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|Arthur Shappey. A serious man, with a serious announcement, and a serious face.
Wednesday, 14 November 2012
Cabin Pressure IV - prepare for boarding.
Posted by John Finnemore at 6:03 pm
1399 comments:
- fetche-lavache said...
This news really brightened my day!
- 6:12 pm
- Anonymous said...
So excited! :D
- 6:16 pm
- Miss Pear said...
Huzzah! Fantastic news!
As a newly-employed person (though not on Mondays) the Sunday-ness of the recording dates is a relief! Now *waits for BBC Comedy Sausage Machine to put up tickets*
- 6:17 pm
- Aimee said...
Jumping for joy!
- 6:18 pm
- Sparrow said...
This makes us very very happy. Thank you Mr. Finnemore for this wonderful news!
- 6:18 pm
- Anonymous said...
Literally screaming with happiness! Thank you Mr Finnemore! And to all the cast and productions who make this radio series possible!
- 6:20 pm
- Emma Burrows said...
OMG, OMG, OMG! *stalks BBC website*
- 6:20 pm
- Anonymous said...
*worldwide fandot party*
- 6:20 pm
- Anonymous said...
Yay I'm so happy! The lemon is in play...
- 6:21 pm
- Anonymous said...
hyperventilating, soooo want a seat, see you soon
anon cumberbitch of hull :-)
- 6:23 pm
- Anonymous said...
Oh this is good news!! Going to watch this site and the BBC site like a hawk now... my sister and I would love to see this!
- 6:25 pm
- Anonymous said...
Mr. Finnemore, you brightened my day considerably with those glorious news of yours. Thank you so much, Sir! :)
- 6:26 pm
- Anonymous said...
so happy, thank you thank you captain dinosaur or jo-ohn finnemore, did you write them interchangeable??
still hyperventilating, hull
- 6:26 pm
- Anonymous said...
Best news ever! Even if we don't all get in, we can still throw a hell of a line party. I'll bring the lemon.
- 6:26 pm
- Anonymous said...
YEAH!!!! Brilliant!!! Maybe we can get those pressing questions answered.
Will Martin get a paycheck?
How tall is Martin and what does his hairline look like?
What is going on between Caroline and Hurk?
Will Mr. Burling ever get to enjoy his Talasker whiskey?
Where is the latest airfield pub?
- 6:27 pm
- Verity said...
Even though I love Cabin Pressure, I'm in two minds whether to brave the nightmare of ticket applications and potential queueing madness. I've really enjoyed the recordings that I've managed to attend, but knowing that the large volume of scary Cumberbatch fangirls that populates the listening audience will increase again this year, I'm not sure I can brave the madness of queueing from stupid-o'clock in the morning to get a seat! (Admittedly, I am also something of a fangirl, but I try so hard not to be a scary one and most of them scare me!)
- 6:28 pm
- Katri said...
The BEST news!! I was flying back from London today and listening to the 3rd series of CP. For umpteenth time...
- 6:29 pm
- Anonymous said...
Fantastic news!! can't hardly wait! Best of luck!
- 6:31 pm
- Anonymous said...
Thanks so much for these brilliant news! :-)
- 6:32 pm
- Anonymous said...
Why must I be a Northerner? Stuck up here when I just want to be at a CP recording :-( Oh well, I am super excited for January now!
- 6:33 pm
- brilliant said...
- 6:36 pm
- brilliant said...
- 6:37 pm
- the Dubar said...
Brilliant! My friends and I just finished season three and we've been trying to survive on reruns. Our college life has literally been eating popcorn and listening to Cabin Pressure (On rare occasions, there will be homework tossed in there).
- 6:44 pm
- Anonymous said...
Yay! But I can only make one of the dates (being actory the other days) But the one I can do (6th Jan) is the day after my birthday! What a birthday prezzie that would be! I'll be stalking the BBC site now and even if the BBC Gods don't smile on me at least I get CP on the radio as a late birthday present. :-)
Dawn x
- 6:46 pm
- Anonymous said...
I'll fly from Italy so see you so I better not to be left out of the door! Let's hope I'll be lucky enough.. I'll bring cookies
- 6:52 pm
- Anonymous said...
I'm an American and I'm still beyond excited for this. I may have shrieked a bit louder than I intended.
Guess I'm getting plane tickets...
- 6:53 pm
- Anonymous said...
Be still my beating heart. :)
I'm excited that season four is now closer to become a real thing but black tendrils of fear start creeping in as we get closer and closer to 'Z'. What happens then?!?!?!?
Please say we go back to 'A' again. Or MJN in Spaaaaaaaace.
- 6:59 pm
- Trina Dubya said...
I'm absolutely delighted, and I look forward to series four!
- 7:00 pm
- Min said...
Woo hoo! I'm so happy about this news!!
- 7:01 pm
- consultingstudent said...
I don't care that I'll be travelling a long way, if, big if, if I get a ticket, I will be there! :D
If not, cannot wait to hear it once again, although the other episodes are classics, I still laugh awkwardly to myself on the train, bus, tube and car...
Good luck with the writing of it!
- 7:03 pm
- Sarah said...
I knew spending time on the Internet rather than writing notes in my ar haeology class would be worth it. I'm one of the (very) many Americans absolutely besotted with your show, and now I can't quite contain my excitement. So, uh, hooray!
Also, I'll wait patiently for more from your Souvenir Programme. Very patiently. Very,very patiently.
- 7:05 pm
- Kyla said...
Wonderful! Even though I'm all the way in America, I listen to the rebroadcast of your show all the time on internet radio. I look forward to Series 4 very much! Can't wait!
- 7:08 pm
- E. Rabbit said...
I am cursing the universe for my poor vacation planning that has me back in the States 3 days before the fist taping. Damn and double damn.
Oh well. I'll just have to wait until it starts airing, and then I'll have something to thank the universe for again.
- 7:14 pm
- Sherlock Kittel said...
Best news ever, paramount and brilliant :)
- 7:17 pm
- Anonymous said...
Yay! Great news, and thanks so much for interceding with the ticket department on our behalf. The queueing situation is way ot of control for popular shows, I gave up when the queuing time exceeded the time spent in the actual recording! Seems to me that almost everyone given tickets * does* turn up...
- 7:22 pm
- Anonymous said...
Great news, even though I won't be in London at any of these dates... is there any possibility you could fetch me with a private MJN flight? I am definitely a better cook than Arthur, promised! No? Thought so. I might consider going to the local zoo instead (in a yellow car), watch some otters and les bears polar and drink some delicious traveling lemonade.
Yeah… I am a bit too excited at the moment. Wednesday will become my favourite day of the week (I normally dislike Wednesdays, nearly as bad as Mondays…). Thank you!!!
- 7:29 pm
- Unknown said...
Can't wait!
- 7:30 pm
- Anonymous said...
Brilliant! I will actually be in London for one of the recording days, so I really hope I can get tickets!
- 7:36 pm
- hell is other people :3 said...
There may have been happy tears. In fact, I'd be lying if I said there weren't. Lots of happy tears.
- 7:37 pm
- Tata said...
If you listen carefully, you can hear the sound of hundreds frantically tapping 'F5' on the BBC ticket application page.
- 7:42 pm
- Anonymous said...
So very happy to hear this. Congratulations and full steam ahead! - Wendy
- 7:48 pm
- Melody Wilde said...
You've just made at least two people here in the United States incredibly happy. Thank you. And please excuse any typos, because it's hard to type when you're jumping up and down with joy.
- 7:48 pm
- Alison said...
Best. Holiday. Gift. Ever.
Thank you!! And thank you for making it happen, I hope you have a fantastic time writing & recording!
- 7:49 pm
- Elasis said...
Brilliant!! pity I'm not in the UK to attend the recording... :'(
is there any other session around, say, beginning of April?pleaaaaase.....
- 7:55 pm
- Picturetalk321 said...
I am SO EXCITED. This is more exciting to me than the new Bond, the new Sherlock or even the new Lord of the Rings (sorry, I mean Hobbit).
- 8:04 pm
- Anonymous said...
Best of luck to anyone applying for the tickets! Wish I could too but alas no UK address, thank goodness it's radio so I'll eventually get to join in on the fun when the show airs yay! Onnea esitykseen!
- 8:15 pm
- Nicole Bukowska said...
It's soo brilliant!! I'd love to see it ..but I'm actualy live in spain.... so I can only send all that happines what we feel for that news, from all fans what I know here, to you MrFinnemore ^^
- 8:15 pm
- Daedalus said...
Talk of tickets reminds me of Spike Milligan's BBC Commissionaire sketch:
Man: I have a ticket here for a show.
Commissionaire: That's not good enough! You can't come in here until you've been kept standing in the pouring rain for three hours, so no matter how bad the show is, you're grateful!
Man: Well I have been waiting for two hours, and I have got pneumonia.
Comm: Oh good, you can come in!
- 8:17 pm
- Anonymous said...
does anyone else think John finnemore us hugely foxy in that picture
- 8:24 pm
- Anonymous said...
That..is quite a depressing prospect for what might be ahead of those who will get tickets :'D
- 8:24 pm
- Jen said...
Yayyyyyy! =D
- 8:27 pm
- Cadie said...
I am so very excited by this news. Wish I could go to the recordings but there is NO way I would be able to get to London for it. Looking forward to seeing what you have in store for MJN Air this season! :D
- 8:32 pm
- Anonymous said...
Canadian fan here, thrilled to my toasty warm socks!
- 8:33 pm
- Anonymous said...
So happy
- 8:33 pm
- Annie said...
Absolutely the BEST NEWS ALL DAY! Time to break out the silly hats everyone (make sure to add the appropriate amount of gold braid)!!!
- 8:33 pm
- Anonymous said...
@ anon 8:24 PM
Oh god yes. He looks like James Bond.
- 8:34 pm
- Laimelde said...
Woohoo! Fantastic news to wake up to! Thanks Mr Finnemore!
- 8:37 pm
- Unknown said...
oh god oh god oh god. i am sooooooooooooooo excited.
- 8:45 pm
- LynneM said...
That's really great news,John. Well done you:richly-deserved.So glad the cast remains unchanged.
- 8:58 pm
- Pivli said...
This is great news! I'm looking forward to broadcasting. It is a pity that it is for me so far from Prague ...
I wish you good luck!
- 9:09 pm
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- 9:09 pm
- Pipit said...
- 9:30 pm
- Anonymous said...
@ anon 8.34, he's handsome and funny. perfect combo.
- 9:31 pm
- Mokky said...
Only recently discovered your BRILLIANT series, and practically know the scipts by heart. Can't wait for the new series. can't wait,can't wait,can't wait,can't wait....
- 9:40 pm
- Helen said...
Really hope I will see you at the recordings, Mr Finnemore! Either way, I am so excited to have a date on this :)
- 9:49 pm
- KasaKeira said...
Squeee! I can't wait! Any chance we could get a preview of the country names or are they super secret?
- 9:58 pm
- Cristina said...
"if you're keen, keep an eye on the site."
Two days later, when the BBC site keels over from thousands of fingers colliding repeatedly with the F5 key...
In other words, HURRAY! :D
- 10:03 pm
- Anonymous said...
because if I started, where would I stop?
Well, I'm still hoping you'll decide to take over the world one day ...
Thanks for letting us know. It would be fantastic to get tickets, but even if I don't, YAY!!! NEW CABIN PRESSURE!!! And just in time: I know the scripts off by heart and need some new material.
It might amuse you to hear that the social awkwardness of family gathering with distant cousins was recently much alleviated for me on finding an nth-removed relative was also a CP fan. Our opening conversation consisted entirely of quotes!
- 10:05 pm
- Anonymous said...
I'd give anything to be there, but London is too far away for me :*( Still, I'm really looking forward to the new series. I prefer Cabin Pressure over most television comedy, that's for sure!
- 10:06 pm
- Hikaru said...
Amazingly amazing new~~s! Can't await! <3
- 10:10 pm
- Amaya-san said...
Yay! The happiness in my soul knows no bounds and my face is hurting from how much this news is making me smile.
- 10:18 pm
- Kathy said...
This is the best news I've had since Obama was re-elected!
Well...one is slightly more important that the other but it's right up there.
And your suggestion to not travel long distances for a chance to attend a taping I'm sure would include Denver, Colorado so I'll just have to be with you there in spirit (and wait patiently for them to be offered on Amazon for download). :-)
- 10:23 pm
- Jinnie said...
Fantastic news! I really can't wait until January! I live in New Zealand but I'd go to London just to watch the live recording!!!
- 10:25 pm
- Anonymous said...
Yes, that is fantastic news :D! It looks like geography will once again prevent me from attending one of the recordings ... but I will be waiting impatiently for January 9th! :) So excited!
- 10:27 pm
- Anonymous said...
This are FANTASTIC NEWS!!
Can't wait for the new series.
I'm so happy!!
Greeting from Argentina!!
- 10:30 pm
- Lucianne said...
This is great news!I have listened to CP soooo many times. My favourite episodes I almost know by heart (Fitton, Paris, Ottery St Mary...).Can´t wait for the new episodes!!!
I´m not sure if we can come all the way from Germany. (But we already had a lovely evening in the Kilburn Priory in April).
Have you ever thought about doing a (I don´t know if that´s a proper English word for it) live-audio-play? In Germany there is a popular audio play: "Die Drei Fragezeichen". You can buy it on CD here, there are more than 150 episodes. The cast did a live-tour two years ago: There were just the three speakers, some supporting speakers, a foley artist and some microphones on a stage. It was not like Theatre, they just read their texts into a microphone. It was an old episode and everybody in the audience(including me)knew most of the text by heart. 11.000 people came to see them in Hamburg and even more came to Berlin! It was great and very funny! Maybe something like that only works in weird Germany. But I thought...so many people would love to come even from very far away to see you guys reading a text into a microphone...
I think there are enough people to fill a biggerish theatre or concert hall...AND you could even sell the proper amount of tickets! Like a Priory Engagement, only bigger. Please?
- 10:54 pm
- Savani said...
Oh wow, this is wonderful news! I can't wait to listen to the new episodes! All the best with the recordings.
Greetings from the Netherlands!
- 11:15 pm
- Bethany said...
That's brilliant, Skip!!! I actually am sooo happy right now :D like I can't even. !!! GOOD LUCK writing/recording!! I can't WAIT!
"so many people would love to come even from very far away to see you guys reading a text into a microphone...
I think there are enough people to fill a biggerish theatre or concert hall...AND you could even sell the proper amount of tickets! Like a Priory Engagement, only bigger." <-- I LOVE this live-audio-play idea!!! It would totally be a hit!
- 11:54 pm
- Luna said...
That's BRILLIANT! Now I have to scout out the BBC tickets website.
- 11:58 pm
- Gordiana17 said...
Brilliant! ;)
Only the dates are unfortunate for me...
I'll try for 6th January, though. And if I'm lucky, I will be there!I don't mind travelling to London. Never!
- 11:59 pm
- Kris said...
*dies* YAY! congrats on finishing the writing that was killing you and on your fourth season.
John, honestly, that photo? That's just not right. Now we all want to find Arthur in some airport bar on layover and ... ask him for a drink. :D
- 12:06 am
- Beth said...
Excellent. Thanks for letting us know so we can keep an eye out, I've already been tracking my emails daily for notifications but it's good to have a heads up! Much appreciated.
- 12:34 am
- Narrelle Harris said...
*performing the happiest of happy dances at the moment*
*but inserting a slightly sad dance move of woe that, not living in England, I don't even get the slimmest of slim chances for a ticket to the recording*
*and then the happiest of happy dances resumes*
In related news, the latest couple of David Mitchell Soapbox rants had me crying with laughter. Thank you both for the genius of a) Digging up Richard III only to rebury him and b) Discovering I'm not the only one who does 'I forgot my phone' and 'just missed the train' pantomimes for people who neither know nor care.
- 12:37 am
- Sabrina said...
I am exploding in excitement right now. Eeeeeek.
- 12:58 am
- Unknown said...
Not only is this the best news I've heard in weeks, but I must say, you look very dashing in that photo.
- 12:58 am
- Anonymous said...
+a billion, Carly!
- 1:17 am
- Unknown said...
I really love this show! It'd be epic to get a ticket and the 6th of Jan one is my birthday! That would be an amazing b-day surprise!!!
- 1:19 am
- Anonymous said...
It's now even more mystifying how anyone, from a pony club or otherwise, could ever dump Arthur. Dear god, have mercy.
- 1:19 am
- Anonymous said...
In the hope you answer questions you get through here: What are they like with wheelchair seats?
- 1:42 am
- Anonymous said...
YAY!!! Waving happily from Orange County, California.
(Arthur's "serious face" is cute as all get-out.)
- 2:05 am
- Anonymous said...
I live in CA and the weather is horrible but this totally brightened my day<<or made it cooler...I HATE so-Cal weather....
Just texted everyone I know about this....My phone is vibrating more than it did in the last year,,,
- 2:17 am
- Danielle said...
Yup, told the people I got into this crazy radio program that a 4th season is coming Jan. 9th - they all simultaneously screamed. One individual actually sounded relieved - the endless quoting of seasons 1 through 3 is finally tiring us out. SEASON 4 YIPPEE!!! Terrific news to a relatively boring day. :) Makes the new year look very inviting. Have fun recording!!!!!!! And right, writing... what a dreadful task, I feel for you!!
- 4:17 am
- Dixiebell said...
I am thrilled!!!!
- 4:25 am
- Anonymous said...
Oh, how I wish we Yanks had more comedy brilliance like this across the pond!!
- 5:20 am
- Anonymous said...
Psst - For every excited fan who wants to re-listen to the whole series before the premiere, it works out perfectly.
If you begin with Episode 1 on Nov 15 (today) and listen to a new episode every three days exactly, you'll end by listening to the 19th and final episode on Jan 8, just in time for the new series!
I'm starting right now. Happy listening!
- 5:21 am
- Suze said...
This is the best news I've heard all day! I wish I could roll the dice on going to the recordings, but, sadly, work and living across the pond make this impossible. I will just have to eagerly await the January broadcast. YAY!!!!
- 5:49 am
- Pauline Laing said...
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay from Melbourne!
- 6:40 am
- Anonymous said...
Hooray! I'm about 6000 miles too far to seriously consider going to the recordings, but I look forward eagerly to whatever you come up with, sir. It's sure to be brilliant. :)
- 6:49 am
- susannegoga.de said...
This is so amazing! Will have to listen to all episodes to prepare for the now ones. There are quite a lot of fans in Germany so if ever you should be thinking about doing a tour … :-D
- 7:35 am
- Anonymous said...
I love how on tumblr the fans are equally excited over the news and fangirling hard over this new picture, because wow John, looking good!
- 8:22 am
- Katrine said...
I've been waiting so long for this, and FINALLY!!! This saved my week!!
I'm so excited!!
As we say in Norway: WOW
- 8:23 am
- Anonymous said...
This is brilliant! 2013 seems to be a much more promising year!
- 8:24 am
- Andrew Bossom said...
So... the BBC overbooks, just like the airlines do? How nice of them to heighten the authenticity of the experience.
- 8:37 am
- Sommertwinkle said...
This news makes me otterly happy! Thank you so much for this seriuos announcement, Arthur - you did, in a word, brilliantly.
And I've no doubt you will do so in all future developments as they develop.
Yay Season 4!
- 9:48 am
- Sheena said...
As I'm in Dublin, I won't be going, but - how many people were turned away last time? Maybe there could be a Facebook page or something to organise a TAFCP (Turned Away From Cabin Pressure) Party. And it could be later joined by the NTAFCP (Not Turned Away From Cabin Pressure) Party. That way, instead of meandering off into the gloom to feel rejected, people could get drunk and quote at each other.
- 9:59 am
- Norah said...
...And I won't be in the UK for the first three weeks of broadcasting. Sometimes I hate my life.
Bring forth the paper streamers and the lemon meringue! Let's PARTY!
- 12:59 pm
- GG said...
I live close enough for the travel to be easily doable, but I am nervous of the (very lovely, I'm sure!) more enthusiastic audience members, so my gift to those who are applying for tickets is - I will not apply! That makes your chance of getting one just a little bit better! :-)
I hope you manage to get all the writing finished, John, but if there are any gaps, you could play some soothing music or perhaps some aeroplane noises...
- 1:16 pm
- Anonymous said...
I am currently quite depressed and nothing really seems to touch me, but I honestly have to say that this news made me smile for the first time in ages. Really, this might sound pathetic, but I feel like I have something to look forward to come the New Year now.
So, thank you, John, for the eagerly-awaited news; I cannot wait to see what the MJN crew get up to next! :)
- 1:16 pm
- Anonymous said...
HOORAY!!! And yet - I curse my terrible luck because of work and the Channel I can't make it to any TAFCP or NTAFCP parties. Therefore, January 9th it is!
Good luck to all the applicants and have fun!!!
- 2:20 pm
- Alex C said...
How thrilling:-)
Will definitely try to get tickets.
Just a thought - but while you have everyone there and the studio etc - any chance of a Xmas special?
Not wishing to appear greedy or anything, it's just that I am - so that's how if comes across. (Excuse the Bill Hicks rip-off)
- 3:17 pm
- KathyNerissa said...
This has made by week! What an awesome way to banish the post-Yuletide blues.
- 5:11 pm
- KathyNerissa said...
This has made by week! What an awesome way to banish the post-Yuletide blues.
- 5:11 pm
- Emily said...
I have just fainted and been sick on myself. Twice.
Only John Finnemore has the power to make me do that and actually feel EXCITED after it!
- 6:25 pm
- Lesley-Anne said...
In the immortal words of 7yo son in reaction to the news: AWESOME!
- 6:50 pm
- Christine said...
I am so excited by this news that I might go and play 'the travelling lemon' by myself to celebrate.
- 7:25 pm
- Anonymous said...
Hurrah! And a virtual tipple of Talisker to you all!
- 8:02 pm
- Sarah (The other one) said...
Wonderful Brilliant news Mr F... thanks for your hard work writing, and previewing, and thanks for letting us know in good time to watch the website.. I am going to apply for all the dates and hope to win one in the lottery. I dont care how long I have to queue. I will bring a deckchair and imagine I am watching Douglas washing the BMW.
I feel great sympathy for those who live too far away to make it to the recordings..
Jelly Babies to manual...
- 10:32 pm
- Anonymous said...
I wouldn't mind traveling a long way to be at a recording if such luck would find me in the form of a ticket and a good spot at the queue. I just wish tickets to UK wouldn't be so darn expencive :-I
- 10:55 pm
- Mandy said...
Oooh, this is such good news! Am jumping up and down (in my head) with excitement. Will be waiting impatiently by my iPlayer for CP to stream - the only way I will be able to hear it, other than hopping on the next plane from Australia... thank goodness for the Internet. Bring on the New Year!
- 12:15 am
- Anonymous said...
Is is just me or is Arthur attempting a sultry face in that picture? I now have some disturbed to go with my excited.
- 1:06 am
- JazzySatinDoll said...
So what you're saying is I shouldn't organise flights from Australia just to see your show recorded.
- 1:51 am
- Meg said...
This is the happiest news that I have ever heard.
- 2:28 am
- LittleBlackBird said...
Hooray! I'm so excited, can't wait to hear it the next year! ;)
- 4:35 am
- Anonymous said...
Hmmm... already booked to be in London (from Australia) in Dec - will be there for the 16th. If anyone gets a spare ticket for that date I'd love you forever :-D I will be applying for tickets although I suspect the time zone will be a handicap - I bet they appear online as I am asleep...
- 5:25 am
- Optimum Health Now! said...
Another happy Melburnian. CP has brightened our journeys to and from the hospital considerably. \0/
- 8:10 am
- beth.sobel said...
Do you know yet when they'll be available for sale? Also, hooray! Cabin Pressure is absolutely my favorite radio show; you're an exceptional writer and actor.
- 9:49 am
- Hannah Littleton said...
One word: BRILLIANT!
My brother and I will be watching the Tickets site eagerly, fingers crossed we are lucky enough to get tickets! If so, see you there! If not, hope all goes well at the recordings John!
- 10:49 am
- Laura G said...
Ah, the mixed emotions. I can't manage any of those recording dates, but at least that means I don't have to worry about not getting a ticket - or indeed a seat. And hoorah for Wednesdays in early 2013. Thanks Mr F, you make us all very happy.
- 11:51 am
- Gay Sagabaen said...
Yehey!!!! That's is truly an awesome news. Too bad I can't get to see and hear the show recorded. The odds are greatly not in my favor. It's not just the tickets, which makes the odds lesser, but also the distance. I'm continents away from the UK.
But anyway, I'm glad CB will be back. I can't wait for January 2013 to come. That is if the world doesn't end before 2012 ends. :)
- 12:31 pm
- Anonymous said...
Nooo, I'm gonna be at work on all those dates *sob* Hope the people that can go have a great time! I was lucky enough to see two recordings last year and they were brilliant!
- 1:31 pm
- Anonymous said...
Brilliant brilliant BRILLIANT! Especially the cast unchanged bit, wouldn't be the same if anyone new was in it.....hoorah! xx
- 1:39 pm
- Anonymous said...
OMG I realy hope I get tickets!! ARGHHHH This cheered me up because I was going to have a dull friday evening but now I'm overexcited and hyper.
In the words or Arthur Shappey, "BRILLIANT!"
Beffy x
- 5:09 pm
- becca_mcgee said...
Fantastic! Good luck with the writing, look forward to hearing it in some format! :-D
- 6:54 pm
- Ellie P said...
Did you MEAN for that photo to look so smouldering and gorgeous? :D
Glad to hear this news and that you're all coming back! Thanks for the update and good luck with writing!
- 8:56 pm
- Beana said...
If the next series is half as funny as some of these posts it will be hilarious. I detect just a hint of hyperactivity, hysteria and, in at least one case, nausea. Best keep the audience away from too many fizzy drinks and crisps beforehand or it could get messy.
Incidentally, I got rather unnecessarily giggly the other day when I received a giant dark chocolate Toblerone.
Good luck and a following wind for the remaining days of sweat and tears writing before recording starts. :))
- 9:44 pm
- Lucy said...
Brilliant! I am now grinning so hard my face hurts a bit. I can't wait until January! I have all the serieses (is that a word?) on cd and can't wait until I can get the new one to listen to over and over again.
Giggled at the thought of Arthur being a serious man - oh Arthur, who are you trying to fool in that photo?
Good luck with the writing!
- 10:20 pm
- Veej said...
Terrific news, thank you! Expect screams from both daughters when I tell them...
- 12:31 am
- Rygel16th said...
Thank you. Thank you.
Captain Dinosaur.
- 3:23 am
- Anonymous said...
Absolutely fantastic! Best show on the radio!
Props from the US of A!
- 4:24 am
- Gordiana17 said...
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- 10:30 am
- Unknown said...
I'm so glad to hear about the new series of Cabin Pressure!
I thought I'd let you knew that I was listening to the 6th episode of John Finnemore's Souvenir Program, doing boring household chores, and as the anti-PC man began insisting he wouldn't recycle until all the Chinese do, I was outside my apartment in Beijing while my neighbors and I sorted our recycling.
It made it that much better for me, though I did look pretty crazy, laughing apparently at nothing.
Anyway, I'm really excited to hear more of your writing soon!
- 10:59 am
- Anonymous said...
You, Sir, have just given me my perfect graduation present - I'll have to hand in my Master's thesis quite exactly on the day of the first broadcast. No better way to celebrate an academic achievement :) :) :)
- 3:20 pm
- Orin said...
I´m soooooooooo looking forward to it.
Since I "discoverd" Cabin Pressure in January this year there was not a single day without it (I´m not even kidding ;) )
A big THANK YOU to everyone who is involved in this brilliant show!
- 6:03 pm
- Anonymous said...
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited ! just one quick question,how much time before the recoring do we have to get at the studios ? thank you
- 6:25 pm
- Trendy65 said...
Looks like series five will have to be recorded at Wembley Stadium!
- 11:41 am
- Anonymous said...
looks like the tickets are now up on the BBC site.
- 2:16 pm
- Anonymous said...
Ticket applied for...fingers crossed for an early Christmas present care of BBC!
- 3:01 pm
- Anastasia said...
And as usual you can't apply if you are not from UK. Unfair. Yeah...
- 7:13 pm
- Elliot said...
Just applied! Hopefully I'll get a chance to go!
- 8:12 pm
- Anonymous said...
Just applied, keep my fingers cross. And if it works out hopefully I don't have to work.
- 8:40 pm
- Britta said...
Really glad hearing/reading this! WOW!! Will follow your kind advice and NOT try to get a ticket... Would LOVE to see pictures or a nice video from the recordings later on, though... Hoping you have a heart for us poor foreigners ... ;-)
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- 10:55 pm
- ClosetDiva (aka Kate K) said...
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I'm on the wrong side of the Pond to attend any recordings, but will definitely be looking forward to the new series!
(Confession: I keep listening to CP on my morning commute and can highly recommend it as the best way to keep smiling. Especially if, like me, you're not a morning person.)
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- cora678 said...
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So on my way to work I am not the lunatic anymore that snarls at cars or bikes that dare to overtake her and yells at every pedestrian that carelessly strolls on the cycling track. No - now I am the lunatic that talks to herself in a strange language and burst into fits of laughter for no obvious reason. Well, kind of improvement... somehow... ish.
Thanks CP!
And thank you John for the phrase 'Go away. Go away now. Go away fast!' which is very helpful when the old grumpiness strikes again. And soon there will be more! Hoooray!!
Reeaally excited regards from Germany,
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- 11:27 pm
- Tracy said...
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- 8:00 pm
- Anonymous said...
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- 8:55 pm
- Anonymous said...
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CP fans left queueing out in the cold --or stranded in the wrong countries or continents--should besiege the BBC to film and air the CP radio recording sessions with its devoted audience and then make radio history showing it on countless TVs,
Mr Finnemore: Please as a consolation prize for the multitudes who cannot make it into London for the recording, would you please draw a full-sized label for 25-year old Talisker Scotch that we can print and paste on the cheap scotch bottle of our choice? You might do a back label too, with information about the fictional distillery, which I imagine in the part of the Catholic Orkneys.
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--if not the Nobel Prize for Economics, for your now immortal "restauronomic" explanation of the Eurocrisis . . . quoted by heart by faculty and students in the halls of the LSE as well as the Harvard School of Business. . .
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- 11:27 pm
- Kaye said...
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No tickets available for those of us willing to make the trek from the US? I'm heartbroken!
- 7:47 pm
- Anonymous said...
Dear Anonymous on holiday in Sweden
Sorry to disillusion you but Talisker is not fictional! It is produced by the only Single Malt Distillery on Skye, so Western Isles and presumably Protestant? It's near a place called Carbost on Loch Harport. Lots of pics on Google Earth. The 20 and 25 year olds are indeed around the £200 per bottle mark, so no wonder Douglas is keen to purloin it.
- 10:54 pm
- Alex C said...
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- 1:07 pm
- OB said...
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The website is still open for people applying for tickets even though it said it would close at 10pm yesterday. It's been open for so long I've little hope left of getting a ticket as ssssssoooooooo many people will have applied. Looks like I'll have to plan something else for my birthday :-( Looks like people going to next weeks show won't be given much notice if they've not even closed it yet.
Dawn x
- 1:08 pm
- Anonymous said...
Yes, it is still open even as I write at 5.32 pm GMT. I think my chances of getting a ticket are diminishing by the second and not much notice for those lucky enough to get tickets for Dec 2nd. Get on with Beeb and put us out of our misery.
- 5:36 pm
- Anonymous said...
Fantastic news, so looking forward to the new year. Well done pulling it all together.
- 8:49 pm
- Korean fan said...
Brilliant! ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ btw Can you upload the recording vid? I can't go England....I live Korea...
- 8:04 am
- Anonymous said...
Hmm, apparently people have emails regarding the first 2 shows. Not I, sadly :-( If anyone has a spare for the 16th (The only day I'm in London from Australia!) please get in touch (@dr_mikki on twitter, or loitering here stalking John :P ) and I promise to repay you in dinner/drinks/poor attempts at CP character impersonations :-D
- 9:27 am
- Unknown said...
Noooo really? I didn't receive anything either :-\
Well, I know it's a veeeeery long shot, but if someone has a spare for the 2nd of December... :D
- 10:20 am
- Hannah Littleton said...
I haven't heard anything yet. It would absolutely make my year if I get tickets, but I imagine loads have applied! Good luck to all of us, and congratulations to the lucky ones, whoever they are!
- 11:40 am
- Sarah (The other one) said...
Heard nothing yet, and perhaps the odds against rise as the applications still open ... :¬( Looks like I am not lucky this time. Would happily supply flask of coffee and company in the queue for anyone on any date with spare ticket.
Fingers still crossed
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- 6:59 pm
- Unknown said...
I've applied for the Jan show, have heard nothing but not giving up yet!
- 11:58 pm
- Nadia said...
I'm so excited!! Thank you, Mr. Finnemore!
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Me to. Hoping there's still hope for us *fingers crossed*
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Policing fails Oakland. Oakland continues to pay the social and economic costs of the legacy of the Riders, and feel the antagonism generated between community members and cops through policing projects such as gang injunctions, sweeps, raids, and stop and search. The impacts of investing in quick fix policing approaches rather than in the kinds of programs and services that have been proven to stabilize communities in the long term, such as community centers, illustrates a stubborn, blind dedication to misguided solutions.
Councilperson Libby Schaaf, for instance, continues to cling desperately to outmoded, police-heavy approaches despite clear, consistent messages from a wide range of Oakland residents about what they want instead. In an email blast to her district residents on May 31, Schaaf herself reminds Oakland that when it comes to policing in our city "there are a plethora of dusty plans sitting on shelves" but then goes on to implore us to "stick to the plan".
Although it's been said over and over, it obviously bears repeating—Oakland cannot police its way out of poverty. No revolving cast of police chiefs, or board rooms full of consultants, or shelves full of policing plans will prevent policing from failing Oakland. It's high time that Oakland invests in its future by investing in its youth, its families, and its neighborhoods rather than continuing to invest in policies and practices that destabilize and separate our city. As West Oakland Councilperson Lynette McElhaney stated, "Make no mistake about it we are going to spend money on these kids. We will either spend it in a proactive way, through youth centers and positive programming, or we will spend the money on arresting them, incarcerating them, putting them in juvenile hall or God forbid to treat them in emergency rooms because they've fallen victim to violence."
Building community…from the ground up
Yet while the City makes desperate moves that destabilize and separate our city, every day we see the hard and true work of community members using all the resources they have available to build a better, healthier city. The West Oakland Youth Center is not yet a dream deferred, it is a possibility. All of us continue to build. We're coming off the heels of an amazing Malcolm X Jazz Festival, in its 13th year of bringing thousands of Oakland residents together in celebration, art, politics and education. Next weekend, on June 8, the Stop the Injunctions Coalition will be having a Saturday workday in the thriving Community Garden at 28th and Foothill. We look forward to planting possibilities together in what seems like an impossible time, continuing to grow into our vision of what Oakland can be.


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LA Clippers Star Blake Griffin — Hunk of the Day [PICTURES, VIDEOS]
Blake Griffin of the LA Clippers is one of those basketball players who's really good at basketball, really tall and really hott. You don't find that in a lot of players... or do you? Perhaps Griffin's good looks simply overshadow everyone and everything else around.
Even though he's only 22 years old, Griffin towers over everybody at a whopping 6' 10''. He looked even taller next to the makeup artists and video producers at ESPN when he posed nude (yes, nude!) for the 2011 Body issue. At first, Griffin was a little nervous taking off his clothes for the camera, but he was really surprised by how well the photos turned out.
Really? You were surprised, Griffin? You're one of the hottest basketball stars on the court today, and you were surprised you looked so good naked? Please!


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Several recent surveys on religious attitudes in the US have confirmed the rise of anxiety among Americans towards Muslims and the grafting of that unease onto the political spectrum. Data from the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life and the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI), in addition to the results of Robert Putnam and David Campbell's new book, American Grace, all point to American feelings towards Islam as an emergent factor shaping the contours of US political alliances and rhetoric. This growth trend, as Dionne and Galston write for the Brookings Institute, can be captured in responses to the question of whether Americans believe that Islamic values are compatible with American values. In the PRRI post-election survey, for example, two-thirds of Republicans answered this question in the negative compared to only thirty percent of Democrats. Newt Gingrich and Sharon Angle's warnings about Shari'a law, mobilization against the Ground Zero Mosque, and support for the Oklahoma referendum banning any future implementation of Shari'a law are all recent manifestations of these sentiments from the American political right.
It would be interesting to probe the growth of these fears and anxieties a little more- are they mostly a function of the insecurities produced by the links between Islamism and international terrorism as John Green of the Pew suggests? Or do they have more to do with the non-Judeo-Christian otherness of Islam, as Putnam and Campbell suggest? Assuming a top-down institutionalization of Shari'a law is still a far off threat in America, what is most unsettling to voters on the right about American Muslims taking a more active part in American public life? In fact, what would that America look like anyway? Perhaps not surprisingly, and seemingly in response to this very question, a pair of pieces from the liberal-leaning media (nytimes' "Muslim Women Gain Higher Profile" and PBS's "The Calling") have sketched what that America could look like by showcasing the lives of Muslim women in the US. Neither of the pieces shy away from the women's difficulties and sufferings, but both also celebrate just how much American-mosaic-building these women have accomplished by assimilating big American values while unapologetically adding their own religious values to the pot. It gives us a glimpse of how this experiment might succeed (again) and what the fruitful magnifications of such success might entail for both America and Islam.


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Monday, 2 January 2012
FMBT Part I: Army dithers over futuristic tank, DRDO pursues engine
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"Hybrid" engine indeed and "low power" of a whopping 500 hp! Is there a typo of 50 hp instead of 500 ?. Isn't there something called APUs in tanks today that do exactly that ? Why most of the biggest trucks in the world today (google up Volvo and Mercedes and MAN websites) don't have engine sizes of 500 hp and infact, most APCs etc wont have 500 hp either.
- 2 January 2012 at 10:08
What does the Amru have to say on this. DRDO BHEL,HAL,NAL have always said brilliant things about not so brilliant equipment...
The saving grace has always been, indegenious capabilities while actually outsourcing....
- 2 January 2012 at 10:48
- jj said...
Wouldn't it be better if improvements are made to Arjun rather than going for an entirely new concept ?
- 2 January 2012 at 11:19
- joydeep ghosh said...
@ajai sir
first of all 'A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR' to you
and now the reply or should i say querries based on what saw in rediff and business standard
Q1. The name for FMBT is 'Karan', why name the tanks on tragedy kings from 'Mahabharata' likw 'Bhisma', 'Arjun', 'Karan'
Q2. Is it viable to have 2 engines (500 hp for idling & 1000 hp for moving)when there is space problem
Q3. You say work is on for a 1800 hp engine keeping in mind the inherent tank weight gains, FMBT is currently pegged at 50 tons. Wont it be prudent to keep the target at 45 tons so even if weight touches 50 tons, the weight will be manageable.
Q4. The rediff image show 2 tanks (1 with and another with barrel) why?
Q5. Last time you said things about T90 tanks, any updates on the work starting on the T90AM the latest version?
hope to get answers
Joydeep Ghosh
- 2 January 2012 at 11:47
Ajai, I have always maintained that the Indian Army is like Sigumnd Freud's proverbial woman when he is said to have remarked "After all these years of study, I have not been able to find out, what is it that a woman wants!" .
The Army cannot EVER come up with a specs for a product. It is organizationally incapable of doing so. It is like a child lost in a candy shop, choosing this and that , and finally being lost and not being able to pick what it exactly wants. The Army is like a child lost in the international arms bazaar fascinated with all the toys and this and that, with barely an idea of what is it that it ACTUALLY needs.
- 2 January 2012 at 12:29
I appreciate DRDO's initiative on engine development. Without sharing the work (even if it means sharing a part of technology development to foreign companies), it would be very difficult to do everything by itself. This approach should have been followed from the beginning. But still, Better late than Never.
-Sudheendra S
- 2 January 2012 at 14:10
Why does it have to be a 50 tonne tank. The army is thinking with the T model cap on. The tank needs good armour to protect its crew like M1Abraham, Merkava, Leopard and all MBT except of soviet origion.
Why is the foucs not on Depleted Uranium ammunition and armour. DU ammunition was the single most important factor in US armour overwhelming kill in Iraq Wars. The DU armour on M1Abraham made the shells fired from T72 tanks bounce off harmlessly while DU amuunition rounds insured a first time kill as DU is one o the hardest material devloped and has great penetrating power on steel. There are envionmental sideeffects but not more important then winning wars. Also all major armies have now DU stockpiles, including Pak and its better to fire DU shells on enemy territory then have it land on ours.
- 2 January 2012 at 14:24
when was the PSQR supposed to be final??
- 2 January 2012 at 15:20
Is it a case of "Arming without Aiming" for DRDO? Where would one require these tanks by say 2030?? By then water of all the three rivers of Pakistan would be flowing all along the border areas including in Sindh. Our deserts would have turned fertile with all water from Pakistan side seeping into Hakara depression.Would they require a 50 ton tank to climb Himalayas with an APU!! Ah ! you mean to say tanks will be the mainstay of country's military deterrent till around 2050? We are doing well !
- 2 January 2012 at 20:22
- Indiaspin said...
There is Make versus Buy, then there is DRDO: Make what that no one wishes to Buy! From Rifle to Tank, Helicopter to Aircraft!
- 2 January 2012 at 21:41
- Seo Service in Delhi said...
best blog
- 2 January 2012 at 21:45
What happened to the earlier DRDO project (launched in 2003 according to wiki) for making a 1500 hp tank engine? See (under Engine)para in the Bharat Rakshak site and "Upgrades" in wiki link below-
In addition to this , there was a project charter document for the 1500 hp engine floating around on the net, released by DRDO. I read it a few years back which outlined all the private companies partnering with DRDO on that effort.
I am surprised that there is absolutely no mention of this past effort to develop the engine in the article or by DRDO biggies.
Has the DRDO decided to quietly bury the failures of the past to start on new failures? I guess DRDO is in the business of selling dreams as much as selling defence platforms and both go hand in hand. As long as there is a bunch of idiotic taxpayers (including myself) footing the bill, WTF does DRDO care?
Cheers to another decade of "development" of a new tank engine. And then, we will import the T-100 or T-120? Jai Hind.
- 2 January 2012 at 22:15
- Mihir said...
"40% of the time, you wastefully run a 1500 HP engine, guzzling diesel and giving away the tank's position, while you need very little power for running electricals like the radios and gun control equipment or for moving the tank slowly. So we are evolving a hybrid technology concept..."
Interesting. So it seems that the smaller electric motor shall be used as an APU as well. The more I think about it, the more I like it.
- 2 January 2012 at 22:24
"Business Standard, 2nd Jan 11"
Ajai ji - shouldn't it be 2nd Jan 12?
- 2 January 2012 at 22:58
I wish they would build a super-duper STRONG lighweight tank. They can then use it as a base for all present and future systems ---> like nag missile carrier, lazer system carrier, etc.
- 2 January 2012 at 23:03
The hybrid engine may be compact and fitted within less volume than the combination of normal engine and APU.
- 2 January 2012 at 23:57
I think the DRDO / AVRDE need to concentrate on a Gas Turbine Engine, a possible distant cousin of the Kaveri adapted for the FMBT.
Just like the Navalized Kaveri is under development, this too should be a goal for the future.
- 3 January 2012 at 02:26
IA may want another T-xx rather than Indian tank!
BTW sir what about IAC floatout? got any pictures? please....
- 3 January 2012 at 03:29


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The painted headlight door actually has movement on the inner aluminum door/hinge assembly. There are some captive cage nuts on the inner. If you loosen the screws slightly and the small body nuts toward the fender end, you would be surprised how much you can move them, including up and down.
If you have a Chassis Service Manual, look at 12-3 ,-12-4.This is in the electrical-body & chassis section.Has rszmjt said you would be amazed at how much movement there is for adjustment!
Look at "FIG 3"
12-4 Fig. 3 "Headlamp Panel Adjustment"
jacmac referred you to the "Chassis Service Manual, look at 12-3 ,-12-4.".. not the AIM...


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NASA downplays Russian's talk on space cooperation
WASHINGTON – NASA is downplaying a Russian official's statements about an earlier end to cooperation on the International Space Station because of U.S. sanctions on Moscow.
Russia deputy prime minister Dmitry Rogozin said Tuesday in tweets and a news conference that American sanctions imposed because of action in Ukraine would boomerang. He tweeted that Russia wouldn't continue cooperating with the United States on the 15-nation International Space Station past 2020, as NASA had hoped. The United States relies on Russian Soyuz capsules to fly to and from the station.
Rogozin also tweeted that crucial Russian rocket engines would only be shipped to the U.S. for non-military purposes.
NASA spokesman Allard Beutel said cooperation in space has been a hallmark of U.S.-Russian relations and the agency has not been notified of any changes.


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October 4, 2002-Playing in The Surf
The Surf at Lanakal
A beautiful surf pounding on the reef just outside the anchorage at Lanakal called to me that day and it still does even after the disaster.
Maybe it is what draws surfers: the blue sky, the blue ocean, the swells rising to form a wave, then the wave becoming a wall, then the wall curling over and breaking onto the reef in a pounding white fury of foaming thunder. And behind this breaker another swell rises, into an even higher blue wall. It is endless.
I couldn't keep my eyes off of them when we were anchored there and one day when I was in the dingy alone I felt compelled to motor in the direction of these beautiful waves.
I don't know why; they just pulled me.
Maybe I just meant to go closer; to get a feel of the power by being near to its thunder.
There was a safe place where the reef ended and the breakers stopped. It was calm there and I stopped the dingy and watched. Then I wanted to feel the rise of the swell. I moved forward a little. Can you predict what happened? A big wave formed, and I was inside it, in its path, it was close and it turned into a wall. No time to turn and run, I hesitated, should I go straight over it? The hesitation was a mistake. I was sideways to it when it reached me, and then I saw it curl and begin to break. And that breaking curl flipped me as neatly as a surgical procedure. No drama, no splashing; just a quick toss and I was upside down.
The curl of the wave, the pouring white water, threw me and my dingy over in an instant. The next thing I knew I was swimming and the dingy was upside down about 50 feet away. I looked behind me to see if any more waves were coming. No…good! I looked back to the dingy and I expected to see the propeller sticking up into the air, but I couldn't see it. Right then I was just worried about the boat and the motor and getting it all right again. I reached the dingy quickly, the motor was there, just tilted, but it had been submerged of course. I righted the dingy, motor and all, like a Hobie sailor by pulling on a line from one side while standing on the other. It was all intact except one oar, which I saw floating in the surf. I decide to leave the boat and swim to retrieve the oar, which I did, but in the meanwhile the dingy started to drift downwind and then I got about thirty minutes of good but fruitless exercise trying to catch up to it, pushing my oar ahead of me, and finally tucking the end of the oar in my pants to keep it under me, thankful for its meager but welcome support as I grew tired and started thinking about how I'd like some help.
As I was swimming Judy noticed my plight: I could see her standing on Wings shielding her eyes against the glare of the sun, trying to see what I was up to. Soon she had started the motor and was pulling up the anchor. I wanted her to hurry. Meanwhile some local youths had also noticed and they swam out from the shore to the dingy and then paddled it to where I was feebly swimming. Ten minutes later we were all back on Wings and re-anchoring, and I was squirming under Judy's angry glare. But she was right, it was dumb, and I swear, I'll never play in the surf again, at least not with the dingy.
Lanakal, Vanauatu
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On the west side of the island of Tanna in Vanuatu in the South Pacific there is a small village called Lanakal. When we came to Tanna we had to check in at Lanakal. Some boats anchor at Port Resolution on the east side of Tanna and come over by truck, but that costs and we were cheap.
So we anhored at Lanakal and walked to the customs office.
Tying up the Copra Boat
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There wasn't much at Lanakal; a few houses and a few Vanuatu people around. But there is a pier build by the Japanese as a gift to Tanna and a copra boat comes to Lanakal. I wandered down to the pier to for a look. Otherwise we didn't do much at Lanakal, except go for a little fun in the surf.
Click here for a few more photos
Fred & Judy, SV Wings, Lanakal, Vanuatu


text: The A.V. Club has an exclusive stream of Indiana DJ Chris Lawhorn's new album Fugazi Edits. The instrumental release uses 100 different samples spanning the entire catalog of post-hardcore legends Fugazi, re-cutting and reinterpreting them into new pieces of music. The band authorized the project, and all the record's profits will go to a couple of charities—one that works with elderly people in Washington, D.C. and one that provides international aid to people stricken by natural disaster or political strife.


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|Paying every minute: Traffic jams now cost Bogotanos millions in lost time, fuel and pollution.
|Build it and they'll fill it up:
a congested ten-lane 'freeway' in California.
That's why most cities have tried to build their way out of traffic jams - usually unsuccesfully. That's because there's money there for everyone, even tho new roads take many years to build and soon fill up with more cars.
So, give Mayor-elect Gustavo Petro lots of points for planning to attack traffic problems by limiting demand, rather than feeding the traffic monster.
I can already hear the shrieks about Petro's plan to create urban tolls to charge drivers for the impacts they cause. Motorists, after all, don't want to pay for something they believe they've been getting for free.
|A private car gobbles up much more road space than does a bus passenger.
Worse, neighbors, pedestrians, bicyclists and bus passengers also suffer lots of these impacts - even tho they don't cause them.
By spurring commuters to reconsider unecessary trips or switch from cars to bicycles or buses, congestion pricing will reduce all of these problems - just as it has in highly-liveable cities like London, Stockholm and Singapore. Congestion charges will also generate money for public transit, so that Bogotá can improve its bus system and actually pay for its dreamed-of subway system.
|This cyclist is the only one moving.
Encouragingly for Petro, London Mayor 'Red' Ken Livingstone, who created London's pioneering congestion charge won reelection - and his conservative successor Boris Johnson has continued the system. In Stockholm, Sweden, support for the congestion charge jumped from 25% to over 50% after a trial run. Traffic in Stockholm's city center was cut 20%. After London implemented its charge, traffic speed jumped 30% and travel times dropped 14%. That means millions of dollars (or pounds sterling) in saving for the economy.
Read about other cities' experiences with congestion pricing here.
Watch a video here.
|How do I escape from this?
|I've only moved a block since noon!
|I wish I were walking!


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Anticipating snow and cabin-fever over the holidays, I planned our biggest experiment yet, which I called 'The Great Paper Airplane Experiment.' Our local Boys and Girls Club (special thanks to Reggie Brodie at BGCAA for making it available!) happens to have a fabulous new facility with a full size basketball court and stage, which was the perfect indoor venue for flying paper airplanes.
The goal of the experiment was simple -- does the length of paper influence how far a paper airplane flies? For the sake of the experiment, each scientist was given three sheets of paper: 8 1/2 X 8 1/2 inches, 8 1/2 X 11 inches and 8 1/2 X 15 inches. With the help of our local printer (big thanks to everybody at Freestate Press here in Annapolis!) we color coded the sizes -- orange short planes, light blue medium planes, and pink long planes.
Our participants had all the practice paper they could fold and were asked to fold any paper airplane design they chose in three configurations -- short, medium, and long. After practicing, we marked off 'launch pads' and laid out distances in tape on the floor in concentric rings every five feet. To measure the longest flights we used a surveyor's tape measure.
Finally, I printed out 'test flight logs' on which each scientist could write down his or her name, the plane's name if it had one, the launch type (how hard the plane was thrown), the flight pattern (did it fly curvy or straight), and the distance each plane flew. Here's a pdf of the test flight logs.
We invited over 60 kids from Annapolis to help us create the planes and gather the data we would need to test our hypothesis. Parents were encouraged to help design, fold, and fly the planes.
We ended up with a good variety of planes. Most people folded variations on the basic 'dart' design, but we had some very creative entries. Again, the goal was to see in general if a certain length of paper was better than another. Several hundred planes were made of all shapes and sizes, and our scientists had a great time trying to figure out what made a good paper airplane.
Check out our data sheet (pdf).
I am attaching our complete data set because if I didn't, I would probably be accused of faking the data since it came out so regular and perfect.
The planes built with square paper flew an average only 10.5 feet, while the standard letter sheet planes flew an average 12.5 feet. Finally, the longest planes flew the longest distance, averaging 16.25 feet -- significantly longer than the other planes.
I have to say that as I watched the planes fly and looked over the Test Flight Logs I wasn't confident that we would get a statistically accurate result. In fact, I tabulated the results manually after creating the spreadsheet to confirm the numbers -- it just looked too perfect! Feel free to use the parent's guide below to conduct your own experiment. And if you upload your data to the comments sections I will include them with ours in an update. So start folding!
We ended the day handing out Certificates of Achievement to all the scientists who help us advance the art and science of paper airplane aerodynamics.
Practice flights
Another great launch
Parent's Guide:
This is a great experiment for kids of all ages that teaches both science and engineering principles. All you need is several sheets of paper of various sizes and your favorite paper airplane design.
Starting with a standard sheet of paper, fold your favorite design of paper airplane -- it can be just about any design you can think of -- then launch your plane. Next, take a standard sheet of paper and cut it down to a square. Then fold the same design as best you can again. The plane will either be shorter or longer (depending on how you oriented the sheet when building the first plane.) Give this plane a toss. Does if fly better or worse than the last one? Have its aerodynamic properties improved or become worse?
Next, take a legal sheet of paper and fold the same design again as best as you can. Now the plane will either be very short and wide or very long and narrow. How does it fly? Have you improved its aerodynamic properties or made them worse? We decided that the distance flown would be our measure of 'success', but you can modify the experiment to suit your needs. For example -- what makes a good stunt flyer? Or a good glider? We measured and recorded as many flights as we could and averaged our data.
Finally, look at your paper airplane. What attributes does it have that are improved by different sheet sizes? Are the wings bigger in one size than others? Is the plane more stable in one configuration than the others? What can you do to maximize the design based on the different sheets? What can you do to the design to make it fly better?
The internet is full of paper airplane resources -- too many to list here! You can find some here, here and here. Type 'paper airplane' into any search engine and start folding. Also, Scholastic, Inc. has instructions for schools that want to participate in the 'National Paper Airplane Contest' .


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Featuring music, crafts and food, Ocean Beach's Oktoberfest is one of the biggest bargains of the year. There is a $3 cost to enter the beer-garden area, but other than that, the outdoor events are free. Oktoberfest is a joint venture between Hoy Hoy Boys, the Ocean Beach MainStreet Association and the Ocean Beach Community Foundation.
Funds raised go to help fund local nonprofit organizations. Since its inception in 2002, Oktoberfest has raised more than $150,000 for such groups.
One of the event's biggest attractions is Ocean Beach's seaside location. Ocean Beach MainStreet Association executive director Denny Knox points out that this fall celebration is the only Oktoberfest located on the beach. She added this is key to keeping admission prices low.
"We just want people to come and have fun," Knox said. "Some things you go to are so expensive, and then you don't have money to spend with the merchants in the area. We find that this way, business is brisk even at merchants in the area surrounding Oktoberfest."
While adding a Friday-night component to Oktoberfest has been very successful, she said it is unlikely that it would ultimately stretch into a third day on Sundays.
"It's very costly to stage these special events," Knox said. "It's all volunteers and a committee of about 12 people. Right now, we're pretty happy with the Friday and Saturday setup."
On Friday, Oct. 12, event goers will be entertained at a single stage at the foot of Newport, beginning at 4:30 p.m., and include a beer garden and finalists in a Band Slam competition to pick the best cover or tribute band in the area. On hand will be Myndecryme (Queensryche), Spiral Out (Tool), Rage Again (Rage Against The Machine), Dazed and Confused (Led Zeppelin), Hey Ho Lets Go (The Ramones) and Hitman Honey (1980s hits).
Then, on Oct. 13, there will be a full day of activities beginning at 10 a.m., along with two stages. The main stage will be hosted by inimitable local personality and crooner, Jose Sinatra, with performances from one of the area's favorite tribute bands, Electric Waste Band (The Grateful Dead), and a selection of original music ranging from rock to reggae with artists like Mike Pinto, The Devastators, The B-Side Players, JetWest and Blackout Party.
At the same time, the Rey Vinole Oktoberfest Band will play on the Seaside Stage, located on Abbott Street. Of course, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Oktoberfest visitors will find a plethora of additional activities, including a "Mr. and Ms. Oktoberfest" contest, a sausage toss with a $10,000 top prize, a brat trot beach run, as well as stein-holding contests and a bratwurst-eating competition.
Guests worried about parking are encouraged to take a shuttle that will run every half-hour between the event and the 710 Beach Club in Pacific Beach. There will also be a special bicycle parking area adjacent to the lifeguard tower on Abbott Street.
Members of Electric Waste Band are veterans of the event. According to keyboardist Paul Bell, it's the location that particularly sets this Oktoberfest apart from the rest.
"I always enjoy playing outside at the pier, as you cannot ask for a better setting," he said.
He said there are challenges to playing an outdoor gig like this, but the stage location actually mitigates some potential issues.
"The sound outdoors isn't as ambient so," said Bell. "As a vocalist, it creates the illusion that your voice is disappearing the instant you make a note, whereas indoors you get the reflection off the back wall giving you a little more of your own voice. At Oktoberfest, though, it is great because the stage points toward the cement wall and we can get a little vocal slapback."
According to Bell, it's likely the band will skip a planned-out set list.
"One year, I think we did compose a set that we adhered to about 70 percent," he said. "More often than not, we want to feel out the vibe of what kind of day it is, how the crowd is reacting, etc."
He said that generally means the crowd will be treated to a more hit-oriented show.
"We do seem to lean toward the sunnier side of the [Grateful] Dead universe," said Bell. "'Scarlet Begonias,' 'Here Comes Sunshine' and 'Sugar Magnolia' are all favorites."
Dazed and Confused frontman and Ocean Beach resident Jason Ott agrees that the hits are important at an outdoor event of this type.
"The sets are pretty short and there are so many good songs," said Ott. "The hard part is trying to decide which songs not to play. We're used to doing at least three hours, which gives us plenty of time to play all the crowd favorites and some obscure tunes, too. The thing we will take into consideration is: Is it a popular enough song that the majority of people listening will get into it?"
He cites "Kashmir," "How Many More Times," and "Whole Lotta Love" as crowd pleasers.
"At OB Pier parking lot events, we get to play on a much bigger stage and to a much bigger crowd than usual," Ott said. "That's a bonus more than a challenge. Over the last six years, we have played in OB, Pacific Beach, Mission Beach, Orange County, Solana Beach, downtown.
"OB is by far the most fun," he said. "People here just love live music. I love being able to play in my backyard. We get to look the crowd and see so many friends all in one place. Good times!"
• OB Oktoberfest takes place Friday, Oct. 12 and Saturday, Oct. 13 at Newport Avenue and Abbot Street. All ages (21 and over in the beer-garden area). Free (except $3 cost for admission to the beer garden. www.oboktoberfest.com


text: It's not easy to launch a new product category, especially if devices don't have a magically-delicious hook, but that's not why ARM thinks it's taken so long to deliver the smartbook. In an interview with ZDNet UK, VP Ian Drew said Adobe's blame was undeniable -- Flash didn't deliver ARM optimization in time for subnetbooks to be viable. Compounding the issue, the tablet craze has manufacturers all atwitter, he said, diverting smartbook resources to the iPad party instead. As far as netbooks are concerned, Drew cited poor adoption of Linux; he reminded us ARM smartbooks can't do x86. Asked if Atom (which can) might be the real reason for delay, he said absolutely, positively no way. The executive said manufacturers apparently hadn't brought up that idea even once. Guess we'll have to take his word on that one.


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Jan. 10, 2013
ST. LOUIS – Twenty years after Mia Hamm visited the Missouri Athletic Club to receive the Collegiate Soccer Player of the Year Award, one of the most famous soccer players in U.S. soccer history is returning to the MAC as the featured speaker of the Hermann Trophy Banquet.
This Friday, Jan. 11, the MAC will present the crystal soccer ball trophy to the top male and female collegiate soccer players in the country. The MAC Hermann Trophy represents the highest individual achievement in the sport. In addition to two-time MAC Hermann winner Mia Hamm, some of the biggest names in American soccer including Kristine Lilly, Claudio Reyna and Alexi Lalas have also won the award.
The finalists for the 2012 men's MAC Hermann Trophy are Ryan Finley (Notre Dame), Jose Gomez (Creighton) and Patrick Mullins (Maryland). The finalists for the women's award are Crystal Dunn (North Carolina), Caroline Miller (Virginia) and Christine Nairn (Penn State). The winners will be announced at a press conference at the MAC from 5:45-6 p.m. (CST). The finalists and their coaches will be available for interviews following the announcement. A live stream of the press conference will be carried on the MAC Hermann Trophy website.
Finley (Lumberton, N.J./Rancocas Valley/Duke) played in all 22 matches this season and ranked second nationally in goals (21) and points (46). The senior forward led the BIG EAST with 12 goals in league play and was named the BIG EAST Offensive Player of the Year. He also was named to the National Soccer Coaches Association of America (NSCAA) All-America First Team.
Finley had six game-winning goals, including two golden goals. He scored the golden goal in the title game of the BIG EAST Championship, a 3-2 double-overtime victory over Georgetown. He had six multiple-goal games, including one hat trick. His 21 goals rank fifth in Notre Dame history for a single season.
The winners and finalists for the MAC Hermann Trophy are determined by a vote of Division I coaches who are members of the National Soccer Coaches Association of America (NSCAA). Also, an online fan vote (the equivalent of one coach's vote) is factored into the final vote total.
The Missouri Athletic Club has been honoring the top players in college soccer since 1986. For more about the MAC Hermann Trophy, visit machermanntrophy.lockerdome.com.
About the Missouri Athletic Club
The Missouri Athletic Club has been presenting college soccer player of the year awards since 1986. The MAC was established in 1903 as an athletic, dining and social club. It has "Platinum Club of America" status, which is awarded to the top private clubs in the country. To learn more about the Missouri Athletic Club, go to mac-stl.org.
About the NSCAA
Founded in 1941 and based in Kansas City, Kan., the National Soccer Coaches Association of America (NSCAA) is a non-profit organization with a mission to educate coaches, encourage excellence and serve the soccer community.
The NSCAA is the world's largest soccer coaches' organization with members at every level of the game. The membership is primarily made up of coaches, but also includes administrators, referees and others in the soccer industry. The NSCAA provides its members ways to enhance the game of soccer by providing a national education program, interaction and networking opportunities, and membership benefits.
For more information about the National Soccer Coaches Association of America, visit NSCAA.com.


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Addition To Early Cat Gear-Controlled Grader Adjustments.
P.S. One 'tiny, minor, insignificant, little' item that I forgot to mention in the post above was brought to mind by one of EDB's posts recently. There is a collar on the back end of the blade lift shaft where it comes out of the hi-lift gear case on the front of the cab. This collar has some retaining screws in it to hold it in place and its purpose is to restrict fore and aft movement of the lift shaft and of the hi-lift gear inside the case. The collar needs to be adjusted so that there is little or no fore and aft movement in this shaft.
Check the space between the collar and the front face of the hi-lift gear housing with a little weight down on the blade AND with the blade slightly raised. Whichever way shows the greatest space, leave the machine in that position. loosen the retaining screws and tap the collar back until it is touching the front face of the hi-lift gear case. It is also a good idea to turn it 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch so that when you re-tighten the retaining screws, they are not going to be drawn into their old marks on the blade lift shaft. Then re-tighten the retaining screws.
Hope this helps. Thank you, EDB , for jogging my memory.
Just my 0.02.


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South African Sports Project Wins Award
Sugar Bay Children's Camp has won an award for the best service provider in South Africa.
Projects Abroad have been sending volunteers to the impressive Sugar Bay complex in South Africa for over four years now. Acting as camp counsellors they help instruct children in a variety of mostly sporting activities. Its main attraction is undoubtedly the wide range of water sports volunteers can participate in, as well as the fantastic weather and excellent surfing conditions.
Last month Sugar Bay yet again raised the bar when it was awarded the Service Sector Award, and also named the top overall small - medium enterprise in South Africa. These awards were given in recognition of the originality and professionalism of the organisation in addition to the outstanding level of customer service and individual choice and attention that Sugar Bay provides to its young guests and their families.
This is an amazing accolade for Sugar Bay. It is fantastic that in the 5th year of operation they have been recognized not only as leaders in the service sector, but as the best medium-sized business in the whole of South Africa!
It's no wonder volunteers come back from Sugar Bay invigorated and fulfilled. There's no better time for those thinking of going soon to this idyllic setting.


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My grandmother told me a story many moons ago about her grandparents. She never mentioned them by name, so I had no clue who she was talking about, but it was the kind of story that tends to stick with you.
If you thought I was going to talk about an ancestor who was a bandit, sorry, but no, I have none that I'm aware of. Same thing for ancestors who were cowboys or bank robbers; nor any who had an overwhelmingly large collection of Halloween costumes. My Uncle Steve worked in a nuclear plant for several years, but I don't think that's the same thing at all.
No, what I'm talking about is ancestors whose stories you know, but whose names you do not. Or perhaps ancestors whose stories have been mixed up with someone else's. We all have them, and unfortunately they can create quite a tangle in our family tree, or at least cause a lot of puzzlement.
So, this story is about my masked ancestors. My maternal grandmother, Ruth (Anderson) Ledford, whom we called Maw-Maw, once told me about her grandparents. The man was Dutch, or so I recall her saying, and his wife was Cherokee. Now, apparently the wife was a harridan. She was very mean to her husband and possibly even abusive, but worse (in my grandmother's eyes anyway), she refused to cook for him.
Of course, my grandmother's version was much more colorful. I regret that I did not capture this story in some way outside my own memory, but considering my age when she told me, perhaps I can be forgiven.
For years, I searched for this couple. Not knowing their names, I naturally began with my grandmother's actual grandparents, but quickly eliminated them: neither husband was Dutch, or even of Dutch or German (Deutsche) origin, and neither wife was Cherokee, or even partly Cherokee, that I could determine.
So I began to go backwards through Maw-Maw's lineage, from her great-grandparents to her great-great-grandparents, and realized eventually that she would not have referred to anyone that far back as a grandparent. I finally settled, tentatively, on her great-grandparents, Andrew John Curtis and Marinda/Miranda Fletcher, parents of Maw-Maw's maternal grandmother Lelah (Curtis) Dills, primarily because I suspected that they had a troubled marriage from the records I had found related to them.
The summer before my mother's death, I finally confessed the identity problem to her, in the hopes that she would remember the story and perhaps knew the names of the individuals involved. She thought for a moment and then told me that the couple was Maw-Maw's mother's parents, Charlie Dills, who was called Dutch (and was not of Dutch origin), and Lelah Curtis. Mom remembered hearing stories about this couple, and was happy to help me (finally!) identify them.
From other researchers, I've learned that it was Charlie's brother, Canary May Dills, who was called Dutch, not Charlie. And I've never been able to show that Lelah was a Cherokee, nor either of her parents, nor their parents. (To be fair, I still have research to conduct in those generations.) But to have this story finally matched with the right ancestors has been both a relief and a pleasure.
Take that, you masked ancestors!