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Monday, April 23, 2012
Time Out.
86 comments:
- William J. Tasker said...
Understandable from your point of view. Enjoy the summer. Enjoy your family. Enough is enough.
- April 23, 2012 at 11:25 PM
- Mogwai said...
Yesterday post-game ned was talking about "manufacturing runs"....that and the insistence on "my 8th inning guy" approach to the bullpen is EXACTLY what got nervous ned a nearly-unprecedented-during-the-stretch ticket out of the land of kielbasa.
Won't be long now. - April 23, 2012 at 11:35 PM
- Kansas City said...
Thanks for the insights, even as you depart. I echo enjoy your summer and your family. You'll be back soon enough. I would not be surprised to see the Royals get hot before the All Star break.
Ned Yost is a fool as a tactician. I assume Dayton understands that or can figure it out. - April 23, 2012 at 11:40 PM
- Nathan said...
I highly recommend Skyrim. In fact, if you wanted to start blogging about that instead, I'd be fully willing to read it.
- April 23, 2012 at 11:42 PM
- Venu said...
I have to agree with you - I have reached the end of my rope as well. Spend time with your Family and leave the blood suckers alone!
- April 23, 2012 at 11:44 PM
- CoolHead said...
Maybe start with Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. Enjoy yourself. Dedication to a team should not overwhelm the fan, it should invigorate him.
I'm a Jays fan, but I've followed you on Twitter for a year now, always enjoy your take, even if it might be less frequent in the near future. - April 23, 2012 at 11:49 PM
- Unknown said...
i'm there and i've been there a hundred times too, but i always come here to find company in my misery. It ain't easy being us, but it's alot easier when you know there's others out there.
The Royals' BS has gone too far, but i hope you don't bail on the blog altogether, it helps some of us. And i suspect it helps you too...
Keep up the good work and hope to read more from you soon. Seriously - April 23, 2012 at 11:53 PM
- Dan Cook said...
Your hundreds of thousands of words were not a waste, as I gained much pleasure and insight from it. Have a great summer.
- April 24, 2012 at 12:27 AM
- Ewan Ross said...
""CoolHead said...
I'm a Jays fan, but I've followed you on Twitter for a year now, always enjoy your take, even if it might be less frequent in the near future.""
I'm in the exact same boat. I'm a Jays fan, and through your writing the Royals are very solidly my 2nd favourite team.
The fact that this team has had two of the leading lights in the Sabrmetric community who were Royals fans (Neyer & Rany), and their incompetence has turned both of them away.
Your reaction is perfectly acceptable given your patience over the years. Hope to see you back writing here soon (cause that'll mean the Royals are doing better). - April 24, 2012 at 3:20 AM
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- April 24, 2012 at 3:20 AM
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- April 24, 2012 at 3:20 AM
- Andrew Winkel said...
Rany, if the Royals didn't do what they do, they wouldn't be who they are. And if they weren't who they are, we wouldn't be who we are.
I watched game 7 of the 1985 World Series on a 2-inch black-and-white Sony Watchman, sitting in a car in the parking lot of Royals Stadium. Since then, it's been nothing but suffering.
But we are Royals fans. This is what we do. And this is what we will continue to do -- until the day when we finally don't. And that day will be glorious. Enjoy your time, however you spend it. We'll be here when you get back. - April 24, 2012 at 3:31 AM
- Unknown said...
Thanks, Rany. Love your stuff, and don't let the Royals ruin your summer. I'll be willing to read whatever you put up.
- April 24, 2012 at 3:39 AM
Yeah, Rany take some time off. You write more than most bloggers anyway. It's been a rough few weeks. I want to see what Paulino offers, and Salvy gets back who knows.
I welcome the Road.
You should really blog about games though. A good one to get into would be Assassin's Creed. I know you like middle east history, and the most recent one features Constantinople in the late Renaissance era. I really think you would like that. Skyrim is so cliche. - April 24, 2012 at 4:04 AM
"Your reaction is perfectly acceptable given your patience over the years"
Actually he hasn't been all that patient. This isn't his first "I give up" post. It's been an almost annual thing.
He actually EXPECTS the Royal's management to listen to him (A blogger,a popular blogger in KC's small pond - but still a blogger) and take his advice. When they don't, he pouts. It wont last long.
I think the title "Grand Poo-Bah Royal Blogger" is too important to him to leave for long. - April 24, 2012 at 4:05 AM
- KHAZAD said...
You may as well keep posting, dude. It's therapeutic, if nothing else.
In this information age, you will still know everything that happens, you won't be able to stop caring,and without the ability to rant about it your head would explode.
I tried to turn away after the Dye for Neifi deal, and even then, I still knew what happened every day, and still got the same sinking feeling after a loss.
I was at the game tonight, in the crown seats with my wife for my anniversary. (I have a great wife) At least I was close enough for Ned to hear me wonder loudly if he had bet on Toronto after that second bunt with no outs and a runner on second. - April 24, 2012 at 4:35 AM
- Andrew Laughlin said...
Hate to be "that guy" but Drew Barrymore didn't say that on Fever Pitch. It was one of Jimmy Fallon's students at baseball practice. Sorry. I have just seen that movie too many times. Great piece Rany.
- April 24, 2012 at 4:57 AM
- Andrew Laughlin said...
Hate to be "that guy" but Drew Barrymore didn't say that on Fever Pitch. It was one of Jimmy Fallon's students at baseball practice. Sorry. I have just seen that movie too many times. Great piece Rany.
- April 24, 2012 at 4:58 AM
- bbxpert said...
I'm a season ticket holder, and I just want to say that despite the slow start, a true Royals fan doesn't give up on his team. Also, Mitch Maier bunted on his own, but regardless of whose idea it was, it was a stupid play.
- April 24, 2012 at 5:49 AM
Wow, was Ned Yost this bad a manager when he was in Milwaukee? I never really paid attention to him 'til he came to KC. I have to wonder if the Royals hired a stupid manager or if the Royals turned him into one. I know that's a bit "chicken & egg", but it seems unlikely they'd find a manager who fits the organizational philosophy of dead ball when this same manager has had some success elsewhere in the majors.
He could completely undo Dayton Moore-or-Less's minor league potential stars once they reach the majors, just by all these awful decisions.
Oh and, am I the only one watching the standings & thinking that the Royals at 3-13 are going to get a higher draft pick than the Chiefs? :-P - April 24, 2012 at 5:52 AM
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- April 24, 2012 at 6:34 AM
- mrfson1 said...
Amen brother!
- April 24, 2012 at 6:39 AM
- Jayboid said...
You are right Rany.
A few years ago late in my career I began working with a baseball savvy younger fellow who loved another team.
He encouraged me to enjoy the game again, and put my anti-strike anger away. Enjoy the game as in the total MLB game, not just follow the Royals.
Glad he did, for I am finding myself watching other teams more and more. Again, am older and finding myself often being woke up sleeping in a lazy boy chair with Joel Goldberg droning on about a meaningless HR in the post game.
Yes, this year is different. It is embarrassing to be a Royals fan.
Hello Omaha, Hello Springdale, Hello Pork Steaks, or whatever the team is playing at the Legends. - April 24, 2012 at 6:47 AM
- Lance said...
There is a bright side! Sidd Finch will be available in next years draft.
- April 24, 2012 at 7:33 AM
- KCDC said...
I've largely tuned out too. There's only so many times you can watch a bird slam into a window. While it can be funny to watch them struggle for a while, it's time to accept that they're not going to learn and move on with our day.
- April 24, 2012 at 7:46 AM
- Rational Moderate said...
Rany - I can understand where you are coming from. I grew up a Cubs fan and was emotional attached to every single pitch, bunt, win, and loss for many years. I finally decided after being swept out of the playoffs for the second year in a row in 2008 that I had had enough.
I realized I wasn't enjoying the game I loved so much anymore. I had to divorce myself from the Cubs. I took basically two years off from the game.
I had lived in KS for 3 years from 2003-2006 and had gone to several games at the K. I started following the Royals through your blog and some other sites. I have since adopted the Royals as my team. I am not as emotionally attached to them (you can never replace a first love), but still really enjoy following them and rooting for them.
It has allowed me to become a baseball fan again.
Good luck - April 24, 2012 at 8:23 AM
- Jroo98 said...
I'm with you. As a lifelong Royals fan I'm used to them losing, but even last year during that two-month stretch before the All Star break they were still fun to watch. This year is different for some reason, probably because they're squandering so much potential. I stopped watching them a few days ago, opting instead for the NHL playoffs and whatever game ESPN decides to show us. I still read the box scores but they aren't getting any more of my money or ratings until something changes.
- April 24, 2012 at 8:24 AM
- Mike said...
The Royals are an addition we are saddled with, Rany, and you are our sponsor. Hope you make it back soon.
- April 24, 2012 at 8:26 AM
- Mike said...
Dangit, that should say "addiction."
- April 24, 2012 at 8:27 AM
- Tampa Mike said...
I thought Yost would be good for developing the young guys, but it doesn't seem to be working. I don't know, maybe his tactical errors just outweigh any developmental improvements.
Dayton kills me with his obsession over Yuni, Getz, and our minor league pitchers. He had to bring in more starters... you can't plan on those guys coming up and performing like that. The Rays have so many starters they put several in the bullpen! - April 24, 2012 at 8:30 AM
- Todd S. said...
I've played both Oblivion and Skyrim, and I would rate Skyrim higher. I spent a good amount of time in Oblivion and it is a very good game. However, if you're obsessive (like me), you'll spend a good deal of time working on skills to level your character properly instead of dungeon-delving. In fact, most of my time listening to The Baseball Show was spent while doing mundane skill-leveling in Oblivion.
Skyrim on the other hand is much more straight-forward with skills, so you can spend more time doing quests, fighting monsters, or sneaking around stealing stuff. So maybe the recommendation is this: 1) If you're determined to play Oblivion, play it first. 2) If you don't care which you play, go for Skyrim because it is a bit more fun. I say "a bit" because both of them are very good and have consumed too many hours of my time to count. (Wait...Steam actually does count the Skyrim hours...*shudder*). - April 24, 2012 at 8:47 AM
- TangoAlphaLima said...
Thanks for your longtime contributions to the Royals community, Rany. Enjoy the time you take off, we'll always be here for when you return.
- April 24, 2012 at 9:41 AM
- RoyalinChief said...
You and I both need some time off sir. I like how you finished the post and I agree.... I will be there for them when they are ready to make me happy again instead of constant misery and embarrassment.
Enjoy your family and the summer. - April 24, 2012 at 9:48 AM
- Unknown said...
Rany: I share your pain, but we need this group therapy.
- April 24, 2012 at 9:59 AM
- Tory said...
I selfishly hope that you reconsider, because I love reading the blog, but I completely get it.
I've been purchasing the MLB package year after year after year since I left Kansas City, and wonder each year, why the hell I even waste the time, money, or effort to watch this team continue to accept playing terrible baseball. - April 24, 2012 at 10:13 AM
- Grumpy Penguin said...
I came to read this via a Jonah Keri RT on Twitter and I'm really glad I did. I live in Toronto and I could have written exactly the same post about our NHL team: the Maple Leafs. It's not the losing every single year that I am sick of, it's the blatant stupidity that has caused it for most of my lifetime.
I also am a huge fan of Bill James and enjoyed your Sabermetrical analysis of your frustrations.
I empathize with you 100%. Don't let anyone tell you how a "true fan" would react; that bilious "argument" is one of the worst. I took time off from the Leafs this year right after Christmas when they announced a contract extension for the worst coach in the league; once he was fired I paid a little more attention but have yet to return to the passion I held for that team through previous years.
It improved the quality of my life more than I ever thought it would. Enjoy your "Vacation of the Soul". - April 24, 2012 at 10:25 AM
- Bill Spiegel said...
I've enjoyed reading your columns, but like you - I'm at the end of my rope. I've spent 35 of my 41 years as a faithful fan, and have spent countless hours and dollars following them.
No more. It hurts to "quit 'em," but I'm done. I'm not going to invest the emotions in this team anymore - they've worn me out. - April 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM
- THH said...
If you haven't quit them by now, you aren't going to. Too much still to look forward to although I suspect there will be disappointment there as well.
Not even a sabermetric type can overcome fan bias. Dave Cameron made a fool of himself with the Mariners a few years ago insisting that their WAR value overcame the fact that they were outscored and claimed they had one of the greatest defenses of all time when it was obviously not the case just by reviewing the players on the field.
If it weren't for your optimism, how else would you make it through it?
I suffered through a decade of ineptitude with the Rangers before I finally lost interest in baseball altogether for 20 years after the working world forced a separation.
I really don't know how a Royals fan can cope with what they've had to deal with.
I will never have an emotional interest in a team again. It's become too corporate for me. - April 24, 2012 at 10:51 AM
- KC Tim said...
I hear ya! Its times like these were I can see how some people can be from Minnesota and be a Yankee fan. Or that guy from the 90's that was THE die-hard Braves fan who is now suddenly a Rangers guy. Love the posts, see ya back in a few weeks!
By the way, one other thing you got right...or irony that you called this months ago:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/braves-demote-jair-jurrjens-minors-062919515--mlb.html;_ylt=Ah5aVX5lQBp55dS0Esywv3sRvLYF - April 24, 2012 at 11:22 AM
- Chris in Indy said...
Wow. You sound just like me a few years ago. I'm a life long Cubs fan and they were/are doing the same stupid mistakes. Only with the hire of Epstein has my faith been renewed. I still don't waste my time by watching every game like I used to in my youth, but I still find time (a couple minutes) every day to look at the box score and standings. That's all I'm prepared to do until they prove they will start playing the smart way. Its too frustrating! I also decided to spend more time with my family. It was certainly worth it. Good on you!
- April 24, 2012 at 11:41 AM
- Unknown said...
Thanks for investing your time and expertise over the years. Stepping away from a hot mess like this franchise is a smart thing to do, for yourself, and for your loved ones by extension. - April 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM
- Steve said...
You know what franchise won't let you down? Assassin's Creed. The only video game I obsess over.
- April 24, 2012 at 12:06 PM
- Mark said...
Great stuff as always, Rany.
This team stinks from the top-down. Glass is the Donald Sterling of baseball. And Dayton Moore, with his anti-intellectualism and love of "leadership" from turds like Yuni, Frenchy, and Getzy, is a joke.
I'm not going to be able to quit this team cold turkey. But I will do my best to avoid going to the K. I went to nine games last year. There's no way I make it to that many this year.
I'll spend my money at Sporting KC games instead. I much prefer MLB to MLS, but at least the ownership of Sporting cares about wins and losses and takes responsibility for the product it puts on to the field. - April 24, 2012 at 12:43 PM
- Zak said...
You've nailed it on the head. Nothing hurts more in life than stupidity.
Everything else is sufferable. - April 24, 2012 at 12:45 PM
- Jason said...
Rany I have a blog I won't mention it here because I don't want to promote it on your site. It has nothing to do with Royals baseball or baseball in general. I have enjoyed your writing for quite a few years even going back to the Rob & Rany interactions. I would like to know who you talked to or what did you to refine your writing style? I am looking to improve my writing on my own blog. My email is email@example.com.
As a Royals fan I am full agreement of your frustration. I hate stupid baseball. I don't understand why we can't get past it.
Thanks Rany! I enjoy the blog. - April 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM
- Charles Winters said...
On Saturday, Rany, Ned Yost did something that largely was uncommented upon but has to be the CRAZIEST thing I've ever seen.
In the top of the 4th the Royals led 1-0. The Blue Jays had a runner on third and 1 out. Yost PULLED HIS INFIELD IN FOR THE PLAY AT THE PLATE. Predictably, the next batter hit the ball to a place where Escobar would have easily got to it had he been at normal depth.
Failure to just surrender the one run cost the Royals THREE EXTRA RUNS.
I don't think I've ever seen even a little league manager make a move so obviously stupid. - April 24, 2012 at 1:42 PM
- Harwood Benjamin said...
What's wrong with Fever Pitch? Or Drew Barrymore? At least Adam Sandler wasn't in it.
- April 24, 2012 at 2:31 PM
- Vonn said...
This is the first time I've read your work, and its to read that you may give it up, at least for the foreseeable future. It was a lot of fun to read, not so much for the frustration you obviously feel, but because this is one of those rare fan-blogs that's written by one who is both passionate an well-informed. The Royals aren't the primary team I follow, but they're a close second, and I also had higher hopes for this team, so I can almost get a slight feel for your frustration as a fan who covers them. Take your time if you need to, enjoy your kids and your Wife. By the measure of others who have commented here, you're well respected and deserving of any way you choose to go. If and when you start again, I'll look forward to reading. - April 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM
- Unknown said...
Rany: I'm sure you'll come across these articles but these are optimistic positive spins on the Royals from non-Rany sources (one of them links to your latest quitting):
Top ten in WAR!
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/evaluating-the-royals/ - April 24, 2012 at 3:08 PM
- rather rapid said...
i'd agree raney fails to know what the hell he's talking about. might help to know by analyzing what the performance variables r in baseball which includes the injury prevention variables, particularly for pitching staffs. once u identify them u willl Raney be more competent at evaluation. start with basic observation--what qualities separate wining base ball teams from losing teams and go from there. the light bulb will come on.
- April 24, 2012 at 3:53 PM
Rather rapid. shut up. youre the one who sounds ignorant.
- April 24, 2012 at 5:15 PM
- will_severns said...
I love you and I love your blog.
However, as a die hard Royals fan myself, instead of Skyrim i suggest Jesus.
He will never give you the red ring of death.
And since the beginning of time he has never even been on a 1 game losing streak.
Now lets go shock Major League Baseball
War Blue Wave - April 24, 2012 at 7:10 PM
- Lamojamo said...
Rany, I feel your pain. I saw an MLB commercial about why we watch "because they're our team" slogan and I was almost brought to tears. The Royals have to be the cruelest team in pro sports. I've loved your blogs for years now and I thank you for your obsession and passion.
- April 24, 2012 at 10:16 PM
- Unknown said...
I'm right there with you rany. There are alot of good books waiting for me instead of reading single A box scores before I go to bed and dreaming of brighter tomorrow. Not that I won't pay attention. I'll be here when they finally figure there shit out.
- April 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Your blog is always a fantastic read; I don't know how you do it every week. But I agree with you; when the Royals are ready to lift us up, we'll be there, ready to go.
- April 25, 2012 at 10:03 AM
- Mr. Martin said...
"I'm still rooting for them to win every night (at least until late September and draft position is on the line)"
This is the exact mentality that losing teams fans develop. It is a loser mentality. - April 25, 2012 at 10:10 AM
- Jermaine said...
Writing about stupid, Lee Judge had this to say about Jonathan Sanchez being unable to throw strikes:
"These pitchers can pretty much throw a strike whenever they want to. Watch what they do on 3-0 (most of the time) and you'll see what I mean. Nibbling is usually not a function of physical talent, it's a poor mental approach."
Btw, Sanchez threw a ball in three of five 3-0 counts yesterday. - April 25, 2012 at 11:38 AM
- DanT said...
I've been a lifelong fan on both of my hometown teams (the Chiefs and the Royals) even though I haven't lived in KC for 20 years. This is the first week that I've even considered giving up on the Royals. It's not just that the manager and the players are making bad decisions on the field, but Mr. Glass just simply lacks class. He's the opposite of Mr. Kauffman. The anticorruption laws for American corporations are such that only a bunch of lowlifes would be on the wrong side of them, but that's where Wal-Mart's executives are. Classy organizations attract classy people and classless people screw up classy organizations. Think about how much the Royals have degenerated from where they use to be. The old Royals came back from a cocaine scandal to whip off two straight division titles, a feat that wasn't even considered all that impressive at the time, given fan expectations. What Royal fan nowadays this organization has a reasonable shot at even back-to-back playoff appearances?
- April 25, 2012 at 1:47 PM
- bluesince89 said...
First of all, it was a young student of his that used that line.. not drew barrymore.
Second of all, I understand every claim you make, and it is hard to deny any of them.
But at the same time... you have been around for so long and you have stuff to be optimistic about now... why now after all the horrible years to you appear to just want to give up on them. i know you say if they play well youll have stuff to write about again. but i have to say as a die hard.. it takes more than all these one run losses and bad luck for me to die on the royals. You said yerself this happened plenty of times before.... so why now? - April 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM
- Jeff Chancey said...
Man you got that right.... well done. Just like the season. Well done and krispy...
- April 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM
- HuskerBen said...
They need a new pitching philosophy organization wide. What I am about to suggest isn't traditional, but we need something innovative to be tried to fix the problem.
I would change the philosophy of the minors by adding extra pitching coaches at each level of the organization. I'd have 4 different pitching coaches. I don't think a right handed pitching coach can properly teach a left handed pitcher and vice versa. OK, you say that should only increase it to 2 per level, well I would go even further in breaking the pitchers handedness into two different aspects. Power pitchers and finesse pitchers.
This is where I say the philosophy has failed. Organizationally we currently want everything to be kept down. Power pitchers don't need this theory. They need an in, out, up down philo that teaches them how to pitch in each zone. In keeping the ball down we constantly bounce pitches. It's got to be hard for those guys to always focus on keeping the ball down and then have command and it limits options to in and out and when you miss over them middle even if the ball is down, it's still hittable. Every player has holes in their swing, it's not epidemic to the Royals only. The Royals need to take advantage of this fact and teach their pitchers to move the eyes of the hitter all over the place and make them feel uncomfortable with what selection they might see. I also feel like the philosophy is hurting the Royals arms. Their release point is always geared to be down in the zone. For power guys I think they would be better served to let it air out once in a while and that just might take some stress off their arms. - April 25, 2012 at 5:24 PM
- Greg Cook said...
KC I feel your pain. From a state that gave us Truman, you should not be asked to bear the unbearable pain of badly managed baseball.
I am a Milwaukee fan, back to the Braves, and have suffered some terrible years, but 2008 was nearly a disaster until the owner pulled Nervous Ned out of the job and gave it to the now Cubs manager to run into the playoffs. Without that move, we may have failed to get to the playoffs.
Ned changes a batting order more than I change out paper napkins while eating slathered ribs. He has a reason for everything and an excuse to boot. Count on how many fingers he admits it was his fault--I bet you don't get past your pointer.
For the love of Mike and the fact he is going to get paid anyway, send the man home. There are friends of mine who would be better managers. - April 25, 2012 at 5:30 PM
Royals won. - April 25, 2012 at 9:16 PM
- Captain Corvus 42 said...
Thank you for your insightful analysis of the Royals. A friend told me about your blog two years ago. I never miss a posting. You're awesome!
I've been a KC Royals fan since 1975. I share your passion for the Royals (though not your knowledge and understanding).
I don't blame you. Take some time off. Enjoy your kids. Have a great summer.
I'm still optimistic. We'll be watching the Royals play meaningful baseball in October again one day.... - April 25, 2012 at 10:38 PM
- TY said...
Childhood loyalties are hard to break, but not impossible. I grew up listening to the Angels, suffered through the heartbreak of 1986, and reveled in 2002. But I've never really liked the way the Angels have put their teams together, and the ridiculous Pujols contract was the last straw.
I've since decided that my new favorite team is the Tampa Bay Rays, a smart, spirited team that deserves to be admired. - April 25, 2012 at 11:21 PM
- Kenneth said...
One game winning streak ! you back now Rany :-)
- April 25, 2012 at 11:50 PM
- K.C.Tigerfan said...
My first love has always been the Detroit Tigers, as I grew up in Detroit. I have lived in KC for 23 years, though, and I have adopted the Royals as my new favorite team.
When you root for a franchise that sets the modern-day record for losses in a season, then you can come cry to me.
And what turned the Tigers around? A front office that gets it and an owner unafraid to spend money without a guaranteed return on his investment.
Guys (and gals) the real problem, the one problem that cannot be fixed, is the Royals ownership. Glass doesn't care about bringing a champion to KC, he only cares about making money.
TELL ME I'M WRONG. - April 26, 2012 at 9:41 AM
- Antonio. said...
That Detroit team lost due to a lack of talent more than due to idiocy. And that's just one season...and they were in the Series just a few years later. Not the same thing.
- April 26, 2012 at 6:13 PM
- K.C.Tigerfan said...
Not true, Antonio. For one thing, that season was merely the worst in a decades long funk. Also, the lack of talent and the crap we trotted out to manage it is a function of the idiocy of the franchise. But when Illitch bought the team, things started to change.
His willingness to overpay brought Pudge, then Sheffield, and he wasn't scared to draft good players due to signability concerns.
Plus he hired Dombrowski, who in turn hired Leyland. - April 27, 2012 at 10:15 AM
- K.C.Tigerfan said...
My point is: even the Royals could turn it around but it will take MONEY, which Glass is not willing to invest.
- April 27, 2012 at 10:17 AM
- Antonio. said...
Illitch bought the team in '92. From '94-03, Detroit won 664 games. Between '02-'11, Kansas City won 668 games...but without the benefit of two strike-shortened seasons that hurt Detroit's win total from the decade you pointed out. And as so many Dayton apologists will say, it takes 8-12 years to fully turn around an organization, but Detroit made it back from its low point by its third season.
So my point is, "When you root for a franchise that sets the modern-day record for losses in a season, then you can come cry to me," is a sorely misguided statement to make. Yes, when comparing any given year, Detroit takes the cake, but when it comes to mediocrity and continued mediocrity, the game is all Kansas City's. Especially considering Detroit has been in the play offs three times since KC was... - April 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM
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- April 28, 2012 at 12:54 AM
- Jayboid said...
I am convinced ownership in most instances means nothing.
In any sport. Desire to win world championsips is the key.
Money invested in vastly overated. Tampa should be a joke, they are nothing but one. Bet the ownership wants to win, yet they can't pay to keep the light on most off seasons.
I've heard from several good sources only 8-10 NFL owners really care about winning.
If money and ownership combined meant world series championships why doesn't Boston or NY Yanks win it every year.
St. Louis......Albert Pujols = luck
New England Pats....Tom Brady = luck
Yanks.......Jeter.....Rivera...and cast playing so well for so long luck, the fact they lost Hilman to the Royals = luck
The Bosox and running out of luck, or good fortune. Call it what you want but check out who's playing SS for them on 4-29. Sounds pathetic.
At this time in space I have no doubt the Yanks/Redsox would trade team for team (minors too) for what the Royals have right now. The whole team, and salary as well.
Think about it, Glass can sit in an owners group and boast. Will we win a World Series, probably not. I doubt we have the desire to really win, the killer instinct.
We used to be lucky and under Kaufman a winning way. Brett...luck...Frank White....luck
Ewing Kaufman win
And we now have a former grocery store owner running the team. Bosox NY are millions invested in front office staff, yet Glass is beating them on 4-29-2009
Illitch.....buys an aging drug pumping catcher who could have tanked, turns into a team builder adn they turn into a great team. Luck - April 28, 2012 at 9:48 AM
- Pat Dunn said...
Love your blog and I will miss the frequent updates, but as with the hopeless, hapless friend you have to let go of and let them fall as far add they need to, we have to accept that Royals' management needs to beat heads against the wall until they get frustrated enough to finally ask for help. That's assuming, of course, that they are not clinically insane.
- April 29, 2012 at 11:31 AM
- K.C.Tigerfan said...
Rany - would yo take a position with the Royals front office if they asked for help? Clearly, as you have oftentimes noted, the Royals either don't understand sabermetrical analysis or they just don't care.
Also, looking towards the draft, can someone explain how teams evaluate or compare high schoolers versus college players? - May 1, 2012 at 3:24 PM
- Drew Milner said...
Come back, Rany!
- May 2, 2012 at 3:02 PM
- Jen said...
I think any loyal Royal fan can understand that occasional separation periods are necessary. Absence makes the heart grow fonder and all! Still, I find myself checking your blog every few days for an update, disappointed when there isn't one. I respect your decision and philosophy, but I hope you know how many people will be overjoyed when you find the time to post again!
- May 3, 2012 at 5:11 PM
- Tampa Mike said...
Why do Yankee fans always have to go there? Anytime someone is playing well for another team they have to chime in with "he is going to look good in pinstripes". Yea, real clever. How is that even fandom? It's like rooting for US Steel or Wal-Mart.
- May 4, 2012 at 9:40 AM
- kward1 said...
I love to read your post, but please don't let the Royals winning or losing determine if you continue to write. Why must you always let everyone know whenever you decide to take a break from writing, are you looking for attention? In closing, I love the Royals and your articles about them, but don't need all the drama.
Ken - May 7, 2012 at 7:17 AM
- Kenneth said...
it seems like a different time when i read your blog about pitching optimism. We were employing Kyle Davies every fifth day. But still we were hoping Hochevar might finally develop and a couple of the four lefties from the minor might develop. Turns out attrition rate of minor leagues is accurate. For the Royals it only affects their pitchers not their hitters.
- May 7, 2012 at 1:12 PM
- Matt said...
For those asking him to come back, just listen to him on 610 and 810, he's on there all the time...
- May 9, 2012 at 1:49 PM
- Drew Milner said...
Time to come back, Rany!
- May 16, 2012 at 1:41 AM
- K.C.Tigerfan said...
"When they are ready to lift me up again, I'll be here"...or words to that effect. WELL?
- May 16, 2012 at 8:37 AM
- Phil said...
Perhaps you should have saved the "Jonah" moniker for yourself.
- May 16, 2012 at 1:57 PM
- Kenneth said...
- May 25, 2012 at 1:59 PM
- Unknown said...
How about start a new blog. This one about baseball in general... And the if the Royals happen to get a little extra coverage compared to the rest of the league, so be it. It will be a novelty. Won't hurt my feeling a bit.
For this new blog, sell adds, make a little money and write about anything that interests you in the game. I just enjoy and value your insight.
If not, that's cool too. Thanks for all. - May 25, 2012 at 4:59 PM


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This is TALK OF THE NATION. I'm Jacki Lyden, in Washington. Neal Conan is away. Come hell or high water, these days, it can feel like the same thing. More than half of Americans live within 50 miles of the coast, and still more live by rivers and lakes. What is this primal human pull to the water's edge?
Not everyone lives where they do by conscious choice. Often, it's because of a job or family. But lakefront, oceanfront, riverfront, we want to go there, just like our forebears did. And as Hurricane Sandy made painfully clear, living near the water can present a torrent of dangers as sea levels rise.
So we want to know: What draws you to live by the water? Tell us your story. Our number is 800-989-8255. Our email address is firstname.lastname@example.com, and you can join the conversation at our website. Go to npr.org and click on TALK OF THE NATION. Later in the program, Pete Townsend joins from The Who, and he'll be talking to us about his new memoir.
But first, living by the water. And let's begin with a call. Dennis is calling from Sacramento, California.
Welcome to TALK OF THE NATION, Dennis.
DENNIS: Thank you. I appreciate being on.
LYDEN: So why - Sacramento's not really so near the water, as I recall.
DENNIS: Well, Sacramento is - the Sacramento River is one of the rivers that's always talked about as being right behind the Mississippi as prone to flooding, although it hasn't flooded for quite a while. And I grew up in Sacramento, so the ability to live right by the river where I can see it from my living room window, it was just a draw to watching the blue herons fly around and see the river flow and the boats go by. It's like nothing else. It's really important to us.
LYDEN: It sounds beautiful, and you seem to be living there by choice. You mentioned the Mississippi, which I covered an enormous flood there in the early '90s. It was seven miles across. Have you had that kind of experience in Sacramento?
DENNIS: No, the river has risen. We've seen it rise to where it starts looking like we should be concerned. But it hasn't broke - breached any levies, or overtopped any banks or anything. But then, of course, that's always a possibility. There are several dams on the Sacramento that help control that flood possibility, but, you know, sometimes things can go awry.
LYDEN: All right. Well, thank you for sharing that with us, Dennis. Let's go now to John, who's calling from Savannah, Georgia.
Welcome to TALK OF THE NATION, John.
JOHN: Hey. Thank you for having me on.
LYDEN: Thanks for coming on. So you are living where, near a tidal basin?
JOHN: I live on a tidal creek with marsh, looking out on an island that's owned by the Girl Scouts. So it's basically uninhabited. But it's just an amazing spot, and just watching the seasons change on a marsh is a really unique experience. It's just incredible.
LYDEN: How long have you been there?
JOHN: Thirty years.
LYDEN: And do you ever feel that there's any risk to where you live? It sounds like it's pretty low.
JOHN: Yeah, I mean, when you - well, no, actually, fortunately, we're about 24 feet above sea level. So it's actually pretty high for a coastal area where the house is. And you feel somewhat protected, a little bit, by having marsh around you, also. But, you know, it's risky. I mean, we watched Hugo barreling in, and it turned right at the last minute and unfortunately hit Charleston. But, you know, you just pay attention and have a plan and hope for the best.
LYDEN: OK. Well, thank you. We hope your luck continues to hold, John, there in Savannah.
JOHN: OK, thank you. All right.
LYDEN: But living by the water is not without its risk, and one person who knows more about the risk than most is Klaus Jacob, a research scientist at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory. He's been studying disaster risk management for decades, and for many years, he had warned of New York's vulnerability to severe flooding in a major storm. And he lives in Piermont, New York, along the Hudson River. And when Hurricane Sandy hit, he wasn't spared the storm surge.
And thank you very much for joining us, Klaus.
KLAUS JACOB: Thank you very much on having me.
LYDEN: Are you drying out?
JACOB: Slowly, yeah. We got power back.
LYDEN: Well, I don't imagine that you are running around the city saying I told you so, and yet, tell us, you came to live on a river, even though you had been - you were - are a scientist and predicting that the area, with all its coastline, was vulnerable.
JACOB: Yeah. It sounds like an irony and contradiction, but it is not. And here's the story. My wife wanted to move to the border, and I didn't. So we compromised. We said OK. We buy the house, even though it's by the water, tidal water, similar to, like, the gentleman from Savannah, John, who lives on a tidal creek.
And we bought the house with one compromise that I insisted on, that we would raise the house. So we bought the house. We were going to raise it, and then we found out that we could raise it only one foot because the zoning laws didn't allow us to raise it higher because it would be too high for the neighborhood. And there was one option to raise it more by chopping off the third floor, which we maybe foolishly, whatever, not did.
And so we really couldn't do the mitigation that we wanted to do and I had planned to do. And talking now to my building inspector and the mayor and others in the village, I think they are now ready to give us that option to raise it beyond what was before not allowed. So...
LYDEN: Right, so you'll be able to go higher and therefore get off of the first floor and move up the...
JACOB: Yeah, and maybe raise it above the 100-year FEMA flood zone. But, obviously, Sandy was smarter than us. And so we suffered about one-and-a-half feet of water in the living room.
LYDEN: Klaus, what exactly was the warning that you had been sounding about New York's vulnerabilities?
JACOB: Well, first, we started a study in New York City that Mayor Bloomberg called upon a science and engineering commission called the New York Panel on Climate Change. And when we did that study, we had an inkling that something wasn't quite right here in New York City for much of the infrastructure in some neighborhoods.
And then the state, when it saw that New York City was really moving along on this, didn't want to fall behind, and they commissioned a study. And so in rapid sequence from the year 2010 to 2012, these two studies came out. And I was in charge of two chapters, namely transportation and communication infrastructure.
And with the help of a lot of Columbia graduate students and one of the engineering professors - a colleague of mine, George Deodatis - we went to work and put a 100-year flood into New York City, and then we asked our first question: Where would the water go?
And we got a lot of help from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority and the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to give us all the details of the openings, the subway entrances, the ventilation grades and all these wonderful things. Then we put the students to work, and they calculate how fast the water runs in. And sure enough, the answer was in 40 minutes, most of - actually all of the tunnels that cross the East River and the Harlem River would be flooded.
Lo and behold, Sandy did it, and proved us - unfortunately - right. It's not always a happy ending if you are right.
LYDEN: No, no, obviously not. Well, and yet it seems that we want to be by that water. Let's take another call from Bill. He is calling from another hurricane zone.
Bill, welcome to TALK OF THE NATION from Slidell, Louisiana.
BILL: Yeah, good afternoon, Jacki. Yeah, after even Hurricane Katrina, just living on the water, just the serenity, it's the calmness, it's the peace. I grew up in South Jersey, so I got, actually, family who were minimally impacted by Sandy. But just looking at the pictures of the Jersey Shore is just heartbreaking. But we always come back to the water.
LYDEN: It must bring back - well, Bill, I could ask you a lot of things, but it must bring back memories, number one. And, two, I see you are still on the water.
BILL: Yes. It brings back a lot of memoires. The first thing I was thinking was take it seriously. We've evacuated seven times since we've been down here. In 2004, the military brought me here, and we retired here. And all I kept thinking was take it seriously. This is not, you know, the boy crying wolf. You've got to take these things seriously, because lives are at stake.
You could replace property. And I saw the families, especially over in Staten Island. And just seeing that, it's just, it's devastating and heartbreaking. And, you know, we reach out to them monetarily, do we can to help them out, but you've got to take this stuff seriously. You can always rebuild.
LYDEN: OK. Thank you so much, Bill. And let's go now to Christina(ph), who's calling from Alameda, California.
Welcome to TALK OF THE NATION, Christina.
CHRISTINA: Oh, hi. Good morning. You know, I would never - I just don't think I could live too far inland where you couldn't smell the water or know that - you can actually feel, in my basement, when the water table, when it's high tide, my basement floor gets really cold. And I come upstairs, and I said to my neighbor, I said, oh, it's got to be high tide. Check the tide table. My basement's so cold.
So we do have a really low water table. We actually gave - the city gave the shoreline area over to the state, because we couldn't handle the erosion.
LYDEN: And what water are you near?
CHRISTINA: I'm actually facing - I'm next door to Oakland. I'm - there's an estuary in between Alameda and Oakland, and it would Oakland, Berkeley, and then to the right would be San Leandro. But to the near right would be Bay Farm Island, which is also part of Alameda.
And everybody knows the Alameda Naval Air Station. And so we're just this body of water. Like my sister says, I guess we're just a big sand dune.
LYDEN: And you like it that way.
CHRISTINA: Well, the beach - you know, I lived on the beach for 14 years, and the erosion is so bad now that this morning, I was down there walking, and at high tide, there is no beach. I mean, there's just the beach, and then there's just this sheer drop of about eight feet, and the water's lapping against the shore. So...
LYDEN: It continues - thank you so much, Christina. It continues to be this primal pull, living near the water, even when we know that disaster can lurk. And we're speaking with Klaus Jacob, who is a research scientist at Columbia University. If you choose to live by the water, tell us why. Our number is 800-989-8255. The email address is firstname.lastname@example.com. We'll be back in a minute. I'm Jacki Lyden. This is TALK OF THE NATION, from NPR News.
LYDEN: This is TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. And as we heard, living near water presents a risk, and as sea levels rise, and the risks are increasing, it's easy to ignore the dangers, and we often place ourselves squarely in harm's way. Yet we continue to want to live there.
Let's take another call. We're speaking with Dave, who is calling from James Island, South Carolina. Welcome to TALK OF THE NATION, Dave.
DAVE: Thank you so much. We live here for surfing. My wife and I and my daughter are - we've been surfing forever, and we come here for the waves. Matter of fact, you know, as hard as it is to see these hurricanes offshore, we can't wait for hurricane season to come because the swells are so great.
And, you know, we were some of the folks who got hit by Hugo. So, you know, we're certainly in the bull's eye. But like the last caller from Louisiana said, you know, you have your plan to get out, you know where you're going to go, you keep track. So for us it's sort of a double-edged sword. We keep track with our surfboards waxed and waiting for the swell to come in and then get ready to get the heck out of there if we need to.
So, but it just draws us, you know, and there's nothing better than surfing in a good hurricane swell on (unintelligible) island. It's just - you know, we save our vacation days to be able to do it.
LYDEN: Thank you, Dave. Klaus, what do you make of Dave's willingness to take what sounds to me like a lot of risk? And I also want to hear about what happened to your own home in Sandy.
JACOB: Well, I think what James(ph) is doing is fine. He uses the ocean as entertainment, but if you build structures and infrastructure, that is different than surfing. We have invested billions, actually trillions, of dollars in surf zones, and surfing is fine, but you don't put subways or sewage treatment plants or nuclear power plants or regular power plants in the way of a hurricane if you have no protection.
And that's where our nation is right now. We are unprotected. We have seen it in New Orleans when we even thought we were protected. And the real story is here, that as sea level rises, right now you need roughly a hundred year storm to make a disaster like now we have gone through a week ago. By the year 2100, by the end of the century, on a nice, sunny day, without winds, you will have the water level just about one foot below where Sandy was 10 days ago.
And that will be the new reality. And then you have weather and storms on top of it. And the question is: How does the nation approach this whole issue? Some call for barriers to be built. That may be locally justified for a certain limited period of time, maybe 50, at most 100 years.
But as we still put greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, we have front-loaded that gun, and the ocean will keep rising, and it will rising above any barrier levels, they will become dysfunctional, as we have seen it during Katrina in New Orleans.
So we have to combine these engineering defenses with smart, coastal land-use policies. We will have to retreat to higher ground where there is higher ground, and we will have to retreat farther inland where there is no higher ground. There is no way that the entire United States can defend itself like The Netherlands has tried to do, and they are struggling with that right now.
LYDEN: Klaus Jacob, thank you so much for joining us. Klaus Jacob is a research scientist at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory, and he's been studying disaster risk management for decades. And we hope that you, yourself, in Piermont, New York, recover well, get the cars replaced, and we're just glad that you are OK. Thank you so very much, Klaus.
JACOB: Thank you for your well wishes, thank you.
LYDEN: And now we're joined by David Ropeik, who is a consultant in risk perception and risk management, and he studies the psychology of risk perception. Last week he wrote a piece for Psychology Today called "Why Do We Live in Harm's Way," which you can find a link to at our website at TALK OF THE NATION. David Ropeik, welcome to TALK OF THE NATION.
DAVID ROPEIK: Hi, Jacki, how are you?
LYDEN: Doing just fine, thinking about some of these calls. You've been listening, I know. You know, you've heard about why we live there. You've heard about Klaus' warnings. How do we respond to these risks?
ROPEIK: Well, it's actually interesting. I was particularly struck by Professor Jacobs', let me put this politely, justification for taking the risk that he knew he was taking, right.
LYDEN: That's right.
ROPEIK: He did the same thing that all your other callers did. He was living in harm's way, and there were advantages to it, and basically here's how it works. And by the way, I'm citing the research of many smarter people than me. I'm more of a journalist who's read up on this stuff.
LYDEN: All right.
ROPEIK: We talk ourselves into doing things that have benefit, but also risk, by playing down the risk. We want to do risky stuff. I wanted to be on NPR today. I risked my life driving to get here.
LYDEN: Thank you.
ROPEIK: You know, I mean, it's not dissimilar. All over our lives, we do risky things that we know are risky, and we have a bunch of mental tools that allow us to play down the risk and bungee-jump our way through life. And so that's - psychologists call this risk versus benefit. The greater the benefit of a choice, the more mentally we are going to play games, use mental tools, I don't want to be pejorative, to play down the risk, as the professor did living on the water. That's fine, none of my business.
So what are those tools? One is called optimism bias: It won't happen to me.
LYDEN: Right.
ROPEIK: You've heard some of your callers say it. We say it to ourselves all the time with all kinds of risk: The storm will hit up the beach; the flood won't hit me; that guy who said he's 24 feet high, does that feel safer than 22 feet? Well, it didn't during Hugo. It won't happen to me.
A second one is we deny the power of nature by pretending that we have control. You covered the Mississippi flood. You saw the people with the sandbags. People board up their homes. We do all sorts of things - we buy generators, I have lots of friends in New York and Long Island and family who are still without power who protected themselves all sorts of ways and stayed because they thought by doing something they had taken some control over the risk. Well, nature scoffs at that, of course. But psychologically, if we think we have a way of taking control, we can play down the risk in our head and live on the water, which is beautiful.
Then there is a third problem, and it's called the problems - well, I call it we have problems with probability. We have an intuitive sense of how the odds work and probability works. Unfortunately, it doesn't match reality. So many people who live where there's a 100-year flood or a 500-year flood, and I can't tell you how many people have told FEMA and the Army Corps of Engineers to get rid of that lousy language, and they persist because they say the law requires them to. It's lousy language, and here's why.
If you think something is a 100-year flood, and it just happened, you've got 99 years before the next one, right?
LYDEN: That's true.
ROPEIK: No, the weather hasn't gotten that memo yet. Probability doesn't work that way. If I flip a coin five times, and it comes up heads over that short a span, the sixth time is just as likely to come up heads, and yet that's not how our intuitive probability works.
That explains, for example, why people who live on rivers are so poor at buying flood insurance. The uptake is very poor in those zones, as well as in places along the coast. Well, we just had Sandy, phew, New York's good for, like, whatever, a decade, a hundred years.
ROPEIK: So, but all of these things - forgive the soliloquy here. All of these things are - it's really important to know this - subconscious. This is - you know, we're talking about here consciously, right, as though it's rational.
LYDEN: Suppressed in our optimism bias.
ROPEIK: Yes, suppressed in all sorts of things that let us do risk choices, but they're innately subjective. And so when Professor Jacob, somewhat naively I think, talks about retreating to higher ground, well, that's going to be hard to do with a third of the population of the planet.
We want to live in these places. We are innately going to want to live in these places. A better way to deal with it is his suggestion and others, building codes, economic incentives and disincentives, zoning codes. There's a beach in Massachusetts - I used to be a TV reporter - that floods all the time during the storms. It just recently did.
The people who have houses that are damaged there can rebuild only if they drive pylons down to bedrock and raise their house 18 feet above the water. OK.
LYDEN: OK, well Dave Ropeik, let's go to a city where people are not going to be able to do that, but neither, I think, are they going to move. Let's check out the optimism bias of Harry(ph) in San Francisco, California. Welcome to TALK OF THE NATION, Harry, if he's - and I think that perhaps Harry has gone. Let's then go to Ginger(ph), who's calling us from Ashland, Oregon. Welcome to TALK OF THE NATION, Ginger.
GINGER: Thank you, Jacki. I - I'm actually in Central America right now and just outside of Des Moines, but I live in Ashland indeed. I just want to echo some of the things, of course, that people have said. And I also want to mention that I grew up in Minnesota, and so the draw of water, I think, is universal, whether it's salt or fresh. I can smell water from miles away. One of your other callers said something, in fact, you know, nothing like smelling that.
I went to the flood of Fargo-Moorhead in '97, so I also understand that people are very hard-pressed to really take Mother Nature seriously and prepare. In one way, there's no way we can predict. It doesn't matter what the forecasts are like. But I just want to chime in and say it doesn't - to me, it doesn't matter what kind of water it is. That allure and that fascination is pretty universal. So thanks.
LYDEN: But, Ginger...
GINGER: Yes.
LYDEN: ...don't go away just yet. When you hear Dave Ropeik say, this is why people do it, and they think it isn't going to happen to them, and you've already witnessed the flood in Fargo, one of the most significant interior floods that we had in the last 15 years, does it all go in one ear and out the other?
GINGER: I don't think so, and I guess - I think there's a lot of context. Freshwater is different from saltwater in the fact that there is some land border in an interior way. At the same time, I think it echoes some of your other guests' comments, is that we believe what we want to believe. And if it hasn't happened to us - our recent memory as a population is extremely short.
So we're ever the optimist. We're Americans. We're going to make it happen. Then something happens. We're like, oh, no, I should have listened to that. So it's - you know, at our core, we're emotional beings. And so there's really going to never be a static response or way, that even if we think we want to react that way, we may not because when it comes down to it, we go with our gut and our emotions.
LYDEN: OK. Thank you very much, Ginger. Dave, I want to take another call if we can, and let's go here to Daniel(ph), who's calling from Treasure Island, Texas.
DANIEL: Good afternoon. I think - I live on a very narrow peninsula, at the very end of it, which means I'm surrounded by water on basically three sides. We're not much above sea level. My home is 16 feet off the ground, but even that's not today, that's eight years ago when my home was built. Now they're building them 22 feet off the ground.
You can prepare, but you can never underestimate Mother Nature. It's - the - I stood - when Ike was coming on my porch and prayed that it would just go 30 or 40 miles down the beach from me, and then I would be on the clean side of the storm, and in fact that's what happened. And unfortunately, for the people on Bolivar Peninsula, another narrow peninsula, their homes were wiped away, literally just nothing. There was nothing left. It is a risk you take, and I don't think that I negated or belittle it or don't know it's possible.
LYDEN: So, Daniel, I just want to jump in. What is the draw of living there then? You're talking about sort of the prayer option, the prayer insurance. It must be powerful.
DANIEL: Yeah. I'm about a thousand feet from the water. I'm not right on the water, but to get up in the morning and to look out and to see that beautiful water and those beautiful sunrises and sunsets and the wildlife, like the other fellow was talking.
There's red-tailed hawk and kites and all kinds of just beautiful bird and waterfowl, and the sound of the ocean at night when you're going to sleep. And my house being off the ground, if there's a good wind, the house sort of sways a little bit, and it's just a - it's a feeling that's wonderful.
But you do have to know to get out. I also survived Alicia in '82 and even Irene or Allison a few years back. And that was just the (technical difficulty) of water falling. I think you have to think of what the Earth looks like from the - from space and know that, you know, this has been going on for a million years.
You can never stop the force of nature. Ike left gashes in the Earth 40, 50 feet wide and literally hundreds of feet long. It's going to happen, and it's going to happen again no matter where you look. You can just tell by the topography of the Earth. You think about the Grand Canyon.
DANIEL: You know, it was cut by a stream, and you look at that beautiful, beautiful thing.
LYDEN: All right. Daniel, thank you so much for calling in from Treasure Island, Texas. By the way, you're listening to TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. Let's just try and get one more call in here. Leslie(ph) is calling from Pensacola, Florida.
LESLIE: Yes.
LYDEN: Hi, Leslie.
LESLIE: Hi. I just wanted to say that I grew up in coastal Connecticut, so I've lived on the water most of my life. But after having lived through Hurricane Ivan, I would never live on the water again.
LYDEN: And so you finally - you are one who reached the tipping point and left.
LESLIE: I live - my new house is not in a flood zone. It's on a hill. And even then, every hurricane season, as I buy my supplies and get ready, I'm just filled with terror because I never experienced anything like that. And, you know, when the floodwaters go up so that they take out an entire highway bridge, you know, there's no way to prepare for that.
LYDEN: OK. Thank you, Leslie. David Ropeik, you've been listening to a lot of these calls now, and I understand that you and your wife are looking for a home close to the water.
ROPEIK: On the water, and we saw one the other day. It was on a pond, and my wife said, nah, it's not a broad enough view.
LYDEN: So shall we be listening to a thing you say?
ROPEIK: Well, yeah, because I'm just as guilty of being human as the next guy. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong or smart or stupid. What I'm describing are innate truths about - and your listeners and callers are all evidencing all of this sort of stuff - truths about how we work our way through the decisions of our life, and cognition is not perfectly fact-based and rational. And all these patterns do lead us sometimes to put ourselves in harm's way not only on the water, but there are a lot of people living on earthquake zones and under volcanoes and whatnot.
And so because it's innate - and true of me and my wife as much as the next guy. In fact, Daniel was calling from Treasure Island, it sounded like he was on the beach. I wanted to go to the beach, you know?
LYDEN: It did sound like he was on the beach. But I love...
ROPEIK: I love the water. And we love the water. And all of those reasons we love the water, those who choose to live on the water - most of us live there because circumstances have put us there - those are real and valid reasons. But as a matter of policy, the governor of New York, today, asked the federal government for $30 billion to recover because some of what Professor Jacob's suggested in terms of protecting infrastructure hasn't been done. Well, that's going to come out of everybody's pocket.
So we need to look for ways to account for this innate, subjective human nature in the policies that we've set because we're always going to want to live in pretty places.
LYDEN: Including you. Just in 10 seconds, so what are your criteria for your place?
ROPEIK: Affordable, not too far from where I am and high.
ROPEIK: Having a good view.
LYDEN: All right. David Ropeik is a consultant of risk perception and risk management, and he's the author of "Risk: A Practical Guide for Deciding What's Dangerous and What's Safe in the World Around You," and he joined us from member station WBUR in Boston. David Ropeik, thanks very, very much.
ROPEIK: Great show. Glad you're having the conversation.
LYDEN: And after a quick break, rock star Pete Townshend joins us. You'll want to stay with us for this. I'm Jackie Lyden. It's TALK OF THE NATION from NPR News. Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR.


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The simple search box (in the heading of the website) searches for items across all fields in all collections for all terms that you put in the search box, in any order. For example, if you search for "westward migration", the search engine searches for items containing "westward" AND "migration". (Or click advanced search to use other types of searches.)
The simple search box supports the use of a wildcard operator that enables you to search for approximate terms. Using an asterisk (*) at the end of a search term will search for results with none, or any number of any characters appended to the root search term. For example, test* will find results with the words "test," "tests," "tested" and so on.
After using the simple search or Advanced Search, you can start a new simple search by typing the search term and selecting New Search instead of Within Results. To clear an Advanced Search, click the Clear All button.
After using the simple search or Advanced Search, you can make your initial results more specific by searching Within Results from the simple search box or by choosing from the keywords listed in the Narrow Your Search By box. You also can add or remove collections from the search.
If you have narrowed your search too far, you can step back and display previous results by removing the keywords you used in your search path (click the X next to the search term displayed at the top of your results).
The Advanced Search pane enables you to select specific collections and to build a more complex search query on selected fields.
First determine which search to use (across all fields, by selected fields or by date). The default selection is to search across all fields.
Then build your query and specify the collections to search. Add more search fields by clicking Add Another Field and selecting a connector (And or Or). Reduce the number of search fields by clicking Remove. You can have as many as four search fields and as few as one field.
Advanced Search offers four search types (or operators):