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Call in and ask.
I'm pretty sure this is my last month of the plan, but if I'm wrong, I have another year left (basically, I think my three years are up, but I could have miscounted and it's only been two years).
Anyways, ya, I NEED to know. Problem associated with this below:
I have a corp plan with Bell. During the first little while of my plan, Bell sent me a mail saying that at the end of my plan, they would start charging me full price (so something like $100). It's a little weird because my friend who got the same hookup said she didn't get that mail, in fact, she's been off a contract for the longest time, and still has the plan. Whatever though, I need to get this solved. Is there any way to figure it out?
Last edited by kenio8185; 02-15-2011 at 10:42 PM.
Call in and ask.
*611 ask a CSR, or if you have your contract papers the start and finish dates of your contract will be listed.
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Well, I went to the website, and got this:
I would call a CSR, but since I'm on a corp plan that I'm not allowed to be on, I'm always paranoid that they will take it away.
Anyways, I need someone who is an expert with Bell and has worked for them before to help me out here.
When I first got the plan, bell sent me a letter saying that a month after my contract ends, that they would start charging me full price for everything on my plan. I figured I would cross that bridge when I got there, and now I'm there.
Now, if I manage to renew this plan, will I be able to keep the corp contract? Or will I get screwed and renew only to find out that the corp contract didn't stick and I'd have to pay full price for everything for three years?
Also, if I do renew, and decide to get a phone with it, it's gonna be a smart phone. I do have data added onto my corp contract (so it's corp contract + data feature). I'm not sure if that counts as a data plan, so will I run into problems there?
Am I the only one with no sympathy or need to help people continue abusing corp plan they have no business being on? I'm sick of the rest of us dealing with use changes brought on by abuses like that. So no. Call in and I hope they nail you.
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Hey here's a thought, read the contract before signing it. Personal responsibility FTW.
You know you're talking about Bell here right? The company that tries to charge as much as possible for everything?
If they were a little better to their consumers, I would agree with you, but when you make your company try and charge as much as possible, then you deserve to be cheated.
Here's an idea. Instead of stealing a corporate plan you have no business being on how about you change providers then. I haven't had an issue with Bell personally but I do have an issue with someone abusing a system with no thought to others. You do realize there have been stories on these forums about companies losing their corporate plan because of cheaters like you who had no thought for anyone but themselves. So again, call in yourself and get help and I hope they nail you. Or go to the grocery store and steal something you want but think the store charges too much for, get caught, and see how far your reasoning get you.
The fact remains you have been stealing from both Bell and the corporation who negotiated that plan with Bell for its employees and have no regard or respect for anyone but yourself, and now you want our help with continuing to abuse and steal. Fat chance. Maybe you should have kept your contract if you were sooooo concerned.
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Unlimited Weeknights and Weekends (6pm-8am)
Call Display Detailed Billing Voice Mail
Call Forwarding Conference Calling
Waived Activation Fee
Total: $20 Unlimited data for iPhone: $30
Grand Total: $50 + Tax/Month
Ok, I went to the Bell store that gave me the plan, they said that my plan ends on August 17 (which is odd, because I remember getting the plan around February). They said they would renew the plan for me in a month when the Moto Atrix comes out (since that's the phone I wanted, and asked for them to order it in). They first said that I needed to add data to my plan, but I already had it, when they checked for that, they gave me the ok to get the Atrix.
I tried explaining things about that letter, but because of the language barrier, they just didn't get it. Hopefully this won't be a problem.
*EDIT* The person there said I would get $75 discount on the renewal. Does that mean I will pay full retail price for the phone (about $700) minus the $75, or does that mean that I pay the reduced 3-year price (probably around $300) minus $75?
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It would be the full price minus data credit and then your upgrade credit.


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The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) is currently working on a proceeding to develop a successor tariff for net energy metering (NEM), which allows utility customers with solar PV systems or other distributed generation technologies to receive credit for the excess energy that they supply to the grid.
Assembly Bill (AB) 327 requires California's three investor-owned utilities to offer NEM until either July 1, 2017, or the date at which the utility reaches a 5% NEM program cap, whichever is earliest. The cap represents 5% of total peak customer demand within the utility service territory.
This is the progress of each utility toward reaching the 5% NEM cap as of May 2015. Information on progress toward the cap is reported to the CPUC monthly and can be found on each utility's website.
Pacific Gas and Electric – 3.12% (learn more)
Southern California Edison – 2.58% (learn more)
San Diego Gas & Electric – 3.37% (learn more)
Customers who install a solar generating facility before the utility reaches its NEM cap or July 1, 2017, will be grandfathered into the current NEM tariff for a period of 20 years from their interconnection date. As indicated, SDG&E is closest to reaching the 5% cap but is not expected to do so until mid-2016. Customers should keep this in mind when considering whether to install solar PV this year. However, future changes to NEM should not be used to justify high-pressure sales situations.
AB 327 also directs the CPUC to develop a NEM successor tariff for eligible customer generators no later than December 31, 2015. The CPUC is currently reviewing proposals from industry and utility stakeholders. To find more information about the status of this proceeding and to join the conversation, visit AB 327: NEM Successor Tariff Workshops or contact Shannon O'Rourke at firstname.lastname@example.com or (415) 703-5574.


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I've just handed in my thesis and will (hopefully) be graduating with a masters of gastronomy (food studies) !
Where to next? Just wait and see!
There's some changes ahead and I will keep you posted.
To be in contact email gastronomygal at gmail.com
Have a very Merry Christmas and a safe and Happy New Year 🌲🍾🎁


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Algieri climbs off canvas to shock Provodnikov in Brooklyn
I saw that this article was pasted up as the headliner, probably by mistake, since the fight is over a week old. But, what is this: [QUOTE]Algieri - a college-educated clinical nutritionsist who has a boxer a huge draw in…Comment by C-SHO on 06-17-2014
[QUOTE=Boxing Goat;14670162]Keep your opinion to yourself. ESPN, Weisfeld, Lampley and one of the judges saw it my way so I don't think I'm too off base here. [B][COLOR="Red"]Ooops[/COLOR][/B]...........[/QUOTE] Weisfeld is terrible at scoring and doesn't belong on tv or radio.Two…Comment by Mr. Philadel on 06-17-2014
[QUOTE=O.H. Canada;14663170][B]My 3 cents[/B] $0.01 - Algieri deserved the win. He showed heart and determination while boxing well. He will be a hard one to beat for most in that division. I can only see him losing to a couple…Comment by Boxing Goat on 06-17-2014
[QUOTE=C-SHO;14668324]The problem is you dont know how to score.[/QUOTE] Keep your opinion to yourself. ESPN, Weisfeld, Lampley and one of the judges saw it my way so I don't think I'm too off base here. [B][COLOR="Red"]Ooops[/COLOR][/B]...........Comment by bojangles1987 on 06-17-2014
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Where Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao can retreat to heal — in style
Published 11:57 am, Tuesday, December 11, 2012
Boxer Manny Pacquiao just suffered a tough loss in the ring that has many asking if his 17-year career is over. Having won championships in eight weight classes but lost his last two fights, he's been asked to quit by his mom, his wife and even an archbishop from his home country, the Philippines. But no matter what the boxer, politician (he's a Congressman in the Philippines) and actor decides, he'll be able to recuperate and think about it in style in his 5-bedroom, 5-and-a-half-bath home in the Hancock Park neighborhood of Los Angeles.
The listing from when the champ bought it in 2009 shows a stately entryway staged with a grand piano, and other rooms in the typically neutral-toned trappings of a house for sale.
The trophy room, the huge family photos, and the painting of Pacquiao in his boxing gloves with a ray of light beaming down on him from heaven certainly give the place a more personalized look, not to mention the large action shots from his fights lining the stairway. Perhaps because the trophies need their own room, the Pacquiao's four kids share two bedrooms, with side-by-side twin beds in each.
According to the listing, the house was newly built when he bought it, tricked out with Miele and Bosch in the kitchen and with Haisa marble and Brazilian teak floors. It is 4,278 square feet, on a 6,750-square-foot lot. It was originally listed for $2.55 million in the unpropitious month of October 2008, but Pacquiao got it for a relative steal at $2.17 million. No matter what happens with Pacquiao's career, keeping this place in addition to his home in the Philippines should be relatively easy for him — Forbes listed him as the world's second-highest paid athlete — above Tiger Woods but below fellow boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. — with $62 million in earnings and endorsements in the past year.
Carrie Kirby is a freelance writer who recently returned to the Bay Area after living for six years in Chicago. Carrie is more heavily invested in real estate than she ever expected to be, since she and her husband are now long-distance landlords of their Chicago home, and have also purchased a house in Alameda. She posts about interesting properties and real estate trends in San Francisco and Silicon Valley every Tuesday. Carrie also shares money-saving tips on her blog, Frugalistic Mom.


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7 Rules for Making Retirement Investment Decisions
When it comes to retirement savings, many people feel overwhelmed. They know they want to live the good life in their golden years, and know they should save as much money as possible, but beyond that, many are just clueless. They need some guidelines, a place to begin.
Here are seven rules for making retirement decisions that can be a starting point for your retirement planning.
1. Start with a comprehensive financial plan
Identify your mission, vision, values and goals. "How do you know if you are investing the way you should? Through the development of a plan your goals will become clear. Investment strategies should support and compliment what it is that is important for you and your family," says Leonard Wright, wealth advisor, Northwestern Mutual Wealth Management Company.
Make sure though, that your planning includes the possibility of spending some number of years in a nursing home. "This will help you be prepared, and also help you assess if you should buy insurance or simply pay the cost of long term care from income and assets. Keep in mind whether there might be an inheritance that could be set aside to pay for nursing home care, or if you would downsize your home during your later years to come up with money for long term care," says John Hauserman, author, RetirementQuest: Make Better Decisions.
What resources, such as Social Security and pensions will you have? Say you think you'll need income of about $80,000. "Let's say you have a pension of $20,000 and projected Social Security at the age you want to retire that both have cost-of-living adjustments. You would then need to solve for $40,000 worth of income from your retirement investments. If you don't have a cost-of-living adjustment the calculation is a bit harder because you have to make up for the lack of increase from your retirement investments," says James Brewer, a financial advisor with Envision 401k Architects.
Figure out how much you will need in investments in retirement to supplement other sources of retirement income. You need to know how much to invest each year and what investment return you will need on those investments from now until retirement, as well as during retirement. "Without knowing where you need to be, it is impossible to know how to get there," says Jim Oliver, a CPA with Jim Oliver & Associates.
2. Know your core financial priorities
What is the primary focus of your money – growth, income, liquidity or preservation? Rank these priorities in order of importance where number one is your top financial priority and four is the lowest. While all these are important, one is always more important. For most people in retirement, making sure they have enough income to last their lifetime is usually number one. "Once you know your priorities, make your overall financial decisions based on your priorities only," says Steve Lewit, CEO of Wealth Financial Group.
3. Understand your asset allocation between risk and safe money
Diversity is key. Research shows that asset allocation explains 91% of the growth of a portfolio (market timing, picking the right stocks, etc. is the balance of 9%), says Lewit. The first step in asset allocation is to determine the amount of your assets you want at risk to market forces, and the amount you want guaranteed and the amount you cannot lose, he says.
Set your mix of stocks, bonds, and short-term investments based on your time horizon. To determine the percentage of your portfolio to hold in stocks, a good rule of thumb is to subtract your age from 110, then multiply the result by 1.25 says Stuart Ritter, a senior financial planner with T. Rowe Price. In other words, your asset allocation should match your goals, says Ritter. Shift from stocks to bonds and cash as your time horizon shortens, rebalancing your portfolio's asset allocation and diversification to your new target at least once a year, he says.
Be clear about your risk tolerance. "If you take more risk than you can tolerate to get investment returns, you will likely not stay invested consistently for the long term. Getting off the highway to your destination frequently will slow the time it takes to get there," says Oliver.
4. Remove emotions from the equation
Take emotions out of decisions by always referring back to real data, or using an investment philosophy that is not based on market timing or picking winners. Research shows that these tactics never work over a sustained period of time anyway, says Lewit. While your investing plan is not etched in stone, do not veer from it frivolously.
5. Keep taxes in mind
Match the right investments to the right investment accounts. Investment types with advantageous tax treatment, such as small cap growth, should be in taxable accounts to take advantage of lower capital grains and the ability to choose when to pay taxes on those gains, points out Oliver. Investments with higher immediate taxability, like high yield corporate bonds, should be in qualified retirement and IRA accounts to postpone the taxes until withdrawal, while Roth accounts are the place where investments have a potential immediate tax bite, but also a potential for substantial increase in value due to inflation, such as treasury inflation protected securities (TIPS), commodities or real estate for example, explains Oliver. "Smart tax placement of investments can increase your overall return."
6. Is the decision based on the past or the future?
Very few investments that were top performers last year will repeat as such in the coming years, says Jason Laux, vice president of Synergy Financial Services. "Be cautious that retirement investment decisions are not solely based on past performance. Do not let choices made in the past cloud your future vision. A bad or good experience with a past investment can be overweighted when making a current decision. New markets require new thinking and sometimes that means revisiting an older failed option or disregarding a past success that would no longer be appropriate," he says.
7. Control investment expenses
Avoid high cost annuity products, mutual funds or investment managers. Be clear on all costs and fees associated with the investment. "These costs are a drag on profits, particularly over decades," says Tiffany Washington of Washington Accounting Services.
Ask yourself whether you can afford the investment. Whether the investment is a vacation home, classic car or a market-based investment that carries principal risk, understand what the decrease in liquid capital or potential market loss may do to your future ability to live comfortably, says Laux.


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It is not too late to get a little more skiing.
The Aspen Skiing Company announced Monday the top of Aspen Mountain will be open for skiing and riding on Memorial Day Weekend, starting on Friday, according to a news release.
The mountain will open with 16 runs and nearly 90 acres of mostly intermediate terrain.
Uploading and downloading on the Silver Queen Gondola will be from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. The gondola will be running from 10 a.m. until 4 p.m. with last ride down at 4:30 p.m. for regular summer operations.
The Ajax Express chairlift will run from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. Open runs will include Silver Bell, Pussyfoot, Silver Dip, Blondie's, Dipsy Doodle, Dipsy Headwall, Summit, Buckhorn, Pumphouse, Tourtelotte Park and North American.
The Sundeck restaurant and Ajax Tavern will be open.
"We've received nearly four feet of snow since Aspen Mountain closed," said Rich Burkley, vice president of mountain operations, Aspen Skiing Company, in the release.
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Some Young Punks
April 7th, 2010 by Jeff
Wines feature in today's show:
- 2008 Some Young Punks The Squid's Fist (~$22)
- 2009 Some Young Punks Passion Has Red Lips (~$22)
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There were two things about this episode I want to discuss in more detail but didn't fit it in on time. Sorry Bovee, but it bugged me when you said, "Not the greatest wines ever but good enough." I am not a huge Australian wine fan, and many of them bore me to tears. But in my opinion, and for the price, you will not find much better that these two. If they cost much more, they would sit on the shelf and rot…cool label or not. In other words: there is great value here, and that is how I choose to look at it.
Bovee said something else that reminded me of something Robert Marx (my MT Global distributor guy) said. Robert said, "I have found that most people purchase them for their own personal use. Maybe some save it for a party, but many have drank them and come back for more."
That is my experience as well.
Let's talk food now –
The Squids Fist has brighter fruit and more intense acidity, but still fairly full bodied. Put that all together and let the dogs run wild. Honestly, you need to make the food to fit the wine. I did this roasted lamb recipe the other day and used a Crozes-Hermitage. It worked well, but I could see the Squid's Fist blowing it all away. The Passion Has Red Lips is completely different, and there is little subtlety involved. Big, fat, and greasy, you should enjoy it with steak, pot roast, or even stuffed pork chops. Then you can eat hearty and discuss the killer labels.
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NEW SERIES! For 21 years from 1981 to 2002 I attended dozens of Doctor Who conventions and events reviewing many of them at the time for various print fanzines. In this series of posts I'm reproducing some of those reviews which hopefully capture the spirit and flavour of what conventions and also smaller events were like. They remain largely unedited except for anything completely embarrassing! These are very much personal opinions of the events, what I saw and the people I shared them with. We start at the beginning (for me) with PanoptiCon 4 held at Queen Mary College in London in August 1981.
(Originally published in 1981 in `Steel Sky`)
So there we were, in Euston Station at midnight, Andrew Smith, (yes, him), Mark Crowder and myself when this bloke looking about as healthy as Muto stumbles towards us asking for money. There was I, having just spent about fifty quid on Panopticon IV and this guy will sleep on the stone cold floor of the station. Welcome to the real world. You may think your city centre is large but that's peanuts compared to London, as Douglas Adams might say. It is a huge teaming mass of people each to his own. You could be alone and forgotten in a crowded street of milling thousands. You never see London. You see bits of it and fleeting images stick with you, but every time you go back its a whole new place to explore.
This was my first convention and my companions through the labyrinthine corridors of our beloved capital were Mark Crowder, (who luckiIy knew the place fairly well) and Ian Mackenzie, (hot on ideas, but not on how to get there). Still we managed to find our way onto the Tube and finally arrived at the accommodation centre. Our sense of anticipation was soon replaced by boredom was we watched Ian McLachlan bravely try to sort out someone else's mistakes with the room listings as familiar figures milled about, everyone trying to pretend they had nothing to do with a Doctor Who convention. Over in the pub opposite a small band of people clustered around tables; Martin Wiggins tried telling everyone how good `Savage` was and, failing this, vanished into the raining darkness. Not an auspicious start.
Saturday morning- wet and grey and that was only our breakfast. Ian and I made our way to the station after failing miserably to extract any information from David Stead as to forthcoming events. In the tube, off the tube. A long walk through puddles to a small wormhole in London's splendour – Queen Mary College. No sign of Queen Mary, only a long queue and plenty of umbrellas. Inside, it buzzed. Human ants in a concrete anthill. Executives dashed about dutifully keeping in touch via snazzy little pocket intercoms. It was a weird venue really. We sat about the length of the Lyceum away from the stage, while the stalls held the fanzine sale and a video camera , which filmed the whole procedure and relayed the action to half a dozen TV sets up in the gallery. Paul Tarns spent roost of the morning moving people from the live wires in the front row and Mark Woodward made a classic entrance - in dark glasses, would you believe. Philip Ince, on the other hand, opted for a shirt which doubled as an incredibly long apron and wore no shoes! Mark Sinclair co-hosted the events with Janie Goddard, although nasty rumours suggested that David Howe was a little miffed about this as he had been slated to do the job. Sinclair was entertaining and as befits the head of the DWAS Drama department made all his announcements as if it were a talent show in Blackpool, starting in a deep, sombre voice as if he was to announce the deaths of all the guests simultaneously on the way to the venue then built up to a Shakespearian crescendo!
We all knew by then that the planned screening of `The Dead Planet` was to be a "we regret to announce" scenario but few could have guessed it's replacement would be the Dr Who and the Daleks film, a rather dangerous move by the organiser after the incomprehensible slide show. However things hotted up through the humour of Peter Howell and Dick Mills and the first appearance at a DWAS event of original producer Verity Lambert, perhaps the most successful woman in television. They then retired for a lengthy autograph session; you should have seen the length of the queue. Once done it was back to the zine sale which saw quite a plethora, (John Fencher's favourite word) of titles on sale. The last ever `Gallifrey` (sob), the regenerated `Colony In Space` (hurrah) and the aspiring `Steel Sky` while Andrew Byford tried to deny all connections with a zine called `The Space Museum`. Oh yes the Wiggins / Gallagher circus set up too and I even saw William Gallagher smile. Yes, I did.
The afternoon brought us three of the best loved characters from the Pertwee period namely Nicholas Courtney, Richard Franklin and John Levene. The chemistry that prevailed in the 70' s was still there and they spoke with fondness about their time with the show. They,too, took part in a lengthy autograph session and John Levene expressed concern about the Liverpool riots, (my home you see) while Richard Franklin and I had a short caht about his work in our local Playhouse Theatre.
The afternoon brought us three of the best loved characters from the Pertwee period namely Nicholas Courtney, Richard Franklin and John Levene. The chemistry that prevailed in the 70' s was still there and they spoke with fondness about their time with the show. They,too, took part in a lengthy autograph session and John Levene expressed concern about the Liverpool riots, (my home you see) while Richard Franklin and I had a short caht about his work in our local Playhouse Theatre.
Unfortunately I missed Terrance Dicks and half of Robert Holmes while queuing for the UNIT autographs. The queues were really a problem though full marks to the stewards for handling it well with the minimum of hassle. The best part of the day had to be when, following the introduction of Heather Hartnell, we saw the BFI clip of `Worlds End` which I had not seen and which was very powerful to watch. Saturday night was billed as a disco but that title was quickly and wisely dropped for buffet, when it became apparent that there was hardly enough room to swing a giant maggot. The room divided into small groups, who each did their best to pretend the others weren't there. Sandwiches were in abundance and eventually a record player arrived. Despite rumours that Matthew Waterhouse was to DJ, it was a rather tipsy Andrew Zeus to whom the honours fell. Actually, the rumours about Matthew Waterhouse began when he was driven into the accommodation centre, earlier hiding in the back seat of a car. We thought he had been kidnapped. We took residence by the speakers and controlled the flow of music emanating from them by bombarding poor Andrew with requests as most of the other people there did not seem especially interested in music. Russell Stone did his Davros impression and Mark and I played the drums, (well, not quite), while Stephen Crooks, (yes, your humble editor – I bet he edits this) looked as if he wanted to get out quick. Andrew Byford and Paul Hickling tried to bring sanity to the evening, a move firmly squashed when, from behind us, the shrill tones of David Howe singing `Vienna` emerged. Martin Waites decided to it would be a nice idea to pretend he knew the plot to `Castrovalva` (most of us are still trying to spell it!) and Kevin Davies left early. Mark Sinclair had `Flash` put on the turntable while Matthew Waterhouse turned up and left two seconds later. Andrew Zeus finally had one to many and was unable to operate the equipment.
Sunday crawled through the door and we trundled off to the college again. Paul Zeus could constantly be seen dashing from one room to the next. Frazer Hines was the first guest however was unable to stay for autographs. Following that, Mat Irvine showed us in graphic and painfully slow detail how he blew up the gateway in `Warriors Gate` and had K9 menacing Mark Sinclair. During another infamous break, a host of monsters paraded downstairs and we did our best to stand behind them so we could be in everyone's photos. Matthew Waterhouse blew his cover and sat behind one of the fanzine tables deep in discussion with Chris Dunk. The Fanzine Awards were then presented to a deserving Geraint Jones and Tim Dollin of `Gallifrey.`
In the afternoon came a most welcome video item, thanks to John Nathan-Turner and the BBC, clips from every Tom Baker story as a tribute to the fourth Doctor. An excellent set of clips that brought back many memories for all of us. Then, well hold your breath and count them: John Nathan – Turner, (with good news about the repeats), Janet Fielding, Andrew Smith, Eric Saward, Peter Grimwade, Angela Smitn, Jane Judge, Chris Bidmead, Sarah Sutton (who received loud applause even before her name was said) and Matthew Waterhouse. Christopher Bidmead collected the Season Poll award. Chris Dunk handled all these interviews with Parkinson-like ease, while earlier both Gary Russell and Ian McLachlan had done equally well.It was here that Mark Sinclair was seemingly winding the event up when the doors of the on stage TARDIS opened and out stepped Anthony Ainley to be greeted by an ovation that lasted several minutes. He walked to the centre of the stage and gave a regal bow. He sat down and inquired about the Test Score. Throughout the whole interview (conducted by Mark Sinclair) applause followed very answer and his charisma held the audience's attentions. Well, who cared that there was a one and a half wait for autographs. All were amicable signees and I was so overwhelmed I forgot who Eric Saward was!
So that was that. After a trip back to the centre and a quick pint with the some of the mob from Sheffield, Mark and I made our way back to Euston. At Tottenham Court Road who should we bump into but Andrew Smith whom we spent over an hour talking to. Our train home was a 1.05 am and arrived in Liverpool at 4.30 in the morning. Took a week to recover.
However it was all worth it. I'll be there next year and I'd like to thank all concerned for a great weekend. Thanks also to all those Liverpool and Sheffield people who kept me company and to David Stead, Andrew Byford, David Howe, Andrew Zeus, Andrew Smith and Mark Crowder. See you in '82.
Xtra! PanoptiCon 4 on stage
Summarised from the DWAS 1982 Yearbook review written by Pam Baddeley of the events on stage…
Slide Show – Slides were shown in chronological order with an often humorous musical soundtrack.
Dick Mills & Peter Howell – Demonstrating the effectiveness of incidental music by using a scene from `Meglos` when Meglos shows Caris the shrunken Dodecahedron, maybe not the most dramatic moment in the series' history but showing just how the incidental music plays its part.
Doctor Who and the Daleks movie screening part 1
Verity Lambert – She seemed to have retained vivid memories of her time with the show some 18 years earlier.
Nicholas Courtney / Richard Franklin / John Levene - interviewed separately and then on stage together. NC talked about his radio work and also that he would have liked a better departure from the show than he had. RF focussed on his theatre work. JL talked about having left the acting profession and his then current career in commercial graphics and also referenced his conversion to Christianity. All three talked fondly of `The Daemons` in particular and the `UNIT family`.
Peter Howell- talking this time about the show's latest version of the theme music. He explained how each element of the music had been assembled, this was fairly technical and left some of the audience somewhat behind.
BFI clip of `The Dalek Invasion of Earth`
Introduction of Heather Hartnell who received warm applause.
Terrance Dicks / Robert Holmes – TD talked about the novelisation he was working on at that time as well as how his script for the cancelled `Vampire Mutations` ended up as `State of Decay`. RH mentioned that books were not his field after he had tried but failed to write one of the Target novelisations.
Fraser Hines – told several amusing anecdotes including various practical jokes the cast had played on each other.
Roger Limb – discussed his incidental score for `Keeper of Traken`
Mat Irvine – talked about remote controlled models in particular K9 who himself trundled on stage as well. He also talked through the explosion of the gateway in `Warrior's Gate`
Monster costumes- made by Toby Chamberlain.
Doctor Who and the Daleks movie screening part 2
Current stars and production team – John Nathan Turner announced details of the repeats to be included in the forthcoming `Five Faces of Doctor Who` season and also details of K9 and Company. He also denied any old monsters were returning to the show (!). Eric Saward talked about `Black Orchid` Sarah Sutton, Janet Fielding and Matthew Waterhouse appeared as did Christopher Bidmead, Peter Grimwade, Andrew Smith, Jane Judge and Angela Smith.
Awards – Christopher Bidmead for `Logopolis` winning the season poll, Geraint Jones and Tim Dollin for `Gallifrey` winning the Fanzine poll.
Anthony Ainley – Cricket and smiling! Huge hit with the audience.


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The overall winner will also be added to the Brackenborough Hotel's bistro menu for a month, with full accreditation to the winner.
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A LATE run of form by Rory McIlroy ensured that he closed his second round at the Houston Open temporarily safe from the cut, but that could still change by the time the second round ends.
The Northern Irishman carded birdies at the 15th and 16th holes for a second-round 70, leaving him on one under for the weekend. With the projected cut set at that score, McIlroy had been facing up to an early finish when he teed off at the 15th hole, but two timely birdies gave him a fighting chance of sparing his blushes.
As he signed his card he was nine shots behind leader Steve Wheatcroft – the American on 10 under without striking a ball today – and the victory he needs to regain the world No 1 spot he lost last week looks remote.
As a result, Tiger Woods is likely to start the Masters on top of the pile, although McIlroy should at least avoid the blow of missing the cut, assuming a lot of the players below him do not significantly improve.
The only man to make a move on the leader last night was England's Brian Davis who shaved two shots off the par to move to seven under for the tournament, but still three behind Wheatcoft and one behind DA Points. Lee Westwood made a promising start with a first-hole birdie to move to five under, while Scott Stallings and Dustin Johnson rested on that score after rounds of three and two under respectively.
While McIlroy may have a wait to see if he misses the cut, one of his former Ryder Cup team-mates, Paul Casey, already knows his fate. The Englishman was seven over when he ended the day – 13 over for the tournament – and his hunt for form carries on.
Meanwhile, Marcel Siem maintained his three-shot lead at the Hassan II Trophy in Morocco after a four-under-par 68 in his second round to further boost his Masters push, while Scotland's Craig Lee sits six off the lead in a tie for fifth.
Siem, who is hoping for a strong result at the Golf du Palais Royal in order to break into the world's top 50 ahead of the qualification cut-off for Augusta, made seven birdies and three bogeys on his way to 12 under overall.
Pablo Larrazabal enjoyed the best round of the day, however, as he surged up the leaderboard with an eventful 64.
The Spaniard birdied his first three holes as well as the fifth, sixth and ninth but saw his score falter with birdies at the fourth and seventh holes. His back nine was a rather more sedate affair, although he still picked up another four shots to move to eight under overall.
Lee, Bernd Wiesberger of Austria and Norway's Andreas Harto were tied for fifth two shots further back, while Joost Luiten was on four under.


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As a couple that collects art, Dorthy and Herbert Vogel are one of the most well known in the nation. The New York pair have given their life's savings to buy art. They've already promised a vast amount of their collection, best known for its minimal and conceptual art, to the National Gallery of Art in Washington.
But they've just announced their new 'Fifty works for fifty states' program that be a windfall of art for the nation, distributing 50 works to a museum in each state. Though a handful of museums have been identified, the venue to get the Vogel gift in Wisconsin has not yet been named. Twenty more museums will be named this year and 20 more in 2009.
The Milwaukee Art Museum, which has minimal and conceptual art as a particular strength, seems a natural. But so, perhaps, would the up-and-coming Madison Museum of Contemporary Art and the John Michael Kohler Arts Center in Sheboygan.
We shall see.
In any case, it's a wonderfully generous gesture that every state can celebrate!


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Herman Cain continues to strongly deny Ginger White's allegations that they had a 13-year-long consensual affair, but he's thinking of dropping out of the race because, as he puts it:
It's also taken a toll on my wife and family, as you would imagine. Any time you put another cloud of doubt, unfortunately, in the court of public opinion, for some people, you're guilty until proven innocent. And so, the public will have to decide whether they believe her or whether they believe me. That's why we're going to give it time, to see what type of response we get from our supporters.
Whether or not you believe in his innocence depends on whether you believe that where there's smoke there's fire, and whether you think Cain's accusers have generated enough smoke. As for me, I don't know whether any of the accusations are true or not, because so far (and this includes Ms. White) we've not seen any evidence that I would consider powerful.
To be blunt, though, I don't care if Cain had a sexual affair with this woman. I don't care partly because I've never thought Cain's candidacy was going to go anywhere anyway (except go away, which it might soon do). I do care that he doesn't seem to know how to run a well-organized campaign and to effectively counter attacks, and that's a pattern too, and perhaps a clue to what the flaws of a Cain presidency would be. I also care if he's a serial liar, and if he went into this campaign with a history like this he's a fool as well.
You may be as tired of all of this as I am, but I still think it's instructive to look at the patterns here. Until now the accusations have been of harassment, but the current one by Ginger White is not of harassment but of a long-term consensual affair. But other similarities in the accusers (including White) are too strong to ignore: they tend to have made previous and/or subsequent accusations of sexual harassment about alleged perpetrators other than Cain, and usually have been awarded settlements.
And then there are the financial troubles. The accusers we've seen named have a history of frequent unemployment and multiple financial difficulties, sometimes even bankruptcy. White is no different:
Before [Fox in Atlanta's] interview, we checked into Ginger White's background. We found she filed a sexual harassment claim against an employer in 2001. That case was settled.
We also found a bankruptcy filing nearly 23 years ago in Kentucky, and a number of eviction notices here in DeKalb County over the past six years. The most recent happened this month.
Ms. White says she has been unemployed, and she is a single mom with two kids struggling to make ends meet.
But White goes the other accusers one better in the suspicious background arena—she's been sued for libel by an ex-business partner and lost. Here's more:
A former business partner, Kimberly Vay, sued White this year after a dispute that began when White wrote disparaging comments about Vay in a mass e-mail — comments that White recanted four months later as part of a legal settlement.
"She came back and stated that everything she stated in the e-mail was completely false," Vay said in an interview. "She admitted to making it all up out of anger and frustration."
None of that means White is lying about Cain and the affair, just as Sharon Bialek might have been telling the truth about Cain assaulting her, despite her financially troubled past. Recall that Bialek alleged, in her press conference with Gloria Allred at her side, that Cain had not only groped her (unprovable) but been responsible for upgrading her hotel suite (potentially provable). Likewise, Ginger White has alleged that Cain paid for multiple trips and hotel rooms for her, which would also appear to be potentially documentable for some enterprising reporter—or even by White herself, who could name dates and times that could be checked out against Cain's whereabouts. But neither woman has not offered such proof, at least so far.
There's no doubt whatsoever that Cain and White knew each other, at least in the non-Biblical sense. His number is on her cellphone, and she's got the cellphone records to prove that they have exchanged calls and text messages. Cain says that's because he had been trying to help her financially. That could most definitely be a lie, although if true it could explain some of the communication (and White certainly did have serious financial problems and could probably use some help; she received an eviction notice this month).
Is this enough? Shouldn't we (or reporters) demand something else—besides a couple of friendly but non-intimate inscriptions in a book, which she alleges Cain made? A compromising note would do; it's not necessary to have a semen-stained blue dress. Did White not save an especially tender text message or voicemail recording, as lovers often do? Were there no sweet-nothing emails?
And who was sending most of those 61 calls or text messages that Smith's records provided: Smith herself, or Cain? Fox in Atlanta, which broke the story, writes:
She showed us some of her cell phone bills that included 61 phone calls or text messages to or from a number starting with 678. She says it is Herman Cain's private cell phone. The calls were made during four different months– calls or texts made as early as 4:26 in the early morning, and as late as 7:52 at night. The latest were in September of this year.
If I were a reporter writing this story, I think I'd have taken a moment to count how many were calls and how many text messages, and how many were to Cain and how many from him. It would seem to matter: the more calls vs. texts, and the more messages originated with Cain, the higher the likelihood that there was indeed a sexual relationship going on here. The absence of such information leads me to suspect that either (a) the reporter is incompetent, or (b) the bulk of the communication may have been texting rather than calls, and/or much more of it may have been from White to Cain than vice versa.
But the following can be no surprise to anyone who follows the press and its antics: the WaPo blog gets this part wrong [emphasis mine]:
To substantiate her claims, White showed the Atlanta reporter phone records documenting 61 calls from a number that the reporter later traced to Cain. The calls were being made as late as September 2011…
And here we have examples of the lie getting halfway round the world pretty quickly: USA Today writes [emphasis mine]:
White also supplied WAGA with phone records that showed 61 calls or text messages from one number that she said was Cain's private cellphone.
At least the paper gets the fact that they were calls or text messages correct. Too bad it alleges they were all from Cain, although there's no evidence of that.
Then there's good old Politico [emphasis mine]:
White provided the station with bills that include 61 phone calls or text messages from a number that she says is Cain's private cell phone number.
According to the report, Cain called White as recently as September 2011.
So, are these pros incapable of even minimal reading comprehension (after all, this is not such a complex set of sentences and concepts, mostly centering on the meaning of the word "or"), or is this purposeful twisting? You be the judge.
As I've stated before, the larger questions here have nothing to do with Cain and his possibly complex sex life. They involve the standard of proof required when accusing public figures of wrongdoing or scandal. The idea now seems to be that, if enough people come forward, the quantity of their accusations can make up for their undocumented quality. But if proof could be obtained, why not demand that some be provided? Otherwise an accuser can essentially say anything she wants, as long as she's had some sort of contact with the public figure.


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Metro Councilman Eric Crafton and Tennessee State Fair Executive Director Buck Dozier are among seven finalists who will interview for the Davidson County elections administrator position.
The five-member Davidson County Election Commission on Tuesday voted to whittle down an original from a list of 55 applicants to seven candidates in its search to replace outgoing administrator Ray Barrett, who is set to to retire by the end of the year. The commission will interview the finalists on Oct. 28.
Crafton, perhaps known best for his failed English only push, received nominations from two commissioners while Dozier, a former at-large councilman and mayoral candidate, received one nomination.
Leading in nominations is Albert Tieche, who is employed by the University of Tennessee Center for Industrial Services and has previously received poll-worker training from the election staff. Tieche received nominations from four commissioners.
Other finalists for the job are Thomas Cunningham, Michael Knotts, Matt Drury and Lisa Powers.
The job pays between $65,000 and $85,000 per year, but the salary can bump to more than $100,000 if the new administrator passes an official certification test.
Buck is "THE MAN"
Buck couldn't even manage the Fair Grounds, plus he has sucked off the political teat too long. He needs to get another job!
A preacher and a moron walk into election headquarters...
Hello, Nashville.
Buck is the man for the job.
Is there anything Crafton has not run for?
Sure, let's give it to the guy who ran the fairgrounds into the ground and wasn't all that successful at being fire chief. Great plan.
On one hand we got a man who ran a fail Fairground and on the other hand we got someone that could fix election? I say no!! Let go with Albert Tieche, he has some training.
As the 'ole possum would say---Choices, choices
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First, throw out any politicians. Second, throw out any politician wannabes. Third, rank the remaining candidates from highest to lowest based on their ability to administer the department. Training as a poll worker by the staff has nothing to do with qualifications for this critical administrative position.
This person should be able to manage the staff in a professional manner and confront or dismiss staff issues and/or staff members as necessary. The departmental problems reside within the staff and procedures, not the poll workers. The politically appointed election commission has a tough decision to make especially in light of the follies of the August election debacle.
Hopefully some of the candidates have the necessary credentials to restore integrity to this critical process. If, at the end, the nominee happens to have poll worker training, so be it, but let's hope that's not a selection factor and that the training is forgotten before taking office. A new beginning does not start with adopting old practices. If we keep doing what we are doing, we'll keep getting what we are getting. Change is difficult to implement, but change it must. The system is broken and the commission must find a person who can fix it, and fast.
How can a recent candidate be a fair and impartial election coordinator?
Crafton calls the Republican Senators RINOS and tries to defeat Democrats running for office.
I don't like this pick.
I think I would protest very loud if Crafton is picked.


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Derek Holland has pitched well in September the past two seasons, and looks to build on that again tonight. He is 2-0 with a 2.17 ERA over his last four starts, and has gone at least seven innings and allowed two or less runs in every start.
Holland is going for his 12th win of the season tonight, as the Rangers open a critical four-game series against the Athletics.
Texas -- 1. Ian Kinsler, 2b; 2. Elvis Andrus, ss; 3. Josh Hamilton, cf; 4. Adrian Beltre, 3b; 5. Nelson Cruz, rf; 6. Michael Young, dh; 7. David Murphy, lf; 8. Mike Napoli, c; 9. Mitch Moreland, 1b.
LHP Derek Holland (11-6, 4.42 ERA)
Oakland -- 1. Stephen Drew, ss; 2. Jonny Gomes, dh; 3. Yeonis Cespedes, cf; 4. Chris Carter, 1b; 5. Brandon Moss, lf; 6. Josh Donaldson, 3b; 7. Josh Reddick, rf; 8. Derek Norris, c; 9. Cliff Pennington, ss.
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Fire Building – Axe Yard
Troop 51 Lesson Plan
Overview & Purpose
This lesson plan is to establish a consistent process for teaching the SKILL of using woods tools - axe, saw, and knife and is intended for Tenderfoot Scouts. It utilizes the Totin' Chip as its basis for outlining specific rights.
Education Standards
- EDGE Method
- Pomodoro Technique (12 / 3)
- This Lesson Plan is 4 ½ Pomodoros OR 68min
- Lewins CHANGE Framework (changing a boys understanding)
- Learn
- Understand
Materials Needed
- Pomodoro Timer
Everyone has some knowledge of every subject. Forcing someone to accept yours as being superior to theirs will result in hesitation to learn and resistance to this new way.
UNFREEZE: It is important to first see what they know, or think on this subject
CHANGE: Use strong references and supporting materials to convince them of this subject matter.
REFREEZE: Re-enforce the concepts several times thoughout the weekend and at future outings. Enabling the Scout to teach a younger Scout is the fastest way for this new knowledge to become
1 Pomodoro = 12 min MAX - 3 min Break
This is the basic VISUAL on the subject matter. It is important that you PRACTICE beforehand. It is important for a learner to see it done right so they have an example to follow. It should be only as long as necessary. The shorter, the better --- without going so fast they can't see what happened ( a delicate balance of time)
GUIDE / Activity
- Recite
- Show
- Explain
ENABLE / Closing
1 Pomodoro = 5 min MAX - 3 min Break
Proclaim their abilities and inform them they are now able to incorporate this knowledge into their lifes.
PROCLAMATION - {Scout Sign} [LOUD]
Let it be known throughout this land
that the skill of Fire Building has been acquired.
I Proclaim these young men to be skilled
And worthy of wearing the Firem'n Chit Patch and holding the card.
They now hold the right to build and care for fires and
Teach younger Scouts the proper way to build and respect fire.
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Ryanair pilot who joked about running from Muslims in airports and called passengers 'morons' is to keep job
'We don't comment on social media nonsense'
Ryanair pilot Iain Inglis, who called passengers 'morons' and joked about running away from Muslims he saw praying in airports, will keep his job.
Iain Inglis (31) made the disparaging remarks about the budget airline's passengers on Facebook, saying that he could not understand people queuing up to board following the introduction of allocated seating.
"To all Ryanair passengers. You now have a seat assignment. So why of why are you still queuing up like morons!!?? Please locate your brains," he wrote.
The 31-year-old captain also joked to his 700 Facebook friends about running away from a young bearded man he spotted "praying quietly to Mecca and kissing the floor at Stansted".
Ryanair bosses will not be taking action against the pilot however, saying: "We don't comment on social media nonsense, nor do we comment on individuals."
Mr Inglis, originally from Edinburgh, posted a cockpit selfie of himself wearing a tinfoil hat alongside the comments.
He said he had donned his 'radiation gear' after news that 56 minutes at 30,000ft exposed pilots to UV radiation equal to 20 minutes on a sunbed.
The pilot's comments come after Ryanair's chief executive Michael O'Leary vowed the airline would "stop unnecessarily p***ing people off" and treating customers "like the enemy."
Since his comments last year, Ryanair has rolled out a string of initiatives to win over fliers, including allocated seating, new seats with more legroom and improved in-flight meals.
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TIM PALMER: David Taylor joins me now for our look at today's business and finance.
And the Reserve Bank, another drip of their version of what's happening in the economy today. Anything new in it?
DAVID TAYLOR: That's right Tim, there was a little bit new. This is the quarterly statement on monetary policy delivered by the Reserve Bank. It was embargoed until about 11:30am, eastern daylight savings time today.
So when it came out, the markets did move on it because the RBA predicted below trend growth in 2013 and the bank says there will be really no real pickup in the non-mining sectors of the economy this year.
So that's not such great news for the actual growth rate of the Australian economy. In fact the banks reduced the growth rate from 2.75 per cent to 2.5 per cent.
They've also indicated that inflation will in fact be lower, and that makes sense. And of course the labour market will continue to only muddle along. Unemployment rate, as far as many analysts are concerned, is expected to rise to around about 6 per cent before the end of the year.
As I said the dollar did fall on that news, especially considering we had weak retail sales data out early in the week and again in that weak unemployment reading yesterday.
The Australian dollar fell to about 102.5 US cents immediately after that quarterly statement on monetary policy was released and it's moved up to about 103 cents ever since.
TIM PALMER: And apart from the Reserve's comments, was there anything else pushing the markets up or down?
DAVID TAYLOR: Yeah, one company in particular I should mention that released its earnings results today. Newcrest Mining, it's a gold producer, earnings of $320 million, that's the six months to the end of December.
Now get this Tim, it was down 50 per cent on last year but the result was 9 per cent higher than what analysts were expecting. So the market is moved based on expectation, so given the fact that, you put that together, $320 million for the six months to the end of December, down 50 per cent, shares up 5 per cent to $24.52, whoever said the markets were rational?
But look the company did say that there was a fall in production that led to the drop in profits, but that production is expected to increase in the second half of the year.
To the broader market, the European Central Bank met last night. Mario Draghi, the president there, says that interest rates are going to stay on hold at 0.75 per cent, but he also said that there is a little bit of concern with the rising euro and that's causing problems in the region.
It could see economic growth fall in the region.
Wall Street was rattled by that. European markets were rattled by that as well. But the Australian market shrugged it off by midday, boosted by some better than expected trade data out of China. That boosted the mining sector. Healthcare and consumer discretionary stocks also rose.
But Tim by the close of the session, the All Ordinaries did manage to gain 33 points, or 0.7 per cent to 4,989.
TIM PALMER: Thanks David Taylor.
The full story...
China data provides tail wind for share market
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TIM PALMER: David Taylor joins me now for our look at today's business and finance.