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Posing for a formal shot are the eleven members of the Career
Festival committee, including Bethel representatives Kay Kern and
Buses Provided
To Career Festival
John Anderson Jack Tierney
the CLARION
Volume MIN= — No. ON Bethel College and Seminary, St. Paul, Minn. Wednesday, March 27, 1957
Senate Elections April 12
The eleven candidates nominated for Student Senate offices will
be presented to the student body in chapel April 5. Elections will be
held one week from that date, April 12, from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m.
Presidential candidates John F. Anderson and Jack Tierney, who
will present their platforms in chapel April 5, submitted the following
statements upon request of the CLARION:
Buses taking Bethel students to
the Career Festival at the St.
Thomas armory will be leaving
Bodien residence at 6:45 p.m. and
8 p.m. tonight, announces Dick
Swanson, who with Kay Kern has
represented Bethel in planning the
One hundred exhibitors repre-sented
major employment fields
such as medicine, teaching, mer-chandising,
social work, engineer-ing,
and accounting and present-ing
displays. The exhibition is
open to the public from 10 a.m. to
6 p.m. on all days (26, 27, and 28)
and will be open until 9 p.m. to-night.
Bethel, one of the six colleges
planning the Career Festival, has
a boom under the supervision of
Nels Stjernstrom, director of pub-lic
relations. Faculty members are
Concluding a meeting of the
Senate with the administration
and cultural council last Thurs-day,
the cultural council with-drew
their ultimatum that they
either have an open forum to air
differences on film policy or they
Moderated by Walfred Peterson,
Senate adviser, the meeting began
with a presentation of administra-tion
film policy; this was follow-ed
by expression of cultural coun-cil
Following Dean Anderson's in-troduction
concerning the general
area of communication, rights and
responsibilities, and authority,
Pres. Lundquist cited the princi-ples
formulated as the beginning
of the year by the council and the
administrative committee. These
concerned the type of films shown,
the posting of explanatory mater-ial
on films, and the purpose of
influencing students away from
the theater.
The president explained the ad-ministration's
reversal of its de-cision
permitting the showing of
"The Bicycle Thief" as follows:
1. The Council stated in their
objectives they would use films
almost exclusively as their means
of promoting culture.
2. The Administration received
the impression that the council
wanted students to learn to choose
good movies. This is contrary to
basic school policy.
3. The film was to be shown
after Founder's week which would
necessitate advertising then.
The cultural council responded
staffing the booth to answer the
visitors' questions.
Dick Swanson, senior, and Kay
Kern, sophomore, who have been
in charge of publicizing the Career
Festival at Bethel, are helping at
the main information booth.
The all school spring carnival
will be held Saturday, March 30,
from 7:30 to 10 p.m. in the field-house.
An admission price of 10
cents will be charged.
Featured at the carnival will be
a Vaudeville tent, a "Ghost Tun-nel",
and opportunities to "Dunk
the Doll" and throw pies at the
heads of faculty members.
Participating in the carnival,
which is being revived this year
by the social council, will be the
four classes and many other or-ganizations
on campus. These or-ganizations
will be sponsoring one
or more booths. Any profits made
will go directly to the sponsor of
the particular enterprise.
"How good a fisherman are
you? Can you guess correctly?
How is your aim? Have you ever
The board of education announ-ces
the acceptance of the resigna-tion
of Dr. Elving Anderson as
dean of students and the appoint-ment
of Mrs. David N. Moberg as
housemother of Edgren residence.
Both changes in personnel will be
effective next fall.
Dr. Anderson, who has been
serving as both chairman of the
department of biological sciences
and part-time dean of students,
states, "I have enjoyed thoroughly
my work in administration, but,
realizing that I can't be wholly
effective in 'two areas, I feel that
I can make my major contribution
in the field of science."
Having been promoted to the
rank of full professor, effective
next fall, Dr. Anderson will con-that
they respected the administra-tion's
decision of change in film
policy, but asked why there had
been no explanation of it.
They protested that the coun-cil
did not stimulate movie-going,
but that this is a general trend
on campus, and that the placing of
introductory material on the bul-letin
board had never been clearly
agreed upon.
The council suggested that it is
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Senate Nominees
Jack Tierney
John F. Anderson
Vice president
Ron Veenker
Bob Reed
Bill Browning
George Dvirnak
Bud Malmsten
Recording secretary
Lynn Weaver
Phyllis Anderson
Corresponding secretary
Marilyn Junker
Betty Nord
been in jail ? Do you like home
baked cookies and candy ? Come
to the carnival and see," says
Jack Tierney, chairman of the so-cial
Eight students from the college
and seminary head up the honor
rolls released last week. Seminary
stur_?erts tr 01)+9' , " A " pirrafrps
are seniors Charles C. Anderson
and Robert D. Erickson. Highest
ranking college students are J.
Robert Carlson, senior; George
Dvirnak, junior; Evan Rogers and
Donald Stolhammer, sophomores;
and Lyla Stimson and John Ty-berg,
Forty-two seminarians maintain-ed
"B" averages. The college "B"
honor roll includes 13 seniors, 21
juniors, 26 sophomores, and 24
tinue his work at Bethel in the
department of biological sciences,
both as chairman and as profes-sor.
At present the board of educa-tion
is looking for someone to fill
the position of dean of students
on a full time basis.
Mrs. David N. Moberg will take
the place of Prof. Walfred Peter-son,
who has served as supervisor
of Edgren residence for the past
six years. Mr. Peterson has been
assigned a full teaching schedule
in the department of history and
political science.
The board of education feels
that, when the dormitory addition
is completed, full time supervisory
leadership will be needed in Ed-gren
residence. President Lund-quist
states that the trend in many
schools is to use housemothers in
men's residences.
Mrs. Moberg is a graduate of
Bethel academy. Recently her son
Roger was a student here. At pre-sent
Mrs. Moberg is superintendent
of Pilgrim Haven, a retirement
home for Northern California Bap-tists,
located in Los Altos.
Mrs. Moberg will also give some
assistance is the student health
Our Student Senate can and
should become stronger and more
valuable as an expression of stu-dent
attitudes. I believe forward
strides can be made if (1) stu-dents
are aware of campus prob-lems
and (2) individual and col-lective
concern is expressed through
proper channels.
All of us are partially respon-sible
for what goes on at Bethel
because each of us is a part of
that collective unit called the
Bethel student body. Our voice is
our Senate. We should be informed
and strive to make it a powerful,
honest expression of our attitudes
and concern.
If elected I will do my utmost
(1) better the coordination of
extra-curricular activities.
(2) strive for a closer relation-ship
between the student body, ad-ministration,
and faculty.
(3) uphold the principles of the
student association constitution.
John Anderson ( Houston,
Minn.), junior, held the office of
class president his freshman year
at Bethel, 1954-55. Since then he
has worked in the Student Senate
as a member of the athletic coun-cil
and social council. This year he
is vice president of the college
In high school John was active
as a class officer and as president
of his church youth group.
Pros. Days Set For
Registration for Prospective
Students Days will begin Monday
night, April 15. This year only
high school seniors and graduates
will attend because of limited fac-ilities.
The three-day program for the
prospective college students will
feature class visitation, a recep-tion,
opportunities to counsel with
members of the faculty, and spe-cial
Free meals will be provided in
the dining hall — the first meal
will be served on Tuesday morning
and the last on Wednesday noon.
To say that in our student acti-vities
we all desire improvements
would not be saying much. But to
present specific ways of improve-ment
would. It is true that in many
areas of our co-curricular pro-gram,
whether it be religious, cul-tural,
social, or athletic, we speak
in generalities. We want things
better. We want more social ev-ents.
We want real culture. We
want more social events. We want
real culture. We want a top-flight
athletic program. We want to im-prove
the religious caliber of the
students. We want all these things,
but we have not acquired them.
Why ? Because we lack effective
communication between you, the
students, and your representatives
in the 'Senate.
It is my purpose to establish
a more efficient and better or-ganized
system of communication
which will produce a more active
and powerful Senate to effecuate
your specific desires. Upon this
basis will be structured next year's
Senate for you.
Jack Tierney (Excelsior, Minn.),
also a junior, has been a senate
member for two years, this year
serving as chairman of the social
council. He is also this year presi-dent
of the B club. Besides being
active in sports (basketball, foot-ball,
and baseball) he has also
served as sophomore class presi-dent
and participated in debate for
two years.
In high school Jack was elected
Senate president his senior year.
Apr. 15-17
Prospective students will stay in
the dorms.
Transportation to and from the
train and bus depots will be pro-vided.
Linden Magnuson, vice president
of the Student Senate, has charge
of the planning for Prospective
Students Days. Committees serv-ing
under him are as follows: reg-istration
and publicity, Lowell
Gardner; housing, Lynn Weaver;
program, Betty Ohlin; class visi-tation
and orientation, Virgil Col-lins;
transportation and business,
Howie Rekstad.
Carnival Held This Sat
Admin. Makes Two Changes
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ALLAN STAHNKE, co-editors
Department Editors: Marjory Peterson,
Marilyn Hagstrom, Jack Tierney, Carol
Christensen and Junetta Best
Business: John Berg and Wayne Henry
Reporters: Elaine Johnson, Ardith Rust,
Ian Patterson, Gay Feiler, Terry Benz,
Sharon Bergstrom, Gerry Wilber, Eloyce
Nelson, Karen Christensen, Carol Chris-tenson,
Betty Ohlin, Betty Nord, Ar-lene
Bergstrom, Vonna Lou Shelton,
and Liz Pander
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the CLARION
Wednesday, March 27, 1957
Edireitiad The Sea Shell
A Few Last Words And The Child
This is the last issue that the 56-'57 CLARION editors will
be responsible for (no encores please), and we don't know whether
we are happy about it or not.
It's been a good year to work on the paper since there has been
plenty of news and editorial material on campus. We have tried to
present the news fairly and without bias, a tricky thing to do when
the subject of the article is controversial.
Our editorials, we hope, have been presented as opinion, our inter-pretation
of the facts. We have tried to deal with the big issues on
campus in a way which will leave no doubt where we stand, if we have
definite feelings about an issue.
We hope we have not dealt with personalities on our opinion page,
and — if we have — it is because of our ineptness rather than our in-tentions.
If we have created problems which would not have otherwise
existed, we have been unsuccessful in our intentions. We dislike witch
But we have tried to clarify issues and study controversies since
it is obvious that a problem cannot be solved until it is recognized
for what it is. We would be slitting our paper's throat if we didn't
look at existing issues, since neither the writer nor the reader is inter-ested
in mythical or dead problems.
We feel that this has been a good policy: to keep the news and
editorials separate and as true and helpful as we can. Again, if we
have failed, it has been because of our lack of ability in executing the
policy, not the policy itself.
On Edgren Switch
Another "unchangeable" was changed last week when it was an-nounced
that Mrs. David Moberg of Los Altos, California, would re-palce
Mr. Walfred Peterson as Edgren supervisor next year. And,
unless Mr. Peterson absolutely refused to continue as he has for the
past six years, we feel a mistake has been made in not attempting to
keep him there, almost at any cost.
It is not that we find fault with the choice of the new dorm
supervisor (although we can't visualize many Edgren men asking a
woman's advice in ticklish matters), but that it is almost inconceivable
that anyone can improve upon Mr. Peterson's ability to control 150 men.
It is unheard of for anyone in the dormitory to remain angry with
Mr. Peterson for longer than about five minutes, even when the pun-ishment
is forced labor (waxing floors etc.). He has not allowed any
unruly action and he has not been overly severe.
Mr. Peterson's sense of humor, good common sense, and obvious
ability will be used solely in the classroom next year. We must con-sole
ourselves with the knowledge that he cannot be a full time super-visor
and teach a full load at the same time.
We know that if Mrs. Moberg comes close to Mr. Peterson in
her management of Edgren next year, she will be a success in that
ticklish job.
Library Personality
by Betty Mattson
Did you know we have a former Bethel girls' basketball coach on
campus ? She is Elsa R. Nordin, assistant library cataloger. Miss Nor-din
was at Bethel academy from 1914 to 1917. After that she went to
library school in Albany, N.Y., where she obtained a degree. She spent
three and one half years working in the Carleton college library. Then
the Minnesota Historical society claimed her services for 3 years,
where she became head cataloger.
After her retirement in 1952, Miss Nordin traveled for 14 months
in Europe, spending the majority of her time in Sweden. She toured
the continent, vsiting Switzerland and Italy. In Sweden much of her
time was spent seeing the sights. She visited the University of Sweden,
the Cathedral, Lapland, and the copper and iron mines. "The iron
mine was seven levels high," said Miss Nordin. "They mine 50,000
tons of 68 per cent pure ore every hour."
Midsummer's Day was the occasion for a Swedish festival. Miss
Nordin witnessed real Swedish folk-dancing and tasted some of those
special Swedish dishes. At Ricksgramsen Miss Nordin took a ski lift
to the top of a mountain to witness the midnight sun. Coming down,
the lift broke! She stood in the lift basket for three and one half hours
36 feet over the nearest ledge. After being rescued from the basket
she had to climb the rest of the way down the mountain. She slid over
wet snow and jumped over a crevice. Quite a feat at 67 years old.
Visits to California, Idaho, and Iowa occupied her time until she
came to work in the Bethel library in 1955. Miss Nordin' with her
quick wit keeps the library assistants jumping.
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(from Chicago Maroon)
He read the textbook,
He studied the notes,
He outlined both.
Then he summarized his outline.
Then outlined his summary on 3x5
Then reduced the card outline to
one single card.
Boiled the card down to one sen-by
Lowell Gardner
Did you ever watch a child
hold a sea shell up to his ear?
It's the roar of the sea," we older
ones tell him. So he holds it there
and listens. We understand his
wonder because we experienced the
same when we were children. He
smiles and looks at us pleased as
if he had discovered something
new, but we know very well that
that sound is not the sea at all.
But as we watch the surprised
child's expressions, we are taken
aback as we see that he isn't
smiling. He's no longer looking at
us, but his gaze is distant and
transparent. What does he hear in
that sea shell ? What does that
little person experience in the hol-low
sound of that piece of shell?
Listening to the sea shell is
much like our first experience of
Christ. As little ones in Him, we
can imagine all the wonders of
His power, all the beauty of His
holiness, all the awe of His mercy.
But as we grow in this new ex-perience,
we become more confi-dent
in ourselves. We can set down
Christianity in our outline. We
know and understand all the steps
in the outline. There is no need
for silly, childish imagination. We
are older and we are practical
It seems to me we could use a
little more listening to the sea
BWA Becomes
Emily's Helper
by Lorraine Eitel
It seems that like the poor, we
always have with us those who
have to be reminded to mind their
manners. That's just what the
BWA is going to do for us this
spring, by means of posters and
signs. They're not going to let us
forget for a minute that we should
not slurp the soup. But during this
withering period of self-improve-ment
it may be comforting to know
that the subject of good manners
isn't something completely new—
in fact, it was our own Swedish
ancestors who set a very amusing
precedent 'way back in the 16th
In order to win friends and in-fluence
people in those days, great-great-
great-grandpa had to follow
a very different set of rules from
those which Emily Post prescribes.
For instance, some of the advice
to them read: "When at the table,
your towel or napkin should be
placed over your left shoulder or
over your arm. Do not seat your-self
at the 'table before first wash-ing
yourself clean and cutting your
nails. Do 'not lick your fingers;
wipe them off on the tablecloth
or napkin. And don't stick your
nose in your glass when you
If they had doors in those days,
they probably didn't present a
problem as to who should open
them, but there was some advice
to the young men: "To blow your
nose with your hat is backwoodsey,
as is also to wipe your nose with
your sleeve. Nor should you blow
your nose with your fingers. Use
your handkerchief and turn away!
If you happen to sneeze in the
company of others, turn away, and
when 'the sneezing is over, tip your
hat, then make the sign of the
cross over your lips and apolo-gize."
To the girls it says: "To appear
sweet and mysterious, the eyes
should be half closed. The eyes of
a genteel lady should be demure,
Practice tuitt Palmer
"We don't need practice. What we need is prayer." We were about
to leave for a gospel team assignment. The leader had failed to ar-range
a practice for the group. Now, since there was so little time
left, he didn't want to waste it practicing.
In this situation were we best expressing our concern and serving
God by praying ? The leader seemed to forget that God expects work
from us if we expect Him to work through us.
A common attitude among Christian groups is that "anything goes
as long as it is blessed by prayer." No matter how shoddy the program
is, if the group is willing and prays, it expects a "blessing from the
According to the book of Malachi God rejects inferior offerings.
He demands the best from His servants.
You bring what has been taken by violence of lame or sick,
and this you bring as your offering! Shall I accept that from
your hand? says the Lord. Cursed be the cheat who has a male
in his flock, and vows it, and yet sacrifices to the Lord what is
blemished; for I am a great King says the Lord of hosts, and
my name is feared among the nations.
When we glibly quote, "And whatsoever you do in word and deed
do all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ," and sing, "Give of your
best to the Master," do we realize the responsibility this places on us?
God demands hard work as well as lip service.
Zettet to de Ederen
•A Good Example?
Dear Editor:
At Bethel this year we had a
record of 147 pints of blood given
for the Red Cross blood drive.
(120 is the highest ever reached
prior to this year.) This isn't a
record on any other campus, only
here at Bethel. The number seems
quite thin to me, especially when
you notice the hundreds of healthy
people walking around the campus.
Many have good excuses; lack
of parental consent, thin blood,
or no blood at all. But what about
that body of people on campus
who have good red blood and need
no parent's signature ?
I'm thinking particularly of the
faculty and the staff, a group of
shy and steady. To be shifty-eyed
or to roll one's eyes would suggest
mental instability."
What do you do with your bones?
Dry bones, steak bones, and fish
bones — what happens to them?
According to this 16th century
code of etiquette, you never, never
throw them under the tables—nor
do you put them on the tablecloth
—they must be placed on the side
of the plate.
And we are all given this gem of
wisdom as a warning: "To talk
with the mouth full is not flatter-ing
nor is it safe!"
Boiled the sentence down to a
Boiled the phrase down to a word.
Entered the exam.
Analyzed the question.
And then,
about fifty people on campus, who
gave four pints of blood. Eight
per-cent is hardly passing, even
by grade school standards.
Half Pint
Creative Writing
Down the street his funeral goes
And the sobs and wails diminish.
He died from drinking shellac they
And he had a lovely finish.
Unto those who talk and talk,
This proverb should appeal,
The steam that blows the whistle,
Will never turn the wheel.
Starting the BWA campaign
early, Joel Bermidez plays the
gentleman for Alice Strandlund
and Karen Christensen.
Co-captains Ken Albright (left) and Jack Tierney pose for a shot
while working out in the gym. As the picture indicates, Albright wants
to be known as "a sticker" while Tierney would just as soon play
8 Lettermen Hopes High
Lead Royals For Cindermen .
Still Water
When the Bethel baseball club
takes the field against the Still-water
Prison team, they will prob-ably
not act the same as at any
other game. All the loving cliches
like "kill the umpire" will not be
uttered, and it is doubtful if the
professional razzers, headed by
Dale Larson and Ken Albright
will have much to say to the op-posing
The instructions of the prison
officials, sent to coach Lundin are
elaborate. The team will be es-corted
at all times. "There is
nothing to worry about," the let-ter
continues, "but it is advisable
to leave all valuable articles out-side
the prison. fl
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Leading the Bethel Royals 1957
Bseball team are co-captains Ken
Albright and Jack Tierney. Ken,
the hard slugging third baseman,
hails from Evergreen Park, Illin-ois,
and is a Sophomore with a
rich baseball heritage. Having fav-orably
impressed the scouts from
major league teams, such as the
Cardinals, White Sox, and Sena-tors,
he was prodded to consider a
baseball career. However, contem-plating
other vocational interests,
Ken entered Bethel.
Jack, a recent resident of Ex-celsior,
Minn., is a Junior. Start-ing
slowly last season with only
one hit out of 14 times at bat, he
caught fire and batted over .350
for the rest of the season. Slated
to patrol the pastures in center-field
will be nothing new to him
since he has played there for the
past two years.
The Royals this year will be
missing the big stick of Don Goss,
hard hitting first baseman who
led the team in batting with a .375
average. However, prospects look
bright with the return of eight
lettermen. The pitching staff will
again be composed of Ed Brun-zell
and Al Stahnke, the key-stone
combination of Dale Larson
and Bob Singleton will be together
again, and John Berg will be in
the outfield for another year.
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Waiting for a dry links are
golfers Bill Conrad, Bill Larson,
Dave Davies, Chuck Elven, and
Joel Stolte. Conrad and Larson are
lettermen on the squad which is
not having any indoor practice, and
they are expected to lead the club
this year.
The tennis team, coached by Mr.
Del Peterson, is practicing in the
gym until the courts are dry en-ough.
Mesko and Sension are the
only returning players on the net
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Bethel and seven other schools
completed plans for the Badger-
Gopher conference it was announ-ced
Monday, March 18, after a
meeting of the schools at Bethel.
Wisconsin members are the Mil-waukee
Institute of technology,
Lakeland of Plymouth, Milton of
Milton, Northland of Ashland,
Northwestern of Watertown, and
the Wisconsin Institute of Tech-nology
at Plattville. Minnesota will
be represented by Bethel and
Northwestern, of Minneapolis.
Championship play will start
with the 1957-58 basketball season
with each team playing at least
eleven games. The league has been
divided into two divisions, North-ern
and Southern. Bethel, North-western
of Mpls., Northland, and
Lakeland are in the Northern, and
the others in the Southern. The
Royals, in accordance with confer-ence
rules, will play each of the
three other teams in their division
twice, and each of the teams in
the other division at least once.
The championship will be awarded
on a strictly percentage basis.
Competition will probably be ex-tended
to football, track, golf, and
tennis when member schools com-plete
present commitments.
Officers of the new conference
are: Mr. Ken Oberburner, Milton
college, president; Mr. Del Peter-son,
Bethel, secretary; and Len
Umnus, Northwestern of Water-town,
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Coach Fritz Fredrickson is work-ing
with the largest Royal track
squad in recent years as a total
of 18 men have turned out for pre-season
workouts. Returning from
last year are veterans Beryl Mun-son,
who runs the middle distance
races; Don Bachman, who runs
the mile; and miler Jim Rein-holdt.
Al Christenson, who lettered
in track before he went into the
service, is also a "known quan-tity."
In recent years, the team has
been of good quality, but short
on quantity, so the prospects with
this large squad, according to
Fritz, should be pretty good.
Most promising new comers are
Jim Jackson who will run the re-lays
and dashes, and Don Becker
who throws the discuss about 140
feet and also runs the 880.
Others getting in shape are John
Reed, Ronnie Olson, Wayne Henry,
Brian Erickson, Roger Olson, Al-bin
Carlson, Wayne Brunzell, Bob
Dow, Stu Luckman, Al Tervonen,
and Wally Shold.
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the CLARION
Wednesday, March 27, 1957
Blood Donors
Set Record
Dr. Priestley Stresses
A new record was established Near East Problems
when Bethel students donated 147
pints of blood last Tuesday, March
19, during the visit of the Red
Cross bloodmobile unit here.
Although the goal of 200 pints
was not reached, Marion Reimer,
school nurse, said, "I was really
pleased." The 147 donations Tues-day
was 27 pints over the former
school record of 120 donations set
during the war.
One hundred sixty-five students
volunteered to give blood but only
147 students were able to donate.
Miss Reimer added, "I would
like to thank all those who helped
with the promotion."
Music Festival
Given By FMF
The Foreign Mission Fellowship
sponsored an International Music
Festival Saturday, Mar. 23. The
FMF was host to 30 foreign stu-dents
who are attending Macal-ester
College, Hamline University
and the University of Minnesota.
There were also guests from the
St. Paul Bible institute and North-western
The first part of the program
was instrumental and vocal music
played on native instruments and
sung in native languages. John
and Jerry Anderson represented
Mexico, playing a cornet duet.
Anders Nisbel sang a Swedish song
accompanying himself on the gui-tar.
Pete Larson was in charge of
the second part of the program.
He led several international games
which represented many customs
and countries.
A purpose of the festival was to
have Bethel students meet and
talk with the foreign students.
The last part of the evening was
devoted to this. During this time
of food and fellowship many for-eign
dishes were introduced, in-cluding
Russian tea, Indian cof-fee,
Swedish rosettes, and foreign
ice cream.
Council Cont.
inconsistent to ban movies in
theaters while condoning similar
movies on television, and also to
ban contemporary and approve
Shakespearian films since both are
shown in neighborhood theaters
and both concern the same issues.
Their withdrawal of the ulti-matum,
the council stated, does
not signify their agreement with
the present administration policy,
but rather their anticipation of a
new policy, now being constructed,
which will be more in agreement
with the council's present policy.
The council also expressed its
plans to take a student census of
opinion concerning movies.
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(in the Plaza) A
Lee Kingsley, Christian educa-tion
director of the Minnesota
Baptist General conference, is
scheduled to speak on opportuni-ties
for Bible school and camp
work open to students during the
summer at a chapel service tenta-
3 Amendments
Are Adopted
The three amendments to the
Bethel Student association consti-tution
and by-laws, voted on by
the student body in chapel last
Friday, have been adopted.
These amendments provide that
(1) the president of the dormitor-ies
(Edgren and Bodien) no longer
occupy a place in the Student Sen-ate,
(2) the office of financial
secretary, now elective, become an
appointed office and no longer
occupy a place in the Student Sen-ate,
and (3) the by-laws of the
constitution be passed by a two-thirds
majority vote of the Senate
rather than a two-thirds majority
vote of the Bethel Student assoc-iation.
A two-thirds majority vote of
the student body was required to
pass these amendments.
Campus Calendar
March 30—All School Carnival
New York Crusade prayer,
11:30 a.m. Sem.
April 4—FMF, 7 p.m., sem. chapel
N.Y. Crusade prayer, 11:30
a.m., Sem.
6—N.Y. Crusade prayer, 11:30
a.m., Sem.
8—Student Wives, 8 p.m., din-ing
8-12—Midquarter exams
11—Baseball, Augsburg (here)
12���Athletic Banquet
13—Baseball, State prison
15-17—Prospective Student Days
16—Baseball, Rover Falls
(afternoon, here)
18-22—Easter vacation
Falcon Heights
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tively set for April 2.
Following the chapel service,
Mr. Kingley will be available to
interview students interested in
working in the Daily Vacation
Bible school and camping pro-grams
sponsored by the Minnesota
Baptist General conference.
"The purpose of the chapel is
to present opportunities for stu-dents
in Christian work this sum-mer,"
Milton Christensen, director
of Christian Service, stated.
Mr. Christensen said that a
change in the procedure for sched-uling
students for work in the
DVBS program this summer has
been made. The Minnesota Bap-tist
General conference will do
the scheduling for the conference
churches in the state. This is an
attempt to spread the work over
the summer because in the past
most DVBS workers are needed
during the same three weeks in
June, he added.
However, there are openings for
work in Bible schools outside the
Minnesota conference churches.
The Christian Service office will
do 'the scheduling for these church-es.
Positions for summer work in
Bible and other camps are also
open to students. Mr. Christensen
requests interested students to see
him in the Christian Service of-fice.
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The nations of the Near East
today have little interest in the
"cold war" between the Western
allies and Russia, Dr. Gerard
Priestly explained to a convoca-tion
audience last Tuesday, pre-facing
his lecture topic, "The
Struggle for Power in the Near
According to Dr. Priestly, Bri-tish-
born lecturer on social sci-
New Counseling
Service Added
Mr. Forrest Vance, who is join-ing
the counseling bureau at the
University of Minnesota this
spring, will be available for coun-seling
in the student affairs office
on Saturday mornings, Dean El-ving
Anderson announced.
The two areas in which Mr.
Vance will be counseling are re-lated
to personal problems, which
includes questions relating to per-sonal,
emotional, and social ad-justment,
and the sphere of voca-tional
Mr. Vance has been a student
at Bethel in both the college and
the seminary.
Mission Doctor
To Speak To SWA
Laura Edwards, missionary from
Assam, India, will be the guest
speaker at the next Student Wives
association meeting to be held on
Monday, April 8, at 8 p.m. in the
dining hall.
Dr. Edwards, who is home on
furlough from Tezpur hospital,
will show slides of the missionary
work at the hospital. Raising
money to send to Tezpur hospital
has been this year's Student Wives
project. Twenty-five dollars was
raised at the recent candy sale for
the hospital.
Election of next year's officers
of the association will also be
held at this meeting. Music will
be provided by Mrs. Bernice Lin-der
and Miss Marilyn Erickson.
Refreshments will be served. All
student wives are urged to attend.
Spire To Complete
Final Copy Mar. 31
Additional effort is now being
made by the Spire staff to con-clude
their work on the final copy
of this year's annual for their
deadline set for March 31.
The number of pages has been
increased from 152 to 160 in this
publication. In order to finance this
increase, extra effort has been ex-erted
toward getting more adver-tisements.
It is expected that the increase
in advertisements will also be en-ough
to help the staff reach their
goal of acquiring enough funds for
the purchase of new equipment.
Co-editor Vivian Johnson listed a
typewriter, paper cutter, and cab-inets
as the equipment most need-ed.
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ences, and world traveler, the
problems behind the present crisis
in the Near East—a crisis of
which Americans were scarcely a-ware
before the presidential elec-tion—
may be approached from sev-eral
angles. But the sweeping
force in this strategically located
area of both historical and con-temporary
importance, the speak-er
felt, is the "fire of nationalism."
Dr. Priestly attributed the rise
in nationalism partly to the col-leges
in the area founded by Chris-tian
missionaries, which helped
the people rediscover their cul-tural
heritage. However, skepti-cal
of the amount of influence of
any religious revival — the Pro-testant
Reformation or the pre-sent
revival of Islam—on poli-tical
trends, he looked to econ-omics
as a major approach.
"If we are ever to solve the
problems of the Near East, we
must think of that area as an
economic unit," he insisted. He
went on to describe the quibbling
over natural resources in the area
in which only five to six per cent
of the land is under cultivation.
The serious over-population prob-lem,
the added, is complicated by
the very large number of refu-gees.
Great imperialists like Napoleon
and Hitler have recognized that
the nation that controls the Medi-terranean
as well as the Baltic
controls the whole penninsula of
Europe, declared Priestly, stress-ing
the importance of the Near
East area to other nations. And
on the security of Western Eur-ope,
he added, the security of the
entire free world largely depends.
The United Nations made a
great mistake in condemning Israel
for invading Egypt, whose im-perialist
ambitions threaten the
very existence of that little state,
according to Priestly. All force
is not evil, he insisted, supporting
what he stated to be the European
view toward the United Nations—
an organ to establish justice and
the concept of law. The popular
United States view, on the other
hand, he observed, is that the Uni-ted
Nations is an instrument to
bring peace to the world.
Concluding his lecture, Dr.
Priestly focused upon four prob-lems
which he believed the United
States and the United Nations
must face "in spite of the Eisen-hower
doctrine:" (1) To end the
Israeli-Egyptian crisis, Nasser
must be compelled to recognize
Israel's right to exist as a free
state. (2) The Christian conscience
of the world needs to be aroused
to what is to happen to the
900,000 Palestinian Arab refugees,
as well as other refugees in the
area. (3) The Suez canal is an
international highway and can
never be allowed to become the
instrument of one nation. (4) Con-trary
to popular belief, we are
confronted today with the physical
presence of the Soviet Union in
the Near East.
The annual spring thaws brought the usual jokes about the Bethel
"lake." However, Jack McNutt and Don Sension illustrated with more
than average vigor that Bethel students will do anything for a laugh.
Kingsley To Speak On
Bible School, Camp Work
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Fox Valley Ice Arena skating director Rockne Brubaker mostly maneuvers around the past while teaching others his craft.
The one-time international pairs figure skater brings more relatable experience than he thinks.
For instance: Even elite athletes struggle. Just ask Brubaker, 28, who clearly recalls fighting his formative skating days in Algonquin.
"I threw about a 10-minute temper tantrum from what my mom told me," Brubaker said, "but then I got up and she said I was pretty much immediately skating all across the ice."
Fluidity remains the eventual goal for any skater, but Brubaker certainly knows there are many stepping stones to get there.
He took the reins of Fox Valley's skate school in March, not far removed from falling short in his qualifying bid for the U.S. team at the 2014 Winter Games in Sochi, Russia.
Fox Valley manager Paul O'Dacre, who encountered Brubaker at Leafs Ice Centre in Dundee in years past, made sure to allow some time to pass before presenting a new opportunity.
"It's been great joining forces and seeing what he has in store for the program," O'Dacre said.
Brubaker organizes classes and events both for basic skills skaters and those with more competitive endeavors in mind, whether in figure skating or hockey.
Spending much of his youth and adulthood in rinks lent itself to meticulous observation, arming Brubaker with plenty of ideas about how to approach his new position.
He begins, naturally, with fundamentals, which sometimes means re-evaluating the technique of those who have skated for months or years. How a skater places his or her weight on the blade effects body positioning, and even a slight tweak can make moving much easier.
"Explaining these things at a young age helps them to understand it earlier on," Brubaker said. "I tell them I know I sound like a broken record, but my goal is to remind them one million, maybe two million times, so maybe one day that light bulb will go off."
There's a wide age range in the beginner's classes, which meet on Tuesday and Thursday evenings during the summer before adding a Saturday component for other seasonal sessions.
Brubaker's students are as young as 3, but there are several adults sprinkled in, many following up on the interest of their own children.
"It's never too late," Brubaker said, referring both to skating and registration. For more information, call him at the arena at 630-845-0132.
As for his own career, Brubaker said he's unsure about his future international pursuits after a handful of misses at Olympic qualifying. He is engaged to Stefania Berton, who was part of Italy's Olympic pairs skating team at Sochi.
In early May, Brubaker, Berton and Brubaker's younger brother, Collin, also a U.S. figure skater, were part of the creative team behind "Blades Beyond the Sea" a figure skating program at Fox Valley.
"I've had some bad luck in competition, but that is life and I've still been lucky in all the other opportunities I've been given," Brubaker said.

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On the cusp of 2013, I've invited 11 of the greater Houston area's top minds to write about something they believe, but cannot prove. A new entry in the 11 for '13 series will be published each morning during the holidays.
Today's mini essay comes from Dr. Thomas Feeley, head of the Institute of Cancer Care Innovation and Division of Anesthesiology and Critical Care at The University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center…
I believe that we can afford to provide high-quality cancer care equally to all Americans and make the scientific advances needed to eliminate the disease if we stop spending money on the wrong things.
Cancer is the second-leading cause of death in Americans and it will likely become number one as our population ages. It's also one of the costliest diseases to treat. We all know our health care delivery system, the most expensive in the world, is facing the same fiscal cliff we hear about every day.
While places like MD Anderson have extraordinary programs to assist patients with difficult economic situations, we all know many patients in America don't have access to state-of-the-art cancer treatment for economic reasons. Similarly, talented scientists with fabulous new tools to develop new treatments are told looming financial constraints threaten our biomedical research infrastructure that has been the world's envy.
In a time of limited resources where will the money come from?
From the money we already spend on health care. In 2010 the National Cancer Institute estimated the cost of treating Americans with cancer exceeded $124 billion. That does not include those who could not access health care. In a 2012 report the Institute of Medicine estimated the health care delivery system wastes over $750 billion annually or approximately 6 times what we currently spend to treat cancer!
Those wasted dollars go to services patients don't need where there is no evidence of benefit. They go to treat costly errors and preventable complications.They are used up in fragmented services and inefficient processes and in excessive administrative costs in the hospital and insurance industries, including Medicare. They are used up when we miss opportunities to prevent disease or detect it earlier.
How do we save money in cancer care? My top three are:
- Better efforts at cancer prevention and early detection could eliminate many cancers and decrease treatment costs.
- Focus on tests and treatments that have proven benefit to cancer patients and not on expensive ones that have little realistic chance of improving lifespan or quality of life.
- Make our care systems more efficient so that patients are treated in a timely, efficient way by those with the greatest expertise.
Difficult problems are difficult to solve but this one needs urgent attention. The solution doesn't come from limiting resources but rather from an intelligent redesign of our health care delivery system in general and our cancer care delivery system in particular. If we do that now we can take care of all Americans with cancer soon and eliminate it as a health problem for future generations.
To see other 11 for '13 entries, click here. And you can click here see entries from the 11 for '11 series that I published a year ago, and here for the 11 for '12 series.


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AUBURN UNIVERSITY – Auburn University officials today unveiled a new design for the Samford Park area at Toomer's Corner during a Celebrate the Tradition event marking the final rolling of the poisoned Auburn Oaks, which will be removed Tuesday.
An arcing path design, set to be implemented in 2014 with the planting of two oak trees, was selected after a series of public workshops and an online survey in which more than 10,000 alumni, students, fans and friends provided opinions and ideas.
"We are unveiling the results of your ideas today," said Bill Stone, Auburn Alumni Association president, who helped unveil an artist's rendering. "I can tell one thing for certain: Live trees will be planted on the corner and the great tradition of rolling the corner will continue."
Auburn University's Office of Campus Planning and Space Management and the architectural firm of Nelson Byrd Woltz/jB+a Landscape Architects led the efforts in gathering ideas and choosing the design.
Officials said the new design will place trees farther back from the intersection; maintain the existing and historic character of the corner; retain the 1917 gates in their current positions; add more seating and shaded areas; and include the planting of additional trees along a curved walkway through Samford Park.
More information is available on the Auburn Oaks website at www.auburn.edu/oaks.
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Despite this, I've discovered from the occasional chat with other building dwellers that our place is the largest size they have. Every third floor (second, fifth, eighth and eleventh levels) has one our size that stretches across the entire length and allows pretty decent views of the Saleve and Jura mountains from both sides. "Plus, you have a maids' door," Anne said to me.
A maid's door?
She's right. Taking care to snap this photo with keys safely in my hand, I'd almost forgotten about our second door. It's the one on the right - closest to the gorgeous matchy-matchy lift door. Nothing but the best of burnt seventies' brown sugar for our external furnishings.
If you've made it this far, you're probably wondering what the point of this entry is, apart from showing you how hideous our doors, floors and tiled walls are and that it might prove best not to visit Guillaime's place until after the cleaner's worked her magic.
Well, I was walking Milly in the Parc de Trembley this morning when I spied what initially looked like a rather cute scene. Mum, dressed in a power suit with a sleek leather briefcase slung across her chest, was sharing a ride on a scooter with her toddler. Bent nearly double, she was gripping the handlebars tight, calling out, "Wheee! Wheeeeee!", using one leg to propel them faster and faster forward. The child was giggling with glee. Sweet, right?
For the first few seconds, yes, until their companion was revealed, coming up behind, huffing and puffing to keep up the pace. Dressed not in workout gear but a rather formal uniform was (presumably) the nanny, forced to run alongside until Mum had reached the enormous UIT building and handed her both the scooter and the child.
The nanny was not giggling with glee, and I sincerely hoped that she was at least paid enough to afford to live in a place of her own.


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I had a friend from high school "friend me" on Facebook years ago. He's a preacher now and even though I'm an atheist I kept him as a friend as I had no problems with him until he started outright attacking atheist. This shouldn't come as a surprise but his most recent post became an attack on me as I know I am his only atheist friend. I unfriended him after this post. Even though I knew he was wrong and I could refute his claims, I just got tired of his hate. I attached his post below, what do you think I should have done:
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I'm glad someone stood up for me. Sometimes I get the feeling I'm alone in my thoughts that atheist don't have to be cocky. They can be thoughtful and humble. Not everyone is a Christopher Hitchens...some of us are Carl Sagans. :)
I'd just tell the guy, if I'm wrong, I'm hell bound but if he's right, he's hell bound too. All that bias, bigoted hate speak is buying him a one way ticket to be your cell mate in the here after. I'd tell him I'm keeping him as a friend so he can have all the chances he wants to either redeem his soul or cast it into hell at his convenience. Then I'd make sure he knows I think he's a self important prick and that his morals aren't so moral after all.
And then unfriend him?
No, he said he'd keep him as a friend.
I "Unfriended" him on FB but not in life. It's hard for me to burn bridges. I see no reason to do so much harm when things should be able to be made right with words and understanding.
The fact that he openly admits he is trying to bait an atheist into a theological debate was his first mistake. In other words, he is the one "throwing the first stone" and should know better. I once posted a re-telling of the parable of the Good Samaritan on facebook in which the Samaritan is charactered as an atheist. It is still there. A pastor friend of mine became irate with me and started posting on my page, and his page theological arguments against atheism, derogatory remarks and jokes about atheists, and just on and even straw-man arguments against atheism. I was floored at his behavior.
It was clear to me that he took the position that my retelling was an assault on the faith, and blasphemy against God. At first I hid his posts from my wall, but eventually got rid of him altogether on my list.
Some people you simply cannot converse with in a normal manner, luckily those are the kind of people that would not waste a breath to show the world how dickish they are. The higher up in the hierarchy, the bigger the douche, pastors/priests are some of the worst offenders.
Good thing I'm not in that profession anymore then. Apparently, I am too reasonable.
Hey Randy, pick your fights. Sometimes you can be really effective and change minds. Other times you're just opening yourself up to a giant pain in the ass.
That's very true. I know I'm not going to convert a priest. I don't have the mental prowess to keep up with all the gobbly-gook they can throw at me. I'm still a young padawan.
I unfriended him after this post.
This is always what I tell people to do. You did the right thing, good for you. People who're intellectually inferior to you of such magnitude shouldn't be on your friends list anyway. Now with a little luck, he'll get cancer and die.
Your sense of humor is hard to get used to.


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Will Tom Izzo scare LeBron James from Cleveland?
Tom Izzo is apparently closer to saying yes to the Cleveland Cavaliers than previously thought, a source told ESPN.com's Andy Katz on Thursday.
"Three weeks ago that wasn't the case, but it has changed,'' said the source.
Izzo is meeting with Cleveland to discuss the team's coaching vacancy on Thursday.
HoopsVibe's Very Quick Call: Right now, Tom Izzo is wrong for the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Izzo is a great college coach. In time, he may defy the NCAA-to-pro curse and develop into a great NBA coach. With LeBron James' pending free agency, now isn't appropriate for the Cavaliers to gamble on a sideline boss who has never coached an NBA game.
Imagine James' position on July 1st when he hits free agency. Think of his choices on the bench: the New York Knicks have former Coach of the Year and Team USA assistant Mike D'Antoni; the New Jersey Nets just landed former Coach of the Year Avery Johnson; the Miami Heat - if need be - will bring Hall of Fame coach Pat Riley out of the executive suite; the Chicago Bulls recently hired defensive guru Tom Thibodeau; and the L.A. Clippers will even let James pick his coach and GM.
With these options available, why would James re-sign with Cleveland and a green Izzo? These two aren't buddies like James and University of Kentucky coach John Calipari. And Izzo, while talented, isn't Duke's Mike Krzyzkewski.
King James wants to win now. A rookie NBA coach, even one with Izzo's resume at Michigan State, may be just enough for him to leave the Cavaliers and sign elsewhere.
Will Izzo scare away LeBron?


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Call Campus Safety first
Campus Safety will:
- take enough information to guide first responders
- send an officer
- dispatch WEMS* when available
- contact and escort city emergency services, when needed
Campus Safety officers and staff provide immediate primary assessment and victim assistance, and carry emergency equipment such as automated external defibrillators. Officers will transport students with non-life threatening illnesses or injuries to the Urgent Care Clinic or to Salem Hospital (one block from campus) and assist the student into the building and with the sign-in process; a friend or helper may accompany the student. Students may call Campus Safety at any hour for a ride back to campus from the Hospital or Urgent Care Clinic. Campus Safety will notify the Office of Housing and Community Life of a hospital transport; Housing and Community Life staff will provide additional support, including a staff person at the hospital if requested.
* Willamette Emergency Medical Service is a licensed student EMS agency in the State of Oregon
Automated External Defibrillator (AED) Locations:
- Atkinson Graduate School (Mudd Building), 2nd floor, west hallway, near water fountain
- Campus Safety Office
- Campus Safety Vehicle
- Ford Hall, 1st floor, on southeast wall near east doors
- Goudy Commons, main dining room, near tray return
- Kaneko Commons: A Wing, just outside the Atrium
- Law School, outside Student Services Center, room 202
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Hmm, of course, we're left with the problem that a normal unshielded human would be able to survive against such an attack, too, since it take destroy paper. Darn it....
The answer is yes. Anyone who tries to claim otherwise, is being disingenuous.
Or maybe everyone is just nice and kind and patient to their opponents? Hmmm....
Oh, stupid me, I totally forgot that one of your many explanations is that everyone is an idiot, deliberately using slow attacks (magic AND mass-based!) all the time! That's our lovable resident genius here ark, here. Naturally, since you're pretty smart, if you were in the series then you wouldn't give people a chance to speak because they'd all be moving like molasses compared to you, ya?
Ah, it's so much fun coming up with baseless theories! I'm really starting to love your modus operandi! You're right; one unified theory is no fun at all. It's much better to come up with 1001 of them!
It's the difference in taking out 6-12 tons of material, vs. several hundred pounds. Anything that can take out 4 tons of material, is going to simply vaporize the smaller, less-dense object. Simple math.
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Writer, Jester, MtG nerd
I hate the tank strength argument. It's strictly disingenuous.
I mean, you;d been making these devil advocate arguments, although interesting, they are more theory than anything. I break a wall with my fist, was the fist strong or the wall weak? Structural damage does not occur in battles because the walls were weak. The walls are strong and their breaking is supposed to show how hard they are being hit. Likewise when they say an HE round can bust a tank it is for an effect that is supposed to say 'this is a damn good weapon ( that didn't work)' otherwise they would not even had said anything! it'd be anticlimatic and meaningless. Speaking of, is there any evidence that the marriages have a sense of humor?
Alright, *i hit you with a spit ball. You block it with another paper* i then say 'That spit ball was strong enough to take out a tank' For what reason does my saying this make my attack sound powerful? Its unrealistic. Try to understand motivation of the speaker's language instead of undermining it into insensibility.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
If we assume the Power of HEAT and HE round is both 1, then the HEAT round with an efficiency of 1 can defeat a tank with a resistance of 1x1=1. A HE round can only defeat a tank with a resistance of 1x0.1 = 0.1.
But 2 or 5, you did manage to get one correct answer: that we should find a pattern. And the simplest pattern is: The BJ simply isn't as good as some think it is. This leaves the problem of what to do with the better instances, and a dual layer system using already established components handles that.
BTW, real disingenuity is to continue to allow your GUESSES about what the Miriage is saying to override the reality fed into your face.
|2010-09-10, 00:32
|Link #1005
Writer, Jester, MtG nerd
As if I never claimed the author doesn't know what he's doing. I stopped posting here because people hated me for pointing that fact out.
How about the HE rounds in Nanohaverse being capable of destroying a tank unlike our own, eh? Your logic.
|2010-09-10, 01:01
|Link #1006
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Edit: Nevermind that. I just realized you're doing what I called you on some time ago, piling speculation on top of speculation and calling the result a conclusion. You assume the Mariage's HE round was of a certain power with no further indications as to whether your assumption was justified or not. Then you further assumed that this would be inadequate to destroy what you consider a tank. Finally, you make a "conclusion" that a defense against this attack was weak because the attack itself was weak. Actually, that's just further speculation.
Last edited by Jimmy C; 2010-09-10 at 05:30.
|2010-09-10, 07:55
|Link #1007
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
The short answer to your question is that the scenario as presented in the soundtrack demanded it.
The long answer goes like this. We are first given the following facts. First, we are told the round is HE, and that it is to be fired from a arm-based howitzer.
Next, we are given the actual sound of the shot and impact (a long delay). We can thus confirm the initial estimate that the shot speed would be low with observation. I hope this settles any objections you have with the speed.
Next, we are told that the shot just fired can kill a tank. The type of tank is not specified. We may wait for the actual damage observation to show up, but in the meantime:
Now, we are actually given a candidate observation of the damage done. I say candidate here because it is in a source that's definitely secondary relative to the main source (SSX soundtrack), and the very previous picture shows that it is probably not meant to be literal. I'm very happy to just ignore it and go on prediction here. Nevertheless, Kaijo ironically shows more enthusiasm than me for taking it literally (if only he can show such enthusiasm regarding other, more-highly canon visuals). Fine.
The candidate observation shows a very low amount of damage (confirming our prediction) on target. Since at Kaijo's insistence I've included it as valid, I'm forced to feed him what the image means. Which is, of course, round destructive power is extremely low.
As for the whole thing about paper mache tanks or firecrackers, they are entirely Kaijo's exaggerated assertions. I do not violently object to them only because he has nevertheless correctly identified, IMO, the author's basic drive on this.
As you can see, every step of the procedure leading up to the conclusion that the rounds are rather weak has its origins in canon. As usual I'm sure some would oppose my ultra-literalist take, but I don't see why a theory that actually uses every piece of available in-zone evidence should be considered inferior to one that uses one piece (the word "tank") to the exclusion of all others, much less be considered a "piling of speculation on speculation".
I am hurt, and puzzled.
|2010-09-10, 10:26
|Link #1008
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2007
Similarly, it doesn't matter how fast or slow a high explosive round was going. If the detonation of the explosive charge is adequate to destroy a tank, does it make any difference if it's going at 10m/s or 50m/s? You assumed that the speed of the round mattered, it doesn't.
You also assumed that the charge in the round fired was "light," too light to damage what you consider a "true tank." This time, you feel you have justification from the following:
Without that, you're simply disregarding the alternative that weakens your position. You assumed that the explosive used was weak, I assumed Subaru's defenses were strong. Once again, we're both making assumptions that best help our position.
And just in case you try to argue that the round fired cannot contain much explosive material (even though I already point out you cannot state the cannon didn't have a bigger diameter than the arm) I want to ask, do you know exactly how much more efficient was the explosive material the Mariage used compared to contemporary Earth ones? It could be better, could be lots better. You can no more prove that isn't the case than I can prove it is. In the end, you're simply assuming that it isn't while I'm assuming that it is. Once again, we're both making assumptions that best help our position.
This entire farce is due to you arguing from assumptions that best help your position while disregarding those that strengthen your opposition's. I'm not interested in making you change your position. I just refuse to let you carry on thinking that it's based on anything stronger than unprovable assumptions.
|2010-09-10, 10:29
|Link #1009
A HEAT round needs a power of 1 to destroy a tank.
An HE round needs a power of 10 to destroy a tank.
Thus, the HE round has a larger destructive capacity, ie, it will make a bigger boom. Place a bomb next to a concrete block the same size as you, and then stand next to the bomb. When it blows up, odds are the block will fare better than you. In order to make the mariage's words true, the blast would have to be big enough to take out the block, so it would need to be much bigger, ie, more powerful. And any such blast that could take out a concrete block, wouldn't leave much of you left over.
The real problem is exactly what Jimmy said; you're speculating. You're making up things in order to make your pet theory work. You're taking things and trying to jam them around your pre-conceived notion. That's not how science works. You take what we know and use that to form the most likely answer.
What the mariage fired can destroy a tank. That requires a fairly large explosion. Any such explosion that would consume a heavily armored target like a tank, would completely vaporize any smaller unarmored target.
That's what we call facts.
Also, you're forgetting that Earth has nothing like the mariage, so even trying to guess a maximum or minimum for its power level is a fool's errand. They are clearly more highly advanced than anything we have, so it's highly likely that they could compensate easily for any recoil or size of shell via any number of advanced methods. Since it's audio only, we can't say.
So again, trying to cram the mariage into your little box is a fool's errand.
So, how do you rationalize this away again?
But you're still being disingenuous by not acknowledging the unified theory. Everytime a BJ was destroyed by a non-magic attack, it was either due to the target being weakened in some manner already, or a more powerful attack than the target.
That one explanation covers everything. Whereas you continue to want to see the BJ/AB as something so incredibly weak, it'll break and fall apart when someone moves, despite the fact that it's managed to save the lives of numerous mages who have taken kinetic impacts. As was pointed out, Nanoha and Fate smashing into buildings. If an insect's wing can rip a BJ, then there is no way they should have been able to survive those impacts. Even older Nanoha shouldn't have survived being slammed into several walls by Vivio.
Your love of physics says that's impossible.
And any explosion that could do that to tanks, would render any normal humanoid-sized figure into mush. At the least, it would strip Subaru naked by burning away her paper mache BJ (if we go by your theory that it's fairly weak). Even if it's non-flammable, the sheer force of the blast would tear it to shreds.
The problem with all your intellectual masturbation over possible shell size, cannon size, etc. is that we're still dealing with a very advanced piece of technology: the mariage. Your figures really aren't relevant because they can easily have access to shells of the same size, but greater destructive power. So even a 15mm cannon can pack more explosive force than our Earth weapons., thus you really need to stop trying to show off how much you know about Earth military technology, because the analogies don't hold. The only thing we know is that a mariage could take out a tank with an HE shell fired by turning it's arm into a howitzer.
The alternate explanation you are trying to avoid, is that it means the mariage has access to higher technology than Earth, and thus Earth weapons and a mariage's weapons aren't comparable at all.
The reality is that Subaru's BJ survived an HE shot that the technological-advanced weapon of destruction calculated could take out a technological-advanced Belkan tank. No amount of speculation or twisting of reality by you will override that fact.
But we will continue to derive enjoyment from watching you try. So please, keep at it. We're having a lot of fun with this. =)
|2010-09-10, 12:08
|Link #1010
Truth Martyr
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork.
Age: 33
Regards to sizes:
I want to point out that the Panzerfaust 3 and RPG-29 can have warheads ranging from 60mm to 90mm caliber - a tad bigger than ark's guesstimated size, but still fairly smallish.
I'd also like to point out that the original Panzerfaust was utilised in like manner to the Marriage's weapon; in this case instead of the user holding the tube, the tube is built-in.
I'd also like to point out that the Panzerfaust was capable of killing tanks of its era, and that it had a fairly small warhead - the shaped charge was only 800 grams, the rest of the weight of the weapon being propellant, casing, etc; and had a speed of 45m/s. Which meant that for ranges in excess of 45 meters it would take several seconds to travel the distance (admittedly it lacked sufficient propellant to do so - typical engagement being either point blank ambush or from about 60 meters).
So a weapon taking several seconds to hit? Doesn't nescessarily mean anything.
Also, regards HE and HEAT:
Using HE as a catchall term isn't accurate as there are various means of using high explosives to defeat armor. High Explosive Anti Tank is the most common: essentially a warhead that when it detonates, forces a jet stream of metal to punch through armor.
The point about HEAT rounds being less effective on living bodies is probably due to the fact that a human body won't have enough resistance for the warhead to make contact and detonate - it'll just go through the body.
High Explosive Squash Head is a bit different: it uses thin metal shells filled with explosives and a delayed action fuse. The warhead hits the target, the explosive is squashed against the surface, and then the fuze detonates, resulting in transmission of a shockwave through the outer surface and through the tank.
What that means is that the outer armor remains mostly intact but a shockwave is transmitted through the armor along with spalling, causing damage and killing the crew inside the vehicle.
What's pertinent to this discussion? HESH rounds are fired at lower velocities to maximise the amount of explosive sticking in on point, rather than being dispersed from a high velocity impact.
Generally speaking though, using both types of weapon on a human body, it's debatable as to whether the human body would be able to set off the triggers. Though as with the .50cal Raufoss HE/API round, even if the explosive isn't triggered, you've just been hit with a large warhead - the explosion is the least of your worries.
|2010-09-10, 21:48
|Link #1011
Random Translator
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: New Brunswick
... I have a question, have you considered that Subaru might have cast a barrier type magic off scene as she plunged into the flames? I mean, recall that Erio had to reinforce his Barrier Jacket in SSX to better endure the intense heat of the flames as he fought the Mariage.
Now, what prevents Subaru from using further magic for better protection? Not only is she in a dangerous situation where the very walls and ceilings could collapse on her, but also fire and electrocution risks as well. Not only that, she knows that the Mariage are crawling all over the place....
I don't know guys but you know, there is a chance she decided to double up on protection. She even set up a small barrier to better protect Ixpellia from getting hit but shrapnel/damage.
I was just reading the Japanese Nanohawiki and came across an entire list of protection and shield magic.
# バリアタイプ
* プロテクション(Protection)
* ワイドエリアプロテクション(Wide Area Protection)
* ライトニングプロテクション(Lightning Protection)
* プロテクション・パワード(Protection Powered)
* バリアバースト(Barrier Burst)
* ディフェンサー(Defensor)
* ディフェンサープラス(Defensor Plus)
* サークルプロテクション(Circle Protection)
* スフィアプロテクション(Sphere Protection)
* 防御魔法
* ホイールプロテクション(Wheel Protection)
# シールドタイプ
* ラウンドシールド(Round Shield)
|2010-09-10, 22:14
|Link #1012
Also, the auto-barrier and barrier jacket are passive defenses, always on. The other spells need to be cast to be active, and most mages only cast those when there is a direct need, and cancel it as soon as possible afterward. Subaru only shielded Ix to protect her while she fought the Mariage leader, and if such a thing was deliberately done, we probably would have seen any spells Subaru cast on herself.
We can make guesses all day long, but the truth is that it all comes down to what we know for sure. Unless told otherwise, we pretty much have to take things at face value. As long as there is no contradiction, then there really shouldn't be a problem.
|2010-09-11, 06:48
|Link #1014
Adeptus Animus
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 31
So if both Erio and Subaru switched to their most powerful Jackets, it's very likely Subaru's defenses would outclass Erio's, since hers were designed with armor in mind.
|2010-09-11, 08:13
|Link #1016
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
|2010-09-15, 20:24
|Link #1019
I am no one
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Inside your head
Even in the earlier operation in StrikerS, we can see that Erio's getting his ass handed by a giant drone, in a FREAKING train (I suppose it's an armored train, therefore has thick armor). Keep in mind that this is ERIO, a speedster with low protection.
It's no wonder heavy-class barrier jacket like that one worn by Subaru can soak antitank damage when light-class jacket owned by Erio can breaching through a thick metal plate while getting his ass kicked.
|2010-09-15, 20:40
|Link #1020
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Barrier Jackets are hardcore protection. Do not be fooled by their appearances. These things keep some rather squishy mages from being splattered by forces that SHOULD reduce a human to a smear on the concrete. I don't know who invented and standardized the concept; this mixing of various protective magics into an easily-summonable and wearable form; but they probably deserved some sort of award for it.
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Are there other issues that I should not agree to by way of stip?
Similarly, a GAL should not agree to: removing pet or not allowing a family member to remain in the apartment by way of stip. Although a GAL may make a recommendation to the Judge, all these issues should go before the Court.
Is the ward entitled to obtain an attorney?
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Whose responsibility is it to seek a One Shot Deal, the GAL's or the APS caseworker's?
If the case is known to APS, it is the responsibility of the APS caseworker to apply for a One Shot Deal. However, APS caseworkers will often seek the help of a GAL in trying to secure the documents necessary to ensure that the grant is awarded. So, it is important that the GAL and caseworker work as a team.
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If a Judge denies your request to be relieved from a case, you must remain on the case and see it to resolution. The Deputy Chief Administrative Judge's Office cannot make the relevant Judge decide otherwise.
If I wish to be relieved, can I just send the Judge a letter or leave them a voice mail? No. It is important that you appear in Court and make the request in person. You can either wait for the next court date or request an Order to Show Cause (OSC), that would enable you to make the request on a specified date.
Questions about receiving payment for cases:
Under what circumstances should I expect to receive payment for my work on a GAL case?
The Human Resources Administration (HRA) agrees to compensate GALs pursuant to a Court order when HRA petitions the Court for the appointment of a GAL for an APS client. Compensation is also rendered when the Court makes a sua sponte appointment for a tenant who is an existing APS client or later becomes an APS client during the course of the Housing Court proceeding.
Cases where APS is not involved are considered pro-bono and, as such, receive no compensation. For more information on how to secure payment, click on Payment Procedure and Forms.
What should I do if I have not received payment for services rendered as a GAL, even though I submitted all the necessary paperwork quite some time ago?
If you have been waiting for payment for more than a month, you should contact HRA's Office of Legal Affairs at (212) 331-5032 for an update on the processing of your submission.
Questions regarding indemnification
What happens if a ward sues me?
In general, you are entitled to defense and indemnification by the State of New York if a ward sues you while acting as a GAL.
The State of New York, Office of the Attorney General issued a Formal Opinion Letter providing for defense and indemnification of New York City Civil Court, Housing Part GALs who are sued by a ward in a case where the GAL received no compensation.
Compensated GALs are also entitled to defense and indemnification by the State of New York, should a ward ever sue them, as per Public Officers Law Section 17 (1) (w).
In sum, the duty to defend and indemnify is contingent upon certain conditions being met including providing the Attorney General with the summons, complaint, process, notice, demand or pleading within 5 days of service and the GAL's full cooperation. Moreover, the alleged act or omission must have reportedly occurred while the GAL was acting within the scope of his or her duties.
For more details on how to proceed and what to expect should a ward sue, please read Public Officers Law Section 17 in its entirety or contact the GAL Program Coordinator at 646-386-5408.


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Check the Mana cost of healing a low rank spell... it's the same as high rank! basically the priest has now only got flash heal and greater heal.
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OmniCC - Cooldown counter on button bars
Bartender4 - Bar mod
Parrot - Better than SCT (Scrolling combat text)
Minimalist - Auto loot, auto skip shit gossips, auto sell greys, lots of auto options
Broker mods - Fubar is dead and a massive memory hog.
Itemrack - For changing gear quickly when someone jumps me with my fishing rod on.
Postal - mail mod that does everything
Grid - Raid layout, fully changable to show anything (incoming heals, debuffs, buffs)
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Okay girls, here's a beauty sneak peek for you straight from NYFW.
Designer Oscar de la Renta is set to show his fall 2013 wares at 6:30 pm tonight. And while we can't share with you what his collection is going to look like (we know, sorry!), we can give you a preview of the nail colors that will be used on the models' hands for his big reveal.
These new limited-edition shades (shown left)—Asphalt, an edgy yet sophisticated charcoal grey with shimmer; Dare, an island-inspired teal; and Covet, a rich mulberry color that dries velvety—were inspired by Oscar de la Renta's fall collection and were mixed up specifically for the runway—and of course, you!
As of now, the three polishes can be pre-ordered (!!) at oscardelarenta.com for $22 each. Don't wait to scoop them up because they're going to fly off the dot-com fast.
Come tomorrow, they'll be on sale, but we can't be sure how many will still be available.
Our advice: Get your pretty little hands on these lovely lacquers before you find yourself bidding away for a bottle on eBay.
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We're sure you already know, but B.o.B is on Instagram. Also, there's been a lot of news lately, so we wanted to reinstate "Strange Clouds" is coming May 1st. There's a whole countdown here, so mark your calendars.
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– Tonight's WWE RAW takes place from the Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio. No part-time stars such as The Undertaker, Triple H, Brock Lesnar or Chris Jericho are advertised for tonight. CM Punk is also off the listings for tonight's show.
The main event for tonight is scheduled to be Ryback and John Cena vs. The Shield in a handicap match but it remains to be seen if Cena will be able to wrestle after being injured on the recent WWE tour overseas. Cena has confirmed he will be at RAW and will address the injury. Cena and Alberto Del Rio vs. Ryback and Dolph Ziggler is advertised locally.
WWE is focusing on the following points for tonight's show:
* Can The Shield be stopped?
* A new Divas Champion in AJ Lee on the horizon?
* No love lost between Ziggler, Swagger and Del Rio
* What will Fandango's next move be for Chris Jericho?
* How severe is Cena's injury?