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Monday, December 31, 2012
147th Table Top Tuesday
I had the most wonderful Christmas and hope all of you had a really fabulous one too. I havn't done any decorating or created anything to share, so I am going to show a few highlights from this past year that caught every one's attention. We are starting a little early since it is New Year's Eve.
Copper 'n Things created the most wonderful outdoor area, and we all drooled over how beautiful and creative it was. You need to see the whole thing, so just click on the link.
Town and Country Living wowed us all with her gorgeous farmhouse dining area. Love those beadboard cabinets.
155 Dream Lane did an amazing job with her copy-cat tablescape, but what made everyone gasp is when she showed us how she painted these two wonderful wing chairs. You won't believe what they looked like before.
Home is Where the Boat is was so creative with her potting shed and her ladder tree. Definitely caught our attention and so amazing. We all loved it.
Far Above Rubies shared her gorgeous kitchen decorated for Christmas, but what really wowed all of us is her before and after of all the changes she made to this kitchen. I love it all, gorgeous.
I can't wait to see what you guys have to share this week. You are always so amazing.
I wish you a very Blessed, Prosperous and Happy New Year Everyone!!!!!
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Thank you for hosting, Marty. Happy New Year!ReplyDelete
Thanks for hosting, Marty! Have a wonderful New Year!ReplyDelete
Thanks for hosting, Marty...wishing you a very Happy New Year!ReplyDelete
Happiest of New Year wishes to you Marty! (loving your header!)ReplyDelete
Thank you so much for hosting, Marti! Happy New Year!ReplyDelete
On New Year's Eve and all Year through...Great Health and Prosperity are wished for You!!!
Thank you for hosting Table Top Tuesday each week, dear friend!!! I look forward to another year of amazing inspiration!
Many thanks for hosting Marty and of course wishing you and your family a very happy,healthy,and blessed New Year!JaneReplyDelete
Have a great New Year and thanks so much for hosting!ReplyDelete
Happy New Year Marty, Thanks for hosting each week, I'm going to strive to be more of an active participant.... hugs ~lynne~ReplyDelete
Marty, I have really enjoyed joining in on your parties all year...looking forward to 2013! Have a blessed and happy New Year! Hugs, PennyReplyDelete
Great features! Hard to pick a favorite! :)ReplyDelete
Thanks for hosting! And blessings to you for the New Year!
Thank you for been such a wonderful and generous hostess throu all of 2012...it seems like only yesterday you hitted the 100th. party link... and now, so quickly you've hosted 147 pasties...yupiiii!!! Have a blessed and happy 2013 with all your family, dear Marty.ReplyDelete
Very pretty features each week, Marty. I think I lost my comment, so I will repeat it! I said that I couldn't believe that you've hosted 147 great parties..when only yesterday you were so happy to have hosted 100!! May God bless you and yours in the new 2013.ReplyDelete
Happy New Year, Marty! Thanks for hosting:) xo, Ron @ Uptown AcornReplyDelete
Dearest Marty,ReplyDelete
I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed seeing the photos of your lovely family.
Let's get together soon, I have to return your canvas bag to you.
Thank you for hosting and have a VERY happy New Year my friend.
Happy New Year..Many Blessings to you and your family in 2013..May all your dreams be fulfilled..From my mountain to yours, Hugs and smiles GloriaReplyDelete
that was so kind of you to feature my chairs..thank you~!
Happy New Year to you and your family. I hope 2013 brings you good health and lots of happiness.
Hi Marty,ReplyDelete
I have enjoyed your beautiful post. You have selected some wonderful blogs. With the coming year I am so inspired to make some changes with some of the beautiful ideas.
Thank you for hosting, my friend!
Blessings and Happy New Years!
Wonderful features. Happy New year!ReplyDelete
Love your New Year's header. Great shares. Happy New Year to you and yours. laurieReplyDelete
I am inspired again. Happy New Year, Marty!...ChristineReplyDelete
Thanks, Marty, for being so loyal in hosting this party.ReplyDelete
Happy New Year.
Perfect posts to look back on this year, Marty! I haven't done anything either, but all the family visiting leaves tomorrow, so I hope to get some things accomplished this week.ReplyDelete
Thanks Marty! I do so love your Tuesday stroll through lovely tables. Wishing you a Blessed New Year!ReplyDelete
Happy New Year Marty. Looking forward to another wonderful year at TTT!ReplyDelete
Hello Lady M,ReplyDelete
Thank you so much for hosting TTT. I do love your meme and you know so well that I am enjoying to stroll around USA to gather inspirations and bring me back home.
Hope you had a great NY and wishes you all the best of 2013. I can't wait to see the new style & inspirations.
Hugs from from an icy Stockholm,
Marty~ Thanks so much for featuring my ladder tree in my Potting Shed! Looking forward to more Table Top Tuesdays in 2013~ Wishing you a Healthy & Happy New Year!ReplyDelete
Hi Marty! Thanks so much for hosting your fun Tabletop Tuesday blog party for us! I was so late getting Christmas decorations up that I am not ready to take them down yet like you have. Your master bedroom looks so dreamy with your new pillow and the "mink" throw.ReplyDelete
Hi Marty! Thanks so much for featuring my little dining space in the kitchen. What an honor! Hope your New Year is off to a good start. :)ReplyDelete
Hi Marty! First, thank you for hosting this party. I love your selections this week, wow! Happy New Year! DiannaReplyDelete
Getting back into the swing of things myself - fabulous features - hope your Christmas clean up goes well - I just started today! I do appreciate you hosting,ReplyDelete
Great features! Thank you for hosting. Wishing you a happy New Year! Toodles, Kathryn @TheDedicatedHouseReplyDelete


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Town Sports International (TSI), New York, had slight increases in fourth quarter 2011 and year-end revenue, and the company eyes growth over the next three years.
TSI, which operates New York Sports Clubs, Philadelphia Sports Clubs, Boston Sports Clubs and Washington Sports Clubs, reported $115.8 million in fourth quarter 2011 revenue, a 1.5 percent increase from $114.1 million in fourth quarter 2010, according to financials released Wednesday. For the year, TSI generated $466.9 million in revenue, a 1 percent increase from $462.4 million in 2010.
Net income increases were considerably higher for TSI. The company had $3.3 million in net income in fourth quarter 2011 compared to $1.3 million in the same period a year ago. Net income for 2011 was $6.3 million compared to a net loss of $290,000 in 2010.
Cash flow from operating activities for full-year 2011 totaled $74.9 million, an increase of $23.6 million from full-year 2010. Net debt for the company is down $33.8 million from a year ago.
"Some of the success in 2011 might have come from a stable or slightly improved economy," TSI CEO Bob Giardina told analysts in an earnings call Wednesday. "But I believe what is really driving our business is the successful programs and strategies to drive membership and improve revenue that the team implemented."
TSI enjoyed a 6.1 percent jump in membership in 2011, an increase of 30,000 to approximately 523,000 members. The 30,000 member increase was double the company's plan for 2011.
For 2012, the company plans to invest $25 million to $28 million in capital expenditures compared to $30.9 million in 2011. About $2.5 million to $3 million will be earmarked for 2012 and 2013 club openings. Giardina added that TSI expects to open one new club this year, three to six clubs in 2013 and six to 12 clubs in 2014.
"Our business is now firmly back on track," Giardina said. "We are increasing our member base, driving ancillary revenue, posting same-club revenue increases and improving EBITDA and making rapid progress towards a 20 percent annual EBITDA margin."
TSI operated 160 clubs as of Dec. 31, 2011, the majority of which were New York Sports Clubs (106). The company opened two new clubs last year, one in Garnerville, NY, and one in Bayonne, NJ. Each of those clubs is 26,000 square feet.
"Our first two new club openings in almost three years have been met with great success," Giardina said. "We built each club for less than $4 million each versus previously established plans of almost $6 million per club, and each club opened its doors with almost twice as many members as planned."
Giardina added that the company believes there are more than 50 opportunities in Boston and New York City for its 20,000-square-foot fitness-only club model and that the company is focusing its club growth on smaller fitness-only clubs within its urban markets.
"The industry is growing, we're growing and the number one resolution this year was to lose weight and join a gym," Giardina said. "You add all of that up, and we're excited about our prospects."
On Thursday, TSI, which is traded on the NASDAQ Stock Exchange, surged 12.9 percent to $10.13 for a market cap of $231.5 million. John Udovich of SmallCapNetwork.com reported that the stock is up 37 percent since the start of the year and 136.7 percent over the past year. However, he noted, TSI is down 49 percent over the past five years. TSI stock reached $24 in April 2007.

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The annual race, sponsored by the San Juan Record, begins at 10 a.m. at Newspaper Rock. Racers wind their way 6.2 miles through spectacular Indian Creek Canyon in the height of the fall colors.
The finish line is at the mouth of the canyon near the Dugout Ranch.
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It's Myst meets Lost meets Lara Croft on Windows 8 — with a virtual reality twist.
That's one way to wrap your head around "Adera," a hidden-object mystery game that will unfold like a television show on Microsoft's new operating system, in a series of episodes across multiple seasons. Part of a portfolio of games being released on Windows 8 under the Xbox Live brand, Adera is designed to appeal in part to adult women who wouldn't normally be heavy Xbox Live gamers.
Microsoft gave the first public preview of the game during the Penny Arcade Expo in Seattle over the weekend. Developed by HitPoint Studios and published by Microsoft, Adera has elements of a casual game, revolving around a series of hidden-object challenges and puzzles. Adera also has the characteristics of a Hollywood production, with a mysterious story line told in part through eye-catching cinematics.
Adera will work on any Windows 8 machine, but it was made with tablets in mind. In addition to using multitouch controls, people who play Adera on tablets will will be able to take advantage of Windows 8's sensor support — leveraging accelerometer and gyroscope technology to pan around certain scenes in the game by moving the tablet through the physical space around them, creating a dynamic window into the virtual world.
"It's a hidden object game but we really wanted to turn the crank on the genre," said Microsoft's Jim Hawk, executive producer of Adera, during an interview at PAX. "It's been getting stale. People have been seeing the same thing. We wanted to bring a lot more to it."
In every room, there's something extra to find, beyond the objects needed to complete the mission. The idea is to make the episodes replayable and immersive, and keep people engaged with the story.
The first episode starts with the protagonist, Jane, exploring a mysterious helicopter crash site where another character, Hawk, needs medical attention. It's not clear exactly what has happened, allowing gamers to figure out the story line as they solve puzzles and explore new scenes.
The creators have already mapped out the story arc over five seasons. That's where the comparisons to television shows come into play.
"Writing a story like 'Lost' is really hard," Hawk said. "It's not just about what you're telling people in the story, it's about what you're not telling them, as well. In order to take that extra step, to hold information back to create intrigue, you have to know what you're doing in the fifth season."
Adera is just one of dozens of Xbox Live titles that will be released for Windows 8, tapping into the features of Microsoft's online gaming system, including achievements. But the company is putting a particular emphasis on Adera as a way of broadening the audience for Windows 8 games beyond existing Xbox Live users, and expanding the appeal of Xbox Live in the process.
"What we really want to do is bring Live out to the masses and make them understand that there's something there for everyone," said Frank Pape, studio manager for Windows 8 games at Microsoft, citing the demographic of women ages 35 to 55 years old as an example.
"We're going to bring a game that's right in their wheelhouse and bring Live integration that they'll find really compelling, and will become addictive for them, as opposed to throwing your typical 'arcadey' fast-paced, 18- to 26-year-old male titles at them," Pape said. "We have some of those in the portfolio, as well, but we know we have to focus on that broader audience and bring them over to Live."
Microsoft is also aiming for a global audience, localizing Adera into 40 languages, which involved hiring voiceover actors around the world.
The first episode will be free, with about three to four hours of gameplay, and future installments will be available for purchase at a price not yet announced. Microsoft has struck deals with PC makers to preinstall the game on millions of Windows 8 PCs, making it visible on the Windows 8 Start screen with a live tile that will update gamers when new episodes are available.
By the way, you may have noticed that the executive producer of the game shares a name with one of the main characters. Asked about that, Jim Hawk laughed and shook his head, explaining that the character's name was inserted by the developers in an early build, and it stuck.
Another interesting factoid: The CEO of the game's developer, Massachusetts-based HitPoint, is Aaron St. John, the younger brother of Alex St. John, a fixture in the gaming industry who was one of the driving forces behind Microsoft's push into video games during his time with the company.
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PLYMOUTH, NH-The University of Massachusetts Dartmouth's baseball team scored 28 runs on 39 hits and defeated host Plymouth State, 7-1 and 21-11, in a Little East Conference doubleheader at Panther Park Saturday. The second game was called after seven innings due to the 10-run rule.
Sophomore right-hander Shane Campbell (Marlboro, MA/Marlboro HS) pitched an eight-hitter in the opener, limiting the Panthers to a single run. Freshman right fielder Pete Beksha (Franklin, MA/Franklin HS) tied the game in the third with an RBI single, sophomore catcher Matt Ryan (Uxbridge, MA/Uxbridge HS) doubled home a run and junior left fielder Tom LaDore (Milford, CT/Foran HS) singled in another in the fourth to give UMD the lead for good, and junior third baseman Dave McGuire (Plainville, MA/King Phillip Regional HS) hit a three-run home in the seventh and singled home another run in the ninth. Campbell earned the win and improved to 2-4, while Bryant Lausberg went the distance for PSU and took the loss to fall to 1-4.
The Corsairs scored four runs in the top of the first inning in the nightcap, but it was 5-5 after three innings and 8-6, Panthers after four before UMD used a pair of seven-run innings to break the game open. Sophomore shortstop Ryan McDermott (Pembroke, MA) and junior center fielder Jeff Macchi (Franklin, MA/Franklin HS) each had two-run singles in UMD's seven-run fifth. Ryan and senior designated hitter Casey Askeland (Dartmouth, MA/Dartmouth HS) each hit a two-run homer and Beksha hit a three-run shot in the seven-run seventh. Macchi finished with six hits and four runs batted in, McDermott and Beksha each drove in three runs, and McGuire had three hits and scored four times. Mike Cappiello homered and drove in three runs for the Panthers. Freshman John Quigg (Weymouth, MA/Archbishop Williams HS) started for the Corsairs and pitched into the seventh inning, earning the win and improving to 1-0. Jonathan Bishop started for Plymouth State and took the loss, falling to 2-3.
"We really pounded the ball," said UMass Dartmouth Head Coach Bob Curran. "We had a bunch of hits in each game, and it was good to go up there and win twice."
UMD improved to 9-23 and 5-7 in the Little East Conference, while PSU dropped to 14-21 and 1-11 in LEC play. The Corsairs will return to action when they host Western Connecticut State in a Little East Conference doubleheader Sunday.


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As Texans wait to see if she'll run for governor, Sen. Wendy Davis talked about her "super-supercurly hair," her life and her political prospects in an article in Vogue, which features a photo of her in the Capitol wearing a Carolina Herrera dress and Reed Krakoff pumps.
It's another national splash for the senator from Fort Worth who caught widespread attention with her filibuster against tighter abortion restrictions, and it was quickly picked up by Politico.
The Vogue writer, Heidi Mitchell, recounts a visit with Davis, D-Fort Worth, her daughters and her "scruffy but handsome" boyfriend, former Austin Mayor Will Wynn:
"They've traveled home to Fort Worth to attend the annual Fourth of July parade in neighboring Arlington, and to spend some quality time with their mother, state senator Wendy Davis. Amber, 31, a petite brunette in a blue-and-white polka-dot sundress, hands me a glass of Sancerre… A scruffy but handsome Will Wynn, Senator Davis's boyfriend, an energy and public-health consultant and the former mayor of Austin, passes me a plate of sliced organic local peaches and plums. Playful teasing ensues: about Wynn's squeamishness at watching Girls….about their mom's naturally curly hair and the inconceivable number of products she collects to tame it."
Davis says her "super-supercurly hair" is "a constant struggle."
She talked to the writer about her teen marriage, her time as a single mother and her road from that to college and a political career. The story says her daughters, Amber and Dru, have encouraged her fashion consciousness and her political ambitions.
Mitchell writes that Davis "understands that the media enthusiasm … will pass":
"And she's also realistic: To be a Democrat in Texas anywhere but in the urban centers is to be an outlier. Last year, Obama took only 26 of the state's 254 counties. But that doesn't mean she isn't raring for a fight. "I'm a very competitive person," she says …. "You won't change things unless you are prepared to fight, even if you don't win." She pauses. "But I do hate losing."


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Happy New Year, Tomahawk! I am the former Debbie Smith, Class of 1969. I now work for a daily newspaper, The Daily News, in Huntingdon, PA. It is really great to see excerpts from around Tomahawk on this site.
Deb Shope
USA - Wednesday, December 29, 1999 at 15:38:08 (EST)
First of all I wish all you people a merry christmas and a good start for the new year 2000. My question is, if anyone can tell me somthing about a german pupil named Jannis Cordts, who is staying since summer 1999 for one year. His father and me we are at the same school here in Hannover (Germany) and he wants to know, if there are some news in your news-paper about him. I hope you can help me anyway. Thanks and much greetings from germany Paul R. Hilpert
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Ronnenberg, Germany - Thursday, December 23, 1999 at 13:19:37 (EST)
Hello everyone, I wanted to wish all my family and friends back in Tomahawk a Merry Christmas. Just is not the same down here without the snow. Hope everyone has a great New Year, and cheers on the Badgers at the Rose Bowl. Take care.
Jody Walbeck < email@example.com >
Oklahoma City, ok USA - Saturday, December 18, 1999 at 14:46:35 (EST)
Hello Tomahawk. Ever since I found out about your website I have been checking in at least once a week. It is a great way to keep up on what's happening in my home town,not being able to visit very often. My mom Helen Beiler and a lot of my brothers and sister still live there and I keep up with them on local news too. But this site is great. Keep up the good work. I would like to wish everyone in Tomahawk a Merry Christmas and a fruit full new year. Phil Beiler (Class Of 65)
Phil Beiler < email@example.com >
Fremont, CA USA - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 18:12:33 (EST)
I want to wish my Mom (Carol) and Dad (Hank) Williams, and all of my friends and family in Tomahawk a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. May 2000 be your best year yet. Love, Hope
Hope Williams < email@example.com >
Oklahoma City, OK USA - Wednesday, December 15, 1999 at 14:38:19 (EST)
Hi I am a Tomahawk native now living in HB, CA. I have two Rose Bowl tickets for sale for the Wisconsin/Stanford football game in the Rose Bowl on January 1, 2000. Anyone interested in purchasing them, please email me at home: email@example.com or at work only until Dec. 17 firstname.lastname@example.com. The ticket price on the face of the ticket is $110 each plus a handling charge charge by the U. of Wis. Please email me ASAP if you are interested in purchasing the tickets. Thank you for your interest. HM
Helen McCormick McGinley < firstname.lastname@example.com >
Huntington Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, December 08, 1999 at 15:43:55 (EST)
hey, my name is amanda garfield AND JUST LOVE TOMAHAWK! i've lived here my whole life and i visit this page every wednesday!!!! i'm a freshmen in high school and i just wanted to tell you to keep up the good work!!!!!!
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tomahawk, wi USA - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 21:24:16 (EST)
hey, my name is amanda garfield AND JUST LOVE TOMAHAWK! i've lived here my whole life and i visit this page every wednesday!!!! i'm a freshmen in high school and i just wanted to tell you to keep up the good work!!!!!!
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tomahawk, wi USA - Thursday, November 25, 1999 at 21:23:57 (EST)
I have been gone from Tomahawk for two years now. I greatly miss the peace and quiet I took for granted for over twenty years. I'm really glad to see this website. It lets me have a little piece of home with me here in the windy city......send me an e-mail......
DeeAnne DeVoy(Vink) < firstname.lastname@example.com >
Chicago, il USA - Saturday, November 20, 1999 at 01:04:56 (EST)
THANK YOU, TOMAHAWK! For a great time...We could not believe how beautiful your town and people where. Your welcome was so great the we all feel homesick now. You're the best. Special thanks to Eileen and Tracy for all your help and to The Four Seasons Motel for putting us up, you have a fantastic place there and we will certainly be back.
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Chicago , IL USA - Thursday, November 18, 1999 at 21:54:39 (EST)
I was born in Tomahawk in 1923 and baptized in St. Mary's Church by Father Schmidt. I was delivered by Nurse Lund in the Wipperfurth house on Spirit Ave. When I was 12 we moved to Idaho. I've had a long journey and now live in Concord, Ca. I return to Tomahawk almost every year to visit my Aunt, Uncle, Cousins and 'kindergarten' friend. The North woods are beautiful as ever. I enjoy the spring flowers and birds. Betty Wipperfurth Gallagher email@example.com
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Concord, Ca. USA - Tuesday, November 16, 1999 at 20:39:52 (EST)
Any one who is interested in protecting the Tomahawk/northwoods area from defacing by the WPS powerline project should check out www.wakeupwisconsin.com and the Tomahawk Leader's bulletin board. Write to the Public Service Commission, the governor, and state agencies before they give away OUR land to corporate interests!! (I live in MN, but own land in Price county and have family in Tomahawk.) Thanks to everyone for their support!!!!
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Mankato, MN USA - Saturday, November 13, 1999 at 12:17:40 (EST)
Hello, I'm a senior at T.H.S. I lived here in tomahawk for four year and love it up here. Except my lake keeps going dry and the schools a little to crowded for my liking.
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Tomahawk, wi USA - Friday, November 12, 1999 at 13:18:49 (EST)
Hello everyone,I was born and raised in Tomahawk and graduated from the high school in 86. I now live in Oklahoma with my wife and two kids. I work as a flight simulator technician here.I am going to try to get back up to Tomahawk this spring after the snow melts there, ha ha.Drop me a line I would be glad to hear from you.
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Altus, Ok USA - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 19:11:08 (EST)
Correction on email address firstname.lastname@example.com Leland Montabon
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USA - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 18:27:53 (EST)
As I am a neophyte to computer use I hope I am getting to the Tomahawk Leader? To My classmates and friends. Spent my formative years in Tomahawk. Graduated H.S. in 1941 Then to engineering school. Drafted in 1943. Sent to the U. of Wisconsin, then to south pacific. Married to Shirley Pearce, we had three children, Alan, Lou amd Tina. Worked for General Electric Medical Systems for 37 years and now have retired and live in Colorado. Will be looking forward to our 60th class reunion in Tomahawk in 2001. Would enjoy hearing from any of you with or without a computer. My Email address is firstname.lastname@example.com. Regards Leland (Lee) Montabon
Leland Montabon
USA - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 17:02:04 (EST)
Hope I am getting to the Tomahawk Leader Guestbook?
Leland Montabon
USA - Wednesday, November 10, 1999 at 16:43:55 (EST)
Hello from Indiana! I think the world of this web site! I just wanna say that I love Tomahawk and all the people that live there! I vacation in Rhinelander every year and I have been for the past 28 years straight! But as always we make sure that we stop and visit good ole Tomahawk. My family and I sure like your speedway though the best! I take that back, I LOVE the beautiful scenery there the most! I am 31 years old but I plan on living up there someday after our kid graduates in 5 years. If anybody that reads this knows Gary and Alma Ramsey of Rhinelander, tell them Dennis from Indiana said hello and we hope to see them again next year. Also I would LOVE to hear from anyone else that reads this, please just simply e-mail me at the address below. Please check out my homepage at: members.tripod.com/d.medbourn/index-2.html
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Logansport, In USA - Monday, November 08, 1999 at 12:43:36 (EST)
Hello to all in Hatchet Creek. Miss not being able to fish King's Dam and Lake Mohawksin. Also miss the Moscow Mules at the Little Green Lake. I think Julio's fishing report is great. Keeps me in touch with the current conditions even if I can't be there. Thanks for a great web site.
Ron Zanko < firstname.lastname@example.com >
Phoenix , AZ USA - Thursday, November 04, 1999 at 11:41:49 (EST)
Just wanted to say hi to famliy and friends thinking of you
Robert Lawrence < firstname.lastname@example.com >
Rochester, NY USA - Tuesday, November 02, 1999 at 21:51:32 (EST)
Hi all you Roberts people!! Your paper makes me homesick, I read it often, thanks for the memories.
Mary McKibben < firstname.lastname@example.com >
NewUlm, Mn USA - Tuesday, November 02, 1999 at 18:55:42 (EST)
Helloooo Tomahawk!! Love the website. I can't wait to get back and see everyone again. Have a safe and happy holiday season.
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Omaha, NE USA - Monday, November 01, 1999 at 03:41:09 (EST)
My parents and I are from Texas. My brother, Gustavo, his wife, Becky, and my nephews live in Tomahawk. I find out what the weather is like and what's going on in their lives through Tomahawk Leader. I think it's great!
Thelma Buitron < email@example.com >
San Juan, TX USA - Tuesday, October 26, 1999 at 10:31:57 (EST)
Bob Cupido, my old fishing buddy if you see this drop me a line, I miss fishing with you. I will be moving to Tomahawk in 3 or 4 years...I can't wait. I love Tomahawk, I visit every year in October. Just discovered the Tomahawk Leader...great paper..keeps me up to date. Thanks alot!!!
Jane Gavlitta < firstname.lastname@example.com >
Milwaukee, Wi USA - Tuesday, October 05, 1999 at 20:13:48 (EST)
This is great! My mother wonders how I find out what is going on in Tomahawk.
Jim Siesennop < email@example.com >
New Hope, MN USA - Friday, October 01, 1999 at 21:11:59 (EST)
I vacationed in Tomahawk during the 50 & 60's as a child with my family. We always went to Bradley Park. Leo was caretaker. We reanted our boats from Leon at Lake Ice Co. Each nite we would go into town and buy bait for the next days fishing. My dad would drink a beer with Leon and my mom would visit with Florence. Us kids got ice cold pop and candy bar. We went bullheaden on the "big bridge" some nights and there was a time we seen the northern lights. I hate that Bradley Park is closed to camping it was the highlight of my childhood. My dream of taking my childern there is dead. I also miss the totum pole just as you came into town and the old log cabin Chamber of Commerce being right there by Ben Franklin. We ate out only once while on vacation and that was at the A & W. We made some wonder friends during our summers like the Kaggo's, Webbs and Meyers. The Meyers always parked down between the shelter house and bathroom. The Kaggo's had these huge tents. Those were the days. I miss you Bradley Park. My brother lives there and I plan on moving with my own family next year. We were originally from Chicago. Thanks for this website I keep up with it all the time. I sure do appreciate it. I'd love to hear from anyone who camped at Bradley during the 50 and 60's. We may know each other. Love you Tomahawk and if you want to do a friend a favor. Re-open Bradley. We spent alot of money on our vacations. I've searched for a camp ground to fill Bradley's shoes and found nothing. Tomahwak you have a blessed treasure and don't even know it.
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Anonymous Poster (profile), 18 Jun 2007 @ 4:15pmNow that's a sneaky move. But I bet it won't be long before people know about it now.
Douglas, 18 Jun 2007 @ 4:50pm
good ole AT&T,Embarq has a lot of problems and it sure cost more than 10$.
I need good ole AT&T, Maybe?
Richard K. Hargett, 5 Jun 2008 @ 3:37pm
Re: good ole AT&T,
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2007 @ 4:51pm
Net Neutrality My @$$So let me get this straight...I could get NetZero dial-up for $9.95, PeoplePC dial-up for $10.95, or AT&T DSL for $10.00? So basically, they're saying "768k of bandwidth costs us - and therefore you - the exact same as 56k of bandwidth, but we believe we aren't being unfair to lie to congress and try to get laws passed saying so anyway."
If there was ever a silver bullet for those against Net Neutrality, wouldn't this be it? Isn't this the one, single bit of proof that shatters the notion that more bandwidth costs more money?
Also I should mention that AT&T Worldnet (their old dial-up offering) is still $19.95 for legacy users who haven't dropped it or upgraded since they quit offering it, so for those who would argue "you're comparing two different companies" I regret to inform you that my point remains valid.
In AT&T's defense, I have Bellsouth DSL (well...AT&T now, I suppose) and at 8MBit/sec in a town where Charter Cable (3MBit/sec) is my only alternative, I'm quite pleased with it. Great service, fast, and never goes offline (once for 1 hour in 4 years). Of course, being less than 2 blocks from the DSL station might have something to do with that, but either way, it's really, really nice. I have no problem with their products, I simply dislike the way they spin the Net Neutrality debate.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2007 @ 5:12pm
An offer?Is it an really an "offer" if you don't communicate it? I don't think so. So they're not being "sneaky", they've actually failed to satisfy both the spirit and the letter of the agreement. Now will the FCC do the right thing and require that the merger be reversed? I doubt it.
Aaron, 19 Jun 2007 @ 10:01am
Re: An offer?That's true. It depends on the wording they used. "Offer" connotes telling people. If I offer you some ice cream, I'm obviously making you aware that the ice cream exists.
But if they said, "make available" or something like that, I can see it holding up in court.
Mossy, 20 Jun 2007 @ 3:13pm
Re: Re: An offer?But it doesn't tell you where the ice cream is, does it?
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2007 @ 5:25pm
"Up to"
One of the concessions was that within 6 months of the merger, the company would offer customers in certain "buildout areas" 768k (downstream) DSL for $10/month.Actually, they were only required to offer internet service at "a speed of up to 768 Kbps" for $10 per month. Don't forget that "up to 768 Kbps" includes "0 Kbps" so they really have to do is to offer to let people send them $10 per month for nothing and they are within the letter of the agreement. As it was written, all the agreement really does is prevent them from offering anything better than 768 Kbps for $10 per month.
hope you answer im stupid, 19 Jun 2007 @ 5:33pm
Re: "Up to"what is kbps i am confused
More Sneaky Offers, 18 Jun 2007 @ 5:33pm
Naked DSLDon't forget they also have to start providing naked dsl soon too. Lets see where they bury that offer.
Brian, 26 Aug 2007 @ 6:27pm
Re: Naked DSLThey are now offering dry dsl loops in Indiana-not sure of the price, but I have personally installed 2 in the last 2 weeks.
nomo, 18 Jun 2007 @ 5:54pm
AT&T sucksToday I tested a connection I installed for the company I work for. The download was 54MBS - Yeah 100 times faster then AT&T for 10 bucks. We have plans for 10 buck a month for 1mb speed. I pay for 3MB and AT&T only gave me that speed for a week... over a year later- we still fight. I am going to prove that AT&T actually on purpose cut my speed in half but makes me pay in full. I Would switch to the company I work for.. but how could I let my boss have all my ip info?? Esp if I ditch work?????? otherwise I would switch.
Gar, 19 Jun 2007 @ 10:34pm
Re: AT&T sucksI thought they had to offer the NAKED DSL for $10.00.
Any idea how much naked will cost or when it will be offered?
James R., 4 Aug 2007 @ 5:18pm
Re: AT&T sucksAT&T didn't cut your speed on purpose, or accident, or in any other way. I'm a dsl tech for AT&T and I troubleshoot 4-6 speed and connection trouble ticket per day. Your dslam, the equipment that supplies your dsl sync, is provisioned at a certain rate. That rate only changes when a valid order is processed. If your throughput has changed it means that there is a physical issue that is causing the problem. That could be line trouble, jack trouble, modem trouble, a bad dslam card, a faulty T1 supplying the dslam, unfiltered phone equipment in your house, or problems with your pc. Did you have a dsl tech come check your line? Did you see what your bandwidth readings were on his sunset meter? Did the tech run any speedtests on his gobook? If not, I suggest you have those things done.
bob allen, 1 Jun 2008 @ 9:42am
Re: AT&T sucksGOT ATT $10 MO FOR YEARS CONTRACT SUDDENLY BILLING STATED $32 MO. FOR DSL RAISED TOTAL HELL FOR OVER TWO HOURS ON PHONE GOT TRANSFERED TO EVERYONE THEN TO GOD OR JESUS I THINK AND NOW BACK TO $10 MO AND NOW THE SUCKER IS A MIRACLE IF IT WILL GET OVER 500KBS DOWNLOAD AND 200KBS UPLOAD AS THEY POKE IT TO YOU FOR MAKING THEM HONOR A CONTRACT AS THAT IS WHAT ATT HAS BECOME SO EM ME THE CO U WORK FOR AS HELL WITH ATT CONTRACT ILL SWITCH
JinGA, 12 Jul 2008 @ 8:51pm
Re: Re: AT&T sucksI tried to get the $10.00 DSL deal, and thought I had after speaking to three reps on the phone in early June, but couldn't because I dropped my landline. Like everyone has said, they don't make it easy. Just got my bill for $80.00. The charged me for two internet services and my landline that I cancelled plus an extra $5.00 fee for something else they didn't tell me about.
They gave me DSL Ultra when I requested the Lite. I had to use my time ....lots of it and speak to more than one person to change it. Then, request a refund which will take up to two billing cycles...for $20.00 + and they still have not emailed me to confirm the switch. I think they are purposely giving people the more expensive service that they did not agree to in hopes that they will not notice, will not go through the hassle of changing, or will not want to "downgrade" do a lower service. I kept arguing with the 3 customer service people that it is not called "downgrading" when you are just requesting that you get for you asked for.
I REPORTED THEM TO A LOCAL TV CONSUMER WATCH AND THE BBB. Got a call from AT&T corporate office in Atlanta. Eric Watts (Eric something)I think was his name. I told him exactly what I thought they were doing and that it is "slimy" business practices to bait and switch with the plans. He kept disagreeing with me that their practices were wrong or "slimy", but he never denied that they were doing it. The BBB closed the case. I think the local TV station dropped it because their customer service was handling it. I got one call saying they were on top of the issue and would email me, nothing yet. But at least I got their attention.
I am also stuck with the option of crappy AT&T or even crappier Comcast.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2007 @ 7:06pmoh my gosh -- the best part about this article is the ad for AT&T that popped up underneath it. "AT&T DSL: SBC is now AT&T, Plans start at only $14.95 a month not contract". I love irony.
Anonymous Coward, 18 Jun 2007 @ 7:33pmmy girlfriend works for cingular/att. she said the plan for the old cingular stores its to 1st change brands which hers has and quite a few have already. but also offer land lines service, sell land phones, and dsl. its just taking a long time to rebrand.
mr magoo, 20 Jun 2007 @ 7:06am
no diceUnable to find anything about the $10 dollar a month service on AT&T's web site and only passing mention of it on the BellSouth web page I decided to give AT&T a call. They are my local phone provider here in Pennsylvania and I also have their cell phone service (my wife got me stuck in some 2 year plan.) After being passed around and given multiple numbers to call I was finally given 1-800-967-5363. This will allow you to talk directly to the DSL department with any questions regarding this matter. I should note that all representatives I spoke with were obviously outsourced, probably Indian, so it made communications difficult and frustrating.
My first go resulted in the representative saying that the $10 offer was not available to me so I asked to speak with the manager. The manager said the "special offer" was only available in 22 states. I asked him to list them and he gave me the following: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, and Wisconsin. I asked him why it is only available in those states. He didn't know. I then told him that I had family in California who would be interested in this DSL price, how do I directly access the AT&T web page that details this "special offer." He directed me to att.net which uncovered nothing, then to att.com/localhelp which also uncovered nothing, finally he told me to go to newatt.com which redirects you to attfashion.net a site selling shoes. At this point he was getting frustrated and said he would connect me to one of his "DSL specialists" to resolve the matter.
Can you guess what happened? He redirected me back to the main menu of 1-800-967-5363. *sigh* I waited on hold again for another outsourced Indian representative. This lady was armed with a lot of information. She was obviously reading a printed statement and basically said that the $10 offer is only available where BellSouth owns the land lines. Because Verizon owns the land lines in Pennsylvania the service is not available. I asked when the offer would be available to Pennsylvania and she said she did not have that information.
She then tried to sell on the 19.99 DSL offer. No thanks. Much faster than the $10 offer! No thanks. How about AT&T dial up? No thanks. Its very fast with an accelerator! No thanks. Would you like AT&T wireless? I have it already, it sucks and is overpriced. How about adding another line? *CLICK*
That was my experience. I say to hell with AT&T. Although if you're in one of those 22 states you might be in luck and your best bet is probably ordering it over the phone.
Marvin, 20 Jun 2007 @ 4:29pm
Only available for 12 months in TexasAlthough 30 months is specified, the current AT&T listing shows $10 service available for only 12 months currently.
Plamen, 20 Jun 2007 @ 6:25pmBefore the ATT/BellSouth merger I had 1.5MB ATT DSL for $12.99/month. A few months after I was switched to 1.5MB at $19.99/month and when I complained I ended up with 0.75MB at $15/month (over 200% increase on a $ per MB basis). When I tried to switch to the new 0.75MB at $10/month, I was told that I need to be a new customer. Even if my wife starts a new service under her name though, switching to the $10 DSL still does not make sense, because then you get charged $50 for a DSL modem, while with the $15/month DSL you get the modem for free.
In short, the new $10 DSL is a bunch of boloney. I do realize that 10 or 15 bucks is not a lot of money for most people, but it is a sad state of affairs when in Korea speeds of below 10MB are not even considered broadband and here in the US we are going backwards - offering slower speeds for more money.
My retirement portfolio is 60% international now and I bet the next Google / Microsoft will not be a US company.
DK, 21 Jun 2007 @ 5:31pmAll sites say 22 states get the $10 plan. No one lists what the 22 states are. Can you tell me?
Mick Neal, 21 Jun 2007 @ 7:32pm
List of states from previous post: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Tennessee, and Wisconsin
Lenny, 22 Jun 2007 @ 6:34pm
Found the link to $10 DSL, but good luck getting iThe link to the $10 DSL, which has to be ordered online, is hidden under a "term contract plans available" item on this page: http://www.bellsouth.com/consumer/inetsrvcs/index.html
This link is just above the Terms and Conditions section near the bottom of the web page.
Here's the kicker though -- on the fast access DSL page, there's a place to enter your phone number to check to see if DSL is "available" for your phone line. Of course, it IS NOT AVAILABLE to me. They say in their FAQs that one can check back often to see if DSL has become available in your area, but as long as they are forced to "offer" the $10 DSL lite, it seems to me there is little incentive for them to expand their coverage.
Harry, 2 Jun 2008 @ 1:38am
Re: Found the link to $10 DSL, but good luck getting iI went to the link you provided Lenny. They said I don't have an ATT account, correction: not found, is what it said. Yea, good luck getting it!!
Ron, 23 Jun 2007 @ 8:01am
They're hiding it alrightThe terms page is at
How long has this offer be available?
I'm not sure how often the link changes, but they're avoiding it like it will kill them. I know a school teacher that needed this rate, and AT&T gave her a so called "great deal" knowing she didn't really have the money. They charged her for the modem, and they acted like they were doing her a favor by giving her the best deal and a "credit" after three months of the 15/mo service. Vultures!
Major Calumny, 24 Jun 2007 @ 3:27am
Vultures where they should be hummingbirdsAT&T has again mis-handled this deal--to serve their short term interests. No surprises to we end-users, eh?
I've been on dialup here in Florida since '95.
Have had Comcast cable for many years, but I would not submit to Comcast service: it's very poor, unreliable here in Miami.
They don't keep apppointments, they don't maintain cables, the whole nine yards of complaints, you know. Went two months without cable service because Comcast failed more than a dozen formally-scheduled service appointments to re-hang a fallen drop.
Well, sot that leaves BellSouth/AT&T.
It wasn't until recently that DSL was even available in my neighborhood. Dialup is awful, but it is the devil I know.
When I learned the other day about the $10/month with free modem "offer", learned of it on the 'net, I thought: 'First I'll call the order department and ask":
"There is no such plan that I know about. Really? Well, this is sales so you'll have to find out about that elsewhere."
Thank you, AT&T for caring (not).
Online, in the DSL order form: NO "offer", no mention, no nothing. The trick procedure is this (already mentioned above):
you must begin to jump through hoops as if you were ordering one of the firm's sheeple $$$ plans. It's only after you enter a virgin-to-broadband number, and answer in the negative two leading questions, that then you get to a page, which, without highlight of any kind, amazingly has the $10 per month lite DSL plan.
The "offer" does not really make clear that the modem is FREE, so long as you adhere (PAY) $10/month for one year.
NO upgrade of modem to "wireless gateway" is offered.
However, I found out the next morning, when my AT&T line went dead, that a person is free to buy a wired or wireless router, by which to add other computers in his/her home to the FREE AT&T modem. This can cost as little as forty bucks, for a wired router.
Yes, the morning after my online (only online!) 10 buck DSL order was placed, the house phone went dead. Drat, getting punished already?
No, I went outside, peered down the street to the neighborhood junction box where the phone techs are often at work. Yes, there was an AT&T panel van and one worker.
I queried him, to learn (politely) what he was doing that must've taken off my line. "Do you live at -----?".
"Oh, well!" he said, and he had my phone's wire-pair in hand, "I'm installing your DSL line right now! I'll be done in a minute and I'll call your line to verify it's working well at your end." (I paraphrase, but he was really nice.
He's the one who instructed me (a dummy) about sharing this minimal DSL service with my dad's computer elsewhere in our house.
He also confirmed (as did Mrs. AT& Sales-Only lady, my street, at present, can only garner 1.5mbs -at best-.
Therefore, I just won't shell out more money than this, for now, if that's all I could get, say 1mps or so.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING to learn in a few more days, when the FREE modem arrives, if "they" (the turd-wranglers making policy at AT&T) even allow we $10 the full "768kbs" potential we're supposedly paying for. OR will they throttle us down to half of that, or less? And would, say, my next door neighbor (hypothetical because he's dead), on say, their premium plan, would he be allotted the full 1.5mbs?
Between the choice of fast but evil Comcast, from whom I shy on principle and on practice of frequently-failed service,
between Comcast the Ditz and Liar, and AT&T, the oily-haired, parsimonious Thief...well, I don't know but that dialup retains certain charms yet to come.
Majorly pained,
Paul, 29 Jun 2007 @ 6:49pm
Not such a BAD DEALThe $10 DSL was specifically listed in the ATT to FCC consession letter (I used Google to get a PDF of the letter from the FCC web site after just after the merger) as promoting broadband. The offer was supposed to be for former Bellsouth customers.
Bellsouth was the greedy baby bell that made you pay something like 24.95 per month for a DSL lite that was actually DSL ultralight (5x dialup as I recall).
I was waiting for the offer since the 6 month clock in the letter was about to run out. The day after I heard it was available, I signed up (Wednesday). The free modem got here Monday. The installation failed (no DSL sync).
After a long wait on the hold, the phone support guy went through his check list & he decided a technician visit was required. They offered to send a guy the next day, but I scheduled the visit for Thuresday 8-12 so I could be home.
He showed up at 9:00, found that my house was not getting DSL, went to a connection box a couple of blocks away & fixed a wiring problem. My DSL (660 k tested speed) was running by 10:00. An hour or so later I set up my $39 Wireless G router (I could of gotten one from ATT for an extra $5 per month, but they are just too cheep to not buy).
Rich, 30 Jun 2007 @ 1:24pm
Read the fine print...then read it again.Link to the $10 AT&T offer can be found at:
Go to following link:
scroll to bottom, and on right side click "Learn more" in box labeled "DSL at even a lower price!"
A year ago, I signed up for AT&T's "Pro" DSL service at $17.95 month for 1.5-3.0 mbps downstream. Maximum speed I could get was just under 970k (confirmed by tests on AT&T's own servers.)
Their tech support and service department couldn't agree what the problem was. Tech support said I was given "cheaper" speed, Service Dept said no. After listening to them arguing for 2 days, I cancelled the service, packed up the modem, and sent everything back COLLECT. Later, I filed a formal complaint with my states Consumer Regulatory Agency, about AT&T's false advertising.
As poster earlier stated, remember whichever service you apply for, no minimum speed is guaranteed, its all "up to".
Also keep in mind, the FCC sets regulations in accordance with the "policies" of the Administration then in power. (eg: The FCC approval for most the "baby Bells" (11 of the original 13) to merge back into todays AT&T, came while Michael Powell (Secretary of State & former General Colin Powell's son) was appointed Chairmain of the FCC by the current President.)
Rosa H. Sanders, 5 Jul 2007 @ 12:49pm
DSL Lite for 10.00 per month for 30 monthsAT&T is also not telling how to order this DSL for the 10.00 a month pricing, because if you go to the ordering page it gives the promo price only of 19.95 per month with a 1 year committment.
Owen, 17 Jul 2007 @ 2:07pm
AT&T "read the fine print"truelly AT&T is just one of those who wants to make money and dont think about the consumers needs... i checked there web site as well to shop for a new service and im happy to say that i'm keeping my Earthlink account for DSL service.. money is not an issue for as long as they are meeting my needs for internet connection... pls dont fall for a false promotion that you will regret in the end....
JOHN E. FOWLER, 18 Jul 2007 @ 4:44pm
Ex Manager, 18 Jul 2007 @ 11:39pm
Greedy BastardsIs anyone really surprised. This illustrates that they did not negotiate in good faith or in the sincere interest of the consumers - ACTIONS DO SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS. I worked there and can tell you that (in my humble opinion)they are driven by nothing but greed. It became increasingly disgusting how meetings focused on new ways to squeeze more and more money from customers. The discussions on delivering better value were wrapped in the twisted propoganda sales BS about why customers should pay more. I pray that wireless will take off strong and these A-holes can eat their copper lines.
Mark, 27 Jul 2007 @ 7:42am
"Technical Difficulties" registeringAfter eventually finding the $10 "lite" option and completing the contract, at final submission click a large red pop-up said "we are having technical difficulties". So, am I out $120 (give or take the $50 cancellation fee) or not?
Ed, 29 Jul 2007 @ 7:56pm
AT&T RunaroundI submitting my phone number for DSL several times and getting, "Service not available".
When I received a flyer in the mail offering DSL Lite for $19.95,I called AT&T. Was told my line was at capacity, but could put me on list to be worked in. When I stated I wanted the $10.00 /mo. DSL, I was told the plan required one year contract and was $10.00/mo. for first 6 months, then $24.95 ea month. I declined.
Has anyone actually been signed up on a $10.00 mo./1-year plan?
Windy, 31 Jul 2007 @ 7:52amAccording to what I have read on the Bellsouth/AT&T website, in certain states, you can get Fastaccess DSL Lite for 19.95 a month with a free modem with no contract OR you can get the same Fastaccess DSL Lite for 10.00 a month but you have to pay $75.00 for the modem and the $10.00 per month is only good thru December of 2009. After that time, the price goes to whatever the price of DSL Lite is at that time.
Derrick Hoon, 3 Aug 2007 @ 12:14pm
$10 DSL scamYou may also want to keep in mind that the fiber optics are already in the ground. and The overall bandwith of those fibers has not been reached, not due to the fact that they dont have to burry or dig up any lines. The work that need to be done to really fire up the speed of the internet is in the switches look it up. The technology is growing rapidly now.
dan, 7 Aug 2007 @ 4:23am
at&t10 dslWhat areas is it available?
Anonymous Coward, 11 Aug 2007 @ 11:52pm
Sixth week report of the $10 DSL service qualityI knew there would be some extra charge tacked onto the bill.
The hidden extra cost imposed, is $6/mo for "access", a charge "allowed by the FCC".
So, the service is $16/mo, bottom line.
The quality: My terminal is several hundred feet from the neighborhood's main hard-wired junction box. My 786kbs-paid-rate is verified available there.
Losses in the buried cable between the box and my computer cost about 100kb.
Speed tests always show the same rate: about 690kbs on average for download, and about 108kbs upload.
That's fine and fair. The service is reliable. There has not been an outage yet noticed.
The bandwidth is adequate for downloading YouTube quality videos in streaming mode.
Therefore, I'm happy with the service. It beats dealing Miami's terrible, unresponsive, irresponsible, unreliable Comcast cable.
A good deal. A router allows my dad to share the service.
Two happy campers for $16/mo. for the next thirty months, before ATT can jack up the rate.
Major Calumny, 11 Aug 2007 @ 11:53pm
Sixth week report of the $10 DSL service qualityI knew there would be some extra charge tacked onto the bill.
The hidden extra cost imposed, is $6/mo for "access", a charge "allowed by the FCC".
So, the service is $16/mo, bottom line.
The quality: My terminal is several hundred feet from the neighborhood's main hard-wired junction box. My 786kbs-paid-rate is verified available there.
Losses in the buried cable between the box and my computer cost about 100kb.
Speed tests always show the same rate: about 690kbs on average for download, and about 108kbs upload.
That's fine and fair. The service is reliable. There has not been an outage yet noticed.
The bandwidth is adequate for downloading YouTube quality videos in streaming mode.
Therefore, I'm happy with the service. It beats dealing Miami's terrible, unresponsive, irresponsible, unreliable Comcast cable.
A good deal. A router allows my dad to share the service.
Two happy campers for $16/mo. for the next thirty months, before ATT can jack up the rate.
Jill, 8 Jul 2008 @ 1:59pm
Re: Sixth week report of the $10 DSL service qualityWhat do the taxes for this service add up to? On the web page it says there will be taxes applied.
Carl, 17 Aug 2007 @ 2:38pm
Owen's threadIf you ever dump your Earthlink make sure you follow their
directions. They will continue to bill you if you don't.
And in my case even after jumping thru all the hoops.
I choose the Certified mail/return receipt option and it still
took 5 months to get the billing stopped. Check out
www.badbusinessbureau.com search by company name. Might be
a good idea to use this site for any purchases that you are
contemplating on line.
George Reynolds, 25 Aug 2007 @ 6:23pm
Just Promises and higher bills from AT&TWhen I was switched to AT&T from So. Central Bell the first month my long distance rate went from $.17 a minute to $.34 cents a minute. I had ask for a DSL line for 3 years, it was not a mile away. Now they have not lived up to the bargain they made with the FCC for $10 a month DSL service. I am greatly disapointed. Poor service and higher bills.
George Reynolds
don Miller, 29 Aug 2007 @ 9:05am
AT&T $10 dslIt is on the AT&T web site and not hard find if you look.
dorothy blu, 10 Sep 2007 @ 1:47pm
HOW DO I GET CHEAP DSL,WHERE I AM???ANHYONE KNOW??I was totally spoiled by Comcast for 6 months;I deliberately got dial-up,cause I had to use the computer less,I got tendonitus from too much artwork on oekaki sites(Japanese art software,it's a community thing.)So,I would like dsl,if I can get it,cheap,where I am;eugene,Oregon,97404.Anyone know if I can wrangle it there somewhow?any experts know this?Post it,or email me,(best)and let me know,especially if it's possible.AT & T said"no,not where you are."IS this the truth?thanks all :)
Shawn, 8 Oct 2007 @ 1:02pm
The plan works!All you have to do is 1 - be in a state referenced in the FCC merger agreement. 2-not be a current BellSouth DSL customer.
Go to the fastaccess page, and look for a line in fine print below the slowest speed that says "See if you qualify for an even lower speed!" When you click that, it will take you back to the top of the page to enter your BellSouth phone number, and then ask you two questions (say no). Then you are at the ten dollar page.
Now, to figure out how to hold them to the cheap naked DSL price! (You can get cheap, like 19 a month DSL without a voice phone line). Its' in the agreement. Go to the FCC page, select more headlines, then look waaaaay down for the agreement terms.
Man94110, 17 Oct 2007 @ 4:12pmAT&T's methods illustrate what is increasingly a problem in our society - lack of ethics. Many companies these days require their employees to attend "ethics" training, but at the top of the organization they do whatever it takes to get business - even it is done in a dishonest way. They do it until they are caught, pay a small fine, admit no wrongdoing and move on to the next scam.
Orion B, 26 Oct 2007 @ 10:30am
After searching for an hour or so...Aiyayai... if you made it far enough down to read this, you know what I'm aiyayai-ing about. After many small-print combings, phone calls, and everything else I could think of, I was rather put off.
..and then I found this: http://www.stephouse.net/
They offer a DSL connection independent of local service providers. $50 a month, but unless I had gotten that %#@%@ hidden $10 offer I'd have been paying more than that to AT&T, even without making a single phone call.
So yeah! If you've actually found my comment in these 4 dozen others, go give it a look!
bab, 10 Dec 2007 @ 9:41am
AT&T web page to $10 DSL deal
Esho tamras, 31 Dec 2007 @ 4:29pm
at&t dslWhen is the last day for this $10.00 conncetion.
JRR, 7 Jan 2008 @ 7:36am
Live in TX still couldn't get dslI went to the http://attsignup.com/att_dsl_for_$10.htm site where I discovered via pop-up message that dsl was not available at my location, which I find difficult to believe considering I live in the Dallas area. I spoke with a rep via live chat and asked, "if dsl is not available in Dallas County, where is it available then". The rep replied, "It could be because there are no ports left in your area. It's like a parking lot, once all the spaces are filled there is not way in knowing when one will become available." I am still waiting to hear back from AT&T to see if I "qualify" for the satellite broadband.
JRR, 10 Jan 2008 @ 3:12pm
Live inDallas County Texas absolutely cannot get dI tried calling AT&T again. Apparently, one has to live 18,000 feet or closer to their "wire center". I live 21,000 feet away. I asked the rep where the "wire center" was (thinking maybe I could MOVE close enough to get the $10/month dsl) and she was appalled that I asked and exclaimed, "I cannot divulge that information...people might vandalize the wire center". Fair enough.
I called everybody that was listed in the yellow pages under High Speed Internet. The best I can get is Broadband Satellite (lo and behold AT&T does offer that) which is very pricey, includes adding a satellite dish OTHER than the one I've already got on my roof and requires a 1 or 2 year contract depending on which swindler...er...I mean company you would want to use. What a racket. And of course, there was the obligatory automated customer service hell to wade through only to speak to an outsourced (albeit kindly) individual that was extremely difficult to understand.
Surely some company out there is going to be bright enough to capitalize on the old fashioned concept of "customer service".
BL, 13 Jan 2008 @ 12:02pm
DSL in Dallas Co-try Earthlink insteadI have also been told that ATT DSL is not avaiable where I live in Dallas Co. The irony is that I have had ATT DSL before (I was "grandfathered in" since I joined while it was SBC). When I moved to another apartment in the same complex, ATT would not let me subcribe to DSL (due to the distance fromt the station) even though I patiently explained that I had had their service for over a year with no problems. So I am now using Earthlink DSL which is ok but not as cheap ($30/mo).
an, 18 Jan 2008 @ 12:01pm'Naked DSL': how to find and get the best price
By Michael Sorkin
Friday, Jan. 18 2008
Here's something you should know when you order DSL service from AT&T: The
company sells the same speed Internet service at $10, $15 and $20 per month.
— The $14.99 service is called Basic DSL and is the easiest to get. Anyone with
an AT&T landline phone can order it by phone or online.
— The $10 DSL service can be ordered only online, and hundreds of consumers
have had trouble signing up for this, the company's cheapest-ever DSL. AT&T
says it won't sell it to anyone who is already an AT&T Internet customer.
— The newest Internet service is called DSL Direct Basic and costs $19.95. It
can be ordered only through an AT&T call center, but some sales reps say they
have never heard of it.
There are four DSL Direct plans; the $19.95 version is the cheapest and
slowest. The Direct plans are the only ones AT&T will sell consumers without
AT&T landlines.
This type of service is known as "naked DSL."
Each DSL Direct plan costs at least $4 more per month than the same plan for
customers who have AT&T landline phones.
DSL users don't need a phone; Internet service works fine without one.
AT&T is free to charge the higher prices because Internet rates are unregulated.
As for the $10, $15 and $20 Internet plans described above, all are rated at
the same speed: up to 768 Kbps downstream. That's too slow for downloading
movies but may be fine for e-mailing or Internet surfing.
Why charge three prices for the same speed?
AT&T spokesman Andy Shaw says customers have different needs. It's not unusual,
he says, for companies to offer different customers different prices.
AT&T offered $10 DSL reluctantly. The company already was charging higher
prices for Internet service and had no incentive to offer it so cheaply.
As for naked DSL, AT&T wants to sell you as many services as possible:
landline, Internet, cell phone and video. That's called bundling. Naked lets
consumers avoid bundling by choosing only what they want.
But about a year ago, the Federal Communications Commission required AT&T to
offer the lower-cost services in exchange for approving its purchase of
AT&T began quietly offering $10 DSL about midyear on its website. AT&T said it
would not provide a phone number or e-mail address for anyone needing help.
By the end of the year, the company also began offering naked DSL. It is
quickly gaining popularity with the growing number of computer users who have
traded landlines for cells.
The FCC is requiring AT&T to offer a naked DSL plan for less than $20. An AT&T
spokesman said last month that consumers shouldn't sign up for the $19.95
service online or by calling. He told them to go to company stores.
That advice turned out to be wrong, and Savvy received more than a dozen
Mindy Lynn Thomason, a financial analyst from St. Charles, hurried to an AT&T
store, where "they told me I could only sign up by calling."
She called — and reached a sales rep who said he couldn't help her.
This week, AT&T's Shaw offered different advice: He said to sign up for the
$19.95 Direct Basic only through a company call center.
That $19.95 plan is AT&T's cheapest naked DSL service — and the only one for
which the company requires a 12-month contract. The other plans are
AT&T's site says to call 1-800-288-2020 to sign up for its more expensive DSL
Direct plans ($23.99 to $38.99.) We reached a sales rep who said he knew
nothing about any such plans and transferred us to 1-800-264-0002.
As first reported by hearusnow.org on the Consumers Union website, AT&T is
asking callers seeking naked DSL to provide their AT&T landline phone number.
We were asked three times.
But consumers who want naked DSL won't have a landline — and don't want one.
That's why they want naked.
"They want to sell you a phone line," Thomason said after her experience.
She says after nearly a day, she finally connected with a sales rep who signed
her up for AT&T's $28.99 Direct Pro DSL plan. Service started this week, and
she's delighted.
But she chides the company for making it so hard: "They do a good job of hiding
We called AT&T's Shaw, who responded:
"I apologize. We want everyone who calls in to be a customer. The vast majority
of these orders work. Sometimes we make a mistake, and we try to fix it."
firstname.lastname@example.com | 314-340-8347
It's a real chore to find the unbundled DSL price that's advertised, but here is the direct link.
newtodsl, 5 Feb 2008 @ 12:55pm
Re:what kind of additional fees will you have when signing up for the naked dsl? do you have to buy the modem, etc? I am a current ATT landline customer but want to cancel that line and just get the 19.95 naked dsl. plz help!
Anonymous Coward, 4 Feb 2008 @ 5:32pm
ATT ServiceI just looked at my bill. I'm paying $39.95 for "ATT Internet Access Service" for 500 Mb of storage. The plans that I see on the ATT site are all lower priced than this. I don't even know the speed of my service.
ATT never did reimburse me the $200 that I spent for their modem.
Am I continuing to be taken?
Kristina, 5 Jul 2008 @ 7:12pm
Just tried to get $10 DSL.You can only get it online as you have to chat with live person who will direct you to request $10 DSL in the comment section at the end of your order. They only give you an option to get $19 through the whole order. You have to freaking request it in the comment section!!! Which of course I by-passed. UHHHH.
GDI, 15 Aug 2008 @ 10:23pm
DSL ServiceI just found out that AT&T is offering DSL without having to have a phone line. Its called "Direct Connect DSL" and I believe it has 3 prices $35, $40 and $45. The $45 package offers twice the speed of the $40 package so seems like a good deal. I then added T-Mobile's home and phone service for $10 a month for unlimited local and USA long distance calls on that DSL line. Saved me $50 a month on my total DSL/Phone bill combined.
Patty Watson, 13 Oct 2008 @ 4:12pm
$10.00 DSLI have a friend who is now receiving DSL for $10.00 a month.
I am very much wanting this service. What do I need to do
to get this? Please let me hear from you.
Ata Elahi, 2 Jan 2009 @ 5:59am
AT&T DSL speedI signed up for AT&T $10.00 DSL , the down stream speed is 224 kbps not 768 kbps.
dick, 21 Apr 2009 @ 5:26pm
$10.00 dsl at&tI got my $10.00 dsl from AT&T.Boy was it hard to get. On purpose ,I think.I spent hours and hours and they failed to get me set up and so I gave up.
Waited a few weeks and , giving them the benefit of the doubt ,tried again. They set dates to connect then they failed to perform. I finally hired a tech support to help me get it done ,$$$$$. It was like pulling teeth but I finally got it done.
How sad that one of the biggest company in the world operates with such a lack of values or honor.
Values and sense of honor is what made so many of us proud to be Americans.
And oh yes I spent hours and days talking to people in another country being paid American money, wages that will never be Spent or taxed in America.
the money AT&T spends to get customers is shot in the ass when do do get them.
No customer would choose this shabby treatment if there was an alternative.
As Mexico is we are becoming!
olrowdy, 25 Apr 2009 @ 12:08pm
DSL woesAfter jumping from one page to another for several HOURS I finally figured out how to order $10/month DSL. I have my own modem which cost me $5 (craigslist). I repair computers and write software so I could check it out etc.
It took the predicted 10 days for ATT to send a technician to make the actual connection at the box down the street to get DSL to my house. I borrowed an "installation" CD from a friend who has DSL. I didn't receive the installation CD for two weeks AFTER the order was placed (and then only after I requested it again in one of my HELP phone calls).
I am not exaggerating here, it took 4 HOURS (continuous) on the phone trying to get the AT&T server to take the information from my DSL modem to activate the account. (I had logged into my modem and checked that the information was correctly entered into it ready to send to AT&T.
Finally the phone person took the info over the phone and someone had to manually enter the info and my DSL connection was established. (I'm very stubborn and decided to make them get it to work.)
The next day I tried to set up the "AT&T powered by Yahoo" (I had bad feelings about that right away) email account. After entering my password many times on different pages I finally got that working. I then discovered that Yahoo doesn't work with my Thunderbird email client. At first there was an entry on one of the help pages that told you what settings to use for Thunderbird but it lead to a dead page. Later that Icon disappeared.
I tried various methods from websites on internet but Yahoo has apparently counteracted the ways that sometimes used to work.
I called ATT and was transferred all over the world to some people who finally spoke English as their primary language. Most of them that could comprehend what I was trying to do gave me pop and smtp settings that I already knew didn't work. After 4 days of trying, I finally gave up and got a gmail account which works fine.
Next I tried to get to my "personal web page" to move my website to AT&T . After another day of trying to get to the PWP log on page I finally called ATT for help. Another hour on the phone and I finally got step by step instructions as to how to get -TO- the log on page. I wrote the steps down.
I then discovered that they only give you 10 Mb of space. So I put a redirect page on the web page and left.
Yesterday I decided to remove the page and again tried to log into the PWP area. After trying for 1/2 hour to -find- the log in page I again called AT&T. This time it took ONE AND HALF HOURS to finally find a person who;
1. spoke English as their primary language
2. could comprehend what I wanted to do (Apparently it's unheard of to actually want to log into PWP. And to top it off, the ATT help search has NO knowledge of what a personal web page is!)
3. knew what I should do.
That person stepped me through the exact same instructions that I had written down, only to discover that the Icon on one redirect page IS MISSING!!!
I asked him to sign into my AT&T ("powered by Ya-WHO?" ) at his end and guess what? He didn't see the Icon either! That proved that my modem, DSL connection and computer/browser weren't at fault.
He then signed into HIS AT&T account and the Icon is not there either. I then asked him to see if he could SEE my web page. He couldn't find it (neither can I).
So not only do they not give you enough web space to post a real website, I/you can't get to it now. And yes, it was working for several days after I activated the web page.
Now about the rebates ............. I have spoken to three people on my block that have signed up with various AT&T rebate offers over the years. Not ONE of them have gotten their rebates. Most of them gave up after jumping through all the hoops. From what I've been told (on the phone) you have to wait 4 to 6 weeks for the rebate info/offer to appear on another enigmatic AT&T page. And I think I read that you only have a limited time to -apply- for the rebate. Couldn't they just take it off the monthly bill?
Do a Google search on "att rebate complaints" for more info
I must say that the DSL itself does work "up to" 150Kb though. I haven't gotten my first bill yet so it will be interesting to see how much all this aggravation is going to cost me.
My advice .......
1. If you want to use AT&Ts DSL (which works fine) just forget about the "free" email if you use Thunderbird. Get a free email account somewhere else
2. forget the "personal web page", there are (really) free web hosting ISPs that will give you 5 Gb of storage space.
2. if you have to call the ATT help numbers be prepared to stay on the phone for several hours. You may want to have a drink and a sandwich near the phone and make sure you walk the dog first.
I might not get any emails that anyone sends me because Thunderbird can't download them. I thought it was funny when I was trying to get email to work that several ATT help people wanted to send me an email so I could rate their performance in trying to get my email TO WORK! Dhuuuu
Les, 15 May 2009 @ 1:17am
DSL/Dial-up/Net zero/AOL/AT&T so much fun...Wow! A lot of stories here. To those who write, it helps to say which area you are having problems with AT&T as in the State. I end up always working computers at Friend's houses and always contacting Cable or Phone Companies here in CALIF. I find the wait time to be the same regardless. Of course the Postings are old to start with on this page to comment about, but the recent modem, AT&T offers is $30, and it as small as an IPOD. Now with the larger type modems, the size of answering machines, the computer logs in saying 10mps, which is BS, cause the line I was on was only 768kbs (kilobytes/Sec). And the New $30 dollar Modem, shows up on the screen saying 100mbs, which I know is BS too. It is true that I have read recently there is a $10 month/12month offer but As for it being a Naked DSL setup, I didn't see this. I do know this, I asked AT&T, "do I need to have phone service to start DSL?", They said no.. And they said, if I go to the website I can find a better price, and that they aren't allowed to quote the cheaper price over the phone", cheaper than $19.99 That is how he put it
As far as AOL goes on Dial-up, I have heard from people who have AOL, telling me they were going to Cancel, and Aol offered and just gave it to them free. I heard this story a couple of times from different people. As for NET ZERO, I had netzero when it was always free for a short spell, then they changed their "FREE OFFER" to 10 hours. So I really didn't use it. Additionally, what really sucks, is NetZero sent out cards in the mail, as in POST CARDS, to sign up or reactivate your account and they had my password on the card. I was really pissed.. I had to change many passwords online because of them.
Now for all you, I have done research on the web, and those who listed above paying for Dial-up, well, that's a joke.
There are quite a few FREE dial-up places I have found scattered around the US. For those who have Long Distance Flat rate, aka Unlimited, you can call any of these dial-ups and use them. Those that I have found involve no software Installation, not like Netzero or AOL.. Just create a dial up connection, and launch IE.. very nice.
One Such place is in CaliF, Fastfreedialup.com.. I have used it for a year now, and connect from 45 to 50kps.. without forcing a LOCK on the speed. IT's great for backup, the DSL or cable crashes and takes a long time to fix by them. LOL
After tweaking my connecting with CableNut using some provided Online testing and templates, people who watch my connection really don't notice that much of a difference until I have to download a large file.. However, that's no biggy. Like the guy above said, his company has 45mbs, well, I can find that at a nearby city library, which offers 45mbs. My local library offers only 768kbs. A 700mb ISO at 768kbs started to download would take 14hours to download, so the computer said, but the other library with a 45mbs line, downloaded this ISO only in 25mins so I was told by my friend who downloaded for me. I do know this, I download a 5mb file in 5 to 10 seconds at the same library (T3 line/ 45mbs).
And for the the rest of you that don't know, there is no excuse for any slow downloads. A project launch backs years ago, for donated 13,000 miles of Fiber optics wire was created. This Creation is called INTERNET 2. The project was spread amongst the major universities and businesses across the States.. I do know this for a fact. I even visited one such in Cali, and I can say, the downloads were very, very fast. Pages load in about a second. There was no viewing pages while images were still loading. It all came in at once.
Now for the $10 a month deal and having a land line: Yes, they offer $10 a month/768 for new Users, but after my conversation with AT&T and based on our current plan, just $10 more, would get me 3mbs DSL..
What is our plan? Flat Long Distance, 3way calling/Call screening package..
You all cry about AT&T service. I have to deal with MicroSoft and AOL, calling them for people around me, which is worse, cause talking to people in India or Philipines, doesn't get you very far. It was just Last year I called Gateway/Emachines and was surprised I got a US person. Just today, I called Emachines, and thought I called Microsoft..
Soon, you will be calling AT&T and talking to some guy who you can hardly understand his English, and is limited to what he can do for help.
Best time to get a US or CAnadian at MS or AOL, is to call on Saturday. I find most of my calls get someone who grew up speaking english..
Is it me, or do they have One guy in India with Three phones in front of him, one for MS, another for AOL, and the 3rd being Gateway?
My Famous day for troubleshooting an AOL/IE browser problem: I called AOL and explained the problem to the guy from India and he said, "That is not an Aol Problem, that is a Microsoft Problem".
So I call MS, and the guy, who sounded exactly like the same guy said, "That is not a Microsoft problem, that is an AOL Problem."
you tell me............. the same guy or what? LOL
olrowdy, 20 May 2009 @ 9:13am
Reply to .......... Re: DSL/Dial-up/Net zero/AOL/AT&T so much fun...DSL/Dial-up/Net zero/AOL/AT&T so much fun...
by Les - May 15th, 2009 @ 1:17am
Wow! A lot of stories here. To those who write, it helps to say which area you are having problems with AT&T as in the State.
I'm in So. Fla.
As for NET ZERO, I had netzero when it was always free for a short spell, then they changed their "FREE OFFER" to 10 hours.
I still have a free NetZero account as a backup. It is still free for up to 10 hours a month. (Just take out more free accounts if you need more time.) But the phone company has slowed dial up speeds down to ~17Kb so it takes about 5 minutes to load -each- complicated web page!
You all cry about AT&T service. I have to deal with MicroSoft and AOL, calling them for people around me, which is worse, cause talking to people in India or Philipines, doesn't get you very far.
Wait till you try to deal with "AT&T powered by Ya-who?".
Apparently the programmers don't bother to tell the help people what changes they've made. Icons disappear from pages, the help area has no information about certain things. The help section has NO knowledge about "PWP", "personal web page" or "web page".
Yet if you search around long enough or do a google search on "ATT pwp" (or something similar) you will might find the page that does address the problem you have. Most likely it won't -solve- the problem, but it does address it.
Soon, you will be calling AT&T and talking to some guy who you can hardly understand his English, and is limited to what he can do for help.
Cheer up, AT&T has already done that. They are very good when reading from a script to solve your problem. They are also very good when reading from a script that -isn't- related to your problem.
Update on my experiences:
I tried for over a week to find a way to -return- to the PWP FTP server to upload some more pages to my AT&T PWP folder.
Something has changed because I haven't found a way to login back into the AT&T FTP server! I even tried the last resort DOS FTP commands and the server will not accept my password because the server disables all the keys on my keyboard except the [Enter] key. And then the server responds with, "ID or password not valid.". Duu
I then tried using their canned pre-programmed method of creating a website that is supposed to accept html commands. It might take some commands but it chokes on real .html files.
I finally decided to handle the AT&T website the same way I did their email account. I deleted the site and now make believe it was all a bad dream.
Now the run around on the "cash back" is in progress. I don't expect to get that either. But I have found ONE person who actually got their rebate a few years ago. Of course she had to threaten to report them to the state fraud agency but she did get her money.
When I was filling out the order form for DSL, a pop up "chat" window opened and "Jessica" said that I would be getting the $50 cash back information when I "registered" the account. I assumed that meant once the DSL was working and I signed into my account and created a profile etc.
After I created my account etc I searched around for several days and I finally found the cash back/rebate page. I had to call the help phone number (more snacks) because the sign in page wanted my account number that begins with a "0". None of the documentation etc I received has an "account number" listed. My phone number does not start with a "0" either. I forget how I first got in but now I can now get into the page with my normal log on info.
The page originally said that you had to wait a month before any information will appear. I waited a month and now it says you have to wait TWO (more?) months. I think I will stock up on snacks and call the help number again-again-again ... today.
I notice that after 3 hours on the phone with them my right eye starts to twitch like Inspector Clouseau's boss. :-)
I still want to emphasize, the DSL itself works fine and has given me NO problems. But just forget about the extra free stuff they offer.
And my phone bill has only increased the advertised $10/month for the DSL.
Nonie Mouse, 16 Jul 2009 @ 7:00pmYou don't want it anyway. Their system is often not working. You'll be promised free tech support and then they charge you $80 for that.
Gary Vits, 23 Sep 2009 @ 5:36am
AT&T Offers About New Plans & Letting Customer Know.AT&T has cost me thousands of dollars over the years. I am permenetly disabled now. I had my own business for 17 years and used AT$T as my landline, credit calling card and fax number. My bill then ran $850.00-$1,200 per month. When I would have a substantial error on my bill I would call personally instead of my secretary. Each time I did that I would discover a substally better program that was never notified of. That was in the 90's and now the whole package would probably run less than a $100.00. Over those past year AT&T literally robbed me for a small fortune to a small business. When I would discover these change in plans I would ask why I wasn't notified. The consistant answer was I needed to periodically call to discover these plans. AT&T has a very low life rip off policy. I don't have to and won't hide my comment on these policies.
RUTH GOLDBERG, 15 Nov 2009 @ 11:38am
John Chapman, 31 Aug 2010 @ 9:12am
10.00 DSL concessionNo one should be surprised, At&t owns the FCC, not through current payments but thou the routine practice of proving cushy jobs to the (friendly) board members once they retire. Its just deferred compensation, I'm surprised they don't carry it on their books it so endemic. At&T required auto charge to your credit card to get that 10.00 DSL. About a year late (not 30 months) they will quietly raise the charge amount each month until you are paying the full market price. The FCC has already granted merger they are powerless to do anything about it, even if they wanted to. Our congress knows this but does nothing. They are paid off with fat campaign contributions. The electorate can't stop it because they pay both party candidates in the race. The independents are out spent 5 to 1. Our only hope is a revolution, bring back the Guillotine and wipe out a few generations of carpetbaggers not just the CEO's their whole clan. Even in a supposed free society must on occasion clear their pipe of the slag that slows and ultimately prevents equitable distribution of the pie.
herbzman (profile), 2 Feb 2011 @ 1:47pm
$10 DSLWhen I read about $10 DSL from BellSouth(now AT&T), I contacted them and was told it was not being offered. I quoted the newspaper article quoting AT&T CEO about the $10 DSL being offered as a concession to acquiring BellSouth. I contacted someone at AT&T and was finally given the $10 per month rate. The newspaper article said the modem would be free as well but I was charged for the modem but finally got a $75 rebate. A squeaking wheel gets the grease and I did squeak until I got my grease!
The rate has increased to $15 since. The $10 rate was supposed to last for 2 1/2 years or 30 months but today I got a notice that the rate is going to $19.95 per month as of 3-1-11. I have been satisfied with the service.
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Please review your logs and do searches for fixes. If you cannot find a solution, try Build/KDE4/Errors, the IRC channel, and the mailing lists. You can post your detailed issue from Build/Stories.
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RIPTON — Residents in the climes of Ripton and Lincoln have not had to touch their thermostats for several months, but they are already beginning to think about the cold winter ahead — and particularly about their neighbors who might not have the resources to stay warm.
With that in mind, community volunteers are stockpiling wood as a heating fuel source for low-income households. Lincoln is maintaining a "wood bank" for those in need, while Ripton Energy Assistance Program (REAP) supporters are getting ready to erect a shed on town property that will hold around 16 cords.
"We just felt this was something we could do for the people who need it; we would love to see it in all the towns," Warren King, a member of the REAP steering committee, said of the program.
King explained that REAP formed around four years ago, at a time when fuel oil prices were hovering around $4 per gallon. It became clear that some Riptonites would be hard-pressed to pay for enough fuel to last the winter.
So locals with timber and other resources decided to step in. Led by a steering committee, REAP usually attracts 10 to 20 community members to periodic "sawing bees," where they saw and split donated wood. That wood is provided by local landowners, including Middlebury College, which provided timber that was removed to make way for a cross-country skiing trail. The effort also benefited from trees felled a year ago by Tropical Storm Irene.
"We have made it known that we are happy to accept wood," King said.
Once cut and split, the wood at this point is taken by truck to a field owned by one of the steering committee members. Around a dozen cords are kept there at any one time. But that will change soon, thanks to $1,000 in local donations and a $2,500 grant received from the Middlebury-based Vermont Community Foundation. Those combined funds — with another few thousand dollars left to raise — will be used to construct a wood shed that will soon be built on municipal land behind the Ripton firehouse. The new structure will be stick-built using volunteer labor and will be approximately 16 feet by 24 feet, according to King.
REAP officials are optimistic the program will remain strong. The group sends out a postcard donation reminder every fall to each of the town's approximately 220 households. This has allowed REAP to establish a fuel fund, under the auspices of Helping Overcome Poverty's Effects, for Ripton residents who meet federal poverty guidelines. That account currently contains more than $3,000, according to King.
All told, King said REAP helps around a dozen local households per year with wood, fuel oil or propane purchases.
Meanwhile, Lincoln residents are pitching in to keep their neighbors warm when the mercury begins to dive.
A local group is managing a "wood bank" outside of the former town garage off East River Road. It is available for "withdrawals" by people of limited means who find themselves in emergency fuel shortages during the winter.
"It's a huge pile of wood and there are a lot of volunteers helping with it," said Lincoln Town Clerk Sally Ober.
Anyone interested in contributing or helping with these fuel assistance efforts can reach REAP at P.O. Box 100, Ripton, VT 05766, or contact John Howell in Lincoln at 453-5396.
Reporter John Flowers is at [email protected]


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