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Specs of next generation Xbox supposedly leaked, includes everything and the kitchen sink
Specifications have been leaked for the 360's successor.
With E3 approaching closer as each day passes, there's going to be more and more salt being thrown at consumers from sources who wish to either leak valid details about Microsoft's next generation Xbox console, or stir up false rumour. The latest information comes from VGleaks, who doesn't have a significant track record, but has published detailed articles surrounding the Playstation 4, WiiU and Xbox.
So what's been said about the next Xbox that's believed to succeed the current generation of hardware - the Xbox 360? Well, to cut it short, we'll be looking at an 8-core X64 chip running at 1.6GHz, 8GB DDR RAM, USB 3.0 and a 50GB 6x Blu-ray player to leave DVD behind.
The specifications are actually detailed at some length:
CPU - using the x64 Architecture, 8 CPU cores, each running at 1.6 gigahertz (GHz), will be powering the best games available with each thread sporting 32KB L1 instruction and data caches. Each individual module of four CPU cores has a 2MB L2 cache (with a total of 4MB L2 between them). If that wasn't enough, each core has one fully independent hardware thread with no shared execution process and all threads can issue two instructions per clock.
GPU - Utilising a custom D3D11.1 class 800MHz graphics processor, the next generation Xbox would boast 12 shader cores, providing a total of 768 threads. Each thread can perform a single scalar multiplication and addition operation (MADD) per clock cycle. When at peak performance, the GPU can effectively issue 1.2 trillion floating-point operations per second. Pretty neat, eh? Lastly, High-fidelity Natural User Interface (NUI) sensor is always present.
Storage / Memory - 8GB of DDR3 RAM will be available on-board with 32MB of embedded SRAM (with a combined total peak bandwidth output of 170GB/sec). Hard drive for multimedia and other content, and of course the 50GB 6x Blu-ray player.
Networking - As expected, Gigabit Ethernet and WiFi as standard.
The following will aso be sported by the console, should information in the leak be accurate:
- Move engines
- Image, video, and audio codecs
- Kinect multichannel echo cancellation (MEC) hardware
- Cryptography engines for encryption and decryption, and hashing
If the above specifications are true and the leak is accurate, Microsoft will be packing some serious gear in the next generation of its console. The Xbox 360 has enjoyed a healthy lifecycle (excluding the teething issues and RRODs), which the company will undoubtedly hope to replicate with the next refresh.
The inclusion of an NUI sensor sounds as though Kinect will be implemented deeper into the console, which is to be expected with Microsoft pushing more into sensor technology (with its Research division trialing projector visual experiences). This should also open up Kinect gameplay to all potential consumers who will pick one of these beauties up, potentially leading to more games being produced.
The leak will also please those who make use of a WiFi network at home (or in the office). Connecting the video game console to the Internet with built-in wireless should provide a more stable experience online, especially since the current adapters perform poorly. The gigabit interface will enable those who enjoy streaming media to make the most of available bandwidth.
We're pretty excited to see just what Microsoft has to announce at E3, and we're sure you all are too. How the next Xbox will further integrate with both Windows and Windows Phone will reveal just where the company is planning to take its three-screens vision.
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Micfur says:
I'm really looking foward to the next generation of consoles. The next X-Box and Playstation look like they're shaping up really well. Lets see if they both release in a decent time frame. Having to wait a year for the PS3 was tough. But I really thing this time around Sony will release first.
Z10YkakPES says:
Sony made a statement that they will wait till MS make first move so...
Big Supes says:
I'm surprised Sony are releasing another PS after the piece of junk that is the PS3.
webby7 says:
To be fair, it has now overtaken the Xbox in world wide sales despite being released a year later. This leaves the 360 behind Nintendo and Sony for the second generation in a row. But don't let facts get in the way of your bullshit. Fanboys gonna fanboy.
Needless to say the 360 has still been a massive success, rrod issues aside, and I look forward to the release of the next one.
JasonH81 says:
Sorry, but that's shipped, not sold. XBox is way ahead in US and close enough to PS3 in the UK. It never had a chance in Japan. And game sales reflect that the 360 is console of choice. I have both, but I definitely prefer my 360. It has consistently been the better platform for multi-plat titles, and performance is what really counts in the end.... #fanboyrantdone
Paul Acevedo says:
falcon304 says:
Specs don't matter. The only thing that matters hardware wise is what's standard in every SKU, ie - hard drives, maybe a Kinect? What really matters is the UI, services, and launch window games.
Aaron M says:
I agree. MS, Sony, and Nintendo know by now that specs alone won't push people to upgrade anymore. MS needs to deliver something that really differentiates this from the 360. My hope is that it involves taking SmartGlass to a new level with the new hardware.
jonathan sink says:
I would love for them to make use of Bluetooth. It would be awesome to turn on and off Xbox with my phone through smartglass.
q21701 says:
Agreed. I need my phone to replicate all functions, including power on.
MorganRW says:
Microsoft already uses a form of bluetooth for the controllers. If you can wake up the console with them then it should already be capable of starting with smartglass. What I would prefer is powering and shutting down the console with voice using Kinect. Also give us the ability to use the xbox to control the rest of our components by having it communicate to IR repeaters. Essentially what I am looking for is the xBox to replicate what the Harmony remotes can do to control everything. Like Harmony, you would configure xBox by inputting the make and model number of your AV receiver, TV, cable box, etc and all the remote commands would be loaded for each device. For instance, say xBox, watch television. xBox would power up, then fire a command to the TV to turn it on, fire a command to the audio receiver and select the source of TV, fire a command to turn on the cable box. Then you could change channels by voice commands. Xbox - Channel FOX, ESPN, NBC, etc. How awesome would it be to say xbox, goodnight and have it power everything down as you head off to bed? I am sure this will only be a dream but this is what I want.
JPDVM2014 says:
Well, thanks for the description. Now if the next Xbox doesn't do that, I'm going to be severely disappointed. Lol.
jonathan sink says:
Unfortunately you can't control power with smartglass which was my complaint. I honestly could care less about voice commands. That said it should be an option because I'm sure a lot of people do. As far as ir controls, that can be done with an app and after market sensor as its available for iPhone just needs someone to do the same for WP. Again having said things built in would be great. Giving all the dif manufacturers it would be up to them most likely to add those features themselves. Or Microsoft could in a surface phone. Either way I'm excited to see exactly what the new system will bring!
jes1888 says:
Right now u can turn of the Xbox thru Kinect, say "Xbox settings" and while in the settings say "Xbox turn off" it's kinda odd why they put that command there
ColeHarris says:
Specs do matter, if specs stay the same games stay the same. You'll be eating your words when they release crysis 16 or whatever.
WinFan1 says:
this is fantastic if true and am looking forward to upgrading.
WPSteve says:
We need to catch up to the hardcore PC Gaming world! Go Nextbox! Day 1 buyer here.
Sergio0694 says:
The day the new Xbox Will be out, the new nVidia GK110 GPUs will be out, and a single VGA with one of those GPU will be almost as powerful as a GTX690.
PCs will always be hundreds of times more faster than a console :)
jonathan sink says:
Yep which is why I would love a console that had function and customizations of a PC. To be able to play all my PC games and switch over to Xbox would be amazing! I however will not be holding my breathe for that lol!
Marcin Winkowski says:
This specs are worse than mid-en PC bought today ;].
apocacrux says:
It may have the same specs a mid range PC but a console is built for very specific purposes allowing it to use the hardware to its full potential. Meaning it can play any game that the a very high end gaming PC can play, without issue.
Wacft says:
Damn didnt know mid level computers had 8 cores....
amcalexandre says:
Yeshki says:
Its not the number of cores that matter. Especially seeing as this an entry level cpu.
pbroy says:
It's not the size that matters, it's the way you use it. ;)
SilentWolf_Aus says:
It's just the AMD bulldozer architecture where the cores are broken in two, and individual "cores" are therefore pretty weak. Also it has no L3 chache and its clocked low, so yeah expect mid range performance.
Sergio0694 says:
Yeah, exactly. No L3 cache, but the most important thing is: 1.6Ghz? Really?
Also, every benchmark can confirm that a good quad core CPU, like an i5 or even better an i7 (which has 8 logic cores due to the hyperthreading) with an higher clock speed (3.8-4.2Ghz) is waaaaay more powerful than a 8 cores with such a low clock :)
The GPU in the rumors isn't so good, either...
Daniel Drew1 says:
They dont, but they run between 2-5 times faster on each core.
1.6 Ghz is an absolute joke, thats the same speed as the old pentium 4s...
Agent-P says:
And here I thought I would be able to resist buying the new Xbox and hang on to my 360 a bit longer. But if these rumours are true, then I'll have no choice but to upgrade. I want all those new features! (especially the Blu-Ray player)
MTLheaDRicardo says:
Seems like both Sony and Microsoft are backing the big guns for this new console race!
Solidstate89 says:
I really hate that Microsoft uses x64 as their architecture designation. If these slides are to be believed, than what they will actually be using ix x86_64 as the 64-bit is just the amd64 extension set added to x86.
The only x64 would be Itanium which is designated as ia64. I know it's a bit pedantic, but it's sitll always annoyed me. Calling an OS x64/64bit is fine, but there is actually a big difference between x64 and x86_64. One runs Windows, and the other doesn't, for starters.
tgr42 says:
Except Itanium is totally irrelevant. x64 is synonymous with x86_64 now and it's well past time to get used to it.
funkyGeneral says:
It play game good. Me like.
Mantikos says:
x64 is a standard now (AMD64 and Intel's 64 bt externsions are now cross licensed) Itanium is IA64...so x64 is correct terminology
Mantikos says:
Read up - should help within the first 2 paras
Solidstate89 says:
That doesn't actually say anything that I already didn't, mainly that despite being called x64 by several companies, it's still x86_64. That doesn't change facts.
zeronoise says:
I know what you mean. I have the same thing about "4G LTE" when it's fact that anything 4G has to be 100Mbps+ and LTE means Long Term Evolution, in other words long term evolution of 3G because you can't evolve something that doesn't exist yet. Stupid marketing /rant
AriesDog says:
Every couple of months another "definitive" rumor. Just ignore these until E3, please.
Tjalsma says:
I agree. Everyone should have learned their lesson with the pre-Wii U "leaks".
q21701 says:
Its called a "Definite Maybe"
joeynox says:
Supposedly the ps4 will have similar specs but the gpu will be higher end and the ps4 will have 4gigs of ddr 5 I believe that's what I read.
Talbot690 says:
And the ps4 shoots lazers at your neighbors and does your homework and walks your dog and folds laundry
karelj says:
But I have two cats, not a dog. Am I screwed? Should I get an Xbox instead?
Chemilinski says:
But of course!! As the American adverts put it, "It only does everything."
J88NY R says:
I read somewhere... think it was europegamer... They were both basically idential in spec, except for the memory, Xbox has 8gb with 3gb dedicated to the system @ DDR3. PS3 has 4GB with 512MB reserved for the system @DDR5.
They both will have the same 1.6ghz 8 core cpu, however according to EUgamer the xbox will dedicate two cores to system tasks.
Both will be using a graphics chip that is basically a 7970m
Solidstate89 says:
No such thing as DDR5. DDR4 has barely been released, they obviously can't use a DDR specification that hasn't been finalized, much less released yet.
And no, GDDR5 is not DDR5.
erasure25 says:
I love my PS3 but I wonder if Sony will promote a new storage technology with their PS4.
Saiyaku says:
I remember the cell chip featured in the ps3 was TEH FUTURE and a thousand times more advanced than anything in existence and yadda yadda. Several years later, you still haven't learned a single thing about marketing, fanboyism and other retarded claims.
joeynox says:
All I care about is that Microsoft starts making some high quality games and that they let rare be rare. We need killer instinct, banjo kazooie, conker. We need rare to wow us again.
blackprince says:
Killer Instinct would be killer
tissotti says:
Unfortunately Rare of today has nothing to do with Rare of before. You can't and should not expect anything from them.
The core team had already left before Xbox Perfect Dark and now the Rare has zero to do with the Rare that made the N64 games.
MastrMeatWad says:
killer instinct, the title, was taken be some lame tv show years ago and rare, ms, was denied the ability to use it. Yeah, just wrong.
I know the systems will be great, but it is exclusives and great titles that will make or break it. Xbox has a lot of exclusives, but recently they are mostly Kinect titles.... ;-)
I would like to see more exclusives that are not just Kinect. I own all systems just for exclusives, but this next go round i may only own the wii-u and one other.
jhoff80 says:
I'd be shocked if this was true, and the main reason is the RAM spec. I mean, sure, RAM isn't that expensive right now, but jumping up to 8GB would be literally 4 times that of the just released Wii U. That makes it seem like overkill to me (unless the device's dashboard / OS has drastically jumped up in footprint), and so I think it's just wishful thinking.
darth3pio says:
Shocked? Why is that? On PC, x64 allows for full use of more than the 4GB limit of 32bit, and by extension all software and games built for x64 can too. It's not necessarily the dashboard that makes use of that but the games that will make use of that over the lifespan of the console.
jhoff80 says:
The 360 has 512 MB of RAM. The whole idea behind a console is standardized hardware that games are directly optimized for. Besides that, the 'OS' has a much smaller footprint than something like Windows, so that smaller amount goes a longer way.
If you've got a console game that needs 8GB of RAM, there's something wrong with your development process.
Menzlo says:
I'm betting the next console lets you run apps like Xbox Music in the background.
sluffmo says:
Playing games is maybe 50% of what I use my Xbox for. There are plenty of things that suffer from it having so little memory. Especially streaming video. Not to mention that one of the biggest complaints of developers is the lack of memory. Games like Skyrim have to split areas up more, and that means more time watching a loading screen. There are plenty of reasons to significantly increase the amount of memory on the new system.
jhoff80 says:
Even on the PC, where you can get 32GB these days for dirt cheap, Skyrim can't use more than 4GB of RAM.
Marcin Winkowski says:
Becouse its a 32bit console port ?
darth3pio says:
Marcin is correct, a 32bit port is not going to be able to use more than 4GB, the games have to be written specifically for 64bit, how this has worked up to this point is a separate executable is compiled and on a 64bit Windows OS it launches that second executable. Crysis 2 is one such game that does this. Crysis has had this all the way back to 2007. Heck a patch for the original Far Cry (2004) added support for 64bit systems. And then there is that mention from EA that certain Frostbite titles of 2013 will have 64bit systems as a minimum requirement. The more resources you have available the better you're game can look. And when you're likely to be stuck with a console for 5-7 years you kind of want to future proof it as best you can.
jhoff80 says:
I'm aware of the difference between 32 and 64-bit systems, but the point is that if one of the Tier 1 games doesn't even use more than 4GB on a PC, where the sheer number of configurations makes optimization for specific hardware very difficult, it seems even less likely that a console will have or need 4GB.
Like I said, all of these specs just reek of wishful thinking.
Paul Acevedo says:
I disagree. If you give developers 4 or 5 Gigs of RAM to work with, and all users are guaranteed to have that same amount of RAM, the devs will use it. This reported RAM amount is future proofing the console.
NAP51DMustang says:
remember that 8 years ago when the 360 was still in finishing stages of developement if not already in production (in a couple months will be the 8 year aniversy of the 360 announcement at the MTV music awards) that 512mb of ram was fairly standard in mid to high end pcs. right now they don't need it. in 8-10 years, they probably will.
b23h says:
The 360 has 512 MB of RAM. The whole idea behind a console is standardized hardware that games are directly optimized for. Besides that, the 'OS' has a much smaller footprint than something like Windows, so that smaller amount goes a longer way.
My understanding is that the new Xbox will be based on the Windows 8 kernel. There's a good chance that the Xbox will be part of the larger unified MS application ecosystem shared between the Windows 8/Windows Phone 8 stores.
Shantek says:
Keeping in mind we could be seeing a lot more multitasking.. They are trying to make it do everything after all, not just gaming..
spcdog says:
More memory = more/bigger textures = MOAR EYE CANDY. Win. :)
darth3pio says:
What I'm interested in is the PC specs in this thing... x64? Assuming it's true, maybe this is an attempt to deliver on that promise made to PC gamers back in 2010/2011, an increased focus on PC gaming which has so far been a flop. If both console and pc share the same architecture and hardware there's no reason not to deliver a better product to PC. And just maybe we'll get some of those console exclusives.
jonathan sink says:
Hahahaha I was thinking the exact opposite maybe now we will get some of those PC exclusives. Particularly a lot of those mmo's
darth3pio says:
That too, lol. Let's see how Microsofts contol is asserted. I was hoping for another Halo. Or a Read Dead 3... or a.... whatever else.
jcagga says:
Next Xbox might be my next PC gaming rig with keyboard and mouse hehe.
jlynnm350z says:
Yeah, but will it cut my grass?
Daniel_H_UK says:
Want! but will it have deaper Windows Phone Intergration with both 7.5/7.8 and WP8?
JonnieLasVegas says:
Very doubtful. They seem to be slowly doing the opposite. Hopefully they prove me wrong and are preparing something good. But I doubt it.
jgbstetson says:
Will this get jelly bean?
CaymanDreamin says:
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the worst question of 2013! (so far)
jgbstetson says:
Awww c'mon. Not worth a chuckle?
JonnieLasVegas says:
I lol'd
CaymanDreamin says:
OK, if it was a joke, then cheers. You should really put in some kind of emoticon that separates funny from stupid. Seen way too much of the latter in forums.
freestaterocker says:
I also thought it was funny.
SleepyTheDon says:
Sounds great but what is under the hood of the PS4? IJS
CaymanDreamin says:
Interaction with my Windows 8 PCs and phone is what's making me jump from a long history (16 years) in PlayStation's camp. Microsoft is building one hell of an ecosystem and I'm really looking forward to seeing the final specs.
Sulslim says:
After the XBLA service for Windows Phone - I don't have any plan to buy it )))
JonnieLasVegas says:
Good point!
KeegdnaB42 says:
Sounds about in line with what I was expecting. What I'm more interested in is the software side of things. Moving from Windows CE to NT will open up a lot of new capabilities, especially if it shares the entire core with Windows 8 and WP. The extra ram is probably less for individual game performance but rather multitasking. It'll be nice to finally have things like XBM streaming running in the background.
missionsparta says:
They throwing everything at Xbox is why it succeeds. Then Windows Phone gets an amazing effort for a few weeks and then half arse efforts for 4 months. The back to looking promising for two weeks, then back to status quo. Show this effort in WP and it won't be just us enthusiast touting this amazing OS.
JonnieLasVegas says:
Agreed. This is my main complaint right now. If Microsoft doesn't have faith in Windows Phone, why should we?
DaveGx says:
Why aren't they going with a slightly better gpu like Sony seems to be doing?
Breathing Underwater says:
It's still going to have better graphics and better functioning apps.
luiislp says:
Yeah Im guessing the same thing. :/ why ?
cashcar1979 says:
Wireless AC?
ncxcstud says:
With a bluray player, looks like I won't be getting a ps4 anytime soon. I've greatly preferred my Xbox 360 to my ps3. Both are good systems, but I won't jump into the ps4 until it goes to its inevitable slim model.
ade333 says:
I don't think these specs are real or at the very least, they (hopefully) aren't complete. Bluetooth? And I was really hoping to see zigbee.
venetasoft says:
I hope it will be silent !!!!
cdbstl76 says:
Breathing Underwater says:
The current one is silent
schlubadub says:
The slim models perhaps... the original 360's were like helicopters lifting off when the DVD drive was spinning like crazy during the game. The noise would get worse over time and I'd have to put weights on it, or wedge bits of paper in places to stop the rattling noises. The best thing MS every did was to allow us to copy the game to the HDD so that we no longer had to listen to the noise!
venetasoft says:
Maybe compatible with wp8 Apps ... :P ?
blackprince says:
David Ray says:
If it does come with the Blu-ray player I might have to finally drop my PS3.. I'd really like to take advantage of smartglass on my Surface.
JPDVM2014 says:
Seconded, blu ray is the only reason I keep my ps3 around. Can't remember the last time I played a game on it.
HeyTeddy says:
Nice Nice!
tds101 says:
Ticomfreak says:
I really hope they don't use Bluray on the next Xbox for games. Bluray is an absolute failure for playing games with. Instead, we should use something like flashdrives or SD cards.
apocacrux says:
That's why you can install games to memory from the bluray.
mondokjm says:
Why exactly is it an absolute failure? Its a vast improvement over the current media that Xbox games use if only for the fact that I don't have to swap discs several times while playing.
Paul Acevedo says:
Not true at all. Note that this BR drive is much faster than the PS3's as the tech has improved significantly since 2007.
J88NY R says:
Shame 1.2 TFLOPS is even less than a Radeon 7770... I dont know why, but I was expecting more.
I know specs in consoles dont really mean anything though... You only have to look at Forza 4, then consider thans running on 8 year old hardware, you would dream of running anything that looked that good on 8 year old PC hardware, even the cutting edge of PC hardware at the time.
mrdeezus says:
what about Bluetooth? Im so tired of crappy wired and rf headsets.
GoodThings2Life says:
I wonder if this new Xbox would actually run the Windows 8 kernel then, or if they'll keep it on its own Windows Embedded platform. I was previously thinking it might end up getting Windows RT, but the x64 processor rules that out.
Honestly, it would almost be foolish of them NOT to use the Windows 8 kernel. If they do, it would open up a whole new world of cross-compatible gaming options between PC and console games. Same is true for apps.
Guess we'll find out soon!
Mystictrust says:
Only if the blu-ray player is as fast as the DVD will I be okay with that as the replacement. I don't want to be forced to install all my Xbox games before I play them like the PS3. My understanding was that had to be done because blu-ray reads slower than DVD (despite the much larger capacity).
sicarmy says:
They should add nfc
apocacrux says:
To serve what purpose? No point in adding a cost to it just to have another bit of tech. They have to sell it for under $400 otherwise people will say it costs too much.
jsnod25 says:
No mention of storage space, I'm guessing much of it will be cloud, and maybe even streaming games become the norm, capable of streaming to console or PC/tablet running windows 8, once you buy the license or rent it, you can log into X amount of devices to stream to it. That would be a huge leap forward.
pnhd says:
the cloud should only complete the experience, not remove physical storage. there still are people who don't have fast internet, or who just don't want to play online. for that you still need a big capacity harddrive, the bigger the better to make it future proof cause games will become bigger and bigger
peachy001 says:
I heard the PS4 has a higher spec Bluray drive. And how come nobody has mentioned the hard drive capacity?
Anyone know much about RAM? How does the lower spec RAM compare to the PS4 ddr 4?
VanillaFrog says:
DDR4? Doesn't exist yet. The Hard Drive capacities are likely to vary between models.
a7medo778 says:
although i was hopping they go all digital...
but if they managed to make it some how compact and silent, i am in
unstoppablekem says:
Lets hope they continue to support the 360 and that people will still make games for it.
John20212 says:
I am a PC gamer so there is only one thing that would convince me to give the Xbox a try, and that is full native Keyboard and mouse support.
This will also enable cross platform multiplayer without the Xbox fanboys crying that FPS PC gamers have an advantage over them because they are stuck with a controller.
Paul Acevedo says:
Not going to happen.
mrdeezus says:
They did this allready and it failed. As a ex hardcore pc gamer i can tell you i will never go back to the pc, too expensive, too many hackers and glitchers screw that. At least on the console games load nd play fast have terrific support and voice chat built in. Once you get used to the controller you'l be fine cus i thought the same thing. My recomendation, start with a COD game andlay it for a week or two you'l get the hang of ot quick.
Rojar19 says:
Seeing as I really can't olay with a playstation controller anymore, whatever Microsoft releases for the nextbox I will buy
apocacrux says:
The inclusion of WiFi is not exciting unless its going to support 8.11ad.
goldenpipes says:
IDC the specs I just wanna know what they are going to call it.
Hanhua Yin says:
So when will we be able to get it? Will be among the first to preorder from Microsoft Store.
signal-2-noise says:
It's too bad really. As far as I'm concerned video game developers haven't even pushed the current 360 to it's limits. There are games being released now that still look amazing on the console. It's going to be a tough decision for me to upgrade to new '360' or jump onto the Steam console bandwagon if/when that's released.
maximumGPU says:
You're kidding right? Developers are often quoted saying how they reached the limits of the consoles. Plus just take at the difference in games like BF3 and crysis 2 on pc and consoles and tell me your xbox games look amazing.
Xeion says:
I agree with maximumGPU. I bought Assasins Creed 3 for my xbox and I thought it looked spectacular. Then my roommate built his own desktop with a GeForce 660Ti. The card came with a free copy of AC3 for PC. I was absolutely blown away by how fantastic it looked on his PC. Everything was smoother, terrain was visible at much farther distance, and the details were staggering. Xbox games look good, but their PC counterparts look noticibly better.
mrcraggle says:
MS are going to have to do something pretty special when it comes to the next Xbox. I put mine away as it simply doesn't meet my needs any more. Why am I forced to pay to play online and access services that are free everywhere else? Where are the day 1 digital releases? Where are the exclusive titles that I can only play on this machine? People complain about exclusive games but it's those games that often justify and purchase and make playing on that console a special experience. If a PS3 or Xbox 360 only had the same games, why would you use one over the other? My current gaming preference is my PC. Steam just allows me to get on with what I want to do without having to jump through hoops and with regular sales and sites like GreenManGaming, I can get these games for huge discounts, something that the Xbox doesn't really offer on full price games. The PS3 also offers PS+ which is a service that's getting better all the time with sometimes serveral high profile games a month at no additional cost along with a bunch of other free crap and discounts (seeing upcoming 13 for 13 promo). I'm highly suspect that this will have a blu-ray player though. It makes sense as the standard format and MS do want to dominate the living space but they'd have to pay a fee to Sony and MS usually try to avoid doing something like that.
JasonH81 says:
I hope you know that the free stuff on Playstation+ goes away if you ever cancel the service. I have it, and enjoy it, but that sux as a catch. I also have Live, had it for over 7yrs now. It's still been the best offering IMHO. Xbox feels more complete; I feel like my PS3 is still playing catch up. I used my PS3 solely for it's exclusives, Plus, and internet browser on my tv (IE on Xbox doesn't play well with flash videos). Everything else my Xbox has in spades, plus it's exclusives. PC gaming is just too expensive for me. Consoles level the playing field the best in my eyes.
SlickShoesRUCrazy says:
not sure how anybody can be excitied about these specs if you have at all have been following all the durango rumors.....
microsoft DID have a powerful console in the pipeline...seems like they cheapped out.
apocacrux says:
They probably didn't want to go the way of Sony, and charge people an arm and a leg just to have a little more power. The PS3 was nearly a flop because of that.
TonyDedrick says:
The games are gonna be what matter. You can have all the specs on the world, but make sh!tty decisions and it won't matter.
Not to mention, the climate in making these big budget, graphic centric video games is up in the air right now with the rising cost in development and consumers looking to get the games cheaper or forgoing some franchises entirely.
The elephant in the room (not just for Microsoft) is whether or not there will be a more aggressive stance on the used game market. So far, some of the hubbub coming out is just rumors and may very remain so.
brorim says:
A "custom" d11 device ?? Wtf
Bruno H says:
Wonder if 8x1,6 Ghz can emulate 3x3,2Ghz. If not, then xbox360 games will not work on this hardware...
X64 CPU and the windows 8 kernel will make it possible to run the metro interface on this machine. I guess that all metro apps you buy will work on the new Xbox. That would be a killer application making both PS3/4 and Apple TV look like a joke :-)
macas says:
I thought Blu-Ray was a Sony thing. Does that mean Sony are letting Microsoft use their technology. ?
Paul Acevedo says:
Sony is only one contributer to the BR format. They don't own it.
HGamer says:
And yet again nothing confirmed . New . is bs , as far I am concerned
Paul Acevedo says:
Unless you have proof to the contrary, calling this rumor BS is awfully presumptuous.
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gilesjuk says:
API is the important thing. It needs to be easy to take advantage of all that power. The XBox has always been good at that.
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"using the x64 Architecture, 8 CPU cores, each running at 1.6 gigahertz"
Since octo chips (Itanium 9500) as of Nov 2012 cost around $1,350 per chip in bulk, I'd wonder how true it is that a server chip will be used in a console. Would it be cool; sure, but considering the amount of games that use the quad core fully, IMO it would be overkill that may never be utilised.
Oh, and selling at a loss is one thing, but selling at around the €620 mark when the CPU alone costs around the €1000 mark... it'll be fun to see how badly these specs are changed.
noelwilliams says:
Full version of Media Centre with live TV capabilities would make this the perfect machine for home use. Does anyone know if MS has any plans for this in future? I heard Bluray was being rejected in favour of downloads to avoid paying royalties.
Paul Acevedo says:
The new consoles can't go download only because the global infrastructure isn't in place yet. Heck, many places in the US lag behind other countries and/or suffer from bandwidth restrictions.
Gemini Ace says:
I just want to know the price.
jgbstetson says:
Specs aside, I would like to see Xbox be at the center of the home. If it uses a low power consumption mode to control things like the lighting, thermostat, home security, and garage door, Mom and Dad may want this as much as junior. Game consoles have the potential to do so much more, I think.
On another note, where the hell is Skype for 360?
EvoFxStudio says:
all this is great , the sad part is this , it is not for all developers wicth meen you will only see high profile games top
5 to 6 games the first 18 month when it is released ,, so i go with the OUYA Console and project shield from nvidia ,
course there will be a lot of games there ,, and the OUYA console is just as powerfull as the xbox 360 and the playstation 3 , games are cheaper allso
then i can buy more games for the same amount of moeny,, meens more quality game time
and my shield we can just hook op the stream store start playing on my tv with the hdmi output
so i think it is the end of the playstation 3 and xbox 360 , allso there opcomming xbox and playstation 4
i am not willing to 60 dollars for a game for those consoles, when i can soon play all my xbox 360 and playstation 3 titles on my sheild or ouya console
a total cost for those 2 systems is 300 dollars
DavidinCT says:
My thoughts..
1. it needs to support Windows Media Center (bring back the ehome team, PLEASE !)
2. It should have 4K res. support to have support for the new stanard TVs in the US (3-4 years from now, most tvs will be 4K, as it's a new buzz word, like 3-D was, that is on it's way out), This is pretty big in my eyes !
3. It should have hardware support for all current Xbox 360 titles (not be emulation of 360 like they did with the first xbox), So it would be an easy jump for everyone with a 360 with out waiting for support for non AAA games.
4. it should have a faster CPU to support real time video games that look real, lets make this so it's not outdated in 3 years.
5. Blu-ray support ? Good idea but, hate to see MS paying Sony for every console made.
6. it needs to come out at the $399.99 price point, no higher unless it has a feature pack (extra controllers or with extra games/Kinect 2.0 etc), $499-699 is just too much for a console no matter the specs.
7. Smartglass controller ?
8. DEV should have access to the SDK for a year plus before its' released(it should be already in the hands of AAA game devs), so when it hits, we will have games that is MADE for the system, not upconverts from 360/ps3 games. We need to have 25+ titles and GOOD titles on release impressive games made for the system.
Can you tell I have been thinking about this for a while ? Of course these specs are subject to change and I hope they do add some of these features..
Paul Acevedo says:
Sony actually predicts 4K won't reach mass adoption for about 10 more years, and I think they might be right. People won't be eager to replace their HDTVs so soon.
I agree that a faster CPU would be nice, but the PS4's CPU is apparently the same clock speed. They're betting on the number of cores, GPU, and RAM reducing the need for a high clock speed. We'll see!
DavidinCT says:
But, it will be like 3-D is now in 3-4 years. It's all about the pannels, once they hit a price point your going to walk into a store and you will be looking at say a 50" tv, the mid-line model 1080p is $1200 and the 4K version is about $2500, you had the cash and dont buy a tv every year, what one would you buy ?
I do feel the tech is going to be pushed quickly, why ? Because in the TV market buzz words and new features sell. 3-D has shown that and people spend the money based on features for the price even though there is not a ton of content still in 3-D but, people are buying 3-D tvs. Now the TV companies are going to try to push the next big thing to boost sales and 4K will be it. Unless glasses free 3-D hits but, I dont think it's going to go bigger than it is now.
I would almost bet by CES next year you see a 50-60" 4K TV for around $5-8k and that would make lower end models come out around $2500-3500, as someone who watches this market, I see the patern and mark my words, we will all be thinking about 4K but, late next year. PC 4K sets (17-25") will be sub $800 range too.
So, HDMI 2.0 or Display port on the new 720 to add the support via software upgrade later would be a nice option, as the console is expected to last (life span) 5-7 years, it would be a nice upgrade later if it was to come to be.
Paul Acevedo says:
Agreed, a future-proof display port is a great idea. We'll see if it happens - I'm glad the wireless and ethernet will both be gigabit!
AskaLangly says:
Now, drop payments for XBL support...
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travisel says:
Microsoft should have made that deal with Intel!
Intel Broadwell (Microarchitecture) Completely blows what ever AMD has away!
- Nnights Corner
- HD Graphics 5000 (Gen 8)
- 14nm
- DX-12, OpenGL 5.0
And as for Sony PS4 should of stayed with NVIDIA and used Nvidia Maxwell (Architecture) Also blows away everything thing AMD has to offer!
- Project Denver
- GeForce 800 Series
- 20nm
- DX-12, OpenGL 5.0
Kon-Aitor says:
Is noone else disapointed by these specs? When the Xbox360 and PS3 launched, they were atleast competative with current hardware, hell they boasted GTX8800 based GPUs, some of the most powerfull on the market at the time.
Now the GPU's are just a little better than one of my the GTX 560ti's which came out over 2 years ago, and are barelly comprable to the GTX 600 series. They are already a geneation behind when they launch.
At least they arn't using propriatery architectures anymore, so maybe PC games will be easier to port over, or developed in the style of IO's latest Hitman game where they focused on making the game as graphically advanced as possible knowing they were going to release to PC's and then downsampling the textures for the consoles.
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Xbox 360 wasn't outperforming PCs when it came out...


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UPDATE: Phase 1 and 2 of the re-entry plan does not apply to everyone in Ortley Beach. Please refer to the attached photograph to see where it applies. The geography of Ortley Beach changes daily, Toms River officials say. The state Department of Transportation and Toms River officials say they're working feverishly to improve the roads in Ortley Beach.
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- To register, the resident will provide a photo ID, which will be surrendered and stored onsite with the registration form. They will then be given a carbon copy of their registration form (which becomes their ticket to board the bus) and a pass to wear while in the affected area.
- Upon return to the mainland the resident, wills urrender the pass and their photo ID will be returned to them.
- Each bus will have an officer accompanying it to the affected area.
- Entry to the affected area will be restricted to residents only. Two people per residence and proper identification (driver's license, tax or utility bill) is required.
- A perimeter will be established and manned by police officers around the area in which residents will arrive.
- Residents will be transported to Ortley Beach from theBellcrest Plaza (935 Fischer Blvd) Toms River via a Toms River Regional school bus.
Residents of some portions of the barrier island communities have already gained access to their homes.
Calls demanding access -- borne of overwhelming anger and frustration -- were creating additional problems, Toms River officials said on the township's website.
In a post titled, "Not everyone can be first -- Town Hall and Police inundated with callers," officials urged residents to stop the barrage.
In the Ortley Beach section, Police Chief Michael Mastronardy will let residents know what streets will be allowed in first, and this information will be posted on the township website at www.TomsRiverTownship.com. People can also sign up for the reverse 911 system, as well, to be notified.
6:39 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
You must have a photo ID that must be surrendered to an official and stored on site in order to go see your property and collect some of your belongings? I wouldn't surrender anything to these people after two weeks of not answering reasonable questions. The other sections of Toms River didn't have to surrender anything.
Dan Polifroni, the past President of the Ortley Beach Property Owners Association was right when he said... "Toms River officials treat us like unwanted step children, except when they collect our tax money and supply us with nothing in return except disrespect".
9:18 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
it is no different in chadwick. non permanent residents are good for one thing tax dollars. other than that we are the unwanted step children. alot of people are thinking maybe after this it will be time for the beach communities to divorce themselves from the main land
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10:13 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Yes we did have to leave our drivers licenses (or other photo ID) at the check in point at Bellcrest Plaza in order to get a Barrier Island Access Pass. When you get back, you hand in your Access Pass and get your license back - very smooth process. This is twofold I assume - one to make sure no one keeps the access pass and two, for them to make sure everyone who was dropped off was picked back up and not left on an island with no utilitites and no food.
11:01 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Lose your ego and realize it is for everyones own protection. They don't want people taking advantage or putting themselves in danger. How were they supposed to answer everyones questions about their particular property. The town was under 5+ feet of water. Assume the worst. No need for your negativity in a time like this.
10:05 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Soooooo sick of Toms River! All Lavallette residents can go in their OWN cars for unrestricted amounts of time. This is ridiculous!!!!! see if toms river ever gets another tax dollar from me!!!!!!!!!
6:52 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Ortley Beach is lucky to get a look. OBIII is still guessing when we will. If the incompetent Mayor and Chief can not come up with a plan real soon I am going to put a plan into motion to deny them access to their homes. Fair is only fair. They both need to resign because they can not think on their feet and outside the box. We can not even vote the old fool of a Mayor.
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7:44 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Forget outside the box. I'd be pleasantly surprised if one of these buffoons had a single thought, of ANY kind, floating around his head.
11:03 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Frustration is assumed to be evident, however it is for your own safety. The roads are un-driveable with a normal vehicle and must be manned with special vehicles. They can't put peoples lives in danger when sink holes are popping up all over and there are no roads.
2:14 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
If "sink holes are popping up all over and there are no roads" why then are residents being let in, particularly in Ortley, which was hit harder than Ocean Beach ? ..and yes OB III "FULL TIME" residents were let in on Saturday. I pay FULL TIME taxes in OB III, why wasn't I let in ?? ..It couldn't be because of sink holes or lack of roads... the only answer is that it's because WE DON"T VOTE IN TOMS RIVER....that my friends is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION in it's worst form !! Perrhaps we need to have a media event at the Toms River Meeting tonite !!
4:09 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
If it's safe enough for "full time" residents ..it's safe enough for full time owners !!
7:02 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
All other area residents had to leave their IDs too. When you sign in, you give them your ID and they give you an ID to hang around your neck that must be worn.
Where is the Ortley Beach Property Owners Association now? With some of our $$$ they are holding in escrow they should have filed a suit against TR and the State.
ruby lande
7:28 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
When will the non-residents be allowed access?
I know it is more of a hardship for residents, but I spend 50% of my time in Ortley
and pay the same taxes!
Dorothy Zahran
12:31 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I called the OEM office this morning and this is for ALL homeowners not just full-time residents. Please don't miss out on your opportunity.
Robert Bressman
7:35 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
It's bad over there, they don't want people over there that don't belong and by giving you ID to hang around your neck makes it easy to recognize that you do belong there. Contractors can't be more than 50 feet from their trucks otherwise they are escorted out, stop making a big deal out of nothing, this is to protect you and your property. This is extrodinary times
9:22 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Agreed!!! thank you robert for posting something LOGICAL, I am stick of hearing everyone complain here. maybe if everyone could work TOGETHER instead of government vs people, then this whole process would be a bit easier. WE the people put people into office if you dont like how it is being run during an EXTREME circumstance then GO RUN FOR OFFICE and next time handle it however you see fit, but until that time comes, shut up and follow instructions, QUIETLY.
7:40 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
This whole mess is disgraceful from the mayor on down.
More homes are ok than damaged many streets are passable. The. Ocean blocks did take a bad hit but most of Ortley is ok. This will never be forgotten, how the politicians and Police Chief have managed the Ortley situation. We will remember at election time.
11:05 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Get off your high horse. Have you seen it over there? Have you seen the broken gas lines, non functioning sewage system, broken water mains, downed poles and wires EVERYWHERE? The mayor and any one else of authority is simply protecting the people from danger. This means everyone.
11:31 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Go to youtube and see all the videos of non-essential people cruising around in buses looking at all the homes.....I know some areas are inaccessable but most of the streets are passable....we could have been over there last week doing work on our homes instead of wasting time waiting for nonsense from politicians
I waited by the bridge on the seecond day and watched what was going on and I witnessed Seaside police letting there guido friends go over to see the "boardwalk" before letting homeowners and residents go to see their property....It's not what you know its who you know....ask the football player
diana kochan
7:59 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I disagree with J that Ortley is OK. Ortley between rt 35 S and east side of Bay Blvd is basically ok but the side streets were still ravaged by flood waters creating unsafe sink holes. I do agree that the situation has been mismanaged. The scope of the TR damaged areas outside their beach communities is also huge. Across the bay took a big hit. Fortunately, they have road access.
1:27 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Have you all seen the sink hole on 6th Ave. or the one by the playground on Bay Blvd? How do we really know that some of these aren't undermining our houses. Anyone who has put in a fence post, as I have, knows that there is water only about 2.5 feet down. Kind of makes sense that they want everyone to be safe!!! That is not even counting the natural gas leaks and the like!!! My mom and son are permanent residents, my grandfather built the house in the early 50's, and we all have many connections to the area too! Everyone is ANXIOUS!!! Patience folks and it is not only Toms River's decision as to how the plan goes. So, yes, some may want the independence (topic for another day), but can't make them the only scapegoat, I am sure.
MP Flood
8:01 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
So much for dragging garbage to the street,huh?
8:09 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Any homeowner whose home is intact and their street is passable should have been allowed to go in at least the first week to begin the cleanup process. Many people have been in and out of the affected areas who had no business being there. Homeowners/ TAX PAYERS should have had TOP PRIORITY. Not sightseers, crony friends.
The only word that comes to mind is DISGRACEFUL
Robert Bressman
9:28 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Do you want to say, like who is over there that shouldn't be? I know first hand you just don't go over there without going to the command center and are processed, with a badge so you can go in those areas, and you can't even walk over to see the beach, you have to stay with your equipment. Nobody is just roaming around .
Hate Incompetence
8:39 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Our taxes pay their salaries, and then some, but prisoners of war get better treatment.
Joanna anselmo
8:43 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
This is moms secondary home too. I'm trying to take care of everything I can , but I've asked so many people di I reg before hand or the day they open bay blvd? Are wr getting 48 hour notice? I don't live around the corner and work. This has been such a nightmare and it seems no one want to give us clear answers
Karen Wall
11:31 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
The way it has worked with all of these towns has been registering the day of your access.
3:08 pm on Thursday, November 22, 2012
joanne saw pictures of your moms house plenty of water around house not too good.i can be reached at email@example.com tont averso
8:57 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
All official instructions for re-entry will come from
Good Luck to all Ortley people and all affected by the storm....
9:17 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Ask tony saragusa to get you in he gets police escort to go in
10:46 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
EXACTLY - don't give me the it's-all-been-fair crap. That man lives around the corner from us and he's already been there. That is BS. All or nothing.
Chuck Lada
9:25 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I hope they have mental health professionals available for the residents who find their houses gone and then realize that they were sitting in the 75 foot tall pile of debris that is staged in the temporary recyling yard at the foot of the bridge in Seaside Heights. Good Luck and God Bless the residents of Ortley Beach.
E Liz
10:24 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
They do have state police chaplains there - from NJ as well as other states, but there are only a few of them. I agree with you. I thought I was prepared but I got very emotional. That debris pile at the foot of the bridge is your first warning of how huge this is, then it gets more personal from there as you see your friends and neighbors' homes, businesses you love and then ultimately your own home. I am sorry to those who haven't been there yet, and you will get there, but when you see it, you will understand better.
9:42 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
First of all dont try to defend incompetance That's part of the reason they didn't want us over there because they were doing what they wanted without anyone's interference
Our property taxes are paying for people's pensions and benefits. We should have been allowed to our homes a lot sooner and not be treated like dogs by submitting our drivers licenses like we are in a communist country. Ortley residents will never forget and we will see at election time. It's time for major changes in this corrupt Toms River and Ocean County....
Hurricane Sandy
10:00 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
CHUCK, I agree with you. There are going to be quite a few emotional people around.
ROBERT, I bet you're one or the other. An attorney or have a job collecting taxpayer money.
Robert Bressman
10:27 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I'n not an attorney and I'm not a tax collector, just a person trying to help rebuild the area NOW. There is a time to be negative and a time to pull together, this isn't the time to be negative! This is the worst disaster we'll see in our lifetime, it would be nice if everyone would take a deep breathe and calm down
Chief Wahoo
10:04 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Taxation without representation. Long live the king.
Property tax revolt is a must. Take away their pensions.
E Liz
10:21 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I was there yesterday. Wait until you see all of the "representation", not just from the State of NJ, Toms River PD, OEM, Ambulances - but also from Massachusetts and Pennsylvania State police. You can hardly blink without a government vehicle of some sort or a dumptruck passing by. And Toms River PD helped people get their doors open and closed if they were swollen from floodwaters - the garbage trucks were there swiftly removing bags of rotten food that everyone was clearing from their refrigerators. A PA State Trooper was helping an elderly neighbor shovel sand out of her front entrance - in full uniform. Know that there are hundreds of men and women down there right now working for us - I did not realize how huge the effort is until I got there. And for what it's worth - I understand why Ortley needed to be last on this reentry process. Many houses look structurally OK, but percentage-wise - Ortley's homes and roads took it the hardest. There is much more there to deal with in order to section off a 'safe' area for residents to access. It is a disaster area there - really.
10:05 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I can assure you all of the politicaly connected public insurance adjusters floating around Toms River have seen your home and are just waiting to pounce.
10:28 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
If they ask for a ID so they can have a list and picture of the people going over it can only be to help them keep track of everyone. The picture would help in trying to find the right person in case something happens and that person does not return. Read the article, don't read into the article what you think will happen. If you don't want to do as the have set up don't and you'll leave room for those who do wish to see their homes and get important papers so they can make the calls they need to do.
Hurricane Sandy
10:36 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I just called TR to ask a couple of question about tomorrows reentry.
We are allowed to remove a suitcase on our lap like everyone else was doing. The difference is we we can spend the day, drain pipes and pick up a little.
She said that we CAN NOT start cleaning out our homes. Wet carpet and couches have to stay. That will be for phase 2. When I asked for the persons name that was giving me the answers, she said she wouldn't. When my area is brought in on our bus ride. I will be putting all my carpet and couches in the yard after I video it.
E Liz; Thanks for the update. And we believe what your saying. But 2 weeks is long enough to keep people from their homes. PEOPLE HELPING PEOPLE is what will help more. Than the POLITICIANS FEELING THAT THERE PROTECTING AND HELPING US!!!!!
10:38 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I own a home in the most damaged part of Ortley Beach. I called the Toms River Police to find out when we can have access to our homes. I was told that we will have
to wait until our homes are inspected and deemed safe to enter. When I asked how these inspectors will gain entry to the interior of our homes, the person told me they weren't privy to that information. Does that mean they will be kicking down our doors? Will our homes then be left open for just anyone to walk in? Does anyone else find this just slightly outrageous, or is it just me?
11:22 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I'm sure they will have to enter your home forcefully if need be to ensure you and your families safety upon returning to address the issues. I'm also sure they won't just leave it open for anyone to get into. They will most likely board the door up etc. They have to make sure there isn't anything dangerous that made its way into your home like pier pilings, boards with nails, dangerous debris, sharp objects, wires, or even worse, bodies. Keep calm. Your chance will come. Spend your energy preparing for the unimaginable sights you will see once you are over there rather than anger.
10:51 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
The people/ homeowners will rebuild Ortley not the politicians or police....when all is said and done neighbors and friends and family will come together. I agree people helping people will ultimately prevail. Homeowners will be the ones doing most of the work. I don't trust any politicians not one iota...and this event just proves how full of #%$@ they are. There only concerned with there image and photo ops and there pensions and benefits. There will be many people who will not get paid by insurance companies and FEMA then where will the politicians be
We'll see....
10:55 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
So wait, this is not for all of Ortley? Only the small section between Rts 35 N & S? And is this for full-time residents only? I don't see that explicitely mentioned, it only says residents. Is that determined by what is on your license? We spend more than 50% of our time at our Ortley residence but our drivers license states a different location. If I have to make a trip to motor vehicle today I will.
11:01 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
each day another section of town will be added so you need to watch the site as this will last 6 days; it is for all residents both full and part time. Bring a tax statement or utility bill for your home as proof.
Dorothy Zahran
12:37 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I called the OEM today and this is for ALL homeowners, not just full-time residents.
Chuck Lada
11:47 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
This link will take you to satelite photos post Sandy. Enter your address in the search box and hit "enter"
Good luck and God Bless!
12:00 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
If this was for me, thanks. Been to that site, even had a friend who got pictures from a chartered flight. How is still standing but judging on neighbors water line we got over 4 ft of water so I can't even imagine what I'll see when I open the door. Like everyone else, we just want to start cleaning up. If there was anything that was salvagable, it's probably too late....
Michael reina
11:51 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
So i did some reserch....fema knows nothen about homes being knocked down.....they say call 211 and long behold they know nothen...and they say call tomsriver and or seaside....and YOU CAN ONLY GUESS what there gonna tell you.....like i said if i get there and my home is gone they can just give me a bus ride to TRENTON STATE !!!!!!
1:49 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Michael, if you or others have still have questions re: possible condition of you houses-go on the Toms River Twp site--near the bottom of page is "Ortley Beach House Inventory" of homes. Or even the Google Crisis Map --check box Post Sandy.
These may help before the visit.
12:20 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
My Freind us a permanent resident if Ortley beach. She's asked me to come with her to help her - will I be allowed in? Is it only spouses they're letting in? She can't do this by herself. Does anyone know?
E Liz
1:31 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Its two people per residence - one has to be the homeowner and the other one can be from anywhere, but still has to have photo ID.
12:57 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
No electric, no gas, no sewer, minimal usable roads. Yet people still don't understand why they aren't allowed to stay in their homes.
2:00 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Mike, by making a statement like that it only proves you don't get the whole argument. Next time, before you say idiots just look in the mirror as it would be more fitting.
2:02 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Really??? I don't think I saw anyone complaining about not being able to stay in their homes... None of us want to stay there, that would be idiotic...
5:10 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Its called being Selfish Mike...they want what they want and it does not matter if it affects the clean up, the security so people don't loot from the area, or the road dangers that lurk up and down Route 35 S and N...but hay this is America your allowed to be stubborn, selfish, and yes and Idiot I say let them all over and and when they have their homes broken into, get stuck in an sink hole or get trapped in their partially destroyed homes let them figure out how to then get themselves out of trouble.
1:40 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
There are so many people working to clean up and restore the island that the workers are getting in each others way. If they let people drive in the workers would not be able to get anything done.
Patricia Perillo
2:07 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Silver Beach only had 1 hour to visit their homes. Almost all other associations had at least 6 hours to clean up their refrigerators and throw out the three week old rotten garbage. Why were we limited to such a short period of time. We all had substancial damages, yet Silver Beach residents had a very limited time. Why ?
Silver Beach Resident
2:52 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
In Chadwick only permanent residents get in for 1.5 hours. The rest of us wait for phase 2 to begin....as to the truth none of us will ever know it, but I have seen a ton of photos of my house still standing and in decent condition. All taken by people who stopped for a photo op because of its location. The people of toms river are being babied, misled and generally "handled" by the mayor, his cronies and people foolish enough to buy into the propaganda machines.
Colleen Fraser
8:03 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
You're fortunate you were allowed in. Ocean Beach III (owners, not permanent residents) are still waiting to get in! We would love to have that hour. No residents had 6 hours. Ocean Beach I and II haven't been in either.
elisa m
2:14 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
i know this is tough but as hard as it may be for you to believe the cops and first responders are doing exactly what they are supposed to do.
i grew up with you and wound up reporting on other people's tragedies...most notably hurricane katrina. i spent six weeks there. what you have...two weeks in...is, in many ways, incredibly good. this takes time and it's heartbreaking...but it will get done.
nothing will ever be the same but you'll be stronger. PLEASE, friends...take the long view as hard as that may be.
i love you all.
anthony serrao
2:30 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Let me see if I have this right. Under PHASE 1 and 2 all residents of Ortley Beach are allowed in when they list their location for that date. In addition you can spend as long as you want there but must be on the 2PM bus.
Phase 3 will allow you to start cleaning out your house.
Why cant we start cleaning out our homes under Phase 1and 2 if we are allowed to stay until 2PM. This makes no sense.
3:30 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
You can also start cleaning out your home & place the trash out for pick up. Not on the street though so you don't block vehicles & any work going on. All this is spelled out on a clarification on the TR web page.
E Liz
4:15 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
My guess is that they are worried the debris (think sheetrock, matresses, couches, kitchen cabinets, paneling) might be placed in the roadways and block Route 35 - they probably aren't ready to start picking that stuff up yet. My other guess is that if you wanted to get stuff out of your house and you have room in your backyard or driveway, no one could stop you from doing that.
3:21 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I am a phase 2 Chadwick resident that pays a mere $25K a years in taxes and though Phase 1 is now complete, nothing has been said about when Phase 2 will begin. The lack of communications is what has everyone frustrated. I understand there were very long lines to register. Why not register on line and be assigned a time and a bus and eliminate more frustration? This was a disaster but figuring out how to move people in and out is not rocket science.
Paula Belotta
3:31 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I hope there is a large turn out for the council meeting.
MP Flood
3:39 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Anybody not questioning or attacking the township is the fool,my friends
5:03 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Man all you hear on here is a bunch of whining from a bunch of people who have absolutely no CLUE as to what is going on. Come on people instead of thinking of yourselves and your summer homes try thinking of these few things. ONE-there was a FLOOD 6ft in some areas that means HUGE potholes, destroyed houses off their foundations into the road and up until recently Un-passable roads. TWO-Full time residents that live there everyday who need to get their personal belongings were given preference! That means those that have been living in the same clothes for the past two weeks should be allowed first before someone who wants to check on their summer home that they use all but 9 months of the year (SELFISH) THREE-If the Town officials allowed everyone to go over with their cars in the beginning there would have been mass looting and all you above complaints would have found another issue to complain about (Again selfish and use common sense!) FOUR, The State Department of Transportation Closed the Barrier Island as directed by the Gov Office FACT which then allowed the hundreds of State workers to work AROUND the clock to dig out Ortley and the beaches and make the roads safe so that you could return to your Homes SAFELY!! So before you go complaining like spoiled children think of some of the things I have stated here and maybe, just maybe after you see the devastation first hand then you will realize just how foolish you all sound.
6:58 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
@ letsgetreal If those in charge had gone up and down the streets block by block,( its not that big of a town) and SHOWED pple that their houses were still there and communicated better, the masses would have been better informed and would be less angry. They did neither. And yes there was preferential treatment going on to some home owners when they flashed their police dpt badges, they were let in and in their own car, until they were caught and asked to leave.( a fact). ps Please do not judge those of us with 'Summer" homes, u do not know what we are dealing with up north with no electric no heat and no clothes there also. Orltey has ALWAYS been the forgotten stepchild of TR TWP. That needs to change too.
Bill Clinton
6:53 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
First of all everybody knows you can't live without electric, water, sewer, and gas. And especially TV so we can watch the FOX News channel and listen to the same communist Republican propaganda you listen too. Homeowners / tax payers should have been let over after 2 or 3 days when the gas was shut off not 2
weeks. The town should have taken the tax records an then they could have matched homes not damaged with owners for identification. Bused over would have been ok
So we could have worked on our homes. Some of us are full time residents anybody not questioning the antics of the Toms River authorities is either a crony or has drank the Republican cool- aid. Your Republican days in Ocean County are coming to an end. Put that in your cool-aid cup
8:22 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Thus us not extraordinary times. It's incompetence . We need Mayor Bloomburg here. The world is laughing at us. Let the people back to their homes . When government thinks they can do it better than people, we are no longer a democracy .
Michael reina
9:00 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Why is everyone worried and maken big deal about getting stuff out to curb.....when i met with fema insp all of the houses u see with a green sticker in just about all ortley including mine are for demolition and we have no say.....and alot of the hones are savable......so you wanna knock my home down you can take all the stuff in it also......i will take my cloths and what little is left anf let them knock themselves out....NOTHEN WILL GET DONE UNTIL YOU GET THE "ORTLEY MAN MARCH " GOING.....WALK THE BRIDGE , GET THE CLASS ACTION GOING !!!! come on people nothen gets done till your on shame shame shame.......lol
Chief Wahoo
9:16 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
well past time for the island becomes its own township !!!!!....too bad it takes a disaster for most people to wake up to this
Hate Incompetence
9:43 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Lavallette residents, property owners and business owners will all be allowed in tomorrow, Thursday and Friday IN THEIR OWN VEHICLES!!! So no more CRAP about DOT restrictions or roads not being safe, when they'll be using the SAME road the rest of us would have used, if Toms River overlords had half a brain amongst them.
10:01 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Hey isn't toms river north of ortley......they must being using hover cars or something.
10:31 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Hey Hate; Thats because the Lavallete Mayor was on 101.5 this morning. He said his town was ready to turn the power on and JCPL was waiting for the word. The Mayor said the DOT was holding him up because they still were working on a sinkhole or two. He said thats no reason to shut a whole town down. I like that Mayor. :-)
10:02 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Lavallette I meant......lucky them they are not part of toms river
butch cassidy
10:35 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Lavallette did not receive as much damage as ortley i know its hard people but they are working as fast as they can and i believe doing a good job...talk about a bad job look at staten island etc... everyone who grew up here and lives here had damage and loss..its so sad i am trying to be positive but that too is hard certain times of the day...when i start to remember how much that area has meant to me my family friends etc
10:16 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
letsgetreal, MAJOR LOSER!!!!!!!
One, like you said, until recently. Two, I'm a full timer and I feel my neighbor is 5 months and weekends and pays his $18K taxes a year. (even if he paid $5K) He has just as much right as me to be there. Even is 1 month a year. Three, Its not the beginning, its 2 weeks later. And as far as looting. ID check, genius!! Four, FACT IS BASED ON what TR officials report to him. The foolish little child is you. So now you can go back to your taxpayer collecting job and write some more child and foolish nonsense, of what no one even cares what you have to say. LOSER
5:15 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Keep whining John...I'm certainly not collecting a taxpayer job salary. I am a home owner who lost all on the bayside and makes me sick to see you whine about YOUR SECOND HOME Wahhh Wahhh...when so many lost everything...including those who are FULL time residents on the beach. Yea and I am sure you have been volunteering your time during those two weeks to to help out those who don't have SECOND HOMES! We all pay taxes JOHN...just because you pay more does not give you any leg up on those that don't. Stop bitchin and try becoming part of the solution and if you have the time try helping out for those in need....then again that might be below you since your a HIGH tax payer!
10:25 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
10:39 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
If you hate Ortley so much....MOVE. We don't want someone like you in our town anyway. Stay in north jersey where your crap a$$ attitude belongs.
10:34 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
I can't wait until Thursdays comments when you all realize why things were done this way. Complaints about frozen pipes and mold should be the least of your worries. The suitcase rule is due to the fact that that's about all that is salvageable in most homes in ortley. God bless.
Michelle Blamble
12:38 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
The only thing that has kept me calm these last two weeks is that I knew access to the island was severely restricted. That gave me hope that at least there would be no looting. So now they are letting contractors, etc on, how are they securing the houses they won't let us empty of valuables?
10:40 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
cant get any answers. my in laws parked their car at a&p lot where is it? who has it? any info would be appreciated. pd does not know, mayor does not know. please, any info. heard a rumor that guards towed the cars parked there, but where
11:30 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
Im a full time resident as most of you are. I was there 3 times. once in my boat after the storm, (can't do that anymore) another time on the bus to go to my business, and again on the bus to go to my house. (2 different areas). I agree with some of the angry comments in these post, but not all of them. It is frustrating I agree. Especially when a certain (SH) police chief is making comments and assumptions about the bridge being compromised, and people not being able to get back to their homes for 6 to 8 months. He has no business making these statements. Its comments like his that no one needs to hear 3 or 4 days after the storm. . (My point is this; The bridge is repaired already/ and were getting back to our homes)
Do police work chief......NOT PR Work. Let the DOT decide when its safe. I think they know a little more than all of us about this right now.
I do know this.......because I've seen it with my own eyes. Police, local and out of state, construction personnel, Linemen from all over the country, and many more types of first responders are all over that island, Helping every one of us. Locally, I have to say...Every TR cop I've dealt with either at the school bus location, on the buses, at check points all over town....has been a gentleman, very helpful, and patient with everybody. Now.... go help somebody out that needs a hand! It might change the way you feel about things right now. As bad as it is for you, somebody else has it worse.
5:18 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Mike finally someone on here made a COMMON sense statement. Well said...a lot have lost but the State and local officials (I assume) are trying to make it safe for all from what I had seen and Up until I saw the devastation for the first time I could not have imagined how bad it was.
Michelle Blamble
12:42 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
The state & local government are making things worse!
12:55 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Let me ask you this Michelle. Who should be doing their job? The Boy Scouts? Their the first people we call when we need help. Their all doing their jobs. This problem is not just in our neighborhoods. It's statewide and all over NY, and it's not going away soon. If you think it's the mayors fault, next time you vote you'll have your chance to vote for the other guy. Have you even been over there yet? Sounds like you haven't to me. It's frustrating for sure. Take 2 steps back....and we will all be able to take a giant step forward.
1:01 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Michele, there are cops on every corner over there. I don't think the looting is as bad as m
10:23 pm on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
@Letsgetreal... Like I said MAJOR LOSSER
First, Very sorry about the loss of your home, and mean it. But still stand by my comment above. Just because someone doesn't agree with you or you don't like what they're saying you go off on your high horse.
YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT ME. But I'll enlighten you a little. 1st, I do have 2 homes. And today I found out my that my fulltime home at the shore is totaled. And its no big deal to me. I'm still stand. I have lots of memories of that place. I'll either rebuild or sell. Don't know yet. And my 2nd house, yes I do have one. Is a rental that is rented out. And that's where I stayed for 10 days without power with a kind friend you rents it. And yes THANK YOU, for 10 day I was off of work and driving around, handing out water, ice and cooking food for neighbor on the block. We were also going into stores that were open, buy food and giving it out to those who need. Since most didn't have heat, we were inviting them over to my place that my buddy rents from me because there is a gas heater that we hooked up that heated the house. So I guess you were wrong on that assumption. Also, you need to reread before you make comments. I never said that I pay more taxes. I said that my neighbor pays 18K for 5 months and weekends. And even if he paid 5K he had as much right to be there as does a full timer. So now, you can stop your whining and your Wahhh Wahhhing and letsgetreal. Good luck with your home and hope all works out for you.
7:21 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Well, I took the TR bus ride over to the Island yesterday to visit my property, TOTALED. And thats ok. I lived at the shore and hurricanes happen. Though very sad to look around at the devastation, it has many memories to compensate for my loss. The Island on the beach block must have looked like 'HELLS HOLE", But that happens during major storms. It happens all over the world everyday, just not to OB, WRONG, it dose. It was amazing seeing it OVER 2 WEEKS after it hit, MUCH TO LONG I still feel for us to have gotten in. THEY are doing an amazing job cleaning up and busting there asses. Thank you to ALL the workers from near and far. I've walked thru hurricane hit areas before, the day after. BUT this was VERY SURREAL, with it being my home. PEOPLE of the faint of heart, be ready. Good luck to all. And if your reading this were the lucky ones who made it to live another day.
Dorothy Zahran
3:26 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I was in Ortley on Wednesday and I thought that the plan was well thought out and executed. The police, from many different states, on the buses, in Ortley, and at the registration site were great! Very caring and helpful. They did everything to make sure that we were safe, and helped many of us get into our places when the doors or the locks were unyielding. They carried luggage and offered water and hand sanitizers to a weary busload at the end of the day. The Red cross volunteers were also cheerful and tried to help out where they could. My first floor was flooded but I still have four walls, a roof, and a good second floor, so with a little sweat and TLC I expect we will eventually be okay. I would like to thank the OEM for returning my phone calls and patiently answering all my questions. I think they have done a super job. Kudos to all involved!