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Session decision on a Moral Person
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- Dear brethren,
Back in 1999 after coming out of the unincorporated, independent
baptist church movement, and having been a member of the PRCE for
about six months, I decided to put to our Session about 15 questions
that were most important to me in proper form of church government,
business, lawful money/currency, being/wellbeing and a host of others.
I'm sure that all of you have posed similar questions to your local
sessions, as Presbyterians and Covenanters, and had similar decisions.
So for those of you who have already firmly grounded your doctrinal
positions on the subject of Moral Persons (as a court Session), I only
share this with you as information. I understand that there are
several ministers on this site, and that you may have already
addressed these questions with your congregations formerally. Perhaps
you have used more biblical references. Your Session decision may be
radically different than this decision, or only slightly different,
but those who reject the decision as totally unlawful because it was
completed by our Elders (as some might suggest are the most tyrannical
Elders that were ever discovered in the history of plant earth!),
please don't blame me for ignorantly or blindly following this
decision without a substantial amount of additional biblical references.
You have NO IDEA the amount of detailed research and effort I put into
my questions before they were submitted to the Session, nor the amount
of work my Elders did (as they have always done for me and others)
regarding this one answer on my question. Subsequent to their
decisions, we are always given a period to come back with further
questions and received detailed explanations. Most of the time, I
pick up the phone to go over my additional questions or concerns, and
usually try to prepare some Scriptural distinctions or historical
references that might reverse a decision. Nevertheless, I know what
it is like to have a decision rendered, and be so upset because it
went against my own presuppositions, that I literally gave notice I
was thereafter leaving the church.
Yep, formerally and specifically, I outlined my position and said,
"See ya, been nice knowing ya...but I'm going back to my little house
on the prairie and not going to stand for your tyrannical decision."
Within hours of my notice, an emergency Session was held, and a gentle
response was given to my hasty allegations and I was convicted in my
conscience, and by Scripture (and mostly by God's grace), that I was
wrong, Scripturally and emotionally, and thereafter humbled myself,
begged forgiveness and was subsequently blessed by the Lord beyond my
wildest dreams. I'll never forget what a fool I was and what my
covenant of membership meant to me (and does mean to me).
I'm sure all the ministers on this site spend the same amount of time
with each of their members working through questions of controversy or
questions of inquiry, and therefore you will know the work it takes to
answer sometimes just one question. The following are two of perhaps
a total of 15 questions I have posed to the Session. To be overly
critical of the lack of effort some may suggest that went into this
decision, I wish to inform you that I asked 3 additional question in
the same formal request, and the decision did not just address this
one question on a Moral Person.
I share this background because I know how much we are disliked by
other covenanters, and presbyterians in general, as I have read on
several public forums how alleged unfaithful and filled with legalism
we are, but I gentle reject these public allegations.
We are men and women just like you, and work through our questions,
concerns and answers in similar ways as you, whether you are ministers
or members of a congregation or independents. Some desire to throw
off all tyranny, or even the perception of tyranny, and submit only to
themselves as a lawful and highest court. As head of the household,
the buck stops there since there is no lawful and faithful
Presbyterian court in the world, as defined by them, in our unsettled
state of the church. Others submit to a local independent minister as
being their only lawful court. Some to Elders that are congregated
face-to-face as being an only lawful and faithful court. Others, as
myself, to Elders whether local (as when this decision was made) or
international and extraordinary. Therefore, before you judge my
questions, and my Elders response, as being unfaithful, tyrannical,
unbiblical, or whatever other labels immediately jump to your mind as
your read the decision, please take a time like I had to and work out
the Scriptures referenced in the decision, using other historical
references or formal higher court decisions.
Remember, Presbyterianism gives us the beauty to overturn a lower
Session court decision by Scripture and historical arguments or
decisions from other lawful Session and higher courts. If following
appears unfaithful and unlawful to you, whether it is because you
believed the PRCE was not a lawful Session court, then made up of 3
church officers ruling with Chris in the midst, then I agree there is
not much I can do to persuade you that this decision is not void ab
initio (void on its face). But, if you believe the court was indeed a
lawful court, firmly founded in Scripture and Presbyterian, Covenanter
government (as the PRCE constitutionally adopted the Six Terms of
Ministerial and Christian Communion March 22, 1996), then use our
biblical and church government system to overturn the decision.
If it turns into a private internet or phone campaign of how messed up
we all are at the church, then I cannot (nor will try) to address
those arguments and allegations. Better to leave me out of the
controversy and give me some alias name, like, for example, "dumb and
dummer said this or that". That way harsh words won't be attached to
either of us before the thrown of Christ, our final court.
Here is the decision on the subject...but remember from my previous
post I'm still doing my research on whether a lawful moral person (in
our case a international, extraordinary Session) can exist without a
written constitution. Sorry for all the long wind.
They were asked and answered in late July, early August, 1999.
Remember, I am only posting one of the four questions and answers.
"Walter wrote:
As a member of PRCE, I submit four questions:
1 a. What is a moral person as defined by man's law (e.g. Christian
common law, common law, canon law, law of nations, international law,
civil law, criminal law, military law, etc.) and God's law (e.g.
This question depends upon a multitude of particular circumstances
which are too numerous to be presently described. A "moral person," as
regarded by man's law, may change radically over the circumstances of
time, place and national religion. For example Compare the following
questions: What did heathen Rome, at the time of Christ, consider a
moral person to be, versus, what did the heathen United States of
America in 1999, consider a moral person to be, versus, what does
heathen world international law (at least those nations who subscribe)
in 1999 consider a moral person to be? The answer to this question
goes beyond the ability and time of your elders. To answer this
question properly, it ought to be referred to a legal historian, and
we very much question whether even a council of legal historians could
give anything more than a mere doubtful opinion upon this matter.
Please let us know more specifically why you think this is relevant to
your present business dealings. Presently, we do not see this question
being crucial enough to spend hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of
hours to determine a mere conjecture about what heathen think of the
definition of a moral person. We, of course, remain quick to listen,
easy to be entreated, and humbly willing to be convinced otherwise.
The question we can determine from Scripture is What will the faithful
governments of the future millennium determine a moral person to be
and upon which principle "ought" they to act?
To this we submit the following citations for your inspection:
It may tend to cast some light on this matter, to state a few of the
differences betwixt the obligation to duty by the moral law, and that
of the church's covenants. ***The obligation of the church's covenants
is distinct from the obligation of the law. It is not independent of
the law, nor separate from it; but the obligation of the one may be
distinguished from that of the other.*** Christians are under an
obligation to perform duties, by the authority of God in his law; and
they are, at the same time, under an obligation to perform the same
duties, by their own act, whereby they have bound themselves to
practice them. ***The obligation of the law is primary and supreme;
that of the church's covenants is secondary and subordinate
thereunto.*** The obligation of vows and covenants, both as to the
matter and manner thereof, may always be examined by the rule of the
law; but that which we know to be the law of God is not, as to its
rectitude and obligation, the subject of any such examination. ***The
obligation of the law is necessary unto the very being of the rational
creature; that of our covenants is not so.*** It is impossible for
them to exist, without being under the obligation of the divine law;
but the greater part of them are not under the obligation of religious
covenants. An act of the creature is necessary to bring us under
obligation of vows and covenants; but no such act is requisite to
subject us to the obligation of the moral law. The obligation of our
covenants with God reaches to time only; but that of the law of God
extends to eternity. By the former, we bind ourselves to sincere,
though but imperfect obedience, but by the latter, we are divinely
bound to perfection. In the law, God, who is its glorious author,
binds us to obedience, by his own authority; but, by our promises,
vows and covenants, we bind ourselves to be the Lord's people, and to
serve him.
The moral law is the directing standard, by which these solemn
transactions of the church are to be regulated. The regulations of the
law, concerning these acts of the creatures, respect both the matter
of them, and the manner of their performance. As the directions of the
law respect the matter of our vows and covenants, they indispensably
require, that the things we bind ourselves to perform be agreeable to
the law, and in nothing contrary to the precepts of the word. If they
are otherwise, our vows and covenants are null and void in their
obligation; and it is sinful to fulfil them (Archibald Mason,
Observations on the Public Covenants, see www.covenanter.org, emphasis
Thus, we note that all rational beings are under the law of God, and
thereby have a duty and corresponding moral obligation to covenant
publicly and socially. Generally, even heathen civil governments
recognize this fact although, as is common to tyrants, they abuse that
which is intended for their good.
The obligation of our covenants with God is also evident, from the
binding force of human contracts between man and man. It is a natural
dictate of reason, which is confirmed by the word of God, that the
promises, oaths and covenants of men with one another, oblige the
parties to fulfil them; and that their failing therein, or acting
contrary thereto, is a great evil. If our promises, oaths and
covenants with our fellow creatures, bring us under a moral
obligation, and bind us to fulfil them; must not our promises, oaths
and covenants with the most high God, contain in them a moral
obligation to perform duty to him? (Archibald Mason, Observations on
the Public Covenants, see www.covenanter.org, emphasis added).
Add to this the testimony of Thomas Sproul:
Covenanting with God is the swearing of an oath of fidelity to him. It
is the act of subjects engaging in the most solemn manner to be true
to their king. This was the import of the covenant entered into by the
kingdom of Judah at the inauguration of Joash: "And Jehoiada made a
covenant between the Lord, and the king and the people, that they
should be the Lord's people." 2 Kings, 11:17. God's right to men is
not based on any conventional arrangement between him and them. It is
original and absolute. "All souls are mine." "It is he that made us,
and not we ourselves, we are his people." It is however their
indispensable duty, as rational and moral creatures, to recognise that
relation which by a divine constitution they sustain to their Creator;
and to give all the security which he requires, that they will be his
true and faithful subjects. It is perfectly reasonable that
intelligent beings governed by moral laws, should give their consent
to that constitution under which Infinite Wisdom has placed them, and
swear allegiance to the "Lord of the whole earth," by whom it is
administered. There is something analogous to this in the constitution
of human governments. Nations usually require an oath of allegiance in
order to citizenship. And though the principle has been wickedly
misapplied, by requiring of men oaths of fidelity to governments that
are not in a state of voluntary subjection to the Lord and his
Anointed, yet the fact that they do so, demonstrates that men have
naturally, some sense of the duty of covenanting (Thomas Sproul, The
Duty of Social Covenanting Illustrated and Enforced, www.covenanter.org).
Though heathen nations, by the light of nature, understand that they
have an obligation to fulfil God's law, and to act responsibly, as
both individuals and societies, they, nevertheless, pervert this
precious truth into a means whereby they might attain to their own
selfish ends. Thankfully God, in His omnipotent power will change all
Sproul continues:
In support of this position we adduce the very remarkable prophecy in
Isaiah 19:18 21, "In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt
speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the Lord of hosts In that
day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the midst of the land of
Egypt and the Lord shall be known to Egypt, and the Egyptians shall
know the Lord in that day, and shall do sacrifice and oblation; yea
they shall vow a vow unto the Lord and perform it." Without examining
minutely into the precise time and circumstances of the fulfilment of
this prophecy, it is sufficient for our present purpose to show, that
it refers to a time yet future, and of course under the New Testament
dispensation. No "altar has yet been erected to the Lord in the land
of Egypt" "the Egyptians have not yet known the Lord nor done
sacrifice and oblation." As the prophecy is yet to be fulfilled; so
the promise connected with it remains to be performed. When "the great
city which spiritually is called Egypt," Rev. 11:8, shall have "an
altar to the Lord" in its midst and a "pillar to the Lord at its
border" the worship of God established in its purity in the church and
the law of the Lord made the main "pillar" of the political
superstructure when the inhabitants of the city shall do sacrifice and
oblation then five cities "the cities of the nations," Rev. 16:19,
"shall swear to the Lord of hosts." These predictions containing
promises of good to the subjects of them are preceptive. What God has
said they shall do, he commands them to perform. It is the duty of not
only five cities of mystical Egypt, but of all its cities of all the
cities and kingdoms on the face of the earth to swear to the Lord of
hosts to vow a vow and perform it. And in this way will "the kingdoms
of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ, and
he shall reign for ever and ever (Thomas Sproul, The Duty of Social
Covenanting Illustrated and Enforced, www.covenanter.org).
Thus, Egypt and most other political corporations (cities, provinces,
nations etc.) of this world will eventually repent, covenant, and bow
the knee to our Lord and King. Those who refuse will be destroyed. One
way or the other these moral persons will be brought to do what they
ought to have been doing all along subjecting themselves, for
conscience sake, to the King of kings and the Lord of lords.
Next, Pastor David Scott explains the Biblical concept of a moral person:
1. Ecclesiastical and national societies are moral persons.***By a
moral person I mean that each of these kinds of society has an
understanding and a will of its own, by which it perceives,
deliberates, determines and acts.*** An individual person, is one that
has the power of understanding and willing; ***the name moral person
is therefore applied to a society, having an understanding and a will
common to the whole body, by which, though made up of a vast number of
individuals, it possesses the power of knowing, deliberating,
determining, and acting. A moral person may enter into contracts and
covenant obligations; and these are as valid when entered into, as the
covenant obligations of individual persons.*** [Walter, this would
include corporations PRCE] Being moral persons, churches and nations
are capable of entering into covenant with God; and that it is their
duty to do so, I have demonstrated in the preceding section. Such
obligation, when constituted agreeably to the will of God, are
necessarily perpetual; for it is not the individuals merely of which
the society consists, but the society itself, as a moral person, that
covenants. In the case of personal covenanting, no one will question
that the covenant obligation extends throughout the whole life of the
individual; the same principle prevails in relation to social
covenanting: the obligation extends throughout the duration of the
moral person.
2. The church is a permanently existing body. It has undergone,
indeed, several changes in its external administration, but it is the
same now that it was when first constituted. The church in the
wilderness of Sinai is identical with the church in the days of Adam
and Eve, and continues still the same moral person in the nineteenth
century. The removal by death of individual members, does not destroy
the identity of the moral person, which remains unaffected by the
removal of a thousand generations. Covenant obligation entered into by
the church, in any given period, continues of perpetual obligation
throughout all succeeding generations, and that too, on the recognized
principle that the church continues the same moral person.
3. National society does not possess an undying constitution like that
of the church, it may be dissolved; and history presents a vast number
of instances of the entire dissolution of nations. But the obligation
created by national covenanting, extends throughout the duration of
the society, because it is a moral person; and if the perpetuity of
the obligation may be limited, it is limited only by the moral person
ceasing to exist (David Scott, Distinctive Principles of the Reformed
Presbyterian Church, pp. 61 63, 1841, emphases added).
Add to this the teaching of Thomas Houston where he further explains
the nature of federal obligations:
The principle of continued or transmissible federal obligation is not
liable to the objections that have been urged against it, and is no
novelty. We do not make our ancestors a sort of federal head as Adam
was to the human family, when we allege that our posterity are bound
by their engagements. This is altogether a misrepresentation of the
argument on the subject. The descending obligation of the public
covenants rests upon the essential character of organised society. It
is the same party in different stages of its existence that is bound
to moral obedience; and the obligation rests in all its plenitude upon
the community as the same moral agent, until the whole matter of the
engagement be fulfilled (Thomas Houston, A Memorial of Covenanting,
1857, p. 35, emphases added).
Finally, for a complete Scriptural defence of the necessity and duty
of social covenanting, we refer you to John Cunningham's book
entitled, "The Ordinance of Covenanting." Therein you may more
accurately learn the Scriptural justification necessary for making the
proper distinctions regarding personal and social covenanting, along
with the doctrine of the moral person, and the associated binding
obligations associated with such engagements. We deem it needless to
enter into Scriptural proof of propositions already admirably and
faithfully delivered to the church in writing. You will find
Cunningham's work replete with Scripture proof and accurate logic.
1 b. Can a moral person, if a fictional entity created by the unlawful
state, swear a covenant oath to the NC & SLC? Does the legal doctrine
entitled "conflict of laws" arise in causing the "doctrine of
Can an unfaithful man enter into an honest covenant with a faithful
man? Yes. We proved this in our last post wherein we showed Abraham
and Jacob entering into lawful covenants with unfaithful men.
Can a "group" or "unlawful association" of unfaithful and tyrannical
men elected by the people, enter into an honest agreement with a
faithful group of people. Yes, we also proved this in our last post,
wherein we demonstrated that Solomon, on behalf of Israel, entered
into a commercial contract with Hiram (an unfaithful, though, at that
time, peaceful king).
Likewise, a corporation may lawfully (i. e. equitably and honestly) be
created by an unlawful state where and when no unlawful obligations
are imposed by the unlawful state upon that corporation. The fact that
the state is tyrannical does not mean that they are incapable of
transacting honest business or covenants. If articles of
incorporation, as required by an unlawful state, do not demand an
unlawful oath of allegiance, sinful terms of association, or sinfully
entangle a moral person (such as in the case of a covenanted church,
in violation of previous lawful covenants, unlawfully entangling
itself with an unlawful and tyrannical state), then what sin has been
committed by such an incorporation? There is neither conflict of laws,
nor any problem relating to the doctrine of impossibility, when the
agreement between the state and the corporation is inherently lawful
(according to God's law) as to its specific terms and conditions.
Clearly, if the terms and conditions of such an incorporation is not
inherently lawful (i.e. inequitable or dishonest), no moral person
(whether individual, corporation, church or nation) may enter into
such an agreement without sin."
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Quick Honey Mustard Chicken
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Recipe by Karen From Colorado
Delicious fast meal when your in a hurry. Ready in 15 minutes or less.
Top Review by shortstuff
This recipe was very yummy! I had some trouble with the bread crumbs (I don't think I did them right-it's a long story) and so I just scraped them off and enjoyed the wonderful flavor of the chicken. I did increase the amount of sauce from teaspoons to tablespoons and just poured the leftovers over the chicken before I cooked it. Thanks for posting this recipe!:o)
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- 4 boneless skinless chicken breast halves (1 pound)
- 1 cup dry breadcrumbs
- 3 teaspoons Dijon mustard, divided
- 3 teaspoons honey
- 2 teaspoons butter or 2 teaspoons margarine
Directions See How It's Made
- Flatten chicken to 1/4 inch thickness.
- Combine bread crumbs and 1 teaspoon mustard in a shallow dish.
- Combine honey and remaining mustard in another.
- Dip chicken into the honey mustard mixture.
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MUSIC REVIEW; The Philadelphia Orchestra At Carnegie, Minus Concrete
By BERNARD HOLLAND
Published: September 27, 1995
The Philadelphia Orchestra, the remains of several maple trees and a new season were on the agenda at Carnegie Hall last night. What this distinguished ensemble played was very nearly upstaged by what they were playing on. I refer first to the phantom concrete substratum found under the stage this summer and subsequently removed, and then to the fresh new lumber that has been nailed over the void.
So if the repertory (Brahms Piano Concerto No. 1; Beethoven Seventh Symphony) and the conductor (Wolfgang Sawallisch) were tried and true, potentially new sounds that a new stage might project offered patrons a premiere of sorts. Curious listeners hovered all evening over this high frequency or that one, buzzing happily among themselves at intermission. It was like one of those bandage-removal scenes from hospital melodramas. Will the blinded victim see again? Keep unwrapping.
Reporting on the acoustical end of this story will really require an engineer, not a music critic. Acoustics is a science (maybe), music an art (or ought to be). I shall leave it to those who can isolate the sounds from the music and crunch the appropriate numbers to make definitive comparisons of old-new Carnegie Hall versus new-new Carnegie Hall.
At any rate, the after-the-beat chordal attacks at the beginning of the Beethoven Seventh Symphony rumbled beautifully. Everywhere, the Philadelphia's lower strings had a resonant afterglow. How much of this you choose to attribute to splendid musicians and how much to a certain arrangement of lumber is up to you, though to be fair, a supple floor can indeed become an added bass instrument when made to vibrate properly.
The concerto, with its gray-granite beauty, created a negative kind of acoustical test, for this is music that thrives not on warm surroundings but on cold, clear air. The symphony can tell us more; its grand echoes, the huge, sudden contrasts between power and frailty, seem designed with reverberation in mind. Yet here the quality of sound was so inextricably mixed with how this particular orchestra played, what it played and perhaps what the listener had for dinner, that separating out an acoustical impression is pretty much folly. When those first timpani rolls erupted out of the Brahms, it was time to forget the whole thing. It was time (forgive me) to give the Philadelphia Orchestra the floor.
One can make light of the circumstances, but not of the music itself. Young Ignat Solzhenitsyn played the concerto's solos with simple sincerity and a comfortable command of some monstrously difficult piano writing: never a false gesture, no theatrics. An apt and often-asked question goes: Does music need another young pianist? I think it can make use of this one. For his part, Mr. Sawallisch offered his young colleague something worth aspiring to: music making that is utterly natural, utterly genuine.
Concrete or no concrete, Carnegie Hall represents an escape for the Philadelphians, musicians who have been stifled by the dry deadness of their own Academy of Music for generations. Happily, this is an orchestra that carries beautiful sound around in its suitcases. Lesser performers will probably tell a clearer tale about Carnegie Hall's acoustics.
Let me at the end pass on a possibility suggested by a colleague last night: that if Carnegie Hall had done what it did over the summer and told no one, nothing at all would have been noticed. Complainers about the hall would have kept on complaining; defenders would have defended. CNN would not have called, neither would National Public Radio. Set the power of suggestion into flight and it will quickly approach the speed of light.
Photo: Wolfgang Sawallisch and part of the Philadelphia Orchestra in concert last night at Carnegie Hall. (Ozier Muhamad/The New York Times)


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Collegiate Prep - Chromebook & Google Apps Training
If you give a teacher a Chromebook...
...She'll ask, "What is it?"
Chromebook is a different breed of computer. It runs on Google's web-based Chrome OS, which is designed to be used with an Internet connection. Most of Chromebook's documents and apps exist in the cloud. And Google automatically provides 100 GB of cloud storage for every Chromebook.
You can think of a Chromebook as an Internet-dependent laptop that starts up super fast. When you turn on the Chromebook you'll notice the only native app is the Google Chrome Internet browser. And that's pretty much your key to all that is Chromebook. Everything else is composed of Web apps (email, photos, documents), or apps that run while you're connected to a network.
Then she's going to want to know how to use it.
Step 1: Connect to wifi (This should already be done)
Step 2: Login to the internet (content filter)
Step 3: Login with your Google Account or continue as a guest.
- Username: firstname.lastname@example.com
- Password: Hello123
Step 4: You can now use any web-based program by using the Chrome browser.
Then She'll Want to Try It.
Now that you are logged in let's start exploring the Apps. Open the Chrome Browser and browse the web.
Now she can browse the web, but then she'll want know what else she can do with it. So we'll show her Google Apps.
First she needs to explore Google Drive.
Now she knows what drive is, so she is going to want to save something to it.
Remember your homework? Let's add it to your drive!
She's really proud of her work so she wants to share it.
Use the Share button to share your finished project with the teacher, your principal, and any of your friends that you want to see it. (email@example.com and email@example.com)
Sharing is so much fun, she wants to try collaborating using Google Docs.
Now that she knows Docs, the rest of the apps will be easy!
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Colors' popular weekend thriller, Naagin 2 (Balaji Telefilms) will be seeing some major action this weekend!!
Well, that will be the death of Anky 2 (Manish Khanna).
So how will this happen?
As per sources, "It will be Shivangi (Mouni Roy) who will seek revenge by hitting Anky 2 with her naagmani. In the process his 'kavach' will fall down and the man will get exposed. Shivangi will take her revenge ultimately by killing him."
With this, the tenure of Manish Khanna in the show will come to an end.
Our source informs us, "Manish who is also seen in a prominent role in Pardes Mein Hai Meraa Dil (Ekta Kapoor's show on Star Plus) will have a major track going in that show. Hence in order to free him off his dates, his character will be shown dead in Naagin 2."
When contacted, Manish asked us to call him later.
Post the death of Anky 2, there will be yet another development.
Mahishasur (Vineet Kumar) will go through a makeover. He will get into a complete human form and will enter Yamini (Sudha Chandran) household.
As per sources, "He will come in as Mahish Suri, the boy friend of Ruchika (Adaa Khan).
We buzzed Vineet, but could not reach out to him.


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Elton John constantly remembers his life as a drug addict, whether he wants to recall it or not.
ELTON JOHN: I still dream - twice a week, at least - that I'd taken cocaine, and I have it up my nose. And it's very vivid, and it's very upsetting, but at least it's a wake-up call.
INSKEEP: The singer's new memoir explains how he stopped using cocaine. In that book, "Love is the Cure," John says he abused drugs and alcohol until after he came to know Ryan White. White was the Indiana teenager who contracted AIDS through a blood transfusion. His case did much to build public support to battle the disease. When neighbors ostracized the White family, Elton John helped them to move. Months after White's death in 1990, the singer was forced to reconsider his own life.
JOHN: It help me realize - it got me to realize how out of whack my life was because I was just - as I say - in and out of a drug-fueled haze in the '80s. I did nothing to help people with AIDS. I was a gay man who really, sat on the sidelines.
INSKEEP: After he finally sought drug treatment, Elton John started an AIDS foundation. It now makes grants to prevention and treatment programs. In recounting all of this story, the singer begins with his years as an addict, starting in the 1970s.
You know, when you talk about how your cocaine use started, you relate this story of being in your 20s. You're already a star. You're not using drugs. And you walk into a studio one day, and there's a line of coke on that - on the table, that your manager informs you is cocaine. And the first question that occurred to me is: This guy's your manager; what was he thinking?
JOHN: Exactly, good point. And you know, I've always - I was so ignorant about drugs, and so naive. I mean, my band was smoking marijuana for years; I didn't even know what a joint was. And I'd never seen a line of cocaine in my life. And I don't know whether it was bravado or - you know, OK, I'll join in. But my stupidity, I had a line of coke, and that started the whole process.
INSKEEP: And you know, granted - I mean, it's a drug; people use drugs. It was the 1970s. But still, I'm thinking: This guy was your manager. I mean, that - does that - what happened to that guy later on?
JOHN: I fired him. (Laughter) But it took me a long time to do it, because I was never a confrontational perso. And it took me till the '90s to do that.
INSKEEP: Now, you mentioned not being a confrontational person. I wonder if that touches on another subject, because you write about a long period in your life where you would basically shut yourself up in the house. And you say that it was difficult for you to even talk with people unless you were high or drunk, or both. Now, in the course of getting clean, did you figure out what it was about yourself, that would have made you that way?
JOHN: I think it was just - genuinely shy. I'd always been a shy kid. And when I happened - when my success started, I was incredibly confident on stage because that's where I loved to be. But offstage, there was no balance. I was, you know, the same little kid that went onstage. But onstage, I had all the bravado and all the - you know, the chutzpah necessary to do a great show, but there was no balance in my life.
And I always said, cocaine was the drug that made me open up. I could talk to people. But then it became the drug that closed me down because the last two weeks of my use of cocaine, I spent in a room in London, using it and not coming out for two weeks. And it completely shut me down. So it started out by making me talk to everyone, and then ended up by me isolating myself alone with it; which is the end of the world, really.
INSKEEP: Hmm. Now, the immediate cause for you finally getting clean was that you had a lover, you had a boyfriend who...
JOHN: Yes.
INSKEEP: ...got clean himself. But you also write that it had something to do with the years that you knew Ryan White. What does one thing have to do with the other?
JOHN: Well, because when I knew Ryan, I knew that my life was out of whack. I knew that I had to change. And after he died, I realized that I was - only had two choices: I was going to die, or I was going to live. And which one do I want to do? And then I said those words: I'll get help, or I need help. I'll get help. And my life turned around. Ridiculous for a human being to take 16 years to say, I need help.
INSKEEP: Now, when it came time to choose a song to memorialize Ryan White, you chose a very old song; a song that's so old that I think there's probably a lot of Elton John fans who had never heard of it: "Skyline Pigeon." What is that song, and why did it come to your mind?
JOHN: It's very hard to choose the appropriate song to sing at something like that. "Skyline Pigeon" was on my very first album, called "Empty Sky." And I chose it because I thought, at that time, it was the first really good song that we'd ever written. And it was a song about release and freedom, and death is kind of release and freedom.
INSKEEP: One other thing I want to ask about: You - in this book, in addition to talking about how Ryan White affected your life, how your attitude toward AIDS changed, how you became an activist; you argue pretty strongly against politicians today, American politicians today. You even talk about a - maybe a run-in is too strong a word - but an exchange of notes that you had with Rick Scott, the governor of Florida. What got you involved there?
JOHN: We're an AIDS organization. And whenever anybody's funding is cut - and it's usually cut, especially in this case in Florida, for the people that can afford it least, to have their funding cut - then we're going to write a letter about it. And we wrote a letter to the governor himself. We have to pay attention to things like that. We can't take our eye off the ball.
INSKEEP: In this particular case, you got a letter back from the governor's surgeon general, saying: Well, maybe you should play a benefit concert, or a series of concerts, to raise money for the program.
JOHN: Yeah, it's not my job to do that. It's the government's priority to do that. I can't do benefit concerts for Florida, for the people with AIDS in Florida. It's their responsibility. They need to, you know, do what's right. And cutting funding for the people that least afford it, is criminal.
INSKEEP: Well, let me ask the fundamental question that gets asked about issues like this, in the United States now: What is it that makes AIDS a matter of fundamental public concern; that it is the business of the government, as opposed to anybody else, to deal with it?
JOHN: Because we can solve this AIDS problem forever if the government gives the funding. If people are encouraged to come out and say they're HIV-positive and they're given their treatments, then obviously, the people who are marginalized - like intravenous drug users, prisoners, people are made to feel less-than - if they're given the support of the government, and they're given the funding, then it's going to help solve the spread of AIDS and HIV in America. We have to try and get rid of this shortsightedness when it comes to HIV and the stigma around it.
INSKEEP: That's Elton John, whose new memoir is called "Love is the Cure." And we're going to hear more from him tomorrow. We're going to ask him about writing music, and also ask what that song "Daniel" is really about.
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A court in Taiwan Tuesday sentenced the organizer of a dance party, at which an explosion led to the deaths of 15 people, to four years and 10 months in jail, a media report said.
The explosion at a water park in New Taipei on June 27 last year also injured 500 people, the Central News Agency reported.
Coloured cornstarch powder pumped into the air caught fire at the party organized by Lu Chung-chi. Prosecutors had said that the explosion happened when some of the powder came into contact with a powerful light on the stage.
According to Taiwan Shilin District Court, Lu admitted that he did not pay sufficient attention to the management of the powder, which posed potential risks to partygoers.
Judge Huang Ya-jun told a news conference that the highest sentence for "business negligent homicide" is five years. "Lu was sentenced to 4 years and 10 months because he has had a plan to compensate victims and their families," she said.
Dozens of victims' families protested outside the court, saying the sentence given to Lu disappointed them.
Yu Yung-cheng, who was injured in the accident, said the judgment was unacceptable. "How could this be possible? Many people died in the accident," he said in tears, according to the Central News Agency.
Some 429 victims and families are seeking 21 billion Taiwan dollars (649 million US dollars) compensation in the courts from Lu and related companies involved.


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- Broadcast date: 2016-Mar-13
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Well this is a good week. Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I am definitely thankful for a double dose of bleach this week. But first I am being forced to tell you that you all can vote for this months Featured Article, Featured Picture and Featured Quote(note: I am not actually being forced, I figured I would just say that for some fun). So vote for what you think deserves to be featured, just follow the Bleach Wiki:Voting. Now onto the chapters
So first, The Known. Nothing great but not bad. We finally get a name for the mysterious man, Kugo Ginjo.[sic?] I am not sure on the spelling yet. Anyway, he tells Ichigo that he doesn't know anything about his own family and asks if he is curious. Then Unagiya steps in and breaks up the conversation. Is it just me or does it seem like Unagiya knew something? Kugo goes outside and we see he is the leader of a small group. The girl has a bit of a Hiyori attitude to her. The guy is much calmer and states that they chose to follow Kugo. Ichigo is told to go to the Urahara shop and finds Karin there. Meanwhile Karin had been buying a bunch of Urahara's goofy products. Kugo warns Ichigo to not trust Urahara and reveals his name at last.
A decent chapter but not too exciting. It sets things up but nothing that big to look forward to next week. Once again, Urahara is seen as mysterious and we are not to trust him. I don't know, I think once again Urahara will be the good guy and Kugo will have something hidden. Unagiya interests me now. That look she had made it seem like she knew what was going on. It will be interesting to see what is going on there.
Now for the Hell Arc Special:The Unforgivens. Wow. Aaroniero and Szayel in Hell. Szayel wanted Aaroniero's glass to crack so he could study the fluid inside. Aaroniero wants to kill Szayel and is about to release when this guy Shuren shows up. Szayel questions where they are only to be told they are in hell. Shuren says there is no way out and Szayel attacks him. Shuren summons three warriors as Aaroniero tries to swallow them with Glotoneria. Szayel prepares a Gran Rey Cero saying Shuren is not important. After the Espada are defeated, Shuren says that they were not capable of opening the door and reveals a lantern with Ichigo's Hollow form in it saying he is the only one.
That was awesome and gets me excited for Hell Chapter. I think it will actually be good unlike the rest of the movies. It definitely has potential. Next week we will also get a tie in in the anime which should also be good. I can't wait.
Well now I must be getting back to my family. Remember to keep all messages clean and vote for the featured content, I have not made up my mind yet who I will be voting for so I can't tell you all who to vote for. I can't do that nay way because I've gotten in trouble before for trying to influence the vote(I'm innocent, I didn't mean to). Well Have fun everyone and know I am thankful for all my readers and commentors.


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Italy is a country best seen at illegal speeds and during four days in May, all traffic yields to the Mille Miglia, a 1000-mile rally from Brescia, to Rome and back, that honors the original endurance race that ran from 1927-1957. These days, the race is a blowout reenactment of the original, with hundreds of the world's rarest vintage cars making the route. We took a Jaguar and a camera along to catch every palm-sweating, police-escorting, fume-choking moment. Here are the highlights.
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Let me introduce myself. My name is Mark Sisson. I'm 63 years young. I live and work in Malibu, California. In a past life I was a professional marathoner and triathlete. Now my life goal is to help 100 million people get healthy. I started this blog in 2006 to empower people to take full responsibility for their own health and enjoyment of life by investigating, discussing, and critically rethinking everything we've assumed to be true about health and wellness...Tell Me More
There's been a lot of news from the Pharma realm these last few weeks. As you all know, I make a point of passing this kind of thing along…. Given the massive role pharmaceutical drugs play in our society's conventional health care, I like to keep on top of the developments. Speaking of "massive," first there's news from the National Center for Health Statistics, which released a report measuring trends in prescription drug use and cost in the last decade. Between 1999 and 2008, prescription drug use rose in all age categories, as did the number of people taking multiple prescriptions. Approximately 88% of people over the age of 60 take one or more prescription medications on a regular basis. A whopping 66% use five or more prescriptions. Not surprisingly, cholesterol-lowering medications topped the list for this age group. In those 20-59, the most popular prescription was antidepressants. In children, 22% take a prescription drug, most commonly asthma medication. In the teenage category, the number jumps to 30%, with ADD/ADHD related meds first on the list. Not surprisingly, what we shelled out for Pharma products soared as well. Already taking inflation into account, Americans in 2008 spent more than twice ($234 billion) what they did in 1999 ($106.4 billion). Against this backdrop, we also learned that two popular prescription drugs were shown to actually cause the very problems they prescribed to prevent. Telling stories and statistics, I'd say. What's more sobering, however, are a number of recent publications that illuminate the cultural and financial underbelly of the pharmaceutical industry as a whole. I think you'll find it thought-provoking.
For those of you who have joined us recently, let me mention a few things first. I'm not against medication. In fact, I wholeheartedly support it when it genuinely and distinctively serves the critical health of an individual. I love living Primally, but I'm firmly planted in the modern age and appreciate its myriad of benefits. A number of us (and our loved ones), I know, wouldn't be here without the help of medication at some point. When I refer to Big Pharma, I'm not referring to that worthy aim. I'm addressing instead the machinery that's been built up around what should be a straightforward, transparent medical enterprise – a machinery that too often exploits and subverts the essential therapeutic purpose essential medication should serve. I've written before about underreported issues like manipulated statistics, off-label marketing, questionable research standards, and the FDA's minimal reach. It's not about mass conspiracy. These are simply the facts. I, for one, believe knowledge is power. You as a reader can choose what to do with it.
That's why I appreciated a recent article in The Chronicle of Higher Education that a friend in the academe sent me a few weeks ago. Author Carl Elliott takes on "The Secret Lives of Big Pharma's 'Thought Leaders'" by revealing the staffing strategies pharmaceutical companies employ. The article focuses especially on the "key opinion leaders" (KOL's), who Elliott describes as "a combination of celebrity spokesperson, neighborhood gossip and the popular kid in high school." Within their academic circles, Elliott says, these big name researchers and practitioners have the professional clout to create inroads for the Pharma companies with their medical colleagues. Although the Pharma companies paint the KOLs role as "education," their more strategic job is infiltration.
Reeling in these types of figureheads promises a unique and efficient means for reaching their medical field colleagues. All in all, pharmaceutical companies spend approximately one-third of their marketing budgets on this KOL program. The industry, Elliott explains, lures big name physicians with big money (sometimes much more than they earn from their medical practice or research) and with the enhanced sense of status that Pharma offers (complete with badges – no, seriously). The KOLs conduct industry sponsored studies, but their primary purpose is to create buzz within the medical field through their personal contacts and their mostly industry-written presentations. (Stray from the slides, dear doctor, and you'll likely end up de-badged at the close of the conference.) KOLs also play a unique role in Pharma's skirting of off-label marketing laws. Pharmaceutical companies manipulate the employment status of KOL physicians to allow KOL representatives the legal loophole of promoting off-label uses of the company's drugs.
There has been public push back, however. As Elliott's article notes, last year's health care reform legislation included the "Physician Payments Sunshine Act," a provision that legally compels pharmaceutical and medical device companies to regularly divulge to the Dept. of Health and Human Services all of their financial dealings with physicians and hospitals. It's a start, but a more efficient means of controlling industry's reach would be for universities and teaching hospitals to crack down on these Pharma ties. That move, Elliott explains, is unlikely given the number of academic physicians and administrators embroiled in corporate associations. Enlightening examples? As Elliott explains, University of Michigan's president sits on the board of Johnson & Johnson. The president of Brown was a board member of Pfizer. So much for academic neutrality.
Other reports out this week, however, add another more disturbing layer to this picture. A public interest group, ProPublica, in partnership with Consumer Reports and National Public Radio have compiled and released a series of reports assessing the pharmaceutical companies' payouts to doctors and the public's discomfort with their physicians' industry ties.
Although the industry's financial dealings are still private material, lawsuits aimed at Pharma's marketing have required many of the larger companies to disclose much of their payout information. Although the details are scattered in public websites and documents, ProPublica compiled the information from these various resources. The result? A list of 17,000 doctors and $257 million dollars in payout. Additionally, the organization found that hundreds of physicians on the Pharma payroll lacked board certifications in their claimed fields or had been sanctioned by state medical boards for unprofessional (and in some cases heinous) behavior.
ProPublica's site allows you to view top Pharma payouts and even check whether your doctor is on the payroll of one of the listed drug companies. The researchers acknowledge that their report represents only a partial tabulation. When the Sunshine Act goes into effect, we'll get to see the full financial picture. In the words of a Coen brothers thought leader, "New s— has come to light." Indeed.
Thoughts? What do you make of the emerging depictions and statistics? I'll look forward to reading your comments. Thanks for reading, everybody. Have a great day.
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don't get me started! We are constantly bombarded by ads which take longer to state their side-effects than their benefits. I intend to stay pharma-free indefinately.
Any push to get drug ads off TV. That would be a good start.
Or even better yet, a push to get rid of T.V.s!! I don't miss my T.V. and I know I am not missing anything worth watching. I recommend!
In addition to the horror of the blog post above, the whole idea of marketing drugs directly to would-be patients mortifies me. Nobody should be self-diagnosing (either with an illness, or deciding on a drug) and then instructed to "ask your doctor if Medication X is right for you!"
I mean, this isn't like deciding to take more Vitamin D…
You're absolutely right.
Advertising medication makes people diagnose themselves and run off to their doctor to literally ask for that medication.
All I can say is wow…those slick bastiches.
I can honestly say there is way too much cash exchanged. Can we do anything, probably not. I recently QUIT a high paying pharma job to teach primal living and weightloss. Ethically, I could no longer be a part of something that treats everyone and everything with a pill. FDA regulates both food and drug companies, coincidence?? I think not. The fatter, more unhealthy they make us, the more drugs we go on, the more drugs the more drugs! CYCLE that needs to be broken!
How did you go about doing this? I would love to be able to teach the Primal lifestyle for a living.
Wish I could get my parents off pharm. drugs… they'd most likely be more healthy without them if their lifestyle choices were more primal.
Big Pharma, while creating meds that can save lives, has a dark side too, as you illustrated. Another dark side to that industry is that they make no money off of healthy people. Their next goal is for otherwise healthy people to take one drug or another.
Isuspect Big Pharma is in bed with the Junk Food producers to make people sick which causing them to take meds.
my doctor is listed on the website as being payed off by pharm companies.
People (including me) need to do more research on their doctors and the medical information they're getting.
This is one of the risky side-effects of a free market. People get conned into using certain medication by doctors on payroll. We just need to learn to do our homework before taking advice from any seemingly credible professional.
Don't be so hasty to blame "free markets".
Politicians are every bit as corruptible as anyone in the private sector. Greed and corruption are omnipresent, even where there are no markets at all!
But you are right: We do need to learn to do our homework before blindly following someone else's advice.
Free markets are what have allowed the knowledge of the PB to spread and propagate as much as it has. If you're anti-free market you've got more than one screw loose. Greed is good; it is AVARICE that is bad.
Perhaps you think Mark somehow does not deserve the wealth he generates for himself from his knowledge and production. Perhaps you think jackasses like Emperor Dumbo can do better by everyone, spreading Mark's knowledge in a more efficient, more efficacious way.
Perhaps you are an idiot, too.
Puh-lease — get off of Eduard's back and lose the "free-market good, government bad" oversimplification.
Both government and business are corruptible, as are science and religion. All human institutions are. It's when we fail to be critical of our institutions that they become corrupted.
—- Gos
Wow, that was dramatic. Charles is just making a point that there's more to it than market forces, and somehow it turns into "anti-free market" and "perhaps you think Mark" and "perhaps you are an idiot"?
Why do you think most Dr's have no idea how interrelated diet is to health? Big Pharma starts indoctrinating IN med school. Very sad but true. Drugs do have their place, but not to the extent that the human population is drugged up now. I wish my parents understood this too—as they are on ALL the pills that people their age are on—cholesterol lowering, blood pressure, blood thinners, antibiotics, thyroid—yikes!
I remember seeing an interview with a gerontologist who said when he gets a new patient, invariably he has to unwind all the drugs they are taking that are causing all sorts of side effects.
The elderly patient in the piece was feeling much better just taking the essential drugs for his condition. Lucky patient that found a doc that knew what he was doing.
The is a big trifecta out there working against us. The processed food industry, pharma and the government lobbyists.
Poor nutrition makes you reliant on medication and the politicians are lining their pockets with lobbyist $$$$.
It just goes to show you have to take care of yourself.
My biggest fear is that the lobby gets strong enough to start affecting our ability to truly practice a minimalist\natural\holistic lifestyle.
I'm with you. I try to treat health issues for myself and family holistically and it seems big pharma and FDA are trying their best to prevent it.
You are correct. I just had a friend's older brother become diagnosed with melanoma. He went to a holistic doctor who diagnosed and cured him. The powers that be have been actively trying to supress and destroy holistic practicing physicians. All over the country. Your biggest fear is in full swing my friend!
I checked all of my doctors and none appeared on the site. I would've been surprised if they were, as I've nearly always been recommended generics as a first line of attack.
And don't even talk about the money big pharma gives to politicians. They want to keep the FDA in check to do their bidding.
Love the Big Lebowski reference at the end.
Oh snap!!
I don't have a doctor to check because I haven't seen one in over a decade. This issue is just another in a long list of reasons why I will continue to avoid doctors and pharmaceuticals as long as possible. I too, am glad they exist, but I just don't turn to either one of them until I try other reasonable options, and I count my blessings that, so far that has worked for me. I know it isn't an option for many other people with serious conditions.
I'm not defending the physicians or the pharmaceutical companies at all, but as patients we are not blameless. Have a common cold, run to the doctors office and demand antibiotics, feeling blue, demand antidepressants, sore back, we want muscle relaxers. Your kid acts up in class, his teacher demands Ritalin.
Popping a pill is easier and faster than letting nature take it's course.
And FYI a doctor doesn't have to be board certified in a specialty to practice as a specialist….
Right on the money with that.
Not many people realize that most medication are nothing more than symptom relievers.
There is usually no treatment or investigation to underlying causes.
No continuing profits in a cure.
this is true. i am doctor. patients ask and expect an rx……. i counsel all day long when antibiotics are appropriate and not. the list goes on.
your last statement is not entirely true. a general practitioner may be able to practice without being board certified, but specialists ARE board certified…… otherwise we can't get malpractice insurance. now, it can take years to become board certified. after school, then residency, it might still take up to 5-6 years before you are board certified and not just "board eligible". just f.y.i…….
I work in the physician credentialing field, you'd be surprised at what some docs will try to get by with.
Conventional doctors are taught to trust modern medicine in med school. I don't think they have much exposure to a holistic approach.
It's sad but that may be a function of pharma contributions to the education sector.
Since Big Pharma and all the corruption associated with it was created by the FDA, why would you want to give it more power?
Right, because there was totally nothing wrong with all the medications that were created and sold and poisoning people _before_ the FDA was created to at least try to address that… yup.
when I had my herniated disc…my back doctor walked around with his prescription pad ready to give as many pain killer as I needed. When I managed to close the hernia with yoga back bending poses ( a long and sometimes painful therapy) he was quite amazed…and asked me if In needed any more pain killers..!!
Could you elaborate on how you were able to reverse your herniate disk, Richard? Are there particular yoga poses or a particular style of yoga that worked for you? How often did you do it? Any details would be appreciated. Thank you!
Just Google yoga poses for back pain. Thats what I did. When I started, and was in tender state, I did it once a day, in the morning, As I improved I did it twice a day. I have been practicing for a long time. I do not know if you practice, but simple back bends done gently on the floor (locust pose) and knee to waist leg raise were the primary poses.
agreed………sometimes, i think generics are fine and are equivalent "enough." and, i certainly understand $$ being an issue, but there are instances where generics are not necessarily the same. there can be as much as 25% leeway in drug concentration and impurities between some name brands and generics.
She's got to feed the monkey.
It's "Coen" Mark
Well, like what everyone else has said, ditto. I haven't seen a doctor since getting diagnosed with this strange Metabolic Syndrome X, No explanation why, how, how to fix or how to anything. simply take this fiber pill for the rest of my life and all will be better. never took it and never went back.
You are right sir.
Yah…. then we have the big name people like Dr. Oz hustlin the swine flu vaccination on us, and he is invested in the makers of the swine flu…
Disturbing… but not surprising
Funny, I brought up this topic with my wife, who is not as.."fanatic" about these issues as I am. She simply responded "when did you ever think a big corporation has your best interest in mind"! Simply put.
I've known this for a long time. I always assumed that if a medical provider was pushing a name-brand med there was something in it for him/her. I'm over 65 and still take no meds whatsoever. Heck, it's even hard for me to remember to take my vitamins!
Is this just the U.S. or do other countries with where they have more centralize medicine have this problem too. I would think not as much as medication cost are shared by the public. Just a thought.
again….totally agree. the pharmacies are a big part of big pharma….
You need to do some research…this is untrue. They use a great deal of their money on research. I agree with you on retail pharmacies.
Why is no one mentioning insurance companies in all this mess. If you want to see who controls the drugs in the world today it is them. It is scary.
In addition to PB you may be interested in the work of Linus Pauling and his protocol for heart disease (both prevention and remediation). Reference http://www.vitamincfoundation.org. Best of luck in helping your parents!
thank you! well said. i agree with both your points!
Sigh. I agree that people want the easy way out…
…but, who fed them that mentality? I suspect big pharma noticed this characteristic and capitalized on it which reinforces it. I blame both.
Amen! People want the quick fix..no one seems willing to work for anything anymore!
Someone recently asked me: "Why can't they just make a pill to supply all the nutrition we need?"
He'd prefer to just take a pill for every meal, instead of having to go food shopping, then go through all the trouble to prepare, cook, eat the meal, then clean dishes.
He didn't understand why "science" can't deliver this yet.
On a related note, he's still waiting for "science" to deliver a magic pill that can undo all the damage caused by junk food – allowing us to eat all the junk food we want without consequence.
Wow! What an amazing story! I am so impressed and think you are a fantastic role model. Way to go Lara!!
Everyone should watch the documentary "Your Are What You Eat". Mark's article is a great supplement to the film's message.
I couldn't find this documentary. Do you have any additional info such as the producer or director? Thanks.
how about a preview function?
Meghan after reading your message just watched the documentary you mentioned. Its pretty disturbing stuff.
I guess the "just say no to drugs" thing never caught on, huh?
I did have a couple of studies where the material used was funded by drug companies, and have gotten a few pens and writing pads, but that's it. I guess I'm old school, but being a doctor has importance to me and I will not compromise that.
Take a PILL….anything else is like, too much work.
Yes about 10 years ago I was on everything from muscle relaxants to antibiotics to anti-fungals, you name it. My Dr. would write me an RX every visit even when I said I don't want to take any more pills for God's sake! He would call in the prescript. himself to a little pharmacy across the street and he would never give you an choice to go to your pharmacy of choice. I finally stopped going there but the kickbacks he was getting he never tried to hide. It was pretty obvious.
Isn't it interesting that NPR did a piece on this on Friday (10/22/2010) and quoted info from Pharma. Mark, how timely.
Here's the link on NPR: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1150
maybe I should have refined my search: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130730104
Or maybe because it was pledge drive week?
I agree totally. We don't need all these drugs to keep our cholesterol down or get our blood pressure under control. I believe we can control most of our health problems through diet and exercise. Great book Mark, very inspirational. Check out my blog too, http://www.leanbodyblog.com .


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