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This new version of the Camera Raw plug-in replaces the original Camera Raw plug-in that was installed with Adobe® Photoshop Elements 8 software.
Important notice:
Read the following installation instructions carefully. Incorrect installation will prevent Adobe Bridge and Camera Raw 5.7 from reading raw images correctly.
Support for the following cameras has been added in this update. Visit the Camera Raw page for a complete list of supported cameras.
The Camera Raw 5.7 plug-in is not compatible with versions of Photoshop earlier than Photoshop CS4 or versions of Photoshop Elements earlier than Photoshop Elements 8.
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See the system requirements for Adobe Photoshop Elements 8.
To open a DMG file:
Double-click the file. This will open Disk Copy, which mounts the image on your desktop.
To install with Adobe Photoshop Elements 8:
NOTE: You must follow all of the new instructions in order to successfully install the Camera Raw Plug-in for Photoshop Elements
1. Exit Photoshop Elements and Adobe Bridge
2. Open the download file and double-click CameraProfiles.dmg and follow the on-screen instructions.
3. Navigate to the root of the local disk (not the user's home folder).
4. Navigate to: (Please read directory carefully)
Applications/Adobe Photoshop Elements 8/Plug-Ins/FileFormats/
5. Copy the existing plug-in to another location (for example, a new folder on your desktop). Ensure you keep this version in case you need to revert back.
6. Copy the Camera Raw plug-in, Camera Raw, from the download into the same folder as in Step 4, and overwrite the exiting file.
7. Launch Photoshop Elements or Adobe Bridge.
NOTE: If generic camera thumbnails appear in Adobe Bridge, follow these steps:
1. Check to make sure the plug-in was installed in the correct directory in Step 5 above.
2. Start Adobe Bridge.
3. Choose Tools > Cache > Purge Central Cache.
Important: Purging the Central Cache deletes cached thumbnail information for all folders. It also deletes labels, ratings, and rotation settings for read-only files (for example, files on a CD or locked files) or file formats that don't have XMP support.
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Hundreds of friends and family bid farewell Sunday to the mother and 8-year-old son who died last week from a fire in their Hempstead Village apartment, including the little boy's father, who sobbed at his casket.
Guadalupe Ramirez, 37, and Fernando Rodriguez, 8, will be buried at Greenfield Cemetery in Uniondale on Tuesday after the community rallied to support the family.
Ramirez died Feb. 10, a day after the blaze broke out in her one-bedroom third-floor apartment at 17 St. Paul's Rd. North. Fernando died in the fire. She leaves a 6-year-old daughter, Abby, and a 16-year-old son, Kenny Arias.
Toward the conclusion of the wake at Hempstead Funeral Home, when the crowd had already gone, Fernando's father, Rafael Garcia Rodriguez, 37, of Hempstead, walked into the room where his son and Ramirez lay. She was in an open, light-purple coffin and his son in a closed white one.
He knelt down to say goodbye to Ramirez, then got up and knelt beside his son's coffin and stretched out his hand to touch it. He then stood, stepped back and began to sob.
"I can't believe this happened," Rodriguez said in Spanish afterward, adding that the last time he saw his son was the day before the fire. "He was such a loving boy. He always told me he wanted to be a doctor. To help others."
Family friends said Kenny Arias, the little boy's older brother, was staying at a friend's house the day the fire broke out and is suffering from survivor's guilt because he was not at home. He declined to talk Sunday.
Ramirez's mother, Ana, lives with her 23-year-old daughter in Hempstead. She said she would care for the two surviving grandchildren. Rodriguez is not able to care for his daughter financially and said he feels she would be better off with her grandmother.
Until Thursday, the family had no idea how they were going to pay the thousands of dollars needed to cover funeral expenses.
But community activist Sergio Argueta, who founded the nonprofit STRONG Youth Inc., which works to divert young people from street gangs, held a news conference asking for donations after Hempstead High School guidance counselors said the family needed help.
Rahsmia Zatar, executive director of the organization, praised the response from the community and businesses.
"Within 48 hours we were able to raise about $10,000," she said. "People have been amazing. Both of the [surviving] kids, as you can imagine, have been really struggling. . . . This is just the beginning of a very long road."
Ana Ramirez, 53, said the family is trying to figure how they are going live in a one-bedroom apartment with her daughter, who is married with a toddler.
"I just ask God to help me take care of these children," she said. They [Ramirez and Fernando] are always going to be in my heart and in my mind. In me."

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Our commitment to protect dignity and human privacy
Information regarding the personal data processing policy pursuant to Article 13 of Legislative Decree No. 196/2003, in addition to EU Regulation 679/2016
Brunello Cucinelli S.p.A., in our capacity as Data Controller
(hereinafter referred to as:
"Brunello Cucinelli" or
"Data Controller")
according to Legislative Decree no. 196/2003 ("Code"), as well as EU Regulation 679/2016
referred to as "Regulation") - considers the privacy and protection of personal data to be one of
company's main objectives. Consequently, we invite you to carefully read this Privacy Policy before
any personal data to the Data Controller, because it contains important information regarding the
of your personal data.
This Privacy Policy:
- • is provided in relation to the websites https://shop.brunellocucinelli.com and https://shop.brunellocucinelli.cn (hereinafter referred to as the "Website");
- • is an integral part of the Website and the services we offer;
- • is provided to those who interact with the web services of the Website, either through simple consultation or through the use of specific services made available through the Website (for example, purchasing products, filling out online forms to request information or subscribing to the Newsletter service) pursuant to art. 13 of the Code, as well as article 13 of the Regulation.
The processing of your personal
data shall follow the principles of correctness, lawfulness, transparency, purpose and retention
minimisation, accuracy, integrity and confidentiality, as well as the principle of accountability
to art. 5 of the Regulation. Therefore, your personal data will be processed in accordance with the
legislative provisions stipulated in the Regulation and the confidentiality obligations prescribed therein.
Personal data processing means any operation or set of operations which is carried out on personal data or on sets of personal data, whether or not by automated means, such as collection, recording, organisation, structuring, storage, adaptation or alteration, retrieval, consultation, use, disclosure by transmission, dissemination or otherwise making available, alignment or combination, restriction, erasure or destruction.
Below is the index of this Privacy Policy so that you can easily find the information pertinent to the processing of your personal data that concerns you.
- a. Web browsing data
- b. Data provided voluntarily by the user
- c. Third party data voluntarily provided by the user
- d. Special categories of data
- e. Cookie
The Data Controller is Brunello Cucinelli S.p.A. with registered office in Corciano (PG, Italy), hamlet of Solomeo, Viale Parco dell'Industria no. 5, tax code and registration number of the Perugia Register of Companies 0188612054. The Data Protection Officer of Brunello Cucinelli S.p.A. can be contacted at the headquarters of the Data Controller at the address indicated above and by email at: email@example.com
We inform you that the
personal data being processed may consist of a form of identification, such as a name, an
number, location data, an online identifier or one or more characteristic elements of your physical,
physiological, psychological, economic, cultural or social identity that is suitable to render the data
identified or identifiable, depending on the type of services requested (hereinafter only referred to as
The following personal data is processed through the Website:
- a. Web browsing data
- b. Data voluntarily provided by the user
- c. Third party data voluntarily provided by the user
- d. Cookies and other tracking technologies
During their normal course of operation, the computer
systems and software procedures used to operate this
Website acquire certain personal data, the transmission
of which is implicit in the use of internet communication
protocols. This information is not collected
with the intent of associating it with identified users
but, by its nature, it could lead to the identification
of users through processing and association with
data held by third parties. This category of data includes
IP addresses or domain names of computers
used by users who connect to the Website, the URI (Uniform
Resource Identifier) addresses of requested
resources, the time of the request, the method used to submit
the request to the server, the size of
the file received in reply, the numerical code indicating the
status of the reply given by the server
(successful, error, etc.) and other parameters regarding the
user's operating system and computer environment.
This data is used for the sole purpose of obtaining
anonymous statistical information on the use of the
Website to check its correct functioning, to identify
anomalies and/or misuses; in any event, they are
deleted immediately after processing. The data could
be used to ascertain responsibility in the event
of hypothetical computer crimes to the detriment of
the Website or third parties.
Except for specific information contained therein, this Privacy
Policy is also intended for the processing
of data voluntarily inserted by you when filling out the
various forms contained on the Website. With
reference to the latter, we invite you not to include information
that may fall within the group of special
categories of personal data pursuant to art. 9 of the Regulation
([...] personal data revealing racial
or ethnic origin, political opinions, religious or philosophical
beliefs, or trade union membership,
genetic data, biometric data intended to uniquely identify a natural
person, data relative to a person's
health, sex life or sexual orientation).
using the services offered by the Website, the personal data you communicate to Brunello Cucinelli
be processed by third parties (such as in the case of purchasing products to be sent to third
With respect to these hypotheses, you become the autonomous data controller, assuming all legal
and responsibilities. To this effect, you fully indemnify us against any objection, claim, request
compensation for damages from processing, etc. that the Data Controller receives from third parties
personal data has been processed, through your use of the Website's services, in violation of the
rules on the protection of personal data. In any event, if you provide or otherwise process
data of third parties when using the Website, as of now, you guarantee that this particular
of data processing is based, where necessary, on the prior acquisition - by yourself - of the
of the third party to process information concerning him/her and you assume all related liability.
on cookies used by the Website is available
Your personal data will be processed, with your consent where necessary, for the following purposes, where applicable:
- 3.1. to allow navigation of the Website and the delivery of services made available by the Data Controller, including the management of the Website's security, as well as the contractual and administrative/accounting relationships;
- 3.2. to inspect specific requests addressed to the Data Controller, including any requests for Customer Assistance sent by completing the "Contact Us" form;
- 3.3. to fulfil any obligations stipulated by applicable laws, regulations or European legislation, or to satisfy requests from authorities;
- 3.4. to conduct direct marketing via email for products which are similar to those you have already purchased, pursuant to art. 130, paragraph 4 of the Code, unless you have expressly refused to receive such communications, which you may express during registration on the Website or on subsequent occasions;
- 3.5. to send you promotional and marketing communications, which includes sending you newsletters and market research, through automated tools (SMS, MMS, email, push notifications, fax) and other means (paper mail, telephone with operator); please note that the Data Controller collects a single affirmation of consent for the marketing purposes described here, in accordance with the Provision issued by the Italian Data Protection Authority "Guidelines on promotional activities and obstructing spam" of 4 July 2013; if, in any event, you wish to object to the processing of your data for marketing purposes carried out with the means specified here, you may contact the Data Controller at any time, at the addresses indicated in the "Contact" section of this Privacy Policy, without prejudice to the lawfulness of the processing based on the consent given before the revocation;
- 3.6. to analyse your preferences, habits and choices as a consumer, in order to send you personalised commercial communications and proposals as well as to carry out general analyses for strategic orientation and commercial intelligence purposes;
- 3.7. to communicate your personal data to other companies belonging to the Brunello Cucinelli Group for the purposes of sending you their promotional and marketing communications, including newsletters and market research, using both automated tools (SMS, MMS, email, push notifications, fax) and other means (paper mail, telephone);
- 3.8. for statistical purposes, without it being possible to trace your identity.
Specific security measures have been implemented in order to prevent data loss, illicit or incorrect use of data and unauthorised access.
The legal basis for processing personal
data for the purposes set out in section 3.1 and 3.2 is art. 6 ( 1 )(b) of
the Regulation ([...] processing
is necessary for the performance of a contract to which the data subject is
a party or for the execution
of pre-contractual measures taken at the request of the same), inasmuch as processing
is necessary for
the provision of services. The provision of personal data for these purposes is optional, but
to provide it would make it impossible to activate the services requested.
The purpose referred to in section 3.3 represents a legitimate processing of personal data pursuant to art. 6 ( 1 )(c) of the Regulation ([...] processing is necessary for compliance with a legal obligation to which the Data Controller is subject). In fact, once the personal data has been conferred, the processing must comply with the legal obligations to which the Data Controller is subject.
Data processing carried out for the purposes of marketing, profiling and communication to Third party companies of the Group described in section 3.5, 3.6 and 3.7 are based on the issuance of your consent pursuant to art. 6 ( 1 )(a) ([...] the data subject has consented to the processing of his/her personal data for one or more specific purposes) and to art. 22 ( 2 )(c) of the Regulation. Therefore, the provision of your personal data for these purposes is entirely optional and does not affect the use of the services. If you wish to object to the processing of your data for marketing, profiling or communication purposes, you may contact the Data Controller, at any time, using the contact details provided in the "Contact Us" section of this Privacy Policy or, where available, via the "privacy settings" found within your personal area. With reference to the purpose referred to in point 3.4, please note that if the Data Controller uses the electronic mail details provided by the data subject for the purposes of direct sales of its products or services, in the context of the sale of a product, it may, according to art. 130, paragraph 4 of the Code, refrain from requesting the consent of the data subject, provided that the products are similar to those bought by the data subject, who is properly informed and does not refuse such use, initially or on the occasion of subsequent communications. It should also be noted that the processing referred to in section 3.8 is not carried out on personal data and, as such, can be freely performed by the Data Controller.
Your personal data may be shared, for the purposes set out in section 3 of this Privacy Policy, with:
- 5.1. subjects that typically act as data processing supervisors pursuant to art. 29 of the Code and 28 of the Regulation, namely: i) persons, companies or professional firms that provide assistance and advice to Brunello Cucinelli on accounting, administrative, legal, tax and financial matters; ii) subjects delegated to carry out technical maintenance activities; iii) credit institutions and insurance companies and brokers;
- 5.2. persons, entities or authorities who require the communication of your personal information as mandated by law or by order of the authorities;
- 5.3.. persons authorised by the Data Controller, pursuant to art. 30 of the Code and 29 of the Regulation, to process the personal data necessary to carry out activities strictly related to the provision of services, who are committed to respecting your confidentiality or have an appropriate legal confidentiality obligation;
- 5.4. Brunello Cucinelli Group companies, limited to the pursuit of internal administrative purposes;
- 5.5. Brunello Cucinelli Group companies, limited to the pursuit of the purposes set out in point 3.7, subject to your explicit consent (as specified in point 4).
These subjects are collectively defined as
A complete list of data processing supervisors is available by sending a written request to the Data Controller at the addresses indicated in the "Contact Us" section of this Privacy Policy.
Some of your personal data is shared with Recipients that may be situated outside the European Economic Area. The Data Controller ensures that these Recipients process your personal data in compliance with articles 43 and 44 of the Code, as well as articles 44 - 49 of the Regulation. Indeed, transfers can be based on an adequacy decision or on the Standard Contractual Clauses approved by the European Commission. More information is available by sending a written request to the Data Controller at the addresses indicated in the "Contact Us" section of this Privacy Policy.
data that is processed for the purposes set out in sections 3.1 and 3.2 will be kept for the time
necessary to achieve those same purposes. With regard to information processed for the provision
services, the Data Controller will keep this personal data for the period of time envisaged and
by Italian law to protect its own interests (Article 2946 of the Italian Civil Code and ff.).
Personal data processed for the purposes set out in section 3.3 will be kept up until the time stipulated by the specific obligation or applicable law.
For the purposes set out in section 3.4, your personal data will be processed until you present an objection to its processing.
For the purposes set out in section 3.5 and 3.6, your personal data will be processed for a maximum period of seven years, starting from its registration, in accordance with what is stipulated in the provision issued by the Italian Data Protection Authority for the protection of personal data following a request for prior verification pursuant to art. 17 of the Code presented by the Data Controller. Further information regarding the data retention period and the criteria used to determine this period may be requested via a written request sent to the Data Controller at the addresses indicated in the "Contact Us" section of Privacy Policy. In any case, the Data Controller is granted the possibility to keep your personal data for the period of time provided and allowed for by Italian law to protect their interests (Article 2947 ( 1 )( 3 ) of the Italian Civil Code).
Pursuant to art. 7 of the Code, at any time, you have the right to obtain
confirmation of the existence or
otherwise of your personal data and to know its content and origin,
verify its accuracy or request its
integration, updating, or rectification; you have the right to request
the cancellation, transformation
into anonymous form or blocking of data processed in breach of the
law, and to oppose, in any event,
and for legitimate reasons, its processing. Starting from 25 May 2018
you also have the right to request
access to your data, to oppose its processing, to request the limitation
of its processing in the cases
provided for by art. 18 of the Regulation, where technically possible,
as well as obtaining the data
concerning yourself in a structured common-use format that is readable
via an automatic device, in the
cases provided for by art. 20 of the Regulation.
Requests should be sent in writing to the Data Controller at the addresses indicated in the "Contact Us" section of this Privacy Policy.
In any case, you are always entitled to lodge a complaint with the competent supervisory authority (Italian Data Protection Authority), pursuant to art. 77 of the Regulation, if you consider the processing of your data to be in violation of the law in force.
The Data Controller reserves the right to modify or simply update its content, wholly or partially, also as a result of variations in the applicable legislation. Therefore, the Data Controller invites you to regularly visit this section to keep up-to-date with the most recent and updated version of the Privacy Policy in order to always be informed on the data collected and how Brunello Cucinelli uses it.
To exercise the above rights or for any other requests, please write to the Data Controller at the physical address indicated above, or via the dedicated contact details, preferably inserting the wording "request for exercise of privacy rights" in the subject field of the communication.
- 1. Customers
- 2. Acceptance of an Order – Contract of Sale
- 3. Payments
- 4. Shipping and deliveries
- 5. Prices
- 6. Vouchers and discount codes
- 7. Defective and non-conforming Products – Guarantee
- 8. Exchange and return of Products – Right of cancellation
- 9. Applicable law and disputes
- 10. Communications or complaints
- 11. Miscellaneous
The Terms and Conditions of Sale for the purchase
of products by Brunello Cucinelli ("Products")
displayed on this site ("Site") owned and managed
by Brunello Cucinelli S.p.A. ("Brunello Cucinelli"
or, alternatively, the "Seller"), are included
in the present contract of sale ("Contract").
Every user visiting the Site ("User") is invited to view the Contract before completing an order for purchase of Products on the Site ("Order"). The purchase of Products on this Site implies the acceptance of these Terms and Conditions of Sale.
Any modification or amendment to these Terms and Conditions of Sale will immediately become effective after being published on this Site and will regulate all the subsequent sales of Products.
1. Customers
The purchase of Products on this Site is allowed only
to customers ("Customers")
- meaning natural
persons, eligible to execute and perform binding
agreements according to the applicable law or under
parental (or
guardian) consent, when needed, outside of any business or professional
When submitting an Order, Customers must provide all the personal information required by this Site, including but not limited to their own first name, surname, birth date, email address, billing and delivery address. All such information must be true, accurate and up to date.
Users cannot make any purchase under someone else's identity unless strictly authorised to do so by the identity holder.
Products sold on this Site are not meant for resale.
2. Acceptance of an Order – Contract of sale
Following the electronic
submission of an Order, the Customer will receive a specific email confirming receipt of the Order.
Such communication serves to notify the Customers that the Order has been received, and to provide them with the relevant unique identifying number for the Order. That does not in any way represent acceptance of the Order on the part of the Seller. If any piece of information in the confirmation email appears incorrect, the Customer must promptly inform the Seller's customer service ("Customer Service") via email to: email@example.com or via the link included in the confirmation email.
The acceptance of the Order on the part of the Seller will take place only when the latter sends the purchase confirmation to the Customer by email ("Purchase confirmation"), usually at the same time as the despatch of the Products. The relevant Contract should be considered finalised at the time of receipt of the Purchase confirmation on the part of the Customer.
Before that time, the Seller reserves the right to refuse acceptance of an Order at its discretion. In particular, the Seller shall not be responsible, in any way, in the event that a Product that has been ordered is removed from the Site following the submission of the relevant Order. It may in fact occur that the Site erroneously displays Products that are not available at that time.
In the case of partial unavailability of the Order, Customer Service will contact the Customer in order to confirm that the Customer wishes to (a) receive a partial Order, (b) the complete Order over numerous deliveries, or (c) to cancel the Order.
In the case of total unavailability of the Order, however, the Customer Service will contact the Customer in order to inform the Customer that the Order will not be processed, and will cancel the relevant Order. In such case, no charge will be imposed in relation to the Customer.
3. Payments
Orders may be made using major credit cards, debit cards
or other methods of payment available on the Site (collectively, the "Payment
The Seller will proceed to charge the price of the purchase, as defined below ("Price"), at the same time as the acceptance of the Order. However, prior to the acceptance of the Order, security checks may be carried out regarding the Payment method chosen by the Customer for the Order, or a pre-authorisation or a pre-charge for the sake of caution.
The Seller uses a primary gateway for the authorisation of payments for Orders ("Payment gateway"); as a result, the Seller will not directly manage any financial information relating to the Payment method used by the Customer, nor will the Site process any financial information provided for the completion of the Order.
The Payment Gateway protects the details of the credit or debit card used, encrypting sensitive information in order to ensure that they are transmitted securely. The Site uses Secure Socket Layer (SSL) technology in order to guarantee a higher level of security for every Order.
In the unlikely event of error, negligence or any wrongdoing in relation to the management of the transaction linked to an Order by the Payment Gateway and/or the intermediary systems for payment, neither the Seller nor the Site will be responsible for such error, negligence or wrongdoing.
The Seller reserves the right to cancel a transaction and the relevant Order in the event that it appears that fraudulent use is being made of the Payment method adopted for the Order. Moreover, the Seller and the Site will not be responsible in the event that illegal use is made of a Payment method by third parties which is not connected to any error or negligence by the Site or the Seller.
4. Shipping and deliveries
The Seller despatches and delivers the Orders using major couriers.
The Seller commits itself to deliver the Orders to Customers in a precise and timely manner, in conformity with the terms of delivery shown on the Site at checkout and, in every case, within 30 (thirty) days from the date of notification of the Purchase confirmation to the Customer.
The Purchase Confirmation is usually sent to the Customer at the time the Products are despatched to the courier for delivery.
In certain circumstances, such as, for example, during sales periods or the closure of the business, delivery times may vary. The Seller shall not be held responsible for delays in delivery that are not connected to its fault or negligence. To this extent, the Seller shall be exempt from responsibility for delays due to force majeure, strikes, natural disasters, occurrences related to customs procedures, and any other occurrence relating to the provision of delivery services or any other circumstance outside its control.
Customers are encouraged to do everything in their power to facilitate the delivery of the Order, making themselves available for receipt or delegating to a third party.
The courier will make a first attempt at delivery of the Order at the address indicated by the Customer. Where the outcome of the delivery is negative, the courier will inform the Customer of the attempt at delivery and will try to arrange a subsequent delivery of the Order with the Customer.
In the event that the courier is definitively unable to deliver the Order, Customer Service will contact the Customer in order to verify his or her interest in a new despatch.
At the time of delivery, the Customer must verify the exactness of the number of the parcels and the integrity of the external packaging. In the event that the Customer finds anomalies with the delivery, for example in relation to the number of parcels or damage to the external packaging, the Customer must conditionally sign the delivery document and contact the Customer Service. In the event that the Customer fails to do so, the Customer will not be able to bring a claim in relation to the delivery, save for as provided under article 8 below in relation to hidden faults and in respect of any applicable consumer protection law.
The Customer may contact Customer Service by filling in the form provided on the Site (Contact us section) or to the email address: email@example.com.
5. Prices
All the prices published on the Site are inclusive of VAT ("Prices").
Regarding the costs of delivery of the Order ("Delivery
Costs"), the Customer must refer to the information provided in the section "Shipping".
The total amount of the Delivery Costs (where such are owed), inclusive of VAT, will be visible in the summary of the Order during the checkout procedure, and will be stated in the Purchase confirmation sent to the Customer following acceptance of the Order.
Any amendments made to the Prices will have effect from the date of their publication on the Site, with no retroactive effect on Orders that have already been accepted via a Purchase confirmation.
Except in the event of a recognisable error in accordance with article 1431 c.c., the Seller reserves the right to refuse acceptance of an Order for reason of error in the Price published on the Site or indicated in the email sent to confirm the receipt of the Order, that is, before the acceptance of the same Order by the Seller.
6. Vouchers and discount codes
As part of marketing campaigns, the Seller may make
available to Customers vouchers and discount codes for purchasing
products on the Site
Such vouchers and discount codes can never be used for purchases at Boutiques.
Vouchers and discount codes sent out by the Seller are not reimbursable in any case.
7. Defective and non-conforming Products – Guarantee
Subject to the provisions set
out in article 4 above, the Seller assumes responsibility for every defect in the Products.
The Seller guarantees the Customer that Products sold are not defective and that they conform to what has been set out in the Contract, that is, in particular, that the Products:
- • Conform to the description provided on the Site and possess the qualities of the Products that the Seller has presented to the Customer as a sample or model;
- • Are appropriate for the purpose that goods of the same kind are normally used for;
- • Possess the usual qualities and characteristics of goods of the same kind, and that the Customer can reasonably expect, taking into account the nature of the good.
For technological reasons, neither Brunello Cucinelli, nor
the Site
can guarantee that the visualisation of the colours on the
screen will always be accurate.
Marginal differences between the description of the Product on the Site and the actual characteristics of the Product will not be considered cause for non-compliance of the Product for the purposes of the present Contract.
The guarantee of conformity of Products sold on the Site lasts for a period of 2 (two) years from the date of receipt of the Products on the part of the Customer.
In the event that a non-compliant Product is delivered, the Customer will be able to request the reinstatement, at no expense, of the conformity of the Products by way of repairs or replacement. Where that is not possible, the Customer will have the right to a correspondent reduction in the Price of the purchase or to the refunding of the Price and (where incurred) the Delivery Costs. These Terms and Conditions of Sale shall not affect any statutory consumer right.
The Customer will notify the Seller of any failure of conformity of the Products within a period of 2 (two) months from the date on which such failure of conformity is discovered by completing the form available on the site at Returns procedure
After receiving notice from the Customer, the Seller will contact the Customer to arrange the collection of the Products directly with the Customer.
The mere receipt of the Products on the part of the Seller after the initiation of the current procedure does not in any way represent recognition of a failure of conformity of the Products, there being necessary an accurate verification by the Seller.
Any direct judicial action in relation to hidden defects must be undertaken, in every case, within the period of twenty-six months after delivery of the Product.
8. Exchange and return of Products – Right of cancellation
Within 30 (thirty) days from the date of delivery of the Order, the Customer has the right to:
- • Request the exchange of a Product with a unit of the same Product of a different colour or size; or
- • Cancel the Contract, with no penalty and without having to provide any reason (Cancellation).
To this end, in order to ensure compliance with the
above-mentioned term, the date of delivery
of the Products will be taken
as the date indicated on the tracking system for deliveries made
available by the courier on its own website.
Where Customers decide to request the exchange of the Products or to exercise their right of Cancellation as set out above, Customers must previously notify their intention to the Seller by one of the following means of notification:
- • For registered Customers: activating the specific procedure for Returns in the "Orders" section available within the area "Your Page" of the present Site; or
- • For non-registered Customers: activating the specific procedure after tracing the relevant Order in the section "Orders and Returns" on the Site's main menu;
- • For both: contacting Customer Service via the electronic module ("Contacts" section) or sending an email to: email@example.com
For more detailed
information, please consult the section of the Site on the Procedure
of returns.
In the event that the Customer chooses to contact the Customer Service for Returns, the Customer should kindly refer to the unique identifying number for the Order, as set out in the Purchase Confirmation.
The possibility of return Products is available only in relation to Orders that have already been delivered to the Customer based on the tracking system provided by the courier.
The return or exchange form will be pre-filled out by the Seller; the Customer must verify the accuracy of the facts stated therein and, moreover, check that the notice bears the unique identifying number for the Order and, if any, the request to exchange the Product with a similar unit of the Product in a different colour and/or size.
On the return or exchange form, the Customer will be able to indicate the reason for the return and any further notes (for example, the defects encountered, if any).
After receipt of the form, the Seller will confirm receipt of the form to the Customer via email, including the return merchandise authorisation ("R.M.A."). The R.M.A. could nevertheless be rescinded in the event that the Seller ascertains any failure to meet the conditions for the Return or replacement; for example, because more than 30 (thirty) days have elapsed from the date of delivery of the Products to the Customer.
For the return, the Customer will be able exclusively to contact the courier indicated by the Seller in the returns form and/or in the R.M.A. in order to arrange the return of the Products and must attach the delivery tag provided by Seller via email on the relevant parcel.
The Customer must without fail deliver the Products to the courier for the return to the Seller within 14 (fourteen) days of the date of receipt of the R.M.A.
In particular:
- • The returned Products should be sent back with all labels, safety tags, packaging and accessories (cases, hangers, garment covers, etc.) that came with the Order;
- • The Products, labels, safety tags, packaging and accessories should not show any sign of usage, or scratches, or have been changed in any way (worn, washed, stretched, etc.) and should be sent back in the same condition in which they were sent out by the Seller and in their original internal packaging "Brunello Cucinelli".
However, the purchase Price and Delivery Costs will not be reimbursed in relation to:
- • Products that have had their security tags removed or cut off; and/or
- • Products that have been used, are incomplete (in particular where there are missing parts or accessories), ruined, damaged, in a state of deterioration or dirty. Signs of use present on the soles of shoes that have been returned will prejudice the reimbursement or replacement of the Product.
- • Products returned without their internal packaging "[*]".
The Customer
will be considered liable for any diminished
value of the Products resulting from all manipulation other
than that
necessary to establish the nature, characteristics and functioning of
the Products.
Once the prerequisites for exchange of the Product or for Cancellation have been verified, the Seller will communicate to the Customer its acceptance of the return and will proceed to the replacement of the Product or, in the case of Cancellation, to the reimbursement of the purchase Price and of the Delivery Costs ultimately incurred by the Customer (Reimbursement).
Provided that the Customer has correctly followed the present procedure, the delivery costs for the Returns will be borne entirely by the Seller.
The Seller commits to undertake the Reimbursement procedure described above within 14 (fourteen) days from the date of receipt of the returned Products. Reimbursement will be effected via the same Payment method used by the Customer for the Order.
In the event that the Customer has returned the Products without complying with the prerequisites for Return, the Seller will not be able to recognise any right of return. In such case, the Seller will return the Product to the Customer, having previously confirmed his or her availability in this regard, reserving the right to charge any subsequent delivery costs to the same.
Customers should dispatch the Products for return from the same country where the Products were first delivered.
9. Applicable law and disputes
These Terms and Conditions of Sale and the Contracts formed under the same rules are governed by
Italian law.
All disputes relating to the present Terms and Conditions of Sale and the relevant Contracts made under the same rules will be recognised by the competent Court in the place of domicile or residence of the Customer, based on the applicable law, or, upon option of the Customer, the Court of Milan. The possibility of promoting the extra-judicial resolution of disputes is guaranteed, as set out by articles 66 and 141 of the Consumer Code.
10. Communications and complaints
For every communication, notification or complaint relating to an Order and to the application of these Terms and Conditions of Sale, the Customer will be able to contact the Customer Service using the relevant form on the Site at the address Customer Care or via email to: firstname.lastname@example.com.
11. Miscellaneous
In the present Contract, the singular form includes the plural and vice versa, depending on the
No waiver of the right to access remedies for the breach of the present Contract on the part of the Seller represents a waiver in relation to previous or subsequent breaches of any other provision contained in the Contract.
In the event that a provision of the present Contract is found to be illegal, null or void for any reason, such provision will be considered severable from the other provisions of the present Contract and will not affect in any way the validity and effectiveness of the remaining provisions of the Contract.
These Terms and Conditions of Sale are subject to copyright; any unauthorised reproduction, even partial, is strictly forbidden.
- 1. Site activity
- 2. Site content and intellectual property
- 3. Third-party content
- 4. Disclaimer
- 5. Use of the Site
- 6. Personal Accounts
- 7. Limitation of liability
Access to and navigation on this website
("Site") implies acceptance of the provisions
set out in these terms of use of the Site ( "Terms of Use
of the Site" or, in abbreviated form, "Terms of
Use") by the user ("User"). Users who
do not accept the content of the Terms of Use should stop access to and navigation of the Site.
The Terms of Use are part of the legal terms of this Site.
Brunello Cucinelli reserves the right to modify, in whole or in part, the Terms of Use. Users who do not accept such modifications should consider whether or not to continue navigating; in fact, use of the Site following the publication of the aforementioned modifications represents acceptance of the same on the User's part.
The Site Owner is Brunello Cucinelli S.p.A. ("Brunello Cucinelli" or, alternatively, the "Owner").
1. Site Activity
The Site displays, publishes, promotes,
sells and distributes the Owner's products ("Products")
under the registered brands of Brunello Cucinelli and other trademarks of the Owner (together, the "Owner's
Trademarks"), whether registered or unregistered.
Within the Site there are multiple features to inform Users of the Products and services available on the Site, and to facilitate the completion of Orders, such as, for example, the ability of Users to:
- • Register on the Site, thereby activating a personal account in order to access areas of reserved content;
- • Subscribe to the mailing list in order to receive newsletters relating to the Site's Products and campaigns;
- • Participate in promotional campaigns.
Users are invited
to provide true and accurate personal
information and to update their personal information ("Personal
Information") as provided at registration where such is out of date, and
to read the Privacy Policy and the
in relation to the processing of Personal Information and the rights of
set forth by the applicable privacy protection law.
2. Site content and intellectual property
The information, photographic material, Products
and in general the entire contents of the Site or any part of such contents ("Site
is the property of Brunello Cucinelli, its licensors or content
All of the Site Content is protected by intellectual property
rights, including, for example, laws regarding
copyright, patents,
brands or other laws and international treaties regarding intellectual
The copying, downloading, distribution, modification, creation of derivative works or extracts, publication or other use or exploitation of the Site Content without the prior written consent of the Owner or, depending on the circumstances, of another rights holder, when such activity has not been expressly consented by the Site, is forbidden. The reproduction of Site Content for the purpose of sale, distribution for commercial purposes, unauthorised insertion or posting on other sites, or for a professional purpose, is also forbidden.
All the Owner's Trademarks, both registered and unregistered, commercial names, logos and other distinctive signs of the Products and services used, visualised and howsoever contained on the Site are the exclusive property of the Owner, of subjects connected to the Owner or of the respective licensors or content providers.
These Terms of Use do not confer either on the Users or on the customers that buy Products or services on the Site ("Customers"), or to third parties, any right to use the Owner's Trademarks; Users, Customers and third persons are reminded moreover that the use of such Trademarks for business, commercial or promotional purposes is strictly forbidden without the prior written consent of the Owner.
3. Third Party Content
The Site may include, use or visualise content created by
third parties, information derived
from public sources and/or links to
external sites or websites managed by third parties (collectively,
"Third Party Content").
The Owner exercises
no control or monitoring over Third Party Content
and does not assume any liability regarding the accuracy,
safety or
reliability of Third Party Content and cannot guarantee, and does not
guarantee, that
such Third Party Content is free of viruses or other
features capable of damaging data and/or goods
belonging to Users.
Brunello Cucinelli disclaims any liability to Users in
relation to any loss
and damages which might be incurred and which are
connected to the use of any Third Party Content.
In certain cases, the Site may include links to third party sites, which are therefore not the property or under the management or control of Brunello Cucinelli ("Third Party Sites"). The content of such sites lies outside the control appertaining to Brunello Cucinelli, who therefore disclaims any liability regarding the trueness, completeness and legitimacy of Third Party Sites. Brunello Cucinelli disclaims all liability for the contents of pages of Third Party Sites and for all the consequences following from access and navigation by Users of such Third Party Sites.
4. Disclaimer
The Owner cannot in any way guarantee that the Site, including the relevant Site Content, services and features, will be free from interruptions, that every defect encountered on the Site will be rectified or that the use of the Site will entail a specific result. The Site and Site Content are provided in their current state and are available as is. In addition to the above, the Owner does not recognise any guarantee, express or implied, including any guarantee of accuracy, completeness, non-violation of third party rights, marketability or suitability to a particular purpose.
5. Use of the Site
Users can use the Site and the Site Content exclusively
for personal purposes, outside of any commercial purpose, and in a way
that conforms with the
Terms of Use, as well as all the applicable laws.
The use of the Site cannot in any way entail the establishment of any professional relationship with the Users, even where the latter are involved in the publication of reviews, contributions, posts of any kind, nor by way of agency relationship or editorial collaboration.
The Owner reserves the right to interrupt or suspend access or use of the Site for one or more Users, even without prior notice, where it considers that the Terms of Use of the Site have been breached or where it is necessary for reasons of security.
6. Personal Accounts
In the event of
the creation of a personal account on the Site ("Personal
the User commits to provide Personal Information which is true and
at the time of registration and to update it regularly.
Registered Users are invited to store their Personal Account access credentials in an appropriate manner and not to divulge them. Registered Users must communicate promptly to the Site any unauthorised use of the Personal Account access credentials.
Registered Users are responsible for all activity carried out via their Personal Account and may be held liable for any damages of any kind resulting from the improper use of their Personal Account access credentials or for any abuse of the services provided by the Personal Account.
7. Limitation of liability
The information regarding the Products
on the Site is intended and published merely for descriptive or promotional purposes.
The information regarding the Products on the Site is intended and published merely for descriptive or promotional purposes.
The look and colours on the Site depend on the settings of the User's device and it is impossible to guarantee that the User's device will correctly display the colours and images published on the Site.
The Site can modify or remove, temporarily or permanently, certain Products and/or services, or modify the retail prices of such Products or services, without providing any prior notice to Users regarding such modifications.
To the extent allowed by the applicable law, Brunello Cucinelli will not in any case be liable to Users, Customers or to third parties for any damage or loss deriving from the use of the Site and/or the Site Content, including information contained on the Site (and, in particular, information relating to the Products ).
With reference to the process for purchasing Products, Users are invited to read the: Terms and Conditions of Sale:
Brunello Cucinelli disclaims any liability for any damage, direct or indirect, regardless of the cause, origin, nature of the consequences of such damage, including, for example, the costs incurred or any other loss of intangible goods deriving from the use of the Site or from the inability to use it or from reliance on the information, directly or indirectly, available on the Site.
The User also accepts to hold harmless and indemnify Brunello Cucinelli or other companies belonging to the Brunello Cucinelli Group in relation to any legal action, demand, claim on the part of third parties including damages and costs, including legal costs, originating from or connected to the irregular and/or illegal use of the Site, as defined above, on the part of the Users or other persons subject to their control or direction.
These Terms of Use are subject to copyright; any reproduction, even in part, is therefore forbidden.
Product exchanges and Returns
Customers can
exchange a Product for an
item of different colour and size, when it is available in stock or cancel
the Order within 30 (thirty)
days from the date of delivery of the Product without the need of providing
In case of cancellation of an Order, the Seller will proceed to refund the Customer for the full Purchase price in a prompt manner after receiving the returned Products from the Customer. Refunds will be carried out via the same Payment method initially used by the Customer for the Order.
To apply for a Product exchange or to cancel an Order, Customers must first ask the Seller to release a Returns Merchandise Authorization (" R.M.A") before returning any Product.
Customers can apply for the release of the R.M.A. in the following ways:
- • for registered Customers: by activating the specific procedure for Returns in the "Order" section available inside the "Your Page" area of this Site; or
- • for unregistered Customers: by activating the specific procedure after searching the relevant Order in the "Orders and Returns" section on the Site main menu;
- • for both: by contacting the Customer Service via the electronic form ( Contact us section) or by sending an e-mail to: email@example.com
When contacting the Customer service for returns, Customers are kindly requested
to specify
the unique identifying
number of the Order.
Every Product must be returned bearing all security tags and labels. It should also include all the original packaging and accessories (case, hangers, garment covers, etc.) received with the Order; it must not show any signs of use, scratches or be altered in any way (worn, washed, ironed, etc.) and the Product must be returned in the same condition it was shipped in and in its original packaging. All shoes should be tried on a carpeted surface; in case of any sole degradation, Brunello Cucinelli reserves the right to refuse the return of the shoes.
The Seller offers Customers a complimentary return service free of any shipping charges (" Complimentary return service"). In order to enjoy this service, Customers are required to complete the electronic Return request with the pickup address, pickup date, contact details and attach a specific return shipping label supplied by the Seller for the Product return. If the Customer decides not to select a pickup date at the moment of submitting the electronic Return request, they must contact directly DHL ( www.dhl.com) to confirm the pickup date.
Customers must always return the Products within 14 (fourteen) days after receiving the R.M.A.
Any other method of returning the Products outside of the Complimentary return service will be at the Customer's expense. By using any other option outside of the Complimentary return service to return the Products, Customers acknowledge and agree to be liable for any loss or damage to the Products during the return process.
Customers are kindly asked to dispatch the Products for return from the same country where the Products were first delivered. If this is not possible, they should first contact the Seller by email at email@example.com. to verify the most suitable alternative solution to return the Products.
The Seller may refuse to accept any further Orders from a Customer after multiple returns on previous purchases by the same Customer.


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Vastex Screen Printing Equipment
April 21, 2009
Vastex Screen Printing Equipment designed its new screen cart to protect press-ready screens from damage and contaminants. The cart is made of steel and feature angled shelves that only allow frame edges to touch. It holds up to 24 screens in sizes of 20 x 24 or 23 x 31 in. (508 x 610 or 584 x 787 mm). It has locking casters. An optional cart cover is available. Vastex, 1032 N. Irving St., Allentown, PA 18109, 610-434-6004, fax: 610-434-6607, Web: www.vastex.com.
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uplcom — USB support for Prolific PL-2303/2303X/2303HX serial adapters driver
To compile this driver into the kernel, place the following lines in your kernel configuration file: device uplcom device ucom Alternatively, to load the driver as a module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5): uplcom_load="YES"
The uplcom driver provides support for various serial adapters based on the Prolific PL-2303, PL-2303X and PL-2303HX USB-to-RS232 Bridge chips. The device is accessed through the ucom(4) driver which makes it behave like a tty(4).
The uplcom driver supports the following adapters: · ATEN UC-232A · BAFO BF-800 · BAFO BF-810 · Belkin F5U257 · ELECOM UC-SGT · HAL Corporation Crossam2+USB IR commander · Hama USB RS-232 Serial Adapter · Hamlet exagerate XURS232 · IOGEAR UC-232A · I/O DATA USB-RSAQ · I/O DATA USB-RSAQ2 · I/O DATA USB-RSAQ3 · Mobile Action MA-620 Infrared Adapter · PLANEX USB-RS232 URS-03 · RATOC REX-USB60 · Radio Shack USB Serial Cable · Sandberg USB to Serial Link (model number 133-08) · SOURCENEXT KeikaiDenwa 8 (with and without charger) · Sony Ericsson USB Cable (Susteen USB Data Cable) · Willcom W-SIM DD PHS terminal.(WS002IN)
tty(4), ucom(4), usb(4)
The uplcom driver appeared in NetBSD 1.6. This manual page was adopted from NetBSD by Tom Rhodes <firstname.lastname@example.com> in April 2002.


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Zach Daniell is wiped out.
It's the night before Thanksgiving and the 18-year-old New Yorker has just flat-out sprinted through lower Manhattan with his 16-year-old girlfriend Kiki Fausel, his sister, and some friends. Bounding and pounding, they make the frenzied one-mile dash from Washington Square Park to a concert at the Blender Theatre at Gramercy in about 15 minutes.
Daniell and his crew have busted out because they're convinced that headliner The Medic Droid has already launched into its set. The Phoenix electro power-pop duo is in town tonight with L.A.'s hip-hop/nerdcore sensation Hyper Crush and it promises to be a big show, despite rumors of an al-Qaeda plot to bomb the NYC subway system.
Daniell and Fausel are particularly fond of The Medic Droid — in no small part because they first hooked up at the band's gig at The Knitting Factory in May — and were worried they'd miss some of their favorite tracks, like "The Killer Anna" and "FScene8."
Luck's on their side tonight, as they've arrived at the Blender Theatre to discover The Medic Droid isn't going on for another 45 minutes.
Shit. At least they got some exercise.
Chris Donathon, 23-year-old vocalist for The Medic Droid, has heard stories from fans like Daniell and Fausel about how the band's music has affected their lives.
"Kids have told us, 'I met my girlfriend 'cause of this song,' or, 'Your song saved my life,'" Donathon says. "[Our music] makes people feel good and they say, 'Every time I hear it, it just makes me happy and I just wanna start dancing and I just don't care.' They've just got this connection to it."
And he's heard about said connections in cities from Utah to the U.K., as Donathon and guitarist/keyboard player Hector Bagnod have been on a non-stop touring blitz across North America and Great Britain over the past two years, opening for such marquee-level acts as Kill Hannah, Escape the Fate, A Cursive Memory, and The Blackout.
And they're bringing with them a sexy and infectious dance groove that's driving a lot of kids wild.
As other Valley electro-oriented pop bands, like Peachcake and Get Down! To Brass Tacks, have taken their synthesizers into indie and post-punk territories, the boys of The Medic Droid have a different kind of tune. It's a catchy fusion of '80s-style synth and pop with elements of New Wave and hard rock, capped off with a foul-mouthed and occasionally androgynous frontman singing catty lyrics through a vocoder.
Their gigs are rowdy dance parties that have attracted screaming teens and 20-somethings of both sexes, particularly scene kids, emo brats, and MySpace users. And the song they wanna hear is "Fer Sure," a sassy electronica jam that became a MySpace phenomenon and launched The Medic Droid to international renown. They know all the words by heart and sing along en masse, particularly the chorus.
"Pulled up at a stoplight/Did drugs on the dashboard/Look at the mess we made tonight," Donathon sings. "Kick off your stilettos/Kick off your stilettos/And fuck me in the backseat/Fuck me in the backseat."
During gigs, the singer becomes Chris "Fucking" Donathon, a ribald, over-the-top persona who says or does anything — stage-diving, dishing playful insults, even lifting his shirt to show his nipples.
Outside their hometown, the off-the-chain affairs tend toward raucousness. As for The Medic Droid's gigs here in the Valley? Not so much. It may owe to the fact that The Medic Droid has played fewer than a dozen shows in Phoenix since forming less than two years ago.
Before there was the band, there was just the song. In late 2006, Donathon enlisted Bagnod's help to create "Fer Sure" and posted it on MySpace. Within months, it had been heard by millions. After a pair of follow-up songs got an equal reaction, the pair took off on a wild ride of success.
But it might be a case of too much too soon. Though they've enjoyed the past two years of relative fame and fortune, both Donathon and Bagnod admit they're feeling burnout from touring for nearly a year straight.
"Since we started playing shows on the road for almost a year, we haven't had time to fall back and catch ourselves," Bagnod says. "It feels like everything took off so fast, and we wanna have everything catch up to us again and not feel so pressured all the time. It's more than just stress. It's like a very overwhelming feeling. We aren't happy."
Chris Donathon and Hector Bagnod are like brothers from another mother. BFFs for life.
They come from vastly different upbringings, but it feels like they could've been separated at birth.
Donathon was born in Florida but bounced around the country after his mother divorced his drug-addict father (who was convicted of murder after a drug deal gone bad). He lived in Tennessee and Sacramento with his mom and older brother before finally moving to Arizona. He longed to be a vocalist since his days as a loner latchkey kid singing along to Rocket Summer and The Starting Line in a homemade recording studio he built in his closet.
With all he's been through, Donathon has a remarkably positive attitude.
"It's a matter of it helping me realize certain things, what's important," he says.
Meanwhile, Bagnod was raised in both Bagdad, Arizona, and Prescott in a "traditional Mexican family." He got guitar lessons from his father (who played Spanish and flamenco style), and an older cousin from Mexico taught him how to shred on Metallica and Nirvana.
The story of how they came together is very much "meet cute."
In 2003, Donathon was working at a Fry's in Tempe as a stock clerk. He and Bagnod were looking to join a band, but neither could find one that matched their particular musical interests of post-hardcore and pop-punk.
One evening, Bagnod came into the store and saw Donathon wearing a New Found Glory T-shirt while coming off shift.
"He ran in because he forgot to clock out, and we caught each other," Bagnod says. "And I was like, 'Hey, you play anything?'"
Donathon remembers having to fib a little.
"Yeah, I lied and was, like, 'I play guitar,' just because I wanted to squeeze into a band somehow," he says. "And we got together and started jamming."
Their bro-mance flourished as the pair discovered a mutual love for oldies, '50s rock 'n' roll, and '80s pop like Michael Jackson, Queen, and Prince.
Donathon moved to Sacramento shortly thereafter and got married, returning to the Valley in 2005 after a bitter divorce. He approached Bagnod about collaborating on some "electronic and energetic" dance music that was rowdy and pop-oriented. With the assistance of members of pop-punk band Good With Grenades (of which Bagnod was a member at the time), they recorded what would become "Fer Sure."
The song was a fusion of the pair's assorted influences, from '80s dance pop to the post-hardcore sound and rowdiness of bygone Texas band At the Drive-In.
Bagnod worked the synth and guitars, with Donathon's voice filtered through an auto-tune vocoder as he sang feisty lyrics and made catty taunts at his scene-kid friends, girly-pants-wearing emo hipsters, MySpace users, and Internet slang.
He even smacked up drag queen/electro-pop vocalist Jeffree Star with a taunt so obscene it'd make Howard Stern blush.
"This is Chris Fucking Donathon, and don't get mad, Jeffree Star, 'cause I made you snort a lot of my cum while I fucked you in the ass," he vamps in the spoken intro to the song.
The irony that both Donathon and Bagnod have the same style as those being made fun of in the song is not lost on them.
"We're talking about scene kids that wear tight pants, straighten their hair, put on makeup, like piercings, whatever," Bagnod says. "We can make fun of it, but I also wear tight pants and straighten my hair. So it's funny."
The song was merely a fun side project for the pair. Donathon explains he had something of a "don't give a shit" attitude about it, and the song reflected that.
"I've never really considered myself a songwriter. I was just gonna join other bands and I'll just have this for, like, something on the side — just to mess around and be creative and have fun," Donathon says. "It was about making simple songs, and [not worrying] about production or anything."
"Fer Sure" was posted on a MySpace page Donathon reserved for The Medic Droid (a reference to The Empire Strikes Back, owing to his geekdom), and the pair told a few friends about it. They figured only their immediate social circles would be hearing the song.
Within a week, Donathon's then-girlfriend was swamped with positive MySpace messages about the song. By the end of the month, it was getting more than 50,000 listens per day at one point.
"I was really weirded out by it. She was freaking out about all the plays, and I was like, is that good? It may sound stupid, but I really didn't check out other bands' pages to see what was good about plays."
Bagnod continued to collaborate on songs, posting new ones every few months, such as "Keeping Up with the Joneses" and "FScene8." Each one hit big, particularly with teens. Although The Medic Droid's fan base includes all ages, the majority skew young, between 14 and 20.
Donathon says he thinks kids latch onto their songs because of the popularity of MySpace among teenagers, as well as the band's attitude and lyrical content.
"That's what I was making fun of, mocking the whole MySpace lingo," Donathon says. "It was about parties, drugs, sex, Internet, MySpace, all what teenagers are into."
Daniel Werner, an A&R rep for Epic Records (the band's distributor) says he's impressed at how they've reached scene kids, emo types, and their ilk.
"The Medic Droid, to me, I feel like they are speaking for a whole huge group of kids that have had very little representation in pop culture for the last several years," Werner says. "People who are genuinely different and see the world differently, kids who are trying to be different and creative, have lost a mouthpiece. It's hard to find people who speak for you. The Medic Droid does that."
After their songs started getting notice online, Bagnod says, an "insane amount" of managers and labels made contact.
"We didn't know anything about the business," Bagnod says. "We just wanted to write music. That's all we knew. We didn't know booking agents; we didn't know labels. We didn't have any clue about that stuff."
A friend in the recording industry helped land the band a gig opening for Enter Shikari at NYC's Bowery Ballroom in September 2007. Donathon first tried out his alter ego during that debut gig. Bagnod and Donathon decided to become an actual band and scheduled several gigs in New York and Los Angeles, where they'd also meet with agents and labels.
Tim Ervin, a 19-year-old from Whippany, New Jersey, was in the audience at the Bowery for the live debut of The Medic Droid.
"There were maybe 20 fans there who knew who The Medic Droid were. It was a pretty packed show, but most people were there for Enter Shikari," Ervin says. "But by the end of the night, they were really into it. It was something new that they were excited about."
The Medic Droid feel they're better known outside the Valley.
"It is funny. We could be in another state and we've gotten recognized at the mall — like, people will recognize us. Here, I could walk around the mall all day and nobody's gonna come up and say, 'What's up?'" he says. "We got recognized on the beach at 1 in the morning on a pier in L.A. We were just walking with some friends and I had my hoodie up, and these kids stopped, ran back, and asked if we're The Medic Droid. We weren't even on tour there."
The Valley didn't get a chance to experience The Medic Droid until a month after their Bowery gig when they opened for nerdcore rapper MC Chris at the Brickhouse. And though they've rocked clubs repeatedly on both coasts, they've played fewer than a dozen shows in their hometown.
"Dunno," Donathon says. "Local shows are usually pretty like dead, pretty standstill. It's definitely nowhere near what it is overseas or Denver, or Dallas, Portland, Florida, or New York. It just goes off. It's insane."
How insane? Ben Collins, who runs The Medic Droid's record label, Modern Art Records, tells some tales: rabid fans breaking down a security barricade in Detroit, tossing blow-up sex dolls around the crowd in different cities, or audience members with bloody legs from getting pressed against the stage in DeKalb, Illinois. For some shows, the dance floor is almost a mosh pit. Fans will also rush the stage and climb aboard and dance away.
After gigs, Collins will play a game counting the various barrettes, wallet chains, or bracelets that have been ripped off by the grind machine that is The Medic Droid's crowd.
So why ain't this happening in the PHX?
Collins says the crowd sizes are comparable between Phoenix and other cities; it's just that local crowds are far more subdued. (It's not just an Arizona thing, either, because Tucson shows are pretty rowdy).
"There's the high-pitch feel to Phoenix shows and stuff, but not the raw, sexed-up vibe of other cities," Collins says. "The screams are louder, the reaction is bigger."
That includes seeing some ambisextrous action, be it boy-on-boy, girl-on-boy, or girl-on-girl. It's all fed by The Medic Droid's sexy electronic hooks and crotch-pounding bass.
And it includes Donathon's occasionally having kissed a boy or two in the past. Collins says of his friend, "Chris is straight, but he's also . . . adventurous."
When the vocalist has Chris Fucking Donathon switched on, he'll sometimes skirt androgyny (regularly glamming up his model-quality looks in guyliner and foundation) but always dishes the rambunctious attitude on the microphone. Not to mention flinging himself around stages, making offensive jokes about religion, sticking his hands down his pants, and using them for rude gestures.
He's like the long-lost son of Iggy Pop or Johnny Rotten, Collins says.
"No matter how dance-y they get, Chris is still a punker at heart," he adds. "What he's doing is still punk, just in a different way."
Epic's Werner agrees.
"To me, punk has always more reflected an ethos and an attitude, more than a specific sound," he says. "The kind of fearless don't-give-a-fuck attitude [Bagnod and Donathon] have in their approach to performance is more punk rock than a lot of artists who maybe call themselves punk or pop-punk."
Occasionally, the dude gets into some trouble. To wit: In Salt Lake City, while touring with Kill Hannah over the summer, management for the post-punk band threatened to kick Donathon off the tour for engaging in a water-gun fight onstage and drenching electrical equipment, Collins says.
"I was getting a lot of calls in the morning for that one," Collins says.
It's all just fun, explains Bagnod, which is why they keep gigs short and sweet.
"A good performance is coming out, pinning it in. Have a set short and good, and have people go, 'Wow, that's fun.' It's better having fans leave the show thinking, 'That was so fun.' Almost leave them still pumped, not leave them all drained — like after a crazy Mars Volta show, with 10-minute songs."
On Halloween evening, the six employees of Modern Art Records are busy moving into their new headquarters in Phoenix's downtown arts district.
Ben Collins, the label's co-founder, maneuvers around various shipping cartons and cardboard boxes scattered around the vintage 1912-era Roosevelt residence while heading to his corner office. (The new digs are much swankier than the dank Tempe industrial park where Modern Art was formerly housed, and are afforded by a major investment in the label by Epic Records).
The 27-year-old, who plays guitar in local hip-hop/rock combo Chronic Future, is eager to talk about The Medic Droid's rollercoaster ride to fame. (He's well-versed in such a subject, as Chronic Future burst on the Valley music scene as teenagers in 1996 with their snotty anthem "Scottsdale Brat" before getting signed to big-time deals with major labels shortly thereafter.)
"Hector and Chris are a phenomenon in a lot of ways," Collins says. "There are a lot of record labels out there spending hundreds of thousands of dollars just to try to get a band to the point that The Medic Droid got on their own natural energy and some well-placed maneuvers."
The band's near-overnight success, he says, was due to their being able to connect with fans through the first three songs and then go from there.
"They wrote three songs, and in many ways their spark was created just on that. So, it's a very rare story, I think, with a band to see something rise that quickly," Collins says. "I think it's a testament to things like MySpace and the digital world. You put a song up and it's really good, then it's just a matter of time before people catch on to it if they like it."
Around the time of their debut show in NYC, The Medic Droid was inundated with offers from major labels. Donathon says they were discouraged by the attitudes and insincerity of various major-label A&R reps and were reluctant to sign a deal.
"It just started getting to the point where we didn't care when someone wanted to talk to us," says Bagnod.
An online chat with a member of local thrash-rock group The Cover Up convinced Bagnod he should see what Collins had to offer.
"He was really cool, and we all just started talking music," he says. "We met up a lot and really started liking their idea of things and the mentality that they had to work with artists. They talk with you and not at you."
Ben Collins founded Modern Art last year with his wife, Anne-Marie Smart, and members of Chronic Future after they experienced frustration with the music industry. Chronic Future went through much drama with Interscope Records over contract issues and unpaid money in relation to the band's 2004 album Lines in My Face. Band members wound up getting day jobs to survive, and after putting out a self-funded EP, Chronic Future decided to start its own label.
Modern Art differs from other indies in that it is virtually autonomous. Recording titan Epic provides distribution, promotion, and plenty of financial backing, to the tune of six figures annually, but Collins says it's a relatively hands-off situation in which they call the shots and pick which artists they'd like to sign.
The focus is on Phoenix musicians and bands with breakthrough capability, like the other three bands currently signed to Modern Art, each snagging the spotlight in its own way. Miniature Tigers' infectiously sing-song indie pop has been blowing up big-time on college radio nationwide; electro-pop group Back Ted N-Ted generated major buzz at last year's South by Southwest festival in Austin, and its founder Ryan Breen (who also serves as Modern Art's in-house producer) remixed songs for Imogen Heap. And hardcore band The Cover Up recently starred in a commercial for Australia's Commonwealth Bank.
But are there any advertisement deals in the works for the Medic Droid?
"Chris has asked me, 'Ben, can I get a MAC Cosmetics endorsement?'" he jokes.
Inside the Green Room at the Blender Theatre on Thanksgiving eve, the members of the Modern Art Records posse are doing the kicking-back thing. While Chronic Future passes around some Maker's Mark and tunes up before they take the stage to open for The Medic Droid, Bagnod's busy brushing his teeth and applying cologne. He's also getting some confidence-builders and advice on hooking up after the show.
"You're so hot, Hekti," says Chellise Michael, girlfriend of Chronic Future vocalist Mike Busse. "You see how ready you are for tonight? You are so prepared to kiss a girl with a clean mouth."
"You're the most gorgeous boy," adds Anne Marie Smart, wife of Ben Collins.
"You guys are just saying that," Bagnod says sheepishly.
Some of The Medic Droid faithful might disagree, Hekti.
Although Donathon tends to get more of the adoration, there are plenty in the band's largely teenage fanbase who are enamored with Bagnod. Take "BeautifulMiseryandMe," for instance. The high-school-age YouTube user stated "i love hector bagnod" on her personal page on the video-sharing Web site.
It's not the only thing you'd find on YouTube relating to the band, as close to 3,000 videos devoted to The Medic Droid are posted on the site. There's shaky and pixilated bootleg concert footage, clips of fans filming themselves with webcams singing along to songs, and even D.I.Y. music videos, like an almost five-minute clip of stick figure ninjas re-enacting the lyrics of "Fer Sure" word for word.
When they aren't online, The Medic Droid's fans are demonstrating their devotion at shows. Besides antics like climbing on each other's shoulders and singing along en masse, they occasionally offer "gifts" to Donathon and Bagnod. The singer says the handmade bracelets and handwritten letters he's been given at the stage door have been nice. He's not as appreciative of the thongs and panties occasionally tossed onstage.
The Tom Jones-like action has also led to a few humorous moments, like when Sean-P, the guitarist for The White Tie Affair, placed a proffered thong on Donathon's head at a gig opening for the Chicago power-pop group quintet during the summer.
"He was onstage dancing with us, walked over, and put them on my head while I was singing," Donathon says. "I was like, 'Dude, like really, get away.'"
Thankfully, he adds, the unmentionables hadn't been worn.
With all the panties being served up and the band's getting on marquee-level tours, it's no surprise some fans think the band mates are major playas. While relaxing at the Bikini Lounge in downtown Phoenix the night before leaving for their current tour, Bagnod and Donathon discuss how they're perplexed by such misconceptions.
"People will ask us, 'What's it like living the rock star life?'" Bagnod says. "I'm like, 'What are you talking about? I live at home with my mom.'"
Despite the band's whirlwind of success, neither feels like a rock star and each is humble about everything that's happened. Which is why, Donathon says, it feels strange when girls start crying while talking to them.
"When girls come up to take a picture, they'll be shaking and stuff and they get teary-eyed," he says. "I always feel nervous when they do that 'cause I remember as a kid getting emotional when I met my favorite bands."
And fans usually get emotional when describing how much The Medic Droid's songs mean to them. So it comes as no surprise that said connection is one reason many were disappointed with What's Your Medium, which was produced by Breen. Most of the eight-track EP consists of The Medic Droid re-recording and updating "Fer Sure" and their other MySpace hits, and that's drawn criticism from their hardcore fans. Some hated the lack of new material, others though it was too slick and polished, lacking the "raw" feel of the original songs.
Donathon chalks up the disappointment to those fans' attachment to the original versions of the songs and hating the changes that were made (such as dropping the über-cheeky dialogue from "Fer Sure"). He also admits to rushing into recording the album in order to get it out as quickly as possible, since it'd been eight months since they'd released anything.
"We got really stressed out during the recording because it felt like we put ourselves on the spot to get something out," Donathon says. "I think we let the feeling of being worried about what people were gonna think and it took over. It wasn't fun to record, so it probably wasn't fun to listen to."
However, he admits, "the albums are still selling, so apparently, if there are some kids [that are unhappy], there's still plenty more that aren't."
Although they constantly laud Breen for his producing talents, Donathon and Bagnod plan on doing the next recording themselves. They're also planning on taking time and having fun with it, adopting the same "don't give a shit" attitude of "Fer Sure."
But they aren't in a hurry to start working on new material just yet. Right now, Bagnod says, getting off their two-year rollercoaster for some serious vacay is in order, before they burn out.
Or break up? Collins has repeatedly told New Times there's "little chance" The Medic Droid will be calling it quits after wrapping up their last dates of the tour, including this weekend's show at the Clubhouse Music Venue.
"It's been crazy being put on fast-forward without being able to catch up. We both never thought it would go like this ever. We never thought we'd play on the other side of the world," Bagnod says. "Some bands have been together for years and years and they learn about how to deal with all this. What most bands would do in five years, we've had to do in one or two."
"We wanna get back into why we started this," he adds. "We didn't start this to get Lamborghinis or be on MTV. We started this because we like to write music and have fun. Right now, after touring for a year straight, we aren't happy."
Donathon is a bit more dramatic, however.
"Right now, I'm in such a fucked-up place. If we continue doing what we're doing now, if we keep going at the same pace, I'll explode," Donathon says.
Chris Donathon is pissed and looks like he's about to start swinging.
With his hands balled into fists and screaming obscenities, he's all up in the grill of the Blender Theatre's stage manager, who just pulled the plug on The Medic Droid halfway through its Thanksgiving eve set.
Donathon has been sick for most of the tour. Thanks to a bout with the flu, the cold weather, and constant smoking, he's lost his voice the past three nights straight. The band easily could've canceled. But because NYC is a hotspot for The Medic Droid's fan base, Donathon put pressure on himself to perform. (He also had regained most of his voice.)
To compensate, fans were invited onstage to dance and fill in on the mic for few songs while the singer rested, but that didn't last for long. After four blond girls sing an extremely off-key rendition of Madonna's "Into the Groove" (the band's only cover), security went going nuts over insurance liabilities.
Donathon begs for one more song ("Fer Sure") to send the crowd home somewhat happy, but he's denied. As a large African-American bouncer herds the audience out, fans begin repeating the song's chorus of "Fuck me in the backseat!" and "Don-a-than."
Ben Collins chalks up Donathon's near-fight and aggro behavior to his frustration at not being able to sing ("It's like taking the strings from a guitarist") and, more importantly, being burnt out from stress and worn out from touring constantly over the past year.
"Part of the allure of this band is what happened tonight, that with Chris Fucking Donathon, anything happens with this kid and they feel that and know it. And tonight anything did happen," Collins says. "As their managers and as their friends, it's up to us to look out for Hector and Chris and make sure things don't do too far. It's at the point right now where they need to go wrap up this tour, go home, and take a long break."
Things are calmed down by the time members of Chronic Future and The Medic Droid are loading their gear into vans and trailers parked outside the stage door. Standing across the street from the hotel where the late Dee Dee Ramone crashed, the now-mellow Donathon's got a 40 of Budweiser and is holding court with a dozen fans.
Zach Daniell and Kiki Fausel share their story with the drunken singer. He's back into Chris Fucking Donathon mode and replies with good-natured sass.
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"You guys are both fucking gay. Totally cheesy," he says. "Love it. Love it."
Donathon's also assuring his fans that The Medic Droid's next show in Gotham won't end as badly.
"We'll be back again, and next time, seriously, next time we're gonna have the [vocoders] going. I'm gonna be singing, I'll even be spinning the mic around," he says. "It'll be crazy."
"I'll even fuck the sky," he adds, falling to the sidewalk and humping the air.


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Hi ya, welcome to my abode dear friend, I have a lovely cuppa & treat ready for our time together. Our topic for today's reflection is Other's emotions that can become extremely contagious…
It has been raining & cold here for days so the best spot for our reflection is indoors, we have moved our living room furniture around so as to allow more light through our full length windows, as a 3 seater sofa was blocking a great deal of natural light from entering.
I have our tray of goodies resting on the coffee table… Now we are seated in our brighter living room let's begin reflecting upon these emotional contagions.
I'll set the scene for you to give you an example of what I mean…
You are spending the weekend with a friend, you have jointly rented a two bedroom ground floor beachside holiday apartment…you have had a delightful time chatting, eating, catching up & enjoying time together. You are now off to your respective beds for much needed sleep as it has been a long road trip to meet up midway between states.
You're feeling peaceful as you go through your bedtime routine looking forward to the nice soft bed that is in this holiday apartment as you discovered last time. You have brought a novel that you have been longing to read. You just settle into reading in the big comfy bed. All seems right with the world in that moment.
Then the serenity is broken with a loud noise, followed by your friend knocking on the door…fear & anxiety is on her face as you open it…she thinks there's a man outside banging on her Window!
Having heard the loud noise yourself, you know something is going on…though her fear & anxiety is permeating the atmosphere…You don't want it to affect you but you send a little prayer up as you walk gingerly to her room to investigate with her hot on your heels.
You turn her bedroom light off so you can get a good line of sight once you peek through the closed blinds. But before you do another loud bang pierces the silence of the room, startling you both!
This time your heart starts to beat a little faster
Your friend by this time is shaking with fear & anxiety clearly heard in her whispers…But you're determined to get to the bottom of this…
You peek through the blinds…the inky blackness of the wintery night makes it difficult for your eyes to adjust, then another loud bang, you're sure your friend is ready to pass out…
As your eyes adjust you see the shadowy shape of the perpetrator close to the Window, he's huge…your heart is beating faster now… he pulls back to bang on the Window again…allowing the light from the distant street lamp to shine upon him… revealing his identity…
It's a young willow tree swaying in the wind, hitting the window with each blasting gust! You both giggle with relief! And your friend's laughter is overlaid with nervous embarrassment.
Fear & anxiety causes one to envisage all types of scenarios that always jump to the worse case scenario!
Another's fear & anxiety can be very contagious…If we allow it be! It is very unwise to enter their world of fearful & anxious imagings!
Though this can be particularly difficult when our loved one's share their concerns, fears & anxieties with us which are founded in real life circumstances.
As you may know I have been working in Mental Health for many decades & I have the professional skill set to be able to help those whose lives have been impacted by fears, anxieties & depression.
But when it comes to my loved ones, because I don't wear my professional hat with them it can be quite challenging…as I shared in Concern, worry & anxiety…
But there are certain steps we can take that greatly help…
- We can listen
- We can validate their concerns…
Every one likes to be heard & validated, not dismissed.
We don't need to enter their fears, anxieties or worse case scenarios to validate their real concerns.
We just need to show them love in that their concerns are real & that the situation is truly concerning for them. And to recognize that the way they're feeling is emotionally impacting.
But we can also offer love, support & of course that listening ear over a cuppa. Thus in sharing with us a lightening of their load happens. They have been able to off load an emotional burden which helps them to go & address their situation with a clearer emotional state!
Helping another to share their burden does not mean taking it completely over. There is a distinction between helping to lighten a load & taking it over for them!
Jesus said, "Help one another, bearing [having enduring compassion for] one another's burdens…" Galatians 6:2
Other ways we can help lighten the load…
- We may have wisdom to share having gone through a similar experience.
- We can also offer to pray with them (if they're open to this) or we can remember them in our own time of prayer. Do not under estimate the power of prayer my friend!
Please note, if your friend or loved one has fears, anxieties & depression that have overtaken their life & need professional help please encourage them to seek it as soon as possible.
I try to be my family's cheer leader, as life can be very discouraging at times but having a listening ear & someone to validate their concerns, cheering them on as they attempt to navigate this world…can be a great source of encouragement.
Do you listen & validate your loved one's concerns or do you tend to invalidate them?
Until next time,
Jennifer is a published author, find out more in The Book Nook
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Brendan Rodgers confident Liverpool will bounce back from defeat to West Brom
Brendan Rodgers believes Liverpool will produce a positive reaction to Monday's defeat to West Brom.
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Rodgers' side travel to Zenit St Petersburg in the Europa League on Thursday on the back of a frustrating night against the Baggies, who snatched a surprise 2-0 win at Anfield.
The Reds boss was happy with the effort and commitment against Albion, and he is confident their performance will improve at Zenit.
"These players always react very well," he said. "They were very disappointed, like we all were, because we wanted to make our home form better in the league.
"We entered into the game against West Brom with the best defensive home record in the league, so that shows the mark of improvement we were making as a group.
"It's something that left the players disappointed, but they will react in the right manner. They want to work well and they're very good at moving on. That's something we'll have to do if we want to progress.
"We just have to keep striving and look towards the next game. We've got the Europa League game on Thursday night, which is a good opportunity for us to progress in a competition."


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