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Deck Hand
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #25 on:
December 08, 2009, 10:30:30 pm »
To waterbug,
Id love to see any pics on these efforts of yours, and your design aswell! I understand that Metal working can be difficult, but The industrial arts is my thing! For now, I have given up on the tabs on the backs of the keys, Because as long as the backing and clear are a snug fit, there should be little hassle, and removable rims might not be a bad thing, I just have make it nice and snug!
What I plan on doing, once a little more capital is in order, is taking 0.3mm to 0.5mm thick metal tubing(9/16th OD), cutting out a 1/4th inch ring and setting those aside. My next step is to take a 1/16 inch peice of sheet steel and boring a 9/16th countersunk hole into the sheet, then take 2 1/16th sheets and boring a hole clear through these, so i can stack them and make a die that is 3/16th thick.
Ill heat the ring and tap it into the die, forming a ring with a 1/16th bevel at the top, next I will flatten the bevel with a flat sheet. Finally I will Take a 1/2 inch steel rod and bend the rims in, this should yeild me with a 3/16th inch thick key with a 1/16 rim bent in. It should be able to hold a 1/16th inch of clear acryllic or glass, the identifier, and a 1/16th piece of balsa or basswood veneer back. Careful sanding and a little bit of Clear Epoxy should leave me with a close replica!
I Have all the tools I need, i just need to wait for my next gain on capital to afford the tube.
Still on the drawing boared, but i beleive im getting closer! Stay tuned everyone!
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #26 on:
December 09, 2009, 05:07:55 am »
Just for the record, I see no problem with disassembling typewriters. The market sets their value and the value is pretty low. Many typewriters go unsold and end up in the trash. Someday maybe their numbers will be reduced to the point of becoming valued. Then my huge stash will be worth millions and millions.
Here are my notes.
Shows different rim profiles I've seen and my initial threaded design, later simplified.
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More threaded design.
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Diagram at the bottom I thought interesting, tapping the tube.
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Also tapping the tube but also the cut off to taper the wall for the round over.
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My big problem at the time was I didn't understand annealing. Now that I do I believe the task of rolling the rim would be much easier.
I would not underestimate the problem of how these keys would be attached to whatever their finial use. It screwed me up several times.
I also have drawings for the threaded design sent to the machine shop. If needed I could find those. But not very interesting since I think threading is far too time consuming for a mass produced item, plus the need for thicker stock, seemed a dead end.
And speaking of dead ends...I gave up on this for economic reasons. The number of keys needed per keyboard at 100+ is a scary multiplier. Keys from old typewriters are expensive, but still less than $1 each, less than $0.40 each with careful buying. And these keys have history and are perfection. That's the competition. I suggest a cost analysis before investing too time and money.
There are two ways I see to make this worth while. One, a large market. I believe someone like Datamancer would like to produce keyboards in larger numbers and less labor. Two, improve the design. Steampunk the key itself. For example, in trying to improve the tabs I thought to drill tiny holes through the sides of the ring into the base and then use tiny rivets. A copper or brass ring with the other metal as the rivet I think would look nice. Also, a key may look nicer if thicker. Any improvement could increase value and cover cost. Plus, anything worth doing is worth doing well.
However, I think it would provide excellent experience and completely worthwhile from that perspective.
To me epoxy would be completely out of the question. I think the key should be able to be disassembled and fixed by the user. Liquid on the keys can stain the paper beneath.
I have to study your die making plan more as I didn't get an image in my head on the first read. It certainly sounded very interesting. You're far ahead of me in your understanding of how metal performs. Without that experience I tend to over think what is needed.
One last thing comes to mind...I was looking into buying a manual press but didn't know what size was needed. So I sent a piece of copper pipe to a press manufacturer to test how much their press could deform it. But without a die or dies I really couldn't go further. Do you have any way to test with some simple die idea using copper pipe? I am in Phoenix AZ. I don't suppose you are down the street?
Last Edit: December 09, 2009, 04:02:44 pm by Waterbug
Obsession is my mistress and she is a bitch.
Captain Quinlin Hopkins
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #27 on:
December 09, 2009, 01:09:17 pm »
If you don't mind a quick interjection here. Copper is a wonderful material, that can be worked easily. For the most simple exercise go you your local cheap tool store(such as a harbor freight) and pick up a double tube flaring tool kit
. It contains a die, which, when inserted into the properly sized tube, begins to bend the tubing in. Removing the die and finishing cranking on the handle presses this bend down and back onto itself as it produces the final flare. It's meant to double the wall thickness and give a bit more material over to compression in a flare fitting. A very similar die could easily be used in a fly press
to hand mint each piece from tubing.
To cut the same from sheet stock would involve a few more complicated dies, but their complexity lends to more reproducible dimensions. As well as a bit more speed(if the multiple stages can be run on a single stroke). Though either process is not extremely complicated, they do take a bit of research to master.
At the bottom of the fly press link are a few charts for calculating pressure needed.
Best of luck, It's something you can definitely accomplish, so don't give up.
Captain Quinlin Hopkins (Hoppy)
Do not ignore the freedoms of someone else, for eventually you will be someone else!
Steampunk Illumination Society
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #28 on:
December 09, 2009, 04:00:48 pm »
Good to see a face I recognize. The flaring tool is only the exact tool I have been searching for oh these many months. While I have done some plumbing over the years I never really used compression fittings much and so did not know of such a tool. Whether or not it actually is the finial solution or I just learn further it at least allows me to move past this road block. The Oliver Keypad company is back in business.
Right off, looking at the picture of the dies it gives me ideas on making dies which I also have no experience. Simply drilling into steel stock with a large bit, maybe 3/4" to 1", just to create a concaved surface. Pushing the tube into that should start to round over the rim. The a series of such dies, unless one does the job, until the rim is at least 90 degrees over. Then maybe other dies to push the rim straight down. But for all I know this is what the flaring tool does. My local Harbor Frieght opens in 30 minutes so hopefully I will know some results tonight. I will be using rigid pipe, but annealing will take care of that unless there is some dimensional difference that messes the works.
I have a manual tool used to punch holes in steel given cutting dies. Hopefully this will serve as fly press.
For me copper is my first choice for keys for many reasons in addition to ease of working. It improves the look over the nickel plated steel. It steampunks the key itself rather then just the key steampunking another object. Also copper is thought to cure or help with several ailments from arthritis pain to Menke's Syndrome and the user will be in direct contact with the keys. Whether or not I believe this is immaterial, only my patrons' beliefs matter. Copper can of course also be plated so that option is still available.
Captain, it is just these types of diversions why it takes me 15 weeks to complete a hidden door bookcase which should have taken 2.
Spotteh, what do you think. I would like to be saved from further dead ends. The equipment you have access to would still produce a superior result I should think and at a faster rate.
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #29 on:
December 09, 2009, 04:10:36 pm »
The flaring tool is in stock and I am as giddy as a little girl and out the door. The kit also includes tube benders, something else I have wanted to try. Giddy I say. Thanks much Captain.
Captain Quinlin Hopkins
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #30 on:
December 09, 2009, 04:41:44 pm »
This particular kit will work on 8 sizes from 3/16" to 5/8", so even if it's not exactly right, Hopefully one will be close enough to at least give you the concept.
If you don't mind delays I've an entire machine shop at my disposal, so may be of some assistance in creating a purpose built die. Only heat treating would be lacking. I'm currently working 80+ so little time for side projects. But I do squeeze them in when I can. Odds are what you need is already out there, it's just tracking it down properly that's the bugger.
Edit and do make sure you're looking at the
flare kit. The single flare won't help you a bit.
Last Edit: December 09, 2009, 04:43:33 pm by Captain Quinlin Hopkins
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #31 on:
December 09, 2009, 06:25:57 pm »
OK, there are two ways I go off, half cocked or not at all.
Yes, I called about the flaring kit and not the double. Lucky for me the two were side by side and my brain did engage for a moment. I got both thinking if one tool is good then surely two would be doubly good.
There was a problem with the first try and I quickly narrowed the problem down to me. I have seen flares on copper before but not a double wall so I really did have a clue of the goal. And of course the Harbor Freight while always a very entertaining puzzle was no actual help. Not having an net connection at my shop I had to drive back home. A quick search resolved my problem. I thought the whole button went inside the tube, didn't realize there was a concaved bit inside.
My result was just a single flare, of course not what I wanted or you the Captain had in mind either.
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Now armed with infinite knowledge I'm off to the shop again. One thing I have noticed is this indeed may well be exactly what I want. The flare is very uniform. And I think I'll be able to easily control how far over the rim is turned as I won't want to go all the way. However it occurs to me that given no experience I shouldn't expect to know the result. So, therefore I am half cocked and again and ready to proceed.
And thank you good Captain for the offer of the machine shop and your talents. I would hate to impose so I will delay that until or unless absolutely necessary. But your experience is truly invaluable.
Last Edit: December 09, 2009, 06:28:54 pm by Waterbug
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #32 on:
December 10, 2009, 05:23:05 am »
I tried rigid copper M and L. No go. The O.D. of the rigid is close to 5/8 so it did fit into the 5/8" clamp nicely. But the rounding over die was a touch too small.
Then I tried 1/2 copper tubing, O.D. is 1/2. This fit in the 1/2" clamp and the die fit. However, I think the tube wall is too thick. The die has a post that goes inside the tube and that post barely fits, so there is little to no room to round over into, if that makes sense. I basically just crushed the wall.
From my light Goggling it seems people talk about using this for brake lines. Maybe brake lines have a thinner wall? The 0.025" wall on the copper seems too thick for the dies unless I'm using them wrong. I will research more.
I also tried some 7/16" brass tube, 0.014" wall, half that of the copper. That didn't fit in the 1/2" clamp very well and didn't seen to want to deform at all. Perhaps I will get some 1/2" brass tube tomorrow. The cost just for the brass would be about $0.18 per key, $18 for an entire keyboard. I'm sure I could get it cheaper, but I'm already pretty close to the cost of typewriter keys.
I also had a grommet tool which has a die of sorts which fit the 1/2 rigid perfect. I hammered a piece into it and it did round over nicely, but only a bit as the die is much too shallow. But it certainly seem doable with the right die. But making the die would seem to be trial and error without being an engineer in this line.
Captain Quinlin Hopkins
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #33 on:
December 10, 2009, 01:35:03 pm »
Yes, commonly used for brake or transmission lines in autos. A .030" thick wall should not be an issue, as I did thicker steel lines on my transmission just a few weeks ago with this particular tool. Setting your tubing in to the proper height makes a large difference. It should extend beyond the clamp by the height of the lip of the die being used. I think these have a main surface thickness of around .150", but don't have it in front of me.
I can't recall, is one side of the clamp flat, and the other have a chamfer? or do both sides have the flare? If they were flat the tube would curl in more, instead of trying to push out.
At least you do get the concept now. And yes, the grommet tool is indeed a die that can properly bend the tubing out. You might search for other grommet tools of the proper size for a commercial answer, short of a purpose built die.
If you were to have a clamp with straight walls, a mandrel(the sticking up portion of your die that fits inside the tube).... bah..let me work up something in cad to show you, back in a second.
Edit: This is similar to the grommet die you have and a very simple solution to your current needs. All you have to do is pick a diameter and a radius that your material can actually bend at, and you're golden. Purple on bottom is the stationary plate. Red on top would attach to your arbor press. A small groove on the lower plate should keep the bottom from mushrooming out. Hard tooling on both sides of your part will give you rather consistent finished product.
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Last Edit: December 10, 2009, 02:28:45 pm by Captain Quinlin Hopkins
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #34 on:
December 10, 2009, 02:02:47 pm »
Your information that 0.030" wall thickness should work keeps from going down one wrong path. I was convinced that was the problem. Perhaps I am not preparing the tube correctly although I haven't seen any overly complex instructions in that regard.
I did have the tube sticking up about 0.180", so that sounds about right.
The clamp is flat on one side and chamfered on the other. I was using the chamfered side. But your point is well made on the flat side helping keep the walls from blowing outwards.
Also, I did oil both die and tube as I saw suggested on some sights.
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #35 on:
December 10, 2009, 03:00:42 pm »
I found superior instructions from another manufacturer. Here is their diagram.
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These instructions also say copper up to a wall thickness of .040" is allowed so I should be good there.
Figure 4 shows the tubing after the first step and its wall has deformed outward. Also note the post of the black die inside the tube fills, or nearly fills the side of the tube and would stop the tube from rolling inward. It seems to me the post is there to keep the die square and that is why it must fill the inside. This was my exact experience, so perhaps there is no issue. It is what it is.
I've learned a couple of things so far. First, this tool has no problem deforming the target metal type and thickness.
Secondly, the wall thickness on the copper at even .025" is starting to look way too thick for use in keys. By the time the roll is complete I think the inside diameter would be reduced too much. I hadn't considered this before but now it is becoming obvious. But of course given the right die and pressure copper could be deformed like a rivet head rather than any roll at all.
I still like the copper. Perhaps no roll is needed at all, or at least a modified roll. My original diagrams with the threaded keys showed more of a blending over than a roll. I may try chamfering the outside of the tube to a great degree and use the non-chamfered side of the clamp and a smaller die size, so the post yields more space, to see if I can get the wall to move inward. Long term I could reduce the diameter of that post just near the base to give room for movement inward while leaving the rest of post diameter for proper die alignment.
What is bothering me greatly is I have a lathe, purchased a year ago just for making these keys, and I have made little use of it. It has intimidated me I am ashamed to admit. I think I should have produced proper dies long ago. As dies go this should be butt simple.
Miles (a sailor)Martin
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Just a head full of random thoughts
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #36 on:
December 10, 2009, 04:00:57 pm »
have you checked out Linsay's publications web site , i think that the Accurate Tool Work book or the Sheet metal pattern making could have the info you are looking for.
Miles (a sailor)Martin
Who you calling old, Sonny boy? Just because my birth certificate is on birch bark there isn't any reason to be calling names.
machinist for hire/ mechanic at large
Warning : minstrel with a five string banjo
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #37 on:
December 10, 2009, 06:57:55 pm »
Great site I had not known,
Linsay's Technical Books
. I find these older books much easier to learn from and much more practical for my limited shop. Modern books generally assume a better shop and experience than I have. I will get
Accurate Tool Work
and look for others. Thank you Miles.
Miles (a sailor)Martin
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Just a head full of random thoughts
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #38 on:
December 10, 2009, 09:31:10 pm »
No problem my good fellow , glad to be of assistance
Miles (a sailor)Martin
Deck Hand
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #39 on:
December 11, 2009, 03:45:34 am »
To Waterbug,
Copper Tarnishes really fast, in fact, if you dont laquer it right after polishing, it ill turn icky black pretty quickly, in less then a week. But I love the rosy pink of polished copper.
If you can invert the flare with the flaring device, then that would be amazing! I hope you can figure it out! As i Said before, i need to pause do to my financial situation.
Thick Tubing is hard to use. I tried so many times ith the tubing you can pick up at loes or homedepot. Its far too thick. Since all the kys I have seen are less then half a milimeter thick, I suggest fallowing suit. Small Parts sells a verity of metal tubing, so i would suggest looking there.
Look for something from 1/2 to 5/8s inches thick, with a all less then a milimeter thick.
Aluminum, Brass, and copper ould probably be the best metals to used, becuase when polished they all look nice.
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #40 on:
December 11, 2009, 05:05:54 am »
Good to see you back, I was starting to worry.
I like all phases of copper from the green through to the bright depending on the application. For keys I can see both the bright and patina being good choices. My current preference is natural patina. I can see these keys getting dark on the sides and staying bright where touched and that beautiful gradient inbetween. And the idea of different keys tarnishing differently depending on how often used tickles me. Like tracks on the keyboard. I would start with polished, no coating, and let time takes its course which works well for copper because as you said, doesn't take long. But of course there's no problem going back and forth between lacquered and natural if one was unhappy or bored with either look.
I would be more enchanted with lacquer if it didn't darken or reduce the luster of polished copper and brass. But of course on the other hand, as you said, that luster seems to only last moments.
I understand what you mean about wall thickness. The wall does have to be thin for a roll like the old typewriters. I did try some 0.014" walled brass tube. For some reason I couldn't get it to deform at all, but I had the wrong diameter, 9/16". It didn't fit in the 1/2" clamp properly. But given the shape of these dies there doesn't seem to be a way to flare inward no matter.
I am now also concerned about the inside edge. Whatever is done the result has to be very uniform which I think is an issue with rolling. I am becoming more and more convinced that custom dies are need. I don't think they have to be very complex as I have drawn some and also I have zero experience. Nothing looks complex when one doesn't know what one is talking about.
A plus of thick wall copper is it does deform well under small pressures. I'm thinking the entire head should deform and fill the die rather than just rolling. The same way the head of a rivet is formed only half a head, inside out.
I do curse you Spotteh for putting back onto this obsession.
You are smart to heed your financial situation and not waste too much effort on this folly as I have. I too should, and hopefully will, pause again as I am suppose to be getting a home ready for my wife who has already been very patient. No good comes from pushing wives or finances to the brink.
My next step in making dies will be a large step for me and require a lot of practice and time. So I should wait until my house is in order first. I will post images of my die ideas to see if anyone can point out improvements or issues. Do you still have access to presses? If I made dies is there some shape or something needed to fit into your press? I think even a manual press would work, but maybe not.
In the mean time I will acquire proper technical books, study, and dream of the perfectly shaped rims.
As a side note, I spoke with my neighbor Dr Nick who is better than 3/4 of a century, a physicist, a had a factory back in the day that made metal trash cans and other objects. So he was explaining how his machines worked. He says to me "why don't you just get the original dies"? Well for one, they are 50 to 100 years old. This does not phase Dr Nick as he has older shirts. Second, who do I call? Dr Nick has some connections in Woodstock Ill and will get back to me.
Perhaps Captian Hopkins will beat me to the punch (sorry) and whip out some cracker dies on one of his fine machines. I can surface hard them if need be which should be OK for copper. But I know he is very busy too.
Last Edit: December 11, 2009, 05:09:24 am by Waterbug
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #41 on:
December 12, 2009, 12:34:36 am »
I'm of the opinion that maybe an easier way might be to simply get a staight tube get glass lenses, letter plates, and back fastener. or something build a stack of keys in the tube. Set it in a lathe. and turn the keys out that way.
not well described and some steps are omitted but you probably get the idea.
United Kingdom
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #42 on:
December 12, 2009, 12:51:45 am »
I stille think you;re beter off casting them
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Miles (a sailor)Martin
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Just a head full of random thoughts
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #43 on:
December 12, 2009, 02:01:24 am »
Mr.waterbug where abouts are you living , I'm in new mexico, own a lathe and might be able to make a set of round dies that you could mount in a drill press to form the rolled edge. the materials i have available at this time for such an endeavor are 1018 cold rolled steel for the base, .5 drill steel rod for the punch personal message me if these materials would work , my guess as to the weight of the finshed parts would be 10 to 12 ounces max.
Miles (a sailor)Martin
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #44 on:
December 12, 2009, 04:18:36 am »
Mr Jack, I think you are right. Some steps omitted and unfortunately I didn't get the idea. If you cared to explain further I would be appreciative.
Mr Narsil, If I had a foundry then I'd be casting away. Someday I hope to. I do think one could make an interesting pattern on the key sides with a cast. The mold would not be simple I think. Pretty thin wall. But if you knew of a way...
Mr Martin, I am in Phoenix. Your assistance would be invaluable to me.
Deck Hand
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #45 on:
December 12, 2009, 04:22:47 am »
A Lathe may work, it would certainly make polishing easier, but as for bending, I dont know. My lathe (a relic form my grandfather) met its end years ago when i was wee little kid. ^Test it out, however, the results may be worth while!
To waterbug,
0.014 is the best, because that is about 0.3 mm, which is the relative thickness of most keys. Studying is perhaps the most important part, I will visit the patent office, or perhaps find a way of contacting Singer or Brother (I believe both still make sewing machines) and try to see if they will dig up the old blue prints. I will also check out Yahoo Groups, maybe there is a few sources to tap.
I hope your Neighbor can assist us, He sounds like he can walk the walk.
To Narsil,
I wouldn't mind casting, if I could easily ensure uniformity. How Ever i don't think my dice lie there.
Comeon fine chaps! We are getting there! Think of this, It seems as if a right of passage for one to steampunk their key board, becuase its easy, and you can get really crative, however it is expensive, 150-200 dollars for the keys alone! Perhaps the keys can be synthesized, and if they can, buttons would be easier to get! And even then, maybe we can chase those Key castrating crafters off ebay!
I am going to experiment with thicker tube a bit more, this time i am going to try smaller rims, at a higher temperature.
Best of luck everyone! I can almost taste the typewritery goodness!
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #46 on:
December 12, 2009, 05:56:51 am »
higher temperature
I didn't know there was any heating used in the processes?
I would be surprised if a patent search revealed anything about keys. Pretty standard manufacturing was used. But still, it would be an interesting document.
I would also be surprised if Dr Nick came through. Then again, I wouldn't be overly surprised if a flat bed appeared at my door with a 40 ton press and a full set of dies with Dr Nick saying "where do you want it". His is a character.
Good luck to you also sir and I look forward to the results.
Zeppelin Admiral
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #47 on:
December 12, 2009, 07:55:46 am »
okay I haven't got actual measurements to work with but:
say you glass key tops are 1 unit thick. you have a letter sticker and then a small snape or shaped button back all three being four units in diameter. you then slip them into a tube of copper or brass (zinc or nickle plate later for differant finishes). Then slip into the tube a spacer bead or washer that is three units in diameter or less but centered with wax to adhere to the back of the button. the spacer sould be one to two units thick. then repeat process again with glass keytop on the spacer and letter folloed by back and another spacer. fill the length of tube like this. Then by turning on a lathe you can deform the metal into the gap caused by diameter differances of the spacers and the keys themselves. The lip is formed by this on the top of the glass and the bottom of the base plate.
Then either on the lathe or after revoving it the individual keyes are cut away from one another through the spacers.and buffed smooth.
It's sort of like the technique they use to shape bell horns for musical instruments. only you are making a series of them and forming them to hold tight against the object inside. It would allow you to also vary the backing as desired for differant applications.
United States
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Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #48 on:
December 12, 2009, 08:06:47 am »
you know their is a woman on etsy that sells type writer keys ...and she gets them from her husband that has a company that refurbishes old typewriters to go to Africa for people to use in offices etc... when they fix up the type writer the Africans like them to replace they old ones with plastic keys because they like the way they feel better... if you want i can try to look her up for you.
* VanAlstyneDesigns.etsy.com
United States
Re: Reproduction Typewriter Keys
Reply #49 on:
December 12, 2009, 10:30:12 am »
Mr Jack, I think I understand. It sounds good but in practice I don't believe I could pull off such a feat. And if I could I'm not sure the rim would be to my liking if I have a proper mental image. The rounded shape of the ring that cradles one's digits is at the heart of a key's beauty.
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OSHA (Occupational Safety Health Administration) takes its mandate to protect employees' health and safety very seriously indeed. Recently in Illinois, OSHA cited a gun range, Illinois Gun Works Ltd., for 28 alleged health violations after an inspection revealed that two gun range operators were exposed to airborne lead levels up to 12 times the permissible level. Illinois Gun Works is facing potential fines that could total $111,000.
Lead is dangerous stuff. It is highly toxic to humans. In fact, there is no safe threshold for lead exposure. To put that another way, no amount of lead is too small to cause the body harm.
Both workers and patrons at indoor firing ranges are at risk of lead poisoning from exposure to hazardous levels of lead. When a gun is fired, it releases lead dust into the air, as well as lead fumes in the gun smoke. If the facility is not properly ventilated, workers and patrons can easily breathe in the lead dust and fumes. The lead dust can settle on hands, clothing, lunchroom surfaces, food or beverages, where it can be easily ingested.
Workers can also be exposed to airborne lead dust when cleaning the range, cleaning the guns or emptying bullet trays. What's more, workers and shooters both can carry lead dust home on their clothes, hair or skin, contaminating their homes and exposing their families to toxic levels of lead, which can be especially dangerous to young children.
Clearly, anyone owning or operating an indoor shooting range should want to avoid harming either their workers or their customers, not to mention avoiding $100,000+ fines! The best way to accomplish this is to operate their business in a conscientious manner that is designed to eliminate or minimize lead exposure. Proper ventilation, good housekeeping practices and basic personal hygiene are all common sense steps towards achieving a lead-free environment for workers and patrons both.
How to Test for Lead
Fortunately, there are products on the market that will help immensely with this effort. Before you can start the cleanup, you have to know where the lead is. Lead testing performed with a D-Lead® EPA-Approved Lead Detection Kit from Esca Tech will reveal the presence of lead dust on tools, countertops, clothing and pretty much anywhere that lead dust can settle, detecting the presence of lead in amounts as low as 20 micrograms. (Remember, no amount of lead is too small to cause harm.)
Once you know where the lead is, use Esca Tech's D-Lead® Concentrated All-Purpose Cleaner for the Removal of Lead Dust. D-Lead All-Purpose Cleaner lifts and suspends lead, grease, oil, dirt, lead paint dust, and firing range residue from all types or water-washable surfaces, including countertops, machinery, equipment and tools. It also prevents the transfer of hazardous lead dust from these surfaces to skin and work clothes.
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Lead poisoning is 100% preventable. It just takes shooting range operators, workers and gun enthusiasts to be aware of the risks and potential adverse health of lead exposure.
Here are a few more simple steps that can help prevent lead exposure.
- Make sure the range is well ventilated to reduce airborne lead levels at the firing line. General exhaust ventilation is not enough. A separate ventilation system should carry gun smoke away from the shooters' faces and directly downrange where it is exhausted, filtered and discharged.
- An indoor firing range should never be dry-swept. Wet-mop the range, or use a vacuum with a HEPA (High-Efficiency Particulate Air) filter to remove lead particles.
- Never smoke, eat or drink inside a firing range. It is simply too easy to ingest or inhale lead dust that may have settled on your food or in your beverage.
- After shooting, cleaning firearms, picking up spent casing pellets or reloading ammunition, wash your hands immediately.
- Before leaving the firing range facilities, change your clothes and shoes.
- Wear fully protective outer clothing and a fit-tested NIOSH-approved respirator with a HEPA filter during all firing range cleaning operations. Common paper dust masks are inadequate. Lead particles will pass right through them.
This is just a partial list of the things you need to do to avoid lead exposure. Do your homework and make sure you approach the prevention of lead exposure in the proper way. When you hear about a firing range operator possibly facing a fine of $111,000 for alleged health violations concerning exposure to lead, it gives all new meaning to the phrase, "Get the lead out!"


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Mount Rushmore, Black Hills and Badlands: An Active Discovery
Program Number:
Start and End Dates:
8/26/2012 - 9/1/2012
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6 nights
Mount Rushmore, South Dakota
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Price may vary based on date, departure city
Program Type:
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16; 6 Breakfasts, 4 Lunches, 6 Dinners
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In Mount Rushmore, Black Hills and Badlands find a landscape that is still as large as the heroes who laid a claim to it, a land once called �the last great unknown,� where some of mankind�s greatest monuments pay tribute to great leaders. From pacific grass prairies to the otherworldly Badlands to the spiritual and verdant Black Hills, gain an up-close and objective perspective of the monuments, cultures and natural treasures that are at the heart of the American experience.
� Hike amongst ethereal buttes and peaks in Badlands National Park, walk through towering pine trees in the shadow of Mount Rushmore.
� Learn about the irony of two stories told by mountain carvings within 17 miles of each other � Mount Rushmore and the Crazy Horse Memorial.
� Visit a national award-winning family winery in the heart of the Black Hills.
Activity Particulars
Hikes of 1-3 miles over uneven and rocky terrain. Optional horseback riding and kayaking, included in the program, are appropriate for beginners. Elevations of 3,500 to more than 5,000 feet.
Date Specific Information
Join Custer State Park`s Annual Buffalo Roundup.
Coordinated by Black Hills Educational Institute.
Mount Rushmore
Massive granite faces overlook the forested treetops of the Black Hills, representing the first 150 years of American history in the sculptural representation of four U.S. presidents: Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt and Lincoln. Mount Rushmore and the gateway town of Keystone attract visitors to this beautiful, storied region of the state.
Luxury lodge with a view of Mount Rushmore.
Meals and Lodgings
K Bar S Lodge
Keystone, South Dakota
6 nights
K Bar S Lodge
The K Bar S Lodge is brand new (open in spring 2006) and located with a view of Mt. Rushmore. It is quietly secluded on 31 forested acres and away from busy streets. Battle Creek winds its way throughout the property and the large meadow in front of the Lodge is often the playground for deer and turkeys.
Contact info:
434 Old Hill City Rd.
Keystone, SD 57751 USA
phone: 866-522-7724
Room amenities:
Each room is equipped with an ironing board and iron, in room coffee, hair dryer, and t.v. with remote control. Many rooms have decks with a view of Mt. Rushmore. All rooms feature highest quality Serta Presidential beds.
Facility amenities:
A beautiful lobby provides a spectacular view of Mt. Rushmore and nearby Mt. Baldy. Free coffee is available in the lobby. An elevator serves the main building. Free guest laundry is available on site.
Smoking allowed:
Elevators available:
Additional nights prior:
call for pricing Extra night room reservations may be made by contacting the K Bar S Lodge directly. 1-866-522-7724
Check in time:
Additional nights after:
call for pricing Extra night room reservations may be made by contacting the K Bar S Lodge directly. 1-866-522-7724
Check out time:
Travel Details
Start of Program:
Hotel check in 3:00pm. Orientation in K Bar S meeting room at 5:00pm. You will be staying at
K Bar S Lodge
that night.
End of Program:
Program ends after breakfast at 9:00am. Hotel check out at 11am. You will be staying at
K Bar S Lodge
the night before.
Required documents:
The Road Scholar Health & Safety Form is required.
Parking availability:
There is free parking at the K Bar S Lodge.
To Start of Program
Keystone, South Dakota
Nearest city or town:
Rapid City
Nearest highway:
Highway 16A
Nearest airport:
Rapid City Regional Airport
From End of Program
Keystone, South Dakota
Additional transportation information same as above
Travel Details
Rapid City
From Airport
Commercial Van/Shuttle
Rapid City Airport Shuttle Service
phone: 800-357-9998
Advanced Reservations Required
Per Person/One Way:
Depends on the number of people - CASH ONLY
Prices are subject to change.
Travel Time:
45 minutes
Airport Shuttle accepts CASH ONLY
Driving Directions
Denver, Colorado
The Black Hills are about 400 miles north of Denver. Several routes may be selected.
Minneapolis, MN.
Rapid City is about 600 miles west, south west of Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Rapid City, SD
The K Bar S Lodge is located just 1/3 mile west of Keystone, South Dakota on the Old Hill City Road. If you are arriving on Interstate 90 take exit 57, which becomes US Highway 16. Continue on Hwy. 16 south approximately 25 miles to a large arched wooden bridge that is the exit to US Highway 16A. This is well signed as the route to Mt. Rushmore. From this bridge continue south approximately 3 miles to Keystone. As you arrive in Keystone, you�ll approach a stop light. At this light, turn right on Old Hill City Rd. and go less than 1/2 mile to the K Bar S sign showing the address as 434 Old Hill City Road. Turn right at the sign and go onto the property. Arriving by plane at Rapid City Regional Airport, you'll drive west on US Highway 44 and into Rapid City. At the intersection with US Highway 16, turn left (south) and go approximately 20 miles to a large arched wooden bridge that is the exit to US Highway 16A. Continue as above. Driving from Denver there are many routes through Nebraska or Wyoming. If arriving through Wyoming, the best route is north from Lusk on US Highway 85 to US Highway 18 at Mule Creek Junction. Turn right, east, toward Edgemont SD. After 12 miles, turn left on US Highway 89 that will then merge 16 miles later and become US Highway 385 north. Follow 385 north through the towns of Custer and Hill City to US Highway 16. Follow Highway 16 east to 16A and proceed as Described above into Keystone and to the K Bar S. If arriving through Nebraska, the best way is through Chadron on US Highway 385. Simply follow 385 north into South Dakota to the intersection with US Highway 16 described in the Wyoming directions and come into Keystone.
Elevation Note:
Keystone is about 4,300 feet above sea level. Several of our field trips will be near 5,200 feet.
Equipment Requirements:
There is no special equipment required.
The prices listed for commercial services and facilities that are not included in the program cost, such as airport shuttles or extra nights lodging, are subject to change without notice. Since Road Scholar cannot guarantee the accuracy of these prices, we strongly suggest contacting the companies directly for the most up-to-date information.
Daily Schedule
Day 1:
Arrivals and Orientation
(Sunday, August 26)
Check in at the Lodge after 3:00 PM. There is an orientation beginning at 5:00 PM in the Lodge. Please check your final itinerary to schedule your arrival time allowing about 45min travel time from the airport to the K Bar S Lodge.
Dinner is included.
After dinner you're free to settle into your room.
K Bar S Lodge
Meals Included:
Day 2:
Custer State Park/Crazy Horse Memorial/Presentation
(Monday, August 27)
Breakfast is included.
This morning we�ll venture into Custer State Park. General Custer�s men found gold here in the summer of 1874. The park�s pine forests, grassy meadows and towers of granite offer spectacular views while also providing a remarkable, lush sanctuary for the park�s four-legged residents. Nearly 1,500 magnificent bison, along with fleet pronghorn, elusive elk, sure-footed mountain goats and a band of begging burrows freely roam the park�s sprawling 71,000 acres.
Enjoy an outdoor Western Cookout at the State Game Lodge, 1927 Summer White House to President Calvin Coolidge.
Creation of the world�s largest sculpture began on June 3, 1948 by Boston-born sculptor Korczak Ziolkowski. His work continues today with the help and dedication of his wife and 10 children at Crazy Horse Memorial. The dimensions are staggering. A mountain-sized statue of an Indian man and a spirited warhorse that�s as long as a cruise ship and taller than a 60-story skyscraper! With work now finished on the face of Crazy Horse, carving has shifted to the horses head. Because of the tremendous amount of rock overburden still left to remove and the unique engineering challenges the mountain carving presents, it will take many more years of drilling and blasting. Along with the carving, discover the rich traditional museums and gallery below the mountain.
Dinner is included.
Tonight our instructor will lecture on related information to the Black Hills and its surrounding peoples and cultures.
K Bar S Lodge
Meals Included:
Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner
Day 3:
Tatanka Sculpture and Museum/Deadwood and Lead/Presentation
(Tuesday, August 28)
Breakfast is included.
This morning, we'll continue our study of the Native American culture with a visit to Tatanka, a native interpretation center with live demonstrations. Here we'll also see the third largest bronze sculpture in the world. Commissioned by actor Kevin Costner after making his block-buster movie, Dances With Wolves, this sculpture features several Native American riders chasing buffalo over a cliff. Each piece is 125% life size and incredibly well done.
Lunch is included.
This afternoon we'll discover the historic town of Deadwood. The discovery of gold ignited a rush of yellow fever seekers to the area in 1876. From this came colorful stories, legends and legacies left behind by notorious characters like Wild Bill Hickok, Calamity Jane and Poker Alice. Learn about these historic figures and discover what spurred their desires to strike it rich in the Dakota Territory. Later in the afternoon we'll tour the historic town of Lead. The town of Lead has played a pivotal role in the history of the Black Hills. Home to the Homestake Gold Mine and sister city to the town of Deadwood, the streets of Lead tell a tale as rich as the gold mined from its hills. The Homestake Gold Mine was one of the early enterprises associated with the Gold Rush of 1876 in the northern Black Hills of what was then Dakota Territory.
Dinner is included.
Tonight our instructor will captivate us with traditional oral stories, and historic accounts of the local culture and peoples.
K Bar S Lodge
Meals Included:
Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner
Day 4:
Mount Rushmore National Memorial/The Journey Museum/Lighting Ceremony
(Wednesday, August 29)
Breakfast is included.
Amidst the emerald carpet of the Black Hills, sculptor Gutzon Borglum looked out upon craggy pine-clad mountains and saw not simply granite, but rather nature's foundation for a majestic monument. Borglum's vision became Mount Rushmore National Memorial as the noble portrayal of four of America's leaders gradually emerged from the enduring granite. The towering faces of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln embody the birth, growth, preservation and development of the United States. This morning immerse yourself in the shadow of Mount Rushmore. Learn about the monument, the land it occupies and the artist whose vision created a symbol for all of America. Optional 1/2 mile walk, for those who can handle stairs, is available to the sculptor's studio.
Lunch is included.
This afternoon we'll continue our exploration with a visit to the Journey Museum. The Journey takes you on an incredible trek through time, from the violent upheaval that formed the mystical Black Hills over 2.5 billion years ago to the continuing saga of the Western Frontier. The Journey Museum brings together four major prehistoric and historic collections to tell the complete story of the Western Great Plains - from the perspective of the Lakota peoples and the pioneers who shaped its past, to the scientists who now study it. Get a close up look at Lakota artifacts and learn why they call the Black Hills "Center of the Universe."
Dinner is included.
Tonight we'll attend the lighting ceremony at Mt. Rushmore. There is a very patriotic program presented in the open, outdoor auditorium. SUBJECT TO SEASONAL DATES.
K Bar S Lodge
Meals Included:
Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner
Day 5:
Badlands National Park/Leisure time
(Thursday, August 30)
Breakfast is included.
Today we�ll tour Badlands National Park. Time becomes difficult to comprehend as we learn about the deep canyons, towering spires and flat-topped tables of the Badlands. An inland sea covered this area 68-77 million years ago. Layers of sediment deposited over the next 75 million years give the Badlands their bands of colors while erosion continues to expose the inner most secrets of these lunar-like deposits. This land of sharp ridges, steep gullies, pyramids and knobs has been so ruthlessly ravaged by wind and water that it has become picturesque. The Badlands are a wonderland of bizarre, colorful spires and pinnacles, massive buttes and deep gorges. The forces that carved these features have not only created a unique topography; they have given a strange beauty to this almost desolate land.
Lunch is included.
Dinner is included.
K Bar S Lodge
Meals Included:
Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner
Day 6:
Ride The Historic 1880 Train to Hill City/Presentation/Hill City and the Black Hills Geological Institute
(Friday, August 31)
Breakfast is included.
Morning presentation.
Travel back in time as you ride through the beautiful back country of the Black Hills on the historic 1880 steam engine train. We'll have prime opportunity to spot a plethora of wildlife, flora and fauna. The steam engine will take us to the neighboring town of Hill City where we'll enjoy lunch.
Lunch on your own in Hill City
This afternoon enjoy the local flavor of Hill City. You may immerse yourself in the colorful art galleries and shops of this quaint town. This afternoon discover creatures from long ago with a group tour of the Black Hills Geologic Research Institute. Hop back on the iron horse for your return trip to the K Bar S where we'll enjoy our last evening together.
Tonight enjoy wine, champagne and hors d' oeuvres before dinner. This is the conclusion of the program.
K Bar S Lodge
Meals Included:
Breakfast, Dinner
Day 7:
(Saturday, September 1)
You may depart anytime after breakfast.
Meals Included:
Free Time Opportunities
Keystone, South Dakota
General Overview
There are many additional activities available during your visit to the Black Hills. This program will touch on many of the general areas of interest but can not dig deeply into all there is to see and do here. There is an interesting and detailed history about Native Americans, plains settlers, gold seekers and more. Many people come to the Black Hills for exceptional trout fishing, photography, bicycling on old rail beds, hiking, and the study of specialized interests such as geology and paleontology. There are numerous museums in Rapid City, Deadwood, Hill City, Custer and other smaller towns in the Black Hills. There is an almost endless list of public and private attractions to visit as well. Places such as Bear Country USA, Reptile Gardens, the Wild Horse Sanctuary, Wind and Jewel Caves, and dozens of other fun activities await your visit. In Keystone there is mini golf, the Presidential Wax museum, Rushmore Borglum Story, places to get your photo taken in historic costumes, gold mine tours, and much, much more. You could travel to Devil's Tower in NE Wyoming and return to the Hills by driving through beautiful Spearfish Canyon, a National Scenic Byway. There is so much to do in the Black Hills, there is a good reason the Black Hills are dubbed "Beyond All Expectations". For additional information, visit
Important information about your itinerary:
Every effort has been made to ensure the accuracy and completeness of the information featured on this website. Itineraries are based on our best information at this time. Circumstances beyond our control may require us to adjust itineraries or other details. We regret any inconvenience this may cause and appreciate your understanding. Information will be sent to you from your Program Provider approximately three weeks prior to the program start date. The prices listed for commercial services and facilities that are not included in the program cost, such as airport shuttles or extra nights lodging, are subject to change without notice. Since Road Scholar cannot guarantee the accuracy of these prices, we strongly suggest contacting the companies directly for the most up-to-date information.
You can't find a better value than Road Scholar.
As a not-for-profit organization, we are dedicated to providing all-inclusive educational programs at great value. From lectures to gratuities to field trips to accommodations - the tuition you pay up front is all that you pay.
Specifically, this program includes:
6 nights accommodations
16 meals: 6 breakfasts, 4 lunches, 6 dinners
Expert-led lectures: 5
Expert-led lectures
Led by one or more of our world-class instructors, typically in a classroom setting, lectures come in the form of presentations, discussions or workshops and offer expert insight into your area of study.
Field trips: 9
Field trips
The world is your classroom, as you're on location with an instructor to pursue your educational theme firsthand.
Performances: 1
A performance can range from a night at the opera to a visit from a local performer at your hotel.
Plus these special experiences...
Stand at the foot of our Nation's Shrine of Democracy, Mount Rushmore. Experience Washington, Jefferson, Roosevelt and Lincoln as never before.
Contrast and compare Crazy Horse Mountain Carving being carved 'in the round'. Begun in 1948, when completed, the monument will be over 500 feet tall.
Travel the lunar-like landscape that is Badlands National Monument. Sense the hardships of homesteaders in this extreme and rugged land.
Contrast the harsh Badlands to this verdant land of Custer State Park as you soak in the smell, the sights and the sounds of this incredible paradise.
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And included with all Road Scholar programs:
Learning led by expert instructors who are authorities in the field of study.
An experienced Group Leader attuned to the needs of Road Scholar participants.
Customary gratuities throughout the program that you would normally pay yourself.
The Road Scholar Travel Assistance Plan, providing 24-hour-a-day emergency assistance coverage.
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National Unfriend Day: Jimmy Kimmel's Facebook Crusade is Saturday
For the third year, Facebook users across the nation will participate in this national day — Nov. 17, this Saturday — to remove"friends" who don't really belong on the list.
"This is a day I invented to save the United States," Jimmy Kimmel said during his "Jimmy Kimmel Live" show, referring to the National Unfriend Day for Facebook users that he started in 2010.
"There are 150 million Facebook users in America alone — which is half the population," he continues in this video clip on TV.com. "And many of these people have hundreds, if not thousands, of what they call friends."
Kimmel then goes on to highlight the useless information found on one particular user's profile, and encourages people to "unfriend" such users on Nov. 17. This year, that day is Saturday.
"Don't pretend to be interested in these people, they're not your friends," he said.
"NUD is the international day when all Facebook users shall protect the sacred nature of friendship by cutting out any 'friend fat' on their pages occupied by people who are not truly their friends," according to a Facebook page for National Unfriend Day. A Facebook event invites people to participate in the "holiday" in 2012.
But, if you're thinking you'll feel bad unfriending someone — think again. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to remove someone from your newsfeed. Take it from this guy, for example, who went on an unfriending spree after a Facebook "friend" threatened to unfriend him because he disagreed with his lifestyle choices.
Dan Pearce writes in his blog "Single Dad Laughing" about the day he decided to remove 300 "friends" from Facebook:
"On Saturday I got a horribly long email from someone on Facebook in which he let me know under no uncertain terms that he was disappointed in all of my life decisions and that if I couldn't change the way I do things, he would be unfriending me on Facebook.
"I started laughing. Out loud.
"And after I wiped the tears out of my eyes, I wrote back, 'I'll make this easy for you.' I then went to his Facebook page and unfriended him."
He went on to list 35 reasons for unfriending someone, including:
- "People I always wished I was friends with in High School"
- "People I added because I thought they were someone else"
- "Friends whose last 10 or more profile pictures were of animals"
- "Relatives I don't know"
Will you participate in National Unfriend Day?
Vote in our poll that asks how many friends you have, and then tell us in the comments whether you'll participate, and why.
Apryl Snickers
2:22 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
An excellent idea. I have a lot of :"stalkers" who read but never comment or only go through and LIKE every post. True friends interact.
7:07 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Or you could just close your facebook account...
Bob McBride
10:16 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Good idea. Done. Hated the damn thing. Just never took the time to get rid of it.
Denise Lockwood
10:23 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Hey Bob,
Can you re-post without cursing? Sorry to be a pain. ;)
Bob McBride
10:31 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Actually, no, but if you want to pull it for cursing, have at it. After you're done I can point you in the direction of a whole bunch of actual cursing you can have a field day with.
10:40 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
If you are looking to censor the site for curse words/profanities, you may want to check out these pages before worrying about Bob and his use of the word 'damn'...
Jen McFarland
11:24 am on Wednesday, November 14, 2012
Hell, it's going to give me an excuse to sit down with a cocktail and actually sift through my list deleting the idiots whose garbage I have to skim over to read anything posts from those worth my time, not the handfuls with morbid curiousity of what I've been doing since high school. Can't wait!!!!
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Refusing to be Silenced
By Francesca Ernst on
July 25, 2012
Last summer, 17-year-old Savannah Dietrich was sexually assaulted by two teenage boys. Not only did they attack her, they also took photographs of the incident and shared with others. The two teenage boys recently accepted what Dietrich found to be a lenient plea bargain and have yet to be sentenced. In the meantime, court rules legally prevented Dietrich from ever speaking publicly about her attack and its perpetrators.
New Polling: Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) and Elizabeth Esty (CT-05)
By Alison McQuade on
July 24, 2012
Our WOMEN VOTE! team rocks. They have new polling data – and it's a big deal. Tulsi Gabbard (HI-02) is gaining rapidly on her opponent, and our polls show she has a path to victory. Tulsi is a veteran and one of the youngest legislative leaders in the country. She's eager to get to Washington to stop the War on Women
Women Helping Women in Illinois
By Alison McQuade on
July 24, 2012
EMILY's List superstar, Congresswoman Gwen Moore of Wisconsin recently visited Rockford, IL to lend a helping hand to her EMILY's List sister, Cheri Bustos, who is running for Congress in Illinois's 17th district.
WOMEN VOTE! hits the airwaves for Tulsi Gabbard
By Ryan Sims on
July 23, 2012
There are only a couple weeks left in one of this year's most competitive primaries. That's why WOMEN VOTE! is up on the air right now in Hawai'i making sure voters know about Tulsi Gabbard's critical race. Tulsi's an amazing candidate who has served her community in incredible ways. We know she'll make an outstanding Congresswoman.
Hanging out with Face the Nation
By Francesca Ernst on
July 19, 2012
CBS News Chief White House correspondent Norah O'Donnell recently invited EMILY's List president Stephanie Schriock and leading political strategists Leslie Sanchez, Michelle Bernard, and Maria Cardona to a Google+ Hangout. The issue du jour? The war on women and the importance of women voters in the upcoming election.
We've Never Seen an Election like This – But We're Up to the Challenge!
By Samantha Lachman on
July 18, 2012
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Weekly Candidate Social News Round Up
By Francesca Ernst on
July 16, 2012
It's the prime of summer but our candidates are hard at work connecting with supporters—both online and off! Check out what they've been up to and click the links below to keep them going strong in the summer months! Mazie Hirono spent last Saturday "Bon dancing the night away" at annual the Moili'ili Summer Festival.
"This vote is personal" - EL Candidates Stand Up for Obamacare & Women's Health
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Top 5 Republicans we want to beat
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July 13, 2012
This November, EMILY's List women are facing far-right Republicans and Tea Party candidates who have dangerous views on women's health, Obamacare, the Violence Against Women Act, fair pay for women and so much more. But our candidates know what's best for women and families and will stand up against right-wing extremists. We've already told you a lot about our Democratic women, but we wanted to introduce you to our current Top 5 list of abhorrent Republicans to beat. 5 Worst Republicans to Defeat
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10:34 am Sep. 14, 20124
Tony Ortega, editor of The Village Voice, announced this morning on the weekly's news blog, Runnin' Scared, that he's leaving the paper.
"Next week will be my last as editor of the Voice," Ortega wrote. "I will be leaving to pursue a book proposal about Scientology in its time of crisis."
Ortega came to the Voice in March of 2007 from another alt weekly in South Florida, the Broward-Palm Beach New Times, owned by the Voice's parent company, after working in other papers in Phoenix, Los Angeles, and Kansas City for the chain.
It was a tempestuous time for the paper. After the Voice was acquired by New Times Media in 2005 (changing its name to Village Voice Media to align itself with its newly acquired flagship title) editor-in-chief Don Forst resigned. His replacement, Doug Simmons, was fired early the next year after a scandal over fabricated stories; the paper's search resulted in hiring City Paper veteran Erik Wemple, who resigned within two weeks under mysterious circumstances. 2006 was also the year the paper fired music editor Chuck Eddy and the "dean" of rock critics, Robert Christgau.
David Blum followed Wemple, but lasted just a year, amid controversy over a heated editorial meeting.
In the years since Village Voice Media took over the paper, many of the paper's biggest names have been fired or quit, including Tom Robbins, Wayne Barrett, Nat Hentoff, J. Hoberman, Lynn Yaeger and Rachel Kramer Bussel.
Ortega points out that he's written 465 blog posts on Scientology in the last two years, or about one per day-and-a-half, even as his newspaper has weathered several bouts of serious downsizing. It's part of what has been strange about the last couple of years of his editorship of the paper: While Village Voice Media usually encourages its papers to be relentlessly local, Ortega's been an almost obsessive chronicler of the scandals surrounding the very Hollywood-centric religious organization. Sources told Capital that both the newsroom and the sales side of the Voice had become increasingly uncomfortable with the volume of Scientology coverage Ortega was churning out.
"We thought it was destroying the Voice brand," said one former staffer.
Ortega did not respond to requests for comment. We also have an email out to Village Voice Media executive editor Mike Lacey, and will update if we hear back.
Ortega's avidity about Scientology was part of what made his farewell post, his first public announcement of his exit, seem so obscure: The title of the post was "Scientology Watchers: A Message from Tony Ortega," and his lament for his exit is almost exclusively focused on the online community of the Scientology-obsessed he has built on the paper's news blog. Entirely missing are the typical "thank yous" and "I'll miss working with yous" to writers and other staff at the Voice.
(UPDATE: Ortega updated his Runnin' Scared item with the farewell memo he sent to staff this morning: "Thanks for helping me get back some of that early Voice spirit over the last five and a half years, even as we were dealing with the Print Apocalypse in general, and a building seemingly forever under construction in particular.")
We'd heard that there were also going to be more layoffs at the Voice this morning, but we've only heard about one so far. This morning, writer, editor and music critic for the Voice Maura Johnston tweeted that it was her last day at the paper.
well it's my last day at the village voice. it's been fun. thanks to @harvilla and @xzachbaronx and @voicetonyo for believing in me.
— maura johnston (@maura) September 14, 2012
We're told Johnston was laid off this morning; last week, Village Voice Media put LA Weekly music editor Ben Westhoff in charge of all of the company's music coverage. Her exit follows a round of layoffs that claimed the jobs of three editorial staffers last month.
The Voice also is preparing to relocate from its long-time Cooper Square headquarters.
Lately the newspaper has been at the forefront of a local controversy involving its parent company, Village Voice Media, which owns the website Backpage.com. The online classifieds site is seen by many advocates for victims of sex trafficking as a marketplace for traffickers; in May, the City Council passed a resolution calling on the company to get rid of its "adult services" classifieds section; the continuing protests have also cost the newspaper advertisers.
Tony Ortega has brought an enviable number of comments and clicks to the VV website.
His persistence and social conscience have earned him a top spot amongst investigative journalists.
It's a shame to see him leave.
Not to mention the revolving bloggers they had -- Foster Kamer, Averie Timm, Jen Doll (though I was never fan of her after that ignorant How To Be A New Yorker article). But they also started hiring these out-of-towner young attractive transplants who knew nothing about the EV or NYC culture and history, e.g. Rosie Gay. And also not a fan of Maura Johnston either, I mean she's a great music writer and overall writer but turned me off when she neglected a lot of New York musicians in that article about musicians from New York. But I'm sure she'll land on her feet well. Maybe Rolling Stone or Spin will pick her up.
As for the VV, "Print Apocalypse", I'm sorry Ortega, but the web isn't the problem; you and the Village Voice Media are. VV lost me, even though the print copy is for free, after Tom Robbins and Wayne Barrett left and that whole debacle with pornography. Norman Mailer's vision died when that company from Phoenix took over.
I wonder though if they're still going to have that VV web awards this year. The first one was fun. The second one sucked.
I for one love Tony Ortega's blog and will miss the updates in the Scientology watching community - all of us will. But I am also excited at the prospect of him writing a book on the subject! With the resources he has cultivated over the past 17 years, it is bound to be a definitive work on the subject. Thank you Tony O.! Here's hoping you get that book done FAST!
something just doesn't add up.... he was regularly getting a thousand+ comments [LA times is lucky to hit 3 figures].... he was all over the TV networks.... Scientology are BIIIIG right now and getting bigger.
he's pretty much THE source for all proper and correct info on the cult....
so, pushed out?


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