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I think the small dog that keeps running off course is Joe's metaphor for the budget
$.38 High Farce; Asylum seekers locked up for rioting about being locked up.
Off with their heads! Off with their heads!
Call Admiral Bumbles!
I look at these characters, masquerading as gentlemen, in Alex Ellinghausen's photos and I think, what a farce. What do these well-fed comedians have to fear from asylum seekers.
Malcolm looks so much happier with his Labor pals. Defect Malcolm, defect.
My questions are to the Member for Taxtown
I recently saw the front page of an early edition of the Oz from July 1964, just before budget day in August.
The Oz reported that the Menzies government was rapidly increasing spending, and spending it on welfare, defence and payments to the states.
To deal with the resulting debt and deficit disaster that Treasurer Holt had inherited from the Coalition, what measures did Holt introduce in the 1964 budget?
Did he
a. increase income tax
b. increase company tax
c. increase sales tax
d. increase excise on fuel
e. increase interest rates
f. all of the above
Responding to the 1964 budget, did ALP leader Arthur Caldwell say
a. "This is a good budget, a good budget and the people of Australia will give thanks to the Coalition for its vision and preparedness to take the tough decisions in this good budget."
b. "This increased revenue has been obtained by slugging the little people."
According to Tom Paine, in 1791 the British government had a debt of 220 million pounds. Adjusted for inflation that's more than Gordon Brown left.
I thought Hockey got rid of you and your mates who sit on the hills around Lake George. Still got a little bit of puff I see.
Malcolm's sure copped a bit this week, but as we're discovering, anything Palmer related is turning poisonous in a hurry.
So silly are some of the statements and positions that he might even finish up uniting the Coalition and Labor on some budget measures.
Big Clive's well earned his trophy as loser of the week.
Poor old Clive. Who can he turn to in this period of flux and turmoil?
Tony Jones of course. A perfect match some would say.
This is what Palmer actually said, "Why should Australian citizens and businesses be taxed, and working women discriminated against, just so that the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff can receive a massive benefit when she gets pregnant?"
There is no alluding by Palmer to fertility, IVF or anything else closely relating to these issues. To assume that Palmer knew of these issues regarding the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff is based on an assumption without any foundation based on what Palmer said, therefore, any postulation in this regard is in fact an error of reason.
By his description Palmer's entire argument is grounded by discrimination of women allowed by Abbott's Parental Leave Scheme, however as a civil servant it is debateable if Credlin would benefit from this highly paid parental leave which depends on her conditions of employment.
Do try a little harder, Hacka.
This sideshow with Turnbull has done a very good job of getting the Budget and the Government's mishaps in selling it off the front pages.
What Peter Reith fails to address is the massive drop of support for Abbott in the polls, down to 36%. Any more serious and it will be in Gillard/Rudd territory.
Or Obama territory, the guy who is about to finish his stint as President with sudden saving of the planet stuff. All promise and no delivery.
Not true my fine feathered friend, as usual you are in the regions of absurdity. You Obama is using EPA LAW, that's LAW. EPA LAW DICTATES THAT Co2 IS TOXIC. So anyone emitting Co2 requires a license to do so and dictates the amount of emissions emitted.
Jones was buttonholed while Mal pushed his buttons.
Does Senator Carr believe that Bum Crack college and the best Uni in the country, should charge exactly the same fee. Even if there is different demand from students and different learning outcomes?
I thought the argument for cookie cutter fees is that we have cookie cutter Uni's.
Photo @ 4:22 Chris is at it to must have been something dodgy for lunch.
4.22 Just to be clear, Bum Crack College is not an official government term.
Showing a picture of Pyne and this heading classic!
Agree. And a great contribution to Hansard from KIm Carr.
Re: "But there is another line of thought that the more prestigious universities will not have to compete with regional and other universities, and so will be able to jack their fees right up."
Then there is a more credible line of thought that dictates when university courses have funding cut by 20% all university fees will be jacked right up.
The user pays principle has been around for decades. Slow to catch on at University? Maybe it's only taught in Economics rather than Arts?
2.55 NBN Rollout in Dobell; reliability of both access and equipment is a sensitive topic in this neck of the woods, especially for state MPs.
@3.41 - Could be a montage from Where's Wally. Then again we already he's in France.
The bells aren't ringing for Pyne and his gal
Delores is glaring at Abbott's mate Mal
To a wedding their going cus everyone is knowing
There is a new PM a brewing for every guy and his gal
The bells are ringing for dear old Mal
Everyone's is congregating for Mal and Julie his gal
While is going the G.G's waiting for Mal and his gal
They can tell at glance that it's beautiful romance
What wonderful sight as Labor and Coalition unite
The bells are ringing for PM Mal
Oops: While Abbott is going the G.G. is waiting...
That's ok, many have been correcting your scribe for some time now.
Oops #2 - "they're going".
Well at 72 with dodgy eyesight and a temperamental keyboard you are lucky to have what you have of dear old Pen's wisdom. God only knows you need it.
The Pulse: (Can the PM urgently reconsider the budget if he is on a plane on his way to France?)
It was concieved on the back of a coaster so why can't it be reconsidered on a plane, hopefully the high altitude will help him see sense.
And in reference to the earlier post about falling union membership, up to 2000 per week we're told, one has to remember that for union membership to be of any use, one needs a job. Now this gov'ts job abolition record, both within the public and private sectors, makes having and holding onto a job, an increasingly tricky task. But then I suppose abolishing jobs is one way to reduce the influence of unions.
Wouldn't it be great if we could have a division everytime Adam Bandt tried to open his mouth to say something.
Life would be so much more peaceful.
The Rock,
Wouldn't it be great if Abbott grew a pair and declared a double dissolution election like he promised repeatedly?
What is he McFly? Chicken!
Joe's metaphor is the dog's tail thumping the floor.
Give a dog a bad name and he is bad for life.
Hockey says he has to keep training the dog to keep it off the road.
Brandt ran on to the road, leased by Pyne.
Joe will have difficulty living down this budget.
Yes, well is he was talking about his budget its not really a small dog but a big one, like a Rhodesian Ridgeback in solidarity with Zimbabwe's economy and what Joe is doing to ours.
The Pulse @ 3:00pm. The Malcolm is in fine form isn't he? Shorten should ask him if he wants lessons on how to wield that sword himself.
Go Greens!!!!
And don't come back.
who would have thought that the labour/greens union could be even worse in opposition than they were in government.... they keep getting smashed in question time day after day.....
and you keep cutting and pasting this post day after day
rod it keeps happening every day..... how can labour stick with bill the knife and his second hand front bench.....
MELBOURNE CENTRIST, the same way Abbott has stuck to Howard's second hand front bench.
because bill has led them for 8 months from a substantial electoral loss to be 10 points ahead in the polls, and the LNP at their lowestebb for 20 years.
That's why.
Melbourne Centrist,
That's funny.
Because that trembling coward Tony Abbott prefers to use his 1,900 spin doctors and waste taxpayers' money on political advertising to sell his horror May budget.
Unlike Hockey, Abbott cannot bear to face a hostile Q&A audience to defend his litany of broken election promises and May budget.
Abbott also cannot bear to face off against Gold Walkley award winning journalist Sarah Ferguson on prime time 7.30 before a national audience, after she exposed Health Minister Peter Dutton's lies on air and tore into his dodgy costings.
Billy Tea got Owned by Malcolm. All of the blue tie brigade can own him... Maybe Albo should lead the attack..
Even in Opposition the Labor-Greens Party continues to try and increase the debt and deficit for future generations. Even recruiting from the ANU instead of the AWU hasn't saved them.
Oh that's funny.
Because less than 3 months in government, Joe Hockey had raised the debt ceiling to half a trillion dollars (an instant increase of 67%) then removed the debt ceiling entirely.
Hockey also indulges in a little Costello style creative accounting by no longer recording government debt borrowings for infrastructure as debt.
As if unlimited debt and threatening to close down government services is not enough, Hockey is also having a fire sale of every 100% publicly owned asset he can get his hands on and selling our assets to foreign governments and overseas buyers.
Australia - not only made in China, but now owned by China.
Thanks stupid Liberals!
Bill is in a policy free zone today with his questioning, looks like he's going to play the man, not the ball all day.
Doesn't seem to be getting very far with it either.
There's no ball to play. And if there was you couldn't be sure whether or not the Government was lying about it anyway.
it's question time hakky, not a debate. You have to listen to ALL of the sitting to get Labor's policies
Well tasch2, it probably is a bit humiliating for Bill. He's watched the Swan spending extravaganza for years and surely even he knew it had to stop eventually.
Abbott and Joe have repeatedly said they'd fix the budget. the deeper the Labor mess, the tougher the fix required.
2014 is showtime, the year responsibility returned to fiscal management. Imagine the screaming if it had been a really tough budget.
I would think it is more humiliating to have a decisive election victory and then lose all that goodwill during the honeymoon period.
What honeymoon tasch2 ? The lefties were hilariously screaming "worst government ever" by the Sunday morning after election day.
2.55pm Turnbull, we are committed to complete the rollout sooner, cheaper and more affordably for the great benefit of all and the repair of the budget".
Check your sums buddy you are starting to sound as of as Hockey!
Jill may have a point, as The Advertiser on 9 May 2014 reported Jamie's enemies as describing him as an "inveterate leaker to the media"
Pictures @2:30 & 2:32 Joe looks uncomfortable or wasn't something quite right with the subsidised lunch.
He is thinking...Burgers. Fried onion rings.No salad.Beer.MMM ....beer
You dont think he might have developed a conscience do you???
or maybe just looked at the latest polling results????
Either way looking much less smug this week.
Just caught a bit of question time in the car at lunch. The Dorothy Dixers are becoming even more excruciatingly predictable and time wasting. Who writes this spin? What a perversion of democracy.
A dedicated parliament TV channel in addition to http://www.aph.gov.au/house is needed for voters to see who they have elected to represent them. The question is, could anyone bear to watch it?
The LNP is determined to kill our brains. They know it is the only way to get themselves reelected. I guess Jones and Bolt have perfected the art for them. i mean look what listening has done to Hacka and SteveH, no thinking, just mindless slogans and regurgitatiion. and look what the slogans and regurgitation has done for Tony, the guy can't think anymore, repeats himself like his own echo just to make sure he still exists and is showing all the signs of actually falling for his own lies. At least some has fallen for them I guess.
The dixers are far superior to the ramblings of the ALP that are supposed to be question.
What a waste of taxpayers money with this pathetic opposition - not one policy questions in the whole of QT just repeating lying gossip.
Turnbull summed the current ALP clowns perfectly helped by Barnaby
Andie. There needs to be a policy for there to be questions about it.
"The member for Lilley is still in the chamber" Awwh SNAP :)
Unlike the Prime Minister who is too scared to face the smashing he endures in QT and trots off overseas, or, perhaps he is just wary of Malcolms sharpened knives.
Oh dear - an hour of thinking time and this is the best you can do. There is no hope for the Labor/GREEN alliance. I am old enough to remember when the Red tie boys could wipe the floor with the blue team.I guess this is what happens when the Unions decide the parliament. Electricity Billl is the best they can come up with. He is still the best thing to happen to the LNP for years.
Barnaby: Its still 260 days since you answered a question too.
You do realise that this is par for the course? The ALP don't answer questions properly when they're in government either.
You're either very new to question time or have astonishingly bad recall.
Barnaby is trying to cope with his new found fame- his Putin look in The Weekly Times, bare chested/half naked on his trusty steed, riding in the bush.
It's a bit/lot hilarious.
No time for questions or answers, just autographs.
Perhaps just higher expectations based on what the current Government said whilst they were last in Opposition. But then again it is silly to expect anything of our politicians isn't it.
Try again, checkout The Weekly Times for his latest pin up. He's got other things on his mind, the Putin look.
Jack Black,
Nothing compares to the Liberals who were too gutless to debate and campaign on their policies and provide their costings before the election.
So much for their rhetoric about being a "no surprises government" and lies about "no new taxes without an election".
Let's not forget it's not the first time the Liberals have sprung policies on voters without ever taking it to the election.
After gaining control of both houses in the 2004 election, the Liberals implemented their harsh industrial relations reforms and removed the "no disadvantage" test.
Of course, the Liberals hastily reintroduced a "fairness test" leading up to the 2007 election after a voter backlash, but by then it was too late.
Voters not only have the cricket bats out for Abbott over his Commission of Audit recommendations and his horror May budget.
There is the manure sandwich to come when Social Services Minister finally releases his changes to welfare, Scott Morrison finally releases his 457 visa inquiry recommendations which water down protections, Eric Abetz weakens awards and enterprise bargaining agreements, and the Liberals announce their full suite of unannounced taxes and sells off more than $130 billion of our 100% publicly owned assets - including land, utilities, energy providers, roads, ports to foreign governments and foreign investors.
So the Treasurer is fixing the Budget by purchasing a small dog and teaching it not to run on the road because he is scared for Tony Burke's safety?
I think the small dog that keeps running off course is Joe's metaphor for the budget
Probably better than Labors plan.
I think it might be Joe's metaphor for Joe.
Photo @ 11:20AM
I can almost see Mal, in Nifty Nev (RIP) manner saying:
"Are you from 2GB?"
REPORTER: "I am."
"Yes. Well, I don't answer your questions"
Hawke said watch out for slogans.
Eddie Obeid - 'political witch hunt' 2014
Bill Shorten - 'political witch hunt' 2014
Kevin Rudd - 'political witch hunt' 2013
Julia Gillard -'political witch hunt' 2013
I think there is a pattern developing here.
Trust Malcolm's penning everything down for a book. A tell all.
100 pages into Oakshott's (the first 17 days). Any wonder he was a wreck, all the relentless media attention and the weight of the Nation upon his shoulders.
Sarah should get it out of Mal tonight, if anyone can, she can.
Will he be allowed to appear though.
Mitch, the $1M Q, after cancelling four others?
While the cats' away...........
Faifax wouldn't lie and they have a headline Malcolm muted: PM 'silencing Turnbull'.
Clearly he is not allowed to do interviews and has been silenced thats why he hasn't done any today and is not planning any tonight.... according to the SMH headline anyway.
Cwitty on 7.30 tonight, cited here on FF.
ACG Details in a story that do not match the head line. No. I don't believe It. This is not a tabloid paper.
Doug Cameron doesn't seem to handle humiliation very well. Good one Pratt, but no surprise that accounting and budget issues had to be explained.
Incidentally, can you get kicked out of a Senate Committee hearing ?
You would have to be a brave or foolhardy pratt to think you put one over the *William Wallace of the Blue Mountains* without it coming back to bite you.
I guess now that the woman behind the man is OS then Mal is more free to go where he wants and say what he likes
The latest News-poll has the Coalition at 36% the lowest in 20 years. Meanwhile Buttons uses Bolt and Jones to press buttons. No one but no one knows how best to win an argument than a barrister. And they also push buttons?
What's the matter pen? Is Wikipedia down at the moment?
yeah jb, i think greghunt has overloaded wiki with requests
Black Jack
I rarely use Wiki, however on the odd occasion that I do use it is invariably for simple minds. Having spent 10 years in two universities I am more than capable of in depth research.
Samantha Maiden is a good journo, but when Turnbull was speaking (11:13 and 11:20) she looked like she was elsewhere.
In fact, looking at the 11:13 shot, many of the journos did. Are they a little Malcolm-weary this week ?
Journos are probably sick of LNP double speak, dribble and not answering questions.
They are LNP weary, shonky Budget weary, policy vacuum weary, slogan weary . . . .
This is dedicated to the spin I love
Ohhh, be careful, Hack's, you will give the game away?
Not at all. They just know when they're being used.
It's interesting that the LNP cheersquad today seem to be making snide asides about Malcolm, backing the obvious attack by Jones and Bolt. Perhaps there really is a move afoot against Tony?
That would be bad news for Labor. Malcolm would attract a sizable swag of Labor votes, and would solidify the votes of the majority of reasonable, moderate Liberals who they would have been hoping would put in a protest vote against their party being hijacked by rightwingnuts.
yes, pleeeeaaaase keep Sir Toney One Term as Lib v Nat Parties leader - he's singlehandedly dragged the LNP from a comfortable win to a 10 point loser in the polls, in only 8 months!! absolutely outsanding material to deliver a revolving dooor government
Gigondas - as they say don't believe everything you read. Certain elements of the media, fired up by Wild Duckgate, are trying to fan divisions within the Coalition. There's always going to be a spat or two, but Abbott's running a pretty tight team.
Even if Abbott gets himself into trouble, there's no chance of Turnbull taking over. More likely Joe or Julie waiting in the wings.
So Bill can breathe easy - his threats are from within, not external.
That's a shame, Hacka. For all his faults Malcolm is the only one on the front beach with the ability and the apparent desire to make the Liberal Party live up to its name. I talk a bit about nominative determinism (usually in reference to 'enough is enough', I admit), and it would be good for the country if it described your party.
Gig, Misleading advertising IMO. Someone should take them on, under the Trade Practices act or Consumer Affairs et al. haven't been "liberal" for years. Liberal with the truth is about the extent.
Are all LNP Pollies taught that you have to repeat the punch line or slogan thre times ?? Eleventy Joe: "We said with this initiative that we are putting in appropriate safety nets, and that is exactly what we are doing. We are putting a huge number of safety nets in place, we hope none of the safety nets need to be used."
There was a very nice post on here last week (I think) which said something along the lines of: Tony could greatly increase his own productivity if he stopped saying everything twice.
Murray's "Word on the Street" - what's today's word on Sesame Street? It's ... "safety net".... (isn't that 2 words Murray?.. shhh) ....and what is a "safety net"?
"it's a big net under a acrobat"
"it's like the net thing round your trampoline"
"It's like a net for fishing and the fish goes in and never ever ever comes out again"
What's that Ojevita? a bit like the LNP's model for the cycle of poverty?
yeh like that
That's it from "Murray's Word on the Street" - back to the studio and more shennanigins in question time with Bert and Ernie!
And what are these safety nets that "we" hope don't have to be used ? I'm guessing that no money is involved - maybe a fridge magnet on how and where to get non-monetary welfare.
Why would a politician repeat something 3 times?
Probably because at first, they know that no one was really listening to them;
secondly, so people can have another go at hearing it, but knowing that they probably won't know what the message actually is;
& thirdly, to try to get the message out there one last time, but still knowing that the people won't understand it anyway because it's political speak (which is kind of the same as reading Dr Sues if you do listened to it the first time ;-) )
You know the old saying that the more often a lie is repeated the more likely it is to be believed.
@Indeed: Because most of the time they don't speak the truth therefore there is a need to repeat: The first time for the listeners, the second time to make sure that it sinks in and the third time to make sure that they do remember the words to repeat it again next time.
Malcolm should have the nickname of Buttons bestowed on him. He is pushing a few buttons while the saviour of the planet from climate change is in France to compare our 12.5% government debt to GDP with France's 90%. And Buttons keeps pressing more buttons. Thereafter the Captain of words goes to see Obama for a good dressing down and a lesson on what constitutes crap. Meanwhile Button's keeps pressing more buttons? As Captain drone speak bumbles and mumbles on the international stage, Buttons continues to press buttons.
Pen; Brilliant assessment of current affairs! Love your work.
Yes, pushing buttons and ringing bells, of the alarm variety.
AAHhh can't wait to see the look on Abbotts face when he's speed off to Normandy on the TGV all red faced explaining to Holland he is the Minister for infrastructure.
The Bureau of Stats reports that the unions have lost almost the MCG in membership in the past 12 months, with close to 2,000 per week deserting them.
Curiously, ACTU Secretary Dave Oliver was quoted as saying "the number 1 recruiter for the trade union movement is Tony Abbott".
Does that mean the ACTU are hoping for four-term-Tony ?
A whole MCG you say? How many Olympic swimming pools is that, then?
Falling union membership might also have something to do with the fact that those who need the protection of the unions the most, the unskilled and low-paid, are finding modest union membership fees harder to afford as wages are not growing as fast as the cost of living. And now the low paid will have family benefits cut and higher petrol costs due to the regressive Budget.
And so Hacka, with falling union membership and influence, who will the next scapegoat be for Lieberal failures on the economy.
Well Gigondas, that depends how many swimmers each pool. If we work on eight lanes .... one swimmer per lane .... that would be 11,625. That's a lot of pools.
mitch - yeah i suppose it could be that, or maybe it's just that after Toyota, Holden and Alcoa people realise they can negotiate far better themselves than having the union butt in.
Now there's a question for Pen to research on Wiki & Google. Are union fees growing faster than wages?
Union member fees are 100% tax deductible. Back to the drawing board, or whatever educates you.
That has coincided with Shorten taking over. Says it all doesn't it.
@eie, first you have to have a taxable income in excess of the tax-free threshold.of $18,300 to get any benefit out of a deduction for union fees. Many, many people are lucky to get even that.
1.00 Stumbles is *putting a huge number of safety nets in place*. Is that like putting buckets all over the house when it rains? Why not just design and build it properly?
Hurley new Governor!!!? Bugger, I thought they meant Liz.
12.26: Senator Concetta Hyphen Hyphen *We are currently undertaking a review of housing and homlessness* (so we just helped out 28 poor starving homeless ballerinas).Not paying young unemployed should help the numbers along a bit, Senator
Not defending Sen F-W.
Why are the Greens so often rude and aggressive in these committee meetings/hearings? SHY is often very rude - especially to members of the ADF and other public servants. There's no need for it.
I think the two former PMs yesterday made a good point that the Govt and Oppn should sit down and talk about standards and behaviour in our parliament.
Puzzled I think your answer relates to diet. If you look at 1.25pm exchange you will see a perfect example of the inedible garbage Senators are proffered.
I'm puzzled about where you have been for the last 4 years when the Libs re laying into every public servant and accusing them of being Labor puppets.
Block Supply!!!
One can only hope. The election was won on a complete fraud perpetrated on the electorate so they have no mandate.
Labor will not block appropriation bills.
Abbott will either be forced to accept the watering-down of the more extreme budgetary measures or seek a DD election.
Indeed lies have never a mandate made.
mitch - the LNP didn't win the election, it was the ALP that lost it, & Bill should probably be listening to Bob a bit more on how to turn it around & really get the people behind him. At this stage, he is playing the LNP's game & it does not suit, nor benefit him one iota :/
You are talking about the Rudd / Gillard fiasco Govts. right ? - a greater fraud has not been surpassed in Aust Political History, one narcissistic fool, the other just a fool
Where has Catherine King been hiding(?).
Judging by her appearance on Q&A and speeches in the House, she's articulate and on top of her brief as Health Shadow.
Very impressive.
Just as well King is a Labor MP. If she was Lieberal she would be lucky to see the light of day.
Jason, most Labor women are impressive - because they are allowed to perform to the best of their ability, unlike their sisterhood on the side of politic - Former Prime Minister Julia's speech on misogyny was spot on.
Ballarat. talent scouts obviously knew her potential, safe seat. Even if she did get a bit of a flogging 2013. Would take a fair bit to up seat her. I agree she holds herself well and does her homework. Convicted to her causes. Does make you wonder what the line up would be if so many didn't quit after all the infighting. They lost a lot of decent people. Shame a few ex's wouldn't stand as Indi's, so they aren't controlled by the machine.
Sshh - Don't mention - 'Emily's List' Absolutely selected on merit
['Hurley will be the next Governor of NSW.']
I guess this is a consolation prize for missing out on the top gig.
Hurley's no doubt suited to the position, but his appointment serves to increase the perception of some on the Left that the Tories do love their khaki.
The question is why? I have my thoughts but they're probably too controversial to air here.
OK you Lib Lovers, who's behind the beat ups with Malcolm? Credlin? Or someone else from the hard right?
Certainly someone keeps stoking the fire.
It does seem like the pro-Abbott faction are trying to undermine Turnbull, and not the other way round. They must be feeling very vulnerable given how much everyone hates Abbott now, well, except for the hardline neo-cons.
@Tone A really good point - interestingly I think he's doing so well in these interviews that if you're right it certainly wasn't the desired effect.
Tone, DeaLer- backfiring alright and encouraging to see a Lib give it to the shock jocks. Wonder if they'll get the message though or keep stoking.
While the cat's away..........
All entertaining.
It would seem that Malcolm and Clive are behind the beat-ups. I don't understand why you, A Country Girl, of all people are so dismissive of Clive's disgusting comments about Credlin.
Do you think she deserves those comments because she is a conservative? You certainly wouldn't have accepted those had they been made about Gillard or Wong or Plybersyk.
Nothing has highlighted the hypocrisy of the left more than this incident.
ACG - No body from the LNP is attacking the women that surround Our PM. His Daughters, His Wife and now Peta abused for wanting to have a child. I remember you defending the sisterhood against sexism when people that voted like you were getting abused. Is it OK to abuse women as long as they vote differently to you? When is sexism OK?
@Pragmatic, what on earth are you on about. The Left have been critical of the comments Palmer made just as much as anyone else and rightly so. Almost as bad as Alexander Downer's "Things that batter".
ACG, I'm no Lib lover but I think Malcolm himslef is responsible for the beat-up. His rant against Bolt then jumping into the 2GB drive & breakfast programs is deliberate. Malcolm always does well in any interview & he clearly is seeking to speak to as many Lib lovers as he can. BS is right, he does protest too much.
Cwitty, whoops perhaps my grammar. I wasn't referring to Clive's go at Credlin. I was inferring that Credlin is involved in the Malcolm bash. I didn't find clumsy attention grabbing Clive's comments sexist. Rude- yes, off -yes but not sexist, bad mannered-yes.
I'm not the sort of feminist who just jumps on the sisterhood wagon for the sake of it. I judge people on merit not their chromosomes. Matheson was off the mark with Margie, but dodgy job and scholarship was warranted.
Do you really think the suggestion that Credlin is too influential in the governments rates up there with "Ditch the Witch"?
I think you are clutching at straws.
The Libs are still stuck in their sexist twilight zone. The only defence of her was that we should feel sorry for her because she is having trouble conceiving a child. No metion of her being smart or intelligent. the Libs couldn't bring themselves to say a woman was intelligent.
Pragmatic prince
Then if Clive's comments are so disgusting; what about Barnaby Joyce's comment that "Peta Credlin … certainly ticks all those boxes. And I'm on good information from her husband that she is definitely a woman."
This comment is outrageous and certainly far worse than anything poor old Clive said.
Mitch - PPrince remembers like I do how ACG staunchly defended women from sexist abuse when it happened to Gillard. We thought she meant it. Turns out it was all partisan and not authentic. The moderators won't let me show how ACG defended Clive's sexist and hurtful remarks about Peta Yesterday - you can find it here.
econo, with you on the Joyce comment, it exudes of smut, locker room stuff. Yet hardly raised an eyebrow.
A small team busy working on Turnbull and Clive- no doubt a special Dept, set up. Morrison probably has a few spares to lend for the job.
Passing the pain and blame and black holes from Federal to State governments:
Queensland Budget: It took two days for the Qld government to back down and withdraw on cancelling or modifying on concession rates to pensioners.
The oddity of this is the concessions are wrongly called rebates i.e. money paid up front then returned when they are actually discounts so the money was never paid in the first place.
It is supposed to cost $54 million over four years when it is actually uncollected funds.
The system of accountancy involves counting concessions as a loss against State Revenue.
An example of maximising profit re touting the sale of state assets.
Is this form of crunching the numbers where the imaginary budget black holes came from?
If shorten wishes to talk about the budget he could talk of Hockey's forward estimates, projected out to 2024, make no mention of population growth by migration as with the 25% increase in overall population since year 2000, yet decry additional spending estimated at $667 billion?
Serious studies reveal costs of $200,000-$300,000 per migrant for additional infrastructure and services. The current immigration intake estimated by the ABS is 380,000 for 2013-15. If we use an average $250,000 cost per migrant and the current rate of migrant growth of 190,000 per year out to 2024 they equate to 1.9 million additional migrants x $250,000 additional spending for a total of $475 billion: 31% of current GDP and 71% of Hockey's foreword spending estimate.
And there is no advantage to the economy, "International comparisons show that there is no association between population growth and growth in per capita GDP. This is not surprising as comparative data on 32 OECD countries show no positive association between population growth and growth in labour productivity."
In addition Hockey is allowing an additional $30.5 billion for defence with current military procurement costs of around $40 billion for a total of $545.5 billion. Therein lays the two main fiscal problems which require urgent attention. In essence while Abbottism is wrecking the economy while allowing the two main sources of expenditure to expand Shorten smiles at babies.
I don't know about everyone else but I rarely get beyond the first paragraph of your essays before I start scrolling to the next post Pen. You usually argue well and are somewhat non-partisan but you ought to look up 'succinct' in the dictionary.
So now I am responsible for short attention spans that cannot cope with 300 words?
I'm not assigning any responsibility to you and it's not about short attention spans. It's a bit like long emails; few read them. Perhaps blame twitter for the 140-char quip (not that I'm a Twitter user)
You just have to wonder what the Liberal social media spokespeople on here will say when their hero is unseated by Turnbull. It's so obvious that a tilt at the leadership is coming. It would be a great opportunity for the hordes of Liberal backbenchers, worried about their seats because of the grossly unfair Budget, to support a Leader who would act to ameliorate the worst of the measures. Hockey won't do it because that would mean losing too much face.
I'm not so sure. Sure, some might vote for Turnbull out of self-preservation but he's not very popular within the Coalition ranks, despite being the most popular Liberal leader in the general public. I don't think he has anywhere near the numbers to challenge.
I should add that I don't expect either of the present leaders of the major parties will be taking their respective parties to the next election. Shorten has no charisma and Abbott no credibility. Turnbull could probably lead either party to victory.
It's a numbers game and MT doesn't have the numbers. So nothing will happen till that becomes a lot closer Also it's over 2 years before the next election. I'm sure there will be some sweetners in their final budget. After all they are politicians.
mitch , you need to revisit history and see how popular Turnbull was with the people when he was opposition leader.
From memory they were about half of what Abbotts are npw.
Meanwhile over in the AL:P Mr 40% popular vote swings his union cronies in the Caucus to beat Mr 60% popular vote .
Actually glad Albo was rolled by Little Billy as Albo would be a far far more formidable opponent for the Abbott government.
Wonder how many of the caucus rue their vote now or will in the next few months??
Why is NSW getting another retired soldier as Gov ? In fact - why do the States need a Royal Rep ?
Because they are Liberals
I wonder how far each LNP member will try to sit separate from Mal now, considering he had the termerity to have a go at the Libs hero, alan jones today ?. Mal might be sitting on his pat Malone today, its hiliarious, pass the popcorn. !! LOL
Turnbull accuses Alan Jones of doing the Labor parties work how so Malcolm? Jones admits that he gave you the first 3 questions the night before. Tell me how many Labor MP's get that privilege?????
Julia used to until the carbon tax lie & she kept Jones waiting for 15 minutes.
Shorten as always telling the people of Australia that the Liberal Party is stupid. Why Shorten are you telling people about the mistakes that you made.
I imagine he got the idea from the Treasurer taking credit for backward looking GDP figures
Yep, the biggest mistake he made was allow the Liberals to gain power. Shame on you Bill Shorten.
I suppose he is pointing out Hockey's idiocy in thinking people believe him when he is taking credit for the GDP growth! Don't tell me you believe him?
Can Shorten also release the transcript of Tanya Plibersek's interview with Alan Jones of 22 October 2013?
Because, when it comes to Alan Jones, the answer is in your moniker
or transcript of Sir Phoney's interview with Jared MacKinney - that one's easy
".........[stare]........[stare] ........[stare]......"
a true statesman
Always looking for Labor to do your work hey?????
but Sock, hey yeh, I guess you don't care if public education gets hacked, "Screen Australia was cut by $25.1 million, while the Australia Council lost $28.2 million",
while 28 wannabe ballerinas get 1 Million to buy a Melbourne mansion..
risch richer, poor who cares..
"Turnbull: Well Alan this is not football here. We are not playing football."
Turnbull is dead right here. And typical of Jones and the Liberal right wing. They think that politics is a big game. They don't care if people starve, cannot find jobs, cannot afford health care and cannot afford education as long as their side 'wins'.
This is not the bloody Bledisloe Cup. It's real life here and Jones's attitude affects a hell of a lot of people who don't give a damn about sport but care about their families and their future.
That's the problem with a hint of bipartisanship - it removes a lot of the confrontation and that's half the reason people get into politics. If you've hated the other party since your Young Liberal/Labor days you certainly cant deal with someone trying to do something treasonous like compromise
The trick of Westminster democracy was to use a strategy to divide-and-conquer the general population using two major parties, and treating them like football teams, so that people would focus on that entertainment while the rich got away with the loot.
@Tone, well said!
I reckon having dinner with Palmer would be very similar to a rugby Maul.. Fair call Jonesy
I wonder where that leak about the cunning strategy to hoodwink the Nats came from? Apparently from a liberal member of the Ministry. Let the accusations begin - who did it?
More likely the ABC and Guardian journo's pete, government members aren't likely losing too much sleep on that one.
no hakkky, Ministers just march out to the steps to deliver L vs NP conspiracy denial speaches because of the crisp clean air
Who watched the ABC apology last night to Chris Kenny ? It was long overdue and rather shallow in delivery.
The hardly-publicity-shy Mark Scott could have at least had the decency to apologise to Kenny and the Australian public himself, but at least they did issue it.
Between the legal fees and the settlement, wonder how much it's cost the taxpayer.
less than Sir Phoney's renovations/lost rental/moving to Kirribillli House anyway stunts
Sorry, missed it. Is it going to be repeated soon? what about the real culprits, when does that Chaser mob get to defend their actions in court?
YAAAAWWWWNNNNNN Hacka,
Who cares? There is a much more entertaining show on at the moment, it's about a stumbling, bumbling PM who is on the way out (already) so he has enlisted his two best media mates to slime his closest rival, it's very entertaining!
Yeh, I saw/read it. If you want to talk cost and offending people, then....
How much is George's, snort IPA's attempt to change 18c laws cost us to date?
A certain animal is considering suing the Chaser crew - reckons its reputation has been sullied by alleged close association with journos.
Why did the ABC have to apologise anyway? I mean it's not like it's possible to lower Kenny's reputation.
eie - to be honest you didn't miss much. I was wondering if they might make it a bit ritzy and have Peppa Pig do the honours, but alas she didn't.
ACG - not sure about those 18c costs, but surely you'd agree that the ABC had no business targeting an Aussie citizen in the way they did Kenny, not to mention the costs to the taxpayer.
I'd love to see an online poll on what % of Aussies reckon the chaser should be ditched.
hacks, well they've apologised and yep agree I was expecting Scott, but he has already addressed it. As a new viewer to Peppa I have to agree it could've been a fun episode.
Re Govt spending, there is a lot of hypocrisy when it comes to how our money is spent- different priorities. Seems to me it's the legal profession who never miss out, no matter what the case or which side they are representing, they pocket. I presume the ABC case will be small fry compared to repealing or changing Bolts section.
P.S speaking of targeting I wonder if the ABC is game enough to produce an "At Home With Tony".
ACG: Yes, perhaps with Peter Rowsthorn playing Tone? But I'll be even less likely to watch it than I did with "At Home with Julia"
Dear Hacka,
When was your cartoonist in chief
"pickering" ever made to apologise
for the pornographic caricatures he
made of Prime minister Gillard...?
and sundry - you're not going to find too many conservatives claiming any links with Pickering, think he had his 15 minutes in the 80's.
Mind you speaking of cartoons, there's a great one in The Oz today featuring Anne Summers together with Clive Palmer.
A lot less than $7 per head.
In honour of the new PM's literary award chair, I will answer in verse:
Oh Australia the free
Offense is taken, not given
By right wing columnists demanding apologies
That are issued in due course
Oh Australia our liberty
Protect individuals from the State
Just beware of government informants
Monitoring social media
Rod thank lighting another Gillard/Rudd policy in the renovations of the two PM dwellings .
As an ALP supporter you will remember the days when the sale of Kirribilli was ALP policy. That is it was until Kevin Rudd moved in . You will well remember those romantic pictures of Kevin and Therese watching the 2008 New Year fireworks from Kirribilli.
And remember those selfies Julia took of her self and her guest at Kirriblli the wonderful Kyle Sandilands.
So Kiirbilli is part of the history of the ALP . Did you make snide comments about it then?
ICAC: Obeid and Tripoldi engaged incorrupt conduct.
Given the numbers of people in both state and federal parliament perhaps there should be a cut in those. This would reduce the number of nodders behind ministers and shadow ministers during photo ops. Perhaps journalists should bypass the minister and ask a question of a nodder behind and see if they actually were listening or merely trying to stay awake.
A big part of the back bench role is taken up with asking the only questions of the government in QT that get anything that actually resembles an answer - can't risk reducing numbers there because otherwise the govt may actually have to answer questions from the opposition.
That was interesting reading yesterday, regarding the $1m budget allocation for the ballerina boarding school.
And the completely coincidental Liberal party connection via Rod Kemp's, (former Howard Govt. Minister and now Chairman of IPA) wife on the Ballet School Board.
One wonders even if the date of the sale was an uncanny coincidence.
Stranger things have happened.
Progressive Conspiracy Theory Under Construction.
No admittance without tin foil hat
Made me yawn personally but hey.
SteveH, I minimise as much as possible the use of Aluminium. One of the most polluting industries and highly subsidised by the Govt with their power consumption.
And where's all the news of Alcoa closing down their Nhulunbuy smelter this month. Long on the cards but devastating for their community re services.
Besides of course the Parkville purchase and 'gift' is dodgy. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out.
David Hurley to be appointed as next Governor of NSW. A knighthood beckons. Well done.
Hopefully the adults will be back in a stop that rubbish
I'll miss Marie Bashir. What a great governor she has been.
as a psychiatrist Dr Marie was trained to deal with poiticians
Cormann, enough said.
So clean energy is off the menu.
In their so called wisdom he is considering selling off the profitable CEFC. Let's have a fire sale of whatever they can lay their mitts on, in anticipation of creating a smokescreen of fiscal responsibility.
"Bob Brown's Bank" has in the vicinity of $11B of projects in the pipeline but these illiterates will flog it off because it's promoting and encouraging renewable energy, rather than stinking polluting coal.
And of course because it has a Labor/Green brand stamped on it.
CC has apparently stopped because the Flat earthers hold the keys. Not on the G20 agenda. Deniers are far more dangerous than sceptics. Oh well, I wonder if it's on the discussion list of OS Leaders during the current jaunt.
Why do politicians prefer to use baby's instead of adults, as a photo op?
They can't ask embarrassing questions and they are a captive prop. Suffer the little children indeed.
Basically because they are 90% mindless, err the politicians that is.
Oh for a little well-timed and aimed projectile vomiting.
Because are the only ones who do not switch off and put their hands over their ears with BS carping whinges.
Their ribs are softer. I want my baby back, baby back, baby back, baby back ribs. Baby - the other white meat!
Probably explains why Jules spent so much time visiting schools.
Let's hope Shorten doesn't visit the hospital cafe and order a meat pie. Could end in tears. It would be good to see him rally the cleaners and orderlies and assure them that the HSU is all hunky dory.
go get a coffee, you're not making sense
Rod .does this make any sense ?
What is Bill Shorten trying to say here?:
"We do also say to Tony Abbott as he does his grand tour overseas over the next 11 days, that this rotten budget is still here festering when you come back. … This budget is still here for Tony Abbott to deal with when he comes back. The problems of this budget are still here. The unfair cuts especially in education, but not just education are still here when Tony Abbott gets back from his overseas trip … The problems of this budget will not go away as much as Mr Abbott hopes they will, and the problems of this budget will still be here festering."
Pleas explain
Totally agree Rod Steiger
andy, makes total sense - unfair, cutting, no reveniue, dumb budget
Agree with you Rod.
Andie - what do you need explained? Looks like pretty basic English to me. When Mr Abbott returns from his overseas trip, and is allowed to return to Australia because Jesus allows him to, the rotten budget with all its inbuilt lies will still be here. Got it?
Shorten listens to Jesus as well due to his Jesuit upbringing.
EIE - I have never heard Mr Shorten say that Jesus knows everyone has a place and that Jesus knows everyone's place is not Australia. But I did see a video of Mr Abbott highlights where he says that. Following Jesus is great. Twisting Jesus is terrible.
I thought someone might be able to tell me the ALP point in this meaningless BS rambling and what was its deeper meaning .
After watching BS being demolished in QT it is clear to see it has not real point
So Alan Jones is once again doing the dirty work for mumbles Abbott, Abbott tried with lumbering Turnbull with Fraudband but as usual class rises to the top.
Alan is multi skilled.
As Turnbull pointed out, he is also doing the work of the Labor party.
Pieron, of course Alan Jones is doing the dirty work for the Coalition- it's his way of staying relevant. He and 2GB are symbols of the base support for the Coalition in Sydney- predominantly older, cranky Caucasian males. Why do you think the PM goes on his and Ray Hadley's shows? He knows they won't ask him any tough questions- they'll fawn. I think the only tough question I've heard Jones ask any Coalition representative (and I have to agree on this with Jones) has been on the effects of CSG exploration on farmers- but ultimately the Coalition (both State and Federal governments) will press ahead with exploration in the name of economic development (the environment be damned) and Jones will fall in line as he always does.
Pretty rude of Alan to treat a Coalition MP (or any guest) in the way he did on the show- "Get it out of your head- there's no way that you'll ever become the Leader again". How do you know, Alan? You've been wrong so many times it's not funny. It's your opinion, not fact, and you were probably put up to it by the PM to gauge Mr Turnbull''s response.
What makes Malcolm a bit different than most Coalition members is that he has actually been in business, is smarter than all of them combined, has socially moderate views and is willing to compromise when necessary. It's the others in his Coalition that have caused the increased polarisation in political discourse in this country and increased income inequality through policies that are transparent in their desire to set one segment of society against another.
Alan Jones was John Howards speech writer and is as rusted on as Hacka so I would doubt he would assist Labor. Listen to his show and hear the venom he spits at Shorten.
What a laugh. Pieron makes an argument not based on fact but on side. Alan Jones worked briefly as a speech writer for Malcolm Fraser not Howard.
I don't always agree with him but he is no worse than the ABC or Fairfax.
PP no worse!!! you are kidding me, I might have got a fact wrong but your post is sheer idiocy!! You have obviously forgotten chaff bag, his big truckie rally and Juliar at least you have made my day with a good belly laugh.
"The boats have been stopped", says Tony Abbott, "so the problem has been solved". Except for Indonesia of course who is still playing unwilling host to 10,000+ refugees. It doesn't matter what SBY says or does now. He will be gone in a few months after their election and will be replaced by a tougher and more nationalistic leader. How long will that problem remain solved for Tony Abbott.
And just to think our politicians were babies once!
Rudd created it, Abbott solved it,
get over it.
And to think mitch of ACT, those who said it couldn't be done. Boats couldn't be stopped or turned back. And here we are. No boats and no more deaths at sea.
I think we all have to agree that it is a good outcome.
God you winge about "Stop the boats" being a usless 3 word slogan but when it works you still winge about it. Clearly in some peoples eyes the Right can never, ever, ever do anything right. That is simply one eyed bias.It's now Indonesia's problem and the numbers will slow down once the people realise that avenue to Australia is shut.
According to the UNHCR the number of asylum seekers in Indonesia have plummeted with very few arriving every month. So "stopping the boats" has been very advantageous to Indonesia.
Bit like the union membership numbers - plummeting - 90,000+ abandoned the unions in the last 12 months and only 12% of the private sector employees are now union members. Expect that to fall further when the CFMEU tactics are exposed at the union Royal Commission
@The Rock, deaths at sea replaced by self-immolations on land and scores affected by mental illness. In the end we will pay for it as we are paying now: http://www.smh.com.au/comment/it-costs-more-to-house-a-detainee-on-manus-island-for-a-day-than-a-night-at-5star-sydney-hotel-20140604-39jeu.html
mitch of ACT.
I picked up your spelling mistake - you meant saving not paying right?
$2.5 billion I believe was the number quoted yesterday in question time by Joseph Hockey.
But hey, if you believe thousands drowning at sea is ok then go for it man. We each have our own consciences to live with.
stevish - uh - not solved yet .... seems to be Sir Phoney''s doing with his dumped orange lifeboats
"Indonesia's foreign minister says Australia's approach to asylum seekers will remain a sticking point in the relationship even if a code of conduct on intelligence can be reached.
Marty Natalegawa says the draft code before Australia is a simple document of no more than one page."
"Cuts to health & hospitals". Health budget will increase by 9% each year and 6% in final year of budget period.
wrong - 80 billion gone in forward estimates - as population grows, ages you need to service more, or tolerate a decline in living (and dying) standards
ross gittens fairfax - "The budget was a giant attempt to get back to surplus solely by cutting spending and not increasing taxes. It failed. Not so much because of the temporary deficit levy or the resumption of indexing the fuel excise, but because the cumulative $80 billion saving from short-changing the states on schools and hospitals - almost a quarter of the total saving - will have to be covered by increased state taxation."
It is correct. The spending will increase. What is gone is the unfunded promise of the ALP.
Swallowed up by our absurd unsustainable migration influx. Doesn't take much to work out what is behind the continual push for Big Australia. Fake growth rates and appease the Developers, Big. End.
Please tell us all the page in the last ALP budget papers that in the four year estimates includes this "mythical" $80 BILLION.
You will not find it as it is money ALP dreamed up to spend after their 4 year estimates.
So please stop making a fool of yourself by continuing with this complete LIE.
gee, sorry guys, I was just quoting one of the most respected economists in Australia... who noted the $80 billion cut and said state taxes would increase... didn't realise you were more clevererer
You can't cut what was never there. If I am receiving $100 today and that will reduce to $80 next year then that is a cut.
But if am going to receive a 9% increase year on year I can't see how this is a cut.
If I get promised a 20% increase sometime in the future and that increase falls less than that it is still an increase is it not?
The Rock,
Health Minister Peter Dutton doesn't even understand his own budget figures.
Just like how Abbott lied about deregulated HECS fees and full fee degrees not applying to students enrolling in uni this year.
And how ignoramus Scott Morrison never realised the federal government funded the Refugee Council of Australia and withdrew funding although it was announced in the budget.
And then there's the failure of Scott Morrison to provide his costings for his offshore detention centres, his orange lifeboats with extra passengers, financial compensation for dead and injured asylum seekers in his offshore detention centres, etc in the May budget.
The Liberals also neglected to include the costings for their parental leave scheme in the May budget, just like how they failed to provide their 200 PBO policy costings before the election.
After Peter Dutton's woeful performance on 7.30 and the reception Hockey received from a hostile Q&A audience when trying to sell his crappy May budget, it's no wonder that Abbott hides behind his 1,900 spin doctors and refuses all repeated requests to appear before a prime time, national audience on 7.30 and Q&A.
Abbott's terrified of Sarah Ferguson.
What will the state of the bubs be after working until they are 70? Subject to the allowance of climate change and sea rise by 2084?
40 minutes? Just enough time to observe the niceties. I bet SBY could not wait to get away. It would be interesting to know what they REALLY think about TA.
SBY wanted the meeting so the length was determined by SBY and I think was proposed to be 30 minutes so it actually went longer then anticipated.
Yes - it needed to go longer than 30 min - "err, ahh, umm", three times repeating the punch line. Anyone else would have managed in half that time
And it came to pass that Hockey of smoke and divine mirrors did blow the rams horn as if a jubilee of growth has come prematurely to have the walls of our fiscal burden fall down. But alas it is not the tenth day of the seventh month in the Day of Atonement, the people hear not thunderings, and see lightnings, but the mountain of Hockey smoking by the noise of his own trumpet.
Woe it be unto us for the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously again and what the people see is 80% of the growth of this past quarter is by one industry - mining.
Yea I say unto thee that we earn our way in the world mainly by selling minerals of iron ore, coal, gas, and gold). And the trumpet brings forth more immigration and woe be us of less resources per capita. For so it also means that we must deplete our resources faster if only to maintain a constant standard of living, And yea I say unto you it is false trumpet for we fall, fall and fall.
and the walls came a tumbling down...
Great news on the economic front yesterday with the national accounts showing growth is improving. Perhaps the one million jobs is a fair prediction.
What a shame though that people keep needing to explain to Bill S the difference between the national economy and government finances.
The latter remain in a mess and rather than talking the economy down, perhaps Labor could help Abbott and Hockey fix up the budget.
Excluding Hacka, Steve H & Enough is Enough, anyone feel like the adults are incharge???...
Pen of Hebra please keep your reply to a simple "yes" or "no"... :)
Sorry, Sam but someone has to grind the organ of truth.
Considering that the Libs have doe nothing to help the economy since being elected except to talk it down, one can only conclude that the GDP result we saw yesterday was still riding on the coat tails of the previous gov't being for the Jan to Mar quarter. Future GDP figures will be all Hockey's doing and will be influenced by the contractionary Budget. Pascoe summed it up yesterday. http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/a-good-year-for-the-economy-but-its-downhill-from-here-20140604-39ik3.html#ixzz33eAkcdjk
sam most thinking people know the adults are back in charge.... most wont say because the viciousness of the far left worries people.....
Oh Hacker, Hockey & the LNP had nothing to do with the economic performance. The fact that the mining states didn't have a wet season causing the mines to shut down drove the numbers. But we forgive you being in Canberra you have little news of what happens in the real world. PS I was waiting for you to jump on this you fell for the headlines hook line & sinker. Keep up the bias work.
Funny my experience with adults precludes them taking credit for others work! Stand back and watch the inept government implode.
Hacka, Labor talking the economy down? Have you been in dreamworld? The figures only prove Labor's contention that the supposed dire economic circumstances and associated budget "emergency" do not exist. In fact, the Coalition was the party talking down the economy during the Labor years.
It has been the position of the Coalition to spin like mad, take credit whenever possible and when they screw up, blame Labor. But this new slash and burn Budget will have a big impact on the next quarter's growth figures and if they go down as they should, it will all be down to the Coalition political miscalculations.
Sometimes you sound like Miss Havisham in Great Expectations, living in a room frozen in time and still wearing that old wedding dress expecting that your dreams will come to pass. Join the real world and stop spinning such blarney about Labor screwing up the world.
If the Coalition had been in power during the GFC, they either 1) wouldn't have intervened in the name of free markets, meaning that the unemployment rate now would be 15%, the economy would still be in recession, the retail sector would have collapsed and the banks would have been failing as well, or 2) would have done what Labor did and stimulated the economy to preserve jobs and keep the economy from following the rest ofthe world.
And Hacka, if they chose option 2, they wouldn't have done it any better than Labor- in fact, they probably would have done it worse. I know it irks you mightily, but Wayne Swan got Best Treasurer In The World for a reason- he did a good job and kept the country moving along. The current Budget butcher Joe Hockey will never get that honour.
yes hakkie, unemployment rate steady at 5.9, but I guess it depends where you live how you feel that
Fairfax "The 17 per cent youth unemployment rate in the western suburbs is almost three times higher than in wealthier parts of the city, including the inner west, and is set to rise above 20 per cent
....The analysis shows Parramatta is Sydney's centre of youth unemployment, at 16.8 per cent in January, which is close to three times the national unemployment rate of 5.9 per cent."
But I guess if you don't give a toss if youth unemplyed eat for 6 months, this really doesn''t matter. Anyhow, their not from Sydney's east or north shore, so it's probably for the best
Now explain how one lying oligarch is superior to anther lying oligarch. When you have worked that one out your comments may have an iota of veracity, until then they remain mindless drivel.
Hmm - and your economic credentials are ??
mitch - on the contrary - since inheriting an economy with falling growth and rising unemployment, the Coalition have at least started the process of getting growth back to trend and getting employment moving.
Surely you'd have to applaud the effort, indeed the economic literates are back in charge.
Hacka - Very pleased to see positive economic figures, perhaps both parties can take some credit for them? One observation, we still have a carbon price right? Wrecking ball through the economy? Credibility crisis.
Amazing logic, Hacka - they haven't even implemented anything of their first Budget, and all of the economic good news (things that were happening all the while that Hockey, Cormann and Abbott were running around like a clutch of Chicken Littles beating up an "emergency") is - according to you - attributable to the LNP. By what? Osmosis, or some kind of spiritual intervention? I bet you believed Howard when he spun his great porky about "Interest rates will always be lower ..." - you apparently think that there's some kind of magic LNP pixie dust. One thing about you Libs - you can spin anything.
So the fact that the market fell yesterday, and is falling again today, even after good GDP figures, what does that say about the market's confidence in the gov't to manage the economy. It looks like a big thumbs down to me.
mitch - glad you mentioned the stock market, which has been going gangbusters lately. It's hardly surprising there's been some profit taking after the record highs.
Deafening - yes just imagine how much better the figures would be - employment, trade, growth - without the carbon tax.
Hacka, if the economy is so grand,as it was under Labor, AAArated, low debt, inflation, interest rates, how come your mob has unleashed a vile dead carcass austerity budget, that only harms the poor, pensioners,students and young unemployed. ??
@MELBOURNE CENTRIST: "most thinking people know the adults are back in charge."
Thinking people? All the carriages in your train of thought look empty. It's a bit hackneyed now but it's more like the 'dolts' than the 'adults'
Quite simple Piesnchess - the economy is going okay, the government budget is not.
There's been over 100,000 jobs created in just the last four months, along with decent growth, so Abbott's claim of a million jobs mightn't be so silly after all.
Hacka where have you been since the election? Joe Hockey has done nothing but talk down the state of government finances to the willing and unwilling since getting elected. God only knows how the economy keeps growing after the relentless bashing it gets from the LNP.
@JoeHacka: the government has not done anything since coming to power, except try very hard to censor our civil liberties (how many boats? Who knows! It's a secret), threaten our peaceful way of life (bigots have the right to be bigots) and scare the living day lights of the poor, the sick and the elderly (budget), and then there is the lies and double standards which have so far distinguished them from any other government in history I can recall. Any job creation is due to the previous government leaving Australia's finances in order - and yes, with a small amount of debt (we have 3rd lowest debt in the world).
Is it a requirement for LIBS yo be 'unhinged' now?
Not sure how Shorten recovers from Hawkie's pasting. No policy Bill certainly has some work to do. Policy free zone ALP have nothing according to Bob.
Its sounds like you are critiquing your own commentary.
actually, Bob was a bit cannier than that - he was hinting at Shorten to get a policy, but he was also saying a no policy government only got in because Labor had backstabbed themselves.
And how about Howard's comments on slogans (too many) and fairness (MIA) and policies (where ?)
EIE for your information Shorten is being coached by Keating - one of the best parliamentary performers of our time. Just worry about your own side of politic - watch this place - you may have a new leader to cheerio about in a few days.
So how is Tony going to cope with Howard criticising his lack of policy and over reliance on three word slogans?


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Lauren Hare is leading the way for the North Central Indians on the court and in the classroom.
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University routed routed Tahoma to kick off action at the 4A State Softball Tournament on Friday at Merkel Sports Complex before falling in two straight games while Central Valley was also eliminated.…
There are many ways to make sure your teammates are ready to go, one of them is to keep things loose. That is the method of Gonzaga Prep Senior Blake Bonham.
Washington State put a stamp on spring practice on Tuesday afternoon after a two-hour workout in helmets and pads at Martin Stadium.
Keith Osso and Sarah Wheeler catch up with Gonzaga's trio of seniors after the loss to Syracuse.
Eastern Washington wraps up spring practice with it's annual scrimmage
The Idaho Vandals will play football in the Big Sky beginning in 2018
Pacific Lutheran and Whitworth traded leads before the Lutes went ahead for the final time in the seventh inning to eliminate the Pirates with an 8-5 victory on Friday evening in the NCAA Division…
The Royals defeat the Chiefs 6-2 to end Spokane's season.
The Empire (9-2, 7-1) completed the season sweep against their in-state rival during the 2016 Indoor Football League regular season with a Week 14 45-23 win over the Tri-Cities Fever (3-9, 3-6) at…
For the first time ever, the Northwest League All-Stars took on the Pioneer League All-Stars and it was a wild one at Avista Stadium.
While there were 46,566 people registered for the 40th annual Bloomsday Sunday, there weren't quite as many t-shirts at the finish line. KXLY4's Alyssa Donovan reports.
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Linda Cardellini Is Don Draper's Surprise New Mistress on Mad Men Season 6
Mad Men is always good for an awesome surprise mistress.
Rosemarie DeWitt was Don Draper's (Jon Hamm) mistress on Season 1. Alexis Bledel's character had an affair with Pete Campbell on Mad Men Season 5. Julia Ormond played Megan Draper's mother, who had an affair with Roger Sterling, also on Season 5.
And on last night's Mad Men Season 6 premiere, we saw that Don had started cheating on his wife Megan ... with Linda Cardellini.
The Freaks and Geeks star, now 37, plays Sylvia Rosen, Don's neighbor and wife of his doctor buddy. At the end of the two-hour premiere, we saw Don in bed with Sylvia, whose late '60s look rendered Linda almost unrecognizable.
It's sad to see Don back to his old ways, but at least he has good taste in women!
Head over to Entertainment Weekly for a Q&A with Linda about her new homewrecking role.


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Changes to EUID Password Standards
By Dr. Philip Baczewski, Associate Director of Academic Computing
The UNT Computing and Information Technology Center has begun an effort to strengthen password security for the information systems used by students, faculty, and staff. The goal of this effort is to protect personal and sensitive information that may be stored on UNT computing systems. As a first step, strong passwords will now be required for using your EUID to access systems including EIS, EagleMail, WebCT, my.unt.edu, and Central Web page editing.A strong password is one that is not easily guessed by people or computer programs. For example, your name is not a strong password, since that is information known to many others. Likewise, words in a dictionary are not strong passwords, since computer programs will easily read that dictionary and try each word if it knows your login name. A strong password is a less obvious sequence of characters which contains a variety of upper and lower case letters, numbers, and punctuation.
EUID Passwords may expire soon . . .
To ensure that strong passwords are in use, it may be necessary for UNT to set an immediate expiration date on your password before the end of this calendar year (2004). If we do so and you have not recently changed your password, you will then need to change it or reset it before you can log into central computing systems such as EIS, EagleMail, and my.unt.edu.
To change your EUID password, you can point any web browser at http://ams.unt.edu/ and follow the steps on that page. Detailed instructions for changing or resetting your password can be found on the CITC helpdesk page ( http://www.unt.edu/helpdesk ). Once you set a new password, it will be valid for 120 days.
When you change or reset your EUID password via the UNT Account Management Page ( http://ams.unt.edu/ ), your new password will now have to contain upper and lower case characters and either a number or punctuation mark. Your password will need to be something other than a recognizable word or name. If your password is not considered strong enough by the Account Management program, you can ask it to suggest a strengthened password for you and it will provide you with a list of possible strong passwords based on what you previously entered.
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If you don't have a strong password set for your EUID, we suggest that you do so as soon as possible. This will prevent our manual expiration process from disabling your account and allow you to reset your password in a deliberate manner so that you can have time to decide on a value that is most memorable to you. Note that this information applies only to the EUID password used for the systems mentioned above and not for Windows workstation or Novell Network access.
For more information about UNT's password security practices, please read the article "Protecting Your Digital Identity: Changes to Password Procedures at UNT" in the August, 2004 issue of Benchmarks Online (see, http://www.unt.edu/benchmarks/archives/2004/august04/comp.htm ).
Questions about your EUID password or requests for help changing it can be directed to the CITC Helpdesk (940-565-2324 or email@example.com).
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The Plot to Kill the Filibuster - And the last-ditch bipartisan effort to save it
Daniel Foster writes on NRO: Senate Republicans, with Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's (R., Ky.) blessing and led publicly by Senators Roy Blunt (R., Mo.) and Ron Johnson (R., Wis.), have launched a new-media initiative called "Stop the Nuclear Option," complete with website, Facebook-share button, and Twitter hashtag suggestions (including #NuclearOption, #PowerGrab, and #CoupAttempt).
Its uphill mission is to make the GOP interest-group coalition care about that bit of Senate esoterica that is the filibuster, and the dust-filmed procedure Harry Reid's Democrats intend to use to destroy it.
Republicans got a taste of what such a Senate would be like this week, on the TAG bill (a holdover from the TARP era) — when Reid broke a land-speed record in "filling the tree" (that is, blocking all possible amendments to the bill) and filing for cloture (that is, daring a filibuster) less than two minutes after Republicans voted overwhelmingly to begin debate on the measure.
On the conference call, Senator Johnson called the way Reid constantly fills the tree (he's done it 107 times so far) "unconscionable" and a major reason for the partisan tit for tat that has ground the Senate to a halt.


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True Beauty: The Search For a Ring!
June 21, 2010 07:56 PM by Candace Young
On the last episode of True Beauty on ABC, Liz didn't make any friends with her behavior, but she got to stay when Regina was turfed for violating the show's rules by using her cell phone! Vanessa Minillo is the judge, and Carson Kressley and Beth Stern are the hosts, as the search continues for the Face of Vegas. The episode begins with Taylor and Liz's return…
The other hopefuls in the house are ecstatic to see Taylor return, thinking that Liz was sent home, so they're shocked to see her come in soon after him. Liz prepares to do shots which the Amy calls a nightmare.
Vanessa tells Carson and Beth that the contestants will be taking part in a sexy photo shoot wearing nothing but food! Carson gathers the hopefuls and fills them in on the fact that they'll be wearing…the buffet! He says it's a billboard photo for Planet Hollywood.
They choose their food by number. Craig gets a live crab! Others get sushi, fruit, veggies, ice cream, muffins, pasta. They think the photo shoot is the whole challenge, but it's whether or not they will react with compassion that is the true test.
During the shoot, an assistant will pretend to lose her engagement ring in the trash. Amy and Erika pass by helping her, Craig and Liz fail. Taylor passes, as does Michelle. David fails.
Everyone does their food photos, with Amy having a meltdown after coming away unsatisfied with her results. Carson and Beth judge the photos, and the winner is Erika! Carson says the worst were Craig, David, and Liz. Craig and David are the bottom two, and will go to the Final Face-off.
Back at the house, David says it's the crab against the banana (referring to the food in their photos). As they head out, Vanessa is with Carson and Beth. They discuss David and Craig, and decide that Craig has the better attitude of the two. Vanessa tells them that the guys will be tested on the way to Final Face-off. Two people posing as tourists will ask them to stop and take a photo for them.
Craig encounters the tourists and refuses to stop and take a picture. David does stop and takes the picture for them! Stunned, Carson, Beth, and Vanessa agree that it will all depend on their pleas to stay.
In Final Face-off, David's plea to remain focuses on his photo. Craig says he's given 110% in each challenge and only chose the wrong slogan for his photo. Carson and Beth step aside to deliberate with Vanessa. They return and thanks the guys for their statements, and announce that David is going home. They tell him there is more to this competition than meets the eye and Vanessa explains the inner beauty catch and shows him the footage.
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McMECHEN - On paper, Tuesday night's boys' basketball game between Bishop Donahue and Bellaire St. John looked like a major mismatch.
On the court, it was even worse.
Coach Tom Wise's high-powered Bishops offense took control early with big runs and managed to get all 14 players on the roster plenty of playing time against the inexperienced and small Fighting Irish.
Senior Austin Ghaphery tallied 24 points in limited play and Donahue had first-half runs of 12-0 and 28-2 in rolling to a 106-26 thrashing of St. John.
The victory moved Wise's crew to 2-0 early in the campaign with a trip to Valley up next on Friday night. Meanwhile, first-year Coach Jim Miller watched his squad dip to 0-4.
"There was no question, we knew coming in that this was going to be a challenge, and it has been," Miller said. "I am sure the Irish community, parents and fans want more, but right now these kids are giving everything have."
Leading 4-2, the Bishops used their first spurt to pull out to a 16-2 advantage and led 20-7 with 3:57 to go in the first. From there, they used an 18-2 run to go up 38-9 after one, and then scored the initial 10 points of the second quarter for a 48-9 score.
The margin grew to 66-19 at halftime and ballooned to 88-19 with a third-quarter opening, 22-0 burst.
It was 95-21 after three quarters with Donahue going past the 100-point barrier on a Saquan Finley basket with 5:50 to play that made it 101-21.
"I have been where he (Miller) is right now," Wise said. "I have had the seven player roster and had scores like that against me, and I know it is tough.
"But give that team credit, they played as hard as they possibly could all the way through and you have to admire that. Jim is a very good coach and he will get that team built up and I wish him all the best in doing it.
"Our guys were very unselfish out there and ran the floor very well. I am very happy at how effective we played and that is a very positive thing. We had a lot of younger kids get quality minutes, but we are an older team.
"I have 14 kids on this roster that can all play, and sometimes it is hard not to push the ball with them."
Getting mostly layups off Fighting Irish turnovers, the Bishops' starting five was a sizzling 29 of 39 from the floor for just under 75 percent. Donahue also made more field goals in the first quarter (17) than St. John's had for the game (nine). The hosts also had more field goals in the game (47) than the Irish had shot attempts (42).
Along the way, the Bishops grabbed a commanding 42-15 lead off the glass and turned the ball over 18 times to 37 for their guests.
D.T. Meeker added 16 for Bishop Donahue, Wylie Koontz had 14 and Cody Ballard chipped in with 10. John Alvey, Michael Gregorcic and Garrett Holubek had five each for the Irish.
"These kids fought hard to the end and never gave up," Miller added. "I know that our older kids are getting frustrated, but our younger kids are very hungry. I never said this would be easy, we have to find a way to change the culture and what has been done here."


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Welcome Days 2015 Schedule
Below was a schedule of events for Welcome Days 2015. The schedule for 2016 will be updated soon! Check back often for updates!
Monday, August 24th & Tuesday, August 25th
Parents Program Dinner information (Friday, August 21st)
Thursday, August 20th
Move-In Day
10 a.m. | University Housing
Welcome Home Resident BBQ
11 a.m. – 2 p.m. | Mary Ward Hall Lawn
While new Gators and their families are working up an appetite settling in to their new homes, join Sodexo dining services for a smoking BBQ!
Understanding your University Housing Installment and Financial Aid Payment Plans – Methods of Payments
1 p.m. – 2 p.m. | Seven Hills Conference Center
Learn about on-campus housing Installment Payment Plans, Housing Fee Payment Schedule and the Method of Payments.
Residential Life Parent Panel
3 p.m. – 4 p.m. | Seven Hills Conference Center
Professional staff will provide parents with important information regarding the residential experience. There will be a Questions and Answer session following the panel discussion.
Movie on the Lawn
7:30 p.m. – 11 p.m. | West Campus Green
Relax, meet fellow new students and watch a newly released blockbuster film. Family and friends are welcome. The film will begin when it's dark outside! Sponsored by your Associated Students, Inc. (ASI).
Friday, August 21st
Welcome Days Registration
8 a.m. – 10 a.m. | Main Quad
Pick up your program with the schedule of events. Don't forget your SF State Student ID card to check in.
Wake Up and Smell the Java/What's Happening Information Session
8 a.m. – 9:45 a.m. | Malcolm X Plaza
Enjoy a free cup of java and learn about Welcome Days event highlights in preparation for an exciting day. Sponsored by the SF State Alumni Association.
Academic & Student Life Resources
Various Times 8:30 a.m. – 10 a.m. | Various locations (see printed program)
University colleges, departments and support programs will host a variety of information sessions to assist students in learning about the many options and resources available to achieve academic success and engagement at SF State. Sessions include tours, general information sessions, and resource guides
The Transfer Transition
10 a.m. – 11 a.m | Knuth Hall, Creative Arts Building
Transfer students are already familiar with college life. However, every institution has its own way of doing things. Learn how to best achieve academic success at SF State as an incoming transfer student.
Welcome to the Real World (First-Year Students)
10 a.m. – 11 a.m | J.Paul Leonard Library Entrance
Welcome to college life. Student actors convey possible real-world scenarios while University departments provide helpful tips regarding safety, wellness, and student success.
Home Away From Home (Parents)
10 a.m. – 11 a.m | Burk Hall, Room 28
Administrators and staff provide family and guests with important information regarding safety and wellness resources at SF State. There will be a Questions and Answers session following the panel discussion.
SF State Welcome: Faces of Community
11:15 a.m. – noon | Main Quad
This event is the official SF State welcome to all incoming students including remarks from the University President, President of Associated Students, Inc., Dean of Students, and the Vice President for Student Affairs & Enrollment Management. Each speaker will provide insight into the SF State experience through his or her unique perspective. In addition, you will have the opportunity to enjoy performances from student organizations and campus artists. SF State invites incoming students, their family and guests to discover the many faces that make up our diverse and multifaceted University community. As you begin your journey at SF State, you will learn that it will be a unique, challenging and enriching experience.
Taste of SF State
noon – 1:30 p.m. | Main Quad/Lawn, Malcolm X Plaza and Cesar Chavez Student Center
Grab some free food, sample SF State cuisine, learn how to get involved in student activities and enjoy music at this food fair and student activities showcase.
Café 101, Café Rosso, Sodexo, Gold Coast Grill & Catering, Nizario's Pizza, Natural Sensations, Station Café, Subway, Taqueria Girasol, Taza Smoothies & Wraps, Village Market & Pizza
First Class
1:30 p.m. – 2:15 p.m. | McKenna Theater, Creative Arts Building
Presenters TBD
Student Success Workshops
2:30 p.m. – 3:15 p.m. | 3:30 p.m. – 4:15 p.m. | Various Classrooms (see printed program)
Various workshops will be offered for parents and incoming students to choose from to provide detailed information regarding academic programs, University resources and tips on how to be successful at SF State.
Parents Program Dinner- currently SOLD OUT
5:00 p.m. – 7:00 p.m. | Jack Adams Hall, Cesar Chavez Student Center
Join us for the 4th Annual Parents Program Dinner during SF State's Welcome Days. Parents and family members of San Francisco State University are an important extension of the SF State community. To thank each family member for their support and partnership, SF State Parents Council in partnership with the Alumni Association want to extend a special invitation to you to break bread and socialize with other parents and learn about the exciting ways in which you can be involved with SF State and your student's experience.
While you participate in the Parents Program Dinner, your student is encouraged to head over to the West Campus Green for the Student Life Carnival to enjoy music, food, games, laser tag and much more.
This event is currently sold out! To put your name on a waiting list, please email email@example.com. Tickets may be available at the door the day of the event.
Student Life Carnival
5:00 p.m. – 8:30 p.m. | West Campus Green
Enjoy an evening of music, food, games, laser tag and much more as we bring the carnival to SF State.
Greet a Gator
8:00 p.m. – 10:00 p.m. | J. Paul. Leonard Library
The library isnt always quiet! Join us at the J. Paul Leonard Library where one night a year things can get a little loud with your new Gator friends.
SF State's Got Talent
9 p.m. – 12 a.m. | Student Life Events Center
Various SF State student organizations and students (new and returning) showcase their talents through dance, music, and other performing arts. Come enjoy a night of fun as you the audience decide the winning act.
Saturday, August 22nd
One Community – Day of Service
8:30 a.m. – noon | Malcolm X Plaza
Incoming students begin their community service experience, connecting with classmates, SF State and the San Francisco community. Students are invited to participate in beautification, landscaping and other service activities.
RSVP available online when you register for Welcome Days.
Journalism Department Mandatory Orientation
10 a.m. – 1 p.m. | HUM 308
The Journalism Department Mandatory Orientation is required for incoming journalism transfer students. Students will learn how to be successful students in the department and the importance of advising. They will also learn about scholarships, workshops and other events that lead to on-time graduation.
Student Life Dance Party
9 p.m. – 12 a.m. | Student Life Events Center
Get ready to dance and connect with fellow incoming students. Bring your SF State ID for entry.
Sunday, August 23rd
No scheduled events
Monday, August 24th & Tuesday, August 25th
Welcome to Student Life Information Fair
11 a.m. – 2 p.m. | Malcolm X Plaza/Quad
Learn about the many departments, student organizations and resources on campus that help shape the Student Life experience. Students will also have the opportunity to suggest new ideas for Student Life at SF State.


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There were bustiers and ball gowns, leather chaps and fishnets. But participants in Seattle's 37th annual Pride Parade Sunday cut a wide swath across the community, featuring numerous corporate and civic groups, from Microsoft and Starbucks to labor unions and church groups.
Of course, there were bustiers and ball gowns, leather chaps and fishnets. But participants in Seattle's 37th annual Pride Parade Sunday cut a wide swath across the community, featuring numerous corporate and civic groups, from Microsoft and Starbucks to labor unions and church groups.
It took more than three hours for approximately 180 parade contingents to make their way along Fourth Avenue, from Union Street to Denny Way. As the last entries passed, the crowds filled the street and headed to Seattle Center to continue the party at PrideFest, a free festival hosted by One Degree Events.
New York state's historic vote Friday to legalize gay marriage, coupled with the United Nations' resolution endorsing the rights of gay, lesbian and transgender people that passed earlier this month, added to the celebratory atmosphere.
Seattle Mayor Mike McGinn, wearing an "I [Heart] NY" T-shirt, stood before crowds gathered at Westlake Park and spoke of the importance of the New York law. "Washington state will be next! Washington state will be next!" he shouted to thunderous applause. He then slipped a Seattle Pride T-shirt over his other shirt.
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King County Superior Court Judge Jim Doerty, who was one of three "real-life" judges asked to judge parade entries, echoed McGinn's praise for New York.
"It's wonderful," Doerty said. "It's another great big reason to celebrate."
Adam Rosencrantz, board president of parade sponsor Seattle Out and Proud, estimated crowds at 400,000, in excess of last year's 250,000.
"It's an exciting time," he said. "I think one message for us to remember is why we're doing it (Pride festivities). In this country, we can do this. But there are places around the world where if anybody finds out you're gay, it's punishable by death or life in prison."
The Seattle event represents the diversity of the local gay community, he said, and reflects broad political and corporate support. Numerous local politicians and representatives of Macy's department store, Amazon.com, Group Health Cooperative and other groups participated in Sunday's event.
Grand Marshal George Bakan, editor of Seattle Gay News, one of the country's oldest gay publications, looked not unlike Santa Claus as he rode on the back of a red Mini Cooper convertible. Other grand marshals included the owners of the Seattle Storm basketball team, renowned author Armistead Maupin and Daniel Hernandez, the aide who rushed to help Rep. Gabrielle Giffords after she was shot in the head in Tuscon, Ariz., in January.
Lots of skin was on display, largely thanks to a contingent of rollerbladers and bicyclists who wore body paint and little else. Pirates, gladiators, cowboys, drag queens, burlesque dancers and Goths mixed together in a colorful swirl of makeup, costumes and platform boots.
Members from the local chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union wore T-shirts that read, "I [Heart] civil liberties," while employees of Public Health — a group of gay seniors carried signs with slogans including "Love is ageless" and "LGBT seniors paved the way."
Seattle police reported no major problems on Sunday, said spokeswoman Renee Witt. Pride events are typically peaceful "and we don't have any problems with them," she said.
However, there were conflicting reports about a melee on Capitol Hill in the wee hours, during which vandals smashed windows of two businesses and damaged police cars. Witt said she didn't know the motive for the destruction but didn't believe it was related to Pride.
"I'm 99.9 percent sure the … group that caused the problems took advantage of an opportunity" and were "completely separate" from those who were celebrating Pride-related festivities, Witt said.
But Seattle Times news partner Capitol Hill Seattle Blog reported a possible connection at http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2011/06/26/police-bust-up-broadway-march-after-broken-window-reports-of-crowd-violence.
Earlier Sunday, the Rainbow Flag was raised atop the Space Needle. Officials weren't planning to raise the flag this year, said Space Needle spokeswoman Mary Bacarella. But after receiving an overwhelming number of requests, those in charge of the Seattle landmark issued a challenge about two weeks ago: Raise $50,000 for charity and the flag would fly.
The money will be evenly split between The Greater Seattle Business Association (GSBA) Scholarship Program, Lambda Legal, It Gets Better for the Trevor Project, which aims to empower gay teens, and Mary's Place, a homeless shelter for women and children.
Gonzalo Cortinas, an accountant from San Antonio, Texas, stopped to take a photograph of the Space Needle's Pride Flag from a parking lot on Fourth Avenue. "We're having a blast," said Cortinas, who, with his partner, Kevin Dix, has visited a different city each year for the past six years to celebrate pride festivities.
While parades in other cities always include local politicians and gay groups, Dix said Seattle's parade clearly represented the larger community.
"The community outpouring is incredible," said Dix. "You've even got kids dancing in it."
The parade's historic roots date to the Stonewall riots in New York City, when, in the early hours of June 28, 1969, police raided the Stonewall Inn in Greenwich Village. The Stonewall Inn was popular with some in the gay community, sparking spontaneous riots and becoming a defining event in the gay-rights movement.
On Friday — more than four decades after Stonewall — the New York state Senate approved a bill legalizing gay marriage. The 33-29 vote made New York the sixth state — and the most populous one — to extend marriage rights to same-sex couples. Eight other states, including Washington and Oregon, allow civil unions, which provide gay couples with extensive marriagelike rights.
Information from The Associated Press and Seattle Times staff reporter Susan Gilmore is included in this report.