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The most compelling reason to buy individual bonds is that bonds come due at a defined time. Unlike bond mutual funds of any kind, individual bonds pay their face value in cash at maturity.
Need a large chunk of cash for a tuition payment on the 15th of December 10 years from now? Buy a bond that matures on December 1, 2027.
Planning to retire? Buy a continuing series of bonds that come due when needed. The list is almost endless.
When you purchase individual bonds, you get to select the specific characteristics of the bonds that you wish to own.
The question, of course, is how to buy them?
You can purchase Treasury debt and U.S. savings bonds directly from the TreasuryDirect website, or from many commercial banks. Or you can check out sources of information on the internet for municipal and corporate bonds before talking to brokers.
This article gives you guidelines for evaluating websites and for locating a bond broker.
Buying Online
The federal government offers the only unfettered bond-purchasing avenue open to you as an individual investor. Created in August 1986 by the U.S. Bureau of the Public Debt, TreasuryDirect (www.treasurydirect.gov) is a book-entry securities system that allows you to maintain accounts directly with the U.S. Treasury. This system lets you purchase all newly issued Treasury bills, notes and bonds at auction without paying a commission. Also available at TreasuryDirect are EE and I savings bonds and TIPS.
You can open your TreasuryDirect account online by filling in an account form on the spot. When your bonds come due, you can automatically reinvest your principal if you have given written instructions to do so. Interest flows to the account you designate. When you order bonds online, cash will be withdrawn from your bank or brokerage account to pay for them. You can also sell your bonds through this account.
With the successful implementation of TreasuryDirect and the advent of day-trading stock buyers, it was widely assumed that buying bonds online would also evolve into a simple matter of a single click. As it turns out, that assumption was wrong. Individual retail clients don't have free access to purchase bonds online—without a broker, individuals can purchase only new-issue Treasuries. Thus, while the web allows you to check sites and view bond prices and offerings, in most cases you still have to use a broker to finalize your trade.
Pricing Information
Price transparency in the bond markets gained momentum from the House of Representatives' Bond Price Competition Improvement Act of 1999. Responding to this new law, the site www.investinginbonds.com was established. This site provides current prices on bonds that have traded more than four times the previous day.
Keep in mind that for bonds to do this, there must be quite a large supply of them available. This limits the number of postings because most bonds trade infrequently. The site also allows you to track the history of specific bond issues to see how they performed and how their prices compare to similar securities. The database does not allow you to check for daily price swings in the broad marketplace.
The Municipal Securities Rulemaking Board (MSRB), which was established by Congress in 1976, has stipulated that before making the purchase, bond purchasers have the right to receive "all material" information about a security available to brokerage firms. A material event might be notice of a pending downgrade resulting from economic weakness in a source of revenue that might negatively impact your bonds. However, the obligatory material to be posted on them is not easily understood.
The MSRB further stipulates that brokers must recommend bonds to you that are "suitable" to your needs, and it is still the MSRB's position that trading in the electronic marketplace be limited to those who can make informed investment decisions without the services of a broker. It is not enough to declare yourself "informed" and say that you're willing to take on the risks. The website needs to verify that you will meet your obligations as its host company defines them: that you understand what you're buying and are able to pay for the bonds. With each transaction, they must also verify that you chose "suitable" bonds.
"Wait a minute," some might protest, "It is possible to buy bonds online. I just bought some last week."
Well, yes, you may think you have, but what you actually did was to tell a clearing broker to buy the chosen bonds for you. This is an expensive process because you now have two middlemen instead of one: the broker and the website managers.
The websites charge fees similar to those of discount brokers. More traditional bond brokers charge only a spread. In addition, the web sites must verify that you chose suitable bonds; if they're deemed unsuitable, the trade has to be unwound—somehow.
In the event that the MSRB reverses its position and allows you to trade online without dealing with a middleman, you should know that most of the trading sites do not own the bonds that they trade and that the bonds are screened and priced for retail trade.
Individual brokers are beginning to show their inventory online, but the only way you will know whether you're getting a good deal is to shop around. Don't assume that just because the trading platform you're using shows bonds from many dealers, you are getting the best buy. Also, the websites do not allow you to bid for the bonds at a lower price. That right is reserved for brokers.
Visiting a website offering bonds, however, can help you clarify your thinking. Remember, despite what brokers may say, all of them sell bonds to make money. It's your job to figure out how they do it and to decide whether you're okay with their share.
Brokers who charge a flat fee for service are probably also making a "spread," the difference between the current market price and the cost of purchase.
Other brokers charge only a spread, although they sometimes tack on a service charge that is not figured into the yield (remember, bonds are bought and sold on yield). The only way you can know if you're getting a good price is to compare the offerings of a few different brokers, whether you view the bonds online or talk to a broker in person.
If you do not see what you want to purchase, your broker might be able to check the "pick list," which is a trading platform dealers use to trade among themselves.
Real-Time Prices
Although sites that post offerings for sale may be helpful with regard to pricing, they may also be quite misleading. The offering levels will not automatically change with the fluctuation of interest rates. Just like the offering sheets that were mailed out weekly, the posted prices of the bonds given on the site might be out of date. When you click to purchase the bond, the bond might not be there anymore, or the price might have changed. The broker might be just testing the waters to see what kinds of offers are made for the bonds.
Even dealers have problems with bond purchases on the internet. If there is an offering of 100 bonds, and someone sells 50 bonds on the telephone in the office, there are now only 50 bonds left. Before the broker can update the screen, someone else is clicking on the 100-bond offering online. The selling broker is now "short 50 bonds." They can either cancel the trade in the office, try to find the bonds somewhere else, or tell the wire service: "I am such an idiot! I have only 50 bonds to sell." Customers and the wire service are not happy when the broker tells them that they have to break the trade. They can do that only so often.
Although you may have access to online trading, it is best if you find your bonds online but talk to a broker to purchase them. A broker might be able to offer you a discounted price or a better deal on bonds owned by the firm. Particularly attractive deals may never be posted online because they can be easily sold, thus, saving the broker the cost of posting the item. Some firms charge extra to talk to a broker. You will have to decide what is in your best interest.
The best online databases allow you to set the criteria and limit the number of offerings that pop up. For municipals, for example, you might want to choose a state and a maturity and yield range. The more restrictive your criteria, the fewer offerings you will see.
A good online service will give you detailed call information, including sinking funds and extraordinary calls. However, no matter how good the website, there may be details that you are missing that a broker can tell you.
Choosing a Broker
Although being unable to trade online is a disappointment for consumers who are active traders, there are certain comforts in talking to a knowledgeable person about your investments. Not surprisingly, professional traders often find value in talking to one another as well. If they put in a trade electronically, they may follow it up with a phone call to discuss specific issues presented by the purchase. Relationships among brokers are especially important when they need to work out problems with a trade.
Given that the opportunities for unlicensed investors to trade bonds on an internet exchange are quite limited, it behooves bond buyers to select a broker to do so. "It vexes me to choose another guide," the writer Emily Brontë once wrote. Although it might vex you too, it could translate into extra money and profits if you do it right.
The Right Brokerage Firm
How do you find a good bond brokerage firm? You can check with friends and family to find out if they have a firm they like working with. Ask if the brokerage firm is a member of the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC). This member-supported insurance company provides limited customer protection in case of bankruptcy, although it does not protect against trading losses. The brokerage firm may also have additional insurance, adding protection above the levels provided by SIPC.
It is probably not a surprise to hear that all brokerage firms are not alike. As in every other field, there are specialists—in this case, those who deal in particular kinds of bonds. While any broker can purchase bonds on your behalf, not all can execute the purchase or sale at the same price. Remember, most bonds trade in an over-the-counter market.
Criteria to Consider
Seek a brokerage firm that trades the kinds of bonds you want to buy and is willing to accommodate your investing style. You need to shop around in order to determine which firm has the kind of inventory you require.
Some brokerage firms make the retail municipal market their specialty, though they may also offer other kinds of securities. They may have a specific regional orientation, specialize in national market bonds or specialize in lower-quality bonds. Retail firms deal in smaller lots of bonds, and their salespeople are usually quite knowledgeable.
The brokerage firm may tell you that it handles all kinds of securities, but once you see the firm's offerings you will know whether it provides the kinds of bonds you want along with good service and prices. The firm may not be able to offer you new issues if it does not participate in the selling syndicate.
Final steps in a thorough due diligence might be to ask for a description of the broker's typical client and then ask to talk to some of the broker's longer-term clients. The SEC provides a toll-free hotline operated by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority (FINRA) for a background check of brokers or sales representatives. Visit their website at www.finra.org.
The broker can screen bonds to meet your specifications. If you are in a high-tax state, for example, you may want to see bonds only from that state. You might have a particular maturity or rating in mind. Similarly, you would customize your search on the web by selecting the criteria that match the kind of bond you seek. The broker will help you think through your options and then will show you the offerings that might match.
Once you've gathered a list of potential candidates, begin thinking in terms of the relationship. A brokerage firm may be outstanding, but it is a flesh-and-blood person with whom you will be dealing. To find a good individual broker, speak to the sales manager and ask for a recommendation. Then ask about the broker's experience with and amount of time allocated to bond trades. That experience is important because, when choosing a broker, you are seeking to establish a mutually profitable, long-term relationship. And because this relationship is founded on money (your principal and their income) it's worth taking some time to make sure it's a solid one.
Using a Stockbroker
Just because you purchase stocks from a particular broker, don't assume that broker is the wisest choice for purchasing your bonds. Many stockbrokers do not know about or have little interest in bonds.
Stock buyers who use discount stockbrokers believe that they can also purchase bonds at a discount from the same source as well. Unfortunately, there are no discount bond brokers. Bond brokers generally act as principal in a sale, which means that they buy the bonds for their own account and then sell them for a profit. Contrast that procedure with the purchase of stock, in which the broker acts as an agent, bringing together the buyer and seller for a disclosed fee, called a commission.
If you're convinced that you want to purchase individual bonds, be wary of any broker who tries to shift you into stocks or who strongly suggests packaged investments like mutual funds, unit investment trusts and exchange-traded funds. This kind of recommendation indicates that the broker is not really interested in selling bonds, either from a lack of expertise or a belief that bonds don't generate enough money to warrant attention. These instruments do make sense in certain situations (for instance, if you're buying certain securities such as junk bonds, Ginnie Mae mortgage securities or TIPS for some income as well as inflation protection), but if you are certain you want to purchase individual bonds, you need to find the appropriate broker for those needs.
Evaluating Bond Prices
Trading bonds is not like trading stocks. Stocks can be bought at uniform prices and are traded through exchanges.
Most bonds trade over the counter, and individual brokers price them. For example, since the vast number of municipal bonds trade infrequently, you will probably never find three or more dealers offering the same bonds. This can make it difficult to compare prices, not only for municipals but also for other market sectors.
However, with the advent of Investinginbonds.com and real-time reporting of many trades, investors are well on their way to such transparency. It also helps that Fidelity Investments has chosen to disclose its fee structure for bonds, making it clear what it will cost you per trade. Fidelity charges $1 to $4 per bond. Some online brokers charge a flat fee. Depending on the number of bonds trading, one may be more favorable than another.
The fee disclosures, however, do not reveal the spreads between the buy and sell price embedded in the transaction that some dealer is making in the pipeline. Keep in mind that only by comparison shopping can you find the best deal, after all fees are taken into account. Other sites may not charge any fee, but rather embed their profit in the spread.
Does this take time and energy?
Making money takes time. One way to make money is not to spend it. You will have to decide if learning the ropes and doing due diligence is worth your time.
Nature of the Marketplace
The bond market is a dealer-to-dealer market, one in which firms hire traders to deal in specific types of bonds. A brokerage firm might have Treasury, corporate and municipal bond desks. The desk is a euphemism for a group of traders sitting in a room in front of computer monitors who specialize and trade in a particular portfolio sector of bonds.
The broker, often referred to as the account manager, discusses the bonds with you, and the trader is the person who actually buys and sells the bonds. When the account manager wants to give you a price break, he consults with the trader, who is the one who must agree to it.
When the broker owns the bonds being sold to you, there can be some flexibility in the price, depending on the price the trader paid and the current market direction.
For example, if a broker owns 35 bonds and you want only 25 ($25,000), he might give you a price break if you bought all 35 instead of leaving him with an odd lot of 10. If the broker owns 25 bonds, they might be sold all or nothing (AON). If you're shown equally interesting bonds from different dealers, one of them might be willing to give you a break on the price. Remember that brokers want to sell you bonds, but they need to make a living, too. They won't work for nothing, no matter how nice a person you are.
If a trade is "done away," meaning that the broker has to purchase the bonds from another brokerage firm, you will pay two spreads in the transaction instead of one. Discount brokerage firms tack on a fee in addition to the spread because they purchase most of their bonds from other firms.
Wholesale Versus Retail
The bond marketplace is divided into wholesale or institutional markets and retail markets. In the wholesale market, corporate, agency and Treasury bonds trade in million-dollar blocks, with $100 million blocks not infrequent. Municipal bonds trade in $100,000 blocks, by comparison.
In an odd twist, bigger is not necessarily better when it comes to buying bonds. In buying small odd lots of an issue, individual buyers often get a better price than institutional traders buying large blocks. That's especially true for municipal bonds.
At the same time, do not assume that you're getting a better deal just because it's an odd lot. Volume discounts do not apply to municipal bonds when you're buying, but if you're selling, size does matter. Larger lots fetch a much better price.
You can do better purchasing off-the-run Treasuries, the older issues that trade less frequently than new-issue Treasuries in the secondary market. That's because newly issued Treasuries are used as trading vehicles because of their large lot size and liquidity. Your best Treasury deal, however, is the new issue, if you can time your purchase with the auction. If your broker charges you a fee, you can always go to TreasuryDirect and purchase your bonds there if it is worth your time and effort.
New-issue municipal bonds may also be well priced because often, though not always, you're getting an institutional price and structure. A bond structure refers to the coupon size (for example, 4% or 5%) and whether the bonds are selling at par or a premium. Institutions prefer premium bonds because they have better trading value. Premium bonds are priced to the worst-call yield, often resulting in a higher yield-to-maturity than discount bonds. Individuals tend to like par bonds selling close to face value because they like to know their semiannual interest payments are just that—all interest—instead of a mix of interest and return of principal. New-issue bonds may also have longer call protection than secondary market offerings.
New-Issue Order and Confirmation Details
When you put in an order to buy bonds of a new issue, which is called an expression of interest, you legally commit to buy the bonds if they're issued as described. Should interest rates rise between your order date and the bond's issue date, you're still expected to accept them. If the bond offering changes in any way, the broker will come back to you to describe the terms of the deal. If you like the new terms, you buy the bonds. If not, you're no longer obligated to purchase them.
Once you've made your bond selection, you'll receive a confirmation in the mail. Although each broker confirmation is slightly different, they all contain the same information. The bond description includes the amount purchased, trade and settlement dates, the unit price, accrued interest, total cost and whether the bond is callable or not. Treasury bonds settle the next day, whereas corporate and municipal bonds settle two days after the trade, although the broker may be able to arrange for extra days to settlement if you ask. All bond issues are assigned a CUSIP number, the equivalent of a Social Security number for the bonds. Your account number printed at the top of the slip should be put on your check if the cash is not already in your account.
This is an edited version of the article written by Stan Richelsen and Hildy Richelsen for the February 2008 issue of the AAII Journal.


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The Power of Positive Thinking
Yesterday Topaz and I went out for our first long run since I left. He stayed with Grandma and Grandpa at the cabin on Lake Vermilion while we were on vacation. He had a wonderful time. Grandma took him for plenty of walks and Grandpa allowed him to sit in his lap and give him kisses. But oh, how he missed me. We've been running 5-8 miles each day, but it just isn't the same as the fun longer run.
I slept in until 6 when I heard the thump thump thump of Topaz's tail against my mattress. I pulled on my running clothes, filled bottles with water for Topaz, Heed for me, and off we went to the Blue Hill Trail.
The deer flies were gone! What a relief! We pranced and frolicked through the woods, no DEET, no swatting of flies, no rolling on the ground trying to get away from them! Sweet.
All but one of the ponds are now dry. I carried two bottles of water for Topaz and 1 for me. He drank every few miles and soaked good and long in the one available pond. I ran out of Heed before he ran out of water.
As we were running past an old oak tree two pilieated woodpeckers flew out at us. They began to circle around us, making their loud shrill tune. I don't know if they had baby birds in that tree or if we were just interrupting their feeding time but they were not happy with us there.
30 miles later and it was time to head home.
I met Bonnie and Marie for lunch at Benihana post run. Great way to re-fuel! We ate and caught up with one another. I meet Bonnie and Marie each month for lunch, otherwise time goes by too quickly and months will go past before we catch up. I congratulated Bonnie on becoming Grandma and Marie on finishing her triathlon last week. Good stuff! Bonnie and I ran our first 50 mile race together at Ice Age; where Marie ran the 50K. We all ran the Voyaguer 50 together..Marie's first 50 and number 2 for Bonnie and I. We've been good friends since.
The three of us will be running Twin Cities Marathon in October. Good fun.
The Benihana fueled me so well I was ready for more today. I didn't intend on going long, but it was cool, and it just felt so good.
30 miles. Nothing like back to back 30's that feels like a walk in the park. I thought I'd be recovering from Leadville this week, but the 60.5 didn't take anything out of me, darnet! I saved too much. Saved too much and was never able to expend it on the trail.
I went to the gym this afternoon and was able to do 50 chin ups AFTER I worked back and shoulders! Usually I have to do the chin ups first or I can only squeeze out 20. Nobody was there, so I just kept at it. 5 sets of 10.
This next week will be time at the gym, a few stair stepping sessions, 5-7 miles each day with Topaz. Next weekend we'll go to the cabin on Vermilion and the weekend after..
Superior Sawtooth 100 is up in 2 weeks. I love the Superior Hiking Trail. The Superior races are fantastic. I can't wait. This year I am not afraid, not tense, not cringing with fear and anticipation. I'm just enjoying it all. I'm looking forward to spending some time (alot of time) on the trail, meeting some new people and sharing time with old friends. It truly is a party on the trail.
I went back to work on Wednesday. Instead of depressing myself with thoughts of "oh my gosh, in 14 days I have to go back to work; oh my gosh, in 13 days I have to go back to work, oh my gosh, in 12 days I have to go back to work" and fretting over it, I have finally changed my thinking. Tuesday I thought "boy, I sure have enjoyed this summer vacation. I am so happy I have a job where I can have 8 weeks off" it made going back to work so much nicer. I like my job, I like the people I work with; I don't know why I've cringed each fall when I've had to go back for the past 5 years! Crazy.
I've just picked cucumbers, tomato, potato, carrot, onion and peppers from the garden. They are sliced on the grill with chicken and corn on the cob. I've created another fantastic Dorie Dessert that is in the freezer and two loaves of bread are almost done in the oven.
I'm hungry!
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Julie- you are such an inspiration. Thanks for always bringing a smile to my face. Do you have any tips for running your first half marathon? I would love some advice.
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Thanks! First of all, congratulations on entering your first 1/2 marathon! That is awesome. Be sure to have run a long run of at least 10 miles; then all you will have left is 3 and you will be able to run another 3 for sure. Be sure to train with what you will be eating during the race. For a 1/2, gels should be sufficient .. I would take one each 30 minutes. I wouldn't weigh myself down with a bottle for a first 1/2. I would drink from the aid stations. I would bring a camera, though! There are some nice waist packs that are relatively small that you could stash the camera and gels into. Most of all, HAVE FUN! You only get one first 1/2 marathon, make sure you take it all in, enjoying all that is around you, enjoying your experience and your finish!!
- kelly said...
Julie, you are just amazing!! How do you keep so motivated to keep running day after day? How do you deal with burn-out? I am really struggling right now. Sometimes it is so hard to get out the door. Help!!


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Parable of the Vine. 1* The word of the LORD came to me:
2Son of man,
what makes the wood of the vine
Better than the wood of branches
found on the trees in the forest?a
3Can wood be taken from it
to make something useful?
Can someone make even a peg out of it
on which to hang a vessel?
4Of course not! If it is fed to the fire for fuel,
and the fire devours both ends of it,
Leaving the middle charred,
is it useful for anything then?
5Even when it is whole
it cannot be used for anything;
So when fire has devoured and charred it,
how useful can it be?
6Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD:
Like vine wood among forest trees,
which I have given as fuel for fire,
So I will give the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
7I will set my face against them:
Although they have escaped the fire,
the fire will still devour them;
You shall know that I am the LORD,
when I set my face against them.b
8Yes, I will make the land desolate,
because they are so unfaithful—
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The real battle for the future of public education is about to begin in Raleigh.
The leading think tank on the anti-public education Right set the stage this week with an "exclusive interview" with chief school privatizer and voucher proponent Rep. Paul Stam who talked about the voucher bill he would be introducing in the House.
Stam's plan would provide "equal opportunity scholarship grants" of roughly $4,000 to low-income and middle class students that they could use to help defray the tuition at private or religious or for-profit schools.
In other words, it is a $4,000 voucher—though Stam doesn't like that word. Two years ago he advised the audience in a private meeting organized by Americans for Prosperity not to use the term voucher because he said it doesn't poll well. So instead it's an opportunity scholarship.
Interestingly, the think tankers don't seem too worried about the semantics. The headline of their breathless story calls Stam's proposal an "expansive school voucher plan."
Expansive indeed. Though it's billed as helping hand for low-income families, the story says more than half the current public school students would qualify for the voucher in the first year under the income criteria and almost two-thirds of the students would qualify after that.
Stam's plan would allocate $90 million—or more correctly drain $90 million from public schools—to fund 11,000 vouchers by the second year of the plan with half of them going to existing private school students.
And you can bet it is only the beginning. Stam told the right-wing think tank that had been trying to create a voucher program for 20 years and now has the Republican majority in place in the General Assembly to do it.
He also has a voucher-friendly majority of the State Board of Education. Stam and his legislative allies made sure of that, refusing in 2011 to obey the state constitution and consider the appointments that Democratic Governor Beverly Perdue submitted for their confirmation, instead holding the appointments for Governor Pat McCrory to make.
McCrory didn't disappoint them. It appears that the double round of McCrory appointments that the legislature recently confirmed, along with far-right Lieutenant Governor Dan Forest who is also a member, gives the voucher crowd the control of the state board they have long sought.
Stam's allies in the legislative leaders are also doing their part. House Speaker Thom Tillis held an unannounced pro-privatization cheerleading session in the House chamber this week where Christian school officials made their case to friendly legislators and supporters. The message was far different earlier this year when Tillis met with teachers and public school officials who spoke out strongly against vouchers and other privatization schemes.
Stam and the propaganda outfits often use words like opportunity and choice to describe their plan there's a good reason for that.
They certainly can't tell the truth about their intention to turn over the education of our children to the vagaries of the market, for profit and non profit. They don't want to acknowledge that the goal is to drain resources from the already underfunded public schools and eventually shift them to private academies serving the upper class families who can afford them.
Stam all but admitted that two years ago in his remarks to the true believers after warning them not to use the v-word. He talked about legal services, saying that "there are government run law firms, legal aid, but that does not mean that everyone will do best by going to legal aid."
Legal aid lawyers do amazing work, but they are paid far less and have far fewer resources at their disposal than attorneys in large, wealthy law firms. That's Stam's vision of the way education should work too.
There will eventually be one kind of education for families who don't have much money, the public schools with far fewer resources than they need and a mandate to educate every child regardless of their academic level or disability. There will be another kind of selective schools for wealthy kids, well-funded schools with tuition well out of reach of most families, schools that can pick and choose who they educate, leaving the at-risk kids for somebody else to worry about.
Stam's latest version of his privatization scheme comes at an especially troubling time. Thanks to budget cuts in recent years, North Carolina now ranks 48th in per pupil education funding and 46th in teacher pay.
Then there's the overwhelming lack of evidence that students do better in private schools than public ones. They don't. The voucher supporters often cherry pick data and promote flawed studies to claim that privatization helps students, but the truth is that at best there is no significant difference in student achievement, a few gains here, less progress there.
Stam's right about one thing. Vouchers don't poll well. That's because people in North Carolina support public education and want it improved, not dismantled by diverting funding to private and unaccountable schools.


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All the guides on wow-pro are FREE, there is no trick, they are just free and will remain free. Enjoy and please contribute!
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Here's how to enjoy the guides as much as possible, even if you don't have a 2nd monitor, you can either:
1. Print the guides. There is a "Printer Friendly Version" link at the bottom of every guide, you just have to click on it. However, that might be expansive (and probably expensive), because the guides are big, very big. Another downside is that my guides are updated very frequently, so if you print it you'll miss the latest updates.
2. Playing WOW in Windowed Mode feels very comfortable while following along with this guide.
- Keep the guide opened in an internet window
- Log in to World of Warcraft, press Escape and go to Video Options, tick the following boxes:
Click on "Apply".
Your screen will look exactly as if you were playing wow in full screen mode, besides you will be able to ALT-TAB to the guide INSTANTLY.
This is how I play wow while following my guide, when I don't feel like booting up my 2nd computer
3. If you don't like any of those options, then you should definitely try our in-game addon version of our leveling guides. Simply click the link below:
80-85 Cataclysm Leveling Guides
- Arixan's Alliance Leveling Guide - Vashj'ir (80-82)
- Arixan's Alliance Leveling Guide - Mt. Hyjal (80-82)
- Arixan's Alliance Leveling Guide - Deepholm (82-83)
- Arixan's Alliance Leveling Guide - Uldum (83-84) - Coming Soon
- Arixan's Alliance Leveling Guide - Twilight Highlands (84-85) - Coming Soon
- Arixan's Horde Leveling Guide - Vashj'ir (80-82)
- Arixan's Horde Leveling Guide - Mt Hyjal (80-82)
- Arixan's Horde Leveling Guide - Deepholm (82-83)
- Arixan's Horde Leveling Guide - Uldum (83-84) - Coming Soon
- Jame's Alliance Leveling Guide - Twilight Highlands (84-85) - Coming Soon
1-80 Leveling Guides
For guides covering levels from 1-80, please check this link:
Release dates - FAQ
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Answer- A few days after the release of Cataclysm. A few days for Uldum, about a week for Twilight Highlands.
Question- When are the 1-60 guides going to be revamped?
Answer- A lot of them already are finished, and many are currently being revamped. All zones should be covered within a few weeks after the release.
Question- When you release new guides, I'd like to know ASAP. Is there a place where you post those news?
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The addon is really great.
Submitted by michaelwillford on Tue, 2011-07-19 07:25.
The addon is really great. Thanks for the post. I found it very interesting and also it helped me a lot.
Also the tips a nd the levelling guides are really wonderful.
Truly Amazing
Submitted by thatn3xkid on Tue, 2012-02-28 03:13.
I made this account to show some love for you guys! With all the hardwork and everything that you've done...I've been using your guides for quite a while and decided to go for a somewhat of a speed run(dungeon'd with the new dungeon system through OL/NR) and turned up some pretty amazing results. I got a screencap. I was in the Chest/Head/Back/Helm/Bow BoA's. No rings/trinks/RaF(Recruit-a-friend).
2 Days and 2 Hours!?!?
Submitted by Ludovicus_Maior on Fri, 2012-03-02 22:45.
I first saw the link and thought, "there is one of those spammers, gawd knows what would happen if I clicked on that link."
But it looked safe, and it was a screen shot and you really did level up extra fast!
Congrats and thanks for the love!
awesome addon, thanks for all
Submitted by macbeth34 on Sat, 2011-10-29 19:24.
awesome addon, thanks for all the guides as well.
Submitted by abewick on Fri, 2011-06-10 22:23.
love this addon and your guides! Thank you!
Submitted by Gmachine88 on Tue, 2011-02-01 18:50.
So, I've just started using this addon, mainly to gather all the quests for each zone. So far pretty good, though I seem to have missed A LOT of quests, but I'm assuming that's due to cataclysm re-forming them.
If you need a hand with the addon let me know, my LUA knowledge isn't exactly A+ but I figure things out :)
Annoying bug pop up
Submitted by joltyness on Sun, 2010-12-26 20:35.
Hi there, I've been a big fan of Jame's guides for a few years now. However, ever since I started questing in Grizzly Hills, I keep getting this very annoying error that pops up every time I hover over something. Here is a screenshot: http://i420.photobucket.com/albums/pp286/lbatdorf/WoWScrnShot_122610_132801.jpg
The error pops up so much that it has become quite annoying and I've even considered dropping the guide altogether. I just updated the guide a few days ago, too. Any ideas?
Grizzly in Grizzly
Submitted by wkjezz on Tue, 2010-12-28 21:19.
Thanks for the info, for some unexplainable reason Grizzly hills has been a zone that has caused us an amazing amount of Grief, the more info we get on this zone the better chance we have to fix it. I can't give you an ETA on when or how we are going to fix it as its been plaguing us for ever, but we appreciate the feedback very much
Leveling speed
Submitted by Discoverthepast on Wed, 2010-12-22 22:29.
Made an account just so i could let you know.... i used your guide from 1 to 85 as soon as cata hit since i hadnt played in forever i knew the zones a little but had no money no herilooms all completely fresh on a new server.i did level with a friend on recruit a friend 1 to 60 so we had triple exp for the times that he would get on which probably was most of 1 to 30 the rest was questing and the random dungeon finder i also did pause during level 83 to 84 to help a friend that was level 73 do some dungeons. so here is my result on /played to 85.
Great job!
Submitted by savagefool on Thu, 2010-12-23 01:07.
Great job leveling this fast. It amazes me how quick it is now with Cata. This gives me something to shoot for on my rogue. ;)
Submitted by Ryanrh on Sat, 2010-12-11 01:39.
Okey. I made an account here just to say how dissapointed I am.
You guy make a post about the fact that you will have a 1-85 guide ready by the time that cataclysm launches. People need to send you guys there beta keys, you need people to help, it seemed like a big undertaking and I was really looking forward to the idea of starting my worgen journey with James guide.
But what turns out? The only thing we get is some guides for the starting zones... Nothing from 20 up to 60... and from 80 to 84. The whole thing not even being one complete package but guides written by all kinds of people in different styles.
Is this why people neede to donate beta-keys? To help you guys out? To help test, to work on the add-on? You guys posted a news item in which you said everything was coming along nicely but that, apparently, was just to keep us going in circles.
Don't get me wrong. The fact that I'm so dissapointed is because I leveled a lot of toons with the original Jame's guide 1-60. I loved it. But I can't help to notice you guys are slacking atm and this site really has lost a lot of it's former glory.
I hope this is gonna change soon tho.
Good luck.
Besides the fact that, as
Submitted by Jiyambi on Sat, 2010-12-11 03:06.
Besides the fact that, as several users have pointed out, we DO cover EVERY zone in the game... this post is ludicrous.
NO ONE donated a beta key, by the way - the only keys we got were directly from Blizzard and from the addons sites where our addon was hosted. People did donate lots of time and effort writing guides on the beta, though, and for that I am very grateful.
What I'm NOT grateful for, what I'm getting quite sick and tired of, are people getting high and mighty with feelings of entitlement when what we have working on these guides is a team of VOLUNTEERS.
So if you are dissatisfied with what we have produced, rather than gripe and complain, CONTRIBUTE! Time, money, whatever seems easiest to you - even a *helpful* comment here and there, these all help!
And if you can't be bothered to read the notes on the Curse/WoW Interface page... AND in the in game addon.. explaining WHY the guides aren't there and WHERE you can get them and that they are still FREE... and you don't bother to stop by our chat room specifically there for people who are confused... well I guess you are rather beyond help!
Sorry for the mini-rant, back to finishing my studying for finals... *grumble grumble*....
I Agree - It's Free
Submitted by KDCinfo on Sun, 2011-04-03 21:31.
Being one who has created free stuff for others to use (I have 4 open source projects on SourceForge.Net), I can say that I truly and really appreciate anyone who can provide stuff for free, and keep it rolling for as long as y'all have done here.
I recently considered trying out Zygor, and despite trying 2 browsers and 4 e-mails addresses, I couldn't get an e-mail to authenticate my subscription. So figured I would go over to Dugi, and they use the same authenticatino service, so again, no e-mail. Now that's frustrating!
I've been using these guides for quite some time, and now appreciate them even more than I did before. I always go to the source site for add-on updates, and use their links to update my mods. I do not rely on Curse, WowInterface, or any other download site if I can find the originating development site.
Although I have 3 level 85 (Paly, Druid, DK), and 4 other 40's, I still consider myself a noob. Fortunately though, at least I'm aware I have more insight to appreciate the devotion and willingness y'all have brought to us 'noobs'.
Thank you very much and keep up the great work!!!
Keith D Commiskey
Excuse me?
Submitted by Kleandros on Wed, 2010-12-22 11:08.
Unfortunately I have to agree with Ryan.
You say that, "Besides the fact that, as several users have pointed out, we DO cover EVERY zone in the game... this post is ludicrous" But what are you talking about? It's been over 2 weeks now since the Cataclysm launch and lvls 25-60 are not even covered yet.
If this is how you treat the people that make YOUR website go 'round, don't be surprised when your page rank falls off because nobody is coming here anymore. And people WILL stop coming here when they realize everything is outdated (the 60-80 guides are both severely outdated and neep remaking - I was outleveling them like crazy WITHOUT instances or heirlooms) or just not there at all.. Whether you like it or not, YOU answer to US. Get used to it, and listen to us.
Hah, apparently I missed this
Submitted by Jiyambi on Sat, 2011-01-08 07:06.
Hah, apparently I missed this while I was on holiday. Awesome when people try to respond without bothering to read anything.
We have all the new zones, if you are too stupid to download an addon from something other then Curse, or at least ask for help if you are having trouble rather than bad mouthing us without any grounds, then you don't deserve to have the results of our hard work.
Honestly? I do this for fun. I don't give a crap if you personally don't use the addon. I'd like the community here to stay active, but I don't think I'd want someone so internet illiterate to be part of our community anyway.
TL;DR - if you can't be bothered to follow the directions quite clearly listed both here and on our other distributors, don't post. And I don't answer to anyone, as I am not being PAID for anything here, so GTFO, KTHXBAI :D
This is funny.
Submitted by savagefool on Thu, 2010-12-23 01:05.
I find it hilarious that people are actually making an account to complain about something that has been given for free for years. As jiyambi said this is a site that is mostly done by volunteers. Please instead of just griping about, read a little and learn how to help. The addon is very simple to use and editing guides is simple once you know what to look for. I won't mention any names but there are sites that make you pay for this stuff and the addons are just as buggy.
I just made an account
Submitted by Dodsangel on Thu, 2010-12-23 00:12.
I just made an account to congratulate you on being an idiotic piece of ****.
You might want to learn to read before going all berserk about something you have no right to judge about.Just quit playing the game, people with attitudes like you ruin it anyway._________Now that I finaly made an account I might aswell just say that I love the addon and I've been using these guides for years. I'm an achievement hunter and these guides really give me what I'm looking for. The week before cataclysm launch I was pretty much on here every day checking on updates for the guides and being all excited about it ;-). Too bad Cataclysm came at a bad time since I'm working my ass of studying at the moment but hey, lots of fun afterwards.Cheers, Dodsangel
Kleandros wrote:It's been
Submitted by Crackerhead22 on Wed, 2010-12-22 18:47.
Kleandros wrote:
It's been over 2 weeks now since the Cataclysm launch and lvls 25-60 are not even covered yet.
As has been mentioned quite a few times IMPORTANT - THE VERSION ON CURSE.COM DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE GUIDES!. You can find it on the addon page under the video. And the paper guides are being slowly done. Those are harder to do than the addon ones.
Kleandros wrote:
everything is outdated (the 60-80 guides are both severely outdated and neep remaking
The fact is the 60-80 guides for the addon ARE being redone (which I currently am working on), which as been mentioned a few times as well. Those were on the back burners for the new stuff.
Kleandros wrote:
I was outleveling them like crazy WITHOUT instances or heirlooms
Speaking of you out leveling the zones, blame Blizzard NOT US! They were the ones that lowered the amount of experience needed, so of course you will out level the zones.
Kleandros wrote:
Whether you like it or not, YOU answer to US. Get used to it, and listen to us.
-shrugs- We can easily just stop making the guides since we are doing this for free. So get off your high horse.
I'm going to assume you got
Submitted by Crackerhead22 on Sat, 2010-12-11 02:11.
I'm going to assume you got the addon via Curse. So I would like to draw your attention to what is wrritten on the Curse page for WoW-Pro Addon: IMPORTANT - THE VERSION ON CURSE.COM DOES NOT HAVE ALL THE GUIDES!
All the guides are available. You have to download from this site. The download link is right under the video on the addon page... So please do a little reading before you jump down throats. And yes, I am being nice.
Submitted by Hooloo on Tue, 2010-11-30 09:13.
I think the guides you have are really great. I leveled my (then) main pally up by myself in Northrend, and deciding I wanted to get my mage up to 80 as well, I used your guide. I saw more of the game and its content with your guide than just questing by myself.
That comes to my suggestion. I'd really rather not print out the whole guide and waste the paper, but it sometimes its difficult to get back on and find your place in the guide from where you left off. You kind of have to guess where you rememeber you were and what quests you have. Is there anyway to index the whole guide, just down the left margin (or somewhere)? That way you could just write down one index number and instantly jump to the appropriate spot and pick up where you left off.
Thanks very much.
Some pre-cata guides actually
Submitted by Maw on Sat, 2010-12-11 22:53.
Some pre-cata guides actually did have indexes, while others did not. It was mostly up to the author.
If you have problems getting back to where you left off, it is not really that hard if you consider a few things. Some guides cover a specific zone and you can therefore by checking which quests you have in your quest log, easily find out where you are in the guide by using ctrl+f in your web-browser and writing the quest name. If guides consist of several zones, they are usually split into several sections. In these cases, you can check which zone you are in and then scroll down to the section covering that zone at the level you are at (assuming you're not ahead nor behind of the guide). The trick of using ctrl+f and searching for quests also apply in these guides.
It should not be that hard finding out where you left off if you analyze the situation your toon is in and make simple assumptions based on that. Now, good luck leveling those abandoned alts! ;)
Last 2 guides...
Submitted by jearbear1620 on Fri, 2010-11-26 18:47.
Hey Jame and friends, 2 years ago i got server first 80 on my deathknight due to your amazing guides.
dont know why...
But im going to shoot for server first 85... was curious if you will have the last 2 guides for 80-85 out by xpac?
they really are a dream come true, and the fastest way to level. Let me know whenever you get a chance.
Submitted by JJ on Thu, 2010-11-25 19:23.
Hi guys,
Can you create an easy place to log bugs?
I came across a few steps that didn't close automatically, but was not sure where to notify you. E.g. www.wow-pro.com/bugs?
I also have a suggestion: To make it easier, please number the quests in the add-on. So if I find a bug I can report it like: "Westfall step 10 got wrong coordinates. Should be x, y" or "Westfall step 10 doesn't close automatically".
This should make it easier for the reporter and the person fixing it.
Keep up the good work with the guides!! Cannot imagine myself without the add-on.
Steps are indeed numbered
Submitted by Jiyambi on Sat, 2010-11-27 18:25.
Steps are indeed numbered within the addon, in a way. If you enable the title-bar, you'll see a step count up next to the zone name.
Ok, I just saw the link to
Submitted by JJ on Fri, 2010-11-26 13:17.
Ok, I just saw the link to Github.
Yeah. If you want, you can
Submitted by Silvann on Fri, 2010-11-26 22:07.
Yeah. If you want, you can also post bugs wherever here on WoWPro and I'll post on github. Thanks!
Southern Barrens - Alliance
Submitted by wkjezz on Thu, 2010-11-25 08:47.
Here is the recorder info for Southern Barrens.
Please note the first two quests + cookie crumb from Stonetallon is not included due to an error (Jiyambi is aware of this as we were conversing as I was making this)
Also For the Silithid Quest, I conducted this out side of the Horde town instead of alliance; due to tiredness and being a hordie usually.
It needs a play through and a polish as well as notes; but was very very quick.
WoWPro.Leveling:RegisterGuide('wkjezz001', 'Southern Barrens', 'wkjezz', '30', '35', 'wkjezz002', 'Alliance', function()
return [[
A Futile Resistance|QID|25186|M|35.00,9.51|N|From Janice Mattingly.|
C Futile Resistance|QID|25186|M|35.21,7.11|
T Futile Resistance|QID|25186|M|38.79,11.45|N|To Commander Singleton.|
A Survey the Destruction|QID|25191|M|39.03,11.44|N|From Nibb Spindlegear.|
f Honor's Stand|QID|25191|M|38.95,10.94|N|At John Johnson.|
h Honor's Stand|QID|25191|M|39.05,11.07|N|At Logistics Officer Renaldo.|
C Survey the Destruction|QID|25191|NC|M|68.47,48.91|
T Survey the Destruction|QID|25191|M|68.60,48.99|N|To Horton Gimbleheart.|
A The Admiral Won't Back Down|QID|25197|M|68.60,48.99|N|From Horton Gimbleheart.|
T The Admiral Won't Back Down|QID|25197|M|69.22,49.07|N|To Admiral Aubrey.|
A Repel Boarders!|QID|24934|M|69.22,49.07|N|From Admiral Aubrey.|
C Repel Boarders!|QID|24934|M|57.43,60.92|Z|Northern Barrens|
T Repel Boarders!|QID|24934|M|57.47,60.97|Z|Northern Barrens|N|To Captain Fisher.|
A The Guns of Northwatch|QID|24938|M|69.23,49.06|N|From Admiral Aubrey.|
A Langridge Shot|QID|24941|M|67.01,46.58|N|From Thomas Paxton.|
C Langridge Shot|QID|24941|M|67.61,46.73|
T Langridge Shot|QID|24941|M|67.02,46.55|N|To Thomas Paxton.|
A Re-Take the Courtyard|QID|24943|M|67.02,46.55|N|From Thomas Paxton.|
A Back in the Fight|QID|24944|M|66.93,46.78|N|From Tolliver Houndstooth.|
C Back in the Fight|QID|24944|U|52014|M|67.06,44.52|
C Re-Take the Courtyard|QID|24943|M|67.54,44.91|
T Back in the Fight|QID|24944|M|66.90,46.73|N|To Tolliver Houndstooth.|
A Silencing Rageroar|QID|24956|M|66.90,46.73|N|From Tolliver Houndstooth.|
L Level 34|QID|24956|LVL|34|N|You should be around level 34 by this point.|
T Re-Take the Courtyard|QID|24943|M|67.02,46.60|N|To Thomas Paxton.|
A Lifting the Siege|QID|24948|M|67.02,46.59|N|From Thomas Paxton.|
T The Guns of Northwatch|QID|24938|M|68.62,44.50|N|To Cannoneer Smythe.|
A Run Out the Guns|QID|24939|M|68.62,44.50|N|From Cannoneer Smythe.|
C Run Out the Guns|QID|24939|M|68.71,44.58|
T Run Out the Guns|QID|24939|M|68.62,44.53|N|To Cannoneer Smythe.|
C Silencing Rageroar|QID|24956|M|68.06,37.25|
C Lifting the Siege|QID|24948|U|52017|M|67.43,37.33|
T Silencing Rageroar|QID|24956|M|66.92,46.73|N|To Tolliver Houndstooth.|
T Lifting the Siege|QID|24948|M|67.03,46.58|N|To Thomas Paxton.|
A Teegan's Troubles|QID|25036|M|67.03,46.58|N|From Thomas Paxton.|
A Scavenged|QID|25002|M|61.84,42.07|N|From Mangled Body.|
C Scavenged|QID|25002|M|61.66,45.36|
T Scavenged|QID|25002|M|56.16,42.71|N|To Corporal Teegan.|
T Teegan's Troubles|QID|25036|M|56.16,42.71|N|To Corporal Teegan.|
A Make 'em Squeal|QID|25015|M|56.16,42.71|N|From Corporal Teegan.|
A A Failure to Communicate|QID|25022|M|56.16,42.71|N|From Corporal Teegan.|
A Filthy Animals|QID|25008|M|56.20,42.54|N|From Goucho.|
C Make 'em Squeal|QID|25015|M|55.56,46.26|
C Filthy Animals|QID|25008|M|54.87,48.69|
C A Failure to Communicate|QID|25022|M|53.15,46.75|
T Filthy Animals|QID|25008|M|56.05,42.51|N|To Goucho.|
T Make 'em Squeal|QID|25015|M|56.12,42.67|N|To Corporal Teegan.|
T A Failure to Communicate|QID|25022|M|56.16,42.69|N|To Corporal Teegan.|
A You Flicked a Fine Vine to Leaf Me|QID|25027|M|56.16,42.69|N|From Corporal Teegan.|
A Trouble From the Ground Up|QID|25028|M|56.16,42.69|N|From Hannah Bridgewater.|
C You Flicked a Fine Vine to Leaf Me|QID|25027|U|52073|M|52.98,49.56|
C Trouble From the Ground Up|QID|25028|M|54.59,44.78|
T You Flicked a Fine Vine to Leaf Me|QID|25027|M|56.11,42.68|N|To Corporal Teegan.|
A To the Front!|QID|25034|M|56.11,42.68|N|From Corporal Teegan.|
T Trouble From the Ground Up|QID|25028|M|50.38,40.72|N|To Naralex.|
A Biological Intervention|QID|24565|M|50.37,40.66|N|From Naralex.|
A Adder Subtraction|QID|24570|M|50.31,40.45|N|From Muyoh.|
A Lashvine Seeds|QID|24571|M|50.31,40.45|N|From Muyoh.|
C Biological Intervention|QID|24565|M|52.46,39.59|
C Adder Subtraction|QID|24570|M|49.87,36.21|
C Lashvine Seeds|QID|24571|M|49.80,35.91|
L Level 35|QID|24571|LVL|35|N|You should be around level 35 by this point.|
T Biological Intervention|QID|24565|M|50.39,40.67|N|To Naralex.|
A To Harvest Chaos|QID|24574|M|50.39,40.67|N|From Naralex.|
T Adder Subtraction|QID|24570|M|50.32,40.49|N|To Muyoh.|
T Lashvine Seeds|QID|24571|M|50.32,40.49|N|To Muyoh.|
A Sowing a Solution|QID|24566|M|50.32,40.49|N|From Muyoh.|
C To Harvest Chaos|QID|24574|M|49.46,40.43|
C Sowing a Solution|QID|24566|U|49882|M|51.42,39.61|
T To Harvest Chaos|QID|24574|M|50.38,40.68|N|To Naralex.|
A The Nightmare Scar|QID|24601|M|50.38,40.68|N|From Naralex.|
T Sowing a Solution|QID|24566|M|50.36,40.50|N|To Muyoh.|
A The Nightmare Scar|QID|24601|M|50.42,40.68|N|From Naralex.|
C The Nightmare Scar|QID|24601|M|48.28,38.59|
T The Nightmare Scar|QID|24601|M|48.23,38.67|N|To Naralex.|
T To the Front!|QID|25034|M|49.99,49.51|N|To Ambassador Gaines.|
A Diplomacy By Another Means|QID|25044|M|49.95,49.56|N|From Ambassador Gaines.|
A Fields of Blood|QID|25043|M|49.92,49.66|N|From General Hawthorne.|
A A Line in the Dirt|QID|25045|M|49.92,49.66|N|From General Hawthorne.|
A Lion's Pride|QID|25041|M|49.77,50.54|N|From Sam Trawley.|
C A Line in the Dirt|QID|25045|M|46.37,47.28|
C Lion's Pride|QID|25041|M|44.47,46.66|
C Fields of Blood|QID|25043|M|44.54,46.88|
C Diplomacy By Another Means|QID|25044|U|49782|M|43.03,41.78|
T Diplomacy By Another Means|QID|25044|M|43.04,41.82|N|To Sabersnout.|
T Fields of Blood|QID|25043|M|49.91,49.68|N|To General Hawthorne.|
T A Line in the Dirt|QID|25045|M|49.91,49.68|N|To General Hawthorne.|
T Lion's Pride|QID|25041|M|49.77,50.50|N|To Sam Trawley.|
A Marching On Our Stomachs|QID|25042|M|49.77,50.49|N|From Sam Trawley.|
A Clap 'Em In Irons|QID|25057|M|49.90,49.70|N|From General Hawthorne.|
A The Taurajo Briefs|QID|25059|M|49.98,49.47|N|From Ambassador Gaines.|
C Marching On Our Stomachs|QID|25042|M|51.66,53.87|
C The Taurajo Briefs|QID|25059|M|44.02,51.71|
C Clap 'Em In Irons|QID|25057|U|52271|M|43.40,51.53|
T Marching On Our Stomachs|QID|25042|M|49.77,50.53|N|To Sam Trawley.|
T Clap 'Em In Irons|QID|25057|M|49.93,49.71|N|To General Hawthorne.|
A Meet Me at Triumph|QID|25074|M|49.93,49.71|N|From General Hawthorne.|
T The Taurajo Briefs|QID|25059|M|49.98,49.47|N|To Ambassador Gaines.|
f Fort Triumph|QID|25074|M|49.23,67.79|N|At Steve Stevenson.|
T Meet Me at Triumph|QID|25074|M|49.09,66.94|N|To Commander Roberts.|
h Fort Triumph|QID|25074|M|49.06,68.53|N|At Logistics Officer Salista.|
A Claim the Battlescar|QID|25081|M|49.09,66.91|N|From Commander Roberts.|
A Pick-a-Part|QID|25075|M|49.48,67.49|N|From Mizzy Pistonhammer.|
A Just Close Enough|QID|26983|M|49.47,67.54|N|From Mizzy Pistonhammer.|
A Working the Bugs Out|QID|25082|M|49.24,67.85|N|From Logan Talonstrike.|
C Pick-a-Part|QID|25075|M|44.63,71.34|
L Level 36|QID|25082|LVL|36|N|You should be around level 36 by this point.|
C Claim the Battlescar|QID|25081|NC|M|44.98,67.67|
C Working the Bugs Out|QID|25082|U|50128|M|41.64,67.08|
T Working the Bugs Out|QID|25082|M|49.22,67.84|N|To Logan Talonstrike.|
A Firestone Point|QID|25086|M|49.22,67.84|N|From Logan Talonstrike.|
T Pick-a-Part|QID|25075|M|49.47,67.54|N|To Mizzy Pistonhammer.|
A Powder Play|QID|25079|M|49.47,67.54|N|From Mizzy Pistonhammer.|
T Claim the Battlescar|QID|25081|M|49.10,66.92|N|To Commander Roberts.|
A Report to Twinbraid|QID|25087|M|49.10,66.92|N|From Commander Roberts.|
C Powder Play|QID|25079|M|45.36,68.14|
T Powder Play|QID|25079|M|49.46,67.52|N|To Mizzy Pistonhammer.|
A Batteries Not Yet Included|QID|25080|M|49.46,67.52|N|From Mizzy Pistonhammer.|
C Batteries Not Yet Included|QID|25080|M|48.48,72.70|
T Batteries Not Yet Included|QID|25080|M|49.46,67.53|N|To Mizzy Pistonhammer.|
T Report to Twinbraid|QID|25087|M|43.52,78.28|N|To General Twinbraid.|
A Digsite Status|QID|25104|M|43.52,78.28|N|From General Twinbraid.|
A No Bull|QID|25102|M|43.46,78.26|N|From Hurlston Stonesthrow.|
C No Bull|QID|25102|M|43.94,77.52|
T No Bull|QID|25102|M|43.48,78.22|N|To Hurlston Stonesthrow.|
T Firestone Point|QID|25086|M|45.02,85.35|N|To Dorn Redearth.|
A A Growing Threat|QID|25084|M|45.03,85.33|N|From Dorn Redearth.|
A The Disturbed Earth|QID|24824|M|45.11,85.35|N|From Tauna Skychaser.|
C The Disturbed Earth|QID|24824|M|48.27,79.24|
A Blood of the Barrens|QID|24606|M|42.35,79.07|
C A Growing Threat|QID|25084|M|42.35,82.45|
C Blood of the Barrens|QID|24606|M|42.43,81.36|
T A Growing Threat|QID|25084|M|45.04,85.33|N|To Dorn Redearth.|
A Mangletooth|QID|25085|M|45.04,85.33|N|From Dorn Redearth.|
T The Disturbed Earth|QID|24824|M|45.07,85.32|N|To Tauna Skychaser.|
T Blood of the Barrens|QID|24606|M|45.14,85.40|N|To Mahka.|
A Echoes of Agamaggan|QID|24653|M|45.14,85.40|N|From Mahka.|
C Echoes of Agamaggan|QID|24653|M|40.47,83.25|
C Mangletooth|QID|25085|M|38.06,81.90|
T Echoes of Agamaggan|QID|24653|M|45.15,85.40|N|To Mahka.|
L Level 37|QID|24653|LVL|37|N|You should be around level 37 by this point.|
T Mangletooth|QID|25085|M|45.05,85.35|N|To Dorn Redearth.|
T Digsite Status|QID|25104|M|47.14,88.47|N|To Marley Twinbraid.|
A Hands Off Me Dig!|QID|25106|M|47.15,88.49|N|From Marley Twinbraid.|
A Feegly the Exiled|QID|25108|M|47.15,88.49|N|From Marley Twinbraid.|
C Feegly the Exiled|QID|25108|M|48.79,88.75|
C Hands Off Me Dig!|QID|25106|M|49.02,89.43|
T Hands Off Me Dig!|QID|25106|M|47.18,88.51|N|To Marley Twinbraid.|
T Feegly the Exiled|QID|25108|M|47.18,88.51|N|To Marley Twinbraid.|
A Marley's Final Flight|QID|25120|M|47.18,88.51|N|From Marley Twinbraid.|
C Marley's Final Flight|QID|25120|M|49.22,86.62|
T Marley's Final Flight|QID|25120|M|49.25,86.69|N|To Marley Twinbraid.|
A He Needs Ale!|QID|25151|M|49.25,86.69|N|From Marley Twinbraid.|
A Bael'dun Rescue|QID|25153|M|49.40,86.88|N|From Bael'dun Survivor.|
A Who Did This?|QID|25163|M|49.62,87.15|N|From Wounded Bael'dun Officer.|
T Who Did This?|QID|25163|M|50.25,87.08|N|To Weezil Slipshadow.|
A Twinbraid Needs to Know|QID|25174|M|50.25,87.08|N|From Weezil Slipshadow.|
C Bael'dun Rescue|QID|25153|M|50.61,85.85|
C He Needs Ale!|QID|25151|M|50.64,86.80|
T Bael'dun Rescue|QID|25153|M|49.43,86.91|N|To Bael'dun Survivor.|
T He Needs Ale!|QID|25151|M|49.28,86.70|N|To Marley Twinbraid.|
A The Bad News|QID|25175|M|49.28,86.70|N|From Marley Twinbraid.|
A Kill 'em All!|QID|25182|M|43.49,78.29|Z|Southern Barrens|N|From General Twinbraid.|
A ...And Bury the Rest|QID|25183|M|43.49,78.29|Z|Southern Barrens|N|From General Twinbraid.|
C Kill 'em All!|QID|25182|M|39.90,76.08|Z|Southern Barrens|
C ...And Bury the Rest|QID|25183|M|40.02,75.24|Z|Southern Barrens|
T ...And Bury the Rest|QID|25183|M|40.39,77.74|Z|Southern Barrens|N|To Frazzlecraz Miner.|
A The Deed Is Done|QID|25185|M|40.39,77.74|Z|Southern Barrens|N|From Frazzlecraz Miner.|
T Kill 'em All!|QID|25182|M|43.50,78.30|Z|Southern Barrens|N|To General Twinbraid.|
T The Deed Is Done|QID|25185|M|43.50,78.30|Z|Southern Barrens|N|To General Twinbraid.|
A Reinforcements From Theramore|QID|26687|M|43.50,78.30|Z|Southern Barrens|N|From General Twinbraid.|
Wow! Excellent! Nice work!
Submitted by Bitsem on Thu, 2010-11-25 08:59.
Wow! Excellent! Nice work!
Things I never thought I'd say...
"Your brother is not a dog! Get that leash off of him!"
From what I can tell; No
Submitted by wkjezz on Thu, 2010-11-25 10:57.
From what I can tell; No major changes are needed for Duskwallow Marsh (A) - Remove some of the way points for navigation (as a bridge leads right across to theremor) remove cortello's riddle quest info and it SHOULD be pretty much up to date.
Submitted by Dewm_Knight86 on Tue, 2010-11-23 01:00.
I have beta and can be a guide tester.
beta ended today
Submitted by nitrous on Tue, 2010-11-23 02:46.
beta ended today
Submitted by noelt on Sun, 2010-11-21 18:59.
Very Good Guides you have there!
Less experience needed to level up from 71-80 in patch 4.0.3a
Submitted by Agusum on Sat, 2010-11-20 14:36.
As it was announced here: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/134406/403a-what-is-in-it-what-is-not
Experience required to gain levels 71 through 80 is being reduced by 20%.
So I believe that now many of the 71-80 guides' steps could be removed since less experience is needed to level up.
The paper guides will not
Submitted by Jiyambi on Sat, 2010-11-20 18:53.
The paper guides will not likely be altered.
The addon guides will be updated (when we get to it - the new content has priority right now) so that you can change a setting and skip un-important quests. All of the quests will remain in the addon, however, for those seeking lore-master achievements - they just need to use a higher completion setting
Cataclysm Leveling Guides 1-85
Submitted by Geanor on Sun, 2010-11-14 15:47.
Sorry but I can't find the link to see the guide in itself ?? Help
Great Addon, great guides
Submitted by Nagrad on Fri, 2010-11-12 21:53.
I've really appreciated all the work you guys have done. I am currently playing my way through the beta (leveling my main to 85 to get a feel for the fastest way to do it (hoping for server first Mage on Burning Blade). If there's anything I can do to help along the way please let me know. I'll be running the addon as I go and will report any issues I come across as well.
If you'd like, you can
Submitted by Jiyambi on Sat, 2010-11-13 00:20.
If you'd like, you can download our Cataclysm package and the guide recorder addon from this guide page: http://www.wow-pro.com/guide_writing/using_wowpro_recorder
I'll be uploading a new package there this weekend with about twice as many Cata guides in it.
Basically, each zone you start create a new guide and hit record. It will automatically record your progress. You can then post the recording here, and it will help us get a start on the guide for that zone! The guide I linked above explains how to do this in more detail.
However, if that's too much work, just letting us know of any bugs or mistakes you find is awesome too
WowPro Leveling Guides not showing up
Submitted by wisemoon on Mon, 2010-11-29 22:27.
Hi guys,
I downloaded what I think is the latest version of the addon (2.03) and installed it, but it is only showing a handful of guides for the new Cataclysm-era content. All I can see in the list are the starting area guides, then it goes up to the DK guides, Outlands and Northrend.
I looked on the page that had the addon with the recorder, but it looked like that was actually an older version than 2.03, so I wasn't sure it would help.
Today I can't even access the addon-specific pages on the site, so I don't know what to do. The info on your site seems to indicate that there are a lot more guides available than are showing up in-game in my addon, but I can't figure out why. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
Very sorry for the
Submitted by Jiyambi on Tue, 2010-11-30 01:06.
Very sorry for the confusion!
People are writing guides faster than I can get updates in!
There will be an update tonight for the addon, but make sure to get it here on WoW-Pro - otherwise you won't get all the new guides, as we will be releasing them more slowly to Curse and WoW Interface.
afaik there are more guides
Submitted by Shakazahn on Mon, 2010-11-29 23:47.
afaik there are more guides done, but not yet added in the latest release.
Jiyambi will add them asap. :)
pro·gram·mer: a device to convert coffee into software
From what I remember, the new
Submitted by Crackerhead22 on Mon, 2010-11-29 22:34.
From what I remember, the new guides haven't been put in just yet. Think the last release or two were bug fixes.
Step notes
Submitted by Malorajan on Wed, 2010-11-10 22:55.
Should every step pretty much have a note? I was thinking when I go through the first time I would just quest the zone and get it done asap, then go back and test a second time but take my time a bit so that I can look for things that would be noteworthy. But my main question is whether or not each step should have a note.
Not every step needs notes,
Submitted by Gylin on Wed, 2010-11-10 23:36.
Not every step needs notes, or even mapcords for that matter. To better explain here's a chunk from the gnome starter guide:
T Get Me Explosives Back! |QID|26285| |M|33.12,48.70| |N|To Jessup McCree|
T Missing in Action |QID|26284|
A Finishin' the Job |QID|26318|
R Enter the cave here |NC| |QID|26318| |M|31.98,49.20| |N|Enter the cave and run through it keeping to the left as you go| |C|Mage,Priest,Rogue,Warrior|
R Enter the cave here |NC| |QID|26318| |M|31.98,49.20| |N|Dismiss your Imp, then enter the cave and run through it keeping to the left as you go| |C|Warlock|
K Boss Bruggor |QID|26318| |M|29.12,49.61| |T|Boss Bruggor| |QO|Boss Bruggor slain: 1/1|
C Blow up the tunnel |NC| |QID|26318| |M|29.11,48.50| |QO|Detonate trogg tunnel: 1/1|
T Finishin' the Job |QID|26318| |M|33.12,48.70| |N|To Jessup McCree| |C|Mage,Priest,Rogue,Warrior|
T Finishin' the Job |QID|26318| |M|33.12,48.70| |N|To Jessup McCree, and resummon your Imp| |C|Warlock|
The 2nd & 3rd lines I feel don't need either notes or cords as your already standing at the quest giver. The 2 "R" steps next help the user with where to go once they get in the cave, and in the case of Warlocks help them not to pull sleeping mobs they can just walk past (noisy Imp = aggromagnet). The "K" step a note is not needed as it would only convey the same information as the |QO| tag, eg the kill the named mob, same with the "C" step that follows it. Final 2 "T" steps, separated because Warlock can now safely resummon their Imp, and the note is a reminder to do so, as well as giving the normal npc name to whom we've returned to turn the quest into type note.
Use notes however you feel is needed to help make your guide clearer to use, or that with something the end user might not know about a quest (especially if they're like me and don't read questlog text! )
C Dwarven Artifacts |NC||S| |QID|24477| |N|Scattered on the ground, they look like little piles of snow| |QO|Forgotten Dwarven Artifact: 5/5|
This is a good example to show this, as without the note the user might be looking for some little statues or relics of some kind, not little piles of snow (about the size of a snowball) in an area covered in snow.
The best way to help is by
Submitted by Jiyambi on Tue, 2010-11-09 04:41.
The best way to help is by recording your questing! This is assuming you are playing in the beta.
Here's a guide on how to do this: Using the WoW-Pro Recorder
Thanks for the interest!
Access denied
Submitted by Chowdog on Sun, 2010-11-14 05:12.
I get that msg every page I go to now. I don't know if it's a problem with the new website or something else.
It was an issue in the
Submitted by Jiyambi on Sun, 2010-11-14 16:08.
It was an issue in the website update, it's fixed now. Thanks for letting us know!
Addon test
Submitted by typas on Sun, 2010-11-07 16:13.
Hi iam ready for addon test.
i have beta


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