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Short Cuts [DVD]
Director : Robert Altman
Screenplay : Robert Altman & Frank Barhydt (based on the writings of Raymond Carver)
MPAA Rating : R
Year of Release : 1993
Stars : Andie MacDowell (Ann Finnigan), Bruce Davison (Howard Finnigan), Jack Lemmon (Paul Finnigan), Julianne Moore (Marian Wyman), Matthew Modine (Dr. Ralph Wyman), Anne Archer (Claire Kane), Fred Ward (Stuart Kane), Jennifer Jason Leigh (Lois Kaiser), Chris Penn (Jerry Kaiser), Lili Taylor (Honey Bush), Robert Downey Jr. (Bill Bush), Madeleine Stowe (Sherri Shepard), Tim Robbins (Gene Shepard), Lily Tomlin (Doreen Piggot), Tom Waits (Earl Piggot), Frances McDormand (Betty Weathers), Peter Gallagher (Stormy Weathers), Annie Ross (Tess Trainer), Lori Singer (Zoe Trainer), Lyle Lovett (Andy Bitkower), Buck Henry (Gordon Johnson), Huey Lewis (Vern Miller)
Raymond Carver summed up the power of his own writing when he said, "It's possible to write about commonplace things and objects using commonplace but precise language, and to endow these things--a chair, a window curtain, a fork, a stone, a woman's earring--with immense, even startling power."
Thus, it seems almost destiny that Robert Altman, whom Pauline Kael once described as "the most atmospheric of directors," would be the filmmaker to adapt Carver's work to the screen. After all, Altman's invigorating long takes, simple compositions, and subtle attention to detail are the cinematic equivalent of Carver's unadorned, but deeply effective prose. Both men are fascinated by the depths of humanity—the strangeness behind the banality, as some have put it—and Short Cuts represents a triumph of one artist's voice speaking through another's.
Altman and coscreenwriter Frank Barhydt (Quintet) took nine of Carver's short stories and one of his poems and wove them together into a continuous story with no real beginning, middle, or end. Rather, it is truly a slice of life divided up among the interlocking actions of 22 characters. Altman and Barhydt made the decision to relocate the story from the working-class Northwestern settings Carver favored to the suburbs of Los Angeles, a move that angered many Carver fans, but makes sense within the film's worldview. By setting it in Los Angeles, Altman was able to expand Carver's characters and situations outside of a fairly restricted milieu and into a grand melting pot. The size and scope of Los Angeles--not just as a city, but as an idea--heightens the film's sense of randomness and fate, which is what so many of Carver's stories were about.
Norman Mailer suggested that Short Cuts is the novel that Carver never wrote, and it's an apt description of the film because it takes bits and pieces of Carver's work—beautiful and penetrating in their own right—and stitches them together into something even more meaningful. The film's triumph is the way Altman forges the connections among the stories, interweaving them in ways that accentuate Carver's themes about the randomness of life and the power of seemingly inconsequential everyday moments.
If there is a binding theme that connects the interwoven stories, it is that of death. The film begins with helicopters spraying Los Angeles with chemicals to control a medfly infestation, immediately establishing the fragility of life in all its various forms (a television news program that provides the film's first spoken words is eerily prescient in mentioning both "international terrorists" and "Iraq," harbingers of death that were as prominent in people's minds in 1993 as they are today).
Most of the stories then hinge on some form of violence, latent or explicit. There is the couple (Andie McDowell and Bruce Davison) whose son is hit by a car and lies comatose in a hospital, possibly on the verge of death. Their neighbors are an aging jazz diva (Annie Ross) and her possibly suicidal daughter (Lori Singer) who is a classically trained cellist. Ross and Singer's characters are the only ones who were invented whole-cloth for the film, and their music--the discordant conflict between bluesy jazz and classical--is the film's nervous system, creating aural links from one story to the next.
The driver who hit the boy (Lily Tomlin) is a blue-collar waitress having problems with her alcoholic husband (Tom Waits), and she is blessedly (or terribly) unaware of the severity of her actions because the boy got up and walked home, succumbing to his head injury only later. Meanwhile, the waitress's daughter (Lili Taylor) is married to a special effects make-up artist (Robert Downey, Jr.) whose job is to create for the camera the illusion of death, taken to a blackly comedic extreme when he uses his wife as a practice model for recreating a moment of domestic abuse.
Death also cuts through the story of a man (Fred Ward) who goes fishing with a couple of buddies (Buck Henry and Huey Lewis) and finds a girl's corpse floating in the river. Their decision to wait several days to alert the authorities lest their fishing trip be ruined distresses his wife (Anne Archer), who works as a clown at birthday parties and, yes, the children's ward at the hospital. Ward and Archer are connected to another couple, a doctor (Matthew Modine) and his artist wife (Julianne Moore), who they met at a symphony and are scheduled to have dinner together, although they obviously come from different social strata and have little in common. Furthermore, Modine's doctor is the one in charge of caring for McDowell and Davison's injured son.
Madeline Stowe plays the sister of Julianne Moore's character. Stowe is married to a egotistical, pathologically lying police officer (Tim Robbins), whose very presence in a film made so close on the heels of the Rodney King verdict and the subsequent L.A. riots carried an inevitable suggestion of institutionalized violence, even though Robbins abuses his authority status mainly to pick up women and get rid of the family dog he hates so much.
Most disturbing, though, is a pool cleaner played by Chris Penn, whose wife (Jennifer Jason Leigh) is a phone sex worker who plies desperate men with dirty talk while nonchalantly changing her baby's diapers or picking at her toes. The disconnect between the wife's sexually explicit profession and the banality of the household chores she takes care of while working the phone is a blatant metonym for Carver and Altman's fascination with the difference between appearance and reality. This is then reflected in Penn's character, who seems fairly placid on the surface, but whose inner fury is constantly being brought to a boil, one that will eventually blow up in the worst possible way.
Despite the film's attention to the constant presence of death in life, that is hardly a summation of what Short Cuts is about, and part of its power and what makes it memorable is that different people will walk away from it with different senses of what it's "about." Altman has described Carver's work as being composed not of stories, but of "occurrences," and in Short Cuts he pays his greatest tribute to Carver not by being slavishly devoted to the source material, but by assembling Carver's occurrences into a meaningful mosaic without forcing too much order on them. There is no rigid structure holding them up, and while the film does build to a violent climax of sorts, it doesn't force any tidy conclusions or even grand statements about what it all means. Rather, Altman is content to let the film represent life in all its messy, inexplicable wonder—full of moments of beauty and tragedy, consequence and silliness.
Short Cuts Criterion Collection Directed-Approved Two-Disc DVD Set | ||
Aspect Ratio | 2.35:1 | |
Anamorphic | Yes | |
Audio | | |
Subtitles | English | |
Supplements | | |
Distributor | The Criterion Collection / Home Vision Entertainment | |
Release Date | November 16, 2004 | |
The new anamorphic widescreen transfer on this disc, which was supervised by editor Geraldine Peroni and approved by Robert Altman, was made from a 35mm interpositive struck from the original negative. The colors on this transfer are particularly bold, although the image itself seems slightly soft. This may be because it was shot in Super35, which doesn't allow for quite the same resolution as true CinemaScope once it's cropped down to 2.35:1. Nevertheless, the image has good detail and a warm, filmlike appearance. The MTI Digital Restoration System was used to clean up the image (although, since the film is only 11 years old, I'd like to think it wasn't too dirty and scratched up to begin with). | ||
The Dolby Digital 5.1 surround soundtrack was mastered at 24-bit from the original 6-track magnetic audio master and sounds great. The combination of jazz and classical music comes across beautifully. The disc also features an isolated music track. | ||
Most of the supplements in this two-disc set were ported over from the 1994 Criterion laser disc. These include two brief deleted scenes and an extended, alternate version of the scene between Andie McDowell, Bruce Davison, and Lyle Lovett in the bakery. Also from the laser disc are original demo recordings of the songs used in the film, as well as the 90-minute documentary Luck, Trust, and Ketchup: Robert Altman in Carver Country, an in-depth look at the making of the film that includes extensive behind-the-scenes footage and interviews with virtually everyone involved in the film in front of and behind the camera. The section on marketing is particularly instructive in how difficult it was to sell the film, as it shows literally dozens of poster designs, two theatrical trailers, and six TV spots, all of which are completely different. New to the DVD is a videotaped conversation between Altman and Tim Robbins and an excerpt from the BBC television program Moving Pictures about the film. There is also more supplementary material on Raymond Carver, including an hour-long audio interview with the author conducted in 1983 and a PBS documentary on his life titled To Write and Keep Kind. One of the nicest touches of this DVD is that it is packaged with a nicely designed softback book of the nine stories and one poem that were adapted to make the film. The laser disc set also included these stories, but they were CAV supplements on the discs themselves, so you had to read them on your TV screen, which is sometimes hard on the eyes. |
Copyright ©2004 James Kendrick
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In Turned (Book #1 of the Vampire Journals series), 18-year-old Caitlin Paine finds herself uprooted from her nice suburb and forced to attend a dangerous New York City high school when her Mom moves again. The one ray of light in her new surroundings is Jonah, a new classmate who takes an instant liking to her.
But before their romance can blossom, Caitlin suddenly finds herself changing. She is overcome by a superhuman strength, a sensitivity to light, a desire to feed - by feelings she does not understand. She seeks answers to what's happening to her, and her cravings lead her to the wrong place at the wrong time. Her eyes are opened to a hidden world, right beneath her feet, thriving underground in New York City. She finds herself caught between two dangerous covens, right in the middle of a vampire war.
It is at this moment that Caitlin meets Caleb, a mysterious and powerful vampire who rescues her from the dark forces. He needs her to help lead him to the legendary lost artifact. And she needs him for answers, and for protection. Together, they will need to answer one crucial question: who was her real father?
But Caitlin finds herself caught between two men as something else arises between them: a forbidden love. A love between the races that will risk both of their lives, and will force them to decide whether to risk it all for each other.
©2011 Morgan Rice (P)2011 Morgan Rice
"Turned is an ideal story for young readers. Morgan Rice did a good job spinning an interesting twist on what could have been a typical vampire tale. Refreshing and unique, Turned has the classic elements found in many Young Adult paranormal stories. Book #1 of the Vampire Journals Series focuses around one girl…one extraordinary girl!... Turned is easy to read but extremely fast-paced.... Recommended for anyone who likes to read soft paranormal romances. Rated PG." (The Romance Reviews)
"Turned grabbed my attention from the beginning and did not let go…. This story is an amazing adventure that is fast paced and action packed from the very beginning. There is not a dull moment to be found. Morgan Rice did an awesome job bringing the reader into the story. She also made it easy to root for Caitlin and want desperately to her succeed in finding her truth…. I will be looking forward to the second book in the series." (Paranormal Romance Guild)
""Twilight" meets "The Outsiders""
Yes, very much so!- It is edgier and grittier that the other vampire sagas out there. The focused narration by Brianna Knickerbocker perfectly suits the slow build up of the story!
The moment when Caitlin realizes this will not be an ordinary move to a new school!
The entire book was very moving- but I loved the initial meeting between Caitlin and Jonah!
can't wait to listen to the next books in the series and hopefully Brianna Knickerbocker will be the narrator!
"Great start to a new series!"
This is such a unique view of the vampire world and a great beginning to the series. It got my attention from the very beginning and I didn't want to stop listening.
Caitlin is 18 and starting another new school. She starts to notice she is changing in strange ways. She is stronger and faster and she is sooo thirsty. She doesn't have a clue whats going on.
Things happen......and Caitlin is running for her life. She is being chased by cops and vampires at the same time.
Caitlin unknowingly gets herself in the middle of a vampire cold-war with only one vampire on her side. Caleb seems to be the dark brooding type and also seems to be bored with his long life until he sees Caitlin survive something she shouldn't be able to.
The characters are interesting, some nice and some are pretty evil. There are lots of good action and fighting scenes throughout the book that I totally enjoyed!
This is a great book!!
A friend suggested I read this book. Having never read any of the Vampire books I didn't know what to expect. I thoroughly enjoyed this book so I would recommend it to a friend. I didn't want it to end. I found out that this is the first book in the Vampire Journals series and the story continues in successive books. I love to read books that are written as a series because when you find a good story you want it to go on and on. I will definitely read the next book as I am anxious to find out what happens next and if there will be a Vampire War.
This is my first Vampire book.
I liked the scene where Caitlin was captured by a rival Vampire clan, taken back to the place where they lived, subjected to an inquisition, threatened by Holy Water which had no effect on her, and how she subsequently escaped.
I have to disagree with the previous reviewer's comments about the narrator. I am an avid listener of audiobooks and have heard all types of narration. The narrator does read slowly but I felt it was deliberately read in this manner to set the tone and worked quite well with story, sort of like the way one would read a ghost story.
"Good story"
I'd recommend it to anyone who's read and liked The Vampire Diaries or anything similar.
This is a good one to move onto. I'm going to see what the other series is like too.
Probably the dead end alley scene. Anyone who has read it will know what I mean. I hate it when people put spoilers in reviews, so no I won't say any spoilers here.
Tried to listen all in one sitting. It isn't too long, but it's not that short.
Too short. Good it's a series.
"Turned by Morgan Rice"
I have a disability and being able to listen to the book instead of reading it was an awesome experience for me.
This is the first book I have had the pleasure to listen to and it was easier than taking the time to read it the first time.
I sometimes miss words or phrases and have to read them more than once to be able to understand the whole meaning of the sentences. It was easier to listen to it because if I needed to listen to it again i could just hit the back button and it automatically holds my place for me to pick it up again. Brianna was a great reader, I could understand everything she said. She also has a very pleasing voice. She does a great job.
I loved this book and I cant wait to be able to hear book number two in the Vampire Journals.Morgan is an awesome writer and leaves you wanting more. The book captivated me from beginning to end and kept me wondering what was going to happen next. Once I got started, I didn't want to stop listening. This book is like going on one of the best roller coaster rides ever. All of my feelings came into play and it left me wanting to know more about the characters. I can actually relate to them.. Kudo's to Morgan for keeping me entertained.
This book is a must read for anyone who is into the Vampire genre. You get a little action, some mystery and a love story to boot. This book has it all. I give it 5 stars.
"An all time favorite!"
Some of the most real characters, that are truly identifiable and relatable, and make you so excited to find out where the story will take them next
I love both Caitlin and Caleb, but I can't imagine the story without any of the characters
The entire series (and the series that directly follows) are a must read for any fan of supernatural fiction!
EOD wife and loving mother!!!
"Horrible narrator"
No, the narrarator was terrible.
Read it instead.
No way!!!!!
Yes, but I'm not sure of the actors.
The narrarator speaks WAY too slow!
Wife to a wonderful husband and mother to four children, ages 17 to 9 (boys and girls). My husband and I are avid audiobook listeners along with all the kids. Between all of us we have a very eclectic library and try to rate or review as many books as we can.
Great story line but the narrator Brianna Knickerbocker was so slow in speaking that I had to turn the speed up to 1 1/2 times just to get through the book. Her voice just dragged and dragged plus I have never met a teenager who spoke that slowly in my life (having two teenage girls). After turning the books speed faster I could finally enjoy the storyline and it had some great twists.
"Great plot, great charaters, bad reading"
No I wont listen again. Book 2 is same reader but much better...........its worth listening to this book so you understand the characters more later on. But thats all!
"Never been more disappointed in a vampire series"
There were little to no refrences to what kind of vampire lore she was using for the series and I read the next two books just to make sure I didn't like it and the continuing story like makes no sense there's no continuity of the storyline and her writing gets more redundant and amaturish while shes trying to make it look like the charachters are evolving its like....a 13 year old girl with a 5th grade reading level and a thesaurus wrote it
No thanks
Lorilei King or Tavia Gilbert
No it made no sense read the next 2 books and it makes even less sense its annoying
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Parents Talk: Do You Talk to Your Kids About Politics?
Use this forum to discuss kid issues with other parents. This week, we tackle children and politics.
Election Day may be over, but that doesn't mean we will stop hearing about politics any time soon.
This varies widely with age of course, but many kids want to know what is being talked about on TV, the radio and at family gatherings. So when political chatter arises, do you explain to your children what's being talked about or do you give a general answer?
Do you feel like your kids should believe what you do or make up their own minds?
"Of course, part of the cool thing about being a parent is creating 'mini-me's,' and in Washington that means creating a new generation of party members, regardless of what party you're affiliated with," wrote Tracy Grant in a Washington Post blog.
And, what if your family is split on an issue/candidate or you're not ready to explain a given issue to your child yet?
How do you handle kids and politics? Tell us in the comments are below.
9:08 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I thinking talking to your children about politics is important. Talking to them about our beliefs is very important, but we also explain that every one has their own opinion and beliefs. My 6yo has been very interested and has asked many questions. It's been fun to see him get excited about the election and to try to understand the differences in the candidates.
Randy Bachman
11:14 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Family values and political values go hand in hand. Just think if our government leaders shared a meal at the dinner table. Maybe they could actually talk, and get something done. The current leader of the household isn't doing his job!
Al Tate
1:54 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Randy, the leader of the house needs support from all members of the family. If everyone just bickers and complains and undermines what the leader is trying to accomplish, nothing gets done. And if the leader really wasn't doing his job, then why did this current leader get re-elected? What does it say for the challenger? How bad must have he been then?
James Sanna
2:56 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
What about talking politics with your parents (or uncles/aunts/grandparents)? Anyone have any tips they want to share, now that Thanksgiving's on its way...?
Becky Glander
10:17 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Good point, James. It seems there is always a relative or 2 who have very loud opinions (usually ones you don't agree with). How do you set a good example for your kids when you want to speak up?
Ruth Olson-Martin
8:50 am on Friday, November 9, 2012
Wanting to "speak up" may be what parents are doing wrong in front of their kids. All kids learn is how to argue and try to win with verbal arguments....that is for law school. The best thing is to put the energy wanting to argue into physical getting involved with personally working with candidates to get to know their values first-hand, rather than getting upset by what arguers love to spread...bad influence on our kids. Get involved at the city council level to know first-hand, bring children to meetings to observe...discuss how others behaved on the way home, was it helpful, was it against the way we want to behave, etc. When we as parents talk too much with showing our upset, that bothers kids in ways we can't imagine.
12:46 pm on Friday, November 9, 2012
When it comes to politics, there's a difference between telling your kids what you as a parent believe versus telling them that your beliefs are the correct ones. I think that's the fundamental problem with my generation, and possibly the baby boomers. The older I get, the more it seems that intolerance is the reason that's polarizing this nation.
I also think that the media and mass communication has a factor in this trend.
3:01 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012
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5:24 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I recently finished work with 7 Minneapolis middle schoolers who interviewed 12 family, friends and colleagues of Paul and Sheila Wellstone. The ultimate take-away for the book they helped write, "Be the Change," is that: 1) it is important to know what you stand for -- and then stand for it even if it is unpopular; 2) one individual can make a big difference in the world simply by respectfully listening to people whose voices don't often get heard, and then organizing a collective voice to help them speak -- at the polls, in the legislature, with community leaders.
And yes.... I think it's never too early to share that true message. From page 58: When we asked Dan Cramer [Grassroots Solutions founder] about Paul's greatest accomplishment, he said that it probably was not a single piece of legislation that Paul helped get passed. He thinks Paul would say that it was his visits to Minnesota schools, into communities all across the state, having conversations with kids about politics, about what is going on in the world. "He talked with thousands of kids about the future. 'That's the most important thing I did,' I think Paul would say."


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Eastern New Mexico University's president said Tuesday he expects the college's eligibility issues to be cleared up by mid-November.
He also expects some form of punishment from the NCAA because athletes were missing paperwork required to be kept by the college's compliance office.
Steven Gamble has noted that the eligibility questions have been self-reported, and were not the errors of student-athletes.
"There's been nothing discovered by anybody except us," Gamble said. "We've discovered no financial improprieties. We've found no intentional cheating by student-athletes or by coaches. It transcends virtually all the sports we have."
The compliance officer during the time of the violations is no longer with the university.
Gamble declined comment on administrative errors.
The university has 11 sports affected by the eligibility issues. The only teams not affected are the rodeo teams, which do not fall under the umbrella of the NCAA.
"We're doing the fall sports now, because those are the ones in session," Gamble said. "We're going to get to baseball and softball and the others, and I don't know what we're going to find there. But we're trying to get the people in the fall sports eligible right away."
In many cases, Gamble said, the item was cleared up with a signature, "but ineligible is ineligible." The ineligibilities stem from four categories, Gamble said:
• Certificate of amateurism: The certificate, signed by student-athletes, is an individual assertion the student-athlete in question is an amateur and is not accepting any money or benefits beyond official incentives from the university (i.e. tuition, living stipends).
• Lack of degree plans: By the end of a student-athlete's fourth semester in college, Gamble said, a degree plan must be on file with their respective college. The plan lists classes completed toward a degree, and what classes remain to be completed. Any class a student-athlete takes to stay eligible must be on that degree plan.
"We had a number of students that did not have their degree plan by the end of the fourth semester and continued to play," Gamble said.
• The 75 percent rule. The rule says 75 percent of credit hours earned to establish eligibility must be completed in the fall and spring semesters.
"We had a certification officer (for that purpose)," said Gamble. "That was the job of that individual, and not the coaches. It would have been nice if the coaches were tracking that as well, but we got over-dependent on one individual."
• "Common, everyday ineligible," Gamble said. The athletes just didn't pass enough credit hours to qualify, and were cleared anyway.
"I don't think we had very many of those," Gamble said.
The university has limited its search to current student-athletes, for a total of 408. The files of the approximate 100 freshman student-athletes on file are easier to work through because degree plans and the 75 percent rule aren't concerns yet. Other students have files going back numerous years, and one appeal for a student takes around four hours to complete and submit to the NCAA, Gamble said.
"The reason they haven't (acted on the university) is they don't know what is the scope of this," Gamble said. "We're still telling them. We're literally sending something to them every day. To their credit, they're responding very quickly. There will be a penalty to pay. We don't know what it's going to be."
In many cases, Gamble said, the NCAA reviews the report and grants or denies eligibility within hours. There have been around 10 instances where eligibility was not granted, but the NCAA has often given ENMU additional steps to clear up any issue.
"I don't want to speculate (on punishments), but we'll do whatever the NCAA tells us to do," Gamble said. "The bottom line is, we did play ineligible players."


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Title: | On Exponentially Perfect Numbers Relatively Prime to 15 |
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Description: | If the natural number n has the canonical form p1a1p2a2⋯prar, then we say that an exponential divisor of n has the form d = p1b1p2b2⋯prbr, where bi|ai for i = 1, 2, … r. We denote the sum of the exponential divisors of n by σ(e)(n). A natural number n is said to be exponentially perfect (or e-perfect) if σ(e)(n) = 2n. The purpose of this thesis is to investigate the existence of e-perfect numbers relatively prime to 15. In particular, if such numbers exist, are they bounded below? How many distinct prime divisors must they have? Several lemmas are utilized throughout the paper on route to answering these questions. Also, computer programs written in Maple are used for numerical estimates. |
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by Florian Flade
A Saudi student living in Texas is accused of plotting a terrorist attack inside the United States. His apparent target list included former President George W.Bush, US-Soldiers who have served in Abu Ghraib and Dallas Night Clubs. On his blog the Saudi Chemistry student left some interesting entries, drawing the path to radicalization of just the latest of America´s al-Qaida inspired "Lone Wolves of Terror".
From the Online traces Khalid Ali-M al-Dawsari (or Khalid Alim al-Dosari), a 21 year-old Saudi national and student of Chemical Engineering, left behind, he does not seem to fit into the common profile of a Jihadi Terrorist. On his blog, Khalid wrote about life, about girls he admired, about poetry and how he felt starting a major-student´s life in America. Then, out of the sudden al-Dawsari was talking about Jihad and martyrdom.
The FBI investigated the Saudi student and arrested Khalid al-Dawsari yesterday on charges of terrorism. He is now accused of plotting a attack with a weapon of mass destruction inside the United States. Counter-terrorism officials believe al-Dawsari planned on producing explosives with obtained chemicals and then targeting places inside the US – possibly former President George W. Bush in his Dallas residence.
On his blog, Khalid al-Dawsari, who will appear in court tomorrow, left some interesting traces about his life in the US, providing the reader with his thoughts about Americans and their way of life.
Khalid Alim Al-Dawsari came into the United States in September 2008 and joined a English-Language Program for second language students in October 2008. By August 2009 he finished the program and by then had gained enough language skills to enlist into Texas Tech University (TTU) in Lubbock, Texas. He started his major studies in Chemical Engineering.
Soon after his arrival in the US, in December 2008, Khalid al-Dawsari had started a blog, a diary were he posted poetry and events that happened in his life. His first blog post though, was not about his move to the US or his studies at Lubbock TTU, but about a woman – a Italian actress and model named Anna Valle.
"Anna if there is just one great moon you will be my stars and rare moons. Anna, you are my universe which is the perfection with out human beings", al-Dawsari wrote. The next day, the Saudi student wrote about a girl he had met in Texas. "My first time I saw her in real life was in a football game between my university Vanderbilt and University of Tennessee", the blog entry reads, "I saw her there and she was the seats that under mine. She was gorgeous. She saw me in moments again and again. She looked at me repeatedly in few moments. It was something I will never forget…I just want her. I want her."
During May 2009, when al-Dawsari was learning English in Nashville, Tennessee, he wrote about his dreams of becoming a Google employee. "This is an opportunity to be in the US to achieve my dream that I am working very hard and I am doing my best to catch it, that dream is mainly and simply to be an employee in google which is not impossible to achieve even if it is hard but it is still not impossible because there is nothing impossible for me and I can do it, yeah I can be an employee in google."
While in the English-program, the Saudi student got to know other Arabic-speakers. Al-Dawsaris language partner though – was a woman named Sarah. In May 2009, al-Dawsari and the others made an academic trip to Siloam Springs in Arkansas. "I think Siloam reflects the volunteering which is a huge part of the American culture that I totally respect and admire", al-Dawsari wrote on his blog about the trip, "In addition, the volunteers weren't all Christians, white, …etc specifically they weren't belong to one race or religion."
Al-Dawsari liked to watch American movies. For him, they kind of reflected the American lifestyle. "I think this movie illustrate some of the American culture in the way that people pursue their happiness via money but that doesn't mean all Americans would commit crimes for either money or happiness", he wrote about a movie he saw.
In summer 2009, Khalid al-Dawsari thought about buying a car in the US. He did not know how to find a proper used car. Back in Saudi-Arabia he had watched some US shows about cars, especially the infamous "Pimp my ride" and now blogged about the things he observed in the US – "I think cars for Americans are like a wife, so the wife has to be beautiful, good family, pricy and precious." Finally on September 19 2009, al-Dawsari bought a car, a Hyundai Sonata 2006 and registered it on October 5 2009.
The Saudi chemistry student obviously traveled back to the Saudi Kingdom in July 2009 for a short visit, sending his language-training partner Sarah a warm greeting from his Arabian homeland. In mid-August 2009, Khalid al-Dawsari arrived in Lubbock, Texas, were he became a student of Texas Tech University. "I arrived in Lubbock, TX one week ago", al-Dawsari wrote on his blog, "Texas Tech University is very nice one and I like it. They have a good football team, so probably I will enjoy the city and the life here." Apparently this is the housing complex al-Dawsari lived in.
For months, al-Dawsari´s blog had no new posts. Then, on March 11, the Saudi student posted a chilling all-Arabic message – "You who created mankind and who is knowledgeable of what is in the womb, grant me martyrdom for Your sake and make Jihad easy for me (…) make me reside in the high heaven eternally forever." A month later, on April 8, Khalid al-Dawsari again posted a Arabic entry on his blog. "If this is the West´s version of freedom, and their peace policy, we have our own policies in freedom and it is war until the infidels (…) leave defeated."
There is no hint given on why al-Dawsari´s blog postings suddenly turned into political and religious messages of hate and Jihad. What had influenced the then 20 year-old Saudi-Arab from September 2009 to March 2010 remains unknown.
In the following months the Saudi citizen Khalid al-Dawsari began research on the internet on how to build explosive devices, instructions on how to create a bomb detonator out of a mobile phone and how to produce explosives. Al-Dawsari sent several e-mails to his own account, containing documents and information on the chemicals necessary to manufacture a bomb. "EXPLO6″, he named one of the e-mails, "In the Name of Allah The Beneficent The Merciful. Nitro is more powerful than T.N.T.".
Al-Dawsari also started to purchase tools via Amazon.com. On December 12 2010 he ordered a Weller SP23LK Marksman, 25 Watt soldering iron kit. A string of Miniature Christmas lights was then purchased also via Amazon on December 30 2010. When al-Dawsari´s apartment in Lubbock was searched by the FBI on February 16 2011, they found the lights he had ordered last year. The terror suspect also bought a 3,2 million volt stun gun, a battery tester ,wiring, a alarm clock and a precision screwdriver and large quantities of Chemistry Labratory equipment.
When the FBI raided al-Dawsari´s apartment a few days ago, they found several handwritten notes and a journal with some Arabic entries, indicating he planned to carry out a terrorist attack inside the United States for years. The events of 9/11 and the lectures of Osama Bin Laden apparently inspired the young Saudi student. He applied for a scholarship for America, al-Dawsari wrote, so the "Traitor of the Two Holy Places" (King of Saudi-Arabia) would finance his trip. "Financial scholarship will help tremendously in providing me with the support I need for Jihad", the student states, "And now after mastering the English language, learning how to build explosives and continuous planning to target infidel Americans, it is time for Jihad".
On July 22 2010, al-Dawsari wrote in his diary, he wished to create his own al-Qaida branch, naming it "Jamaat Jund al-Islam". In September 2010 he claimed he was doing his best in his effort to create a "intelligent bomb". By then al-Dawsari had already picked several possible targets for his attack in the US.
"NICE TARGETS 01″, the Saudi named his e-mail listing numerous targets like 12 dams and reservoirs in California and Colorado. On September 22 2010, he wrote a document containing the home adresses of three American soldiers who had previously served in the U.S. military in Iraq and were stationed in Abu Ghraib Prison. Among other targets selected by al-Dawsari was a Nuclear Power Plant as well as New York City locations.
In the Texan City of Dallas, Khalid al-Dawsari had picked a high-value target – the address of a property owned by former US-President George W. Bush, a location the Saudi student called the "Tyrant´s house".
On Feb. 1 2011, a chemical supplier reported to the FBI a suspicious attempted purchase of concentrated phenol by a man identifying himself as Khalid Aldawsari. According to the affidavit, phenol is a toxic chemical with legitimate uses, but can also be used to make the explosive trinitrophenol, also known as T.N.P., or picric acid.
Apparently al-Dawsari had already thought about how to hide and conceal the bomb he was about to build. On the Internet he searched for pictures of babies and realistic looking infant dolls. Just a few days ago, on February 19 2011, the Chemistry student searched for "can u take a backpack to nightclub", "bakcpack", "dallas night clubs" and "party in dalls" on Google.
This search triggered the FBI to step in and arrest the 21 year-old Saudi national. Today he was officially charged with preparing a terrorist attack in the United States.
Again it seems, America escaped a Jihadi terrorist attack by one of the al-Qaida inspired "lone wolves", increasingly threatening the security of the United States.


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Posted 06 March 2012 - 07:12 PM
I AM A PART of the Fellowship of the Unashamed.
The die has been cast. The decision has been made. I have stepped over the line. I won't look back, let up, slow down, back away or be still.
My past is redeemed, my present makes sense, and my future is in God's hands. I am finished and done with low living, small planning, the bare minimum, smooth knees, mundane talking, frivolous living, selfish giving, and dwarfed goals.
I no longer need preeminence, prosperity, position, promotions, applause, or popularity. I don't have to be right, first, the best, recognized, praised, regarded, or rewarded. I now live by faith. I lean on Christ's presence. I love with patience, live by prayer, and labor with the power of God's grace.
My face is set. My gait is fast, my goal is heaven. My road is narrow, my way is rough, my companions are few, my Guide is reliable, and my mission is clear.
I cannot be bought, compromised, detoured, lured away, turned back, deluded, or delayed. I will not flinch in the face of sacrifice, hesitate in the presence of adversity, negotiate at the table of the enemy, ponder at the pool of popularity, or meander in the maze of mediocrity.
I won't give up, shut up, let up or slow up until I have stayed up, stored up, prayed up, paid up, and spoken up for the cause of Christ.
I am a disciple of Jesus. I am a Phatmass Catholic. I must go until He comes, give until I drop, speak out until all know, and work until He stops me. And when He returns for His own, He will have no difficulty recognizing me. My banner is clear: I am a part of the Fellowship of the Unashamed.
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I knew I forgot somthing
It's ok. Rookie mistakes happen! We all think you're swell!
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God bless-
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I knew I forgot somthing
And chocolate (but not in Lent obv). Other than that
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Hmmmmm..... That will be in the responsorial psalm on Sunday.Sweet as the HoneyComb
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I did not know that when I wrote it. I was just kinda being funny and I really enjoy honey!Hmmmmm..... That will be in the responsorial psalm on Sunday.
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That's fine too. I only noticed because I was supposed to sing the responsorial psalm on Sunday at one of the Masses. I didn't end up doing it, though because I was given the wrong one. (They did the set of readings and psalms etc.. for the mass that is said when the first set of scrutinies are done instead of the other one.)I did not know that when I wrote it. I was just kinda being funny and I really enjoy honey!
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It is okay dear.Did someone say Chocolate??
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Does Washington Have a Spending Problem or a Revenue Problem?
Depending on your opinion, what programs would you be prepared to cut, or what percentage of your income would you be prepared to give in taxes, to fix the problem?
As "fiscal cliff" negotiations heat up, congress can't agree on whether Washington has a spending problem or a revenue problem. Nor can the American people or, in many instances, even economist
In an article on Marketplace.org, headed up "Washington has a spending problem not a revenue problem," the argument is made that you can't keep spending and just raising taxes to meet the outflow of money. The best way to fix the country's deficit problem is to gut spending.
In a story in the Daily Kos, Joan McCarter looks at it from the other side in an article titled, "We have a revenue problem, not a spending problem."
In the story, McCarter shows the loss in revenue as a result of the Bush tax cuts and the economic downturn in the economy between 2001 and 2011.
Our question is, if you believe that it is a spending problem and not a revenue problem, what programs would you be prepared to cut to fix the problem? On the other hand, if you believe it is a revenue problem and not a spending problem, what percentage of your income do you think it is fair for the government to take in taxes to fix the problem?
North Georgia Weather
9:50 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Spending is way up. Any moron ought to be able to see what's going on. Whenever outflow exceeds inflow... you have a spending problem. You can say it's revenue but you could always say it's revenue when you don't have enough to pay your expenses. That's like me complaining I'm not making enough money but I continue to increase my spending at the same time. Kinda stupid isn't it? You would think I would then cut out all of the frivolous crap but no, I spend more, always with some justification. It's like sticking your head in the sand and totally ignoring the root of the problem.
I just don't get it.
10:21 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
SPENDING....SPENDING...SPENDING. Oh, did I mention SPENDING.
Michael k
11:29 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Two replies that there is a spending problem, but no suggestions as to what sort of spending cuts should take place in order to deal with the problem.
It is too simplistic to say it is a spending problem, or a revenue problem. There are spending problems but looking to correct any particular spending problem will result in (unintended) consequences.
For example, let's say we spend too much on the military.
We spend more than the next 10+ countries combined. We should reduce military spending by X%. The consequences of this could be:
Unemployment in the defense and related industries would spike. Benefits for veterans might be slashed. Overseas bases might close. Local economies that are positively impacted by the location of these bases in the US and overseas would be devastated. Our ability to provide military support for allies would be significantly reduced. Our enemies would be emboldened. Our senior generals would not have nearly the same amount of swag with the groupies.
We have a spending problem, but how do we fix it?
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:24 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Oh I don't know, how about an across the board 5 to 10 percent.
And when we are told that it's NOT possible, the sky will FALL and the planets in our solar system will be forevermore out of alignment...
Then try cutting ALL grants including those to states, cities, counties and staduim projects by 20 percent. For example ,we could live WITHOUT roadside/intersection flowers for a season or 2 right?
Then try enforcing our current laws so we actually take care of our working, tax paying class...
Does anyone have any idea how much revenue our governments have LOST by not enforcing our borders and leaving workers and families unprotected?
Attention greedy politicians: If we can't make it, YOU can't tax or TAKE it. No matter how high you raise the rates, in the end you get a greater part of a SMALLER pie which is STILL less than a little sample of a MUCH greater pie.
So what do you make of the thousands or MILLIONS of families whose earning potential was stunted for YEARS because of a premature death, caused by those who weren't even supposed to be here? Then you have the lucky ones who survive the encounter, they make marked less due to long term injury or become OUTRIGHT disabled and HELLO MEDICAID.
Then there's always the LOCAL CIDs stop taking FED/State grants until this crisis is averted...
Take Away?
Gore all ox's EQUALLY without regard to race, creed or sexual orientation.
11:18 am on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Washington has a spending problem....spending on wars that we should not have ever gotten into in the first place.
And now the solution to the problem: Take away our mortgage deduction to pay for it.
Thank you George Bush..
Pittsburgh Paul
12:11 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Gee, George Bush will go down in history as the most powerful president since the founding of this country. No other president has been credited with so much power and influence to set into place the UNCHANGABLE course of our country than Bush. If all the Dems are correct, Obama will go down in history as the most weak president since he has been unable to LEAD this country in the change he promised - because as you so appropriately point out Greg, Obama doesn't have the ability to manage consequences and provide vision and direction and the leadership for moving forward.
The good news is that I have fully embraced the Democratic Party now and will forever be a loyal Dem. Just this morning during our weekly staff meeting, I blamed all our financial issues on my predecessor (even though I've been the director for four years now) and blamed any lack of success in our strategic plan on my staff (since they can't seem to get along and get the job done.) I've also reassigned responsibilities so that the more capable are doing more work and the less capable are being excused from work - but to be FAIR, I have decided to pay everyone the exact same salary. As you might imagine, there's been some issues, but I'm off for a three-week vacation in Hawaii because I'm the boss. Yes, I encourage all my former Republican friends to reconsider party affiliation - life is actually pretty good on the other side!!
Karsten Torch
8:44 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Okay, Pittsburgh...that might just be the most beautiful thing I've read in a long time....
3:21 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013
Obama could have ended all of it four years ago. However, he didn't end it, he expanded it. It's to late to blame bush any more.
Obama owns it now GregRodgers. Your great hope and change is just as much a war criminal as bush. Tastes like a sh*t taco doesn't it?
Morris Devereaux
2:02 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
The simple answer of course, is spending. Washington has NEVER applied new revenue to the deficit; they've always just spent it. There's no amount of money that they could get that would not be used to spend on new programs.
But, having said that, Michael K is correct in that it's very easy to say cut spending. It's much more difficult to decide what to cut. For example, we know entitlements are a huge portion of government spending, but who among us, would be willing to accept huge cuts in Social Security or Medicare?
In addition, any sort of cuts will be accompanied by massive unemployment in that industry which could even possibly bring us back into a recession or even depression. So my solution would require a long, as much as 10 years, commitment by the government to slowly reduce spending by at least 50% in order to get a budget we could live with and to have enough extra to pay off the debt. Certainly defense would have to be a major area where cuts would be made. We spend four times what the next highest spending country (Red China) spends on defense. We simply cannot continue to be the world's policeman and protector. The world needs to start spending their own money and protecting themselves.
Good Grief Y'all
6:08 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Exactly, Michael k and Morris. Balanced plan - both spending cuts, gradually, and increased revenues. The Middle Class will be hit too hard by taking away the mortgage deduction, so if that's done it should be on the higher end properties. Churches and charities will be hurt by taking away those deductions.
Michael Robinson
8:37 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Spending is stimulative. Cut the spending, and revenue goes down. We have recent examples of austerity failing miserably to demonstrate why it's a bad idea.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:28 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
PROBLEM!!! You CAN'T spend what you DON'T have...
But if you're so inclined to buy me a hamburger today, I'll gladly pay you Tuesday...
Karsten Torch
8:46 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Spending is NOT stimulative. Japan tried that crap for 10 years, and it didn't help. The government creates nothing. If the government spending stops, other spending will take its place. And it will be far more effective.
Government spending is just taking the money in with the left hand and doling it out with the right. After, of course, skimming a large percentage of it off the top.
Tammy Osier
9:05 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
I read an article about the UK. They tried what we are doing and it failed just as republicans and true economists have tried to tell the public. But they didn't listen and voted for this mess. Let them own it and live with it. of course, they'll have someone to blame for the mess. That way they don't have to take responsibility. It's more convenient that way. It's a shame we've come to that.
The UK tried the tax the rich tactic, and guess what? tax hikes on the wealthy LOWERED revenue to the government. In fact, it not only lowered revenue, but actually cost them the equivalent in US dollars of 11.2 billion. Now the government of Conservative Party Prime Minister David Cameron has announced that it will lower the top rate from 50 percent to 45 percent. Imagine that. The story will be the same here. Watch and see.
Revenue goes up when you take the claw out of the neck of the producers. Google this stuff. Amazing that we not only don't read history and learn from it, but another country tried exactly what we're doing with disastrous results! We havethe proof but refuse to see it because it's all about politics and money in pockets .
Tammy Osier
9:15 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Right now, we are in a catch 22. Many people are on umemployent because of no jobs. So, cutting spending on entitlements without stimulating the economy to create jobs would be futile. I'll look into it, but Clinton did a decent job on welfare reform. There's got to be a way to cut the waste there without hurting good programs. We need to have incentive to get off of it, and that's got to involve jobs. maybe cut some salaries in Washington and let them feel the same pinch everybody else is.
R++ - One of the famous "Dacula Crew"
11:34 pm on Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Yep he sure did, moved it right into the Farm Bills.
Of which upward of 80 percent of the spending has NOTHING to do with actual farming per se, but providing/paying for food PROGRAMS.
"It's the end of welfare as we know it, But I feel fine..."
Mike Lowry
8:54 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
We definitely have a spending problem, and have had it for 60 years. Study Calvin Coolidge for the right way to fix it. When faced with recession he cut the government in half and triggered a huge boom which only ended when Congress got greedy and started hiking taxes again.
As for what we need to cut, we should eliminate all government activities not specifically authorized by the Constitution. The federal government has no business being in the health care business, or the retirement business or the housing business or the education business or the transportation business (with the singular exception of the Interstate system). These are all the purview of the states (see Amendments, Tenth).
We are being boiled like a frog, with ever-increasing "benefits" that are strangling our freedoms and making us into a dependent society.
Tammy Osier
8:55 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
karsten said:
Government spending is just taking the money in with the left hand and doling it out with the right. After, of course, skimming a large percentage of it off the top.
Karsten Torch
9:33 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
This is not a hard concept. Spending is our problem. Revenue is only a problem because of our economy. Revenue has been pretty consistent over the last 60 years or so, averaging about 18% of GDP. We've had spikes, mainly the Clinton years when we had the dot com boom, but 18% is pretty comfortable. Through all tax hikes and cuts, that's what we get.
Spending this year is projected to be about 25%, maybe a little more. Revenue has never been that high, why in the world would anybody be delusional enough to think that revenue is the problem?
Here's your scenario - you work, let's say for yourself. You make $100,000 a year. Have made right at that amount for the last, let's say, 10 years. Not bad. But you're spending $120,000 (pretty close to the current ratio). Does it make more sense to think you're going to start making enough to cover your spending? Or would you reduce spending? Seems fairly simple when a little logic is applied, no?
Karsten Torch
9:44 am on Wednesday, December 12, 2012
As far as specific cuts? Defense would be one. Even I think our expenditures there are just too high. By roughly half, IMO. Entitlements would be another. Streamline, make sure anybody on them needs them. Cover children if necessary, make adults work. If they're on some form of welfare, they need to work, doing something productive. Give back. Unless they're completely incapacitated and brain-dead, there's something they can do to earn some of what they make. Foreign assistance is another area - we need the money here. Especially those countries that don't like us. I realize this is a small amount of the total, but every little bit helps.
And then, like has already been said, cut out the rest of what our government is not supposed to be doing. Pretty much, our federal government should be providing public safety, including courts and code enforcement, infrastructure, national defense, and that's pretty much it. Everything else is fluff. I'm one of the few with my level of conservatism or libertarianism or whatever you want to call it that does believe in a basic social safety net, but it needs to be very basic.
3:12 pm on Monday, January 7, 2013
Yes the federal government has a revenue problem. The problem is there is no revenue since the government has no product to sell. The only money the government has is taken at gun point from the citizens. We used to call this robbery now we call it revenue.
Good Grief Y'all
12:37 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Karsten, revenues are necessary to run this country whether everyone uses all the services or not. Taxes are revenues. You don't pay what is legally owed, you'll face the IRS. This is absurd: "The only money the government has is taken at gun point from the citizens. We used to call this robbery now we call it revenue." If a person has to be locked up as a fugitive from justice, guns may be employed, just not to operate the IRS. If you don't want to obey the laws here in the US, leave and go some place where you agree with all the laws. You're going to be on a long, long journey.
Karsten Torch
1:06 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
"If you don't want to obey the laws here in the US, leave and go some place where you agree with all the laws." And now you, as well, have lost the right to be taken seriously.
This is a tired argument. If you don't like the laws, you should change them. That's why we have the process of changing the laws. And I, like many, feel that we are already taxed too much, in many different ways. And that our government spends far more than it should.
So "go find someplace with laws you like" is an ignorant statement. At best.
Karsten Torch
1:08 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Also, regarding the "at the point of a gun" comment, this is absolutely true. If you're in violation of IRS law, how do they enforce them? With guns. The government gets what it wants because it is better armed than the populace. If you don't agree to go with them to be incarcerated, they will brandish weapons, threaten you with weapons, and finally will use weapons. So yeah, laws are enforced at the point of a gun. Just like taxes are collected....
Good Grief Y'all
1:41 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Karsten, who made you the King of all Patch threads? I don't care whether you take me seriously, but it is not for you to decide whether others do. Thought you were all about freedom? The law is the law. You don't like it, fine, break it and see if you like the punishment better than compliance. You don't get to choose which laws you get to obey without facing consequences. The guns don't come out unless you're a fugitive. Good citizens don't have to worry about govt. use of guns against them until they break the law. Well, there are some accidents, and there's war. That "point of a gun" in reference to legal taxes crap is what is ignorant.
Karsten Torch
2:45 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Wow. "King of all Patch threads." Cool new title, thanks for the moniker...
"The guns don't come out unless you're a fugitive. Good citizens don't have to worry about govt. use of guns against them until they break the law. "
So what you're saying is good little citizens follow the laws and don't question the status quo, right? Because to do so means that you're a bad person. Got it.
Just because a law is a law does not make it a just law. Or a good law. And the government gets to enforce its bad decisions "at the point of a gun." It's up to us as citizens to question the government. It's our duty, actually. As Americans. We don't have that right just because somebody thought it would be a neat idea to be able to say whatever we want to say. It's so that we will question our leaders and keep them on the correct path, whatever that may be. So if they pass a law that is silly, such as, for example, forcing a company against its religious beliefs to supply something at its cost, then it is the duty of that company to stand up and refuse to comply.
That is what America a great country. Not the over-indulged government arbitrarily passing laws because it thinks it knows what's best for us.
Good Grief Y'all
3:03 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Settle down, Karsten. I didn't anoint you. I asked you b/c of the comments you make declaring this or that of another poster, mind reading, etc. And you're quite proficient at twisting someone else's words or inserting them where they weren't. Example:
"So what you're saying is good little citizens follow the laws and don't question the status quo, right? Because to do so means that you're a bad person. Got it."
Nope - not at all what I said. When good citizens follow the law, then no guns are pulled. You can question all you want, campaign against, protest, petition. But until the law is changed, you must obey or suffer the consequences. Laws are challenged all the time, which is why the courts stay busy. That's also our right. But until the law is struck down by the courts or amended or repealed, it is the law. Your opinion on the law doesn't negate it or make it unenforceable. That's pretty simple. I think Grant is right, you do have a problem with logic. I'm not sure if it's that you go around in circles or you're in a spiral. You make it way too hard on yourself. I think you have a distorted view of America.
Karsten Torch
3:23 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
That's fine. Accuse me of not listening or talking in circles. But I've noticed that you're not really paying attention to what I say, either.
What I said was, "If you don't agree to go with them to be incarcerated, they will brandish weapons, threaten you with weapons, and finally will use weapons. So yeah, laws are enforced at the point of a gun."
And this is true. I never said that you should disobey the laws. I said that IF you did, then... This is a little different from what you said. And it doesn't make my statement untrue - in fact it goes along with our premise that we either follow the law or we face the consequences. The same thing I'm saying. My point is the terminal point of those consequences involve federal authorities with firearms....
Good Grief Y'all
3:49 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
You know full well what that "at the point of a gun" phrase in reference to taxes is meant to imply - fear. You break any law - local, state, federal, and you obstruct justice, refuse to comply, yes, you may be facing a gun. The IRS is not going to come knocking at your door with a gun to do a tax audit. Lots of people have evaded taxes and still haven't seen a govt. gun in their face.
Karsten Torch
4:27 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Of course they will. And those that have evaded taxes haven't seen a gun for one of three reasons - haven't been caught, went along quietly, or complied and paid what was owed. Any other options, the guns come out.
But that's not really the point. My point was that the threat of force is what ensures compliance. There's plenty of laws that I follow because I want to. Plenty I follow because I don't feel it's important enough to me to face the consequences if I don't. And others I choose not to follow, and I'll accept the consequences should I get caught. Just like everybody else.
Good Grief Y'all
5:03 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Really, the IRS auditors carry? As a part of their job? You're something else, Karsten. The rest of what you said,? . . . you're belatedly agreeing with me.
You and Racer remind me of a couple of little boys walking around in their daddy's shoes. You should rethink that breaking the law stuff. You might come to regret that. If you break laws (dishonest), you probably lie (dishonest), too, so it's a wasted effort to take you seriously. Not like everybody else. That's delusional. That's a sad and risky way to make yourself feel better about something you must know is wrong.
Karsten Torch
5:22 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
IRS does carry. Not auditors, granted, but if you don't cooperate with auditors, who do you think shows up next? Please, think before you post.
So, you never speed? At all, not one little bit? Maybe especially on roads that you think the speed limit is a bit too low for? If you find $20 in front of a supermarket, you report that to the IRS? There's lots of little examples every day. But, if you don't, you don't. Good for you. I guess you are a good citizen.
Oh, and illegal isn't the same thing as wrong. Wrong has to do with morals. I follow my morals every day. Even on things that aren't illegal that I still know are wrong. I don't always stop and ask myself "Would Uncle Sam want me to do this?" I stop and ask if God would want me to do something, and try to act accordingly. THAT is my center. Not government.
Good Grief Y'all
7:34 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Yes, I think before I post. And, again, you're just belatedly agreeing with me on the gunpoint-tax issue.
No, I don't speed. Learned that lesson a few expensive times a couple of decades ago. Speeding doesn't get you there any faster, in most cases. Have you ever noticed, driving along and somebody flies past you. You stay steady on the speed limit, and then you pull up right behind or beside the driver in a hurry at the next traffic light? And speeding is dangerous, especially in the digital age adding more distractions. Haha. This driving talk reminds me of that old, old song, "Keep your mind on your driving, keep your hands on the wheel, and keep your snoopy eyes on the road ahead . . . "
I haven't been lucky enough to find money, but I believe I would probably donate it to the church or a charity if there was no evidence of its owner in the vicinity. I'm not perfect by any means, but if it's not mine I can't enjoy it. Report $20 to the IRS? It's a wash if you just donate it. I don't cheat on taxes.
If you're constantly asking yourself if something is wrong and whether to do it, maybe you're conflicted. You're the one who said you choose which laws to break - your confession, not my accusation. God probably wants you to obey the laws.
You're nothing if not persistent.
Jackie Irish
11:41 am on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
The real deficit in Washington (and America) is humility.
You "know" the right answer and don't want to hear from someone else that you could be wrong. I "know" the opposite is right and feel the same way about you. Someone else "knows" we're both wrong and feels the same way about both of us. Round and around it goes.
It's always blame the other group because that's easier than admitting the simple solution isn't always the correct one -and usually isn't when you're talking about something as complex as how to run the most powerful nation on Earth.
Revenue problem? Maybe.
Spending problem? Maybe.
Both? Maybe.
Neither? Maybe.
We tried Bush tax cuts and wars we couldn't pay for and we got into a recession. We're trying raising taxes now (and not cutting spending; at least not quite yet). Maybe that will work. Maybe not.
You don't know. I don't either.
Admit to that and you just might be open enough to finding a solution that actually works.
Jake Lilley
1:01 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
The only people who don't understand this problem are those who have never managed to balance their own household budget.


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Donna Svennevik/ABCGwyneth Paltrow is one of those people who just seems too perfect with her good looks, cute family, successful movie career, and recent foray into the role of food and lifestyle guru with her blog and two best-selling cookbooks. Since she was recently named the world's most beautiful woman, however, critics have been picking on the 40-year-old more than usual, citing everything from her comments about putting her kids on a low-carb diet to her now-famous $60 olive oil recommendation.
But her good pal, celebrity chef Mario Batali, says she may be perfect, but she's actually just like the rest of us.
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