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Thursday, 07/15/1999
PNC Bank Arts Center, Holmdel, NJ
Soundcheck: Lady Madonna, Have Mercy, Mountains in the Mist -> Dirt -> Mountains in the Mist, Guyute (part), You Better Believe It Baby
Set 1: PYITEPunch You In the Eye > Ghost > Farmhouse, Horn > Poor Heart > Axilla > ThemeTheme From the Bottom, IDKI Didn't Know, SlothThe Sloth, YEMYou Enjoy Myself
Set 2: Meatstick > SOAMeltSplit Open and Melt[1] -> Kung -> Jam[2] > Bouncin'Bouncing Around the Room, CDTChalk Dust Torture
Encore: Brian and Robert, Frankenstein
[1] Began as 2001 and was unfinished.
[2] Shine (Collective Soul) and Split Open and Melt teases from Mike.
Performers: Trey Anastasio, Page McConnell, Jon Fishman, Mike Gordon
Notes: This show was webcast live by the House of Blues. During I Didn't Know, Trey noted that Michael "Soft G" Jordan would be turning the mic over to "Flagina" Fishman, who then took a vacuum solo. During Meatstick, Trey noted that the band was going to try to get into the Guinness Book of World Records by having the most people perform the dance simultaneously. Trey, Mike and Sofi Dillof then taught the crowd how to do the dance. Split Open and Melt began as 2001 and was unfinished; the ensuing Kung launched into a dissonant jam. The jam subsequently contained Shine (Collective Soul) and Melt teases from Mike.
This show was part of the "1999 Summer U.S. Tour."
The SOAM jam starts out in typical fashion, albeit with more zip than usual in keeping with the energy of the entire show - it's like the 1994 Phish was playing 1999 style, if that makes sense - and then starts whipping back and forth in tempo, before finally settling on the usual, loop-heavy dreamy jam of late-90s SOAMs. Then, entirely out of nowhere, the band rolls into Kung, with a heavy and squalling accompaniment behind it, then launches into another fast-paced jam, with effects aplenty from Trey to really add some weirdness to the affair (Mike's bassline really keeps everything glued together here - and that Shine quote is a hoot). The jam slows down at about the 20 minute mark to let everyone catch their breath, then explodes into a wild peak, Trey really letting loose with both the manic solos and the high sustaining notes, Page clanking away on the piano and keeping pace. After a few minutes of said peak, the jam slows back down and becomes both more contemplative and more like the usual SOAM jam, an intense counterpoint to the previous high-octane jam. This is such a chilled-out, almost beautiful jam, and it practically demands attention (and good headphones) from the listener. From that jam comes Bouncin', this show's "let's all relax now" equivalent of Number Line following Carini at 12/30/12 II, and then an extended Chalk Dust that flies along with just as much speed and energy as the opening PYITE (with an Antelope-like trill-off for good measure). Between that, the extended Meatstick, and the SOAM madness, this is a high-class second set. B&R/Frankenstein is just fine as an encore.
To me, the choice for show of the summer is basically between 7/25, with its wide-ranging and always surprising second set, and this show, which is as focused, energetic, and of a piece as 7/25 II was a bunch of great parts stitched together into a great show. This is one of the shows of the summer, and of the year. Absolutely recommended.
I'd write this setlist as
II: Meatstick> Split Open & Melt -> Kung -> Split Open & Melt*> Bouncin
* Unfinished
Maybe ->Jam -> Melt2 -> Jam> or ->Jam-> Melt Jam or just Melt Jam? Not sure how Phish.net would notate it, but i'd say it's worth a relisten to see how you guys would treat it. Amazing improv all over this set, I really like the way it flows as a cohesive whole. The Kung is super intense! Interesting but perfect Bouncin' placement!
I saw a ton of shows on this tour, and the first night in Jersey may well be my favorite Summer `99 piece. Simply put, the jamming starts early, and doesn't let up. The first set is littered with fabulous song selection and placement, from the slick "Ghost" to the lovely "Axilla" > "Theme" and the raging "YEM" closer. The boys had been playing great first sets up through this stretch, actually, from the Camden "Chalk Dust" and "Gin", to the "Foreplay/Longtime" and "Curtain", "Halley's" of the two Great Woods shows. But whereas the Great Woods shows had second sets with as many lulls as high points, this second set in Jersey was a thing of beauty.
"Meatstick" skeptics should hear this version. It clocks in at about twenty one minutes and has some of the best jamming Phish did in `99. Bar none the best one out there, and a great example of how good a jam vehicle this song can be. I've been waiting for them to take advantage of that potential like this ever since, to no avail. The early segment has some playful banter about setting the world record in Oswego, and then once the dance is out of the way launches into a really intricate, spacey and danceable jam that I've listened to countless times since. Fans of the epic 4/3/98 show at Nassau should hear this jam. Very much in the same vein as the "Roses" -> "Jam" -> "Piper" -> "Jam", if you get my drift. As if that weren't enough, the "SOAM" -> "Kung" -> "Jam" runs a full half hour without letting up. The "Melt" caught us off guard, having been just played (fantastically) in Great Woods, and sounded almost like a "2001" tease. But it leads effortlessly into the highest energy "Kung" you'll hear, with harmonic vocals towards the end that just push the boys in a balls-to-the-walls jam that last seventeen minutes.
Absolutely fantastic show.
The set continued with a song based theme (thanks for The Sloth) until the opening notes of YEM. This is still my favorite version I have ever heard in person (Thanks for releasing the sbd!). Trey was on a mission to shred and peak after peak threw the crowd into a frenzy. The vocal jam that followed was much better in person. The recording can't replicate the lights, dynamics and vocal experimentation that the band engaged in. I have heard vocal jams that I like more, but none that were so much better in person.
1999 was the year of the Meatstick, but by this point, I didn't want to hear it again. How does the band remedy this? By playing the most jammed out version to this point. 9 minutes of inspired Meatsticking made me rethink my opinion of the song. Slow, methodical and breezy, I had a grin from ear to ear. The SOAM that followed was one of the craziest musical roller coaster rides I have ever taken. About 5 minutes into the jam, after Fish had changed tempos about a million times, Corey says, "This sure ain't the blues anymore," in reference to the web cast. When the dust finally settled, I actually needed a BATR to find my way back to Earth. The Chalkdust wasn't 7-10, but along with Frankenstein, provided a rock and roll ending to a show that was all about outer space.


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Trace Windows 7 boot/shutdown/hibernate/standby/resume issues
Posted 09 October 2012 - 07:30 AM
I posted the new file at:
Let me know if you can help anymore or need anything else.
Much appreciated,
Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:53 AM
<timing bootDoneViaExplorer="66092" bootDoneViaPostBoot="-1"
What I can see is that your HDD is busy all the time.
When I checked what causes the issue I can see that Defender/MSE causes a lot of disk activity. I always had this issue with MSE, so I don't use it any longer.
I can also see that the DNS client service causes some high cpu usage. Add -stackwalk profile after -trace flags to the command and give me the new file.
Posted 09 October 2012 - 06:51 PM
Also I'll post it up within the hour. Have to get access to laptop.
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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:31 PM
The -1 is shown when Windows was still busy with running all startup applications when the trace was finished.
Try AVG or AntiVir as alternative.
Posted 10 October 2012 - 04:48 AM
I just realised that i didnt send the post to you, so sorry to make you wait:
That is the latest etl file. I installed Avast for its low boot impact compared to a couple other before i got you second message about Avir and AVG. Ill check them as well after we sought out some more issues...
Any help you can give is awesome.
Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:22 AM
Do you use the host file to as ad blocker? How large is the host files?
Also the trace still shows MSE/defender as cause of a high HDD utilization.
Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:36 AM
Thanks for help and be in touch soon (4:36am here).
Ok so i check my hosts file and i found why its so large. Spybot search and Destroy add hundreds/thousands of entries...should i remove these entries/spybot or would you recommend leaving that there?
Regarding the MSE/Defender issue im not sure as from what i can tell MSE is gone from my system and Defender isnt enabled.
On second look i found Defender still auto scanning and ON. Not sure how i missed it but will now re-time and post up ETL files a little later with the following command:
xbootmgr -trace boot -traceFlags BASE+CSWITCH+DRIVERS+POWER -stackwalk profile -resultPath C:\TEMP\6-Fix
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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:44 PM
the main issue is still the large time needed to to start all applications at Windows logon. Try to disable all unnecessary programs .
Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:18 AM
MagicAndre1981, on 12 October 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:
the main issue is still the large time needed to to start all applications at Windows logon. Try to disable all unnecessary programs .
This I don't understand as there are only 2 programs listed under msconfig to boot at startup and nothing in the startup folder... How would I go about searching out these other applications?
Thanks again,
Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:07 AM
You run dropbox, teamviewer, µtorrent, stardock fences, Synaptics tools, TightVNC,
Also how large is your Windows search index? The service takes 28s to init. Set the starttyp to manual and create a scheduled task which starts the service (net start WSearch), let me say 3min after logon. See if this helps.
Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:29 PM
The start-up on my PC always feels slow, especially inbetween entering the password to log-on and the desktop. Running Windows 7 x64, 4GB RAM with an AMD Phenom II X3 720BE processor and an Asus motherboard.
I've enclosed the xbootmgr log, could you take a look at it and advise me how to improve it?
Posted 15 October 2012 - 01:40 PM
Here it takes nearly 24 to start the Audio service:
serviceTransition name="AudioSrv" group="AudioGroup" transition="start" totalTransitionTimeDelta="23745"
Audio_service.png (84.51K)
Number of downloads: 10
So try to update the audio drivers for your Creative SB X-Fi.
Posted 15 October 2012 - 02:54 PM
MagicAndre1981, on 15 October 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:
Here it takes nearly 24 to start the Audio service:
So try to update the audio drivers for your Creative SB X-Fi.
Ok, I've fully removed the previous driver and updated with the latest driver I could find (the only alternative was a beta) and re-ran the test.
Here's the updated files:
Thanks for your help with this, it's appreciated.
This post has been edited by Calippo: 15 October 2012 - 03:38 PM
Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:33 PM
Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:53 PM
Posted 16 October 2012 - 01:20 AM
- <timing bootDoneViaExplorer="42431" bootDoneViaPostBoot="-1"
The Audio service now starts faster (only 1s).
But your disk is busy all the time. You also use MSE and this causes a high CPU and disk activity. Try a different tool like AVG, Avira or Avast. Also try the cleanup tools from Startup like the AMD CCC which is very slow to start. And do you need all logitech software right at boot? What is SABnzbd.exe? Do you need it?
I can also see that the prefetcher doesn't work perfectly. So follow my optimization guide I've linked in the first post. Install the hotfixes, reboot, run the new command to reboot the PC 6 times.
This should give you a large boost.
Posted 16 October 2012 - 04:37 AM
MagicAndre1981, on 16 October 2012 - 01:20 AM, said:
- <timing bootDoneViaExplorer="42431" bootDoneViaPostBoot="-1"
The Audio service now starts faster (only 1s).
The Creative drivers for Windows 7 have been a complete farce. Is the time to start this significantly worse than expected? I'm tempted to replace the card with another brand, this might be the tipping point.
I'll remove MSE and try Avira instead.
AMD CCC and Logitech I use for gaming, neither of which are essential at the first point where the PC is booted. Do you think it would be best to use Task Scheduler to set these to open at boot with a delay?
SABnzbd.exe is a downloader program, having it run in the background is only a convenience. Same again with TS?
This should give you a large boost.
Will do. Thanks for your help
Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:55 PM
For what do you use the CCC? 1 only use MSI Afterburner to reduce the fan speed. You can start it via task scheduler at 3 minutes after logon.
Have you done the optimization?
- ← Context menu option to open Windows Explorer without navigation pane
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- How to optimize the windows registry? →


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Do you agree with the suggestion by Anonymous that the movement should become a registered political party?
Submitted by occupation blog on
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Let's not be another cog in the machine.
Submitted by ArsenicAlyss on
Our political system is broken. Conforming to it will perpetuate old inequalities and eventually force us into the same hierarchical processes and procedures that the other corrupt parties use.
I will find a way or make one. DIY or die. Occupy reality.
And the reaction???
Submitted by LovingFighter on
I understand your concern. I, myself, am at a loss on this issue. I don't know what to make of it. But I do think about it and I come up with these questions:
1)Do we think the powers that be will let their power slip away without fighting back? (And I'm not talking about just arresting people, but an escalation of repression not seen in decades.) And, if we don't think so, 2) what can we do without political power to address this issue?
Before we dismiss the idea shouldn't we discuss it??? I think by not discussing it we are underestimating the power of the State. According to history, the ruling class always reacts.
The Party of the 99
Submitted by panther on
I agree that we can and should find our own way! Nothing like to corrupt system we have now. A new way. A party is just a means for people to come together to get power. Power to have the kind of society we need. A society where all people have safe warm homes, nutritious food and clean water, quality public education, health care, access to music, art, and fun, and a job where we contribute to our society. The party of the 99 wouldn't be like any party before. If we don't have political power, we can't change the society in any major way. We will contantly be protesting and occupying parks. while those in political power (the 1% and their corporations and banks) continue to structure society in their interests.
WTF? If we don't have political power we can't change society?
Submitted by alhs06 on
Prolonged protest pressures politicians, building & launching a new party is impractical. We cant allow the current social brush fires to continue raging out of control. We don't have the time to build a new fire department before we douse the flames. Protest, march, boycott & shout!
My picture reads
"Sell a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you ruin a perfectly good business opportunity."
The 1% philosophy
Politics is POLITRICKS....
Submitted by Rebelwithoutapause on
To effect real change we need to stay out of politics. The constant cry of the downtrodden and disenfranchised is enough. We have a system that works as long as we hold our representitves accountable and vote they're sorry butts out if they sell out to corporate greed. The hippies and Martin Luther KIng didn't need a party. Niether do we.
Let's stick to the basics: Make noise, state our demands (clearly), boycott those that continue to do business the old way. Hitting them in the pocketbook is the only way.
====Rebel Without a Pause
The hippies and MLK?
Submitted by LovingFighter on
Need I remind you that they fell short of their goal?
I'm not saying that they failed bc they didn't have a party. All I'm saying is they failed, so you might not want to use them as examples.
I wouldn't say MLK failed
Submitted by Mahayana on
MLK and his speeches continue to move people to this day. His words still inspire many to take part and become activists or stand up against our oppressors. I would hardly consider that to be a failure.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves - in their separate, and individual capacities. -Abe
Don't take it literally
Submitted by LovingFighter on
I get your point. I didn't mean it like that. I just meant that perhaps those aren't good examples.
My point is that perhaps if movements became consolidated into a totality, which would be represented by a national organization, the movement could become greater than the sum of its parts. Would the State still "neutralize" people it deemed dangerous? Perhaps. But I think it'd be harder to do so. And if you think the capitalist State in the 21st century is above that kind of behavior, you are gravely mistaken.
I understand your concern LovingFighter...
Submitted by ArsenicAlyss on
It's just hard for me to get behind processes that are part of a government that from its origins has privileged the lives and voices of property-owning straight white men and built itself on the backs of everyone else. If we join their club and become a party, we will become very vulnerable to imitating their behavior. Being a party requires nominating candidates and picking leaders, and defining ourselves by a platform, and raising money...all things that have done us little good so far.
I am open to discussion though. I could probably move towards comfort with a political party if we had a very solid, radical accountability process in place.
I will find a way or make one. DIY or die. Occupy reality.
Thank you for your open mind!
Submitted by LovingFighter on
You make very valid points, and I actually agree with all of them. But I also believe that one can't remain pure in an impure world.
I am a firm supporter of this movement, but I have my critiques. For example, I think that whole 99% thing and the leaderless/leaderfull rhetoric are misleading. The movement already has leaders. They may not be the type of leaders that we're used to (Lenin, Obama, MLK, etc) but we have leaders. There are those who are very outspoken and willing to take up more work than others. These are leaders. They are not permanent leaders, but they are leaders. And I believe this movement needs them. I'm not oppossed to these kinds of leaders. And if we've been taught anything these past two weeks is that these leaders can be replaced/ignored if they stray from our core principles.
It is true that we will become vulnerable to imitating their behavior, were a 3rd party to be formed. The hierarchical structures are already set and our environment influences us. But I also think that we can influence our environment. For example, lots of people have donated commodities and money to the occupiers at City Hall, but I don't think this will eventually make the occupiers behave in an exploitative way. I guess my point is that we also have the power to affect the structures that surround us. If we didn't then we wouldn't even be able to think about social change.
Whether a political party is capable of the kind of structural organization that we've been seeing at the GA's (direct democracy), I don't know. One may also have critiques of Chavez and Morales in Venezuela and Bolivia. But these movements have done a lot for the poor. I'm not a determinist when it comes to social change. I don't believe it can be top-down ala 20th Century Socialism, but I also don't think it can be all grassroots. The reason for this is that the rich and powerful don't just vanish or change their minds about liking power. The way ideology works is crazy. Power becomes part of their character and their purpose, and they won't go down without a fight. If we can defend ourselves non-violently and without the state that's great. But every person I ask hasn't been able to address my concern. I don't think it's necessary to have all the answers, but at least on this issue it would really help to hear some good arguments. My mind is open, so if you have ideas feel free to share.
PS-I had no idea you were the one who wanted to start the affinity group. Awesome!
No to any political party
Submitted by gladiatorsteer on
I agree with the poster above that we need leaders, but like the zapatistas say "lead by obeying". leaders should lead by example and they should represent their respective "communities" and should be subject to the will of those communtites.
also, in my opinion, it is the whole political system that has to be changed. obviously this is a long process that could take many years but i truly see the beginning of such a change in these nightly council meetings. True democracy is a long and sometimes painfull process but i think its a small price to pay for a better world. a political party would definitely be a step in the wrong direction. i think one of the reasons that the movements in the 60's were so revolutionary is because they decided to break with all government parties and institutions wether they were democrat or socialist or communist or whatever. I also think we saw what happened when those movements decided to take the political party route. they ended up being absorbed by the system.
we should try to create something new. the people that overthrew the old monarchies created something new in the parliamentary system. now its time to overthrow the parliamentary system.
We DON'T need a party, we DO need Electoral Legitimacy
Submitted by ultrarad on
Until and unless the representational system is changed (and whether and how is an entirely different discussion) this movement only accomplishes anything insofar as it affects the existing system. So far it is only in the nebulous implied threat that the marginal voter influenced by or belonging to this movement might vote differently than he or she has in the past in favor of politicians who support some of the demands/agenda of the movement. It remains the case that politicians with different views secure in their re-election prospects can dismiss this movement as "a vocal minority" for as long as less than 50% of their constituents are visibly supportive, and dismiss marginal majorities with "they're not all citizens" and "they don't all vote."
Still, a forming a political party will take energies and resources better focused otherwise, without any guarantee of doing anything other than tipping the balance much the way the Nader 2000 campaign did.
What I suggest is that we do something that counters what corporations do with their lobbying machines: amend city and county charters to create elected People's Advocates who carry the same type of legitimacy as other elected representatives but: report to Constituent assemblies; serve only a single term; accept no campaign contributions; agree to refrain from paid lobbying, paid political consulting and competing in partisan elections for some period after their term; are required to conduct constituent polling; are given staff and administrative support; are subject to recall by petition without deadline; who lobby other representatives (e.g. with overlapping constituencies) on issues as directed by Constituent assemblies. Additionally, Advocates might be empowered to publish in sample ballots lists of issues in which representatives seeking re-election or different office failed to represent concerns advanced by Constituent Assemblies.
Of course this will not change everything, and in itself would be a woefully insufficient accomplishment for this movement. Nor will it address everything many in this movement are rightly concerned with. What it will do is create a routine process for regular access--or failing that, a clear and conspicuous indication of non-representation--for someone to bring forth issues of wide concern and engage in specific discussions about what will be done to address them, and report back as to what commitments were or were not made.
In other words, someone with an institutionally legitimate claim to represent the electorate without having attained it by virtue of the kind of election campaign or election issues that relate to who would be the best candidate for a particular portfolio of responsibilities (e.g. who would be the best mayor/senator/Commander-in-Chief, etc.) other than who will best respond to Constituent assemblies and make representatives come to account.
As a particularly relevant example, such an Advocate, if directed by constituents, could put the heat on representatives to propose/support a Constitutional Amendment to overturn the Citizens United ruling, and either gets action or forces representatives to reveal whom they represent through dialog in a very explicit way.
Radical also means staying critical and not drinking anyone's kool-aid.
Electoral Legitimacy
Submitted by eliminate2party... on
I love the picture you present, but feel that it, like creating a new party, would require a lengthy process of definition that doesn't appear realistic right now. I'd like to see all the Occupations start pushing for prioritized (aka instant runoff) voting with 'None of the Above' as a mandatory choice. With this method we would prioritize our selections and those with the least votes would be dropped and those voters' second choices counted in the next round until someone received >50%. If the winner were None of the Above, there would have to be another election. With this system, we could start to break the back of the two-party system, both of which parties are in collusion with big money, and we could vote for the few candidates who share our values without fearing that we're aiding someone worse, ala the Nader campaign.
For near-term effectiveness, I think we should have very visible voter registration tables at our encampments. I sympathize with those who feel that voting is participation with a corrupt system, but we need the threat of massive voter participation to get any of the changes we want. We know now that we won't be responding to promises and platitudes. They have a year to show us what changes they can make. We might vote; we might not; but we want the existing power structure to see that we're ready to make that choice.
Submitted by LovingFighter on
Almost 50% either agree or are undecided. Looks like a topic that deserves more discussion.
we should work for direct democracy
Submitted by meg on
The greatest thing about this movement, besides the ways in which it is completely changing political discourse in the country, is that it is modeling forms of direct democracy and self-organization that most people have come into little contact with. This should be what we put forward to people: not a party with a platform of demands, but a new way of being political and ethical actors in the world.
Could It Be a Real 3rd Party?
Submitted by Suspect_1 on
If the Green Party had this kind of Juice in 2008....
Corporate Media would not have been able to shut out Real People like
Cynthia McKinney & Rosa Clemente.
While I distrust All Partisan PoliTrix...
You have the eyes & ears of the World...
Use It Or Lose It !
Keep The Peace!
If the Green Party had followed Tea Party tactics...
Submitted by pauld108 on
The Green Party would have had much more power. Also, by putting their voices in the Democratic Party, the Green Party would have forced the party to chart a more progressive direction.
The Moment They Can Pin Us Down, We Lose.
Submitted by HopefulTara on
The wisdom of Naomi Klein should never be overlooked by this movement when she makes the point the that our strength lies in the fact that they cannot pin us down.
The greatest model for this movement is the brilliant legion of Anonymous, a true leaderless and democratic society with no hierarchy.
We must never allow ourselves to be painted into a corner, we must remain as the broadest of tents, with an open list to grievances if we are to continue to gain momentum.
No more "Hoping" for change, we have come to "Demand" the change, we are the 99%!
the power of the state
Submitted by LovingFighter on
Do not underestimate the power of the state. I think a big part of this movement does just that.
If the state really wanted to pin people down it would do so. They already got undercovers on the ground. It's not hard figuring out who are the individuals doing most of the work, the most outspoken, the most uplifting, etc.
The state didn't just go after the MLK's and the Malcolm X's of the 60's. The majority of the ones that were "neutralized" were the grassroots activists.
changing politics and ending them
Submitted by ItsAboutTime on
is going to have the same effect, I hope you can realize that if you were to change politics and 'our' system, it wouldn't be able to function and would fail, the system was programmed to fail, but make a few people really rich and powerful in the process, if you realize this you will then be able to understand why its got to go, come on now, we're a smart bunch, you tell me we can't think of a million ways to do it all better... i'm sure we could come up with a billion ways.. all based on logic and common sense, unlike now.
Overcome the shadow of control
The New Common Sense
Submitted by Joe Motor on
For now I say "no" But I do see many of us in the movement coming together and supporting some common ideas, This document is really getting around and really makes sense. It is a good start and show everyone we mean business . Please read and share.
Joe Motor
The New Common Sense, That is total BS & deeply shallow to
Submitted by alhs06 on
Some want change through the creation of a new party, Good Fu*king Luck.
Some want change through a mass overhaul of our current political incumbent's, Good Fu*king Luck.
Change can only be achieved by the constant pressure applied by the masses on the incumbent's in letting them know that we have woken up & are aware of their Debauchery. Until we as a society return to our hibernation deep in complacency once again.
American's, as individuals are relatively smart, but as a group we are remarkably ignorant, & this breeds corruption by the corrupt. As the Politicians, Lobbyist's & Power Broker's have learned & developed a skill set for the profitable abuses in working with this knowledge. When we as a group become educated & voice our knowledge through forceful methods as demonstration, protest & the boycott, the corrupt lose the skill set built on our ignorance.
We need to remove the virus, not just replace our firewall. capice?
My picture reads
"Sell a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you ruin a perfectly good business opportunity."
The 1% philosophy
"Play Dirty" to Compete
Submitted by Nota Doormat on
As we can all plainly see, politics in the United States is locked into a corrupt two party system. Not all of our politicians are corrupt (Bernie Sanders, Sharrod Brown, Dennis Kucinich, Tom and Mark Udall and maybe a few others), but most have soldout to their corporate overlords. It is the corrupt politicians who are threatened by the very existance of the #Occupy Movement. But now, the Movement must cause political actions to occur. I submit this astute letter from an imprisoned climate activist Tim Dechristopher: http://www.grist.org/politics/2011-11-14-letter-from-a-climate-activist-...
We really don't have a choice
Submitted by legalizitt on
If we really truely want to affect change, the Party already in place is our Party, the People's Party, the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party has become, in many respects, as bad as the Republican Party, but it's not too late to bring it back to its roots.
Social conservatives have jacked the GOP, taking it from the Party that represents the interests of business, and morphing it into a faux-moral, faux-religious, faux-social rightwing Party. Make no mistake, the GOP is still the Party of business; they are hiding behind the curtains of the social conservatives, and they are doing it for the votes. Karl Rove saw the power of Rush Limbaugh and the religious right, and aligned the Party with them, and then Fox News came about in the wake.
When the GOP wasn't catering to their hard line demands, they branched off into the Tea Party, and have taken over the controls.
We can and should do the same to the Democratic Party, after all, it is the Party of The People and its intent is to counterbalance the Party of Business. We have the opportunity to force the Democratic Representatives to actually represent us, or elect Democrats who will.
Learn from the Tea Party
Submitted by pauld108 on
I disagree with the Tea Party objective but do respect their tactics. Like the Occupy movement, its leaders had three choices: A) Be a social movement, B) Form a new political party, or C) Take over an existing party which is most closely aligned with their cosmology. The Tea Party leaders also recognized two facts: Fact #1: It takes less people, time, and money to take over an existing poligical party. Fact #2: The way to control a political party is to control the primary elections. The mere threat of a primary challenge caused the tail to wag the dog.
I am not sure this is the way to go but this strategy clearly works. BTW, if the "Green Party" had followed Tea Party tactics by taking over the Democratic Party, we would have better policies and candidates who actually were elected. Instead, the Green Party helps elect Repulblicans by dividing the progressive vote.
Submitted by Stevenoverturf on
Although a third non-corrupt party would be good, I fear it may cancel out 60% of America's voices and everyone must be heard. If there is a third party instead of requiring 60% or more votes to be elected it will only take a minimum of 34%. If two parties get 33% Then it goes to the one with 34% and all those people who voted for the other two, well their votes go to the 34%. Only way I could conceive the thought in my mind to have a third candidate in elections is if afterwards there was a 'Run Off' election in which, once again the candidate will require 60% or more votes.
The United Occupy Party
Submitted by G. Paumer on
The mechanisms of this political system of ours have long been established. The system is not going anywhere. We all agree it needs to be changed, but we cannot change the game if we are not players in it. I don't believe we should try to reinvent democracy. The system is not broken per se, it's the people within it. They lack morality. Unfortunately, we are all human and fall short in one way or another.
We need to form a "shadow" party. One that uses a similar structure as the current political system to elect our leaders. With the use of current technologies, the United Occupy "Party" could be a party without jumping through the established hoops. A system could be bulit that maintains a database of the members of the party, and via internet, used to inform them of actions, causes, fundraisers, and elections. Like the great (sarcasm) Grover Norquist, our power would come not from actually having elected representatives, but having weighted influence on them. Think about it..."The Occupy Party endorses..."
There is a link to the United Occupy Party petition at MoralRecession.com - I believe it is the next step. Sign it if you agree.
The fist
Submitted by Alfuk Uinurmowth on
I Like that picture of the black fist it's nice!
Hi everyone, I'm not filthy, scabie and lice ridden OWS sewage are you?
What's next?
Submitted by macbug on
If the OWS/LA does not become a political party, then what? Not being involved in politics by the general populations is what got us into this mess in the first place. A registered political party would take work and compromise that could be a big problem given the extreme passions that run through our group. BUT it is doable if we could look at the big picture. OK we all know it stinks but, what made it stink? The answer could be our absence and corporate money, too many unemployed lawyers in politics? Yes to a degree, but what really did it, was a lack of political contrast caused by the practice of using polls to find out what people wanted to hear, then forming your message to say it. Neither of the big parties have a true political philosophy, they change it every election. That is the opportunity for a 3rd party with an unshakable philosophy of "The PEOPLE FIRST on all issues. Seems simple right? I can hear rush, and beck all ready their communists, or socialist etc. blah, blah blah...
Stay Angry and vote...
I think it would be interesting...
Submitted by iiulcer on
I think it would be interesting to have a party back the social movement, and introduce fresh, revolutionary ideas into traditional politics. With the internet as it is, we have the technology nowadays to be able to engage the people directly by establishing an open forum and discussing political actions. I think it's possible to establish a sort of dynamic identity as a party, but we'd have to get people who are really good at playing telephone from the municipal level up to the federal government. That is, we need people who see the socio-political economic picture at each level (micro to macro) and keep everyone informed of the situation they're seeing, so we have eyes and ears at every level. I think we need to establish good municipal level representation and build up communication so that the voice of the people grows louder at each level. We don't necessarily have to be followers to party "leaders." The people ultimately are the leaders, each and every one of us should be taking action. Instead of relying on elite economists to tell us what's going on, we could have an online discussion with all the interested economists in california, and that discussion should be open to the public. I think it does beg the question of what we need in terms of leadership and who would be the best people to keep the group informed and cohesive, does it need to be people who focus on conflict resolution? educators/people who can convey info well? If there is a problem with the vote splitting, then doesn't that just mean that the party needs to evolve to be able to address everybody's needs? Give voice even to your "opponents." Whatever that means anyways. At every level, I think we're just people who need our grievences met, and we need to learn how to function cohesively as a national team. I think if occupy does form a party it would give them more control in crafting targeted regulatory win-win situations.


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Clay Local Schools recently held its annual Night of the Arts event May 4, where art, choir and band students participated in one big showcase. This year's event was something special for the band students, having Ohio State University band director Jon Woods as a special guest conductor. Woods has been known to lend his expertise to Clay in the past, but for some students, this is a first and only opportunity to experience being conducted by someone like Woods.
"A lot of students represented band, art and choir; this year's Night of the Arts was fabulous," high school band director Alice Maggard said. "Having Dr. Jon Woods come and conduct was a great experience for the students, especially for the ones that this would be a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity."
Maggard went to Ohio State University for graduate school, where she had Woods as a professor for several classes. She built a friendship with him, which helped attract Woods to Clay, even with a busy schedule.
"It is a very humbling experience to have your students learn from someone that was your mentor in your career," Maggard said. "I felt very blessed."
On top of preparing for the Night of the Arts, the band recently participated in the Cincinnati Music Festival Competition, where six other bands participated in their class. The music they played in the competition was a few of the selections they showcased for the Night of the Arts.
"Dr. Woods listened to the music that we were going to play for the competition as well, and gave me notes on how to improve it," Maggard said. "The contest went very well, the students were very professional, the judges gave us great review, and the entire thing had a great outcome. We placed Outstanding in their class and we had an outstanding percussion session."
Abby Harris, three-year member of the Clay Local band, is a flautist who recently switched from percussion, and learned a lot about her new instrument from Woods.
"Dr. Woods was a very quiet man, but made the piece sound so much better once he was done with it," Harris said. "When Mrs. Maggard conducted us, the music sounded much different than when he had us play it; Mrs. Maggard had us playing the song slower and with longer notes, but Dr. Woods changed the tempo to be a little faster and tongue the notes shorter."
Mary Shelby, five-year member of band, is a flautist and plays auxiliary percussion. Shelby has considered attending OSU. She said she was excited to work with Woods.
"It was a great experience to get to talk with Dr. Woods and have him conduct for us; he was a great addition to our music and I am very appreciative that he could fit us into his busy schedule," Shelby said. "Dr. Woods was very, very professional about his conducting and it's obvious that he knows what he is doing. Mrs. Maggard helped us get our music to the level that we had it though, and she also made it possible for Dr. Woods to come. She always wants us to have the best experience possible and I really appreciate that she worked hard to get Dr. Woods here to work with us. She is just an awesome band instructor."
Even with the band having the special guest conductor to steal the show at Clay's annual Night of the Arts spring event, there was a lot of different art showcased and the kids still kept everyone else in mind.
"The Night of the Arts gets better each year and it's just really great to be a part of," longtime member of the band Taylor Swayne said.
The band also had junior high members on stage performing with the high school. Levi Nelson is one of those students and he was glad to have the chance to learn from Woods.
"Dr. Woods taught us a lot about our breathing, better ways to play, and how to read our notes faster," Nelson said. "Dr. Woods really helped us out a lot and we were just so excited to have him here and it was an honor that he was able to come conduct us and also play with us."


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I had an ultrasound last week. They think it's a girl! I'm so excited!!
You are here
Aww congratulations! :D
yay! congrats!
congrats!! girls are great.
yah.. awesome.
thought of any names?
As for names, I can't decide. I thought boy names were easier. I don't have any names I especially like, and then when I find one I like it will mean "virginal" or something silly like that. The middle name is gonna be Rae though.
Congrats! aww isn't it exciting to find out you can buy all those cute little pink clothes and stuff? Finding out mine was a girl was like...the BEST day!
Congratulations-i am having a lil boy and were naming him Tyson. When are you due? I am due August 8th-almost here!
gongrats. good luck
congratulations!! Good luck!
yay. congrats. my middle is Rae, it is a good name. Lol. Anyway have fun, a lot of names go with Rae
Jamie, That is when Simon was born. He was suppose to be born the 4th though. He just refused to come out.


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the birth of the digital divide
"We are fully committed to turning this digital divide into a digital opportunity for all, particularly for those who risk being left behind and being further marginalized." – Declaration of Principles from the World Summit of the Information Society, Geneva, 2003.
In April 1968, JCR Licklider and Robert W Taylor published a paper in the journal, Science and Technology appropriately entitled The Computer as a Communication Device. In this seminal and ground-breaking work, the authors explained an experiment undertaken amongst a group of scientists to communicate through machines. What today we take for granted as a part of our everyday lives was only a possibility in the minds of a number of intrepid scientists paving the way for the technological revolution we are all currently witnessing. This seemingly simple experiment, to pass an electronic message from one machine at a certain location, to another machine at a separate location, required the resources of the most powerful computers (AR PANET) and the greatest minds. Although the message to be passed was LOGIN, the only letters received at the other end were "LO". The system then proceeded to crash, ending the experiment, but starting a revolution. This was the first time humans had communicated with each other through a computer. Although it is nigh impossible to determine the moment the Internet was born, but based upon what the Internet has become today, namely the greatest tool and facilitator for the sharing of information and communication in the history of mankind, those two simple letters passed across a network, not encumbered by geography, certainly qualifies as its birth. This seemingly benign, and oft-overlooked moment 40 years ago, also, it can be argued, has the ignoble honour of being the birth of the digital divide. The fissure that then developed between those with access to technology and information, and those without access to information resources began to grow. The digital divide was born. This began the movement from the industrial age to a technological one. Nowhere was this divide felt as strongly as Africa. With little access to technology and even less access to resources to redress the balance, the continent was certainly on the wrong side of this technological divide. This ever growing rift is now finally being addressed. Throughout the African continent, a seismic paradigm shift has occurred, making access to information and communication technologies no longer a luxury, but a genuine necessity and priority. Whether a farmer in the High Atlas or a business executive in Cape Town, the transformative power of technology has been proven. Across the continent, there is an uniqueness and heterogeneity to every member of the family of African nations, yet they are all distinctly African, and it is this African-ness that must be tapped into in order to address the main issues of the digital divide. Through organizations such as International Telecommunications Union, a blueprint has been laid out and goals set. Setting these benchmarks has meant that a measurable target has been forged, and as societies and human beings, we will be judged on whether we attained the Millennium Development Goals set out in Rwanda in 2007, and repeated in Geneva in 2009. In this context, education becomes integral to reaching and surpassing the Millennium Development Goals. Education must provide the glue to create societies whereby each generation builds upon its predecessor to leave a lasting legacy of betterment through ICT's. It becomes only possible to achieve parity between the technological haves and have nots, across the planet once these issues are addressed. The African success story can be used as an example for other markets. The pre-paid mobile telephony model, and Mobile Banking are potentially only a few innovations where Africa leads the world. With only approximately 4.3% of the African population currently online and with access to the Internet, the next challenge facing policy-makers is to ensure the egalitarian spread of accessibility to be able to provide Universal Access. Access to information and communication should only ever be an arms length away. Whether it is in the form of a mobile phone, a computer or a fixed line phone, it has become a basic human right to have access to technology. The recognition of the need for access to technology was stated in Geneva (2003), Tunis (2005), Kigali (2007) and affirmed recently in Geneva (2009). The goals are simple, noble and universal: "To build a people-centred, inclusive and development-oriented Information Society, where everyone can create, access, utilize and share information and knowledge, enabling individuals, communities and peoples to achieve their full potential in promoting their sustainable development and improving their quality of life, premised on the purposes and principles of the Charter of the United Nations and respecting fully and upholding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights." What began 40 years ago in a laboratory in California, has today become one the single most important aspects of human life. Whether in the bustling urban centres across Africa, or remote rural villages, the desire to connect has become as urgent as sustenance and shelter, and as it is our duty as human beings to eradicate poverty, war and disease, it is similarly our duty to bridge the digital divide and to bring the benefits of the technological revolution to every citizen, whether in Lagos or London, New York or New Delhi. With the emergence of the Semantic Web, and the very genuine possibility of the latent potential within GRI D computing (CERN), the African continent cannot afford to be further isolated and to allow the divide to grow further. It is within this environment that the 53 nations that make up the African continent find themselves on the eve of 2010.
q&a with brian herlihy of seacom
In light of our feature article in this edition of Africa Telecoms, briefly describe how you feel about Seacom assisting with breaching the digital divide in Africa?
SEACOM is providing a large broadband connection to global networks. Consumers will be using the internet in ways they wouldn't think of today: on-demand movies, music, home-made video, watching news programs, etc. With new web applications and uses being discovered daily, the potential economic benefits of affordable bandwidth are endless. In Africa, it is projected that there will be a major demand for bandwidth driven by some of the following "hotspots":
• Tanzania is growing a logistics hub for eight East & Central African countries
• Uganda and Zambia are set to develop strong pharmaceutical research centres
• Kenya is looking at becoming a call centre hub with a major focus on Small & Medium Enterprises
• Rwanda, which has developed a visionary broadband strategy, is looking to establish a hub of bilingual call centres.
SEACOM often hears stories about the impact of inexpensive bandwidth on global Internet content in Europe, North America and Asia; however, SEACOM has seen much African-produced content that will vastly benefit the world. Recently, we met with a research group that is gathering data from traditional healers on homeopathic medicines. We were amazed to learn of the information being gathered and the potential to add to medical research globally. SEACOM's partnership with southern African research and education networks through TENET (Tertiary Education and Research Network of South Africa) will facilitate faster development by providing subsidised international bandwidth to research and education networks across 40 universities. These education and research institutions now have 50 times more bandwidth at the same annual cost prior to the arrival of SEACOM. Bandwidth now equals the amount which was available to the entire Southern African population in 2008. TENET owns the capacity for the remaining life of the cable, resulting in substantial annual savings whilst enabling the affiliated institutions to develop and increase their international research collaborations and distance learning programmes. SEACOM is working to replicate this programme in East Africa.
Do you have an example of this scenario already or is it too soon?
We've already seen a decline in international long haul prices at the end consumer level. In East Africa specifically, Kenya's progressive approach to telecoms, has resulted in large amounts of bandwidth being made available at a fraction of the cost, resulting in a reported 200% increase in data traffic within 14 days of SEACOM's launch. South Africa has disappointed SEACOM in translating low cost international bandwidth into reduced consumer price. This is largely due to the major operators investing in their own cables and slowing any adoption of our cable. They also have a large consumer dependence on the incumbent's terrestrial backhaul and last mile, limiting the ability for ISPs and operators to pass on savings. There has been a marked improvement though. In September 2009, for example, MTN announced a 50% increase in capacity for certain corporate clients in South Africa while Telkom and M-web also announced similar increases. Connectivity is now available, and it's up to governments and internet service providers to pass on savings and capacity to their customers, circumventing constraints and bottlenecks wherever possible.
What is your opinion regarding cheaper broadband which will benefit those who already have access to the internet against those of those who currently have no access ?
Through supplying plentiful bandwidth at a fraction of the current cost, there is no doubt that SEACOM's arrival opens up unprecedented opportunities for governments, business and ordinary citizens alike. They can finally make use of a network which forms a platform to compete globally, drive economic growth and enhance quality of life. Providing broader access to Information and Communications Technologies (ICT) in Africa is a catalyst to unlocking sustainable economic and social development. By supporting a broad range of stakeholders its possible to develop, create growth and promote the continent as a serious player in the global economy.
From this point onwards, what do you think the next step is?
Now that Africa has a solid fibre backbone what more is needed in order to finally bridge the digital divide? An open and liberal approach to telecommunications is essential. Governments hold the key in allowing businesses to exploit ICT-linked opportunities which will enable the acceleration of broadband penetration. There is also the catalyst effect that needs to be considered. Undersea cables will justify an investment in national fibre, fibre to the home, new wireless networks, data centres, call centres and BPOs.
What has been the biggest hurdle thus far with the Seacom Project?
SEACOM is offering one, seamless product to end-users, across 11 sovereign nations. Some of our challenges were tax and contract related. SEACOM, as an international entity, had to figure out how to sign contracts at a local level and then deliver that product throughout all the countries we were involved with. SEACOM had to use its subsidiaries and local partners in each one of these countries, who were already licensed and established, to carry communication infrastructure. You're trying to set that up in a very short period – keeping in mind that construction of the cable is really only 18 to 24 months. The availability of human resources which could interact with a venture such as SEACOM was also a challenge in some countries.
With only a small amount of capacity sold thus far and a total expected capacity of 1280Gbps, what is the projected time-frame that Seacom is working towards in having the full capacity sold and used throughout Africa?
We have seen capacity purchase continue at a healthy pace since the launch. In fact, we were pleasantly surprised to see East Africa leading the charge. As demand increases and users find new ways to utilise the Internet and overall connectivity, we will experience an exponential trend in capacity requirements leading to more purchases. From an investment perspective, we expect a return on this investment within five years.
In your estimation, what effect will the partnership with Altech's KDN have on Broadband access in Central Africa?
From the outset of the project, we realised the importance of connecting inland countries to the international network and many countries set out to deploy massive terrestrial networks in anticipation of the arrival of real and affordable international bandwidth connectivity. With more and more countries getting connected to the rest of the world via the SEACOM system, it is only a matter of time before we see the direct socio-economic benefits this will have on the entire region. The African market for international bandwidth is expected to swell within a short period of time, with a significant portion of this new demand coming from East and central Africa. Altech and SEACOM have taken a giant step towards unlocking this enormous potential in East Africa. Our success would not be possible without the infrastructure which links our beach landing stations to metropolitan PoPs (Point of Presence). KDN's extensive inland infrastructure in East Africa will link our landing station in Mombasa to Nairobi, then on to Kampala and Kigali. In addition, we hope to connect Kigali and Addis Ababa soon and will continue to explore further opportunities across central African countries.
Are there future plans to extend the SEACOM network to the west coast of Africa or is the current network as far as the project is planned at the moment?
Although no specific plans are in place at this point, we will continuously evaluate all opportunities and strategic options to compliment and improve our current offering.
What impact will SEACOM's cable have on traditional voice communications in Africa or is SEACOM purely going to provide data services to the continent?
Access to previously unobtainable, cheap and easily available broadband will allow East and Southern Africa to connect to international broadband networks. The infrastructure should see Africa becoming a major competitor for call centres/business process outsourcing (BPO), research and education. Financial, manufacturing and other sectors will bring down their cost of doing business while increasing their productivity. This will, in part, be possible through the provision of cheaper traditional voice calls using fibre networks. As an example, Gateway Communications has purchase significant capacity on SEACOM.
q&a with Shaneel Ramamand of Cambridge Broadband Networks
This Issue of Africa Telecoms is focusing on Backhaul as a subsector of the Telecoms Market in Africa. What do you think the most challenging area is for Mobile Operators in Africa when it comes to Backhaul?
Mobile operators in Africa are facing the same issues as network operators in many parts of the world: building their networks to meet the quality of experience their customers expect while earning the profits their shareholders demand. From the vendor perspective, it's whether you make your customers money or save them money. Backhaul is frequently seen as a spiraling expense, we believe we have a solution that gets that situation under control at a cost that is very attractive compared to the alternatives.
CBNL is also stated at having 30 deployments around the world and helps 2G,3G, HSPA, Wimax and LTE Networks. How many of the deployments are in Africa? Can you provide further insight into your operations in Africa?
Certainly, our presence in Africa has grown considerably over the last three years. We currently have five network deployments with MTN in countries including Rwanda, Nigeria and South Africa. All in all, we have eight networks operating in Africa including deployments with Vodacom, Gateway and Inwi. We also recently renewed our framework agreement with MTN group which was announced in October last year. Each of MTN's operating companies now has access to a range of pre-approved VectaStar microwave backhaul equipment which has been validated for a range of applications, including backhaul of 2G, WiMAX and 3G network traffic, and the provision of broadband Internet access services to businesses. The FIFA World Cup was a significant catalyst for growth of South Africa's ICT and mobile telecoms sector. Operators have made substantial infrastructure investments and service upgrades that will benefit subscribers for years to come. In particular, HSPA+ has given consumers significant improvements in data speeds.
CBNL states that it is a market leader in Point to Multi Point backhaul solutions. Can you explain the differences between the CBNL products and traditional solutions?
There are a few fundamental differences between our products in comparison to traditional solutions such as Point-to-Point (PtP), but let me briefly highlight how VectaStar works. Our technology uses transmission architecture similar to broadcast standards, where a central hub communicates with a number of remote terminals within a sector. Spectrum and capacity is shared across the sector giving operators the flexibility to manage network resources and provision those resources to a certain cellsite, if and when, required. This is inherently different to PtP which uses two radios per connection on a one-to-one basis. Spectrum is tied to each of these connections and is unable to be reassigned to another cell site that maybe experiencing a higher footfall. Essentially VectaStar is different because it simplifies microwave backhaul networks, reducing the number of radios needed to create each sector, which in result makes them cheaper and faster to build and reduces backhaul costs by up to 60%.
At the end of 2010, CBNL had a major round of financing that was raised, and Graham Peel, CEO, stated that the financing would be used to drive product development as well as sales and support. Is Africa one of the regions that CBNL will be focusing on in 2011?
Absolutely, our growth plans include increasing the scale of our operations across Africa, particularly in the Sub-Saharan region and Nigeria. With mobile internet access in Africa growing exponentially and with many operators in the region deploying or looking to deploy 3G services over the next few years, CBNL has a strong opportunity to help operators manage and provision their enterprise access and backhaul networks for this increase in lumpy data traffic.
The ever-growing data market in Africa is a great opportunity for CBNL as backhaul becomes more and more important for network operators. Where does CBNL see this market moving to, and how is CBNL helping operators face the issues of mobile data backhaul?
You're right there is a great opportunity. We've seen a huge amount of optimism from mobile operators in the uptake of mobile devices including tablets across Africa. Bringing 'mobile to the masses' in Africa has a significant upside for all concerned. For operators and device manufacturers, as well as all other companies involved in the installation and operation of the networks and services, there is obviously an opportunity for new revenue growth, as well as the economic benefit it will provide to a much wider community. To help operators meet the demand that this growth causes, our technology is ideal for African operators as it allows them to make efficient use of scarce spectrum resources and at the same time, ensure that provision is made for peak data throughput.
How does CBNL ensure the quality of service of data and/or voice running through its Microwave point to multipoint system?
VectaStar offers four priority classes which are numbered 0 (the highest), to 3 (the lowest) and each service is allocated to one class. Therefore, bandwidth is firstly offered to the highest priority class and the remaining bandwidth is then offered to the next class. Prioritisation is used in conjunction with Adaptive Modulation. All radio links suffer from fading and typically the longer the link and the higher the frequency, the more frequent the fading will be. Therefore, radio links are planned to take account of the inevitable fading to ensure that they are reliable in the presence of a fading environment. When they are properly designed, radio links can provide 99.999% availability. With seven levels of adaptive modulation built into VectaStar, the system ensures the best possible performance in all weather conditions.
How well does the CBNL Microwave systems integrate with existing legacy terrestrial networks?
VectaStar is actually a new topology for microwave backhaul. Therefore the most efficient way to integrate it with existing terrestrial microwave systems would be to use VectaStar as an overlay in dense urban situations. This overlay can also be applied to support the deployment of 3G networks throughout the region leaving traditional point to point microwave to deal with the rural situations where it is still efficient.
Does the CBNL Vectastar platform increase or decrease OPEX and CAPEX and what payback period can the operators expect?
It decreases both CAPEX and OPEX. It does this by reducing the amount of equipment that needs to be deployed – thereby reducing installation labour which is a major contributor to CAPEX. Once installed, VectaStar has a smaller footprint, reducing site and antenna space rental costs. It uses a lot less radio spectrum which reduces annual costs as well. It is difficult to give an exact ROI figure that applies to every situation, but we frequently find that the reduction in CAPEX and OPEX as well as the time to build the network is 50% less than the alternatives so you can see that the improvement in ROI is significant.
With Infrastructure sharing becoming more and more important internationally, does the Vectastar system allow for the potential of Mobile Operators sharing backhaul infrastructure?
Good question. It really depends on how the sharing is structured by operators. If they are using a common RAN the process of sharing is relatively simple for VectaStar to support. However, if the sharing is only site based then the different equipment at each site could present issues for any backhaul vendor. Our answer would be to work with operators to come up with the right solution-but it's fair to say that we haven't found a network that we can't backhaul, yet.
Can the current price curve of mobile backhaul keep up with the cost of flash memory and broadband data to ensure that the end cost to consumers remains on a downward curve?
Absolutely, in all cases microwave capacity is growing faster than the aggregated traffic coming from cell sites. In fact, CBNL has been developing a new radio controller that will eventually achieve 1GB/s throughput per sector – with the first inclination doubling our current throughput level to 300mb/s. The biggest challenge for the industry is reducing the cost and time spent in building the backhaul network in the first place. That is an area where our product, VectaStar, excels: our product takes a fraction of the time to provision a connection when compared to the alternatives – enabling our customers to build-out their networks quickly and capture the market from their competitors.
Does the Vectastar system allow for the use of Carrier Grade Ethernet as well as Microwave transmission?
Yes it does. All our VectaStar platforms include Ethernet interfaces and offer throughput of 150mb/s. With the recent introduction of the VectaStar Radio Controller, based on a Gigabit Ethernet backplane supporting up to 10GB/s sustained operation, we will increase throughput to 1GB/s per sector.
guest editorial by Mwambu Wanendeya of Ericsson
There have been many exciting things happening recently at Ericsson but one major highlight was the IMS MMTel launch in Rwanda. This was the first commercial deployment of IMS solutions across Africa and is allowing MTN Rwandacell customers to talk to and see friends and family, no matter where they are. Subscribers can start a real-time voice call and upgrade it to a video call or use a chat session which gives a new and more extensive communication possibility. They can also add new users to an ongoing call and start a conference. Pre-paid as well as post-paid subscribers can benefit from these new communication services even if the users are outside Rwanda. This IP (MMTel) based solution brings people closer together through video and chat communication and introduces a more flexible and modern lifestyle. In the future, consumers will be able to define their own rules for how and when they like to communicate. Depending on their own preferences, users can redirect voice calls to one device and video calls to another device in any order and at any time. IMS MMTel is a standardized solution for offering Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) based high quality telephony and multimedia services. IMS MMTel will play a major role in the service control of voice and multimedia communication services in the transformation to IP and Long Term Evolution (LTE) networks. The IMS MMTel is the solution for cost-effective communication service production and the platform for offering new services. New enriched, flexible, fast and costefficient multimedia services entering the market enable MTN Rwandacell to fully utilize their up-to-date network to provide more novel and high quality communication services. In addition to this exciting project in Rwanda, Ericsson has been involved in several other important initiatives in the last few months – including the creation of Africa's first "Digital City" in collaboration with the City of Johannesburg. The recently launched Johannesburg Broadband Network Project has focused on connecting the City of Johannesburg through the laying of next-generation fibre optic network cables while leveraging Ericsson's Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) technology in order to deliver faster and more reliable broadband services. Upon completion, this will cover all eight regions in the City of Johannesburg, providing voice and broadband access alongside a variety of relevant solutions in various fields such as education, health and even power. We would like to thank you for the support you provide Ericsson and ask you to please stay tuned for more exciting and technological breakthroughs from us!


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Teams 2915A & 2941D have been crowned the 2013 VEX Robotics World Champions for Sack Attack!. Overall New Zealand has done a magnificent effort in the World Championships again with the following awards
World Champions
2915A Lynfield College
2941D Otumoetai College
World Finalists
2941A Otumoetai College
Robot skills Champions
1st 2915A Lynfield College
2nd 2941A Otumoetai College
World Educate Award
Glenfield College for their astounding integration of robotics into their curriculum. One students comment that robots we use in biology in an 'is it alive?' question really impressed the judges.
Division Champions
New Zealand Won 3 of the 5 high school divisions!
Final Results |
School/University |
Place/number of teams |
2941B Otumoetai College (Science) |
Quarter Finalist |
2915A Lynfield College (Technology) |
Champions |
2918A Glenfield College (Technology) |
Quarter Finalist |
2941D Otumoetai College (Technology) |
Champions |
2911C Avondale College (Engineering) |
Semi Finalist |
2919A Kristin School (Engineering) |
Semi Finalist |
2911A Avondale College(Arts) |
Champions |
2921B Albany Home School (Arts) |
Champions |
2941A Otumoetai College (Math) |
Champions |
FEAR Massey University (College) |
Quarter Finalists |
Math Division Amaze Award
2941A Otumoetai College
Technology Division Community Award
2918A Glenfield College
Science Division Think Award
2941B Otumoetai College
Spirit Division Amaze Award
7682 ACG Strathallan
College Division Create Award
FEAR Massey University Palmerston North
This is the home of The Kiwibots and VEX Robotics within New Zealand. Here you will find information on how to get involved in the exciting world of robotics competitions and when and where to find them
The nationals this year raised the standard of events another notch. Thanks to everyone who competed and volunteered for making it a great event. New Zealand you did yourselves proud!
Another great wrap video created by Studio 274 and some of the event photos.
The 2013 Nationals results can be found from the Results & Awards section!
This game is designed to be fast and playable by all teams that have Robots as it is limited to what comes in a classroom kit. We want you to go out, have fun with simple robots and recrute new team members.
The rules for Ramp it Up!' Version 4 can be found here
Rule clarifications
We have added #32 rubber bands and omni wheels as a legal competition elements! You can buy the rubber bands at most stationery shops for very little.
We want you to design robots and practice, even holding small scrimmages in your area so you can prepare for Kiwi Challenge regionals.
WelTec, Futureintech and Kiwibots have joined forces to bring the exciting world of VEX Robotics to secondary schools in the greater Wellington region. Students will be able to engage with each other and their robots in a supportive and fun filled environment. http://www.weltec.ac.nz/SUBJECTAREAS/VEXRobotics/tabid/1224/Default.aspx
There is much more information about VEX in New Zealand but you'll have to register to access it!
Being gracious in victory is sometimes more difficult than defeat. While the events are competitive, all team members are prepared to assist other teams so they can perform at their best
Good Luck to all this season!