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Initially, the care felt tight and smooth, but gradually over time, it loosened off and ultimately, after three years had quite a few rattles, especially with the condition or the roads, which seem to be full of potholes. Having said this, the noise was nothing exceptional and we have owned new cars which were worse from day one!
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In the three years and 30,000 miles we've had the first Yeti, reliability has been second to none, although missing guards on the rear wings necessitated a respray under warranty due to paint chipping.
Having owned this car since December 2011 I have mixed reviews, on the plus side very comfortable driving position perky engine and economical could do with a 6th gear for motorway driving. Disappointed with the ride quality very unsettled over all types of surfaces, quite a few cabin rattles vibration coming through the peddles. The most alarming problem I have with this car is the paintwork , I have counted nine stone chips already on the bonnet and on the drivers and rear passengers doors,wish I had gone for the Hyundai ix35 now.
Bought this car after owning a C-max. Did look at Ford Kuga which looks fantastic on the outside but was like sitting in a C-max - the wife couldn't tell the difference. Also VW Tiguan - too expensive and the Freelander - too big. The Yeti is just about perfect in size, its not too big to be branded a full blown, fuel burning 4x4. The outside is a little bit boxy (postman pat style) but you drive the car from the inside. Its got all the latest mod-cons, although I would have liked a sunroof. Driving it is a pleasure and I don't get tired on long journeys. My only complaint if any, is that the bonnet is a little light and because you can see it from the cockpit you can see it vibrate, I kept thinking the latch was up for the first month or so. It might just be the shiny colour and the reflections cos the bonnet certainly feels sturdy when stood still. The engine is strong, and feels even better after its first 18k mile service. Long journey MPG can reach high 50's if cruising. Average 48mpg to work and back on A roads at 40-50mph. Total average with some town driving is 44mpg. I tend to stick between 1000 and 2500rpm but every month or so I drive home in a low gear the clear the soot out. Cetainly feels better after. Problems encounterd:- Xenon lights not working together - control unit change Bluetooth unit changed TWICE ??? Skoda dealer very slow to respond, weeks to get a booking slot. Summer tyres shocking in the snow, trying all-season tyres this
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Failed five times and needed to be towed in to dealers twice. Two breakdowns caused by defective immobiliser. Diesel pump failed after only 200 miles, supplying dealer tried to blame me for misfuelling (they filled the car). During ownership engine consumed a litre of oil every 1000 miles, that adds about £8 to the cost of each tank of fuel. Vast numbers of niggly faults, especially with electrics, we had five door mirror switches. I became resigned to the headlamp washers never working.
Very poor ride, rear seat passengers complained of nausea after about 10 miles, car bounces and wallows on all but smoothest of road surfaces. Engine delivers luke-warm performance but is rough and noisy, especially at normal dual carriageway speeds, add this to too much wind and tyre noise to make this car especially tiresome on journeys.
Practicality no better than OK, strange seat arrangement just adds to the cabin rattles and the reality is that with four passengers the boot is too small for their luggage, especially if you have the (essential) spare wheel.
Dealers unable to comprehend real costs to business of unreliability and the constant failure to fix things first time. Half a day labour to replace a bulb is plain madness!
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Shiv, I have been converted. And I take back all that I said about the Tejas. This is the reason,http://www.orfonline.org/cms/sites/orfonline/modules/analysis/AnalysisDetail.html?cmaid=20937&mmacmaid=20938
And it surely is not a three legged cheetah, but the pride of India, no matter what. I would not have said anything bad about the Tejas if I had read something like this, so powerful, convincing(the link). - 4:43 AM
- Aditya said...
To be fair, that is a fairly accurate assessment of the LCA... tons of potential in the design, but it's hit puberty too late, and doesn't look like it'll mature for another 7 years at least.
I did not understand what the writer is getting at. He starts by describing the importance of the drop tank jettison test, offers a survey of the Tejas development and then ends with a statement on the lack of thrust in the current engine. Is there anything here we do not know? What is the point?
air force ke log bhi to frustration utarte hain
Very interesting person- Air Marshall Bhatia.
If you read a few articles he has penned in SP's Aviation-he has been a consistent critic of the LCA (prolonged development, needing more development budgets that originally planned,lack of 100 KN engine etc). Surprisingly,the only other developing platform he comments on (the F-35), he is supportive of the similar problems (development budget stretching beyond original estimate, missed timelines, cost per plane ballooning) the F-35 is facing. Link below
Why this apparent double standard? If the Tejas is totally hopeless, worthless & a lemon-i can understand it. However, The test pilots of the Tejas praise it and place it as a better plane to fly than the Mirage, leave the Mig-21 which it has to replace. However, the IAF top brass are very critical of the Tejas. What gives?
Shiv-Any thoughts here? Why do the IAF top brass continuously bash the Tejas, while no negative publicity has come out of the Tejas test pilots (in effect the end users, since the test pilots are from IAF).
Tats - 7:54 AM
shiv any newz about mig 29 upgrading that how far it has reached????
1983 conceptualized...wish he had mentioned the time when funding had begun too
(maybe the time out parents started thinking about our baby should be quoted as birth date!!!)
somehow managed the CLAW...hmm..that would suggest that the CLAW is something that barely meets the requirements.(which in itself is a great deal...hey but nobody here says anything about the tejas) and of course lets leave out that the team was booted out of LM and not even allowed to take back the equipment they brought to test there and had to redo a lot!!![there is this pilot who said tejas was easier to operate than the mirage...but then thats probably a rumor cooked up by fan boys ] - 9:15 AM
The Honorable Air Marshall would probably agree that three legs are better than borrowed legs !
AND You Mr BHATIA are a BRAINLESS PIG
You must be kicked in your teeth - 9:44 AM
- AK said...
I am amazed at the constant bitching of these IAF guys. What were they doing since the last 20 years when all these problems were being worked on. Weren't they supposed to be the partner to ADA as they work through the development process. Their condescending attitude has led to the current sorry state of affairs at IAF and it doesn't seem to be getting any better with time. IAF really should be a part of the solution not the part of the problem.
Am not an expert.But,just going on the face of it,the Block 30 F-16 at empty weighs 8.5 tonnes and its F410 engine gives a dry thrust of 76 Kn on afterburner max of 127.The Tejas at empty weighs in presently at 5.6 tonnes.The F404 IN gives 53.9 Kn at dry and 85Kn max afterburner.
SO is the LCA that bad? - 10:53 AM
- Mirza said...
Shiv what you think after all you are a expert defense reporter now.
Don't post anything else purely your article. - 11:53 AM
The naked truth please:
The reason I read this blog because i want the true picture of defence projects. But for tejas i am still in dark.
@Mod, not giving his final take on Tejas.
Some say it is the best and there is lot of scope for improvement
Some say it is a flying coffin due to very less max speed, and less continuous fly time (only 45 mins?)
I need claification from the author of this blog and not the constant fight in the comments section. If i can . - 12:01 PM
The red theme on the blog is too loud! Can we go back to the blue one which was there before? Or even the black one before that!?
Shiv - what is your intention behind the post esp the title? Original article talks about LCA Clearing drop tank jettison test. If you are cut and pasting, why not use the same title? why are you adding your own masala?
What is it in the culture of the IAF that they cannot write a paragraph or say a few words without being critical of domestic efforts.
What would you call an air force which mainly imports whatever is available in the international market - 'A hyena on crutches' - 1:03 PM
Looks like 'fratricide' is OK for Air Force guys. The day is not far off when Air Force activities are criticised by all and sundry.
Anyway LCA is humble three legged autorickshaw onlee. Atleast it gets us humble yindoos home.
We had Marut HF-24 so its not a big deal as we have now dollors and we can built lot of adarsh societies for each foriegn procurments
Some retired Air Force gentlemen are worried because the Tejas threatens their food chain.
This part always sticks out.
F404 84kN falls short of the Air Staff Requirement.
Then there was the Air Chief who said it will be as good as the grippen when it matures.
Now on thing, people who keep pointing out that Tajes has a borrowed engine and ( I know Kaveri is late).
But what is Grippen using F414 , oh made in Sweden?
Euro fighter euro jet, i guess they are a consortium of a few countries and still struggling in trenches.
China JF-17 what engines are they using? Oh they can reverse engineer and no one would care, probably that is the credit.
And then, ASR of 100kN were they sleeping all the while and well Air force knows better and it's good to know LCA will get a engine that comes close to this.
Which also means there aren't many in the world who uses that high thrust engine for their fighters and atleast a light fighter, which it set out to replace the Mig-21.
Where are these requirements coming from, now don't blame the design outright, people need to know what has been achieved is by no means a small thing to look over.
Funding, yeah, anyone for what 560 crore was meant for :)
Did they want all those 10 aircraft in 560 crore after spending for research and development.
What on earth do people meant it started with a budget of 560 crore can someone stop now!
Sounds so supid on the part of the authors to say that.
It might be better to just say it's cost us 6000 crore to get here.
Then atleast the one who just read and take the word for it have the chance to think okay how much do others spend.
For people who just starts discussions, LCA eperts say it was meant to cost just 560 crore , sounds so lame.
So I'm not lashing out at anyone here, these are the thoughts and a general perspective.
Start thinking! - 4:03 PM
When we develop our own radar and engine and integrate it with the Tejas ....we will have something to be proud of.
Till then we'll have something for the airshows. - 4:16 PM
@ ArkAngel
and the way to develop those are to sit on our butts , close existing projects and not sanction new ones - 5:01 PM
For these traitors, foreign equipment like the Gripen qualify as a full fledged Cheetah (even with imported engine and radar).
I get better picture what is wrong with IAF now.
"Further improvements in its stealth components could elevate this wonderful 4th generation fighter to the 5th generation club in the future. "
Is this really possible? What happens if we upgrade the Su-30MKI as well? We could replace the metal parts with composites and add a little stealth shaping to it. Will it be 6th generation? That would be even better than the F-22! - 9:25 PM
- Abhid-d said...
"Ghar ki murgee, daal barabar" is what Air Marshal Bhatia symbolizes.
Forget that he's got some basic facts totally wrong. Forget that he doesn't know the Tejas' timelines at all (which are publicly available). What is astounding is that IAF Air Chiefs and Air Marshalls are hell-bent on writing articles denouncing the Tejas.
I haven't read a single article by a PAF Air Marshall, criticizing their rather primitive JF-17. They know its entirely Made in China. They know its not an F-16. But its their own. And they are proud of it.
Unfortunately in India, we have people like AM Naik, Air Marshal Bhatia, Rajat Pandit and Praful Bidwai, who have such low self-esteem, that they can't feel proud of anything made by India.
Let bygones like Bhatia, A M Naik & Rajat Pandit be bygones. Just celebrate the Tejas' achievements. - 9:48 PM
- rajiv said...
LCA will get better engine and Radar in near future. But this is not reason why IAF is unhappy. Genius who wrote this article if could point us that then the article would have been worth reading otherwise it just a waste of time for us.
Shiv what was the need to post this kind of stuff,whole world know this. - 11:35 PM
The domestic development efforts have to continue unabated despite attempts by vested interests to derail the same. It is very difficult to tell who is on the payroll of foreign governments and equipment sellers.
The role of the GoI becomes all important. Research funding should never be curtailed.
Private sector should be used wherever possible, particularly in production of completed weapon systems as they are not hampered by the cumbersome procurement procedures of the government sector. - 12:01 AM
Jesus...what did you expect??
A 3:d generation aerodynamic design...copied features..20 years developing (with all the lane changes during the project). And this done by one of the poorest countrys in the world where the government can't provide clean water to the citizens...poverty...new born girls considered as second hand humans...give me a break...If you don't focus on other national needs more important than designing an Indian fighter jet...then..well....
Face it...the Tejas mkI is something between a G3 and G4...be proud of it..not bad for a "first" seious attempt. - 2:40 AM
I doubt any one in IAF have 0.0000001% of understanding or knowledge of design, development, manufacture or R&D in aircraft. All I have learnt from my close sources and media, the bunch of buffoons, wake up one day and flip through defense magazines and write their needs for god knows what. In my view the defense personals have no sense of how to develop the weapons in India by Indians.
All the defense force personal have learnt is think of an instant recipe for weapons, look in magazines, do some give and take of money for the weapons. These bunch of guys, guarding the indian space, have no idea about how to develop a technology in given possible time and finance.
May be they have to be taught A,...,Z about technology development and also know Why the F should any nation sell or share the technology developed over years.
Hey, guys when you point a fingure at others, the other four points at you.
One should learn before he/she shouts bad mouth at others, technology development of any kind is not for soft hearted or impatient.
Furthermore, project management or scientific genious do not go hand in hand as management looks to completion of project, where as the scientist tries to create excellent technology. To achieve success in development of product, a marriage between the two is very important. - 5:14 AM
Indians have become fantastic flagellants with their innate desire for foreign stuff that they are willing to run down and degrade any indigenous effort.
What we fail to realize is that the indigenous LCA effort has pushed aeronautical engineering and related industries to a scale that was not present in India for decades.
With the LCA Indian scientists and engineers have proven that India has the required expertise to design and manufacture future state of the art aircraft without much foreign assistance.
No other country and its media has the obnoxious record of demeaning indigenous effort as India has done with regards to every Indian effort to be self-sufficient. Glaring examples are the vitriolic tirade against the Arjun, Akash missiles and the LCA just to name a few.
This onslaught against desi effort is being orchestrated by people with vested interest from the Armed forces, politicians, agents of foreign defense suppliers and the ill-informed.
The above miscreants would have been sent to the gulag or shot in China where whatever produced from toys to aircrafts are supposed to be the best in the world.
If these pseudo patriots are to be believed India should not be self-sufficient but pay outsiders our hard earned money to keep their industries making money at our expense. - 8:22 AM
Dear Friends,
May i recommend that you all read the article by Adm Arun Prakash, on the Tejas - a link to which exists on this blog. For info - the author is a test pilot and with far more intellect and competence than credited for in our media.
I feel his assessment is by far one of the best yet to emerge.
Lets contribute to making the project a bigger success than what it is today. - 11:44 AM
The IAF brass knock the LCA because there's no "baksheesh" in it for them. I've had experience designing multiply redundant FCS's and multi-sensor fusion systems. The IAF has no knowledge of a/c or systems design. It appears that ASR's are derived from the glossy and grossly hyped brochures of foreign vendors, rather than any detailed analysis by the IAF.
The LCA's FCS is world class by any standard. I've personally seen the same IAF and Indian MoD personnal who go around criticising the LCA demean themselves in front of foreign vendors of much inferior a/c by asking for cheap little trinkets like pens and flight jackets/wind cheaters with the pictures of the product and manufacturer emblems embalzoned on them, to give to their brats,relatives, and friends.
About ACM Nayak's and his cheap comments at the IOC function, he should pay more attention to his embarrassing paunch rather than heaping unnecessary criticism on the LCA. He's a third-rate tactician and from what I gather had a most un-distinguished record as a fighter pilot and a combat leader.
The IAF and the IA has a lot to learn from the IN. Adm. Arun Prakash (a former test pilot) has recently given a balanced and sensible assessment of the LCA. I doubt whether ACM Nayak could write 4 paragraphs of sensible and credible analysis justifying his derogartory comments about the LCA! - 2:53 PM
There are projects where I am vital played to the design and development of complex self learning systems. The software uses procedure to learn and update the knowledge of machine and a modified version is currently used on Prototype UCAV.
The IAF may read user level properties of this modern UCAV in five years. May be the babus and phantar politicians and armed force officials shout in media, we need the new recipe. The politicians, babus and Armed force personals will look for foreign product, why do not we Indians look for foreign politicians, babis and armed force personals? - 5:06 PM
these natasha fed generals are always against any thing remotily Indian because it will dry up their $$ from arms syndicate you can see the pattern in LCA and Arjun saga . - 5:12 PM
please just check annual budget of P&W, Eurojet,and GE and total budget of GTRE and we expect that GTRE to produce worldbeater engine on these crumbs.I dont know why these ACM raised their voice then instead of wagging tails. - 5:18 PM
you are Indian or you have also joined these generals who sold their integrity ,pride and loyalty to forgeiners. pls post more positive news - 5:27 PM
Did you mean AM Naik or PV Naik? - 5:56 PM
Now we've turned a full circle.
IAF blames HAL.
HAL blames IAF.
God help us if you're both right and we are to be defended by fools in planes built by idiots - 7:00 PM
I have three takeaways from this gratuitous bashing of the Tejas:
1. Air Marshal (Retd.) Bhatia is either incompetent, a liar or very possibly both. This article reeks of intellectual dishonesty . He deliberately glosses over the very real accomplishments of the Tejas program including CLAW and instead focuses on the radar and engine, conveniently ignoring the fact that even the IAF's much beloved Grippen flies with a GE F-414 engine and Italian Selex radar.
2. I have worked for and have led major technical projects over the course of my career, and based on what has been achieved by ADA, can confidently assert that they have pulled off a major feat of engineering with the Tejas. (The jury is still out on the GTRE though). Regardless I have yet to see any qualifications of Tejas related trash talk by Mr. Aroor, who instead just pastes this crud on his blog in the manner of a sarkari babu.
3. Regrettably, Shiv seems to be stooping to cheap sensationalism (the "three legged cheetah" headline) to garner publicity for his blog. - 7:16 PM
- Manish Mishra said...
you are being too cynical mister aroor...try posting something worth, you journo's know nothing about uncertainty a designer faces...you don't even have a hint...
and then you say you love tejas...why don't you put up a comparison of other planes developed by other nations, time spans and everthing...
what a baffoon you are...IAF, arnt they too 2 be blamed, are they wanna be obslete paf, in case of sanction...what a crap, try posting something better from old magazines you pick up... - 9:49 PM
The reason JF-17 has not been criticised by PAF is because it has surpassed their requirements. It's more manoverable than the F-16's they have. Its radar performance compares with their f-16 Blk 52+. If you look at its show in Zhaui...you will realise it is a formidable fighter. Oh it will only get better, with composite coming in BlkII, IRST....it will in the next 2-3 years be the best aircraft in PAF inventory. It has been designed to match against the SU-27/30 in PLAAF. Infacts PAF are so happy that they are beginning to think they don't need even the J-10 anymore...oh and its 1/2 the price of LCA. They are already making 50 of the aircraft at home cost wise...this will rise to almost 80 percent. Before you dis it, it has already been pushing the envelope at 9g. With HMS and 5th WVR, good BVRs (considering the way china is developing tech), PAF have found the answer to guarding their air against the IAF at a fraction of the cost.
While we need not needlessly trash the JF-17,as far as pakis are concerned lets remember that they NEVER criticize their forces.The way the military dominates their society,it being seen as Pakistan's only working institution and guardian of Pakistan, even appearing to be infallible cannot be allowed.The truth may go to hell.If your read their version of History,the Pak forces have never lost to India and whatever reverses they had was due to 'external' influences and not due to any effort by India.
Additionally the PAF do NOT criticize the JF-17 because they have NO choice.The JF-17 has been developed at 'friendship' prices and with long term Chinese financing.The Pakis would love to have western aircraft.The PAF always had a dominance of western types and it was seen essential to have them to have a qualitative edge over the IAF,which primarily had soviet/Russian origin aircraft.
The Chinese still have not reached that level of cutting edge in many critical areas.Whatever your efforts,duplicating the expertise and experience of decades of western and even Russian manufacturers is not easy.The problem PAF has is of money.The USA will gift/supply only as per its own goals.The Europeans and others want money,lots of it.So PAF has to stick to the JF-17 regardless.Nevertheless,it cannot be denied that is an asset which must be countered.Though it still cannot be called a game changer in an extensive sense. - 10:30 AM
Anonymous @5:06 PM: WRT your statement "The software uses procedure to learn and update the knowledge of machine...", its actually a rule based expert system. These aren't transferred by the have's to the have not's for love or money.
The finest feature of the JF-17 is that it is cheap agile BVR capability already in service that fits the requirement of a "Light Combat Aircraft" sufficiently.
@ Mpatel
JF-17s better than f16s??thats new...
Its radar is still not finalized (wiki)and is to be upgraded soon
50 to upgraded @ some 1.36 billion $(radar n weaponry) thats 25+mil per a/c....that would push the cost to ~40mil per a/c(present cost is 15 mil as per wiki)
pushing 9g eh...i doubt it..as most anti g suited pilots black out around that.... - 7:25 PM
I do not think it is any way correct to degrade something or others based on arrogance and not facts. LCA, JF17... They are both good (enough) and if you all wanna make something like JSF and F22 without errors... Please do.It is so easy to be out of the project and solve everything. I should skip reading these kind of comments. Instead of being proud of what is achieved and talk about facts these posters missed even watching in the mirror.
Hey Shiv,
you have good contacts , opportunities, information, what's this with sensationalist attitude.
I understand you work with Headlines Today, but this is your blog , why not be true to yourself.
You think anyone who was live on the press meet on Tejas IOC wouldn't make out the facts, When will this stop.
And the color now, it used to look good for the blog, the Red looks lame, looks like that site that started saying about the Israel ban on Radar for Tejas.
And you don't comeback and comment back on comments, what are you looking for.
When will we see the Shiv we love.
Yeah a bit Frustrated. - 11:09 PM
We had Marut HF-24 so its not a big deal as we have now dollors and we can built lot of adarsh societies for each foriegn procurments
Stupid comments, without knowing how the Babus and politicians who are the proverbials monkeis deciding on the shares of the loot made the fast bucks much above the standards of DRDO. Is DRDO accontable like the three Sevices?
The answer is NO.
So who is who? - 12:29 AM
- satbir said...
IAF officer made a statement at tejas IOC that it is not 4gen yet. Isnt the 1st two batch of Su-30 just those basic 30's. Only from third batch we got MKI standard aircraft and then the 1st two batch were upgraded to MKI standard. Note 1st batch has inferior engine. Today Tejas is been criticized later it will be our pride.
- satbir said...
Chinese going for Jf-17 instead of J-10??? wat a joke. Chinese are not going to buy jf-17, y will they Jf-17 is made for 3rd world. Chinese are having problems with J-10 which they want to skip for J-11 which is a copy of Su-27 which is also having problem.
Radar, sensors for Jf-17 is still not finalized and PAF say it is oprational.. hehe
Most funny part JF-17 carry most of it sensers on its Hardpoint(like Infra-red pod, laser pod, protection suite pod) unlike Tajes which carry most internally only Lightning pod externally. Remember JF-17 have only 7 hardpoint of which only 2 will be available for bombs. This is because Paki delinked avionics and Airframe development process to develope Jf quickly. - 9:59 PM
Ok, one candid article about the unnecessarily maligned Kaveri engine is K Prasad garu's 2009 Kaveri report - http://forums.bharat-rakshak.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5719&start=80. GTRE director, T. Mohan Rao, pointed out that the change in IAF requirements and the increase in all up wt by 2 tons killed the Kaveri as they knew it, simply because it could not in any way be able to achieve the new requirements. This bad mismatch of LCA/Kaveri is then squarely IAF's fault!
When asked where we lack, he mentioned 4 key areas
a. BLISK - integrated single Blade and Disk
b. Single Crystal blades - he categorically said - We do not have that tech at all.
c. Thermal Barrier Coatings - TBC - very critical for high temp engine operation.
As this is highly critical and export controlled, so they dont have it.
Mohan Rao appealed that people should realize that this tech takes time, and money, and more importantly, willpower and support.... its not being given by foriegn nations, so if we have to develop, it needs support.
Kaveri IS a success, it has met design parameters.
For those who cant design a damn engine and are here just to criticise - go ahead its ur choice. I am in IT sector, there are plenty of examples who have a habit of saying "I dont know how you do it, i want this done by @$#%#$" - seems this is quite common elsewhere also.
From my side, congratulations to GTRE and wish them all the best to take the lessons learnt forward with the next derivatives! - 3:32 PM


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Thread: Chick-fil-A
The lengths that people will go to to justify counter culture trends that are inherently destructive on society and families amazes me.
The human family as it consist of a man, a woman and children is the product of natural societal evolution.
It produces better human beings. Prisons are full of people from single parent families and its a losing proposition for the gay activist to attack the family unit.
I hope they picked up on that a little yesterday.
To quote Robo... "gays cant procreate, so they indoctrinate".
Its what sickos do...thats the way they roll.
."If anybody can draw on the power, where do we put the meter?" - JP Morgan before pulling Tesla funding
Interesting fact about Chic-Fil-A.
You can NOT buy a Chic-Fil-A franchise, they are rewarded through a program by the family who owns it.
The owner/operator puts NO Capital Investment in the new store they build for him and he splits the profits 50/50 with the family.
Pretty cool huh. Its like winning the lotto especially after the gay activist drew down on them.
Always liked their product, it took this for the kids to try them again. I tend to gravitate towards people, products, candidates and companies that have the right enemies...
...Friday's "Kiss in" looks to be interesting in light of the kindness, tolerance and self-control demonstrated in that article...But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth? seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee.---Psalm 50:16-17
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Thanks for that link shaygetz. And these people say they are fighting hate. They are the originators of hate, against a man who simply stated his beliefs when he was asked about them. Looks like I'll be buying me some more chicken come Friday. I am not surprised at how the protesters were treated by the employees. I can only laugh while recalling reading a quote from the Mayor of Chicago that "Chicago doesn't need Chick Fil-A values".
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It's probably a mistake to over simplify Chick's business practices. As stuff is revealed about their franchise policies it might be more accurate to call them a cult.
More reports are showing there involvement with franchise holders to be very controlling in their private lives. It's not just a position about marriage.
Wait and see before jumping on the Chicken Wagon. I don't trust religious zealots of any flavor.Tracers work both ways.
I can't eat there. It's not political or religious. Not much food for the money. Like the local shacks
"We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that," he said, according to the Baptist Press.
His comments angered advocates of gay-marriage rights, spurring calls to protest the fast-food chain,
I don't get it. Boycott, OKAY. Patronizing the business, OKAY. Different opinions and beliefs, OKAY.
The above statement was actually not anti-queer, just not pro-queer. I think anyone 'angered' over that statement is mentally ill. The shoe fits.I draw all my schematics in crayon now. If they cannot always be correct, they can at least be colorful.
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I'm not in this whole Chick-Fil-A war...but let's think about this for a minute.
A man says that his company upholds family values and supports righteous beliefs....and in return homosexuals buy food from his company so that they can protest inside the building....then heterosexuals declare Chick-Fil-A day in response to the terrible attack from homosexuals and all line up like cows, to eat chicken.
Did we all just get scammed? Chick-Fil-A just got both sides to buy their product over drama that has nothing to do with chicken...smart folks.
08-02-2012, 11:39 PM #25I draw all my schematics in crayon now. If they cannot always be correct, they can at least be colorful.
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I am not in business to make money from other people so that I can afford to work for you for free.
If the fall is over, mmmm let's say, 6 feet or so,.. I do not 'bounce' very well.
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I missed the news about eating at a Chick-Fil-A on Weds., but I made up for it today by taking my wife with me.
I don't think my wife has eaten there before but she sure enjoyed it. The chicken sandwiches had a good 1" thick piece of white meat. They were very good and I love the waffle fries.
I have a good friend who is gay but I'm not for gay "marriage". Call it something else. Marriage is for a man and woman, not Adam and Steve.
It's just another way for the left to destroy the family. They also do a lot through the schools. Renaming Christmas programs to a "holiday" event, as one. Having the kids tell their parents not to smoke. Having the kids tell the parents to drive electric cars. Having the kids tell the parents what to eat. Telling the kids that a substainable lifestyle is what we should aspire to.
Don't get me started on LBJ's "great sociality" welfare program and how it torn apart black families.


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I have elder relatives who served through a real war, the one this nation was actually fighting for it's freedom for, and even now they will not EVER mention a word about what happened what they went though or what they had to face, frankly this fucking level of media manipulation makes me sick to the pit of my stomach.
Wherever it has come from, and I won't sling any stones, but I'm sure most can guess where and why it has come to this piss poor pass. - April 08, 2007 12:22 am
Sell your stories or sell the stories you have been briefed to sell.
The RN capbadge,the Anchor should be modified with the letter W placed firmly on top.
The Senior Service? Your havin a laugh. - April 08, 2007 12:24 am
A ridiculous decision.
How can their stories be judged truthful when the more salacious the details, the more money they will achieve?
Couldn't this also damage the integrity of any enquiries and investigations into the circumstances surrounding their capture and detention?
Isn't there a possibility that this may 'taint' the decision making process of military personnel when faced with a similar dreadful situation where they have to quickly decide surrender? - April 08, 2007 12:42 am
Yes, Iain, it is mad. Steadily, we are being doomed (dooooomed, I tell you!) by the spin-doctoring of NuLabour. This is Blair's way of doing foreign policy and getting a few more votes for his doomed (dooooomed, I tell you) "project" by getting the tabloids to appeal to us Brits' patriotism. "How very dare they, those Iranians?"
Well we haven't had a Falklands moment for a few years and Iraq is a, well, a bit Shi'ite. So a "good result" like this will make us feel good - won't it? - April 08, 2007 12:59 am
- James said...
From a propaganda war point of view, it sort of makes sense. If they are restricted to making 'official' comments, then the Iranian media can easily dismiss it as manipulation. If, however, they are encouraged to sell their stories in all their salacious details, then the global media will do the FCO's job for it, and pay for the privilege.
- April 08, 2007 1:47 am
'They stopped me watching East Enders'.
'The food wasn't what I was used to.'
'I was terribly, terribly afraid they might, you know, do something.'
etc etc ad nauseam. I'm so looking forward to reading all this rubbish.
You want to protest? Just boycott any newspaper that prints it. - April 08, 2007 2:34 am
With the Blair government desperate to claw back some of the lost propaganda edge from Iran you can see how this came about...
- April 08, 2007 3:29 am
- raincoaster said...
It's not media manipulation, it's capitulation. There is no market for discretion anymore.
- April 08, 2007 4:46 am
I agree it's not ideal, but I think the MoD's decision is realistic.
If they weren't allowed to, some at least might simply leave the military and sell their stories anyway, with the usual sales-enhancing rider "the book they tried to ban". The country would lose highly trained personnel, and the ban would have failed. - April 08, 2007 6:31 am
Politicians sell their stories, generals sell their stories, whats the difference, good luck to 'em.
- April 08, 2007 7:32 am
And with one or two honourable exceptions they will. Captain Nairac will be turning in his grave. Bloody torture these wankers don't know how to spell the word.they will. Bunch of traffic wardens managed by complete wankers.
- April 08, 2007 7:38 am
- Colin D said...
The "Latest" revelation must vindicate my & similar comments made on your blog last week Iain!
The mod is in total disgrace and these whinging excuses are just a bloody disgrace. The female "sailor" should be discharged and sent home to raise her child in a fit & proper manner. Des Browne {another Scottish} is totally {UNFIT for Purpose}.
This debacle can & does even make the yanks look reasonable!!
To coin a phrase, Letwin's, "silence is Golden".
Still. All the time we allow & permit this Banana state type of Government, we only have ourselves to blame. - April 08, 2007 8:29 am
- Sisyphus said...
From the BBC piece:
Shadow defence secretary Liam Fox said: "Many people who shared the anxiety of the hostages' abduction will feel that selling their stories is somewhat undignified and falls below the very high standards we have come to expect from our servicemen and women."
Of course the actions of the MOD are proving to be as reprehensible as those of the hostages themselves.
However, it is an equally sad indictment of the times that representatives of your party, Iain, can't bring themselves to roundly condemn one and all for this, frankly, incredible state of affairs. Maybe there hasn't been enough time to organise the focus groups? - April 08, 2007 8:31 am
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- April 08, 2007 8:36 am
Some of the crew will be making big big bucks out of this. Faye Turney most of all. All the papers will want her story above all others. This could cause some resentment. I wonder how her husband will feel about this. I know we all want more money - but as he is also in the military I wonder what he will think about her selling her story. I think this whole thing stinks. Dirty money never brings happiness.
- April 08, 2007 8:40 am
I hope this isn't true. Otherwise the MoD is going to undermine their own credibility. What about other personnel who've actually suffered in battle? All this does is to hype up the crisis - Blair's fingerprints over this.
- April 08, 2007 8:41 am
Initial re-action? < It made me gasp and stretch my eyes >. Then I scuttled into the darkness and wept with shame! These witless collaborators should be incarcerated, court-martialled by the Royal Navy, and shot! Having these cringing wimps bringing further humiliating disgrace upon the Queen's Uniform is intolerable to those of us who have pride in our country.abxno
- April 08, 2007 9:13 am
- Theo Spark said...
This came from No10 and will keep the medias eyes off the Government for a few days. Watch out for the bad news 'mass grave'.
- April 08, 2007 9:20 am
- Savonarola said...
Rejoice Rejoice Lollipop Lady cashes in. What a bunch of gutless gormless 'sailors'. They and the so called Admiral should be kicked out of the navy along with their MOD handlers. Disgraceful.
- April 08, 2007 9:24 am
The money should go back to HMG and perhaps be used to buy the odd boot or two. Or maybe some training. Or maybe a suitable memorial to those who have just died ....
- April 08, 2007 9:25 am
- The Druid said...
Despicable. Utterly contemptible. This can only harm the reputation of the forces. As Whitehall cynically knows.
If the crew has any honour they should give the money to the Royal British Legion. - April 08, 2007 10:16 am
What do we expect from this morally backrupt government? And this from an MOD who named Dr David Kelly (remember Blair saying 'no we didn't' on the plane back from Japan) which was despicable. So if a soldier gets wounded in Iraq he or she gets a small compensation payout - but if you get captured by the Iranians you can get a six figure sum...Blair and his revolting cronies wouldn't understand the word integrity if it landed on their heads. Imagine how the rest of our servicemen and women serving round the world must feel about all this - and particularly bereaved familes....
- April 08, 2007 10:26 am
Classic! Gossip blogger finds newspaper gossip objectionable.
- April 08, 2007 10:30 am
Flavious mate, this is info war between warring ideologies. It may be less glorious than dying in the mud en masse at the Somme or the battle of Kursk but I know which I'd choose (no mud for me!).
(And I'm an uber hawk ffs!) - April 08, 2007 10:33 am
There are no words to adequately describe the shame and disgrace, and the consequences of their - (how shall I put this?) - inadequacy may be long-term and severe. Clearly we want to support our soldiers morally, but equally clearly the rest of the world sees them unambiguously as cowards.
There is no cowardice and no shame in vomiting with fear, with sweating and shaking or crying out in pain. Those are natural human reactions, and truly, I wouldn't even cast the first stone at somebody who simply "ran away" as fast as his little legs, or motorboat, would carry him. But to behave before one's captors, as the representatives of one's country, with such ingratiating subservience, to not only sign a confession but play it out for TV with a map, and then shake the hand of an enemy of the West and of everything we represent... oh, the disgrace, the disgrace.
And now they sell their stories for money, as if they had nothing to be ashamed of, and the MOD encourages them! I could understand it if it was a way of quietly booting them out of the navy (maybe it is). With servicemen like this we are lost.
Tom Watts
miqvarxar"at"yahoo.co.uk - April 08, 2007 10:45 am
Anonymous said... "But to behave before one's captors, as the representatives of one's country, with such ingratiating subservience,"
Oh please! It's so easy for us to condemn as we sit on our arses watching it all on the tv.
What can be worse than the armchair warriors. - April 08, 2007 11:16 am
Any other military personnel who get involved in an "incident" in the future will demand the right to sell their story. Nobody will want to suffer for "free" any more. It's a very bad precedent.
- April 08, 2007 11:24 am
- Sabretache said...
No Iain. The world hasn't gone mad; but this country and the Western 'Values' we so sanctimoniously insist on forcing down others throats, most certainly have.
Once - it seems like a lifetime ago - I was proud to be British. These days I am ashamed, and I mean ASHAMED. This latest fiasco is just another sickening symptom of a disease which is slowly but surely killing this country. - April 08, 2007 11:42 am
- Daily Referendum said...
To those who would call others cowards without being in their shoes I ask: What would you do? spend seven years in the prison of a violent and corrupt nation, or make a false confession that the world will know was made under duress. These people have spent the majority of their adult lives away from their families in service of their country. Please before you call the Navy a bunch of cowards and wankers seriously consider what you would do in their situation. Some on here seriously need to stop reading war comics. Do you think that Iran would have let them go without a confession? or do you think they would have increased the abuse and kept them captive until they did confess? Lets get something straight: we are not at war with Iran, the 15 did not give away state secrets, they merely took part in a charade initiated by a corrupt government so that they could return home to their families. Imagine the choice: you put on a suit, you shake my hand and smile or it's back to the wall and the sound of rifles cocking. What would you do?
- April 08, 2007 12:04 pm
The war on terror is not a game or a media stunt; fundamentalist terrorism threatens us all. Iran is quite capable of sponsoring terrorist attacks in the UK via its proxies. That's one of the reasons why this incident matters.
Now that UK sailors have appeared to be such easy, satisfying prey, we can expect more kidnappings, and God spare us from more craven apologies. Image matters in this terrible war, and we have given an impression of weakness - Iran and Al Qaeda will not hesitate to capitalise on this.
Anonymous, if you're too complacent to make a judgement even on this, if you don't, in other words, think it matters... Look, if this is acceptable, what counts as cowardice, and how could we praise or value bravery, and how could we ever hope to defeat an enemy who do risk their lives and profess their beliefs?
Tom. - April 08, 2007 12:08 pm
And Daily Referendum, that is a typical relativist's question - how can any of us condemn without walking a mile with their backpack, etc. I'm afraid things are more serious than that, and the war at a more critical juncture.
Unless we have high - even impossible - ideals, unless we aim high, we will achieve nothing, and have no words to praise real fortitude.
Tom. - April 08, 2007 12:31 pm
And another thing: we are not at war with Iran, but we are at war with Islamic fundamentalist terrorism. Many of its sponsors and originators take their inspiration from, and occupy senior positions in, the Islamic Republic.
- April 08, 2007 12:38 pm
when will people realise that we are being run by the most disgusting, self serving and criminal politiciasns. They asre solely responsible for the collapse of respect, decency and common sense in society.
I cannot articulate the depth of disgust with which I hold this bunch of liars.
As if any other group of politicians in living memeory would allow us to end up in the situation we are in now?
I have nothing but admiration for our armed services but I honestly feel they should simply up sticks, head home and instigate a regime change in this country.
God forbid I should ever come across any of this spineless group of wankers who think they run this country, of course i wouldnt actually harm them because i have respect for the rule of law and my fellow citizens, but they would stretch that to the limit.
If Bliar doesnt end up in jail then there is no justice in the world.
am i the only person who is sickened by this government? - April 08, 2007 12:44 pm
"Oh please! It's so easy for us to condemn as we sit on our arses watching it all on the tv."
Plenty of people have been in their situation and HAVENT' capitulated so easily.
Furthermore, the fact that most of us are sat at home doesn't mean we can't expect high standards of our armed forces. - April 08, 2007 12:46 pm
- Colin D said...
Where is Hatfield Girl Today???
Her silence is truly thunderous!! - April 08, 2007 12:54 pm
Disgraceful conduct by the Navy 15
1. Join the Navy ( NOTE THE DROPPING OF ROYAL )
2. Surrender and bring shame upon the Nation
3. Sell your story
4. Ensure the poor treatment of Military personnel who may be detained in the future.
What a total bunch of wankers. My heart bleeds for the faamilies and loved ones of those who have lost their lives. - April 08, 2007 1:10 pm
it is part of winning the propaganda war. never has it been more clear that it is just their version of the 'truth'.
- April 08, 2007 1:20 pm
- Daily Referendum said...
Anonymous@12:31PM said:
"Unless we have high - even impossible - ideals, unless we aim high, we will achieve nothing, and have no words to praise real fortitude."
Can you tell us exactly how low a price our service people should put on their lives to protect your ideals?
no longer anonymous said:
"Plenty of people have been in their situation and HAVENT' capitulated so easily."
Have you?
Some on here have called the bravest people our country has produced recently cowards. Those 15 are amongst the few who are willing to go to a conflict zone and serve their country. The Royal Marines regard themselves as the best commandos in the world, to call them cowards is to take everything they believe in from them. Please do not use the word coward lightly because it is a word that will be covered in their blood, when they try to prove that they are not. - April 08, 2007 1:29 pm
From my son in Basra.
" What a vomit inducing bunch of game show contestants. Sorry must dash as I have my 3rd patrol in my open air Land Rover. Hope Mrs Blair still has her armoured Omega for shopping trips in down town Knightsbridge. " - April 08, 2007 1:30 pm
It would seem to me that even if, placed in this same position, myself and other 'armchair generals' collaborated with our captives in the exact same craven manner as the 15 sailors and marines we would still, having in this hypothetical scenario joined the armed forces, be expected to adhere to certain absolute standards of behaviour. If, taking this scenario further, we fell short of those standards and started blubbing like a child caught with his hand in the cookey jar we would richly deserve the contempt and scorn of our collegues and society as a whole and ought to be liable to court martial on our eventual return.
However such is the media circus surrounding this affair that instead of being punished this wretched shower are going to be significantly better compensated for their incompetence and lack of moral fibre than the real soldiers fighting on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan who have incapacitating war wounds and received paltry sums in comparison.
The moral should be that human weakness or frailty should be no excuse for falling short of the standards of behaviour, even under duress, that can and must be expected. - April 08, 2007 2:50 pm
- Daily Referendum said...
Ozzy (MCC),
I'm awarding you the MCC (mouse clickers cross) for bravery in front of a keyboard. Why don't you go down to the careers office on Tuesday and Join up. You could show the rest of your soon to be comrades how to defeat the enemy with the click of a mouse button.
How very brave you are. With people like you sat at a keyboard why should Britain tremble? - April 08, 2007 3:06 pm
- Ratty. said...
Nulab utter scum
April 08, 2007 12:44 PM
am I the only person who is sickened by this government?
No you are not. I live abroad and you will not be surprised to hear that our once great country is now held in very little regard in so many ways. I hate myself for saying it but sometimes I feel ashamed to say that I am an Englishman. Blair and his NL have struck a death blow to my country and I fear that we may never recover. - April 08, 2007 4:06 pm
Hmm, wonder what the Iranian leadership is saying to the populace about this. If I find it mildly degrading to be fellowcountrymen to these immoral and inept people, just think what I would be feeling as a devout Moslem?
- April 08, 2007 5:26 pm
Anon at 1.30pm - you and your son have said everything that needs to be said on this subject.
I hope you will pass our good wishes to your son in Basra and please God he comes home safely. - April 08, 2007 5:56 pm
Yes Iain it has gone mad. Disgraceful conduct which has shamed the Nation. But it is interesting to hear Colonel Bob Stewart's views. This from a man who was happy for his wife to look after the wives of his soldiers back in Germany whilst he shagged the arse off his Bosnian interpreter. Honour? Bob Stewart lost all that and is the perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black. Another tosser from a long line of Military Tossers.
- April 08, 2007 6:11 pm
Jafo at 5.56
Thank you. Consider it done.
My Son and his soldiers in Basra are continuing to do their job in honour of the many brave men and women who have done their duty for Quenn and Country. They do so irrespective of the lies that sent them there in the first place and safe in the knowledge that, if they should put a foot wrong in the most difficult circumstances imagineable, they will be held accountable and Court Martialed. To see the RN and RM personnel being rewarded for giving in makes them puke. May Mrs Rose Gentle and all of the other grieving Parents be spared this monstrous media circus. I hope, as do all of my Sons soldiers, that the returned personnel and their Parents can look in the can look in the mirror tonight. God Bless and keep safe our Brave Fighting Men and Women and Damm those who profit from the unbearable agony of those who grieve. - April 08, 2007 6:26 pm
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A delicious blend of fibre with all the moral taken out.... - April 08, 2007 6:47 pm
Let natural justice take its course. Any of those former captives naive enough to sell their souls to Max Clifford & Co will have a very short and unhappy career in the armed forces. Best they put in their resignations sooner rather than later.
At least one of them seems to have the brains to have worked this out:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6537217.stm - April 08, 2007 7:22 pm
Prime Ministers Question Time
Prime Minister.....
" I hope the whole house will join me in sending our condolences to all of those Army personnel killed this week in Iraq who will now be unable to sell their stories of how their inadequately armoured and poorly equipped Warriors were blown apart. If only they had joined the Navy they would be at home, on leave and looking forward to a very nice cheque in the post instead of being just a name on a Memorial to my Vanity." - April 08, 2007 7:42 pm
Perhaps Mr Dale, would like to condemn Lord Lamont who is an apologist for the Iranian regime.
- April 08, 2007 9:02 pm
- Yak40 said...
It's the selling of the stories by those still in uniform that is so despicable. Couple that with the MOD saying there won't be a proper inquiry into the affair, al-Beeb shelving the "VC" story and it all shows the depth to which we have sunk.
One poster's name here sums it up, hint his initials are "nlus" (1244pm) - April 09, 2007 1:47 pm
But the real point of it is that, by selling these stories, these unfortunate service men and woman hand yet another propaganda victory to the Iranians. For who can now believe their stories? If they are being paid to tell what happened to them, is there any reason to take this version more seriously than the version the Iranians got out of them? On the one hand, bribed with the hope of a quick release. On the other, bribed with £100,000...
I am glad they are home, and I don't wish to condemn them for acting as they did - we can't know what it was like to be first approached, and then captured and held by some Persian rabble. But I do think they should (a) not be permitted to talk and (b) themselves have the good sense not to do so. - April 09, 2007 5:36 pm
This is a very important message about an Islamic terroristic grand Attack.
کیر بزمجه عربستان و مصر تو کس ننه هرکی سیده.
سنده ملت جهان تو کس ننه حافظان شریعت اسلام
کیر خوک تو کس ننه فاحشه => پاسدار یا بسیجی یا اطلاعاتی یا جاسوس اسلام یا سید یا حزب اللهی
گوه خوک تو ننه امام حسین شد امام حسن
سنده شیطان تو حلق محمد رسول الله قرآن شد.
خرطوم فیل تو کس ننه پیامبر اسلام.
الله اکبر
خامنه ای عنتر
مرگ بر دوست ولایت فقیه
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