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@cityguy: That's quite a charge, accusing our city leaders (and a mayor who had been a lifelong Republican, just like his predecessor) of conspiring to keep the middle class from returning to our city. What evidence do you have in support of this charge?
This is a big problem, many people who can afford to leave the city when they have school age children. Why people in these middle class neighborhoods aren't sending their kid(s) to the neighborhood school would be nice to know.
As for attracting more middle class families to the city, I don't know if City Hall would like that. They seem to have a nice democrat voter base that keeps them in power, I don't know if they'd like middle class and potentially republican voters from the county coming or staying in.
All students CAN attend their neighborhood schools TODAY.
Nobody blames "parents". There ARE no more "parents", much less families. There are only households of children, fathered by various strangers who never had any intention of supporting them, cohabitating with a woman who collects government checks on their behalf (ostensibly). Nothing short of a moral revival is going to do a damn thing about that state of affairs.
But if liberals finally are waking up to the reality that the only cure for poverty is fathers who take responsibility for their children, hallelujah! (Now if they will just acknowledge the other critical requirements: robust free enterprise, and separation of school and state.)
Kathryn, you are absolutely right on every point you made. What are schools supposed to do? - wait around until parents do a better job? As Wayne's World would say, "As if." And it is a shame about the Rochester Children's Zone. What a missed opportunity. Manny was right.
I love it when, in the middle of a city schools discussion, someone ALWAYS says that the problem is parenting. Of course that's a problem. But unless you have a solution for that, the schools still need to deal with poorly parented students. That's where the discussion has to start.
I am continually sorry that Manny Rivera's Children's Zone never went anywhere. That would be where the magic would happen.
I find it very refreshing to hear an Obama supporter finally comment on these issues and that she herself is concerned. For too long I have wondered why the same people that protested Bush and his policies sit silently by as Obama carries on the Bush legacy and continues the endless wars, and the destruction of our civil liberties.
Mary Anna finds a bit of hope in this...
"And I found a bit of hope in his hint (and it wasn't much more than that) that his administration might reconsider its counterterrorism approach. He said he wants to be sure that "our targeting, detention, and prosecution of terrorists remains consistent with our laws and system of checks and balances."
Can you not see that this is the carrot the demagogue dangles before you and those others that drive his carriage? Oh wait you can't see it because you have once again put on your blinders for this guy.
I have long wondered why the former anti-war movement seems to have fizzled out now that we have a Democrat in the White House. He is worse than Bush on civil liberties, executive overreach, and warmongering (and Bush was really bad). Where is the outrage? Where are the protests?
On another note, this Obamacare that you all love is reportedly going to severely limit a woman's ability to get an abortion in 21 states as the insurance companies ( that you will be forced to purchase from) will not be covering abortions. Why are you silent about this? Is it because of the other carrots King Obama dangles in front of your carriage?
Maybe it is finally time to support third party candidates, and get our country back from Demagogues and Corporations!
Mr. Marini,
I'm flattered that you've taken the time to read the WPA website. Perhaps you missed my blog about the several-thousand-dollar donation made on behalf of my organization to the RPO this past June, in the form of the newly-created AMY Award presented to Maestro Remmereit. I would say that constitutes a substantive 'investment,' wouldn't you? As do my visits to Rochester prior to the Music Director's termination and my promotion of the RPO amongst both my music colleagues and via the WPA.
And do we really want to go down the road of who has more 'right,' geographic or otherwise, to voice his/her opinion on the future course of any given orchestra? I note that according to your profile you currently live abroad--does that somehow diminish the value of/invalidate your opinion? I don't think it should, any more than where I currently reside or how long I have been following the RPO should.
The only way the RPO will actually 'learn from this whole debacle' is to not simply paper over mistakes and culpability for the sake of a feel-good 'coming together,' but to conduct a rigorous self-examination, something few institutions are capable of doing without outside 'help.'
I never bought into this "Duffy is our savior" nonsense because apparently I have more common sense than our media. Duffy was tapped to be Lieutenant Governor of NEW YORK. Not Cheerleader for Upstate/Western NY/Rochester. I don't know where people got that idea, but it amuses me every time I hear someone mention it. Politics is FIRST AND FOREMOST about SELF-interest. It has been since Plato wrote The Republic and will be until this planet spins off its axis and into the sun. Anyone who thinks otherwise is naive and needs to go back to elementary school and watch cartoons all day. Duffy became Lieutenant Governor because it is considered a more prestigous post than mayor of a decaying mid-sized city. As Lieutenant Governor, his boss is the Governor. He is a surrogate for Cuomo's interests and agendas. He never has and never will have any independent influence of his own. Never has because Molly Clifford and Joe Morelle pushed him into being mayor by triangulating the vote to outflank the Republicans on the right and the liberals on the left. Never will because now he's Cuomo's boy. As for Cuomo, look up an article on him in New York Magazine from early-2011; the man is a dictatorial Machiavellian of the first order. He will never be President because he doesn't have the personality for it. He may be able to bully the state Senate, but can you imagine him pulling the same crap with Mitch McConnell and John Boehner? Or even Nancy Pelosi? They'd eat him for breakfast.
Why do Buffalo and Syracuse get more aid from the state than Rochester? Wasn't Duffy supposed to fix this inequity?
One name is striking in it's absence from this article...Robert Duffy,
Weren't we told by the local media that Duffy would be a powerful friend at court?
Weren't we told that Andrew's selection of him to be Jr. Ass't Gov. was a clear indication of the new importance that the new governor was placing on Upstate?
Weren't we told that the with Duffy in Albany the fiscal flood gates would open and Rochester would be inundated in a wave of pork?
Could it be that the media was mistaken? A mistake which the wall of silence surrounding Duffy now makes clear?
Could it be that picking Duffy was merely a cynical gesture to temporarily placate upstaters and to throw a sop to the GOP by putting a life-long Republican (and unconvincing convert to the Democratic Party) near the seat of power?
Could be be after all that those of us who joked that Duffy's job would be to pick up Andrew's dry cleaning and schlep his coffee were closer to the truth then we imagined?
Very well written article on a troubling issue. Cuomo usually gets so much love by the press, excluding Fox News of course, but he is angling for a run at the White House in 2016. He doesn't need upstate votes to do this, so we don't matter to him. It is no surprise he can't be bothered to give upstate cities anything more than a shoulder shrug. So much for the hope that Bob Duffy could have any influence.
Mr. DeLoye
Thank you for your support and, more, for your astute insight and further analysis. If the D&C can stop viewing the RPO as its "pinata dejour" we can move forward. The weekend concert was fabulous. Local boy, made good, Maestro Ward Stare and piano phenom Terrence Wilson were huge hits with the audience. That's ultimately what it's all about and all it should be about.
Steve Hess:
You are correct about the pro-Remmereit, or rather the anti-board bias of the D&C.
For example the fact that no rational person would contend that "to some extent the B(uffalo) P(hilharmonic) O(rchestra) is gaining enviable momentum at the expense of the embattled Rochester Philharmonic Orchestra" did not prevent the D&C from making such an asinine statement, as if the two orchestras were competing for the same patron base or the same dollars.
Although this rambling and obviously slapped together editorial correctly states that Owens and Rice, "made a strong case for dismissing Remmereit during a recent meeting with the Editorial Board", the paper still managed to do a quick 180 and somehow argue that, "But in so doing, it was never clearer that RPO management must make radical changes or further risk the prized community institution going the route of the Syracuse orchestra." The only way to reconcile these two statements is to assume that what they meant is that is the original selection of Remmereit was a mistake, a not-altogether incorrect assumption.
The D&C then goes on to contend that, "Rice and Owens must begin to immediately change this toxic environment" as if they and they alone are responsible for the current divisiveness. Kind of like telling the fire department that they're somehow responsible for the activities of pyromaniacs.
And while the inclusion of board members with diverse backgrounds would probably be of long term value to the RPO, what in god's name does this have to do with the current board's termination of Remmereit? Is somebody at the D&C trying to imply that the Remmereit termination was driven by a lack of racial or ethnic sensitivity? Or that more blacks or more Hispanics or more Vietnamese board members would have somehow altered the decision on what was at the end of the day merely a glorified HR matter?
The illogic of the D&C's position reminds me of the line from Orwell's 1984 when Winston Smith contends that, "How can I help seeing what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.", and receives the response, "Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. "
On a broader topic, the Sunday editorial in the D&C is disappointing and illogical. They round up the RPO deficit from an admittedly awful $746K ( nearly ALL in labor costs) to "close to a million" Nitpicking perhaps, but indicative of their bias and agenda. They suggest dropping the Board member financial minimums ($10K a year, actually Board contributions are much more) and letting in supposed new ideas from a more "diverse" Board, urging a free ride on expected annual support. Of course they do not suggest how to replace the hundreds of thousands of dollars that would disappear. How would that improve things? They mention that if these fresh new theoretical Board members can't financially support the orchestra they can get their friends to contribute. Simplistic and disingenuous. Anyone who has served on non-profit Boards knows that if you are asking friends to write big checks you first have to write your own. Tough world out there. Maestro Remmereit, by the way, was highly critical of the minimum expected RPO Board contribution: he said it was much too low!
A symphonic orchestra runs on money. in the same way a sports team runs on money. Get real. The only difference is that a very talented musician makes a tiny fraction of what a very talented athlete makes. But the principle is the same. Kind of shows where society's values are :(
The D&C gets very substantial advertising dollars from the RPO. I didn't see a community-spirited initiative from them to cut the impoverished orchestra some slack on this. As far as I know, the RPO got no support from the D&C. last year. Easy to talk the talk. If I am wrong on that I would be delighted to be corrected. Further:
I WILL MATCH THE "DEMOCRAT AND CHRONICLE," DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR, UP TO TEN-THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR ANY CASH CONTRIBUTION THEY MAKE TO THE RPO (CHALLENGE GOOD FOR 60 DAYS) Talk is cheap!
The D&C holds up the very fine Buffalo symphony as a shining example on how to do it right, but they conveniently ignored the BFO's 2012 financial report, showing that they had a couple of VERY generous Board heavy hitters who made challenge grants that made a huge difference; much to the BFO's credit. Good for them! God bless them. Every major symphony, I say again, every major symphony has to have very substantial Board contributions to make it. Some call the whole classical music business "elitist," Be that as it may. The truth is it appeals to a relatively small market and is a lousy business model. But for those of us who love fine music, we are willing to dig deep to keep it alive. It can't just be all about "Beyonce"
Liane Curtis -
Ms. Buholtz states..
"Late in the afternoon of January 31, Justice Fisher questioned my subpoenas duces tecum and proposed affidavits,"
" On Feb. 4, Justice Fisher vehemently disapproved of my subpoenas duces tecum and ruled that I cannot use the documents that I had requested from the witnesses. "
" Also on Feb. 4, Justice Fisher denied my requests brought on in my pre-meeting suit and told me to proceed on a post-meeting basis."
Sounds more like a train wreck then a process likly to result in truth, justice and the American way.
Update: Attorney Eileen Buholtz provides these insights into her recent legal actions. Yes, the legal process is ongoing. http://rpocommunity.wordpress.com/2013/02/…
First of all, let's fix your selective memory, Ms. Curtis. You have two petitions. The one that has 1000+ signatures is to support Remmereit's programming and performances, something that has been publicly stated as NOT being the crux of the problem. The second petition, having 230 signers, is to fire Charles Owens. Both petitions seem to have a healthy dose of people who are not actual supporters of the RPO, but rather only of Remmereit (I can't see how to view all the signatures at once, so I can't get an exact number). And it is important to note that those who support Remmereit do not necessarily support firing Charles Owens! This is a line that you, Mr. Maurer, and your other colleagues continually blur.
Frankly, I must say that I am truly incredulous that you, Ms. Curtis, continue to project yourself as some champion of the RPO's cause. You continue to speculate about how this orchestra, which you have no investment in, is run. I am trying to understand how you, a person who had not been to Rochester, NY in more than 20 years before the last Viola Congress , continue to push your own agenda and somehow claim that it will benefit the orchestra. Many of your colleagues (who I may disagree with), at least are clear in their motivations, and they are people who have an actual investment in the orchestra.
You may champion women composers, and that's great, but stop pushing an agenda of division when what the orchestra needs the most is to find common ground, learn from this whole debacle, and move forward.
Liane Curtis - In a different venue you directed the following to Ms. Rice, "I feel it is fair to ask for an election for Board members that offers a choice and is conducted in accordance with democratic principles. Why are you opposed to that?". I in response posted a question, which was deleted before you could respond, asking what "democratic principles" you believe the RPO board violated under their bylaws. Luckily you now have a second opportunity to answer.
Mr. Hess, This petition http://tinyurl.com/petition-RPO , at Change.org, does not call for any "heads to roll." It calls for the reinstatement of Arild Remmereit. Apparently you have not read it, and thus you have disregarded its 1,200 signers!
As to your interpretation of Remmereit moving out of his office, he only moved his materials into that office on November 30, 2011. Being Music Director is not a 9 to 5 office job, and perhaps he decided that he could work better at home, as he had done previously. It does not say anything about him expecting to no longer work at the RPO, but perhaps it does register that the working climate created by the management was hostile, as he has stated.


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Main Courthouse Judicial Complex Projects
Tower, 500 Car Garage and East Wing Renovations
Scope of Project: This project is the construction of a new Broward County courthouse in downtown Fort Lauderdale. The total cost of the courthouse, including demolition, landscaping, connectors and 500 secured parking spaces, is $213 million. The new 20-story, 714,000-square-foot courthouse will be built on the site where the judicial parking garage is currently located, just west of the main courthouse building. The new courthouse and east wing renovations are scheduled for completion in 2015. The 500 car garage is scheduled for completion in 2017. More...
Scope of Project: This project is the construction of a new parking garage that will serve the Broward County Courthouse in downtown Fort Lauderdale. The Courthouse parking garage site, comprising 1.9082 acres (83,123 square feet), is located at the northeast corner of South Andrews Avenue and S.E. Seventh Street. The site extends north to the south side of S.E. Sixth Street, across S.E. Sixth Street from the new proposed Courthouse site, and also extends east to the northwest corner of S.E. First Avenue. The new garage will provide 1,000 car parking spaces in a five level structure. The project also includes a 12,000 square foot ground floor office space for Guardian ad Litem, and a 1,500 square foot ground floor retail shell space. The project will cost approximately $29.5 million including costs for both the land purchase and the construction of the new facilities. The project is scheduled for completion in late Spring 2014.
Scope of Project: The existing 69,000 sq. ft. building will be renovated in accordance with LEED sustainable guidelines to accommodate the following agencies:
1st Floor: Currently Occupied by the Clerk of the Court Call Center, Training Rooms & Child Support as well as BSO Probation staff will be reconfigured to accommodate the Probation staff currently located on the second floor and the Clerk of the Court Child Support will be located close to the building entry on the South East corner of the building. This reconfiguration will improve the building by servicing the public on the ground floor of the building.
2nd Floor: Currently occupied by BSO, the remainder of the space is currently vacant and is being utilized as swing space for the Clerk of the court and Facilities. The intent is to provide the Second Floor to the Clerk of the Court to accommodate the Call Center, Training Center and additional Clerk Staff.
3rd floor: Currently Vacant. It will be occupied by the Public Defender, which is in leased space.
4th floor: Temporarily occupied by JIS (Judicial Information Systems) while their space is being refurbished (Suite 895 of Central Wing). It will be occupied by the State Attorney, which is in leased space.
Budgeted cost for this project is $10.9 million. Completion date is being finalized.

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ByThis 25 minute video gives some of the history of the rise of Islam through Jihad. Jay smith does a good job here. To see the whole 14 hour teaching series by Jay Smith click here.
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This 25 minute video gives some of the history of the rise of Islam through Jihad. Jay smith does a good job here. To see the whole 14 hour teaching series by Jay Smith click here.
Qur'an:9:29 - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Qur'an:8:39 - "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."
Bukhari:8:387 - "Allah's Apostle said, 'I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.'
Qur'an 48:28a - "He it is Who hath sent His messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may cause it to prevail over all religion."
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In 98 I was working evening shift and seen a late night commercial offering a free Koran. Because I have an interest in all religions, especially Christian Cults, I ordered it and read it even though it was a very difficult read. I noticed peaceful verses and violent verses but did not know what to make of it all. Then after 911 I read the Koran again and this time I discovered a verse that talked about later verses superseding earlier verses. But I did not know which where early and later verses. Even after this and 911 I still believed that Islam was not a big concern for me as the only ones blowing things up where "terrorist" and not all Muslims where terrorist, right? Then came 9/09/10, it was the day that changed my life and mission. Because I have Mormons, Oneness Pentecostals, Word of Faithers and Bible Missionaries in my family, I had devoted the last 10 years to Christian Cult Apologetics, and then came along Pastor Terry Jones, needless to say him and his Burn a Koran day changed my life. Here is why.
On 9/9/10 I visited a friends political blog and seen a post about the Burn a Koran Day. I'm not really sure why but I thought, this jerk could to set the whole world ablaze if he burns them Korans. I visited Jones site and also went to his facebook page and a facebook page that was against the Koran burning. What I seen shocked me. It went like this,,,"we will kill you all if you burn our Koran",, and non Muslims responded by saying,,, "not if we kill you all first".
The non-muslims where posting videos of Muslims burning people alive, beheading people, stoning people, hanging people, beating women,,etc. I had seen a couple of these videos but had no idea there where so many. And of course on 9/11 they was showing all the tributes on TV which included the jumpers from the towers, I was really overwhelmed but still spent a total of five days on those facebook pages. One day as soon as I awoke, it dawned on me that I never seen a single Muslim denounce those atrocious videos without also half heartedly justifying them. And many Muslims outright condoned the terrible acts. That day I noticed that far to many of the ones who condoned such acts where living in the west. I knew right then that there are not as many "moderate Muslims" as myself and most people thought. I decided that day that I would be changing the focus of my ministry and dedicating my life to studying Islam and telling others about it's dangers. I started this blog on Islam and I plan on doing counter-jihad work until I die.
Damon Whitsell
America is indeed exceptional -- a once-in-history success militarily, economically, scientifically and culturally.
"These future United States presidents questioned the ambassador as to why his government was so hostile to the new American republic even though America had done nothing to provoke any such animosity. Ambassador Adja answered them, as they reported to the Continental Congress, 'that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise'." Thomas Jefferson to the Continental Congress about the brutal pirate attacks of the Muslim Ottoman Barbary States which prompted the first two wars of the newly independent United States of America, - the Barbary Wars. (1801–1805 and 1815)
Mahomet established a religion by putting his enemies to death; Jesus Christ by commanding his followers to lay down their lives. Blaise Pascal
"I am afraid that God has sent these men to lay waste the world". Gregory Palamus of Thessalonica, 1354: While negotiating the surrender of Alexandria to the Muslims.
"Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers] Islam says Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us Islam says Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy Islam says Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim." Ayatollah Khomeini 1942.
"During the thousand years that included the careers of the Frankish soldier and the Polish king, the Christians of Asia and Africa proved unable to wage successful war with the Moslem conquerors; and in consequence Christianity practically vanished from the two continents; and today nobody can find in them any "social values" whatever, in the sense in which we use the words, so far as the sphere of Mohammedan influence. There are such "social values" today in Europe, America, and Australia only because during those thousand years the Christians of Europe possessed the warlike power to do what the Christians of Asia and Africa had failed to do - that is, to beat back the Moslem invader." Theodore Roosevelt.
"Ever since the religion of Islam appeared in the world, the espousers of it...have been as wolves and tigers to all other nations, rending and tearing all that fell into their merciless paws, and grinding them with their iron teeth; that numberless cities are raised from the foundation, and only their name remaining; that many countries, which were once as the garden of God, are now a desolate wilderness; and that so many once numerous and powerful nations are vanished from the earth! Such was, and is at this day, the rage, the fury, the revenge, of these destroyers of human kind". John Wesley (1703-91)
In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar, the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent God; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust, by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.
The precept of the koran is, perpetual war against all who deny, that Mahomet is the prophet of God. The vanquished may purchase their lives, by the payment of tribute; the victorious may be appeased by a false and delusive promise of peace; and the faithful follower of the prophet, may submit to the imperious necessities of defeat: but the command to propagate the Moslem creed by the sword is always obligatory, when it can be made effective. The commands of the prophet may be performed alike, by fraud, or by force. John Quincy Adams
Nor can the Plundering of Infidels be in that sacred Book [the Quran] forbidden, since it is well known from it, that God has given the World, and all that it contains, to his faithful Mussulmen, who are to enjoy it of Right as fast as they conquer it. Ben Franklin
"Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralysis the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Muhammadanism is a militant and proselytizing faith." - Winston Churchill
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, lovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome." WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM - IN 1899!
"The true Islamic concept of peace goes something like this: "Peace comes through submission to Muhammad and his concept of Allah" (i.e. Islam). As such the Islamic concept of peace, meaning making the whole world Muslim, is actually a mandate for war. It was inevitable and unavoidable that the conflict would eventually reach our borders, and so it has." Vernon Richards
"Among religions, Bolshevism is to be reckoned with Muhammadanism rather than with Christianity and Buddhism, Christianity and Buddhism are primarily personal religions, with mystical doctrines and a love of contemplation. Muhammadanism and Bolshevism are practical, social, unspiritual (doctrines), concerned to win the empire of this world." - Professor Bertrand Russell (Philosopher)
"Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in my travels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous men who maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. To liberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that one can render him". - Earnest Renan (French Thinker)
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." - Will Durant (U.S. Historian)
"Muhammadanism fell far short. In this case the projections were of violence predominating. Love and kinship were secondary to what indeed amounted to baptism and communion through violence and blood...
...So the concept of God began to change as the ego recognized its reliance upon inner reality, but the drama had to be worked out within the current framework.
Muhammadanism was basically so violent precisely because Christianity was basically so gentle. Not that Christianity was not mixed with violence, or that Muhammadanism was devoid of love. But the psyche went through its developments and battled with itself, denying some feelings and characteristics and stressing others, so the historic religious exterior dramas represented and followed these inner aspirations, struggles, and searches." - Jane Roberts, Seth (20th Century Spiritualism)
"Having thus given a cursory view of the Qur'an, I lay it before the sensible persons with the purpose that they should know what kind of book the Qur'an is. If they ask me, I have no hesitation to say that it can not be the work either of God or of a learned man, nor can it be a book of knowledge. Here its very vital defect has been exposed with the object that the people may not waste their life falling into its imposition…
... The Qur'an is the result of ignorance, the source of animalization of human being, a fruitful cause of destroying peace, an incentive to war, a propagator of hostility among men and a promoter of suffering in society. As to defect of repetition, the Qur'an is its store." - Maharishi Swami Dayanand Saraswati (19th Century Indian Sage and Rational Reformer)
"Over a billion people believe in Allah without truly knowing what Allah supposedly stands for or what he really demands of them. And the minority that do understand continue to be Moslems because they have redefined their morality and ethics to fit within the teachings of Islam, which are floridly lacking in morality. They therefore redefine what is good and evil in order to fit their lives into what is preached by Islam, instead of examining Islam to see if it fits within the good life. Backwards thinking, imposed by a backward religion". - Professor Bertrand Russell
"Show me just what Prophet Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Pope Benedict/Byzantine Emperor Paleogus
"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." – Albert Einstein
Father, I pray You prevent the destructive forces of terrorism directed against our nations. Provide protection from evil attacks and stop the aggressors that attempt to bring destruction to our nation and its people. May Your Hand of protection keep us safe.
I stand against the spirit of fear that accompanies the cowardice acts of terrorism. Allow our fear to turn to trust in You. May knowledge of terrorist planned attacks be revealed to those who provide our national and international security. Help those in power to act swiftly to avert all danger, protecting American lives and property.
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What's The Best Form of Goverment?
Ok, in your honest opinion what is the best form of goverment and why? The choices are: Democracy, Republic, Communist, Socialist, Totalitariasm, Facisit, Ollegarchy, or Monarchy.
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Democracy of the people if properly implemented. Time for America to get BACK to that plan.
Most interesting idea a friend had lately for US.. Get rid of congress elections. Make it a draft where everyone is in pool and servers 3-4 years then is DONE. No lobbiest, no campaign corruption. Representation by each area's people.
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well many of them work in theory, but not in practice. Those with order discount the influence of chaos, and those with chaos fall apart without order.
If we're just going off theory here, I'd go with republics...otherwise I'd fall back on communism.
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At least in monarchy or communism there is NO BS about being for the people by election then doing nothing you promised to get there. IMHO
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America was founded as a Republic just so you guys know, we need to get BACK to a republic, Democracy is rule of the people. Republic is when people choose who they want to represent. Don't get it mixed up, if this country was a democracy people would have to vote everything!
Such statements are regarded as uncontroversial--but consider their implications. If voting is truly our most fundamental right, then all other rights--including free speech, property, even life--are contingent on and revocable by the whims of the voting public (or their elected officials). America, on this view, is a society based not on individual rights, but on unlimited majority rule--like ancient Athens, where the populace, exercising "the most fundamental right of citizenship," elected to kill Socrates for voicing unpopular ideas--or modern-day Zimbabwe, where the democratically elected Robert Mugabe has seized the property of the nation's white farmers and brought the nation to the verge of starvation--or Germany in 1932, when the people democratically elected the Nazi Party, including future Chancellor Adolph Hitler. Would anyone dare claim that America is thus fundamentally similar to these regimes, and that it is perfectly acceptable to kill controversial philosophers or to exterminate six million Jews, so long as it is done by popular vote? Contrary to popular rhetoric, America was founded, not as a "democracy," but as a constitutional republic--a political structure under which the government is bound by a written constitution to the task of protecting individual rights. "Democracy" does not mean a system that holds public elections for government officials; it means a system in which a majority vote rules everything and everyone, and in which the individual thus has no rights. In a democracy, observed James Madison in The Federalist Papers , "there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention [and] have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property." The right to vote derives from the recognition of man as an autonomous, rational being, who is responsible for his own life and who should therefore freely choose the people he authorizes to represent him in the government of his country. That autonomy is contradicted if a majority of voters is allowed to do whatever it wishes to the individual citizen. The right to vote is not a sanction for a gang to deprive other individuals of their freedom. Rather, because a free society requires a certain type of government, it is a means of installing the officials who will safeguard the individual rights of each citizen. What makes America unique is not that it has elections--even dictatorships hold elections--but that its elections take place in a country limited by the absolute principle of individual freedom. From our Declaration of Independence, which upholds the "unalienable rights" of every individual, among which are "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," to our Constitution, whose Bill of Rights protects freedom of speech and the freedom of private property, respect for individual liberty is the essence of America--and the root of her greatness. Thus America should be a constitutional republic again.....I rest my case. Topic from a news source. |
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Democracy when done correctly is the best for the people. The us is basically a free market government now so they need to go back to their roots. Now if you don't beleive in human rights communism can run like a machine. Just look at China.
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Well put CryticX. I also say that A republic is the best of the given choices.
I would have gone with socialist if I did not already know that the human factor in the government would ruin it. For evidence that a socialist system would not work look at the former USSR. The idea was sound. But those in office quickly became corrupt with the authority given to them. The same happened in China, North Vietnam, and North Korea. If we could remove the need for people to run the government than a socialist society would work perfectly. It really is to bad that people are so easily corrupted by power.......
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Obviously Russkie hasn't seen this, cause no one's voted for communism yet.
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Can you believe all of the hoopla that is being made about how it is a necessity to require photo id's for people to be able to vote? This is being done to stop all of those people from coming in and falsely voting. Except where is the evidence this is occurring? (Be sure to cite your source if you're going to argue that it does happen. In the state Legislature in Virginia one elected official was able to come up with one instance he had heard about from an elections official — that someone who had voted earlier, might have come and gotten back in line later but left — was it a twin? Was it someone who thought he might have left his ID or phone or something and came back to look for it? Since the person didn't try to vote and didn't apparently talk to the person who reported the incident to the elected official, guess we'll never know
Anyway, depending upon what all happens this is going to be an expense for Virginia tax payers of somewhere between $800,000 and $21,000,000, depending upon who is asked.
The most blatant argument for having photo id's is that stuff like phone bills and such can be faked.
Duh! Hello there. Back in the 60′s it was easy enough to get a fake id to be able to get beer. In the 70′s where the clubs became popular, the only thing that was possibly more popular than the "Hustle" was the making and buying of fake id's in order to get into the clubs.
Now days, it is even easier. A quick Google search will give you hundreds of documents telling you the best ways to create fake id's. You can even find places that sell them! So, we're now going to expect our elections officers to be experts in correctly identifying fake id's?
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- Do something to solve the problem
Neither of those criteria have been met in this case.
Photo id's are not going to do anything more than increase costs to taxpayers, create a few additional headaches for those poll workers who are going to have to stand there and debate with someone as to whether their id is valid or nor, or create even more headaches for poll workers if there is a problem with the official id that the person has. (Did I mention that a chunk of the cost is going to be doing that media blitz thing that they did last year with the new voter ID cards all the heck over again? Last year that cost about $250,000. All wasted if this photo ID thing becomes official.)
If the whole thing weren't so sad it would be funny. (Of course, if Saturday Night Live is watching, it could be both!)
I can think of quite a few ways that money could be put to better use by our lawmakers.
For a bit of extra insight into this new "fade" spreading across the country, check out http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/10/29/121029fa_fact_mayer?currentPage=all
In the meantime, get ready to carry Grandma, who has voted for the last 40 years without a photo id, over somewhere to get her mug shot taken.


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LUMBERTON — Commissioner Hubert Sealey says the hiring process for county employees is broken and needs to be repaired.
"Hiring in Robeson County is based on two things, " Sealey said. "That's nepotism and race."
Sealey's opinion, however, is not supported by other county commissioners and administrators who spoke with The Robesonian about the hiring system that Sealey, who is black, contends discriminates against black people and does not ensure that the best-qualified individuals are hired for county positions.
Commissioners Noah Woods, Tom Taylor, Roger Oxendine, David Edge, Lance Herndon and Raymond Cummings all said Sealey's arguments aren't in line with employment statistics supplied to them by county administrators. Commissioner Jerry Stephens, the only other black person on the board, did not return a reporter's calls seeking comments for this story.
"Our hiring process works just fine," said Woods, the board's chairman. "If there was anything wrong with it, I wouldn't be a part of it."
County Manager Ricky Harris, who has been given the authority by the county commissioners to make all final hiring decisions, said that during 2012 he hired 21 employees — 10 American Indians, six whites and five blacks.
Sealey contends that the county hired 76 employees in 2012, with only eight blacks getting jobs. His number, according to both Harris and Constance Young, the county's human resources director, includes employees for which the county manager has no hiring authority, including the departments of social services, health and elections, along with the sheriff's office and register of deeds.
According to county records, as of Dec. 31, there were 1,017 county employees — 406 American Indians (40 percent of the county workforce); 218 blacks (21 percent); 373 whites, 37 percent; 18 Hispanic (2 percent); and two others. The percentages for the three major races closely mirror the county's demographics.
"Many of the departments for which the county manager hires are small," Young said. "Less than 300 county employees are actually hired by the manager."
Young said her major role in the hiring process is ensuring that all candidates who meet the minimum requirements for a position get the opportunity to be considered for that job opening.
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Young said that in many counties human resources personnel are more involved in the hiring process than she is in Robeson. This involvement takes various forms, she said, including reviewing applications and participating in interviews.
Sealey complained that there is no system of "checks and balances" in the hiring system.
"How can I ensure my constituents that we are getting the most-qualified people placed in jobs when I don't even get to see the applications?" Sealey said.
He contended that the county commissioners and the human resources director should have more input in the hiring process. He would like to see the commissioners have the opportunity to review all job applications, and the human resources director sit in on interviews and have more input into the selection of the candidates the manager finally hires.
Harris said the commissioners have given him sole authority to make final hiring decisions, adding that the county's hiring process includes all applications meeting qualifications being reviewed by a department head and a three-member committee consisting of a white, black and American Indian. These individuals interview job candidates and then make their recommendation to the manager, who makes the final decision.
Although county commissioners and administrators contend that hiring is done based only on qualifications, the application form asks for an applicant to include information on which commission district that person lives.
Harris said the hiring process differs from when Ken Windley was county manager. Under Windley, three applications — including his recommendation — were submitted to the commissioners for their review and approval.
"I think it's good that the commissioners got out of the hiring process," Harris said.
Edge strongly believes the final decision on hiring should be the manager's.
"I think the process we have now is fine," Edge said. "I advocated giving all of the authority to the county manager to make final hiring decisions. That's not our job. That's why we have a county manager."
Both Harris and Young emphasized that it is not always possible to hire an individual for a job just to keep a racial balance.
"We would like to mirror the county's employment to the census, but sometimes applicants don't meet the job requirements," Young said. "We always want the most qualified — those who have the skills — to fit in the department."
Oxendine, chairman of the county's Personnel Committee, voiced the opinion of the majority of the commissioners when he said qualifications, not race or nepotism, is what determines employee hiring.
"I like to see the numbers remain close, but that's not always possible," he said. "I recommend people for jobs. That's what I was elected for. But I don't get involved in the hiring. The one hired has to be the most qualified … . I think I've done just as much to get whites and blacks hired as I have done for Indians."
Taylor also stressed the importance of qualifications.
"I don't look at race. I look at who has the best qualifications for a specific job." he said. "When people come to me and ask for help getting a job I tell them I can get them an interview, but then they have to sell themselves on their qualifications."
Young acknowledged that there is some degree of nepotism involved in the county employee system, but emphasized that it's minimal.
"There is some nepotism, but where isn't that present?" she said. "The county's policy is that some family members can work for the county as long as one family member is not the direct supervisor of the other."
Oxendine said he doesn't see much nepotism.
"Of course there are members of the same family with county jobs," he said. "There aren't that many jobs in Robeson County."
Sealey wants an independent evaluation of the county's hiring practices.
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SOI Saturday at Post 7909 @ 9am be there District 6
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played a bit last night. thinking about getting back in semi-seriously.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 18:40 (4 years ago) Permalink
I was realllllly into Magic from like, 4th grade to 7th grade - like a 24/7 obsession. I was pretty good and read the magazines and websites on a daily basis - if I had more than $5 a week to spend on the game, I woulda been winning local tournaments left and right. Then one day I just completely lost interest. Thank god it was long before I had the potential to spend real money on the game. The funniest thing is that I looked up to all these local 20 year old guys who had the $$$$ for near-perfect decks. And in retrospect it's like, lol, I was looking up to some of the geekiest people ever.
Despite not really thinking about MtG for 10 years, I am bothered by how much info about the game is permanently lodged in my brain.
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 18:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
I remember one point in time where I had this badass green deck made up of relatively cheap and common cards that allowed me to play a dozen creatures in 3 turns and actually compete w/ legit players. It was risky though, cause it was an all or nothing type deal, and I pretty much knew if I was gonna win or not as we drew our hands.
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
Also there was this one time where I was about to win the local tournament (by tournament I mean like 12 players) and some guy who was watching was like "hey that card you're using, I think it's banned" and he showed me the magazine (The Duelist? I think) and it seemed like he was right, and so he went to the guy who owned the comic book store and that guy decided to just give me 2nd place even though I was winning.
LATER I went home and realized that the card was only banned for like Type 1.1 tournaments or some shit and we weren't playing that. That was the closest I ever got to winning a tournament. But I mean, I was a poor ass 11yo and these dudes were in their 20s - it was pretty hard to compete. The guy who tattled on me did a lot of hard drugs and when you're suburban 11yo it's pretty weird to hear someone talk about their hard drug use.
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
i have vague memories of playing friendly games in the local card/comic shop's upstairs magic the gathering room (before it burned down) as like a 12 year old. dudes were basically nice but now that i'm a 20-something dude myself i'm not exactly going to be down w/playing against kids at some store. i will play magic the gathering the way i would do anything else--with my friends and over beers.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
Okayyy I just spent 10 minutes trying to figure/remember what card it was, and it was this one:
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:29 (4 years ago) Permalink
xp was gonna caution u if u somehow meant really serious, the gameplay itself on a advanced/tourney level seems crazily intricate and difficult now just from reading a few articles but yea if thats ur def of semi-serious then more power 2 u itll be rad~
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:30 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh, adding to my geek cred - I also remember buying and reading about a dozen of the MtG fantasy-world novels
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink
oh yeah, i have had brief encounters with the magic aspie/dork tournament scene and it's def not for me. i just mean paying attention to cards, buying new cards, reading about stuff. it's a step above what i do now which is play with the same 5-6 decks i've had for five years or possibly longer.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:42 (4 years ago) Permalink
i have a bunch of cards signed by the artists that i got when i was 13. wonder if they're worth anything these days.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:54 (4 years ago) Permalink
I seem to remember that cards being signed by artists actually didn't make them particularly valuable.
also, imo totally the golden era of the game: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revised_Edition_(Magic:_The_Gathering)
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 19:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
they are doing some crazy mtg 2010 shit look @ this:
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 21:43 (4 years ago) Permalink
― ian, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 21:57 (4 years ago) Permalink
btw i have four decks ready to play at bell_labs' house--white/green green/redblue/blackgreen/black
obv i like green. (slow burner.gif)
― ian, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 21:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
the green/black is sort of an aborted necropotence/enchantress deck that i hustled together quickly, and we almost never use that one cuz it's an unlikely winner. when it works it works well, but that is not often :(
― ian, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 21:59 (4 years ago) Permalink
One card-printing error of note appeared on the card Serendib Efreet. This blue creature card was misprinted with a green border and a picture of another card, Ifh-Bíff Efreet. The name, mana cost and rules text were of Serendib Efreet, however. The Revised version is now the most common due to the limited print run of the original, intended versions.
Love this card, pack four of 'em in the blue/black deck.
― ian, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:00 (4 years ago) Permalink
i think shroud means it cant be the target of spells or effects
also, that is just some online series or something, not a real card. my bad
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:06 (4 years ago) Permalink
too many new terms & mechanics with each expansion = one of the reasons i stopped playing. the other main reason was... high school.
― ian, Wednesday, 10 June 2009 22:07 (4 years ago) Permalink
i kind of want 2 get into this but it seems deeply complicated in an unfun way?
― THE BATHYPELAGIC ZONE (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 01:03 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah it seems it but if you have any affinity/familiarity with games in general i could teach you to play in about an hour.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:23 (4 years ago) Permalink
yeah it's not a hard game to grasp, especially if yer just fuckin with the basic sets and not making any attempt to "stay current" or anything. i haven't bought magic cards in... a long time. not long enough that i'd be comfortable saying exactly, but a long time. years.
― ian, Thursday, 11 June 2009 03:58 (4 years ago) Permalink
yah i mean ill fuck w/ catan and zombies and bang and fukken dragonball rpg so i figure i can "get it" but everytime my friends start to explain it the whole thing seems really overly rule-y and limited. sad realness: i kind of just want 2 play because i like the pictures on the cards
― THE BATHYPELAGIC ZONE (Lamp), Thursday, 11 June 2009 04:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
been readin abt new sets and tournament decks this morning. don't even know where there's a decent game store anymore.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Thursday, 11 June 2009 15:53 (4 years ago) Permalink
Funny that this got revived because they just announced a set of new rules two days ago to simplify and streamline the game, and make it easier to learn. (Naturally, the hardcore players are up in arms.) Or did you revive because you heard about the new rules, destroyer?
It is a pretty complicated game, but a lot of rules just cover unusual circumstances that rarely come up. The nice thing is most new cards are self-explanatory or intuitive after you've got the basic rules down.
― Vinnie, Thursday, 11 June 2009 19:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
i revived cause i had gotten together with some friends to play, a couple of us had mostly old cards and a couple had mostly new cards (so every game involved a shitload of reading). i read about the rule changes after that. not sure i'm down w/the new combat rules.
picked up 15 alara block boosters on saturday and am opening them now. this set is hilarious, it basically is forcing the issue and making ppl play 3-5 color decks. prob will be fun to put a deck together.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Monday, 15 June 2009 01:45 (4 years ago) Permalink
^^^ pull that card out of your hat next time cad
― stone phillips i love u because u r my dad (Lamp), Monday, 15 June 2009 02:37 (4 years ago) Permalink
As an old school dungeon master, it's impossible for me to see Magic as anything but the game that destroyed the attention span of millions of potential RPGers.
And then they WOTC bought TSR, just to add insult to injury.
Total DUD I say!
― Nate Carson, Monday, 15 June 2009 11:11 (4 years ago) Permalink
xp i would definitely throw down w/a hatbunny card.
― DUDE, I DON'T LOSE (call all destroyer), Monday, 15 June 2009 13:20 (4 years ago) Permalink
this fan-created variant brought me back to the game after 13(!) years.
it's really fun and totally casual. you have a general that must be a legendary creature. all your cards must be one of your generals colors. you start with 40 life. you can use cards from every format. there is a ban list but it's just for the most broken unfun unfair cards.
the format is now officially supported with pre-constructed decks.
― Thee Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 11 November 2011 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
the one we used to do was called 250, basically you built a 250 card deck w/ at least 20 of each color, plus you played for ante (had to be a rare though), and could play Contract from Below which made it really fun - was such a great casual format and bascially all that was played at the store I went to for years - then the rules "committee" massively fucked it up, restricting Contract, then banning it, then not restricting or banning cards that were killing the format (mostly b/c most of them didn't even play anymore), then completely changing the rules, and now nobody plays it - meanwhile Commander got a ton of support officially, kinda makes me wonder how big 250 could have been at it been managed even remotely properly
― frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/ProjectEBAY/MagicCards.html these prices are so retarded omg― El Tomboto, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkpeople should all be blown up― El Tomboto, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalinkpeople should all be blown up
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:06 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
should see how high they are now! (would guess all of them have doubled in price since)
― frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol you play magic as well as poker - ?
are people who pay that sort of money for magic cards people who are playing at a high enough level to be making bank off of it, or at least people who are close enough to delude themselves of same? or are they like IT professionals who don't know how to spend money
― thomp, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
its some from both columns, I guess the one defensible thing about it is that they are almost like stock, and I don't think the prices have ever dropped - as time goes on they only get more rare, the only way they'll take a big fall is if the game dies out, which IMO is really not happening anytime soon. my one big purchase was about 6 years ago, I bought a dude's collection for $1400 with the intention of selling most of it over time, and honestly wish I hadn't dealt any of it, as the entire thing would be worth $6000+ today. here's a card that was worth about $15 at the time, check this out now:
btw I don't think many people are making much money off of playing the game (maybe like 1% of the players), but if you can predict the market for buying/selling certain cards you can definitely do well
― frogbs, Saturday, 12 November 2011 15:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
should i play the dark ascension prerelease tournament it means getting up at 8am on a saturday
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
sealed? does the set look cool?
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
lamp, do it for those of us who want to live vicariously through you and provide a full report
― call all destroyer, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah its a sealed, $25 bucks gets you um some # of boosters (i think 9?) and a promo card.
i totaled up what it would cost me to complete my innistrad set on starcitygames and its like $90 + shipping/taxes. i hate myself sometimes
― roborally.rar (Lamp), Friday, 20 January 2012 01:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha don't do #2 you will find a complete set to be a white elephant. #1 sounds like a decent use of $25.
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
only pay for cards that you will almost definitely play with + directly enjoy
― Mordy, Friday, 20 January 2012 01:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
well i dont have $90 to my name atm so theres no risk i was just curious. amusingly enough ive pulled two of the really expensive innistrad cards (snapcaster and one of the planeswalkers) from boosters so its mostly just cheap cards left
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
although i know for a fact you two are both way underestimating the pleasure i would get from having a complete card set
its mostly lol cuz you can buy a complete set of innistrad on ebay for like $110 bux atm
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah I think I have a hard time seeing things from a collector's pov but I'm like aspie on the other side of the spectrum. 'what is this object's functional value for me'
anyway I will play anyone itt cockatrice tonight
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
man i just started buying cards again. haven't played since ice age. shit is great.
i haven't played a physical match against a real opponent yet, just trying stuff out on cockatrice. i've won a couple games using decks assembled from cards i actually own. thinking about going out to the burbs for friday night magic tomorrow but worry about embarrassing myself horribly.
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
cockatrice is super fun but dudes keep busting out these like $$$ standard decks and annihilating me, would like to play against decks comparable to those found at a south louisiana gaming store.
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah when i played iatee last he used a constructed deck that just destroyed me like i could not win
― Lamp, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
look i like the forbidden alchemy into unburial rites into sun titan into grave titan via 8 million rare dual lands as much as the next guy but at some point it turns into an unwinnable arms race
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
aw man I like the beauty of the unwinnable arms races, it becomes all about statistics and tailoring the perfect deck
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I mean I like the idea of it, I was very much against it when I was a kid and could afford exactly 3 of the cards needed to make said perfect deck
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 02:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
totally. coming back to magic after 15 years, with the internet-enabled secondary market and a grownup's disposable income--these serious decks are somewhat attainable at this point but my mindset is still firmly in buying boosters, opening them up and making do with what i get.
of course i am learning, to which my recent ebay sprees can attest.
― adam, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
haha I still don't have a grownup's disposable income I just play online
― iatee, Friday, 20 January 2012 03:03 (1 year ago) Permalink