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The entire Chartiers Valley student section watching a high school hockey game against Bishop Canevin on Monday night was ejected for rowdy behavior at the Mt. Lebanon Rec Center ice rink.
Mt. Lebanon police Lt. Aaron Lauth said it's not unusual for a few students to be ejected from a game, but he can't recall an entire section ever being removed for bad behavior.
"We've had to eject students before, and groups for behavior," Lauth said, "but ejecting all the students, that's the first time I've been familiar with it."
Lauth said a Mt. Lebanon police officer working security during the game warned some Chartiers Valley student of their behavior early in the game after they were apparently chanting profanities. When that continued minutes later, the officer told "a pretty big group" that they had to leave immediately, Lauth said.
Click here to watch the Trib Total Media's broadcast of the game on PIHL's website
Later in the game, someone threw a plastic soda bottle onto the ice, Lauth said. Others apparently threw coins on the ice at some point in third period of the 6-5 loss.
"The officer and the referees saw it," Lauth said. "The referees and officer were in a agreement that this was the last straw so all of the students were then ejected from the game and asked to leave."
Lauth said the referees were adamant that the game would not continue unless "the problem was solved." Other Mt. Lebanon police officers arrived to assist with the situation.
That led to a flurry of tweets from Chartiers Valley students Monday night that ranged from anger toward the police to bewilderment for the ejections.
Lauth contacted the principals at both high schools and informed them of the situation.
"They were going to take steps on their own to talk to the students about future behavior," he said.
Chartiers Valley Superintendent Brian White Jr. said the school district is aware of the situation, but unsure what, if any, discipline would be appropriate for an off-campus club hockey game.
"We can't indiscriminately discipline kids," White said. "I don't have specifics about the incident."
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11:16 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
I bet you made it far in life... Just kidding im being very sarcastic. Chances are you receive food stamps and are on welfare.
Terry Jones
9:00 am on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Throwing objects on the ice is very dangerous. People could get seriously hurt. If that were your children on the ice would you accept that behavior? Time to grow up. Be a leader not a follower.
rose altvater
1:10 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
A classic case of a few uncivilized individuals ruining a great time for so many others...I was there, and saw how excited and enthusiastic the kids were. The police had a tough job, for sure. Once the instigators left, the rest of the kids that remained spread out and were fine during the game.
Mike Jones
1:23 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
@Rose... I watched the video and it looked like most of the students were asked to leave in the 1st period. But there were still a few kids around in the 3rd period. Do you know how the officers determined which kids should leave? Why were some allowed to stay while others were forced to go?
6:36 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
No, all of the fan section was thrown out, but a dedicated few came back in. Actually, more than a few.
Dean Beattie
3:04 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
What a bunch of clowns. Hey, lets act like a bunch of 2 year olds and through stuff out onto the ice! Way to show respect for the other school and it's players. Jerks.
Mike Jones
4:14 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
What probably made this behavior worse is that it happened during a game broadcast on the PIHL's website. The commentator had to apologize multiple times by the language chanted by students.
4:16 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
This was an absolute disgrace. For Dr. White to say they lack specifics is ridiculous. THE VIDEO OF THE GAME IS ONLINE. You can easily pick out what students were there, I'm sure they probably are not angels in school either. Perhaps we should have chaperones sit in the student section, or perhaps our students should not be permitted to attend future games. While that would be unfair to the "good" kids, it seems like we have greater issues in the district than not attending a hockey game. Our test scores stink, teacher morale is low, and we have students that have no idea as to how to conduct themselves in public.
Mike Jones
4:36 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
@Marie... I think the problem for Dr. White and the school district is that this happened off campus at a club sporting event. It seems like their position would be different had this been a WPIAL-sanctioned event at CV Stadium. The reach for a school district for off-campus indiscretions is questionable.
Dream On
7:20 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
It's obvious you haven't attended a school board meeting in quite awhile. The test scores are low across the state - not just our district. Teacher morale is up as we have an awesome group that do a tremendous job. Check with the task force or the district website to see all of the good they've accomplished. It's so easy to kick someone when they are down, but not encourage them for the good they've done. If this district isn't performing up to your standards, there is always the option of leaving.
4:40 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I think the issue is, did the district provide buses for students to attend the game? If so, the school does have some wiggle room. Pull the buses as an option. This wasn't just a case of poor behavior, kids from either team could have been seriously injured if they hit a coin on the ice.
Mike Jones
4:46 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
@Marie... I doubt they do that (although I didn't attend Monday night's game) because I covered the team a couple times last year and didn't see any school buses bringing students to the game.
Dean Beattie
4:53 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Marie - No sure what test scores have to do with this story or teacher morale, but, whatever. Do you by chance have a website or way to verify these test scores? I'd actually like to see it.
Mike, you're probably right. It's also the "monkey see, monkey do" attitude.
5:05 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Dean, just frustrating. Take a look at the district report card on the school website. I attended a city high school in the late 80's, early 90's. Our football games were nearly all held at South Stadium immediately after the school day to avoid behavior like what was displayed at this game. I would hate to see that happen here, just from what I have heard from my kids and neighbor kids, there are major behavior issues at the high school level that are not being addressed.
Miller Foster
6:25 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
The fan section although rowdy and innappropriate with chants was a big part of CV's momentum and was a huge draw back to the team when the ENTIRE fan section was told to leave for the actions of few students.
6:39 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I think you should write a story about the sickomcnasty cv rap squads.
The Real Slim Shady
6:44 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Susan I'm a parent of three Cv students and am currently 29 years old. Couldn't be more proud
6:44 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Alright, people are really over reacting to this. Let's look at some specifics from someone who was there:
1) The only objects thrown were pennies and a water bottle. While stupid and annoying, there's nothing "dangerous" about that. I'll admit it has to stop though.
2) Minus the object throwing, the "profanity" chants happen all the time at football games. Because of the size of the stadiums, you can't hear it as clearly.
3) These are high school kids. Do you honestly expect anything else?
4) It was awesome. The fans gave CV so much momentum in the first period. You have no clue how much that pumps the athletes up when over 100 kids are being crazy for you, especially in a rivalry game.
5) The fact is that everyone was kicked out over a few kids' wrongdoings.
6) Do they throw out everyone in the Consol Energy Center when people get in a fight or are being disruptive? No.
D train
6:58 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Couldn't imagine going anywhere else besides CV. Nobody cares what parents have to say about us.
6:59 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Why would our games be moved to after school?? The only type of fighting that goes on in school is rap battling. And how does a grown women who has nothing better to do than comment on a blog all night have room to say our teachers have low morale.
Mike Da Jew
7:09 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I wonder how many moms commenting on this are milfs.
LLoyd Carr
7:34 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
#Pickleball #Sciarro #Football #Basketball #Laptops #CVTV #ACK #Edjamacation #JimmyPalmer http://jimmypalmer.com/
7:35 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
Was anybody arrested? Also, I am proud of the edjemacation I receive from Chartiers Valley. My teachers are phenomenal. This is the best edjemacation a kid could receive!
Diane White
9:03 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I'm sorry but once again, this goes back to parents instilling in their children how to behave properly in a public setting. And having attended NUMEROUS hockey games over the years for CV, both as a student and as a relative of players, I can say that often the parents of the players are not setting the best example by their language and behavior. It is absolutely inappropriate for anyone at a sporting event to behave in a manner that is offensive to those around them. Cursing and chanting obscenities is not an acceptable behavior, regardless of the sport or venue. It shows poor sportsmanship. There are plenty of other acceptable ways to rile up your sports team and show your support. Parents need to get more involved with what their kids are doing both in their sight and when they are out of sight. My parents would have KILLED me if I would've acted like that, and rightly so! Most parents are too worried about being their kids' friends than actually setting boundaries and following through with accountability. Step up and start acting like PARENTS. It's not the school's job (or the police) to discipline your child at a public event.
Rob Ferrari
10:33 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I play for the CV hockey team and nothing can describe the feeling of playing in front of those fans, they are dedicated fans and they are showing school spirit, Marie the bottle was thrown at the end of the period, no one was on the ice. As for the pennies I didn't see any. I hate the fact that all of the parents sit here and say its disgraceful, didn't you live once? Stop acting like we are such bad kids, they got excited for a hockey game, they arent commuting murder. As for the test scores and teacher morale, I go to cv and to be honest every teacher I've come in contact with has cared for me much like they would cared for a child. I'm extremely proud to go to cv and I am damn proud of that student section, if that fan section shows up every week then id be happy. They are showing school spirit and showing support for us. All of you parents can look down on us and say that we are bad kids but in the end we don't care what you have to say. Wether you like it or not the fans are apart of the team. They're dedicated and so proud of them.
Rob Ferrari
10:33 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
I play for the CV hockey team and nothing can describe the feeling of playing in front of those fans, they are dedicated fans and they are showing school spirit, Marie the bottle was thrown at the end of the period, no one was on the ice. As for the pennies I didn't see any. I hate the fact that all of the parents sit here and say its disgraceful, didn't you live once? Stop acting like we are such bad kids, they got excited for a hockey game, they arent commuting murder. As for the test scores and teacher morale, I go to cv and to be honest every teacher I've come in contact with has cared for me much like they would cared for a child. I'm extremely proud to go to cv and I am damn proud of that student section, if that fan section shows up every week then id be happy. They are showing school spirit and showing support for us. All of you parents can look down on us and say that we are bad kids but in the end we don't care what you have to say. Wether you like it or not the fans are apart of the team. They're dedicated and so proud of them.
Mike Jones
10:55 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
@Rob... Thanks for your comment. Obviously there is only one side to this story. I'd love to hear more about how the students felt about getting ejected. Obviously not all of them were at fault.
Dean Beattie
9:13 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
So, Rob, "...they are dedicated fans and they are showing school spirit...." by using profanity and throwing objects onto the ice? That's your definition of school spirit?
...."the bottle was thrown at the end of the period, no one was on the ice." Oh, cool, because this makes it alright to throw objects out onto the ice. Sorry, I didn't realize there was a proper time or place to do this, now I know.
"I hate the fact that all of the parents sit here and say its disgraceful, didn't you live once?" Um, so this is what living is?
"I'm extremely proud to go to cv .." You should be, it's and excellent school district and I'm proud of the fact that I to went CV.
"....I am damn proud of that student section..." Really, you're proud of a group of kids that shouted profanities at the other team, and threw objects out onto the ice, all, might I remind you, during a televised game that the announcer had to keep apologizing on air for the conduct of the CV student section.
"All of you parents can look down on us and say that we are bad kids but in the end we don't care what you have to say. " In 10 years when you have matured you will look back on this and realize how embarrassing the actions of those students were, to you, your team, and your school.
Showing school and team spirit is not acting like a bunch immature idiots. Would you go to a high school sporting event and conduct your self that way? Your student section embarrassed you and the district.
Dean Beattie
9:24 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Rob, there is nothing wrong with showing support for your team, your school and yourself, but what that student section did, was not showing support. As I said in my other reply they disrespected you, your team, your school.
How would you feel if the opposing teams student body did that to you? What if they acted like that and they were the ones that got thrown out for acting the same way? You would think the same thing that we all think, what a bunch of classless clowns and they deserved to be thrown out.
Take pride in your school, man, as I can see that you do. Set an example.
10:54 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
For Chris-sake, to all the individuals who are talking trash on the student section... Get a life! You're an adult and discriminating teenagers. I bet you made it far in life?? Not.
Mike Jones
11:18 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
@VGOD... Were you in the student section? How did you feel about getting ejected? Did you think it was fair?
4:32 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
Good luck with your "rap" career. I'm sure you'll be a big star. That was sarcastic in case you couldn't tell.
Kevin Prince
11:54 pm on Thursday, November 15, 2012
As a retired CV hockey player who played with great legends on the team in 2010 2009 and 2008 I could only say that this makes me proud to see the amount of support that hockey deserves.. I've played in front of big crowds and it really gets the juices going. I would also like to thank "Dad" as the best coach I have ever had.
Jude Scumaci
12:33 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Dad was the best coach. I texted him the other day about the ejection. He said " it was bull**** and was uncalled for". I loved playing in front of huge crowds. Students have always gone crazy and it pumps us up. Hell I it wasn't for the student section in the 2011 playoffs we might not have pulled out the win in the double ot thriller against montour. I went to the game and was not ejected but god did I love to see how much support the hockey team has received throughout the past few years.
LLoyd Carr
9:56 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Dean, I challenge you to come to our 3rd period Rhetoric class so we can masterly debate you on this topic. Rob Ferrari is in this class and would love to debate you. Thanks.
Dean Beattie
10:04 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Can Rob not speak for himself? Or are you his spokesman? Plus, your comment makes no sense. If Rob would like to respond to my reply, he surely may as it was to his comment I was responding.
CV Hockey Player
10:03 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
It's truly ridiculous to see so many of you making a big deal out of something so harmless. There was an announcement made this morning concerning the behavior of the student section and objects will not be thrown on the ice again. However, I am a player for the CV Hockey team and I personally was having things thrown at me by the Bishop Canevin student section. They were also shouting profanity just as much but were not heard as clearly due to the number of fans being only a fraction of ours. The referees should have ejected both student section because they were equally guilty. If you were not at the game then you really have no idea what you're talking about. We as players are thankful for the support we are receiving and WE ARE PROUD to be colts. We are a family. "Rowdy."
CV Hockey Player 2
10:41 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
I am a CV hockey player as well, and I have to agree with my teammate when I say that this is truly ridiculous. As players, we obviously do not advocate for our fans to be thrown out. We play the game with intensity and tenacity, but ultimately with respect. Respect for the game, our opponents, and their fans as well. We do not condone objects being thrown on the ice or profanity being shouted. However, what happened that night is being blown out of proportion. Not only because the events have been skewed, but because the Canevin fans were participating in the activities just as much. I am not placing the blame on them, we are all to blame. But this must be looked at logically. No one died, and no one was injured. The student section was thrown out for merely supporting their team. They had seven Mt. Lebanon police officers there, to do what? To escort a large group of students out the door? They were not throwing pipe bombs or flares, it was a plastic bottle and a few coins. I have personally played in numerous games over my hockey career which were much worse than that. I am not placing the blame on the police or the opposing fans. I am just asking for us all to take a step back and reevaluate the situation.
Rob Ferrari
10:44 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
You know what dean? What you are doing here is immature, don't question my maturity. You are listening to one side of the story. You have every right to your own opinion but to sit here and act like when you were in high school you never went to a sporting event and yelled profanity. The bottle being thrown onto the ice was directed towards Marie because she stated that someone could have been injured which was not possible because as I stated the bottle was thrown at the end of the period. You asked "is this what living is?" Yes, it is. Why are you acting like you were such a perfect teenager? It's so hypocritical for people like you to look down on us for things like this.
Rob Ferrari
10:46 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Do you remember what is was like to be a teenager or was it that long ago? Wanna hear something that's immature? A 40 year old man calling teenagers "immature idiots", that's immature. That game was my senior project, I sold shirts for 2 weeks, I bought pink laces and tape for the entire team, and I advertised this game for a while. If anyone should be mad it should be me, but I'm not. I could not be more proud of the student section. Another thing, the other teams student section has done this to us and we don't complain, it's a part of the game. The fans do this in professional sports as well, so why is it so wrong for us to do it? I'm gonna end this post with this, who are you to tell me that they embarrassed me, they didn't embarrass or disrespect me at all, they showed support wether you agree with it or not and I could not be more proud of them
Dean Beattie
11:07 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Well said Rob, and it is admirable for what you did for your team. Was I the perfect teenager? Not hardly. Never said I was. What I saw from the comments that were made here and deleted were ignorant, that should embarrass you. The student section was removed for a reason, and it wasn't for showing support. It was for being unsportsman like.
I see this at every level of youth and pro athletics and it is immaturity. 90% of the youth hockey games I shoot you have parents that act the same way. It's ridiculous. I bet seeing a 40 year old guy scream at his 6 year old son and calling effing lazy while he's trying to play a game for fun is being supportive in your eye. From what I saw of the video and from what I have heard form those that were there, both young and old, it wasn't support. Believe what you want, that's your choice and your right, as is my opinion mine. As for why Canevin wasn't removed, no idea. Sorry we have a difference in opinions.
Keep up the positive attitude you have shown and the support for your team, you'll go far in life.
Ken Burns
11:15 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
This is very classless. Something I'd expect from Flyer fans. There is a big difference between cheering your team on and being a complete scumbag. I am embarrassed to say I am a CV Hockey Alum. Our school has gone down hill over the past 4-5 years, and it shows.
Derek Falcioni
11:18 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Cv hockey is the best it's been in four years. So your wrong ken burns
CV Student
11:27 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Dean, the Canevin students were amazed by our fan section. They were tweeting and telling us it was something you had to see to believe. The fans are what hype up the players. If you ever played a sport in High School you should know what it is like, the adrenaline you feel when there's people cheering and screaming for you, there is no better feeling. Our test scores do not reflect on how we behave at a sporting event. As for the bottle, a young freshman threw it and we should not all be blamed for one wrong doing. Dean, please keep your opinions to yourself. You are a grown man and there's no need for this to be blown so much out of proportion.
CV Hockey Player
11:54 am on Friday, November 16, 2012
Ken, CV Hockey has made great strides in the last four-five years. This includes three consecutive playoff appearances, back to back Penguin Cup semifinal,, and this year we could possibly be stronger than ever before. Down hill? Some alumnist you are.
12:22 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
I am in no way condoning the behavior of the student section at the hockey game, but I disagree with the statements that the CV students embarrassed the hockey team and the school. They did no such thing. They only embarrassed THEMSELVES. THEY made the choice to engage in the inappropriate behaviors. It seems to be convenient for adults to place the blame on parents or schools for the inappropriate behavior of children and young adults, but what about society as a whole? Again, I am not justifying the way that the CV student section acted, but they were likely emulating the behavior of ADULTS who engage in the same behaviors at professional sports games. (A recent example that comes to mind is the playoff game between the Cardinals and Braves last month.) We as parents and educators make our best attempts to teach our children right from wrong. But as our teenagers approach adulthood and gain more freedom to make decisions on their own, they are likely to make some bad decisions along the way and will need to experience the consequences as such. I challenge any adult reading this to tell me that they never made some not-so-hot choices during their high school years.
12:27 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
And as far as disrepect goes, my opinion is that the Mt. Lebanon police showed blatant disrespect by ejecting the entire student section. I think it is safe to assume that not ALL of the students were involved in the inappropriate behavior, thus causing some innocent students to be ejected. The police should have DONE THEIR JOBS by maintaining close proximity to the student section to ensure that there would be no more trouble, and/or taking the time to identify the SPECIFIC students who were causing trouble and eject them. Isn't that what police do when ADULTS act up at professional sports games? I've never seen an entire section be ejected in those instances...
Ken Burns
12:27 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
If you read my comment, it doesn't say anything about the skill of the players. What has gone down hill is the school. And in reality, high school hockey is about who has the best player ( or players). Evident to your season last year. But that's a topic for another day. The fact is the students acted classless. There's no disputing that. The only thing you can dispute is how many actually acted inappropriately.
Ken Burns
12:36 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
I don't understand why there is a big discussion about this. Life isn't fair. The behavior of a small number of students got the entire section kicked out. That's life, deal with it. Maybe they won't do it again next time. I've seen amateur games where the bleachers have been cleared 100% on both sides. If you disagree, move to Philly, their fan base needs more people like you.
Harry Boughner
1:07 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
This is far more insignificant than everyone is making it. You're all wasting your time because this isn't an important issue.
chris boshhhh
1:07 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
I was at the game and it was by far the best and biggest student section that i have ever seen out of all sport and it was the most enthusiastic i am proud to say i am a CV student and proud to see how much we support one another
1:07 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
Then why are you participating in the "big discussion??" What happened at the game was completely out of line, but it happened. It's life. Deal with it. And what does Philiadelphia have to do with all of this?
Ken Burns
2:04 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
Exactly Patti. You said exactly what I said? Obviously you don't pay attention to the NHL but the Flyers have, in my opinion and probably most Yinzers, the most classless fans in all of sports.
Diane White
2:04 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
I think what needs to be stressed here is that there are better ways to show your school and team support than what some demonstrated at this event. Paint yourselves, wear school colors, enthusiastically cheer for your team...just keep the profanity aside. No one would fault students for going ballistic cheering for their team if they did so in a respectful manner. That goes for the parents as well, who often forget that they are at a STUDENT event and they act just as immature by engaging in the same behavior that they are condemning.
Harry Boughner
2:26 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
Grown adults are putting substantial time and thought into arguing with adolescents. That is pathetic.
4:32 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
This is an excerpt from the CV school paper. It's one thing to be excited for your team but this showed no class.
The energetic crowd may have upset parents and onlookers with crude, vulgar chants that taunted Canevin fans and players. It is typical to occasionally hear profanity within cheers of a high school fan section at any event, however "Puckfest" crossed the line with anti-christian chants directed towards their opponents at Bishop Canevin, which is a Catholic private school.
After what appeared to be a heated argument between one of the Chartiers Valley coaches and an official, a police officer asked a group of rowdy fans to leave the arena, but within minutes, the fan section was full again. They returned, still yelling profanity and even ridiculing specific players on Bishop Canevin's team. Once again, students were asked to leave, except this time the entire student section was cleared. The Chartiers Valley "Puckfest" was outraged with these actions and several students actually launched a full garbage bin down the staircase that leads up to the stands.
9:41 pm on Friday, November 16, 2012
I am a student for bishop Canevin. I thought what CV's student section did was awesome. In fact I was doing the same, shouting profanities at their players and their fan section. I'm sorry to all but things aren't the way they use to be. I'm a 16 year old male, a junior in high school, and yes I'm old enough to know better but too young to care. You could see the momentum change when CV "left" (most kids stayed and just sat down a section over) as we went from being down 4-0 to a comeback victory 6-5. We're high school kids KIDS
same old story
9:35 am on Saturday, November 17, 2012
CV hockey has been insane since the days of ED SCHULTZ. High School hockey is a special thing in the high school sports scene. No one was arrested for drugs, alcohol, or any other deviant act. LONG LIVE CV HOCKEY. If you do not like the way the game is played or the fans at it, STAY HOME.
same old story
8:18 pm on Sunday, November 18, 2012
What kind of security will be in place for the next colt hockey game
chris boshhhh
1:44 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
well tonight there is another soiree at the MT. Lebo ice facility. for all you un-classy fellas the theme for tonight's game is business casual and i hope yinz know that us cv folks are going to get nice and rowdy tonight once again. #puckfest
chris boshhhh
1:44 pm on Monday, November 19, 2012
tonight there will be a soiree at the MT. Lebo ice tonight. for all of you un-classy fellas the theme tonight is business causal and for all yinz that are hating on us cv folkswe will be getting evean rowdier than every so hope your ready for us. #puckfest
same old story
8:10 am on Tuesday, November 20, 2012
how bout improve the school district not settle for medicority
Dream On
12:15 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
When you come to a school board meeting, which all are encouraged to do, you'll see the positive changes that have been made and many more changes to come. Or you can choose, like so many others, to not attend, to not encourage the faculty & administration & simply continue to complain. It's easier to complain than to roll up your sleeves & ask , "Where can I help out?"
same old story
12:15 am on Wednesday, November 21, 2012
any drama at the hockey game lastnight


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Carrying weapons is distasteful | Letters
January 29, 2013 · Updated 3:49 PM
I've read enough letters from pro-gun owners that I really need to offer my perspective.
Gary Karg threw out some "facts" about gun ownership in Australia and school shootings in Israel that looked easy to check. Fact is they are NRA talking points that mislead. "Australia disarmed its citizens and the next year crimes involving firearms skyrocketed." Not exactly, the NRA chose one part, of one city, in one state and just two years of data. Robberies involving firearms have declined.
"Israel had a school shooting incident; they train their teachers to shoot and carry weapons. No new school shootings since." Israeli citizens are not allowed to carry guns unless they are serving in the army or working in security-related jobs that require them to use a weapon. The school shooting was a terrorist attack. Israel's anti-terror policies and anti–terror operations are credited with reducing terror attacks to nearly zero. Israel has mandatory military service for all. So technically teachers are trained to shoot and carry weapons like every other citizen.
Yes, it's currently not against the law to carry guns in parks and council chambers.
Those that do carry see it from their perspective, I'm a good citizen and the gun is safe in my hands. I see it from another perspective, I don't know you, you're intimidating people with your ability to kill with one finger and you can easily kill me. People who openly carry weapons because they can are as distasteful as public zit-poppers and nose pickers.
No law against it, go right ahead. I suppose I should take comfort in the fact that you're 4.5 times more likely to get shot than I am.
There's also the notion that with proper training carrying a weapon will prevent shootings. President Reagan was surrounded by armed Secret Service agents and police, but was hit by a bullet anyway. The shooter fired six rounds in less than two seconds. The shooter was subdued without return fire.
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Indians say economics won't be factor in managerial hiring
Money will apparently be no object as the Indians begin their managerial search. That's good, because Terry Francona won't come cheap.
Francona will be in Cleveland on Friday for interviews with Tribe general manager Chris Antonetti and other members of the organization.
Thursday, Sandy Alomar Jr. had his formal interview with club officials at Progressive Field.
In his annual end-of-the-season meeting with reporters on Thursday, Antonetti was vague on whether any other candidates will be brought in for interviews. That could be because the Indians view Alomar and Francona as two exceedingly strong candidates for the job.
Francona would also be an expensive one. His salary in 2011, his last year managing the Boston Red Sox, was $4 million. So if the Indians decided to offer him their managing job, it would probably take something in the neighborhood of three years and $12 million to get the deal done. That would easily make Francona the highest-paid manager in Indians history.
In addition to their new manager's salary, the Indians next year will also be paying their old manager, Manny Acta, about $1 million not to manage the team. Any way you slice it, this is going to be a pricey exchange of nameplates on the door to the manager's office — and the Indians say that's fine with them.
"We don't expect economics to be a factor in hiring our manager," said Antonetti. "We're going to hire the best person for the job."
Clearly, Antonetti and his staff feel strongly about both Francona and Alomar. Francona, 53, has 12 years of managerial experience with the Phillies and Red Sox, and won two World Series in his eight years in Boston.
Prior to taking the Boston job, Francona worked for a year as a special assistant to Mark Shapiro, who was then the Tribe's general manager.
"I've always had a great deal of respect for Terry, having worked with him for over a year, and we've stayed in touch over the last decade," said Antonetti, who was the Indians' assistant general manager when Francona was part of the organization. "It was great to know that Terry had an interest in this job." Continued...
Prior to the emergence of Francona as a candidate, the 46-year-old Alomar, despite the fact he's never managed professionally at any level, seemed like a heavy favorite for the job. In addition to being a link to the powerhouse Indians teams of the 1990s, which continues to feed his popularity among Tribe fans, Alomar was a coach for three years under Acta and served as the interim manager over the last six games of this season.
"As expected, Sandy did a good job," said Antonetti, about Alomar's stint as interim manager. "He was doing a lot of things for the first time. He interacted with coaches and communicated well with the players."
For the last few years, Alomar has been viewed as a manager-in-waiting, be it in Cleveland or elsewhere. He has previously interviewed for managing jobs with the Red Sox, Blue Jays and Cubs.
"From Sandy's days as a player, we identified him as a guy who had leadership qualities, and he has shown those qualities as a coach," said Antonetti.
As the Indians look ahead to 2013, the club will be involved in a major, if not total, rebuilding situation. Alomar has had a lot of experience working with young players in the Indians' system, which could strengthen his candidacy, although Antonetti was quick to point out Francona has similar experience.
"Terry has experience in transitioning young players to the major leagues, he's a great communicator and an accomplished leader," said Antonetti.
Although Antonetti said there is no timetable for finding their man, the fact the Indians began the interviewing process within hours of the end of the regular season could be an indicator the club wants to move quickly on hiring its next manager.
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ALBANY, Ga. -- River Road Church of Christ is set to host a food giveaway aimed to benefit the community's needy and senior citizens on Saturday.
The giveaway will take place from 9 a.m.-1 p.m., or whenever supplies run out, at the church, located at 2023 Martin Luther King Jr. Drive.
To prevent duplication of services, officials are asking that just one representative from each family come in. Those that come by will be asked to show a utility bill or photo ID, and afterward complete a form -- which will inquire as to the number of people in their family.
Once the form is completed, they will receive a ticket. When their ticket number is called, they will receive food.
"We won't turn anyone away," said Robert Clemons, senior minister of the River Road Church of Christ. "We don't ask about income.
"We all know the economy has been tough. When we've been blessed, we know it's the right thing to do (to give back)."
The items they are giving away will include fresh vegetables, bread and cakes. In all, there is 4,000 pounds of food to distribute that is being donated by Second Harvest of South Georgia, Clemons said.
"It's not a total meal, but it will assist for a day or two," he said.
Officials emphasize that food will be given away on a first come, first serve basis. Church officials say they are also expecting to host two or three food distribution events next year.
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It's nice to hear about this church's generosity however, I hate to think of people taking advantage of that. They have to do what God is leading them to do and I truly hope those that are in need are the ones that receive the help!
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Atlanta Falcons Apple Football Snack
Most of you that have been following us for awhile know that we are HUGE Atlanta Falcons fans! We are so very excited to see our Falcons in the play-offs this weekend! We have home field advantage and we are confident that our Falcons will win and go to the Superbowl!!
I made this Atlanta Falcons Apple Football Snack with my 9 year old. It took us about 10 minutes to make and we love how it turned out! You could also do this with other teams with colors using red, yellow & green apples.
Falcons Apple Snack
1 Red Apple
1 Stackers Marshamallow (Jet-Puffed)
Black & Red Edible Marker
Twizzler Strings
Peanut Butter or Frosting
Cut the side out of the apple with a knife. Cut out the Falcon's shape from the stacker marshmallow using kitchen scissors. Draw the Falcon logo on top using the edible markers. Poke holes in the cut out part of the apple and push in the Twizzler strings for the face mask. Attach the marshmallow logo on the side using peanut butte or frosting.
That's it! A super cute after school snack for your little Atlanta Falcons fans!
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[Solved] What to do with a Malware-holder website, when you are its owner
I have 3 domain on my Host. 2 numbers of them have Malware. (as google say)
I have several questions about this:
1. My 3 website files are in 3 different folders. Can a damaged folder (= folder that have Malware), make the others damaged (= give other folders that virus)?
2. Can a full-format clean the host?
3. One my Websites made by Wordpress. If I get a backup of my posts, and then format the host, install wordpress and upload my posts again, can the Malware back to the hosts? (Can the Malware be in my posts backup?)
4. Is formatting the host and then Install wordpress again and upload my posts backup, bad for SEO?
Thanks.What type of server is it (Windows/Linux)?
What type of anti-virus/malware are you running and have you scanned?
Also, if you haven't already, search for files that have been modified since the day before you Google started reporting malware.Quite often Chrome will throw out the 'Malware' warning if there are links to other sites which contain malware. I've seen it when a user's avatar was hosted elsewhere and that site had it. Once the avatar was deleted the warning went away.
You might want to check exactly what it is that Google are saying. Is it that your site contains malware or that it 'contains links' to malware?
That might make a difference.Ok, I contacted my - Linux - host administrator and they get a full scan of my files and found 5 .php virus in one of my domains. I deleted all of that domain (I don't need that anymore)
Can I be sure that my host is totally clean and make a GoogleWMT review?Are you hosting domains for clients, or are these yours?No, they are mine.
There is 3 domain on my public_html. How I can be sure that no file of them haven any virus or malware script?One of my Websites made by Wordpress. If I get a backup of my posts > format the host > install wordpress and upload my posts again, can the Malware back to the host? (Can the Malware script be in my posts backup?)The fact that malware was installed on your site is not the problem. The problem is, your site(s) had a security vulnerability that allowed someone to install malware.
Regardless of whether you're using WP or not, if you restore your sites without making sure the security problem was fixed, then YES, your site can be hacked again.
Talk to your webhost, make sure they find out what caused the problem, make sure the problem is fixed, and then (only then) start thinking about restoring your sites and content. (The issue of google blacklisting you is even less important.)Which Wordpress files were compromised?Make sure you have up-to-date anti virus software installed on ALL computers that you own that have administrative and FTP access to your servers then run a FULL (emphasis on full NOT quick) scan on ALL of your computers. This will eliminate the possibility of them gaining access to your server through a Trojan on one of your computers. After that you can scan your site to see if it still has malware via many online site security companies like Sucuri (http://sucuri.net/) or Website Defender (http://www.websitedefender.com/). Hope this helps.@BobbyJones After a Full local scan and cleaning my PC, how I can remove my current website's malware(s)? Should I use a - premium account of a - defender website or I can do that with a manual check?
@traq I contacted them. They said I remove all of my host's files and then upload them again, with a strong exactitude. I'm not sure about this solution.
@ChristopherBurton Sorry, I couldn't understand your purpose about compromised files.Which files were compromised, as in hacked?farzadina: That seems odd. If there is malware on one of their sites, they (the hosting company) should be very interested in removing it and fixing the underlying problem - not just telling you to do it.
No offense to you, but if you don't know how to deal with these issues, then you shouldn't be the one doing it. That's just common sense. It's your host that should be fixing everything - in fact, they probably have a bigger vested interest in fixing it then you do (they wouldn't want the problem spreading to other paying clients, after all).
There are certainly some things that they would tell you - "don't use such-and-such script anymore," "don't allow people to upload that type of file," and so forth - but the technical end of it is their responsibility. That is what you're paying them for, right?I have fixed website that have this problem, first question, what server service do you use? How much do they help you. If you need some help send me an email.
Cheers,To clean the malware from your site does require some expertise, if you are not comfortable with or not experienced with dealing with site security issues like this then yes I would recommend you sign-up with either Sucuri or website defender. These companies will clean your site for you, as well as doing some basic things to try to prevent your site from becoming re-infected, additionally they will monitor your site so long as you have an account with them, and keep cleaning your site should it get malware again.@traq is correct. My hosting company even went as far as terminating accounts to those who weren't updating Wordpress as it was effecting other account holders.@traq Maybe I said something about my host client wrong. These are my sites, not their sites. And this malware is -only - in my website's files. Also with this description, should they be responsible and interested in fixing problem by them selves? If yes, it looks I should get a better host!
@mevaser I sent you a message.
@BobbyJones Thanks. If I migrate to a suitable host - like HostGator - should I use those security websites yet or they (e.g. Hostgator) do that for me?
@ChristopherBurton I don't know completely with files were compromised, I think some javascript codes made me this problem. Was that what your purpose?
I think you can help me to remove the malware code by my self, because all of my files are less than 30 number. (all of the .html .js and .css files)
*As I said, I have 3 domains. I checked them on Sucuri, just 2 number of them have malware and blacklisted and one of them is 100% clean.
I get a full scan of my PC with Nod32, and now I can say it's clean. So should do the second step and cleaning my host.
I need your help to do that:
I removed all of website's files, but yet 'Sucuri' say me that there is malware-holder file yet. Why? (My host show hidden files also)
Can the malware be somewhere else that public_html?
The sucuri say that security warning URL is on: http://mydomain.com/404javascript.js
Why/How I can't/can see that file?
Thanks.Also, besides the good advice that BobbyJones gave about making sure your computers don't have viruses or trojans, make sure to use encrypted FTP, and make sure you don't store your passwords on your computer. Once, about 3 years ago, I was on my home network and doing some plain FTP. The websites I was working on got malicious code, and even after I removed it, it just kept coming back. The problem was that my mom's computer, on the same network, had a trojan/virus that was sniffing network traffic. It was taking my FTP login and sending it out to somebody else, and then that person could do anything they wanted to do to my websites! If I had used encrypted FTP, it would have never happened. I was reading about the trojan/virus, and it was capable of grabbing stored passwords, so I stopped storing them on the computer. Yes, it is a hassle to enter them every time, but it will save you from big headaches.@farzadina - it doesn't matter who owns the sites - who owns the server? If you're paying a hosting company to host your sites, then they have an interest in your sites' security. (Realistically, this is true even of free hosting, but in practice you can't expect much when you're not paying for anything.)
Yes, there are things that will be your responsibility to address, but they should be taking the lead in situations like this, especially where more technical matters are involved. If they're not (or, worse yet, if they don't seem to care), then I would be looking for a more responsible host.@traq I'm on a paying host, and it's not free. I have to and will re-think about my host company.
@skunkbad Yes, you are completely true. I don't keep my passwords in my PC, and also have FTP account; but most of the times, use directly .../cpanel web page, and sure that's a un-secure method. In the future 'only' I will use FTP to reach my host's files. Thanks for your notification.Please help about this:
I think you can help me to remove the malware code by my self, because all of my files are less than 30 number. (all of the .html .js and .css files)
*As I said, I have 3 domains. I checked them on Sucuri, just 2 number of them have malware and blacklisted and one of them is 100% clean. (as sucuri & google said)
I get a full scan of my PC with Nod32, and now I can say it's clean. So should do the second step and cleaning my host.
I need your help to do that:
I removed all of website's files, but yet 'Sucuri' say me that there is malware-holder file yet. Why? (My host show hidden files also)
Can the malware be somewhere else that public_html?
The sucuri say that security warning URL is on: http://mydomain.com/404javascript.js
Why/How I can't/can see that file?One thing to note about the Sucuri website scanner is that it will cache your initial scan results, so make sure you hit the "Re-Scan" button on the scan results page after you removed the files.Additionally you may want to read through some of the following articles they have very good information regarding the type of stuff you are dealing with including step by step instructions:
http://codex.wordpress.org/Hardening_WordPressYes, I'm care about Re-Scan.
Something that I should say is my hacked web is not wordpress based, and my wp blog is totally clean.Hmm, I found the malware codes! The malware redirection codes were in my root .htaccess file. I checked all of the .htaccess files except this one & now as sucuri say, my domains are totally clean. I think it's time to have a google review and I'm hopeful that they stay clean.
Thank to all and a special thanks to you Bobby!


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The greatest death metal discovery in 2012 and in recent times...Wherever Dan Swanö is involved, it's pure gold!
This good as new CD from the auction site for only 10,00 €...
Brand new limited digipack (with 1 bonus track) from a known auction seller for only 7,77 €...
Good as new CD from another known auction seller for 9,00 €...
All "silver editions" of these albums.
Will be listening for sure.
"I'll SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!"
-Benjamin Franklin
Green Day - First album
Queen - A Night at the Opera
Well I dont want no preacher telling me about the god in the sky
No I dont want no one to tell me where Im gonna go when I die
I wanna live my life, I dont want people telling me what to do
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Joy To The World, Greatest Hits - Three Dog Night
Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law
Death - Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy and Spiritual Healing...
The 2006 Century Media reissues of these albums? Is that correct? Oh well.
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"I'll SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!"
-Benjamin Franklin
A couple essential books
Doom Let Loose
Black Sabbath FAQ
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Gary Numan - The Pleasure Principle (with bonus tracks)
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Depends on who is doing the rating. If they agree with me, they've rated it just right.
Yes I think that they are the 2006 Century Media reissues - I have been trying to get the first 2 (I have Spiritual Healing original pressing)
For a long time - the places I frequent for CDs said that they were out of print - did you special order them or get them online?
I would love to know so I can get them too.
Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law
I got them in my preferred metal shop, but it seems they're imports from Argentina under a combined "Icarus Music" and Century Media banner.
Therefore I'm not sure if they're bootlegs or genuinely legal copies, as I never heard of an Icarus Music before but do know Century Media from my Iced Earth purchases.
As for ordering, nope. Just saw them pop up there at random and decided I must have these.
"I'll SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!"
-Benjamin Franklin
Hans Zimmer- Dark Knight Rises Soundtrack
Slipknot- Antennas of Hell Best Of w/live disc (got it last week in prep for last night's Mayhem; not as bad as I originally thought....)
Dream Theater- Images and Words and Change of Seasons
Fight- War of Words
As far as I know, there are following prints:
Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy and Spiritual Healing
- Combat Records original prints
- Century Media 1999 jewel case reissue (no remastering, bonus tracks)
- Century Media 2008 digipack reissue (remastered, bonus tracks)
Human and Individual Thought Patterns
- Combat Records original prints
- Century Media 1999 jewel case reissue (no remastering)
- Century Media 2008 digipack reissue (remastered)
- Relapse 2011 2CD slipcase/3CD digipack (remixed & remastered)
- Roadrunner Records original print
- Roadrunner Records 2008 special edition (remastered, bonus tracks)
The Sound Of Perseverance
- Nuclear Blast original print
- Nuclear Blast 2001 reissue (no remastering)
- Nuclear Blast 2005 Deluxe Edition (no remastering, bonus live DVD)
- Relapse 2011 2CD slipcase/3CD digipack (no remix, only remastered)
I've just bought Lateralus by Tool.
I think I've got one of the first edition, because the title track is mispelled as "Lateralis". Can someone confirm this please ?
Metallurgy - Fatum Ferro (Doom/Thrash Metal) : http://www.facebook.com/pages/Metall...09403985780438
Motörhead - S/t & On Parole (pretty much like the Eternal Idol Deluxe except different guitarists)
Scorpions - Lovedrive & Blackout
Let me tell you now, about a friend of mine. He tried to shoot them lights, with whiskey and the wine. He didn't get so far, ah his gun was wrong. Now my sweet friend, where's your song? Shoot out the lights, shoot out the lights.
Tales From The Thousand Lakes - Amorphis
Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law
I just won the auction for this good as new CD & DVD edition for a total of 13,00 €...
This album marks the long overdue completion of my King Diamond collection...
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I' ve got the same .
the DVD is ... Special !! only for fans
Testament - Dark Roots Of Earth
Wings - Venus and Mars
Desperado[remastered] - The Eagles
Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law
I hope it's the glossy digipack...if not, there's the bonus DVD anyway. I've seen the footage before, where King - in full mask & outfit - recounts the story of the album on one take, which is pretty majestic and creepy at the same time...yeah, only for us fans! Plus of course, the album itself is one of the best albums King ever made! It was still on the tour for this album that I saw King live for the first time, it was in April 2006...me and my good friends had our faces painted for the occasion as well, one of us even had a top hat...it was a massive show even though King was close to cancel because of flu...sure, we were pretty hammered when the night was over...good memories from the time of this great album!
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Diablo Swing Orchestra - Pandora's Pinata
King of Asgard - ...to North
Both random purchases from local store - haven't listened to either yet, so can't report any opinions (still listening to Testament in the car )
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I don't need wings to reach the sky
And I don't need hands to hold you tight...
~~~ Coroner ~~~
Another Finnish death metal classic (Xtreem Music CD 2011) with Demo II '90 and Cranial Torment demo '89...
This brand new CD from the auction site for only 8,90 ...
Couple of DVD's
Judas Priest - Electric Eye
Chickenfoot - Get Your Buzz On Live
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Ordered some essential albums that luckily happened to be on sale on Recordshop X - three albums for 18:
"The consequence of conscience/Is that you'll be left somewhere/Swinging in the air"-Ronnie James Dio (1942-2010) R.I.P. King Of Metal
"Just take a look around you what do you see/Pain, suffering, and misery/It's not the way that the world was planned/It's a pity you don't understand" - Geezer Butler
"If god is in heaven/How can this happen here" - Phil Lynott (1949-1986)
This good as new CD from the local book & second hand store for 6,90 ...
This DVD from the local Top Ten store for only 4,99 ...
Total genre break, have absolutely no clue what this is just yet.
"I'll SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!"
-Benjamin Franklin
Last year, I discovered the resurrected heavy metal band HELL featuring the world reknown Andy Sneap handling guitars and production. In the process, aided by the suggestions of my older friend, I also discovered the fierce vocalist Martin Walkyier and the old thrash metal band SABBAT.
Today I collected my customer order (Noise Records/Sanctuary Records Expanded Edition CD 2007) from the local Top Ten store for only 7,95 €...
I think this is the greatest British thrash metal album of all time to come...
Great purchase, I love Sabbat. Have you also tried Skyclad for more Walkyer-style goodness? The albums 'Burnt Offering for the Bone Idol', 'Jonah's Ark', 'The Silent Whales of Lunar Sea' and especially 'Prince of the Poverty Line' are all superb. Skyclad did get a bit patchy later, but those 4 albums are all well worth checking out, if you haven't already.
'Prince of the Poverty Line' has my favourite Walkyer performances of all, there's so much articulate venom in his delivery.
I don't need wings to reach the sky
And I don't need hands to hold you tight...
~~~ Coroner ~~~
I know Skyclad by name but have never heard them...I do love Walkyier's vocals, they're venomous indeed!
Thank you Totentanz for the first actual recommendation of Skyclad, this is exactly one of the ways that I discover new bands - by a knowing recommendation from a long time fan.
The 2-CD edition by Relapse Records, and the company sleeve inside revealing that PETA has their support.
PETA? Holy hell, no. Excellent music, though.
"Silver" edition with bonus tracks.
Both of these for only €20 combined.
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"I'll SWALLOW YOUR SOUL!"
-Benjamin Franklin
When it comes to highly technical and progressive yet fiercely tasteful riff-loaded metal, in 13 years no other band in the genre has succeeded in making an album that is clearly more concise, exciting, powerful and timeless than this masterpiece. Chuck Schuldiner and his cohorts are still holding the top position of this genre with this mighty album.
Covenant - Morbid Angel
Do what thou will shall be the whole of the law
New order for a total of 41,65 € from Record Shop X...
The last 2 studio albums to complete my Testament collection...
Another Finnish death metal classic (Xtreem Music CD 2006) with Unholy Domain demo '91...the new batch is coming in few weeks...
Crowned in Earth - Visions of the Haunted
Altar of Oblivion - Sinews of Anguish
Got these modern traditional doom albums on sale 50% at soundsofpurgatory.com. I paid $12.50 combined.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail pic extravaganza! http://www.black-sabbath.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31523
Tonight's auction deals...
The last missing Grave album (before the release of the new album "Endless Procession Of Souls" on August 31st) from a known seller for only 6,50 ...good as new...
The latest album (brand new CD) from http://dtd.erraticsporadicism.org/ for only 5,00 ...
Accept Blood of the Nations (2010)
Accept Stalingrad (2012)
Kreator Phantom Antichrist (2012)
(Accept and Kreator will be playing together in L.A. on Sept. 26 so this is in preparation for that show.)
Control Denied The Fragile Art of Existence (1999)
(Saw this posted on the previous page, read more about it, thought it sounded interesting.)
If you have an eight year old son, and you're getting fat anyway...
you're doing something wrong.
Finally Finally...took me waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long.
After first listen, not as brilliant as Death Magic Doom or The King, but still a very strong album and Rob sounds just fuckin' amazing again!
-Too many flames, with too much to burn, and life's only made of paper. Oh how I need to be free of this pain but it goes over and over and over again-
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We've made it to 10!
In this episode, we figured we'd do a we bit o' St. Patricks Day drinkin'! This episode will probably hit a week or so after St. Patty's day so we went for Irish Car Bombs. Unfortunately for Hoover, he had to leave shortly after recording, which was probably not a very good idea… We already started falling off after our first glass of Jameson neat (using my new Whisky stones).
Brad's been watching Roseanne, Trailer Park Boys & I Spit on Your Grave (the remake), Hoover's been watching Sparticus, he loves any movies of ripped men sweating & wrestling each other.
Brad's been listening to the new Donald Glover "Childish Gambino" album, we've been listening to Rob Hubel's new Podcast "Mike Detective" and Hoover talks about an old Radio Serial Drama called "Box 13″.
And finally, we drool about our love of The Original Pancake House and the infamous Roscoes Chicken and Waffles.
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Singapore's National Library has a fascinating exhibit that's on till end-February. Letters of Sir Thomas Stamford Raffles (1781-1826), maps and engravings tell the story of Singapore's birth (1819) against the background of European competition for trade supremacy.
Mainly to India Governor-General Lord Francis Rawdon-Hastings, Raffles' letters and scholarly wall text encompass geopolitics, British corporate workings, and dynamics of city development. They also deepen our understanding of our own history.
Trade between Europe and Asia had been via the ancient Silk Road controlled by Indians, Arabs and Venetians. Motivated by the highly profitable spice trade (initially pepper and cinnamon), European countries sought alternative maritime routes to Asia: Columbus crossed the Atlantic in 1492; Vasco da Gama reached India via the Cape of Good Hope in 1498; and Magellan and Elcano, the Philippines and Indonesia in 1521 after a Pacific Ocean crossing.
Trade accelerated with the new routes with Europe importing mainly spices, silk, porcelain, and tea and exporting silver (from Spain's American colonies) and manufactured goods, including cotton and—horrors!—opium (from India).
As first movers, Portugal and Spain established footholds in Africa, India and Southeast Asia. The Dutch and British followed suit. In the ensuing centuries, Venice declined as Spain's Manila Galleon monopolized trans-Pacific trade and as the British East India Company and the Dutch United East India Company competed on the Cape of Good Hope route.
The Spice Islands (Moluccas) were hotly contested and with European countries perpetually at war, trading posts and colonies changed hands as conflicts spilled overseas. By 1803 when the Napoleonic Wars began (France vs. everyone else), Malacca (Malaysia) and much of Indonesia were Dutch; Bencoolen (Sumatra), Penang (Malaysia) and much of India were British. The Portuguese were in Goa (India), Timor (Indonesia) and Macau (China). Spain was here and the Marianas.
The British invaded Malacca and Java as pro-French, but both places were returned to the Dutch after Waterloo.
Raffles convinced Lord Hastings that British presence on the Strait of Malacca was essential to maintain trade advantage. He negotiated with the Sultan of Johore's deputy for a barely inhabited but strategic island and founded Singapore. (Later, the British and Dutch exchanged Bencoolen and Malacca.) Singapore's earliest land map, only recently discovered, designates areas for government buildings, docks and warehouses, military use, a European town, kampongs for Malays, etc.
The Galleon Trade ceased in 1815 with revolutions in Latin American and for other reasons. Heretofore closed to other European countries, Manila allowed British, American and other trading houses to open shop. The Spanish colonial government, formerly focused on the Galleon Trade, turned its attention to the local economy, giving rise to the sugar, coconut, abaca, and coffee industries that we still depend on.
Other countries continued in their ambitions. The British negotiated for Sabah with the Sultan of Sulu; Belgium's King Leopold II wanted to buy the Philippines; France went into Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia; Germany and France colonized Pacific Ocean islands; the U.S. got the Philippines and the Marianas.
It all began with pepper.
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The St. George 4th of July celebration will make the most of southern Utah's magnificent natural theater launching incendiaries from four separate sites, simultaneously and choreographed in a 21-minute presentation of music and patriotic narration broadcast "Live" by 99.9 KONY FM.
Local radio personality, Carl Lamar, will recount our great nation's pride and prowess, interlaced in a full length soundtrack of music and song in harmony with a panorama of pyrotechnics filling the skies of Utah's Dixie.
Wherever you are, whatever you are doing, whoever you are with, whether on rooftops, playing in the park, walking, entertaining or hosting a private evening at home, look to the sky of St. George and tune into 99.9 KONY FM for the musical narration of this spectacular event.


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Parties unite against colleges Bill
08:25, Mar 20 2013
Opposition politicians at Holyrood have united to call for legislation aimed at reforming Scotland's college and university sector to be delayed.
Labour, the Tories and the Liberal Democrats joined forces to urge the Scottish Government to put the Post-16 Education (Scotland) Bill on hold.
The legislation includes provisions for college regionalisation, which could lead to colleges merging or working together more closely. It also aims to widen access to higher education and seeks to set an upper limit for tuition fees for university students coming to Scotland from the rest of the UK.
Labour branded the proposals "a real dog's breakfast", and said the legislation was "not fit for purpose", while the Tories described it as a "bad Bill".
MSPs on Holyrood's Education and Culture Committee have been scrutinising the legislation.
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Neil Findlay, Labour's spokesman on skills and learning and the committee's deputy convener, said: "This Bill is a real dog's breakfast. Witness after witness criticised different aspects of the Bill and many issues remain unclear and unanswered. In its current state, the Bill is not fit for purpose."
Tory education spokeswoman Liz Smith, who is also a member of the committee, argued: "This is currently a bad Bill." She said many people in the college and university sector were "confused" about whether the proposed legislation "will actually deliver the desired outcomes".
The Conservative MSP added: "What matters most is the ability of both further education and higher education institutions to deliver better quality education - I have not been persuaded that this Bill can do that."
Liberal Democrat Liam McArthur raised fears the Bill would not deliver on its aims. Mr McArthur, another member of the Education Committee, said: "Widening access, improving governance and ensuring colleges and universities deliver high quality education to students of all ages are aims I fully support. However, there is widespread evidence that this Bill will not help achieve this and gives ministers powers they don't need. These concerns must be addressed before this Bill can be allowed to proceed."
A spokesman for Education Secretary Mike Russell said: "The opposition parties are engaged in an unholy alliance. They would force Scottish students to pay exorbitant fees, restrict access to higher education and would inhibit our attempts to get more young people into employment. The proof of our reforms is in the pudding. Colleges are delivering the valuable skills training our young people need, universities are beginning to take steps to widen access and our actions to tackle youth unemployment are delivering results."
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DeKalb County Sheriff Thomas Brown said his department will run out of overtime money this summer after the board of commissioners cut his budget next year by $900,000 – a reduction that led to his threatening commissioners with a lawsuit.
But, now, Brown said his staff is looking for areas to cut in his budget to keep officers on patrol. Traditionally, the jail has operated with 60 fewer detention officers than the number recommended in a 1995 county staffing study, Brown said. He said he uses the department's overtime budget to keep the jail fully staffed.
"When you don't have enough people to do it, you have to rely on overtime," he said. "I've always run my overtime in the red because it's always been under-funded."
The board of commissioners passed a $564.9 million budget last month that cut about $20 million from CEO Burrell Ellis' budget issued in December. Rather than pass the 1.86 millage increase in Ellis' budget on to taxpayers, commissioners rejected the plan and chose to cut $900,000 from Brown's budget in the final hour along with cuts to other departments.
Brown said his budget next year is about $75 million.
He said he predicts the department will exhaust its overtime funds this July. He said he couldn't say where he plans to cut, but the money will likely come from operating funds. He said he also earmarked more than $800,000 to pay the department's bills late last year – bills that were not paid until after the commissioners passed their budget. So, the money is coming out of his budget this year. "I don't have a ($900,000) reduction. I have a $1.7 million reduction from my budget," he said.
Brown said he's not close to filing a lawsuit yet. "They tell me privately that they're going to take care of it, but I don't know what they're dealing with over there," he said. "When it gets to the point that we don't have monies to do that then we're going to have to start cherry picking the things that we can't do because we don't have the money to fund it.
"There has to be an appreciation of the sheriff's office role in public safety."
To save residents and business owners a tax increase, the board made cuts to some law enforcement agencies. The district attorney's office lost $250,000. More departments saw increases, however. More than $250,000 was restored to the probate court's budget. Nearly $400,000 was restored to the magistrate court's budget. Nearly $1.3 million was restored to the superior court, and nearly $1.2 million was restored to state court.
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A restricted left-turn signal has been installed at 71st Street and Sheridan Road, which now means every major improved intersection along 71st Street west of the Mingo Valley Expressway has the signal. Traffic flow continues on a good pace at the intersection, which was widened in 1986 under a 1983 bond issue project. The intersection's approaching streets still are two lanes, but some improvements are planned as a result of the 1991 sales tax. An interim project to widen 71st Street to three lanes with a center left-turn lane has been completed between Yale Avenue and Sheridan Road and between Memorial Drive and near 70th East Avenue. A small creek bridge prevents the lane from continuing all of the way to Sheridan Road. The sales tax also has projects to widen Sheridan Road between 61st and 81st streets. This project likely will be built in the late 1990s. Photo taken July 1994.
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Position: Adjunct Instructor - Cultures Courses - St. Louis, MO
Date posted: Thursday, February 28, 2013
Department: Division of Adult Higher Education - St. Louis, MO
Location: St. Louis, MO
Type: Academic
Term: Part time
Columbia College in St. Louis, MO seeks adjunct instructors to teach Cultures Courses. Will teach evening adult centered courses starting as early as 5p.m. and ending as late as 10:15p.m. two to four nights a week, for eight week sessions(40 contact hours in 8 weeks). For the Cultures Courses, the incumbent must be able to show "immersion" in the culture. Possible Culture topics are: African Culture, Latin American Culture, Italian Culture South Asian Culture, French Cultures and Middle Eastern Culture.
Adjunct approval and course offering by the March Session. The March Session starts March 21, 2011 and ends May 30, 2011.
Incumbent must be able to sufficiently use technology, order his/her own text book(free of charge as a faculty member), create an electronic syllabus, meet deadlines given by Assistant Director and Director and deliver a quality education to Columbia College-St. Louis students. Incumbent must have an earned Master's Degree in the field or closely related field with documented coursework on their transcript that is specific to the topic. A combination of teaching experience and practical professional experience is preferred.
Scanned copy of Masters' Level transcripts are required, however Official Transcripts are required if we pursue final Adjunct approval.
The offer of employment and assignment to duties is contingent upon a satisfactory criminal background check. The information may include, but is not limited to, academic, residential, achievement, performance, attendance, disciplinary, employment history, credit history, driving history, and criminal history of public record.
Interested applicants can apply online at www.ccis.edu, or by submitting a completed Columbia College application, resume and cover letter to:
Columbia College Human Resources
1001 Rogers Street
Columbia, MO 65216
or via fax (573) 875-7266
Review of applications will begin immediately and continue until the position is filled. Columbia College is an equal opportunity employer.


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Start: Thursday, August 1, 2013 @ 6:00 PM
Race Start 6:00pm
Stevens Creek Reservoir11401 Stevens Canyon Rd Cupertino, CA
Saturday, August 10, 2013 @ 11:59 PM PST
This is the first race in a three race series. The swim will be a two loop course for a total of 1500 Meters. The run is a loop course of 5km. The run is a trail run on soft dirt trails. Course is very spectator friendly with multiple views along the course from the main parking lot.
Prizes will be awarded: Top 3 male/female Top 3 masters (40+) male/female Top 3 senior masters(50+) male/female.
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