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What Would You Like to Hear the President Say in the State of the Union Address?
Do you think the president's address will be a unifying one that will help move the country forward?
Advance information from various news organizations indicates President Barack Obama's State of the Union address Tuesday will be different to his inaugural address last month. According to ABC News, it is expected to focus primarily on jobs and the economy and will outline new initiatives. He is, however, expected to touch on immigration, gun violence and climate change.
ABC News reports new initiatives will call for more spending to get the economy moving, but the spending is expected to be modest and will likely be offset by spending cuts elsewhere.
What are you looking for in the president's speech and what do you think he could say to help unify the country?
William Evelyn Jr.
9:07 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
The best thing for all of us is if he says; "I resign."
9:28 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Tonight, I will present to the American people, the following promises:
1) Demand a balanced budget from the Senate. I have not seen one in four years
2) Cut all spending 10% across all departments including all domestic programs
3) Eliminate the following departments immediately: HUD, Labor, Education, Homeland Security.
Those folks need to be looking for work in the private sector
4) Promise to quit sucking up to labor unions
5) Reduce considerably the onerous regulations required of private business.
6) Eliminate the IRS and their goon squad. We will be enacting either a flat tax rate or some type of fair tax that will motivate holders of private capital to move back into the US thus stoking the economy.
7) The EPA will be cut to 25% of it's current size. They will concentrate their efforts on the big polluters of our waterways and air. We will open all federal lands for exploration in order to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. This will also create hundreds of thousands of jobs. Maybe people collecting 99 weeks of un-employment will find work with one of these companies.
8) I will immediately suspend any legislation targeted to challenge the second amendment.
9) We will start deporting all illegal immigrants and patrol our borders more strenuously.
10) We will stop meddling in states affairs. The federal government is going to get considerably smaller. We are a REPUBLIC, after all.
George Wilson
12:42 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
This is called a an ultra right wing agenda and will not pass even with the Republican party.
Karsten Torch
9:45 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
#3 is the only one I see that would be considered extreme right wing. The others are just kind of common sense.
Fred Smith
11:43 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Agreed. Also, shut down Dept of Energy; Cut Dept of State budget by 50%; stop subsidizing corporations; cut miliary foreign aid (especially to Egypt) or at least make countries pay retail prices for military equipment; halt and reverse any and all Obamacare changes to date; etc. etc. JLG
9:38 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
11) We will start to pull our troops out of countries where we do not belong including Europe. We are better served with our troops closer to home. We will be completely out of Afghanistan by the end of 2013.
12) Despite a reduced presence in the world, I want to make one thing perfectly clear: any country or organization that dares to attack the homeland or our assets will be met with the full force of the American military. There will be no more abandoning our people in a firefight whether in the mountains of Colorado or the deserts of Libya.
13) Eliminate the Federal Reserve. Enough said.
These are the items we are addressing in the first year of my second term. There is much more to address and my bipartisan team is working on the second year agenda. Time to quit whining, get out of bed and get to work. We have plenty to do and you have my word - the USA will return to greatness. You also have my word that the days of out of control spending, onerous federal bureaucracy, and corruption are over. We'll talk later, I have work to do.
1:01 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Hey George,
That is why the republicans stink worse than the liberal democrats.
They have no backbone.
It is not a right wing agenda.
What about does not make sense?
Be nice to hear Obummer touch on some of these ideas.
Wait, what was I thinking.....he thinks a government that controls all aspects of our lives is great.
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness - how quaint.
Chris P
1:31 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
You forgot one:
14) I will immediately repeal that abomination known as Obamacare!
9:39 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Thank you Chris P
I was going to get to that before full implementation takes effect!
David Brown
10:10 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
I am hoping President Obama will speak forcefully about gun control and immigration reform.
Racer X
6:57 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I am sure Onyango would love to hear about immigration reform as well. This comes just in time for him.
Sammy Hagar
11:07 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
"I believe America is great because of government, not people. We must continue to mislead the people in the name of bigger government. If you have any possessions whatsoever then the only way you could have obtained them was by stealing those resources from someone else. I am hard at work transforming this nation into something that will not seem familiar to you - do as I say or there will be punishment. Turn over your lives and worship me, er, I mean the government. Together we can bring down the rest of the world with my sorry excuse for leadership".
r patton
11:31 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Sammy, Sammy, Sammy. That has already been said in 1939 in Germany. Too late.
Good Grief Y'all
11:10 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
President Obama will cover all the issues the voters re-elected him to stay in the WH to do. He will speak of a forward vision to maintain and advance economic recovery and a return to prosperity for the middle class. He will talk about positive initiatives in energy, R & D, education, rebuilding our crumbling and outdated infrastructure, for the future progress of the country. He will outline ideas and plans to work on the most immediate problems facing the nation: the economy/jobs-immigration-tax reform-gun violence. That's what I want to hear, and I will hear it.
r patton
11:32 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Actually, what you will hear is blah, blah, blah etc etc etc.
Good Grief Y'all
12:17 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Thank you, David.
Here's hoping he'll be treated respectfully while he's speaking.
Mr. B
1:30 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Respect is earned. Not yet GGY. He still has a ways to go....a long ways.
David Brown
3:20 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I respected Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, George H.W. Bush, and George W. Bush, even though I didn't vote for any of them. I also prayed for them and their families regularly, as my Bible commanded me to.
Good Grief Y'all
3:40 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
President Obama has gone beyond earning the respect of Congress, and evidently the majority of American voters, since he was re-elected. Congress should respect the decision of the voters as well as the Office of the Presidency. The world doesn't need to see elected representatives of the people disrespecting the Commander in Chief of the US. Bad enough for Americans to see that, we certainly don't need our enemies to cheer such shameful behavior. If Congressional members behave badly during the State of the Union address, it will embarrass their more intelligent constituents and prove they deserve their low approval rating.
Mr. B
3:59 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
I pray for the president too. And for my country. And for the release from tyranny.
Mr. Obama has done practically nothing to earn the respect of this country. And until he does, he won't get mine just because he is the president. I certainly didn't respect any of our previous presidents for winning a popularity poll. They had to earn respect too, just like everyone I meet.
Good Grief Y'all
4:18 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
One's personal opinion doesn't determine whether the President should be shown the respect of Congress (and guests) for the office WHILE he is speaking. Should we be thankful you won't be in that chamber tomorrow night?
And, yes, he has earned the respect he should be shown by civilized Americans. Political ideology doesn't determine the worth of accomplishments.
The televised State of the Union address isn't a time for political back biting. That was my point, Mr. B. But, neither you nor I control that. The ignoramuses are in charge of their behavior unless their leaders have any influence.
Good Grief Y'all
4:27 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Mr. B, I assure you, I don't put much stock in anyone's popularity ;)
Even if you don't respect the occupant of the Oval Office, the Office of the Presidency commands respect and decorum.
Mr. B
5:43 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
"the Office of the Presidency commands respect and decorum."
Not anymore. That went out with your party and Bush 43. Too late to bitch about the respect level your president receives when everything he didn't do was Bush 43's fault.
Good Grief Y'all
7:11 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Not true, Mr. B. And even Georgie B didn't get yelled at during one of his SofU addresses. Always respect the office if not the man.
I'm not bitchin' about anything, just making a statement. If the rudeness happens, it will be on your party.
You have it your way, I'll have it mine.
Mr. B
9:29 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Have it anyway you like it GGY. The fantasy living in your head is so far from reality, you wouldn't know one from the other anyway. I respect the Office of the President...there is a very nice wool rug in there I would love to own. The person that occupies that office has done basically nothing to earn respect of the American people. Alternately, he has done much to earn our spite. I hope our representative do speak out against his ramblings tonight. His own party has no balls to disagree with him. They are lock stepped in line following him off the cliff.
Karsten Torch
9:50 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
"Political ideology doesn't determine the worth of accomplishments."
No, the worth of your accomplishments determines the worth of your accomplishments. And so far that list for him is very short. In fact, I'd say he's in arrears in that department.
Good Grief Y'all
11:03 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Thanks for the opportunity, Karsten:
Lily Ledbetter Act, New START Treaty, CHIPS, Wall Street Reform, Preventing 2nd Depression, saving auto industry, yes-ACA, taking out OBL, for just a few on the long list. Surely you can find something to appreciate (be honest, even if only privately):
"http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/main/what-has-obama-done-since-january-20-2009.html"And Did You Know?"
212. Despite the characterizations of some, Obama's success rate in winning congressional votes on issues was an unprecedented 96.7% for his first year in office. Though he is often cited as superior to Obama, President Lyndon Johnson's success rate in 1965 was only 93%. http://n.pr/i3d7cY "
DISCLOSURE: this one comes with pictures :D
Good Grief Y'all
11:29 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Mr. B, like most of your party, your resentment stems from the fact that President Obama hasn't failed the nation as your party has planned and plotted for since the night of his first inauguration. He has succeeded on many actions despite obstruction. The fantasy of failure is on you, sir.
See the above list of links. I belatedly dedicate it to you.
Karsten Torch
1:06 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
GGY, those are only accomplishments if you think that either they're a good thing, or if you think his actions actually accomplished those things. I'm not a fan of LLA; his wall street reform didn't really improve anything; his actions on the banks just increased the amounts of fees directly paid by customers; he's just kind of stretched out the depression, hasn't really reversed anything; spent lots of my tax dollars on the auto industry, giving the unions a huge financial stake in them, even though they're the ones that caused the mess to begin with, and resulted in them going through bankruptcy anyway (yep, stellar job there); and took out Bin Laden with information gleaned from those interrogation methods all the people hated.
Obama's methods have been fine if you think the government is the answer to all life's ills. I just happen to think otherwise....
Good Grief Y'all
1:27 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Karsten, I do think the President's achievements are just that. I'm not alone.
You're incorrect on the reason OBL was taken down. The Generals disagree with you.
I know it's painful for your side to acknowledge the President's accomplishments. It's ok . . . doesn't diminish them . . . at all.
Mr. B
6:44 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
It's not painful at all for me to acknowledge any of the president's accomplishments. As soon as he accomplishes something, I will be first in line to shake his hand.
George Wilson
11:55 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
Jobs are still the most important thing for the government to consider. We need to create a National Infrastructure Bank to start rebuilding our country and put people back to work.The idea of across the board cuts is not only poor management but dangerous and stupid. Some programs should be cut; some should be given more funding. We need to stimulate the economy by increasing the minimum wage and make it easier for unions to organize. All corporate welfare benefits and tax breaks should be evaluated and eliminated. Especially the tax breaks going top big oil companies. A background check on anyone purchasing a gun anywhere should be required. A hard look should also be given to magazine capacity. The government under the constitution has a right to regulate guns and that includes assault weapons. Our policy should not be determined by gun manufactures and its lobbying arm the NRA.A national immigration policy that leads to citizenship should be proposed
1:06 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Minimum wage, unions, guns, the NRA, and big oil...yep...that about covers all the "liberal" talking points.
Mr. B
1:28 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Wow George, you just keep getting further toward the deep end everyday. BTW, MSNBC didn't comment on all the ideas you have published and the Huffington Post mentions only two of them. Where are you getting your info to regurgitate these days?
David Brown
3:06 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
George, thanks for your perspective. I appreciate your viewpoint.
Karsten Torch
10:00 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Really? Stimulate the economy by increasing minimum wage and making it easier for unions to organize? In what alternate reality would any of these actually work? Increasing the minimum wage just winds up resulting in higher unemployment numbers (less people for the same money) and higher costs of living. Plus, jobs are worth a finite amount of money. No amount of government intervention is going to change that. And funny how recovery and jobs numbers are better in right to work states than in union states. I'm sure that's purely coincidental. That, and costs of living are far lower in right to work states.
Now, corporate welfare we agree with. But not corporate income taxes, obviously. I think they should be eliminated altogether. What is the purpose of them, anyway? I mean, other than to discourage companies from coming here. The government would do far better to eliminate them and make money from the increased wages, employment, and spending that would result.
Also, even though it has been determined that the government has the right to infringe on the 2nd amendment, it really doesn't. I infringes based on its ideas of what the 2nd amendment SHOULD be, but not its original objective, which included the people's ability to protect themselves from a tyrannical government.
And immigration. Agreed, it should be easier. But everyone here illegally needs to get out, and check back in through the front door....
Jeff Wolfe
11:57 am on Monday, February 11, 2013
"Thank you, and Goodnight." This President has nothing to offer.
George Wilson
2:16 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
@Mr. B
Books and newspapers I don't watch TV .Too many commercials.
Racer X
7:11 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
George- Mark Twain said "If you don't read the newspaper, you are un-informed. If you do read the newspaper, you are mis-informed".
George Wilson
2:14 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
You probably know that when you order a meal in restaurant, the person who brings you the food is generally paid less than minimum wage. Tips are supposed to make up the difference.
Here's the problem: Minimum wage for tipped employees is an appalling $2.13 an hour. And for millions of people who work in the restaurant industry, tips don't come close to providing a living wage.
Raising the minimum wage for the benefit of 29 million low-wage workers would increase food costs at most by 10 cents a day for consumers.
As a consumer, I am willing to pay an extra dime a day for my food so that close to eight million food system workers and 21 million additional low-wage workers can receive a much-deserved raise to help them meet their basic needs.
I would hope that the state of the union address would include this important issue. A bill has already been introduced it is called the Miller-Harkin Fair Minimum Wage Act, which would raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 to $9.80/hour over the next 3 years and the tipped minimum wage from $2.13 to 70% of the regular minimum wage. This money would be spent fast and be a terrific stimulus to the economy.
Mr. B
3:56 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
My niece, an honor student at a prestigious university, works weekends only and summers at an upscale chain restaurant. Through this food service wage and tips, of which she has to pay out 10% to busboys and cooks, she made almost $60K last year. It's not the wage that matters, its the level of service provided.
Karsten Torch
10:08 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Wow, again, how many people will wind up unemployed from increasing the minimum wage over $2.50 and hour? Plus, how much of a loser do you need to be that the only way you can get a raise is if the government gives you one? Minimum wage is not designed to support a family. It's designed to keep employers from taking advantage of people. Want to support a family? Get another job. Learn a skill. Or, better yet, if you can't support yourself plus others, don't have the others. I know that's a big responsibility for people, but it's pretty common sense.
What you and other liberals don't seem to realize is that money does not just get pooped out by business owners. They pay what the job is worth. If they can't make money on somebody's labors, they're not going to hire them. That's not cruel, that's common sense. People don't scrimp, save, and forego things in life to start a business just to lose money so they can help the economy. I know it seems like it should be that way, but it's not. So you and yours are going to do nothing but hurt people by trying to help.
Good Grief Y'all
11:22 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Karsten, those "losers" wouldn't get anywhere near minimum wage if left up to employers. I hope you're appreciative of the wait staff serving you. I hear it's very hard work. Too bad you think that such hard-working people are losers.
Karsten Torch
12:48 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Once again, you're inserting words. Which, as I remember, you hate people doing.
What I said was, "how much of a loser do you need to be that the only way you can get a raise is if the government gives you one?" In other words, if you're working for minimum wage, and you're so bad at your job that you can only get a raise by official decree, then you probably suck pretty bad at your job and don't deserve that raise. I never said anything about servers.
I tip very well. 20% on the post-tax amount most of the time, more if warranted. Don't get me wrong, if service sucks, that amount drops. In which case, they earn what they deserve. I also won't eat at Sonic, because they pay their people based off the idea that they will get tips, but don't let you know that. If you pay with a credit card or such, there is no line for a tip. Most people don't even know that. But I don't think it's the government's job to address it. I really feel that if the people want to be paid realistically, change the environment. Sonic wouldn't be able to get away with it if nobody would work there. I just choose not to support it....
Good Grief Y'all
1:17 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Karsten, loser is the word you used. Basically, you said if you work a minimum wage job and can't get a raise except with govt-mandated min.wage raise, you're a loser. I don't think I misunderstood you or changed your meaning. Servers were mentioned by others in this same exchange, which is why I used that example. Servers don't even get min. wage, so do you think they're losers for staying with the job? They're dependent on the decency of tippers, and they have to share tips with other staff.
It isn't always a matter of whether a job is well done or whether they're good workers. Maybe they have tried for other jobs - do you think it is better for them to be unemployed, not take what they can?
Now you say, "In other words, if you're working for minimum wage, and you're so bad at your job that you can only get a raise by official decree, then you probably suck pretty bad at your job and don't deserve that raise." Seems like a difference without a distinction.
Karsten Torch
3:10 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
You're talking in circles. Yes, hate to say it, maybe it hurts to hear it, but if somebody is making minimum wage and doesn't do it well enough to get a raise, then they don't deserve a raise. It sucks, but life itself is unfair. If you're getting paid less than you want, get a new job. If you can't, then you are, in fact, getting paid exactly what you're worth. Or, in the case of minimum wage, possibly you're overpaid. Forcing the government to force businesses to pay them more doesn't automatically make them more productive.
As for servers, they get a base plus tips. Look at it like commission. I work the same way. My base pay is pretty sad, but I make a good living because I hustle and get stuff done. Servers have the same opportunities. You may think they're below average because they settle for $2 and change an hour, I never said that. And I know some servers that make more than I do.
Karsten Torch
3:14 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Truth is, businesses will figure it out. The best way to attract and keep good employees is to pay them fairly. I used to do that when I was managing repair shops. My mechanics made more than I did as a manager. Because they were good, and if I took care of them, they'd take care of me. But it wasn't because some government entity told me what I was supposed to pay them. All my people were paid well, and we made a lot of money. Because my guys were happy and took good care of customers. Not everybody thinks the same way, but there's enough of those kinds of places around that employees can be choosy...
Good Grief Y'all
6:28 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
There's not always honor in the business world where worker pay is concerned. Not all jobs that are minimum wage come with a commission incentive. Most do not. It's not right to flat out say that those people are losers and don't deserve better pay. You're assuming they don't work hard or do more than is expected to try to get ahead. Corporations have taken advantage of the unemployment stats, piling more work on, intimidating their employees. It's why they're sitting on so much cash. People in fear of no paycheck will work harder and longer for a smaller paycheck. There's honor in that.
Karsten Torch
7:40 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
You really just don't listen. I officially give up on this explanation....
Good Grief Y'all
7:02 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
I'm not surprised, K. You'll give up before you'll give in and admit your wrong-way thinking.
Sally Toole
3:12 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Interested in what the future may hold? Read this book... http://www.amazon.com/The-Declaration-ebook/dp/B009GUA8OI
George Wilson
4:39 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
@Sally Toole
What one reviewer wrote:
"He doesn't really mention the excesses that occur when limits are removed from big business and powerful. I wish the world worked like the far right (or the far left for that matter) thinks it does, but sadly neither view is realistic and the real world falls somewhere in between."
I would suggest any of Paul Krugmans books.
George Wilson
3:33 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
One issue that all political philosophies can reach a consensus on is the complexity of the tax code and the urgent need for reform and simplification. Currently over 4,000,000 words make up the tax code. The code is too top heavy with complexity. With this complexity and the diverse population that the code serves it cannot be administered fairly and people are starting to perceive this.
Today 59 %f all tax returns are prepared by tax preparers, 30% are prepared by software packages (a real enabler) and 11% manually.
It takes an average of 17 minutes to talk to the IRS to seek help and the IRS has 47% overage on answering mail. The solution is to reduce all of the exceptions and "loopholes". One novel solution would be to require each congressman to fill out their own tax return without the help of software or a tax preparer. I personally like the idea of a graduated flat tax. Any tax system has to be fair, simple, and be progressive. I am not optimistic about major reform occurring.
Mr. B
3:52 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Finally George, something intelligent. I agree with everything you said.
Karsten Torch
10:11 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Flat tax, yes. Simpler, hell yes. Progressive? No. Not sure why anybody thinks it's fair to pay a higher percentage just because you make more. The same percentage of a higher number is already more money.
George Wilson
2:05 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Paul Krugman is hardly a flake.
Paul Robin Krugman is an American economist, Professor of Economics and International Affairs at the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University, Centenary Professor ...
Awards: Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences, Prince of Asturias Awards, John Bates Clark Medal, H. C. Recktenwald Prize in EconomicsMore\
Yale University, John F. KennedMassachusetts Institute of Technologyy High School
3:53 pm on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
George -I don't care about Krugman's credentials. I have read his stuff. I have watched interviews with him. He is a flake.
Tammy Osier
8:24 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin Carson spoke truth to power at the national prayer breakfast and he is very much for the flat tax. He had a great explanation as to how it would work. He went on to talk about his life story, saying he grew up a poor black young man in Detroit in a single parent home in a poverty-stricken area. He said his mother "refused to be a victim" and "never felt sorry for herself," despite only having a third grade education. She made him read and believe he could do anything. I'm sure that's where his wisdom came from.
His ideas on fiscal responsibility and healthcare gave a lot of food for thought. I hope we hear more from this wise man. I understand that we will in coming days. He is a force to be reconed with. I hope that the powers that be listened to him. So far, we hear the same speech each time there is an address, asking for more money to creat construction jobs, teacher jobs etc..., and then the same speech again. I'd like to hear some actual points (as stated above by RL) and solutions rather than a recycled speech saying what he wants to do but not saying how its going to get done (besides throwing more money at it).
David Brown
8:58 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Tammy, talk about playing the race card. With all due respects to you, using a Black conservative to discredit President Obama is playing the race card also.
Karsten Torch
10:13 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
David - what are you talking about? Dr. Carson is black. That's on the record. Nobody ever mentioned that he was right BECAUSE he was black and disagreed with our President. You have seriously got to get a grip.
Tammy Osier
11:30 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Oh Lord, here we go....not trying to discredit anyone. Just writing it the way it was reported (go scream at the reporters). The man has a great rags to riches story and some great ideas. His ideas came from his observations from growing up and his observations are correct. He was courageous enough not to speak what everyone wanted to hear (NOT politically correct). I admire him. He got his ideas from the bible- a flat tax being like a tithe, not punishing people for being successful. Each makes a contribution. I will be so glad when we can finally get to where people are not constantly playing the offense card. How does anyone carry on a conversation with you in real life? You sound like the kid on the playground who is always off to the side with his arms folded and mad. You like to STIR things up and I'm not taking the bait. I WILL NOT let you highjack this thread. It is about opinion and keeping to the subject at hand. Please don't make this about YOU.
David Brown
8:26 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Tammy, my biggest problem is that I have the nerve to be a moderate Democrat surrounded by inveterate Republicans like you. That's what happens when Christians discuss politics, instead of things like Jesus being Lord. You and I are totally in one accord on that and other really important facts.
Let me expain what I was trying to say. I am very familiar with Ben Carson. If he were a white conservative having a viewpoint different from President Obama, would you be as enthusiastically pushing him here on Patch? Having a Black person speak what they believe allows white conservatives to avoid feeling racist. Then the white conservative is able to say "See, I'm not a racist. Ben Carson says what I'm saying". That's why white conservatives enjoy folks like Ben Carson, Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas and Alveda King, et al. That's the point I was attempting to make. I'm sorry you took it as me stirring the pot. Lord have mercy, you are so easily offended yourself.
Mr. B
9:00 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
David, your BIGGEST problem is your possession of a victim mentality. As a black man, you grew up with discrimination. But instead of growing through it, you embraced it. And now that your state has moved toward a very Conservative direction, you are victimized further. Learn to live WITH it David instead of allowing it to push you down. As the Falcons like to say, Rise Up.
It doesn't really matter to you who Tammy quoted. If it were a white man, you would have discounted it by thinking she was racist. If it were a black man, you would have your standard reaction...Tammy is racist because she is quoting a Conservative black man. There is no winning with a victim mentality. What you should realize is ther ARE black Conservatives and they shouldn't be discounted just because they have escaped the victim mentality. What you need to realize is the Liberals want you to possess a victim mentality. They play off it for your sympathy and support. The end result is you go to your grave as a victim instead of the winner you could be.
Dr. Carson speaks truth. His skin color shouldn't matter. It doesn't to him, it doesn't to me, it shouldn't to you.
John B
9:08 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Cut the crap. You have a track record on the PATCH insinuting that anyone who is white and disagrees with Obama is a racist. Your spin is pathetic. Sounds to me you're the only one calling Cain, Carson, and others an "Uncle Tom." Shame on you...
David Brown
10:21 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I received an email from a Patch fan who observed that it seems I get more vitriol than any of the other progressive commenters. How right that Patch fan was!
Karsten Torch
10:41 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
David, probably true. Mainly because of the comments you make like "racist."
RL - I know that was rhetorical, but Progressive is, essentially, Communist. That was the code word they took years ago in order to infiltrate the Democrat party.
Mr. B
10:46 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
So, you have fans supporting your victim mentality. That doesn't make it right. You do know that, don't you?
Good Grief Y'all
11:16 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Now, David, I think I'm a candidate for that dubious title ;)
But, the vitriol does seem more vicious coming at you. You don't deserve that treatment. You're a nice and respectful guy.
Your support isn't due to "victim mentality", it's because you care enough to speak your convictions despite the inevitable attacks for doing so.
Tammy Osier
11:55 pm on Monday, February 11, 2013
Dr. Benjamin Carson is a wise man that I believe we will hear more about in the days ahead. People are hungry for someone who speaks directly to people as if he has lived where they have. That's because he has lived the life of the small man. This is the kind of speech I like to hear. You feel encouraged and proud to be an American. He reaches out to all people and doesn't apologize to those who are offended by the truth. I like his ideas on healthcare. WOW! I like his ideas on taxes (on Patch both liberals and conservatives agree with the idea). I like his ideas on education and building people rather than keeping them hooked on government. He doesn't sound like a politician. People are tired of politicians who spend money but have little to show for it. What we are doing isn't working. Please take time to listen to this.
10:16 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
No matter what Mr. Obama says tonight, the stock market will plummet tomorrow. It does every time he addresses the nation.
Good Grief Y'all
11:08 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Chin up, Elizabeth, it will only be a temporary drop. At around 14,000, I don't think Wall Street is crying in its beer these days.
Mr. B
1:26 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
GGY...so uninformed. No one care what Wall Street thinks. They only care how their retirement accounts are affected. Go back to sleep, your husband will take care of you. At least until he leaves.
Good Grief Y'all
1:32 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Wall Street does, and investors do. It bothers you so much that I am informed :)
What is your marital situation, Mr. B? You always have to inject personal vitriol. For smart people, that isn't necessary.
Mr. B
1:43 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Wall Street is controlled by institutional investors. They control the market and make money when it goes up and when it goes down. You really should study the market. It's quite interesting.
I'm widowed after 33 years of marriage.
I haven't had a chance to listen to MSNBC today. Is vitriol today's word? I've heard both you and David Brown use it so it must be. Neither seem to have any original thoughts of your own. Call it vitriol, I call it fact.
Good Grief Y'all
6:13 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
So, America should not have panicked when the market dipped below 7k in 2008?
No, I don't watch MSNBC these days, but will tonight. Political commentary is just sad entertainment lately. Vitriol aptly describes personal attacks on anyone on these threads, whether right or left. We would all be better off without that stuff. It's low mentality and brings discussions to a screeching halt. Beg pardon, sir, but David and I have totally different comments. That is a fact.
I am sorry for your loss.
Good Grief Y'all
7:19 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Mr. B, I think "victim mentality" just edged out "vitriol" as word of the day :D
Karsten Torch
10:31 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
What we can hear is more of the same. More of the failed policies, more government spending, and far more government control. We'll hear about jobs, jobs, jobs. Which of course are still in the toilet. We'll hear about stimulus spending, which again haven't worked. We'll hear about gun control, which is more about controlling guns than it is about saving lives.
In other words, we'll hear more of what his sheeple want to hear than about things that will actually help this country.
Good Grief Y'all
11:06 am on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I think that jobs-jobs-jobs line was from the Republican mid-term election promises, which turned into renaming post offices and turning back time on women's issues.
Karsten Torch
12:36 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
No, that was from clips of past Obama speeches. And talking points from his staff.
Good Grief Y'all
12:40 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
. . . and the Republican mantra in the mid-term election campaigns. They were promising jobs, but once elected they only acted on renaming stuff and taking women back to the 1950s.
Karsten Torch
1:08 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I've heard that line before, but not really sure what it refers to. How did the GOP want to take women back to the 50's?
Good Grief Y'all
1:28 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
No, Karsten, I'm not climbing into that can of worms. You can look it up.
Karsten Torch
7:43 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Hunh...can't find any reference to that. Imagine that. Convenient, too, that you don't want to provide that. Typical liberal talking point, no substance to find. It's OK, we understand....
Good Grief Y'all
6:59 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
You won't find it on Fox, or any of your right wing blogs. It's very telling that you haven't paid attention, especially to this particular subject. It's there, documented. I'm not responsible for your lack of knowledge.
Karsten Torch
9:02 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Of course it is. To be fair, I didn't actually expect you to tell me any of it. It's a liberal talking point, and has no basis in any actual facts. I get it. I have to assume that any actual examples you point out would be like the 'war on women' that liberals keep bringing up, which seems to be based on the idea that 1, we hold life sacred, and don't think killing babies is OK, and 2, we may actually expect people to pay for their own contraceptives. Or, at least, not have government dictate that people have to pay for it. THAT's obviously us discriminating against women. I have to assume that your 'taking women back to the 50s" comment is the same thing.
Good Grief Y'all
9:35 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Karsten, I have never seen a fair comment from you . . . well, maybe one.
Aha, you did know what I was talking about, but you instead use inflammatory wording. Yes, Republicans do discriminate against women, considering them second class citizens who should be sure to get home by 5:30 to put dinner on the table for their man. Stuff like that, too. Binders full of women . . .
Karsten, I must remind you that if we stay on this issue we will be accused of being off topic and "hijacking" the conversation ;)
tom malone
12:55 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
....not being too bright,....stubborn, and just plain stupid.......I still want to see "the messiah's"....transcripts, passport,....and the reason he "gave up his "law" license, highest office in the land,....and this clown does not have to provide them....come on people.....!.....do not let them distract you....position bases on a falsehood....is still a lie,....dishonest,....corrupt........and has
hidden agenda written all over it....!
r patton
12:58 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I think "Good Grief Y'all" is a ringer to, as Herman Cain would say, "Stir the puddin."
Good Grief Y'all
1:29 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Not at all, r pat, just stating my opinion same as anyone else has a right to do.
I like pudding. Much preferred to quicksand.
6:16 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Most of the negative comments seem to come from folks not happy about the election results. The problem is that the country as a whole is moving away from these sentiments more and more each day. The GOP needs to be completely reformed or shrink into insignificance. Next couple of years will be interesting.
Mr. B
6:47 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
The country is going to hell and your suggestion is for the GOP to get on board. Smart thinking. Personally, I'd prefer to be part of the clean-up team.
David Brown
6:53 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Stan, you're a great American. Thanks for your opinion.
7:15 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Don't you think reform ( attracting more people to the party) is preferable to doubling down on ideas that are unrealistic with little chance of ever being implemented?
Mr. B
7:26 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Killing unborn babies, creating an expectations of entitlements, driving the working class into poverty, destroying our ability to defend ourselves, subsidizing our enemies, sending jobs off shore, destroying the GNP, allowing illegal aliens to obtain drivers licenses, receive welfare, medical care at tax payers expense, destroying the class od people that create jobs and wealth, pushing the country toward total dependency on the rest of the world, allowing the UN to make our laws.....
This isn't reform, it's disaster. Nope, I don't think this type of reform is good for anyone. But failure is upon us. At the rate we are going, America as we know it will change and not for the better. A new government will take control. And I can only hope it is a government with the ideals this country was founded on. Don't worry, I'm a benevolent being; I'll provide you with food to eat anytime you're hungry.
Karsten Torch
7:46 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Yep, you're right, we should just reform and enable the entitlement mentality. Just because half the country would rather be on the government dole we should just ask get on that train. Good thinking.
9:13 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Not sure what you are suggesting, it sounds a little out there to me. I don't think the GOP will win any elections with your agenda Mr. B. and that's the problem. People have to decide whether they want to win elections and work inside for change or maintain ideological purity and be irrelevant.
Mr. B
10:30 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
People have to decide whether they want to be givers or takers. We will soon run out of givers. And what you're suggesting will cause us to run out sooner. From whom will you then take?
Tammy Osier
6:37 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
All, the word you are looking for is 'prejudice". David prejudges me (and all white people- which is actually racism at its best). HE'S the one who brings race into EVERYTHING. David, you do not know me, yet you think that you can read my mind. How is it that the message doesn't come through that I love all people regardless of their race (since you haven't read any of my testimony, just my political opinions)? I agree with principle and ideology. I agree with the MAN. I don't care whether he is black or white, but I do enjoy that he is a black man with a great testimony. I admire him and wish others would embrace what he is about, because frankly, I am sick of the victim mentality. It is hurting our country and hurts GOOD people. I admire black people that overcome obstacles - period. I look up to anyone who can go through what the black race has been through and still love, and still be successful. I'm sincere about that, yet you make it sound like I think of the man as a token (HOW DISRESPECTFUL). This coming from the political party who reminds everybody everyday of the week that obama is the first black president. News flash - we've already heard about that. You ask, would I agree if he was a white man saying the same thing? Absolutely! The irony is that if he were, he'd be called racist. I express my opinion and get a personal judgement from you, yet your opinion is ok- but not mine. You've got a lot to learn about others. Love others as you love yourself.
David Brown
7:03 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
"Love others as you love yourself." Tammy, I agree with you there. I wish you would demonstrate that love to President Obama and liberals. That would bless God's heart.:) I ask His forgiveness if I haven't shown His love towards conservatives.
Karsten Torch
7:49 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Disagreeing is not the same as not loving. During love is not being according no matter what. You seem to be tad confused as to what God's love is.
Mr. B
6:51 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country. A great man said that. His party has since spit on his words. And its the Conservatives that are wrong! What a bunch of losers the Liberals have become. God Bless America.
Good Grief Y'all
7:21 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
JFK would think it's the obstructionist Republicans in Congress who have spit on his words. They put party first, not country.
Mr. B
7:29 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Don't worry GGY, Jesus will heal your blindness. All you have to do is believe.
Good Grief Y'all
7:36 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I believe, Mr. B.
Jesus can also heal cynicism and hate, anger and a hard heart. He can heal bullies, too.
Mr. B
7:49 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Then there is hope for you. I'll add you to my prayer list.
Good Grief Y'all
6:53 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Pray for yourself, Mr. B. Your words scream for redemption.
Good Grief Y'all
7:18 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Most people admire and support people with whom they agree, regardless of race. Some use the difference in race of the admired person as a badge of honor and evidence that they themselves are not racist.
Tammy Osier
7:24 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
I never said I didn't love them (or the president). I don't have anything against him personally, but I do doubt his sincerity. I believe his decisions are based on a congress and politicians that have a destructive agenda (which is self-serving). I would love to see him stand up to them as I believe he has been used big time (I'm speaking of Pelosi, Reid etc...). Let me tell you the kind of love I have, maybe you'll see me differently. I hate the abused welfare state and victim mentality that keeps us from serving those who are truly victims (I've seen drug dealers on welfare using the system and also poor mamas whose POC significant other took off and left her with nothing). I hate seeing poor mama's have to see their sons go to jail, because they've been told their plight is someone elses fault instead of hearing and teaching what Dr. Carson heard from his mama. I love my little babies at school that tell me they love me and invite me to their house for a birthday party (every color of the rainbow). I love my juveniles the same way (whether their belt is tied around their waist or pants on the ground). I love my pregnant young girls and want them to have a future.
I'm going to post the site for the transcript for Dr. Carson on the post that is about him. I feel his passion when he speaks; inspiring. I wish I could sense some sincerity in obama (occasionally I do). I'm usually good at picking up on stuff like that and I just don't sense it. Nothing to do with love. :)
Good Grief Y'all
7:37 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Actions speak louder than words, but some words can be deafening.
Racer X
7:51 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Maybe Obama wil explain Uncle Onyango while he is discussing immigration reform.
Karsten Torch
7:55 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
The problem with Dr Carson is that he overcame his shortcomings through hard work. His parents didn't let him skate by. They expected that he would be successful, and weren't about to put up with anything otherwise. I say "the problem with" because liberals can't stand that mentality. It doesn't help them. The only way to push the communist, sorry, progressive agenda is to promote dependency on government. It's hard to do with black man that really had no benefits of advantages talking about self reliance. Kind of destroys the talking points.
Good Grief Y'all
6:50 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
I get it, Karsten - sort of like how the President had an absentee mother for most of his life and no father around . . . he was raised by his grandparents. I'm sure they made many sacrifices for him. Taught him to get a good education, persevere, give back.
Racer X
7:48 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Actually, Obama's Grandparents likely taught him the same values they taught his absentee mother.
Good Grief Y'all
9:01 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Values . . . it's why he became successful in life and became POTUS . . . twice.
Racer X
9:17 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Nope, though I do appreciate your rose colored glasses, wish I had some. They taught him to be dependent on the government, poor family values, no social values and certainly no American values. He never played Little League, never joined the Cub Scouts, never watched his parents work 60+ hours a week to make a better life for him and has no idea what the traditional American family needs. They taught him how to be the ultimate product of the government- why wouldn't a product of the government get elected twice to run it? It's all he knows. He's a smooth taker but that's all he brings to the table. Unfortunately, as proven by the last two elections, that's all it takes to win over the majority of our country. Pretty sad state of affairs. The zombies are about to outnumber the population that actually thinks for themselves.
Good Grief Y'all
10:03 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
More birther, "other" talk. Hawaii is part of the US. Basketball is probably the most popular sport in the US. Golf is a favored hobby by many a Republican. Cub scouts a prerequisite to become POTUS - oh, c'mon. No family values? He has an exemplary family. Try again, or not.
Tammy Osier
8:01 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Mr. B. just read what you said about victim mentality. So true. I don't understand why black conservatives get crucified the way they do and called names. Those I've met with that attitude are the most unhappy people in the world. They can nver be satisfied and are always finding fault. I admire black conservatives more than I do most white ones for this reason. Most politicians (conservative) have basically been born into it. It's nothing new to them. Black conservatives have had to fight and struggle to find what they believe. They come into their conservatism by experience and conviction. Give me a man with convictions any day over a politician that simply believes a set of rules that get them into office. THAT'S the kind of man I'd like to see elected. That's the kind of man that will get some real work done- why? Because he's doing it for the right reasons. I long so much for a leader like that.
Racer X
8:07 pm on Tuesday, February 12, 2013
Maybe Uncle Onyango will be explained while Obama is discussing immigration reform.
Good Grief Y'all
7:27 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Once again, our President gave a great State of the Union address. He did not disappoint and spoke of all the issues I wanted and expected to hear, and then some. The gun violence segment in which he called out the names of victims and their families was the highlight, very moving. Also touching was the little 102-yr-old lady from Miami who waited in line for 3 hours to cast her vote, and others stood for 7 hours. She was inspirational. She lived up to her name, Desiline Victor.
Boehner seemed glued to his chair. I remember that he stood once. He looked like a little kid in time out.
The R party sent a boy to do a man's job. Rubio is not ready for prime time. What an embarrassing and awkward talk he gave. He sounded like he had a very dry mouth - probably b/c he did as he must have been drooling onto the chin he kept wiping off. That reach for his water will be all over youtube.
Karsten Torch
9:06 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Yep, cuz that's quality reporting. Nothing Marco said last night was wrong, so we'll focus on him drinking water.
<<GASP!>> He drank water?!?! What is wrong with him?!?!
Racer X
9:27 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Mr. B- Is there a secret website where the Far Left get their word of the day programming? I bet there is and it's run by the same guy who runs this website:
Good Grief Y'all
9:29 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Marco was sent to attack the President, not address the state of the union. Them was your R talking points he was spewing so fast his mouth was dry, that and the lies, which causes one's mouth to go dry. Like Ryan in the VP debate - he couldn't get enough water to keep up with his lies. Rubio should have taken Ryan's advice and popped a cough drop. That may have been dangerous though, introducing a choking hazard, to the choking on his own words.
It's obvious to even the casual observer that his drinking water wasn't the problem. It was the way he reached. He was overly rehearsed and missed his cues, afraid to take his eyes off the teleprompter and lose his place. It illustrated the fact that he was nervous and scared. But, I'll give him this . . . he is cute :)
Mr. B
9:34 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
GGY has a sense of humor! Who knew? Nice mention of teleprompter. Good job GGY.
Racer - Yes, there is a place where the secret Liberal word of the day is posted. But you don't want to go there. It automatically raises your tax rate to 85%.
Good Grief Y'all
9:46 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
I knew that word would draw you out, B. The mention of a teleprompter always gets attention from people who are hypocritical. It is a much maligned tool for speakers, which has been used by all presidents - even back as far as when former president Herbert Hoover used one to address the RNC. So much better than using cue cards or papers, or stupidly wasting time to memorize a lengthy address. You're welcome for the lesson. Pass it on. :)
I have an excellent sense of humor, if I do say so, and I do.
Racer X
9:59 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
People who think they have a good sense of humor usually don't, much like those who think they have class.
Good Grief Y'all
10:08 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
You have never demonstrated either quality, Racer. At least not on these threads. Maybe you're different in real life.
Good Grief Y'all
10:11 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
Right, Mr. B. For example, "you won't find any mention of the government levying taxes in the Constitution - it's not there". I'm paraphrasing, but you remember saying that, don't you?
Racer X
7:51 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
The Democrats and the Republicans are both pathetic. I think I'll join the Libertarian Party today.
John B
8:32 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013
I sent a text to each of my kids last night apologizing for not sending them to preschool so they could land one of those $9/hour jobs that Dumbama is promising.
Tammy Osier
6:07 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Actually, what attracted his mother to his father was his views on communism. Read up on that. And again, Rubio has a heck of a lot more experience as a senator than the sitting prez did. No comparison there.
David Brown
8:27 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Tammy, President Obama served for three years, eleven months in the Senate. Marco Rubio has only served two years in the Senate.
Racer X
8:36 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Marco Rubio has a lot more experience at being an American.than Hussein.
Good Grief Y'all
9:54 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
@ David, thank you.
@Racer, we get that yours is a thinly disguised birther comment. Most R party leaders have quit embarrassing themselves in that way.
Racer X
12:46 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
GGY- As usual, the depth of your perception proves to only be knee deep. I don't prescribe to the "birther" line of thinking. I mean, he has never been a Cub Scout, he has never played Little League, he has never witnessed two parents struggling together to cut out a better life on his behalf. He, instead, was always a child of the government and then a product of it.
He doesn't understand that the Government cannot fix what is wrong with America, only her people can, starting with the folks at home. The Government needs to be whipped back and the family needs to grow stronger. This is a concept he cannot grasp, as he is a ghost.
Good Grief Y'all
5:27 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Racer, President Obama is a proponent of strong families and has spoken of the importance of fathers in children's lives. He said he missed having a father.
Racer X
5:55 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
GGY- Obama "says" a lot. Talk is cheap. You can tell he is full of crap by watching him very closely. Next time you watch him on your TV, when his lips start moving, then you know he is full of it. He makes all kinds of statements but never backs it up with how he came to his conclusions, it's all just BS and wishful thinking, which doesn't get the job done.
Good Grief Y'all
10:09 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Rubio's pre-written speech was just a warmed-over Romney campaign speech. It was obvious he didn't make adjustments to his response after the SOTU, not taking into account what the President actually said instead of what Rubio anticipated the President saying. And, the same day, he voted against the Violence Against Women Act. Rubio also voted against Sandy Hook relief - he who represents a state regularly hit by hurricanes, people. Same old same old rehashed GOP hardline. Can you say looking to be a presidential R candidate in 2016? Can't vote for any federal spending even when necessary b/c he'll be running. When another hurricane hits his state, that will be the end of him. Oh, and he's selling his- middle class - $675,000 Florida home.
He is cute, though.
Mr. B
10:16 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I think you meant Hurricane Sandy versus Sandy Hook. Those were two different occurrences.
Karsten Torch
10:36 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Mr B - both were great opportunities for the left to push their agenda, so they're the same in that way. Her confusion was understandable....
Karsten Torch
10:52 am on Saturday, February 16, 2013
He didn't really need to change it up much, though. We all knew what Obama was going to say. No real surprises there...
Violence Against Women Act is an imperfect, ill-prepared document. Reminds of me of the ObamaCare bill, but I digress. Is it better to vote for a bill that may do more harm overall than good, just because it has a name that SHOULD be hard to argue against?
The Hurrican Sandy relief bill was also just so chock full of unrelated pork, we all should have been very upset that anybody voted for it. Actually, we should be angry at the politicians that can't let a relief bill go up for vote without adding a lot of other crap to it. Funny how we haven't addressed pork yet, regardless of all the promises to do so. I do remember that we've been promised that for many many years (before Obama) but I also remember that Obama said he would NOT sign any bill with pork in it - and then he did. And continues to do so.
And I realize it's not just the left inserting pork. But it is those on the left that seem to decry those on the right that don't vote for bills for that reason.
Mr. B
1:16 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Oh Karsten, I don't think she is confused. Misguided, delusional, insane, evil, robotic, possessed..., the list could go on and on. But there is hope. My Lenten prayer group has her on the top of our list for deliverance.
Good Grief Y'all
5:22 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Yes, I certainly did, Mr. B. Thank you. Sandy Hook weighs heavily on my mind.
Good Grief Y'all
5:32 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Mr. B, you disappoint me. You have again broken your Lenten covenant.
Your "prayer" time isn't doing you much good as you accelerate your vile insults.
Are you mocking this time in the holy calendar meant for reflection and preparation for the resurrection?
Mr. B
6:00 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
I really tried to explain my covenant GGY. You just don't want to understand or possibly aren't capable. I'm not sure which. Possibly your church doesn't celebrate Lent. That's not a bad thing, not all churches put an emphasis on it. Not all churches allow their congregates to communicate directly with God. It's exhilarating.
My conversations with God are doing wonders. I again encourage you to join us. It will be enlightening. And we're praying for some of the same things you complain about so you would fit right in. Take time for God, GGY. You don't seem to have in mind the things of God but of man.
Good Grief Y'all
6:19 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Mr. B - look at your comment to me just a few notches up. How dare you question my relationship with God? Do you think Jesus Christ would say those words to anyone or approve his followers doing so? Your words are hateful, display hatred and are inappropriate.
My denomination and my church do indeed observe Lent.
The problem with your covenant is that your hatred of me won't allow you to keep your promise to avoid "sparring" until April 1. Your words to me are meant to provoke me. You made that promise to God, so you say. I didn't, but I still don't call you names and insult your every post.
Whether you keep or break your covenant with God is between you and God. I'm just reminding you of it because you often criticize, correct and insult me, while you proclaim your piety. I despise hypocrisy. You also keep changing the premise of your promise :)
Racer X
6:42 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
GGY- So you hate hypocrisy? You must really loathe that turd sitting in the White House.
Good Grief Y'all
6:45 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Racer, I made the following comment in reply to you above, but it is still hanging out in "Pending Approval" purgatory. It fits here, too:
Racer, your hatred of the man won't allow you to objectively listen to him. Your hatred of the man won't allow you to acknowledge his achievements or the progress made during his administration. Your hatred of the man invalidates anything you have to say about him.
Mr. B
9:01 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
God has laid you on my heart, GGY. I'm truly trying to bring you to the light. Evil doesn't like that and fights hard at every step. My words aren't meant to provoke, they're written by command; i question nit why. I can't force you, wouldn't want to force you, just want you to know I'm fighting for you, not with you. My promise has never changed. Making people see hypocrisy instead of truth is a tool of evil. Satan reminds me constantly of my covenant but I don't listen to him either. He has no power except that which we give him and I don't give him any, at least not intentionally. The invitation stands.
Good Grief Y'all
7:40 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Pardon me, Mr. B, but I don't believe anything you say. You have no credibility.
I have caught you in untruths which you aren't big enough to admit to, saying you have made a Lenten covenant not to spar until April 1. Then you continue to harass me. You make a mockery of prayer and the season of Lent. You claim to be deep in observance of this season, claim to be following a special prayer discipline, then you write hateful words about someone you have never met whom you judge and insult because of a difference in politics. You are not a good example of Christianity. A good, observant Christian would not write or say such as this about anyone:
"Misguided, delusional, insane, evil, robotic, possessed..."
You are a caricature. Caricatures don't have a heart or a conscience.
Racer X
7:47 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
DING, DING, DING! It's official, for the 1000th time, the pot calls the kettle black.
GGY, if nothing else, is consistent.
Racer X
7:52 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
DING, DING, DING, DING! It's official, for the 1000th time, the pot calls the kettle black.
GGY, if nothing else, is consistent. Then again, when it comes to being a dim bulb, is consistent really a good thing?
Tammy Osier
12:24 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Still no comparison when the argument is to dicredit ru io from being president. My point was that neither did obama. By 2016 he will most certainly have been in the game long enough. Personally governors have eay more experoence than senators. Governors have get along with many entiries. Senators just vote.
Racer X
1:35 pm on Saturday, February 16, 2013
Governors have to practice politics in a much more credible and realistic arena. Governors have to be much more accountable than Senators or their voters will be on the steps of his/her house.
Problem is- the far left cannot see the importance of government on the local level. They worship the all powerful, life giving sustenance that they believe can only be provided by the private club at the Federal level.
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9:02 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Mr. B, matt. 16:23 is very appropriate (being a stumbling block). I'm certain that there is also scripture at rejoicing at anothers downfall as opposed to helping to keep your brother from sin. Uh, the book of James concerning looking in a mirror. I won't continue as I don't want to start armagedon- lol. Those are just the thoughts that come to my head as I read these posts. I've tried to stick to things that stay with the original posts, ignoring personal remarks, and it's done me very well. In fact, when I scroll back, it becomes obvious who provokes and goads and looks silly in the process. Finger pointing extrordinaire! Racer X - pot calling the kettle? Good call. lol
I've decided to look at my posts as something that I could show my Pastor or family. I doubt some could pass muster on that one.
Tammy Osier
9:14 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Racer X - As far as governors, they have to work with a senate, other governors AND the federal government. It's really too bad that the qualifications for president did not use governance as a criteria. As much as I found a lot of disagreement with bill Clinton, I did notice his ability to work with boths sides of the asile and I guarantee you, that came from his experience as a governor.


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The award is meant to be the opposite of the Orwell Award (which is for those who contribute to honesty and clarity in public language), somewhat like what the Razzie award is to the Oscar. The National Council of Teachers of English has been issuing the award to one or more people (or occasionally statements) for more than 35 years now.
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Dear Readers,
I would like to list a few accomplishments by President Obama. The President has worked tirelessly to end the war in Iraq, expand health care to all Americans and implemented an economic recovery program that has created nearly three million jobs. He has accomplished so much and still has a great deal left to do. Everything he fought for is now at stake.
The question is simple. Will we go forward and build on these accomplishments or will we go back? The answer is now in our hands.
President Obama's commitment to American women and their families is important. President Obama, the father of two daughters, believes that women's issues are very important issues. So do I.
He believes in equal pay for equal work. The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act was signed into law. It insures that women will receive the same wages, for the same work as men. Do you like that? I do.
We now see improved health care for women. Starting in 2012, new health insurance plans are required to cover preventive services like mammograms, contraception and domestic violence screenings without charge. Do you like that? I do.
President Obama is protecting a woman's right to choose. He reversed the global gag rule which banned the government from providing aid to international family planning groups. He stood up to Republicans in Congress trying to roll back a woman's right to choose what she should do with her own body. He also defended Planned Parenthood, which provides free, or reduced price health care for women. Mitt Romney has stated he would unfund Planned Parenthood. Many women would no longer be able to have mammogram screenings for free.
President Obama signed into law the Affordable Care Act to restore health care as a basic cornerstone of middle-class security in America. It prohibits insurance companies from denying coverage to people with pre-existing conditions or from cancelling coverage when someone gets sick. There are no longer lifetime caps on dollar amounts. Do you like that? I do, and I am on Medicare.
Access to health care has been expanded. Now, 32 million more Americans are able to afford health insurance for the first time. Nearly all Americans, 95 of those under the age of 65, will have affordable health insurance. Do you like that? I do.
The President has closed the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan "donut hole." Over 2.6 million seniors have saved an average of $550 on prescription drugs. By 2020 the Medicare "donut hole" will be closed entirely. Do you like that? I do.
Please remember senior voters (those over 65), you should remember that the Republican party never wanted" Medicare to begin with. Do you think you can find an insurance policy with complete coverage for $6,400 per year at age 65? That is the amount your insurance voucher will be if the Republicans have their way.
I know the economy is not back to where it should be. But, please remember, the Republicans in Congress stopped everything the President wanted to do by calling for a filibuster. Our roads and bridges, our infrastructure, are falling apart. Put people to work repairing and building our infrastructure.
President Obama ended the Iraq War. President Bush lied to us about Iraq. We went to war on false pretenses. A lot of American soldiers and Iraqi citizens died under those false pretenses. When he campaigned in 2008, President Obama promised to end the war in Iraq. He did. President Obama is trying to bring home our troops from Afghanistan. There is an end date on the calendar. President Obama got Osama bin Laden. President Bush stated during his presidency that he had given up looking for bin Laden. President Obama ordered Navy Seal Team 6 to go and get him and bring him to justice. They did, and I like that.
President Obama has honored the services of Veterans and their families. Thanks to new tax credits given to business for hiring currently unemployed and or disabled veterans, our troops and their families can now find employment that will insure them the chance of keeping their heads above water.
The question is simple. Will we go forward and build on these accomplishments, or will we go back, erasing all the progress that has been made in this country? The answer is now in our hands, the voters of America.
There are so many other accomplishments to address. I hope to be able to address these issues in the very near future. Thank you very much.
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26 Jesus and his disciples sailed to the Gerasenes' land, which is across the lake from Galilee. 27 As soon as Jesus got out of the boat, a certain man met him. The man was from the city and was possessed by demons. For a long time, he had lived among the tombs, naked and homeless. 28 When he saw Jesus, he shrieked and fell down before him. Then he shouted, " What have you to do with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, don't torture me! " 29 He said this because Jesus had already commanded the unclean spirit to come out of the man. Many times it had taken possession of him, so he would be bound with leg irons and chains and placed under guard. But he would break his restraints, and the demon would force him into the wilderness.
30 Jesus asked him, " What is your name? "
" Legion, " he replied, because many demons had entered him. 31 They pleaded with him not to order them to go back into the abyss.t32 A large herd of pigs was feeding on the hillside. The demons begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs. Jesus gave them permission, 33 and the demons left the man and entered the pigs. The herd rushed down the cliff into the lake and drowned.
34 When those who tended the pigs saw what happened, they ran away and told the story in the city and in the countryside. 35 People came to see what had happened. They came to Jesus and found the man from whom the demons had gone. He was sitting at Jesus' feet, fully dressed and completely sane. They were filled with awe. 36 Those people who had actually seen what had happened told them how the demon-possessed man had been delivered. 37 Then everyone gathered from the region of the Gerasenes asked Jesus to leave their area because they were overcome with fear. So he got into the boat and returned across the lake. 38 The man from whom the demons had gone begged to come along with Jesus as one of his disciples. Jesus sent him away, saying, 39 " Return home and tell the story of what God has done for you. " So he went throughout the city proclaiming what Jesus had done for him.
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