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Blighty's schools shake on new 3-year deal with Microsoft
The Department for Education claims a three-year Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) with Microsoft will save schools £10m on licensing over the next three years, in part by "factoring freeware" into the deal. The agreement began 1 January and runs until the end of 2015 giving schools across the UK the option to buy Microsoft …
Feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
... and they stay hooked for life. :-(
I'm a Physics teacher in the UK and despair of the "All computers and Software are made by Microsoft" approach in FAR too many schools. OOo or Libre Office, Firefox, Chrome etc are all BANNED from being used in my school as 'dangerous' to the network'! Open Source is deemed as virus riddled insecure stuff and is all banned... although we use Java!!!
Re: Feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
I agree, teach them using Open Office and Linux, then when they hit the real world where 99% of businesses use MS Office they will be as useless at that, as many other things you teach them in school.
This Mr Teacher is what happens when people live in the academic world and not the business world, they live in a fantasy utopia that lives in the land of theory and ideal scenarios and not reality.
Don't worry happens at universities as well, if not more.
I'm happy for them to have a mix to open their eyes, but to exclude MS completely is just a stupid, stupid move.
"but to exclude MS completely is just a stupid, stupid move"
I agree, but don't see why the tax payer should pay MS here as it is, in effect, a free advert and product promotion.
Hell, it might be the case that if enough big gov users have Linux as an OS of choice but are open to MS they would offer Office for it. That would benefit everyone really.
Re: Feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
"I agree, teach them using Open Office and Linux, then when they hit the real world where 99% of businesses use MS Office they will be as useless at that, as many other things you teach them in school."
Yeah or we could just carry on churning out MS Office drones who know dick about actual computing. I suggest you get back to the mid 90's where you belong. The Microsoft Office "era" is over, if our kids need MS Office skills then offer it as a side subject (as we used to with typing) and get this useless shit off the main curriculum for good.
Re: Feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
The problem is, by the time you've gone through GCSE's, A levels and university, the latest version of Office that is going to be used in the real world is likely to be as different to the one you learnt as OpenOffice or anything else is. Add to this the "parrot-style" tuition that often passes for computer literacy these days, and very few kids have the skills to use a word processor or a spreadsheet - instead they have a qualification for Word 20xx and Excel 20yy.
Re: Feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
Since they only did this to troll Eadon, I'd call it a roaring success.
Also, there's support bundled. It's probably just as expensive to go FOSS when you count in support and maybe more so when you consider retraining all those part-time school admins/maths teachers, who frankly have better things to do anyway.
Re: Feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
MS has it's place but the market has moved on to "Smart Devices" most of these do not use MS Office my kids can use Polaris Office equally well as they can use MS Office. I say stop teaching kids how to use MS Products and teach them about Computing.
Re: Feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
Force-feed the children Microsoft crack whilst young....
There... fixed that for you. O:-)
It's not like there's any choice. It is, of course, ILLEGAL to neglect to indoctrinate "educate" your children... and you're hardly going to find a school/curriculum which doesn't impose a strictly enforced Microsoft indoctrination regimen onto its subjects... so other than chuck-in your career to inflict some third rate hippy DIY "home schooling" on your progeny, there doesn't appear to be any parental say/choice/dissent permitted whatsoever.
Sounds like a good deal??
"... more cost effective choices that include "using alternative and free to use software".
I know people who have 'free to use' software that they obtained from 'alternative' sources. Is this a similar thing?
"there is no obligation to buy stuff from the Redmond software giant though, and under the terms of the deal they will not be penalised for using an alternative."
Some negotiating genius managed to get Microsoft to allow schools to use non-Microsoft products without paying a penalty to Microsoft? Just like I persuaded Ford to sell me a car and not pay a penalty if I fitted it with some cheap Vauxhall car mats?
Do Microsoft routinely impose these sorts of conditions on bulk-buy customers, because it sounds like they do.
Re: Sounds like a good deal??
You didn't think that the "OEM" sector was the only market they'd infected with this shit?
Evil fuckwits
Flushing a generation of our children's IT educations down the bog for the sake of a fat backhander.
Who the hell's supposed to care if you got a GCSE in clicking on buttons in some shite propitiatory office app which was superseded ten years ago and has since been pissed about beyond recognition?
Re: Evil fuckwits
Try reading the article, they've made a deal to allow them to use FOSS software without extracting a penalty in the terms, i.e. prices stay low even if they use Open Office rather than Microsoft Office, where usually they would only get a discount if they guaranteed to buy both....
I suspect this is a good deal they have, that gives them a good discount on standard prices!
Re: Evil fuckwits
Try reading the article, they've made a deal to allow them to use FOSS software without extracting a penalty in the terms, i.e. prices stay low even if they use Open Office rather than Microsoft Office, where usually they would only get a discount if they guaranteed to buy both....
Some derisory token "deal" to (on paper) end a sinister and probably unlawful monopoly is hardly worth getting excited about, is it? It's not like they've announced the actual introduction of some IT or other such heresy into the national indoctrination curriculum.
Re: Evil fuckwits
"to allow them to use FOSS software"
The article says "freeware". That may or may not be F/OSS.
I know how
"said Education Secretary Michael Gove, who didn't say how much nor how the government reached the £10m figure."
Same as all Government finances.
1. Write the headline figure
2. ?
3. Announce
If I read that right , it Sounds like an actual win for the gov for a change, no penalties if they use free software, i.e. open source!
I understand why schools teach MS windows & office, its because of its prevalence in industry...
BUT if we start teaching kids about linux & Open/Libre Office now, then in 5-6 years time we will have a mass of Linux savvy kids and THAT would cut the costs of training for businesses wanting to use FOSS software.. and saving British Industry money!
"Not be penalised"
By Microsoft for not buying from Microsoft?
Re: "Not be penalised"
I think it would usually go like this:
If you buy all your stuff from me, I'll give you a discount, if you buy some of your stuff from my rival, I won't.
Bearing this in mind, the government have had a bit of a win here by getting a discount from a supplier and still being free to use the supplier's rivals.
Re: "Not be penalised"
"the government have had a bit of a win here ..."
But no-ones saying how much the school budget will be paying MS in return foeer this £10million "saving", or how much of MS's UK profits will be shipped to a tax-haven.
Re: "Not be penalised"
MS Agreements can not prevent you from using freeware, they are hoping given the choice no one will use Open Source...they know the easy route is the most commonly chosen...then when the School system exceeds the agreed upon numbers of products they can come in, audit and demand payments for these infringing licenses to match the rest of the agreed contract.
Should be free
If Microsoft want all kids brain-washed into thinking theirs is the only software then they should be providing it free to schools.
Also, if schools already have a version of Office, why do they need to upgrade?
My 8 year old son was set homework he had to do on Powerpoint the other day - ridiculous.
Re: Should be free
I agree with that, and if my son is ever sent home work that he has to do using a specific piece of software, my next phone call will be to the school to ask them to supply the hardware and software to do so!
Re: Should be free
Or they should provide free copies to students expected to present work using their damned software.
Libre Office isn't accepted at our boys' school for some stuff.
Even worse, though, they're being taught their AS/A2 ICT-computing or whatever it's called this week.. with VISUAL BASIC ...
Re: Should be free
in fact, parental purchases of microsoft products is probably the benefit of this deal to microsoft.
michael gove triumphs again, leading the country into the future
Re: Should be free
And what is exactly wrong with Visual Basic?
I learn't to program using BBC BASIC and Then later Java before I moved onto VB.NET and C#. I've mucked about with Python, Ruby, Perl and a bit of C.
While I agree VB has some syntactical problems and oddities it has you can still practice all the basic concepts which are transferrable to any langauge.
Re: Should be free
The pupils probably are entitiled to a MS Office license to use at home, Microsoft licenses for students means that the licenses which the schools buy for use in the school can (under the right circumstances) also be extended to the students using the software outside of the school too
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Re: Should be free
Libre office won't do much of what your child will need to know. Not using MS Office in school is like teaching kids Esparanto as a second language.
Re: Should be free
So what you saying is why learn English as Spanish is the most spoken language across the world. We should only learn Spanish then. Let me also point out that the more common used operating system is not Windows but Linux in our new Kids world. These are all Linux Based (OSx, Android, Ubuntu). Yes I even have clients who use no MS products in there entire business, only Linux and products like Open Office.
£10 million over 3 years...
....is surely a piss in the ocean. Thats just £3.3 a year. I don't know how many schools there are but it sounds like peanuts per school. Sounds to me like they'd save just as much if they used cheaper Biros.
Gove is a complete twat.
Re: £10 million over 3 years...
I don't normally answer my own posts but I couldn't resist.
assuming the following sources are true then the number of schools in England is
Primary : 16,971 ( http://tinyurl.com/reg-prim )
Secondary: 3,127 ( http://tinyurl.com/reg-sec )
Giving you 20,098 schools. Now take your £10m and divide it and you get £497.56 per school over the 3 years or £165.85 per year per school.
Well done, all those schools are going to be able to really enhance their educational experiences with that!
I know that is probably a slightly simplistic approach but its probably not far off the truth.
(Penguin Icon: we need to get open source into education if only to prove there is more than one way to solve a problem)
Re: £10 million over 3 years...
I can save that clown 10 Million.
See icon.
Re: £10 million over 3 years...
@ g e
No, you'd save that clown (and schools/taxpayers) hundreds of millions.
Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
The government should put a stop to schools training kids to be MS mouse-pushers and teach them real computing - a proper operating system (POSIX) and one that is open source. (Linux / BSD etc).
Otherwise we are locking the entire country into playing MS licences for inferior solutions. And not teaching real computing.
Further more, our tax is being used to lock kids into MS solutions (Microsoft like to get them young). It's perverse.
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
I could not agree more.
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
My son's school used to do everything based on Office but when younger son started 4 years later they'd ditched all that ... everything is based on Google docs now - I'm not convinced its an improvement!
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
@Eadon - The vast majority of ICT teaching in schools is not teaching computing, programming or computer science, it's teaching the use of computers and other associated communications technologies with a specific slant towards what's needed in the workplace. They are certainly not being taught about Operating Systems, rather conceptually about how a desktop works and how the software that they're likely to use in business is operated, this can be done on Apple, MS, Linux, whatever. The main issue is that pretty much every company in the country uses MS office, so the schools can either send kids into the workplace with the skills required in the package that they will need to use, or then can give them an education which won't leave them as well prepared for work. Until businesses change their practices, schools are probably doing the right thing here, in my opinion.
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
@AC 9.43 - I agree, Google Docs is not an improvement on MS Office for education, it's closed and proprietary.
I would suggest using a free, open source office suit that standardises on the genuinely open ODF format. (Such as Libre Office).
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
Our kids should not be taught MS Office even if it is used by most companies. It might not be in the future. For example Execs are moving towards Apple solutions.
In any case, LibreOffice can be used to teach the essentials of word processing and Spreadsheets. I see no reason why kids have to be taught a Microsoft product when the same skills can be taught with a free, open source product. The only difference is the Ribbon, and MS are continually changing the UI anyway. So if you teach kids MS Office, their "skills" will quickly become obsolete.
The idea of teaching kids products from a proprietor y vendor (who might not even be around in 5 years the way they are going) to be unethical.
Furthermore, the tax player is paying for these licences, even if it is with "discounts". Libre Office costs nothing. And governments must cut spending, we shouldn't be paying Microsoft, or accepting bribes from them, to indoctrinate our kids on their dodgy software. We should be teaching principles of word processing and computing, not specifics of an expensive, proprietary and inferior (Ribbon etc) product.
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
Except I know a lot of confessed Linux users that didn't understand the difference between basic computer concepts such as "ROM vs RAM" and why a modern operating system expects a swap file.
Using Linux doesn't magically teach you the underlying principle of how a computer works, which hasn't really changed since I was mucking about on a hand me down BBC Micro in the early 90s.
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
Luke 12 - With Linux you can use the Raspberry Pi to teach fundamentals of computing, - you can see all the components on the card and interact with them. You cannot do that with Windows, which entirely insulates you from the computer.
From a GUI perspective there's not much difference between Linux and Windows in terms of teaching computer science. However the Linux command line is far more logical and powerful than the Dos command line interface of Windows.
Also a lot of open source software exists for Linux and there arer hobby projects and so forth that are based on Linux. For kids to really learn about computers, Linux is simply vastly superior to windows.
With windows you learn what? Clicking on ribbons. With Linux you learn how to do anything that windows can teach plus a lot more besides. Both operating systems can teach slow-learning kids. But with Linux there is far more richness - the genius kids can download the Linux source code and investigate that.
Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software
Last time I checked, the "computer" on a Raspberry Pi was encased in a square of plastic about the size of a postage stamp and completely hidden from view. Not that I would be able to see how it works without a decent microscope anyway!
Ohhh Baby [Was: Re: Kids taught to use Windows, which is inferior proprietary software]
"The government should put a stop to schools training kids to be MS mouse-pushers and teach them real computing - a proper operating system (POSIX) and one that is open source. (Linux / BSD etc)."
Eadon... Linux and BSD? You said, "BSD" Eadon... "BSD"!! Gawd, you're so sexy when you talk like that! ;)
I see that they won't be penalised for using alternative software such as open-source.
oh how generous of MS to allow that. why not make every parent or guardian buy a lifetime Windows licence at the same time.
the old argument about teaching kids with Windows and Office because that's what used in 'the real world' is starting to wear thin methinks. yes of course MS still have the market share but you know for the small er business the alternatives are looking really good at the moment.
Re: alternatives
@Chris - The thing is that MS Office is what's used in the vast majority of companies.
Re: alternatives
Oh No! Companies use computers not supplied by RM- our kids are doomed.
"What is the matter Miss Smith?" "Sorry sir, I can't send you that spreadsheet, the computers at school had grey keyboards, but the Company ones are black - I can't use them..."
I work in schools, and the quantity of software that cannot be replicated with free/open source is colossal...
Its very easy to say use a Linux based teaching alternative, but the truth is the teachers have enough issues controlling the kids and using Microsoft, let alone having to cope with totally alien software and operating systems.
We trailed the use of OO and found it a pain to deploy consistently, We use OSX on some machines, but they are now gathering dust as the staff are having issues coming to grips with the change (yes, we have tried training, but we cant afford to pay overtime to train the staff with more than the rudimentary skills to operate the machines and getting supply in to train staff during school hours is still expensive and counter productive to the students education.)
Our cheap to run MFC's lack proper Linux support, they even run in a limited capacity on the OSX machines, 90% of our educational software is windows only, we have some cross platform stuff, but non MS tends to be a revision or more behind the windows equivalent. - as a comparison, imagine the ios app store is the current crop of teaching resources for windows... how would you feel if your child's education was then downgraded to use less than the availibity on windows phone marketplace...
Office is not the only software used in school...
Come on, they can't be RICHTO as they have not claimed that FOSS is much more vulnerable then Windows!
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Curing and drying is another major problem here because of the fact that this is the rainiest season. A Man here has invested in a $10,000 drying machine and when the hay comes through this it is chopped up and then it has to be sacked as any ground feed. It sold for about $45 per ton. Most of the farmers raise a mixture of peas and oats and cut it before the oats are rine to supply their own hay. Milk is worth 25c per qt. , _ We are surrounded on three sides bv mountains. ThQ closest of which is five miles. On bright mornings it seems as iust a sho^t walk from the camp. The transients sent uo here proved to be from everv walk of life, but verv few carnenters so thev had to hire Alaskan labor Which made the cost of iour homes much higher as the transients were to b° oaid by the state of nn'if^r-ia Living conditions are made as easv as "possible. Woman fo^s will have gasoline irons and washing machines, also b"ilt in cupboards, good floors and sinks The stump puUinfr and breaking will be done bv caterpiFars. The corporation has a number of trucks, pickups and cat°rnillars. also a counle of buz? saws so the wood won't have to be sawed by hand. Several-saw mills were put into use this summer and a large oercontage of the houses are built of logs sawed on three sides. Our home is made o_ round logs. Radio receotion is very uncertain, as one may be em'oving a good program and then have it die away or it may be good for a few hours and then be gone for the rest of the nitrht. The food supply is nlentvful and of good quality. Each fami ly is given a generous monthlv allowance, according to the size of the family. There is no need of any one wearing ragged clothes as we are well supnlied. Our community center is getting to be quite a town. There is a building housing the trading post and some of the offices, a warehouse, power house barber shop shoe shop, garage and No- mans office for exchanging and selling home made articles m. Other buildings underconstruc tion are a hospital, recreation hall, schooi house, depot, dormitory, doctor's house, manager's house and several other homes. Sincerely, Mrs. Grant Kenser (GertrudeJames) IND. B. B. TOURNA- MEN AT PINE RIVER The Cass County Men's Athle- tion ass'n are planning for a basketball tournament to be held in Pine River. The tentative dates for the tournament are Mar. 13-14 and will either be played in the high school gym or at the ar mory The uncertainty being due to the fact that the balcony at the high school gym is under construction and not yet complet ed. The Tournament will be composed of teams from Backus, Boy River, Cass Lake, Federal Dam, Hackensack, Pillager. Pine River, Remer and Walker. Bena may also enter a team. Most of these teams have been playing re gularly and are very evenly matehed which should make the tournament plenty interesting. The tournament is somewhat late this year due to inclement weather, bad roads, and the late start of the recreational department. It will no doubt be a very fine tournament so plan to attend. The winner of the district tournament will play in the regional tournaemnt to be held in Brainerd on March 20 and 21. More complete details of the regional and district tournaments will be published in this paper next week. Plans are also being made for a Women's tournament to be held in the near future. A more definite date will be given later as plans are not yet completed. HARPIST ENTERTAINS AT SCHOOL FRIDAY The Brown-Meneley Duo ofthe Northwest Assemblies, who were tc entertain at the High School Auditorium on Friday morning failed to appear. But fortunately Don Milne, an accomplished Harpist had arrived in Pine River on the nreoeeding day and consented to fill their place with the assistance rf his Barents, Rev. and Mrs. Milne. The program consisted of solos on the harpand beautiful art numbers by Mrs. Milne. Everyone present was more than satisfied with the sub stitution. After the program Mr. Milne met with the music classes and gave a very interesting talk on the construction of the haro and demonstrated how it was nlaved. Don Milne is harpist with the Waterhouse Orchestra at Kansas City, Mo. PROGRAM TO SAVE LAKES LAUNCHED WITH WPA LABOR A water conservation program of far reaching imortance to all of Northern Minnesota, especially centers interested in the tourist business, was launched this week. As a result of cooperation between the state Depart ment of Conservation and the of fice of Victor Christgau, WPA administrator, actual construction of three dams has been start ed and before the program is fin ished this summer, 46 others at the outlets of as many reser- voiro in the major watrsheds ot the lake area, will have been completed. The construction is under the direction of J. H. Downs, a prominent hydraulics onerineer in the office of Walter Olson, in charge of the state's water conservation program. DON DAVID MILNE, CONCERT HARPIST Don David Milne, Radio and Concert Harpist, who is visiting with his parents, Rev. and Mrs. M. B. Milne of Pine River, began his playing career sixteen years ago as the 'Boy Harpist.' He has appeared professionally in more than twenty states. This winter he has been broadcasting from KFH Witchita, and has often been featured over WEBC, Duluth and also several southern stations. The people of Pine River will have an opportunity to hear this talented harpist at a recital in Pine River at an early date. SUNDAY NIGHT DINNER CLUB MET AT T. E. HILLS LOCALS WIN TWO DROP ONE AT TOURNAMENT Pine River Wins Two Games Lose To Verndale Saturday Mr. and Mrs. T. E. Hill entertained the Sunday Night Dinner Club at their home Sunday evening at 6 o'clock. Covers were laid for twelve. Following the delicious meal contract was played with Mrs. Clyde Town- send leading the ladies and John Kater leading the men. FORTNIGHTLY CLUB MEETS The regular meeting of the Fortnightly Club was held at the home of Mrs. T. E. Hill at the usual seven o'clock supper hour on Monday evening. Cards followed the supper with Mrs.Louis Isensee finishing with high score and Mrs. Harris Zigmund second. ERADELPHIAN CLUB MET WITH MRS. CHAS. SIEBEL A very interesting meeting of the Eradelphian Club was held at the home of Mrs. Chas. Siebel on Friday afternoon. Mrs. Otto Haack gave an excellent paper on Minnesota authors. The next meeting will be held at the home of Mrs. D. L. Triggs on March 16 The topic will be 'Film Production and Movies.' After the program there will be a supper followed by a theatre party at the Marlow, when members of the club will see Will Rogers in his last picture, Tn Old Kentucky.' 4H CLUB MEETING The Pine River 4H Hub will hold a meeting in the school house Saturday, March 7, at 2:00 P. M. > Officers will be elected at this time and all old members with all the boys and girls who desire to enroll for the coming year are requested to be present. Plans for a music contest and also for a one act play will be discussed. It is hoped that conditions will allow a large number to be present. The Sub-District basketball tournament held at Wadena last week drew a large crowd from Pine River, as well as from other towns participating. Two lar ge school busses besides several private cars with about 100 fans motored to Wadena each evening and witnessed the games. The first two games the locals were going strong winning the (first game from Backus by a score of 34-17. On Friday evening they .drew the fast playing Hewitt quint and again emerged victorious with a score of 29-16 The Winnig of the Hewitt game placed Pine River in the finals Saturday evening with Verndale as the opposing team. They played a close game and also a very interesting game but wereunable to get over the hump The Hewitt boys winning the game by a score of 24-18. ' The local boys played good basketball and deserve much credit for the showing they made and no Coach Matson should received congratulations also for turning out a team of this calibre. Both'the Verndale and Pine River teams will take part in the District tournament this week end according to Coach Matson. The District tournament will be held in Brainerd. WHIST TOURNAMENT To date Zigmund and Triggs lead in the Whist tournament that is being held weekly at the I. O. O. F. Hall. The scores to date are as follows: Downing - Ackerman 222 Carpenter - Christian 137 Ritchie - Schuster 246 Rovick - Rovick 244 Fraser - VanKempen 227 Walton - McAllister 261 Shepard - McAllister 155 Robideau - Bremken __193 Townsend - Fields 171 Triggs - Zigmund 278 Shiffer - Luscher 224 Kolb - Yancey 189 A Dancing Class, consisting of tap dancing, toe dancing acrobatics etc., will be started in Pine River on Wed., Mar. 11. Any one interested call 60 for an appointment. BLAKELEY - BOWMAN George Bowman of Hackensack and Mrs. W. E. Blakeley of Turtle Lake were united in marriage at the Methodist parson- ag at Bemidji, on Tuesday, February 25. Mr. Bowman is well known in this vicinity having conducted a meat market in Pine River for several years. Mr. and Mrs. Bowman will make their home at Turtle Lake. ARMORY PROPOSED FOR CITY HALL TUES. The Pine River Commercial Club was invited to attend the regular meeting of the village council on Tuesday evening of this week for the purpose of discussing the acceptance of the Armory building as a City Hall. Dr. Button and Lon Fields, reported that they had spoke to Adjt. Walsh at Brainerd about purchasing the Armory and Mr. Walsh informed them that they would give the Armory to the village without any cost whatsoever and that all that was necessary was to inform our Senator an Representative of the matter and have a bill introduced at the next legislature and the village would receive the deed. It was also planned to house all the fire equipment in the armory and oossiblv to build a ramp on the south side for entrance to the basement. Those present felt that if enough civic organizations could be induced to use the building as a club hall and etc to make the building self supporting, the building should be accepted. A Manner was then discussed ot advertising Pine River together with the Paul Bunyon Playground. Dave Triggs, pres., then suggested that letterheads bearing the Paul Bunyon insignia and the names of members on one side and a map of Pine River and its resort districts on the other be printed and used aa sta tionary by the local firms. The suggestion seemed to be unanimously favored by all those present and a committee consisting of Otto Haack, L. E. Dougherty, Harve Cromett and Grant Bergstrom were appointed to gather additional information concerning the possibility o'f this. PTA WILL MEET ON MONDAY, MAR. 9 Calling your attention to the March meeting of the PTAorgan ization, the program committee announces the following program: 'The Pine River Players'There have been so many requests for this orchestra to appear again that they have consented to plav a couple of numbers at this meeting. Talk, by Dr. Kaufman on Tn- flamatory Rheumatism in Children.' This will be both instructive and interesting to all parents. / "The Auto Age," a ten minute sketch that was announced for the last meeting of the PTA but due to the illness of one of the players, was omitted and will be presented at this meeting. The cast includes Mr. and Mrs. Lewis Walton, Mrs. Lon Fields, Mrs Ernest Robideau and Mr. Harris Zigmund. 'ANNIE OAKLEY" FIGURE Among- the interesting figures in American history brought to the screen in Barbara Stanwycks new picture, 'Annie Oakley,' is Ned Buntline, who handled much of Buffalo Bill's publicity, and was once considered the most prolific dime novelist in America Photographs owned bv Ed Phillips, who was with Buffalo Bill for fourteen years, were used by the RKO Radio studio to authen ticate the scenes in the picture, in which Preston Foster and Mel vyn Douglas are featured. NEWS BRIEFS FROM AROUND OUR STATE MODERN VEHICLE HAS ALL LATE IMPROVEMENTS Worthington—A new vehicle has made its appearance in Nobles county which is strictly up- to date, with knee action, floating power, a miser on as mileage, practically steers itself, and with flat tires unknown. It is fully equipped with a heater and a full sedan body. Arnold Schul- tz, farmer near Worthington, ad mits it is a little slow, with a crusing speed of only five miles per hour, but offsets this advantage by the fact that it can get into town without getting stuck, which is more than some of these eighty mile an hourbeau ties can do until the snow plows have gotten in their work. Seriously, the novel outfit is strictly a home-made affair, consisting of a sturdy bob sled powered by a phegmatic farm team, the novelty lying in it being equipped with an old sedan body purchased from the junk heap of a garage. Schultz has removed the lid of the cowl ventilator.and drives the team by drawing the lines through the opening. Heat is furnished by a coal oil heater in the lear compartment. EMPTY CAR DOES A RUN-AWAY STUNT Perham—In the old days runaway horses furnished a good deal of entertainment for villagers. Now runaways of that sort are unusual, but last week a new feature was added to the possible thrills at Perham, a runaway car. Math Schmitz was working on a car in the front part of the garage, which had just been brought in and parked near the front door. In order to test the engine, Math aoplied the crank. The driver had left the car in reverse gear. There was a spluttering roar, and the car jumped back. It crashed the door open, shattering the glass, and turning obliquely, shot across the street. It missed a parked car by inches, bolted over the sidewalk, crashed open the gate of a monument yard, ran about 15 feet into the yard and stalled in the snow. Very little damage was done to the car considering its wild charge. TRAIN KILLS HORSE IN A FREAK ACCIDENT Benson—Death swooped down on two Benson farmers at the rate of seventy miles per hour recently, only to be cheatedwhen a horse was stripped of his harness and carried 100 feet down the track, leaving the other horse, the sleigh, and two men unharmed. L. Riehsen and otto Pulchulski were driving their sleih into town and did not see the fast mail train, three hours behind schedule and trying to make up time. With the train al most on top of them, they swerved the team to the right and a- way from the train. This move brought the sleigh and its occupants out of danger, but the engine struck the horse on the left side. The animal was instantly killed, and was hurled completely out of his harness 100 feet down the track. The remaining horse escaped injury, and no appreciable damage was done to the sleigh or the two men, who leaped to safety. HARPIST ENTERTAINS AT VARIETY SHOW You will be entertained by the following listed attractions at the Variety Show which will be presented in the very near future. Final arrangements have not yet been made as to the date and place but next week full details will be published in this paper- watch for it! In the meantime read over the numbers that are ready. 'Little Oscar,' a one act comedy. 'Spanish Dance, Las Marianas' by La Rojita. 'George Abraham Dupont Jones' a harlem specialty.
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Title | The Pine River Journal (Pine River, Minnesota), 1936-03-05 |
Edition | Volume 1, Number 29 |
Date of Creation | 1936-03-05 |
Publishing Agency | Grant D. Bergstrom (Pine River, Minnesota) |
Language | English |
Minnesota Reflections Topic | Communication |
Item Type | Text |
Item Physical Format | Newspapers |
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Locally Assigned Subject Headings | Pine River Journal |
Minnesota City or Township | Pine River |
Minnesota County | Cass |
State or Province | Minnesota |
Country | United States |
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Alec Baldwin tweets Emily Dickinson
Posted June 30, 2012
Is this a first for Twitter? Alec Baldwin, set to be wed Saturday in downtown New York, sent out a series of tweets a few hours before quoting one of Emily Dickinson's poems about love and death.
Baldwin is marrying his fiance, yoga instructor Hilaria Thomas, in St. Patrick's Old Cathedral downtown around 7 pm Saturday.
Earlier, Baldwin sent out four tweets containing a couple of lines from the Dickinson poem that starts "Twas a long parting , but the time For interview had come." It goes on, mentioning God in judgment," fleshless lovers," heaven and paradise, cherubim and seraphim - i.e., the usual murky ecstacies of the 19th-century poet, considered one of America's greatest.
Oddly, the "Belle of Amherst's" peculiar style of punctuation and syntax kind of works in a 140-character format. The best reaction came from comedian Andy Borowitz, who tweeted, "Alec, I don't want to freak you out but Emily Dickinson has hacked your Twitter account."
Anyway, poetry was a positive shift for the hot-headed Baldwin, who only a few weeks ago was in yet another smackdown with a paparazzo, this one from the New York Daily News, when he and Thomas went to pick up their license at the city Marriage License Bureau.
The photographer has filed an assault complaint. Baldwin charged in a tweet that the pap almost hit him in the face with a camera. Baldwin thinks some paparazzi should be waterboarded.
The pre-wedding celebrations have included Baldwin's 16-year-old daughter, Ireland, who looks just like her gorgeous mother, actress Kim Basinger, Baldwin's first wife. Naturally, Twitter fiend Baldwin tweeted a photo of himself, Ireland and his brother, Billy Baldwin. All that drama about the nasty phone message Baldwin once left for Ireland? So over.
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Well, as I started reading it, I noticed that I'm not big on the man's writing style. It seems to me as though he's trying to force a popular science tone but doesn't really know how to do it properly. For another, I looked at the table of contents, where each number is listed, and they're mostly not numbers. They're letters, and not all those letters have an actual definable number value. And numbers don't stick well in my head anyway. Reading a page or two on would mean having to refresh my memory. So I've switched to The Pluto Files, which has numbers, but I don't have to remember them.
"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
The Trial of Joan of Arc by Don Nardo.
Don't let your reality checks bounce. ~MeI'll tell you in the next life, when we are both cats.
The Trumpet of the Swan, by E B White!
Couldn't resist. Before passing it over to my baby.
E B White and James Thurber...oh, such graceful writers. I love them.
Grekiska by Eva-Carin Gerö (it's a book about Greek language and culture)
Just received (but hadn't yet started) "Bringing Down the House" (nonfiction), after a recommendation from a coworker. It's about a group of MIT students who took Las Vegas for a ride with card counting, disguising themselves to get back in after being thrown out for card counting, going to the wrong casino and getting beat up and their money "stolen back" for card counting, etc.
I'm always reading more than one book at a time. It's fun, but it makes for slow-going. Anyways...
Current: Nicholas and Alexandra, by Robert Massie.
World War II: Bombers over Japan (Time-Life Books).
Immediate Future:
Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said, by Phillip K. Dick.
The Reformation, by Patrick Collinson.
Re-reading Marusek's Counting Heads, so I can start on his recently-released sequel.
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Don't let your reality checks bounce. ~MeI'll tell you in the next life, when we are both cats.
I often have three or four books open. I get disinterested easily and am not willing to admit it. Maybe half the time, I'll pick up a half-read book and continue.
Reading has become difficult for me in the last few years. I can't seem to read more than twenty or so pages at a sitting. It doesn't help that my eyes are failing.
Actually, I'm less likely to read more than one book at a time than I used to be, though technically, I suppose I still do it--I'm reading The Pluto Files for myself. I'm reading Blood Rites, by Jim Butcher, aloud to Graham. And he listens to audio books when we aren't watching something--at the times when, left to myself, I'd listen to music.
"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
If you liked Castles, you'll probably want to read Dreadnought, although I found the latter to be a little tiresome at points. Still, I'm glad I read it. Dreadnought deals with the events and personalities leading up to the first world war. You'll learn plenty about Bismark, for instance, and the relationship between Queen Victoria and her grandson, Kaiser William II. That was all fascinating to me as I was fairly ignorant of that time period prior to reading the book. The tiresome part is that you will be told much more than perhaps you wanted to know about every player on the scene: all the British prime ministers and German chancellors and all the supporting cast.
Castles of Steel is also about personalities of course, particularly the British admirals, but because it also gets into the war strategy, it was more interesting to me.
Currently re-reading Good Omens by Pratchett & Gaiman; I'd forgotten how much I enjoyed it...
Finished The Hundred Days and now moving on (although backwards in time) to The Commodore. Both by Patrick O'Brian.
Waiting in the wings is David McCullough's 1776, the Illustrated edition. Lots of maps, period artwork, pull outs, copies of letters from Abagail to John, George to Martha, etc. Making history come alive...sort of...
I'm reading Bio of a Space Tyrant vol 3: Politician by Piers Anthony. Found it in a used book store. I had read the previous volumes years ago. Never did get to this one though.
Just started reading Little Pancho: The life of tennis legend Pancho Segura. Everybody speaks of Pancho Gonzales, but Pancho Segura was a great player too. Gonzales' first name was actually Riccardo and Segura's was Francisco. But both were called Pancho, the name white Americans in the 50's gave to anyone South of the border. Segura didn't mind. Gonzales did. Segura integrated better, Gonzales remained a rebel deeply resentful of the class snub. Segura was short and bow-legged, Gonzales was tall and athletic. Great book for tennis nuts like me...
I was reading a book I found on clearance for a dollar at the Half Price Bookstore, the First Book of Swords, by Fred Saberhagen, and didn't realize that it was part of a series until I got to the "end" and nothing was resolved. Now I'll have to look for the Second Book of Swords, etc.
The Rise of True Crime: 20th-Century Murder and American Popular Culture, by Jean Murley.
"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"
"You can't erase icing."
"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"
RE Geonuc:
Thanks for the capsule review. That's about what I figured; though I find Bismarck and Wilhelm II fascinating historical characters, I think I prefer my straight-up military campaigns.
I really enjoyed that series! I read those a good 20 yrs. ago.
Finished all the 'Hutch' novels by Jack McDevitt, now reading "Dies the Fire" by S.M. Stirling. It's the first in a series about the goings on in the Willamette Valley and a part of Idaho (it's following two separate groups of people) after a strange phenomenon causes a worldwide electrical blackout (think world-wide permanent EMP). Gunpowder burns too slow to push a bullet, so guns don't work anymore either. Pretty entertaining so far, though it does require a suspension of reality with the whole 'no electricity AND no guns' thing--though that's the case for a lot of sci-fi...
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I really appreciate NISA making a contest for those not artistically inclined with the Sakura Wars Comic Contest.
I would love to see more of these types of contests for the average joes out there who would like to enter NISA contests, but have no artistic talent, or aren't interested in drawing or making stuff (i.e. badcraft).
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Yes, Eric, when I saw the pic I remembered Toni asking us what we thought should be on the cover. I just wonder what's on the back! ;-)
Hey Laurie, If its like OTRTF it should the same pic but taken from behind
Yeah, Eric, you're right. I'll bet that's it. On the other hand, maybe there's a tricky surprise twist to the original photo "reversal"? ;-)
Love the review and song list-- thanks so much for posting it! I keep reading the review over and over like maybe I'll be able to hear the music if I keep reading the review
Hi, Lynn! :-) I know what you mean about the below... I do stuff like that sometimes, heh heh. What funny creatures we mere mortals be! I think the waiting is getting even harder the closer we get "on the road to" Alvin's new album. It's like we're on Christmas Eve, but Christmas morning (or whatever winter holiday morning of your choice) is over two months away!!
Hi Laurie! We've got to be able to chuckle at ourselves sometimes:) You're so right on-- it's like an extended Christmas eve. My husband was so funny saying that once I got the CD in the mail I needed to wait for him to listen to it with me (he's a big fan too). I said, "no way-- that CD is getting played right away whether your home or not!" It's really fun to see the great cover and song titles isn't it. I'm intrigued by Song of the Red Rock Mountain, Mignight Creeper and Walk on, Walk Tall. I've e-mailed the review to my Alvin fan friends here at home and they're preordering the CD too. Maybe we can all have a cyber-party here on the board when we get our CDs
Any clue why Alvin is STILL on the road to freedom...sounds like a lengthy road... He was on that road in the seventies and now in the 21th century, he still has not found freedom
I suspect what is meant is freedom in the loftiest sense, which could seem elusive even after decades. Or be a long work in progress. Or have been found, then lost again. Only Alvin can answer this one for himself, of course. But at some point in any quest for freedom as I see it comes the realization that freedom is ultimately inside one, or it is nowhere at all.
My opinion: You don't just achieve freedom and then leave it alone. Especially when you're looking for freedom to make the kind of music you want. I always thought that was what Alvin meant anyway, at least with the original OTRTF....he felt confined by TYA's musical style and by what the record labels and even the audience wanted from him, and he wanted the freedom to do what he wanted and to explore different musical options. I don't think that ever ends....it's a constant journey.


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Thanks Dusan. Mr. Lehmann is just great, all the credit goes to him!
Here some info on the saddles seen:
The troppers saddle was called: Kavallerie-Reitsattel Ordonnanz 1906
Introduced in 1895, improved in 1906, Mr. Lehmann does not know which improvement/changes were made, though he believes the bitting was changed from bit and bridoon to snaffle.
From 1906-1972 the saddle was not changed.
The officers model 1900/44 (with the black saddle cloth/pad) was improved in 1944. Improvements were: moving the centre of gravity forward, lowering the seat, increasing size of saddle flaps and narrowing the knee pads. I'll have to ask Mr. Lehmann why this was done, I presume because they chaged the seat. I guess he will explain this in detail, being an Olympic derssage competitor himself.
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Great sound, but terrible fit
This headset delivers most of what Jabra usually does: light weight, great sound and battery life, etc. Unfortunately, the design is based on a flexible boom that has to twist to fit into your ear and twists itself out of my ear in less than a minute.
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Also, the call button will not trigger Siri, and once I get Siri triggered the voice recognition is much poorer than speaking into the phone directly.
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This product is everything they say it is
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DESIGN and ERGONOMICS: The design is perfect. Its sits in my ear comfortable enough but it did require some getting used to.
CO MPATIBILITY: I bought this headset for both, my iPhone 4s and as a gaming headset for TeamSpeak on my MacBook Air running Mountain Lion and Windows 7 through bootcamp. The thing is, windows 7 does not support bluetooth headsets... something to do with bluetooth profiles not included in windows. This is not Jabra's fault so thats not why I gave it 4 stars, however I thought It might be useful to inform.
SOUND QUALITY (OUT): The sound reproduced by the Jabra Wave is nice enough, not a device for music, but it's quite fine for conversations.
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Can i use jabrawave in ipad3
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- Jan 25, 2013
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I'm looking for a headset that I could use on my mac with a soft phone. Would this one work?
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- Jan 8, 2013
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Does this work with MacBook Air and OS X Lion?
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- Jan 14, 2012
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- Jan 27, 2013
Are there different models for right ear or left ear
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- Apr 23, 2012
no it works for both ears. You simply just twist the eargel to change ear
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- Apr 26, 2012
Is it possible to control music from this headset, like pause, play next or previous song ?
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- Dec 31, 2011
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- Jan 4, 2012
Does it work with siri
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- Oct 23, 2011
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If you hold it for a shorter period (what Jabra calls a "tap") then it will only activate the phone and say "connected".
If you hold for 5 seconds it will reset the headset.
So remember, just a press for about 1/2 second. …- Answered by Christopher C from Scottsdale
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Senator Brown Votes for Fiscal Cliff Deal
In his final days in office, Senator Scott Brown threw his support behind a new deal of fiscal cliff plan.
Calling the deal on the fiscal cliff "not perfect," outgoing US Senator Scott Brown (R-Wrentham) endorsed the plan in his final days in office.
He says it ''protects 99 percent of Americans from a massive tax increase," according to an Associated Press report. Brown had supported a no-tax pledge.
The deal raises taxes on individual incomes over $400,000 and over $450,00 for household incomes and a portion of estates more than $5 million. The comprise allows Congress to have more time to work on government spending.
8:17 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
This was a no brainer for him with the Kerry seat opening up. Now he can brag about his partisanship and how he's willing to cross party lines, again.
Avon Barksdale
10:58 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
IT'S NOT KERRY'S SEAT IT'S THE PEOPLES SEAT look at my truck
Dennis Naughton
8:33 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Right. For Scott Brown there is really no "there" there when it comes to personal integrity. Everything has always been driven by trying to gain tactical advantage.
9:00 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
There is is supposed to be a demand for politicians that will support bi-partisanship and "reach across the aisle".Well we had one, Scott Brown. So what do we do? We dump him for a hard liner like Elizabeth Warren.
Bob Thomas
10:40 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
If Brown decides to run for Kerry's seat he will be defeated again. Scott is cooked - he's done. He was elected by Tea Party Republicans who wanted a Republican senator, which he has proven time and again that he's not.
Sayonara Scott... Time to write another book that no one will buy because you are history; bad history.
Emcee of Seekonk
11:23 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Most Massachusetts Republicans and Independents will forgive Scott Brown for his partisanship. Even a moderate Republican is better than a Democrat.
9:35 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Bob I don't think the majority of voters in Massachusetts that voted for, and elected Scott Brown, are Tea Pary Republicans.
Dennis Naughton
11:23 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
@Emcee: Clearly you are no consumer advocate if you are as out of it as your question indicates. Cheer up. You have until 2018 to get to know her.
Emcee of Seekonk
11:48 am on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
I'm sure Harry Reid will be delighted to welcome the Princess of Massachusetts to the Senate chambers. They will have so many stories to exchange. A perfect pair.
David Nolta
10:00 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
You claim you don't know her, Emcee, yet you have so much to say about her...
Gretchen Robinson
6:29 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
ah, nothing has changed with Emcee, snide as ever. What happened MC, you didn't call her Indian princess this time. Can it be you learned you can't malign a candidate with bogus name calling? How do we know you're not just your average, garden variety woman hater??
9:20 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Gretchen, Because a woman is a little conservative means she must be a woman hater?? I thought dems were the non-judgmental and inclusive party?? I guess they are if you are a democrat! Scott Brown should run again and hopefully win so that the people of this state could have a more independent thinker than someone who is so far left or so far right! We need balance in Ma.; way too many liberals in office! And Dennis if you are looking for personal integrity, don't look to the white house cause there is none there! Talk about being driven by trying to gain tactical advantage!! Look no further than OBAMA!!!
David Nolta
10:06 pm on Wednesday, January 2, 2013
What you thought about "dems" clearly needs a lot of revision, Carla. And your line about needing "balance" because there are "way too many liberals in office" is pretty funny when you think about it. Should we just let you appoint some conservatives? For balance? Override the democratic process which was virtually born here? And finally, President Obama has a heap more integrity than those who simply can't get over or around his continued effort to create a fairer and more balanced America.
Richard W. Lunt
12:32 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
President Obama's fair and balanced America is one of EBT cards, freebees for illegals and the downfall of the housing market, that's integrity at its finest. The Democrats and their policies have ruined our economy just look at the Community Reinvestment Act which was enacted by President Jimmy Carter and pursued heavily by President Bill Clinton, their actions directly resulted in the downfall of the housing marke and then Senator Barack Obama was part of this too.
10:17 am on Friday, January 4, 2013
Fairer and more balanced? That is a good thing? When you take from the rich so the poor can just take, take, take you create a society where achieving is not a goal. Why would anyone want to do anything to make alot of money if they know it will just be taken away? This has happened Before David. Go ask anyone from Austria in the 30's. That was a script we don't want to see repeated but yeah, take religeion of of schools, make medicine free, make college free. Doesn't work man!
10:33 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Richard W. Lunt, "I like that about Republicans; the evidence does not faze them, they are not bothered at all by facts." Bill Clinton 2002. Ranting about President Carter, or abortions, or real rapes is the type of talk that makes people vote Democrat across the board, keep it up Richard!
Richard W. Lunt
10:58 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
I've given you facts here and the Democrats are to blame for our economic conditions, their policies are bad for America and yet we have sheep like you who still vote for anyone with (D) attached to their name. The Democrats and their policies led to the housing market meltdown because they insisted and even took the banks to court if they didn't give out loans to people who were on a low salary, that is the McDonalds worker and the minimum wage worker, who are not credit worthy and could not re-pay those loans. The Democrats and their tax the rich people policies are going to put our economy back into a recession.
11:29 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
I read that story two years ago when it first came out. Is that the story that made you into the right wing fanatic that you are today? Our government is a mess, but it's not all one partys fault. Having the rich pay an equal amount of taxes is only fair but I'm sure you think that's a poor idea.
Richard W. Lunt
11:43 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
The rich are paying more than their fair share, but yet you and the Democrats think otherwise, meanwhile, the rich corporate owners the people who are paying more than their fair share in taxes such as those making 400 thousand dollars a year and over will reduce hiring or become even more picky when they do hire which will lead to high unemployment and more people either on welfare or forced to work at a lousy 12 dollar an hour job which won't make ends meet. The members of your party are to blame!
11:59 am on Thursday, January 3, 2013
I run one of the few factories still open is this area, we are picky about everyone we hire. Every factory in the area is running lean, when someone retires, no one replaces that person. It has nothing to do with how wealthy the owner is, just good business and common sense. 12 bucks an hour is better than nothing, it's what we pay our students, your attitude is why so many are on the dole.
Richard W. Lunt
2:22 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
I know of a person who worked a full time 13 dollar an hour job pushing a mail cart in a corporate office for 12 years while attending college and completing an Associates and a Bachelors degree in order to make a better income, career and a better living. This person was laid off in 2011 and since then, has to compete in this economy. Because of the Democrats policies, companies are forced to be picky when hiring workers even if they can hire, most companies are either eliminating jobs, or giving the jobs that are advertised on their websites and in the help wanted ads, to staff already on the payroll. This is the economy that was created by the Democrats and their tax the rich job creators socialist policies.
3:12 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
This economy was created by the trickle down economics of George W. Bush and his warmonger pal Dick Cheney, your friend has them to thank for his woes in life.
Uncle Crackhead
4:09 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Man yous dont know squat paul. eyes neber got nottin from bush. my homie barak gives me eveything for free. take from the rich and gib to me. hes like obama hood.
Richard W. Lunt
3:54 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Typical liberal wacko always blaming George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and even Ronald Reagan. The trickle down economics or as it is otherwise known as, supply side economics has been successful for over 30 years since Reagan was our President. During 8 years of Ronald Reagan and 4 years of George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, trickle down economics worked, and the economy was robust and people had good jobs. Compare that with Obama's record and tax and spend socialist policies, Obama's policies have failed, just look at the numbers.
Avon Barksdale
4:13 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Richard, don't take out your frustrations due to your own joblessness on poor Mr. Obama.
Richard W. Lunt
4:28 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
President Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and the other liberals created the economy of layoffs and high unemployment in the first place. Get a clue Avon!
Paul christian
9:20 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Richard you're so uneducated, are you not aware that the last for years of Bush's administration they created a 4 trillion dollar debt with unecessary wars? You don't know anything you're an idiot!
Richard W. Lunt
10:53 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
Since the Obama administration has taken office, President Obama increased the debt by another 7 trillion dollars (Bush left office with 9 trillion) making the debt over 16 trillion dollars, that's more than President Bush increased in his 8 years in office!!! President Obama's policies aren't working, and the economy is suffering as a result with high unemployment and an increasing number of people on government assistance and welfare because of a lack of real good paying private sector jobs, and the debt is increasing so you can't blame George W. Bush for that. Unecessary wars? Iraq, maybe; however, the war on terror in Afghanistan was definitely necessary because of 9/11/2001. Perhaps it's you who is the idiot and not me, just saying.....
Richard W. Lunt
11:25 pm on Thursday, January 3, 2013
To add another fact to my earlier post, President Bush began his administration in 2001 with a debt of 5 trillion which was left over from the Clinton administration. Under Bush's Presidency from 2001 to January 20, 2009 when he left office, another 4 trillion was added by the Bush administration therefore making the total debt at that point in time in 2009 9 trillion dollars. President Obama has added another 7 trillion and counting, so I ask you, who is the big spender?? Wait, I will answer that for you, it's President Obama, so how's that hope and change working for you???


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