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Cornice Installation Tips
- From our expert installation team
Many people think that cornice is very difficult to install. Others think it very simple because they saw the guy on T.V. do it in half an hour. The truth is cornice can be done by the do it yourselfer, with the right tools and a little bit of patience. Please be aware that this guide is meant for the first time installer, so some of the terminology and things that come as second nature to professionals will be explained thoroughly. There are many schools of thought when it comes to installing cornice; this guide will teach you the method our installers use. It's not to say that the other ways are wrong but we find that this method works very well for us. One of the advantages of MDF mouldings, unlike plaster, is that the walls and furniture do not have to be covered or draped. If your house is under construction, the cutting can be done anywhere. If however you are living in the house, we ALWAYS cut our wood outside, in the garage. The fine MDF dust would otherwise take days to completely vacuum out. First we have to look for a large open floor area to cut; normally the garage. Our cornice comes in 12, and 14 foot lengths; look for an area where you will be able to cut lengths of that size. All cutting is done on the floor using a Compound Miter Saw with a 10 inch draw. The draw is the distance the saw arm can cut in one pull. Although the cornice comes in various widths up to 7 inches, the width of the cornice increases in direct correlation with the angle of the miter.
Start by measuring the walls that are going to be finished. Measure as accurately as possible down to the closest 16th of an inch. Make sure you note the Inside and Outside Corners. To explain inside and outside corners, imagine a perfect square, if you are standing inside the square, you will only see inside corners. If you walk around the outside of the square all you will see is outside corners. Before we begin cutting we must determine the correct angle using an Angle Finder. A perfect 90 degree angle should never be assumed, what looks like a 90 degree angle may be off slightly. If the two joining cornices are not a tight fit, the glue will not adhere well. Once the angle is determined use our Cutting Chart to set the compound miter saw in order to get a nice tight corner.
There is some prep work required, remove anything hanging on the walls, and clear everything approximately 30 inches from the wall in order for the ladders to fit. Your ceiling may have a stucco finish, do not concern yourself; the stucco doesn't need to be removed. Once you start to pin the cornice up on the ceiling you'll find that the stucco breaks off. The little gap that is visible will easily be covered by the paintable able latex caulking that will be applied later. Using the Angle Finder and our Cutting Chart you should be able to set the Bevel and Miter angles required to make the proper corner. We normally recommend that you make yourself small inside corner and outside corner samples before you begin cutting into the long lengths that will be installed. This should allow you to visualize what each corner will look like before cutting. Now that we've cut a few pieces, it's time to pin them up in place. We will require a Compressor and a Pneumatic Finishing Nail Gun. The reason for the nail gun is simple, when set properly; the nail gun automatically counter sinks the nail heads about an inch into the cornice. This allows for an easier time when finishing (we'll get to that later). We normally have the compressor set to between 98 and 110 psi. Installers, who have never worked with MDF before, should test and adjust the air pressure as needed for their specific equipment. We find the best fasteners for the job are 15 - 18 gauge brad and pin nails approximately 1 to 2 inches in length.
We apply a pair of nails on both the top and the bottom of the cornice every 12- 16 inches in an "X" pattern. The "X" ensures that even if a joist wasn't caught with a nail the cornice will not fall down because the "X" creates a fastener in the drywall. The placement of the nail on the face of the cornice plays an important part in the installation.
If you look at the back of the cornice, you will notice that there are three flat sides to it. The two small angles are the parts that touch the wall and the ceiling. These two angles run along the entire length of the cornice and these are the two areas you should be aiming for when you begin nailing. You should always try to place the nail gun so that the nail head is hidden into a crease on the face of the cornice. Although the nail head is countersunk, the hole is visible sometimes even after we cover it and sand it, whereas in a crease, it disappears.
All corners should be glued using MDF Glue or MitreBond which can be picked up at any of the large box stores. We don't use either white or yellow wood working glue because both of these glues remain slightly flexible, even when they are fully cured. That means that in time they will allow the MDF wood fibers to slip a bit. Manufacturers call this "creep". The solution is to use glues that will cure rock hard. Another thing to consider is that MDF is far more fibrous than solid wood and so using water-based glues will cause "swelling" at the joints. MitreBond is a very thin solvent based glue which results in a virtually invisible seam.
Making an Invisible Solid Joint Like a Pro
Joints are a little different than corners. Joints happen when you have a straight wall that's longer than the available lengths. There is a process that goes along with it in order for the joint not to come apart. If a wall is 16 feet long, we will cut one piece 5 feet and one piece 11 feet. Never cut the wall into two halves, peoples eyes are always drawn to the middle of the wall and so any imperfections will be visible. Do not use a straight cut to join the two pieces. Cut the two ends at 30 degrees to ensure a tight fit and to allow for a larger glue surface. Find a block of wood that is approximately 8 inches in length and narrower than the cornice. Glue this piece to the end that is being joined, ensuring half of it is sticking out at the end in order for the next piece of cornice to be joined to it. Nail this piece of wood in from the front of the cornice. By both nailing and gluing, you ensure that this piece will never move.
Next, install the length with the block attached, to the wall. Add a little glue to the face of the block and install the next length just as you normally would. After ensuring a tight fit, add a few nails to ensure the two lengths don't come apart.
Don't Take Chances
All wood, including MDF shrinks a little. To minimize the effect of this shrinkage, which causes unsightly cracks, Elite Mouldings installers use a specially formulated MDF Glue, exclusive to us, on all our joints. This virtually eliminates service repairs due to shrinkage In addition, to avoid joints in the seams (which may not show up for up six mouths, we glue a back brace (see photo) behind ALL our seams. Bracing the back also allows us to make seams disappear. Do not paint the cornice before you install it, you will have to paint it again anyways after all the sanding is done
The Right Glue is Everything
Another thing to consider is that MDF is far more fibrous that solid wood and using water-based glues tends to cause "swelling" at the joints. The solvent base glues do not swell up the joints, allowing a virtually invisible seam just one more benefit on using the right glue. After having nailed up all the lengths, we are ready to start the finishing of the installation. We use a paint able latex caulking to caulk the cornice to the ceiling and the wall. Apply a generous amount to all seams, when the caulking dries it tends to sink inwards. Go over the freshly caulked seams with your finger in order to get rid of excess caulking.
Making an Invisible Joint Like a Pro
With a sharp cut and glue, no sanding is necessary! All machinery used to machine wood will become more efficient when used properly. When it comes to making clean, glass like cuts, a sharp chopsaw blade is in order.
As seen in the illustration above, with a sharp cut, there no sanding required. Seams are truly seamless. Three things contribute to a seamless joint:
- Back bracing the cornice for a tight fit (as describe earlier)
- Cut at a 30-degree angle to increase the surface area, 45 degrees would be too sharp a corner and flake off leaving a gagged edge.
- A sharp blade, our installers sharpen there chopsaw blades once or twice week
With the above three principles employed, simply re-priming the joint is all that is required. Sharpening your tools produces a cut that is not torn out and products edges that are not burnt or burnished. A sharp tool provide for a safer worksite and helps to produce a higher quality product. A sharp tool is common thread that joins every tool used in the woodshop. The best finish is produced with a sharp tool and worst finish is produced using dull tools. Sharp tooling is also much safer. Sharp saws will offer less resistance to operator effort, making it easier to process parts for longer periods of time. By exploring these concepts further, one only needs to operate a dull chop saw vs. one with a sharp saw to illustrate this point. Assuming the correct sawblade is utilized for both, a dull saw will make smoke, tear edges and corners, cause inaccurate dimensioning, and slow down the feed rate requiring more pressure to make the final cut. A sharp tool is less prone to kickbacks due to the easy cutting and the reduced back pressure created by the cutting edge.
The use of woodworking machinery and its tooling comes with many inherent risks. Every woodworker should always familiarize themselves with company safety policies. There is no way any course can prevent accidents. Only your skills as an operator and the use of safe practices can prevent accidents. Only work on a safe machine, utilize all guards and personal protective equipment, and do not bypass and interlocks engineered for your protection.
Do not use the same caulking to fill in nail holes, corners or joint seams.
The nail holes, or pin holes, should be sealed and filled with a Spackling Compound. Spackling is a plaster like material that is applied wet and is allowed to dry before being sanded off. It should also be applied generously. A fine (200 grit) sandpaper should be used to sand down the spackling in order to get a smooth finish. The nail holes can easily be filled with a finger and do not need to be sanded. If you use latex dap or caulking for filling in nail holes, you may find that the material will shrink and upon close inspection, will be noticeable.
TIP: We suggest you meticulously dap where the crown meets the ceiling and walls. Secondly would be all inside and outside corners as well as butt joints (where two pieces are joined together).
Now Your Ready to Paint!
Your cornice is now installed and ready to be painted. If you are thinking of painting the house please do yourself a favor and install the cornice first before you paint. Any professional painter will tell you it is easier and faster to paint the cornice before the walls. To achieve a plaster finish, we suggest a flat white or at most an eggshell paint. Flat paints tend to hide imperfections better than a gloss or a semi gloss, which tends to show the brushstrokes. Although we have seen cornice painted every color in the rainbow, to recreate the look of plaster which is traditionally a flat white. As a rule of thumb we suggest a glossy or semi gloss paint for baseboards, chair rails, door and window casings and other trim you or the kids can touch. The trims installed lower will need more cleaning than the cornice


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This editorial was sent to me by a fan. It is an opinion piece from CNN. As can be expected in the aftermath of any shooting that grabs headlines, two things are going to happen. 1. Liberals will knee jerk try to pin it on the right. 2. They'll start bleating for more gun control. We got #1 when ABC news was trying to blame this on the Tea Party before the blood had even dried, and of course when that came back as untrue, just like it did with the Giffords shooting, they went right into #2.
Come on. Seriously news media? And there are still a handful of people out there who think that you guys are unbiased? They must sleep in helmets.
So as expected, the news is ignoring reality in favor of their typical happy bubble world. The media is busy butchering facts to fit their narrative. Anybody who is really knowledgeable about any particular topic has seen this before. Whenever I see a report about a topic I'm an expert on, it is usually crap. Or as Michael Crichton said:
"Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know."
And now we've got an opinion piece from CNN, where if you know anything about the topic, it is obvious the author is huffing paint, but if you're not up on the subject, it may sound convincing.
I'd like to explain how it is not. Original article is here. http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/23/opinion/webster-aurora-shooter/index.html?iref=obnetwork
The article was written by Daniel Webster, who is a college professor who runs an anti-gun "policy and research" center, my responses are in bold. And for the record, I am a former concealed weapons instructor, former gun store owner, have written for gun magazines, have participated in a whole lot of classes on this subject both as a student and as an instructor, and have testified before state legislatures on the issue of mass shootings. Basically for a period of about five years I professionally soaked up every single piece of information I possibly could on this subject, taught people how to deal with it, went through a bunch of training and have even played the bad guy in scenario training. (I make a great villain) To say that I've thought about this topic quite a bit would be an understatement.
(CNN) — Scenes from the mass shooting in an Aurora, Colorado, movie theater are horrific, but are all too familiar in the United States.
Some have argued that gun control is irrelevant to mass shootings because the perpetrators are typically so determined that they will overcome any legal hurdle to acquiring firearms. However, mass murderers often use assault weapons or guns with large ammunition capacity.
Let's think about this, because this is going to come up a lot in the anti-gun thought process. Webster points out my side's argument and then quickly dismisses it, like "oh, you silly gun nuts, crazy murderers will totally be thwarted by the same laws as law abiding citizens".
Just last year, Anders Breivik shot 69 people in Norway, a country with gun control far stricter than America. (he also blew 8 people up with bombs, but I'll come back to that later). In 2008, a group of terrorists completely shut down the city of Mumbai by going on an epic shooting spree. More than 300 casualties. India has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world (and in fact, has no "gun culture" to speak of, which led directly to their disastrous police response, but I'll come back to that too).
The thing about all gun laws, and you really need to get this through you head, is that criminals don't give a shit.
One of the guns James Eagan Holmes allegedly used to shoot 70 people within minutes was an assault rifle with a 100-round drum magazine. This extraordinary firepower enables gunmen to kill and wound more victims than they otherwise could if they used weapons that held fewer bullets.
There are a few problems here, and I'll try to take them in order.
First off, the term "assault rifle" in this context means whatever the media needs it to mean. In actual gun nut parlance, an assault rifle is an intermediate power small arm capable of full auto fire. Which this was not, but to the media, any gun that is vaguely scary looking is an assault weapon. So if you've got a Honda Civic it is a car, but if you put a spoiler on a Honda Civic it is now a race car. No. It is still a Honda Civic. Words mean things.
Second off, as we saw during the Clinton years, what they really want to ban is what is actually known as a detachable magazine fed semi-automatic. Semi-automatic means that for each pull of the trigger, the action cycles itself because of recoil or gas pressure, and feeds a new round into the firing position. A magazine is the thing that holds the ammunition.
Here is the thing. We banned high capacity magazines once before. It did nothing. Absolutely nothing. For ten years. The only difference it made was that the law abiding now had defensive guns that held fewer shots than was intended, and once again, criminals simply did not give a shit.
So he had a hundred round mag… (which malfunctioned, because they don't work that well). Normally a rifle like that would have a 30 round mag. However, somebody who is completely fumble fingered and totally inept can change a magazine in a few seconds. Somebody who has practiced can do it in two. Somebody like me who was paid in OPA* to shoot competitively can do it in one. (* Other People's Ammo).
So let's theoretically ban higher capacity magazines like we did once before. That will assuage this academic's tender sensibilities. Let's go clear back to 10 rounds like we had before… So the main difference will be that every law abiding citizen in the country now has fewer shots available for legitimate self defense (oh, and don't worry, I'll talk about why you need more shots here too), except that since there are literally millions of higher capacity magazines in circulation, the criminal will still have them, because remember, he don't give a shit.
Wait? What? Yeah… Last time they banned high cap mags, we went a whole decade using old ones AND DIDN'T RUN OUT. So you'd have to ban new ones, confiscate old ones, and remember… Criminals don't give a shit. (sensing a trend yet?)
There is obviously no need for any civilian to have such powerful weapons.
Au contraire. The founding fathers were far smarter than you, Dr. Webster. The 2nd Amendment exists as a final life insurance policy for the Constitution… Sure, I've seen lots of Facebook posts over the last few days talking about how absurd that is, which simply tells me that the author doesn't know history, current events, or is simply willfully naïve as to how the world works.
Anyone who says that sort of thing can't ever happen here is a fool. In 1900, Germany was the most socially, technologically, and culturally advanced country in the world. Thirty some odd years later they were a totalitarian murder machine.
But let's forget about the real reason for the 2nd Amendment for a moment and look at Webster's point. No civilian needs to have such powerful weapons…
Okay… He's only mentioned capacity, not actual power (sort of like mixing up torque and horsepower, but whatever), because relatively speaking all of the weapons used in this particular shooting were relatively low power, i.e. he was shooting a glorified varmint cartridge rather than an elk rifle. So let's concentrate on capacity. Why do civilians need guns that can hold that many rounds?
Rational gun policy, one that puts public safety ahead of the interests of the gun industry and gun enthusiasts, would ban firearms and ammunition clips that hold more than 10 rounds. Such a policy might not prevent many of our mass shootings, but it should reduce the number of victims from these incidents.
Why do I want a weapon that holds more than 10 rounds? Well, first and foremost, why do I have a self defense gun? It is a tool in my tool box used to solve a certain specific sort of problem. In this case, it is to defend myself from serious bodily harm from assailants. Notice the s on the end of assailant. As in plural.
10 shots isn't many if you have more than one attacker, or you miss, or most importantly, contrary to the movies, when a good guy shoots a bad guy, the bad guy doesn't fly backwards through the wall, do a flip, and catch on fire. Most defensive weapons simply poke a hole in the bad guy, which then bleeds, which causes a drop in blood pressure, which makes him stop trying to hurt you. Here in the real world, sometimes you have to shoot somebody multiple times in order to make them stop trying to murder you.
You've all heard the stories about the dude that gets shot 14 times by the cops and then walks under his own power to the ambulance. Nobody has ever gotten into a gun battle and said afterwards, "damn, I wish I hadn't brought all that extra ammo!" Many times it takes multiple shots to stop a determined attacker.
Skeptics might point to the federal assault weapons ban (a section of the 1994 Violent Crime Control Act) that Congress let expire in 2004 as a failure that did not affect overall homicide rates.
However, the law's impact was limited by its narrowness that made it easy for gun manufacturers to evade.
Remember when I said assault weapons ban was a made up word? Well, that's the problem when you try to legislate something that doesn't actually exist.
The problem was that since assault weapon to the media is defined as anything scary, the basically banded Civics with spoilers, but couldn't ban regular Civics.
And when a liberal says manufacturers "evade" he means obeyed the law. If the law said no folding stocks, we said okay, and put on regular stocks (one of the many items that were banned, yet which made zero functional difference).
A broad ban on the sale and possession of high capacity (more than 10 rounds) ammunition magazines with stiff penalties would translate into saved lives.
He asserts with no evidence.
Between 9,000 and 10,000 people are murdered each year with guns in the U.S., most garnering little attention.
Most garner little attention because the media doesn't want to draw attention to the fact that most murders happen in cities run by liberals that already have harsh gun control laws in place. Like Chicago for example.
Local news coverage of such events typically provides scant information or context to enable citizens to understand the role of guns in these incidents.
BWA HA HA HAW Ha snort! Did you just try to blame the main stream media for failing to put the role of guns into context? The same media that never reports any positive stories about defensive gun use? Sorry, I have to pause to wipe away my tears.
Invariably, the only time that gun violence and gun policy are discussed in the national media is after a horrific shooting rampage.
Yep. You guys are perched like vultures, just waiting to see if you can capitalize on fear or tragedy.
We should not brush aside discussions of gun policy as too politically difficult to expect meaningful change, or "the price for our freedoms."
Of course, when a liberal talks about freedom, he has to put the word into quote marks.
The reason nobody wants to talk about your gun policy is because your gun policy is stupid. This is one of those debates where most of the country has looked at your stupid way of doing things and said that it doesn't work and we don't want to do it anymore.
Your inner-cities are hell holes, and you blame us for the crime. Crazy people shoot innocents and you blame people who had nothing to do with it. You declare places like schools and movie theaters to be gun free zones, and they you blame us when nobody is there to defend them.
In fact, your single most reliable defense against this sort of attack is an immediate violent response, and since the police need time to get there, that means the immediate response has to come from the victim pool or not at all. Yet your policy is to kick us and our guns out of those places, that way the bad guys can work unmolested until the cops arrive.
Instead, we should reflect on why the U.S. has a murder rate that is nearly seven times higher than the average murder rate in other high-income countries
Oh really? And this is all about guns, and not about our failed Great Society, liberal inner city hell holes, gang warfare, our massive illicit drug trade, and all while comparing us to ethnically, racially, and socially homogenous countries far smaller than we are?
and a nearly 20 times higher murder rate with guns.
Because getting killed in England with a claw hammer is so much more awesome.
As Mark Twain said, lies, damned lies, and statistics. And statistics go right out the window the first time you need to defend yourself from somebody who wants to cut your face off and wear it as a hat and you really wish you had a gun to do it with.
Remember the thing with bombs earlier? Yeah… You make it harder to get guns, that's the next option. The only reason they don't get used more is that bombs are scarier to make, and take up to half an hour on the internet and trip to Home Depot to make, but once you get over that hurdle, then you can really cause some destruction. See for example, the rest of the entire world.
And what was the biggest mass murder at a school in US history? Michigan, 1927. And the crazy guy used a bomb.
And we should consider how flaws in current gun policies contribute to this disparity.
But wait… are these statistics even true? How about how the United Kingdom, a tiny island, with some of the strictest gun and even knife control, has some of the worst crime in Europe? An island, with the most police surveillance in the world, can't stop violent crime, and can't stop weapons from coming in. You might be a lot less likely to get into a mass shooting there, but you are a whole lot more likely to get your skull smashed in with a bat. And since mass shootings are extremely rare, but assholes who want to rape you and take your stuff are common, that's supposed to be a net positive trade?
And yet we, who have individual states with borders bigger than the entire UK, with a hundred million guns already in circulation, are going to ban everything and crime is going to magically stop? I don't think so.
Because let's say it again, criminals don't give a shit.
Standards for legal ownership and permits to carry a concealed gun are relatively lax in the U.S.
As they should be.
In most states, a person with a long history of arrests and convictions for misdemeanors (often pleaded down from felony charges), prior restraining orders for domestic violence and history of drug and alcohol abuse can own as many military-style weapons as he can afford to purchase,
Actually, that's not even close to true. And since Doc here is a professional academic elite anti-gun think tanker, so he's either deliberately lying or he's just stupid.
When you purchase a firearm from a dealer anywhere in America you have to fill out Form 4473 for the BATF. On that form are a series of questions, including some of the ones above, and when we call this information in to the ATF or whatever your state criminal investigatory agency is, they run a background check. If you come up as ineligible, the dealer can't complete the transaction.
So let's really think about what he's saying there… He wants people who were acquitted of crimes to be denied guns. He wants somebody who abused drugs twenty years ago to be denied the right to own a gun. (sorry Barack Obama, you'd be shit outta luck).
But really, let's be honest, he wants nobody to have a gun, but he can't come out and say that.
and can legally carry concealed guns almost anywhere.
Almost anywhere? Like the theater in Aurora? Oh, wait… Nope. Gun Free Zone. Virginia Tech? No… Also a Gun Free Zone… Hmmm… Columbine or any of the other schools that had shootings? Wait a second. Also Gun Free Zones. What about the Post Office? Well, huh… Gun Free Zone. What about some of these big workplace shootings… Why those are Gun Free Zones too? You don't say…
Wow. I'm seeing two trends here. Gun Free Zones only keep out the good guys with guns and the bad guys know it, and second, criminals don't give a shit.
Under federal law, anyone wanting to purchase a firearm from a licensed gun dealer must pass a background check.
But in most states, the gun dealer who stands to profit from a gun sale, rather than a law enforcement agency, determines the authenticity of purchasers' identification cards.
False. In fact, that's not true at all. You have to call the information in to a state audit agency that then checks their records to see if that person has anything on file which would bar purchase. This would include criminal charges, court orders, and convictions. I'm assuming the doctor knows this and is just pulling facts out of his ass.
Gun dealers face little consequence if they fail to account for dozens of guns upon inspection.
HA! That's a good one… Little consequence is hilarious. Oh wait, you're serious? Dude… The BATF will burn your house down. The BATF will destroy your business at the slightest hint that you've done something wrong. The BATF has no mercy, no kindness, and well and truly enjoy ruining gun dealer's days.
FFLs keep a bound book, all guns in, all guns out. If your bound book doesn't match your physical inventory, then you get shut down and everything gets confiscated while the BATF conducts an investigation.
So unless you consider going to prison a little consequence, then chalk up another lie.
Data indicating which gun dealers sell the most guns linked to crimes are kept from public view and cannot be used in decisions about the dealer's license.
Nope. BATF can revoke your license if they've got any reason. They even tried to throw the dealers involved in Fast & Furious to the wolves, except those guys were smart enough to document that the BATF had ordered them to go against the law and good sense.
Illogically, federal law and most state gun laws allow firearm purchases from private sellers with no background check or questions asked.
That is because we live in America and we still have private property. You are allowed to leave your guns to your kids. You are allowed to sell your firearms without the state's permission.
And here's the kicker, it is already illegal to knowingly sell a firearm to somebody who is prohibited by law from having a firearm. It is illegal to give a firearm to somebody who you think is going to commit a crime. Should you purchase a firearm from a dealer on behalf of somebody else who couldn't pass a background check, you are committing a felony. That is called a Straw Man Purchase, and those are only okay when it is Eric Holder shipping thousands of guns to Mexican drug cartels.
As a result of these policies, it is far too easy for dangerous people to own, carry and ultimately use guns.
And the easy availability of the internet and computers makes it too easy for dangerous people to spread dangerous ideas… See what I did there?
There are hundreds of millions of guns in the
US right now that aren't being used to murder anybody. Go figure. It looks like the doctor is trying to convict people of pre-crime. You have a gun, ergo, you are dangerous and should be banned. Not really, doc. I've got a gun exactly because it is dangerous. The danger is what makes it a useful tool.
Following mass shootings, gun control opponents have not been bashful about pushing for laws to remove restrictions on carrying guns in schools, bars and churches.
You mean all the places where mass shootings happen, but the single best deterrent against mass shootings aren't allowed? Friggin' dur, moron.
Indeed, calls for removing restrictions on carrying concealed firearms will not stop mass shootings.
Lie. Which is why we've all heard about Columbine, but not Paducah. That's why we've all heard about Virginia Tech, but not Virginia Law School… Similar circumstances, yet one side of those coins had body counts that got the headlines and the other didn't because there was somebody there with a gun to interfere with the bad guy's plans.
In just my local area since I've been a professional gun guy, a crazy lady started shooting people at the KSL building in Salt Lake, stopped by a permit holder with a .45. Trolley Square, bad guy on a rampage was stopped by an off duty in normal clothing cop with just a pistol until the SLCPD got there and shot the dude to death. Couple of weeks ago, dude bought a butcher knife at a grocery store and started slashing the hell out of a bunch of people, until he got proned out by a permit holder coming in from the parking lot.
Oh, there's more. Many, many, many more. And those are the rampages, which are statistical anomalies. You are way more likely to need your gun against a regular scumbag.
Research indicates that so-called right-to-carry laws don't reduce violence, and may increase aggravated assaults.
No. And in fact there is a lot of research that goes directly against that. See Mark Twain. We've been over this a million times already. If you torture statistics enough you can make them say whatever you want. John Lott wrote More Guns, Less Crime, showing a decrease in crime when the potential victims are armed, and all of the anti-gun think tankers have been playing catch up ever since.
But studies I have conducted indicate that stricter regulations of gun sales, whether by retail dealers or by private sellers, are associated with fewer guns diverted to criminals.
Yes. I should totally accept your non-biased study at face value. It isn't like you are a biased, political hack shill with an agenda.
Moreover, national national surveys show that a large majority of citizens favor these reforms to our gun laws, including most gun owners.
And it is common in your world to give up your rights based upon surveys? I do not think I would wish to live in this place.
In addition, there is substantial research showing that law enforcement strategies that focus on deterring illegal gun possession reduce violent crime.
You know what else deters violent crime? Shooting criminals in the face.
Public health initiatives in Chicago and Baltimore, which use reformed ex-gang-members to reach out to youth, mediate disputes and promote alternatives to violence, have also been shown to significantly reduce homicides and shootings.
I live in Yard Moose Mountain, Utah. I should give up my firearms because midnight basketball in inner city Baltimore will curb gang crime. Gotcha.
More than 30,000 people die every year from guns in the U.S., and more than 400,000 are victims of nonfatal crime committed with guns. The economic costs are staggering — an estimated $100 billion annually.
But he doesn't address the flip side, that depending on where you get your statistics from guns are used to PREVENT crime 2.5 MILLION times per year. Now that stat is from the NRA, so some of you will automatically throw it out. Okay, cool. Having done this before, I've also seen from other sources (remember statistics are all crap) 1 million, 800 thousand, or 600 thousand… And even if we went with the likely biased stats of the people who hate hate hate absolutely hatey-hate guns, the Brady Center puts the number of defensive gun uses at around 80,000, which means the Brady Center is totally cool with the population of your home town being murder-raped every year.
In most defensive gun uses, no shots are fired. Merely producing the gun ends the problem, because now you've gone from victim to work, and if the criminal wanted to work, he'd get a job. You'll notice that in two of the three local rampages I posted, no shots were fired by the good guys. Just having effective resistance was enough to shut them down.
Only a small fraction of these deaths are connected to mass shootings.
But the mounting deaths and associated trauma from mass shootings should motivate us to take action to make needed reforms to our gun laws, focus law enforcement resources on combating illegal gun possession and invest in prevention initiatives proven to reduce gun violence.
Midnight basketball, wishful thinking, and disarming the law abiding aren't going to do anything to prevent these sorts of things from happening, The best thing to stop them is a bullet to the head. Fast.
America's high rate of gun violence is shameful. When will we change?
Your side has already lost this debate. We tried your way and it was ineffectual. All you can do is punish the innocent while criminals well and truly do not give a shit. So now we are going to do it my way… Oh, and look at that, nationwide violent crime is down while concealed carry is up, except for in places where you don't allow the good guys to have guns.
Besides, Ice-T is on my side.
Checkmate, motherfucker.
Picture from the anti-gun magazine Rolling Stone, because that made me laugh.
And since I've had to talk about this damned topic so many times, here are some other fisking posts about gun control going clear back to 2007:
And for those not familiar, here is an explanation of Fast & Furious:

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Here is a pretty good Washington Post story about it (with a slightly overstated headline): Under kidney transplant proposal, younger patients would get the best organs
"Instead of giving priority primarily to patients who have been on the waiting list longest, the new rules would match recipients and organs to a greater extent based on factors such as age and health to try to maximize the number of years provided by each kidney - the most sought-after organ for transplants.
"The ethically fraught potential changes, which would be part of the most comprehensive overhaul of the system in 25 years, are being welcomed by some bioethicists, transplant surgeons and patient representatives as a step toward improving kidney distribution. But some worry that the changes could inadvertently skew the pool of available organs by altering the pattern of people making living donations. Some also complain that the new system would unfairly penalize middle-aged and elderly patients at a time when the overall population is getting older.
"Under one scenario, for 80 percent of kidneys, patients 15 years older or younger than the donor would get higher priority. The remaining 20 percent of organs - those deemed to have the best chance of lasting the longest based on the age and health of the donor and other factors - would be given to recipients with the best chances of living the longest based on criteria such as their age, how long they've been on dialysis and whether they have diabetes.
"But others worry that the changes could reduce the overall number of organs available for transplants or inadvertently further shift the matches between organs and recipients by affecting living donors, who are not regulated by UNOS. Some relatives who would have donated a kidney to a young patient might now decide not to, for example, putting pressure on other relatives to donate kidneys to older family members. In addition, the changes would do nothing to address the wide variation in waiting times in different parts of the country.
"If we really want to improve things, we need to address the variation in access to transplants based on geography," Ross said. "This factor, more than any other, would increase the overall number of life years gained from kidney transplantation."
Some argued that a better solution would be to give recipients the option of choosing what donor kidneys to accept.
"Some younger people may accept a donor that is higher risk and may not last as long if they could get it sooner," said Richard Freeman, chairman of surgery at Dartmouth Medical School. "It should be more patient-based and less driven by absolute gain in life years."
Others questioned the formula that would be used to match patients and organs. Because the system would be more complicated, it could backfire by creating suspicions of cheating, eroding confidence and reducing organ donations.
"It works well enough the way it is, and everyone understands it, which is important to maintain the public trust," said Benjamin Hippen, a kidney specialist at Metrolina Nephrology Associates in Charlotte."


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Jay Dorfman
Jay Dorfman is an associate professor of music education at Kent State University. His research interests include the uses of technology in music teaching instruction, popular music and music teacher education. Dr Dorfman is the author of Theory and Practice of Technology-Based Music Instruction (Oxford University Press, 2013) and the co-editor of Pluralism in American Music Education Research: A Collection of Essays and Narratives (Springer, 2018).


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Fish-on-friday tuna sandwich
It´s Lent, it´s Friday, it has to be fish. I could enthuse over the baked mackerel we had on Wednesday. Or talk about my favourite salmon rice. But not today. I have a poltergeist cold that refuses both to go away and to manifest itself clearly. I have deadlines. I want something simple and comforting, and even the thought of defrosting some chicken stock seems like a challenge, so I´ll go with that old friend, the tuna sandwich. And before anything else, please let´s agree to not give the holy name of tuna sandwich to those pale foamy wet flabby sacrilegious things that lurk in chill-cabinets.
Recipes for sandwiches aren´t really recipes, but only lists of quirks and fads and phobias masquerading under the name. There´s a lot of sandwich hectoring, plenty of huffy condemnation of certain ingredients, and always rules. Everyone has them, and they can be as weird as my father´s firmly held belief that pork and mustard don´t go together.
The only answer to this is a Rule to end all rules : Do it yourself. It´s the only way to avoid nasty jolts like finding mayonaise and cheese nestling under the same slice of bread, which I, for instance, hate, and my sister Gadea loves.
My version, which is, naturally, the best in the world and the one and only one for me is as follows:
Wholemeal loaf bread, crusts off.
One small can of tuna in olive oil.
Mayonaise from a jar, tricked out with a drizzle of olive oil and a good squirt of lemon juice.
Several drops of tabasco.
A couple of gherkins, the sweet and sour Polish or German kind, chopped very small.
A whole lettuce leaf, cut to the size of the bread, but not chopped or sliced.
I am not averse to some boiled egg going in, but I think it has to be the sort of forlorn boiled egg that comes back uneaten from a picnic. If you have to start boiling eggs the simplicity of procedure is broken and the whole experience ruined.
Serve with potato chips, preferably salt and vinegar, and either ice-cold beer or ice-cold Diet Coke. I think the bubbles complement it nicely. Must try it with Champagne sometime.
8 comentarios:
- LE BLOG dijo...
Yuhmmmm qué ricoooo! Esto sí que seré capaz de elaborarlo ¿no? Espero ser capaz de por lo menos, hacer "el mejor sandwich de atún del mundo"...
- 1:24 p. m.
- Lydia (The Perfect Pantry) dijo...
Hooray for tuna sandwiches with mayonnaise (or Miracle Whip, for those of us who have confessed to that particular culinary quirk)! Yes to tabasco and potato chips, too.
- 1:41 p. m.
- Lisa Fain (Homesick Texan) dijo...
Oh yes, olive oil and Tabasco are key! I hope you feel better. Now I'm going to make myself a tuna sandwich!
- 3:33 p. m.
Mmmm, nothing like a good tuna sandwich - I like the tabasco addition! (And I love your illustrations.)
- 4:41 p. m.
- Ramona dijo...
I admit I will boil an egg just for a tuna sandwich. I hope you feel better soon.
- 4:54 p. m.
Hey Ximena! Just dropped to say something totally irrelevant to your post sorry! :D
Acabo de hojear el libro de thermomix que compre, el ultimo, y me acabo de dar cuenta de que los dibujos son tuyos! Lo habia leido en un post pasado pero creia que era referente a un libro que no tenia y pense: vaya, OTRO libro de thermomix que tengo que comprarme ;) pero no!! ya lo tenia. jejeje
Que sepas que me encantan tus dibujos! Y los de este libro no iban a ser menos ^_^
Un abrazo,
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321 After these deeds of faithfulness, Sennacherib king of Assyria came and entered Judah; he encamped against the fortified cities, thinking to win them over to himself. 2 And when Hezekiah saw that Sennacherib had come, and that his purpose was to make war against Jerusalem, 3 he consulted with his leaders and commanders to stop the water from the springs which were outside the city; and they helped him. 4 Thus many people gathered together who stopped all the springs and the brook that ran through the land, saying, "Why should the kings of Assyria come and find much water?" 5 And he strengthened himself, built up all the wall that was broken, raised it up to the towers, and built another wall outside; also he repaired the Millo in the City of David, and made weapons and shields in abundance. 6 Then he set military captains over the people, gathered them together to him in the open square of the city gate, and gave them encouragement, saying, 7 "Be strong and courageous; do not be afraid nor dismayed before the king of Assyria, nor before all the multitude that is with him; for there are more with us than with him. 8 With him is an arm of flesh; but with us is the Lord our God, to help us and to fight our battles." And the people were strengthened by the words of Hezekiah king of Judah.
9 After this Sennacherib king of Assyria sent his servants to Jerusalem (but he and all the forces with him laid siege against Lachish), to Hezekiah king of Judah, and to all Judah who were in Jerusalem, saying, 10 "Thus says Sennacherib king of Assyria: 'In what do you trust, that you remain under siege in Jerusalem? 11 Does not Hezekiah persuade you to give yourselves over to die by famine and by thirst, saying, "The Lord our God will deliver us from the hand of the king of Assyria"? 12 Has not the same Hezekiah taken away His high places and His altars, and commanded Judah and Jerusalem, saying, "You shall worship before one altar and burn incense on it"? 13 Do you not know what I and my fathers have done to all the peoples of other lands? Were the gods of the nations of those lands in any way able to deliver their lands out of my hand? 14 Who was there among all the gods of those nations that my fathers utterly destroyed that could deliver his people from my hand, that your God should be able to deliver you from my hand? 15 Now therefore, do not let Hezekiah deceive you or persuade you like this, and do not believe him; for no god of any nation or kingdom was able to deliver his people from my hand or the hand of my fathers. How much less will your God deliver you from my hand?' " 16 Furthermore, his servants spoke against the Lord God and against His servant Hezekiah. 17 He also wrote letters to revile the Lord God of Israel, and to speak against Him, saying, "As the gods of the nations of other lands have not delivered their people from my hand, so the God of Hezekiah will not deliver His people from my hand." 18 Then they called out with a loud voice in Hebrew to the people of Jerusalem who were on the wall, to frighten them and trouble them, that they might take the city. 19 And they spoke against the God of Jerusalem, as against the gods of the people of the earth--the work of men's hands.
20 Now because of this King Hezekiah and the prophet Isaiah, the son of Amoz, prayed and cried out to heaven. 21 Then the Lord sent an angel who cut down every mighty man of valor, leader, and captain in the camp of the king of Assyria. So he returned shamefaced to his own land. And when he had gone into the temple of his god, some of his own offspring struck him down with the sword there. 22 Thus the Lord saved Hezekiah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem from the hand of Sennacherib the king of Assyria, and from the hand of all others, and guided them on every side. 23 And many brought gifts to the Lord at Jerusalem, and presents to Hezekiah king of Judah, so that he was exalted in the sight of all nations thereafter.
24 In those days Hezekiah was sick and near death, and he prayed to the Lord; and He spoke to him and gave him a sign. 25 But Hezekiah did not repay according to the favor shown him, for his heart was lifted up; therefore wrath was looming over him and over Judah and Jerusalem. 26 Then Hezekiah humbled himself for the pride of his heart, he and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, so that the wrath of the Lord did not come upon them in the days of Hezekiah.
27 Hezekiah had very great riches and honor. And he made himself treasuries for silver, for gold, for precious stones, for spices, for shields, and for all kinds of desirable items; 28 storehouses for the harvest of grain, wine, and oil; and stalls for all kinds of livestock, and folds for flocks. 29 Moreover he provided cities for himself, and possessions of flocks and herds in abundance; for God had given him very much property. 30 This same Hezekiah also stopped the water outlet of Upper Gihon, and brought the water by tunnel to the west side of the City of David. Hezekiah prospered in all his works. 31 However, regarding the ambassadors of the princes of Babylon, whom they sent to him to inquire about the wonder that was done in the land, God withdrew from him, in order to test him, that He might know all that was in his heart.
32 Now the rest of the acts of Hezekiah, and his goodness, indeed they are written in the vision of Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, and in the book of the kings of Judah and Israel. 33 So Hezekiah rested with his fathers, and they buried him in the upper tombs of the sons of David; and all Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem honored him at his death. Then Manasseh his son reigned in his place.


text: Zircon's reputation has suffered of late due to the introduction of a diamond simulant. So for the record, zircon (zirconium silicate, ZrSiO4) is NOT the same material as the artificial gem material Cubic Zirconia (zirconium oxide, ZrO2). However with that in mind, zircon has been used as a diamond simulant both for innocent and nefarious reasons. Zircon resembles diamond in luster and fire and colorless zircons have been mistaken for diamonds by experienced jewelers. Zircon can make a very attractive and affordable gemstone. It is found in browns and greens but can be heat treated to beautiful blue and golden colors. Colorless material is produced in this way as well. Zircon is the December Birthstone. As a mineral specimen, zircon is uncommon in most rock shops because attractive specimens are rare. However, fine specimens of well shaped zircons are available and are in demand. The typical simple crystal of zircon is a tetragonal prism terminated with four sided pyramids at each end. The prism may be lacking and the crystal can look octahedral. More complex crystals have faces of a less steeply inclined prism that taper the terminations. Also a secondary prism may truncate the primary prism by cutting off its edges and producing an octagonal cross-section through the crystal. There is even an eight sided pyramid (actually a ditetragonal dipyramid) that may modify the four sided pyramids. As you can see, zircon crystals can go from a very simple crystal to a rather complexly faceted form. PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS:


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Now Fry, it's been a few years since medical school, so remind me. Disemboweling in your species: fatal or non-fatal? Why would a robot need to drink? Tell her you just want to talk. It has nothing to do with mating. Hello, little man. I will destroy you! I didn't ask for a completely reasonable excuse! I asked you to get busy!
The Cryonic Woman
I suppose I could part with 'one' and still be feared… Humans dating robots is sick. You people wonder why I'm still single? It's 'cause all the fine robot sisters are dating humans! Ah, the 'Breakfast Club' soundtrack! I can't wait til I'm old enough to feel ways about stuff!


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The Sound of Music (film)
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The Sound of Music is a 1965 American film about a woman who leaves an Austrian convent to become a governess to a Naval officer widower and his seven children.
- Directed by Robert Wise. Written by Ernest Lehman, based on the novel by Howard Lindsay and Russel Crouse, which was based on an autobiography by Maria von Trapp (The von Trapp Family Singers) and the 1959 musical of the same name by Rodgers and Hammerstein.
Radiance that floods the screen...and warms the heart!taglines
Maria Rainer-Von Trapp
[edit]- [singing] The hills are alive with the sound of music,
With songs they have sung for a thousand years.
The hills fill my heart with the sound of music.
My heart wants to sing every song it hears!
My heart wants to beat like the wings of the birds that rise from the lake to the trees.
My heart wants to sigh like a chime that flies from a church on a breeze.
To laugh like a brook when it trips and falls over stones on its way.
To sing through the night like a lark who is learning to pray!
I go to the hills when my heart is lonely.
I know I will hear what I've heard before.
And my heart will be blessed with the sound of music.
And I'll sing once more.
- [singing] Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens,
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens,
Brown paper packages tied up with strings,
These are a few of my favorite things.
- The first three notes just happen to be, Do-Re-Mi. Do-Re-Mi-Fa-Sol [pronounced So]-La-Ti. Oh, let's see if I can make it easier.
[singing] Doe, a deer, a female deer. Ray, a drop of golden sun
Me, a name I call myself. Far, a long, long way to run.
Sew, a needle pulling thread. La, a note to follow Sol
Tea, a drink with jam and bread. That will bring us back to Do...
Captain Georg von Trapp
[edit]- [before he sings "Edelweiss" reprise version] My fellow Austrians, I shall not be seeing you again perhaps for a very long time. I would like to sing for you now... a love song. I know you share this love. I pray that you will never let it die.
[singing] Edelweiss, Edelweiss, every morning you greet me.
Small and white, clean and bright, you look happy to meet me.
Blossom of snow may you bloom and grow, bloom and grow forever.
Edelweiss, Edelweiss, bless my homeland forever.Blossom of snow may you bloom and grow, bloom and grow forever. Edelweiss, Edelweiss bless my homeland forever.
Reverend Mother
[edit]- [singing] How do you solve a problem like Maria?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
Many a thing you know you'd like to tell her, many a thing she ought to understand
...How do you hold a moonbeam in your hand?
- [singing] Climb ev'ry mountain, search high and low.
Follow ev'ry byway, every path you know.
Climb ev'ry mountain, ford every stream.
Follow every rainbow, till you find your dream.
A dream that will need all the love you can give
Every day of your life for as long as you live...
[edit]- Maria: I just couldn't help myself. The gates were open and the hills were beckoning and everything was so green and fresh, and the Untersberg kept leading me higher and higher, as if it wanted me to go right through the clouds with it.
- Reverend Mother: Child, suppose darkness had come and you were lost?
- Maria: Oh, mother, I could never get lost up there, that's my mountain, I was brought up on it,...It was the mountain that led me to you. Sometimes, I would come down the mountain, and climb a tree, and look over your wall into your garden and hear the Sisters singing on their way to Vespers; which brings me to another transgression, Reverend Mother, I was singing out there today, without permission...I can't seem to stop singing wherever I am. And what's worse, I can't seem to stop saying things - anything and everything I think and feel.
- Reverend Mother: Some people would call that honesty.
- Maria: Oh, but it's terrible, Reverend Mother. You know how Sister Berthe always makes me kiss the floor after we've had a disagreement? Well, lately I've taken to kissing the floor whenever I see her coming, just to save time.
- Captain: You are the twelfth in a long line of governesses who have come here to look after my children since their mother died. I trust you will be an improvement on the last one. She stayed only two hours.
- Maria: What's wrong with the children, Captain?
- Captain: Oh, there's nothing wrong with the children. Only the governesses. They were completely unable to maintain discipline. Without it, this house cannot be properly run. Will you please remember that, Fraulein? Every morning, you will drill the children in their studies. I will not permit them to dream away their summer holidays. Each afternoon, they will march about the grounds breathing deeply. Bedtime is to be strictly observed - no exceptions...You will see to it that they conduct themselves at all time with the utmost orderliness and decorum. I am placing you in command.
- ...
- Captain: Now, when I want you, this is what you will hear. [blows whistle]
- Maria: Oh, no, sir, I'm sorry, sir. I could never answer to a whistle. Whistles are for dogs and cats and other animals, but not for children, and definitely not for me. It would be too... humiliating.
- Captain: Fräulein, were you this much trouble at the Abbey?
- Maria: Oh, much more, sir!
- Captain: Hmm. [starts to leave the room when Maria blows the whistle. He looks back at her.]
- Maria: Excuse me, sir, I don't know your signal.
- Captain: You may call me "Captain."
- Maria: I'd like to thank each and every one of you for the precious gift you left in my pocket today.
- Captain: Um, what gift?
- Maria: It's meant to be a secret, Captain, between the children and me.
- Captain: Uh-huh. Then I suggest that you keep it, and let us eat.
- Maria: Knowing how nervous I must have been, a stranger in a new household, knowing how important it was for me to feel accepted. It was so kind and thoughtful of you to make my first moments here so warm and happy and... pleasant.
- [All the while, the children look guilty. Marta starts to cry]
- Captain: What is the matter, Marta?
- Marta: Nothing.
- [Louisa, Brigitta and Gretl join in, while Liesl, Friedrich and Kurt continue to look guilty]
- Captain: Uh, Fräulein... is it to be at every meal, or merely at dinnertime, that you, uh, intend leading us all through this rare and wonderful new world of... indigestion?
- Maria: Oh, they're all right, Captain. They're just happy.
- Rolfe: [singing] You are sixteen, going on seventeen, baby it's time to think.
Better beware, be canny and careful, baby you're on the brink.
You are sixteen, going on seventeen, fellows will fall in line...
Eager young lads and roués and cads Will offer you food and wine.
Totally unprepared are you, to face a world of men.
Timid and shy and scared are you, of things beyond your ken.
You need someone older and wiser, telling you what to do.
I am seventeen, going on eighteen. I'll take care of you... - Liesl: [singing] I am sixteen, going on seventeen. I know that I'm naive.
Fellows I meet may tell me I'm sweet, and willingly I believe.
I am sixteen, going on seventeen, innocent as a rose...
Bachelor dandies, drinkers of brandies, what do I know of those?
Totally unprepared am I, to face a world of men.
Timid and shy and scared am I, of things beyond my ken.
I need someone older and wiser telling me what to do.
You are seventeen, going on eighteen. I'll depend on you.
- Maria: Dear Father, now I know why You sent me here. To help these children prepare for a new mother. And I pray this will become a happy family in Thy sight. God bless the captain. God bless Liesl and Friedrich. God bless Louisa, Brigitta, Marta and little Gretl. And I forgot the other boy. What's his name? Well, God bless what's-his-name. God bless the Reverend Mother and Sister Margaretta and everybody at the abbey. And now, dear God, about Liesl. Help her know that I'm her friend and help her tell me what she's been up to...
- [a rain-soaked Liesl enters through Maria's window]
- Liesl: You are not going to tell father are you?
- Maria: Shh, help me to be understanding so that I may guide her footsteps. In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, Amen.
- Liesl: I was out walking and somebody locked the doors early. I didn't want to wake everybody, so when I saw your window open. You're not going to tell Father, are you?
- Maria: How in the world did you climb up here?
- Liesl: It's how we always got in to play tricks on the governess. Louisa can make it with a whole jar of spiders in her hand.
- Maria: Spiders? Liesl, were you out walking all by yourself? If we wash that dress tonight, nobody would notice it tomorrow. You could put this on. Take your dress and put it to soak in the bathtub. Come back here and sit on the bed, and we'll have a talk.
- Liesl: I told you today I didn't need a governess. Well, maybe I do.
- [Maria and the children are singing "My Favorite Things" and by the end, Maria is caught by the Captain]
- Captain: Fraulein Maria, did I or did I not say that bedtime is to be strictly observed in this household?
- Maria: Yes, well the children were scared of the thunderstorm and... You did, sir.
- Captain: And do you or do you not have trouble following these simple instructions?
- Maria: Only during thunderstorms, sir.
- Elsa: [about Rolf, who gave a Nazi salute] Oh Georg, he's just a boy.
- Captain: Yes, and I'm just an Austrian.
- Max: What's gonna happen's gonna happen. Just make sure it doesn't happen to you.
- Captain: [incensed] Max, don't you ever say that again!
- Max: You know I have no political convictions. Can I help it if other people do?
- Captain: Oh yes you can help it. You must help it.
- Captain: Is it possible, or could I have just imagined? Have my children by any chance been climbing trees today?
- Maria: Yes, Captain.
- Captain: I see. And where, may I ask, did they get these, uhm, these...
- Maria: Playclothes.
- Captain: Oh, is that what you call them?
- Maria: I made them, from the drapes that used to hang in my bedroom...They still had plenty of wear left. The children have been everywhere in them.
- Captain: Do you mean to tell me that my children have been roaming about Salzburg dressed up in nothing but some old drapes?!
- Maria: Umm, hmm, and having a marvelous time.
- Captain: They have uniforms.
- Maria: Straitjackets, if you'll forgive me.
- Captain: I will not forgive you for that.
- Maria: Children can't do all the things they're supposed to if they have to worry about spoiling their precious clothes.
- Captain: They haven't complained yet.
- Maria: Well, they wouldn't dare! They love you too much. They fear you too much!
- Captain: I don't wish you to discuss my children in this manner.
- Maria: Well, you've got to hear from someone! You're never home long enough to know them.
- Captain: I said I don't want to hear anymore from you about my children!
- Maria: I know you don't, but you've got to! Now, take Liesl.
- Captain: [hesitatingly] You will not say one word about Liesl, Fraulein.
- Maria: She's not a child anymore, and one of these days, you're going to wake up and find that she's a woman. You won't even know her. And Friedrich, he's a boy, but he wants to be a man and there's no one to show him how.
- Captain: Don't you DARE tell ME about my son!
- Maria: Brigitta could tell you about him if you let her get close to you. She notices everything.
- Captain: Fraulein...
- Maria: And Kurt pretends he's tough not to show how hurt he is when you brush him aside...
- Captain: That will do!
- Maria: ...the way you do all of them. Louisa I don't even know about yet...
- Captain: I said that will do!
- Maria: But somebody has to find out about her, and the little ones just want to be loved. Oh, please, Captain, love them! Love them all!
- Captain: I don't care to hear anything further from you about my children.
- Maria: I'm not finished with you!
- Captain: Oh, yes, you are, Captain! [pauses, then corrects himself] Fraulein! You will pack your things and return to the abbey.
- [suddenly hears the children singing]
- ...
- Captain: I behaved badly. I apologize...You were right. I don't know my children...You've brought music back into the house. I'd forgotten. Fraulein, I want you to stay. I ask you to stay more than you know.
- Elsa: My dear, is there anything you can't do?
- Maria: Well, I'm not sure I'll make a very good nun.
- Elsa: Oh, if you have any problems, I'd be happy to help you.
- Max: Is there a more beautiful expression of what is good in this country of ours than the innocent voices of our children?
- Zeller: Oh, come now, Baron, would you have us believe that Austria alone holds a monopoly on virtue?
- Captain: Herr Zeller, some of us prefer Austrian voices raised in song to ugly German threats.
- Zeller: The ostrich buries his head in the sand, and sometimes in the flag. [He turns toward the Austrian flag, prominently displayed] Perhaps those who would warn you that the Anschluss is coming - and it is coming, Captain - perhaps they would get further with you by setting their words to music.
- Captain: If the Nazis take over Austria, I have no doubt, Herr Zeller, that you will be the entire trumpet section.
- Zeller: You flatter me, Captain.
- Captain: Oh, how clumsy of me. I meant to accuse you.
- Elsa: Now, where is that lovely little thing you were wearing the other evening, when the Captain couldn't keep his eyes off you.
- Maria: Couldn't keep his eyes off me?
- Elsa: Come, my dear, we are women. Let's not pretend we don't know when a man notices us...
- Maria: The Captain notices everybody and everything.
- Elsa: Well, there's no need to feel so defensive, Maria. You are quite attractive, you know. The Captain would hardly be a man if he didn't notice you.
- Maria: Baroness, I hope you're joking.
- Elsa: Not at all.
- Maria: But I've never done a thing to...
- Elsa: But you don't have to, Maria. There's nothing more irresistible to a man than a woman who's in love with him.
- Maria: 'In love with him'?
- Elsa: Of course. What makes it so nice is he thinks he's in love with you.
- Maria: But that's not true.
- Elsa: Oh surely you've noticed the way he looks into your eyes. And you know, uh, you blushed in his arms when you were dancing just now. Don't take it to heart. He'll get over it soon enough, I should think. Men do, you know.
- Maria: Then I should go. I mustn't stay here.
- Maria: I left... I was frightened... I was confused. I felt, I've never felt that way before, I couldn't stay. I knew that here I'd be away from it. I'd be safe... I can't face him again... Oh, there were times when we would look at each other. Oh, Mother, I could hardly breathe... That's what's been torturing me. I was there on God's errand. To have asked for his love would have been wrong. I couldn't stay, I just couldn't. I'm ready at this moment to take my vows. Please help me.
- Reverend Mother: Maria, the love of a man and a woman is holy too. You have a great capacity to love. What you must find out is how God wants you to spend your love.
- Maria: But I pledged my life to God. I pledged my life to his service.
- Reverend Mother: My daughter, if you love this man, it doesn't mean you love God less. No, you must find out and you must go back.
- Maria: Oh, Mother, you can't ask me to do that. Please let me stay, I beg of you.
- Reverend Mother: Maria, these walls were not built to shut out problems. You have to face them. You have to live the life you were born to live.
- Captain: You left without saying goodbye, even to the children.
- Maria: It was wrong of me, forgive me.
- Captain: Why did you?
- Maria: Please don't ask me. Anyway, the reason no longer exists.
- Elsa: [entering] Fraulein Maria, you've returned. Isn't it wonderful, Georg?
- Maria: May I wish you every happiness, Baroness? And you too, Captain. The children tell me you're to be married.
- Elsa: Thank you, my dear.
- Captain: You are back to, uh, stay?
- Maria: Only until arrangements can be made for another governess.
- Captain: It's no use, you and I. I'm being dishonest to both of us and utterly unfair to you. When two people talk of marriage...
- Elsa: No, don't, don't say another word, Georg, please? You see, uh, there are other things I've been thinking of. Fond as I am of you, I really don't think you're the right man for me. You're much too independent and I need someone who needs me desperately, or at least needs my money desperately. I've enjoyed every moment we've had together. I do thank you for that. Now, if you'll forgive me, I'll go inside, pack my little bags, and return to Vienna where I belong. And somewhere out there is a young lady who I think will never be a nun.
- Captain: There isn't going to be any Baroness...well, we've, uhm, called off our engagement, you see...Well, you can't marry someone when you're in love with someone else, can you? [he kisses her]
- Maria: The Reverend Mother always says, 'when the Lord closes a door, somewhere he opens a window'.
- Captain: What else does the Reverend Mother say?
- Maria: That you have to look for your life.
- Captain:"Is that why you came back? [She nods] And have you found it Maria?
- Maria: I think I have. I know I have.
- Captain: I love you.
- ["Somthing Good" begins to play]
- Maria: Oh, can this be happening to me?
- ...
- [During the song]
- Captain: [he brings Maria to the center of the gazebo] Do you know when I first started loving you? That night at the dinner table when you sat at that ridiculous pine cone. [laughs]
- Maria: What? [laughs too] I knew the first time you blew that whistle.
- Captain: [as he caresses her cheek with his right hand] Oh, my love...
- Liesl: [after Ralf rejects her] Mother?
- Maria: That sounds so nice.
- Liesl: I like calling you "Mother."
- Maria: I like hearing it.
- Liesl: You love Father very much. I can tell you do.
- Maria: Very much.
- Liesl: Mother, what do you do when you think you love someone? I mean, when you stop loving someone or he stops loving you?
- Maria: Well, you cry a little. Then you wait for the sun to come out. It always does.
- Liesl: There are so many things I think I should know but I don't. I really don't.
- Maria: How can you?
- Liesl: Sometimes I feel the world is ending.
- Maria: Then you feel it's just beginning?
- Liesl: Yes!
- Maria: It was that way with me. And for you it will be just as wonderful.
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- Christopher Plummer - Captain Georg von Trapp
- Charmian Carr - Liesl von Trapp
- Nicholas Hammond - Friedrich von Trapp
- Heather Menzies - Louisa von Trapp
- Duane Chase - Kurt von Trapp
- Angela Cartwright - Brigitta von Trapp
- Debbie Turner - Martha von Trapp
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- Eleanor Parker - The Baroness Elsa
- Peggy Wood - Reverend Mother
- Anna Lee - Sister Margaretta
- Portia Nelson - Sister Berthe
- Ben Wright - Herr Zeller
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- Norma Varden - Frau Schmidt
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If you get headaches, you're not alone. Lots of kids have headaches from time to time.
Let's find out more about headaches and how you can feel better.
What Is a Headache?
Although it may feel like it, a headache is not a pain in your brain. Your brain tells you when other parts of your body hurt, but it can't actually feel pain. Most headaches happen in the nerves, blood vessels, and muscles that cover a person's head and neck. Sometimes the muscles or blood vessels swell, which means they get larger.
They also can tighten or go through other changes that stimulate or put pressure on the surrounding nerves. The nerves send a rush of pain messages to your brain, and you end up with a headache.
What Are the Kinds of Headaches?
The most common type of headache is a tension, or muscle-contraction, headache. This happens when stressed-out head or neck muscles keep squeezing too hard. When you get this kind of headache, the pain is usually dull and constant. It might feel as though something is pressing or squeezing on the front, back, or both sides of your head.
Pain that's especially sharp and throbbing can be a sign of a different kind of headache called a migraine (say: MY-grayne). Migraine headaches aren't as common as tension headaches, especially in kids, but they can still happen. Sometimes, just before a migraine happens, the person sees wavy lines or bright spots of light. This is called an aura (say: AWR-uh). Also, kids who get migraines often feel sick to their stomachs and sometimes throw up.
What Causes Headaches?
Sometimes a headache is just a part of another illness, such as a cold or flu or strep throat. When you get better, the headache gets better, too.
If you're not sick, other triggers may cause a headache. For example, staying up too late, skipping a meal, or playing in the hot sun too long can set off a headache.
Excitement about a special event or worry about something (a school exam, for instance) can also cause headaches. Some kids get headaches from riding in a car or bus or from straining their eyes by spending too much time watching TV or using other devices with a screen.
Strong odors, such as perfume, smoke, fumes, or the smell of a new car or carpet, can start a headache.
Some foods can cause headaches in some kids, such as bacon, bologna, and hot dogs. The caffeine in sodas, chocolate, coffee, and tea may cause headaches, too. Kids don't need caffeine, so it's a good idea to limit it in your diet.
Sometimes no one knows why a kid gets headaches, but if you get them, chances are someone in your family gets them, too. The tendency to get headaches is often inherited. In other words, it runs in the family.
Headache Help
Most headaches will go away after you've rested or slept awhile. When you get one, the first thing you should do is tell an adult, so he or she can help. Lie down in a cool, dark, quiet room and close your eyes. Put a cool, moist cloth across your forehead or eyes. Relax. Breathe easily and deeply.
A grown-up can give you a pain relief medicine — either acetaminophen (say: uh-see-tuh-MIH-nuh-fun) or ibuprofen (say: i-byoo-PROfun). You want to avoid taking aspirin for a headache because it may cause a rare but dangerous disease called Reye syndrome (say: RYE SIN-drome).
When Should I Go to a Doctor?
Headaches are very rarely a sign of anything serious. Headache triggers such as eating certain foods, being stressed out, or not getting enough sleep are much more likely causes of headaches in kids. Or sometimes, there's no obvious reason at all.
Still, there are times when your parent should talk with the doctor about your headaches:
- when a headache is particularly painful
- when a headache doesn't go away easily
- when a headache follows an injury, such as hitting your head
- when your vision is affected
- when you feel tingling sensations
- when you just don't seem like your usual self
- when headaches occur once a month or more
- when headaches cause you to miss school
- when headaches happen mostly in the morning when you wake up or they wake you up from sleep
A doctor can help you and your parents figure out why you're getting headaches and might be able to help you keep them from happening so often. Sometimes relaxation exercises or changes in diet or sleeping habits are all that's needed. If necessary, a doctor also can prescribe medication to control headaches.
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What starts as a friendly competition between Sonic and Knuckles quickly intensifies as Shadow and other rivals jump into the action. Sonic Rivals allows gamers to utilize boost moves and power-ups to trip, shove, and vault over each other while hurtling towards the finish line at breakneck speeds. Players will negotiate wildly twisting 3D tracks while avoiding the insidious Dr. Eggman and his myriad of hazardous traps and contraptions.
"Sonic Rivals brings back the classic 2D platform gameplay that started it all, and douses it with vibrant three-dimensional environments," said Scott A. Steinberg, Vice President of Marketing, SEGA of America, Inc. "In this heated rivalry, gamers are tested to prove not only who's the fastest but who has the best head-to-head gameplay strategy."
In Sonic Rivals, gamers can play as one of four different characters from the Sonic Universe, each with separate fast and winding storylines. In addition, the extensive rewards system, which is based on collecting trading cards, allows players to customize their favorite characters. Connect via wireless to race against a friend, and put trading cards on the line for even more multiplayer challenges.
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Cycle path through the heath near Hilversum and Laren (North-Holland province). |
These cycle paths go back a long way. A very long way. In fact they were among the first to be built in the Netherlands. Money for their construction was brought together by societies founded for the specific reason of building and maintaining cycle routes in this richer region of the country. The paths were needed for the well to do who wanted to spend a nice Sunday afternoon on their brand new bicycles. The "Vereniging voor aanleg en onderhoud van wielerpaden in Gooi en Eemland" (Society for construction and maintenance of cycle paths in Gooi and Eemland) was founded on 4th March 1914. Albeit under a different name, the society still exists and takes care of 110 kilometers of cycle paths in a relatively small region.
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Wednesday, June 30th, 2010After two weeks of oppressive hot, humid weather, I was shocked to hear my furnace kick in last night! The night's temperatures hit the low 50's which seems bizarre for Indiana as we head into the month of July. I awoke to a gorgeous morning …. a cool breeze, no humidity, and clear blue skies. It was perfect for some birdwatching, so I grabbed my camera and headed out to the meadow behind my house. As I approached the edge of the field, I was met with a wonderful sweet scent. I think you might be surprised to find out the culprit was milkweed which is in full bloom right now.
I didn't seen any new or unusual birds, but I did get a couple of pictures that I think you might find interesting. At the edge of the field is a pair of nesting bluebirds. I've been maintaining bluebird boxes for years, and the birds are accustomed to my periodic checks of the boxes. I'll check this particular box in about two more weeks and might be able to give you a peek at the babies. That will be the last time I check the box until after the young have fledged. I don't want to risk causing them to leave the nest prematurely.
I finally located the catbird's nest. I knew it was out there somewhere, and I've actually been a little worried about it. I found a dead catbird near the house recently and was concerned that it might be the female. My worries were allayed as she sat nearby "meowing" at me as I snapped a couple of quick pictures.


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Naomi Folkard talks shoulder alignment for recurve archers. The shoulder is a remarkably mobile joint. The humerus – the long bone in the upper arm between your elbow and your shoulder – fits into the scapula like a ball and…
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Saturday, January 19. Before midterms kick in for UCD students. |
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We'll get started at 3PM; will probably kick it until it's dark |
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Weather Permitting: Slide Hill Park |
Weather Not Permitting: Psi Phi House - 1726 Haussler Drive |
People attending and items they'll bring:
- PhilipNeustrom will bring some vegetarian meat-like item(s)
- BrentLaabs will bring Psi Phi along in addition to something edible like meat and a Weber grill.
- PaulHarms will bring two Greek Salads, one with salami and one without.
- ChristopherMcKenzie will bring smile, joy, and a curry dish or kale dish, depending what he has in the kitchen at that time.
- EmilyTung will bring non-toxic orange juice.
- JillWeinstein will bring turkey burgers and an open mind.
- SteveDavison Charcoal, baked beans, other TBD.
- MaxMikalonis has no clue what to bring, given that he decided against Nevada too late...
- JessicaLuedtke and family will be there with vegan chocolate cake.
- Michael Clifford may be there, and will bring plates if he does.
- BillKendrick and family will be there. Err, with a baby. Not to eat, though, sorry.
- PaulHarms will be disappointed then :-(
- MichelleAccurso is on her way empty-handed, but with open arms
See Also: Past Wiki BBQs
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2007-12-08 15:23:06 yeeeees. I will try to make it. Depends on work schedule. And I will bring something delicious if I can make it. —MichelleAccurso
2007-12-08 16:38:27 David, I'm not edible. —BrentLaabs
I disagree! —HumanConsumer
2008-01-13 15:40:29 Does anyone know what time of day this will be? —BrentLaabs
And where? —MichelleAccurso
2008-01-14 00:21:50 Slide Hill has always been nice... —MichelleAccurso
I agree. —JessicaLuedtke
2008-01-15 05:19:02 Anybody who is going want to be brave and toss Slide Hill as the location? —JabberWokky
2008-01-18 11:25:10 I don't know if I'll be in town, but if I am I might go early and bring cookies. We'll see... —CalamityJanie
2008-01-18 12:39:24 If you're coming with a grill, try to get there earlier than 3 PM. Remember, there won't be much daylight left this time of year, so we'll need to get those fires going. —BrentLaabs
2008-01-18 14:54:29 I would love to attend the Wiki BBQ! I'm going to be there—unless I get stuck at work. And I'll buy the most delicious side dish I can find. I'm a disaster in the kitchen so I'll spare you all from my "cooking." —CurlyGirl26
2008-01-19 12:22:22 Brent - are Weber grills really edible? Perhaps when served under an open flame? —IDoNotExist
I suggest you reread that sentence. -BL
2008-01-19 13:18:53 Since it's always an issue - someone buying store bought stuff should bring plates, plasticware, etc. Or be on the safe side and BYO. —JessicaLuedtke
2008-01-19 18:33:26 BBQ was fun, thanks to the BBQ-masters for cooking up my sausage while I chased the little one. —EdHenn
2008-01-20 13:30:56 That was quite tasty! Yum! —IDoNotExist
2008-01-20 13:41:12 I can't stop thinking about how good Chris' curry and Doug's scones were! —PhilipNeustrom
2008-01-20 20:18:11 Guess I missed the memo! —JaimeRaba