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100 Miles on the Danube
junction where the Danube Canal meets the Danube River proper.
congrats! Every century from here on in will be a breeze!ReplyDelete
Well done! I know what you're saying about pedaling with no breaks. The two centuries I've done were down on the coast of Georgia (USA), where the biggest "hill" is when you have to ride over a bridge. But since I'm better at pedaling on flats than on hills, that worked for me.ReplyDelete
Wow! Congratulations! What an accomplishment! And how fun to have such a great story about your first century! (Much better than some boring ol' club ride, done the "normal" way, with no adventure or surprise.) My favorite part was the old man showing you back to the path. :-)
On a separate note, I have to shout out to all of your L.A. readers. A Lovely Bicycle Bella Ciao Superba is at Flying Pigeon right now! Just came in this week and it does not disappoint. I was in there yesterday and gave it a test ride. It's awesome! And so, so beautiful! Go check it out!
Anon - Neat, but what on earth is a Superba doing there? Is it the one from the fashion show?ReplyDelete
Wow! Excellent narrative. I know Vienna well - and was there this summer to discover that the cycling scene is absolutely growing in leaps and bounds! Thank you for the wonderful snapshot of pedaling in Austria.ReplyDelete
I was just reading your "to do" list for 2011 yesterday. Congratulations on scratching off another item.ReplyDelete
I have no idea how it got there and was just as surprised as you to see it in the window. (It's also featured in Josef's weekly video blog on the Flying Pigeon website, if you're curious.) FP also got a couple of Pilens and a Bella Ciao men's bike -- with the duomatic hub -- in the same shipment. That's one of the cool things about Flying Pigeon -- you never know what you're going to find there!ReplyDelete
Thanks everyone : )
Mason - I'd forgotten about that!!
Anon - Okay, it must be the one from the Interbike fashion show, since the distributor took it afterwards. I would like to note that Flying Pigeon does not carry the Superba model except for this one bike, and that officially they are available at Harris Cyclery in Boston only. This batch at least. If there is another batch in future that may change.
That is definitely not the easiest way to ride your first century, in the cold and on an upright bike. It also seems wrong to ride your first century in a country that uses the metric system.
Try it again on a touring bike in better weather and it'll be a cinch. You're ready for your first brevet. Look up your local randonneur club and come out for a 200 in the spring. The time limit for a 200 is 13:30; you were on pace to beat that. What's an extra 40 km?
I went Friday afternoon to Flying Pigeon and test rode the Superba and Pilen. Here's the video of the inventory at FP.
BTW, the FP was hopping with customers. Lots of nice bike accessories were being purchased while I was there.
Go Flying Pigeon!
I am glad to hear that Flying Piegon is doing well. They are like a beacon of light in LA. I also enjoyed meeting the owner at Interbike. Is my "summertime" poster hanging there by any chance? You will now what I mean if it is.ReplyDelete
Congratulations. No toeclips, either. My first century one of my toeclips broke around mile 75 and I discovered that I could barely keep my foot on the pedal.
I recall, in my second century, that the day after I was sitting in geometry class and feeling a little draggy, and experimentally taking my pulse, and it was 40. Tha-dup...............Tha-dup...............Tha-dup. (My pulse is normally to the high side of normal, even then.)
Closest I've come since then was a metric century on a cargo bike. Attention to food and hydration (not something teenagers are terribly good at) made it much more bearable.
Amazing. I do like the way that you went about it. On that kind of bike, in your outfit, with that scenery. Way to work through all the hiccups on the ride make a truly memorable experience.ReplyDelete
Is my "summertime" poster hanging there by any chance? You will now what I mean if it is.
Uh oh. You are asking the most unobservant person. My eyes zoom to the bikes and then to the accessories. I know I've seen posters and artwork on the walls, but what exactly, I can't remember.
You are Superwoman!ReplyDelete
Congratulations on your first century! How very exciting, and although it sounds like it wasn't what you imagined for your first, I'm sure you'll never forget it.ReplyDelete
An adventure of the best kind -- those that depart from the expected are those longest and best remembered, I think. Well told too! Congratulations!ReplyDelete
Congrats Velouria! Such an inspiration and wonderful photos :)ReplyDelete
Oh man, a Pilen & a LB Bella Ciao at Flying Pigeon? I was just thinking last night that I wished I could test both those. Guess where I'm spending next Saturday.ReplyDelete
First of all, congratulations on the ride, and your writing of the experience. Very enjoyable post.
So what did you think of the 7 speed neorealista? It is probably just the configuration that would most interest me from Bella Ciao, except probably diamond frame.
My first century was totally unplanned--it was the day we biked into Edmonton. I did not intend for my first century to be on a loaded touring bike, but hey!
I actually *was* wrecked the next day.
I'm always slightly amused when I think I'm super-tired and then I realize I was just starving.
And yeah, flat? Not as easy as you always hope. Unless you have a good tailwind. I prefer gentle rollers.
Congratulations on a mind-over-body victory!
You mention taking "a bottle of apple juice mixed with mineral water and salt". I've not heard of this concoction before, would you share your recipe?
Congratulations and what a bike to do a first century upon. Obviously your clothing was suitable for the expected weather. I have always viewed you as a photographer to emulate, now you become a cyclist to emulate. Thanks for your excellent blog write up. Cheers.ReplyDelete
Bravo. Well done indeed.
That point in the narrative where you mention highest possible gear - it might have been the best thing at the moment, I wasn't there - generally using a low gear gets the blood moving and makes you warm. The sure way to get warm is to get off the bike and run 100 meters or so.
Late in a ride it becomes hard to keep the legs moving quickly. Once legspeed is gone, it's gone, so distance riders work to keep the gears down.
Pretty cool accomplishment but I really thought you'd be talking about it for a few more years before pulling it off. Don't worry about the pictures of you, we know what you look like. This is not a criticism leveled at you but at self-documentation in general.
But in that giant bag did not reside any food? 4pm for the first after breakfast meal is too late and no, soup does not count. Rando notes for the future: real food for a real ride and eat on the bike before you're hungry. Then pig out as needed.
Congratulations! Full on adventure mode as well. Don't forget the food on your next century!!!ReplyDelete
Sounds like an amazing ride! Loved reading about it. As someone who rides her upright bike pretty far sometimes (no more than 30 or so miles at a time right now), I find that 100 mile mark impressive! And cold, too? Amazing. I liked the pictures, but I know what you mean about needing to just GO.ReplyDelete
Congrats Velouria! I loved reading this post - what an adventure!ReplyDelete
" . . .which means that my average speed was 11.75 mph. I think that's not too bad for being on an upright bike . . ." ~ I think it's pretty bloomin' impressive :) Congrats!ReplyDelete
congrats as well! and I had to smile when I read the bit about how low your spirits were at Traismauer and I thought to myself, "she probably just needs a bit of food." Then I chuckled when you wrote about finding the cafe. In the New England randonneuring scene we have something of a motto varying around, "never quit a ride on an empty stomach." have a bit to eat. sit down. then see how you feel. It's amazing how your mood can be improved with a bit of food and a bit of a break.
I just spent the past four days and three nights on a solo backpack through the Berkshires, and there were certainly some days where I needed to hustle to cover ground in daylight. So I was also running into that guilt around walking past some scenic sights but not having the time to document them. I can at least say that I'm not nearly as good at taking photos as you are so I probably would've made a hash out of the snapshots anyway.
Congrats lovely pictures you got to. I hope on doing my first century in the springReplyDelete
As Ben said check out your local Randonneuring club and go on some rides. I'm sure the next thing you know you'll be looking to finish your first SR or R-12 series.
Though I would recommend doing any further distance riding 200k or over on your Rivendell or Royal H. Mixte.
Congrats!!! I think doing a century on a semi-upright bike with limited hand positions made it more like a 120-130 miler. Next time, if you do the same ride on a road bike, it might seem like a mere jaunt.ReplyDelete
I'm also curious to know what you think of the Neorealista; I've been considering (/dreaming) of buying that model from Bella Ciao. I'd have to get it imported (there are no Bella Ciao distributors in the southern hemisphere) and besides probably costing a small fortune, I wouldn't get a chance to test ride it!ReplyDelete
Well done, and what style!
I tried a metric century the other day but went home on the train before finishing. It was cold and raining when I bought the ticket, but it cleared up as we pulled out of the station. Perserverance... Oh well, I had some chocolate and an apple on the train and the short ride home felt just like usual.
You might like this video of a little guy (girl?) whose legs go round on autopilot:
Congratulations on a huge achievement. Very inspirational.
I have found after a big effort in a race in days past that I would suffer more with tiredness a few days after the event, the adrenalin rush from completing it kept me going the first few days. I hope you recover well and do it again.
" I really thought you'd be talking about it for a few more years before pulling it off"
Sorry to disappoint! But now there will be the double century to talk about.
Re food: I ate breakfast at 6:30am, soup (which in Vienna is very caloric) at 12:00, and a kebab foodstand thingie at 3:30pm. Felt like a good distribution.
somervillain - I don't know, part of me feels like I "cheated" by doing it here, wheareas in Boston I would have serious hills and also more car traffic to contend with. Route planning is also a lot easier in Vienna. It may sound implausible, but it's mostly the logistics of route planning and the daunting prospect of high-traffic stretches that have prevented me from doing it back home.ReplyDelete
Isobel said...
"I'm also curious to know what you think of the Neorealista"
Well, the way I understand it, what distinguishes the Neorealista from the regular Corvo Citta model is really just the colours and accessories, because it is available both in standard and in Columbus tubing.
As far as colours and accessories, I like them. The "blue vetro" colour (this bike here) is more green in real life than it appears on their site; I actually like it better in person. It is metallic, which is very difficult to achieve with powdercoat, and overall impressive. The silver and chapmagne colours ("grigio tempesta" and "sabbia frizzante") are less striking, more subtle, not as shimmery.
As far as ride quality, the bike with the kickback hub I rode earlier was the version with the standard cromoly tubing. It felt just like my revamped Corvo Citta bike at home. The bike shown here is made with Columbus Thron tubing and feels noticeably lighter, even with the heavy 7-speed hub.
I may upgrade my own bike to the Columbus tubing version later; I prefer it. The Superba has the Columbus tubing as well.
I was charmed by your post. Such panache to achieve your first hundy in woolens on a city bike riding through the Old Country.ReplyDelete
congratulations. - we are honoured this milestone ride was on a bella ciao.ReplyDelete
Do you think there is something special about the Bella Ciao bike's geometry that made this ride possible or could you have done it on any 3-speed?ReplyDelete
Re food: I ate breakfast at 6:30am, soup (which in Vienna is very caloric) at 12:00, and a kebab foodstand thingie at 3:30pm. Felt like a good distribution.
That doesn't sound anywhere close to enough for a day-long ride. Assuming more or less regular exertion throughout your ride, I've learned (and experienced) that caloric replenishment is necessary on an hourly basis. For me and my 160lb, I find I need about 250-300 calories for every 15 miles in addition to regular meals if exerting myself to sustain an average of about 13-14mph. If slower, I need less energy replenishment, obviously. But add that up, and a century done at 15mph means an additional 2000 calories above what I would normally eat in a day, or close to double! And I'll still be hungry for days after a ride like that. Obviously everyone is different, but there are probably some sites out there that help people figure out some optimal range for energy replenishment depending on their riding style, weight, etc...
Anon - It was a 7-speed actually, not a 3-speed. But you probably meant "on any upright bike."
Anyhow, I think what Bella Ciao did right with their frames was not mess up a classic design. I am pretty confident that I could have done this same ride on a vintage Raleigh Sports, or on Jacqueline for that matter (only with a leather saddle, because her current one starts to hurt after 20-40 miles). Also remember Katy Doncaster's tour on her Pashley. With a relatively flat landscape, the rules of the game are different. It still does not mean that you can ride any old bike (I damaged my knees after riding a modern upright bike 50 miles in 2009), but it does mean that weight and aggressive positioning matter a lot less.
somervillain - Umm... What can I say, I did the ride and felt fine; didn't "bonk" either. Had another snack at night when I went out, but that would probably not add up to your requirement anyhow. My riding style was probably a great deal more leisurely than yours and I have fewer muscles to feed than you do. As you said, everyone is different. I don't think that stuffing oneself just because of cycling is always the best policy.ReplyDelete
@somervillain - old rule of thumb (which I've seen ruled differently since, but not by much) is 50 kCal per mile. Some of that is devoted to your baseline (75-100 per hour). So figure 4000 extra calories, not 2000. We did a 7-day 300 mile ride with a bunch of boy scouts some years back (with a rest day in the middle) and at a mere 50miles/day, everyone's food consumption was really impressive, along the lines of telling the kids at an ice cream stand, "just try any flavor that looks interesting, if it turns you don't like it, I'll eat it and we can buy another." And towards the end, all food looked fantastically enticing.ReplyDelete
At the risk of contributing to a food argument, I will say this: This calorie per mile counting/ scientific approach stuff is why so many people find the prospect of long rides daunting. Unless you have a certain time limit in mind and are doing it in a "performance" fashion, I honestly don't think it matters.
Get on a bike, ride 50 miles, then turn around and ride 50 miles home. In the middle of it stop to eat somewhere. That's all that's really necessary for a 100 mile ride, I feel - if one is okay with a leisurely, take-your-time sort of ride. And many are.
There are different styles of riding is all.
Referring to figure 11.1 in Fred DeLong's old book, Bicycles and Bicycling, a 3spd bike at 12mph requires power of about 0.13 horsepower. The same power output on a race bike gets 17mph.
We don't have a photo of the costume you wore, the description makes it sound anti-aerodynamic to an extreme. Even at 12mph bulky clothes are a significant wind drag. So something more than 0.13hp. You were doing a stiff ride for a lot of hours.
Congratulations. Nice to do it in such pretty country, too bad about the weather.ReplyDelete
@V, at your measured pace (11mph), Bicycling Science (3ed, p. 154) puts you at about 25 kcal/mi incremental on a "roadster", so 2500 total. Maybe less because you are smaller (lighter, less frontal area).
In hindsight, you can say "ride out, eat, ride back", but you figured that out by accident after feeling really down. The food math is not supposed to intimidate, it's supposed to help people understand that a leisurely hundred or a fast fifty will double their food needs for that day, without doing it the hard way first.
dr2chase - Actually, I ate (1) before the ride, (2) at mile 25, (3) at mile 60, and (4) after the ride.
And I don't think feeling tired & low in spirits after mile 60 in sub-40F temps is an indication that I did anything wrong. It would have been rather unusual not to get tired at that point no matter how much food I ate.
I am not saying that anyone here is incorrect, only that it really is different for everyone and for different kinds of rides. It just strikes me odd that people were so quick to tell me I did not eat right, when I did the ride and felt fine.
This calorie per mile counting/ scientific approach stuff is why so many people find the prospect of long rides daunting. Unless you have a certain time limit in mind and are doing it in a "performance" fashion, I honestly don't think it matters.
This was generally my experience before doing brevets. No schedule or math or looking at packages to gauge calories per serving. Just eat when you're hungry and drink when you're thirsty. While I do try to maintain a regimen for 'official' timed rides ... on more casual rides, I still keep things generally informal.
One thing that I have changed, though, is that I will always pack some food to consume while riding, because my experience has been that one often cannot reliably schedule hunger to coincide with when one arrives at a town or a deli or a country store. So, from that point of view, it is still somewhat handy to at least pay attention to what one likes to eat when on these excursions and to be flexible. It might certainly be reasonable to think that you can ride 50 miles in one direction before needing to eat, but you should also be prepared for the possibility that you'll get hungry at mile 30 (either because of a late start or a subpar breakfast or headwinds, etc.) and have something to address that rather than deal with one to two hours of steadily decreasing blood sugar, mood and attention.
So, no, you don't have to maintain an eating schedule and weigh yourself at the end of the ride to calculate hydration losses to have a good time on a century. But it's certainly a more enjoyable experience after you develop an understanding of how your body processes food on these long aerobic excursions and can anticipate how to stave off bouts of hangriness*
* my new favorite term -- conflation of hunger and anger. ie. "I'm sorry about getting impatient back there. I had to skip breakfast because of sleeping through my alarm, and I'm feeling kind of hangry right now. I need an apple."
As one who grew up on the often very foggy and clammy-wet Northern California coast, and currently lives in a Redwood grove, I understand and sympathize with anyone facing sub-40 temps, mist, and low visibility.
Welcome to the Mystical Order Of The Soggy Socks, sister!
"We don't have a photo of the costume you wore, the description makes it sound anti-aerodynamic to an extreme. Even at 12mph bulky clothes are a significant wind drag. So something more than 0.13hp. You were doing a stiff ride for a lot of hours."
Madame V is probably a lot stronger than she thinks.
I wasn't aware that Bella Ciao was doing a Columbus frame. Talk about icing on the cake.
It sounds like a really nice ride.
Corey K
(Turing word: "Phooll". How'd they know?)
Corey - I had not realised before that fog can appear in the middle of the day. I'd always thought fog as something that happens in the night/early morning, then dissipates.ReplyDelete
"We don't have a photo of the costume you wore, the description makes it sound anti-aerodynamic to an extreme"
This was the actual costume; only the picture was taken the day before. Add a scarf as well. So my street clothes basically. I wore it not because I was trying to be eccentric, but because it really was freezing.
The coat was the most non-aerodynamic article, because the bottoms of the coat tails flapped open in the wind like sails. It was okay though, I never planned on going very fast.
dr2chase said...
"No toeclips, either. My first century one of my toeclips broke around mile 75 and I discovered that I could barely keep my foot on the pedal."
I hate riding roadbikes without foot retention (which to me = Power Grips); I'd probably go mad with annoyance. But on an upright bike it's a totally different feeling; I had no problem with that aspect.
@V - lack of power and feeling done in by cold are all part of the need-to-eat package. It sounds like needed-to-eat-sooner. We had a lot of that with the boy scouts on that long trip at first -- not only do young boys have high-revving engines, they are also often lipidically challenged, unlike most of their parents.ReplyDelete
Let me quote you:
"Turned out that I wasn't so much tired as just very hungry. Once I inhaled whatever it was that I bought at the food stand, my attitude suddenly improved and by 4pm I was ready to get back on the bike."
This is the definition of a bonk.
Once again, since you hadn't ridden this far you believe you know what's best but obviously it wasn't.
You'll either choose to remember this thread on your double or ignore it but the advice about food is valid.
Regardless you'll change your mind once you bonk a few more times.
You've got a lot to learn about nutrition for a long ride.
Anecdotally I bonked yesterday having not eaten enough as well.
It'll happen occasionally.
I won't get into an argument about food consumption because, 1) because everyone's needs are different, and 2) because food consumption is always a hot button topic, but I do want to reply to your comment:
I don't think that stuffing oneself just because of cycling is always the best policy.
Whoa. Sorry, but as worded that's a reckless misinterpretation of what I was said. Nowhere did I suggest that anyone 'stuff themselves'. Rather, I was relaying my own experience as simply desiring a food break every hour or so, or 15 miles, a practice which fits very reasonably within a general consensus within the cycling community (and my estimates, frankly, were conservative compared to those of dr2chase). I don't think anyone can misconstrue what I said as 'stuffing oneself', which as worded implies eating like a pig in some hedonistic, over-indulgent manner. Sorry, but I'm a little offended :(.
Congratulations on the century Velouria! And on a loaner, too. I don' think I'll get my first in this year; somehow, I just cant consider the metric I did in September to be a real century.
Next time remember the Boy Scout '10 Essentials'... lol!
Like they say either it's a great trip or a great story.
This one seemed like a bit of both.
Thanks for sharing..
That photo of your riding costume looks a lot like how I ride my DL-1 in the dead of winter. If I assemble a tweedy version of riding kit I can ride along at 20mph, even sit on pace at 22-23mph without much difficulty. Same bike wearing a topcoat top speed is 15mph. Faster feels like sprinting into a wall. Any headwind is felt immediately. In a stiff headwind walking speed is it. You did very well. Yes, street clothes can be quite practical for riding in the cold.ReplyDelete
Nice! I think you just won your own ride report contest.ReplyDelete
Congratulations miss v. I recently did a 1000 mile tour and after the first few days I discovered that I only needed about 4000 kcal a day as opposed to 6000 plus early on. Good luck. Really love the blogReplyDelete
Outstanding HTFU Velouria! Your readership is proud of you.ReplyDelete
This is a great tale, and I think it's inspired me to do my own Century on the W&OD, out and back from Shirlington to Purcelville, plus a little Custis or MVT to round it out, since I couldn't make either of the organized rides I'd had my sights on.
Congrats! Now all we need is to score the above photos to music and you're all set. Start with Mary Poppins, seque into Rod Serling...
You absolutely kick ass. I like the fact that you did it yourself without 500 other riders and just decided to go ride your bike for 100 miles.
Anyway, It's not like you were unprepared or without plans for "what if" and even if you weren't on a 17 pound rondo bike you WERE riding a genuine "REAL" bike. I've done big multi-day group rides and centuries and even one double and I like 'em, but it stops being a day on my bike and becomes more like a Military Exercise. I think that I get more tired and sore cutting firewood or stretching barb wire for 10 hours than I do riding 100plus, but when I know I have to do that for a whole day I don't spend 3 weeks psyching myself up for it. If one wants or needs to ride ones bike for 100 miles or whatever, than just getting on and trying to make it happen seems like a pretty reasonable approach.
I've done some really long rides(no "incidental" centuries though) in interesting places because it was just too nice a day to let the opportunity get away. I'm going to remember your Austrian adventure and use it to remind myself that that bike can take me to some pretty special places if I just don't get off it so soon.
Seriously, congrats!ReplyDelete
I was telling one of my coworkers who will be going to Vienna in December about your ride. He told me that he actually met his wife while bike riding in Vienna. He also told me about the interesting Spas in Vienna. Not that I would recommend them, but thank goodness you weren't sore the next day :). Congrats on completing your first century.ReplyDelete
I find that a kid's Cliff bar in Chocolate Brownie flavor is just right in a saddlebag. Not too many calories, won't spoil your dinner, and picks up my energy nicely. It also tastes surprisingly like an actual chocolate brownie, which is a plus.
I also like a drink with some caloric value (read: peach Snapple iced tea), so that I'm getting a little zap of calories as I go. Sounds like you had that with the apple juice, though.
The Manly Man I Ride With needs a huge amount of protein to function as a human being. Like tons. Could not be a vegetarian and be a nice person, tons. I like carbs, and find them more helpful. Last year I read an article in the NY Times about how some folks, particularly men, need more protein when they burn calories, and some folks, particularly women, need more carbs. Whatever works, you know? But I do agree that snacks are good to have along. Of course, I'm also hypoglycemic, so if I don't bring snacks, I could pass out, which makes it harder to find a cafe!
Congratulations! While I know you didn't ride in street clothes to make any sort of statement, I still think that the clothes (and fog, and the upright bike) make your story even better.ReplyDelete
somervillain - Sorry, the stuffing comment was a general one, not aimed at you. There is this idea in roadcycling culture that cyclists ought to eat as much as possible during rides, which I happen to disagree with.ReplyDelete
How fun. Sounds like you had a great ride. I've always thought that disagreeable weather makes the experience more tragically epic, which although unpleasant at the time, it does create fonder romantic memories than the more pleasant varieties of epic.
For the ride you did it perhaps isn't of critical importance, but the food question is a good one. Although everyone is different, they aren't that different. During an endurance ride, glycogen exhaustion is an inevitability and what, how much, and when you eat affects the performance of your mind and body, and your ability to recover. No matter how you slice it it's a game of diminishing returns, and that's the same for everyone.
A rider who is more diligent about refueling, as some above have suggested, will maintain better and recover quicker and better, and would complete the task sooner, and be able to reasonably repeat the process for several or many more days. A rider who isn't eating enough and at the right times will be digging too deep into deficits that mount steadily, recovery is poor, and (if not during the 100) by the second or third day they are shot. You weren't in a hurry and don't have to go out and do it again the next day so I guess you can burn down the house, so to speak, and it doesn't much matter. Depending on circumstances I've approached it both ways myself.
" It's not like you were unprepared or without plans for 'what if' "
Right. I probably should have made it more clear that I knew where all the train stations were and there were opportunities to cut the trip short every 10-15 miles had I chosen to. Also, there were opportunities to buy food every 2-5 miles except for one particularly desolate 10 mile stretch between Tulln and Traismauer. I had known that as well, which is why I did not bother packing food.
WOW! You earned my respect and admiration (which you already had,BTW,having read through lots of your lovely blog :) )! I've never ridden a century,though have often thought about doing one. Actually,my longest recorded ride (one I kept stats on) is a metric half century,LOL!
I think it was an awesome and inspriring read,not even considering the style of bike and clothing worn. Congradulations on this accomplishment,my friend! Hoping to try my first century by Spring :D
Forgive me if I've asked this already in one of your previous posts concerning Bella Ciaos, but would you say the Neorealista in this configuration is significantly lighter than a Pashley Princess Sovereign (I know, the Pashley has more accessories on it contributing to the weight).
- Dagmara
Great report and pictures. Thanks.ReplyDelete
And more food comments - always a bar of chocolate, a few hardboiled eggs, a can of sardines in olive oil, dates, brazil nuts. I do find that there are some rides wherein I eat a lot, have to stop, and some where I just fly along (and these are long rides - 50 - 75 - 100+ miles). Might depend on the amt of activity in prior days too. But I always like knowing I have something in the bag. And even though there are often places along the way to buy stuff...it's usually not ideal / or is too "snackish" - hence I pack my high lipid / high protein / good tasting stuff.
Congratulations on Century # 1, many more are sure to follow! I think it is waaaaaay harder to do a flat ride. I cannot stand to be on the bike any longer at mile 50 of a flat ride, so the remainder is pure torture. I love hills, bring 'em on! Super job! CheersReplyDelete
Great ride, great story! I must try one day. Could you plse tell us, is that a B17? I did quite a long ride on a B72 some months back. Found I had some problems becouse the saddle was so wide. Could be my handlebars was not high enough. I still REALLY like this bike.
Dagmara - The Bella Ciao is much lighter. The Pashely is around 50lb; this bike is around 30lb.ReplyDelete
Yes!!!!! Sardines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I has?!??!?! I just did a century too.ReplyDelete
Late to the party but I just wanted to say congrats! I'm all the more amazed by the fact that you accomplished this on a bike you hadn't ridden before - though it is similar to your bella ciao at home. Did you switch out the seat for one you had previously broken in?ReplyDelete
very cool. If I do a century I like the way you did it- ( perhaps without the cold and fog) but the being alone and just going and eating. sounds like a great adventure. It's also such a great feeling to do something like that and wake up feeling fine.ReplyDelete
Looking at your Danube photos with Ana, very nice. Just wondered why most of your bikes are without side stands ? so useful, no throwing the bike on the ground. The bikes are much more attractive free standing in photos too.ReplyDelete
Anon - The bicycles in the Danube photos with Ana (she has a Retrovelo and I was on Jacqueline) have kickstands, but we put them down on the grass anyway. Sometimes the bikes get tired. The Bella Ciao shown here does not have a kickstand; they don't like to use them. However, I did install a kickstand on my own Bella Ciao bike.
lynn - I rode on the stock, new Brooks B17S saddle the bike came with. In the upright sitting position it did not give me the same pain in the you-know-what that I've experienced with the B17S on road bikes. For city riding, I feel the B17S not wide enough and under-sprung. I also find it kind of uncomfortable to mount and dismount in the upright position: It just doesn't feel like there is "enough saddle" there. But for the long ride where I hardly got off the bike and had the handlebars quite low, it wasn't bad. The layer of felt wool coat under my butt could have helped too. My butt did hurt a little the next day, but just a little.
This is a beautiful bike-- my dream bike, honestly! :) How much do the Neorealista's with 7 speeds run for-- $2K? $2.5K?ReplyDelete
Brittney - Contact the US distributor at will(at)boxcycles(dot)com re US pricing and availability.ReplyDelete
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Seamus76 wrote:I'm not sure if you have addressed this since I last brought it up a while ago, but tell me again why on Austrum are the ships in the legend different then on the map?
Gillipig wrote:I'm worried about how frequently players will drop a bonus. It's the one thing that can really sink an otherwise awesome map. Have you checked how frequently someone would drop a bonus? (1v1 in particular)
Right, I get that for sure. Let me rephrase. The ones in the legend are overall cleaner and clearer, you can see very well the nice little red flags which you can not see on the ones on the map. I don't have to tell you, you know, the map looks wonderful as is, it's just my opinion that the ships on the map should look EXACTLY like the ships in the legend, because the ships in the legend look better to me. I promise not to bring it up again after this though.koontz1973 wrote:Seamus76 wrote:I'm not sure if you have addressed this since I last brought it up a while ago, but tell me again why on Austrum are the ships in the legend different then on the map?
They are not. I said it last time. All I did was copy and paste the ships from the map to the legend. I had to bring them out more as the background is a lot darker than the sea and where hard to see and people where missing the connection between Exploratorium and ships. But pixel for pixel, they are identical is size and shape.
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Funkyterrance wrote:This looks to be really similar to the Classic Cities Moscow map. Which came first?
thenobodies80 wrote:The only thing I have to complain about are bridges. They don't look all the same.
Some of them are really nice, soft and they fit perfectly with the colors on the map, like these:
Instead some others (i.e those in the middle of the Vertex map) are sharped and with strong dark borders....
I really prefer the soft bridges and I suggest to make all them in that way...if i'm not wrong is just redraw the black outline so it isn't a so big amount of work.
Moreover look at the 2 screenshot i posted here, it seems they are 2 different maps and the reason are only bridges.
Same for Austrum (but it's less noticeable), where apart bridges you can also refine a bit the river borders in the middle:
Look at the bridge and the river between Aegina and Leros. If you can make all them look like those, then it would be great.
So, apart for these minor things I do not see anything else wrong.
ManBungalow wrote:You could redo the text in the legend (corners) on the small versions, just to make it a little bit bigger/more legible, and there's space available there (in the circles).
ManBungalow wrote:*and only the ends - just where the black line is - the bridge still needs to 'land on' each region, not just cover the gap of the water
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When feeling angry, it is common to think that the situation is a lot worse than it really is. You may interpret missing your flight, for example, as a catastrophe. This perspective, though, can make you feel angrier. Instead, ask yourself what you hope to achieve. For example, is your goal to arrive at your destination safely? If so, focus on steps that you can take to make that happen, like finding out if you can get on the next flight. Also, it is helpful to use sound logic to think through the situation. For example, no one is trying to sabotage your trip. Delays and cancellations happen to everyone and are due to a variety of factors, like weather conditions and mechanical problems.
Work Hard to Solve the Problem
People who are good problem solvers are able to zero in on the situation at hand and analyze it from a number of different angles. If you want to move away from being angry and move toward finding a solution, try this approach:
Set Aside Time to Talk
Are you having a conflict with someone you are close to? If so, think about the possible consequences of lashing out. For example, you could really hurt this person and damage the relationship. Is this really what you want? Instead of letting your anger flare up, schedule a time to discuss the situation in a peaceful location where you feel at ease.
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When you are ready to talk about an important situation, work hard to get your message across without attacking the other person. For example, one effective strategy is to use "I-statements," such as "I feel angry and neglected when you don't ask me about my about my job." The goal is to express how you feel in a way that is direct but not hurtful to the other person. Making comments like "You think your job is more important than mine" is telling the other person how they feel and may cause them to become defensive.
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Discussing an important issue, though, is not just about expressing yourself. Listening carefully is also extremely important. What is the other person saying? Do they have a valid point? If you allow your anger to take over, you will not be able to find common ground. So, strive to be clear when you speak but also patient when the other person is voicing their point of view.
It is possible to learn new ways to deal with anger. Anger does not have to take over your life and negatively impact the lives of the people around you. If you find yourself struggling, though, there are therapists who specialize in anger management. A therapist can not only help address your anger but also other mental health issues that you may be dealing with.
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However, Catholics accept Muslims as children of Abraham, and worshipers of the one true God, albeit it in a defective way.
The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems. They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself; merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5) who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God. Though they do not acknowledge Jesus as God, they revere Him as a prophet. They also honor Mary, His virgin Mother; at times they even call on her with devotion. In addition, they await the day of judgment when God will render their deserts to all those who have been raised up from the dead. Finally, they value the moral life and worship God especially through prayer, almsgiving and fasting. Since in the course of centuries not a few quarrels and hostilities have arisen between Christians and Moslems, this sacred synod urges all to forget the past and to work sincerely for mutual understanding and to preserve as well as to promote together for the benefit of all mankind social justice and moral welfare, as well as peace and freedom.
Linus, et al, is this the best Orthodoxy has to offer?What on earth could anything anybody said here make me want to make the swim!? Think about what you write. Think about how things looks to outsiders. Wash the cup, inside and out.All I have seen here is more internet intransigence. I don't know what you were trying to prove, but thanks, I am even more deeply convicted of my Faith.As the black boy on South Park once said, "that's it. I'm OUT!"
Jakub: Too much pharisaism for me
Linus:1) "Trying to excuse something" seems to indicate you think I support it.
2) I don't seriously think *anything* about Assisi since I have not read what went on there! I don't even have the vaguest notions of the proceedings. All I am calling for is for someone to find the record of the proceedings so we can get to the bottom of it. You have already painted me as your opponent in this issue but you will be surprised to see my come out against Assisi if I find sycretism occurred. And syncretism would be if every religion got its chance to teach its doctrines equally.anastasios
Jakub: I look at JPII as man, he will be prone to mis-steps just as St. Peter was. His title of Patriarch of the West & Bishop of Rome does not act as armor.Now being a RC I suppose my fellow Latins or Greek Catholics will stomp on me a little but thats how I see it.
Note that - sadly - an Orthodox cleric of some kind - presumably a patriarch - was involved.
Check it out. It's the Novus Ordo religion in action...http://www.diocesereport.com/special/assisi2/photo_review.shtml
I cannot believe these posts from those of you sitting at your little computers in your comfortable little American 2004 lives about how you'd die before betraying Christianity. I hate to break it to you but the majority of you would crack. That's basic human nature. People always crack under torture. Look at the persecutions of the Church over time, when faced with a life and death choice, most Christians betrayed their faith. Human beings have a natural instinct to save their lives. I pray to God that I'm never in that situation but if I am I pray to God that He'll help me and I know that He'll have mercy on me if I give in.
If in the supposedly unlikely chance that Abraham is their father, however, then the Moslems worship Yahweh too, however imperfectly.
The success of the Catholic Church in Hindu India in converting many to the Christian faith has been largely based on the Church's integration of some Hindu beliefs into the practice of Christianity.
Quote from: hecma925 on December 30, 2019, 07:25:46 PMOCnet is KGB.I hail Mor Ephrem as our Secretary General.
OCnet is KGB.
Oh you Greeks, you are all dumb!An Athonite
Yes, and I will readily admit that I believe such attendance by Orthodox is WRONG. I think the point some of us were getting at is that no matter how outrageous whatever the Pope of Rome does RCs are reluctant to say it was wrong. Whereas if Orthodox bishops do anything out of the norm no one hestitates to say they think it was wrong. Look at the relationship of the Athonites since the calendar change with te EP for example.
Dear Friends:. . .The success of the Catholic Church in Hindu India in converting many to the Christian faith has been largely based on the Church's integration of some Hindu beliefs into the practice of Christianity.. . .AmdG
What specific Hindu beliefs? I think perhaps it is the integration of Hindu culture into the Catholic faith. Vatican 2 and related post-Conciliar policies and documents talk about inculturation. I don't think that the Pope would allow prayers to Vishnu, et. al., in the liturgy.Jim C.
We Orthodox need to recall the "glassiness" of our own house in this regard. Didn't the late Patriarch Parthenios on a couple of occasions state that we should honor Mohammed as a prophet? The Pope kissing the Koran was at best an ambiguous act subject to various interpretations, but the Patriarch's statements about Mohammed and Islam were way out of line.
James, you are correct. But the athonites (and others) were greatly upset for that and clamored for the immediated deposing of the patriach. Can't depose an RCC Pope!
At the rate the Moslems are increasing in numbers in Italy through immigration and making babies, your statement will likely no longer be true in 50 to 150 years!
Can't depose an RCC Pope
I would suggest to them take a look on how the East would address a Patriarch with the same illness.
Unfortunately, the wise "clamor" of the monks of the Holy Mountain went thoroughly unheeded, and the Patriarch of Alexandria, who made such heretical statements, remained securely in office until the day he died. What Patriarch Parthenos said was indeed quite heretical and an insult to all the holy martyrs who died and were tortured under the Islamic yoke.
are you sure it is the integration of Hindu beliefs that is responsible for this, or do you mean the integration of certain Hindu practices?
Nonetheless I will respect a Moslem's belief if he says that his father is Abraham too (through Ishmael) whether or not Abraham truly is his father. If in the supposedly unlikely chance that Abraham is their father, however, then the Moslems worship Yahweh too, however imperfectly.
So Muslims are not the same as Abraham followers.
Again:1- Muslims don't believe in the Trinity. They refer to christian therefore as thritheists and infidels.
2- Muslims don't believe in the divinity of Christ. Allah , in Islam, sent ISSA (Jesus in arabic) as his messanger and prophet. Allah is not Jesus Christ nor Jehova.
3- How do you deal with 1 John 5:10 and 2 John ?
1 John 5:1010 Whoever believes in the Son of God has this testimony within himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar by not believing the testimony God has given about his Son.
2John1 The Presbyter to the chosen Lady and to her children whom I love in truth--and not only I but also all who know the truth-- 2 because of the truth that dwells in us and will be with us forever. 3 Grace, mercy, and peace will be with us from God the Father and from Jesus Christ the Father's Son in truth and love. 4 I rejoiced greatly to find some of your children walking in the truth just as we were commanded by the Father. 5 But now, Lady, I ask you, not as though I were writing a new commandment but the one we have had from the beginning: let us love one another. 6 For this is love, that we walk according to his commandments; this is the commandment, as you heard from the beginning, in which you should walk. 7 Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh; such is the deceitful one and the antichrist. 8 Look to yourselves that you do not lose what we worked for but may receive a full recompense. 9 Anyone who is so "progressive" as not to remain in the teaching of the Christ does not have God; whoever remains in the teaching has the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this doctrine, do not receive him in your house or even greet him; 11 for whoever greets him shares in his evil works. 12 Although I have much to write to you, I do not intend to use paper and ink. Instead, I hope to visit you and to speak face to face so that our joy may be complete. 13 The children of your chosen sister send you greetings.
4- Characteristics of Allah are befitting Jankiz Khan. Is this the same God of Abraham ?
I don't really care much about what Pope John Paul II did,but it is very dangerous to try to excuse him on the basis of a pluralists theory of embracing all faiths.
Abraham's followers, then, are Jews or Christians, or both?
Do you believe that Jews worship the same God as the Christians?
What I wrote originally is that in courtesy and charity I will accept what a Moslem says when he says that he worships Abraham's God.
Are you aiming this at the cradle Moslem who may not have had the chance to hear the saving message of the Gospel or has been raised in an environment that makes it nearly impossible in human terms to hear the message in a non-confrontational, objective, and unemotional environment?
They have proclaimed a belief in Yehwa, even given that their belief in Yahweh, Abraham's God, is very imperfect, distorted, directed toward wrong ends, etc.
Those of us who are born into Christianity have it easy
Those who come to Christianity from outside the faith--and this would apply to Moslems to coming this way--have the tougher road to travel.
Just who will God judge the harsher, the infidel who does not make the journey or fails in that journey OR the faithful who neglect the Holy Faith? And what happens when/if we alienate these infidels by our demeanor towards them?
I recall that this passage is also about the early Gnosticism afflicting the Church. Does Islam have some origin in Gnosticism
I do recall that Islam conquered (NOT converted) a divided Christian community in the 600-700's.
Did the heresy of Nestorianism have something to do with Gnosticism and with Islam?
If Christians go around to Moslems and say to them that they do not believe in the God of Abraham or that they worship a demon god, then they will never get around to converting them. Conventional wisdom supposedly asserts that it is nearly impossible to convert Muslims.
. But I will be respectful, courteous, and irenic when the occasion arises. Nevertheless, I will not agree to something that I don't believe in if or when I next get the chance to interact with the Prophet's followers
BTW, do you really think that JP-II worships Allah?
Regarding his kissing the Koran, yes, it troubles me but I want to know the whole story first, not that I would ever kiss the Koran myself
You have me at a disadvantage. I don't know who Jankiz Khan is?? Genghis Khan perhaps?
If Allah and Yahweh are two different deities, there is at least something in common between them--violence--if one were to take an overly simplistic & fundamentalistic view of Holy Writ.
If by this statement you mean irenicism, then I support JP-II without qualification.
Is Patriarch Parthenos the Greek Orthodox Patriarch in Alexandria ? When did he held office ? I am Coptic Orthodox, lived a good portion of my life between Alexadria and Cairo in Egypt, never ever heard of such incident which would have received its share of publicity in our Islamic Media. Granted that the Chalcedonian are a very small minority in Egypt, it would still be major news.
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