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hidan still alive
hidan is still alive since kabuto diddnt resurect him, unless he is the 6th coffin that w didnt see the face of the person, which i doubt since madara was suprised to see—This unsigned comment was made by 126.96.36.199 (talk • contribs) .
- We already know Hidan is alive, that's why his infobox says "Incapacitated" instead of "Deceased". Jacce | Talk | Contributions 15:38, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
isnt hidan the second person showed on screen with the most kills first being pain—This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
- even so, which i'm not even sure what you mean what's your point? --Cerez365 (talk) 15:40, August 26, 2010 (UTC)
Reformulating start of Immortality section
Please can someone reformulate "Hidan's primary ability was his inability to die through physical means". It is obvious that a inability is never an ability. I think something like "immortal" or ability to "keep alive" would be more fitting. But I can not think of a whole sentence at the moment. Also english is not my native language, so I might make mistakes other users would not do. --DanChem (talk) 19:05, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
- I wrote main advantage for primary ability. It might not be the best solution, but I think it is better than the previous one.--DanChem (talk) 18:14, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
Left Handed
In the trivia for Hidan it should say he is left handed i mean heck killer bee's brother on his profile on the trivia it says he is left handed why not we put it for Hidan?—This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
it wasn't but on killer bee's brother profile they put the raikage is left handed but why not for hidan who is also left handed? i say they should put that on the trivia like they did the raikage because through the hole anime and manga hidan was shown always left handed doing things left handed as well as kakuzu but kakuzu dont both hands
does both hands* (Sorry my fingers are sorta clattery in the morning -.-
Hidan akatsuki ring
I have heard that in the databooks, Hidan's ring is said to be orange, however in the anime the ring looks far more brown.Erikku Kurosaki (talk) 02:35, January 5, 2011 (UTC)Erik
- I don't believe the databooks ever say anything about the colours of the Akatsuki rings. —ShounenSuki (talk | contribs | translations) 13:13, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
Hidan's Immortality and Wiki Page
Having not seen much more than the first 70 episodes of Naruto, I was skimming this Wiki when I stumbled upon Hidan. I was very disappointed when I read a fair portion of the page before there is even a slight implication of his immortality, and another paragraph or two before it was confirmed. Since his MAIN feature is his immortality, that should, at the very LEAST, be included in his background, if not in the paragraph before his background (right after, perhaps, being called a "zombie brother"?). All that's needed to make this page non-confusing for those that haven't yet been introduced to him is the word immortality being included in his background. —This unsigned comment was made by 18.104.22.168 (talk • contribs) .
- I think there used to be a mention to it in the background section. It is the first thing listed under his abilities though. Maybe we could take that first sentence and put somewhere in the background section as well. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:22, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
There is one things I dont get. It said Hidan is immortal but it said he is dieing from lack of nutrition. But if he was immortal that wouldnt matter. Would it? —This unsigned comment was made by Drog7 (talk • contribs) .
- It seems that his immortality covers only death by violence, which would kinda go along with Jashin beliefs. Maybe a non-violent death isn't covered by Jashin. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:18, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
- He should have gotten a health insurance policy.. to cover his non-violent death =/ 126.96.36.199 (talk) 00:27, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't quotes be used from the english anime and manga, instead of japanese manga translated by fans? The english version is translated by Viz, and I think Hidan's quotes sound better from it. And these are basically official quotes, so shouldn't they be used? —This unsigned comment was made by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs) .
- We use the literal translations of the original work, not from the adaptation. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:29, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
How effective is Hidan's immortality compared to the amount of physical damage he takes?
Hidan has so far been shown to have survived a decapitation, being stabbed into major organs as well as having his entire blown to bits. However in each of these cases his brain has clearly remained intact.
Naruto is a Shounen-series so all in all there can't be that much gore, but I have a hard time believing that Hidan would survive if his brain was destroyed. That means either by someone bifurcating his head horizontally and vertically a few times or by somebody taking a sledgehammer and pounding his head until only a few bone fragments and scattered brain mass remains.
Is there actually any official information as to how much physical damage his immortality can protect him from?
18.104.22.168 (talk) 09:54, December 6, 2011 (UTC)
There have been few instances where we learned what would or could happen to Hidan. In a databook interview, Kishimoto said that Hidan is still alive, but dying due to lack of nutrition, and during the Fourth Shinobi World War, Kakuzu took Hidan's absence as proof that he's still alive, with Ino commenting that they don't care how rotted he is by now. ~~
I may be drawing from fanon here, but I've always thought Hidan's immortality relied on a powerful healing factor. In just a few weeks following his beheading his neck was able to almost heal completely with the scar left behind from Kakuzu's stitching at that point barely even visible. It may also come in the form of extreme durability considering how he came out practically unscathed from Kakuzu's Wind Pressure Damage when Kakuzu used it on both Kakashi and Hidan.
If you ask me, Hidan could be able to survive even say a brain bisection so long as he was stitched altogether quick enough by Kakuzu.Mikami Teru (talk) 04:35, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
Infobox Image ?
The current one or the newer one I uploaded: which one looks better ? --speysider (talk) 10:01, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Though the second one is a bit dark, it has Hidan in a more "centred" position and has a good angle.--Cerez365™ 11:55, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- That's what I thought. The proposed image is near the time when Hidan and Kakuzu were introduced (chasing Yugito Nii). --speysider (talk) 12:01, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- As Gojita says it does lack uhm... definition but I don't see anything wrong with it in particular except for the dim lighting. I found this which might be a decent candidate as well.--Cerez365™ 13:53, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "lacking definition ?" The image I propose at least shows part of his Jashin symbol that he wears around his neck. Your image is alright but it makes him look too calm and not evil enough --speysider (talk) 13:58, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- "Lacking definition" means that when you look at the image in the infobox for example there is a lot less details or definition in his face. ¾ of the images in his article already shows part of the symbol and there's a whole article dedicated to it and the religion so I'm not too sure how that's an added benefit. As for him looking "evil" I have yet to see one on this wikia that makes him look like that except this one though I'm again not sure why we need him to look 'evil'.--Cerez365™ 14:08, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- He's an Akatsuki member and the most disrespectful of anyone in the series. The infobox image should really show that fact so people know that when reading the article, they'll already have an idea that he's evil and disrespectful. Also, as far as I know from the image policy, an image should be used as close to their introduction in the series, my one shows him really close to his introduction. --speysider (talk) 15:33, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- "Lacking definition" means that when you look at the image in the infobox for example there is a lot less details or definition in his face. ¾ of the images in his article already shows part of the symbol and there's a whole article dedicated to it and the religion so I'm not too sure how that's an added benefit. As for him looking "evil" I have yet to see one on this wikia that makes him look like that except this one though I'm again not sure why we need him to look 'evil'.--Cerez365™ 14:08, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- What do you mean by "lacking definition ?" The image I propose at least shows part of his Jashin symbol that he wears around his neck. Your image is alright but it makes him look too calm and not evil enough --speysider (talk) 13:58, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- As Gojita says it does lack uhm... definition but I don't see anything wrong with it in particular except for the dim lighting. I found this which might be a decent candidate as well.--Cerez365™ 13:53, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- That's what I thought. The proposed image is near the time when Hidan and Kakuzu were introduced (chasing Yugito Nii). --speysider (talk) 12:01, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
So how exactly does your proposed image show that he's "evil" or "disrespectful"? I don't see any of the other images of Akatsuki members showing that they're "evil" or any other personality trait they've exhibited... Articles can speak for themselves in terms of his personality, an image doesn't necessarily have to do that unless it's being dropped in his personality section. As for the image policy— as I've explained to you before— that's in terms of the person's physical appearance not their début.--Cerez365™ 15:43, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- I guess you have a point. And Hidan appeared in physical appearance at the point my image was taken from (the beginning of the Hidan and Kakuzu Arc), but the current image is taken from quite a few episodes later. To add to what I meant by looking evil, your image shows him as being too complacent and calm. --speysider (talk) 15:58, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
I mean physical appearance as in their body and how they look such as the Konoha 11 growing up or Tobi changing his mask. Drastic changes like those not an image within the proximity of their début.--Cerez365™ 18:15, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- Hidan appeared in physical appearance at the point my image was taken from (the beginning of the Hidan and Kakuzu Arc) < quoted from what I said previously. --speysider (talk) 18:22, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- ...How are you not getting this? It does not matter where the image is taken from as long as the person has not changed physically. So if Hidan decided to grow his hair out and dye it black after a while then it couldn't be used in the infobox because he changed physically. So if the image was taken from another arc (had Hidan not died) and he still looked the same, it would not matter. Zōri, Waraji, Chōza and countless others are examples of what I mean.--Cerez365™ 18:28, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- I know that, so why is my image not allowed when it meets exactly those criterion ? Is it just because it comes from the beginning of the arc where he is introduced, is it not allowed to use images from that point ?? --speysider (talk) 18:33, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- That's a question you'd have to ask whomever it was that removed it, not I.--Cerez365™ 19:03, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- I know that, so why is my image not allowed when it meets exactly those criterion ? Is it just because it comes from the beginning of the arc where he is introduced, is it not allowed to use images from that point ?? --speysider (talk) 18:33, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
- ...How are you not getting this? It does not matter where the image is taken from as long as the person has not changed physically. So if Hidan decided to grow his hair out and dye it black after a while then it couldn't be used in the infobox because he changed physically. So if the image was taken from another arc (had Hidan not died) and he still looked the same, it would not matter. Zōri, Waraji, Chōza and countless others are examples of what I mean.--Cerez365™ 18:28, March 4, 2012 (UTC)
Should we had in the apperance that he has a scar around his neck after being decapitated?--Azed (talk) 02:21, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
- Wouldn't say so. Hidan suffered many injuries, and they never seemed to leave a scar. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:48, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Konoha Headband Mistake Correction page
Source [33] (http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Hidan#cite_note-32) it's not page 71; it's 11titleYumeyo-yuki (talk) 08:26, August 2, 2012 (UTC)
Why is it he can be listed as deceased from the anime yet not [[Kabuto'--OmegaRasengan (talk) 18:27, November 22, 2012 (UTC)s Team]]?
Hidan should not be listed as deceased. The technique Kabuto used to recreate his body isn't restoring his soul to a new body, it pretty much simply made a clone. He's more like Hashirama's living clone than he is an Edoed ninja. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:26, November 22, 2012 (UTC)
What Omni says. He is kinda like those things later coming from Kabuto's belly 0_0--Elveonora (talk) 03:53, November 23, 2012 (UTC)
Hidan's hologram in naruto 135
Correct me if i'm wrong but i heard hidan, sasori and Kakuzu all in naruto episode 135 or was it deidara, sasori and kakuzu's holograms--250px50px50px 00:11, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
- In the trivia, its stated that the hologram is a possible early design of Hidan or an unknown shinobi that was partnered with Kakuzu; the latter possibly killed, if that was the case. --KiumaruHamachi (talk) 02:31, November 28, 2012 (UTC)KiumaruHamachi
Hidan's Eternal Youth
Is it possible for Hidan to have eternal youth that's associated with his immortality. Since Kakazu is 81-years-old, Hidan is much younger than him, right?
--Jon825lazery7 (talk) 15:04, March 21, 2013 (UTC)User talk:Jon825lazery7.
- What exactly does Kakazu being old have to do with Hidan having youth?--TheUltimate3 (talk) 15:37, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
You might have missed the "22" in his infobox, I guess you thought him to be possibly older than Kakuzu, yet appearing young due to his immortality. Next time make sure about things and only then make a topic, the article is here for that.--Elveonora (talk) 17:08, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Immortality isn't the same as eternal youth. The former doesn't grant the latter.--Cerez365™(talk) 16:52, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
Hidan Clone
if that weird snake Kurama clone thing has its own article, why shouldn't the snake-Hidan thing have its own? its distinctively a clone of Hidan, so there's no reason to have its info on his page; a link is all that's needed.--RexGodwin (talk) 08:37, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
- Cause it had the same personality and powers as the real Hidan?--Elveonora (talk) 10:27, May 19, 2013 (UTC)
Immortality and Stamina
So, there has been some editing as of late, mainly by Narutofan353, linking Hidan's immortality to his stamina, to the point Hidan has a complete ability section reserved for his physical endurance since late June. While I agree that Hidan has displayed great ability to function despite the otherwise deadly injuries inflicted on them, I don't not think that is correct to link those directly to his immortality, and despite Narutofan353's persistent claims, Hidan's databook profile does not in any way link his immortality to his stamina or apparent lack of fatigue. In fact, the only time Hidan's stamina is touched upon, is in his statistics, which happens to pretty much 99% of characters. I also think that his lack of fatigue isn't necessarily connected to his immortality, since we've seen other characters perform many other taxing fights. The only thing that makes Hidan stand apart is his ability to function despite injuries, and that has less to do stamina than it has to his pain resistance. Hidan's fighting style is primarily taijutsu and scythe based, and barring the top brass of taijutsu techniques, mainly Eight Gates based ones, taijutsu isn't nearly as exhausting as ninjutsu, which makes much greater use of chakra. Immortality, by definition, is the ability not to die, just that. I have already done my three reverts as per the three-reverts-rules, so I hope others will join this discussion. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 18:46, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
- I don't know, it took Asuma little effort to cut off his head. I'm not seeing any extraordinary endurance, unlike 3rd Raikage's or Orochimaru's for example. Also doesn't stamina refer to chakra level? What does that have with his immortality? Oh wait, a little "deja vu" I REMEMBER!!! Such a topic has been brought up somewhere I was present at. A person kept pushing on the very same thing, how his immortality is dependent on his stamina, because lack of nutrition will/has kill/ed him eventually, signifying that with low physical/mental energies, he dies or shi*. Not sure if I helped Omni or added fuel to the fire, but there you have it--Elveonora (talk) 21:30, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
- What the person is arguing for here is that because of his immortality, Hidan has enhanced stamina. The only effort Asuma had in cutting Hidan's head was walking up to him because of the leg injury. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:37, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
- We don't even know how his immortality works. I see no connection between being a zombie and stamina. I'd like this fan353 to explain it to me--Elveonora (talk) 21:45, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Bumping. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:09, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Listen. Immortality has nothing to do with Stamina (or even chakra for that matter) nor Endurance. It is simply the inability to die. That is all that Jashin gives Hidan. Everything else is null and void. His "Body" was the result of the immortality religion project, that didn't give him anything else but Immortality. Simple, I don't see the big fuss as anything but trivial. Whatever else Hidan can do, is probably because he barely uses chakra like anyone else in the show, and that he finds pleasure in the pain. The "slight burns" and what not are just how much he can tolerate pain. He enjoys it! But as for the combos he shares with Kakuzu, who knows? He might not have wanted to blow Hidan to smithereens. Maybe his techniques could be partial. Or maybe it could be manipulated to not give Hidan the full impact. Who cares. KotoSenju (OldUser:JaZZBaND)-Talk-Contributions 02:18, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
- Bumping. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 02:09, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
- We don't even know how his immortality works. I see no connection between being a zombie and stamina. I'd like this fan353 to explain it to me--Elveonora (talk) 21:45, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
- What the person is arguing for here is that because of his immortality, Hidan has enhanced stamina. The only effort Asuma had in cutting Hidan's head was walking up to him because of the leg injury. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:37, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
It took Asuma litte effort to cut off his head? Asuma probably has the weapon with the best cutting power in the entire manga, I invite you to reread Asuma's demonstration to Naruto regarding his chakra blades. Let's see, it also took 4 tails Naruto very little effort to cut Orochimaru in half, so Hidan's resilience is better than Oro's. Also Keep in mind that Oro only has 3.5 in stamina while Hidan has a perfect score of 5/5, which further reinforce my point, the 3rd Raikage and Hidan are in their own league. Oro's stamina and endurance is very mediocre compared to Hidan or the 3rd Raikage. He is only durable thanks to Gathering of the Snakes, having great resilience but poor stamina isn't much use.
"Immortality has nothing to do with Stamina " You failed to comprehend the point, Having an immortal body and being immortal are two completely different things.
"That is all that Jashin gives Hidan"
False. Jashin grants Hidan immortality as well as an immortal body.
Is it solely coincidental that Edo bodies also possess immortal bodies just like Hidan and in fact they also have infinite stamina? Having an immortality body = having infinite amount of stamina. This is what Kishi was implying and the fact that Edo bodies works the same way as Hidan's body stamina-wise further proves that. Even the wiki page of the Edo Tensei says that their immortal bodies provide them infinite stamina and immunity to diseases and such, shouldn't Hidan be sick after digesting all of his victim's blood? Yet he isn't. Furthermore it would be contradictory to say Edo Bodies have infinite stamina and resources while Hidan doesn't.
The 3rd databook explicitly states that Hidan has an immortal body, he's not only immortal in the sense he cannot die from fatal injuries.
If he didn't have infinite stamina and an immortal body then how comes he never fatigued after enduring so many fatal injuries? When was the last time that someone who doesn't have an immortal body endured as many fatal injuries as Hidan in a single fight without even remotely fatiguing? Never. How come Oro was exhausted and half dead after getting punched in the face once by Tsunade whereas Hidan got his ribcage crushed by two swords, got decapitated, got his entire body sewed in, stabbed his leg and more without even showing a sign of fatigue?
How come a stab in the femur could maim Asuma but couldn't even faze Hidan? As far as I know, mere immortality has nothing to do with being fazed by a stab in the femur or not.
How come he wasn't fazed by two swords crushing his lungs? According to your logic that says his immortal body has nothing to do with his stamina then he should have been half dead after that attack.
It is merely an assumption to say Kakuzu's futon was "partial" It annihilated giant trees with ease, Hidan withstood that blast and was unscathed when it was said no one has survived this before. His durability is clearly on a whole other level.
The connection between being a zombie and stamina is exactly the same as having an Edo body having infinite stamina, having an immortal body means having never-ending resources.
Point is Hidan's immortality prevents him from dying, in addition, his immortal body prevents him from running out of stamina and grants him extraordinary natural regenerative abilities. Don't mistaken immortality with having an immortal body, Hidan has both which is what makes him so durable. Narutofan353 (talk) 07:36, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- The following is the definition of stamina;
- "Physical or moral strength to resist or withstand illness, fatigue, or hardship; endurance."
- What his immortality has to do with anything, I don't know. Immortality doesn't make you more or less susceptible to pain. At the same time, by the very definition of the word, to deny that Hidan has MASSIVE stamina would be foolish at the very least. Hidan has, perhaps, the best stamina of any character displayed in the series. Its the linking it to his immortality that seems fishy to me. Immortality just means he can live forever. Stamina has nothing to do with that. He just has massive stamina and immortality. ~ Ten Tailed Fox 07:56, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
I'll encourage you to read my entire post, I have already explained this over and over. Certainly having an immortal body is not the same thing as just being immortal which simply means one cannot die from fatal injuries, throughout the manga we have clearly seen that Hidan is much more than just immortal, his body is also immortal. I have provided at least 10 examples of that fact, moreover I invite you to read the Durability and Stamina section of Hidan's page, everything is explained there.
Quoted from the 3rd databook page 267: ""The only one who can use this jutsu repeatedly is Hidan with his immortal body""
This quote is taken from the description of his curse jutsu and it doesn't merely apply to fatal injuries, only he can use it repeatedly because his body is immortal and has no limits. Just like Edo Bodies. Denying that Hidan has infinite stamina is just like denying that Edo bodies also have infinite stamina which is a fact. Narutofan353 (talk) 08:07, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
Edo Tensei have infinite chakra not stamina. If he had infinite stamina, he wouldn't need to eat. Kishi himself said that lack of nutriments will eventually kill Hidan, so he isn't immortal. Even Kakuzu said that, there's no such thing as a "true immortal"--Elveonora (talk) 17:36, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
This was a redundant statement, are you denying that Edo are immortal? Edo Tensei have infinite chakra AND stamina as well, read the Edo Tensei page and the manga, or are you telling me that what was written in the wiki is false? Or that what the manga itself proved is also false? Hidan is immortal, I don't know why you are arguing against a manga fact. Hidan needs nutriment just like every living things, Edo Tensei are dead bodies so they don't, this is rather a void argument. Narutofan353 (talk) 17:48, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, there's no link between high stamina and immortality, otherwise Naruto would be immortal. And there are two kinds of stamina, if you refer to energy then of course Edo Tensei can't tire out, they are dead. Then there's "total stamina" I thought you referred to that in relation to Edo Tensei, which is false--Elveonora (talk) 17:59, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- There is absolutely no relation to immortality and stamina. Immortality just means they can't be killed by conventional means. Edo Tensei's can't be compared to someone like Hidan, since Hidan will eventually die if he doesn't eat anything, but since Edo's are dead, it doesn't really matter if they eat or not. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:01, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
There is absolutely no connection between Naruto and Hidan since Naruto isn't immortal nor does he have an immortal body unlike Hidan so the comparison is completely void.
I feel like none of you have understood or even read my last posts where I talk about the difference between being immortal and having an immortal body. You keep talking about a relation between immortality and stamina when there is none, it wasn't even my point in the first place, it is his immortal body that grants him infinite stamina, not the fact that he's immortal. Narutofan353 (talk) 18:06, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- And you were proven wrong that his body wasn't immortal. Had he had infinite stamina, he wouldn't need to eat in order not to die. In Naruto:
- their bodies die
- their souls go to pure land
In Hidan's case, in my opinion his body was long already dead, by the time he received a fatal injury. It didn't regenerate, it's just that his soul stayed intact, hence he was zombie-like.--Elveonora (talk) 18:17, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- Can you please use the preview button when editing instead of making a line of 5 tiny little edits in future ? Thanks.
- Also, when was it ever stated anywhere that having an immortal body makes him have infinite stamina ? That's just nonsense. --Speysider Talk Page | My Image Uploads | Tabber Code | Channel 18:17, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
You were proven wrong that Edo Bodies don't have infinite stamina, I wasn't, and Hidan's body works the same way as Edo bodies do as far as stamina is concerned, except he isn't dead.
He needs to eat for his body to function like every living things, how does that prove anything? As long as he eats, he isn't going to die or tire out thanks to his immortal body. Narutofan353 (talk) 18:23, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
What do you think it means to have an immortal body? The term itself is self-explanatory, the fact that Hidan never fatigued after enduring so many fatal injuries proves my point, and the fact that Hidan has 5/5 in stamina also further proves my point. Narutofan353 (talk) 18:28, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
- The reason he could endure so many injuries was because:
- his immortal body
- the reason why he hasn't gone fatigue is because he LIKED pain, akin to sexual arousal if you will. Even if he had 0.5/5 stamina, nothing would have changed--Elveonora (talk) 18:43, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
You're merely proving my point, having an immortal body implies having never-ending resources, the databook clearly states that he is the only one who can use the curse jutsu repeatedly because he has an immortal body with no limits. And you are also wrong once again, he only likes Pain at the expense of his opponent whereas almost all of his injuries weren't reciprocal. Beside, liking Pain has absolutely nothing to do with not fatiguing, if you endure severe injuries you will fatigue because your body can't take it anymore, this has absolutely nothing to do with liking pain or not. And you are basically saying that Hidan's stamina stats don't affect his stamina? That's just nonsense. Narutofan353 (talk) 19:40, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
I am not denying that Hidan has great stamina, he does, I just think your reasoning that it stems from his immortality is flawed. Hidan can use his technique many times because he doesn't die, not because he has great stamina. Hidan's immortality is also seems to be limited to injury, since the last databook said that Hidan in the hole is dying from malnutrition. Anyone else trying to use his technique would die, because they're not immortal, just because of that. Fatigue is a great source of pain, specifically muscle fatigue, which is what Hidan seems to have a great resistance against. Overexertion of muscle consumes means overconsumption of energetic substrates, which leads to a greater quantity of metabolites. When people work out, these metabolites build up on muscle cells, such as chlorine and potassium, and that inhibits muscle contraction, leading to cramping. The build up of lactic acid (when the muscle needs ATP faster than aerobic respiration can provide, muscle "switches" to anaerobic respiration) can also contribute, though that is less certain. Hidan causes great injury to himself, resists the pain and carries own. Being immortal means not dying. Having an immortal body means not dying. Hida doesn't die because he doesn't die, not because he has great stamina. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:25, July 18, 2013 (UTC)
@Narutofan, can you stop over-analyzing it? No need to be obsessed, all we know is there.--Elveonora (talk) 00:04, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
- I am a naruto fan too ^_^, this matter is beyond its real importance and all because you are complicating something that is simple, all the features are already there, what you want us to say more? That he is the person with the most stamina? we can not do it. Dan.Faulkner (talk) 00:38, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
The databook says that Hidan can use this technique many times because his body is immortal, not just because he can't die. There is a difference between being immortal and having an immortal body. And because his body is immortal, he has infinite stamina and can basically battle endlessly. Beside, you are way over-analyzing it, aren't we discussing about a guy who can survive decapitation and still talk even without oxygen and functioning lungs? I doubt scientific explanations are even relevant in this case. Then there is the manga that comes support my points, how do you explain the fact that Hidan's healing abilities are almost identical to Edo's? He can regenerate from any injuries in mere seconds as long as his body is still all-together. You think mere pain tolerance could prevent a man from collapsing after getting his femur stabbed or having a scythe go through his guts? Kabuto even stated that it was no ordinary feat that Tsunade could still even walk after getting her muscles torn by his chakra scalpel, Hidan endures muscle damage and isn't even fazed by it, just like nothing happened, what does that have anything to do with immortality? It's the fact that his body is immortal. You just admitted that muscle damage can't faze Hidan, well that is another evidence that his body is indeed immortal and therefore he can't feel fatigue since physical fatigue is caused by muscle damage.
" Hida doesn't die because he doesn't die, not because he has great stamina"
No, Hidan doesn't die because he is immortal and he isn't affected by fatigue because his body is immortal.
"all we know is there." "all the features are already there"
Indeed, it was all demonstrated in the manga and the databook what else is there to know? I am merely stating facts. Narutofan353 (talk) 11:18, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
You're just talking non-sense. Having an undying body means one does not die, meaning one is immortal. There's no distinction between having an immortal body and being immortal, your inability to understand that grasp that eludes me. You're creating a difference, a distinction, where there is none. Hidan's healing is no where near the same as an Edo Tensei's. Edo Tensei simply break down into paper and ash when damaged and their bodies just reform. Hidan doesn't simply heal, and any severed parts need to be reattached, and remain reattached for a while so it can heal properly. He does not heal in seconds, go back and reread the chapters where his head is chopped off and Kakuzu has to put it back together. He even says not to overdo it otherwise his head would fall off. The damage Asuma did to Hidan's ear to check if they were still linked was still there when Shikamaru buried Hidan. Hidan making an injury causes pain, not fatigue. What Hidan has shown is high pain tolerance. He was even shown to enjoy pain when he's causing it to others. He's not overusing his muscles. And where did you get that he stabbed his femur, that is never mentioned. For all we know, all he hit was muscle. All he does is strike his leg, Asuma gets the damage, and even he is still walking, his leg was still functional, but as Hidan handles pain much better, he was still standing. You're not stating facts, you're making them up. Databook doesn't once mention stamina when talking about Hidan's immortality, in fact, the only thing remotely related to stamina mentioned with Hidan is his statistics. The moment you decided to add that Hidan's immortality is the source of his stamina, citing the databook as the source, you added false information, because databook says no such thing, and nothing in the manga says such thing, and if you insist on adding that when the protection of the article wears off, I will block you on account of adding false information. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 23:40, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
Are you implying that injuries only result in pain and nothing else? Injuries, especially the fatal ones also causes one's body to weaken and fatigue. Actually your inability to comprehend this fact is what truly fascinates me. Yet we have clearly seen that Hidan can withstand any injuries and not fatigue. The same goes for blood loss which according to your logic should weaken his body despite not killing him, yet it doesn't. It doesn't need to be mentioned for it to be obvious, simply look up the location of the femur in the human body on wikipedia and it was highlighted by Asuma not even being able to move with that very leg, evidence of this. IT IS physically impossible for one to move with a disrupted bone structure, except if you are Hidan, your body physically cannot function and move when your ribcage and even your spine have been completely crushed by two big swords. Once again, how does that have anything to do with simply being immortal? The manga clearly shows that the norm doesn't apply with Hidan's body, hence his "immortal body". His body has never shown drawbacks from anything.
"Databook doesn't once mention stamina when talking about Hidan's immortality"
Are you really unable to draw conclusions?
It is what is implied. I will simply not add a reference, then. Narutofan353 (talk) 21:11, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
It's a fictional story, Spiral Zetsu has done all the common stuff and yet he doesn't have any organs. Don't try to add too much weight onto that. For the lest, I don't get why you do still bother, in case you haven't noticed, no one gives a fu*k in all honesty.--Elveonora (talk) 21:16, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
You are right about that but Spiral Zetsu is a CLONE only made of DNA so he can't be compared to Hidan in any other way and my point still stands. If you don't care then don't reply, simple. Narutofan353 (talk) 21:45, July 23, 2013 (UTC)
Hidan is dead!
On the databook, it says that Hidan can die of starvation, so he would be pretty much dead now. Also, his body isn't safe from rotting away either. The bacteria would eat away his remains. The only reason he wasn't resurrected in war was because Hidan was left in the Nara clan forest where only Nara clan members know how to get in and out off since its been stated that its impossible for normal people to get out of that forest as they will get lost. Kabuto must have known this that's why he wasn't able to get DNA from Hidan. Gerronix12 (talk) 15:45, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
- His ability makes him die slowly of starvation. Since we don't know how much time that has passed in Narutoverse, we wait for Kishimoto to state that Hidan is dead. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 15:50, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
It was never implied that Hidan's immortality grants him the ability to starve slowly.. All his ability does is give him great tolerance to pain.. Gerronix12 (talk) 16:40, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
- It hasn't even been one whole day yet in the Naruto universe since Kakazu stated Hidan is still alive. So he's most certainly not dead. TheShadowCrow (talk) 22:40, August 24, 2013 (UTC)
First of all, Kakuzu has no way of knowing whether Hidan was still alive.. He's only evidence was because Hidan wasn't summoned in the war, What he doesn't know is, the place where Shikamaru massacred Hidan is a place exclusive to Nara clan.. He doesn't know that its a place where if normal people went in, they will get lost forever.. Gerronix12 (talk) 13:36, August 26, 2013 (UTC)
- Or maybe Kishimoto was speaking through Kakuzu. TheShadowCrow (talk) 23:40, August 28, 2013 (UTC)
This topic is pointless. Think of Hidan as the Schrödinger's cat. There's no way of us possibly knowing--Elveonora (talk) 00:29, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
Naruto didn't meet him
Wasn't Hidan the only member of the villainous Akatsuki that Naruto didn't meet? (obviously the ones that were alive during the series) Naruto met Itachi, Kisame, Deidara, Sasori, Kakuzu, Pein, Konan, Tobi, Zetsu, and Madara (if he counts, not exactly sure). If so, then shouldn't it be on the trivia section?--Deathmailrock (talk) 23:46, January 30, 2014 (UTC)
He met his clone which was pretty much an ideal copy of him, personality and all. Munchvtec 23:49, January 30, 2014 (UTC)munchvtec
Solo I'd say no, but go ahead if you want to, but if you do make sure to mention that he did meet the clone actually don't add it because he didn't meet any of the original membersMunchvtec 23:53, January 30, 2014 (UTC) munchvtec
New picture?
-how about using this for his infobox image? I believe it shows him way better than the current one. --Kasan94 Talkpage 14:16, May 31, 2014 (UTC)
I noticed a possible plot hole. I know that hidan said he was the newest akatsuki member (other than Tobi), but this article says that hidan was recruited by orochimaru who left right after itachi joined. And then deidara would be added after that. Is there an explanation for this or is it a plot hole ??? SageModeToad (talk) 20:12, September 6, 2014 (UTC)SageModeToad
- Where does Oro recruiting Hidan stuff comes from? Don't tell me the videogame, because if so, then Foxie is right and it ain't canon--Elveonora (talk) 20:37, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
- I can see it comes from one of the games, so I'll just move that to the trivia section. It's hardly canon. --Kasan94 Talkpage 20:40, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, it's from the new game. • Seelentau 愛 議 20:50, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
- I can see it comes from one of the games, so I'll just move that to the trivia section. It's hardly canon. --Kasan94 Talkpage 20:40, September 6, 2014 (UTC)
Info from the new naruto game
Isn't the info presented in the new naruto game's "Creation of Akatsuki" story line like completely inaccurate compared to information presented in the manga and anime??
I'm only asking because it says Orochimaru was the one who recruited Hidan, I thought it was said in the data books or something that Kakuzu kept killing his partners in fits of rage so Hidan was brought in because he was immortal and Kakuzu couldn't kill him. If that is the legit cannon for Akatsuki now, that's fine, I'm just a little confused.—This unsigned comment was made by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]]) .
- You are correct, the game is not canon.--Elveonora (talk) 10:32, September 20, 2014 (UTC)
- if it isn't cannon how come the info from the game OVA is in Hidan's background??? I'm sorry I'm really confuzzled >.<-- Jashingirl112
So this Ova depicts Hidan joining the Akatsuki before Part 1. But at the end of the Sasuke Retrieval Arc he didn't make a cameo like all the other members because he hadn't joined yet. I say just leave the content out of the article as it heavily contradicts the manga/anime. --Sarutobii2 (talk) 20:32, December 7, 2014 (UTC)
Hence the reason why it was reverted in the first place.--NinjaSheik 04:03, December 8, 2014 (UTC)
Its been over a year. Hidan is most likely deceased. If people are too stubborn to change it to that then it should be changed to presume deceased instead. Because he hasn't eaten nutrients in a while, the likely hood of him still being alive is very very small seeing how someone could've dug him up. So I guess presume deceased works. What do you guys think cuz this has been bugging me. Rachin123 (talk) 05:05, November 4, 2014 (UTC)Rachin123
- I have no problems with that, though I'm not seeing the point unless we get some kind of clue from the DB (if we get one at all that is). It makes "logical sense" though.--Minamoto15 (talk) 15:49, November 15, 2014 (UTC)
Hidan is alive untill proven otherwise.
Alright, now that the series are over, Hidan's fate was left uknown, but many seem to take the his ressurection by Kabuto as a sign of his death, fact is he wasn't ressurected he was "cloned" I mean though it's just an anime arc, the studio always make sure that the fillers won't influence the canon story, this brings us back to the Chikara arc, the reason that they couldn't make Kabuto use the Edo Tensei on Hidan was because Kishi didn't declare his fate, and you can't ressurect a living person(at least a proven one), the Chikara arc had probably marked the final appearance of Hidan, we'll just have to wait for the last databook to declare his death. --LightWyvern (talk) 16:50, November 18, 2014 (UTC)


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Welcome to our fourth MySpace Trail. This one belongs to April. Fun times. The idea: DiS introduces you to a host of exciting new artists via the starting point of a fairly established one. Easy. For example, last month's piece started with Youthmovies and ended up with the random splatter-rap of the HEALTH-tipped Captain Ahab.
This month we're kicking off with perennial DiS faves iLiKETRAiNS, a band who've steadily grown in stature over the past few years and are set to embark on a major European tour in April. Timely, yes? Yes.
As per usual, the rules are simple: we skip from top friends to top friends on each artist's MySpace page, eight times; where we wind up, we don't know 'til we get there. Click the artist names for the necessary MySpace links.
Although they've been around for the best part of four years now, iLiKETRAiNS are still one of those bands who the phrase 'cult following' was invented for. Combining post-rock-infused time signatures with lyrics depicting historical characters and events you probably won't have dwelled too much on in high school, the quintet are one of the most original and compelling bands to emerge from these shores of late. This month they're back on the road, headlining numerous medium- to large-sized venues in various parts of Europe. Miss them at your peril…
Play: Both early single 'A Rook House For Bobby' and recent album track 'Death Of An Idealist' consecutively, if only to demonstrate where they started and how far they've progressed in that time.
Video: 'A Rook House For Bobby'
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Formed in Leicester around the back end of 2004 but now (more or less) based full-time in Leeds, Her Name Is Calla are one of those bands whose sound is impossible to pigeonhole and overall direction seemingly holds no boundaries. Their earliest, acoustic-based recordings were a smokescreen for what was about to come next, as anyone fortunate enough to own a copy of last year's epic 'Condor And River' single or witness them at either of their two DiS shows in August 2007 or February of this year will testify to. With a new six-track EP (The Heritage) set for release in June, we're expecting great things from these guys.
Play: Previous single 'A Moment Of Clarity' may be about "the sound of a human spirit breaking" but we dare you not to fall in love with this band in an instant.
Strictly speaking, Glissando aren't exactly what you'd call a new band in the most pedantic sense of the word. Nevertheless, the core duo of Richard Knox and Elly May Irving have survived the breakdown of their own personal relationship to continue making some of the most poignant, haunting music we could ever wish to hear, and with a new album finally set to come out this summer on Gizeh Records, expect their name to figure in several end of year 'Best Of's.
Play: As a taster for the forthcoming long player With Our Arms Wide Open We March, listen to the desolate piano-led ballad that is 'Floods'.
Staying in Leeds (we're probably going to get accused of cheating here), the rise of local independent label Brew Records is one of those home-grown success stories you rarely hear about nowadays. Initially started up as a bedroom label by Tom Bellhouse and Simon Glacken to put out music "that speaks to us and little else", they've gradually risen into a prominent outlet for new music by way of their excellent compilation Volume 1 which featured the likes of Glissando, Vessels and Bilge Pump among its 16 tracks. Since then, they've put on some of the city's most prominent and downright ambitious live shows and been featured on Huw Stephens' radio show. The stuff that dreams are made of, then…
Play: Their debut seven-inch 'Lucky Jack' by Leeds shoegaze types I Concur is a must own for any record, or indeed iTunes, collection.
Forget the moment post-rock jumped the shark if you will; instead let's concentrate on the day some of its earliest incumbents defied pre-ordained boundaries and gained a new sense of ambition in the process. None more so than Irish three-piece God Is An Astronaut, a band who first came to prominence among the DiS collective via 2006's staggering A Moment Of Stillness EP. What sets them apart from the masses of Mogwai copyists is that they combine elements of shoegaze, electronica and even classical pieces – often in the same song – and really do sound like no other instrumental band on planet earth today.
Play: The deceptively buoyant 'Grace Descending' from last year's Far From Refuge is as good a place to start as any, but their output is so varied, and insistently dynamic, that you could pretty much enter the fray anywhere with GIAA and never want to leave.
Continuing our focus not only on the artists, but also on those who are prepared to take risks in order to get those artists and their music heard in the first place, we take up the mantle with London-based label and club night Club AC30. Essentially the brainchild of Robin Allport and his brother Nick, Club AC30 has carried on where the likes of Sarah, Subway and, more recently, Fierce Panda left off: one of the few remaining collectives fuelled by the pure spirit of independence rather than the lucre of easy pound signs. Since their first release in May 2004, they've stayed true to their shoegaze-inspired roots, putting out incendiary releases by the likes of Air Formation, Exit Calm and Model Morning in the process. Indeed, flicking through their roster, it's actually hard to pull out a dud, something which is testament to their ear for a good delay-invoked tune.
Play: Pretty much everything from the forthcoming single by The Domino State 'What's The Question' through to the quite pulsating cover of Slowdive's 'Souvlaki Space Station' by Destroyalldreamers, taken from 2006's compilation Never Lose That Feeling#2.
Video: Model Morning - 'Without You I'm Lost'
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Regular readers of DiS will already be aware of the Midlands contingent's high regard for Exit Calm, not least borne out by two sensational performances at our Nottingham DiS shows. What makes this band extra special in our eyes is that where most bands reach a certain point and just stagnate, Exit Calm actually go one step further with every live show they play, as anyone at Dingwalls on Wednesday March 26 will have seen. Although clearly influenced by records like The Verve's A Storm In Heaven and Lift To Experience's The Texas Jerusalem Crossroads, Exit Calm have already defined a sound that is entirely of their own making and in guitarist Rob Marshall possess a musician who, in time, will be held in the same high levels of esteem as many of his contemporaries.
Play: Once again, you can take your pick here as they seem to have no weak tracks in their armoury, but debut 45 'Higher Learning' and future single 'Reference' should give you an idea of what they're all about.
To finish, we're actually going home… well, to my hometown at any rate. Two years ago, any mention of the name Mint Ive would have been met with howls of derision at their lad-rock posturing. Fast-forward to 2008, add a new guitarist and drummer and a host of new ideas and it really is like watching a completely different – and ultimately brand new – band for the first time. Although they've been playing sold-out shows across the city for a good 12 months now – as any Midlands DiSser will remember from their astonishing October 2007 headline performance – they are now starting to gain recognition in other parts of the country too, as recent and forthcoming shows with the likes of Frightened Rabbit, A Place To Bury Strangers and The Domino State suggests. We envisage great things for this quartet any day soon.
Play: They recently recorded three tracks with Matt Terry at Vada Studios in Stratford-Upon-Avon. Our favourites at this moment in time are the melancholic chime of 'False Idols' or spaghetti western shoegaze of 'Fearing' but we may have a new one tomorrow…
Next MySpace Trail: May. 'Til then, enjoy and lates…


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Not Ashamed of the Gospel
From Gospel Translations
By John Piper
About Evangelism
Part of the series Romans: The Greatest Letter Ever Written
Romans 1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
Today we will take the "gospel of God" and our praises of God and go to the streets. We will walk and sing and pray and shout our faith and our love to all who will listen. Which will raise for many the question: Am I ashamed to do this? So the Lord seems to have ordered the timing of our series of messages in Romans so that today's text is Romans 1:16, and in particular the beginning words: "I am not ashamed of the gospel." This verse and the next one are the very heart of the book of Romans – a kind of thesis statement of the book. So we will spend at least three weeks on verse 16.
What Makes a Person Feel Shame?
Today we will focus on the words: "For I am not ashamed of the gospel." You see the link with verse 15. The reason he is eager to preach the gospel in Rome is that he is not ashamed of the gospel. Let's begin with the general question: What makes a person feel ashamed? Consider some examples.
1) Suppose a boy brags to his friends that he can outrun the skinny new kid in the neighborhood. So the kids set up a race – say, once around the block. Both boys walk the route and see where all the obstacles are and where the turns are made. Then they line up. The neighborhood kids are all out watching. Someone says, "Ready. Set. Go!" And the bragging boy is simply left in the dust. The skinny new guy finishes 40 or 50 yards ahead of the braggart. When that happens it is very likely that the braggart feels ashamed. He feels that he has made a fool of himself.
2) Or suppose someone you don't like at school has a dad who is in jail. And suppose that you make fun of him for this and call him names and point out to people that his dad is a crook. And you boast that your dad is a successful financial officer at a major bank. Then one day you go home to the terrible news that your dad has been arrested and charged with embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars. The next day you don't even want to go to school because you are so ashamed – both of your father and yourself.
3) Or suppose you put a lot of stock in how you look – having your hair just the way it is supposed to be and your clothes in perfect taste. You are invited to a party and you check with people whom you think are reliable advisers about what to wear and how to look. But when you get there you realize that you are totally wrong in the way you dressed. You are so embarrassed that you don't want to go into the room.
4) Finally, suppose you have a part in a play – just a small one perhaps, because you are nervous and not very good at acting. Maybe you have two lines at some key point in the play. You memorize the lines. The play begins. Your heart pounds out of your chest. The audience is large. Everyone is doing beautifully and setting a high standard. Your moment is drawing near. And at the exact moment, you freeze. You try to say the two lines. Everybody is looking at you. But you can't do it. Someone whispers to you your lines. To no avail. Somehow they get around you. You run off the stage, and want to run off the planet, you feel so ashamed.
We all know what it is to be embarrassed – or to be ashamed.
What would keep you from being embarrassed or ashamed in situations like that? Well, one answer would be that stronger legs would have kept you from losing the race and being put to shame by the new skinny guy. And a more honest dad would not have embezzled, so you wouldn't be ashamed of him. And with better counsel from your friend you wouldn't have dressed all wrong for the party. And better nerves in front of a group would have let you remember your lines and speak them with excellence. In other words, you could avoid being ashamed if you and your family and friends could always keep yourselves in the best light and never let anyone feel negative things about you.
The Gospel Causes Shaming and Gives Freedom from it
Now when Paul says in Romans 1:16 that he is "not ashamed of the gospel," is this what keeps him from being ashamed? Does he escape being ashamed because he keeps himself in the best light? No. Exactly the opposite. Believing and preaching the gospel constantly put Paul in a bad light. It constantly stirred up other people to shame Paul. He gives us a list of ways that he was shamed in the ministry of the gospel (in 2 Corinthians 11:23-26):
. . . in far more labors, in far more imprisonments, beaten times without number, often in danger of death. Five times I received from the Jews thirty-nine lashes. Three times I was beaten with rods, once I was stoned, three times I was shipwrecked, a night and a day I have spent in the deep. I have been on frequent journeys, in dangers from rivers, dangers from robbers, dangers from my countrymen, dangers from the Gentiles, dangers in the city, dangers in the wilderness, dangers on the sea, dangers among false brethren . . .
In other words, Paul's way of not being ashamed of the gospel was not that he could keep himself in the best light or that he had enough savvy that people always liked him and approved what he did. Look back at Romans 1:14, "I am under obligation [I am debtor] both to Greeks and to barbarians, both to the wise and to the foolish." When Paul looked out on the huge world of unbelief in his day he felt a debt to all. He didn't look with utter disdain on the pagans of his day. Beware of doing this. Our conservative lifestyle has been so politicized in America that we slip easily into feeling disdain rather than debt to unbelieving people. Not so with Paul, though he hated sin. Rather, he felt so overwhelmed with undeserved grace that he knew himself a debtor to all – Greek and barbarian, wise and foolish.
But did they want him to pay them his debt? Do the unbelieving neighbors and colleagues around you want what you have to give? Not many. In 1 Corinthians 1:22-23 he says, "Jews ask for signs and Greeks search for wisdom; but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness." Paul had a debt to pay to Jews and Greeks and barbarians, but most of them – as today – did not want his message of love and grace and hope. It was foolishness and a stumbling block.
So, before we can see in Romans 1:16 that the gospel is the basis of Paul's freedom from shame, we see that it was first the basis of his being shamed. The gospel does two things: it brings out shaming behavior in those who will not believe it. And it gives freedom from shame to those who do believe it.
Paul knew both. He was like Jesus. Jesus was abandoned by his friends, falsely accused of blasphemy, beaten with rods, ridiculed and taunted, stripped of his clothes, scourged with a whip, tortured in public, and made to look like a fool as people hollered at him on the cross: "You who saved others, save yourself."
What Did Jesus and Paul Do with the Shame Poured on Them?
What did Jesus do with all this shame – this shaming behavior? What would you do with it? Hebrews 12:2 tells us what he did with it: "For the joy set before Him [he] endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God." Jesus despised the shame. What does that mean? It means that when shame began to threaten his heart and to tempt him to abandon a clear and obedient witness to God and to the gospel, he said to shame, "Shame, I despise you. I will not yield to you. I will not give to you any satisfaction. You may do with me whatever you please – in the short run – but I will not obey you or follow you or give in to you. I despise you, shame, and will not let you rule me."
How could he do that? How can you do that? Hebrews 12:2 says he did it "for the joy that was set before him." Shame was stripping away every earthly support that Jesus had: his friends gave way in shaming abandonment; his reputation gave way in shaming slander; his decency gave way in shaming nakedness; his comfort gave way in shaming torture. So, if his present supports were all being stripped away in shaming persecution, how did he not capitulate to such shame? Hebrews 12:2 says, he set his heart not on the supports of the present, but on the joy of the future where very soon he would "sit down at the right hand of the throne of God."
Though he was being shamed, Jesus was not ashamed of his God and Father. Why? Because God had power to save him from death and give him all-satisfying glory at his right hand forever.
Now, I say Paul was like this. What did he say in Romans 1:16? "I am not ashamed" – in spite of all the cultured Greeks who mock me as preaching foolishness and all the unbelieving Jews who deride me as preaching a false Christ – I am not ashamed of this gospel. Why? "For it is the power of God unto salvation." In other words, this message of Christ crucified for the sake of sinners, of Christ raised from the dead as the Son of God in power (1:4), of grace given freely to those who will trust in Jesus – this message will bring all who bank on it to everlasting salvation.
Shamed, but not Ashamed
How then do you overcome feelings of shame when you are shamed for believing and sharing the gospel? Answer: ponder the power of the gospel to bring forgiven sinners to final, everlasting joy. Nothing in the world can do this except the gospel of Jesus Christ. Judaism (that stops short of Jesus), Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam – they do not have a Savior who can solve the problem of separation from a holy God through sin and offer sinners hope by grace through faith and not works. Only one message saves sinners, and brings them safely into the presence of God – the gospel of Jesus Christ. It alone is the power of God unto salvation.
Therefore, Paul would say – Jesus himself would say – suffer, yes. Be misunderstood, yes. Be shamed, yes. But do not beashamed. You will be shamed, but you need not be ashamed. Because the message of God's saving work in Christ is the only final triumphant message in the world. Short-term pain. Long-term gain. For the joy (of salvation!) set before you, take up your cross, follow Jesus, be shamed and despise the shame.
In closing, let me put a point on it for what's left of the '90s. How do people shame you today for believing and sharing the gospel? It's not exactly the same as the way they did in the '60s. I heard Alistair Begg say recently that his unbelieving friends criticized him in the '60s because they did not believe that the gospel was true. In the '90s they criticize him for claiming that there is any truth. In other words, today the shaming is not to say that you are wrong, but to say that you are arrogant if you think others are wrong. Not that you have bad thinking, but that you have a bad attitude. Not that your worldview is defective, but that it is divisive. The greatest weapon of shaming today in the world of religious claims is the accusation that you are intolerant and therefore mean-spirited and egotistical.
To that we must steadfastly respond: It is the most loving thing in the world to tell the truth about the way of salvation. If Jesus has said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father but by me" (John 14:6), then, for the sake of love, we must pay our debt to the world, and despise the shaming of the "tolerant" '90s and tell them, "There is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:12). The gospel of Christ alone is the power of God unto salvation


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Pope Francis Named "Person of the Year" by World's Biggest Gay Magazine
By Julio Severo
Praises keep knocking at the door of Pope Francis, who was named "Person of the Year" by The Advocate, the world's biggest homosexual magazine.
It is the second tribute that the pope has received in a week. On December 11, he was named Time magazine's "Person of the Year."
In its headline, The Advocate highlighted Francis' statement, made during a June interview: "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with good will, who am I to judge?"
"Pope Francis' stark change in rhetoric from his two predecessors... makes what he's done in 2013 all the more daring," The Advocate editors wrote, noting that both John Paul II and Benedict XVI had been listed among the magazine's "Phobie Awards" for anti-gay stances during their papacies.
By "anti-gay stances," The Advocate also sees the mere attitude of helping someone who does not want to be a homosexual any longer. Two years ago, this gay magazine criticized me for my stance of supporting Lisa Miller, a woman who was converted to Christ, left lesbianism and today is a runaway from the US "justice" system which wants to deliver up her biological daughter to her former lesbian partner, who has never been converted and is determined, even with no biological relation, to take Lisa's daughter.
I was attacked just for defending a mother and her daughter.
Why then did The Advocate, instead of attacking, put the pope on a pedestal? By the same reason Leonardo Boff, of Liberation Theology, praises him. By the same reason that he is in favor with the Brazilian Protestant Left, which said, "Pope Francis is a promise of better days."
All the Left is seeing it. Pope Francis is a promise of better days — for the Catholic, Protestant, secular and homosexual Left.
In this spirit, the mainstream media have highlighted approvingly the pope's nomination of "Person of the Year" in the world's biggest homosexual magazine.
With information from The Advocate and USAToday.
Portuguese version of this article: Papa Francisco é escolhido como "Personalidade do Ano" pela maior revista gay do mundo
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I spend so much effort to find this. I am not sure whether it is true.The scene with a man doing tai chi...I suspect it is Lou Lim Ieoc Garden from Macau, next to Hong Kong
I'm guessing it's a statue of soldiers (epaulets on the left shirt). As for the helo, could it be tied in to the rescue caps? There's a variant of the blackhawk called the seahawk.
Here is a zoom in on the Lou Lim Ieoc Garden intro cap. Maybe someone can read it.
I find some additional information...If what I find is true, there should have been an art exhibition held there.The chinese wording is the theme of that exhibition.It started from 18/11/2006 to 17/12/2006. According to what I find, it is closed on Monday.Based on the information, I think the teams arrived on 12/12
So the helo is probably from Hawaii, then. An old liberty ship on Shipwreck Beach in Lanai (I can't link to it directly). Kmz attached.
Got It! Equestrian statue of King Jan III Sobieski, victor at Battle of Vienna (1683), trampling a vanquished Turk.Łazienki Park. Warsaw, Poland
The Golden Boy is a recycle from Moscow and is a Close up of the statue of Peter the Great upon his ship which is located in the Moscow River nerar the Kremlin.
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There are not many things more precious than sitting around the dinner table with your family every night. Whether you have a young bub, multiple young children, teenagers or all of the above, dinner time is the main event and it has to please everyone!
Putting together something nutritious and delicious that is also easy to prepare is just one of the many challenges parents face on a daily basis. And that's not even including the added extras like birthday parties, entertaining and other special occasions. So here we've gathered all kinds of tips, information, family friendly recipes to make things a little easier come meal times.
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We understand that feeding a whole family and keeping everyone happy is no easy task, which is why we've taken the effort out and only sourced easy to cook family recipes for you. It will take at least some of the stress out of it! We also have a section on quick healthy food, which includes a mixture of recipes for the family and recipes for grown-ups.
You'll find everything from family dinner recipes and kids party food to Easter and Christmas recipes you can enjoy with the kids. We've also included some more grown-up recipes in case you can't handle another bowl of spaghetti bolognaise!
Getting the kids to eat their veggies
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- Try making their day time snacks healthy fruit and vegetables and don't be afraid to get creative to make them more interested. For example, don't just hand them an apple – chop up a variety of colourful fruits and make fruit kebabs!
- Instead of lollies and chocolate chop up some crunchy carrot and celery sticks and serve it with some hommous or salsa.
- Teach the kids about why vegetables are important and how they're beneficial to their bodies. If you associate a positive action with the vegetable, they'll start to understand why they need it.
- Let the little ones help out with the cooking. Depending on how old they are they can help chop or peel veggies, or if they're a bit younger they can help stir the pot or throw some ingredients into the pan!
- If they're really fussy just grate up some some veggies where they can't see them. This works well in any sauce!
- Always eat the same foods in front of them and lead by example. If mum and dad aren't eating veggies, why should they?
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When you're busy taking care of a family it's so easy to fall into the habit of eating exactly what the kids eat. Unfortunately, Vegemite sandwiches and spaghetti bolognaise aren't always the best foods for getting in shape! Take the time to prepare food just for you. It doesn't have to be a major effort and can often just come down to skipping the mashed potato in favour of more green veggies or saying no to melted cheese on top of dinner. Check out our weight loss information and recipes for some more ideas.
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Jamie Lynn Spears has come a long way since she made headlines almost a decade ago due to an issue that still remains controversial in the United States: A teen pregnancy.
Britney Spears' younger sister's life with her now 7-year-old daughter Maddie and husband James Watson is documented on the new TLC reality special "Jamie Lynn Spears: When the Lights Go Out."
The 25-year-old "All That" and Zoey 101" alum had made headlines and drew a lot of criticism in 2007 when at age 16, she announced she was expecting a baby — and out of wedlock.
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"The child star who got pregnant," Spears says on the special. "A lot of horrible, nasty things were said."
"I look back now and I'm like, 'Oh my Gosh,'" she adds, wiping away tears.
Britney Spears Gets Emotional Introducing Jamie Lynn Spears at the Grand Ole Opry
Spears has occasionally talked about her teen pregnancy in the press. She told Glamour in 2012, "Like many young girls...I was really scared to go to the doctor. And I was on a Nickelodeon show, and it [felt] especially embarrassing to ask someone to put me on birth control." She also said Maddie's father, ex-boyfriend Casey Aldridge, was her "first love," adding, "Since the day I saw him, I just wanted to marry him and be with him forever and ever."
In a 2013 interview with E! News' Ken Baker, Spears recalled being surprised to find out she was pregnant, adding, "This made no sense and I didn't understand it and I was young."
"I'm not just a child star," Spears says on the TLC special. "And I'm not just someone's sister. And I'm not just a teen mom."
The country singer's parents, Jamie Spears and Lynne Spears, also appear on program and discuss her emotional journey.
The special also documents her country music career and features footage of her performance at the Grand Ole Opry this past March. Her sister Britney introduced her onstage.
"Not only is she beautiful and extremely talented, she's my little sister," Britney said.
"Jamie Lynn Spears: When the Lights Go Out" airs June 26 at 10 p.m. ET on TLC.


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This is a cracking example of why a simple service definition isn't enough to ensure a decent quality of service. After all a bath is something that holds water, in which you can sit down, so these enlarged sinks match the basic criteria. They hold water, and if I get in one I get wet.
Now if when I specific a hotel room I could say
Bath.length > 1.2m
Bath.depth > 50cm
Thus giving a detail precondition on what I consider most important in a hotel room. I could also specify the details on the gym, to make sure its not just two crap machines in a tiny room.
Effectively here I talking about the importance of preconditions from a client perspective when selecting and invoking a service. A more business analogy would be when thinking about acceptable response times for a service, where if they don't respond in time you don't care about the result. Its about how the client can place restrictions and contracts onto the service.
The normal way to do this is via parameters on a method, but a more effective way would be via a contract applied to the call which could be managed as a policy independently of the invocation, i.e. changing acceptable response times.
Thus invocations should be about a negotiation between client and service to determine if the required conditions and QoS can be met, if they can't then the invocation is invalid, something the client should have as much say in as the service.
Seriously though, what is with US hotels? The beds are huge, the baths are tiny.
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Rockstar Games divide the Grand Theft Auto series into three distinct universes. These universes are completely separate to each other, no characters or storylines can ever pass from one Universe to the next with the exception of entertainment, celebrities, radio personalities, vehicles, in-game products, businesses, and some locations.
However it can be argued that all of the stories from the GTA III era, could have still taken place the HD Universe, however slightly different to accommodate for the different settings. An example of this is the existence of Grove Street and Grove Street Families in Grand Theft Auto V. Franklin Clinton states that the Grove Street set of the Families all died or became rich CEOs a long time ago, a direct reference to the events of Grand Theft Auto San Andreas twenty years earlier. There are also minor things like Niko Bellic being able to acquire Claude's outfit from Playboy X's mansion, however something minor like this can just be considered and Easter Egg.
|2D Universe
|3D Universe
|HD Universe
|GTA 1 Era
|GTA 2 Era
|GTA III Era
|GTA IV Era
|GTA V Era
GTA Advance is a 2D game, but is part of the GTA III Era and thus the 3D Universe.
A universe can be considered a completely separate 'canon' of places, people and events that do not exist in the other universe. Locations that appear in multiple universes are completely rebuilt, rather than just updated. A previous universe would be like a mythical universe that never really existed. However, some things do exist appear in multiple universes, including company brands, vehicles and weapons.
Games being in the same universe means that they exist on the same planet, and theoretically characters could occur in multiple games across that universe. However, that does not mean that many characters will do so, nor that the games are similar or closely related at all.
Comparison to Eras
Universes are closely linked to Eras, which are logical groupings of the games based entirely on their number (i.e. GTA III starting the GTA III Era). It is possible for universes to contain more than one era. The 2D Universe contains the GTA 1 Era and GTA 2 (which is its own separate era). The HD Universe contains the GTA IV Era and GTA V (which is starting its own era).
The difference is that games within an era are very closely related, often with many characters and storylines appearing in multiple games. Also, the visual style and most features are replicated within an era.
In contrast, games within the same universe (but in separate eras) might be completely different and almost totally unrelated. The futuristic GTA 2 is not similar to the 1960s GTA London games.
An era can be thought of as a group of closely-related stories (like a trilogy), told through several games within one universe. Different eras may be set in the same universe, even with a bit of crossover, but they are completely separate stories with different styles and a different feel.
As GTA V and GTA IV are in the same HD universe, that gives Rockstar the ability to continue some characters or even storylines into the new game, but Dan Houser has said this would only happen sparingly. GTA V is a completely separate game, with different features and a very different feel - it is not "GTA IV: Los Santos", and is not part of the GTA IV Era.
Dan says that no one before GTA IV will be in it – the move to HD created a schism in this fictional universe, rendering CJ, Tony and co, as mythical characters from a bygone era. But will we see stories from the previous game looping into this one? "I think that might be too mannered," says Houser. "Nico had a particular kind of story and we're trying to make this different. We might allude to things from that world, but we didn't want it to feel like, well, here's the opposite of an immigration story – we wanted a fresh take on what it means to be a criminal in this world of hyper-real Americana".
Interview with Dan Houser in The Guardian
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Shown at the UK Toy Expo, Hasbro will be releasing a kid-sized helmet with some canned sounds. "I'm Boba Fett, you may have heard of me," is one of five phrases spoken by the toy.
See starwars.com for the pictures, but credit goes to jedinews.co.uk for taking them in the first place.


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Astro-LOA Flash: It's the last day of the dark moon before all is renewed, the perfect time to relax, find ease and focus on what you want for this moment. As you do, you open pathways to the future.
The first New Moon after the Solstice sets the tone for the entire year.
Remember you get to decide how your respond to everything that comes your way. Be it old family dynamics, new romantic interest, brilliant creative dream or a job/living situ that has to change, you set the stage by how you think of it.
With Mars just into powerhouse Scorpio, Mercury Rx in Capricorn, Jupiter on the North Node trine the new moon, and Venus just over Saturn in Sagittarius, energy is all fired up! Use New Moon to fuel your self-respect and 'bigger perspective'. Appreciate every little thing, and everyone in your life. Relationships are your teachers right now. As Richard Idemon said:
Relationships are the mirrors held up to us by the gods.
Let's gaze into those mirrors with reverence and respect.
NOTE: The New Moon in Capricorn is likely to be in the same natal house as transiting Mercury Rx. (that's the area of life you are focused on right now). If you have one thought or feeling that isn't serving you, use clear intentions to spot, sooth and release. Letting go of resistance is like lancing a wound. Relief, relief, relief!
As with all new moons, the setting clear intentions part is empowering. Jeannette Maw says that life follows our thoughts, so when we don't get specific and deliberate with those thoughts, who knows where we'll end up!
The power is in training our attention toward what we want, which we can do by setting the intention for it in advance.
Where are you training your attention today?
Sign by sign tips to help you gain full support from this dynamic New Moon.
ARIES: This New Moon spotlights your core values but it's not enough to simply know what they are. You want to express them out into the world. Ask what it is you represent and be that every time you step outside your door. Career Action time!
TAURUS: As your world gets bigger the possibilities for expansion augment as well. The focus for you is on new horizons and going places you have never been before. Travel, meditate, learn, teach, wander in the woods. Expand awareness time!
GEMINI: The New Moon activates your house of 'other ppl's money' and the desire to transformation everything. You are letting go of old ways of thinking about yourself and embracing the new. Remind yourself of that! One door closes, a new one opens time!
CANCER: The New Moon rises in your 7th house of relationships and the the intentions you set now will pave the way for your future. Hint: Begin with yourself. That's the partnership that counts! Be there for yourself, and shower your life with LOVE time!
LEO: Everything you do in your day to day routine counts! This is where the New Moon works for you and the key to manifesting the life of your dreams begins here, with soap and water and the kitchen sink. Appreciate every little thing, task and being in your life time!
VIRGO: The New Moon in your 5th house of play, recreation and creative self-expression has only one thing to say. Go have fun! Just do it. Your homework is to have the flipping time of your life. It's go about the business of enjoying being alive time!
LIBRA: This New Moon is in your house of secret feelings and it's going to awaken all kinds of magic. Eyes open. Be ready! Any thing and everything you do to improve the home right now improves you too! It's secrets, synchonicities and sweet dreams time!
SCORPIO: For you, the New Moon rises in your 3rd house of 'mind' and it is your thoughts and how you direct them that are poised for change, challenge and focus. This is your power center. Use it! It's say it as you want it to be, in this red hot moment time!
SAGITTARIUS: The New Moon in Capricorn can make it easy to be distracted with pragmatic concerns. This isn't 'bad' though if you look deeper at your 'resources' you'll see your true wealth is your untapped talents. Use them! It's revel in your talents and gifts, no matter what time!
CAPRICORN: This is your personal New Moon so take a moment to reflect on how your life is progressing. What goals are you setting? What have you obtained? Care to raise your sights? It's 'the sky's the limit' and I'm blasting through the glass ceiling time!
AQUARIUS: The New Moon rises out of the land of dreams and the sea the unconscious mind. It's about letting go and allowing everything, as opposed to trying to 'make it happen'. It's release the notions of 'push' and go where the breeze takes you time . . .
PISCES: The Capricorn Moon lights up your house of friends and like-minded others. Explore opening to new friendships in your life and also allowing some connections, once close and sympathetic, to drifting away if they will. It's 'be grateful for the ebb and flow of life time!
Have a wonderful NEW MOON!
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While covering an auto show at the Tushino Airfield outside of Moscow, a reporter was struck by a sliding drift car. Consider this a lesson in how not to hoon your car.
The reporter was hospitalized with a concussion. When people like Ken Block say "please hoon responsibly," this is what they're talking about.
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Diving & Marine Conservation Volunteering in Thailand - Monthly Updates
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Conservation in Thailand - Monthly Update September 2009
Despite having our lowest ever number of volunteers (no more than 3 and down to 0 when Elliott decided to take some time off and travel to Singapore), September was one of the busiest month for staff.
We had two big projects this month: a buoy deployment project and International Coastal Clean-Up.
The former required a lot of preparation in order to locate appropriate sites to install the buoys and prepare the buoys (the rope should not be too short or too long!). On the 10th of September, Elliott and Lek teamed up with volunteers from Kontiki Krabi, he Royal Thai Marine Police, The Hat Nopparatthara National Park and members of the Governor's Office Krabi Province to install mooring buoys around the AoNang local islands.
We also participated in the International Coastal Clean-Up as we have every year for the last 4 years along with hundreds of thousands of volunteers around the globe. Last year we contributed 2,000kg to the 3,402,000kg that were collected however this year our massive effort only yielded 312kg...
Despite getting 300 participants, mostly school children from 5 local schools but also 30 soldiers from the Thai Navy and many local dive masters and tourists, we did not reach our target this year as we got hit by one of the strongest tropical storms I have witnessed.
Luckily, we had other activities organised for that day such as the exhibition of artworks that the children submitted for our 'Say No to Plastic' poster competition and a raffle with many prizes kindly donated by local businesses and which allowed us to raise nearly 10,000THB for the project Aware foundation.
We also had refreshed our Projects Abroad exhibition for the event (yes, the one made out of blue PVC pipes and fishing net!).
Diving this month consisted mainly in reef monitoring, marine salvage, and the buoy project. A total of 13 kilos of debris were collected during dives at Koh Doh, Si, Ha Talu and Mae Urai. The best sightings included: blacktip sharks, stingrays, octopii and a comet (fish).
Click here and see our graphs of the amount of rubbish the volunteers have collected from the reefs and beaches here in Ao Nang since 2006.
Marie Goarin
9th October 2009
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The BPS-1001 (with transport case) Blepharo Micro-Pigmentation System is simple to use and allows to apply pigmented lines, dots or to completely cover a larger area of the epidermis with color pigments. Performance under local anesthetic is optional.
A broad variety of color pigments are available (see separate color chart). Additionally, the pigmentation handpiece can be exchanged for a dermabrasion handpiece. This allows the economically efficient use of the system for eyelid, eyebrow, lip, areola, and scar pigmentation as well as for dermabrasion.
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The Algonquin-Lake in the Hills Fire Protection District this week completed the reorganization of its administration by hiring a Chicago firefighter with 34 years of experience as the new assistant chief.
Peter Van Dorpe, who is in charge of the training division for the Chicago Fire Department, is scheduled to start with Algonquin-Lake in the Hills on Oct. 1.
He is set to earn $111,750 a year.
According to fire district documents, 20 people applied for the position and four were interviewed.
Van Dorpe's responsibilities will include strategic planning, budget administration, data analysis, policy development and emergency preparedness coordination, among other things.
Algonquin-Lake in the Hills Fire Chief Patrick Mullen said Van Dorpe has broad experience in the fire protection industry, including in fire suppression, firefighter training and budget management.
The fire district also recently hired Cristiane Randall as the management services director. Randall started work Aug. 26 at an $84,818 annual salary.
Her job includes human resources responsibilities, managing employee benefit programs and risk management, worker's compensation administration, informational services and data management, supervising occupational health, processing payroll, and participating in labor-management and contract administration.
Randall previously worked for the village of Hanover Park in the human resources department. She also has experience in network administration, programming and web design.
"We expect great things from them," Mullen said.
The additions of Van Dorpe and Randall were the final moves of an administrative restructuring at the fire district.
Mullen was the permanent replacement for former Fire Chief Kevin Rynders, who resigned January.
John Gaughan, former assistant chief of administration, did not have his contract renewed at the end of April and was replaced by Randall.
The assistant chief position has been vacant since the middle of last year. The position was held by Tim Littlefield, who now is the administrative captain.


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A good thermostat allows you to regulate the temperature of your home and maintain optimal comfort. An outdated thermostat can often be problematic because it offers less versatility. If you haven't done so already, buying a digital thermostat is a must. With multiple settings and easy programming, you can set the desired temperature in your home with little to no trouble.
Currently, we offer the Honeywell Vision PRO 8000 Thermostat as a featured product, along with several other digital thermostats. The Honeywell Vision PRO 8000 features a touch-screen, menu-driven programming, and a real-time clock that keeps time during power failures and updates the time for daylight savings. The programming feature on this digital thermostat is one of its most cost-saving and energy-conserving components. You will be able to program your thermostat to shut off when you're on vacation and to turn on before you arrive home, which can save you money.
Installing a new digital thermostat may seem daunting, but it's quite simple if you follow these instructions.
- Read through the manufacturer's instructions.
- Turn off the breaker or fuse panel that powers your thermostat.
- Remove your old thermostat.
- Remove the cover plate.
- Remove mounting screws.
- Carefully remove wires and keep note of which color wires connects to which terminal. Also, tie the wires together carefully so they do not fall behind the wall.
- Remove the thermostat base by removing mounting screws.
- Install the new mounting plate with new anchors, usually provided by the manufacturer. Position the plate over the old anchors or drill new holes if the plate will not fit.
- Connect the wires. If you kept note of where the colored wires fit, this will be easier.
- Attach the new thermostat to the base and insert batteries.
- Install the cover (this might need to be mounted with screws).
- Turn the power back on and test the thermostat.
- Follow the programming instructions provided by the manufacturer.


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Yoga Storytime
- Date: 10/21/2019 11:00 AM - 11:45 AM
- Location: Library
409 Fourth Ave.
Longmont, Colorado 80501
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- Mondays, 11 to 11:45 am
- Join Valerie, our NIA and Creative Movement-certified librarian, for an interactive and playful 45-minute storytime, integrating stories and songs with yoga poses and movement.
- For families with children of all ages. Children 8 and younger must be accompanied.
- In the large Meeting Room.
- No registration is required.
See all our great storytime programs here.