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5 Hogarth Street, Greenville
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109 Haddington Lane, Greenville
Booming area near Furman, Downtown Greenville and Paris Mountain and Montebello, yet also great area for nature lovers ; join in the ride on the Swamp Fox Trail or ride ...
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504 Summitbluff Drive, Greenville
Great two story home in Poplar Forest, Minutes to downtown Greenville, Travelers Rest, and Furman University, offering 4 bedrooms plus a bonus room, two full baths and on...
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14 Hillsborough Drive, Greenville
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26 Wilshire, Greenville
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(Lot 59) River Watch Drive, Greenville
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415 Elizabeth Drive, Greenville
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64 Cardinal Creek Drive, Greenville
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206 Willow Springs, Greenville
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47 Brockmore, Greenville
4 Bedroom 2 story home located in amenity subdivision and within minutes to golf course. Pool, clubhouse and playground are within walking distance of this home. Two fish...
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2 Downington Court, Greenville
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Ospreys coach Jonathan Humphreys has ruled out any new recruits arriving at the region ahead of next season due to no finances.
Kahn Fotuali'i is one of the names leaving the region at the end of the season, but Humphreys has ruled out any new signings due to the region's lack of funding.
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"Of course it's frustrating, especially when you are judged on what you win and how you go in the major competitions and everybody in that competition has more money than you to strengthen their squad.
"Look at Glasgow, they have gone on a helluva run purely on the strength of their squad. It is huge.
"Leinster will be the same. Munster next year will have the ability to go and get more players. Everybody is going to get stronger."
Humphreys also believes that the positioning of the Six Nations within the season should be reviewed, with the Ospreys losing several of their key stars to Wales during important phases of the season.
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So cool! They're doing great! My tomatoes are also not so happy with the big change in temperature.
After transferring the first batch to a bucket, they took off like a bullet and put out their beautiful white flowers.
Because some of the plants will stay indoors, I used a Q-tip and gently rubbed it in the middle of each blossom to hand-pollinate them (move pollen to stamen).
Since then I've transferred most plants and the majority of them are outdoors now.
They're doing great, but I do notice they have a bit of a rough time with first the extreme heat followed by extremely cool weather. Hopefully that will pass soon.
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They're developing fruit. Yay!
So cool! They're doing great! My tomatoes are also not so happy with the big change in temperature.
I'm impressed! I live in Texas so jalapenos are plentiful so I am very impressed with what you have done! (my dads parents came from Holland)
Ohhh…mine are also with flowers, but tinny, tinny tiny ones!
Ahhh…Kay, I have some Szechuan (Sichuan) chile seeds, that I know will grow, as I have planted them and they aren't hybrids. (Do you know about hybrid seeds?) Anyway, they are from Sichuan province in China. I have a post at my blog: http://dangermencooking.blogspot.com/2008/10/some-while-ago-while-shopping-in.html - so if you have a post office box (not a home address), I'm pleased to mail you some.
I tried to have some on my windowsill as well, but it didn't quite work out so far. Maybe my seeds were not good.
Good hint with the q-tip, though. I will try it with the other pepper and chili plants I have.
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Relive the good ol' days with a Super Nintendo emulator for Windows Phone 8
Ah, Super Nintendo. 1991 was a good time because video games were really just starting to get big and the SNES system was leading the pack for 16-bit gaming. The console is still revered by many to this day.
Now combine it with the power of Windows Phone 8's dual core CPUs, extra RAM and high resolution display and you have an ideal gaming platform—assuming the developer gets it right. Luckily for us, developer m.k. nails with his free Snes8x app for Windows Phone.
The app comes with one free demo ROM but the real fun is loading up your collection via SkyDrive. There's no URL direct import and it doesn't uncompress ZIP files, so you will need to upload them in full to a SkyDrive folder but that's a trivial thing.
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There are 124 comments. Sign in to commentVheissu says:
Plays Mario RPG like a champ, now there really is no "app gap" for windows phone anymore.
Mystictrust says:
+1 for Super Mario RPG!! One of my favorite pure turn-based RPG's of all time.
thehackattack says:
You can hook up a Wiimote or PS3 controller on an Android and play those same emulators plus other emulators that we don't have more effectively than we can. We're not even remotely there yet. This emulator does kick ass though.
zeronoise says:
I do not understand this argument...how many people travel with controllers?? Waiting at the doctors let me take my controller out so I can play a game while I wait...idea is nice but seems useless BC in most cases where I have a controller I also have a tv or computer available to use the controller with
fbloise says:
Playing Zelda here!! Hyrule, here I come!
mrshamoozoo says:
id like to see iphone users play something like this!! hahahahhaha love wp8!
jsnod25 says:
Snes8x is the best for windows so I'm glad to see it ported to WP8, wish they had it for WP7 though.
jsnod25 says:
Look out for mock recompiled of the same emulator to be sold by other rouge developers as they did on Android.
spcdog says:
You probably won't see these for WP7, since it doesn't support running native code. No one wants the headache of trying to port everything to XNA. :(
Jonas Jonsson says:
People have tries and failed with these more "advanced" emulators on WP7, it just isn't possible without native code access (which. is present on WP8).
contributorM says:
Deletes NES Pro. Installs SNES8x. Yes!!!!!!!!!
WPSteve says:
+1 I too was waiting for SNES! WOOT!
segadc says:
Does the app record your username and password on skydrive? That's my only concern.
segadc says:
Ok cool thanks.
SaucePolicy says:
This was my concern too. Just to clarify you're saying the developer won't be able to see our SkyDrive username and password? Sorry I'm just paranoid.
SaucePolicy says:
Got it. Thanks Daniel.
Reginald Atkins says:
hmm.. can't log in to skydrive with it... odd. get an access denied error.
sholokov says:
Reinstall the app and allow it access when it asks.
timmyisme22 says:
Had this issue. It's an issue with the Port. update by windows. Log out of wi-fi and connect to SkyDrive in the app. Should work from then on during wi-fi usage.
Montpbm says:
How do I get the games for this app??
Vheissu says:
That is great I didn't know there was one of those for Bing as well.
willied says:
That's hilariously awesome!
Montpbm says:
Ok Thank you Daniel..
jonathan sink says:
That is awesome how did you do that?
freestaterocker says:
I wish people would stop pussyfooting the copyright issue. I've been Binging the shit out of this since the release of vneslight for WP7, and I still haven't found a good place to get ROMs. My email is my username at hotmail. Somebody PLEASE email me a site I can use!
fwaits says:
Seriously dude, bing snes roms and almost every link on the first page of results are good ROM sites.
freestaterocker says:
Yeah, none of which I can access from my phone, which is my only access to the internet, smartass.
sholokov says:
Sulslim says:
this is much better than Xbox Live crap !!!
Kormiko says:
I really don't feel comfortable uploading ROMs to my personal SkyDrive account. Another reason why I prefer full access to a MicroSD card.
Ben Sailors says:
SD support would be nice for sure.
evilrobot says:
If only WP8 supported bluetooth gamepads... :(
tgr42 says:
Yeah... Without some sort of controller support, how could this be considered an "ideal gaming platform"? Most of these games range from unplayable to frustrating with touchscreen controls.
NickyNichols says:
The RPG games run incredible though, since controls aren't a necessity.
thehackattack says:
No one has been able to provide me a straight answer on this, but is there anything stopping us from having an app to hook up to a Wiimote or PS3 Controllers like Android phones do, or has it simply not been developed yet?
hardcoreplur says:
It might be possible but the drivers would need to be within the app, and all of the mapping would need to be in the app too. It would be tough, if not impossible.
TechManiac says:
oh come on, the WP7 hardware is ultra-enough for a snes emulator :(
nizzon says:
Virtual buttons looks too big tho, I hate when the controls creeps into the screen too much. Dread vs Zombies has best controllers ever.
Tsyokiss says:
Just like you Daniel, I'm a bit older aswell. Love this app!!
evilrobot says:
Me too! (older that is, haven't tried the app yet)
StaticPlaya says:
Just need a megadrive one and im sorted!
evilrobot says:
Yes! I would love to revisit LandStalker, Crudaser of Centy, Shining Force 1+2, and Shining in the Darkness.
sdreamer says:
That's all I need
binlabu says:
all roms Snes http://www.ppog.org/files/ROMs/SNES/
freestaterocker says:
Do they have a directory of NES ones as well?
hardcoreplur says:
Try coolrom.com
freestaterocker says:
Coolrom.com is useless to me as I only have the internet on my phone. Everyone and their dog has suggested it to me for over a year. It didn't work for me in WP7, and it still doesn't in WP8. Thanks, anyways.
DavidinCT says:
Found this just by going back to the root...
Ben Sailors says:
Yeah, Mario is really hard to play.
Quickspeedy says:
I'm on the same page. Especially trying to run and jump at the same time.
Quickspeedy says:
The graphic from super mario looks gorgeous on lumia 920!
jsantana0793 says:
Awsome.. I love it
IEvil IMonkey says:
Should keep us all entertained until the next game is released for xbl wp that isn't a Nokia exclusive
Skelnik says:
Can a MAME port be far behind?
Ticomfreak says:
Could they map the camera button as L bumper and Vol+ or Vol- as R bumper?
NickyNichols says:
The bumpers weren't used very often on snes games.
freestaterocker says:
The best way to do it. Would be if they could map ANY hardware button. For the Ativ S it would be power button for L bumper and camera button for R bumper. And the bumpers were crucial in Super Mario Kart, my all-time fave SNES game.
lubbalots says:
Where do I get the roms and how do I download the games.
IEvil IMonkey says:
I used http://coolroms.com which is great. Just download to desktop, sync with SkyDrive and download it through the app. It is covered in the article
david126 says:
The app isn't reading my roms after I placed them in SkyDrive under documents??
IEvil IMonkey says:
I just dragged them into SkyDrive mate, not into one of the 3 folders. They are easily accessible from in the app in the SkyDrive folder =) Already got Zelda and Mario Kart running
sholokov says:
Make sure you unzip them
andrewbrit says:
Another vote for " not available in china " ! You bastard MS and %#@* developer !
david126 says:
Working on desktop but not lumia
IEvil IMonkey says:
Have you tried what I just put in your previous post mate?
Slai says:
Ulike several emulators, this plays Final Fantasy 3 (or VI as its originally called) with perfect music.
Only thing is a small screen with lots of unused screen, and that we cant resize and move the buttons freely, but its nitpicking :) .
A problem is the w drain and the extreme heating of the phone during play.
Is that fixable?
Thank you so much for this app, though, its been used about 40% of my nonsleeping time the last few days :)
R0bR says:
Is this by the same developer as the SNES app for Windows RT? I run it on my Surface and use an Xbox controller, pretty awesome.
sholokov says:
I should try that. I bought a Bluetooth controller for my RT.
sholokov says:
Thanks for the tip. I just tried it. Works perfectly.
jhoff80 says:
I already mentioned this in my review in the store, but there needs to be an option for more transparency (and no colors) in the touch controls. And select and start are backwards. But those are just nitpicks. It's a really good app as it is.
david126 says:
Place roms under SkyDrive documents and it will no issue finding them, make u sign into correct SkyDrive acct and have sim in your device, works ;D
ZuNuKoo says:
This makes me want a WP8 more then other apps out there.
contributorM says:
Now just need a N64 emulator and the trifecta will be complete.
Hanhua Yin says:
I strongly suggest you guys to use a separate SkyDrive account to upload ROMs to your phone, and/or delete them immediately from SkyDrive after uploading. Microsoft can ban your account if they believe you are hosting materials that may infringe copyright. And Microsoft has been pretty active banning accounts that violate their T&C, including one well-publicized case in which a photographer uploaded some nude images which were marked as private.
Yes many ROMs are at public domain, and you can even legally make copies of ROMs that you still have the cartridges for. But even so, if Microsoft bans your account by mistake, it will be a huge pain, if not virtually impossible, to fight their bureaucratic system to get it back. And if your SkyDrive is banned, you'll lose all your digital purchases and subscriptions (Xbox games and DLCs, Zune/Xbox music passes, Xbox Gold memberships, Windows games, phone games, music, movies, ...), achievements, etc. associated with your Microsoft account as well. Your Xbox life will cease to exist.
mrshamoozoo says:
Purple cherry is still king at emulators though. But this one rocks!
TechAbstract says:
For people having issue. I think you have to extract those zip files to .smc then upload to skydrive.
sholokov says:
All games are running flawlessly on my L920 as well as Surface.
OneMoreBeerPLZ says:
Thanks for the tip, installed it immediately.
Mooshywooshy says:
If they could add pinning individual rom tiles with letting us choose the picture from our library, my home screen would extend by 2 or 3 times...
Slai says:
Anyone else struggling with the phone overheating and battery draining insanely fast using snes8x?
Daniel Ratcliffe says:
Can we get a Sega mega drive emulator too? I wanna play Sonic 3 & Knuckles!
alansari_ammar says:
Anyone noticing the extreme heat coming out from the battery during play. I was playing Dk and you could fry an egg on the Lumia back surface :(
Slai says:
Yes, and battery drains insanely fast.
operand says:
Not sure of the details but a recent update just came out.
operand says:
1.01: improved touch.
itsalwayswinter says:
I would love to get this but I'm afraid of uploading ROMs to my SkyDrive account. I don't want my account to get banned or worse. :/
Slai says:
Itsalwayswinter: make a new account and use exclusively for roms.
raevpet says:
These controls are absolutely awful. :( Fingers crossed for bluetooth controller support in a forseeable future.
Rhino47 says:
Earthbound on the go! Finally!
timmyisme22 says:
Translations that require you to patch the rom work like a champ. Loving my Tactics Ogre from Aeon Genesis.
tmservo says:
Legend of Zelda Link to the Past like a champ. Sob this is awesome
nenozi says:
There was SNES emulator for WP7 at least a year ago, but it wasn't improved in the store, because of the roms. Now here is one for WP8! Why?! Why only for WP8?
Brandon Chapman says:
WP8 supports native code. WP7 does not.
A_Hel says:
Am I the only one whose battery drain insanely fast when using this emulator? Like 10 min = 10%, without sound!
Mark Valentine says:
Muahaha I can finally start playing Dragonball Z Hyper Dimension again. Does anyone know how to connect either a ps3 or xbox360 controller to my wp8?
wanglabs says:
The only bummer for this app and the types that import/read data files is that you'd need to upload the data files to Skydrive or some cloud service. It'd be awesome if one could simply copy the data files to the phone's memory card or RAM directly from the PC.
livetraceon1 says:
how do you make the games to download on .smc format. so far when i am in a website to download a rom, the rom when unzipped comes out in a .NDS format. that kind of format does nnot work on the snes8x so far. how do i download games for the snes8x nokia 920???
Hanhua Yin says:
You know a NDS console is not a SFC console right?
livetraceon1 says:
i know that. but on what website can i download roms that come out to be saved as a .smc format for my nokia 920 windows 8? so far doperoms.com saves the roms as .nds format when i try to download. there is only one option. is not like the website gives different options of formats to be saved.
Hanhua Yin says:
you must have downloaded a NDS rom instead of SFC rom. you need to get "Super Nintendo Snes" roms instead. SFC roms are never saved into .NDS. "Nintendo Ds" is for the Nintendo DS system and it is a modern handheld console. this emulator is for Super Nintendo Entertainment System, a console released in the 90s with a lot of classic games.
Bill McGee says:
Pretty cool re-living some of those old games.... playing Contra... kind of... just a little too tough to play with my fat thumbs covering half of the screen up to get to the controls...
Angry_Mushroom says:
I've found that moving the controls to the top of the screen do wonders. At least my thumb is no longer trying to smash Mario.
Devang Sharma says:
does this work for nintendo ds games too? if so, best...phone...ever!
uopjo6 says:
My hand was burning from the heat.
Maybe I'm asking for too much but they need to find a way. I'm VERY excited about this (i'm coming Dragon Quest VI) but even if I play with a charger plugged the heat makes it feel like it's going to explode.
+1 for the app though.
bowlermonk says:
Anyone know if/how you can import SRM or save states from snes9x?
RumpRoast says:
I found that the "mini joystick it" that I got for my son's ipod works extremely well for games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat .
I got mine on Dealextreme: http://dx.com/p/aluminum-alloy-joystick-for-ipad-ipod-iphone-4-black-100687
mthorn82 says:
I downloaded and upload contra.nes into my skydrive but when I open up Snes8x it still can't find the rom file. What's going on?
mthorn82 says:
NM I got it work I was out of it and downloading NES roms instead of SNES.. duhh I'll take idiot claim of the day.
K_lando says:
It run awesomely for me, but I too have a horrible time using touch controls. A portrait mode to make it more 'gameboy like' so the controls can be at the bottom and out of the way would be a big help.
For the first time in a long time, I'm now wishing I had a physical keyboard to use as a controller. lol.
Like other have said, I'll mostly use this for slow paced games like Chronotrigger or Breath of Fire... trying to play a game like Killer Instict is totally futile. But still... it looks cool and is a good 'show-off' app. :)


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Prayer: The Ultimate Hypocrisy
If you ask your average Christian, they will tell you that prayer works.
Christians, as well as any other religion that engages in the practice of petitioning their god(s) with prayer, actually believe that their god alters the physical properties of the universe to specifically accommodate their request, regardless of how their petition might affect someone else. This has been brought to example many times by the comparison of the Christian who prays for sunshine to grace their weekend outdoor plans, but the farmer next door is praying for rain because even one more day without will ensure the destruction of his crops and leave him broke for the entire winter.
The fervent belief that many Christians have regarding the effectiveness of prayer comes about only by virtue of what their holy book says, and not on actual or statistical evidence. In the bible, the character portrayed as Jesus makes a number of promises on the topic of prayer. In the book of Matthew, Jesus is given credit for stating that whatever is asked for in "His name" will be granted. He promises that if one has a level of faith compared to the tiny mustard seed, they will be able to cast mountains into the sea. Not to mention the whole healing thing. The truth of the matter is that prayers get answered in the favor of the petitioner at about the same rate as doing nothing at all. In fact, double blind studies have shown that many sick people who know they are being prayed over actually fare worse due to performance anxiety. The convenient explanation that is used when these types of prayers are not answered, even when the situation being prayed over ends up getting worse, is that their god works in mysterious ways and those ways should not be questioned. We lowly human beings are not meant to understand the higher mind of god, you see.
It's Not Always Physics
Then there are the prayers that do not require the bending and twisting of the natural world to accommodate a need. It's not always a request a change in the weather, the avoidance of destruction by natural disaster or the eradication of some terminal illness. Having spent over a decade as a Pastor, I can tell you with great certainty that most prayer requests are quite simplistic and usually involve a need that can be met by either helping hands or an infusion of cash. A repair to a home or a vehicle is offered up, or school clothes for the kids, etc. When these needs are met, they are perceived as granted prayers. Mind you, I would be less skeptical if these needs were met without the petitioner notifying anyone. But, the reality is that these needs are not met because of divine intervention or providence, but because the prayer requests were made known to other humans. Through the camaraderie that surrounds their common belief, fellow believers are called into action. Donations are made, people show up with hammers and plywood or a box of clothing magically appears on a doorstep.
This is not god, people. I venture to say I would be less cynical about the whole process if it were genuine altruism. But it's not. The same results occur when Atheists band together to help our fellow humans out. The only difference is that we are not trying to impress a god, or anyone else for that matter, and by virtue of the fact that we are not acting with the expectation of a reward in heaven or to avoid some sort of divine retribution, our actions are a true definition of altruism. But I digress…
When called into action to help out their fellow believers, the faithful will happily tell you something like "the hand of god touched their heart and moved them to action." When confronted with the fact that unbelievers are equally generous, many Christians will respond with their belief that we are agents of Satan who, of course, masquerades as an angel. It is no secret that a vast majority of Christians believe that someone who does not have Jesus "living inside them" cannot commit true acts of kindness and selflessness, and that those of us who are professed atheists are immoral, unethical, selfish, baby-eating, Satan-worshiping cretins who would not know an act of kindness if it jumped up and bit us in our infidel butts.
Time For A Reality Check
No matter how loudly or how fervently prayers are offered, the petitioners are only talking to themselves. Hurricanes, tornadoes, tsunamis, earthquakes, sinkholes and every other natural disaster, bar none, are in no way effected by the petition of prayer because there is nobody listening. In fact, it can even be questioned whether or not the event would even be referred to as a disaster without population. A hurricane over the ocean isn't a disaster, nor is a volcano erupting on an empty island. As well, people are "healed" through medical science, the natural (evolutionary) healing abilities of the human body, our desire for self-preservation and our emotional and psychological conditions.
Christians cling to prayer because if they suddenly acknowledged the evidence that surrounds its ineffectiveness, it would force them to acknowledge all of the other inconsistencies and contradictions that pellet their faith by the shotgun of reality.
The fact remains that people still die in third world countries of diseases that can be cured with a bottle of aspirin. They still die of starvation and thirst because of a lack in the availability of food or potable water. They are still murdered every day by tyrannical despots. Ethnic cleansing is still a reality. Slavery is still a reality. Human trafficking is still a reality. Honor killings are still commonplace. Child abuse and molestation are still rampant. When unbelievers point out the obvious lack of concern by their god, the inevitable doctrine of a "fallen world" and "free will" is tramped out. This is, of course, just another example of the "higher/mysterious" excuse for the obvious absence of the divine.
If The Blind Could Only See
Blind faith is what causes an individual to ignore the sheer abundance of statistical data that prove the utter ineffectiveness of prayer, either by itself with respect to the human condition, or in toto with reference to natural disasters. There is a scientific explanation for most of the "miraculous answers" to prayers, and what cannot be explained is simply just unknown and does not mean it is supernatural. It takes a huge contortion of logic to reconcile a "loving and just god who hears and answers prayers" with the millions of faithful believers who continue to endure unimaginable suffering every single day.
It takes an astounding level of ignorance to attribute the lack of alleviation of this human suffering to an explanation as mundane and enigmatic as it being outside "his will" or not being in accordance with "his plan." The whole "free will" explanation and the effect that the "fall of man" has on our world is equally asinine, as is the belief that afflictions and suffering are somehow the fault of the victim due to their insincerity or the existence of unrepentant sin.
Yet, countless numbers of people still cling to the belief that they are talking to god and that god hears them and is working things out "for the good of those who believe." They choose to remain ignorant to the psychology that explains those "feelings" that god is communicating with them. They believe that god guides them, denying the science of natural human intuition, which our species has developed through millions of years of evolution.
The Ultimate Hypocrisy
Time spent praying may offer comfort to the faithful because they believe their efforts are effective, be it for personal reasons or for the benefit of others. The truth is that prayer is a placebo, and a dangerous one when it involves the ignorance toward science and medicine. Prayer is a perfect example of doing something for oneself and calling it helping others. It's the ultimate form of hypocrisy. This has been proven time and time again and will not change until people realize that two hands engaged in works are far more effective than two hands clasped in prayer.
Al Stefanelli – Georgia State Director, American Atheists, Inc.
Amateur writing? Really? Funny, I am a published author, writer and journalist. I think that qualifies me as a professional. As far as links go, Mr. Surfbum, allow me to use the Google for you, since it is apparent you don't know how to use a search engine. Here, here, here, here, here and here is the information you requested. This is from the first page of the search. You can continue on from there...
Mr. Stefanelli
Are you claiming in this article that praying for a sunny day is harmful to the farmer who needs rain? Should we go door to door asking people if a sunny day is out of line to ask for?
Me, when I pray, it's for people who are suffering, or the souls of those who have died before their time.
You do understand what purgatory or limbo is, do you not?
Would you have me damn those souls to this fate because the farmer needs rain?
He was commenting on Christians who pray for conflicting things at the same time. Such as when two football teams play and the fans of team A pray for team A to win while the fans of team B pray for team B to win. They can't both win at the same time. Umm...I don't really see how you misinterpreted that or linked that to the souls in purgatory...but to each his own.
As for the purgatory and limbo concepts? He's an atheist? I don't want to put words in his mouth but he probably doesn't believe such places exist or that souls exist either. Oh, and God is supposedly all knowing, all powerful, and all good...So i'm not quite sure how people would "die before their time". If he was all knowing he knew when they would die and thus that would be there time. And if they died before their time that God had set, then he isn't really all powerful is he? Or all good for letting them die too early...Or maybe he's just not all knowing. Or incompetent...Or imaginary?
If Mr. Stefanelli was commenting on Christians who pray as you describe it, he knows nothing about Christians or prayer and should keep his nose out of it.
But then, he didn't mean what you say, but he was talking to people like you, who don't pray, and don't understand why people do. So he kept it simple.
I did not misinterpret him, I understand why people pray, and it's not for a sunny day.
As for purgatory and limbo, so Mr. Stefanelli is an atheist, no kidding. I never said he should pray, I pointed out the real reason people do, and it has nothing to do with what he wrote. He makes the person who prays, a selfish person, and I point out that's not true. He says he spent over a decade as a Pastor, should I take from that, based on his words, that he spent over a decade as a liar? As an ex Pastor, he knows why people pray, he knows it's not for money or a sunny day.
And when I said "before their time" I was talking about the persons concept of their time, not God's.
What are you even talking about? You jumped from polling people about a sunny day to people being damned to purgatory. Maybe you do pray for people who are suffering, but you can't claim that everyone else that prays does it for the same reason. The whole sunny day thing was a METAPHOR genius. Most people I have heard pray do so for selfish reasons, for self-improvement, but I digress. The point of Mr. Stefanelli's article is that suffering still exists despite you praying to this all-powerful, omnibenevolent god to end all suffering. People say that god works for those who serve him, but people who serve god suffer and even die everyday. The logical conclusion is that your god is not all-powerful (the Bible itself will attest to that) or omnibenevolent. Did I use too many big words for you?
Yeah you did, especially omnibenevolent (you used it twice in one paragraph). I prefer the term "perfect goodness" but then, I'm a practicing Catholic not a Protestant dropout.
By the way, after 52 years of living, I have never once heard a person praying out side of mass, and even then, they never announce the reason for their prayer. How do you hear, not only people praying, but what they are praying for? We must live on different worlds, or perhaps you are one of the unfortunate congregants who attended the church where Mr. Stefanelli lived a lie as a Pastor for over a decade.
People who say that God works for those who serve Him, don't understand the meaning of omnibenevolent.
Here's a page with a small article on Christians who still believe the world is flat
Here's some pages with info on Christian beliefs that believes the world is flat
Oh, and herpderp was obviously poking fun at Surfbum5412...though I suppose you can interpret what he said however you want. You tend to misinterpret really simple points quite often...
I'm an ex-Mormon turned atheist, and ever since I became convinced that the religion of my childhood was a fraud, I've never turned back.
Except once.
I had friends coming over for dinner one evening and I couldn't get the toilet unclogged. Try as I might, nothing would do the trick. The task at hand was too fierce for a plunger. I even unscrewed the shower head and blasted the sucker with hit water.
Then a thought came to me, straight from God: "Pray to me, thou lost son."
"Okay," I said. "I'll bite, God."
So I prayed to God and asked if to prove to me if he really did exist by inflicting my toilet, right here, right now.
I received the answer that I needed from God. "Use the plunger with more force, Peter."
So I did...
And it worked. I'll never forget that blessed sound of water and sewage being swept away.
But I'm still an atheist.
Thanks, God!
If you were an atheist, you would not have been able to hear his voice. once saved, your spirit has already been exposed to some of God's truth, rather you accept or reject it, it is still inside of your heart.
My folks were oince mormon, not really comittred but none th eless, they liked what it did for them until they both recieved Christ, it radcally changed their lives for the better.
this article is right on, although i would disagree with the statement, "The fact remains that people still die in third world countries of diseases that can be cured with a bottle of aspirin". as far as i know, aspirin doesn't cure anything. it is an anti inflammatory and decreases minor to moderate pain. myself, i take an 81 mg aspirin every day to help reduce my risk of heart attack or stroke; a practice more effective than all the prayers in the world.
Prayer doesn't even make sense in the context of current Christian theology.
1. God has a plan already planned out.
2. He will only give you what you ask for if it is part of that plan.
Conclusions: He's going to do whatever he wants regardless of what you ask for. If he knows you need something and giving it to you is part of the plan, he'll do so without you having to ask. The conclusion, of course, is that prayer is useless because it changes nothing. To suggest otherwise is to suggest that we have power over god, which is absurd.
What makes more sense is that prayer is capable of harnessing the power of the placebo effect at best.
What you clearlydo not understandis why god WANTS to use prayer to communicate with us mere mortals. He knows what lies ahead, and he alone knows what your purpose on earth he has for you. As such it was his idea to use prayer as a two way form of comunication. One in which his spirit communicates directly with your spirit.
So, either way, the communication technique is extememly effective. Effective, fervent prayers are prayers that actually do the most good, because they do not yield to circumstances that nature, other sentient beings and people use to disuade true beleivers from their course of ministry.
Wheter one beleives the truth or not about prayer does not, cannot and will not change the outcome to the unbeleiver.
But to the christian's and other's for whom prayer has WORKED like myself, it is a very special way of talking to the only being capable of influencing the outcome of any given situation, and making it work together for good.
I realize many atheists exist, just the fact that they do, makes us beleivers quite certain we are in touch with a powewr more amazing than anythying an athiest has. especially when radical experiences by milions of believers all point to the same one true God, who has chosen to reveal himself to us becasue we "beleived".
You are truly wasting your time here.
I know you think you are doing noble work for your god - or whatever - but you are only proving our point by everything you have just said.
You will not 'save' anybody here. We are 'saved' by reason and logic, and nothing else.
KD, you've completely missed the point of what I was trying to say. One need not communicate with god, he would know all your thoughts, desires and needs. He will do what he will do regardless of what you pray for because it's all planned out ahead of time. Even if god wanted to communicate with us despite the fact that it's unnecessary, it wouldn't change anything. You get to have that conversation, but god still does as god will do. The only thing prayer could do in such a context is make you feel better... but of course even whether or not you feel better would be part of god's plan. Let me lay out a few scenarios.
A basic prayer could be translated as thus: "god, I know you have a plan for everything. Regardless of what that plan is, I want x."
From that point there are a few options.
1. What you ask for is part of the plan and you get it.
2. What you ask for is not part of the plan and you don't get it.
3. What you ask for is not part of the plan and god changes his plan to accommodate you.
In both 1 and 2, your prayers are useless because it's all about god's plan. In 3, you have an immutable unchanging god changing his mind and altering the course of the universe just for you. Number 3 is obviously ridiculous. Why does theists not seem to ever get this one?
The fun part is that if prayer works, god must not have a plan, he must not be omnipotent, or he must be capable of changing his mind (which would negate the necessity of the sacrifice of Jesus). Interestingly, there's precedent for this in the bible. Right there in Genesis you've got a couple of stupid humans that don't even know right from wrong throwing a monkey wrench into all of god's plans.
And weren't you the same person who posted
"Idiotic, ignorant, imbeciles? Many would say that about you.
No matter which side uses such terms, it's of no help, it doesn't further the discourse.
You can bad mouth the GOP, democrats and independents all you want, I won't say a word."
And yet also called "whoknew42" an idiot on this page?
Though I suppose hypocrisy is a part of human nature. Oh and a big part of Christianity too...
Lol, I concede your point once again jmcg1213. I chuckled quite a bit after reading your comment on peter.
You do make excellent points. I was rather bored and closed-minded towards humor and such while skimming through and commenting and I do apologize if my boredom caused me to be a bit mean-spirited.
In regards to your comments on prayer
I may not pray or believe in God but I can understand, at least somewhat, where you're coming from. Perhaps I've allowed myself to be a bit too influenced in my views on such things that I've started to view things too closed-mindedly. I should probably work on that before i get too set in my ways...
I'm aware that out in the world there are some christians and members of other faiths that pray for selfish reasons at times and that there are some that use prayer in rather extreme ways such as using prayer as a substitute for medicine or hard work. Personally, I view the selfish prayers as merely selfish and the prayers used as direct substitutes of medicine and hard work to be foolish and dangerous. Although I don't speak for Al, I think those were the prayers he was writing about. The kind of prayers that the members of the Christian science church use in regards to dealing with physical illnesses in place of vaccinations and medicine for example.
I do think that there are many in the world who pray for selfless reasons. Such prayers seem quite nice and I personally can find no fault in them. Since I don't pray myself, I view the selfless prayers as similar to wishing the best for others and hoping that their bad situations improve. Though I don't believe in a God, I can understand thinking about loved ones and friends who have passed away and somewhat understand the Christian concept of praying for souls in purgatory and Limbo.
Again I do apologize if a came off as being close-minded to humor and mean spirited. Need to remember its ok to laugh at self and others.
I so often hear believers claim prayer is a persons way of communicating with God and His way of communicating with people. I would like a believer to please state in clear terms what it is that God has actually told you personally in one of your prayer sessions. What did the allegedly all knowing, all merciful deity say to you so you can share it all with the world? Please be so kind to inform us nonbelievers what beautiful and powerful words were imparted on you. Much appreciated.
I haven't personally met any people who claim that God talks to them. I did however have a friend who came back from some trip to Europe with his church where he met someone who claimed God talked to them. It's worth noting that the person as my friend described him was a pretty odd and disturbed individual. It was while talking about this that my christian friend told me that in his honest opinion, "When you talk to God it's called prayer. When God talks to you its called Schizophrenia."
Raymond, that is too funny. I have met one person in my life who claimed God actually spoke to him. This person I know to be pretty sane. But when I asked him to share what God said, he told me it was personal and would not divulge. He will not even allow me to broach the topic any longer. Too bad for me I guess.
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Ghosts and goblins may be scary, but the thought of Halloween injuries to trick-or-treaters is even more frightening.
Just like trick-or-treating children, Halloween's hidden dangers also come in disguise. The major dangers don't come from witches or spirits but rather from falls and pedestrian/car crashes.
According to a recent study that looked at holiday-related pediatric emergency room visits between 1997 and 2006, Halloween is among the top three holidays producing the most ER visits. The single most common Halloween injury was finger/hand injuries, with the majority of those being cuts and broken bones.
That's the bad news. The good news is most Halloween accidents are easily preventable. With a little thought and preparation, you can make Halloween safety as easy as pie ... pumpkin pie, that is.
So, without further ado, here are five tips to keep your little monsters safe and healthy this year while ensuring everybody still has some frightful fun ...
No. 5: Make sure your own house is in order
Things can get more than a little hectic for parents as Halloween approaches. There are costumes to be bought or made, pumpkins to be procured and carved, candy to be purchased and so much more to be done.
Amid all the worrying about your own children, it can be too easy to forget about all the other kids who will be traipsing through your yard.
The American Academy of Pediatrics suggests clearing the porch and front yard of anything a child could trip over, such as garden hoses, toys, bikes and lawn decorations. Also, make sure all walking areas are well lit and that jack-o'-lanterns are placed away from stairways and landings.


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Any good suggestions for Rock Bands through 2000-2012 erra. None of that grundgey screamo crap either.
i am really picky with new rock but red line chemistry is okay kinda sounds like stone tempel pilots...cant go wrong with hed pe and rage against the machine. system of a downs okay
cky or chevelle too
local band they are okay really good in concert though ive been to a few http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5ahKxvNWu0&feature=results_vide...
hed pe and rage against the machine are the only 2 i have even though there other good ones out there. I've only heard 2 songs by black oxygen but they don't seem bad either. They're more the rock I like a decent range of rocks. Like sublime can't forget them either.
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