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Love is out there for everyone. With the world changing everyday we as humans change along with it. Love drastically changes too. We grow older; different interests perk to us, or the Supreme Court rules on allowing everyone to bind their love. Finally, we are in a time where everyone can love and be loved.
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No matter where you have decided to throw your "BIG" day, it has to be special to you and reflect what kind of couple you and your soon to be are. Elegant or Rustic, Modern or vintage, or even if you are inspired by a favorite TV show or Movie-It has to have meaning to the two of you. It's your vision…and no one can tell you NO now. There are no limits to what you can do.
You can get married on a beach, on the tallest building, maybe jumping out of a plane…. or as simple as a small dinner for you and your family to celebrate together. Do you want something dramatic like a black tie event filled with vibrant red roses and black chandeliers? Perhaps Something more natural and laid back with the water or mountains being your scenery. Remember LOVE WINS so you could live in Alaska and come to Napa Valley to be wedded or even to New Orleans to have a French quarter celebration.
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|The ERC HQ: Heaven
But before revealing my genius, let's take a step back and see how the idea came to be.There were two triggers, which both came from the recent trip:
- The Parliamentarium. This is the latest effort by the EU to convince all the naysayers that the Parliament is not just an expensive way to straighten our bananas, but has actually, y'know, stopped neighbours tearing chunks out of each other for the last sixty years. And you know what? It's actually very good. What could potentially have been a deathly tour into the minutiae of supranational legislative processes is actually presented in such a way that it inspires and cheers you. So what if they straighten a few bananas? They've found a way of getting people to talk to each other on equal terms. Museums tend to dwell on warfare and horror, on sacrifice, grimness and, well, pustules. But here was one that focused on quiet determination and success through bureaucracy. That's quite a feat for visitors' centre.
- The ERC Headquarters. Like the poisoned characters entering Heaven at the end of Monty Python's The Meaning of Life, we stared around at our surroundings in disbelief. Choirs of angels sang away in the distance. Lions lay down with lambs amongst the verdant greenery. Little elfin children skipped happily around around our feet. This was the entrance to the Covent Garden Building which houses the ERC. It was exciting enough to be at the epicentre of pure research in Europe, the beating heart of the beast that discards all other criterion in favour of Excellence. But for the reality to match my dream! It was almost too much.
- 'Doom': This gives the public a sense of the grant writing process. It's a log flume ride. First, you go through a long dark tunnel that at times seems endless. You lose the will to live and are just praying for it to be over. However, before you know it the end is in sight and you start to panic. 'Wait!' you think, 'I'm not ready!' Whoosh you go, down the flume, and you feel momentarily exhilarated. This doesn't last. A big rubber hammer marked REJECTION hits you on the head and you enter the tunnel again.
- 'High n' Low': This is a giant, swooping rollercoaster that tries to reflect the typical reviews and grades for a funding proposal. Extreme highs! Unjust lows! Breathtakingly short! Interminably long! It's all here.
- 'Herding Cats': For animal lovers, FP7 coordinators and research administrators everywhere. You're given 13 cats, a rattle and a short piece of string. You have to try to herd all 13 cats through a complicated maze before the 'Submit' klaxon sounds.
- 'The Treadmill': There's a giant screen showing Isaac Newton, Charles Darwin and Albert Einstein doing a big, complicated experiment involving lots of expensive machines. They've just reached a point where they're about to solve a big, complicated question when - oh no! - the screen flickers and fades! It turns out that the screen is powered by sixteen treadmill 'grant' generators. Each has to be constantly kept going. If a visitors gets bored and steps off, someone else better step up! Ah the joys of the big project!
- 'Let's Interdisciplinate!': Visitors are given a random selection of five household objects. They have to work out how each can inform the others, and can benefit from the experience of the others.


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00:37:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12300 @ 0.00084533 = 10.3976 BTC [-]
00:43:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 267 @ 0.00040014 = 0.1068 BTC [-] {5}
00:47:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00084537 = 2.4938 BTC [+]
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01:08:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6227 @ 0.00084533 = 5.2639 BTC [-]
01:08:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 259 @ 0.00321385 = 0.8324 BTC [+] {10}
01:10:00 KRS1: .bait
01:10:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00337736 = 0.1013 BTC [+] {3}
01:10:15 KRS1: unf unF unF uNF
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01:17:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4707 @ 0.000092 = 0.433 BTC [+]
01:18:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 25000 @ 0.0000943 = 2.3575 BTC [+] {5}
01:19:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00084537 = 5.199 BTC [+]
01:19:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 567 @ 0.00369034 = 2.0924 BTC [+] {15}
01:44:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.04684184 = 4.6842 BTC [-] {11}
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01:49:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 25110 @ 0.00009584 = 2.4065 BTC [+] {5}
02:13:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.554 BTC [+]
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02:37:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00084537 = 7.1011 BTC [+]
02:41:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 63 @ 0.0045 = 0.2835 BTC [+]
02:42:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.55001428 = 3.8501 BTC [-] {3}
03:10:35 KRS1: .bait
03:10:45 KRS1: .bait
03:10:56 KRS1: .bait
03:11:05 KRS1: .bait
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04:11:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00084571 = 8.1188 BTC [+]
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04:24:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13000 @ 0.00084571 = 10.9942 BTC [+]
04:29:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 4847 @ 0.000097 = 0.4702 BTC [-]
04:44:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 35 @ 0.004 = 0.14 BTC [-] {3}
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04:48:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2700 @ 0.00084533 = 2.2824 BTC [-]
04:57:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 5000 @ 0.000098 = 0.49 BTC [+] {2}
05:07:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00395 = 0.1185 BTC [+] {3}
05:07:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [7C] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC [-]
05:11:11 lippoper: master
05:11:12 lippoper: .bait
05:11:26 lippoper: lol
05:11:28 lippoper: .bait
05:12:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00395 = 0.1185 BTC [+] {3}
05:12:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00084571 = 5.328 BTC [+]
05:12:17 lippoper: .bait what?
05:12:42 lippoper: wow
05:12:45 lippoper: such bait
05:15:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00395 = 0.1185 BTC [+] {3}
05:16:35 pankkake: artsy bait
05:16:37 pankkake: .bait
05:16:47 pankkake: she looks dead
05:16:48 pankkake: .bait
05:17:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 50 @ 0.00395 = 0.1975 BTC [+]
05:17:37 lippoper: that .bait was not good
05:17:48 lippoper: .bait how better
05:31:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [MS] 40 @ 0.005 = 0.2 BTC
05:33:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04799999 = 0.24 BTC [+]
05:37:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.048 = 0.768 BTC [+]
05:41:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.048 = 0.288 BTC [+]
05:54:54 Neil: .d
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06:00:34 lippoper: .bait
06:02:08 lippoper: .bait
06:03:54 KRS1: .bait
06:04:35 KRS1: .bait
06:04:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.048 = 0.576 BTC [+]
06:07:52 lippoper: wow
06:07:56 lippoper: such bait
06:07:59 lippoper: .bait
06:11:43 KRS1: .bait
06:11:51 KRS1: such fun
06:11:59 KRS1: .bait
06:14:45 lippoper: some of these aren't bait, just flat ass chicks
06:19:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.57196798 BTC [+]
06:21:37 lippoper: .bait
06:22:31 lippoper: lol oldest bait ever
06:22:33 KRS1: LIES that is not bait
06:22:36 KRS1: .bait
06:22:47 KRS1: Thats bait.
06:23:16 lippoper: that looks bait certifiable
06:23:18 lippoper: .bait
06:23:34 KRS1: fap fap fap
06:23:48 KRS1: she's got wood
06:24:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44650 @ 0.00084898 = 37.907 BTC [+] {4}
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07:05:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.049 = 1.323 BTC [+]
07:11:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 5 @ 0.025001 = 0.125 BTC [-] {2}
07:53:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00084748 = 2.8814 BTC [-]
07:55:42 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 50 @ 0.02649979 = 1.325 BTC [+] {2}
07:59:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13583 @ 0.00085037 = 11.5506 BTC [+]
08:13:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5444 @ 0.00084559 = 4.6034 BTC [-] {2}
08:46:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.57391889 = 5.7392 BTC [+] {7}
08:52:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00009123 = 0.2281 BTC [-] {6}
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09:17:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00535 = 0.535 BTC [+]
09:25:28 Neil: 1600 BTC on the 2bn now. Not sure it can get 1690 BTC for the record.
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09:28:23 KRS1: .bait
09:28:34 KRS1: .bait
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09:40:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1252 @ 0.00083083 = 1.0402 BTC [-] {5}
09:42:20 ozbot: Nickelback Next Contestant - YouTube
10:20:43 BingoBoingo: .d
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10:33:12 KRS1: hi
10:51:47 Neil: !help
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10:51:51 assbot: !rules <nick/chan> (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r}
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11:28:09 ozbot: Pastafarian minister Christopher Schaeffer is sworn into New York Town Council - Americas - World -
11:28:19 mircea_popescu: guy came to be sworn in with a calender on his head.
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15:12:48 nubbins`: hm
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15:40:45 mircea_popescu: "These guys worked for 10 years without pay. They have the right to have their work recognized with a diploma, which is nothing much these days."
15:41:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ever heard of the bogdanov twins ?
15:42:02 asciilifeform: nope
15:42:50 asciilifeform: or, wait...
15:43:33 mircea_popescu: the two guys that figured out the planck era.
15:44:14 asciilifeform: aha the french
15:44:26 asciilifeform: why remembered?
15:44:53 mircea_popescu: "All these were ideas that could possibly make sense. It showed some originality and some familiarity with the jargon. That's all I ask."
15:45:14 mircea_popescu: because i was having a dispute with some lambsy over hierarchy, truth and all that.
15:45:55 asciilifeform: make lambsy stuff his fingers in a mains socket. he'll learn hierarchy, truth...
15:46:04 asciilifeform: ... and power.
15:46:26 mircea_popescu: i don't want her to lose a nail.
15:48:53 mircea_popescu: anyway, how often does an onslaught against humanities constructed around the sokal hoaks end up blindised by a "o yeah ?! what about the bogdanov twins then
15:48:55 mircea_popescu: !!!"
15:49:18 pankkake: bogdanov twins are pretty much "tv scientists"
15:49:40 ozbot: Google Groups
15:49:41 mircea_popescu: o wait, you had them on tv huh
15:49:52 pankkake: got their phd because everyone was tired of them, and schemed to have it delivered by a prestigious school, though they had nothing to do with that school
15:50:37 mircea_popescu: i wonder what % of people are in their situation by now.
15:50:58 asciilifeform: "Igor and Grishka Bogdanov are long-time TV stars on
15:50:58 asciilifeform: french TV, with an act between science-fiction and scientific
15:50:58 asciilifeform: popularisation. I am a bit surprised that a faculty failed to
15:50:58 asciilifeform: *know* them as experts in mystifications."
15:51:52 mircea_popescu: afaik it wasn't deliberately constructed
15:51:54 mircea_popescu: no /
15:51:55 mircea_popescu: ?
15:52:11 pankkake: well, you end up having most diplomas wether you're good or not; most diplomas mean nothing. I certainly wouldn't hire anyone who has my diplomas and nothing else to show
15:52:43 pankkake: deliberately constructed?
15:52:48 asciilifeform: i'm all for a little 'lustration' of physics as a field:
15:52:50 asciilifeform: exam:
15:53:04 asciilifeform: lock candidate in a well-stocked lab, circa 1920.
15:53:22 asciilifeform: he must, say, construct a (working) triode valve.
15:53:31 asciilifeform: if he fails, he goes to Kolyma instead of physics.
15:53:46 mircea_popescu: pankkake yes, like sokal's.
15:54:08 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform problem with this is the chinese would produce numerous triode valve procuders.
15:54:12 asciilifeform: sorta like an adult version of the 'MIT battery' test.
15:54:25 ozbot: Bitcoin Mint Reopens After Nastygram From Feds | Wired Enterprise | Wired.com
15:54:28 mircea_popescu: you can probably train a well chosen monkey to make one
15:54:34 mircea_popescu: o hey.
15:54:34 asciilifeform: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIhk9eKOLzQ)
15:54:35 nubbins`: "But how do you know that the privkey inside matches the public key part? And how do you know the privkey wasn't copied by someone before being sold to you? This thing is far less secure than a downloaded paper wallet!"
15:54:38 nubbins`: so much comment fail
15:54:42 pankkake: it's not really comparable. sokal wanted to prove a point, they just were bad and wanted a phd
15:54:52 nubbins`: i don't have a third hand to do a triple-facepalm, so i'm using the table
15:54:58 mircea_popescu: pankkake yeah.
15:55:10 asciilifeform: you can train a monkey, yes. but the problem is to be unexpected and picked from a hat, like a soviet oral exam
15:55:37 asciilifeform: one fellow gets to make a triode, another, to measure speed of light to 1%, another...
15:55:38 mircea_popescu: so caldwell moving to "m,ake your own coin" model /
15:55:54 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i wish to see this boat of yours.
15:56:03 pankkake: I remember when on my programming exams some studends were protesting because the things they had to solve were "new problems"
15:56:11 mircea_popescu: lol
15:56:33 nubbins`: mp, not sure why he didn't do this in the first place.
15:56:40 mircea_popescu: i recall from my days in highschool that teh womenz mostly wanted to do again and again the same stuff as likely to show up on the bacalaureat thingee.
15:56:45 asciilifeform: you could improve virtually any field, not only physics, with Extreme Muppet Removal Algorithm (TM)
15:56:51 nubbins`: "you send me x+y coins, i keep y coins, mail you shiny metal, then send x coins to your shiny metal"
15:56:53 pankkake: it was first year though, second year was much more sane
15:57:01 pankkake: but that clearly was the result of the high school mentality
15:57:28 nubbins`: plenty of forum rage, "how am i supposed to know the coins are funded! who do i trust!" etc
15:57:33 mircea_popescu: the way they packaged it at the time was that womenz get scared in unfamiliar situations and therefore must "have practice
15:57:43 nubbins`: "things are different, my thinker doesn't work anymore"
15:57:46 mircea_popescu: nubbins` course you could make your own holosticks and fdill the coins yourself.
15:58:17 asciilifeform: this hologram business, why does anyone swallow it
15:58:23 nubbins`: these new ones will still come with holos
15:58:28 mircea_popescu: shuit up. it shines.
15:58:36 asciilifeform: coping holo is 1980s tech
15:58:40 asciilifeform: *copy
15:58:42 mircea_popescu: i once put a shiny thing on my cock and it got bigger.
15:58:48 nubbins`: that was a mirror ;p
15:58:57 mircea_popescu: haters
15:59:00 nubbins`: "shit, i've got two bellheads now!"
15:59:22 nubbins`: asciilifeform: and yet the only fakes i've seen have been brutally obvious
15:59:38 mircea_popescu: did the holo say GUC ?
15:59:49 pankkake: finding the way to make cocks bigger is the sure way to becoming a billionnaire
15:59:50 nubbins`: it didn't even use the same font
16:00:03 mircea_popescu: or did you end up with the CCI end
16:00:14 nubbins`: HEH
16:00:56 mircea_popescu: much low quality. such shitty.
16:00:58 mircea_popescu: why no cam ?
16:01:09 nubbins`: compare to: http://imgur.com/1rJZWvV
16:01:53 pankkake: oh, it's not an original because there is no original written on it. i get it!
16:02:19 nubbins`: haha
16:02:28 nubbins`: "this hologram is not fake"
16:02:36 mircea_popescu: nubbins` there's a tshirt idea for you :
16:02:40 asciilifeform: that last one - 'casascius' vs. 'casacius'
16:02:47 asciilifeform: (middle vs. sides)
16:02:47 mircea_popescu: "this is the original tshirt. everyone else is just wearing copies."
16:02:56 nubbins`: ooh
16:03:04 mircea_popescu: yw.
16:03:13 nubbins`: would probably fetch a higher price than my idea for bespoke public key shirts, too
16:03:16 asciilifeform: i've never even seen these before, and this part was obvious
16:03:32 nubbins`: asciilifeform, that's the infamous "hologram error" that noobs believe makes the coins more valuable
16:03:47 nubbins`: in fact, 1btc holo error coins are maybe one of the more common sorts.
16:03:51 asciilifeform: beautiful.
16:03:54 mircea_popescu: apparently caldwell couscous'd his own cascasname
16:04:00 nubbins`: a truly rare gem is a 2011 1btc WITHOUT a hologram error.
16:04:12 asciilifeform: i still don't get the appeal, maybe i'm just thick
16:04:28 nubbins`: the appeal for me is that i'm into coin collecting anyway
16:04:36 mircea_popescu: kinda like being the only guy at the swinger's party with a chick with total hysterectomy.
16:04:38 asciilifeform: if i want coldwallets in ampoules, i'll seal them myself
16:04:38 mircea_popescu: it's RARE.
16:04:45 nubbins`: it's like if you found a sexy woman whose pussy was coded in ASM or something.
16:05:41 asciilifeform: 'rare' is when you make 10 of something and they're the only such things on the planet
16:05:41 mircea_popescu: unrelatedly : did anyone know that obamacare specifies it's illegal to provide better health plans for top executives than you provide for rank and file clerks ?
16:05:55 nubbins`: even us canadians don't take it that far.
16:06:11 nubbins`: that's ostensibly very egalitarian, got my doubts it'll work that way in practice
16:06:28 mircea_popescu: fuck practice. how dares it pretend to work that way in theory.
16:06:36 nubbins`: heh!
16:06:47 mircea_popescu: who would pay taxes in a fuckuntry where they actually believe random clerk has the same right to survive as a ceo.
16:06:51 nubbins`: regardless of premiums paid?
16:07:03 nubbins`: like, the ceo can't even pay extra for a better plan?
16:07:28 mircea_popescu: well apparently the notion that if i pay someone 1mn a year i can afford to pay for better health care than if he barely pulls his weight at 10k a year is a mystery nao.
16:07:38 asciilifeform: nubbins`: ceo buys a plane ticket and then whatever he likes.
16:08:02 mircea_popescu: basically, "let's make everything equal, in the sense that everything should suck"
16:08:06 asciilifeform: the whole thing is a 'conspicuous benevolence' circus, not actual politics.
16:08:08 mircea_popescu: "imagine, all the money we'll save"
16:08:14 nubbins`: well, short people can only raise a bar so high, y'know
16:08:23 jurov: we have put together an idea - etch the keys to the metal
16:08:35 mircea_popescu: jurov what's that help ?
16:08:41 nubbins`: there was a discussion about etched keys and medical imaging equipment
16:08:49 jurov: cover the privkey with another piece of metal, solder together
16:08:51 nubbins`: and whether the resolution is great enough
16:08:54 asciilifeform: the 'btc coin' is about as interesting as those cars they had in the 1890s, the ones with... reins.
16:08:57 jurov: and apply the stamp to the solder
16:09:09 jurov: no flimsy holos
16:09:15 nubbins`: hm.
16:09:17 mircea_popescu: i doubt this is in any way stronger.
16:09:35 nubbins`: so like a picture charm?
16:09:39 nubbins`: but soldered together?
16:10:08 jurov: yes, like with wax. you'll have to recreate the stamp if you tamper with it
16:10:20 nubbins`: seems trivial
16:10:26 jurov: imho harder than to peel off holo sticker
16:10:35 nubbins`: why not just press wax against the seal to dupe it?
16:10:50 nubbins`: lel 80yo woman with teddy bear hat walked up the road
16:11:05 nubbins`: oh sorry, it's a wolf head
16:11:07 jurov: yes, ofc seal can be duped, but it takes some time
16:11:22 mircea_popescu: some time /!
16:12:03 jurov: it's harder than to figure out how to dissolve holo sticker glue, that's all
16:12:11 nubbins`: common solvents ;p
16:12:37 asciilifeform: try liquid CO2.
16:12:48 nubbins`: freeze it off!
16:13:14 nubbins`: i'm itching to try a few things, but i don't want to ruin a bunch of coins
16:13:38 asciilifeform: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/File:Physbitcoinkey.jpg
16:13:43 asciilifeform: this, i take it, is the scheme?
16:13:51 nubbins`: yeah
16:13:56 asciilifeform: what's on the other side?
16:14:05 nubbins`: the pubkey
16:14:14 asciilifeform: yes, but is there a holo?
16:14:15 nubbins`: wait the other side of what?
16:14:16 asciilifeform: or just metal
16:14:18 asciilifeform: the coin
16:14:22 nubbins`: just metal
16:14:27 asciilifeform: then you have your answer.
16:14:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14329 @ 0.0008479 = 12.1496 BTC [+] {2}
16:15:08 nubbins`: http://imgur.com/TOxg3pc
16:15:09 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
16:15:19 nubbins`: do i? :(
16:15:31 asciilifeform: slice metal coin with appropriate tool (excimer laser?), read key, fuse metal again.
16:15:36 asciilifeform: or drill with same, then borescope.
16:15:50 asciilifeform: hologram is untouched.
16:16:01 nubbins`: holo untouched, metal butchered
16:16:22 nubbins`: you're telling me you can half a coin along its height and reattach it?
16:16:22 asciilifeform: metal can be replicated with 19th c. tech.
16:16:34 nubbins`: hm
16:16:45 asciilifeform: http://site.spyville.com/spy-coins/spy-coin-quarter.jpg
16:16:52 nubbins`: heh.
16:16:59 nubbins`: would be tough to not roast the private key
16:17:02 nubbins`: it's just paper
16:17:21 asciilifeform: ever boil water in a paper cup?
16:17:26 asciilifeform: try it
16:18:13 nubbins`: that's a bit different, paper can survive comfortably at 100C
16:18:23 nubbins`: it cannot survive comfortably at the melt point of brass
16:18:25 asciilifeform: it doesn't even singe
16:18:39 asciilifeform: and laser doesn't melt, it sublimates.
16:18:48 asciilifeform: (unless you're a complete noob)
16:18:53 asciilifeform: re: drilling:
16:18:54 nubbins`: true
16:19:09 nubbins`: regardless, there'd still be enormous heat transfer to the paper, no?
16:19:17 asciilifeform: so you remove the heat on the other side.
16:19:31 nubbins`: uh huh. right. sorry, no coffee yet today
16:19:35 asciilifeform: peltier element stack. keep the paper at a comfortable 20C.
16:20:03 nubbins`: i was looking at peltier fans the other day, actually
16:20:23 nubbins`: my folks have a propane fireplace, but the fan obv doesn't circulate the heat when the power goes
16:20:25 asciilifeform: consumer cpu peltier isn't the answer here, you want a fat stack like the kind used in PCR machines.
16:21:10 nubbins`: well, when these unfunded coins start hitting the market, i bet there's going to be some experimenting going on
16:21:26 asciilifeform: re: fireplace: nobody cancelled thermodynamics. your main problem will be to find a cold object for the other end of the peltier.
16:21:37 nubbins`: the air in the room :D
16:22:46 nubbins`: i've seen ones that will run off the temp differential between the top of the stove and the ambient air
16:23:19 asciilifeform: that's pretty easy. your tea kettle does much the same.
16:23:29 ozbot: Ecofan® - Lee Valley Tools
16:23:44 nubbins`: lee valley is a wondrous place for tinkerers and fiddlers
16:24:21 nubbins`: wait, is this even the same goddamn tech?
16:24:46 nubbins`: yeah
16:24:57 nubbins`: wait, no. similar.
16:25:59 nubbins`: anyway, i think the main reason nobody's tried slicing and dicing casascius coins until now is because the premiums were always so goddamn high
16:26:15 nubbins`: and nobody wanted to potentially flush a couple btc down the drain experimenting
16:27:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.57363679 = 11.4727 BTC [+] {8}
16:27:20 asciilifeform: no need to use an actual coin to experiment
16:27:36 asciilifeform: brass with paper glued to it should suffice for a proof of concept.
16:28:09 nubbins`: hm, nod
16:28:56 nubbins`: i think the holo itself would shrivel long before the paper browns, but point remains the same. as long as you can keep the reverse (or is it obverse?) at room-ish temperature
16:29:33 nubbins`: a casascius spy coin, imagine
16:30:00 asciilifeform: other idea
16:30:11 asciilifeform: private key is presumably printed after hologram is made
16:30:17 nubbins`: yes.
16:30:20 asciilifeform: STM (microscope) the holo side.
16:30:26 asciilifeform: watch for bumps.
16:30:42 asciilifeform: ink has mass!
16:31:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16121 @ 0.00085016 = 13.7054 BTC [+]
16:31:10 asciilifeform: poor man's STM can be made with a pair of piezo speakers ($1-5 each)
16:31:30 nubbins`: i've got stacks of piezos
16:32:09 asciilifeform: think 'record player' but with a very sharp needle and on an x-y plane instead of spiral.
16:32:55 nubbins`: with a needle and a piezo, srsly?
16:34:55 nubbins`: huh. yeah, apparently <$1k in parts
16:35:38 asciilifeform: one kid did an $50 demo (a decade or two ago?)
16:35:47 nubbins`: !
16:37:20 nubbins`: i'm imagining repurposing a 3d printer
16:37:28 nubbins`: precise x,y,z control
16:37:54 asciilifeform: nope. you need oscillating analogue signal for the kind of distances involved
16:38:05 asciilifeform: 3d printer gives you 0.1mm/step at best
16:38:09 nubbins`: PWM?
16:38:25 asciilifeform: stepper motor is geared so 1 step = x mm. of belt travel
16:38:31 nubbins`: aha
16:38:44 nubbins`: .1mm might be okay, y'know
16:39:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.575 BTC [+]
16:41:00 nubbins`: once you get a handle on the font, even a fairly low-res image would narrow things down to a reasonable set of possibilities
16:41:23 asciilifeform: once you establish a way to pick up ink/no-ink on the holo side, the jig is up.
16:42:38 asciilifeform: you might even be able to use the piezo needle for x-y and a sensitive capacitance meter for the 'ink' signal.
16:43:00 asciilifeform: holo is aluminum, coin is brass, ink+paper -> dielectric
16:43:13 asciilifeform: treat the system as a grid of very small capacitors...
16:43:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.55660018 = 11.132 BTC [-] {8}
16:44:03 nubbins`: i'm about 70% of the way towards just giving you a coin to play with ;p
16:44:14 lippoper: .bait
16:44:17 asciilifeform: why count on others, do it yerself
16:44:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.54334699 = 10.8669 BTC [-] {5}
16:44:49 asciilifeform: btw, what's the thing printed on the top? 1st characters of key?
16:45:06 asciilifeform: if so, this means you can check your answer without popping the coin's cherry.
16:46:13 nubbins`: yes, correct
16:46:32 nubbins`: not quite firstbits, but you can check the code against a published list
16:46:41 asciilifeform: well then.
16:47:11 nubbins`: hence the derpiness of "how will we know the coins are funded?" regarding forthcoming self-funded coins
16:50:06 nubbins`: just clicking through related articles on wired
16:50:16 ozbot: That's Not How You Use It | Gadget Lab | Wired.com
16:50:16 nubbins`: lel
16:50:24 nubbins`: there's an article on how to properly wear a bike helmet
16:50:48 nubbins`: and another explaining the dangers of tightly wrapping your macbook's power cord around the brick
16:51:14 nubbins`: up next: 10 reasons why it's a bad idea to masturbate with a reciprocating saw
16:55:38 asciilifeform: china tests orbital laser cutter.
16:56:03 nubbins`: that's quite the tangram
16:56:06 asciilifeform: (as good a guess as any)
16:56:13 ozbot: LockWhip Bike Tool Demoed by Rider with a Deathwish | Gadget Lab | Wired.com
16:56:20 nubbins`: ^ pretty lelly video as well as article
16:56:31 nubbins`: "As you can see, the chap doing the demonstration is a qualified fixed-gear rider: With no brakes, he terrorizes pedestrians by running a red light at top speed and careers into London's Picadilly Circus. He also has the obligatory skinny pants with Kryptonite Evo-Mini D-lock in the back pocket. Rest assured: this guy is a professional."
16:57:47 asciilifeform: looks a little like: http://www.milsurpstuff.com/prodimages/PJTW1.jpg
16:58:06 asciilifeform: ('m16' barrel wrench. single-piece combo tools are nothing new.)
16:58:43 nubbins`: i like how they chose an asshole rider who blows red lights to demo their product
16:59:05 nubbins`: near the end of the video, he misses a bus by about two coats of paint
16:59:38 nubbins`: switching gears for a second, looks like this gem will sell: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/331103983219?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
16:59:52 nubbins`: ooh, pun actually not intended.
17:01:33 asciilifeform: wonder if just us having this conversation shaved a few pennies of the market value of these things
17:01:54 asciilifeform: crack one, crack them all...
17:03:01 nubbins`: there's a high level of irrationality present in the subset of people who are into these coins
17:03:29 asciilifeform: can't imagine it would survive a public reading of the key through the holo.
17:03:52 nubbins`: at decfon last year, they managed to remove a holo while leaving only slight traces of tampering
17:04:09 nubbins`: everyone then rushed to get their coins graded and slabbed, as if the cat wasn't already out of the bag
17:04:09 asciilifeform: 'slight' is not quite as spiffy as 'none.'
17:04:15 nubbins`: not nearly as spiffy, no
17:04:26 nubbins`: i still haven't seen a legit, undetectable unfunding.
17:04:43 asciilifeform: 'best way to predict the future is to invent it.'
17:04:51 nubbins`: nod
17:05:03 nubbins`: casascius started offering pgp custody chains
17:05:21 nubbins`: i took him up on it and have been offering to extend the chain to buyers. only one has taken me up on it so far.
17:06:07 nubbins`: to be fair, once the coin changes hands twice, a chain of custody is essentially useless
17:07:03 asciilifeform: well, chain of custody could help you avoid coins touched by people with dirty minds, like you and i.
17:07:53 asciilifeform: (though if i actually gave a damn about exploiting casascius, last thing i'd do is tell people about it.)
17:07:58 nubbins`: the devil you know, etc
17:08:44 nubbins`: one of the interesting things about casascius coins is that nobody seems to know how to price them
17:09:30 nubbins`: there are a handful of fools who insist on pricing via "2x/4x face value" and other nonsense
17:09:47 nubbins`: as if the face value of a coin has any bearing on its numismatic value
17:10:21 nubbins`: then there are the fools who believe their coins are impossibly valuable -- plenty of 25btc rounds with asking prices of 40+btc
17:10:42 nubbins`: as if somebody's going to pay a $13,000 premium for a round minted last year
17:11:07 nubbins`: i spoke to a guy who TURNED DOWN an offer of 30btc for his 10btc round.
17:12:26 mircea_popescu: i'm doing internet muppets today.
17:15:24 nubbins`: heh
17:15:48 nubbins`: mircea_popescu, ever read "the coming insurrection"?
17:15:56 mircea_popescu: i don't think so.
17:16:08 nubbins`: written by "the invisible committee", aka the Tarnac Nine
17:16:25 nubbins`: seems like the sort of thing you might enjoy reviewing, if not reading
17:17:39 asciilifeform: speaking of truly bizarre, for anyone who missed it earlier:
17:17:45 asciilifeform: "the answer lies in the sewers."
17:18:23 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-I6XTVZXww other bizarre
17:18:23 ozbot: ASTOUNDING: 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + ... = -1/12 - YouTube
17:18:33 mircea_popescu: nubbins` aite.
17:18:38 nubbins`: pdf, i know
17:18:50 nubbins`: it's not readily available in plain text
17:19:28 asciilifeform: neither is 'sewers', but definitely worth reading.
17:19:53 nubbins`: i first read this around the time "occupy" was floundering about. had a chuckle at one point where they decry the General Assembly as essentially the worst idea ever
17:20:05 nubbins`: meanwhile, 5k hippies in downtown NY...
17:20:39 mircea_popescu: nubbins` i guess i'll convert it
17:20:41 nubbins`: asciilifeform, i'm gonna bookmark this
17:21:20 nubbins`: mircea_popescu, i downloaded the printable version and read it as hard copy
17:21:41 nubbins`: easy print-stack-fold format
17:22:10 nubbins`: incomprehensibly, the printable version is english-only
17:22:35 nubbins`: ...
17:22:37 nubbins`: actually, sorry.
17:22:43 ozbot: The Coming Insurrection | Support the Tarnac 10
17:22:46 nubbins`: i think that's actually the complete text
17:23:25 nubbins`: "Another reflex is to call a general assembly at the slightest sign of movement, and vote. This is a mistake. The business of voting and deciding a winner, is enough to turn the assembly into a nightmare, into a theater where all the various little pretenders to power confront each other. Here we suffer from the bad example of bourgeois parliaments. An assembly is not a place for decisions but for
17:23:26 nubbins`: palaver, for free speech exercised without a goal."
17:23:34 nubbins`: that's rich
17:24:01 mircea_popescu: lol
17:26:09 nubbins`: k, gotta jet. peace
17:27:54 mircea_popescu: nubbins` why am i reading a french text in english ?!
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18:50:23 benkay`: the only fartup in which i'm taking equity right now is Bitcoin.
18:50:33 KRS1: did you guys se this
18:50:35 ozbot: Ripple Discussion • View topic - Peercover Simple Stocks
18:52:21 ozbot: Ripple Discussion • View topic - Peercover Simple Stocks
18:52:37 benkay`: "So if I own a business I can sell shares on ripple using your service? I will need to look into this..."
18:53:10 KRS1: looks like it
18:53:22 benkay`: if this person actually "owned" an actual "business" they wouldn't be "looking into" selling shares on some derpy ripple thing
18:53:43 KRS1: actually it specifically says you can buy/sell tickers tied to the ripple protocol with this platform
18:59:04 KRS1: hard to figure out what the hell anymore..such scam everywhere you look it seems
18:59:16 benkay`: if it's not actually a bitcoin it's a scam
19:00:03 benkay`: most of the time it's a scam of the innocent 'i want to derp a thing related to buttcorns so i'll poop some features and call it bitcoin 2.0' type
19:00:47 KRS1: so consider this..peercover is insurance but they also will now have an exchange for trading..doesn't this complicate their liquidity requirements
19:01:48 kakobrekla: kyle_torpey ENJOY YOUR MEAL, eveyone, kyle_torpey is having lunch!!!11
19:01:54 pankkake: bitcoin businesses seem to raise money when they don't need it, end up with a shitload of coins, and simply don't have any incentive to work
19:02:22 pankkake: whereas they could do most of the work before raising funds
19:02:32 benkay`: KRS1: where can i read more about peercover being insurance? their website has *nothing*.
19:02:40 KRS1: sec
19:03:52 mircea_popescu: KRS1 how is this new/noteworthy/whatever ?
19:04:05 mircea_popescu: and who's kyle
19:04:07 benkay`: also i ams in need of htmling and cssing does anyone in here have a recommendation?
19:04:09 mircea_popescu: and oter questions
19:05:17 KRS1: wow peercover site sux
19:05:20 mircea_popescu: benkay` alberto ?
19:06:03 benkay`: alberto?
19:06:08 pankkake: benkay`: what do you mean exactly, htmling and cssing?
19:06:32 mircea_popescu: yes, alberto amandi. an expert.
19:06:34 jurov: safety-compliant round corners?
19:06:39 mircea_popescu: read like "an hero"
19:06:59 KRS1: I found more information about peercover here http://ripplefederation.org/news/peercover-launches-distributed-insurance-platform-built-on-ripple
19:07:21 pankkake: I only do manly CSS. sharp corners, no shadows
19:07:43 benkay`: pankkake: mvp landing pages, 2014-compliant design choices
19:07:56 mircea_popescu: "only do mainly" is not english
19:08:01 benkay`: styling of web application stuff and of course hacking on legacy crap
19:08:37 mircea_popescu: KRS1 do you see any indication this is anything more or other than a purely nominalist rebranding of their old crap that was already beaten to shit in the marketplace ?
19:08:37 pankkake: mircea_popescu: manly not mainly
19:08:46 mircea_popescu: whoa i cnat raed.
19:10:35 KRS1: mircea_popescu my vote is no
19:10:56 KRS1: i tossed it out to the chan to see if anyone had an opinion
19:13:43 KRS1: mircea_popescu: it wasn't peercover exactly I was trying to get at here, it was their trading platform
19:15:20 mircea_popescu: the idea they're still pushing usagiesque nonsense...
19:15:27 mircea_popescu: crowd insurance. heh.
19:22:21 KRS1: thats a nightmare waiting to happen imo
19:23:01 KRS1: love this analogy: xrp, like worldcoin turned our lady bitcoin into a cheap whore
19:23:06 mircea_popescu: initially they thought they can buy their way into relevancy, and intelligent actors bleed them dry.
19:23:18 KRS1: haa nice
19:23:21 mircea_popescu: now they don't dare try for phase two of that, and so they're stuck waiting. it will probably be indefinite.
19:23:43 KRS1: they're hitting up angel investment in the meantime
19:24:26 asciilifeform: the funny part is that these folks would be richer, work less, and spend slightly less time in jail if... they wrote virii.
19:24:52 asciilifeform: and would be serving a useful 'ecological purpose'
19:24:56 asciilifeform: (put people off winblows)
19:25:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they'd be even richer, work more at shit they like working at and so on and so forth if they just gave up their delusions of self importance and agency and just found some better people to submit to.
19:25:26 mircea_popescu: in short, people rarely make the best decisions for themselves
19:25:36 mircea_popescu: it's out of that wastage that communities emerge in the first place.
19:25:54 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i specifically brought up crapware as a field where a modestly clever fellow could work without answering to anyone.
19:26:27 mircea_popescu: yeah, but their problem kinda is that they should be answering to someone. i can sorta see the loneliness in their actions.
19:27:00 asciilifeform: i'm not certain why you so readily conclude that they aren't happy 'wolf men'
19:27:23 asciilifeform: (in the medieval sense of 'rogue')
19:27:31 mircea_popescu: well... either because i'm naive or because i've seen happy wolf men and they don't look like it
19:27:53 mircea_popescu: a knave is not a rogue.
19:28:42 mircea_popescu: a knave is just a boy without a father.
19:33:27 KRS1: asciilifeform the problem with crapware is capitalizing on it, thats where the road ends for most..writing virii is the easy part
19:34:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 99 @ 0.00535 = 0.5297 BTC [+]
19:34:44 KRS1: lol @ <CiPi> And everyone must know, bitcoin will never be accepted by banks. NEVER. And because of this the price of bitcoin will rise like the price of cocaine in 1960.
19:35:17 asciilifeform: KRS1: crap artists (whom i hunt for a living, different story) never seem to have any problem renting out space on their crapnets.
19:35:39 kakobrekla: i wanna hear the different story
19:36:00 mircea_popescu: is it the phenomenology of cool driving it ? like he guy with the ferrari at burning man never having trouble "renting" the bitch ride ?
19:36:06 mircea_popescu: or is it actually economical ?
19:36:23 asciilifeform: maybe once i leave that work behind. i promise it isn't an interesting story though.
19:36:47 asciilifeform: most of what i see is profoundly disappointing in the intellectual sense.
19:37:26 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember your essay on spam?
19:37:29 mircea_popescu: i do.
19:37:33 asciilifeform: about how most spammers are cargo cultists
19:37:44 asciilifeform: who heard, of someone long ago and far away, turning a profit...
19:38:05 pankkake: it's very much like bitcoin mining
19:38:10 pankkake: profit is in selling the stuff
19:38:24 pankkake: I don't think it used to be as separate as it is now
19:38:32 asciilifeform: as a boy, i read about an 18th c. book, 'Triple Power over the Forces of Hell'
19:38:41 asciilifeform: that promised the reader that he could learn to summon devils
19:38:47 mircea_popescu: firstname.lastname@example.com
19:38:47 mircea_popescu: 22.214.171.124 Submitted on 2014/01/16 at 4:46 d.m.
19:38:47 mircea_popescu: {Entrepreneurs|Business owners|Internet marketers|Business people|Enterprisers} {and large|and enormous|and huge} {firms|companies|businesses|organizations|corporations} {should|ought to|must|need to|really should} {both|each|the two|both equally|equally} {take advantage of the|make use of the|use the|benefit from the|leverage the} {resources|sources|assets|solutions|information} {offered to|provided to|agreed to|wante
19:38:47 mircea_popescu: d to|told her i would} {U|Oughout|Ough|You|United}. {S|H|T|S i9000|Nasiums}. {クロエ 財布 新作 2013|シーバイクロエ バッグ 新作 2013|クロエ アウトレット|クロエ バッグ 人気|シーバイクロエ 財布 新作 2013}
19:38:48 asciilifeform: who would help him find treasures
19:38:54 asciilifeform: the book changed hands many, many times
19:38:59 asciilifeform: each time, for a much greater price
19:39:44 asciilifeform: i think back to this every time i read about the btc mining 'industry.'
19:40:12 mircea_popescu: at least in the 1800s it was a book
19:40:15 mircea_popescu: now it's a box
19:41:20 mircea_popescu: anyway, the quote above is from my own blog. cargo cultist got a spam script, understands some parts of how it works. ends up sending the unprocessed spinlist.
19:41:35 asciilifeform: worst part is that in this latter case, the devil occasionally appears and shits out a little gold, just enough to temp the sinner into being stupider
19:42:12 mircea_popescu: imo that's the good part, but hey.
19:42:59 asciilifeform: i do agree, it's far more interesting with fully-functioning devils.
19:43:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2350 @ 0.00084584 = 1.9877 BTC [-]
19:47:07 asciilifeform: getting back to the crapware: most instances you're dealing with a case of 'work 12 hrs. a day to make minim. wage while you sleep.'
19:48:16 mircea_popescu: i like that expression.
19:48:20 asciilifeform: most of the career spammers / crapware artists are based in parts of the world where the resulting pennies buy you something approaching a civilized life.
19:48:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm pretty sure i lifted that phrase straight from your essays
19:48:49 mircea_popescu: i came to it studying the warrior forum (*) years ago, when i noticed the unifying factor in all their textual emissions was a desire to "make money while you sleep".
19:49:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as someone who works 'with' these people, i think i have a bit of a psycho-crackpot angle on their driving philosophy
19:49:30 mircea_popescu: * it's a large, affiliate forum. people who eke out a harsh existence at the edges of economy, internet and legality. the guys who buy 50k clicks on site y to send to site x.
19:49:47 asciilifeform: they want to eat without submitting.
19:50:06 mircea_popescu: that part is fine.
19:50:11 asciilifeform: some of them, if they could be fishermen on some forgotten shore, would probably take it up.
19:50:20 mircea_popescu: i suspect the baby is thrown with a bathwater somewhere at some point somehow tho
19:50:30 mircea_popescu: because at the bottom line there's no baby.
19:51:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the most successful ones i've 'met' so far live in your home town.
19:51:29 jurov: ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:984a516497b5bbf7875262e65772f2c2155a07cc3d0a46a878f36fae
19:51:30 gribble: You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7
19:51:57 mircea_popescu: ha.
19:52:01 asciilifeform: (obligatory note about the traditional 'good spies' vs. 'famous spies')
19:52:16 nubbins`: re: french vs english, i have no idea. TANJ.
19:52:35 nubbins`: apparently french people don't want to print things, nor read web pages
19:52:51 mircea_popescu: ;;google here's a story from our town, of the prettiest girl around.
19:52:52 gribble: JOHNNY CASH LYRICS - Ballad Of A Teenage Queen - A-Z Lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/balladofateenagequeen.html; Rodney Crowell - Ballad of a Teenage Queen (with lyrics) - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNKOTdwtT3s; Our Town - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Town
19:52:59 mircea_popescu: there we go.
19:53:14 nubbins`: although a simpler explanation is that anglos find The Coming Insurrection much more interesting than francos.
19:53:27 mircea_popescu: nubbins` which is kind of my point.
19:53:31 asciilifeform: crapware is a very valuable psychological gauge of mankind
19:53:45 mircea_popescu: in french is just a banal term paper on the works of otherwise commonplace academics.
19:53:56 asciilifeform: in the sense that it spans the entire spectrum from 'idiot, how does he remember to breathe' to 'brilliant, jewel of the ages'
19:53:57 nubbins`: i think there's less of an "allure of the unknown" on these sorts of topic in french society
19:54:01 mircea_popescu: in the intellectually-desititute english language, it's an incendiary tract glenn beck gets all excited about.
19:54:05 nubbins`: for obvious reasons
19:54:07 mircea_popescu: here's the thing : the french actually still think.
19:54:23 nubbins`: they still think and they still kick up a stink once in a while
19:54:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i agree, and i propose to you it's because it is a free market.
19:54:42 nubbins`: by and large, the anglo world was long ago cowed into inaction
19:54:53 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: correct. and what's yet funnier, it showcases the 'marx' point about 'alienated labour'
19:54:56 nubbins`: and texts like that are essentially an edgy fantasy novel
19:55:32 mircea_popescu: that's a reading on it, but i doubt there's depth there.
19:55:42 asciilifeform: in that the true craftsmen stand to profit directly from their craftsmanship, while the idiots are doing it 'as a job'
19:56:07 nubbins`: speaking of craftsmen, installing some nice new countertops and cabinets in the studio.
19:56:23 asciilifeform: curiously, the uptake of btc among crap artists has, so far, been minimal. they are very 'tradition-bound.'
19:56:39 asciilifeform: the few exceptions tend to get hyped up in the media organs
19:56:54 nubbins`: http://imgur.com/bjLuDv9
19:56:54 ozbot: imgur: the simple image sharer
19:57:16 nubbins`: will be nice to finally have a place to lay things
19:57:20 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i suspect the premise that criminals are driven by a desire to acquire wealth is flawed here. crap artists aren't REALLY running a business.
19:57:25 mircea_popescu: they're trying to entertain themselves.
19:57:32 nubbins`: ooh, ^
19:57:44 asciilifeform: the good ones are clearly motivated by the pleasure of the craft
19:57:52 mircea_popescu: and the bad ones by boredom
19:57:56 asciilifeform: e.g. bulgarian 'dark avenger' and his intellectual descendents
19:57:57 mircea_popescu: in the end... kind of the same thing n'est pas.
19:58:03 asciilifeform: the bad ones seem to be motivated by... need.
19:58:16 asciilifeform: in the sense of a street beggar
19:58:18 mircea_popescu: i wouldn't believe anything poor people say that has "need" in it.
19:58:21 nubbins`: need mixed with lack of ambition, perhaps
19:58:25 mircea_popescu: i've yet not heard a case that wasn't a lie.
19:58:29 asciilifeform: in that very special sense of 'need'
19:58:34 mircea_popescu: yawell.
19:58:45 asciilifeform: 'ineedadrink, gimmme'
19:59:04 nubbins`: "I NEEDS A PACK OF SMOKES"
19:59:18 nubbins`: (verb conjugation is a very fluid thing here)
20:03:47 asciilifeform: in June, the fellow who wrote a popular trojan, 'Caberp', was pwned, and his whole disk posted for public amusement
20:03:56 mircea_popescu: what os ?
20:03:56 asciilifeform: if i recall, he was making about 1k usd / mo.
20:04:02 asciilifeform: winblows what else
20:04:29 mircea_popescu: so wait.
20:04:31 asciilifeform: it was the most valuable 'psychiatric' find in the field, because the disk was full of correspondence with customers and half-finished work
20:04:43 nubbins`: 1k/mo?
20:04:51 mircea_popescu: guy on windows pulling in 1k/mo is the nikki minj of viruses ?
20:04:52 nubbins`: that's like
20:04:57 nubbins`: below the poverty line
20:05:01 asciilifeform: remember: 'famous spy'
20:05:05 mircea_popescu: this is almost as much lol as the first time i got actual data as to what entertainers actually earn.
20:05:19 asciilifeform: 'most famous spy' != 'best spy'
20:05:48 mircea_popescu: dude they be rappaz. dey come take yo woman an' ride.
20:05:51 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: let me guess, not enough to sustain their lavish lifestyles? ;p
20:05:52 mircea_popescu: i read all about it
20:06:00 mircea_popescu: nubbins` what lavish lifestyles.
20:06:01 asciilifeform: there are mining nets 1mil+ strong.
20:06:13 nubbins`: you know, like renting out sports cars for video shoots.
20:06:24 nubbins`: or buying everyone's drinks at "the club"
20:06:34 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact that there are commecrial fleets worth >1bn does not necessarily mean any one ceo is living in better conditions than your average gulag campmaster.
20:06:50 mircea_popescu: you ever seen a star buy everyone drinks ?!
20:06:55 nubbins`: no D:
20:06:57 pankkake: http://www.osnews.com/story/27519/_OpenBSD_will_shut_down_if_we_do_not_have_the_funding_ (they accept btc donations)
20:06:57 ozbot: "OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding"
20:07:03 mircea_popescu: yay.
20:07:37 nubbins`: was surprised to learn de Raadt was canadian
20:07:48 pankkake: oh? I forgot
20:07:55 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why yay ?
20:07:57 nubbins`: maybe the only calgarian who doesn't work in the service, oil, or cattle industries
20:08:34 nubbins`: dated a girl years ago whose grandfather was an oil guy. he couldn't even keep track of all the places he owned land.
20:08:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it was my sort-of clever retort to nubbins
20:09:01 pankkake: openbsd = grumpy paranoid old guys so I thought it would fit in here
20:09:02 mircea_popescu: not my fault people spam the chan with stuff one could even claim is relevant.
20:09:19 nubbins`: the fault is mine on that point
20:09:30 mircea_popescu: pankkake how much do they need anyway ?
20:09:46 asciilifeform: ~20k, says
20:09:56 nubbins`: ^
20:10:00 asciilifeform: (usd)
20:10:27 nubbins`: less than 24btc!
20:10:35 jurov: they should make openssh issue spammy donation pledges every now and then. problem solved
20:11:06 pankkake: maybe people don't know that funds openssh
20:11:15 pankkake: and other nice things
20:11:25 mircea_popescu: donate via bitpay. heh.
20:11:34 mircea_popescu: well, does anyone know any of the devs ?
20:11:40 punkman: don't they need most of the money to keep testing builds on a bunch of old hardware?
20:11:40 pankkake: converted to filthy CAD
20:11:57 nubbins`: the new polymer bills can be washed ;p
20:12:00 pankkake: basically to fund theo's "datacenter"
20:12:21 asciilifeform: 'openbsd, running on dead squirrel in shoebox since 19xx...'
20:13:08 pankkake: http://www.openbsd.org/images/rack2009.jpg close
20:13:09 asciilifeform: (obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBLr4wbiR6E)
20:13:37 punkman: seems like a lot for just electricity, what the fuck does he have stashed in there
20:13:58 pankkake: old hw is power hungry
20:14:12 asciilifeform: looks like a microvax in there (mid-right)
20:14:15 nubbins`: probably using incandescent bulbs too, the bastards
20:14:22 mircea_popescu: i use incandescents.
20:15:13 nubbins`: well, CFLs are full of mercury and don't work in dimmers
20:15:22 asciilifeform: their ventilation probably eats more kW/hr. than these machines.
20:15:26 nubbins`: too bad they'll soon be -- no joke -- ILLEGAL here
20:16:12 nubbins`: you occasionally see people at the hardware store with a shopping cart full of incandescent bulbs
20:16:18 asciilifeform: nubbins`: there are persistent rumours of people buying crates of classical lights to speculate in, when the black market comes.
20:16:42 nubbins`: well, the issue i have is that my home requires heating nine months out of the goddamn year.
20:16:58 mircea_popescu: check me out in #openbsd lol
20:17:49 mircea_popescu: so far we're at **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 19 22:13:01 2014
20:17:50 mircea_popescu: Jan 19 22:13:01 * Now talking on #openbsd
20:17:50 mircea_popescu: Jan 19 22:14:04 <mircea_popescu> soo, who has the authority to make a deal so I can cover the 20k shortfall ?
20:17:50 mircea_popescu: Jan 19 22:16:24 <woopstar> mircea_popescu: you need to contact Theo
20:17:50 mircea_popescu: Jan 19 22:16:32 <mircea_popescu> how would i go about that ?
20:18:48 nubbins`: now, if i'm running electric heat in my home 9 months out of 12
20:18:58 nubbins`: i should be allowed to use the most inefficient bulbs possible
20:19:10 nubbins`: doubly so if i've got an oil furnace.
20:19:17 pankkake: environmentalists don't understand that
20:19:36 pankkake: they probably want to ban inefficient heaters
20:19:51 asciilifeform: what, one might wonder, is an inefficient electric heater?
20:19:56 pankkake: exactly
20:20:00 asciilifeform: one that radiates too much in RF?
20:20:07 nubbins`: i wonder do they understand that domestically-produced incandescents shipped in corrugated cardboard makes more sense than chinese CFLs in plastic clamshells shipped across an ocean?
20:20:24 nubbins`: asciilifeform: a light bulb is an inefficient electric heater ;)
20:20:40 kakobrekla: its efficient heater
20:20:42 asciilifeform: the CFL thing is cynical bastards knowing exactly what they're doing, rather than mere ineptitude.
20:20:45 kakobrekla: inefficient light source.
20:21:00 kakobrekla: im going led.
20:21:02 nubbins`: nah man, it wastes what, 10% energy producing light?
20:21:12 nubbins`: maybe the worst heater
20:21:24 pankkake: usually regulations like that come with requirements that allow only one manufacturer
20:21:37 pankkake: so it might not be chinese, it will be worse; overpriced crap
20:21:59 kakobrekla: its efficient heater compared to inefiicient light source
20:22:03 nubbins`: well i tell you, i busted three CFLs in my bedroom before realizing that they're not meant for dimmers.
20:22:11 kakobrekla: lol
20:22:32 nubbins`: almost started tearing out the wiring, decided to check the box
20:22:36 nubbins`: "...oh"
20:22:41 pankkake: some LEDs are good, but you have to hunt…
20:23:02 kakobrekla: mhm
20:23:19 nubbins`: i'll probably start moving to LED when the current bulbs start going
20:23:52 asciilifeform: i still have yet to see an led lamp that will evenly light a room without being the size of a small tv set.
20:24:18 nubbins`: well that's the other problem, the type of light
20:24:28 nubbins`: generally i find CFLs to be mercilessly cold
20:24:40 nubbins`: much too blue
20:24:48 Diablo-D3: you can get warm cfls
20:24:50 Diablo-D3: problem is
20:24:54 Diablo-D3: cfl cri is too low
20:25:10 asciilifeform: white led is based on the same principle as the classic fluorescent tube ('phosphour', but with IR led instead of gas plasma for the excitation)
20:25:25 asciilifeform: so in principle you can get any colour you like
20:25:30 asciilifeform: just need the right rare earths
20:25:48 mircea_popescu: curious if anyting comes of this.
20:26:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> the CFL thing is cynical bastards knowing exactly what they're doing, rather than mere ineptitude. << verily.
20:26:46 mircea_popescu: "currently coal burning means x mercury released in atmosphere per hour. we take that x and split it : 40% goes to atmosphere, 60% goes to your own house. but we're only gonna talk ofg the 40%"
20:27:39 asciilifeform: the luminosity/watt claims (transparently bogus, visit an electronics store) and the lifespan claims (chinese driver electronics in the lamp base)...
20:28:02 pankkake: I've had a lot of incandescents burn in less than 6 months. but it might have been the container's fault, too much heat
20:28:10 mircea_popescu: incidentally, the idea with led lighting is to go for spots i think
20:28:26 asciilifeform: on the other end of the spectrum... http://www.centennialbulb.org/
20:28:40 asciilifeform: ('underclocked' edison bulb)
20:28:59 pankkake: spots are great - I have really good lightning after proper orienting
20:29:17 pankkake: yeah, but underclocking is cheating
20:29:47 asciilifeform: anyone remember the bulbs they used to have in street lamps? the size of a man's head?
20:29:53 asciilifeform: betcha those would last decades at 100W
20:30:23 asciilifeform: the claims of 'bulb conspiracy' are not physically accurate, though
20:30:45 asciilifeform: as late as 40 yrs. ago, there was no way to economically regulate the current flowing through the filament
20:30:54 asciilifeform: except using the filament's own resistance
20:30:59 asciilifeform: (or that of other bulbs in series)
20:31:17 asciilifeform: but now you can use PWM, silicon rectifier.
20:31:33 asciilifeform: as in the dimmers commonly sold. (hence why they often buzz slightly.)
20:33:24 mircea_popescu: stil lin use here.
20:33:50 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the mega-incandescents?
20:34:02 mircea_popescu: yeah.
20:34:14 mircea_popescu: some haven't burned out/been broken in the more rural parts
20:34:16 asciilifeform: wonder if they're the same soviet caliber i saw!
20:34:17 mircea_popescu: so never got replaced
20:34:21 Diablo-D3: is anyone buying primecoin?
20:34:24 asciilifeform: 500W i think
20:35:23 asciilifeform: funnily: in wash.dc, the late-19th c. light poles near the Capitol and Smithsonian (museaums) are sized for those mega-bulbs
20:35:26 mircea_popescu: sounds aobut right
20:35:32 asciilifeform: but have piddling little CFLs in them for some years
20:35:39 mircea_popescu: (timisoara is teh first town in teh world to use electric lighting btw)
20:35:51 asciilifeform: many with the jagged wrecks instead of full CFLs - vandals
20:36:05 asciilifeform: comically small for the fixtures
20:36:08 asciilifeform: 'hot dog in hallway'
20:36:52 jurov: wait when they put LEDs in
20:37:06 asciilifeform: no LEDs here, afaik
20:37:41 jurov: well, over there in austria/germany they use linear fluorescents for streetlights
20:37:49 jurov: such 1930s feel
20:38:04 asciilifeform: they have those here too, at fuel stations
20:40:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00084584 = 14.4639 BTC [-]
20:41:51 nubbins`: mostly sodium on the poles here
20:50:50 mircea_popescu: ;;tslb
20:50:52 gribble: Time since last block: 27 minutes and 42 seconds
20:51:16 mircea_popescu: there's 3-4 blocks within ten minutes, then half hour off, then again
20:51:19 mircea_popescu: da fuck is this bs.
20:53:10 asciilifeform: new transformer at ft. meade, but fuse isn't to spec. blows every day.
20:53:51 asciilifeform: or: the mexicans left a lunch box in the cooling tower. so, jams.
20:55:39 mircea_popescu: i stil lcan't get over that quora byline
20:55:46 mircea_popescu: "the best source for knowledge", seriously ?!
20:56:47 asciilifeform: at least it isn't 'Google Knol'
20:57:03 mircea_popescu: just how ragingly uncultivated does one to be to be these days
20:57:04 asciilifeform: (ami the only one who automatically thought 'grassy knoll')
20:57:29 mircea_popescu: hehe no
20:57:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00084584 = 7.6126 BTC [-]
20:59:28 mircea_popescu: and again 3 blocks past 10 minutes
20:59:41 mircea_popescu: there's something very fucking weird at work here.
21:00:14 pankkake: yeah, statistics are weird
21:00:39 mircea_popescu: meanwhile, cheerleader auditions
21:00:39 mircea_popescu: http://noescapepublicnudity.tumblr.com/image/54594998334
21:00:40 ozbot: Castle von Dorkenstein: No Escape Public Nudity: Photo
21:02:37 pankkake: tattoos are probably not allowed for cheearleaders
21:03:27 mircea_popescu: why so square ?!
21:13:32 nubbins`: i think the shits came from that google knol over there
21:14:15 nubbins`: pankkake, then there would be no cheerleaders
21:27:08 mircea_popescu: he's never seen a tramp stamp :D
21:40:21 ozbot: Bitcoin 2.0 Explained: Colored Coins Vs Mastercoin Vs Open Transactions Vs Protoshares - Yahoo Voice
21:41:08 punkman: "Perhaps you will even be able to trade a protoshares-backed currency on top of Mastercoin for BitMastercoins one day."
21:41:26 pankkake: so many CEOs
21:41:30 kakobrekla: inception was shit.
21:44:16 punkman: Open Transactions seems to do some useful things, but they want to become a startup now
21:47:33 Duffer1: startup of what?
21:56:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 67 @ 0.00294 = 0.197 BTC [+]
22:03:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15550 @ 0.00084583 = 13.1527 BTC [-] {2}
22:29:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 102 @ 0.00294 = 0.2999 BTC [+]
22:39:05 mircea_popescu: <pankkake> so many CEOs <<
22:39:37 mircea_popescu: ceo is quckly becoming the new vp
22:39:47 mircea_popescu: im curious what;s coming up next.
22:40:11 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 200 @ 0.00175 = 0.35 BTC [-]
22:40:14 jurov: supreme excutive officer
22:40:54 mircea_popescu: megadirettore magistrale
22:41:07 pankkake: that shit is not really bitcoin specific, i've seen many open source projects get press coverage, even get funding (Diaspora*), when no one on board was able to really do the job
22:41:09 mircea_popescu: (duca-conte piermatteo barambanni)
22:42:22 jurov: haaaaa someone scalping x.eur
22:47:13 jurov: oh, and nobody charts it? gotta fix that
22:52:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13177 @ 0.00084767 = 11.1697 BTC [+]
23:00:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3880 @ 0.00084767 = 3.289 BTC [+]
23:12:58 KRS1: CEO..now I've got to start planning for my new position as chairman
23:13:34 KRS1: I sit in a chair every day. I know everything there is to know about it.
23:16:41 jurov: chairperson..you gotta be gender-politically correct
23:19:44 megadirettore_ma: damn.
23:31:22 KRS1: hey i have a friend like that
23:34:26 pankkake: that's how I imagine most of you guys
23:44:22 KRS-: for the record I'm nothing like that..not a redneck but drive a newer model diesel 4x4 truck and have a fast car for drag racing, but haven't messed with it in a while..go to bars with friends and hang out when i can.
23:44:50 lippoper: I've met KRS- IRL and I can vouch for what he said
23:44:57 KRS-: i barely know how to use my droid phone lol
23:45:01 KRS-: hey whats up lipopopop
23:47:32 mircea_popescu: is that slash
23:50:07 lippoper: whazzah
23:50:18 lippoper: gimme some
23:50:19 lippoper: .bait
23:50:25 KRS-: .bait
23:50:43 KRS-: there
23:50:59 jurov: not slash, i'm pegging it as pua cooperation
23:51:20 lippoper: wow nice
23:53:20 KRS-: Isn't that too much weight for a cyber punk's waif body to handle
23:53:41 mircea_popescu: lol pua coop
23:55:03 lippoper: flail
23:55:22 lippoper: why heavy
23:55:28 lippoper: much fail
23:55:33 lippoper: wow
23:56:28 lippoper: .bait
23:56:37 lippoper: wow
23:57:01 lippoper: middlecoin
23:57:07 lippoper: to tha moon


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The hotel at which I am staying for a 1 1/2 day NIH meeting provided either USA Today or the Wall Street Journal as a complementary paper. I chose the WSJ. Probably no surprise there. So, today I had the opportunity to see not only the news feed from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, but all the articles in the paper. One caught my attention (as I am a "winter baby"): "New Light on the Plight of Winter Babies" by Justin Lahart.
What is the issue here? Past studies have consistently found that, on average, babies born in January have lower educational attainment and earnings than babies born in other months. This puzzled economists for a while. Almost two decades ago, a pair of economists put forward the hypothesis that because of when it is legal for kids to drop out of school, being born early in the year made it possible to drop out at an earlier grade. As a result, the average January baby would earn less, although many January babies do not drop out. Other economists have suggested other reasons, but the best known is the early drop out presumption.
The reason that this blog entry is titled "questioning assumptions" is that the assumption throughout is that the babies born in different months are otherwise similar. In other words, birth month is relatively random and all mothers are just as likely to have a baby in any month. A recent working paper has suggested that the mothers of babies born in different months are quite different. Each year, mothers of children born in January were less likely to be married, more likely to be teenagers, and had a lower average level of education. In contrast, mothers of babies born in May had the opposite characteristics. What this suggests is that the babies (or at least the families of the babies who may have a large role in determining educational attainment) are not all the same. As a result, we can't say whether the effect of month is actually a time effect or is an effect of family background.
I imagine that economists will debate for some time how important this alternative explanation is, but the fact is that a basic assumption driving the old analysis is now questioned. Economists will also have to explain why there are differences in mothers associated with the month of their child's birth.
How could this be applied to analyses in health care? There are two examples I thin of immediately:
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(2) Not all infants are expected to be as healthy by their mothers when they are fetuses. The expected health of the baby may affect the mother's choice of when to initiate prenatal care and how much to get.
The key is that when we are not using a randomized study design, we have to carefully consider all our assumptions. Sometimes we have no way of assessing the validity of our assumptions. However, when we are given an opportunity to do so, we should take it and reassess conclusions as necessary. That way we can make more informed (and hopefully better) policy.
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We encourage our parents to ask as many questions as they feel are appropriate. Exchanging information is vital to ensuring our children's well being. We will ask our parents information about their child's routine at home, likes, dislikes and personality to help us better establish a good relationship with their child. We welcome children bringing along a favourite toy or comforter which helps to make them feel at home and we do not make sudden changes to a child's normal routine.
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Ranking Carmelo Anthony's Expected Suitors This OffseasonFebruary 28, 2014
Ranking Carmelo Anthony's Expected Suitors This Offseason
Simple question: If you were Carmelo Anthony, would you ditch the New York Knicks this summer?
If you've paid any attention to the NBA over the last few months—and New York's seemingly endless woes in particular—chances are your answer is a resounding "yes."
And rightly so: At 21-37 and a full 5.5 games back of the Eastern Conference's final playoff spot, the Knicks have clearly betrayed the promise that was portended by last year's success.
Sadly, it might get worse before it gets better: With few draft picks and little in the way of financial wiggle room, New York is liable to be a mess for at least another year—a year that Melo might not be willing to waste.
History will no doubt account for how he got to the Knicks—forcing New York to give up the bulk of its young assets in order to assure he received the biggest possible payday—but he can hardly be blamed for this year's devastating debacle.
|Time frame
If that's not a picture of a player squarely in his prime, what is?
Thanks to the structure of the new collective bargaining agreement, the Knicks will be able to offer Melo in the neighborhood of $29 million more than any other team.
But if he has designs on solidifying his legacy with an NBA championship, his sights might well be set on a more winning destination.
What follows are the top five free-agent destinations that Melo should consider this summer—what kind of pay cut he'd have to take, how he'd fit on the roster and, most importantly, what kind of championship prospects each brings to the table.
All stats courtesy of NBA.com and all salary information courtesy of ShamSports.com, unless otherwise noted.
5) Los Angeles Lakers
2014-15 committed salaries: $36.3 million
What Melo could sign for: Five years, $85 million
With all that money committed to just five players (assuming the Los Angeles Lakers pick up Kendall Marshall's paltry payday), the Lakers will either have to go well into luxury-tax territory or resign themselves to clever signings and creative accounting.
If Melo can be convinced to take a big pay cut, the Lakers could conceivably attract a bevy of free agents who would happily do the same.
Play with a pair of legends in Kobe Bryant and Melo while enjoying the SoCal sunshine? Not a bad existence, even at a discount.
Of course, Melo signing with the Lakers would call into question statements that he made last month during All-Star weekend, which indicated he's only interested in winning at this point. From ESPN New York's Ian Begley:
"Without a doubt,'' Anthony said Friday while in New Orleans for All-Star Weekend. "Any opportunity I have to build that up in New York, I'd do it. I told people all the time, always say, 'If it takes me taking a pay cut, I'll be the first one on [Knicks owner] Mr. [James] Dolan's steps saying take my money and let's build something strong over here.'"
Either that, or the delusions regarding his organizational situation must be at Knicks levels of grandiosity.
But the Lakers are the Lakers, and if Melo thinks he'd soon be joined by another big-name signing—Kevin Love or Russell Westbrook, perhaps—he might be willing to put up with a few more years of mediocrity for the sake of renewed title hopes in Tinseltown.
4) Phoenix Suns
2014-15 committed salaries: $33.8 million
What Melo could sign for: Five years, $80 million
The idea of Anthony signing with the Phoenix Suns would have been inconceivable six months ago, when experts in the league were chalking Phoenix into the NBA basement.
What a difference diminished expectations can make.
That the Suns have managed to hold onto the West's final playoff spot—however tenuously—is impressive enough. Their youth and upside are even more impressive.
Goran Dragic, Miles Plumlee, and Markieff and Marcus Morris are four players who have taken their own impressive leaps over last year. Throw in Melo and Eric Bledsoe, whose $3.7 million qualifying offer the Suns could go over the salary cap to match, and you have the makings of a high-flying offensive machine that any team in the league would be wise to respect.
So long as the Suns' notoriously penny-pinching owner Robert Sarver can be convinced to get out of his own way, Melo could become the face of a new brand of showtime basketball.
3) Atlanta Hawks
2014-15 committed salaries: $47.9 million
What Melo could sign for: Five years, $75 million
Despite losing both Joe Johnson and Josh Smith over the past two years, the Atlanta Hawks have emerged as one of the league's more exciting young teams.
Buoyed by Al Horford—who, despite missing most of this season with a torn pectoral muscle, will likely remain in Atlanta through 2016—and frontcourt mate Paul Millsap, the Hawks have leveraged a combination of solid role players and promising youth to make themselves an appealing destination heading into the summer.
Adding Melo would give Atlanta arguably the league's most formidable frontcourt. With emerging point guard Jeff Teague marshaling first-year coach (and Gregg Popovich disciple) Mike Budenholzer's pass-happy, San Antonio Spurs-like offense, the Hawks could soon have all the makings of a legitimate threat in a weak Eastern Conference.
It might not hold the glamour and glitz of an LA or New York or the rock-solid legacy of the Chicago Bulls, but Atlanta would give Melo a chance to thrive far from Manhattan's maddening media cauldron.
2) New York Knicks
2014-15 committed salaries: $90.8 million
What Melo could sign for: Anywhere from five years, $80 million to five years, $129 million
You knew this was coming eventually, right?
Taking into account Melo's comments about accepting less money to help the Knicks get back on track, New York offers a level of familiarity and celebrity that can't be duplicated.
Obviously, James Dolan will have to dig even deeper into his wallet to make that happen. He's done so before: During the 2005-06 season, New York's salaries totaled a whopping $124 million or about $62.3 million above the tax line.
And that was for a team that won 23 games.
Dolan might be a bit more gun-shy this time around, but with Melo in place and the pressure ratcheting up with every banner-less year, New York's mercurial owner could be willing to meet the star halfway: Sign for less, and I'll go out and get you more weapons, cost be damned.
It would be quite the gambit, to be sure. More importantly for Knicks fans, it would be as solid an indication as any that loyalty ranks highly on Anthony's list of values.
1) Chicago Bulls
2014-15 committed salaries: $63.8 million
What Melo could sign for: Five years, $75 million
We know, we know: such sacrilege!
Like the Suns, the Chicago Bulls have garnered a reputation for being exceedingly frugal over the years, never wanting to wade too far into the luxury-tax waters.
If, however, Chicago decides to amnesty Carlo Boozer, thereby recouping most of the $16.8 million owed to him in 2014-15 (the Bulls would have to pay the difference between his original salary and whatever new contract he signs), the team could conceivably offer Melo the best of both worlds: A healthy team back on the path toward contention and a tidy little payday to boot.
However, depending on how much Melo demands, the Bulls could be forced to part ways with Taj Gibson and Mike Dunleavy (roughly $11 million), not to mention possibly renouncing the rights to prospect Nikola Mirotic.
The bigger X-factor here, of course, is the health of Derrick Rose, who suffered the second knee injury in as many years on November 22. Assuming he comes back at something resembling full capacity, Chicago would boast a legitimate two-way threat: Melo and Rose's scoring, along with the defensive presence of Joakim Noah, Taj Gibson (if he stays) and Jimmy Butler.
Obviously, it's difficult to imagine any scenario rubbing New Yorkers rawer than one of their own chasing a championship with a sworn enemy.
At the same time, it's hard to deny the logic—both financial and professional—of Melo making hay in Chi-Town.
ESPN's Mike Wilbon quoted one NBA scout who believed that not even Anthony's sketchy defensive reputation would be enough to dissuade the Bulls from pulling the trigger—assuming they give themselves the chance:
The fatal mistake the Knicks made is that they brought Carmelo to New York to be the guy who makes everybody else better, and that's not who he is. Carmelo is a guy who needs teammates, and he'd have those [in Chicago]. He scores. He doesn't make other teammates better ... though his scoring and his presence will make the game easier for others. It would take some weight off of Rose. When Rose plays against Miami they swarm and blitz him ... What Carmelo would give [the Bulls] is an alternative. What he could do is finish games.
A Daunting Decision
We know what you're thinking: No mention of the Miami Heat? Absurd!
Here's the thing about the Heat: Even though LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh all hold an early-termination option on their contracts, it's important to remember that those were initially implemented just in case the Big Three experiment happened to fail.
Miami's troika has simply built too good a thing for any of them to seriously consider walking now. Should that come to pass, it might be worth re-evaluating Melo's options, but until then, it remains too far afield to warrant serious consideration.
How the Knicks finish the season—whether they make one last miracle run at the playoffs or find themselves buried in a hole that they dug too deeply—will likely factor into whether Anthony stays or goes.
In the meantime, expect the free-agency whispers to only get louder, as one of the game's most uniquely talented stars inches closer to a decision that could not only shape his legacy but alter the NBA's power structure as well.


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I realize I am a bit late to the show, but I just adore this blog 1000 Awesome Things. I love the reminders of all of the small but beautiful, happy, amazing details of daily life! I have so much fun sharing my Daily Details of design here and so just had to share more happy details. Here are few things that make me smile!
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Welcome back!
I thought I would start a segment on some of the unreleased tracks that never made Michael's albums.Michael would write over a hundred songs for each album. However, it is such a statement to Michael Jackson that these songs were worthy of any other album, yet such was the quality of the other songs on his albums, that these songs never made it. If you haven't heard these songs before, I hope you enjoy them.
Love Never Felt So Good
This beautiful song, written by MJ in 1983, showcased Michael's great vocals and had a great harmony complimented by his finger snaps. One of my favourite MJ songs, however unfortunately the song didn't make the Thriller album. This track is definitely worth a listen to hear his range and versatility.
Slave to the Rhythm
This song, which was produced by Tricky Stewart, didn't make the Invincible album. The dance anthem sound was prominent during the time it was written in 1998. This song is timeless and could well have been in the charts today.
There Must Be More To Life Than This
Michael and Freddie formed a good friendship during this period. This was one of three songs that Michael worked on with Queen's Freddie Mercury in 1983. Freddie also wrote and performed "State of Shock" with Michael. The duet features two of the world's greatest ever performers, both of whom passed away far too soon.
We Be Ballin'
Michael wrote this song in 1998, a remix was to be released on a NBA compilation album scheduled for the end of 1997 and was also going to be featured in commercials for NBA's "I Love This Game" campaign but went unreleased due to a player strike that season. The song featured Ice Cube and Shaquille O'Neal and showcased Michael's skill as an R'N'B singer.
I hope you enjoyed these songs. There are hundreds more which I will pick from in the coming weeks.
*** Also Happy 30th anniversary to the moonwalk which was showcased yesterday the 26th March for the first time in 1983, at Motown 25. Here's a reminder of that special performance to enjoy once more.


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Check out the new KidsStop early interactive literary centre at the new #Scarborough civic centre branch. It has an environmental theme and is packed with lots of fun activities for little ones. Have a great weekend! #scarbTO
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