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Patch Flash: IL Senate Says Yes to Gay Marriage Bill
Same-sex marriage bill proceeds to the House for a vote.
Illinois gay and lesbian couples received a Valentine's Day gift from the Illinois Senate. The Democrat-led Senate passed legislation, in a 34-21-2 vote, this afternoon that would allow same-sex marriages in Illinois, according to Huffington Post.
The gay marriage bill now goes to the House.
If it is signed into law, marriage officially would be changed in state law from an act between a man and a woman to two people. The legislation says nothing in the proposed law would force a religious denomination or minster to "solemnize any marriage," according to the Chicago Tribune.
If the bill is also approved by the state House of Representatives, Illinois will join Washington, D.C. and nine other U.S. marriage equality states, according to the Huffington Post. Illinois has had civil unions available for same-sex couples since June 2011.
Patch Reader
3:30 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
It's about damn time! Finally, IL does something right!
6:58 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I'm indifferent to the whole thing. It really doesn't effect my day one way or the other, but @Gina.... one thing for certain is that your children will be far more acceptable of it than you apparently are. It's either that or they'll have to go to some dark corner of the planet.
3:32 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
America is doomed..who is representing those who oppose gay marriage ??? Democrats after the gay--Hispanic votes is sickening and I 'm a Democrat and a Hispanic..America for sale just vote for us.
Becky Werner
3:51 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
This state is in total chaos. Politicians will spend unending taxpayer money to buy votes. There is no one representing those who disagree as only the corrupt are represented in this state. We are a national joke and disgrace.
9:44 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I am with you jose!!! However, people seem to be running down the road to destruction and cheering all the way
Dan Arenov
3:42 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Illinois is slowly decomposing and is led by fools. This shouldn't surprise anyone.
4:48 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
To those negative posters in this thread - tell how your children require God's help if Gays and Lesbians are finally granted the same rights as anyone else?
If you feel God thinks gay marriage is wrong, ya' know what? Don't get gay married.
Let me know when you start campaigning to make divorced illegal, since that is mentioned far more in the bible. The bible says don't eat pork. Shall we pass a law? And what about that whole "don't judge others" thing?
Picking and choosing biblical passages to hide your own dislike is cowardly. You find homosexuals distasteful, that's your right. But own up to it and don't hide behind the bible and don't use your interpretation of what God wants to dictate what rights you are willing to "allow" other people to have.
Do you enjoy using your computer to type your hateful comments? You might also want to google "Alan Turing" who was not only a war hero, he also is considered the father of modern computing. He committed suicide, because he was persecuted for being gay, which was illegal
While it is no longer illegal in American to be gay, right now, in 2013, you can still be fired in a majority of states, simply for being gay (or even being perceived as gay even if your not).
You may want to remember the phrase "All men are created equal..." Slowly, we are getting there.
Flame away haters. I will not add any more content to this thread. May God have mercy on you for judging others, in defiance of God's will.
9:50 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
All men are not created equal, as for God he leaves choices up to us and only watches to see what we will do and kicks our butts when we have gone too far.
5:00 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Didn't you know, Skokieguy? If the gays can marry it means heterosexual couples will divorce, become gay themselves, and then marry their new same-sex partner. The whole country will become gay! It's just a matter of time! For people who scream so much about rights and freedom, you'd think they would want that for all Americans, not just for themselves and their narrow-minded intolerant pals. I guess only the tea party et al. has the divine right to say who gets freedom and who does not. They are so righteous after all.
10:45 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Hey Sully and Skokieguy, you both brought up GREAT POINTS. I especially love Sully's thought about straight people divorcing for a gay relationship. And you're right Skokieguy what's next a ban on divorce. BUT I WANT TO ASK ALL AGAINST GAY MARRIAGE, CAN I HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON WHETHER YOU CAN MARRY OR NOT!!! I have Gay friends who are couples and been together 25plus years and Straight friends who are on marriage #3 ,what happened to "Till Death Do Us Part!!" I guess you lied while taking your vows!!!
Dan Arenov
8:47 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
"I have Gay friends who are couples and been together 25plus years and Straight friends who are on marriage #3 ,what happened to "Till Death Do Us Part!!" I guess you lied while taking your vows!!!"
and there are gay couples who got married in states allowing homosexuals to marry each other and they are ALREADY divorced.
did they lie while taking their vows? did you not consider that point before adding the exclamation marks?
NS Watchdog
10:35 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Reubear, "CAN I HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON WHETHER YOU CAN MARRY OR NOT!!!" has to be the dumbest, most idiotic statement I've heard since BO said he would cut the deficit in half. Your straight friends who are on marriage #3 probably in fact support gay marriage and therefore have no respect for the sanctity of marriage
Moe @ the Buck
8:29 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Congratulations to all alternative lifestyles. It's been a long time coming. I'm sure I don't have to tell you to not listen to the haters. As far as Jose, just for the record, Your a Democratic who hates gay, illegal, hispanics with valid drivers licences?? You Keep saying your hispanic, but are you really?? Can you prove that to us??
Dan Arenov
8:50 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
"Congratulations to all alternative lifestyles."
uh, that's a bizarre statement.
"..As far as Jose, just for the record, Your a Democratic who hates gay, illegal, hispanics with valid drivers licences??"
i read Jose's posts. he disagrees with illegal immigration and disagrees with gay marriage, so in Moe's world that translates to 'HATE'?
What is it with liberals? Anybody else notice how quickly they pull out the 'racist' label and the 'hate' label? Liberals are intolerant of opposing opinion.
9:46 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Liberals feed off of division, without it they die. Without the groups they cater to, there would be no liberals since there is no ideology that defines them. Reason number one why the President is all out of ideas on our economy after the stimulus left the chamber.
9:20 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
McCloud The Election is over. Your got suggestions e-mail him
5:52 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Hey Mac, stick to the point instead of changing every single topic into a commentary about Obama. Or is that all you know? Yes, I believe that's it. You don't know anything else so you have to stick to the topic of how awful Obama is. You really need to get out of the house more.
10:05 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
I'm guessing most or all of you haters don't have a Gay relative or friend. Too bad. If you drop the Cheetos and get out of your Mom's basement, you might meet some people. LGBT rights is just one in a long line of equality rights that were once considered negatively (and still are by some of you), the Woman's right to vote and choose, the end of slavery, Civil Rights, the rights of the disabled etc. maybe Strom Is rolling over in his grave, but even Newt is okay with Gay Marriage. Relax and worry about real issues...like debt, taxes and North Korea. Jeez.
Dan Arenov
10:26 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
"Relax and worry about real issues...like debt, taxes and North Korea. Jeez."
how ironic.
that's exactly what i would tell the president. who, btw, has NOBODY on his staff who is an expert on Korean affairs and made a big point back in 2007 to tell us that he would not allow North Korea to gain nuclear capabilities.
Dan Arenov
10:27 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
"..I'm guessing most or all of you haters "
typical liberal talk. if you disagree with something, that makes you a 'hater'.
10:41 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
While I agree with Dick Cheney on this, I respect the opinions of others who have their own values attached to their feelings. Frankly the entire issue is a political tool. as I described above. Liberals would rather use this issue to divide people, while our budget mushroom clouds and business leaves the state driving unemployment up with a no growth agenda, I'll post my link again, for those who want to face facts.
12:45 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
@Dan, I didn't ID you as a hater, necessarily. The fact that you disagree is your right. There are some on these boards that are nasty about this opportunity to bring equal rights to the LGBT community. This bill guarantees the right for any religion to refuse Gay marriage, so that excuse is invalid. Marriage can be a civil ceremony. People that don't even believe in God have the right to get married. Even a murderer on Death Row can get married. But not a Gay brother or sister? Beyond religion, it gets down to a bigoted attitude toward Gays. Diversity is good. The Constitution guarantees that everyone is equal. It does not say some people are more equal than others.
Sandy R
10:21 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
God help us to defeat this bill. It is a Pandora's box.
Please call you state representative and demand that they vote NO on it.
Here is our resource:
10:23 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Thanks for the link. Called mine encouraged her to VOTE FOR IT.
12:49 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Me too! Call or write your representative asking them to okay marriage equality. The bill clearly allows churches to refuse to participate. Marriage is a civil ceremony. Heck, they do drive by marriages in Vegas. Weddings are performed on Death Row. 50% of straight marriages end in divorce. The 'institution of marriage' will be strengthened by more people who love each other being able to get married. Denying our Gay brothers and sisters the right to Marry is wrong.
1:07 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
@RB Churches today can refuse to do Straight Weddings and Gay Civil Unions
Moe @ the Buck
11:53 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Dan, take it easy guy. I read your posts and you bring up some interesting points that I sometimes agree or disagree on. I don't think that anyone who is opposed to gay rights is a hater. I do think that some of the posts about this subject, not just in this article, are hateful. "Haters" is a loose term used by my generation to describe someone who never says anything nice about anyone. In my opinion, you remind me of my uncle willard, who sat in his lazy boy complaining about liberals most of his life. Don't let the Patch, and the people commenting rule your life. Go out and clean your garage or something:)
Dan Arenov
12:43 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Moe, you got me laughing, man..
Yes, i know 'haters' is a term pretty much started by ESPN'ers. However, i do see a lot of people pull out the 'hate' card with those they disagree with.
I'm looking forward to bellying up to the bar at your gay friendly establishment. Now let me go check the cup and see if my teeth are clean yet.
3:03 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Next year in the state of the Union speech BO will be urging that gay sex be taught in preschool, and the US will be willing to fund the entire world. After all, since it is considered normal and you have to be made aware of your possible choices in marriage. Out with the old and in with the new !!! Its a gay new world we face now!
Mr Tibbs
7:57 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Burt, what sicko pre-school do you o to that teaches any sex?
And what is it you are so afraid of?
3:33 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
PATCH...it's time you pull this thread. Comments like those made by Burt and some others don't contribute to the conversation.
RB Needs Mental Attention
9:53 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Attn Patch: I think it is time for you to "PULL" ALL comments ever made by RB. I don't agree with them nor do we feel this persons adds any constructive to this board
Allowing this individual to continually post comments and state facts that only an insane individual could ever conceive makes me believe in my professional opinion. That this person, is in desperate need of medical attention.
Just Sayin
1:27 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
RB Needs Mental Attention...Whomever you are...probably Burt...needs to go back to eighth grade. Your "professional opinion" reads like a child wrote it.
3:38 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Lots of Burts in the world. mostly Blah Blah Blah with noting worthwhile to read or hear
Chris Ripkey
3:48 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I feel better about my choices every day....so do my kids!
Jacob Chodash
4:25 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Whether you support being gay or not you should support their rights. Fundamental rights in America do not just add value to those who have them but also those who don't. America was built off of the concept of the minority, as an accepting country not a rejecting one. The Senate did not vote on whether you need to accept gays or join their lifestyle or support the choice they make. The Senate merely voted on letting them make the same choices like you and me. Even with civil unions all we created was a separate but equal system and how equal was it. Due to DOMA other states and the federal government weren't required to accept the fact that the couple was married in Illinois. There is no homosexual agenda in the same way as there is no heterosexual agenda. There is an American agenda where people do not deserve to be discriminated against due to issues of disagreement by the state (speech, press, religion, sex, race, national origin, LGBT status).
Deerfield Resident
5:09 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
It's a rights issue....just like gun ownership rights.....the thing that disturbs most people about even talking about gays is the impact it will have on our kids and the disgusting acts they do behind closed doors! Just look at one of their parades....it's all about sex! NOT the type of sex God had in mind.....disgusting. Drop that portion of the equation and maybe I'll listen to their needs for rights.
5:40 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Really people, don't worry about what others do behind closed doors. I don't spend any time thinking about my straight friends' sex life. Sure the parade is over the top, and I've always argued detrimental to the cause, but just don't go if you don't like it.
Our kids will be just fine. Making same sex marriage legal doesn't make more kids gay. We won't be teaching anything about a gay lifestyle other than tolerance, and we should be teaching that for all things. You don't have to like how someone lives his or her life, but unless it directly affects you, let it go. There is absolutely no way two men or two women marrying one another is going to have an impact on my life.
I firmly believe that 90 percent of the overly aggressive, anti-gay people would change their minds if someone they loved was gay. Once you know and love a gay person, you'll see they are no different than a straight person.
5:56 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
So Dan, Mac, Watchdog, and any others, the states with the highest divorce rates would be those states supporting gay marriage and those on the blue side of the aisle, correct?
Deerfield Resident
7:50 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Deerfield........I know your last statement is true. Yeah I hope our kids will be fine and not try out the lifestyle. You know how gays claim it's not choice but you're born with it......OK, I believe it's fact with a majority of gays but... What's the "B" stand for in LGBT... Bisexual...surely your not born with that! That just promiscuity..... thats a choice and I don't want our kids making a "choice" because its "cool" Being gay is promoted as being "cool" these days.
Deerfield Resident
7:56 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Sully... Are you saying its better to be gay "or being gay" than trying to make a normal marriage work and getting a divorce? If so .... You're the possible future I'm worried about!
Deerfield Resident
8:37 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Reubear Gay couples stay married because gladly still there's not many and it's too hard finding another partner. Are you actually saying gay people's love is stronger than heterosexuals? God help us....its the end!
9:35 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I'm not really sure how you're putting those words into my mouth. Since no answer was provided, I'll supply it for you-
I'm saying that the states with the highest divorce rates are the states where family values are touted the most (touted- not necessarily achieved) and that claim gay marriage will ruin marriage for everyone else. It looks like they're doing a fine job all by themselves without having all those gays spoiling it for the rest. So anyway, who are you to say gays can't love each other as much as straight people? How is that measured? I believe that is an opinion, not a fact. Just as your assertion that they stay married because there are so few is an opinion and not a fact. There is a difference between the two.
9:52 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Why should God help anyone as narrow, close-minded, and intolerant as you and your equally-minded "Christian" friends? I don't think these are qualities He would particularly be proud of. Why would he reward you for being so non-Christian in your words and actions?
Deerfield Resident
10:09 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Sully I don't open "strange" links.... So lets all bash traditional marriage and become gay! I'd actually like to never hear about it like the old days but that's impossible with todays liberal anything goes mentality so Please just close the door so I don't have to see it!
7:28 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Sure- you can remain ignorant in your walled off compound as much as you like. Doesn't really matter to me. I'm straight, liberal, and have a wonderful family who are neither narrow-minded nor bigoted and use their brains for analytical thought. That doesn't make them liberal- it makes than caring human beings. We are not threatened by the boogie men that haunt your world.
7:42 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
By the way, this "strange" link makes no mention of homosexuals; it simply lists the top ten states for divorce rates. I guess the "wall street" in the title wasn't clear enough for you to understand.
10:34 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I grew up in Grayslake. I hope that the views in this comment thread don't really reflect the views of my neighbors. I'm in my early 20's and all I can say is that I am disgusted with the amount of bigotry and hate that is prevalent in this thread.
Take every argument against gay-marriage and replace the words 'gay' and 'homosexual' with 'black' or 'bi-racial' and look at how foolish you all sound. Adults such as yourselves should be ashamed at the example you are setting for future generations. Your views will not change theirs, only their opinions of you when you're dead.
Procrustes' Foil
5:21 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
The amount of bigotry and hatred that is prevalent in this thread is equally prevalent in most threads on the Patch. Civil discourse is no longer possible in this country. Insults are the rule. Posters also recommend links that are also filled with hatred, vitriol and "misinformation." These posters seem to enjoy their barbaric treatment of others - and then they call themselves Christians!
7:31 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I wouldn't get too discouraged. Bigots love to scream, and this is a great place for them to do it. They represent a smaller and smaller portion of the population, regardless of how much they huff and puff and pretend otherwise.
7:39 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Demosthenes, you are assuming they don't feel the same way about black or bi-racial people as they do about gay ones. Does it make you feel better to know that this thread is not only from Grayslake, so not all of these comments come from Grayslakers. You and your friends are this country's future and soon enough the bigotry, homophobia, and hatred toward one's fellow man due to their differences will die off. There will always be hatred in this country, but I would hope that will be the exception, not the rule.
8:42 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Hey Deerfield Resident, gays can just as easily find other loves. But I guess Yes we know how to love better or why would you leave you spouses for another if you truly loved them. WHAT DOES "TILL DEATH DO US PART "really mean? Does death = I hate you now let's divorce? My gay friends have kids and their families are just as healthy as yours.. We may be your neighbors and you not know it,get use to it!!!
Deerfield Resident
9:18 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
All....I knew I'd take flak for my stance- but I'm willing to take it. The degradation of society is a concern of mine and you all are just adding to it and angry because if you could be born again -surely you wouldn't choose to be gay. You're just angry about it and insist that people understand you. If they don't you play the race card or wish them death. By the way,any one of you want to justify the"B" in LGBT? Or is it that you just believe anything goes?
9:38 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Angry? About what? About gays wanting the same rights as others? I'm not gay D.R. but I respect other's rights to be who they are. no one who is not already can be turned gay. You're just another holier-than-though scared little boy who is unwilling to learn more about the facts. To me, that makes you ignorant and intolerant. Pretty much the way I'd describe most fundamentalists who would rather think that God will do all your thinking for you. You're really just lazy and want an excuse for your un-Christian behavior.
9:52 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Yet another contradictory post from you, I'm not angry or intolerant....but all fundamentalists are lazy and stupid. Typical narrow views from the left.
10:59 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Why do I have to be angry to have a certain opinion? Fundies can do what they want, but they do not have the right to ask everyone else to believe and do as they do. To you Mac, everything is broken into the hated liberals or the loving devout Christians. Black and white thinking. This is a human issue that shouldn't be about one group being better than another. You and Vicky and Deerfield Resident ARE intolerant. Not because I say so, but because it's true. There's plenty of evidence to support that. I didn't say stupid. I said un-Christian. Enough evidence to illustrate that as well.
sully is so angry
5:24 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Sully why are you such an angry person? You and RB should be the poster children for all that is wrong with this country. I would tell you to get a life and get out of your parents basement. But something tells me you are living in your kids basement.
Deerfield Resident
3:23 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
We had a family party a few years back. It was right before my son was going to college and we decided to look up his assigned room mate on facebook. His room mates profile said he liked men and the party went nuts at my sons expense. You had to be there -it was one of the funniest moments ever and we laugh about it often. Needless to say he got right at it and changed room mates. Could you imagine what it would be like to start out your college experience that way! All I have to say is thank God for facebook and please don't legislate away our ability to laugh about it!
1:44 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
I'd say the gay room mate was the lucky one. He didn't have to live with your son and put up with intolerance and bigotry.
5:00 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@Deerfield Resident. Maybe your intolerance would have brought your son up to do something like was done by Tyler Clemente's roommate or maybe not. If your son is not too influenced by you, he may have been okay with having a Gay roommate. I'm sure he'll never admit it to you. Many of his peers could probably care less. Would YOU have been okay with him having a black roommate or perhaps one with a disability, or a Muslim? How far are you teaching your family to go with their intolerance? Laughing at someone else's expense, especially while they are not at the party? I bet you had a big laugh. And yes, I can imagine starting out your college experience with a Gay roommate would be okay for many students starting college without a bigoted upbringing.
7:00 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
God forbid the rooomate was a Catholic white male who held conservative ideology from his upbringing, certainly that would be the worst.
Deerfield Resident
7:20 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
How uncomfortable having a gay roommate - college is hard enough! And RB ...you demonstrated exactly what I thought...that the gay agenda is to be forced upon us no matter what......no thanks. Plus I thought you,d all get a laugh at that..... His potential roommate obviously put that out there so he'd have a sympathetic roommate and it was a nice heads up for my son! If you're going to bring a sexual preference into it and are forced to room with someone - you better know what they like whether you agree with it or not. Another story for you ...when I was in college my roommate had a girl over every night or more specific ...every day for you know what. That was hard enough to deal with but expected from him. Imagine that scenario for your straight son with a gay roomate...the way it's going - that'll be the norm. Keep everyone's sexual habits behind closed doors including straights and we'll all be better off.
Mr Tibbs
8:13 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Did you have any luck finding an asexual college roommate for your son or did you just have him neutered?
12:52 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
I am Gay Freebies Resident Ass, at it was at the start of the Aids crisis when I could have been ridiculed and beat up..All my roommates were Heterosexual, and we got along just fine. One I am still chatting with regularly 30 years later. We learned from each other. Your son could have too,if he hadn't been brainwashed by people like you!! I sing with The Chicago Gay Mens Chorus and we had Heterosexual singers join us,because we don't believe in reverse discrimination, and They wanted to sing!!!
7:46 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Thanks for your comment. It's sad to read all the fear and hate that comes out of people these days. A lot of people seem to think that if they are in a room with a gay person that they will make them gay as well, or that the gay person will force themselves upon the hetero person. People need to quit flattering themselves. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they will love you and want to date you. And if a guy thinks you are attractive? It means you look good, super. It doesn't mean you are gay also.
If you get back to your room and there is the old sock on the door, you just hang out at your friend's room, like you would if your roommate was in there with a girl. I don't want to walk in on either of them. Worried about what they are doing? Reality check again, there isn't one thing a gay couple does sexually that many hetero couples don't do either.
Dan Arenov
10:59 am on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Just Sayin, Demosthenes, Procrustes Foil, Nightcrawler, Reubear, etc.. When are you ladies going to come out of the closet and use your given names? It's easy to sit where you are and call everyone else 'ignorant' and 'haters' when you are anonymous. Really. What's up with that?
6:12 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Using your entire full name on internet forums like this are foolish. Attempting to call people out for the use of a screen name on a forum just means you have no debating skills or have run out of anything worthwhile to say. Hopefully you will wise up.
Dan Arenov
8:28 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
@Charles, at least you go by your first name.
I disagree with your suggestion that calling people out for being totally anonymous equates to not being able to debate, etc.. I would suggest to you that people who go on a community forum and use names e.g., like 'mr. common sense', etc. are spewing opinions and calling people ugly names because they aren't willing to stand up for their convictions.
Dan Arenov
8:31 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
so Just looked me up and Procrustes researched someone else (Evanston Patch). I guess you ladies are right...it's the leftists we have to worry about out there.
8:46 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Using first name is fine by me..... Suppose could make up a last name like Dan has
8:47 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
You keep bringing up names, how do you know and why are concerned that people who use a first name are actually using their first names? When people have threatened to beat me up and intimate at wishing I would get shot, why on earth would anyone use their full/real name?
8:58 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
@Brian names don't matter here since like you said who knows if its there name or not. Brings it up as a way to get of topic
Dan Arenov
9:17 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Lucas: "@Brian names don't matter here since like you said who knows if its there name or not. Brings it up as a way to get of topic"
A way to get off topic? uh, that's just whack.
Listen, my biggest gripe about this is that 1. i have no idea if i'm talking to a man, woman or 13 year old Hindu boy, and yes, i treat people differently considering where they are coming from in life. 2. It's easy to call people racists and haters when you aren't using your name.
As much as the internet has helped us, this anonymity has made us nastier towards our fellow man. or woman. or Hindu boy.
9:31 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
@Dan Arenov that should have been off topic not of topic (sorry) Your correct you don't know who your responding to. Don't even know if they are in this State or Country.
10:54 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
@Dan, you assume way too much about my screen name. I enjoy anonymity on forums. And yes, it is because I want to hide my real identity. If you had worked in the IT field as long as I have, you'd be smarter than you are now with regards to using your real name on public forums. So you just keep on assuming what you do and that's fine by me.
12:02 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
So Dan, does that comment above mean that you would change your stance and/or delivery based on who you are talking to? Why not just assume you are always talking to your peers? If it is hard to tell, then it just becomes a discussion. You're not talking down to a person based on what you prejudge their mental capacity to be.
Dan Arenov
12:39 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
@Brian. Yes, not my stance, but yes..i definitely use a different tone with women and children.
You believe that pretending that you're always talking to a peer is the best approach, but as you can see by some of the back and forth diatribe, people end up name calling, etc.. and i'm just not going to get into some of that with women and teenagers. Not that they can't handle it, it's just not the way i was raised to behave.
Just Sayin
12:14 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Well Dan...We could have chosen screen names that looked like given birth names...such as...let me think...ahhhh perhaps the name Dan Arenov. But...we appear more creative than you. I could stop there...but I have one more point...and I hope this illuminates you. In this day and age it is intelligent and prudent not to use a given name in social media sites. Just too many ways to be tracked down...and...given the apparent number of lunatics out there why take unnecessary chances with ones safety. A whole lot of innocents get stalked and killed over less than words on a second rate news service such as the Patch. For instance, I just searched your "name" as given here on the P. on multiple social media sites, including the White Pages and a random check on Google. No Dan Arenov came up. Plenty of Dan Arenovskis however. Hummmmmm... Ok...the findings could indicate you spurn all social media sites ( which means you are very old and totally out of touch) , or it means that you have a ' ski ' at the end of your birth name which you have conveniently dropped for Patch comments or finally, you are hiding your true identity behind a moniker as well. All in all and at the very least, you may be the imprudent one here...so calling people out on their choices is well..."ignorant". If you would like to discuss this further, please include your correct home phone number in the next comment. Or...LOL are you all of a sudden going to get prudent.
Procrustes' Foil
6:35 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Just Sayin', you're absolutely right. There are a lot of crazies out there who could easily threaten anyone who disagrees with them. Last year and for the hell of it, I googled one of the most virulent poster on the Evanston Patch. I found a ton of information about him and also saw how pathetic he was. He also foolishly revealed a lot about himself on Evanston Patch that made it easy to find him. After all of that, I actually felt sorry for him.
Just Sayin
10:58 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Procrustes' Foil...If it was Richard Schulte you investigated...didn't we all...LOL. I appreciate that you felt sorry for him. He was/is a pathetic sot. I also appreciate your chosen moniker. Perfectly appropriate for this type of communication.
1:56 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Arenovski... that sounds Ruskie to me. You a communist, boy?
2:13 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Richard Schulte- now there's a name I haven't thought of in a while. He's probably living in a bunker somewhere eating only canned goods and not taking showers while waiting for the apocalypse to occur. Either that or he's in a nice hospital psychiatric care unit.
Just Sayin
2:56 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Sully....Thanx for the Schulte laugh. My speculation of his current life is a bit more twisted. I see him living in Gibsonton, Fla. aka Freaktown USA. It was/is the winter home of various circus organizations. Many aging circus 'freaks' ( probably great people) retire there. He lives in a single wide with cardboard window coverings and a hot plate. He does eat only canned produce and meat and sleeps on a flea bitten twin size mattress on the floor. He rants and raves but his neighbors, the worlds shortest man and the bearded lady pay no mind. Once a week he consults the one eyed fortune teller. He wants to know when the construction business will pick up and when Obama will die. Laughingly, he is stuck in a Fellini like nightmare of his own making.
Deerfield Resident
4:32 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Brian...the article was about equality but what most of you ignor is the lifestyle that goes along with it and I have a problem with that. You helped my cause by actually identifying that and condoning it as normal....if that sock means there's 2 guys in there and it's my room, first I think I' d be sick then I'm calling housing for a new room across campus. How gross!
6:41 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
DR, I'm sure you are cynical enough that you don't get sick to your stomach when you read about the many social conservatives and celebrities of our time cheating on their spouses by having....sex! As long as it's straight sex you ignore the 'lifestyle'. Infidelity in marriage is an epidemic and you're worried about what two committed individuals do in privacy. Tiger Woods, Rev. Ted Haggard, Jim Baker, Jimmy Swaggart, Newt Gingrich, all cheated, and you judge.
7:43 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
You can just reply directly to my comment above if it is to be aimed at me. And I fail to see what the lifestyle has to do with any of this. As I mentioned, if two men or two women are in a room together, anything they can and will do sexually can and is done by heterosexual couples as well.
You seem to be against the equality of it and against the act. So not only do you feel that not everyone deserves the same governmental rights, but it seems you also would like to monitor what goes on behind closed doors.
I know you are looking to cause a rise here by throwing phrases and words like "laughing at him" and "gross" but none of your talking points touch on the overall issue at all here. You happily put down others to make yourself seem and feel superior.
I'm sure if this was the 60's and the last miscegenation laws were being struck down you would spouting off the same vitriol about interracial relations. Get over it. Gay rights really don't affect you or me or anyone who is heterosexual.
Mr Tibbs
8:26 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Dear Field Resident,
What's the lifestyle you talk of? Is it that people are having intimate relationships? Is it just that you think relationships are only about sex? It would seem that the above description has met your requirement of not really knowing what is going on and since it isnt impacting you, not being a concern of yours. But yet you must imagine what is going on, lingering over it, replaying it again and again in slow motion in your head; feeling your hands get a little sweaty and you heart race a faster. Hmmmm... Well maybe you are right; these gays are affecting you.
2:04 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Who are you to judge anyone else's lifestyle, Mr. Resident (if that is your true name name)? I don't agree with the redneck gun junkie lifestyle in which you are a part. Tolerant, cerebral, and educated is really the norm, so you just don't cut it. I don't think you should be allowed to vote without taking an IQ test. And you certainly shouldn't be able to look at any ladies in a higher class than yourself. Hmm, what other constraints can I put on you because of the way I judge you? Brian? J.S.? What do you guys think? What rights should the ridiculous of this country have taken away?
Deerfield Resident
8:16 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Brian yeah but 2 men having sex IS gross - fact of life! I don't want to monitor anything - I just don't want to hear about people's sexual habits. More importantly don't compare mixed marriages with gay rights like its the next hurdle. I have no problem with straight mixed marriages. I have a real problem with the gay agenda because its the disintegration of society!
RB. So you think it's better to be gay than straight because straights cheat too much....oh my god...anything to feel good about yourself - get some help.
1:22 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
What you are saying is the same thing though. Two people in love, black and white or two of the same gender. Your argument is the same as what was said in the 50's and 60's. It's gross, societal breakdown, shameful, abomination....You don't want others to be happy because you think it is gross. I don't eat yogurt...i think it's awful...that doesn't make it wrong for others. I wouldn't have sex with a man...not something that would do it for me. That doesn't make it wrong for others. My life stays exactly the same if someone eats yogurt in front of me or someone marries the same gender in front of me.
You want to blame the degradation of society on two people in love. Real good logic. Damn, all this love is tearing our country apart.
When your only argument is that it is "gross," you are swinging at air.
7:45 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
No DR, it's the hypocrisy of your "lifestyle" statement. Cheaters and liers are fine as long as they are straight as far as you're concerned. Are you saying its okay for two women to have sex? That's progress, but your recovery from absurdity is a long road for you.
Just Sayin
11:31 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Deerfield Resident..."Two men having sex IS gross" is not a fact of life. It is merely your perspective. Having read many of your comments in this thread and others I am most fortunate not to see the world from your perspective. I am also fortunate not to have to live in Deerfield. What a win-win for me!
2:09 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
It is a good thing Resident doesn't use his real name, otherwise, people who know him would find out just what kind of person he is. He'd be fired in a second from whatever job he might have (unless he's paid to call liberal talk radio shows pretending to be somewhat intelligent until he opens his mouth). Resident, you give ignorant small minded idiots a bad name.
10:56 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Hey Brian and Evening,
I guess I shouldn't mention to our Deerfield friend, that in 1963 there was a Black Gay man named Based Rusting..I saw a documentary on him Friday night. He worked with Dr King and almost brought gay right to the fore front then. He silenced himself for he was one, but you can't silence 1000s.
And I Thank Adonai my G-D that he made me Gay.. I hope that I am a reincarnation of another Gay person..
9:06 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
My final word on this is I am voting straight republican ticket in Illinois since only 2 democrats voted against gay marriage. The Democrats have lost their minds and I have had enough.
Walter White
11:10 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Yes, and this country voted overwhelmingly for Democratic control. So what does that tell you? It's OK for you and Ernie to get married, Burt.
11:28 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
@Burt FYI: That support has been building in Springfield, too, as evidenced by the Senate vote. Illinois Republican Party Chairman Pat Brady announced his support for same-sex marriage, prompting an attempt by some conservatives to oust him from the party post. That attempt failed. Undeterred by the risk of repercussions, Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka, also a Republican, recently urged lawmakers to "go for it."
Just Sayin
11:47 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Burt...In other words you will be voting the straight "stupid" ticket. And please...let that truly be your final word.
Dan Arenov
12:21 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Burt, Illinois is racing to have the absolute worst representative government on the face of the earth. You are just standing in the way of...progress.
10:49 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Who really cares who people love and want to marry. All people regardless of race, sexuality, religion, non-religion, should have equal rights period. I'm super happy for our gay community and glad Illinois is moving in the right direction.. If only the state could tackle their economic issues as quickly.
Just Sayin
11:11 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. Instead of being so concerned about tailoring your comments to a specific gender or ethnicity, why don't you just speak your truth to a fellow human being and let them sort it out from their perspective. Give men, women and Hindu boys some credit. Remember...just because it is you truth does not make it THE TRUTH. Oh...BTW...where is your home phone number? I am sure at least several of us would love to give you a ring. And...it would serve your desire to tailor a conversation with great accuracy. Moron.
Dan Arenov
12:12 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Just, i'm generally a little bit kinder to women in my travels. You can blame my parents for that.. and a little quicker to give it right back to somebody if i believe that they are a man.
I'm also a little bit more considerate when 'debating' a teenager, as they think they know more than they do at that age and tend to be a little bit more idealistic than realistic.
this doesn't mean that i'm going to change my point of view, but i may be less lenient when dealing with men.
We can argue all day long about this, but i am convinced that the internet has made us a nastier nation of people quick to name call, etc. You are certainly proof of that.
Mr Tibbs
5:24 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan, While we may not see ee-eye on most issues, I will say that the anonymity of the internet and postings have made us a much more agressive and less polite society. I think that it also leads to people making wild accusations knowing that they do not have to stand behind them. We have folks on both sides of the aisle (using politics for an example) who will propagate half-truths since they know that it cannot be traced back to them. Lord knows how many Facebook posts I have seen from both Liberals and Conservatives that will say things that are absolutely non-sense... they just hope to feed the frenzy and that some folks along the line will believe and forward it as the truth. I think that the anonymity has also led to folks showing some of their 'real-colors' because they can show a point of view that might otherwise be hidden because it is too far out of the main stream. This can be blantant bigotry and prejudice against all of a race or religion (see Deerfield Resident posts in this string for a perfect example of this) or death threats against Rush Limbaugh.
I try to post things under my psuedonym exactly as I would if I were writing under my actual name. But to the point someone else made, even then there is still some fear that someone out there crazy enough to push a discussion too far to the point actual physical harm to my family. That's probably why even you used a variation of your actual name.
Mr Tibbs
5:35 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
but that said, Dan, my parent also brought me up to be very polite. I still say Sir and Ma'am to most all I meet. I try to open doors for those that may need it and yes, I do still give my seat up on the train if a woman doesn't have one (most of the time). I would say that the other part of the internet is that it is the great unknown and begs for people to treat others equally to start. you don't know if the person is man, woman, millionaire, food-stamp recipient, laborer, executive, gay, straight, democrat, republican or independent. Hopefully it allows us to treat others as equal to start with... which is really all that most of the discussion of gay rights is about. My sexuality has nothing to do with whether I should be a boy scout or can pick the life-partner of my choice and receive the same rights as others who have also picked their mate. For the most part (except for Deerfield Resident) that sexuality should not impact you at all.
Dan Arenov
9:12 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Mr. Tibbs, i enjoy reading your comments even though we often disagree.. i try and treat women and the elderly the same way you do. And yes, after seeing that at least two people here, that i get into disagreements with, have tried to look me up to see where i live, etc.. i would agree that some level of anonymity is necessary. You can see in this thread that one of the posters has looked for my phone number and keeps asking me to post it. Why? It's not because she wants to call me to invite me for drinks or something.
Just Sayin
11:18 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. One more thought. You must hate women. You use the term 'ladies' as derogatory! And you think libs are messed up. Sir...I suggest you take a good long G damned look at yourself in a mirror.
Dan Arenov
12:16 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Wow. I hate women?
Just, i did not use the term 'ladies' as derogatory. Your reading comprehension skills are sorely lacking. I believe it was YOU who took being called a lady as derogatory.
If you are a lady, as i presume, i'm not sure why you would take offense. If you are a man (doubtful), i would tell you to iron my shirt.
Just Sayin
12:51 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. Let's see..." when are you ladies going to come out of the closet". Are you trying to tell me that was a compliment? Are you trying to tell me that you think everyone who uses a moniker is a woman...when clearly they are not? No...you are inferring weakness not to stand-up for convictions. You are equating women (ladies) with being deceptive and weak. Listen bud...I have spent enough time around my pals to know to what you were inferring.
Other than mass and muscle all the women I have known...starting with my grandmother and mother and sisters are the stronger sex. Yeah...try again to tell me you were not being derogatory moron.
Dan Arenov
1:14 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Just: ".. Are you trying to tell me that you think everyone who uses a moniker is a woman...when clearly they are not? "
Who can tell? i certainly can't tell by your name, the way you write or from your viewpoints. You say the same things in the same way that many women around here do. And that is your prerogative!
Just Sayin
3:21 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. Exactly how thick are you? I do not know that is your real name. I do not know if you are male or female. I do not know if you are a little old lady or a Hindu boy. I do not know if you have two legs or one. Are you a guy who wears lipstick and panties to relax or a 16 year old barista who can't get my order right. The point is...IT DOES NOT MATTER. The only thing that matters are your thoughts and ideas and how you express them on the Patch. And...considering that you choose to express them on the Patch, of all places, means they don't really matter that much after all. Get over it.
Dan Arenov
4:03 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
listen, don't get your panties all in a bunch about the moniker thing. YOU are the one who decided to post with total anonymity on the internet and choose a name that is gender neutral, let alone the most copied moniker online.
And posting at Patch? yes, i post here and do blogs here.. I also post on NYT, WaPo and Politico some, but this is where the fun is...nasty Illinois liberals who want to blame Republicans for Illinois' problems.
11:24 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
The Muslim birth rate world wide is somewhere between 5 and 8 per family. The non muslim birth rate world wide is much lower, somewhere around 1.8 to 2.1. Given no change, Islam will be the majority moral philosophy very quickly. So many of these social questions will have a different outcome.
Just Sayin
11:44 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Jimbo... Take a look at the high death rate and average age of death in predominately Muslim countries. Your comment is fear mongering nonsense.
Dan Arenov
12:17 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
absolutely correct. Many of these disagreements are going to look a lot different when Sharia law rules the land.
3:18 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan, when one declares the U.S. will be under sharia law, one has totally "jumped the shark".
Mr Tibbs
5:36 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan, Care to tell me when Sharia law will take over the U.S.? or for that matter, what will cause it to supplant the constitution?
Deerfield Resident
11:56 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Muslims are another issue....but I'm sure you liberal lefts will be more than willing to accept their hatred of Americans as they take over the world right up to the time they kill you and your family in the name of allah( not capitalized). The gay issue is just something to have fun with and crack a joke or two because really...it's Adam and eve not Adam and Steve! Haha. But really ...beware of the anything goes mentality when it comes to muslims and important issues like the middle east and the future of the world I don't want to just overpopulate like they do because I believe in quality not quantity. Besides I love my children - they just want more to send them to Allah with a bomb. Come on argue that...yeah I hate Muslims and what they're about....yeah you all will come back at me crying I'm prejudiced but watch the news and remember what I say. Not everything is acceptable and you have to stand up and fight against wrong.
Dan Arenov
12:19 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
right on! this 'everything is ok' society is being driven by the 'everybody gets a trophy' generation.
Steve S.
12:23 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
You are not predjudiced, you are just plain stupid. Deerfield truly would be a better place without you. "I hate Muslims and what they're about" My guess is you have no idea what Muslims are or what they're about because you choose ignorance over education. Your parents have failed and you as a parent have failed, if you have kids in the deerfield school system as I do, I certainly hope they don't speak with as much ignorance as you and if they do, they are doomed to an ignorant backwards life such as yourself. You are not someone who stands and fights for whats wrong, rather you are a coward who uses hate to cover up the fact that you are uneducated and ignorant. I'm sure we could take the word Muslim out of your sentence and substitute, "Jews, blacks, hispanics, gays" and your feeling would be the same. Yeah, now come back at me and tell me crying telling me you really don't hate everyone, just Muslims, and my guess is you have never met or spoken to one.
Steve S.
12:27 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Are you going to revive the Deerfield chapter of the KKK? They feel the same about Muslims. If you loved your children you would teach them to love, instead you teach them to hate and fear, like your parents did to you.
2:24 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
So I guess then, the only true American is a white anglo-saxon straight fundamentalist republcan male who has an arsenal of automatic weapons and who's little woman stays in the kitchen and keeps her mouth shut and head bowed. In other words, the ignorant and uneducated. This country IS in trouble.
Just Sayin
12:34 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
DR...And...how are you BETTER if you hate Muslims like they hate you? You are not. Who else do you hate? Blacks...Gays....Jews...Women...Asians...Dentists..Liberals....Anyone who does not live in white bread Deerfield? Hate is hate bud. You may love your children...but I feel sorry for them...how sad to have a Dad that lives in fear and hate...a Dad who thinks it is fun to crack jokes about Gays. Some enlightened model you are. I hope your children will grow to see the folly of their old man's ways. Most kids do...so in that I am hopeful for your kids.
12:52 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
DR is NOT a typical Deerfield Resident. Bigots belong in a District with Joe Walsh, not Brad Schneider. At least we learned that DR's bigotry is not limited to LGBT, it also includes a hate of Muslims. Quite a little bigoted household you're bringing upon us, DR. I hope you don't have guns in the home. Move to a warm Southern State, you'll have a few more years to spew your hatred and we'll be rid of another hater. Yes, you said you HATE !!
Just Sayin
3:27 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
RB...I do not mean to pick on Deerfield and the good folks who live there. I only pick on Deerfield in the context of this Resident dufus.
12:38 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I don't hate Muslims, however I do wish they would stop lighting their women on fire, and i wish our President to stop equating our country with their atrocities. Equal funding for women's NCAA funding dis not equal lighting a woman on fire.
Dan Arenov
12:45 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Many Americans view the Republicans backing up a Catholic university's stance on issuing contraception as a 'War against women'. Just wait until Sharia law starts making inroads in the USA.
Steve S.
1:16 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I also wish that the clergy in the catholic church would stop raping young boys and covering it up.
Just Sayin
3:37 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
McClown...It's probably been years and years and years since you set a woman on fire. But I have to say...the way you get all fired up about the President it certainly appears you have a not-so-secret crush on him. Barack is probably wondering who sent him that extra special Valentine.
Mr Tibbs
5:51 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
McCloud, your statement is quite similar to me saying "I wish conservatives would stop killing black people" or "I wish Republicans would stop beating their wives". you try to link a behavior to an entire group of people that are not as homogeneous as you portray them. Usually, statements like this are the result of ignorance, fear and a lack of actual facts.
and Dan, again with the Sharia law? is there evidence or facts you wish to enter into the discussion or just trying to spook the uneducated masses?
Dan Arenov
9:16 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
"and Dan, again with the Sharia law? is there evidence or facts you wish to enter into the discussion or just trying to spook the uneducated masses?"
No. no evidence, just a hunch based on how the ACLU operates and how it seems as though we have been catering to Muslims since 9/11. And hey, take it with a grain of salt...ask anyone of these people on here and they will tell you that i am part of the great unwashed, uneducated, masses!
Deerfield Resident
1:34 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
RB / Reubear.....ever hear the one about the homo and the Muslim? I don't hate homos they're just funny and life needs humor - you chose that lifestyle - don't be so sensitive. Go ahead and make fun of anything you want about me - I can laugh with you . As for Muslims ..I lost 2 friends in 911 - I'm not looking for sympathy but now you wonder why I hate Muslims? Hate has its place ....my mother lived in France in 1939 she hated hitler and Stalin. Is it not ok to hate nazis when they were allowed to march in Skokie or the KKK when our constitution protects their right? Remember England when they thought hitler was their ally...how foolish. I'm saying beware of Muslims - I hate them for a reason you don't have to hate....yet.
1:43 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
One, Gay's don't to choose to be gay. Two, Hitler and Nazi's are not all German's and Al Quida are not all Muslims. You're very narrow minded.
1:53 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Boo hoo... "I lost 2 friends in 911".... boo hoo... "my mother bla bla bla".
You think you are the only person who has lost people to tragedy? Cry me a river you whining little person. And incidentally... the Nazis/KKK never did march in Skokie. After they won the right to, they chose not to.
Steve S.
1:56 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Well said RB, I would bet if you asked him if all of the pedophile priests adequately represent Christianity, he would say no.
2:29 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I too knew several who were killed on 9/11. Intellect, however, tells me that generalizing all Saudi Arabians because Saudis were the majority of the hijackers is unjust. I know some people in Deerfield too. I don't think they are idiots just because you are.
2:45 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Right, just like not all al-qaida are terrorists just some. Why all the generalizing?
2:51 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
The opposite is true, though- not all terrorists are al quaeda. Plenty of Americans are terrorists in their own right.
3:25 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Not all SS members committed atrocities, not all KKK members burned effigies, why compartmentalize?
Dan Arenov
9:18 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
"Boo hoo... "I lost 2 friends in 911".... boo hoo... "my mother bla bla bla".
You think you are the only person who has lost people to tragedy? Cry me a river you whining little person"
THAT is insensitive and offensive. Yes, many others have suffered loss; does that mean we don't give consideration to those who mention it?
2:25 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I think DR should be required to file separate tax returns, transfer funds with his spouse using Gift Tax Exemptions instead of spouse exemptions, not be allowed to visit his/her life partner in an Alabama hospital should they be injured, not have SS survivor benefits or pension survivor benefits, enjoy higher insurance ratings since they are not 'married'. Anything along those lines should be perfect for DR. Oh, let's have a nice respectable large multi generational Muslim family purchase the house next door, and a nice Gay family with two adoptive kids move in across the street. DR can tell some of those fun jokes at the neighborhood block party.
2:59 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Santorum is a joke! DR too. I've been here in my Mom's basement eating Cheetos and Edy's and was just thinking about that.
Dan Arenov
3:52 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Who is so pathetic that they would sign up for another username just to mock another poster?
See? that's the kind of stuff i'm talking about. That's what the internet has done for us.
4:46 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I suppose Dan hasn't noticed the other names being usurped in not so subtle ways. Did ya furgit 'bout them other 'uns, Dan, or did ya not figger out they was fakin?
3:14 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I've thought several times that Schulte was posing on here. Maybe not, but sometimes the level of absurdity matches a Schulteism. Florida just dropped Unemployment benefits from 26 weeks to 12. What bonehead moves to Florida without a job? Schulte! That's one of the last places you want to be without a safety net. Thanks Sully.
3:25 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Rich was a stark raving lunatic. If he's back, and posting, he's on meds. Meds can't help stupid crazy, but they can help make one calmer when ranting.
Dan Arenov
3:54 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
RB, did Florida really change their UI benefits? 12 weeks is not enough for anyone to find a job in this economy unless you are willing to move to North Dakota.
4:02 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan, sorry got my Southern States confused...North Carolina recently went to 12. Florida dropped to 19.
Dan Arenov
4:05 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
@RB...didn't think they would be able to do that in Florida without a couple of riots. North Carolina? I can see it.
3:28 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
The Muslim response to 9-11 was rapid and clearly indicated their stance on the incident? When/what was that again?
3:31 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan is probably Schulte's alias. Some of his comments fit
Dan Arenov
3:50 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
eh.. no. But i'm starting to think that lucas, Sully and RB are the same person.
i remember a few years back at the Northwest Herald...there was one lady who had 10 different aliases. Crazy whackjob liberal...we called her Sybil, no matter which one she posted under.
4:48 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Yep. Just Sully, all the time. It's hard for small minds to realize that more than one person may not believe as he does.
3:40 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
McAcko- the American (Bush) response to 9/11 was to free the Iraqi people from their electricity and running water while costing the US many soldiers and a great deal of money. WMD's? Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, so talk about generalizing. Now, the US drops bombs from drones on Muslims from the sky. Innocents get killed frequently. No wonder generations of Muslims are learning to hate Americans.
3:50 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Was that the war where the Senate voted 99-1 in favor, including former Madam Secretary and the current, who served in Viet Nam, Secretary? Didn't the US help Muslims in Bosnia, in Afganistan, and in Iraq? I could understand their hatred from a certain collateral damage done to an aspirin plant the day Bill Clinton was impeached. Actually their hatred goes back to the end of the second world war.
4:26 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
That's the one! Similar herd mentality taking over the GOP right now.
Dan Arenov
4:36 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
"..free the Iraqi people from their electricity and running water .."
I'll have to pass that one along to my liberal daughter. That's a money line, right there...not that i agree with it, but..
4:52 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Don't forget that Bush also let the Bin Ladens who were in America leave the country before being questioned by authorities.
4:53 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Really Dan? I guess they were living it up like vacationers in Hawaii, right?
5:09 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Herd menatlity? The GOP has moved so far to the center, I consider them Democrats. Spending bills and tax bills the GOP has turned liberal.
Dan Arenov
9:05 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Sully: "Really Dan? I guess they were living it up like vacationers in Hawaii, right?"
Sully, unlike yourself, i sometimes agree with those who i typically disagree with or give them credit for making a good point. You may want to re-read that post again before you spew.
Just Sayin
3:43 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Deerfield Resident... Don't fool yourself. It's never fun when you are around.
Just Sayin
3:47 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. If you are not man, woman or Hindu boy enough to give us your home phone number...why don't you just go away.
Dan Arenov
4:07 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Just, you are a whackjob, you know that? Here you are telling me about how it's smart to be totally anonymous on the internet so you can be as nasty to anybody as you want without fear of repercussions, and then you are asking somebody repeatedly to post their phone number. Ma'am, i don't think you are my type. I'll keep my phone number to myself, thank you.
Just Sayin
4:52 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that is your real name. You believe that those who post using anything but there given birth name do not stand up for their convictions. If that is so...and Dan Arenov is your actual name and you are so naive and imprudent to do so then why stop being imprudent? If you will use your real name...but you won't reveal your phone number THEN YOU TOO DRAW A LINE OF ANONYMITY.. Your line is simply different than others...and that, oh thick headed one, is my only point.
Just Sayin
4:56 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that is your real name, Here you complain on and on about how the internet is corrupting how people communicate...and you call people whack-jobs?
Don't complain if you can do no better...oh thick headed hypocritical one.
5:02 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I believe the term "nasty" is generally used by the female gender more than the male. Hmm.
Dan Arenov
3:48 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Interesting. the gay jokes were censored. Did they have obscenities? Did they personally attack another poster?
There are double standards..that's all.
If you know any liberals, you know that if they didn't have double standards, they would have no standards at all.
4:42 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan, you do know that you have solidified the stereotype of the angry scared "Amurican" relying on others to tell you what to think because you can't make a judgement for yourself, right? Comedians make jokes about you because you are just too ridiculous. I'd say use your common sense, but you obviously don't have any.
Oliver P. McCracken
4:45 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Also, if you know many homophobes, you'd know that if they didn't have self-shaming, anonymous, public-restroom rendezvous, they would have no rendezvous at all.
4:34 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Does anyone mind if I get back on topic? The bill is written so that Churches can deny gay marriages if they want to and the couple can't sue because of the denial. Gay marriage is a civil ceremony as much as any other marriage. Gay marriage does not threaten Marriage...divorce does. 50% of straight marriages end in divorce, so holding up the 'institution of marriage' as being threatened by two people who love each other getting married is bizarre. If you have a gay friend or family member then support for this should be easier. If you don't know that you have a gay friend or family member, them end the Gay jokes and homophobic persona and you might discover that you do have gay friends and family.
Dan Arenov
4:40 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I apologize for getting into it with Just Saying and getting off topic, but do not apologize for any gay jokes. Like ethnic jokes and jokes about our nationalities, i believe that it's ok to poke fun at ourselves and our differences.
5:00 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
How meany divorces has Newt gone through? How many of those divorces illustrated Newt's infidelity? Family values? Good one!
5:07 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
With Obamacare forcing Catholic institutions to fund contraceptive and abortion benefits, why would anyone trust Washington DC?
5:07 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I remember the jokes and didn't see how you made fun of yourself or your differences. You made offensive comments in the form of something you thought was funny. Homophobia is not funny whether its in the form of a 'joke', a lynching on fence post, a beating or a denial of visitation at death. It comes in all shapes and sizes and for some it's so ingrained that people don't even realize they are homophobic.
5:09 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan, you are making fun only of those that you find different and not at yourself. You think it's funny to make condescending jokes about gays or any other group you don't like? How about the mentally impaired? Downs Syndrome? Do you "poke fun" at them too? How about autistic kids. They're pretty funny, right? What parent wouldn't get a kick out of a supposed adult laughing at their kids? What ethnicity are you, Dan? I'm sure I could get a real hearty laugh out of you if I poke fun at your religion, ethnicity, level of education, or political affiliation. Right, Dan?
Steve S.
5:26 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan, With Catholic priests raping children over and over for hundreds of years, why would anyone trust Catholics? Abortion bad, sodomizing boys and massive cover ups good, sounds like you've got your head on straight.
Dan Arenov
9:23 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Steve: "Dan, With Catholic priests raping children over and over for hundreds of years, why would anyone trust Catholics? Abortion bad, sodomizing boys and massive cover ups good, sounds like you've got your head on straight."
Steve, can you show me where i said that i condone the coverups of the Catholic church? No, you can't because i don't. It's a travesty. I have friends who have left the church because of that and i don't blame them a bit. Criticize me for what i say, not the things you assume i believe in.
7:09 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
You're not kidding. For sheer lunacy, this is the thread that keeps on giving.
5:11 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Dan may have taken over the mantel of the most offensive and bigoted poster on Patch. Do I hear a second for his nomination?
5:17 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
It's a close second with Deerfield Resident, don't forget about that peach.
5:55 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I nominate Sully & RB as the most offensive posters on this rag! OK now we can move on.
Just Sayin
6:01 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Geez RB...and here I was trying to forget about that peach.
Just Sayin
8:44 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Oh yeah...well I nominate Sully and RB the two more intelligent posters on this rag. Go bite yourself.
Dan Arenov
9:00 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Oh. you mean because i actually apologized for something and that i actually have the ability to say i didn't know something and may be wrong about something?
Sully, you are the last person who should be talking about being offensive.
Frank Lopez
5:20 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
There are so many, you would need a top 10 list. Yet, who has time to even worry about that. I think everyone should just move on from this topic.
5:30 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Then we can find out what is in it! How many fees and penalties or taxes I guess they call them.
6:05 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Remember - "We will not raise taxes on the middle class", or "Obamacare will not fund abortions", or "We need to pass this stimulus bill right away so unemployment can dip to 5%". or "Passing Obamacare will save your family over $2,000 each year". Now it's "We don't want your guns" and "We don't have a spending problem." Santa Claus brings presents and lies to DC.
6:23 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I didn't see anything about Guns, Obamacare or Taxes in this bill
Just Sayin
8:39 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Millie...McClown sees guns, Obamacare and taxes in everything...including the stars in the night sky.
1:52 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Allowing same-sex couples to wed under the law would not devalue traditional marriage. It would affirm the bedrock values that underlie and sustain such unions.
Marriage promotes stable families, safeguards the interests of children and rewards committed relationships.
Recognizing same-sex marriages demonstrates respect for personal freedoms and keeps government out of the intimate affairs of citizens. More people in same-sex relationships are adopting or giving birth to children; this provides the security of a legal commitment for those children. It's the fair thing to do. -- Chicago Tribune 2/18/13
Vicky Kujawa
5:20 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
"I now pronounce you man and wife."........from Wikipedia: A wife is a female lifetime partner in a continuing marital relationship. So in a 'gay marriage' which dude gets to be the female? Do they flip a coin? With this sh* thole of a state in the worst financial and moral decadence that it's ever been in, this is what our 'leaders' are most concerned with? No wonder people are moving away in droves!
5:34 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Don't forget to shut the door when you leave. This kind of ignorance is a detriment to our society.
Vicky Kujawa
5:22 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Look at the bright side: at least illegals will have a bigger pool of people that they can marry for a green card.
7:06 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Oh, now Vicki chimes in again. The Trifecta of ignorance is complete. She also wants 14 year old rape victims charged with murder if they have an abortion.
7:14 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
There you go again with the abortion issue. Is there a wave of pregnant rape victims out there? Obscure at best, but enough for liberals to use to justify murder.
Just Sayin
7:37 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Wow... I am surprised McClown did not include in his comment that Obama is personally responsible for all women being raped since the beginning of time. He must be giving the custom 'Obama' key on his keyboard a break. Or...the next few hours will tell if the key has been broken from over use.
7:44 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Actually when Obama was a senator he sponsored a bill that mandated doctors to turn their back on a botched abortion, a new born baby gasping for life. He probably should a strangle clause into the bill, as this would be more humane, you know, like putting a struggling bug out of it's misery.
7:57 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
@McCloud Illinois or US Senate. did you check your facts? This the Huckabee story?
8:15 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
@McCloud those were QUESTIONS DO YOU KNOW THATS WHAT A ? MEANS
Dan Arenov
9:01 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
RB, you are truly offensive. Can you at least try to be civil with people you disagree with?
Just Sayin
9:18 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Dan Arenov...If that's your real name. You call me a whack job and you turn around and ask others to be " civil with people you disagree with". Then you have the audacity to call RB and myself hypocritical ? LOL. Like I suggested up north...you need to take a good long G damn look in the mirror bud.
Just Sayin
7:26 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
RB..."Oh, now Vicki chimes in again. The Trifecta of ignorance is complete". LOL...
truer words were never typed.
8:05 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Homosexuals have possessed marriage rights for years in Illinois. What? You're kidding! Don't believe me? Couldn't a gay guy marry a lesbian woman?
Claudia Lenart
10:16 am on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
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Mount Revelstoke National Park
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Journey from enchanting hot springs to rugged mountain wilderness. With stops to soak in luxurious, mineral-rich pools, this route is easy to travel and offers everything from railway history to outdoor adventure.
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Begin your tour in Cranbrook, which has transformed from a thriving railway town to become the largest city in the Kootenay Rockies. Fuelled by the railway, the city's 19th century heritage homes reject the opulence of the city's early years. Visit the Canadian Museum of Rail Travel's award-winning collection of restored railcars and locomotives, as well as the spectacular 1906 Royal Alexandra Hall. Drive north along Highway 95A to Kimberley.
Kimberley is a Bavarian-themed community with a four-season alpine resort. This former mining town is now home to Canada's largest free-standing cuckoo clock. In summer, listen to the sound of polka on the Platzl (the city's downtown pedestrian centre). Head north on Highway 93/95 to Fairmont Hot Springs.
Just south of Fairmont Hot Springs, in Whiteswan Lake Provincial Park, are the natural Lussier hot springs. These hot mineral pools sit beside the Lussier River and are accessible via a forest service road. Fairmont's year-round, crystal clear hot springs pools beckon travellers into their steamy, mineral-rich waters. The resort also offers golfing, skiing, hiking, biking, horseback riding and spa services. Continue north to Invermere and Windemere Lake.
Invermere and Windermere Lake are great summer destinations. In downtown Invermere, browse through charming shops and visit the Pynelogs Cultural Centre, which hosts theatrical productions, concerts and workshops year-round. Nearby, Panorama Mountain Village is a four-season resort that offers many outdoor pursuits, including hiking, biking, rafting, golfing, skiing, heli-skiing, snowmobiling and more. Continue north to enjoy more of the region's hot springs.
Radium Hot Springs, located in Kootenay National Park, is one of the largest hot spring mineral pools in Canada. Soak away your tensions while gazing up at the red cliffs of Sinclair Canyon. Keep watch for bighorn sheep, which have long been local residents of the community. Continue north on Highway 95 to Golden.
Golden is set on the banks of the Columbia River – North America's largest wetland. The town is well known for its backcountry lodges and being a centre of outdoor adventure. After exploring the town (and the wilderness that surrounds it), take Highway 1 east to Rogers Pass.
Rogers Pass, between Golden and Revelstoke, is one of BC's great mountain crossings. Hiking, picnicking, wildlife viewing and a visit to the Rogers Pass Visitor Centre may be your summer highlight. Set in the Columbia Mountains between Glacier and Mount Revelstoke national parks is Canyon Hot Springs, which has two natural mineral hot pools – great for relieving the aches of travelling. Continue east to Revelstoke.
During the 19th century mining boom, Columbia River sternwheelers connected the rugged town of Revelstoke to the railway. Today, walk through the alpine city to see some 60 restored period buildings and the fascinating Revelstoke Railway Museum. Nearby, drive to alpine meadows in Mount Revelstoke National Park or stroll past hundreds of hand-crafted folk art figurines on the Enchanted Forest's Wild Land Interpretive Walk. Also nearby is unique ghost town of 3 Valley Gap and the waterfalls at Crazy Creek Waterfalls. Drive south on Highway 23 to Halcyon and Naksup hot springs.
Halcyon resort features four mineral-rich pools and plenty of adventure opportunities. In the village of Nakusp, the local museum highlights the town's pioneer history. For a peaceful retreat, stroll along the waterfront Japanese gardens, and then enjoy a dip in the soothing hot springs. After soaking in the springs, hop back in the car for the journey south to New Denver.
New Denver and Silverton sit on the eastern shore of Slocan Lake where you'll find museums, artisan studios and plenty of outdoor activity options. In New Denver, visit the Nikkei Internment Memorial Centre, a museum that pays tribute to the internment of Japanese Canadians during World War II. Hike or bike along an abandoned rail line as part of the Galena Trail. Start this easy 13-km/8-mi trail from Three Forks or the lakeshore at Rosebery. And visit Sandon, a historic gold rush ghost town that once was once known as the "Monte Carlo of the North." Follow Hwy 31A to Kaslo.
Kaslo's natural harbour once bustled with activity as ore-barges, rowboats, steamships and sternwheelers jostled for a place alongside the busy wharf. Tour the SS Moyie, the oldest surviving sternwheeler in the world. Launched in 1898, the sternwheeler is one of the most significant preserved steam passenger vessels in North America. A must see! Continue south towards Balfour.
Kaslo's natural harbour once bustled with activity as ore-barges, rowboats, steamships and sternwheelers jostled for a place alongside the busy wharf. Tour the SS Moyie, the oldest surviving sternwheeler in the world. Launched in 1898, the sternwheeler is one of the most significant preserved steam passenger vessels in North America. A must see!
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Continue south along Highway 31 to Ainsworth Hot Springs to sink into soothing mineral waters. This unique hot springs has a horseshoe shaped cave, which is lined with stalagmites and stalactites. Explore the cave or relax in the main pool that overlooks picturesque Kootenay Lake. Take the free Kootenay Lake ferry across to Crawford Bay (a lively artists' community) and then travel on Highway 3A to Creston.
Creston is well known for its orchards and brewery, which produces Kokanee beer. Plan a visit to the Creston Valley Wildlife Management Area – a refuge for more than 250 bird species. Take the boardwalk trail to a three-story viewing tower or enjoy the nature programs at the Interpretive Centre before returning to the start point of Cranbrook.
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Elma McLamb, 101
CORAL SPRINGS, Fla. — Mrs. Elma Strickland McLamb,101, formerly of 5636 N. Salemburg Hwy., Roseboro, died Wednesday, Oct. 31, 2012 at the Sunshine Assisted Living Home in Coral Springs, Florida.
Funeral services will be held Monday, Nov. 5, at 2 p.m. at the Piney Green Baptist Church with the Rev. Donald Keith Carter officiating. Burial will follow in the Piney Green Baptist Church Cemetery.
Born in 1911 in Sampson County, Mrs. McLamb was the daughter of the late John Robert and Lola Strickland. She was the owner & operator of McLamb Country Grocery for over 50 years. She was a member of Piney Green Baptist Church where she served as church organist for 56 years. She was the widow of David Calls McLamb.
She is survived by her daughter, Marlene Parks of Coral Springs, Florida, three grandchildren, Karen McLamb, Lisa King and Debbie Parks and two great-grandchildren, Jessica and Adam King.
She was preceded in death by a son, Jeffrey.
The family will receive friends one hour prior to the service at the church.
In lieu of flowers memorials may be made to the Elma McLamb Memorial Fund, c/o Piney Green Baptist Church, 6040 High House Road, Salemburg, NC 28385.
Online condolences at www.royalhallfuneralhome.com.
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2. | script kiddie | ||
A True Fool. One to be looked down upon. They tend to use leet speak, but dont realize its true significance. They are usually 10-14 year old kids (or so) who think they are "1337 |-|4x0r5", but are really just trying to be cool.
They call themselves hackers (which is not the same as a cracker, a hacker is a programmer, a cracker is a person who breaks into computers), while they are neither hackers or crackers. They use other peoples programs to do their simple "hacking", and usually end up getting caught. Hackers are really cool people. Script kiddies are morons. Hacker: I just wrote my 30th module for the Linux kernel! Linus Torvalds emails me every day, he loves my code!
Cracker: I just broke into the CIA's webpage and replaced all occurances of the president's name with "Mr. Dumbass", It's funny as hell! Script Kiddie: j0, ph00! I ju57 stolezored me a b0rkified wind0ze 3.1 b0xor. It r0x0rz my s0x0rz. I wundr if it g0tz Linux on it? Whutz Linux anywayz? |
1. | script kiddie | ||
n. (Hacker Lingo) One who relies on premade exploit programs and files ("scripts") to conduct his hacking, and refuses to bother to learn how they work. The script kiddie flies in the face of all that the hacker subculture stands for - the pursuit of knowledge, respect for skills, and motivation to self-teach are just three of the hacker ideals that the script kiddie ignores. While anyone can be a script kiddie, generally they are teenagers who want the power of the hacker without the discipline or training involved. Obviously anyone who follows this route aspires to be a blackhat, but most refuse to even dignify them with this term; "blackhat" generally implies having skills of your own.
3. | script kiddie | ||
An idiot 12 year old kid with no social life that runs around in a Jedi outfit and uses some prewritten programs to h4xx0r his school, gets caught printing shit on their network, and is rudely awakened to the fact that this is what he is and he is not under any circumstance a real hacker/cracker at all and should die a horrible flaming death. If you want to meet some script kiddies go to www.illegalworld.com and look in their forum, the whole place is full of em. If your a script kiddie and want to see what real hackers do www.phrack.org is a good place to start. Wmuhahahahaha now I have all A's in Engrish! WTF? THEY CATCHED MEE?!>!>!:"L"LJ!@:L?????? -dies a horrible flaming death-
4. | script kiddie | ||
Someone who wants to be a hacker (or thinks they are) but lacks any serious technical expertise. Nah, he's not a hacker. Just a lonely script kiddie.
5. | script kiddie | ||
A computer user usually in their teens that uses pre-made programs for cracking, phreaking and most other forms of electronic havoc. They have little to no hacking skills and usually use their progz for bad purposes. God damn script kiddies. They give hackers a bad name.
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Some spotty n00b who uses crap like Sub7 and thinks he's a legend.
These people need a good slap, and give professional crackers and programmers a bad name. Despite what you may hear, good crackers don't often get caught. The people that get caught are dipshit n00bs who don't know enough about what they are doing to cover their tracks. These people make me sick. "I PWNED j00"
"shut up before i shut you up, you iliterate moron" |
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Someone who desperately aspires to be considered a hacker, meanwhile possessing none of the required skills. Living in denial, these individuals will trick themselves as well as others into believing they are hackers. This type of person will use ready-coded exploits to gain unauthorized access to their target host. Script kiddies will often lie, brag, or over emphasize about their computer abilities. A common technique used by kiddies in an attempt to gain acceptance in the hacker culture is to steal source code and claim it as their own.
In general, the average script kiddie is aged 12-?? as anyone with a computer and the desire to become a hacker is capable of becoming one (script kiddie that is). While there are literally hundreds of thousands of script kiddies and wannabes out there, keep in mind that there are also a good chunk of true hackers as well, who are able to spot and exploit flaws in other people's code, write their own code, etc.. basically anyone who claims to be a hacker, isn't one. Unless of course they are asked by someone for their opinion based on their particular skill-set. Script kiddies will use and abuse technology to get their name or childish online aliases known. ie. defacing websites through the use of shells, using publicly available exploits to compromise security, download trojans and/or viruses and "pwn" some victims, launch DDoS (distributed denial-of-service) attacks, etc.. script kiddies are generally rejected by society and poss... |


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Denver Rallies Past UNC In NCAA QF
No. 2 Carolina Meets No. 7 UCLA Sunday
No. 2 Heels Fall To Virginia In Extras
Men Golfers 9th At NCAA Tempe Regional
Tar Heels Advance Past UVa, 13-9
No. 2 Carolina Storms Into NCAA Quarters
UNC Grabs ACC Regular Season Title
Men Golfers 7th At NCAA Tempe Regional