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11 Things Hiring Managers Won't Tell You
- Posted on Apr 17, 2012
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Good advice–never thought about removing my wedding band. I disagree with the point about not applying online. Many, many places do not give you the option. It's fine if you know someone there and forward your information–but you still need to jump through the hoops. This has been my experience anyway.
- mizaru169
That's true – for almost every job I've tried for it's been "Sorry, you'll have to apply online." Even e-mailing individuals inside the company yields the same results!
- Sheila
I agree. I always thought this just applied to big companies, but recently the small company I work for had a position open and a coworker had a friend that wanted to apply and was told to go through the placement agency.
I actually put on a fake wedding ring when I go on interviews (just a band, not a flashy engagement ring because I do agree with the point above). I look (and am) young. And I'm interviewing for jobs that require a few more years of experience than I have. It makes me seem older and more responsible and not like some 20-something-year-old that's going to roll into work late still hungover from the night before.
- Sheila
I did the same thing. Apparently it was believable because one of my friends and my part time job at the time thought I had gotten engaged and didn't tell her. LOL
- edie212
The bit about kids and wedding bands is incredibly depressing. I give 10-1 odds that they don't check the ring fingers of male candidates. Maybe instead of just advocating playing along (which you have to to get the job) LV can promote how to push for change to horribly sexist hiring cultures?
- Sheila
I'd bet your right. Plus a lot of men don't wear rings. Although my dad did tell me once that they had a position open in his department and the interviewers did look for wedding rings. Although for completely different reasons.
- Ms. L
I agree. This is actually the third time I've seen this article – other sites have posted their interpretation of the HR survey, too. But I've seen proposed solutions exactly zero times. I fear that sexism will never end if we're continually encouraged to fight the status quo. As it is, I don't wear a wedding band and chose to keep my maiden name, all for my "career," which I may never return to anyway if the economy keeps up like this.
- Ms. L
"Fight" should be "keep." No more internet for me today!
- Stephanie
I wouldn't want to work for a company that tries to dupe me into sharing information about my kids, doesn't want to hire me because I might start a family, and creates a false profile to friend me on Facebook. Shame on LearnVest for encouraging women to succumb to these practices rather than encouraging women and hiring managers to change this dishonest and discriminatory practices rather than succumb to them!
- Shill Straesser
Exactly. Why would I want to work for a company that won't support my having my career and family life? If you ask me, those companies are missing out on mature, diligent workers. My experience with working mothers is that they are highly productive. They get into work, stick to the business of working and get out. No wasting time on company time. I have heard of highering managers who prefer parents because of this fact.
- andrew
That's where both of you are wrong, IT doesn't matter how smart or diligent you are and only cares about how much time will you spend at work. More time at office = more productivity. If you're so preoccupied with family after you wasted the company's money on maternity leave then go look for another job because employees are desperate now, not the companies.
- CarrieSloan
Dear Stephanie and Edie,
Thanks for your comments. I just want to reassure you that LearnVest does not in any way condone these hiring (or not hiring) practices. We were as surprised to hear about them as you are. And certainly most companies would not purport to to support these practices either, which is why we felt the need to point out that they're happening.We're hoping that in bringing them to light, we'll make it less easy for companies to get away with it. Please know, our mission at LearnVest is to empower women in every way, and especially when it comes to their finances, which is why we encourage you to fight trends like pay disparity between men and women and negotiate the salary you deserve.
It's also why we chose to publish this story on Equal Pay Day—we believe firmly in equality on all fronts in the workplace.
- Dominico32
"Thanks for your comments"? liar
- Vanessa241
While I agree that we should be challenging these sexist hiring practices, you'd be naive to think this isn't happening.
Thank you LearnVest for uncovering these nasty secrets!
- Ms. L
What saddens me most is when I see younger women rush to deny/defend sexism by announcing, "It's never happened to me!" They don't understand that they don't need to experience a phenomenon for it to be true, or even widespread. In many cases, these women are very, very green in their field, and have not yet accrued enough years in the workforce, or gotten to a level on the ladder where the discrimination would be evident. When I was 25, I thought sexism was "over," too. Boy, did I have a lot of learning to do…
It's no wonder that a large majority of applicants loathe the hiring process when there are articles like this that tell you what hiring managers really think. As a corporate recruiter, I cringed after reading every slide. The "hiring managers" interviewed for this article are incredibly unprofessional, knowingly discriminate candidates (which, last time I checked is still illegal), give recruiting a bad name and do their respective companies a major disservice by practicing a very dangerous form of interviews.
I work for a large and well known company where I recruit for positions in the STEM fields. I recruit new grads up to PhD level candidates, and at no point have I nor would I, conduct interviews like this.For applicants that come into situations like this, just remember that you're also interviewing the company – do you really want to be part of a team that has practices like that in place?
@e877894d394f3aababfbda0d6f17eedc:disqus Companies are required to track applicant data (otherwise we get in trouble with the Gov't!) and the fastest and most streamlined way to capture this information is by having applicants apply online — even if you already interviewed or forwarded your resume directly to the hiring team.
- pamorama
You've given me hope! Thank you for being human and understanding the idiosyncracies and qualifications of an applicant based on more valid criteria. And thank you, as well, for acknowledging that a good fit is mutual. Being false or modifying your presentation to force a fit is not beneficial to any parties.
- Happy Camper
Gosh, that's all pretty depressing! However, just the existence of sites like LearnVest has been giving me some vicarious confidence lately. Last month I pursued a job I'd found on LinkedIn. I suspected I was somewhat less experienced than the ideal candidate for the position, so I went the route of "just get them to like you and let them know you're motivated and smart." It worked. I got an interview and they offered me the position.
Then salary negotiations began. I probably made an error by disclosing my recent salaries. However, for the first time ever, I dug my heels in and tried to actually negotiate for myself!
The first offer was $5,000 higher than my highest recent salary. The old me would've said, "okay, great" and then felt undervalued. This time, I just said "no, it's too low." Totally empowering moment, ladies. You gotta try it!
They immediately upped it by another $10,000. I said I appreciated the increase but that it frankly wasn't enough to offset a just-average benefits package. This went on for a couple of phone calls and by the end of that day I accepted an offer over $25,000 higher than my last job. Maybe it could have gone even higher if I hadn't disclosed my recent earnings, but it still felt terrific to negotiate for myself successfully.
Thanks, LearnVest, for being part of giving me the wherewithal to pull it off!
- Brwanous
I find it difficult to embrace the concept of taking of my wedding band before an interview to increase my chances of success. I don't feel like I should hide who I am, or playing into the unfair system either. Perhaps that increases my chances of landing the job, but that sounds like an awful place to work, if that is how they treat their prospective employees.
Anyway, thanks for the great article – very enlightening as always!!
- Heather
Wow. This article is depressing. Especially as someone who was laid off last October. I have been seriously looking since early January. I have been volunteering my time with two separate organizations. This article made me want to do something other than find another job with corporate America. In fact, I would not want to work for any organization these "hiring managers" work for. Insidious at best!
- pamorama
Heather, I have the same response. Laws were put in place to protect us from this sort of hiring discrimination, and corporate America has found ways to "trick" people into divulging information, including friend requesting your friends to find out information about you–this is insane.
Two and a half years ago I made a major move to a Southern CA exurb. For a few months I got my home in order and volunteered. Then I started my own freelance business which has limped along. I am actively looking for part-time work to supplement my business income, and it pains me to hear things like "no married folk" or "ageism." Assuming someone with a wedding ring on won't be serious about a full or part-time job is just wrong. Life circumstances are many and vast, and hiring managers who make assumptions like this lack creativity and might certainly be less than inspiring to the people they DO hire. BTW, as someone who formerly screened and hired people, I found that young, unmarried hires are far more likely to move around restlessly as they look for the next best thing. They are often less grounded.
But let's be honest, a good hiring manager should come to a conclusion on best fit based on varied and job-specific criteria, not stereotypes and bogus notions.- andrew
laws mean nothing if a hiring manager speaks in a nice and approachable tone but then shreds your resume after you leave. The only way to figure out if the manager actually fired you based upon discrimination is to find out what they think of you at that moment they closed the book on your paper. Not all hiring managers are less insiring but some perfer personalities more so than others so its time to suck it up and please them or else you mind as well open your own small business.
- CarrieSloan
Heather, it sounds like you're doing everything right to find a new job (impressive that you're volunteering in two places!). Just wanted to wish you luck. Hope your perfect new job is right around the corner. And, if you haven't taken it yet, I highly recommend our Build Your Career bootcamp, too!
- Collinsm227
Heather, I'm in the exact boat you are. My contract job ended in November & I've been job searching & volunteering since January. I agree that this article really gets my spirits down, knowing that I coul be a VERY valuable asset at a company if I wasn't discriminated before I even got an interview. However, I'll take this information & use it to the best I can & I guess I'll be knocking on some doors with my resume in hand. Keep it up girl, we will land the right job at the right time!
- Sheila
I have to disagree with several of these. Although there are some good points in this article, some of them aren't accurate. I've actually read several articles that employers tend to prefer married candidates because they view them as more stable. Also, many times companies don't want you contacting their employees directly about positions. Most prefer that you go through their hoops to complete the application process. I always viewed it as a test to see if you could follow directions. For example, anyone ever tried applying with the government?
- http://profiles.google.com/brandy.n.oliver Brandy Oliver
I work for the government, and in my experience, the majority of LearnVest career articles just don't apply to my type of career. General stories about being a better communicator and those sorts of topics sometimes relate in a generic way. However, I've just accepted that I'm not LearnVest's targeted audience.
I'm a HR Director for a prominent Marketing firm and this article even made me depressed! While the majority of things listed are NOT tactics that I would ever use or even consider, there is truth to a lot of it. 1) Resumes. Make it as straight-forward and aesthetically pleasing as possible (i.e. clean lines, just a touch of color, and most aligned qualities for the position made to be the most prominent on the page). 2) Social Media: Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, whatever it may be. . .if you put it on the internet, we can find it. It's not my favorite activity to stalk potential candidates but even if I do not, you better believe that the hiring manager, potential team members and even the executives will "research" you. Use your highest discretion when posting anything online!! 3) We are required to bring in great talent in/at budget (and pressured often for under budget). It's unfair and makes most of us feel crummy. But it's part of the job. Salary negotiation is a HIGHLY tricky game. Go too high and you take yourself out of the game. Go too low and you will be under paid. My guideline is to remain within $5k – $10k of what you are willing to accept. Period.
I hope this helps! I have two amazing parents who have been looking for work for over 2 years. It is heart-breaking to hear how they are treated and defeated they can feel especially since I'm on the other side. But to all those out there, KEEP YOUR CHIN UP! And the last slide is true also. Many hiring managers do not know what they are doing. So, although this is tough to do time and time again, try not to take it personally.
I wish you ALL much luck!
- http://hotfemmeinthecity.wordpress.com/ natasiarose
Once I was on a job interview and the interviewer expressed concern that I wouldn't have time to do the job because I spend so much time on my charity work. I was like…really? Are you going to be upset over the charity work that I do in my free time? I would never want to work for that company. It's sad that this goes on.
- andrew
That guy was being reasonable. If you do charity work instead of overtime when a project is past due or something big happens then your not a "loyal" employee then..
- Liz
Thank you for this very enlightening article! As someone who is currently looking for a job, it is very helpful to know how to stand out in the right way.
- Unruhka
I thank God I work for a company that is contractually obligated to pay men and women the same and has since 1948. I would never work for a dishonest company. Why would you want to lie about who you are to work for a company that lies to you or withholds pertinant information? It's a lose/lose situation.
- pianogal
I agree, but how do you find out ahead of time which companies do this? I doubt they publish that anywhere. (I mean this as a serious question. I'd really like to know.)
- Milaservi825
I think the practices mentioned by hiring managers are enraging and disgusting! They are aware of the idiocy because the article mentioned some managers did not want to be named! They decided to hide!
I imagined them to be private college snobs who probably have no idea about hard-work and have an sensitivity to suffering. Or losers who were bullied all their life and decided to find pleasure choosing and rejecting people in HR.
It has to because its 80% of job hunters get a job through a contact. It's endless people-pleaseing-ass-kissing game.
If your not trying trying to woo the recruiter, your trying to woo your contacts. But really maybe straining that contact because all really want is a job.
I think those managers should loose their jobs, be investigated, ostracized and the company should fined several million $$$$$$$ for those practices.
By discriminating against these candidates. You are keep welfare, unemployment and at an all time high. They make it difficult for parents to put food on the table. These people make it difficult for people to try to meet basic human needs the right way.
I agree with some of these commenters these people are absolute vultures! I am seriously considering becoming self-employed. I don't want anyone to be in control of my ability to provide for my basic needs or that of my family.
- guest
I put myself through private college, my dad was a single father, coal miner. Try again with your stereotype of private college. I cannot think of any people at my college who would have been considered a snob (even those with rich parents who paid for everything).
- Deedit
You come across here as angry and immature. I bet if you worked on your people skills you'd find more satisfaction in your career, and life in general.
- Milaservi825
Get a life, bud. Your obvious so much more mature than me because your unbelievable talent to judge some one's "people skills" from a comment on internet. I'm actually already employed. I've actually heard first-hand in-person accounts from a hiring manager of silly hiring practices.
- Ms. L
We have every right to be angry when we've spent decades of our life working toward careers, only to have everything snatched from us because so many Americans decided they didn't donate ENOUGH of their income to the crony capitalist billionaires during the Reagan years, and rushed to vote twice in a row in the 2000s to transfer more.
I laugh in my head at all the Americans who shriek at me to get an attitude adjustment and take personal responsibility. Those very people, who believed that members of the corporo-theocratic elite should not merely earn their wealth, but steal it from me by paying lower taxes and hiding their wealth in offshore accounts, are the ones who need an adjustment – and it is those people who are to blame for the state of the country.
Disadvantaged people – women, blacks, the poor, the mentally ill, and the unemployed – are always told to be quiet and work on their attitudes. That's because they call the fraud like they see it, and many Americans, who've deluded themselves into happiness at the status quo, don't like what we have to say.
- Kimupchurch2005
I am an interview coach and teach a interview workshop. My workshop is focused on encouraging applicants about the process and letting them know that there is a perfect job for them. I have participated in 100′s of interviews as an HR professional and I would agree the process is not easy especially in this economy but getting a job is possible. The one thing that I always tell people is that many times your not getting the interview has nothing to do with you but you can prepare and present your best foot forward so that when your job does become available you are ready for the interview. I am a woman of faith and that makes a difference as well. So my advise to applicants, network and let everyone you know that you are looking for a job. Be willing to accept the not "perfect" job in your pursuit of the perfect job and don't give up.
- Irlandesa2011
This is how I want to react to everything hiring managers say:
http://whatshouldwecalltheman.tumblr.com/post/21566779227/when-my-boss-tells-me-this-is-a-great-developmental - ravencomeslaughing
So, you spoke to hiring managers that admitting to using illegal hiring practices to discriminate? And you didn't turn them in… Nice. Nice way to avoid responsibility in order to write an article.
- Deedit
I'm curious, in your fantasyland, when a blogger picks up the phone and calls the Mounties and says, "I just interviewed someone for my blog and they said they discriminate against applicants," do the Mounties say, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, drop everything, let's get down to that office and make some arrests!" And then does the judge later say, "Well, based on the evidence of this blogger saying they were told about a discriminatory practice, we're going to put you in jail and step in there and make sure nobody else does this sort of thing either. We'll be watching you!" Because that would be pretty fantastic. In the real world, such evidence is called "hearsay," and the authorities have, much, much better things to do than entertain such trifling matters. The person to bring a complaint is, of course, the person who has been discriminated against. At that point, without substantial evidence there is no case and it will go nowhere, but nobody would even give the time of day to a blogger who tattled on an interviewee for admitting to this sort of thing. It's not even evidence. Which is just a long-winded way of pointing out that you're a little bit silly for trying to call out this blogger for doing his or her job.
- http://twitter.com/Maulmoviemoos Maul
The reason for #3, is #2. Women get pregnant, that is why they earn less for the same job. Its not sexist, its investment. Men are lower risk investments.
- pamorama
"Women get pregnant" — Where does one even GO with a statement like this. Not ALL women can or choose to get pregnant. Period, end of discussion. Pregnancy is not CLOSE to being the only reason people leave jobs and I've seen a good number of women who had babies return to their jobs. Suggesting that [otential preganancy is the one and determinant to a "lower risk investment" is short-sighted and quite simply flawed logic. What qualities make one candidate better than another in the same job and therefore justify higher pay? How about excellent communication skills, or less stress and shouting? How about the individual intelligence and competence of a candidate. A lazy, unhappy, poor communicating, angry or ruthless man who stayed forever in the same job would be far more detrimental to a company than a happy, skilled, committed, inspiring woman who worked for a time and then left to have a child. Have some vision!
Your comment IS sexist, performing a job well has far less to do with a potential future pregancy than what an individual offers in performance today.
- Thecoyote23
Doesn't change that fact that women get pregnant. All because you or other women don't get pregnant doesn't matter.
- pianogal
Check out FMLA more carefully. Men have to be allowed up to 12 weeks for maternity leave, so the pregnancy rational for lower salaries is bogus. I also know several men who decided to be the one to stay home to take care of their kids, so, again, potential pregnancy is not a legitimate excuse for different wages based on gender.
- Flashdraco
more women stay home and zero men get pregnant. Its incredibly old-fashioned and sexist to say women are paid less b/c of having a baby and missing work. Men can miss up to 12wks too but don't often (jokes on us i guess, i would take every day i could).
Why its like this i dont know, My uncle lived in the jim crow south and i grew up in the 90′s in a place where being mixed race was so strange i was shunned from both groups… im sorry women are still not equally paid but i know a couple girl welders that can outwork me in everything lol.
- pamorama
Doesn't change the fact that women getting pregnant a) are protected by law against job discrimination, and most can work through their pregnancies, and b) there are various aspects of being that impact work performance more than this. And why would you make an assumption about whether I personally can get pregnant from my comments? ASS-ume much?
- Guest
Ya I guess all women should just stay home because they may or may not have the ability to produce children and men NEVER have any medical conditions that could keep them out of the office. Have fun with all the lawsuits d-bag.
- deadofnight
Reverting to opposite side of the argument spectrum doesn't really prove any point. Well, it did show you were bothered by his statement. I think he was referring to the general "unfairness" all people may encounter at some time when job hunting. A factor is still a factor no matter how small or large.
- Ms. L
It does matter. I'm not pouting because I didn't get to attain my childhood dream of being a cowboy or a rock star or an astronaut. I'm angry because I put nearly two decades of work into obtaining and working my way up in what I was told was a "good" career in a STEM field, and I'm now at an age where doors are being closed on me in perpetuity because everyone assumes I'm not committed to work. I'm being denied a chance to provide for myself and my husband, save for retirement, and if I'm out of work much longer, provide for basic necessities. It IS a big deal.
- bonniesituation
Infertile women really adore being discriminated against because "they'll just get pregnant." And as soon as you're old enough to look like you're childfree by choice, the age discrimination starts.
- bonniesituation
Obviously you don't have to hire a permanent employee to cover a temporary FMLA leave.
- bonniesituation
WRT Social – This is a dirty, dirty practice on the part of hiring managers but I have little sympathy for anyone thoughtless enough to friend a person they don't know while they're job hunting.
- http://kenny.lindberg.myopenid.com/ Kenny
I think I'll wear a picture t-shirt of my kids and no pants to my next interview. If they want people so dumb they don't value their time enough … they deserve them.
- Gene
'"If you've been unemployed for a long stretch of time, it makes me wonder what's wrong with you," one hiring manager says.'
People like you are!
- KatyD
- You Idiots
Hmm… If you have not been employed for quite some time, it is a possibilty that something happened that they were not able to. Obviously they are still looking.
- Brodie Krause
This one is an easy fix: Leave your wedding ring at home. "Fat chance. Let's say after 9 years of marriage I could actually get the ring off. I have a permanent tan line and impression of my ring on my finger, so it would be even more obvious that a ring was there, which would make the hiring manager think, "uh oh, there was a ring but now there's not, this guy reeks of family drama and divorce distraction."
If a manager is petty enough to use jewelry to eliminate me from a job, he's actually doing me a favor.
- KatyD
I agree, the opposite can be true for males. When my significant other was coming out of grad school a few years ago, he attended a "how to get a job" seminar where the presenter advised the girls to remove their engagement/wedding rings for interviews (for reasons already noted) while the guys were encouraged to leave theirs on, and if they were single to buy a cheap, fake wedding ring to wear in interviews. Apparently while being married is a liability for women, it is an asset for men. Hiring managers view married men as more stable and settled, more willing to work hard and put in the extra hours because they have a wife and maybe kids to support, and less likely to show up late and hungover on Monday mornings after partying all weekend with the boys ('cause we all know the little wifey wouldn't allow that!)
In other words, the double standard is alive and well, folks. Wonder if these same petty, shallow, narrow-minded hiring managers are the same ones pissing and moaning all the time about how they can't find good help anymore….
- Paula
I recently read two interesting articles that discuss this very phenomenon. It's been known for a while that one of the largest wage gaps (after the gap between women and men of course) is between married men and single men. Some argue that married men have a boost in "productivity" for various reasons. This article discusses some of the latest social research. It's called "For Love or Money: Why Married Men Make More" and you can find it here: http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=443.
The same institute also wrote an interesting article on whether married women also experience a wage boost. The research found that marriage actually makes very little difference, but the decision to start a family is critical. It's called "Marriage, Motherhood and Money: How Do Women's Life Decisions Influence Their Wages" and you can read it here: http://www.stlouisfed.org/publications/re/articles/?id=417
While these articles don't provide any answer, they do a good job of investigating some of the complexity of these economic differences between demographics. It's hard to know whether married men do better because they *are* more responsible or because they are *perceived* as more responsible. And the same is true for women who start a family. While there are a lot of career-oriented mothers, it is true that having children typically results in a shift in priorities for women, which will effect their career. Unfortunately as it stands in our society, women will always have to make some kind of value choice between money/career and family – something that men just have to do. Unless you move to Sweden: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/world/europe/10iht-sweden.html?pagewanted=all.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/6RUBVUABGDQZZ75HKAMEOTA4FU Titanium Raven
I've seen favoritism of married men versus single men and married men & women over those who fall into the "never married" category – especially if the married (or divorced) ones have kids. Supervisors and managers were all married themselves, and they related more to their subordinates who, like them, had a spouse and kids. So they looked out more for those employees, encoraged them and helped them develop their careers, while leaving the others to rot. I've consistently seen the single people overlooked in terms of recognition, ignored for special projects, and kept in a holding pattern for promotions.
Although I have to admit some bias: I was one of these singles. I , too, had a less-experienced coworker get promoted before me. He was a not a team player and routinely went around the supervisor (married) to the manager (married) with his perceived problems. But he was married and had kids, and he did a lot better in his career than any of the singles (all of whom eventually left this company unless they got married) or the marrieds without kids. It was also a place that prided itself on being "like family". I guess so, provided you have a family or get one within a year or two of working there.
My guess is that you'll do better in your job, whatever it is, if your life looks like your supervisor's. Although for younger women and the entry level job thing stated in the article — yeah, I think the advice here is correct and being married with kids may be a disadvantage.
- The Inkling
These tactics aren't keeping men from good jobs, they're keeping women from good jobs. Women are bad investments statistically for companies. They go on maternity leave, they take sick days to watch their children, they are *expected* to have lower responsibility jobs vs their husbands, which means they're *expected* to be the ones who have to take more responsibility raising kids.
It's sterotyping, but it's also statistically supported. That's why there are legal requirements that jobs have to have evidance that they don't gender descrminate. The "life's not fair" coin has two sides. But if keeping them guessing makes them focus more on my resume, hell I'll do it.
- Ms. L
In the same vein, I am seeing way more women than men out of work in my field, and in all STEM fields generally in my area. The media has done its part to convince majority male bosses that middle-class men are the most discriminated-against beings in America, and those in charge of hiring have responded to these falsehoods accordingly. The recovery disproportionately favors men while women sit on the sidelines. In my case, there is no reason why me, an award-winning, highly competent and respected female manager in a STEM field should be out of work for eight months while my two male peers who've serially been fired from many jobs for fraud and blatant sexual harassment, respectively, have never gone a month without work.
Tellingly as well, every job I've applied to or interviewed for, with the exception of a position that was more marketing-oriented (and thus "stereotypically female") went to a man. The woman who got the marketing position was in her 40s and had a master's degree, while many of these men are about 5-6 years younger than me and have associate's degrees.
I know that because of my age, I am considered to be a pregnancy and thus flight risk, but my husband and I do not want kids, now or ever. Unfortunately, there is no tactful way to state this in a cover letter or introductory phone call. Further, as a woman in a STEM field, I am inundated constantly by mainstream media hinting at the idea that there aren't many like me in my line of work because women just don't have the aptitude for math or logical thinking. In the comments sections of these articles, men rush to agree. Nevermind that at 15, I and a couple of my classmates, all female, were doing calculus, and the boys in our grade struggled to make it past Algebra I/II.
I'm tired of my bank account and our future paying the price because so many people can't let go of their stereotypes. Maybe the government should just go ahead and make it official that women are not allowed to work going forward. In my small, backward town, that's the prevailing mindset, so why not just legitimize it and set us free?
- FamilyMan
#1 and 2 give me more reason to boast about my family. Yes I have kids and a wonderful wife, yet I am still occasionally willing to work long hours when needed. If the job requires long hours as the norm, or is not suitable for someone with kids, then it's not the job for me. Some may see these techniques as shallow, but I see them as saving me from wasting my time in a position I will hate.
- http://www.eduberry.com/eduberryher_overview/ College Management Solution
If given a document to read, is it important to write or type my own
notes? I could just as easily copy and paste the information into a new
note. Is there something in reading and note taking to help you learn? - Annie O
Does this really surprise anyone? anyone past 18, i would hope knows that life isn't fair. Companies discriminate all the time, the card you get in the mail isn't going to say, we didn't hire you're because white, or female. Unless it's a public, or political appointment it's pointless fighting, and more pointless trying to prove it. They can always find a reason not to hire you, and it doesn't have to be the real one.
- Melody G.
They also go by your name. If you're a person of color with a non white name, it doesn't matter if you were a manager at your last job, you won't get hired.
- Justaskamelie
False statement. According to Dodd-Frank Act 2010, firms are required to hire more "color" folks… at least in financial services. Ethnic name with good credentials can definitely help- A "color" folk
- Doesmurf
When it comes to applying online, there is a certain question and you should never give out that information unless they decide to hire you or need it for a background check. However if you skip that question, either the system does not allow you to move forward and if it does, your application will just be tossed out. Also, depending where you live if your caucasian–forget about getting hired.
- CurleyAdmin
You can forget about getting hired not because "you're" caucasian but because you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're".
- Ms. L
This makes me angry. I'm a married woman in my early 30s and a manager in a STEM field, which, I am told, is "in high demand," but my job search results show otherwise. I've been looking since the holidays last year, ever since I left my company of many years for a new position that seemed to be a step up in title and pay, but which went bust soon after I signed the contract because of the economy.
For the first two months of my search, it was slow going, but my husband, family, and friends all assured me it was just because of the time of year. "No one hires so close to the holidays," etc., they said. But even by spring, the job market did not pick up to anywhere near the level it'd need to in order for me to find work. I've been on just five interviews since losing my job, none of which resulted in offers. I get called in to interview, on average, about every 7 to 8 weeks. I've also had a number of talks with executives and hiring managers who seem to be super-eager to hire me at first, and then I never hear from them again. In a couple cases, they'll reach out months down the line to tell me the job has been put on indefinite hiatus.
For the past eight months, I've been beating myself up over leaving my secure management job to chase a title and a higher paycheck. I called myself a selfish brat, and felt foolish for doing what I thought was best for myself and my family. Then, just a few weeks ago, I learned that the company I left to take the ill-fated new job is also in trouble. All the other senior people (except for this one guy, who's the CEO's "pet") have been laid off, and there is no one older than 27 or salaried there. I would've been laid off regardless had I stuck around – it was just a matter of when.
- Jay
The art of writing is you can skew the information however you please. I believe you're doing that. The fact of the matter is you're writing about one conversation about one hiring manager. lame.
- Trevorrwhite
That bit about men being paid more is bogus, in fact, men are losing out on jobs because companies are hiring more women now than ever!
- workingmum
If I have to "hide" that I have children or that I am married to get a job or even worry that someone in the company will "friend a friend" on a social networking page to get information about me, then I wouldn't want to work for that company anyway. If they are that "sneaky" about the hiring practices, then I would have to question their work ethic in every aspect. Because I want that work/ life balance , I am OK with taking a lower salary than my male co-worker who lives and breathes his job. In my opinion, I have the much better pay off in the end.
- Isa
I went to an interview where the lady was very inappropriate, she asked me what I do on the weekends so I said movies, then she asked what kind of movies and that's how she made tell her that I had a kid. No wonder they did not call me back.
- MindFire
Wow this is sad…even more sad is how this article blatantly ignored the racial aspect of hiring. As a very highly educated African American male who has been looking for work for over 4 months, I now have more barriers to employment to add to my "black list." Very discouraging.
- Lilmslmt17
I completely disagree! I'm a the hiring manager for the business I work for and having children nor being married is ever anything I've looked at before moving forward in the hiring process!
What matters is if the applicant will be able to meet the schedule im presenting to them at the time and if they can agree to work holidays and what not. Any company playing games like that from the get go in the interview process should be ashamed and well honestly why would anyone want to work for a company like that any how? - Frus-RN
I am finding that it is much harder finding a Registered Nurse position now that we are in the age of "everyone must apply online". Meeting a Nurse Manager face-to-face was a huge advantage as they could talk to you, see your personality and how well you would work with others, among other things. Looking only at credentials is a poor way to find a good fit for a department.
- Kathyhg1
Let's say you are the only woman in a sales team of
8. You have also been on the team the longest. Management
says they need to pay a lot more to get people
in now. Is that fair? - trendcetera
I'm single and still I think it's quite sad that the suggestion is to leave your ring at home. Might there be a way to avoid perpetuating the cycle – any suggestions of how to address at the end of the inteview that you'd be committed to the job regardless of the possibility of contributing to creating the next generation??
- mdeborah827
Millions of us haven't been able to surpass the "unemployed need not apply" part. Nice try but you get no cigars. This is going to create a revolution in ways never imagined. After it finally hits many that the jobs, the previous lives aren't going to return and this is the new normal, they'll start to realize they don't have to economically support the people who worked diligently to undermine them.
We once threw tea into the harbor and refused to pay bus fare to companies that treated us like garbage. Many Americans will start to look at things differently once poverty really sets in and they realize there's plenty they can live without. - medicontheedge
In other words. leave your pride and standards at the door when you go for a job interview, as hiring managers are douche bags.
- Jack
All this made me realize is that it really isn't me that is causing the prolonged job search. It's the unfairness and judgmental attitudes of people with higher power.
- Juliana Gregory
This grosses me out. It's like a middle school game of pick me, pick me. Getting into a club that's looking for what's wrong with you out the gate. Corporate America grosses me out.


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Brilliant build! Absolute love it. I hope you remember to come back and post some shots of it in use during a game.
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AWESOME! A great design, with a fantastic and well executed scenic layout!
Where did you get your hinges and latches?
Great work btw!!!
Not plaster but resin. And I had the muy rapido type which can be de-molded in 15 minutes. It was mainly gluing the pieces and sawing and fitting the ones that went on the edges.
There were a million things and each took more or less time but casting the bits was pretty quickly done.
Is there a certain name for that type of hinge. I'm having trouble finding them
Scissor hinge or knife hinge is how I found them. Hard to find, I tell ya.
Two scratch built houses done.
I think they fit well with the atmosphere of the table.
A few details in case someone didn't notice...
Many more houses to build...
What are the brick house bases made from?
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Blue (sometimes pink) insulation foam. The traditional way.
Hmm. That looks better than they typical pen-type lines.
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They were carved with a modeling knife to get them deeper so painting them with PVA glue won't obscure them.
I have the town sign on my desk waiting to be painted...
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I use Vallejo paints but here is the recipe using Citadel paints:
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- Drybrush individual bricks with a brown/orange mix, imperial blue and random colors you feel like drybrushing. Metallic colors are a no-no.
- Carefully dry brush with Bleached Bone.
That's it. The key is to get enough randomness on the bricks.
Those bricks do look gorgeous. I think it's your bleached bone (or equivalent) dry brush at the end that really makes them pop. I'll definitely have to give that method a try and remember to use some cool colors like blue in there. The effect is really outstanding.
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Officer Franklin Mata is accused of acting as a lookout while his partner, Kenneth Moreno, allegedly raped a woman in her East Village apartment in December 2008.
While in court Mata testified he did not do anything against the law. He says he only helped the alleged victim get into her home after a cabbie called to say she couldn't get out of his taxi because she was so drunk.
The woman admitted in testimony that she was intoxicated and had blacked out repeatedly, but has no doubt she was raped.
During an at times tense cross-examination Mata told the court, "Nothing happened. And I never thought I would be sitting here."
Surveillance video from that night shows the officers re-entering the woman's apartment building three more times.
Mata says his partner was talking to the woman about kicking her drinking habit and told the court, "She and officer Moreno were building up a rapport. They were getting to know each other."
At one point during her questioning, Prosecutor Colleen Balbert yelled at Mata saying he and Moreno didn't go back to check on the woman, but that it was instead "...So he could go back to have sex with her."
"Absolutely not," Mata fired back.
Prosecutors also argue that Moreno made a fake 911 call, which had emergency operators send the officers back to the area of woman's building.
Mata admitted that it was Moreno's voice on the recording.
Defense lawyers maintain that both officers are innocent, and have not decided if Moreno will testify.
Both officers face up to 25 years in prison if convicted.
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Well according to Merriam-Webster, marketing is the act or process of selling or purchasing in a market. Ok. But what exactly does this mean? In real words, marketing is a way to promote or sell a business or a product. It's that simple! There are many ways that you can market a product. Let me give you a couple examples… Think back to those summer times when you would get your lemonade ready and set your table up outside. You would draw on the big poster board your mom bought you [...]
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2. Enhance Your Chocolate-Covered Pretzels
I've been a fan of chocolate-covered pretzels for many years. Not only do they taste great, but they are incredibly affordable to make. They're also an easy project that both the tween and teen crowds enjoy working on. To jazz them up and make them even more appropriate to the winter season, crush some candy canes up in a plate to coat the chocolate before cooling your individual pretzels. It will add another layer to the flavor pairing and look great on a platter at your next holiday party.
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4. Prepare a Peppermint Bark Hostess Gift
Rustic holiday treats make excellent hostess gifts, and peppermint bark is no exception. Crushed candy canes and chocolate are basically the only ingredients, making it an affordable decadence you can easily whip up on a weeknight.
5. Pair With Short Pine Branches to Fill a Holiday Container
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Enjoy some post snowshoeing fun with this recipe for candy cane hot cocoa mix. It's a great way to warm up after being in the cold for the afternoon and makes a toasty fire that much more enjoyable.
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8. Make Reindeer Tree Ornaments
These candy cane reindeer ornaments are more for the kids to enjoy, but they are cute enough to hang on the tree if you're going with a homemade theme overall. They also make fun tuck-ins for those holiday packages you're sending to the grandparents.
9. Craft Sleigh Decorations
Using two candy canes as your sleigh base and decorating with miniature chocolate packages results in sleigh ornaments you can use to enhance your gift baskets or as a stand-alone gift for the folks at the office.
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The holidays are also a great time to dust off all of your gingerbread recipes, including any you have in your repertoire for homemade gingerbread houses. Small candy canes can really come in handy as whimsical yard ornaments or miniature sleighs in the frosting-covered yard as suggested above.
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Stir in some spirits along with the crushed candy canes, and you've got a holiday milkshake suitable for grownups. They also make a great ice cream add-in.
12. Tie One on a Gift
If rocking your gift wrapping efforts is important to you, but you don't have a great deal of extra time to customize, consider attaching candy canes to your ribbon bows when you wrap up your presents. They'll add some seasonal flair without a great deal of additional cost.
13. Vegan Candy Cane Brownies
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It may not be the healthiest holiday treat out there, but fudge certainly is popular. This candy cane fudge from AllRecipes adds a popular seasonal flavor without a great deal of extra fuss. Because really, isn't fudge enough work to begin with?
15. Turn Popcorn Balls Into Tree Ornaments
These candy cane popcorn balls from Taste of Home are in essence a larger version of the Rice Krispie treat snowballs suggested at the beginning of the list. Obviously, they use popcorn instead of puffed rice, but the main difference is that since they are larger, they can be hung from the tree instead of from the edge of your tea cup or coffee mug.
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This woman needs to be in a drug program.
Solve her drug problem, and her need to steal goes away.
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she may or she may not be a drug addict...she may have been carrying the meth and a pipe to avoid doing jail time and is referred to a drug treatment program...only the proper tests can determine if she is an addict...if she needs to smoke...she will most likely need to smoke soon...my suggestion is to put her in jail and order her to be medically monitored if she in an addict...then put her in a more long term facility after a proper medical withdrawal so that she serves the time she has earned...when she is released, she might be released to a monitored facility to help her transition with some support...if she doesn't cooperate, throw her ass back in jail...
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Forced drug programs don't help people because they always go back. It's only when the person doing drugs figures it out by himself is when a drug program works.
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I'm surprised Mr. Cholo wants her to be institutionalized - doesn't that take away from the pool of his potential female companions (assuming he's heterosexual).
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my my my...look who curious! tee hee hee...
does anybody else suspect that William Tell is trying to feel out if we're a match? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...BUSTED!
tee hee hee...
Posted by do tell, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 2, 2013 at 8:25 am
cholo, looks like those remedial English classes have done wonders to improve your writing style. It's hard to determine whether your post above refutes or approves of William Tell's assertion and assumption.
No matter, your 'throw her ass back in jail' comment means you'll most likely be seeing her again.
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just because William Tell is sniffing out a guy to play with doesn't mean he's a bad person...
very sneaky post...using code to say William's Tail is available!
NOT INTERESTED...tee hee hee...
do tell = William Tell...BUSTED!
tee hee hee
Posted by Libertarian, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 2, 2013 at 2:22 pm
The charges against the woman are frivolous. If she had been carrying an ak-47 as guaranted by the 2nd amendment written by our founding fathers, there would have been a far different outcome.
I agree william tell has conspicuous fascination with maletail.
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The Flood of 2011 on the Lower Mississippi this spring has fascinated me to no end. I've been reading lots of news and blogs on the subject as well as digging into other websites of the US Army Corps of Engineers to learn more about this complicated, engineered river system.
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