.
I was using the Internet for one main reason, and yup it was for PORN. The other reason is for my email. But other than that I don't really see a need to use the Internet, other than look up a menu, or go shopping on Amazon. Again, that's by personal choice.
As for M. I believe for the first few months, the reason that you should abstain from it is because you cause all that dopamine to flood your brain, impeding that neural pathway from mending or healing completely. I guess after that It would be OK. I have M'd, by my self and with my husband. One thing to be cautious about is the "chaser affect". This feeling of sexual urgency and arousal lingers days after a sexual experience, may lead you to fantasize about PORN and you start to yearn for PORN. I know because I have experienced it. So tread litely with M.
Seems like you are keeping busy. You have a cache of friends, go to the gym and volunteer regularly. Now take a moment and reflect how this makes you feel. Great! I'm sure. When I was PMOing daily (hourly) I was doing all my routines with just 'routine', there was no feeling to it. Now I'm in the moment. I'm actually engaged with people while I'm with them. Life is better.
Hang in there, you are doing just fine. Remember we're all in this together and we are all different and what works for one may not necessarily work for the other.
btw....I responded to your message, did you ever get it?
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September 09, 2015, 12:36:44 PM »
Hey lb,
I agree that you have to do what you feel will work for you. I personally chose no MO, Edging, P or my specific P subs. I agree with Rikkoman to tread lightly regarding M for the first few months.
Possibly because they were not triggers for me, I still watch TV, I still use facebook, I still occasionally use twitter, watch movies, etc. I do stay away from instagram to avoid P subs. I work in technology so internet use is a constant for me. But I also use the internet in general outside of my work. It is how I found all of this valuable information and started my reboot!
Hang in there. Onward and upward!
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September 09, 2015, 11:22:25 PM »
Hey buddy. I will echo what the other guys have said about the big M, from my own experience it hurts more than it helps. I'm not sure if the times I did it if I was attempting to get a release or was simply just caving in but now that I am further i to the process I am just staying away. I'm on the net and watch t.v. but I did find that I had to delete a reddit nofap page as an t hadnto many options to stray. As long as I have to google it stays away but a easy single click seems to be something I'm not able to keep away.
My wife told me to be a participant not a voyeur, I think we should all do this.
Watched "Hot Girls Wanted", all us guys should.
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September 11, 2015, 01:59:15 AM »
Hey Guys!
Wow, thanks so much for the input! I am thinking about it a bit right now, and of course haven't done anything like M as of yet. I don't think I could if I tried to be honest...there seams to be NO LIFE down there, and of course that is terribly worrying for a guy like me who has been able to M many times a week for as many years as I can remember. I can not believe how dead it seams...hardly feels like anything! I am hoping that soon, life will return to my below the belt region, and I can have some semblance of a sex life again. I guess time will tell?
I am in the process of figuring out what is going to happen with my bf, as it is on shaky ground, and although he is a wonderful person, and completely trusting and loving guy, there is very little chemistry from me towards him. I am worried this may interfere with my rewiring. When I was with guys in the past (prior to him and when we were on a break awhile ago) I was able to have a "normal" erection and was completely fine, yet with him, I have issues, and so am worried that rewiring will be a challenge with him if we are to stay together. If I am to be apart form him, then I worry I will have trouble meeting other men to date without going online. Is online dating (like match.com or POF) a problem?? I am unsure of how to proceed except to avoid P (and MO for now also).
Anyway you guys are great and thanks so much for the input. I can not tell you how much I appreciate your help, and suggestions, and support.
Love to you all, and keep fighting the good fight!
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Reply #19 on:
September 11, 2015, 04:46:08 PM »
Hey lb,
I found a good link on YBOP regarding flatline. While the exact cause is unknown and it is very different for everyone, it will pass with time. Trust me, I know the dead feeling, but I also know it gets better with time.
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September 25, 2015, 03:49:50 PM »
Hey lb,
Just checking in, how's it going?
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