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001-800-12-0666622 (ไม่เสียค่าบริการ)จันทร์-ศุกร์ 9:00-18:00
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อาจมีค่าบริการสำหรับผู้เข้าพักเพิ่มเติม ซึ่งจะแตกต่างกันไปตามนโยบายของโรงแรม
ต้องแสดงบัตรประชาชนและบัตรเครดิตเมื่อเช็คอิน สำหรับค่าใช้จ่ายอื่นๆ
คำขอพิเศษต่างๆ ขึ้นอยู่กับความพร้อมของทางโรงแรมเมื่อเช็คอิน และอาจมีค่าบริการเพิ่มเติม ทางเราไม่สามารถรับรองคำขอพิเศษเหล่านี้
โรงแรมแห่งนี้ไม่มีสิ่งอำนวยความสะดวกสำหรับผู้พิการใดๆ โปรดเลือกโรงแรมอื่นหากคุณสนใจที่จะจองห้องพักที่มีสิ่งอำนวยความสะดวกสำหรับผู้พิการ
มีอาหารเช้าแบบบุฟเฟ่ต์ให้บริการทุกวัน (คิดค่าบริการ) ที่ ห้องรับประทานอาหารเช้า
Cafe di Ripetta - ห้องอาหารหรู นี้ให้บริการ อาหารเช้า, อาหารกลางวัน, อาหารเย็น และ บรันช์สุดสัปดาห์ ผู้เข้าพักสามารถนั่งดื่มที่บาร์และรับประทานอาหารกลางแจ้ง (ถ้าสภาพอากาศเอื้ออำนวย)
รูมเซอร์วิส (จำกัดเวลาบริการ)
กิจกรรมนันทนาการที่ระบุด้านล่างนี้มีให้บริการภายในที่พักหรืออยู่ในบริเวณใกล้เคียง อาจมีค่าบริการ
ค่าบริการด้านล่างนี้ยังไม่รวมอยู่ในราคาห้องพักโดยรวม ยกเว้นในกรณีที่ระบุไว้เป็นอย่างอื่น ที่พักจะเรียกเก็บค่าบริการเพิ่มเติม ณ เวลาเช็คอินหรือเช็คเอาท์ ค่าบริการจะแตกต่างกันออกไป ตามระยะเวลาการเข้าพักหรือประเภทของห้องพัก เป็นต้น ที่พักแห่งนี้จะเรียกเก็บค่าบริการเพิ่มเติมตามรายการต่อไปนี้:
เราได้รวมค่าธรรมเนียมทั้งหมดที่โรงแรมแจ้งกับเราไว้แล้ว แต่ค่าธรรมเนียมอาจมีการเปลี่ยนแปลง ขึ้นอยู่กับระยะเวลาของการเข้าพักหรือห้องพักที่คุณจอง
ค่าธรรมเนียมและค่ามัดจำต่อไปนี้จะเรียกเก็บโดยโรงแรม เมื่อเช็คอินหรือเช็คเอาต์ (หากมีการใช้บริการเพิ่มเติม)
ค่าธรรมเนียมด้านบนอาจยังไม่ครอบคลุมทั้งหมด ไม่รวมภาษี และอาจมีการเปลี่ยนแปลง
อาจมีค่าบริการสำหรับผู้เข้าพักเพิ่มเติม ซึ่งจะแตกต่างกันไปตามนโยบายของโรงแรม
ต้องแสดงบัตรประชาชนและบัตรเครดิตเมื่อเช็คอิน สำหรับค่าใช้จ่ายอื่นๆ
คำขอพิเศษต่างๆ ขึ้นอยู่กับความพร้อมของทางโรงแรมเมื่อเช็คอิน และอาจมีค่าบริการเพิ่มเติม ทางเราไม่สามารถรับรองคำขอพิเศษเหล่านี้
Rome's largest, most spectacular fountain, the Trevi Fountain is a baroque extravaganza, its ancient sea gods and gushing water dominating a tiny piazza. Immortalised in Fellini's film, 'La Dolce Vita', this is the place to toss your coins to ensure your return to the Eternal City. The three streets radiating from the piazza lead to the historical centre and sights of the Quirinale – one of the original seven hills.
ดูโรงแรมทั้งหมดใน โรม"Very nice"
The location was great and the inner courtyard was very lovely. The tub in the bathroom was extremely narrow and slippery on the bottom. Don't turn around quickly! Close to Spanish Steps and Piazza del Popolo.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"close to all places and transport"
Would definitely come back and recommend to others. Value for money. Staff extremely helpful. Loved outdoor area!ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
Main concern was the room .....it was tired and needs refreshing. Walls marked, carpets dirty. And there was no coffee/tea facility in the room contrary to what was advised on the Hotels.com website. However it was in a great location for seeing Rome's attractions. The hotel's public areas are first class and the staff very helpful.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Perfect Location for Happy Birthday"
The hotel, room, staff and especially the included breakfast buffet were top notch and alone worth the trip. We were there for only two full days but they were a great two days. Day one was a walking tour through the city past the Trevi Fountain down to the Coliseum. This was a very easy walk from Residenza di Ripetta and the hotel consierge detailed […] the best route to take to see the most sights especially the shopping and dining. Of course Day two was the walking tour to Vatican City and the Sistine Chapel. These two tours are nearly beyond words to discribe. Both were within easy walking distance from the hotel and the local sights, sounds and tastes were too good to pass up. The shopping on both tours was beyone compare. We LOVED it. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"great location, very helpful staff"
great location, big room for Romeความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Good for families"
We ended up in this hotel at last moment because of booking problem with our previous one-- Did not book previous one through Expedia--Hotel´s common areas have all been redone and are very pretty, rooms have not. They are comfortable and very large but in need of a facelift. Towels sheets, pillows were good. Excellent location! Service was good. Internet […] service terrible but when complained was taken off my bill. Included breakfast was good and dinner in the restaurant excellent. Would definitely recommend to families. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Good location for the tourist."
Very clean, very comfortable and excellent staff. Good location with very little traffic noise. We had an excellent stay.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Great Hotel to See Rome"
I loved the location of the hotel. Your breakfast was great. I did not like the internet service. I run a business and I needed good internet service. You staff had a hard time explaining to me how to get on the internet. I would not stay at your hotel if the internet service did not improve. Also, the food in the restaurant was way too expensive and […] not very good. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Great hotel for viewing the sights by foot"
When we arrived the hotel upgraded our room so we were very pleased straightaway. The staff were extremely helpful in providing information and recommending places to see. The last night the hotel had a Halloween party which was directly below our room - it was very noisy but the hotel were very accomodating in offering us another room, coming to the […] party or having complimentary drinks - we took the complimentary drinks which certainly helped!! The location of this hotel is very central allowing us to walk to all the sights or if getting a taxi always costing less than 10 Euros. Overall this hotel was superb and we thoroughly enjoyed our stay - we will definitely be recommending it อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"A home away from home"
This hotel was a pleasant surprise! Location is perfect, room was actually a suite. Breakfast was wonderful, staff were incredibly helpful and concierge was well informed and booked things for us. We liked hotel so much we returned a few weeks later, and although our second room was not as huge as the first, it still was more than comfy. To add some […] additional perks: the garden area in the middle is a wonderful place for drinks and since it was warm, breakfast. towels, etc. were top quality; bed firm and comfortable. All in all a wonderful hotel. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Does not deserve the star rating or the price"
Nice location, friendly staff and a nice garden. But that's it! Pedestrian street, you have to carry your bags for at least one block Small rooms, dirty carpet, air conditioner is noisy and does not work properly In the morning the shower did not had hot water bathroom lights don't work Does not deserve the star rating or the price you pay.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Great hotel for a little break away from it all..."
The hotel exceeded our expectations - in a first class position near the Piazza di Popolo. Good sized room (if a little tired) but this did not detract from the rest of the hotel which was stunning. Good breakfast included and wonderful garden area with bar and restaurant for warmer days. Would return againความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Great Hotel, Staff & Location"
Very friendly and happy staff, lovely and comfortable room with a balcony that looked over the charming garden where we ate breakfast every morning. The breakfast was as good as buffets go - scramble eggs, bacon, sausage and the other bread and cheeses that come along with a buffet. WiFi in lobby free of charge - very large sitting areas that were comfy. […] Location was within walking distance to Spanish Steps, Trevi Fountain and 5 min taxi ride to Coliseum and The Vatican. Great little local restaurants and shopping close by. Wonderful little hotel with everything one would need or want. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Comfortable,friendly hotel"
Generally we enjoyed the hotel,but some furnishings are a little tired. There were late night functions on 2 nights with loud music,which also meant w e couldn't have used the bar had we wanted to. Having requested a 'kitchenette aid' to enable us to make tea,it took about 4 visits for staff to get all we needed. Shower gel was not automatically replaced. Towels […] were excellent and replaced often. Bed linen also changed often. Breakfast is good and restaurant food is plain but adequate. Hotel is not quite as central as advertised.'near Spanish steps' was a good 15 min.walk. Staff were pleasant and helpful อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Excellent choice"
Love this hotel...Perfect location for Spanish steps, Trevi and Pantheon. Hotel staff and breakfast were great. Wifi was in and out . Room was large with lower seating area and upper bedroom very cleanความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Excellent service; great location"
I would definitely stay at this hotel again. The room was clean and roomy, especially for a European hotel. The location was perfect; we walked every where - Vatican, Spanish steps, forum, coliseum - but we are very active. The staff was absolutely great. We knew almost no Italian and we communicated with the staff entirely in English without any difficulties. […] The breakfast buffet was excellent and the outdoor/courtyard bar was fantastic! Plus there are plenty of bars and restaurants withins walking distance. There were only two small issues. The water pressure in the shower was a little weak and the lighting in the room was very dim. But those were very minor issues. Also, if you like hard mattresses, you'll be pleased. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Good Location"
Hotel location is excellent. Several very good restaurants in close proximity. Room was large but very dark. Only one lamp in seating area making it difficult to read. Sofa and chair in this area very uncomfortable. Bathroom had a very low ceiling making it difficult for a 6ft man to stand straight up while shaving. Information on how things worked […] in the room missing. Public areas were very pleasant and included Breakfast was ample. Some staff were very helpful others standoffish. Think I would try another hotel next time. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Close to all major must see sights."
Hotel was very close to Spanish steps, great location. Staff very helpful and nice. We stayed in three different hotels while in Italy this hotel had the best breakfast.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Nice hotel"
Great location, nice sightseeing areas , restaurants etc.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Weekend Break"
Excellent location, desk staff very helpful. Garden area welcome respite at the end of a busy day. Breakfast choice very good. Only fault would be in the decor of the corridors and rooms, which are in the main passed there best and require upgrading, new carpet in the corridors and rooms would make a vast difference in appearance. However overall a […] pleasant hotel in a great location for all the main attractions. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Excellent location"
Visiting Rome for the first time with my children, aged 11 and 7, I purposefully chose a hotel which was situated in an area within reasonable walking distance of the key sites, and the location of this hotel cannot be faulted. The reception we received was not ideal, although the staff were pleasant enough. We arrived an hour before our room was ready […] to check-in and although our luggage was taken care of we were handed a map of the city and basically invited to wander around the local area until the room was ready; traveling with two children since the early hours it would have been appreciated had we been shown to an area within the hotel where we could have relaxed, taken refreshments and informed as to when our room would be ready instead of lurking around the local vicinity! Having booked a Executive Junior Suite I was disappointed with the tired furnishings, the dingy appearance and stained carpets. The room however was clean and the housekeeping staff cannot be faulted. I am aware the rooms are undergoing renovation so I should imagine if you are accommodated in one of the newer rooms. In conclusion the positive aspects of this hotel by far outweigh the negative. The location is ideal. Every street is a little treasure trove of history, food and culture and regardless of whether we return to this hotel, there is no doubt we will return to Rome! อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Roman Ripetta Retreat"
This was a nice hotel that was centrally located to all sites within walking distance. There are delicious restaurants located nearby as well as convenient shopping, too. We had the breakfast buffet included which was a great, energy, added bonus. On days when we went to an early tour, we even had a breakfast box prepared for us, that was a great treat […] and helped boost our energy on early days. The hotel staff was accommodating and friendly. They were helpful and warm, too and always greeted us with a smile and a hello bonjourno). Thehotel restaurant was adequate, food was good, service was excellent. The gardens outside for eating were so beautiful, making the atmosphere warm, peaceful and comfortable. The hotel was clean, lobby, hallways, restaurant and our room, too. We had a beautiful junior suite with a comfortable king sized bed. All in all, the hotel was a wonderful pick! อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
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"Not a Summer Hotel"
The suite was a very nice room, and very spacious. Th elocation of the hotel is excellent and within walking distance to most of the city attractions. Their AC system is terrible and is behind the curtains. Therefore, room temprature during my July stay was unbearable. They gave me a fan when I complained but it did not make much of a difference. I […] would not recommend this hotel during Summer. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Nice hotel for large families"
The rooms are a little dated, but overall very large. The courtyard area is very nice and relaxing. The staff was very helpful. The lobby is beautiful. We would recommend the hotel to friends.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
It was a lovely hotel...but does need some TLC. The staff was so kind and helpful. The location was amazing...and that makes it so much easier to get to the different sites around Rome. The carpet was really disgusting. Things like that do bother me....but it may not bother other people. We had trouble trying to get wireless internet on our laptop. […] We even paid the fee...which was 18 euros for 24 hours. We did inform them of this...but the issue never did get resolved...which was o.k. with us...we were busy all day site-seeing. It would of been nice to refund that fee back to us. I thought the hotel was very expensive for the quality of the facility. The bed was very comfortable and the bathroom was a fairly good size. The breakfast buffet is really nice too. It's very charming...but the carpets need a good cleaning. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"A great hotel with excellent location!"
This was my first time in Rome or Italy, and before I booked this hotel, we've asked people around and we got all positive feedbacks, so we booked and it was truely great! I love the setting, the decor and the location of course, we are in the center of everything! The reason of overall rating 4 was just because the parking was too expensive, of course […] you may say it locates at the very best location. So after all I love this hotel and the price is reasonable too! อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"A brilliant hotel"
The staff in the hotel were great and were friendly yet also provided an excellent service (in particular the head waiter). The hotel itself was extremely comfortable and the bar/gardens offered a welcome retreat from the busy streets of Rome. Although we had a problem with the air conditioning in one of the rooms, the staff moved us as soon as we informed […] them. We would definitely recommend this hotel. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Ok but could do better for price"
The hotel was ok, pretty good location, metro etc just up the road. Our room was E, on the third floor. Lift wasn't working when we arrived but was fixed the next day. Room had a weird smell and the shower was terrible. Would look at a different hotel if we were to return to Rome which I have to say is amazing but very very expensive, expect 3 times […] what you would pay in the uk. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Be brave to stay in"
Very old building with old interior, it is spacious and comfortable for family of four. But very haunted feeling, very dark, big and quite. We felt depressed inside that big room, actually it is split into two floor that makes it as an apartment.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"The best location, super helpful staff"
We loved this hotel. Everyone who works there is helpful and friendly. It is a couple of blocks away from the mob of tourist sites so you can walk to all the "must see" attractions but yet get still have some privacy. GREAT coffee and comfy rooms.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Small room, but great location!"
We loved the location. You can walk everywhere and great restaurants very close to hotel. Staff was wonderful. Room was very tight. Not enough room to sit at the table. The bathroom was very narrow with limited space for toiletries. Hairdryer was fair.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
A beautiful hotel, with very helpful reception staff. Highly recommended.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
"Amazing staff, shame about the loud music!"
The front desk staff were unbelievably friendly and helpful, they completely made our stay and the location was fanatastic - walking distance to all the central sites. There was a lovely courtyard to have breakfast in or read a book in. Two things to be aware of. Firstly, the bed was not that comfortable - really hard with a hard pillow and secondly […] they had DJs playing in the courtyard Friday and Saturday night which were very loud in our room, They didn't go on past midnight, but it still wasn't very relaxing when you came back to have thumping music! อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Best location for those who want to experince site"
Perfect location, all tourist hotspots are walking distance. Lot's shopping and eating area's around the hotel. friendly staff. my only concern was the cleanliness of the room, it was very dusty and dirty towards the corner area's of the room. other than that, good room size and fully equipt. oh, the AIr Con is controlled by the hotel, it's only active […] during 10am and 10pm. not great for summer time. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Great Location, Great Welcome - Friendly hotel"
Very good hotel in terms of price and location. The reception staff were very helpful and friendly, the wait at the bar and dismissive breakfast waiter could be improved. However I would very much reccommend this hotel and congratulate the reception team for the way in which they engage with and serve you.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"A great find"
A clean well presented and friendly hotel that's within walking distance of all the major sites. We had to catch a tube train to the Vatican city but that wasn't a problem as the Falamino Metro station was very close by and we were only two stations away. Would return to this hotel again.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
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"Manchester traveller"
Good sized clean rooms. Possibly the most friendly and helpful hotel staff I have ever come across. Great location for easy walking distance to most sights.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Great Hotel! (Car Park Warning)"
This was a great hotel and we felt v relaxed and well looked after here! Buffett Breakfast and Evening Cocktails - Delicious but pricey! Our only negative is with regards to parking our hire car. Before we booked this hotel I called to check they had parking. They did and I was told to call them as soon as we are nearing the hotel to get information […] on where it was. I called the hotel and was told to pull up outside on arrival and they would direct us. On arrival we were told that they had a deal with a car park on the street behind the hotel and all we had to do was reverse down the one way street! I do not recommend trying to do this on a busy, narrow street in Rome where you have the tourist buses, angry police men and crazy scooter riders hurtling at you. It was near impossible and I have no idea why they could not have given us the address on the telephone and saved us 30 minutes of sheer panic! (We gave up in the end and drove another 10 minutes retracing the way we came in!) On leaving the hotel the gentleman in the car park presented us with a bill. At no point had we been informed that we were going to have to pay to use the car park, let alone how much (ALLOT!). We were lucky we had the cash on us! We do not usally drive so maybe we were naive to expect free parking, but I would certianly have expected to have been told the fee on any of the 3 occasions we disucssed the car park with the hotel. It was a shame that we ended our stay in a negative way. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"We'll be back!"
Wow! We can't brag enough about this hotel. In no way did it deel like your usual hotel experience. They were all so inviting and extremely helpful. Our check-in and check-out with Angelo was flawless, and they worked really hard to get us an early check-in so we could get to our tour without worrying about our bags. Ervin waited on us in the lovely […] outside dining area, and was very accomodating. The free breakfast was unbelievable! I have NEVER had such a choice of delicious and healthy foods for a "continental" breakfast. Best EVER! When we get back to Rome, there is no other place we would think about staying. I will tell everyone I know who goes to Rome they have to stay there. Thanks to all the staff for a lovely stay. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
"Large Space, Best Breakfast Buffet in Italy"
This hotel was pretty nice for European standards....The breakfast buffet was amazing....the best out of all 3 Italian hotels we stayed at. Great customer service. I accidently locked everything in the safe but "forgot" passcode because I didn't follow directions and they sent up maintenance man to fix w/o a charge. Pretty good location. Near Metro […] so we could travel around Rome fairly easily. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
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We loved the Residenza di Ripetta Hotel as it was clean, convenient and very provincial. The courtyard was beautiful and the breakfast was the best we've had in Italy so far. Our only complaint was concerning the air-conditioning. We had it on full strength and it barely came up. I guess these older building can only provide so much comfort. We hate […] to open the windows since there are no screens in Italy. But overall it was a great hotel. The staff were very helpful and there 24-7. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
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The courtyard was fantastic, staff was very helpful.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
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Great hotel, great location. Rooms were very comfortable, great shower/bath tub, twice a day cleaning service. 10 to 20 min. walking distance from most popular attractions in Rome. Breakfast was great, served in a beautiful courtyard in the middle of the hotel. Only complaint was the air condition which was working but not very well. We happen to have […] great weather in Rome and the breeze from open windows was enough to cool the room. Would definitely recommend this hotel. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Hotels.com
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My best friend and I started our Italy adventure by staying at the Residenza di Ripetta and it was amazing from the start. Angelo and Franco were extremely helpful at the concierge desk. They recommended great restaurants, called taxis for us, arranged tours of the major sites, and always greeted us with a smile. The hotel was in a great spot close […] enough to walk to day and night activities. The rooms were spacious and clean. Also the continental breakfast was fantastic! I can't wait to come back to Rome and the Residenza di Ripetta will be at the top of my list of places to stay. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
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very nice hotel rooms cleaned every day, friendly staff they did all they could help us book tours and booking our shuttle back to the airport and they stored our bags after check out, breakfast was nice good way to start the day. overall this is a great hotel close to shops and restaurants.ความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
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We were delighted with Residenza di Ripetta. It was a lovely hotel on a beautiful, quiet street a block from Piazza del Popoplo. We could walk to restaurants, shops, the Villa Borghese, or to get a taxi. The room was spacious and comfortable, the staff attentive, the breakfast good. We would stay there again! The only downside was that they were working […] on the courtyard, so we couldn't use it. อ่านเพิ่มเติมความคิดเห็นจริงจากผู้เข้าพักของ Expedia
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One of them, the ability-to-repay rule, was mandated by the Dodd-Frank financial-reform law, many of whose regulations are now being drafted. The new rule is
And here I thought it was the borrower's job to determine if he has the means to repay a loan.
It used to be. Homebuyers would look at their income, assets, monthly cash flow, job security, debt outstanding and things like that to determine if the family could afford to own a home. The lender's job was to perform adequate due diligence and protect against loss by requiring a down payment.
That was before the housing bubble burst, before toxic mortgage loans rippled through the entire economy, before the government decided that allowing big banks to fail wasn't an option. Those events convinced lawmakers that more rules were in order, ones that shifted the onus to the lender.
What does it say when we have to codify what should be common sense and best lending practices? I think it says that incentives became misaligned. Lenders cared more about the quality of the collateral than the quality of the borrower, according to JPMorgan Chase senior economist James Glassman. It makes perfect sense when home prices are rising at 15 percent a year.
What it doesn't say is that new rules will fix the problem. They may even make it worse by creating the illusion of safety.
In the old days, a wannabe homeowner went into his local bank to get a mortgage loan. The banker knew the applicant, probably knew his father and grandfather, even handled the finances for the family business. The banker knew his customer, in the proper sense of the word.
Mortgage securitization helped change that relationship, made it impersonal. The ultimate lender became the buyer of the mortgage-backed security, which made the market more liquid and enabled financial institutions to make more loans.
Without re-litigating the cause of the housing bubble - greedy bankers or government housing policy
Even the slimiest predatory lender didn't hold a gun to the borrower's head to make him sign on the dotted line. Only a handful went to jail.
New regulations will never prevent the next crisis. They can't. The rule writers, as instructed by Congress, didn't even try this time, according to Edward Pinto, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington: They ignored two of the three C's of underwriting.
A borrower's credit reputation (credit score and history), capacity (things like debt ratios and cash reserves) and collateral (total equity or down payment) must all be acceptable for the mortgage to qualify for sale to Freddie Mac, according to the government-sponsored enterprise.
Yet the new rule, as prescribed by Dodd-Frank,
The ability-to-repay rule requires lenders to verify a potential borrower's financial records, including income, assets, employment status and overall debt obligations. Affordability will be determined on the basis of the interest rate over the life of the loan, not a teaser rate.
What do lenders get for all their verification efforts? Protection against liability suits on so-called qualified mortgages.
A potential borrower's total debt payments can't exceed 43 percent of pretax income, according to the new rule. Unless, of course, you qualify for a loan under the existing automated underwriting systems of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Federal Housing Administration, which were grandfathered for up to seven years. And you wonder where the risks lie? Rescuing Fannie and Freddie has cost the taxpayer about $140 billion since they were taken over by the federal government in 2008. The Obama administration has yet to offer an alternative to the government's long-standing role in housing finance.
Then there's the FHA, which insures lenders against losses
Together, the FHA, Fannie and Freddie back about 90 percent of the home loans in the U.S. Fixing them must be a priority.
Relying on rules, rather than market forces, to allocate credit will turn out to be a mistake. And as for potential homeowners, a short course in individual responsibility will serve them better in the long run than turning the mortgage lender into a nanny.
Caroline Baum
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LOS ANGELES -- Electric vehicles and plug-in hybrids were just a fad, right? A now-faded dream from 2009.
Sales have fallen short of targets, most EV makers are struggling and a key battery manufacturer is on the ropes. Even mighty Toyota, the hybrid leader, says it's backing away from pure electrics and plug-in hybrids.
So why did so many executives at the Los Angeles Auto Show last week sound so optimistic (OK, some guardedly optimistic) about prospects for EVs? Toyota may be hedging its bets, but most rivals say their EV plans remain in high gear.
EVs are "inevitable," said Chrysler U.S. sales boss Reid Bigland at the debut of the Fiat 500e here.
Nissan Division General Manager Al Castignetti added: "No carmaker makes 54.5 miles per gallon without alternative-fuel vehicles. Direct-injection engines are not going to get you there."
Cost, range and infrastructure remain big hurdles. But with corporate average fuel economy and state emissions regulations looming, EVs are becoming an integral part of most green-car strategies, executives here said.
"The way the CAFE and regulatory environment is, in order to be compliant, most if not all OEMs will need some form of electrification in their product portfolio," Bigland said.
And it's not just about complying with fuel economy and emissions regulations. Nissan's push to make the Leaf EV a mass-market vehicle has spurred other automakers to act.
Though Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn says the Leaf won't hit its U.S. and global sales targets this year, he remains "very comfortable in the potential for at least 500,000 cars a year [globally]. We don't think that we overinvested in this."
Toyota executives are not convinced. The RAV4 EV, co-developed with Tesla Motors, will be limited to 2,600 total U.S. sales and leases over the next three years. And the Scion iQ EV -- initially planned for a large rollout -- has been scaled back to a handful of leases to municipalities and utilities.
Instead, Toyota is focusing on hydrogen fuel-cell technology as an alternative to EVs.
"Electric vehicles play a role in our future products, but their role will be limited until cost, range and infrastructure issues can be improved," said Jim Lentz, CEO of Toyota Motor Sales. "They have a long way to go.
"We can add more value and reduce our carbon footprint better by selling 200,000 Priuses than by selling 5,000 or 2,000 or 1,000 electrics," he said.
But Toyota is being "shortsighted," says Steve Center, vice president of American Honda's Environmental Business Development Office.
"All the technologies are intertwined," he said. "I don't know when the breakthrough will happen, but you have to be expecting it. You can't be standing on the sidelines."
Still, Honda's target for its Fit EV is more pessimistic than Toyota's for the RAV4 EV; Honda expects just 1,100 Fits to be leased over the next three years.
General Motors also is taking a different path from Toyota, emphasizing plug-in hybrids, such as the Chevrolet Volt, and EVs such as the just-unveiled Chevrolet Spark EV. Much of GM's lineup also will receive eAssist mild-hybrid technology.
"We have every intention of maintaining our leadership position in plugged-in vehicles," product chief Mary Barra said last month.
EV maker Tesla didn't have a booth at the auto show, but Diarmuid O'Connell, the company's head of business development, was in Los Angeles to meet with potential technology partners, including Toyota.
O'Connell says the first-generation Toyota Prius struggled to find market acceptance, but the refined second generation arrived just in time for a gasoline-price spike, and sales took off. He thinks the same will hold true for EVs.
"EV adoption is exceeding that of hybrid adoption in the first couple years," he said. "I don't think anyone is really trying that hard. You have to have the stones to make that bet."
Through October, sales of plug-in hybrids and battery electric vehicles have roughly tripled to 38,345 from a year earlier. Those numbers are still a fraction of the overall vehicle market, and when the Leaf is removed from the equation, pure-electric vehicle sales are in the low thousands. But once production of the Tesla Model S hits its stride that figure should jump.
"A lot more batteries are being made, which will help drive down future costs and allow for greater range," according to a recent report by the Union of Concerned Scientists.
C.J. O'Donnell, Ford's director of marketing for electrified vehicles, said 25 percent of the company's alternative-fuel vehicle production in 2013 will be EVs or plug-in hybrids.
At the show, BMW unveiled a three-door concept version of its i3 EV that goes on sale in late 2013. Mercedes-Benz introduced the Smart EV -- just the beginning of EVs in the pipeline, says Steve Cannon, CEO of Mercedes-Benz USA.
"We're still going ahead full-speed," he says. "But it's for a market that's not quite ready for electric vehicles in the volumes that are required by the OEMs to make it a real business proposition.
"Sure, some people will make that lifestyle choice, but it's not enough to create the scale all manufacturers need. It's going to be a long haul," Cannon says.
Dealers also must market EVs differently from traditional cars, says Nissan's Castignetti. He admits Nissan erred by "selling Leafs like Altimas."
With the return to grass-roots marketing of the Leaf in recent months, sales have begun to improve -- shooting up to 1,600 units in both October and November.
"Range anxiety" remains an issue. The Leaf's range is 73 miles. But Castignetti says consumers will appreciate EVs a lot more when the real-world range for pure electric vehicles hits 150 miles.
Mike Colias, Bradford Wernle, Larry P. Vellequette and Jim Henry contributed to this report
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I was demonstrating what HDR processing can do for an image during a class I was teaching yesterday at Saints Volodymyr & Olha Church in Chicago. I was delighted to see that the HDR development setting on an iPhone 4S camera does actually improve the image in the way High Dynamic Range image processing software is supposed to.
These images were taken inside the church, hand-held, no image enhancements other than the HDR setting on the iPhone. Usually if you expose for the inside of the church, the windows go all white. If you expose for the windows, the church interior goes all black. With the HDR setting, you see detail in both the church interior and the windows.
Here's the image without HDR. See the white windows?
Here's the image with HDR. Ahh! The windows have color and detail again!
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Room in him and him and i thought kennedy will delight in the year fourteen seven two italian scholar plucked an old manuscript off the dusty shelf in a remote monastery the scholar bujold gradually was a renaissance book hunter 's greatest zero what would you give was stared out ancient texts to collect them and have them copied the book he held in his hands was composed by a roman poet name increases it was a book length poem entitled on the nature and and it had been lost to history for thousand years on the nature of things is quite ignoring me and your work and if the contention of stephen greenblatt rediscovering this and putting it back into circulation influence the course of the intellectual and cultural history of western civilization professor greenblatt is a renowned scholar teaches english at harvard and is the author of a best-selling book about shakespeare wheel in the world this time he's written a book about what could seem like an obscure subject the recovery of an ancient manuscript a rich but difficult poetic work but stephen greenblatt has written this book with the city and with an abiding passion for the subject is book is called this worker how the world between modern i recently sat down with stephen greenblatt who was in the studio on the harvard campus before we begin hearing is giving us a taste of the creases so captain.
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Lesbian when you begin in the preface book that is describing how you actually came cross your copy of creatures and paperback books for sale at university work possibly ten cents tell me the story of how you came across on the nature of things i used to go at the end of the year to the campus bookstore to see what they were basically all but giving away throwing an huge bins and i would rummage through them and try to find things that i might want to look out over the summer but i had a very limited budget at the do it and one year i came upon a paperback called on the nature of things buys out and lucretius neither title nor the author were familiar to me but had a very interesting cover which was a detail from a painting by the surrealist painter max and steve that showed oh two pairs of legs up in heaven doing something he couldn't tell what and it was on sale for ten cents ten cents was not nothing but it even back in those days it was a modest price and i decided to risk my ten cents for what looked implausible of the book of ancient physics but that had a startlingly interesting cover and that's how it all started for me i went home sometime over the summer picked up the book expected to look at you page seven get bored but i was immediately seized by gripped by it and i continued to my amazement all away through the feeling that strange feeling one has the sometimes in one's life in which someone from distant past seems to be speaking directly to you as a real liberal i'd love to know what it was in those lines that first captivated the undergraduate who'd picked the book up in a secondhand bookshop while i was amazed i suppose as i still am amazed i confess was not only a question of youth and age though i certainly am older now that it to experience that sense of ecstatic love the universe is basically put together on the principle of eros of love that everything that exists is that the passionate impulse to reproduce as lucas puts it that seems to knit together all of the universe in the spring and it will get some of the same feeling from the beginning of justice canterbury tales are other places the seem to be the most powerful version before he understood much about what the philosophy was in this for the anything about it i just responded to the excitement of a universe that's come alive with some frenzied desire that we felt the frenzied desire more when i was eighteen seventeen in effect i do now but still i'm in touch with bullets amazing it is it it is so poetically you said the philosophy of the biblical physics are supposed to be but it comes across the meeting at leawood with israel all the bells ringing him in a in a much more poetic fashion absolutely admits a it's a strange paradox ball because this is a poem that begins with the extravagant him to the goddess venus the goddess of love but it's a poem that actually has long been accused of atheism and in fact in which the poet seems to have very very great doubts that any thing that a human being could possibly say could ever reach the gods even if they existed so there's a paradox built into the poem built into this opening which is the greatest ancient hymn to venus comes in the poem that says that prayers to the gods are absurd and meaningless because of the gods exist they only take pleasure in themselves and their own existence and could have absolutely no interest in anything that we say over there so many things with the pulmonary fascinating and one is that it was literally missing hard it is disappeared for centuries and really was written in the first century b.c.e. only discovered in fourteen seventeen bytes sent and this is a wonderful book to a book hunter training told jill albrecht shalini i believe is yes that's a florentine school of was pretty looking for book something that people did actually back in the fifteenth century looking for books that had good reason to look for books and because many many many of them had disappeared and of course the great preponderance of the ones that disappeared never came back that lucretius 's poem was around for several centuries and read care are traces at least of the very serious reception and admiration in which he was held by contemporaries like cicero or virgil there are records of emperors asking for copies of the poem assigns that wealthy roman aristocrats powerful men and i sat around in lazy afternoons when i have some time and read this poem talked about the meaning of life but then at a certain point when things begin to fall apart for the roman empire this poem among many other things disappears in this poem disappeared also for good reason because the pagans didn't have a stake in it as it denies it affect the effectiveness of any pagan cults of the gods the jews didn't have a taste for the division of the universe inspired by an erotic frenzy and the christians despised it because it's idea that pleasure was the pinnacle of of all that is good in the world seemed very very alien to the early christians who put together their religion but it wasn't the only book that was missing from what you indicate in your book it was it was part of the majority very very few books of survivor that there was a great disappearance call that a the libraries were shuttered dozens locked up eventually simply fell into ruins the rain fell to this the roof and wash the ink off the old viruses that were library 's were burned the paper was used for the purposes to wrap fish or the other less appealing things the people who read the books were carted off to slavery or die dog the education system fell apart the schools were closed the world was increasingly run by the people for whom literacy had virtually no meaning that warlords of various groups who had no interest in keeping up the old books and so what had once seemed very important and busy enterprise how to hold on to the legacy for the romans how to hold onto the legacy of greece as well as their own cultural legacy and the intensity with which libraries were filled with the classics by sophocles or aeschylus and euripides or plato or aristotle or hear lucretius that whole world basically collapsed they must've thought of the certain point it would go on forever the way we think it goes on forever are our hard-fought cultural inheritance but it doesn't have to go on forever to fall to pieces and it did for the pieces in the fifth six seven centuries after the christian era when the roman empire collapsed and one consequence of the collapse was a massive erasure of the inheritance of the ancient past something we often call the dark ages yes i was of course easy to exaggerate and one of the impressive things about the scholarship of the last century or more is that it's recovered considerable amount of traces of things that had survived that even through the darkest part of the period of chaos and disruption that they were above all survivals in monasteries because for a set of odd and fascinating reasons monasteries that though devoted of course utterly to the service of christ that nonetheless became repositories of pagan texts at certain numbers in any case copied this is things fall apart eventually copied every few hundred years say in order to keep them going and it's to that act of copying that we owe not only the survival of creatures but the survival of virtually anything from the ancient past everything that we get from the ancient past is a result of someone copying it again and again often in a very dark time let's talk for a bit about pull jill brooke giuliani who am almost becomes the hero of your book of lucretius 's post front and center but for just such an endearing him and really attractive character why do i get carried away with the torture virtually i became fascinated by cultural mobility by what means the subject comeback when you think it's gone forever is part of a world of people small world but intense people who became obsessed with this project of finding out what if anything had survived from the ancient world and where does he find lucretius defies egregious the way most people find these it found such texts in a monastery that probably monastery in germany probably fold although there are are debates about where he might've found it he himself didn't reveal the name of the monastery refound this particular text either because a letter was lost and she said it work if this is likely because he hope to go back sometime and didn't want to tell some of his competitors could seize part of the world in which lots of people are ferreting around for this he didn't want to tell him where his particular goldmine was why were the third and around her and would live with it looking the rich to beat did they sell these to patrons who have lots of money or with with this blog was a certain amount of money involved it was an odd way of trying to get rich and no one actually made a huge fortune on it but you could get same from it and the receipt the same from it is that starting in the fourteenth century with the great figure of the great talent poet petrarch there was an increasing interest in the possibility of recovering the lost glories of the ancient roman world that what had been somehow over very many centuries comfortably lost people began to think might be found people who in any case increasing uncomfortable about the fact that it was at all disappeared they saw the ruins around them of course as you can see the ruins around you today in italy they knew that there was once a remarkable civilization they knew they were living in its in its disjointed dismembered ruins and they began to think we could get this back there were people who thought they could wordpress it in the physical objects digging up old statues that begins precisely this people start digging in finding statues instead of instead of burning them down for building materials were building the walls that begin to look at them and admire them and copy them and then there are people who get interested in the books and think we could find some of these books that we know existed and we have seen for centuries as i mentioned before the dark ages this is what we call the rené saltz such the rebirth of classical civilization that's what they like to call it medication like to think of themselves as part of a rebirth to some extent course it's a cultural myth everyone has ways to make themselves feel good at puncher virtually probably found a copy of lucretius listed in the catalog of the monastery so that is not exactly finding it in the cave by the dead sea at another words there were people who would kept these allies had copied them that catalog them and get from poachers point of view and the point of view of people like him humanists in italy in the fifty centuries a call from cells that they thought that they were coming on the world of barbarians would kept their heroes in prison and they were liberating the heroes bring them back to the free air of civil conversation with the other with the poem itself but which is a work of what is poetry it's also philosophy and it's also physics so what does lucretius layout for the reader lucretius was a follower the greatest roman follower of the greek philosopher epicurus epicurus lived from the middle of the fourth century before the christian era that probably enough he was born around three forty one before the christian era and he died in two seventy questionnaire before the christian era sorry that so epicurus was a philosopher who was himself following the school of philosophy is a great master was a earlier philosopher named democritus and he stood for whole philosophical system but that system which came comes out west comes that was on was entirely through lucretius as his prince before that's a safe we don't know all that much about that epicurus himself and even less about democritus because berkeley all of their works have disappeared and not come back very small number of them to short the text by epicurus some fragments that also have been recovered some recovered from the charred manuscripts after the volcanic directions around pompeii and so forth but basically nothing and lucretius is a miracle because he followed the system passionately he gave it a profound and poetic articulation in the first century before the christian era and it's from lucretius that we really understand fully what this philosophy is it's a philosophy that starts with the idea that the universe is made up out of an infinite number of invisible particles in invisible and indivisible as the greeks imagined the greek word for the indivisibility of particles was adam that's not a word actually that's lucretius himself uses he likes to give them roman names rather than retains latin names rodriguez but that's the core idea the core idea is that the universe must consist everything that is from our bodies to the ground beneath our feet to everything that we see that must consist of infinite numbers of tiny particles that somehow bound together in different forms and shapes that they came to this realization would've the advantage of the electron microscopes are new things of modern times ahead out how did they come to decide that the universe was the host of these afro score of basic units is a fantastic speculations in apartment of course there was no empirical proof of this also more than two thousand years well more than two thousand years so it was a fantastic speculation competing with other speculations it just happens that the speculation turns out to be closer to the truth of things than than its competitors and how they came up with was to deductions unbelievably clever daring deductions from some very chewier and obvious observations if you lie down as they did as we do and look at a beam of son sunlight filter your window you see
in it best notes and that's one thing they began to think about how is it what is what is it what does it mean that there are thousands and thousands
of little
we normally don't see but that when the light is exactly right you can see in a shaft of sunlight or how is it that smell of perfume reaches your nose when you don't see it in the year or how is it that when you put your clothing next to the ocean but not in the water i sit you come back in an hour so your clothing is damp what's seen in visibly from one thing to another and what does it mean the things passing visibly and there are number of different theories have is to be but the theory that democritus and his followers came up with visibly epicurus was that there must be invisible particles and then they began to think about what it means that they would be what would follow from this idea and it really was what followed from the idea that is the exciting part because after all the universe has to consist of something so there were many competitive competing theories about what it might be but it was what followed from the idea of atoms that is both exciting and disturbing and here's some of things that follow them first of all they notice that motion that i just mentioned when you look at the dust modes and they thought what was this means that everything even though we don't see it in motion that everything that exists is in some sense in motion but nothing is perfectly still that even though it feels still look still as the table before us the grounding their feet what if it's actually made up out of considering movement and what if those atoms are eternal and that mean if the answer and movement and their eternal victim part but they can't be destroyed if they can apart bill come together again in different forms that everything exists consists of what is eternal but is constantly reshuffled into new forms and shapes so that's one set of thoughts that come from this second hold my thoughts has to do with what would make it shuffle about someone is some directing it is someone putting it together that we don't see and they came up with the fascinating and too many people still terrified thought that it didn't need a creator or designer what it needed was time that the universe had an infinite amount of times they thought if the atoms were eternal then eventually anything that could come to exist could come to exist about how complex the system that he didn't need that unintelligent design and that everything could exist simply because of the random movements what they called the swerves of the atoms banging into each other at four this on imaginable length of time i visited all loses of the theoretically ancient philosophy going back.
I guess to the democritus of this it sounds painfully modern all posted times and it is it it has residents for some deluding of 21st-century even though he was back for centuries before the christian era absolutely call that's for me initially and still get eerie part of this attacked that that makes it still gives me a very strange on this physical sensation of surprised that that so many things that seem at least part of our inception of the universe of things we grapple with many cases part of our conception of the universe were already articulated that such a long time ago millennium ago the idea of the nature constantly ceases the experiments that it's filled with annotations and transformations lucretius thought for example that there must because of this there must be constant experiments and new species that the must of been other species in the earth before we existed as humans or anything that we see around us that there will be other species after we ceased to exist that what happens he thought is that if nature comes up in this peculiar way of constant experimentation with creatures who can adapt to the way things are fine food are able to reproduce are able to take care of a young those creatures will survive at least for a certain period of time the species and then the universal change situation will change for them and the mill ceased to exist as he came up with effectively the core of what darwinian natural selection argues that this is two thousand years ago he was also some who believe that there must've been there must be other universes other or other solar systems of the planet 's other forms of life for the sake he thought that the universe as a whole cosmos was not created for humans the humans were not unique or not at the center of things and the earth was not unique in the center things that there were many sons and there would be many planets around bosons and they must be other universes that he thought that the idea that everything depends on our fate that the gods are watching what we do was a species of pure delusion americans on the part of human beings that whatever meaning human beings would have they have to find for themselves in this life and not find it in the scheme of an afterlife given to them by god or even green the author of this word how the world came on this is ideas on cbc radio one across america on sirius satellite radio one fifty nine and around the world on the web and paul kennedy stephen greenblatt teaches english at harvard is a shakespearean scholar with a passionate interest in the renaissance was drawn to write about the recovery of a lost manuscript of poland by the roman poet priestess called on the nature of things and how that it was placed back in circulation helped change the actual cultural climate of her.
Focus for a while one of this word which is the title of the book is its attorney used to characterize this not well written is it random or is it not these these atoms littered a bouncing around and bumping into one another is there a pattern to this or is this completely random and arbitrary of course the universe he thought is full of beautiful pattern things he saw as everyone sees as we all see that the universe is absolutely startling in its order he could observe as we do that no matter how small you get how close you look when you look at and insects look at the crystalline structure of a rock you see pattern so they must be in that sense design in things but he thought that the principle that underlay the design was effectively the random movement of the items he thought the atoms that some items could connect to other atoms in some atoms can't connect the design as the atoms move some items are good it and linking to other atoms some items that are not good at connecting to those particular items in other words he had some notion didn't have the notion the periodic table some notion that the eat that the atoms they were limited number of types of atoms and they were of different designs and somewhat more easily onto others and that helped to account for the diversity of things also for the limits of sizes of things you could get enormous things the small things but there wasn't an unlimited size of things because of the nature of the structure of the universe but he didn't think that they had to be at someone designing the subject he thought it was important to understand that there wasn't a design because of if everything was determined he thought that there would be no freedom at what he thought was that the swerving of the adams was called in latin the cleanup man like our word declination or inclination that clinton and the movement of the items was random and therefore allow for the possibility of human freedom with free because we cannot be determined by the divine scheme of things that i consider there could be at least two possible responses to this kind of worldview one would be yes this is very liberating it's free and very exhilarating yet it could be that is absolutely terrified that ship that we we know nothing and can know nothing and are just creatures of of of irrational forces.
Well yes you are right though lucas would have said we can know nothing someone like montaigne in fact released at times in his life in the city century said yes the consequence of this is to basically know nothing but lucretius actually thought we could know quite a lot about the structure of things that it was important to understand for example he thought that disease played for example which was a preoccupation of course in the ancient world must be caused not by the gods shooting mysterious things that you because to punish you for one crime or another but by invisible agents invisible substances atomic substances in the air that were entering you as he didn't have the term are term that the virus or infectious disease but have effectively the idea that they would and we could understand that he thought just as you could understand thunder and lightning cocaine doses over the was a great believer in most of his excavation so make any sense or say longer than he was a great believer in the idea that you could come up with a scientific explanation for things of that since he thought you could actually as a human being understand a great deal about the universe he thought on the other hand that most of what people thought was the explanation of things having to do with schemes have with the gods or demons were delusional and what you said a second ago i was actually true that some people thought it was liberating to think that for example lucretius thought that you had a soul but he thought that the soul is made up of atoms for your body was made up of atoms and it would come apart and you came apart and therefore the idea that there was to be an afterlife but you could be punished or rewarded was ridiculous that the stories of people rolling rocks up the hill it is the specific sisyphus in the underworld of tantalus trying to reach for something to drink that these were ridiculous ideas to frighten people that is what methods was liberating but a contemporary lucretius cicero said in response to this very idea of epicureanism me said look that only superstitious old people believe in those stories about the rocks in the first after the in the afterlife with lucretius and appears the saying is that there is no afterlife and cicero said effect that's the good news is that but though it of course you're actually right people that look all know one running for office high office in the united states and i daresay in canada could run on all of the principals in lucretius there they would seem to people unbearably bleak but he understood them not to be unbearably bleak but to be liberating for you to face what you need to face to be a free human being liberating and beautiful finds them absolutely stunningly attractive and that that's it one of the things he did strange things he did lucretius was to put all of this philosophy into absolutely magnificent poetry which was not a an obvious thing to do is master tomas epicurus wrote in prose and actually expressed great disdain for poetry i spit on poetry is one of effusive surviving sayings of epicurus he thought that his theory should be put in very clear ordinary prose lucretius put it in magnificent poetry why why in part at least for the reason you just said which is that he finds anyone see you to find this idea of the universe incredibly beautiful even things that are frightening thunder and lightning even at the end of the poem the terrible idea of a plate in the and in the city 's imagined matters not welcome defining a way of getting it poetic form.
If you go to google but in the put you back in the string you do it yourself in the book he described very movingly your your relationship with your mother and how your mother spent all of her life will like that you knew her being terrified about dying this this despite the fact that she lived into her nicely so it was a long-term fascination and fear of death out yet how does that factor into the way you responded to lucretius everyone comes that the things that they care about through with their own roots and my roots in this case was as i write through my upbringing which was.
A wonderful one in many ways i had a wonderful loving mother and father but my mother was in the grip herself all their life shortly saw the life that i knew were a terrible fear of death she lost the younger sister at six years old my mother was just a few years older to strep throat the time that the year before penicillin was introduced and would've taken care of this that quite easily but her lovely sister died and my mother felt that the pain of this for her entire life and it seems to instilled in my mother a sometimes unbearable fear of death and fear for own talking so i grew up with is a writer don't don't want to represent myself as a suffering soul i wasn't quite happy soul and them now but i grew up in a house that was painfully in the grip of this anxiety that my mother had that about herself she she had as she imagined that the terrible frailty she thought she was going succumb to probably a heart attack or stroke she would stop when she walked a few steps you wouldn't allow herself to run she would have me touch her neck to feel the throbbing vein in it she would embrace me when she was going off for a while i was going off for while as if this was our last farewell so i had a lot of love from mike i says it with the verdi was reflected a lot of operatic farewells in much other than and of course it was painful i love my mother and care about her and worried about her is she worried about herself and when i read lucretius for the first time i felt a great week of this lifting of increases is very powerful about why you absolutely must not should not do not have to fear death why you can be freed from the sphere he focuses on the liberation from the fear of death of of punishment in the afterlife but that wasn't what my mother was wearing about it was extinction that she was worried about but increases is a great poet about being able to face extinction disappearance we formation and something else and for me that voice spoke and still speaks very very powerfully to me would it work for your mother did you ever shared lucretia oh i don't think so paul i think i think it is i didn't try the case may be i was a fool not to but i was too old baby when it came to me to try i was already away and out of the orbit of my household i suspect.
My mother had to struggle with his without this consolation if it is a consolation i think she would've found this account she would been probably the sister of missing from this account to bleak for her but for me it was at least at the as a young man reading this it was freeing and now that i'm not a young man i still find it free i don't welcome the prospect of my dissolution so it's not as if i'm looking forward to it but i don't feel it waiting for me and that i don't has to do with with the fact that this vision of things spoke to me so powerfully you find it liberating you also find it important intellectually important in the and this is one of the basic pcs out of your book swerve on if this is this kind of thinking helped to create the modern world i believe describes it sounds completely muttered software but but what caused the change how was instrumental in bringing us out of those dark ages and into modernity but certainly wasn't instrumental in an instantaneous way and as i said still isn't set because was still arguing about these principles are popular public culture even if our scientists are arguing about many of them when it came back into the world pledger bartolini found the poem in fourteen seventeen euros fifty centuries so in fourteen seventeen to him grace any of these principles to say oh i think the universe is made up of atoms and void and nothing else i think that the universe has no creator and designer i think that everything came into being because of the random swerve from atoms to say these things would've granted you is either insane or wicked or both and would probably lead to a exceedingly early demise that so perhaps not at the top of of of higher burning logs to create exactly is so as you can imagine no one virtually no one in portugal's world in the fifteen century in the boardroom itself lived very long like no one including a joke embraced these propositions and eighty direct way immediately and fascinatingly to me quite thrillingly what you have is people interested in the poem initially as they see immediately it's incredibly beautiful poem so it turns out in this case that it's poetry it's artistic power is not simply a form of decoration it turns out to be essential to the survival of the work and to its that spread because initially it wasn't because the idea seemed copperheads about the people but because it's beauty was apparent that the work began to circulate first in florence in circles of these humanists and then beyond this the immediate circles of florence once the work passed from manuscript that were the manuscripts to print in the later part of the of the fifteenth century the copies began to spread but even then of course they wouldn't the ideas wouldn't embrace what you get is first of all artists feeling something powerful and we started our conversation talking about this the artistic power that opening the vision of venus and we know at least one person who responded in minsky powerfully to the vision and that is something botticelli the great florentine painter because botticelli 's great paint the primavera and his birth of venus are signs of the reception of lucretius 's palm beach circulation once again after a more than a thousand year absence in the world but think about that and about the fact that some of the greatest painting in the west the greatest paint and we know surges up from the recovery long before people can articulate the ideas from artists intuiting something immensely powerful in this work and in the late sixties century you get finally someone like giordano bruno great dominican philosopher says yes these ideas are in my way of thinking reading us to the truth that there must be more than one world at the earth is not the center of the universe that the soul is not immortal but and so forth and so on and bruno was earned at stake for space to become safe really tilt even knew and had to be very careful galileo certainly had to be very careful but even later isaac newton had to be careful about how much of this he could articulate zone it takes really hundreds of years before the ideas fully percolate into the public view it's just too dangerous but these names are listing are all people who were influenced by lucretius absolutely none more than the great philosopher of the late sixty 's and shriek that i'm sure the montaigne the person who would affect thinks most deeply about what is to be a human being speaking about himself and about what one uses a creature but then not just montaigne who holds lucretius all the time and success to them but lots of other figures early scientists like galileo and duke early philosophers begin to see as spinoza died since descartes guys as hobbes does not want to sign on to all the propositions but begin to see that you have to grapple with them you also wear the hat of the great shakespearean scholar talk for a while about the influence of of lucretius on with shakespeare the influence of it exists at all would the fugitive difficult to find and certainly difficult to prove we don't know whether shakespeare had actually sat down and read lucretius we know that his friend and colleague rival and johnson had a copy of lucretius in fact that copies in my university 's library with joss 's handwriting on it and others did in england and other people to change their what is known like john florio the translator of montaigne shakes are certainly did read the shyster may have got some of this via montaigne or from florio or from talking to johnson only may read lucretius that would have been translated into english at that point but chester had sufficient latin to read the poem at in any case there are peculiar signs in these to my was picking up its presence in shakespeare take for example r j percival is a famous and marvelous moment in romans eleven which mercutio has a fantastic speech about queen mab murphy remember the speech absolute at the way in which you dream of fantasies that you have well it's very difficult to read that speech after reading lucretius and not think that shakespeare had been inspired by lucretius was the creatures has an account of the way fantasies work that is it even us in the succession of moving from one occupation to another that is very close to what you expect us with mercutio screen that speech but then even more deeply than that in r j shakespeare takes stories he so often does this been in circulation as of the versions and all those other versions the italian versions the chase was drawing upon and then the english adaptation of those italian versions focus on romeo juliet 's prospects for an afterlife together possessed the characteristic of the story and its characters have lots of these love stories r j dye in this earth but they anticipate that in the next world they will be united and shakespeare takes that out and throws it away he insists that romeo juliet 's life is in this world and that what will happen when that life that ends is that they'll spend the rest of time until a decay in a tool but there is no imagined afterlife in which the social i did not which he takes out those elements that are incompatible with increasing vision and insists instead that this is the world in which whatever will mean for romeo juliet will have its meaning this is the world in which they will have their love and what ends in this world in its but shakespeare there and indeed in much of his work that refuses the imagining of an afterlife is not unique assault actually universally george's pretty does imagine cleopatra have at least ethically better themselves imagine that they will have an afterlife together whether we imagine not but it's very striking that were mutually exclusive and he has many other moments king lear is another great play this kind in which he strips away the prospect of an afterlife and focuses on the that the animals that we are here but therefore campbell that we are in this existence and how do you see this were being worked out in contemporary culture and society but where do you see evidence of lucretia thinking lucretia but increasing poetry and in in the world we live was a say first of all we have lots of difficulty coming to terms with with the whole picture arrived at we are still struggling with how to absorb not simply lucretius but how to absorb what we take to be the nature of things uses term for it now so that darwin is a good case in point not so long after darwin propounded his ideas and of the origin species that they were remarkable set of lectures by so many nintendo in belfast in northern ireland and the cheeks he was a follower of balance and he said i think prophetically that we must find a way of conveying this vision of things which is the truth as simple believe of our existence of the nature of our existence in all the species we must find a way of conveying this to a broad public otherwise they'll respond in fear and rejection he must be able to convey what's exciting apostle about this not only what is alarming were disillusioning about it and we still struggle as we know them as a culture and coming to terms as we live in a world in which our footballers when they throw up a forward pass it succeeds often look up and give thanks as if there was a mysterious god who follows football and enables them to connect with a wide receiver and we must know when some part of her salsa system but we can't live without this set of ideas and after all we are the enlightened ones much of the rest of the world is in the grip of a set of of often quite murderous beliefs about the truth of their dogmas that i think it's still profoundly important to free ourselves from so that's the first to say that said that there's another happier history of some which i write about my book that already in the eighteenth century people who cared about this enlightenment humanist tradition included some of the founders of my own country including thomas jefferson who decided to use the very very surprising and momentous phrase instead of life liberty and property life liberty and the pursuit of happens as the purpose of our union and the pursuit of happiness is an essentially epicurean sessions accretion idea and in fact thomas jefferson owned five copies of lucretius 's poem was a wonderful lap missed loved lucretius wrote about himself as an epicurean so we actually have the smoking gun in this case that at the in the very formation of the idea of the american republic is a core of epicureanism seleucus is alive is alive and well and living all over the world today is alive and well he's it he's in our inheritance from albert einstein who wrote a very nice didn't need increases for his own physics and mathematics but who appreciated what lucretius it done and wrote a very nice introduction to german translation of lucretius he's alive in the inheritors of darwin and he seemed alive in the inheritance of our painting and dance sculpture poetry.
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The bill now heads to the House where it is unclear how they plan to proceed. The Senate passed the Violence Against Women Act, picking up 16 additional Republican support and pas ...
Frank Mugisha
Originally Posted: 02/13/2013 - 10:54am | Type: Magazine Article -
Elizabeth Palmberg Six questions for Frank Mugisha. Bio: Executive director of Sexual Minorities Uganda, ...
Vatican Backtracks On Support for Gay Couples
Originally Posted: 02/08/2013 - 3:46pm | Type: Blog -
A top Vatican official blamed the media for "derailing" his recent remarks on possible legal protections for unmarried couples, while reaffirming his support for British and French bishops who have been vocal ...
February 2013 Sojourners Magazine (Downloadable PDF)
Originally Posted: 02/06/2013 - 4:54pm | Type: Product -
$4.95 COVER The U.S. Warfare State and Evangelical Peacemaking What will it take for evangelicals to make a lasting contribution to peace? ...
January 2013 Sojourners Magazine (Downloadable PDF)
Originally Posted: 02/06/2013 - 4:54pm | Type: Product -
$4.95 COVER Who Would Jesus Execute? Jim Wallis interviews Richard Viguerie, a law-and-order conservative, on the death penalty and prison ...
February 2013 Sojourners Magazine
Originally Posted: 02/06/2013 - 4:19pm | Type: Product -
$4.95 COVER The U.S. Warfare State and Evangelical Peacemaking What will it take for evangelicals to make a lasting contribution to peace? ...
January 2013 Sojourners Magazine
Originally Posted: 02/06/2013 - 3:32pm | Type: Product -
$4.95 COVER Who Would Jesus Execute? Jim Wallis interviews Richard Viguerie, a law-and-order conservative, on the death penalty and prison ...
What Would Dr. King's Fight Be Today?
Originally Posted: 01/28/2013 - 3:22pm | Type: Blog -
As our nation celebrates the legacy of Martin Luther, King Jr., I can't help but wonder what injustices Dr. King would fight against today. As our nation celebrates the legacy o ...
Persecuted Christians
Originally Posted: 01/09/2013 - 11:56am | Type: Blog -
There are over 65 countries where Christians face imprisonment, torture, or death. Open Doors, a non-denominational Christian group that supports persecuted Christians, reminds us ...
Africa Rises, China Falls on Christian Persecution List
Originally Posted: 01/08/2013 - 5:09pm | Type: Blog -
The persecution of Christians "vastly rose" in 2012 as radical Islamists consolidated power in Africa, according to Open Doors, a Christian missionary organization which publishes an annual list of offending n ...
Love in Action on Valentine's Day
Originally Posted: 03/21/2013 - 11:47am | Type: Magazine Article -
Aimee Kang Feb. 14 "One Billion Rising" events aim to end violence against women. TAMAR'S LIFE COUL ...
Church of England OK's (Celibate) Gay Bishops
Originally Posted: 01/07/2013 - 12:48pm | Type: Blog -
The Church of England on Jan. 4 confirmed that it has dropped its prohibition on gay clergy in civil partnerships becoming bishops — but only if they agree to remain celibate. C ...
Rep. John Lewis' wife, Lillian, dies
Originally Posted: 01/03/2013 - 1:06pm | Type: Blog -
Rep. John Lewis' wife, Lillian, dies. Amidst the jubilation of the new year and a long awaited solution to the fiscal cliff crisis lies sad news: Lillian Miles Lewis, the wife o ...
Freedom Tastes Like Hummus
Originally Posted: 12/26/2012 - 11:39am | Type: Blog -
their perspectives. Watching a survivor taste hummus for the first time brought so much joy to me. In a room of 25 ...
Getting Children Out of Work and Into School
Originally Posted: 12/19/2012 - 4:02pm | Type: Blog -
Children! Forced slave labor, some of them as young as 8 years old, imprisoned, beaten, and required to make decorations intended celebrate the birth of the savior of the world. B ...
September-October 2012
Originally Posted: 12/19/2012 - 3:16pm | Type: Magazine Issue -
September, 2012 - October, 2012 What About Me? Why people of faith should care about public education (and what they can do about ...
Gender Balancing Our World: What Can You Do?
Originally Posted: 12/18/2012 - 12:26pm | Type: Blog -
How strange it is that Christmas carols can make me want both to buy an iPhone 5 and a Mac Airbook and in the same moment want to save the world? I admit that I keep Santa's Amazon elves very busy this time of ...
Parliament Bars Church of England from Hosting Gay Weddings
Originally Posted: 12/12/2012 - 11:38am | Type: Blog -
The British government unveiled a proposal on Tuesday that excludes the Church of England and the Church in Wales from planned legislation to allow same-sex couples to marry in churches. ...
We Aren't At Their Mercy As Much As They (or We) Think
Originally Posted: 12/11/2012 - 4:00pm | Type: Blog -
While encouraging to American workers, the subtext of Apple's announcement was clear: Apple will do whatever is best for Apple. If you want a sleek iPhone or iPad for Christmas, you'll have to deal w ...
A New Hymn for Human Rights Day
Originally Posted: 12/10/2012 - 10:04am | Type: Blog -
Exodus 5:1-20; Nehemiah 5:1-13; Psalm 82:1-4; Proverbs 4:1-27; Isaiah 58:1-12; 65:17-25; Amos 5:21-24; Micah 4:1-5; 6:6-8; Matthew 25:31-46; Mark 12:28-34; John 3:16-17; Acts 10:34-36; Galatians 3:26-29; ... creation care , economic justice , Matthew 25/disaster relief , immigration , ...
Tutu Urges Uganda to Drop Bid to Jail Gays and Lesbians
Originally Posted: 12/06/2012 - 11:19am | Type: Blog -
Nobel Laureate Archbishop Desmond Tutu on Tuesday urged Uganda to scrap a controversial draft law that would send gays and lesbians to jail and, some say, put them at risk of the death penalty. ...
Anglicans Vow to Vote Again on Allowing Women Bishops
Originally Posted: 11/30/2012 - 4:04pm | Type: Blog -
The Church of England plans to rush through legislation to consecrate women bishops after last week's surprising defeat at the church's General Synod in London. CANTERBURY, ...
Jim Wallis: Fight Against AIDS 'Starts With Me'
Originally Posted: 11/28/2012 - 2:07pm | Type: Blog -
The ONE Campaign — an international nonprofit focused on global health and poverty issues — today launched its "It Starts With Me" video campaign. Sojourners President ...
Free-Speech Fundamentalism
Originally Posted: 11/08/2012 - 11:03am | Type: Magazine Article -
Danny Duncan Collum Should America reconsider our open market in bigoted ideas? DOES THE RIGHT to free speech ...
A Shameful Legacy
Originally Posted: 11/08/2012 - 11:33am | Type: Magazine Article -
Elaine Enns Canadian churches repent for running Indian Residential Schools. A TRADITIONAL whale-oil lamp is ...
The Gospel: The Cure For Human Trafficking
Originally Posted: 11/02/2012 - 12:49pm | Type: Blog -
is that on Sept. 25, the president took notice of the disease that affects 17,500 American people each day. ...