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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. -- Justin Tuck hasn't been sleeping well the past five days.
The two-time Pro Bowler and the New York Giants' defensive captain is upset how the defending Super Bowl champions opened the season against the Dallas Cowboys.
Tom Coughlin's team lost 24-17 Wednesday, but the score was not indicative of the way the Cowboys dominated.
"I think every guy in this locker room is disgusted with how we played, and want to come out and have a better showing, considering Tampa is coming off a great win over Carolina," Tuck said Monday looking forward to this weekend's game.
The Buccaneers played well in their first game under former Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. They limited the Panthers to 10 yards rushing and held the ball for more than 37 minutes in a 16-10 win.
"That team is fired up," Tuck said. "That team is going to have a lot of confidence."
The Giants have much to improve on.
The defense allowed Dallas quarterback Tony Romo to throw three touchdown passes while running back DeMarco Murray ran for 131 yards. The offense sputtered. The run game was almost non-existent and Eli Manning and his receivers produced two big plays.
What annoyed Tuck was that the Giants didn't respond to playing in the spotlight of the NFL's debut game against a rival.
"You want to come out and play your best game, and say they beat us playing our best," Tuck said. "We didn't do that, so that irks me. That really bothers me considering we had a lot of time to prepare for that team. We should have been more ... ready."
Veteran safety Kenny Phillips, who didn't practice Monday because of a sore back, said the defense played like it did early last season when everyone wasn't on the same page.
"Once the game started, I don't want to say it got away, but once they started to make some plays, everyone wanted to be that guy, be that hero to make the play for the team," Phillips said. "We got away from doing our job that way we were supposed to do it, like if you were a corner just being patient, or being a defensive end and staying outside. Everyone tried to win the game each play instead of playing as a team."
Safety Antrel Rolle said the defense has to start trusting one another again, which was the key to their play late last season.
"I think that was a wake-up call, knowing this league will present new challenges and different threats each and every week," Rolle said. "Just watching football this past weekend, I think teams are coming out to play. They are coming out fast and playing extremely tough. We definitely have to step up, and we have to step up now."
The one thing that caught the Giants' attention Monday was the NFC East standings. Dallas, Philadelphia and Washington won, leaving the Super Bowl champions bringing up the rear.
"You can't lose a game," Coughlin said. "Everybody's 1-0, and we're 0-1. We have another big game this weekend. That's the great thing about our profession, we get to line up and play again."
Tight end Martellus Bennett was his usual optimistic self.
"I see room for improvement, so I am excited," the former Cowboy said. "Even though we didn't play the way we wanted to play, I saw a lot that was correctable. It's not like we're bad football players out there and we need to get new guys. I think we played bad and still had a chance to get the ball back at the end and tie the game. I wouldn't say we're disgusted, but we're not happy."
NOTES: CB Prince Amukamara practiced for the first time since spraining his right ankle Aug. 24 in a preseason game against Chicago. He hopes to play Sunday, but said it's still a "wait-and-see situation." CB Michael Coe, who started vs. Dallas, also is hopeful that the hamstring he tweaked will be ready Sunday. ... OT William Beatty (back), a projected starter coming into training camp, has been splitting first-team snaps with Sean Locklear. Beatty believes he is close to being ready. He missed the preseason. ... Second-year DT Marvin Austin (back) also hopes to play after missing most of the preseason.


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Europe-Europe is a series of porcelain figurines created by the collective AES+F – a group made up of the artists Tatiana Arzamasova, Lev Evzovitch, Evgeny Svyatsky, and Vladimir Fridkes. A first quick glance they may seem like typical decorative figurines. However, it soon becomes clear that something is terribly/wonderfully wrong. The collection, exhibited together in a case, seems like an orgy – people caught in various sexual situations.
Yet, something else makes this series especially interesting: the characters are often thought of disliking or even hating each other in real life situations. A Neo-Nazi strokes the locks of a Hasidic Jewish boy, sweat shop workers pet their capitalist supervisor, a police officer fondles a rioter. While these can easily be read as a playful and optimistic depiction of global unity, a sinister feeling lingers on these figurines. It seems as likely that these hateful feelings are depicted as a sexual tension. Political power struggles are illustrated as sexual power struggles.


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Arsenal defender Bacary Sagna feels the sales of captain Robin van Persie and midfielder Alex Song have left "a lot of questions".
The France full-back is currently recovering from a broken leg and could be in contention to return by the start of next month. Sagna believes seeing the Gunners lose two of their key men in quick succession before the start of the new campaign makes no sense.
Speaking to L'Equipe, Sagna said: "Everyone was expecting Robin Van Persie to leave, but Alex Song, that was a surprise. I don't understand that at all. It is a big loss for the club. When you see two of the best players from last season leave, you ask a lot of questions. I understand why the supporters are nervous."
Sagna, 29, signed from Auxerre four years ago, and in that time has seen several of his team-mates leave - including duo Gael Clichy and Samir Nasri, who went on to win the Barclays Premier League title with Manchester City last season.
He continued: "I am the only starting player left from 2007. In May, I watched City's parade on TV. I saw Samir and Gael lift the trophy. I want that [feeling]."
The France defender will be heading into the final year of his current deal at the end of the season, and maintains as yet there has been no talk over an extension. He said: "For the moment, I want to play with Arsenal, and find my level again."
Despite the loss of Van Persie, who netted a hat-trick for Manchester United at Southampton last weekend, and Song, who joined Barcelona, Arsenal have opened the new domestic campaign brightly.
Summer signings Lukas Podolski and Santi Cazorla both opened their accounts in the 2-0 win at Liverpool, which was a third clean sheet. Captain Thomas Vermaelen believes new assistant manager Steve Bould has made a big impact on the Gunners rearguard.
Speaking to Sky Sports News, the Belgian said: "He has a lot of experience at a high level with Arsenal. We work a lot on our defensive play and you can see that with our three clean sheets."
Vermaelen is away on international duty with Belgium ahead of the World Cup qualifiers with Wales and Croatia, but played down concerns over a minor ankle problem, which forced him off in the closing stages at Anfield. Meanwhile, midfielder Andrey Arshavin has been linked with a move back to Russia with Dynamo Moscow ahead of their transfer deadline.


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Hope for Salmon as Dams Come Down
The largest dam removal project in U.S. history began in September, marking a victory for a campaign that spanned more than two decades.
The Elwha Dam, built in 1914, and the Glines Canyon Dam, built in 1925, stretch across the Elwha River on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State. They were constructed without fish ladders, blocking migratory fish from spawning. The river's salmon runs, once consisting of more than 400,000 fish, are now fewer than 4,000, and its subspecies of Chinook, steelhead, and bull trout are listed as threatened under the Endangered Species Act.
The dams were built across territory belonging to the Lower Elwha Klallam tribe, which had fished the Elwha for generations. The tribe fought for dam removal from the beginning, and was joined in its efforts in the mid-1980s by conservation groups including the Seattle Audubon Society, Friends of the Earth, Olympic Park Associates, and the Sierra Club.
Watch time-lapse footage of the Elwha Dam's destruction.
Together, they eventually forced a dam removal settlement with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. Under the resulting 1992 Elwha Restoration Act, the Department of the Interior evaluated methods to restore the river's ecosystem and associated fisheries, and determined in 1994 that it was necessary to remove both dams. But the dams remained in operation for the next 17 years, while $325 million to pay for demolition and cleanup was raised, largely through the National Park Service budget and a stimulus grant generated by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. Removal of the dams will take about three years; experts believe fish will return to the upper reaches of the Elwha as soon as one year after that. Brian Winter, the Elwha project manager, estimates it will take a further 25 to 30 years for the river to return to its natural state. Conservation groups hope the restoration of the Elwha will provide a model for improved management of American rivers.
Federal officials estimate the dam removal will create at least 760 jobs, and a further 446 annual jobs in recreation and tourism once it is completed.
A handful of new laws this autumn will strengthen civil rights, improve access to education, and protect jobs for the state's undocumented immigrants.
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5 Little Linux Computers
Linutop, Fit PC2
This month we take a look at a number of small form factor PCs that either come with Linux or would make a perfect fit for your favorite Linux distro. Each of the computers mentioned takes up very little space, but all deliver plenty of computing performance to handle everything from basic web browsing to watching videos. They make nice little firewalls, basic file/web/print servers, and quiet, low-power media servers. All of these units typically consume a fraction of the power of a conventional desktop and less than many traditional laptops.
Cost is a big factor when you compare the price tags to other machines. It's hard to justify spending $300 - $400 on a small form-factor PC as a desktop replacement when you can purchase a netbook for about the same price or less. The differences in performance and capabilities just don't justify the price differential. We'll take a look at some of those netbook offerings in a later roundup. For now, let's look at what's out there in the world of "little" computers.
Linutop 3
Little computers are all the rage and the Linutop 3 from France delivers small in both size and in power requirements. The Linutop 3 box measures about 23.5 cm square and 5.5 cm thick (9.25 inches by 2.17 inches). From a power perspective, the unit draws an energy efficient 20w. It comes with the Linutop OS preloaded on the internal 2GB Flash memory along with a number of productivity applications. A 1.0 GHz VIA C7 processor coupled with 1 GB of memory delivers more than acceptable performance for typical usage. On the rear panel you'll find four USB 2.0 ports, audio in and out jacks, a 1 GB Ethernet port, VGA and DVI video connectors and a single RS-232 serial port. The front panel includes an additional two USB ports along with headphone and microphone jacks. List price for the box is 340.00 EUR, which translates to around $415.00 US.
Fit PC2
Another entry in the little computer category is the Fit PC 2i from the UK. This little guy runs on 10 W of power while touting either an Intel Atom 1.1 GHz or 1.6 GHz processor. It includes two GB Ethernet ports, 802.11 b/g/n WiFi, four USB 2.0 ports and a mini-sdhc socket supporting bootable devices. For video, there's an HDMI connector and an optical S/PDIF connector for high-quality audio. This baby just screams to be a compact home theater PC, running the latest version of Myth TV. List price for the Fit PC2i Lite is 265.00 GBP or around $398 US. Fit PC also sells a 7" USB touch screen monitor for 99.95 GBP ($150 US).
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- Focus your first two years of study.
- Get an opportunity to "test drive" an academic major for your bachelor's degree.
- Enhance your resume career advancements, personal enrichment and more job opportunities.
The University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee at Washington County offers the following emphases (the links will take you to the emphasis pages in the Catalog):
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Thank you for your service as a Rifleman. We remember all you who gave their all. It has been too long, and it's about time for us all to acknowledge the sacrifices of those like you who answered our nation's call. Please watch over America, it stills needs your strength, courage and faithfulness. Rest in peace with the angels.
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As an American, I would like to thank you for your service and for your sacrifice made on behalf of our wonderful country. The youth of today could gain much by learning of heroes such as yourself, men and women whose courage and heart can never be questioned.
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Brought to you by the organization that built The Wall, the Vietnam Veterans Virtual Memorial Wall is dedicated to honoring, remembering and sharing the legacies of all those who died in the Vietnam War. Here you can go beyond the names on The Wall to see the faces, share the stories and read the remembrances posted by friends, neighbors, classmates and family members.
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The Media Research Center has published its annual Notable Quotable awards for 2005. It's a terrific compendium of media bias, with lots of media clips included. Here is the winning entry in the "God Save This Court From Extremists" category:
"An Advocate for the Right."
Headline over a New York Times "news analysis" of Judge John Roberts judicial philosophy, July 28.
"Balanced Jurist at Home in the Middle."
Headline over a June 27, 1993 New York Times story on Supreme Court nominee Ruth Bader Ginsburg.


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The Graduate Program in Public Health at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai's (ISMMS) mission is to educate our students to prevent disease, protect the environment, and promote good health in partnership with the populations they serve. Through interdisciplinary research and innovation, policy analysis, and advocacy, our students and graduates translate knowledge into practice to serve local, national, and global communities.
There are four types of options for students wanting to take courses in public health at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai.
- Master of Public Health Degree: The MPH is a 45-credit, two-year competency-based degree program that offers a general public health course of study as well as seven areas of specialization. It is intended for someone looking to enter or advance in the field.
- Advanced Certificate Program: This one-year program is designed specifically for professionals already working in public health who feel the need to acquire an additional academic credential – without devoting two full years to the endeavor. It offers three areas of specialization.
- Non-Matriculating Students: You can take individual courses within the Graduate Program in Public Health without matriculating toward a degree. Tuition is per credit and any coursework that you take as a non-matriculated student can be applied toward a degree later. Non-matriculating students are limited to 12 credit hours, after which they must apply for the MPH degree.
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SANS Institute - Thanks for nothing
Wow! I don't think I have every encountered a more disorganized, inflexible organization than the SANS Institute. Thanks to the burden of moving, I called in 4 days after an exam period had expired. It took 10 days, 5 different people, 4 emails, and 7 phone calls to get an answer and then they flat out refuse to extend the exam time period. Lots of excuses and finger pointing. #fail #sansinstitute #sans


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One man's junk is another's store
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Marion Ogden has been buying, selling, and collecting antiques since 1994 and he has not reached a limit yet on what catches his attention — and to him, none of it is junk.
"If it is interesting and I like it, I buy it," Ogden said. "I don't necessarily put an age barrier on what I buy, but I know from experience some things are worth more than others if they are old."
Ogden operates a shop, Bearly Makin' It Antiques at 308 E. Main in Marion — one of many such shops in town and the surrounding area.
"I love pictures," he said. "It is always interesting to get those big frames and then take them apart to see what else might be stuck behind there."
On Sunday, Ogden and his wife, Linda, were in the process of checking out several paintings before sending them out for restoration.
"I have them take out the old glass, put on new backing, and just clean them up so we can resell them," he said. "Some of these are probably 100 years old."
Old quilts, primitives, and furniture are the most lucrative items for a collector like Ogden, but he said he was always on the lookout for a variety of things.
"Glassware is always plentiful," he said. "Lanterns, sewing machines, knives, old guns, books, I like just about anything."
Ogden, known as 'Oggie' to his friends, does not limit his antique collection to what one building can hold.
"If I run out of space I just buy another building," he said. "I already own four."
He has a variety of farm and yard implements and furniture at the Old Alfalfa Mill on North Walnut; old metal signs, a sleigh, bicycles of all shapes and sizes, and bed frames fill his Barn at the Farm shop at 1980 Timber Road;, and his down townshop in Marion is filled mostly with glassware, ornaments, knickknacks and other decorative items.
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Florida lawmakers voted to move forward a proposal that would force online-only companies—and people who buy goods on the Internet—to pay the state's 6-percent sales tax.
Once shunned by conservative legislators averse to new taxes, the proposal has been packaged in a new "revenue neutral" form, meaning whatever money brought in by new taxes would be offset by tax cuts. Until now, it was widely believed that the money would go back to consumers in a new tax holiday.
However, a new amendment to the bill's language allows for Tallahassee lawmakers to decide who gets the break. In the business-friendly climate of the Legislature, the money could go to reducing taxes on businesses, not directly to consumers. On Wednesday, the House passed a $120 million package of tax cuts on businesses, ranging from reductions to the corporate income tax to reducing taxes on private plane repair.
According to Sen. Nancy Detert, R-Venice, the bill's sponsor, the online tax revenue should go to cutting business taxes.
"I'm envisioning this money to go to businesses… because these are the job-creators," she said, adding that the election of Gov. Rick Scott sent a message that people wanted lawmakers to focus on jobs.
The bill was heard in the Senate Committee on Banking and Insurance on Thursday, but similar legislation has not moved in the House recently.
The bill was drafted so that Internet companies would not have an unfair tax advantage over brick-and-mortar companies. In growing numbers, lawmakers have said the loophole amounts to picking winners and losers in government policy. But the new amendment allows government to choose who gets a tax break as a result of taxes paid on Internet sales at sites like Amazon—consumers or corporations. The "picking-winners-and-losers" language appears to apply here as well.
"I did not want to target one particular tax," Detert said. "I wanted us to have the flexibility…to decide about that pot of money."
Estimates for the amount of revenue that would be brought in by the new tax range from about $400 million to upwards of $1 billion annually. That means up to $50 in additional costs for every man, woman and child in Florida.
The business community strongly supports the measures, stating that competition from retailers like Amazon and eBay is putting local companies out of business. Detert called it a "win-win" for small businesses, and that could be the case if they see their competition taxed further, and then get a new corporate income tax cut to boot.
Sen. Don Gaetz, R-Niceville, expressed concern about online sales tax revenue being returned to businesses and not directly to consumers via a sales tax reduction or tax-free holiday.
"I'm all for business incentives, but we're kind of stealing from Peter to pay Paul," he said.
For people like Hossein Tavana, a South Florida man who does 60 percent of his shopping online, the bill could mean more than $600 a year in additional costs. He would not see that money directly returned to him if the offset goes to tax cuts for corporations.
Still, local businesses are in support, hoping to level the playing field against growing companies like Amazon.
"The world has changed since we wrote our tax code," said Detert. "And I think it's time to bring our tax code into current law, and deal with e-commerce."
Also of note, Amazon is looking to cut a deal with the state behind the scene, seeking a two-year sales tax holiday in exchange for building a couple warehouses in Florida.


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PlateSpin Recon 3.6.0 includes the following new features:
Deeper Understanding of the Virtualization Environment: This release includes more metrics and reports focused on vCenter, ESX and physical disks.
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Licensing Streamlining: The licensing options and structure have been streamlined into two comprehensive licensing models: Project and Enterprise.
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Below is a list of bugs fixed in this release.
462113: Inventory of 32-bit Solaris 10 x86 VM on Sun xVM server failing: Manually inventorying Solaris 10 x86 on Sun xVM servers was producing a segmentation fault.
482368: Inventory of Windows 2003 64-bit machines stalling: In some situations, the inventory process was stalling when trying to obtain the processor information.
474907: VC_Processor counter values out of sync: When data was imported into PlateSpin Recon, the VC_Processor counter and VC_Workload counter values were not matching properly.
485119: System.OutOfMemoryException while generating ChargeBack reports for 1000 nodes with 5 Raters: Generating chargeback reports for 1000+ nodes with 5+ raters using hourly data can result in a System.OutOfMemoryException. The recommended solution is to use daily data.
481301: Problem deleting a large number of server nodes: Deleting a large number of server nodes from the Data Center Explorer can generate warnings. A timing issue can prevent the machines from being deleted. The recommended solution is to retry, which will resolve the timing issue.
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When firefighters arrived at the home of Kathy Tucker, there was smoke coming from the back of the double wide mobile home and they sprang into action. They geared up for an inside attack with other members waiting at the back door in case the crew that went in needed rescue or back up.
According to the Macon County Sheriffs Office, they had responded to various calls at this location in recent weeks.
Ten firemen went to the scene, along with Engine 2, Tanker 22, and Truck 5. After the fire was under control, they checked for hot spots, and then went back to the bedroom with the most damage and continued to wet a pile of smoldering clothes.
The fire is still under investigation and Chief Keith Scruggs said, "At this point, all I will say is that this fire is definitely of suspicious origin."
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All sorts of interesting things are going on in the hybrid truck arena these days – and a goodly number of them were on display at the 11th annual Hybrid Truck Users Forum (HTUF) National Conference & Expo being held this week in Baltimore, MD.
Take for example this hybrid armored truck prototype developed by Freightliner Trucks.
It uses hybrid technology to help armored vehicles significantly reduce fuel consumed by idling – something they do far more than any other type of commercial vehicle, I suspect – without compromising the ability of such trucks to rapidly accelerate out of a dangerous situation.
[Dave Bryant, Freightliner's vocational sales manager for hybrids, touches on this and other key benefits "armored hybrids" can provide fleets providing this specialized service in the video below.]
Then there's an interesting new way to convert existing cars and light trucks into hybrids or all-electric vehicles for that matter without the need for an extensive overhaul: in-wheel motors.
Ken Stewart, vp-sales and marketing for Protean Electric, showed how his firm's technology makes the "retrofit" process easier without sacrificing any power and performance for such vehicles.
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Seeking balance in Oregon's timber country
"Now, that is an old-growth tree!" shouts Jerry Franklin on a September day in the hills above Roseburg, Ore. A mammoth Douglas fir towers 10 stories above, dwarfing everything around it. Sunlight filters down through the thick canopy to a group of about 20 University of Washington students. "You can really see who the veterans in this stand are," Franklin says.
Of anyone on the planet, he should know. A professor of ecosystem analysis at the university since 1986, Franklin, in suspenders and wide-brimmed hat, is a white-mustached veteran himself, having studied the woods for more than five decades. In the 1980s, he was among the first to show that Pacific Northwest old-growth forests were far from the biological deserts many thought them to be -- that, in fact, they are a vital ecosystem teeming with diverse species, including the rare northern spotted owl.
Franklin's research helped spark the bitter timber wars between loggers and environmentalists in the late 1980s, which largely shut down timber sales on some 24 million acres of federal land in the Pacific Northwest in the early '90s. Ultimately, he was among those called in by President Clinton to help draft a plan to end the conflict.
The 1994 Northwest Forest Plan set out to protect the spotted owl and hundreds of other species by preserving most of the remaining federal old-growth forest within a network of reserves in Oregon, Washington and Northern California, while leaving nearly a million old-growth acres for logging. Meanwhile, it tried to shift timber-dependent communities into new, more sustainable livelihoods. It would become one of the hallmark environmental policies of the century.
Two decades later, however, both the spotted owl and many timber communities are still in trouble. The bird has edged even closer to extinction, thanks in large part to the unforeseen invasion of its more aggressive cousin, the barred owl, and to big fires that have torn through its habitat. Meanwhile, timber towns are suffering due to several complex factors, including the fact that loggers have been able to harvest only about half of the 1.1 billion board-feet per year expected under the Northwest Forest Plan.
Nowhere is the economic impact to timber country more acute than in western Oregon, where deep budget cuts have forced counties that rely on federal aid to go so far as releasing prisoners from jails. Federal forest managers -- under pressure from their bosses in Washington and state and federal lawmakers -- are trying new ways of logging that would provide more revenue to communities while still protecting the forest. But attempts to increase the cut -- or even bypass the Northwest Forest Plan altogether -- are escalating an all-too-familiar tension over timber country.
In 2010, then-Interior Secretary Ken Salazar tapped Franklin and his longtime comrade Norm Johnson, an Oregon State University professor of forest policy, to design eight pilot timber-sale projects to demonstrate the administration's "active management" policy, which tries to combine logging with forest restoration. Although the pilot projects seek a middle ground, they've revived old debates at the heart of the timber conflict, including the very meanings of terms like "old growth" and "clear-cut."
In the forest near Roseburg, Franklin shows his students the most controversial project, the White Castle timber sale. Colorful flagging surrounds the old giants that will be protected, but most of the century-old stand, which is spotted owl habitat, will be cleared and sent to local mills. Then the forest will be left to recover on its own. It's far more intensive than the thinning now standard in federal forests, but gentler than the plantation-style clearcuts on state and private lands. Franklin calls this new harvest model "ecological forestry."
Many environmentalists, however, see nothing ecological about the project. To them, it's just another excuse to clear-cut virgin forests to feed outdated lumber mills -- and that, they fear, could set a dangerous precedent.
"It really is challenging the way people think about forests and what is good and bad," Johnson admits. With the first pilot projects already logged, "We're asking them to put aside the way they thought about that before and hear a new story."
Actually, it's more like a new chapter in an old story, about how the emerald belt between the salt shore and the Cascades provided much of the raw material for West Coast settlement and fueled the region's economy for decades to come. Bureau of Land Management lands checkerboard the center of that belt. Here, through a fluke of history, communities founded on timber remained tied to the industry as if by an umbilical cord.
It all started when a railroad land deal went wrong. In 1866, the federal government granted railroads 3.7 million acres in exchange for building a line between Portland and California intended to open the forests to wide-scale logging. After the Oregon & California Railroad Co. violated the terms of the grant, the feds reclaimed 2.6 million acres known as the O&C lands.
In the heart of this country, a settlement called Stumptown sprang up alongside the railroad tracks just inside future Douglas County, about 100 miles south of Eugene. The town lived and breathed timber, like so many others in the area, from Roseburg to Grants Pass to Medford. By 1929, it had been renamed Glendale and had 11 thriving sawmills.
In 1937, Congress designated the O&C lands for "permanent forest production," under what would become the Bureau of Land Management, to support the 18 counties that contained them. Since the U.S. government doesn't pay property tax, Congress promised the O&C counties a whopping 75 percent of federal timber revenues to pay for a variety of services -- triple what other counties would get from Forest Service lands, which were then managed as reserves rather than for timber.
By World War II, most of the old-growth trees on private land had been felled, and so growing demand turned to federal forests. Government-subsidized industrial logging fed the hungry post-war economy, providing lumber for 1950s suburbia. So much cash flowed in from the O&C lands that counties started giving 25 percent back to the BLM to help with management costs. But the big payouts also made some of these counties almost pathologically dependent on federal timber and reluctant to diversify their economies.
As clear-cut logging liquidated old-growth forests over the next decades, concern about forest management grew with the burgeoning environmental movement. In the 1970s, the new National Environmental Policy Act, Endangered Species Act and National Forest Management Act set the stage to drastically alter the practices and goals of federal forestry.
Around that time, a young Jerry Franklin was a research forester for the Forest Service in Corvallis. When he started studying old-growth forests, he thought he was compiling the historical record of a soon-to-be-extinct ecosystem: The management paradigm of the day was to log it all.
As environmentalists realized how many species depended on old-growth forests, however, they started working to protect that habitat. Activists camped out in the treetops and blockaded logging roads while their urban counterparts went to court to defend ancient forests. In 1990, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, after losing in court, listed the northern spotted owl as threatened. Environmentalists finally had the weapon they needed to stop old-growth logging.
When agencies tried to continue cutting without using new standards to protect the owl, environmentalists won a sweeping legal victory: Federal courts halted all new timber sales in owl habitat until an adequate plan could be put in place. Between 1990 and 1994, timber available for harvest in the Northwest plummeted from 5 billion-board feet to about 1 billion board-feet. The region's timber economy would never be the same.
The cutback in federal harvest hit all of timber country hard but was catastrophic to the O&C counties, particularly those rich in federal land. Unemployment in Douglas County soared from 7 percent in 1990 to 12 percent in 1992. In the same period, over a hundred mills shut down across the Northwest, nearly half of them in Oregon.
In April 1993, Clinton went to Portland to make good on his campaign promise to settle the timber wars. A team of more than 100 experts -- including Franklin and Johnson -- was given 90 days to come up with a solution. Their report became the Northwest Forest Plan, a blueprint for regional ecosystem management unlike anything the world had seen.
Key to the compromise was helping timber towns find new livelihoods. Jobs in the Woods programs put some loggers back to work restoring watersheds. Federal grants helped communities weather the economic storm. The limited harvest under the plan revived some jobs, and unemployment levels returned to around 8 percent in hard-hit counties. To help counties pay for basic services once covered by timber dollars, the feds doled out "spotted owl payments" that would last for six years.
Unfortunately, neither the timber industry nor environmentalists were satisfied. Eight lawsuits -- four from each side -- challenged the Northwest Forest Plan, but none succeeded. The old-growth logging allowed under the plan ensured that battles would continue. "That was a case where our judgment was wrong and society said, 'No,' " Franklin says. After years of ongoing litigation and protest, agencies have generally reverted to thinning over-crowded plantations as a middle ground between loggers and environmentalists.
Meanwhile, industry continued to fight for more logging, claiming the Northwest Forest Plan violated the 1937 O&C Act, which mandated much higher levels of harvest. The Bush BLM settled the case under the Western Oregon Plan Revision -- aka "The Whopper" -- which tried to restore historical logging levels, only to be defeated in court and dismissed under Obama.
Yet saving the forest hasn't saved the owl, thanks in part to the unexpected invasion of an Eastern relative -- the bigger and more aggressive barred owl, which entered the Northwest from the Midwest through Canada. Barred owls compete with their spotted kin for food and territory, sometimes even killing or mating with them to produce hybrid "sparred owls." Spotted owls, whose numbers have fallen an estimated 40 percent in the last 25 years, are now outnumbered 5 to 1 by their cousins in the Oregon Coast Range. This year, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service expects to begin shooting barred owls to determine if that will help spotted owls.
Given the bird's steady decline, Fish and Wildlife last year created a new plan nearly doubling its critical habitat and requiring additional review before logging. But habitat on federal land is still being lost -- these days, more to wildfire than the saw. Southern Oregon's 2002 Biscuit Fire ripped through 500,000 acres, causing the greatest loss of owl habitat since the Northwest Forest Plan was put in place. All told, wildfire was responsible for 80 percent of owl habitat lost in the 15 years following the plan.
Two decades ago, it seemed as if the bird's fate was inversely tied to that of the timber towns: If the owls thrived, the communities died, and vice versa. Many a western Oregon greasy spoon once jokingly featured "spotted owl stew" on its menu. Today, those towns still seem headed toward oblivion. Yet so does the owl -- and owl stew, figuratively speaking, is still on the menu.
Marv Eells is one of Glendale's few remaining storeowners, working the counter at his hardware-video-liquor store next door to his deli and used furniture store. Like many O&C residents, he blames the economic malaise on environmental regulations. "Since they went totally medieval on the spotted owl thing," he says, "it's taken a lot of taters off of a lot of tables in this part of the country."
If only it were that simple.
On Jan. 11, 16 inmates walked away from the Lane County jail into Eugene, Ore. By the end of the week, 127 had been set free, and by April, the number spiked to more than 1,200. Most were repeat offenders accused of crimes including burglary, assault and rape. Some were already convicted, their sentences only partly served, but the majority were released before trial because the county, faced with massive budget cuts, couldn't afford to keep them locked up any longer.
Josephine County, two hours south, faced the same problem last May when residents voted down a tax to fund the prison, and 39 inmates were released in Grants Pass. With county sheriffs' departments cutting staff and crime rates rising, locals took the law into their own hands. County residents formed what they call the Citizens Against Crime Patrol, taking to the streets armed with guns and zip ties and flashing lights on their trucks to look for suspicious activity, according to The Associated Press. Officials say it stops just short of vigilante justice.
These are the harsh realities of the current economic collapse in O&C country. Lane, Josephine, Curry, Coos, Douglas -- the counties with the most federal land -- have had it worst, struggling to fund basic services that were once supported by federal timber revenue and now rely on falling federal payments. The kneejerk reaction is often much like Eells': Blame the spotted owls and environmentalists. Yet even before the spotted owl became an issue, the Northwest's timber industry was declining. Loggers had gutted old growth so quickly that harvest levels would inevitably drop. Meanwhile, as logging became more mechanized and mills automated, longtime workers were cast aside.
After the Northwest Forest Plan went into effect, some communities made a genuine effort to create a new economy. Ashland became a center for the arts. A semiconductor factory opened in Eugene, Lane County's economic hub, but shut down in 2008. Other areas were able to take advantage of protected federal land to attract tourists and retirees seeking open space and a better quality of life -- part of the broader shift to a service economy. But communities lacking those resources continue to struggle.
To help them out, in 2000 Congress extended the spotted owl payments with the Secure Rural Schools and Community Self-Determination Act, which increased aid and stretched the safety net for six more years. Since 2006, shrinking extensions of the law have squeaked through Congress. So far, though, the effort to wean these counties off the federal dole -- and away from diminishing timber dollars -- has mostly flopped.
Between 2008 and 2011, falling payments made up almost a quarter of Douglas and neighboring Josephine counties' revenue. Lane County, home of Eugene's University of Oregon, faced a $100 million shortfall last year, thanks in part to the payment drop.
And locals haven't done much to help themselves, either. Like many other Western areas packed with federal land, these counties tend to be fiercely anti-government. Laws passed in the 1990s effectively locked in low property tax rates, making it even harder for counties to pay the bills. Over the last dozen years, Lane County has tried to raise taxes 14 times. Each time, voters said no -- perhaps not surprising, given recent unemployment rates of more than 12 percent. Josephine County has the lowest property tax rate in the state, and still residents won't approve taxes to pay for basic services.
The Secure Rural Schools payments have expired, and the program's renewal seems unlikely. The last checks to counties were withheld by the BLM under the federal budget sequester in February, and now the Forest Service is demanding that counties return the checks it sent out in the new year, infuriating Oregon's congressmen. Other federal safety nets are sure to be cut back under Washington, D.C.'s budget-trimming frenzy. Without payments, county budgets will once again be tied directly to federal timber harvest, providing a fraction of the revenue.
To make matters worse, what remained of the timber economy -- fueled mostly by logs from private land -- was battered by the recession. The national housing bust snuffed domestic lumber demand. Unemployment soared to 16 percent in Douglas County following the 2008 crash, far worse than during the timber-cutback years of the early '90s. Swanson Group mills in Glendale, Roseburg and Springfield laid off over 700 workers between 2007 and 2009.
Still, environmental protections have undoubtedly added to the economic hardship. And as the housing market sputters back to life, and demand for timber revives, the pressure to log federal lands will likely revive, too. But getting the cut out may be even harder than before. In March, the American Forest Resource Council and others sued to overturn the new critical habitat plan, saying that even the call for active management, which would allow limited logging, is "a hollow promise."
Franklin says the recent critical habitat protections are another example of the Northwest Forest Plan being hijacked. "I see it as a major change in the social contract that was the Northwest Forest Plan," he says. "Societies need to be as healthy as the forests. If they aren't, you are going to be in trouble."
Today, Glendale is a shadow of its former self. Sprinklers still spray piles of logs -- mostly from private land -- in the September sun at one of two Swanson Group mills. But the mills operate below capacity and employ mostly out-of-towners from larger communities with more amenities on the Interstate 5 corridor. "The downward spiral this community is in is going to be tough to reverse," says Steve Swanson, the fourth-generation owner of the family business.
Empty storefronts line the main street, and most of the shelves at the SuperStore grocery are bare. A bulletin board at the bookstore, which doubles as a coffee shop and lumber outlet, says, "We read to know we're not alone."
"We live in a land of plenty in terms of resources," says Douglas County Commissioner Doug Robertson. "Yet we're starving to death."
Standing inside the White Castle timber-sale area, Jerry Franklin lays out his latest vision of a forestry that can provide timber for struggling communities while also restoring the forest.
Along with his old-growth research, Franklin pioneered a "new forestry" that revolutionized federal logging practices in the '90s -- setting basic standards like leaving dead snags and legacy trees for habitat after a clearcut.
Franklin's more recent "ecological forestry" goes further. Larger patches of the best habitat -- 20 to 40 percent of the stand -- are left undisturbed while the rest is cleared to let smaller trees and shrubs fill in, creating "early seral" habitat that's high in biodiversity, with leafy plants for deer and elk, and flowers and fruit for birds and butterflies. Franklin is concerned that there's not enough of this habitat in the Northwest because clear-cuts on state and private land are managed more like plantations than forests: Almost everything is mowed down and sprayed with herbicide so that only replanted trees will grow -- an industrial model that shortcuts natural development.
The new method tries to mimic natural disturbances like wildfire and lets the forest recover more naturally. "It's an evolution in what we were thinking about under the Northwest Forest Plan," Franklin says. Back then, the focus was on saving the old growth; now, he says, it's the young forest that needs help, in part because there's been so little traditional logging on federal lands over the last decade.
Under the Northwest Forest Plan, clearcuts -- "regeneration harvests" in forester terms -- left more trees than an industrial cut but still provoked strong protests. In response, the BLM tried to meet timber targets by thinning crowded plantations to restore forests. But thinning provides less wood per acre and less return to agencies and county budgets. And some fear that the BLM will simply run out of forest to thin within the next couple decades. That's why Franklin wants to begin again with higher-volume, regeneration harvests.
"We need a dedicated land base for sustainable wood production on the federal lands, and this is part of it," Franklin says. The White Castle sale would produce 6.4 million board-feet of timber, slightly less than if it were cut under the normal standards of the Northwest Forest Plan, but 20 times more than if it were simply thinned. A recent study by Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber's office shows that ecological forestry could satisfy the Northwest Forest Plan's target of 203 million board-feet for the O&C lands into the future, while continued thinning would fall short and eventually dry up.
But the White Castle sale has proven a difficult place to test this new vision. While Franklin and Johnson's strategy recommends cutting previously harvested stands, this one has never been logged. Columns of 108-year-old Douglas fir tower above, providing habitat near five spotted owl nests. In a few decades, the stand will begin to develop the complex structure of a true old-growth forest.
After the site was chosen, the Fish and Wildlife Service included all 256 acres as critical owl habitat but said that the logging project could proceed because it wouldn't cause excessive harm. Within 14 days of the sale's approval, environmentalists filed a protest to stop it, describing the "ecological forestry" label as "Orwellian."
"The White Castle project is a cynical attempt to pass off clear-cutting century-old trees as restoration," said Doug Heiken of Oregon Wild in a press release. "In reality, the true focus of this project is providing cheap timber to old-growth dependent logging mills at taxpayer expense."
Environmentalists fear that this project could clear the way for more of this sort of "active management" in old-forest owl habitat. They say mature forests on their way to developing into old growth should not be sacrificed especially when impacts to struggling spotted owls are unclear. In December, the BLM dismissed the protest, but the groups appealed.
"Orwellian doublespeak, my ass," Franklin retorts. He accuses his critics of distorting the terms of the debate. Under more traditional definitions, the project is neither a clear-cut nor is it in old growth, generally said to be at least 180 years old. Yet with all of the ancient stands essentially off the table, the new fight in Westside forests is over the 80- to 160-year-old future old-growth forests. "This is really where the battle is going to be fought out," Franklin says.
Meanwhile, industry groups say the pilots don't provide enough timber to satisfy the O&C lands' promise of logs to support the counties.
"Of all the issues I've worked on, this particular one has angered the widest spectrum of people -- just about everyone," Johnson says. He sees the pilot projects as a policy test for a new management paradigm that challenges the divide between forest reserves and timber harvest areas. That schism, he says, harkens all the way back to the split between John Muir's preservationist ideals and Gifford Pinchot's utilitarian forestry, which laid the foundation for federal land management.
The pilot harvest model demands that foresters abandon plantation forestry but requires environmentalists to accept that some types of logging -- beyond thinning -- can be ecologically beneficial. "We're asking people to look at that and not see forest destruction but see forest renewal -- and that's hard," says Johnson. "This is really fundamentally rethinking our philosophy of how we conserve and manage forests."
More than anything, the pilots demand something as endangered as the owl: New trust between old adversaries. Though the Northwest Forest Plan emphasized the need to adapt its policies for the future, the distrust between industry, agencies and environmentalists over the years has hampered new ideas -- and possible solutions.
There may yet be some middle ground: Another pilot near Medford was seen as a collaborative forestry success and sold last year without protests. Abbie Jossie, district manager for the Roseburg BLM, is encouraged by the collaborative process behind the pilots. "We all want to be out of the litigation bottleneck so that good things can happen on the landscape and economies can be restored," she says. "There's lots of space out there for agreement, I believe."
But last fall, loggers cut down several legacy trees in the Medford-area pilot that should have been preserved, leaving some locals feeling betrayed. The Coos Bay project was also protested for its spotted owl impacts, and plans to cut 110-year-old trees in another ecological forestry project called Rainbow Ridge near Eugene were dropped amid controversy.
Active management is generally more warmly received on the Eastside of the Cascades, where thinning can help fire-starved forests. But a proposal in Washington to erase the Northwest Forest Plan's old-growth reserve boundaries has spurred controversy at the northern end of spotted owl range (see sidebar).
What plays out on the rest of the Oregon pilot projects will sway how the Bureau of Land Management moves forward with its first new plan in almost two decades. But a new approach to logging would only be one small part of a solution to the conundrum of timber, owls and county funding in O&C country.
State and federal lawmakers are now scrambling for a way to help the counties before federal aid disappears (see sidebar). Some call for bypassing the Northwest Forest Plan altogether to increase the cut, while environmentalists demand that counties and private timber companies pay more taxes. One thing seems clear: Logging alone won't save the counties if environmental laws are to be followed. Another tough compromise seems inevitable.
Meanwhile, Oregon congressmen are asking for more federal aid just to keep counties from going under. Facing bankruptcy, some counties are putting new taxes up for a vote in May in the hope that residents will finally approve them.
At another site down the road, Jerry Franklin stands on a stump in a clearing that resembles what the White Castle timber sale might look like if it succeeds. An old clear-cut that was never replanted, it could be seen as a forestry failure. But Franklin calls it an early seral success, boasting a diverse array of flowering shrubs and young Douglas firs.
"I'm a real advocate for finding integrated approaches that try to do good ecologically as well as for cultural and economic values," he says. "Any singular dominant objective for the federal forestland is a bloody mistake."
But where that balance lies has perhaps never been more uncertain, because dynamic ecosystems we're just beginning to understand refuse to hold still. Ironically, the need to restore the forest we've so drastically altered remains the common ground where loggers and environmentalists can both benefit -- if they can agree on the way it should be done.
Beneath tall trees, Franklin stops short of professing exactly how to balance the many virtues of the Northwest woods that have become his life's work. "You, collectively -- society," he tells his students, "are the ones who have to make that decision."
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Location in MadridThe Hotel Plaza Mayor is located historical in center of Madrid, less than 50 meters from the Plaza Mayor. It has different accesses by metro and bus, the nearest metro station being SOL. You will be able to arrive from the hotel to Prado Museum, Real Palace, and the great majority of the cultural and historical interests of Madrid. A perfect enclave to enjoy all the attractions in the capital from its own center, saving time and effort. If you are looking for the family hotel in Madrid center we are your choice, take your children to Madrid Zoo or Parque de Atracciones.
How to arriveThe hotel is located on number 2 Atocha Street in front of the Plaza Mayor and next to the Santa Cruz Palace (Ministry of International Affairs).
How to arrive from Atocha Train StationRead a guide on how to arrive from Atocha Train Station to Hotel
By MetroThe nearest metro station is SOL, the closest exit to the hotel is Mayor Street. You only have to walk up Esparteros Street to see the hotel right in front of you. From the airport, travel time by metro is around 40 minutes.
En TaxiThe approximate travel time is around 25 to 35 minutes. The exact address is Atocha Street #2. The clearest reference is the Plaza Mayor going up by Atocha Street.
With your own vehicleNear the Hotel you have 2 public parkings. In order to arrive at the Hotel, you can arrive by going up Toledo Street all the way to the beginning and then enter the parking of the Plaza Mayor (under the place). Or you can go up by Atocha street from the roundabout of Atocha (right in front of Atocha train station). Once on Atocha Street you should go all the way to the end to get to the hotel.
How to get to the hotel from the airport
By underground/subwayFrom any of the two Metro stations (Airport terminals T1, T2, T3 or T4), take line 4 and get off at the last station (Nuevos Ministerios). Once there, change to line 10 towards Puerta del Sur and get off at Tribunal. Then take line 1 towards Valdecarros and get off at Sol Metro Station. The journey lasts about 45 minutes.
By busThere is a 24 hour express bus line between terminal T4 and Atocha during the day and Cibeles at night. This is the best option to travel late at night with buses running quite often. The journey lasts about 40 minutes.
By taxiYou will find a taxi rank outside all the airport terminals.From any terminal, the tariff is fixed at 30€ including luggage.
By local trainYou can also travel from the airport on the local train service. Line C-1 will take you from the Airport Terminal T4 to Chamartín station in the city centre or vice versa. Once there, change to train line 3 or 4 and get off at Sol, the closest station to the Hotel. It will take you around 35 minutes.
Nearby metro stations
- Nearest station: Sol, lines 1 (light blue), 2 (red) y 3 (yellow).
- Closest exit to the hotel: Mayor Street.
- Distance from the metro station: less than a 3-minute walk.
Links of interestAeropuertos Españoles y Navegación Aérea (Spanish Airports and Air Navegation): www.aena.es The weather in Madrid Metro de Madrid: www.metromadrid.es Trenes: www.renfe.es Madrid histórica: www.madridhistorico.com Información turística: www.tourspain.es Plaza de toros: www.las-ventas.com Club Atlético de Madrid: www.clubatleticodemadrid.com Club de Real Madrid: www.realmadrid.com


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Nearly every American as a schoolchild learns about the famous order issued on the morning of June 17, 1775: "Don't shoot till you see the whites of their eyes!"
It's even possible somebody actually said those words as the epochal battle of Bunker Hill approached, since ammunition was already in short supply and holding fire was a common tactic of 18th century warfare.
But if those famous words were said, they weren't said on Bunker Hill.
In fact, the battle of Bunker Hill wasn't even fought on Bunker Hill, rather on Breed's Hill, a half mile away.
Don't feel bad if you're confused; the combatants themselves were often confused.
After more than 200 years of telling and retelling, scholarship and mythology, it's no surprise that fact and fiction surrounding Bunker Hill have morphed into a quagmire of jumbled truths and fairy tales.
Wading into this thicket is popular historian Nathaniel Philbrick with "Bunker Hill: A City, a Siege, a Revolution," a new, eminently readable telling of the battle that helped cut the umbilical cord between Great Britain and 13 of her rebellious North American colonies.
"Bunker Hill" is actually a multilayered biography of a city, Boston; a colony, Massachusetts; and the remarkable men and women who found themselves forced to make a life or death decision: liberty or loyalty, tyranny or treason?
Philbrick introduces a new generation to a nearly forgotten American hero, Dr. Joseph Warren, a young Boston physician, statesman and soldier who was a principal protagonist in a remarkable sequence of events beginning with the Boston Massacre in 1770 and culminating with the arrival of George Washington and the liberation of Boston from British occupation in the spring of 1776.
Philbrick's gift is the master storyteller's ability to bring the past vividly to life; he made the Pilgrims sexy in "Mayflower," a 2007 Pulitzer Prize finalist. In "Bunker Hill" Philbrick brings us back to those turbulent times when nothing was settled, and when the powerful British Empire came apart at the seams.
Because we know how the American Revolution turned out, independence often seems a foregone conclusion; an inevitability. But an independent America was anything but a sure thing; in fact it wasn't even desired by the vast majority of yeoman farmers and fisherman of Massachusetts who considered themselves loyal Englishmen devoted to their king and protector, George III. The American Revolution started as a battle for the rights of Englishmen.
The slow erosion of confidence in King George and the unnecessarily draconian actions of a distant Parliament eventually led to the "shot heard 'round the world" at Lexington and Concord and ultimately the showdown on Breed's Hill in June 1775.
"Bunker Hill" recounts the anything-but-inevitable disintegration of trust and comity between friends and neighbors and fellow countrymen, with the brilliant and brave Dr. Warren as the conduit to events, culminating in his tragic death in battle.
The death of Warren was a huge loss for our country; his contemporaries believed he would have risen to the front ranks of the new nation's Founding Fathers. His death was also a loss for Philbrick and "Bunker Hill," removing from the story its central character at the moment the reader most wants him. Such is the historian's burden; those pesky facts keep getting in the way.
Fortunately for Philbrick, the reader, and ultimately the new American nation, George Washington comes riding into Boston in the nick of time to save the day.
Doug McIntyre is a columnist for the Los Angeles Daily News and can be heard weekdays on talk radio KABC 790 AM.


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The Devil's Workshop: An Interview with Diablo III's Jay Wilson
May 14, 2012 Page 1 of 5
Prior to working at Blizzard, Jay Wilson worked on some big games, including Company of Heroes and Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War while he was at Relic. But none of his previous games were as widely-anticipated -- and garnered as high expectations -- as his latest work: Diablo III, launching this week for PC and Mac.
As director on Diablo III, Wilson had to digest everything that the 16-year-old Diablo franchise is known for, lead a team to determine what this latest entry should be, and how the Diablo team could achieve that vision. Reaching goals, said Wilson, meant crunching for quality, intense polishing, and listening -- as well as not listening -- to player feedback.
Diablo III is the first game that he headed up at Blizzard. Even though he was familiar with the high quality bar at the company, he told Gamasutra in this interview, "It just took a lot longer [to reach that standard] than I had anticipated."
I just read the Diablo II postmortem on Gamasutra, and about the crunch at the end of its development. How did you handle the final stretch for Diablo III? Was there just some massive crunch, like there was with Diablo II?
JW: Oh, yeah. We had a pretty big crunch. I wasn't there for Diablo II, so I can't really speak to it exactly, but as a company, I think we've gotten better in how we handle crunch. It's a little bit more phased, and we're able to take down certain [development] groups and give them rests. Not everybody really finishes at the same time.
There's the ability to keep people busy without keeping them in crunch when, really, their work is done. So a lot of it really is not just because of the time they put in; it's really the stress of trying to make the right decisions, and having so many balls in the air at once. Projects are really big now, and there's a lot of logistics to finishing them.
One of the first things we try to do is we limit how much time people actually work. We actually send people home so that they don't overwork. Our crunch was long, so what we try to do is make it long but not hard. We'd have weeks where we would just tell people they couldn't crunch at all.
Part of that was if we had a group that we felt was ahead, we'd tell them, "You guys are ahead. Don't crunch for a few weeks." Other groups, they weren't ahead, but they were tired, so we would give them a week off from crunch.
So we do things like that. We also just had groups that finished earlier than others. Mostly on the art side. The art finished early, which was a good thing -- you kind of want art to finish first.
So we have more capabilities now, when we have a group finish [their work]. In previous games I've worked on, you don't want anybody to finish early, because then what do you do with them? They're just sitting around. Nothing good happens from people sitting around. "Idle hands" is really a true statement. [Ed. Note: the full idiom is the "idle hands are the devil's workshop".]
And so we have a lot better management now, so we're able to do things like training courses, and help out some of the other teams. So we have a lot more capabilities to say, "Okay. It's okay for us to finish, to have this other group working, and have these other groups stop." So [we have] just a little bit more sophisticated ability to manage people.
How do you define crunch?
JW: For me, crunch is when people are generally working over 50 to 60 hours a week. That much or more. Essentially, if they're working more than 40, then I consider it crunch -- but for an extended period of time.
I think we always say -- one of the things that I try to push to the team -- is that while game development cycles have a tendency to crunch towards the end, usually for a few reasons, at Blizzard, it's actually driven by quality.
But most companies you work for, it's not actually quality that makes you crunch. It's usually bad planning, and a lack of focus. So if you can, for the majority of your project, be really focused -- and do like little mini crunches. Like once a month you have one week where you work a little extra to try and hit a goal, you can actually alleviate a lot of the end crunch.
And you've got to couple that with an appropriate level of ambition. I would actually say on Diablo III, we were overambitious in a lot of ways. I, as a game director, kind of underestimated the amount of time it would take us to get to the Blizzard quality level. I hadn't made a Blizzard game before, so now I know better, and I think we can do an even better job on it.
You came from Relic, just prior?
JW: Yep. And I worked on a game called Impossible Creatures, where we crunched like crazy, and then I worked on a game called Dawn of War, which was a lot less time and money than Impossible Creatures, and yet we made a better game and we actually didn't hardly crunch at all. And it was because I had really good understanding of the capability of the team, and what would be an appropriate ambition level for them.
It was a very ambitious project, but everybody was very focused on what the game was supposed to be, and how it should work. We all worked together before, too, which is a huge advantage. Because if you have a team that has put something out together, I wouldn't say their quality necessarily goes up, but their efficiency goes way up.
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is as close as you can get to a real-life geek superhero; his special powers include a real affection for Comic-Con culture and stepping into that imaginary world. As a boy, Pegg was swept away by his geek loves: live theater and the fantastical worlds of "
," "Doctor Who," "Jason and the Argonauts" and "Star Trek." He now lives the impossible dreams of his youth, acting for
and stepping onto the deck of the Starship Enterprise as Scotty in
The 41-year-old Brit recounts his story with self-effacing charm in the new memoir "Nerd Do Well." His short Southern California visit includes just one book signing, 7 p.m. Friday at the Barnes & Noble at the Grove. Wristbands, which are required, will be passed out at the store starting at 9 a.m.
Pegg can riff on cultural theory and the decline of the bourgeoisie in late capitalist societies as readily as he cracks up over a fart joke. There's a goofiness in that combination that's echoed in a fictional gag that runs through the book, a story about Pegg, "a rugged, sexually devastating superhero," dueling a supervillain/vixen and accompanied by his robot sidekick,
(think C-3PO with an unfortunate earring).
"I liked including it as a means of undermining what is essentially a narcissistic exercise, writing a memoir. I wasn't entirely comfortable with it, even though I went ahead and did it," Pegg said by phone from
, where his book tour began this week. "For me, it was a way of subliminally communicating to the readership that I was well aware of what I was undertaking in writing a memoir and not to take it too seriously."
At first, Pegg thought he would focus his book on his filmmaking experiences, shielding his private life. "As soon as I started doing that, I thought, 'God, this is dreary.' There's nothing to report. It's like I went in to work, someone said 'action,' I acted, I went back to my trailer, I had some lunch, I took the dog for a walk."
Fans who are eagerly anticipating reading about his experiences working on, say, "Star Trek" may be surprised that there are few on-set anecdotes. He steps onto the Enterprise and then — that's it! What was it like?
"It was an extraordinary thing to be part of that world," he admits. "I do talk about how weird it was to speak to
when he was in character. That was super-strange, because he wasn't just Leonard Nimoy, he was Spock, and to have Spock talking to you is utterly, utterly odd. I've known him since I was 9 — and he's not even real!" He stops and laughs. "That's hard to put into words, that."
Pegg's book comes in advance of his appearance in what may be two of the bigger movies of the year. He's a costar of "Mission: Impossible — Ghost Protocol" with
and was motion-captured by Steven Spielberg for "The Adventures of Tin Tin: Secret of the Unicorn." And he'll be returning as Scotty in the next "Star Trek" film about which he can say nothing — not even the title — except that it's coming in 2012. Blockbusters notwithstanding, he's built a career acting and writing together, recently in the alien pastiche
and cop comedy "Hot Fuzz." Yet he found writing a book was a very different experience.
"The one thing that I learned from writing this book is that it's extremely difficult to write a book," Pegg said. "I tried to write it between takes on a set. I tried to fit it in between the rest of my life, and that was impossible." So he went to his publisher's office and sat there, working under the deadline-focused gaze of his editor. "With that level of discipline and concentration I banged it out in 31/2 months. That's the other thing — it's actually quite easy to write a book, if it is all you do. If you clear your mind of everything else, it comes out of you like a load of ectoplasm."
The book's endpapers illustrate his childhood daydreams — they're Pegg's own doodlings of Yoda from "Star Wars," dinosaurs, spaceships and
. When he was growing up in England, Pegg said, "classic
titles were dismissed as filth. It made them more mythic — it made the desire to see them greater." His breakthrough with American audiences was with his film
the 2004 cult favorite zombie movie that had a great part in bringing zombies, um, back to life.
In "Nerd Do Well," Pegg brings childhood passions to life, injecting them with a sense of wonder that stretches across time. He has met
, Princess Leia in "Star Wars," once, as a fan at Comic-Con, an experience he details in the book. "It remains a great unfulfilled ambition of mine," Pegg says. "I hope that one day we'll meet and I'll be able to relate to her on a sort of even footing as a fellow artist and writer. I'm sure she has absolutely no idea who I am and doesn't even care — but for me she'll always be my first love."
Spoken like a true fanboy.


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Wildgoat Designs needed a new logo design and created a contest on 99designs.
A winner was selected from 137 designs submitted by 44 freelance designers.
Our company is Wild Goat Designs. We build websites. The winning logo should look professional with a "funky" goat image on it with some relation to web design incorporated into it. The image should be viewable with or without text.
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