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If you want to learn about
supraventricular tachycardia (SVT), go to the topic
Supraventricular Tachycardia.
tachycardia is a fast heart rhythm that starts in the lower part of the heart
(ventricles). If left untreated, some forms of ventricular tachycardia may get
worse and lead to ventricular fibrillation, which can be life-threatening.
Ventricular tachycardia is a fast but regular rhythm. It can lead
to ventricular fibrillation which is fast and irregular. With ventricular
fibrillation, the heart beats are so fast and irregular that the heart stops
pumping blood. Ventricular fibrillation is a leading cause of sudden cardiac
Sometimes it
is not known what causes ventricular tachycardia, especially when it occurs in
young people. But in most cases ventricular tachycardia is caused by heart
disease, such as a previous
heart attack, a
congenital heart defect,
hypertrophic or dilated cardiomyopathy, or
myocarditis. Sometimes ventricular tachycardia occurs
after heart surgery. Inherited heart rhythm problems, such as long QT syndrome or Brugada syndrome, are rare causes of ventricular tachycardia.
Some medicines—including
antiarrhythmic medicines, which are used to treat
other types of abnormal heart rhythms—can cause ventricular tachycardia. Less
common causes include blood imbalances, such as low
potassium levels and other
electrolyte imbalances.
decongestants, herbal remedies (especially those that contain ma huang or
ephedra), diet pills, and "pep" pills often contain stimulants that can trigger
episodes of ventricular tachycardia. Illegal drugs (such as stimulants, like
cocaine) also may cause ventricular tachycardia. It is important to be aware of
which substances have an effect on you and how to avoid them.
In ventricular tachycardia,
the heart beats too rapidly and the ventricles cannot effectively pump
oxygen-rich blood to the rest of the body. Ventricular tachycardia can be
Symptoms include:
This heart rhythm is dangerous for most people. If it lasts more
than just a few seconds, it can turn into ventricular fibrillation which causes
sudden death.
If an
electrocardiogram (EKG, ECG) can be done while
ventricular tachycardia is occurring, it often provides the most useful
information. An electrocardiogram is a tracing of the electrical activity of
your heart. It is usually done along with a history and physical exam,
lab tests, and a
chest X-ray.
Because ventricular
tachycardia can occur intermittently and may not always be captured by an EKG
at the doctor's office, you may be asked to use a portable EKG to record your
heart rhythm on a continuous basis, usually over a 24-hour period. This is
referred to by several names, including ambulatory electrocardiography,
ambulatory EKG, Holter monitoring, 24-hour EKG, or cardiac event monitoring.
Your doctor may recommend further tests, including an
echocardiogram, to evaluate your heart's function, a stress test or coronary
angiogram to determine whether a part of the heart is not getting enough blood,
and/or an electrophysiology (EP) study. An EP study can locate specific areas of heart tissue that
give rise to abnormal electrical impulses, which may be causing the ventricular
tachycardia. This information is used to determine the best treatment.
If you are having symptoms and
are in a sustained tachycardia, it is a medical emergency. You will need
immediate treatment. You may need
CPR or a shock from an automatic defibrillator (also
known as an AED). Paramedics or your doctor may try intravenous medicines or
electrical cardioversion to return your heart to a
normal rhythm.
To prevent the arrhythmia from recurring, you may
need to take
antiarrhythmic medicines.
Your doctor might recommend an implanted device,
called an
implantable cardioverter defibrillator (ICD). An ICD can detect an abnormal heart rhythm and restore a normal rhythm.
In some cases a procedure
called catheter ablation is used to destroy small areas of heart tissue
responsible for the arrhythmia. Catheter ablation might make the arrhythmia happen less often or stop the arrhythmia from happening again.1
It is very important that any causes of
ventricular tachycardia be identified and treated, if possible. For example, if the ventricular tachycardia results from
a medicine, the medicine needs to be stopped.
Call 911 or other emergency services immediately if you have
palpitations, dizziness, near-fainting, or chest pain.
Talk with your doctor before changing your diet. If you want to lose weight, do not use diets that rely on a liquid-based program
or a high-protein regimen. These types of diets can affect the concentrations of electrolytes in your
blood. This can, in turn, cause problems with your heart.
Ask your doctor when you can drive again. If you have had an episode
of ventricular tachycardia or ventricular fibrillation, your doctor may
recommend that you don't drive a car for a few months. This precaution is to
make sure you don't have any other episodes that could make driving
unsafe. Right after you get an ICD implanted, you will not drive for at least a few days.
Travel safely. It is safe for most people with arrhythmias to travel. Plan ahead to travel safely. For example, plan to wear a medical alert bracelet and to bring enough medicine for the length of your trip.
Know how to live well with an ICD. This includes getting your device checked regularly, avoiding strong electric or magnetic fields, exercising safely, and knowing what to do if you get a shock.
Visit the American Heart Association (AHA) website for information on
physical activity, diet, and various heart-related conditions. You can search for information on heart disease and stroke, share information with friends and family, and use tools to help you make heart-healthy goals and plans. Contact the AHA to find your
nearest local or state AHA group. The AHA provides brochures and information
about support groups and community programs, including Mended Hearts, a
nationwide organization whose members visit people with heart problems and
provide information and support.
The Heart Rhythm Society provides information for
patients and the public about heart rhythm problems. The website includes a
section that focuses on patient information. This information includes causes,
prevention, tests, treatment, and patient stories about heart rhythm problems.
You can use the Find a Specialist section of the website to search for a heart
rhythm specialist practicing in your area.
The U.S. National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute
(NHLBI) information center offers information and publications about preventing
and treating:
CitationsAliot EM, et al. (2009). EHRA/HRS expert consensus on catheter ablation of ventricular arrhythmias. Heart Rhythm, 6(6): 886–933.Other Works ConsultedEpstein AE, et al. (1996). Personal and public safety issues related to arrhythmias that may affect consciousness: Implications for regulation and physician recommendations. A medical/scientific statement from the American Heart Association and the North American Society of Pacing and Electrophysiology. Circulation, 94(5): 1147–1166.Epstein AE, et al. (2007). Addendum to Personal and public safety issues related to arrhythmias that may affect consciousness: Implications for regulation and physician recommendations: A medical/scientific statement from the American Heart Association and the North American Society of Pacing and Electrophysiology. Public safety issues in patients with implantable defibrillators. A scienEpstein AE, et al. (2008). ACC/AHA/HRS 2008 Guidelines for Device-Based Therapy of Cardiac Rhythm Abnormalities: A Report of the American College of Cardiology/American Heart Association Task Force on Practice Guidelines. Circulation,
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I really don't know where to start with this one.
I mean, it's not funny. I can start there.
The thing is, that it goes beyond being just 'not funny'. It leaves to discernible impression. It's very zen - being almost not there at all - approaching oblivion. Although that's giving it far too much credit.
So, what do we have here? We have maths. Randy likes maths. Can I call him Randy? We also have fun and games with maths! Haiku! The inherent hilarity of putting something that's not a Haiku into a Haiku! Haiku! Also we have nerd girls. Perhaps not Nerd Girls, but girls who share Randy's passion for maths. Yaaayyyyy. Then there's a, um, 'punchline'. In the loosest sense of the word.
Not so much a punchline, as a weak justification for making a joke and turning Randy's speculative poetry about prime numbers into a comic.
Alt-text also leaves me uninspired. Maybe if I indulge in some sleep deprivation, this bland comic will metamorphose into something good, like new horribleville comics or marmite.
One theory I might cautiously put forward is that Randy didn't write this; instead, a computer program, possibly written by NASA, analyzed many of the trends that appear throughout XKCD, and came out with this. Which would explain why this comic has no soul.
To conclude; this comic makes me remember the 'least interesting man in the world' comic, and smile fondly. Mostly because those beer adds that the comic were based on were kinda sweet.
Oh yeah; the art in this one is a pile of horse-ass too. I mean, obviously, the art is also bland, but sleep deprivation/hallucinations is one subject particularly suited to be shown through compelling art. You could have the teachers head and expression exaggerated and bulbous, while the sleep deprived student's eyes red raw, and bloodshot, with the visuals getting gradually more ludicrous towards the end of the comic [see, for example, the latest Subnormality - carl]. But, none of that, because Randy draws stick people. Always stick people.
-Hought Carding away!
Carl again: I'm going to break some of my Summer of MADNESS rules and add my own post to this. Because I hated this comic a lot more than usual, and probably a lot more than most of you. And it's been a while since I all out blogged.
This comic is a drowning man, grasping for small molecules of humor to keep him a live another week, another month. Randall loves math and used to love drawing comics about math, because for a while there it was a rare thing on the internet so he kind of cornered that market. So here he tosses out another lame math reference for his math-nerd fans. It's not a complicated one - all the math and science in xkcd has been getting simpler over time to appeal to more people. Perhaps you didn't understand it, you stupid idiot you, but it is a pretty basic proof for those who are into math (I recall a friend explaining it to me in 7th grade).
So he's basically just trying to appeal to lots of nerds for sheer nerdery's sake. Because if you don't already know that proof (and there's more on this later) there is no way you are going to understand this one. That's a function of space, sure. For 17 syllables (well, really just 12 without the "QED") it's a fine attempt, but why the fuck write a haiku of a proof, however simple? to be a fucker. That's why. Just to say you did. fucker. Just so you could use the phrase "QED bitches". you're a bit of a QED bitch yourself, randall.
But that's not enough for him. He doesn't just present his little haiku, he has to think of some other justification for it (since "because I am a douche" might look a little odd there). So he makes it some sleep deprivation joke. But not one that makes sense. "Lectures get interesting after 48 hours of sleep deprivation"? What? What does that mean? After 48 hours, things just get horribly tedious and you just want to sleep. Lectures don't magically turn into haiku form. That doesn't make sense. In any way. Making ideas into haikus takes more work and concentration, not less. You are stupid. Maybe if you said "being on acid makes lectures more interesting" that would work a little better.
Randall: You did a good sleep-dep joke already. A long time ago. I'm not saying not to do it again, I'm just pointing out what a good joke looks like. Being tired means that the tired person gets confused easily and perhaps falls asleep randomly, not that the people around them suddenly speak in haikus and fly. god.
But all that is usual xkcd sucks stuff. Not funny, stupid, etc. That's not, on its own, enough for me to upstage Hought Carding like this. Here's why I have to write my own part. Now it's a little math heavy so you can skip it and just read the bold part down below for the gist.
Let's talk about the proof that primes go on forever. Here it is in short: If there were a finite number of primes, then there would be one prime, Q, that was the largest (see, interestingly enough, yesterday's dinosaur comic on a similar idea). So you arrange all the prime numbers, from 2 to Q. And you multiply them together. 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 * 11 *.....* Q. And that will be a crazy huge number that I will name, oh let's say Z. Now Z is of course clearly not prime, because it is divisible by all those numbers. BUT - Z+1 will not be divisible by any of those numbers. That's just what happens when you multiply a bunch of numbers together and add 1. The result is not a multiple of any of them (this makes intuitive sense; if there's a number that was, say, a multiple of 11, you'd need to add 11 more to it to get a new multiple of 11. Just adding 1 isn't enough. Likewise for any other divisor). So Z+1 is not divisible by any prime, and all composite numbers are (hence "composite," because they are "composed" of primes). SO therefore Z+1 is prime, so your list at the beginning was not the list of all possibly primes, so you are wrong, and stupid, the end.
I go through this boring math stuff A) to prove I know it, B) because the nerd in me really does find it elegant in a way, and C) Because Randall got it fucking wrong. he got it wrong. Randall wrote that the proof is to take the "Top Prime's Divisors' Product + 1", and see what its factors are, the implication being that there are none and so you have a new higher prime.
What he is claiming, using my terms, is that the product of Q's divisors + 1 is prime. But of course, Q doesn't have any divisors other than 1 and Q, because it's a prime (the "top prime" as Randy calls it). So the product of the top prime's divisors is just the top prime, Q, again. And that plus one will have a ton of divisors! Probably. It's one higher than a prime number, which is (except in the case of the number 2) always going to be even, for one thing, so divisible by at least 2, probably more.
Here's an example - 31, could be your pretend "top prime" (obviously it's not, but no prime will be, that's the point). So you take the "top primes's divisors product +1 " = (31*1)+1=32. It's "Factors are..." 1, 2, 4, 8, 16 and 32. So...there's a bunch of them!
Luckily some forumites noticed this problem, and at least one even corrected it in a new, better, haiku.
So let me now, with that clearly explained, be nice and clear about this next part. Let's even use some bold.
Randall. You draw a webcomic three times a week. Its motto is that it is a webcomic of "Romance, Sarcasm, Math, and Language." "Math" is one of those. You also worked for NASA. Doing math and physics. You hang around with MIT kids, who are mostly good at math. You do not have to spend much time on your comic. You have a good career. SO WHY CAN'T YOU JUST TAKE THE TIME TO NOT FUCK UP? You are an irresponsible hack of a cartoonist.
the end.

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94 comments:
- Anonymous said...
I could not agree more. Well put.
- 22 June 2011 at 09:59
- Sarah G said...
Here here! It was a sad day when the florists closed, it made such a positive statement on an ugly roundabout.
It's reassuring to see locals are still supporting Brockley gems such as Browns, Broca, Degustation, The Orchard, the list goes on! We are very lucky to have such a fine selection of local places to spend our hard earned pennies! :0)
- 22 June 2011 at 10:02
- Tim said...
Completely agree. A healthy high street has a happy mix of quality chains and quality independents. I have no idea how landlords think that keeping units empty is a good way to make money. What is the owner of La Lanterna thinking, for example?
Also, given levels of unemployment in this country, I am shocked there aren't more entrepreneurs opening businesses like the successful Orchard and Browns. There has to be money to be made?
- 22 June 2011 at 10:23
- Anonymous said...
re the Lanterna:
They would appear to think that when they turn it into a huge barn of a place(which will send us elsewhere),
that they will recoup their money and more!
- 22 June 2011 at 10:31
- TM said...
Shame there isn't a chain of Sounds Around on every high street.
- 22 June 2011 at 10:40
- mk said...
Well, the chains you've listed are by and large chains of convenience, and Tesco and Wetherspoons aside, aren't usually involved in the overly-aggressive pricing that crowds out opportunities for independent rivals. I also don't know that there's much of an independent alternative to a petrol station like Esso, or that people would treasure such an option all that much.
Chains such as Costa or Pizza Express would have more of an impact I think, because they are more of a lifestyle brand than Big Yellow or Coral.
On another note, what happening with La Lanterna?
- 22 June 2011 at 10:51
- Anonymous said...
About Brockley Road (and perhaps mildly off topic): Isn't one of the good things about Brockley that the main road going through it isn't *that* busy, so the place isn't cut in half? Otherwise I can only think of Dulwich Village and Peckham nearby where this applies. Crossing the main road in Brixton for instance feels like emigrating to another continent and takes about as long.
- 22 June 2011 at 10:52
- Anonymous said...
and my favourite, Morleys.
- 22 June 2011 at 11:14
- mb said...
"...there aren't more entrepreneurs opening businesses..."
Most bussiness need a line of credit don't they? the banks aren't lending (old man Vince is getting annoyed about that) and borrowing against the value of your property (assuming you have one) will be difficult I'm sure. Lot's of people are hunkering down and saving more. It's perhaps not to be discouraged after the last couple of decades but all of the above does not lend itself to opening a small bussiness.
- 22 June 2011 at 11:23
- mb said...
...and agree about the chain thing. Chains are not inherently bad because they are chains, Antic Pubs are a mid sized chain and although there are similarities across their pubs I'd say that they are a positive addition to any high street.
- 22 June 2011 at 11:25
- unchain Brockley said...
What some people are worried about are those chains
(pizza express, starbucks, not that they are coming anytime soon) that will attract the kind of people to the area who'll change the feel of Brockley in a bourgeoise way.
- 22 June 2011 at 11:27
- LadyPeez said...
This is a very sensible posting. Brockley is not chain free and never will be.
I'm not sure what chains are badly run, I do know that plenty of independents are appallingly managed. Toads Mouth Too springs to mind.
Part of Brockley's problem is it lacks a coherent centre. There are at least three mainline stations serving a reasonably low density area, meaning that there is no one area to go to and not enough people in any one place.
This, coupled with narrow pavements on the main road, and the tendency for long stretches where there are only shops on one side of the street, makes it difficult to create a Lordship Lane type feel (and, let's face it, Brockley is not affluent enough to sustain such an offering anyway, which is part of the reason why it doesn't exist).
While The Orchard demonstrates that a business can succeed (but please vary the menu, people are getting bored!) the likelihood is Brockley will remain a slightly disparate entity with some businesses coming and going, the odd chain staying, and some retail outlets remaining empty, for many years to come. That's not to be pessimistic, just realistic.
It's not about 'mung' versus 'chains'. It's about facing up to the fact that there is some lovely housing stock in a leafy part of Lewisham, straddled by the A2 and A20 and a cut through to the south circular, and a few 'ok' places to go to dotted about. That's where we live, best get used to it.
- 22 June 2011 at 11:28
- TM said...
Here is a chain looking for new opportunities.
Can anyone find a location and persuede them to come to Brockley?
Hope the link works.
- 22 June 2011 at 11:41
- Anonymous said...
You've done it now TM!
- 22 June 2011 at 11:46
- KennyTinsel said...
A branch of John Lewis would be nice. With a food hall.
- 22 June 2011 at 11:52
- Ross said...
"Also, given levels of unemployment in this country, I am shocked there aren't more entrepreneurs opening businesses like the successful Orchard and Browns. There has to be money to be made?"
because its extremely expensive to do along with being massively time consuming and confusing.
- 22 June 2011 at 12:07
- Tiny said...
It is good to see that blot on Brockley Station, D & M Van Hire, has been ticketed this morning. 'And it will be happening on a regular basis,' according to a well-placed source. (If he continues to park his vehicles unlawfully that is.)
Now we need to deal with the constant dumpers of rubbish at Brockley Cross.
- 22 June 2011 at 12:08
- Anonymous said...
Better a chain of non-independent shops than a chain of empty shops.
- 22 June 2011 at 12:13
- Richard Elliot said...
Well said Nick.
- 22 June 2011 at 12:38
- Elin said...
Bringing in chains that do not bring much into the local community will not make an area better for the local community. Maybe a bit more attractive, but local business that work will do the same.
Locally owned businesses brings a much larger share of their own revenue back into the local economy.
Small business will select products and prices based on what works in the area, not based on a national sales plan. And chains don't normally change their menu that often either.
Not to mention supply chain/social and environmental issues with larger chains (also there in smaller businesses, but not as much).
Organisations like HCD in Hackney (a local community economic development organisation) helps with these things. Someone could do something like that in the area to help with business support...
- 22 June 2011 at 13:20
- Anonymous said...
So, if Brockley needs more businesses opened, what do people want to see?
- More eateries and what kind - cafes, restaurants, cake shops,take-aways, bakery
- bars
- shops: general/convenience stores, food, artizan, fruit and veg, clothing, arts, music, flowers, gift, furniture, electrics, house stuff, DIY, bargain stores, market, sports,
- kids activities, adult education, community activities
- fitness
What kind of independent (or not!) traders could Brockley do with?
- 22 June 2011 at 13:27
- Anonymous said...
If it was straightforward to start a successful business, of course more people would be doing it. It is not. Having your own business takes over your life. Most of us like a more even work-life balance.
- 22 June 2011 at 13:33
- Brockley Nick said...
Elin - it's true that chains repatriate profits to whoever their investors are (possibly your pension fund) but when evaluating the contribution of any business to the local community, it's a much more complex equation.
The questions that really matter are:
1. Does it occupy a site that is likely to stay vacant otherwise?
2. Does it make the closure of other local businesses more likely?
3. Does it attract more footfall to the area, for the benefit of other businesses?
4. How many people does it employ locally?
5. How much value does it add to the lives of local people (convenience, experience, essential services, etc)?
6. How much more or less likely are other businesses to locate themselves near it? (Do they want to bask in its halo or run a mile?)
7. How does it conduct itself in the community? Does it hire local contractors? Does it respect the local environment? Does it park its vans illegally in the middle of the road, etc, etc.
In most cases, where the profits go is a minor factor (most small businesses don't make any profits for the first 3 years of their lives anyway).
For example, I think nearly everyone would welcome the arrival of a high street bank to the area. Because it would provide a useful service, draw people to the high street, improve a shabby shop front and - ideally - lend to other local enterprises.
No one would care that all high street banks are massive chains which make huge profits that go to investors all over the world. In fact, banks are criticised for withdrawing communities.
- 22 June 2011 at 13:34
- Brockley Nick said...
PS - two more points "independent" is not the same as "locally owned". And it doesn't really bother me where the owner lives, so long as they act responsibly towards the local area.
The suggestion that local businesses have more environmentally friendly supply chains is simply not true. Large companies can devote dedicated resources to auditing supply chains, devising CSR strategies, leveraging economies of scale to drive down environmental impact (eg: more efficient use of lorries, etc). Small businesses can't do any of that.
Yes, there are some independent businesses that work very hard to be as sustainable and ethical as they can, but most don't and nearly everyone is ultimately in the hands of (large) distributors, to a great extent.
- 22 June 2011 at 13:42
- Brockley Jon said...
Speaking of empty shops, what about Ask Toes - it has been like that for as long as I can remember, graffiti & all. Could be a great little independent shop.
- 22 June 2011 at 14:00
- TM said...
I thought it had structural issues which were beyond economic repair.
Also shouldn't it be Toes Ask?
- 22 June 2011 at 14:07
- kolp said...
Well said Elin, your points match the experience we have in Brockley with Broca, Browns -The Shop on the Hill, Orchard etc. Successful locally based & independent businesses do much more for a community.
Local events & initiatives are supported & participated in, as in the BMax & dearly departed (Chocki of Brockley -chocolatiers). A start up business had its lines supported in many of the shops mentioned. Try getting a chain to do that.
Local& independent enterprises may be not be awash with cash but decision making is direct, fast.
Chains due to their corporate structure will tend to be lumbering.
- 22 June 2011 at 14:56
- Brockley Nick said...
I've written an article in praise of the co-operation between some of the good local businesses - particularly Brown's of Brockley's pay-it-forward approach. Search for "pays it forward" to find the article.
However, it's also true that many independent businesses don't do any of that sort of thing.
Some independents are small and quick, some are struggling to keep their heads above water. Some big businesses are stuck in their ways, on the other hand Tesco was able to roll out an entire new concept store across the US in an eye-wateringly short time. Big businesses have money, economies of scale and expertise. That means that they can do some things much faster than small businesses. Horses for courses.
There are good and bad chains, good and bad independents. It's not about chains v independents, it's about good businesses v bad businesses.
- 22 June 2011 at 15:04
- Paddy said...
I would be glad to see Pizza Express or Nandos in Brockley. Happy to live without the coffee shops as we have so many great ones of our own. Just no more fried chicken or bookies please!
So does this mean that TM2 is closing down as a going concern?? If so i am really disappointed as I love this place, especially the garden in Summer!
- 22 June 2011 at 15:08
- Matt Lipsis said...
I'd like to draw your attention to a similar debate in neighbouring Nunhead - http://nunheadforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?2,107
Clearly this is a topical issue that requires some thought.
Much love to Brockley Central!
- 22 June 2011 at 15:24
- kolp said...
Tesco what a reassuring example of fast reacting corporation.
They are like the Japanese Knotweed or retail.
- 22 June 2011 at 15:36
- Brockley Nick said...
You're the one who presented speed as a virtue, not me. I don't really see it as either particularly virtuous or a strength of independent businesses. Sounds Around has yet to embrace Blu-Ray and probably never will. Still love it though.
- 22 June 2011 at 15:38
- Brockley Dogging Society - Sub Edditing Dept. said...
"Local events & initiatives are supported & participated in, as in the BMax ..... Try getting a chain to do that."
Wetherspoons supported the BMax as did Antic pubs. An estate agents ,forget which, helped with the Hilly Fields Fayre. We were also right behind them, we were you know. In the bushes, peering out.
We find a little research can avoid a lot of embarasment.
- 22 June 2011 at 16:24
- Brockley Nick said...
Good point well made doggers. CK was the sponsor of Hilly Fields.
- 22 June 2011 at 17:14
- TM said...
Novel way of spelling "editing"
- 22 June 2011 at 17:22
- Brockley Dogging Society - appointments department, department. said...
Sorry TM, We have removed Colin from his post temporarily. He finds typing difficult at the mo, an unfortunate accident with a set of industrial nipple clamps. How we LOLed!
- 22 June 2011 at 17:30
- TM said...
Laughed out Louded?
Bad to verse
- 22 June 2011 at 17:45
- Brockley Dogging Society - anarchoshaggers said...
@TM it's the 21st Internet generation. We're not restricted by the tyranny of grammar or spelling.
- 22 June 2011 at 19:03
- Lou Baker said...
The anti-chain people are, by and large, idiots.
Successful chains are successful because they offer people what they want. They employ large numbers of people, pay vast amounts of tax and benefit large numbers of people.
Independent retailers can be good. But they can be bad too. I was in an independent shop, in Brockley just yesterday. And despite there being no queue I waited for 5 minutes to be served because the owner/manager was chatting away on the phone. That was crap service. And that's why he will only ever be an independent retailer.
A good business is a good business - whether it employs 1 person or 100,000 people.
- 22 June 2011 at 21:17
- Captain Birkenstock, 4th Brockley Sandle wearing Brigade said...
will not react to the troll, will not react to the troll will not.... *repeat untill he goes away*
Agree 100% with Nick.
- 22 June 2011 at 21:25
- Anonymous said...
I want to open a coffee shop. An Amsterdam style one.
- 22 June 2011 at 21:51
- Anonymous said...
Lou, you talk a lot of sense, as usual. I totally agree re the independent shops offer cf the more service led offer of the chains. It is ironic and surprising but there it is. Magi and toad are two examples of lovely shops with huge potential if run properly. The orchard guy has done well but there seems to be a dearth of similar entrepreneurs. As for chains, only a fool would prefer an empty or uninspiring shop over a chain. Well said Nick.
- 22 June 2011 at 23:34
- Anonymous said...
Sorry - " independent shops' offer"
Should have had an apostrophe....
- 22 June 2011 at 23:35
- brockleyite said...
Very well expressed Nick.
I am amazed that so many of the shops in Brockley survive at all. I would guess that many Brockley residents spend their hard-earned cash elsewhere.
I also remember when there was a Midland bank (in the 'Sids' parade where the chemist is along from St.Andrew's church).
But the latest addition 'Brockley Rock' has a lovely sign.
There is no centre for Brockley and never will be whilst there isn't an attractive venue with a capacity to hold a crowd. All the previous halls have been sold off, are dingy, and open air events or the park has no undercover area/facilities.
The only other halls are in schools and are under various management and not really available or open to the whole community.
The footfall is to the station - (or schools and Goldsmiths) so basically a daily mass exodus of the working population, with a handful of new cafes and restaurants in shop units which do not realistically hold a large crowd.
- 22 June 2011 at 23:54
- Durrrr said...
Brockleyite, think you may have slightly missed the point of nicks post. nick has a far less bleak view of the area and it's future.
And Lou hasnt "talked sense as usual" he's called some people idiots while repeating some of what nick said but with less balance and coherence.
Don't think he's recovered after the ELL debacle and the comprehensive dismantling of his argument regarding the Big Society.
- 23 June 2011 at 07:09
- Anonymous said...
Brockley would be an ideal challenge for Mary Portas- Queen of shops- in her new government advisory role as revamper of The UKs high streets-
- 23 June 2011 at 08:32
- Lou Baker said...
If you dislike a chain just because it's a chain you are an idiot.
Likewise, if you like an independent retailer just because it's independent you are also an idiot.
There are good big businesses and bad small ones. And vice versa.
There are moral chains and immoral independents. And vice versa.
Judging something on its size alone is idiotic.
And I've never been wrong about the ELL. I said it would be a moderate improvement at best. And it is.
- 23 June 2011 at 09:31
- Mmmm, pizzaaaa said...
Anyone know what the story is with that junk shop on the corner of Brockley and Cranfield? Hopefully it's temporary, as that doesn't do anything positive for the area and it's a great spot for a proper business.
- 23 June 2011 at 09:44
- Open a bakers or go away said...
Who is this Lou person who likes calling people idiots? What an...
- 23 June 2011 at 09:46
- Paddy said...
Noticed this morning on my way to work that the old Ladywell pharmacy down in Ladywell Village (sounds posh) has those cheap flag signs all over it for a new business opening up offering legal services, laptop repairs, internet cafe, western union transfers and hairpieces! I cracked up laughing at the random mix of stuff on offer! Bet they end up doing international call cards and mobile accessories too.
- 23 June 2011 at 10:01
- Elin said...
Brockley Nick,
I've added my comments after yours below.
1. Does it occupy a site that is likely to stay vacant otherwise?
I would ask -Does it take up a space that would otherwise be available for local businesses?
2. Does it make the closure of other local businesses more likely?
Only if it brings in more chains that take over local business which I'm afraid has happened in many places
3. Does it attract more footfall to the area, for the benefit of other businesses?
Probably, but it depends on if you are a looking at having lots of people in the area, or if you are interested in making the actual area more profitable
4. How many people does it employ locally?
Yes that would most likely be the same for a locally owned business and a chain (or even more for a chain)
5. How much value does it add to the lives of local people?
A well run local business would add as much value if not even more as they will most likely look at what the local area is interested in instead of, as I said in my previous comment, have a national sales plan
6. How much more or less likely are other businesses to locate themselves near it?
I haven't seen any statistics or research on this (anything out there?)
7. How does it conduct itself in the community?
Yes, that could be the same for both chains and locally owned businesses
8. In most cases, where the profits go is a minor factor.
I disagree, ok that small business won't make much profit for the first 3 years, but there are statistics that show that locally owned businesses bring more money into the community, by using more local produce and services, while chains, even though they also employ local people, bring much less.
9. For example, I think nearly everyone would welcome the arrival of a high street bank to the area.
I think you need to distinguish between different types of business here
Garages and banks for example – how many locally owned/ independent ones are there of these? So to be able to have bank accounts etc and use petrol, of course there will be high street ones in the area.
Supermarkets and restaurants etc – there are locally owned versions of these and that's what I'm talking about.
10. PS - two more points "independent" is not the same as "locally owned".
Locally owned and independent - sure they are 2 different things, but most of the time I believe independent business are locally owned.
11. The suggestion that local businesses have more environmentally friendly supply chains is simply not true.
Local business can have more direct contact with the whole supply chain, while large companies, even though they have their CRS strategies, hardly know their supply chain. They usually know to tier 1 but not further than that, and are therefore often blind to the risks and conditions associated with the rest of their own supply chain.
12. Yes, there are some independent businesses that work very hard to be as sustainable and ethical as they can, but most don't and nearly everyone is ultimately in the hands of (large) distributors, to a great extent.
Yes there are good and bad businesses. I think, as I said in my previous comment, I see a need for an organisation like HCD in Hackney (a local community economic development organisation). Someone could do something like that in the area to help with business support... HCD helps with rent, business support, applying for funds etc and they work with businesses that will bring benefits to the local community.
- 23 June 2011 at 10:22
- abw said...
i grew up in crofton park with a butchers a bakers a fishmongers and a greengrocers and the local co op has always existed in some form or other for tinned foods etc. Local bliss. However todays aggressive supermarkets are designed to sell EVERYTHING at cut price and will kill off the local businesses. For a more recent exapmle take Catford - Tescos starts selling half price fruit and veg and the beautiful fruit stall outside dies within 6 months only to be replaced by a £-scoop low quality stall. When Tescos started selling carribean bread the local west indian bakers went under in 6 months. Cheap meat in Tescos - lovely local butchers on corner by the 'Cat" turned into nasty 'meat express'.
In this challenging economic climate loyalty is understandably low.Any of the big 4 supermarkets in brockley will determine the quality of the shops around it and not in a good way.
Let supermarkets fill the gap in places where there is no alternative eg the tescos local about to open in ladywell (corner of whitburn/high st)
- 23 June 2011 at 10:40
- Brockley Nick said...
@Elin - You seem to be attempting to answer these questions without a specific business in mind. That's my point. Each business needs to be looked at individually.
You say later: "I think you need to distinguish between different types of business here"
Yes, that's precisely the point of the article.
On point 1: yes, that's another way of putting it, but given that Brockley has lots of empty units, I don't think that's really a risk.
On point 3 you say:
"Probably, but it depends on if you are a looking at having lots of people in the area, or if you are interested in making the actual area more profitable."
I'm sorry, I don't understand the distinction you are trying to make here. How do you make the area "more profitable" without having more people as customers? We can encourage people to spend more locally by giving them more attractive local options, but that's up to business to sort out and the point of this article is that chains could play a valid role in doing this.
On point 6: yes, there are various studies looking at clusters and the logic is obvious. If you have a nice restaurant in the area then a nice bar next door might attract some people for a pre- or post-meal drink, for example. If you have a bank next door, then more people are likely to pop in to your shop. This clustering effect is why high streets exist, after all.
On point 11: sorry, that's just not true. Quite the reverse.
On point 12: yes, I can see that might help in a few instances and would support one if you wanted to start one. The Council did precisely this through their town centre managers programme, but it was a flop and they scrapped them. Businesses told me they were of little to no value. That doesn't mean someone or something else couldn't do it better.
- 23 June 2011 at 10:44
- Monkeyboy said...
The 'locally sourced' badge of excellence is overused and does have much to do with great shops independand or not. Degustation and Genaros are both excellent specialist retailers, I don't think they sell a single thing that could be described as 'locally sourced'. Is it better (whatever that means) to buy cheese from a 'local' industrial cheese factory from a small bussiness in cornwall? Small bussinesses have had to adapt their offering since some bloke decided to stop faming, and selling the surplus, and decided to act as an agent to sell the surplus of others - about 5000 years ago.
- 23 June 2011 at 11:11
- mb said...
should have read:
...overused and does NOT have much to do with great...
But you get the point?
- 23 June 2011 at 11:13
- Elin said...
Brockley Nick,
1 You seem to be attempting to answer these questions without a specific business in mind. That's my point. Each business needs to be looked at individually.
I'm talking in general, and don't think there needs to be a specific business. But Broca I think is a good example. Farm shop in Hackney is another (who also produce their products).
2 You say later: "I think you need to distinguish between different types of business here"
Yes, that's precisely the point of the article. I don't think you do distinguish between them though?
3 I'm sorry, I don't understand the distinction you are trying to make here. How do you make the area "more profitable" without having more people as customers? We can encourage people to spend more locally by giving them more attractive local options, but that's up to business to sort out and the point of this article is that chains could play a valid role in doing this.
As I pointed out chains do bring less money into a local areas. That is my point about making an area more profitable.
4 On point 6: yes, there are various studies looking at clusters and the logic is obvious. If you have a nice restaurant in the area then a nice bar next door might attract some people for a pre- or post-meal drink, for example. If you have a bank next door, then more people are likely to pop in to your shop. This clustering effect is why high streets exist, after all.
Other chains, yes, but what about other businesses.
The question here really is I think do people want the area to look like any other area with lots of chains, or do they want more diversity. I'm more for more diversity, but that doesn't mean other people here are. Maybe people would prefer to have lots of chains and the same things as in some other high streets.
5 On point 11: sorry, that's just not true. Quite the reverse.
And what do you base that on. Sainsburys? How many farmers do you think Sainsburys know. How many suppliers within the supply chain does a large company know beyond Tier 1? Not many. I would be interested if you had some facts to say the opposite?
6 On point 12: yes, I can see that might help in a few instances and would support one if you wanted to start one. The Council did precisely this through their town centre managers programme, but it was a flop and they scrapped them. Businesses told me they were of little to no value. That doesn't mean someone or something else couldn't do it better.
Let's hope someone starts one. I'm just saying there are other options out there. Maybe local people who want to start businesses can get together and look at other options.
Monkeybuy, I agree, locally produced in England is often what you will look at for products like cheese and other food products, as there is not much produced in Brockley for example. An of course, tea and coffee for example - England doesn't grow much and we do want these products so of course sourcing them responsibly is a good option.
- 23 June 2011 at 11:37
- Brockley Nick said...
Brockley Nick,
But Broca I think is a good example. Farm shop in Hackney is another (who also produce their products).
Perhaps they are. And what does this prove. My questions were designed to be applied to any business moving in to an area, to see whether it is a "good thing" or not (never mind their right to exist). All I'm saying is that the issues are complicated and the blanket fear of chains is silly.
"As I pointed out chains do bring less money into a local areas."
You did assert that, but I don't accept it as an axiom. In any case, we are not dealing with an either / or situation. There are plenty of empty units. A chain moving in doesn't need to displace anyone, it may help attract independent businesses. Which brings us on to the next point...
"Other chains, yes, but what about other businesses."
Yes, other independent businesses. I've already given examples of how a bank could help an independent shop and a restaurant chain could help an independent bar. Why should only chains want to locate themselves next to Pizza Express?
"The question here really is I think do people want the area to look like any other area with lots of chains, or do they want more diversity. I'm more for more diversity."
I suspect this is the real motivation for a lot of complaints about chains. It's one I sympathise with, but it's completely unrelated to the economic argument. But just as Brockley's high-streets are not chain free, neither are they "diverse". In fact, they look many shabby high streets in many parts of London. I don't see how getting a Yo Sushi or a Whistles (not that we will get either of those) would make the high street less diverse. It will make it more diverse than it currently is. And yes, it might look like a generic nice high street, but better that than a generic nasty high street. Anyway, it's complete fantasy to imagine Brockley Road will become swamped with chains - it's just too small to interest most.
"And what do you base that on. Sainsburys? How many farmers do you think Sainsburys know."
No, not on Sainsbury's. I have worked with lots of multinationals whose job it is to know their supply chain inside out. A very small number of shops might know the farms they source some of their products from, but the vast majority don't source direct, do they. Again, it should go back to those key questions. And you seem fixated on sourcing. What about logistics? Energy efficient design and fit out? Worker pay and conditions? Just because a shop buys its eggs from a lovely farmer, doesn't mean that their sustainable performance is particularly good. And what about that farmer? How's their supply chain?
- 23 June 2011 at 12:00
- Anonymous said...
I want a second-hand bookshop
- 23 June 2011 at 12:12
- Anonymous said...
Or should that be, a second-hand books shop
- 23 June 2011 at 12:13
- Anonymous said...
The Brockley Book Box
- 23 June 2011 at 12:15
- Brockley Nick said...
Presumably, to make a second-hand book shop work these days you need a landlord willing to charge a peppercorn rent on a largish unit (books need quite a bit of display space and room for people to mill around) and someone willing to do run it as a lifestyle option, able to work for a minimal income. A retiree?
Otherwise I just don't see how a second hand bookshop is viable, unless you're talking about rare collecters items / antiques.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:17
- Brockley Nick said...
After all, there are quite a few second hand book sales locally.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:18
- Anonymous said...
Yeah it's not a viable business to be sure. It's just wishful thinking.
I didn't know there were local book sales though. I'll try and keep an eye out.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:34
- Elin said...
Good sicussion.
I work with multinationals who do not have a clue and since I'm guessing neither of us can say anything more specific on that subject I think best to leave it there.
If you are interested in statistics on money brought back into the area from small businesses vs large companies I can send it to you.
I think it's naive to think that only 1 or 2 chains move in.
And as far as you think chains bring diversity, well that's your option. But again, you are mixing up banks with restaurants and bars (and that was my point about distinguishing between businesses)
But of course I do agree that there are good and bad business (both small and large business). Coop for example or Brewers fayre are good examples.
Yes I did focus on sourcing as an example, and you are right in energy efficiency etc. Would be great if there were more businesses thinking about those things. I think large and small businesses are bad at that. And I'm sure you will say that larger companies look at that more, but I have seen evidence that they don't.
Worker's rights and pay. Do you mean locally? I think most good business (large and small- and yes I do agree that there at bad and good businesses in both small and large ones, I've never said otherwise) will address that.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:34
- Anonymous said...
I can imagine the walls of one of the Toads Mouth Too rooms covered in books, as a business within a business.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:37
- Brockley Nick said...
Yes, I can see that working, though again, not really going to generate significant money.
Needs someone who takes it upon themselves to strike up a relationship with a local venue, source the books, agree a revenue share with the venue (presumably the venue actually handles the purchase transaction), keep stocks replenished and market the fact that the offer now exists. But I don't believe something like that would turn over more than 100 quid a week, of which, let's say 20% goes on costs (stock and sundry costs) and 50% of the remaining £80goes to the venue.
Let's be positive and say £50 a week. Not to be sniffed at, but only viable as a hobby / part time exercise.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:44
- Brockley Nick said...
PS - The venue(or whoever) would still need to be able to use the space to serve customers, otherwise there's no way they'll give up valuable floor space for such a low-margin use.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:45
- Danja said...
Garages keep being mentioned as natural chain (as opposed to local) businesses. That wasn't always the case, and even now many (most?) are franchises. So (maybe) local businesses for local people (and others) but also part of a chain.
Just like a McDonalds and KFC would be if some of the anons got their wishes fulfilled with the local good honest food offerings.
- 23 June 2011 at 12:47
- Brockley Nick said...
"I think it's naive to think that only 1 or 2 chains move in."
I think it's naive to worry about chains moving in. As I've said, they're already here and have been for many years. We might get another supermarket chain (to join the many we already have) and possibly another fast-food or takeaway chain, but I just don't believe that the units are suitable in most cases, nor that the scale of the high-street is sufficient. We definitely won't get any high street shops. We might get a restaurant chain one day. Maybe a bar chain, but unless Gulen's or Wetherspoon sells-up, don't know where one would go.
"You are mixing up banks with restaurants and bars (and that was my point about distinguishing between businesses)"
I'm not complaining about chains, so it's not me mixing anything up. I appreciate there is a big difference between a bank and a bar or a shop. I think it's incumbent upon the "anti-chain" crowd to specify what types of chain they are particularly worried about, then we can have a sensible discussion about the pros and cons.
"But of course I do agree that there are good and bad business (both small and large business)."
Right then, so what are we arguing about?
"Coop for example or Brewers Fayre are good."
Well the co-op in CP isn't very good. And you'll have to enlighten me as to why Brewers Fayre is "good". Owned by Whitbread, like Costa Coffee - would you be happy if they opened locally?
- 23 June 2011 at 13:15
- Elin said...
Wow I didn't realise Brockley Nick and I were arguing.
To make this short (and not a continuation of an 'argument') I will just make
2 last points.
1. Some high street 'chains' like banks and garages are difficult not to have locally as there are no alternatives.
2. However, there are other alternatives to restaurants and supermarket chains. And there are examples were these work. What I tried to point out, and what I think is the most important thing, is that local businesses do bring more benefits to an area, as:
a. More of the money spent stays and recirculates in the local economy - 2, 3 times as much as for chains (though Brockley Nick doesn't believe this, that doesn't mean it's not true).
b. Local businesses are more likely to think about what the people in the area actually wants
and no there are not that many in Brockley area that do that at the moment, which is why I mentioned HCD in Hackney.
- 23 June 2011 at 13:42
- Anonymous said...
Food and drink, I can get from the supermarkets, although a good local butcher would be nice (Wellbeloved in Deptford being the closest).
The conveniences I miss (but accept I will probably never see in Lewisham let alone Brockley) are a good bookshop (closest: Greenwich, unless you count the restricted opening and subjects in Goldsmiths) and a gentlemen's outfitters (not just a recycler of unspeakable branded "designer" goods) (closest: Central London as far as I am aware).
- 23 June 2011 at 13:58
- Brockley Nick said...
I would welcome a successful equivalent of HCD being set up.
As many people have said, the most successful high strets usually have a mix of chains and independents. That's what I'm arguing for. Certainly that's what Stoke Newington in Hackney has.
Please post the link to the stats about circulation of money. I've heard those kinds of stats before, but it would be interesting to see the small print.
How much money does La Lanterna circulate in the local economy? Or the empty units on Harefield Road and in the Tea Factory? Or the deserted businesses at Brockley Cross?
- 23 June 2011 at 13:58
- Anonymous said...
A good manager/franchise-owner of a chain store should always be aware of what the locals want. That's how to run a good business.
For example, a good supermarket in an area with a large Caribbean-descended population will stock up on Caribbean foods
My dreams of a bookshop aside, what this area could do with is a good Italian/pizza place.
Some of the existing takeaway restaurants in the Brockley Station area could also improve.
There's a couple of great restaurants in Honor Oak and some good spots around Lewisham Way.
As for other kinds of stores, I think Brockley is pretty much covered isn't it? I can't think what's missing. So any new business is likely to be a competitor to an already existing venture (Brockley Rock for example - although I'm very looking fwd to that)
- 23 June 2011 at 14:09
- Brockley Nick said...
@Elin - I guess I should add - to this extent, we totally agree:
I would love it if Brockley's high streets were occupied exclusively by excellent independent businesses offering quality, value and range to suit all tastes and needs. I think this would be preferable to a high-street full of chains, even if those businesses did all of the same things - precisely because I agree that clone-streets are boring and I'd rather local entrepreneurs were benefitting from my spending (actually this is only true up to a point, I'd rather my money go to shareholders in a chain than a multi-millionaire small business owner, however local they were, because the chances are my pension fund is one of those shareholders).
However, where we differ is that I think both of these scenarios are pure fantasy.
The best chance we have of creating a pleasant, fun, useful high streets is with a mix of good quality businesses of all kinds and I think chains have a clear role to play.
- 23 June 2011 at 14:10
- kolp said...
I don't like dishonesty in arguments. It demeans the person that does it.
The actual quote"
Referring to Chocki I wrote :"A start up business had its lines supported in many of the shops mentioned. Try getting a chain to do that."
the strawman quote:
(note the elipsis) "Local events & initiatives are supported & participated in, as in the BMax ..... Try getting a chain to do that."
- 23 June 2011 at 14:11
- Anonymous said...
Sorry my last example was also a restaurant, but you get my point
- 23 June 2011 at 14:11
- Westsider said...
kolp, lots of chain stores stock local producers. Managers have some scope to make their own decisions about what lines to stock and what local causes to support. Talking of which are you going to credit Wetherspoons and Antic for their support of the Max, cos you did kind of ignore that.
- 23 June 2011 at 14:15
- Anonymous said...
A Sainsbury's local would be excellent
- 23 June 2011 at 14:16
- Anonymous said...
The Orchard restaurant should move into Toads Mouth Too and turn the existing Orchard into just a bar. Kerchingg!
- 23 June 2011 at 14:21
- TM said...
There used to be a national chain of butchers called Dewhursts.
What ever happend to them I wonder?
Actually I know ;o)
- 23 June 2011 at 14:43
- BDS - Readers Editor. said...
@ KolpThe full quote was....
"Local events & initiatives are supported & participated in, as in the BMax & dearly departed (Chocki of Brockley -chocolatiers). A start up business had its lines supported in many of the shops mentioned. Try getting a chain to do that."
Wetherspoons, Antic and CK are all chains. They all supported local events and initiatives such as the BMax and Broc Soc Fayre. No they didn't sell local chocolate but my point stands. Big chains can and do support events, possibly cynically possibly not.
No dishonesty, just facts. Cold, Hard Facts.
- 23 June 2011 at 16:35
- Lou Baker said...
Elin is basically asking for taxpayers to subsidise small businesses because she doesn't like Tesco et al.
It is total tripe to argue that local businesses always put more money back into a community than chains. Smaller companies tend to employ fewer people, they pay those people less, they make less profit so pay lower taxes, have smaller premises so contribute less in business rates. They give less to charity and stock fewer goods, at higher prices.
None of that necessarily matters if the independent retailer is good. But, demonstrably, they are not all good. Some are but others are very, very bad.
Yes it would be lovely to have a collection of good independent retailers - and nothing else. But, as Nick said, that ain't gonna happen. And as it's not going to happen we should welcome chains opening here.
Two more points. First, Elin is totally wrong to tell you supermarkets don't know who their suppliers are. They know their suppliers, and their suppliers suppliers, and their suppliers suppliers suppliers. And they know this because food in this country has to be traceable so, in the event of problems (like E.coli) the source can be found.
Second, the anti-chain brigade - bizarrely - have no problem with the biggest chain in the country. A chain they fight tooth and nail to preserve whenever anyone suggests making it more local, more accountable to communities. A chain so vast that it monopolises one of the biggest
industries there is. A chain we all use - but which remains impersonal, distant, centralised and unaccountable. I'm talking about the NHS. A chain the hypocritical corduroy brigade always make an exception for.
- 23 June 2011 at 17:39
- Squeezed middle said...
I think you mean "hard working tax payer" At least use the correct trite label to illustrate your argument.
- 23 June 2011 at 18:04
- Anonymous said...
The NHS has nothing to do with this topic. But I realise you try and find any excuse to have a go at people.
- 23 June 2011 at 19:24
- Anonymous said...
down with chains!!! if Brockley becomes just like every other area and has just the same chains then I say down with Brockley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- 23 June 2011 at 23:24
- Anonymous said...
Is Brockley Central in favour of big business corporate power and the clone-zoning and dull homogenisation of our High Streets?
Down with chains!!!!!!!
- 23 June 2011 at 23:26
- Anonymous said...
If BC is in favour of chains...down with BC!!!
- 23 June 2011 at 23:27
- Anonymous said...
If Brockley had a Waterstone's, it would be great. The fact that it is a chain does not stop, and would not stop, me using it.
If it comes to that I'm all in favour of Weatherspoons pubs as they dispense with the horrible constant dreadful music that all the others seem to blare out constantly in order to prevent their patrons thinking (Brockley Jack excepted).
- 23 June 2011 at 23:56
- Anonymous said...
But if they had a good independent bookshop that would be 100 times better...
- 24 June 2011 at 00:23
- Anonymous said...
how long is Toad Mouth Too open for?
- 24 June 2011 at 00:24
- Anonymous said...
I know of a cafe out of London that has 2nd hand books on its shelves for sale. Good cafe/bookshop combo is possible...
- 24 June 2011 at 00:26
- Tressilliana said...
Independent booksellers, secondhand booksellers - lovely idea. People enjoy browsing in them. Then they go and buy their books from Amazon or Waterstone's because they're cheaper and/or better stocked.
We had a secondhand bookseller in Brockley, years ago. It closed.
- 24 June 2011 at 10:59
- Anonymous said...
As much as I hate to say it, there are few independent bookshops which can afford the prices and range of books that Waterstones achieve.
A secondhand bookshop would be good though if it could make ends meet, although I somehow doubt that it could. I love browsing in secondhand bookshops but the number of customers most have makes me wonder how any of them survive.
We can hope, I suppose.
- 24 June 2011 at 12:32
- Kasanova said...
"Also, given levels of unemployment in this country, I am shocked there aren't more entrepreneurs opening businesses like the successful Orchard and Browns. There has to be money to be made?" because its extremely expensive to do along with being massively time consuming and confusing.
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Ironman Boulder is sold out.
Registration for general entry to the Aug. 3, 2014, triathlon closed on Thursday night, according to race director Dave Christen.
A limited number of foundation entries, which cost $1,350, are still available. A portion of the registration fee for foundation entries is donated to charity. General entry for the 2.4-mile swim, 112-mile bike and 26.2-mile run cost $675.
Christen said this first-ever Ironman Boulder is one of the largest Ironman-affiliated races in the world. Ironman does not release an exact number of participants, Christen said, but he said the average number of athletes in other "large" races is around 2,800.
Christen said he and other Ironman officials were surprised that Ironman Boulder sold out so quickly. Registration opened for the race July 16, and general-entry spots sold out at around 6 p.m. on Thursday, Christen said.
Usually, he said, it takes about a month for new races like Ironman Boulder to sell out. Once a race becomes more established, it can sell out within days or hours, Christen said.
World Triathlon Corp., Ironman's parent company, announced in June that it would bring the full-distance Ironman race to Boulder next year. Ironman already hosts a sprint triathlon, Olympic-distance triathlon and half-Ironman in Boulder, collectively known as the Boulder Tri Series.
Organizers initially created a sense of urgency around the race, some triathletes said, implying that it would sell out within the first day or so. Many took off from work or used multiple computers to ensure they got into the race.
Susan McNamee, a 61-year-old Lafayette resident, said she waited at her computer to register the "minute" it was available.
"I thought it would sell out immediately," McNamee said. "I thought it would be within hours."
Maybe the altitude scared some triathletes away, McNamee joked.
Some in the triathlon community voiced concern about the race being too large. Luis Vargas, who will compete at Ironman Boulder next year and coaches triathletes in Boulder, said he doesn't understand why race organizers won't release the total number of participants.
Vargas said he guessed that up to 5,000 people could compete in Boulder, a number that makes him concerned about crowding in all three legs of the race. Vargas said he was most worried about the 26.2-mile run, a double-loop course along the Boulder Creek Path, which means athletes will be going in both directions along the path at times during the race.
"It's on a cement path and there are some bridges and in some areas, it's narrow," Vargas said. "You have 5,000 runners, some going that way and some going this way on the same little cement path."
Another Ironman Boulder participant and Boulder resident Wendy Sweet said there are a few spots along the 112-mile bike course that worry her. She said there's a downhill section along 83rd Street, about 25 miles into the ride, that's steep, curvy and a "little gnarly" to begin with.
Sweet pointed out that the same section of 83rd Street was the scene of an accident involving triathlete Richie Cunningham in early July. Cunningham and a few other triathletes were riding north on 83rd when a car passed them and slammed on its brakes, forcing Cunningham to brake hard. He flipped over his handlebars and broke his elbow.
Add thousands of triathletes on bikes and that stretch could be extremely dangerous, Sweet added.
Weld County resident Tricia Dixon, 41, who will participate in Ironman Boulder, had other concerns about the bike leg of the race. Dixon said many of the roads on the course are narrow or without shoulders, and some Weld County drivers don't know or choose not to obey the rules of the road when passing cyclists.
Dixon said she'd rather bring her bike to Boulder County than ride near her home in Weld County. She said she's worried that in the days leading up to the race, thousands of cyclists will ride the course, which will make some drivers and residents angry.
"Weld County people don't like athletes as it is," she said.
Race organizer Christen said he and his race staff don't have any concerns about the field being too large — Ironman organizes and successfully completes dozens of races around the world each year safely and fairly, he said.
"We feel pretty comfortable where it's at," he said. "We know where the point of congestion is. We're comfortable."
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Here is a copy of the autobiography of John Nuffer, brother to siblings Regina Wanner (my great great Grandmother) and Charles August Nuffer.
"I was born December 4, 1862 at Neuffen, Wuerttemberg, Germany, the eldest son of [John] Christopher and Agnes Barbara Spring Nuffer. After attending the common grade schools for eight years I was confirmed in the Lutheran Church, at age of thirteen years.
"I was apprenticed to an architect builder in the building trade in the city of Stuttgart where I labored with the stone cutters and masons six months in the summer time, and attended the Architectural college the six remaining months alternately for three years, when I received my diploma as a journeyman in the building trade. The following spring I emigrated with my father's family to America the first week in May 1880.
"My mother died when I was four years old. There was another boy, Fred, of the same mother, a year and a half old when she died. Father married another woman, Eva Katrina Greiner. Through her influence the family joined the Church.
"This is how the Nuffer family joined the Mormon Church:
"In the year 1879 the missionary, Henry Flam, a distant relative of the Nuffer family came to the city of Neuffen, the State of Wuerttemberg, Germany, preaching his religion to the family of John Christopher Nuffer in a cottage meeting. The following families attended the meeting: Jacob Schweitzer, Anton Lalatin, Abraham Kneiting. They all joined the Church and in 1880, immigrated to Utah, with the exception of the Kneiting family who emigrated in 1881. Now Eva Katrina Nuffer, wife of John Christopher Nuffer, being a very religious woman accepted the doctrine first, being somewhat out of harmony in her belief with the States' Kirche, (State Church), the Lutheran Church, especially on the doctrine of child baptism, vicarious atonement and the punishment for Adam's transgression. It was she who kept the doctrines before the others, so when Elder John Theurer followed Elder Henry Flam, the following year to visit them, the four families Nuffer, Schweitzer, Lalatin and Kneiting were ready to be baptized by Elder Theurer, which took place at the house of Christopher Nuffer. There was a running millrace at the rear of the house which they dammed off with planks. The baptism took place at night to keep them from disturbance, for there was much hostility in the town. The town parson especially made a tirade against it in his Sunday sermon. To avoid persecution, they decided to emigrate as soon as possible.
"They sold their holdings at once at auction sale, at a great loss to the real value. In the first days of May 1880 the three families Nuffer, Schweitzer and Lalatin left Neuffen by team to the capitol of the state, Stuttgart, from where they took the train to Mannheim (Home of Men) on the Rhine River. Here they joined a party of about thirty from Switzerland under the leadership of Elder John Theurer. From Mannheim they took two boats down the River Rhine to the North Sea. Here they took the steamer to Hull, England and then crossed England on the railroad to Liverpool. Here more Saints joined them. They left Liverpool in the company of about two hundred. After three weeks on the Atlantic Ocean they arrived in New York. From here the leaders chartered a special train which in about a weeks time went directly to Ogden, Utah, where they were royally received by some of the Saints.
"The Nuffer family then went to Logan (1880). I was baptized on the first Tuesday in August in the Blacksmith Fork River by Nicholas Summers, confirmed by John Lederman. I got a job working on the Logan Temple the first winter as a stonecutter. Father's family bought a home in Providence and settled there. The second year I worked in Salt Lake on the Deseret University building for contractor Elias Morris as a stonecutter and mason.
"In 1882 I went with Tom Ricks to Montana to do some mason work on the Great Northern Railroad. I stayed there about six months. I came back to Logan and worked on the Logan Temple helping to finish the baptismal font and helped to point (to point is to fill and finish carefully the joints with mortar) the Temple until it was finished on the outside. In the fall of 1883 I persuaded father's family to sell their home and we moved into Idaho and took up a homestead in Worm Creek, Oneida County, then called Preston, now called Glendale.
"On September 18, 1884, I married Louisa Zollinger and was sealed in the Logan Temple in 1891. She was the daughter of Ferdinand and Louisa Meier Zollinger. We lived at Glendale until the fall of 1890 when we moved to Preston, having been called by the Church to take charge and superintend the building of the Oneida Stake Academy.
"In the spring of 1895, I was called on a mission to Germany. I worked in the city of Stuttgart eleven months, presiding over that branch and baptized five persons. From there I went to Nuremberg where I labored six months. From there I was called to Mission headquarters in Bern, Switzerland, to edit the "Stern", the German edition of the Millennial Star. While there I translated B.H. Roberts' "The Gospel", and Wilford Woodruff's "Experiences", and "The Key to Theology" into the German language, which were published as serials in the "Stern".
"In the summer of 1897 I received my release and taking charge of a company of Saints, I arrived in Salt Lake the third of July and arrived at my home in Preston on the 4th of July 1897.
"After coming home I was contracting building in partnership with Joseph S. Geddes, building several residences, the Weston Tabernacle, The First Ward chapel, and several school houses and other buildings. After that I opened an architect office and planned most of the older business blocks, the Opera House, State Bank building, the Oneida Stake Science building and several other school buildings outside of Preston at McCammon and Grace.
"When Preston was organized into a village I served four years as a village trustee, and two years as village clerk until Preston was organized into a city.
"Eleven children were born to us: Luther Jacob, John Willard, Louis Ferdinand, Herman Christopher, Austin Ekert, Karl Aaron, Agnes Louise, Myron David, Florence Myrtle, Edwin Joseph and Athene Barbara.
"The foregoing was told to Jennie Smart Nuffer
September 1938
John Nuffer raised apples for many years. His orchard was located at the family home East on Fourth South Street. When he retired from public office, he continued to look after his fruit raising as well as dairy cattle. He was very proud of the fine fruit he raised and never over-charged for his produce. His health failed very fast following the death of his wife on October 1945 and he followed her in death on June 4, 1946. He was buried in the Preston Cemetery. He was a High Priest.


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After working at Parks for thirteen years, Swett left in 2001 to pursue a career as a freelance photographer but continued to photograph New York City's urban forest, fascinated by the connections between trees and the city's history. "We know that trees improve living conditions in cities by filtering and cooling the air, absorbing excess rainwater, and making neighborhoods more attractive," writes Swett. "But little has been said about the importance of trees as keepers of a city's past. The aim in taking these pictures—aside from taking the best photographs I could—was to try to bring back into focus an aspect of the city that most people tend to take for granted until something happens to it. The idea has been to remind New Yorkers how much of their own lives and the lives of neighbors these trees quietly contain."
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Youkilis doubled to start the second and Beltre brought him in with a one-out sac fly to deep center.
The bottom of the order got to Beckett in the fourth. Cano doubled and two outs later, Swisher walked. Then Gardner and Jeter singled -- and pulled somewhat of a surprise double steal. Beckett couldn't get the third out in the fifth and was pulled with two men on: 4.2-8-5-3-1, 94/54.
Two-out singles -- all crisp line drives -- by Drew, Cameron, and Scutaro brought in a fifth-inning run. An error moved the runners up, but Ellsbury struck out looking with runners at second and third. CC lost his command in the sixth. FY walked, Victor doubled into the left field corner, and Yook smoked a triple over Swisher's head into the right field corner. With one out, Beltre's single to Cano's right tied the game at 5-5. But New York came right back in the seventh. Ramirez put two guys on and Okajima let them come around to score.
The Sox took the lead after the stretch. Scutaro singled off Park and Pedroia homered to left. When Yook doubled, Marte came in and wild pitched him to third. Then Dumbo's passedballa (!!) gave Boston its first lead of the night.
In the eighth, Bard allowed a two-out walk, but retired Teixeira on an FC. In the home half against Joba, Cameron singled with one out and Scutaro walked. With two outs, Pedroia singled to right to make it 9-7.
In the ninth, Papelbon retired Slappy and Cano, then allowed a two-out single to Dumbo. He got Granderson to ground to third for the final out.
Beckett, RamRam and maybe Jeemer were shaky, and there were no real fielding gems. Damn shame we can't hit/score.
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On the surface, 2013 appeared to be a quiet year in terms of language popularity and adoption. The reality, however, suggest considerable activity. As I usually do in January, I analyze several language metrics from multiple sources: Ohloh.net, which measures activity across almost 600,000 open-source projects, Google Trends, and the much maligned Tiobe index. At first blush, there appears to be no change in this year's figures. The latter index, for example, shows that the top eight spots (starting at #1: C, Java, Objective-C, C++, C#, PHP, Visual Basic, and Python, respectively) were exactly the same as last year. But looking deeper, we see…
JavaScript took the ninth slot, which was vacated by Perl, when it dropped four places. The fall of Perl has been going on for a long time and seems now to be accelerating. Despite great affection for Perl, there is no doubt that Python is safely the top general-purpose scripting language. Not only is Python blessed with a large and active community, but this community has by its sheer size and constant contribution to open source overcome the last notable advantage Perl enjoyed: CPAN the rich trove of modules. The following chart, courtesy of Ohloh, shows the number of projects with activity per month for the two languages (Python in purple, Perl in khaki).
Figure 1: Python projects active in a given month vs. Perl for 590,000 open source projects.
While Python crossed over Perl some six years ago, it took several more years for its libraries to catch up with CPAN. I believe it's fair to say that point has passed, or if it has not, that it's close enough that CPAN's differentiators are so small as to confer no particular competitive advantage to Perl.
By all measures, C++ use declined last year, demonstrating that C++11 was not enough to reanimate the language's fortunes, despite the significant benefits it provides. I have previously opined that Microsoft's contention of a return to native languages being led by C++ was unsupported by evidence. It is now clearly contradicted by the evidence.
Part of C++'s decline might be due to the emergence of competing native languages. D, designed by Dr. Dobb's blogger Walter Bright, made a surprising leap in to 18th position on Tiobe. The adoption of D at Facebook for new projects might be part of the explanation. But D is by no means alone. Google's Go, which we covered in a five-part tutorial in 2012, has been quickly gaining traction as shown in Figure 2.
Figure 2: Monthly open-source commits for Go.
While D was designed as a replacement for C++, and Go for C, not everyone is enamored of Google's approach in Go. The disenchanted are increasingly finding comfort in Mozilla's Rust and Nimrod (a language we'll cover later this month in Dr. Dobb's). Rust is widely viewed as a remarkably elegant language, but adoption is hindered by the changes made in each new release. I expect activity will pick up when the language reaches 1.0 (likely this year). Nimrod, in counterpoint, is stable and presents a most original design that straddles Pascal and Python and compiles to C code or JavaScript. As you can see, there are a lot of potential challengers to C++, although only D, at present, can be credibly said to be eating mindshare. However, I expect that the tepid numbers for C++ derive more from its minor presence in the mobile space, which is unarguably the center of new development.
Mobile programming kept Objective-C advancing and it limited Java's decline. The latter was surely due to the language falling out of fashion, especially among hobbyists, and the pressure exerted by other JVM languages, notably Groovy, JRuby, Scala, and Clojure. JavaScript continued surging forward, driven by its use both in mobile products and Web app development.
If I were to guess the next language to get a bump up, I would vote for C#. It has steadily eaten away almost all of VB.NET's turf and, with the recent work by Xamarin, C# might well become the .NET developer's language of choice for mobile. We'll certainly see.
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Do you hear them? I do. It's the collective groan of gardeners across the country desperate to eat, cook, and preserve their stockpiles of late summer vegetables and herbs such as corn, tomatoes, peppers, zucchini, and basil.
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2 teaspoons olive oil
1 yellow onion, chopped (about 1 cup)
3 carrots, thinly sliced (about 1 cup)
3 celery stalks, thinly sliced (about 1 cup)
1 red bell pepper, diced
1 medium zucchini, sliced into half moons, about 11/2- 2 cups
4 1/2 cups low-sodium vegetable broth
1 ear sweet corn, kernels removed from the cob (about 1 cup)
2 cups sliced green beans (about 4 ounces)
1 cup halved cherry tomatoes
Salt and pepper, to taste
Shredded parmesan cheese, optional
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Cilantro Pesto recipe from Whipped
Individual Pesto Lasagnas recipe from Food Blogga
Lemon and Almond Basil Pesto recipe from Cookin' Canuck
Pasta with Arugula Pesto and Tomatoes recipe from Food Blogga
Foil Baked Salmon with Basil Pesto and Tomatoes recipe from Kalyn's Kitchen
Rigatoni with Walnut, Parsley, and Sun-Dried Tomato Pesto recipe from Food Blogga