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Hairston: Larger Class Sizes Due to Economy
After eliminating 196 positions in this year's budget, school officials respond to reports that class sizes have gone up significantly at the high school level.
Baltimore County Public Schools Superintendent Joe Hairston Tuesday night defended the loss of 196 teaching positions, resulting in larger high school class sizes, saying he had no alternative given state and county budgets.
Hairston told the Baltimore County Board of Education at its meeting in Towson that the economy has forced tough decisions.
"We have no control over the economy. We have no control over the budget," Hairston said to members of the board. "We preserved our employees."
The school system's budget did not include furloughs or layoffs and had to account for an increase in insurance costs and a small pay raise for teachers.
Hairston and several school staff said that eliminating positions was the only way to balance a budget in a time when state and county funding to public schools was essentially flat.
Barbara Burnopp, the chief financial officer for Baltimore County Public Schools, said that when the board passed the budget for the current fiscal year in 2011, it wasn't expecting an increase in funding from the county or the state. The projections hold true for this year as well, she said.
"We have three years at Maintenance-of-Effort budget," she said, referring to the minimum amount of funding that counties are required by law to give school systems.
"That, considering some of our fellow counties, is good," she said.
An article in the Baltimore Sun last week reported that class sizes have grown in Baltimore County after the school system cut the 196 teaching positions for the current fiscal year.
Assistant Superintendent Donald Peccia said a total of 31 positions were given at the elementary school level to accommodate an additional 500 students who enrolled at the elementary level across the county. Although positions were eliminated through attrition, Peccia said that compared to last year, staffing is up by 51 positions at the high school level.
Also this year, the number of Advanced Placement classes offered at the high school level has increased from 410 to 429 classes, he said.
Hairston said that the decisions the school system made were responsible.
"What is the alternative, given the fact that we're one of the most stable school systems in the entire country given our scope and scale," he said.
Baltimore County Public Schools is the 26th largest school system in the nation.
Board members affirmed Hairston's remarks, also adding that the situation could be worse for Baltimore County.
Board member David Uhlfelder quoted an article in The New York Times about school districts in Texas in which teachers were cleaning classrooms several times a week due to cutbacks in custodial staff.
"We have an economic crisis. As a board, we chose the issue that affect the less people," he said. "I can't visualize our teachers sweeping the classrooms and putting the trash out."
Board President Lawrence Schmidt said that he would at least like some study of the effect of larger class sizes on student performance.
"Ultimately I think we're a data-driven system. Although maybe intutively, larger class sizes are not desirable, it's incumbent on us as a system to figure out what large class sizes mean to the kids," he said.
12:49 am on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
Did he bring Antero Pietela's book with him again ? Can't forget the crutch......
Buzz Beeler
9:13 am on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
How soon we forget! The no bid contract and what was that name of his associates teaching approach.
I'm sure at that level the word accountability is defined.
K Blue
12:12 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
With all of the upcoming school construction, I sure hope they have reexamined and revised the "policies" that reportedly caused a loss of $7 million connected to the construction of Milford Mill.
Stuart Merenbloom
10:17 am on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
I am sure that most people are NOT aware of the amount of money that is WASTED by BCPS each year. There are textbooks sitting unused in warehouses because of mis-communication; staff is NOT allowed to purchase needed items, such as textbooks, from venders who BCPS does NOT deal with ( for example: a science text that COULD have been bought for $28.00 per copy from vender "B" was NOT bought because BCPS had to buy them from vendor "A" for three times as much. There are curriculum that was purchased from an outside vendor sitting unused in warehouses. Why in the name of G-d would BCPS buy a curriculum, at a large sum I'm sure, and have it just sit in a warehouse? Why in the name of G-d would BCPS have to buy a curriculum at all when they have an Office of Curriculum as well as dozens of professionals who SHOULD be able to assess the educational needs/content/benchmarks etc. of a subject area and then create its OWN curriculum. Lastly, the board goes on a retreat yearly to meet-at a non-BCPS location..$$$spent on hotels, food and transportation...what's wrong with meeting at Greenwood? No $$ for teachers??
K Blue
9:29 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
I remember reading about the large order of outdated grammar books that occurred because someone in admin dropped the ball (Dezmon I think) and okay'ed the order without sufficiently reviewing it. I dont think those books were ever returned. I also remember reading that there were at least 7 Assistant Superintendents making about $150,000 each. There is also a position titled Assistant to the Assistant Superintendent and that position pays about $100,000. Question I have is how many Assistants to the Assistant Superintendents are there -- one for every Assistant Superintendent, or more than one? If I am not mistaken, the head of Curriculum position has more or less been a revolving door. We just finished paying an exhorbitant salary for an inexperienced Deputy Superintendent who spent less than a year with BCPS before applying for 2 Superintendent positions and eventually landing one in Howard County, so that was money wasted if you ask me. They need to be more selective in who they choose to replace the outgoing Deputy (if anyone) and get a firm commitment that they will not cut-and-run within 'x' number of years or use the position strictly as a resume builder. As for the yearly Board retreat, I recall reading that the most recent meeting was not held off-site as in years past, but on-site.
Harry Callahan
10:17 am on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
I'm sick of hearing all of this hand wringing about class sizes. When I graduated from grade school at a parochial school in Baltimore City in 1962 we had 63 students in each of 3 eigth grade classes. In high school, there were between 40-50 students in each class. We never had any problems leaning anything despite these large class sizes. Maybe it was because my parents and the parents of everyone in my class all had high expectations of them and all of the parents demonstrated a high degree of interest in our education. I was the first person in my father's and mother's family to graduate from high school and college.
5:11 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
eighth not 'eigth'
'We never had any problems learning anything despite these large class sizes.' Poorly written. Also should be 'in spite of' not 'despite' which is more a colloquialism.
'...had high expectations of them...' Subject/pronoun disconnect.
'I was' Incorrect, should be 'I am.'
See the issue now?
5:21 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
jus cause we dont speak good or spell like you . dont mean we ain't smart to .
Other Tim
5:47 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
All of your comments are "poorly written". You have run on sentences and missing commas, you started a sentence with lower case, etc.
Also, according to Dictionary.com, the first definition of "despite" is "in spite of".
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7:10 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
eye shorely wish eye wud of gotten the edgucation that Mr. JDStuts got himself. Thats sum fine skoolin'! Y, eye betcha he gots one of them pee-h-dees, u no, so's he can call himself "Dokter." i am sinceerly jelus.
Perry Hall Mom
11:24 am on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
The school system wastes a lot of money and throws away a lot for stuff never even opened. I had a friend who worked in maintenance for BCPS and he told us of all the stuff that was thrown away. Why not have an auction and make some money for the schools. The kids in school who are not in the top classes are the kids who suffer with larger classes. The teachers don't have time for the students and they never get there questions answered. I have a child in a gt class at Perry Hall High and the classes are so big the teacher doesn't have time for all her students and I here about it weekly. BCPS does not care about the kids just about their ranking. If you can't afford more teachers then get rid of the bad teachers and get some teachers who know what they are doing. The county is full of bad teachers. It is not just teachers it is administrators, athletic directors and coaches. I have 3 more years at BCPS and I am already counting down the days when I don't have to deal with them anymore.
10:01 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Amen...I have a daughter graduating this year and she can't wait to get out of Perry Hall High.
Bonnie Busta
11:30 am on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
Why not try and get rid of the bureaucrats that bloat the system., and oh yes, what about the exorbitant salary going to the new superintendent? Whatever happened to the simpler and way more efficient system we had in the fifties and sixties? The situation is absolutely appalling
K Blue
12:10 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
There needs to be a top-to-bottom audit of every contract for textbooks and materials and an up-to-date inventory. We live in a competitive society. There is no justification, other than laziness, for not carefully scrutinizing and perhaps justifying long-standing contracts with particular vendors in these lean times. They should also examine each outside lease they hold for space and look closely at their vehicle inventory and maintenance.
11:22 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
I couldn't agree more! Talk about the federal and state governments not communicating properly? It happens in this system daily! LAZY is the name of the game in Baltimore County. It sickens me to think this is going to be allowed but they are projecting to hire as many as 400 elementary school teachers.
K Blue
12:18 pm on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Unfortunately, neither Baltimore County government (executive or legislative) nor the the state legislators have any control over the school system. That power is vested in the school board fully appointed by the Governor and in the State Superintendent, none of whom are elected. The local officials can try to persuade the local school system and/or the school board, but they have zero power to enforce. The only way at this point to have done what needs to be done is if the Superintendent or board want it done. Hopefully, that will change next legislative session.
7:57 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012
K Blue
That's not true. We can pester the state until they give us the hybrid elected/appointed board we deserve. The recent bill failed because the board did not want changes made during the hiring of the new Superintendent. Well that's done now. We need at least part of the board to be elected officials.
K Blue
10:15 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012
Lily, I am not quite sure which part(s) of my comment you believe is untrue. It is my understanding that the recent hybrid bill failed, not because of the reasons you suggest (which caused a delay in bringing the bill to final vote), but because time literally ran out on the last day of session. Reportedly, it was the next bill in line for a vote, but time expired. Hopefully, the vote will come up next session. But, unless you know something I do not, at present neither the AG, the state legislators, the local legislators or the County Executive have enforceable power or authority over the Board or the Superintendent on school system issues.
9:17 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012
K Blue,
You seemed to imply that since no one has authority over the school board etc that there is nothing we can do. That was the part I thought was untrue. We should be solidly pushing for that hybrid board because that's the only accountability within grasp.
Really the time just ran out? Somehow I misunderstood that fact. That's awesome if they don't have to start over from scratch with the whole process and can pick it up next season.
K Blue
1:04 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
Lily, I will try to find the article about the final result of the hybrid bill and post it here. Time literally ran out. It was bottled up in committee for the longest time because of opposition outside the County delegations, then on the last day of the session, those in our County delegations were able to get it out of committee around 11pm, but because of the concentration on the budget bill in those final hours it never came to a vote. It was next on the list. Midnight came and it died. It is my understanding that the hybrid bill will be among the first to be put in next session. Originally, the House and the Senate put in differing bills: one called for a fully elected, the other for a hybrid. Eventually, a compromise was reached by both chambers for the hybrid. If it had come to a vote, it would have passed. It had the necessary support, or so I am led to believe.
K Blue
1:07 pm on Thursday, June 14, 2012
Lily, here is a good synopsis.
Paul Amirault
5:07 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
A compelling argument could be made that the most unaccountable figure in Baltimore County government is the superintendent of public schools. The superintendent controls 50% of the entire tax collections of the county and basically can do whatever he wants. Hmmm.
Donna McDonough
5:56 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
I too had large classes in the 60's and I learned in spite of them. BUT I am an elementary school teacher in BCPS and proud parent of 2 graduates who completed college. Things have changed since the 60's when many moms were home to help with homework and volunteer in the schools. Even with my own children, there were fewer distractions for kids and more stay at home parents. Today's kids are raised on tv and video games so they do not learn to sit still and persevere by reading, playing games, or play with friends to learn conflict resolution skills. They learn to do things and get info in short bursts. So the large classes of the past were doable with kids who could sit still and pay attention. Today, it is not uncommon to have 50-75% of a class with serious attentional issues. Try putting 40 kids who can't pay attend with one teacher. I can give you anecdotal evidence of this. Teachers make a difference, textbooks and bureaucrats rarely do!
Ann Isenhower
11:28 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
The themes of 12 years of articles about the BCPS are as follows: lack of transparency in decision making; wasteful spending; no coordination among the departments e.g. those who write curriculum and those who purchase curriculum; executive staff and salaries; an appointed board vs.an elected board. I add these examples of the continual rationale urging the public to support whatever decision is made by the board. Ex. 1."That, considering some of our fellow counties, is good," she( Barbara Burnopp) said. Ex. 2: "... David Uhlfelder quoted an article in The New York Times about school districts in Texas in which teachers were cleaning classrooms several times a week due to cutbacks in custodial staff." This adolescent rationale (Yeah, I got drunk at the party, I'm not as bad as Jon across the street!), is insulting. I can think of no worse school system than one that doesn't realize the same problems persist in 2012 that were present in 2000. My son graduated this spring from an out of state liberal arts college ranked in the top 20 in the nation. He said it best, "I went to private school for the first 8 years of my education and chose to go to a BCPS for H.S. to broaden my experience and take AP classes. I realized my freshman year in college that my time attending this well thought of BCPS high school was a 4 year break from education. My daughter graduates next week; I am glad to be done. Ann Isenhower
11:32 pm on Wednesday, May 23, 2012
Just a couple of insights from an insider:
It's actually the top kids that suffer from large classes - gt classes are usually busting at the seams because extra staffing is used to teach the bottom kids to improve MSA scores. Top kids score well so the admin sets them as a low priority.
There is TONS of waste and surplus - unfortunately by law the system can't hold "yard sales" to recoup loses.
It's actually alot cheaper to purchase curriculum that has been field tested and validated. It costs a ton to pay teachers to write and revise curriculum. In addition, it is a SLOW Process. There is a detailed protocol in place now that requires two years to fully implement a new curriculum. More red tape and BS than you can imagine.
Paul is right - the super has a free ticket .
BCPS has gotten too big to effectively manage. It should be broken down into five areas NE, NW, Central, SE and SW. Each area has a very unique set of needs that aren't getting met with the current system.
Stuart Merenbloom
9:25 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
All of the above bibkerring about grammar/spelling etc. is a waste of time as this is a forum; not a test. The two primary problems with ALL education are the over-all lack of respect for teachers and the accountability placed on teachers. American teachers get no respect from the average citizen. In other countries, teachers are viewed in the same light as doctors/laywers etc..The accountability issue places undue stress/pressure on our teachers. They are now evaluated (a large %) according to how well their students do on the standard tests that the kids have to take in order to graduate. A teacher can NOT go into Johnny's home and make him study/do homework/work on projects etc. Accountability is fine in industry; if you make a toaster and it doesn't work, then it is YOUR fault. If Johnny fails the MSA because he doe not give a damn and his parents can not control him-it's the teachers fault?
Stuart Merenbloom
9:27 am on Thursday, May 24, 2012
Yeah...I spelt bickerring rong...mist b cause i wents to skool in baltimore city hon
9:01 pm on Thursday, May 24, 2012
I think it is just great to be held accountable for student achievement. On Tuesday, I gave a test with 25 selected response questions (they used to be called multiple choice). I first handed out the scantron forms, you know, with the bubbles to fill in. Then I started handing out the tests and noted that 3 students had already finished bubbling in their answers! Before they even had the test! And I am to be evaluated on their test scores. It is a wonderful life...
Stuart Merenbloom
6:23 am on Friday, May 25, 2012
It is just another example of that old attage" FLUNK NOW......AVOID THE JUNE RUSH".
I am really glad I am no longer teaching...I did sp. ed. and my last group had to take the MSA with accommodations...still an up hill battle...really not fair to use student performance/achievement to evaluate teachers...those teachers who have AP or GT classes kind of have a lead over those who do sp.ed or basic classes.


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This photo was taken just a few days back as the production team began to prepare this vintage for a summertime debut. Just before they got to work, Dave had a grin from ear to ear as he opened the door to a filling tank and motioned for me get a look and smell at what he was about to bottle. Now, when Dave Reilly asks me to stick my head in a tank, I am usually skeptical of his motives. Luckily, the aroma of the 2012 Rosé was already filling the room, so I knew he was just showing off. We have been regularly tasting this wine for a few months (sometimes two to three times a day- you know, just to be sure), so we already knew that Dave had every right to be proud of this pink stunner. Aromatic, well balanced, and elegant- all of the hallmarks of a great dry Rosé. Be on the lookout for this wine in the very near future!
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Jeff Schudel's NFL notes: Versatile fullback Smelley can help Browns be 'multiple'
Life has gone pretty smoothly for Brad Smelley so far, so there is no way he wants the good times to end now.
Smelley grew up in Tuscaloosa, Ala. He never missed an Alabama home game because his parents owned season tickets. Then when he was a junior at American Christian High School in Tuscaloosa, Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban offered him a full ride to Alabama. He had numerous other offers, but at that moment those letters from rival schools were more valuable as fire starters.
Two national championships later, Smelley is in Browns rookie camp as a seventh-round draft pick. He is a hybrid fullback/tight end.
During practice Saturday, he lined up at fullback with former Crimson Tide teammate Trent Richardson behind him at tailback. Smelley led the way through a hole and Richardson followed, just as he did so many times the last three years in college.
"That's my vision (for the NFL)," Smelley said after practice Saturday morning. "It's great to be with him, and he's a great guy to have on your team. I'm working every day to get better."
Coaches often talk about a culture of winning in the locker room. Smelley and Richardson carry that into the Browns' locker room after beating Texas for the BCS national championship in 2010 and LSU in January. Florida in 2007 and 2009 is the only other school to win two BCS titles in three years since the championship series was created in 1998.
"It was special," Smelley, 6-foot-2, 235 pounds, said. "We had a really good run. Coach Saban and all those guys around the organization were unbelievable. That's what happens when you get a group of guys with a common goal. That's what we did."
The Browns can use Smelley in several ways. He is competing with second-year fullback Owen Marecic at that position and Alex Smith, Cameron Jordan and Benjamin Watson for a spot at tight end. The one tight end likely safe on the roster is Evan Moore.
"He can play on the line of scrimmage, he can play in the backfield and we use a tight end/fullback type guy like that," Coach Pat Shurmur said. "That helps you when you have a guy that can line up on the end of the line of scrimmage, maybe line up in the slot or also play from the backfield. It allows you to be somewhat multiple."
Smelley caught 54 passes at Alabama. He caught 34 his senior season. Continued...
Game on
Brandon Weeden, the presumptive starting quarterback, hasn't met Colt McCoy yet. That is about to change.
The rookies in camp this weekend will join the veterans on Monday when the offseason conditioning program resumes. Part of the program includes coaching on the field, which means McCoy, Weeden and Seneca Wallace will be throwing passes side by side.
Unfortunately, those sessions are closed to the media.
'Wow' says it all
Shurmur was asked about Richardson's physique after the morning practice Saturday.
"Wow," Shurmur said. "He is a very powerful man and he is powerfully built. Don't let the 5-9 and a half (inch) fool you. He is almost 230 pounds, and that is a lot of muscle packed into that body. He's got a very powerful build, much like we thought when we drafted him, and it shows up on the field."
New training device
The easiest assistant coach to spot — and hear — is newcomer Nolan Cromwell, who has the title of senior assistant - offense. Cromwell is working primarily with the receivers.
At Cromwell's urging, the equipment staff put together a set of white poles about seven feet high made of PVC pipe and about four inches in diameter. Sand is in the U-shaped pipes at the base of the poles to hold them upright. Continued...
Receivers stand behind the poles and catch passes thrown to them. The drill teaches players to catch the ball with their hands in front of the poles rather than use their bodies to catch the ball.
Shurmur said Cromwell used the same drill while he and Cromwell were with the Rams. The poles are moved from the sidewalk to the grass just outside the locker room near the conclusion of practice so the receivers go through the drill before their day ends.
Piping up
One more Cromwell note: Near the end of the morning practice, Weeden rolled out to the left and fired a strike to tight end Joseph Halhuni. It was Weeden's most impressive throw of the day because he made it on the run.
"Nice throw, Weeds!" Cromwell shouted.
Rookies signed
The Browns waited until Saturday to announce eight drafted rookies have signed. Many of the signings have already been reported: Offensive tackle Mitchell Schwartz, a second-round pick from Cal; defensive tackle John Hughes, third-round pick from Cincinnati; wide receiver Travis Benjamin, fourth-round pick from Miami, Fla.; linebacker James-Michael Johnson, fourth-round pick from Nevada; offensive lineman Ryan Miller, fifth-round pick from Colorado; defensive lineman Billy Winn, sixth-round pick from Boise State; Smelley and cornerback Devin Wade, a seventh-round pick from Arizona State. All are four-year deals.
Linebacker Emmanuel Acho, a sixth-round pick from Texas, has signed, according to Scout.com, but the Browns have not announced it yet.
First-round picks Richardson and Weeden are unsigned.
Around the AFC North Continued...
-- Ravens running back Ray Rice is balking at signing his $7.7 million franchise tender, but neither he nor the Ravens seem to be fretting.
"I actually have the burning desire to come back, not only for myself, but to come back ready to play," Rice told reporters. "I'm going to do my job and bring a Super Bowl back to Baltimore."
-- Bengals rookie tight end Orson Charles says his mentor is Browns tight end Watson. Both are from the University of Georgia. They will be rivals in the fall, but for now, Watson, a nine-year veteran, is helping Charles acclimate to the NFL.
"I ask him a lot of questions," Charles said. "We have similar size. I'm grateful to have him in my corner."
-- It is only May, but at this point, the scheme new Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley is installing has been difficult for the players to grasp.
"Right now, we're way behind," quarterback Ben Roethlisberger told reporters. "We're all asking each other what's going on. Coach Haley is not only coaching the players. He's coaching the coaches."
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I thought it was only me and my unique response to food. Are you like me and have a hard time after eating beans and grains? Do you gain fat when you eat even whole "non-refined" healthy carbohydrates like brown rice, nuts, and seeds?
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I learned a food tip from Jon Benson's ebook Simply Eat: soak all grains, legumes for 24 hours prior to cooking them. I remember that my grandmother used to soak legumes, beans over night, but somehow for many years, I never adopted the habit of soaking, rinsing, and slightly sprouting grains and legumes, seeds and nuts. I stopped eating these foods for a few months. Now I know it's not just me and what to do to enjoy eating, legumes, rice, seeds and nuts again .
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Saratoga Chamber Music Festival pulls some strings
SARATOGA SPRINGS — "Chamber music has become a lot more high-visibility," said cellist Keith Robinson, a founding member of the Miami String Quartet. "It used to be that piano recitals were the highest visibility. But now there are more string quartets than ever, and the interest in them is greater than ever."
And, he laughed, "It's a great way of making a living, if you can get it."
Audiences at the Saratoga Performing Arts Center will have an opportunity this weekend to see how Robinson and his colleagues make a living as SPAC's annual Saratoga Chamber Music Festival begins at 2:15 p.m. Sunday with the first of two programs featuring the highly regarded Miami String Quartet. Chamber Music Festival performances are in the more intimate setting of Spa Little Theater, on the SPAC grounds.
The festival lineup will include an appearance by cellist Johannes Moser at 2:15 p.m. Sunday, Aug. 5, which will follow his solo cello performance Aug. 4 with the Philadelphia Orchestra on SPAC's amphitheater stage.
The Wister Quartet and Friends will perform at |8 p.m. Aug. 7, and violinist David Kim will be the featured artist at 2:15 p.m. Sunday, Aug. 12.
The festival will conclude on Aug. 14 with an appearance by an exciting quartet from France, the Quator Ebène.
To assemble this lineup, pianist Andre-Michel Schub, the festival's director, drew heavily from his personal contacts. He will sit in on many of the programs as a guest artist, including with the Miami String Quartet.
"This is the first time we've played in Saratoga, but not the first time we've played with Andre," Robinson said of the quartet. "It's a treat to be reunited with him."
Robinson is no stranger to SPAC, either.
"My brother is actually with the Philadelphia Orchestra, so I've been up here several times," he said. "It's quite a place and we're excited to be performing here." Continued...
The original members of the quartet began performing together in 1988 as students at Philadelphia's prestigious Curtis Institute before they were offered a residency at Miami's New World School for the Arts, which inspired their name.
When offered a residency at Ohio's Kent/Blossom Festival, the quartet began what has been an ongoing association. Robinson serves as the festival's artistic director. The quartet was quartet-in-residence at Kent State University beginning in 2004 and has resided there full-time since, all the while retaining their name and making frequent appearances in the Sunshine State.
The ensemble's lineup has changed a great deal in the past two years, owing first to a career-ending injury by one of its performers and the departure of a second. But with the group's new lineup firmly set and a new manager overseeing their appearances, "we're all revved up again," Robinson said.
For Sunday afternoon's inaugural performance at the 2012 Saratoga Chamber Music Festival, the quartet will sandwich a couple of classics around a work that reflects their commitment to modern repertoire: Joan Towers' "Incandescence for String Quartet," one of a pair of works by the composer that they are preparing to record this fall.
"It's a wonderful piece in one movement, all fiery," Robinson said.
Bracketing it will be Beethoven's "String Quartet in C Minor Op. 18, No. 4" and a work by Brahms. Schub will join them to play "Piano Quintet, Op. 34," an impressive finale.
"It's a piece we've played with Andre before," Robinson said. "You can't do too much after Brahms."
Except maybe Mozart.
Tuesday night, following Schub's weekly "Early On Tuesdays" program at 7, a pre-concert discussion of the evening's fare, the quartet will perform an |all-Mozart program at Schub's request featuring piano and string quartets and concluding with the composer's challenging "Piano Concerto in E flat Major, K. 449," with Schub sitting in for the first and last works on the program.
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— 2:15 p.m. July 29: Three Centuries of Masterpieces,
Miami String Quartet, Andre-Michel Schub, piano
— 8 p.m. July 31: A Mozart Celebration, Miami String Quar
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I've heard Jerusalem (which is a snoozefest I agree) and Sleep's Holy Mountain. Holy Mountain is definitely better than Jerusalem/Dopesmoker, but they are trying a bit too hard to sound like Sabbath without being anywhere near as good. That and the vocals really not being my cup of tea. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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Greatest Doom Metalbands are:
1. Black Sabbath
2. Pentagram
3. Witchfidner General
4. Sleep
5. Bedemon (Pre-Pentagram)
6. Electric Wizard
7. Candlemass
Well Bedemon was more contemporary with Pentagram, rather than pre-dating them, but a nice project/band nonetheless
yeah they are great! I searched for CDs and found "Child of Darkness", bought it but there wasnt any other cd. But on the bands website there is something written from material of a 2002 jam? do you anything about it or more bedemon cds?
Child of Darkness is the only official Bedemon release so far, but an album has been in the works since 2002.
But I saw a "Invocation of Doom" -CD somewhere, the playlist was the same as on the Child of Darkness but in a different order and some other songtitles, I think. Whats this?
Good new for Saint Vitus fans! Dave Chandler has announced that a plan for reissuing the early albums (originally on SST Records) is in the works!
For those of you who don't know, the band's first, self-titled LP was only available briefly on CD and their 2nd album, "Hallow's Victim", has never been issued in CD.
this stuff is pretty good.
I see that the name Candlemass has already been brought up but I would like to double that by saying that they are the only band that conjures up the same feelings for me as Sabbath without sounding like a Sabbath clone. Definetly one of my all time favorite bands right up there with Sabbath in my humble book.
And yes the main songwriter for Candlemass Leif Edling has a solo open which is now officially out. It a very dark and heavy album and a bit of a departure from his style of writing in Candlemass.
Leif Edling also has a group called Krux which is more of a stoner rock sound very steeped in 70s doom. Worth checking out also if they haven't been mentioned already.
You really think so? I never thought that they sounded all that different from Candlemass to be honest, apart from some slightly more alternative ideas from time to time, and the voice of Mats Leven. That being said, I certainly prefer the latest Krux album to the latest from Candlemass. It's quite surprising how much the 2 differ in quality when you take into consideration that they were for most parts written by the same guy without much time between the 2.
@ Sir Kenneth
Yes there are definetly similarities between the two bands as Leif Edling is the mostly sole songwriter for both but I feel Krux is more of a 70s doom vibe. Have you ever heard the Candlemass album "From the 13th Sun"? it is very heavy and very much sounding like Sabbath Master of Reality era. I think Krux was a natural contiuation of this era of the band.
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Krux is great, although it's a slightly different direction from Candlemass. One might say, after the release of CM's King of the Grey Islands, that the two bands are starting to sound alike. Krux, to me, is more of a follow-up to the experimental albums Leif Edling released in late 90s, whether as Candlemass or Abstrakt Algebra.
And yes, From the 13th Sun is a (shameless) attempt to copy early Sabbath (but then again, looks like it's not the unusual thing in the Doom / Stoner world). I can't yet decide whether I like it or hate it. Some songs are good but the album is plagued with boring filler.
"There's only one Black Sabbath... I like to call him Tony Iommi" - racer
I also have the Las Cruces Ring Master.
Saint Vitus is great!!
The Obsessed is good.
The Hidden Hand is also great!!!!!!!!!!
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I may repeat a few already mentioned, but there should also be a few new recommendations as well. Most fall into the traditional, Sab-influenced doom category (with links to music):
01. BEDEMON (PENTAGRAM spin-off with sometime Pentagram guitarist Randy Palmer. Since other members of Pentagram rounded out the lineup, they sound very similar)
02. COUNT RAVEN (Swedish doom)
03. DEATH ROW (basically mid-period PENTAGRAM once Victor Griffin joined...they changed the name back to PENTAGRAM in 1985)
04. GOLIATH (feat. Mick Rowe formerly of TEMPEST)
05. THE HIDDEN HAND (another of Wino's bands)
06. THE HOUNDS OF HASSELVANDER (PENTAGRAM's Joe Hasselvander's new band)
07. HypNoGoG (jam-doom project of Dan Lively)
08. KYUSS (more finely executed stoner stuff)
09. LAST CHAPTER (epic doom metal in the vein of SOLITUDE AETURNUS and CANDLEMASS with prog influences)
10. MY SILENT WAKE (UK gothic death doom featuring Ian Arkley of SEVENTH ANGEL and ASHEN MORTALITY)
11. THE OBSESSED (Wino's earliest band)
12. PENTAGRAM (Bobby Liebling's brainchild with a history reaching back to pre-1971, their catalogue is very diverse)
13. PLACE OF SKULLS (feat. Victor Griffin of PENTAGRAM/DEATH ROW)
14. PREMONITION 13 (Wino's latest band)
15. ROSE (aka RANDY ROSE feat. Randy Rose formerly of MAD AT THE WORLD)
16. SAINT VITUS (one of the earliest purveyors of Sabbath-influenced doom, along with TROUBLE)
17. SHEAVY (the band that recorded "Electric Sleep" and sounded so much like Sabbath that the song was passed off as a rare Sabbath outtake in the early 2000's)
18. SLEEP (stoner at its finest)
19. SPIRIT CARAVAN (one of Scott "Wino" Weinrich's many bands)
20. STARCHILD (very SLEEP-like, very good)
21. SWEET CICADA (doom with a slightly prog vibe by Dan Lively)
22. TROGLODYTE DAWN (my band...kind of a doom/ambient hybrid...think Sabbath meets Tangerine Dream)
23. TROUBLE (one of the earliest purveyors of Sabbath-influenced doom, along with SAINT VITUS)
24. WINO (Scott "Wino" Weinrich's solo project)
25. WITCHFINDER GENERAL (Doom stylings from the NWOBHM)
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Clarification to the above on #3, Death Row - This was an independently-operating band, started by Joe and Victor - They later hooked up with Bobby who had lost his entire band at the time, and operated for a little while as Death Row with Bobby singing - Given Bobby's extensive back catalog, they did a lot of his songs - Shortly thereafter, wanting to get the former's fan base along for the ride, they changed the name to Pentagram since Bobby was singing and they were largely playing Pentagram tunes.
Here's the title track to the new HOUNDS OF HASSELVANDER album "The Ninth Hour" - CRANK IT!!!
All the best,
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@Trog: I'm fairly new to the whole Doom Metal genre beyond Sabbath, but my interest in the genre has recently peaked with looking at Pentagram. That list of bands is certainly going to keep me busy, so thanks for that. I'm assuming those are some of the best choices for a person beginning to delve into doom metal?
Those are definitely my favorites and the ones I would personally recommend, but there are certainly a TON more. I tend to stick pretty close to the traditional doom sound created by Sabbath, so a lot of those I posted are in that vein. The genre has really exploded in the past few years though and now boasts its own plethora of sub- and sub-sub-genres.
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It should also be noted that #13 above, Place of Skulls, also features Wino on 2003's With Vision. I highly recommend The Obsessed's Lunar Womb.
If you have an eight year old son, and you're getting fat anyway...
you're doing something wrong.
I also highly HIGHLY recommend Blood Farmers. I just started getting into them. They should have gotten much more recognition....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot2Wj...eature=related - The Holy Chalice
Another newer group called Orchid is pretty damn awesome too. They are pretty much a complete and total Sabbath tribute but they have a nice fresh sound.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9893iNWE8w - He Who Walks Alone
Blood Ceremony is another great one. They are like Black Sabbath meets Jethro Tull meets Coven. Good stuff!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl7vM-eglY4 - Oliver Haddo
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40 Watt Sun - The Inside Room.
To everyone: check out that album if you haven't.
If you are a false don't entry, the nuclear drums will crush your brain
Because you'll be burned and died, slaughtering all with intensive pain
Get out here and destroy all; killing all falses, bastardsSarcofago, Deathrash
Because is this what we want, this is our message
LOL A late addition, got it, and yes, thank you! lol
While I'm here, I'll throw WINTER into the mix. I tend to gravitate toward noisy stuff myself, and this certainly fits in. Definite HELLHAMMER influence on this plodding sludgy misery... Great! http://youtu.be/lW9yijB-lwg
All the best,
Doom Metal Alliance Records released my band Arise Within-The Best Of it is up on thier site.
What do you guys think of Cathedral, my local CD shop has around 5-6 of there disks in new remastered form and with nice covers etc. I have done some reading on them and I hear that they are like a cross between Hawkwind(lyrically) and Black Sabbath(musically). I will probably probe YouTube for some of their songs; but any advice on them is much appreciated.
Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law
Cathedral is my favourite "modern" Doom band...although some call them "stoner" which is a term I've never understood. It's doom and it's simple as that.
I'd start off with Carnival Bizarre, then Etherial Mirror and Supernatural Birth Machine. Forest Of Equilibrium, their debut is a really slow and doomy album. Also from their later years The VIIth Coming is brilliant.
Lee Dorrian's vocals seem to split people a bit, I love 'em, but some hate them. But he adds a lot to the sound and his vocals are very unique.
-Too many flames, with too much to burn, and life's only made of paper. Oh how I need to be free of this pain but it goes over and over and over again-
I don't sense much similarity between Cathedral and Hawkwind or Black Sabbath (two bands I have been listening to enthusiastically for over 30 years). I'm somewhat of a newbie when it comes to Cathedral but what I've heard so far (probing youtube) I like.
If you have an eight year old son, and you're getting fat anyway...
you're doing something wrong.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail pic extravaganza! http://www.black-sabbath.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31523
Thanks guys for all the feedback and recommendations! I have been checking them out on Youtube and I like what I have heard so far. I agree with you Franklin that what I was reading was not a true representation of their sound ...I am not seeing any relation to Hawkwind though there is definitely some Sab influences to be heard.
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