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I noticed that the only time I actually read Kanji is in SRS.
I learn most Vocabulary in hiragana and..I rarerly read stuff in Japanese I just watch allot of Anime and Dramas and I understand it very well thanks to all the vocabulary I learned with Hiragana .
Sure it won't get me a ''job'' in Japan nor I would be able to read signs in Japan, but hey I do not live in Japan and I can easily manage in a conversation if I ever get confronted with it.
Okay and yes sure I will be missing out on some fun stuff that is heavily Kanji based, but even websites can be furiganized these days.
So really for my goals of learning Japanese I wonder why keep frustrating myself with Kanji?
One of my first triggers to learn Japanese was ''lol what if I could watch this show without subtitles'' and somehow that is still what I deep down only want .
I am not looking for confirmation or some encouragement to do kanji,but I would like your opinion on this view.
Nope, 橋 - bridge and 箸 - chopsticks are both read はし, and there are numerous other occurrences like this in Japanese. Simply put when reading Kanji gives a distinct meaning to a word and when speaking you depend on context clues and tones.
But I am Listen en watch more Japanese so I should be able to know the context of the word easily.
On top of that I always learn Vocabulary in sentences or Furiganized Kanji. So I always know the word or the context.
It's possible to be very functional in Japanese without a lot of kanji, but even that functionally illiterate level requires between 600-1000 daily use kanji. Most Japanese people know between 2500-3000, and it affects the way they communicate.
From time to time there's misunderstandings that are solved by someone explaining which kanji are in the word they're using while drawing it on their hand with their finger.
Even if you don't want to read, I think kanji are such a large part of the culture that to ignore them becomes more work than just learning them to begin with. Also, you're on a forum of a site with the mission to learn kanji...I wonder what kind of responses you're going to get.
Last edited by erlog (2012 June 07, 5:07 pm)
You have a clear goal in mind. What you do works just fine for achieving that goal. So continue doing it.
We are all literate in our native language/s and most of us want to be literate in our target language/s. With that in mind, learning to read early is more efficient for us.
You may, of course, want to learn how to read japanese in the future. You can do it, too, not unlike the japanese people or almost all (deaf people differs a little) literate people in their native languages, after you have a good command of the spoken language.
Last edited by qwarten (2012 June 07, 5:36 pm)
You'll be illiterate. Are you sure you'll never want to read normal content? Books, internet?
Haib, how are you approaching learning Kanji? It's possible to learn less kanji and use just those in words that use it and kana in the rest.
If it helps, find Japanese subtitles for your anime and dramas. That'll get you reading and listening at the same time.
I think it would be kind of smart for most people to gain an adequate aural comprehension of Japanese before they start hardcore kanji study, personally. I think it's not irrelevant that kids generally have been speaking the language for years before they start writing it. Homophones are not a huge problem -- we have lots of them in English, too, and generally they're resolvable from context, pitch accent, and from the fact that some of them are much commoner than others.
At the same time, I think there are some things it's hard to get over without knowing kanji -- like the technobabble in some science fiction anime. (Because a lot of those scientific words won't come up in conversation, so you pretty much have to learn them by reading.) And generally, I find that it's easier to passively acquire vocabulary through reading than through listening, because the words don't come at you so fast.
Personally I really like reading books. And not all the books I want to read are the kind of light novels I'm liable to find on torrent sites. But you're the best person to judge what you want to achieve. It may be that you're happy forever with a mostly-aural knowledge of the language, and it may be that you come to a point where you feel the need to improve your kanji knowledge.
Well, if you'd learn Arabic without learning the أَبْجَدِيَّة عَرَبِيَّة, why not? Or English without reading, and without being able to read and contribute internet forums etc, just to watch TV and have a chat here or there, that's perfectly fine.
With hindsight, though, I think learning kanji was the easy part, so I would just get on with it.
DoctorHabib, you definitely can. There are plenty of fluent speakers who didn't learn to read well or at all. You can always return to kanji later if your reason for learning Japanese changes.
Knowing kanji has a number of benefits (both during the language learning journey and as a final outcome.) But, as you say, considering your objective you can weigh the benefits against the big investment of your time.
I also think it can be very motivating and beneficial to build a language foundation and get some proficiency in listening and speaking before tackling the RTK/kanji vocab mountain (for those who do.) I'm not so sure it can be compared to how native children learn to read, however. Foreign learners using reading to acquire the language is a bit different. And neither will be already familiar with all the new vocab they encounter while reading.
(Mr AJATT has observed that many people give up after RTK. Maybe he'll modify his advice given the number of people giving up on Japanese before they even get started. His order works, I think, for a certain kind of person, but that's not most people.)
s0apgun wrote:
Nope, 橋 - bridge and 箸 - chopsticks are both read はし
If the OP is learning Japanese by listening then he will hear the difference.
If he's coming from a language without pitch accent or tones then he probably won't notice the difference. But context takes care of it usually anyway.
It's certainly possible to learn enough to watch TV in Japanese without learning kanji.
However, one thing to consider is that knowing kanji may help with that in some ways, since learning things in a written format can ultimately help improve your listening.
Another thing, which is just advice, is that learning a language can open new doors to you in unexpected ways. If you learn kanji it might have unexpected benefits in the future. For example, maybe you'll one day find that you really like Japanese novels (even if you're not much of a reader in English!). Or maybe you'll one day find yourself living in Japan.
At any rate, I think putting a lot of effort into language learning can help teach you other skills in life, and learning kanji could be part of that. So, if you're a rather busy person already I'd say don't worry about the kanji. If you have a lot of free time, why not try to learn the kanji as a life experience?
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s0apgun wrote:
Nope, 橋 - bridge and 箸 - chopsticks are both read はし
If the OP is learning Japanese by listening then he will hear the difference.
There are about 50 million or so Japanese people who will disagree with you on how those words are pronounced.
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There are about 50 million or so Japanese people who will disagree with you on how those words are pronounced.
Haha, yeah. Certainly us 関西人 do! And we love to make fun of the Tokyo-ites!
The OP is basically right.
Theoretically, you could learn Japanese to a fluent level with no real problem using just kana. The amount of resources containing furigana are more than enough to get you to that point.
Except you'll still be technically illiterate. If you are fine with that, then I say go ahead and continue with what fits your style and language learning goals.
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But it's not really theoretical if people have been doing it for a long time, right? I mean, they were getting fluent using romaji. (There weren't the advantages then of knowing kana).
Admittedly, unlike the OP, they were living in Japan and needed to speak it. But the listening opportunities for self learners now are amazing. I think the OP might want to find speaking partners, though. Meaningful output and feedback will improve what he gets from listening.
I personally think reading is a huge advantage (and kanji are interesting), but it's not a necessity by any means. As I mentioned before, I think fewer people would give up if they could achieve some level of ability to communicate and comprehend within a reasonable time.
I agree with most of the people in this thread. It's not hard to learn kanji if you're already using an SRS. Just put in a card with the front being '行く' and the back being 'いく'. Sure, there are some words that have the same kanji and okurigana but different pronunciations, but it isn't a problem in 99.9% of the time.
With that being said, you don't have to learn kanji. As long as you're having fun, don't worry about.
However, let me give you one good reason you may want to learn how to read. In the past couple of years, there have started to be subtitle files for Japanese dramas and anime appearing online. You can read what the characters are saying in your favorite shows. Whenever I watch a show with subtitles, my comprehension increases by easily 20-30%. I enjoy it more because I understand it more.
I personally find not problem with not using Kanji if you are willing to accept illiteracy. Kids learn their native language orally first, then the written form. However, compare the speech of two people where one is illiterate and the other is literate and you can definitely notice a difference in their speech.
I am shooting for literacy, because I feel that it will help me gain vocab faster, but one doesn't have to do the same.
anything is possible under the Sun.
I've never heard anyone speak in kanji (or hiragana for that matter). I sometimes think I must have been unlucky.
buonaparte wrote:
I've never heard anyone speak in kanji (or hiragana for that matter). I sometimes think I must have been unlucky.
I personally have never seen the "draw kanji in the air to clarify meaning" thing with the exception of how to spell people's names.
I think sticking with hiragana makes perfect sense for a lot of people. Adult students convinced the director of a private Japanese school that I have attended to change the curriculum so that many classes concentrate more on comprehension and oral fluency and less on Kanji while adding a track for people who wanted more Kanji and reading practice. The school was going under because adult students were failing the final exams and were stuck taking the same level over and over. Many students are professionals whose jobs requires then to travel to Japan, but who don't really need Japanese fluency because they work in English eg. doctors who teach short courses in Japanese hospitals. Some students are Japanophiles or lovers of some particular Japanese drama, anime, music etc. Only a few students are aiming for literacy. Now more students who attend this school are achieving a usable level of comprehension and oral fluency.
yudantaiteki wrote:
buonaparte wrote:
I've never heard anyone speak in kanji (or hiragana for that matter). I sometimes think I must have been unlucky.
I personally have never seen the "draw kanji in the air to clarify meaning" thing with the exception of how to spell people's names.
Actually, i get the "writing kanji in the air" thing all the time when talking to japanese people. Usually when i ask them about a kanji and no one has pen and paper.
The writing in the air thing is ingrained in the culture, and it isn't just kanji. My students will do it in English, and I'll frequently do it if I'm describing how to spell something to one of them. The difference in comprehension is night and day.
Maybe some day I'll see it, but I haven't yet (outside of, as I said, names -- but even then in my experience it's more common to describe the kanji rather than trying to draw it in the air, which is often confusing). If it's "ingrained in the culture", it must be other places than where I've lived.
Usually when i ask them about a kanji and no one has pen and paper.
Well, I was thinking of situations outside a direct question of "what kanji do you use for this word?" Which isn't something that comes up in normal conversation that often.
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Thursday, April 03, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Poll: Honeymoon Destinations
Here are their requests:
* Somewhere beachy.
* Somewhere outside the U.S.
* Somewhere not too expensive.
* Somewhere that will be warm in late August.
* Somewhere awesome!
Any ideas, my lovelies?
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I was thinking Mikonos in Greece. I know people who went there and they said it was amazing.
I agree that Europe is kinda expensive, but if you manage ur budget wisely, you wont spend too much.
The Far East - Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand have some great beachy islands, but it sometimes rains in August.I totally agree with AnastasiaC: Cyprus is absolutely amazing, beautiful, and doable on a non-astronomical budget. Also, the island of Djerba in Tunisia is supposed to be amazing. In both places, you get beaches, diving, culture, ruins, and great food!
For a little more money, Merbella in Spain is also one of the most spectacular places I have ever been.Djerba IS amazing! They could also try Hammamet, Gabès, or Sidi Bou Said, though the latter is a bit touristy for my liking. It only takes a few hours to get between all these cities (Gabes and Djerba are farther away, but rather close to each other), so it would be possible to do a bit of a tour. Tunisia is so amazing and pretty cheap.
ReplyDeleteWe went to Koi Sumai, Thailand and it fits all of those specifications to a T. It is definitely far away, but it is so reasonable. We spent a little of 2 weeks living in our own hut and also spent some time in Bangkok and for around $4 - 5k. I'd be happy to give your friend more information if she's interested. We can't say enough wonderful things about it.
Plus, the Thai people are amazing, friendly, and a lot of them (and the street signs) are also in English.these are amazing ideas, thank you so much! and keep them coming! :)
lina, i was thinking....how about ponza, italy; or madeira, portugal, where my sis went on her honeymoon (and LOVED it). and budget travel said that "yugoslavia is the new croatia." apparently the beaches are gorgeous and it's not expensive at all.
budget travel's website is actually a really good resource. they have great ideas, and you know that everything they write about will be not-too-expensive-at-all. xoxoLoved Bali. After the cost of the flight, everything is really reasonable. Stay half the time beachside in Seminyak or Sanur and half inland in Ubud at Alam Indah in the Hibiscus room that overlooks the terraced rice fields. It's like being in a treehouse. The monkey forest temple is a five minute walk. I was there in November but I think August is supposed to be nice, dry, and breezy.
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Costa Rica for sure! Cheap, beachy, and defintitely warm in August.
Also- The Greek Cyclades. My boyfriend and I stayed on Andros Island for a week last July. GORGEOUS beaches with cliff diving and snorkling with octopi. Very romantic. Close to Athens and other popular islands for sightseeing- stay the night on Santorini in the town of Oia for the sunset views, stop on Paros for the food in the town of Naoussa, and take a day trip to Mykonos to get lost in the windy little streets. On Andros stay in Batsi! the only thing about madeira is that it's not really beachy (i mean, it's an island, but it's really hilly and the beaches are rocky)... but there are all these old restored hotels with fabulous pools and gardens. it is the greatest! my other suggestion is st. john in the virgin islands (hotels are expensive but nothing else is -- maybe you could get some kind of deal)... it is totally stunning and the beaches are just white sands and warm water.
ReplyDeleteEl Dorado Royale in the Riviera Maya, Mexico. I cannot possibly say enough amazing things about it!!! Super food, scuba diving, service, and it's BEAUTIFUL! It's very secluded and private with a couple different small towns a cab ride away. It's a great bargain and worth far more than what you will actually spend.
ReplyDeleteI honeymooned in the Cinque Terre area -- it's breathtaking! I would recommend it highly, but as other people have posted, the Euro makes you want to cry if you visit Europe right now.
The Ligurian Coast (Cinque Terre, Portofino) is amazing, but I imagine the Amalfi coast is good too!
COSTA RICA!! I just returned from there and I couldn't possibly recommend it any higher. It's romantic with amazing beaches but there are also fun, active things to do, like surfing or fishing. And your dollar will go a lot further here (although, not as far as you think, prices are rising quickly as American tourists keep coming).
I've heard Madeira is beautiful, it's on my list of 'next places to visit'.I know this has already been put out there, but I've got to say COSTA RICA!!! Go to the pacific side, stay at "Si Como No" (an amazing eco-resort that is set right on the coasat in the jungle - literally I followed a troupe of monkeys as they made their way across the hotel one day)!!! It's close to Manuel Antonio national park which has amazing wildlife (take the 7am hike, you see everything!), one of the "best beaches in the world" inside the park, it's safe and you don't have to just stay at your hotel, it's a short plane ride and it's super-affordable! And if you're a surfer, it has great surfing. Ok, that's my two cents. Good luck to your friend - being married is so great!
ReplyDeleteplaya del carmen has a beautiful beach but it's REALLY touristy, lots of annoying spring breakers.
if you're heading to the yucatan peninsua in mexico, just drive a little farther and you'll reach Tulum, which still has tourists, but a more low-key, adventurous people....and the beach is SO beautiful, and the town is quieter and much more rustic....i'm a brazilian living in holland and my suggestion goes to trancoso-bahia-brazil
it's an amazing place with a mix of fishman village and trend palce, always sunny and you can find different buget places to stay
i use to go there a lot and i miss it very much
sorry about my english...i'm talking more dutch latelly uuurrrrI'd say the Andalucia region of southern Spain. Lots of beautiful beaches and old historic places to explore.
The Euro is strong...but I think you can probably budget for your honeymoon (but maybe I'm biased...i just came back from living in London six months. Pshaw! The Euro is NOTHING compared to the pound. :) )- danielle12:33 PM
I just came back from Mexico and I argree Joanna; go to Tulum in stead of Playa del Carmen (although hotel Shangri La is great - not crowded at all and with a private beach). Some other suggestion: Italian island Sardinia, one of the Greek Cyclades islands (for example Santorini) and Bali.
ReplyDelete i would definitely recommend croatia. i was there about 7 years ago (my graduation trip from college) and the coast was quite lovely. beautiful beaches. also, rather inexpensive.
let's see...
southeast asia is always a good bet too.
OR...zanzibar! i've never been but have always dreamed of taking a honeymoon there.MY husband and I went to Italy last August for our honeymoon. I studied there for a semester so I thought I knew how it would be. I was wrong. It was burning hot, expensive and crowded. Cinque Terre used to be an empty off the beaten path place. I used to go almost every weekend and would barely see tourists. Now it's like a girls gone wild spring break destination...ugh. It's still spectacular and the med sea is gorgeous. It was too hot for us so we hopped an over night train for Paris which was cool, beautiful, and the best time of our lives. Though it's expensive, we'll never regret spending our last 3 days there. Best trip ever. Macarons...j'taime.
ReplyDeleteonce again, Cuppa Jo comes through! Jo, this is amazing. I feel like your readers are planning my life--in a good way! It's better than Google :)
All these suggestions are amazing. You've made me seriously consider Tunisia, Mexico, Yugoslavia, Bali, Madeira and Croatia. As for Costa Rica it is totally amazing, but we've both been there already. And Italy is, of course, incredible but I fear the Euro! (and the summer crowds)
Another place we're considering: Vietnam. It looks amazing. I am slightly wary of the 20 hour-travel time, but if anyone has been there, let me know if it's worth it.
And, we haven't picked a song yet, but I wrote down all the ones you all suggested and I'm planning to sort through when I have a moment.
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thanks again for all your help!- Nina3:05 PM
hi there! i'm from croatia (one of the countries that were created when yugoslavia split up - yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore since the early 90's) and i think its a good idea to consider some of the islands here. especially late august. the sea food is very delicious especially squid!
ReplyDelete I was so thrilled to see this post. Congrats to your friend on her upcoming nuptials. Seriously, this post could not have come at a better time. I'm getting married in three weeks and we still haven't planned our honeymoon. Yikes! We were going to make plans tonight and all the comments from these wonderful people have helped with some ideas. How serendipitous to find your blog and this post today of all days! :-)
I will be coming back for more more more!- tag4:08 PM
I second the El Dorado Royale Resort in the Mayan Riviera! We went there for our honeymoon, and had a wonderfully relaxing time! Adults only, far away from the clubs, all inclusive, you never have to leave the resort unless you want to venture out to the Mayan ruins (which I highly recommend!)
ReplyDelete we are not cruise people. but I could not handle planning a vacation while planning a wedding so we did a caribbean cruise. it was perfect. you know how much it costs ahead of time... on the days at sea you do not feel guilty at all spending all day in bed or naked on your patio. I wanted to just relax after all the stress and it was great:)
ReplyDeleteIt may be further than your friends are planning to travel, but I would suggest Sri Lanka... it's an absolutely amazing place and totally meets the criteria!!
We were married in December and had a few days on Burgh Island http://www.burghisland.com/ with a view to taking our proper honeymoon (Hong Kong and Japan) in the Spring... but I broke my ankle very badly 10 days after we were married, so we still have our trip to look forward to!!The best two weeks of my life were those spent on my honeymoon in Portugal. We flew into Lisbon and did city stuff for a few days, drove south to the coast and played on the beaches of the Algarve for a week, and took off for the north again to visit amazing medieval towns.
My brother-in-law had convinced us to go to Slovenia, but we couldn't get tickets at that time. It definitely sounds like Slovenia's a country to consider, too.how about portugal? although its the euro, its not that expensive and budget travel did an article on the coast of portugal.
Tulum or Isla Holbox (both near Cancun) are really awesome in Mexico.
And I would say Tobago is really nice and the conversion rate is great too.I would be wary of using Budget travel company! They tend to be 'package holidays' and you will get just that. Avoid anything that has a 'kids club'! From personal experience they tend to be lower class families at these resorts. Chilling by the pool, beer guts hanging out and I'm not even talking about the men! Not my cup of tea and I don't mean to sound snobby!
Mykonos is an amazing island if Greek islands are the choice. If they're doing that then I'd advise staying there for the majority and taking a ferry to Santorini for two or three days also. Avoid Ios at all costs! Mykonos is better in very late August and September.
The North of Spain is also beautiful and a nice option.
I've been living on Aruba for the past seven months and I have to say it is honeymoon central! You can play 'count the newlyweds' in the hotel area. It's goreous here and would recommend it but be wary of the tourist traps! Can do Aruba quite cheaply if you're in the know!Hoi An, Vietnam! This UNESCO site is a gem! The airfare will set you back a bit. But once there, food is fabulous and very inexpensive--- tradtional vietnamese and curry to the best chocolate mousse... ever-- stay at a romantic "boutique" hotel for 35 a night. Or splurge and stay here (http://www.victoriahotels-asia.com/eng/hotels-in-vietnam/hoi-an-beach-resort-spa). The beaches are awesome!!! Must go...
ReplyDeleteAustralia!!!! the beaches on the north coast of NSW are absolutely gorgeous. dont go to northern QLD though, because of crocodiles, bluebottles etc. but i live on the north coast and i have to say that our beaches are the best. the water is clear, accomodation is reasonable, our sand is exported its so good, the weather is usually good. its absolutely picturesque. if you need some more info just let me know.
ReplyDeleteHong Kong! I am a bit late for posting but I was reading Read Me's comment about going to Hong Kong. If you have gone could you tell me what it was like going as a tourist?
I live in Hong Kong and for me, Hong Kong would be the last place I would spend my honeymoon, or any holiday... I have lived here for 8 years now and as someone who has lives here, I think it is too hot, too polluted, and too crowded. And, well I don't think so anyway, isn't much to do here. I am originally from New Zealand and think living in New Zealand is much better than living here.
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Sunday, February 5, 2012
New Princess Cadence Images
A couple of new images of one of the Princess Cadence toys have popped up. It looks like they will be rolling with a giant sized one similar to the talking Celestia from a while back.
I still wonder what crazy geneology spawned this princess that keeps breaking all the rules, but I'm sure we will find out with the episode. Here's to hoping it's a "Bride goes CRAZY" one! Wouldn't THAT be interesting.
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- Killsteal_Wolf said...
If we have a Pink Alicorn now, can Celestia finally be White?
- February 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM
- Travis Smith said...
I wonder if they pull a Celestia and she is actually a different color in the show
- February 5, 2012 at 3:06 PM
- Mr. Sandcolt said...
I want to see Celestia and/or Luna get all Jelly over a new princess XD
- February 5, 2012 at 3:06 PM
- James Corck said...
I don't know what got into me, but that toy looks actually really good. I will definitely buy it, it reminds me a lot to the G2 pony toys.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM
- coolpowers said...
It would be amazing if Cadence's reason for existence was to bring a white Celestia toy that doesn't spout mindless drivel.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM
- Octavia said...
"Bride goes CRAZY" one!
lol I really wouldn't count on that, Seth.
As for genealogy, it's a kids show about talking ponies. Let's not try looking into this -too- deeply, shall we? ;)
I can't see most Bronies flocking to the stores for this one of course. Though I'm sure the little girls will like it. I do kinda like her sorta swept-back wing style. And her golden hoof guards are so shinnney~ - February 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM
- brony and proud of it said...
I'm twelve and what is this?
^not really^
But still WTF - February 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM
- MyBoyJ said...
I'm still hoping that Cadence is just a storybook character, or she lived thousands of years ago and is Celestia and Luna's mother.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM
- ClutterCluster said...
...probably going against popular opinion here but I think she is very pretty. :3
But they spelled her name wrong on the packaging! - February 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM
- y2kyle89 said...
Is it sad the first thing I thought was "What's her Cutie Mark?"
- February 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM
- NoXogz said...
Oh look, it's pink Celestia with a different mane color, and a new crown to boot!
Way to save up money on making toys Hasbro.
At least I hope that money goes towards the people making the actual show 'cuz they sure as hay deserve it more than however is designing this toys. - February 5, 2012 at 3:10 PM
- Abotosa said...
IS it safe to assume that these are actually misproduced Celestia dolls?
- February 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM
- Travis Smith said...
Is there a meme yet for Pulling a Celestia?
I don't know why but it's sounds like it should be one - February 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM
- Celestia said...
Magic/unspecified relative/friend/unknown dignitary.
At the very least she has a reason to be PINK
*cough cough* - February 5, 2012 at 3:11 PM
- MyBoyJ said...
On the original wedding invitation thing that first showed her, her name was spelled "Cadence". Somepony has some 'splainin' to do... - February 5, 2012 at 3:13 PM
- NoXogz said...
whoever NOT however.
Derped for a moment there, sorry. - February 5, 2012 at 3:15 PM
- Cgeta said...
I hope they don't break something fundamentally in the show only because Hasbro wants to sell a new toy. D:
Recently I'm not very happy with them anyway. - February 5, 2012 at 3:17 PM
- coolpowers said...
Yeah, it was more a comment about Hasbro not really caring if the toys match the show :) - February 5, 2012 at 3:18 PM
- RushingRoulette said...
I really like her mane... In fact, I rather like her in general.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:21 PM
- Soph93 said...
she is a little too pink but, like any good brony, i am goint to tolerate her... with fire and magnets!
- February 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM
- Shippoyasha said...
Why the heck is she contrversial in any way again? Fanon needs to step back and breathe.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:22 PM
- abbybachicha93 said...
Im just sayin right now, I cant wait for Princess Cadence i love her so much. And i think this toy is gorgous!!!
- February 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM
- D-pad Dash said...
Wow this looks really cool!
*Looks at vector on box*
Hasbro,I am very disapointed in you.
First,you make Celestia white.
I guess that could have been a mistake.
But a new princess appears.
These princess toys suck.
Hey...Y U NO have large Luna toy?
Luna is best princess ya morons! - February 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM
- Altherix said...
Is why I feel sick whenever Cadence gets mentioned.
Mane looks like she lost a fight with a paint shaker machine. :P - February 5, 2012 at 3:25 PM
- Shantara said...
Princess Cadence is actually alicorn Twilight. And she gets married to random one shot stallion.
You mad bronies? - February 5, 2012 at 3:28 PM
- Frenchi said...
I think her cutie mark might be those birds on the box... Like, wedding doves or something? Because apparently her special talent is getting married.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:29 PM
- Sothalic said...
The more I see it, the more it makes sense...
Phase out pink Celestia, introduce Cadence/Cadance, release white Celestia, since there's already a pink princess toy. New toys to buy, and the horrendous change that was forced because of retailers pushing pink for higher sales is circumvented, win/win. - February 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM
- Jaberwocky said...
A different color in the show? Hell, she's a different color -on the box art-
- February 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM
- MyBoyJ said...
Up to now, there have been only two Alicorns who are apparently immortal deity-like entities with control over major celestial bodies. It isn't presently clear how Cadence fits into this structure.
I have two theories. Either she is a fictional character from a storybook, or she lived thousands of years ago and is Celestia and Luna's mother. - February 5, 2012 at 3:32 PM
- Cgeta said...
I would love it when they added her so they could make Celestia white. But I hope this is her only purpose.
I hope that, when she appears in the show, that the makers of it do a good job explaining everything. I wouldn't mind if she canonically appears somewhere in the past, before Celestia and Luna, or so. Or if she is just a character in a story in the show. - February 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM
- Overkill said...
What Jaberwocky said. The box art is just a vector ripped from the show, so she'll be much lighter when we see her.
Hasbro: "Little girls respond better to pink."
Ghost: "Shove it up your ass." - February 5, 2012 at 3:34 PM
- Seashell Sorbet said...
Princess Cadence actually looks pretty quality in comparison to the other toys. Maybe Hasbro is starting to put more effort into them. Hopefully we can get a show accurate Celestia soon.
That'd be funny if Cadence was created to replace the Pinklestia, so Hasbro could experiment with selling a white Celestia but still keep the pink princess obsessed demographic. I guess only time will tell if that's the case. :3 - February 5, 2012 at 3:36 PM
- Ion Storm said...
Cadence... She's probably a percussionist. A bodhran cutiemark maybe? That would be awesome! Have a jam session with her down at the pub!
Or maybe a metronome cutiemark. - February 5, 2012 at 3:37 PM
- Shadowluma said...
Is this character going to be in the show, or is she just a toy-release only?
- February 5, 2012 at 3:38 PM
- FireflyMuse said...
All praise to Princess Cadence, seeing her just makes me more excited for her episode even if it is just a one time thing
- February 5, 2012 at 3:41 PM
- archiveit said...
I was almost expecting her to be white, just to mess with us.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:43 PM
- Soras Teva Gee said...
Well the wings are an improvement over Pinklestia at least....
(Imma seriously hope this is all a Xanatos Gambit to get proper colored Celestia/Luna toys) - February 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM
- Salzvatik12 said...
They better turn Celestia white now, they can't have TWO pink princesses!
- February 5, 2012 at 3:48 PM
- BananaBoobBagel said...
She looks like a recolor of Fleur de Lis or however you spell it.
- February 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM
- FireflyMuse said...
are you trying to make the mistake of underestimating Hasbro's ability to pink?
That being said I REALLY hope they change Celestia's toy color to white - February 5, 2012 at 3:52 PM
- Sabrina C. Müller said...
I really hope now that they have an actual Pink princess, they will color Celestia white. But who am I to hope for that. :I
- February 5, 2012 at 3:54 PM
- Jaberwocky said...
If they made a Luna toy she'd end up being lavender :|
- February 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM
- snowfi6916 said...
They never make show accurate toys guys.
My money is still on her being Celestia's daughter. If not, then she would probably be an alicorn from the past or from a fairy tale wedding. - February 5, 2012 at 3:57 PM
- Bootsa said...
Oooh, me likey.
The episode had better not suck. She's too pretty for her episode to suck. - February 5, 2012 at 3:58 PM
- Ion Storm said...
For those who don't know, Princess Cadence was first identified in this pic from a Hasbro expo.
"You're invited to the Royal Wedding of Princess Cadence and Shining Armor." - February 5, 2012 at 3:59 PM
- Xellos Metallium said...
It's possible this may have been born out unsold and returned taking Celestia dolls. Hasbro has to have taken a hit from the amount of people who refused to buy a totally inaccurately coloured toy. Even on clearance.
- February 5, 2012 at 4:05 PM
- Beatfox said...
She will appear in the show at some point. Braeburn's VA tweeted a while back about recording for Shining Armor, her bridegroom. - February 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM
- Joe said...
Holy fuck, more recolors? Even with important characters? Jesus. Hasbro's really going for minimum cost, aren't they?
- February 5, 2012 at 4:09 PM
- Fadri said...
Now I'm confused. I thought her cutie mark was a sun covered by a cloud, but it seems to be unknown yet, according to the wiki...
Maybe I just saw it in a piece of fanart. :P - February 5, 2012 at 4:10 PM
- ramoberley said...
3 princesses now, eh? So celestia is sun, Luna is moon, cadence is earth? XD
- February 5, 2012 at 4:13 PM
- Rainbow Smash said...
Hasbro Exec 1: We need to do something! THe Princess Celestia toys aren't selling!
Hasbro Exec 2: I've got it! Let's make Princess Celestia white! Like in the show!
Hasbro Exec 1: Nahhh that's a stupid idea.
Hasbro Exec 2: But-
Hasbro Exec 1: I'VE GOT IT! Let's make a NEW princess toy! One that's already pink so they can't accuse us of being inaccurate!
Hasbro Exec 2: But there are only two Alicorns in the show, sir. Celestia and Luna.
Hasbro Exec 1: Hmmm, that IS a problem...
Hasbro Exec 2: Right, so how about we just-
Hasbro Exec 1: I KNOW! Tell the writers of the show to put her in somewhere, I'm sure it'll all work out.
Hasbro Exec 2: But sir, Celestia and Luna work so well on their own. They have an excellent balance representing the sun and moon, and carry an air of mystery that makes their mythology and characters all the more attractive and interesting. Won't adding a third princess intrude upon that balance, risk breaking the mystery, and just be an all around nonsensical addition because it would make no sense for everybody in the show to have just outright forgotten about a third godlike princess for 52 episodes? And wouldn't introducing a freaking GODDESS as just a throwaway character be an insult to our viewers' intelligence? And not only that, does this not suggest something along the lines of "unless you have wings and a horn you can never be a princess in Equestria," thereby basically taking a shot at young girls' self esteem? Does this not risk causing the show to jump the shark, sir?
Hasbro Exec 1: Ahhhh, who cares? Nobody watches this show but three year old girls anyway. Now, here's what the new princess is going to look like!
Hasbro Exec 2: ...sir, that color scheme is incredibly garish. It looks like a shoddy recoloring of Princess Celestia.
Hasbro Exec 1: I KNOW, RIGHT? This way we get to make money, AND we don't have to go through any stress trying to come up with a decent original design! We've got one already made for us!
Hasbro Exec 2: But sir-
Hasbro Exec 1: And you know what would be a good name for her? Cadence!
Hasbro Exec 2: ...Rhythm and song? Sir, doesn't that mess up the heavenly body motif we've had with Celestia and Luna? What about Astra? Or Gaia?
Hasbro Exec 1: You know, you're being incredibly counterproductive here with your Debbie Downer attitude, son. Why don't you go get me some coffee?
Hasbro Exec 2: But-
Hasbro Exec 1: Ahhhh, I'm a genius. Now! Time to cancel that line of Transformers Prime toys! - February 5, 2012 at 4:13 PM
- Unknown said...
I am not happy about this princess,I prbbly wouldn't even mind so much, bunch its just that 'Cadence' Is both a terrible princess and pony name! It doesn't fit in with the show at all!
- February 5, 2012 at 4:15 PM
- ramoberley said...
3 princesses now, eh? So celestia is sun, Luna is moon, cadence is earth? XD
- February 5, 2012 at 4:16 PM
- Princess Cadence said...
Well don't i just look pretty ^^ Now if they could just turn Celestia white... Otherwise she looks like my sister.. And afaik we are not... <_< >_>
- February 5, 2012 at 4:20 PM
- Calydonia said...
Ugh, I'm sorry, but that color combination is just hideous. I swear Hasbro has chosen the worst possible shades of pinks for their toys. Not to mention that there is just too much pink in general.
Not every little girl froths at the mouth at the sight of pink. My very first MLP (and I'm dating myself here) was MINTY, the green and white one. I thought she was the best looking of the original half dozen or so they created. I've noticed that the color green is conspicuously absent from any pony in MLP:FIM, even among background ponies. - February 5, 2012 at 4:23 PM
- eXtaticus said...
Twilight Sparkle's end-of-series transformation?
*shot* - February 5, 2012 at 4:34 PM
- A guy who likes ponies said...
@Seashell Sorbet
I personally think this may be the case. I'll admit I may be misinformed, but I've seen no evidence that she'll be in the show, and it would be a good excuse to finally get them to sell the proper colored Celestia, while still keeping a pink princess on the market. - February 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM
- Gamerlord said...
@A guy who likes ponies
Braeburn's VA has confirmed he is voicing Shining Armor, her groom. - February 5, 2012 at 4:45 PM
- Joe said...
@Seashell Sorbet
"More effort" ? It's a Pinklestia with different clothing. Less effort imo. - February 5, 2012 at 4:50 PM
- Orange Peel said...
It would be nice if she were a princess of another land, perhaps the ancient pony homeland before the founding of Equestria. This eliminates the "why have we never seen her before" problem.
- February 5, 2012 at 4:57 PM
- Seashell Sorbet said...
Considering they actually put effort into painting her accessories/shoes and bothered to give her a dress similar to the one on the package art as opposed to one of those golden organza travesties that they used for the older toys, I'd call this a step forward. A small step, but a step none the less. - February 5, 2012 at 5:01 PM
- A guy who likes ponies said...
That does prove Shining Armor is in the show, and I know that, but that doesn't prove that She's in it too. It's possible to assume that she may be in the show because he is, but there's no real hard evidence to support it, and until there is I shall remain a skeptical hippo... er... pony? - February 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM
- AnimeApple said...
the funny part is that Cadence is also the wrong color, she doesnt match the image on the box, so... yea
- February 5, 2012 at 5:04 PM
- Arcticwlf said...
Cadence and Shining Armor's wedding might also be the perfect opportunity for a new villain to make the scene. Great way to start a villainous reputation would be to crash a party like that.
- February 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM
- Altherix said...
@Arcticwlf Hopefully the villain kidnaps Cadence, locks her in a box, throws the box in the bottomless pit of despair.
One can dream right? - February 5, 2012 at 5:35 PM
- shadefox said...
Unless they can pull of something freaking amazing, I'm just going to completely ignore the existence of her.
That or my head canon is something killed her off.
"Oh, she got ambushed by a Griffin scouting party. Stung her up and used her for food supplies."
"Oh dear, does this mean war?"
"Wellllll... it wouldddd..... but no one gave a shit about the ditzy twit. We're sending a gift basket. Wine too." - February 5, 2012 at 5:44 PM
- FreedomChannelBA said...
She doesn't look that bad. She could be ALOT worse... I'd buy it.
- February 5, 2012 at 5:49 PM
- TacoBobMan said...
She even looks annoyed on the box. The drawn version looks like she's eying her figure, "That does not look like me!"
- February 5, 2012 at 6:06 PM
- Joe said...
I just noticed the box says "Princess CADANCE"...
apparently Hasbro can't spell. - February 5, 2012 at 6:14 PM
- mycutiemarkisagun said...
Because unlike all the characters we know and love, "Cadance" was obviously invented via cynical marketing department committee, as a way to cash-in on that wack-ass royal wedding, not to mention that ol' sexist patriarchal social pressure that A WOMAN *HAS* TO GET MARRIED OR ELSE.
Studio B will lessen the pain as much as possible but they'll still be sculpting with SHIT at the end of the day.
In Studio B We Trust. - February 5, 2012 at 6:32 PM
- mycutiemarkisagun said...
>Not every little girl froths at the mouth at the sight of pink.
Silence, Wo-Man. We know what your kind wants. PINK AND FRILLY ALL THE FEMALE THINGS!! - February 5, 2012 at 6:34 PM
- suburbanbanshee said...
Hey, maybe Cadence is like Benten, a goddess of all flowing things, like music and the wind and the sea. :)
- February 5, 2012 at 6:46 PM
- sledgehammer said...
I get to watch Hasbro half-ass their toys in hilarious ways AND watch bronies lose their marbles over it. The fun has been doubled!
- February 5, 2012 at 6:57 PM
- LCarlan said...
n. pl. ca·denc·es
1. Balanced, rhythmic flow, as of poetry or oratory.
2. The measure or beat of movement, as in dancing or marching.
Sounds fine for a pony name to me. - February 5, 2012 at 7:09 PM
- Charlotte said...
Ok,i think everyone is overreacting,because we have no idea about her character at ALL aside from toys and pictures and yet we are still saying "BECAUSE OF THIS THE SHOW WILL JUMP THE SHARK"seriously,best to wait until she appears in the show instead of jumping to conclusions.
- February 5, 2012 at 7:15 PM
- Alondro said...
@Charlotte She'll be the EVIL princess from the Negaverse! Or a Cyborg alien pony planning an invasion! Or a mutant turtle! :D
- February 5, 2012 at 7:20 PM
- Charlotte said...
Besides,DHX Media(Studio B)has dealt with exec meddling(Cheerilee,calling celestia and luna princesses instead of queens).
- February 5, 2012 at 7:42 PM
- Dusty the Royal Janitor said...
@Rainbow Smash
That was brilliant. XD
Hit the nail on the head with that one. I tip my hat to you, friend. - February 5, 2012 at 7:42 PM
- SketchyDee said...
Great, now make Celestia white *serious face*
And even Candence is light pink, does hasbro have some issue with making ponies white or light colored at all. We're lucky rarity wasnt made pink.
But at least pink matches Candence ^^ - February 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM
- Solzan Nemesis said...
.....Prince William and Princess Kate.
.....Shining Armor and Princess Cadence.
.....Wedding Castle.....
I see what they did there ^_^. I find this cool if you ask me. - February 5, 2012 at 7:58 PM
- SketchyDee said...
But all the color complaints aside
I really like her mane! - February 5, 2012 at 7:58 PM
- BronyHaterSlayer said...
I have a theory:
Cadence and Shining Armor are coming back to Equestria and they claim to be Equestria's rightful rulers, and so they might force Celestia and Luna to leave after gaining many of the ponies's trust. - February 5, 2012 at 8:06 PM
- Flyinpenguin117 said...
I don't get all the hate. We know nothing about her, and people are saying that it ruins the show (Translation: Their more than likely horribly based fanfic)and that it was shoehorned in by evil marketing executives, then somehow connecting to the pink Princess Celestia thing. I wonder if the same thing would be said if Cadence was a different color.
Anyways, my hope is that she is directly related to Luna and Celestia, but she is younger than them, and doesn't have any major power, but is an advisor or something, hence why we haven't seen her yet. - February 5, 2012 at 8:44 PM
- Kelleth said...
Maybe Cadence' cutie mark stands for the fact that she rules over all sounds in Equestria? That combined with being an bossy bride and the royal Equestrian voice would make her an awesome obstacle for the mane six and the other princesses xD
- February 5, 2012 at 9:15 PM
- Flyinpenguin117 said...
Anyone else catch this? http://clubpenguin.wikia.com/wiki/Cadence
I have an obsession with Princess Cadence, I'll admit. Thats probably why I hate haters as much as I do. I have her set as my avatar on the Battlelog. The only thing keeping me from doing the same here is the fact that I don't wanna change my current one. - February 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM
- Rick Neil said...
Uh, pardon my ignorance, but who exactly is "Princess Cadence"...?
- February 5, 2012 at 11:50 PM
- Starlight said...
@Travis Smith
Kind of doubting it. If you look at the Princess Celestia toys, she's white on the package even though the toy is pink. Cadence is pink on the package so I imagine she looks that way in the show. But you never know. - February 6, 2012 at 1:14 AM
- Starlight said...
Oooh, that toy is really pretty! I wonder if she'll appear in the show?
- February 6, 2012 at 1:15 AM
- Starlight said...
@Rick Neil
She's a pink Alicorn character that showed up along with a male unicorn (her love interest) named Shining Armor. No word yet to whether or not she'll appear in the show. Won't be surprised if she does, according to Lauren Faust, Hasbro would sometimes ask them to incorporate a character from the toy line into the show, and it seems like they'll want to hype up Cadence. - February 6, 2012 at 1:17 AM
- f1bd9fb4-50eb-11e1-9cc1-000bcdcb8a73 said...
I'm wondering if there will be a episode with some definitive information about the Royal Genealogy. Making Blue Blue a prince was bad enough(I'd have preferred he was still a Duke) but, where is Cadence from? Note: I'm not hating on her, It is just confusing for another Princess who has never been mentioned before to be introduced. I'm gonna assume that she is not as powerful as Celestia or Luna.
- February 6, 2012 at 10:56 AM
- Glowy Pie said...
Hasbro is so retarded. When are they gonna realize that it isn't about the toys anymore. It should be the show deciding what the toys are like instead of the toys deciding what the show's like.
- February 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM
- BlueNight said...
@Kelleth, cadence is when a chord progression changes or reinforces the mood of a piece of music. I wonder if the toy team noticed the irony when they made her; it sounds like Hasbro is changing the mood of the series, which made Rob leave.
I wonder of all the princes are unicorns and the princesses are alicorns, sorta like bees. (All the princes are layabout dunces, like drone bees, but marrying one would have turned Rarity into an alicorn.) - February 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM
- IkkouSoryu said...
Will people ever shut up about non-existent "balance" which Cadence supposedly upsets? It gets old you know. It was never stated in the show that two princesses were ONLY princesses.
Just give this girl justified place in the world and she's good to go.
But more importantly, WHERE THE FUCK IS CELESTIA-CENTERED EPISODE?! Honestly, Luna got one outta nowhere, but the important side-character(who has yet to have any good characterization) is denied single episode for almost two fucking seasons. Writers, get your shit straight. - February 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM
- archer1949 said...
People seem to put waaaaaay too much thought in this.
- February 6, 2012 at 1:08 PM
- vsbloom said...
actually i believe shining armour is just a unicorn. - February 6, 2012 at 9:31 PM
- Epesi said...
@Glowy Pie
Hasbro is a toy company. They make and sell toys. They own My Little Pony and can do whatever the hay they want with it. It is only by their good graces that the show we love exists -- without the toys, there'd be no show. I think it's pretty damned presumptuous to call Hasbro retarded for not changing their (evidently rather successful) business model to cater to the whims of an unexpected periphery demographic. In other words: no, Hasbro is not retarded; yes, it is about the toys; and what "it should be" is whatever Hasbro decides it should be, because it belongs to them.
If Hasbro were to make show-accurate toys for us, that'd be incredibly awesome of them, but it would only be the icing on the cake; the cake itself is pretty damn sweet to begin with. Be grateful for it. Enjoy the show, enjoy the fandom's creations, and be glad that Hasbro hasn't decided to stomp those creations into oblivion, because it is within their power and their rights to do so. - February 10, 2012 at 9:51 PM
- Epesi said...
>If Hasbro were to make show-accurate toys for us
And then it really happened. I have never been so happy to have my point rendered utterly moot. :D
Cake, meet icing. Icing, meet cake. Hasbro, meet my undying love. I think we're all gonna be great friends. - February 12, 2012 at 2:09 AM
- Blossom Mother said...
they should have a big version of princess luna too!
- April 19, 2012 at 4:10 AM
- Blossom Mother said...
they should have a big version of princess luna too!
- April 19, 2012 at 4:10 AM


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And in Novi, Assistant Novi Police Chief Jerrod Hart said the police department is partnering with the state and private consulting firms to hold two training sessions — not only for schools in Novi, Northfield and Walled Lake — but for corporations, hospitals and businesses on Tuesday Jan. 29.
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local teachers
As far as the Homeland Security and SWAT training to be provided to all schools, Homeland Security Manager Ted Quisenberry said it was provided to Oakland County employees at all campuses, hospitals and a couple of schools this past year.
The training does not include the use of guns by school employees, said Quisenberry, who proposed the countywide training to Oakland Schools after the Sandy Hook shootings. Continued...
Oakland Schools Superintendent Vickie Markavitch said she agreed to sponsor the training because, "School districts are focused on providing safe learning environments for our children.
"In fact, despite tragedies, such as at Sandy Hook Elementary, schools are among the safest places for our children," Markavitch said. "That being said, there is always room for improvement, and we are very fortunate to have access to training from the experts from Oakland County's Homeland Security and the Sheriff's department."
One of the county's teachers who signed up for the training is Amy McKeever, a Pontiac High School teacher, who is in her second year as president of the Pontiac Education Association.
"I think it is important to know how to address the situation if you ever come across it," McKeever said. "It is my responsibility to make sure my students are safe. So any tools I can use, I will; and any class that will help, I will sign up for."
Law enforcement at community colleges and universities also want to protect their students and faculty.
Take practice
drills seriously
Ken Van Sparrentak teaches OCC's course on school safety and homeland security.
"I do believe it would be great benefit to them (school teachers, administrators and staff) to take the course," he said.
It is important to "be aware of what the threats are. Fifty years ago, it was fires. We started fire drills. We haven't had a fire death in a school for over three decades. Continued...
"How do we meet the challenge of today? Part of it is security of the building; taking the lock-down drills seriously. There is a tendency to say 'they are never at an opportune time, there is a test, there is inclement weather.' We need to take the drills seriously," Van Sparrentak said.
Also important is creating each school's plan individually with the first responders in that community, doing a threat assessment, having a strategy in place and each person knowing what their role is, he said.
"There has to be a policy of who can come into the building and what are the points of access.
"This is a wake-up call for the country. We can't just have all the doors open. But we can't turn schools into mini prisons and have children feel safe."
Having an armed person at every building is not realistic, Van Sparrentak said, "If we are already eliminating resource officers at high schools and junior highs and this is an isolated incident."
Deborah Bayer, dean of the Division of Public Service and Combined Regional Emergency Services Training, said she would like to see requirements changed so teachers could take the school safety-homeland security course as part of their required credit hours.
OCC and OU train
to protect students
At OU, the police department provides a training program, "Surviving an Active Shooting Incident," anytime requested for the 1,500-acre campus that straddles Auburn Hills and Rochester Hills, Gordon said.
"The information is presented in person by a command officer from the (Oakland University Police Department) and includes strategies to survive an active shooting incident should attendees ever find themselves involved in such a situation," the police captain said. Continued...
At OCC, McCauley said he has been providing "Active Shooter and Violence; Deterrence, Preparation and Response training" to respond to violence and active shooters since 2009.
Training is provided to OCC police officers and drills are done at least twice a year.
In the OCC police department, "We have the equipment, training, and we do exercises several times with (paint bullet simulations).
"We have a building on one of the campuses that is not totally being used and do this every year," McCauley said.
Faculty members are provided with a video to show to students that demonstrates what to do in the event of an active shooter emergency. A student guide also is available online. And all new employees are provided with an orientation to the emergency plan, McCauley said.
"First, evacuate if you are able to. There might be situations where you are not able to because of the proximity of shooter, so secure shelter.
"Close the door, lock the door, pull the shades and overturn tables. It applies to classroom and offices.
"The absolute last thing you do — in video and every training — is protect yourself," by engaging the attacker, McCauley said.
In July, a so-called "table top" practice was carried out with all of the emergency response teams on all campuses reacting to an active shooter situation.
To learn more about the Oakland Community College plan and student guide, visit http://www.oaklandcc.edu/PublicSafety/EP.aspx.
Contact staff writer Diana Dillaber Murray at 248-745-4638 or email diana.dillaber@oakpress, or Twitter @DDillybar.
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Detroit Pistons vs Portland Trailblazers Sunday February 13 6:00 pm Local TV: FS Detroit Nat'l TV: Radio: WWJ 950 AM Chat is open!!!! http://www.pistonsforum.com/playoff-chat/
Well folks this is it! We're 5 games out of the playoffs going into this game, we need to win the next 3 (Port, Atl and Indy) to even have a shot at the playoffs, this upcoming week is do-or-die in terms of making the playoffs.
Wouldn't be surprised to see a 30+ point performance from Aldridge tonight. Don't think this team is capable of slowing him down.
Bill, I happen to know that you are secretly hoping for Aldridge to explode, due to a conflicting interest. ;)
Very observant of you (for a change), Darth. It is no secret. My fantasy team needs to wake up fast or I will end up during the postseason where you normally like to hang out (the consolation bracket).
Poor decision at the end forcing up a 3-pointer with lots of time on the clock. It was funny to hear the crowd boo when Stuckey checked in for Bynum with a minute left (even though it was probably a good defense-for-offense substitution). CV shooting an air ball and throwing the ball away didn't help any either.
I don't really enjoy watching a game when the opponent has a guy who scores 36 points on 17 shots. It makes the end really predictable. Every time we scored and got all excited, we ended up having to bear-hug Aldridge at the other end. And he's almost an 80% FT shooter. It's really obvious that the Pistons' problem is a poor allocation of resources. Our talent is just way too spread out. It's wasteful and redundant because we can only put 5 guys on the court at one time. If Kuester's directive from the top of the house was to tank, how would he do it? The tank lineup is just as effective as the starting lineup. By the way, Stuckey's laughing in the final minute on the bench didn't come off well.
As always, I got to disagree with you. All Kuester did by that substitution was throw off Wilcox at the free throw line.
Taking over? He did his bit, I will give him that. And then what did he do - repeatedly take it an awaiting Portland team and got nothing. His magic tricks had been spent - it was time to put in the starters around the 5 minute mark - unpopular or not. No way I will blame this on Bynum though, its on Kuester, as a coach, to see what is going on in a game and adjust to the reality of the game, not some fantasy in his mind.
I don't understand at least getting T-Mac and Prince back in there late in the 4th. BG was heating up but it was all the Will Bynum show. Its great when he sparks the offense but you also have to get the ball in the hot hand. Dumb shots and dumb plays to close out that game. And no one getting back to check Aldridge.
I didn't notice that. I did notice his frustration with Kuester for subbing him in for Bynum in that last minute though.
The substitution caused the missed free throw? Perhaps Wilcox being a poor free throw shooter (54% over the last 3 seasons) had something to do with it?


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May 25, 2013: The first wave of acts confirmed to play the Belladrum festival's GoNorth Seedlings Stage on August 2-3 has been announced – Cleavers, Prides, Roman Nose, Blood Relatives, Red Ronson, Ranald, Dylan Tierney, Crystal Seagulls, Three Blind Wolves, Garden Of Elks, The Oxides, Fat Goth, St Max And The Fanatics, Fake Major, State Of Flux, Bear Arms, Little Fire and Lionel.
Sarah Hayes' debut EP, Mainspring, is streaming on Bandcamp ahead of its release on May 28. She has Glasgow gigs scheduled for The Old Hairdressers on May 29 and The Wee Chill festival at SWG3 on June 29.
Boards Of Canada have unveiled new song Reach For The Dead, taken from forthcoming album Tomorrow's Harvest, out on June 10.
May 24, 2013: The line-up for King Tut's Summer Nights, which runs in the Glasgow venue from July 15 to August 1, has been revealed. The headliners are The Recovery!, Sunshine Social, TeKlo, Alarm Bells, Taffy, Sienna, So Many Animal Calls, Michael Cassidy, The OK Social Club, SOS, Departures, Fake Major, Prides, Waiting For Go and Arches. Other acts worth checking out include Cherri Fosphate, The Clock, The Youth And Young, Campfires In Winter, Kevin Harper, Discopolis and Father Sculptor. There's also a Pop Cop DJ set on July 25.
Quickbeam song Grace is available for free download – it's taken from the band's self-titled debut album, out on June 3.
Giant Fang has unveiled a video for Aqualung.
May 23, 2013: A Music Open Day is being held at Aberdeen's Lemon Tree on May 26 with a programme that includes three music industry panels, a soundcheck workshop and live music from Revere, Uniform, Leanne Smith and Marionettes. Free tickets to the evening show will be available to anyone who attends the free seminars during the day.
The Wickerman Festival has added Admiral Fallow, Chic ft Nile Rodgers, Dreadzone, Waylayers and Greg Wilson to its line-up on July 26-27.
Algernon Doll track Anti-them is available for free download – it's taken from second album Citalo-pop, due for release on June 10.
May 22, 2013: The Basement Coffee House in Ayr has been shortlisted by NME as Scotland's representative in a public vote to find the best small venue in Britain. The 80-capacity venue opened eight months ago.
Tomorrow's second instalment of the Dewar House Experimental Batch series sees Edinburgh's Caves host free live music from Kid Canaveral, The Last Battle and Adam Ross (Randolph's Leap). There will be 550 tickets available on the door on a first come, first served basis.
May 21, 2013: Camera Obscura song Fifth In Line To The Throne is available for free download in exchange for an email address. It's taken from the band's fifth album Desire Lines, out on June 3, and pre-ordering it will get you another track, Do It Again.
Book Group have released their debut EP, Homeward Sound.
Sparrow And The Workshop's third album Murderopolis, out on May 27, is streaming in full via DIY - one of the songs, The Faster You Spin, is also available for free download.
May 20, 2013: Garden Of Elks' debut EP, Extended Play, is available to buy and stream.
The Clock have a video for their excellent song Everything's Eventual, which is released on May 28. They have Glasgow gigs lined up at Broadcast on June 1 and Roxy 171 on June 20.
May 18, 2013: The 16-strong T Break line-up for T in the Park on July 12-14 has been unveiled - Arches, Blindfolds, DARC, Fake Major, Hector Bizerk, Honeyblood, Machines In Heaven, Michael Cassidy, Poor Things, Pronto Mama, Seams, Sunshine Social, The Merrylees, The Velveteen Saints, Vasa, Waiting For Go.
Anna Sweeney has announced she is taking a full break from music and has cancelled her scheduled appearance at Wickerman in July as she relocates to Reading for work in June. Another musician swapping Scotland for England is Plum, who is moving to Brighton in July.
May 17, 2013: The stage times have been released for the 35 acts playing Stag & Dagger across seven Glasgow venues on May 18.
Franz Ferdinand's fourth album Right Thoughts, Right Words, Right Action will be released on August 26 – check out this brief trailer.
Frightened Rabbit recorded a cover of Best Coast's The Only Place for Australian radio show Triple J. The band release their Late March, Death March EP on June 2.
The Mouse That Ate The Cat song When I Wake Up is available for free in exchange for your email address.
The title track of Adam Stafford's forthcoming second album Imaginary Walls Collapse is streaming here.
May 16, 2013: The Discopolis remix of Bwani Junction single Civil War is available to download for free from SoundCloud.
Born To Be Wide's next seminar at Edinburgh's Electric Circus on May 30 is on the topic of goNORTH, with a panel featuring broadcaster Vic Galloway, goNORTH duo Amanda Millen and Alex Smith and Chasing Owls frontman Ben Sunderland explaining how musicians and delegates can get the most out of the annual Inverness convention. Tickets are free.
AC/DC have backed a campaign to erect a bronze statue of their former frontman Bon Scott in his hometown of Kirriemuir in Angus. Community music group DD8 Music hope to raise £50,000 via Kickstarter by June 5.
Kite And The Crane's debut EP, Found In The End, is out on Bandcamp.
May 15, 2013: Biffy Clyro have a video for their new single Opposite.
The View are playing a one-off show at Glasgow's King Tut's on June 12 for the Sunday Mail Centenary Fund.
Adam Stafford is launching his second album Imaginary Walls Collapse with a gig at Glasgow's Glad Cafe on July 5 with support from Siobhan Wilson and Robbie Lesiuk.
May 14, 2013: The Wee Chill will mark its 10th anniversary with a two-stage bill at Glasgow's SWG3 on June 29 for the West End Festival. The line-up features Malcolm Middleton, James Yorkston with Sparrow & The Workshop (collaborative debut), Aidan Moffat (spoken word), Three Blind Wolves, Roddy Hart & The Lonesome Fire, Miaoux Miaoux, Fake Major.
Tommy Perman, who recently left FOUND, has unveiled his new solo project ComputerScheisse – check out These Beautiful Minds, the title track of his debut EP, out on July 15 through Phuturelabs.
RockNess have announced more acts for the festival on June 7-9 including Fenech-Soler, Fatherson, Public Service Broadcasting, The Boy Who Trapped The Sun, Niteworks and Jemma Tweedie.
Too Many Fireworks Records will donate all profits from sales of Variations Of Chopin, an album of contemporary interpretations of the composer's music, to the fundraising campaign for drummer Robbie Cooper, whose cancer fight was documented on The Pop Cop.
May 13, 2013: New releases out now include Young Aviators' debut album Self Help, Eagleowl's debut album This Silent Year, and Cherri Fosphate's new Burning Youth EP.
May 10, 2013: The live schedule for goNORTH in Inverness on June 5-6 has been unveiled – it includes a Scottish Bloggers Showcase hosted by The Pop Cop, Peenko and Song, by Toad featuring a four-band bill of Garden Of Elks, Friends In America, The Yawns and Flutes.
May 9, 2013: The documentary Hunting For Remoteness details The Magnetic North's visit to Orkney – where frontman Erland Cooper is from – for the making of their debut album. It will be released on June 24 alongside a reissue of that record, Orkney: Symphony Of The Magnetic North. You can watch the trailer here.
Alphabetical Order Orchestra are streaming their first song, The Architect. The band is made up of My Latest Novel members Chris Deveney, Gary Deveney and Ryan King.
A Band Called Quinn have launched a crowdfunding campaign to support performances of their multimedia show Biding Time (remix) at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in August.
May 8, 2013: Three Blind Wolves have released their new album, Sing Hallelujah For The Old Machine.
May 7, 2013: Adam Stafford's new single Please is streaming online – it's taken from his second album Imaginary Walls Collapse, out in July.
May 6, 2013: The T in the Park Roadshow is bringing free live music to Scottish towns this month – it stops at Glasgow today for The View at Kelvingrove Park (1pm) and Buchanan Street (3.30pm); Edinburgh on May 10 for Vigo Thieves at Queen Margaret University's Student Union (noon), Dundee on May 11 for The LaFontaines at Overgate Centre (noon); Aberdeen on May 12 for Sienna at Aberdeen University (noon); and Ayr on May 18 for The Redettes at Ayr Railway Station (noon).
Fake Major have a video for Fiction, a song on their Have Plenty Of Fun EP. Fellow Comets & Cartwheels artist Finn LeMarinel has a new video for Garden, taken from his debut album Violence.
Capitals have released a sampler of all the tracks on their debut album A National Service, out on June 3.
May 3, 2013: Episode 11 of BBC ALBA's Rapal music TV programme is on iPlayer and features Cara Mitchell, Brown Bear & The Bandits, Three Blind Wolves and Anna Sweeney.
Steve Mason has accused Samsung of plagiarising the video for The Beta Band's 2004 single Assessment for their new television advert. Both show historical figures running down a beach and helicopters circling overhead.
May 2, 2013: Young Aviators' debut album Self Help is streaming on Electric Honey's SoundCloud ahead of its release on May 13.
May 1, 2013: Travis have a video for Where You Stand, the first single and title track of the band's seventh album, out on August 19.
Fake Major's debut EP, Have Plenty Of Fun, is available for download.
My Latest Novel have gone on hiatus, with three of the members forming Alphabetical Order Orchestra - look out for music from them next week.
Kobi Onyame has a video for his new single The Real Part 2.
Trapped In Kansas have unveiled new song Collapse Rebuild.
Rob St John's new AA single Charcoal Black And The Bonny Grey/Shallow Brown is out now.
April 30, 2013: Boards Of Canada will release Tomorrow's Harvest, their first new album in eight years, on June 10.
Quickbeam song Immersed is available to download for free from DIY – you can also listen to snippets from every track of the band's self-titled debut album, out on June 3.
Discopolis have unveiled the video for their new song Falling (Committed To Sparkle Motion), out on May 5.
April 29, 2013: The SAY Award will stream each of the 20 longlisted albums for 24 hours through their app, starting today with Miaoux Miaoux's Light Of The North. You can read The Pop Cop's feature here.
Panda Su's new song MAPS is available to buy now on Amazon, while Bwani Junction's new single Civil War is on iTunes.
The Boy Who Trapped The Sun has a video for new song California ahead of his May tour in Scotland.
The Pastels have a video for Check My Heart, taken from their forthcoming new album Slow Summits, out on May 27.
Frank Turner covered Frightened Rabbit's The Modern Leper for Jim Gellatly's In:Demand Uncut session.
April 27, 2013: Episode 10 of BBC ALBA's Rapal music TV programme is on iPlayer and features two fantastic unreleased songs by Beerjacket as well as The Holy Ghosts, The Merrylees and Ray McCartney.
Travis, Johnny Marr, Hurts, James Skelly, Jack Savoretti, Willy Mason, Foy Vance, Steve Mason, Milo Greene and DIIV have been added to the T in the Park line-up, which has now been separated into day-by-day splits.
Edinburgh venue The Forest Cafe, which has been banned from hosting live music due to council restrictions, are looking for acts to play their new monthly event, the Forest Big Night Out at Old St Paul's, which launches on May 23. Email firstname.lastname@example.com for details.
April 26, 2013: The Burns an' a' that! Festival will feature live music as part of Weekend in the Park at Ayr's Belleisle Park on May 25-26. Rose Parade, Little Fire, Pronto Mama and The Bluebells are among the free acts; Justin Currie + Rachel Sermanni play a ticketed gig on May 26.
Other newly-announced concerts on sale include Lana Del Rey + Kassidy at Glasgow's SECC on May 16 (replacing her two dates at the Academy on May 15/16) Bombay Bicycle Club at Edinburgh's Liquid Room on June 7, Belle & Sebastian at Inverness' Ironworks on July 1, We Are Scientists at Glasgow's Oran Mor on July 29, Kid Canaveral + Ballboy at Edinburgh's Liquid Room on August 10.
Kid Canaveral + The Last Battle + Adam Ross (Randolph's Leap) also play a free show at Edinburgh's Caves on May 23 with 300 tickets on the door on a first come, first served basis as part of a Dewar's event.
April 25, 2013: Seasick Steve, The Pigeon Detectives, Julie Fowlis, Meursault, Washington Irving, PAWS and The LaFontaines have been added to the Belladrum Festival line-up on August 2-3.
Washington Irving have released Palomides Volume 1, the first half of their debut album.
The View are streaming Kill Kyle, one of two new songs on their compilation album Seven Year Setlist, out on June 17.
April 24, 2013: The showcase list of artists picked to play goNORTH in Inverness on June 5-6 has been announced. For the third consecutive year there will be a bloggers' showcase stage hosted by The Pop Cop, Peenko and Song, by Toad. More details to follow soon.
Kilmarnock's Dirty Weekender will feature 45 acts over three venues on May 31 to June 2 including Fridge Magnets, Bwani Junction, The Ok Social Club, Ross Leighton (Fatherson) and Chris Helme.
Poor Things' new single Morgan is free to download – it's taken from their Hurricane Poor Things EP, out on June 10.
Similarly, Cherri Fosphate are giving away Wool from their Burning Youth EP, out on May 11.
April 23, 2013: Glasvegas will play Aberdeen's Garage on June 27, Edinburgh's Liquid Room on June 28 and Glasgow's ABC on June 29.
Reverieme's second album With Up So Floating is out now.
Roddy Hart & The Lonesome Fire have announced they will release their self-titled new album through Middle Of Nowhere Records in July.
Herculean have a video for Red Weather, taken from The Falling Thunder EP, out on June 7.
April 22, 2013: Stag & Dagger have added Phosphorescent, Rachel Sermanni, Randolph's Leap, French Wives, Fake Major, Prides, Chris Devotion & The Expectations and Donald Macdonald & The Islands to the Glasgow festival's line-up on May 18.
Episode 9 of BBC ALBA's Rapal music TV programme is on iPlayer and features Brown Bear & The Bandits, Cara Mitchell, The Open Day Rotation and John Wean.
Texas have unveiled a video for The Conversation, the title track from their first album in eight years, out on May 20.
Bronagh & The Boys have released their debut single Green, taken from A Young Heart EP, out on May 19.
April 19, 2013: Kassidy's Barrie-James O'Neill and his girlfriend Lana Del Rey have recorded a cover of Summer Wine (made famous by Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazlewood), backed with a video featuring handheld footage of the pair in Los Angeles.
My Bloody Valentine, Trash Talk, Fidlar and The VirginMarys have been added to the T in the Park line-up.
April 18, 2013: Pre-sale tickets are available for Regina Spektor at Glasgow's Academy on August 20 and Kings Of Leon at the ciry's Bellahouston Park on August 15, the latter being part of the Glasgow Summer Sessions.
The Mirror Trap have unveiled a video for Westminster Ghost Story, the first track to be taken from their second album Stay Young, due out this autumn.
April 17, 2013: Midnight Lion have changed their name to Prides and expanded to a trio with the addition of Kitty The Lion's Callum Wiseman on guitar and vocals. To coincide with the announcement, they have unveiled wonderfully addictive new song Out Of The Blue.
T in the Park have added Local Natives, Lucy Rose, Swim Deep, Theme Park, Lewis Watson and Sons & Lovers to the festival on July 12-14.
April 16, 2013: Doune The Rabbit Hole have announced that this year's festival will take place at the new location of Cardross Estate at Port of Menteith in Stirlingshire on August 22-25. The line-up features Clinic, Meursault, Rachel Sermanni, Alasdair Roberts, Washington Irving, The Pastels, PAWS, Beerjacket, Rick Redbeard, We Are The Physics, Randolph's Leap, Siobhan Wilson, Panda Su, Shambles Miller, Jo Mango and TeenCanteen. See here for full day-by-day splits.
April 15, 2013: James and Twin Atlantic will headline the Belladrum Tartan Heart Festival on August 2-3. Other acts on the bill include Admiral Fallow, Fatherson, Rick Redbeard, Noisettes, The Horrors and King Charles.
April 13, 2013: Edinburgh's live music scene has suffered yet another setback with Forest Cafe having its live music licence reviewed, causing the immediate postponement of gigs there, starting with the Solas Showcase scheduled for today.
Newsnight Scotland featured a report on the music industry on April 10, prompted by the Wide Days convention in Edinburgh. Watch the segment on BBC iPlayer, with contributions from Stanley Odd's Dave Hook, Plum's Shona Maguire, Chemikal Underground's Stewart Henderson, Wide Days organiser Olaf Furniss and journalist Nicola Meighan. The interviews were conducted by Galleries drummer Andrew Black.
April 12, 2013: Episode 8 of BBC ALBA's Rapal music TV programme is on iPlayer and features Niteworks, The Holy Ghosts, Miaoux Miaoux and The Merrylees.
Eagleowl have unveiled Not Over, the first offering from debut album This Silent Year, which will come out through Fence Records on May 13.
Dear Lara, aka David Lan, has released his debut EP Plans as a free download.
April 11, 2013: Capitals' debut album A National Service will come out on June 3, with those who pre-order it (from just £5) getting an immediate download of any of the record's 11 tracks, one of which is Reliever.
The View will release singles compilation Seven Year Setlist on June 17 – the album features two new songs, Dirty Magazine and Kill Kyle.
Several Scottish acts have posted tracks from forthcoming new albums – check out Washington Irving – Wandering Wits, United Fruit – Taste I Can't Give Up and Hector Bizerk – Orchestrated Madness.
April 10, 2013: Promoters Cry Parrot will host their 6th Birthday Party at Glasgow's Glue Factory on April 26 with a gig featuring Sacred Paws, Hector Bizerk, Tut Vu Vu, Ultimate Thrush, Ela Orleans and Sad City.
Three Blind Wolves are previewing Slow Summer Deer, taken from their Sing Hallelujah For The Old Machine album, released on May 6.
Where We Lay Our Heads single Keanu Leaves is out now.
Great Cop are giving away new song Stop Hiding as a free download.
April 9, 2013: Mogwai guitarist John Cummings uploaded a photo of himself at Glasgow's George Square yesterday where more than 300 people gathered, inspired by his band's 2011 song George Square Thatcher Death Party.
Hi-Arts, which promotes arts in the Highlands and Islands, has issued notices of redundancies to all 10 of its staff in the wake of funding cuts.
April 8, 2013: Fridge Magnets will play a 'silent gig' at a secret outdoor location in Glasgow on May 15 (6pm) – tickets can be won through organisers Deezer. The band will perform inside a mobile perspex box with the 300-capacity audience able to hear them through headphones.
Kassidy have released new mini-album People Like Me.
April 7, 2013: Song Of Return have launched their Singles Club project on Bandcamp through which they'll be selling unreleased tracks. Month 1 contains Torn Between The Tides (see video) and Enough.
Cairn String Quartet, who were profiled on The Pop Cop in March, have unveiled their orchestral cover of Kid Canaveral's Low Winter Sun.
Travis have made new song Another Guy available to download for free through their website. It also has a video.
April 6, 2013: The following 16 HMV and Fopp stores in Scotland will remain open following Hilco's takeover – HMV: Aberdeen, Ayr, Dundee, East Kilbride, Edinburgh Fort Kinnaird, Edinburgh Ocean Terminal, Edinburgh Princes St, Glasgow Argyle St, Glasgow Buchanan St, Glasgow Fort, Inverness, Livingston, Stirling; Fopp: Edinburgh; Glasgow Union St; Glasgow Byres Rd.
Bwani Junction have a video for new single Civil War, out on April 29.
Rachel Sermanni and Emma's Imagination are among the acts playing the Kintyre Songwriters Festival in Campbeltown on May 24-26.
Quickbeam will launch their debut album with a gig at the disused Govanhill Baths in Glasgow on May 31. They will be supported by Fake Major whose debut Have Plenty Of Fun EP comes out on May 1.
April 5, 2013: Spotify director Mark Williamson will give the keynote speech at next week's Wide Days event in Edinburgh as part of a session on the business of streaming. The full running order is here.
Episode 7 of BBC ALBA's Rapal music TV programme is on iPlayer and features Anna Sweeney, Cara Mitchell, Discopolis and Paul McGranaghan.
Dot JR has uploaded new song Waterfalls to SoundCloud.
April 4, 2013: The Tiree Music Festival will take place in An Talla on July 20-21 with a bill that includes Roddy Hart & The Lonesome Fire, Washington Irving, The Youth And Young and Brown Bear & The Bandits.
Galleries' fantastic new single Midnight Rush is out now.
Casual Sex have made a video for their debut single Stroh 80. They play Glasgow's Nice 'n' Sleazy on April 5 and Oran Mor on April 7.
April 3, 2013: Comlongon Rocks have added a third day of live music to its line-up at Comlongon Castle in Dumfries & Galloway on May 17-19. The festival's line-up features Three Blind Wolves, Emma's Imagination, The OK Social Club and Saint Max.
Chem 19 are offering three days of free recording time to five Scottish acts through their Creative Scotland Demo Fund. To apply, musicians (under-25s only) should email a link to some demos and a bio to email@example.com with the subject Chem19 Demo Fund Enquiry before April 26. Chosen acts will also take part in a live showcase.
Siobhan Wilson + Julia And The Doogans + Jo Mango will play Glasgow's Roxy 171 on June 26 as part of the Scottish Fiction Presents: Aye Tunes vs Peenko night at the West End Festival.
April 2, 2013: Acts confirmed for The Insider Festival in Aviemore on June 21-23 include Rachel Sermanni, Karine Polwart, Hector Bizerk, Urstan, David Thomas Broughton, Miaoux Miaoux, Pete Roe, Jonnie Common, Adam Holmes And The Embers and Sparrow And The Workshop.
Up-and-coming acts can apply to play the Hebridean Celtic Festival in Stornoway on July 17-20 through their One Step Further competition which is open to musicians aged 18-25. To enter, artists need to email firstname.lastname@example.com with the subject HebCelt New Talent Submissions and include links to three songs, a biog and high-res photo. Closing date is April 12.
April 1, 2013: Quickbeam's self-titled debut album will be released through Comets & Cartwheels on June 3 – check out the video for lead track Immersed which will be available as a free download on April 29.
We Were Promised Jetpacks will headline the second night of the three-day Solas Festival in Perthshire on June 22.
Minor Delilah will be giving away copies of their new EP, Only Dust Can Hear You, to anyone who attends their launch gig at Glasgow's Classic Grand on May 3.
Live review: Arcade Fire @ SECC, Glasgow
"Stand up, please stand up," are the first words ARCADE FIRE frontman Win Butler utters into the microphone to those with the misfortune of having seated tickets, and the majority of those at the back of the venue are more than happy to comply.
I have to admit my expectation levels for this gig were fairly low given how underwhelming their previous show at the SECC was three years ago and how dull I find their latest album The Suburbs.
Matters aren't helped when they begin with two songs from that record, Ready To Start and Month Of May, but at least there is the extrovert behaviour from the band's numerous members to provide entertainment, be it the sight of Sarah Neufeld swapping her usual stringed instrument for what appears to be a couple of table-tennis bats or William Butler skipping from one side of the stage to the other while skelping a tom-tom drum.
With it being their last gig of the tour Win is keen to bow out all guns blazing. "Let's have a gentlemen's agreement," he tells the crowd. "We're gonna leave it all on stage tonight. You need to meet us halfway, right?" The familiar opening jangle of Keep The Car Running ensure the audience's response is in the affirmative, before Neighborhood #2 (Laïka) and No Cars Go raise the decibels to yet greater heights.
However, the set dips with Rococo, My Body Is A Cage and The Suburbs with its cringingly awful honky-tonk piano, which belongs on a Badly Drawn Boy b-side. In fact, so unmoved were a bunch of irritating 40-somethings standing next to me that they deemed it as good a moment as any to take group photos of their big night out at the SECC. Is this really what one of the most powerful live bands on the planet have been reduced to?
Mercifully, Arcade Fire move up a gear. The Canadians unleash the full force of Neighborhood #1 (Tunnels), while Win makes a brief visit to the front barrier for We Used To Wait. He then gives an oddly half-assed vocal performance of Neighborhood #3 (Power Out) before a bombastic Rebellion (Lies) ends with the band encouraging the crowd to join in some a cappella harmonising.
The encore begins with Intervention which is as glorious as it is moving. Win then introduces the last song with an anecdote about one of the first gigs they ever played: "There were five people there – and three of them were my parents. My dad is a scientist so he knows nothing about music but he said he liked the one that sounded like a Scottish war song." Cue their hands-aloft-anthem Wake Up which, of course, soon turns the room into a joyous mush of boogying Glaswegians.
The set may have been on the brief side, coming in at just 90 minutes, but Arcade Fire sure know how to make an exit.
Arcade Fire – Poupée De Cire, Poupée De Son (Serge Gainsbourg cover)
10 Responses to "Live review: Arcade Fire @ SECC, Glasgow"
Stu Says:
Cringingly awful honky tonk piano? Were you listening to the same song?? Rococo is also immense. Tsk.
G Says:
Terrible review. Comparing them to Badly Drawn Boy is a poor attempt to be controversial. Rococo is a glorious tune
Andy Says:
Why did you bother going? I was evidently watching Arcade Fire in some parallel dimension SECC on Sunday evening. 'My Body('Boy'!?) is a Cage' was one of the highlights for me, and evidently a large portion of the audience, in the more reflective middle section of a nicely weighted more active set. I will certainly go to see them again. Brief set at 90 minutes? Better a good 90 minutes than a couple of hours of the type of mediocrity served up by many acts appearing at this venue
Anonymous Says:
agree with above comments was this guy at the same concert, read the hearld's review, they know music!!
thepopcop Says:
Excuse the typo – amended the post to say "Body". I don't think my review is as negative as the comments seem to suggest – like I said, their new album does very little for me (with the exception of We Used To Wait) and hearing those songs played live didn't really change my opinion about that.
Gordon Hunter Says:
This is a truly dreadful, attention seeking, review.
This gig was fantastic from start to finish
K Says:
Got to agree with you. Saw them at the O2 in London earlier in the month and wasn't very impressed. The old stuff is great, but much of the new material isn't strong enough. Notably the band themselves seem to enjoy playing the "Funeral" material far more, too.
thepopcop Says:
Phew, thought it was me vs the world there. Your live review is much better than mine, K, good work!
John D. Says:
I'll back you up as well – the new album just isn't in the same league as the first 2. Somebody who had enevr heard any of their music would attend a gig and easily pick out the flat new material (with the exception perhaps of The Sprawl).
When I first heard the Suburbs the first thing I thougth of was "about a boy"! I'm glad it's not just me who thought that!
Overall still a superb gig, but it's definitely the back catalogue carrying the show.
jc Says:
I think John D nails it about the band right now. And its one that applies also to Belle & Sebastian.
The gigs are great, but the older material are what makes them special.