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10d Vs. 20d ?
Started by MrGabb, Feb 24 2005 12:40 PM
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Posted 24 February 2005 - 12:40 PM
I am trying to make a decision on whether I should upgrade to the new (to me) 20D or stick with my 10D. The difference in pixels is nice but not compelling. I was wondering if anyone could tell me of the practical advantages to upgrading. I shoot weddings and special events and get good results with what I have. How much of a cost benefit is there to upgrading?
Posted 24 February 2005 - 01:23 PM
I tried out the 20D at the PMA show yesterday, along with the 10-22mm EF-S lens and battery grip. The things that struck me were the rapid 5 fps and the angle of view that the lens gave - these factors may be enough to persuade me to upgrade, as I miss the wide-angle.
I also tried out the new Digital Rebel XT, but it felt completely alien to use coming from the 10D. That alone would put me off buying one.
I also tried out the new Digital Rebel XT, but it felt completely alien to use coming from the 10D. That alone would put me off buying one.
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Posted 24 February 2005 - 01:26 PM
Only you can answer this one! Does the 20d offer a feature not available on the 10d that you must have to significantly improve your photography? I would guess not. I wouldn't have thought that the 20d was enough of a step change from the 10d to justify the expense. The alternative, if you can afford it, is have both for the convenience of taking two bodies on assignment - one with a wide angle zoom and one with telephoto. Saves lens swapping.
Posted 24 February 2005 - 03:13 PM
Thanks for the replies guys, I would like you to clarify something for me. Does the fact that the EF-S lenses that can be used with the 20D are "closer" to the sensor mean that they give a more normal angle of view? And if so what is the different crop factor for these lenses other than 1.6?
Posted 24 February 2005 - 03:18 PM
The crop factor is related to the sensor size, which is the same in both cameras, so the crop factor is still 1.6x.
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Posted 25 February 2005 - 05:14 PM
That lens is one of the main reasons for me considering an upgrade to the 20D...but then Tamron have just released a 1118lens and Sigma a 10-20mm one. Hopefully they will offer comparable quality to the Canon lens.
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Posted 26 February 2005 - 02:44 AM
I can't speak for the EF-S lenses but Canons "L" lenses can't be beat. There is only one lense that I know of that rivals the clarity of an "L" lense and that's Tamron's 28 - 75 f/2.8 XR DI. It only costs $400 compared to Canons equivalent $1100. The clarity and sharpness are absolutely superb.
Posted 06 March 2005 - 05:23 PM
When is the best time to buy I have in the last month purchased a 20D after using a second hand EOS650. I find the 20D very nice to handle.Results are very good. The top of the range Mk2 at £4000 is a little out of my reach. I handled the 300D in a shop today and its not a patch on the 20d
Posted 06 March 2005 - 06:58 PM
Canon have just released the 350D, which is the replacement for the older 300D. Specs are good but it's a more consumer orientated camera than the 20D.
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Posted 01 April 2005 - 12:06 AM
The 20D is very nice but my friend who has used both doesn't find a very significant difference in the case of upgrading. The 5FPS burst is nice if you shoot a lot of action. I've heard you can get a respectable trade in on the 10D. Don't know if that's true. I love the 20D and if I were buying new I'd go with the 20D again. But if you already have a 10D and are familiar with it and love it maybe hold off for a bit. The way upgrades are going the 20D will be overshadowed in not too long by something better and even cheaper. Such is technology.
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@Philzone don't think priority is just going to finish her easily if I'm mistaken. 100/77/128 bulk is pretty good better than Reuniclus IIRC. Revenge killing is probably better as it is no Rampardos who dies to those moves.
@Philzone don't think priority is just going to finish her easily if I'm mistaken. 100/77/128 bulk is pretty good better than Reuniclus IIRC. Revenge killing is probably better as it is no Rampardos who dies to those moves.
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Hmm, I had the idea to use Snore as well, but, perversely, I prefer Meloetta to go Pirouette in doing so. Why? Well, the speed is naturally good for a flincher who doesn't fear the paralysis status, and the type change meanwhile will better defend Meloetta against two annoying attacks, U-turn and Pursuit, effectively turning a weakness to each into a resistance to each.
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So, anyway, my gimmicky core is composed of Rest, Snore, and Relic Song. What should the third move be used for? With Thunder and its paralysis chance, Meloetta could flinch pokemon in either form (its Aria form most notably) more effectively. (Thunder of course has shaky unboosted accuracy, but people here have gone on about Hurricane Tornadus.) With Zen Headbutt, Meloetta can flinch its opponents while it is awake. (Zen Headbutt will always be lacking either Meloetta's STAB or its full attack power though.) With Close Combat and Drain Punch, Meloetta gets Fighting STAB. (I shudder at the first as this Meloetta is kinda sorta like a ResTalker, although it really is nothing of the kind or sort.) Stone Edge, I've decided, has decent neutral coverage against a modest array of threats. Dual Chop also would provide for like modest coverage. U-turn lets Meloetta sing, sting, and then flee the ring.
Why use this Meloetta? Well, despite its many-minded muddled makeup, or rather, because of its many-minded muddled makeup, the set gets great recovery and free attacking chances. Each Snore that causes a flinch is free damage and makes your use of Rest more free of penalty as well.
This Meloetta's item could either be Leftovers or King's Rock, the latter being allowed as far as I know. (That was a declarative question!?) The first boosts recovery directly and is especially helped by the hoped-for flinch, and the latter gives hoped-for flinches. (Would this item also make Dual Chop an especially keen attack choice? You tell me, that was an inquisitive question?.)
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I predict low OU or high UU it is a versible pokemon so it can run lots of sets only if meloetta got wish..
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It's not too bad. Relic Song / Close Combat / Return / Ice Punch or Shadow Claw holding Life Orb has incredibly solid coverage against everything barring physically defensive Jellicent. Its two STABs hit everything in the game neutral except Ghosts. The only two Ghosts in OU are Gengar and Jellicent. Gengar falls to Ice Punch after a little damage (60.9% - 72%) while both take massive damage from Shadow Claw (though Jellicent has a solid chance of burning you).
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We have been putting on Gentlemen's Races for quite some time now. On the East Coast we will head into year two, while the West will see the third running of the race this September. Slate jokes that he is just waiting for the day when USA Cycling calls him up to let him know that he is through. I have suggested that it might come in the form of a sniper on the roof across the way. One never knows how far reaching they are these days. But one thing is for sure, and that is how much fun everyone is having participating in these races.
Bicycling Magazine just did a feature on the most recent iteration of the Gentlemen's Race that happened here in Portland, Oregon last September. You may recognize the author as Matt Card who has written a few pieces on food for this web based journal. We rode together that day and he accurately describes the pain and suffering that we endured. Included at the end of the article is a list that outlines ten non-races to participate in around the country. Some are "alley cats" like Cranksgiving and some, like the Cyclocross Single Speed World Championships, are straight up cyclocross festivals of mud and fun.
Legendary Burton Snowboard photographer, Jeff Curtes, shot the photos for the Bicycling article from a bike. He has done a few little shoots for Rapha now, including our Friday morning ride with Tim Johnson. Hopefully we will get to see more of his photography in the future.
One ride/race that happened most recently here in Portland was an organized affair called the King Kong Classic. The mysterious email that started circulating about three weeks before the date was a call to arms of sorts. It stated that, even though we do like to race, we also like the camaraderie that is associated with the group ride. And if there was a way to combine the two, this would be it. See the whole email on Tracko.
We try to promote this type of riding as much as we can around here. Why? Well, mainly because we like to ride bicycles and it helps to get us out the door. But the main reason is because these rides are fun and it does the trick of providing actual race pace training for people who are not as comfortable in a race setting. Maybe you do not have the upgrade points but still want to ride with your pals (looking at you Joe Staples) well, this way everyone gets to ride together. The people with more experience can, in this way, help out the newer cyclists.
Another ride is a monthly occurrence that we have been doing out of the office here in Portland - Otto Miller Wednesdays. Get everyone together and just ride bikes. Ride fast if you want. Talk to your pals and meet some new people or just make an effort to improve your mid-pack riding skills. And at the same time, you will get to ride the 6 mile gravel hill that is Otto Miller.
The casual appeal to this type of riding and racing is starting to take off in a big way. While there are ten of these races listed in Bicycling, there are more than you can count on both hands and toes being pasted around on blogs every day. Keep an eye on Trackosaurus for an accurate list, especially as the weather starts to get warmer.
All riding images from Otto Miller Ride, February 17th.
Next ride will be March 17th leaving the office at 12:30 pm. Be there.
And if you are looking for something more on the subject of riding well with others read Bill Strickland's most recent Sitting In piece titled The Passion of the Twerps.
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A tale of four syrahsI like syrah. If I had to choose one wine to drink for the rest of my days it would be a difficult choice between pinot and syrah. One of the things I really like about both of these varietals is that they can (if vinified correctly) show a great transparency of site (as riesling can do best among whites IMHO). This means that there can be a ton of different styles, and while I have my general preferences toward more old-world, animalistic renditions, I appreciate and embrace this diversity. These four syrahs paint a pretty interesting picture of all ends of the spectrum: Reynvaan on the bigger end, Anthill on the lighter side, and the Rotie somewhere in between. In the style of the Reynvaan, I much preferred the 2009 Gramercy I drank last week. To my tastes, the Gramercy was wild, expressive and well balanced. OTOH, the Reynvaan (Unnamed) was spoofilated and disjointed, though admittedly forward and sexy, sort of like Anne Hathaway in heels. However, the In the Rocks I drank recently seemed better put together. The Anthill, my first syrah from a house whose pinots I adore, was fresh, pure and very pretty. A truly incredible value for $17, and easily the superior of the Reynvaan at 1/3 the cost. The Rotie offers fair value at $35, but I will not be rushing off to get more, though I will save my other bottle for a few years as this seems a bit tightly-wound right now.
2009 Reynvaan Family Vineyards Syrah The Unnamed - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Walla Walla Valley (3/9/2012) Shows some similarities to the 2009 Gramercy I finished off last night, though this is comparatively smoother, sweeter and less "sauvage." The nose shows smoked meat, iron, ripe blackberries and a slight green/vegetal/herbal edge. Notes of white pepper, tobacco and cedar accent the core of black fruits. The finish is quite long and smooth, with little apparent tannin. Though full-bodied with a rich, silky mouthfeel, this seems to lack the structure for aging (apparent low acids, probably a bit of residual sugar and low tannins), so I would probably enjoy them in the short-term for their youthful exuberance. This is sure to be a crowd pleaser, but I prefer the racier more animalistic style of the entry-level Gramercy to this wine. NB: I liked this less and less as the evening went on. Trying to be objective I would rate this an 89, but I would put it closer to an 85 to my personal tastes. (89 pts.) 2009 Anthill Farms Syrah Sonoma Coast - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Coast (3/10/2012) Alluring, and very pretty nose of szechuan pepper, bay leaf, sour cherry, stems and spicebox, with a rather Northern Rhone-like character. Light to medium-bodied, with flavors of cranberry, strawberry, pepper and cigar tobacco. Light on its feet, with plenty of verve and a lengthy finish. I find that I'm really drawn to this style these days, and find this to be a very well-crafted and extremely affordable example of cool climate syrah. 92 points for aromas, 90 for the flavors. (91 pts.) 2009 Rôtie Cellars Northern Blend - USA, Washington (3/11/2012) Drank over two days and somewhat difficult to evaluate at this point of its evolution, as I suspect this will require a few years to hit its stride. The cofermented viognier gives this a lovely floral lift on the nose to go with the red berry, citrus rind and spicebox flavors. A bit lean and tight on the palate, but the component parts appear to be there, with fresh acidity, medium body, medium tightly-wound tannins, and a fairly long finish. A rather elegant, somewhat feminine expression of syrah which keeps your interest but doesn't really stand out from the crowd. (90 pts.) 2009 Reynvaan Family Vineyards Syrah In the Rocks - USA, Washington, Columbia Valley, Walla Walla Valley (3/16/2012) After being disappointed by my first experience with Reynvaan (a 2009 Unnamed), I decided to try another wine from their stable, which I have found to be better, though still not my style. This has been open for 3 days, showing best on day 2 and 3. Very dark in color, with a beefy, smokey, black fruit heavy nose. A big-boned wine, but unlike the Unnamed, this seemed to have a bit more structure and complexity, and to my tastes at least, was noticeably less spoofy. Has an interesting minty edge to the fruit (especially evident on day 1). Very new world, with a rich mouthfeel and very long resinous finish of blueberries, tar, and earth. This will be very appealing to most people. When in the mood for a bigger New World wine, I would reach for this, though I prefer Gramercy or Carlisle and they are more wallet-friendly as well. (91 pts.) cheers, scott Last edited by Scott Williams on March 16th 2012, 7:59pm, edited 2 times in total.
Re: A tale of two syrahsGood call on the Anthill Farms SC. It is a steal for the price and a real crowd pleaser... it's a great way to introduce people to more restrained wine styles.
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Re: A tale of two syrahsScott, I fear I'm starting to agree with you. I have about two cases of Cayuse and Reynvaan wines, and I find myself not looking forward to popping those corks. There's just not enough acid there to make it interesting. I find myself gravitating to cooler CA syrahs and those few WA producers in the same vein.
Have you had a Waters Forgotten Hills? Similar in philosophy to Gramercy. Terrific wine. Michael
A tale of two syrahsGreAt note on the Anthill.
I finished my last bottle of the Anthill Farms SC Friday night and it is a phenomenal buy at $18. I will buy much more next year. We seem to be drinking similarly this week. "There must be some kind of way out of here, said the Joker to the thief,
There's too much confusion, I can't get no relief."
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I fell cheated I paid $20 for mine. D. M i l n 3 r
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Michael, I have never had a Cayuse wine, and though they have legions of admirers, it sounds like they would not be for me. If they are made in a similar style to Reynvaan (I know Chrisophe consults there), then I've probably made the right call. Even Copain's wines from Cailloux and Coccinelle in Walla Walla (subcontracted from Christophe I believe) lack the acid in some of Wells' Mendocino/Yorkville Highlands vineyards. A 2004 I had recently was a real trainwreck although a 2002 was much better. Thanks for the tip on the Waters Forgotten Hills. I will seek this out.
Steve, my wife and I finished off the bottle last night and it was still showing magnificently in my opinion. She did not like it as much as me (she thought it a bit lean, but she much preferred it to the Reynvaan). She's a tough critic though. This reminded me a bit of Chave's Offerus, and also Copain's 2010 Baker Ranch. The latter is one of the best cool climate CA syrahs I've ever had.
Dan, indeed we are. For your reference, I popped a 2009 Rotie Cellars "Northern Blend" last night. Will post a note probably tonight. Also would like to revisit the '06 Alesia Fairview this week, and have an '09 Gramercy Lagniappe in the cue as well... cheers, scott
Re: A tale of two syrahsWaters is a producer well worth seeking out if you like Gramercy. Their style is very similar. I like the Forgotten Hills the best out of their four syrahs, with the Columbia Valley coming in second. (The latter is actually single vineyard, just not designated that way.)
They declassified all of the Forgotten Hills fruit in 2008, 2010, and 2011, so the price has gone up substantially. 2007 was about $36 on release, and the best QPR syrah I've ever had at that price. I bought half a case of the 2009 at $58, and looks like the winery is selling the 2007 now for $65. I might have to reload before it's all gone. I'll be interested to get your take on Rotie. I really liked the 2008 Northern Blend, much more than the Southern, which was a bit too much like strawberry Kool Aid for my taste. Haven't had any 2009, but have some on the way. Michael
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Michael, I updated my OP with a note on the 2009 Rotie, which I finished off last night after opening it on Sunday. I thought it to be a nice wine, with lots of upside potential, and definitely more restrained than the Reynvaan or Gramercy. A bit one-dimensional now, but my guess is that this could use some time. I had heard similar things about the Southern being a bit blowsy, so I've avoided that as well. The Northern was definitely not in that style. Good to hear that you liked the '07 Waters FH as this can be found at retail much cheaper than the current release '09. I understand the financial pains of declassifying, but that seems like a big price leap between releases, especially for syrah, which we all know nobody buys. cheers, scott
Re: A tale of three syrahsScott,
Thanks for the evolution-like notes on these wines - I really appreciate that! These are all such young wines that as you said, it is somewhat difficult to evaluate them without giving them a bunch of time. Heck, my 09's are still in barrel!!!! I too really dig a good streak of acid in my syrahs - there's a time and a place for a big, mouth coating syrah, but at the end of the day, I want some acid on the back end to boost up the finish and make the wine a bit more food friendly. Cheers! larry schaffer
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Re: A tale of three syrahsThanks for chiming in Larry. You also reminded me that I've been meaning to check in on some of your '07s. Would you recommend the Larner, Thompson, or Christine for current drinking?
cheers, scott
Re: A tale of three syrahsScott,
All three are drinking well right now, with the Thompson needing more air time than the other two . . . . keep me posted (-: larry schaffer
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Re: A tale of three syrahsI recently asked the folks @ Reynvann which 2008 Syrah they thought might be ready for enjoyment and they mentioned Unknown as a possibility for an early peek. Could be they would not endorse a 09 for uncorking yet. I have really enjoyed the few Reynvann Syrahs we have tasted. All that being said I don't enjoy the Gramercy style and it sounds like I'll love the 09 Unknown.
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Re: A tale of three syrahsHi Scott,
Thanks for posting your notes. It is a great reminder why I like this board- different strokes, different palates, different experiences. I about fell out of my chair when you described a Gramercy as more animalistic in comparison to the Reynvaan. My brain... can't... wait... reread... yep, that's what you said. (!) I've long maintained Quilceda Creek is the most polarizing winery in WA, with Christophe's wine second. I may have to revisit this and call it a tie, with the Frenchmen looking to take the lead. A quick glance at CellarTracker show tasters saying the Unnamed is sweet, dry, no tannins, dense tannins, well balanced, no acid, full bodied, savory, spoofilated just to name a few. Some like it, and a few like you don't care for it at all. Glenn- I had an '09 Contender a few months back. It was lovely with a short decant. I wouldn't hesitate to pop an '08 Unnamed. I have had this wine multiple times and it has never been close to closed down at any point for me. Give it a go!
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Try the 2009 Gonon St. Joseph. I think you can sell your Cayuse and buy this French syrah beauty for a ratio of about 3 or 4:1. Boston, 1965
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Michael, I don't think they declassified the fruit....I don't think they got any fruit from that vineyard. There were major freezes that killed the crops for '08, '10, and '11. Down along JB George road (Where Waters, Pepper Bridge, Saviah, etc are at) is VERY susceptable to freezes. ITB - West Hills Wine Logistics
Re: A tale of three syrahsMy understanding was that some of the grapes went into the Wines of Substance syrah, but I could be misinformed! Greg Harrington occasionally posts; he'd certainly know.
Re: A tale of three syrahsOne other WA recommendation would be Rasa. They're more modern in style, but they make very balanced wines, not overly ripe or overly oaked. I like them quite a bit when I'm after something a little less wild, but still with the gamey, briny syrah notes.
Re: A tale of three syrahsIn 2008 and 2011, there wasn't any Forgotten Hills. Its one of the coldest spots in the entire valley, as the cold air running off the Blue Mts sits right at the vineyard. Its a nail biter even in the perfect conditions. An example to understand the difference - Les Collines is about a 1/2 mile as the crow flies from Forgotten Hills. Les Collines is at the base of the Blue Mts. We typically harvest Les Collines Syrah somewhere around the last week of September. Its not unusual to pick Forgotten Hills Syrah the last week of October.
In 2009 and 2010, we declassified Forgotten Hills to Substance, though the blend includes many vineyards. As of 2008, we are not involved in wine making for Substance. On a side note post harvest. We feel that 2011 could be our absolute best in terms of Rhone varietals. It was a truly Old World vintage in the fact that we had flavor ripeness well before physical ripeness. There were blocks we could have picked sub 21 Brix. We didn't, opting for extended hang time. There was little fear of runaway alcohols. 2010 is also a very good Rhone varietal vintage, though the wines will require substantial patience. Interestingly, I have tasted more than a few low acid wines from 2010. Diligence was necessary, even in this very cool vintage, to pick before acids fell through the floor. We saw this in many vineyards. It was a crazy one, but a prep for 2011.
Re: A tale of three syrahsThanks for chiming in, Greg!
But Waters did make a Forgotten Hills in 2009, so presumably some of it was high quality. I have six of 'em coming, so I hope so! By "we" do you mean Gramercy, or you and Jamie Brown? I always enjoyed those wines, hope this doesn't signal a change for the worse.
Thanks for the perspective; I look forward to trying both. Michael
Re: A tale of three syrahsSorry, by "we" I mean Gramercy. Jamie Brown makes the Substance wines.
Re: A tale of four syrahsSo although I stand by my original statement that the Reynvaan Unnamed was spoofy, I went back to the well and opened an In the Rocks a few nights ago, and have spent the past few evenings with what I believe to be the prettier sister. Though still not my favorite style, and clearly a New World wine, the In the Rocks seemed to have a better make-up, and may actually turn into something interesting when the fruit settles down a bit. Still not a convert, but I can now see why many would find these wines appealing. TN posted in the OP.
cheers, scott
Re: A tale of four syrahs07 ITR, opened earlier this year, is the best domestic Syrah (alongside some aged Scholium Scythia) we have enjoyed this wintertime.
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Re: A tale of four syrahsUpdating this thread with some recent bottles.
I had ordered the Anthill SC and Campbell after reading about them here. In the mean time my wife and I were out to dinner the other night and by chance (with help from CT on cell phone) ordered a bottle of Wind Gap Syrah. The Wind Gap has an incredible nose and smelled like a perfect Syrah. It was much more restrained on the palate which was somewhat of a let down after whiffing it but still was very enjoyable in its own right. I wouldn't mind trying this again. The next day I opened the Anthill SC so we could compare to the previous night. Nose was very weak and on the palate it was bigger but not nearly as elegant as the Wind Gap. What I could not get around was the tart sour taste of this wine. It completely overwhelmed any of the syrah qualities for me. I drank this over a four hour period and it not improve with time in the glass. Of course at $35 the Wind Gap is $15 more than Anthill but I much prefer it. What would be even better for me would be Wind Gap with a little more oomph on the palate. I am used to Central Coast syrahs but it has been a while since I had one so would be hard make a comparison.
Re: A tale of four syrahsUpdate to my update.
After sitting on the counter for a few days this has improved greatly. If it was like this at the start I would be more enthused but not motivated to buy again. But I am appreciating the style more. I wonder if I should open the Anthill Campbell a few days in advance now.
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DNSSEC (Domain Name System Security Extension) adds security to the DNS. It is designed to address MITM attacks and cache poisoning by authenticating the origin of DNS data and verifying its integrity while moving across the internet.
The Domain Name System (DNS), the internet's addressing system, is the most critical component of the internet infrastructure. Without it, the internet could not function. However, it was not designed with security in mind. As a result, it is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks and cache poisoning. These threats use forged data to redirect internet traffic to fraudulent sites and unintended addresses. Learn more about DNS
Once an unsuspecting user or device reaches the fraudulent site, cyber criminals can potentially extract credit card data, steal user passwords, eavesdrop on voice over IP (VoIP) communications, plant malicious software or display images and text that defame the legitimate brand or provide misleading information. Given that a single DNS name server can act as the name-to-address resolution point for thousands of users, the potential impact of a MITM attack or cache poisoning can be considerable.
DNSSEC presents opportunities for all members of the internet ecosystem. Its most direct and widespread impact is on end users.
The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) has been working for more than 15 years to develop a workable standard for the domain name system security extensions (DNSSEC). DNSSEC protects the internet community from forged DNS data by using public key cryptography to digitally sign authoritative zone data when it comes into the system and then validate it at its destination. Learn more about public key cryptography
Digital signing helps assure users that the data originated from the stated source and that it was not modified in transit. DNSSEC can also establish that a domain name does not exist. These capabilities are essential to maintaining trust in the internet.
In DNSSEC, each zone has a public/private key pair. The zone's public key is published via the DNS, while the zone's private key is kept safe and ideally stored offline. A zone's private key signs individual DNS data in that zone, creating digital signatures that are also published via DNS.
DNSSEC uses a rigid trust model and this chain of trust flows from parent zone to child zone. Higher-level (parent) zones sign, or vouch for, the public keys of lower-level (child) zones. The authoritative name servers for these various zones may be managed by registrars, internet service providers (ISPs), web hosting companies or website operators (registrants) themselves.
When an end user wants to access a website, a stub resolver on the user's computer requests the website's IP address from a recursive name server. After the server requests this record, it also requests the DNSSEC key associated with the zone. This key allows the server to verify that the IP address record it receives is identical to the record in the authoritative name server.
If the recursive name server determines that the address record has been sent by the authoritative name server and has not been altered in transit, it resolves the domain name and the user can access the site. This process is called validation. If the address record has been modified or is not from the stated source, the recursive name server does not allow the user to reach the fraudulent address. DNSSEC can also prove that a domain name does not exist. As a result of this process, DNS queries and responses are protected from man-in-the-middle (MITM) attacks and the kind of forgeries that could possibly redirect internet users to phishing and pharming sites.
To ensure the global success of DNSSEC, Verisign advocates a proactive but cautious approach that revolves around three core principles:
Although DNSSEC enhances DNS security, it is only one component of a layered approach to internet infrastructure security. It does not protect name servers from distributed denial of service (DDoS) attacks, ensure confidentiality of data exchanges, encrypt website data nor prevent IP address spoofing and phishing. Other layers of protection, such as DDoS mitigation, security intelligence, Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) encryption and site validation, as well as two-factor authentication, are also critical to making the internet more secure. These mechanisms should be used in conjunction with DNSSEC.
The broad implementation of DNSSEC introduces a set of complex changes that affects the entire internet ecosystem and requires extensive resources, documentation, testing and industry coordination. Any rollout of DNSSEC must proceed in phases, especially for the reliable operation of globally crucial top-level domains (TLDs) such as .com and .net. Long-term strategy, planning and collaboration - not only within and across organisations and industries, but also internationally - creates a strong foundation for successful implementation.
Because cache poisoning can occur at any point in the internet, DNSSEC is most effective when universally implemented - starting at the root zone and top-level domains (TLDs) and moving down to individual domain names. Registries, registrars, registrants, hosting companies, software developers, hardware vendors, government, businesses and agencies with an internet presence, and internet technologists and coalitions all have responsibility for the success of this massive effort.
DNSSEC adoption is gaining momentum as governments, financial institutions, internet service providers (ISPs), businesses and other organisations become increasingly aware of DNS-related threats.
The internet root zone, top-level domains (TLDs) such as .net, .com, .gov, .org, .museum and .edu, as well as a number of country code TLDs (ccTLDs) have completed full DNSSEC deployment. These TLDs have begun accepting second-level DNSSEC-signed domain names. Some ISPs have announced their intention to activate validation on the recursive name servers that answer user queries, and some registrars have included DNSSEC implementation in their strategic plans. In addition, ICANN has opened applications for new TLDs, and it is likely that ICANN will require successful new TLD applicants to have plans for DNSSEC implementation.
1990 | A major flaw in DNS is discovered and dialogue about securing DNS begins. |
1995 | DNSSEC becomes a formal topic within the IETF. |
1999 | The DNSSEC protocol (RFC2535) is finished and BIND9 is developed as the first DNSSEC-capable implementation. |
2001 | Key handling creates operational problems that make DNSSEC deployment impossible for large networks. The IETF decides to rewrite the protocol. |
2005 | DNSSEC standards are rewritten in several RFCs 4033, 4034, 4035. In October, Sweden (.se) enables DNSSEC in their zone. |
2007 | In July ccTLD .pr (Puerto Rico) enables DNSSEC, followed by .br (Brazil) in September and .bg (Bulgaria) in October. |
2008 | The NSEC3 standard (RFC 5155) is published. In September ccTLD .cz (Czech Republic) enables DNSSEC. |
2009 | Verisign and EDUCAUSE host a DNSSEC test bed for selected .edu registrants. Root zone signed for internal use by Verisign and ICANN. ICANN and Verisign exercise signing the ZSK with the KSK. |
2010 | The first root server begins serving the signed root, utilising the DURZ (deliberately unvalidatable root zone) methodology. All root servers serving the signed root, using the DURZ methodology. ICANN holds first KSK ceremony event in Culpeper, VA, USA. ICANN publishes the root zone trust anchor and root operators begin to serve the signed root zone with actual keys - the signed root zone is available. Verisign and EUDCAUSE enable DNSSEC for the .edu domain. Verisign enables DNSSEC for the .net domain. |
2011 | In February, DNSSEC-enabled .gov registry is transferred to Verisign. In March, .com is signed and the Verisign Managed DNS service is enhanced with full support for DNSSEC compliance. 59 TLDs are signed with trust anchors in the root zone. |
2012 | In January, Comcast announced that its customers are using DNSSEC-validating resolvers. From March, the number of TLDs signed grew to 90. |
Verisign has been involved in DNSSEC development since 2000, and our engineers played a leading role in the development of the NSEC3 protocol. We continue to collaborate with the internet technical community as DNSSEC testing, implementation and adoption move forward. For example, we were an active member of the DNSSEC Coalition, an industry organisation dedicated to facilitating DNSSEC adoption. Also, to ensure that we are using the best practices, we share what we have learned in our DNSSEC deployments, and support a consistent DNSSEC approach across registries.
In July 2010, Verisign - working with the Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) and the US Department of Commerce (DoC) - completed deployment of DNSSEC in the root zone (the starting point of the DNS hierarchy). Verisign also enabled DNSSEC for .edu in July in collaboration with EDUCAUSE and the DoC, .net in December 2010, and .com in March 2011. In addition, a number of top-level domains (TLDs) have been signed by other registries, including .gov and .org, and country code TLD names for Brazil, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Puerto Rico and Sweden.
We have also taken multiple steps to help members of the internet ecosystem take advantage of DNSSEC. These steps include publishing technical resources, providing an Operational Test Environment, leading educational sessions, participating in industry forums, developing tools to simplify DNSSEC management, and assisting the community with an interoperability lab.


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mogadishu wrote:swee wrote:mogadishu wrote:0/T
how can alien forms of life on earth be true? it would take too long for them to reach us. other planets are too far away. even sunlight takes eight minutes to reach earth?
Vortexes. Plus several have been here all along. Check out the Dropas, for one.
if they've been here all along, how are they aliens?
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Now this is some Italian food! The crispy thin crust pies are excellent. There are also little gems of italian greats all over the menu, such as the shrimp fra diablo...
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Thousands of books, articles, and web pages have been published about media literacy by authors all over the world. These authors are concerned citizens, parents, consumer activists, educators, and scholars from almost every field of study across academia. Given the wide-ranging backgrounds of these authors, it should be no surprise that there are many visions of what media literacy is and how it can best be achieved. Some authors think media literacy is an educational problem, so they write about curriculum design, course design, and student assessment. Some think media literacy is a family responsibility, so they write about how parents can help their children handle the risks that come with media exposure. Some think of media literacy as a personal responsibility, so they construct theories about how the media influence individuals and offer practical guidelines to help people control those effects in their everyday lives. And some authors regard media literacy as a problem with the media themselves, so they critique media businesses for many of their values, practices, and messages. While there is a great variety of thinking about media literacy, there is also a core essence that is shared by all people writing about the subject. This shared vision is that media literacy is concerned with empowering individuals to understand the mass media better and to use that increased understanding to take more control over their media exposure habits, to analyze the meaning in media messages more carefully, and thereby simultaneously to protect themselves from potentially negative effects and enhance the media's positive effects.
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The three most important foundational questions have been: How should media literacy be defined? What should be the role of media literacy within the institution of education? And with which media should literacy be most concerned? This section is structured to highlight sources where scholars provide answers to these three fundamental questions about general definitions of media literacy, literacy and education, and literacy by medium.
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We human beings are just like flowers which need oxygen, light as well as water. When we are sounded by nature, we feel peace and calm because nature do have the magic power to let us relaxed and inspired once they are introduced to our home. There are five shrubs suggested for you in your landscaping project.
1. Red Flowers: Rose
Red flowers represent a sense of passion as well as enthusiasm while rose is the queen among the red flowers. As the embodiment of love and kindness, it is suitable to be put in the dining room or the kitchen when you are eating so that you and your family can enjoy a fabulous meal under a harmonious atmosphere and fragrant smell.
2. Blue or Purple Flowers: Violet
Blue stands for ocean and sky which contains a huge open mind and purple can keep up one's spirits. The moment when you enter a house with such fabulous violet, however unhappy you are because of some unpleasant stuff, you can calm down and fall into your tranquil world.
3. Orange flowers: African daisy
What's your feeling when you see orange flowers? Happy? Ardent? Excited? Yes, that's what you can get from the orange African daisy. Matched with white and green plants; they stand for new opportunities and the power to grow. Put them right on your desk, you can stimulate your creativity and infinite possibility.
4. Yellow flowers: Chrysanthemum, Sunflower
Yellow flowers are the emissary of sun, full of power of life, by the way, they are also good to reduce your pressure and help you do an emotional regulation. Different style of flowers can have different healing power.
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Guess what kind of flower do I forget to say? You! Yes, the hostess is the central of the house. How could a flowery house be lively without a floral fairy! In order to make a bulk effect of flower, the hostess can wear a piece of dress with floral pattern since the hot trend this summer is flower. The D & G 2011 summer show, the underwear, blouses, dresses, skirts, trousers, jackets, head scarves, handbags, flowers are everywhere, like in an ocean of flowers. Besides D & G, you can also take advantage of Karen Millen floral pattern dresses.
Flowers, connected with happiness, creativity, sympathy and tranquility, can make us healthier, more optimistic and more compassionate. Bring more flowers in your living space as well as working space, you can have a newly nice day!