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#14273 closed Cleanup/optimization (worksforme)
Development server does not shutdown cleanly
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I am able to run the development server for testing but when I hit Ctrl-C to stop it, the error below is thrown. It is occurring in versions 1.2.1, 1.2.2, and 1.2.3. It's not preventing usage that I can see but it is a bit of an eyesore.
$: python manage.py runserver Validating models... 0 errors found Django version 1.2.1, using settings 'mayham.settings' Development server is running at http://127.0.0.1:8000/ Quit the server with CONTROL-C. ^CUnhandled exception in thread started by <function inner_run at 0x872cc8b4> Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/core/management/commands/runserver.py", line 60, in inner_run run(addr, int(port), handler) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/django/core/servers/basehttp.py", line 721, in run httpd.serve_forever() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/SocketServer.py", line 224, in serve_forever r, w, e = select.select([self], [], [], poll_interval) select.error: (4, 'Interrupted system call')
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comment:1 Changed 6 years ago by rmboggs
- Needs documentation unset
- Needs tests unset
- Patch needs improvement unset
Sorry, should have specified. This occurred on OpenBSD current using either Python 2.6.5 and 2.6.6.
comment:2 Changed 6 years ago by mariarchi
- Resolution set to wontfix
- Status changed from new to closed
It's not a bug.
By pressing ctrl+c while the system call is executed (select.select) you're indeed interrupting it, which django tells you.
comment:3 Changed 6 years ago by rmboggs@…
- Resolution wontfix deleted
- Status changed from closed to reopened
Yes, I am interrupting it because django is telling me to hit CONTROL-C to quit the development server. No offense intended but it seems like a bug to me if an error occurs while following django's directions.
If I am understanding right, this error is just an eyesore. CONTROL-C quits the dev server like it is suppose to but just displays that error. It works normally for Linux systems but on OpenBSD, the error appears.
comment:4 Changed 6 years ago by russellm
- Triage Stage changed from Unreviewed to Accepted
Yes - it is just an eyesore. And yes, it should be cleaned up.
Changed 6 years ago by rmboggs
comment:5 Changed 6 years ago by rmboggs
- Has patch set
The attached patch catches this specific issue but raises anything else. It worked during my tests on OpenBSD and should be good across the board. Please commit patch if acceptable. If not, please let me know what else is needed so I can make the appropriate corrections.
comment:6 Changed 5 years ago by julien
- Severity set to Normal
- Type set to Cleanup/optimization
Changed 5 years ago by julien
comment:7 follow-up: ↓ 8 Changed 5 years ago by julien
I think the attached patch is a bit better. Could you test it under OpenBSD?
comment:8 in reply to: ↑ 7 Changed 5 years ago by rmboggs
Replying to julien:
I think the attached patch is a bit better. Could you test it under OpenBSD?
Yeah, I'll give it a try today...
comment:9 Changed 5 years ago by rmboggs
I just tried the patch you provided on the latest snapshot of OpenBSD and it is not catching the exception. It's unfortunate because that patch did look cleaner than the one I provided.
Is there anything else that I can do to clean up the patch I provided to get it committed?
comment:10 Changed 5 years ago by julien
Could you track down which exception is actually raised, if any, on OpenBSD? Maybe try placing a breakpoint in a plain try/except statement using pdb (http://docs.python.org/release/2.5.2/lib/module-pdb.html).
comment:11 Changed 5 years ago by rmboggs
Well, the exception that is raised is in the original description of this ticket. It looks like it originates in Python's SocketServer.py. I'll start digging around there unless there is a better suggestion...
comment:12 Changed 5 years ago by aaugustin
- UI/UX unset
Change UI/UX from NULL to False.
comment:13 Changed 5 years ago by aaugustin
- Easy pickings unset
Change Easy pickings from NULL to False.
comment:14 Changed 3 years ago by aaugustin
- Status changed from reopened to new
comment:15 Changed 3 years ago by unaizalakain
- Cc unai@… added
Could you please try out with Django 1.4 or newer? Only to confirm that a patch is still needed.
comment:16 Changed 3 years ago by timo
- Patch needs improvement set
comment:17 Changed 2 years ago by giuliettamasina
I can't reproduce this in Django 1.5.5 running on OpenBSD 5.5.
Doing Ctrl-C just gets be back to prompt, no traceback, just as in e.g. Mac OS.
comment:18 Changed 2 years ago by timo
- Resolution set to worksforme
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Totally understand your enjoying the privacy and quiet while you are running through a cold. Enjoy it -- I'm sick too -- and though I do have my baby full-time at this point, I am enjoying it to the extent that I can just lie around and be sick!
A couple of months ago I got the stomach flu. Didn't throw up, but it still wasnt' pleasant and I spent most of two days just laying on the couch very uncomfortable, feverish, and just couldn't hardly do anything. My ex was set to pick up the kids at 3 on the day I got sick so I spent morning/early afternoon with my youngest pretty much just letting her watch TV the whole time, then drove her to the pickup spot, went home, and just crashed. The kids came back the next afternoon. I was still sick but not as bad as the first day. Thank god ex got them that day because I probably would have locked myself in my room and cried if they were around lol. Ex actually called the next day and returned the kids early because apparenty he got sick the next day haha. I think my YDD was the carrier because she had some poo issues a couple days prior but didn't really act sick.
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Factional spats in the ANC and tripartite alliance are behind the latest turmoil at the SABC, with the head of news being placed on "special leave".
The ANC has been keeping a close eye on two union leadership contests, namely the National Union of Mineworkers and National Union of Metalworkers.
Striking coal and gold miners will meet the Chamber of Mines in a bid to end strikes that have cost the country tens of millions of dollars.
Numsa boss Irvin Jim, who is leading the national metal and engineering workers' union wage strike, has been touted as a possible successor to Vavi.
The National Union of Mineworkers hopes to secure a 14% pay hike this week at its wage discussions with the Chamber of Mines, which has offered 4%.
Cosatu has called on Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba to suspend his appointments to the Eskom board until the unions have been consulted.
The National Union of Mineworkers has come out in support of the youth league's push to nationalise mines, in terms set out by the Freedom Charter.


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On Tap for Today: Gallery hopping, television and heavy metal
So the Super Bowl is over. I hope Coach Harbaugh won.
How do you follow-up a day of football, wings and beverages? Well, now that your football itch has been scratched, how about taking in some art? »Read Full Blog Post
'Walking Dead' stars, producer coming to Riverside Theater
Between the unfathomably desperate conditions, an extreme distrust of others and the constant fear of death, things are plenty tough for the unlucky living enduring a cataclysmic zombie apocalypse on AMC's "The Walking Dead."
But the show itself couldn't be sitting any prettier. »Read Full Article
Mequon's Bhati Beads accessorize SI swimsuit models
Margaret Maggard of Mequon might be the only person watching Sports Illustrated Swimsuit 2013 models on "The Today Show" this morning because of what they were wearing on their wrists.
It's the seventh year that the magazine has used Maggard's Bhati Beads jewelry to accessorize its famous models. In the segment, Gomes and Henderson joined Sports Illustrated senior editor MJ Day to talk about the fit, the look and the style of swimsuits. »Read Full Article
Here's your chance to design the 2013 Jazz in the Park T-shirt
Jazz plus art equals the chance to design the official 2013 Jazz in the Park T-shirt.
The competition is open to all professional and amateur designers. Consideration will be given to designs honoring the heritage of jazz and calling to mind music ranging from New Orleans to Chicago to New York and places in between while never forgetting that this is Milwaukee. »Read Full Article
On Tap Today: A time for restraint - and John McClane
Lent begins today, a season of reflection, self-denial and restraint.
But that doesn't mean you have to give up everything. »Read Full Blog Post


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More Owly Love for Mary
An owl themed receiving blanket to co-ordinate with a layette set made earlier for the owl-loving momma. The baby shower is just over a week away.
Oh, how adorable! You've really done beautiful work. I'm sure it will be the hit of the shower.
Such cute projects! Wonderfully knit!
Oh, how nice! You did a great job!
How very cute! I am sure baby and mom will love it.
Wow! Absolutely perfect.
If your friend has lots of kids, you're going to have fun topping these gifts with something better. These are adorable!
Owlly Momma is my daughter's oldest friend. They grew up together. I nearly raised this girl (her own home life was a total mess. Our house was sanctuary.) she calls me her other mother. My daughter asked me to be supportive of her friend regarding this baby, knowing that I will, and her own family won't. So sad. But I'm so happy to do so. :yay:
Kudos to you for being the surrogate mother to this woman! I'm sure she will love the knitted baby stuff, which will be an ever-present reminder to her of your love for her and her baby.
But yeah, save some of that creativity and ingenuity for some grand kids!!!
Shower Pics!
(by the way, I'm so proud that my items were the only gifts that were passed around the entire room - including other handmade gifts!)
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"Ordered these to go with my invitations. They matched perfect! The quality of the paper is great! It's awesome how you can personalize the font and colors! Very elegant! I recommend them as they put a beautiful finishing touch to the envelopes."
"I bought these to label my daughter's birthday favors. I have not used them yet, but they are a well made product and I bought the matching invitation. They feel like good quality stickers and look beautiful."
"Excellent quality - make simple presents look more elegant and saves time as no card necessary for all of the nursery school party gifts."
"I used these on the Valentine's my daughter took to school for her friends. They were great. I sealed all her little gift bags with the sticker. It made things so easy and adorable. They are darling!"
"These are adorable! I stick them on everything my son takes to school. It is so easy to label all his belongings and feel confident that they will all return home:)"


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I took a blind swing and clocked the guy above his right eye. It was a solid hit for it caused a cut above his right eye that required stitches. The guy ran off and I shut the door and locked it. I didn't think anything else of it I went back to sleep. Thereafter, about 4am (four hours latter) There was this loud knock at the door. This time I wasnt going to answer it. When I looked out the window I seen three cops. So I answered it. They read me my rights before they even said a ward else wise.
They asked me why my fist was cut. I told them what happen. They asked if they could come in. Not knowing better and not having anything to hide, I let them in. Once they got into my room, they walked everywhere looking for something. I said what are you guys doing. They took a hold of my fake Katana swords. They arrested me for Agravated assault. While in jail, the guy who tried to home raid me came into jail for burglary and pos of meth. They bunked me with the guy.
I complained to the guards about the situation. So the guards moved him. Two weeks latter, they moved me to a diffrent block, and the person in the bed right next to me was none other than that guy. I complained again and they moved him. they released me the following week. As it turned out, the guy who tried to home raid me, was braking into peoples homes and stealing their things for meth. And that guy had a long record for doing that stuff. So they released me.
Now I have a law suite on St George City and Washington County Jail for civil right violation and wrongful imprisonment and wrongful arrest. The cops went to my home where this all happen four hours after the fact, arrested they guy who was at home the whole time. The cops beveled the meth head who had a record for doing the very same thing that I told the cops about. So I think we need to donate some crayons so the cops can better protect and serve
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Russia has pulled back tens of thousands of troops stationed for weeks along the border with Ukraine's restive east, US officials reported last night.
Washington gave a cautious welcome to the "promising" withdrawal of the vast majority of up to 40,000 troops posted alongside the border.
As many as two thousand Russian military personnel still remain, acording to US officials.
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Need proof that many parents regret having children? Fifteen 'rents dish As you get older your mind will make up more and more reasons why it makes sense to have a kid. Don't be fooled, it's just evolution tricking you into reproducing — no sane, thinking beast would take on the burden of raising a child if the mind didn't fool us into it. So, does the world need another one of you? Or are you just being fooled into making a baby… (Source: 15 Parents Explain Why They Regret Having Children | Thought Catalog)
Why Parents Regret Having Children (Thought Catalog)
We Forgot to Have Kids: Gas Station Condoms and Childfreedom
It's Friday night CFers! What's on your sybaritic to-do list? Ain't childfreedom a $#@%?!?!
Okay, snark aside, I'm confident that you'll have a wonderful evening (and weekend), especially once you check out Kevin B. Morrow's (@kbmrg) lighthearted but sincere reflection on his childfree marriage. His HuffPo post is called "Childless by Choice – Gas Station Condoms and Rumors of Infertility", but the subtitle should be, "We forgot to have kids!" I've used this awe-shucks explanation often enough myself, so his words resonated for me. Might for you too. Anyway, it's a quick read. You can squeeze in this quick read between your après-work massage and happy hour! You know, when your friends are picking up the babysitter…
But if you're feeling too mellow after your massage (or you've already jumpstarted happy hour), I'll pull a couple of my favorite quotes.
It's very strange that I had no problem buying liquor or illegal drugs when I was in my late teens but I was too embarrassed to buy condoms in a drug store… My solution to this dilemma was to buy condoms from a vending machine in the bathroom of a gas station that was at the end of the airport runway.
It honestly is odd how uncomfortable males are about buying condoms, many even once they're all grown up. Why is that? Maybe we need to make it cool so that teens will make smarter choices…
Anyway, Kevin grew up and now he's buying his wife's feminine hygiene products and condoms without even flinching. I've got to admit that I'm still working on the cool-as-a-cucumber tampon purchase. Maybe I'll update you once I master it. Kevin tacks from here to the first subtle look at why he and his bride opted for a childfree marriage.
Children can't be let out in the yard to play until you get up at 1:30 p.m. on Sunday because you were out late the night before. Dogs can.
Obvious humor here, and I have a weakness for folks who can shine light on serious stuff by making me laugh. But there's another aspect of this droll throwaway that's less droll and not really a throwaway. When I grew up we were out in the yard, the woods, and everywhere else all day on weekends. And summers. And snow days. But somehow this basic and wonderful aspect of childhood vanished over the last decade or so. Poof! Gone. It's uncanny how few children wander neighborhoods nowadays, how few sleds and snowballs fights criss-cross postcard perfect snowy lawns. I know this isn't what Kevin's talking about, but it's on my database of reasons why I'm child free. Somewhere we lost something. How? When? Why?
The reality for me and for Kevin and many others, we just sort of forgot to have kids.
The reality was that neither of us ever had a strong desire to be parents. The wonderful mental images had crossed our minds; coloring with a cute three year old, taking them trick or treating on Halloween, or seeing their faces on Christmas morning as they opened presents. We recognized however that this was a romanticized view and not everything that was involved in parenting.
It's interesting to me how often I hear this explanation. This is the main reason that my bride and I skipped breeding. We love children, but we felt no burning desire to make one of our own. We borrow them. We spoil them. We return them. And so far that's worked out just fine for us. We weren't – and we still aren't – anti parenting/kids/etc. We just had a lot stronger interest in other parts of life. And the prime breeding years shuffled past without provoking much interest from us. We forgot to have kids!
I'll wrap up with Kevin's final funny anecdote.
My father-in-law had some sort of surgery and my wife had gone to Florida to be his "nurse" during this time. As he woke up from the anesthesia, she was standing there and he asked her "Have you had Kevin tested?" her response was "for what?" Thoughts of STDs and AIDS ran through her mind. He then said "well you've never had kids." Her response:
"I guess it might help if we stopped using birth control."
If only that were enough for most people…
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- Hollywood's Childless by Choice club (childfreenews.com)
- Childless by choice: Statistics show more are opting out of parenthood (childfreenews.blogspot.com)
- Advancing the Research on the Childfree & Online Childfree Communities (lauracarroll.com)
- Photo Essay?: Childfree Celebrities (whynokids.com)
- The Fruitful Callings of the Childless By Choice (childfreenews.com)
Childfree Travel: No Kids Allowed
While we at WNK are pleased to see that the childfree travel discussion is happening more publicly and frequently, we are frustrated with how the questions are framed in many of these types of interviews that make the quest for quiet and serenity seem discriminatory. The participants in the following video actually question the legality of childfree travel destinations. While virtually every hotel is child or family friendly and there are plenty of kidcentric places: Disney World, Chuck E Cheese, etc., we wonder why it is such a problem to have a few adult only hotels, floors, pools or even sections of hotels?
Childfree Travel Questions
The following childfree travel questions come from the article at NECN.com:
Is it really right to ban children from hotels and other establishments?
o While it's not precisely legal in the US (it is in other parts of the world-so during international travel in hotels and on certain sections of airlines, do check), some establishments advertise themselves as "adults only" (but not in that sense). Restaurants led the way on this, but now many hotels are joining in.
What is driving this change?
o The biggest source is changing demographics. We have many more DINKs than ever before (Double Income No Kids) who have the resources to want to travel in the lap of luxury.
o Additionally almost 20 percent of women today won't have kids-a number that has basically doubled since the 1970s. This means that some may be less tolerant of children than before, and that this new/growing market segment wants tailored services.
Is not allowing children in hotels and other establishments really the best strategy?
o Probably not. How else will children ever learn to behave properly unless they are exposed to these situations?"
As you take your February break we'd like to hear your thoughts on childfree sections of planes, hotels and restaurants. Please share your favorite escapes for childfree serenity!
Related articles:
- Motherhood: A Choice not a Destination (whynokids.com)
- Top Twelve 2012 Posts (whynokids.com)
- 2012 Childfree Data Dump (whynokids.com)
- Childfree Christmas (whynokids.com)
2012 Childfree Data Dump
So it's almost Christmas and you're sending your third post card (easier for elves to eavesdrop) to Santa asking for a sexy digital tablet. An iPad, Kindle, Nook, Nexus,… anything!
"I just want to read Why No Kids? from the comfort of my sofa! Is that so wrong?"
No. It's not wrong. It's your childfree right. And it's very, very good.
In anticipation of your glossy new, backlit ereading device we've compiled a WNK digest to turbocharge your first day on the sofa. Er, ahem, your first day on the sofa reading Why No Kids? on your sexy new tablet.
Actually… that's not 100% true. The reality is, 2012 is winding up and we've got almost four dozen post "stubs" that we haven't managed to finish and publish. And we don't want them to drag into 2013 without you're getting a chance to plunge into the wild and wooly world of WNK wonkery. Really. So, we've decided to wrap up some of the best almost-published posts in shiny holiday wrapping paper and frilly Technicolor ribbon for you to enjoy. Before they get stale.
Don't worry, it's not four dozen. Or even one dozen. But ten. Ten you'll-thank-us-afterward childfree gems for you to savor on your new toy. I mean, your new tool. Enjoy!
Childfree Aggression
There are two types of childfree people; those who like children but are happy without their own, and those aggressive ones who down right hate children and wish they would disappear from the face of the planet – or would at least be locked up with their breeder parents into a kennel somewhere out of sight until they turn 18, or preferably 25. The later mentioned are to the childfree what "breeders" are to parents – the ones that give all of us a bad rep.
What troubles me the most about aggressive childfree people is that they often demand respect for their choice to not "breed", but offer no respect to the parents choice to have children. ~ Sebastyne (insightfulpath.net
Laura Carroll on Childfree Myths
Laura Carroll, an early and inspiring friend of Why No Kids? is the author of Families of Two. Watch this video excerpt of Laura Carroll on The Early Show exposing myths about childless couples. "When asked about making a childfree choice, Laura recommends seeking mutual understanding, being open and truthful with family and friends as well as being selective about who you tell…" (YouTube)
42% of American Women are Childless
A blast of Pure Oxygen with Madeline Cain, author of The Childless Revolution, reveals that nearly half of the women in the United States do not have children. This interview includes two early middle age adults who're childfree by choice. Discover why… (YouTube)
No Kids Allowed: Childfree Movie Theaters
When I went to see Spider-man… A young couple had a child of about 3 who yelled, cried, and squirmed throughout a good portion of the movie… The parents tuned out the child and blissfully watched their movie… When Jake and I were at the Avengers, there was a couple a few rows up who had about 5 children under the age of 7. Up and down the aisles they ran, while the youngest cried and fussed. The parents took nary a notice… Parents, you have to understand, whatever disturbance your children were to you during the movie, it was 10X worse for everyone around you. (Hackman's Musings)
Bill Maher on Children and Childfreedom
This pair of Bill Maher videos uploaded to YouTube by somebody less worried about copyright than about spreading the childfree gospel is entertaining if occasionally chaotic: Politically Incorrect, Childfree People and Children, Part 1 and Politically Incorrect, Childfree People and Children, Part 2.
Malaysia Airlines Childfree Change
No children under the age of 12, including infants, will be permitted in the airline's 70-seat coach-class zone, which will be located on the upper deck of the airline's new Airbus A380s… The posh airline will only allow children in the 300-seat main lower deck… Malaysia is the first airline to ban children from any economy class section. Last year, Malaysia Airlines banned infants from first class sections of all of its long-distance flights. (budgettravel.com)
3 and 6 Year Olds Crash Car
A large hole is in a wall of a Fairborn [Ohio] apartment building after a young child drove a truck into it Saturday morning… Fairborn police said a 3-year-old and 6-year-old were operating the truck when it smashed through the building's wall… The two boys took the keys to the truck while their parents were asleep in the family's apartment, Fairborn police said. The boys hit a pole with truck before crashing through the wall… (whiotv.com)
Do Parents Matter?
In his new book, Selfish Reasons to Have More Kids: Why Being a Great Parent Is Less Work and More Fun Than You Think, Caplan tackles the conventional wisdom about parenting. In a world of Tiger Moms and helicopter parents who monitor and agonize over every minor activity in which their children engage, the father of three says that parents actually have minimal influence over long-term outcomes for their children… (Reason.tv.)
No Kidding!
No Kidding! International is an international non-profit social club created for singles and couples who have never had children… There are numerous chapters in Canada, the United States and several other countries… The stated purpose of No Kidding! is to give childless and childfree adults a place to talk about interesting topics without being alienated by peers who consistently talk about their kids, and the opportunity to make new childfree friends. (Wikipedia)
Childless Women: From Pitied to Empowered
Off to Ireland for our final childfree gem, this time to explore the increasingly open dialogue about and among childfree women with — among other unencumbered women — unmarried and childless Cameron Diaz. After you've read "What to expect when you're childless" let us know what what you think about the present and future of childless women. (Herald.ie)
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Bored Child Nightmare
"A bored kid at home might be dangerous…" (Childfree Commercial)
Aside from the generally crumby quality of this video (Let me guess, recorded on smart phone from a hazy old school television?) the imagery is disturbingly hilarious.
Wait. Did I just say that?
Please scratch that insensitive remark.
The commercial for a kid's crafting book to occupy your bored child is amusing. In a decidedly sick way.
Part of what makes this video sticky is that you don't really know whether the bored child is pulling a prank or trying to help. Favor? Or Oedipus Complex.
A bored child might be dangerous either way. In fact, that's one small part of the concern with kidlets. Sometimes the line between prank, favor, and devious retaliation is blurry. And shifting. And unpredictable.
During a recent visit with my darling nieces, the four year old straight arm cold-cocked me in the family jewels. Bull's eye! For a few minutes I stood on the pier sucking wind and seeing stars. When I got my act straight and bent down to ask her if it was an accident she smiled and shook her head from side to side slowly.
"You hit me on purpose?"
Still smiling, she nodded her head up and down.
"Do you have any idea how much that hurt?"
Side to side.
"Do you think it's funny?"
Laugh. Up and down.
We sat. We talked. She apologized. And went back to building her sand castle.
I haven't the slightest doubt that she considered the sucker punch to her uncle's zipper zone a prank. I'm big. She's teeny. I'm a man. She's a girl. I like to roughhouse. She likes to roughhouse. We're both pranksters, and we've frequently conspired on practical jokes. But her 4-year old filter for sifting appropriate from malevolent is limited. And sometimes it can't keep up with her actions.
The video is goofy. And real. And sort of pitiful if you're willing to purchase a kid's craft book as a simple plug-and-play alternative to parenting a bored child. Lesson needed? No nut knocking, kid!
And then on to the next learning experience…
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Happy Non-Parents Day!
When I was in my early-ish twenties I asked a lot of questions of friends and colleagues that had kids and/or were married. What's the best part? What's the worst? Would you change anything? What are you not telling me? No, seriously…
As you would expect, I got a wide range of answers, and some questions in return. A lot of men that were then my current age, 40, cautioned me about marriage. No one with kids told me they regretted it, but several made sure I knew that kids would change my life and my relationship drastically.
Most repeated thoughtless shit they heard somewhere (everywhere) else.
"You have to work at it."
"It was the best day of my life."
"Marriage is hard."
"It's the best thing that ever happened to me."
"… a miracle…. a blessing"
And when I asked again, "how?" or "why?", they said nothing. I was young and dumb, but knew that skepticism is warranted whenever people are saying the same damn meaningless things, repeatedly. And what the hell does "marriage is hard" or "kids are a blessing" mean anyway? Nothing! People just said, and say, what the culture tells them they should say.
Looking back on this non-parents day, I want to thank those that were honest with me. I also want to express some regret that I didn't really have any committed childfree adults to talk to. So I also want to encourage readers to share (in the comments or on Facebook) their most bare, honest answer to:
"For you, what is the best thing about being child-free?"
Because I know there are young people out there with no one to ask or no one that will respond honestly; and because I think all of us should be able to note, today at the very least, why we are celebrating.
Related articles:
August 1st Happy Non-Parents Day! – (whynokids.com)
Childfree? Really? Common Questions and Comments (Part 3) (whynokids.com)
Childfree? Really? Common Questions and Comments (Part 2) (whynokids.com)
Childfree News: From Tubal Ligation to the Baby Matrix
Drowning beneath the avalanche of childfree news? It's staggering how quickly and widely childfree news has been transformed from whisper-only taboo to mainstream media fodder. So much is being pondered and debated, it'd hard to believe that even a few years ago childfree news was so hush-hush that television, newspapers and magazines didn't want to touch it with a ten foot pole.
Childfree News Glut
Today we're awash in childfree news, and not just in the blogosphere. Mainstream media finally read that memo about more and more couples are opting to remain childfree by choice. Concerned about spiraling audiences, niche audiences took on a sexier appeal. Result? It's tough to find a new outlet who isn't flogging the childfree news horse. It's always fun to swing from the fringe to the mainstream, at least at first, but it's actually become challenging to keep up with the latest childfree news because there's just so much of it.
We'll attempt to distill the best from the rest, making it that much easier for you to join the childfree intelligentsia! Or at least wile away a sleepy afternoon at the office…
Top Childfree News
Sterilize Me, Please: Why is it so difficult for young women to get their tubes tied? (By J. Bryan Lowder) There are some people who don't want to have kids. Then there are some people who really don't want to have kids… some men and women never heed (or even feel) the tick of the biological clock. But others are more proactive. Monica Trombley is in the latter camp… [she] decided at the age of 26 that permanent sterilization by tubal ligation—a procedure colloquially called "getting your tubes tied"—was the right choice for her. But as Trombley quickly learned, many gynecologists disagreed. (Slate Magazine)
I Wish I'd Never Had Children (By Sonja Ebbels) Over coffee with a group of friends recently, there was an understanding atmosphere when one of the mums, a close friend of mine, started discussing the struggle she was having with her children. We all nodded sympathetically and sighed with agreement, until she announced that if she had her time over again, she wouldn't have had children. At once each of us looked around, ensuring our children hadn't heard her comment. (Stuff.co.nz)
Please, Please, Please: Do Not Make Your Kid The Center Of Your Universe (By Cassie Murdoch) It's so hard to know whether becoming a parent will ruin your life or be the only thing that makes it worth living. We may not get a grand verdict anytime soon, but new research has at least figured out one thing: moms who believe they are the most important person in their baby's life and that they should always put the kid's needs first are way more likely to be unhappy. Perhaps feeding them like a bird or hovering over them like helicopter is the key to their lasting happiness, but is it the key to yours? (Jezebel)
I Want to Want a Baby (By Liz Ference) Having a baby would, of course, be terrifying – but at least I'd have the benefit of knowing that everyone else around me would be going through the same thing and I wouldn't be alone, and that my remaining days would now be filled with a very definitive purpose. Going it alone… means that I'd be, well…alone, and entirely responsible for defining my purpose in life – coming up with some reason why I'm walking the Earth and making meaningful use of my time. (Maybe Baby, Maybe Not!)
Accidentally Childfree (By Farzana Gardee) I never imagined that I would one day be discussing a childfree life, let alone my childfree life. I had never been taught to think of this as an option… My family is large — babies popping out of every crevice — with only a scattering of childfree women… They lead fringe existences when compared to other robust women speed cycling between pregnancy and breastfeeding and changing nappies and doing school-drop offs and living lives as full as their engorged breasts… And today, I am childfree. (The Huffington Post)
10 Things Never to Say to Childless Friends (By Charlotte Latvala) When you're an enthusiastic member of the mom club, it's natural to want your pals to join too. But making assumptions about your buddy's baby-making plans can be offensive and invasive—and thinking you know better because you're a parent can hurt your friend's feelings… Whether a couple is childless by choice or struggling to conceive, prying questions are likely to hit a nerve… Here are some gaffes to avoid with childless friends–and what to say instead. (Glo.msn.com)
Laura Carroll Interview About The Baby Matrix I want people to know what pronatalism is, its origins, and why it remains so pervasive in our society, even though in so many ways it is to our detriment. I want readers to understand why we have believed seven long held pronatalist assumptions for so long despite the fact that they either no longer serve us or have never been true to begin with. I want readers to understand why it is time to stop blindly believing pronatalist beliefs, realize their serious costs, and why it is time to move toward what I call a "post-pronatal society." (Laura Carroll)
Childfree News Recommendations
What are you reading in childfree news? Anything we missed that you think we should pass along to other WNKers? Please add your recommendations in the comments below. Thanks!
Dr. Seuss: "Celebrity No Kids" Funny Follow Up
WNK readers were amazed to learn that the guy who wrote the most notable kid's books of all time, Dr. Seuss, never had kids of his own.
We recently stumbled upon a funny blog post from our friends at "I Kid You Not" waxing in Seussian rhyme about the argument to be or not to be child free:
(From www.choosingkidfree.wordpress.com)
"Except in this version, Sam-I-Am is a chick named Mindy Sue who believes everyone should procreate and green eggs and ham are the little buggers themselves.
I'm Mindy Sue.
That Mindy Sue.
That Mindy Sue.
I do not like that Mindy Sue.
Don't you want a kid or two?
I do not want one, Mindy Sue.
I do not want a kid or two.
Do you want one in a year?
I do not want one in a year.
I'd rather shove glass up my rear.
I'm happy being childfree.
Now take a hike and let me be.
But don't you like kids when you fly
Even though they scream and cry?
I do not like them on a plane.
I do not like them on a train.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere.
Don't you like them where you eat?
Don't you think they're cute and sweet?
Not where I eat.
Not at the beach.
Not at the park.
Not on an ark.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them anywhere.
Do you like them at the store?
I'm sure you would if they were yours.
I do not like them at the store.
I don't want kids.
But wait! There's more:
I do not like them where I eat.
I do not like them at the beach.
I do not like them on a plane.
I do not like them on a train.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them ANYWHERE.
But every little girl and boy
Is a precious gift, a joy!
Holy balls, give me a break
I just don't think kids are so great.
I like to fly and eat in peace.
Now please go take a flying leap.
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Childfreedom: More Happiness
It may be my imagination, but my friends without kids just seem happier than those saddled with parental responsibilities. Parents certainly have more responsibilities than those of us not saddled with all the daily feeding, changing, driving, homework helping and the like so it makes sense that they are more tired and squeezed for time.
Then again, those of us without kids often tend to take on more (work, volunteer activities, friendships, social obligations and so on) and people expect more of us precisely because they expect us to have more free time without the burdens of childrearing. The end result according to research? Those of us without kids are happier. Childfreedom equals happiness. Having that extra time to ourselves (or to give to others as we choose) really does seem to pay off, apparently.
Independent studies show that married people are happier than singles, but married couples without children are the most content. When couples do have children, their happiness increases dramatically once their children grow up and leave home. This is all revealed in a three-part PBS series called: "This Emmotional Life." In it, narrator, writer and professor of psychology at Harvard, Daniel Gilbert explores the endless quest of the human species to find happiness. The series features various celebrities and non-celebrities (everyday people, scientists, experts in the field of psychology and the like) with their thoughts and studies on the search for a happy life. Daniel Gilbert explains some of these findings in an NPR interview below:
"Mr. GILBERT: It really is true that if you look at the happiness of people's marital satisfaction over time, you'll see that the day people get married, they're extremely satisfied with the relationship, and it kind of goes downhill from there. Relationships usually are the gateway to hard work: the hard work of raising children, establishing a household, et cetera. The good news is it begins to go up again once children have grown, and according to most studies, it reaches its initial level, or at least very close to it, when the children leave home.
… without children, your marriage might be happier in the sense that you would report more daily satisfaction. People are surprised to find this, because they value and love their children above all things. How can my children not be a source of great happiness?
… although children are a source of happiness, they tend to crowd out other sources of happiness. So people who have a first child, often find in the first year or two that they're not doing many of the other things that used to make them happy. They don't go to the movies or the theater. They don't go out with their friends. They don't make love with their spouse. All the things that used to be sources of happiness are no longer there.
So yes, the child is a source of happiness. On the same hand, it may be that average happiness goes down." (NPR)
What do you think? Do your childless friends and acquaintances seem happier to you? Does childfreedom equal happiness?
Here's a sneak peak at "This Emmotional Life."


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Nutrients 2010, 2(5), 523-531; doi:10.3390/nu2050523
Beliefs and Attitudes toward Vegetarian Lifestyle across Generations
1 Department of Nutrition and Wellness, Andrews University, 8475 University Boulevard–Marsh Hall 313, Berrien Springs, MI 49104-0210, USA 2 Department of Educational & Counseling Psychology, Andrews University, 4195 Administration Drive–Bell Hall 159, Berrien Springs, MI 49104-0104, USA
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AbstractThe objective of the study was to examine whether reasons to adopt vegetarian lifestyle differ significantly among generations. Using a Food Frequency Questionnaire (FFQ), we identified that 4% of the participants were vegans, 25% lacto-ovo-vegetarians, 4% pesco-vegetarians and 67% non-vegetarian. Younger people significantly agreed more with the moral reason and with the environmental reason. People ages 41–60 significantly agreed more with the health reason. There are significant differences across generations as to why people choose to live a vegetarian lifestyle.
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Iowa Learning Farms' July webinar focuses on growing miscanthus for biofuel energy
Ames, Iowa— The Iowa Learning Farms' (ILF) July webinar, to be held Wednesday, July 20 at Noon, will feature Emily Heaton, who will present "Giant Miscanthus and other perennial energy crops." The webinar is part of a series, hosted by ILF, held on the third Wednesday of each month. The webinars are held over the noon hour through Adobe Connect. All that is needed to participate is a computer with Internet access.
Emily Heaton is an assistant professor of agronomy at Iowa State University, focusing on biomass crop production and physiology. While pursuing her doctorate in crop sciences at the University of Illinois, she pioneered and led research comparing the biomass production of Miscanthus and switchgrass in the U.S., research that indicated Miscanthus could produce 250 percent more ethanol than corn, without requiring additional land. Heaton joined ISU from Ceres, a plant genetics company in California that specializes in biomass crop breeding for fuel. At Iowa State, Heaton focuses on best management practices for perennial energy crops, with particular emphasis on Miscanthus and switchgrass.
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Animals 2013, 3(3), 907-922; doi:10.3390/ani3030907
Critical Analysis of Assessment Studies of the Animal Ethics Review Process†
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Simple Summary: In many countries, the approval of animal research projects depends on the decisions of the ethics committees which review the projects. Since the efficiency of the protection of experimental animals greatly depends on the performance of the ethics committees, its regular assessment is crucial. This paper reviews the results of studies assessing the performance of the ethics committees, and emphasizes the importance of outcome assessment in the evaluation of the performance of ethics committees.
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|"Doctor Who" #1 on sale in June
At the IDW Publishing 10th Anniversary Celebration and Road Ahead panel Saturday at this yearâs New York Comic Con, Editor-in-Chief Chris Ryall shared news that the publisher would be boarding the TARDIS to keep things moving forward. With the critically acclaimed Doctor Who miniseries âThe Forgottenâ now complete, British writer Tony Leeâs next project is a 22-page story called âDoctor Who: The Time Machination.â
While the one-shot, featuring art by indie legend Paul Grist (âJack Staffâ), had the New York crowd excited, the next announcement was what had them wishing they could leap into the future like a Time Lord. Ryall announced Lee was writing a new âDoctor Whoâ ongoing monthly with a rotating team of artists. The title launches in July.
CBR News caught up with Lee in New York to ask about the series, specifically who the Doctor would be and who would ride shotgun aboard the TARDIS.
CBR: Tony, the big news for Whovians coming out of New York Comic Con was that you are writing a âDoctor Whoâ ongoing monthly for IDW Publishing. How did you ever get the BBC to agree to that one?
Tony Lee: I didnât. This is the thing: IDW got the license about two years ago and they did the six-parter with Gary Russell. They then asked me to do a six-parter, which was âThe Forgotten.â âThe Agent Provocateur,â which was Gary Russellâs miniseries, went down really well, but for some reason âThe Forgottenâ just checked peopleâs boxes. I have had so many people come up to me and tell me how much they enjoyed it over the last couple of days. I even believe the first three issues are sold out, totally, IDW doesnât even have back issues left.
So I started doing some other bits and pieces and then one day Chris Ryall said, âHey, do you want to do another story?â And of course I said, âYeah sure, why not?â And I pitched him another six-parter and then the following day, I was speaking to Chris about something else and he made a comment about an ongoing. I said, âI would totally put my hat in the ring for that.â And he was like, âDuh. Youâre the writer.â I thought he wanted me to a pitch a six-parter but he wanted me to pitch the series.
And so I said, âDonât give the BBC what I gave youâ and I went off and wrote this 6,500-word pitch. It was basically how I saw an ongoing working, how I saw things changing and about 18 issuesâ worth of plot ideas. And then he sent it to the BBC. And the BBC came back with a couple of changes. They wanted a character removed and some more information about something else and I turned it back in. I wasnât too sure what happened but the next thing I know, itâs the day before the panel and Chris is saying, âYeah, weâre announcing it tomorrow.â Weâve got the art team. Itâs all sorted. The first issue is coming out in July.
The problem they have always had with the âDoctor Whoâ books, generally, is that weâve had to keep bouncing around with the artists. Pia had [a very close friend pas away] that affected her during âThe Forgotten,â which delayed the book, so they had a fill-in artist and then the second artist couldnât do the third issue in time, so they had to do another fill-in artist and itâs been an ongoing problem like this.
So one of the things weâre doing with this series is that weâre having a variety of two-part stories intermingled with three and four-parters and basically weâre going to make sure we have enough art teams involved so that we never miss an issue, so that weâre always on time. So the first two-part Iâm writing is for Al Davidson, who is obviously a very recognizable name in comics. Heâs done Vertigo, heâs done Dark Horse. But at the same time, Iâm also writing #3 so we can have the two parts hit the art teams at the same time.
And it was announced at the IDW panel that the Doctor starts as David Tennant and regenerates into Matt Smith, right?
The general plan, at the moment, is it starts with David Tennant and itâs going to be a season. Itâs hopefully going to be an 18-issue season. And thereâs a reason why we only pitched 18 to start with and thatâs because it brings us to a natural break which will be about seven months into the television career of Matthew Smith. Because Matt Smithâs run as the Doctor basically comes in around March/April 2010 on the BBC, our final Tennant story will hopefully be out around November 2010, the artists will have enough time to see what Matt Smith is going to look like, it gives me enough time to see how the new Doctor is going to sound and act like and basically, itâs a nice time to move on.
So the stories are going to feature David Tennant and theyâre going to lead right up to #18 which will, with luck and licensing rights all sorted, be the first with Matt Smith, the eleventh Doctor. And then weâll just carry on from there. Weâll carry on the same format and the current hope is that it will be Matt and whoever the fifth season companion is at that time.
And in the panel you said you will introduce new companions too.
âCompanionâ is a telling word and one we misspoke, unfortunately. Weâre not introducing new companions, but there will be characters that are pivotal to both the âseasonâ and the Doctor during the eighteen issues, in the same way that there are pivotal characters in each of the specials.
The problem we had was that when the second TV series (the first one with David Tennant) came out, you had a plot point running with Rose Tyler from the very beginning where you believed sheâs going to die at the end of the season. And then with Donna, you really didnât think she was going to be alive at the end of season four. And as it was, her eventual fate wasnât expected by anyone. So as the TV show aired, week by week you never knew whatâs going to happen. Itâs a great thing but when you are writing a comic and Martha is the companion in the comic, which is the problem we had with âThe Forgotten,â you canât have a cliffhanger involving her because everybody knows what is going to happen. Does Martha survive? Of course, she does. Sheâs in next weekâs TV episode. In fact, sheâs already left the series, still alive. So with âThe Forgotten,â we turned it on its head. We made everyone think it was the third season and then suddenly weâre talking about Donna, so this isnât a third season, this is obviously a fourth season story and then onwards and onwards.
So with the ongoing, Chris Ryall asked, âAre we bringing in Martha?â We needed to have a companion of some kind because with these one-shots weâre doing [so far announced are âThe Whispering Galleryâ by Leah Moore and John Reppion with art by Ben Templesmith, and âThe Time Machinationâ by Tony Lee with art by Paul Grist, with others to follow], some of them have a companion once more in the form of Martha Jones and some of them donât. But if we bring back Martha or we do something like that, basically, you have a difficult time fitting it into the chronology.
And weâve got these three or four TV specials that are being done and each one of specials are, effectively, the Doctor and a new âcompanion.â So for example in the next one youâve got Michelle Ryan, who was the Bionic Woman, but in the following one itâs another actress thatâs rumored to be in it. So weâve got this opportunity where we can effectually go this entire run of stories set between two of the specials. You donât know what heâs done between these things, and I believe only the final two specials are interconnected, so weâll most likely be set directly before those. He could have done hundreds of years of traveling and came back during that time. So if thatâs the case, we can create new characters that can get involved with him, even travel with him. We can build up an entire storyline and the fans wonât know whatâs going to happen. Fans will be able to look at it as a cliffhanger and they wonât know if the character in danger will even be alive in the next episode. Will they love, will they leave, will they die, will they become evil or will they become bad? All of these things can possibly happen. And what is it that happens that makes the Doctor go off on his own once more before he regenerates at the end of the specials?
And so we get to play with all this. Itâs just amazing. And thatâs one of the reasons I wanted to do the stories without established companions more than anything else. It brings back the unpredictability.
In terms of villains, are we going to see classic villains or are you creating new ones specifically for this series?
Basically, we wanted to try and keep some old characters in, which is one of the reasons why âThe Forgottenâ worked so well. You had new fans going, âThis is great. Itâs Tennant and it really sings.â And the old fans are going, âThis is great we have all the old characters and references.â And we kind of wanted to do that but at the same time, there was this level of professionalism versus fanboy wank. Because I am a fan of âDoctor Whoâ and I was like, âI want to put this in. I want to do this.â And there was this point where Gary Russell (heâs the main BBC liaison who approves these scripts as well as a Doctor Who writer himself and is involved in the script editing in some degree on most of the Doctor Who-based shows) actually sent me a message saying, âYou donât need to use old characters as a crutch. You are better than that.â Because we were discussing how we were going to put things in and he kept saying, âYou donât need that. Just play it cool.â Which is fine, but then you have IDW going, âThe fans love the old characters. Put more classic characters inâ and so itâs a fine line to walk.
But you obviously have to keep a bit in there because one of the things most people loved about âThe Forgottenâ was that we had past Doctors facing aliens from the new series.
Where do we pick up with the Doctor in the first issue of your new ongoing?
The first one is just a standard Doctor Who story. Itâs set in 1920s Hollywood and itâs the Doctor hanging out with Charlie Chaplin. After all, Chaplin comes from London â quite close to where the Powell Estate ends up, I believe! Thereâs a Jimmy Olsen kind of guy called Matthew and an aspiring actress called Emily who both want to help out. And basically, they are trying to figure out the reason why a lot of actors and actresses are losing their hopes and dreams. And obviously there are also some aliens and stuff like that.
And as weâre in the Silent Movie era of Hollywood, in the second issue, we have a massive, madcap chase where buildings are falling down on the Doctor, heâs jumping through windows and heâs hanging off clock towers â think Buster Keaton, Harold Lloyd, Charlie Chaplin, you get the idea.
And then we fall into an intergalactic, futuristic chase story where youâve got the Shadow Proclamation and things like that. And thatâs when you start realizing there is a main bad guy, and that they run throughout the whole âseason arc.â Theyâre the main person who is trying to screw the Doctorâs life up and we donât quite know why. You know pretty much from the third issue who they are but you donât quite know why or whatâs going on. They are a new character, but involved with an established race.
At the same time, we have races from the Third Doctorâs era with us. And weâve got races from the Tenth Doctorâs era. Basically, at the end of the day, with âThe Forgotten,â we wanted to see what we could get away with and it gave us a very large benchmark of what we can and canât do, and once more I walk that tightrope.
One of the problems I had with âThe Forgottenâ was when I was given the chance to do it, I obviously said, âRight, this is the only opportunity Iâm ever going to get to do this.â So I did the best damn story I could. I pulled out all the stops. I put everything I had into it and they said, âHey. Now we want that level of story again. And we want a continual.â
So I need to sit down and bring the A-game back for this. And if that involves bringing in fan favorites, I will, if it works in the story. If itâs because I think, âHey, people like Daleks. Letâs bring in the Daleks.â Well, thatâs never going to work. But if we bring in a Doctor Who bad guy from the 1970s because the character actually works in a story thatâs set from that era, weâll do that.
The ongoing âDoctor Whoâ launches in July from IDW Publishing.