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As soon as you write the changes to the text editor, save what you wrote and close the editor, svn will begin to send the changes in your local copy to the repository. | As soon as you write the changes to the text editor, save what you wrote and close the editor, svn will begin to send the changes in your local copy to the repository. | ||
− | == Other | + | == Other commands == |
− | You can run Subversion to learn Subversion commands as well. | + | You can run Subversion to learn Subversion commands as well. '''''svn help command_name''''' feeds you back with detailed information about command_name while '''''svn help''''' serves you with a list of commands you can use: |
− | + | ozan@laptop branches $ svn help | |
+ | usage: svn <subcommand> [options] [args] | ||
+ | Subversion command-line client, version 1.5.3. | ||
+ | Type 'svn help <subcommand>' for help on a specific subcommand. | ||
+ | Type 'svn --version' to see the program version and RA modules | ||
+ | or 'svn --version --quiet' to see just the version number. | ||
− | + | Most subcommands take file and/or directory arguments, recursing | |
+ | on the directories. If no arguments are supplied to such a | ||
+ | command, it recurses on the current directory (inclusive) by default. | ||
− | + | Available subcommands: | |
+ | add | ||
+ | blame (praise, annotate, ann) | ||
+ | cat | ||
+ | changelist (cl) | ||
+ | checkout (co) | ||
+ | cleanup | ||
+ | commit (ci) | ||
+ | copy (cp) | ||
+ | delete (del, remove, rm) | ||
+ | diff (di) | ||
+ | export | ||
+ | help (?, h) | ||
+ | import | ||
+ | info | ||
+ | list (ls) | ||
+ | lock | ||
+ | log | ||
+ | merge | ||
+ | mergeinfo | ||
+ | mkdir | ||
+ | move (mv, rename, ren) | ||
+ | propdel (pdel, pd) | ||
+ | propedit (pedit, pe) | ||
+ | propget (pget, pg) | ||
+ | proplist (plist, pl) | ||
+ | propset (pset, ps) | ||
+ | resolve | ||
+ | resolved | ||
+ | revert | ||
+ | status (stat, st) | ||
+ | switch (sw) | ||
+ | unlock | ||
+ | update (up) | ||
− | + | Subversion is a tool for version control. | |
+ | For additional information, see http://subversion.tigris.org/ | ||
+ | ozan@laptop branches $ | ||
− | + | In order to have detailed information about a Subversion command, call '''''svn help''''' with the command name: | |
− | + | ozan@laptop branches $ svn help add | |
+ | add: Put files and directories under version control, scheduling | ||
+ | them for addition to repository. They will be added in next commit. | ||
+ | usage: add PATH... | ||
− | default | + | Valid options: |
+ | --targets ARG : pass contents of file ARG as additional args | ||
+ | -N [--non-recursive] : obsolete; try --depth=files or --depth=immediates | ||
+ | --depth ARG : limit operation by depth ARG ('empty', 'files', | ||
+ | 'immediates', or 'infinity') | ||
+ | -q [--quiet] : print nothing, or only summary information | ||
+ | --force : force operation to run | ||
+ | --no-ignore : disregard default and svn:ignore property ignores | ||
+ | --auto-props : enable automatic properties | ||
+ | --no-auto-props : disable automatic properties | ||
+ | --parents : add intermediate parents | ||
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− | + | --username ARG : specify a username ARG | |
− | + | --password ARG : specify a password ARG | |
− | + | --no-auth-cache : do not cache authentication tokens | |
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== Rules For Using Subversion == | == Rules For Using Subversion == |
Revision as of 15:49, 12 December 2008
In this document we'll try to explain how contributers can support the Pardus Liux, which is developed under the structure of Pardus Project, and the requirements to be a Pardus developer. Although we are talking about the Pardus development model in particular, we believe that the requirements explained in the document apply to almost all distribution projects.
Please feel free to browse the web pages of Pardus for other information not contained in this document. From those pages you may find the information needed on other documents, tools used and services. Pardus pages can be reached from http://www.pardus.org.tr
Who is a developer?
To put it roughly, it is not wrong to say that the project should fulfill two types of mission. As it is the case for any distribution, gathering the software and preparing the infrastructure to enable this task and sustaining it, as well as developing new tools and technologies to form the soul of the distribution are among the required tasks.
When referring to developer we describe not only those who write programs but also those who fulfill any single task. We are aware that work has to be done in many areas such as documentation, bug controls, visual materials, translations etc. besides programming to implement a software project. We need all of them for Pardus as well.
How do I start?
First of all its a good idea to keep up with current events. To do this its mostly effective to observe for a while and watch how work proceeds. It might be useful to join the e-mail lists which can be accessed from the Pardus web pages and follow the discussions, ongoing events, investigate bug reports, the solutions proposed regarding the bugs and examine the documents published.
By considering the outlined methods you may continue to help development. You can add your comments and proposals for solutions to the bug reports by testing the sofware or you can report the new bugs you found. You can contribute to develop innovative technologies and add new features or you can support a step of the process which you think is not working (maybe working too slow) and speed it up. By doing so, you should always be in communication with other developers and contributers. As its true for all tasks performed by more than one person, we need to have knowledge of each other.
Our needs can be summarized as the articles below:
Developing software And debugging
You can contribute your knowledge and labour on developing software by assisting with cleaning up the source and helping innovative technology teams working in this field. They can provide the best information on how you can help them. The Pardus e-mail lists which you can join via http://liste.pardus.org.tr/mailman/listinfo will be helpful.
You may examine the reported bugs, and find solutions for them, using Pardus bug tracking system which can be accessed via the web pages.
Translation issues
Localization of free software, to enable them to be used with correct and perfect Turkish is another requirement for us. In this context, you may work with localization teams organized for almost all major free software project. We'll draw direct benefit from your support for localization projects if you give priority to the software selected by Pardus project.
To say in short, support localization efforts. Beyond rough translations try to improve the quality of translations. While supporting translation works, by providing not only Ulusal Dağıtım but also all existing Linux distributions with packages in problem-free Turkish, you will be part of an important mission.
To support notable translation groups, you can reach the localization works you feel interest in via http://www.pardus.org.tr/projeler/turkce/y10me/ (in Turkish)
Tests and bug reports
You can report bugs by testing the software we choose. You can controle the bugs in other distributions and report the situation. To know that the very same bug exists in other distributions might help us to produce a proper solution. If that problem is solved -or never existed- in a particular distribution, reaching a solution will be faster by examining the work that particular distribution did for that software. You can reach our bug tracking system via http://bugs.pardus.org.tr/
Graphical design and multimedia
If you are talented in this domain, you can help with the topics which require graphics knowledge, such as the icon sets, font types and colour themes. Feel free to ask for help from us via e-mail lists when you need visual materials to use in your work.
You can support the documentation of the ongoing projects. Along with the user's documents you can prepare ``How To documents for the developers that have newly joined the project. You can assist us to update our Web pages or you can help us to keep foreign language -such as English, German, Spanish- translations of our pages up-to-date.
You can support the publicity of the project and encourage more people to learn about it.
Probably the list of the topics you can help is not limited with those above. By rendering your opinions on the discussion points within e-mail lists, advancing proposals, providing the lists with constructive criticism and developments related with the distribution, you can find new topics to help.
What is the responsibility of the developer?
Indeed, the answer of this question might vary considerably depending on the subject you begin to work on, but we can mention the basic responsibilities of all developers in general. In fact, the responsibilities described here are basic points for many developer to work together in harmony. In this sense, although what is mentioned below is true in general, you can find your own way to cooperate as you become familiar with your working environment and friends.
A developer should be prepared to work on the projects s/he is dealing with continiously. Here ``continuity doesn't stand for a 7/24 work but it stresses the continuity of the subject to be dealt. For different areas are clannish in an operation system, developers should keep up with each others speed.
In the project you might be working on the same subject with more than one developer. What's more, there might be other developers affected by your work. For this reason not only the continuity of your work but also the accuracy are of great importance in proportion with the extend they affect other developers. If you are performing your work on one of the main development repositories, you should take into account the other developers working with you that are affected by your work, in all stages. You should make sure that any change you make does not -even slightly- prevent other developers from doing their job.
If you have the power of decision for a subject you are working on, changing your decisions too often makes it difficult for the other developers to follow and what's more important it makes the developers who are dependent on you to have difficulties while working. Hence it will be useful to take well-thought decisions and to ask for the opinions of the other developers before making a decision.
At a particular point if you feel that you should change your decision anyway, you can do this by letting the other developers know about it and -if your previous works are already being used- by working in an ``experimental area harmless to them.
It'll be useful to let other developers know about the decisions you make, the steps you take and the changes -even the minor ones- you make. In this way, you can adapt new developers -who are always needed- to the subject you are dealing with easier, you can cooperate with the developers you work with more consistently and faster. When you'll be in need for help in the future, with the help of this attitude, you can be sure that a solution will be produced faster because another develepor already knows what you want to do. For communication you can use e-mail lists, the documents you'll prepare or explanatory information (such as subversion messages) you'll add to the changes you make.
New developer application
There's always room for a new developer. You too can apply to be a Pardus developer and become an official developer as well. Although it's a prerequisite to accept the responsibility of being a new developer, it's not enough for all cases. On the other hand, we can put it openly that we are enthusiastic for delegation of responsibility and accepting new developers. For details please keep on reading...
Who may submit?
Everyone who is working for Pardus and who accepts the developer responsibilities described in this document may submit a new developer application. The main channel of communication is the e-mail lists. In order to accept an application, applicant's determination and style of working should be obverved. In this sense, you can select a task suitable for you and begin working on it before you submit. By sharing your work with the other developers you enable them to examine your work and so other developers will have the chance to become acquainted with you.
For example, it may be a good starting point to work on the software which is already in the package repositories, propose new patches and solutions, examine and test other solution proposals and report what you get.
Besides, there's a volunteering dashboard called Imece (which stands for an old way of collaboration in Turkey) 1
How to submit?
To submit the application you can e-mail to firstname.lastname@example.com
In your application e-mail;
1. the development subjects you are working on related with Pardus, 2. other subjects you want to work on, 3. the e-mail address/username which you use for the bug tracking system, 4. your areas of specialization, 5. a Pardus developer who knows about your work and might be a reference for you
should be included.
You should include the username and ciphertext (created by htpasswd) of your password in your application e-mail. By doing so, you provide us with the ciphertext of your password where you are the only one who knows the plaintext. We can then add your username and password wherever an identitiy check is required.
Creating a password with "htpasswd"
You can create your password and username by using htpasswd program and you can attach the output file to your e-mail. To do this, you can use the command below:
$ htpasswd -c password_file user_name New password: Re-type new password: Adding password for user user_name
As a result an output file (password_file) will be created and you can attach it to your e-mail.
Creating A Password With Perl
To do this the, you can use the command below:
perl -e "print crypt('yourpassword','xy'),\"\n\";"2
This command will create just your password. In your e-mail you should mention the username you want to use.
Creating A Password With Python
You can do the same with python by using the command below:
python -c "import crypt; print crypt.crypt('password', 'xy')"
In this case as well, just the shadowed form of your password will be given as output. In your e-mail you should mention the username you want to use.
Pardus subversion repositories
The development process in Pardus is maintained via a Subversion version control system. Subversion is an open source version tracking system. Its a development infrastructure which makes it possible for more than one application developer to work together unconcerned about demolishing each others' changes. Thanks to this, any single software's development process can be tracked backwards, the changes made gradually can be watched and can be easily returned to any version of a particular time.
At the moment there are two subversion repositories we use in Pardus structure.
Pardus repository
Pardus repository is the one in which the products being developed within the project are kept. All the software developed for Pardus is kept in Pardus repository. The repository is at the address https://svn.pardus.org.tr/pardus. It keeps the source package repositories where the software's PiSi packages are found.
More information on the Pardus repository can be found in the document Pardus Depo Politikası (Pardus Repository Policy).
Hierarchy of repository directories
Each Pardus subversion repository has the hierarchy of directories detailed below.
There are three main directories in a repository: trunk, tags and repos.
Trunk is the directory in which continuous work is performed.
Each project module (document, Web pages, software projects, etc.) has its own directory under trunk/.
Tags directory is the place where, for any module, the work done under trunk is tagged and copied to. Within this directory, there exist 3 directories.
* tags/RELEASE/: This is the directory which software (or modules) use to tag their own version numbers. For example, version 0.2 of tasma is tagged in tags/RELEASE/tasma-0.2 directory. * tags/BLACKHOLE/: Its a blackhole the projects for which the development is stopped (because of the lack of a developer to deal with it or no more need for that project) are ``thrown into. When the projects in it are desired to be used again, they are copied under trunk/ and worked on. * tags/RESTRUCTURED/: Its the directory in which the module is put if the software (or module) undergoes a total restructuring and if the old files will not be used anymore. For example, ``abc project which was restarted to be written on 28th May 2005 is moved under tags/RESTRUCTURED/abc-2005-05-28/.
Repos is a directory in which developers can advance their work in an experimental nature without disturbing the other developers working on the same module under trunk. The developer can proceed her/his experimental work by creating her/his own directory under repos/.
(As a rule which is valid only for packeges repository, the documents related with this project are found under repos/doc directory.)
Using subversion
A very detailed user's manual3 is available. Besides that book, information about the project can be reached from the frequently asked questions page4 on the own Web site5 of Subversion project. In this section frequently needed commands for practical usage are tried to be told by examples.
How do I check if I have subversion on my system?
As the quickest way to see if you have Subversion in your system or not, you can refer to the output of ``svn --version command. It's a good sign if you see something like this:
ozan@laptop:~$ svn --version svn, version 1.5.3 (r33570) compiled Oct 20 2008, 16:58:55 Copyright (C) 2000-2008 CollabNet. Subversion is open source software, see http://subversion.tigris.org/ This product includes software developed by CollabNet (http://www.Collab.Net/). The following repository access (RA) modules are available: * ra_neon : Module for accessing a repository via WebDAV (DeltaV) protocol using Neon. - handles 'http' schema - handles 'https' schema * ra_svn : Module for accessing a repository using the svn network protocol. - with Cyrus SASL authentication - handles 'svn' schema * ra_local : Module for accessing a repository on local disk. - handles 'file' schema ozan@laptop:~$
If it doesn't exist, from http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html you can have the package prepared for your distribution or operating system and install it. To our knowledge, all of the general Linux distributions, including Pardus, has subversion (svn) packages prepackaged.
== What is a repository? A repository is a disk area on which the last version, all the versions prior to the last version and the changes between versions of the software package(s) every developer works on, information including their user, date and cause are stored which can be reached by several methods.
How can I see what directories exist in a repository?
A single repository may contain more than one directory in it. The hierarchy of a repository is just like the inside of a directory on a disk. So, you can browse without having to copy all the repository to your disk and just get a view of the part you want to work on or have a look at. The list of directories and files in a repository is displayed using ``svn ls repository_address format:
ozan@laptop ~ $ svn ls http://svn.pardus.org.tr/uludag branches/ tags/ trunk/ ozan@laptop ~ $ svn ls http://svn.pardus.org.tr/uludag/trunk CD-image/ PolicyKit-kde/ PyNotify/ artwork/ baselayout/ .. .. ozan@laptop ~ $ svn ls http://svn.pardus.org.tr/uludag/trunk/PolicyKit-kde CMakeLists.txt COPYING TODO data/ dbus-qt3-backport/ po/ src/
How do I get a copy of a directory in the repository?
In order to create a copy(checkout) of the repository svn co command is used. Once the copy is created, no more processing is performed on this command copy.
ozan@laptop ~ $ svn co http://svn.pardus.org.tr/uludag A uludag/trunk A uludag/trunk/PyNotify A uludag/trunk/PyNotify/.project A uludag/trunk/PyNotify/libPyNotify A uludag/trunk/PyNotify/libPyNotify/genericDevice.py A uludag/trunk/PyNotify/libPyNotify/genericActions.py A uludag/trunk/PyNotify/libPyNotify/__init__.py A uludag/trunk/PyNotify/libPyNotify/iconFinder.py A uludag/trunk/PyNotify/icons .. ..
You can treat the repository as if its an URI. By doing so, you can get any subdirectory in the repository without checking out the whole repository:
ozan@laptop ~ $ svn co http://svn.pardus.org.tr/uludag/trunk/comar A comar/belgeler A comar/belgeler/comar-polkit.txt A comar/belgeler/comar-python-types.txt A comar/belgeler/PardusInitSystem.lyx A comar/belgeler/Boot.Loader.txt A comar/belgeler/ComarMimarisi.lyx A comar/belgeler/comar-dbus.txt A comar/belgeler/teknik-sunum.odp A comar/belgeler/PardusAcilisSistemi.lyx A comar/belgeler/temel-sunum.odp A comar/betikler A comar/betikler/pppoe.py .. ..
How do I know if my local copy is up-to-date or not?
You have to update the copy of the repository you have periodically with svn update command in order to know about the last changes and to track the last version. If you call the command alone, all the files and the subdirectories in the current working directory will be updated recursively:
ozan@laptop trunk $ pwd /home/ozan/pardus/uludag/trunk ozan@laptop trunk $ svn update G comar/mudur/bin/mudur.py U comar/belgeler/comar-polkit.txt A comar/belgeler/Boot.Loader.txt U comar/comar/ChangeLog U comar/comar/src/dbus.c U comar/zorg/data/DriversDB U comar/api/setup.py A comar/api/examples/qt3 A comar/api/examples/qt3/mainform.ui A comar/api/examples/qt3/app.py A comar/api/examples/qt3/Makefile A comar/api/examples/qt4 A comar/api/examples/qt4/mainform.ui A comar/api/examples/qt4/app.py A comar/api/examples/qt4/Makefile U pisi/ChangeLog .. .. Updated to revision 20808.
You can also append the file or the directory you want to update at the end of the command:
ozan@laptop branches $ svn update buildfarm-devel U buildfarm-devel/templates.py U buildfarm-devel/report.py Updated to revision 20808.
What does the capital letters beside the file names mean?
While you are working with SVN and during processes such as updating and searching, as in the previous example, the signs by the files are to inform you about what kind of a change related with the next file is performed.
One of the letters U, D, A, C or G may be found by files:
* A Added * D Deleted * U Updated * G Merged (the last update you got from the repository is merged with the file you are performing local changes) * C Conflicted (the last update you got from the repository is conflicted with the changes you performed localy)
I modified some files, what shall I do now?
You can use svn status when you want to see the local modifications you did on a working copy. This command can run with an URI you add to the end of it as all the other commands. Below its seen that a file is added to, a file is deleted from and two files are changed regarding the last updated copy of the repository:
ozan@laptop $ svn status A COMARd/csl/degisiklik D COMARd/csl/loader.py M COMARd/COMARValue.py M comar-call/rpc.c ozan@laptop $ svn status COMARd/csl/COMARValue.py M COMARd/COMARValue.py ozan@laptop $
Also, you can learn what you particularly changed in changed files with svn diff command:
ozan@laptop $ svn diff comar-call/rpc.c Index: comar-call/rpc.c =================================================================== --- comar-call/rpc.c (revision 158) +++ comar-call/rpc.c (working copy) @@ -146,6 +146,7 @@ if (len == 0) break; if (len == -1) { puts("connection broken too soon"); + //totally different change break; } printf("RECV[%s]\n\n", buf); ozan@laptop $
I added a new file but there's a question mark beside it!
While you are working on the copy of the repository when you would like to create a new file, you should inform your local copy about your intention to add that file to the repository with the help of svn add (it has sister commands such as svn copy, svn del as well). Let's explain why there's such a need as follows: Let's assume that you would like to compile and test an application which is in your local copy. In this case, some files that you don't prefer to send to the main repository will be created in your work copy such as Makefiles and *.m4 files which only you have any need for. In such cases, it will be very advantageous and convenient if the files added locally are not added to the repository as well, because when you change the source code of the software, recompile it and decide to send it to the repository at a proper time, you know that the other files are not going to the repository. With svn add, you add to the repository the files you want to add. svn del will not mentioned again.
ozan@laptop $ svn status ozan@laptop $ touch newscript.csl ozan@laptop $ svn status ? newscript.csl ozan@laptop $ svn add newscript.csl A newscript.csl ozan@laptop $ svn status A newscript.csl ozan@laptop $
How do I revert my local modifications?
You can revert the modifications you made using svn revert command anytime you like:
ozan@laptop $ svn status A COMARd/csl/thechange D COMARd/csl/loader.py M COMARd/COMARValue.py M comar-call/rpc.c ozan@laptop $ svn revert comar-call/rpc.c Reverted 'comar-call/rpc.c' ozan@laptop $ svn status A COMARd/csl/thechange D COMARd/csl/loader.py M COMARd/COMARValue.py ozan@laptop $
Its also possible to revert all of the files to their original state recursively:
ozan@laptop $ svn revert . -R Reverted 'COMARd/csl/thechange' Reverted 'COMARd/csl/loader.py' Reverted 'COMARd/COMARValue.py' ozan@laptop $ svn status ozan@laptop $
I Want To Send The Files I Changed
If you are sure of the last condition of the files you changed, you can use ``svn commit command in order to transmit your changes to the repository. By using this command -as its true for all the rest- you can send to the repository a single file, a single directory and what is under it or all the changes you made. When you run ``svn commit, svn -using your preferred text editor- opens a file for you with the changes you made listed in it in order to make sure others see what you changed and to enable your changes to be logged for backward tracking in the repository. To alter the text editor opened as the preferred one you can make use of the environment variable that svn uses named SVN_EDITOR:
~/work/[...]/COMARd/csl/sample $ SVN_EDITOR="vi" svn commit
~/work/[...]/COMARd/csl/sample $ SVN_EDITOR="mcedit" svn commit
~/work/[...]/COMARd/csl/sample $ SVN_EDITOR="kwrite" svn commit
As soon as you write the changes to the text editor, save what you wrote and close the editor, svn will begin to send the changes in your local copy to the repository.
Other commands
You can run Subversion to learn Subversion commands as well. svn help command_name feeds you back with detailed information about command_name while svn help serves you with a list of commands you can use:
ozan@laptop branches $ svn help
usage: svn <subcommand> [options] [args] Subversion command-line client, version 1.5.3. Type 'svn help <subcommand>' for help on a specific subcommand. Type 'svn --version' to see the program version and RA modules or 'svn --version --quiet' to see just the version number.
Most subcommands take file and/or directory arguments, recursing on the directories. If no arguments are supplied to such a command, it recurses on the current directory (inclusive) by default.
Available subcommands: add blame (praise, annotate, ann) cat changelist (cl) checkout (co) cleanup commit (ci) copy (cp) delete (del, remove, rm) diff (di) export help (?, h) import info list (ls) lock log merge mergeinfo mkdir move (mv, rename, ren) propdel (pdel, pd) propedit (pedit, pe) propget (pget, pg) proplist (plist, pl) propset (pset, ps) resolve resolved revert status (stat, st) switch (sw) unlock update (up)
Subversion is a tool for version control. For additional information, see http://subversion.tigris.org/ ozan@laptop branches $
In order to have detailed information about a Subversion command, call svn help with the command name:
ozan@laptop branches $ svn help add add: Put files and directories under version control, scheduling them for addition to repository. They will be added in next commit. usage: add PATH...
Valid options: --targets ARG : pass contents of file ARG as additional args -N [--non-recursive] : obsolete; try --depth=files or --depth=immediates --depth ARG : limit operation by depth ARG ('empty', 'files', 'immediates', or 'infinity') -q [--quiet] : print nothing, or only summary information --force : force operation to run --no-ignore : disregard default and svn:ignore property ignores --auto-props : enable automatic properties --no-auto-props : disable automatic properties --parents : add intermediate parents
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That's my thought process too, especially since he may get some run at SG and play significant minutes this year. His Handle is an A I wish I knew what caused so many turnovers and why his FG% are so horrid. Hard to choose from dribbling, passing, inside, or jump shot.
Handles = Ball Handling + Passing... so he probably has a really high passing score with a mediocre handling.
I would go eithe rJump Shot or Dribbling
Ray Allen, Shareef, Ratliff, Robinson, Archibald all tradable and on the block
Only untouchable: Frank Williams
After being abused constantly by the Mavs and Spurs last season, I'm hoping to enact some revenge on my Texas rivals this season.
Emeka Okafor - Al Jefferson - Carmelo Anthony - Manu Ginobili - Damon Stoudamire
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3 former Raptors from last season are starting for the Rockets this season. All were acquired for 'Sheed along with Drew Gooden.
There are a lot of exciting teams this year. I hope I can make the necessary moves to be one of them.
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Currently I'm doing neither so I'd be fine with either direction, I'm not good enough to win now, and I don't have my 03 first (if you have a package that could return either that would be preferred) so my alternative is being just good enough to keep my playoff streak alive and get a more solidified future (picks/young assets) from un-needed pieces (Shareef, Ratliff, Robinosn). I'd like to pawn off everything other than Allen really (pieces I could use to get a 2nd star or rebuild with), but if someone blows me away with Allen I won't hesitate.
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dude i know, i was so busy during the first draft that i didnt even look at player stats or anything.. i just thought of the top 20 best players of the decade and saw that Chauncey wasnt picked and went with him... if i had gotten andre miller or t brandon, i feel like my team would have been so much better
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Interesting pick by Miami. Navarro will give perimeter scoring. Wonder if he will be moved to SG.
@HRSkipBayless: Has some strong words concerning the Rocket's draft. Stephen A giving teams pass on their drafts. Nothing gets by me.
Manu is Skip Bayless's favorite player. But I will have a strong rebuttal on my interview.
@HRSkipBayless: Said he was a great player, just not right pick for rockets. Can't wait to hear rebuttle.
@HRStephenASmith:Thanks to Spike Lee (rbow) for his contribution to the Draft First Take.... BUT IT AIN'T OVER YET... More shouting between me and Skip. Plenty to talk about regarding Nets and Clippers picks!
I've got 3 2nd round picks, and I don't want any of them. PM me if interested.
Strong pick by the Knicks. Varejao will be a good backup for 4 years.
lol your entire team will expire the same year! lol
Celtics also wouldn't mind getting back into the first round.
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Clippers also looking for another 1st for points.
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Rucha Deshpande (from left), Neil Chen and Orian Shkrobut measure pH and water temperature of Salt Creek at Waterfall Glen as part of the District 86 Science Inquiry and Research class. | Photo courtesy Mark Wollschlaeger
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During his State of the Union speech, President Barack Obama stressed the importance of science, technology, engineering and math for students. District 86 science teachers Peter Pintz and Mark Wollschlaeger saw that need as well.
After attending a conference two years ago and realizing District 86 should be a state leader in the sciences, the duo offered Science Inquiry and Research for the second consecutive summer at Hinsdale South High School. The class consists of hands-on experiments and research for the 27 students who signed up for the seven-week summer course.
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The class includes individual and group projects. Students recently took a five-hour hike to Waterfall Glen Forest Preserve to make their own observations and look for intriguing experiments.
"The experiments ranged from water quality, algae changes, different species of insects and the study of human impact at the site," Wollschlaeger said. "The students are not reading what other scientists did through a book, they're actually going out and learning science."
First-year student and Hinsdale Central junior Katherine Kiang was unable to take the class last year, but jumped at the opportunity this year.
"I like that we can go out on our own," Kiang said. "The teachers guided us, but didn't tell us which way to go. We get a lot of independence, as opposed to a more structured summer school course."
Both Pintz and Wollschlaeger hope the increased interest in the course will lead to its expansion into the normal school schedule.
"This is the way science education is headed," Pintz said. "We want to support it, get more kids into it and continue to grow the program."


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Here we are, in an endless war. We have extremists on both sides, "hardscopers" or what I would call "purist snipers" vs the quickscopers. I've found solace in the fact that I can utilize both regular scoping and quickscoping when necessary. Although, I still could use some practice in regards to quickscoping.
This video features extremists from both sides. CMDR Dddhawsekesher (world renown quickscoper) and Lt. Kanga ( A purist sniper) (Both characters quite possibly fictional) They argue their reasoning for their taste of using the sniper rifle.
Is there room for both? I've adapted and acquired the necessary skills to use a sniper in more versatile enviornments. However, I will always prefer staying back and using the sniper rifle in a role where I think it's the strongest.
While I don't understand pure quickscopers, or at least their hate for people who use the sniper rifle in a normal manner, I can at least respect the way they choose to play the game. ( I expect the same respect back, usually non existant)
However, the term "hardscoper" leaves a bit of disgust in my mouth and I'd like for that term to be buried, never to be found again. Respect is a dish best served both ways, so let us all unite? Ok cheesy.. and it will never happen. As long as "quickscoping" is a part of the game. Thoughts?
Easy. Quickscoping is flipping stupid and anyone who does it most of the time has a bloted ego. "hardscoping" isn't real. You can't give a name to something that already has a name and that name is SNIPING. Anyone who whines about "hardscoping" is stupid.
Ahh, you fancy the purist sniper side, you'd get along with LT. Kanga. I agree with you on the term "hardscope". I hate that word haha, like you said it's just sniping. I lean more toward the purist side myself, but have learned the way of the quickscope, but it just doesn't benefit me using that technique 24/7. I will always do better lining up my shot, preferably in the face. It's a silly world.
It is a silly world when SMGs are the best long range weapons and snipers are the best CQB weapons.
I enjoy sniping from time to time. I have no respect for QSers though, I see them dancing around with tacs next to them and take the oppertunity to level my gun up and get easy kills (or troll them with a throwing knife kill if I'm bored). I've pulled off a few QS' when bumping into an enemy while on the move but it's more of a 'panic scope' if that makes sense.
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However, the term "hardscoper" leaves a bit of disgust in my mouth and I'd like for that term to be buried, never to be found again. Respect is a dish best served both ways, so let us all unite? Ok cheesy.. and it will never happen. As long as "quickscoping" is a part of the game. Thoughts?
I don't quickscope but how is "hardscoping" really the way snipers are meant to be used? You're either a mobile scout sniper, and/or you camp in a building with either a Bouncing Betty or a Claymore covering your back, sniping people off from around 50m to 200m away. Snipers pick people off in the order of miles using ghillie suits adapted to substantial cover waiting for their kills for days on end if need be.
hardscoping is using the sniper rifle the way its supposed to be used, zooming in tracking your target and taking them out. quickscopers started that word to try and make fun of the person using the sniper rifle the right way and owning them so they came up with that term to try and make themselves feel better. in all actuality the hardscoper is the one thats the better sniper because he is actually sniping, cheapscoping is just what it is a cheap exploit. a sniper rifle is for long shots picking people off from the other side of the map not that nonsense being a foot away from me and bam head shot! osk. so hardscoping is sniping so yes thats the way its supposed to be used.
I know the definitions of the terms. The "hardscoping" sniping seen in MW3 isn't actually what happens in the military anyway, for those who relate to realism. I wouldn't bother trying to quickscope because my sniper doesn't have much ammo (AS50). Hitmarkers are bad enough, let alone DMH/FS AND trying to quisckscope wasting ammo. I tend to play as the mobile scout sniper.
None of the maps promote sniper marksmanship in MW3. I've always wondered how COD4 maps would fare and you might see more traditional sniper usage.
While players aren't "supposed" to quickscope, you're not "supposed" to run with a launcher on your back that weighs 35kg/80lb either.
alot of the maps have long lines of sight, buildings etc. that are good for sniping. firefighters go around with 100+lbs of gear on them so wether you are supposed to or not is irrelevant when you start getting head shots with a launcher then the problem arises. i dont understand this "realism" arguement, i know its a game, its a game about guns and it isnt no sci fi game where they hae laser blasters or waffle guns. its the gun doing something its not supposed to do or meant to do. its like if i started to pick you off from half the map away with a headshot using a 44 magnum or something. a sniper rifle isnt meant to catch a osk headshot when im right in front of you. in the military most snipers have spotters and are engaging targets that are often miles away, i know that isnt going to happen in mw3. but cheapscoping is one of the worst things about this game, to each his own.....
Depends what you mean by long lines of sight I guess. COD4 had Bog, Countdown, Pipeline and Overgrown to name a few good maps for sniping IMO. You could also do well with snipers in Backlot. I'm not so sure of any MW3 maps. I'm only considering non-DLC maps. I mean, my best map (non-DLC) according to Elite is Bakaara. I've finished in the top 3 as highest scorer in TDM a fair amount of times, sometimes first, but never with a sniper.
I do think the game mechanics could be improved so that snipers only excel at distance, while SMGs drop damage substantially over range. I've got people at sniping distances, by MW3 standards, with the MP7...
Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you. I don't think I stated once that "hardscoping" is the way it's supposed to be used. This is a game, and should be used however you want. I use both methods myself as I stated above. However, I lean slightly toward a strictly defensive play style in the game, as it makes more sense to me.
I just don't like the term "harscope" in general is all. I'm just using the sniper rifle in a way I see fit. My opinion had nothing to do with realism, it was strictly game related. More of an observation of how elitist quickscopers have so much hate for people who use the sniper rifle in any other way other than quickscoping.
I was referring to the guy in the video more than anything saying "hardscoping" is the way a sniper is meant to be used.
LMGs also have sway in this game despite having bipods.
I'm a traditional sniper user, I may accidentally quickscope when caught off guard with an enemy close by, but I wouldn't go round in matches intending to play that way.
I've not noticed any elitism from quickscopers on "hardscopers" but I have communications switched off (except from friends) so I'll only notice if they say something when their Gamertag appears underneath the HUD, but I won't hear what they say.
Ahh, I'm with you now man. I should take your advice on the mute button. =) Yeah I was just trying to present the extremists point of view from both regular snipers and quickscopers.
It was meant to be over the top and ridiculous to poke fun at the situation. I think some people thought these people were actually real, but it was just me doing an accent. I'll try to be more clear next time.
Watching your video can't help but notice your pistol shots. Looks like another player with "trigger finger" or is it. Also I keep hearing this about running around with an 80 lb launcher on your back. Not that far fetched as if you knew the military the marine force recon runs around with an eighty pound pack on their back. Actually once it gets wet which it will when you perform beach landings like they do it gets up near 100 lbs. And then you run jump crawl whatever it is into combat with it. I also worked with a guy that at 65 yrs old still runs 10 miles a day with his 50 lb rucksack on his back. Granted he is insane shape for someone of his age.
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Watching your video can't help but notice your pistol shots. Looks like another player with "trigger finger" or is it. Also I keep hearing this about running around with an 80 lb launcher on your back. Not that far fetched as if you knew the military the marine force recon runs around with an eighty pound pack on their back. Actually once it gets wet which it will when you perform beach landings like they do it gets up near 100 lbs. And then you run jump crawl whatever it is into combat with it. I also worked with a guy that at 65 yrs old still runs 10 miles a day with his 50 lb rucksack on his back. Granted he is insane shape for someone of his age.
I don't know about the US Marines since it's not my country. But couldn't a similar argument be made with the GIGN in using shorter range weapons at much longer distances, since they appear to be the world's best elite armed forces group who specialise in marksmanship?
Edit: Overlooked the Recon bit. Well, I don't know much about the requirements for Recon but I assume they're equivalent to Commando trained. So, in that sense, they could carry that. Still looks funny seeing someone run aroudn a map for 10+ minutes with a shotgun with an 80lb launcher on his back though.
It's a silenced G18 automatic machine pistol, not a handgun.
No it was a P99.
Redneck is correct, it was the P99. It's my favorite pistol for sure. It features the highest firecap out of all the pistols at 1200rpm. It also does the most damage out of all the other lower caliber pistols, capable of dishing out 49 damage up close. Low visual recoil, makes it pretty easy to manage. However, having a silencer on it makes it kinda hard for longer distance shots as it blocks part of the iron sites.
The only thing I don't like about the weapon in is that it has the longest drop time out of all the pistols. So you have to be careful when you decide to switch back to your primary.
I really don't think that the Launchers can be brought into the realism vs playability debate. Launchers are meant to be carried on a soldier's back. Here is one in practice. There is also a video of a Marine using a Javelin against a Sniper. Feel free to post up a video of a Marine quickscoping with a 30lb Sniper rifle.
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game. set. match.
I think we'll be waiting quite some time for that video.
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I really don't think that the Launchers can be brought into the realism vs playability debate. Launchers are meant to be carried on a soldier's back. Here is one in practice. There is also a video of a Marine using a Javelin against a Sniper. Feel free to post up a video of a Marine quickscoping with a 30lb Sniper rifle.
Good find. Didn't realise the Javelin was designed to be carried on the back like that. I was looking to join the (British) Army a while back and saw a picture of two Army infantrymen carrying the Javelin so assumed that was the only way. I don't know if the person pictured is Commando trained as this might have some bearing on the ability of carrying it easier.
The person pictured is Javelin trained. In the US military its not a random person carrying that weapon it is someone trained in its use and that is their job. Just like machine gunners will carry the LMG and basic rifleman will carry the M16 etc. quickscoping aside I'd like to see the video of some shooting the barret from the offhand or any other position without a rest. YOU can't do it. Way to big and heavy.
WOW, some uptight people. That video was well done. I tip my hat to you sir. Very well done indeed. Very funny.
Do another on different classes please. You made my day. I fear some dont see your humour though. Oh well
I think people in this thread, and in the game, need to remember something, ahem:
It's a friggin' video game. Sure, some logic is nice, but COD is, and will always be, an ARCADE shooter, not a real-life simulation.
That being said, sniper rifles, machine pistols, [throwing] knifes, and yes, tubes in their various forms, all belong on the COD field of battle, and their uses are not limited to their "true" or "real-life" intentions and uses.
Now, run along and kill some foo's how you see fit.
I geuss I'll bump this forum. I (personally) use snipers for both hardscoping and quickscoping. I just think that quicksoping is just a little extra challenge that a lot of people make a big deal of. The only guns that are completely unfair/nooby for quickscoping are the Barret 50 Cal and RSASS (Everyone know it's a bad*ss *sshole as RSASS is rightfully named). Also, I play MW3 on wii, even though I really want an XBOX, (I thankfully have a CCP) and playing wiimote + nunchuk is very hard to qs without ACOG scope. If you don't believe me, try it. Now about the matter of the javelin being an extremely heavy missle launcher, in my opinion, on MW3 it's (obviously) the heaviest launcher. It's not exactly real, but at the same time it is real. I mean, come on. Carrying an 80+ lbs. weapon with you with another extra pounds of explosives in it that blow up is sort of hard to imagine. CoD makes it seem like a piece of pie, running around with something like that. As CylonNumber6 said, it's jsut an arcade game.