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A transcript of President Obama's remarks on possible U.S. military action in Syria, as released by the White House:
Good afternoon, everybody. Ten days ago, the world watched in horror as men, women and children were massacred in Syria in the worst chemical weapons attack of the 21st century. Yesterday the United States presented a powerful case that the Syrian government was responsible for this attack on its own people.
Our intelligence shows the Assad regime and its forces preparing to use chemical weapons, launching rockets in the highly populated suburbs of Damascus, and acknowledging that a chemical weapons attack took place. And all of this corroborates what the world can plainly see — hospitals overflowing with victims; terrible images of the dead. All told, well over 1,000 people were murdered. Several hundred of them were children — young girls and boys gassed to death by their own government.
This attack is an assault on human dignity. It also presents a serious danger to our national security. It risks making a mockery of the global prohibition on the use of chemical weapons. It endangers our friends and our partners along Syria's borders, including Israel, Jordan, Turkey, Lebanon and Iraq. It could lead to escalating use of chemical weapons, or their proliferation to terrorist groups who would do our people harm.
In a world with many dangers, this menace must be confronted.
Now, after careful deliberation, I have decided that the United States should take military action against Syrian regime targets. This would not be an open-ended intervention. We would not put boots on the ground. Instead, our action would be designed to be limited in duration and scope. But I'm confident we can hold the Assad regime accountable for their use of chemical weapons, deter this kind of behavior, and degrade their capacity to carry it out.
Our military has positioned assets in the region. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs has informed me that we are prepared to strike whenever we choose. Moreover, the Chairman has indicated to me that our capacity to execute this mission is not time-sensitive; it will be effective tomorrow, or next week, or one month from now. And I'm prepared to give that order.
But having made my decision as Commander-in-Chief based on what I am convinced is our national security interests, I'm also mindful that I'm the President of the world's oldest constitutional democracy. I've long believed that our power is rooted not just in our military might, but in our example as a government of the people, by the people, and for the people. And that's why I've made a second decision: I will seek authorization for the use of force from the American people's representatives in Congress.
Over the last several days, we've heard from members of Congress who want their voices to be heard. I absolutely agree. So this morning, I spoke with all four congressional leaders, and they've agreed to schedule a debate and then a vote as soon as Congress comes back into session.
In the coming days, my administration stands ready to provide every member with the information they need to understand what happened in Syria and why it has such profound implications for America's national security. And all of us should be accountable as we move forward, and that can only be accomplished with a vote.
I'm confident in the case our government has made without waiting for U.N. inspectors. I'm comfortable going forward without the approval of a United Nations Security Council that, so far, has been completely paralyzed and unwilling to hold Assad accountable. As a consequence, many people have advised against taking this decision to Congress, and undoubtedly, they were impacted by what we saw happen in the United Kingdom this week when the Parliament of our closest ally failed to pass a resolution with a similar goal, even as the Prime Minister supported taking action.
Yet, while I believe I have the authority to carry out this military action without specific congressional authorization, I know that the country will be stronger if we take this course, and our actions will be even more effective. We should have this debate, because the issues are too big for business as usual. And this morning, John Boehner, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell agreed that this is the right thing to do for our democracy.
A country faces few decisions as grave as using military force, even when that force is limited. I respect the views of those who call for caution, particularly as our country emerges from a time of war that I was elected in part to end. But if we really do want to turn away from taking appropriate action in the face of such an unspeakable outrage, then we just acknowledge the costs of doing nothing.
Here's my question for every member of Congress and every member of the global community: What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price? What's the purpose of the international system that we've built if a prohibition on the use of chemical weapons that has been agreed to by the governments of 98 percent of the world's people and approved overwhelmingly by the Congress of the United States is not enforced?
Make no mistake — this has implications beyond chemical warfare. If we won't enforce accountability in the face of this heinous act, what does it say about our resolve to stand up to others who flout fundamental international rules? To governments who would choose to build nuclear arms? To terrorist who would spread biological weapons? To armies who carry out genocide?
We cannot raise our children in a world where we will not follow through on the things we say, the accords we sign, the values that define us.
So just as I will take this case to Congress, I will also deliver this message to the world. While the U.N. investigation has some time to report on its findings, we will insist that an atrocity committed with chemical weapons is not simply investigated, it must be confronted.
I don't expect every nation to agree with the decision we have made. Privately we've heard many expressions of support from our friends. But I will ask those who care about the writ of the international community to stand publicly behind our action.
And finally, let me say this to the American people: I know well that we are weary of war. We've ended one war in Iraq. We're ending another in Afghanistan. And the American people have the good sense to know we cannot resolve the underlying conflict in Syria with our military. In that part of the world, there are ancient sectarian differences, and the hopes of the Arab Spring have unleashed forces of change that are going to take many years to resolve. And that's why we're not contemplating putting our troops in the middle of someone else's war.
Instead, we'll continue to support the Syrian people through our pressure on the Assad regime, our commitment to the opposition, our care for the displaced, and our pursuit of a political resolution that achieves a government that respects the dignity of its people.
But we are the United States of America, and we cannot and must not turn a blind eye to what happened in Damascus. Out of the ashes of world war, we built an international order and enforced the rules that gave it meaning. And we did so because we believe that the rights of individuals to live in peace and dignity depends on the responsibilities of nations. We aren't perfect, but this nation more than any other has been willing to meet those responsibilities.
So to all members of Congress of both parties, I ask you to take this vote for our national security. I am looking forward to the debate. And in doing so, I ask you, members of Congress, to consider that some things are more important than partisan differences or the politics of the moment.
Ultimately, this is not about who occupies this office at any given time; it's about who we are as a country. I believe that the people's representatives must be invested in what America does abroad, and now is the time to show the world that America keeps our commitments. We do what we say. And we lead with the belief that right makes might — not the other way around.
We all know there are no easy options. But I wasn't elected to avoid hard decisions. And neither were the members of the House and the Senate. I've told you what I believe, that our security and our values demand that we cannot turn away from the massacre of countless civilians with chemical weapons. And our democracy is stronger when the President and the people's representatives stand together.
I'm ready to act in the face of this outrage. Today I'm asking Congress to send a message to the world that we are ready to move forward together as one nation.
Thanks very much.
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Prayer in Time of Old Age
1In you, LORD, I take refuge;a
let me never be put to shame.b
2In your justice rescue and deliver me;
listen to me and save me!
3Be my rock of refuge,
my stronghold to give me safety;
for you are my rock and fortress.c
4My God, rescue me from the hand of the wicked,
from the clutches of the evil and violent.d
5You are my hope, Lord;
my trust, GOD, from my youth.
6On you I have depended since birth;
from my mother's womb you are my strength;e
my hope in you never wavers.
7*I have become a portent to many,
but you are my strong refuge!
8My mouth shall be filled with your praise,
shall sing your glory every day.
9Do not cast me aside in my old age;
as my strength fails, do not forsake me.
10For my enemies speak against me;
they watch and plot against me.f
11They say, "God has abandoned him.
Pursue, and seize him!
No one will come to the rescue!"
12God, be not far from me;
my God, hasten to help me.g
13Bring to a shameful end
those who attack me;
Cover with contempt and scorn
those who seek my ruin.h
14I will always hope in you
and add to all your praise.
15My mouth shall proclaim your just deeds,
day after day your acts of deliverance,
though I cannot number them all.i
16I will speak of the mighty works of the Lord;
O GOD, I will tell of your singular justice.
17God, you have taught me from my youth;
to this day I proclaim your wondrous deeds.
18Now that I am old and gray,j
do not forsake me, God,
That I may proclaim your might
to all generations yet to come,k
Your power 19and justice, God,
to the highest heaven.
You have done great things;l
O God, who is your equal?m
20Whatever bitter afflictions you sent me,
you would turn and revive me.
From the watery depths of the earth
once more raise me up.
21Restore my honor;
turn and comfort me,
22That I may praise you with the lyre
for your faithfulness, my God,
And sing to you with the harp,
O Holy One of Israel!
23My lips will shout for joy as I sing your praise;
my soul, too, which you have redeemed.
24Yes, my tongue shall recount
your justice day by day.
For those who sought my ruin
have been shamed and disgraced.
* [Psalm 71] A lament of an old person (Ps 71:9, 18) whose afflictions are interpreted by enemies as a divine judgment (Ps 71:11). The first part of the Psalm pleads for help (Ps 71:1–4) on the basis of a hope learned from a lifetime's experience of God; the second part describes the menace (Ps 71:9–13) yet remains buoyant (Ps 71:14–16); the third develops the theme of hope and praise.
* [71:7] A portent to many: the afflictions of the sufferer are taken as a manifestation of God's anger, cf. Dt 28:46; Ps 31:12.
h. [71:13] Ps 35:4; 40:15; 70:3.
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BOND CLEANING Woronora Heights
Moving out from your rental property? Your goal should be to receive your bond deposit back completely and in full. You need a 5-star Bond Cleaning Woronora Heights service to make sure this happens. Luckily, Exit Cleans has the end of lease cleaning experts, amazing customer support and unbeaten standards. We have cleaned thousands of Australian homes and have raving reviews from our customers that will recommend our top quality cleaning services. One hundred percent customer satisfaction is our main priority for each and every deep clean we perform.
The sole job of our professional end of lease cleaners is to make sure your property manager is fully proud and satisfied with the state of the property. We do that by following our extensive bond cleaning list, which is important and essential to the best and most effective end of lease clean.
Moving out is often a stressful situation because it comes with the burden of packing, transporting and vacate cleaning. We help to eliminate the strain and stress and labour by professionally cleaning the premises for you. Exit Cleans are the experts in Bond Cleaning in Woronora Heights and use state of the art tools and products. We complete all our cleans based on our standard checklist and any extras you select. This usually depends upon what your property manager requires.
Our team maintain the highest standards of quality with the help of our proven methodology. All our jobs go along with a service guarantee. We are qualified to provide the best results in the most reasonably priced packages. Our efficiency as well as our specific attention to detail make us stand out from the group.
WHAT IS BOND CLEANING Woronora Heights?
Moving out of a rental property for the first time? then you will more than likely not understand what Bond Cleaning is or what's involved. Bond cleaning is also commonly referred to as move out cleaning, exit cleaning, vacate cleaning or end of lease cleaning. What it is called depends on who you ask. Bond Cleaning in Woronora Heights is definitely a mandatory requirement made by the property manager to the tenants so that they'll receive their bond deposit back.
A service for Bond Cleaning in Woronora Heights differs to a one time service and a recurring house cleaning service as the aim is for the cleaners to deep clean each area of the property rather well so as to get everything cleaned to a degree where it's ready for a replacement tenant to move in. We like to follow a comprehensive list so that we can make sure we do our job properly. Please click on the link today to get a free instant quote for a service and hear more about our 72 Hour Guarantee.
Our Bond Return Guarantee only covers the areas you have chosen in your booking.
Please see Exit Cleans full Terms and Conditions.
Bond Cleaning can consist of many different components and it is your duty to ensure you have covered them all. For instance, a complete Bond Clean usually consists of
- Bond Clean (Deep clean of the property)
- Carpet Shampoo Cleaning (Stain Removal Not included)
Specialty Services such as;
- Pest Control
- Pressure Cleaning
- Upholstery Cleaning
- Window Cleaning
Our quoting process covers these items individually, please make sure you have checked your quote for your inclusions. PLEASE NOTE that each item will appear on the quote as a separate service such as:
- Bond Clean
- Carpet Clean
Exit Cleans uses the latest cleaning techniques and products however at times 'normal wear and tear' applies and it is not possible for us to get the item back looking like new. We will however take before and after photos of some items to prove to the Managing Agent that without specialist intervention this is the best condition the item can be in.
- Remove cobwebs, insect marks and small nests where Pest control is not warranted
- Clean fans, Air Conditioners and filters
- Clean light fittings (where they can be safely removed and accessible)
- Spot clean walls, light switches and power points
- Clean skirting, architraves and doors
- Clean drawers and cupboards including inside, doors and cupboard tops and shelving
- Windows clean both sides (exclusions apply at heights and accessibility)
- Vacuum sliding door tracks and clean tracks
- Clean standard blinds, cords and rails (spot clean and dust).
- Vacuum all the floors and carpets.
- Mop hard floors.
- Clean inside and outside and on top of all cupboards, doors and drawers.
- Clean inside, outside and around stove top, elements, rings and knobs.
- Clean inside and outside of oven, grill, doors, trays, racks, glass and knobs.
- Clean inside, outside & behind refrigerator* and dishwasher* & microwave* space. (if applicable)
- Clean and dry sink, drain holes, drainers and polish tap ware.
- Range hood exhaust and filter -filter can be removed and cleaned.
- Clean and polish splash back area.
- Clean exhaust fans
- Clean Inside and outside all cupboards and drawers.
- Clean toilet, behind 'S' bend, around cistern & under and around toilet seat..
- Clean bath, shower recess, remove built up soap residue on tiles and shower screens & soap holder
- Clean sink and polish all tap ware and towel rails.
- Clean mirrors and windows, window tracks and floors.
- Clean Inside and outside all cupboards and drawers.
- Clean inside, outside and behind dryer*. Remove lint. (If applicable)
- Clean inside, outside and around laundry tub, cabinets, shelves, drawers, tap ware.
- Clean behind washing machine* space. Clean equipment and filters (if applicable).
- Clean all walls, windows, window tracks and floors
- Sweep floor and remove cobwebs
- Sweep and mop floors, remove cob webs.
NOTE: Standard blinds are blinds with a surface that can be dusted or cleaned without requiring a specialist and or extra time. For instance, material blinds or curtains would require a Blind specialist. Venetian & Roller blinds will be quoted separately based on the number of blinds in the property. Furnished properties will require a separate quote.
*Cleaning behind/around-these items or any heavy object (as per our Terms and Conditions) over 5Kg must be moved by the client (and put back if applicable)for our cleaners to gain access and clean.
- Dust and wipe over furniture surfaces
- Kitchen cupboards will be cleaned if ALL ITEMS are removed and placed in front of the cupboard. WE TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY or have no liability for any damage or breakages of cupboard items
NOTE: Standard blinds are blinds with a surface that can be dusted or cleaned without requiring a specialist and or extra time. For instance, material blinds or curtains would require a Blind specialist. Venetian & Roller blinds will be quoted separately based on the number of blinds in the property. Furnished properties will require a separate quote.
*Cleaning behind/around-these items or any heavy object (as per our Terms and Conditions) over 5Kg must be moved by the client (and put back if applicable)for our cleaners to gain access and clean.
The following services are quoted separately and will appear on your quote as a separate item.
NOTE: If they are not listed on your quote they are not included.
This list is not definitive. We have only listed the more common services, other specialty services exist such as household repairs, painters etc.
- Carpet Cleaning
- Blinds or Venetians
- Garden Maintenance
- Rubbish Removal
- Furnished Properties
- Pest Control
- Upholstery Cleaning
- Pressure Cleaning
- Wall Washing
These items are excluded from our Bond Cleaning Service unless paid for separately:
- We do our best to remove mould from areas however mould can be embedded into silicon, grout and other areas. These areas will require a specialist to restore back to a normal state.
- Damp spots can happen anywhere in the house, often the plaster can be affected. We will do our best to remove any mould and marks from damp spots however we can't completely make these spots disappear. These marks can return quickly due to excess moisture.
- We spot clean the walls for insect marks etc however, a full wall clean requires more time and often does not have a different result. A full wall clean is only required if marks exist beyond normal 'wear and tear'.
- We will do our best to clean all items with our commercial experience however discoloration happens with normal wear and tear of the property. Often grout, toilets and plastics can discolor (often into a yellow colour) over time and they can't be returned to their original colour without specialist intervention.
- We do our best to remove stains however due to the composition of the tiles or bench tops (some being extremely porous) it is not possible to remove stains without specialist intervention.
- We do not clean ceilings.
- Any areas considered by our cleaner dangerous for them to operate, this includes broken cracked Power Points/switches, rubbish, bio waste or any other hazard than can be deemed dangerous.
- Our cleaners do not clean at heights. Any cleaning that requires a ladder will not be performed. For instance, Windows in a unit complex on the second floor.
- We do not clean Garage walls or floors
- Areas that require special cleaning equipment, specialist chemicals or a trained technician. Examples are Pressure cleaners (grease on garage floor), painters (walls extremely bad) or plasterer (holes in walls).
- Items such as fridges, furniture or any items not listed in the inclusions will not be cleaned unless otherwise agreed upon by both parties in writing and for an additional fee.
- We will not clean inside cupboards, if items are not removed.
- We do not clean nor warrant all kitchen items that occupy cupboards and draws.
- We do not clean or warrant, 'nick knacks', picture frames, vases, lamps, clocks, fruit bowls, linen and any item that may be decorative.
As well as the Bond Cleaning Exclusions, other exclusions exist that we can't warrant under the Bond Back Guarantee at Exit Cleans.
- We will clean the outside windows where we can (excluding windows at heights or difficult access) however due to weather circumstances we cannot warrant them.
- We will clean outside glass where we can (excluding glass at heights or difficult access) however due to weather circumstances we cannot warrant this.
- Outside areas are areas that cannot be fully protected (closed off) from weather elements. Examples are balconies and patios, or any area that cannot be completely closed off such as an outside area of a house with only three walls. As per our inclusions we will clean any outside area as required however due to weather circumstances we cannot warrant these areas.
- We will not be responsible and do not warrant items post pest control that may require additional cleaning directly related to the Pest Control. Examples are dead insects or animals that have accumulated due to Pest control being applied to the property.
- We do not warrant any cleaning inside or outside of the garage.
- A completion event is an event that has happened after the bond clean and within the warranty period which may influence the Managing Agents release of the bond in which the bond cleaner is not responsible for. We will not be responsible nor guarantee cleanliness in such an event. To determine these events 'common sense shall prevail'. Examples of these events are;
- Buildup of dead insects that were alive during the clean and have since expired.
- A build up of surface dust that has settled after the clean.
- Dirt or grime near a window or door that has been left open.
- Insect/animal feaces.
- New residents have moved or moving in.
- Access to the property by a third-party contractor that has not been approved by us.
- We do not clean nor warrant all kitchen items that occupy cupboards and draws.
- We do not clean or warrant, 'nick knacks', picture frames, vases, lamps, clocks, fruit bowls, linen and any item that may be decorative.
We offer a 30% DISCOUNT on all services and include FREE oven cleaning and FREE spot cleaning of walls and blinds. Our bond or end of lease cleans start at $210 for a unfurnished studio and depends on the size of your property. We offer many extra services such as carpet cleaning and pest control. Please use our online quote form for a free instant quote with no obligation to proceed.
Please go to our booking form online and add your booking. You will be able to select all the services you require and receive a price BEFORE you commit to booking. We can price match as well so feel free to email us if you find a cheaper price elsewhere for the same or service.
It is recommended that you leave the cleaners in the property while they are doing their job. You are welcome to stay if you wish however the cleaners will be quicker and more efficient if they don't feel as if someone is watching them work. They will however give you a call half an hour before they are about to finish so that you can come and have a look once they are done with their job.
We do require basic necessities such as warm water and electricity to get the job done, but we can still do the work without any electricity, but that will cost additional charges to use our generators and we must know that generators will be required well before the day of the service.
ABSOLUTELY! We offer a service guarantee on all our bond cleans and our mission is to get your bond money back. If your agent is unsatisfied with any aspect of the job please email us the exit report within 72 hours and we will return free of charge within 48 hours to rectify.
Yes, leaving your property empty is the first thing to take care of when booking an end of lease clean. Please note that our bond return guarantee does not apply if the property is not empty. The only exception is for furnished properties.
Usually, we don't, but if you want, we can collect the keys from the property manager or your landlord and once we are finished we can return them as well so that you can have a calm and stress-free day. There is a small nominal fee for this.
We absolutely do, we can take care of all your cleaning needs. We provide spring cleaning, office cleaning, carpet cleaning, oven cleaning and general cleaning as well as pest control.
Our Services
We offer a complete range of cleaning solutions. Our service also offers:
We offer our customers:
Trained & Experienced Cleaners
Our cleaners are experts in cleaning all types of properties.
Insured and Screened
Our cleaners are fully insured and police verified.
Advanced Tools
Our cleaners are equipped with sophisticated supplies and machines that allow perfect cleaning of every house or building.
Flexible Booking
We offer a flexible and easy booking system.
We Offer Our Customers:
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Our cleaners are quick to respond and reach your property at the specified time without any delay.
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We offer a 72 hour guarantee we are so sure of our work.
Affordable Service
We offer a comprehensive quoting system so you know what your paying for.
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This (8-count) Matte Pink and Fog Blue Balloon Bouquet includes:
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Mark/Bob/Thomas from London
Basically, the claim is "Mark from Stone Church is also Bob and Thomas from London and I can't believe you guys can't figure this out. His accent was even obviously fake!"
Yes, the accent was horrible. Yes, it was probably Mark. So what do we do about that? We have NO caller ID. We can't prove that it's the same person. I can't know that he doesn't honestly believe what he's saying, even if he fakes an accent. I can't prove that ANYONE actually believes the shit they say on the phone.
But if the conversation is allowing us to make good points and the caller is cooperative, what reason do I have to ruin it by saying "I think you're a liar. I think you're that same 'Mark' guy..."? And what if I'm wrong?
It's simply a bad idea to go making accusations like that in the middle of the show, when I have no supporting evidence.
Curiously, people seem to hear "Mark's" voice everywhere. In addition to the three in the title there are one or two other callers who people feel are also the same guy. Sometimes I can hear the similarities, sometimes I can't.
Congratulations to those of you who can always hear it and always get it right (though I'm not sure how you know that you're right), but exactly what do you propose we do about it?
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I do, however, want to apologize for kicking people out of the chat room over this speculation during the show. It was kind of getting on my nerves, but I believe I was a little overzealous in this regard. This comes after some email discussion that I initiated with Matt and everyone else involved with the show.
I also deleted one comment about it on the blog on Monday. Memoryhero, I'm sorry to you as well.
I'm not totally convinced that it's Mark, but I'll keep an ear out as I host for the next two weeks.The problem is that God is real, but an evil bastard, and also lazy.
He only made 1 soul, and tortures it for eternity by making it live every life. Every person who was murdered and tortured, every girl that was raped and every rapist, every theist caller and every atheist host, same person.
The truth is, we are all Mark from stone church...AND THEN JON WAS A ZOMBIE!!!!Maybe Mark is Chris Langan, the 200 IQ Youtube genius deist to whom callers keep referring. He developed the CTMU proof of god; a proof so abstruse he cannot explain it. That would be a hoot.
On a related note, I have developed a remote IQ test, which analyzes critical thinking in posts and video explanations, as well as other criteria such as the maturing of reasoning ability over time.
While I won't provide the IQ's of specifics AE hosts, my testing suggests their IQ's range from 139 - 173.
Applying my test to Mark - the self-proclaimed Mark, not suspected Marks - I arrive at an IQ of 107. His reasoning ability seems to have improved over successive calls. Most of the christian callers that I have examined range from 74 - 108. Atheist callers easily exceed the 120 IQ, likely due to their enhanced reasoning abilities.
I wish Chris Langan would actually call in himself, so I could analyze his reasoning ability using my remote procedure. I'd be interested if he comes close to the AE hosts in pure intellect.- Anonymous8/17/2011 12:19 PM
Someone needs to tell Mark his omnipresent authority figure hates lies... If he's even a theist.
ReplyDelete I wouldn't worry about it. Even if it were proven that "Mark" has rung under a pseudonym a few times, I don't think there is anything worth doing.
But if find this whole things kinda funny really. "Mark" is becoming a bit of a phantasm, lurking on the end of a phone who could strike at ANY TIME (during the weekly hour you do the show). :P
Maybe some real Brits named Bob and Thomas should ring and pretend to be "Mark".I had a theist make a similar argument like what they got near the end of the show on the 14th. I think at first I was like them dumbfounded and had no idea what to say. They said since Christianity is the world's oldest religion then it must be true. My response after a quick Google search was well Hinduism is the world's oldest religion but just because something is old doesn't make it true. Their response was "why not it's logical like the kind of logic that you like so much". Theist can have a tendency to say things that are so bad that it is very difficult to come up with a proper response.
ReplyDelete"Do you have any particular solutions to offer as to how to accurately identify him, instead of just dropping anyone who sounds like him?"
A few ideas:
1) Start doing call backs for callers that are suspicious. Just ask for their number, and call them back. You'll know right away if they are who they say they are. Even if you just call them from someone's mobile and have them switch lines for a second.
2) If that can't be done. Start "inadvertently" mixing up the name and use prior names. See what the reaction is. Lying is difficult!
3) Obviously the easiest way would be to get caller ID, and reject anonymous calls.
Guessing maybe someone else has a better solution?I agree that as long as your conversations are thought provoking then you've won no matter what. But as with all poe callers, the conversation will never be as interesting as with those who genuinely believe what they say.
That's why people care enough to email you about it, because if the caller isn't taking this shit seriously, then the short time you have can be spent better on those who are.I love all of these suggestions...and, in case you missed it, that's THICK sarcasm.
I mentioned that we don't have Caller ID and people suggest we should get Caller ID. Why the fuck didn't I think of that? That's fucking GENIUS! I can't believe I've been doing a call-in show for 6 years, and actually explained to people that we don't have Caller ID and never once thought "Hey, why don't we get Caller ID?"
How could I have been so stupid?
The callback suggestion isn't realistic because:
1. it limits callers to only those people who are willing to give out their phone numbers
2. we can't make outgoing long-distance calls
3. it's just an annoyingly cumbersome way to try to do a call-in show
My favorite, though, is that I should just inadvertently start mixing up the names when talking to a caller that I'm suspicious about.
I LOVE that! It's brilliant! There's absolutely no risk that I'll look like an unprofessional buffoon who can't remember a caller's name for 30 seconds and there's no way that people might find that insulting or rude.
Oh!! (This is the beautiful part!) There are some people who think we've arranged this fake caller and there's absolutely no chance that calling him by another name might reinforce those suspicions or give YouTube idiots like Shock the opportunity to build more conspiracy theories.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the attempts to help...but they almost all read the exact same way: like people who know nothing about the actual show simply assuming that we're a bunch of idiots that don't know what we're doing.Matt has said it before, and has said it again here, as long as the call is progressing, who the he'll cares who it is and how much of the show it takes up.
In typing up a few transcripts of Mark of the Iron Chariots wiki, I have listened to quite a bit of Mark. I have to listen to the same section many times to make sure I get the wording just right, and on hearing Bob/Thomas etc I may even think, "holy shit, I think this is Mark" It doesn't mean it is though. I got bored with Mark, and never finished the conversations with the austin stone thread because all of a sudden he was too eager to please or something like that.
But honestly, if these sound a likes are covering new ground, or having conversations that are progressing, then who the hell cares who it is. There are a lot of people in the world, some may sound alike. Chill already."I mentioned that we don't have Caller ID and people suggest we should get Caller ID. Why the fuck didn't I think of that? That's fucking GENIUS! I can't believe I've been doing a call-in show for 6 years, and actually explained to people that we don't have Caller ID and never once thought "Hey, why don't we get Caller ID?"
I was joking.It's interesting, people throwing around this little name "oh, he's a poe, she's a poe..." when that very phrase comes from a social theory that irrational fundamentalism and parodies of it are indistinguishable. It's a social theory I for the most part hold to be true, and when someone suggests that we do our best to "reveal" the fakers...well, I just don't see why we should care. To dispel Irrational arguments from someone that does not believe them is still beneficial to all. Even if said argument is painfully easy to dispel under the weight of it's absurdities, it can still breed further discussion of interest to all (or protect someone that'll believe just about anything, and trust me, they DO exist).
What do I propose you do? I propose you do nothing about something with no effect on the free exchange of ideas within the show, matt.Glad I checked the blog first, just listened to the podcast, and was sure that the speech patterns of Thomas were very close to those of Mark (accent aside!) Was about to write an email to ask just this question, I'll spare your inbox the traffic!
I have to say, that after having Beth on last week and showing us all her first prank call, you really were setting yourself up to get a faker or two this week anyway. [Maybe Mark/Thomas was hoping to mary you? jk]
Great show, thanksI don't understand why the fuck people are so hung up on this Mark guy anyway. Last weekend's show was great, IMO--several callers who called in to disagree, and the conversation didn't degenerate into shouting and anyone being kicked off the line. IIRC one guy left in a huff, but I think he and every other caller would have to admit they got a fair chance to talk.
It's like calling this or that is obviously a POE...the whole point of Poe's Law being, you can't know that you've spotted a faker because there's always someone out there who's both equally dumb and sincere about it.
I mean, hell--go poke at this guy:
http://provingthebible.blogspot.com/yet, with all that said, you do realize that it feels kind of awkward for the audience to listen to a conversation where theres a much-higher-than-usual chance that the caller himself is just playing a game, right? i can understand how this topic must be going on everybodys nerves, but, well, the mere fact that so many people get so distracted by this is a clear sign that...that it is f*****g distracting ;-) of course you can say "then all these people just need to take a chill pill", sure.
but think of it another way - if you were asked: if you COULD tell that a caller is fake with sufficient certainty (and dont YOU ever bring up a 100% certainty type argument here please ;-), what would you do? judging from past shows, i think you would hang up on him right away for entering the conversation with a lie, no?
now regarding the phenomenon (is that how you say it in english?) that so many viewers always seem so certain about a caller being - for example - mark, i dont think this can be brushed off by simply saying people arent questioning their perception enough here. i think this has also a lot to do with acoustics. *of course* its harder to tell for the people in the studio, who hear the caller over a speaker system that needs to be setup with full duplex operation and "feedback-freeness" in mind...the usual viewer, on the other hand, listens to the broadcast mix which usually is pretty consistent, and over his own stereo which he knows inside out. so i think one could very well assume that in fact it IS easier to tell for the viewer than for the hosts. i just cant help it, many of the examples that have been discussed here lately, they really felt extremely obvious, to the point where the AE crew insisting that you cant know for sure seemed almost surreal, in a "ok then, how obvious would it have to get?" way.
am i going anywhere with this? i dont know. maybe i just want to say, dont dismiss the audience feedback 100% here, and ask yourself if you *really* dont care at all whether a caller is fake or not, or if you do care at least bit and shouldnt just "give up" and go along with it.
i.e. imagine in the next show theres another caller where you arent sure, but the chatroom yet again screams "mark! mark!!! its f****g mark again!!!"...would it really hurt to flat out confront the guy with a sentence like "i do have a feeling you have called several times before with different names, whats up with that anyway?" and see how "realistically" he reacts? youve done this before, and i dont think it ever hurt, on the contrary, sometimes that was all that was needed to show a person that they cant fool around at random with you and made them stop.
and i think many people would NOT miss mark at this point. the lame ass fake arguments where he seems to just go from one clichee to the next ("so where do you get your morals from?" yeah, right, you sound so convincingly concerned!) are really getting old, and at least for part of your audience, it does damage the show. just a tiny bit, sure, but still :)
sorry for the bitching ;-) naturally comes with a certain amount of fandom, i guess ;-)It's not a dismissal. Having more and more people explain real hard that it's annoying doesn't do anything to help. It's not like the hosts of the show need to be convinced to do something.
It's not a question of 100% certainty either. It's a question of consequences. They don't want to incorrectly hang up on legit theists.
So far, all we have is a guild of people who claim to be able to correctly identify him without any way of verifying. Even if they're 85% accurate in being able to identify Mark, it's not worth the 15% collateral damage, especially when the calls themselves can generate some good.If the purpose of the show is to not necessarily convince the caller of his/her faulty thinking but to provide a forum for theistic listeners to hear good arguments, then who cares if the callers are Poes? Even if it is "Mark" all the time, the theists don't know that- all they hear are excellent rebuttals by the staff.
But seriously,no callerID? I have had it for over 20years now, didn't know it was possible NOT to have it!!I'd kind of like to hear this Chris Langan cat get a proper take-down on the show sometime.
There's no argument to take down. It's just a load of bollocks, spiced with big words and a dash of deliberate obfuscation.
Further, none of the people who claim that it's a great argument seem capable of explaining what the argument actually is.
Until otherwise demonstrated, I'm of the opinion that Langan doesn't have an argument at all. If I'm wrong, then please describe, in your own words, what his argument is.Yeah, when I heard Bob (I haven't heard Thomas yet; was that from this week?), my first thought was, "MARK!!!" Glad it's not just me thinking that. I had considered emailing just to see if the hosts agreed, but decided against it because they should be addressing the arguments, not the person. (Unless they are Charlie bringing up the same gibberish time and time again.)
As for Chris Langan, I looked at his Wikipedia page. It smelled of rotten fish. Seems the guy had 15 minutes of fame 10 years ago and is now with DI, I recall (correct me if I'm wrong).Yes, "Thomas" from the latest episode of TAE was definitely "Mark" of Austin Stone fame; I picked up on this right away. Of course I can't claim that with 100% certainty but I have an excellent ear for voices, especially ones that I've heard more than once such as Mark's. "Thomas" is the only caller I've heard that made me perk up and think "Mark", and instantaneously at that.
Having lived in England for most of my adult life what I can say with almost 100% certainty is that his dialect is not from any region I'm familiar with. It's definitely not a London or cockney accent, nor is it the Southern UK, Cornish, Liverpool, Manchester, or any other region with distinct, regional accents. In my opinion, the accent was faked, and furthermore, that it was Mark (or someone impersonating Mark in a bad British accent which makes even less sense).
Does it matter? No, of course not. It doesn't matter because he's asking questions that any theist could ask and Matt is still giving the same relevant answers. It's educational either way so who cares? Personally I think Mark adds his own entertainment value to the show and isn't causing any harm. Whatever his intentions at least he's polite, doesn't interrupt, and at least provides interesting conversation.I found it funny how much of a big deal some people on here were making of it, especially after the "Bob" call. I now feel reasonably okay thinking they're the same guy, but no, it doesn't really make much of a difference. Just that we the audience have our suspicions raised regarding this particular guy (if it is the same guy). I don't think it's worthy of being complained about, but it was still worth putting out there, especially after the last call. All told, it was a damned good show, though I'm personally jonesing for a Tracy Harris show with good callers - it's been too long!
ReplyDelete"Does it matter? No, of course not."
Yes, it does matter. It hurts the show's credibility when some joker is allowed to call in with a different name and/or a "foreign" accent, and everyone can tell it's the same clown, trying to yank the host's chain by pretending he's someone different every time. "NO NO NO YOU'RE DONE" is the only proper way of dealing with this nuisance.Well, I was the one who got his blogpost deleted by Russell on this issue, and I just want to say how nice it is, and gracious, to get an apology. Thanks Russell! I want you to know that my concern about the caller's identity existed in the first place only because I, like many others I'm sure, simply don't want the hosts, whom we like and want good things for, to continue "playing the fool" for a waste of space like "Mark"...
Matt has now said that the identity of the caller may not matter so long as good rebuttals to bad arguments are the result, and of course, it is indubitably good that weak arguments are hamstrung on the air.
I think it is worth mentioning that it is a very unenviable position that you hosts find yourselves in on this issue and that I don't think you have it easy by any means. It is a real shame that you don't have the ability to identify the origin of the calls (didn't I hear once though that Mark's ip address had been localized to Canada? How did that come about?)
Still I think the show loses a bit of snap when, despite the contents of the arguments, you are convinced you're watching a puppet show from one of the sides...and when it happens repeatedly, it's easy to feel your genuine interest to keep watching flag. I think that is worth bearing in mind.
Perhaps cautiously confronting this guy on some subsequent call (when the suspicion seems high) is not such a poor move after all. I think it deserves some consideration, in a way of course that does not compromise your professionalism. Difficult but possible? You might not even need to press the issue much.
Something that no one else has mentioned is that whoever this person is: he is certainly running out of accents. He can't keep switching indefinitely. Attempts at non-native English speaking accents would probably fail hard enough as to alert everyone simultaneously...
Anyhow, simply acknowledging that SOMETHING is probably afoot was all I was hoping for, to recognize that likely someone is trying to play a game at what they think is your expense. You lot are too good a troupe for this kind of nonsense, and I simply don't like to watch those who take the time to spread the message of reason get duped by an ass while simultaneously vociferously denying that it is happening.
In that regard, just knowing that it is likely occurring may be enough for now. Whatever the case, I wish you all the best.One potential problem I see in allowing a known poe (ok, a suspected one) to keep calling the show is that it might raise accusations of dishonesty on the show's part, of building a straw man and attacking that.
I know that it might be technically very difficult, if not impossible, to filter his calls (especially if he calls from different phones every time), but that has never stopped the conspiracy theories.I do think that having poes on the show is a problem but I fail to see what anyone can do about it.
First, caller ID won't solve this, it's not like you can't fool those.
Second, considering that some people call in who are "in the closet" and are terrified if their family\bosses\whatever find out, it could be seriously counter productive.I see an interesting symetry here (hmm; spellcheck redline on symetry. I'm a very good speller & that seems correct to me. But hey, spellcheck even redlines "spellcheck", so go figure).
The names Mark, Thomas and Bob. Names previously attached to a canonical gospel, a non-canonical (I think) gospel and parody gospel (Church of Bob; think FSM by a good ole Southern boy.)
Though the gospels are named for the apostles, it's pretty widely accepted that they were written years later and someone (those blasted counselors at Nicea?) slapped fake labels on 'em. (Robert Price has written and said a lot about the Markian text, etc..)
And here we are discussing whether Mark, Thomas and Bob are fake labels.
Further note: Thomas was the one who (allegedly) said "show me the proof". Which we're all about, here and in general.
Side note: I nominate Thomas as the patron saint of atheists.I debated Mark/Bob/Thomas from London for years on Youtube. How do I know this? Well, I'm not 100% sure, but I am 90% sure because he said he would call the Atheist Experience show on a specific date.
When I watched the show Mark/Bob/Thomas called in and used all the same arguments he used on my Youtube channel. I recognized the same behavior from Mark/Bob/Thomas that he exhibited on my Youtube channel. He even commented on my channel under at least two different names.
I think he would rather remain anonymous, and quite frankly so would I. So I have to respect that. But I find it so funny listening to this guy that I debated on Youtube under several different names behaving the same way on the Atheist Experience show. On the Atheist Experience show I think it is a lot of fun watching him fall flat on his face and get called for being a "fake ass" caller on this Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GCwCuVcKec
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It is sufficient to simply wipe down the equipment with a soft cloth on a regular basis to remove any dust or grime that can stop the equipment working as well as it should. In some cases, an anti-dust product can be used to stop dirt sticking to the equipment, although you should check first with the manufacturer to see if your product is safe to use on the device.
Also, is strongly recommended you make sure that the track is lubricated well, and that the lift moves up and down the stairs efficiently and safely. Over time, lubrication can dry out, and this can cause the lift to become stiff and its movements not so smooth. Your West Virginia manufacturer will be able to recommend a safe product to use and advise you on how much to apply.
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Worried about the stair lift cost? You don't need to. We go to great lengths to make sure our customers have several financing options to choose from if they pay out of pocket.It is attached to the stairs and it uses a rail to move up and down. It was invented as early as the 1920's. A man named CC Crispen who was a Pennsylvania inventor, invented a thing which was almost like a stair lift. He named the model as Inclin-ator.
You can visit any shop or a website and quickly see the cost varies greatly. This is mostly reflected in the quality of the product being sold. A quick way to gauge that is to look at the standard warranty and see what's included. You will find that the average stair lift cost less than $2000 and some of the higher quality stair lift models cost as much as $15,000 in West Virginia.
The stair lift price will vary depending on what features you want. If you want one that is top-of-the-line, and a great model with lots of features, then you are obviously prepared to pay a good price for that.
If you have a straight staircase in your home then you won't need to worry much about the cost as those are by far the easiest to install. But if you need a curved stair lift then there is a steady increase in the cost depending on how many steps you have. Winding staircases require the most expensive stair lift.
Prevention is always better than cure. The hospital bills from a single fall down the steps will cost you more than what your stair lift cost would have been.
A stair lift will restore your Bruno peace of mind because you won't have to worry about the safety of the disabled person you love while he or she is going up and down stairs every day.
Other Home Stair Lift Considerations in 25611
In a seemingly endless sea of manufacturers and products in West Virginia, it can be a daunting process to sift through them all, hoping to find the stair lift that's right for you. However, with a few helpful hints and tips and some research, the process should become clearer and a product ideal for your needs will be found and your quality of life will be improved.
As this will be a vitally important tool used to maintain independence, it is important to give full consideration to finding the perfect fit. Below is a list of considerations to help you find the one for you. Please note however, that this list is not exhaustive and each individual will have their own specific needs.
Types of Stairway Lifts
What type of stairway lifts is this for in Bruno?- Usually manufacturers will separate their products into straight stairlifts and curved stair lifts. Obviously, which one you will be opting for will depend on your staircase. Bear in mind, that due to the added complexities of the curved construction, the price will inevitably be higher.
Weight or size requirements in West Virginia- The industry standard maximum weight tends to be 19 Stone (120 Kg). Exceeding maximum loads is not recommended and can risk damage to equipment and more importantly, jeopardize the safety of the individual using the product. If you require something with a higher maximum load than this, then it is important to say so when speaking to the sales agent. Likewise when considering a larger or higher seat requirement.
What type of seat would be best suited?- Stairway lifts come in many different varieties in order to offer products that meet all conceivable needs. For example, if you have knee or hip problems and find bending a problem, a perch seat may be better suited to your needs. You could also consider if having a swivel seat would be beneficial. This type of seat will rotate on its axis to help with an easy and safe mount/dismount after traversing the staircase.
Power supplies- Most manufacturers now use a 12V DC battery operated stair lift which charges from the 240V mains supply when at rest. The major benefit of using a battery operated stair lift is during a power cut. Because the battery supply is independent of the mains supply, the stairlift will continue to operate and will not leave its passenger dangerously stranded midway up the staircase.
Proximity Sensors- This is often an optional extra and if selected, acts as an extra safety feature. If there are any obstructions to the stair lift during operation, such as children's toys or a sleeping cat, then a default action will occur such as an audible alarm or coming to a halt (model dependent).
Of course there are many more options available than discussed here. It is important to keep researching and produce a list of requirements which can then be provided to a sales agent in order to find the product which is best suits your needs.
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Wiring Holes: 3
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- Image shown is of the actual tree you will receive unless stated otherwise in the actual product's description
- The height given is from the base of the pot to the top of the tree.
- The tree received may be slightly different from the picture. Whilst we try to keep the photos of our trees as up to date as possible, these are live plants and, as such, will continue to grow and change slightly in between the times we take the photos.
- Some of our Bonsai pots are bought in bulk and unfortunately it's impossible to photograph each single item so the photograph used is taken from one random item of each collection we sell. In 99% of cases this means that any differences won't even be noticeable, however, if you have seen a particular image of a pot that has a certain streak of paint in a certain place, bear in mind that the pot you receive may not be 100% identical to this.


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Beautiful bench. Can also be used as a vanity or piano chair. Stunning details.
Dimension: 44"W x 27.5"H x 20.5"D. Floor to seat 18"
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Just contact me within: 3 days of delivery
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Because of the nature of these items, unless they arrive damaged or defective, I can't accept returns for:
Custom orders require 30% deposit. Client can mail me their fabric or I can find it for you. Custom orders take 7-10 days once I have the fabric in-hand.
Fabric is expected to be somewhat dirty. Please remember my pieces have been hand picked from France and Italy. They come in vessels which takes 4-6 weeks to arrive but before they depart, I move them to Netherlands. So with that said, the pieces are handled with care but sometimes you'll need to clean them with soap and water if velvet or with a wet cloth if leather.
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Yes. We have a third party that changes frame colors for example from gold leaf to black or from silver to blue. They charge about $250-$500 per chair and $500-$1,000 for a sofa.
Yes. From time to time, we bring floor mirrors and chandelier and everything in between (benches, coffee tables, side tables, bed frames, vanity tables, commodes).