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After the Conventions: Who Will Win the 2012 Presidential Election, Obama or Romney?
Now that the Democratic and Republican delegates have officially chosen their nominees, Patch wants to know: Who are you betting on?
It's official: With President Barack Obama's acceptance speech in Charlotte Thursday night, both the Republicans and Democrats have formally chosen their nominees for the 2012 presidential election. Let the real race begin.
A lot can change between now and Nov. 6: Gaffes, scandals or even major international news events could shift the dynamics of the campaign.
The latest Gallup Polls show registered voters preferring Obama to Mitt Romney by just one percentage point, 47 percent to 46 percent. A USA Today/Gallup poll taken just before the party conventions found American voters think Obama is more likeable, but trust Romney more to handle the economy.
Pundits have been busy for months handicapping the major-party candidates on various factors: incumbent advantage, fundraising clout, even religion.
Patch wants to know: Regardless of who you support for President, who do you think will actually claim victory in November?
Read more about the conventions.
Vote in our poll below, and let us know your reasoning in the comments.
11:01 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
Hey ... he wants four more years .... why didn't he do some of this stuff the last four years, especially when he had CONTROL of everything the first two years. What is wrong with DRILL HERE DRILL NOW .... back in Jan 2009 ?? EH ?? He is full of himself ... and that's about it.
stanley seigler
12:39 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
not that it makes any difference, but hate to see anyone mis-state facts. DEMs had a house majority in 2009-10. DEMs had/have a majority in the senate. they did/have NOT have/had 60 votes in senate which is needed to control.
GOPs stated JOB #1 was to make BO a one 'termer'.
regardless of majorities; it's difficult for BO (any president) to turn the economy around, when the opposition's JOB #1 is to make the president a one 'termer' and increase the wealth of the 1%...vice creating jobs and improving the country's general welfare.
BO (any president) often are unable to do the 'stuff' they proposed...eg, all presidents from truman to BO proposed health care reform...none til BO did anything.
Dr. John
5:23 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Do you think the democrats objective in 2004 was to make george bush a 2 term president? The war on bush started immediately after he was elected. Also, why do you hate the so-called 1% so much? They pay 37% of all federal income taxes and this percentage has doubled in the last 30 years. The real war should be on the bottom 50% of tax payers who pay virtually no federal income tax. Now, save the argument on sales taxes, excise taxes, and payroll taxes the top 1% pay more of those taxes as well. How has the GOP made it their goal to increase the income of the top 1%? Do they think they can win elections by capturing only that 1%?
Jeannie Jones
11:24 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
Our country is in so much trouble we need alot of miracles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Proud Conservative Woman
9:05 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Jeannie, you are so right. Keep praying, because that is really the only way this country is going to get out of the mess we are in.
9:30 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
PROUD CONSERVATIVE WOMAN ..... PRAYING is NOT going to get us out of this mess.... it's much worse than that. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ! ! !
11:51 am on Friday, September 7, 2012
If the Republicans win and don't change the direction this country is going, consider the party history. Now is the chance to change those things that are hurting the country. There MUST be compromise in order for congress to get things done, otherwise, it makes little difference which party is in power. Obama is in over his head but is too stubborn to admit it. We need someone to lead who can work with the other party and appoints people who are intelligent enough to understand the problems and fix them, not neceessarily a cohort or politician. Get the best people in their fields.
11:17 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
The problem with your comment maisenbluedoc is that OBAMA is the only one trying to work with both parties. Obama fully understands the problems and has produced bills to do so just to be tabled in the house, whoes only mission is to make Obama fail at the country's expense. Did you not learn anything when the REPUBLICAN party was holding the country hostage for an extension of the very expensive Bushy tax gifts??? Did you not learn anything when our credit rating was down graded due to the REPUBLICAN obstuctionism?? I believe by buying into the fear mongering the Republican are selling is simply accepting their adolesant behavior. I think the best thing for this country is to REELECT Obama and DEMAND that his ideas be given a chance. We gave the failed Republican policies a chance and have paid dearly for it. The REPUBLICAN party is this country's biggest threat at the moment. KICK THE ENTIRE Grover Norquist, Koch snorting brother gang to the FRACKING curb.
12:31 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
REG why is it that you always have to throw INSULTS when you post a comment ? Don't you have any GOOD FACTS you can use ?
1:47 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
when people insult the readers here with completely made-up information, only because they think other readers lack the intellect to see what they're trying to pull, then I can insult right back.
9:47 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Show me one time you've used facts Gretchen? If you can you'll likely see the people who aren't in the bag regressives either shut up or acknowledge your fact.
I can point to your post at 12:50 pm Friday night for an instance where you posted false information. The first post of this thread is from a regressive is false.
Morons who say that anytime somebody insults a moron it's because they lost the argument only solidify their standing as a moron. Nobody is calling you stupid because you're right bob, you're wrong on (almost?) every thing I've see you post. Significantly wrong most of the time, like exactly the opposite of what is true. All in the name of hoping to convince people of your ideological view? If your view is based on lies then nobody but the very naive or very stupid will share it. Which is I guess why the GOP is where it is today.
2:34 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
You mean like you Gretchen asking if I am on WELFARE??? To answer you delusional question I am not a corporation so how could I be on welfare????
12:50 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Stanley ... he had 60 votes the first year..... and he should have MADE HAY WHILE THE SUN SHONE . Instead, he BLAMES all his ills on someone else. He is the one who wanted to be PREZ.... we did not force him. It's time for him to take the blame for his failures.
11:24 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Nope. He had 59. And a guaranteed walk-through needed 60. Keep it real, Gretchen.
11:25 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Well Gretchen I don't know if you are intentional lying or you simply don't understand the process of passing a bill. You see the only time Obama had a FILIBUSTER proof control was for his first FOUR months. You do remember Scott Brown don't you??? Futhermore Gretchen when you have a party (THE REPUBLICANS) who has one mission from the FIRST DAY OBAMA took office to bring him down at all cost, I can't see how you can condone the behavior of the Republican party and blame ONE man who doesn't even have a vote. Don't you find that kinda strange??? Why is it Gretchen that the house has been sitting on Obama's jobs bill for over a year??? Why is it Gretchen that when Obama gave the house a budget they marked it up with nonsense to ensure NOBODY would vote for it??? Furthermore Gretchen MOST economist predict that with Obama's policies in place that 2013 will be very good for all. At least if your going to try to debate an issue Gretchen you should at least understan both sides not just the side you learn from FAUX comedy show. Just saying
Obama 2012 the only sensible choice.
12:54 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Good post bluedoc! Wonder how Obama Care got passed if they did not have the votes? I do not think any republicans voted for that bill. Until we start working together and at least slow down the bashing of each other we will continue to slip as a country.
12:59 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
The problem with OBAMA is he cannot bring the GOP and DEMS together. He is unable! Look at Clinton and Bush. They were able to pass bills because they could bring all parties together. Obama is too much of a narcissist to do that. He has to be the CENTER OF ATTENTION at all times.
1:02 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
STS ... at the time OBAMACARE was passed he had the votes. YOu are right ... not one REPUBLICAN voted for that horrible bill.
4:48 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
The Republican party is firmly under the control of the 1%. People like the Koch brothers, with Grover Norquist as their enforcer and their stooge Carl Rove to do their dirty work. Any Republican politician who even breathes "compromise" or "cooperation" will be ostracized by the party and will never be reelected. That is the primary reason that the Republican party of today is radically idealistic, partisan, and obstructionist.
The Affordable Care Act passed with ZERO cooperation from Republicans. Why was that? Why weren't the Republicans in Congress interested in helping to craft a bill that would appeal to everyone? Are we to believe that NO ONE in the Republican party, none of the hard working men and women who voted for these people, thinks that health care reform was an important issue?
Between 2000 and 2010, health insurance premiums have increased 114% and workers' contributions to premiums (that the part that you and I pay, whether you're a Republican OR a Democrat) have increased 147%. Health care spending has outpaced economic growth in this country for the past four decades and now consumes 17.9% of our Gross Domestic Product. With health care costs skyrocketing for decades, and millions of Americans, our brothers and sisters, without insurance, SOMETHING HAD TO BE DONE.
So all you "ObamaCare" bashers out there have no one to blame but your own party. If you aren't going to participate in the process, you don't get to complain about the results!
11:32 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Actually the ACA got passed with Republican support and then the Democrats passed it in the senate. You will never again see the Republican work together as long as you accept the behavior from them over the last 4 years. If you don't take a stand and send a crystal clear message to the Republicans that it isn't always their way or we will hold the country hostage they will only think your silence is agreeing with them. Obama needs to be reelected and those that were put in the house promising jobs and have spent their time on abortions and obstruction need to be voted out. Do you even realize what turmoil electing those social interest group have created in the Republican party??? When is it acceptable for a US congressmen to pledge alligence to someone or something besides the American people?? Who the heck elected Grover Norquist???? When did it become ok for billionaire such as the Koch Brother to decided for all of us??? You might not like the facts, but they are true.
Obama is the only solution FOR BOTH parties
12:13 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
@mimi - Thanks for the correction, I wasn't counting the House.
3:41 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Hey BOB MARTIN ... that just about sums it up... doesn't it ???
4:12 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Here you go martin, bob don't let your head explode. Just keep in mind this was WITHOUT a financial fall out. http://money.cnn.com/2003/06/06/news/economy/jobs/
4:20 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Hey bob, martin and Gretchen take two tax cuts and call me in the morning. Tax cuts the cure all of the Republican party.
8:19 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Rusty Inman ... you say we have lost 600,000 jobs in the PUBLIC SECTOR .... hey ... WOW ! ! That's great! Now we need to get rid of about 50% more of those bureaucrats. Most of them DO NOTHING most of the day anyway. The only time they are really BUSY is when their political bosses are up for re-election.
Rusty Inman
12:22 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
It is interesting that, on the one hand, you fault the president for the "terrible" unemployment rate while, on the other hand, you rejoice that over 600,000 public sector workers have lost their jobs (as I noted above, 70% of them in Red States since 2010) and cheerfully admit that you wish 50% of those remaining would lose their jobs, too.
Beyond the mean-spirited sentiment and the inconsistency of blaming the president for something you're happy about, it might be important to remember that (1) the vast majority of public sector employees are not what you call "bureaucrats," but hard-working laborers (they collect your garbage, keep your sewer cleaned out and water running, keep public buildings clean and repaired, build and repair many of your roads, etc.), teachers, law-enforcement personnel, firefighters, First Responders, air-traffic controllers, food inspectors, building inspectors, secretaries, clerks; i.e., people without whom your life would be much more difficult and far less safe, (2) every public sector employee is a real person for whom a lost job can be catastrophic for him/her and his/her family, (3) 600,000 people without money to spend makes any economic recovery just that much harder, and (4) the loss of 600,000 public sector jobs has led to the loss of tens of thousands of private sector jobs.
I'm done. You exemplify a tone and tenor of visceral anger that destroys dialogue, so I'm gonna' leave you and your buds with it.
8:21 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Hey MIMI .... are you on WELFARE or something like that ???
8:26 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
One more thing MIMI ..... Obama has NEVER TRIED to compromise with the GOP. PERIOD. Presidents usually regularly meet with the opposition to iron things out.... but OBAMA is too busy playing golf, or doing fund raisers to bother with such nonsense. Look at BILL CLINTON -- he was a fine example of working with Republicans and moving the country FORWARD. I'm afraid with OBAMA we will move BACKWARD even more. Why don't you go read some of the UK papers and see what the BRITS think of Obama.? You might learn something .
2:40 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Only in your delusional fantasy land presented to you by FAUX comedy show and your inability to tell the difference between fact and fiction. Tax cut please
2:43 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Just face it Gretchen the only viable candidate you had was John Huntsman and you let the lunatics amongst you run off the only chance your party had or returning to reality. BYE BYE Gretchen
Lady Godiva
9:11 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Obama still hasn't a clue how to get us out of the economic mess: http://tinyurl.com/cbht3mr. We know we can trust Romney/Ryan to have a solid budget-cutting plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. Obama's empty promises won't save us. It's time to move on to the team who can get the job done and get this country back on track.
2:41 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Now lady that is funny you can't trust Robme or Ayn Ryan to do anything other than hand out tax cuts to the rich at everyone's else's expense. I don't know which track your hoping to get back on but no thanks I think I will ride the Obama train forward.
Take 2 tax cuts and call me in the morning
12:10 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
According to your own source, Obama had nothing to do with the delays in budget reports it details. The Republicans themselves are trying to find someone to blame, the article says - "Republicans have tried to tie the tardiness to the failure of the Senate to pass a budget resolution for the last three years." In what way, then, is this a reflection on the president?
9:32 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
REG you need to go see the documentary 2016 which even CBS says every American should see.
10:55 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
CBS didn't say every American should see it; one CBS affiliate posted a column by Scott Paulson (which is titled "The Right Politics," complete with GOP logo) about the "film." The affiliate even had to post a disclaimer at the bottom of his review, too.
2:45 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
The only people that need to see the FICTIONAL conspiracy theory comedy is delusional people like you Gretchen that would believe just about anything. Gullible come to mind???
Jamie Healy
11:11 am on Saturday, September 8, 2012
I hope and pray that America trashes these two candidates and goes for Johnson. He's our only "hope" in this bs election.
stanley seigler
12:14 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
111th congress: 2009-2011
112th congress: 2011-2013
From January 3 to April 28, 2009, prior to Senator Arlen Specter's switch to the Democratic Party, there was one fewer Democratic seat and one vacancy. The vacancy was filled as an additional Democratic seat July 7, 2009, when Al Franken was sworn in. The 58th Senate Democratic seat was regained September 25, 2009 after Paul G. Kirk Jr. (D-Mass.) was sworn in as the late Senator Edward M. Kennedy's interim replacement.
due to senate rules 60 votes are needed to pass leislation...thus when GOP (any party's) job one is to BLOCK BO (any president)...it was/is difficult for BO (any president) to get any of his/her legislation passed.
Chris Winston
12:22 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Folks, folks, folks.... Some of the items on this comment thread have been intelligent, insightful and well-meaning... and many, less so. Please keep in mind the terms of use (they are below) and let's keep this discussion as active and engaging as we can. Concerns can be sent to me at email@example.com. Thank you.
Chris Winston
2:12 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
With unclear identities of many of our commenters, I'm pretty sure it can't be libel or slander, but your point is well-taken. We do want to respect all of our readers and commenters, however.
stanley seigler
1:48 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
REASONs TO VOTE DEM vice GOP (unless GOP candidate is lincoln incarnate)
ten years of GOP policies preceded 1929 great depression. recovery the result of DEM policies
ten years of GOP policies preceded 2008 great recession. recovery the result of DEM policies
DEMs passed social security, medicare and BO-care.
there is no proof GOP no-reg, free market, policies work.
[CLIP] since 1961, the Republicans have held the White House 28 years, the Democrats 24. In those 52 years, our economy produced 66 million private sector jobs. What's the jobs score? Republicans 24 million, Democrats 42 million!
[CLIP] 2008, losing 750,000 jobs a month...2010, job losses stopped and things began to turn around...In the last 29 months the economy has produced about 4.5 million private sector jobs.
(clips from clinton's DNC speech...bet they have been factchked)
DJI in 2008 at 6-7,000; DJI now 12-13,000
DEMs favor minorities (eg, dream act) and women's rights (eg, ledbetter act, pro choice)
GOPs want to repeat the 1929/2008 failed policies.
GOP non-reg, free market, policies will never work until greed is removed from human nature.
DEM policies favor middle class, poor folks, the disabled and the least (the 99%). GOPs favor the 1%
There are legitimate (well some are) differences of opinion re specifics...but in general the economy, middle class and the least do better under the DEMs.
Chris Winston
2:08 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Which statement by Reg are you referring to, Mr. Martin?
2:48 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
All the ones that articulate and debunk Mr. Martins nonsense.
2:49 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
All we need is a few more tax cuts cure for everything just ask the Mittster. Tax cut anyone???? Got a cold?? feeling low??? can't sleep?? Take a tax cut.
Joseph Robert
4:35 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Obama-Biden will win, because Republicans have been trying to make America suffer for four years now. Republican leaders, including PAUL RYAN, met and began planning Obama's political demise on January 20, 2009, the night of Obama's inauguration.
How twisted is that?
Ryan, Gingrich and other top Republicans have been working toward hurting America. Read about it below -- it's true:
Let's move America FORWARD! -- not backward.
stanley seigler
5:36 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
in case one didnt have time to read links...
link provided by joseph robert. for the record GOP JOB#1 team.
Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich and Frank Luntz, GOP wordsmith.
stanley seigler
7:24 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
re: Democrats protect the voting rights of dead people and illegals but the military is a different matter
FYI and in case this not a facetious conclusion...not a joke...a read of link provided would lead to a different conclusion...
[link CLIP] "I spent 25 years in the Army, and I voted absentee. And I can tell you that I only wish that when I was in uniform, I had access to the tools and resources that are available to our men and women today," said Pam Mitchell, acting director of the DOD Federal Voting Assistance Program.
[CLIP] 'Voting service members overseas can meet with a unit voting assistance officer, download materials online or give a voter assistance office a try to register or request an absentee ballot. The Federal Voting Assistance Program also has been reaching out through Twitter, Facebook and email with resources, Mitchell said.
and all know DEMs do not protect voting rights of dead or illegal folks...neither do DEMs attempt to violate voting rights of minorities (likely BO voters) with ridiculous legislation.
stanley seigler
7:50 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
happened across an old one liner...to avoid personal attacks will leave it to indivuals to decide to who and where it applies...
"Don't argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"...(unknown)
probably posted to PATCH before...
9:19 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
BS Stan. If you don't argue with the idiots then other people will have nobody to follow but the idiots. Always confront liars and morons that speak up. Always.
And if an idiot is beating you with "experience" then you aren't trying very hard. They're idiots.
stanley seigler
1:06 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
tend to agree...and that's why i continue to post on PATCH...another reason i post, it provides practice in avoiding personal attacks...but;
i like the one liner...and it shouldn't be about who's the idiot...it should be a search for the truth.
think 'beat you with experience' implies they have more experience being idiots...
8:45 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
mimi: BHO won't cooperate with the Democrats, so I doubt he cooperates with the Republicans. Obama is so obstinate that he won't do anything unless the idea originates from Pelosi, Reid or himself. Obama is uber-narcissistic and wants everything to go his way. He also won't admit mistakes and always blames others or situations for his faults. I remember another prominent leader from Austria that had lemmings following him, similar to Obama. He is not the great savior for America, au contraire.
9:12 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
This is seriously the worst post I've ever seen on patch, and that is saying something considering how awful much of the stuff you people post. On every level this post is just sh*t. Say ANYTHING that is based on fact, just once. Literally anything and it's going to be the first time. Talk about how you mowed the lawn or the line was long at the grocery store, you'll blame it on Obama. You dumbfvcks are DESTROYING the GOP and America.
Shawn Drury
12:26 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Maizenbluedoc: You're not seriously comparing the President to someone who murdered 7 million people are you?
stanley seigler
11:38 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
@Shawn Drury '...not seriously comparing the President to someone who murdered 7 million people are you?
unfortunately BO-haters are serious...their vitriol 'speaks volumes' (to use an over used phrase) to their prejudices...they give GOPs a bad name...but hope springs for the GOPers...
eg ,
Older Woman: "I have read about him. He's an Arab".
MCCAIN: "No, ma'am. No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign is all about."
sad all too few follow mccain's example...'au contraire' GOP leaders pander to the baser element...and as we know too well:
"The only thing needed for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" [burke?] and sadly good GOPs do nothing.
BTW there are NO facts in the rhetoric of hate...
Chris Winston
8:48 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Reg, I have deleted a comment that was against our terms and conditions. Please follow common courtesy in our discussions folks. Thanks.
9:14 pm on Saturday, September 8, 2012
Do your terms and conditions have any stipulations on posting facts? If so I expect to see this thread down to about 15 posts, and most of them by reg.
8:59 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Shaun Drury: No, just BHO's modus operandi in making people believe he is the answer to all humanity's problems. Obama does not like anything about America that has endured for over 200 years. Given the time, he will destroy America as most people know it. He acts like a supreme ruler, not an American president, otherwise why would he bypass congress on important issues and appoint Czars without approval of congress. The last time I checked, we had three branches of the federal government, not Obama, Reid, Pelosi, and Holder. I did not like some of the things George Bush did, but Obama is only compounding the problems.
Shawn Drury
11:17 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
MBD: OK, well it's good you haven't completely lost your mind. How you have extrapolated that he thinks of himself as a Supreme Ruler seems a bit of a stretch, but much the same was said about FDR, and the country seemed to have survived, if not thrived.
The last time I checked, the last Congress held up its end of the checks and balances system, by blocking pretty much anything meaningful the president tried to do--including the passage of a jobs bill that would have added a million people (and their taxes) to the workforce.
11:50 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
And FWIW, president Obama has had 32 recess appointments up to January of this year, president Bush had 171 in his terms.
stanley seigler
12:48 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
@Shawn Drury '... the same was said about FDR, and the country seemed to have survived, if not thrived.'
many parallels to pre 1929 policies and FDR; and pre 2008 policies and BO
america and the middle class did thrive...under DEMs and GOPs until... the great divide (1%:99%) began with RR; with a reprieve under slick willie; then culminated with W tax cuts and the great 08 recession.
opine: BO will be on rushmore...well OK probably not...but history will rate him among the great...just wish i could hear a little FRD from him...eg, 'i [FDR] welcome their hate.'
11:54 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012
OK, I acquiesce to the left. Obama is good, all Republicans and their supporters are ignorant, uninformed, and bad for America. What a country.
12:19 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
although I certainly don't like most Republican officials of late, I think the only "ignorance" of republican voters is a lack of knowledge on who their current slew of party leaders and elected officials are. They aren't actually "Republican" -- they're self-serving fools. They don't do ANYTHING for constituents, just their donors and themselves. You will always find folks like that in both political parties, of course, but for the last 20 years in particular, it seems that the GOP isn't doing anything that benefits citizens, just companies. They holler for small govt, but they only mean that when it comes to business - they pass laws that actually take away freedoms and privacy, but that let businesses do anything they want, even if its harmful to citizens. Dem voters and GOP voters agree on many, many things, and can always compromise on other issues. But this current crop of GOP isn't actually GOP .... its *ME*-O-P, because they only help themselves and no one else. And that's what's running this country into the ground.
12:31 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Because lord knows there isn't any middle ground where Obama has done a good job despite the challenges and admittedly some of his own mistakes. Where an inexplicably small and quiet section of Republicans are well informed and well intentioned.
Why is there only black and white for you? Why is rational and reasonable not part of your dialect? You compared the sitting president to Hitler? Are you insane? Seek help.
stanley seigler
5:09 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
addressing questions/statements posted here...
[question] Does anyone think the democrats objective in 2004 was to make george bush a 2 term president?...'
DEM JOB#1 was not to make him a one 'termer'...any examples showing DEM's JOB#1 was to make W a one 'termer'...
to accomplish GOP goal:
GOPs voted against original GOP ideas...eg, individual mandate was a heritage foundation (HF) idea: 'HF held the view that as a technical matter, some form [eg individual mandate] of requirement to purchase insurance was needed...'
the DEMs supported W's war...no DEM called W a liar on the house floor...DEMs did not suggest W was not an American...etcETC.
[statement] They [1%] pay 37% of all federal income taxes and this percentage has doubled in the last 30 years...'
not sure true nor that 37% tells the whole story...eg;
top bracket tax rate
1982 50% on income over $106,000
2012 35% on income over $379,150
BTW pre RR
1979-80 70% on income over $212,000
any 1%-er want to change places with a bottom 50%-er...so as to pay no income tax...
[question] How has the GOP made it their goal to increase the income of the top 1%'
painfully obvious GOP tax policies have created the 1%:99% divide...
[question] Do GOPs think they can win elections by capturing only that 1%?
it's incomprehensible how GOPs in the 99% vote (against their self interest) with the 1%...splain it to me...
Dr. John
7:56 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
"any 1%-er want to change places with a bottom 50%-er...so as to pay no income tax"
The top one percent would trade places with the bottom 50% as much as the middle 50% would trade places with the bottom 10% income earners. What kind of question is that. People who earn their money naturally want to keep it and people who do not earn money will naturally take someone elses if offered, all morality aside that is. So...take more from the people who earn it and give to the people who don't ? So continues the war on "fair" distribution of income. Heritage Fountation also saw the mistake they made and have since reversed,
much like Obama did in fighting against the "bush tax rates" but then stated that taxes should not be raised in a reccession and then endorsed keeping those rates. What position do you take on Obama supporting he Bush tax rates? Was he doing his job in expanding the mythical 1% 99% divide? He knew that the Bush rates gave a greater percentage tax rate cuts to the "middle class" than the higher tax brackets.
12:20 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I call them the Obama tax cuts now. I think he is a politician, so he either got paid off or he got duped by the "job creators." America has given our most prosperous citizens the confidence of having near historically low tax rates in exchange for them exercising their financial strength and creating jobs. Instead of holding up their end of the bargain they moved (or kept) their money in tax shelters and replaced American workers with cheaper foreign labor or technology. Hell, that is WHY 50% of Americans don't pay taxes, you don't think the tax code was written so that most of us don't pay, do you? The job creators failed us. They stole our money and our resources.
Mythical divide? Are you saying that wealth distribution inequality ISN'T at its highest in American history since the 20s?
John H
9:26 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
An analysis of a CBO study indicates that only 20% of wage earners contribute about 67% of the income tax portion of federal revenues. This along with the 50% not paying any taxes at all is in my opinion is a bad thing and not evidentiary of the priceless contribution of the job creators that I read from some conservative sources. Half of all wage earners don't even make enough to pay taxes.
On Meet the Press yesterday, Mitt Romney indicated that his economic plan involved tax reform vs. tax increases. Is he going to create an environment of unprecedented prosperity that the 50% will leapfrog a couple of tax brackets? Is he going to have adjust the brackets? He says the answer is to close loop holes that the upper income tax payer enjoys. To me this furthers the rift.
10:58 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I agree AND disagree with that info in your link, John. Yes, higher income pays a higher percentage of income taxes than the rest, that's true. That's from 2009, though, and that's after the temp tax breaks under Recovery Act. Also, the source says that 49.5 is the "percentage of people who paid no federal income tax" - PEOPLE, not wage earners. (Of course, that line's from Heritage Foundation, which hopes we won't recognize that children and seniors are people, too - they don't work, they don't have wages ... they pay no income tax.)
Dr. John
7:47 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Stats are from IRS.gov and reflect only indviduals who are reporting income. Does not reflect anyone who is a child or not in the work force. 2009 is the most recent data provided by IRS at this time. Sad but true 50% of americans don't pay federal income tax.
8:25 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
nope, duck - the source itself says that the figure was calculated as "percentage of people" - NOT percentage of income earners. Common trick of the Heritage Foundation, which has been called out on using this tactic before.
8:50 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
And again, do you believe that the 50% that don't pay taxes is because the tax code was written that way or because the job creators failed to live up to their end of the deal where America extended their near record low tax break? If over a decade of near record low tax rates aren't enough, what is? They're extorting America, holding their promised jobs hostage until we give them... everything?
stanley seigler
8:52 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@Dr. John
...true 50% of americans don't pay federal income tax...
and what is the point...assume they followed same IRS rules/regs as mitt and other 1%-ers...they came up with a 0% rate and mitt came up with a 15% rate.
is anyone saying the rules should be changed for the 50% (whatever) and not for the 1%...
John H
9:51 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
To Reg; Here's the link from the CBO. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2Wzr4_cemD5OTJKbWlpX01SeVU/edit?pli=1
As I read a little of the supporting document, I would revise the reported 49.5% of *people* paying no taxes at all. The report indicated that the lowest quintile (assuming one fifth equal 20%) of *household*incomes pays 0.3%. This I found in the summary on page 4. See the notes on the Definition page for an explanation of a household, before tax income, and taxes as the chart compares the two latter.
Does the 49.5% report include all members of those households? Stated another way, does the lowest 20% of taxpaying households contain half the population of the US? I think something is wrong with the 49.5% number or the two are comparing apples to oranges.
Data is only available thru 2009. Supplemental reports indicate that the gap is widening in 2010 and 2011. Also found on page 4.
John H
9:52 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
The main point I am making the fact that so many households are too poor to pay taxes or contribute significantly extending to the 2nd and middle quintiles.
My assessment is Romney's plan is to heap more on the red bar on the highest quintile of households while granting reprieve on capital gains vs. Obama's plan to return to 1990's taxation rates starting at $250,000.00 to distribute the tax burden on a portion of households in the other quintiles maybe just the 4th. Roberton Williams, a senior fellow at the Urban Institute-Brookings Institution Tax Policy Center indicates that a single person household would make the top 20 at a $74,000 per year salary, $104,000 for a two person, and $148,000 for a four person?? Is this where child labor becomes an issue? (sarcasm).
Shawn Drury
9:03 pm on Sunday, September 9, 2012
Dr. John you disappoint me. Citing the Heritage Foundation and Fox News? I've come to expect a little better from you.
The Heritage Foundation "reversed" its view on National Health Care in 1993 when Clinton tried to pass it, which would have caused quite a bit of embarrassment to the Foundation had he succeeded.
The idea that the Heritage Foundation changed its view because of ideology rather than politics is at best a stretch.
12:34 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Little surprise that nothing gets done in Washington. Mention a particular news medium (or allow someone to connect you with a particular medium) and immediately, you become the scourge of the planet. One must be for or against ANYTHING, there is NO compromise or middle ground. The question I always ask, "If the do-nothing politicians in Washington are so great, why do they always seem to get elected?" Our government has become so corrupt, I have little faith that anyone can fix it. It is a sad commentary, but that is the way it appears.
12:49 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Our government has become so corrupt, I have little faith that anyone can fix it.
I agree on the first part, I'm more optimistic on the second. I think citizen groups like Occupy and the remnants of the Tea Party will continue to raise awareness of the issues and America will respond.
You do understand that the most corrupting influences in politics are championed by the GOP, right? Citizens United, big business (agri, pharma, oil) and their lobbying. I'm not saying the Democrats aren't culpable, but at least they act like they're against them.
Energy Guy
1:31 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
We still need to try. However in 2012 choices are a lot clearer.
stanley seigler
9:44 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
re: 'What kind of question is that'
the kind that fosters tax fairness...oh/and, what kind of logic and humanity is taxing po folk who cant afford it vice rich folks who wont miss it...
some (most) GOPs (grover's boys) are clueless.
rich GOPs would not miss an additional 1% (whatever)...po folks might have to cut back on necessities...health care, meds, groceries, gas, etc...or;
if they paid tax they may never be able to take their kids to the beach and get a hot dog...the clueless should read 'Nickel and Dimed'...it may help the norquist's gang become less clueless, ie, provide insight to lives of those who live (survive) from pay check to pay check...(but doubt if they care)
GOPers complain the 50% (whatever) pay no income tax; so question still ask would any of the greedy complainers change places with 50% who pay no tax...
re: Heritage Foundation also saw the mistake they made and have since reversed
ie, they were for it before they opposed it...more pandering to the far right...anyhow...
opine: so they forgot how greedy the 1% is...actually it was not a mistake...the mistake was not advocating for single payer (universal health care) and;
we will have universal health care...sad we have to go through this bs to get there.
ditto Shawn Drury's post...
stanley seigler
10:06 am on Monday, September 10, 2012
re: much like Obama did in fighting against the "bush tax rates"
you mistate BO's position, ignore context, and make up 'your' facts...
BTW the 1%:99% is not mythical...it's fact...google charts.
Dr. John
10:06 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
You will notice in my post discussing the 1%/99% that I did not bring political party into it. You however make the leap to GOP being the 1%. Where did the rich democrats go? Well if your a good liberal you give rich liberals a pass, and if your a rich liberal all you have to do is mouth liberal policies and you immunize yourself from political scrutiny. So, are they immune, despite the fact that your opinion is that their level of achievement is bad? Are we also to believe that by extending the Bush tax rates that Obama was strengthening his position by extending them? How am I taking him out of context when I am only explaining that he spoke out against the rates up to the point where he stated it was a good idea to extend them. Was this a democratic "dog whistle tactic" that he thought would help illustrate and defend his position. Did extending the tax cuts give his supporters a better context? You are going through quite a bit of contortions here in his defense. Heritage took the idea of a self reliant principle for everyone to buy health insurance. But quickly realized that the policies in play were for everyone who could afford would buy it plus pay extra for those who could not or would not pay for insurance. This defeated the ideological principle of self reliance. Once they saw the mandate would only serve to subsidize others they reversed. They saw the perverted way self reliance for some was being used to discourage it in others.
stanley seigler
1:47 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
@Dr. John
again you present false premises...than argue, ad nauseam, against your false premise...
indeed liberals are in the 1%...eg, buffett, gates, soros, ...what you ignore and contort is the liberal 1% oppose GOP tax policies that created the divide...and they support the individual mandate...
re heritage foundation, etal...you really are reaching beyond the pale to justify your position and defend the greedy GOPs...ie;
defend the no-reg, failed, free market, philosophy of friedman and the atheist rand...RR's voodoo, trickle down (well UP), economics...sigh...
sorry you mis-understand BO's position on taxes and dont understand context...
Wilbur Freewright
2:31 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
VETERANS be aware that Ryan has cut VA benefits and the Senate has voted it through. Congressional District #1 Republican Candidate Randy Altschuler and a few other Republican candidates around the nation are needed to pass this bill in the House in the next session. They only need a hand full of seats to get it done. Republican candidates, like Altschuler, are the key link. Read the NY Times today. Take your time, it's a bit complicated, which is what Romney and Ryan hoped for, so us veterans wouldn't be able to understand it. It comes down to one thing and one thing only: Either Romney and Ryan tell us veterans "There are NO CUTS in the Ryan Budget to VA benefits" or they're lying to us. The Times and Congressional Budget Office make it clear...HUGE CUTS have been made. Read the article: http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/edsall-the-ryan-sinkhole/?nl=opinion&emc=edit_ty_20120910
This is a game changer for this Republican. My family has many veterans and cutting their benefits is like the enemy cutting their throats. I never thought the Republicans would do this to us, but they have. It's already been voted upon in the Senate, but thanks to Democrats, it was stopped in the House. Read the Times and be careful voting for Republicans...they do not support veterans like they say they do and the proof is in their work in 2012.
Jonathan Allen
7:17 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Wilbur, thanks for the contribution, but I think you have your houses of Congress confused. The Republican controlled House of Representatives passed the Paul Ryan budget plan, but the Senate, led by Democrats, voted it down.
Interesting article that you linked to though, I was unaware of the arcane budgetary rules in play, and that piece lays it all out nicely. I see that the writer Thomas Edsall is a journalism professor at Columbia University, so I'm more apt to give what he has to say some credence than I would be a similar post from DailyKos or TPM, or something from a site biased in the other direction. Thanks for the contribution.
Energy Guy
7:47 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I do not believe there actually was a vote in the Senate at all. Harry Reid has a tendency to throw stuff in the waste basket without any vote. The President did present a budget to the Senate. Again since NO Democrat Senator would have voted yes in the waste basket again.
Jonathan Allen
9:13 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Energy Guy, actually both of those budgets got votes in the Senate, in fact the 97-0 defeat of the budget Obama proposed was a much cherished Republican talking point for a while, and I'm sure if you listen for it you'll hear it again before Election Day. The Senate vote on Ryan's budget was a bit closer, but it was still defeated 57-40, note that four of the 45 Republican Senators voted with the Democrats in defeating the Ryan Budget.
(both votes in the same story) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/paul-ryan-budget-medicare-senate-vote_n_867126.html
Also the Senate is set up so that the party with the majority of the seats gets to call the shots, which includes what bills reach the floor for a vote. Schoolhouse Rock had a great segment "I'm Just a Bill" that explained how the legislative process works and the various places where a bill can be killed before it ever reaches the floor for a vote. Essentially, no matter who controls the Senate agenda there will be lots of legislative proposals finding their way into the waste basket every two years. There are plenty of legitimate issues on which to criticize Harry Reid, the inner workings of a legislative body set up approximately 150 years before the man was born is not one of them.
/for everyone that's humming the "I'm Just a Bill" song now, here's the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0
Dr. John
10:11 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
So Ryan's budget received a 55% greater percent of votes for his budget than Obama did for his, what are we to think of that?
Energy Guy
12:00 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So I can conclude that it is the Democrats that are at fault for there being no budget.
Jonathan Allen
12:08 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Energy Guy, you can blame whoever you like. I think however if you hold one party or the other sacrosanct you are missing out on a lot of nuance. Partisan politics have degenerated to the point where one side marches in nearly lock-step unison to oppose anything and everything proposed by the other side (both parties have been guilty of this - you can argue to what degree either is more or less culpable, but neither is innocent), and it has deteriorated to the point where without 60 Senate votes nothing (other than "budget reconciliation" bills) passes. In the current Congress, with the exception of the few "moderate" Senate Republicans, the GOP has steadfastly refused to compromise on anything, which is just as responsible for the lack of a budget as anything Harry Reid has done. Regardless of the talking points Pres. Obama is a center-left moderate. A Socialist would not have worked so hard to pass a healthcare bill that funneled millions of new customers to private insurance companies (originally the individual health insurance mandate was an idea created and promoted by the Heritage Foundation), he would have worked for a single-payer nationalized healthcare system. I point this out only to illustrate the perception I have from following political news that the aversion to compromise, which I contend is the major reason we don't have a budget, is coming more from the Republicans than from the Democrats at this time. However there is plenty of blame for both sides.
8:49 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Actually Dr. John the ONLY reason that Obama's budget did not pass is because the REPUBLICAN house added so much poison to it to ensure it wouldn't pass so they could fool people like you with smoke and mirrors. Why don't you take a looksy at the Budget presented to the house and what amendments were attached to it. I doubt you will admit you are wrong, but guess what Dr. John YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN. It must really suck to be so uninformed as so gullible to propaganda.
Dr. John
10:12 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Got it,
So the senate did not muster a single vote for Obama's budget because of "republican poison" but Ryan's budget received 40 votes for not having republican poison.
stanley seigler
12:53 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
would be interesting to have all the BUDGET facts...eg,
'The White House argued the resolution offered by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) was different from Obama's budget...
'The White House faced harsh criticism from conservatives and liberals after the vote on the budget, which was put forth by Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)...A similar bill by Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC) failed 414-0 in the House'
wish it were as simple as blame BO...anyone have an explanation other than blame BO or GOPs...ie, how was session's resolution involved...
it's all above my pay grade...
Energy Guy
6:24 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #1
Amonix Solar: – manufacturing plant in North Las Vegas, subsidized by more than $20 million in federal tax credits and grants given by Obama Administration, has closed its 214,000 square foot facility a year after it opened.
Energy Guy
6:25 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #2
Solar Trust of America: - Filed Bankruptcy in Oakland, CA, April 3, 2012 – On April 2, 2012
Energy Guy
6:25 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #3
Bright Source: - Bright Source warned Obama's Energy Department officials in March 2011 that delays in approving a $1.6 billion U.S. loan guarantee would embarrass the White House and force the solar-energy company to close. Lost Billions of dollars but Getting More Money To Keep Trying. Can you say, "This isnt working?"http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20120627-714633.html
Energy Guy
6:26 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #4
Solyndra: - Obama gave Solyndra $500,000,000 in taxpayer money and Solyndra shut its doors and laid off 1100 workers in August 2011 After Billions in Losses due to failure to make a solar product that works!
Energy Guy
6:26 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #5
LSP Energy: - LSPEnergy LP filed bankruptcy protection and a sale of its assets in Feb 2012
Energy Guy
6:27 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #6
Energy Conversion Devices: – On February 14, 2012 Energy Conversion Devices, Inc. and its subsidiaries filed for bankruptcy
Energy Guy
6:27 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #7
Abound Solar: - Abound Solar received a $400 million loan guarantee from Barack Obama announced in June, 2012 that it would file for bankruptcy
Energy Guy
6:28 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #8
SunPower: – SunPower stopped producing solar cells last year at near bankruptcy restructured only with help of, get this, oil giant TOTAL who owns 60% stake. Irony! Still struggling…
Energy Guy
6:28 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #9
Beacon Power: – Beacon Power Corp filed for bankruptcy Oct 2011 just a year after Obama approved $43 million loan Government loan guarantee
Energy Guy
6:29 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #10
Ecotality: - ECOtality, a San Francisco green-tech company that never earned any money on the verge of bankruptcy after receiving roughly $115 million in two loan guarantees from Obama
Energy Guy
6:29 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #11
A123 Solar: -A123 received $279 million from taxpayers thanks to President Obama's Department of Energy loan guarantees and after Solyndra bankruptcy is getting another $500M from Obama and it has lost $400M
Energy Guy
6:30 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #12
UniSolar: - Uni-Solar filed for Ch 11 bankruptcy in June 20 this year laid off hundreds got more Obama money still failing but still in business
Energy Guy
6:30 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #13
Azure Dynamics: - Azure Dynamics files for bankruptcy in June ten millions in Obama "Stimulus"
Energy Guy
6:30 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #14
Evergreen Solar: - Evergreen Solar received $527 Million in Taxpayer money from Obama filed bankruptcy
Energy Guy
6:31 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama Energy Blunder #15
Ener1: received more than $100 million in government funding from the Obama administration filed for bankruptcy January 2012
7:10 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
You should check your own sources before posting them as "Obama Energy Blunders", Energy Guy. And should also learn what Chapter 11 is, too - for example:
Amonix Solar - your source says "Amonix received $6 million in federal tax credits for the North Las Vegas plant and a $15.6 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy in 2007 for research and development." Obama took office when? Oh, yeah - 2009
Solar Trust - did Chapter 11, and because its foreign majority owner filed bankruptcy in its country; as your source says - "filed for bankruptcy protection after its majority owner began insolvency proceedings in Germany." But you blame Obama.
Bright Source: your source says it was part of the Chapter 11 liquidation of Solar Trust (see above) ... and Obama had what to do with that? Your source doesn't verify one word of your claim, or even mention it.
LSP Energy - been around since '96; filed Ch. 11 because one of its three generators broke, and it needed to liquidate to fund replacement. Your source says it had $214.85 million in debt; this one (http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/fb85347ff9484d01bb2233f656c13882/MS--LSP-Energy-Bankruptcy) says it just sold for $286 million. that's 33.1% profit. And you say Obama has "fault" in this, though, which is yet another one of your cites that has nothing to do with fed gov period, let alone Obama
7:57 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Energy Conversion Devices - been losing money consecutively since 2007 - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204795304577222991181931050.html - but you blame Obama.
Abound Solar - it received $400 million in 2010 - paid back all but $70 million in less than two years. Has liquid capital of $136.1 million, so that's ....IN-THE-CLEAR! http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2012/09/11/bankrupt-abound-solars-equipment-to.html?page=all But you say Obama's grant (which was done by DoE, not Obama) is a loss???
Sun Power - has since regained (by 24.2%, in fact)....and not once missed on paying its loan.
Beacon - still owed 39.1 mil at time of liquidation, had liquid assets over $72 mil .... LOAN PAID http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-10-31/beacon-power-backed-by-u-s-loan-guarantees-files-bankruptcy.html
ECOtality - the new company took in $115 mil in DoE loans, alright; and quickly got contracts that produced $230 mil http://www.ecotality.com/featured/ev-project/ - now has a new contract with VW, too
A123 - your source lists a drop in its stock value; 10 days later, it was up 20% http://www.streetinsider.com/Insiders+Blog/A123+Systems+(AONE)+Rips+Higher+Following+New+Energy+Storage+System+Contract/7593705.html filed for bankruptcy? nope
UniSolar - your source says it got money when it opened in 2006 ... doesn't mention Obama or DoE - and it's losing to China http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2012/06/uni-solar-energy-economy-greenville-biello
8:07 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Azure - your source says it's a Canadian company (tip: Canada uses the dollar as its currency, too) - IT RECEIVED NO FUNDS FROM US DoE
Evergreen - RECEIVED NO FUNDS FROM US DoE - please cite some source for this "$527 million from Obama" claim, because your own source doesn't say that.
Ener1 - you claim it received "more than a $100 million" - but your source says the company only got $55 million. And let's go over what Chapter 11 is again - payment arrangements for full debt without liquidation. It's not Chapter 7 (which you are hoping everyone else will assume).
8:21 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
In general, there are two reasons for the recent difficulties in solar and non-fossil fuels: corporate resistance and foreign competition. On corporate resistance, see Who Killed the Electric Car - http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/ Motor companies and oil companies have driven that one into the toilet; to hell with consumers, they say. On foreign competition, Bush policy on trade with China came close to burying solar power here - US companies send the materials to China, let them build the final products, then send them back to sell here. Seriously hurting that development here in the U.S. One of your own sources cites company officials blaming GOP trade policy with China for their near downfalls.
And one crucial piece of advice: consider your primary source on all of these. "Divided States" is a scam site - doesn't even list who owns/operates it. (The owner is one Jonathan Cooper with office on 5th Ave in NYC, though.....and the company he pays to host that site is Canadian! How hypocritical of him, dontcha think?)
8:58 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Well said stan and reg regarding him needing to simply post the one link. Why the deceptive tactics Energy Guy?
Did you know in many states you can get solar power at a fixed monthly rate far lower than you pay a legacy power provider? Sort of shoots the whole "solar industry which has NEVER proven to produce a single working product. Like Socialism, no evidence ot works" regressive talking point from your biased source right in the face.
stanley seigler
8:20 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
@Energy Guy
re: Source. http://www.dividedstates.com/list-of-failed-obama-green-energy-solar-companies/
you cudda saved some ink by just posting the above source...but guess you were thinking, 'if i throw enough stuff at the wall some will stick...'
some prespective
'It is said that up to 50% of businesses fail within five years of inception. http://www.businesspundit.com/the-25-worst-business-failures-in-history/
not sure one can/should call all energy company failures 'BO's blunders'...BTW
anyone know what tax breaks for big oil cost, ie, adds to the deficit...bet cost of so called 'BO blunders' pale by comparison to what might be called 'GOP blunders'...also,
what do oil spills, due to lax regulations, cost the economy/envirorement...can these be called GOP blunders...also/BTW/and;
can 1929 and 2008 be called GOP blunders...seems 'BO blunders' become paler and paler by comparision.
Energy Guy
11:39 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Valence Technology, Battery Maker, Files Bankruptcy
"Founded in 1989, Valence develops lithium iron magnesium phosphate rechargeable batteries, according to its website. Its products are used in hybrid and electric vehicles, as well as hybrid boats and Segway personal transporters."
11:53 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Yet another sample from Energy Guy that has absolutely nothing to do with the president or the DoE funds
stanley seigler
3:59 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
'...absolutely nothing to do with the president or the DoE funds'
SOP for some PATCH posters...
irrelavent cherry picking aside...it is difficult to evaluate 'DOE loan program'...the following CLIP seems reasonable:
[CLIP] An independent review of the DOE loan program [enguy's bo blunders], headed by former Treasury official Herb Allison, also "failed to turn up the waste and incompetence that critics said riddled the programs," the Los Angeles Times noted, though it did call for better oversight after companies are awarded contracts. The review also concluded the program could lose as much as $2.7 billion on loans to green-energy companies, but that was actually less than the $10 billion anticipated by Congress...
The Allison report was criticized by some Republicans as incomplete, particularly since the panel did not evaluate Solyndra [so add $500M to $2.7B] as part of its review. [end clip] http://factcheck.org/2012/06/romneys-solar-flareout/
stanley seigler
10:14 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
re: 'Yet another sample [of misc bankuptcies]'
just wondering if people know the difference between bankruptcies in general and the relative few with DOEn loans...
if they know the difference, why do they purposely mislead...
never mind i know...
Gramps Pupany
12:01 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Tea Party and GOP corruption starts with Romney & Ryan and lies they told us about who they'll serve and who they won't. Lies of "omission", like hidden budget cuts, are equal to lies of "commission", like telling the rich one thing and the rest of America another.
They're up to his necks in The Lying Game. What they say is all part of the larger GOP strategy. Believe me, Ryan "takes direction" in order to "stay on" the Republican message. He must "sing the GOP song" to be a GOP candidate.
All across the nation, millionaires are backing these liars. They want full control in order to create the final divide between rich and poor. "Us and them".
Their misjudgment? A lot of that 47% they despise is part of working America; students working their way through college, single moms restarting their lives with their first job since high school and truly poor mothers, working while the kids are at school, just to buy fuel oil for this winter and food for the day.
These are proud Americans. Romney has just stolen their pride, their will power and more...their dignity.
Men like Romney, Ryan and Republican candidates for Congress have no place in the seats of government (at any level) making decisions for "all Americans". They only have experience with the "jet set" and their "country club" members. That's okay, if you're running for Prom Queen, but the responsibilities here are far reaching and their vision does not include all Americans, as we've just found out.
martin, bob
3:20 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
Poll Results
Who do you think will win the 2012 U.S. presidential election?
Mitt Romney 282 (50%)
Barack Obama 267 (48%)
3:31 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
That should terrify the GOP that these are the results from SC.
3:48 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
um, bob? This is not a scientific poll. This is a reader poll from one concentrated region, and the demographics of which are not proportional to the demographics of registered voters. Thus, this poll you cite is in no way reflective on the upcoming election.
stanley seigler
8:37 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
in SC:
Mitt Romney 282 (50%); Barack Obama 267 (48%
this should terrify the GOP that these are the results from SC [josch]
if jim crow voterID laws are ruled unconstitutional...BO will win SC...and;
renew faith in my beloved SC...and my 'kingdom by the sea'...summerville.
Dr. John
12:00 am on Thursday, September 20, 2012
I rarely get involved in "party politics". That is GOP/DEM battles . I try to stay based on ideology, but I agree with you. It is about time we get the white southern democrat Jim Crow laws off of the books for good
Dr. John
6:39 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
I bet a lot of that 47% are "bitter clingers" or maybe even catholics who feel like their religious freedom was trampled on recently. Just remember, the question was who do you think will win, not who are you voting for.
7:33 pm on Wednesday, September 19, 2012
True enough. It's too bad they vote not for whom would be best for their and their countries interest, but who they've been convinced by outright lies and propaganda to be afraid of. I wish someone in the GOP would demand a stop to the lies; the ones that stand idly by are now complicit in America truly having only one rational choice.
Lucky me, I get to burn my vote on Gary Johnson.
2:44 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Personally i think a president that can't even make a public speech with out screwing it up shouldn't be reelected. Yeah he is trying to reform are healthcare by making everyone that don't accept his healthcare pay a fine so we have to accept his decision or get penalized. When he was elected he stopped drilling in the gulf but when reelection is up drill drill drill. He just preaches what he wants the public to hear not what he is going to give us. Which is basically what anyone that is trying to get elected does. But what has obama really done for the country. Just because bin laden was killed it wasn't because of him he was just in office don't give him credit for it we need change period.
11:02 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
what, exactly, was this public speech you refer to, brian? And as for this "fine" - you mean how no one can join a private insurance group immediately before a needed surgery, then drop out right after, meaning everyone else pays for that coverage? You also don't know what you're talking about on offshore drilling - he's reminded companies of offshore opportunities since late 2009, and without any modifications to existing restrictions. And who gave the orders on bin laden, brian? Shoot, Bush called it off and said it wasn't a goal - now, the terrorist is out. You're a clear example of a troll; you pursue old stories to post last minute comments that are all false.
11:31 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012
Trolls post things that are at the very least provocative. I'm afraid brian isn't a troll, just a partisan liar.


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Aleister Crowley is known to have conjured up this intriguing quip: The method of science, the aim of religion.
Wouldn't that be something? The application of the scientific method, constantly renewing and reviewing your accepted knowledge, coupled with the reverence and grace that comes with religions...my extremities tingle and twitch at the possibilities for humankind! Anyway, this post is a lobby/religion hybrid, i could have gone either way. A lot of our discussion across the board has considered this very question. We have two distinct camps in human thought, that of science and that of religion. Who is right? Who is wrong? Wouldn't it be the cats pajamas if they were BOTH right and wrong at the same time? (IMG:http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7955846.stm Question: What do you get if you divide science by God? (one) Answer: "Being" Note: he isn't the first physicist to get all philosophizer with us... (from the link) QUOTE A prize-winning quantum physicist says a spiritual reality is veiled from us, and science offers a glimpse behind that veil. So how do scientists investigating the fundamental nature of the universe assess any role of God, asks Mark Vernon.
The Templeton Prize, awarded for contributions to "affirming life's spiritual dimension", has been won by French physicist Bernard d'Espagnat, who has worked on quantum physics with some of the most famous names in modern science. Quantum physics is a hugely successful theory: the predictions it makes about the behaviour of subatomic particles are extraordinarily accurate. And yet, it raises profound puzzles about reality that remain as yet to be understood. WHAT IS QUANTUM PHYSICS? Originated in work conducted by Max Planck and Albert Einstein at start of 20th Century They discovered that light comes in discrete packets, or quanta, which we call photons The Heisenberg Uncertainty principle says certain features of subatomic particles like momentum and position cannot be known precisely at the same time Gaps remain, like attempts to find the 'God Particle' that scientists hope to spot in the Large Hadron Collider. It is required to give other particles mass The bizarre nature of quantum physics has attracted some speculations that are wacky but the theory suggests to some serious scientists that reality, at its most basic, is perfectly compatible with what might be called a spiritual view of things. Some suggest that observers play a key part in determining the nature of things. Legendary physicist John Wheeler said the cosmos "has not really happened, it is not a phenomenon, until it has been observed to happen." D'Espagnat worked with Wheeler, though he himself reckons quantum theory suggests something different. For him, quantum physics shows us that reality is ultimately "veiled" from us. The equations and predictions of the science, super-accurate though they are, offer us only a glimpse behind that veil. Moreover, that hidden reality is, in some sense, divine. Along with some philosophers, he has called it "Being". In an effort to seek the answers to the "meaning of physics", I spoke to five leading scientists. 1. THE ATHEIST Nobel-prize winning physicist Steven Weinberg is well-known as an atheist. For him, physics reflects the "chilling impersonality" of the universe. He would be thinking here of, say, the vast tracts of empty space, billions of light years across, that mock human meaning. He says: "The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it seems pointless." So for Weinberg, the notion that there might be an overlap between science and spirituality is entirely mistaken. 2. THE SCEPTIC The Astronomer Royal and President of the Royal Society, Martin Rees, shows a distinct reserve when speculating about what physics might mean, whether that be pointlessness or meaningfulness. He has "no strong opinions" on the interpretation of quantum theory: only time will tell whether the theory becomes better understood. "The implications of cosmology for these realms of thought may be profound, but diffidence prevents me from venturing into them," he has written. In short, it is good to be humble in the face of the mysteries that physics throws up. 3. THE PLATONIST Oxford physicist Roger Penrose differs again. He believes that mathematics suggests there is a world beyond the immediate, material one. Spider in moonlight Can science explain all of life's meaning? Ask yourself this question: would one plus one equal two even if I didn't think it? The answer is yes. Would it equal two even if no-one thought it? Again, presumably, yes. Would it equal two even if the universe didn't exist? That is more tricky to contemplate, but again, there are good grounds for a positive response. Penrose, therefore, argues that there is what can be called a Platonic world beyond the material world that "contains" mathematics and other abstractions. 4. THE BELIEVER John Polkinghorne worked on quantum physics in the first part of his career, but then took up a different line of work: he was ordained an Anglican priest. For him, science and religion are entirely compatible. The ordered universe science reveals is only what you'd expect if it was made by an orderly God. However, the two disciplines are different. He calls them "intellectual cousins". "Physics is showing the world to be both more supple and subtle, but you need to be careful," he says. If you want to understand the meaning of things you have to go beyond science, and the religious direction is, he argues, the best. 5. THE PANTHEIST Brian Swimme is a cosmologist, and with the theologian Thomas Berry, wrote a book called The Universe Story: From the Primordial Flaring Forth to the Ecozoic Era. It is avidly read by individuals in New Age and ecological circles, and tells the scientific story of the universe, from the Big Bang to the emergence of human consciousness, but does so as a new sacred myth. Swimme believes that "the universe is attempting to be felt", which makes him a pantheist, someone who believes the cosmos in its entirety can be called God. Mark Vernon is author of After Atheism: Science, Religion and the Meaning of Life |
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You will NOT see [ science + god ] Would wiser minds see that as an erroneous assumption bordering on bigotted or ignorant foolishness? Here's why they could. The Creator is all that moves in Creation. The Creator is a sentient being which communicates via dreams and visions (see Numbers 12:6) and everyone dreams. Einstein used his dreams to develop his Unified Field Theory and his Theory of Relativity. Tesla and Edison used dreams and visions for their science based inventions. Darwin used his dreams to discover evolution. Mendeleyev used his dreams to create the Periodic Table of Elements. The benzine ring was a discovery from dreams.... and countless other scientific discoveries and Nobel Prize winners discoveries used a Creator provided connection, their dreams and visions. So science is clearly linked to God and the means God communicates to us. Just because religion's addled or ignorant leaders know little or nothing about the Creator or the means of communication provided to everyone does not provide you an excuse to disbelieve when far more brilliant (and lesser) minds found and used that connection. Knowledge about their successes are as well or better known in scientific circles as scriptures. How did you miss that? |
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Glen Ellyn Police Arrest Man Charged in October Wheaton Taser Incident
Police reports confirm that Christopher Shukin was arrested in Glen Ellyn on Nov. 7. He was arrested in Wheaton on Oct. 24 after officers used a Taser on him.
A Glen Ellyn man arrested in late October in an incident requiring Wheaton police to use a Taser to subdue him, was arrested in Glen Ellyn last week.
Glen Ellyn police reports confirm that Christopher Shukin, 22, of the 400 block of Hill Avenue, was arrested at 2:34 a.m. Nov. 7 at the intersection of Main Street and Hill Avenue.
Shukin was charged with public indecency, according to police reports.
On Oct. 24, Shukin was arrested in Wheaton after police responded to a report of a man without pants walking around an apartment complex at around 10:20 p.m. in the 1600 block of South Briarcliffe Boulevard, Patch reported.
In that incident, Shukin tried to run away and when he clenched his fists and took aggressive steps toward the officers, they used the Taser on him, Wheaton police said.
In addition to the Wheaton arrest, Shukin had been arrested days earlier in Glen Ellyn. Officials had confirmed that at 4 p.m. Oct. 21 Shukin was arrested in the 200 block of Regent Street. He was charged with criminal trespass to a residence and released on $1,000 bail.


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Dear Gossips,
Between Cannes and Brange and Beyonce and Robsten and the Afflecks and the Billboard Music Awards, it was a relentless weekend. Here's how I see it -- on that list, Billboard is the lowest priority, right? Check LifeStyle through the day for red carpet photos and we'll keep the main gossip page dedicated to the headliners.
As for Justin Bieber getting booed last night -- fine, the kid is a punk, and while it may have been satisfying for some to see his bottom lip trembling, does the enjoyment hold up when you consider that Chris Brown wasn't booed AT ALL and in fact received rapturous applause instead, particularly from women?
I've never wanted to but here's more reason why it would suck to be up so close at this kind of award show:
Miguel, by the way, apologised to the girl afterwards and did an interview with her. Not sure if it'll be enough to avoid a lawsuit. Needless to say, Miguel's sh-tty long jump resulted immediately in a few hilarious memes. So far, this one is my favourite.
Yours in gossip,
Smutty Tingles
It's been 4,000 words and 15 posts -- so I'm taking my long weekend back! It's a holiday here in Canada. The blog will return at regular time and on regular schedule tomorrow. Besides, I'm waiting on more sources re: Robsten anyway. Just sit with this for now: her team has been working it so that she doesn't get totally dumped on by pro-Pattinson reporting.
This poor girl! I can't watch, I can't watch, I can't watch... (Dlisted)
OMG look what Mila Kunis wore to the Billboard Awards back in 2000 (Too Fab)
You know, by Ke$ha's standards, this was actually really tame (The Superficial)
Jennifer Lawrence's naked blue Mystique body (Just Jared)
Olivia Munn in a skin coloured bikini (Hollywood Tuna)
The Beckhams cried, and H7 stuck her fingers in her mouth (Pop Sugar)
I said to Sasha last night, only way more crass -- these two share a bed and she wondered what it smelled like (Cele|bitchy)
Ryan Gosling put movies down his pants (Socialite Life)
Good God, where do they find these dresses? (Celeb Dirty Laundry)
Isn't this the Mother of the Year, really? (I'm Not Obsessed)
The Wales Brothers, together again!
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Oscar Isaac & Inside Llewyn Davis
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Inside Llewyn Davis is considered, so far, the best film at Cannes. The critics were delighted. The reviews have been really, really, really strong. And Justin Timberlake is not the lead, despite the coverage that would indicate otherwise. The lead is the current #1 on my Five List, Oscar Isaac. Full Story
Open mouth Slum Lovers
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Aural Assault
Mad Men Season 6 Episode 8 recap That was the weirdest, most uncomfortable part for me. The weird, up-and-down in-and-out audio as the hallucinations began. I never feel like there's any way to "ignore" a symptom like that and so that's when it began to go bad for me. Of course, it's not like there was really ever any "good". Full Story
Who's the star of this movie?
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If you didn't know, if you had no idea about Inside Llewyn Davis, looking at these photos, who would you think was the star of the movie? Justin Timberlake, right? Oscar Isaac is the star of Inside Llewyn Davis. Justin Timberlake, it's been joked Full Story
Kisses for everyone
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It was family weekend in Boston for Gisele Bundchen and Tom Brady. They were both at his sister's graduation. And then they went to the park where there were kisses for everyone -- Tom, Gisele, the babies, the dog. Vivian looks a lot like her brother Benjamin, non? I could never swing from a tree while slinging a baby. Full Story
Keanu in Cannes
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Beysus cracks
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I don't have to tell you how rare these are. And they were exclusive and expensive. Which is why I'm working them off on a long weekend in Canada. Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin were photographed together in London the other day. Smiling. And not running away. Well, not initially. Full Story
Taylor, Selena, and Justin Bieber
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God of Tits and Wine
Game Of Thrones Season 3 Episode 8 recap You know you've really gotten into a show when you start to be endlessly frustrated with the characters who just won't behave the way you need them to. This week had any number of irritants as well as the allegedly "proper" behavior of Joffrey acting like the king dick he is, so I got more than my fair share of screaming at the screen. Full Story
The Afflecks & the SNL goodbyes
You know who Jennifer Garner is? Jennifer Garner is Tracy Flick, with a lot more game, and she's happy to play it in the background. Come on. Garner has delivered in the last 6 months like no one else, non? And to all her constituents. From Oscar voters to the MiniVan Majority, in mom jeans and baseball caps, at the school track meet and on the awards circuit, Jennifer Garner is the one who's winning. Full Story


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It seems like everyone in Hollywood loves to smoke on some kush to relieve their daily stresses, and Miley Cyrus might be the next star to join in!
Snoop Dogg "Heaven" (NEW MUSIC)
In the wake of No Limit affiliate Mr. Magic's death, Snoop Dogg dedicates an entire tribute track to all of his fallen homies, including Nate Dogg and Tupac.
HIP HOP HOORAY! Snoop Dogg And Suge Knight Squash Beef And Reunite! (PHOTO)
The two former Death Row members were spotted at a party together at AV night club in Los Angeles Thursday night, and Snoop was all smiles.
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Snoop Lion Chronicles His Career Through Outfits With Terry Richardson & Vice Magazine (PHOTOS)
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Snoop Dogg Through The Ages For Vice Mag (PHOTOS)
RISE AND GRIND! MORNING MUSIC NEWS: Snoop Lion Drops "Here Comes The King,"AND MORE!
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Naturally, weed and his son came up as a topic. When speaking about the pictures, Snoop kinda just shrugged them off.
Snoop Dogg & Son Cordell Broadus Get High As A Kite ... TOGETHER! (PHOTOS)
In these photos, he can be seen enjoying the highs and lows of his favorite girl Mary Jane with his pops, grandpops, and other family members. The family that smokes together, stays together.
Is Nipsey Hussle The Second Coming Of Snoop Dogg?
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It didn't take much for former and current Katatonia members Fredrik Norrman and Jonas Renkse to capture a fair share of attention back in 1997 when they released the very sturdy October Tide debut, Rain Without End, yet the ensuing follow-up Grey Dawn was a far less intriguing effort that failed to live up to the standards set by its predecessor. Now, ten years later, and with Renkse having since left the ranks, Norrman returns with a slew of new compatriots, solidifying the cliché of the third time being a charm with the revitalized A Thin Shell. Attaining nearly the same level of quality as the debut, this seven-track doom/death metal trek through downtrodden atmosphere takes a chance or two, and it results in a very current and invigorating collection of songs.
Exhibiting a mastery of mood and an incredible sense of flow throughout its forty-two minute running length, October Tide taps back into a type of depressive vibe that isn't too draining or incredibly weighty. This is an excellent example of a musician and songwriter who has rediscovered his muse, as A Thin Shell capitalizes upon each and every strength this project established itself for earlier by bringing back those same pristine melodies which join with heavier, more substantial riffs throughout. It's all very smooth, clean, and almost supple with the entwining of carefully-plotted blunt force and airy resonance, with medium-length compositions that never waver in purpose.
New vocalist Tobias Netzell (In Mourning/Contortion) establishes himself powerfully during the excellent "Fragile" in such a way that shows that he has no intentions of being overshadowed by the highly versatile Renkse, but the vast bulk of his prowess is shown through an authoritative roar, with virtually no other vocal dynamics to be heard. Additionally, the disc starts out rippling with determination when "The Custodian Of Science" and "Deplorable Request" strike like hooks to the jaw and jabs to the gut, but in another peculiar move, the unexpectedly docile instrumental "A Nighttime Project" slows their forward momentum by placing such a calm, lilting song so early in the song order. While there's nothing wrong with the song itself, it might have worked better placed towards the tail-end when taking the entire presentation into account, but luckily "Blackness Devours" lays down some deeply soulful opening riffs and another impassioned voicing from Netzell immediately afterward to get things back on track.
Each tune manages to stand out at certain points, but there aren't many instances where entire songs completely jump out right away. Each successive listen reveals a little bit more nuance for another few spins, which is something to be appreciated in this world of instant gratification. There were also a few times where the guitars could have been more pronounced, especially since the tones themselves are so damn righteous, but the drums also pack a good punch, and picking out bits and pieces of the accompanying bass guitar was a valued treasure.
Although it's still a little too brief for my tastes -- just one more six-minute ass-kicker would have been great -- Norrman along with Netzell, guitarist Emil Alstermark, Scar Symmetry/Centinex bassist Jonas Kjellren (as a session player), and Amaran drummer Robin Bergh will be tasting sweet redemption now that the so-so Grey Dawn has been left in the distance. If you enjoyed Rain Without End, then it's a no-brainer that you check out the return of October Tide's A Thin Shell, another strong release from the highly productive Candlelight Records roster and one of the better comebacks I've heard for a while. Let the doom in.


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Three blogs about Heroku deployment, Stepdown metrics gem for cucumber, Travis - the new distributed build system, An integrated firewall for Rails3, Using RMagic for fun and proit with Compass, and LumberJack in this edition of Ruby5
This episode is sponsored by New Relic. New Relic gives you performance monitoring, tracking, and reporting of your web applications.
An Intervention for ActiveRecord, Using Gems in RubyMtion, GemConfig, using Nested Attributes with BackBone, Lyricfy (sorry - Chris made me sing!), and a shoutout to Josh Kemp in this RubyLoco-Powered episode of Ruby5.
Easier rules for class structure, ProMotion for RubyMotion, JSON APIs in Rails 4, concurrency with Futuroscope, ActiveRecord help via Searchlight, and internationalization with haml-i18n-extractor.
Today's episode covers a major release for minitest, some JSON standards work, a tutorial on tagging with ActiveRecord and Postgres (plus an arduino to trigger the spray paint can), a RubyMotion tutorial and a little thing called CoVim that will blow your mind.
From multi to native json, JoyBox hits 1.0, ContextValidations and FormObjects, teaching kids at KidsCodeCamp, Plataformatec gems, tab navigation with Tabulous 2 and Git Real 2 online course.