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My question is because of our Federal Reserve System is our Nation still ruled b
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My question is because of our Federal Reserve System is our Nation still ruled by the British ?
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September 16, 2011, 08:26:22 PM »
Is the Cremation of Care really just acting thanks ?
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Re: What is the point of the Book Animal Farm by George Orwell it says some Animals
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September 16, 2011, 08:30:45 PM »
Here is a answer that I got on Yahoo Answers tell me you all agree ?
Most animals in animal farm were representations of actual characters in Soviet Russia. Snowball is Trotsky and Napoleon is Stalin for example.
The humans represented the old Czars and the capitalists. Communists criticized the Czars and the Capitalists because they said that wealth in those systems was concentrated. The criticism is that too few people own too much. In other words the monarchs and capitalists at the top have the most money/wealth/resources...The pigs (being communists supposedly) started a revolution to oust the humans (Czar/Capitalists). Ironically the pigs ended up being indistinguishable from the humans (meaning the communists piggies were no different than the people they criticized). The top leaders had all the power/money/wealth/resources while no one else had anything. In the USSR it was the same...They promised change. Stalin and Lenin promised equality, but in the end the communist leaders and elites ended up being no different from the brutal Czar.
Snowball is Trotsky (he was exiled to another farm, Trotsky was exiled to Mexico)
Napoleon is Stalin
Farmer Jones is the old Czar and/or Capitalists
Dogs were the military police or KGB
There is a lot more, but I forgot...I read that book a long time ago.
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Re: Cremation of Care
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September 16, 2011, 09:43:44 PM »
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".
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Re: Cremation of Care
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September 16, 2011, 10:39:46 PM »
Quote from: southernmissouri2007 on September 07, 2011, 10:26:19 AM
Is the Cremation of Care a play like acting and actors or is it Satanism or is it both Im trying to prove to people that it is not just a play is it Symbolism ?
The "Cremation of Care" is a ritual that signifies the sacrificing of care for others into the fires of Moleck, especially, care for the so-called useless eaters and cannon fodder, the working classes.
This ritual contains within it a mystique of participation, promoting a kind of group mind, that makes the participant believe this to be a necessary practice to maintain Earth's population in balance, making it easier for the individual and the group engaging in the ritual to participate in torture, debauchery, and genocide.
Care in this case is symbolized as an baby... a century or so ago, the child would have been real.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Cremation of Care
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September 17, 2011, 08:28:41 AM »
Is Molech a Owl or a Bull or can Molech be both ?
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September 17, 2011, 08:33:58 AM »
Also is a ritual different from a play ?
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Re: What is the point of the Book Animal Farm by George Orwell it says some Animals
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September 17, 2011, 08:38:29 AM »
What does everyone think ?
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Re: Cremation of Care
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September 17, 2011, 09:47:39 AM »
Quote from: southernmissouri2007 on September 17, 2011, 08:28:41 AM
Is Molech a Owl or a Bull or can Molech be both ?
The image can be almost anything (owl bull goat), it will always be ritualized with the energy of human sacrifice behind it however... a ritual is a religious rite that concretizes the energy of the rituals meaning in the mind of the participant, by physical symbology.
another example of a religious rite is Holy Communion, which symbolizes a unification with Christ. The wine and the bread symbolize the body of Christ. By eating and drinking the sacrament, on a physical level, it symbolizes a unification with the idea in the mind.
So to the uninitiated at first glance it would appear as a play of sorts...
"People are scared of things they shouldn't be scared of.
Yet they are not scared of things they should be scared of --
the media tells folks what to fear -- so people fear only
what the media TELLS them to be scared of."
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Re: Cremation of Care
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September 17, 2011, 02:42:31 PM »
Quote from: JT Coyoté on September 17, 2011, 09:47:39 AM
The image can be almost anything (owl bull goat), it will always be ritualized with the energy of human sacrifice behind it however... a ritual is a religious rite that concretizes the energy of the rituals meaning in the mind of the participant, by physical symbology.
another example of a religious rite is Holy Communion, which symbolizes a unification with Christ. The wine and the bread symbolize the body of Christ. By eating and drinking the sacrament, on a physical level, it symbolizes a unification with the idea in the mind.
So to the uninitiated at first glance it would appear as a play of sorts...
"People are scared of things they shouldn't be scared of.
Yet they are not scared of things they should be scared of --
the media tells folks what to fear -- so people fear only
what the media TELLS them to be scared of."
~Alex Jones, on the air, 8/18/09
It also synbolizes the male and female energies. It's explained on the Molech link on my above post.
This country did not achieve greatness with the mindset of "safety first" but rather "live free or die".
Truth is the currency of love. R[̲̅ə̲̅٨̲̅٥̲̅٦̲̅]ution!
We are all running on Gods laptop.
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Re: My question is because of our Federal Reserve System is our Nation still ruled b
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September 17, 2011, 06:14:25 PM »
Once upon a time there was a great man representing Missouri in the Senate --Thomas Hart Benton--
he told it like it was
(and still is): the United States had one enemy thoughout its existence, the United Kingdom; and this enemy defeated the concept of united States for common defence and mutual benefit, for which Thomas Jefferson composed the Declaration. Mr. Jefferson was also of the opinion that
the enemy resided in London
Please read your history
, some times:--
and the letters of Thomas Jefferson:
The reasons for establishing an Independent Treasury are now too apparent to require argument here. Two suspensions of the banks in three years, shows that they cannot be relied upon by the Federal Government. Besides, our whole banking system is a dependency of the British system; its centre is in London; its masters are there; and, in addition to its own inherent dangers, great enough, in all conscience, it is also subject to the misfortunes, and to the orders, of the mother system in England. It must shut up, and blow up, as ordered, or suffered there; and thus the Federal Government, in keeping its money in our banks, is virtually keeping it in London, subject to the orders of Englishmen, and to the wants, or policy, misfortunes, or crimes, of their own paper system. Surely it is time to break such a dependence.
H.A. Lincoln and the Whig crew
in hot haste got rid of the Independent Treasury, and (re)established everything Alexander Hamilton could dream of:
a strong central government
a permanent national debt
a national currency, based on this national debt
a national (private) banking system issuing this national currency
and, to ice the cake, they gave away 200million acres to robber barons
"No flag alien to the sources of the Mississippi river will ever float over its mouths till its
waters are crimsoned with human gore
; and not one foot of American soil can ever be wrenched from the jurisdiction of the Constitution of the United States until it is baptized in fire and blood."
Galusha A. Grow, Speaker of the House, July
4th, 1861.
To answer your question: yes, ye are mortgaged to the London oligarchy (the FedRes Act was simply an administrative adjustment)
This was the reasoning of General Hamilton, that eminent and bold man, who was the great founder of the Federal sect. To nullify express words by construction — to judge a constitutional question by its expediency — to sacrifice gold and silver to paper —
marry the Government and the banks
together — and to make the former dependent upon the aid of the latter; this was his conduct and his policy; and this has been the conduct and policy of the sect which he founded for the fifty years which it has existed.
This was the reasoning of General Hamilton; this his argument, to show that gold and silver coin only signified bank notes ! Certainly nothing more fallacious —not to say audacious— ever fell from the lips of man. It was an insult to the understanding, and a contempt for the spirit of those to whom it was addressed. But it was addressed to a Congress of Federal members; to a Congress in which the Democracy had no weight, and the majority of which immediately proceeded to
chain the whole Federal Government to the British paper system
, by chartering a National Bank with British stockholders, funding the soldiers' certificates, assuming State debts, and creating a stockjobbing interest to feed and fatten upon the credit and revenues of the Union — to rule its politics, and to consider the administration of the Government as wholly subordinate to their own schemes of wealth and aggrandisement. This was the Congress to which General Hamilton made his report, and which received it with the submission and acquiescence which might be expected from such a body. They shut their eyes upon the mockery which was made of the law, and they submitted to the insult to which the excuse implied to themselves.
Something to ponder:
Benedict Arnold
was a feudalist. If Mr. Washington had treated Mr. Arnold impartially and had given him the deserved promotion, Benedict would have become
a founding father
Why was it that Mr. Cornwallis --a Whig-- did everything he could NOT to defeat Washington and the insurgents ?
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Re: What is the point of the Book Animal Farm by George Orwell it says some Animals
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September 17, 2011, 07:24:53 PM »
Quote from: southernmissouri2007 on September 16, 2011, 08:30:45 PM
The criticism is that too few people own too much.
Hardly anyone could disagree, but say our solution was to realign wealth distribution to make it equal, doesn't that put
in charge of other people's affairs? What authority do we have to compel any human being to do anything?
Just by participating in "the system, we are trying to control others. Maybe we don't need "a system" at all?
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Has anyone here read this Book ?
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September 18, 2011, 08:40:45 AM »
Has anyone here read this Book ? I am not anti Semitic or anti Jewish or anti Judaism I think Judaism is a beautiful Religion and Faith but I am anti Zionist and Anti the American Government's support/aid to and of Israel and the control of the U.S. Congress by the Israel Lobby does anyone here agree ?
The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy [Hardcover]
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Re: Has anyone here read this Book ?
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September 18, 2011, 10:48:58 AM »
Does anyone have any opinion thanks ?
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Help needed to debunk/refute this article ?
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September 18, 2011, 12:54:25 PM »
Why the Economy Grows Like Crazy Amid High Taxes
The raw truth is that the economy has grown faster when taxes were higher, but how can we explain that phenomenon?
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Why do high taxes create a stronger economy?
I used to run a small business -- a commercial film production company.
Every time we took a dollar out as personal income, it instantly turned into 50 cents.
If we didn't really need the money, that was an incentive to keep it in the company and to find ways to spend it that took it out of the taxable profit column but increased the value of the company.
High taxes create an incentive to reinvest profits into long-term growth.
With high taxes, the only way to retain the bulk of the wealth created by a business is by reinvesting it in the business -- in plants, equipment, staff, research and development, new products and all the rest.
Can anyone debunk or refute this claim that higher taxes will mean that the Rich will keep their money inside their businesses and create Jobs to avoid higher Taxes is this wrong because the Rich business owners will have less money to create Jobs ?
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Re: Has anyone here read this Book ?
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September 18, 2011, 01:12:46 PM »
It's a scrupulously detailed look at the Zionist's lobby.
The authors needed Kevlar suits to deal with the rabid zionists' response.
Read it and understand how powerful this lobby has become in influencing our elected representatives in congress.
Starred Review. Expanding on their notorious 2006 article in the London Review of Books, the authors increase the megatonnage of their explosive claims about the malign influence of the pro-Israel lobby on the U.S. government.
Mearsheimer and Walt, political scientists at the University of Chicago and Harvard, respectively, survey a wide coalition of pro-Israel groups and individuals, including American Jewish organizations and political donors, Christian fundamentalists, neo-con officials in the executive branch, media pundits who smear critics of Israel as anti-Semites and the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee, which they characterize as having an almost unchallenged hold on Congress.
This lobby, they contend, has pressured the U.S. government into Middle East policies that are strategically and morally unjustifiable: lavish financial subsidies for Israel despite its occupation of Palestinian territories; needless American confrontations with Israel's foes Syria and Iran; uncritical support of Israel's 2006 bombing of Lebanon, which violated the laws of war; and the Iraq war, which almost certainly would not have occurred had [the Israel lobby] been absent.
The authors disavow conspiracy mongering, noting that the lobby's activities constitute legitimate, if misguided, interest-group politics, as American as apple pie. Considering the authors' academic credentials and the careful reasoning and
meticulous documentation
with which they support their claims, the book is bound to rekindle the controversy. (Sept.)
Speechless in Chicago
August 7, 2007, 6:33 PM ET
Jay Solomon reports on controversy over a planned speech.
The Chicago Council on Global Affairs has canceled a September speech on U.S.-Israel relations and Washingtons pro-Israel lobby by two prominent U.S. political scientists.
John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt were scheduled to use the Sept. 27 address to outline their upcoming book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy, which is expected to be released by Farrar, Straus & Giroux early next month. But the president of the Chicago Council, Marshall Bouton, canceled the event under pressure from critics who were uncomfortable with the academics arguments, according to a letter drafted by Mearsheimer and Walt to the Councils board.
These opponents of the event argued that the two political scientists could only address the Chicago Council if someone from the opposing side, such as Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League, concurrently appeared on stage with the authors.
One might argue that our views are too controversial to be presented on their own, Mearsheimer and Walt wrote. However, they are seen as controversial only because some of the groups and individuals that we criticized in our original article have misrepresented what we said.
Mearsheimer, a political scientist at the University of Chicago, and Walt, on the faculty at Harvard, set off a political firestorm last year when they penned an article for the London Review of Books, called the Israel Lobby, that argued pro-Israel interest groups had distorted U.S. policies in the Middle East. They also argued that these groups played a central role in promoting the Bush administrations decision to invade Iraq.
Since the original article appeared in March 2006, the two academics have appeared at a number of ventures to explain their views, such as the Council on Foreign Relations, the National Press Club and Georgetown University. But a number of leading Jewish-American organizations, such as the ADF and the American Jewish Congress, have consistently charged that Mearsheimers and Walts views are anti-Semitic and overemphasize the power of the pro-Israel lobby.
Mearsheimer and Walt deny being anti-Semites and said the charges are designed to discourage respected organizations like the Council from giving us an audience.
The tactics of people like Abe Foxman at the ADL, are to use the claim of "Anti-semitism" against anyone who criticizes the policies of the Israeli government, and AIPAC. If you criticize them and you're not Jewish, then you're an "Anti-semite". If you criticize them and you ARE Jewish, you are called a "self-hating Jew". They've got every angle covered; and their weapon is to smear their critics.
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Re: Has anyone here read this Book ?
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September 18, 2011, 01:24:54 PM »
The Israel Lobby (Marije Meerman, VPRO Backlight 2007)
Dutch with English Subtitles
For many years now the American foreign policy has been characterized by the strong tie between the United States and Israel. Does the United States in fact keep Israel on its feet? And how long will it continue to do so? In March 2006 the American political scientists John Mearsheimer (University of Chicago) and Steve Walt (Harvard) published the controversial article 'The Israel Lobby and US foreign policy'. In it they state that it is not, or no longer, expedient for the US to support and protect present-day Israel. The documentary sheds light on both parties involved in the discussion: those who wish to maintain the strong tie between the US and Israel, and those who were critical of it and not infrequently became 'victims' of the lobby. The question arises to what extend the pro-Israel lobby ultimately determines the military and political importance of Israel itself. Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson (Colin Powell's former chief-of-staff) explains how the lobby's influence affects the decision-making structure in the White House.
With political scientist John Mearsheimer, neocon Richard Perle, lobby organization AIPAC, televangelist John Hagee, historian Tony Judt, Human Rights Watch director Kenneth Roth, colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, Democrat Earl Hilliard, Israeli peace negotiator Daniel Levy and investigative journalist Michael Massing.
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Re: Has anyone here read this Book ?
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September 18, 2011, 01:34:19 PM »
Great video - thanks Brocke.
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Re: What is the point of the Book Animal Farm by George Orwell it says some Animals
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September 18, 2011, 07:49:06 PM »
George Orwell - Animal Farm (ENGLISH Part 1/8)
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Re: What is the point of the Book Animal Farm by George Orwell it says some Animals
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September 19, 2011, 08:01:14 AM »
A state of liberty can, should and would involve systems, but only voluntary systems -- however individuals see fit.
When I refer to The System, I'm referring to the notion of a top-down planned, managed and controlled economy and social structure. Such a beast is immoral at its core, and if that's not enough, it simply cannot exist without widespread corruption.
"He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it." Martin Luther King, Jr.
Re: What is the point of the Book Animal Farm by George Orwell it says some Animals
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September 19, 2011, 08:10:14 AM »
It's a parable explaining the russian revolution. Orwell made the point that we're all equal but some are more equal then others. It dealt with solutions.The obvious solution is to steal from the rich and give it to the poor. That is what they tried in the Animal Farm and it worked well until the vanguard party became corrupted. Notice how, in animal farm, the animals did all the work and the farmer enjoyed all the profits?
So in reality it seems the issue isn't stealing (back) from the rich to give (back) to the poor, but managing corruption and preventing career bureaucratism like we have now.
Interestingly enough, the government is completely out of touch with reality, lost, financially and morally bankrupt, but people view it as the sole contributor to society.
Humans are broken and cant be fixed.
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Can it be proven that Bin Laden was CIA ?
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September 19, 2011, 09:38:52 AM »
Can it be proven that Bin Laden was CIA and got funding from the CIA my question is there evidence for Bin Laden being a CIA agent ?
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Re: Can it be proven that Bin Laden was CIA ?
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September 19, 2011, 09:47:16 AM »
How the CIA created Osama bin Laden
Wednesday, September 19, 2001
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Re: Can it be proven that Bin Laden was CIA ?
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September 19, 2011, 03:04:15 PM »
That's been discussed here many times. Others here are more versed on the topic though, but I think there is plenty of evidence right here in this forum.
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Re: Can it be proven that Bin Laden was CIA ?
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September 19, 2011, 04:05:30 PM »
would it really matter if he was CIA or not when the towers had bombs in them and it wasn't just air planes ? jet fuel wont melt steel and iron and remain at 1600 degrees weeks later.
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Are the Elected Presidents of the United States of America just Puppets ?
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September 19, 2011, 07:22:59 PM »
Are the Elected Presidents of the United States of America just Puppets of the New World Order Elites or are they members of the New World Order how do we know I have heard Alex Jones say that the Presidents are just Puppets ?
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Re: Can it be proven that Bin Laden was CIA ?
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September 20, 2011, 07:42:28 AM »
Quote from: southernmissouri2007 on September 19, 2011, 09:38:52 AM
Can it be proven that Bin Laden was CIA
Examine this evidence...
Then go find contrary evidence.
Compare the two.
Decide for yourself.
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Re: Are the Elected Presidents of the United States of America just Puppets ?
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September 20, 2011, 12:29:16 PM »
Does anyone know thank you ?
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Re: Are the Elected Presidents of the United States of America just Puppets ?
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September 20, 2011, 12:56:06 PM »
Whats the difference? Since when has anyone been placed in an overt position of authority without some sort of handlers in the background to assure control over the situation? Who influences the presidents actions/decisions? Certainly not we the people anymore. Since 1900, have we the people ever collectively decided to go to war or did we need to be convinced that it was a good idea?
Puppet shows require a stage, an audience, puppets, and a puppeteer.
Coercion is SOP. So is polling.
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Why do mostly Republicans go to the Bohemian Grove ?
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September 22, 2011, 10:49:35 AM »
Why do mostly Republicans go to the Bohemian Grove do any Democrats gi to the Bohemian Grove too why is it mostly Republicans this is what I have heard ?
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Re: Why do mostly Republicans go to the Bohemian Grove ?
Reply #71 on:
September 22, 2011, 10:50:31 AM »
I meant to say do any Democrats go to the Bohemian Grove ?
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Re: Why do mostly Republicans go to the Bohemian Grove ?
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September 22, 2011, 02:09:59 PM »
Sure. Many homosexual Globalist politicians go to the Bohemian Grove. It's about sexual orientation not political affiliation.
I knoooooooooooooooooooooooooooowww.
Re: Why do mostly Republicans go to the Bohemian Grove ?
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September 22, 2011, 02:22:16 PM »
Quote from: southernmissouri2007 on September 22, 2011, 10:50:31 AM
I meant to say do any Democrats go to the Bohemian Grove ?
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Re: Why do mostly Republicans go to the Bohemian Grove ?
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September 22, 2011, 03:16:48 PM »
Nixon called Bohemian Grove the "faggyest"(sic) place he had ever seen. I'm not a homophobe (to each his own.
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Re: Cremation of Care
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September 22, 2011, 08:37:53 PM »
Is the Cremation of Care a theatrical production or a play does this even matter thank you ?
Cremation of Care
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Cremation of Care is an annual theatrical production written, produced and performed by and for members of the Bohemian Club, and staged at the Bohemian Grove near Monte Rio, California at a small artificial lake amid a private old-growth grove of Redwood trees.
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September 22, 2011, 08:59:55 PM »
I am going to have to side with Richard Millhouse Nixon on this, He said it was the "most faggy god damned thing you could ever imagine." As well as the grove that pretty much sums up the cremation of care as well.
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Re: Cremation of Care
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September 22, 2011, 09:01:47 PM »
Quote from: southernmissouri2007 on September 22, 2011, 08:37:53 PM
Is the Cremation of Care a theatrical production or a play does this even matter thank you ?
Cremation of Care
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Cremation of Care is an annual theatrical production written, produced and performed by and for members of the Bohemian Club, and staged at the Bohemian Grove near Monte Rio, California at a small artificial lake amid a private old-growth grove of Redwood trees.
Much like Aaron and the Israelites fashioning and dancing around the golden calf, in Moses' absence, was a theater production... Cremation of Care is a yearly thing, every July 15th and has a definite meaning... like the WICCA Solstice rituals, and the yearly Christmas play at your church... My post above explains the the meaning in a nut shell of the "Cremation of Care"... You might listen to the first hour of the Show today... Cremation of Care is a death Cult ritual, pure and simple.
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Re: Why do mostly Republicans go to the Bohemian Grove ?
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October 03, 2011, 02:45:15 AM »
fuct up thing is these freaks shame the name of homo - homosexuals homosapien homogenates and everything else homo lol its like the south park episode where garrison tries to get fired for being gay {not gonna describe it here but ill provide a link FOR ADULTS ONLY} anyway point is chef tells the kids there is a huge difference between gays and whatever garrison is i think its called death camp of Torrence >_<
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=====> ***Fall of the Republic*** [MUST SEE THIS AGAIN!]
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Wednesday, 21 April 2010
(book review) "The Christian Delusion" - Dan Barker's Foreword
This series is an atheist review of an important anti-Christian apologetics book, "The Christian Delusion: Why Faith Fails" (TCD), that is likely to be popularly discussed across the web. My review will tend to explicitly focus on the weaknesses of the esteemed skeptical anthology (unless the given chapter is just awesome, then I'll focus on Christian arguments) and should be seen as supplementing the positive reviews from folks like Ken Pulliam, Jim Walker and the many 5 star reviews on Amazon. With all the hype there needs to be a range of internet contributions and sober assessment. How is the substance of the book framed? Is the polemical strategy a success? Have the most typical Christian objections to certain skeptical themes been addressed or ignored and amplified carelessly? Have well known inflammatory hot spots in the debate been dealt with tactfully? Have common atheist biases and prejudices been checked or are they overwhelming the actual arguments? Have the same standards that apply to Christians equally applied to the authors? Are the arguments in the book persuasive to outsiders or do they merely reinforce atheist group-think? Are weaker arguments distractingly in the mix with stronger arguments? Has an adult conversation been started/continued or have the age-old, ugly political cycles been perpetuated? Are mainstream Christian readers treated with respect as though they could be smart, informed people who think their worldview stands a chance in the debate? Would I recommend this book to a Christian friend or family member without having to apologize for its contents? Etc. Those are some of the important questions I'll be addressing. I may briefly summarize the strong points of each chapter and add my comments if that helps readers understand whatever issues come up. Occasionally I'll point out things that I just think are interesting in their own right (or things I don't understand and need help with). Also, I'll be reviewing the book in light of just about every other response to TCD on the web (as sort of informal post-market research) and responding to new Christian objections as I find them. I think this will be the best that I personally can contribute to advancing our collective conversation about these important roadblocks to solidarity in our culture.
Foreword, by Dan Barker:
[note: Editor, John Loftus' responses have been rolled into the post so you don't have to fish through all the comments.]
Overall, Dan Barker gives an adequate foreword.
Contents of My Review (the "CliffNote" version):I respond to John Loftus on Dan Barker's reputation: Is Dan Barker a dick?Loftus believes I've insulted Barker with my original review. I point out why Barker deserves the criticism.
Barker tells instead of shows: Are atheists really that interested in the facts?In a contentious context, no one listens when you tell them what to think. You have to show them why they should think it. Barker goes way overboard trying to tell us just how desperately interested in the facts the contributors of this book are.
There might yet be hope for the book: Is TCD intellectually challenging and respectful in tone?Christian reviewer, James McGrath gives me some confidence that perhaps Christians won't be terribly offended by the contents of TCD. Although he's an overly tolerant guy.
Barker is careless with his praise: Does TCD defend the mythicist position?Barker bothers to bring up mythicism (the idea that Jesus never existed as a historical person) in a book that does not defend mythicism. I demonstrate what a horrible misstep this is in terms of our Christian audience.
Random:Richard Carrier seems mislabeled: Does going to a nominally liberal Christian church as a kid really count you as a "former Christian"?
Random humorous observation: Why didn't Barker's wife write TCD?
Random curiosity: Are the vast majority of churches in Europe empty?
Outro: Not rated.Barker sets a fairly bad precedent that is unfortunately continued so far throughout TCD (I'm only on chapter 5 at this point) of "telling" instead of "showing." Ultimately that means an underlying tone of the book is "us vs. them" when we could have been all in the same boat reasoning together.
John Loftus says:...I do not have the patience with what I consider such ignorance coming from an atheist.
I agree. That is difficult. I'm working on that myself. Nevertheless we do have to police our ranks. I've been unimpressed with Barker for a couple reasons from my general experience. His performance in the two debates (here and here) I've watched him in struck me as arrogant and condescending (and way too easy for apologists to make sport of). His secular holiday sign thing was a PR disaster in my opinion. It should have had a positive alternative message and instead took a moment to insult religious belief. I had a slight sadistic chuckle, but that was quickly overridden by what a horrible foot forward for the atheist movement it was. It did get attention...by throwing red meat to FOX news. At Skepticon 2, Barker bored us to death by prattling on about the size of ancient Hebrew bathtubs for about 10 minutes or so (I don't know the exact time, I'd have to go back and count). It was brutal. Next time I'm desperately in need of an argument to confront the KJV only crowd I'll schedule it shortly after my lobotomy. Thanks, but no thanks.
So when I saw Barker get skewered on the Daily Show about making a stink about a Mother Teresa stamp, I said to myself, "He had it coming." Even though I think he's probably right about Mother Teresa, I still think he deserved it on balance. A postage stamp is not an important battle. Although, I did see a post on Friendly Atheist giving Barker's side of that story, and if what he says is true, it does seem upsetting that his comments were forced into the frame of their joke. I don't like seeing people misrepresented (even people I don't care for). I'm not surprised that they would think he would fit that bill though. I'm assuming they just went with it anyway (whether that is right or wrong). Barker does occasionally come across as quite reasonable (but then again, so does Bill O'Reilly).
Loftus responds:Do you not have respect for what Dan Barker has done for the atheist cause? Respect. I don't see it here. That's a great atheist ethic, isn't it?Respect? Is that what Dan Barker exemplifies? Does he get a free pass on everything he does and says because of his success in the movement? Um, no. Conscientious laity have to put up with his crap. And he gets to put up with criticism. I think fairness is a great "atheist" ethic, too. I have the same standards that I apply to Dawkins and P. Z. Myers and any other PR disaster. Obviously Barker isn't all bad. Plenty of folks stick up for him and I tolerate him. Doesn't mean I have to be happy about everything he says and doesn't mean I'm not going to point it out. Atheists need to publicly promote good behavior and condemn bad behavior in their own ranks. Not be cowed by group-think. Isn't that what we criticize religious people for doing with their leaders? So why should we be unprincipled hypocrites?
Loftus seems quite hypocritical in response to my criticisms of the book so far despite the overwhelmingly positive feedback from virtually every other commenter (see godgone, musterion99, Fletch_F_Fletch, zerowing21, Livingsword, and LooneyFundamentalist) . He's practically in bed with Luke Muehlhauser over on Common Sense Atheism and Luke's aims in general are very similar to what I will be doing here with my review. I suppose you have to be a more heavily trafficked blog to get that kind of response? Luke recently wrote:I have been critical of the New Atheists before for their lack of clarity and philosophical rigor. My main point is that they say lots of great things, and quite eloquently, but they also make lots of mistakes, especially when discussing the arguments for and against God's existence, on which none of them are trained.One of my goals on this blog is to reveal that nearly all of the issues typical of internet and interpersonal debate about theism and atheism have been discussed with much greater clarity, precision, and care by analytic philosophers. Soooooooo much of the popular discussion on these issues is badly confused or misguided, and I'm not so much trying to win the debate as to clarify it by summarizing what more careful thinkers have already written about it.
Why shouldn't Loftus expect others to be doing something similar with his books? If Loftus doesn't want to take the time to clarify issues with Christian reviewers, it seems he should recognize that I'm doing him a favor (as he does here), rather than undermining his general efforts. I guess that's his problem, though. There are definitely Christians much more likely to take my opinion seriously if Loftus can't stand it. Either way works for me.
Anyway, I don't have a lot to say about the foreword (it is just a foreword), but it tripped some of my pet peeves about atheist books (not unlike Robert Price's unfortunate intro to "The Empty Tomb: Jesus Beyond the Grave"). Rather than telling us the contributors are so darned interested in "just the facts" this needs to be shown. If you find yourself communicating the equivalent of, "I don't want my ideologically hostile audience to think of us as revenge craved hyper-skeptics just because I say so," you're doing it wrong. There's some hardcore overemphasis on page eleven in just one paragraph:...a burning desire for actual facts....the mental hunger, the intense craving to truly fill in the blanks of knowledge....the searing human drive to understand.
Uh huh. Aside from the fact many Christians are probably thinking this obsessive need to understand things is just some form of psychosis, it seems to me that many others are much more likely to double down with their prejudices rather than actually listen to you tell them how objective you and your friends are. It's practically reverse psychology against your favor. Do you listen when Christians tell you in their intros how obviously not faith based they are? Of course you don't, Dan (I read page 10, after all).
Maybe instead of uncharitably interpreting comments about Christianity being the best evidenced faith out there (quoting from a Lee Strobel book), you could reframe the discussion with something like this: "Which provisional explanation of reality fits the evidence the best? There is uncertainty in any worldview and ultimately what can be called faith is involved to one degree or another. We'd like to set aside accusations of motive and other personal insults [and the whole rest of the book damn well better set aside accusations of motive and personal insults] and stick to what we think are the facts and the best explanation. We are confident of our conclusions, but ultimately it is up to the reader to decide." Then you move on, leaving things delectably open-ended. No one is unnecessarily insulted, and if you've done your job right, you'll be the one who loviedovies cold hard reality the mostest. And maybe that'll even happen in their brains. Not just yours, Dan.
Christian reviewer, Randal Rauser sensibly points out:But I am also a bit cautious about saying that anybody, be they atheists, Mormons, Chicago school capitalists, or me, is ever simply after the truth. There is a popular notion that academics - philosophers and especially scientists - are driven by the pure desire to know. That's baloney.If you read his post, you'll note he's probably one of the few Christians out there who is not so quick to jump on the atheists-are-the-only-one's-with-ulterior-motives-because-the-Bible-says-so bandwagon. And despite Barker's baloney, Rauser actually manages to be quite fair anyhow:Amazing. Wouldn't it be great if the conversation was always this way even when atheists say stupid stuff? And if Christians weren't one upping us on sensibility? And just look at all the crap Rauser gets for it in his comments! Wow. My team sucks. They are so unnecessarily defensive.
So to sum up: are any of us motivated simply by a burning desire for actual facts, an intense craving to truly fill in the blanks of knowledge? I doubt it. But then if atheists are no better off on this count, neither can we say they are categorically any worse off. And with that, let's all concede that we begin on the same ground, a self-interested desire to know, more or less.
From what Richard Carrier and John Loftus have been saying, it appears they've patrolled the content pretty hard to make sure it is up to specs. We'll see how well they did or what they their idea of quality control actually amounts to. I'm hopeful. James McGrath, the awesome Christian theologian from "Exploring our Matrix," says the material is "presented respectfully (for the most part)" so that does help Barker's case (given the blurb appears among others on the first few pages of the book).
I'm a little perplexed that Robert Price is given the mantle of "a towering expert on the (non)historicity of Jesus," but maybe I'm just biased in favor of how epic Carrier's forthcoming book, "On the Historicity of Jesus" will likely be. Although, if we are concerned with the subjective impact on random Christian audiences, Barker might as well have called Price a "towering expert on crap" since mythicism is virtually the Scientology of skepticism to typical Christian sensibilities. If you aren't arguing for mythicism in the book (which they aren't, other than to mention in the notes on page 337 what the position is), I'd recommend leaving Price's skeptical merit badge out. It's an unnecessary drag on the aims of the rest of the book and thematically links the contents to an unproven, controversial, scholarly non-consensus position. I can practically write the irate Christian responses myself just based on those 8 words alone. But you know, w/e.
element771 on theologyweb puts it pretty well from the Christian perspective:You don't believe in the resurrection...fine. You don't believe that Jesus was God...fine. You don't believe that Jesus performed miracles....fine. But to deny the very existence of one of the most documented people in the ancient world as well as to try and posit that Jesus was invented from paganism when these ideas have been repeatedly been shown to be false (as per the experts in their respective fields) leads me to question the sincerity and honesty to which they approach a subject.Granted, one can certainly point out how many more fringe views on balance your average conservative Christian has to hold to be loyal to Christian doctrine. If there is to be any debate at all, obviously we all have to set that aside to have a civil discussion (seriously, by this logic, there'd be no reason whatsoever ((times ten)) to read any Christian book elemental771 thinks is great). My point here in reposting elemental771's quote is to remind the Dan Barkers of the world that they need to be a little more sensible. Maybe they should even take a moment in a foreword of a book like this to step up to addressing this typical academic posture of informed Christians, rather than mindlessly celebrating what otherwise looks like crankery to your ideologically hostile audience. Just sayin.
Does anyone take the views or thoughts of Michael Behe or William Demski seriously in the field? Answer: No. Why? Because they are on the fringe, they seem to have an agenda, they target their criticism towards particular areas that have become more recently established but they ignore the data, they pick and choose which data they believe with seemingly very little consistency, etc. Their reputation has suffered because of their commitment to a certain ideology whether the data supports it or not.....never mind the vast majority of other scientists (theistic or atheistic alike). They are lampooned and mocked severely by the skeptical crowd for their views because they go against the vast majority. How can they be so stupid as to not see what everyone sees?
Now let us look at Carrier and Price. Are they not the Behe and Demski of the historical evidence for Jesus? Behe and Price are both PhDs, employed by universities and have a publication record that is poor to mediocre but at least it is there. Demski and Carrier don't have positions and have a virtually nonexistent publication record...I am not counting publications in the Discovery Institute sponsored periodicals and certainly not articles in the Skeptical Enquirer or Internet Infidels. Yet the atheist / skeptical community applauds them. They think it is admirable to stand up to the vast majority of scholars who think that Jesus actually existed. It is a badge of honor and a mark of their high intelligence that they see things differently than the main stream scholarship.
Back to the topic....reading this would be like a Christian promoting a book that definitively proves the existence of God with the intro written by Kirk Cameron and contributing articles by the late Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson.
One reviewer, Jim Walker, may have the right idea:If anything, these are the new atheists (non-pejoratively), if only because they offer factual information about history and religion that has never been presented in such a way before to debunk Christianity (at least not to my knowledge). Nor do I praise them because of their Ph.Ds, or their experience (I know all too well many Ph.Ds that I've worked with that don't merit a hill of beans), but because they present verifiable information and sound logic. The end notes and citations from the authors is worth the price of the book alone.
It's not like it can't (or shouldn't) be done. Barker just didn't do it.
I'm not sure that calling Carrier a "deconvert" from nominal Christianity is even worth saying. That's like calling calling someone a deconvert from a preschool. Although, presumably Carrier gave the thumbs up, so w/e.
This isn't a criticism, but it is funny how Barker gives a random shout out to his wife as the best critic of religion ever. And yet, for some reason she didn't write the entire book? C'mon, Dan! What kind of brownie points did that get you at home?!? hehe
Just curious: Are churches in Europe really known for being literally empty? I know church attendance is low and there are probably some unused, elaborate churches open for tours, but is that like a dominant thing? Is that hyperbole on Barker's part or my ignorance?
If you are a Barker fan, maybe this foreword did it for you. I wasn't too enthused, but that's okay. It is unfortunate though that David Eller, Jason Long, and John Loftus (so far) continued some of the unfortunate precedents here.
Next up, John Loftus' intro.
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Hey Good People,
Happy Friday!
If you have been following the news, you have heard about the feud over the debt ceiling. In order for the U.S. to meet all its obligations, entitlements, discretionary spending and everything else required to run our government, we need to borrow to stay afloat. So if we don't raise the debt ceiling, the government could default on its debt, which has never happened in U.S. history. U.S. Treasury bonds are held around the world, so a U.S. default would create economic chaos. This is pretty scary stuff folks (at least to me).
I believe that unfortunately we have to raise the debt ceiling. However, afterwards, we have to change our spending habits and focus on debt reduction. What a novel idea!
Seriously, we all need to take personal inventory of our individual debt ceiling. As I learned growing up (and still mastering), learn to live beneath your means. So you might have to cut off that cable for a while and grab a book….hop on the bus or your bike to get around town….. cook dinner at home, then eat those left-overs for lunch….instead of going out to dinner, have a cook-out in the park with friends. Hmmm….Doesn't sound too bad to me!
One way to save when hanging out is to check out the Fort DuPont Park Concerts . It is a FREE event and kicks off this Saturday. And if you have enough in your budget, you can get a ticket for the Carter Barron's Summer Concert Series. It is still going strong with Lakeside, Brick and the BT Express on Saturday.
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Based in Paterson, the Ballet Folklórico Perú was formed in 1991 in New York City by three Peruvian-born dancers, Amparo Soria-Iturre and Nélida Silva from the Andes, and Luis Iturre from Lima, who wanted to bring the rich traditional dances of their homeland to the United States.
"The three of us have been dancing since we were living in Peru," said Nélida Silva, outreach coordinator. "This was a tradition. I started learning the dances at the same time I started walking and making sense what my steps were. It was a tradition in my home town."
According to Silva, who is originally from Ancash, Peru and now lives in Weehawken, most of the country's Indian cultures that these dances are derived from are not usually meant as performances pieces, but were part of the cultural rituals or community celebrations.
"They're not necessarily meant to be 'performed', but [through sharing] them with other people and audiences - we became performers," said Silva.
The group has since performed at various theaters, cultural festivals, parades, schools and community centers throughout the tri-state area.
"The reason why [we created this group] is because we wanted to continue this tradition with the younger generations, and share with other cultures what the dances from Peru are," said Silva.
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In addition to the dance troop, the Ballet Folklórico Perú also formally established their arts education program in 1999 by opening a Peruvian folkloric dance school for children in Paterson, which is said to be the largest Peruvian community in the United States.
According to their website, "The mission was three-fold: to provide a safe haven for youth in high-crime urban areas; to help keep families together through dance; and to help children maintain the ties to their roots and culture."
Since then dozens of children have learned traditional dances at the school, and many are the Champions of Marinera Contests held in San Francisco, Washington DC and New Jersey. Marinera is the national dance of Peru.
"The school has been open for six years now and every summer there are more than 30 kids at the school," said Silva.
The kids in the program range from ages 5 to about 18, and adult classes are also available at the school.
"Some of the students stay in the group and join the ballet," said Silva. "We have three categories of performers: children, teens, and adults. We basically perform around the Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey area, but from time to time we also go to Florida and Pennsylvania."
Many of the younger students are local residents, but there are a few from Hudson County, and adult students have come from as far as Westchester and Long Island.
The ballet company usually schedules performances during the fall, winter, and spring. During the summer, they focus on the school and participate in tri-state festivals and parades.
They also participate in New Jersey's annual Hispanic American Parade based in North Hudson.
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This will be the second performance at the Park PAC for the Ballet Folklórico Perú, and will be the highlight event in the Carnival celebration of the Northeast New Jersey Folk Arts Program, which is based at the Park PAC.
The group is also featuring guest performers Peru Andino and Estampas Del Peru, whom they have performed with at other venues.
"It was about two years ago that we did our own show in conjunction with funds from the New Jersey Arts Council," said Silva. "This will be the first time we have guest performers at the Park PAC. We have two dance troops coming from New York and showing one dance each."
The Ballet Folklórico Perú is one of the few authentic presenters of traditional Peruvian dance in the Tri-State area, which include dances from the Amazonian, Andean, and the Coast and Afro-Peruvian communities.
"People who come to the shows are very happy and energized because most of the dances we present are very colorful and very vibrant," said Silva. "At every performance we have people who ask if they can join or where they can learn more about it."
This concert is made possible in part by funding from the New Jersey State Council on Arts/Department of State, the Independence Community Foundation, and the Liz Claiborne Foundation.
For more information on the Ballet Folklórico Perú visit www.balletfolkloricoperu.org.
Tickets for the show are $30 for VIP, $20 for adults, and $10 for children and seniors, and are available at www.parkpac.com or by calling (201) 865-6980, ext. 20. Guests can also call toll free 1-800-595-4849.


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Tuesday, October 09, 2007
Allan Kass (1917-2005)
The ad above from June 1952 is the earliest example of Allan Kass' work I've managed to find. Kass probably did a lot of advertising assignments like this during the earlier part of his career. But Rhonda Whiting was familiar with an entirely different category of illustration work by Kass:
"I've been a fan of Allan Kass' work for a long time," says Rhonda, "but in a round-about way... I love reading and collecting books and always loved his Regency romance covers. Back in the last '80's, I sent him a fan letter and he was kind enough to reply."
Rhonda began corresponding with Allan Kass, who provided her with a list of titles he had done covers for. "...so I began searching," says Rhonda, "and now have 783 covers of the approximately 1000 that he did."
"[Allan Kass] was born in 1917 in NYC and showed an early interest in art. He earned a BFA at Syracuse University in painting and worked in a Manhattan studio until WW2 broke out. He enlisted into pilot training and flew 44 combat missions during the war."
"After the war, he considered flying full time and letting art be a hobby, but he got a job in Detroit working for the automotive market and was busy with his new wife and family."
"He went into book cover illustration after dissatisfaction with drawing automotive pictures and backgrounds. He felt that illustration was dying and the new "king" was photography. Illustration only flourished in paperbacks, so he drew up a few samples in the late 1960's and took them to NYC and the rest is history."
"Mr. Kass was not computer savvy, but he was very interested in my collection and in having his work 'preserved' on the internet. He was sad that so much art from the great magazine and pulp fiction illustrators is lost."
To that end, Rhonda has created an Allan Kass cover gallery blog. There you can see over 200 covers by Allan Kass from Rhonda's collection which she has diligently scanned and uploaded for all to enjoy.
"I have books with his illustrations copyrighted from 1969-1998," writes Rhonda. "He retired then and enjoyed being with his family and his model airplane collection, which he built from scratch."
Allan Kass passed away in 2005.
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- Ron Fortier said...
What an amazing talent. I love that
cover for The Vanishing Scarecrow.
It's absolutely scary. - 7:17 PM
- Michael Dooney said...
nice art. I love your ability to scrounge up this kind of background info on great if lesser known illustrators. great stuff.
- leif said...
Ron; I agree! It reminds me a little of the great covers from the Alfred Hitchcock and the Three Investigators series I loved so much as a boy.
Thanks! But really, half the time I hardly feel like I can take the credit.
As the blog has established a presence on the net, I've had more and more people contact me with fascinating background info I never could have scrounged up on my own - as Rhonda did with today's post on Allan Kass. The internet is a truly marvelous thing for giving us all the ability to connect this way, isn't it? - 9:04 PM
- Susan Kass Johnson said...
As the daughter of Allan Kass, I can tell you that he was an amazing man in so many ways - and an enormously talented artist. I am grateful to my son, Tyler, (Mr. Kass' youngest grandson) for bringing this blog to my attention.
Susan Kass Johnson - 10:20 PM
- leif said...
Dear Susan;
thanks for leaving your comment! I'd love to learn about your dad's career in greater detail... if you think you'd enjoy telling us more about him, please email me at
and perhaps we could prepare a series of posts together for the blog.
Sincerely - Leif Peng - 7:48 AM
My daughter introduced me to Signet Regency romances in the 90's. I collect everyone I can find: Tonight, I finally could read Mr Kass' signature and now this! I never connected the mysteries..but of course! Such a gift;Thank you both. Mr. Kass made everyone, white or black, historical or modern, handsome, beautiful. He obviously viewed the world through a prism we all should adapt. Thank you so much..I have to go look for the 1000 covers!


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An inspiring story of redemption, from a young girl who grew up on the streets but found the strength to succeed At age twelve Carissa Phelps ran away from abuse and neglect at home, lived on the streets, and was discreetly abducted and sold by a savage pimp. She was repeatedly sent to juvenile hall and group homes that would house her, but rarely see to her needs. Yet with a few helping hands, she accomplished the unimaginable, earning both a law degree and an MBA from UCLA. Her accomplishments meant she could leave the streets behind, but her success only drew her closer to other children in need; she is now a mentor, a crisis counselor, and an advocate for runaway and homeless youth. This is the tale of a girl who, against the odds, found her strength and faith in the kindness of strangers. Like the multimillion-copy bestseller The Glass Castle, this memoir moves us through the power of its unflinching candor and generosity. Praise for Runaway Girl: "This devastatingly honest memoir is not for the fainthearted. . . . Kafka famously wrote, 'A book must be the ax for the frozen sea within us.' Runaway Girl just might become such a book. [Phelps] gives the reader valuable insight into a problem that is larger than most people realize." —San Francisco Chronicle "Runaway Girl demonstrates a great amount of insight and maturity. Crisp writing and perfectly chosen events highlight the story of what happens to the majority of 12 year olds on the street." —School Library Journal, selected as one of the "Best Adult Books for Teens 2012" "Riveting . . . A genuinely important book that casts the problem of sex trafficking in America into stunning, heartbreaking relief." —Kirkus Reviews "A brave memoir" —Publishers Weekly "A runaway and school dropout by age 12 who worked the streets for a brutal pimp, Phelps finally freed herself and is now a lawyer also working with a global collective helping survivors of sex trafficking rebuild their lives. This memoir, following hard on the heels of an award-winning documentary, is stirring some interest." —Library Journal |
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