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Tuesday, January 4, 2011
Rabbi Shlomo Miller endorses Rabbi Broyde
Recently, Rabbi Miller wrote a letter which condemned an article about women covering their hair, written by Rabbi Michael Broyde of Atlanta.
Now, in contrast to the topic of organ donation, where I admitted that I had not researched the topic thoroughly, the topic of women covering their hair is a topic that I have not researched at all. But what do I see? I see that Rabbi Broyde wrote a lengthy, detailed, article, with copious footnotes. And I see that Rabbi Miller responded with a single paragraph of assertions from authority and insults. And I ask myself: When two people have a disagreement, and one calmly presents a thorough explanation of his position, while the other refuses to do so and simply hurls out angry insults, who is usually correct? When you have good reasons to be confident in the correctness of your position, you don't refrain from sharing them. That's why, without knowing anything at all about this topic, I see Rabbi Miller's condemnation of Rabbi Broyde's article as an endorsement of its arguments.
(And to preempt those who point out that I did not respond to Isaac Betech's disproofs of evolution - first of all, he didn't offer any, and second of all, I spelled out at length my reasons for not debating him.)
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- January 4, 2011 at 10:54 AM
I don't see it as an endorsement. At most, it tells me that R. Miller disagrees with R. Broyde. R. Miller, it seems, is wont to defame his opponents without presenting rational arguments. That doesn't really tell me anything about his opponents. R. Miller would no doubt probably write in a similar vein against J for J. That doesn't amount to an endorsement of J for J.
- January 4, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Unless you assume (as I believe the Haredi world does) that the one line psak of a Gadol is worth more than any proof you can bring from any source (Tanach through responsa of Acharonim)!
This is part of a larger issue, that the common trend in the Haredi world is not to detail a psak, not to give reasons. The psak therefore cannot be argued upon, certainly not disproven, without the argument centering solely on the stature of the posek. - January 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Unfortunately, much of Rabbi Broyde's scholarship is wanting. This was demonstrated quite clearly by Rabbi Shulman, who wrote a footnoted rejoinder in a follow-up edition of Tradition.
There are times when a position need not be argued. We don't need to write long articles delineating why we believe in Moses and not JC. We simply say - "Get lost!" - January 4, 2011 at 2:51 PM
- Garnel Ironheart said...
L'havdil, let's say a patient goes and does some research on their medical condition on the internet. The patient then comes into my office with a whole sheaf of papers and makes a lovely presentation on how I should be treating his condition.
Unfortunately, since the patient doesn't actually have formal training in medicine but cherry picked great sounding sources and put them together to make his position sound comprehensive, he doesn't realize that from the start I've already tuned him out since I actually know about his condition and the treatment options better than him. And after a 10 minute talk, I can simply say "No, you need treatment 'X' because the literature and guidelines support its use as opposed to treatment 'Y' for which you've brought no credible support."
Perhaps in Rav Miller's eyes, he's the doctor and Rav Broyde is the patient. Yes, Rav Broyde wrote a very long, well-researched and footnoted entry but Rav Miller KNOWS he's wrong so why waste time refuting him point by point? - January 4, 2011 at 3:09 PM
"Endorsement" might be going a bit far. Even if R' Miller did not bring forth counter-arguments this does not mean that others are not able to.
- January 4, 2011 at 3:26 PM
- Natan Slifkin said...
To those who are wondering why their comments did not appear - please read the comments policy (http://www.rationalistjudaism.com/2010/09/comments-policy.html).
- January 4, 2011 at 3:26 PM
After all of your posts about the chareidi mentality,you ask why he didn't present an argument?
The logic goes that anything more than an insult might seem to legitimize his Broyde's view. - January 4, 2011 at 4:03 PM
- Rationalist Man said...
Food for thought: I think the Ramban refers to another Rishon's words as "foolish" in his peirush al hatorah. I can't recall where though. Somewhere in sefer Bereishis perhaps, and I think about the Ibn Ezra. Can't guarantee it though. Just something to consider.
- January 4, 2011 at 4:11 PM
HaDarda"i: ...R. Miller would no doubt probably write in a similar vein against J for J. That doesn't amount to an endorsement of J for J.
Ah, but there are already many anti-missionaries books that attempt to counter specific J for J claims. Broyde is making halachic arguments and Miller has not sought fit to analyze and challenge them, resorting instead to the ad hominen attack that Broyde is possessed by an "evil spirit". - January 4, 2011 at 4:22 PM
I'm afraid you forgot the US is an irony-free zone.
- January 4, 2011 at 4:34 PM
With regard to Torah (as opposed to medicine) there is an obligation al menas lelamed. I believe this is true in issuing any kind of p'sak as well. Rabbi Miller has issued an offhand dismissal of Rabbi Broyde, but I find Rabbi Broyde's essay compelling because I learned so much Torah from it. Precisely why I find the Iggros Moshe compelling as well.
- January 4, 2011 at 4:35 PM
- S. said...
It seems apparent to me that at least some people don't understand the dismissal. This is more than that. He compared R. Broyde to Ache"r, that is, Rabbi Aron Chorin.
To say that this is insulting doesn't even begin to approach it.
As regards to whether or not Jesus is the Messiah requires a Jewish response, Sefer Nitzachon, Chizzuk Emunah and many other books with more lasting value than a pamphlet written for hippies who might have gotten caught up with J4J are all part of the traditional book shelf. - January 4, 2011 at 5:10 PM
C'mon, the article doesn't even pretend to be an objective halachic analysis.
"Everything that I have written is meant only to justify the halakhic
practice of modest Jewish women."
See Biur HaGra YD 293:2 in reaction to Bach on Tur YD 293.
"And I ask myself: When two people have a disagreement, and one calmly presents a thorough explanation of his position, while the other refuses to do so and simply hurls out angry insults (sic!), who is usually correct?"
It is sad to see you using such arguments. C'mon. - January 4, 2011 at 6:30 PM
- Shadesof said...
"I see that Rabbi Broyde wrote a lengthy, detailed, article, with copious footnotes. And I see that Rabbi Miller responded with a single paragraph of assertions from authority and insults"
While I have great respect for R. Miller, I personally prefer the approach of R. Shulman who responded in Tradition point by point, as I am not comfortable by the sometimes seemingly harsh rabbinic language used in public statements elsewhere. At the end of R. Alfred Cohen's "Daat Torah" in Journal of Halacha and Contemporary Society (available online on JLaw.com), he argues that the community "could handle serious discussions of communal issues, or appreciate in- depth explanations of certain aspects of current hashkafah".
However, one can also make a case in support of the approach used here by R. Miller, in not granting legitimacy, in public, to what one feels is a basic halachic error(the case being discussed in the link below is that of "yoetzet", which I think is much less clear cut than this case, but it seems analogous) :
"I purposely did not cite sources.
Much of Torah decision-making and Hashkafah positions are more related to the essence of the Torah and elemental issues than to a particular footnote. It is famous that Poskim treated the "Yirah Li" ("I believe") of the Rosh as a stronger statement than when he sourced his P'sak. There is a famous story to this effect as well with Rav Chaim Soloveitchik and Rav Chaim Ozer Grodjenski. As a matter of fact, Rav Soloveitchik ZTL used this method in responding to Ben Gurion's famous "Who is a Jew?" query. He chose to answer succinctly and with almost no sources jointly with Rav Chaim Heller. The point he was making was
a. There is no need for us both to respond since this is basic and there is only one Torah;
b. This does not require lengthy analysis or pilpul. It is self-evident-poshut
http://serandez.blogspot.com/2009/03/r-feitman-on-yoatzot-halacha-second.html - January 4, 2011 at 6:31 PM
A friend of mine and his wife had a very weighty issue that needed a psaq. He asked R' Fink, and R' Fink found that both R' Elyashiv and R' Moshe Feinstein posqened on it. However, R' Elyashiv did not issue a teshuva laying out the reasons and arguments leading up to his psaq, and R' Feinstein did. R' Fink said to follow R' Feinstein; he could not countenance a halachic system in which answers are given without any argumentation, sources, and so on. He could follow exactly why R' Feinstein ruled like he did; there was a coherent basis to the psaq, a cogent line of argumentation based on Torah sources.
- January 4, 2011 at 6:58 PM
I think Rabbi Miller's missive was simply intended to publicize his opinion in the matter, and not to rebut R. Broyde's position.
R. Broyde's paper was not intended to allow uncovering the hair, but rather to be "melamed zechus" on those who do. There was a published rebuttal (don't remember who) that it was dangerous to argue the wrong position, lest the hair-wafflers take encouragement not to cover.
Similarly I think R. Miller's note could be interpreted as a protest rather than a true response. - January 4, 2011 at 7:07 PM
- G*3 said...
A dismissal without reasons is most effective. It can't be argued with the way a scholarly paper can.
> There are times when a position need not be argued. We don't need to write long articles delineating why we believe in Moses and not JC. We simply say - "Get lost!"
We absolutely need to justify a belief in Judaism vs. a belief in Christianity. Just like we need to justify everything we believe. Why would you think differently? - January 4, 2011 at 7:23 PM
- Mechy Frankel said...
I believe this is the very same r. miller who expounded on chazal's grasp of quantum mechanics – prefaced by the modest disclaimer he is stepping "outside my normal boundaries to expound about these things". Well, yes – outside his normal boundaries but perhaps not outside the boundaries of a hubris that permits one so ignorant of a discipline to non-the-less expound nonsense with self-presumed profundity.
Now, to not know things does not make one an ignoramus. e.g. to the best of my knowledge, RYBS was not fluent in Sanskrit, but since he quite sensibly did not offer the world his "expert" opinions of the philosophical worth of the Bhagavad Gita, no one would think this lapse in his knowledge base might justify calling him an ignoramus. But what should we call r. miller and others of his ilk who do feel free to instruct the great unwashed about, well, apparently anything - based perhaps on an ability to fight through a tosofos, kasher a chicken, or do a quick read of a popular science book. So, I at least, may gauge accordingly the worth of any assertions issuing from people who feel free to expound while "stepping outside their boundaries".
And my apologies to anyone offended by my seemingly inappropriate coupling of a RYBS and a r. miller within the same paragraph. Obviously no commensurate scale was intended. - January 4, 2011 at 9:53 PM
As a matter of fact, Rav Soloveitchik ZTL used this method in responding to Ben Gurion's famous "Who is a Jew?" query.
Without prejudice towards the rest of your post, R'YBS was simply responding in the manner most likely to make an impact, I doubt he would have responded the same way if the question had come from someone within the halachic system (and please don't draw that parallel to R Broyde)
Joel Rich - January 4, 2011 at 10:37 PM
"That's why, without knowing anything at all about this topic, I see Rabbi Miller's condemnation of Rabbi Broyde's article as an endorsement of its arguments."
As it's been pointed out, that's a logical fallacy (I believe the technical name for it is a False Dilemma; see: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/false-dilemma.html). Just because R. Miller doesn't present evidence (and commits a number of logical fallacies of his own) doesn't mean the conclusions reached by R. Broyde are correct. They might be, but nothing logically follows from R. Miller's statement.
It does give you an indication of R. Miller's level of intelligence and erudition, and to what type of person he perceives to be his audience. - January 5, 2011 at 3:02 AM
- Shadesof said...
"I doubt he would have responded the same way if the question had come from someone within the halachic system (and please don't draw that parallel to R Broyde)"
I respect both R. Broyde and R. Miller, and was trying to find a paradigm for R. Miller's response (FWIW, R. Feitman, whom I was quoting, used the RYBS/Ben Gurion story for the "yoetzes" issue, which is also obviously within the halachic system).
I also find the comments on the blog post which originally posted R. Miller's response rather unsavory and unbecoming; I think it safe to say that the rabbonim's complaint against the Vos is Nais comments being a chilul Hashem and divisive would apply to such comment's well!
(though in all honesty, any blog discussion needs to aware of those concerns, no matter how yeshivishe or un-yeshivishe its ideology is)
I also agree with the post of "Chani", below, from the above-mentioned, "Yudel's Rest of the Story blog:
"I'm still confused about why everyone is going crazy over a limud zechus! It's not the same thing as paskening! ...
Is anybody seriously disputing that many of the ladies of yesteryear did not cover their hair? Is it so terrible to have a limud zechus on this? Is it better to think of them as ignorant or sinners, c''v?
Many years ago when my husband and I first became frum (we were living in Atlanta at the time) I asked R. Broyde flat out if I had to cover my hair and was told to do so. Moreover, with the perspective of having asked many many shailas of him during that period of time, I did not find him to be somebody who always sought the meikhel route. To the contrary, he seemed to be ruthless about applying his considerable intellect to the halacha and following it to the conclusion.
Although my husband and I have been quite yeshivish for some time, I have nothing but respect for this man and his character. I've seen very few people to match him in sheer intelligence.
I repeat the call of others - if there's an issue with his scholarship, then by all means, have that dialogue. But these personal attacks ...well, no wonder moshiach hasn't yet come." - January 5, 2011 at 3:34 AM
I have not delved into this in detail, but the pshat of Masechet Kedubot 72a -- which directly addresses the issue of head covering -- is perfectly clear.
Any objective analysis of the phenomenon of head covering in American Modern Orthodox (and Dati Leumi in Israel) would recognize this is more an issue of identity politics than halacha. Curiously (or not) the same phenomonon occurred in the Muslim world at approximately the same time. - January 5, 2011 at 6:39 AM
It's interesting that Rabbi Miller didn't write, "and I see no need to refute Rabbi Broyde point by point at all" but rather, "it is not the place here to be l'palpel in this matter."
- January 5, 2011 at 8:59 AM
For what it's worth, I interpreted Rabbi Slifkin's statement (paraphrased), "Rabbi Miller endorses Rabbi Broyde's arguments" as being more of cute quip than a serious argument. Thus, it didn't occur to me to say that Rabbi Slifkin was using faulty logic.
- January 5, 2011 at 9:02 AM
Any objective analysis of the phenomenon of head covering in American Modern Orthodox (and Dati Leumi in Israel) would recognize this is more an issue of identity politics than halacha. Curiously (or not) the same phenomonon occurred in the Muslim world at approximately the same time.
This statement would be just as true replacing "American Modern Orthodox (and Dati Leumi in Israel)" with "American Yeshivish/chassidish[m&f} (and chareidi(m&f) in Israel)"
KT - January 5, 2011 at 12:16 PM
I have not delved into this in detail, but the pshat of Masechet Kedubot 72a -- which directly addresses the issue of head covering -- is perfectly clear.
Yeah, and the pshat of the same gemara is that a woman should be divorced without a ketubah if she converses with other men. Seems perfectly clear also.
I love it when people selectively quote a gemara to support their stance. - January 6, 2011 at 12:30 AM
Zach, first of all Ketubot 72a-b provides the rationalist and historical explanation for head covering by married women. If there is another quotation in the Talmud that directly contradicts Ketubot 72a-b directly, please let me know.
Second, your comment could be made about virtually any quotation from gemara. The amoraim, you may recall, were "selective quoting" mikra as prooftexts throughout the Talmud. - January 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM
"IH said...
I'm afraid you forgot the US is an irony-free zone."
Bingo. Most people are missing the point with all their nitpicking and objections to this post. It was meant to be ironic!
Come on fellow readership, get with it, you guys/girls are better than this. - January 9, 2011 at 3:45 AM
"Much of Torah decision-making and Hashkafah positions are more related to the essence of the Torah and elemental issues than to a particular footnote."
Uh, yeah, but is wearing a woman's hat really one of those issues? Seems quite a stretch. - January 9, 2011 at 3:55 AM
- chaim1 said...
The chasam sofer did not allow sheitals either. According to RSM who considers one is 'chariner' for being mattir uncovered hair he RSM who is most likely mattir sheitals would also be called 'chariner'.
- January 10, 2011 at 10:46 AM
What is a 'chariner'?
- January 10, 2011 at 6:54 PM
- הגיין said...
Carol: "What is a 'chariner'?"
See these, and their outbound links:
(1) http://hirhurim.blogspot.com/2006/01/aaron-chorin-rabbiner.html
[Incidentally, my family retained a memory that Sabbateanism was indeed involved in the conflict. I heard of it as a child when Gershom Scholem's paper from the '30s, "מצווה הבאה בעבירה", was republished in English c. 1970.]
(2) http://onthemainline.blogspot.com/2011/01/rabbi-aron-chorin-pt-1-great-fish.html - January 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM
R Miller wrote that the Gemara says clearly not like Broyde. What else needs to be said?
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40 Meetup Groups match "Dungeons & Dragons" near Willow Grove, PA
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Serious D&D gamers who love the game and want to be iimmersed in a fantasy world. We meet every Friday night playing D&D 3.5 edition. Experienced gamers welcome.
We try to play Dungeons and Dragons every other weekend or so. Friday or Saturday night games, usually. If you don't know how to play, but think you'd be a good role player, we can teach you! Don't worry about books or prior knowledge, this is a long standing old-school adventuring group. We'd love to have you come play with us.
Looking for a Lost Continent? Seeking a king's ransom in gold? Discover it all with the Philadelphia Dungeons and Dragons group. New players or old there is something for everyone. Although D&D is in our name (and our blood, some may say), we accept all types of gamers into the group. From Vampires to Shadowrunners, Warhammers to Mechwarriors, Mana-tappers to Pokemon Trainers, you have friends here. Come join us and unlock your imagination.
Welcome to the NYC D&D Meetup Group! Dungeons and Dragons is the most popular tabletop role-playing game of all time. The game is played with about 6 players. One person takes the role of storyteller, AKA the Dungeon Master, and narrates the story in a medieval fantasy world filled with magic, monsters, romance, intrigue, and adventure. The rest of the players take on the roles of individual fictional characters and explore that world, often becoming heroes in the story. The story is like a comp …
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Organizing D&D players of ALL editions in the greater Northeastern Pennsylvania area (roughly the area brodered by US 78, US 81 and the northeastern state borders including the Stroudsburg, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and Allentown areas). We also lend support to groups in northern New Jersey. The goal is to have many games going but come together to get players and DMs in each of the several games. Plus we can share tips and tales that make our games better. Please join the site and help us spread th …
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Greetings, Heroes! We are a group of alternative Dungeons and Dragons players! Our game is tweaked for historical accuracy and tactical realism with a healthy dose of storytelling and charcater development thrown in! We play a hybrid of th AD&D first edition with the non-weapon proficiency rules combined with the RuneQuest skill system taking place in an all original setting and the adventure material that has never been played or published before!
A group in the area of Orange County NY / Sussex County NJ interested in playing older (pre-1999) versions of Dungeons & Dragons. (Also other 1970s-1990s era games like Gamma World, Rolemaster, Traveller, Marvel Super Heroes, etc.) You don't have to be familiar with the older games to join us. Most RPGs of this era don't require knowing anything beyond a few core game mechanics that you can pick up during play. Bring your 10' pole and blaster pistol...
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This is a group for anyone interested in playing Living Forgotten Realms, the Dungeons & Dragons 4e living campaign from WotC. It is for both new and experienced players and the purpose of this group is to organize D&D games in Westchester NY(as opposed to Manhattan). It also to help organize public play of D&D games in available gaming stores.
We are a gaming group in Central NJ that mainly runs 4th Edition Dungeons and Dragons. We run games out of our organizer's house, and have a good number of trained DMs. Our new campaign just started October 2008; travel to magical worlds and adventure with us! New players are definitely welcome. In fact they are encouraged- all new players receive a free mini just for showing up to their first game! We will help you make a character and teach you how to play if you are unfamiliar with 4th editio …
This group is for those living in the suburbs to get together to play role playing games of various kinds. By Role Playing games, I mean games with characters and dice and a story line in person like Dungeons and Dragons/Pathfinder, Warhammer, Call of Cthulhu, even LARP players My intention is to over time possibly have multiple groups, each variable sizes but each DM/GM can decide the minimum/maximum sizes and individual rules for their games.
We play mostly 'table-top' Role-playing games weekly at our Friday night Open-Gaming. They include genres like; Dungeons & Dragons, Pathfinder, anime, superheros, the high seas and science-fiction. Our group predates this site, so we have many of non-Meetup members who attend. We do have age restrictions for those 17 and under, please contact us for details.
This group is for Players to find other Players for all RPG games, including but not limited to Dungeons & Dragons. All who are interested in Role Playing Games are welcome to join! We're open minded and like to check out whatever people are into. Vampire Masquerade, Traveler? Indie Games? Some of us are even designing our own homebrew systems. Whatever floats your boat! The main purpose of this group is to give GMs and Players a venue to meet each other, start and join games. Feel free …
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This meetup group has been started because of the challenges I've had of finding Pathfinder and D&D v3.5 players around that are my own age. I know you're out there and are busy with your professional lives and perhaps you have family obligations as I do. The purpose of this group is to initially meet for a bimonthly game of Pathfinder and to escape from reality a couple times a month. I've had the books for two years now & I've kept putting off this group because other things just keep coming u …
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Hey there, we are a brand new group based out of Washington, NJ that was started up by my wife and I to unite local gamers and make new friends! We would like to host many different events for our members which will be listed below so if this sounds like something you would be interested in, let us know and we will definitely be in touch! Magic: The Gathering events and drafts Movie Night (Anime included) Dungeons and Dragons Campaign World of Warcraft Guild Organization (if interest is shown) …
WSG is a group dedicated to matching gamers and game hosts in the Central/West Shore area of Pennsylvania. Our prime focus is on: Role Playing Games (RPGs such as Dungeons and Dragons) Collectible Card Games (CCGs like Magic the Gathering) Traditional Board Games (Risk, Monopoly, etc.) Miniture-Based Board Games (Battletech, Crimson Skies, Warhammer 40k, etc.) Video Games (Madden and other sports, FPS's, etc.)
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Bitter Old Men Gaming Group is geared for 30+ year old men and women (despite the name) who enjoy RPGs and/or board games. Don't let the name put you off: We're not all that "bitter." Younger folks are more than welcome to join as well as long as you are 21+ years of age. We are looking to cater to those in the lower Somerset/upper Mercer County areas of New Jersey as there are already plenty of fine gaming groups in the North Jersey and Philly areas. Our meetups will typically take place in a …
Behold Gamers of the Empire State! Let this be a Grand Lodge of ALL those Who Game with Dice and Merit. A Gathering of Heroes and Villains- All with the common goal of bringing high adventure to life in action and deed! In other words, a group dedicated to Role Playing Games of All Sorts - All editions of D&D and its 3.5/d20 Brethren such Pathfinder, action games such as Marvel Superheroes, Star Trek, Star Wars and BattleTech RPGs, and Tabletop Systems like Warhammer 40k and other RPG games tha …
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Looking for face-to-face, tabletop RPGs? Live in (or around) Baltimore, MD? Like to meet on Sundays? This is the place for that! Currently sponsoring D&D 3.5, Pathfinder RPG, and/or D&D4e.
Dedicated to supporting the myriad RPG campaigns currently going on here at Maplewood Hobby in Maplewood New Jersey. We play D&D 3.5, 4.0, Call of Cthulhu, Rogue Trader, Warhammer RPG and many more. You will always find a table and even a private room here at Maplewood Hobby.
GamePodz is a not-for-profit association of passionate gamers advocating the highest standards in gaming experience that are enjoyable along with an atmosphere of respect, maturity and sportsmanship. We instill those designated levels of standards in offering a gateway of opportunities of private, public and pay to play venues for gamers to connect with other gamers.
This group exists for the purposes of playing traditional games of all types, such as board games (both euro and non), Table Top RPGS (with a focus on indie RPGS) and wargames. We are based in the greater Philadelphia area, and are open to all sorts of gamers, from new folks just getting started in the hobby to long-time players of games, and everyone in between.
GamePodz is a not-for-profit association of passionate gamers advocating the highest standards in gaming experience that are enjoyable along with an atmosphere of respect, maturity and sportsmanship. We instill those designated levels of standards in offering a gateway of opportunities of private, public and pay to play venues for gamers to connect with other gamers.
GamePodz is a not-for-profit association of passionate gamers advocating the highest standards in gaming experience that are enjoyable along with an atmosphere of respect, maturity and sportsmanship. We instill those designated levels of standards in offering a gateway of opportunities of private, public and pay to play venues for gamers to connect with other gamers.
Pathfinder Society, the organized play arm of the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, is coming back to Baltimore! Join us at a variety of locations around Baltimore as we get this going again.
This meetup is about getting together and playing some games. Whether you are a veteran D&D player, addicted to RIFTS, stuck on GURPS, or head over heels for BESM this is the meetup for you! We want to get local GMs and players together to play some games and discuss the finer points of role-playing. We're also starting Warhammer Fantasy and a Flames of War escalation leagues as well as playing Warhammer 40K pretty extensively. If you're a miniature gamer looking to match wits with some of the …
The Westchester Gaming Group is a role-playing and board gaming club that meets in multiple locations throughout Westchester County, New York. We have been gaming together since 1998 and currently have over 100 members. Our other online resources: Web site: http://www.westchestergaming.org/ Yahoo Groups: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/westchester_gaming_group Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/westchestergaming BoardGameGeek: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geekguild/view/713
This is a group dedicated to getting gamers together on the New Jersey side of the greater Philadelphia area.
We are a group of dedicated gamers and hobbyists. Our group loves games and most of all wants to have fun. Many of us have been gaming together for years. Some of the popular games in the group right now are; Magic, The Gathering, Strategy Games (Catan, Dominion, Eclipse, etc.), Miniature Wargaming (Warhammer, Malifaux) and RPGs. Also with Spring just around the corner, we are interested in planing outdoor events with our fellow Rockland County R/C enthusiasts. All experience levels welcome. For …
Meet with local Gamesmasters and World Weavers who are interested in discussing the development of their Worlds, Places, Campaigns, Adventures, Character development and Gamesmastering Techniques, all over some darn good tavern fare and drink at the Cobblestone Pub in Purchase NY. This meetup for creative collaboration on Literary Quality World design with a focus on Tolkien, CS Lewis, Charles Williams, etc, as well as Classical Literature, Mythology, and folklore, as a basis for World Crafting …
Welcome to the LARP Alliance Meetup Group! We are a non-profit 501c, education and charity based corporation dedicated to promoting the art and hobby of LARP (Live Action Role Playing). In addition, we assist new and current LARPers and Events by providing information and supplying resources, transportation for players, classes, media tools, and more. As a new hub for the LARP Alliance effort, LARP Alliance NYC will require some time to fully realize the network of support we have established …
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The Heroes' Guild of Maryland is a community of gamers in the Greater Baltimore area. The Guild supports all aspects of the gaming community, including RPGs, tabletop wargames and CCGs. The Guild is here to help gamers find each other and to provide news, information, and resources for the local gaming community.
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Welcome, friends, to the NJ Single Gamers Guild! Here we host events with two specific goals in mind: First and foremost, to have fun and play games in a relaxed setting with awesome people like you! Second, to provide mainly an environment and occasionally activities in which single gamers can meet and mingle. Each event will allow for attendees to bring one buddy; at least one of the two of you should be single. There is no pressure and there are no expectations except that you are interested …
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Sorry, Peter, I just thought, because you liked Suspects, you probably also might have appreciated Silver Light and Warren Beatty, or Desert Eye. They are similar in style.
You get me thinking, Peter. The addition of the qualifier, "brutal." So you think that Thomson's accusation of seduction is like the attack ("pass" women used to say, if it didn't go too far) on young Ann Baxter? Thomson doesn't mention that one, but Miss Baxter did. Perhaps, you are right. What's in a rape, after all? That may have been part of Welles' pattern. The idea of profuse apologies afterwards which Roger brings up would fit, too, from what we know of abuse pathology.
I think that we need more evidence.
I was interested, too, in your reprints of those scathing reviews of Rosebud from such eminent and influential publications as The American Spectator, The Wilson Quarterly, and . . . and . . . and The New York Times. No positive reviews but that crass one (no doubt) from Time Magazine, eh? I was just about to slink off to gaze at a rosebud, when I decided to take a look for myself.
Whoa, Nellie (McKay?): What's this? A rather positive New York Times review from their Chief Film Critic (at the time), Janet Maslin:
Afflicted by Genius
By JANET MASLIN
Published: June 30, 1996
ROSEBUD The Story of Orson Welles. By David Thomson. Illustrated. 463 pp. New York: Alfred A. Knopf. $30.
IN appropriating a name for his brash new book about Orson Welles, David Thomson presumes to borrow "Rosebud," the most famous word and symbol associated with Welles's career. The author's high-handedness perfectly mirrors that of his biographical subject, and his astute, fascinating study lives up to the brazenness of his title.
Daring to venture onto the well-trodden territory of Welles's career, Mr. Thomson uses his full array of pyrotechnics to shape a knowing, incisive and enormously lively portrait, summoning "the verdant, exuberant disorder" of Welles's life. Writing with the same bravado that marks his incendiary (and invaluable) "Biographical Dictionary of Film," Mr. Thomson is arrogant, sometimes galling, often uncannily right. He's never dull.
If there are doubts whether the contradictions that shape Welles's imperious career can support another book after Simon Callow's exemplary "Road to Xanadu," the first part of a projected two-volume biography, published earlier this year, Mr. Thomson dispels them easily. "Rosebud" is no match for Mr. Callow's supreme thoroughness or penetrating insights into acting and directing, but Mr. Thomson prefers bolder strokes: sweeping pronouncements that capture the essence of Welles's life better than they do the facts.
So he declares that during Welles's tumultuous honeymoon with Hollywood, from 1939 to 1942, "he achieved glory, but he ruined himself; the one was not possible without the other." Welles went, Mr. Thomson adds, "from being what Hollywood saw as the naughtiest boy, deserving of rebuke and comeuppance, to being the most lastingly influential of American film makers. For in his willful stress on genius, independence and mercurial ungraspability, he offered a treacherous beacon to generations of young people seeking to make more movies. He was as merry and cruel in this as a Santa with an empty sack, for he knew that no one would surpass or match what he had done."
Mr. Thomson eagerly proclaims himself one of the most ardent of those acolytes, complete with the apocryphal-sounding story of his first discovering "Citizen Kane" in an empty theater in South London; the year was 1955, and the author was 14. (The exultant boyishness and astounding mastery shown off by Welles in "Kane" won him the worshipful attention of many an impressionable adolescent; Kenneth Tynan and Francois Truffaut were others.)
At its most extreme, this devotion leads Mr. Thomson to worry melodramatically that "Orson Welles took my life," but it has also felicitously influenced the way "Rosebud" is constructed. This book is both written and directed, complete with magisterial long shots of Welles, knowing asides to the audience, a film clip of "Kane" (Mr. Thomson explains it almost frame by frame, drawing on his experience as a teacher) and subplots about Welles's various collaborators and mates. There are also the occasional intrusions of an imaginary publisher, who drops in to debate with the author and needle him. "But are we getting to Hollywood?" this voice asks as Mr. Thomson concludes his discussion of Welles's Mercury Theater days.
"You want to be there?" Mr. Thomson parries.
"Doesn't everyone?" the publisher replies.
Such asides run the risk of unbearable flippancy. (Mr. Callow kept his own book eminently readable without needing to be cute.) But they are brief, well timed and part of an engrossing, often beautifully written book. Of the dazzling young Welles presiding triumphantly over the Mercury Theater, Mr. Thomson writes: "He was 22, sonorous, tall, handsome and empowered with jobs, ideas and opportunities. People had to work hard to resolve to dislike Orson Welles; otherwise they were seduced." And of the same chameleon at a much later, more troubled stage of his career, he asks: "How does anyone live 50 years in the jungle of American show business, meeting uncommon disappointment and humiliation (just because he is afflicted by genius), and die with a boy's bright smile in his eyes?"
While Mr. Thomson's account of Welles's precocity is suitably buoyant, his book's real strength is in analyzing the chaos and self-destructiveness of the post-"Kane" years. The seeds of "rising bogusness" show up early and are tied perceptively to Welles's later troubles. Mr. Callow saw the same Achilles' heel (as did critics in Welles's time, citing the deliberate yet troubling hollowness of Charles Foster Kane, as well as Welles's capacity for showing, in Brooks Atkinson's phrase, "more genius than talent"). But Mr. Thomson sees coherent patterns linking Welles's personal and professional habits of deception over a lifetime. "In so many ways," he writes, " 'Citizen Kane' loomed over Orson Welles as he grew older, not just as an achievement beyond equal but as an underground presaging of his own destiny."
The debacle of "It's All True," the four-part film Welles tried to make in Brazil and never completed -- while at the same time cavalierly absenting himself from the studio's drastic re-editing of "The Magnificent Ambersons" -- is analyzed as a definitive episode in Welles's life. "There was never a movie there, only an extravagant, self-destructive gesture, and the aftermath of guilt," Mr. Thomson writes. " 'It's All True' became not so much a duty or an opportunity as a wound he could not leave alone." Citing another failed project, a novel Welles planned to adapt and star in with his second wife, Rita Hayworth, Mr. Thomson further underscores this damaging pattern. "Temperamentally averse to compromise, to getting along with the sharks and minnows in show business, Welles could move with awful speed from arrogance to wounded lament," he observes. "This is akin to the child's way of dealing with the difficult or disobedient world -- but Welles was now 30."
"Rosebud" follows Welles into self-imposed exile in some of Europe's grandest hotels, conjuring up unpaid bills, seven-course dinners, new admiration from the younger generation that rediscovered him, crazily erratic film work and so many great, unrealized expectations. "He comes, more and more, to be a man known not just for his works but for the things not done, the plans announced," Mr. Thomson says.
The book's critical analyses of some of this later work are especially iconoclastic and interesting. On "Othello," for instance, made over a nearly four-year period under especially iffy circumstances, Mr. Thomson declares: "There is hardly an unspectacular shot . . . but there are seldom two or three in a row that make sense. As befits its circumstances, the picture is forever beginning again, on a new, more stunning tack." Mr. Thomson also links Welles's main motifs throughout the body of his work. Speaking again of "Othello," he says: "The film does not answer the question why Iago acts as he does, but it makes a monument of the mystery -- is this not as Wellesian as 'Kane'?"
While Mr. Thomson finds much-overlooked merit in Welles's later literary adaptations -- "The Trial," "Chimes at Midnight" and the more obscure "Immortal Story," an hourlong adaptation of an Isak Dinesen novella -- he finds the quintessential assessment of his subject in "F for Fake." And he sees something liberating for Welles in Pauline Kael's famous attack on his authorship of the "Citizen Kane" screenplay, in which she argued that Herman J. Mankiewicz deserved principal credit for writing "Kane" (a claim that Mr. Thomson flatly pronounces "misguided"). Initially wounded by this questioning of his credit-monopolizing supremacy, Welles eventually took it as an opportunity to make peace with his own destructive braggadocio. It wasn't a sled, but it was enough to set him free.
I'll let this Pro speak for me, Peter, and not append half a dozen others that I found from the likes of The New York Review of Books and the Spectator. [I did find an interview of Jonathan Rosenbaum with our own Lawrence Frence, in which Larry said: "I liked your review of the Callow book, and especially liked your splendid put-down of David Thomson's awful Welles biography, ROSEBUD." Thank goodness, he's read ROSEBUD, even if Todd Baesen has not!]
Peter: I did not bring up Mrs. Thomson's marital relations with her husband. You did.
I'll leave you with a final-final thought, that Thomson has been writing a screenplay on the life of Louis Armstrong, which brings Welles back nearly to where he started in Movies. If it should ever be made, I would not be surprised if there were not a scene where Welles and Armstrong meet, and Welles in return for a one page biography of the seminal muscian's life promises to produce Louie's bio-pic, as we now say. [Basis, much later, for the emasculated NEW ORLEANS, 1947.]
And about five years ago Thomson published in The Guardian a marvelous synopsis of a film about Welles' early years. Maybe, that will see the light of a projector, too. Then, Thomson will be doing fiction, the way you demand him to, and he will be vindicated in the eyes of his lost father.


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Kristen Stewart is currently filming The Runaways in L.A. with Dakota Fanning and the movie is due out in 2010. Off set, Kristen Stewart is known for being reserved, but Joan Jett was nothing but loud, in-your-face rocker girl energy. Do you think Stewart can channel her inner punk or will she awkwardly stumble through the Jett role the way she stuttered through her acceptance speech at the MTV Movie Awards? I, for one, have faith in Stewart. She tapped into a dark grittiness in Twilight and her performance as a disillusioned 20-something in the indie flick Adventureland showed her impressive acting range. Stewart has a rare magnetism on screen and it's impossible to take your eyes off her–she's going to rock this role and if not, at least she leaves with a wicked haircut.
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When we hit our 100-1 Derby future on him I will leave a twit thanking him. America must have the highest "goofs per capita" rating of any nation outside Antarctica.
Re: he's had enoughi read in the form the other day that o'niel said hes had enough is advanced physically to what ill have another was last year at this same time but that he is less advanced mentally. if hes had enough can get his mind right and progress physically like it appears that he should, this horse has a huge shot in the derby.
i sure hope reddam and oniel take guiterrez off him, i just dont think he fits this horse with his deep closer running style. go get leparoux, or for my money go get patrick valenzuela, i would say bejarano but he will end up on a baffert horse. one things for sure, this horse will get better with age and distance. dam i wish i woulda got over to wynn the day before when hes had enough was 150to1. i wonder who bet him that day? betcha it was somebody involved some how with this horse.
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Occupy Portland enters it second week of sustained action in downtown Portland this Thursday. What started as a 10,000-participant protest in solidarity with the Occupy Wall Street protests has turned into fourteen days of demonstrations, speak-outs, teach-ins and community outreach. Where does Occupy Portland go from here?
This week, in a special live broadcast from the Occupy Portland Encampment Jo Ann and Dave will talk with Occupy Portland participants about their experiences, their hopes and where they see the protest going in the coming weeks. Will the nature of the protest be changing? Can this energy be sustained as weather and city hall turns colder? Join us as we discuss these and other questions this week on Voices from the Edge.
Mark your calendar! If you enjoyed Jo Ann's conversation with Greg Palast last week, don't miss hearing him in person at a special KBOO fundraising event on Nov. 13 at the Bagdad Theater. Greg will be launching the kick-off of the Vultures' Picnic book tour - and net proceeds from the event go to support KBOO 90.7 FM and the Portland Alliance. Tickets are on sale now!
Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and conversations on the issues that are important to you. Support Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today (just click the "tip jar" in the upper right corner of the KBOO website to find out how).
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- Title: Voices 20111020
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Pursuing Petroleum Pigs, Power Pirates and High Finance Carnivores: A conversation with Greg Palast
Award-winning investigative journalist Greg Palast blew the lid off voter fraud in 2000 and 2004 that threw the presidential elections into doubt. Greg has picked up the money trail again, following it to a corrupt link between Big Oil and High Finance that has produced record corporate profits whilecreating environmental disasters like the recent Gulf oil spill. This new story, captured in his latest book,Vulture's Picnic: In Pursuit of Petroleum Pigs, Power Pirates, and High Finance Carnivores, reads like a pulp thriller as the Palast investigative team travels from Baku to the Arctic Circle in pursuit of this story.
This week, Jo Ann has a special conversation with Greg about this latest effort at exposing corporate wrongdoing, his coming plans for tracking voter fraud in all 50 states in 2012, and the challenges of being an independent journalist in a corporate-dominated media. They'll also talk about Greg's special Portland kickoff of his book tour on Nov. 13 at the Bagdad Theater, an event whose net proceeds will go to support KBOO 90.7 FM and other local community media. And don't forget to support programming like this by becoming a member during the KBOO membership drive!
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Voices from the Edge on 10-06-11 Where vision meets on-the-ground action: A conversation with Eric Mann
Where vision meets on-the-ground action: A conversation with Eric Mann
How does the vision of creating social justice get translated into concrete action for change? What are the roles and responsibilities of the organizer in making change happen? This week on Voices from the Edge, Jo Ann and Dave kick-off the fall membership drive with a special conversation with Eric Mann, whose recent book, Playbook for Progressives: 16 Qualities of the Successful Organizer, taps into the author's 40 years of experience working with labor, community, environmental and social justice movements. Mann is the director of the Los Angeles-based Labor/Community Strategy Center and cofounder of the Bus Riders Union.
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- Title: VFE 0-6-11
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Voices from the Edge on 09-29-11 The Fraying of Oregon's Middle Class
The Fraying of Oregon's Middle Class
Good wages, benefits and a better life for your children were what most Americans expected in return for their hard day's work. But these pieces of the American dream are fast disappearing as living wage jobs disappear, hard-won benefits are lost and earnings remain flat. When Oregon's middle class starts to unravel, what happens to the rest of the economy?
This week on Voices from the Edge, Jo Ann and Dave speak with Jason Gettel, a policy analyst with Oregon Center for Public Policy that recently co-authored the report "The Fraying of Oregon's Middle Class" with Demos, a New York City-based research and advocacy institute. After years of economic pressure, has the middle class reached a tipping point from which it can't recover? Join us in the conversation.
Coming up: On Oct. 6, Voices from the Edge speaks with long-time organizer Eric Mann about his new book, Playbook for Progressives. On Oct. 20, award-winning investigative journalist Greg Palast throw a light on the corrupt links between big oil and high finance that led to tragedies like the recent Gulf oil spill. And to hear from Palast about high-level wrongdoing, come to a special evening with Greg on Nov. 13, a benefit for KBOO and other community media (more about that to come).
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Voices from the Edge on 09-22-11 What does it mean to be connected?
What does it mean to be connected? A conversation with filmmaker Tiffany Shlain
Are you unable to go more than an hour without checking your email? Are you and your laptop or smartphone inseparable? Or are you so overwhelmed by technology to the point of shunning it all? We continue to have a love-hate relationship with technology as it makes us more connected and more interdependent each day. Connected, a new documentary/memoir by Tiffany Shlain, explores what it means to be connected in the 21st century and what that interdependence means for the human species. This week on Voices from the Edge, Jo Ann and Dave talk with Shlain about her new film and the personal experiences that prompted her to examine connectedness and interdependence.
Next week on Voices from the Edge, Jo Ann and Dave will examine the fraying of the middle class and how that is impacting Oregonians.
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- Title: VFE 09-22-11
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Voices from the Edge on 09/15/11
What draws youth to gang life and how we draw them out of the life?
Continuing last week's conversation on acts of community violence like the shooting of six Jefferson High School students, Jo Ann and Dave look at what draws youth into the gang life and keeps them there despite the risks and consequences? How do we keep youth from entering gang life or draw them out of it once they're in? Joining Dave and Jo Ann in this conversation will be former gang member and current gang outreach worker Pernell Brown and Dr. Clayborn Collins, executive director of Emmanuel Community Services.
- Title: VFE 09-15-11
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Voices from the Edge 09-08-11
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- Title: VFE 09-08-11
- Date: 2011
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Voices from the Edge 09-01-11 Growing up black in white suburbia
Growing up black in white suburbia
What does it mean growing up where your classmates and neighbors don't look like you? How does that shape your sense of self-identity? These questions go directly to the experience of a rising number of African American girls growing up in Portland's white suburbs. Can their experience help all of us better understand perceptions of ourselves, others and the community?
This week on Voices from the Edge, we explore these questions with local filmmaker Melissa Lowery, whose documentary "Black Girl in Suburbia" examines the stories of young African American women dealing with race and identity in a predominantly white environment.
Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years
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Voices from the Edge 08-25-11 Getting on board with a fair transit policy
Getting on board with a fair transit policy
As TriMet begins considering fares for a new fiscal year, some community members are calling on the transit authority to address inequities between MAX and bus transfer policies that hurt working class families relying on bus service. While MAX transfers are valid two hours from purchase, bus transfer policy is based on destination point, a confusing formula that some bus riders claim results in arbitrary and sometimes discriminatory assignment of transfer times. Coupled with rising fares and service cuts, this results in transit-dependent communities like East Portland experience more missed connections, higher commuting costs and for TriMet, declining ridership as people are forced to rely on their automobiles.
This week on Voices from the Edge, we talk with Crystal Wabnum, community organizer with OPAL Environmental Justice Oregon about that organization's Campaign for Fair Transfer and how an unfair transfer policy affects more than just bus riders. Joining in the conversation will be Cameron Johnson, a Bus Rider leader with OPAL. The Campaign for Fair Transfer is mobilizing for a Sept. 28 TriMet Board meeting with the goal of winning support for their demands.
Jo Ann Bowman is a former state legislator, former executive director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a freelance journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years.
Join Jo Ann and Dave every Thursday as they bring you guests and conversations on the issues that are important to you. Support Voices from the Edge by becoming a member of KBOO today (just click the "tip jar" on our website to find out how).
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- Title: VFE 08-25-11
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Voices from the Edge 08-18-11 The Case for Nonviolent Resistance
The case for nonviolent resistance: an interview with Erica Chenoweth
At a time when our government, with the support of many Americans, increasingly turns to drones and other long-range violence to "keep America safe", making the case for nonviolent alternatives becomes difficult if not impossible. But Erica Chenoweth, Assistant Professor of Government at Wesleyan University says the facts are with the doves not the hawks. In reviewing over a century of campaigns of resistance, Chenoweth found that nonviolent campaigns were more than twice as effective as their violent counterparts. Nonviolence proved far more able to build broad-based support necessary to end oppressive regimes.
This week on Voices from the Edge, we talk with Chenoweth about these and other findings found in her new book Why Civil Resistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict, co-authored with Maria J. Stephan. We'll look at how this findings apply to the Arab Spring, the Obama administration's foreign policy and to building social justice movements at home.
Also joining this conversation is Tom Hastings, PSU Faculty, Department of Conflict Resolution.
- Title: Voices from the Edge 08-18-11
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- Date: 2011
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show of 12/8
I appreciate your show more than I can say...however I have some criticism. Your comments about 911 show that you have trusted the mainstream media and have not had the courage to look into documented facts since the event. I am not going to talk here about the mountain of evidence to the contrary, but as a source of so called "independent media" I am disappointed in your rote line of naivete'. Please try the documentary of architects and engineers as a starting place.
VRTE-Greg Palast
From a friend in Vancouver Canada, thanks for all your good work joann and Dave.
I enjoyed the interview you had with Greg and spent time searching for more of his investigative journalism.
I am now retired and have had direct experience with pipeline inspection, specifically what is called "pipeline integrity".
Greg spoke of pipeline "pigs" that are inserted inside of a 'live' pipeline (product flowing inside) to detect discontinuities which may include cracks and/or corrosion etc. The "pig" is not sensitive enough to determine the discontinuity. The pig records information along its path and if it detects a discontinuity it records the position or location of the possible defect.
The areas in which the pig has detected a discontinuity is dug up and inspection crews report on the specfics of what they discover.
That information is communicated to the inspection company's client and it is the client to determine whether or not the discontinuity requires attention, such as replacement of a section of the pipeline.
The pig may indeed by programmed to distinguish between what the pipeline company determines are non-relevant discontinuities.
When I was working on existing pipeline inspections the client's engineers would have sections of a pipe that had some external corrosion (that we had quantified in terms of depth of the corrosion and remaining pipe wall thickness) removed and delivered to their lab where they conducted "burst tests". These tests are actually hydrostatic tests which produce high pressures in the pipe until the pipe bursts. From this information a pipeline company determines whether or not a discontinuity is relevant or not.
I would imagine that if the pig that Greg Palast was talking about in Alaska was indeed programmed to exclude discontinuities that pipeline engineers had determined through testing were non-relevant. As Greg pointed out, this practice does appear to be suspicious and probably he has a case in terms of how the pig's program can be tampered with.
Almost all of the pipeline leaks lately are due to pipelines that were fabricated and buried 30-50 years ago when knowledge of coatings, metals and soil science (cathodic anodic interactions) were not fully understood.
I am not sure if governing bodies have required pipeline companies to conduct their pig inspections on a more frequent basis. I do know that one can send a pig down a line and 6 months later a spill can occur. This may be due to rapid corrosion caused by a multiple of causes. Once coating fails on the external surface of a buried pipeline, moisture, soil chemicals and inherent electrical currents can accellerate corrosion causing a failure even in areas of the pipe that had no relevant discontinuities.
In Canada, and I believe in the US, our governments have slashed the direct public oversight component of regulation relying on "corporate responsibility". Most public oversight consists of reviewing corporate paperwork. The review usually does not consist of a full reading of that paperwork. If the public is to be assured of pipeline safety it must ask for more inspections and more government inspectors who oversee some of the "digs" to determine severity of pipeline discontinuities.
Again, thanks for your hard work!
Which Party To Blame
Joann & Dave,
I enjoy your show, but you said this morning that it was the Republicans that got us into this mess. Both of you are too intelligent to give the Democratic party a pass on their equal responsibility in destroying our economy, in perpetuating a decade of war and the associated war crimes, torture, and erosion of the civil liberties of this nation. Both the Democrats and Republicans have fleeced, degraded, and tried their best to destroy the working class for the profit of their corporate benefactors. After all, wasn't it Clinton who signed the bill repealing Glass Steagall. Wasn't it under Clinton that Brooksley Born, his own Commodity Futures Trading Commission chair, was stripped of her power and credibility when she rightly warned of the pending doom associated with derivatives? Wasn't it Clinton that signed the bill allowing further consolidation of our media. In my opinion, one of your callers today struck on our only deliverance. We need to create a strong party of and for the people to compete with these two dominant parties, both of which are only working for the corporate elites. I would like to see a labor party - a party that is dedicated to enhancing the lives of anyone receiving a W-2. I would like to see liberal people of influence, like Michael Moore, Arianna Huffington, Bill Maher, Bill Moyers, Amy Goodman, Chris Hedges, Robert Scheer, and the like to join forces and implement this desperately needed option for working people. A strong workers' party is the only viable solution for this country. Until such time, I will vote for any party other than the dominant two, or I'll vote for an independent or I will write in Bernie Sanders, or either of you. But I will not reward the criminal class that has, and continues to destroy working class America with impunity.
Foreclosure Mills
I just wanted to post a link to an article about the foreclosure mills that make money off of the forsclosure mess. http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/07/david-stern-djsp-foreclosure-fannie-freddie?page=1
taxing "gross" income?
can you clarify?
don't the measures increase rates on taxable income, not gross income, as the first caller mentioned?
Still waiting for my apology from Joann
Dear Ms. Bowman,
I did not hear an apology for you making a blatant distortion of my comment. I do not appreciate being lied about and especially by a campaign which you obviously are supporting which hypocritically poses as the moral arbitrator of the Universe regarding truth telling.
Again, let me clarify:
First off, I did not say, as was falsely stated by you and your guest, that politicians have a right to lie. I stated that everyone has a right to lie about their love life. That is a vastly different point and I bitterly resent being lied about on this.
This distortion (lie) by your guest and you is sadly emblematic of the hyperbolic nature of this entire pesudo-moralistic campaign.
I will receive your apology before I ever again associate with you or this program.
Will Ware
Lying about lying on the Edge
I don't know how to get an email to the disc jockey.
Will again and please correct your slander of me and misstatement of my comment.
First off, I did not say, as was falsely stated by JoAnn and your caller, that politicians have a right to lie. I stated that everyone has a right to lie about their love life. That is a vastly different point and I bitterly resent being lied about on this.
This distortion (lie) by your guest and JoAnn is emblematic of the hyperbolic nature of this entire pesudo-moralistic campaign.
It is a fact that Republicans involved in this are using this as an organizing tool. It is a fact that this campaign is making common-cause with anti-progressive forces.
It is this campaign that is the divisive force in our community.
This signature campaign is the darling of the right wing. This campaign is the best thing that has happened to the Multnomah Co. Republican Party since Theodore Roosevelt.
If this is about negative campaigning- WHY IS THIS SUCH A THOROUGLY NEGATIVE CAMPGAIGN. IT REDUCES POLITICAL DIALOG TO THE LEVEL OF A GRAMMER SCHOOL PLAYGROUND.
Cops and Race
Very interesting program today (8/6/09). Here's a germane link to an article by Kevin Alexander Gray in The Progressive "Citizens have the right to talk back to the police":
In my view, a well trained cop could have and should have defused the situation far short of arrest.
Too frequently, cops escalate situations, especially when dealing with people of color.
As Mr. Alexander sums up in the final sentence of his article: "We should never have to fear when we stand up for our rights." And that goes for people of all hues.
Citizens have the right to talk back ...
I agree, Peter. This article is germane: One outcome of Professor Gate's arrest should be an understanding that "What lends legitimacy (to our legal system) is our belief that the police are dutiful servants of the people — not their arbitrary oppressors."
The Declaration of Independence promptly asserts "… Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed."
'Know Your Rights' training is imperative, as a 'check and balance' against unwarranted interference with the intent of the U.S. Constitution. An informed citizenry is a Public Good. Vigilance against abuse of power is actually a civic responsibility.
I know first-hand a tendency by Portland police to escalate situations that might be otherwise resolved. I have only an inkling of the mental pressures involved in policing, and but a dim suspicion as to the social handicaps that come with wielding weapons, spending so much time in the milieu of antisocial behavior, of having a community grant your uniformed subgroup status as The Enforcers. I would suspect such pressure, status and lethal equipment make it difficult to appreciate a role of Servant of the People.
Do you know what the common ground may be?
Law enforcement.
How can we change our dialogue so that a person of color, being thrown up against chain link fence – sometimes even without a pretext of wrongdoing – has standing when there is no probable cause that a crime is being committed?
By advocating that police actions adhere to Constitutional provisions for freedom from unwarranted search, to be secure in their possessions; would not this citizen also be involved in law enforcement?
One really ironic point I failed to make on the program is that, from the time of Chief Kroeker onward, it has likely been in the consciousness of Portland Police Bureau command that racial profiling actually inhibits criminal detection and prosecution. Simply the perception of police misconduct reduces the quality of public cooperation. One of the results of racial bias is that it is more difficult to secure leads and eventual witness testimony from a disenfranchised, victimized population of law-abiding citizens.
I suggest there will be a real reduction in crime (due to citizen cooperation) when and if policing is seen to be done lawfully. If it were a shared perception that people who oppose the immoral, unethical and illegal practice of racial profiling had merit as Constitutional law enforcers, I would think this a positive dynamic … and not just for people of color, but other negatively affected groups like the mentally ill, for whom self-advocacy is a supreme challenge.
Let us fuse training and dialogue. You mention the 'well-trained cop.' Perhaps 'Know Your Rights' training (and Oregon Action training includes de-escalation strategies) might dovetail with Portland Police Bureau training. What would be achieved if police training alerted officers that a segment of the population - fatigued by unconstitutional behavior - will be advocating for just and equitable treatment?
If that segment of the population included Police Commissioner Saltzman, Human Rights Commissioner Fritz, City Auditor Griffin-Valade and Mayor Adams, I think the Police union would find impetus to engage in negotiations for a means to weed out officers refusing to enforce the Constitution, state law, or bureau regulations.
To take up your point about police as public servants, the Auditor's Independent Police Review Board is poised to actually adopt that frame of reference. Currently specializing in facts and figures, there is a component of their reporting primed and ready for public pressure to make this a prime frame of reference for assessing the Police Bureau's functionality.
Perhaps better left for another blog, I just want you to know that civilian oversight of armed government activity is imperative as the nation pursues a War on Terror. If the City of Portland were to weigh in on fundamental human rights during the nation's general expansion of police powers, it stands likely to do a Public Good that cannot now be calculated.
Environment: global warming
On this morning's (June 18) program Joann mentioned a man (I think she said "young" and "minority" )who is becomming active in environmental matters, I would like to talk with him about joining the planning and implementation of an event that is scheduled to take place on October 24th.
I am a member ot the Peace and Social Concerns Committee of the Multnomah Monthly Meeting of Friends (Quakers), and the organizer of a sub-group called "Global Coolers". We meet monthly and have taken the responsibility of informing the Meeting about global warming and involving them in efforts to lessen our individual and collective destructive impact on the planet.We have also hosted a couple of community events over the past several years.
Yesterday I learned that Bill McKibben, who is a leading activist in the environmental protection movement, is organizing a world-wide demonstration to take place on October 24: it is described on 350.org.
I want to make sure that Portland participates in this event.
I have not talked yet to other environmental activists about involvement (there may already be plans afoot) but I will do so in the next couple of days. In any case I will welcome all participants in the planning and execution of the event. My telephone number is 503-292-1817.
Thank you for your attention.
Peace, Jim
Measure 53
I was disturbed to hear this morning information that leads me to think I did not check out the ballot measures carefully enough. As an intelligent conservative, I find it both important and difficult to listen to KBOO and other left-of-center sources regularly, and the comments this morning made it clear that I should invest more energy into that effort.
On the other hand, I was a bit amused (and relieved of my nascent guilt) when I heard you adamantly insist that Measure 53 passed by a 76-24 margin because a day-old paper said so. It is possible that the Oregonian was that far off the mark - if so, I would assume that it was an early edition which showed very preliminary results. I went to three sources this morning of which two gave vote tallies. KATU.com indicates that as of 8am today the vote on 53 was YES 475,838 and NO 473,912 which is a margin of less than 2000 votes out of nearly 1 million. Rounded to the nearest percent, the vote is 50-50. KOIN.com had very similar (probably identical) numbers.
So I figure that if you let your personal opinions cloud such simple and easily ascertained facts, if you are so closed-minded that you will not double-check this when it is disputed, I need not concern myself with your judgment on the more complex issue of Measure 53 itself.
- Gordon
Very Disappointed Today
I'm a newer fan to KBOO. I listen every morning now and Voices From the Edge (VFE) is definitely one of my favorite morning program. I'm usually quite a fan but today I was really disappointed by Joann and the President of NAACP. A man called up and asked "Why aren't all black men supporting Obama?" He was trying to be controversial and disruptive. He tossed a lure of disconcert to the radio hosts and what did they do . . . they bit. Joann dominated the conversation, provided a flippant/emotional/short rebuttal and pushed the guy off the air. Worse yet, the President of the NAACP said NOTHING! What on earth is a leader of the NAACP supposed to do but say something in these situations? That was the caller that VFE/NAACP should pray for, wish for, hell invite. HE WAS THE PERSON YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH AND YOU PUSHED HIM AWAY INSTEAD OF INVITING THE CONVERSATION AND PROMOTING GROWTH. We don't make progress if those who disagree don't discuss and debate. VFE too often discusses topics with people that share the same liberal view and all you are doing is reinforcing existing beliefs. It's pointless if you want to effect change. You missed a tremendous opportunity today to change this guy and affect all those who share the same beliefs. He actually made a few valid points—Why wouldn't black men support Obama? It would do wonders for equality. What has Obama ever done?—but with limited scope. You had a chance to discuss, inform, and enlighten those who wondered the same things. You said nothing constructive and you let ignorance prevail. Joann you should be more prepared the next time. The President of the NAACP should be mad as hell at herself. "Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." "Let no man pull you low enough to hate him." -MLKjr