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Where do I eat when I'm not hustling to find something to review? Here's where I'm going right now, just for fun, because it feels special, and maybe also, to impress a friend.
*** In Love with Lupulo
It must be love. I was sitting at a far corner near the kitchen at George Mendes lively new Lupulo two Fridays in a row and with the same two friends. The lofty tavern with it's good-looking blue-and-white tile, rope dividers and wrought iron fairly vibrates with good cheer from the rotating full house. Another way of saying "noisy." And George himself is on the run everywhere.
Butterfield chicken crisply fried over the embers with very good fries and hot piri piri sauce.
But it's the small Portuguese dishes, mostly coming off the wood-burning grill that brings me back again -- the charred cucumber and razor clam salad, grilled green asparagus with sea urchin, sorrel and walnut, the blood sausage in a toss with favas ramps and morels. Not to mention the dense Portuguese bread from Newark to mop up the last drop of sauce. I don't mind at all that, depending on what you order, you can put together a modestly priced dinner. The shrimp porridge with a soft hen egg is enough for the table to share. And, amazingly, a $14 half of chicken -- marinated his Mom's way, butterflied and charred crisp – with a fiery piri piri pepper sauce -- is also enough for four. 835 Sixth Avenue between 29th and 30th streets. 212 290 7600.
*** Landmark Eating with Icons
My idolizing of Ian Schrager, the perfectionist hotelier, and my longstanding delight in David Rockwell's design lured me to The Clocktower as soon as it opened. (Read my review by clicking here.) The good-looking youths at the door, the exaggerated welcome, and the extravagant show of black and white photography on the walls – artists in the bar, music idols in the billiard room, cultural icons in the blue room – conspired to temper critical defenses. I was impressed that Schrager had enticed seasoned restaurateur Stephen Starr to partner with the British star chef who would ultimately be going home to his many Michelin-starred tables, leaving his right hand number two behind.
But it's Jason Atherton's English food, the scrumptious rye bread and buttermilk-infused butter, and his witty, imported, tabletop touches – the death's head plate for the steak, the collection of chicken-shaped gravy boats – that bring me back again now for my own pleasure. I like the raw diver scallops, Alaskan king crab, and chicken with white asparagus (best at the height of fat white asparagus season). Not-Exactly-Mom's macaroni with morels, the duck on sauce a l'orange, and the chicken for two linger in my mind as dishes I must repeat, although at a recent dinner my friend and I each had the burger with bacon, cheddar and Churchill sauce (ketchup and mayo by a grander name). The fat soggy chips were better cooked extra-crisp as demanded. 5 Madison Avenue, entrance on East 24th Street. 212 413 4300.
*** If It's Good Enough For Ralph
I'm not really the clubby type and if you analyze it even without malice, Ralph Lauren's Polo fantasy is really a hoot. But never mind, I'm free to go to Polo Bar when anyone calls to invite me. It's fun, with golden light that flatters aging epidermi, and welcoming smiles – nice is the new haughty. With the polo mallets hanging on the wall and an abandoned helmet next to the roses on the entrance table, it's a Disneyland for grownups. (Read my early rave.)
Lauren opened his first Polo Bar because he couldn't get a burger in Paris, reason to go for it.
The food is not the point, but it's not bad at all. And I like what Ralph likes to eat, the cheese-infused popovers, the overstuffed corned beef sandwich, the Ranch House chili with a pecorino biscuit, a phyllo-crusted crab cake, the iceberg wedge, the good-enough chicken and a salty bone-in rib eye. My friend who is almost a regular always orders the Dover sole. I impressed a pal visiting from Aspen by scoring a table recently and we both had towering burgers with unusually good fries. Ralph understands desserts too: I love the walnut-studded brownie with warm chocolate sauce poured on, and his idea of apple pie. On summer weekends when regulars disappear to the Hamptons, you might see some curious-looking everyday types in tank tops. Sorry about that. 1 East 55th Street between Fifth and Madison. 212 207 8562.
*** Welcome to Harlem
I've never taken anyone to The Cecil in Harlem who didn't succumb to its look -- the diverse crowd of downtowners and locals -- and the African-Asian-Low Country menu dreamed up by managing partner Alexander Small and delivered by chef J.J. Johnson. (Click here to read my first review.) I stopped going for a while when the house cruelly reduced the size of the "small" macaroni and cheese. But I couldn't stay away. On my most recent visit, I persuaded my friends to let me order the chef's new dishes.
Grilled hibiscus-glazed St. Louis ribs with blue cornmeal cake is an excellent addition to the menu.
Some of those we tasted had a confusion of too many ingredients. The giant pork dumpling with grilled peaches was a bit overwrought, but we liked the lamb carpaccio with silken tofu sauce, and the mussels in a tangy stew of duck sausage, with roti and a powerful dose of yuzu. Both the sweet and smoky duck with English peas and the meaty and chewy St Louis ribs on blue cornmeal cake were hits. Of course, I had to have the house's crusty mac'n'cheese. The chef sent it out as his gift in a large clay casserole as I remembered it, enough for all of us to share. I can't guarantee yours will look the same. As a finale, the four of us divided a delicious small coconut tart with sweet potato ice cream and dollops of yuzu curd. 210 West 118th Street at St. Nicholas Avenue. 212 866 1262.
*** Dim Sum Mastery at Red Farm
The Upper West Side Red Farm is my local. It doesn't hurt that it's a four-minute walk from my place. I probably would go less often, except that everyone, especially out-of-town kin, count on me getting a table. I explain to newbies that Red Farm is about dim sum – that's Chef Joe's unique talent. He has more than a 1000 dim sum, both savory and sweet, in his repertoire. I'm disappointed he doesn't rotate new ones into the menu more often. (Click here to read about it.)
Shrimp-stuffed chicken is a banquet dish but Joe Ng's version is uniquely wonderful.
I must have smoked salmon eggplant bruschetta – the crisp chip of fried eggplant stands in for the toast. Then depending on whether my companions are vegetarian or not, I order the shrimp and snow-pea-leaf dumpling, the lamb shooters, vegetable-peanut dim sum and Shanghai soupy buns. If my guest is a guy, I feel I must let him try Katz's pastrami egg roll. (I, myself, try to avoid anything fried.) Since I discovered the chef's sublimely crispy shrimp-stuffed chicken, that's become my entrée. I let my guest choose a vegetable dish: If they insist on noodles, I push for wide rice noodles with BBQ duck. 2170 Broadway between 76th and 77th streets. 212 724 9700.
*** Bustan Takes the Upper West Side
It's true I discovered Bustan the week it opened, with its famous Israeli chef manning the big blue taboon (its custom-built oven.) But the neighborhood discovered it too, and it's been packed ever since. Now, though the chef has decamped and they're new faces at the door, it's often booked days ahead, even with the garden and sidewalk tables added on balmy nights. (Read that review by clicking here.)
Lamb kebabs with caramelized onion, tomato and pignolis baked under a pita is so rich, it easily feeds four.
I can't imagine launching a meal here without a row of classic Middle Eastern spreads -- called mezettim on the menu -- smoked eggplant, spicy feta, tzatziki, and taramasalata -- to pile on oily pita warm from the taboon. I often order three spreads. My favorite waiter might bring five and a second bread when the first is gone. We share a beet salad with grilled haloumi cheese, possibly the falafel basket with tahini. And for a main, chopped lamb kebabs with caramelized onion, tomatoes and pignolis baked in terracotta under a bread dome. 487 Amsterdam between 83rd and 84th Streets. 212 595 5050.
*** Lincoln Ristorante is My Inevitable
Once I discovered the $28 two-course prix fixe at Jean-Georges in the back room. (To read my 2007 love letter click here.) I used to do all my business and romantic lunches there. But now that magical space is always full and the price has climbed to $48. So I wait for Daddy Warbucks to take me for dinner and I do my lunches at Lincoln Restaurant, $36 for two courses. It's walking distance from my office, for one thing. I love the view from almost any table. And I never cease to be amazed by Jonathan Benno's cooking. (For more details click here.)
Marinated sea trout with olives, salmon roe and watercress is a thrilling still life.
Each month he explores a different region of Italy. The pastas are endlessly inventive. The lamb shoulder during the last restaurant week was so thrilling, a friend and I returned and persuaded him to serve it for dinner. When I come early to eat before the theater on my own dime, I usually order an appetizer, a salad or whatever the chef is doing with polenta, and a remarkable eggplant parmigiana with buffalo mozzarella, an $18 contorni, as my main course. Once Benno sent out a polenta made from fresh corn paved all over with thin tiles of black truffle. A gift. But I promise you don't need a gift from the chef to feel special here. Try bucatini alla trapaneze from the current Sicilian-inspired menu. Mixed gelatos and sorbetti are a dessert to share, followed by sweet tidbits from the dessert chef. Complimentary for everyone. 142 West 65th Street between Broadway and Amsterdam. 212 359 6500.
*** Passage to a Fantasy Italy
I recently took fussy friends to Shelly Fireman's new downtown trattoria-bar Florian with its great-looking marble tile and outrageous sculptures. I hadn't been back since my first report and I was disappointed not to see the marvelous seafood soup with farro. But I sipped a classic Negroni by the outrageously handsome Francesco and ordered my favorite dishes -- the spring pizza with peas, ramps and fontina, fried artichokes alla Guidea, the artichoke calzone, lasagna ossobuco and spaghetti carbonara with a fried egg to smash into it. An uptight burrata with not enough creamy flow was the only disappointment. The made-to-order mountain of vanilla ice cream with hot chocolate to pour over it especially impressed our ice cream expert. 225 Park Avenue South between 18th and 19th streets. 212 869 8800.
I never grow bored with putting together a vegetable plate at Café Fiorello's antipasti display.
I would surely go to Florian more often, but it's a $60 round trip cab ride from my place. You are much more likely to spot me at Fireman's Cafe Fiorello across from Lincoln Center, especially when my niece Dana is in town: The two of us select mostly vegetables from the antipasto table. And finish with intense lemon sorbetto to clear the palate. Click here to read "Flirting with Fiorello". 1900 Broadway between 64th and 63rd streets. 212 595 5330.
*** Broadway with the Early Birds
I've been going to the theater more than usual lately and I find I do better the next day with a light supper before rather than who-knows-what after a late curtain. More often than not, Blue Fin is a fast walk from the theater. The last time I was there, the birds flying up the stairs had disappeared and I heard the ground floor space would reopen as Dos Caminos in fall.
I love sitting near the bannister overlooking the stairs to Blue Fin where the birds fly.
But meanwhile, as long as Blue Fin keeps serving, I'll start with four Cherrystones on the half shell -- icy cold and huge. Six would be too filling. I might share steamed shrimp dumplings and shrimp and lobster spring rolls depending on the appetite of my companion. But if he's eyeing a steak, I'll order a couple of sushi rolls to follow, and always the spicy tuna roll. I finish with an espresso and sometimes a chocolate chip cookie still warm from the oven. I can't say I'm thrilled to see the Blue Fin menu shrink as it has, but I'm not discouraged. Blue Fin is scheduled to close in early September and reopen early in October. Best check before coming. 1567 Broadway at West 46th Street. 212 918 1400.
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Friday, June 18, 2010
Is Cherry Picking a Good Thing?
I'm ok with cherry picking religious beliefs in general because I think that it has helped push beliefs towards a more beneficial outcome. Today you hear people claiming that the Christian God is Love and other such nonsense, but I'd rather them intentionally ignore the bad parts in their holy book than to accept it all unquestioningly if they're going to believe in both cases already.
He raised some good points about how it's good many Muslims are moderate--and not like their more fanatical counterparts. I get the point, I really do. But here are my thoughts:
This is a question with no answer. Someone recently posted on Facebook an article about an American association of physicians who initially came out with a position that it's OK to "nick" infant female genitalia as a substitute for a full female circumcision--which they feared some families would go back to the old country to get if doctors here wouldn't do it. However, they then reversed their stance to say that, in fact, doctors should counsel and support the families, but not perform any such ritualistic procedures.
What should they do? Should they cause small harm, in order to mitigate greater harm? Or should they stand firm against all harm?
I compared it in a recent dialog to chemo therapy. Some chemo treatments have long-term, or even permanent awful effects on people's bodies. But the idea is that this toxic cocktail will save someone's life, so we induce harm, in order to mitigate worse harm. And most people agree this is the right course. BUT, what if we found a cure for cancer that inflicted no harm tomorrow, but some oncologists insisted upon continuing to use chemo treatments? Would it still be the right course of action?
Making religion somewhat less toxic, I can see, is preferable to having it be fully toxic. But I personally, as a reformed Christian myself, know that there is a cure available that eliminates the harm altogether. And with that knowledge, I can't, in good conscience, pursue the course of mitigating harm, when a cure that eliminates the harm is available.
I can't speak for everyone--but this is how I view it and how I address the problem.
And I think it also covers the "cherry picking" question. To support a book that encourages subjugation of women and killing other people who don't believe what you do, to me, is inexcusable. It would be like joining the KKK because you like the social networking, but reject the racist agendas.
So, for what it's worth?
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I agree that, if we just _had_ to have adherence to religious holy books, the current practice of the vast majority of theists of cherry-picking the "good" stuff and ignoring the bad is to be preferred.
But, as Tracie points out here, we _don't_ have to have this adherence. In other words, this begs the question - why bother with the holy shit (literally) at all? What this really demonstrates is that the believer _is_ relying on an external morality and _is_ able to choose right from wrong _independently_ of the holy edicts.
I think the better thing to do is to point this tendency out to the believer wherever possible instead of simply acknowledging that they do this. Let's tell them _why_ they do this; then hopefully they can then come to the understanding that the holy shit is superfluous (regarding right vs wrong) and can be dispensed with.
So in my view, it's a good thing only insofar as it serves as a tool to demonstrate the superfluity of the "good/bad come from the bahble" crapola when it comes to moral choices to the believer. But in and of itself, no, I think it's mostly a vacuous thing that doesn't serve any purpose.
LSThe question becomes though, by what standard do we cherry pick the sacred texts? How do we determine which parts are okay and which parts to toss out? Inevitably two groups of followers will disagree on something they've decided to cherry pick. Both groups being supported by the same sacred text, how do we say one is right without being hypocritical?
ReplyDeleteHere is my take on cherry picking: to define a moral or an ethic, it is reassuring that worshippers, whether they are Christian, muslim or others, cherry pick. They would be like their coreligious fundies otherwise and the world would be a much worse place. I remember many religion teachers from my teenage who knew the Bible enough to see that there were horrible things taught in it, they simply thought it was man's perception imposed on God's book. They simply couldn't believe that a good God would condone or advocate massacres, cruelty and injustice. One had to "read between the lines" as one of my teachers said. Contradictory, but I am glad they were not advocating a literalist interpretation of the "Good" Book's "moral" code.
However, cherry picking is intellectually dishonest, if not cowardly, when one claims that any sacred text or any faith is true in any metaphysical sense and has absolute moral authority. You can't have it both ways and accept that your book is wrong on a number of issues and then claims it is all authoritative.>The question becomes though, by what standard do we cherry pick the sacred texts?<
Actually, that already _is_ the basic question.
And the answer is "it's complicated" (human morality is actually a huge subject and a lot of ink has been spilled on the matter).
But the really important thing is getting away from _biblical_ morality (speaking xianity-centrically here) which isn't a moral code at all. Instead it's an utter clusterfuck of contradictions and puny, measly and barbaric notions about mankind and how we should treat our world and each other.
That's step #1. But that done, we at least have hope because we've escaped the fantasy world of the bahble and can now use reason and evidence for making moral judgments in the normal way.
LSI agree that Cherry picking is wrong. it is a violation of your religion, and proves it to be a false religion.
However. I beleive that the Bible is True and correct and the word of God. and I adhere to it in its entirety, in correlation with further revelation that was necessary. The Old testament is just that OLD it was right in that time to wipe out evil just so abruptly. but with the new testament we were given new commandments to turn the other cheek instead of eye for an eye.
If you are going to believe in the Bible it must be taken literally. not by reading between the lines or adding to or subtracting from it,at your own whim.- Anonymous6/18/2010 7:48 PM
Yeah, i've heard the whole "oh you're only looking at the bad stuff in the bible and ignoring all the good things it teaches" cherry picking argument before, and I don't by it.
He was on a slightly different topic when he said it, but I think Shilling absolutely nailed this on an episode of the non profits.
Imagine that there there is a guy you know. Nicest guy you've ever met. Always polite and curtious. Pays his taxes. Donates to charity. Works hard. Volunteers at the local soup kitchen. Loves his wife and kids. On weekends he even waits until after midday to use one of those irritating blower vax on his driveway. But.... every couple of years ye goes out and kills a hooker.... Is this guy moral?
If the answer is no, then it really doesn't matter what good stuff the bible says. As long as every other page is an endorsement of slavery or ethnic cleansing or rape or whatever, the whole thing is rotten and you can't accept it as any kind of moral guide. "However. I beleive that the Bible is True and correct and the word of God. and I adhere to it in its entirety, in correlation with further revelation that was necessary. The Old testament is just that OLD it was right in that time to wipe out evil just so abruptly. but with the new testament we were given new commandments to turn the other cheek instead of eye for an eye. "
Ok, good to know. You're a monster.
I'm not being coy here. You are a monsterous human being. You claim that genocide used to be ok. That when the bible says it was good to smash a babies head against a rock and revel in the spilled blood, it was at the time.
You don't understand humanity or morality at all. You don't LOVE your fellow man, you can't because you thought 'hey some time in the past it would have been ok for me to enslave my hindu neighbor.' 'in the past it was ok to pelt my child with rocks until he died from internal bleeding.' You don't see rape, genocide, murder, theift, cruetly as bad because you see it hurts people and you care about them. You see it as bad because your master told you. You're not a good person. You're amoral. You don't get to call yourself a 'good' person. You're an ignorant ogre who on the change of your master's whim would be willing to rip the throat out of your grandmother. Those past things that are bad now, ok then because they were just following orders. Yeah, when you say that you don't get to call yourself a person anymore in my book.Oh also honey, Jesus claimed that not a SINGLE word of the old testament was invalidated by him. So yeah if you're not keeping Kosher and putting homosexuals to death you're going against the direct word of your Fuhrer.
To answer your question Tracie THIS is exhibit A on why cherrypicking is unacceptable to me. The religion in general fosters this ignorant mind poison that turns people into sleepwalking amoral slaves.Also dont forget that the New Testament isnt all butterflies and rainbows flowing out of Jesus's hands.
Theres still PLENTY of slavery endorsement and racism (even by jesus himself), woman bashing, outright stupidity etc.
So even trying to hand-wave the OT away doesn't make the bible that much better.I often wonder how believers can be presumptuous enough to interpret the word of their heavenly master. They believe to have been revealed the ultimate truth about the universe by its very creator but still dare to pick and choose only those parts from his divine wisdom they already agree with.
Why should your interpretation of the holy word have any more merit than e.g. that of Fred Phelps? As a fallible human being your interpretation and cherry picking you must necessarily distort the will of your divine dictator.
To me there is only one way out: You either accept your holy scripture in its entirety, verbatim, or you abandon it completely. Everything else is just a hypocrisy.
"Is Cherry Picking a Good Thing?" If you pick from a source that inspired countless atrocities in the past then no, it's not. The lesser of two evils is still evil.@Maryanne-I will add to what people said to you that you are confusing moral and worship. They are two different things and in many regards mutually exclusive. Because a God or a sacred text commands you to do something does not make it de facto moral. And many of the Bible's teaching cannot and should not be applied to modern democratic society, especially not as moral absolute.
ReplyDeleteIt is impossible to take moral guidance from the bible and not cherry pick. The difference between fundies and "liberals" is only a matter of degree. Not even today's fundamentalists take all of Leviticus as a moral guide. With a book as contradictory as the bible, no believer can take the whole thing at face value and be functional in the real world.
I do not understand how a believer can reject the OT and still believe in an all powerful god. The logical conclusion should be that the people of the old testament were a bunch brutal barbarians because that is the way god wanted them to be. He could easily have made them a bunch of sophisticated barbarians more like what we have today.I think someone's just trolling here, but it's a good example to go through to point out the contradictions for the morons who really do believe this kind of stuff:
>However. I beleive that the Bible is True and correct and the word of God.<
No, you don't. See below.
> and I adhere to it in its entirety, in correlation with further revelation that was necessary.<
Of course you don't - note the "in correlation with..." excuse you've implanted in your statement. Unless you actually follow the edicts in Leviticus for example, you actually _don't_ adhere to biblical teaching "in its entirety". Do you keep indentured servants in your home? According to my bible (KJV), Leviticus 25 says you can and even should and outlines the rules for human being trafficking. God's law, right there in your book. Do you really follow it to the letter as you say you should? If not, why not?
>The Old testament is just that OLD it was right in that time to wipe out evil just so abruptly.<
Er, no, the OT is _part of the bible_; that's why it's still in there.
> but with the new testament we were given new commandments to turn the other cheek instead of eye for an eye.<
Er, ok, so.... then what of the OT and it's eye for an eye edict? Is it really god's word or not? If it's just old stuff as you say, why is it still in the bible? Think about it - why are the revisions in the NT necessary? Couldn't god have gotten it right the first time and not have to leave it up to mankind to filter through all this stuff and try to figure it out?
You don't need to answer out loud. Just consider the questions; try to come up with more of your own, too.
LSMy big problem with cherry picking, is that the original texts are still there. It might be different if each generation that cherry picked themselves away from the barbaric practices in the Bible and other 'holy' books were somehow able to expunge completely the things that they rejected, but they can't. No matter how much cherry picking they do, they still insist that (insert religion here) is true.
That means that all it takes is for one charismatic individual, in the right place, to preach a return to a 100% literal, no cherry-picking, approach to the holy book, and you could well be right back in the shit once more.>You don't understand humanity or morality at all. <
Actually no - we need to give credit where credit is due on this. If the writer here isn't just trolling, we can show that she actually _does_ have an understanding of a basic morality based in cooperation, kindness towards her fellow human beings, etc.
As I said, note the trap door she's injected into her original statement of compliance: "I adhere to it in it's entirety ...with further revelation that was necessary". That's very different from "I adhere to it in its entirety" _period_. The latter is is what you'd expect from someone who really believes this shit. Instead, she issues a proviso and also goes on to offer more apologies like the OT is just "old stuff" that's been updated by new revelations, etc....
So clearly, this person (again speaking subjunctively since I'm not yet convinced she isn't just trolling) would actually be a good example of someone who's _better_ than her religion and is able to exercise at least some level of moral behavior.
So a more accurate judgment, to me, would be that this person is simply confused. That's a lot more likely given the general confusion offered by Gawd's Law in the first place, especially when it's regarded as a body of factual knowledge rather than the simple, garden-variety mythology that it really is.
Very very few people really honest to Gawd follow this crap to the letter which really shows that their morality is quite intact....
LS>I do not understand how a believer can reject the OT and still believe in an all powerful god.<
The believers don't really understand it either, so don't worry - you're not alone.
In fact, when you boil it all down, the entire discipline of Christian theology is nothing more than an institutionalized expression of confusion over the nonsense of the bible and the attempts to patch it all up into something that does make sense. It sill amazes me that you can get a _college degree_ in this subject and never really understand that your concentration is actually "Bullshit".
Listen to Christopher Hitchens take down Dennis Prager for example (on youtube), or listen to the Matt Dillahunty vs. Matt Slick show on the TAG. In both cases the apologists are literally made monkeys of, but they continue to retreat into theological nonsense in order to stay afloat, _utterly_ unaware of what they're actually doing.
So even the adherents recognize the inherent ridiculousness of the bible when it's regarded as a true plan for living and expend considerable mental effort trying to reconcile that notion.
All of that goes away when you consider it a work of literature or mythology - then it's just poetry and fairy tales and looks "right size".
LS@ Guillamune
I would modify your statement a bit. What God commanded and how the Isrealites supposedly lived and did shouldn't have even been applied in the past. It was evil, vicious, and barbaric then and they only get a excuse due to ignorance. We know better, we know it was wrong then, which is why we dont do it now...ideally@Icionofury
You should read the Acts of Thomas, which starts with Jesus himself selling the apostle (and apparently his brother) into slavery.
Truely he is the prick of pricks.
The Jesus people use now a days has more in common with Disk World's Death than it does with the actual character from ancient scripturesI think this post and the last are indicative of a common view among some atheists and nontheists--that religion in moderation causes no harm and should not be criticized because hey, at least it's not fundamentalism, right? The person who called into AETV to ask "what's wrong with being 'spiritual'?" is an example. The idea is that while irrationality is, of course, bad, it's okay in small doses and might even have some good side effects. Like getting people to love their neighbor and to be calmer, gentler people.
I think this type of reasoning is based on a more disturbing set of premises:
- That most people need religion and will never stop believing in their sky-gods. We should instead push for moderate religion, since a complete lack of religion is an impossible goal.
- That people need to be manipulated with lies in order to get them to act morally.
Maybe I'm wrong about this, but whenever I hear someone nonreligious say "What's wrong with a little religion?" it sounds to me like they're saying "I am smart enough to make decisions based on reason and reality, but all these other people are dumb and need their lies to function."@LS
I'm taking her at face value and responding to that. If she believes what she claim she isn't better than her religion, she is amoral. Without morality. There is no judgement of good or evil for her only obidience. Genocide isn't bad because of the harm it does, it's bad because God decided to fuck with us and put arbitrary restrictions on our abilities. At any time he could say 'yup, lets bring that back, kill at the muslims'. Or he could do something different and say 'changed my mind, now child sacrifice is good. boil your children in lard and eat them'. There's no difference qualatativly between "A man has no greater gift than to lay down his life for a friend" and "blessed is he who dashes the little ones against rocks".
I'd like her to answer how she knows Hitler wasn't given the go ahead from god. He hailed Luther and all that and was following in tradition and scriptural hate of the jews. His soldiers wore "God is with us" on their buckles dedicating their slaughter to Jesus thus they fly under the banner of the Christ god. How do we know God didn't side with them and gave Hitler the same order against the jews that he gave the hebrews against the cananites? You can't say it's not in his character because they believe he did it before and just hasn't SINCE.
No, I cut her no slack. She is monsterous because she's sold herself into slavery and is willing to do any order no matter how grotesque to serve her master. She endorses the ultimate moral relativism, she is amoral. If she really believes that she's no more moral than a scythe; no say whether her master uses her as a weapon or tool for harvest. She was born human and sold her personhood to aspire to be a scarecrow. SHe is a Quisling who has sold out to the ultimate tyrant for the promise of personal gain in orgamism land.
I doubt she fully realizes the implications of her belief, but if she does endorse it fully and embrace it then she should be locked away before she has a dream or hallucination of Jesus telling her to gun down a preschool.@ Dee W
Exactly, as I said before the non-handicaped shouldn't be allowed to live in wheelchairs just because they think they're too weak to walk. I'm mad at these people and this crap specifically because I believe people can do better, they've just latched onto an excuse to avoid personal growth.@ng-Of course wanton violence, cruelty and genocides were wrong then just as they are now. I meant that whatever the context these stories were written, they cannot be deemed moral by modern standards, hence they are worthless as moral guidance, let alone moral absolutes.
I should add that this is something Cherry Pickers perceive, but fail to follow to the logical conclusion.>I'm taking her at face value and responding to that. If she believes what she claim she isn't better than her religion, she is amoral. Without morality. There is no judgement of good or evil for her only obidience<
You're possibly correct, but again, my point would be that, unless further information about her demonstrates otherwise, she probably _doesn't_ believe that the bible should be "taken literally" and "in its entirety".
This is strongly suggested by her remarks; i.e. the backpedalling provisos I pointed out earlier. Also, the probable fact that she doesn't engage in human trafficking in the manner advocated in Leviticus, etc.
So, like many Xians, it's very likely she at least doesn't _act_ like she believes that bullshit.
Martin Luther King, for example, clearly was not a good Christian for the same types of reasons (this insight is courtesy of Christopher Hitchens, not me). And we can thank goodness that he wasn't - he too rejected most of the morality of the religion he aligned himself with and cherry-picked at will. And in so doing he practically single-handedly rescued our entire society from certain oblivion.
This is what distinguishes a national/world hero like MLK from a petty, mean criminal like Pat Robertson even within the same religious tradition - the former really _can_ tell right from wrong, where the latter clearly cannot. Guess who's the "better" Christian?
I still suspect she was a troll, since we don't seem to have heard from her since....
Her claim was that she believes it entirely, cherry picking is wrong, and she's only a human trafficker because she believe God changed the rules. If we transported her via TARDIS to 69 BC she would be willing to enslave people. By her own statement. I agree she probably sees it as wrong and woul dhave moral qualms with say beating her dog to death with a two-by-four if ordered by god...but she sees that humanity as a flaw. That's her lack of faith talking. It's not a shining glimmer of hope that she's a good person to her, it's a sign she's a degenerate worm blighted by sin. She's a person who aspires to be a mindless slave. And that's the problem with religion. If religion had convinced only one person of such a mindset it would be an abomination worthy of oblivion.Cherry picking is good. I cherry pick the best of the philosophy from the enlightenment, the best of economics from neo-classical and Keynesian and the best beer from the local pub.
If I ever found anything of worth in a holy book I'd cherry pick that too (the golden rule is not only not unique to the bible it is actually immoral).
However, the idea that we do a small harm to mitigate a greater one may be true when the harm is unavoidable but frankly if any parent came to me for a genital nick rather than full clitorectomy I'd have the child taken into care and the parents arrested. I can't see that any middle ground exists when it comes to the genital mutilation of children.The Golden Rule forces one to act, potentially against one's will - that is immoral. The Silver Rule alters the wording sufficiently to get round this.
TGR also cannot say anything about the weak being bullied by the strong. You are prohibited by it from taking sides in obviously immoral conflicts.
TGR would also lead to an equal share of wealth, or accumulation in those who do not follow the maxim. e.g. I would like rich people to give me their money, that also means I have to give my money to those less fortunate. Or it would mean I'd be unable to give to the poor as I wouldn't want them to give to me what little they had (depends on your particular reading of the rule.)
Criminals would be allowed to go free since no-one would want to be locked up, so could not lock up anyone else.
Suicidal people would be assisted to die (not that I am necessarily arguing against this, just pointing out that it is a consequence of the rule) and since we cannot truly know someone's intentions or mental state we would kill a lot of people that are sick or who are crying out for help.
I could go on, but you get the gist.But even the 'treat people as nicely as possible' falls foul of, say, Israeli mistreatment of the Palestinian people. No simple moral rule has anything to say about an armed state persecuting a minority within their country. Especially in this instance where there is actually a valid (understandable if you prefer) security reason for it.
It is a good principle, even though I massively prefer the silver version, but not the central plank of a moral framework."No simple moral rule has anything to say about an armed state persecuting a minority within their country. Especially in this instance where there is actually a valid (understandable if you prefer) security reason for it."
See now silly me figured "treat nicely" and "Persecute" were incompatible.And what should one do to people who don't treat others nice?
Or maybe a certain groups belief system is so incompatible with yours that persecution is the only/best/quickest/least harmful way to bring about a change in those beliefs?
Like I said, it's a nice idea but it should not be the guiding light in your decision making, especially in its Golden or Platinum form.I think my problems with the Golden Rule start with the first word: "Do"
Why not change it to: "Offer to do unto others as you'd like them to offer to do unto you"?
Which still doesn't get round the problem of stopping a bully since you have to take both people's wishes into consideration.
I much prefer an adaptation of the first of Asimov's three laws:
Do not injure a person, or through inaction, allow a person to come to harm.
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You mention that we are the problem for not getting the message out.. Getting the message out? What message can you get out that will put more disposable income in peoples wallets?? You can hire the world's greatest marketing firms to get the message out but if people are going broke it won't matter.
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So as less and less people are unable to afford high-end gear under a progressive tax structure, so leaves less and less high-end gear being sold to the general public.
Its funny, the same liberals that love high end audio and even the ones that produce such boutique gear will immediatekly run to the voting booths and vote-in the very ones that are destroying their business,
The moral of the story: When government acts, the market reacts.
The upshot is, when it all said and done,we will all be equally unable to afford such high-end audio gear,
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Bush products are designed and packaged for direct shipment. If needed, due to a large number (9 or more) or the size/weight of the items, we will deliver FREE to the room of your choice (unassembled). For your safety and convenience we will not deliver curbside or require you to carry anything inside. Orders ship complete. Inventory for all ordered items will be confirmed prior to shipment. No partial orders will be shipped. Most products ship in 1-2 business days from receipt of an online customer order. Standard transit times are 3-5 business days for shipment. All aspects of shipping are clearly marked on the product's page and will be highlighted when checking out. All products in your order are shipped via the same freight company to the contiguous 48 states.
Getting your furniture
Once your order ships you will receive an e-mail confirming the shipment and the carrier. You can sign into your Bush Home account with your e-mail and receive tracking information on your order. Or with you e-mail and order number you can get tracking information without signing in
Delivering your furniture
Most orders will ship within 1-2 business days. If you are unable to be at your home or place of business (and if it is safe to leave the item), the carrier will bring your package to the front door. If it is not advisable to leave the item, the shipper will contact you with alternate delivery instructions.
Undeliverable items
We will make every attempt to complete the delivery of an item. Multiple attempts will be made by the freight company to deliver in the event that the customer is unavailable or a wrong shipping address was provided. Standard Return Policy applies. Please contact a Customer Care associate at 1-800-950-4782 to make any adjustments for ensuring successful delivery.
Series C 72W Left Handed Corner Desk
71 in x 35 in x 30 in
United States
10 Years
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Wedding Limo Service Bergenfield NJ
Limos, Party Buses and more!
Looking for a luxurious Wedding Limo for your special day? West-Way limo is ready to give you the red carpet treatment for a price that will not break the bank. When choosing a wedding limo rental company in Bergenfield NJ make sure to hire one that has the reputation of treating their clients with the respect they deserve. At West-Way Limo of Bergenfield NJ we pride ourselves on providing quality limousines and top notch service.
More Wedding Information in Bergenfield NJ
Our Wedding Limo Rental Fleet in Bergenfield NJ
Without a doubt, your wedding is the ultimately one of the most important days of your life. There are many things you will need to plan for your Bergenfield NJ wedding including the limo rental. We would like to take some of the stress away by making sure our part is taken care of the right way.
Wedding Transportation Budget in Bergenfield NJ
When considering your wedding budget in Bergenfield NJ there are many aspects that go into allocating your money to different parts of the wedding. One thing to take into consideration is whether you will be providing transportation to your wedding party or a shuttle for you guests to and from the reception. Realize for the ultimate in enjoyment it is always nice for you, your wedding party and your guests to not have to worry about driving.
Sometimes there is not enough money in your Bergenfield NJ wedding budget to provide transportation for everyone. Rent a wedding limo that is perfect is very important to us. Are you looking for a classic look? Are you looking for a Affordable limousine rental in nj look no further WEST-WAY limo has you covered fill out our quote form or call today for a free quote? Have a large group that needs transportation then consider a Party Bus Rental? Whatever your desires West-Way Limo Rental of Bergenfield NJ can provide all your wedding transportation needs
Book Limo in Bergenfield NJ Advance
Depending on the time of year you could run into a situation where there is a limited selection of wedding limo rentals in Bergenfield NJ. Make sure to book your limo early to make sure you get all the amenities you would like.
When you decide to book a car service or limo in advance make sure to get a full quote with all fees upfront so there are no surprises when the day comes you have to pay. Also by having a written contact you protect yourself should something go wrong. Here at West-Way we pride ourselves on providing exactly what we promised and more!
Wedding Limo Rental Discounts
In Bergenfield NJ you can find wedding limo rental discounts during the winter season as there are not as many limos going on. Supply and demand take over when you move into the spring and summer months as the demand for luxurious limousines increases and so do the prices. We understand that due to the downturn in the economy that it is not always possible to spend that extra money on a luxury. This is why we try to have a wedding limo rental package in Bergenfield NJ that is affordable to everyone.
There are many different kinds of limos that are available for your special wedding.
Chrysler 300 Limousine in Bergenfield NJ
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Dental Services
At Brandon Complete Dental Care, we offer an array of different dental care services that we can provide for you & your family right here in Brandon.
From preventive cleanings to dental implants & dentures, Brandon Complete Dental Care is the place to go for all of your dental needs & in one convenient location. Please take your time to view & read more about all the dental services below that our patients can receive.
The professionals on our dental care team have dedicated their careers to providing the best care possible to our patients. While this page lists most of the dental care services we provide, please know that we are continuously educating ourselves on the latest dental care techniques, technologies & materials to provide you with the most advanced dental care available. All treatment decisions at our practice come from conversations between you & your dentist, & we are happy to offer dental care beyond the treatments listed here to fit your individual needs. If you have questions about any of our dental care services, please do not hesitate to ask.


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By Ben Walker
Associated Press
NEW YORK — ESPN anchor Hannah Storm returns to the air New Year's Day, exactly three weeks after she was seriously burned in a propane gas grill accident at her home.
Storm suffered second-degree burns on her chest and hands, and first-degree burns to her face and neck. She lost her eyebrows and eyelashes, and roughly half her hair.
Storm will host ABC's telecast of the 2013 Rose Parade on Tuesday. Her left hand will be bandaged and she said viewers might notice a difference in her hair texture where extensions have been added.
"I'm a little nervous about things I used to take for granted," she said by phone this weekend from Pasadena, Calif. "Little things like putting on makeup and even turning pages on my script."
The award-winning sportscaster and producer was preparing dinner outside her home in Connecticut on the night of Dec. 11 when she noticed the flame on the grill had gone out. She turned off the gas and when she reignited it "there was an explosion and a wall of fire came at me."
"It was like you see in a movie, it happened in a split-second," she said. "A neighbor said he thought a tree had fallen through the roof, it was that loud. It blew the doors off the grill."
With her left hand, she tore off her burning shirt. She tried to use another part of her shirt to extinguish the flames that engulfed her head and chest, while yelling for help. Her 15-year-old daughter, Hannah, called 911 and a computer technician who was working in the house grabbed some ice as Storm tried to cool the burns.
Soon, police and rescue teams arrived at the house. Storm's husband, NBC sportscaster Dan Hicks, also had returned home with another of the couple's three daughters. As her mother was being treated, the younger Hannah calmly said something that, days later, her mom could laugh about.
"OK, Mommy, I'm going to do my homework now," she said.
Storm was taken by ambulance to the Trauma and Burn Center at Westchester Medical Center and was treated for 24 hours.
"I didn't see my face until the next day and you wonder how it's going to look," she said. "I was pretty shocked. But my overarching thought was I've covered events with military members who have been through a lot worse than me, and they've come through. I kept thinking, `I can do this. I'm fortunate.'"
Other than going to Christmas Eve Mass, Storm hadn't been outside until her trip to California. ESPN reworked its anchor schedule while she was recovering, and NBC and the Golf Channel rearranged their staffing while Hicks attended to his wife.
Storm is set to host her fifth Rose Parade, with some changes. She's left-handed, and taking notes is almost impossible. Dressing and showering are challenges, too.
Storm said that long before her accident, she'd been inspired by Iraq War veteran, actor and "Dancing With the Stars" winner J.R. Martinez, the grand marshal at last year's parade. He was severely burned in a land mine accident while serving overseas.
One attraction of this year's parade that she was eager to see the Nurses' Float, and she hoped to use that moment on air to thank everyone who had taken care of her.
Storm wants to anchor "SportsCenter" in Bristol, Conn., next Sunday. After that, the Notre Dame alum is ready to go in person to watch the No. 1 Irish play Alabama in the national championship game at Miami. She said the school reached out after hearing about her injuries and had been very supportive.
"More than anything, I feel gratitude," she said. "Something like this really makes you appreciate everything you have, even the chance to wake up on New Year's Day and do your job."


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