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SULLIVAN: It was funny because the AP story recounted it as me wearing a splashy Hawaiian shirt. It was a black Hawaiian shirt with some gray markings, which is about the most sedate Hawaiian shirt you can find in Hawaii.
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SIMON: Mayor Sullivan says he was glad his Hawaiian family had the chance to see him sworn in, but he'll also take the oath of office again when he returns home to Anchorage, where it's in the 60s today - not quite Hawaiian shirt weather.
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Tuesday, August 18, 2009
Roasted Red Pepper and Sun-Dried Tomato Spread
From the kitchen of One Perfect Bite... Prepare yourselves. Memories of gnarled and ancient trees whose boughs are bent with gold and hillsides flaming in the glow of a setting Tuscan sun are about to be unleashed. Some call it a spread or dip. Others call it a sauce. Whatever you call it, this dish is so good that it's hard to grasp it can be made from a handful of ingredients in so little time. Strange, maybe, but undeniably true. Well-drained, oil-packed sun-dried tomatoes and roasted red peppers are thrown into a blender and spun to a puree that is thinned with a bit of olive oil and flavored with garlic and pepper flakes. That's it. It's served with flatbread or with pasta. Si mangia bene. Here's the recipe.
Roasted Red Pepper and Sun-Dried Tomato Spread...from the kitchen of One Perfect Bite
1 cup well-drained, coarsely chopped, roasted red bell peppers from a jar
3 tablespoons olive oil
1 large clove garlic, minced
1/2 teaspoon dried basil
1/4 to 1/2 teaspoons red pepper flakes
1 cup well-drained sun-dried tomatoes packed in olive oil and herbs
1) Combine peppers,oliveoil,garlic, basil,red pepper flakes and tomatoes in the jar of a blender or food processor. Pulse or process until desired consistency is reached.
2) Transfer to a serving bowl and serve with flatbread or toss with hot pasta. Yield: 6 to 8 servings.
34 comments :
- Unknown said...
Hi Mary,
Oh ma gawd that sounds good! I just love anything with sun dried tomato as a main ingredient.
Thank you for your visit. Hope your weekend was magical and the upcoming week holds wondrous surprises.
Cheers! =D
~Kitty - August 18, 2009 at 12:04 AM
- Lyndas recipe box said...
Why did I read this before going to bed? Now I will be thinking of this wonderful spread...I'll have to make it soon, Mary, as it looks so good!
- August 18, 2009 at 12:23 AM
- Mary | Deep South Dish said...
Sounds wonderful!
- August 18, 2009 at 1:18 AM
I knew coming to your site I would find something delicious!I think im in pure bliss,sun dried tomato spread?thats amazing I can't wait to try it.
- August 18, 2009 at 1:20 AM
- Heather S-G said...
mmmmmm...that color! Sounds amazing...especially w/ your description :D
- August 18, 2009 at 6:28 AM
- Deb in Hawaii said...
Gorgeous color--it looks delicious!
- August 18, 2009 at 6:32 AM
- Martha said...
It's a good spread, dip -- we like it with veggies as well. Your picture makes me want to take a big scoop!
- August 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM
- Jersey Girl Cooks said...
Mmmmmnnn. I would love this on pasta.
- August 18, 2009 at 7:49 AM
- Hootin Anni said...
Thing is, Mary, this time, in your first descriptive words you made me feel like I was in the countryside of beautiful Italy!! Let's go!!! We can dine in an quaint ol' Tuscan outdoor cafe and watch the world go by as we snack on the Tomato Spread and sip on their wine.
Yessiree, I'm there. - August 18, 2009 at 8:50 AM
- Joy Tilton said...
Oh my, this sounds sooo good! Love anything with sundried tomato or roasted red pepper. Can't wait to try this one. I have a whole file of Mary's Perfect Bites!
- August 18, 2009 at 9:05 AM
- Shellbelle said...
This looks delicious and very seldom are my cupboards without these ingredients. I think this would be delicious spread on a panini befre pressing. Mmmm……yummy!
- August 18, 2009 at 9:31 AM
- Cathy said...
This is my favorite type of recipe, easy to prepare and packed with flavor. Yikes, I've got to make the time to roast peppers for the freezer. The market is full of them right now.
- August 18, 2009 at 10:01 AM
- Allie said...
Looks wonderful and so simple to toss together! Can't wait to try it!
- August 18, 2009 at 10:13 AM
I can't wait to make that Roasted Red Pepper and Sun-Dried Tomato spread! Thanks for stopping by my blog, I've just signed up to follow yours... it's right up my ally!!
Hope you're having a good week! - August 18, 2009 at 10:19 AM
- La Bella Cooks said...
This sounds delicious!
- August 18, 2009 at 11:50 AM
- Gaby said...
omg I love Roasted Red Peppers!!!! This spread sounds fab - I want to use it for my panini's!!!
- August 18, 2009 at 12:12 PM
- Pam said...
I call it delicous! Love the flavors you used Mary.
- August 18, 2009 at 12:25 PM
- Lori E said...
I am making stuffed potatoes for this weekends barbecue. Mmm good.
That dip looks so rich and full of flavor. - August 18, 2009 at 1:09 PM
- The Blonde Duck said...
How about serving it with bread and pasta! :)
- August 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM
- Debbie said...
This is perfect with some flatbread...oh so good!
- August 18, 2009 at 2:09 PM
- Kristin said...
How simple& delicious! I'm going to bookmark this one too! Thank you for being so sweet, I just love all your comments. You really make my day.
- August 18, 2009 at 5:01 PM
- Katy ~ said...
I'm a fool for sun dried tomatoes, grins. Adding this to my must-do stash!
- August 18, 2009 at 5:09 PM
- xinex said...
Hi Mary! Where did you learn how to cook? You are just so good and you know how to prepare so many delicious dishes!....Christine
- August 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM
- Mary Bergfeld said...
xinex, I've been cooking since I was 6 years old. I had a unique and wonderful childhood and was surrounded by great cooks from around the world. I've never lost my passion to cook and view each new day as an opportunity to try something new or lovingly reconstruct something old.
- August 18, 2009 at 11:26 PM
- Drawn to The Sea said...
Ah... now I know the secret for a favorite restaurant's dressing... this HAS to be exactly what they put on their Mediterranean salad.
Yay! - August 20, 2009 at 11:18 AM
- Melissa and Zack said...
this would make a nice sauce for pasta - Josh would love it! looks yum yum good
- August 20, 2009 at 3:33 PM
- test it comm said...
That would be one tasty spread!
- August 22, 2009 at 7:31 AM
- SnoWhite said...
Yum - this sounds delicious. I'm always looking for alternatives to hummus because I'm allergic to sesame! Thanks :)
- August 22, 2009 at 9:13 AM
- Mermaids of the Lake said...
Oh, my goodness... my mouth is watering! This sounds delcious.
Mermaid Debbie - August 23, 2009 at 1:36 PM
- Patricia @ ButterYum said...
Oh my... be still my heart! What a delicious sounding spread!!! Will definitely be giving this one a try. Thanks so much1
- August 25, 2009 at 8:29 AM
- Alecia said...
Just printed this recipe to put in my file- love that is not loaded with calories- but with FLAVOR!!
- April 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM
Gorgeous color! Just wondering: how far in advance do you think I could make this dip? I would be servings it with pita chips most likely.
- June 27, 2010 at 10:02 PM
Gorgeous color! Just wondering: how far in advance do you think I could make this dip? I would be servings it with pita chips most likely.
- June 27, 2010 at 10:02 PM
- Mary Bergfeld said...
Sarah, I've made it two days before serving and kept it for another three if there are leftovers. I hope you are having a great day. Blessings...Mary
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So I took my bike to work today. I didn't mean to. I didn't want to. I already knew the roads were covered in 11 inches of slop and the bike paths weren't plowed, because I had already gone for a 25-mile snow ride earlier in the day. During that ride, I took to the beach when the roads became too slippery and sloppy to navigate. The smooth sand felt nice but the streets were covered in goo, and to top it all off, the falling snow had switched over to hard, cold rain. I certainly didn't want to go back out in the gunk. But when I couldn't coax my car out of the slop-coated parking lot, I didn't have a choice. I rushed around to gear up yet again and commence the ride/push to the office.
I had to jog with my bike through deep snow the last half mile on the bike path. I finally arrived at work late, soaked and coated in grit, sans any kind of brown-bag dinner (It was going to have to be old Power Bars again.) I thought I was having a bad day. Realtive to others, I really wasn't.
I was fresh from the restroom, still holding a wad of dripping clothing in my outstretched arms, when the message reached me. Mandatory meeting. Those two words, when said together, set heavy in the throat and only sink deeper, becoming thicker and more nauseating as the syllables resonate. A "mandatory" meeting is anything but. These days, in these times, everyone knows what gets said at mandatory meetings, and no one wants to hear it. I pulled my wet hair back into a ponytail and shuffled into the conference room.
In mandatory meetings, the hardest words are always blurted out first, followed by an eternity of condescending rationalizations. I often wonder why anyone bothers with the rationalizations. Nobody's listening. Nobody. The hard words are out there. The white lights of shock have streaked through and blinded everybody with private, searing thoughts. As the rationalizations droned on, I fought the urge to get up and walk out of the room in anger, or solidarity, or frustration. I scanned the faces of my co-workers in a plea for levity. But there was no out-of-place humor in their expressions; only guilty relief. Some among the group had not been invited to the mandatory meeting. Those of us who had were grateful.
"This is reality," I kept telling myself. "This is the real world." I continued to grope for levity. It's one thing to laugh at "Office Space" and "The Bobs" and corporate downsizing in your favorite movie from the late '90s. It's quite another to watch your coworkers, people you know and like and respect, stiffly carrying armfuls of their personal belongings to the door.
"It should have been me," I kept thinking. "Why not me?"
The hits keep coming and they're not going to stop. I'm beginning to think it's no longer a question of how long I'm going to try to hold on to the dream career I've wanted since I was a little girl — the life of a newspaperwoman. It's becoming a question of how far into the North Pacific I want to ride the Titanic.
The air was steeped in silence when I left work, well after 11 p.m. Dim moonlight flickered through mottled breaks in the clouds, and the night looked bright, almost like dawn, as the light reflected off a blanket of new snow. Soft rain fell as I unlocked my bike and I breathed deeply, grateful for the solitude. I didn't want to ride to work, but when the day was done, I couldn't think of anything I wanted more than to ride home. The quiet allowed for meditation, the winter twilight for clarity. My legs felt warm and close, but my thoughts were muffled, as though they were coming to me from a unknown distance. I focused but couldn't hear them. The whir of studded tires and the splash of snow-dammed puddles were lost to an all-encompassing silence. I focused harder. I whispered rationalizations. Still I heard nothing. There was nothing to hear. Even when you have already given serious consideration to changing your life, the approach of the tipping point is deafening.
"This is reality," I kept telling myself. "This is the real world." The miles passed, and the snow just kept melting, and melting.
27 comments:
- AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 4:29 AM
Jill, it is shocking the way people are treated when companies decide they would prefer to improve their profits than to behave well toward their staff. Watching round after round of redundancy does wear you down.
Right now I'm halfway through your book and enjoying it tremendously. Thankyou for writing it and sharing your life. In the book I've been struck by your determination to find your own path, to be your own person. I think looking to those might provide the key for you in dealing with the dehumanising that surrounds your at work. Good luck.
And it was great to see your magnanimous opening today; thanks for your wholehearted support for fatty and susan.
..macca That is the sad realization in today's economic world. Unfortunately it will only get worse before it gets better. Be glad it was not you and always have plan B in your back pocket because you never know when it might be you.
Our neighbor is layed off one day a week for a while and I asked his wife if he was looking for something new. Her reply is no we will wait this out. Better to be prepared with some options!
Glad I read your blog because it reminds me to be grateful for what I do have and to not be so needy!- AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 5:28 AM
In the course of my career, I've been on both sides of the table. When you are the one in a small company that is forced to give that speech, or in my case make the decision to cut, it is absolutely agonizing. Even when the owner and myself have forgone compensation to keep people employed. It is unfortunately the cold hard reality of life. But it is also just a job and I know my job doesn't make me who I am.
ReplyDelete - AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 7:50 AM
Jill, you are a talented writer and even if it was you, I have no doubt that you would not have a problem getting another job. However, knowing that doesn't soften the blow of seeing friends/co-workers lose their job. A nice long bike ride does sound good right about now!
ReplyDelete - AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 7:52 AM
Downer for sure...I'm going for a ride now.
Ken/Akron - AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 10:56 AM
How about a heaping plateful of steaming guilt:
I've been the person in that room trying to figure out how to say what has to be said without blurting. Those penetrating stares and furtive looks are the hardest thing to confront.
The face to face behind the closed door with the innocent victims is actually easier (for me). It is particlarly challenging when you have been promoted from the ranks.
Guilty for not being among the fired, and guilty all the more for not having bargained hard enough to keep my whole crew in the boat. And then too, guilty for being the lacky charged with the task of pulling the rope on the guillotine.
No one wins in the race to the bottom.
Yr Pal, Dr C - AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 11:04 AM
Glad you were made it through! It wasn't just luck. It's still tough even when you still have a job.
I've been through at least 7 layoffs in the past 13 years. I was always left. Most of them were done as well as corporate America does layoffs. The one in July wasn't though. Then I also was left with the question, "Why not me?"
The local office was closed and a few of us were left working from home. A couple weeks ago, I got an email from my boss saying he needed me on a conference call in 45 minutes. Somehow I knew what it was for. When I joined the conference and the HR manager's name popped up it was confirmed.
The newspaper industry is being hit hard but so is pretty much everything else. I'm a software developer and things are tight too. On the positive side, I have more time to ride although job searching takes a lot of time. - AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 12:14 PM
Beautifully written post.
I am also feeling the weight of the world at my workplace. But stepping out one dark night, gazing up at a galaxy full of stars, EVERYTHING became clear.
I look forward to the icicles growing on my beard on my bike commute home! - AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 3:59 PM
Jill, don't carry the burden of others. You cannot allow yourself to stress over others' losses. Be there for them, if they so choose, but do not carry that burden.
My advice is to be grateful for what you have, TODAY. I've been in many interesting situations, and I can tell you from experience that stepping back and assessing the CURRENT situation will allow you to make appropriate decisions.
Life goes on, and so will you.
Now, as a cyclist, I have this gem to offer you: you own a Pugsley (I am jealous). As long as you can afford bike parts and repairs, as needed, life is good. It's about the bike. ;-) - AnonymousDecember 10, 2008 at 6:05 PM
I just found your blog, you are an awesome photographer!
ReplyDelete Unemployment is sad, scary, and happening all around us. I feel sad for your co-workers. I think you are a wonderful compassionate person for feeling sad and worried about them. Life is hard right now. The economy is effecting everyone in some way.
I am glad you got to ride home and ponder your thoughts, even though that wasn't a part of your plan.I found your comments on not voting to be odd coming from someone in the newspaper business. I find it even odder you haven't noticed the reality of the profoundly bad news that is all around and getting much worse. Multipily this year's layoffs by four and think of how much guilt 2009 has in store. I work for the police and I don't worry so much about being laid off, I worry more about becoming the 21st century equivalent of a Pinkerton agent in a world of poverty and despair. That will be a guilt trip.
I don't really share your views. I do believe the newspaper industry is dying, and there is little I or really anyone can do to save it. I also believe the economy is in rough shape. But I have lived on very little (by choice) at times in my life - traveled around on a $300 bicycle, slept in ditches, ate beans - but I've never been impoverished. I believe poverty and despair are a choice, because poverty and despair are a state of mind. I know I'm going to be OK. Whatever happens, I'll be OK. I just hope I can help the people I know and love.- AnonymousDecember 11, 2008 at 6:20 AM
Hi Jill, your a stong woman, you'll go your way!
good luck - AnonymousDecember 11, 2008 at 5:35 PM
It's hard to be one of the ones left on the life raft. You can't help wondering if it might sink, too. I agree that having Plan B always is helpful. And I would add that you have an awesome future in publishing, with the following that you have on your blog, the fundraising support you have garnered and probably your growing book sales. There is a way through all this.
ReplyDelete The company I work for also recently had cut backs, it's tough on all sides. What I love about your blog is that you write about the good and the bad. It's real.
I sometimes have busy weeks or months and don't get a chance to read your blog. Then one day I sit back, scroll down, and catch up on everything missed. Then I get the motivation I need to continue my goals as well. Thank You!No time to read all the comments though I wish I did. All I can say is damn you're a good writer. I wish I could write that good.
I've never sat in a mandatory meeting about downsizing... though sad it was a tremendously interesting insight. I'm glad I've been spared... albiet who's come home from out of town on a sunday night just to find registered mail??? I have. It was nothing personal, nothing to do with my teams largely successful run, just problems in upper managament and elsewhere. I always used to say, "that's what happens when you're the monkey's tail." but I'm not sure which is worse... board rooms or registered mail... not seeing it coming... or the immenent doom of a slowly sinking ship. I just realized I never really got to say good bye.
As for spliting from work for a ride... I very much agree. It creates a space between work and home, which is really good after a bad day... or a good day. It's enevitable that you will leave all your problems at work. Especially in foul, cold, gritty weather.
Perhaps this is why i love foul weather riding so much. It's simplicity and purity. There's not room for anything else. It's just you and mother nature. On good days your mind can wander... but in foul weather all you can do is take it in... and no matter what the conditions I just sort of enjoy that solitude.
p.s. though a different thing you should try a motorcycle in the summer. Same sort of disconnect... only quicker. There's nothing quite like working late nowing when you're done you're out of there like a bullet... just done... not to the train... not for an hours drive in a car... but just pure immediate release.


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Long days, strawberry shortcake nights
During the strawberry's brief yet vibrant season, I try to eat them every day. I eat them with balsamic vinegar. I eat them in pies. I eat them in salads. I eat them with granola. I eat them with yogurt. I eat them with cream. And, of course, I eat them by themselves. But my favorite way to eat strawberries is in that classic concoction: strawberry shortcake.
Strawberry shortcake is a simple dish—a sliced biscuit, lightly sweetened strawberries and fluffy, whipped cream are its only requirements. I grew up eating this as my mom loves to make strawberry shortcake and hers is the best. And I'm not alone in my opinion, as I've seen others sigh when their shortcake bowls have been spooned clean.
The sad thing, however, is that when I was a kid I didn't realize I was eating proper strawberry shortcake. Randall's Supermarket sold round yellow sponge-cake cups and called them shortcakes. (They were only a about an inch high, so they were, indeed, short). And because I was gullible, I was mislead into believing that they were the real deal and what my mom was serving me was incorrect. Not that it mattered, because I still preferred her shortcake. The packaged sponge-cake kind never satisfied as the juice and cream turned the cakes into a soggy mush; you need the heft of a biscuit to carry the weight.
As longtime readers are well aware, I love to make biscuits. But my mom has always been more of a scone maker than a biscuit maker and so I was curious what recipe she used for her shortcakes. She surprised me when she said that it had probably come from The Complete American-Jewish Cookbook by Anne London and Bertha Kahn Bishov. It turns out that this is one of her most cherished cookbooks, the source of many of her favorite recipes. Who knew that an Episcopal priest could be such a fan of kosher cooking?
Now if you're an avid plant person like myself (my thumb's not completely green yet, but I keep trying!), you probably have mint and basil overtaking your windowsills, fire escapes or gardens. Fortunately, they both complement the sweetness of the berries, so I've enjoyed adding them to my whipped cream; ginger also gives a spicy kick. I've also been known to use sweetened Greek-style yogurt instead of whipped cream with my shortcake. Its thick texture and tart flavor make it a terrific vehicle for the berries' juice.
So yes, this is a simple recipe and a simple dish without much of a story. But it never fails to please me and since it's my birthday, I thought I'd share some of it with you.
How do you like to eat your strawberries?
Strawberry shortcake
- 2 pints strawberries, rinsed, hulled, and quartered
- 1/4 cup sugar
- 1 cup heavy whipping cream
- 1 teaspoon vanilla extract
- 2 tablespoons honey
- 8 biscuits
- Toss the strawberries with the sugar in a bowl, and leave out at room temperature for a couple of hours, stirring occasionally.
- Pour the cream into a chilled bowl, and whip with either a whisk, eggbeater or mixer until thickened (be careful to not whip it too much or you'll turn it into butter!). Gently stir in the honey and vanilla. Cover and chill until ready to use (though if it sits too long it will revert back to its liquid state and will need to be whipped again).
- Cut each biscuit in half, and on the bottom half place some strawberries and whipped cream. Put the top half on and add some more berries and cream.


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Behold your God |
Friday, April 22, 2011
For three days, God was a dead body and a corpse was God
28 comments:
I disagree on a couple of points. I wonder if Thomas was ever wrong? I think he was wrong here. I think the body of Christ experienced real death ( the human soul of Christ left the body and because of the hypostatic union, the Second Person of the Trinity, still united to Christ's human soul, left the body also. But God did not die in the sense that Christ's human nature and Divine nature still existed and were still united, though separated from the dead body. God dies only in the sense that Christ's body died. God still lived, the Second Person of the Trinity still lived, the hypostatic union of Christ's human nature and his Divine nature still lived (".. he decended into hell..."). I never thought about all this before and I don't remember any specific Church teaching on these points.
- April 22, 2011 at 6:03 PM
We are dealing here with theological speculation and I don't think this is the proper venue for this discussion. Personally, I disagree with most of it. Christ experienced the death of his body but Christ in the hypostatic union of his human and divine nature continued to live ( " ...he decended into hell...").
- April 22, 2011 at 6:57 PM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
You said, "I don't remember any specific Church teaching on these points."
The Creed: "I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. [...] He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, DIED, and was buried. He descended to the dead."
We must affirm that Christ died. And, if we can say that, in Christ's conception, God became man; and that, because Mary is the Mother of Jesus, she is also the Mother of God; then we must also affirm that, if Christ died, God died.
Nearly everything you say is in agreement with the Church's teaching -- certainly, as God, Christ lived; but, as man, he was dead (for his soul and body were separated). Therefore, we must affirm that, in Christ, through his humanity, God died -- just as God became man in Christ through his humanity.
As God, Christ continued to live (in his divinity). As man, Christ was dead (in his humanity).
This is really not a matter of great theological speculation. The person Jesus (who is the Word of God, and God himself) "DIED, and was buried."
I don't see how any Catholic can doubt this point...
What you have said is also mostly true -- you emphasize that Christ did not die in his divinity, and in this you are correct. I have only stated that Christ died in his humanity.
We need not be opposed.
I hope this helps! + - April 22, 2011 at 7:16 PM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
Consider the words of St. Peter speaking to the Jews: "But the author of life you killed." (Acts 3:15)
Who else is the "author of life" but God? And if they "killed" God, does it not follow necessarily that God died in Christ through his humanity?
The Catechism speaks very clearly on these same points in paragraphs 624-630, "During Christ's period in the tomb, his divine person continued to assume both his soul and his body." (CCC 630)
The Catechism cites St. Thomas' Summa (ST III, q.51, a,3) ... on the state of the body in the tomb.
I would say that the Angelic Doctors is a trustworthy guide in this matter...
Peace! + - April 22, 2011 at 7:32 PM
Both of those comments were mine. I stand corrected. It was something the old Baltimore catechism didn't cover and I hadn't read those references in the CCC. Apparantly the point about the hypostatic union requiring a continued, essential union with Christ's dead body and his separated human soul is dogma though I can't follow the reasoning. I will just accept it and think over your references.
- April 22, 2011 at 9:04 PM
- Anthony N. Emmel said...
There is also the idea that one of Mary's titles is "Mater Dei." She is the Mother of God, not only the Mother of Jesus. so, by analogy, if Jesus dies than God also died.
- April 22, 2011 at 10:20 PM
Awesome Post,
This is a little known theological point that is a beautiful part of the Faith. It has very important ramifications too for our salvation. If God ceased to be united to His body, then He did not destroy death. But, because the Life-Giving, Life-Creating Divinity of Christ remained united with His Human Body, He destroyed the power of death for all humanity. We no longer need fear the grave for God Himself has been there and has conquered it! Praise God! - April 23, 2011 at 6:07 AM
Interesting speculation. I would venture to say that, just as God is in sheol as a human soul, so God is in the tomb as a human corpse. Or in other words: Jesus is in sheol and in the tomb. Where is thy sting, O death?
On one hand it is shocking that God should be a corpse, even united to a corpse, yet, on the other hand, it is relieving that God should witness (so to speak) to the respect owed to the dead. But that's just my speculations. - April 23, 2011 at 6:29 AM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
John H,
Thanks for the great reflection! I especially liked how clearly you put this one point: "If God ceased to be united to His body, then He did not destroy dead."
Nice connection with the respect owed to the dead! Peace. + - April 23, 2011 at 8:31 AM
- Alfred said...
To say God died is heresy. Study carefully the teaching of the Council of Chalcedon and the
Communication of Idioms!
Flamen - April 23, 2011 at 10:20 AM
To say God died is heresy. Study carefully the teaching of the Council of Chalcedon and the Communication of Idioms.
- April 23, 2011 at 10:22 AM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
Thank you for that well reasoned and intelligent comment!
The Church, on the other hand, would disagree with you....
Jesus died, and is God; therefore, one must admit that, according to the communication of idioms, we must affirm that God (the Son) died in his human nature.
If we can say that Mary is the Mother of God, by virtue of her being the Mother of Jesus; then we can also say that Caiaphas and the other Jewish leaders killed God, by virtue of killing Jesus [cf. Acts 3:15].
But, if they killed God, then God was killed. And, if God was killed, then God died. He did not die in his divinity, but in the humanity of the Son.
Maybe you need to review Chalcedon... - April 23, 2011 at 10:46 AM
@ Anonymous & Alfred,
CCC 626 also gives a great testimony to this truth where it says:
"Since the "Author of life" who was killed (Acts 3:15) is the same "living one [who has] risen", (Lk 24:5-6) The divine person of the Son of God necessarily continued to possess his human soul and body, separated from each other by death:
By the fact that at Christ's death his soul was separated from his flesh, his one person is not itself divided into two persons; for the human body and soul of Christ have existed in the same way from the beginning of his earthly existence, in the divine person of the Word; and in death, although separated from each other, both remained with one and the same person of the Word (St. John Damascene, De Fide Orth. 3, 27: PG 94, 1097)." - April 23, 2011 at 11:57 AM
- Alfred said...
I repeat to say that God who is eternal has died and is dead is a heresy. Such statements at the least are misleading like the old Death of God nonsense in the sixties. You can attribute characteristics of the divinity to the one person Jesus and characteristics of humanity to the one person Jesus. You cannot attribute human characteristics to the divine nature God or divine characteristics to the human nature. To be accurate you can say that Jesus, who is God, died in his human nature.
- April 23, 2011 at 12:42 PM
- Brant Pitre said...
Thanks for this excellent post!
I was delighted to see you take up St. Thomas' treatment of the mystery of the dead body of Christ in the tomb, as the object of my meditation this morning was Thomas' articles on Christ's death and burial!
As some of the comments make clear, this is also an oft-neglected subject in modern Catholic thought. The mystery of Holy Saturday, which is part of the paschal mystery, tends to be neglected, and we are often fuzzy on the dogmatic elements. Excellent references also to the CCC, whose section on the Descent into Hell is to my mind very clear and well done.
Keep up the good work. - April 23, 2011 at 2:05 PM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
One of the great advantages of St. Thomas Aquinas is that he was writing before the Modern Age -- and thus is not infected by many of the modern heresies.
Unfortunately, many people (and I would include you in this) have reacted so strongly against certain modern heresies that they have ended up going to the opposite extreme.
Your problem is really not with St. Thomas or with me, it is with Nietzsche ...
Don't allow some post-modern philosopher cause you to abandon the Catholic Tradition.
[if we can say that Mary is Mother of God, then we can say that the Crucifixion is Deicide (the killing of God) ... which means that God did indeed die, insofar as Christ died in his humanity ... I made this abundantly clear in my article; any honest reader would have recognized this] - April 23, 2011 at 2:53 PM
- Acolyte4236 said...
Unfortunately, you are interpreting Chalcedon in a Nestorian (and Calvinist) way, where Christ is an abstract product of the union and the communication idiomatum is a mere exchange of titles as Diodore of Tarsus, Theodore of Mopsuestia, Theodoret of Cyrrus and Nestorius thought.. This is not how John of Damascus, Maximus the Confessor or any of the other major post-Chalcedonian theologians understood the matter. It was rather a transfer of properties or energies. This is in part what made Christ's live and death unique. He experienced a truly human death but in a divine manner, just as he willed with a human power of willing as a divine person.
If we do not say that God died, that the Logos died on the Cross, then a man died for your salvation and you are a man worshipper. The only way out from there will be to say that the value and efficacy of the atonement is not due to the person who suffers and dies, but due to the divine will. If that is so, then we do not need the Messiah to be anything more than Adam since God could have just as easily willed Adam die for our salvation and his death to have universal efficacy. Consequently there is a reason why Unitarianism came after Calvinism. - April 23, 2011 at 5:52 PM
- Alfred said...
The use of the communication of idioms must be used carefully so that misunderstanding does not occur. To say God is dead or that God died can be misunderstood to mean that the Trinity died or that the Father died or that the Holy Spirit died or that divinity died -that would be heretical. Jesus (who is God) died in his humanity.
- April 23, 2011 at 8:26 PM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
In the opening lines of the post I said. "Christ had truly died and, for those days while his body lay in the tomb, God was dead. Not, of course, that God was dead in his divinity – just as Christ did not suffer in his divinity, but only in his humanity, likewise he died only in his humanity – but it is true that a divine person died. God was dead in the person of the Son; the Father, however, did not die (just as the Father did not suffer)."
Why are you wasting my time, and that of all the readers? You have made your point (in a much less convincing way than I have) ... what more have you to say? - April 23, 2011 at 11:33 PM
The Catechism of the Catholic Church addresses this topic directly: CCC 627. It fully supports Fr. Reginald's points.
- April 24, 2011 at 4:54 AM
- R. de la Rosa said...
I agree with all that you have said except for some phrases that you formulated, like "God was a dead body" and "a corpse was God".
It is true that the Godhead or divinity did not separate from the dead body of Christ, but to say that "God was a dead body" is already misleading and connotes something different. We can say "God died" or the corpse was "God's body", but not "God was a dead body" or "the corpse was God". We don't say that the eucharistic bread is God, we only say the eucharistic bread is God's body.
The corpse and the eucharistic bread is human (not God), it is a human flesh. But it is the human flesh of God.
Lastly, when we pray to the dead body, the formal object of our prayer is not really the dead body, but the person of Christ Himself. I think that is what precisely in St. Alphonsus' mind. In the same way, when we pray before the blessed sacrament, the object of our prayer is not the consecrated bread (flesh of Christ) itself, but His person.
Fr. I believed that what I have said here are also what you mean by the phrases you made in your article, but it is important to point out the misleading connotations those phrases can have. - April 25, 2011 at 11:29 PM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
Red de la Rosa,
I agree that you and I are trying to say the same things ... the major difference is of emphasis and not of doctrine.
Still, you simply cannot say "We don't say that the eucharistic bread is God, we only say the eucharistic bread is God's body."
Moreover, the following line is even worse: "The corpse and the eucharistic bread is human (not God), it is a human flesh. But it is the human flesh of God."
You seem to be falling into a type of dualism ... the Person of the Word is hypostatically united to the humanity. Therefore, the humanity really is the Person of the Word. The human nature subsists in the person of the Word. The human nature has not separate act of existence other than that which it receives from being assumed by the divine person. In other words: As soon as we separate the humanity of Christ from his divine person, the humanity ceases to exist.
If by "God", I meant "Divine" or "The Divine Essence", it would be wrong of me to say "The Man Christ Jesus is God", or "The dead corpse of Christ was God" ...
However, as is clear in my article, by "God", I am denoting not the essence or nature, but the person ... Jesus is a Divine Person, he is God. He remained hypstatically united to the dead corpse ... therefore the corpse was Jesus, and it was God.
When it comes to the Eucharist, I need not even mention the fact that the Divinity of Christ is truly and really present ... it is enough to say that because Jesus is God, and the Eucharist is Jesus (even substantially), then it follows that the Eucharist is God.
The Eucharist is not the divine essence, nor is it the Father or Holy Spirit; it is God the Son. But, since the Son truly is God, and Jesus is truly the Son, and Jesus is truly the Eucharist; it follows that the Eucharist is God. Just as it follows that the man Christ Jesus is God (according to his person).
If the man Jesus Christ were not God and could not be called God, then St. Peter could never have said: "You put to death the Author of Life."
If your reasoning were correct, St. Peter would have had to say, "You separated the human soul of God from the human body of God, not killing God but rather killing the humanity which God had assumed." But Peter did not say this, because he was not a heretic.
In truth, I find your radical separation of nature from person to be very troubling ... it smells like Nestorianism.
You write as though the flesh of Christ (either in his proper species or in the eucharistic species) could somehow be separated from the Divine Person of the Word and made a person unto itself.
This is why I chose the somewhat provocative title for the post -- to root out any remnants of the Nestorian heresy. - April 25, 2011 at 11:56 PM
- R. de la Rosa said...
I agree with your observations that my way of explanation may sound like a type of dualism close to Nestorianism, as several others have already pointed out. But as you said already, the problem lies in our emphasis. I tend to emphasize the separation of the two natures in order to correct the lingering idea which confuses or merges the two natures to the point of asserting that even the divinity suffered and died. Thus, my explanations may be misleading, but they need not for those who correctly understand the doctrine.
I agree with you that Christ is only a single being. This is very clear in our metaphysics lesson. And that Christ's humanity has no act of being save in His divine Person. However, let me emphasize too that Christ has a human personality also. Phenomenologically and psychologically speaking, Christ is a two persons (one Divine and one human). Meaning, He has a human personality because he has a human consciousness, flowing from his human intellect and will.
Also, I believe both statements are correct: 1. What was killed was only his humanity (or what died was the human body only). 2. Christ died, God died, the "author of life died". I don't see any contradiction in them. I don't see any reason why you should oppose them. St. Peter could have said them both. Peter could have said the first one if he is to explain the doctrine in precise terms. It is true that we attribute death to the person because the person is the ultimate end of attribution. But we can also attribute death to the nature. That is what I mean.
Let me emphasize that when I attribute things pertaining to Christ' human nature only, I do not mean that Christ' humanity is also a person (in metaphysical terms). Metaphysically (which is different from psychology) Christ is only a single person, albeit he has a human personality too. And so, even if we attribute human acts to Christ' human agency (human intellect and human will) it should not be interpreted that we accept that there are two hypostasis (persons) in Christ.
So, as you can see father, the type of dualism which is observable in my explanations is not Nestorian dualism which claims that there are two hypostases in Christ. The dualism lies in my emphasis that the actions of Christ are first attributed in his human agency, which is truly a human personality – it is truly human "self" or "I" or "ego" as understood in psychological terms. Thus, when Christ said, "Father, not my will but yours be done", he was speaking as a truly human "self" – a truly "human person", to speak in psychological terms.
So I disagree to an extent with your statement that "the humanity really is the Person of the Word". In my understanding, there is quite a difference with our substantial unity compared to Christ. In ordinary human beings, the body really is the person, but we cannot say this univocally with Christ. Our philosophy of man, is to an extent, not completely applicable to Christ. The reason for this is because while our human personality is identical to ourselves, to our person or hypostasis, it is not in Christ, because he don't only have a human nature which subsist in His person; His nature is also truly and uniquely a human personality, but not a unique hypostasis or person (metaphysically). This, I think, is the type of dualism which is often ignored in discussions pertaining to the Hypostatic union. - April 26, 2011 at 12:54 AM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
Red de la Rosa,
Your line of reasoning will end up leading to Nestorianism ...
If I cannot say that the body of Jesus (whether alive or dead) is God, then I cannot say that Mary gave birth to God -- I would have to say she gave birth to the human body of God. But then, I am speaking of the body as though it is a substance unto itself, existing in/from itself ... hence, I would be saying that it is a hypostasis.
No, this line of reasoning is wrong! The Church prays to the body and the soul of Christ: Soul of Christ, sanctify me; body of Christ, save me. And she can pray this way only because the soul and body of Christ really and truly are God, by virtue of the hypostatic union.
You bring up the human person: I am my body, and my body is me.
You say that this does not hold for Christ's divine person -- however, St. Thomas (based on Scripture, Tradition, and reason) teaches that the union of natures in Christ is greater than the union of soul and body in man. [see ST III, q.2, a.9, esp ad 2]
Mary is the Mother of God, not merely the mother of the body which God assumed.
The Eucharist is God, not merely the body and soul which the Son assumed.
Certain men crucified God, not merely the body of God.
And Jesus said, "I thirst" ... he did not merely say "My body thirsts."
Jesus is his body, and Jesus is God; therefore the body of Jesus is God. - April 26, 2011 at 8:08 AM
- R. de la Rosa said...
Thanks father for your patient response with me. I guess this will be my last reply.
As I have said, both statements are correct. They can both be said within the limits of the rules of the communication of idioms. So the statement "Mary gave birth to the human body of God" is as true as the statement "Mary gave birth to God". The former will only be wrong or heretical if it is understood in denial of the latter, that is, if to say it is to admit that the human body is also a human hypostasis as Nestorius claimed. But if the former is understood in consonance with the latter, then it is a correct expression. The former often comes out as an explanatory statement of the latter to prevent misconstrual.
So, I find it unacceptable that you seem to think that the two are mutually exclusive.
You said: //If I cannot say that the body of Jesus (whether alive or dead) is God, then I cannot say that Mary gave birth to God//
I disagree with the inference. We can say that Mary give birth to God but we cannot say that the body of Jesus is God; because when we say Mary gave birth to God, we don't refer to His body but to the person who was born of the Virgin Mary. Hence, we say Mary gave birth to God. But when you say the body of Christ is God, the statement is not anymore referring to his person but to the body itself. And it is wrong to say that the body is God (but of course I understand that you are not saying that the body is divine).
//I am the body, and the body is me//, this is true to us ordinary human persons, but I find some difficulties if this is applied to Christ. The human personality of Christ can say to His body "I am the body, and body is me" as anyone of us can. But regarding the Divine Person (Logos), there must be some reservations or nuances. After all, we in fact sometimes say "the human intellect of Christ even in the state of glory does not comprehend totally Himself (Divinity)". This statement sounds even more dualistic than my statements, but we do use this as a correct expression, right? This is in fact the basis why some theologians raise the question whether Christ is conscious of His Divinity. They are referring to His human consciousness (personality) - whether this human consciousness is conscious of His Divinity.
Some apologists, I have observe on the net, react and say that to ask whether Christ is conscious of His divinity is a blasphemy, because for them, it is absurd that Christ, being God Himself, should not be conscious of his divinity. But I think, they only failed to grasp the entire point of the question owing to the defect of their understanding of the dogma.
They think that the self of Christ, His consciousness which Mary, the apostles, and His disciples relate with, is the Divine self or the Divine Personality. But this is wrong, because Christ, who walked at the Jerusalem land, was a true man. He has a complete human nature, which means that he has a human consciousness, a human self, a human I or ego.
This human consciousness is the one that is being referred to by dogmatic theologians. They ask whether this human consciousness was conscious or aware of His divinity while still young. If this human consciousness is not totally conscious or does not totally comprehends His own divinity even in the state of glory (in heaven), then, the theologians ask, whether it was also conscious of His divinity while still in the womb of Mary. The answer of some theologians is that it was conscious by virtue of an infusion of knowledge. - April 26, 2011 at 6:18 PM
- R. de la Rosa said...
//Jesus is his body// is true. However, the "his" here does not refer to the Divine personality but to the human personality.
The mistake which I recognized among many is that they think that the consciousness (self, ego, or I) of Jesus speaking and relating to the people of His time is the Divine consciousness. But this is very much mistaken. If this is the case, then that would jeopardize the Church's entire understanding of the Immutability of the Divine consciousness (Intellect and Will) which is numerically common among the Trinity. If that self speaking to the apostles is also the Divine consciousness, then that would mean that the Trinity is speaking in them, since there is only numerically one Divine consciousness.
So my conclusion father is this: The church condemns dualism in human person - an attempt to separate the person from his body (because it has serious ethical implications). But this condemnation of dualism should not be construed as if it also applies to Christ's human nature and Divine Person. I can remember some authors speaking of the difference of unity in human persons and the unity of the second Divine Person with his human nature. The Hypostatic Union is greater and closer than the union of body and soul, as Thomas taught; but I guess it means something different, and the inference that you have made from it may not be correct.
My last words father: I believe, as you have already said, that we don't differ in doctrine but only in our way of articulating it. If my expressions still appear to you to be savoring Nestorianism, rest assured that I am definite in my rejection of Nestorianism. I guess, all I have to do now is to review about this topic to polish my understanding, and thus, be able to articulate it with more accuracy.
God Bless! - April 26, 2011 at 6:19 PM
- Father Ryan Erlenbush said...
@Red de la Rosa,
Well, it is clear that our debate is much more about the means of articulating metaphysics than about a difference of belief.
I will say that it is clear that you have a good foundation in philosophy ... still, I would say that the discussion of a human personality and divine personality in Christ is a very tricky topic; one not to be discussed too lightly.
In any case ... the key point I have been making is that, by "God", I refer not to the divine essence but to the Person of the Word ... therefore, it is most certainly true to state that the corpse was God, since the Person of the Word remained hypostatically united to it.
Your point (which boils down to the assertion that there are two natures in Christ) is also well taken. However, you went too far in affirming that we cannot say that the Eucharist is God or that the corpse is God.
Blessings to you. And I do hope you will comment on future posts as well! + - April 26, 2011 at 8:15 PM
- Stacy Trasancos said...
The "Bright Maiden" Julie @ The Corner With A View posted a poem that goes with this post, Reginaldus.
The Power and the Glory ("Seven Stanzas at Easter" by John Updike) - April 28, 2011 at 7:36 AM
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