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Monday, December 1, 2008
Small Change
First, I saw a female comic on stage and thought, "Blimey, she's tiny! Really small. It must be quite odd being that small". Then later, I met her and realised we were the same height. It started me wondering whether people were surprised at my smallness.
Next, I bought some weighing scales. Not just any weighing scales, though: these did everything except answer the door, and you could probably program them to do that, though the person at the door might be a bit disconcerted. They told you your muscle mass, water content, body fat and BMI - but they didn't tell you what these amounts meant.
So I had to Google up charts for all these categories, entering my height and weight to see if I was healthy. And, in the process, I discovered that I am the height of your average 13-year-old. Yes, 13-year-old. I am, literally, 13 Going On 30. I'm not a grown-up, I'm a grown-not-enough.
Lastly, the scales featured a button with a bone on it, and I asked my friend what this was for.
"Oh," he said airily, "that's for weighing your dog".
I believed him until I read the instruction page called "measuring your bone density".
37 comments:
- Derek_M said...
Nan (4'8", makes a great chin-rest)
Lulz....that is small.
I'm on the other end of this. The last time my height was measured I was between 6'3" and 6'4" (depending on my chiropractor I guess).
In a world designed for 5'9" people, this makes things uncomfortable. My feet hang off the end of beds, my head touches the ceiling of a lot of cars, and I routinely crack my skull on lights that hang from the ceiling.
Add to this that I wear size 14 or 15 shoes and that my feet ALWAYS get in the way and you've got a decent picture of what a goofy dude I am.
On a serious note, being that small you should keep a close eye on your bone density and hopefully you are mindful of osteopenia and osteoporosis. I used to think it was only for old people to worry about but I have osteopenia and I'm 23. I had an infection which wasn't found for years and robbed my body of nutrients while I was growing and left me with low bone mass. - December 1, 2008 at 9:16 PM
You look taller on the TV.
- December 1, 2008 at 9:27 PM
- Josh said...
I remember when a pair of scales answered the door, I said: "can I come in or should I weight here"
- December 1, 2008 at 10:38 PM
- Catie Wilkins said...
I would have totally believed the dog weighing, but I am very gullible. Who was the small comic?
x - December 1, 2008 at 10:56 PM
- Kia said...
> Ariane
I laughed out loud at the 'dog weighing' thing.
As a fellow 5'2"er, I have to say people probably are surprised by our size (or lack of). I've had friends describe me as "the little one" and even people saying "You're so little" when they meet me. I haven't quite figured out how to respond to that. - December 2, 2008 at 12:46 PM
- Phil Ward said...
"...for weighing your dog"! Along with answering the door (nice gag, Josh, you should run that one past a comedy writer), I wonder if the scales could be programmed to measure gullibility? Having said that, it's a well known fact (among tall men) that gullibility is inversely proportional to height and hits a tipping point (ok so I bought the Gladwell book yesterday) at, ohh, about five, two and a half".
Of course the issue we're all skirting around here is this. Why, Ariane, did you buy a set of high-tech scales? Perhaps owning scales was the one piece of "advice" you could remember from the lost Anthea Turner DVD? I think we should be told. - December 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM
- Brother Tobias said...
Small is environmentally sound. Less food, less space, less fuel, less road wear, less lycra. You could sell carbon credits to larger friends. You are the future.
- December 2, 2008 at 1:45 PM
- Ariane said...
Derek: Blimey, you're a tall man! (Not as tall as regular commenter Graham though, who comes in at a neck-stretching giraffe-esque 6'5").
Sorry to hear about your osteopenia - my Mum has osteoporosis so I'll definitely be careful re. my bones. By the way, when you said you had size 14/15 feet, I thought "Those are ginormous! Those are like dinosaur feet!" before realising that you're in the US and you're talking about a UK size 12/13...
Slurper: Thank you. Telly can be misleading, though I believe the camera adds weight too.
Josh: Ka-boom-tsch!
Catie: You and me both, kid. The comic was Lucy Porter, who was wearing slight heels so is in fact shorter than me, but the story still stands.
Kia: Yes - and you're even slighter than me! 7 stone if I recall? There was a woman at My Family who used to call me "little one" and pat me on the head. (She wasn't much taller than me, so maybe she did it to feel tall?)
Phil: Thanks for the laugh, I needed that. I bought the scales because I thought I'd put on weight. It turned out I hadn't, so they made me feel happy. That along with the dog-weighing facility has got to be worth £50...
Tobias: That's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day! Admittedly, no one's said anything to me all day, but that's no less true because of it. - December 2, 2008 at 1:55 PM
- Graham said...
It's interesting that you considered Lucy Porter to be very small. I often feel the same thing in reverse - I'll see someone in the street and think 'What a lanky git!' only to pass them and find that I'm taller. What does that make me?
Giraffe-esque, apprarently. - December 2, 2008 at 11:26 PM
- Dave said...
I have just confused Lucy Porter with Dawn Porter, and thought " I never realised she was THRAT small". I now realise that she isn't.
- December 3, 2008 at 2:10 PM
I always wonder whether you five-twoers and your diminutive kindred are looking up my nose. In my head, though I know it faintly ridiculous, shorter people see me like the a Borrower would. Well... a giant Borrower maybe... something to that order - hmm... yeah.
Small is good; nose hairs, 'bats', less so.
Isn't going on the scales just a way of confirming in numbers what you're already looking at? Weighing oneself is a dangerous phenomena. - December 4, 2008 at 2:24 AM
- Ariane said...
Graham: Come on, you know the giraffe is my favourite animal. It's the animal I always use in analogies. You can't get "higher" praise than that, surely...?
Dave: Your fingers have just invented a new word. I think "thrat" should be used when you need to say "that" really strongly, for proper emphasis.
Anonymous: On the contrary, nose hair is very good. I won't go into why because you might be eating breakfast, but it really does serve a valuable purpose. It's okay from an aesthetic viewpoint too, as people whose noses I can look up are mainly men, who are meant to have a nose hair (sadly women aren't allowed the luxury, even though we do). Feel better now? - December 4, 2008 at 11:31 AM
- Helen McCookerybook said...
Hi Ariane! Believe it or not, I used to teach you at the University of Westminster (not under this name of course).
Glad to see you are doing so well and have kept your wit!
H McC
:) - December 4, 2008 at 11:50 AM
- Ariane said...
Hello again Helen! I remember you well - you were a great teacher! Though I'd have loved to have had a Mrs McCookerybook, I don't think your time teaching would have been as fun...
Many thanks for the kind comment, and I'll look at your blog now. - December 4, 2008 at 12:13 PM
- Dave said...
I feel a complete twrat.
- December 4, 2008 at 3:14 PM
I am suitably reassured, thankyou.
- December 4, 2008 at 3:29 PM
Suddenly my name has become case sensitive, this is an exciting turn of events within your little blogging universe.
(Wasn't being willfully Anonymous before, it wasn't my nose hair shame or anything, just forgot the name box.) - December 4, 2008 at 3:38 PM
- Ariane said...
Stuart: Thank you. Do I know you in real life, or do I just know that you are (a) tall and (b) have nose hair?
Dave: So you shrould! - December 4, 2008 at 3:40 PM
I went out with a young lady for 2 years who was 5ft tall. When we split up she told me she was actually 4ft 11 and had lied. I still know not how I should have responded...and did I actually make her shrink but she did not want me to feel bad?
I never knew that extra inch was so important. - December 4, 2008 at 8:43 PM
- Derek_M said...
Sorry to hear about your osteopenia - my Mum has osteoporosis so I'll definitely be careful re. my bones. By the way, when you said you had size 14/15 feet, I thought "Those are ginormous! Those are like dinosaur feet!" before realising that you're in the US and you're talking about a UK size 12/13...
I wish your mum well. The women in my family have had trouble with it and I know that it caused them a lot of pain, especially my great grandmother who developed a bad hump in her back.
Plus, you have a very obvious reason for fighting it Ariane, it makes you shorter.
Out of curiosity I checked my sneakers for the size and they are size 15 in the US and size 14 1/2 in the UK. So, sadly, I do have clown feet across the pond as well. - December 4, 2008 at 9:23 PM
No, I don't know you, I meant only that my Anonymous posting was anomalous to my usual, named posts. Should I be accounting for myself in some way? I feel as though I should be accounting for myself :)
- December 6, 2008 at 1:42 AM
- MJB said...
Ariane, I think your mother and Nan would have appreciated the female table tennis legend, Deng Yaping. This Chinese superstar was a very lanky 4'11"!
- December 6, 2008 at 6:32 PM
- Muhamad Lodhi said...
I like what my mother comes up with; twenty-odd years ago she told me that consciousness is not constrained by my height or my weight (or even one's colour). My mum is only 5'4" tall, so, I can guess why she'd come up with something like that. :-)
Anyhow, what can be discerned from your writing is that there's something beautiful within you [oh darn, i think i might sound like a hippy]. So far, the manifestation of this inner beauty hasn't been hindered by your height. Keep it so...please...and please don't torture yourself with high heels. - December 6, 2008 at 10:31 PM
- KJB said...
Evidently, good things come in small packages. :-P I have no idea what height I am - I think it's somewhere between 5'3'' and 5'4''... or it's the latter... I can't believe I'm taller than you! How bizarre.
I thought you were 5'7'' for some reason. No idea why that figure in particular!
I second Muhamad - I hope you are not part of the 6-Inch-High Club. My sister is 5'8'' and she loves skyscrapers! Madness. - December 6, 2008 at 11:22 PM
- Ariane said...
Thom: I'm not going to stoop to innuendo about inches (I'm 5'2", I don't need to stoop - ba-boom!) But your ladyfriend probably thought 4'11" sounded too small, much like the man who once left me a voicemail explaining how to recognise him, and announced, "I'm six foot six. No, forget that - I'm six foot five. Six foot six sounds too scary!"
Derek M: Thanks a lot. Sorry to hear about your great-grandmother. And you don't have clown feet, I was only joking (I feel terrible now!)
Stuart: You need to account neither for your nose hair, nor your height, nor your anonymity/not knowing me in real life. I just happen to know a few Stuarts, and wondered whether you were one of them. I Am Not Holding You To Account!
MJB: Thanks for your comment. Deng Yaping sounds fantastic, not least because of her anagrammatic name.
Muhamad: You are lovely, and I like what your mother said too. My (slightly too strident) views on high heels can be found here:
... though I do wear them on occasion, mainly because I tend to date tall men and it's nice not to always be looking at their armpits.
KJB: Many thanks. I definitely thought you were taller than me! Maybe you thought I was taller because I'm older? - December 7, 2008 at 4:44 PM
Oh... I quite want to now. Can we not pretend that I have, and that, if not satisfactory to you, I was at least to myself? Is that a satisfying solution? Maybe I should tell you if it was a satisfying solution...
Multiple Stuarts, naturally! I had thought this: I know there are more. - December 7, 2008 at 9:22 PM
- Sunny said...
Honestly, you don't look that short or small... I'm pretty sure I didn't think that the other day. Hmmmm...
- December 7, 2008 at 11:20 PM
- Derek_M said...
I'm getting a lot of entertainment out of this comment section.
First I find a hilarious little cartoon on Muhamad Lodhi's blog about "Conventional Logic" vs. "Religious Logic", which I will save and perhaps do a blog entry on.
Now I'm reading KJB's blog and I don't know what to say. This is EPIC ranting if I have ever seen it! I was planning on writing an entry on feminism (of which I consider myself one) but I may reconsider it in the fear that KJB might stumble upon it (I'm kidding...sort of). :D
BTW Ariane, there is no reason to feel bad. I make fun of my clown shoes all the time. Everybody I know has some nickname for me related to my feet. I could have been a Hobbit in LOTR with no modifications (other than the hair). - December 8, 2008 at 5:30 AM
- Derek_M said...
Correction, I meant to say that I consider myself a feminist. lol
- December 8, 2008 at 7:55 AM
- Brother Tobias said...
How odd that you know my cousin (Helen McC.) It's a small blogosphere.
- December 9, 2008 at 2:14 PM
- Ariane said...
Stuart: It was very satisfying, and you're the only Stuart who counts. (Is that any good?)
Sunny: I can't be that hulking, or I'd have crushed you! Er, when you lifted me up for the group photo, I mean. Yes.
Derek: I'm glad you're enjoying it, and no, I didn't think you considered yourself an entry on feminism! KJB is very cool by the way so don't be scared.
Brother Tobias: That is strange! London is relatively small isn't it? Often I click on a new friend's Facebook page to find that we already have several friends in common. - December 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM
- Derek_M said...
That little cartoon I found on Muhamad's page inspired me this morning so I wrote a piece on it. I think I'll go ahead and do feminism next but I'm going to read more of KJB's stuff (and others) before jumping in. This blogging stuff gets addictive as a creative outlet.
I hope you are feeling better and beating the flu. You must be tougher than me if you are getting on the computer and functioning in any capacity while having it. - December 9, 2008 at 5:23 PM
You make it hard for me to disagree, and so I won't :)
- December 10, 2008 at 1:35 AM
- butterflywings said...
LOL. I am only 4'11 - and that's REALLY 4'11. I often say 5ft. It just sounds better.
Was talking to a colleague the other day, she is also tiny and I had been thinking 'she's tiny'. She said she is 5ft (as did I) so in fact she is probably the same height as me. I do wear heels though (sorry) and she doesn't, so can't be blamed for thinking I was taller.
LOL at weighing dogs! I don't own scales, too depressing. - December 13, 2008 at 6:18 PM
- Ariane said...
Blimey, ButterflyWings - you truly are tiny, and I feel like a fraud now! I'm nothing special in the small stakes. Do you ever think we should get cheaper clothes just because there's so much less material involved? Or am I just being 'materialistic'? (ba-dum-tsch).
- December 14, 2008 at 11:43 AM
Like Butterflywings, I am also 4'11" and often say I'm 5' - sounds better and doesn't make me sound like a dwarf!
I once complained to a friend about how I looked like "such a midget" and her response was (with a straight face), "are you an actual midget?"
I often get people patting me on the head/using me as an arm rest or comments such as "come on, stand up" when I am standing and so on. I just let those comments go over my head. - December 16, 2008 at 1:52 PM
- KJB said...
Lol! I am reading this after very long. I'm not much taller than you, Ariane!
I can't believe somebody's reading my blog! - December 22, 2008 at 12:36 PM


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At the end of January while contemplating if and how I would return, I suffered an immense personal loss.
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- genevieve said...
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Sigrid, I was so sorry to read this post and to hear about the sad thing that has obviously happened in your life. I want to say 'I hope that you're ok', which always feels a bit empty when someone clearly isn't, but still... i really do hope you are doing ok. I am sure you will make the right decision about what to do with this lovely space of yours. I always enjoy your posts.
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- Sigrid said...
I want to thank you all for your very kind words. It is heartwarming to know you are out there and I really appreciate you taking the time to visit this space. I have missed being here, but in life sometimes pauses are necessary to get to the next place.
I humbly thank you,
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I am truly saddened to hear of this. I am sorry for your loss and hope you can move on with better times ahead.
Regardless of whether you continue the blog, I am thankful for it while it lasted. - February 9, 2010 at 10:23 PM
- Sigrid said...
thank you for the nice words Velouria, I appreciate it ~ truly.
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I am so sorry for your loss, Sigrid. Sending a giant hug your way.
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Chelsea ~ thank you for stopping by and your very kind words. it really means a lot to me.
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- Sigrid said...
thanks for stopping by Snak Shak! I think you know I popped by your blog ~ interesting local scoops. Glad you enjoyed my space, and thank you for your kind comments. I'm still pondering things inside and outside this space and appreciate everyone's kindness. Ride on...
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Thanks for the help! Does this look any better? I bought a backdrop off amazon. Do you think i should bring the black down more?
Much better! The fadingcould be higher or lower, atthis height it creates a line in the pots waist that might be bad for the experience of the pot. Personally I would like to se a soft soft shadow and maybe the camera a little heigher so that the rim is less a single line. Small changes so they might not make it apperently better. -
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Woody Sheep, on 27 June 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:
Hi. You are not bisque firing hot enough. I use the Laguna B-mix and I had a similar problem, but it was with excessive pinholing. I finally solved it by bisque firing to cone 3 and glazing at Cone 6. (Yes, this cone 10 clay works great at Cone 6) It seems excessive, but it tested all the way from cone 05 up and finally got the pin holes to stop at bisque cone 3.
Sounds like you got a good solution. I can surly see why this would be and many clays have this problem more or less. If the pinholes appear directly after glazing you have a solution but if they appear first during the firing an option could be to fire the glaze kiln slower in the cone 05-1 range to fire out the organic material creating the holes.
With the crawling it really sounds like the oversaturation is the problem. I have that problem on raw glazed pots if the glaze if applied to soon. Lowering the amount of water in the glaze and bisquing higher is a option if the glaze doesn't become to thick. Another option is to bisque lower if the pieces doesn't fall apart when glazing. -
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Wednesday, April 18, 2012
Blogging Strike?... + An Outfit.
I've been so busy/living life lately,that I haven't really been focused on outfits.
That's okay,right!?
I want to enjoy my real life too. Sometimes,blogging takes over my mind and I don't like it. I want to focus on other things too. The people in my life are important to me,and I want to spend time with them... I've been working... studying for finals... the whole she bang.
I hope people understand. Don't get me wrong,I'm not going to stop blogging.
But things might be slow here for a while.
Anyways,at least I have an outfit from a month ago to post... (: enjoy..
This lace shirt is so perfect to layer over my pencil skirts!
I love this combination.
^This is me trying to play it cool when someone walked past. HAHA. Embarrassing.
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Cute blog :) read about you on Gentri Lee.
Follow back if you get a chance :) From Cupcakes With Love xi found your blog on gentri's blogger of the week post. you are too cute! i loveeee this outfit SO much.
its crazy how blogging can take over your mind... right? i have recently decided to become more organized with my blogging schedule.. i don't want everything to be pre-determined, of course... but i figure if i can dedicate a few hours in a week {probably on a sunday} to plan out my posts and have kind of an outline, then i won't spend as much time sitting in front of the computer and i can actually spend time with the hubs and such.
i am following now, and do hope that you continue to post because i definitely want to read :)
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With BOps II coming out tonight are you still going to be jumping on MW3 from time to time or are you going to shelf it for a while?
It's already pretty much been shelved by myself and a majority of those I play with. For me Boarderlands II marked the end of MW3. I have played a few rounds here and there, but once Halo came out, there was literally nobody on FL that was playing this game.
I suspect that I might not get back on this game for a very long time. I'd like to say that I will miss it, but I think I would be lying.
It'll sit on the shelf until the challenges and ops start back up. My clan wants to finish getting to lvl 50 and we only need 5.5 levels to get there. The rest of my time will be spent on BO2. My only regret is that they waited so long to release the last DLC for the PS3. I've really enjoyed playing those maps and a month just wasn't enough time to enjoy them properly before BO2 came out. I actually got my first and likely to be my only MOAB on Parish over the weekend in the only match that I played that day where I didn't lag up. Now I can move on to BO2 without feeling like I missed out on part of MW3.
I feel like somehow i will still come back MW3 and play it. Like what i did with Black Ops and MW2... It really depends on the output of the game on PC. Gosh the first Black Ops on PC was horrible.
After now playing BO2, I am almost certain I'll be coming back....my goodness, the sounds in that game are horrible and generic as hell, all the weapons sound almost identical, in mw3 you hear a gun firing you know exactly what it is, and In BO2 I have already been, commando knife lunged, quickscoped, had someone spawn 10 feet behind me, been killed around corners, been 'insta killed', the hitmarker routine is lacking to say the least, no sound at all that I am aware of, spent 10 minutes sitting in pregame lobby with 12 players reading a screen saying waiting on more players to join (12 man game mode!!), and so on and so forth.....MW3 is looking better at the moment


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The tangents are moot.
Set the bar low. Crawl under it.
To get in via TnT, you have to pay a premium entry fee.
I will likely also offer premium entry fees for people who want an assured entry that bypasses any lottery or super-fast registration fill.
All the extra money goes to the parks, of course.
I'm running somewhere tomorrow. It's going to be beautiful. I can't wait.
Poor baby
"run" "to" "eat"
well then.
you are lucky to have a personality such as myself deign to run your little hoopdeedoo.
you should be paying me.
i find the sunshine beckons me to open up the gate and dream and dream ~~robbie williams
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"The most common question from potential entrants is 'I do not know if I can do this' to which I usually answer, 'that's the whole point'.--Paul Charteris, Tarawera Ultramarathon RD.
"They just couldn't believe that somebody would do all that running for no reason."--Forrest Gump
√ Boston Marathon 15 April
√ Big Sur Marathon 28 April
√ Bighorn 50 Mile 15 June
Tahoe Rim Trail 100M 20/21 July
Will they promise not to line up in front then walk 5-across, blocking the road?
Monkey bait.
And shouldn't we call this TiT not T n T?
You say tit. But at monkey, we get a free tat.
Does 'premium entry' signal the end of the FOT program?
Never heard of that program...
...side note: did you know that a synonym for "weighted lottery" is "black box"?
And so it begins.
Yes, I do "run in this." So should you. The weather is never as bad as it seems from behind your office or car window.
How do you keep your feet on the ground, when you know you were born to fly?
break'n three
15 hours later and no one has suggested tit for tat?
tsk tsk.
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I like the FOT program. I hope that it continues...
Speaking of... am I in this year? I mean, I just like to register and give Trent money... then not show up. I think that qualifies as an automatic monkey qualifier.
I have a new plan this year, run 1 mile a day for 25 days prior to the event and then run 1.2 miles the day of the event. Then tap the kegs and drink the beer. And since 95% percent of my run will not be in the park, I'll probably only pay about $5.
A Saucy Wench
I've seen you drink. You need to pony up more than $5
I have become Death, the destroyer of electronic gadgets
"When I got too tired to run anymore I just pretended I wasnt tired and kept running anyway" - dd, age 7
Start selling some Monkey jackets too. Us charity entries like to show off.
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"Every now and then go away, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work your judgment will be surer." - Leonardo Da Vinci
It's been a long time since I've written a column. I think the last one was on Dec. 31 - so right around three months. And in that time, I traveled the state of Montana working, but did manage to take five days for relaxation in Florida. And no, much like my trip to Chattanooga, Tenn., the HDN didn't spring for this. If they are, I'm still waiting for the checks. Still waiting still waiting still waiting.
Anyway, much has happened in that time in the world of sports, both locally and nationally. Don't think for a second that I couldn't have expounded on my opinion on any number of topics. In fact, I had an entire column written about the Randy Moss mooning incident, but I simply didn't have room for it.
With a choice between a nice photo and a lengthier high school basketball preview and Moss' immature antics, I'll take the local coverage without hesitating.
Because that's what our paper is based on - local coverage. That being said, I thought I would use my first column in months to outline my policies regarding the Sports section, because they have recently been called into question.
That's right, I said "my" policies. Obviously, Managing Editor Karen Datko and Publisher Harvey Brock offer their input when it comes to my decisions, but in the end, the responsibility and the choices are mine.
However, those choices come with stipulations, first and foremost being space. We don't have an unlimited number of pages for sports, or in the paper as a whole, each and every day. The amount of advertising sold determines the amount of space available for news and sports. One pays for the other. It's not complicated, nor is it exciting enough to write about. Basically, you won't ever see our sports section growing to four pages daily.
Really, we have to maximize our coverage per page. That's why on Thursdays, Fridays and Mondays in the fall or winter, you will rarely see any national coverage.
From the time I've been here, until the time I leave, the focus will always be on local sports. With ESPN, the Internet and our competitors in Great Falls, national sports for serious fans can be found in other outlets.
So with our focus being on local athletes, it seems that everything should get easier from there. Actually, it gets more difficult. One of the things that I found myself fighting with when I came here, and I find myself fighting with still today, is the extent of our local coverage.
Do we cover everything equally? Do we give 9C schools the same coverage as Havre High? Where does MSU-Northern fit in this? Do we treat our stories like Title IX with equal space and coverage for each? What about younger kids sports such as Little League all-stars, Ice Hawks hockey and junior high sports? Who gets covered in person? And how do we cover all of this effectively without upsetting or alienating parents, athletes and readers?
To this day, I still don't know if I have the answer or the exact formula for all of those questions, except for the last one. The answer to that is: "We can't." At some point, parents, more often than the athletes, will be upset with our coverage. It's a fact. It happens at every newspaper.
We've had our fair share of complaints. It's something that I've grown accustomed to. If you're looking to make friends, you're better off working in a pet store. Honestly, the criticism doesn't bother me. We address it, make sure it is valid, embrace it, try to learn from it and look for improvements that we can make. What else can you do?
This has actually been pretty mild compared to my time in Missoula, where I once criticized a mining protest with the line, "there is no such thing as a stupid protest; just stupid people, who protest in idiotic ways."
Let's just say there was a very large group of nature-loving people who made their anti-Ryan thoughts very public and very loud whenever they saw me.
So criticism aside, and after much thinking and debating, my philosophy when it comes to our sports section is very blunt: "We're not here to build your child's scrapbook. We're here to report the news."
It may seem a little harsh, but it's true. A parent once asked me, "What does it take for my son's name to get in the paper?"
My response: "Either rob a bank, or write the story about it. You're guaranteed to get your name in the paper that way."
Look, just because your child competes in a sport, we can't guarantee their name or picture is going to be in the paper. We'd love to do that, but then we would be nothing more than a glorified scrapbook builders. We cover the games with unbiased perspective and report what is important. We don't favor certain teams or particular athletes. It may not seem like it to some people, but that's what we strive for. I used to joke to people that I disliked all the athletes and sports equally.
Obviously, in our hearts we want to see local teams win because the stories are easier to write and they sell more papers. But, win or lose, we still have to report the story.
To be perfectly honest and somewhat logical, some sports are naturally going to garner more coverage than others. It's not favoritism. It's a fact. And really, it's not decided by us. It's decided by you the readers. We base much of our coverage on what readers want. Consequently, Blue Pony football had more stories than the local slow pitch softball tourney. When 2,000 people show up to watch a game, that is probably the biggest story of the weekend. It's going to accrue a little more coverage.
But this explanation doesn't even pertain to youth and junior high sports. For people who want me or George to cover a game featuring kids younger than 13. It just isn't going to happen, unless its for the national title.
It's not snobbery; it's sense. Sports at that age and level are supposed to be teaching tools. Yes, winning is great. But the whole purpose is to learn about ideas such as sportsmanship, competition and teamwork, not worrying about who scored the most points or touchdowns.
By over-covering those early youth sports, it places an unnecessary emphasis on getting your name in the paper, instead of getting your team's name in the paper. It's doesn't set a good precedent - not for the athletes, but the parents.
If you think I'm kidding, you're mistaken. We receive more phone calls and complaints about so-and-so's kid always being in the paper. Loosely translated: "My kid isn't in as much as someone elses."
That isn't to say that we won't put youth sports in the paper. We've tried to do that as much as possible in as timely fashion as possible. We'll also still continue to preview big tournaments and events for youth sports and run results, if people bring them in. But if you think, I'll have George covering a Little League game and then interview a 12-year-old pitcher about his performance, you might as well check into a little place we like to call reality.
If you think about it, at that age, how important is it to get your name in the paper? For the kid, it's neat. Your mom cuts it out and puts it on the fridge and it's forgotten about an hour later. I'm not sure who it is more important to, the athlete or the parents.
At times, I lean toward the latter. It's cynical, but you'd be surprised how ruthless parents can be when it comes to their children.
Sometimes I believe that the line: "It's only a game" was from a child telling it to an outraged parent. Kids seem to remember that better than adults.
I don't know if explaining why we put in what we put in has helped or hurt our cause. Frankly, I don't care. We've been doing this for more than two years now and that philosophy has developed in that span.
We still want your comments, criticism and suggestions. We take them all with consideration, and at times, a very large grain of salt.
Regardless of what people think, George and I treat this as a local paper with real reporting and legitimate coverage, along with a little fun sprinkled in.
It can be a very entertaining job at times, because, as my parents have found out, it isn't about the money. Speaking of money, I'm still waiting for that check from my trip to Chattanooga. Still waiting ... still waiting ... still waiting.


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Around 2 p.m. on Jan. 6, Dlonze Ruff, 17, of Newberry Arms, Newberry, got into an altercation with another man, according to Newberry Police Captain Kevin Atkins.
During the disagreement Ruff reportedly pulled out a gun and fired several rounds at the other person.
The bullets struck the victim in the upper body and chest area, according to Atkins.
Ruff was arrested and charged with attempted murder and possession of a weapon during the commission of a violent crime. At press time, Ruff was being held at the Newberry County Detention Center.
Atkins says the victim was airlifted to a regional hospital and is recovering from his injuries.


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Azgrut wrote:Everything in italian are thoughts.
Something tells me that that was a typo.
Azgrut wrote:Everything in italian are thoughts.
Daemonwelsh wrote:Also, with the expenditure of motes, I based their advancement on the Egyptian's... They had working electricity after about 2-3 thousand years.
Daemonwelsh wrote:True... Still, base it off the breakdown of that leap, and can I get a set amount of motes for costs?
Daemonwelsh wrote:hmm... I would guess something like 30 motes?
and I was asking for the point value of the race, before the history....
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SYRACUSE -- Syracuse Police plan to add 19 surveillance cameras across the city after the Syracuse Common Council approved the use of a grant to fund the cameras on Monday afternoon.
"We want to put these cameras where they are going to be most effective; we want to put these cameras where people are suffering the most; we want to put these cameras where people need some type of relief," says Syracuse Police Chief Frank Fowler.
To help ease privacy concerns, Chief Fowler says the cameras will not be monitored live and video from them will be erased every two weeks. Anyone wanting to access the video will have to get written approval. Chief Fowler says that while some may not like the cameras, video surveillance is the wave of the future.
"If you go to Rochester, Buffalo, Schenectady, New York City, there are security cameras everywhere right now in New York State. This is the direction our country is going and this is another way to keep the public safe," says Chief Fowler.
Four cameras are planned to be installed on South Avenue and Bellevue Avenue. Six are planned for the area of Midland and Colvin streets. Five cameras are planned for the Central Village area, which includes parts of South State Street and Oakwood Avenue.
Two additional cameras are planned for the 700 and 800 blocks of Butternut Street.
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Posted 21 January 2010 - 07:52 AM
I have a batch file that cleans up any picked directory [removes files with specified extensions]
In XP I had it such that I picked a directory, RMB and chose the action.
The instructions to install this facility were: open any directory tools/ folder options.. /file types/file folder/advanced/new...
In Action type<name facility>, In Application used to perform action browse to location of batch file.
Now in Windows7 these instructions don't seem to apply as stuff is in different places. I can make the facility work by placing the batch file in a directory and running it, but this leaves the batch file to be removed and nothing as easy as it was.
Can anyone point to how to do this?
Posted 21 January 2010 - 09:47 AM
No guarantees of course but, without the contents we can't be sure.
Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:14 AM
As I said, this fully works in XP but not W7.
echo y | del *.crc.*
echo y | del *.log.*
echo y | del *.m_p.*
echo y | del *.ger.*
echo y | del *.inf.*
echo y | del *.lst.*
echo y | del *.log
echo y | del *.plt
echo y | del *.idx
echo y | del *.tst
C:\Program Files\proeWildfire 4.0\bin\purge.bat
Posted 21 January 2010 - 10:46 AM
right click
Posted 21 January 2010 - 03:50 PM
Bat files are long outdated, cmd files were introduced with the Windows NT family.
When using CD the /D switch should really be invoked.
Changing directory to one containing spaces does not require 'double quotes'.
DEL has a built in /Q switch.
The DEL command accepts multiple arguments on one line.
Posted 22 January 2010 - 02:50 AM
Thanks for your input , I gather from your reply that you are thinking about it and will get back to me.
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Posted 23 January 2010 - 09:53 AM
The snippet you posted does not make much sense (to me at least), what is the scope of the CD %1 %2 etc? to get a directory name including spaces?
The DEL command when used in a batch does NOT need for confirmation so the whole point of feeding to it through ECHO a "y" is pointless.
I would write this:
echo y | del *.crc.*
echo y | del *.log.*
echo y | del *.m_p.*
echo y | del *.ger.*
echo y | del *.inf.*
echo y | del *.lst.*
echo y | del *.log
echo y | del *.plt
echo y | del *.idx
echo y | del *.tst
CD /D %* FOR %%? IN ( .crc. .log. .m_p. .ger. .inf. .lst. .log .plt .idx .tst ) DO DEL *%%?*
If I get it right you want to add it to a contextual menu for the object "Folder" or am I mistaken?
I think that on 7 the add a context menu entry in Registry hasn't changed:
Posted 24 January 2010 - 03:48 AM
I'm a newbie with computers at the coding level. The batch file deletes files with those extensions from a picked directory. The code I posted was written by another and when used on my XP machine and it worked through the right context menu.
Now that I've migrated to windows7 the only way I can get this to work is to copy the batch file directly into the directory to be cleaned and double clicking it in explorer. What I couldn't do is to run it through rc menu. So I didn't question the the code as it worked.
I've made a file with your code called clean1.bat and run it and that does the same as my original. Curiously it also works when called clean1.cmd. I guess you'll be able to tell me why that is.
The problem then reverts to where I started, how do I find a painless way to get this into the right context menu for windows7?
Posted 24 January 2010 - 03:58 AM
@="C:\\Program Files\\proeWildfire 4.0\\bin\\purge.bat"
EDIT: I added the extra \\ on purpose, be sure to include them if you edit the .reg file directly.
This post has been edited by MrJinje: 24 January 2010 - 04:45 AM
Posted 24 January 2010 - 08:28 AM
As said on NT based OS .bat or .cmd is the same, .bat is considered "outdated" and .cmsd is advised, this is because NT based systems do execute BOTH .bat and.cmd whilst DOS/9x/Me systems ONLY execute.bat files. Since the syntax can be different it's a form of "security" setting that avoids a batch file created for NT systems to run on 9x/Me ones.
MrJinje has kindly explicited , adapting the procedure to your case, what you should have found by yourself had you read the links I gave you.
Basically in the Registry there are settings for the "riight click" or "context menu" for each "kind" of object, among which the "Folder" one, that can be customized.
What the procedure you described did in XP was simply that of adding this settings in the Registry.
The links I gave you explain the basics and a small program that should replicate the behaviour.
What MrJinje posted is a way to have these settings entered in the Registry by using a .reg file that you can "merge" to the Registry.
Another app is Wassociate:
(though cannot say it works with 7, it's site and help further explain the way this associations work)
A small note:
a batch file by default can "index" only 9 parameters passed to it:
thus should for any reason the folder you have be "nested" in a path with more than 8 spaces, like:
C:\My Programs\whatever main program\the specific program title\data files\main data directory\
the original batch won't work.
By using %* instead you get ALL parameters.
The added /D to the CD command allows to change Drive, without it the original batch will work only if the directory is on current drive.
This post has been edited by jaclaz: 24 January 2010 - 08:35 AM
Posted 25 January 2010 - 02:40 AM
Thanks for your input, I'll have to read up and try to understand this stuff before I continue. I don't want to have started looking for a shortcut and ended with a mess!
Posted 25 January 2010 - 04:42 AM
Below you'll find some code, (it's also zipped up in an attachment just to make sure you don't make copy & paste mistakes).
It is all you need, no additional batch files etc.
Just double click this one and you'll have a new entry in your right click menu, Purge Files.
@ECHO OFF & SETLOCAL SET "STARTKEY=HKCU\Software\Classes\" SET "ENDKEY=\shell\PurgeMe" REG ADD %STARTKEY%Folder%ENDKEY% /VE /D "Purge &Files" /F>NUL REG ADD %STARTKEY%Folder%ENDKEY%\command /VE /T REG_EXPAND_SZ /D^ "%%COMSPEC%% /C PUSHD %%L && DEL *.crc.* *.log.* *.m_p.* *.ger.* *.inf.* *.lst.* *.plt *.idx *.tst" /F>NULBeware, right clicking on the incorrect folder will likely contribute to deleting several important files!
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You may recall http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/9/29/268, wherein I described network device enumeration and naming challenges, and several possible fixes. Of these, Fix #1 (fix the PCI device list to be sorted breadth-first) has been implemented in the kernel, and Fix #3 (system board routing rules) have been implemented on Dell PowerEdge 10G and 11G servers (11G begin selling RSN). However, these have not been completely satisfactory. In particular, it keeps getting harder and harder to route PCI-Express lanes to guarantee the same ordering between a depth-first and breadth-first walk, and it turns out, that isn't sufficient anyhow. Problem: Users expect on-motherboard NICs to be named eth0..ethN. This can be difficult to achieve. Ethernet device names are initially assigned by the kernel, and may be changed by udev or nameif in userspace. The initial name assigned by the kernel is in monotonically increasing order, starting with eth0. In this instance, the enumeration directly leads to an assigned name. Complications: 1) Devices are discovered, and presented to the kernel for name assignment, based on several factors: a) the kernel hotplug mechanism emits events for udev to catch, to load the appropriate driver for a given device. The kernel emits these events in some ordering, tied to the depth-first PCI bus walk. Therefore the order in which userspace catches these events and starts to load a given device driver is tied to the depth-first bus walk. There is no guarantee within PCI-Express hardware topology of any ordering to the discovery of devices. To ease this complication, SMBIOS 2.6 includes a mechanism for BIOS to specify its expected ordering of devices, for naming purposes. Tools such as biosdevname use this information. b) udev may run modprobes in parallel. It guarantees that the events and modprobes are begun in order, but makes no guarantee that one event's modprobe ...
I would classify this as a bug, especially the fact that udev doesn't undo a failed rename, so you end up with ethX_rename. Virtual devices using the same MAC address trigger this reliably unless you add exceptions to the udev rules. You state that it only operates on one device at a time. If that is correct, I'm not sure why the _rename suffix is used at all instead of simply trying to assign the final name, which would avoid this problem. --
This is handled in most cases. Virtual interfaces claiming a configured name and created before the "hardware" interface are not How? The kernel assignes the names and the configured names may conflict. So you possibly can not rename a device to the target name when it's name is already taken. I don't see how to avoid this. Thanks, Kay --
I don't remember the exact circumstances, but I've seen it quite a few Sure, you can't rename it when the name is taken. But what udev apparently does when renaming a device is: - rename eth0 to eth0_rename - rename eth0_rename to eth2 - rename returns -EEXISTS: udev keeps eth0_rename What it could do is: - rename eth0 to eth2 - rename returns -EEXISTS: device at least still has a proper name Alternatively it should unroll the rename and hope that the old name is still free. But I don't see why the _rename step would do any good, assuming only a single device is handled at a time, it can't prevent clashes. --
Any particular reason the MAC addresses are the same? This came up a while ago with the 'dnet' device in the thread "Dave DNET ethernet controller". If the MAC address isn't a UUID for the device, then *what* is? If there isn't one, then certainly udev can't be blamed for getting ordering or names wrong, because there's nothing to use to actually match up the device to a name, uniquely. Note that combinations including bus IDs or device positions in the bus don't work for any type of hotplug case, because you can plug another adapter into the same location but it's a different adapter. Either people want (a) a name assigned to a specific device (which implies a UUID like a MAC address stored on that device somewhere accessible to the driver at plug/boot time), or they want (b) to assign a name to a *position* on the PCI or USB or firewire or whatever bus, or they (c) don't care about this at all. The answer is really 'all of the above'. Most of the people Matt cares about are probably in the (b) camp. But most desktop/laptop users are in the (a) camp because they use hotplug so much. --
> If the MAC address isn't a UUID for the device, then *what* is? MAC is technically per system if desired (eg old Sun boxes) and that is quite valid by IEE802.3. In that case you need MAC + topology. If you are running DECnet your system runs on assigned MAC addresses so you also have to be careful to use the EPROM MAC (if one exists which is I'd argue the fumdamental problem is that I can do this ln -s /dev/sda /dev/thebigdiskunderthefridge but cannot ln -s /dev/eth0 /dev/ethernet/slot0 and the SIOCGIF/SIF BSD style ioctl interface doesn't do pathnames or file handles of network devices. Anyone feel up to putting all the network devices into dev space and fixing the ioctls ;) --
Sometimes (I was referring to virtual devices) there may not be I agree that udev can't do anything useful in that case. I would prefer it it wouldn't even try though instead of messing with the names and leaving a bunch of _rename devices around. Sure, I can add a rule to disable it, but that shouldn't be necessary. Generally, I'm wondering whether it should touch virtual network devices at all since the MAC addresses are often not persistent, sometimes not unique and the name might have already been chosen explicitly by the administrator when creating the device. Currently there are some rules to ignore a couple of known virtual devices types. Are there actually cases where renaming virtual devices is desired? Otherwise a more future-proof way than blacklisting each type individually would be to add some attribute informing udev that the device has no unique key and should be ignored. --
I have seen systems (I think they were Sun boxes) where the _machine_ had a MAC address, and it used that same MAC on all interfaces. this is convienient for some things, but not for others. what's unique and reproducable is the discovery order David Lang --
Or even PCI. /me pats his laptop that reassigns PCI device ids randomly every 3rd or so boot. --
Also bear in mind that a module completing init() does not necessarily mean that the interfaces have been created. If the driver requires firmware, it will call out to userspace, and may not register the interface until well afterwards. One could even construct a pathological case where only a virtual device was registered, and userspace was required to add logical interfaces Well, the obvious fix to this is to make sure the names are always Actually udev handles this by using a temporary name. When renaming eth0->eth1 it actually uses an intermediate name first. This allows it to simultaneously swap eth0<->eth1 since one unblocks the other (actually both unblock each other). There is a failure case where two devices both end up trying to get the same name, in which case one will lock with a "_rename" name. There was an early debate in Ubuntu when we first wrote this code about using later names (eth2, eth3, etc.) but we realised that just hides the problem (and it happens again if you plug in a pccard or something that wants eth2). Since this is always a bug, making the problem visible was a "good While this works for PCI slots, it already doesn't scale to other buses. For example what slot number is the pccard slot? If you have two different pccard devices, would they get assigned the same name (udev currently assigns them different names). Now consider USB. Would the device name change depending on which USB port you plugged it into? Or is USB just a single slot, in which case what happens when you have two USB ethernet devices? The Apple USB Ethernet device in my iPhone is not the USB Wireless adapter I own, both have very different networking configurations. I quite liked the idea of /dev/eth0, then we could just use symlinks. Scott --=20 Scott James Remnant firstname.lastname@example.com
actually biosdevname handles this already, using eth_pccard_X.Y where we would obviously need a solution. eth_usb_{something} perhaps. -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux --
Right, but having biosdevname chase each new bus that comes along sounds iffy. I'd prefer /dev/net/by-name symlinks, if at all possible. But that's a lot of code that I'm not prepared to write. Bill --
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My thoughts on the subject; from someone who is not particularly qualified to have opinions. Reading over your post, I searched for a single sentence describing the problem you're trying to solve. What I came up with was this: Perhaps a little magic in the udev rule that creates the z70_persistent-net-rules file would solve the basic problem. It could sort the nics by mac address when creating the names. It need only run when the z70 file does not exist. I presume this would produce consistent results in most cases and it feels technically feasible; although I am not fully qualified to make that judgment. Rather that put the onus on udev to make the above change Dell could just run a little program at first boot that mungs the z70 file as desired. (It could then force a reboot; I forget if this would be needed.) I imagine Dell boots the boxes once at the factory, but if not then the user has to suffer with a longer boot process at first boot. Because this is driven by Dell, Dell would know exactly what nic has what name. And Dell knows what nics are on the mobo and what are not, and so can control the mac address sort order as desired. The other solution that screams out at me is to ditch those legacy BIOSes and go to something like LinuxBIOS. Again, I'm not really qualified, but it sure feels like there's an answer in this approach. The other point that struck me was that sometimes, it seems, users want persistence in the naming of their network devices and sometimes they want device names based on bus position. The sucky thing is that symlinks and nics don't mix well and so it seems impossible to satisfy both the above requirements at the same time. This is an area that IMHO could be better addressed by the Linux community. Karl <firstname.lastname@example.com> Free Software: "You don't pay back, you pay forward." -- Robert A. Heinlein --
nearly all dell systems running linux in the world were not factory-installed with that os. this isn't something i can simply patch in our factories. it needs to be fixed as far upstream as well, there is no "mac address sort" anywhere. (nor is that really a It's not a BIOS problem. BIOS can inform the OS of what it thinks about hardware location, names, etc. And our PowerEdge (9G and newer) servers do - using SMBIOS 2.6 standard features we added (types 9, 10, and 41) to the specification - exactly to allow such. Now something needs to use that information. That something today is biosdevname, correct. -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux --
I dispute this statement. I have several hundred servers that have the on-motherboard NICs as the last ones. anyone who's been making the assumption you describe will have been running into problems for many years. not everyone uses udev. I compile the nessasary drivers into the kernel this approach causes serious problems in a few cases, including 1. a NIC goes bad and you replace it. now all the configs change 2. you reinstall a box and it's interface names change. David Lang --
I agree it's not a valid assumption. People seem to want two things with names: 1) that devices be named deterministically 2) that the determinism doesn't change on a per-platform or per-configuration-of-a-platform basis. This tends to mean they want the onboard devices named first, then the add-in devices named. But not necessarily. I would hope to have a deterministic naming method that would work for most people by Right. These cases are only deterministic because they start from a known state; change or remove that state, and you're back to non-deterministic. -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux --
From: Matt Domsch <firstname.lastname@example.com> I learned a long time ago that eth0 et al. have zero meaning. If the system firmware folks gave us topology information with respect to these things, we could export something that tools such as NetworkManager, iproute2, etc. could use. For example, if we were told that PCI device "domain:bus:dev:fn" has string label "Onboard Ethernet 0" then we could present that to the user. Changing how the actual network device name is determined is going to have zero traction. So, please, put mapping tables into the ACPI or similar and then programs can go: for_each_network_device(name) { fd = open(name); label = get_system_label(fd, name); present_to_user(label, name); } This "get_system_label()" thing can be an ethtool ioctl, some rtnetlink call, or similar. In the kernel, a generic routine would exist for major bus types to make the mapping translation, and drivers would call these. For PCI it might take the PCI device pointer and try to fish out a string from the ACPI layer. For OpenFirmware we might just simply give the full device path, or a matching device alias name. That's the only model which allows a smooth transition and no major infrastructure changes. I guess it's easier to spew about MAC addresses and other irrelevant topics than try to solve this problem properly. :-) --
What about things like USB network adapters where the topology is not fixed? Presumably we would want to use some sort of unique identifier, and the MAC comes to mind. Of course, then you run into the problem of how to deal with duplicate MACs. Chris --
USB devices do have a serial number field in the descriptors, but that only sometimes gets populated with sensible values. More often than not it's just zeros. But worth checking if the MAC isn't set yet. Dan --
Your wish is my command. DMTF SMBIOS 2.6 specification http://www.dmtf.org/standards/smbios/ contains changes which provide this for PCI devices. Specifically, Type 9 ("System Slots") was extended to include the PCI domain/bus/device/function for each slot. Type 10 ("On Board Devices Information") could not be extended, thus it was deprecated, and new Type 41 ("Onboard Devices Extended Information") was created to be extensible and now includes PCI domain/bus/device/function information. Both Type 9 and Type 41 include a String field which hopefully has a more descriptive value, such as "Onboard Ethernet Broadcom 5808 NIC 1" in the case of some Dell servers. Shipping Dell 10G (and very soon 11G) server BIOS includes this information. biosdevname can use this to report device names. Some HP systems have a vendor-specific SMBIOS extension to provide a While I'd be happy for NetworkManager to present these SMBIOS-provided human-parsable names when available, the names aren't terribly meaningful in a programatic fashion. The users I've encountered are looking for a programatic way to say: The first LOM is my management/admin NIC. The second LOM is my bulk traffic NIC. The first add-in card is my backup NIC. meaning we still need a translation from "how I want to use a NIC" to "which NIC should I plug the cable into". The SMBIOS names don't completely solve this. Hence my desire of having a way to have multiple alternate names for the same interface. One such name would be the full SMBIOS string. Another would be a bus topology name. A third could be a "how do I use it" name. Analogous to devices represented in /dev using symlinks for these other names. I don't care if it's symlinks in /dev or some other mechanism. Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux --
nm-applet could support some sort of "named" adapters, though I'd rather have this done with udev rules (or something like that) so that the NIC's common name would be consistent in both the CLI and in the GUI. The only reason nm-applet does what it does now (pulling VID/PID and dropping stupid words like "Corporation") is so the user has *some* clue what NIC they are about to touch; using "eth0" and "eth1" and "eth2" isn't very helpful. But the distinction between "Intel Gigabit Ethernet" and "D-Link 10/100 USB Adapter" is quite a bit easier to grasp at a glance. --
ACPI added _PLD (Physical Device Location) back in 3.0, ISTR. However, searching my archives, I have yet to see a single instance of its use in the field. ACPI also supplies the slot number stuff, which is exported via the existing pci_slot driver. cheers, Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center --
David, would you be opposed to the additional device names being done as device nodes in userspace, as several people suggested? /sys/devices/*/net/ifindex already exports the netlink device index. It would be trivial to add a /sys/devices/*/net/dev file, with <major>:<minor> for a device, where <minor> = ifindex. Then udev could then maintain /dev/net/by-{mac,path,...} as symlinks to /dev/net/$kernelname. Tools such as iproute's 'ip' could then be extended to look up their 'dev' argument by /dev path, resolve the symlink to name, get the device node, and open the socket with the minor number / index (as normal). Thanks, Matt -- Matt Domsch Linux Technology Strategist, Dell Office of the CTO linux.dell.com & www.dell.com/linux --
My idea as a user, having configured some servers: with kernel point of view, there should be no preference. If users the problem here is the monotonic increasing order. I never rename ethX back to the monotonic ethX numbering. IMHO, renaming eth0 to eth1 sounds redundant. I rename ethx to lan, wan, wlan, remote, lan0, lan1, ... --