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How Would You Rate Obama's State of the Union Speech?
Do you think the president's speech swayed any undecided voters?
Our Patch live blog of the State of the Union has wrapped up, but that doesn't mean the discussion is over!
The White House has offered to answer a few questions submitted by Patch users across the nation now that the speech is done. It's a great opportunity to take your question right to Washington without leaving home.
The result will look something like this video of first lady Michelle Obama answering a fitness question.
To submit your question, post it in the comments below with your real name, the town where you live and, if you'd like, your Twitter handle.
You have until 11 a.m. Wednesday to post your question.
And if you missed the live blog, just hit the "play" button above to review the lively discussion from your fellow Patch readers.
Adrienne Duncan
1:51 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
How about live blogging local events as well like the public event on the Zoning rewrite that Dunwoody has been buzzing about for months?
Michael Jacobs
2:18 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Great question, Adrienne. We live-blog all kinds of things at Patch. Today, for example, we have live blogs of county commissioner meetings in Paulding and Cobb counties. We do City Council meetings, school boards, sports events. While Peter answered your question about the zoning meeting, you and all other Patch users should always feel free to suggest events worthy of live coverage to your local editors. Thanks!
don Gabacho
3:49 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Adrienne, are you satisfied with Jacob's response?
"Great question, Adrienne. We live-blog all kinds of things at Patch. Today, for example, we have live blogs of county commissioner meetings in Paulding and Cobb counties. We do City Council meetings, school boards, sports events. While Peter answered your question about the zoning meeting, you and all other Patch users should always feel free to suggest events worthy of live coverage to your local editors. Thanks!
Since when has Jacobs been one of "we of the Patch" (too)?
Chad Smith
11:59 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
Nothing better than live blogging the drafting of a zoning code. "Is that a run-on sentence? Put a comma there!" Adrienne - do me a favor and move out of town. You probably are a renter.
Peter Cox
2:11 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Thanks for your comment. I will definitely be covering tonight's meeting, though based on the consultant's description of how it will be run, I'm no sure it will be a great event for live blogging. We'll have a story up tomorrow morning though and I'll try to get video of his presentation too.
What goes around comes around
9:52 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Peter, you're the best! Thank you!
6:11 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Oops! here's the question:
"How will we streamline our zoning timeline to be competitive with other jurisdictions?"
Brandon Roberts
9:00 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
I believe his speech will be about getting himself re-elected!
Neil Stapley
8:46 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012
Any State of the Union speech by any president is about getting them selves re-elected.
carla parris
9:17 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
We are in family room watching state of union with 10 of my Lilburn neighbors and 10 students from Parkview democrat group.
Judy Rayford
3:50 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Outstanding Thank you was not able to attend a watch group sorry wanted to go to the one on Bogg
Thanks again keep up the excellent efforts
carla parris
9:29 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Why should companies get tax breaks to ship jobs out of country
2:01 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
It's mind-numbing to watch the left chase their tails on the "shipping jobs out of the country" issue. The left sets up an environment that encourages (& sometimes forces) businesses to leave the US, and then blames everyone but themselves for what's going on.
On one hand the left screams for labor, environmental and economic regulations that make it impossible for businesses to operate in the US (let alone prosper), and on the other scream for globalization. Then when companies and jobs logically (& sometimes necessarily) move elsewhere, they scream that the evil businesses are killing the middle class.
& this just scratches the surface. There is sooo much more to this issue than anyone ever take the time to think about.
8:51 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
@ Chris - You're right, re: labor, environmental, and economic regulations. However, these are things that are a bi-product not of just "the left", but of our growth as a country as a whole. When you're considered the wealthiest and most powerful nation on the earth, people are going to attempt to improve the lot of the nation as a whole, which means things like minimum wages. I can't opine to where the appropriate equilibrium is, but I don't think I'd want to see American workers enduring the same conditions that Chinese laborers do.
As far as the environmental regulations, that is more of a - we created this mess, and now we need to set an example as to how it should be cleaned up. With the rapid development of Asia, Latin America, etc., which are all full of people vying to become the new middle class, which means consuming like the middle class, in a world facing considerable strains on resources from energy to agriculture, something has to be done. Capping emissions, or developing technology to find new sources of energy/food are the only options. However, in order to do these things, we need well educated people - something that "the right" has actively worked against. The President hit the nail on the head when he bemoaned the fact that people from all over the world are coming to the U.S. to get an education, and then going elsewhere to use that education to develop something groundbreaking. Immigration reform changes that, and we know where the "right" is.
David Manley
11:01 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
If we have someone like Mitt Romney in office likely employment would continue to leave the our country unless there are some changes in how we view manufacturing. Before Steve Jobs died, he was asked what would encourage Apple to stop using workers in China, South Korea, Europe (yes, Europe, the land of "left-wingers"), etc. to produce the millions of iPhones and other Apple products. He replied that wages were not the factor, but that those countries were better set up for meeting manufacturing requirements. Labor, environmental, and economic regulations were not a factor.
While wages, etc., may factors for other businesses, the reality is that, even under Republican administrations, manufacturing jobs continued to leave.
While the tax code gives breaks for capital gains, many investments are not in developing expensive manufacturing, but in things like stocks of existing companies that provide returns but add little to the economy in real terms. Unfortunately, the political candidates who reap rewards from such investments are disinclined to change the system. Where 1% of our population controls 42.2% of the wealth (based on 2010 data) and we have a shrinking middle class, we have become a country that encourages paper profits over investment in workers.
carla parris
9:32 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Reward good teachers and not just focus on standardized tests
carla parris
9:35 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
How does it make sense to increase tuition interest rates. 3 of us have kids going to college in the Fall
carla parris
9:39 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
American oil production is highest in 8 years Wow that incredible how many people really know that
carla parris
9:47 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Use the all the money from the war and use it here in America to rebuild America
9:28 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I heard PresBO. say the same thing. We didn't have the money we spent on the war to begin with... It was borrowed money. I think a better idea is not to spend money we never had, now that the war is winding down. Not reallocated the spending of borrowed money.
Kathy Veitch
1:01 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
A FYI.... the money for the war was BORROWED! There IS NO money to rebuild ... THAT is the problem! I liked what Obama had to say about paying down the debt. Something he has never said before... it is usually spend spend spend.
Glen McDaniel
9:47 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Carla: good civics lesson for the students.
carla parris
9:48 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Great wording - Deficit of Trust needs to be paid back to American people who bailed the banks
carla parris
9:52 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Dr Glenn Parris as a rheumatologist we are under seige by the private insurance companies / the for profit ones
9:32 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
The Daily Show had a representative on Monday night to discuss the health care reform. Part of the reform is insurance companies will have to pay 80 cents of every dollar they receive on patient services. Only 20 cents may be used for overhead and that includes CEO salaries. Hopefully the reform will stand and doctors will receive appropriate compensation instead of insurance premiums going to pay CEO salaries and dividends.
12:24 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
James, at no point did I state the Daily Show is a NEWS source. I stated someone (the secretary of health services) was on the show discussing health care reform. Jon Stewart does not claim to be a news source, he clearly states he is a comedian. Unlike Fox News (?) who claim news in their title but by their own admission air only 4 hours of programing a day that actually qualifies as news. They classify the other 20 hours as entertainment. As for a moron, my IQ is higher than 99% of the population on earth, I have three college degrees and can better discuss politics and world events on here than you could ever dream. Crawl back into your uneducated hole in the woods.
2:08 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
James at no point did I make of the claims you have attributed to me, but like the right wingnut you are you paint with broad strokes and cast unsubstantiated assertions. I will state that I have NO doubt I am more intelligent, greater, better adjusted and prettier than you. I have made no claims about how I live. I am fortunate that I was born into an upper middle class home that afforded me the oportunities to attend college. I do not resent anyone who wasn't born into my advantageous situation for trying to better theirs. If my tax dollars and donations can assist even one person on a fixed income or in public housing with improving their situation I consider it money well spent.
Kathy Veitch
1:05 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I hope people understand that the fourty bucks in our paycheck is coming out of the Sosc. Security trust fund, an entitlement that is already in critical shape. Frankly, I would rather not have the fourty or so bucks.
They love shell games in DC!
carla parris
9:58 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Warren Buffett assistant pays more in taxes??? Why does that make sense
Jeff K
8:13 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Here's a hypothetical but VERY realistic scenario why.
Rich guy has $50M in the bank and uses his ~$4M in dividends to start new business, or he donates them. He lives off of some of that $50M through the year. His "income" is 0 or even a loss and he pays no taxes.
Poor guy makes $35k/yr and pays maybe $1500 in taxes after everything is said and done.
Now think about this for a second. Which person here provided more pure financial benefit to the economy and nation? Rich guy by spending or donating $4M to charities or funding new business, or Poor guy who was taxed $1500?
Just because 1 person has more money in the bank than someone else does not mean they should be penalized for it.
Bill Thrasher
11:05 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
When you President snowed you in to believing that the Buffet rule is anything but pandering, it proves to me that he was successful in appealing to his target audience.
Warren Buffet's secretary pays EXACTLY the same tax rate as Warren Buffet on earned income. She also pays EXACTLY the same tax rate on capital gains. Notice please that the President never mentioned that.
carla parris
10:04 pm on Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Wow everyone cheered for the Abraham Lincoln quote Republicans and Democrats
8:53 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
And very few people realize that the Republican party of Abraham Lincoln's days is what the Democratic party is these days...
One Voice
12:05 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
The Democratic Party of today is nothing like the Democratic Party of the 70's and prior. Carter helped make that happen.
Jackie Goodman
1:01 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I thought Obama's State of the Union speech was brilliant! I liked everything he had to say. He was right on the money about needing to eliminate special tax benefits for those making $1 million + per year. The U.S. Treasury simply can't afford to continue to favor the very rich with big tax breaks. And how dumb is it that there are tax benefits for shipping jobs overseas?! And how dumb is it that Republicans and Democrats won't work together for the good of the American people?!
6:39 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Oh man, Obama's speech just tricked me out of the first 11 minutes of Teen Mom. THIS IS WHY OUR COUNTRY IS ON THE WRONG TRACK.
Joe Bozeman
6:48 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I went to bed at 8:30, and tried to dream of the day this man is out of office. If we have four more years of him, our Republic will be totally destroyed. I will say this, in my opinion , he has not been the worst President in our history. James Earl Carter holds that title. But, if Obama gets 4 more years, he will pass Carter hands down.
9:40 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
The four million jobs lost under George W. Bush? Cost of Iraq war (which Bush lied to start) $800 billion, over 33,000 Americans killed in the Iraq war and you think Carter and Obama were worse. Shall we add the $700 billion Bush threw at the banking industry with no regulations as to how the money could be spent. Monetary costs for just the war and the bailout under Bush are 1.5 trillion dollars, that is trillion with a "T". If you want to throw out the "bad president" comment back it up with fact.
Kathy Veitch
1:08 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I must correct you on one point, Mr. Bozeman...... ANY dream with Comrade Obama in it is NOT a dream.... it is a NIGHTMARE!!LOL! Am right there with you.
11:36 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Marcy where in the h e l l did you get the idea 33,000 Americans have died in the Iraq war. Truth is less then 6,000 have died. One is to many but I served during most of that war and had many friends that went back time and time again not because they where forced to but because they wanted to. Better go back and read your facts you are so far off base with almost all of them. Bush is no longer in charge and this current President has done more harm then good. You can see how our public education system is failing us due to all the misinformation put out on places like the patch.
One Voice
12:08 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Joe, my opinion is that he already has Carter beat. Carter turned my family into Republicans.
12:30 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Hellboy I got it from a website that tracks deaths and injuries of American soldiers. Their columns were a little confusing between deaths and injuries so I may have put the deaths and injuries combined total. But it remains that more Americans died in a war created by Bush based on lies and myths than died in the terrorist attacks on the US. This is unacceptable to me. Neither you nor any of your fellow soldiers should be sent to a war that was created for corporate profit (Hallibuton, Dick Cheney was CEO).
2:38 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
I am putting my foot in my mouth before I say something here that I will not regret!
All I will say is, If you did not serve and go to Iraq, you have no clue as to what WAS found.
Gladys Turner Lee
6:51 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
President Obama 's speech gives us hope! The Congress knows what should and needs to be done in order to turn the economy around. The message is clear; Republicans, stop obstructing and help move this country forward. JOBS, JOBS, JOBS are needed now!
7:57 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I'm afraid you are misinformed, Gladys. As of December 5, 2011 Congress has passed 25 jobs-related bills. They are stuck and going nowhere in the Senate, which as you know, is lead by Democrat Harry Reid. In his speech he called on Congress to pass the payroll tax cut "without delay." He didn't mention that House Republicans approved exactly that last year, only to be forced to go along with the Democratic Senate that extended the tax cut for two months. Both parties now agree on a full year's cut. You see, President Obama has been in office 3 years and has absolutely NOTHING to run on. His only hope is to paint the Repulicans as a do-nothing congress. Don't you find it strange that this speech said nothing of his signature achievement, the American Recovery and Investment Act, AKA the stimulus bill? Or that he only dedicated 44 words to big health care achievement? He didn't mention it because the majority of Americans hate these big spending bills and want less, not more goverment. This speech nothing but platitudes, and I truly hope this was the last SOTU we will have to endure from Obama.
Kathy Veitch
1:12 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Thank GOD for the Repubs! And I CAN"T STAND the Rep. party! Jobs that are created by GOVERNMENT are a drain on the economy, not a positive thing.
If this marxist president gets elected again, there is NO hope for the country. America can not survive the devestation of four more years with Obama.
One Voice
2:50 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Wait a minute Gladys. I thought Obama was a Democrat. Didn't he just vote down the Keystone pipeline that would have created your JOBS JOBS JOBS.. When did he switch parties?????
Bill Lyons
7:16 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
More of the "hope and change" style of the past that recently, but so many misrepresentations and factual errors. Even the AP did a pretty good job of rebutting some of his misstatements. Perhaps some of the "main stream" is flowing in the right direction again. Daniels gave an excellent response. Meanwhile, why is Pelosi attacking Gingrich with such threats? Is she more afraid of Gingrich than Romney?
7:37 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Worst President, i have seen in my life, Not even as good as Jimmy Carter, Don't you Carter is Glad about that, Talk about the Rich, Upper Class, Middle Class,They spend money, on Houses, Cars, Cloths, A lot of other Items, What if the Businesses, that have Money, They Spend Money on up grades, new equipment, new Vehicles, new employee's. I have not seen any Welfare People or Dead Beats ( not talking about people looking for a job) on Unemployment, help this economy, Any.
9:43 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Yeah, a multi-millionaire buying another vacation home really makes a difference in the economy. Meanwhile the 10,000 employees laid off from his corporation so he could receive the big bonus to buy the one house just had 10,000 houses go into foreclosure. Great economic policy you've got there Ben.
Mike Korom
10:04 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Urbanist (says it all), nice command of the English language. Patch, this is against your policies. Please remove his/her post so he/she can call it censorship.
10:30 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Did you read Ben's post? And you're criticizing my use of the English language?
Roger N
2:24 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Just thought you may need some extra commas since you used most of them in your last post.
David Van Dyke
7:39 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
In my opinion Obama should have a been a talk show host, hes a great speaker. Give him another 4 years and he will reach his goal of destroying capitalism. As a business owner, why should I work 60 -90 hours a week, have sleepless nights, employee a lot of people, only to have my success stolen from me and giving to someone who will not work! if you are successful you should not be penalized for you achievements. Obama doesn't believe what he said, he will not act on his speech, it was just a motivational speech at a seminar, meant to leave people excited about the new day. We all know l, you must be a proven leader be people will follow. He has yet to prove anything, except he is a great talker.
8:57 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Care to elaborate on how your success is "being stolen from you and given to someone who will not work"? I'm successful, and don't feel penalized at all. As a matter of fact, I'm in favor of being penalized more (as a whole) via a higher tax rate. The situation we're in is miserable - economically speaking - and the largest contribution to that in the past 20 years has been 2 wars, and a recession led by Republican mass-deregulation and senseless monetary policy that enabled a real estate bubble like no other. We have to pay our bills, and find capital to rebuild the education and infrastructure of this country, and you're not going to get that by cutting spending alone.
9:45 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I work 60 hours a week and make less than I did five years ago. Meanwhile the adminstrators above me have received payraises and extra paid vacation time. Why should I continue to work these hours for no recognition when according to you I can sit at home and let you pay my bills?
7:43 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Thanks Carla for further indoctrinating ten more kids to be statist and believe that government is good. Repeat after me kids - government good, capitalist BAD
9:02 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Dumbass...if it weren't for the government, the system that you know as capitalism would have collapsed on itself 4 years ago, and you'd be living in a ditch. Capitalism is good, so long as both ends of the bell curves are safeguarded against...
Judy Rayford
10:19 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
from someon that believes in making history fit the oppressor the rich the top the ones that win by any means available
M. Stone
8:17 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
There was nothing new he had to offer, so why watch.
Don Yates
8:24 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
While president Obama is not perfect there is no R running that I could ever support.
8:39 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Mr. Yates,
Yes, not a lot to choose from, however, four more years of BHO will finish us off as a free market Republic. We have to remove the cancer in the WH. He could care less about our Constitution. Just an annoyance to him.
Heather Banta
8:47 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
It's insane to me that this rhetoric continues, perpetuating this nonsense that Obama is anti-Capitalist, anti-small business, Socialist, and any number of other ridiculous accusations. He has done nothing to validate these claims, everything he discussed tonight was in the best interest of the middle class. Remember us? The people that go to work every day, try to make a living and support families while people tell us that any day now there will be no Social Security, no Medicare, and we might never be able to retire. Stop watching Fox News if you don't want to hear lies. And note that ever Republican candidate is lying through their teeth with almost every criticism they have made. Anyone seen the most recent Newsweek. The featured article is titled "Why Are Obama's Critics So Dumb?" Check it out, it's an amazing read, well thought out, backed up by facts, and written by an Independent. He has a lot of good points.
The Dish
10:03 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Watch out Heather.....your bias is showing.....referencing Newsweek as a relevant news source that is 'backed up by facts and written by an Independent' and representing Fox News as the liar. (am I on the Patch or HuffPo???)
You did get one thing right though. Obama 'discussed' having the 'best interest of the middle class'. That's all he has ever done - speak......from words typed out by someone else and displayed on a teleprompter. Sure he's a good speaker when he's already got the message (from whoever is behind the scenes pulling the puppet strings) in front of him on a screen. But when it comes to acting on his promises/speeches that's a different story. Even when the democrats had full control he couldn't get his promises fulfilled - except Obamacare (funny it seems he's forgotten about that.....or is trying to since the majority of America is against it). Can't wait until he gets voted out in November.
Heather Banta
11:03 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I am biased...biased towards people who care about other people and about having a decent society. Also, if you want to speak the truth and not just spew out nonsense propaganda, check out the Politifact study where they analyzed 500 of his promises. 400 or so of them have been fulfilled, are in progress, or he has compromised. Some have been broken, but more than that have stalled in Congress. If you want to talk about promises not be being kept, you can't target this President. And how can you criticize Obama for being led by puppet strings, when our last President could barely form a coherent sentence without someone feeding it to him. And speaking of biased, you are clearly regurgitating Fox News facts with your claims about health care reform. If you look at an impartial group, like the Kaiser Family Foundation, you will see that most people do support the reform. Those that don't like it are either too selfish to care about those less fortunate or grossly uninformed. Which one are you, I wonder?
David Manley
11:15 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Re: The Dish comment about Obamacare. I have not decided about this legislation, it is very complex; however, (1) many polls show the public favors it, (2) the Congressional Budget Office (which is nonpartisan) concluded that it would save hundreds of millions of dollars, and (3) it utilizes private sector, for profit, insurance companies.
Brian Crawford
2:18 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Dish, your comments here are a wonderful recitation of Frank Luntz's greatest hits but in reality the President has a historic list of accomplishments that didn't somehow magically manifest out of his magic teleprompter. While certainly a gifted speaker, this President's actions have spoken much louder than his words.
David Brown
8:51 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
As I listened to President Obama's address last night, I was thankful to God again for letting me live long enough to see a person of my race give a State of the Union address.
10:19 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Two posts by you in the last week David, both based on race. No logic. No facts. No sense. Just that big racial chip on your shoulder doing the talking. Did you also thank God for the 17% unemployment rate among those who are the same race as you and the President? Or did you instead thank him for giving you GW Bush to blame all of your and Obama's shortcomings on? (Black unemployment under Bush was half what it is under Obama by the way).
11:29 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
David realy it is all about race and the color of the mans skin. I think MLK would have turned bright red if he read your commit. We need a leader in the job not because of color but because of true leadership that will keep America stronge . I have supported many people of color running for public office when we shared the same ideas of what's best for this country. It is sad that 90% of the black population back a man due to his color and not his leadership. Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad Sad
Brian Crawford
8:55 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I appreciate our President's positive outlook look for America, his faith in the American worker, his sense of fairness, his support of entrepreneurial capitalism, his leadership in foreign policy and national security issues, his efforts at bi-partisanship and his willingness to move forward in the face of unprecedented obstructionism.
I thought the speech gave a great assessment of the crossroads we face. There is a lot of positive momentum building in the economy. It is up to Congress to seize the day, put aside partisan differences and follow the President's lead. In short, get on board or get out the way. I gave his address an A.
9:48 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
YES!!! Put aside the partisan differences and work together for the people of this country. I'm not a Republican nor a Democrat so I'm really sick to death of the partisanship. Grown men and women acting like toddlers throwing tantrums to get their way. At this point I don't care what is better for a corporation, I care about what is best for the AMERICAN PEOPLE.
The Dish
10:08 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Really Brian? I was certain that you would have given Obama an A+. Just an 'A'?
Brian Crawford
2:05 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I've got his back Dish, I'm well aware of both his and successes and failures. I didn't think this was a particularly historic speech but certainly one that put forth a few fresh policy ideas while trying to unite the nation behind our better angels. He made it clear he wants Republican participation but will move forward without it if need be for the good of the country.
From a purely political perspective it was a brilliant exposition of three and a half years of historic accomplishments vs. Republican intransigence and their inability to put forth anything other than the same stale policies they brought us to our knees. He has almost single handedly restored the American brand.
11:24 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Brian are we speaking of the same Obama that is taking our country down the road to be a 3rd world Nation? Yes he speaks well but that does not flow over to how he leads or should I say the lack of leadership. Obama dazzles people with words and many fall for everyone of them. Nothing positive about this President nothing at all.
9:03 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
After all of Obama's promises, these last several years have been exasperating and disappointing to say the least. The way he appeases the republicans when it comes to passing a bill one would think he switched parties. However there's not ONE R on the ticket with enough knowledge or good ethics or morals (Romney/Gingrich ring any bells? ) worth voting for to run this country. Sometimes one is better off in the pan than jumping into the fire. Clinton will come off as the best president of the past decades; not because he lacked morals, although morals obviously don't matter any more, but because he had this country running in the BLACK not owing trillions and we all were doing well until the war mongers took over (Bushes, Cheney, Haliburton, etc) Without all these wars, we wouldn't be in the crisis we're in now. G.Scott
Joe Bozeman
11:28 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
You are correct. Bill Clinton will go down in history as a great President with the non educated and the non thinking. Seems like you have forgotten the first two years of his administration. What a mess! It was not until the Republicans took over the house and senate with the contract with America that he saw the light. Had he not stolen the Contract With America, he would have been a one term president. When he saw the voters did not want his policies he turned to the Right so fast it was funny. You people who think the Democrats care for the middle class better wake up. They want every citizen dependent on the government so they will follow the Democrat leaders like a herd of sheep.
Tammy Osier
9:31 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
He's a smoothe talker, I'll give him that. He talks about getting along with congress, but if you ask a congressman (any of them) they will tell you that it isn't them that can't get along with him, but the other way around. And taking credits for Ford's success? Think critically here...it's the one that DIDN'T get bailed out. It sounds good, but if you don't go and do what you say, then it's hard to get a handle on it. Time will tell, I suppose.
Clinton was smart- the republicans put forth a good policy to balance the budget and he agreed with them. He got credit, and he knew he would. Smart of him really. Obama needs to take a cue out of clinton's book and stop nixing good ideas (pipeline that would create tons of jobs0 for instance.
11:50 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
It should be noted that Ford advocated for and supported the bailout because if GM and Chrysler went under, Ford would have lost many of its suppliers. Losing suppliers, they argued, would resulting in higher prices for parts. So, they were legitimately concerned that expected higher prices would ultimately take them down too.
People should also know that Ford didn't file bankruptcy or get bailed out in the way that GM and Chrysler did. However, Ford did receive $5.9 billion in low-cost government loans in 2009 to overhaul its factories and bring out more fuel-efficient technology.
The fact is, with the aid of the bailouts for GM and Chrysler and that taxpayer loan, Ford managed to tiptoe past the graveyard too: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/
11:14 am on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
The question itself reveals how the real intent of the State of the Union speech can be hijacked.
12:12 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
So sad that the teleprompter slick cult leader still has so many brainwashed minions to do his bidding.
12:28 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
How a man that has never held a private sector job, was a junior Senator from a corrupt state and started his political career at Bill Ayers home and was in a church that the racist Jeremiah Wright was his pastor, how he gets elected shows that our public (government) schools are not working.
2:16 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
It's in the KOOLAID he feeds them, that an our poorly run Govt schools that breed these type of people.
12:41 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I would rate Obama's campaign - er, I mean - State of the Union speech a nice solid F. Just like the last 3 years of his campaigning - er, I mean - leading of the country.
2:13 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I just wish we had the option of giving him a "Zero" F is realy to good a grade for him.
Sarah Cool
12:46 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
There is no R running that I could ever support. Amen.
2:12 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Maybe no R but you have a good "F" running the office now. F for failure. What has this President done for anybody ? Obamacare is joke and needs a lot of work.
String Bean
1:14 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Mark my words - if Obama is reelected there will be a civil war in this nation.
3:46 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
This is a ridiculous statement. What are we going to fight about? Budget deficit reduction strategies? Do you disagree so strongly with this administration's policies that you are willing to kill? Those who oppose this presidency will have an opportunity to peacefully remove President Obama from office in November. Get a grip!
Judy Rayford
9:10 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
ya tried civil war before remember or did you take that out of the text books and put in your fairy tales of hope and power
10:12 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
That is an ignorant statement, but I do agree that this president is piting color against color
Glen McDaniel
2:05 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
@ Heather: Nice posts. We can all have differences of opinions but how can you really take seriously people who say Obama is socialist or is destroting our values or is not American by birth? People show their disdain for the President, not by debating facts, but by parrotting inane talking points and regurgitating wild, crazy accusations.
They make silly references to the use of a teleprompter as if that somehow indicates inability of some sort. The telepromter has been routinely used by presidents going back to Republican Herbert Hoover in 1952. In fact it has been used by every US prez since then. Even Romney (who has mocked Obama) used a teleprompter in his televised speech after the NH primary. Enough already!
Then when you point out facts or polls, the detractors respond by saying whatever source you quote is in cahoots with the President.
2:23 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Listen to his words Glen , hear his Marxist leaning in everything he says. I do not care if he is American or not as long as he takes care of the American people . Something he is not doing but he does put on a good show.
Heather Banta
3:27 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
You are right Glen. This will be my last post, it's like trying to talk to a kindergarten class about politics. I could have a more logical discussion with my 4 year old nephew than with the ridiculous people on here. This whole thing has actually made me a little concerned about living in this neighborhood, I guess I was expecting a more enlightened and educated crowd in East Atlanta.
Gwinnett Democrats
6:36 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
You are correct Glen. I'm tired of these people repeating inane arguments... The Republicans have NO arguments at all.
2:09 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Seriously many people gave him an A. For what? Sad day for America when that many people think this Pro-Marxist anti Freedom loving President deserves an A. Let me guess all of them went to Govt. run schools. Looking forward to the change on Nov 2012. Anybody but who we have now as the President.
Judy Rayford
9:13 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
your comments lead me to believe that you were an honor student in a private school and come from a freeborn family line? Just like Sarah, Bush, and Perry
10:14 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
someone sounds jealous. Jealousy of the people that work hard and become successful. Worry about yourself and what you can do to make your life better.
carla parris
2:34 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
From: Carla Parris an Dr Glenn Parris,
How is that so many folks on Medicare in Lilburn and Gwinnett can be so anti government, makes no sense. Medicare/Healthcare is subsizdized now by government and as far as private insurance they only care about the bottom line and the stockholders. When it comes to your healthcare , who will win?? you or the the stockholders?????
carla parris
2:38 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Where are theDemocrats of Lilburn???? We need to really discuss issues and the facts about what has been accomplished these past 3 years on education,healthcare,credit disclosure etc etc. Facts will always win out over rhetoric
Carla Parris
Judy Rayford
9:15 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
There is a House Meeting on Feb 4, 2012 for President Obama
there were lots of watch parties for the State of the Union
I now an excellent turn out at the MLK
11:19 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
No accomplishments in education, health care, credit disclosure, etc etc etc. Those are the facts and disprove any rhetoric the Democrat Oppressors have tried to put out to the American people.
James Bell
3:11 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
The purpose of the SOTU address is not to persuade undecided voters. It's to give a realistic assessment of the condition of our nation. Congress seems to be sitting on their hands with many of the applause lines. The Prez tried to soften the accusations that he is a socialist and a big government Dem. by offering up some agency cuts. It was an OK speech through rose colored glasses.
Heather Banta
3:25 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Good lord, y'all love to throw the words Socialist and Marxist around, don't you? One of these days you should look up the definition of those words, it's going to make you realize how stupid you sound.
Glen McDaniel
3:36 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
@Heather: "Marxist bad, Socialist bad; I hate Obama therefore he is Marxist." You see every bad term applies to someone I hate. That is how that specious argument goes. No undestanding of what Marxism is, no appreciation for the fact that no one person, president or not, could "turn the government or society Marxist." If this is the level of political discourse, we are in deep trouble.
Greg Lindquist
3:41 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
As a Speech Communications Major, I evaluated the speech as a campaign speech given on about the 8th grade attention level. Obama appeared to be talking down to the less educated. He used demogogary freely and tried to sell class welfare.
What a mess!
11:09 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
I see Glen is one of those that Greg was speaking of. Glen must have went to one of our high achieving public schools.....LOL.
Julie Camp
3:49 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Heather, Obama was raised by communists and his mentors were marxists. He admits that freely. His actions speak louder than words. Perhaps you should look up the definitions of those words. Socialism = health care bill, over regulation by the EPA and other agencies, new government entitlements and so on.
Julie Camp
3:51 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I see very few of Obama's followers read his books. TISK TISK
Joe Bozeman
4:15 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
I don't think most Obama followers read anything. It seems to me they follow this Pied Piper in any direction he wants them to go. The man ain't dumb, in my opinion, his goal is to destroy the United States by class warfare and he is doing a darn good job at it.
North Georgia Weather
6:01 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
These are the books. Everyone of voting age should read these two books by him. You don't have to buy them, just get them from the library.
From Dreams From My Father
From Audacity of Hope
11:15 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
I think they can read their food stamp cards......not a raciest comment because more whites are on food stamps then blacks.
Julie Camp
4:24 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
And they don't see the class warfare as a Marxist tool. It's scary.
5:44 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
If extremely wealthy people like Bill Gates and Warren Buffett want to see taxes go up for the rich, is that an example Americans waging class warfare against themselves?
In my case, I'd love to see my own taxes rise to the level they were at under Clinton after the 1993 Democratic budget was passed. Am I engaging in class warfare against myself?
Brian Crawford
4:34 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Julie, you think Obama's a Marxist just because he grew the size of government creating a whole new cabinet level agency and adding tens of thousands of new workers to the government payroll? Just because he tripled the size of our national debt and bailed out Social Security with a massive tax increase. Just because he raised corporate taxes by hundreds of billions of dollars and increased the tax on gasoline? Just because he supported federal handgun controls and granted amnesty to thousands of illegal aliens? No wait...that was Ronald Reagan. Nevermind.
Julie Camp
5:30 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Really? Non defense spending leveled off during his presidency. He did raise the tax on SS and cut some benefits. The program was not set up well and he had to do something. He also cut personal federal income tax rates, capital gains tax rates, and others, which led to an INCREASE in Tax Revenues.
Brian Crawford
10:10 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
The cold hard facts are that 85% of the over $11 trillion in national debt run up between the end of the Ford administration and the beginning of Obama's first budgetary cycle was run up under Republican Presidents who all held the veto pen within their grasp. So much for small government Republicanism. The nearly $3.5 trillion incurred under Obama is due almost entirely to the need for stimulus spending and reduced tax revenues that were consequences of the massive unemployment he inherited from 30 years of disastrous Republican economic policy. There has been no socialist expansion of government under this President.
11:13 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Brian has this so called $3.5 trillion stimulus created more jobs? By the way that debt under Obama was done in less the 3 years and he wants another $1.5 trillion for this year bring his total to $5 trillion during his first and hopefully only term. Take the blinders off and see the damage this man is doing to our nation.
Jimmy Orr
6:29 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Julie, you hang in there. I understand where you are coming from. In Obama's early years he hung around with known radicals with Marxist leanings. Like Grandaddy use to say, if you hang around with dogs you are going to get fleas on you. This business of improving the so called disparity between the "haves" and the "have nots" not only goes against my grain but goes against that of the American Dream. The American Dream has always been that if you are working for a company and down in the ditch shoveling dirt, you have the opportunity to get out of the ditch and work toward owning the company. There will always be "haves," "have nots," and those in between. Our market driven system of free enterprise is predicated on rewarding those who have the ambition and the desire to better themselves and improve their lot in life. Obama does not understand this as his experience in the market place is nil.
Julie Camp
7:18 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Chris, when Warren Buffet and his companies pay taxes, I'll believe him. But, until then, he and others like him look for the loopholes and file for extension after extension.
Of course, if Buffet is getting his money from investments, 15 percent is fine. He already (in theory) paid taxes on that money.
Julie Camp
7:19 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
We do have a department set up to take voluntary taxes from folks willing to pay extra. It probably takes more money to run the department than they take in.
Thanks for your support Mr. Orr.
12:07 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
RE: "...when Warren Buffet and his companies pay taxes, I'll believe him."
Warren Buffett and his companies don't pay taxes? That's news to me. However, if true, that would seem to support his position that he needs to be taxed more.
Warren Buffett published an editorial asking the government to raise his taxes: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/15/opinion/stop-coddling-the-super-rich.html
You think that he's lying and that he doesn't really want the government to raise his taxes? I guess anything is possible, but for the life of me, I don't know why somebody would say that they want their own tax rates to be increased when they really don't.
12:10 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
RE: "...We do have a department set up to take voluntary taxes..."
For the record, the phrase "voluntary taxes" is an oxymoron. By definition, taxes are compulsory.
8:54 pm on Wednesday, January 25, 2012
Thank you Julie.
So, Chris nothing is stopping you from paying more to the imperial federal government.
Go ahead and cut them a check. Just don't expect the rest of us to do the same. They get A LOT of money from me every year. Government at every level has enough revenues. They need to wean themselves form the taxpayer nipple.
11:56 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Thank you for this comment RL. Unfortunately, it didn't respond to my questions.
Julie Camp and others accuse people who support certain changes in our tax code of "class warfare". My question again is, how does one declare war on one's self? How does one envy one's own wealth?
If you agree that the answer to both questions is "you can't," then please say so and we can move on to a discussion about voluntary contributions vs. taxes (which, by definition, are compulsory).
Either way, check out this website about a group of millionaires who, some are asserting, are suffering from wealth envy of themselves and enacting class warfare on themselves: http://patrioticmillionaires.org/
Julie Camp
8:54 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Chris, some of these large corporations that support Obama area several years behind in taxes. I'm under the weather or I would look up the information. If I remember correctly, one of Buffets hasn't paid in like 4 or 5 years.
Someone look that up???
11:22 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
I'd be glad to "look that up" if it was relevant...but it's not.
Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and others seeking higher taxes on themselves cannot be suffering from "wealth envy" or engaging in "class warfare" against themselves, no matter what their current tax rates are.
lee kellogg
1:40 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Y'all Confederates got it whupped onct befo. Call the Pres what you all's want. then go find some other place to live where thangs are all better an them all minorities is in they place. Then them socialists kin balance they budget agin, kit rid of Bin Ladeinsts, make that there stock market go upupup, an eat they chidren of secessionists. It's your language, it's your logic. 'Course the dear departed Ronnie would call you crazy extremists.
john penn
8:53 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
The Main problem is greed exhibited by ALL(including those of us posting on this topic). My simple definition of greed is having enough to live, but being in a constant state of want. That is the American way.....from main street to Wall street.
The next biggest problem are politicians. Why? They are just like us, but on steroids The biggest group, percentage wise, living off of entitlements is the US Congress. Do you hear any of them pushing for legislation that requires them to live under the same laws as the public? Don't answer. They learn these "dirty tricks" at the local and state level first and see first hand how they can take tax money and use it to enrich themselves and their friends while crying "broke"....Dems and Repubs both. They are legal backstabbers; their main job is getting re-elected.
I'm done for now, because I'm pissed.
Judy Rayford
9:20 am on Thursday, January 26, 2012
All smiles John reading your comment. We have an opportunity to force "mob" rule on the established system if we just sign petitions and force changes for example
Marijuana people need this natural relief why must they be forced to support the drug corporations sign my petition to classify marijuana as a herb
Heather Banta
12:52 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
People - get your facts straight. OBAMA did not create the recession, the housing slump, the unemployment crisis, etc. Blaming that on him is pure stupidity, plain and simple. Bush should take a huge amount of the blame for what Obama has inherited and is trying to fix. More jobs? Yes, we are still in the negative but it is better. Positive signs in the economy? Yes, I just heard on the radio this morning that there has been an upturn in the demand for real estate. Place the blame in the right place. No one wants more people dependent on the government. What rational people want is a set of social safety nets for when things beyond your control happen. You people that decry the these things would probably use them if needed (disability, unemployment, social security, medicare). The reality is that without these programs, what kind of country would we live in? Do you want more homeless people in the streets? More people begging for money? This is not socialism or marxism, it is what a responsible group of citizens due to take care of each other. Somehow we are the last developed nation to figure this out, because of people like you! And you think we have a democracy? Barely! The richest of the rich run the country. We have an oligarchy. Wake up people.
One Voice
1:55 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Straight facts--Unemployment continues to rise although unreported. Creeping towards 20%. Jobs are available, however there not pencil pushing jobs. There working jobs that require manual Labor. I know, I work in an industry where after just a few days people walk off the job because its too hard on them. Why should my tax dollars go towards paying them to sit on there A#@ at home. Obama has had 3 years to do something but he hasn't, other than throw bad money at bad investments. Just like recently, voting against the pipeline from Canada which would help eliminate some of the need for foreign oil and create jobs. I'm not saying that the US should stop looking for ways to be less dependant on oil but you can't get that way overnight. High gas prices keep people from being able to look for jobs on a regular basis. Homeless people? Most choose to be that way. I've seen homeless people offered jobs and they walk away from it. They would rather stay a drunk and a bum. You need to wake up. The people of the United States are getting Lazy!!!!
Bill Lyons
6:42 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Din not create =BUT SURE HAS MADE IT WORSE, IN RECORD PROPORTIONS.
Heather, where are your facts?
11:11 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
RE: "Just like recently, voting against the pipeline from Canada which would help eliminate some of the need for foreign oil..."
Just a friendly reminder that Canada is a foreign county. Therefore, oil coming from Canada is FOREIGN oil.
One Voice
7:29 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
@Chris...It's (the oil) on the North American Continent..Get Real
10:19 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
I apologize for the misunderstanding, One Voice. When you used the phrase "foreign oil" in your original comment, I was under the impression that you were referring to "foreign oil." My mistake.
Tom Doolittle
1:16 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
Judy Rayford--absolutely go with natural medicines.
This should go on the Newt thread:
Newt proposed medicl marijuana legislation in 1988. A man ahead of his time--and I believe he would get the FDA/ATF/FBI/DEA/HUD to back off and not igbore a Presidential Order.
Ummm..that's five federal agencies in paramilitary gear folks, all storming a 5,000 sq ft dispensaries--
Do you suppose a Republican Presidential candidate might have a problem with that? Nah
LEGAL in 16 states--mostly with Repblican legislatures.
Judy Rayford
6:44 pm on Thursday, January 26, 2012
one voice the people of the united states have been under mind control long before the TV came out. The garbage that come out you mind is either a reflection of your self or displacement to avoid reality
Joe Bozeman
5:20 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
There is one thing for sure. The people of the United States will neve be unified as long as this man is in office.
Judy Rayford
8:04 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
The man in the office of your mind will never be unified as long as you cannot live a distorted life as a supreme being with out an education. when I bet your family were not freeborn when they arrived to cheat, kill and deamonize other humans
Joe Bozeman
8:31 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
What in heck are you trying to tell me? I don't understand one thing in your comment. But, I don't think it was meant as a compliment. Please explain. Thank you.
Judy Rayford
10:58 am on Friday, January 27, 2012
Joe, I mean that the man in office is the answer and the man in your mind is the problem. Get real allow one plus one to equal two without it damaging your self esteem
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
12:20 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
As one, who by choice stays far off the beaten path whenever possible, to Judy and Joe: You two, out of the weeds and GET off MY Lawn!
Joe Bozeman
2:14 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
R and Judy,
I still have no idea what either one of you are trying to say.
Judy Rayford
3:18 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
There is one thing for sure. The people of the United States will neve be unified as long as this man is in office. stated Joe Bozeman. My reply "this man in office" is the answer. The problem with the United States is the lack of economic and educational freedom that leave people unprepared to have ideas.
Joe Bozeman
5:01 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
You remind me of a folk song when I was in college. Peter, Paul. and Mary droned on singing " The Answer, My Friend, Is Blowing In The Wind". Well Obama blows a lot, but says very little of substance. Also, I would love to know what you were talking about when you implied my family " killed, cheated, and demonized people".
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
6:04 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
Joe, earlier I was joshing with you as your "debate partner" seemed to really go off on a tangent. Stand fast and carry on, for in this battle, you are a better man than I.
For if the man in office is the answer, the question can only come out Chicago. Talk about Jeopardy! " I have this thing, its F'in golden…"
David Manley
6:26 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
As an aside: The top donor to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, investment banking and securities firm Goldman Sachs, received over $10 billion in emergency lending and bailouts from the Federal Reserve after the 2008 financial meltdown, according to public sources and published reports. In 1999 Romney purchased initial IPO shares in Goldman that netted him $1.1 million in profits when he sold them in 2010.
David Manley
7:27 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
More tidbits for thought:
Six of the nine top contributors to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign received over $161 billion in taxpayer bailouts, reports ProPublica, the independent, Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative organization.
The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has projected that the healthcare law ("Obamacare") would reduce deficits by $210 billion in the first decade from fiscal year 2012 through 2021, given taxes, fees and health cost reductions mandated by the law. Similarly, the office reported that legislation passed last year by the House Republican majority to repeal the law would increase deficits and increase them by roughly the same amount. The Budget Office further concluded that the savings after 2021 would be in the range of half a percentage point of the nation's total gross domestic product, a substantial amount.
At this juncture, I do not have a preference for any of the candidates, or a final decision on healthcare, but these factoids may be interesting to those discussing the pros and cons.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
10:09 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
Well just for fun lets see the run out for our President's re-election finances. Talking about money at this level is fast approaching ludicrous since BOTH sides are somewhat less than clean. This by no means gives a pass to either side mind you, but one could start with Goldman Sachs?
Personally I was taken aback by Romey's offshore banking in the Caymans, but then I realized my bank off-shored its operation to India some time ago, so we all have off-shore banks now don't we? Its just some have FAR better service than others.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
10:56 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
So we need to raise taxes eh? How about passing the can first folks... How many families could be fed by correcting this foolishness - no congressional interference either, this can be fixed by executive order.
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama has preached that all Americans should pay their fair share in taxes, but a government report finds that tens of thousands of federal employees -- from staffers in Congress to federal agencies and even Obama's executive office -- collectively owe the government billions in back taxes.
#Data from the Internal Revenue Service found that more than 279,000 federal employees and retirees owed $3.4 billion in back income taxes as of Sept. 30, 2010.
#The data showed that 467 employees of the House of Representatives, or about 4.2 percent of the workforce, owed more than $8.5 million. In the Senate, 217 employees, or about 3 percent of the workforce, owed $2.13 million.
#Obama's staff was not immune, either, with 36 people in Obama's executive office of nearly 1,800 workers -- about 2 percent -- owing the government $833,970 in back taxes.
Tom Doolittle
11:31 pm on Friday, January 27, 2012
With the exception of mainstream media and the two supposed "opposing" major political parties, the Citizens United case that observes corporations as "persons", thus able to give unlimited $amounts to candidates---is one of the top issues of the day--and SHOULD be a top election issue. It's not because obviously neither major party wants to buck it.
They don't because these political parties really don't oppose each other on the issues that bear on the essence of our republic. That means third parties, which enjoy no significant support (yet) are left to defend personal rights.
Other issues that are constittionally fundamental include: (1) the use of inflation to continue our so-called "way of life" and "living standard" (bankrupt soon); (2) protecting civil liberties; (3) states rights (even states have not protected them); (4) open government; (5) legaility of the income tax; and a few more.
Somehow, if a candidate brings these up, they are marginalized by those that control the nation--the media and the two major political parties that...well..suposedly "oppose" each other.
Tom Doolittle
1:22 am on Saturday, January 28, 2012
Free Speech for People, a nationwide nonpartisan effort to overturn Citizens United and corporate rights doctrines that unduly leverage corporate economic power into political power.
Bill Thrasher
1:05 pm on Saturday, January 28, 2012
Forbes: The Obama administration has increased the federal job payroll by 140,000 since he took office, and that specifically excludes the military.
In every case where the capital gains tax rates go up, revenue to the US treasury goes down. In every case where the capital gains tax rates go down, there is an increase in revenue to the US treasury.
On 60 Minutes over a year ago, Obama admitted knowing this but said "It's a matter of fairness"
God Help Us All, because the Obama administration is clueless as to how to do it.
john penn
5:08 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
Remember your opinion does not count only your vote. Politicians are only concerned about getting re-elected. Lobbyists own these guys lock, stock, and barrel. It is good to have a blog where people can vent, but don't get too worked up and prepare to try and solve your own issues....like always.
9:01 am on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
I won't say you are wrong, but I will say you are not correct. While lobbyists can promote and help carry all manner of Bills into law, the simple fact remains that they usually do not vote in a reps District.
I speak from the perspective of a vol advocate for a national illness support group.
Fact is, several hundred voters calling, emailing, and writing to their rep, on pending legislation DOES work. I can point toward many cases.
To assume otherwise means the great American experiment is failed. It has not.
It actually takes work, getting off one's duff, away from American Idol, and the excuse of, "I'm too busy," to become involved and to make changes happen.
John Wagner
2:45 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
No mention of Bowles-Simpson which was very disappointing. It is the only actual plan and sensible compromise I have seen that gets us beyond all of this unproductive arguing.
3:06 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
It wouldn't work. Simpson-Bowles recommendations couldn't get a majority vote from their own bipartisan commission, in part, because every single Republicans on the commission refused to support it (among some Dems). They didn't like the tax hikes and the defense cuts that the report recommended, and frankly, I don't think Obama did either. Nor did he like the recommended Medicare or Social Security benefit cuts.
If this report is popular, I suspect it's because most who support it don't know what's in it.
9:36 am on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
IMHO, if a few of the Simpson-Bowles Report recommendations been implemented, we would have avoided a downgrade. The Report is a roadmap of what ought to be done, which by it's very nature is going to be unpopular.
Ignoring the Report is the clearest signal that policymakers are unwilling to tackle this Nation's greatest issues.
John Wagner
3:21 pm on Tuesday, January 31, 2012
A correction, it actually got a "bipartisan majority" from the commission but not the "super majority" needed to force a required Senate vote. There were 11 of 18 votes in favor, with a supermajority of 14 votes needed to formally endorse the blueprint.[3] Voting for the report were Bowles, Coburn, Conrad, Crapo, Cote, Durbin, Fudge, Gregg, Rivlin, Simpson, and Spratt. Voting against were Baucus, Becerra, Camp, Hensarling, Ryan, Schakowsky and Stern. Many Republicans and Democrats did/do support it as it addresses revenues and entitlement reform. The problem is it's not even being debated as a template to move forward.
Chad Smith
12:02 pm on Wednesday, February 1, 2012
I think the US govt should pick 4-6 metro areas and tear them down. Make those people move elsewhere. Think of the contracts awarded to take away all the buildings. Lots of money pumping through the economy. Important and historical buildings could be loaded up on a flatbed and moved to a different city. The Seattle spaceneedle would look way better in Phoenix - and better weather!
Jon Adams
7:19 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
This president should be taken out of offce. He is a waste. Has no idea what he is doing and is taking this great country down but then is not an American


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In an unprecedented series of events worldwide, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) and the Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz joined together to celebrate jazz as a universal language of freedom on April 30th. With events taking place in every country on the planet, International Jazz Day 2013 culminated in an evening concert at Istanbul's Hagia Irene that was viewed live by millions around the world and featured pianists Herbie Hancock,John Beasley (Musical Director), George Duke, Robert Glasper, Ramsey Lewis, Keiko Matsui and Eddie Palmieri; vocalists Ruben Blades, Al Jarreau, Milton Nascimento, Dianne Reeves, Esperanza Spalding (who also played bass) and Joss Stone; trumpeters Terence Blanchard, Hugh Masekela and Imer Demirer; bassists James Genus, Marcus Miller and Ben Williams; drummers Terri Lyne Carrington and Vinnie Colaiuta; guitarists Bilal Karaman, John McLaughlin, Lee Ritenour and Joe Louis Walker; saxophonists Dale Barlow, Igor Butman, Branford Marsalis, Wayne Shorter and Liu Yuan; clarinetists Anat Cohen and Husnu Senlendirici; violinist Jean-Luc Ponty; Pedrito Martinez on percussion; tabla master Zakir Hussain; trombonist Alevtina Polyakova; and special guest Martin Luther King III.
International Jazz Day brings together communities, schools and groups from across the globe to celebrate jazz, learn about its roots and highlight its important role as a form of communication that transcends differences. In partnership with the Republic of Turkey, the allstar evening concert was held at Istanbul's famed Hagia Irene. Dating back to the 4th century, the Hagia Irene, located in the outer courtyard of the Topkapi Palace - a UNESCO World Heritage Site - is regarded as an international treasure for music lovers because of its brilliant atmosphere and enchanting acoustics. In addition to being streamed live worldwide at www.jazzday.com and via the UNESCO, United Nations, U.S. State Department and Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz websites, the concert was also taped for future broadcast on public television stations around the world.
Herbie Hancock said, "Using jazz as a tool, I have faith that the music-either through playing an instrument, learning about its rich cultural history, or listening to the millions of recordings made over the past century-will demonstrate that barriers can be broken, unity can be achieved, new forms of expression can be created, and a dialogue between cultures can begin. From my decades long career as a jazz musician, I know first hand that inventive ideas can achieve the impossible, transform humanity, and make productive changes at the grass roots level." "Jazz shows the wealth that rises from diversity," remarked Irina Bokova, Director General of UNESCO. "This music draws strength from a rich mix of peoples and cultures, and it is woven today into the fabric of every society, played across the world, enjoyed everywhere."
As the Global Host City for International Jazz Day 2013, Istanbul also featured concerts, lectures, round tables, workshops, and Q&A sessions with high-profile educators and musicians throughout the city. All of these daytime programs were free and open to the public with panel discussions focusing on "Jazz and Freedom," "Jazz and Women" and "Jazz Festivals and the Art of Promoting Jazz." Lectures included "The History of Jazz" and "Dave Brubeck and Diplomacy."
In addition to the events taking place in this year's host city, thousands of events in 196 countries in every region and continent of the world and all 50 of the United States celebrated International Jazz Day. Kigali, Rwanda presented a "Kigali Jazz 4 Peace" event at the MTN Center Building in Nyarutarama with a film screening and concerts. In Brazil, the city of Sao Paulo celebrated by organizing a special show at Jazznos Fundos to mark the day, with a quartet of great Brazilian musicians. In Italy, the Alexander Platz Jazz Club in Rome presented a concert featuring local artists; and in Malaysia, the Penang Philharmonic Jazz Section marked International Jazz Day with "A Celebration of Jazz 2013" featuring performances by five groups, each with its own unique style and brand of music at Gurney Paragon in Penang.
International Jazz Day was adopted by UNESCO Member States on the initiative of UNESCO Goodwill Ambassador Herbie Hancock, in order to encourage and highlight jazz's unique power for advancing intercultural dialogue and understanding across the world. International Jazz Day is recognized on the official calendars of UNESCO and the United Nations.
The Thelonious Monk Institute of Jazz is working with UNESCO and its Member States, national commissions, UNESCO networks, UNESCO Associated Schools, universities and institutes, public radio, public television and NGOs, as well as jazz clubs, hotels, and restaurants to organize and promote International Jazz Day events worldwide every year. Libraries, schools, performing arts centers, artists and arts organizations of all disciplines throughout the world are being encouraged to celebrate the day through education programs, presentations, concerts and other jazz-focused activities.
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