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« Thread Started on Mar 24, 2008, 11:06pm »
One of the most debatable questions about the death penalty is the cost of the inmates on death row compared to the cost of inmates serving life without parole (LWOP). After doing some research I found serveral sites talking about the cost, one said the death penalty cost more and the other said LWOP cost more. Then there was one part from the victim's family members stating that they would rather have the convicted murders put in prison for life w/o parole due to the cost taxpayers are paying could be used for something more like counseling for the victim's families. What do you think about the information I have brought to everyones attention?
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NEW VOICES: Murder Victims Families Testify in Maryland on the Death Penalty
Family members of murder victims testified before the Maryland Senate Judiciary Committee on March 6 about the painful toll the death penalty has taken on their lives, stating that the resources spent on seeking death sentences could be better used elsewhere. "I've watched too many families go through this to make me believe the system will ever work," said Kathy Garcia, whose nephew was murdered 20 years ago. She continued, "The death penalty divides families at the very time they need each other the most." Other family members of murdered victims agreed, suggesting that the money spent on the death penalty could be better used in providing counseling and other support to survivors. Vicki Schieber, whose daughter was murdered in Philadelphia in 1998, told the committee that years of death penalty appeals are excruciating to families. "The system is just too painful," she said.
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Costs of the Death Penalty
Information on Costs of the Death Penalty From DPIC
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Cost News and Developments - Current Year
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Information on Costs of the Death Penalty From DPIC
"Costs of the Death Penalty and Related Issues" Testimony of Richard C. Dieter, Executive Director, Death Penalty Information Center, before the Colorado Senate Judiciary Committee. (February 7, 2007) This is a comprehensive description of the death penalty process and related costs.
Testimony of Richard C. Dieter, Executive Director, Death Penalty Information Center, regarding the costs of the death penalty and related issues before the New York State Assembly Standing Committees on Codes, Judiciary, and Correction. (January 25, 2005)
Testimony of Richard C. Dieter, Executive Director, Death Penalty Information Center, regarding the costs of the death penalty before the Massachusetts Joint Committee on Criminal Justice. (March 27, 2003)
Testimony of Richard C. Dieter, Executive Director, Death Penalty Information Center, regarding the costs of the death penalty to the Assembly and Senate of Nevada, Legislative Commission's Subcommittee to Study the Death Penalty and Related DNA Testing. (April 18, 2002)
DPIC report: Millions Misspent: What Politicians Don't Say About the High Costs of the Death Penalty (updated version, 1994)
Financial Facts About the Death Penalty
Report to Washington State Bar Association regarding costs
At the trial level, death penalty cases are estimated to generate roughly $470,000 in additional costs to the prosecution and defense over the cost of trying the same case as an aggravated murder without the death penalty and costs of $47,000 to $70,000 for court personnel.
On direct appeal, the cost of appellate defense averages $100,000 more in death penalty cases, than in non-death penalty murder cases.
Personal restraint petitions filed in death penalty cases on average cost an additional$137,000 in public defense costs.
(FINAL REPORT OF THE DEATH PENALTY SUBCOMMITTEE OF THE COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC DEFENSE, Washington State Bar Association, December 2006).
Death Penalty has Cost New Jersey Taxpayers $253 Million
A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities. The report's authors said that the cost estimate is "very conservative" because other significant costs uniquely associated with the death penalty were not available. "From a strictly financial perspective, it is hard to reach a conclusion other than this: New Jersey taxpayers over the last 23 years have paid more than a quarter billion dollars on a capital punishment system that has executed no one," the report concluded. Since 1982, there have been 197 capital trials in New Jersey and 60 death sentences, of which 50 were reversed. There have been no executions, and 10 men are housed on the state's death row. Michael Murphy, former Morris County prosecutor, remarked: "If you were to ask me how $11 million a year could best protect the people of New Jersey, I would tell you by giving the law enforcement community more resources. I'm not interested in hypotheticals or abstractions, I want the tools for law enforcement to do their job, and $11 million can buy a lot of tools." (See Newsday, Nov. 21, 2005; also Press Release, New Jerseyans for Alternatives to the Death Penalty, Nov. 21, 2005). Read the Executive Summary. Read the full report. Read the NJADP Press Release.
Study Finds Death penalty Costly, Ineffective
A new report released by the Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury recommended changes to the state's costly death penalty and called into question its effectiveness in preventing crime. The Office of Research noted that it lacked sufficient data to accurately account for the total cost of capital trials, stating that because cost and time records were not maintained, the Office of Research was unable to determine the total, comprehensive cost of the death penalty in Tennessee." Although noting that, "no reliable data exists concerning the cost of prosecution or defense of first-degree murder cases in Tennessee," the report concluded that capital murder trials are longer and more expensive at every step compared to other murder trials. In fact, the available data indicated that in capital trials, taxpayers pay half again as much as murder cases in which prosecutors seek prison terms rather than the death penalty. Findings in the report include the following:
Death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.
Tennessee District Attorneys General are not consistent in their pursuit of the death penalty.
Surveys and interviews of district attorneys indicate that some prosecutors "use the death penalty as a 'bargaining chip' to secure plea bargains for lesser sentences."
Previous research provides no clear indication whether the death penalty acts as a method of crime prevention.
The Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals reversed 29 percent of capital cases on direct appeal.
Although any traumatic trial may cause stress and pain for jurors, the victims' family, and the defendant's family, the pressure may be at its peak during death penalty trials. (July 2004)
Read the The Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury Office of Research's Report, "Tennessee's Death Penalty: Costs and Consequences."
Study Concludes Death Penalty is Costly Policy
In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases. The study counted death penalty case costs through to execution and found that the median death penalty case costs $1.26 million. Non-death penalty cases were counted through to the end of incarceration and were found to have a median cost of $740,000. For death penalty cases, the pre-trial and trial level expenses were the most expensive part, 49% of the total cost. The costs of appeals were 29% of the total expense, and the incarceration and execution costs accounted for the remaining 22%. In comparison to non-death penalty cases, the following findings were revealed:
The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.
The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases ($508,000 for death case; $32,000 for non-death case).
The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.
The costs of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case.
Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.
(Performance Audit Report: Costs Incurred for Death Penalty Cases: A K-GOAL Audit of the Department of Corrections) Read DPIC's Summary of the Kansas Cost Report.
Death Penalty Trials Very Costly Relative to County Budgets
Capital cases burden county budgets with large unexpected costs, according to a report released by the National Bureau of Economic Research, "The Budgetary Repercussions of Capital Convictions," by Katherine Baicker. Counties manage these high costs by decreasing funding for highways and police and by increasing taxes. The report estimates that between 1982-1997 the extra cost of capital trials was $1.6 billion. (NBER Working Paper No. w8382, Issued in July 2001) Read the abstract.
Total cost of Indiana's death penalty is 38% greater than the total cost of life without parole sentences
A study by Indiana's Criminal Law Study Commission found this to be true, assuming that 20% of death sentences are overturned and resentenced to life. (Indiana Criminal Law Study Commission, "Commission Report on Capital Sentencing," January 10, 2002)
North Carolina Spends More per Execution than on a Non-death Penalty Murder Case
The most comprehensive death penalty study in the country found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million more per execution than the a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of life imprisonment (. On a national basis, these figures translate to an extra cost of over $1 billion spent since 1976 on the death penalty. ("The Costs of Processing Murder Cases in North Carolina" Duke University, May 1993)
Florida Spends Millions Extra per Year on Death Penalty
Florida would save $51 million each year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole, according to estimates by the Palm Beach Post. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to an approximate cost of $24 million for each execution. This finding takes into account the relatively few inmates who are actually executed, as well as the time and effort expended on capital defendants who are tried but convicted of a lesser murder charge, and those whose death sentences are overturned on appeal. ("The High Price of Killing Killers," Palm Beach Post, January 4, 2000)
Florida Spent Average of $3.2 Million per Execution from 1973 to 1988
During that time period, Florida spent an estimated $57 million on the death penalty to achieve 18 executions. ("Bottom Line: Life in Prison One-Sixth as Expensive," Miami Herald, July 10, 1988)
California Spends Millions More on Capital Cases
California spends $90 Million dollars annually above and beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system on capital cases. $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level (Sacramento Bee, March 18, 1988). In January 2003, despite a budge deficit, California Governor Gray Davis proposed building a new $220 million state of the art death row. ("San Quentin Debate: Death Row vs. Bay Views, New York Times, December 18, 2004).
The California Death Penalty System Costs Taxpayers More than $114 Million a Year
According to state and federal records obtained by The Los Angeles Times, maintaining the California death penalty system costs taxpayers more than $114 million a year beyond the cost of simply keeping the convicts locked up for life. This figure does not count the millions more spent on court costs to prosecute capital cases. The Times concluded that Californians and federal taxpayers have paid more than a quarter of a billion dollars for each of the state's 11 executions, and that it costs $90,000 more a year to house one inmate on death row, where each person has a private cell and extra guards, than in general prison population. This additional cost per prisoner adds up to $57.5 million in annual spending. ("Death Row Often Means a Long Life," Los Angeles Times, March 6, 2005).
1988 Cost Study by the Sacramento Bee
A study done by the Sacramento Bee (March 28, 1988) suggests that California would save $90 million per year if it were to abolish the death penalty. $78 million of these expenses are occurred at the trial level and would not be reduced by shortening appeals. ("CLOSING DEATH ROW WOULD SAVE STATE $90 MILLION A YEAR," Sacramento Bee, March 28, 1988).
Texas death penalty cases cost more than non-capital cases
That is about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. ("Executions Cost Texas Millions," Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992)
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Read the DPIC Report: Millions Misspent: What Politicians Don't Say About the Death Penalty (updated version, 1994)
NY - The estimated costs for New Yorks death penalty, which was reinstated in 1995: $160 million, or approximately $23 million for each person sentenced to death, with no executions likely for many years. (The Times Union, Sept. 22, 2003)
NE - Because of one death penalty case in Nebraska, the Madison County Public Defenders Office doesnt have time to meet with their regular clients and prepare adequate defenses, in violation of their code of ethics. Attorneys are withdrawing from all new cases to which they are appointed. (Lincoln Journal Star, Sept. 22, 2003)
OH - In Ohio, the low pay for death penalty representation coupled with the pressure of the cases has meant a shortage of qualified attorneys: In Mahoning County, only 4 lawyers qualify for lead death penalty work; in Trumbull County, 2; in Columbiana County, only 1. (Youngstown Vindicator, Sept. 22, 2003)
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Many opponents present, as fact, that the cost of the death penalty is so expensive (at least $2 million per case?), that we must choose life without parole ("LWOP") at a cost of $1 million for 50 years. Predictably, these pronouncements may be entirely false. JFA estimates that LWOP cases will cost $1.2 million - $3.6 million more than equivalent death penalty cases.
Cost of Life Without Parole: Cases
Equivalent To Death Penalty Cases Cost of Death Penalty Cases
1. $34,200/year (1) for 50 years (2), at
a 2% (3) annual cost increase, plus
$75,000 (4) for trial & appeals = $3.01 million $60,000/year (1) for 6 years (5), at
a 2% (3) annual cost increase, plus
$1.5 million (4) for trial & appeals = $1.88 million
2. Same, except 3% (3) = $4.04 million Same, except 3% (3) = $1.89 million
3. Same, except 4% (3) = $5.53 million Same, except 4% (3) = $1.91 million
There is no question that the up front costs of the death penalty are significantly higher than for equivalent LWOP cases. There also appears to be no question that, over time, equivalent LWOP cases are much more expensive - from $1.2 to $3.6 million - than death penalty cases. Opponents ludicrously claim that the death penalty costs, over time, 3-10 times more than LWOP.
I hope this is helpful to everyone and gives everyone an insite on things. It still has me questioning the cost, which one is more accurate?
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« Reply #1 on Mar 27, 2008, 7:38pm »
first of all, everything claiming that the death penalty costs more doesn't bother with the facts, so it's bogus. they lump in all murder cases and divide it by the number executed, which has no relevance to the subject whatsoever.
a dp trial does cost more than a non dp trial. aside from the extra investigation and expert witnesses, death penalty trials are bifurcated, and two trials cost more than one.
then, we get to the real cost. the myriad of frivolous appeals is what drives the cost up. if we did things properly, and limited it to one trip through the courts, the execution would cost less than the cost of keeping the trash locked up for ten years
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« Reply #2 on Mar 31, 2008, 2:57am »
Hello, I have read many of your post and you seem to be a very educated man and I'm glad for your insite on this and I agree with most everything you said except for two things, one I don't feel as if the dp is right, but that's just me and another whole subject. Then second I feel as if we stop the "whole" appeal process that some innocent people could be put to death. I do think that the LONG appeal process that the system has now is to much and all it does do is buy the inmates time on the taxpayer's money, but sometimes there is new evidence 10 years later and if it wasn't for appeals then those people would have been put to death for somrthing they didn't do or they really actually done something smaller. I do think that a lot of the cost for death row inmates is the cost of the appeals but what do you think about the actual cost of the exacution?
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Hello, I have read many of your post and you seem to be a very educated man and I'm glad for your insite on this and I agree with most everything you said except for two things, one I don't feel as if the dp is right, but that's just me and another whole subject. Then second I feel as if we stop the "whole" appeal process that some innocent people could be put to death. I do think that the LONG appeal process that the system has now is to much and all it does do is buy the inmates time on the taxpayer's money, but sometimes there is new evidence 10 years later and if it wasn't for appeals then those people would have been put to death for somrthing they didn't do or they really actually done something smaller. I do think that a lot of the cost for death row inmates is the cost of the appeals but what do you think about the actual cost of the exacution?
well thank you. i have been on both sides of the argument. i spent the first half of my life believing as you do. i was as adamantly anti dp as i am now pro.
the whole issue with the cost argument, as i said, is that those who try to claim that the dp costs more than lwop convolute numbers, adding irrelevant numbers and subtracting relevant numbers.
the actual cost of the execution itself would probably be a couple of grand. the li drugs for an execution in texas cost $86. then, you have to add in salary of everyone involved, and the disposal of the body. i'd say that it would be two grand tops.
at a bare minimum, though, $23,000 a year is the lowest figure that i have seen for housing a prisoner. that does NOT take into account medical care for anything other than a cold or something. a safe bet would be a MINIMUM of a million dollars over forty years. since the average cost of housing a prisoner is around $45,000, you can safely figure that for most states, it is two million to keep a fool there for forty years.
since the advent of dna, there is no reason for "new" evidence to surface ten years down the road. about the only thing that is going to come along that far down would be witnesses retracting statements or something, which is NOT new evidence. two years is plenty of time if the individual is FACTUALLY innocent.
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« Reply #4 on Mar 31, 2008, 12:29pm »
Why should cost be a factor at all? The only factor I care about -- and I think a substantial number of Americans feel similarly -- is JUSTICE.
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It was a long time coming: Netflix users in the U.S. can now reveal their viewing habits and tastes to their Facebook friends.
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Many new cyclists assume they are ready to hit the trails when they have their bike and a helmet. However, no cyclist is truly ready for the road without the proper biking clothes. AW Cycles Cycling Shop is home to a fantastic selection of cycling clothes.
Jackets are a major component of a cyclist's wardrobe. Modern jackets are extremely proficient at keeping out wind and water, while still allowing moisture to escape so that the body does not get overly warm. No rider wants to be caught in the cold or rain without a trusted jacket, and AW Cycles Cycling Shop has a great selection.
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Gloves are often overlooked, but they are a major component of a cyclist's wardrobe. The hands absorb a lot of vibration while riding, so gloves are essential to keeping blisters and sores away. The gloves also protect the hands from branches, bushes, and other shrubbery while on the trail.
If you ask an active cyclist what their most indispensable piece of biking equipment is, there is a good chance they will say their cycle glasses. Cycle eyewear has been made especially for the sport of riding, so they are going to be shaped differently than your traditional sunglasses. Try on many different pairs and choose the one that fits the shape of your face best. Lenses are available in a variety of colors, and some even come with interchangeable lenses, just in case you can't choose one color right away. Cycling eyewear is recommended to protect the eyes from the sun and other elements of the road.
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When it comes to running in any sprint race, every single second counts. Having the wrong shoes could cost you those microseconds that could mean the difference between winning everything and losing. It is therefore important to ensure you have the right racing flats or sprint spikes to avoid stacking the odds against yourself.
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Your shoe size is very important because it determines the fit of the shoes you end up selecting. Shopping when it is hottest is the best way to get the right size because this is when your feet will expand the most. An ill-fitting shoe is something that runner would do well to avoid. It may cause blisters on top of inhibiting your running ability on the track. That is sure to cost you the win you have worked hard for.
Every runner has a certain gait that determines the how they lean on their shoes. Having an analysis done on your feet will determine the gait that you have thus allowing you to get shoes that compensate for any anomalies. Since this will affect the speed with which you sprint, you should ensure you get access to the service. Anyone who gets sprint spikes from Birmingham Runner can always be assured of accessing the services when buying their shoes at the store.
Some brands have a reputation for having innovative shoes that are of high quality. These leading brands are the ones you should go for when shopping at a shoe store. Brands that have bad reputations should be avoided at all costs. These are usually responsible poor quality spring spikes with a short lifespan and high replacement costs in the long term. Getting sprint spikes from Birmingham Runner and other well-known suppliers is the best way of accessing the highest quality of running products available in the market today.
The Best Way To Train For A Half Marathon
Training for a half marathon is a largely solitary task and it is difficult to fit. It would be achieved when we have good support. Long distance running requires a different kind of health to that required to go to the physical coaching center for quite a few times a week or comfortably play a game of football. Every minute of time will be spent for training will gives the extra training. Adopting the right state of mind from the start and it will make the preparation for race day easier.
The trainer should follow a structured training schedule because it suits your level of fitness in relation to running. Set a goal for getting success and also look you how much fit you are. Try to analysed your current abilities and also select an appropriate training schedule will be easier. Training for this would be done with a combination of running days with rest days and long run days.
How to Overcome Pre-Game Nerves in Soccer
The pre-game nerves in soccer will leads you to get more tension and angry. There are many ways to overcome the pre-game nerves first thing is to remember this is one of the feeling and it is not done physically, if you practice this tip regularly in mind means you would recover half of the things. Think quietly of the situation when you feel nerves because it would create less stress and tension.
Try to check the meaning of your thoughts you will expose the illogical and un-resourceful meaning behind them. For example you may find that your thoughts will tell that you are not playing properly in the big game and also says that you always play badly in big games. Try to focus on things that you cannot control yourself such as unnecessary anxiety, stress and worry. Try to put energy on things that you can control yourself such as behavior and others.
How to Learn to Golf
When learning to swing a golf club there are several things that you must do correctly because different areas of your body need to do different things, Practice your grip so your hands can be kept in one place while swinging. Work on your stance so that you are in the most effective position to strike the ball. Lock your legs and then unlock them and bend slightly and you should bend from the hip as well.
Ensure your arms and hands dangle straight below your shoulders as it allows you to stay even with the ball and aligned with the rest of your body. Begin your backswing by moving your club upward and backward. As your golf club comes around, you should have almost all of your weight on your left foot. When you strike the ball, assume you are actually striking two balls–the real one and an imaginary ball two inches in front of the real ball.


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Reminder: Noah Project Walkathon Takes Stand Against Violence
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Updated: April 10, 2013
The goal of the walkathon is to stop domestic violence throughout Abilene and the Big Country.
Community members will gather collectively on behalf of victims of family and domestic violence.
Teams of 10 walkers are encouraged, and each team's suggested fundraising goal is $100 per walker for a total of $1,000.
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At least six people were killed and dozens were injured after a string of powerful tornadoes hit two neighborhoods in North Texas on Wednesday evening. Authorities are searching for seven missing adults in the town of Granbury, just outside of Fort Worth.
In a state where almost 40 percent of the population is Latino, you'd think an all-white city government would be a thing of the past. But Ana Reyes just made history in Farmers Branch, Texas, where she became the first Latino ever to be elected to a City Council seat, reports Fox News Latino.
Bodega. Colmado. Latin market. Whatever your preferred term is, I'm sure you have probably frequented a Latin grocery store at some point in your life.
Family Comes First
By the front counter, you will most likely see photos of the bodega owner's family members, especially of his/her kids. Photos are always a conversation piece because people always want to know about your personal business. Am I right... or am I right?
The attorneys for Ariel Castro, the 52-year-old suspect accused of kidnapping and raping three Cleveland women and holding them in captivity for nearly a decade, will plead not guilty, reports the AP. Castro was charged for four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape, for abducting Michelle Knight, Amanda Berry, and Gina DeJesus. He is currently being held on $8 million bail.
CNN's Early Start co-anchor Zoraida Sambolin has revealed that Angelina Jolie's recent story encouraged her to come forward about her battle with breast cancer. While on-air yesterday, the 47-year-old journalist said she was diagnosed with breast cancer three weeks ago and plans on having a double mastectomy.
What a tragedy. A California 12-year-old boy has been charged with second-degree murder in the killing of his 8-year-old sister.
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Ibsen Photonics develops and manufactures transmission diffraction grating components and grating-based spectrometer modules. Our grating components are used in a broad range of applications in diverse industries such as telecom, sensing, lasers and spectroscopy. Our modules are used in sensor systems and measurement applications.
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Ibsen Photonics' gratings are tailored to specific customer requirements, manufactured to very tight specifications using unique Ibsen processing technologies, and delivered only after extensive metrology and quality inspections.
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Ibsen Photonics manufactures both standard grating products and gratings that are entirely customer specified, in either case in one-off, never recurring requirements, or in continuing deliveries of high quantities. In both cases our customers enjoy our policy of always helpfull after-sales support and services to ensure the success of our customers' products.
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Ibsen was founded in 1991 under the name of Ibsen Micro Structures A/S by Per Ibsen as the principal founder. Today Per is a boardmember of Ibsen Photonics.
In the year 2000, Ibsen Microstructures was acquired by ADC Telecommunications based in Minneapolis, USA. The ownership by ADC brought to Ibsen a strong operational focus and capability. As ADC Denmark we brought telecom components through Telcordia qualifications.
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refuses to be pinned down. In another he reveals Hazlitt's obsession with plasticity. Elsewhere Seamus Heaney is shown to be a poet of absences and uncertainties. Even in Milton himself – that most marmoreal of poets – Paulin identifies dynamic processes, especially in the texture of the verse, which undermine its own pretensions to monumentality. Paulin is a good if eccentric guide to literary foibles, and these are persuasive examples. As such, they might provide the basis for a general theory though they hardly constitute one in themselves. As a card-carrying dissenter himself, Paulin might assert that the provisional nature of his remarks is precisely their value, and I would be inclined to agree with him, though I wish he couched them in less challenging terms. As befits a poet, his prose frequently moves by suggestive swoops, spirals, sideways steps, associations, non sequiturs, elisions and prolations rather than in the
predictable forward march of a tedious Whig or Tory critic. These movements can be illuminating: they can also be baffling. There are sections of this book which strike me as ridiculous: Paulin's take on 'Tintern Abbey', for example, as a commentary on French party politics. Others I simply cannot understand. But perhaps this is what you would expect from an obtuse Anglo-Saxon. That said, while Crusoe's Secret is obviously addressed to leftish intellectuals, it might be hard for conservatives to resist the old-fashioned charm of the author's assumption that most dissent comes from the Left, that it is always a Good Thing, and that every Irishman should be allowed to have things both ways. If our cousins across the water have solved the problem of how to remain rebellious while becoming part of a comfortable majority, who can blame them? To order this book at £16, see order form on page 78
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T HIS AUTUMN , WITH much fanfare, a consortium of thirty-four publishers around the world has launched a series of short books each retelling a myth. The opening salvo, published by Canongate, consists of Margaret Atwood recounting Penelope's story as she awaits the homecoming of Odysseus, Jeanette Winterson telling of Atlas, Hercules, and the Apples of the Hesperides, and Karen Armstrong providing a general introduction to the series. The next two volumes in the series, not yet published, show that the retellings will stray beyond Greek mythology; one of them centres on Samson, and the publicity blurb for the series says that its participating authors have been invited to choose any myth they like. Given that the authors include Natsuo Kirina, Su Tong and Chinua Achebe, diversity must follow. If the level of brilliance displayed by Margaret Atwood and Jeanette Winterson sets the bar for their fellow authors in the series, these latter are going to have to jump high indeed. For all their differences of style and approach, Atwood and Winterson have produced individually outstanding tours de force, surely among the best things they have written. Margaret Atwood tells her story from the point of view of a posthumous Penelope wandering in Hades' asphodel meadows. The Penelopiad (199pp £12) is told in the first person, with an intermitted commentary in verse and drama by a chorus of Penelope's women servants. These, the twelve loveliest and youngest of her maids, were hanged by her son
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made Penelope's life a nightmare during the ten years that Odysseus struggled to return home, baulked by the curse of Hera, queen of the gods. As befits the bride of the cunningly clever Odysseus, Penelope is very smart, and her observations and insights are richly penetrating. She recognises Odysseus's barrel chest and short legs when he at last arrives home, disguised as a beggar, but even then keeps her counsel so as not to betray him. Although she loves Odysseus she is not fooled by him, and Atwood cleverly gives both Penelope and the chorus a chuckle-inducing line in scepticism about Odysseus's adventures: was Circe a sorceress, or a brothel-keeper? After all, as Penelope wryly observes, it was easy enough to turn Odysseus's men into pigs. The person Penelope likes least is her cousin Helen, whose fatal self-satisfaction and inability to stop flirting sent so many men to their deaths, and kept Odysseus away from home so long. Even in Hades Helen is still at it, followed by admiring throngs of ghosts eager to see her bathe nude – and this, as Penelope tries unavailingly to point out, despite her no longer having a body. Jeanette Winterson's Weight (151pp £12), an account of how Hercules took the cosmos from Atlas's shoulders so that the latter could fetch the Golden Apples of the Hesperides for him, is a remarkable document. Hercules is a football hooligan writ large, a priapic, restless and incontinent
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thug whose impulses are to shag and kill, and who only dimly begins to think the unthinkable by questioning the decrees of the gods when he is temporarily bearing Atlas's crushing burden. In Winterson's vision of the tale Atlas is gentle and humane – at the end, just before taking a momentous decision about his fate and that of the cosmos, he rescues Laika, the dog sent up in Russia's Sputnik 2 in 1957, and keeps her safe on his shoulders. Winterson intersperses the tale with snippets of astrophysics and autobiographical asides very moving in their frankness. Astrophysics connects Atlas's story with the galaxies of the non-mythic universe, reminding us that we are in plain fact children of the stars, for the chemicals constituting us today were, aeons ago, manufactured in them. The autobiographical asides liken Winterson's own life as a twice-rejected orphan to the Atlas-like shouldering of an endless burden. Significantly, Hercules repays Atlas's favour to him not by risking the duty of carrying the cosmos on his shoulders again, but by freeing Atlas's brother Prometheus from the torture of having his liver eternally gnawed by a vulture. Is Hercules' club the writer's pen, which relieves others but not the weight of the world on one's own shoulders? After this, Karen Armstrong's essay on the nature of myth is a deep disappointment. A Short History of Myth (159pp £12) is confused, repetitive, vacuously overgeneralised and platitudinous. She begins by telling us contradictorily that myths are about another world, and about this world; are about what is sacred and apart, and proof that the ancients made no distinction between the sacred and profane; are about the transcendent and divine, and about familiar core human psychological realities. No doubt some will lamely claim that myths are about all these things at once, but they should be reminded that whatever is 'about everything' is about nothing, or at least and certainly, nothing useful. Moreover, she conflates religion and myth, although with the partial excuse that she seems to think religion is just myth. In respect of the literal falsity of both, she is right; but mythologies are so much richer and more interesting than those few that have ossified into burning-at-the-stake religions that it does myth a disservice not to recognise religion as the lesser breed. She then goes on to generalise mightily about myths in the hidden depths of prehistory, thereby talking about what by definition we know nothing of, and then in the same vastly generalising way skipping through centuries and cultures in a few pages each before fizzling out in remarks about the mythopoeic nature of (modern) fiction. As preface to the series there should have been a more focused and thoughtful account of myth and mythology than this. I am sure Karen Armstrong is both well able and well placed to provide it: but half her mind (and half her editors' minds) seems to have been far off duty here. To order these books, see order form on page 78
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I MUSTDECLARE an interest. I was employed by The Times between 1993 and 1998, and figured in the crisis which, in Graham Stewart's words, 'was to tarnish the paper's reputation across wide sections of the British public and beyond'. I had charged that from 1996, when I was its East Asia editor, the paper kowtowed to the views of the proprietor, Rupert Murdoch. Peter Stothard, the editor, denied that Murdoch had ever given him directions on any subject, including how to cover China. This disagreement led to my resignation. Stewart handles this matter fairly, although I don't agree with all his conclusions. Some might suggest that the book is already compromised because it is an official history, and its publisher is owned by Rupert Murdoch. Stewart tells us that he has written leaders for The Times: this may account for some overheated language when praising the paper's leader writers. Stewart's book should appeal to a wider audience than journalists. He knows a lot about the various sections of The Times – Leaders, Foreign, Politics, Drama, Art, Books, Letters, Chess, Court Page – and describes how, over the years, sections have expanded, diminished, shifted from place to place, vanished and reappeared. Take a terrific emergency or a 'great story' of global scope, like 9/11. Stewart describes in vivid detail how The Times hit the streets the next morning with a 26page extra section. Description, analysis, photographs, news, commentary, even a cartoon (of the world turned upside down) had been mobilised. How Murdoch acquired the paper, after some – feigned? – reluctance, is riveting, partly because it shows how flexible journalists can be if the situation changes. When William Rees-Mogg was editor of The Times he encouraged an article about Murdoch's latest foray into the American press in which Murdoch's newspapermen were described as being 'expert in plumbing the depths of bad taste which Americans had scarcely guessed at'. Soon after, Rees-Mogg approached Murdoch to save the paper from sinking further into the red. Stewart is very good on long set pieces, including an account of how, in 1986–87, Murdoch broke the strike of the print and press unions – though he traduces my then editor at The Observer, whom he accuses of doing
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Aaand I finished the Sith Iniquisitor storyline and the final fight is impossible to win solo, even at level 50. Sigh.
Like that Yoga guy said, "There is no impossible. There is only try or do not." I don't know, it was something like that.
So... back when I was subscribed I had a huge problem with constantly being underlevelled. I'd do all the solo content as a matter of course, generally none of the group comment because I don't like humans on the internet, and that plus a few space battles, pvp and guild/group instancing once in a blue moon would keep me at or a little bit behind the curve. The FTP nerf on quest experience rewards is... a bit of a bummer. I'm sort of wondering what I'll wind up doing. I can't think I'm going to want to do group quests more now that I have ftp communication limitations when I disliked it already. And grinding just seems nightmarish given the tiny XP it gives. Plus on my Empire characters I generally don't do the skeeziest "put the nerve toxin in the orphanage's water supply" quests which makes matters even worse.
Several of the restrictions go away with a single points purchase. I was actually under the impression that former subscribers were automatically premium users, but I never unsubscribed so I can't test that myself. XP rate isn't one of them, but you could theoretically buy XP boost items off the GTN I suppose.
I guess I should go pick up my free pvp gear? (I only have maxed out commendations from never spending any!)
Yeah there should be a quest (at the PVP terminal? In your mail? I forget how they send it) to get a full set of level 50 gear, or you can instead just take like 200k in credits. Either one should gear you up enough to finish the quest line I would think.
I may have to power through those last five levels to see that SI fight. As I said in the KOTOR II thread, the heroic moment, or whatever it's called, ability is basically an "I win" button if you've unlocked several class legacy abilities. They either hit hard or stun without breaking on damage. That was the strategy I used in the finale fight of Imperial Agent, chapter one. I can see how much that fight would suck without it. I've definitely struggled at times in some classes (Smuggler final fight, twice in the JK story) but I never had any problems in either Counsular or Sith Warrior. Anyone else experience this? Does it depend on build or are the classes just that unbalanced?
Well, various specs within classes are hilariously imbalanced, so there's that. For this sort of comparison you have to factor in A: Build B: Gear C: Companion D: Companion's Gear E: Player skill with their build (it's trivially easy to get good results with pyro powertech. It's really hard to get good results with dps assassin since they have like 11 buttons and need to monitor 2 dots). Hard to draw a firm conclusion. I'd guess it's a matter of boss imbalance, but that's just a guess.
I didn't have even a tiny bit of trouble with the final SI fight, Lum sux at games. (My manquisitor is a tank assassin, it is REALLY hard to kill him.)
I don't know if it's changed since about 1.3, but back then tank shadow/assassin were crazy good at 50.
Yeah, and I wasn't a tank assassin, so neener. (However, after grabbing the free PvP gear and going from roughly 950 to 1100 in endurance and willpower, the fight went from impossible to trivial. Go go stats!) So now I have a new Jedi Counselor I'll level up to be an assassin. He doesn't seem to be very good at the entire Jedi thing, and no one has noticed that he's literally a Sith -- red skin, glowy eyes, face tentacles... clearly the Jedi aren't even trying any more.
What was the spec that assassins used to be all like HURRRRRR in PVP and just spike you to death with 3000 DPS casts?
They could do that too, but I distinctly recall being killed in under 4 seconds by people wielding dual-bladed lightsabers also. This was with nearly full PVP gear on--not the top-of-the-line stuff but the next one down from that, which I think was fairly standard for those days.
SWTOR is still my mistress MMO, admittedly Mists has got me focused on WoW again so I haven't spent much time there lately. I'm kind of flabbergasted when people say the IA story is good, though. When does it start getting good? Maybe it's because my expectations were built up by everyone saying how great it is, but it's a predictable snoozefest so far. Granted, I'm not really into the whole secret-agent thing either. I remember she just finished getting the bug companion (what the heck is that about, too?). On the contrary, everyone says Trooper is awful, yet the quest at the end of Act 2 was the most fun I've had in SWTOR thus far. I feel like it was the best use of companions and I got to do a lot of what I love most about being a Trooper: blowing stuff up.
Have you made it to Chapter 2 in the Agent story yet? I liked both the Prologue and Chapter 1, but Chapter 2 takes the Agent story to the next level.
I started the game with a BH, and my brother played an Agent. Got bored of the BH story pretty quick and went back a couple months ago to start an Agent. So much more fun to play than the BH, though the BH had some cool skills.
Right. So from that perspective the story gets "better," but I like it without the twists and turns. I like that it is an attempt to tell a character-driven political story in the midst of a space opera. It asks how a group of mostly ordinary, non-superpowered people would get on in a galaxy populated by knights and evil space wizards.
So we are playing in a foursome with two friends. We have all sort of decided to be as douchey as possible, although not necessarily dark side. My (male) consular has wound up being the most hilariously insufferable I-am-always-right-when-will-you-assholes-learn Jedi ever. He's light side, but SUCH a dick about it. <3 I'm not sure I'm actually King Douchebag of the group, the others might feel otherwise, but I have never played someone so blatantly rude before. It's made the consular story more interesting, at least. :P
You're basically the Jedi version of Winchester from M.A.S.H. EDIT: Actually, REALLY you're Young Master Vrook.
So hey, I just dipped my toe into this for the first time and I'm surprised to find myself enjoying it after vowing to never touch WoW again over a year ago. It's fun to listen to the female smuggler talk and I will never get tired of running up behind evil jedi and booting them right in the jibblies. The F2P sure is dumb, though. I paid for a month in advance since I figured I'd get 20 francs of time out of it and that seems to have been the right option since pretty much every tutorial is "This is how things work, except it sucks 25% more for F2P players". Also, I'm pretty much the only player character with green skin in the level 1-20 range, which is good for making me feel like a special snowflake but it blows my mind that they didn't include race/looks costumization in the cartel. In fact, there's absolutely nothing in the cartel that I want to buy with the 500 coins they gave me. How about an option to change your legacy name? Because I threw in the first thing I could think of just so I could actually see the menu and figure out what the legacy thing even is, probably like many other players. It's good to see that there's a flashpoint queue but unless there's some option I'm missing, it always just queues me up for all flashpoints in my range. I'm pretty sick of Hammer Station and want to do more Athiss (it has more evil jedi to kick in the junk). There's no way to do that beyond assembling a group yourself, is there?
In fact, you can unlock individual race options for 600 CC each within your Legacy, but you have to create a character and get to the end of Chapter 1 to see it. I agree it would be a terrific thing to allow at character creation, but I guess it's intended as a subscriber incentive. Incidentally, I always wondered what the point of unlocking "Human" was in the Legacy. Normally, getting to 50 in a race opens that race for all classes in both factions, while Humans can be anything from the start. Turns out Humans have a different unlock: +100 Presence for all characters. Almost makes me regret being so thoroughly pro-alien.
I have started playing this again. JK (47) and Trooper (34). Is anyone on Begeren Colony? Have found no one willing to help with Heroics in the upper tiers. I'm considering jumping to another server, but I have sooo much invested in crew skills on Begeren; not to mention mah character names. So, where are all the cool kids?
Legacy unlocks at level 10 now I am pretty sure. Also that +100 Presence bonus is amazing on subsequent characters.
Legacy does unlock at level 10 now. And presence hijinx are hilarious. Ingmar and I are a roving death machine, especially at lower levels, in a duo because of it.
That's not quite what I meant though. I was talking about post-creation race change, like WoW offers. I'm sure there are many people who start out F2P, subscribe after ten or so levels and then end up kinda wishing they weren't human like 99% of the early zone population. It's money left on the table, which kinda surprised me considering how aggressive the rest of the cartel monetization is.
I am 99% sure they're working on that stuff, along with paid server transfers and extra character slots. They're just not caught up with those kind of features, probably because of the semi-sudden swerve into F2P and the loss of a bunch of important people via layoffs.
Responding late to this, but I'm leveling up a DPS spec Guardian (currently level 45), and the number of buttons I need to press isn't significantly higher than other classes I've played. The Guardian rotation is seven abilities: 1. Sundering Strike 2. Master Strike 3. Plasma Brand 4. Overhead Slash 5. Blade Storm 6. Strike 7. Dispatch (Execute ability only usable when target <30% HP remaining) For comparison, I've played Gunslinger DPS extensively. Both the Sharpshooter tree and the Dirty Fighting tree have an equal or greater number of abilities in their main rotation: Sharpshooter: 1. Speed Shot 2. Aimed Shot 3. Trickshot 4. Charged Burst 5. Vital Shot 6. Flurry of Bolts 7. Quickdraw (<30% Execute) Dirty Fighting: 1. Shrap Bomb 2. Vital Shot 3. Hemorrhagging Blast 4. Wounding Shots 5. Speed Shot 6. Aimed Shot 7. Flurry of Bolts 8. Quickdraw (<30% Execute) Maybe it's different for Sentinels/Marauders, but I'm not seeing how DPS Guardian/Juggernaut is any more button-heavy than some other specs.
I probably use the most buttons on my Sniper, as she is heavily focused on dot. The only thing that saves me is the floating cover toolbar, otherwise it would be rough between in/out of cover and melee/ranged attacks.
See I use a lot more then that on my Def speced Jug I start off by useing Force Leap then the "Hit target while it's Movement is impared" ability. Then use the PBAOE AOE attack Then after the "hit target while movement is impared" has cooled down, I use Force Push then leap and use it again. (those are base abiliteis I believe so no reason not to be used by DPS spec?) There's also force choke and pomel strike to work into the mix (pomel strike is from the def line, but choke is base class) You aslo have the PBAOE Fear. There's also the taunts plus the "You heal a slight amount while reducing threat while active" ability. It looks like you're choosing not to use them as opposed to not having them. (unless there's some reason for not using them) There's other situational abilities that I usualy don't work into the mix that I'm sure I'm forgetting (for instance, I hardly ever use the "Only damages impaired weak/strong mobs" ability)
No, I sometimes use those abilities too, but they're situational, not part of the main rotation. I have at least a dozen situational abilities on my Gunslinger I also use. In any case, I really haven't found JK to be more button-heavy than any other class I've played.


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Just my opinion but:
1. Daemons--Almost everything is still horrifically undercosted and they're immune to way too much, e.g. if I try to make use of enhanced Fear and Ethereal units to bolster my VC army they just laugh and I've just wasted points; their free access to magic and Loremaster is also dumb; have some of the most powerful SCs around whilst the majority of armies have no SCs worth taking
2. Dark Elves--Ridiculous shooting, ridiculous magic, extremely good combat without needing to take any exceptionally large units due to multiple attacks everywhere and generally striking first with Hatred, arguably the best Scouting Skirmishers and the best Monster in the game (for its cost), plus enormous synergy with Lore of Shadow and Cauldron buffs, not to mention all the potential Pendant of Skill nastiness
3. Lizardmen--Own the magic phase, which is a pretty big deal, and generally have very good stuff elsewhere, though internal balance is far from great; Chameleons are another contender for best Scouting Skirmishers in the game, and Saurus are a very, very solid if not eye-popping Core unit
4. Skaven--Have their bad matchups, which is why I place them here, but still can present most armies with an uphill fight from Turn 1 due to hugely outnumbering anything else whilst having plenty of units to maneuver for advantage, a terrifying Monster, decent war machines, Gutter Runners being the last contender for best Scout Skirmishers, and between their Ld rules and Steadfast turn what was apparently intended to be an unreliable army into one of the most, well, steadfast in morale terms. Vulnerable to all of their little toys like the Doom Rocket failing to work, but devastating when they all do happen to work. The cherry on top is amazing magic with a spell that can easily turn bunkers or diminished elite units into rats with little risk to Grey Seer casters who get IF/miscasts, and the rest of their Lores being quite strong, too.
5. Ogres--Supreme in combat, even against the likes of WoC, and have good shooting to back that up, whereas WoC do not, and are overall faster than other combat armies to boot. I need not mention Mournfangs being kind of busted but I'll go ahead and do so. Firebelly is one of the best utility characters around and Hellheart is one of the scarier of the 8th Ed. magic items.
I can't bring myself to put Warriors on this list when Ogres can now do pretty much everything that they can do, sometimes better, plus plenty that they cannot given their cannons and Leadbelchers providing very respectable shooting while the Hellcannon is probably the most consistently overrated thing in the entire game. Warriors are great in combat ... and that's all. They're too one-dimensional and I don't think they're markedly better than most of the 8th Ed. books due to that.
EDIT: To be fair WoC have very respectable magic, but their claim to fame in that area derives mainly from, IMO, Infernal Puppet on the one hand and their wizards being harder to kill than most on the other. However, the latter advantage is not going to result in them having any sort of Magic Phase supremacy nine times out of ten, as it's only advantageous when the enemy Level 4 dies and theirs does not--and most players will very adequately protect their Level 4 to the point where this isn't such a big deal. Infernal Puppet is amazing but I can't honestly say it's better or even as good as some of the magic tricks that multiple other armies on this list can pull, so again I don't think it's giving them a high place in any ranking of magic capability in a world of Slaan disciplines, HE/DE power dice manipulation/Book of Hoeth (or unkillable wizards if they want to go that route and really trump the survivability of WoC wizards), Grey Seers with Warpstone tokens and Skalm, Hellheart, etc.
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Originally Posted by Memnos
1. Skaven
2. Dark Elves
3. Daemons
4. Warriors of Chaos
5. Ogre Kingdoms
I'd like to know in what universe WoC "counter" DE. If you look at base stats, sure, but in practice DE will just either Wither and shoot things to death, win combats by virtue of Cauldron buffs and hexes alone, or Skillrazor WoC units off the table in one round. Failing any of that, DE are also excellent at avoiding combat when the need arises.
IMO DE counter WoC rather than the other way around.
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Well if you didn't bother to write a list then clearly there isn't one and everything is equal.
Or, you simply don't know as much about the game as you think. Guess we'll never know...
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Eye of the Gods and Warshrines basically buff Warriors into superiority without having to bother dipping into the magic phase and there is not a lot you can do about it. They can also hex or magic nuke you right back, and much more safely with Puppet while making the DE magic phase more perilous (although SDagger vies for parity there). A hit from a hellcannon will pretty much take a unit off the board, and is still a nasty monster to boot. WoC are easily as good as DE if set up like that, ther is a ggod eason the word Chosenstar comes up a lot when describing least favourite units.
* o noes, it be 'le chosenstar du la doom!' *
* dreadlord charges in, cackling like crazy *
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*shrug* meh, you'll never get points out of either of them, and the dreadlord will likey go down eventually. Its as good a tactic as you'll get against them I guess without just trying to avoid the unit. But it comes down to drawing the warrior unit or the warrior unit wins more often that actually ever beating them.
I can't see why daemons are rated top tier by so many people. Is it the fateweaver build? Please explain what build you're talking about. Same for dwarves. They can be good, but top tier? Nope. They are are more drawish than winning, though they don't usually lose badly either (in my experience).
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Essentially, Daemons do everything far too well for far too few points, and on top of that they have an incredible synergy within the book. Access to Loremaster for example, even on a level 2, for 140pts is utterly absurd. It gives them a far more efficient magic phase than most other races can get for half the points.
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I met yesterday with my small group of Meeker Courtyard Naturalists for an hour after school. After some instruction on how to take field notes, we went outside and walked around the building.
We spotted a bird on a utility wire near the trash dumpster, singing beautifully. I knew it was a male House Finch, but I withheld that info so the students would focus on describing the bird, taking notes, etc.
It soon flew to the roof of the school, perching on the rain gutter. It allowed us to approach fairly closely and we got good looks at it. As we moved toward the northwest corner of the building it flew toward one of the birch trees at the front of the building, and a second bird joined it there. We had difficulty locating the second bird, and were unable to get a description of it (I presume it was a female House Finch). Soon, the male flew back to its previous position on the gutter and started singing again.
We went back toward it again, and soon heard soft "peeping" coming from one of the tall evergreen shrubs. Turns out the House Finches are raising a family.
We soon returned to the classroom, and the students were able to use a field guide to correctly identify our bird. I was very excited for them!
This group sounds like it's right up my alley! I believe in the principles set forth in the group information statement. Eventually I would like to share some of my previous attempts in this area, some successful, some not!
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