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Living Christmas trees to plant outside after the holidays are billed as the ultimate of green recycling. Just remember, some assembly is required.
Living Christmas trees to plant outside after the holidays are billed as the ultimate of green recycling. Just remember, some assembly is required.
If this is your plan, right now you need to choose a sunny place to plant it in your yard. Timing the weather is key. If the soil freezes, you cannot dig the hole.
Living trees must be planted outside as soon as possible after the holidays. Important: Plan on displaying your tree for no more than 10 days indoors, then replant outdoors.
A few garden centers specialize in living Christmas trees. Call ahead for availability and ask about best types. Check if you can take delivery a few days before Christmas. The best chance for success is with trees grown in our local climate.
Container-grown trees are the easiest to handle. Measure your room height before you buy. Never top a living tree to make it fit. While at the garden center, ask about decorative indoor planting containers.
While the soil is workable, select a sunny place in your yard, away from the house and other trees. Allow plenty of room for growth. A five-foot fir easily can grow to more than 30 feet.
Measure the root-ball depth. That's the depth of your planting hole. Hole width should be two to four times the width of the root ball, the wider the better. Dig now and use straw to fill the hole.
Best plan is to shovel the dirt into a wheelbarrow or buckets, cover with a tarp and store in the garage or on a porch to prevent freezing. Average lawn soil needs no additives.
Then, pound two stakes around the hole to support the tree. Do this now as the soil may be frozen later.
Keep the burlap on the root ball. Trim it at the soil level. Locate the tree away from heat sources. Use a large container designed for indoor living trees. These include a proper drainage system. Use standard potting soil. Do not fertilize. Water the tree when the soil dries out. Drainage is critical as standing water suffocates tree roots.
Move the tree in its container to a cold porch or garage. A dolly is handy. After four days, it will be acclimated. Planting directly from a warm house causes shock.
Remove the covering from the root ball. Spread the roots gently and prune any dead or broken ones. Remove straw from planting hole. Fill the hole with water and allow to soak in. Plant the tree, gently firming each layer of fill dirt to eliminate air pockets.
Form a lip of soil around the tree to catch rain or snow. Water thoroughly and add more soil if necessary. Mulch with three inches of straw, ground leaves or wood mulch.
Stake the tree. Water during thaws. Remember that dehydration is winter's biggest plant killer. Fertilize in the spring. Your tree will require water throughout the summer and fall.
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Fritz family helping others make beautiful music
ST. MARYS – If you've caught a local high school (musical) performance lately or attended your child's recital, chances are Fred and Marie Fritz have been behind the scenes making sure the instruments used are hitting the perfect pitch.The St. Marys couple owns Fritz Pianos and Organs, a family business that began with Fred's father, the late Hal Fritz, and also included Fred's brother, the late Frank Fritz, who managed the business's DuBois store until his death nine years ago.Fred said it's hard for him to imagine doing something else."My whole life, that's all I've done, since high school-- since before high school," Fred said. "I believe it's been 64 years we've been in business now, since 1948. I myself have been tuning pianos going on 42 years."While Fred has all of the qualifications—he's gone to piano-tuning school, taken music lessons, and has the special ear needed to put any instrument in order-- he prefers to be behind the scenes rather than onstage."I'm the only one out of four kids that didn't play and I'm the only one in the music business [now]," Fred said."He did have a musical background. He had lessons. He was born and raised with music. He has that training to tune," Marie said. "And his job in the business had always been in sales and mostly in service. And with the passing of his dad and his brother, it's just left him to do all of the above."Whenever Fred tunes a piano, he records his name and the date in it."He's tuned the same piano on Good Friday for the last 30 years," Marie said. "It's their standing date."Fred said one owner in Emporium doesn't get tuning regularly, but when Fred gets the call he is happy to oblige."I started looking at the dates [in that piano] and my father tuned it in 1948, and I've been tuning it since 1971," Fred said.Like shopkeepers of old, the Fritzes live above the business. While sometimes it rings one time too many while they're sitting down to supper, they said it works out well."I grew up with it, and I think it's so much easier to take care of a customer and I can still be at home," Fred said.Even with people calling in at random hours every day of the year—there have been emergency calls on Christmas, New Year's Day, and other holidays---Fred said he enjoys interacting with people."I guess what I like is to meet different people and I get to be in different homes, tuning pianos, doing service calls and meeting a lot of different people... in the store, also," Fred said.He often gets last-minute calls to tune a piano prior to a performance and said in his experience, the saxophone is the most difficult instrument to repair.Fred said the most interesting instrument he has ever personally worked on was "probably the Steinway concert grand No. 500,000. Explaining that prominent manufacturers usually do something special with landmark instruments produced, he said the Steinway was on tour in the area."The whole piano was laser-etched with signatures of people who over the years played a Steinway piano," Fred said. "Roger Miller—he had it on tour. They said the worth on it was $500,000. I think it's in the Smithsonian now."Fred and Marie say they enjoy almost every type of music."I like everything. I really do. I always have music playing," Marie said.The couple recently made the difficult decision to close their showroom in the DuBois Mall after 36 years there.He [my brother Frank] passed away nine years ago, and I didn't feel comfortable closing the store at that time," Fred said.But with the changing times, changes needed to be made, he said."Our lease was up. Traffic in the mall is down. The industry is changing, and we felt that we could compete in the industry better without the overhead of the mall store," Fred said.One way the industry is changing is an increase in the online purchase of instruments, from piccolos to pianos, Marie said. She said when investing in an instrument, it's important for people to touch or hold it, listen to the sound, and see if it feels like "theirs," something that can be hard to do when buying online."Internet shopping is really hurting small retail businesses," Marie said. "People, they're looking at the dollars, and we have a lot of people bring their internet instruments in, and they're not what they wanted and they need repaired, and they paid the wrong price. When you're buying like that, you're buying sight unseen.""If I sell it, I'll go to it," Fred said, explaining that he travels to area counties to maintenance instruments."The closing of the mall has not changed Fred's service work or what he continues to do. We feel like we offer very good service to our customers," Marie said. "Once they buy their instrument here, we're with them for the life of the instrument. And that could be a guitar, a violin, it could be a band instrument or a piano. The name is 'pianos and organs,' but we are a full-service music store."Pick up a copy of the Wednesday, June 27, 2012 edition of The Ridgway Record for more.


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It gives baseball writers out there a chance to do like the pros and vote on awards and possible Hall of Fame inductees. The professionals have made many mistakes in the past. However, I will applaud their forward-thinking in recent years.
I'm putting the finishing touches on my ballot before I send it off to Howard Cole. Cole is a former blogger at the Orange County Register, editor of Baseball Savvy and the founder of Cole on LA.
A big thanks goes out to him and everyone else involved in putting the IBWAA together and getting the new website up and running.
If you're a baseball writer and haven't joined yet, you should.
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The Budget should be abolished to stop Chancellors introducing headline-grabbing changes at the expense of good economics, a free market think tank has recommended.
Measures announced in the statement can create uncertainty for businesses and households, leaving them fearful of the potential hidden effects on their finances, while the Government's desire for favourable media coverage leads to "obfuscation" of potentially important but unpopular policies, according to the Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA).
It claims that since Tony Blair swept to power in 1997 Budgets have moved "far beyond" their original purpose and have morphed into broad economic statements with measures that are often outside of the remit of the Treasury.
The political nature of the event creates strong incentives for vested interests to lobby for tax reforms in the months before, the IEA report ahead of the March 19 Budget adds.
It calls for the Government to look at "completely abolishing the Budget" and instead introduce a short statement outlining the changes to tax rates, allowances and borrowing required to meet public spending obligations.
In place of the current Autumn Statement a simple announcement outlining spending intentions for the next three years should be brought in.
Under the changes new tax policy would instead have to be brought forward by the Treasury and debated fully by both Houses and the relevant select committees in line with other legislation instead of being pushed through parliament in a "heavily whipped" Finance Act.
That would improve scrutiny of smaller decisions that are often little noticed on the day and would reduce economic uncertainty along with incentives for obfuscation and lobbying, the IEA Budget submission states.
Mark Littlewood, director general at the IEA, said: "It's high time the Chancellor grasped the severity of the choices the country faces. Tinkering is no longer enough. To create the conditions for economic prosperity, we need a review not just of the scale of state spending but also of the scope of government.
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Amanpour has been at CNN for 27 years and is most well-known as their chief international correspondent. She became the anchor of her own show, "Amanpour" last year. At the risk of her own life, Amanpour was among the first television correspondents to bring the world's attention to the plight of women and girls under the brutal Taliban regime as it rose to power in Afghanistan.
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albums disliked by the the band themselves
clumsy title but i think it makes sense.
i know harvey milk seem to think life... sucks http://exclaim.ca/Interviews/WebExclusive/harvey_milk
mogwai have always dissed young team but i think that's the recording more than the songs. and the version of summer, and obviously with portfolio.
more examples? i find it fascinating!
There are quite a few albums that the band dislikes for some reason but which are my favourite of theirs
Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds -- Henry's Dream
The Church -- Seance
are two that spring to mind. There are others.
Usually it's some aspect of the production that the band decides they don't like.
Nick Cave said
That Henry's Dream suffered from too much speed
He should start taking some fucking speed now
Henry's Dream pisses over anything he's done in the last decade.DaddyorChips, robluvsnic, Infinite_Jest, and morepricksthankicks this'd this
- ThirstyDog, Royter-Hatfood, and El_Goodo this'd this
and anything prior to it
basically, Henry's Dream is the only one I'm ever inclined to listen to.
Man, that's one of my favourite Beck albums. :(stistermeve and stalecloud this'd this
Must be a Scientology thing that make him regret it
One of my favourites also
it's the only one I bought
I always thought his albums would be crap, then I caved & bought MV - I was right the 1st time. What a load of shit.
Well then try the others
you silly person
New Order - Movement
The Smiths - The Smiths
Suede - A New Morning
Primal Scream - Beautiful Future/Give Out... (and I'm guessing Sonic Flower Groove too)
Tom Waits - everything prior to Swordfishtrombones
Scott Walker - everything prior to Nite Flights
I really like Movement
for the exact reason it gets criticised - ie. sounds too much like Joy Division.
the band didn't like the production
rather than the fact it sounded like joy division
they didn't like the way the joy division ones sounded at the time either mind
The Beta Band, their debut albumcolon_closed_bracket, Wooly31, lyserge, TheWza, and Lambchops this'd this
Charlatans - Between 10th and 11th
despite the fact that we all love itThirstyDog this'd this
ctrl+F Pinkerton
Wow guys. C'mon.bokonon, emmettcruddas, and automatik this'd this
Yeah this is the most amazing one of them all
The band's towering achievement, one of the best albums ever made...and the fuckers who made it don't even like it. Unbelievable.
they've got over hating it now
have played much more of it live - think they played all of it on a dedicated tour?spiritofjazz this'd this
Sure, sure
But it took well over a decade to get to that point. Up until then, Cuomo HATED the record. From the Wiki:
Cuomo was embarrassed by the album's mixed reception and the confessional nature of its songs. On August 13, 1997, he wrote: "This has been a tough year. It's not just that the world has said Pinkerton isn't worth a shit, but that the Blue album wasn't either. It was a fluke. It was the video. I'm a shitty songwriter."[66] In 2001, he told Entertainment Weekly: "It's a hideous record... It was such a hugely painful mistake that happened in front of hundreds of thousands of people and continues to happen on a grander and grander scale and just won't go away. It's like getting really drunk at a party and spilling your guts in front of everyone and feeling incredibly great and cathartic about it, and then waking up the next morning and realizing what a complete fool you made of yourself." By early 2008, Cuomo had reconsidered the album, saying: "Pinkerton's great. It's super-deep, brave, and authentic. Listening to it, I can tell that I was really going for it when I wrote and recorded a lot of those songs."
That band didn't make one perfect record - they made TWO. They shit on every ounce of good will after those two records, but they are so painfully great that we all forget a lot of the time that they made TWO masterpieces. And for a very long time, one of those records was considered an embarrassment by its creator.
Can you imagine? Making a record that grew to be considered a flawless work of art... and you yourself couldn't stand it? How crazy is that?
Ooooohhhh hoooowww
stupid is it!
TBF it sounds like he was insecure about the lyrics
as opposed to actually hating the album they created, his on insecurities probably got in the way as it was a very personal record.
Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures. At least initially, I think. They hated Hannett's production (I'm not too keen on it either). I guess it must have grown on them, otherwise they wouldn't have let him do Closer.
The LAs?
Springsteen recently moaned about the 80s production on Lucky Town/Human Touch, although he said the songs were good.
At a gig I was at, Dave Gray said his first album was rubbish, which is daft as it's brilliant and all his later albums are rubbish.
- vivmichiesrightfoot, Wooly31, robluvsnic, Body_In_The_Thames, and heartworms this'd this
Re: Unknown Pleasures
I think they did dislike it briefly, but only because they hadn't liked how controlling Hammett had been in the studio and the way he'd mixed down everyone's instruments and added loads of FX, but I think they came round to the end results very quickly.
P-p-p-pablo Honey b-b-by R-radiohead
Be Here Now seems to get shaded by the Gallagher's. Kraftwerk albums up to Autobahn?
Noel has always said
something about he'll sign a copy for any fans who shove a CD under his nose. He reckons you'll get a tenner with his signature on it, and nowt without.
Dunno if Radiohead ever actually dissed PH properly, more that they had already written some of the tracks off the Bends, which seems slightly mad to then go and record I Can't and Vegetable instead.
Always wondered about New Order & Technique
For me it's their greatest album, the greatest album by anybody pretty much, but they stopped playing any of its tracks live after 1993.
until very recently of course
as they played round & round a few times last year (eg at ibiza rocks)
it is more a technical thing for them rather than not liking the album, took them ages to reprogram the perfect kiss to fit the key barney sings in these days for example
we'll see more of the older songs dropped in from now
- japes, mfmcd57, and harman_kardon this'd this
I notice from their current tour
that they hardly play anything off Með suð í eyrum við spilum endalaust. Which suggests they don't rate it, which is understandable.
they played nothing from it when i saw them, but have been playing two from it on some dates.
i think its more that outside of Ara Batur (which they probably can't play with the current set-up) it doesnt fit in the set they are playing)
Thye play Festival nearly all the time
but then it is the song most like their typical sound on that record
I was a bit disappointed to find that they don't play much of it
I was hoping they'd play Inní mér syngur vitleysingur or Við spilum endalaust, I love those
must be annoying for him then
given that they're touring it at the mo (?).
How can they be hating on an album that they've just made?
jonsi should
hate his solo album insteadhibster this'd this
what a surprise
I always thought they disliked gdu&$@!94uuJJS
manic street preachers
dont like Lifeblood, and rightly so its a pile of shit. i read an interview with james dean and he said he didnt know what they were thinking when they made that album
Lifeblood's brilliant
I think if you strip away everything that came before it and look at it impartially, it's a brilliant album and that if it had been by any other band it would be considered a classic
ive tried,
Lifeblood is the only album of theirs i couldnt actually find one song i like
Solitude Sometimes Is
Clear highlight for meaactv this'd this
Cardiff Afterlife,
1985... Such a good Autumn/ Early winter album
Lifeblood is awesome...
You've just got to skip 'Emily' and 'Song for Departure' is all. The rest is gorgeous, Celtic-tinged Manics at their near finest. If they can't recognize the inherent beauty of something like 'Solitude Sometimes Is' then that's on them.chris_81 this'd this
- Sloame_Ocean this'd this
I read something similar in Guitarist
Said that he didn't understand the point of the band having a third mode/sound (the other two being the more 'punk' material, and the EMG/TIMT-style material). Nicky posted something on Twitter about wanting to go back to the unreleased material recently though, so he's softened to it somewhat.
- cliquester this'd this
Tindersticks don't like Curtains much
Nor do they rate Hungry Saw/Falling Down a Mountain much either if their last tour is any indicator.
Do they not like curtains?!
Flipping love that album.lyserge, Royter-Hatfood, and calumlynn this'd this
Always thought the one they hated was...
Waiting for the moon.
is their best album methinks.
i'm not sure you can judge how much a band likes/dislikes an album
by how much they play of it on tour. E.g. Belle and Sebastian's favourite albums are Tigermilk and the Life Pursuit, yet they didn't play that much of either on their last tour.
i think they associate Curtains with how they felt at the time on a personal level
because by all accounts thats a monster of a record
Midlake - Bamnan and Silvercork
It is a bit shit though...
The Divine Comedy - Fanfare for the Comic Muse
Not sure it really counts, though. It's more an early demo EP than a proper album.
Oh, I like that one
I didn't realize he hated it!
I like it too!
He started performing 'Bleak Landscape' from it again a few years back but otherwise he refuses to let it become available or easily accessible.
I've never heard it
but I understand it's more of an attempt to copy REM than sounding like what came after?
My Bloody Valentine - This Is Your Bloody Valentine/Ecstasy
and anything pre-You Made Me Realise.
The Cure - Pornography
and Disintegration. They hate them since those albums were the points when the band was falling apart from drugs/booze/in-fighting.
Shame really that Robert Smith genuinely believes wild mood swings to be their best album.
that surprises me, just because of all this 'trilogy' blah they keep going on about, though I suppose knowing what's popular isn't the same as loving it themselves
I can sort of understand disliking Pornography
as it does sound like people at the very end of their tether, that said I love its bleakness, nothing better than an opening line of 'It doesn't matter if we all die.' But I can't understand why he'd dislike Disintegration, there are some great lighter moments on it with Lovesong and Lullaby.
It's a shame though
I legitimately think Pornography is their best record. It's at least my favorite.
First rule of The Cure..
..don't believe anything Robert Smith says in interviews.
They (he) might associate those albums with bad times, but everything I've ever read of RS in the press has said that he rates those albums highly, and that "The Figurehead" is his favourite Cure song. (Such a clichéd pick, imo.)
Of course, RS is notorious for bullshitting to journos...Loui_Tacceh this'd this
to qualify my this
The Figurehead is an EXCELLENT cliched choice
don't get me wrong
I like The Figurehead, in so far as I love Pornography and wouldn't change a thing on it. But I just don't get the love that song in particular receives above not only other songs on the album, but above every other Cure song! I'd rate One Hundred Years, Hanging Garden, Short Term Effect, Pornography and (especially!) A Strange Day over The Figurehead, and that's not even considering the dozens of other brilliant songs they've produced.
For me, The Figurehead, Siamese Twins and even Cold owe their greatness to their place and role in the album, and as individual songs they're nothing special. I'm not saying that they're bad or even mediocre. It's just that for me they lose all meaning outside the context of the album as a whole.
To put it another way, if were making a Cure playlist (even a playlist of their "darker", "depressing" stuff) I'd never consider The Figurehead — not because I don't like or rate the song, but because it has no place for me except where it sits in Pornography, and so when I rate it, I'm really rating the album not the song.
- noise_annoys this'd this
hate Heavy Petting Zoo and think the songs are weird. Not a massive fan of the band but it's got some of their catchiest songs on it.
Kim Deal from Pixies refuses to play some of the material from Trompe le Monde, although this is probably as it reminds her that that Frank sidelined her vocals and songs towards the end.
Looking at the track listing
of Trompe Le Monde, I think I've heard them do 8 of those tracks live in recent, so she can't be that against it.
It changed towards the end of the reunion
However the commonly setlisted tracks from this album like U-Mass and Subbacultcha were in fact tracks from the early Pixies days that finally got put on an album. The back half of TLM is hardly ever played and these are all Frank's songs that Kim was really resentful about.
I saw NoFX once and they said *This is the best song off our worst album - can anyone guess what it is?*
And someone shouted *Ribbed!*
And Fat Mike *Hey! Fuck you man! Ribbed is good!*
Mark Lanegan
seems to hate Scraps at Midnight for some reason. Which is a shame as I love that album and I'd love to hear Wheels or Hotel live. But he only seems to still play Because of This from it.
Anybody else really hate hearing bands trash their own material?
Seems like they always trash an old album to lend weight to whatever their new album is. Pretty terrible kind of marketing-minded thing to do. Only exception is harvey milk going through their entire back catalogue and trashing absolutely everything, that was hilarious.
Nah its all good
An artist is bound to get bored of their own stuff since they're so close to it and worked on it so long. Then have to play it over and over again. The last thing the artist did is prob always the favourite for a while since they put so much into it. Plus it doesn't matter what they think about the music, if you like it you like it.
I would feel kind of cheated devoting time to an album...
...to try and get what the band was aiming for, just to then basically be told, by the band themselves, that I shouldn't have bothered, there was nothing to "get" because it was simply a shit album.
Mind you, I can currently only think of one example of this personally, and that's 'Be Here Now' :DStormsOnTheMoon this'd this
The Beta Band...
... told fans pretty strongly not to bother with their debut...
McCartney and Let It Be, obviously.
Dunno how the others felt about it though....
Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother
Cocteau Twins - Treasure [I think, not so sure though]
The Cocteaus' relationship with Treasure's a bit complicated
It seems their problem is more with being pushed in with arty-farty pre-Raphaelite bullshit (their words) than the music itself.
re: Harvey Milk this has been posted before a few times
this has been posted before a few times
but it's hilarious so here it is again
www.self-titledmag.com/2010/03/08/primer-harvey-milk-tear-their-discography-apart-from-the-shitty-blues-rock-of-the-pleaser-to-the-total-creative-bankruptcy-of-their-latest-album/myyada this'd this
so good
always love reading thatthetaxidriver, WhiteLightWhiteCity, joeymahone, and Comaboy this'd this
Never seen that before
It's absolutely brilliant
I read an interview with Owen Brinley where he was going on about how terrible Grammatics were.
I can't find it now, I'm sure he said something like they might reform in ten years for the money when he was no longer embarrassed about how bad they were.
From the occasional chat I've had with him
He's always been over-critical of his older stuff, without wanting to sound like a kiss-ass I think he's something of a perfectionist so perhaps listening to the older stuff the bits he wasn't happy with stand out more (hell, I find it easier to point out the stuff I was bad at in my previous job than what I did right)
Oh shit, also:
Deerhunter - Turn It Up, Faggot
Bradford HATES that record, if I remember correctly
he said that
they just recorded a bunch of bullshit just to have something to give people so that they could play more shows, iirc
Mark E Smith's already not keen on Ersatz GB
Probably rightly so tbh.heartworms this'd this
a different thread would be albums you think they hate
like Why? and Eskimo Snow, from which they played nothing on their last tour..
not sure not playing stuff live
equates to hating the material, fellasThisTemporaryLife, Yesiamaduck, and joeymahone this'd this
Michael Gira really doesn't like The Burning World
And seems to lay most of the blame for it at Bill Laswell's door.
townes van zandt
was'nt at all keen on his debut,went back and recorded most of its songs on his next few albums.he was on the money there.
mark e smith said something along the lines of his last(ersatz gb) album being shit from start to finish.true tbh.
Daughters - S/T
well at least the frontman didn't seem particularly keen on it.
http://www.noisecreep.com/2010/02/04/daughters-frontman-has-mixed-feelings-about-new-lp/badmanreturns this'd this
Tom Waits
Doesn't like his early (pre-Swordfishtrombones) albums much.
"I'm embarrassed by them. It was a time when I was trying to find my place within the business. I was figuring out who I was and where that person intersected with the world of commerce. It was like I was sitting there with a ventriloquist's dummy on my knee. And the dummy is made out of wood. And after a while you start to hate each other."
Have to say I completely disagree with him & would take Small Change over any of his later work, much as I enjoy that too.
I don't think he hates Small Change
he still performs quite a lot of it live. Plus that album is nigh on flawless compared to the bloated alienation of Mule Variations etc.
- ThirstyDog this'd this
Be Here Now
Well documented is Noel's dislike of it - naturally, Liam thinks it's ace.
I still think it's fascinating the amount of sonic overkill on the album....
I listened to Be Here Now the other day
I liked it when it came out, the problem was that it was disappointing in comparison to everything else they did and they went a bit nuts on song length and production. I thought it was alright actually, I wasn't looking forward to some of the songs but they are better than I thought they would be. If they had skipped a few songs, put some B-sides from around the time on instead and done less cocaine, it would have been much better. Critics would still have disliked it though.
The critics loved it at the time
It got ecstatic reviews pretty much across the board when it came out, until people realised that, underneath the bombastic production & 10 million guitar overdubs, there wasn't a lot of substance. Agree that if you pruned some of the shitter tracks (Magic Pie, Don't Go Away, Girl in the Dirty Shirt etc) & replaced them with Stay Young, you'd have a much better album. Definitely a cocaine album.
I listened to this again the other day too
and came to similar conclusions (though I'd keep Don't Go Away and get rid of the title track).
How the hell is Magic Pie over seven minutes long?!
Every song on that album
outstays its welcome by at least 2 minutes.
They don't like their early hair metal records of which there are several, to the point where they don't even list them in their discography. Which is fair enough, they are shit. They should have just changed their name when they got all cool and heavy, but it was a shame they had a really cool name I suppose.
In the same vain
Ministry don't like any and the early records, pre The Land of Rape and Honey.
Im not 100% on this
as I haven't been a fan for a long time but the Chili Peppers seem to not like albums pre Blood Sex, which I don't get as Up Lift Mo Fo & Mother Milk are their best albums, and Freaky Styley is really good too. In fact they haven't made a good album since Mothers Milk.
I don't think Lee Mavers would like anything he put on record unless it was recorded on a 60's mono tape recorder in an alley by a Bootle scaghead


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Thanks PeteLaughingman wrote:Peter
Basically phones do not display forums well and are even harder to use to post. The advertising takes up too much space and links are hard to follow (click on) or the last post symbol are hard to use without constantly zooming in and out. Having clean text sized and formatted to fit the screen so that you can easily read it is fantastic.
Really no other benefit but ease of use.
So you are basically saying it is because there are no keys (cursor) that it needs to be altered from the original format, to be easier to use on "keyless" devices ?
I got keys on all my phones (HATE touchscreens), so havent got that problem - thats why I did not know or think about it as an issue...


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Liz Grace Davis is a Namibian author. She grew up in Angola, Namibia, South Africa and Germany. She now lives with her husband in Vienna, Austria. Growing up, Liz spent most her days in school libraries, diving into the world of books. In her spare time she loves to travel, create jewelry and digital scrapbooks. She's in her element when she is doing anything that requires creativity. Liz recently published her Young Adult fantasy novel, Tangi's Teardrops. She also writes for adults and her contemporary romance novel will be available in March 2012.
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Tangi's Teardrops (YA fantasy)
When Tangi's father dies, he leaves her nothing but three empty bottles. A kind uncle takes the poverty-stricken girl and her stepsisters in, and for a time life gets better on his farm. But Tangi remains a lonely outsider; her stepsisters tease her for her crippled leg, and the housekeepers use her like a servant.
Just before her thirteenth birthday, Tangi learns the truth about her father's strange legacy: the three bottles aren't empty any more. They're filled with all the tears she's cried since her father died, and her tears are enchanted. She must use them to travel to Rosevine, the world of her dead mother. Tangi not only belongs there but is necessary to keep Rosevine alive.
Tangi's tears will save Rosevine, and Rosevine will save Tangi from a cruelty-filled life, except for one thing: Tangi's lost the bottles.
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