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NEWTOWN, Conn. (AP) — The massacre of 26 children and adults at a Connecticut elementary school elicited horror and soul-searching around the world even as it raised more basic questions about why the gunman, a 20-year-old described as brilliant but remote, was driven to such a crime and how he chose his victims.
Investigators were trying to learn more about Adam Lanza and questioned his older brother, who was not believed to have been involved in the rampage at Sandy Hook Elementary. Police shed no light on the motive for the second-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history.
In tight-knit Newtown on Friday night, hundreds of people packed St. Rose of Lima Church and stood outside in a vigil for the 28 dead — 20 children and six adults at the school, the gunman's mother at home, and the gunman himself, who committed suicide. People held hands, lit candles and sang "Silent Night."
"These 20 children were just beautiful, beautiful children," Monsignor Robert Weiss said. "These 20 children lit up this community better than all these Christmas lights we have. ... There are a lot brighter stars up there tonight because of these kids."
Lanza is believed to have suffered from a personality disorder and lived with his mother, said a law enforcement official who was briefed on the investigation. Authorities said he had no criminal history.
Asked at a news conference whether Lanza had left any emails or other writings that might explain the rampage, state police Lt. Paul Vance said investigators had found "very good evidence" and hoped it would answer questions about the gunman's motives. Vance would not elaborate.
However, another law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that investigators have found no note or manifesto of the sort they have come to expect after murderous rampages.
The tragedy plunged the picturesque New England town of 27,000 people into mourning.
"People in my neighborhood are feeling guilty about it being Christmas. They are taking down decorations," said Jeannie Pasacreta, a psychologist who volunteered her services and was advising parents struggling with how to talk to their children.
Lanza shot his mother, Nancy Lanza, drove to the school in her car with at least three of her guns, and opened fire in two classrooms around 9:30 a.m. Friday, authorities said. Continued...
A custodian ran through the halls, warning of a gunman, and someone switched on the intercom, perhaps saving many lives by letting them hear the chaos in the school office, according to a teacher. Teachers locked their doors and ordered children to huddle in a corner, duck under their desks or hide in closets as shots reverberated through the building.
Among those killed was the school's well-liked principal, Dawn Hochsprung. Town officials said she died while lunging at the gunman in an attempt to overtake him. A woman who worked at the school was wounded.
Maryann Jacob, a clerk in the school library, was in there with 18 fourth-graders when they heard a commotion and gunfire outside the room. She had the youngsters crawl into a storage room, and they locked the door and barricaded it with a file cabinet. There happened to be materials for coloring, "so we set them up with paper and crayons."
After what she guessed was about an hour, officers came to the door and knocked, but those inside couldn't be sure it was the police.
"One of them slid his badge under the door, and they called and said, 'It's OK, it's the police,"' she said.
A law enforcement official speaking on condition of anonymity said investigators believe Lanza attended the school several years ago but appeared to have no recent connection to it. It was not clear whether he held a job.
At least one parent said Lanza's mother was a substitute teacher at the school. But her name did not appear on a staff list. And the official said investigators were unable to establish any connection so far between her and the school.
The law enforcement officials insisted on anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the unfolding investigation.
Lanza's older brother, 24-year-old Ryan Lanza, of Hoboken, N.J., was questioned, and investigators searched his computers and phone records, but he told law enforcement he had not been in touch with his brother since about 2010.
For about two hours late Friday and early Saturday, clergy members and emergency vehicles moved steadily to and from the school. The state medical examiner's office said bodies of the victims would be taken there for autopsies. Continued...
The gunman forced his way into the kindergarten-through-fourth-grade school, authorities said. He took three guns into the school — a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both semiautomatic pistols, and a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, according to an official who spoke on the condition of anonymity. The weapons were registered to his slain mother.
Lanza and his mother lived in a well-to-do part of prosperous Newtown, about 60 miles northeast of New York City, where neighbors are doctors or hold white-collar positions at companies such as General Electric, Pepsi and IBM.
His parents filed for divorce in 2008, according to court records. His father, Peter Lanza, lives in Stamford, Conn., and works as a tax director for GE.
The gunman's aunt Marsha Lanza, of Crystal Lake, Ill., said her nephew was raised by kind, nurturing parents who would not have hesitated to seek mental help for him if he needed it.
"Nancy wasn't one to deny reality," Marsha Lanza said, adding her husband had seen Adam as recently as June and recalled nothing out of the ordinary.
Catherine Urso, of Newtown, said her college-age son knew the killer. "He just said he was very thin, very remote and was one of the goths," she said.
Lanza attended Newtown High School, and several news clippings from recent years mention his name among the honor roll students.
Joshua Milas, who graduated from Newtown High in 2009 and belonged to the school technology club with him, said that Lanza was generally a happy person but that he hadn't seen him in a few years.
"We would hang out, and he was a good kid. He was smart," Joshua Milas said. "He was probably one of the smartest kids I know. He was probably a genius."
The mass shooting is one of the deadliest in U.S. history, and among school attacks is second in victims only to the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre, which left 33 people dead, including the gunman. Reaction was swift and emotional in Newtown and beyond. Continued...
"It has to stop, these senseless deaths," said Frank DeAngelis, principal of Colorado's Columbine High School, where a massacre in 1999 killed 15 people.
In Washington, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence organized a vigil at the White House, with some protesters chanting, "Today IS the day" to take steps to curb gun violence. In New York's Times Square, a few dozen people held tea lights in plastic cups, with one woman holding a sign that read: "Take a moment and candle to remember the victims of the Newtown shooting."
President Barack Obama's comments on the tragedy amounted to one of the most outwardly emotional moments of his presidency.
"The majority of those who died were children — beautiful little kids between the ages of 5 and 10 years old," Obama said at a White House news briefing. He paused for several seconds to keep his composure as he teared up and wiped an eye. Nearby, two aides cried and held hands.
Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard described the attack as a "senseless and incomprehensible act of evil."
"Like President Obama and his fellow Americans, our hearts too are broken," Gillard said in a statement.
In Japan, where guns are severely restricted and there are extremely few gun-related crimes, the attack led the news two days before parliamentary elections. In China, which has seen several knife rampages at schools in recent years, the attack quickly consumed public discussion.
In Newtown, Robert Licata said his 6-year-old son was in class when the gunman burst in and shot the teacher. "That's when my son grabbed a bunch of his friends and ran out the door," he said. "He was very brave. He waited for his friends."
He said the shooter didn't utter a word.
Kaitlin Roig, a teacher at the school, said she implored her students to be quiet.
"I told them we had to be absolutely quiet. Because I was just so afraid if he did come in, then he would hear us and just start shooting the door. I said we have to be absolutely quiet. And I said there are bad guys out there now and we need to wait for the good guys to come get us out," Roig told ABC.
"If they started crying, I would take their face and say, 'It's going to be OK. Show me your smile,"' she said. "They said, 'We want to go home for Christmas. Yes, yeah. I just want to hug my mom.' Things like that, that were just heartbreaking."
Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Pat Eaton-Robb and Matt Apuzzo and videographer Robert Ray in Newtown; Bridget Murphy in Boston; Samantha Henry in Newark, N.J.; Pete Yost in Washington; Michael Melia in Hartford; and the AP News Research Center in New York.
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Their price is a little higher than Ping's. You would have to call for a quote, but being local their service and support makes up for it. I am glad to see an American company getting a foothold in a China dominated battery market.
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Jurors question Sandra Layne in murder trial
Both sides had a second crack at asking accused murderer Sandra Layne questions on Thursday, but members of the jury may have asked the biggest questions of all.
Layne, 75, described again Thursday the events leading up to the shooting death of her grandson, 17-year-old Jonathan Hoffman, at Layne's West Bloomfield Township home. She described May 18 — the day of the shooting — and the events immediately following the shooting as well.
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After attorneys completed their lines of questioning, jurors wrote questions on yellow legal pads and handed them in for review.
"Why didn't you call 911 when you went to the basement?" one juror asked.
Layne ran downstairs, to an area that had two landline phones, after firing the initial shots at Hoffman.
"When I was in the basement all I was thinking was I had to hide," Layne said.
"I was terrified and I wanted to hide someplace in the basement so he couldn't find me, and that's what my thinking was at the time. Somebody else would have done something else, but that's what I did."
A second question asked why Layne thought bringing a gun into Hoffman's loft bedroom would calm him down. Continued...
"There are so many of us in this room, and each one of you would react in a different way, and you don't know how you're going to act in a certain way," Layne said.
"It's impossible."
Unsatisfied with that answer, Oakland County Circuit Judge Denise Langford Morris asked Layne to answer the question as it was posed.
"I didn't know what to do," Layne said, sobbing.
"I just didn't know what to do. Somebody else would have done it different. I just did it that way. I don't know. It's just what I did."
Another juror asked why it seemed as though Layne shot Hoffman in the master bedroom and kitchen.
"Were you chasing him or was he chasing you?" the juror asked.
"I was trying to get away from him," Layne said.
"I was being chased, and I don't know how. I don't recall. It's terrible, but I don't remember being in those rooms and what exactly happened. I don't know."
The prosecution's cross-examination of Layne consumed the entirety of an abbreviated morning session and stretched into the afternoon, with Oakland County Assistant Prosecutor Kelli Megyesi asking Layne to answer most questions with a yes or no answer. Continued...
When Megyesi asked Layne if she shot her grandson, Layne began rocking back and forth and paused for a period of time before answering.
"At some point, yes," she eventually said.
Layne said Hoffman hit her in the head and kicked her, and she fired the shots after the attack because she was frightened.
She couldn't recall which way she went after descending the stairs moments after first shooting Hoffman.
"There was running and screaming and hysteria and terrible behavior," she said.
"It happens fast. It doesn't happen slow. It happens fast, and I don't know what room I'm in."
Layne — who says she shot Hoffman in self defense — said she hid in the basement for a period of time before returning to Hoffman's loft bedroom. She still could not hear due to the gunshots and she dropped her gun and leaned toward Hoffman.
Hoffman then reached for the gun, Layne said. He grabbed her arm.
Layne shot Hoffman again, and then went to get him some water because she thought he asked for some. Gunsmoke was still in the air when she reached the first floor and saw a police car outside.
Layne — who said it was "almost a relief" to see police — remembered telling officers "I killed my grandson" and "I murdered my grandson." Continued...
After Layne's testimony concluded, the defense rested, and the prosecution called Jennifer Colby to the stand.
Colby, a nurse at Henry Ford Hospital in West Bloomfield Township, removed Layne's clothing on the day of the shooting after Layne was taken in for an examination.
Colby said she did not see any swelling or redness on Layne's face or on her upper body.
Colby asked Layne if Hoffman hurt her.
"She said 'No,' " Colby said. "She said 'He's a good boy. He would never hurt us. He would never hurt anyone.' "
Layne told Colby that she didn't want Hoffman to go. Colby asked "Go where?" but Layne did not answer.
The prosecution rested after Colby's testimony. The trial will take a day off before closing arguments begin Monday morning.
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Night vision technology has been around since World War II for military use. These days, however, the technology is available to civilians for a variety of uses. A lot of people think that night vision goggles and binoculars are only for hunters, but they have a lot of practical uses that we can integrate into our daily lives. For instance, flashlights can be clunky and unreliable, and they make it difficult to see things at night outside of their range. With night vision technology, you can see great distances in almost total darkness without having to lug around a heavy, expensive flashlight.
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If Goldman advises everyone to jump really high, I would advise everyone to get a shove instead, dig a foxhole, and jump into that.Golden Showers As Goldman Tells Clients To Sell Gold
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It's around that time of day again - when precious metals are sold hard for whatever reason you care to come up with (collateral requirements, margin calls, alchemy perfected). However, today there is a more mundane reason: Goldman Sachs has suggested its clients sell Gold on the basis that the gold cycle will turn in 2013 thanks to improving US growth offsetting the need for further Fed easing. Of course, Goldman telling its clients to 'sell gold' means Goldman is...
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In January, Interior Design magazine published its annual list of the top 100 interior design firms for 2010. The top 5 firms on the list are: 1) Gensler 2) Perkins + Will 3) HOK 4) Nelson and 5) Jacobs. My current company isn't on the list. Even though we are an engineering and architecture firm, with an interior design division, our primary specialization is in engineering. Anywho, my goal is to work for a firm that is on the Top 100 list after I graduate from school. I am familiar with some of the names on the list but need to do a little research to expand my knowledge base on "who's who in interior design". (future blog coming). The list also mentions that the median fee for interior designers increased by 3. 7 percent. Cool. I'm focused and I'm mapping out my career goals now. I have a lot to look forward to in the future. Who knows, maybe my firm will be on this list one day. (DREAM BIG) At any rate, I can't wait until I can officially say, I'm an interior designer.
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Four Cool Ajax Plugins for WordPress
WordPress is probably the most popular free software solution for publishing and managing a dynamic personal Web site. It installs easily and quickly, it has a lot of plugins that extend its functionality, and it can be used with practically every Web hosting provider on the planet. Ajax (Asynchronous JavaScript and XML) is a mix of Web technologies used for building Web sites that respond much more quickly and smoothly to user input. Combining WordPress and Ajax to build a snappier Web site in a few minutes is much easier than it may seem at first, but you need to follow the instructions carefully to avoid a few little traps.
This article discusses four Ajax plugins that can make your WordPress-based Web site more dynamic, friendly and fun for visitors. The only prerequisite is that you have an already-working WordPress installation (we used version 2.1) and, of course, a complete backup of it just in case something goes wrong.
Let's start with a plugin that doesn't generate impressive snapshots, but makes your site less boring by making navigation faster. AjaxWp improves the responsiveness of your WordPress pages with a relatively simple trick; it dynamically replaces all the internal links to other parts of your Web site with onclick() JavaScript function calls.
When visitors click on these modified links, their browsers launch the scripts embedded in the AjaxWp code. These scripts then request the new page, all by themselves, in the background. In the meantime, the visitors' browsers will not go blank; the header, footer, sidebars—basically every part of your Web site that is common both to the current page and the one just requested—remain fully readable where they are.
The part to be replaced, and that only, gradually vanishes, and the block of new content takes its place as soon as the AjaxWp scripts have it ready. During this phase, to show that it is actually doing something, AjaxWp superimposes an animated GIF of a rotating wheel to the area it is replacing. The animation with which AjaxWp moves from the old page to the new one, courtesy of the Script.aculo.us library, can be set to appear, slide or blind.
How slowly or quickly all this happens depends on the speed of the Internet connection, the load on your Web server and the speed of your visitors' computers. If something goes wrong, after a programmable timeout, AjaxWp simply lets the browser load the page in the standard mode.
AjaxWp depends on a few JavaScript libraries that are included in the distribution. To use this plugin, download the latest tarball from the home page, unpack it, and move its JavaScript folder, the animated GIF and a PHP file called, you guessed it, ajax-wp.php, inside your WordPress installation. Then the fun begins.
AjaxWp can work in two modes: Quick, which is easier to configure and use, or Optimized. Whichever mode you choose, the home page and the README file describe in detail all the actual steps of the installation procedure, but I summarize the main points here.
In Quick mode, every AjaxWp call requests a whole new page from the server and then extracts from it the single area that must be refreshed in the browser window. Other than the steps described above, you need to add only a few lines of PHP code to the header file of your WordPress theme to start using Quick AjaxWp.
Optimized mode is faster and more efficient, because only the pieces of the pages that have to change are requested from the server and dropped as they arrive in the right part of the browser window. To make this work, however, you have to create an AjaxWp version of your theme—that is, add to each of its pages the snippets of PHP code described in the on-line documentation. Depending on your theme, this may take a bit of tweaking to get right.
Some advice: keep a copy of all the original WordPress files and restart from those if you configure Quick AjaxWp and decide to switch to Optimized mode later. If you mix or repeat installation steps or JavaScript calls in the code, strange things will happen.
Whether you choose Quick or Optimized mode, don't forget to spend a few minutes checking the configuration variables of AjaxWp to adapt them to your taste and, more important, to your theme and general WordPress setup. The two most important options are ajax_wp_blog_base_path, which is the relative path from the root of your Web server to your WordPress installation folder, and the list of pages (ajax_wp_ignore_links) that should be loaded normally rather than through AjaxWp.
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Awesome. I am just trying out AjaxWP
I am really liking the lets talk plugin, I am away to use it now for a site of mine.
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Im a wordpress user and the chat ones looks like nice for me, but I think that there are better plugins based on ajax for wodpress out there.
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Jeff Hammond wrote:jgb wrote:Let's keep in mind that it is called SKETCHup Not GoogleCAD.
so going off that train of thought, I should just buy AutoCad then all my drawings will be done automatically.
But only for drawing cars........
Sketchup is Inacurrate???Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???
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Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???Going back to the FollowMe around Arcs...
There's no 'inaccuracy'. Sketchup takes a profile Face and Extrudes it around path of Edges. The orientation of that Face to the first Edge in the path [at its start] determines the extruded form. If the Face is perpendicular to the first Edge in the path it's perpendicular to the last Edge in the path too. An Arc consists of several Edges as 'Segments'. Let's say the Arc is a semi-circle' If the Face is perpendicular to the first Segment it will end perpendicular to the last one, The extruded form won't therefore be a half circle of extrusion. If you draw the Face at a Vertex it will be auto-adjusted to be projected so it is square to the first path Edge... If you want a full half-circle there are tools like EEbyLathe [use 180 degrees], OR simply start the FollowMe at a mid-point on a Segment and end on the equivalent mid-point 180 degrees around the circle; it will then be the full half-circle form. Please, register (free) to access all the attachments on the forums. TIG
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the thing is, as you roundabout just said in the above three sentence, is that you can't use follow me on an arced path. (well you can, it just won't be accurate).. in the exact same way that you can't accurately offset an arc in sketchup.. sketchup ignores the 'arc' part and just treats it as a series of segments which results in an error.. this post on pg2 has an example file attached which shows the error: viewtopic.php?p=394122#p394122 here's another way to see the error: dunno.. maybe i'm using the wrong word here but this is definitely inaccurate in my book.. Please, register (free) to access all the attachments on the forums. dotdotdot
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???Dave, I'm afraid Gerrit (Wo3dan) is correct, the start of the arc is not perpendicular. You don't even need to use a protractor to confirm this. If you go into the Styles dialog and change the edge colouring from All The Same to By Axis, then explode the arc, you will see that it isn't. If the first segment was perpendicular it would show up as green...because it ought to be running along the green axis. It doesn't, 'cos it's not.
TIG is absolutely right about SU...there is no inaccuracy when extruding around curves, just incorrect implementation. There have been other posts about SU being innacurate because of this slight adjustment when starting an extrusion along a path that is not exactly perpendicular. Some people seem to think that SU should just perform the extrusion and leave the original face where it is. However this really would be inaccurate...because it would mean that the face was being extruded obliquely along the path. This in turn would mean that at no point along the entire extrusion would the cross section be be the same as the original template. FormFonts
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Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???It's not an error, it's not inaccurate.
As you say, Sketchup extrudes along the segment path. There are no real Arcs in Sketchup, jut edges. So as long as you bear that in mind, and ensure your extrusion starts on a segment and not a vertex, you can get a 'correct' extrusion around an 'Arc' TIG
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???I got it dah thanks TIG
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seriously, i understand that there are no 'real' arcs in sketchup.. that said, if you have a sketchup arc, all the vertices will be true distances from the centerpoint.. when using follow me, an arc's vertices and what happens at the vertices is inaccurate.. for simplifying the point i'm trying to make, let's forget about followme and look at the error in 2D using the offset tool… so you're saying this arc has been properly and accurately offset? my whole point is that if sketchup recognizes the arc (as evident in entity info / gives proper arc length as opposed to sum of it's segments / etc.) then it should also be able to offset the arc properly.. it's an error that could (and should) be prevented through proper programming. Please, register (free) to access all the attachments on the forums. dotdotdot
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???Your Arc Offset example is executed perfectly logically.
The ends are always offset at 90 degrees, making the last 'segment' longer than the rest. This is the corollary of what you complain about with FollowMe, where the extrusion starts at 90 degrees to the path rather than being skewed. You want the offset to be more like a Scaled down version of the parent Arc, about a common center... However, drawing two temporary lines from the Arc center to it's ends and erasing off the offset Arc's ends and the temp-lines does the job easily enough. If you wanted a square offset then how might you do it? This way you have to do a quick trim to get a non-square end to the offset facet... Please, register (free) to access all the attachments on the forums. TIG
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no. it's not.. we're talking about accuracy here.. not 'well, i guess it looks similar'.. do some measuring and see if they are actually the same..
i can't fathom how you're not seeing this, as smart as you are if i offset an arc (say one bent to 90º), i expect it to perform exactly as what happens to offsetting 1/4 of a circle.. the newly offset arc should also be bent to 90º.. that is the logical execution.. (fwiw, you can't offset a circle accurately in sketchup either.. draw a 10'r circle then inwardly offset it by 1'.. logic tells you (well, it tells me) that the resulting circle will have a 9'r ..but it doesn't.) EDIT- sketchup *should* be moving the vertices here since it's a circle.. instead, it moves the segments.. if you have a circle/arc, it's only the vertices that matter..
if i want to offset an arc in sketchup, i definitely don't use the offset tool.. i have to draw the two arcs separately.. if i want to offset an arc in a more accurate app, i use the offset tool there's no ifs,ands,buts about it.. you simply can not offset (or follow me) arcs in sketchup.. i've tried it a zillion times and a zillion different ways.. you can accurately offset/followme a collection of line segments but the two aren't the same thing.. there is different maths for the two situation.. if you're inwardly offsetting an arc by 1' then all of the new vertices should be exactly 1' closer to the original arc's centerpoint.. and the degree of the arc's bend should remain the same.. this doesn't happen in sketchup and you end up with an inaccurate drawing.. dotdotdot
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???That's interesting Jeff. Even with closed shapes, SU still offsets the vertices perpendicular to the last 'arc' line segment. I was thinking maybe with a closed shape, it knows to keep the vertices correctly oriented.
Yeah, I have to agree, that's inaccurate as hell. Logical, sure, since the offset of the lines is always perpendicular, but there is no way to maintain accuracy of an arc with an offset.
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???The verticies are not acurate but the midpoints of the segment are. The vertices are not the point to be measured to. It is just the a "filler" if you will to complete the geometry. If computers drew the circle to infinity I guess you could measure from any point along the radius. As far as the entity dialogue box it shows an aproximate number which is kinda goofy to me. I think both you guys are right in some way:)
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???
OK, but an arc doesn't end at a midpoint...
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see.. no. you have that backwards.. the segments are the "filler".. the vertices are the money (and that's pretty simple to see in sketchup.. draw a circle to a certain radius.. now measure from the center point to one of the vertices.. it's the vertices that matter..) dotdotdot
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???just being silly now with the multiple choice test but…
Q. the radius of a circle derived from offsetting a 10R circle by a unit of 1 = a. 9 b. 8.99137 dotdotdot
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???
Wait, I think I know this one. It's ......hm.... It's 9 (by inferencing) Unless you use input "1" when offsetting.
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???I think sketchup has it backwards. Like I said kinda goofy if you ask me. The "one's and zero's need to be reordered .
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???
ha Gerrit.. you're killing me here.. (but i suppose this is what TIG was talking about doing in his earlier example.. he had 'desired offset marker' in there so he was using that as an inference point) so go ahead and inference it in 3D.. with the follow me tool dotdotdot
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???Scaling an Arc anchored at its center and through a 'mark' [as in my example] produces a new Arc with equal segments and vertices...
A line drawn through the center and both arc's vertices shows this. There is no argument that this is a truly offset arc ??? Offsetting an Arc through the equivalent 'mark' extends the new arc's first/last segments so that if you were to draw a line across the two arcs' starts/ends it'd be square. If you draw a longer line from the center to the original Arc's start/end it will cut the offset arc and if you then erase the extra bits off the start/end [and these temporary lines], then the resulting offset arc is exactly like the scaled version, with equal segments and vertex-spacing... So it is possible to use Offset on an Arc and get a true arc result - albeit that you need to edit start/end segment to make it 'true'. As I said before... If you wanted to offset an Arc to have 'square' ends it'd be more tricky. Some simple editing of an offset=arc gives you both possibilities... TIG
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???
it's not that sketchup necessarily has it backwards.. i mean, it's doing it perfectly accurate if you're offsetting straight lines (say a square for instance).. the problem is that it should be able to tell the difference between an arc and a collection of straight lines.. instead, it treats both situations the same way.. if i'm offsetting a square, the 4 sides should move the desired distance along the edges' perpendiculars… if i'm offsetting a 4 sided circle, the 4 vertices should move the desired distance along the edges' bisectors.. dotdotdot
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Sorry about that, Jeff, but I just can't see the inaccuracy. I do understand that you would like the offset tool on an arc to allow you to offset a certain distance to give you a new arc with predictable radius (=RADIUS-distance). But offsetting with inferencing makes it possible. Even on an arc in 3D. That's all I wanted to say. The point at center works on any arc. Drawing a radius from center to arc's vertex also works in any situation. Now overrule the just drawn arc by inputting the new radius value. Offset works in the arc's plane and (apply the same vertex you drew the radius to!) inference the offsetted arc to the short radius's endpoint (opposite from the center on same edge). As for the "Follow me" tool, it's very consistent, although the twisting can be a pain. But you can be sure that the cross section has the same dimensions on each segment troughout the path. Even with any more or less complicated 3D curve as a path. This is not what I can say for the first example you presented a few "pages" back. The cross section is not the same. @jgb, Not only in engineering 0.5 degrees can be of great importance. A collumn in a building that isn't plumb, but 0.5 degrees off blue, carrying a heavy load (9mm/m)?.... not that good. But I only wanted to point out what caused the unwanted 'Follow Me' result.
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???I can see the argument from both sides for arc offsets because in the past I've wanted both results. Ideally SU will be given true arcs at some point. But from this thread I now understand why things are the way they are and on balance from an architectural perspective I prefer to have any offset from an arc create a consistent (wall) thickness which is what happens now rather than tapering the arc section to maintain a vertex offset.
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???And about surface?
A disc of 1 m radius 12 segments is 3.00m2 24 segments is 3.11 m2 36 segments is 3.13 m2 100 segments is 3.14 m2 10 m radius 12 segments is 300 m2 24 segments is 310.58 m2 36 segments is 312.57 m2 100 segments is 313.95 m2 And I suppose that will be more dramatic with volume So accurate for Sketch and drawing representation not for precises measures in case of Arc, Circle, Curves...
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???To stop the issue... here's an Arc_Offet_True tool viewtopic.php?p=395769#p395769
It has a few issues with Arcs with trimmed first/last segments BUT I'm working on that... EDIT: Version v1.1 now correctly mimics the original Arc's start/end segments if they were 'trimmed', it also stops you offsetting with a negative distance to 'zero' or beyond... Version v1.2 now has a 'Number' option to make arrayed offsets, and a context-menu item too... TIG
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???Wow! Lots of posts. Think I've read through them all but I don't think the following has been pointed out... Sketchup is based on floating point data structure. These are inherently inaccurate. Try the following out in the ruby console
(Math::PI).to_l => 3.14159265358979 (Math::PI * 10**13).to_l => 31415926535897.9 This means that the further away from the origin your entities are, the more inaccurate they are. Floats are a lightweight data structure ideal for a program like Sketchup. There are others that are actually capable of manipulating irrational numbers (pi, square root of two...check out GMP) without ever loosing accuracy but they are very heavy weight and only really necessary if you're, I don't know, sending a rocket to the moon or something. Sketchup overcomes this floating point inaccuracy by allowing for a little tollerance but as you can see the difference is still there point1.to_s + point2.to_s => (258,878708mm, 172,933835mm, 0mm)(0mm, 0mm, 0mm) point1.z == point2.z => true point1.to_a => [10.1920751212053, 6.80841870273468, 1.77635683940025e-015] point2.to_a => [0.0, 0.0, 0.0] Nonetheless Sketchup is a great tool and its inaccuracy (that is also present in those other "more professional" packages!) can be overlooked 99% of the time. Hope this was of use to anyone.
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???
Quite so, I have to deal with this often in my "alter ego" as an audio DSP designer. The fact that us humans use decimal, and PC's use binary also has some consequences for accuracy. Just as decimal cannot exactly represent 1/3, binary cannot exactly represent 1/10 - the value to be represented and the number base have unshared prime factors. A lot of software will display rounded values, so that they look a little more palatable to us humans - but it is a mistake to assume that the display value is exactly the same as the underlying float number. If your display is telling you that your dimension is exactly 0.1units, it is probably lying, as a float number simply cannot have exactly that value, only an approximation. Never occured to me before, but in this binary age, maybe the traditional "powers of two" divisions of the inch make more sense than decimal notation - those power of two factors can always be represented precisely in binary (up to the limit of the bit-depth) - so 1/16" really is 1/16, whereas 0.1m is only pretending!
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???Well, thank god for construction industry standards allowing actual built accuracy to be 1/16" in ten feet or greater for different trades!
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???
See my 3-16 post above and has been addressed before. The reason some packages show more accuracy the spec allows for extened or extendable implimentations. The single float 32 is only good to 7.225 digits. Last edited by mac1 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Sketchup is Inacurrate???Regarding my original assertion about the inaccuracy of the follow me tool -- I now understand I had not set up my work to be "compatible" with the way follow me works. Had I added tangents to each end of my arc and extruded the face along tangent, arc, tangent I'd get a middle section that was exactly what I wanted.
I'm not sure how to judge the implications of that fact WRT accuracy but I do know it is less work for me to do it that way than I had to deal with before and so while I'm not 100% happy about it, it is a better method. To everyone who helped to explain this, my thanks!
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that tolerance should be set aside for the builders though.. with framing, i generally give my crew an 1/8" before i start bching at them or start contemplating a redo.. but, if i do that in the drawing.. say, give myself an eight in the model, then i'm looking at 1/4" errors onsite.. or, my crew has to be 100% perfect according to the drawing (i.e.-basically impossible) EDIT well, i already do cut in to the tolerance a bit when handing out a cultist.. everything is rounded to the 16th" even if the drawing calls for x/32" etc.. but yeah, there's definitely some allowable play in there.. i just prefer the drawing or calculations to be as close to perfect as possible (mainly because i think it IS possible.. we are dealing with computers here ).. and as i said early in the thread, sketchup is highly accurate and 100% capable of fulfilling my needs.. the rest of my babbling about in this thread has be regarding one small situation which (i feel) is mistreated in sketchup.. and i can still draw those parts accurately in sketchup-- i just use a different approach than whats offered in the automated toolset (offset tool/followme tool) dotdotdot
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