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Romney A Role Model? No Way! Mom Talk
Mitt Romney's foot-in-mouth disease causes him to lose respect.
As parents, we are challenged to be role models for our children. If that weren't tough enough, we must also help guide our kids to selecting others as role models.
For example, we teach kids to respect people in positions of authority: teachers, principals, police officers, mayors, senators, and presidents. Yes, presidents. It's hard to believe this time of year that our leaders vying for the highest public office act the way they do.
With that in mind, Mitt Romney made a statement recently that is causing me to break my own rule of not writing about politics. If he were to win the election, I could not imagine how I could point to him and say to my children, "There is a man we must honor and respect."
"There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what," Romney said at a $50k-a-person fundraiser. "All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to healthcare, to food, to housing, to you name it."
Here's the real kicker:
"My job is not to worry about those people," Romney said. "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."
That kind of obnoxious comment shows total disdain for the very people he may be sworn to represent. He says point blank that it is not his job to worry about the people who vote for President Obama "no matter what."
Any civics teacher would tell you that is absolutely false. Our elected officials must and should represent everyone within their jurisdiction. Its a shame that Romney does not feel that way. It is a shame that he is a candidate for the highest office in the land and he does not feel that way.
Regardless of what our individual political views are, we still have a duty to teach our children to respect authority. Lord knows we haven't always had stellar characters in the White House. Electing presidents who lack moral fiber is a practice we, Americans, should stop.
Governor Romney, with all due respect, as a voter taking personal responsibility for my life, it is easy for me to say that you simply are not good enough to be a role model for my children.
John Roberts
5:08 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Obama not telling Judge if the Indefinate detention is being illegally used until the courts decide if it is constitutional or not and Romney saying 47% of Americans do not matter to him at some rich guys fundraiser for him neither Romney nor Obama are roll models....John Quincy Adams,Thomas Jefferson,George Washington,Benjamin Franklin even though he was a drunk would make better roll models that any person alive today.or could ever be alive.....Besides Ron Paul speaking of the fundamental reasons and knowledge of what this country is supposed to be and it's founding principals.
R. Paxson
11:54 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Truthfully folks you should stop reacting to campaign diversions and spend your time worrying about national and world affairs. Our President may be a terrific showman but as a leader of the free world he lacks. BHO's legacy may not be that he was our country's first minority President but that his visions orchestrated our country's moved toward socialism and the demise of close alliances in the Middle-East and beyond. Please everyone, focus on making this country viable again.
6:42 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Romney is trying to teach self respect. Take responsibility for yourself, stop accepting handouts. We have generations on welfare, in fact, a record number of people on welfare. He simply believes that if you want to help yourself and get off of welfare, the government will help you. But, if you want the American Dream without doing any work, then you are out of luck. I agree with Romney, and he is a role model for stating this.
Diana Ritchie
11:54 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
But the thing is, the majority of that 47% are NOT on welfare...they can be seniors living on social security, disabled vets, WORKING people below a certain income threshold. As a matter of fact when NBC "fact checked" the 47% comment, they said that 60% (of the 47%) HAVE JOBS. Nearly half the rest are retired - they HAD jobs. These people do (or have) paid other types of taxes - such as payroll & SS tax. To just "throw away" this whole group and label them as irresponsible is, well, irresponsible!!
john doe
2:53 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
The author might want to interview an entitled person. There are millions of them in Chicago. C'mon missy. Get your hoodie on and go rumble.
Flora Dora
3:13 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Listen up, Lori. I am a senior citizen who gets social security. My city pension is not taxed by my city. My mother who at 96 is destitute and pays no tax but does receive Medicaid so that she can receive nursing home care is not a freeloader. She took care of herself and her children while her husband was off fighting WW II. We are both grateful for Medicare. I hope you are never out of work and in need of help feeding your family. It could happen.
Romney was not referring only to people on welfare who are often in need temporarily while they get on their feet. Did you know that the Senator of MA , Scott Brown was a needy child who received government assistance? Mitt isn't teaching anything. He knows alot about avoiding taxes. ( He found a loophole to save the tax on a $77.000 vet bill for their horses.) But he does write a check for the Mormon church - he tithes! He avoided the draft 4 times with his money and none of his sons has been in the military. And they have not been taught by their parents that when much is given much is expected. One son recently gave a bellhop a $2 tip for taking care of enormous luggage. What do they know about people who rely on tips?
Lyle Hughart
1:58 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Right on Lori - if you listen to the polsters they are saying this evryday. A certain percentage has made up its mind X% are going to vite for Obama, X% are going to vote for Romney. It is the balnce that have to be swayed to win.
It is easy to critizise each candidate. Obama in his book says that push come to shove he would come down on the side of the Muslims. I am not sure what he meant but I do not think we should blow it out of proportion.
Obama says we have to tax the rich! What he does not say is that tax income is approximately 0.7% of the yearly deficit and approx .2% of the total budget. So like ALL politicians he is trying to miss lead people into thinking that taxing the rich is somehow going to solve our problems.
What both partioes and candidates need to say is that we all need to sacrifice or we are going to become a debtor nation and then we will follow the path of Greece.
Medicare is going broke. Obama's does not say that. His way to fix it was to take $500 bil out of Medicare and put it into Obamacare. He says he will eliminate\reduce fraud. But when has our government ever reduce fraud? Obama said he would go through the Budget line by line. That promise lasted until the end of his first campaign.
In Romney we have a business man who has experience fixing problems - Utah Olympics.
Brian Suste
6:55 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
If this is your big worry heaven help us! I think you missed the boat on what Mr. Romney was saying, the Democratic base of 47% will never vote for him and he is focusing on the independent voters to win this election. With the economy stagnant, jobless rate above 8% (actually in the upper teens) and a deficit approaching SIXTEEN Trillion with an annual deficit of ONE Trillion (spending 1 Trillion more than we take in annually), all of our futures are looking rather bleak. We are not looking for a role model but someone who can move this country in the other direction.
Deanna Komendant
7:20 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
There is nothing wrong with what Romney said,although 47% might be alittle high.Obama could do a horrible job,but there's that percentage that will still vote for him no matter what he does or doesn't do.Obama's a talker,not a doer.He wants you to sit there,take money from the government and let the government run your life.He degrades anyone out there who is making good money because of their hard work.Qbama figures these people need to give alot of their money back to the government,so they can give it to the people who don't want to work.The government needs to step aside and let people make decisions for themselves!
Tim L.
3:12 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
So a good role model is someone who takes from the middle class, puts companies out of business, defaults on loans and gives lavish bonuses to his rich investor coworkers? Get your facts straight Deanna.
Tom Klimczak
2:29 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Right you are, Tim.
Romney's at least as good as the role model who handed over taxpayer dollars to a political crony (Solyndra) only to see it all evaporate and the chumbalones take it again.
Barry's never run a hot dog stand, and knows nothing about business except what his fellow professors and idealogues taught him.
Tim L.
2:51 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
So Tommy Boy I don't get the hot dog stand reference. Did Mittens and Bain acquire a hot dog stand then take out a bunch of loans on it, not pay those loans back and then close shop? Or are you saying you want Dick Portillo to be the next POTUS? Did Faux News tell you that hot dog vendors are worthy presidential candidates?
Tom Klimczak
4:09 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Timmy, it's simple. Barry has no clue how business works. He only understands reparative eonomics. He has no clue how wealth is created, only that it can be taxed and distributed to those he deems more worthy.
Solyndra took over $500,000,000 in loans from the taxpayers at Barry's insistence and then closed shop.
Did CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC/DNC tell you that inexperienced college professors make worthy presidential candidates? Oh wait. They did. Got it from the DNC fax.
4:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
What Barry needs is to learn trickle down economics. That plan that the Republicans keep believing in has worked so well over the past 12 years. Maybe we need to cut takes even lower so all those with wealth will create jobs...been there done that and it doesn't work.
Do the Republicans have any other tricks up their sleeve?
And by the way what is Mitt's plan eaxctly...oh yeah just do the opposite of what Barry is doing/has done...at least that is what it is today because Mitt keeps changing his mind depending on who he is talking to on a certain day.
Tom Klimczak
4:32 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
What Mitt needs is to learn is trickle up economics. That plan that the Democrats keep believing in has worked so well for the USSR and Cuba. Maybe we need to raise taxes even higher so all those with government jobs will take all wealth...been there done that and it doesn't work.
Do the Democrats have any other tricks up their sleeve?
And by the way what is Barry's plan eaxctly...oh yeah just do the opposite of what JFK advocated and Reagan did...at least that is what it is today because Barry keeps changing his mind depending on which elitist professor he is talking to on a certain day.
Tom Klimczak
12:32 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Of course, Timmy does not understand the hot dog stand reference.
For those, like Timmy, who simply don't get it, it is a reference to the blank page resume that Obama brought to the 2008 campaign. To distract from the relative lack of credentials (Hillary was better qualified, but Barry's foreign policy mess has all but shot down her chances in 2016), Barry chose a set of phrases so simple that the MSM ran with it.
The simple fact is, Obama looks at his goals and intentions, rather than the actual effect of his policies. Why? He simply does not understand what it takes to run a business in this environment. He does understand class envy and raparative economics, but has little understanding how the revenue gets generated in the first place. To Obama, business is simply a source of tax revenue, nothing more.
Robert Green
8:10 pm on Saturday, September 29, 2012
Those of you who believe that "Trickle Down Economics" doesn't work...I suggest you apply for any future jobs you wish to hold from an indigent, living in a cardboard box under a bridge someplace! Obviously, money never runs down hill, but up hill!!! Another thing to consider is that Unions and Governments are Parasites! If they didn't extract capital from those they represent by force, they would have nothing! Government jobs only come from the extraction of capital from the private sector!
7:28 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Yes, I believe Romney's comment was made in regards to VOTES. He was not talking about writing off a large group of people if he were to win the election. Obviously there is a group of people who will never vote for him no matter what he does. I think the media is once again running with something taken out of context.
7:31 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
It is so funny how many people listen to 5 minutes of the liberal press including the patch(read) and make up their minds on who a great guy is and a bad guy is. This country is about to become like Grease. Obama wants America to be like his father wanted it, on the same level as the rest of the world. We will be a third world country. Romney's comments are true. 47% will vote for Obama, just like they did for all the other candidates who have run for president. Look at the numbers over the last 50 years. All the polls show the numbers as a 52%-47% with 1% undecided,etc...
I teach my children that the world does not owe them a living and that they must work hard in school and in the work place to get ahead. Obama discourages that, he is a socialist. This country is getting worse by the day with the most people on food stamps in the history of America and unemployment at an all time high. Our National deficit is 16 trillion and climbing. Go blame Bush if you want but it is not true, it is what the press wants you to think.. So when people go to the polls in Nov they will think They are both bad but Obama is the better guy, not true. Ask his brother George, who lives in a shack in Kenya and can't get help from his own brother. Romney has helped countless people he doesn't even know. You will never hear about it from the liberal left wing press. Try educating yourself before you write Erin,
Tim L.
3:27 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Bob have you and the rest of your right wing nutjobs always been this whiney? If the Patch is part of the liberal press why do you keep reading it? I know Fox News and Rush are complete jokes but at least watching and listening to them would make you happier.
Can you list everything that Obama has done that makes him a Socialist?
How many times have you seen 2016? Getting your facts from a hack partisan movie doesn't make you educated by the way.
Even Conservatives are turning on Romney. He is such a joke and it is laughable how wingnuts like you can't handle the facts that he will not win the election. I will bet you $10,000 (see Romney) that Obama wins.
Lyle Hughart
2:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tim, you are going off the deep end. It is that kind of talk that drives this country into a more divided country. Remember what Obama said, we should be civil in our discussions. But of course for him that lasted about one week. It is important to talk about differences but not try to belittle or besmirch the other guy for stating his position.
The Democrats like to say that "bushes wars" were off budget. BUT, all wars are off budget - WWI, WWII, Korean War, Vetnam War. But Bush was on the way to paying down the deficit until the bubble burst. Both sides are quilty in making the housing bubble. The Democrats forced the banks to make loans to those who did not have good credit. Fanny Mae\Freddie Mac purchased those loans (a govenment backed entity). That was the first problem. The second problem was when the banks or other financial institutions found a way to divide up these mortgages and sell them to the public. SO BOTH PARTIES HAD AN EQUAL PART IN CAUSING THE BUBBLE. When Bush tried to reign in Fanny Mae\Fredie Mac the Democrats said NO, they are doing a good job (incl Senator Obama). Those orginizations are still indebt to tune of appro $300 bil. So lets talk sensibly and figure out how we are going to save Medicare for our selves and our children. When we pay into Medicare we are paying only 40% of the costs. No wonder it is going broke.
Tom Klimczak
4:11 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Have any of you ever met a happy, non-whiny liberal?
9:39 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Bob you're right! I always told my "kids" you get nothing for nothing in this world. You have to work for it. I don't understand how anyone could vote for Obama he is such a socialist. Spending money we don't have, bringing us into a world with such anger. Yes, I'm a republican but also an independent. Can't people SEE what's happening?
Tim L.
11:06 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Evelyn you could try anger management or stop watching Faux News, listening to Rushie and reading Drudge as those might help your anger issues.
Tim L.
11:10 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Have any of you ever met a positive, well-informed, semi-intelligent, generous, non Faux News watching, non-whiny Conservative? I know that is a lot to remember, basically what I am asking is has anyone met a Conservative who is the opposite of Tommy Boy?
Tom Klimczak
11:47 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tim, don't you have to be up early to get to Starbucks?
Run along now Barrista!!
<grinning every time I take a shot at ya>
7:52 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Romney's done. He's alienating one group after another. He seems to think that going after the "rich white guy" vote is all he needs. The country is changing in makeup. The Republican Party will either change their outreach, or go the way of the Whigs.
8:42 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Another thought. As I've asked before, and I'm truly puzzled by this; Is Mitt Romney really the best guy that the Republican Party could come up with? The party of Reagan can't find someone with a personality? Seriously, considering the economy, this is your election to lose ... and sure enough, you're losing.
Roy Rumaner
5:21 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Olddeegee, the republican party knew from the start they couldn't beat Obama this year so they put someone in there that had nothing to lose and they knew couldn't win. In four years they will be back again (just look at the war chest they have been building this year) and then they will try to put someone serious up for election. The problem is by then they will have lost so much of the country based on their current platform, they will have to make major changes during the next four years or they will become irrelevant.
Lyle Hughart
2:25 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
You forgot that Obama is the one who is conducting a class warfare. He talks about taxing the rich. The increased taxes he is talking about (see Oabma's Budget on line at Whitehouse.gov.) amounts to $71 bil dollars. That is 0.7% of the annual deficit or 0.25% of the total Budget. That is like a saying a family of $40,000 with a expenses of $60,000 will solve its financial problems with an additional income of $210.00. The problem is that BOTH parties have continued to pass legislation without the income to pay the costs.
8:01 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
I agree with Romney, but that's not something you say out loud. He's alienating too many people. He needs to follow the golden rule of politics: Say anything you have to to get the votes..then back-pedal after the election.
the brick guy
8:47 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
I see the from HP moved here. Your president has made us the laughing stock of the world, 16,000,000,000,000 in debt, a ambassador and three Americans have been murdered and he does NOTHING, socialist medicine, he supports taking money from taxpayers and redistributing to people who have no desire to work, is splitting this country down the middle, tells me that Idid not build my business that the government did, A freakin toaster is better than this idiot.
Julie Kulhanek
8:18 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
What Romney said is true. That 47% will not vote from him and he needs to forget about them - he was talking about votes (it's good strategy - concentrate on votes you can get). On the other hand you would rather have your children's role model be someone who believes in redistribution on your wealth? "The trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some [wealth] redistribution -- because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot." - Obama (this is not capitalism - it's socialism). Also the republican party is far from perfect, but at least God was included in their platform from the beginning (Democrats originally didn't have God in their platform at all and had to take three votes to put him back in the platform) and the republicans don't believe in the HHS mandate (taxpayer funded abortion). I believe my values and the ones I want my children to have are based more off the republican party then the democratic party. Do I agree with everything the republicans do? No absolutely not, but their values are much closer to what I want my children's role model to be. You work hard and you give back your money and your time and you honor life. Research both men and their history. Look at the vast differences in their past and present and then tell me who is more qualified to lead this country both financially and morally.
Tim L.
3:30 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Obama. He has a moral compass, while Romney and Conservatives do not. Getting your money by cheating the system does not make you qualified to be the POTUS.
Tom Klimczak
12:26 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Barry's moral compass:
What can I regulate today? Is there something else I can tax? How do I reward my friends today?
It's The Chicago Way on a national stage.
Educate yourself, Tim. Stop watching the MSM and MSLSD.
my opinion
1:37 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
What has the Community Organizer ever done?
Romney is a self made millionaire. Not a bad role model for my kids.
Who should be your kids role model, Biden? I give more to charity every year then he does. The dems problem is, yeah lets help everybody with "Your" money (taxes) not my own individual money.
Tim L.
2:58 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy Boy, I tried watching Faux News yesterday and I saw this...
Great in-depth coverage on a fake story. Did you see how many times they mentioned this made-up story during their broadcast? Did you hear the glee in their voices when they were announcing it? Incredible fact checkers and story vetting at 'fair and balanced' Faux News as always. Do you seriously watch and believe this garbage or are you too young (you seem to whine a lot) or lacking in education (or intelligence) to know any better. I've got a bunch more of the lies and mis-information that Faux News shows their viewers, just let me know if and when you want to see them and I will fire them your way.
Tom Klimczak
4:14 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Timmy. Give up the MSNBC. It's lowering your IQ.
Aren't you late for your Collectivist Economic Theory class? Run along now.
Tim L.
11:14 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy Boy, here is some more fiction from Faux News...Enjoy!!!
You should really try to ween yourself off this, it is turning your brain to mush.
Tom Klimczak
11:48 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Nice, Tim.
How about you actually attend an economics class and learn something.
Put down the Chomsky and read 'How The World Works' bu Jude Wanniski.
Tom Klimczak
12:02 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Little Timmy, whatever will you do when your government job goes away?
Collect an allowance from Mommy & daddy? Lucky you, Barry hasn't sound a way to tax that income yet.
8:31 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
His characterization of the "47%" was dead wrong. http://factcheck.org/2012/09/dependency-and-romneys-47-percenters/
And I like how he refers to the tape of his comments as just a "snippet", when it included the whole thing - yet "...You didn't build that..." keeps getting touted in the right-wing media as being the meat of what the President said. Funny.
my opinion
1:40 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Ray, it was just a snippet. Jimmy Carter's grandson edited the tape before giving it to mother jones. He admitted that it wasn't the whole speech.
Tom Klimczak
2:30 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Details details.
The MSM has a chance to take a cheap shot at a Republican and they do not hesitate.
Handed information that might tarnish Barry's halo and they can't verify its authenticity.
Tim L.
3:00 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy Boy, do made up pirate stories repeated 19 times on Faux News & Friends qualify as a cheap shot in your book?
Tom Klimczak
4:16 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Actually the MSM is king of the cheap shot. They keep propping up your empty suit and willingly report his whinings that the economy is not his fault, etc.,...
You could call all their election reporting on Romney a massive cheap shot campaign.
Tim L.
11:16 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Hey Tommy Pirate Boy, you going to answer my question or are your jumping ship on this one?
Tom Klimczak
11:57 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tim, compared to the alphabet soup propaganda that has obviously consumed your inexperienced mind, Fox News has been a breath of fresh air. Instead of constantly bombarding its viewers with the 'crisis du jour that only a massive government intervention can prevent', Fox generally reports as is.
If you're going to quote the Daily Koz and take stories out of context like that, I suggest perhaps quitting your government job and applying at one of the networks. I'm sure you can pick up and read a fax from the DNC as well as any of them.
Tim L.
12:20 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Pirate Tommy, "Fox generally reports as is"
*hilarious* and *stupid comment* and *wrong*
8:37 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
i agree with Romney, he is saying what people are thinking, but afraid to say. Too many are taking and depending on government subsidies to live on generation after generation,. There should be tougher qualifications and LIMITS to how long and who can get this help. They should have to work for it, and given a time to get off of the help. I know the economy is bad, but hand outs arent the way to make the people take responsibility for themselves, this only goes backward./ I feel bad for Romney trying to talk up jobs, because many who will vote for Obama really dont want jobs, they want handouts and more of them. Pay attention i said MANY people, not all.
Tom Nosal
8:49 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Obama/Romney - Romney/Obama. It don't matter. Neither one has a single clue on the problem or how to fix it. If they do, they sure are not sharing it with us.
The problems in this country are never going to get fixed until whoever is in the White House and the other 500+ congress-people down the street actually start acting like adults and not children. When they can actually put the American people first and start working for us instead of trolling for votes, maybe we can resolve these issues and start moving forward.
Common Sense
8:59 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Erin, go back to not writing anything about politics. It's obvious that you don't comprehend that statement and as so many are taking it out of context. When it comes to campaigning Romney is right, 47% of the people are going to vote for Obama no matter what. And most of the 47% will vote for a democrat no matter what. When my daughter 4 years ago told me that she was voting for Obama I asked her why, her answer "Because he is black and against abortion". She said that she was going to vote for him to prove she wasn't a racist and as far as the abortion statement, because she wouldn't think of getting an abortion yet if others want to get one she said let them.
Obama is a good talker, a good butt kisser, yet if you listen to him you leave scratching your head....A Bill Clinton he is not.
Romney's is going after the 53% that will get him elected, I truely doubt that either political party could pass a law that will effect only their party. Yes he is not worried about the 47% that will vote for Obama, he also is not worried about the 47% that will vote for him. In a fundraising spot you are worried about the 6% that will tilt the vote in your favor.
Sam Stevens
8:59 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Lazy lazy lazy Obama voters!!!!!! It's not what America can do for us... It's what we can do for America!!!!
Gale Bakalik
12:03 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
I'm glad you voiced the opinion you did Sam. Lazy independants too, they just take what they hear in the liberal media as fact. They need to be looking for more factual info about both Romney & Obama.
9:03 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Bla bla bla. You just proved his point, Following the Democrats over the cliff like a bunch of lemmings. Its lazy journalism at best , picking up the obama narrative. Lemont patch is becoming the mouthpiece for the Left and "Here's the real kicker" your alienating half your readers. You obviously have no clue what Mr.Romney has done in his life if you think he not a role model.
Just keep saying what your told
" Bain,Bain ,Bain."
Tim L.
3:35 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Hey Brian, if you feel so alienated by reading the Patch then stop reading it. I don't watch Fox News because it is garbage. I also don't go on their website and complain about them alienating me. There are plenty of non-liberal media sources for you to watch why don't you waste your time there and stop being so whiny?
Tom Klimczak
12:28 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Hey, Tim, is is garbage news to simply pull the latest fax from the DNC and read it on-air as if it were news?
Why is it that CNNABCCBSNBC all seem to have the same talking points?
Turn off the MSNBC and get informed.
Tim L.
3:05 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy Boy, I've already said that I did try to get educated about Faux News and found out that their viewers are the most uniformed viewers of any major news channel. In fact it was found that those who watch no news are more informed than Faux News viewers. So as I have said watching Faux News makes you dumber. I assume you would want to be more informed than less informed right?
Were you part of the study's survey sample? Do you like to dress up as a pirate?
Tom Klimczak
4:17 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Timmy, do you dress like a girl? You sure whine like one.
Gotta give up the MSNBC. Your IQ is getting lower...
Mike Check
9:11 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
The Obama Economy Isn't Working INAUGURATION DAY TODAY CHANGE Unemployed Americans 12.05 million 12.54 million 495,000 Unemployment Rate 7.8% 8.1% 3.8% Long-Term Unemployed 2.7 million 5 million 87% Middle Class Income $54,962 $51,002 $3,960 Gas Prices $1.85 $3.86 107% Home Values $169,700 $151,600 11% Worker Health Insurance Costs $3,354 $4,129 23% College Tuition $6,591 $8,244 25% Americans in Poverty 39.8 million 46.2 million 6.4 million Food Stamp Recipients 32 million 47 million 46% Consumer Price Index 211.1 230.4 9.1% Federal Debt $10.6 trillion $16 trillion 51% Debt per person $34,731 $51,037 $16,306 U.S. Global Competitiveness 1st 7th 6 places
Tom Klimczak
12:29 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
That's hope and change at work.
The economy went on life support the day Barry passed Hillary in the polls. It has not come back.
annivar salgado
9:15 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Romney is a rich republican and Obama is a rich democrat... and that is the only difference between them. The problem with our government has been and is that it is totally controlled by the richest people in the country. For the people, of the people and by the people has become for the rich, of the rich and by the rich. Don't believe it? Try running for a paltry office like Chicago alderman. It used to be that all you had to be was a neighborhood guy with a few good ideas, now you need a minimum of 1-2 million dollars to run and you better be connected to someone already in the system.
We need to wake up and realize that none of these guys gives a damn about we the people. Their days are filled with high powered lunches with the likes of Trump and 40.000 a plate dinners. If Mr. Obama was true to his word that he and people like him, meaning millionaires, don't need tax breaks then whenever he leaves office maybe he should decline the hefty pension he will receive for life for his 4-8 years of service. Four to eight years gets him a lifetime pension and 24 hour security, while 30 years on the job nowadays gets the rest of us a kick in the ass and an escort to the nearest exit.
Erin is right, Romney is not a role model but neither is Obama, Kirk, Durbin, Quinn or any other politician.
What do you call someone who does not have to worry about money, gas, food, education for your kids, retirement or healthcare? A public servant! Go figure.
9:31 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Here here ! This is the best comment yet! THE TRUTH ! Thank Annivar! YEah lets talk about who's living off off someone else.....aren't all the public servants doing that?
9:19 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
What Romney stated is not pollitically correct but I do believe is directionally correct. As a nation and a state we have really lost our way when it comes to reality. As the most generous nation in the world we have continued to give away billions of dollars to help support people here and abroad. In doing this we have developed an entire sector that has become dependent on the handouts. The real tradegy in the current model is, not only have we developed a dependent class of , individuals. The ones that really deserve and need assistance are not getting enough help as the money is wasted on those that are not deserving. The welfare system as we now refer to it was to be a safety net not a carreer opportunity for conyinuing geenerations. A simple case is to look at our Nationa Park System and more specifically Yellowstone Park. Up until the early 60's feeding the animals was considered acceptable until the officials realized the animals had become completley dependent on the tourists handouts for their existance, the health and well being of the animals was not good. When the handouts were stopped the animals over the years have become healthier and self reliant. Give a man a fish he will eat for a day, teach a man to fish he will eat for a life time.
Debbie Scheskie Buchanan
12:30 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Totally agree. Assistance is needed for people living in poverty, however the issue is how that assistance is provided. FDR's WPA helped millions of people during the depression, but people had to WORK for what they got. It was the forerunner of today's welfare programs, which unfortunately does not require people to work. This is bad policy and created generations of people on welfare.
Tom Koz
9:44 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Yesterday I got my Tax Return "Returned"
Yes, the IRS sent my Tax Return back!
I guess it was because of my response to the line, which read: "List All Dependents"
... So, I replied:
12 million illegal immigrants
3 million crack heads
42 million unemployable people on food stamps
2 million people in over 243 prisons and
535 fools in the U.S. House and Senate.
Apparently, this was NOT acceptable..
So I sent it back with a question "Did I forget someone?"
Tim L.
3:38 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Actually not funny at all. pretty stupid in my opinion.
Tom Koz
11:00 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Oh Tim L. It is your opinion that matters to me soooo much!
Tom Klimczak
12:32 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Your response actually (and sadly) fulfills the 'support test' required by IRS regulations, Tom.
Careful, Tim L. might lose composure when faced with this fact.
9:51 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
After Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and 2 wars initiated by Bush, of course we are on track to $16 trillion in debt. Obama was left a mess and is still fixing it. If you think Romney is going to care about the poor, female, elderly, Black or Latino voters, think again - he couldn't have stated it any plainer. The "47%" Romney referred to are not swindlers - they didn't pay FEDERAL income tax because they didn't qualify - they were either retired or poor. Check your facts (FactCheck or PolitiFact). A society should be judged by how it cares for its poor, sick and elderly, so I agree with this columnist. Shame on those in the comments section who are dissing them.
Mike Check
2:56 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
KE- words of advise....stop watching MSNBC. Sounds like you take notes from Chris Mathews. Romney is more compassionate than Obama could ever dream to be. Where did you hear that Romney doesn't care about women, Latinos, Blacks or the poor? This doesn't even make sense. And if he is "still fixing it" I would hate to see what happens by the end of the year. Wake up
Flora Dora
3:20 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Thank you KE. Read my reply to Lori - way back in the beginning of this "conversation".
Tom Klimczak
12:34 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Mmm...boy this Kool Aid tastes great, doesn't it, KE?
Barry put on more debt in four years than the previous administration did in eight.
Anyone want to help Barry out? He invested his Nobel Peace Prize in Solyndra stock and he needs some wealth spread to him.
9:59 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Role Model....
a CEO that closes a company down to locate an associate's daughter and leads a search and rescue that successfully finds her..
a humanitarian that was untold... watch this video....
now tell me that that is not a role model.... the character of a person is many times what is untold and quietly serves humanity when there are no cameras.
There are many more stories of goodness about Mitt Romney we do not know about.
Look at some of the associations of our current president. Bill Ayers, "The Unrepentant Terrorist", Jeremiah Wright, Obama's "Spiritual Mentor", Van Jones. Obama's Green Czar and underground terrorist and communist....
Media can spin anything, but look at what the individual accomplished on his personal life. There are many role models around us.... Politics is tough to find many role models.
10:08 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Let's not forget that this is just a ruse to get our attention focused elsewhere. Did we already forget that an American ambassador and navy seals are dead as well as countless/nameless others? How exactly did that happen? Why didn't the guards have bullets? Did we all read that the blind sheikh is back in the news? Oh yes, we are negotiating with who knows who (or is it whom)? for his release. Did we forget about border patrol agent Brian Terry who was killed in Fast and Furious fiasco?
Where exactly is our President??? Oh yes, he is on Letterman and partying with Jay-Z and Beyonce!
Erin, don't be fooled by the biased liberal media. Dig a little deeper and in non-biased places and you'll find a treasure trove goodies. Also, please watch
http://www.glennbeck.com/2012/09/14/watch-glenn-reveals-the-real-mitt-romney/ and maybe you'll change your mind. Good luck and God Bless America.
Barry Allen
11:48 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
If Beyonce was there, well, I can understand ...
Would you stay in Washington and have to deal with jobless millions, international trade issues, the deficit, the resulting debt, the mid-east on fire, Prime Minister Netanyahoo waiting in your office, ... (and the list goes on) ... when you could go to a party and meet BEYONCE!
Tim L.
3:46 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Love how Sig and Judy direct us to Glenn Beck to tell us how great Romney is. Do the two of you seriously think Glenn Beck is a non-partisan, trusthworthy newsource? If Glenn Beck can't even keep his job at the hyper-partisan, non-truth telling joke that is Fox News do you expect anyone to take him or anything he says seriously. The two of you are so far gone if you think Glenn Beck speaks the truth, keep searching for those "treasure trove of goodies" Judy...LOL.
6:46 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
address the facts... the lame-stream media not doing journalism... then Bob Woodward writes a book spelling out truths... he is vilified...
The point is who is a better role model... I would easily take Romney... Obama being from the Madigan/blago/Dem Chicago machine... um don't think so...
if you wish to dispute anything we or Beck pointed out... please fact check that... otherwise... let's talk facts.
Tim L.
12:32 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Sig, I have fact checked and it is proven by studies that Fox News viewers are the most uniformed and misinformed viewing population for any news channel. So it is proven that watching Fox News makes you stupid. It has also been proven that Fox News has made an art form of lying, that is why Conservatives love the channel so much.
I am not disputing the story about Mittens and milk, I am disputing the source it came from that you have to admit is a complete clown and snake oil salesman. The fact that you and Judy listen to someone who is a complete laughingstock and whom Fox News kicked to the curb shows where you get your fair and balanced news from.
You are so desperate to find some reason to support Romney that you think the fact that he donated milk justifies him to be POTUS is hysterical. There are many, many people who do great deeds during their life, that does not make them qualified to be President. One good deed does not make up for all the skeletons, both known and unknown in Romney's closet. Romney is a gaffe machine. He is bought and paid for by his billion dollar donors. He has put people out of work so that he personally can profit from it, hidden money in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes, and the list goes on and on.
Keep watching your fake Fox News, keep whining about the lame stream media and please, please keep donating to the losing cause which is Romney's campaign.
Flora Dora
3:22 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
And Mitt was down in Boca Raton with his very rich play boy friend and others who despise the working class.
Tom Klimczak
12:36 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tim L. thinks that CNNABCNBCCBSMSNBC are fair and balanced.
Time for a clue, Tim.
Tim L.
3:06 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Time for more hard hitting pirate stories on Faux News Tommy Boy.
Tom Klimczak
4:18 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Time for another Romney hit piece on CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC, Timmy.
Tim L.
11:21 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy the Pirate, try tearing yourself away from fair and balanced Faux News for a minute and watch CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBCTOMKISREALLYDUMB for a minute to learn what ethical reporting looks like.
Tom Klimczak
12:06 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Ethical reporting...from a completely agendaless and objective reporter like Dan Rather I suppose.
Timmy, time you left the nest. your parents need the basement for storage...or and S&M dungeon...in any case, it's time from you to go earn a living. C'mon Timmy.
10:12 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Just when I was starting to lose faith that people in this country would agree with the type of nonsense Erin wrote here, I am picked back up by people that are intelligent, have common sense, can read between the lines and know when something is completely taken out of context. Thank you Lori, Common Sense, Tom Koz, Tawny and others.
11:10 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
You're an extreme minority relying on confirmation bias. Your failure to see how badly this "gaffe" of Romney's alienates even more voters is indicative of the disconnect that many current "conservatives" suffer from. Seriously, a half a dozen clueless comments on the Patch is not a voting block. You have to win in order to serve.
12:06 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Yes! And don't ever let those facts get in the way of your opinions!
Tom Klimczak
12:39 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
The recent rash of news reporting from the 'completely unbiased and serving their intelligent and informed audience' media show that the DNC does not actually like their chances in November. Over sampled democrats in polling data might fool the general public, but even Barry's people are worried.
Tim L.
3:09 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy Boy, can you provide the source for this "DNC does not actually like their chances in November. Over sampled democrats in polling data might fool the general public..."? Did you make this up or did this come from Faux News (same thing I guess)
Tim L.
11:25 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Pirate Boy, your running away from answering this question too?
Tom Klimczak
12:11 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Timmy, you are running away from admitting that Barry's the most unqualified occupant of the oval office in history. Obama's lack of accomplishments since taking office (other than those who now engender much of the animus against him) should come as no surprise. He had nothing to put on his resume before then, and he has little now.
If Barry's handlers were so confident of victory, as you are, there would be no need for the coordinated media-DNC effort to tear down Romney.
Tom Klimczak
12:14 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Oh yeah...this isn't about Fox News, Timmy. It's about a vision for America. we've seen Barry's: destruction of the private sector and any institution that once made America great and substitute an all-powerful government.
Timmy likes this, since he's never been able to comprehend just how business works. He just collects his goverment check and a few bucks from the parental units and hangs out at Starbucks, complaining about how unfair the world is.
Yup. Life's unfair. Timmy. Get a helmet.
Debbie Scheskie Buchanan
11:24 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Romney was talking about not worrying about trying to get their votes because they will never vote for him. He was not saying we should not worry about poor people as individuals. Did you not hear his entire speech or are you deliberately quoting a sound bite for the purpose of misinterpreting it?
Tom Koz
11:26 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Steven, WE are the Majority. The T.E.A. Party is on the rise. We will no longer be silent. We Will return this Country to its Christian Conservative Constitutional principles!!!
12:05 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
More, blah, blah, blah Christian Conservative claptrap. We didn't form this nation on the notion of "Freedom Of Religion" it was "Freedom From Religion". As far as the tea party, just a lot of slogans and non-understanding of how Government works.
Alisha Ripley
1:42 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
You say that we should return this country to a Christian Conservative Constitutional principles but GOD represents freedom, giving people the choice to live their lives as they see fit. And this attitude that America has about just worrying about ourself is not anything of GOD as Christians we are called to feed people where they need feed, we are called to clothed people, who need clothed, and we are called to make more disciples for his kingdom, worrying about self is not anything of GOD. I am so scared for us because of so called Christians this is why we are in the position that we are in, who are you to judge.
Tim L.
12:43 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Koz, you are completely wrong as always. The majority of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party and people who identified themselves as active tea party members has dropped over the last two years. if you are the majority why do tea party supported candidates keep losing elections?
I agree with you stop being silent. Watch this clip from one of the tea party leaders that shows how well thought out and intelligent the tea party arguments are.
Wow is that embarrassing. She literally has nothing to back up her talking points. She spews the same old tired Tea Party lines and when she is asked to back up her claims she has nothing. She comes across a lot like you!
Tom Klimczak
12:43 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
The TEA Party has really one plank: Get the government spending under control and force it to live within its means. Period. That is their mission. There is no other plank in their platform.
Now, if you ask the general public (folks like Tim L.) what the TEA Party's mission is, they will answer that it's racism, homophobia, class elitist, etc.,...
The 'unbiased' alphabet soup media has basically read the DNC talking points on the group so much that the propaganda has firmly taken hold.
Mission accomplished indeed.
my opinion
1:53 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Sue, please get a clue. Mormons are christians! They believe in Jesus Christ which makes them CHRISTIANS........
The definition of a Christian is?????????
A person who has received Christian baptism or is a BELIEVER IN JESUS CHRIST and his teachings.
Jews are not christians, Muslims are not christians, Buddists are not christians, and atheists are not a christians.
Tim L.
3:12 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
But Tommy Boy, what about all the racist, homophobic, elitist signs at Tea Party events? You need links to see the pictures? Let me guess, astroturfing right?
Tom Klimczak
4:20 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
There has not been one documented sign at these rallies that was in any way endorsed by any TEA Party member. The reports fail to note that any idiot bearing such was immediately escorted from the event.
But, CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC didn't tell you that, did it, Timmy?
4:32 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Well you can never trust what is posted by Fox news. You can never tell if what they are using is actually real footage:
Tom Klimczak
4:35 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Ah...using a left wing nutjob website to make a point.
You guys need to get date or something. May be see a band play. No...not RATM. lolz
4:47 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Hey Tommy, better run along and tell your mom they lowered prices on baby food at the Jewel. You might have enough money to get a couple of jars for dinner.
Tom Klimczak
5:02 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
You're funny, Logansdad. Isn't your government check waiting in you mailbox?
Best get it in the bank so you can write a donation check to re-elect The One.
You can spend the rest on Hopium. It's ok. Logan can feed himself, can't he?
Tim L.
11:28 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy Boy, you're lying again...
Lots of proud tea partiers holding these signs at tea party events. Racism 101 brought to you by the Tea Party...
Tom Klimczak
12:53 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
I can use Photoshop too, Timmy.
For those whose IQ has not fallen to room temperature due to indoctrination by left wing media, The TEA Party has ONE PLANK in their platform. Just one: Get government spending in line with revenues. That's it.
Those whose livelihood depend on continued government spending regardless of income needed to discredit this simple platform. Since they can't win in the marketplace of ideas by advocating their position directly, they need to manufacture racism or otherwise distract from their unsustainable position.
That's it, folks. TEA Party is simply for putting the brakes on government spending.
Tim L.
12:29 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Tommy the Pirate, who and when were you made Grand Wizard of the Tea Party? When did the Koch Bros hand over the keys to you?
I am confused because I thought the Tea Party was a bunch of different grass roots organizations, nothing done or coordinated at the National level. Has this now changed and are you now coordinating all of their efforts? Are you the Grand Pooh Bah of their "plank". Do you wear your pirate hat at their meetings?
In terms of photoshopping that is a good one, wrong but still good. You want live video? Let me know if you want more of these examples of their racism. There is some awesome stuff from many of these groups's individual websites, if you want to see them just let me know.
1:27 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Tommy Boy, I don't collect anything from the government so unlike you I am not waiting for any government checks to arrive in my mailbox.
Yes Logan can take care of himself, the question is will you be able to take care of yourself?
Debbie Scheskie Buchanan
11:27 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
It frustrates me when people from either political party use a small sound bite that can be twisted to say something other than what was intended. Let's stick to honesty and try to genuinely understand the candidates and the issues instead of the clever misrepresentations that are being flung around in this campaign. This applies to both parties. That kind of stunt is not what people should use to make a voting decision!
11:44 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
If he hadn't doubled down the next day it would have been a "small sound bite", but he dove right in and denigrated a large portion of the people that he needs to win the Presidency.
11:58 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
I agree Debbie. Everyone, especially Olddeegee needs to educate themselves on what is really happening. Start by seeing the 2016 movie. I think many people would be amazed (and scared out of their mind) at Obama has been doing. http://2016themovie.com/
Tom Klimczak
12:46 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Let's see...Oldgeegee uses a liberal's take on the film to discredit a film that dares to do what the press should have done in 2008...nice.
11:56 am on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Here's an article from a Bush campaign adviser. Hate Bush or love him, his campaign won the Presidency, his team knew how to get a majority (or close enough). Romney reminds me of a team that has won their division but totally forgot about having to play the championship to win the series. As a student of Presidential elections since 1964 and a voter since 1974, I've never seen anybody drop so many balls and stay in the race.
12:29 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
We're doomed no matter who gets in. Let's face it people. We need to learn from the history. Forget all this fancy tech, meals in boxes because people are too busy to get it right, one domino after another, for any subject involving living the life. This country is power hungry, money hungry, the sad part of it all is we can't even afford to take care of our own for the simple fact that we allow every other country to come here, not just visit and learn, but to move right in and take up shop. It seems to be a free country for all but the very people who fought so hard for the free america.. History people.
Dan F.
12:54 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
With 20 years as a professional journalist you can no longer stay silent, and so must belch up rote talking points of TPM and dKos. Got it.
Just for the record, that golden stream coming from the on-high Chicago political machine? Is not nectar...
1:53 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
well said Erin , pay no attention to the "teanutgallery" !
Julie J
1:57 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Political party aside, this man is an arrogant @ss who has absolutely NO PLACE running our country. This is not a Country Club - actual WORK has to be done. I will admit that the welfare system needs reform, but so does every other system the government controls.
Gov. Romney is clearly a bigot, a misogynist, religious fanatic (where is the separation of church and state, people?), he acts as if he is superior to the other 53% of us NOT in his corner, his policies are unconstitutional, he is COMPLETELY out of touch with how you and I live day to day to put food on our tables and meet our monetary obligations (do you really think he knows what a mortgage is?). He IS big business. His ideals do not mesh with those of the common person (aka the remaining 53%). NOT a role model. He would step on each and every one of us to personally benefit. THAT is not what I want to teach my son. I prefer to teach my son to respect others, help others, and not to judge others. You don't know until you walk in someone else's shoes. THIS MAN HAS NOT WALKED IN MY SHOES.
Obama is not perfect. But ask yourself this: Are you better off today than you were 4 years ago? I know I sure as heck am. My husband (unemployed 4 years ago) was able to start up a business that is thriving, and not due to any help from the government. ON HIS OWN.
Romney as a role model? NO WAY.
2:48 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
I am happy yhat Julie is better off, she is in the 10%. I am in the 90%. I lost my job 2 years ago, my brother and best friend lost theirs last year. Our national debt has risen TRILLIONS, the only jobs created were in the bloated government. In 2006 we had 143.6 million employed, and even with the huge illegal gain and population growth we only have 143.2M employed. Gas has doubled, my house lost $100k. Obama did not close Gitmo, did not get unemployment down, did not get us out of the wars. NO campaign promises were kept.
Julie J
3:51 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
@train17 - You kind of are talking out of both sides of your mouth. Gas HAS doubled. You can thank the OIL COMPANIES for that. Every quarter they seem to boast "record profits." Last time I checked the oil companies are PRIVATELY owned - not government owned. And 2006 is irrelevant. Employment in 2006 wasn't what Obama inherited. In January 2009 he inherited the highest unemployment rate in 14 years. See this link:
My house depreciated that much as well. Again, that has nothing to do with Obama. That is the banks' fault. They overstretch EVERYONE. I'm under water too. Join the club.
Why hasn't Obama gotten anything accomplished that he promised? Simple Answer: John Boehner and his Republican House. The current House stops everything they can.
I am sorry you lost your job. I am sorry for everyone who loses their job. It is tough. It sucks. Been there. Done that.
Look at where we were in November 2008. Look at where we are now. We are slowly climbing back up. We need to see the forest thru the trees.
Walt Hines
5:16 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Julie J you nailed it on the head. Romney is a joke! He's controlled by the Koch brothers and Baine boys. He's one flip short of a happy meal. He'll sell this country to the highest bidder, China perhaps. He wants to be POTUS yet he won't pay his fair share of taxes, tax dogger. Show those tax returns big man and show what kind of a person you really are. What's he's afraid of?
Clinton left and we were in the black, 8 yrs later Bush leaves and we're in the hole!
Train17 I lost my job because of Romney and now I work 3 and still not making what I did with my one. I surely wasn't part of the middle class that Romney refers to ($200,000.-$250.000) but I paid my taxes and left my money here in this country!!! Good Luck finding work, keep the faith!
darnell roberts
3:09 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
hes a total ass maybe if one parent was black and the other latino i would vote for him...naaaah, no i wouldnt. instead of being a white ass he would be a biracial one. color doesnt define the individual, character does.
3:38 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
@Julie J, Just so you know, your husbands business that is thriving.
Your husband didn't build that.
4:28 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
No matter what you think of Obama, you must agree he has been the most divisive president in decades. Win at all cost Chicago politics.
Tim L.
12:52 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Blame the Republicants, birthers, tea party nutjobs and Fox News lemmings for the divisiveness seen in the Country. Bunch of adults acting like grade school kids who cry and whine because the President is not a Republican. Never saw Democrats pull this level of crap when Bush was in office. People are literally running from the Conservative movement because it has become such a joke.
7:28 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Tim L is right.
Maybe Guantanamo should be kept open just to house the likes of Eric Cantor and Mitch McConnell.
Tom Klimczak
12:54 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
More wisdon from Tim L.:
"Blame the Republicants, birthers, tea party nutjobs and Fox News lemmings for the divisiveness seen in the Country."
The above shows just how effective the coordinated campaign between the 'unbiased and intelligent' media and the DNC-Obama white house has been.
According to loony, programmed lemming liberals like Tim, Obama has no responsibility at all. This Cook County Chicago machine politician who rammed through his big government massive regulation and taxation agenda for two years with filibuster-proof control of both houses of congress has nothing to do with the repudiation his party suffered in 2010. Nothing at all people.
His policies of print money and spend created the TEA Party, whose sole mission is getting government spending under control.
12:59 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
"This Cook County Chicago machine politician who rammed through his big government massive regulation and taxation agenda for two years with filibuster-proof control of both houses of congress has nothing to do with the repudiation his party suffered in 2010. "
Obama did not have a fillibuster proof majority for two years. It was roughly two months:
Tom Klimczak
2:35 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Ok, Logansdad.
Barry's fellow travellers had majorities in both houses for two years.
I did build that!
4:54 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Then does this mean that you believe Obama is a good role model?
Tom Klimczak
12:55 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
He's a role model for those who want to run the country as efficiently and effectively as Chicago, Cook County, and the State of Illinois.
Tim L., for instance.
8:28 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Erin, you should not have broken your rule and written about politics. The mistake you made is that you did not do your homework and listen/watch the full video because if you had, I believe you would have been intelligent enough and honest enough to realize that your analysis has little to do with Gov. Romney's answer to the question posed on the video. If you did watch the video in in its entirety, then my aforementioned beliefs about you are woefully misplaced. The irony of your diatribe is that you claim to possess the value of "personal responsibility" which presumably makes you a good role model for your children, and this value of personal responsibility is exactly what Gov. Romney represents and promotes as a candidate, yet you want to dismiss him in my opinion either out of ignorance of what he said or out of an inexplicable form of nihilism that seems to have stricken a portion of our society that claims "personal responsibility" as a fundamental principle for living their lives. In short, you have attacked the candidate that shares your values and is honest enough to state that there will be members of the electorate that won't vote for him because they don't share those values. Before you break your rule again, I would respectfully suggest you take some refresher courses in civics, political science, and logic.
kitty Kat
8:36 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
President Obama didn't cause this mess bush did, and for you racist people we are all God's children if we get cut the blood is still red. We suppose to help and heal each other. We need a President who is for everyone and not just rich people, Obama has my vote
Tom Klimczak
12:58 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
It's not Barrys' fault.
Obama has been in power for nearly four years, people. In complete control for his first two years, hence ObamaCare, banning of light bulbs, heavy coal electricity regulations, etc.,...
Was the same deflection of responsibility accorded GW Bush in 2004? Answer true, liberals.
9:42 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Its time you realize that its not Bushs fault. Obama has had his time to fix what he said is wrong and all he did was talk. He has made things worse. Obama had divided the nation even more. Obamas fund raisers are attended by the rich. Obama is for the rich. Obama is NOT for everyone.
Hank Olenick
10:34 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
George W. Bush was the absolute worst president EVER and Romney will be just as bad. He, like Bush is a buffoon.
Diablo R
11:12 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Hank, please stop parroting Chris Matthews and site examples. That way we can discuss and debate and not sound like kids.
Hank Olenick
7:50 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
I'm not parroting anyone , I'm speaking my mind. Who is Chris Matthews?
Tom Klimczak
12:59 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Naah. Hank's a Keith (did I really get fired from MSLSD?) Olbermann guy.
my opinion
4:01 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Hank how old are you. The worst president (up til now) was Jimmy Carter. He was a smart man just didn't have the skill set to run the country.
Remember 16% mortgage rates, 10% + unemployment, inflation, stagflation
4:14 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Kerry who are you fooling. Obama is for the rich...that is a good laugh. Do you think Romney is not.
The country is in no worse shape than when Bush left office.
Tom Klimczak
4:38 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
From a regulatory and taxation sense, it is actually worse. That is what is the hidden foot on the brake pedal preventing the economy from expanding.
If you own a business and employ people, you understand this. If you're like Tim L., and get a government check every two weeks, you don't.
Hank Olenick
8:49 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
my opinion, too scared to write his name, Carter was bad at the Presidency agree , he was too kind and honest. I'm old enough to have bought my first home at 18.25% under the Reagan regime.
Tom Klimczak
8:57 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Actually, interest rates finally started to decline once Reagan took office.
Carter was possibly the worst President ever. His cozying up to the world's dictators, oppressors (folks in the US have no idea what repression is), and enemies of the US is borderline treasonous.
Tim L.
11:33 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tommy the Pirate, only government assistance I have ever received have been student loans that I have paid back in full. I have a sneaking suspicion that you can't say the same can you mr. hustler (btw I don't think seasonal lemonade stands count as owning your own business).
Tom Klimczak
12:59 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Timmy, all you have is name calling and character assassination. This is out of the Rules for Radicals playbook that you no doubt have an autographed copy of.
Come back when you have a real argument.
Jen K
10:05 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Obama has not done a good job. The middle east is burning, Iran is unchecked, the country is divided, we have lost billions of tax payer's money from giveaways to his corporate cronies ( Solindra), unemployment has been above 8% for years, we have a record number of people on food stamps and disability. The national debt is now 16 trillion. What Romney referred to is that despite such a poor performance 47 % of the citizens would still vote for Obama. Many people who support an individual with that kind of track record obviously are not supporting him because of his accomplishments but rather because they are benefiting from his policies and programs or they have such a visceral dislike of Romney they would never give him a chance. Romney is probably frustrated and realizes no matter what he said or did he will not change the minds of the 47%. I am sure once Romney is elected he as well as those of us who have been pulling the wagon all our lives will continue to do so.
7:31 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Jeez, if you're going to blame Obama for the debt you might as well give him credit for capturing Sadaam Hussein.
Tom Klimczak
1:00 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Barry accumulated more debt in four years (less than four years, actually), than the previous administration did in eight.
Diablo R
11:10 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
If you look deep down at what is going on here, it's the same old Lib machine trying to start crap where there isn't any. Romney is one of the most honest, moral and nicest guys to ever run for POTUS and this is the best the left can come up with...that he said something that he is standing behind? There is no controversy here. Just like when they tried to say he cut some kids hair...which the "victim's" family said it never happened. Or when he painstakingly built a wind resistant, comfy travel case by hand for his family dog to take on vacation instead of throwing it in a kennel, and he get grief for that but Obama EATS a couple of dogs and it's fine. I don't know why people are so hell bent on defending "Rare I come to an event where I'm like the 5th or 6th most interesting person." He had his 4 years and he didn't do it. Don't confuse Obama the man with Obama the POTUS. They are two different people.
Tom Koz
11:10 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
THE ANT AND THE GRASSHOPPER Two Different Versions…. Two Different Morals
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.
MORAL OF THE STORY: Be responsible for yourself!
The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving.
CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food.
America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.'
Tom Koz
11:13 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Continued: ACORN stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, We shall overcome. Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake.
President Obama condemns the ant and blames President Bush, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and the Pope for the grasshopper's plight.
Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Grasshopper Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.
Andy Stern and SEIU SUE the Ant, and with the support of Eric Holder Set a Court date for The ant and He is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of SEIU UNION GREEN BUGS and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government Green Czar and given to the grasshopper.
The story ends as we see the grasshopper and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ants food while the government house he is in, which, as you recall, just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around them because the grasshopper doesn't maintain it.
The ant has disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again.
7:37 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Thanks, Tom - for implying that anyone who worked his butt off and then lost a job and had financial resources depleted and needed some assistance in a tough job market is just a lazy, foolish grasshopper.
"If you're not rich, you must have been lazy" - just go with that slogan, Mitt!
Tom Klimczak
8:31 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Let's get America working again by removing the greatest impediment to economic growth in the US today: Barack Hussein Soetero Obama and all his so-called intellectuals and their anti-business pro-regulatory policies.
Tim L.
11:40 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Here, here Tommy Boy, deregulation really helped Lehman Brothers didn't it? What we need is less regulation so that firms like Countrywide can give out more and much higher risk predatory home loans because it is those loans that will get us out of the housing crisis.
Tom Klimczak
12:43 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Of course, it isn't the borrower's fault for taking on too much debt. Naah. Evil, predatory lenders are to blame. The bankers lied and cheated as people financed their McMansions. That's why all those homes were repo'd, it was all a plot by the banks. Right, Timmy. Right out of the MSNBC playbook.
Actually is was the collapse of the high risk loan market called credit default swaps that imploded credit back in 2008. We needed leadership to head that off. Chris Dodd and Barney Frank insisted that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were just fine, right up until they went off the cliff.
Also, the so-called predatory loans are a Clinton legacy, where banks were required to lend a certain percentage to 'targeted groups' in order to have a seat at the federal table. These targeted borrowers had less than great credit, so they defaulted in greater numbers.
Tom Koz
11:14 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Continued: The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders From MEXICALIFORNIA who terrorize the ramshackle, once prosperous and once peaceful, neighborhood. Van Jones Protest's, Demanding More Reparations for those they just released from Prison and President Obama, gives in and Gives them their JUST Redistribution for Reparations of Cruelty to Spiders. Slug's, Wasp's and Cockroaches Commence Putting pressure to Sue for Equal Protection Under the Law on Eric Holder with the help of the ACLU!
The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest of the free world with it.
MORAL OF THE STORY: Be careful how you vote in 2012
I've sent this to you because I believe that you are an ant not a grasshopper!
Make sure that you pass this on to other ants. Dont bother sending it on to any grasshoppers because they wouldn't understand it, anyway.
"Democracy" is when two wolves and a lamb discuss dinner plans.
"Liberty" is when a well armed lamb contests the vote." Benjamin Franklin – 1759
Tim L.
12:54 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Epic delusional rant from Koz. You are absolutely losing it Koz / grasshopper!
Diablo R
11:14 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Can I write for the Patch? Obviously they are hurting for stories. If it helps, I'll sensationalize and distort.
Tom Koz
11:44 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
The Federal Government, or State/Local government for that matter, CANNOT give anything to anybody that it does NOT - with the threat of imprisonment - take from somebody else. As a small business owner, I can tell you that higher taxes do NOT stimulate me to invest more to expand my business, hire additional employees, or provide better benefits/higher wages to my existing employees. In fact – just the opposite is true. I understand the need to "help" those less fortunate – I contribute to various charities. If you and/or others feel such a morale obligation to give more to the less fortunate (less motivated) by all means feel free to donate more of YOUR own money – don't take mine! If you believe taxes for those in your tax bracket should be higher – donate! ANY Federal Government spending outside of the 18 enumerated powers as outlined in the Constitution is not only WRONG and unconstitutional, it is theft and slavery. It makes individuals a slave to the Federal government.
Everybody has Rights. The Right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. You do NOT have the Right to somebody else paying for your Food, Housing, Clothing, Shoes, Cell phone, TV, etc. ..etc... etc..!
And NO you do NOT have the Right to Health Care! If you believe you have the Right to health care you would have to believe that you have the RIGHT to make a doctor/nurse/pharmaceutical company to GIVE you their services for free! Making somebody work for you for free is SLAVERY
4:24 pm on Thursday, September 20, 2012
Some people just can't handle the TRUTH!
So, they have to distort the facts.
And then they call people racist for the voting for Obama.
Got to love the ignorance in people.
Tom Koz
12:26 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Moe, they just don't get it.
1st, The Constitution says Promote the general welfare NOT PROVIDE the general welfare!! 2nd, this Country is over $16 Trillion in DEBT. Don't they get it??
I wonder how they feel about passing all of that debt onto their kids, grand kids and great grand kids? They didn't ask for it and have absolutely no say in it?? Is THAT fair??
And they need to stop with all this "fair share" crap all ready. The top 10% of wage earners pay well over 70% of all the federal income tax. The bottom 47% pay NO federal income taxes. Sound fair to you??
Also, MOST of these federal do/feel good programs were not even around 60-70 years ago. Tell me how in the heck this country and all of the people survived without them?? It is scary that many people have NO Clue. The federal government has run amok and is out of control.
12:47 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Not fair at all. It's nice to see you agree that churches should be paying more income taxes too.
I'm betting you have a different 'group' you are talking about though, don't you.
William R Hall
7:40 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tim L sure has a lot to say without really saying anything at all. Well, other than insulting anyone who isn't a bleeding heart and tossing out hackneyed, simple-minded talking points. Ah, Democrats...the party of tolerance. Must be a politician.
Pro Life Crusader +
8:54 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
This article is nothing more than typical liberial crap, just like all news papers are!!
Tom Klimczak
1:03 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Now...why are they losing readers again?
Must be that nasty internet, it can't be their bias! They aren't biased. Right, Tim?
John Tips
9:58 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Both the Democratic and Republican parties are to blame for the state of the union! This president does have some good ideas, but was handed a crop of $h*t when he took office. Everyone able to THINK - knows this well!
Under George Bush the Federal Government failed us, and brought us almost to financial ruin by NOT fully engaging in its financial institutional oversight! Combine this with the bank failures and securities fraud as with Barnard Madoff's 65 Billion Dollar fiasco,and you have a country about to fail!
Mr. Romney preaches the same Ole story we heard from my Republican Party, who has not as of yet learned that Roe v. Wade is a dead issue with most younger women who have not been brainwashed by religious beliefs. Religion today has no room in modern day politics! Big business too has failed the American people, and so has both parties politics rhetoric!
Pro Life Crusader +
10:29 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
It's better that Romney is elected as a mormon President than Obama as a socialist muslim President.
Bob B
10:59 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
You may have changed your sign on name here but you still espouse the same garbage.
Pro Life Crusader +
11:26 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
Bob B how is my comment garbage! It's truth and you are garbage my friend! Throw yourself out!
Bob B
11:50 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
The President is NOT a muslim. Opinions are one thing, but stop distorting facts.
Tom Klimczak
8:18 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Nope. Having absolutely no faith in the American people to do the right thing, Barry is an agnostic devotee of the power of big government.
He views himself as a sort of benevolent earthbound deity, bestowing his blessings on those who offer tribute. It's the Chicago Way gone national.
Solyndra? Ahhhhhhmennnnnnnnn.
11:38 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
I haven't read all the comments, but I have to ask how many of you are better off than you were four years ago? I'm middle class and taxes have risen and will continue to rise (anyone own stock? Your capital gains tax and dividends tax will rise-in addition to a host of other taxes-come January), Every single thing I need to buy has increased in price. Unemployment is still above 8%. The debt is ASTRONOMICAL. Oh, and Libya was quiet for 25 years after Reagan bombed them. NOW they're back? We look weak because our President IS weak. Although, every single thing he's doing is for a purpose. And as to the SOCIALISM remarks, there's the government takeover of GM and healthcare, and their intention is to also nationalize the banks. I'm a conservative with a libertarian streak. The government can stick to borders and wars and I'll take care of the rest.
11:58 am on Friday, September 21, 2012
I am doing about the same as I was 4 years ago.
Everything you need to buy has increased - is that due to the fact that gasoline has increased? As you may know the president does not control the price of gasoline.
"Oh, and Libya was quiet for 25 years after Reagan bombed them. NOW they're back?" So you think a country should just stay the same after 25 years?
"We look weak because our President IS weak" - Really which president put an end to Bin Laden - it was the one you referred to as weak. The United States is more liked under Obama than it was during the Bush era.
1:07 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
I'm much better off than I was 4 years ago.
I'm making 40% more than I was 4 years ago.
Bob B
1:22 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Let me guess; you got that from Fox News? Unreal.
2:02 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Bob B ,let me guess, you did not do your homework. During the 2008 campaign, he admitted it in an interview. It was all over the news. You need to check speeches he has given on the topic.
Bob B
2:32 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
You are so wrong it is laughable. Check out your supposed facts on factcheck.org, instead of relying on ridiculous emails and rumors. Your ignorance on this matter pretty well eliminates you from any meaningful and intelligent discussion. You do, however, share something with Vera. You two should get together and spew your lies and hatred all you want to each other. Birds of a feather.
2:46 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Bob b. You are so uninformed that its beyond belief. Sept 9 , 2008 television interview with George Stephanopolous . Obama slips and mentions his Muslim faith. Need me to do all you research for you?
Bob B
4:34 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
One final time; can you please stop spouting right wing propaganda? Here is the TRUE information from fact check, which is an independent site:
And the headline for the article is as follows:
Truth on the Cutting Room Floor
A YouTube video edits Obama's words to create a false impression.
Now go turn on Fox News and revel in the ongoing idiocy.
5:18 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Bob b , You need a reality check. its a shame you are not informed of FACTS . You need to stop listening to the liberal media and form your own opinions. One final time ,can YOU stop the left wing propaganda and lies?
Bob B
5:36 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Gosh Kerry, if there was only some place where one could check on facts. Oh yeah, there is; FACTCHECK.ORG! Facts, not opinions, not left wing or right wing; FACTS. Sorry but true facts beat your sorry excuse for edited garbage.
Tom Klimczak
12:36 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Edited garbage is CNNCBSNBCABCMSNBC's bread and butter.
What's the fequency, Dan?
Gale Bakalik
12:06 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Then why was our embassy's raided? Why were the people burning pictures of Obama and our flag? Was it the film Obama said than changed his mind, or was it more than that?
12:51 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
The attacks happend on 9/11. From what I heard it, the attacks were terrorism. Do you believe terrorists need a reason to do what they do? On 9/11/01, most middle eastern countries were burning the American flag and pictures of Bush when they learned planes flew in to the buildings. Do you honest think those in the middle east care who is the president, they will continue to hate American no matter who is in charge.
Tom Klimczak
2:38 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Have to agree with Logansdad. They hate America. Be it Barry or Romney in charge, it will not matter.
Barry did say he would calm the anti-American storm, didn't he?
Hope and Change again *sigh*
2:47 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Do you really think Romney will do a better job when in comes to foreign affairs?
He spent one week in Europe and managed to tick off the British, the Poles and the Palestinians.
The world has a more favorable view of America with Obama in charge than it did during the Bush years.
Tom Klimczak
4:27 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Barry said he would make the seas recede and calm the Muslin world.
Damn...the hopium buzz wore off.
Hank Olenick
12:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
As an atheist i see religion as being a detriment to running the country not an asset. If you want religion in your leadership move to Iran. The evangelicals are nut jobs as are the Muslim extremists. The Catholic cult is lousy with pedophiles , while the pope sits on a golden throne as the world starves. TAX these antiquated , fear based cults. They ALL have been handed a license to steal. Don't give me any of that crap about all their good deeds. As a child my family lost literally everything we owned in a flood and when my mother went to the so called "Catholic Charities" after stuffing their baskets with cash for 25 years , they gave us nothing!
Flora Dora
1:24 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
I agree with you, Hank. and with Christopher Hitchins "Religion poisons the world".
2:18 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
I can't help but laughing at Vera.
Is she aware that a bunch of atheists created the internet she is using right now?
Im an atheist as well, and probably donate more to charity than most 'religious' people earn. I wouldn't be surprised if most of my financial help goes to those who still believe in sky fairies.
Tom Klimczak
2:45 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
It's time that Atheism be granted the same status as all other religions.
Atheism, like all religions, is a belief system and is as worthwhile or worthless as any of them. You can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God, nor can one seriously question another American's religious practices or non-practices.
Granting favors to any religion is anathema to those who do not subscribe to that particular faith. This has been repeatedly tested in the courts and the decisions nearly always favor one belief system at the expense and pain of all others.
It's time that the government stop establishing and supporting the religion of Atheism.
2:56 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Atheism is a belief system, in the same way that not playing golf is a sport.
Tom Klimczak
4:23 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Sorry, pal. Atheism is objectively no more valid than any other religion.
It's time to for the courts to stop establishing Atheism as first among all religions.
4:44 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Right, all those atheists that pay $0 in income taxes, are being 'favored' over other religions who have to pay federal income taxes...
Wait, no. That's actually not true anywhere, is it Tom?
Do you want atheists to pay $0 in taxes, or do you want other religions to pay >$0 in taxes? Take your pick, and I will fully support whichever one as long as they are equal in treatment.
Tom Klimczak
5:05 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
I actually agree with that. Tax 'em. Provided that Athiests and Deity Chasers get to deduct all other charitable giving.
Hank Olenick
12:11 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012
Atheism is not a religion....if it were I would not have to pay taxes.
Tom Klimczak
3:42 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Sorry, Hank. Atheism is objectively no more valid a belief system and way of being than Catholicism, Protestantism, Buddhism, and the rest.
It's just another '-ism', except that this 'ism' has state sanction and establishment.
12:37 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
I do not understand all the hoopla over Romney's 47% comment because he was just stating a fact that those people will most likely not vote for him. In his first election, people believed the hype that Obama was going to turn this country around, create new jobs, blah blah blah. He has been all talk, no action. It is time for some fresh ideas in the White House and Obama's supporters know he has not turned this country around so it is understandable that they make a big deal over nothing.
12:52 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Hey Tim L. You sure have a lot of time on your hands to comment so much. Some of work and came spend all day here. I guess you are part of the 47%. By the way, your 10,000 bet is a sure loser
Tom Klimczak
2:47 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Hey. Stop that. Tim's government check went up 40% in the last four years. He's better off, so we all need to sit down and shut up like good conservatives.
Tim L.
12:13 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Bob, what does "Some of work and came spend all day here" mean?
Let me know where you want to meet to make the bet, I'm game on the $10,000 bet. If you are willing to bet your retirement on Mittens, let's do this.
Patrick Henry
1:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Get over yourself lady. It was at a fund raiser, stated within the context of obtaining votes. Never meant he doesn't care about that portion of the voting populous. Do you really believe that is what he meant? Do you also believe in the nonexistant "war on woman"? Furthermore, Romney is correct, although the number was probably high. Additionally, do you tout Obama as a role model? Maybe for budding revolutionaries, but not Americans!
Oswego Resident
1:57 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Patrick Henry, At least the author has the courage to put her name on her work and not hide behind a non de plume in the public domain. Why not live up to the great Henry name and fight for your rights and freedoms?
William R Hall
2:19 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
@ Oswego Resident. Your comment is so ironic, it's hilarious.
Tom Klimczak
2:51 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Romney donated $4,020,772 to charity in 2011.
Obviously not a role model at all.
2:57 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Money that he couldnt get into offshore accounts fast enough or was it money donated just to reduce his tax liability?
Tom Klimczak
4:24 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Nice try.
You wish you had money in offshore accounts.
4:44 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Nice try is right Tommy. Is that the best you can do?
You are worried about me having offshore accounts. Well I would classify the spare change that was tossed in your cup today out on the street corner as your savings account.
Tom Klimczak
5:06 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Actually I own a business and have to meet a payroll. I have to hustle for every dollar I get.
How about you? Pole dancing? Community organizing? Tax preparation?...or perhaps something productive.
11:09 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Tom ,dont forget that business you own? You didn't build that.
Tom Klimczak
12:35 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Right you are, Kerry.
The government did it all and simply handed me the golden key.
My business, like all businesses, is just a place for Timmy and others of his ilk to siphon off their subsistence.
1:32 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Tommy boy: "I have to hustle for every dollar I get."
So now we know what kind of business you are actually running. No wonder why you are having a tough time making ends meet. Maybe it is time you learn something knew. Since you mentioned Pole Dancing..it would seem as if you have tried it before. How did it work out for you?
Jeff Dekker
3:41 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
I agree with Tim L. Lets no longer support the Plainfield Patch with their liberal bias. I am reading these post and realize that 90% of them are disgusted by this article. Lets make a stand and get the 90% of readers to no longer support this publication. You with me?
Tom Klimczak
4:26 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Naah. You gotta keep an eye on these liberals.
Take yer eye off 'em and next thing you know they'll be handing out medical marijuana while punishing cigarette smokers and banning light bulbs...
5:58 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
He is everything that is wrong with America today........Vote all Democratic ticket....
Pro Union/Pro Abortion/Pro Health care for all/Anti-War Tea baggers suck..........
Tom Klimczak
8:26 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
That's right. Everything right now, regardless of the consequences, the cost, or who has to pay for it!
Make the minimum wage $55.00 an hour and don't even try and raise your prices to cover the costs Mr. Businessman, you got into business solely to pay your employees, not for evil profits.
Pro Union - Agreed, in private industry but not in government. Not Ever.
Pro Abortion - Hey, you wanna kill your own kid, that's on your conscience. Don't expect me to pay for it though, as it will be on your wallet as well.
Pro Health Care - Rationed care is coming, as the costs associated with Obamacare have already exceeded what the intellectual glitterati thought they would be. The only way to cut costs is to cut care. McCain was right. Sadly.
Tim L.
12:01 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Tommy the Pirate, help me out here if you will. I've got this mental image of you based on all your rants and I am wondering if you can confirm if I am thinking along the right lines. Here is my mental image, let me know how close I come...
You are a fairly paranoid, occasionally depressed individual who thinks that most people and all government are out to get him. You often have trouble in social settings, meeting new people and have been called socially awkward before. You spend most of your day watching or listening to partisan right-wing fake news, often screaming at the t.v., things like "Yes, Yes Hannity, you get it, you had me at hello". You shed some tears when Beck was booted off Fox. You are an strange combination of dopiness and dumpiness. You are childlike in some ways, holding on to some things from your childhood like playing with G.I. Joes or choo choo trains.
Am I close at all Tommy Boy? Basically I envision you along the lines of the real Tommy Boy, Chris Farley (RIP), just without the comedic skill he had.
Tom Klimczak
12:26 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Wow. Tim you totally nailed it. Not even close, bud.
Let me describe you from your scribblings...
Like most liberals, you need to distract from any real argument by impugning the messenger, or changing the subject, since you really can't make a cogent counter argument. You have little trouble in social settings, since you find yourself surrounded by others who share your affinity for the ideas of Marx and Lenin. you no doubt joined the Occupy protests, deriding evil corporations while sipping a Starbuck's and tweeting fellow travelers on your iPhone. You have never even tried to open a business, much less run one. You have no idea the amounts of time and money spent simply complying with government paperwork - all before any revenue generating work can be started. You think that all businessmen are evil profiteers who take advantage of their employees by not paying them like rock stars. In fact. you view all businesses as simply a source of payroll and tax revenue.
You never left your childhood. You're still there. A little kid, still expecting the parents to pick up the tab.
Grow up, Timmy. ...and smile more.
Tim L.
12:07 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Pirate Boy Tommy, I am smiling, actually laughing, reading all of your right wing conspiracy theory rants from the wee hours this morning. You were like the conspiracy theory energizer bunny you just went on and on and on with your delusional commenting. Was there steam coming out of your ears as you banged away on your computer at 1:00 a.m? Was sweat dripping from your brow by the time you were done?
In terms of not being close on the Pirate Boy mental image, did I nail any of it? I have a funny feeling that I probably got many of your characteristics right. I am having a hard time believing much of what you say because of your willingness to lie in your posts, you have been taught well by your boys at Faux News. You seem to have been taught well, you are like a young lying Faux News jedi in training.
Since I can't trust you is there anyone on these message boards who knows Pirate Boy Tommy? Can you vouch for him and that I was "not even close" in my description of him.
Tom Klimczak
3:45 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Speaking of model trains...
9:52 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012
Here's a question that I heard today... Thought I would share it here.
"I wonder when President Obama is going to tell the Middle East to stop clinging to their "guns and religion.?
Tom Klimczak
12:16 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
That would imply that Barry has a pair.
Walt Hines
1:46 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
It's time that the U.S. stops being big brother to the rest of the world. Why is it that every time you turn around we're putting our guns and tanks in someone else's face. Stop importing, bring the jobs back home and put Americans back to work. If you want to believe in the Easter bunny or agree with the devil himself who the heck cares. All the millions of dollars we send over seas to feed the rest of the world is disgusting. We have kids that are going to bed hungry every night yet we have no problem opening the purse strings for others. We lag far behind the rest in education and health care is no better off. Our elected officials act like a bunch of spoiled brats who can't and won't work together to better it's own people. It's one way or the highway and both sides are to blame!
Pro Life Crusader +
12:21 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Let's sing Kumbaya and vote Obama's useless a// out of Office!!!!
Tom Koz
1:35 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Tim L., are there probably a number of racists and homophobes in the TEA Party??? I would bet there are. Just as I'm sure there are some in the Democratic and Republican partties. Question: even if there are racists and homophobes in the TEA Party Sooooo what??? Anybody / everybody has just as much of a right to Hate people of another race or sexual preference as you, or anybody for that matter, has a right to love them!! Just like I have every right to hate stupid pompous liberal progressives. Everyone, lib/progressive types always seem to divert intelligent debate by throwing the race / homophobe card. Suggestion: when that happens say OK - Soooooo What !!
Oh, and Tim, the TEA in TEA Party stands for Taxed Enough Already, so it stands to reason that the Main platform of the party is to not have taxes increased and keep/lower government spending. Can your liberal mind comprehend???
Tim L.
11:58 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Hey KKKoz, thank you for proving my point. There is a party of Hate, where people think it is acceptable that "everybody has just as much of a right to hate people of another race or sexual preference" and thank god I am not part of it. It it this extreme radical right wing mentality that makes you so proud that will doom your party, bet on it. Try as it might for your party to pretend it is inclusionary, your comments and your partisan media outlets that tacitly approve this thinking will be the reason why people will continue to run from your party. What an embarrassment for you and your party that you feel you have a right to hate people based on their skin color, sexual orientation or political views.
Can your confederate flag waving, doomsday bunker building, gun toting, pork rind eating, tea party loving, general lee driving, missing tooth smiling, wife beater t-shirt wearing mind comprehend that???
Tom Klimczak
3:46 pm on Tuesday, September 25, 2012
Don't bother. He's a squirrel.
Not worth the trouble.
F Scholer
5:36 pm on Monday, October 1, 2012
Timmy my boy, here is some of Romney's accomplishments with Bains:
The firm was founded in 1984 by partners from the consulting firm Bain & Company. Since inception it has invested in or acquired hundreds of companies including AMC Entertainment, Aspen Education Group, Brookstone, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Domino's Pizza, DoubleClick, Dunkin' Donuts, D&M Holdings, Guitar Center, Hospital Corporation of America (HCA), Sealy, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys "R" Us, Warner Music Group and The Weather Channel.
To make things easier for you, list some of Obama's accomplishments.
11:50 pm on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
I've read thru this whole page and my only comment is TIM L is a bitter, imature crybaby liberal who has no facts just nasty partisan talking points. Its funny to read. I think your mommy is calling she wants you to come home now.