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PGCE with QTS full time
- Accredited body
- University of Hertfordshire
- Financial support
- Student finance if you're eligible
- Qualification
PGCE with QTS
A postgraduate certificate in education (PGCE) with qualified teacher status (QTS) will allow you to teach in state schools in England and may allow you to teach in other parts of the UK.
It may also allow you to teach overseas, though you should always check what qualifications are needed in the country you'd like to teach in.
Many PGCE courses include credits that count toward a Master's degree.
- Course length
- 1 year
- Date you can apply from
- 8 October 2019
- Date course starts
- September 2020
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- https://www.challonershigh.com/about-us/challoners-high-bucks-hub-train-to-teach
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- Training with disabilities and other needs
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About the course
The PGCE Secondary course is a full time, one year Initial Teacher Education qualification introducing you to the requirements for teaching to the 11 – 16 age range. Where appropriate, opportunities to experience post 16 provision will be available. It has been designed to enable you to demonstrate evidence of having met the Teachers' Standards that lead to Qualified Teacher Status. Whilst undertaking the University-led PGCE route into teaching you will work towards securing 60 Master's level credits. This is an integral part of the programme. We strongly believe that innovative and effective teaching and learning is made possible through a teacher's full engagement with research informed practice and underpinning theories of learning. This is fostered in two modules and developed through School Based Training. You will be well supported in becoming a critically reflective teacher capable of inspiring pupils to learn, achieve and flourish.
You will be supported and taught by specialist tutors with excellent experience, knowledge and research informed expertise. Partnership schools provide opportunities for you to learn about pedagogical approaches relevant to your subject specialism and the professional responsibilities of all teachers.
You will have two School Based Training placements, where, with the support of a teacher mentor and a university subject tutor, you will develop your skills to become an excellent classroom teacher. Training to teach is exciting, rewarding and demanding. By the end of the course you will be well prepared for employment as a Newly Qualified Teacher (NQT).
Interview process
The ability to train to teach is assessed first on application and then at interview. The interview day is a two-way process in which we encourage all applicants to ask questions to ensure that our PGCE course is suitable for them.
We are looking to select student teachers who:
- have the passion, commitment and enthusiasm to teach their specialist subject in secondary schools
- have a strong knowledge, understanding and interest of the specialist subject that they wish to train to teach in
- are committed to working with children and adolescents and improving their educational outcomes
- have an understanding of the role of the teacher and the demands of the teaching profession
- have excellent communication and interpersonal skills
- have the ability to reflect upon what they are doing and can respond well to feedback
- are resilient and able to work under pressure
How school placements work
Schools in the University of Hertfordshire schools' partnership have a proven track record of strong engagement with Initial Teacher Education. Schools are evaluated and monitored in relation to the quality and effectiveness of school based training provision. School's commit to enact the terms of the University of Hertfordshire Partnership for Initial Teacher Education.
During the course you will undertake School Based Training in two contrasting secondary schools:
- The first school placement will take place between September and December
- The second school placement will take place between January and June Your School Based Training will total a minimum of 120 days.
This School Direct unsalaried placement is full-time, with four days a week spent in the secondary school and one day a week spent at the University of Hertfordshire.
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You may also be eligible for a loan while you study – note that you'll have to apply for undergraduate student finance.
Find out about financial support if you're from outside the UK.
Honours degree (2.2 or higher) from a UK university. Usually the degree should have a minimum 50% content of the subject applied for. English language and mathematics GCSE grade 4 or above and Science grade 4 or above for primary teacher training or a qualification recognised as equivalent by the University. Equivalent overseas qualifications are accepted when recognised as comparable by NARIC. We may require demonstration of English language proficiency through IELTS (Academic version) with an overall score of 6.5 (minimum of 6.0 in each band). Contact us for clarification on non-standard qualifications: degree content or GCSE requirement.
Personal qualities
In your application and during the interview process, you will need to demonstrate an ability to train to teach through the following:
- Genuine care for children's learning, progress and achievement
- A commitment and passion for your subject specialism
- Your motivation and interest in training to teach
- Excellent interpersonal and communication skills
- A commitment to working with children and adolescents and improving their educational outcomes
- The ability to be organised, adaptable and resilient
- A willingness to work and learn from others and to be responsive to feedback
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You will be required to complete a Disclosure and Barring Service (DBS) check and a Declaration of Disqualification by Association form. You will also need to respond to targeted and relevant health questions. Guidance will be provided after you have been offered a place. We recommend that you undertake observation time in a state secondary school prior to interview but this is not essential. Activities to support observation in school - either before or after interview - that you may find useful
About the training provider
The Challoner's High Bucks Hub forms part of the Herts and Bucks Teaching School Alliance (TSA). Collectively we have considerable experience of training teachers and recognise and value the enthusiastic contribution that they make to our school communities. We offer School Direct salaried and unsalaried teacher training routes across the full range of curriculum subjects. The training programme is structured to allow trainees to develop the skills required by teachers to teach the subject that they are training in and to develop specific expertise for making a distinctive contribution to practise in their settings. A Subject Mentor directs the development of subject knowledge for teaching in school settings. All schools within the TSA employ a Professional Mentor to oversee and quality assure the provision of training within the school. The programme enables trainees to have a clear understanding of learning theories and child development and how this impacts on student learning and informs their own development as a teacher. Trainees will have the opportunity to spend time in one of the other partnership schools to ensure a contrasting and comprehensive experience. As well as first class mentoring in school, trainees will participate in three full-day conferences and shared professional studies sessions. Bespoke training in behaviour management is provided. These will enhance learning and professional development as well as providing a valuable opportunity to forge relationships beyond their immediate context. Feedback from trainees is extremely positive with all trainees securing Newly Qualified Teaching roles for the following academic year.
About the accredited body
The University of Hertfordshire is a leading regional provider of Initial Teacher Education. Consistently high achieving in its Ofsted inspections and in the Guardian and Times League tables, The School of Education has an excellent record of employment for trainees on their Initial Teacher Education programmes.
The University of Hertfordshire has achieved the top gold ranking in the Government's Teaching Excellence Framework 2018. The gold award recognises the outstanding teaching at the University and is valid for up to three years.
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Training to be a teacher can be very rewarding, but also tiring and, at times, frustrating. We are here to assist trainees through both the "peaks and troughs" of their school placements and hope that the experience is enjoyable, professionally satisfying and personally fulfilling.
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Throughout the trainee's time at school the Subject Mentor will provide professional support and guidance and will have weekly scheduled meetings with the trainee. This process will be overseen by the Professional Mentor. In addition to the more formal aspects of the training, however, it is hoped that the trainee will regard both the mentor and the professional mentor as confidantes and that he or she will be able to turn to both should difficulties arise.
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Finding out?
When and how did Sakura find out about the Kyuubi? I think this is something that should be noted somewhere. Possibly for each of the Konoha Rookies. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 00:52, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
- Probably some time over the time skip from Tsunade or her research. Why do you feel noting something like that would be necessary in any way? --Cerez365™ 01:29, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
During episode 'The Retired Granny's Determination' (Shippuden season 1 episode 12). The info is important, because out of everyone in rookie nine, kishi has decided to show us just Sakura's reaction to the news. It's also important info if narusaku is ever going to happen. Sky89 (talk) 16:00, October 28, 2011 (UTC)
Chakra Scalpel
Chakra Scalpel is a jutsu Kabuto used in battle offesnsively, has Sakura ever done that?—This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
- Only to use the Delicate Illness Extraction Technique. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 06:37, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it appear to her jutsus(infobox) then? VanillaSky126.96.36.199 (talk) 13:40, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
- We have some problems with the infobox system. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 13:46, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it appear to her jutsus(infobox) then? VanillaSky184.108.40.206 (talk) 13:40, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
Sakura Blizzard
Why is this in her infobox? I thought Movie moves weren't added. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 08:29, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Must be a bug in the system. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 08:56, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
is it just me or in chapter 47 when sasuke and sakura are frightened by Orochimaru's killing intent does she wet herself? --188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:55, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
- Just you. It's the forest floor.--Cerez365™ 23:06, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
- So she just happend to sit in a puddle?--184.108.40.206 (talk) 23:09, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know what it is exactly, it's possibly water. It could be moss/forest vegetation but if you look back a few pages you'll see it all over the ground.Cerez365™ 23:35, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
- yes but think about the look on Sasuke's face when he looks at her. he wouldn't be that suprised if it was just shaking with shear terror because he was the exact same way at the time.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 00:00, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't know what it is exactly, it's possibly water. It could be moss/forest vegetation but if you look back a few pages you'll see it all over the ground.Cerez365™ 23:35, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
lol --Elveonora (talk) 01:50, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
wow is she really hated so much that she is the only member of team 7 without the introduction quote? —This unsigned comment was made by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs) .
- Um, no. It's not hate. It's because her introductory quote didn't exactly display her character like the other 3's did. Skitts (talk) 07:21, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
No info?
Umm... There's no information on this page O_O --Kh530 (talk) 03:36, March 16, 2012 (UTC)
Love Interests
I am sick and tired of people saying "Though she is deeply saddened by what Sasuke has become, it is shown that she is in love with him nonetheless." And what proof do they have? The "I'm in love with someone else" thing in Chapters 539 and 540. Does anyone else but me have an open mind about Sakura's feelings? Here's what I think. If Sakura loved Sasuke, she would be thinking about Sasuke when she said "I'm in love with someone else" and have a type of hint of happiness or love on her face. But she thinks of Sasuke when the Iwa Shinobi said "If it's someone that you like, he's bound to be a good person" and she looks saddened when she thinks of Sasuke. Does anyone agree with me when I say that she is GUILTY from ever having feelings for Sasuke, by the look on her face? Why can't people keep an open mind?—This unsigned comment was made by AyanoPhoenixFairy (talk • contribs) .
- More like being sad over who the person she loves became. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 22:49, April 11, 2012 (UTC)
Dude she was JUST thinking about Sasuke. Until and unless she says "I love (Put random person's name here)" then we can't say for sure. Sakura's feelings are not yet confirmed.—This unsigned comment was made by AyanoPhoenixFairy (talk • contribs) .
- I don't really care about Sakura, because she's the character I hate the most. But there's nothing wrong with it. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me) 10:10, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
There's nothing wrong with what?--AyanoPhoenixFairy (talk) 10:18, April 12, 2012 (UTC)
Yes. I'm sick of the plain denial on this site sometimes. I've told people to put their preferences aside before. Now too, please don't infer facts that aren't clearly present. All we can say is that she thinks of Sasuke (who lokes kinda scary tbh) with a depressed look. That's it. --Narutodude (talk) 04:17, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
- I don't see any preferences, really. In said chapter, when random shinobi guy says 'Whoever they are, they must be a great person!', she sadly thinks of Sasuke. Now, that's not to say she may or may not have been feeling guily about having loved him before as someone above pointed out, but at the very least given the context, that's the least speculatory thing. Skitts (talk) 04:51, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
My point exactly. No other conclusions should be drawn. --Narutodude (talk) 04:59, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes and there's no more thing to discuss here. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 05:37, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Nice to know SOME PEOPLE don't jump to conclusions :)--188.8.131.52 (talk) 08:15, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes dude. —IndxcvNovelist (Talk to Me|My Wiki) 08:30, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
Okay, who the heck reverted the edit? Please, if you have a problem with the simple thing illustrated in the manga, say so on the talk page. Do not under any circumstances post things that you think are true but are decided untrue on the talk page. Someone please revert edit, since I can't exactly login from here.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 13:34, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
This should be rewritten. If anybody would bother to read it, it describes Sakura as ugly, shallow, and emphisises her bad qualities. At one point it even says "Hahaha" as a sentence. No matter how you feel about Sakura, opinions don't belong in an article. —This unsigned comment was made by 22.214.171.124 (talk • contribs) .
- You must be reading an old revision of the article, those edits were reversed almost as soon as they happened. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 11:56, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
I was reading through Personality section and what do I find? Half of it looks like it was written by a shipper. I don't know how this stuff keeps getting approved. Listen I understand you all have your favorite ships, but the purpose of these articles is to present facts about the characters, not for people to present their opinions as facts.—This unsigned comment was made by 184.108.40.206 (talk • contribs) .
- Firstly, machines don't edit here, people do. Following that I have two questions.
- A shipper is a person who believes that certain characters are in love or belong together. TricksterKing (talk) 11:25, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh. Well I'm tired of beating that horse. If it were for I, there would be no mention of feelings or love (Shinobi Rule #25) But because we're an encyclopaedia, everything must be accounted for. However, if you feel that part seems a bit too shippy feel free to still mention it here.--Cerez365™(talk) 11:54, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
I can't see the "(anime only)" above her parents' names... Is this right? Abe 18:04,7/26/2012
They aren't anime-only. They are Kishi's creations, he always wanted to include them in the manga but didn't find the right opportunity, and introducing them this late would be pointless, as few give a fuck about who are Sakura's parents. He introduced them in the upcoming movie instead, and animators made an episode to introduce them in the "canon" as well.--Elveonora (talk) 18:28, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
- They never had made a debut in manga, so it IS anime/movie only.--Spcmn (talk) 18:39, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
But wouldn't "anime only" indicate their canonical status?--Elveonora (talk) 18:59, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
As far I know, this wiki is very strict to where does something appear, however I don't know how do you deal with the canonical question and stuff. But the fact is that these guys only appeared in Anime and Movie, and should be treated like such. Abe 19:08,7/26/2012
- Indeed we usually use "anime only" as a indicate of non-canonical information, but this isn't the case. I vote to use a "~~movie and anime only" and explain their value in trivia space.--Spcmn (talk) 19:11, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
- Don't you already have something (a character, a jutsu) that appeared in Anime and Movie only? We just need to do the same as it. Abe 19:18,7/26/2012
It's not necessary, their infobox already states that they appear in "anime and movie" thus there's no reason for "anime only" when it's obvious, it would also confuse people about their canonical status--Elveonora (talk) 19:38, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
i think is canonical in sakura bio they are her parent the name are created by kishimoto and even the design... but the fact they appear only in the anime and movie is important only on theyr page. this is different from hinata and hanabi mother because are created by the author --Nitram86 (talk) 19:49, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
I searched a bit and found this: Choji's Mom is listed in his infobox as anime-only. Shouldn't we follow this? I mean, just because Sakura's parents appeared in movie too doesn't seem a reason to treat it canonical... Abe 19:57,7/26/2012
They are canonical according to Kishimoto's interviews. The only reason why they are yet to appear in manga is because they are minor and it's too late, as the story is reaching a conclusion--Elveonora (talk) 20:15, July 26, 2012 (UTC)
Oh Kishi said that in an interview? Then it's fine. Sorry didn't know about it. Abe 20:29,7/26/2012
Until they do appear in the manga, they should be listed as anime only. However, there are technical issues it seems, which make it very hard to make something appear as anime-only in an infobox when it's actually anime and movie. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 00:23, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
is it worth showing?
what would you say if this was put up to show how much the notion to kill sasuke affected her? like how learning his clan's hatred filled past affected sasuke. Just tell me your hate-less opinion. Justin Holland (talk) 20:38, October 27, 2012 (UTC)
So i've heard several times that Sakura loves being barefoot and you can see hear barefoot really often in the anime. So why not add it to the Trivia 188.8.131.52 (talk) 03:52, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
- It is false. I don't recall seeing her barefoot in the anime that often. Jacce | Talk | Contributions 05:31, November 2, 2012 (UTC)
Ability to transfer chakra just like Tsunade
In chapter 613 it was shown that she is also able to transfer chakra to others as seen when she was holding up Darui as he fires Laser Circus NoJutsu (talk) 08:44, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
I think it's common medical ninja stuff--Elveonora (talk) 13:50, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
So should it be mentioned under medical ninjutsu page? NoJutsu (talk) 19:09, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
No. Nothing in the chapter suggests she's doing anything she has never done before. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:01, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
And when has she done that before. I will go ahead and edit it. NoJutsu (talk) 21:29, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
All she's shown doing is putting her hands on Darui's back. As far as we know, she's just healing him. It's pointless to try make any theory at this point. Omnibender - Talk - Contributions 21:44, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
You have a point. Gotcha.NoJutsu (talk) 03:22, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
OMG you people that work on this information are horrible at it. you all really have no common reasoning, and it makes me embarrassed to have contributed at all in the past. omniwhatever, im looking at you. and if i knew anything about computers, i would just create my own info site. i can literally name 4 things now that prove your incompetence; which i will soon enough. to start off with, sakura did so transfer chakra. we've seen darui launch dozens of those lasers before, and in the chapter before last he barely managed ten. you can see the edge of sakura's hand and there is no glowing going on whatoever. she wasn't using a scalpel or sewing thread; which would be ridiculous anyways, do to the circumstances. SHE WASN'T EVEN LOOKING AT HIM. so if you believe she was giving him a back massage or something, your stupid. and yes im going to berated you people for all the deletions of previous things I've written (in sed DISCUSSION sections). even if it's because i don't sig (i think that's the correct word) properly. i've already stated im bad with computers. 3. 184.108.40.206 1:09 December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Look here slutwhatever you want to call yourself, I'm going to try real hard to be civil with you as I respond to this. First of all shut the hell up about incompetence, and your shame because I would bet every good edit a vandal has made to one you have and there would probably be little to no difference between the two, if not to say the vandal was more helpful. Show us what part in that frame you see Sakura's hands showing at any part on Darui's back when one of the beams from his Ranton is covering that area. It could very well be that Sakura is transferring chakra to Darui, just as easily as she could be healing his wounds. Caution is supposed to be preferred over speculation, I won't have you here deriding good editors out of blatant ignorance. You feel the people here are incompetent there's a more than simple enough way to solve that: stop coming here.--Cerez365™(talk) 07:49, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
i can only assume if i direct you to darui's back you going to just say that that's the inside of her sleeve having the the shadow from the the laser cast upon it. look at the bottom of the sleeve and you can clearly see the sleeve going further. or maybe she just has weird cut sleeve for some reason. and even if that wasn't the case how much farther do you think her hands would be? look at even the smallest mystic palm and you will see at least a few inches of lenght. or do you need your eyes examined? Shee's lightning pillar is ninjutsu. it's been stated in the info books and now the manga. thus that move he used before was a one two combo. or do you just assume we are constantly being lied to now? that is not a steam furnace on Han's back. after actually LOOKING at the manga pictures, you can see there is a good handful of times it's not giving off steam (especially when he is in the air). although i suppose his 'furnace' is just on the fritz. and don't even get me start on the lack of information on the rock clone jutsu. tell me if akatsuchi's rock clone couldn't do jutsus why even bother? keep in mind akatsuchi needs old man hand on his back to fly, but go ahead and think that onoki would rather nose dive to levitate the rock clone instead of just creating an already floating one himself. by the way that whole creating clones of other people is a technique in itself. we have a clay kabuto right there with them, and later on kabuto references it when he move muu in front of the raikage. by the way the rock clone and steam armor info was the work of mine that was erased in the past. if you were curious.220.127.116.11 3:20 December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- What you are calling part of Sakura's w/e is part of Darui's FLAK JACKET.
- The rest of your post is utter garbage. You sound like a crazed conspirational theorist and I'm not going to entertain this discussion any longer. I only responded to this bcause I won't have you deriding good editors, and making yourself sound like some martyr.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:18, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- ALthough it wouldn't be unrealistic for Sakura to know that technique, it is just not stated. I somehow understand where you're coming from sleuther, but seriously, if you're insulting everybody who isn't sharing your mind, you achieve absolutely nothing here. This talk page is not the right place to tell us your opinion about the wiki in general either. Try to calm down next time and try it again in a serious way. Norleon (talk) 15:40, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Just to make sure, no-one ever said that she wasn't using the technique, because it is more than possible and not some impossible feat for anyone. But because there is so much room for doubt, we do what we always do, we mention it without being specific or absolute.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:42, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Martyr? more like SmartEr. Not sakura's w/e; her hand i said her hand. at least don't halfss with this argument like you do this site. Darui has the same jacket that he; and everyone, has always had. his jacket didn't just sprout some weird flap to sustain your argument. that is pretty speculative. Besides the fact that she isn't even looking at her 'patient'; which i guess you will just explain by saying she is useless after all. she is doing the same EXACT thing tsunade did. touching who she is assisting, giving him chakra, and staring at the enemy as if she were the one attacking. i don't recall Dan ever saying, "here's a kiss tsunade. Oh, and some chakra." yet still Dan has this ability. Onoki stating that tsunade was giving him chakra is no different than deidara out right stating that that was akatsuchi's clone. but yet still we can't clarify that. Or maybe onoki was like, "Ok akatsuchi, i can make flying clones all day long, but i don't want to use even and ounce more chakra then what i originally planned. so you will make a clone of me, and i'll get it floating and decrease it's weight." Last time i checked raitons were raitons. It's called lightning illusion because there was lightning then there was an illusion. "Oh, we don't speculate here." then i forgot it was irrevocably stated that that was a furnace on Han's back. First off, I've never saw him FEED this furnace. Second, we clearly see steam gets vented through it. How does he keep such a small furnace going with steam putting it out? wait don't tell me, force field. if we are going to be speculative (just to get some information) at least go with a more logical answer. that's most likely the whole reason for that mask funnel thing. he breathes out steam and uses that thing to evenly vent it for power stability. Need more proof it's chakra transfer? Darui has a giant sword on his back. You are claiming she is providing medical attention to a sword, and at most a small part of the left side of his back. Without even looking. Norlean, i would like to say im sorry. But, i am completely justified. Having; in the past, spent my time providing (maybe not out right stated, but easily derived) information. to the best of my abilities and in an acceptable manner. and then having these oblivious people deleting or shooing off my contributions. and im not the only one. Nojutsu up there was right and i have given proof. Norlean, i've already stated im bad with computers. my advise is don't be so uptight about something that is so imaginary. let it slide once and a while. 184.108.40.206 5:21 December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Just to make sure, no-one ever said that she wasn't using the technique, because it is more than possible and not some impossible feat for anyone. But because there is so much room for doubt, we do what we always do, we mention it without being specific or absolute.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:42, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
Kinda unrelated, but doesn't Karin's bite both restores chakra and heals wounds? Also, there's no special sound effect on that page with Sakura, is there?--Elveonora (talk) 20:54, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- If everybody would let slide such things once in a while, this wiki would just be a chaotic mess. I know that some rules of action here aren't easy to understand, especially for someone who is not a native english speaker, such as I am. And some of my contributions were also deleted, yet I don't bitch about it like it was done to anger or bully me. I already said that I somehow understand where you're coming from, but again, something like irony or cynical puns does not help you in this case. It just hinders people wanting to get involved with you or your opinion. Some people could be really offended by your text here, because it seems absolutely full of hate. If you really want to change things here, you have to be rational, and that includes the ability to accept a lost case as well. I don't want to say that you already lost here, but you should not take offence if you don't get the things here the way you want it. And you don't have to be good with computers for it.Norleon (talk) 22:12, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- well then Norleon, if your work being deleted (on sed Talk sections) wasn't to belittle you then i can only surmise that you broke your precious rules. and don't even start that Elveonara. if it weren't for sed complaint i was referring to there would be nothing there about akatsuchi, shee, han. it would all be in it's proper spot until it's erased. if the biggest loss to me breaking the rule of proper complaint placement is that only a select few get read my complaint, then big deal. i never wanted to take it upon myself to chip in, but clearly help was needed and not accepted. as far as im concerned im just a upset customer.126.96.36.199 5:52 December 15, 2012 (UTC)
By the way, good point Elveona. There isn't any sound effects on that page. I don't know if you mean for a mystic palm or charka transfer, because; if i recall, there was for chakra transfer as well. But that means at that specific moment; most likely, nothing was going on. Now why don't we go through the very few possible situations here. (1) She has healed Darui; and has become something resembling an overly touchy nurse. (2) She has taken preparing for treatment to a whole new level. (3) She has just given Darui some chakra and is striking a pose. (4)She has fallen in love with Darui. (5) She is usind Darui as a shield. Or (6) She has just met Madara. Turns out, she's celebrity shy.184.108.40.206 3:55 December 18, 2012 (UTC)
i wont interfere in the fight but i do have state a fact- neither akatsutchi nor kurosutchi need onoki to be touching them to be able to fly. this is clear in the manga and anime both. sorry sleuther Kaidynamite (talk) 04:01, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
- The only time either of them have flown was when Ōnoki cast the technique on them via touch. That much is fact. State references that show otherwise.--Cerez365™(talk) 07:52, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
oh cerez, and all you other ridiculous moderators. i see now, she is waiting, preparing for medical assistance; while also playing tag, i guess. It's just as tsunade taught her, 'you are a medical ninja. the life of all your comrades depends on you surviving. so you must hone your evasiveness by hiding behind the black guy, directly on the front line.' and it worked out so well. i wonder how many people she was able to heal while flying through the air like that. But no, this clearly wasn't a moment kishi added to reflect back on tsunade, and show a technique a master bestowed on her pupil. 18.104.22.168 12:00 February 3, 2013 (UTC)
i can see her now. 'Note to self. Hiding behind one guy is not a good defense against a giant unstoppable monster.' 18.104.22.168 12:24 February 3, 2013 (UTC)
Summoning: Slugs
Can someone provide some kind of confirmation that Sakura can summon slugs? I have a feeling it was probably mentioned in the databooks, because she has never, ever summoned a slug, in the manga OR in the anime. At least, so far as I can remember. o_O--AkasunaNoJade (talk) 05:15, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
Because she didn't? Where do you see such a mention? EDIT: if you are talking about her infobox, then visit the frontpage and read carefully. She does summon them, but It's "videogame only"--Elveonora (talk) 05:27, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, okay, thanks for that. Shouldn't her infobox be edited then to say 'videogame only'? Since it is quite distinctive, like anime-only techniques. Just a thought. I mean, I know you can just click on the page and read it there, but I dunno, it seems a bit misleading to me, at least at first glance. AkasunaNoJade (talk) 05:43, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
Umm i don't know if you know this, but only Anime and Manga Jutsu appear in the infobox on their actual page, but if you click on the Jutsu button in their infobox then it will show you all their Jutsu including movie and game stuff. Their have been alot of infbox bugs lately, one of which i've noticed mixes their game Jutsu in with their Jutsu section on their articles infobox.220.127.116.11 (talk) 06:19, December 15, 2012 (UTC) Yhwach
Please update your page. Sakura never summoned any slugs nor was is ever mentioned.
She did in the video games. And thus, we shall mention it.--Yomiko-chan (talk) 00:10, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
In the Invasion of Konoha section, "Later, Sakura thanked Sasuke for saving her, but he explained to her that it was Naruto who had saved her..."
The very next section in the Search for Tsunade Arc, "Sakura approached Sasuke thinking that he saved her but Sasuke reveals that it was Naruto much to Sasuke's dismay and Sakura looked surprised."
Is there a way to clean this up or did she really do a double-take? --Questionaredude (talk) 00:20, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
video game and movie techniques aren't supposed to be showing up in character's infoboxes, it's not working properly atm, but if you check in here and here it mentions "game only"--Elveonora (talk) 00:23, February 26, 2013 (UTC)
Safe to say fickle?
Would it be okay to say that sakura is fickle? Because i feel that i have finally found the word that describes a main point about her. She has her good points, no mistake about that, but i'll be honest, she's just so fickle to me that its not even funny. Anyone who agree I got a blog page on Naruto answers. Just putting my thoughts out there. Thank You Justin Holland (talk) 23:02, March 17, 2013 (UTC)
information taken down
why has my all my information been taken down? when sakura in the anime has seen using a number of powerful kicks. below is a copy of that info posted.
In the anime, Sakura has used an ability similar to the Heavenly Foot of Pain. Sakura builds up and releases her chakra in to the heel/foot to strikes down her enemies, Sakura can kick through trees and kick over bigger tree as well as being able to kick back Sasori's compresses high-density Iron Sand shapes (Keilith (talk) 15:33, April 15, 2013 (UTC))
- If you read her physical prowess section, everything you put in the article has already been mentioned, all you did was reiterate it in a jumbled form.--Cerez365™(talk) 15:37, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
Isn't stomping ground with chakra enhanced strength the same thing Tsunade does?--Elveonora (talk) 15:49, April 15, 2013 (UTC)
i have read sakura's physical prowess section and the only bit that says anything about her kicks is Sakura can easily demolish or destroy obstacle with powerful punches or kicks the rest go's on to say about her strength lifting, punching and throwing and evasive skill that's why i posted more information about it. (Keilith (talk) 15:55, April 15, 2013 (UTC))
Possible quote worthy of being mentioned in personality as well
Sakura about Naruto: He's making us realize that he considers all of us his comrades!!! something like this. Justin Holland (talk) 00:50, May 16, 2013 (UTC)
It may need to be update
I think that the personality needs a update. Justin Holland (talk) 19:33, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
- I am not too sure what needs updated, but from glancing at it, there may be some more things that could be done in the way of Part II, specifically more recent happenings where she seems even more confident? I am not sure.--Taynio (talk) 19:40, May 26, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree Sakura's 'personality' needs an update. Sakura starting from scratch with zero powers, not being part of a powerful clan and having genin parents, to being the disciple of a hokage and probably surpassing her master just from her desire not to be lower than her teammates. Now that is determination. And many other things. VanillaSky22.214.171.124 (talk) 11:47, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
- I mean her understanding and care of naruto after hearing his reason for pushing himself to protect his comrades? Justin Holland (talk) 00:06, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
Dudes this had already been mentioned before this even happened. It's kinda obvious. Also her care for Naruto as a friend and comrade hasn't changed by a whole lot. I don't know why people see this as NaruSaku moment, I wouldn't even call it a pairing moment, but I digress. She already knew one of the reasons why he pushed himself so hard was to protect his friends.--Michma12 (talk) 01:39, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
The personality section is in need of an update. I would do so if you'd be so kind and stop undoing my edits. Fair enough on the comparison made by Minato but that entire section can be written better in a more concise way.--Reliops (talk) 23:00, May 28, 2013 (UTC)Reliops
Is it worth noting
that Sakura's personality bears some resemblance to that of Uzumaki Kushina? I think it's always been pretty obvious since we met Kushina that her personality, in particular her temper, is similar to that of Sakura. It's also been noted by Minato in chapter 631 and while I couldn't care less about the shipping wars I do think it would be a valid addition to her page. Who's with me on this?--Reliops (talk) 21:57, May 26, 2013 (UTC)Reliops
It is worth nothing because Kushina and Tsunade are similar in terms of personality as well and Sakura's been compared to Tsunade many times before as well due to her short temper and the way she retaliates, Kushina's the same way so its basically repeating the same thing over and over again.--Michma12 (talk) 01:33, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
When was Kushina compared to Tsunade? Seeing as Minato compared Sakura to his late wife, I would think it should be added to her personality.--Reliops (talk) 17:16, May 27, 2013 (UTC)Reliops
Sakura has been compared to Tsunade more than Kushina, reasons why is due to her short temper and mannerism on how she retaliates, that's what this is about. Kushina and Tsunade basically share the same personality adding it to Sakura's profile would mean nothing because there isn't a big difference. --Michma12 (talk) 21:50, May 27, 2013 (UTC)
You're using some bad circular reasoning there. The fact that Minato thinks she reminds him of his wife warrants that be at least mentioned in personality section. It's not exactly something that isn't noteworthy.--Reliops (talk) 01:03, May 28, 2013 (UTC)Reliops
Right, well I just edited it in (yay, first edit). How does that read? Look for reference 15. This is my first timing editing anything on any wiki page.--Reliops (talk) 01:15, May 28, 2013 (UTC)Reliops
And now my edits have been removed. Look, I'm all for a discussion here, an exchange of ideas and what have you, but this is just rude.--Reliops (talk) 20:50, May 28, 2013 (UTC)Reliops
You can always simply just say that Sakura is noted to be similar to both Tsunade and Kushina Uzumaki. I think it's worth mentioning. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 14:02, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Strength of a Hundred Technique (wrong). Yin Seal (correct)
After chapter 632's release, someone has added Strength of a Hundred for Sakura's techniques (and her as a user on that technique's page), when there is no specific statement that she is using that technique. She has the same seal as Tsunade yes, but it is not currently unsealed the way Tsunade's does when using the Strength of a Hundred. Therefore, until the next chapter shows her doing so, shouldn't the technique be removed and just the Yin Seal added? Miraitrunks766 (talk) 10:42, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
- How about Shizune's statement for this case? Perhaps Sakura could use it in another way, let's see that in the next chapters. —Shakhmoot (Talk) 10:48, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
- I would wait for a more proper translation--Elveonora (talk) 10:57, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Then we wait until another chapter is released. For now, she can focus the Yin Seal, she has not shown to be able to use Creation Rebirth or Strength of a Hundred.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 11:35, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
- I would wait for a more proper translation--Elveonora (talk) 10:57, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
You guys are so lame on this wiki sometimes man, what? now we don't know what the diamond on her forehead does? Like we haven't seen what Tsunade does with it? It's the Yin Seal. --220.127.116.11 (talk) 16:41, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
- No one disagrees it isn't, she is yet to use it though.--Elveonora (talk) 16:56, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
- Agreed! It seems plainly obvious already that she is capable of using the Yin Seal and at the very least Creation Rebirth. Though going by what Shizune said she is capable of using the Strength of a Hundred jutsu. It was stated outright! Hard to argue with that if you ask me but whatever. I guess we'll just have to wait and see even though we all know what will happen. How could her version be different if she learned directly from the creator herself?!--18.104.22.168 (talk) 17:52, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
I'm just saying, by Shizune words alone we have confirmation. But then again what do I know. --188.8.131.52 (talk) 18:03, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
She can use Yin Seal. Shizune's words already confirmed it. Creation Rebirth and Strength of a Hundred Techniques is a different story. NoJutsu (talk) 18:12, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
Can we change the name of the section Chakra Control to Yin Seal?--Etweens96 (talk) 21:35, May 29, 2013 (UTC)Etweens96
- No we can not.--TheUltimate3 (talk) 21:41, May 29, 2013 (UTC)
Adding the Yin Seal into her jutsu infobox
Shouldn't the yin seal be added into her infobox yet? Freedom Wall (talk) 09:42, May 30, 2013 (UTC)
Sakura's Byakugō Seal
Hi. I'm a Tumblr user and a Naruto fan; I don't have a wikia account so I cannot sign my posts. I wanted to say that you guys who edited Sakura's page are wrong, her seal in chapter 632 is called the "Byakugō" Seal, not the "Yin" Seal. I know "Byakugō" Seal sounds exactly like Tsunade's technique "Byakugō", but they are not the same. One is a seal, the other one is a technique. They are different despite the name. And they also have different Kanjis. They also translate differently in English!
Check this Tumblr post made by "Chatte", a Narutobase user(and many more) and a big Sakura fan:
Please, edit the Seal's name on Sakura's page and add it to her jutsus. Therefore you should create a new page for this Seal, because it's not Tsunade's "Byakugō", it's something new, a seal which is different than Tsunade's(at leat the name), like Shizune said.
Maybe you'll want to wait for some new chapters and explanations and I get it, but please do edit this later on.
ALSO, another thing, I'd like to tell you that part of Sakura's Trivia is wrong: "Despite being the heroine of the series, Kishimoto stated himself during the 2010 interview that Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura, this is due to the fact that because Sakura not only has a 'normal' background in comparison to Hinata but also because he has a hard time making good roles for female characters like Sakura, having stated on several occasions that he has a very hard time viewing her as the heroine of the series. However, Kishimoto also stated that he would try to have Sakura play more of a heroine role in the future."
--> Kishimoto has NEVER said Hinata would make a better heroine than his main female character, Sakura. I find that irritating because it is untrue. Check this out: http://chatteart.deviantart.com/journal/Naruto-manga-Sakura-The-Heroine-350304283
THANK YOU FOR READING! I just want that page improved, that is all :)
Btw, when are you going to edit those photos that appear first on the pages of the main characters&main supporting characters? Those photos of them from Part 1 are kinda disappointing. The animation got better than that throughout the years. They've also changed and look older.
Thanks again!
VanillaSky184.108.40.206 (talk) 11:16, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
We also agree Sakura's 'personality' needs an update. Sakura starting from scratch with zero powers, not being part of a powerful clan and having genin parents, to being the disciple of a hokage and probably surpassing her master just from her desire not to be lower than her teammates. Now that is determination. And many other things. VanillaSky18.104.22.168 (talk) 11:41, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
If you'd like to read more about Sakura's chakra, power and seal, look here: http://chatte-georgiana.tumblr.com/post/51970314932/did-sakura-possessed-this-power-all-along I believe that to be true and I think it's very good to understand for people who edit here. VanillaSky18.104.22.168 (talk) 15:37, June 2, 2013 (UTC)
- Wow my guess is the more chakra she stores the more powerful she'll become when she uses a lot of them I think she's more stronger than Chōji when he uses his Butterfly mode. Well everyone should know why she didn't used it in the past but about the name Byakugō Seal are you guys sure that its called that. Because I think its called Yin Seal w/o the word "Release". Inoyamanaka98 (talk) 16:59, June 2, 2013 (UTC)Inoyamanaka98
No i think she choose not to use it because she diden't fill it with enough chakra yet so i guess that throughout the whole series she was storing chakra in her forhead until the Seal was readyWhiteraven1 (talk) 17:38, June 2, 2013 (UTC)


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GIOVE-B spacecraft in good health
After its successful launch by a Soyuz Rocket from Baiknour on 27 April and accurate insertion into its target orbit by the Fregat autonomous upper stage,
Platform commissioning includes the on-board verification of all primary and redundant platform subsystems, namely telemetry and telecommand, propulsion, power, thermal control, and attitude and orbit control.
Once the spacecraft platform has been commissioned, switch-on of the various payload elements can begin. First signal transmission is anticipated in the coming days.
Charging the batteries
Since the spacecraft had been running on battery power from just before liftoff - throughout the lengthy series of manoeuvres performed by Fregat to reach the intended orbit - the first tasks after separation from Fregat were to deploy the solar arrays and achieve Sun-pointing, so that battery charging could begin.
The first-choice method to turn the spacecraft for Sun-pointing is to use the reaction wheels.
Use of the reaction wheels for initial pointing is the first choice because, once they are operational, the supply of electricity from the solar arrays is essentially unlimited. However, due to the battery discharge that occurred during pre-orbital flight, the spacecraft operations manual only allows a restricted time for these manoeuvres to be accomplished.
Attitude and orbit control
GIOVE-B's reaction wheels were slow to respond and stable Sun-pointing was not achieved within the specified time period. As a consequence, around five hours after launch it was decided to put the satellite into safe mode, and Sun-pointing was achieved using small engines known as thrusters.
The initial underperformance of the reaction wheels was found to have occurred due to a mismatch between the on-board avionics software and the reaction wheel calibration data. This has now been corrected by the uploading of a software patch to the spacecraft, leading to nominal performance.
Use of the thrusters is the second-choice method because one of the factors determining the operational life of
Payload switch-on
Once the
The final units to be turned on will be the transmit chain consisting of


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Soon enough, even Eichler owners will have to give up their vintage toilets.
Californians who live in houses built before 1994, including all mid-century modern owners, have historically been exempt from the state's water-saving requirements, under which new houses must be built with low-flow toilets and shower heads. Come January, that will change. A new state law requires houses, apartments, and businesses to replace their fixtures with low-flow models, regardless of when they were built. It's the first of its kind in the nation, and it will affect every Eichler, Streng, Alexander, and other mid-century modern home owners.
The Ventura County Star (syndicated by HuffPo) has a neat summary:
Starting Jan. 1, they won't be able to get final approval for a variety of home improvements -- from replacements of windows to a room addition -- unless they have low-flow plumbing fixtures throughout their properties.
By 2017, the law requires all pre-1994 homes to be retrofitted with low-flow plumbing fixtures plus disclosure of noncomplying fixtures when owners sell. Businesses and multifamily buildings also must disclose whether they meet the law when selling property by that date.
So where does that leave the Eichler owner who now must plan to replace toilets and shower heads? I called Paul Gerrard, with Big Blue Plumbing, based in the East Bay, to find out.
While it may sound like a burden to have to replace your home's plumbing fixtures, Gerrard says the benefits outweigh the hassle and expense. Low-flow plumbing technology has come a long way since Seinfeld took on 'The Shower Head' in 1996.
"Low-flow toilets have had a bit of a bad rap," Gerrard says. "Originally, manufacturers were required to reduce the amount of water per flush, so they just made the tanks smaller and the mechanics stayed the same. The bowl wasn't designed to work with that low amount of water. The latest generation are designed as a complete product. The effect is they flush a lot better with less water. They've done that by increasing the flapper size – the little rubber flap that lifts when you push the lever on your tank. That used to be an inch and a half, but the low-flow toilets are a 2.5 inches in diameter. You're able to get the water into the bowl faster."
Similarly, makers of low-flow shower heads have been perfecting their design. "They do give a satisfying shower with less water," Gerrard says.
The savings are immense: "Water conservation is a real issue, and a lot of older homes have some really large-capacity toilet tanks. They can be 3.5, even 5-gallon tanks. Average person flushes 5 times a day, so that's 25 gallons per person. In a family of four, that's 100 gallons a day," Gerrard says. Low-flow toilets now routinely use less than a gallon and a half, and shower heads save a gallon a minute.
The best advice for homeowners who want to get their upgrade out of the way: Keep it simple. Those ultra low-flow models with separate buttons for nos. 1 and 2? Forget it. "I don't believe the savings in water conservation is so great that it's necessary to add all that cleverness to a toilet tank. It's all stuff that can go wrong."
Gerard's go-to recommendation is the Eco-Drake by Toto, which uses 1.28 gallons per flush. "Toto is really, in my opinion, the leader in the ultra low-flow toilets, as far as what they've done with their manufacturing to make them work better. It seems like everybody follows what Toto does."
As for shower heads, Gerrard says he relies on the Grohe Relaxa. It's not the cheapest on the market, but "I like the shower pattern, as far as the different positions and the different flow that you get from them. I also like that we never get complaints about them after we install them."
Installing fixtures is not the most labor-intensive job a plumber can do – so much of the expense will be in the fixtures themselves. But Gerrard was reluctant to name a specific price for such an upgrade. Suffice to say, the sooner it gets done, the more water gets saved, and that's a good thing all around.


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Pippy!!! grr!! Just wait until I get over to the chat thread...
Marsupial, the "My Favourites" and "My Buddies" links are only for premiere members, as far as I know.
"My favourites" helps you keep track of your favourite threads on the boards, rather like the notify me option.
"My buddies" is kind of like IM for TORC.. you have a list of name of all your friends on TORC, ans you can see who's online or not and where they've last posted and so on.
Hope that helped.


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A Sandwich a Day: Vinnie's Sub Shop
Reviews of Chicago sandwiches.
A wall of black and white photos, 65 cent cups of potato salad, a tiny seating area, and an Italian flag on the sign out front: Vinnie's takes pride in its status as a classic Italian sub shop. It's the kind of place that immediately makes you long for a gigantic sub and the feeling that you've been coming here for years. While it will take some time to fulfill the latter, you can satisfy that sub craving easily.
The turkey daily special ($6.75) comes on nine inches of fresh Italian bread and features a good inch of thinly sliced turkey breast, tomato, basil, and pesto mayo. It's that last condiment that turns this good turkey sub into a great one. The combination of the crackly, fresh bread, the saltiness of the turkey, and the cool creaminess of the pesto mayo make for one satisfying sandwich experience—an experience that is only enhanced by the familial atmosphere.
Perhaps the best part of this turkey sub? When I asked how often it was the daily special, the answer, delivered with a laugh and a wry smile, was "Always."
Vinnie's Sub Shop
1204 West Grand Avenue, Chicago, IL 60642 (map)
All products linked here have been independently selected by our editors. We may earn a commission on purchases, as described in our affiliate policy.


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We continue our look back at Gameweek 15 with a recap of three matches held on Wednesday evening.
We've got all the goals, assists, injury news, Fantasy talking points and relevant manager quotes from the matches at Molineux, Goodison Park and Craven Cottage.
Wolverhampton Wanderers 2-1 Chelsea
- Goals: Raul Jimenez (£6.0m), Diogo Jota (£5.9m) | Ruben Loftus-Cheek (£5.2m)
- Assists: Morgan Gibbs-White (£4.3m), Matt Doherty (£5.0m) | Eden Hazard (£11.0m)
Just as Bournemouth's budget/mid-price assets are making it difficult to look elsewhere despite the downturn in their fixture difficulty, so too Wolves' cut-price Fantasy options keep delivering in spite of some tricky matches.
Raul Jimenez (£6.0m) was on the scoresheet at Molineux on Wednesday evening and now has two goals and three assists since Wolves' fixtures took a turn for the worse in Gameweek 11.
Matt Doherty (£5.0m), meanwhile, followed up his goal at Cardiff with an assist for Diogo Jota's (£5.9m) winner and registered as many penalty box touches as any other Wolves player last night.
Nuno Espirito Santo tweaked his formation from a 3-4-3 to a 3-4-1-2, with Jota playing alongside Jimenez up front and Morgan Gibbs-White (£4.3m) lining up behind the strike pair on his first ever Premier League start.
The decision looked like a savvy one when Gibbs-White teed up Jimenez for Wolves' equaliser and it will be interesting to see if Santo sticks with both system and personnel going forward, with the 18-year-old midfielder available at such an attractive price in FPL.
Santo said of the teenage prospect:
He brought energy. He brought focus. He has a lot of things to improve on but together we are going to try and build something.
While Ruben Neves (£5.0m) will potentially return to the starting XI at Newcastle on Sunday after serving a one-match ban, it is unlikely the Portuguese midfielder would be deployed in such an advanced position and it would surely be Romain Saiss (£4.2m) who would make way upon his return.
Saiss had shifted from defence to central midfield last night to accommodate the excellent Ryan Bennett's (£4.2m) return at centre-back.
In truth, this was more of a backs-to-the-wall performance from Wolves than a free-flowing attacking display.
Jimenez nodded two half-chances over in the first half but apart from their two goals, the hosts didn't force Kepa Arrizabalaga (£5.5m) into another save.
Chelsea dominated the possession and chances, though their goal came courtesy of a huge slice of luck – Ruben Loftus-Cheek's (£5.2m) effort taking a wicked deflection on its way past Rui Patricio (£4.6m).
Eden Hazard (£11.0m) has suffered almost a million FPL sales since Gameweek 11 but the Belgian looked a threat at Molineux, without being at his scintillating best.
Hazard had an excellent chance to open the scoring early on when firing straight at Patricio and hit a couple of rasping efforts over the Wolves' goalkeeper's crossbar.
No player on show had more efforts on goal or created more chances than Hazard, who picked up a slightly fortunate assist for Loftus-Cheek's effort but who should have collected another attacking return when Willian (£7.4m) wasted the Belgian winger's chipped through ball.
Willian and Alvaro Morata (£8.7m) failed to impress, while Marcos Alonso's (£7.1m) owners may be getting a little jittery after another unconvincing display from the Chelsea left-back.
As excellent an FPL option as the attack-minded defender undoubtedly is, the worry from a Fantasy manager's point of view is that his all-round performances have been well below-par in recent weeks, with his defensive positioning (a long-held criticism of the player) and final ball lacking.
Maurizio Sarri is renowned for his loyalty in his players but a continuation of this woeful form will surely see Emerson (£5.2m) handed a start before too long – something Alonso's owners can ill-afford given his price tag and the Christmas period looming.
All is not well with Chelsea in general at the moment, with Sarri expressing concern about his players' response after being pegged back to 1-1:
I think that we played very well for 55 minutes. After the first goal, at 1-1, it was an accident because we were in full control of the match. We were suddenly another team, without the right distances, our football, I don't know why.
I am really very worried, not for the result but for the fact we didn't react to the first goal. We didn't react at all, so I am really very worried for this.
Wolves XI (3-4-1-2): Patricio; Bennett, Coady, Boly; Doherty, Moutinho, Saiss, Vinagre; Gibbs-White (Costa 72'); Jimenez (Dendoncker 81'), Jota (Cavaleiro 88').
Chelsea XI (4-3-3): Kepa; Azpilicueta, Rudiger, Christensen, Alonso; Kante (Kovacic 77'), Fabregas, Loftus-Cheek; Hazard, Morata (Giroud 65'), Willian (Pedro 65').
Everton 1-1 Newcastle United
- Goals: Richarlison (£7.1m) | Salomon Rondon (£5.7m)
- Assists: None | Jacob Murphy (£4.8m)
Back on the left flank and back among the goals.
Richarlison (£7.1m) ended a three-match run without an attacking return at Goodison Park on Wednesday evening and looked more of a goal threat than he has done over the last month, drifting in from the wing and registering more shots against the Magpies than he had done in the previous three Premier League fixtures combined.
The Brazilian midfielder swept home a loose ball following a corner-kick to level the scores up on 37 minutes and could have added to his tally, seeing two close-range efforts excellently blocked by Fabian Schar (£4.6m) early on and then sending an effort wide after the interval.
No FPL midfielder recorded more attempts on goal than Richarlison in Gameweek 15.
The bad news for those Fantasy managers who are hoping that the former Watford player is now afforded an extended run in the team on the left wing is that Cenk Tosun (£6.6m), the striker brought into the side to allow Richarlison to move back to the flank, produced another ineffective display up top, wasting the best of the Toffees' chances when prodding straight at Martin Dubravka (£5.0m) from point-blank range just before half-time.
Bernard (£5.9m) and Theo Walcott (£6.3m) were handed a rest last night and would perhaps seem poised to reclaim their places in Marco Silva's starting XI next Monday, given that Tosun and Ademola Lookman (£5.1m) didn't particularly convince in their stead.
That would, of course, mean a return to the striker's role for Richarlison for the visit of his former employers.
Silva discussed his team selection after full-time:
Since the first day I was here, Lookman has shown me every time [in training] and when he has come in during games that he deserved the chance to start.
Not because Theo Walcott or Bernard weren't performing well – but because we had a game just three days ago, a tough, intense match. I made three changes and could have made more, because I thought in the second half some of the players were more tired than normal.
Lookman performed like I expected. He had some good moments – some others not so good, like the team. Cenk was the same and he worked hard for the team.
Owners of Gylfi Sigurdsson (£7.5m) and Lucas Digne (£4.9m) endured a frustrating evening.
The Iceland midfielder was quiet for long stages of the game but should have emerged from this encounter with an attacking return, having looked poised to score from ten yards on 35 minutes only for a desperate lunge from the excellent Federico Fernandez (£4.4m) to deflect his goalbound shot wide.
Sigurdsson's luck was out when a couple of deflections deprived him of an assist for Richarlison's goal and his evening was summed up when he was hooked with 20 minutes to go, despite Everton chasing a winner.
Three days after Digne was deprived of a nine-point haul by a late Liverpool goal, the French left-back's luck was again out as he saw Tosun and Sigurdsson waste those aforementioned "big chances" – both of which were created by the former Barcelona defender.
Digne also saw a deflected shot saved by Dubravka, one of only three Everton efforts that hit the target.
Digne's Fantasy owners should at least be consoled by how dangerous the full-back looked going forward and a first attacking return since Gameweek 4 looks imminent based on his performances in recent weeks.
Andre Gomes (£5.4m) once again impressed in central midfield, though his classy contributions in the "double pivot" are unlikely to attract any Fantasy investment.
Newcastle produced a superb rearguard effort in gaining a point on Merseyside and it could be argued, having witnessed the capitulation against West Ham on Saturday, that they are more at ease playing on the back foot.
Benitez set his side up in a 5-4-1, with Jamaal Lascelles (£4.7m) back in central defence after an injury lay-off.
That Dubravka only had two saves to make said much about the performances of the defence in front of him, but the Slovakian goalkeeper oozed confidence in claiming a succession of crosses into the Magpies' box.
Newcastle posed a threat on the counter-attack too and could have stolen all three points when Christian Atsu (£5.1m) twice fired straight at Jordan Pickford (£5.0m) when in excellent positions.
United's goal indeed came from a breakaway, with Salomon Rondon (£5.7m) converting an excellent Jacob Murphy (£4.8m) cross.
Benitez praised the recalled Murphy and Atsu after the game:
It's a pity because we have two or three situations with Atsu, one v one, that we didn't find this final pass to make the difference. But, again, I will say that when you get a point against a good team, away from home, you have to be pleased.
Murphy and Atsu were really good because defending all the time and, after, attacking, you need the legs. The goal was a great counter-attack.
Fabian Schar (£4.6m) will be suspended for the visit of Wolves on Sunday after collecting his fifth yellow card in just six appearances.
Kenedy (£4.9m) missed out on Wednesday through injury, meanwhile.
Benitez said of the on-loan Chelsea midfielder:
He has a problem with his toe. He couldn't put his boots on and he couldn't train in the last couple of days.
Everton XI (4-2-3-1) Pickford; Coleman, Mina, Zouma, Digne; Gueye, Gomes; Lookman (Calvert-Lewin 78′), Sigurdsson (Walcott 69′), Richarlison; Tosun (Bernard 69′).
Newcastle United XI (5-4-1) Dubravka; Yedlin, Schar, Lascelles, Fernandez, Manquillo; Atsu, Diame, Sung-yeung, Murphy (Perez 64′); Rondon (Joselu 74′).
Fulham 1-1 Leicester City
- Goals: Aboubakar Kamara (£4.3m) | James Maddison (£6.8m)
- Assists: Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.6m) | Shinji Okazaki (£5.2m)
Fantasy interest had largely cooled in James Maddison (£6.8m) and Aleksandar Mitrovic (£6.6m) towards the beginning of November but the pair have showcased their mid-price credentials in recent Gameweeks and both players emerged from this draw at Craven Cottage with attacking returns.
Maddison swept home a Shinji Okazaki (£5.2m) pass to level the scores up at 1-1 on 73 minutes and was Leicester's main goal threat in the absence of the injured Jamie Vardy (£8.9m), registering more shots on goal and key passes than any of his team-mates.
The former Norwich City midfielder also supplied Leicester's only "big chance", which the ineffective Kelechi Iheanacho (£5.9m) spurned when clean through on goal.
While Maddison's form has picked up, Leicester's fixtures are about to get much tougher (three meetings with "big six" sides over the next four Gameweeks) and interest in the attacking midfielder would seem likely to remain cool for the time being.
Fulham, however, enjoy a fantastic run from Gameweeks 17 to 20 and Mitrovic surely enters the mid-price forward equation at this point, particularly given how secure his place looks in Claudio Ranieri's starting XI.
The Serbian striker held the ball up admirably and linked well with the players around him, setting Aboubakar Kamara (£4.3m) on his way for the budget forward's first Premier League strike.
No player had more efforts on goal than Mitrovic in this match, with one header creeping just wide and a goalbound strike being deflected off-target late in the game.
The Serbia international still sits on four yellow cards, however, and the possibility of him being cautioned again in the coming weeks may deter some investment over the festive period.
One player who again caught the eye from an attacking point of view was Callum Chambers (£4.2m), who was once more deployed "out of position" in central midfield and who regularly got forward to support the Fulham attack.
Chambers had four attempts on goal, including a free header from a Ryan Sessegnon (£6.0m) corner and a well-hit strike that Kasper Schmeichel (£5.0m) did brilliantly to tip away.
A clean sheet still eludes Fulham but there were some positive signs as Ranieri named the same back four for the third game in a row.
The Cottagers' boss said of his backline:
I think the more times they play together, the movement will be together. I want to see one man, at the moment they are four men but I want to see only one man and slowly, slowly they understand my vision.
Injuries to Vardy and Johnny Evans (£4.8m) forced Claude Puel into making two of four changes to his starting XI, with Caglar Soyuncu (£4.9m) a little shaky on a rare start at centre-half.
Fulham XI (4-2-3-1): Sergio Rico; Christie (Ream 84′), Odoi, Mawson, Le Marchand (Bryan 77); Chambers, Seri; Kamara, Vietto (Cairney 45), Ryan Sessegnon; Mitrovic.
Leicester City XI (4-2-3-1): Schmeichel; Simpson (Okazaki 72′), Morgan, Soyuncu, Chilwell; Mendy (Iborra 72′), Ndidi; Diabate (Gray 55′), Maddison, Albrighton; Iheanacho.


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A Sylvester Concert, based on the life of the 1970s Disco King/Queen Sylvester, "tells the life story of Sylvester through his music his way," according to press notes. "Beyond all the trials, tribulations, glitz and glamour of his lifestyle, he was a symbol for being fabulous, but also a symbol for unapologetically being who he was. The words and music of this show will enter your ear, soar through your heart andinspire your soul. Bring your dancing shoes and get ready to dance, laugh, cry and see Sylvester's Fashionable Coutures!"
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The Central Connecticut women's track and field team competed Saturday at the 2013 IC4A/ECAC Championships in Boston, MA. The women's 4x400 meter relay team surpassed its previous CCSU record, crossing the finish line in 3:52.22.
The team, which consisted of sophomores Ronea Saunders and Chantelle Deer, senior Rachel Dombroski and junior Shelby Tuttle, finished 24th in the event, ousting its previous CCSU record time of 3:52.43.
Saunders also competed in the high jump event for the Blue Devils. She tied her career-best mark of 1.78 meters (5' 10") for fourth place overall in finals competition. The top three high jumpers tied Saunders with 1.78 meters however, in a jump-off, Saunders took fourth.
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Stoke boss Mark Hughes claims there cannot be a better time for his side to take on Chelsea - but is wary of a backlash this weekend.
The Potters travel to Stamford Bridge on Saturday hoping to take advantage of the title-chasing Londoners' recent wobbles.
Chelsea lost top spot as they suffered a second defeat in three Barclays Premier League outings last weekend, a result since compounded by a Champions League reverse at Paris St Germain.
Stoke, by contrast, are enjoying their best spell of the season having lost just once in their last nine games, and won their last three, to rise to 10th in the table.
Hughes said: "If ever there was a right time to go to a club such as Chelsea, it is when you are going there as a team in form. Our current form is arguably better than Chelsea's.
"From our point of view it is certainly the best time to be going, b ut what you find with top clubs is they bounce back very quickly.
"When questions are asked of them, more often than not, top teams and top players have the answers.
"We have got to be mindful of that and be ready for something of a backlash."
Stoke have already beaten Chelsea once this term after Oussama Assaidi - currently sidelined with a knee injury - struck a last-minute winner against them at the Britannia Stadium in December.
The Blues turned the tables after that 3-2 loss by winning January's FA Cup fourth-round meeting 1-0 but Hughes feels his men have improved greatly since then.
He said: "We went there in the cup and we did okay up to a certain point, but we weren't able to force the issue.
"I'd like to think we can improve on that performance and ask more questions this time.
"We are playing better, in comparison to where we were in January.
"I would like to think that our confidence will help us to create more chances.
"It is in a great place at the moment, it couldn't be better. There has been a really good feeling this week and we want to use that and benefit from that at the weekend.
"Going to Chelsea is never easy and Jose Mourinho's record as manager of Chelsea is absolutely unbelievable.
"It will take some undoing, but that is our intention."
Victory for Stoke would deal a hefty blow to Chelsea's title ambitions.
Mourinho has already said his side have lost the chance to finish top, with Liverpool and Manchester City having seized the initiative, but former Chelsea striker Hughes does not believe that.
He said: "I think Jose has been talking for a long time about the fact they are underdogs and they are not likely to win it but they are certainly still in it. I think that is obvious to everybody.
"It is going to go right to the wire, I would suggest."
For Hughes, who has enjoyed an encouraging first season with the Potters, the target is to secure the club's first top-half finish in the Premier League.
He said: "It would be fantastic if we were able to achieve that. It won't be be easy because there are a lot of clubs around us that will have something to say about that.
"We have put ourselves in a position to be able to do it and that is all we wanted with six games to go."
Chelsea enter this weekend's fixtures two points behind leaders Liverpool and two ahead of Manchester City, who have two games in hand. Both sides have far superior goal differences.
Mourinho is determined to finish the season strongly and is pleased Chelsea have stayed in contention this term after finishing 25 and 14 points adrift in the last two campaigns.
"We were always in a virtual position and I always said we don't depend on us," Mourinho said.
"What I like is the fact that with such a difference in goals, the difference in points is not so big.
"We are there, two points behind Liverpool and I don't know two, three, four behind Man City.
"Even with some difficulties we could improve and we can start next season thinking we can do even better."
Ramires' suspension concludes against Stoke, while Ashley Cole is available again following a knee injury and Nemanja Matic and Mohamed Salah are back after being ineligible against PSG.
Recalling December's defeat at Stoke, Mourinho added: "We lost because we made a couple of unbelievable mistakes. One of the not many matches where we made defensive mistakes. A difficult opponent."


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Divine Sacrifice, now and after now
Ah, divine sacrifice! One of my favorite spells. One of the more interesting and confusing in my spell book too. It's getting a face lift in patch 3.3 and I wanted to try my hand at figuring it out. I'm not the first to touch on this topic, so if you want to see what the pros are saying, check out Honershammer's post as well as the thread on Plus Heal. There are quite possibly others discussing this, but I have yet to find them.
For the sake of simplicity, lets use for our examples, a prot paladin with 40k health and a holy paladin with 20k health. We can imagine they do their 5 mans with 4 friends their 10 man raids with 9 friends and their 25 man raids with 24 friends.
This is how things are now:
Divine Sacrifice: 30% of all damage taken by party or raid members within 30 yards is redirected to the Paladin (up to a maximum of 150% of the Paladin's health).
Divine Guardian: Improves the effectiveness of your Divine Sacrifice spell by an additional 10% and increases the duration of your Sacred Shield by 100% and the amount absorbed by 20%.
To the non-paladins reading (why would a non-paladin read this?), those are the two talents that affect the divine sacrifice spell. How does this look in practice?
Say our prot paladin with 40k health pops divine sacrifice! 150% of her health is 60k. That means up to 60k damage can be redirected to her.
How much is that per person? Say she's running a 5 man with 4 friends. We divide 60k by number of friends (60k/4), which gives us 15k maximum redirected damage per person – assuming everyone takes the same damage at the same time. The maximums in a tablish form:
4 friends: 15k redirected damage per person
9 friends (10 man): 6 667 redirected damage per person
24 friends (25 man): 2 500 redirected damage per person
So say our little group takes 10 000 damage each. 30% or 40% (depending on whether the paladin is specced in to Divine Guardian) of the damage is redirected to the paladin, up to the maximums determined above. So 3000 damage or 4000 damage would be redirected.
As you can see from the maximums, the 5 man and 10 man teams would benefit from the 30/40% damage reduction but due to the paladin's health limitations, the 25 man teams is getting less than 30% of their damage transferred.
If we take our holy paladin with 20k health, she can receive a maximum of 30k damage redirected. Maximum redirected damage per person:
5 man: 7500
10 man: 3333
25 man: 1250
Considering the same 10k damage, the 10 man and 5 man group both benefit of their full 40% damage reduction, assuming the paladin has 2 points in divine guardian, but the 25 man team gets a bit cheated. The final amount of damage taken by each of the friends is as follows:
5 man : 6000 damage taken
10 man: 6000 damage taken (if prot pally) or 6667 damage taken (if holy pally)
25 man: 7500 damage taken (if prot pally) or 8750 damage taken (if holy pally)
On paper, this doesn't look like the greatest spell ever, but since people take a varying amount of damage due to resistances and such, the damage reduction will help those who need it most. Plus, the spell is currently "bugged" so when the paladin is bubbled during Divine Sacrifice, she can sometimes receive more than the maximum damage redirected to her.
On the downside, when our holy paladin uses divine sacrifice, she needs to bubble or she'll die very, very fast. Since bubble is on a 5 minute cooldown, she can usually only use this once person fight. Plus, if she bubbles to avoid death early on, she won't be able to use DS when needed. Our prot paladin can get away with using her shield wall, but her healers still need to be on their toes.
So them 3.3 changes, eh?
Divine Guardian: This talent no longer increases the amount of damage transferred to the paladin from Divine Sacrifice. Instead it causes all raid and party members to take 10/20% reduced damage while Divine Sacrifice is active.
Divine Sacrifice: Redesigned. The effect of Divine Sacrifice is now party-only and the maximum damage which can be transferred is now limited to 40% of the paladin's health multiplied by the number of party members. In addition, the damage transferred to the paladin is now reduced by 50% before being applied to the paladin. Finally, the bug which allowed Divine Sacrifice to sometimes persist despite reaching its maximum damage has been fixed. Divine Sacrifice will now cancel as soon as its maximum damage value is exceeded in all cases.
Ok, ok, ok, what? Lets break this down.
Assuming our paladins are always in a party of 5, the maximum amount of damage that can be redirected to them is 200% of their health (40%*5 = 200%). So our prot pally can receive up to 80 000 redirected damage and our holy pally can receive up to 40 000. To figure out how many this is per person, we divide the maximums by the number of friends in the party (4) and get 20k damage per person for our prot pally's party and 10k for our holy pally's party.
I'm assuming that the amount of damage redirected to the paladin is still 30% as per the original talent. Lets look at our 10 000 damage hitting the raid Without Divine Guardian:
Party members each get their 30% damage reduction, are spared 3000 damage and take 7000 damage.
Rest of the raid gets no damage reduction 😦
Now we toss in Divine Guardian (minus 20% damage taken to everyone) to our 10 000 damage scenario:
Party members are taking 20% less damage so they take 8000 damage. 30% of that (2400) is redirected to the tank total of 5600 damage. Damage reduction is almost half.
Raid members are taking 10 0000 damage minus 20% (2 000) and take a total of 8000 damage.
Is this good or bad?
In all honesty, the different does not seem hugely significant to me. In my scenario, the party will be taking slightly less damage after 3.3, in a 10 man raid, non-party members will be taking somewhat more damage, depending on the paladin's maximum health and in 25 mans raids, non-party members will be taking about the same, or less damage, depending on the paladin's maximum health. If I wanted to go deeper into the topic, I would need to draw an excel graph. (Which I can do if anyone *really* cares) Due to the "bug fix", everyone will be taking more damage in practice, but without some stats to work with, it's hard to pinpoint numbers
What is nice is that the paladin suffers only 50% of the redirected damage, which means that as long as:
– she is not taking significant damage from other sources
– the redirected damage doesn't hit all at once
– she is healing herself or receiving adequate heals
she should be able to use divine sacrifice without depending on her bubble cooldown.
Since Divine Sacrifice has a strong effect on the paladin's party, this will either make raid leaders very happy or very annoyed at having to adjust groups strategically.
Note that this is my first serious attempt at playing with numbers, so any of you passerbys feel free to point out any discrepancies you may find!
Edit: Found a mistake! Doesn't change the final outcome though.
Edit #2 : This was recently added to the patch notes: "Finally, damage which reduces the paladin's health below 20% now cancels the effect early." My thoughts? It may take away from the efficacy of the spell, but will certainly prevent some oopsies.
Edit #3 : The damage redirected by DSac is no longer reduced by 50%. This post is outdated but not really worth changing.
Tags: divine guardian, divine sacrifice, healing, Paladin, patch 3.3, protection tree, talents, tankingBoth comments and pings are currently closed.


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Because, ya know, the world REALLY needed a pizza that's perfect for when it's late at night and you and your buddies are wasted from drinking too much microbrew and you need something to line your stomachs while you watch subtitled art-house flicks on DVD.
Tuesday, June 14, 2011
Signs of the Apocalypse
Because, ya know, the world REALLY needed a pizza that's perfect for when it's late at night and you and your buddies are wasted from drinking too much microbrew and you need something to line your stomachs while you watch subtitled art-house flicks on DVD.
18 comments:
- OMDG said...
It's for those refined college drunks and potheads who have tired of just regular old pizza.
- June 14, 2011 at 10:03 PM
this artisan crap is getting out of hand. i was in line at whole foods the other day & decided i needed to grab a bottle of water.. i picked up a random bottle without looking at it.. when i got in the car & opened it up and took a look.. it said it's ARTISAN WATER! made to be alkaline to counteract all the acidic things we consume. give me a break! i was so pissed i unknowingly bought artisnal water. water! god help us.
- June 14, 2011 at 10:12 PM
so "artisanal" means square?? thats about all I see that makes it different!
- June 15, 2011 at 12:32 AM
right up there with "artisanal" Jeep now makes a "genetically engineered" Jeep.I didn't even know Jeeps had genes??
- June 15, 2011 at 5:57 AM
- Mrs A said...
Damn i just got an ordinary jeep!
- June 15, 2011 at 6:39 AM
Artisan Domino's pizza causes Artisanal runs.
- June 15, 2011 at 7:37 AM
Why did my comment go right though? Have you decided not to moderate comments anymore?
- June 15, 2011 at 7:41 AM
- Packer said...
Kim your comment went right through because you are recognized as an artisinal commentator. Feel it, be it, live it.
I find I do have a sudden urge to quaff a finely crafted brew--perhaps something from the Harpoon Brewery offerings and eat Dominos--how much they pay Grumpy for the commercial.
- June 15, 2011 at 9:35 AM
- a.generic doc said...
Hmmm... a mushroom pizza has chopped mushrooms on it.
A sausage pizza has chopped up bits of sausage.
A pepperoni pizza has slices of pepperoni.
So what should I expect chopped up on my Artisan Pizza???
- June 15, 2011 at 10:59 AM
- myoclonicjerk said...
I hate to admit it, but the spinach feta sounds kinda good.
- June 15, 2011 at 4:07 PM
- Hattie said...
Thank goodness Dominoes can meet my peripheral needs in an age of status anxiety.
- June 15, 2011 at 4:47 PM
What! No tofu? Alas!
- June 15, 2011 at 5:42 PM
Yes! An artisinal commentator! I have arrived!
- June 15, 2011 at 6:37 PM
I'm always fascinated by trendy words and phrases that sweep the nation. It's like high school peer pressure and suddenly everyone jumps on board (except me) and uses these words which are usually grammatically incorrect. "Artisinal" is bugging me as well along with the completely unnecessary "that said" and the profound "it is what it is." That said, it is what it is.
- June 15, 2011 at 10:41 PM
Does an arti-san pizza have the topping done by a Japanese chef?
(OK, I know, but its the end of a long hot day here)
- June 16, 2011 at 5:37 AM
Oh, thank the Pope, we now have artisanal pizza!
- June 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM
- kate sweeten said...
Bwah-ha-ha!! I went to dinner with my in-laws the other night and we split a cheese plate for an appitizer...I almost lost it (and instantly thought of you) when the waitress described one of the cheese rinds as an "artisanal rine that's been soaked in fruit and ash...you have to try eating it with the cheese. It's magical."
Holy shit, you have to be kidding me.
- June 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM
- Desiree said...
I saw some artisan cakes in the grocery store yesterday and I thought of you and smiled!
- June 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM


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