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6:39 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Greg thinks that Hoffa is sensitive about the third person thing.
St. Swithin
6:41 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Heh. St. Swithin also misses the third person from Hovde. St. Swithin is no longer amused. St. Swithin wonders where Bob Dole went.
6:52 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Third person is at least as annoying as first person plural (Scott Walker). ; )
Jay Sykes
7:23 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
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5:50 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
Well I guess Eric Hovde didn't completely stray from the form. In the listing for this piece by Eric Hovde, Eric Hovde includes this subtitle: "Eric Hovde releases 8-point "Protecting the American Dream" plan."
6:51 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Bren thinks that Eric Hovde has forgotten there's a recession on. Bush and Obama stimulus spending wasn't just a shopping spree and neither was Afghanistan (Iraq is a different conversation entirely).
Bren also thinks that the last thing we need is another ignorant Tea/GOP "personality" candidate holding an important political office. And Bren is also not so certain that the U.S. Senate needs to turn into a circus sideshow like the U.S. Congress (Bren's afraid to look at John Boehner these days, the poor fellow looks red-eyed from being surrounded by the lowest common denominator in his own party).
6:55 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
Bren you lost, your opinion is not wanted anymore, please go away.
8:47 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
I think I'll stay around, if only to correct your punctuation. ; )
Keith Schmitz
8:43 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Yeah Bren, this blog is only for racist, self-loathing putzs like Alfred.
Lyle Ruble
8:40 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
@Eric Hovde....Your trying to be another Ron Johnson and it's not working. Businessman in Madison, isn't that an oxymoron?
9:55 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012
The American Dream is founded in the preservation of freedom, something Obama hates. With each new government law at the local, state, and national level; each new government entitlement funded with some other persons money; and each new government bureaucrat needing to justify a position, the American Dream fades. Obama must be defeated in order to save the American Dream for future generations.
lolo peeg
8:43 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
Pres. Obama doesn't merely hate the preservation of our freedom, he is determined to eliminate it, piece by piece, and he is succeeding in doing so by administrative decree, even without the approval of Congress. One day he says he can't just change laws by decree, next he does it and says he did it because its the "right" thing to do. The timing proves his motive was to pander to a certain class of voters, so he can win in November.
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9:01 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
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How did our education system fail you?
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7:52 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I don't agree with the 'American Dream' initiatives to allow illegals to stay in this country. So Eric, you do not have my support.
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10:00 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
What American Dream? and from who's viewpoint?
The American Dream has been eroding since the 1960's.
watch this: http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2011/06/25/naomi-kleins-alternative-history-of-present-day-capitalism/
Then get the book (same title) and Chris Hayes latest book. "Reading is Fundamental"
9:13 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
so if Eric Hovde has this fantastic 8 point plan for putting our country back on track.... how come he didn't bother to put it out in the open for the amercian public to scrutinize?
8:12 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
ya think if the patch was toting his plan... they would at least PUBLISH the written word! Not a fan of U-tube... sorry!
Bob McBride
8:35 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
Eric Hovde is responsible for the content of Eric Hovde's columns on Patch. Patch only provides the space for Eric Hovde to address all things Eric Hovde.
lolo peeg
8:46 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
Candidate Hovde is not answerable to the "American" public, just the citizens in Wisconsin. No secrets here! I am sure you can learn all you want about his candidacy and views.
9:49 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Yes, Eric, free market healthcare solutions have worked so well for the elderly and the sick in the past.
Please say something to convince me that you are anything other than a tool for the health insurance industry and Big Money corporatists in general.
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10:53 am on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Please say something to convince me that you are anything other than a tool for the health insurance industry and Big Money corporatists in general... Oh you mean like Obama .. Who the heck do you think wrote the Obama health care law .. The insurance companies Duh!!!! .. There has NOT been a free market in Amerika for at least 30 years ... this is crony capatilism on the verge of Fascisim
Johnny Blade
12:12 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Hahaha .. Randy equates free market .. to FREE healthcare for people. Oh but i don't take care of myself and eat like a pig, you the taxpayer should be forced to pay my health care ..
Lyle Ruble
12:22 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
@Johnny Blade...The vast majority of diseases are due to aging. That is why cardiovascular disease and cancer are the leading causes of death in the U.S. Granted that lifestyle diseases are on the rise, but that is a public health problem and are treated as such. Not all disease is based on personal responsibility issues such as you suggest, but on a combination of variables, including genetic disposition. Therefore, your statements are misleading and lend themselves to hyperbole.
3:06 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
No, Johnny Blade, Randy does not equate free market to free healthcare, because there is no such thing as free healthcare. We all pay for it one way or another in the form of taxes, increased costs of goods and services for employer-based health insurance, and higher costs of medical care when doctors and hospitals write off bad debt from those people who can't pay.
Do you, Johnny Blade, pay for your own medical care out of pocket? Do you pay the entire cost of your health insurance policy? How long could you afford to do that if you actually became ill, or when you get older as Lyle has pointed out? Few people who are not independently wealthy can do that.
And who wrote the Obama healthcare bill? The insurance companies, with the help of GOP opposition and some blue-dog Democrats. We needed single-payer or at the very least a public option, but that would have cost the health insurance companies a lot in lost profit.
Johnny Blade
1:34 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Complete BS .. Why not give everyone a FREE House, i cant afford a house .. .. what are we gonna do with the people who can't afford a house when they get older ... Where in the Constitution does it say everyone deserves cost reduced healthcare ... It freakin doesn't ... And Cancer is more of a lifestyle diesease not aging .. Stop eating GMO foods, cheetos, soda and all the BS they peddle on you
So you big government statists feel the government should be able to force me to pay for everybodys healthcare .. you collectivists make me sick .. we need real change not more collectivism
8:54 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Johnny, statistics indicate that the average person requires the most medical treatment in the last 6 months of life (due primarily to age and/or illness). Up until WWII people generally paid for their own health care; afterwards it became a perk offered by employers. When the health insurance industry realized that companies could pay more for insurance premiums than individuals could, prices began to rise (no surprise, the business of business is to make money). Because the elderly are the primary users of medical care, insurers found it more profitable to collect premiums until people needed expensive care, then drop them. Medicare was passed in the early 1960s to ensure that elders received proper care in their golden years.
Because the cost of healthcare was becoming unaffordable by the early 1990s, Bill Clinton tried to get the nation to talk about a national health care plan. It was shot down by special interests and their puppet legislators. Today, U.S. companies must compete on the global market with the added expense of health care premiums. (This might contribute to offshoring.) Millions of Americans cannot afford healthcare at all; millions more fall into debt and/or bankruptcy because of medical expenses not covered by insurance. I broke my leg in 2011. I pay $500+/month for insurance--wasn't covered because of the deductible.
This is precisely the result one would expect when a basic human need (health care) is managed by a for-profit industry.
9:13 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
What do we do when the healthcare provider industry realizes that the government could pay more for medical care than than insurance companies could?
The providing of healthcare services is a business, and I read somewhere that the business of business is to make money...
10:43 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
@Bren -- The average person requires the most expensive healthcare in the last six months of life -- unless you lose the cancer lottery and manage to fight it off for several years. And who among us wouldn't try?
I'm hoping to get lucky and die quickly, but we don't get that choice. I don't want my survivors to be left penniless because the cost of a hospital stay has become so inflated. I'm counting on Medicare for that alone.
As with any well-intentioned program, Medicare is subject to some abuse. Over-use by some people (although this happens with younger people who have good insurance coverage too) and manipulation by opportunists. My mother was sold an electric wheelchair she didn't need 'just in case Medicare will no longer pay for medical equipment' when the time comes. The time is just about here, and she's stuck with a piece of obsolete equipment. I think we could save some money in the Medicare program if we got the sharks out of it.
Dave Koven
12:58 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
I, myself, to use the reflexive for a change, feel that Hovde pretty well summed himself up in his lead sentence. Being in one of the two parties means he is an overspender. It'll cost a bundle for him to get his message out on how we can spend less. "Shared sacrifice?" For the "American Dream" to begin, we could start with coach class travel and eliminating lifetime pensions for elected officials. He does have a nice smile and decent politician's hair...not quite up to the quality of televangelist hair, but not bad. That's about all we'll really know about him, so let the spinning begin.
3:46 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Someone made a comment about cutting Congressmen's pay on Hovde's YouTube page. That's not such a bad idea. If their yearly salary (and that of the President) were capped at the median pay of the US worker, or better yet, minimum wage, we'd see some changed economic policies for sure.
He's got great hair, but when he opens his mouth he makes me embarrassed to be from Wisconsin. I suggest diction lessons. Seriously.
4:15 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
Great idea. We could tie all government sector employee wages to Joe Average. The mayor could make the median wage. The teacher's wages could be tied to the earning capacity of their students. And with minimum wage raised to $174K/year, we all could make as much as Congress. It sounds like a plan, but we may need to iron out a few kinks.
lolo peeg
8:50 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
@ randy, You sure are a pleasant dude. Perfectly willing to make a raunchy comment about someone you don't know, and hide behind the anonymity here.
4:07 pm on Saturday, June 16, 2012
It's time for Herb Kohl to share all his wealth with the little guy. Take away his pension, health care and all the other freebie benefits this 1%er enjoys at our expense. And don't build a stadium for his team.
9:46 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
You want my vote Hovde, here it is.
No more pension or salary for federal legislaters (that should go for state too). Serve on your own merits and wealth.
Term limits (and for state too). Once in and wait it out one term for your next chance. Get rid of the embedded ongoing BS.
Get rid of the Patriot Act. A sucking leech that the private and public sector has been capitalizing on ever since. In addition to castrating the Constitution.
Get rid of the Davis Bacon Act once and for all.
Return the US to a precious metal standard to back our money. Send the Federal Reserve board packing down the road once and for all.
I have plenty more.
Mrs. R
10:37 am on Sunday, June 17, 2012
In other words: rewrite history(esp."precious metal standard) ?
Not going to happen.
And Eric will never ascend to government worker. He lacks the Public Servant image, definitely comes across as high-minded elitist.
He made it big, so he deserves more consideration - uh.... no!
TJ Monday
9:57 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
Eric Hovde would be another Ron Johnson. You get to Washington with an 8 point plan, and you discover others do not have to listen to you like you are a CEO anymore.. At the plastics factory or hedge fund, you shouted the orders, and people listened and acted, or got fired,demoted, or quit. But in the Senate, you are just one of a hundred others, and even your staff thinks you are strange, a fish out of water. Government needs to be more efficient, of course, but it is not a business. For that, we have businesses. Government does what businesses cannot or will not do.
11:01 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
That's the problem with these 'businessmen' candidates. They don't quite comprehend that the government can't be run like a business. The non-productive -- disabled, elderly, poor, unemployed -- are citizens who must have representation too, and they can't simply be downsized and cut loose.
Steve ®
11:30 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
Running a government like a government for the past years hasn't really put us in the best situation. There comes a point when you have to run your finances like a business or you are in very deep trouble. You expect the businesses to provide you with revenue but in exchange you can not manage it correctly, or even pass a budget.
Like it or not the rules of money apply to both principles and we the people are expected to manage it correctly.
Bob McBride
11:32 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
Right, Randy, . Because the lawyers are doing a bang-up job of things.
I've noticed that, despite the generalization, nobody on the left seems to have too much of a problem with Herb Kohl. He's not exactly the sharpest tack in the box, is in the process of utilizing his political connections to benefit his post-political career focus and doesn't possess a toolbox of skills beyond that of the others you have a problem with.
The real issue isn't that Hovde's a businessman. He's just a lot less likely to support smoothing out the bumps on the road of life to the degree that someone like Tammy Baldwin will, cost to do so be damned.
11:52 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Steve -- I prefer the family model to the business model. You have to live within your means, but you don't toss grandma out in the street or let your disabled toddler go without medical treatment just so Dad, the breadwinner, can work fewer hours or afford a membership at a health club.
@Bob McBride -- If corporations and their stockholders are going to increase their profits by laying people off and by paying them less, then they damn well can pony up some taxes to help those people out.
11:57 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
TJ, you're correct about DC being an entirely different world (I have lived in the metro DC/northern VA area). I believe quite a few freshman congressmen/women show up with big goals about cutting spending, then learn about all of the wonderful DC perks for U.S. representatives. These represent top-tier chop opportunities, but somehow these never get touched. Anyone dense enough to go after the perks will find themselves on the outs with all of the representatives who like them.
The Tea/GOP'rs naively believe they are going to clean up Dodge when they land in town; that they know somehow know things that the old buzzards do not. No one cares to be treated as if they are unintelligent, that does not go over well. Everyone knows everyone else in DC, the place is awash with rumor and has a taste for gossip ("If you don't have something nice to say about someone, come sit next to me.") The sad fact is, the buzzards are very happy with the status quo.
Ron Johnson went into office with no idea of how things work. The rumors are that he is abusive to staff and that other Republican staffers were working to get his staff out of there and somewhere else. The embarrassing rumor that he was about to fire his entire staff surfaced and he had to play damage control.
Our government more closely resembles a nonprofit service agency as it is intended to serve its members/constituents, not profiteer. The for-profit mindset is too narrow for the job.
11:58 am on Monday, June 18, 2012
Every business that I have run has both assets and liabilities. Keeping the ratio correct is the clue to success. Contrary to the left's policies, this country can not run with just liabilities.
Bob McBride
1:01 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Bob McBride -- If corporations and their stockholders are going to increase their profits by laying people off and by paying them less, then they damn well can pony up some taxes to help those people out.
And who, ultimately, do you think ends up paying the taxes when corporations have theirs increased, Randy? Are you gambling that it's unlikely to be you? Don't be so sure.
I realize that, for you, this is all about shifting costs away from you and onto just about anyone but you (re: your support of the ACH and desire to shift the cost of schools from your property taxes to someone else's incomes taxes), but in the long run it's still going to come back to bite you you-know-where - if we don't do something about containing costs at the point of origin.
1:16 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@McBride -- When some entities have their taxes lowered, other taxpayers end up paying more. I agree with fiscal responsibility, but your side always wants to make the cuts on social spending and leave the military alone. Why? Because military spending is profitable.
Bob McBride
1:49 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
I'm fine with cutting the military spending. Your side wants to cut only that, apply the savings to more government programs, and cost shift the rest onto folks other than yourselves.
Did you not come out in favor of shifting the cost for schools from property taxes to income taxes? How does dilution of the source of funding encourage those voting on expenditures to look at things from a cost effective basis? Or do you just not care, as long as the burden is lifted off of your back?
You still have yet to explain how businessman Herb Kohl is anymore knowledgeable or forthright than Hovde or Johnson - other than having gleaned a limited amount of information from being in the office for as long as he has. Did you vote for Herb last time around?
2:01 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Bob McBride -- I'm in favor of shifting the school funding back to where it was before it was shifted onto property taxes from income taxes. That seems fair enough. Other than that, yes, they should think about spending less money on frills and actually teaching the kids to read.
I'm definitely willing to take a look at fraud and overspending within the social programs, because it does exist.
But at the very least, you don't see me making money like Diane Hendricks and whining about how much I have to pay.
Bob McBride
2:18 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Once again, Randy, once you remove the incentive to spend less, how do you expect to cause that to occur? As it stands now, we have people voting for ridiculous expansions that, if they had more skin in the game, they'd be unlikely to approve. Not only do I think property tax should remain the source for school expenditures, I'd like to see additional fees charged to those who actually have kids in the schools and assure than any increases related to expenditures be proportionally tacked on to those fees as well.
It's all well and good to say you're for more efficient and effective schooling, but it stops there unless there's a distinct penalty for not actually doing something about it.
As for Diane Hendricks, who honestly cares? Playing on envy so that folks like you support "stick it to them" taxing that, ultimately, ends up costing all of us more does nothing to address the cost issues.
Once again, I'd suggest you attend some of your local board meetings just to see what I've seen there. Maybe if it started hitting a few more people where it really hurts, the du***ss, costly, inefficient decision making would at least be slowed a bit, if not eliminated.
3:07 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Greg, a nonprofit organization also has assets and liabilities; I believe the fundamental difference is primarily in revenue sources (earned + contributed). Tax revenue funds government. Like a nonprofit it provides services and material goods.
In the nonprofit model, programs are cut when insufficient revenue (contracts, donations, etc.) is received. The conundrum in our government funding issue is that taxpayers provide the revenue that provides services for taxpayers, the importance of which have been predetermined.
The obvious, practical solutions to our problems include 1) Understand why Grover Norquist et al "feel" that, for the first time in U.S. history, direct tax increases must end (I write "feel" because this is not a society-advancing position in my view) 2) Prioritize client needs. (Ex. Economic/national security). 3. Re-imagine taxation as an incentive for corporate citizens to remain U.S.-focused. There is a happy medium between generating profit and keeping the U.S. economy strong. With a little less greed in the mix, that middle ground will be achieved.
There will always be people who don't get the "big picture." Instead of pandering to the political and social fringe (below and above the curve), we need to focus on what's best for the center (working and middle class families), and the rest will follow.
Undoubtedly the special interest groups will have some thoughts on this...
James R Hoffa
5:15 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Bren -
So, the only way you see us advancing as a society is if we continue to grow the size and scope of government, while decreasing individual freedoms and liberties?
Isn't that the exact opposite of the principles upon which this nation was founded?
9:07 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Mr. Hoffa, how on earth did you derive that idea from my comments? My post was all about reviewing and re-engineering our existing tools. George W. Bush hired more federal employees than any president since Eisenhower. Despite this, Homeland Security is still not what it could/should be. This department also needs to be reviewed/improved.
The problem isn't that government is "too big." We are self-governing, after all. It's that special interests and their puppet legislators interfere in its efficient operation. Stop the earmarks and the ludicrous subsidies (Ex. oil). Voters need to remove corrupted legislators. But as long as there are pockets to be lined, government corruption will continue. All one can really hope for is to dial it back.
lolo peeg
9:00 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
@ randy. OK, but the way your party is running the government is flushing the entire nation down the tube. We need to change how the government is run, and get it out of our hair and off our backs.
Lyle Ruble
9:16 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012
@lo lo peeg...You seem obsessed with government interference in your life. What is it specifically that government is preventing you from doing?
Jay Sykes
1:57 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Randy Sez... " If corporations and their stockholders are going to increase their profits by laying people off and by paying them less, then they damn well can pony up some taxes to help those people out"
On the aggregate profits swing wildly, as measured on a year to year basis. However, If you draw a post WWII regression line, starting in 1947, profits as a percent of the GDP are nearly flat(a slight upward bias). While it clearly not good for the american worker, outsourcing to cheaper labor counties does not appear to create a dramatic increase in corporate profits. http://seekingdelta.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/11-19_chart1_corp-profit-to-gdp2.png
2:55 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Eric is reaching the big-time. He has an article about him on HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/eric-hovde-sob-stories-poor-people_n_1605343.html
Mrs. R
3:43 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
That's on sorry attempt at reaching voters. :)
@randy1949 - I like the "frills" in education and the property tax paying for 'public' education. We are a society of competition.
I lived in a good school district despite the extra housing expense for my children's sake. It turned out well for my parenting goals.
I must remind people over and over, as we grow old, the level and quality of the younger generations education will effect the quality of care in our old age.
Think future, not immediate outcomes.
We have lost so much, now save the future of America please.
Voters are so less educated today (en mass) that our generation can only focus on the next.
3:54 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Mrs. R -- Don't you think that taxation should bear some relationship to a person's ability to pay? Property taxes can hit seniors and farmers unfairly. Do children living in areas of low property valuation deserve less of an education? No, that's why we had federal and state aids to education to even the playing field somewhat.
I'm puzzled as to how I managed to become literate in an era when the property taxes were so much more reasonable. I haven't changed districts either.
Mrs. R
4:10 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
I don't think I am in your district.
That said, I watched others choose for immediate gratification: new clothes, cars, vacations, hair care, make-up, lots of extras.
I did the opposite. We had a nice sized city garden and I sewed clothes. I wasn't even raised that way. I had an education that included 'creativity' (a frill?).
I wanted my children to have better than I, and they had better and different.
The elderly do pay forward (early on) , so maybe we'd be (oh well) making a new tax law to give them a break.
However, the elderly I knew planned ahead, down-sized and had saved in a safer saving environment.
So, you are saying the Federal gov. education program should be upheld, reinforced and not fleeced by the present sitting governors?
4:34 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Mrs. R -- I'm saying two things. Our Governor should not collect our money and 'balance the budget' by keeping more of it and leaving it to the local level to make up. And we should take a very hard look at why we are spending so much more per pupil and getting an inferior result in reading ability, math and science.
My primary and secondary education contained 'frills' like music and art classes, but they happened in older buildings. The tax levy at the time did not cost an arm and a leg.
James R Hoffa
5:11 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Randy1949 -
"Our Governor should not collect our money and 'balance the budget' by keeping more of it and leaving it to the local level to make up."
Umm… in case you didn't realize it, the reason we're having to do that now is primarily because of the debt that prior Governors Thompson, McCallum, and especially Doyle accrued for us. Don't blame Walker for doing the responsible thing, instead, blame those who were spending more than they were taking in that left us with this mess.
Or do you want to just keep making things worse for wage earners by increasing their taxes, while continuing to kick the can down the road for our children to deal with, just so long as it doesn't affect you in an adverse way? That must be what you want, as after all, you supported Barrett, and that's exactly what he continues to do in Milwaukee - raise income taxes and borrow even more money that our children will eventually have to pay off.
So, what exactly is your issue with wanting to raise taxes on our current wage earning taxpayers, who are already the 7th most heavily taxed in the country, and our future generations, that you want to saddle them with even more debt, just so your personal tax burden doesn't go up?
That's kind of selfish, isn't it?
5:15 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Yes, Hoffa, it is kind of selfish. You Republicans are finally beginning to convert me.
James R Hoffa
5:20 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Randy1949 -
Please, don't call me a Republican - I'm an independent conservative Vulcan (courtesy of Greg).
Lyle Ruble
3:28 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
The problem with business/corporatists serving in government is that business institutions are based on utilitarian and structuralist principles. Just as Randy has pointed out, you can't run government like you run a business. Let's face it, government doesn't produce anything and is designed to deliver service, which has costs associated with providing such services. Demand for services, rarely if ever, decreases and most likely increases based on what downward economic cycles. As demand for services increases during tough economic times, revenue sources are decreases creating an ever widening gap between service demand and available resources. One advantage that government has over any other social institution is that it can increase revenues even during down economic periods. This defies all utilitarian business models and as such makes it difficult for those schooled in business to know how to manage government.
Probably, the best training for politicians who will end up as managers of government is that of a non-profit service organization. Here is where the skills needed for governing are present. Demand for services remain unchanged or increase and revenues fluctuate based on available funds. This is why politicians that come out of business usually aren't very good at governing. It is a mistake to elect someone who only knows how to manage money in the business setting. Senator Johnson is a prime example along with other T'P'ers.
Jay Sykes
4:32 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Well then Lyle, it looks like Lawyers,Business People and Community Organizers all fail at government;anyone else out there and available.
Lyle Ruble
5:42 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Jay Sykes...Why take my statement to extremes. What I am trying to say is that certain perspectives do not make the best people to govern.
8:42 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
I know more businessmen that know how government works, than politicians that know how business works.
Lyle Ruble
8:55 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Greg....What is so significant about whether a businessman knows how government works or not? Equally, why is it so important for a politician to know how business works? Two different things altogether requiring different skills. For one thing, business is not a democracy whereas our political system is a representative democracy. Business is based on profit, government is not; it is based on effective and efficient service delivery. Finally, just because you know how something works doesn't mean you're fit to govern.
9:32 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
"Politicians immediately begin talking about "sharing the pain" and cutting benefits. That is wrong! We should defend the benefits and cut the costs of the
programs in overhead, administration, duplication of efforts and wastes. That is the businessman's approach to stop the bleeding in a program going bankrupt. Now is the time to let business owner's show what we can do with government."
This may be the road to effective and efficient service delivery. The politicians have not been doing a very good job.
Lyle Ruble
10:22 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Greg...Business has bled this country dry, shipped jobs overseas, created the real estate bubble, created the Dot Com bubble, etc.; and we should trust business to lead us out of the mess they created. Business can't be trusted and they only know how to operate in an environment where it requires operating within a structure absent of democratic principles. Business is used to singularity of utilitarian purpose focused through an oligarchical structure. One characteristic of a dictatorship and oligarchy is that they are very efficient and effective, but it means giving up personal and communal rights.
Bob McBride
6:17 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Lyle, lawyers, scientists and engineers created the situation by which the exodus of jobs from this country was accelerated (Clinton - NAFTA and favored nation status for China - the internet, the tech boom) and American consumers specifically rewarded those businesses that achieved lower pricing by taking advantage of the situation.
Picking out one element of the mix and declaring that those involved in it are incapable of being involved in governance because they're to blame for where we find ourselves today is simplistic thinking at best. You can do better than that.
Lyle Ruble
6:33 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
@Bob McBride...Agreed that I was very simplistic in my comment. However, scientists and engineers are directly responsible for the offshoring. They provide the techology but it is business interests that take that technology and manufacture something. I hold the consumer equally responsible for buying into a market based on cheap goods. Those of you who supported supply side economics and trickle down were the ones pushing for free trade agreements. These were all business motivated decisions and look where we are now, paying the piper.
I don't think we can continue the model of governance that business proposes and people who want to put their trust in business leaders are playing the fool.
Bob McBride
7:09 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Lyle, the free trade agreements were signed off on by a president your side put in office and supported through an impeachment proceeding. Currently, the president your side is supporting has given you this:
Your side, the side of the 99%, the side that rails about corporatism and influence and supply side economics and on and on and on can't seem to keep from making the situation worse itself. The only difference seems to be that with the Republicans, they're pretty straightforward with what they're going to do, while the Democrats tell you one thing to get your vote and then turn around and do precisely the opposite behind your back.
The net results are what count, Lyle. Not whether or not a candidate comes from the business community, the rarified air of academia or the practice of law. You don't have to look very far or think very hard to see that.
Hold your own accountable first. The Eric Hovde's of the world will take care of themselves, courtesy of the glare of 24/7 media attention and the ubiquitous camera phone.
11:46 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
"Business is used to singularity of utilitarian purpose focused through an oligarchical structure."
Talk about a periphery tug.
Lyle Ruble
12:59 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
@Bob McBride...Make no mistake; I was never a supporter of Bill Clinton, NAFTA, and the termination of AFDC. My first meeting with him in 1990 convinced me that he was a corrupted personality. That aside, our national history has proven that over the last forty years that business has gotten the "bit in their teeth" and have been running without anyway to successfully stop. You and I lived through the "rust belt" recession, then the Savings & Loan debacle, followed by the Dot Com bubble, and needless to say the real estate collapse. I honestly don't see how you can defend business's track record and think that leaders that come out of business hold the answers for taking us out of the mess that business friendly politicians and business leaders put us in.
Bob McBride
1:33 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
" I honestly don't see how you can defend business's track record and think that leaders that come out of business hold the answers for taking us out of the mess that business friendly politicians and business leaders put us in."
That's not what I'm defending and not what I think. I'm saying making a blatant statement that people with a business background can't successfully govern or haven't the sensibility to operate in that environment is nothing more than the kind of simplistic categorization that results in nothing but endless nonsensical arguments.
I don't think that business is the be all and end all. I don't think that because one is successful in business they'll be able to govern effectively at a particular level. Substitute educator/lawyer/physician/NPO director/community organizer/career politician or any other designation in there and the statements are equally as true.
Suggesting that it's been the nebulous entity known as a whole as "business" that has caused us to end up where we are is not only simplistic, it's disingenuous and actually harmful when trying to arrive at a way of addressing many of the issues we're now dealing with.
Mrs. R
3:45 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
The demand is for services, protections, and equality for all!
James R Hoffa
4:54 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Equality of opportunity - yes, but not equality of outcome.
Lyle Ruble
5:54 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@JRH...When we truly have equality of opportunity then I might agree with you.
Keith Schmitz
8:39 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Right now we don't have an opportunity society, but a society for opportunists.
Victor Drover
3:54 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
I'm not sure why we have to settle for dreams in the first place. I don't want a future where my children "dream" of having a good-paying job, heath benefits and a safe work place. I want them to "have" those things, not to fantasize about them.
Mrs. R
4:32 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@ Victor Drover
Maybe you will find your way of providing a foundation for your children to live in that world we (I) thought we were living in not too long ago.
For me, it's always been self-sacrifice. I didn't have much domestic support. Husband assumed everything was 'fine' all the time. He's 66 now and sort of 'waking up'.
It's nice see a father concern in wanting the best for his children and their future.
My heartfelt good wishes for you and your family.
Alfred Kell
5:33 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
personally i would rather have a guy like Hovde in charge than failed business men like Rube, Randy and Oblameo
Lyle Ruble
5:59 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
@Alfred Kell...You are so brilliant and your comments are so profound. Thanks for sharing your insights.
Keith Schmitz
8:38 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Alfred, you mean like this guy that Walker appointed to be his economic development director in the waning days of his time as county executive? http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2010/oct/15/tom-barrett/tom-barrett-says-gubernatorial-rival-scott-walker-/
9:14 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Yes Alfred Kell. We are much better off with fellows like Scott Walker, whose imposition of furlough on county staff was found to be illegal and is now costing Milwaukee County $ 4 million+ in restitution. That's on top of the $1 million+ that his illegal firing of county courthouse security guards cost (back pay plus $90,000+/month contract to a non-US private security firm-Wackenhut).
Perhaps you prefer ignorance and opportunism to be your guiding light; I do not.
Dirk Gutzmiller
7:17 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Even though a U.S. Senator from Wisconsin can technically be recalled, Ron Johnson just has been plain inept and ill-suited to the job. Better have him in there than an activist demogogue like Rep. Paul Ryan, who seems to be courting disaster in his economically depressed district.
7:25 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
255 pages of comments and counting. What a welcome for Eric Hovde to national attention. He'll be eating his dinner off the mantel.
Steve ®
7:47 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
It's a liberal circle jerk. It's all they have left after getting demolished in past elections.
Mrs. R
8:23 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
I think he's truly nuts. But it's scary to think other's find him normal
9:06 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
He could have told people to get a thing-a-ma-jig for their furnace, but that would have sounded really stupid.
James R Hoffa
11:06 pm on Monday, June 18, 2012
Sorry Lyle, but Steve hit the nail on the head on this one!
HuffPo is clearly liberal biased - I once had an account there, but they refused to post over 80% of the comments I made, ergo, I quit trying. Their comment boards are nothing but a complete joke - it's just a bunch of liberals congratulating themselves for being so much more intelligent than everyone else, who they view as being complete morons, much like the Daily Kos crowd. Legitimate news source, it definitely IS NOT!
Here's a beauty from the front page of their comment board on the Hovde story that is wholly representative of the sentiments of the mass that comment there, and exemplifies my point:
"How stupid are you required to be to run for the Senate in the embarrassing state of Wisconsin?"
Amazing how when liberals thought they could win the Wisconsin recall elections, we were the great progressive hope. But now that liberals lost that election, they see our state as an embarrassment - really?!?! Doesn't that make you and other Wisconsin lefties upset that your fellow national lefties now see you as being part of an embarrassment? Remind me again what side it is that's being divisive…
I rest our case!
9:18 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
As I have written before, Steve claims to be a "job creator" and I suggest that he must be an "interesting" sort of boss. He's mentioned this type of activity more than once...
10:29 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
@JRH -- I can't imagine why most of your posts failed to pass moderation at HuffPo. ;)
Yes, HuffPo is the left-leaning version of Patch -- people behaving crudely, for the most part.. There are a few who keep it aboveboard.
I will confess that when even Jon Stewart made us the object of ridicule on June 6, I felt as if I'd learned the lesson to not even try to right things I saw going wrong. The Democratic party has seen the last donation from me
Lyle Ruble
6:04 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
@JRH...What did I claim in support of Huffington Post? You sure you're not referring to someone else?
Keith Schmitz
8:31 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
One (Mo)Ron for senator in Wisconsin is enough.
The Donny Show
9:38 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Speaking of Morons and Moronic moves....Hows the loan repayment coming along?
Mrs. R
9:55 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
May see some improvement in the mortgage loan mess soon.
At least the Banks found robo signing less productive and now are making more foreclosures a reality. Are you happy about that?
what's your answer to the problem?
I don't know enough to say one way or the other on that subject.
Other's pretend they know more about what is going on than they do.
Amazing talk without true insight or factual, complete information.
10:23 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
The outrageous thing about robo-signing is that it caused some foreclosures on people who weren't even in default. Imagine the financial nightmare of scrimping in this economy to pay the mortgage and losing your home anyway. Pure carelessness and greed.
11:09 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Pay your house off, stop being a debt zombie and own your own future. Problem solved.
11:38 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
I don't know about you, Alfred, but my house is paid for (never had a mortgage on it) and I've never taken out a loan in my life. Can you say the same? Can anyone in this society say the same other than a very lucky few?
Johnny Blade
10:30 am on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
The American dream ... to be forced to pay for things you don't support or believe in thru unconstitutional tax schemes all for the benefit of the Bankers .. and you got the collectivists screamin for more blood money .... Hmmmm Boston TEA PARTY anyone
Mrs. R
12:01 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Why is Eric attacking the poor?
Does that really attract all our Rich citizens to vote him in?
He's interesting 'cause he's yakkin' too much!
Ron Johnson sat, mostly mute, during two debates with Feingold.
And his non-talking (Rommney's stated strategy on C-SPAN)
unnerved me and visibly caused ire in Russ.
12:14 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
By saying he 'prays' the media will stop posting sob-stories about poor people and their economic problems and focusing on what will happen to 'everyone' if his policies aren't followed. In other words, he knows his policies will cause even more hardship for the have-nots, but it's for the good of the 'country' -- people like him and the Chamber of Commerce types he's talking to.
Steve ®
12:40 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Hum... The rest of us see solid orange and you call it purple with polka dots.
Mrs. R
12:46 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
And "spin" it truly is. Let's close our eyes to others problems, only think of the whole?
There are more of us than them. WE are the "whole country" too. And it is US vs. Them. They wanted "war". Republicans used the 'war' word first and on the house floor (I watch C-Span alot).
Facts and knowledge has been hard to come by, if you're a busy person concentrating on day to day survival.
People don't have time or energy to dig.
I am reluctantly retired (medical disability).
I have been following PBS, C-SPAN, and shows that big corporations don't have a tightrope to string for their political pundits.
The main shows allow a tiny nugget of fact and you have to dig out the story for yourself.
We lost free public airways and the control purely through the greed of politicians acting in bad faith.
Alec Rules
2:50 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Steve ® is a trademark of ALEC and the National Mining Association. All technology associated with this robo-troll is strictly protected by the Liberia Patent Office and concealed carry.
3:09 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
Awe, now you did it. Any reference to CC results in a two paragraph rant about how we just want to kill everyone.
Mrs. R
4:02 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
"We Must Protect the American Dream"
tom sheramn
6:46 pm on Tuesday, June 19, 2012
first i am not a democrat. but republican waste has existed in the past. did mr hovde ever criticize any of it then.? almost every war and/or has been of no value what did mr hovde say about going into iraq or afghanistan? senator johnston thought star wars was a great idea what would hovde say about sdi now or then. what does hovde want to cut from the military now.?. a bush boondoggle was not allowing our government to bid on drug prices an estimated 1/2 trillion $ gift to the drug companies. what did hovde say about that at the time?
as for the american dream i could care less. i think the best thing is to have the gnp go down as the environmental and social costs of having the gnp go up are greater than the value of the production. see ezra mishan's "growth & technology the price we pay"


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The 12th annual National American Legion College got under way Sunday, Oct. 24 in Indianapolis, training 54 Legionnaires from 31 departments to be future leaders of the organization.
The program enhances knowledge and appreciation of The American Legion, and it teaches the core values and contributions of the organization, the American Legion Auxiliary, Sons of The American Legion and many subordinate programs. The overall expertise gained during the classroom and small group sessions prepares young Legionnaires for leadership positions in posts, districts, counties and departments through education, development and motivation. The curriculum challenges the upcoming leaders to think critically and creatively about issues confronting the Legion.
National and department Legion staff and past Legion College graduates lead students through a number of classroom lectures, as well as small group sessions, with an emphasis on management techniques and leadership skills necessary to increase visibility of Legion programs, growth in membership, and public awareness of the Legion and its corresponding organizations.
Legion College chancellor and Past National Commander Butch Miller addressed the 54 Legionnaires Sunday, reminding them to maintain a level head and use tools learned during Legion College to promote The American Legion and its programs.
Throughout the weeklong program, the students will learn how to write resolutions, interact with the media, write strategic plans and develop public speaking skills. The objective of the small group sessions this year is to give students an opportunity to develop department level training classes.
And before the students graduate from Legion College on Friday, Oct. 29, American Legion National Adjutant Daniel Wheeler and National Commander Jimmie L. Foster will address the students during one of their individual small groups.
For more information on The American Legion National College, contact Matt Herndon at (317) 630-1406.
It is a sad day when one has nothing better than this type of comment toward an Organization or it's members striving for the advancement of our nations veterans, military and National history.
I am a veteran of US Army my children fathers was a disable American Vietnam Veteran however they are not receiving benefits. I've tried over the years to get them there benefits they are 14 yrs old now Can someone guide me in the right direction. My father was also a disable USA veteran as well..
Also would like to thank The American Legion for the recent help they gave us in Oct. 2010. If i could join I would but currently i am unemployed and looking for work. Thank You
I couldnt find more informaton on the requirements and fees and location on attending the American Legion College, would someone send me a link to where I could find the information that I'm seeking
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Sgt. D: Did you get any more informaton on the requirements, fees, and location for the American Legion College?
I found the phone number with the contact name and left a message but havn't heard back yet. Has the Post in your area given you more information yet? Let me know, I'm interested too.
Name and phone number I found:
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A University of Florida police officer who works with the football team has been exonerated in the case of a disappearing police report involving a player.
Lt. William Gainey had been placed on administrative leave in connection with the failure of a police report to be initially filed in a Nov. 14 case involving a seatbelt violation.
Gainey has been exonerated as the result of an investigation and returned to work, UF spokeswoman Janine Sikes said today. Sikes was unable to provide a copy of the investigation, saying that it was done but a report had not yet been completed.
The case involved involving redshirt freshman offensive lineman Jessamen Dunker, 19, being cited for failing to wear a seatbelt while driving on campus. A police report said that Dunker repeatedly used expletives in arguing with police about the citation.
Police reported that Dunker initially refused to provide his name, even after an officer threatened to arrest him and forward the case to his coaches and the student conduct office.
"I don't give a (expletive) about all that, it's over a (expletive) seatbelt ticket," Dunker said, according to a police report.
Dunker eventually relented in giving his name and was cited, but a police report on the case for some reason disappeared before later being filed.
Gainey supervised the officer who issued the citation, coordinates security at special events and works as a police liaison to the football team. A spokesman for the UF athletic association said that officials there asked for no special treatment.
Sikes said no other officers are being investigated in connection with the case. I'll have a full story on the case once UF provides a report on the investigation into Gainey.


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HUNTINGTON – A Mingo County man was sentenced to four years and two months in federal prison for oxycodone possession Monday by United States District Chief Judge Robert C. Chambers. Terry Kevin Steele, 42, of Mingo County, previously pleaded guilty in May 2012 to possession with intent to distribute a quantity of oxycodone.
On November 17, 2011, deputies with the Cabell County Sheriff's Department responded to a robbery complaint at the Super 8 Motel in Huntington. At the time, deputies approached the defendant who subsequently consented to a search of his room which he had rented. Law enforcement seized a total of 1,379 oxycodone tablets in varying strengths as well as a .38 caliber revolver. Steele admitted that he possessed the oxycodone tablets and intended to sell the tablets to individuals in Mingo County.
This case was prosecuted as part of an ongoing effort led by the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of West Virginia to combat the illicit sale and misuse of prescription drugs.


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Stofile stuck in past
26 Jul 2007
Keo, in his Independent Newspaper column, asks why Minister of Sport Makhenkesi Stofile is willing to accept the Proteas as representative of a new South Africa, but not the Springboks?
Stofile remains adamant the Springbok World Cup squad does not represent South Africa as a new country.
He said it was proof South African rugby was stuck in the past.
Springbok coach Jake White included one ethnic black African and five coloured players in his World Cup squad of 30 – a number government officials said was not enough.
Rewind a few months to the cricket World Cup. The Proteas receive the following message: "Go out there and represent South Africa with dignity. We believe in you and we will be behind you as you stand toe-to-toe with Australia next week." Yes, the same Stofile sent this message to a cricket side that did not contain one ethnic black player in the starting XI.
Staying with cricket, government officials and cricket administrators lauded the squad composition ahead of the World Cup. Seven players of colour in 15 was viewed as a dramatic breakthrough for transformation, but only one of those seven players was black African – Makhaya Ntini.
The window-dressing exercise at the cricket World Cup was completed when Roger Telemachus did not play a game, Loots Bosman played in one and the first choice slow bowler Robin Peterson bowled less overs than part-time spinner and captain Graeme Smith.
Prior to the tournament Smith told the media he believed in every player's ability, but he obviously didn't, otherwise Peterson would have bowled more. Telemachus did not bowl a ball in the West Indies, Peterson bowled just 72 and Bosman, picked as a batsman, never batted. Cricket's transformation of the squad was a lie, which the government was willing to embrace.
Transformation in South African rugby since unification in 1991 has been a farce. We all know that, but it does not start with the selection of the national squad. A coach can only choose from the players available and in this light the squad is very representative of South African rugby's player demographics.
This past weekend only seven ethnic black Africans started in eight premier division Currie Cup sides. Only five of these players are eligible to play for the Boks. When it comes to black African selection White is effectively picking from a pool of less than 10 and not 40 million who make up South Africa's population.
The government should be condemning South African rugby's failure to transform and should be demanding change at a domestic level. Instead all the criticism is irrationally levelled at the national squad. Cricket, no better than rugby when it comes to transformation, never feels the wrath of the Sports Minister or his colleagues. Why?
Is it because cricket was traditionally seen as an English sport and rugby as that of the Afrikaner? Does cricket get away with it because of the so-called white liberal association and rugby gets caned because of so-called Afrikaans conservatives?
If South African sport is to be transformed and representative of a new country then the sports ministry's attitude has to be consistent to all sports, including cricket and soccer.
If Stofile believed so much in a cricket team devoid of black African representation, why can he not believe in a rugby team accused of a similar failing?
The answer could be that he, like rugby, is stuck in the past.
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26 Jul 2007, 17:24 pmGBS
Sorry I just went back there. I must be getting dumber by the day. I sent you a massage.
26 Jul 2007, 17:29 pmskunk
So you guys are still on then?
Face to face is better than here.
Let's do the business. -
26 Jul 2007, 17:29 pmSkunk,
If your name starts with an X…….. I replied via mail……. phone me!
26 Jul 2007, 17:33 pm201 – Sent him a massage? You and GBS are really getting to know each other well.
26 Jul 2007, 17:36 pmmirrag almal. Hoe lyk dinge?
26 Jul 2007, 17:39 pmhahaha Katman
beat me to it
26 Jul 2007, 17:40 pmPietman,
What's up with GBS and skunk? What are those okes up to?
26 Jul 2007, 17:43 pmGBS is trying to figure out how to send Skunk a hug as an attachment.
26 Jul 2007, 17:46 pm207# Loerie Awards, Margate, and some serious rugby going down…!
All for a good cause.
Patience boys, you will have full report by Monday. -
26 Jul 2007, 17:46 pmwateva u dumb idiot! politicians shoul piss off and leave sa rugby.. we need to reamain as the boks and the best playas will play for F%%KS sake!
26 Jul 2007, 17:55 pmGBS
I've just replied to your mail. I will call you tomorrow.
26 Jul 2007, 17:57 pmKatman
You might also be interested in my idea.
26 Jul 2007, 17:57 pmOK then boys, now that everyone is all friendly, I will bow out and take the missus to dinner.
See you okes around.
And don't forget, all the roads lead to Bethlehem this weekend.
That is in the OFS.
In the good old R of SA.
The place to be. -
26 Jul 2007, 17:59 pmcheers Piet
see you around
26 Jul 2007, 18:03 pmCheers Piet!
26 Jul 2007, 18:11 pmskunk, tell me about it at email@example.com
26 Jul 2007, 22:12 pmDoes Stofile even know what the public think….
We are a big group of blacks. Zulu's, Xhosa's, Sotho's, coloureds….etc and we are not of the same opinion as Stofile…
White people support Bafana with 1 white goalie?!?
Wake up man….blacks are not the sorry *** victims as the perception Stofile and likes are creating out there…
If the blacks that are there don't cut it…they should not play…as long as the same goes for the white players….I'm all for it…
And all the best for the Springboks….
26 Jul 2007, 22:25 pmaaah, skunk, odogg et al,
now i get it at last. so it's not about facilities or anything else groundroots. its all about money for the brothers – i.e. s14 or bok contacts.
seems like the "africa disease" has reached sa earlier than expected.
what's "africa disease" do i hear you say?
well, simply, it's what happens to african countries after they gain indepenence – simply they blame all their woes on their former colonial masters instead of focusssing inwards at the actual problems like fraud, lack of service delivery, personal bank accounts etc.
thanks anyway for clearing things up! -
26 Jul 2007, 22:35 pm218 – charo it seems you are right. It is a pitty that we choose to follow Africa's example instead of Singapore. For me the saddest thing is the potential we have in SA, but with this attitude will we never get anywhere.
26 Jul 2007, 22:42 pmI'll tell you where the attitude is lacking, its in the great divide, I see all of you slating each other from far flung positions of huge division, not even a hint at any reconciliation, just you blaming them and them blaming you, so you really reckon you have some humanity in you? At all? I'm searching to try and find some vestige of it, just a wee trace of some sincere human understanding and compassion and insight. Its because there is still a mountain you have to climb just to gain a small iota of the maturity you profess to possess, unfortunately your lack of insight out strips your vision, and your dogma is steeped in racial prejudice. Pity, great big pity.
26 Jul 2007, 22:49 pm220 – Skopskiet howzit
Look I am not some rightwinger that emigrated and are then dikbek over the whole situation.
We both want the same for SA, and SA rugby – to be sucsess. We just differ about the way it should be done.
26 Jul 2007, 22:53 pmskopskiet,
very good point man but i am afraid you speak from a point of inexperience and possibility naivety.
i have lived or worked in probably 75% of sub-saharan africa and the culture is not that different from that shown by odogg and his minions.
i am happy that you believe that all can be overcome here in sa between whites and blacks but it will never be that way – sorry to say.
mbeki has set the tone – "i am an african" and the acceptable level of service delivery – police, hospitals, courts, schooling has followed suite.
fortunately, i am the md of a british shipping company here and both my wife and i have uk passports so we will, regretably, leave when the likes of odogg get out of hand.
very regretably, since this is a beautiful country otherwise. -
26 Jul 2007, 22:54 pmHello LondonBul, I'm not wanting to judge you or anyone here, I am just commenting on what I see, and what I see is left and right, black and white severe marginalization not getting any nearer to one another in 15 years of participation, if anything I see you all drifting further apart.
26 Jul 2007, 22:57 pmYou say you are African, which African will gladly leave his mother country in search of greener pastures if he sees that it is economically beneficial to immigrate rather than build the nation he so loves?
26 Jul 2007, 23:00 pm223 – skopskiet, we have a difficult situation in SA. I just think this government has got its priorities wrong. I think the main reason for the divide is not a more white Bok team, but the economic differences. Once you sort that out, a lot of other issues will be sorted. When last did you hear about an economically sucessfull country having these issues?
I think the politicians are doing a **** job in governing the country, a lot of blacks are still piss poor. Now they are taking the heat of them by focusing attention on the demographics of the Springboks. I bit like Mugabe in fact.
26 Jul 2007, 23:01 pm#224 I'll be leaving soon too; purely for monetary reasons.
26 Jul 2007, 23:07 pmRugby is really a minor issue, believe me the bulk of our population couldn't give two hoots who is in the springbok team, if you had to ask them who are the springboks the majority of them wouldn't even know wtf you talking about, the next loaf of bread on their table is of far more valuable importance than how many whites/blacks are representative in the springbok team. We make it far more an issue than most of the population here.
26 Jul 2007, 23:10 pmskopskiet,
it is difficult to invest time and capital to a continent that has failed in every way.
i know sa is currently different and there is much that is positive but when i read posts like that of odogg and azza, i feel a sense of hopelessness for the white man here – much like the sense that eventually this dark continent will revert back to its primitive rooots. -
26 Jul 2007, 23:12 pm227 – Exactly
The crime is horendous, the economy can do much, much beter and they harp on about this. And I really don't understand why the Springboks are the only team in the world that have to do "nation buiilding". Isn't that the politicians job?
26 Jul 2007, 23:14 pmEach man to his own, some will seek their fortunes abroad others will stay and fight the good fight, neither is right or wrong, it is only a matter of perception and what holds sway or value to our individual needs and aspirations, nothing, not identity, aspiration, hopes, dreams are so emphatically vital to our ultimate ambition that it is a case of right or wrong, no needs are such that they are cast in stone, our desires and needs alter from one day, year, lifetime to the next, so we are but swallows in search of that elusive endless summer.
26 Jul 2007, 23:16 pmperhaps if sabc made more of a fuss about losing the rugby broadcast versus the huge hoohaa about the soccer issue then i would be more accommodating about the perceived lack of interest of rugby amongst black s africans.
but it is all bullshit – odagg and his mates blaming the whites for lack of opportunity rather than looking inward at the anc govt. -
26 Jul 2007, 23:20 pmCharo I hear a deep routed sense of insecurity coming from you, a strong identification of the us and them syndrome that is dividing man from man and which has been the case through aeon's of time, nothing is new here, we come we pillage we take we run and so the cycle continues from day to day life to life, generation to generation, if ever there will be reasonable tolerance and compatibility between races, nations, societies, religions, it is still a far flung dream to the majority of all humanity, whether it be in Africa, Asia, Europe or America, the injustices and divisions between men will continue to blight the humanity some of us profess to hold dear.
26 Jul 2007, 23:26 pmIt is still black and white to you, it is such a narrow short sighted perception this huge monster mountain you have created of superiority and inferiority between and amongst races, it is one huge lack that we have that we see and judge all men by the pigmentation of their skin, or rather fail to see that men are men period, with exactly the same needs desires hopes ambitions and dreams, only the cycles of so called civilizations turn in different spheres so it is always one nation or race dominating another until that wheel turns full circle and then the dominating become the dominated, simply nature and destiny balancing out the injustices, or have you not eyes to see it?
26 Jul 2007, 23:37 pmDiddy
How can you have respect for someone that is only ever part of the problem, but never part of the solution.
Stofile has been been given the authority and power to do something about it (for a long time now) but does not have the brains to be able to figure out a solution, because he is only in that position because of cronyism. They have butted their head to a pulp against a brick wall by insisting on transformation on the top down, but the practical reality is that if teh Bok coach only has five black players to choose from, then he can't select ten. If a ball is blue, then it does not change colour because you have legislated that it is red! And that is what these power drunk morons don't get. Their role is to nurture and vitalise the system to grow it in the way they want it grown, not just criticise and condemn. But they are obviously not smart enough to know how to do this.
26 Jul 2007, 23:39 pmskopskiet,
i have tortured out 2 posts that now have failed to pitch – no more.
i am afraid the issue is not skin colour as you say above – i wish it was as simple as that. no, it is a culture thing and africans are way behind the europeans, chinese, indians and the rest. probably about 300 years behind. this explains the current problem of understanding each other. -
26 Jul 2007, 23:42 pmgoodnight to those bloggers still left here.
chat again in the morning. -
27 Jul 2007, 02:33 amSome excellent posts here, some of you boys are really good at this politico-sport business.
Now here is my question:
Which one of you, if you were a Bill Gates or a Johan Rupert, let's say, would have appointed Mr Makhenkesi Stofile as your CEO and his brother as your General Manager, with Mr Butane Komphela as Head of Production…….and go to bed at night peacefully with the confidence that your business was in good hands?
If you can answer 'Yes, me, I would do so without any reservation', then you shouldn't be in business.
Rather go teach history or social sciences or something instead, or go work for some or other government subsidised organisation with endless financial resources (taxes, preferably).LondonBul summed it up very neatly, you cannot use one sport to change all the wrongs in a society.
And read the penultimate sentence of Sjambok's post, it is all there, what the role of politicians in sport should be.
How can anybody not agree with that statement, anyone of sound mind that is?Charo said it time and time again, you cannot divorce sport from culture, or conversely, enforce sport upon a culture.
If that had been the case, than all the basketball players in the USA would have been white and all the ice hockey players in Canada would have been Inuit (Eskimo)! -
27 Jul 2007, 05:29 amPietman
Jy en my mede ex parkie GBS is mos computer boffins. Ek gaan vir 'n maand in die kruger wildtuin rond swerf. Hoe gaan mens te werk om internet daar te gebruik?
27 Jul 2007, 05:35 ampetoors
Ek weet van rekenaars maar weinig, ken net van internet.
Maar GBS is die man, hy het grade en alles in die IT bedryf.
Jy kan hom kry by legaleasy@xsinetdotcodotza, hy sal jou vinnig regsien,
Maar hy gaan vandag Margate toe.
Sy adres is telefoonnr ook op sarsu site.
Geniet die wildtuin. -
27 Jul 2007, 05:38 amPetoors
Ek het hom laat weet jy soek hom.
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