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Power Fully Restored to NJ by Sunday, Christie Says
Governor also praises National Guard at press conference in Somerset.
Gov. Chris Christie praised the National Guard's work in New Jersey during the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, and reportedly said he expects all power to be restored to the state by early Sunday.
Christie spoke at a press conference on Thursday, flanked by members of the National Guard at an armory in Somerset.
"I wanted to come here and thank these men and women as an example of the over 2,200 National Guardsmen I ordered activated in the prelude to Hurricane Sandy," Christie said. "They have done an extraordinary job."
Christie addressed a number of issues still plaguing the state, including power outages.
Christie said as of Thursday morning there were 390,746 customers without power in the state, an increase of about 19,000 from Wednesday. He said some of that was due to new outages caused by winter storm Athena.
"Good news is we have not seen the kind of damage we saw with Hurricane Sandy and we are confident that we will be able to move forward in our recovery efforts," Christie said.
The governor also said he expects the state to have its power fully restored by early Sunday, according to a report by the Associated Press.
Christie gave numbers on customer outages for each power company. He said as of Thursday morning, the percentage of customers out were: PSE&G, 95 percent; JCP&L, 75 percent; Atlantic City Electric, 95 percent (down from 100 due to Athena); Orange & Rockland, 92 percent.
Christie also said the gas situation in the state has improved over the past few days, thanks in part to the National Guard's distribution efforts and the odd-even system. He said that he will reevaluate that system over the weekend, and decide if it needs to continue next week.
Christie said 77 percent of the schools and 80 percent of the districts in the state were operating on Thursday. He said two days before that percentage was in the 40s.
There has been some confusion about FEMA aid, according to Christie, who urged residents to call and register with the agency.
"I had people who I spoke to last night who said 'FEMA hasn't been to my house. It's outrageous,'" he said. "I said 'when did you register?' and they said 'I have to register?' Yes, you have to register first or they don't know where you live. They aren't going to every house."
Residents of the barrier islands may be able to visit their homes again very soon. Christe said from Berkeley to Brick, controlled visitation would take place no later than Saturday. He said that Friday had been the plan originally, but that change due to the impact of the latest storm.
2:57 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Power by Sunday.....I wont hold my breath! Not one body with a pulse in 11 days, are they magically going to appear between now and Sunday and have 3 poles replaced and all the wires back up? More lies from Trenton......
Marla Sherman
10:40 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
It's possible. It took pse&g 5 hours to replace 3 poles on my street and rewire. Youll know youre getting close when someone comes to mark the street for gas and sewer so pse&g don't accidentally hit those lines. Also, electric is only the top 4 wires. We're still waiting for cable to do their rewiring.
Gail Nuse
8:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I agree. There has not even been a soul into our development to assess our situation in the Gardens of Lake Hopatcong, yet our mayor made the outrageous remark that the Gardens was up and online. Bogus. Her street is the only one with power!! Some folks don't have water either due to the pole breaking the main.
3:01 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
So you all know. Jcpl (first energy) plan to file a rate hike request by dec 1 and use sandy cost as a reason for it! How do they look at themselves in the mirror?
3:08 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Looking at the stats JCP&L is the straggler. All other companies have 90% or more of their customers restored. JCP&L 75% >
4:42 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Huh? The article says JCP&L has 75% of customers out (meaning without power), which is the lowest of all the providers. In other words, 25% restored, which is the highest percentage of all the providers. Read it again. It says:
"Christie gave numbers on customer outages for each power company. He said as of Thursday morning, the percentage of customers out were: PSE&G, 95 percent; JCP&L, 75 percent; Atlantic City Electric, 95 percent (down from 100 due to Athena); Orange & Rockland, 92 percent."
11:14 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
There is a problem with the JCP&L numbers. If you take a look at the list that was posted on the Montville Home page (which listed the streets still without power) many of the streets in Towaco are missing. Missing a line or two might be just sloppy or the output of someone who isn't very proficient creating Excel spreadsheets. On the other hand, if they are using that as the basis for reporting the percent restored then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if you under report the base number of ourtages the percent restored looks more favorable than it really is.
The second point that that I would like to ask is why did the town post a list on the website that is so inaccurate? They may be at the mercy oif JCP&L right now but they should have control over what get's posted and I would think that they have a pretty good sense of what parts of Towaco are without power.
M OKeef
3:12 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Guess Christie has not read the millburn patch article saying 300 homes with no electrical resolution date forecasted. When is the JCP&L rate appeal; is there a public hearing we can attend? I am ready to mark my calendar. All these politicians happy to come to town to ask for campaign contributions but nowhere in sight when there are real problems to fix.
Tracey Hos
3:14 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Sorry to sound skeptical but I would want Mr. Christie to articulate what happens on Sunday when power is NOT restored?
Annmarie May
5:26 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Nothing, just like what has happened, 7-10 days we were told to prepare for. The website said on Monday we will be restored by Wednesday, 11/7, yesterday it said Sunday at 11:59. Today it says Satuday/Sunday. They can't seem to get it right.
3:20 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Judging by what I have seen in the past 10 days, I cannot see how power can be fully restored by Sunday.
Dan Sheola
3:26 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
JCP&L has gone missing in action since about 2 days after the storm, drakestown rd heading to Flanders should be closed and is an embarrassment. People in mount olive were told by out of state power workers they might not see power for a month and homes on the far side of the valley another 2 weeks.
Bernie Berkowitz
3:31 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
why can't you just type your address in to the JCP&L site and be told when you can expect to get back your electricity? It is a lot easier to wait a few days if you know when it will be over.
4:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Sounds like a good opportunity to create an app for that and make some money
3:52 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
because it's incredibly more complicated than that. it's not like they have a map at their HQ with a little light for every customer that shines when they have services and goes dark when they don't. That's called a smart grid, that no one is willing to invest in.
Madison, NJ had power up quicker than pretty much anyone. Guess who owns the electric utility there?
3:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Probably could have been restored a week ago if Christie wasn't so busy giving bear hugs to Obama.
4:02 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Probably wouldn't have been a storm at all if he'd crawled into bed with Mittens!
Tim Again.
7:39 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Do you live on UrAnus? You line of reasoning is moronic.
3:52 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Springfield, NJ was out of power for 10 days after Irene & last year's October storm. Not surprisingly, 2500 still remain in the dark. I hope all you democratic union supporters see now why unions are NOT effective!
Tim Again.
7:37 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You root for the Soviet Union since your party wanted to suppress the vote.
1:42 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I'd say the Republican executives are more to blame then the guys on the street. You think Don Lynch has been working 16+ hour days for almost two weeks?
Brian Hurrel
8:54 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Because the non-union crews in Louisiana did such a bang up job after Katrina?
3:53 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Yeah, those guys working 16 hour days are the problem. you're a bafoon.
Richard D. Cameron
3:59 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Hey Alan. You truly believe the union is responsible for not restoring power. Suggest you investigate the pre and post-Sandy planning by the utility companies. See if they truly understood the damage estimates and acted accordingly. I'm not much of a union supporter but blaming the men and women who risk life and limb restoring your electricity because they belong to a union is beneath contempt.
Ojo Rojo
4:13 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I didn't know those trees that knocked out the power belonged to a union.
3:54 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
literally - a guy my dad works with in Pennsylvania lost both arms because he was electrocuted replacing downed lines.
Big Man
4:12 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
If you want the truth, speak to the linemen. They did not come up here for "a few days" of OT. They are looking for the big payday. They have renamed this storm "Hurricane Benjamin" as in $100 bills. If we in Long Valley are at 100% by December we will be lucky.
8:16 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Do you work for free, Big Man? Do you think that billionaires who aren't "working hard" but make their money from dividend checks and trading investment vehicles don't deserve their money? Most people who think the way you do think that the billionaires deserve everything they get, and yet these linemen who risk their lives every time they deal with these wires should somehow work for free. Why is that?
4:24 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
If there were competition among electric companies, JCP&L would have incentive to work harder. Furthermore, b/c these workers are union it makes it far likely that employees will be terminated due to poor performance. Time and 1/2 sounds pretty good to me for overtime. Most people work 10 hour days and don't get paid "overtime". Aside from natural disasters, JCP&L workers have it pretty easy. This is the time for them to prove that they deserve the contract. Sorry Ojo, looks like you've never taken a basic economics course and I don't have time to teach you.
Ojo Rojo
4:32 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Clearly you don't understand the concept of a natural monopoly.
Richard D. Cameron
4:26 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Whether the linesmen are here out of a sense of patriotism, altruism a payday or combination of all three matters not. They are here to help us; a thank you is appropriate. Save your ire for the utility companies, whose hurricane planning was/is embarrassingly incompetent..
Ojo Rojo
4:40 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
And don't forget to complain to your town or city for not taking down all those massive trees that knock out power every time the wind blows. Those trees are why most people don't have power. It is complete stupidity to plant trees like oaks near power lines, let them get to 70 feet tall and then complain when a big storm literally knocks down thousands of them all over the region and knock power to a few million people in the region.
9:55 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Ojo....I like my trees and FYI most of these 70 ft oaks were here way before the power lines...massive storm knocked down massive trees...why should the town (ie: government) tell me which trees I should remove on my property....I don't want the government involved in more of my decisions in life....
9:56 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
And, I too, was without power 6 days this time, 7 days after Irene, 5 days after the Oct storm last year and 6 days the March before....
3:59 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Now, I'll defend the utility companies slightly. A for profit utility is not going to keep thousands of poles and transformers on hand unless they know they will be needed. Thus, you can call it poor planning, or you could call it a wise move influenced by each company's CFO. If every utility purchased all the equipment we ended up needing, and had all the contracted employees up here on saturday or sunday waiting (some were here, but not enough), and the storm ended up being not too bad - their stock prices would have been hammered when the next quarterly earnings came out.
It's a calculated risk they take. And guess what? Unless we all go out and buy our own solar panels and/or a windmill, they aren't losing us as customers, deregulation or not.
So, some may call their hurricane planning incompetent (i would be one of those), but looking at it from a business perspective, they did exactly what i would expect of a for-profit utility. They planned slightly, and hoped it wouldn't be worse than what they planned for. And if it was, they'd get those resources when they could.
to the folks commenting on the trees - we actually have pretty good power lines for handling trees. the problem in this storm was more the number of poles that came down than the number of trees, though, trees were a problem.
The Stig
4:31 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You'll never have competition between the transmission companies - i.e., the people who bring the power to your home. There is competition amongst the power generators, and that does help keep the price down.
As for "having it easy," try hanging from the top of a utility pole in freezing weather and working on fixing a power line at 1:00a. It's easy when you're sitting inside your home (even with no heat or power) to criticize the people who are trying to fix a system that was trashed by this storm, but most of these guys are busting their butts to get everyone going again.
Echo 2
9:22 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
This is the only time these guys have to actually work- and I am supposed to think they have it hard? It's the path they chose. Just like how I wake up everyday at 5 to get to the city at 7 only to work 12 days. Life I chose.
4:01 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Echo - these guys work at least 8 hours 5 days a week. it's not the only time they do work. you're quite an ignorant person if you seriously believe that. The Stig didn't say the workers are complaining. And I assure you, they're not. They love it when there is a storm and they get to do more work.
Joseph Meehan
4:36 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Have they seen Mountain Avenue downtown or Hillside Ave by Bausral Golf club? Are these JCPL technicians coming to Sprinfield? I hear Gov Christie has power.....good fior him. We were told in a bulletin from Mayor Shehady our power would be back on tuesday vor Wednesday. now its Sunday? Where and when can we expect the truth. JCPL has to be accountable for thier grid and the poor performance.2 weeks with no power is not a joke.
Donna T
5:03 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
PSE&G has been a JOKE!!! They have been AWFUL! I have not seen ONE of their trucks, I did see ~20-25 trucks from another utility sitting in Secaucus and a transformer leaking toxic oil across from an elementary school, and when I confronted PSE&G all they had were excuses, excuses, excuses. I have not seen ANY PSE&G trucks since this happened. Seen lots of Verizon, JCP&L (when I was @ parents house at shore) and when my power was restored, it was because of a crew from Florida Power & Light (yes, working on behalf of PSE&G, I know)...but no sign of PSE&G except to deny what I was tweeting about, and sharing pics of...they tried to deny what I had photos of! idiots! Can't wait to not pay my bill on time and give them the same excuses: trying my best, will get to it soon, affecting everyone.
4:29 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Though it's been frustrating, I've actually seen quite a few PSEG trucks out. It was just a long time before they were in my area. The fact of the matter is, the work that is done that would lead us all to see trucks out is the work that they do last. This complaint was voiced over and over again. I doubt a single human being saw my father during his 9 straight 16 hour days. But plenty people got power back in his company's territory because of the work he was doing.
I suspect that Sunday is entirely possible, because by now, they should have a handle on where all the downed lines are as long as they have been reported.
My main complaint with PSE&G is that their website wouldn't let me report the outage. I had to call to report the outage. I know it sounds silly to people since so many lost power, but your utility has more useful information if you're able to report your specific account as being an outage.
PSE&G's systems are antiquated, i found out through a billing problem. Not surprised it carries over to this.
5:11 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
No way power coming back on Sunday, throw out jcpl from nj
5:15 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Gov Christie , do you have any plan in place if we have still have no power on Sunday? Or what are you going to do? We would like to know.
Brian Satch
5:16 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Workers told me not till Tuesday but they have everyone else around me up and running.
Debbie Bruen
5:24 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Finally saw utility trucks this afternoon in Morris Township - what a joke ten days after the storm and they are just surfacing - their response has been a total joke and I hope that the governor looks into their poor response - worse than last year by far - I should submit my gas bills for all of the gas I used to fill my generator for the last ten days and counting!
5:59 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
@Debbie - Keeping track of the gas expense is an interesting idea. I wish we had done that. I'm curious - how much did you spend on gas compared to how much you would have spent on electricity for the same period?
Governor Stay Puft
5:28 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Is Sunday when his junk food supply runs out? Uh oh. Fatso Mad!
Gavino J. Vetrano Jr.
5:35 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I'm sorry Governor, but Sunday isn't good enough. I live in Lord Stirling Village in Basking Ridge, and we have been without power for 10 days now; not to mention the 7 days that we went without power due to
Hurricane Irene. The State of New Jersey needs to hold JCP&L accountable for their actions.
5:56 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Could someone please tell me what "hold JCP&L accountable" actually means? They ARE accountable. In fact, nobody else is accountable. Nobody but them can repair those lines. So what does this phrase mean? And by the way, they are losing revenue from all of the electricity they are not selling during the outage, so they are getting hit hard on both ends at the same time: zero revenue and a huge cost for repairs at the same time. This has to hurt pretty bad, I would say.
Don't get me wrong, I am not defending their performance, which has been abysmal and unacceptable. Just saying that I don't see how anybody else but JCP&L COULD be held accountable for the restoration of power to JCP&L's customers.
As a final comment, the laws of physics prevail in all cases. Physics brought the trees and lines down, and it will take physics to put them back up. Overseeing the repairs to make them happen quickly takes good operations management skills. That's where they appear (to me) to come up short.
4:35 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I agree with you Jon. I mean, I give a certain degree of leeway because no publicly traded company or privately run company is going to make financially imprudent decisions to "overprepare" for a storm (overprepare, in their CFO's eyes). My dad's company in PA fully expected a 10 day restoration schedule, I think they got their last customers back towards the end of day 9, because their engineers evaluated it and knew that their lines were only rated to handle 35-45mph winds - so, they knew lines would be down all over the place. In a tiny lake community my dad worked in, they had 15 poles down, and the roads were too narrow for the trucks to access them. So, guess how the guys had to go about restoring 15 poles, which would normally take about 5 hours per pole? Manually, by hand, with the old fashioned way of climbing the poles.
But, that being said, I think they should have better data at their fingertips to be able to properly assess what equipment in the field is offline or damaged, and better methods for customers to report specific information, to improve their data even more. They know how long it takes to fix a pole, repair a downed line, or replace a transformer. So to me, that means, they simply have no decent way to know how much of each problem exists in their territory.
It should be relatively easy for them to track. But, of course, such a system would cost upfront investment.
Glen Fiddich
5:58 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
As pathetic as Sunday is, I would gladly take it were it guaranteed. The sad fact is that I have no confidence that even that date will hold.
6:01 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You might as well be mad at PSEGJCP&L.
Throw in a few more letters if you like.
The reality is that the present system doesn't encourage a competitive environment.
Sort of like the two party system which no longer addresses our needs.
Pressure your townships to privatize their energy utilities.
Madison is an example of a town that has done this effectively. You won't find their restoration figures obviously, but ask anyone you know who lives there how it's been working. Of course, politically connected, experienced leadership doesn't hurt either.
There was an immediate response the day after the storm.
I saw more crews in Madison working in one day, than I've seen in Summit for the last 10 days combined.
8:26 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
"Pressure your townships to privatize their energy utilities."
Are you aware that the utilities ARE privatized? That they are for-profit publicly-held companies that trade stock? PSE&G is listed on the NYSE. The mission of a for-profit utility company is NOT to provide you with electricity, it is to MAKE MONEY. There are two ways to increase their bottom line -- increase revenue or cut costs. If it helps the stock price to defer maintenance, to not incur the expense to install underground wiring, to not bring enough crews to repair the infrastructure, then they are fulfilling their mission to their shareholders.
It's the same as this silly notion that companies exist to create jobs. The only reason companies create jobs is if the people they hire can make them more money. If they can make more money by working existing people harder or offshoring work to developing nation sweatshops, then they are fulfilling their mission. They do not care about you. That's reality.
4:38 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
actually, deregulation has removed any incentive for the big utilities to maintain their equipment or spend any money on newer technology, because other companies get to benefit from that investment.
Madison is an example of a town that has done it effectively because Madison owns the utility.
Kathy Kelly
6:07 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
We have been told Nov 14 and some families as late as December 4th here in Tewksbury Township. People here had to clear many of the roads themselves just to get out. Its beyond pathetic and I see Mittens lying to the American people rubbed off on Christie.
Mom In the dark
7:14 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I too would like to know what happens when power is not restored on Sunday.
Likewise, when he talks about the number of schools up and running, is he talking about full days and all schools in a district up and running or is he including in those numbers the babysitting going on because kids are doubled up in elementary schools. It's an insult to our teachers to call that up and running! Do those numbers go on his permanent record... So he looks good.. he can say he's the gov who had 75% of schools up and running within two weeks. I have respect for gov christie because you know where he stands, but please governor... you're not fooling anyone with that stat.
Concerned Taxpayer
7:15 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Summit must not be in NJ, cause it's 11 days and counting.
kim b
7:20 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Wow unbelievable, JCPL even lies to Gov. Christie!
7:28 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I would love to know what politicans can do about the situation with so many people out of power? NOTHING!!! They dont have a clue what it takes to restore power, all they can do is talk. Sure many are still out but the crews are out there, there are crews from all over the country working, does anyone on this site know the amout of work out there?? does anyone know what it takes to do this monumental job?? just be glad you still have a home, that is going to be warm and have lights once the job is done. Yeds its cold, yes is inconvenient, but count your blessing, your family is alive, you are alive and your home is still there and the electricity will be on soon. Say thank you to the people out there 16 hours a day trying to restore the power and quit your complaining, they are working on it.
7:36 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
It is not about getting the power restored as it is about the information on how long it would take. In Hopatcong we have been fed grossly inaccurate restoration numbers and timelines. We are trying to take the best actions for our families. After assessments, worst case scenarios could have communicated and decisions could have been made from there. I am thanking the linemen everyday. They are even baffled at the lack of communication with so many people still out. The power will come back when they fix it, I get that but you could have told me it's gonna be awhile. I could have made much better decisions for my family.
4:40 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
@Mick2b - the problem is, they really don't know. But they can't say they don't know, because people will flip. So they started by giving a very general ETR. Then, they attemped to give more specific ones. They should have stuck to the general ETR and not even bothered with the specific ones - because when garbage data comes in, only garbage data can go out. They simply didn't know.
7:29 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Those UNION THUG power workers are really awesome. They're thug UNION BOSSES probably won't let them work more than six hours a day.
What a bunch of LOSERS!
9:31 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
You mean the guys that actually do work for a living and pay taxes, rather than sit back and take barely taxed unearned income and don't work more than six hours a day? You better re-evaluate who is the loser here.
Echo 2
7:31 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I agree. Privatizing energy utilities is the only solution (aside from putting all wires underground). Milltown, NJ is another town that has done this effectively. Jcp&l is a disgrace. It's not its workers that are to blame, but rather its upper management. Also, let's not forget ....there are a lot of politics tied to which towns get power back first.
Concerned Taxpayer
7:42 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Exactly...Corey Booker has power back in Newark, Bloomberg had all but 95 households powered up in NY City as of this morning. Hoboken which had 2 feet of flooding and most residents had their cars totaled had their power restored last Saturday. We and everyone else can see where our individual mayors are in the pecking order.
8:34 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
JCP&L is already privatized. It is not a government entity, it is a for-profit, publicly-held company; a division of FirstEnergyCorp, with stock traded on the NYSE. Now if those of you calling for the privatization of the utilities are talking about "returning them to the private sector", they are ALREADY in the private sector. If you are calling for the utilities to be run by the municipalities or the states, then you are calling for making them government-run. Just want to be clear that this is what you are asking for....especially those of you who think the private sector does everything better.
Dan Faulkner
12:59 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Cables on my street and surrounding streets are underground. We are without power and have been since the storm hit. Being underground does not seem to help. IN fact, once out, I wonder if it's not worse. Since they are underground and not hazardous there is less incentive to work on them.
Julie Gallagher
7:34 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Long hill twp. Last when Halloween storm hit now half the town gets power 2 to 4 days ago while the rest ignored. How can JCPL get away with that?
Echo 2
7:43 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The 1,600 additional crews that jcp&l brought to NJ TODAY should have been brought to NJ LAST WEEK. The sluggish performance can be linked to the fact that union workers have no fear of losing their jobs. & hey, why hurry if you're getting paid time & 1/2 for overtime? Jcp&l has now proved that it is incapable of doing its job in a timely manner.
9:34 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
So what you're saying is that these guys don't take their marching orders from anyone but themselves? That JCP&L, which is out to make a profit, would willingly let these guys dictate when and where they will go? Interesting. So, is this blustering by you or could you point to some semi-reliable source to back up your claim?
4:43 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
double time on Sundays! whooooohoooo.
hate to break it to you, but it's management at these companies that has proved inept during this disaster, not the union crews.
7:43 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I was listening to 101.5 tonight and the Mayor Fried of Robbinsville was interviewed. His town has split service between PSEG and JCPL and he said there was a big difference between the two companies. He felt PSEG gave specific details and had great communication skills to provide as much information to help the community. As many of us have noticed, JCP&L was not as helpful.
4:46 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
i can't compare, but PSE&G started by giving a work plan (which Gov Christie ordered) that was release at 7pm last saturday that said my town would be fully restored by 11:59pm that saturday night. Well, I knew, just what i could see with my own eyes, that it would never happen unless they had dozens of crews in the town all day that day. Sure enough, the next day, they released an updated work plan, with 2,000 less customers than the previous day on it for west orange, and now had restoration scheduled for Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday. So, the Saturday work plan was garbage. Probably a best guess released to appease Christie's demand. Sunday's work plan was so-so, as they mostly got it done to that plan, but when I was on the phone with PSE&G on Sunday to ask about the discrepencies in the plans, their agents on the phone weren't even aware of the plan released on Sunday and were basically telling me I should have power.
So, while anecdotally, it sounds like JCP&L has been worse, don't think for a minute that it means PSE&G was "good". I'd give them a B+ for trying, and a C- for actions/information.
7:44 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Sorry to stray from blaming the government and the utility companies...
I hope this tragedy will be the push needed to begin focus on our decaying infrastructure, our reliance on fossil fuels, and the reality of climate change. Many jobs would be created, green energy could be utilized, and we could decrease our dependency on fossil fuels. Something to think about while you are standing in line for gas.
We will get through this...but do we continue going in the same direction, patching up our existing grids, going without power for days/a week+, fearful of what the next storm will bring?
Our tax payer dollars should be used to create jobs to UPDATE our infrastructure!
Rex Smithers
8:22 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Maria, Climate Change? Read this carefully. Those are called seasons. The climate changes several times a year during different seasons. This planet is thousand of years old and the climate used to change far more drastically before YOU and your God OWL GORE showed up with your magic trick thinking.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF A VOLCANO? You do realize that volcanoes have far more effect on our atmosphere than fossil fuels. Don't You? GO SOLYNDRA!
IDIOTS! Dime A Frickin Dozen!
Rex Smithers
8:50 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Nancy Duggan, a little education and less imagination goes a long way too.
8:07 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Yes...climate change....REALLY! Maybe you missed the meteorologists stating that they have never seen these patterns IN THE HISTORY OF RECORD KEEPING. Many scientists feel it is due to melting ice and the raising Arctic Ocean...
And, even if the cause is not climate change, why do we not want to fix the problem? Update our infrastructure? Most European cities have somehow managed to put their power lines underground, many places are utilizing green energy...why must we continue to bandage aging infrastructure? In the end, I feel it is more costly to continue in this matter...
And name calling is not what I would call a discussion...we obviously disagree but this "idiot" is able to be civil about it.
8:28 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
WOW... when it comes to following the liberal partyline; Maria drank the entire jug of Kool-aid.
8:55 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
wally...please read the abstract below. I believe scientists come from all areas of the political spectrum. This is not about politics, but facts. I hope you can understand it.
9:12 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Maria - can you tell me how long the "HISTORY OF RECORD KEEPING" actually is? at best a couple of hundred years, the rest is just guessing. The abstract from your link states 'insufficient data', 'we lack understanding', 'hampers our ability to make accurate predictions'; as I read these items I say to myself there's nothing concrete to any of this. The "facts" really aren't facts.
9:37 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
@Wally and Rex: The willfully ignorant are a dime a dozen as well. Ignore the evidence at all those on both sides of the political fence agree is happening (if not about the root cause) if you want to. But lashing out at the rational is spitting into the wind.
9:40 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
There are many articles to suggest the melting of the Artic is influencing more severe storms. You are right, they have only being studying storms for a hundred years or so...
So, because this can not be proven, we are therefore going to dismiss the idea of updating our infrastructure? My main point was that we need to look forward, to look at long term solutions. I don't understand why a disabelief in climate change equates to not thinking green energy is a good idea...putting lines underground is not a good idea...creating jobs in this country to better our infrastructure so that the next storm doesn't leave millions without power...
7:48 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Where is Obama on all of this? If he would spend money on roads and bridges instead of welfare we wouldn't have these problems. Obama is probably vacationing while we are without food shelter or heat? Yeah he used us and now he's off with his rich Hollywood types . Shame on you Obama. You only visited for a photo op while people are dying
Rex Smithers
8:54 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Relax BelareBirden. This whole storm is a "bump in the road". People dying like in Benghazi is "Not Optimal". Obama uses these these phrases when people die.
Life goes on for Obama. You'll have to catch him on the back nine if you want to see him again. He's done with his Hope and Change in NJ.
Rex Smithers
8:54 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Relax BelareBirden. This whole storm is a "bump in the road". People dying like in Benghazi is "Not Optimal". Obama uses these phrases when people die.
Life goes on for Obama. You'll have to catch him on the back nine if you want to see him again. He's done with his Hope and Change in NJ.
8:44 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
What do you define as "welfare"? Are you aware that what you think of as "welfare" (i.e. payments to people YOU define as undeserving) is only 2% of the Federal budget? So...what is welfare? Social Security? Medicare? Medicaid? Are you aware that a good chunk of Medicaid is payments to nursing homes for the indigent elderly? So...what would you like to do with these elderly people? Shoot them? Turn them out in the cold? Why don't you turn off Fox News for a few minutes and do some actual research into consensus reality?
9:40 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
When Obama wants to spend money on the infrastructure you speak of, he gets smashed for wanting to spend more. If you go by facts, there has no been one budget increase in welfare programs since he took office.
9:40 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
@Rex: And now you cand find your boy Willard permenently on the back nine. How about that!
8:27 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
He didnt say which Sunday, did he?
Look, there are thousands of trees down that took as. many wires, poles, etc with them. I think Jedferson did a great job after Irene of clearing the wildly overgrown trees, particularly on Weldon Road. It would have been worse without this effort. Maybe before we go pick up that new TV, we should look at the aging trees on our property and ask ourselves if its time to buy a new tree instead.
J S Beckerman
8:54 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Rex needs to switch to decaf or adjust his meds and Belare needs to wean himself off FOX "News."
Rex Smithers
8:58 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
J S Beckerman, no faux news necessary. Just a tad bit of common sense will get you through.
Owl Gore has made damn near $1,000,000,000 off of this Global Warming - Climate Change - or what ever you people will call it next.
9:00 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Yes, shouting "really" and calling folks idiots isn't the way to effectively make a point.
Rex Smithers
9:16 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
i apologize. i want to save the earth too but saving our republic must come first.
Once again, i am sorry.
Janiene Losco
9:46 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Houses on Meadowview Road, Riverside, Castle Way back on the power grid tonight. It's like Christmas came early.
10:04 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I don't know why I keep checking JCP&L daily restoration projections.
Their figures change so drastically, that its harder to follow than the stock market.
My opinion is that this has more to do with "El Niño" than global warming.
You guys crack me up.
This has been so entertaining that I can almost feel my finger tips.
Don Mennie
1:45 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Our heros were linemen on a utility truck from Michigan who got our power back last Tuesday (after 8 days with no juice). Basically, we were told there were far more homes without power than any official stats ever claimed. One guy even cut up some extra firewood for us from dead tree brances in the nearby woods. There are good people out there who want to help, but the task is beyond monumental.
Dr. Venkman
1:56 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
We had electricity by Monday and finally back to normal with internet, phone and TV by Wed. But thanks to the power of the daughter of Zeus, "Winter Storm Athena", a transformer(neither Autobot or Decepticon)exploded on our block(what a display of sparks and flames)leaving us with NOTHING yet again. The best and intelligent answer we get from PSE&G regarding anything is "I don't know." So, Friday or Sunday for full recovery..... at this point, rub a lamp.
5:25 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Governor, I am a supporter but JCP&L are lying to you. I live in Washington Twsp and there is no way they will have power restored there. They show all of Morris County up as of Sunday Nov 11th and they are nowhere to be seen. They will use this latest storm as an excuse for another week extension and then miss that date. Get on them now...
M Mouse
7:14 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
RS: the Govenor's only plan (on Sunday) is to keep feeding his fat body and annoy his constituents.
Richard D. Cameron: you are truly Naive. The linesmen are here to make money, period. In case you haven't noticed (because you are too naive) the economy has been kinda....er.....sluggish in the past 4 yrs. Christmas is right around the corner, so the timing couldnt be better for 'Hurricane Benjamin.'
The Good Guy
8:10 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
The Spin Doctors strike again. Has no one read the article...
"Gov. Chris Christie ... and reportedly said he expects all power to be restored to the state by early Sunday."
So did Christie say or not say this? hmmm...
9:47 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I was told that 150,000 units got heated up in just 1 day there in NJ by non union workers that received a call 'finally' on Thursday and worked all day on Friday. Now it's left up to the utility companies in the areas to service them. Funny they were sent away when the storm began and they went to Connecticut and there power is restored almost fully. They got a call to help out New York. I think doing the same job just different guide lines (!?@!@?!) did not help to pull together as Americans. What' up with that picture? The heart of America was here before the unions and still is thanks to non union regular everyday people. I hope everyone gets serviced soon!
Shivering summit resident
8:49 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
If you believe that I ot a nice mall in The middle of the swamp I would like you to invest in... It's called Xanadu!
Mike Pezeur
8:51 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I agree on where's Obama. If he really had some cajones he would come up with a FDR-style grand plan to force utilities to put the power lines under ground, without utilities dumping the expense onto it's customers. Make the utilities hire a lot of the unemployed Americans out there with the project.
tony g2010
9:58 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
and then when the power line conduit gets flooded and the lines corrode, everything needs to get dug up. Imagine how efficient that process is, it has taken weeks, when the utilities can see everything? Cut down the trees, it is quicker and more efficient.
Xwd AS
7:28 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
We saw Obama, didn't we? A 30 min flight in Air Force One to AC, a photo-op in various places down the Shore, a couple of sound bites for the press and back to the campaign again. Quite how 15% of the "on the day deciders" stated they voted Obama for his response to Sandy is beyond me. It's all Status Quo Ante again now, and Sandy was something that happened last month, or last election.
C'mon Obama ... I dare you to prove me wrong.
9:07 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Maria, thank you for your sanity. Bottom line is: we can't have a "republic" without the earth.
9:20 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Thank YOU justsayin!!! Was feeling quite alone there.
I just think we should look at the long-term picture. Create some jobs, update our infrastructure, consider using green energy! Why do people have to bring politics into it? It is the best solution for all of us!!!
9:35 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I wish there was a way to harness all the ignorance in this comment section and power up my house.
9:52 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Great line, Rich (I will be using it). If any of the tree huggers would like to come to my house there are still plenty of them laying on my lawn in front of my cold, dark house.
Thanks again to the bang-up job performed by PSEG...keep those bulletins coming...we of the remaining 3% need them. And to our local politicos...kudos...the bar has now been set below ground.
10:57 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Thanks, trythetruth, though I have a feeling you would think I am one of those tree huggers. Still, feel free to use it all you want.
unions killing nj
9:42 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Unions have become out of control and take advantage of thier power. with modern laws for working there is really no point in unions anymore.
i work construction and i am none union. jobs would move 3 times quicker and a lot cheaper if unions were not involved. i was once threatened because i threw out garbage that was in my way. i was surounded by 3 union workers who said they would beat the crap out of me if they saw me throw out garbage again because they had union workers whos job was to pick up after them. when i explained i have no problem picking up after them because i couldnt work with all the garbage there and had to make a deadline, they said tough youll just have to wait.
ive also witnessed union workers throw rocks at delivery trucks who are none union to intimidate them.
the teachers union is also i a huge scam, they do not give an individual an option not to join the union, part of thier pay check goes to the union whether they want it to or not.
ive seen first hand how corrupt unions have become
tony g2010
10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
They call non-union people like you scabs or rats, you are taking work away from the laborers. Were you properly trained and supervised to remove that refuse? By the way, if you were non-union, what were you doing on a Union job? Something is not adding up with your tale.
10:21 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Tony...I agree with your post but it could have been a non-union job. Union workers can work on non-union jobs. Also I believe non-union workers can work on Union jobs as long as the non-union employees are paid at prevailing wage.
unions killing nj
10:56 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
tony on construction sites some trades can be union and some can be non union. if a scab or a rat is someone who deoes the same job as best and as quickly as possible i guess i am a scab/rat. how am i taking away work from laborers when i am a laborer?
unions provide workers with no incentive. the longer a job takes the more overtime they will recieve. if they are caught slacking and are fired they collect unemployment until they are placed in a new job.
o and the "refuse" i was throwing out was the garbage left by union workers after thier 2 hour lunch break. instead of throwing out thier lunch garbage they have a union worker who is paid to do that. considering i have a masters degree in engineering and have been in the construction field for 20 years i think i am properly trained to throw out garbage.
11:13 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Killing....Union men only take 45 minute lunches....I was on board with you until you started lying. Also, if Union men do not perform quickly it cuts into the owners bottom line and I can tell you that they would be fired. The owners of the company still need to make a profit and if work is not being done on budget hell will be raised. Yes, they can collect unemployment, but so can others who get fired if not performing well for their companies. And believe me, if these men get a bad enough rep in the Union they will be not placed on jobs as you may think....so please get your facts straight. The laborers tony was speaking of are the Union paid laborers who are hired by the company to do specific jobs.
unions killing nj
1:15 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
michelle ill admit the 2 hour lunch was a bad generalization i made. there are many union workers who i work with that are very skilled and hard workers. i guess the point im saying is with todays work laws these hard working skilled professionals do not need a union anymore. i do the same exact job as some union workers, if i am mistreated, harassed or taking advantage of i can talk to a lawyer. when the union started off it was very neccassery to protect the labor workers, however at some point it got out of hand and now employers need protection from the union because they are the ones taking advantage now.
tony g2010
1:33 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Just back from my 2 hour lunch and a quick nap, what did I miss? Oh yeah, Killing backtracking on some of his BS. If we did not have unions, you would have a huge part of the middle class, not earning a fair wage and paying their "fair share" of taxes to fund Obama's follies. I'll concede that Union regulations may seem a bit unfair to those on the outside, but do you really believe that those workers would make a living wage if left up to the kindness of construction company owners, developers, etc?
3:14 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
unions killing nj, people are just angry with you because you are calling it like it is. I presume most who are attacking you are union workers that have cushy jobs, pensions, get paid overtime and take long lunches. They have no sense of what reality is. Just like the teachers whining about having to pay for their benefits. News flash - EVERYONE ELSE PAYS FOR THEIR BENEFITS TOO. There is no incentive for them to work harder when they'll never be fired from their jobs. Of course this doesn't apply to ALL union workers. But it sure is a nice set up for someone that doesn't want to work too hard. E.g., JCP&L workers.
3:36 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
"Do you really believe that those workers would make a living wage if left up to the kindness of construction company owners, developers, etc?" This sort of pro-union argument would make a great deal of sense - if we were all living in the post-Industrial Revolution U.S. at the end of the 19th century, when unions were actually valuable in addressing real concerns about workplace safety and pay inequality. But since we're not... it's just an antiquated chestnut that gets trotted out anytime someone questions the continued existence of unions. The fact is that unionization is at an all-time low in this country's history (only 11.3% of employed workers) because it simply isn't necessary to protect workers in an age of OSHA, anti-trust regulations and wage competition like it once was. If currently unionized workers were suddenly forced to abandon their unions, what would happen - would they have to take pay cuts to earning 10% to 30% below their current salaries? Because that's the average premium that unionized workers earn over non-union employees doing the exact same jobs. It's at the high end of that scale in the private sector, and that's not including the significantly better fringe benefits going to union workers. So by all means, please tell us what would happen if the 11.3% of US employees weren't unionized - would current union employees have to earn the same as non-union employees? Sounds tragic.
unions killing nj
3:46 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
"do you really believe that those workers would make a living wage if left up to the kindness of construction company owners, developers, etc?"
yes i absolutely do. i do the same exact work as union workers, my boss is a construction company owner and he pays me very well and treats me with nothing but respect.
heres an example of how screwed up unions are; my boss built this company from scratch, it is his livlihood. we get jobs by producing high quality work, if our work is not up to expectations we will lose future work. if a union worker quits or gets laid off we do not have a choice of the next person hired. the union can send us any joe schmoe they want and we have to take him. so this is my boss's company and he has no say on union workers being hired. if thats not BS i dont know what is.
unions killing nj
4:00 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
another good example for you. im putting some decorative molding by the entrances of apartments, there are over a hundred of them. a light sconce will be applied over the molding by a union electrician. i notice on a couple he put the lights up before the molding was up, so i talk to him and explain he must take them down because the molding must be on first. he takes them down and assures me he wont put anymore up unless the molding is up first. i get back from a meeting a couple hours later and i see light sconces hung all over without any molding. the super calls a meeting and the electrician plays stupid and lies that we did not discuss that the molding had to go on first. a few week later when its my last day on that job he buys me a coffe and say "sorry for being a d*ck the other day, but i got paid three times more because of that." so basically this guy put the lights up, took them all down, then put them back up again to make am assive amount of OT
tony g2010
5:02 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Killing, last time I checked you don't need a Masters Degree in Engineering to put up molding, maybe that is why you are well paid and taken care of by your benevolent construction company owner. As for the rest of the bulls..t about 11% of the workforce being paid well and all that other happy nonsense, when it comes down to it, if you are doing the same job and getting paid less, stop whining and join the union. Finally, if I was the boss and you knew that that electrician was pulling that crap and you did not tell me, I would fire you, because you were putting up the molding too slowly, he should have hired a union man. And I am not a union worker, but just someone is sick of all you cry babies, bitching about how much better the world would be without unions. We live in the NY metropolitan area, they are never going away. Besides Obama would never have gotten into office without the support of Unions…NEVER.
9:15 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
"When it comes down to it, if you are doing the same job and getting paid less, stop whining and join the union." So you have literally nothing of value to say in response. You could have just said that, it would've saved you the trouble of writing a longer post.
tony g2010
9:44 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Gen, unlike your bs disertation, it is the bottom line. Cry about it or take advantage of it.
9:42 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Exercise some discipline before posting your responses.
Rather than jump to conclusions about what you think you're reading, ask a question.
Semantics are a minefield for communication.
Allow me to rephrase: in place of privatized, insert independently owned and operated.
Madison owns their utility. They purchase power at wholesale and are able to pass the savings on to residents.
They are independently staffed through their public works dept., with additional work done by outside contractors, on an, as needed basis.
They are one of only nine municipalities in the state that operate this way.
Even though this isn't technically a forum, it can be used to share information. Some helpful, some not. Or it can be used to just air frustration. Its all good.
Challenging and indoctrinating isn't helping anyone right now. Look outside your window. We're all disenfranchised, and in this mess together.
This is coming from someone who has made the mistake of ready, fire, aim more times than I can remember.
2:30 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Chefron: What you are talking about is a government-run utility. The government involved may be local, but it is government. What you are talking about is taking the utilities out of the for-profit (private) sector and making them public sector entities. I happen to agree with you about this; I think the electrical grid/infrastructure is a public good that OUGHT to be government-run.
Big Jim Givers
9:43 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Governor Christie, Mayor Bloomberg, Governor Cuomo all come off as small compared to Rudy Giuliani who truly led after 9/11. Bloomberg could not even plow his streets clear of snow after snowstorm because he was so consumed with banning table salt. Governor Christie? He sounds like a teenage girl who squeals at the sight of OneDirection, the object of his affection is Springsteen. Give me a break, stop crying Governor, at least the teenage girls grow up and get over their affection for musicians, it sounds like he hasn't. What a nation of wimps we are.
Sue Osnato
9:31 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I have to agree that Governor Christie does seem to get all mushy around certain stars. It just makes you wonder what's up with that?
Concerned Taxpayer
9:52 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Be that as it may... As of yesterday there were only 95 households in Manhattan without power. On Long Island and Jersey we are close to 300, 000 without power. I will take Bloomberg anytime and Cuomo for his vocal ability.
Keep your suburban hobbyist politicians who should be at their having their nails painted.
Edward P. Campbell
9:56 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
You are all a bunch of Ding-Bats. First and foremost all most everyone posting on this board is looking for someone else to fix their problems. Hurricanes strike NJ, and that is a KNOWN fact. Sea swells like we saw with Sandy and the damage they can cause, again a KNOWN fact. Cheap portable emergency generators can be had for $500 if not less, and good ones maybe $1,000. Throw on a NG/Propane/gas conversion kit and you can ride out any storm.
Did my neighbors buy a generator? No! Did they store water and food? No! Did they call me nuts for saying things like this can happen and preparing for my own safety and well being when they do? Yes! Was it more important to them to spend their money on the biggest TV sets they could find, instead of preparing to stand on their own two feet in case of emergency? Yes!
Now here is the funny part. I've never gone knocking on their doors asking if I could borrow their 65 inch TV set, and "killer" sound system. But last week none of them had any qualms at all about knocking on my door asking me if they could borrow my generator!
And here is the sad part. Next emergency they'll all be standing around again looking stupid again and saying; I should have got that generator and prepared, but doesn't my new I-Pad look so cool?
You want to blame someone for your problems? Look in the Mirror.
11:03 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I didn't buy a generator, like my father in-law said to do and now we're 10 days into staying with him. Your right
Edward P. Campbell
12:04 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Here is an easy survival tip -- Never let your car go under 1/2 a tank, and preferably never less 3/4 of a tank of gas. I felt really bad for the people I saw pushing their cars in the gas station lines!
One more hint -- Always, yes always have a couple 100 dollars cash about. No ATMs, no banks, and a lot of stores and gas stations were CASH only, because nothing else worked! Same goes for prescription drugs, always have a months worth on hand.
3:33 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Did you let them borrow the generator? When you said no, how did you say it? Are they mad at you? You should have a little more faith in people's ability to learn from their mistakes. But apart from that, you are funny, in a curmudgeonly way. But then, I had food supplies, a generator, backup gas in red plastic jugs, plus a full tank, batteries, candles, wood for the fireplace, water, and booze. So I agree with you.
John Case
8:29 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
>And here is the sad part. Next emergency they'll all be standing around again looking stupid again and saying;
This the third big outage in three years in the Sourlands. Just about all my neighbors have gotten generators by now.
I eventually want to get a whole-house generator, but in the meantime, we have an RV with a 4kW generator (electric start) with a 50 gallon gas tank we keep topped off. Along with some gas in cans, we can go for 2 weeks before needing to get gas. I wired the generator into the well water pump and connect a hose to the RV which has it's own water heater for washing dishes and taking showers. We had the freezer, refrigerator, gas stove, microwave, coffee maker, 3 computers, 2 TV's, fiber terminal (FiOS), Wifi, routers, printer, cordless phones, cellular femtocell, 3 CFL lamps, clock radios, etc all running off the generator (and several extension cords). :-)
5:41 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
So glad I read this post. We have a generator, water, non-perishable food...but I had no idea you could get a conversion kit for your generator. My son requires medical equipment that is electricity dependent. I had no idea how we would make it through two weeks without power if gas became unavailable. (fortunately we didn't need to because we did not lose power). Thanks for the information. I will be looking into that immediately.
10:05 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
It is time to seriously consider proposals (with cost) to bury transmission and distribution lines in urban/suburban areas especially if people do not want to trim and cut trees in the right of ways. Look at what Houston did after IKE.
10:11 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I agree kyle. Kudos to those who did prepare (we were ready) but everybody owning a generator is a bandaid, not a solution.
10:19 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I believe Houston already have the underground infrastructure to do that. Such an infrastructure to build, in paramus alone, would be an enormous job. You need ventilation, access points for maintenance as well as for new construction, possible changes to water and sewer pipes. IF it were to be done it would cost millions of dollars, just for 1 town, and at least 15 years to do. On top of that, it's easier and more cost efficient to maintain the lines as they are. A better option would be to replace all the wooden poles, so that in the event a tree or a branch falls on a line, the line may snap but the poles would still be standing upright.
Intertwining power grids so that there is more than 1 feeder line, would also be another option.
I know there's lots of people that are for placing all the lines underground, but I wonder how many of those people would be for all the inconvenience it will take to have that done.
Ojo Rojo
10:25 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
It is easy to bury lines in a new development or in a city after a hurricane wipes everything out. But it is real hard to do it in neighborhoods where you need to dig around pre-existing water, sewer and gas lines, avoid tree roots & deal w/ people living in and around the area going about their daily lives. The cost someone had pointed out earlier could be up to $1mm a mile and there are many thousands of miles of road in North Jersey.
And by the way, the lines were buried in areas of NYC, JC and Newark that lost power. Buried lines only prevent trees from knocking out power. They do nothing to prevent flooding from knocking out power.
10:27 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
O.J. - thanks for the info, interesting. I think we should look at long term solutions, do a cost analysis of each... I don't know the best solution for each town, but to just keep patching up the existing infrastructure to me IS wasteful and doesn't leave us any closer to being prepared for the next storm.
Many people are out of work, somehow we can figure out a way to make our infrastructure better and employ more Americans...but we can't begin if all we do is bicker.
10:41 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
NYC buried its lines after the blizzard of 1888. Public outcry started earlier, but it wasn't until 1890ish that they were all buried. It cost a lot of money then, and it was a hassle then. Imagine how much of a hassle it'll be in NJ now.
Interestingly, Thomas Edison buried the lines downtown long before this, but due to several different power companies in NYC, there were still lines above ground.
10:41 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Rudy Guiliani....please.......
Burying lines is way to expensive.The bill for this storm will be in the 30-50 billion range with the states billing back the Feds.There won't be money for improvements.There were many instances of parts not being available for crews, that needs to be looked at.Crews sat waiting for parts.
l.I purchased a generator after last years Halloween surprise.I was about as ready as you can be. Still you don't want entire towns filling up generators everyday.I am still amazed how well people managed given the circumstances. I have yet to hear of any post Sandy accidents although I'm sure there some close calls.To those without power, hang in there,The list is getting shorter.Lastly, union or not how can you not like someone who drives five states to restore your power?They should get paid for that, I'd want to.
Ojo Rojo
10:46 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
I am amazed more homeowners haven't gotten backup generators powered by natural gas. People that have lost power for a week or more 2x or more in the last 2 years need to start looking into this b/c they will lose power next time too.
10:54 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Not everyone has a place for a generator. None will fit on our balcony/fire escape.
Edward P. Campbell
10:50 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Thank You OJO, you hit the nail right on the head. Burying lines would not have change a thing, so long as the lines that feed the underground lines are in the air, or when substations, switching stations, or generating plants go off line. I've been told the cost to bury a normal distribution line (like what you see in the streets,) can cost upwards of 1 million dollars a mile, and that just for the electric lines in the streets.
That said, there is an estimated 4 million miles of roads in America. If we assume that also means there are 4 million miles of electric wires to bury (not including phone and cable, or the cost to reach each house from the street) we are talking about 4 Trillion dollars (almost a quarter of our GNP) in cost just for the lines in the street, and again that doesn't include phone, cable, what have you, or high tension lines, switch yards, substations, generating plants! Add it all up and it could easily cost more than our current GNP.
Also, ask any lineman. Lightning strikes play havoc with underground power cables, not only that, the faults are hard to find, then it must be dug up to be repair.
Ed Minall
4:20 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
In addition, to the actual burying of the lines there is a huge paper trail that would have to take place. There would have to be utility easement agreements entered with every homeowner impacted. Utility easements in new developments go beyond the road right of way. Typically the "main" trench is in the road right of way, but the utility structures/boxes are outside the right of way on the homeowner's property within the utility easement. Assigning a utility easement would entail updating every homeowner's property survey and deed. All you need is one person to say no, or would want money and everything stops.
The service hits/meter pan on every house would have to be replaced which would involve permits and inspections from the Township. Typically the builder/homeowner is responsible from the riser at the meter pan into the house. In addition, to shutting down the power to transfer everything over from overhead to underground.
There would be switch gear, step down transformer boxes, telephone and cable pedestals etc on lawns. Tree removal, existing utility relocations, road openings for crossings (impacting traffic), digging up lawns, driveway and sidewalk removals and restoration. The site lighting would have to be replaced and placed once again on lawns. Once all of that is done, the old lines and poles would have to be removed requiring restoration. An monumental logistical nightmare.
11:10 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Agreed JCP&L needs to do some work to plan for longer term and to put in infrastructure to reduce/minimize utility impact from natural disasters like Sandy. JCP&L needs some serious incentives to do better.
Neha Pallod Limaye
12:49 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Let's bring about a change... join us here if you think JCP&L messed up - https://www.facebook.com/groups/214956725303852/
12:57 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Guess all those Tree Committees will be out of work.... Cut down whatever you want now----
Jen A
2:56 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Let me switch houses w/ Gov Christie if my power is not up by Sun. If I call JCP&L right now, they have a recording that states "the majority of customers will be up and running by Saturday evening Nov 10th. Other customers who need power lines to their homes repaired/replaced will be Sun evening Nov 11th. Still other customers on top of that, like those in the Barrier Islands, where JCP&L did not start working on issues until this week, will end up being sometime the following week". So...I don't live in the Barrier Islands, and I totally feel for those people there who lost their homes, however JCP&L didn't start doing a damn thing until this week anyway. So that means that basically we are screwed until next week.
Nose Wayne
3:05 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Christie said the power will be restored between Sunday and Saturday, didn't say which week.
3:05 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
underground distribution is not economically feasible and, since I couldn't even get my neighbors to agree to put in a sidewalk, there is no way that this would even be agreed to if it were free. The solution is to kick out JCP&L, make distribution a municipally owned and operated coop, and intertwine the power grid like OJ said. JCP&L has zero profit incentive to do any upgrade to any of the system because, unless we take over the grid, they are the only game in town. It doesn't matter who supplies the power, thats the easy part, the problem is the infrastructure is patched together with duct tape and paper clips and JCP&L doesn't have to care. This will happen again within 12 months if nothing is done. Our real risk is that in a few weeks everyone's attention will be diverted to some other big news story and nothing will be done
3:49 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I'm glad to see people talking about solutions...how do we begin to make a change?
Went to change.org as requested by someone on the Patch, browsed the petitions, and there are now 2 pages of petitions relating to JCP&L...
It's mind-numbing to go through this extended power outage for the second year in a row and to be witness to such continued negligence.
I also don't like the idea of reliance on gas/propane powered generators. Not everyone has the property to allow one. And, whose to say the next time around fuel won't be MORE of an issue than it is now...it's just not a solution.
Update our infrastructure or be liable or we should get another provider.
3:23 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I was prepared,,,,others weren't. If this doesn't push them to be prepared nothing will.
I have a flat screen tv and an Ipod...but was still prepared. I charged batteries for many of neighbors and I suspect seeing someone prepared made an impact.
I am going to look into the propane conversion kit but I wonder....how easy was it to get propane during this last 10 days? I have no idea. I suppose I could remove the kit If I had to.
12:26 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
There was a suburban propane truck parked at the end of my street at 11pm. Two guys were standing outside smoking so I pulled up and asked them if they needed anything. They were up from MD (one guy was showing the other the way around the area) They told me they had been trying to deliver to a home caught between downed oak trees so they couldn't deliver. They tried in vain.
Resident Warren
4:18 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Petition to remove JCP&L from our area:
4:40 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Thanks Resident Warren...but I'm from Long Valley. Looks like the Patch is "Patched" to other Patches based on the scope of the article.
I AM learning a lot about how grids are designed and the complications involved. I don't think we should be stuck on the solution of wires underground, someone mentioned that the poles could be made of different materials so the wires would break but not the poles...
To reiterate, I strongly feel long term solutions, which include updating our infrastructure, should be seriously considered to lessen our impact next time.
4:46 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Sign this Petition to force JCP&L out of NJ!! 12 days no power!! What's going to happen with next storm? ***REPOST THIS PLEASE!!!***
Alan J
4:57 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
Ok govenor, I had aways liked your ways of putting words, a no BS ,no political way, but as someone else syated" what sunday?" The 25 th?
SH resident
7:18 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
at least 25 streets without power so far and it is likely all of them will be sleeping through another freezing night...
Myrtle Ave.
Chaucer Rd
Dryden Ter
Shelly Rd
Spenser Dr
Addison Dr
Tennyson Dr
Hartshorn Dr
Timber Acres
Roland Dr
Ironwood Rd
806 Morris Turnpike
Lakeview Rd
West Rd
Windermere Ter
Coniston Rd
Hobart Gap Rd
South Ter
North Rd
Merrywood Lane
Morris Tnpk
West half of Harvey Dr.
Canoe Brook Rd.
Sue Osnato
10:00 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I think there were serious flaws in the system. I think priorities and good intentions were maybe not so evenly distributed. It's a hard call. This is one crazy situation. I do agree Somerset County was left to her own means for way too long.
Communication and just word from someone in charge that we know you are there and we will get there to help would really be useful.
Sue Osnato
10:07 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
I also would just like to thank everyone in their efforts. I know those responders, town workers, utility crews and even our politicians have been putting forth their best efforts and a lot of hours. These are trying times and it's best to work together with what you got and get through it.
My personal thanks to that tree crew with Texas plates that came through my neighborhood yesterday. Much appreciated.
There will be time to work on the response issues relating to this in the future.
9:19 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I don't think anyone up there really knows that the non union power line workers got turned away. My son was there. So, they moved their team to Conneticut. They have been working there and they got a call Wednesday night that they needed them. They fired up 150,000 homes in 1 day and got directed to move to Staten Island. He said that the local utility companies would have to do the servicing. So, like I said to FEMA; there is people in the northeast who needs help and the union workers should put aside any feelings about experienced non union workers and work together as Americans. A lot of people in New Jersey could of had their power restored I believe if it wasn't for that. But, now all the sudden they are needed because of a deadline to be fulfilled. I am very sorry for the egnorace of who made the call to send away non union powerline workers. I feel badly for those who have to do without power because of a bad call. God Bless all of you that had to experience the shatter of Sandy.
9:40 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Deb, that story was debunked a day after Sandy struck; it's time to spread a more current false rumor.
9:47 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Nancy Duggan... You are the one that is misinformed. The non-union works were required to sign a letter, each of them, that required them to join the union while in New Jersey, to follow union rules while in-state (don't allow any non-union personnel to work on a site). They would also be apart of the IBEW (International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers) when they return to their home state.
Get your facts straight!!!
9:55 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
That was debunked too. Just like the story a few years ago about union workers sitting in their trucks and not plowing the city streets.
If you want to try and crush unions, try and use something truthful.
10:31 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I believe I have. Why did they work in NJ all day yesterday without signing any papers? They were called on Thursday night to move up to NJ to work. And as of early this morning they are moving again to help other areas affected. Signed..... Nancy Duggan.
10:37 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Nancy... You really don't get it... The out of town crews that are working here are in unions in other states.... Dugh... OhioEdison, DukeEnergy, the subcontractors will sign because they want to make 2x time hourly pay.
9:52 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Additionally, and I sure you don't want to hear this either... The power crews are getting paid double time until everything is cleared up... You do the math on what is a substantial hourly wage. Don't attempt to debunk this.... Let me just say that our family is in the business.
11:01 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
time and a half mon-fri for beyond 8 hours, time and a half for saturday hours, double time for sunday hours...
12:24 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Kevin, didn't Bobby tell you not to attempt to debunk his statement? ;)
Gail Zawacki
9:55 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Sandy's monumental storm surge has caused epic misery. However, the damage to coastal areas cannot explain the extent of loss of power inland.
What is being ignored in this storm (and Irene also) is the real source of massive power loss - trees that are falling on the power lines. They didn't used to fall with regularity on people, cars and houses. The winds in both those storms were nothing that a healthy tree shouldn't withstand.
Why are they falling now? The answer is obvious if you actually LOOK. They are all dying. Every species, every age, every location. Symptoms are broken branches, cankers, splitting lichen-covered bark, holes, thin crowns, early leaf drop, lack of autumn color, yellowed needles.
Most foresters blame climate change drought and/or invasives, which doesn't fit the evidence. Native pests and diseases are rampant, and trees watered in nurseries exhibit identical symptoms.
Most people don't realize, because it's invisible, that the background level of tropospheric ozone is increasing. Agricultural yield and quality are reduced, and trees exposed to cumulative damage are universally in decline.
Scientists know that ozone debilitates plants, causing their roots to shrink rendering them vulnerable to drought and wind...AND impinges on their natural immunity to attacks from insects, disease and fungus.
Most of the trees that fell during Sandy were rotted inside. Photos http://witsendnj.blogspot.com
10:18 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I agree that it could be a large percentage of the trees that had fallen. The acid rain produced may have some impact too. It stops the photosynthesis process.
Ojo Rojo
10:25 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
No, they aren't dying b/c of any of the stuff you just posted. The trees are just far older so they are falling over. When I was a kid, every tree in my neighborhood was under 20 years old and far smaller. They almost never fell over in a storm. Well those smaller trees planted in the 60s got big and now in the 2010s they tower over every home and are very top heavy. Their roots are constrained by the roads & structures they were planted next to and that is very bad for the health of the tree and for its stability and now they tend to fall over far more frequently b/c there is so much weight up top and a constrained root system down below providing not so good anchoring to the ground. Big trees located next to roads & buildings is just a bad idea. It isn't healthy for the tree or for the power lines.
10:57 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Trees, just like people, are more vulnerable to disease as they get older.
11:03 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
the trees aren't the major problem. it's the wind that knocked down most power lines and the poles that came down with them. our lines are actually very good for the trees. the big one will bring them down, but the ones that are a bit above average, you can drive around and see many wires still there with trees resting on them.
Ojo Rojo
11:08 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Go look at where the trees that fell were located. You will find far more were located a few free from a road or building than you will see located in a wide open area where the roots have room to spread. A tree planted next to a road is like a one legged man. One good shove in the right direction and it falls right over. Don't you get it? There are almost no roots under that pavement to hold the tree up and a big tall tree needs roots that spread out in a circle around it that is almost as wide as the tree's foliage.
John Case
2:23 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
What was unusual about this storm, IMO, was the 75+ MPH sustained gusts so far inland.
Most of the trees I saw were not rotted or diseased. A lot of what was left of those rotted trees, fell in the last two storms. What I saw that was unusual, was that most of the trees were UPROOTED, especially pines that don't have a deep root system. Even in open areas that have no (alleged) root constraints, perfectly healthy trees were pushed over.
Many telephone poles were falling, not due just to trees, but due to wind loading on the poles and wires. Over the years. we have been loading down poles with more and more services. In our area, in addition to the primary and secondary wiring, we have multiple land-line trunks, plus multiple Comcast lines, plus a big FiOS fiber cable and all the various interconnect boxes and amplifiers, adding both weight and wind loading. It's just more than these poles can take. The pole spacing probably dates back to the early part of the last century based on a fraction of the bearing weight and wind loading. My 2c...
Gail Zawacki
5:44 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
1. Trees that were out in the woods, nowhere near roads, fell over just as much as the trees along the roads.
2. They are not dying because they are old. Most species of trees normally live for centuries - some live for thousands of years.
3. Acid rain is very bad for trees but there is less now than there used to be, because it comes from sulphur dioxide, which has been reduced. That's the visible part of smog. Nitrous oxides however have not been reduced, and that's what turns into ground-level ozone - the invisible part of smog. The background level is increasing. It gives people cancer, asthma, heart disease and other epidemic diseases. It's even more toxic to vegetation.
3. If you prefer not to believe any of these facts, well, I guess maybe you think smoking doesn't cause cancer, CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas and global warming isn't real, the earth is flat and it 6,000 years old.
10:00 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Not wining, just letting people know that the union turned down help from the non union power line workers. Pride or power restored to businesses and homes? Much the less gas stations to operate in full capacity. Why would anyone have to pay to have a job when there are people wanting a job?
10:52 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
There you go... It's in the paper.... It must be so. Just telling you that our family is IN the business and have direct knowledge of the action. Also, note that they are speaking directly to the question about beng turned away... They were presented with the "rules of the game"... Join the union... And therefore opted not to play and left.
10:58 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Nancy..... READ THE ARTICLE!!!
Next to last sentence... "You have to work through trade agreements (what do you think that is?) and aid agreements. One little company Joe Wheeler Electrical Serves as your validation? They've got 5 employees and one truck lol.
11:00 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Here is your JWEMC company link....
Now what?
11:04 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
no, they didn't turn down help. sorry, but you're wrong. stop spreading false information. can you provide any proof?
11:05 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Bobby - my father is a utility worker. no idea what "in the business" means - but he's working side by side with non union workers.
11:06 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
the trade agreements are that the company has to follow certain procedures before bringing non-union workers on. it's standard. you can create an assumption out of it if you'd like to help spread your false information, but the fact is that non union workers are working, and they don't join the union.
10:09 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I don't know anything about the union guys sitting in the truck. That's not my bicker. And yes they non union workers did get turned away from NJ. My son was there. They moved to Connecticut, so was you there. Sandy was and still states of emergency. Why were they turned away when the non union workers could of made a difference to help restore power quicker? What union workers believe in I will respect them for their decision, but to turn away other workers at a time of need. That is what you and I will probably not agree on.
10:55 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Your son is either imaginary or lying to you. Even Christie said on camera that was all not true
10:55 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
No workers were turned away because of union status. Thats a rumor. It was disspelled by the Governor. Non union workers from Texas were in the poarking lot of Bloomfield Fire station #3 resting. They were working for PSE&G. They had no problems. Totaly fabricated rumor.
11:05 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
That's because PSE&G did not require the same "trade agreement" as JCP&L. Again, you guys are like lemmings.... Christie said it it must be so.... The responses by Christie is couched in the "we turned them away at the boarder question."
It's the "I never had sex with that women" comment... Remember....define "sex." You really need to understand the art of public comment by officials.
11:12 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
So Bobby, you won't believe the words of the governor, who never met a union he didn't like to bash, or any of the utilities companies involved, yet you expect us to believe you because you say you're "in the business"?
11:19 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Of course he said that they weren't turned away at the boarder... This was true... But it isn't the reason that they didn't work for JCP&L.
How would that look for the Gov's disaster planning? It wouldn't look good and he would be wildly critized that he did not negotiate a plan that allowed any able bodied electrical worker or company to assist? Those kind of things cost politicians dearly.
Brett Kaiser
11:01 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Anyone care to guess, that the Over development of several regions by "Developers" were not REQUIRED to update the infrastructure and have it as mature as the year round homes? I guess that's 2 things. House that were not meant to be year round, and developments waaay out in the sticks....
Or am I missing the mark on this?
11:11 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Underground services is NOT to the electrical companies advantage!!!
Now, if the electrical company was given an annual, per resident, stipend of say... $250, per year, per house, and they had to manage all maintance and repairs out of that. Amount then they would be incentivsed to ut in ground services in. The long-term benefit to them would be huge... Reduce head count, steady annual revenues without repairs or maintanance.... Basically an annuity.
11:16 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
repairs/maint to underground lines is more costly. the utilities have little to no desire to do it. aesthetic reasons only.
11:21 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
More costly but significantly less frequent. Not even a comparison.
11:20 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Just had a truck from Duke come up to check wires from street to house on E ValleyBrook. He was from No Carolina. says there damage on EVB near 513 is extensive but the crews are working on it now and expect to see power to this street today or tomorrow. Have not confirmed they are actually working on E. Valley Brook now.
11:23 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Great.... Duke Energy workers are a part of the IBEW (international Brotherhood of electrical Workers) Local 1347. Union workers... Union proud... JCP&L allowed.
2:31 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
For the residents in Scotch Plains who live on/near Cooper...just came back from there and...there...is....nothing...happening. No trucks, no crews, no work...nothing other than downed wires.
Spoke to a rep at PSEG (supervisor) who said that last nights midnight claim was an "estimate." When asked for another "estimate" he had no clue other than "doing the best we can." As to why there's nobody on Cooper now working "we have a lot of other people still out." As to why the Governor said this morning that "everyone will be restored by tonight" he said "the Governor is aware that's not happening".
As much as I didn't like the answers....I think I finally may have found one honest man (which is why won't give his name for fear of getting him in hot water w his bosses). The Gov is either in the dark (figuratively) the same as we are...or he is complicit in the deception.
Bottom line, if you're in the area of Cooper, Rahway, Asbrook, Round Hill, Wedgewood...and you had an expectation of midnight last night...or today as per PSEG or the Gov...looks like you can pretty much forget it.
maureen Maguire
3:32 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I'm on Cooper and NOT getting power today .. No way.. Just drive down the road and it's still a mess!!!!!! Some work was done yes.. But not enough to get power on. Let's go....... We want power!!!! Tired of being homeless and led to believe every other day it will be on soon!!! Ain't happening... There is my one guy on Cooper right now. They left an hour ago... It's only 3:30!!!!!
5:48 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Crews on E Valley Brook, Old Farmers, E. mill Rd and Fairmont today but still a long way to go.
John Case
6:54 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
5,580 outages remain from Hurricane Sandy. Power has now been restored to more than 99 percent of the 1.7 million customers impacted..
17,148 outages remain from the Nor'easter Wednesday night and reports of outages received since Friday; these outages may or may not be weather-related.
Since service restoration began, PSE&G has replaced at least 2,500 poles and 1,000 transformers, as well as cut down 41,000 trees, to repair widespread damage from the hurricane. Contrary to rumors, PSE&G has ample supplies of poles and other equipment on hand.
7:47 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
This link provides a list of expected restorations by street. Considering current conditions, it will take a miracle.
8:38 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012
LOL, you can disregard this link. It is now 11/11, due to be restored 11/10 and still powerless
7:38 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
Scotch Plains is suffering. Suffering from a lame duck do-nothing Republican mayor and an incoming do-nothing (apparently) Democrat incoming mayor. Nobody working in the interests of SP citizens. Nobody gives a shit. We are on our own. Keep those property tax checks rolling in, friends.
9:45 pm on Saturday, November 10, 2012
I guess they forgot most of Hopatcong Borough ( Sussex County ) I bet you anything Lake Hopatcong & Mt. Arlington has power already... Money talks and Bull Shit sits.. Morris County pays more taxes then sussex county so we have to wait ...???
8:39 am on Sunday, November 11, 2012
Carlos, In Long Valley we are probably paying more taxes than most in the area and still without if that helps..
Ken Hoffman
7:39 am on Monday, November 12, 2012
Sorry Govenor--STILL no power in Chester NJ...and First Energy, which owns this tottaly decrepit system is expected to make $2.7 billion in cash from operations this year. And yet they will beg for another rate increase. Make their shareholders pay, bury the lines, we are 40 days without power in the last 15 months..it truly is a third world standard in Morris County!!!
12:23 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
After 14 days of no power the Georgia Pacific Power and Light came to our rescue
in Chester NJ. They were awesome, many of them were away from their families for longer than our power was out. They were true power rangers that went well beyond the call of duty. We are so thankful to the boys from Georgia that restored our power. And yes JCP&L sucks!
8:53 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
A Class Action Lawsuit has been filed against the Long Island Power Authority for Breach of Contract, Gross Negligence and Fraud due to their poor response to Sandy. So JCP&L customers are not alone in their suffering. Wonder if somebody will file a similar suit against JCP&L.
9:15 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
This was suggested at last nights Chester Township council meeting. The mayor said he will be joining other mayors in exploring this option. I say we hold their feet to the fire to make sure this happens.
9:36 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
yet another Christie photo op with nothing but bluster and BS. And still...the gutless NJ press corps (either afraid of the Governor or in his pocket) fails to ask why the gasoline and generators were not staged BEFORE THE STORM ARRIVED, despite the Governor warning all of us for a week that we should expect power outages of 7-10 days. And now he's going to raise our taxes. I'll pay to send this loser to Disney World next time we see a storm coming.
11:31 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Does he mean by next Sunday? Thousands of people still don't have power in NJ. Large areas of Brick Township are still in the dark, for instance.
John Case
12:19 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
If you would look at the date (November 8, 2012) you would realize that you're commenting on 6 day old news...
1:14 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
And yet power has still not been restored to all in New Jersey.
John Case
1:42 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
And it wont be, for homes that have been flooded out. It's not safe. BTW, JCP&L says there are 19 out in Brick. (They could by lying...just sayin'..)
1:47 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
They are lying. There are hundreds.
Many other areas, even in Brick, experienced flooding, yet their power was turned on over a week ago.
1:54 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
when are the crews going to pull up wires, cut down dangling trees, etc.....this is just another disaster waiting to happen with the next breeze we have!!
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The Supervillain will say whatever suits his needs at that time and place.
If he suspected Gordon wasn't as hurt as he says he is then he'd never tell us.
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Demps pretty much said Gordon is actually hurt, he wasn't demanding a trade or anything. Demps said Gordon told him he wanted to be here, and did not want a trade. He apparently further injured his knee during Olypic tryouts
I trust Dell, so thats that. *typing this on PS3*
Formally known as WhoDatMan504
The Supervillain will say whatever suits his needs at that time and place.
If he suspected Gordon wasn't as hurt as he says he is then he'd never tell us.
Guess who is putting in time at WBOK 1230 AM Talk Radio... Don't guess, it's me. Tune in on Fridays at 12 noon for Sport-a-Talk with Roe Brown and you might just hear me!
Feel free to PM me for details.
I said earlier that if Monty and company are telling the truth when they say "we want players that want to be here", how could they NOT KNOW that Gordon doesn't want to be here? Why would they force him to be here if they KNOW he doesn't want to be here? Apparently when they've said that comment in the past they knew someone didn't want to be here. I guess whenever they trade Gordon we'll finally hear the "we want players that want to be here".
In other news, it's almost game time.
I'm just not buying this at all. Demps in protecting asset mode it appears.
Snow Job....remember "Chris never came to us asking to be traded...blah blah blah"
"You don't wanna be in Taco. You wanna be in Gap 2" - Monty installing defense
Yes, but Paul's heart is still in New Orleans.
"Hornets means nothing." - Tom Benson
GM's can't wait to get on the phone with Demps. Surely he'll have many takers for Gordon.
I really hope this is accurate. Demps has been straight forward in the past.
If he said Gordon demanded a trade, he'd lose leverage.
2004-2005 Sim League World Champion Los Angeles Lakers
Demps is on NBATV as well. Kind of seems like spin control to me.
So if I'm a GM inquiring about Gordon, do I want an injured Gordon or a Gordon demanding a trade?
hahaha yea, you right. As much as i have been a Demps lover this looks reeeeaallllyyy bad if it plays out as we are thinking.
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- Attack from the skies!
- Capture the moonstone!
- Mummy's chariot and horse measure over 2 (6cm) high, 2 (6cm) wide and 5 (12cm) long
- Ann Lee's helicopter measures over 2 (6cm) high, 1 (3cm) wide and 2 (6cm) long
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