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Barça will play five friendly games between 24 July and 11 August as Tito Vilanova gets his team ready for the new season
The team will also take part in the Catalan Super Cup in July and this year's Joan Gamper Trophy will be held on 20 August
The details of the team's final summer friendly were revealed on Friday and Tito Villanova will have five pre-season friendlies between 24 July and 11 August, ahead of the La Liga kick off on the weekend of 18/19 August- The five games will be played in five different countries as the new coach works on his plans for the 2012/13 campaign.
Below are the full details of the games:
Tuesday 24 July
Imtech Arena,Hamburg (Germany).
Saturday, 28 July
23:59: Raja Club Athletic – FC BARCELONA [0-8]
GrandStade, Tangier (Morocco).
Saturday 4 August
20.00: Paris Saint-Germain - FC BARCELONA [2-2]
Parc dels Prínceps, Paris (France). Le Trophée de Paris.
Wednesday 8 August
20:00: FC BARCELONA – Manchester United
Ullevi Stadium Göteborg (Sweden).
Saturday, 11 August
19:45: Dynamo Bucharest - FC BARCELONA
National Stadium of Bucharest (Rumania)
Hamburg is the only club that has always played in the German top flight and won the European Cup in 1983. But last season was their lowest Bundesliga finish ever
A great club in difficult times. Hamburg won the European Cup in 1983 and are the only side never to have been relegated out of the Bundesliga since its foundation in 1953, but they are currently going through the worst patch in 125 years of history. They finished 15th in the 2011/12 season, just five points above the playoff zone, their lowest position ever.
Glorious 70s and 80s
With the third best historic record in Germany, Hamburg have won the Bundesliga six times, plus three Cups and two League Cups, one European Cup and one Cup Winners Cup. Their golden period was the 70s and 80s, when the likes of Kaltz, Magath and Hrubesch helped put the club on the football map.
Downward spiral
The club that shares football passions in the city with Sankt Pauli has gone somewhat downhill since. They haven't won the league since 1983, and mid table finishes are more the norm, with relegation often a more likely destiny than the championship title. They haven't managed a top five finish since 2008/09.
Fink in charge
Last season was especially tough for Hamburg fans. After a dreadful start, the club sacked manager Michael Oenning and offered the job to former player Thorsten Fink, until then in charge of Basel. The team managed to avoid the indignity of the playoffs by just five points, and will be looking for vast improvements in the season ahead.
Four new faces have been brought in: Artem Rudnevs, Maximilian Beister and renowned goalkeeper Rene Adler. Meanwhile, Romeo Castelen, Mladen Petric, David Jarolim, Mickael Tavares, Sören Bertram and Paolo Guerrero have all departed.
The game will kick off at 20.15 in the National Arena in the Romanian capital
That completes the schedule for preseason games involving FC Barcelona, which also includes games in Hamburg (July 24), Tangiers (July 28), Paris (August 4) and Gothenburg (August 8)
Barça will be in Bucharest (Romania) on August 11 to take on Dynamo in the only remaining unconfirmed game of a preseason schedule that will mark Tito Vilanova's first games as manager of the first team.
The Dynamo game will kick off at 19.15 CET (20.15 local time), and was confirmed on Friday at the club offices at a meeting attended by the vice president for finance, Javier Faus; and a Romanian delegation led by Nicolae Badea, president of Dynamo; Mircea Copaci, commercial director of Dynamo; Mihai Craiu, from Media Consulta International; and Adrian Thiess, of Thiess Holding.
This will be the first time in many years that FC Barcelona have not gone on a preseason tour. Instead, they will be visiting a series of cities closer to home, namely Hamburg (July 24), Tangiers (July 28), Paris (August 4), Gothenburg (August 8) and finally Bucharest (August 11).
Previous visits to Romania
This will only be third time that FC Barcelona have ever played in Romania. They first went east in 1971, managed at the time by Marinus Michels, to face Steaua in the round of 16 of the Cup Winners Cup. A side featuring such stars as Rexach, Asensi (scorer of the only FCB goal), Alfonseda, Fusté and Costas lost 2-1 and crashed out of the competition.
They returned in 1977, and once again to face Steaua Bucharest, this time in the UEFA Cup round of 32. During Michels' second spell as manager, FC Barcelona won 3-1 to ensure passage to the next round, with the goals courtesy of Cruyff, Asensi and Sánchez.
The 40,000 available tickets sold out the very hour they went on sale
FC Barcelona announced that the tickets went on sale on the Club's official Facebook page this morning
If you wanted to go to the Manchester United-FC Barcelona match in Gothenburg you're out of luck. The 40,000 available tickets for the summer friendly sold out the very hour they went on sale. FC Barcelona announced, on the Club's official Facebook page, that the tickets had gone on sale this Tuesday morning.
It's worth mentioning that the preseason match between the 2009 and 2011 Champions League finalists will be played at Gothenburg's Ullevi Stadium on August 8 (20:00).
The match against Manchester United in Sweden brings the two Champions League finals of 2009 and 2011 to mind, as well as the preseason match played last season in the United States
The match that will be played on August 8 in Göteborg will bring back memories of the 2009 and 2011 Champions League finals. FC Barcelona and Manchester United will once again face off after two of the four Champions League crowns were decided between the two teams. Both the 2009 and 2011 finals saw Barça take the title by two goals. In 2009, Eto'o and Messi secured FC Barcelona's third European title (2-0), whilst in 2011 Pedro, Messi and Villa secured Barça's fourth Champions League trophy.
Friendly in Washington, D.C. in 2011
The last time the Azulgranas played against the legendary side managed by Sir Alex Ferguson, however, was in a friendly match. The game took place this past summer, it was FC Barcelona's fourth preseason match before the 2011/12 La Liga season. On the 30th of July, in Washington, D.C., during the first game of the North American tour, Manchester United beat Barça by 2 to 1.
Third visit to Ullevi
This summer's match will take place in Ullevi, at Göteborg's stadium, where FC Barcelona have played two official matches. The first was in the away leg of the European Cup semi-final, played on April 2nd, 1986. The game was won by the Swede side in convincing fashion (3-0). However, the Swedish team lost in the penalty shoot out in the return leg.
The second match in Sweden took place in the 1994/95 season, in the group stage of the Champions League. Göteborg also won that match by 2 to 1.
Besides the two official matches against Göteborg, FC Barcelona have also played four other matches in Sweden:
11/24/1974. Oster IF - FC Barcelona (0-3). Round of 16 in the UEFA Cup. Away leg.
03/20/1997. AIK Solna - FC Barcelona (1-1). Quarter-finals of the Cup Winners Cup. Return leg.
25/07/1997. IF Elfsborg - FC Barcelona (0-3). Friendly.
09/14/1999. AIK Solna - FC Barcelona (1-2). First match of the Champions League Group Stage.
FC Barcelona's first team will play its fourth friendly of the preseason at UIllevi Stadium in Sweden on Wednesday, August 8th, at 20.00. Barça's opponent will be Manchester United
Before the match against the British side, Barça will play against Hamburg, a selection of Moroccan players and PSG
The Azulgrana preseason is coming together nicely. FC Barcelona's fourth preseason friendly will be against Manchester United on August 8th (20:00), at Ullevi Stadium in Gothenburg (Sweden).
The friendly will be a replay of the 2009 and 2011 Champions League finals between the two teams. The finals in Rome and London bring back good memories for Barcelonistas seeing that these were the venues that saw Barça claim the third and fourth Champions League titles in the history of the Club.
On the 11th, final preseason match
It's worth mentioning that before the game in Gothenburg, Barça will play against Hamburg on July 24, a selection of Moroccan players on July 38 and Paris Saint-Germain on August 4. The last match of the preseason will be played on August 11, the location and rival will be announced in the following weeks. In addition to this summer's preseason friendlies, Barça will play against Sampdoria in the Joan Gamper Trophy on the 20th.
This year's edition of the Joan Gamper Trophy will reunite Catalans and Italians after the historic 1992 Champions League Final and the 1989 Cup Winners Cup Final
This is the second time the Genoa side will feature in the Gamper, the first time Sampdoria played in Barça's summer tournament was in 1997
For all Culés the name Sampdoria always conjures up memories of the 1992 Champions League Final in Wembley. A solitary goal from Koeman in the 111th minute in overtime against the Italian side crowned the Azulgranas champions for the first time in Club history. However, that wasn't the only time the two teams faced each other in a final. The Catalans were truly the bête noir of the Genoa side, seeing that three years earlier Barça saw the Italians off in the Cup Winners Cup in the Berne Final with goals scored by Salinas and López Rekarte.
Now, two decades after the final in London, Sampdoria will once again face off against FC Barcelona, this time in the Joan Gamper Trophy.
Second Joan Gamper appearance for the Genoa side
This will be Sampdoria's second visit to the Camp Nou for the summer tournament organised by the Catalan Club. The first time was in 1997 and Barça won the match in a penalty shootout, after a two-all draw. That match saw Rivaldo make his debut in the Azulgrana stadium. However, the first time both teams played against each other was in 1960 in a friendly played in Genoa. Sampdoria won that match by 4 to 0.
Ambitious return to the football elite
Sampdoria return to the Serie A after a year in the second division of Italian football. Despite finishing sixth in the regular season, the Genoa side managed to clinch promotion in dramatic fashion in the playoff against Varese. One of Sampdoria's go-to players is Nicola Pozzi; he scored the goal that secured a Seria A berth in the return leg against Varese. Sampdoria are embarking on an ambitious project to return to the Europe's football elite and regain the prestigious status of the historic Sampdoria of old led by Pagliuca, Mancini and Vialli.
The Italian side will face Barça in the Joan Gamper on August 20. The match coincides with the 20-year anniversary of the Wembley Champions League Final (which pitted Barça against Sampdoria)
Sampdoria will be FC Barcelona's opponent in the 47th edition of the Joan Gamper Trophy, which will be played on Monday, August 20, at the Camp Nou. This edition of the Gamper coincides with the 20th anniversary of the Champions League title won at Wembley. The Italian team was invited to participate in the summer tournament to commemorate Club's historic achievement 20 years ago.
Presentation of Tito's team
Estrella Damm, FC Barcelona's premium parter, will actively participate as the main collaborator of the 'Fiesta del Gamper Estrella Damm.' The match will also serve to officially present Tito Vilanova's 2012/13 team.
Sampdoria have returned to the top flight of Italian football after spending a year in Serie B. This will be the Italian side's second Joan Gamper appearance. The first time Sampdoria featured in the Joan Gamper was 15 years ago. Barça won that match in a penalty shootout.
Tickets on sale from 19th
Tickets for the 47th Joan Gamper Trophy will go on sale from Thursday 19th July. Sampdoria will put their tickets on sale as from 23rd.
FC Barcelona will play their third game of pre-season against Paris Saint-Germain at the Parc dels Prínceps on Saturday August 4th at 20.00hrs (CET)
Barça will be taking part in the first edition of Le Trophée de Paris organised by PSG.
The friendly match has been made possible due to Qatar Sports Investment's (QSi) continuing commitment to football. QSi "is proud to bring together two of Europe's finest clubs for this pre-season friendly", which promises to be an exciting preview for the season ahead for both FC Barcelona and Paris St-Germain.
Before the game in Paris, Barça will play a friendly match against Hamburg on July 24th for the German club's 125th anniversary, and against a Morrocan Select XI in Tangier on July 28th.
The friendly against Paris Saint-Germain will be Barça's 11th match at the Parc des Princes
Of these 10 matches, only three were against PSG
Here's an overview of the 10 matches between FC Barcelona at the Parc des Princes:
• May 26, 1952. Copa Latina. Semifinal. FC Barcelona beat Juventus Turin 4-2 thanks to goals from Machón, Basora (2) and Kubala.
• May 29, 1952. Copa Latina. Final. Three days later, also at the Parc des Princes, a goal from César on 79 minutes gave FC Barcelona its second Copa Latina.
• June 8, 1955. Friendly. FC Barcelona beat Racing Paris 3-5 in a match where Suárez, Villaverde (2), Mahjoub (O.G) and Mandi were the goal scorers.
• October 3, 1956. Friendly. As 12,000 spectators looked on, FC Barcelona fell to Racing Paris 4-2. Martínez and Basora netted for the Catalan club.
• November 29, 1962. Friendly. Goals from Fusté and Kocsis gave Barça the victory of Racing Paris - it was the third friendly in seven years between the two sides. Barça won 1-2.
• May 10, 1967. Friendly. FC Barcelona and Nantes draw 2-2 in a friendly where Silva scored both of the Azulgrana goals.
• October 9, 1974. Friendly. Barça face off against a selection of players from Remis and PSG. Cruyff (2), Marcial (2) and Heredia lead Barça to convincing victory (1-5).
• April 19, 1977. Friendly. The first real match against PSG. The game ends in a 1-1 draw (Cruyff was the Barça goal scorer on 79 minutes).
• November 13, 1982. Friendly. Five years later, both the teams face off once again. This time FC Barcelona manages to secure a convincing victory: 1-4. Quini, Maradona, Alonso and Morán are Barça's goal scorers.
• March 15, 1995. Champions League. Return leg of the quarterfinals. It has been more than 17 years since FC Barcelona have been at the Parc des Princes. It was a bad night for the Azulgranas, who were eliminated after losing 2-1. The two teams came away with a 1-1 draw in the away leg at the Camp Nou.
On Tuesday the first tickets have gone on sale to the general public for the game between Hamburg and FC Barcelona on July 24 (18.00)
Tickets for the first game of the FC Barcelona preseason are now on sale. From Tuesday June 5, and now that the period for exclusive purchase by members of Hamburg SV has ended, the general public can buy tickets for the game at the Imtech Arena on July 24 at 18.00.
Anybody wanting to acquire tickets for the first game in preparation for FC Barcelona's 2012/13 season, and which will mark Tito Vilanova's debut as head coach, can do so by clicking on the following link:
Tito Vilanova will make his debut as Barça head coach in Germany
Barça have been invited to play in the Bundesliga club's 125th anniversary match
FC Barcelona will play Hamburg SV on occasion of the German outfit's 125th anniversary at 18.00 on July 24, 2014. It will be the first Barça game of the 2012/13 preseason, and therefore also the first for Tito Vilanova in charge of the first team.
The venue will be the Imtech Arena, a FIFA 5-star stadium, built in 2001 with the capacity for 57,000 spectators and one of the venues used at the 2006 World Cup.
Hamburg SV is one of the most historic clubs in the country, founded way back in 1887 and winner of seven Bundesliga titles and the European Cup, won in 1983. In 2011/12, they finished 15th in the Bundesliga with 8 wins, 12 draws and 14 draws. Their top scorer was Croatian international Mladen Petric, with seven goals.
First preseason match
FC Barcelona will be taking the best squad they can at that time for the first of a series of preseason commitments. Further friendlies will be announced over the next few days.
Hamburg and Barça played two epic games against each other half a century ago
The last time the two met was in 1977
Well before Bakero's strike in Kaiserslautern (91/92) or Iniesta's goal at Stamford Bridge (08/09), there was another miraculous goal that kept Barça alive in the European Cup. It was scored by Sandor Kocsis against Hamburg – the team Barça are due to open their 2012-13 season against.
Kocsis miracle goal
The North German team now play at the modern Imtech Arena, but on April 26th 196, the 75,000 fans who turned up to watch the second leg of the European Cup semi final, did so at the Volskparkstadion. Kubala's Barça team had won the first leg 1-0, but Hamburg were 2-0 up in the return leg as the 90th minute came round, before a dramatic header from Kocsis meant a third game would have to be played(the away goals rule had not yet been instigated).
A week later, that game took place in Brussels and an Evaristo goal put Barça through into what turned into such a sad final in Bern.
Revenge for Hamburg
Hamburg got their revenge three years later in the last 16 of the old Cup Winners Cup. After a spectacular 4-4 draw at the Camp Nou (with goals from Pereda, Fusté -2- and Zaballa) the return game ended goalless and in the deciding game played in Lausanne, the German team won 3-2.
Two friendly wins for Hamburg in Germany
As well as those epic encounters, Barça have also played two friendlies in Germany, with Hamburg winning 3-2 in 1974 and 6-0 in 1977. Now, 32 years later, there will be another game between the two.
After Hamburg, the next destination for Barça and Tito Vilanova will be a friendly in Morocco on July 28
Barça 2012/13 will play the second game of the preseason in Tangiers (Morocco) on July 28, four days after the first game in Hamburg. FC Barcelona will also be putting together a series of social events in association to the match.
To provide further details of this second game of the preseason, the vice president for the Social Area Jordi Cardoner i Casaus, and the director of the Marketing and Commercial Area Laurent Colette will be giving a press conference in the Ricard Maxenchs at the Camp Nou on Wednesday.
During the presentation of Barça's preseason match, FC Barcelona's Social Area vice-president highlighted the fact that there are many Culé supporters in Morocco
The Club want to give the Barça fans and the official supporters clubs in Tangier, Tetuán, Alhoceima and El Jadida the opportunity to enjoy the team
"Football is not only an athletic spectacle, it's a nexus that unifies territories. This match has conjured up a lot of enthusiasm. The expectations on both sides are important. It will be a party for Morocco and for Barça," said Jordi Cardoner during the announcement of Barça's second preseason match. The vice-president of FC Barcelona's Social Area reminded the press room that the Moroccan community in Catalonia represents 3.5% of the population and that the Azulgrana Club boast more than 500,000 Moroccan fans on Facebook. Morocco continues to be a country that has many Culé supporters. In fact, there are official Barça supporters clubs in Tangier, Tetuán, Alhoceima and El Jadida.
Social events
Cardoner also mentioned the ongoing work done by the FC Barcelona Foundation in Morocco: "for example, the XICS Morocco initiative, which continues to work at a very high level." He added: "we'll find the appropriate time to meet with the official supporters clubs in Morocco, our people, and share the most social side of Barça with them. We'll hold social and supporters clubs events. We want to show the Moroccan people who we are and what are values are."
"It will be a popular party"
Laurent Colette, director of marketing for Barça, said that the game will be a "popular party" and that "Barça will play will all the available players at its disposal." Cardoner added that "Guardiola has participated with the planning of the preseason throughout his time as manager. Guardiola and Tito planned the [preseason] route. Now Tito has taken the baton," when asked about this year's preseason planning.
Morocco, fully committed
During the presentation, the Moroccan representatives said that the country is totally focused on Barça's friendly match in Tangier later this summer. "They [the Moroccan people] are 100% with Barça. They are eagerly awaiting Barça's visit. It's a unique opportunity for Tangier and for the whole of Morocco. I expect it to be a big party for the whole country," said José Carlos García, director of Safim Investissement. Assia Cadi, director of marketing for Sonarges, said that "our intention is to make this game a grand spectacle. The whole world will have the opportunity to watch Barça's starts in a very modern stadium." Finally, Chagna Khalid, representative of Safim in Morocco, thanked "everyone that helped make this a reality."
FC Barcelona will play a Morocco XI on July 28th at the Grand Stade in Tangier in the second game of their pre-season preparations
The game will be the fourth the Club have played in Morocco, with the other three played in Casablanca – twice in 1969 and once more in 1974
Tangier will welcome Tito Vilanova's Barça 38 years after the Club last set foot in Morocco when the team play at the 45,000 capacity Grand Stade on July 28th – four days after their opening pre-season game against Hamburg.
'Visca Tanja'
The game will played under the slogan "Visca Tanja" mixing both Catalan and Arabic and Barça will face a Moroccan select XI under the charge of one of the country's best known coaches Rachid Taoussi, who has won three titles this season with the Moroccan First Division outfit Maghreb de Fez. The visit of the Club will also coincide with a number of social action initiatives.
Three previous games
The first time FC Barcelona played in Morocco was on August 30th 1969, when they played for the Mohammed V Trophy in Casablanca. Their first opponents were the Brazilians São Paulo and Barça won 0-2 to go through to the final against Bayern Munich, who they beat on penalties.
Five years later, on May 1st 1974, the team were back in Casablanca for a friendly against the Moroccan team W.A.C., which they won 0-3.
Now, nearly 40 years later, the thousands of Barça fans in Morocco will have the chance this July to see Tito Villanova's second game in charge of the team.
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This statue, more than two meters high, is from originally from Raivavae, Austral Islands in French Polynesia. It is now standing in front of the Paul Gaugin museum in Tahiti. It was moved here by men from the Marquesas Islands - none of Raivavae's own men dared to touch the sacred statue, because that would mean disease and bad luck. It has six fingers. Did it hold something in it's hands?
The large Tiki Takai on the island of Hiva Oa in the Marquesas Islands in French Polynesia has six fingers. Norwegian Thor Heyerdahl and Swedish Bengt Danielson, both of the Kon-Tiki expedition, once lived here - and both wrote that many of the statues had six fingers. The statues can still be seen today, but already when Heyerdahl lived on Fatu Hiva in 1947 many of them were damaged.
Tangaroa is on of the most important Polynesian gods - the legends say that he separated heaven from the earth - some say he even created everything. The missionaries destroyed most of the statues of Tangaroa because he is always portrayed with a large penis. The wooden statue of the god Tangaroa is from Cook Islands. Tangaroa is said to have six fingers.
Not a statue, but footprints - on Tarawa, the main atoll of Kiribati. I found footprints after a giant, his wife and children in a schoolyard in the village Banreaba. They all had six toes. Erik Von Däniken found one untouched 5,3 meter long grave in Kiribati, where a giant is said to buried, but were unable to examine it. The people are very afraid of ghosts.
The statues on the Eastern Island (Rapa Nui) are perhaps most famous for their gigantic size, but did you know quite a few of the statues have six fingers? The Norwegian archaeological expedition in 1956/57 lead by Thor Heyerdahl made a notice of this. but Heyerdahl chose regard this as unimportant - was he wrong? You find people on the island today with six fingers!
"Birdman" from the Eastern Island (Rapa Nui). They say that the rim of Rano Kau became the center of a Birdman Cult. You will find simular "birdmen" in Peru and Turkey (Göbekli Tepe). Not six fingers? Well, somebody obviously retouched away one here - but why?
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The statue in the picture is from San Augustin in Peru, where Thor Heyerdahl to his surprise found statues that looked very much the same as the ones had had seen on Eastern Island and Marquesas islands. Some had six fingers too! And they look noticeable like many of the ones you can find in the ancient cities of Mexico and other places in Central America.
Petroglyp of a six fingered hand in Cueva De Las Manos, the Cave of the Hands, in the Pantagonian part of Argentina. The name Patagonia comes from the word patagón used by Magellan in 1520 to describe the native people that his expedition thought to be giants.
Another ancient drawing of a six fingered hand, this time Parque Nacional Sete Cidades, Brazil. In this national park you can find 1500 rock paintings that are between 3-6000 years old.
The Waorani-people of Equador shall have superior genetics, being some of the healthiest people in the world. Some have six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot often the characteristics of giants.
Kukulkan is a major deity of the ancient Central America, and many claim he must be the same as Viracocha, the Inca god of South America. Well, in the ancient temples of Mexico he is also connected to Pacal Votan. His son was Chan Balan, and everywhere Chan Balan is depicted in the carvings at Palenque, he has six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot.
A sarcophagus at the ancient ruins of Palenque in Mexico you will also find depictions of another person with six fingers. It is supposedly Lady Zac-Kuk or Lady White Quetzal, and she may have been an ancestor of Lord Pacal, a king of Paleque. Obviously a family with a six-fingers trait!
The Hopi Indians of North America claim that they originally came from a now disappeared land in the Pacific, but that they had to flee when the sea started to rise. Their legends are telling that their gods helped them to cross the ocean - that they first landed in South America and then moved north. One of them was the Sky- Kachina. As the other gods she could fly - and she had six fingers!
Not a statue, but: At Three Rivers in New Mexico you can find quite a lot of very interesting old petroglyphs. Several of them are showing hands with six fingers. The one in the picture seems to be reaching toward the sky, with a wavy design over it. Can it be a snake/flying serpent or the Milky Way?
Petroglyphs from Newpaper Rock in Indian Creek State park, Colorado, USA, are showing human feet with six toes - and also six fingers. This is the area of among others the Paiute indians, their legends tell how they killed the red-haired giants in the Lovelock cave of Navada.
Mesa Verde is a national park and heritage site in Montezuma County, Colorado, USA. At least one of the ancient petroglyphs shows a human hand with six fingers.
In Pueblo Bonito, New Mexico close to Arizona, USA, you will find footprints with six toes. And fingerprints with six fingers. The Anasazi indians came up here from the south, legends says. The legens also tell about giants they called Yethso.
Another footprint showing six toes. This time from the the Mogollon Rim of the U.S. state of Arizona.
Ok, ok - not a statue or petroglyph. But the film from what many say is of an autopsy of aliens from a UFO-crash in Rosswell shows six fingers. And there were supposedly found devices, where the UFO-crew put their six fingered hands. Click on the picture to see them!
Apollo 20 was a space mission cancelled in 1970. Some claim they actually went to the moon anyway and found a crashed alien ship - and entered it. They found two bodies; on a girl they called Mona Lisa. She had six fingers. They filmed her, click on the picture!
Catalina Island. Researcher and author L.A. Marzulli travelled to Catalina Island to take a closer look at a pictures of a skeleton that must have been 8 1/2 feet (2.60 m) in life.
Marzulli also discovered that one of the skeletons on the on Glidden's photos had six fingers!
Not a staute but a mummy! Pentawer (or Pentaweret) was an ancient Egyptian prince of the 20th dynasty, a son of Pharaoh Ramesses III and a secondary wife, Tiye. It definately seems from the picture that he had - six fingers and toes!!
The mummy is very unusual because it appears to have been embalmed quickly, without removing the brain and viscera, and to have been placed in a cedar box, the interior of which had to be crudely hacked to widen it.
He and his royal family has very long skulls, like Ramses II and Tutankhamund. And they came from the Black Sea area!
This relief on a temple in Esna, Egypt, is showing a man or a god or a pharaoe holding something in his left hand. Might be it would be interesting to know what he is holding or what he is doing or who he was, but anyway: Take a closer look at the hand. Yes - six fingers!
Clay-figure on coffin lid found in an ancient cemetery at Deir El-Balah, near Gaza in Egypt. The cemetery is said to be from the 13 century BC for high ranked Egyptian officers or Canaanite rulers. The figure on the lid shows six fingers on one hand.
This statue from Kiev in Russia is supposed to be 4000 years old. Some say he is an alien a kind of space-suit. I don't know, - and I am not hundered percent sure his has six fingers either, since I have not studied the statue. But if you try to hold your arms/hands like him, then the tumbs will be on the backside of your leg. He is showing five fingers.
Goliath, the famous giant slain by the later king David, was about 12 feet (3,66 meters) tall. He was one of the last giants, the Anakim. These giants were the offspings of the sons of God and the daughters of men, as citied in Genesis 6:4. Also Goliath, according to the Bible, he had six fingers and six toes.
The archaeologists found 9000 year old plaster statues at Ain Ghazal in Jordan. There had been human skeletons inside the now hollow statues. One of the statues had feet with six toes.
"Siren figures" from Olympia in Greece show six fingers. They were part human, part bird (or angels?). Originated probably in eastern Anatolia or North Syria, eighth or ninth Century BC. They might represent ancient giants; Rephaim.
The sumerian culture might be the oldest in the world - where sivilisation was born. You can still find sumerian statues and encarvings showing their gods - with six fingers. Their gods taught them everything - even mathematics based on the six digits system. No wonder - since they had six fingers! The sumerian believed that their gods came from stars - the Pleiads.
In the Monastery Shemokmedi at the foothills of Caucasus in the western Georgian province of Guria you can find a painting of a sixfingered angel. The site even predates the monastery's early Christian origins and there is also "Stone of Giant". According to a legend a giant used to terrify the village until Saint George was called to help. He killed the giant, as he had killed the dragon, and the grateful people erected the church for Saint George.
A stone image from the Iron Age found at Pauvrelay in Indre-et-Loire, France, has six fingers on both hands. It is said to be a flute player (but how do you play a flute like that?). Take a look at the statue from the Pacific at the top and notice the similarities! The hands, the six fingers, the neck/collar, the round face, the features! A coincidence?
Ireland: A fossilized giant was discovered during mining operations in County Antrim, in 1895. The giant was 12ft, 2in tall and had six toes on the right foot. The gross weight was more than 2 tons, so it took half a dozen men and a powerful crane to place this article in position for a picture. The giant was brought to England and exhibited, but was later lost.
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The news that Allen Iverson has agreed to play for Pablo Nuevo in the Dominican Republic for a month didn't come as a shock because Iverson has always been the kind of player whose heart pumped molten, pebbly orange rubber, a player who would keep playing until his body could no longer sustain him, and then play some more. He's a competitor in the mold of Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, or Kevin Garnett: guys whose only satisfaction comes from competition. A former NBA superstar signing on as a one-month mercenary in a small foreign league will no doubt be seen by some as sad or desperate, a reminder of the long, slow fade of players like Dominique Wilkins.
But I can't think of it like that because Iverson was in many ways the player who set me on the path to loving basketball. He's my radioactive spider, my government-replacing-my-skeleton-with-adamantium, my parents-getting-killed-in-an-alley-robbery. He's my origin story.
In the summer of 1999 I was living in New York City, but spending most of my weekends in the Berkshires in Massachusetts playing shows with my band. While up there, I would stay with the other guitarist/singer and he introduced me to the joy of NHL Faceoff '99 for the PlayStation. I knew absolutely nothing about hockey, but became infatuated with it over a summer spent pulling off one-timers and slapshots with the Dallas Stars. But ever since high school, when I'd adopted the Atlanta Hawks and Dominique Wilkins because they showed their games on TNT all the time, I'd considered basketball sort of my sport, even though I barely followed it.
That fall, along with a move back to Massachusetts came a Sega Dreamcast and NBA2K. It's borderline hilarious to look at the game now and consider how cutting edge it seemed then. Just look at the ridiculously buff Kobe Bryant in this clip at about 4:22:
But Iverson was the cover athlete and the game was unmistakably his, what with his ability to shake defenders and slither to the hoop. I played as his Sixers most of the time and had no idea who any of the other players even were, outside of the fact that Larry Hughes looked like Iverson and Matt Geiger looked like a nightmare. And so as I learned the game via the Dreamcast, I started following the Sixers in real life. In the same way that Dominique Wilkins had captured my attention with his larger than life dunks years before, Iverson captured it with his array of crossovers and hesitation dribbles. It was a way of playing basketball I was completely unfamiliar with and everything about Iverson, from his cornrows to his tattoos, said he was a new kind of player. He also might have been the last with a truly great nickname.
When "The Answer" took the Sixers to the NBA Finals the next year against the Lakers, he did it with people saying he was killing his team by taking too many shots, that he was a selfish player, that he couldn't make other players better. But with hindsight, it's possible to see that Iverson may have been the first player to make his teammates better by not getting them involved. How else can you explain a Finals run with this team? When your second leading scorer is Theo Ratliff, when Dikembe Mutombo at a conservative 34 years of age is anchoring the middle, when your team relies heavily on contributions from Eric Snow and Aaron McKie, is it any wonder that Iverson's usage rate was 36%? In the playoffs, Iverson averaged a shocking 32.9 ppg and just looking down his points during those playoffs is amazing: 45 against Indiana, 54 and 52 against Toronto, a string of 46, 44, and 48 against Milwaukee and the Lakers. Yes, they eventually lost to Kobe and Shaq (who earned my hatred in the process), but Iverson's 2000-01 season and playoffs surely stand as one of the greatest examples of grit and determination in the NBA.
But there's a flipside to that. Weirdly, Iverson played on better teams than that 2000-01 Sixers team with less success, and a lot of that is because of him. He demanded the team work around him and everywhere he's landed, from Denver to Detroit to Memphis back to Philly and on to Europe and now Latin America, he's encountered obstacles apparently greater than playing with Eric Snow. As it is with so many, his greatest strength is also his greatest undoing. When the team was all about him, he led them to the Finals. When he's been given more, he's done less. When he's done more—more passing, more deferring—he's gotten less. He's earned every criticism leveled at him, but he's also shrugged them off. So as unlikely as it might seem that he'll be arriving in the Dominican Republic on Sunday to play in his first game there, it's entirely understandable that he just can't stop playing.
To me, though, he'll always be the guy who did this to Anthony Daniels:
And if you want a longer look at Iverson, check this video hosted by Stephon Marbury (!):


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One of the coolest upcoming MMORPGs planned for release in 2010 is Astrum Nivals Allods Online. GamerSyndrome is working with Gala Networks to give away 100 free beta closed for the fourth closed beta test of Allods of Online. Gamers interested in acquiring one simply need to keep reading.
Simply click on the following link and follow the instructions for retrieving a beta key: Allods Online Closed Beta Key Giveaway
Additionally, if more than a 1000 followers join up to follow GamerSyndrome, theyll increase the giveaway to 200 beta keys.
The game is definitely worth it if youre remotely interested in fantasy MMORPGs. The questing is streamlined and the astral ships are an astounding sight to see gliding gracefully through a universe composed of liquid astral(?). Its a cool game worth checking out, nonetheless.
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In a week in which two NFC West teams (the Rams and 49ers) were on bye, the Seahawks and Cardinals went in opposite directions. Seattle bounced back from a two-game losing streak with a 30-20 victory that appeared to get them back into the NFC playoff hunt, and the Cardinals dropped their fifth in a row, 31-17 at Green Bay, with no apparent end in sight to their recent misfortune.
What follows is our weekly team-by-team take on the state of the NFC West:
What we learned: Shoddy first-half defense lowlighted by lousy tackling and too many dropped passes, among other continued offensive shortcomings, continued to plague the reeling Cardinals, losers of five in a row after a 31-17 thumping by the Packers. It became clear right away this season that the Cardinals would only go as far as their defense could take them. But in the past two games, Ray Horton's stop unit has allowed opponents to grab big leads in the first 30 minutes that have been too difficult to overcome — although the offense, to its credit, did show some grit in the third quarter, narrowing the gap before a 72-yard TD catch by Packers TE Tom Crabtree on a busted coverage on the final play of the third quarter proved to be a killer blow. We also learned that it's very likely youngsters like WR Michael Floyd, who displayed some first-round flashes (5-80 receiving), and OT Nate Potter are likely to be getting a lot more playing time at the expense of Early Doucet (two bad drops Sunday) and D'Anthony Batiste, respectively.
What's in store next: The Cardinals will practice Tuesday and Wednesday and then be off for a few days before beginning preparations early next week for their Nov. 18 road trip to Atlanta to play the undefeated Falcons. While five consecutive losses have turned up the heat in the desert, it's doubtful the team will make any drastic changes during their bye week, short of beginning to throw rookies like Floyd and Potter more into the fire with extended practice time. While many in Cardinals Nation would love to see sixth-round rookie QB Ryan Lindley also get more of a shot, there are no indications of that happening anytime soon.
What the heck? We already mentioned Crabtree's back-breaking TD. Equally irritating were the missed tackle by veteran S Adrian Wilson on Packers WR Randall Cobb's first of two TD catches; two fumbled punts (one lost) by the increasingly disappointing Patrick Peterson; two almost-predictable failures in 3rd-and-1 situations by the diminutive LaRod Stephens-Howling; and head coach Ken Whisenhunt's decision not to challenge a first down by Packers WR Donald Driver at the Arizona 21-yard line that looked to be a foot short.
What we learned: Overcoming a gargantuan performance by Vikings RB Adrian Peterson, who ripped off a 74-yard run on his second carry of the game on the way to an 182-yard rushing performance, the Seahawks got the second half of their season off on the right foot with a 30-20 victory featuring the team's best offensive performance of the season. Rookie Russell Wilson directed a mistake-free, beautifully balanced attack (190 yards passing, 195 yards rushing) and rifled three TD passes in the first half, including a pair to WR Golden Tate, who continues have a hand in most of the team's victories. The defense registered four sacks (at least one in every game this season) and turned things around impressively in the second half, allowing the Vikings only 59 total yards. Sitting at 5-4, with four games remaining at home, where they have performed quite well overall, the Seahawks appear to have growing potential for the NFC's sixth playoff spot.
What's in store next: The Seahawks will be getting a visit this Sunday at CenturyLink Field from a 3-5 Jets team coming off its bye. Before the bye, the Jets looked terrible in a mistake-filled 30-9 loss to Miami, but Rex Ryan continued to pledge his allegiance to beleaguered QB Mark Sanchez. Ryan also has indicated, however, that he plans to get Tim Tebow more involved in the offense. After having all kinds of problems tackling Peterson in Week Nine, the Seahawks' defense could have similar problems bringing down well-rested Jets RB Shonn Greene, especially if they are without their second-leading tackler, SLB K.J. Wright, who left the Vikings game early with a concussion (check status).
What the heck? The defense was initially very hard to stomach in Week Nine, coming off a shaky effort in Detroit the previous week, but it managed to get its act to together in the second half. After making a great play forcing and recovering a fumble that led to the Seahawks' first score on Sunday, veteran CB Marcus Trufant's ill-timed pass interference penalty set up Peterson's second TD of the game. There were also two not-so-special moments: Steven Hauschka's blocked PAT that snapped a streak of 249 straight conversions, and a time clock that clearly had expired before rookie Blair Walsh bombed a 55-yard three-pointer for the Vikings.
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2008 Winter TV Preview: Greek
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Greek - Season 2
Premieres: Monday, March 24, at 8:00 p.m. EST
Network: ABC Family
Creator(s): Patrick Sean Smith
Starring: Jacob Zachar, Spencer Grammer, Jake McDorman, Scott Foster, Paul James, Clark Duke, Amber Stevens, Dilshad Vadsaria
Website: ABCFamily.com
This rundown contains quite a few details about season 1 so if youre behind on the series, dont read any further! Greek is a dramedy series on ABC Family that follows Rusty, a freshman at Cyprus-Rhodes University as he tries to shed his geeky exterior by joining a fraternity. Pretty much all of the main characters in this series are in a fraternity or sorority. Rustys party-mentor is Cappie, the president of the Kappa Tau fraternity. Rustys older sister Casey was made president of the Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Casey used to date Cappie but broke up with him to date Evan, the president of the Omega Chi Delta fraternity. Thats the frat that Rustys friend Calvin was pledging but as of the end of the first season Calvin de-pledged (or at least, he left his pledge-pin at the house and walked out) after Ashleigh (of Zeta Beta, also Caseys best friend) accidentally let it slip to his fraternity brothers that Calvin is gay. Dale, Rustys roommate, is the only main character not in a fraternity. Hes a science nerd and an uber-Christian who believes greek life is only for heathens.
Things were turned upside down in the season 1 finale when it comes out that Jen K., a Zeta Beta pledge as well as Rustys girlfriend was actually a reporter for the campus paper. She did a whole story that shines a very negative light on the greek system based on things she found out as a pledge. Rusty ends up dumping her over it but we still havent found out how the article will really affect the fraternities and sororities. And speaking of dumped, after Frannie (having been recently dethroned from her spot as president of Zeta Beta and replaced by Casey) had a little chat with Evan about Caseys priorities, Evan decided Casey doesnt need him anymore and he dumped her. Meanwhile, Cappie hooked up with Rebecca, the Zeta Beta pledge who slept with Evan at the beginning of the season. Casey and Rusty headed home for winter break.
When Chapter 2 picks up, Cappie and Rebecca are keeping their new relationship a secret. Meanwhile Casey tries to manage running the Zetas and Rusty tries to get over Jen K.
I love Greek. It was one of the only shows that I actually looked forward to every week last summer when the first season aired. Cappies easily my favorite character but I also love Calvin and am excited to see what happens next for him now that everyone knows hes gay. The show airs on ABC Family but it's really geared more towards older teens and young adults. There are even references to things like Star Wars and other 80's movies and songs that'll definitely give post-college-aged viewers something to chuckle over.
Greek is just such a fun series and the pace of the show really works. There's the perfect amount of drama to keep things interesting and just the right amount of humor to keep the show from getting too serious. Im definitely looking forward to seeing how the Cyprus-Rhodes gang is doing.
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A packaging concept for the Apple Watch created the day after Apple's fall announcement. The concept incorporates a combined charging dock for both the phone and watch creating a unified and streamlined experience.Industrial Design, Packaging, Product Design2015
A short case study covering the design process of a logo and packaging concept for Hayden Flour Mills.Branding, Graphic Design, Packaging2013
Invitation created for the Electric Holiday event in New York hosted by Barneys and Disney. The design uses a ring of LEDs sandwiched between two mirrored panels to create an "infinity tunnel" effect. Was the winner of a GDUSA 2013 American Package Design Award. Photographs used with permission of Design Packaging Inc.Packaging2013
In-house concept for a shopping bag created at Design Packaging Inc. The pleated origami structure creates a masculine silhouette while the inverted bottom fold allows for the bag to fold flat for shipping.Fashion, Packaging2013
Threaded box concept based on a paper fragrance bottle found on Pinterest.Digital Art, Packaging2013
Creative gift card carrier concept that uses strips of cut paper to evoke the feeling of waves at the beach.Branding, Digital Art, Packaging2013
Sitting and discussing potential applications of the "lightning closure" flip top contraption that makes Grolsch bottles so recognizable, we began evolving the concept further. Some quick google research yielded that the flip top closure was patented January 1875 to then New Yorker Charles De Quillfeldt, we decided that after 138 years it was time to expand this concept a bit. The main question that bubbled up drove the concept, "why not replace the canned version with glass and lightning closure for wide mouth pour, and reusability?"
The larger opening, and increased capacity would increase the life of the package and give the branding a longer "shelf life".
Not sure the reality of this beverage packaging concept or the hurdles to market based on weight, and cost, but I'm liking the look of this packaging design.Creative Direction, Engineering, Packaging2014
Creative concept for a collapsible accordion style chocolate truffle box. The chocolates rise from the box as the top is pressed down. Modeled in SolidWorks and rendered in Keyshot. Was a winner of a GDUSA Packaging Design Award.Graphic Design, Packaging2013
A box design that twists flat for shipping and storage, which also creates a diagonal score across the sides and front that acts as an aesthetic element. After creating a physical mock-up, the final concept was created in SolidWorks and rendered in Keyshot. Logo designed by Michelle Vilavahn, a DPI intern.Digital Art, Packaging2013
These abstract light paintings were created using a small quadcopter at a nearby park.Digital Photography, Fine Arts, Photography2014
A line of original 3D printed robot miniatures that can be used as display pieces, game pieces, miniatures or designer toys.Character Design, Industrial Design, Toy Design2013
A concept for an electric door planer created for a student project. The concept does away with difficult to clean dust bags and instead uses a built-in chip bin. The design also features a fold-out front grip and tail latch that helps prevent the tool from flying off when placed on a surface while the blade is still moving. The concept was modeled in SolidWorks and rendered in Keyshot.
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A semi-rugged silicone iPhone case designed for Portable Device Outfitters. The ribs add extra thickness to the corners while giving a rugged look and feel. The interior honeycomb pattern adds a small air cushion to protect from drops and bumps. Photos used with permission of PDO.Industrial Design, Product Design2013
Lightstream is a central lighting system designed to intelligently control a room's lighting from a central location. The light is carried from the central LED unit to the desired location though optically clear silicone cables. Once the light reaches the endpoint, it hits a silicone optic which diffuses the light into the room. Having all the LED lights in a central location means they can inexpensively be controlled by a single small computer that is connected to the building's network and can be programmed and/or controlled directly through any networked device based on the amount of control desired. The high efficiency LEDs are kept cool by internal cooling fans to maximize lifetime and efficiency.Industrial Design, Product Design2013
A short case study describing the process of how I redesigned a yard tool set.Industrial Design, Product Design2013
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Electricity parastatal Eskom says that as temperatures begin to drop' it has had to revise its weekend maintenance plans in order to ensure that it meets the growing appetite for energy.
Mozambique was yesterday about to default on its debt as talks about rescheduling a loan from Russia's VTB Bank PJSC to a state-owned company faltered, according to a person familiar with the situation.
Barack Obama paid moving tribute to victims of the first atomic bomb Friday and called for a world free of nuclear weapons, during a historic and emotional visit to Hiroshima.
Jose Mourinho will forget what has gone on for the last three disappointing seasons at Manchester United, he said in his first interview after being installed as manager on Friday.
It took three separate injuries to Elton Jantjies and a knee lay-off to Jaco van der Walt, but Springbok flyhalf Marnitz Boshoff is finally back in the Lions starting lineup, for the clash against the Bulls.
If you've tuned in to the coverage of the Indian Premier League these past seven weeks and not seen AB de Villiers putting some hapless attack to the sword, don't go buying any lottery tickets.
Masters champion Danny Willett insists he will not risk the health of his family in pursuit of Olympic glory in Rio de Janeiro in August.
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First, a little aside. I took a DSLR photography class last night and realized I was making a grave mistake in my camera settings: I had my camera set on single-point focus instead of multi-point (more on focus points). Hence the reason that half my pictures would turn out blurry! If you've ever had those ah-ha moments when you realized that one simple trick that would fix all your problems, well, welcome to my world. :)
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This Saturday I repaired the angel eye ring in one of my Hella headlights. As you can see in the graphic above, the thing just flat fell off a couple of weeks ago and was loose inside the headlight assembly.
Before I took this headlight apart, I tried to get some direction from the manufacturer. I originally bought the headlights from a company called Bekkers about seven years ago. They tried to contact Hella, the company that made the headlights, but told me they got no response.
So I tried, and didn't get any help either. I called the toll free line and was told by Jeff that "Hella builds headlights to BMW's specs, we don't have any further material to share." Very disappointing, especially since over the years I've been very happy with these headlights. In fact, on the BMW forums I've been a proponent of going with original manufacturer (OE) quality like Hella, Bosch or ZKW rather than cheaper options when upgrading headlights.
Luckily it turned out my friend and fellow enthusiast Michel had this problem with these same Hella headlights, although his were the HID version. He told me that once removed from the car, the glass front lens of the headlight came off easily once you remove several metal clips holding it in place.
Removal from the car was pretty straightforward. Four eight millimeter screws hold the headlights in place, two of which are right on top and easily accessible. The lower right one is visible once you remove the plastic radiator guard on the E36. The lower left one is in cramped quarters and you need a rachet to remove.
Fortunately these headlights were "plug and play" for my car, meaning installation required no wire splicing. So there were only three electrical connections behind the assembly for me to unplug, one for power and the other two for low and high beam bulbs. Then I brought the headlight inside to remove the lens and reglue the angel eye ring.
The clips weren't hard to remove and the lens came right off. As you can see below, the glass was in great shape after so much time. This is credit to the quality of glass over plastic and to the Lamin-x protective film I put on the headlights when I first purchased them. I glued the angel eye ring back on and reversed the process. The metal clips were not difficult to put back on, with a little pressure they snap back into position.
The only drama to the repair was a sudden summer rain shower that had me scrambling to cover the headlight opening with towels until it passed. I also cracked my plastic corner light when snapping it back into place, which was pure user error on my part. I had overtightened the top left headlight bolt, which didn't leave quite enough room for the corner lamp to slide in. Oh well, those clear lamps are pretty old, I had bought them way back for my first E36 M3 and new ones aren't that expensive.
It feels good to have this fixed — the dangling angel eye looked horrible. I wish I could report a better brand experience with Hella. All I wanted was information so I could repair the problem myself.
The company was totally unhelpful, and anyone considering this expensive product should factor that into their decision. (Bekkers no longer carries this headlight but Turner Motorsport does.) There are many lower priced options for owners of older BMWs looking to upgrade their lighting. An angel eye ring falling off for no reason should not happen, plain and simple.
But I didn't need their help in the end. Credit the wisdom of the crowd with another assist on a DIY success.
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Oh well, those clear lamps are pretty old, I had bought them way back for my first E36 M3 and new ones aren't that expensive.


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I don't believe anyone loves being snapped by the paparazzi more than LeAnn Rimes. Whether she's running her mouth on Twitter or flaunting her noticeably thinner body in a bikini, Eddie Cibrian's wife laps up the attention that is given to her.
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- Call a family meeting and ask the children to say what they appreciate about their parents
- Volunteer to do something without being asked
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I thought I'd repost this today. It's with a heavy heart we mark the passing of a true American hero. Neil Armstrong died today at the age of 82. He made history on July 29, 1969. He was literally, a man that went where no man had gone before . . .
|Neil Armstrong's footprint on the moon
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Today GeoHot has released sample PS3 Linux isolated SPU loader code for those with OtherOS to experiment with following his previous announcement of the PlayStation 3 being hacked.
To quote: "Right now, I'm playing with the isolated SPEs, trying to get metldr to load from OtherOS. Interesting thing, I am not using the exploit. I always assumed the enable isolation mode register was hypervisor privileged.
It's not, it's kernel privileged, which means using hypervisor calls you can all get to it. So, get to hacking. Here is the code I am playing with.
I'm not that opposed to releasing the exploit, but I think the majority of you are going to be disappointed, even if you do get it working. Unless you have pushed the HV to it's limits, this exploit really isn't going to do much for you... yet.
So install OtherOS and start playing around. If people start coming up with convincing reasons why they need the exploit to go further, I'll release it. It's just a waste to release if people can't make use of it.
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I'm not even sure I believe that the HV restricts video card access, just that the OtherOS driver is 2D. If someone skilled in video card driver development comes forward, and they can explain in detail what the HV is restricting, I'll send them the exploit."
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That could very well be the reason for what Mr. Longabaugh has on his feet. Really more interested in what Cassidy has on. Apparently he is wearing his every day boots, where the other (visible) two are not? Wonder why?
- 6:50 a.m. June 30, 2009
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Back to square one. The only issue here is the claim that William Henry Long of
Duchesne, Utah is really Harry Alonzo Longabaugh the Sundance Kid. There are
many evidences that support our claim. Here is one clue that supports the
evidence: Grandpa Long had a picture of his two sisters that hung on the wall in
their home. The names of his sisters are Samanna and Emma. The photo of Sundance
with the Wild Bunch matches a photo of grandpa Long. Some coincidence.
If they are not the same man like the doubter's claim, why do the two men have the same sisters? That's even more of a coincidence. More yet: Grandpa Long's first daughter's name is Viola. Samanna's daughter's name is also Viola. Viola's daughter's name is Elva. She is my mother. Samanna's other daughter is Elva also. That's a fact! Now maybe all you old west historians can disprove this. But please, stop changing the subject. Good luck.
- 9:15 a.m. July 8, 2009
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Haven't been able to access the blog for a few days.So a belated happy
independence day to all you guys and gals out there.
More dumb questions:
1: re sundances declaration of barely having enough money for lodgings to David gillespie,where was Gillespie situated?
2: How did SK travel to fort worth from here 21 days later.?
The shoes question is interesting.Was it a case that the photograph was then planned by someone and that the five were told to hightail it to FW as soon as possible? if so were the suits rented or borrowed for the occasion,but shoes/boots more difficult to borrow?Perhaps that is a bit fanciful as the suits do seem too good a fit to be off the peg.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
- 8:14 a.m. July 5, 2009
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1.) MacIntosh store in Slater, Colorado.
2.) Took the train at Walden, Colorado. Ft. Worth was a place they hung out and partied. Read Selcer's "Hell's Half Acre." They had plenty of money they just robbed a bank and train. They needed this type of clothes to run around down south and back east. Probably some of them just forgot to get new shoes. Or----maybe the haul from Tipton was more than from Winnemucca. LY
- 5:12 a.m. July 6, 2009
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tartan cowboy,
1: McIntosh's store, Slater, Colorado
2: by train from Wolcott, Colorado, with BC
shoes and clothes, no idea.
- 6:45 a.m. July 6, 2009
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Tartan Cowboy:
Slater is across the Colorado line from Baggs, Dixon and Savery,Wyoming where the Wild Bunch celebrated successful holdups which they pulled off in southern Wyoming. Walden is in northern Colorado west of Ft. Collins and to the southeast of Slater.
The Wild Bunch was an outgrowth of the Powder Springs Gang which used to hide out to the west of Slater. Slater, Baggs, etc. were extemely isolated and made an ideal place to hold such celebrations.
The area to the south of Baggs is very reminenscent of the Highlands of Scotland and about as isolated.
- 5:32 a.m. July 8, 2009
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Wasn't there an alleged photograph of Butch in New York City sometime in 1902 or 1908? I can't seem to locate the prior comments about this on the blog.
- 12:47 p.m. July 8, 2009
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There are only two known copies of the original photograph of Harry Longabaugh
and Etta (Ethel) Place, supposedly taken at the DeYoung Studio, in New York
City. One was in the possession of the Pinkerton detective agency and the other
in the possession of Jano Magor, now in the possession of a Magor descendant.
The question is, was the original photograph taken at the DeYoung studio, or was
the DeYoung studio used to make additional copies of the original photograph?
- 3:07 p.m. July 8, 2009
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seriously, does this work?
- 3:28 p.m. July 8, 2009
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Kid Charter:
That's interesting. (Your information on the Bulldog Saloon photo was also very helpful.)
What do you know about the photo of Butch and Bert Charter on page 57 in Anne Charter's Cowboys Don't Walk? Do you think it's authentic? Do you know if there are any online sites with this picture?
- 4:04 p.m. July 8, 2009
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GUE- Why don't you call Anne up. She is in the Billings phone book.
- 5:56 p.m. July 8, 2009
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I've now got a copy of the Charter book,thanks to Bob.I can't say there is a very strong likeness with butch in my opinion.The two purported photos in Ed KIrbys book are more of a likeness.What you think?
Someone also blogged about the likeness between Ethel and another photo in the Charter book,i think he was refering to Maud Charter.
I have a particular interest in photographs it feeds the artistic side of me.therfor when looking at a photograph it's with the(frustrated) artists eye that ilook at them.It's worth remembering that it is amazing when we have two or more authenticated photos of one person just how unlike each other they can be.Age,angle,shadowand weight all make a difference.
- 1:32 a.m. July 9, 2009
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Just a thought:
That's a great idea. Didn't even think of that.
Tartan Cowboy:
I'm also fascinated with the visuals. Putting a face to the exploits seems to add real life to what I've read. and I think it was Butch (or someone else) who mentioned the politics of "verifying photos" (so that they fit certain "he came back" theories), which is a little frustrating. For example, I can't find a copy of the photos in Kirby's book anywhere! These collectible books are a little pricey.
If you're interested in potentially verifiable photos, I saw one online at a site called "Liveauction.com" a couple weeks back--supposedly given from Lula Betenson to a friend in 1957. the site claims the shot was taken in Robber's Roost in 1897 or '98. Same large jawline and similar growth patterns in the moustache, but I'm just not sure ...
Anyway, I'm off to call Anne Charter. Thanks again, just a thought.
- 12:42 p.m. July 9, 2009
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WOW!! Seeing the lack of diplomacy and maturity in these blogs, as well as the religious intolerance, really affects the credibility of the comments for me. How about understanding something before buying into the hype and perpetuating it? let's grow up people!
- 1:02 p.m. July 9, 2009
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I got the Kirby book on Amazon for around 3 pounds.It's worth keeping an eye out,i waited for a while.
- 1:14 p.m. July 9, 2009
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Kid Charter:
With regard to whether the photo of Sundance and Ethel was taken by DeYoung Studios, look at photo posted on the Wikipidia article on "Etta Place." It is in original pasteboard frame clearly marked "Bliss Bros." 358 Main, Buffalo. Bliss Bros. were in business in Buffalo New York in the late 19th Century and early 20th Century. That would indicate that the photo may have been taken on a visit to Dr. Pierce's Hospital. It doesn't change anything relating to the original issue of 1901 vs 1902 in Argentina, since the most accurate information relies on Argentine sources rather than New York sources (other than the purchase of the Tiffany watch.
- 5:24 a.m. July 13, 2009
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Are the Argentina documents more accurate than the Pinkerton files?
- 7:28 p.m. July 13, 2009
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The question then becomes whether the photograph was taken at Bliss Bros. on a visit to Dr. Pierce's Hospital, in Buffalo, New York. Then later Longabaugh decided to have copies made at the DeYoung studio, in New York City, that might explain the DeYoung frame, without the studio stamp, Longabaugh then mailed copies of the photograph with the DeYoung frame to friends, then again, perhaps the Pinkerton detective had copies made at DeYoung's??
- 12:39 p.m. July 15, 2009
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Last march the subject of the accuracy or lack thereof of the Pinkerton files was endlessly debated. The Pinkerton files make a good starting point for further research, but to a great extent are to borrow someone elses' phrase are "the sweepings of the bowels of an attic." Generally speaking, the New York files are better than the Denver files which lovingly repeat every item of gossip and rumor which came to their attention. The information as to bank deposits, brand registration, and application for land in Chubut fairly well establish that Butch, Sundance, and Ethel were in Argentina in late 1901. The name of the ship upon which they sailed and the date thereof is apparently based upon circumstantial evidence based on, among other things, the date of the purchase of the watch.
With regard to the DeYoung photo, I cannot picture Sundance and Ethel carrying the photo around with them down to Argentina, back to New York, and up to Buffalo to have an additional copy made. The Pinkertons did trace Sundance and Ethel to Dr. Pierce's. My assumption is they got a copy in Buffalo and had additonal copies made at DeYoung's.
- 1:03 p.m. July 15, 2009
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As regard the deyoung photo didn'nt Harry send a copy to david
gillespie,statingthat this was his new wife?
Horse creek cowbow:
The highlands of Scotland are very desolate indeed it must have been very harsh the conditions the guys had to put up with.
I'm very new to all this : as i'm sure you know. what is your perspective on what happened to BC/SK ?
- 2:50 p.m. July 15, 2009
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