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UPDATE: Rosen Withdraws From 1st District House Race
With Democrat Wendy Rosen out of the race, it is unknown who will oppose Republican Rep. Andy Harris in November.
UPDATE (3:36 p.m.)—Maryland's Democratic party said Monday that its 1st district Congressional candidate is out of the race following allegations of voter fraud. The area is currently represented by Republican Rep. Andy Harris, who ran in the primary race unopposed.
In a statement sent to The Washington Post, Cockeysville resident Wendy Rosen announced her withdrawal from the race. The state party announced Rosen, who narrowly beat Chestertown resident John LaFerla in this April's primary, may have violated election law as far back as 2006.
In a letter to Attorney General Doug Gansler and State Prosecutor Emmitt Davitt, state chair Yvette Lewis wrote the party found Rosen had been registered to vote in Florida and Maryland "since at least 2006." The party found she had voted in the 2006 general election and 2008 primary in both states.
"We believe that this is a clear violation of Maryland law and urge the appropriate office to conduct a full investigation," Lewis wrote.
Lewis wrote that the party "has asked Ms. Rosen to withdraw her candidacy for the U.S. House of Representatives."
In an email obtained by DelmarvaNow.com, Rosen wrote to Lewis:
"Personal issues have made this the hardest decision that I have had to make. ... The 1st Congressional District deserves a representative that champions their interests, votes for, not against job creation and builds a sustainable economy for agriculture, tourism and small businesses on ever main street from Pocomoke to Taneytown."
Rosen could not be reached for comment.
Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, a Democrat, released a brief statement praising the Maryland Democratic Party's "swift and decisive action" after discovering Rosen's registration issues.
"The action taken today by the Maryland Democratic Party sends a clear message to Marylanders—we will not tolerate any violation of election laws," he said in the statement.
In a post on its blog, the state party said that under state law, the party will designate an alternate nominee, following a vote by the 1st district Democratic central committee.
However, it's unclear if they'll be able to do that.
Jared DeMarinis, director of candidacy and campaign finance at the Maryland Board of Elections, said the deadline for a candidate to remove his or her name from the ballot was Aug. 28.
"Right now, we have yet to receive any paperwork as to the withdrawal" of Rosen, DeMarinis said, adding that ballots for the election have already been certified. "For our purposes, she is a candidate in the 1st congressional district."
Whoever is ultimately the Democratic nominee will face Harris, who holds a significant lead in organization and fundraising.
Former Democratic congressman Frank Michael Kratovil Jr. had been considered a viable opponent to Harris in the 2012 election. Kratovil defeated Harris, then a state senator, to serve as a representative between 2009 and 2010. Harris defeated Kratovil in the 2010 election.
Kratovil, however, announced in November that he would not be seeking reelection and was appointed in December to the District Court for Queen Anne's County.
The 1st district was officially redrawn in October 2011, including the entire Eastern Shore of Maryland, as well as parts of Anne Arundel, Baltimore and Harford counties. Pundits agreed that the new boundaries favored a Republican candidate.
Perry Hall Patch Editor Emily Kimball contributed to this report.
Karl Schuub
3:26 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Nope...fraud isn't possible; doesn't happen. So this twit knowingly voted for president twice which makes her guilty of a crime. I sure hope she's prosecuted to the full extend of the law. Sure makes one wonder - this lady had a public profile so somebody bothered to check the record but I just wonder how many times this comes in under the radar. Absolute proof that voter fraud is absolutely possible and yet, the dems are dead set against any reform, any precautions that might help safeguard our elections.
Honeygo Hal
5:37 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
So tell us, Karl, how would you fix this problem? No existing or proposed Voter ID law could catch inter-state multivoting. More Big Federal Government? I thought y'all were against that.
7:53 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
"[T]he dems are set against any reform"? Where do you get that from? What's your source?
Most every 'dem' I know would like to have significant voting reform that does the following things:
1) enables more of the population to vote. (national voting day off, early voting, etc)
2) provides significantly more accountability and traceability to the voting process. (full independent review of voting machine, voting receipts, sampling statistics, etc)
3) stricter punishments for voter fraud, and the tampering of the voting process (like the robocall fiasco with Ehrlich)
4) Voter ID - on board with it AS LONG AS significant barriers are not put in place to get it. Nor should there be any fee for an ID that is required for an election.
Frankly, until there is a national vote tracking there is no way that this type of fraud would be detected! It's ridiculous, but true.
As for me, I'm glad this was found out and Rosen is out of the race because of it. I don't think that there are any crimes that she can be charged with though, as much as that would be nice to have. And if the deadlines have passed, and there is no democratic candidate that can run according to the rules, then so be it.
5:37 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Wow, that's messed up.
I agree that how stupid do you have to be to run for a public office when you KNOW you did this? This isn't a Baltimore County council spot. This isn't a State Delegate race...
Karl Schuub
3:47 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Here's her comment from her congressional website "We don't have the millions of our opponent and his billionaire friends. We have something better; we have you!" She should have added...we have something better a constituency just like me, willing to commit fraud or using any other means necessary to ensure we can scam our way into an election. What a pos.
12:37 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Get real, Karl. I'm the chief Democratic election judge in my precinct, and I'm appalled at Ms. Rosen's actions. Did it escape your notice that the Maryland State Democratic Party asked her to resign? That the Democratic governor of our state publicly stated, "...we will not tolerate any violation of election laws"?
Democrats don't distribute misleading campaign literature telling voters that elected officials of another party endorsed their candidate, as happened in 2006 in the Steele-Cardin race for Senate. Nor do they make phone calls to people on election day telling them not to vote, as happened in 2010.
Karl Schuub
1:07 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
The mindset of democrats is such that today they rail against any sort of criteria - whether photo ID, or the elimination of motor voter; there seems to be nothing that might help protect the vote that they'll agree to. I don't care if you're the king of siam - it in no way changes the fact that from the current president, Holder, and on down the line dems all hit the groupspeak talking points - sqwalk; voter intimidation, sqwauk, disenfrancisement, sqwauk, suppression. We know exactly what the real message is...don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining. The muddier the rules the easier it is to scam the system - that's what dems want to hold onto; an ability if needed to commit fraud.
John L.
5:37 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Why not be voting in all the eastern states, sounds like fun. Some people will do anything to get elected and here is an example of it. Sets another good example of our politicians and their 'work' habits, no wonder we don't trust most of them.
Kati Van Poppel
5:37 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
This is why we should be required to have an ID to Vote. Even then there is still room for fraud. This election I am presenting my ID for principle! I have to, to purchase drinks in a bar, and to fly, and even to check into a hotel. Why oh why not to vote..
Karl Schuub
5:58 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I'm with you...I always ask if they'd like to see it as a point of principle. Certainly this sort of fraud (interstate) wouldn't be caught with an id - there are other ways we might stop this; but the other forms of fraud (intrastate) that we know are out there could certainly be curtailed with a simple photo id. Certainly this lady needs to be made an example and needs to do jail time and community service work - cleaning trash by the road in an orange suit seems about right to me. Voter fraud is a slap in the face to honest citizens as it undermined someone else's honestly cast vote. She's as low as they come.
Jack Frazier
7:18 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
kati, many democrat politicians would be fired very quickly without voter fraud.. starting with omalley, viva la babs, cardin, guttierez, ivey, munson *now gone*, ramirez, sarbanes etc..
7:28 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Ms. Van Poppell says: [about showing ID] "I have to, to purchase drinks in a bar, and to fly, and even to check into a hotel. Why oh why not to vote." Because hotels and bars are private businesses. I must say, however, that I have stayed in several hotels recently and none asked me for anything other than a credit card. I have not had to show ID in a bar or liquor store for many years. And we must show ID to board a plane because apparently we have decided that will keep us safe.
12:04 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Jack: please, let's be completely fair here.
There are just as many 'republicans' working to disenfranchise the lower class vote as there are 'democrats' attempting to circumvent voter ID laws.
Let's not make believe this is a one-side coin here.
Honeygo Hal
8:58 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Have any of you ever heard of ALEC? It is a right-leaning organization that, among other things, produces templates of legislation that lawmakers can use to get their laws through. The righties do plenty of research on who votes how, and they are pushing through laws to tip the elections to their side, and ALEC creates the model legislation that helps them get what they want. They got caught on the wong side of the PR war in the Trayvon Martin case when it was discovered that Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law came from model legislation produced by ALEC, and then they dropped out of the business of providing that type of legislation.
I mention in a post below how my mom, who is neither poor or a minority would fall through the cracks because she has decided to stop driving. She doesn't drink, her doctors do not want to see her license, and her pharmacy knows who she is - so she cannot vote?
The push on voter ID is a coordinated effort by conservatives.
Let me say again - VOTER ID LAWS ARE NOT A BAD IDEA - just implement them fairly.
12:04 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Honeygo Hal, Voter ID laws are not "not a bad idea," they are a good idea. So what if your mother doesn't drive--every state issues a photo ID which is the same as a driver's license.
Honeygo Hal
1:23 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
FormerHCPSEmployee - The point I have been making throughout this discussion is abot the implementation of the law - most of those lawmakers pushing this want it in effect immediately. There needs to be an adequate time for folks to find out about the law and get the ID - not be turned away from the polling place because they don't haunt the Patch like us junkies.
Honeygo Hal
1:25 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Terminator - some of the new laws say that's not enough, and suggest that someone can falsely show a voter registration card. That's why they want photo ID.
Tillie Diesel
2:34 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
My grandmother who is 78 does not drive and has not traveled out of the country in 20 years. She has no license or passport. The republicans do not want her to vote, which is fine with me, she is a die hard republican! It goes both ways.
Karl Schuub
2:50 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
She doesn't drive, has never left the country...I assume she was born and provided a birth certificate. If she's unable to gather her birth certificate and get down to the DMV to get the state issued license (it looks and is just as valid as a driver's license), maybe you could help with that? Sure seems to me all this caterwalling over the mountain older people have to cross in order to vote might be made easier with a little help from the folks who really ought to step up. You folks seem to prefer undermining the integrity of an election to driving your elderly mom or aunt across town.
Honeygo Hal
3:16 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So Karl, let's keep in mind that there is no such law yet in MD. What you suggest is not terribly burdensome, and I would certainly do that for my Mom if it came to that. But, I'll say again - for perhaps the 5th time - what if that call were to come on Election Day when Grandmom says "They won't let me vote!" Put down your "I'm talking to a slimy liberal" shield for a minute and consider what I have been trying to say all along. That's all I'm saying (Slimy conservative shield back up)
Karl Schuub
3:49 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You fill out what's called a provisional ballot - they have those at the polling places when improper or missing records create voting issues. It's available now; already regardless of voter id laws. Surely you have some other stupid excuse; now that that dog won't hunt either.
Honeygo Hal
4:32 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Karl, no stupid excuse - that is exclusively your territory.
Tony S.
10:06 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Why can't a voter registration card serve as a viable ID? For quite some time now, I've almost always presented my driver's license to the election judges. Some are smart enough to just take the information on it to match me up. Another time recently, the judge insisted on asking me questions of which the answers were already on my friggin' license! How stupid can these people get?!?!?!
I say either present a valid photo ID or your voter registration card! Moreover, the voter ID should contain all necessary voter information as well as be able to fit into one's wallet without having to fold it. I mean why the hell does the Board of Elections print those damned cards if people aren't going to carry them?!
Honeygo Hal
6:38 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
I am not opposed to a voter ID law, but not the way they are being implemented by the GOP Legislatures around the country. There should be some phase-in time, say 1 election cycle, to advise folks that don't have the ID that they need to get it, and provide them with the forms or information required to register. The current laws being enacted are a blatant attempt at voter suppression.
Karl Schuub
7:02 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
You are on ignore. Anybody that turns this episode into just another predictable rant isn't worth the effort.
Bill Howard
7:57 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Did you read those laws Hal or do you just believe the agitators? Many of these laws you say were "implemented by the GOP" were actually voted for on a bipartisan basis. By the way, is it not unjust for my vote to be diluted by dead voters and illegal aliens, or corrupt liberal candidates?
Honeygo Hal
8:12 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Bill Howard - The current voter ID laws are being pushed almost exclusively by GOP-run legislatures. But they are targeted to take effect immediately (before the 2012 election) with little or no effort to provide time to get everyone notified and registered.
I say again - I am for the concept - with adequate time to get folks registered (and of course with no cost to the voter.)
The issue of a nationwide registry to prevent inter-state corruption? Not a bad idea, but Repubs typically decry such a thing as "Big Brother" and "Big Government" - not to mention how to pay for it.
Honeygo Hal
8:13 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Karl - you have always been on "entertain" to me.
8:40 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
HOw are the GOP legislatures implimenting it? How do they know who the folks are without id? All folks have an id except many illegal aliens and they use other peoples or make their own.. We need photo ids for everything.. Doctors, meds, drive etc. extremely easier to obtain.. Md is now #2 in food stamp fraud because mostly due to illegal aliens abusing the systems by getting many food stamps using different ids. A good legit photo id would stop it all..please explain suppression and how you think the GOp is the cause.. I can produce the names of our md elected officials and how they vote. You can see for yourself the bill proposals regarding photo id by GOP and its not about suppression.. I probably can do all across the country but have to figure out their state websites..
12:16 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You mean like the 30 days prior to the election deadline for registration in most jurisdictions? We still have almost a month before that deadline, and the voter ID laws were passed long before that. Any one who needs 1 election cycle--2 YEARS minimum, or did you mean 4 years--to get a photo ID has far larger problems. Heck, the Motor-Voter legislation makes it easy to register and get an ID in one trip. Voting is a right, and like all rights it comes with responsibilities. Voting should be 100% accessible, but not necessarily convenient. I don't trust the votes of a populace who barely had to get off the couch to vote, but I'll stand by the decision of an electorate who actually had to do something to vote. This movement to make voting more convenient is getting ridiculous--in some areas people are voting early before September. Why is it necessary to provide early balloting in *SEPTEMBER*? Much can happen between now and election day? This isn't necessarily even for absentee balloting. Given the hours of most polling places and the laws mandating the ability to allow someone to vote, early voting should be the exception, not the rule.
12:21 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
And why "no cost to the voter?" According to our current government, they can force me to purchase health coverage and call it a tax for no better reason than I happen to be alive. I'll take a once-every-4-year $15 "tax" (8 years for people 65 and older in MD) to buy a state ID versus the fees I'll face if I don't carry health coverage.
Honeygo Hal
1:35 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
FmrHCPSEmp - This would be a new requirement in order to vote. Folks have never before been required to present such an ID when they vote. Pass the law, voter ID is not unreasonable - but it can't just change "overnight" when folks have never needed it before. I'll refer back to my Mom's situation - she has a driver's license, but no longer drives. She might be tempted to let it lapse unless she knew (she does) she might need it to vote. Those could be valid votes that are turned away.
As for the cost - it is unconstitutional to charge a poll tax - period. There is, in fact, a law known as The Voting Rights Act that specifically addresses the issue. Just can't do it.
4:00 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Honeygo, then the answer is to eat the production costs of providing a state ID. I'll ride with that. But let's not mischaracterize the timing of these laws. Some states already had laws--the newer ones have already been passed and had to go through a court challenge. Several months prior to an election is plenty of time go get an ID--and not a student ID. Those are too easy to obtain.
Honeygo Hal
4:30 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
FmrHCPSEmp - What I have seen from other states makes me wary, but I'm mostly interested in MD. There definitely are ways to handle obtining a free ID, and they will work. It is too late for this election cycle. Some other states have had their laws overturned by the courts for various reasons - some for timing, some have been ruled voter suppression.
7:18 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Honey, please - I guarandamntee you that the same people who so adamantly oppose voter ID claiming it is an attempt at voter suppression have no problems whipping out their photo ID when they want to buy a pint of Jim Beam.
Honeygo Hal
9:02 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So your suggesting that it helps to be a lush if you want to vote? Interesting concept...
Don Laye
7:18 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
NO Honeygo! The current laws that the GOP is TRYING to enact is an attempt to stop voter fraud. Fraud that is sanctioned by the DEMS and Acorn. But the DEMS don't want suppress the illegal alien votes. If a voter has a way to get to the voting booth, they can get a free identification card.
Jack Frazier
7:18 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
Honey as a many year democrat i promise you this is no Gop suppression. I do voter research in md and find many on the rolls deceased and many with several VR's = voter registration numbers capable of voting several times each. www.truethevote.org. try it. you research in your own home on your own pc and stop start whenevery you want. no restrictions. I'd like to ask you why you think its a suppression? In md we have been trying to get legit Photo id laws passed for years and the only ones afraid of it and won't pass it are democrats.. so why won't they pass it. They claim its an inconvenience for minorities, seniors and disabled. I'm all three. when i go to doctors, walmart for returns, pharmacy to get sudafed they all want to see my photo id. I can't drive without it either so why not pass it? Can you explain how that equals to voter suppression and for who? Hal i'll be waiting for your answer.. suppression is a word a democrat uses when they hiding something like hater, racist crap..
Honeygo Hal
8:19 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I have never said that I am against it. But their are old and poor folks that have given up or never had a license, as well as other potential folks who need to get up to speed. Enact it already. Keep the voting rolls up to date and phase it in. The occurence of voter fraud is not high enough that we need to enact it immediately - phase it in.
12:37 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
They want to "phase it in" to give Obama the edge for this election.
8:23 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
First, this a crime in both States. Second, there is no way to catch multi-state voting right now because each state runs elections independent of other states. Voter ID would not have caught this. As far as voter ID in Maryland, it can be requested the first time you vote in a new precinct in Maryland.
Jack Frazier
8:45 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
it should be requested all the time. I insist they check my legit photo id..a legit photo id would of stopped the vote.. its very difficult making a photo id .. if caught i think its jail time..
9:47 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
How would voter ID have caught this? Since her family lived in Florida as did she for many years, she could have easily had valid ID for both States. The Bush Administration was intent on proving the voter fraud was rampant, making it a top priority of their States Attorneys. The result? According to the Brennan Center for Justice (http://www.brennancenter.org/content/resource/policy_brief_on_the_truth_about_voter_fraud/) voter fraud happens about as often as being struck by lightning, which is pretty rare. I don't show ID when I vote. There are only about 400 people who vote in my precinct and everyone pretty much knows everyone else and we see each other every election. The problem I have had is voter intimidation by GOP poll watchers at precincts with high numbers of minority voters. In 2008 I had to have the lawyers come in and have the GOP poll watcher removed. Voting is a fundamental right. It is not like buying beer or flying on an airplane. My father was born at home in 1930 and his birth certificate is in pencil. There are any number of individuals who do not have what I am sure you would consider "legitimate" ID. Even the GOP lawyers in Pennsylvania stipulated to the fact that there had been zero cases of someone trying to vote under another voter's name that had occurred. Most alleged fraud is innocent. A family send in a deceased relative's absentee ballot, an individual's address changed and they didn't update it, etc. Voter ID is a red herring.
Nurse Ratchet
10:02 pm on Monday, September 10, 2012
VETERANS BEWARE...Ryan cut VA benefits and the Senate has voted it through. Altschuler and a few other Republican candidates are needed to pass this bill in the House; they only need a hand full of seats. Altschuler is the key link. Read the NY Times today. Take your time, it's a bit complicated, which is what Romney and Ryan hoped for, so us veterans wouldn't be able to understand it. It comes down to one thing and one thing only: Either Romney, Ryan and Altschuler tell us veterans "There are NO CUTS in the Ryan Budget to VA benefits" or they're lying to us. The Time and Congressional Budget Office make it clear...HUGE CUTS have been made. Read the article: http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/09/edsall-the-ryan-sinkhole/?nl=opinion&emc=edit_ty_20120910
Let Altschuler, Romney and Ryan deny it. We HAVE read the article all the way through and it was the Romney Campaign that has sent a mumbo-jumbo of non-denial denials.
Vets must UNITE against the continued Republican pilfering of the benefits.
6:32 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
why not go to their website and contact ryan and/or romney .. i love both of them compared to this stinking worst president our history has ever had. and FYI im a democrat and everyone in congress loves ryan for his many budget proposals. He's a wiz kid to say the least.
Tillie Diesel
2:51 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I feel sorry for you. This has been a great four years for me. I bought a second home. So besides my NJ beach house, I now have one here (BRAC). I paid cash for my $50k car, got a $15k bonus this year. With my raise I am over $150k, my 401k more than doubled this year alone. I just turned 40. Life is good. Life is what you make of it. You can complain or do something. I chose to do something.
Karl Schuub
3:12 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
That's super you're doing so well Tillie. So how's about you getting off that fancy couch in your first or second home, getting in your fancy car and driving your 78 year old grandmother down to the DMV to get her MD issued ID? I'm sure after all these years with no form if identification she'll be happy to finally be official. Should take you no more than an hour or so...after all you wouldn't be here without her. Wouldn't that be easier and wiser than forcing everyone to abandon the idea of free and fair elections just so you won't be put out the least little bit?
Tillie Diesel
3:20 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Sorry Karl, there is no way I will help her vote for Lyin' Ryan. She watches too much fox news to be informed of what is really going on out there. Its better for her not to vote.
6:37 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Vets have taken a stand for Romney/ryan. Sorry to disappoint you.. Obama has caused more debt then "all presidents combined". 23 million out of work and he grants amnesty to millions more to take our jobs. 1 million foreclosures a year should be enough for anybody to NOT SUPPORT THIS IDIOT IN CHARGE!! Shame on you for believing the big spender of our money and the future of our children.. He only bailed out his huge campaign supporters like union thugs ceo's and ceo's of auto and banking industries.. Also GEneral Electric who owns much of the media including cnn/msnbc/nbc etc who allowed lies to get obama elected.. Now they pay NO TAXES AND HAS CONTROL OF THE MARKET WITH THEIR MERCURY FILLED LIGHT BULBS WITH ENOUGH MERCURY TO KILL A CRAWLING BABY OR DOG!! Obama quotes> LIES WIN ELECTIONS!!
Tillie Diesel
2:55 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
100% false! Spend some time actually doing some research instead of repeating foxnews.
Honeygo Hal
4:43 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Tillie, You know, as soon as the right-wingnuts hear anything that adds fuel to the fire of how democrats are ruining the country they run it up the flagpole - whether it is true or not.
There was a story this summer about where Obama was spending July 4th, and it spread like wildfire. When folks drilled down on it they found out it was a reference to campaigning for Obama in France, not that Obama was going to BE in France. It went from one person misunderstanding it all the way to Karl Rove repeating it as if it were factual. These folks rarely let the facts stand in their way...
6:38 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You are a Democrat as much as I am the Man in the Moon. Lyin' Ryan can't be trusted. He'll say anything to get elected.
As far as Election Fraud goes this video is very telling.
7:09 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
steve.. don't you have a photo id? Do you drive? Do you ever return something at walmart or buy sudafed for allergies? This voter suppression by our democrats is so full of it. I'm ashamed to be a democrat but now i use it as an advantage to vote against most of them. Why would anyone want to suppress a vote by any party affiliation? i do voter research here www.truethevote.org and i promise you we have tons of voter fraud voting the same nitwits to office.. harry reid for one. Viva la babs another, Ben cardin another.. its been proven. why would the democrats say NO to voter id? All i hear is that gop suppressing votes? how? they claim its a hardship on minorities, disabled and seniors.. How? i'm all 3 and i have to show my photo id when i go to doctors.. It cost about $5.00 at motor vehicles to get just a photo id card. how inconvenient? As far as Ryan is concerned he is very well liked by all in office. He is a wiz and has made such terrific budgets.. here's two great videos you should watch to the fullest. and its not from a mickey mouser either.Watch these video's and tell me Ryan can't be trusted.. if you think so you just aint wrapped to tight!!
7:14 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Steve.. one of hundreds of voter fraud stories.. Get with the program Steve!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILJDudUpct0&feature=em-share_video_user
You remember the democrat Acorn Whistleblower? http://www.youtube.com/embed/3CmkbShVqNA?feature=player_embedded
7:29 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
wrotetobebeard... In just one county in md we researched about 7200 registered voters. Out of this number we found 5000 discrepancies capable of voter fraud. Most deceased still on the rolls, * I personally called the md state Board of elections and asked how long does it take to remove a deceased from rolls* Was told that the health dept sends them a list of deceased and they remove from polls within days.. NOT TRUE!! Also many on the rolls that have "several VR#'s > Voter Registration numbers allowing them to vote several times. We also found many living on vacant lots and as much as 32 living in one 2 bedroom townhome registered to vote. when we call the phone number, most don't live there.. Voter fraud is how we get the same ole Long timers kept in office. Harry reid is one big example. In md viva la babs, omalley and others are because of voter fraud.. i suggest you look at the 2 links i posted prior on steve's reply.. Just watch with an open mind. You also mentioned your dad.. Does he drive? then he has a legit id.. its not a hardship on anybody to get an id. Even the disabled has pick up service to help them get an id and if they go to doctors they need a legit photo id..
Honeygo Hal
8:35 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
My mother is in her upper 80's and has stopped driving. She will probably not renew her driver's license the next time it is up for renewal. So she is out?
Any cost in order to be provided with a voter ID is considered to be a poll tax, and is unconstitutional.
7:34 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
get involved.. Do voter research in the comfort of your own homes on your own pc and whenever you want.. no restrictions. www.truethevote.org
7:40 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Tim, i'm trying to be as fair as i can and i know both parties suck. But when i go to annapolis and testify on issues important to me like our $$, jobs and benefits going to illegal aliens and casa de md i am up there raising hell. Not our duties as a citizen to support an non citizen and 47% of casa's operating cost we taxpayers pay for.
Also voter id laws are usually proposed every year in md and the only people that oppose $$ to illegals and effective voter id laws are democrat.. Rarely republicans.. This is why I am now a swing voter and have been for many years. I truly believe the dixiecrats are long gone and replaced with corruption.. the democrat politicians cater to many groups for monetary gain and votes.. Also true with republicans with this aspect..
8:42 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Hal, gop before 2012 election? Are you afraid if legit laws are passed to stop voter id fraud obama might not be elected? Is that your fear here? Geezus.. think before you speak..or write..
Honeygo Hal
9:57 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
No, it's clear that the GOP wants to have the best chance of winning big in this election so they have a streak going. If it happens, it is much less likely that any fair reforms would happen for several years.
If the laws they want go through, it would be a one-time windfall for them until all the folks caught unaware get registered to vote in the next election.
amdactivist - you should wake up and smell the steamroller - before it runs over you.
10:46 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Hal. i've smelled the steamroller too many years.. The foolishness, lies, indecencies by the left is a place I don't belong. your idols like pelosi, waserman, rahm emanuel , viva la babs etc make me sick to my stomach. and the fluke whore takes the cake!! you need to wake up and smell the roses and get away from the holy rollers..
Honeygo Hal
11:13 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Oh, Gee - and Watergate was just harmless prank?
10:49 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
hal..How can you think the Gop has best chance of winning by trying to stop voter fraud? It really sounds like you know about voter fraud being a democrat thing and you know that without it your democrat airheads won't be re-elected? What the heck is so wrong with a valid picture id to vote? you want our country to be like other communist countries where they vote by writing on a slip of paper and dropping it in a box? Thats almost the same way here.. Ruler controlled like our master in chief..
Honeygo Hal
11:06 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Yet again you try to put words in my mouth - I AM NOT AGAINST VOTER ID.
But please explain to us how you know that if it is put in place, there won't be folks who are otherwise entitled to vote who get sent away the first time for the lack of the correct ID. In some of the states with the new voter ID laws, the ID requirement is very strict, where student ID is not good enough. There is a trend among young folks to NOT get a driver's license as soon as they are eligible because they choose not to drive. In NYC, it is possible to get everywhere you need to go by public transportation - not my chosen way, but some do it.
So do it already - satisfy your conviction that voter fraud is poisoning the democracy and must be stopped. Just don't make a change to the most basic democratic principle without making sure you are not causing some harm in the way you implement it - isn't the integrity of our democracy worth at least that much caution?
Karl Schuub
11:20 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
amdactivist and others - it should be pretty apparent that these useless tools will excuse nearly anything. If you hold any value in constructive activities I'd not even respond. After all, if this doesn't put an exclamation point on the need to reform our election procedures not sure what does?
10:54 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
LOL "True the Vote" is just a Neocon/ Teabagger attempt at stealing the election. The could care less about election fraud.
11:57 am on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
See how the "left" refuses to acknowledge when one of their own is caught breaking the law and try to change the subject. There are bad apples on both side but you people never admit to your's. Why am I not surprised.
12:49 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Terminator, let me repeat part of the comment I left to one of Karl's posts: " I'm the chief Democratic election judge in my precinct, and I'm appalled at Ms. Rosen's actions. Did it escape your notice that the Maryland State Democratic Party asked her to resign? That the Democratic governor of our state publicly stated, '...we will not tolerate any violation of election laws'?"
Karl Schuub
1:09 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Do I think this Rosen fraud was discovered by them or just pointed out to them. I'm thinking the later...and given it was already on somebody's radar they were left with very little choice.
Honeygo Hal
1:46 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Rosen should go, and good riddance - Okay?
But the overwhelming majority of the discussion here has been about voter ID - which, as I mentioned in the second post of this thread, will not solve the problem of inter-state multivoting. So who's changing the subject? You people?
12:22 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Steve www.truethevote.com started by a democrat teabagger.. Aren't you lucky to know that yes democrats can be teabaggers?
I know because i'm very proud to be a tea partier.. we care!
12:40 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Who actually started "True the Vote"? Do you even have any idea?
12:23 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
steve i won't bother opening your link from a salon. these are blogging sites and ain't worth anybody's time.. why don't you research with good legit links..
12:28 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Rosen is a leftist, you think? Not sure you would know a leftist if you saw one. [Hint: it won't be in a congressional election in Maryland.]
12:32 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You are all missing the point. In this particular case, with Wendy Rosen, you don't have an issue of someone who was willingly seeking to commit voter fraud. You have someone who is simply an idiot. She broke the law, & as a 1st District Dem, I'm not shedding a tear as I was not a huge fan.
However, the actual instance of voter fraud in this country is virtually non-existent.
It's a "false flag" issue. At voting stations nationwide, from the blood red crimson of polling stations in Alabama to the deepest blues in Massachusetts, poll watchers from both parties are there from the minute polls open until the minute the polls close. They are able to challenge voters who come in, seeking to verify the voter's right to cast their ballot.
And year after year,there are fewer than 4/10,000ths of 1 percentage point of instances of voter fraud. Just fools from one party or the other looking to game the system.
What is happening now is that there is a mass effort in many states to limit access to the polls to those who just might happen to be a little older who rely on social security and medicare, or a little poorer and rely on medicaid and food stamps, a little darker and who aren't inclined to vote for the GOP anyway. It's un-patriotic and pathetic.
Karl Schuub
1:12 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Dan just the fact alone that this lady easily gamed the system tell any thinking person that whatever the stats you use are false as currently there's little way to monitor interstate voting. Because there are very few instances of certain crimes doesn't mean we mothball the law against it. Of all the talking points the dems use this one has to be the most ignorant and dumb.
3:59 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
First off, I don't believe she "gamed" the system. That would presume that she intentionally set out to be fraudulent to have her vote count in both places. What I do believe is that she is a fool. And I am being kind in that judgement.
You want to create a voter ID law that is not tantamount to a poll tax, knock yourself out. But the minute you require someone to get a driver's license or have to travel to a local agency when they don't have transportation and are too poor for a taxi, you are creating a second class citizen and you are creating roadblocks to the basic premise of what this country is supposed to be all about.
Karl Schuub
4:26 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
She voted by accident in two states and you think she was just confused? You think twice; both in 2006 and 2008 this woman somehow mistakenly voted in two states - takes a bit of planning to accomplish that; this wouldn't be like forgetting your wallet or something. Incredulous to believe that's even possible.
People Person
1:06 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Veterans will be the losers if Romney wins. The Romney-Ryan budget has cut tens of billions. Yesterday's NY Times (Sept 10) brought it all to light and the method the GOP is making to hide it in the budget details. Because this is a complicated area of the budget, it's difficult to read and even more so to explain, so the Democrats have left it alone.
I think Romney and Ryan have to be asked the question directly; "Are you cutting VA benefits?" If they say no, frankly they're lying.
2:59 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
"They're gonna put you back in chains", "They're going to end Medicare as you know it", "They're going to increase your prescription costs", "They're going to reduce your social security benefits", "Veterans will be the losers if Romney wins." How many more groups are you going to try and scare? This has been a "left" tactic for a long time. Instead of telling us what Obama has/has not accomplished, you prey on the weak and frightened. You should be ashamed.
Tillie Diesel
3:31 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
This is why I will vote for Obama:
Obama saved the auto industry
Obama got Bin Laden
Obama withdrawing troops form the middle east
Obama repealed Don't ask don't tell
Obama overhauled the healthcare system, to get the losers who don't want insurance (so they use emergency rooms as their primary care doctors) and stick tax payers with their bills. Insurance companies can not charge more than 20% of primiums on CEO bonuses and admin costs. No pre-existing condition kick out clause. Children can stay on parents plans until 26. My parents are small business owners in MA. Romneycare saved them 10's of thousands in premiums. Obamacare was based on Mitt's healthcare plan. If its good enough for MA, then its good enough for everyone!
This is why I will not vote for Romney:
Romney/Ryan want to go to WAR with IRAN. <- haven't we learned a hard lesson from Bush already? This alone is 100% why no one should vote for Romeny!
3:38 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
People Person, everyone wants something for nothing. The mantra is "as long as I get mine, the hell with everyone else and I don't care who pays for it." Please wake up. There are no free lunches! We are trillions not billions in debt as a country. Look at your own household. If your family wanted to eat out every nite and you didn't have the money, would you say, "but they deserve it." Both my son and husband are veterans. They fought in wars and put their lives on the line for freedom. There comes a time in 2012 when we can't afford to do business as usual. Everyone has to take a hit. The poor, middle class, everyone! I don't want my grandkids saddled with a debt that my generation created. Please voters wake up before we become like Greece and Spain .
3:42 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Good lord Terminator, do you seriously think that scare tactics are limited to only one side of this political debate? If you do, you are seriously blinded by your own desire for one candidate over the other.
3:48 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
HA HA HA HA: "it's difficult to read and even more so to explain, so the Democrats have left it alone." That about sums it up. Everything is style and not substance with the current President.
And Tillie, Obama didn't save the auto industry--Ford did just fine on their own. He "saved" GM by placing them into federally-managed bankruptcy without calling it bankruptcy. Go ask all the dealerships he closed down practically overnight how well he save their industry. The only real difference between Obama's "saving" GM and the bankruptcy protection widely supported is that it would have been the creditors and investors--those people who made it possible for GM to have capitol to lose in the first place--who recovered some of their assets instead of the UAW. Bankruptcy is not necessarily a bad thing. United Airlines used it after 9/11 and saved the company.
Obama didn't get Bin Laden. The military got Bin Laden. They created the plans, they got the intelligence on the ground, they flew into Pakistan and engaged in a firefight in a hostile compound. All Obama did was approve the mission to proceed--a move that only a weak President would've not done. (And let's remember that Biden admitted that he might not have done so. Of course he also said Hillary would've been a better VP choice.
If you actually think that giving people health insurance will prevent them from using the ER as a Dr office, you're mistaken. It will only compound the problem.
3:55 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
And Tilly, exactly where have Romney/Ryan proposed we invade Iran? How exactly does their position differ from our current President who insists that all options are on the table?
Unless of course, you understand like the rest of the world that "all options are on the table" doesn't really include any military action beyond moving a flotilla to the Straits of Hormuz to prevent them from blockading the Strait.
In order to suggest that "all options are on the table," there has to be a credible threat of powerful, agile military action. You can't stand by as a region delves into chaos.
Honeygo Hal
4:57 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Re: The auto industry. If GM & Chrysler go bankrupt, Ford follows soon behind - parts suppliers and the other supporting industries could not live with Ford's business alone. Or do you think it is still the company of Henry Ford that makes every part and component themselves? Gone, years ago. GM and Chrysler closed those dealerships, not Obama - they took that opportunity to shrink the dealer network.
But you know it's funny that those bad things get attributed to Obama, but the Osama bin Laden raid - which was performed entirely by government employees is not credited to the Commander-in-Chief, who is over ALL government employees...
5:16 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
That's not accurate at all. If GM *fails* and goes out of business then yes, parts manufacturers, etc will soon follow. However, "going bankrupt" or entering bankruptcy is not the same as failing and going out of business. United Airlines was in bankruptcy for 3 years, 51 days--2002 through early 2006. No one barked about "saving United" because the UAW wasn't involved. The Tribune corporation has been in bankruptcy protection for several years now. Both are still very much in business and moving forward. When people said "Let GM go bankrupt," that doesn't mean let them fail. It means let them enter court-protected bankruptcy, renegotiate and realign their debt to give them a chance to survive. That's the same thing Obama did when he "saved GM," except whereas the courts would've mandated that creditors would've been first line to receive what assets were available to be paid out (you know, all those parts manufacturers everyone keeps mentioning) rather than the unsustainable UAW contract. Both would likely have had the same result for GM--but bankruptcy would've paid more money into the hands of those parts suppliers and providers of capitol and the UAW contract would've been renegotiated--by the courts if necessary--to be more favorable to GM's long term future.
Honeygo Hal
6:28 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
FmrHCPSEmp - Okay, if GM and Chrysler "fail" - all the other stuff I mentioned happens. Glad I gave you the chance to rail against the UAW.
I'll have to be a little more careful with my words - and be watching others for the same.
7:33 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
people person veterans absolutely love romney and ryan.. you post things with no links.. what about obama's defense cut? whats the difference? and i saw the link from msnbc.. msnbc, cnn, nbc and many others are owned by GE general electric. A stooge for obama and lied for him and now they have control of market and pay no taxes.. NONE!! no where in the link said anything about cutting va benefits. you bendover obama buds have to lie to get him reelected? obama said "lies win elections".. and you prove it..ryan said he wants to cut government which has grown 10 fold the past century. they get elected and then hire all their huge campaign supporters. the democrat senators haven't passed a budget in about 1100 days now.. they awol just like obama!! what a crock.. Shameful white house liberal scum..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbLO228n14o
3:22 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
They're gonna put YALL back in chains... one of your FACTS? You are a dolt.
3:52 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
The dolt is the person(s) that took that statement literally.
6:29 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So Steve, when a sitting Vice President of the United States makes a statement such as this, we are all supposed to snikker and just say "what an idiot"? or say "just another Biden gaff" or...... what would you say?
6:47 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You just chalk it up to flowery speech. Did anybody really believe the Wasilla Hillbilly could actually see Soviet jets from her porch?
Honeygo Hal
7:36 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Terminator - even with all of Biden's gaffes, I'd take him any day over Dan "The future will be better tomorrow" Quayle:
7:42 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Steve, I'm no big Palin fan, but since you're such a fan of facts, let's stick to 'em: Palin never said anything about Russia and her porch. That was Tina Fey.
Karl Schuub
3:14 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Have they arrested or charged Ms. Rosen yet? I will be contacting Gansler's office to demand they take action and suggest everyone else do the same.
3:45 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Karl, can you let me know which law she's broken? I'd love to research it more fully, but no reports have mentioned specifically which law is broken.
Don't take the above as defending her - I'm not, and I'm glad she is no longer a candidate - but I'm not aware of a specific law she has broken and I'm trying to find out.
Karl Schuub
4:05 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I don't have the information right in front of me...seems to me it's a 5 year maximum with potential $250,000 fine. Of course that's maximum. Seems to me there are opportunities for prosecution both through the state and federal governments. Just the fact that Gansler's office has already been contacted makes it pretty clear laws have been broken.
7:13 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Gansler won't do a dang thing. he's fits right in with md politician liberals..unless of course it gets him political gain.
Tillie Diesel
4:24 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Romney's own statements in 2007 make it plain and clear that he would not have pursued bin Laden or ordered the military operation that finally brought him to justice.
When asked about bin Laden, Romney said, "It's not worth moving heaven and earth, spending billions of dollars just to capture one person." He said the country would see "a very insignificant increase in safety" because another terrorist would rise to power. Sen. John McCain, who endorsed Romney this year, responded to that comment: "[I]t takes a degree of naiveté to think [bin Laden's] not an element in the struggle against radical Islam."
Romney opposed taking action against al-Qaeda targets in Pakistan, dismissing then-Senator Barack Obama's promise to strike terrorist targets inside Pakistan if necessary. "I do not concur," he said, adding "I don't think those kinds of comments help in this effort to draw more friends to our effort."
Romney added that the President's pledge to strike at al-Qaeda was "ill-considered," arguing that U.S. troops "shouldn't be sent all over the world." Romney said he preferred "a civilized world" where the U.S. will "participate with other nations in this civilized effort to help those nations reject the extreme with them."
As President Bill Clinton explained, the commander-in-chief only gets one chance to get it right.
Karl Schuub
4:27 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
This isn't about Mitt Romney, it's about Wendy Rosen and voter fraud...nice attempt at diversion however.
Honeygo Hal
5:00 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
So then this is about inter-state multivoting and not the unrelated voter ID issue, yes?
8:27 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
You know you're arguing in circles, right? You can't complain that Romney's soft because he refused to attack targets in Pakistan and then allege that he's all set to invade Iran if elected.
I think Romney was right as long as you don't twist his words around. Is it worth moving Heaven and Earth to find one man that we thought was hiding in a network of caves? It's not. That doesn't mean it's not worth pursuing at all, just that there are limits to it. And we'd still be looking for him if the folks in Guantanamo didn't ascertain the information about the courier which eventually led us to the Pakistani compound. The final path to OBL went through Guantanamo, not the Afghan/Pakistan border area. A large manhunt there would've been wasted.
With regards to attacking targets in Pakistan: the increased drone attacks *have* had exactly the effect that Romney predicted in your 2007 quote. While I would argue that the US/Pakistan relationship needs to be reexamined wholesale in the first place, US strikes in Pakistan has greatly increased tensions and Pakistan even barricaded an important supply road as a result of one of them gone wrong. So, regarding your statement, "Romney's own statements...make it...clear that he would not have pursued [OBL] or ordered the...operation that finally brought him to justice," Nothing in Romney's stance/statement indicates that he would not have used Guantanamo intelligence resources or pulled the trigger if OBL was found.
Tillie Diesel
4:27 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
and then...
Mitt Romney campaign co-chair and former Wisconsin governor Tim Pawlenty told Foreign Policy Magazine that he would support Congress authorizing war with Iran. Elliot Abrams, a former Bush administration official and now top foreign policy adviser to GOP vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan, floated this idea last week and Pawlenty said it might be "a good idea." "I don't know that it would be dispositive, but it couldn't hurt and it probably would help," he said.
5:37 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Wow....try again. Last time I checked, Pawlenty's not going to be on the ticket this November. People on his campaign can think one way and support a certain point of view--no one on a team will all be in lock step with regards to how they think we should proceed--and Pawlenty isn't on the campaign and advising Romney on Foreign Affairs Policy.
Nowhere in that article does it say that the actual candidates are rearin' to go to invade Iran as you'd have people believe. *An ADVISOR* has that opinion.
And next time, at least scour the web a bit more to find a credible new source. I wouldn't try quoting the Drudge Report as a primary source. Don't you try to do the equivalent.
5:01 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Tillie you talk about voter suppression but its ok for rep granny not to vote. lol. your link is one sided liberalism and panders to the left and as far as iran and war is concerned what about our tax $$ billions going to pakistan who harbored bin laden.What about our leaks from wh concerning the seals and destruction of our seals helicopter crash that was no accident.the seals that took down bin laden because of Bush' 30 second waterboarding. What about Eric holder and fast and furious and the death of brian terry? He made a deal with cartels and now he's silent!! What about 23 million out of work, 1 million foreclosures. Amnesty to millions of illegals for only 2 years and allowing them to drive and vote. why not do this 3 years ago? People aren't stupid tillie but you and obama supporters are being brainwashed and your either to illiterate or lacking common sense to do your homework . Its easier and less work to listen to the propaganda of your master imposter. The koolaiders and their rock star..I am a swing voting democrat and will vote romney because he made his money by employing millions of our citizens and not spend $16 trillion like obama to unemploy them. $6.00 morning shows at the theatres to see 2016 obama's america.. go see it.. Obama is a muslim . Every single terrorist attack in america done by muslims. They hate america.. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
5:55 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
If Amdactivist is a stereotypical Romney voter then Obama is a shoo in
5:04 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
this is for you obama koolaiders.. The seals speak out loud and clear just like our military who refuses to vote obama. I'd say they are smart as hell!!
5:09 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
An Obama classmate speaks out Yes, Go to snopes and read all about obama's one time friend and classmate.
5:40 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
amdactivist, where do you get the idea that Mr. Root ever was a friend of Mr. Obama's? As for none of his friends recalling Obama attending there, I don't find that improbable at all. Any college student will tend to find a social circle that mirrors his or her own interests. If they had different interests, they might never have exchanged names. Obama himself says that he began to buckle down to studies and didn't socialize much during his time there. It's likely that they had some classes in common, but unless they were tiny seminars, do you really think that they'd remember every other student in the room?
I went to a large high school with about 1200 people in my senior graduating class-- far smaller than the number of undergrads at Columbia, even dividing by 4 for an approximate number in the senior class at Columbia. During a trip overseas, I met a girl I'd graduated with-- and didn't recall ever meeting. Considering that I apparently had a few classes with the other girl (we compared teachers and schedules), spent the same hours at the school, etc., the likelihood is higher that I would have known her than that any two undergrads with different interests would have known each other at Columbia.
Furthermore, your link to Snopes directly contradicts your own claim. When I looked at that link, there were 3 stories listed. Take a good look at the third one: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/columbia.asp, which is the relevant link to your point.
5:53 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
LOL "Every single terrorist attack in america done by muslims."
Was Timothy McVeigh a Muslim?
6:40 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
i don't know was he? lol Steve vote obama.. it'll do your family wrong!!
6:43 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Dori.. go see the documentary 2016 Obama's America. The whole movie made with non actors but real obama contacts.. Friends, associaltes and family members including his brother, uncle and i think an aunt.. I fell for obama's wits and charm in 2008 and the best it has done for me is wake me up to the nightmares of obama and others.. I voted for him in primary.. Big ass mistake..go see the movie.. playing all across america..
6:45 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
That movie is a scam. It was filmed by a guy that sided with the WTC terrorists. He said 'America deserved what they got."
I wouldn't pay a dime to watch any movie he is involved in.
8:08 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I did NOT vote for Mr. Obama in the 2008 primary, and in fact he was my last choice of the candidates that year. I voted for him in the general election and have not regretted my vote. Although there are aspects of his policies that I'm not happy with, I believe that he would have been a far more successful president if there hadn't been a "Whatever it is, I'm against it" type of attitude from other politicians.
I'm a believer in the idea of "the loyal opposition," which is the attitude that prevailed when I was growing up (I'm 60). Polarization started under the Nixon administration, under the leadership of the late Lee Atwater. (By the way, shortly before his death he publicly strongly regretted the dirty tricks, enemies' lists, and polarization that he'd encouraged.) It's not a new thing.
8:08 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
amdactivist, I saw both Beth Fouhy's fact check and Mr. D'Souza's rebuttal, plus I've read a fair number of comments on the film. When people start screaming that "it's time America woke up to the dangers of this commie socialist Nazi!", I have to consider the source. The people who've gone to see it and commented have never had any intention of going with an open, critical mind; they went with the determination to see something that reinforced their own beliefs.
As for interviewing Mr. Obama's extended family, he didn't meet ANY of them until he was fully adult-- well past the period where his opinions and basic personality traits would have been formed. I would be far more impressed if the movie had interviewed the half-sister who he DID grow up with.
I'll continue in the next message-- Patch tell me that this is too long.
6:56 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I'm so glad obama don't pander for votes with white americans!! How about Caucasians for Romney? That would go over big. Talk about dividing a country.
What do you think would have happened if a Caucasian president had ever produced and published a You Tube video for ALL WHITE PEOPLE to unite for a WHITE PRESIDENT. This is the MOST SIGNIFICANT DEMONSTRATION of INTENTIONAL DIVISIVE RACISM by ANY PRESIDENT in the history of our country. Obama announces the 2012 launch of African Americans for Obama.
This is what racism smells like. It can't be explained away. Would you vote for a white person who did this? I wouldn't, and I think they would be run right out of town if they tried it.
This is just some food for thought if you're pondering your vote in November.
Can you imagine Romney putting out a call for all the white brothers and sisters to vote for him because he's white and so are they?
If this video is not alarming to you, simply delete. If you are offended by what's taking place, please pass it on.
7:22 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
Rmoney better start pandering to White Americans. He is losing their support big time.
11:09 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
I saw not one anti-white comment in that video. Republicans have a National Black Republican Association. Both parties have sub-groups for Asians, Hispanics, Jews, environmentalists, pro-choice, pro-life, small business owners, veterans, farmers, women, etc.-- in short, any group you can imagine. There is a "Mormons for Obama" group.
Mr. Obama's comments simply said that black Americans have made remarkable gains in the past few decades, including the fact that he became president. I see nothing threatening in this fact. He certainly did NOT say "Vote for me because I'm black like you." If that's what you heard, listen again, because it's not there.
By the way, when I see anti-Romney comments, I make a point of asking for proof, fact checks, etc., and I do not tolerate rudeness, obscenities, or calling Romney supporters names. Just so you know, I apply my standards equally.
7:00 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
tillie.. none of your reasons are true.. none!! vote obama cause your a look alike bendober puppet for the idiot..
7:06 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
obama lies about his own mama..
68 lies now prove it wrong!
Honeygo Hal
7:38 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
And this thread is still about Wendy Rosen...
Josephine Hlatki
6:19 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
I was just about to say that, Hal. Ditto. Hot topics always have a tendency to get off track.
7:42 pm on Tuesday, September 11, 2012
This man is no puppet for obama.. This is who we need to work out budgets that will save us $$.. you like spending more for gas, food, doctor visits and everything in between? .. He's proposing great budgets and the democrat senators hasn't worked in about 1100 days on the budget. why in the heck we paying them a salary?
Now listen to obama's bunch of malarky comments when asked about the budget? Does he even know what he's saying or is he high again? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ_QshAn2Gs&feature=related
7:17 am on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Dori, i also fact check but i do not use "fact check" on line. An organization that also catered to obama lies during his campaign because obama was president of annenburg in 1995 an affiliation of "fact check" and bill ayers was chairman same time. so much for obama's statement he was 8 years old when he knew bill ayers. another lie..
1:10 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
FactCheck.org is nonpartisan and has absolutely, OFTEN criticized Obama. There are a good many other fact check websites as well; I often use PolitiFact. The Washington Post has a good one too, as well as, of course, Snopes-- which you incorrectly cited yesterday. Obama never said he KNEW Ayers when he (Obama) was age 8; what he said was that Ayers had "...engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. By the time I met him, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois. … And the notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that … I've 'palled around with a terrorist', all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points." There's a vast difference. Your fact check sources appear to be extremely partisan.
I also note that when I rebut your comments, you don't respond with anything to demonstrate that my position is incorrect. I'd really like to know why you found the YouTube clip about "African-Americans for Obama" so alarming. Do you still think that Wayne Root is a former "friend" of Obama's? You really think that "2016 Obama's America" is objective? And I really find it very hard to believe that you ever voted for Obama. You may well be a registered Democrat-- a close friend of ours votes straight Republican and absolutely HATES Obama, but he's a registered D so he can vote for the weakest candidate in the primaries.
4:23 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Dora i agree somewhat and all sway somewhat but fact check had too many incorrect statements.Washington post is also known as washington compost. many of their reporters tell the news the way "they want it to be" not necessarily what it is.. Too many mistakes. There is a video or was a video of obama stating he hadn't seen ayers since he was 8 years old. I call him the flip flopper when he's just a liar and he can't keep up with himself.. I saw 2016 with about 8 other ladies of both parties. It was a wonderful documentary from many people that knew obama. his teachers, bar friends and relatives.. I don't care who believes me as far as my affiliation but to be very honest i also swing vote and have been doing it for many years.. The video with obama catering to black americans was disturbing to me. he has pandered to illegals, blacks, gays, muslems and anything he can to get their votes. what really upset me is other things connected to black americans. i am by no means a racist then i see things about Black panther thugs at the polls and not arrested.. Eric holder refused to do his job and many other tidbits so yes it upset me..I look at mds Omalley and when i lived in city i voted for him for mayor .. he is destructive with smooth words. He has turned md into a cess pool of new americans aka illegal aliens who can work any dang place they want and yes they vote.. All illegal. Md now 4th highest taxed state in the country and #48 for job growth. enough for the twins..
4:29 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Dora this is the video your talking about.. i hope i find the one i'm talking about saying he hadn't seen bill ayers since he was 8 years old.Also in this video you'll hear mention of annenburg.. which like i said is 'fact check" the same place he and ayers worked together in '9t.. Obama is not a man of his word and i beg you to see 2016 and bring friends.. It will enlighten you on many issues.. Obama is a socialist and his agenda is to control Starting with massive debt which will put more people on welfare and losing homes and Control.. its all happening. Another 4 years and we will be like any other middle eastern country. its starting here now with the occupiers.. started by union thugs.
6:15 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Nor am I suggesting that you are a racist. People can certainly hold different opinions without being racist. I AM concerned that you spout talking points without actually reading the articles they cite or listening to the clips.
You have not responded to any of my points-- you've just changed the topic each time.
Finally, I do not have the time, or frankly the interest, to deal with this any longer. You haven't posted a single thing where I was unable to find mistakes or inconsistencies, and you don't seem to be interested in trying to have an exchange of views. I have a speech to write for Saturday that I've barely started, plus a booklet to write and another speech to give in 2 weeks. Unless you actually post something that you've listened to or read CAREFULLY, I'm not interested in responding.
6:17 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
ARRRRGH. Seriously, I've lost my temper. Do you even LISTEN to the links you post, or just take the word of people who hate Obama as to what they say??? The quote I posted above is WORD FOR WORD from this interview. Let me repeat it: Ayers had "...engaged in some despicable acts 40 years ago when I was eight years old. BY THE TIME I MET HIM, 10 or 15 years ago, he was a college professor of education at the University of Illinois. … And the notion that somehow he has been involved in my campaign, that he is an adviser of mine, that … I've 'palled around with a terrorist', all these statements are made simply to try to score cheap political points." The Annenberg Foundation, incidentally, has MANY different agencies. Walter Annenberg was very active in Republican politics, incidentally. He was a friend of Nixon and Reagan.
Steve is correct, Obama is in no sense of the word a socialist. Look up the definition of the word.
I have no intention of seeing a hatchet job, just as I had no interest in seeing hatchet jobs that on Bush or any other Republican. Therefore, I will NOT give my money to the people who made "2016."
Oh, I believe you're a registered Democrat. I'd also believe you voted for Obama in the 2008 primary. However, you never stated that you voted for him in the GENERAL election, which leads me to believe that you're a registered Democrat much like the friend I mentioned, who votes for the person he thinks would be the weakest candidate.
5:17 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Obama is not a Socialist, not even close.
The movie 2016 is so phony it's laughable.
5:53 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
again you post junk blogs.. if you search a bit more agressive you'll be able to do "youtubes for obama" and he'll let it slip out..its not a movie its a documentary with real people related to obama one way or another.. friends neighbors, brother, teachers etc. see for yourself. if you go to fandango.com see all the great reviews. its a great story. you afraid i might be right? Nothing laughable in 2016.. Directed by the same man that did Shindlers list. Award winning true story..
6:25 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
It not a documentary. It was scripted and poorly at that. It's all fabrications and lies.
5:57 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
steve your comment about 2016 is a scam is a downright lie.. your not obama so quit trying to behave like him.. The director is an award winner..
6:02 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
see the clip.. its all true. All real people and To all obama supporters if you have family you care about you would NOT VOTE OBAMA..
Josephine Hlatki
6:22 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Why hasn't this story made FOX news...not local....Worldwide. Does someone have the # to call and get this running across the bottom of the screen? Better yet, get it on Hannity or O'Reilly, or get all of them talking about it.
7:07 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
josie.. its been all over the news. Even the liberal nbc hosted a couple sec segment. its a great story with magnificent reviews by all. No actors but real people.. forward to all your friends.. I also think it was on hannity and o'reilly.. not sure though..
6:29 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
"The director is an award winner" What award did he win? The "I Hate America" Award??
6:31 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Geez Dora. I'd recommend you re-reading what I posted not just jump into the link..take a break you'll have heart failure. obama in his own words said he hadn't seen ayers since he was 8 years old. The link i sent you was what you probably seen.. no matter .. vote against your country and your family. Obama is a socialist. 47% on welfare..23 million unemployed 1 million a year foreclosures, $16 trillion in debt and climbing. Millions or more of our tax $$ to solyndra and then filed bankrupcy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra.. obama took $716 BILLION FROM MEDICARE TO HELP FUND THE OUTRAGEOUSLY EXPENSIVE HEALTH CARE that sucks.. shall i continue? Paul ryan's medicare plan is to save our next generations medicare. If something not done medicare will collapse by the next century.. Our children and grandchildren won't have it. Paul ryan and Romney wants to repeal obamacare. Make it more affordable. Ryan wants to add vouchers for seniors so they can choose what insurance company they want to use? They take these vouchers and shop with it.. Open up the market and not be stuck with the failing medicare as it is now? What's wrong with that? Listen to this and tell me its all wrong!! Even obama stumped.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1yTY2MciOk
6:37 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Lyin' Ryan is going to do away with Medicare. That's his plan. Throw Grandma under a bus.
Romney invented invented Romneycare the predecessor of Obamacare. He started it when he was Governor of Massachusetts.
6:41 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
steve i don't know where you get your info other then the mickey mouse club. i suggest you read any of these.. i sent you the magnificent reviews. what more you have beside name calling and fear.. http://www.google.com/search?q=director+of+2016&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7SUNA_en
6:46 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
That doesn't say anything. "Magnificent reviews"?? I haven't seen any except from Rightwing Kook Sites. They are hardly unbiased
7:02 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
steve which link is the right wing kook site. Biased? Yes you are!! Magnificent views? Absolutely.. Afraid to read it? Yes you are!! what is a right wing kook in your own words? Intelligence, sympathetic, knowledgeable?
7:12 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
D'nesh Desouza is the Far Rightwing version of the Left's Michael Moore. They produce propaganda to dupe the gullible.
I guess in your case it worked.
7:33 pm on Wednesday, September 12, 2012
steve, you have some serious issues.. kinda remind me of chris mathews.. read my lips.. DIRECTOR!!! the propaganda is for people like you .. people that will vote for idiots because they smell good or smile cute!!
12:08 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
......or if they look like Mittens Romney with his dyed hair and Botox.
4:36 pm on Thursday, September 13, 2012
Steve, you haven't commented on Biden's hair plugs and Botox?
5:27 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
steve you remind me of a non voting illiterate moron democrat that is all nasty talk and no action.. i'm done with trying to explain to uneducated losers..
7:32 am on Thursday, September 13, 2012
I am very well educated.....and I have not missed an election in my life.
2:05 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Thats so not true Corey.. Ryan has been trying a long time before he became vp nomination to save medicare.. ask any democrat congress person.. They all love ryans' policies and budget ideas.
Knowles democrat plugs ryan..
2:52 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Lyin' Ryan has been laying low. He stuck his foot in his mouth too many times.
4:17 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Steve you wouldn't be half bad if you woke up in the morning and listened to the news.. Anything but msnbc/nbc/cnn.. FYi Ryan never layed low.. ask your democrat liberal politicians and the only one that sticks foot in mouth and leaves it there is you..
next time you post something stupid provide stupid link and not from sponge bob sites..Obama has been campaining since 2008.. when does he work? He plays golf and vacations more then anybody in office and hasn't stopped campaigning..
5:26 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
LOL That's just another Fake News Fabrication. George Bush spent 1,020 days on vacation when he was in office.
5:49 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
Thanks for your link.
Bush spent 487 days at Camp David, 490 days at his Crawford ranch, and 43 days in Kennebunkport. George W. Bush spent 69 days in Crawford during his first year in office.. and how many years was bush in office and how many tips to hawaii and abroad vacations?
5:58 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
That averages out to 127.5 days a Year Bush spent on vacation. The average American works 250 days per year.
No wonder he left the country in such sorry shape.
7:36 pm on Saturday, September 15, 2012
you are doomed to fail steve under the throne of your muslim welfare president. Feel sorry for you and especially your family who are doomed under obama..Keep being his bendover control puppet..
Bye Bye Romney
11:40 am on Sunday, September 16, 2012
Sheldon Adelson, Romney's uber-billionaire casino owner and financial backer, pledged to give Romney $100 million -- or "whatever it takes" -- to defeat Obama.
Do you know why???
As Bill Clinton reminded us, sometimes the answer is as simple as arithmetic. So let's do the math:
According to a new report from the Center for American Progress Action Fund, Adelson will get $2 billion in tax savings from Romney in return for his support. And it will be paid for by every taxpayer reading this blog, so pass the word QUICKLY.
If Obama wins, everyone pays their fair share of taxes...including Mr. Adelson!
Tell me...
Americans cannot afford to live the Romney-Ryan lifestyle without having the same personal wealth.
We can DREAM...but we know that it's not reality. Romney is still dreaming.
4:35 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012
I have a difficult time with this "fair share" horse puckey. What, exactly is a fair share? All these folks are spouting about fair share, but no one wants to define it. To me, a fair share means everyone pays the same as a percentage of their income. Call that a flat tax if you'd like, but that's fair share. I have a hard time with the "fair share" advocates because what they actually advocate is the rich paying MORE than their fair share because they make more.It's not about your "share," it's about your bottom line. These are the same people who would cap corporate profits if they could. Obama has said, "At some point you've made enough money." Really? I think we all have a right to know where you consider that point to be
4:12 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012
I have no doubt obama will win. The Bought media from Obama's chicago style tactics, lies and voter fraud will win obama election.. No doubt the 23 million unemployed will double in a few years. No doubt the high cost we all pay for food, gas, utilities, tolls etc will double.. One million foreclosures a year in our country will double. The result of socialism at its best. Full control. 47% are on welfare.. it will double because obama's supporters and chicago like thugs and GENERAL ELECTRIC the media guru has no problem pandering to obama for favors. Favors like GE who pays no taxes.. Favors like all the CEO's in auto and banking industry are now super rich. Favors like AARP's obama endorsements now has control of medicare... What saddens us is the fact that most obama supporters just aren't being told the truth. Obama says "lies win elections" and his supporters can't tell the difference between truth and lies and probably too illiterate or lazy to research..
4:19 pm on Sunday, September 16, 2012
isn't it amazing that under Obama clock more american soldiers died than bush's 8 years in office? Could it be because of the cut backs in our defense/military or could it be obama says can't shoot until your shot at policy?
11:52 am on Monday, October 8, 2012
Isn't it amazing how divided among party lines these comments are? Why do we have to be so hateful toward each other. Wendy Rosen is an awful person who should never ever have been in the race, but she was and now the residents of the 1st district get no say in their representation. That's a loss everyone should care about, no matter what party you side with.
Honeygo Hal
12:00 pm on Monday, October 8, 2012
Ella, a write-in campaign is possible, but it would be difficult to win - especially in this district. I have asked Patch to post info on how to cast a write-in vote, and I did find a link from MD Elections site that helps. As the election draws near, I'm sure there will be threads about voting, and that info should appear. In the meantime, the bickering will continue - and I will likely be part of it.
John Doe
1:47 pm on Monday, October 8, 2012
Ella - Did you see what you just wrote? "Why do we have to be so hateful toward each other. Wendy Rosen is an AWFUL person..." You are hypocrisy at its finest. You could have said she is not qualified.


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Anonymous | Posted: 2012/5/3 12:03 Updated: 2012/5/3 12:06 |
Re: Candidate Corrects Busing Cost Figure; We Will Too Perhpas the confusion stems from the Administration's attempt to explain why transportation costs were increased over $1MM from 2010 to 2011. I clearly remember Mr. Knapp asking why the increase and the response from Burnett was the increase was mostly due to the 3 campuses for LHS. The meeting was at the Student Services building on Main Street. Is there anyone else that was in attendence at that meeting that remembers Knapp and Latham questioning this?
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Quite a regular (Verified User) Joined: 2010/9/3 From: Posts: 128 |
Re: Candidate Corrects Busing Cost Figure; We Will Too "At the time, I didn't have any reason to doubt the number, because I'm just generally not aware of what busing costs the district."
Huh? How can you not be aware of what busing costs the district given your level of involvement? As you note, you were at the 2011/12 budget meeting. In your blog post that you link to above, you identify the $1.1 million increase and in the parenthetical note that it was for "(fuel, special ed busing, summer school, new routes for new campus)" unless you edited that post today. So you had already attributed that increase to causes other than busing to the new campus. In addition, the board packet for that meeting clearly shows that the budget for transportation was $10.5 million: 34 - Student Transportation '09-'10 '10-'11 '11-'12 Delta % of total 6200 Purchased and contracted services 9,203,417 9,379,950 10,531,716 12.28% 2.69% To conclude from this that the 3 campus busing costs $1.1 million you'd have to believe that (a) the additional LHS busing was the ONLY change in LISD's student transportation needs and (b) that it was possible that the addition of one two-grade campus could by itself cost over $1 million while the other 63-odd campuses cost $9 million combined, or $140K to $150K per campus. I don't think there was any attempt to deceive but I would expect informed board members and activists/journalists to recognize that an increase of this size must be attributable to more than just an additional campus - like Jeff Knapp did. And misunderstanding the transportation costs by a whole order of magnitude kinda makes your criticism of my aunt June - that she hasn't been involved long enough to know the district - ring a little hollow. |
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