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Viking '75 Mars Lander Construction, Looking for Viking lander design/construction information |
Viking '75 Mars Lander Construction, Looking for Viking lander design/construction information |
May 17 2012, 12:38 AM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
Greetings all! I am searching for detailed construction and design information about the NASA Viking '75 Mars project hardware, particularly for the lander, aeroshell, base cover, and bioshield. Can anyone recommend good sources? I am especially looking for engineering drawings and under-construction photographs.
To set the stage, here is an album of about 100 drawings and photos which I've collected so far: https://picasaweb.google.com/11379204157387...feat=directlink I have already read the "usual" books, such as NASA RP-1027 "Viking '75 Spacecraft Design and Test", the press kits, the scientific papers produced about the mission, a number of industry papers covering various instruments and subsystems, the major Martin Marietta books, etc. I am hoping to find additional sources. Any ideas? Also, does anyone know if there are aeroshell, base cover, or bioshield components lurking in a museum or in storage somewhere? FYI, I have visited three of the best landers still on Earth: The Proof Test Capsule in the Smithsonian NASM, the Flight Capsule 3 (backup) in the Museum of Flight near Seattle, and the Science Test Lander in the Virginia Air and Space Center. I've taken nearly 1,000 photos of the three of them (most of which are publicly available in other Picasa Web albums of mine). I've taken a few measurements, but I would dearly love to find more authoritative drawings of more hardware (interior, exterior, everything). I have begun submitting some Freedom of Information Act requests to NASA/JPL which has started to bear some trivial but kind of fun fruit. -- Tom |
May 17 2012, 12:32 PM
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Can't remember where I read this, but at least one piece of a spare aeroshell assembly wound up in someones backyard.
Seems like I saw a pic somewhere. Maybe Sky and Telescope a LONG time ago. |
Jun 21 2012, 02:40 AM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
I have begun creating a 3D model of the Viking lander, attempting to be fairly detailed and as accurate as I can manage (based on the references I have, including some 900 photographs I've taken of three authentic landers). I recently completed my first pass at the lander's sidebeam #1, which forms one third of the lander's hexagonal body. Here is a comparison between renderings of the model and photographs of the backup lander body in the Museum of Flight near Seattle.
The model linked above represents the solid machined aluminum beam without any of the brackets, fittings, and flanges which are bolted or screwed to the sidebeam. The attachment points for all those brackets etc. are represented as carefully-located bolt holes. As I understand it, each sidebeam consists of a lander-body long side and half of the adjacent two short sides. The three sidebeams are apparently connected to each other via the vertical landing leg primary support fittings, which are bolted across and under the joints between adjacent sidebeams. The top and bottom cover plates also help to hold the body together; fastener locations for those plates are included in the model. Proportions of the model are based on dimensions I have taken from some authentic landers, various published references, and a lot of photo interpretation and cross-check. I have been careful to ensure that the various points of contact between the lander and its aeroshell are reconciled (three large bolts, one under each leg primary support fitting; six shear points, two under each sidebeam; and three guiderail roller assemblies). If anyone has corrections or questions, I would be pleased to address them! |
Jul 9 2012, 02:06 AM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
I am looking for a good-quality version of an image published in NASA Ref. Pub. 1027, "Viking '75 Spacecraft Design and Test Summary: Volume 1 - Lander Design" issued by the Langley Research Center in 1980. Figure 20 "Lander Body" (on page 25) is what I hope to find.
The PDF version of RP-1027 Vol.1 (10MB) on the NASA Technical Reports Server has an almost illegible image of Figure 20. I have examined two original printed copies of RP-1027 from nearly libraries; in both cases the original halftone printing of Figure 20 is fairly poor. Here is a version which I scanned at 400 DPI from one of the copies. Does anyone know if a photographic print or high-resolution scan of that image is available in some archive somewhere? I recently sent a message to the "Contact Langley" web site asking about this image, in case that turns it up. Edited to add: as a prior reply mentions, I am creating a 3D digital model of the lander. My intention is to make that model freely available, both as a 3D SketchUp mesh and as 2D blueprints. The purpose of the blueprint form is to aid my ultimate goal of scratch-building an actual model, probably 1/8th scale. My collection of published drawings and unusual photos (including "Figure 20" linked above, which shows the lander's internal Equipment Plate) are already shared, in case they help folks also interested in the Viking project. |
Aug 11 2012, 04:10 AM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
I've now completed the first-pass 3D model of the lander's three sidebeams. Here are some comparison actual photos vs. renderings, and one render by itself (sidebeam 3 is in the lower right, #1 on the left, and #2 in the upper right, with meteorology boom mounting bracket attached):
This is only a small fraction of the job, but it's nice to see the shell of the lander in the round. -- Tom |
Aug 29 2012, 02:27 AM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
For those following at home I have added the Viking lander's top cover plate to my 3D model. It was a challenge to reconcile the externally-visible features with Martin Marietta's drawing of the interior Equipment Plate (instrument locations, support posts, etc.). I've tried to minimize the discrepancies. Here is a line drawing of the overall body:
And here is a close-up of the right upper corner of sidebeam 2. Prominent are the mount for the meteorology boom and magnet cleaning brush (on the right corner), and large openings in the top cover for camera 1 (on the right), the biology and gas chromatograph mass spectrometer inlet processors (on the left), and thermal switch contactor for Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generator 1 (partly visible at top): The current state of the 3D model is available here as a SketchUp file (6.8MB; hopefully it's downloadable). I had a very enjoyable phone conversation today with Prof. Jim Tillman of the University of Washington, who along with his daughter were principal agents in saving and restoring the Flight Capsule 3 (backup) lander body. I'm hoping to return to visit the FC3 in the Museum of Flight near Seattle in a few weeks. I'm glad I could share a bit of my enthusiasm for the Viking program with Prof. Tillman and thank him for saving an important historic object. |
Aug 29 2012, 03:41 AM
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There is a model - I'm not sure of its fidelity - at the California Science Center. If there are details there that could be useful, let me know and I'll head over with a camera.
Doug |
Aug 29 2012, 09:38 AM
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IIRC, they've got the actual ground engineering test lander in the lobby of the National Air & Space Museum in DC. I wonder if the curators there have complied a dataset of public-domain information on same; might be worth an e-mail.
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Aug 29 2012, 12:46 PM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
Hi Doug -- regarding the California Science Center's lander, thank you very much for the offer! I suspect that unit is a replica created by Penwal Prototypes, rather than an authentic Martin Marietta unit. I base this largely on the photo shown on the company's web site (look for the Viking Lander thumbnail), compared to on-line photos I've found of the CSC's lander. Details such as Camera 1's clear housing; the mock-up BIO and GCMS inlet processors; the silver foil bands on some leg's white cloth contamination fairing skins; the dark bands wrapping the meteorology boom cabling; the fuel tank and roll-control thrusters, and fuel-line routing and joints. I wrote to Penwal a few months ago asking about their replica and whatever references they may have had, but never received a response.
Overall I don't think it is authentic enough for my purposes, except I am very curious about the exposed camera 1. Did Penwal manage to acquire a surplus original ITEK facsimile camera unit? It seems out of character with the rest of the lander; too much detail. So I would very much enjoy seeing some photographs of that camera's innards (both the upper rotating opto-mechanical part, and the lower fixed electronics part) from various angles. If possible! Hi nprev -- that's the Proof Test Capsule in the National Air and Space Museum. I've actually visited it three times in the last year, and accumulated about 460 photos of that fantastic unit. I have not yet attempted to contact the NASM archive division, which I really should do! Thanks for the nudge. |
Nov 12 2012, 06:11 PM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
In September had the opportunity to spend a couple of days at the Museum of Flight near Seattle WA, and study the Viking lander Flight Capsule 3 (flight-backup) on display there. I took over 500 detail photographs of the lander. I recently completed processing (e.g., brighten shadows, diminish background distractions, add captions) and have uploaded them to a Google Picasa web album if anyone else is interested. They join about 180 photos of the FC3 I had taken a year ago.
The images are about 12MPixels in size. If you use Picasa web's magnifying-glass tool to see the full version, it usually takes five seconds or so before the complete image is available. Before then the little zoom-navigation widget only goes to about half size; the bar will re-scale to access the full detail when ready. I also had a chance to meet Chris Vancil and Eckart Schmidt, both of whom worked to restore the FC3 for display (Eckart worked during the mission at Rocket Research Company on the terminal descent engines), and also Ron Hobbs of the museum staff. It's a great facility with an amazing collection. |
Jun 7 2013, 03:57 PM
Junior Member Group: Members Posts: 27 Joined: 3-May 12 From: Massachusetts, USA Member No.: 6392 |
A few months ago I was delighted to acquire a vintage set of blueprints of the "Viking Lander Body Structure Assembly" by Martin Marietta. With the permission of the UMSF administrators I am making scans of them available to all, hoping they provide useful information or at least enjoyable viewing. Here is a PicasaWeb album.
Overview I suspect this set of blueprints was intended to guide assembly of the core body and its myriad brackets and fittings, rather than to support the fabrication of the various piece parts. There are extensive dimensions listed on the plans (which is what I find so valuable!), but not enough to fully define the parts. The print set consists of 35 sheets. Sheet 1 is composed of over 100 individual pages, consisting of notes, parts lists, and Design Change Notices. Sheets 2 through 35 are the actual shop drawings (one large page per sheet). In the above album I have shown the drawing sheets first, then the various notes pages. What follows in this message are some of my interpretations and explanations of the contents of this historic blueprint set. Five Lander Body Variants Martin Marietta's part number for the core lander body is 837J3100000. The plans show five (5) distinct variants of the body, denoted with tags -009, -010, -019, -020, and -029. All five have unique features (generally quite small). Variants 9 and 29 are fairly close to each other; 10, 19, and 20 have a lot in common. I would love to learn what variants correspond to which manufactured lander body units. There is a table on Sheet 1 page 2.004 which seems to list the five body variants with cryptic nomenclature: ASSY/PART NO. --- NEXT ASSEMBLY --- TT 837J3100000-009 --- 837K0100000 --- PC (?Proof Test Capsule, PTC?) 837J3100000-010 --- 837J1000200 --- TM (?Thermal Effects Test Model, TETM?) 837J3100000-019 --- 837J2000200 --- SD (?Lander Structural Dynamic-Test Model, LDTM?) 837J3100000-020 --- 837J3000200 --- SS (?Lander Structural Static-Test Model, LSTM?) 837J3100000-029 --- 837K0100000 --- <blank> I don't know the meaning of the "TT" column, but I'll guess that it represents the purpose or role of the lander units (perhaps Test Type). If so, I wonder if the table's two-letter designations represent the test units who's names I've added to the table in parentheses. For what it's worth, the Flight Capsule 3 (backup) lander body in Seattle's Museum of Flight has stenciling from Martin Marietta on sidebeam 2 which includes the notation "P/X 837K0100000-009" (as well as "S/N 0000003"). This suggests that the FC3 body is of variant type -009; perhaps the two Flight bodies FC1 and FC2 are also this type? According to the set's revision history information, the initial release of the prints was on 27 June 1972. The revisions incorporated into this set occurred during the interval from 7 March 1973 to 15 January 1975 -- just seven months prior to launch of Viking 1. The last few revisions are mostly re-labeling of part-numbers or changes to fasteners. (Assembly of the Flight landers had been largely completed by late 1974.) The lander body components are assigned Martin Marietta part numbers generally of the form 837J310xxxx-yyy, where xxxx identifies the component and yyy identifies a specific variant. For example 837J3100053-001 is the Surface Sampler's main mount (which happens to only come in one variant). The drawings often do not identify a specific variant in overview contexts, but all components have a formal variant tag. Sheet 1's parts-list pages include a group for each of the five lander variants (e.g., pages 9.001 to 9.021 contain the parts list for variant 9; pages 19.001 to 19.017 list parts for variant 19). I have collated all parts-lists pages into a spreadsheet showing which component variant belongs to which body variant(s). The spreadsheet also enumerates the drawing sheet(s) on which the given component is notably visible. Scan Process My paper copies of the drawing sheets are printed on C-size (17 x 22 inch) sheets, reduced from the master E-size (34 x 44 inch) sheets. The reduction is by a bit over 50%; Martin Marietta's reduction-copy process was a bit casual, yielding some skewed orientations accommodated by wide margins. I suspect this print set came from two different master original printings, because some sheet images are slightly larger with different borders than others. I have rectified the scans to be squared to the image area and of uniform size. I scanned the paper sheets at 600 DPI, which yields an image of about 120 million pixels (nearly 13K by 10K pixels). Google's PicasaWeb service currently allows a maximum image size of 50M pixels, therefore the album contains 300 DPI versions. Each sheet's image caption includes a link to a full-resolution version on DropBox. A few of the drawing sheets are fairly clear prints, but most have extensive background mottling introduced in Martin Marietta's copy/print process. I have begun digitally cleaning the scans. In order to avoid loss of faint and obscured detail this is largely a manual masking job, which is very tedious. To date I have completed masking the first three drawing sheets (numbers 2, 3, 4). I hope to occasionally replace others with cleaned versions. A few of the sheets have annotations applied by a prior owner of the set. I will be removing such annotations during masking. Lander Body Size All linear dimensions are in inches and are usually specified to thousandths. These blueprints confirmed my earlier suspicion that the hexagonal body's long and short side lengths of 43 and 22 inches as stated in some NASA documents are incorrect. The long side length is approximately 43.359 inches; the published figure probably resulted from a simple rounding. However, the short side actual length is approximately 24.566 inches, which is about 10% larger than the published value. The height of the core body (excluding top and bottom covers and some integrally-machined protrusions) is exactly 18.000 inches, which agrees with the published value. By the way the odd values for the side lengths are not direct design parameters. They are derived from the actual design parameters which are the distances from the body geometric center to the perpendicular midpoints of the sides. The design distance from the body center to the midpoint of a long side is specified as exactly 26.700 inches. From body center to midpoint of a short side is specified as exactly 32.125 inches. Application of some mathematics yields the side length values listed above. (I was pleased to discover that length estimates I had made earlier, based on known Aeroshell data, a scale USGS drawing of the lander, and knowledge of the nine-point interface between Aeroshell and lander, were only off by a few hundredths of an inch.) The core lander hexagonal body consists of three (3) sidebeams, each machined from a single piece of aluminum. The three sidebeams are broadly similar but differ in numerous details (flanges, holes, stiffeners, etc.). The sidebeams are spliced or butted together with the vertical joints on the centerlines of the three landing legs. Therefore each sidebeam represents one complete long side and the halves of two adjacent short sides (appearing as angled short "wings" seen from above). Here is a rendering I've created of sidebeam 1. Blueprint Notations Each of the drawing sheets has a border dividing the sheet into an 8 by 8 grid of 64 zones. Zone coordinates range from 1 to 8 (bottom to top) and A to H (right to left). One portion of a drawing will frequently refer to another view or section on the same or a different sheet. Such zone references are denoted by a square containing number / letter coordinates, with a small sheet-number outside the upper right corner. Large circles with multi-line text generally represent part numbers (e.g., 837J3101042-009) or fastener types (e.g., ST25D40-5-3). Small circles containing a dash and three digits denote a simple flat shim part (of which the lander contains dozens). Sometimes the circle is omitted. The three-digit number is the variant tag for the shim's part number, all of which belong to the overall lander part number 837J3100000. For example, a notation of "-075" refers to shim 837J3100000-075. The parts-list pages show the shim's nominal sizes, with width and height larger than final to allow for trimming tolerances. The drawing sheets generally show the final shim sizes (which I've listed in the above spreadsheet when known). Horizontal triangles containing a number are flags which reference one of the notes listed on pages 2.001 to 2.003 of sheet 1. Such notes detail process operations, assembly instructions, etc. Small rectangles define construction reference planes, or specify tolerances in relation to a reference plane or point. In the following example the lower rectangle defines the associated feature (not seen in this fragment) to be Plane E. The upper rectangle specifies that this plane must be parallel ("||") to Plane A (defined elsewhere) within 0.020 inches. A few features on the lander required a particular degree of machined surface finish. These are denoted with a stylized kind of letter J with an adjacent number (representing the roughness average value in microinches). Anachronism Most of sheet 18 is devoted to a prominent component which is not present on the final Flight-type lander bodies. It is an earlier design for the lander's Radar Altimeter Antenna mount (described in the parts list as "Support-LAA" and belonging to body variant 10). This photo of the Thermal Effects Test Model (TETM) has such a projecting assembly, visible at the right upper corner of the front of the inverted body (which corresponds to the lower left corner of sidebeam 2). This reinforces the idea that body variant -010 was used for the TETM, and that "TM" in the table I listed near the top of this write-up is the Thermal Model. |
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Why The iPhone Is Still Unchallenged
Wednesday, 23rd May 2012
I write this article not as an Apple fanboi. Indeed, at the time of writing I don't even own an Apple product. I am, however, starting to accept the inevitability that my next mobile phone will be an iPhone. So why is it I can't even seem to find a David to Apple's Goliath?
Let's look at what I want from a phone and then see how long I can avoid the iPhone.
Starting with the most important, here are my requirements.
- Calls and texts - standard phone stuff that you expect from any phone including things like handling missed calls, finding people I want to dial and the like.
- The Web - it is the only way to prove someone wrong down the pub when they think they know where New Zealand got its name from.
- Email - I want to send and receive email using multiple accounts.
- Social - in particular, Twitter - but maybe even Facebook if the app isn't as dreadful as the Android app.
- Camera - your cat will fall asleep on your keyboard and you need to take a photo and you know you're going to spot a double rainbow, or a colleague will unleash the tornado and you'll need to film it.
- Screen shots - whether you are testing out your ace responsive design, showing someone how to do something or need to capture an error message, you need to be able to get a screen shot off of your phone.
- Upgrades - I'm stuck on Android 2.2 because Motorola wrapped it with Moto-Blur and then couldn't be bothered to upgrade it. According to the Android distribution as at May 1, 2012 - the vast majority of people have the same problem.
- Keyboard - I have owned a lot of mobile phones, but the T-Mobile MDA and the G1 were just better because they had a real keyboard with a proper space bar (it doesn't count as a proper keyboard if the space bar is no bigger than the other keys, or hasn't been put in the middle at the bottom)
So with these in mind I have been busy trying out phones. My long and tiring search for a phone proved that nobody is making what I actually want. A huge number of Android phones are suffering from aged versions of the operating system, you can't seem to take a simple screen shot on Windows Mobile and nobody wants to put a keyboard on their phone.
So if I drop the keyboard requirement, what should I buy? Well, despite my obstinate attempts to avoid it, the iPhone is the phone that does what I want. There's no denying it. I should buy an iPhone.
But what if I do care about the keyboard? When I upgraded from my MDA to the MDA II, which didn't have a one, I ended up getting a Bluetooth keyboard as I missed it so much. Surely this could swing the decision in favour of another phone... Of course not. If you are looking for an accessory, you are unlikely to find a bigger selection for any other phone. There is, in fact, a Bluetooth keyboard for the iPhone and it even clips on the back so it works just like the MDA keyboard that I loved so much.
So this is why you can't avoid the iPhone. It has been around for a while and they have learned a great many lessons, which is why screen-shots have been made easier in the latest version and why they let you update the operating system. Unlike Windows Mobile or Android, there is an incredibly small number or form factors, produced in very high quantities - so people who make accessories can invest in making cases, screen-protectors, docking stations, speakers and, of course, keyboards without having to gamble like they would have to on the Nokia Lumia 710, 800 or 900, which are all different sizes or on a specific HTC or Motorola model, which are all different sizes - oh and some of them use different USB connection sizes for charging and data and nobody puts the USB port in the same place either.
So really my advice to Nokia, HTC, Samsung, Motorola and anyone else making phones is this: No matter what you plan on changing on the inside, try to standardise your form-factor so that any gaps in your product can be filled by the myriad accessory makers, who are currently making iPhones look even better with their accessory ranges.
I'm not saying that all phones should be the same, but if Nokia were consistent across their own range, it would already mean that there are three-times the number of potential buyers for an accessory because it would fit all three new phones. This would lead to more accessories and it would lead to better quality accessories.
It would also mean I actually have a choice when I come to upgrade my phone - a choice I don't currently have unless I'm willing to lower my expectations in order to support an under-dog.

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Actually the next websites listed below are not forums about photography, but forums about web developing and programming, and they are really strict on rules. Anyway they include nice sections about digital photography, with an active community.
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Tutorials, tips, information, resources for webmasters, designers, web artists, professional programmers, or developers. An interesting section of the forum is about digital photography.
The V7 network
Friendliest webmaster forum on the Internet, where is possible to discuss graphic design, scripting, web hosting, search engine optimization. One of the sections is dedicated to digital photography.
Surely Yahoo groups is a platform that offers an incredible variety and a wide range of topics and discussions.
If you know how to use them properly can be a very powerful marketing tools, you can actually touch a large number of users and targeted traffic.
First of all understand well the different guidelines of each groups on advertising issues to avoid spam.
I must say that today many are full of fake members, however, the mass is so huge that posting messages in the groups can bring some really targeted traffic.
It is a must also to diversify efforts so inspect also the new Bing's groups, and those of Google's.
Bing Meetup Groups
The last evolution of MSN groups that has became Bing Meetup Groups, it helps not only for networking but also to plan real meetings in local communities around the world.
Google Groups
The Google groups platform definitively cannot be compared with Yahoo's one but anyway it worth a try, is a good alternative with also hundreds of groups photography related.
Photography Directories
Directories are websites basically made of lists of links gathered together in categories and subcategories.
Can be used to promote a business related to photography or to discover unknow but really interesting websites.
To submit your website must navigate to the category which best describes your photography works and submit it.
The paid options guarantee a faster review procedure and a better placement of your link.
The free listing option, when available, require usually a reciprocal link to be set on your own website.
Click Photographer
This directory provides a list of photographer websites in USA & worldwide, there are several packages to get listed here, but all of them really expensive. There is also a free option.
Free Photo Gallery
This is one of the world's fastest growing catalouge of websites, thoroughly screened and monitored to ensure quality and appropriatenes of content. Free listing is available.
Photo 200
For sure this is the best directory ever for photography related websites, to get listed there are several paid exposure option, and the free option that allow also to add a banner.
Photo Blog Directory
This photography related directory is targeted mainly on photo blogs, there are free and affordable paid options to get listed. If you have a photography related website you should join.
Photo Clicks
Add your photography sites to a category which most closely represents your photography sites content, you can advertise to the photography community also with a free listing option.
Photo Dir
One of the oldest photography directory is database of links to photography website organised by category, region, top sites and sponsors. Free listing available, a chance that you should use.
Photo Links
This is one of the leading online photography directory serving the internet community since 1997 with over 80 categories, more than 30,000 websites, local and worldwide, paid and free listing.
Photo Links Directory
To submit for free your website to this directory, simply navigate to the category which best describes your photography website and submit it, there are more then 300 categories.
Photography Pros
This directory is targeted mainly on wedding photographers, there are three paid packages really expensive, but you can also require a free listing of your own website.
More Directories
You will be able to find free directories, paid directories, niche directories (only related to a specific topic) and reciprocal directories (require a reciprocal link).
Back links is arguably one of the most important part of modern day SEO (Search Engine Optimization) and directories are a good way for a webmaster to promote a website because it will build back links quite in reasonable time increasing also exposure and traffic.
I suggest you first to read the directories lists published on-line where you will be able to find information on them and so decide your strategy.
You can decide to submit to free directories, maybe to use some paid directory investing some amount of money, or to use only niche directories in case you have a photography related website.
You can decide to submit your website manually or using semi-automatic software that can help with the task but do no trust the full automatic procedure.
Remember that links alone do not solve SEO issue; you must always have a good contents rich websites.
About Us
Probably is the world's largest editable directory of websites. Online since 2006 it offers several tools to help website owners to build their web presence and increase the online visibility.
This website is not just a directory but provides information about top sites, internet traffic stats, related links, reviews, contact Information and data for search analytics and SEO optimization.
Best of the Web
Since 1994 it gathers together what is considered the top level online, organized by category, offers content rich and well designed web sites. Submit your URL for an editor review.
Directory Critic
The most complete website about directories of all kind gathered together. Niche directory, paid directory, free directory, article directory, and more all listed by pagerank and category.
Directory Rate
Offers directory lists and resources for webmasters, site promoters and SEOs. All listed directories are carefully reviewed by Directory Rate before admission and can be user reviewed and rated.
Open Directory Project
The oldest, largest, and most comprehensive human-edited directory on internet. It is managed by a global community of volunteers, for this reason it takes time to get listed.
More Resources
Last but not least I listed also a bunch of useful on-line resources, for all photographers.
You can use them to create a website, to upload and store your photos on-line, to present works, or to sell them on-line on micro-stock websites.
Stock photography community providing high quality stock photos and stock images, is one of the biggest resources for webmasters, designers, news agencies and more. Can sell here your photos.
You can sell here your photos, or you can buy here affordable royalty-free stock photo using several kind of plans accordingly to your needs. More than two millions people are using it.
This is the web's original source for user-generated, royalty-free stock photos. Whether you're a designer, advertiser, entrepreneur, webmaster, there are millions of images and clips.
A great community for sharing amateur and professional photographs from around the world - NewPhotoLand
Photo Galaxy
This website allows you to build a website as a photographer. If coding is not for you this is the solution to create a presence online. There are a lot of features with paid membership.
This is a banner exchange website dedicated to photography, you have to insert a code that will show a banner in your own website and your own banner will rotate in all the network websites.


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- Preheat oven to 300 degrees F (150 degrees C).
- To Make Apple Filling: Melt 1/4 cup butter or margarine in skillet over medium heat. Add apple, 1/2 cup white sugar, and 1/2 teaspoon cinnamon. Cook 3 to 5 minutes, until tender. Set aside.
- To Make Buttermilk Custard: In a large mixing bowl combine 1/4 cup softened butter or margarine with 1 1/3 cups white sugar. Beat until creamy. Add eggs one at a time, beating until yellow disappears. Mix in vanilla, then 2 tablespoons flour. Combine thoroughly, then pour in buttermilk, beating until smooth.
- Fit pastry into pie pan and prick with a fork. Spoon apple mixture into crust, then pour buttermilk custard over it.
- Place in preheated oven and bake for 30 minutes.
- To Make Streusel Topping: While pie is baking, combine 1/4 cup white sugar, brown sugar, 1/2 cup flour, and 1/4 teaspoon cinnamon in a small bowl. Cut in 3 tablespoons butter or margarine until mixture is crumbly.
- Remove pie from oven after 30 minutes and sprinkle streusel topping over custard. Return to oven and bake for an additional 40 to 50 minutes, until a knife inserted in center comes out clean. Let stand 1 hour before serving.
Amount Per Serving (8 total)
- Calories
- 549 cal
- 27%
- Fat
- 23.9 g
- 37%
- Carbs
- 80.4 g
- 26%
Based on a 2,000 calorie diet
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machngunjoe 09/02/2011 01:24 PM Report
I agree, Antisemitism is totally on the rise
BENEZRAA 07/12/2011 01:52 PM Report
Objectively speaking, apprehensions and cautions are one thing, pessimism is another. Objective reality suggests that there is far more reason to be optimistic than pessimistic with respect to the present and the future of the ME.
The existence of the State of Israel is a case in point. After more than two-thousand years of exile and persecution, a thriving, multi-cultural, multi-ethnic nation -- well exercised in freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom for women, and even freedom for internal enemies -- is by it's existence a tangible reason for and source of optimism.
That Israel is a Jewish majority State does not negate it's exceptional example of support of and respect for minority rights. I need not repeat, what I myself have written on this subject in this Comment venue on many other occasions -- or do I? Let me know, if such factual reminder is needed.
There is much to be apprehensive about now and going forward. But, I would not project that apprehension onto the ME, nor would I propose relocating the thriving, democratic nation of Israel to AZ (smack dab twixt the Mexico-US Border War) nor to any other place in the world.
As the saying goes, "If it works, don't fix it." Despite the negative sensationalism about the ME, both Israel and Gaza are thriving. The Arabs in Israel, be they citizens or not, are experiencing unprecedented economic growth, as are the Arabs of Gaza, where there is a construction boom, a glut of food and other necessities, and a bonanza in the private purchase of vehicles such as BMV's being smuggled through huge and ubiquitous illegal tunnels between Egypt and Gaza.
The future is never to be taken for granted; waking up in the morning is a daily gift of life, wherever one may live and whatever may be the circumstances of one's life.
Our American attentions are divided between the requirements and distractions of foreign involvements and domestic economic issues, both of which tend to overshadow moral issues and power struggles. There is as much reason or more to be apprehensive about the USA than the ME.
One stunning and salient example is the recent QUID PRO CUOMO -- Homosexual Marriage in NYS in exchange for industrial Hydrofracking. Moral pollution (approved less than two weeks ago) and Environmentall pollution (just a few months down the road) have the weight of the Governor and the Legislature and thus Legal Sanction. This is another step by which the haters of 'Jew York' will profit and expand their ranks by the Hydrofracking and by the Marital Registry (now to include homosexual marriages). Right Wing power may succeed and exceed throughout the nation to the point of all out race, ethnic, and sexual warfare.
There is no national service, thus there is a divide between 'those. who serve' [patriots] and 'those, who do not serve' [civilians], a divide never intended nor anticipated by our Founding Fathers, who by explicit wisdom authored the 'Bill of Rights', codifying the right and responsibility of Citizens to assemble and to bear arms to protect themselves, their families, and the nation from Tyranny.
Remember, the numbers of our private sector mercenary militaries equal or exceed the numbers of our public mercenary military.
Tyranny is knocking on the door to the American future.
robdverity 07/08/2011 09:42 PM Report
Maybe even AZ would allow a parcel for a 51st state?
Admittedly too fatuous for even this forum, but it expresses the hopelessness of the ME IMHO. It wont end good for anyone.
robdverity 07/08/2011 09:36 PM Report
Ben - yours is a plaintive plea. I have no credibility to respond - as a skeptic or cynic (you pick). I have too little faith in humanity (largely spawned by religions).
Here's an (impossible) solution (but the only workable one). A final diaspora to S. AZ. Same lat. (or is it long.?) as Israel. Can build their walls even on the S. border. And they would be welcome.
Anything less will be catastrophic (a la Armageddon type insanity).
So your second and third para's are too prescient.
BENEZRAA 07/08/2011 07:41 PM Report
As there are a number of commentators in this venue, who express deep anti-Jewish and anti-Israel sentiments, I raise a question to this cadre: What vision(s) or expectation(s), if any, do you have for the Arabs and in particular for the Arabs of Palestine, if a State of Palestine should come into existence? Corollary questions to this are: Would Israel still exist as a State in it's present location, or must Israel cease to exist? Will the Arabs make genuine, full peace with Israel? Will a State of Palestine devote itself to peace or will it devote itself to war and the annihilation of Israel?
If your mind is totally invested in the bigoted belief that in this world -- in which there are more than 300 million Arabs, 1.3 billion Muslims, an equal 1.3 billion Christians, similar billions of Africans, Chinese, Indians, and Southeast Asiatics -- a handful of Jews ruin everything for everyone and that therefore the Arabs of Palestine have not only no possibility of peace with Israel, but, they also have an obligation to suffer and to fight against Israel on the behalf of the rest of the world; then I have made that bigoted argument for you right here right now (just in case you haven't heard it before).
If you believe that Jews and Arabs are both the Devil's spawn and should fight each other to death, and that therefore no real peace between Jews and Arabs should be encouraged nor allowed to occur except to hold out false hope for each the Jews and the Arabs, then I have just made that bigoted argument for you as well.
There are those, who have said that the "peace process" has been both littered with and exhausted of workable ideas. I say that any real, workable ideas have been deliberately ignored. Peace just doesn't make 'good copy'. (e.g. Where is the scandal? Where is the brutality? Where is the vulgarity? Where is the crime? etc.). Nor does peace make a good home for demagoguery. While you can't keep all the people scared all of the time, you can keep all of the people scared some of the time, and some of the people scared all of the time. Scare the people and you can beat them up and pick their pockets and they'll worship you for it -- as long as they are scared....
If you have any real, sincere, visionary ideas towards genuine peace between Jews and Arabs and between Arabs and Jews, then please, take a moment or two and contribute you ideas right here right now. And by the way peace between Jew and Jew and between Arab and Arab isn't such a bad idea, either. Perhaps if each were happier with their own, they'd be happier with each other. Then it's up to the world to provide the ninty-nine percent perspiration to your one-percent inspiration that just might make the difference and change the world. I'm waiting.... More importantly the ME is waiting and suffering!
BENEZRAA 07/08/2011 06:10 PM Report
re: "If the Israelis stop kicking them [Palestinian Arabs], my sympathies will also cease." (Robdverity)
TRANSLATION - "If the PALESTINIAN ARABS stop kicking the JEWS, then I (Robdverity] will no longer be sympathetic to the HAMAS, HEZBOLLAH, AND ALL OTHERS DEVOTED TO THE DESTRUCTION OF JEWS AND OF ISRAEL."
Alas, Robdverity, you are no Jerry Seinfeld!
JohnGelles 07/08/2011 03:05 PM Report
At one time the US and Canada were at war. Now they are the best of friends. In my youth, among my closest Jewish brethren were the Canadian Jews with who I went to summer camp. (Several of the best of us died in our war with Germany in the service of the RCAF.)
I mention Canadians because there is a chance that peace will come to the Middle East and Jews and Arabs will no longer be at war.
At present there are joint Arab-Israeli peace activists who see each other's situation -- and want peace to replace the bitterness of the past. These bona fide independent witnesses to the facts, unlike Rob de Verity (real name ??), do NOT cast Jews as villains presently or ever. The are sincere and hate no one on the ground that the one they hate was born to Jewish parents. They seek the truth and and work for peace and understanding.
I am not one of such activists (and perhaps BENEZRAA is also not one either). But in out postings here we speak the truth and work for peace and understanding. Deborah Lipstadt is a scholar we must respect, all of us, for devoting so much of her life to the cause of justice -- above and beyond the call of duty we all hear but so few answer.
robdverity 07/07/2011 08:12 PM Report
Ben - yeah, I'm a regular Jerry Seinfeld. My sympathy for the Pals is akin to that for a kicked puppy (despite their dislike of dogs). If the Israelis stop kicking them, my sympathies will also cease.
Not holding my breath.
BENEZRAA 07/07/2011 06:58 PM Report
You write anti-Jewish, anti-Israeli diatribe purely for the unadulterated pleasure of pushing Jewish buttons. You couldn't care less about the Palestinian Arabs! You take great pleasures in lying (e.g. "The lady had a bigoted approach"). All your "dismay with the ME" is baseless. Nothing you have written remotely offers consolation or support of Palestinian Arabs, who do seek real peace, as you have too much fun enjoying the spectacle of the violence and throwing gasoline on the flames under the guise of attempting to put out the fire. In this you are in the company of many.
robdverity 07/07/2011 05:42 PM Report
John n wdf.. The lady had a bigoted approach. She had her own "CR blog moments" as in declaring anti-Zionists were off base to declare Israel as fascists. All my dismay with the ME is based on my perception of the maltreatment, high-handed cruelty of the Pals by Israelis. Made all the more repugnant with after-the-fact justifications. Now Israelis are tunnelling beneath the Pals homes looking for evidence that they were their first. (Like the USA Indians?) So pushy! So arrogant! So anathema! So . . .
JohnGelles 07/07/2011 01:47 PM Report
The design of Internet audience comment boards, especially this one, is difficult at best -- and failure-prone in general. Self-selected often ignorant, usually stubborn people will attempt to attach themselves as fans of an important host only to make of the board less than joke -- a plain bore.
The usual crowd who end up coloring the total archive do not represent the audience or anything greater than a club of egotist fans who ought to be moderated and used to add quality to the overall project and not just the droppings of the horses parading before the crowd.
JohnGelles 07/07/2011 02:29 AM Report
The Eichmann trial and the Rose-Lipstadt conversation do not invite justification of the murder and torture of innocent children, women and men in any measure or oblique way, such as we are offered in these comments.
Shame on any comment and its author who made such an addition to the CR Show Internet archive.
The conversation was not about hatred of Jews in history. It was about what happened in WW II to innocents and what, if anything, it means to the civilization in which it took place that survives today and will survive tomorrow.
Many minorities are hated and some have experienced genocide. Few experience an Eichmann-like trial or a denial movement that wants to prove it never happened or if it did it was somehow deserved.
The genocide in Cambodia, conducted to rid that nation of innocent children and people who seemed to be in the way of communism as a new belief system, is perhaps a genocide to teach future generations not to do it again for any reason at all.
Genocide against Jews would seem to be set in muddy water--some who know about it are drawn to find merit or excuses mixed with all that pain. May some of them be judged not by me but by the Almighty to a serve a proper sentence where they will know what really happened.
wdfgbnm 07/07/2011 01:14 AM Report
some of the comments posted here reveal anti-semetism and feelings of hostility towards the jews. it is not approprite at all to use a discussion forum about deborah lipstadt's book as a stage to express such hatred.
blank 07/06/2011 10:21 PM Report
just take it out of your money not the charities and the tax deductions enough with the fake i'm not paying attention
usps (united states postal service) -> shouldn't take that long
i'll deal with this at some future time every second i go where i can't do what i need to do is a bad one
it doesn't get scarier than this (and i'm really not paying attention at all so you can do whatever you want)
and if you can't even understand this then i don't know it's not my fault
i'll deal with everything as an afterthought some point down the line
aright i'm out (just remember the money it's not a joke enough as using the suffering people as an excuse look at yourself and all the money you have)
all the money you made lying to me and using me and screwing my life up
AntonGrambihler 07/06/2011 08:42 PM Report
When will Charlie Rose have conservations with Palestine Gentile Refuges who want their land back that is being ILLEGALLY occupied by Israel?
robdverity 07/06/2011 06:55 PM Report
Well perhaps. Prime movement toward the melt down was made with the purchase of the repeal of Glass-Steagall by Citibank's Robert Rubin and Sandy Weill. Lloyd Blankfein CEO G-Sachs, yadda, yadda.
Seemed to fit your prev. post: ". . . that because they are special in the eyes of God other peoples are jealous and persecute them for it. Couple that with the fact that during the Middle Ages Christians were forbidden to lend money for interest, thus it was left for the European Jews to become the money lenders. Remember Shakespeare's Shylock?"
Being clever (especially with impunity) a way of getting even. Social conscience obscured for gain and disdain. Took a degree of Shylock-cleverness to scuttle the world's ec. without even a hint of imprisonment to any of the perps.
tabs 07/06/2011 06:21 PM Report
"If Jews were not involved (as CEOs etc) of the financial institutions, would the sub prime melt down still have happened?"..Robdeverity
This comment deserves an answer. The answer is YES the sub prime disaster would still have happened. It had nothing to do with any religious or ethnic persuasion. The sub prime disaster was a function of a generation of men only knowing the consequences of risk in the abstract form as they had never experienced the consequences (reality) of their risky behavior. Therefore they were likely to take those risks. The Depression generation and prior generations understood that their actions had real consequences. This is a stunning mindset that is still prevalent today in our political and financial leadership. All one has to do is listen to the financial and political leadership argue about rearranging the deck chairs while the deck of the Titanic becomes awash in deficit and debt. One has been of the opinion since 1980 that nothing is going to dissuade them from conducting business as usual until the ship sinks beneath them. Then they will get the magnitude of their folly.
tabs 07/06/2011 05:51 PM Report
The horror and comeuppance for Western Civilization in particular is how could so cultured and civilized a nation that brought Martin Luther, Bach, Beethoven, Goethe among others be so complicit in the barbarity of the genocide that the Holocaust was? The answer for that, is that in all men there is a darkness that belies the fact that we are not so distant from the trees after all. To acknowledge and accept that fact along with remembering our capacity to love is our saving grace. One might even say our transcendent grace.
blank 07/06/2011 05:26 PM Report
it doesn't matter i'm not reading it's just tick tock you're a duck quack quack it's not complicated it's not my job to convince you how serious this is
your mind is somewhere else
robdverity 07/06/2011 05:12 PM Report
tabs - re Shylock: If Jews were not involved (as CEOs etc) of the financial institutions, would the subprime melt down still happened? Too clever by . . .
tabs 07/06/2011 04:51 PM Report
The Jewish state of Israel in particular has used the post Holocaust mantra of "Never Again" as justification for its actions. Perhaps the reason why anti-semitism is prevalent is that Jews have a smug self assurance that they are God's chosen people and are thus special. By being special they set themselves apart from other peoples and don't fully assimilate their idenity into the fabric of the culture of the peoples they live among. The corollary being that because they are special in the eyes of God other peoples are jealous and persecute them for it. Couple that with the fact that during the Middle Ages Christians were forbidden to lend money for interest, thus it was left for the European Jews to become the money lenders. Remember Shakespeare's Shylock?
JohnGelles 07/06/2011 03:33 PM Report
are NOT the exclusive inheritance of Germans.
JohnGelles 07/06/2011 03:31 PM Report
The murder of millions of innocent women and children solely because they were born into Jewish families by the German nation and most of its people during WW II is discussed by Charlie Rose and Deborah Lipstadt as part of an on-going attempt by members of the human race to express sympathy for Jews who still feel the pain of both remembrance of the suffering and recall and experience of the hate that inflicted or tolerated it.
Sadly, when Americans examine our experience of slavery and conquest of the Indian nations, we know that evil, murder, theft of property, teeth, labor and life, and hate and all its consequences, are the exclusive inheritance of Germans.
Still, when REMant writes, after hearing this discussion,
..... "There seems to have been a belief among Zionists that might trumps right. They are not prone to talk about natural law, etc. Berlin was also this way, not to mention those who slaughtered Palestinians and British to establish a Jewish state, which still seems to be going on. ...
....."Ben Gurion was quite well aware that Palestinians fought them to retain their land, but his answer was to increase the size of his army. ..."
-- when Remant writes, he is not moved by one of history's darkest moments -- he is rather moved to find Zionism is outside the boundaries of nationalism BUT the record of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and his followers and their role in the murder of millions of Jews under German leadership and afterwards, as OK.
The Jews who live in Israel include a near majority who were exiled from Islamic lands after Israel was reborn. Their land and property were stolen while REMant was blinded by his prejudice. There are many Christian Zionists; and some Christian anti-Semites remain -- to find common cause with Muslim anti-Jewish activists.
robdverity 07/06/2011 03:21 PM Report
She validates that Israel's built on Western Hemispheric guilt and is anxious to continue to capitalize on it with continual reminders of the Holocaust as the survivors die off. About two generations and it will be much harder.
She also decried anti-Zionists that declare Nazi tactics are employed by Israel. Well easier said than done. The Palestinian Kill ratio is skewed all over the place. Well in excess of 1:1. Throw in embargos, road blocks, noncontiguous farms, settlements, yadda, yadda.
A Stockholm syndrome? Das boot.
Jewish history is tortured starting with banishment from Egypt, then E. Europe and Russian Pogroms. Do they ever ask why?
tabs 07/06/2011 03:14 PM Report
While Hitler hated the Jews and wanted to get rid of their presence in Germany and Europe in general, the Holocaust was not a foregone conclusion. That is until the December 1940 speech before the Reichstag where Hitler blamed British and American Zionists for continuing the war against him in the West and as result of that he was going to implement the final solution. Hitler also made it very clear to his generals that his coming war in the East was going to be unlike any other war in its brutality. Hitler made quite sure that there was no paper trail leading back to him nor was it spoken of in any of the daily meetings and conferences he held. It is most likely that Hitler told Heinrich Himmler privately to start the mass murder of the undesirable peoples of Europe.
The mechanistic industrial like slaughter of the Jews and others was put into place by Reinhardt Heydrich at the Wannsee conference at the beginning of 1942. Heydrich was quite a paradox in that he was related to the famous composer, played the violin, was a good family man, flew fighter aircraft in combat over the Eastern Front, was shot down behind enemy lines and escaped back to German lines but in the end was also a monster in his dispassionate attitude for the murder of millions. What is striking is that the Germans who administered the Holocaust were so dispassionate about their work that they might as well have been moving boxes around Europe instead of murdering millions. What is startling is that as Germany's defeat closed in the Germans quickened the pace of the Holocaust to get the job done.
Finally the question arises of how did Hitler come by his hatred of the Jews among others. For that one must remember that anti-semitism was common place in Europe before WW1, the irony is that Germany was the one country that assimilated the Jews into the fabric of the nation. In Poland, the Baltic States and in Russia among others the Jews were hated and treated as second class citizens. Against this backdrop Hitlers father was an illegitimate child of a maid who worked in a Jewish household in Austria. The speculation was that Hitlers grandfather was a Jew. Since Hitlers father was an extremely authoritarian figure it is likely that Hitlers relatively passive Mother in a pique might have disparaged his father to Hitler as being a Jew. Couple that with Hitlers pre WW1 days in Vienna as a wana be artist and his likely reading of the Czarist secret police's forgery "The Protocols Of Zion" as a Zionist plan to take over Europe, the ultimate blaming of the Jews for the defeat of Germany in WW1 and the stage is set for the one time Bohemian near do well to unleash the Holocaust.
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It is really not about remembering, rather it is about learning not to do it.
Yes, the Survivors of the Holocaust embracing the Rwandans make a good story but a better story would be the Rwandans having learned from the Survivors and stopped the slaughter.
Some 800,000 Tutsi and opposition Hutu were exterminated in the swiftest killing spree of the twentieth century (Bosnia was about at that same time too).
The United States has never intervened to stop genocide. This book is an effort to understand why:
Perhaps Israel can step up and take the world lead against genocide with the same passion she discusses in "The Eichmann Trial".
REMant 07/06/2011 10:44 AM Report
There seems to have been a belief among Zionists that might trumps right. They are not prone to talk about natural law, etc. Berlin was also this way, not to mention those who slaughtered Palestinians and British to establish a Jewish state, which still seems to be going on. This separates them not only from Christians, and Germans generally, but also a good part of the Old Testament. Ben Gurion was quite well aware that Palestinians fought them to retain their land, but his answer was to increase the size of his army. I think she'll have do more than simply assert Jews have always been hated and scapegoated for no reason, or that they have suffered from a paucity of power.


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The prosecution and defense in the trial of Mark Strong delivered closing arguments Tuesday afternoon.
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FIFA general secretary Jerome Valcke has called for unity between football's governing body and local organizers as the countdown to the 2014 World Cup in Brazil continues, following tensions over preparations for the tournament.
Valcke was in Rio to mark 100 days to go until the Confederations Cup, an event which serves as a test run ahead of football's four-yearly showpiece event.
During his tour of the country, Valcke was accompanied by organizing committee members Bebeto and Ronaldo, two former Brazilian national team stars who tasted World Cup victory.
Romario, a teammate of Bebeto's during Brazil's 1994 triumph, was named President of the Brazilian Tourism & Sports Commission on Wednesday.
The former striker has been a firm a critic of Valcke in the past after the Frenchman condemned Brazil's World Cup preparations.
The criticism led to calls for Valcke to be removed from proceedings, but he insists the situation has been resolved.
"I just wish him all the best," Valcke told CNN. "I hope in his position he will support (us).
"I know that sometimes he has hard words on FIFA, on the World Cup, on different people, but at least I hope that he will support and is supporting the World Cup as a sporting event."
The South American country's preparations for its second World Cup -- and first in more than 60 years -- have been beset by problems.
Brazilian Football Federation president Ricardo Teixeira stood down in March 2012 amid allegations of corruption, while concerns have been raised over whether stadia will be ready on time.