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Read somewhere about the new book "Rise of the horde" where Ner'zhul is pictured as a hero for disobeying Kil'jaeden. Maybe we should add something about that
- Not sure entirely what you mean. Do you mean that the book will portray him as a hero, or that the orcs in the book regard him as a hero? Either way, we won't include it until the book is published. --Ragestorm 14:09, 2 November 2006 (EST)
- Based on the game manuals for WC3 and WoW, the original Ner'zhul didn't seem that bad to me. He made tentative contact with a demon and then realized his mistake and canceled the deal. From then on events were more or less out of his control.--Illidan Rocks 16:03, 10 January 2007 (EST)
- I'm reading RotH right now and from all I've seen, Ner'zhul is genuinely regrettful of causing the orcs to be corrupted. though I haven't finished the book, I find it curious that during the second war he would openly embrace the demon magics and perpetuate the war by invading Azeroth. I understand his anger and generally pissed attitude once he became the Lich King, being tortured by Kil'jaeden and then getting locked into a block of ice, but even that doesn't fit with his "repented" attitude presented in the book. Am I the only one who's confused with this issue? --Geofram 23:11, 27 February 2007
- I see Ner'zhul as a being with a good strong set of morals. However, he's willing to forsake these morals for the sake of ambition. For instance, he treats his Scourge servants with a relative amount of paternal love. For the most part he seems to regard Kel'thuzad and Arthas like his children (well Arthas at least). He's never been really portrayed as pure evil. The only people he's actively combated are the dreadlords, the legion and humanity. All of which were his enemies in life.--Aldrius 02:53, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
- Umm... I think you'll find that he has been portrayed as something close to pure evil (he wasn't quite at that point yet) until RotH. In BtDP, he was the evil Warchief seeking to bend the powers of Sargeras to give the Orcs new, rich worlds to conquer. In the RoC manual, he lacked only the "brazen audacity" to carry out Kil'jaeden's plan, and in the game... well, I think the Scourge speaks for himself. You're right that he has morals he gives up in the face of ambition, but the whole "liches as children" thing is a bit of a stretch...--Ragestorm (talk · contr) 09:15, 9 May 2007 (EDT)
Spirititually speaking, Ner'zhul is pretty much dead,if he didn't die in the events of the second war,he died when he became the lich king. Zarnks 03:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
Correction, spiritually speaking, Ner'zhul is "undead".Baggins 04:44, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I mean the good in him is dead
I doubt the good in him is dead, maybe just forgotten. But the story said that "at that moment, the orc known as Ner'zhul was shattered forever". But if you read Rise of the Horde, you will see that he was trying to do the right thing, he wasn't evil, just tricked and misunderstood. He was one of the wisest people in Warcraft history, he aimed to save his people from evil. It was not intentional to lead them into the very heart of it. Baldr 00:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC) Zarnks 16:21, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Added two more successions that i believe ner'zhul was part of, the fact he created the first horde and his position in the shadowmoon clan --Diggory 08:00, 29 January 2007 (EST)
- Removed the Shadowmoon one, as they're no point in having it if both preceding and succeeding are unknown. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 08:38, 29 January 2007 (EST)
Did he become a warlock (and gain a cool robe) some time between the start of the first war and the BtDP or was that retconed? The way I see it, he sucummed to/embraced demonic corruption but still had a deep hatred for what Kil did to his people, so he tried to find a new unspoiled world to invade and start over (or try, the orcs were still pretty bloodlusted) and save his people.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 00:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
- It's never clear, but it does appear that he was some brand of warlock for a while, but it's implied that that stopped when Gul'dan usurped him. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 03:46, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
I'd say it's wrong to class him as Warlock: In neither of the novels Rise of the Horde, Tides of Darkness and Beyond the Dark Portal, Ner'zhul shows any sign of being Warlock.
He remains a Shaman into the bitter end, when he is transformed into the Lich King.--WoWWiki-Odolwa (talk) 20:09, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Well... A shaman doesn't open otherworldly demonic portals. A warlock does!!! --N'Nanz (talk) 20:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
I doubt you are required to be a Warlock to open those portals, if you got all the super-artifacts that Ner'zhul had. It should suffice with being a magic-wielder of some sort. Remember, Khadgar was able to close the Dark Portal having the Spellbook of Medivh, and Khadgar is a Mage.--WoWWiki-Odolwa (talk) 20:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- In Rise of the Horde, Ner'zhul encourages the training of warlocks initially, though there isn't any evidence suggest that he himself took up the practice (on the other hand, there's nothing to say that he didn't, either). In Beyond the Dark Portal, it's established that Ner'zhul still has control over elemental forces, even though the Spirits had completely forsaken him. Golden/Rosenberg mentions that he'd found "other sources of power" or something like that. Could have been using warlock techniques to control the elements, but the matter isn't explained at all. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 01:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
What you say is true, but the Warlock-thing remains as speculation. I don't think we should post such important statements unless we are sure about it. I have now removed "Warlock" from his Character class, but anyone is welcome to put it back should you find any proof of this.--WoWWiki-Odolwa (talk) 16:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
How many portals did this guy open and to where? Besides the portal from Outland (Draenor) to Azeroth. Mr.X8 01:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
- Gul'dan opened that one. There's never been a number given for how many gates were opened, though four is the absolute minimum. Probably at least two or three times that number. As to where, various planets in the Twisting Nether. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 01:49, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Really... Then I have a theory on this and the worgen. Maybe when Ner'zhul opened a portal to another planet he opened a portal to the worgen's homeworld. Which besides the scythe is also how they got here cause it says Velinde saw the Worgen fighting the Burnin Legion on their planet. Mr.X8 02:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Well he had one in Zangarmarsh and one or more in Nagrand, the Blade's dge mountains is a good bet, and Netherstorm, well that is kind of self-explanitory. Baldr 00:46, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- See Dimensional gateway.--User:Sandwichman2448/Sig 00:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
The Note
In my opinion, this note is just silly:
Ner'zhul has been very twisted since the days of old. He is no longer the wisened, good Shaman that warned Durotan of the coming disaster. He no longer got a conscience, and appearantly feel no remorse at all for killing scours of innocient people. I very much doubt he would even have any regret in raising the body of his deceased mate Rulkan as a mindless undead. So I see no reason why he would spare any at all, and I doubt Thrall would been granted mercy. Besides, Durotan was the only chieftain that actually was warned by Ner'zhul.--Odolwa
- While the presence of Arthas in his being, who is undeniably sociopathic, would change things, there's nothing to say that he couldn't remember his conscience temporarily, when he discovers that an enemy is the family of one of his trusted peers.Iwanttobeasleep 05:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Defeated the legion
Its been noted that Ner'zhul planned for the Legion to fail (Quotes Arthas "The master i serve will benifit from the Legions downfall). What if the only reason that Nerzuel summond the legion was to defeat it (as well as to destroy all life on the planet but he needed them to kill the legion 1st)(What better way to kill your boss than to invite them to your house and have a huge knife in your hand and say "Why dont you just sit down while I prepare your dea.. eh danish.) Its like a strategy not so commonly used this warcraft 3 throzen throne custom game Azeroth wars strategy. After defeating all oposing factions summon the Legion just so you can lure Archimonde to his doom that is right out side of the portal XD --The last Alterac 06:52, 24 October 2007 (UTC) (Btw if any of you guys are interested the name is anomynous-167 I apear on the servers us east and europe
- Ner'zhul was ordered to bring the Legion into Azeroth, and was policed by the Dreadlords. Of course, the second their backs were turned, he instructed Arthas and Kel'Thuzad to start preparing their dea... err, danish. --Ragestorm (talk · contr) 13:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
Is Ner'zhul really as evil as he seems to be? He was mostly deceived and enslaved. Kil'jaeden tricked him into giving the orcs over to him in the guise of his past mate, only to realize that Kil'jaeden was in fact an evil entity come to destroy/enslave the orcs. When he tried to fix his mistake he was disposed of and replaced by Gul'dan. (He did also try to warn his people of their coming destruction if they drank the Blood of Mannoroth.)
Then after Gul'dan failed and Ner'zhul attempted to escape the wrath of Kil'jaeden, Ner'zhul ended up coming face to face with him, was tortured and made to choose, to be tortured for eternity or to serve. Of course he chose to serve, and eventually became the Lich King and has tried and succeeded in the merciless slaughter of many people, but he was faced with a tough choice: Eternal torture or eternal service.
So is Ner'zhul really an evil being, or was he just looking out for his own well being? Or perhaps he became evil after being tortured for that unimaginably long amount of time. I'd probably end up evil too after that :P Jpsblue 02:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
I'd say he became evil after the torture thing, after reading the path of damnation. I'm sure the novelization of Beyond the Dark Portal will clear it up a little, though.Tweak the Whacked (talk) 03:04, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Even after defeating the Burning Legion, though, he's still spreading the Scourge. He may have had a tragic history, sure, but there's no question about his evil now. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 06:28, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
- Read identity crisis of the Lich King. Who can say as good as Ner'zhul is that Chris Metzen!? ;p --N'Nanz (talk) 20:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
At the end of Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, it stated that Arthas killed off both his last bit of humanity and Ner'zhul's remaining spirit. So should Ner'zhul's status be changed to Deceased and have the Lich King stated as Arthas without sanity or something? Or should it be left alone since it could be left for interpretation on the fact it could've just been only a dream? Even though he awoke right after and said "It's begun" at the beginning of the WotLK cinematic.
- I think stauts should be changed to unknown and a small section explaining what happened and a line or two explaining under speculation each theory (dead or banished). But not yet, we still aren't posting spoilers.Warthok Talk Contribs 05:04, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
- I consider him to still be merged with Arthas based on his comment in Alliance Howling Fjord that he "was once a shaman." If it was just Arthas, he wouldn't have said that. I think that the Arths killing Ner'zhul andgood Arthas was justa representation of the Lich King entity killing off any remnant of individuality of the two spirits. Skreeran (talk) 08:50, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Dead or not, as of Rise of the Lich King, Ner'zhul is no longer part of Th Lich King.
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 09:07, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- I wouldn't go as far as no longer part of the Lich King, but he isn't dominant, that much is certain. The two came together and one took over.--TheUltimate (talk) 10:19, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Would "Parasit/Host" be a nicer formulation? ^^
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 10:23, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Technically Arthas would be the parasite then heh. Hm, I was gonna do a serious "It would actually be" kind of thing but heh...that pretty much sums it up. Ner'zhul(Host) + Arthas(Parasite) / Arthas(BeingStrongerThanAnOldMan) = new Lich King--TheUltimate (talk) 10:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- My guess is the undead part of Arthas. --User:Gourra/Sig2 12:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Art'zhul or Nerthas was before we know of the events of RotLK.
- Now, the only thing left is the Arthas with cold-cunning intelligence and brute force. The "evil side" of his former personnality.
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 12:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- What? You must be confused; the first post here states "Arthas killed off both his last bit of humanity and Ner'zhul's remaining spirit". It more or less means that Arthas' good side (humanity) doesn't exist anymore and that Ner'zhul is gone from the Lich King, which more or less means that the Lich King is the "evil side" of Arthas. --User:Gourra/Sig2 12:49, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- Did Ner'zhul still had a "good side" after being turned to the Lich King? I don't know, but he still had a free will (to escape the Burning legion control)
- Loremaster A'noob, Arch Druid of the Noobhoof Clan (talk/contribz) 12:47, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
- What we have left is Arthas, that is himself and everything that was Ner'zhul, as the new Lich King. With Matthias dead-er and Ner'zhul consumed by the stronger personality of Arthas, we just have Arthas left. If there was any good left in Ner'zhul, I'm sure the Legionlord knocked that out of him before throwing him to Azeroth.--TheUltimate (talk) 12:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Ner'zhul's plan probably went like this:
Ner'zhul: Ok, here is the plan necromancer. I'm going to trick a emo horse loving prince into spiraling down into despair and vengeance and he will come here to take this increadiably powerful sword that Kil'Jaeden, for no reason, gave to me. I will use him to beat the Burning Legion for me and once they are defeated, I will have the prince come back to Northrend, release me from the Frozen Throne and I will merge my spirit with his and be free to move around again.
Kel'Thuzad: What if something goes wrong? Like I don't know, that emo prince's spirit turns out to be stronger than yours. It is HIS body that you are trying to invade, and you aren't...well young anymore.
Ner'zhul: Nah things will work out. --13:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
If Ner'zhul is completely gone and it's just Arthas in there, someone explain why he said he was once a shaman in Howling Fjord? Arthas and Ner'zhul as individual entities are gone. There is just the Lich King. It's not a parasite/host relationship and it's not just Arthas. It's both and it's neither. Skreeran (talk) 04:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- They merged, became one being which Arthas' spirit took over. Everything Ner'zhul was Arthas is now and together they are the Lich King.--TheUltimate (talk) 11:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, there's no Ner'zhul and there's no Lich King, only Arthas Menethil. About the shaman thing, that's because he probably stole Ner'zhul's powers. They merged, but, instead of remaining merged, Arthas destroyed Ner'zhul and took control of everything.--Lon-ami (talk) 13:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- "There is only I. I am the Lich King and I am ready" tends to disagree with there's no Lich King. The Legends preview also disagrees that there is no Ner'zhul. But this debate can go on forever.--TheUltimate (talk) 13:22, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, there's no Ner'zhul and there's no Lich King, only Arthas Menethil. About the shaman thing, that's because he probably stole Ner'zhul's powers. They merged, but, instead of remaining merged, Arthas destroyed Ner'zhul and took control of everything.--Lon-ami (talk) 13:03, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
It's probably the same scenario as when Illidan consumed the Skull of Gul'dan. Illidan aquired Gul'dan's memories (as Arthas did with Ner'zhul), but Gul'dan's conscious spirit remained dead. It's most likely the same with Ner'zhul now that Arthas killed his spirit, and Ner'zhul should now be considered dead.--WoWWiki-Odolwa (talk) 13:40, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
- Agree with Odolwa. Anyway, Lich King is just a title, and not a character name. The character name is Arthas Menethil, and the info about the character is at that article. Some info remains at Lich King, but it's just the history of who was in charge of the title, and information that helps lighten original articles.
- Anyway, let's move this to policy forum and discuss it: Forum:Character naming: Arthas Menethil or Lich King?.--Lon-ami (talk) 15:05, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I don't think the book constitutes as canon-material. If we based this off the games then Ner'zhul would still be part of the Lich King whereas in this book he isn't anymore. FireLordZuko (talk) 18:16, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Blizzard has said repeatedly that the novels are canon. -- Dark T Zeratul (talk) 18:30, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
He is not dead nor he is consumed.
post #10 in this thread as quoted by Crygil a blizzard poster when someone stated arthas killed/consumed ner'zhul, "He didn't actually erase the persona of Ner'zhul. In point of fact, these two beings merged to make up what was collectively known as "The Lich King".
also this next bit is from the wow blizzard developers on twitter chat:
Q. Will Ner'zhul appear at any point in 3.3 or the near future? A. Well, he is a chunk of the Lich King now. But if you mean will he appear as an orc, we're not ready to tell his story just yet. We have a lot of stories left to tell, but his is a good one.
The book stating that ner'zhul was killed off has been retconned, and thank god because ner'zhul is too cunning for some stupid crap like that to happen. He is now more than likely in control of bolvar. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Straider0 (talk • contr).
- While interesting and should be noted somehwere this doesn't actualy qualify as a retcon. The actions that take place in the novel are quite open to interpretation (Plus not that it matters in this discussion, but Blizzard wouldn't just throw something out like that all willy nilly). Even were this clearly a retcon it is not our place to decide such, thus why wowwiki does not use words such as canon or retcon in the definitve sense in it's articles. Blizzard would have to state the existance of a retcon explicity; i.e. "We retconed this." and then we would state that clearly in the main section of the article.
- So if i were you i would add these passages as notes near the bottom of the page, but paraphrase it into a short summary and then use the reference tool to add the links. However don't touch the infobox until we actualy know something concrete. Unknown is as accurate as were gonna get right now. And of course no personal speculation whatsoever (i.e. Bolvar).Warthok Talk Contribs 21:48, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
Responding about Ner'zhul
Icecrown was merely a set back...
So I was thinking. Since Ner'zhul is trapped within the whole suit of armor (Helm, Plate of Damnation and Frostmourn) Wouldn't he still be around? Like in Lord of the Rings, Sauron's power was mainly in the Ring (Frostmourn) But he was able to come back after losing it. And now that Bolvar is wearing the Helm, he has to fight with the remains of Ner'Zhul soul that's still in the armor. That's why there is still the Scourge. If it was just Bolvar, he'd most likely recall the Scourge and destroy it, But with Ner'Zhul still kicking, he can't do that. He'd be fighting Ner'Zhul for control of them. 20:11, October 27, 2010 (UTC)Gorlack2231
Quick Question
If we kill Ner'Zhul in Warlords, would that make it so the events after Chapter 3-ish of the human campaign in Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos would be erased, thus erasing WotLK, and making the Ruins of Lordaeron just Lordaeron, Sylvanas is still High Elf, High Elves become Alliance and Blood Elves cease to exist, Arthas becomes King of Lordaeron down the road, Jaina marries Arthas, etc... Would that all happen?
Nope! This Universe(Main Timeline, ours) is a complete different reality while the one that Garrosh and Kairozdormu made is a complete ALTERNATE one, where all events from our timeline where correct til' the drinking of Mannaroths blood on Draenor, therefore non of what you said would happen, as they are two complete different entities
Hope this helps clear things up.
-- TheKaldorei (contribs, talk) 8 Jun 2014 6:52 PM UTC 18:52, June 8, 2014 (UTC)
So, if it doesn't effect OUR timeline...what about alternate present day Azeroth? I am guessing this would happen to it. However, because we're going back to BtDK, we might face another Azeroth revamp (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!), this time in the form of being able to travel to Warcraft 2 Azeroth.
Contray to popular belief, Kairozdormu only created an Alternate Draenor. So I understand your confusion :)-- TheKaldorei (contribs, talk) 8 Jun 2014 6:52 PM UTC 18:52, June 8, 2014 (UTC)


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Police make season-high 18 arrests at Packers game
50 ejected for misconduct
GREEN BAY, Wis. — Green Bay police report a season-high 18 arrests at the Packers' home game against Detroit.
Of the 18 arrests Sunday, 12 people were cited for unlawful conduct at a public event. Four of them were also suspected of resisting arrest. Two people were arrested on suspicion of marijuana possession, while one person was cited for disorderly conduct. Three were accused of underage drinking, with two of them also cited for obstructing an officer.
Police say 50 people were ejected for misconduct.
The Green Bay Press-Gazette reported fans usually behave well when the Lions play at Lambeau Field compared with when the Vikings or Bears visit. But the newspaper said these were the most arrests and ejections when the Packers have hosted Detroit since at least the 1996 regular season.

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Correos de Costa Rica asks us to inform the designated operators of other Union member countries that postal operations have returned to normal in the affected areas following Hurricane Otto. The extreme weather, which began on 23 November 2016, had a significant impact on transportation and telecommunications infrastructure and, as a result, the postal network.
Correos de Costa Rica thanks designated operators for their understanding in this emergency situation and reaffirms its commitment to efficient postal service delivery.


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Learn with the astronauts on ESA's underground training course CAVES as instructor Jo de Waele introduces astronauts to the karst geology that form caverns and caves.
This is part one of the five-part lecture that was given during ESA's CAVES 2013 training course offering an overview of the environment the astronauts would explore. ESA astronaut Paolo Nespoli, Canadian astronaut Jeremy Hansen, Russian cosmonaut Aleksei Ovchinin, Japanese astronaut Satoshi Furukawa and NASA astronauts Mike Barratt and Jack Fischer were present at the lecture.
CAVES stands for Cooperative Adventure for Valuing and Exercising human behaviour and performance Skills. The two-week course prepares astronauts to work safely and effectively in multicultural teams in an environment where safety is critical -- in caves.
Held each year, CAVES teaches astronauts to explore the underground system of the Sa Grutta caves in Sardinia, Italy, as a team, delving deep underground to perform scientific experiments as well as chart and document their activities.
Video 1: What is karst? How do caves form? Where can we find solution caves? How do rocks dissolve? Which reactions allow rock solution? What are closed and open karst systems, and how do they influence cave formation?


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Leviathan is a sea monster referred to in the Bible. The word has become synonymous with any large sea monster or creature. In literature (e.g., Herman Melville's Moby-Dick) it refers to great whales, and in Modern Hebrew, it simply means whale.
Leviathan is mentioned several times in the Tanakh. Some passages of Scripture that reference Leviathan are describing an actual creature, some are poetic metaphors and some are prophetical metaphors.
Leviathan was written of as a metaphor for mourning in the Book of Job. It says, "Let those curse it who curse the day, who are ready to rouse up Leviathan" (Job 3:8 ESV). The King James translation says, "Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning" (Job 3:8 KJV). The Hebrew word used for "mourning" in the KJV is "livyathan" (לִוְיָתָן). The KJV actually translated this passage wrong.
In the Genesis account of God's creation of the heavens and the earth, the creation of sea monsters is recorded. Genesis says, "So God created the great sea creatures and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good" (Genesis 1:21 ESV). Leviathan is described extensively in the Book of Job.
"Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook or press down his tongue with a cord? Can you put a rope in his nose or pierce his jaw with a hook? Will he make many pleas to you? Will he speak to you soft words? Will he make a covenant with you to take him for your servant forever? Will you play with him as with a bird, or will you put him on a leash for your girls? Will traders bargain over him? Will they divide him up among the merchants? Can you fill his skin with harpoons or his head with fishing spears? Lay your hands on him; remember the battle–you will not do it again! Behold, the hope of a man is false; he is laid low even at the sight of him. No one is so fierce that he dares to stir him up. Who then is he who can stand before me? Who has first given to me, that I should repay him? Whatever is under the whole heaven is mine. "I will not keep silence concerning his limbs, or his mighty strength, or his goodly frame. Who can strip off his outer garment? Who would come near him with a bridle? Who can open the doors of his face? Around his teeth is terror. His back is made of rows of shields, shut up closely as with a seal. One is so near to another that no air can come between them. They are joined one to another; they clasp each other and cannot be separated. His sneezings flash forth light, and his eyes are like the eyelids of the dawn. Out of his mouth go flaming torches; sparks of fire leap forth. Out of his nostrils comes forth smoke, as from a boiling pot and burning rushes. His breath kindles coals, and a flame comes forth from his mouth. In his neck abides strength, and terror dances before him. The folds of his flesh stick together, firmly cast on him and immovable. His heart is hard as a stone, hard as the lower millstone. When he raises himself up the mighty are afraid; at the crashing they are beside themselves. Though the sword reaches him, it does not avail, nor the spear, the dart, or the javelin. He counts iron as straw, and bronze as rotten wood. The arrow cannot make him flee; for him sling stones are turned to stubble. Clubs are counted as stubble; he laughs at the rattle of javelins. His underparts are like sharp potsherds; he spreads himself like a threshing sledge on the mire. He makes the deep boil like a pot; he makes the sea like a pot of ointment. Behind him he leaves a shining wake; one would think the deep to be white-haired. On earth there is not his like, a creature without fear. He sees everything that is high; he is king over all the sons of pride."
(Job 41:1-34 ESV)
Some scholars think Leviathan as described in Job 41:1-34 is a crocodile. When reading this passage it is obvious that this is absurd. Leviathan appears to be a large fire breathing animal of some sort. Just as the bombardier beetle has an explosion producing mechanism, so the great sea dragon may have an explosive producing mechanism to enable it to be a real fire breathing dragon. Leviathan is also perhaps thought by some scholars to be an the extinct animal from the Plesiosauridae family.
Psalms 104 mentions Leviathan poetically as the Psalmist praises and magnifies God for His beautiful creation of the world. "Here is the sea, great and wide, which teems with creatures innumerable, living things both small and great. There go the ships, and Leviathan, which you formed to play in it. These all look to you, to give them their food in due season" (Psalms 104:25-27 ESV).
Asaph authored a Psalm which appears to describe the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple by the Chaldeans (Babylon and Nebuchadnezzar). This Psalm also appears to have a dual metaphor for Leviathan. This metaphor appears to describe an actual event that references Leviathan as a sea monster and a possible parallel prophecy of the head wound that the Antichrist will receive as described in the Book of Revelation.
Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters. Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.
(Psalms 74:13-14 KJV)
The Prophet Isaiah wrote used the name of Leviathan as a metaphor in Judeo-Christian eschatology. Isaiah's metaphor of Leviathan is a reference to the coming Antichrist and confirms and reinforces the prophecies in the Book of Revelation.
In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
(Isaiah 27:1 KJV)
The coming Antichrist is also pictured as coming from the sea and coming in the power of the dragon (Satan) in the Book of Revelation. The connections between Leviathan and the Antichrist are very obvious. Every comparison that we will make between Leviathan and Antichrist is also a comparison to Satan as he is the controlling force behind the Antichrist. There are also obvious connections to fallen angels, the Nephilim and the alien agenda or extraterrestrial deception.
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(Revelation 12:9 KJV)
And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
(Revelation 13:1-4 KJV)
It would be fair to conclude that some passages in Scripture describe Leviathan as a dragon. Dragons were the symbol of ancient Babylon. Draco is a constellation in the far northern sky. Its name is Latin for dragon.
The Leviathan of the Middle Ages was used as an image of Satan. St. Thomas Aquinas described Leviathan as the demon of envy, first in punishing the corresponding sinners. Leviathan became associated with visual motif of the Hellmouth, a monstrous animal into whose mouth the damned disappear at the Last Judgement, found in Anglo-Saxon art from about ninth century, and later all over Europe.
In Satanism, according to the author of the Satanic Bible, Anton Szandor LaVey, Leviathan represents the element of Water and the direction of West. The element of Water in Satanism is associated with life and creation, and may be represented by a Chalice during ritual. In the Satanic Bible, Leviathan is listed as one of the Four Crown Princes of Hell. This association was inspired by the demonic hierarchy from the Book of the Sacred Magic of Abra-Melin the Mage. The Church of Satan uses the Hebrew letters at each of the points of the Sigil of Baphomet to represent Leviathan. Starting from the lowest point of the pentagram, and reading counter-clockwise, the word reads לִוְיָתָן. Translated, this is (LVIThN) Leviathan.
The fact that Leviathan is a real creature is beyond doubt and, as such, it is under God's sovereign control. God uses Leviathan's strength and power to illustrate to Job his weakness and frailty. God asks Job to consider how powerless he is against even the sea creatures God has created and to understand his position in the universe. God points out to Job that he could never pull Leviathan out of the water with a hook. Whatever its nature, leviathan is large and powerful enough to be subject only to the sovereign control of God Almighty.


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Lobo Teased For Injustice: Gods Among Us
Ed Boon, co-creator of Mortal Kombat and creative director for Injustice: Gods Among Us, is teasing a possible Lobo appearance in Injustice.
First, Ed Boon tweeted the image seen above with the text, "Hmmm... This guy?" Later, Boon replied to a fan who said that not featuring Lobo in the game was a huge oversight, to which Boon said, "Not all characters announced. :)"
It could just be Boon yanking our chain, or it could be a genuine hint at Lobo appearing as a fighter in the game. Lobo almost had his own fighting game for the Super Nintendo and Genesis, but it never made it to fruition.


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However, less than two weeks ago Hunter worried to the media about which of his teammates might be choking come playoff-time. Remember, Torii?
[I]f you do this in the regular season what's going to happen in the playoffs? ... It's not good, but it's good to see who's going to choke.I can't say that I blame Hunter for his concern. The pattern is unmistakable.
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A Toast to 2012! (and a happy new year!)
I'm sneaking in one last post of 2012! There is too much to reflect on here in this moment, but for the next few hours, I am celebrating all of what 2012 had to offer…and truly looking forward to an amazing 2013!
Let's be honest, this particular evening…there is a good chance you have a drink in your hand and you are surrounded by friends and family. Of course we will be popping a bottle of bubbly at midnight, but we are starting off the evening with one as well, accompanied by some Homemade Cranberry Vodka!
This process began about a month ago, with no recipe but a lot of internet research and it is very simple.
Housemade Cranberry Infused Vodka
1. Buy cheap vodka. (seriously, no need to buy the good stuff…the flavors you'll infuse it with make up for any harshness straight out of the bottle)
2. Use the extra bags of cranberries you had leftover from an overly ambitious thanksgiving.
3. Pick through the cranberries to remove any that are soft or squishy and rinse them well.
4. Toss them in a ziplock bag and use something heavy to smash them and pop them open. I didn't bother making sure that every single one had popped. I gave it a good couple whacks, shook the bag around and whacked them a few more times.
5. Using a funnel, or parchment rolled into a cone, put all the smushed cranberries into a clean, washed out, old juice bottle.
6. Pour vodka in the bottle all the way to the top. Now stash it away in a cool and dark(ish) location. Shake the bottle at least once a day for the first week or so and then leave to steep for at least 3 weeks.
7. Once the vodka has turned a deep red color, strain out all the cranberries and any small pieces…cheesecloth or a coffee filter work very well…and pour into a clean bottles, mason jars, etc. The vodka should keep very well, especially in the freezer.
Now it's time for the exciting part!
I haven't settled on an official title for this drink…perhaps a New Year's Sunset? I'm open to thoughts and ideas!
Pour 1 oz. of cranberry vodka into the bottom of a flute.
Add in one dropper full of bitters. We're currently using Urban Moonshine Citrus Bitters, which was a gift from my brother's in-laws a year or so ago.
Next…pop the champagne…which was actually a Cava from Trader Joe's. There are plenty of reviews out there…and they all say the same thing…a very good bubbly for the price-point. In fact, the Carte Noire M. Chevalier Brut was recommended to me by a nice older gentleman in the aisle of TJ's while searching for a decent bubbly for a party that wouldn't break the bank. He told a long story of a blind tasting, where everyone settled on this one as their favorite of the evening and were truly shocked when they revealed the bottle and saw the price of $6 a bottle!
Top with Cava and just a dash of simple syrup to even out the tannins in the cranberries.
Put a little twist of citrus on the rim of the glass and you are ready to start the celebrations!
Christmas Eve we created another festive cocktail with our homemade cranberry vodka.
Cranberry Pimm's Cup
(for 2 short drinks)
2 oz. housemade cranberry vodka
1 oz. Pimm's #1 Cup
1 dropper full of Urban Moonshine Citrus Bitters
2-3 oz. of Sprite
Shake over ice and pour into two martini glasses!
Cheers to 2012!
Ready or not…Here comes 2013!
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PHILADELPHIA (AP) ? Talk about a baptism by fire: On the first day of Lauren Colegrove's journalism internship at Catholic News Service in Rome, the pope announced his resignation.
The Villanova University junior thought she'd spend her first day filling out paperwork and undergoing orientation. Instead, she ran over to the Vatican Press Office to attend a news conference and later conducted interviews in St. Peter's Square.
"It's pretty hard to have a more exciting first day of work than that," Colegrove said in an email interview.
Colegrove, originally from Tampa, Fla., is among four Villanova University students working this semester at the Vatican. It's an already uncommon internship that has taken on a whole new dimension with the historic departure of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of his successor, Pope Francis.
Previous interns from Villanova, a private Catholic university near Philadelphia, have shot videos for the Vatican's YouTube channel, created 360-degree virtual tours of the Sistine Chapel and St. Peter's Basilica, and performed research that led to the first papal tweet in December.
"Not every tourist can walk up and say, 'I'd like to go behind the wall of the Vatican and check out what's happening,'" said Villanova computer science professor Robert Beck, who helps select the students who go abroad. "The interns are given the ability to do that."
In addition to Colegrove's reporting, the university this year has a computer science student working on a Vatican mobile app at the Internet Office of the Holy See and two other students interning at the Pontifical Council for Social Communication.
The council administers the Vatican's main news portal, www.news.va, and its companion Facebook page. Communications interns Danielle McMonagle and Sean Hudgins have been creating and curating content for the latter website since last month, including taking photos of Benedict's last audience in St. Peter's Square.
"It was one of the most amazing things I have ever experienced, not only as an intern but just in general being there with thousands of people from all over the world," McMonagle, a junior from Moorestown, N.J., wrote in an email.
Thaddeus Jones, a council official and the interns' supervisor, said the world moves so quickly that "it's more important than ever" to draw on students' knowledge of multimedia and digital social platforms to help the church communicate in the 21st century.
But with the breaking news of Benedict's departure, subsequent conclave and the selection of Argentine Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio as the new pope on Wednesday, there is less time for students to research emerging technologies and strategies, as previous interns have done, he said.
"It's kind of like all hands on deck right now, rather than study trends and things," Jones said in a phone interview.
Villanova's program started in 2003 with computer science students working in the Vatican's Internet Office to help modernize the church. By 2008, communications students were being placed at the Pontifical Council for Social Communication.
Last semester, intern Andrew Jadick helped the church prepare for a tweeting pope by researching how other major world figures use their Twitter accounts. Jadick was among those who stood by Benedict on Dec. 12 when he tweeted for the first time, and got to shake the pontiff's hand.
After Benedict stepped down Feb. 28, the church deleted, but archived, all his tweets ? the account read "Sede Vacante," or "Seat Vacant" until Wednesday. Jadick hopes the new pope will also take advantage of Twitter, because a social media presence can help Catholics feel more connected to their leader, he said.
"It would be a shame if he doesn't want to use it," said Jadick, who is now back on campus.
Meanwhile, McMonagle expects to be very busy in the coming days gathering content and public reaction to the momentous election of Francis, the first Jesuit pope and the first to be chosen from the Americas.
"To have the opportunity to work as an intern here at the Vatican was already an honor," McMonagle said, "but to be doing so now at this historic time is simply incredible."
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Firefighters are struggling to control more than a dozen blazes that have scorched thousands of acres. NBC's Gabe Gutierrez reports.
Updated at 12:20 a.m ET: At least 121 structures, many of them homes, have been destroyed by wildfires in Oklahoma, officials said Saturday as temperatures topped 100 degrees for a 19th straight day.
New evacuations were under way Saturday as well: Authorities ordered evacuations in the towns of Glencoe, population of around 600, and Mannford, population about 3,000 in Creek County about 20 miles west of Tulsa.
Thousands were on the move as the fire in Creek County spread quickly, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol reported.
A Glencoe official said 15 to 20 homes had burned in that area on Saturday, KOCO of Oklahoma City reported.
A grass fire near Luther consumed 56 structures and hot spots there and at two other large fires kept crews busy Saturday. It has burned 2,600 acres by Saturday evening.
Gov. Mary Fallin toured the Luther area on Saturday, calling the devastation "heartbreaking."
"A lot of people were at work and didn't realize how quickly the fire was moving," Fallin told Reuters in a telephone interview. "It's emotional. For the children, it's very emotional to lose their possessions."
Authorities suspect that fire might be arson: The Oklahoma County Sheriff's Department said it received a 911 call from a man who reported seeing another man toss a lighted newspaper from a pickup truck window on Friday afternoon.
Residents returning to their homes Saturday found charred timbers poking from the debris and the burned out shells of refrigerators, washers and dryers.
"It's all gone. All of our family pictures, everything was there," said Victoria Landavazo, clutching a young child in her arms.
Tracy Streeper was working in Oklahoma City, about 40 miles southwest, when she learned the fire was approaching. Caught in traffic, it took her a long time to reach home and then, "once we got here, we had maybe 30 minutes."
A wildfire has consumed over 2,000 acres in Cleveland County, Oklahoma, burning buildings and forcing evacuations. NBCNews.com's Al Stirrett reports.
She grabbed a few clothes, medicine and her three dogs and left quickly.
Remains of a home burnned to the ground are seen in Luther, Okla., on Saturday.
"Your adrenaline is running. You're pumped up," Streeper said. "You could just see a wall of flames coming this way. Everything was on fire."
Casey Strahan said he went outside after power went out in the home he rents about 4:30 p.m. He looked south and saw smoke rising in the distance. He thought it was moving away from him until police ordered him to leave. He rushed through the house, grabbing clothing, photos and a computer as he went. When he returned Saturday, he found the house burned to the ground.
"I just never thought it was really going to get us," said Strahan, a softball and girls basketball coach at Luther High School.
Fires near Mannford and Noble claimed another 65 structures.
Two new fires broke out on Saturday, and Oklahoma now is fighting 13 across the state, said Forestry Services spokeswoman Michelle Finch-Walker.
A state-wide burn ban was issued by Fallin on Friday.
Oklahoma has contacted neighboring states for help but, with the exception of Texas, neighbors have had to focus on their own fire threats, Fallin said on Friday.
"There's fires in Arkansas. There's fires in Kansas and Texas. Everybody else is on high heat alert," she said.
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A home burns during a large wildfire Friday, Aug. 3, 2012 in Luther, Okla.
Oklahoma joins several states that have been plagued by wildfires this summer, including Colorado, Arkansas and Nebraska. Fires are being fed by a widespread drought. Nearly two-thirds of the contiguous United States was under some level of drought as of July 31.
Low humidity, strong southerly winds and drought conditions enabled the wildfires to spread quickly across treetops, said Michelann Ooten, deputy director of the state's Office of Emergency Management.
"It's just a very difficult situation we're facing that's all weather related," Ooten said.
The heat in Oklahoma City, the state capital, has reached historic levels.
On Friday, Oklahoma City tied its all-time record for the highest temperature ever recorded when the thermometer reached 113 Fahrenheit, a mark last recorded in the Dust Bowl days in 1936.
It's so hot that some volunteer fire departments have made a public plea for Gatorade donations to keep their crews hydrated in the scalding conditions.
Reuters and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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A typical Tanjore painting would consist of one main figure, usually a deity, with a well-rounded face, body and oval shaped eyes. The main figure would be enclosed using arches, curtains etc.
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The Maratha rule in the next two centuries brought a distinctive style change to the paintings.
The royal Maratha artists combined the existing mural style with amazing details characterized by exquisite workmanship of precious stones and gold leaves.
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Sprint and Samsung started rolling out the Android 2.2 OTA update for the Epic 4G, back in late February.
However, the update was pulled back within 3 days of its release due to many issues including corrupting a user's SD card, bricking phones etcetera. Now, the folks over at Android Central have got their hands on some leaked internal Sprint document.
The document states that Sprint and Samsung will be rolling out a new Android 2.2 update for the Epic 4G owners.
Along with the Epic 4G, the Samsung Transform and the Galaxy Tab will also get OTA updates. The Transform will get the Android 2.2 update (EB28), while the Galaxy Tab will get a minor software update. All the updates will be rolled out via OTA (Over-The-Air) by Sprint, and hopefully won't lead to any issues this time.
Apparently, the Epic 4G Android 2.2 update is scheduled to roll out to the general public starting from March 21st. Updates for the Galaxy Tab and the Transform will be rolled out soon after.
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Correction on the weight. I just had it re-weighted at Thunderhill and it was ~3030 pounds.
The car has also passed the NASA technical inspection and is cleared to race in GTS4.
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Sometimes the best place to talk to Catholic baby boomer men about spirituality is far removed from the quiet of a church sanctuary.
Kevin Bartels of Queens, New York, 48, is talking about God while some of his fellow baby boomers play weekend basketball at a city playground, a weekly ritual he partakes in with as much diligence as he attends to his Sunday Mass obligation.
This group has been together for more than 15 years. These guys used to be spry, energetic, going quickly to the basket. Now they run just as hard, but the end result at times can look lethargic. The joke among them is that their game is being filmed in slow motion. The before-game banter about the Knicks, Yankees, and Mets is now accompanied by details of diagnoses on aging knees and tendons falling apart.
It wasn't supposed to be this way. Their very generational name speaks of youth and vitality. But some baby boomer men like Bartels—what demographers have dubbed those born between 1946 and 1964—are taking this more slowed-down time in their lives to smell the roses of a spirituality they may have missed out on in their young adult years.
Bartels had a son at 22. "Then the most important thing was going to work and making money," he recalls. The money—Bartels works in the mental health field as a job counselor—never really came. His first marriage broke up and he says he spent some time after his divorce looking for love in all the wrong places. He is now married to a woman he considers his best friend. They have three children, 8-year-old twins and a 3-year-old.
A renewed interest in things spiritual came to him around his 40th birthday. He made a practice of reading self-help books, including evangelical pastor Rick Warren's A Purpose Driven Life (Zondervan), and began returning to regular Mass attendance.
Bartels has progressed spiritually largely through his own efforts, tapping into the Catholic school and parish tradition in which he was raised. But for those men who want to join the men's movement, Catholic style, there also are group opportunities that grew out of the wider men's movement that took off in the 1990s and was the subject of much media interest and, in some circles, ridicule.
Men are from Mars
One such approach is led by Franciscan Father Richard Rohr, director of the Center for Action and Contemplation in New Mexico, who has built his priestly ministry around bringing men to a deeper awareness of spirituality in their lives. For modern American men, he says, it is not an easy task.
"In our culture there are so many aborted attempts to opening up the soul," he says, particularly for men, who are geared to developing careers and climbing the corporate ladder. Even the language of Christian spirituality, with its emphasis on concepts such as vulnerability and opening oneself to God, speaks of a language that women are more likely to embrace.
Men are different from women and seek spirituality in unique ways. That's true, says Rohr, even if church structures rarely recognize this. It's no accident that most pews in traditional churches are filled by women.
"The male psyche pays attention to different things," he says, something obvious to anyone who has hung around a sports bar for any length of time. If something is too pretty or too nice—such as much liturgical worship as it has evolved over the centuries—men will often be quick to avoid it.
Men, Rohr says, are used to competing and need, at times, to be pulled down. He looks to Jesus in the gospels for inspiration: Jesus is often chiding the male apostles for not getting his message, while he treats women, such as the Samaritan woman at the well in John 4, far more gently.
There are signs that baby boomer men, many of whom have achieved financial success and are married to women who have pursued their own careers, are finding less solace in job achievement and are willing to look elsewhere. Rohr's group, for example, sponsors rites of passage weekends for men, during which participants are urged to embrace their spiritual selves. They are filled up months in advance and are held in locations in the West, Midwest, and Northeast.
Like more secular men's approaches, Rohr emphasizes that men suffer from distant fathers and need to reconnect with a loving and supportive male presence in their lives. Participants in the rites of passages are expected to bond with nature as well as their fellow man.
New lease on life
A recent New York Times article chronicled the emergence of a kind of fashionably unemployed group of middle-aged men. The article noted that 13 percent of American men between the ages of 30 and 55—usually considered the prime income-producing years—are out of work, up from 5 percent in the late 1960s. The Times attributed the phenomenon to a convergence of factors: men who were laid off and unable to find similar work, those who were successfully able to put away money and can live off savings, those who find other things to do while their wives bring home the bacon, and the growth of government disability benefits and other programs.
Rohr taps baby boomer men, both employed and unemployed, as mentors in his rites of passage system. Such older men, he says, have two alternatives: They can become what he calls "generative," sharing what they have with younger people; or they can become selfish and turned inward. Those who connect with a spiritual path, says Rohr, find themselves more concerned about issues such as social justice. They stretch their worldview and grow in concern for others whom they may have ignored in their working lives.
William Buckley of Manhattan—not the late conservative pundit—has lived that "generativity" that Rohr talks about. At 59, Buckley is retired from a high-powered New York brokerage firm, the kind that dominates the finance pages. While still in his early 50s, Buckley left the firm, secure in his financial future yet unsure of what he might do with the years he expected to have left.
"I was too young to just go to the beach," he says about his retirement.
For a year and a half Buckley took college courses, read a book a week, played golf, and reconnected with old friends. "It was a lot of fun," says Buckley, who is married with two adult children. "But it became clear that there was something missing." Like many men needing a quest, Buckley discovered that the leisure lifestyle offered no objective or mission.
Now he's found his mission, teaching math to girls at St. Aloysius School in Harlem through the Ignatian Volunteer Corps, a Jesuit-run group that provides ministry opportunities and spiritual counseling and support for older adults willing to volunteer in some kind of social service work.
Jesuit-educated and an active lay Catholic much of his life, Buckley had the means and inclination to donate money to good causes. But the stories of his students in Harlem make for a different view from that on Wall Street.
"You hear the stories of these kids. Some are living in cars, some are visiting a parent in the prison system, some need medicine [and are uninsured].These kids are dealt such a bad hand. It's not right and it's not fair," he says. With the help of a spiritual adviser, Buckley regularly reflects upon the lessons he learns from his Harlem students about social injustice and how they can be applied to his spiritual life.
Edmund Stankiewicz, 60, of Mountainside, New Jersey says that a cancer scare turned his life around six years ago. He was determined "to do something I wanted to do, not what I have to do" with his second chance at life.
He sold his investment counseling business and put his business skills to work at a homeless shelter. "I had made it to the top of my profession," he says. "But it was no longer fun. It became a grind to stay there. All the toys in the world weren't doing it."
While he waxes enthusiastically about how his business efforts have contributed positively to the work of the shelter, he credits the lessons learned from regular spiritual counseling and retreats as a member of the Ignatian Volunteer Corps.
"The goal is to see God in all things," he says. It is a broad principle with daily applications. Every night before he goes to bed, Stankiewicz reviews the events of the day, putting them into perspective. "You reflect upon your whole day, where you saw God and where you didn't."
In the spirit
Joe Canlas, 60, of Queens, New York, is an accountant who has been largely unemployed over the past four years, as layoffs and switchovers to younger people have made it difficult for him to remain in the workforce. He has filled the void with devotion to his parish, including service on the finance committee and in religious education.
Married and the father of an adult son, Canlas found he has the time to follow up on his passion, a faith renewed after he got involved in the Charismatic Renewal and Marriage Encounter.
"Now God is a big part of everything. I find a parking space and I say, 'Thank you Lord,'" he says. Without his conversion, he wonders if he would even be alive today, whether the stress at work would have taken its toll. An immigrant from the Philippines, where he learned his Catholic faith from his mother, Canlas worked for high-pressure, Manhattan-based firms and found it wearing. Constant corporate "reorganization"—a frequent euphemism employed for layoffs—threatened any sense of security he may have felt in the business world.
Canlas is a man who, while galvanized by the Charismatic Renewal and Marriage Encounter, has found his niche in parish life at Ascension Church in Elmhurst, Queens. The parish offers the kind of leadership skills the corporate world failed to nurture.
Dominican Sister Donna Ciangio, who works in pastoral services for the National Pastoral Life Center (NPLC) in New York, travels the country exploring parish life. (NPLC acts as a consultant to parishes and dioceses.) She finds that men like Canlas are relative rarities. Go to just about any parish, she says, and you will discover the absence of two groups: young adults and men. There are stirrings of efforts to attract young people, yet there are relatively few efforts to attract men to parish life.
Most parishes "don't know what to do about [the absence of men]," she says. "I don't know the answers. I don't know anyone who does."
But, she cautions, it is not a new or particularly American problem. Fraternal organizations such as the Holy Name Society and Knights of Columbus were formed in part to incorporate men into parish life. Father Michael McGivney, the founder of the Knights of Columbus, was inspired by competition for the attention of Catholic men from other, more secular lodges.
Think outside the chapel
In much of the Catholic world, spirituality is largely seen as a feminine pursuit. In Latin America the church pews are largely the domain of women. Even in Catholic Ireland, the tradition is for men to stand outside the church doors on Sunday while their women pray at Mass.
Some church groups have been able to tap into male involvement. The largely evangelical Promise Keepers, popular in the 1990s for massive stadium rallies, is one example. For Catholic men, the Cursillo retreat movement, literally a "short course" in Christianity usually held over an intense weekend, still exists yet hit its height in participation in the 1970s. That movement was able to inculcate men with lessons in "what it means to be a disciple of Jesus in a manly way," says Ciangio. She suggests that perhaps the sex segregation of Cursillo, in which men and women held separate retreat weekends, fostered this dynamic.
For whatever reason, it appears, Catholic men often find it necessary to break out of parish walls to find a space to talk about God. While much spirituality talk focuses on the need for American men, in particular, to get off the career merry-go-round at least for a while to contemplate a higher calling, Heart to Heart Communications in Akron, Ohio involves men by getting them to talk about their work.
Father Norm Douglas is a priest of the Cleveland diocese and director of Heart to Heart, an organization that fosters leadership in organizations, both profit and nonprofit. It consults with corporate leaders to talk and reflect upon the spiritual dimension of work.
It is open to both men and women, Catholics and non-Catholics. But, notes Douglas, its programs attract men by a wide majority, who participate in discussion groups and websites such as livingfaithatwork.org. It's difficult to attract men, say, to a parish scripture study group. But frame it into a discussion of leadership and give it the imprimatur of the leadership of their workplace, and they do respond, he says.
Douglas finds that older men, baby boomers in their 50s and 60s, are particularly interested. They know they are nearing retirement and are concerned about "leaving a legacy."
Their question about work, he says, is "How do you want to be remembered?" He finds them eager to pass on life lessons to younger colleagues.
Douglas notes that Heart to Heart starts with spirituality as a priority and then focuses on how to integrate work with the religious quest. It's the focus on the active, particularly what it means to make spiritual sense of corporate life, that is attractive to men, he says.
Chicago writer Greg Pierce notes that men are trained to take seriously the realm of work. It's increasingly true of women as well. He has long preached that traditional piety doesn't often speak to the quest for meaning in vocation, which Pierce defines beyond the realm of religious life.
"A lot of men find their identity in their work," he says, noting that it's in that arena where men live out their faith. In his new book, The Mass Is Never Ended (Ave Maria Press), Pierce argues that church rituals need to address the world of work beyond Sunday. In this model the Mass is seen less as a serene respite but as a place where Christians take their inspiration to transform their world through their work during the week.
Such an approach, he says, should be inviting to younger people, both men and women. As a group, young adults "are not looking for a refuge from the world. They love the world. It's the church that they're not so sure of."
But it could appeal to people of all ages. Pierce notes that when his 82-year-old father recently died, the people that gathered around for the funeral, besides his family, were those his father ran across through work in varied occupations as a grocer, a real estate agent, and proprietor of a Christian bookstore.
Men in action
It's this celebration of the active that seems to be the crux of male spirituality. Talk to those who have thought seriously about male spirituality among American baby boomers, and they come to the conclusion that men are different from women, particularly in the way they approach spirituality.
Leaders in male spirituality in the church note that attracting younger men is one of their most difficult tasks. Some argue that younger men—immersed in the world of work and raising families—are perhaps not ready for exploring such issues.
Lenny Sclafani, 65, is a deacon for the Diocese of Brooklyn, New York and has been leading various men's spirituality groups around New York City for decades. A former police officer, he traces his own spiritual awakening to a Cursillo weekend when he was 37.
As women reach mid-life, they have a tendency to move beyond the area of family life and into the wider world. For men, says Sclafani, "the challenge is to go inward" after decades of competing in the wider world.
Jay Bowes, 63, a professional educator, has led small groups of men on retreats at the Mercy Center in Madison, Connecticut. The goal, he says, is to make men comfortable in sharing their spiritual selves through a process that emphasizes informal conversations and avoids formal retreat presentations.
It's men in their 50s and 60s who often feel a need to connect with their spiritual selves, says Bowes. "Younger men often don't stay," he says. "They are often not at a point in their lives to ask the questions."
It's not to say that groups for younger men don't exist. Sean O'Malley has been part of such a group for nearly two decades, as nine of his friends from the Chicago area get together each year for a Lenten retreat.
While they may not have grown old together, they have reached middle age. Most have just passed the magic 50, while O'Malley himself is 47. He's found that the tone of their retreat—no drum beating or mountain climbs, instead relying on friendly dinners, reflection talks, and quiet time—has changed over the years.
The early years focused on the issues surrounding establishing young families. "The last two years it has evolved more into discussions about death. We're starting to lose parents," he says. As his friends get older, he says, there's more emphasis on slowing down, enjoying the time they have together. They also do informal mentoring—O'Malley still has young children, while his friends, whose children are now in college, can offer advice on parenting.
Still, that deep level of quiet, shared reflection is relatively rare among men.
"Masculine spirituality emphasizes that doing, or acting, is the primary way of developing a spirituality—not hearing, not talking, not reflecting," says Rohr, who notes that reflection comes after action for many men.
Ciangio agrees. She says that perhaps the best model for male spirituality might come from the American institution that arguably reaches men the most: the National Football League. The NFL is geared to intense activity, followed by analysis, whether that be from sportscasters or around the water cooler on Monday morning. It's a model that parishes should explore when contemplating reaching out to men, she says.
One such man might well be Bartels. A New York Jets football fan, Bartel's spirituality is on an active—definitely not on a monastic—contemplative level. Still, with the demands of family, work, and of course, weekend basketball, he finds time to regularly tap into the divine.
"I do a lot of praying, mostly in the shower. It's the only quiet time I have," he says. Encouraging that kind of reflection as part of an active life remains the challenge of male spirituality for American baby boomers.
This article appeared in the December 2007 issue of U.S. Catholic (Vol. 72, No. 12, pages 18-23).
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Look what my parents gave me last weekend. Isn't it just gorgeous? But this post is not about Peonies...
It should have been about the progress I've made with my Clematis. Unfortunately my shoulder, neck and elbow are hurting too much to work with my coloured pencils right now. Especially working on the easel makes it even worse. That's a bit ironic because I started that big drawing on my easel to sit straight up and therefore it would be better for my neck.But that Clematis will be there later. I took many sketches and studies of it so (with all the reference photos I took) I will be able to continue that drawing in a month.
So to prevent myself from falling into a large gap of boredom I went to Eenrum last weekend to visit "De Kleine Plantage" again. Summer/Autumn bulbs from Hein Meeuwissen and Rita van der Zalm were there. So I had a drooling time at their stand. I had a few Dahlias planned for my garden but what I really wanted to buy were some wonderful looking bulbs. Flowers were less important. I also bought another Arisaema griffithii rhizome. Hopefully I will get some results from it this year.
The bulbs I bought are really nice and I started to draw the most beautiful one almost immediately. The problem was that I couldn't finish it the day after because we had a birthday party here. So the bulb was already two days in the house when I actually could start painting it. Unlike all the other bulbs I bought, this one started to grow as soon it felt the warm temperatures inside my house. Next time I'll try not to forget to put my bulbs in the fridge until I can actually draw it. But let me show you... always better than words, no?
This is the bulb I'm talking about. Isn't it a beauty? Sprekelia formosissima this is. I was so in love with the silver and dark brown skin in combination with the lovely pink sprouts. I took this photo on the same day that I bought it.
Now here is the bulb I painted only two days later:
You see how fast it's growing? And even when I sat painting it, the flower-buds kept moving and growing... So I have to paint fast. Fortunately I'm almost finished with the buds now and I can soon start to paint the rest of the bulb but I'd better hurry with that too before the flowers will open. Yikes!!!
The rest of the bulbs I bought? Here they are:
Hippeastrum Sonatini 'Helios'. A hardy Amaryllis with very light green-yellow small flowers. I didn't like the bulb so much but the flowers looked amazing. Couldn't resist :P
This is Lilium 'Pink Perfection'. I'm not crazy about Lilies but this one I bought because the colours in the bulb are so pretty.
And finally some of the most beautiful bulbs I know: Narcissus 'Paperwhite'. Again, I'm not a fan of Narcissus flowers but the bulbs I adore. Look at the rich dark brown and shiny skin! Mouthwatering beauties....
So I'll be busy painting to rest my shoulder and elbow. I don't mind... I love bulbs!!!


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Photo Chat. A picture says 1,000 words. But Photo Chat says even more.
Photo Chat allows you and a friend to communicate by passing photos back and forth. You can draw right on your photo, send it to a friend, and they can draw on the same photo and send it back. You can even add a caption to a photo. Or attach a blank page and send notes along with your photos.
It's perfect for anyone who wants to work collaboratively by sending photos and sketches back and forth. The drawing interface is pretty elaborate and there are some neat functions built in, like multiple brushes, text captions, unlimited undo's and the ability to zoom in on a photo to add detail.
It's like text messaging, but a lot more fun! Photo Chat allows you to view your chat log as tiny thumbnails. And you can reply to any of the photos in your log. The application will even let you know what time a photo was created.
Photo Chat makes it easy to find your friends. You can search for other users by email address. Once you find your friends, add them to your contact list in the application. And even includes a Photo Buddy - someone to chat with right from the start.
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Snap a photo and point out the exact part of an image you want someone to see.
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