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In response to District Ranger Derek Padilla's statement that there has been no official enforcement yet of road closures, what a truckload of manure. The USFS has been limiting access for years: Locked metal gates. Dusk-to-dawn access. Blocking ice-fishing access with dumping snow in Dolores. Not putting the docks in until June. Gill netting and killing walleyes that 90 percent of the fishermen want in McPhee.
Americans dealt with the Nazis, the fascists and the Red Menace. Your pottery shards, zebra mussels and four-wheel-drive ruts won't intimidate us. Tread lightly, my friends, tread lightly. You're not watching us. We're watching you.
Dan T. Alsop
Editor's note: The Forest Service has blocked County Road 28 to prevent it from being used by anglers attempting to avoid zebra mussel inspections; that has not eliminated ice-fishing access to McPhee Reservoir. The docks are generally in the water by Memorial Day weekend, water levels permitting. Regarding the walleye, management of wildlife is the responsibility of Colorado Parks and Wildlife, not the Forest Service.


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Grammy Award winning musician John Legend will be at Delaware State University later this month for a speaking engagement and mini-concert.
Tickets are now on sale for "An Evening with John Legend," a speaking engagement and mini-concert at 7 p.m., Wednesday, Feb. 27 in the Memorial Hall Gymnasium on the campus of Delaware State University. Tickets are $10 for DSU students and $20 for the public.
Legend, a nine-time Grammy Award winner, was last in Dover on Friday, July 20 of last year for the inaugural Firefly festival that took place on the Dover International Speedway property.
Known as a multi-talented artist with signature vocals and songwriting style, Legend has earned legions of worldwide fans along with a string of Top 10 platinum-selling albums. His albums "Get Lifted" (2004), "Once Again" (2006) and "Evolver" (2008) each reached number one on the Billboard R&B/Hip- Hop charts. He has collaborated and written for numerous artists on best-selling recordings by Lauryn Hill, Alicia Keys, Jay-Z and Kanye West.
Legend sits on the boards of Teach for America, Stand for Children and the Harlem Village Academies. He serves on the Advisory Council for Turnaround and is an "IRC Voice" for the International Rescue Committee. He is also the national spokesperson for Management Leadership for Tomorrow, a nonprofit organization that assists the next generation of minority business leaders.
In 2007, he was named spokesman for GQ Magazine's "Gentlemen's Fund," an initiative to raise support and awareness for five cornerstones essential to men: opportunity, health, education, environment and justice.
At his Feb. 27 engagement, Legend will share his passion for education, self-awareness and social-consciousness, and perform musical selections that have earned him international acclaim.
To purchase tickets, visit www.dsuhornets.com or the DSU ticket office in Memorial Hall on campus.

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The Kansas House and Senate are set to return to session Jan. 14 at 2 p.m.
Legislators and their staff, along with a full complement of lobbyists, are preparing for a busy session.
The Kansas House and Senate are set to return to session Jan. 14 at 2 p.m.
Legislators and their staff, along with a full complement of lobbyists, are preparing for a busy session.
And at home, city and county officials, along with a number of constituency groups, are also anticipating what the session might bring.
Ed Elam, county administrator for Ford County, lists three potential concerns for citizens of the county.
"The county always ends up being the bad guy because we're the ones collecting the taxes, but we're mandated by state statute to provide certain services," Elam said in an interview Friday.
And at least three issues expected to be addressed in the upcoming legislative session could cause property taxes to go up.
First on Elam's list is a proposal that would reclassify certain equipment for accounting purposes, exempting fixtures from tax.
According to data complied by the Kansas Association of Counties, the fiscal impact of fixtures exemption would be significant in Ford County. The tax revenue lost by the county is estimated at $1,242,708. The total loss to all taxing entities in the county would be $5,196,523. To make up for the lost revenue, property taxes in the county would have to increase 13.68 percent.
"That would mean an increase of $200 to $300 for a $100,000 home in most Dodge City districts, in a worst case scenario," said Patti Israel, county appraiser.
"Legislation behind the exemption of fixtures is being pushed by the Koch brothers, with their connections to the Kansas Chamber of Commerce," Elam said.
According to state Rep. Brian Weber, the Kansas Association of Counties numbers are not based on the plan that's actually being proposed.
"The heart of the issue is that we need to clarify the definition of fixture," said Weber, a first-term Republican representing the 119th House District.
Weber also says that consideration of the issue will not take place until the Legislative Divison of Post Audit completes its report in April.
"I'm not interested in serious conversations about the issue until we have that report," Weber said.
Another concern for Elam is the loss of Local Ad Valorem Tax Reduction revenue.
The measure, which was a mechanism to help counties lower property taxes, dates back to the 1930s. The LAVTR formula was placed into state statute in 1965. The state capped LAVTR dollars in 1991 and quit appropriating the fund completely in 2003.
"The county has lost $500,000 per year since 2004," Elam said.
County officials across the state would like to have the funding restored.
"We're not like the federal government, we can't just keep printing more money," Elam said.
Another new proposal adds to the concern.
"It's basically a tax lid," Elam said.
The proposal calls for more transparency in dealing with increased valuation.
When property values go up, which they do nearly every year, taxing entities see increased revenue, even if the mill levy stays the same.
So public officials working on budgets can say "We didn't have to increase the mill levy this year," when in fact the total budget can be significantly higher than the previous year because each mill is worth more.
Proposed changes would require paperwork and public hearings to access increased revenue due to higher valuations.
But Elam considers that effectively a cap on those funds, making them inaccessible to counties.
"Transparency is fine — we have public hearings in order to adopt each budget but very few people participate in those — this plan would block us from accessing those funds completely," Elam said.
Unanswered questions
County officials across the state are also worried about potential changes to sentencing guidelines.
"They're looking at increasing the time that has to be spent in local jails before qualifying for state prisons," Elam said.
Many jails across the state are full and if qualifying time or sentences are lengthened it will put additional stress on the system, along with additional costs.
The Kansas Association of Counties keeps tabs on the progress of legislation through the session. They can alert public officials to potential issues as they come up before the legislature.
"The problem is unrelated last-minute amendments that get tacked on bills," Elam said.
"We just don't know what the state might do that would require more services or affect our revenue."


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The UFC usually researches the potential pay-per-view drawing power of its headliners.
But for Ronda Rousey vs. Liz Carmouche, the promotion appears to be taking a gamble.
"I don't know how the whole women's thing is going to go, how it's going to go over, or what it's going to do," UFC President Dana White told USA TODAY Sports. "She's the only title fight on that card, but that card is going to be stacked."
HISTORIC FIGHT: Ronda Rousey vs. Liz Carmouche
The bantamweight bout, which headlines UFC 157 on Feb. 23 in Anaheim, Calif., is not only the first women's bout in UFC history, but the first women's bout to headline a UFC pay-per-view. Several established stars, including ex-champs Dan Henderson and Lyoto Machida, play second fiddle on the event's PPV main card.
White has issued predictions on past PPV events citing his promotion's research. Prior to a grudge match between Quinton "Rampage" Jackson and Rashad Evans at UFC 114, he estimated 850,000 buys. A reported number came in higher at more than 1 million, though it was not independently verifiable.
After signing with the promotion this past month, Rousey, a former Strikeforce champ and Olympic bronze medalist in judo, accepted the UFC women's bantamweight title at this past week's UFC on FOX 5 pre-event press conference. Her presence created a stir among the media in attendance, with one reporter asking if she had a boyfriend.
"First time I've heard that question asked at a press conference," White said as the champ fielded questions.
Several minutes later, White was candid about his investment in Rousey, who's defeated nine consecutive opponents (amateur and pro) by first-round armbar. He said the 25-year-old fighter is the reason women will soon grace the octagon. She's signed to an eight-fight deal, which is double the number of many first-time male fighters.
Rousey has also attracted attention from media outlets previously unreachable, White said. Her comments to popular sports pundit Jim Rome about having as much sex as possible before fights, which she said was simply a less-edited answer from an interview with late-night talk-show host Conan O'Brien, generated countless columns online.
White said he'd seen both attractive and tough female fighters, but none with the all-around appeal of Rousey.
"Everybody is thinking it's because she's attractive," he said. "That's all great. You hear the way this girl talks – she is a Diaz brother inside. She's like, 'Well, after I beat [Carmouche's] ass, I'll take her out surfing.' She's the real deal. She's a fighter. She likes to finish people.
"Gina Carano's beautiful, too. But none of them have what this one has."
Carano is widely acknowledged to be the first breakout female MMA superstar. The former "American Gladiators" cast member won four high-profile bouts in the now-defunct EliteXC organization before she and Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos became the first women to headline a major Strikeforce event. After Santos badly battered Carano via first-round TKO, Carano transitioned to a film career and is not expected to return to fighting.
Initial betting lines cast Rousey (6-0 MMA, 0-0 UFC) as a 15-to-1 favorite against Carmouche (7-2 MMA, 0-0 UFC), who's also a grappling specialist. But in a potential fight with Santos (10-1), which shadowed her coronation at the press conference, the odds would be even.
In the event that Rousey loses, it would not only tarnish her value as a fighter, but appear to jeopardize the future of women's MMA in the UFC. White, however, said that isn't the case.
If Carmouche pulled off the upset, he said, "then she's the champ, just like the guys. It's the same thing. She's the champ, and who's next for her."
The deference given to Rousey during the UFC on FOX 5 press conference suggest that the promotion would prefer the belt stay around her waist. But White said he'd long ago given up trying to predict outcomes.
"This girl that she's fighting, she's got some nasty ground and pound," he said. "She's got heavy hands, and that's where the fight is going to go.
"The fight's going to end up on the ground, that girl will probably end up on top, and she drops bombs. Ronda pulls off arm-bars, but if you don't pull it off quick enough, you start getting hit with some bombs."
Steven Marrocco writes for MMAJunkie.com, a USA TODAY Sports Media property.


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Friday, April 13, 2012
Thin for Paris
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I am having those same "I am going to France in less than three months" thoughts of losing 10... But haven't lost a gram or ounce yet!ReplyDelete
Thanks for being human, Carol!!
It is nuts that we put ourselves through this torture.
Changing some habits is a good thing, but not feeling obliged to match or compete with another culture IMHO.
You have so much more will power than I do. I wouldn't even be able to make it out of the store before eating whatever delectable pastries I've purchased.ReplyDeleteReplies
Practice makes it easier indeed if you're going in and out of pastry shops regularly.Delete
Though it's not like you've seen one church you've seen them all kind of thing.
Not in Paris anyway
Hmmm... To think I have been making the habit of bringing something outrageously calorific to the computer when I read PB. It's going to take a whole lot of new habit strength to reform!ReplyDelete
You bet I try to get thin before I go. I lost 20lbs in 10 weeks. I gained 3 back before my flight! I had a day in Paris when all I ate was sweets. I had no real food all day.ReplyDeleteReplies
You are indeed a very Clever Pup!Delete
You did what we'd all like to do.
Once I lost weight very fast by following Atkins.ReplyDelete
For sweets - I could have a root beer with whipped cream (my doctor told me that one).
Also, sugar free pudding and jello with whipped cream. You can only use Splenda sweetener.
You can have a lot of things but no sugar, bread,cereal, pasta, rice, fruit, no white flour . . it's been
a very long time but it was easier than I thought.
My friend and myself went to a fast food hamburger place and she said,
"why don't you try eating that cheeseburger without the bun"?
I said, I can't but then I put the lettuce on both sides instead of the bun and it was great.
I followed it for months until my daughter, son in-law and grandchildren moved in while they built their new home. Daughter was doing the cooking and I thought.
I'll go off until they move but once they moved I was never able to get back on
that diet again.
I kept some of those extra small clothes . . . maybe someday I will get motivated again.
Good luck to you!
I like the French way in Bringing up Bebe/Power of Habit, where you change your approach to food and eating.Delete
You learn to WAIT and save something for another day.
That's the challenge for me.
It's snacktime/gouter
Time for my one-a-day madeleine + tea
and trial by fire : )
I find that no matter what my weight when I start out, I lose on the trip. I used to walk so much more than I did at home, now I feel lucky that I live in a big city where I walk everywhere and keep my weight low anyway :)ReplyDelete
Chocolate burns off faster than cheese, by the way lol.
Carol, you've made me smile yet again with this post. I don't think that I've ever really dieted before a trip abroad. Usually the pre-departure week is full of tying up lots of loose ends at the workplace, and elsewhere, and that usually gets my metabolism into a new gear.ReplyDelete
Also, while traveling, I do walk a lot, and often don't think so much about snacking as I might at home. Yes, I do admire those baked treats on display, but know I don't really need to sample them all!
Once upon a time I lived within a four minute walk from a wonderful Italian bakery. Just knowing that it was there sort of helped me to keep my sampling under control.
Really enjoy the book bringing up bebe too! Having said that, Czech children snack once in the afternoon too but if anybody is hungry or needs something...it is never forbiden and we simply eat when hungry... so we eat a little and wait...and see if needed more...it is a very natural thing to do once brought up that way i guess....I don't like overeating and feeling too stuffed ...naturaly. Diets don't work, eating of the menu in Europe is much better than ordering dressing on the side...(((: so have fun with it! I WILL TRY you madeleine batter tomorrow, can't wait! Enjoy Paris! hugs ZReplyDeleteReplies
Oh how interesting Zanetastyle!Delete
*A BIG secret to making the madeleines so they get that precsiou 'hump'/bump is to pour the batter into the tray (3/4 fullish only)
And then let them REST ONE HOUR+ in the fridge!!
I will add it to the madeleine post a tout a suite :)
So happy to find your blog! I eat what I want and walk every where...except the haul to the brocantes! I don't know if it is that the food is fresh here and has little to no preservatives or that the walking but I don't have an issue with like I did in the US.ReplyDelete
Paris is not the place to worry about it. I say enjoy and have a great time!!
I think I am going to have to buy that book just to learn how to loose some weight. :) Seems like the more you think about losing weight the harder it is. :)ReplyDeleteReplies
But it's about taking yr mind of losing weight and distracting it with more interesting subjects like habit-changing or how the French eat.Delete
It's takes the onus/negative edge away and engages your mind (over matter) in a positive way.
Well that's how I see it. :)
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Best way to lose weight? Try that other French favourite....cycling...2 hours a day. You'll lose all you want to and best of all, you can eat anything you want...whenever you want. Plus it is still the best way to get around Paris and see everything from close up. It works for me. I've been the same weight since I was 18...40 years ago!ReplyDeleteReplies
Of course they SNACK Diane.Delete
That's what 4:30 pm is for!
And all the delightful cakes and cookies.
Great post. I never gain weight in Paris and eat bread, pastries, frites, and plenty of wine. Walking everywhere helps. I'm sure we were covering 10 miles a day in Paris.ReplyDelete
I LOVE how the French eat and with French friends, I get to see it in real action. All the typical stuff, smaller portions, no deprivation, walking, and no snacking.
I am so happy you loved the calissons!! I promise you won't put on weight from them .....only melon,orange, almonds and a bit of sugar but no flour or wheat ( those are the real culprits!)ReplyDeleteReplies
Oh please tell me the same thing about yr nougats (that I wolfed down the next day)Delete
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My daughter just finished reading Bringing up Bebe, and loved it. It seems such a sensible way to eat, and love that there is so much walking...you'll be just fine!ReplyDelete
Some habits die hard, mon amie.ReplyDelete
Surely you don't need to lose any weight at all, Carol? Those madeleines look completely delish - that kind of thing is my downfall. Think I need to get hold of that book too, I like the concept of shifting the focus of your mind as you described it.ReplyDeleteReplies
The grosse pomme would like to be a haricot vert, ahemDelete
I'm forever failing on self-restraint. I feel your pain!ReplyDeleteReplies
Self-restraint is the lesson baking force feeds us.Delete
oh my
And you make chocolate chip cookies!


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The Cortez Journal encourages people to submit announcements about upcoming events for the Community Calendar. Send announcements to firstname.lastname@example.com. Items submitted at least two weeks in advance will have a better chance of getting published; items submitted several days before the event might not get published. For more information, call the Journal at 565-8527.
Dolores Ski and Sport Swap
The 12th annual Dolores Ski and Sport Swap will be held Saturday, Nov. 10 at the Dolores Community Center, 400 Riverside, from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. For more information, call 749-2393.
The Joy of Oil Painting with Barbara McDonald
Explore the Joy of Oil Painting a la Bob Ross with Barbara McDonald at the Cortez Cultural Center, 25 N. Market St., on Saturday, Nov. 10 from 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Call Barbara for details at 901-0839.
Domestic & Sexual Violence Community Education Series
Renew will begin the Fall/Winter Domestic and Sexual Violence Community Education Series on Monday, Nov. 12. All seminars will be held Monday and Wednesday evenings from 5:30 to 8 p.m. at the Four Corners Child Advocacy Center, 140 N. Linden, and will run through Wednesday, Dec. 19. All meetings are brown bag dinner; drinks and light snacks are provided. If you are interested in attending this free six-week training, call Diane at 565-4886 to register or email your name and contact information to Cheryl at email@example.com.
MECCs November Family Night
Montelores Early Childhood Council presents Healthy Kids Are Ready Kids! on Thursday, Nov. 15 from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. at the Cortez Church of Christ Annex Building, 631 E. Montezuma Ave. (corner of Adams and Montezuma). Learn tips for making family health a fun and rewarding experience. The night will include the preparation of a healthy dinner and lots of take away gifts promoting healthy family lifestyles. Dont miss this fun and informative evening. Call Trish Peters at 565-8389 or 560-1360 by Monday, Nov. 12 to reserve your spot and leave a message with the number of people you will be bringing so well have food and gifts for all!
Annual Health Fair & Turkey Trot
The Sleeping Ute Diabetes Prevention Program will hold their Annual Health Fair & Turkey Trot from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Tuesday, Nov. 13 at the Ute Mountain Casino Bingo Hall. There will be educational booths and door prizes. Everyone is welcome, and lunch will be provided. For more information, call 564-5391.
Free oral health screenings for children
Cavity Free at Three is a statewide program aimed at preventing oral disease in young children. Montelores Early Childhood Council is partnering with local physicians to join our effort and offer free oral health screenings for children ages 6 months to 3 years old, on Tuesday, Nov. 13, from 11 a.m. until noon. The event will be held at the Southwest Memorial Hospital Annex Building Community Room at 20 S. Market Street. There is no charge for the screening, which will include fluoride varnish, but you must make a reservation for your child to attend. Call Trish Peters at 565-8389 or 560-1360 to schedule an appointment for your child. Space is limited, so call today! Leave a message with your childs name, birth date, and a number where you can be reached to confirm.
SWMH Auxiliary Holiday Bazaar and Bake Sale
The Southwest Memorial Hospital Auxiliary will hold their Annual Holiday Bazaar and Bake Sale on Friday, Nov. 16 from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. in the waiting area near the gift shop. There will be lots of goodies and some great deals on early holiday shopping. For more information, call Linda Hooker at 565-2616 or Thelma Yoder at 562-4439.
Book reading for local authors Olsen, Feela
On Friday, Nov. 16 at 7 p.m. there will be a book reading with local writers Erica Olsen and David Feela at Sideshow in Dolores, 411 Central. Olsen will read selections from her new short story fiction collection Recapture, and Feela from his recent essay collection How Delicate These Arches (Colorado Book Awards Finalist) and The Home Atlas, a book of poetry. Both Olsen and Feela live in and write about the Four Corners region: its geography, artifacts, inhabitants and ways of life. Signed copies of their books will be for sale at this free event. For more details, call 739-4646.
Local writer will have book signing, interactive lecture
Chase mermaids with local writer Joe Keleher, author of Beul Nam Beinn: A Merworld Fantasy, at his interactive lecture and book signing at 5 p.m. on Friday, Nov. 16 at the Cortez Cultural Center, 25 N. Market S. There is a $5 suggested donation. For more information, call the Center at 565-1151.
Methodist Church Holiday Bazaar
Candy and pies and decorations oh, my! Plan to do your early Christmas shopping from 9 to 1 p.m. on Saturday, Nov. 17 in Hampton Hall at the First United Methodist Church at 515 N. Park. Ornaments and other decorations, needlecraft, baked goodies and candy, toys and other items will be offered at reasonable prices. A complete lunch that includes a choice of homemade chicken and dumplings or chili, cornbread and pie, and a drink. Pie and beverages will also be available all morning for a donation. For more information, call Karen Bohn at 565-9273 and leave a message if there is no answer (phone will ring 10 times).
An evening with Robby Overfield and trio The Breaks
Join Durango musician, Robby Overfield and his trio, The Breaks at 8 p.m. on Saturday, Nov. 17 at the Millwood Junction restaurant, corner of Hwy. 160 and Main St. in Mancos. Tickets are $12 and are available now at Southwest Sound in Durango, the Millwood Junction Restaurant in Mancos and Rocky Mountain One Stop in Cortez. Robby Overfield blends the art of storytelling and genuine lyrics with a powerful voice to complement an encapsulating listening experience. Stretching his soulful Detroit, Michigan roots, Robby Overfield and his trio have some of the best soul jams youve ever heard. For more info, check out www.robbyoverfield.com or his facebook page, or contact Tami Graham at 759-9716.
SWMH Foundation hosts Fall Dinner Dance benefit
A Fall Dinner Dance benefit for the Southwest Memorial Hospital Foundation will be held on Saturday, Nov. 17 at 6 p.m. A delicious dinner will be served at The Farm Bistro, and will be followed by dancing at Come Dance Tonight, right next door. Southwest Health System CEO Kent Helwig will give a brief presentation about current activities and future plans for the hospital. Tickets are $75 and space is limited. Call Foundation Director Susan Thomas at 564-2156 for tickets and more information.
Guest Pastor Russell will speak at Thanksgiving conference
Mountain View Baptist Church will hold a Thanksgiving conference with speaker Dr. Rodger Russell. Dr. Russell will preach Sunday, Nov. 18 at 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Mountain View Baptist Church is located on the Corner of Hwy. 184 and CR 30.5 in Dolores. Dr. Russell has served a total of 30 years as pastor of four churches in Utah and New Mexico, and has a Masters degree from Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas and a Doctorate from Golden Gate Baptist Theological Seminary in Mill Valley, Calif. For more information, call Pastor Scott Hartle at 739-4496.
Summit Lake church to host Community Thanksgiving Dinner
The Summit Lake Community Church will host a community Thanksgiving dinner again this year, to be held at 5:30 p.m. Sunday evening, Nov. 18. The church is located at 36501 Hwy. 184, just across from Summit Lake. The church will furnish the turkey and all the trimmings and drinks, and ask that the members of the community bring a side dish or dessert. This has been an annual event for several years and gives the community a chance to get together and get acquainted with new folks in the area. Everyone is welcome so if you have company, bring them too. For more information, call the church at 882-4144.
Documentary film I Would Be Called John screens free at church
The film, I Would Be Called John will be shown free of charge on Monday evening, Nov. 19 at 6:30 p.m. at St. Margaret Mary Catholic Church Parish Hall, at Montezuma and Market streets. It is the story of Cardinal Roncalli, becoming Pope John XXIII, and his involvement in Vatican II. This is a well-done and informative documentary film of this incredible and historical event in the church and the world. Everyone is welcome. For more information, call Judy Sturdevant at 560-2007.
Tables available for upcoming Elks Christmas Bazaar
The Cortez Elks Lodge, 2100 N. Dolores Rd., is offering table rentals for their upcoming 17th Annual Christmas Bazaar, to be held on Sunday, Dec. 9. Tables are now available for rent at $25 each; we will provide the table. The deadline to reserve a table is Nov. 20. The Bazaar begins at 10 a.m. and goes until 5 p.m. Entertainment will be at 2 p.m. with the arrival of Santa at 3 p.m. He will visit with all the children who attend. There will be door prizes at least every hour, and food will be available for purchase. For more information call Sally at 739-0616.
Annual Turkey Trot Fun Run/Walk
For Pets Sake Humane Society will hold its Ninth Annual Cortez Turkey Trot on Thanksgiving Day. Registration starts at 9 a.m. Thursday, Nov. 22 at the Parque de Vida Pavilion near the Cortez Recreation Center, 425 Roger Smith Avenue. The 1 mile fun run/walk starts at 10 a.m., regardless of the weather. This is probably For Pets Sakes most enjoyable event of the year! The entry fee is $20 and includes a cool serene green commemorative T-shirt. Costumes for all are encouraged! Prizes will be awarded for fastest people and pets, best and best-coordinated costumes, best pet trick, most unusual pet to cross the finish line, and lots of other categories. All proceeds benefit For Pets Sake Humane Society and their work for the dogs and cats of Montezuma and Dolores counties. For more information call 565-PETS (565-7387).
28th Annual Holiday Craft Fair
Come by the Cortez Cultural Centers annual Holiday Craft Fair from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, Nov. 24, at the Montezuma County Annex, 107 N. Chestnut St., Cortez. Enjoy handmade items, franchise products, and door prizes while supporting the Cortez Cultural Center. For more information, call the Center at 565-1151.
Sights and Sounds of Christmas theme of Parade of Lights
The 23rd Annual Four Corners Board of Realtors Parade of Lights will be held Saturday, Dec. 1 at 6 p.m. The theme for this years Parade of Lights is Sights and Sounds of Christmas. This years Grand Marshal for the Parade is the Slavens family, in recognition of their longtime support and involvement in our community. There is no fee to enter a float in the parade, but an entry form must be submitted by Thursday, Nov. 29 to Terry McCabe at Century 21 West Slope Realty. Cash prizes are awarded for the best float in each of 3 categories. The Parade of Lights is held each year on the first Saturday in December, with all prizes supplied by the Four Corners Board of Realtors as their gift back to the community. For more information, call Terry McCabe at 799-4459.
Annual Dolores Community Center Christmas Bazaar
The Annual Dolores Community Center Christmas Bazaar will be held this year on Saturday, Dec. 1 at the Dolores Community Center, 400 Riverside Ave. from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. The bazaar already has 40 vendors signed up to display various crafts such as Christmas wreaths, scarves, candles, homemade breads, pies and pumpkin rolls. There will also be handmade aprons, ornaments, quilts, afghans, leather items, toys, artwork and jewelry of all kinds. Come and do your special Christmas shopping. Refreshments are being provided by the Girl Scouts and all proceeds will go to the Dolores Community Center. Contact Ruby Gonzales for more information at 882-7717.
Catholic Daughters Christmas Bazaar
The Catholic Daughters Christmas Bazaar will be held on Saturday, Dec. 1 from 8 a.m. to 3 p.m., and Sunday, Dec. 2 from 11:30 a.m. to 3 p.m. at St. Margaret Mary Catholic Church Hall, 28 E. Montezuma Ave., Cortez. Breakfast burritos will be served on Saturday from 8 to 11 a.m. and Navajo tacos will be served from noon to 3 p.m. The Junior Catholic Daughters will serve soup for lunch on Sunday from 11:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. Craft items, gift baskets, baked goods, stocking stuffers, wreaths, Christmas items, and homemade gifts are some of the items that will be available for purchase. All proceeds benefit our organization, which in turn supports local, national and global charities. For more information, call Elva at 565-8741 or Lucy at 564-1468.
Series of Christian conversations
How You Can Be Part of a Christian Community With Integrity and Not Believe All Those Things You Thought You Had to Believe. On Tuesday, Dec. 3, this series of conversations will continue at St. Barnabas Episcopal Church, 110 W. North Street (corner of North and Elm). The topic for the evening is What/who is God for You? Everyone is welcomed. These gatherings are for folks who cant reconcile what they believe the church requires with their life experience; who dont want to check their minds at a church door; or who just dont want to live in a world they think the Christian church espouses but who might value being part of a community of faith. Questions are required. No answers are promised. Call 565-7865 for information.


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Tuesday, October 06, 2009
Ripples thanks to Shane
A term I keep hearing in defense of modern primitive cartoons is that old or well drawn, well thought out cartoons are just "old-school" which I imagine is what we used to call "square." So skill is square according to folks who wish they could draw better, can't (or can but don't want to admit it), but instead have chosen to just jump on the flatwagon.
Here's what Shane said about my last post about George Clark:
"Hi John, Clark was fantastic, and I agree that he was probably and influence on Owen. I have a bunch of George Clark on Cartoon Retro- here are some better scans to use for your article:"
Ed Benedict, Kimball and Oreb could do very graphic, angular designs but they were still solid forms drawn with perspective. Shapes had a top, front, sides, and bottom. That Snooper and Blabber drawing posted a few days ago blew my mind- such a sophisticated arrangement of cool shapes- angular and graphic but all fitting around solid forms. It's my favorite cartoon style, and I can't even imagine being able to draw something so complex. Clearly if you try to draw that style without understanding solid drawing and perspective you end up with this current style - characters run over by a steamroller. -Shane.http://cartoonretro.blogspot.com/
Here's some "new-school" cartoon art that I think has all the attributes I like about "old-school" cartoon art.
Kristen may draw in a slightly angular style, but it's based on a keen observational capacity and really strong drawing skills. I can guess some of her influences, but her style is unique, it's not just the modern simplistic flat TV style that so many copy.
It's also funny which along with good drawing must be considered "old-school" since I don't see any funny looking cartoons anywhere in the mass media - not on TV, comic strips, comic books or even animated movies. The number one ingredient of what a cartoon is is non-existent today except for on a handful of blogs created by the last living actual cartoonists. Are cartoons going to be considered a 20th century anomaly soon, since they have disappeared from the mainstream?
Shane is much like me. He draws in an influential modern style - but it's derived by a love, understanding and appreciation of a huge variety of well drawn "old-school" styles from the 1920s to the 1950s. We both appreciate good drawing whether it's new school or old-school and can tell the difference between skilled art and poseurs.
Join Shane's special site to see lots of rare great old-school cartoon art and illustrations!
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39 comments:
- O gato said...
The first image John, is this a book that can be bought? The girl and style she's drawn in is absolutely gorgeous! I love the way her eyes are drawn! They're cute and seductive at the same time. :) As for these flat angular styles... to me they feel like a slap in the face to the artists who actually DREW and Painted their characters and put care into their animations. They make me want to bang my head against a wall and say "WHY?". I saw an episode of your show Ren and Stimpy on youtube and the mouth and body movement was astounding! You really don't see that sort of thing in cartoons animated by flash today which is really sad.
- cartoonretro said...
Thanks, John.
I'll be 40 next week, that might make me officially "old school"
- O gato said...
Ack I just saw the link as where to buy the book. I feel really dumb now.
- Fata Morgana said...
Are cartoons going to be considered a 20th century anomaly soon, since they have disappeared from the mainstream?
No. I think this elucidates precisely why the internet will take over what used to be the purview of television and perhaps even film. The reason that television, newsprint, CDs, etc. seem to be dying from the perspective of the old hands who run those sorts of things, is that people are going to the internet (like your blog, for example) and finding things that are so much better than what is 'popular', and are thus loosing interest in the popular.
Some fool wrote a book about the "culture of the amateur" and how the internet is ruining culture by having a bunch of "untrained" people creating things. What he failed to understand is that "untrained" or "unapproved" does not equate to "unskilled."
Anyhoo, interesting blog post as always.
- cartoonretro said...
I should point out that I am as guilty as everyone else of doing the flat steamroller style (probably even have to take some blame for it's current popularity) but I always feel shame when I do.
I do it for 2 reasons:
1. when I run into limitations in my drawing ability. It's a quick and easy cheat.
2. It sells. And the people who are going to be animating the design in Flash generally aren't the best draftsmen and wouldn't know what to do with a solid design. They want to be able to break the model up into separate flat parts so they don't have to do any new drawings.
The flat style works great for UPA style designs, with characters that are 2 heads tall and all nose, but when you superimpose it onto realistic proportions it just doesn't work unless you have superhuman ability, like Jamie Hewlett, Mignola and Robert Valley.
Good read as always. You've inspired me as of late to try some different techniques in designing characters and playing more with proportion.
One of your journals mentioned the bland repetitiveness of Disney cartoons, especially when designing boys. I decide to do some doodles and concepts of young boys and came up with some interesting results. Not happy with all of them. But I'm learning!
Anyways, your journals are always a joy to read.
I do have one question though. You mentioned that today's cartoons have a flat steamrolled look, but then you go to mention that you like the style see in George of The Jungle. To me it has as much flatness as TDI or that surfing show (whatever it's called). The image of the cat and mouse have more life and depth to me than George does.
I'm just curios... What are the good aspects of George and the other characters? I just want to know so I can learn how to judge my own designs better.
- Gad said...
"There is no school like old school"
it's not just animation that's gone down the drain, plain old cinema and popular music , and classic art, are in the same deep shit. But there is always a time when some people get sick of the new inventive stuff and go retro.
I remember five years ago looking for publications of Alex Raymond's "rip kirby" and Lee Falk's "The Phantom". But there where no such things in existence.
And suddenly there are publications of all the classic comics strips going out right now.
You guys, Shane and John, you keep it all alive. I check your blogs every day for wonderful inspiration.
And I really believe that the in a decade or so we will start to see new good original stuff popping out again
- Mellanumi said...
I've never really been impressed by Shane. He has a certain finesse to his work; but I think he wanders dangerously close to all the crappy animation out there today. If I were in his position, I wouldn't mind working in particular styles, but I'd be careful to find my own voice above everyone else's. One thing that bothers me is how people misapply labels. Quite often, people will call something "Expressionistic" or "Gothic" or "Brutalist" without really understanding the characteristics of each aesthetic. I don't find Shane's art to be retro at all. I think he has retro aspirations. I think the purpose of art is to be progressive, truthful, functional, insightful and unique. But more often than not, people are trying to be imitative. It's the necreptitude that is infecting all of the arts.
- Wilson said...
John you're being way too cynical here. You're just mentioning TV shows. There are plently of artists and animators who draw in either modern, or in their own styles.
I mean you're attacking TV and that's an easy target, but you know what? ALL artists hate mainstream media, not just in animation, art of all forms. You act like you're the only one and you're style is above all others but it's just specific. I mean you emulate from what's considered the golden age in animation, but really, animation is just life. All you need are your eyes to observe how life around you moves. When people draw cartoons their poking fun at life, or expressing how they see it. So I dont see the need to knock other's styles. Art is all about the infinite amount of ways to portray things. You're talking specifically about TV but just go to an animation festival to see the many different styles there are. Why put them down? What artist spends their career talking about how much everyone is terrible compared to them? That's a lame attitude to have in an already small community.
- :: smo :: said...
i wouldn't say "old school" is the same as calling something "square." old school generally has a vibe of respect about it but acknowledges that it's the old way of doing things [or style of music or thing etc]. square is kind of hokey and lame and old fashioned in a conservative way.
old school foundations totally have a place in newer concepts. people confuse budget with stylization a bit too much.
- Zoran Taylor said...
@Fata: I think the opposite is true.
@CJ: Where did John say he liked it?
- Clark Nova said...
any word on the ultimate ren & stimpy box set? it's been around 4 years since it was first announced. has it been completely shelved?
- C said...
If I were prime minister, I'd ban all 'tude. Unless you're making fun of it. But I'd limit that.
I don't really get downing the parent's generation. I liked stuff from my parents' era and before more than some stuff now. Most notably the music.
- Meenx said...
All of the female characters from "Stoked" have the same shaped face and eyes. If they weren't colored differently, I could not tell them apart!
- cartoonretro said...
Mellanumi: I pretty much agree with you. The main purpose of my art is to be the candy that lures people to Cartoon Retro so they are exposed to real "retro" artists- guys like George Clark, Russell Patterson, Earl Oliver Hurst, and hundreds of other incredible artists that most people today don't know about.
I would love to be progressive, truthful, functional, insightful and unique but for now I'll have to settle for just giving people something visually pleasant to rest their eyes on for a few seconds.
- ThomasHjorthaab said...
Hey John, I know It's not long ago you took a look on my blog last time:)
But I did some more classic drawings of a character I would love your take on... It's not all that different, but I think I managed to put in some more construction...
Thanks for your time!
ps. I'm seriously looking forward to your book man!
- Chris S. said...
Big fan of Shane's work!
Hey John, If you get a chance to swing by my blog sometime ... I started on the Preston Blair assignments (lesson 1). I would like to make it into your Cartoon College one day. Thanks!
His opinions are listed underneath the image. He could've been talking about something else but every other reference he makes that refers to a particular image in this entry is directly underneath it as seen in the rest of his journal.
- Ben Fried said...
I see cartoons above all as group styles for drawing. A 'superstyle', maybe. The superstyle calls for use of 3D shapes. If that principal is ignored, then that doesn't necessarily make it BAD, but it does mean it shouldn't be called a cartoon.
The images on a lot of the flash shit are more like moving 2D design. Now, most of it sucks because 2D design should be more about use of color and doing things that can only be done without a third dimension. TDI, and the like just simply DON'T go beyond art with a third dimension. They just try to look like art with a third dimension, but ignore the fact that 3D art requires use of 3D shapes so it looks not just flat but also boring. It's just plain shitty art.
Having an understanding of how to draw in 3D can and will greatly help your understanding of the second dimension, however. So really it's pointless to not learn it. And it's not like anyone is incapable of learning it. They're either unwilling or don't even know that they should learn it.
Artists really should try to explore as many forms of art as they can, because every single one has parts about it that can help you understand the other. Style is a very useful tool in art, but it's certainly NOT to be used as a crutch. More importantly, people should be taking existing styles and doing things to it that haven't been done before. It's what moves art forward.
The biggest problem for cartoonists today... People don't look at it as art. They look at it as a way of distracting children. A lot of people don't realize how much of the world they live in made of art. Textbooks? Someone had to make the pages. Chairs? Someone had to come up with the design for that chair. People need to understand that art can have function. It doesn't need to always be a pretentious painting meant to be put into a gallery.
I really want the world to understand the definition of cartoons. Here's what I think it should be:
Art with 3-dimensional shapes, a focus on exaggeration, and meant to be humorous.
Just because it moves doesn't mean it's a cartoon. And just because it's funny doesn't mean it's a cartoon.
- Conny Nordlund (Loathsome) said...
I hope this flat thing dies soon.
And I hope people are smart enough to keep away from it.
- AShortt said...
Man The Ripples was beautifully done.
- Freckled Derelict said...
Long Live cartoonretro!!
I can't say enough praise for that site and Shane.
And Kristen as always is amazing.
Thanks for getting the word out John!
PS - If you're interested I finnished posting the full Yogi Bear Comic book"Yummy Tummy Stories" here - http://plentyo.blogspot.com/
- chrisallison said...
- Matt Hawkins said...
I'm a big fan of Kristen! She's an amazing artist and super nice person to boot. I'm proud to say I own a piece of her original artwork. I've been very inspired by this blog and have been going back and drawing some of this great art you post. I too feel like over time I've gotten lazy and rely on tricks. Flat and angular is what is what sells, I wish I had a dollar for every time I've had a "Creative " director say "Make it cool like (insert name of Cartoon Network show here). I do a lot of dimensional papertoy design and I'm always trying to work more life and action in my "geometric" work ain't always successful but I find this blog super inspirational! Thanks for all the work that goes into this site John!
- Mars Cabrera said...
Check stoked>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngDr8GfKFJs&feature=related
- Niki said...
It sucks being a teenager, having been born in such a crazy world. I've decided that I'll start watching more older films and imitating the people in them.
If they really are calling it old school then most folks I know should love it. "Old school" is a rap term and nobody can hate on the old school. It's like blasphemy.
- David Germain said...
To me, Kirsten's art reminds me of Bill Elder's work. I don't know if he's one of her influences, but that's what I see anyway. She does do some great stuff.
I certainly don't try to draw in that flat style. But yeah I definitely have to work on my skills. Just tonight I learned that it's hard to draw a human face in profile without making it look flat. I guess that's why more artists favour the 3/4 turn.
Oh well. I just gotta keep practising I guess.
- Trey Brown said...
John, I love your blog and I continue to learn with every post you make. I'm so glad Kristen's art is in this entry. I feel that she more than most has the best grasp of what the future of cartooning should be. Her art combines principles of drawing both fluidly and functionally while maintaining the overall appeal and attraction of her characters. My blog is new and i'm nowhere near as skilled as either of you but I've been trying to apply principles of her art as well as yours recently. If you have a free moment aside from other more deserving blogs please check out mine at:
- Jeff Read said...
"Old-school" comes from the hip-hop community, and like many terms from that community it's multi-shaded in meaning, depending on context. Nowadays it's less frequently used to mean "antiquated", and more frequently used to convey a certain affection and admiration for the way things used to be done.
- Aaron Clark said...
Every time I see that crap I just want to start my own studio, and produce a fantastic show. However I think TV will die for cartoons before that happens...
Well I'll just have to stick with the internet then, and hope to see an improvement.
- Mars Cabrera said...
** I think TV will die for cartoons before that happens...***
Worst excuse ever. A lot of tv shows got off the ground because, the people behind them just went ahead and did it no matter what the cost, no matter what the circumstances were.. I'm in Canada , we're still making 'em! Call it anything you like but, I'm having a good time and there's always room for improvement, that's a given. You know, it's always easy just to sit down and criticize! If you have a problem with flat looking shows. What's stopping you making YOUR OWN show? your style, Ripples style, whatever, you call the shots? Post it and we'll take a look at them.
The point is, anything is possible! Any style can be on TV, Just get out there and do it!
- Whit said...
After the U.S. abandoned jazz music all the jazz players had to live and work in Europe to survive. It is not that simple for animators now in this severe global recession.
- Mellanumi said...
CartoonRetro -- you're right; I can accept that. I never said your work doesn't put a smile on my face. It does.
- The Artist Aficionado said...
I think Shane uses his own contemporary style and mixes it in with earlier influences of modern sophisticated themes.
I have to agree though I haven't seen one decent animated product in years. I have avoided most of the networks to find good animation these days. I try my best to resurrect the likeness of true artists who are not visible in today's society. Sadly.
- thomas said...
John - I watched some of Chris Reccardi"s "Meddlin Meadows". Its a better example of UPA style than most of the current crop of cartoons that you've talked about.
I'm just bringing this up because it included one element, that most cartoons in this style don't, and that's contradiction.
Although the cartoon was 2D, the characters still moved in depth; the original UPA was very spatial.
I think you've played with this contradiction, but more contradicting 3D with 2D.
What do you think?
- Dan szilagyi said...
haha i love the fact that all the shitty cartoons you had as examples are Canadian "made and animated" except for the family guy side show cartoon.
i agree though....to think that shows like " kid VS cat" is a highlight on TV today makes me just cry and never want to work at studio B
- Ben said...
I love Shane Glines, its because of him that i started drawing...i love him, also cartoon retro :)
- Taelor said...
Anime ruined cartoons for the rest of the world.


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Gonzalo wrote:Here it΄s my virtual one.
Gonzalo wrote:... I would like to know what is better to read at first...
... which is the best theoretical introduction to Virgil and specially to Latin poetry (meters, scansion, etc.
MiguelM wrote:Speaking of Reading Vergil, does anyone happen to know an edition using the appex or macron for long vowel marking? I'm not worried about syllable length for meter, just naturally long vowels marked. I've looked around for quite a while and can't seem to find anything.
Thanks much!
PS: Gonzalo, Google is hating your library and isn't letting me search it. From what I've seen in regular browsing, though, wow! Congrats!
thesaurus wrote:Not to change the subject, but does anyone have a decent way of preparing themselves to read the Comedia?
It's funny that I much prefer reading the Latin works of Dante, Boccaccio, and Petrarca, because I have a much easier time doing so.
thesaurus wrote:May I ask where you are gleaning all this advice from Pound? I can't say I'm a fan of avant-garde poetry, but I love reading literary criticism from such minds.
cantator wrote:thesaurus wrote:May I ask where you are gleaning all this advice from Pound? I can't say I'm a fan of avant-garde poetry, but I love reading literary criticism from such minds.
I wouldn't call Pound an avant-garde poet, he's been dead too long.
His literary canon is well-represented in these books:
Literary Essays - Includes the notable essays on Elizabethan translations from Latin and on early translators of Homer (French, Latin, and English).
ABC Of Reading - The first book I ever read by EP. I felt so ignorant after reading it that I embarked on a desultory course of self-study that's involved me for the past 35+ years. Yes, I'm a slow learner.
Guide To Kulchur - Not so well-organized as the volume of literary essays but still good.
You might also like to check out Basil Bunting's critical writings:
Basil Bunting On Poetry
Of course Longinus and Horace are must-reads if you're looking for literary criticism from the ancient world.
And if you'd like a bit of prescience from EP on another topic entirely :
ABC Of Economics - A rather disjointed look at money, but quite valuable as a spur to consideration. Alas, it's also almost impossible to find now.
As an aside: I started studying Latin seriously as the result of a double impact. At about the same time I read Pound I also heard Carl Orff's Carmina Burana. I just had to find what all that was about.
"Ego sum abbas Cucaniensis..." indeed.
Gonzalo wrote:Virgil, Dante, and now here we go with Ezra Pound.
annis wrote:I have not read Pound's poetry much, but his literary criticism is sometimes baffling. The things he says about Chinese make Sinologists cry, and some of his comments about Greek authors make me wonder how well he knew Greek.
Gonzalo wrote:Virgil, Dante, and now here we go with Ezra Pound. Some links which I have to share with you:
MiguelM wrote:Oh, do forgive my lack of specification: I meant of the Eclogues. I have the pleasure of owning the Oerberg edition of the First and Fourth Cantos, and it's been of immense value -- not only for the traditional Oerberg notation, but mostly because of the macrons. I did not know he had the same for the Eclogues!
Lucus Eques wrote:And yes, on Dante, an annotated Commedia with Italian notes is what you want — full immersion, baby, and just as good as what the modern Florentines get. I fear I have no such book in mind, but doubtless a trip to an Italian bookstore online could yield the desired result.
thesaurus wrote:I came across this while hoping to figure out a little Dante via Italiano: http://books.google.com/books?id=isIRAA ... 22#PPA3,M1
I don't know if it's any good, but it has lots of commentary and the entire Commedia.


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As a young boy growing up here in the Midwest I was taught the joy of earning my own spending money.
As a young boy growing up here in the Midwest I was taught the joy of earning my own spending money. I guess it was in my nature to want things so I spent my money as fast as I made it, sometimes even faster. It has taken me a while to learn money lessons well, about thirty years in fact!
I have never been afraid of hard work and I have learned to appreciate moments of relaxation. But my biggest mistake back then was using credit for things I wanted. I paid too much for my many "wants." It has taken a complete renewing of my mind to get the "I want" out of me; that renewal is still a work in progress.
In my earlier life, money "Burnt a hole in my pocket" as the old timers would say. I was able to appreciate the things I spent my own money on and not tear them up. I worked for my Dad most of the time; but when I got mad at him I would get a job somewhere else in Chillicothe. I was the "prodigal son" many times, sorry to say.
I wanted so much to have the good life away from Mom and Dad with my own little family. That good life began right after graduating from good old CHS. I married Caroline (one of my classmates) in July of 1969. We produced a wonderful boy in July of 1971 and then a beautiful girl in August of 1973. Caroline and I worked hard at many jobs back then but we never seemed to get ahead; the harder we worked, the be-hinder we got!
Don't get me wrong. The bills were paid and the kids were fed. Basically, we had the right priorities. However, we were held back financially by still pursuing some habits we picked up as teenagers: smoking, drinking, and partying. Fortunately, we both had the same hopes and aspirations; because of our upbringing we stayed together through thick and thin.
Then something special happened to me one night behind the Highview Church. That night I began for the first time to listen and obey the guidance the Lord provides us all. It has taken a while for this old boy to make a total change, but it is happening. My vision for life has become clearer and the right decisions have become easier.
While my spiritual life has grown, I think I will always fight the battle of always doing the right thing, even though I always want to do the right thing. I guess that's the task set before all of us. See Ephesians 6:10-18.
True prosperity is just one good decision away. The more you do what is right, the more joy you will experience.


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Monday, July 20, 2009
A Writer's Story Of The Pain Of Modern Jargon
Hi John,
I saw your latest blog post about insane animation executive blather. It reminded me of a pitch meeting I had last year at Disney.
I was meeting with some artists I like in their TV division to pitch a new idea to their boss, a cookie cutter idle dandy who had, predictably, failed in all other areas of entertainment then drifted, also predictably, into animation. This Disney ass-ecutive arrived ten minutes late, no doubt to instill the proper aura of fear and respect in his underlings. He was also loudly cracking and popping gum, his way of telling us that nothing important was going on in this room, certainly nothing that required his full attention.
I never actually got to say anything for the ass-ec quickly launched into a full flurry of buzz words to describe the series he was looking for: "fresh," "hip," "hot," "out of the box," and the ever popular "cutting edge," which I happened to be fantasizing about applying to his jugular at that moment. As an added bonus, he became intensely involved in examining his right shoe, to the point he removed his Bass weejun and traced his finger over the stitching while continuing to blather on about "narrative arcs," "the heroes' journey," "Joseph Campbell," and other expressions gleaned from a STAR WARS "Making Of" bonus feature.
After several minutes of this, ass-ec's cell phone rang and he stepped into the hallway to confirm his dinner reservation. I looked to the dazed artists on either side of me and remarked, "Don't like cartoons much, do he?" A few pained grins were my only confirmations. A second later ass-ec popped his head back in to announce "We're done," then fluttered away to spread joy elsewhere. Later he called my agent to complain that for a pitch, I didn't put on much of a show for him. "**** just sat there saying nothing." Ass-ec whined. "What was wrong with him, anyway?"
****ing awesome.
Give me a shout if you still want to grab lunch. I see you have a booth at San Diego and will drop by. Hopefully you will have a few of those Donald Bastard shirts in mega-size.
37 comments:
- Mattieshoe said...
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- nktoons said...
Heh, sad but true? That is really a shame. The one that made me groan the most with disgust was "We need a scooby beat here" from a few posts back, I've been randomly dropping it into conversations for a few days now.
- Rodrigo said...
As a long time reader, and a newbie to the industry, having already witnessed some of this executive deviltry, I can't help but wonder if there are any bastions of animation left today.
I see a lot of horror stories about the modern day creative process, but I'd like to hear people's stories that are instead positive. There's must be some creative folks out there who've had dealings with a sensible suit or at least one who respected their creative space. From what I understand, Pixar safeguards their creatives by making sure the producer is solely in charge of budget/money and leaves the creative decisions to the creatives. Can anyone confirm this?
I just feel like I'm getting prematurely weathered with all this doom and gloom.
- Tristan Sregor said...
Wow. Not really giving me too much incentive with wanting to become a cartoonist.
That's just horrible.
- Niki said...
I'm imagining a Russian accent cause I'm trying to think I know who he/she is, but I'm also confident that he/she would never work for the hip Disney. Although I'd like to add I don't know him/her personally, but I really want to!
I hate that word hip, because considering my age group me and my friends would be idle to explain what it is, yet a majority of us are tried of hearing it.
- Whit said...
Guess again, Mattieshoe. The writer should remain nameless so he or she can still work, as John said. But that Disney asshole suit created the "High School Musical" franchise.
- J C Roberts said...
For all you younger budding animators, don't let this kind of thing deter you from trying. These types have always been around stepping on creative toes. If there's one place I can give professional advice, it's about being deterred from trying. I've made a career of it doesn't pay well, though).
If you've got a foot in the door, especially, keep it there. If I hadn't worried so much about these types and the bleak state of animation when I should have gotten started (1980-ish)I may have reaped something by the early 90s. Instead I work in a mail center.
Just get used to the fact that these guys come with the territory if you're trying to get real work in the business. And anyone who wants to be "the next John K" should try to do what he did. I don't mean rip him off, either, I mean work your way through it and get one past them. Then those same execs will be telling their creative teams to rip off YOUR stuff.
- Matt said...
Nothing like an arrogant, clueless air-head exec to truly highlight everything that's wrong with the animation industry, let alone the corporate system at large. What I can't understand though, is how people who have been successful in animation don't become execs themselves and do things right. I'm lookin' at you, John. :-)
Pixar seems to be the closest thing to that, and Ed Catmull seems to be the best that the animation industry execs have to offer.
- Stone said...
enough! let's take back the goddamn industry already! we ought to make our own 'toons even if we gotta stand out on the sidewalk with flipbooks and a tin can with 25cents scribbled on it with a sharpie!
I'm also an industry newbie and... frankly... this is bullshit. I'm disgusted that so many older guys have put up with this kind of (un)professional disrespect for DECADES and haven't the balls to say, "you know what? this ain't right!"
considering our industry is so specialized and really, despite popular belief, not just anyone can do this, we should be up there with the likes of doctors and lawyers. You learn the basics, meet a standard and THEN get paid a fair wage for your time (in theory). instead, the goddamn fry cook at McDonalds gets more respect that any "lazy useless artist that works unpaid overtime and makes assholes millions of dollar at their own expense."
*sigh* back to work I guess.
- Kaiser Fate said...
"The hero's journey" alone deserves the award for the biggest sh*t-slinger in the entertainment industry.
I have had it explained to me so many times that if it ever meant anything to anyone, it would no longer mean anything to me now. Whether they open up Final Draft and write a script or sit down and do the whole story by drawing a story board, it boggles my mind that anyone who would call themselves a "writer" (or occasionally a funnier and more elitist term like "worldsmith") would have to look to the single most overused formula of all time as a 'starting point'.
If a good story follows 'the hero's journey', it just happens. They did not sit down and say, "I'd better start with the Hero's Journey as my launch pad".
- yoghansoth said...
I would love to see an animation revolution. Where all the animators and 'respected animation writers' jump ship and leave some of those tired, sour, repugnant animation companies high and dry. I would enjoy watching one of those really unimaginative cynical companies bankrupt (like one would assume they would if it weren't for all the child targeted marketing). The freed animators then set up their own animation world where they can drive the content and enjoy a few golden years before becoming an dominating, conservative and cynical company of their own.
I mean, surely that's due about now?
(Maybe I'm just mad because I watched the ALIENS IN THE ATTIC trailer).
- Zorrilla said...
I thought the story would end with something like "...and that man was Walt Disney!"
- Jack G. said...
Here's food for thought from the late Al Hirschfeld:
In my time, artists, writers and poets were treated with reverence and their opinions were highly valued... people took artists' thoughts seriously. But today, unless you make money, you're not respected. Now the quotes you read are from businessmen, and artists are thought of as untrustworthy freaks and lunatics.
- David B. Levy said...
I'd file this writer's story under, "worst case scenario." Does it represent every such meeting or every such executive? Of course not. And, it should only talk you out of your dreams if you were looking for a way out in the first place.
The point of these meetings is two fold. It's not just for the suits staring at you to decide your fate. You (the artist) are supposed to make a judgement too. You should be asking yourself, "Do I want to be in business with these people?" And, if so, at what cost or on what terms?
- dancing platypuss said...
hahah... this stuff sounds familiar to me..My first work was ona terrible movie with such a poor story... the main cahracters were a girl and his little brother.... when more than half the movie was already animated producers thought the kid needed to connect better w the audience... so ( and here is the funny thing) the decided to make him LAME!!! they wanted to reanimate all sequences on wich the boy was and put him a wooden leg...0-0...
oh also they run out of money andthey they asked the score guy if he wanted to coproduce the movie... the guy agreed... and one day he came with a piece of music that according to him was" set on the moon" so... we had to create a sequence in the moon cause the guy wanted to ....god god... didnt anyone tohught of making a sitcom about animators and their world?
btw ..GREAT BLOG!!!
- HemlockMan said...
I think Harlan Ellison once jumped one of those guys and shattered his hip. You might want to consider doing that.
- CplEthane said...
The suit behind the desk in that situation sounds exactly like the corporate stereotype you see in movies -- the one who's an obstacle to the protagonist, but whenever the protagonist or whatever he's doing proves to be a smashing success, he acts like he saw this coming all along.
- david gemmill said...
i pitched to a CN executive last year, months later homeboy was fired. No surprise the way that studio is going. He used similar terms mentioned in this post.
also "family guy-light" was one of my favorites.
- Taber said...
These are good stories, and I believe you when you describe the idiocy that goes on in commercial animation at the executive levels.
My real question is, what the heck can we do about it?
Produce independently until our stuff is popular? Refuse to work for shitty execs who force crap into the mainstream? Just shut up and get paid? Work for you? What?
- Dingleberry said...
Ya know what they say.
Low budget means freedom and no lunch.
Big budget means working from a cage and eating eye fillet steaks.
Okay, they don't say that, I say that.
I don't think these tales are deterrents because all artists have heard the stereotypical horror stories for years before they endeavoured to enter their field of interest. It's like in my screenwriting course when a speaker says, "you won't make any money". We don't wanna hear it 'cos we've already heard it. (Then the next week a speaker will say there's big money in screenwriting...)
I have a huge problem with ART and BUSINESS climbing into the same sentence together. They contradict one another and fight like cats in a bag.
Do you think there ever really will be a revolution? And the revolution would in truth have to be larger than just animation, or film and TV, but a whole societal change. Let's hope this predicted death and rebirth of 2012 is for real. This whole world could do with an extreme make-over.
The next generation are being shaped by dross like High School Musical, Miley Cyrus-face and so forth. My friends and I have warped and wonderful dreaming brains thanks to Henson films we watched when very young. Digging up Jim Henson and bringing him back to life with some voodoo could work, or great ideas people could somehow get the power to let the good ideas slip through and create a new pattern.
"Take away the price-tag, it'll be worth more than ever."
- Yowp said...
Alas, management buzzwords and phrases that are laughable clichés aren't restricted to the animation industry.
What's sad is when young people coming in buy into them.
- Mansilla said...
those stories teach me that animation is a business. Not art.
- J C Roberts said...
"a sitcom about animators and their world?"
They did back in '83. It was called "The Duck Factory" and starred Jim Carrey before his career took off. Don Messick played the main voice guy as well.
It didn't last long.
- Whit said...
Digging up and bringing back Jim Henson would bring one swift, welcome result: the firing of everyone running what passes for his former company, including his own kids. Maybe that will also come to pass in 2012.
- ther1 said...
Nice Jim Henson comment. Do you hate Dinosaurs? The last episode had a horrible ending, and the Simpsons got it right when they joked about the show ripping their concept off. "I'm-the-baby" is best left undiscussed. I like the Flintstones better...
Since everyone here is in such a grim mood, I present to you this cartoon about clueless executives and beleaugered employees. Maybe it will help cheer you up.
- Cool Cal said...
I'm not in animation, but attend many insufferable entertainment industry ass-kiss barbecues and the like. The thing that made me want to pounce like a jungle creature on the "creative executive" who said it at the party was "Yeah, just saw Wall-E ... it's actually a really subversive movie." In the context, "subversive" was intended with the same milquetoast cultural significance as "edgy" and "outside-the-box".
- spaz said...
some other inane phrases were;
"through it against the wall and see if it sticks" which is a weird poo term
"punch holes in this for me" referring to underlings tasked with looking for problems with the idea.
regardless, i found myself like Steve Martin in "The Jerk" where he was attempting to maintain rhythm with his black family. i just couldn't get it. i tried to find another subject to switch the writing process to, like cars, engine parts and weapons. something i'm more familiar with. this makes writers even madder. i think it reminded them of Ross Perot too much. i explained, that at least Perot looked like a bloody cartoon.
any good or worthy cartoon has to be written by cartoonists. it's all bloody backwards. as an example visual effects companies are now run by ex-real estate secretaries. this is the reason there is no more innovation, just effects pornography.
- Trevor Thompson said...
"also "family guy-light" was one of my favorites."
Oh God, this is worse than the time I pitched a show to Cartoon Network!
Isn't it sad that there are people out there for whom Family Guy is too weighty a program? Makes you wonder how ANYthing gets sold these days.
In England during the 60s and 70s the BBC had the best attitude for deciding whether or not a show was a good idea: they gave you thirteen episodes and if people liked it, they'd give you thirteen more. They seemed to understand that it was impossible to tell, before broadcasting, if the show would be successful.
Seems obvious when you disdain buzz words and market research for logic, dunnit?
- trevor.
- dancing platypuss said...
h there was already a sitcom about animators?? didn´t know that...
i thonk the problem is that the head guys in this industry have no idea waht they are working for... during my days in a HUGE animation channell que the guy ho was above us all had no idea who was that "wierd yellow bird"... not that im saying its entirely his fault... but man.. at least check waht your channel is showing!!
and about business and art cant work together.. not sure i totally agree.... an animated movie can be good and comercial at the same time
- Rick Roberts said...
"Yeah, just saw Wall-E ... it's actually a really subversive movie."
Wall-E is about as suberversive as Seasame Street, jesus.
- Jonathon said...
I wonder if it's never occurred to Disney as a company to step back an examine their strategies. I can't think of a single animated cartoon from them I've like since they hired someone from Nickelodeon as the head of the department in '97 and canceled the shows I watched as a kid.
Which is unfortunate. Up until that point I really wanted to be part of the industry 'when I grew up', but after that they've produced nothing I'd want to be a part of.
- Martin Juneau said...
"Yeah, just saw Wall-E ... it's actually a really subversive movie."
Not only that. They also contained subliminal messages over all of the movie. It's why it's sucks.
"In my time, artists, writers and poets were treated with reverence and their opinions were highly valued... people took artists' thoughts seriously. But today, unless you make money, you're not respected. Now the quotes you read are from businessmen, and artists are thought of as untrustworthy freaks and lunatics."
Totally true! That's happen too much also in music with songs without real rythms, in humor with comics without actual talent and comics with Italians who copied the Manga style without find their own style.
- pappy d said...
I'd like to hear speculation on who the EXEC is. We need to know so we can fight back by drawing insulting caricatures of him, sorry wimps that we are.
David B. Levy brings some needed moderation to the discussion.
If he's the High School Musical guy, it is the worst case scenario: a successful animation exec. You might expect such a person to assume that the writer & artists were there to soak up the radiation of his own creative genius, which is just what happened. Maybe they would have had more self-confidence if they'd brought along a pitch that was more hip, cutting-edge, etc. I know you think it was. But was it? Was it really?
- Whit said...
It was. And this individual indeed loathes cartoons.
- RobochaoXX said...
John's blog makes the cartoonist/animator industry sound bleak and sad.
Don't follow your dreams is what he's trying to tell me? Executives will stop your ideas to death until the Earth spins twice?
Re Yoghansoth: Greatest thing ever said about anything. Letting the artists and writers take control of everything is like a wet dream to me.
- pappy d said...
I believe you.
- Various said...
"People, we need to facilitate a paradigm shift in blue sky thinking that will push the envelope of key content distribution solutions, while maximising long-tail micropayments for Web 2.0 social networking services in emerging markets. Yah?"
... There, that's all I can think of.


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