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Washington (CNN) – The fastest growing "religious" group in America is made up of people with no religion at all, according to a Pew survey showing that one in five Americans is not affiliated with any religion.
The number of these Americans has grown by 25% just in the past five years, according to a survey released Thursday by the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life.
The survey found that the ranks of the unaffiliated are growing even faster among younger Americans.
Thirty-three million Americans now have no religious affiliation, with 13 million in that group identifying as either atheist or agnostic, according to the new survey.
Pew found that those who are religiously unaffiliated are strikingly less religious than the public at large. They attend church infrequently, if at all, are largely not seeking out religion and say that the lack of it in their lives is of little importance.
And yet Pew found that 68% of the religiously unaffiliated say they believe in God, while 37% describe themselves as "spiritual" but not "religious." One in five said that they even pray every day.
John Green, a senior research adviser at Pew, breaks the religiously unaffiliated into three groups. First, he says, are those who were raised totally outside organized religion.
Second are groups of people who were unhappy with their religions and left.
The third group, Green says, comprises Americans who were never really engaged with religion in the first place, even though they were raised in religious households.
"In the past, we would describe those people as nominally affiliated. They might say, 'I am Catholic; I am a Baptist,' but they never went" to services, Green says of this last group. "Now, they feel a lot more comfortable just saying, 'You know, I am really nothing.' "
According to the poll, 88% of religiously unaffiliated people are not looking for religion.
"There is much less of a stigma attached" to not being religious, Green said. "Part of what is fueling this growth is that a lot of people who were never very religious now feel comfortable saying that they don't have an affiliation."
Demographically, the growth among the religiously unaffiliated has been most notable among people who are 18 to 29 years old.
According to the poll, 34% of "younger millennials" - those born between 1990 and 1994 - are religiously unaffiliated. Among "older millennials," born between 1981 and 1989, 30% are religiously unaffiliated: 4 percentage points higher than in 2007.
Poll respondents 18-29 were also more likely to identify as atheist or agnostic. Nearly 42% religious unaffiliated people from that age group identified as atheist or agnostic, a number far greater than the number who identified as Christian (18%) of Catholic (18%).
Green says that these numbers are "part of a broader change in American society."
"The unaffiliated have become a more distinct group," he said.
Pew's numbers were met with elation among atheist and secular leaders. Jesse Galef, communications director for the Secular Student Alliance, said that the growth of the unaffiliated should translate into greater political representation for secular interests.
"We would love to see the political leaders lead on this issue, but we are perfectly content with them following these demographic trends, following the voters," Galef said.
"As more of the voters are unaffiliated and identifying as atheist and agnostics, I think the politicians will follow that for votes.
"We won't be dismissed or ignored anymore," Galef said.
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I don't know as I have a lot of comment here, other than to say that 1) I'm not horribly surprised at this and 2) that I'm glad to see this fact getting acknowledged in the mainstream media. The christian majority in the US too often would love to take the atheist minority and sweep it under the rug, as though it didn't exist or didn't matter. Yet when you have numbers like one in five, you're talking about a significant minority, sizable and visible enough to be politically significant, which means that at least some politicians (and likely most of them Democrats right now) will be at least marginally more aware of that factor in their campaigning and (one hopes) in their actions in office.
My only other concern here is the reaction to this survey by the religious community, particularly in any attempts they may make to return these perceived backsliders to their fold. Evangelicals are poor losers, it seems to me, and their behavior in the face of this news is not something we can just let lay.
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Here is another take on the Pew Forum Report from CBS News, which makes a most interesting assertion: that protestants are no longer the majority in the US! That news by itself could wake you up faster than your morning coffee, I'll bet!
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A daemon is a program that runs in the background, waiting for events to occur and offering services. A good example is a web server that waits for a request to deliver a page or a ssh server waiting for someone trying to log in. While these are full featured applications, there are daemons whose work is not that visible. Daemons are for tasks like writing messages into a log file (e.g.
metalog) or keeping your system time accurate (e.g.
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alsa-store and
alsa-restore provide persistent configuration support but do not start additional background processes to service requests or respond to events.
From the user's perspective the distinction is typically not significant unless the user tries to look for the "daemon" in a process list.
Managing daemons
In Arch Linux, daemons are handled by systemd. The systemctl command is used to control them.
Starting on boot
A default install of Arch Linux will leave you with very few services (or daemons) enabled during boot. You can add or remove services to be started on boot by calling
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# systemctl disable <name>
The services themselves contain the necessary ordering information, so there is no need to order them manually.
Service files are stored in
/{etc,usr/lib,run}/systemd/system. You can print the list of all the available services on your system, along with their current status, with:
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To see a list of running units (some of which will be daemons, among other things), type:
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To see all available ones, add
--all to the end of a command.
Starting manually
To start or stop services at runtime, use
systemctl start|stop <service>.
To restart services, use
systemctl restart <service>.
List of daemons
See Daemons List for a list of daemons with the name of the service and legacy rc.d script.
See also
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It's Hockey Day in Buffalo! If you're heading to the game, it might be a good idea to give yourself a refresher on the Amerks' jersey numbers. Don't leave your Hockey IQ at home.
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And don't tell me you've never heard of the "In Mother Russia" jokes before. These things are old. Stick tap to Yakov Smirnoff (yes, it was that guy) for launching this fun antimetabole (what?) meme waaaay back in the 80's.
In America, you break law.
In Soviet Russia, law breaks you!
Funny stuff for the ages. (Meanwhile, in 80's America, we were launching the high tech Max Headroom revolution. Yikes.)
Max Headroom… some memes were meant to stay in the 80's.
Anyway, enjoy the game! See ya at the Swannie.
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Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas normally is a charming, southern lady whose warm smile and friendly manner helps her win friends and influence enemies across a broad political spectrum.
But, the daughter of a cotton, soybean and rice farmer from Helena, Ark., didn't mince words when the Senate passed a bill providing $5 billion in emergency aid for farmers in 2001.
"I can't believe my colleagues would kick the farmer when he's down, but that is what they have done by approving this amendment," she said. "Crop prices are still at record lows while input costs, such as fertilizer and energy prices, are skyrocketing. I don't understand how they can justify offering less assistance this year."
"We have to address the needs of our farmers today or we will be importing our food from foreign countries tomorrow."
The Senate voted 51-49 April 4 to add $5 billion to this year's budget for emergency economic assistance. The amendment by Sens. Grassley of Iowa, Miller of Georgia and Domenici of New Mexico also increased the budget baseline for agriculture by $58.5 billion in FY 2002-2011. The current baseline: $4 billion to $5 billion annually.
"I'm hearing from Arkansas farmers that I never thought would close their shop doors," Lincoln said. "They've simply decided to call it quits this year. It seems that the most common event in rural Arkansas now is a farm auction."
The junior senator from Arkansas introduced a budget amendment that would provide $9 billion for emergency funds for 2001 and up to a $12 billion per year increase in the agriculture baseline for 2002-2011. Two days later, the Senate adopted her amendment for the $9 billion for 2001, but left the baseline increase at $58.5 billion over the 10 years.
The $9 billion for 2001 and the $12 billion for 10 years were the amounts requested by farm organizations in a letter to the House and Senate budget committees. The organizations included the National Cotton Council, American Farm Bureau Federation, American Soybean Association, the USA Rice Federation and the U.S. Rice Producers Group.
They have been urging Congress to act quickly due to reports of lenders being reluctant to make crop loans until they saw how much emergency assistance would be available for the 2001 crop year.
Sen. Lincoln said the increased funding for the agricultural baseline would allow farmers to become less dependent on such emergency assistance in the years ahead.
"My amendment will allow the Agriculture Committee to write a multi-year and multi-title farm bill," she said. "Those of us from rural areas have always been able to put partisanship aside to ensure the existence of family farms and rural America. I hope we will be able to continue in that effort."
The Senate and House FY2002 budget resolutions must go to a conference committee to be reconciled. The House plan says that agriculture and defense can tap a $514 billion strategic reserve fund set aside for 2002-2011, but it does not spell out specific spending amounts. House Democrats contend a downturn in the economy could make the strategic reserve and increased funding for farm spending an empty promise.
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Kevin Durant had 19 points and seven assists, and the Oklahoma City Thunder defeated the Charlotte Bobcats 116-94 on Friday night for their fourth straight victory.
Derek Fisher and Thabo Sefolosha both had 13 points for the Thunder, who blew open a close game with 19-0 run to start the second quarter. Serge Ibaka scored 12 points, and Russell Westbrook and Kevin Martin each chipped in with 11.
The Thunder shot 59 percent from the field in the first three quarters to build a 90-66 lead and rested their starters the rest of the way.
Gerald Henderson scored 21 points to lead the Bobcats, who have lost nine straight overall and 22 of their last 24 games at home.
The Thunder swept the season series, beating the Bobcats by a combined 65 points.
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When your girlfriend is sitting in a chair and you come up behind her ever so quietly before busting a nut all over the back of her head.
It was wildly coincidental that while Susanna was watching a preview for the new Lincoln movie I gave her The Abraham Lincoln.
My girlfriend considers watching out for "The Abraham Lincoln" a form of Homeland Security.
My girlfriend considers watching out for "The Abraham Lincoln" a form of Homeland Security.
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(Noun) When you are having intercourse with a woman "doggie style" and right before you ejactulate you pull out and shoot your ejactulate in the back of her head and jump out of the window.
My knee hasn't been right after I gave Madelon the Abraham Lincoln.
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The Abraham Lincoln is closely related to the angry pirate. When your getting head that is not satisfactory, you nut on the hoes mouth. Then you backhand her. If it knocks her out, you trim some hair off yourself and stick it on the splooge around her face where a beard and mustache would be. Then she wakes up and you have given her The Abraham Lincoln.
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Spartan then slips down into a fighting stance with his spear held down across his body. He beckons with the hand aloft. "Bring it."
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Share the joy a holiday meal can bring and help feed those in need. Items requested include Frozen Turkeys (frozen only, no fresh), canned soups, stews, fruits, vegetables, pasta, rice, grains and other nonperishable foods. Items only in cans, no glass jars or bottles please. For more information call Colette Kraus, food sourcing coordinator at 609-383-8843, ext. 116.


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CVertex needed a new logo design and created a contest on 99designs.
A winner was selected from 122 designs submitted by 24 freelance designers.
A cartoony mascot logo for my programming (+ humor) web log.
A cartoony ninja/logo for my programming blog that suits the name of the blog and the subtitle.
Even though the central topic of the blog is serious, I'd like the cartoony mascot to be some-what jovial, given the tongue-in-cheek subtitle.
Examples of interesting cartoony ninja's I found include:
- DateJS Ninja
- Ninja by MagicMushroomTony
- Ninject Mascot <-- the ninja's here are maybe too serious
- Cool, dark, modern color scheme - the scheme of the logo will be used as the colour scheme for the entire site- Vector illustration (so I can scale it as I wish)
- Opt for cartoony and cute over threatening and lethal
- Sword Wielding (Or some other Ninja action)
- Would be nice if cut-n-pasting could somehow be part of the Ninjas' action
- (Optional) a back drop for the character
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- No tagline or words on the mascot unless it contributes to it's "personality"
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PolitiFact Debunks The Biggest Conservative Lie About ENDA
December 18, 2013 11:21 am ET by Luke Brinker
Conservative media outlets have repeatedly asserted that the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) - federal legislation that would ban employment discrimination against LGBT workers - discriminates against Christian businesses, but a new report from PolitiFact has rated that claim "False."
On December 16, PolitiFact evaluated a fundraising email from the Traditional Values Coalition (TVC) which claimed that ENDA would unfairly punish Christian businesses. PolitiFact rated TVC's claim "false," noting that ENDA includes religious exemptions that are actually more generous than those contained in other federal non-discrimination laws.
PolitiFact also noted that non-religious businesses operated by religious individuals have to comply with the law regardless of the business owner's faith (emphasis added):
Under Title VII [of the Civil Rights Act of 1964], and therefore under ENDA, religious organizations, which need not be church-run, would be exempt. Additionally, all businesses with fewer than 15 employees are exempt, whether they're religious or not.
Nelson Tebbe, a professor at Brooklyn Law School who specializes in religious liberty, said ENDA's religious exemption exceeds Title VII's.
"It's broader because the religious exemption in Title VII only allows religious organizations to discriminate [against LGBT individuals] on the basis of religion," he said. But it doesn't allow religious groups to discriminate based on factors like an employee's gender or race.
So by permitting religious organizations to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity, ENDA allows them more flexibility than Title VII.
The bill's religious exemption indicates that churches, church-run initiatives and other religious businesses need not comply by employing people of all sexualities and gender identities. And there's no special negative treatment for Christians.
Businesses of any religion could qualify for the exemption. Individuals of any faith who oppose sexuality would have to abide by the law, so no religion is singled out.
We rate this claim False.
The myth that ENDA would discriminate against Christian businesses has been widely debunked, but that hasn't stopped the lie from gaining prominence among right-wing media outlets.
Fox News
In a fact-free report on November 4, Fox News correspondent and notorious cheerleader for anti-LGBT discrimination Shannon Bream implied that the bill would punish religious employers, citing "skeptics" who "have worries" about the bill despite its clear religious exemptions.
Bream's report echoed an October 31 segment on Fox's Special Reportduring which host Bret Baier asserted that supporters of ENDA "want religious freedom to take a backseat to another kind of freedom." During the segment, Bream baselessly stated that the bill "could wind up putting religious employers in a tough spot." "[A] Christian school," she said, "worries about being forced to hire a transgender teacher."
National Review Online
National Review Online outsourced its distortion of ENDA to Heritage Foundation fellow Ryan T. Anderson. In an October 31 post, Anderson wrote that ENDA "raises serious concerns regarding religious liberty" and would undermine individuals' rights "to speak freely of religious or moral convictions about marriage and sexuality" - even though ENDA only stipulates that an employer can't discriminate against someone just for being LGBT.
The Washington Times
A serial misinformer on anti-LGBT discrimination issues, The Washington Times has demonstrated time and again during the ENDA debate that it won't let facts stand in the way of its attacks on the bill. The paper responded to ENDA's Senate passage with an op-ed from anti-gay hate group leader Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council (FRC), who condemned the bill as "reverse discrimination" against Christians and "a major threat to liberty." Two days later, the paper published a column declaring that ENDA would "expand government and repeal the Bible."
This pernicious ENDA lie also percolated outside the conservative noise machine, with mainstream outlets allowing groups like the FRC a platform to claim the bill represents an assault on Christians. FRC fellow Peter Sprigg told The Washington Post in October that ENDA is "a direct attack against the moral convictions of social conservatives." In a March column for CNN, Sprigg argued that the bill would marginalize "people with religious and moral scruples against homosexual conduct."
While the lie that ENDA punishes Christians has been debunked yet again, that's unlikely to deter the bill's opponents in the media, whose arguments against ENDA demonstrate an aversion not just to LGBT rights, but to facts themselves.
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Barnes & Noble is facing a dilemma. On the one hand, the company is seeing success with its Nook e-reader and digital book ecosystem. Today, it trumpeted that sales throughout the Nook business — including its tablet and e-readers, as well as content — were up 70 percent this holiday season, compared to last year. However, at the same time, Barnes & Noble has been forced to scale back its financial guidance for its overall business: Just over a month ago the company was expecting to pull in $210 to $250 million for the year, albeit at the "lower end" of that range. Now B&N has been forced to scale that back by 20 percent or so, saying it expects to earn between $150 and $180 million for the year. And, yes, part of that shortfall is actually due to some Nook sales being lower than expected.
Nonetheless, Barnes & Noble is signaling it wants to break out the Nook business from the rest of its operations. That may mean simply reporting on the Nook as a separate segment within the company's overall operations, or finding a way to "separate" the Nook business, perhaps selling it or spinning it off into a separate company with investment from strategic partners.
Can an e-reader and e-book business prosper if it's not tied to a major book brand like Barnes & Noble?
The case for setting Nook free
Barnes & Noble's argument for setting the Nook business off on its own is essentially that the Nook is where Barnes & Noble is seeing its strongest financial results. The company thinks the business could do even better, and attract more money from investors, if it weren't lumped in with (and burdened by) financial results from Barnes & Noble's substantial retail businesses.
What are those numbers like? Barnes & Noble won't be releasing combined results for its current (2012) fiscal year until mid-2012 (gotta love how fiscal years and calendar years get out of sync) but we can start to put a picture together now. Overall, Barnes & Noble says it expects to ring up between $7 and $7.2 billion in sales across all its businesses for its 2012 fiscal year, ending in June. Last fiscal year (2011), Barnes & Noble reported $7 billion in overall sales revenue. That means at best B&N expects its 2012 fiscal year will represent a three percent increase in sales revenue compared to 2011, and it might actually wind up being flat, showing no year-on-year growth at all. Either way, investors are likely to see 2012 as a disappointment compared to 2011. After all, in 2011 B&N was able to increase its overall sales revenue by 20 percent year on year (thanks to some felicitous accounting that rolled textbooks sales into overall totals and significant revenue increased through online sales at bn.com).
Here's the kicker: Even with $7 billion in sales for its 2011 year, Barnes & Noble chalked up a net loss of $74 million. That didn't make investors very happy either. And (see above) the company just lowered its overall guidance for fiscal 2012, and now expects full year losses of $1.10 to $1.40 per share. Can you hear the grumbling?
In contrast, Barnes & Noble's Nook business looks like it has healthy potential. Like Amazon, Barnes & Noble has never disclosed how many e-readers and tablets it sells, but the company says it expects digital content sales to reach $450 million this year, with the company's overall Nook business reaching $1.5 billion for fiscal 2012. If those numbers play out, the Nook business could account for more than a fifth of Barnes & Noble's total sales revenue for the year — and that's pretty impressive for a business and product line the company only launched in 2009.
Barnes & Noble also says it had a solid holiday season. Despite Amazon launching the much-anticipated Kindle Fire tablet, combined sales of Nook products for the nine-week period leading up to December 31 were up 70 percent compared to the same period in 2010, with sales of digital content nearly doubling. It did decently at retail too: Same-store sales rose 3.4 percent year-on-year during the nine-week holiday period, with overall sales of $1.2 billion across its retail operations.
For the time being, the Nook business remains a bit of a money pit. The company has to continue to invest in its electronic book ecosystem and in developing new e-reader products to grow the business and compete with the likes of Amazon. Doing that requires money, and attracting investors to Barnes & Noble — which still has respectable sales volume but is failing to earn money on it — is a difficult proposition.
However, if the Nook business were a separate company with revenue approaching $1.5 billion and year-on-year holiday sales growth of 70 percent, investors would probably be jumping all over it. Looking into the Nook business's medium-term future, it's important to note that Barnes & Noble's Nook business (like its retail and textbook operations) is currently only running in the United States. Although Barnes & Noble has never really looked at taking its retail business international, the company says it is working to take the Nook international in the next year, mostly likely via partnerships. That could create significant new revenue for the Nook. After all, companies like Apple derive nearly two thirds of their sales revenue from outside the United States.
If Barnes & Noble wants to compete with the likes of Amazon and Apple over the long term, it probably needs to expand the Nook ecosystem beyond e-books and start looking at music, movies, and television programming. New investors, potentially with their entertainment industry connections, could probably make that happen more quickly than Barnes & Noble could on its own.
Separating out the Nook business would also improve the bottom line for Barnes & Noble's online and retail businesses: their financial results would no longer be weighed down by the investments the company has had to make to build and grow the Nook business. In other words, if Barnes & Noble weren't sinking so much money into the Nook, it might be able to prove there's still money to be made in running brick-and-motor bookstores. And a website.
One downside: A spun-off Nook business would have a cloud hanging over its head from Microsoft, which is suing Barnes & Noble for patent infringment for using Android in its Nook Tablet and other products. Barnes & Noble might be willing to go toe-to-toe with Microsoft, alleging the Redmond company is abusing its position in the marketplace, but potential Nook investors may not have the same sort of chutzpah.
Which way to go?
Barnes & Noble's tribulations are all about attracting investors to the Nook business. If the company creates a separate reporting category for the Nook, it will be easier for potential investors (and analysts) to evaluate the Nook business separately from Barnes & Noble's other operations, and assess whether it would be a good idea to put money into Barnes & Noble despite lackluster results from other aspects of its business.
However, that's unlikely to be enough to satisfy potential investors from the technology sector, who are famously willing to take substantial risks, but only if they're tightly focused. Even if the numbers from Barnes & Noble's Nook business look stunning, many investors will be unwilling to take an equity stake in Barnes & Noble's overall business just to get a crack at the Nook. After all, the Nook might succeed handsomely, but the overall return would be dulled by less-stellar performance from the rest of Barnes & Noble's business. Separating the Nook into a separate concern with its own investors separate from Barnes & Noble would seem to be the best way to attract revenue.
However, it's not clear if the Nook would be seeing the same levels of success with consumers if it weren't associated with the well-known Barnes & Noble brand. Most people who buy e-books (and e-readers) are also consumers of physical books, and a significant part of the reason Amazon was able to launch its Kindle ecosystem was because Amazon had successfully established itself as a leading bookseller (actually, the leading bookseller). The successful launch of the Nook has likewise depended upon consumers' recognition and relationship with the Barnes & Noble brand. Part of the reason why e-reader ecosystems like Kobo aren't seeing tremendous levels of success in the U.S. market is that they aren't associated with a well-known book retailer. (Kobo did have a relationship with Borders, which didn't work out so well.) These same factors might hurt Barnes & Noble's efforts to bring the Nook to international markets.
Unfortunately for the Nook, there's no clear-cut way forward here. If the Nook stays with Barnes & Noble, it'll remain hobbled by the company's brick-and-mortar performance. If it spins out, it loses the Barnes & Noble brand. And, meanwhile, Apple and Amazon continue firing on all cylinders.
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ari moshe
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Jun 22, 2009, 11:54 AM »
in the ea literatre i've only found examples of second stage spiritual souls ea considers to be sketchy.
what are some examples of other second stage spiritual folk?
here's a hunch:
chogyam trungpa rinpoche
eckart tolle
if not, what stage do you think they are/were at?
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Jun 22, 2009, 01:35 PM »
Hi Ari,
The nature of the 2nd stage spiritual evolutionary condition is one of core egocentric purification relative to spiritual awareness which has been realized in the evolutionary journey. The spiritual state itself is a neptunian condition...the 2nd stage has leonian emphasis within that. Before the soul can evolve into the 3rd stage spiritual, the ego has to go through a necessary purging, where all the egocentrically identified impurity can be purified and culminated. It can thus be a problematic stage. That is why some of the examples we have of 2nd stage spiritual souls can have this 'sketchy' quality as you call it.
JWG is in the 3rd stage spiritual condition. As for the other two individuals you've listed, I'll leave that for someone else to comment on as I haven't done the observation to know.
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Jun 22, 2009, 03:37 PM »
To further clarify a bit, the nature of 2nd stage spiritual PRODUCES individuals who would be described as "a bit sketchy" AT BEST.
The words I recall to describe the stage are "feels they have a unique toehold on the truth that no one else has ever had before". They HAVE in fact, by that point, had
spiritual experiences, and that is the basis by which others are attracted to these folks. I've been closely around several in my life, and know others who've been around other 2nd stage spiritual folks. (You've never heard of the ones I was around).
What you get is a mixture of truth and falseness. There IS truth in their teachings, and it is mixed with a bunch of self-oriented stuff. They are not fully living out their own teachings. Underlying it all is a deep permeating sense of spiritual arrogance. Sometimes you can't see this at all until you get really close to the person. In one case I was involved with, the person has been identified as being close to 3rd stage spiritual but still in 2nd. There was tremendous truth in much of what they taught. That particular case, the person did not manifest the possible extremes of 2nd stage spiritual. They were not in huge power grabs, in fact were revolted by all that. Yet the issues manifested anyway, subtly, among those gathered around this individual. I did not really grasp it until years later when I saw video of the person, years after they had passed on. How there was a core underlying arrogance that permeated through the words they spoke, while on the outside they lived a most humble and not wanting to be idolized or put on a pedestal reality at all. And yet, there was this underlying state, that had been there all along, that I had not before grasped.
You have to keep in mind this is a natural archetype. As Stacie said, the spiritual state is a neptune phenomena. The 1st stage is virgo-like within that, the 2nd is leo-like. Thus there is an explosion of a spiritual ego. The words from the pluto books are something like, the person at some point is destined to experience a major downfall, out of which that spiritual ego pops, and they then begin the entry to 3rd stage spiritual for real. Its been said its possible for the 2nd stage spiritual to be navigated in ways that are less harmful to others than some of the well known extreme cases have turned into.
In terms of your list, eckart tolle to me exhibits none of the signs of this spiritual arrogance, thus is not 2nd stage spiritual. I'd guess he's 1st stage spiritual. I am aware he speaks in what people consider great wisdom. Keep in mind Jeffrey identified Dane Rudhyar as 1st stage spiritual. These stages take a lot longer to pass through than we like to think they do, as in most cases, many many lifetimes for even a small amount of advancement. Yogananda said the typical person changes very little from lifetime to lifetime.
By the way, to give evolutionary perspective, typically 2nd stage people are surrounded by what you would call followers or believers. As the 2nd stage person goes through their downfalls, these people also go through a downfall of sorts - the disillusioning of their hopes dreams beliefs, as the actual reality of the person they believed in and committed parts of their lives to becomes apparent. In other words, they are thrown back on themselves. I've seen many go into a complete victim state when this occurs "I was blameless, I was taken advantage of, I was abused, I did nothing, all I did was give my all to the effort" etc etc. The gist of it is, it is part of the "believers" evolutionary journey TO have these experiences with the 2nd stage person- often the necessary lesson is to stop looking outside of self for one's answers, to stop putting anyone on a pedestal and holding them up as better. And it is just as difficult for many of the believers to own that lesson, to look at their "mistakes", as it is for the 2nd stage spiritual person to own their own lessons. They need each other, to learn, to grow. So it once again comes back to all concerned taking responsibility for the reality they have created and not blaming or being a victim. I will also say there are plenty of examples of true abuse occurring in such situations, from sexual predators, pedophiles, con artists, etc. and the wounds some experience from those types of realities are very deep and difficult. I'm not in any way excusing any of that by saying it was your destiny or karma or whatever. Only saying there are always inner reasons an experience is necessary in someone's life, as difficult as it may be.
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Jun 22, 2009, 04:15 PM »
Steve and Ari:
This is a very interesting topic.
Your quote Steve:
Its been said its possible for the 2nd stage spiritual to be navigated in ways that are less harmful to others than some of the well known extreme cases have turned into.
Could you please provide examples of extreme cases? To me, Rajneesh who exhibited signs of spiritual arrogance was an extreme case. And there were some pretty heavy things happening toward the end.
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Jun 22, 2009, 04:38 PM »
Excellent explanations, Stacie and Steve. But just as a gentle reminder regarding these being "natural archetypes," Wolf also taught that, yes they were natural, BUT.... ONLY from the standpoint that we all go thru stages of growth - expansion of consciousness, not in how they manifest. The way the stages are currently defined --how they manifest--is due to our still living in a patriarchal reality. I.e., these particular explanations, only play out in a patriarchal setting; they would not manifest the same way when people are living by Natural Law. The stages themSELVES are natural, but how they are played out looks entirely different in a world of Natural Law, or one that is defined by giving, sharing and inclusion, rather than self-interest and exclusion.
Quote from: Steve on Jun 22, 2009, 03:37 PM
You have to keep in mind this is a natural archetype.
Last Edit: Jun 22, 2009, 04:54 PM by adina
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Jun 22, 2009, 04:59 PM »
Hi Linda
Could you please provide examples of extreme cases? To me, Rajneesh who exhibited signs of spiritual arrogance was an extreme case.
Yes, Rajneesh has always been on the list of examples of 2nd stage spiritual. Clair Prophet and Ramtha have been mentioned, as has David Koresh (Waco). I asked once about Elijah Muhammed, the founder of the Nation of Islam (Black Muslims), who appeared as a full blown vision when Malcolm X was in prison, and he was identified as 2nd stage spiritual.
The Pluto course transcript says, on how to recognize such people "there is a fundamental discrepancy between how they are conducting their personal life and the nature of their teachings". (That of course applies to a whole range of modern day religious people and Senators, who are not 2nd stage spiritual.) I'd say the point is, at times these people are indeed able to tap a place of deep spiritual truth/wisdom that few among us can experience, but its inconsistently applied. There are always exceptions to the rules, and because of their pumped up self-declared state of evolution, they are exempt from the normal rules.
The 2nd stage spiritual section of Pluto Vol 2 says "truly God-realized Souls only point the way home, not to themselves". When you combine the Leonian tendency in 2nd stage spiritual to feel one's own special brilliance with that statement, it makes it easier to identify those in 2nd stage spiritual. They also feel an inner destiny/need to teach, so there are plenty of them around. And because so many people feel desperate and lost, there is no shortage of students.
p.s. I agree with what Adina wrote. That is probably what was meant by it being possible to navigate the stage without harming so many people. The problem is we live in a time of near-total patriarchy, so there aren't many around exhibiting the undistorted state of 2nd stage spiritual. And people who do live from natural principles, regardless of evolutionary stage, tend to be very wounded from all they have been through in retaining their inner integrity.
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Jun 22, 2009, 05:43 PM »
Where would you place Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church, whose teachings (and revelations) have led millions to embrace family togetherness, geneology and adherence to the laws of the land with diligence and honor?
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Jun 22, 2009, 08:26 PM »
I also remember that Da Free John was intellectually brilliant and a very powerful spiritual teacher.
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Jun 22, 2009, 08:42 PM »
Linda, this is another one, though, whom Wolf said was 2nd stage spiritual. He's also known as Adidam. As Steve pointed out, and as wolf taught in the original Pluto school, 2nd stage spiritual souls actually DO have some real God realization, and that's maybe why it can get confusing. Generally speaking, there are seven levels of Samadhi realization, and typically, one has made it through the first four by the end of 2nd stage spiritual.
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Jun 22, 2009, 09:28 PM »
Thank you Adina!
I do not doubt that they have attained some levels of Samadhi, for they do speak the truth.
Is it not the Universal Spirit working through these 2nd stage spiritual teachers? They are not as yet fully realized or purified.
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Jun 22, 2009, 09:40 PM »
Yep, that's it exactly, Linda!
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Jun 22, 2009, 10:09 PM »
ah cool- adina do you have a recourse for teachings on the seven levels of samhadi?
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Jun 22, 2009, 10:25 PM »
Hi Adina,
First of all, I want to say thank you for that beautiful interview you had with Kristin Fontana on Healthylife.net recently. I hope your good days far outnumber the bad.
I'd like to echo Ari's request for more information about the 7 levels of Samadhi. Is it possible for you to briefly list or give a short description of them? Do these 7 levels correlate in any way with the chakra system? (So interested to read more!)
On the subject at hand, I have known someone at the cusp of 1st stage Spiritual and 2nd stage Spiritual...she had incredible healing powers, had been able to heal others through prayer since age 5. She spoke of God all the time, BUT insisted that true healing came only through HER spiritual path/paradigm: she had THE one and only way to God, as far as she was concerned. She was quite aware of her talent and would keep her clients waiting for literally hours past their appointments (!), as if to create some kind of mystique around herself and/or bring the client's focus and attention back to her. When I told her about EA, she literally recoiled! "Stop! Just hearing about it makes me SICK!" she exclaimed to me. It is that total refusal to acknowledge and accept other perfectly valid paths to God (diversity itself is a Natural Law!) that is a hallmark of this evolutionary condition. That, and pointing to self as the path back to God, instead of pointing to God'dess and encouraging each individual to embrace his/her own natural way to spiritualize. It was quite a harrowing experience, but a very educational one at that.
Love and blessings to all,
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Jun 23, 2009, 12:55 AM »
Hi Everyone,
I'd like to add a little to the above notes of Stacie, Adina and Steve which are correct in essence and very well describe the issue: the second stage spiritual although indeed leo-like, it is actually jupiter that manifest through this way...a personal identification with the 'truth'....as all souls have different unique nature it plays out differently BUT as to differentiate between the so called most 'severe' cases and some other, the truth is that this stage is also not one or two life times...it's far longer than that....
For example I personally totally agree that Eckart Tolle is typical 2nd stage spiritual BUT the soul hasn't reached yet the peak of the jupiterian exaggeration and personal identification with the 'ultimate truths'...but point IT WILL later on. The self confidence grows as the more intuitive perception merges with the truth and more and more people will listen to the soul.
On the other hand, Louise L. Hay is typically recovered from the 2nd spiritual in past lives and for long has been silent (6th house capr. s.node) before the soul reached the 3rd spiritual and assumed severe masochism/atonement before the soul allowed itself to teach people again in this life....only towards the second part of her life....she typically accepts all paths and points the way to the Source from within....
In my view it is NOT possible to skip the peak, simply because it comes out of the soul's desire to merge with the Source...the mistake is that (pluto, scorpio) the soul at first trying to 'take in' so to speak that what it feels the source is...and it indeed takes in so much and merges with the spiritual powers of the Source to the highest possible way RELATIVE TO TEH SOUL itself...but that's the problem the source is far more than any individual soul.......yet, this is simply the nature of how the soul is created....it HAS TO GO THROUGH THIS FINAL DISILLUSIONMENT that even it's soul is not 'it' .....of course it can't be for that's far less than the ultimate source that created the soul......but that leads to the jupiter stage, the exaggeration of the importance of the created soul and jupiter is identified at this stage within the piscean symbolism (the so called truths, becaue there is indeed truth in that...but not the whole lot..and so the personal identification with the 'truths' ......it's specifically jupiter like....as the perception of the truths gets stronger and stronger and the virgo-like first spiritual grows into the jupiter like identification.....the soul needs to realise the fact that it is but A subjective consciousness even on the soul level.....the soul becomes aware of it's own soul during the 1st stage spiritual...the second stage is about using the soul's power not the immediate ego power, and YET because that will be used relative to the subjective identification of it's own ego's source as the specific soul (instead of the Source, that's the mistake) it will be still 'egocentric' in a different way....for sure the soul is closer to to the Source than the ego itself but it isn't the Source....that's the issue....missing one's own soul and it's realised spiritual powers with the Source....
The 2nd stage can not be completed unless it reaches it's jupiterian peak....so at the end it will be a blow and because the soul BELIEVES (jupiter) IN IT'S OWN MERGING WITH THE TRUTHS it simply can't help but will cause disillusionment to others....but it comes in stages, and there are many life times BEFORE and AFTER the peak within the 2nd stage..
Rajneesh for example is the peak time for the soul, and life times need to come to recover and lessen the tendency...it doesn't come at once....for the soul at first isn't fully aware what's the problem it realises in stages....and just as every other stage it isn't wrong or right, it is both....it is necessary and natural.....the soul in the 2nd spiritual indeed teaches a lot of useful things but toward the peak it goes too far about it's own soul level self-importance....nothing is black and white it just goes too far into that direction in order to realise the final obstacle ....it can't realise it unless this happens...it is simply impossible to realise once's soul level subjectivty unless the soul faces it directly....so it is a gift from the source so that the soul can indeed liberate (uranus) at the end once it realised the final problem.....it's own soul level subjectivity .....
It is all about the merging process, the pluto, scorpio process which needs to totally metamorphose BEFORE the real change can happen...i.e. instead of trying to take in the Source within one's soul, (everything else till that point happens and need to happen this way that's the trick) yet at the end it needs to learn to do the opposite....to allow the Source to take the soul in and to allow it from it's own will....to ask for it instead of resisting it.....it's a paradox as the whole creation is based on the paradox itself the soul needs to go BACKWARD on that paradoxical gate .......till then all merging happens one way, at last the merging has to happen BACKWARD....this is what the soul needs to realise before it can fully enter the 3rd stage .....
After the peak of the 2nd spiritual the soul will be always shocked via a huge blow (uranus) via the objective reality (which really is the very force governed by the Source to embrace the objective reality that the soul missed out on even in the spiritual stage there is aspects of reality especially relative to the subjectivity of the soul that are illusionary, therefore there is an objective reality which will and have to shock the soul at one point) so that objective reality is not easy to take in and it takes time to go through that stage after the peak ......just as it takes time to reach the peak....like the Mormon leader typically reached the peak in that very life time when it became the known person .....There are aspects of REALLY valuable spiritual truths but that then leads to the personal identification with the truth....
The final realisation of the source is within pisces: the change from the piscean jupiter to the underlying neptune symbolised essence.....so not the truths themselves but what BEHIND the truths is the aim........what's behind jupiter in pisces is neptune....what's behind creation is the source and not creation and it's laws themselves....those are just the reflection...and reflection always has an element of illusion of course....the piscean jupiter is very close to the essence but not quiet 'it'.....
Like Wolf himself said he is at the beginning of the 3rd stage spiritual....and I think that's very true....symbolised by his 12th jupiter: that's what culminating and that's why it is square to natal pluto: the soul's desire to know the truth is stronger than the past identification 'with' the truth....and that's why the repetition in so many ways is present in the chart, like saturn is balsamic to pluto in the 9th, pluto is retro, so is venus that is square to pluto...along with jupiter and mercury.....sun is on s.node the whole life time is a repetition and of course the skipped steps with the moon which is the ruler of the 9th....the personal security patterns in the past have been rooted with the identification of the 'truths' and the skipped steps of course involve uranus: the larger objective reality hits in as trauma on the n.node....and yet, that's the gift of the soul, although mars is opposite to it from the 2nd sag conj. s.node: that's the past resistance, there has been a relatively limited view of the truths (2nd house) but the soul is recovering and indeed the teachings in this life contain the essence of the truth in a way that truly serve people....so that the repetiton of the past brought the resolution and the soul has entered the 3rd spiritual and NOW able to teach in a different way....n.node is gemini in 7th: truly serving others....the skipped step is about the struggle how it happened in the 2nd stage.....the confusion etc. ...teachings happened in the past but it was different...of course contained truths, but after the peak the soul have chosen to shock itself and realise the final obstacle....the desire to merge with god is the same but the METHOD of how the soul does it changes after the last blow.....
That's why the soul had to face every of it's subjective 'hatred' like astrology itself, and become the very vehicle of that what has been resisted in the past....embracing the diversity (uranus in gemini on n.node) and recovering not only the soul's own skipped steps but understanding and sharing that understanding with others how the soul as a soul works and why etc. via EA....
I think the 2nd stage spiritual needs to be acknowledged as the necessariy past for this teaching to come along for example, and every other teachings that truly help humanity to evolve and find the Source...none of the true teachers can EVER get there unless they went through the 2nd stage and learned the final lesson....
I just feel it is important to understand and embrace so that even though during the PEAK time others can be repelled, but that doesn't mean the soul is 'wrong' and 'worst' than some others....it just as necessary as the everything else within creation.....the fruits of the 2nd is the 3rd.....the fruits of the consensus is the individuated, and so on....one step after another there is no way to skip any steps.....
Well at least that's how I see it :-)
Hope I don't shock anyone with my aquarian views:-))
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Hi Chuck
Quote from: chuck h on Jun 22, 2009, 05:43 PM
Where would you place Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon church, whose teachings (and revelations) have led millions to embrace family togetherness, geneology and adherence to the laws of the land with diligence and honor?
I don't know enough about Smith's life and story to attempt determining his evolutionary stage through observation and correlation. The other method is to look directly into his Soul, which process "is beyond my pay grade".
The paradigm of EA is based on the reality of Natural Law. In that reality, the genders of male and female are simply two
expressions of divinity - equal in every possible way - one and the same, in fact, just different expressions of the same One. The teachings of Smith and the Mormon Church have not been aligned with that reality. In our time, and for a long time now, neither are the teachings of any other major religion, in barely any culture or country on Earth.
Given the cultural context of the times in which someone appears, it is possible for even a relatively evolved Soul to bring forth teachings that contain some patriarchal distortions - that in itself doesn't mean they are not evolved. But distortions are distortions even if they come from someone relatively evolved, whether or not we like facing that. In order to heal this great mess of dysfunction on Earth, distortions need to be NAMED as distortions, not glossed over, excused, or justified.
Distortions of natural law have caused great harm as the result of beliefs of all major religions, including the Mormon. I do NOT mean by that statement that, as a result of containing distortions, there is no value at all in anything the Mormon church has ever taught or done. That is not true. However, to resolve violations of natural law, the dark side, the shadow side, of all people and all things must be faced. Institutions, including the Mormon church, have a pretty poor track record of facing their shadow. (As do people in general.)
Belief in patriarchal
standards of good and bad, right and wrong, are the root cause of the shadow in the first place. We disown parts of ourselves, split off from, feel guilt about, parts of self we have been taught are bad/wrong, and then project onto others these qualities that are actually within ourselves, since we ourselves can't own them. (Thus we have a family-values Senator who calls people out for sexual indiscretions having an affair with the wife of a good friend). Institutions engage in this just as much as individuals do.
These have consequences that affect the lives of others. The church founded on Smith's teachings, and it did start with him, has a long history of favoring white males. I realize it is never EXPRESSED in that way - to do so would be to face the shadow, which does not happen. If you look into the history of the church - the role of women, the exclusion of people of color, it is prevalent. The church, just last year, was the principle financier of the anti-gay marriage proposition in California, spending millions of dollars on this.
These distortions in the Mormon religion began with the institution of polygamy, and the belief that this is God's law/intent. And this started with Joseph Smith. Why would a natural God raise up one expression of itself and cast down another expression of itself? These core, baseline distortions, over time multiply, as one distortion requires the creation of further distortions to justify the initial distortions. As times goes on the number of distortions expands and expands - all created in the minds of humans, to control others, for the sake of personal power and authority, presented as being God's intent. A god that itself is always conceptualized as a white male...
In order to get the political power they wanted, i.e. statehood, the Church elders renounced polygamy. Now, Smith taught that polygamy was God's intent. How can you have a religion based on following God's intent and then swear off a major tenet of what God's intent is supposed to be just because it becomes politically expedient to do so? Did God change His (hah!) mind? If polygamy being God's intent had ever been true in the first place, how can you just change your mind about it? Your religion is supposed to be God's will and intent. So was it, or wasn't it? Was Smith wrong about God's intent? Were the later church elders wrong?
Recognizing this hypocrisy within its own beliefs, a shadow side of the church came into creation - splinter groups who refused to disavow polygamy. This then put the mainstream church in the position of having to disown these splinter groups, saying they are not a part of that church. Yet they began WITHIN that church, and they would not exist at all if the original church teachings did not include polygamy. This is a fabulous example of what I just said, about creating new distortions to justify or rationalize earlier distortions.
My point is, to me polygamy was never God's intent in the first place. Nor was monogamy. One size NEVER fits all in Natural Law. Diversity is the fundamental law in Creation - any philosophy based on natural law acknowledges Diversity as its bottom line, #1 principle.
The way to know what is right for an individual is they just know within themselves what is right for them. They don't need an external church or belief system or teachers to tell them what is right, because each Soul can simply know within itself what is right for it. And what is right can change over the course of a life.
What is "right" is based on the past and intended evolutionary future of that Soul. And it is unique for each Soul. For some polygamy could be "right", for some one women with multiple husbands, for some "standard" monogamy, for some marriage to a person of the same sex, for some no partner or family at all. In natural law there are not judgments made on the forms through which diversity expresses itself. The highest weight is placed on following what the person just knows within self is right for them, regardless of how unusual it may appear in comparison to the choices made by the majority.
I want to ask you, Chuck, why did you phrase your original question as you did? Go back and look at it - your question is pretty much "leading the witness". It clearly contains your views, and makes me think that consciously or otherwise you want an answer that is aligned with your beliefs. Otherwise why would you word your question as you did? You may or may not, on this board, get the answer you are expecting. I hope you are prepared for that.
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