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This is a scalable context timeline. It contains events related to the event Spring 1998: Bin Laden's Stepmother Visits Afghanistan. You can narrow or broaden the context of this timeline by adjusting the zoom level. The lower the scale, the more relevant the items on average will be, while the higher the scale, the less relevant the items, on average, will be.
Prince Turki al-Faisal. [Source: Publicity photo]Bin Laden, recently returned to Saudi Arabia, has been placed under house arrest for his opposition to the continued presence of US soldiers on Saudi soil. [PBS Frontline, 2001] Controversial author Gerald Posner claims that a classified US intelligence report describes a secret deal between bin Laden and Saudi Intelligence Minister Prince Turki al-Faisal at this time. Although bin Laden has become an enemy of the Saudi state, he is nonetheless too popular for his role with the mujaheddin in Afghanistan to be easily imprisoned or killed. According to Posner, bin Laden is allowed to leave Saudi Arabia with his money and supporters, but the Saudi government will publicly disown him. Privately, the Saudis will continue to fund his supporters with the understanding that they will never be used against Saudi Arabia. The wrath of the fundamentalist movement is thus directed away from the vulnerable Saudis. [Posner, 2003, pp. 40-42] Posner alleges the Saudis "effectively had [bin Laden] on their payroll since the start of the decade." [Time, 8/31/2003] This deal is reaffirmed in 1996 and 1998. Bin Laden leaves Saudi Arabia in the summer of 1991, returning first to Afghanistan. [Coll, 2004, pp. 229-31, 601-02] After staying there a few months, he moves again, settling into Sudan with hundreds of ex-mujaheddin supporters (see 1992-1996). [PBS Frontline, 2001]
Entity Tags: Osama bin Laden, Saudi Arabia, Gerald Posner, Turki al-Faisal
Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline
After the Taliban takes control of the area around Kandahar, Afghanistan, in September 1994, prominent Persian Gulf state officials and businessmen, including high-ranking United Arab Emirates and Saudi government ministers such as Saudi Intelligence Minister Prince Turki al-Faisal, frequently secretly fly into Kandahar on state and private jets for bird hunting expeditions. [Los Angeles Times, 11/18/2001] General Wayne Downing, who will later serve as one of President Bush's counterterrorism "tsars," says: "They would go out and see Osama, spend some time with him, talk with him, you know, live out in the tents, eat the simple food, engage in falconing, some other pursuits, ride horses." [MSNBC, 9/5/2003] One noted visitor is Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, United Arab Emirates (UAE) Defense Minister and Crown Prince for the emirate of Dubai. Another is Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, ruler of the UAE. While there, some develop ties to the Taliban and al-Qaeda and give them money. Both Osama bin Laden and Taliban ruler Mullah Omar sometimes participate in these hunting trips. Al Maktoum allegedly hunts with bin Laden once in 1999 (see 1999). [Los Angeles Times, 11/18/2001; Farah and Braun, 2007, pp. 120-121] On one occasion in 1999, the US will decide not to attack bin Laden with a missile because he's bird hunting with important members of the UAE's royal family (see February 11, 1999). US and Afghan officials suspect that the dignitaries' outbound jets may also have smuggle out al-Qaeda and Taliban personnel. [Los Angeles Times, 11/18/2001] The CIA also develops suspicions that many royals use the hunting trips as cover to fly out of Afghanistan with large amounts of heroin, but they are unable to prove it (see 1998).
Entity Tags: Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, Turki al-Faisal, Taliban, Al-Qaeda, United Arab Emirates, Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar, Wayne Downing
French intelligence secretly monitors a meeting of Saudi billionaires at the Hotel Royale Monceau in Paris this month with the financial representative of al-Qaeda. "The Saudis, including a key Saudi prince joined by Muslim and non-Muslim gun traffickers, [meet] to determine who would pay how much to Osama. This [is] not so much an act of support but of protection—a payoff to keep the mad bomber away from Saudi Arabia." [Palast, 2002, pp. 100] Participants also agree that Osama bin Laden should be rewarded for promoting Wahhabism (an austere form of Islam that requires literal interpretation of the Koran) in Chechnya, Kashmir, Bosnia, and other places. [Fifth Estate, 10/29/2003 ] This extends an alleged secret deal first made between the Saudi government and bin Laden in 1991. Later, 9/11 victims' relatives will rely on the "nonpublished French intelligence report" of this meeting in their lawsuit against important Saudis. [Star-Tribune (Minneapolis), 8/16/2002] According to French counterterrorism expert Jean-Charles Brisard and/or reporter Greg Palast, there are about 20 people at the meeting, including Saudi intelligence head Prince Turki al-Faisal, an unnamed brother of bin Laden, and an unnamed representative from the Saudi Defense Ministry. [Fifth Estate, 10/29/2003 ; Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, 10/29/2003] Palast will claim that Saudi businessman Abdullah Taha Bakhsh attends the meeting. Bakhsh saved George W. Bush's Harken Oil from bankruptcy around 1990. Palast will claim the notorious Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi also attends the meeting. [Democracy Now!, 3/4/2003; Santa Fe New Mexican, 3/20/2003] In a somewhat tongue-in-cheek manner, Slate will claim that Khashoggi is a "shadowy international arms merchant" who is "connected to every scandal of the past 40 years." Amongst other things, he was a major investor in BCCI and a key player in the Iran-Contra affair. [Slate, 12/4/2000; Slate, 11/14/2001; Slate, 3/12/2003] Palast, noting that the French monitored the meeting, will ask, "Since US intelligence was thus likely informed, the question becomes why didn't the government immediately move against the Saudis?" [Palast, 2002, pp. 100]
Entity Tags: Al-Qaeda, Greg Palast, Turki al-Faisal, Abdullah Bakhsh, Adnan Khashoggi, France
Sources who know bin Laden claim his stepmother, Al-Khalifa bin Laden, has the first of two meetings with her stepson in Afghanistan during this period. This trip was arranged by Prince Turki al-Faisal, then the head of Saudi intelligence. Turki was in charge of the "Afghanistan file" for Saudi Arabia, and had long-standing ties to bin Laden and the Taliban since 1980. [New Yorker, 11/5/2001]
Entity Tags: Turki al-Faisal, Al-Khalifa bin Laden
Relations between Taliban head Mullah Omar and bin Laden grow tense, and Omar discusses a secret deal with the Saudis, who have urged the Taliban to expel bin Laden from Afghanistan. Head of Saudi intelligence Prince Turki al-Faisal travels to Kandahar, Afghanistan, and brokers the deal. According to Turki, he seeks to have the Taliban turn bin Laden over to Saudi custody. Omar agrees in principle, but requests that the parties establish a joint commission to work out how bin Laden would be dealt with in accordance with Islamic law. [Coll, 2004, pp. 400-02] Note that some reports of a meeting around this time—and the deal discussed—vary dramtically from Turki's version (see May 1996 and July 1998). If this version is correct, before a deal can be reached, the US strikes Afghanistan in August in retaliation for the US African embassy bombings (see August 20, 1998), driving Omar and bin Laden back together. Turki later states that "the Taliban attitude changed 180 degrees," and that Omar is "absolutely rude" to him when he visits again in September (see Mid-September 1998). [Guardian, 11/5/2001; London Times, 8/3/2002]
Entity Tags: Saudi Arabia, Osama bin Laden, Mullah Omar, Turki al-Faisal
Taliban officials allegedly meet with Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi intelligence, to continue talks concerning the Taliban's ouster of bin Laden from Afghanistan. Reports on the location of this meeting, and the deal under discussion differ. According to some reports, including documents exposed in a later lawsuit, this meeting takes place in Kandahar. Those present include Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi Arabian intelligence, Taliban leaders, senior officers from the ISI, and bin Laden. According to these reports, Saudi Arabia agrees to give the Taliban and Pakistan "several hundred millions" of dollars, and in return, bin Laden promises no attacks against Saudi Arabia. The Saudis also agree to ensure that requests for the extradition of al-Qaeda members will be blocked and promise to block demands by other countries to close down bin Laden's Afghan training camps. Saudi Arabia had previously given money to the Taliban and bribe money to bin Laden, but this ups the ante. [Sunday Times (London), 8/25/2002] A few weeks after the meeting, Prince Turki sends 400 new pickup trucks to the Taliban. At least $200 million follow. [Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 9/23/2001; New York Post, 8/25/2002] Controversial author Gerald Posner gives a similar account said to come from high US government officials, and adds that al-Qaeda leader Abu Zubaida also attends the meeting. [Posner, 2003, pp. 189-90] Note that reports of this meeting seemingly contradict reports of a meeting the month before between Turki and the Taliban, in which the Taliban agreed to get rid of bin Laden (see June 1998).
Entity Tags: Taliban, Turki al-Faisal, Pakistan Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, Abu Zubaida, Osama bin Laden, Pakistan, Al-Qaeda
Prince Turki al-Faisal, Saudi intelligence minister until shortly before 9/11 (see August 31, 2001), will later claim that around this time its external intelligence agency tells the CIA that hijackers Nawaf Alhazmi and Khalid Almihdhar have been put on a Saudi terror watch list. The Saudis have been tracking the two men, as well as Nawaf's brother Salem, for some time (see March 21, 1999, April 4, 1999, April 6, 1999, and After Early April 1999). Saeed Badeeb, Turki's chief analyst, and Nawaf Obaid, a security consultant to the Saudi government, support Turki's account though Turki himself will later back away from it after becoming Saudi ambassador to the US (see August 21, 2005). In 2003, Prince Turki will say, "What we told [the CIA] was these people were on our watch list from previous activities of al-Qaeda, in both the [1998] embassy bombings and attempts to smuggle arms into the kingdom in 1997," (see 1997 and October 4, 2001). However, the CIA strongly denies any such warning, although it begins following Almihdhar and Alhazmi around this time (see January 2-5, 2000 and January 5-8, 2000). [Associated Press, 10/16/2003; Salon, 10/18/2003; Wright, 2006, pp. 310-311, 448] The US will not put Almihdhar and Alhazmi on its watch list until August 2001 (see August 23, 2001).
Entity Tags: Turki al-Faisal, Saudi General Intelligence Presidency, Nawaf Obaid, Nawaf Alhazmi, Khalid Almihdhar, Saeed Badeeb, Central Intelligence Agency
Timeline Tags: Complete 911 Timeline, 9/11 Timeline
Sources who know Osama bin Laden later claim that his stepmother, Al-Khalifa bin Laden, has a second meeting with her stepson in Afghanistan (her first visit took place in the spring of 1998 (see Spring 1998)). The trip is approved by the Saudi royal family. The Saudis pass the message to him that "'they wouldn't crack down on his followers in Saudi Arabia' as long as he set his sights on targets outside the desert kingdom." In late 1999, the Saudi government had told the CIA about the upcoming trip, and suggested placing a homing beacon on her luggage. This does not happen—Saudis later claim they weren't taken seriously, and Americans claim they never received specific information on her travel plans. [New Yorker, 11/5/2001; Washington Post, 12/19/2001]
Entity Tags: Central Intelligence Agency, Osama bin Laden, Al-Khalifa bin Laden, Saudi Binladin Group
The American Hospital in Dubai. [Source: American Hospital]Bin Laden, America's most wanted criminal with a $5 million bounty on his head, supposedly receives lifesaving treatment for renal failure from American specialist Dr. Terry Callaway at the American hospital in Dubai, United Arab Emirates. He is possibly accompanied by Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri (who is said to be bin Laden's personal physician as well as al-Qaeda's second-in-command), plus several bodyguards. Callaway supposedly treated bin Laden in 1996 and 1998, also in Dubai. Callaway later refuses to answer any questions on this matter. [Le Figaro (Paris), 10/31/2001; Agence France-Presse, 11/1/2001; London Times, 11/1/2001] During his stay, bin Laden is visited by "several members of his family and Saudi personalities," including Prince Turki al-Faisal, then head of Saudi intelligence. [Guardian, 11/1/2001] On July 12, bin Laden reportedly meets with CIA agent Larry Mitchell in the hospital. Mitchell apparently lives in Dubai as an Arab specialist under the cover of being a consular agent. The CIA, the Dubai hospital, and even bin Laden deny the story. The two news organizations that broke the story, Le Figaro and Radio France International, stand by their reporting. [Le Figaro (Paris), 10/31/2001; Radio France International, 11/1/2001] The explosive story is widely reported in Europe, but there are only two, small wire service stories on it in the US. [United Press International, 11/1/2001; Reuters, 11/10/2001] The Guardian claims that the story originated from French intelligence, "which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere." The Guardian adds that during his stay bin Laden is also visited by a second CIA officer. [Guardian, 11/1/2001] In 2003, reporter Richard Labeviere will provide additional details of what he claims happened in a book entitled "The Corridors of Terror." He claims he learned about the meeting from a contact in the Dubai hospital. He claims the event was confirmed in detail by a Gulf prince who presented himself as an adviser to the Emir of Bahrain. This prince claimed the meeting was arranged by Prince Turki al-Faisal. The prince said, "By organizing this meeting…Turki thought he could start direct negotiations between [bin Laden] and the CIA on one fundamental point: that bin Laden and his supporters end their hostilities against American interests." In exchange, the CIA and Saudis would allow bin Laden to return to Saudi Arabia and live freely there. The meeting is said to be a failure. [Reuters, 11/14/2003] On July 15, Larry Mitchell reportedly returns to CIA headquarters to report on his meeting with bin Laden. [Radio France International, 11/1/2001] French counterterrorism expert Antoine Sfeir says the story of this meeting has been verified and is not surprising: It "is nothing extraordinary. Bin Laden maintained contacts with the CIA up to 1998. These contacts have not ceased since bin Laden settled in Afghanistan. Up to the last moment, CIA agents hoped that bin Laden would return to the fold of the US, as was the case before 1989." [Le Figaro (Paris), 11/1/2001] A CIA spokesman calls the entire account of bin Laden's stay at Dubai "sheer fantasy." [Reuters, 11/14/2003]
Entity Tags: Ayman al-Zawahiri, Larry Mitchell, Antoine Sfeir, Turki al-Faisal, Terry Callaway, Osama bin Laden, Al-Qaeda, Richard Labeviere
Prince Turki al-Faisal, head of Saudi Arabia's intelligence service for 24 years, is replaced. No explanation is given. He is replaced by Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz, his nephew and the king's brother, who has "no background in intelligence whatsoever." [Agence France-Presse, 8/31/2001; Wall Street Journal, 10/22/2001; Seattle Times, 10/29/2001] The Wall Street Journal later reports: "The timing of Turki's removal—August 31—and his Taliban connection raise the question: Did the Saudi regime know that bin Laden was planning his attack against the US? The current view among Saudi-watchers is probably not, but that the House of Saud might have heard rumors that something was planned, although they did not know what or when. (An interesting and possibly significant detail: Prince Sultan, the defense minister, had been due to visit Japan in early September, but canceled his trip for no apparent reason less than two days before an alleged planned departure.)" [Wall Street Journal, 10/22/2001] It will later come out that Turki's removal takes place during a time of great turmoil in the relationship between the US and Saudi Arabia, though it is not known if there is a connection (see August 27, 2001, August 29-September 6, 2001, and September 6, 2001). Turki is later sued in August 2002 for his role in 9/11 (see August 15, 2002), and is later appointed ambassador to Britain (see October 18, 2002) and then ambassador to the US (see August 21, 2005).
Entity Tags: Turki al-Faisal, Taliban, Osama bin Laden, Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz
Deena Burnett, wife of Flight 93 passenger Tom Burnett, speaks on behalf of the victims' relatives suing the Saudis. [Source: Associated Press]More than 600 relatives of victims of the 9/11 attacks file a 15-count, $1 trillion lawsuit against various parties they accuse of financing al-Qaeda and Afghanistan's former Taliban regime. The number of plaintiffs will quickly increase to 2,500 after the suit is widely publicized. Up to 10,000 were eligible to join this suit. The lawsuit does not allege that Saudi defendants directly participated in the 9/11 attacks, or approved them. Instead, it is alleged they helped fund and sustain al-Qaeda, which enabled the attacks to occur. [Washington Post, 8/16/2002; Newsweek, 9/13/2002] Defendants named include: The Saudi Binladin Group, the conglomerate owned by the bin Laden family. [CNN, 8/15/2002] The National Commercial Bank, one of the largest banks in Saudi Arabia. [Associated Press, 8/15/2002] The government of Sudan, for letting bin Laden live in that country until 1996. [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] The World Assembly of Muslim Youth (WAMY). [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] The SAAR Foundation. [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] Al-Rajhi Banking & Investment Corp., which the plaintiffs contend is the primary bank for a number of charities that funnel money to terrorists. (This bank will later be dismissed from the suit (see November 14, 2003-September 28, 2005).) [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] The Benevolence International Foundation. [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] The International Islamic Relief Organization (IIRO) and its parent organization, the Muslim World League (MWL). The suit claims that the IIRO gave more than $60 million to the Taliban. [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] Khalid bin Mahfouz, one-time prominent investor in the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) who had to pay a $225 million fine following the collapse of that bank. It is claimed he later operated a bank that funneled millions of dollars to charities controlled by al-Qaeda. (Mahfouz denies supporting terrorism and has filed a motion to dismiss the complaint.) [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] Mohammed al Faisal al Saud, a Saudi prince. (His name will later be dismissed from the suit because of diplomatic immunity (see November 14, 2003-September 28, 2005).) [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan. (His name will later be dismissed from the suit because of diplomatic immunity (see November 14, 2003-September 28, 2005).) [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] Prince Turki al-Faisal, former chief of Saudi intelligence. (His name will later be dismissed from the suit because of diplomatic immunity (see November 14, 2003-September 28, 2005).) [Washington Post, 8/16/2002] "The attorneys and investigators were able to obtain, through French intelligence, the translation of a secretly recorded meeting between representatives of bin Laden and three Saudi princes in which they sought to pay him hush money to keep him from attacking their enterprises in Saudi Arabia." [CNN, 8/15/2002] The plaintiffs also accuse the US government of failing to pursue such institutions thoroughly enough because of lucrative oil interests. [BBC, 8/15/2002] Ron Motley, the lead lawyer in the suit, says the case is being aided by intelligence services from France and four other foreign governments, but no help has come from the Justice Department. [Star-Tribune (Minneapolis), 8/16/2002] The plaintiffs acknowledge the chance of ever winning any money is slim, but hope the lawsuit will help bring to light the role of Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 attacks. [BBC, 8/15/2002] A number of rich Saudis respond by threatening to withdraw hundreds of billions of dollars in US investments if the lawsuit goes forward (see August 20, 2002). More defendants will be added to the suit later in the year (see November 22, 2002). [Daily Telegraph, 8/20/2002]
Entity Tags: Saudi Binladin Group, Sudan, Taliban, SAAR Foundation, Sultan bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, Ron Motley, International Islamic Relief Organization, Khalid bin Mahfouz, Al-Qaeda, National Commercial Bank, Al-Rajhi Banking & Investment Corp., Turki al-Faisal, World Assembly of Muslim Youth, Benevolence International Foundation
King Abdullah. [Source: White House]King Fahd of Saudi Arabia dies of old age. As expected, Fahd's half-brother Crown Prince Abdullah replaces him as king. Abdullah had been de facto ruler of the country since 1995, when King Fahd suffered a stroke (see Late 1995). Fahd had ruled the country since 1982. [BBC, 8/1/2005; CNN, 8/3/2005]
Entity Tags: Fahd Bin Abdul Aziz, Abdullah bin Abdulaziz al-Saud
Prince Bandar, Saudi ambassador to the US since 1983, steps down and is replaced by Prince Turki al-Faisal. It is said that Prince Bandar had been suffering health problems and is not close to the new Saudi King Abdullah (see August 1, 2005). Prince Turki was Saudi intelligence minister from the late 1970s until about one week before 9/11 (see August 31, 2001). Then he served three years as Saudi ambassador to Britain. Prince Turki has had a controversial past. He was considered a mentor to bin Laden, and encouraged him to represent Saudi Arabia in the Afghanistan war against the Soviet Union. There are allegations that Prince Turki took part in a series of secret meetings between bin Laden and the Saudis over a period of many years (see Summer 1991; May 1996; Spring 1998; June 1998; July 1998; July 4-14, 2001). There are also allegations that he went falcon hunting in Afghanistan with bin Laden during much of the 1990s (see 1995-2001). In the wake of his appointment as ambassador, US officials try to downplay his past. One unnamed US official says, "Yes, he knew members of al-Qaeda. Yes, he talked to the Taliban. At times he delivered messages to us and from us regarding Osama bin Laden and others. Yes, he had links that in this day and age would be considered problematic, but at the time we used those links." The official adds that Prince Turki seems to have "gotten out of that business" since 2001 and "he understands that times have changed." He was sued in 2002 by a group of 9/11 victims' relatives for allegedly supporting al-Qaeda, but his name was dropped from the suit because of diplomatic immunity (see August 15, 2002). [New York Times, 7/21/2005]
Entity Tags: Osama bin Laden, Bandar bin Sultan, Al-Qaeda, Turki al-Faisal
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Attack of the female MC's!!!!! run for your lives! Lawd knows I love a good cat fight and a good female MC. And even though I'm a die hard Lil' Kim fan, I am officially on Khia...she is too much! I gotta love it and so should you. So first of all if anyone watches Miss Rap Supreme, which you should, you already know that Khia got eliminated for basically plagiarizing herself. When I was watching the show I was really appalled to see an already "established" artist on it (if you can call "my neck, my,back" established)...but if it was for publicity she definitely got it, because now I'm all ears. She had a outward beef with Janet, aka the queen of everything, Jackie-O, Deelishis (from Flava of Love), Trina, and the entire cast of Miss Rap Supreme. She even got a song with Trina's ex Lil' Wayne...gotta hear that right? O this bish goes hard? lmao...but aint nobody tryna go DeathRow though? aint nobody tryna go east coast west coast though? no?....good...so here's the distrack...lmao
i would post trina and jackie-o's comebacks,but i feel as though they fell short cuz Khia's ish is definitely funnier than theres...and you can youtube her too, which shouldn't be a surprise because you can youtube just about anything these days (i'm probably on youtube and I don't even know it. Watch as she rambles on and on...AND ON in her hard core southern accent about how "my neck, my back" reached millions of people, cured AIDS, found the solution to homelessness and world hunger, and of course stopped global warming AND how her label Nasti Music (or something like that) has discovered the answer to world peace and arrested osama bin laden...more on Khia and her struggle to save mankind later...hee hee hee hee...and in reference to that picture, if her stomach is really that flat I should jump off of a cliff..there you have it, Khia ladies and gents!
Tuesday, May 13, 2008
My Neck, My Back--a hip hop classic?
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Labels: Khia
151 Mixtapes and 3 Albums about why you should say NO to Crizzack by Dwayne Carter, III
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Labels: Albums Dropping, lil wayne
the cool kids/the bake sale
you know i got a little thing for mikey rocks...yessir, he is certainly a cutie, but i have an even bigger thing for his music. i love the cool kids, they take me back to those days when i used to sip lemonade in the shade while watching menace II society on the tv in the kitchen (sigh). Well they are finally coming out with something new and hot and real appropriately titled "THe Bake Sale". Below is a quote from XXL, our hip hop bible, well at least the new testament...
In the spirit of dookie links and four-finger rings, the Cool Kids are at the forefront of the old-school hip hop revival. "When I was three, my Dad made me memorize Paid In Full. He wanted to make my Mom mad," says 23-year-old Chuck Inglish, one half of the Midwestern duo. "I grew up idolizing that imagery. When I was little, I wanted to be that album cover."
Hailing for the suburbs of Detroit and Chicago respectively, Chuck and partner Mikey Rocks met on Myspace two years ago. "I was just flippin' through pages, and I ran across his [beats]," says Mikey, 19. "I really hadn't heard too much like that before. We were gonna start a project where we were both producing and get a bunch of artists to jump on the mixtape, but then I [started] rapping, and he was like, "Man, that's dope!" Mikey had been rhyming since the age of nine, but Chuck, who was strictly a beatmaker, didn't start penning verses until he met his new partner. Their mutual appreciation of Slick Rick and EPMD, as well as new-schoolers like Nas, Biggie and 'Pac, made for a perfect match, and the Cool Kids were born.
In their short time together, the Cool Kids have recorded and released several songs online, including "88", "I Rock", and their ode to BMX riding, "Black Mags." Their stripped-down, synth-heavy joints have been flying all over the net, earning them a loyal following. "There's a lot more ungangsta niggas than there are gangstas", says Chuck. "The media wants you to believe that Black people don't grow up regular or have parents with money. Get the fuck outta here!"
Among countless other like-minded individuals, the Kids have been embraced by hipster DJs like Flosstradamus, Diplo and Kanye West's mixmaster, DJ A-Trak, who have been blasting the crew's throwback music worldwide. In January, the Cool Kids plan to release their first EP, The Bake Sale, on C.A.K.E. Recordings/Chocolate Industries, followed by a full-length LP later in the year. "We just trying to be ourselves,", says Chuck, "You gotta go backwards to go forwards." Check out their melody."
there u have it folks...the gospel according to the cool kids..and me being the bootleg/mixtape/free shit que-en that i am have provided u with a track from the upcoming album:
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Labels: Albums Dropping, mixtapes, the cool kids
the virgin kim
So I've decided that the title of this blog is the name of my first hip hop neo soul rap album that i will probably never make. lol. Anyway, I've been on my sick bed for a few days now, "sick wit the strep" (the title of my first song lol). I just want to put you all onto something fabulous that I have had the pleasure of discovering (drumroll please) (medevil trumpet sound) (beatboxing white rapper sound)...its called FotoFlexer and its on Facebook. Yay! Its like a bootleg photoshop, for all us people who can't afford photoshop. I swear I've been foolin' mad people with my pictures. I'm like a FotoFlexer expert forreal, if I got my hands on photoshop I probably have a seisure from all the excitement of the new features. So be creative and shit...
I've decided that since my concubines have abandoned poor queenie that I'd just write about whatever the hell I want to...For example...i was watching MTV last night, while hacking up an unheard of amount of diseased mucous, when my hacking was interupted by a temper tantrum by a dramatic gay high school student (the best combination) on MTV's The Paper.
soo as a result of this i was hacking up mucous and laughing hysterically...all of this over a column that some staff member shouldnt have had in the first place...muahhahahahaha...and of course the black girl made the smart ass comment that set him on his path to sadness lmao lmao lmao, how i love MTV! I'm so quoting this kid on my Facebook...well I have to get back to being sick and watching Rachel Ray roast a chicken and play truth or dare with Gail, (yes oprah's bestie)..even though I'm sick I remain hungry. Peaces.(cough cough HACK)
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The people have spoken — and UC backs down
When both Left and Right are outraged about something, it's reasonable to believe that the something that inspired their collective ire is a bad idea. Such is the case with the University of California's dreadful idea for a new logo. In the face of a rising tide of protest and ridicule, UC has decided to jettison it's terrible mistake:
The logo is a no-go.
That's right, the University of California is yanking its new logo after an intense backlash against the design, which some compared to, well, a flushing toilet.
News of the logo's death spread quickly Friday on social media, as critics celebrated with "huzzahs" and an array of snarky remarks.
"Power of the people! … I applaud UC for listening and pulling logo," tweeted Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom who had stepped into the fray and urged UC to scrap the new look.
As of Friday morning, a petition to get rid of the logo had more than 54,360 supporters, less than a week after the shield-shaped "U" with a smaller "C" inside it took a beating in newspapers across the country.
See? We can work together for what's important. We'll save our fights for little things, like the Constitution.


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Win And They Will Come: ESPN's College GameDay Finally Shifts to Flex SchedulingPosted by Bennet Hayes (@hoopstraveler) on October 8th, 2014
While it's doubtful we will bear witness to Katy Perry flinging corn dogs around Cameron Indoor Stadium this winter, the basketball spin-off of college football's wildly popular College GameDay might finally gain a foothold of its own. The series is, at LONG last, moving to a flexible schedule that will allow the network to select the game and venue capable of supplying college basketball fans maximum intrigue. What's more, Jay Williams and Seth Greenberg will join Rece Davis and Jay Bilas in a reconfigured lineup of on-air talent for the series. The duo should provide a welcome respite from the aimless rhetoric of Digger Phelps and Jalen Rose, the two men they will be replacing. GameDay has never felt like a requisite watch on winter Saturdays; might that begin to change in January 2015?
Last year's slate of games actually played out nicely for the folks over at the Worldwide Leader, as even the sites saddled with underachieving hosts (Colorado, Oklahoma State) were accompanied by plenty of surrounding drama (thanks Marcus Smart!) when the crew came to town. In 2014, there were no trips to sub-.500 Missouri Valley schools (Southern Illinois, 2008), battles between SEC also-rans (Florida vs. Tennessee, 2009), or match-ups of NIT squads (Washington vs. Arizona, 2012). The flex schedule should ensure that none of the above – or anything remotely close to them – occurs in 2015, either. But the new schedule should do far more than simply ensure quality match-ups. Site selection now becomes something for fan bases to win each weekend; we've seen the fall travel itineraries of Chris Fowler and the football crew become a weekly news story as college towns battle for hosting rights. Basketball sites of years past have often failed to generate the local red carpet treatment afforded the football gang, but this new, more spontaneous selection process should have fans excited and cities better prepared to enjoy a weekend with GameDay.


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Lil Wayne can breathe a little easier now that his camp's been assured there won't be anymore 'Carter V' leaks … at least not from Martin Shkreli.
We're told Weezy's camp hunted down Shkreli on Thursday after Shkreli released a sampling of the forever-under-wraps album … just 2 days before Xmas.
You'll recall Wayne was outraged over the leak … so his camp wanted assurance from Shkreli there weren't other samples floating around.
Our Shkreli sources say Martin told Wayne's camp the well was now dry and promised there wouldn't be more leaks. As for any more samples or copies floating around … Martin says he's got the only one as far as he knows.
This comes on the heels of Birdman saying 'Carter V' will see the light of day.
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Leftwing Anti-War activists and media, along with Libertarians from the isolationist wing of the movement who also opposed the War, may have some explaining to do this morning.
This assertion is followed by extensive quotations from the NYT piece on the current Iraqi government's discovery of 19 MIG fighters from Saddam's Air Force sent to Serbia for repairs during the late 1980s from damage taken during the Iran-Iraq War. Saddam was never able to ship them back. The article also covers Iraqi efforts to recover other military and financial assets of the old regime, including two naval vessels each in Egypt and Italy, as well as unspecified material in France and Russia. Everything discussed in the NYT piece covers traditional military hardware, most of which was dispersed before the First Gulf War in 1991.
But, with the proper concatenation of clipped quotes and technically accurate but highly misleading statements, Eric manages to transform this story into clues about what might have happened to Saddam's supposed caches of WMDs:
Numerous defense experts, and even former Iraqi high-ranking military personnel have maintained for years that Saddam Hussein had the bulk of his WMD shifted to Syria, weeks and months before the start of the American invasion in 2003.
Former Iraqi Air Force Two-Star General Georges Sada wrote a book in 2004: Saddam's Secrets - How an Iraqi General Defied And Survived Saddam Hussein. In the book he gave specific details of how Saddam had ordered Air Force pilots to fly parts of WMD stockpiles to Syria, and gave further information on efforts of ground transportation of such weaponry across the Syrian border.
You can read Sada's assertions about the Iraqi pilots in a 2006 New York Sun piece promoting the book. Eric quotes Sada's allegations to Sean Hannity, but neglects to mention what the Sun concluded:
Short of discovering the weapons in Syria, those seeking to validate Mr. Sada's claim independently will face difficulty.
Why would corroborating Sada's account be difficult? Simply because he provides absolutely no evidence. He says he was told this story by two Iraqi pilots after the fact. He does not name them. He doesn't actually give any evidence, and his bonafides rest [I'm not kidding here] on people who, after getting to know him, have decided he's an "honest man."
What did Defense Update, one of the more respected think-tank publications say about Sada's book?
In his book, Sada claimed that Saddam Hussein ordered to fly portions of the WMD stockpiles to secret locations in Syria. Although Sada's book included some highly contradictory material, the Post OIF coalition fact-finding mission (ISG) hunting for suspected stockpiles of WMD, ruled that it was unlikely that an "official" transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, it also acknowledged that ISG was unable to complete its investigation and was unable to "rule out the possibility that WMD was evacuated to Syria before the war."
Contradictory material ... transfer unlikely but could not be completely ruled out ...
And, more to the point, no further evidence supporting Sada's claims about these two pilots and their supposed 56 trips to carry yellow drums marked with a skull-and-cross-bones has ever emerged.
Eric would have you believe the contrary, however, by next quoting the blog Musings on Iraq, which he prefaces this way:
In related news, new information being revealed indicates that WMD were found at the semi-autonomous region of northern Iraq which sheltered Zarqawi and Ansar Al-Islam. The blog Musings on Iraq has just run a well-sourced piece: "Why didn't Bush strike Zarqawi and Ansar Al-Islam in 2002"?
Now let's look at the two sentences Eric quotes, complete with those neat little elipsis dots separating them:
During the 2003 invasion, U.S. and Kurdish forces took the Ansar camp after four days of fighting. There they found that Ansar was working on poisons and WMD...
Khurmal turned out to be the only place in Iraq that the U.S. actually found WMD being produced, which was the major justification for the war in the first place.
What's missing, you wonder? Let's take a look at that first sentence with the missing material:
During the 2003 invasion, U.S. and Kurdish forces took the Ansar camp after four days of fighting. There they found that Ansar was working on poisons and WMD. They did not find evidence that the group was supported by Baghdad however. The group did receive foreign aid, and was considering launching attacks in other countries. Zarqawi was no longer at the camp though, having left when plans for a military strike against Ansar began leaking out to the press in 2002. Khurmal turned out to be the only place in Iraq that the U.S. actually found WMD being produced, which was the major justification for the war in the first place.
So, let's see:
1) The WMDs (if any) at Khurmal were not a part of any of Saddam's weapons programs.
2) The article may be well-sourced, but apparently Eric hasn't actually read the sources. For example, the Journal of Strategic Studies piece by Micah Zenko explicitly argues that there was no other WMD production occurring in pre-invasion Iraq:
This article, based on research and interviews with senior military and civilian officials, assesses four plausible explanations for why President Bush deferred attacking the only place in Iraq that was producing WMD, albeit in small quantities, before the 2003 war.
So what remains for anti-war activists and left-Libertarians to explain, Eric?
Nothing in your article rises to the level of news, except for your clip of the NYT piece on the jets in Serbia. And even that--if you stop and think about it--does not bode really well for arguing Iraq's technical proficiency. They were sending their fighters out to Serbia for repairs, for God's sake.
Nothing in your article presents the slightest piece of evidence that Saddam Hussein possessed WMDs or transferred them to Syria. In fact, if you go back and actually click the links in the post [as I have done above], they don't support your assertions in the slightest.
For Eric Dondero this represents an unfortunate continuing chapter in his obsession to find WMDs in pre-invasion Iraq, such as his July 2008 recycling of an easily-fisked piece of disinformation on the so-called Tuwaitha "Yellowcake."
Prozac is said to help with unhealthy obsessions.
Which is about as much explaining as anybody--libertarian or anti-war activist--needs to do when Eric trots out these ridiculous, unsupported allegations.


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Listeners and readers of my commentary know that I have spoken out against what I believe is Israeli misbehavior. So I get flooded with one-sided petitions condemning Israeli behavior. To make myself completely clear, I see merit and fault on both sides. I will not sign one-sided petitions.
I am reminded of my conversation with a Palestinian student who argued with me that Palestinians have the right to kill Israelis, any Israelis, military or civilian, and they have no right to shoot back, only to accept their fate. I questioned him to make sure I was hearing him accurately. What he was making clear was the attitude, or brain-washing, that dehumanized the other side. That is the attitude we have to fight against. Read the rest of this entry »


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What do they say about the road to hell? It's paved with good intentions? My intention was to post sooner - a briefer hiatus, so to speak - and with no excuses - here goes.
This article* by Adrienne Fawcett from MediaPost - Marketing Daily caught my eye the other day. Call me a sucker for a good headline. Someday I'll be able to write one :)
8 Of 10 Americans Know About Blogs; Half Visit Them Regularly
Eight in ten is a whole pile of people - just like the picture over there. And 50% visit regularly - that's pretty amazing. Admittedly, its rare that I talk with anybody who doesn't know what a blog IS but it seems we are still in the early phase of what a blog can DO. We discover as we go - the stream ripples and rolls. And, of course, there are as many "whys" to blog as there are people. Here are excerpts from her article and my reactions:
"The high awareness is surprising given that blogging is an emerging media outlet," says Tom Mularz, senior vice president at Synovate eNation, which conducted the online survey of 1,000 U.S. adults. "The segmentation on awareness and usage, and on people having their own blogs, is driven by age, with obviously younger people more active in blogging." Nearly 90% of 25- to-34-year-olds know what a blog is, compared to 64.5% of those age 65-plus. Similarly, 78.4% of 18- to-24-year-olds report they have visited a blog, compared to just 44.7% of older Americans.Not sure I agree its "obviously" younger people "active" in blogging - although I'm closer to 65 than to 34 so everybody's younger. I'm just being a little picky with words today. What IS obvious would be blogs are transforming communication and conversation. Which is what good advertising and marketing should be about.
Almost half of the respondents said they visit blogs to be entertained. What types of entertainment have they given up now that they are reading and writing blogs? Any emerging media poses a threat to traditional media, but at present, 87% of the people who read blogs said they don't spend less time with other media now that they're reading blogs. Of the 13.3% who do say they have ditched old media habits, newspapers, television and magazines have taken the biggest hits.This makes confusing sense. I'm a little surprised at the almost 90% of blog readers spending the same amount of time with other media? Are people sleeping less? There are still 24 hours every day - right? And the low 15% who've ditched traditional media. Much of what we in the newspaper business tend to hear is just the opposite - high percentages ditching at a more rapid rate. This is today's good news - tomorrow might be different. Will reading blogs become a habit? A ritual for future readers?
Ad spending on blogs is still in its infancy....a recent study by Nielsen BuzzMetrics and Nielsen's BASES research division found that new products with higher ad spending on traditional media tend to generate greater buzz in the blogosphere. But the eNation study, conducted in late July, shows there is real potential for ads on blogs. Among people who have visited a blog (485), 43.2% said they have noticed ads on blogs, and three out of 10 people in this group said they have clicked on ads while visiting a blog. Among the youngest consumers, a whopping 61.2% of 18- to 24-year-olds said they have noticed ads on blogs.My initial impression is that ad delivery online must take a different form quickly. What we see today on blogs (and websites) seems to be not so cleverly disguised subliminal messaging. Does it really sell anything OR is the network (community) we associate with more the influence than the ad? I'm leaning toward hearing about a product or service from someone I trust being the "close" of a sale. Here seems to be the real potential and not a banner ad. I believe blogs - and those who blog - help in this step toward a making a decision.
Some advertisers are trying to slip brand names in through the blogosphere's back door by recruiting bloggers to write favorably about their brands. Recently, a rep for Marvin Windows and Doors sent a flattering (exact replica) e-mail to several house-bloggers (including this reporter at The Fixer Upper House) to "better understand how Marvin can better interact and inform you as a home remodeler and blogger." She offered to provide "how to" tips and recommendations along with updates on company innovations and products. The company's "end, end goal," the rep said in a follow-up note, is to expand "Marvin's footprint as an expert in windows and doors." She teased at the potential for future promotions and advertising, but added, "That's really several months away."Some organizations see the potential in building the conversation. Note how the representative says future promotions and advertising are several months away. We are still trying to figure this whole thing out. The future is huge.
So who's blogging? Eight percent of Americans have their own blog. "That's high, given that blogging was unheard of a few years ago," says eNation's Mularz. It's also surprising that more women than men are bloggers (given that men tend to dominate the computer/tech fields). Nearly 14% of men versus 20% of women have blogs, eNation reports.To contact Adrienne - go to her blog. She's a friendly sort and responded promptly to my email.
I remain conflicted with online advertising. There has GOT to be a better way.
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Why is the SOCOM Gear M82 selling like Hot Cakes?!
- Sturdy build due to full steel / aluminum design
- Fluted barrel
- Accurate replica mimicking the real steel
- 390fps out of the factory with high upgrade potential
- Realistic weight - just a little lighter than the real thing!
- Easy to disassemble
- Availability of aftermarket/upgrade parts
- High torque and low resistance wiring as standard
- Cocking handle moves full length!
- Soft rubber buttpad
- First complete M82 AEG ever!
- May be too heavy for some to carry around for a skirmish
- No matter how good, it's still quite a bit of money
- Mag pouches may be hard to source or of limited supply
- May require partial disassembly during transportation/storage
Most affordable complete M82 package available on the market today featuring fully licensed and authentic markings and manufacturing process. All the external features are accurate to the real thing and if you have always wanted an authentic looking M82, this is it. And it performs well enough for you to use it on a skirmish field too! Watch your opponents take cover in fear from the sheer power and fear factor of the light fifty!
The Barrett 'light fifty' was made by Barrett Firearms company was founded by Ronnie Barrett for the sole purpose of building semi-auto rifles chambered for powerful .50BMG ammunition, originally developed for and used in Browning M2HB heavy machine guns. Barrett began his work in early 1980s and first working rifles were available in 1982, hence the designation M82. The first real success was the purchase of about 100 M82A1 rifles by the Sweden Army in 1989. Major success followed in 1990 - 1991, when US Military purchased numbers of the M82A1 during the operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm in Kuwait and Iraq. About 125 rifles were initially bought by US Marine Corps, orders from US Army and Air Force followed soon. The M82A1 is known for US Military as the SASR - "Special Applications Scoped Rifle", and it was and still is used as an anti-materiel weapon and EOD (explosive ordnance disposal) tool. Soon after this was used by the US military, it became a popular icon in the gun culture that the Barrett 50cal was powerful, mean and intimidating. Featured in various action movies and computer games, this sure is a popular model to replicate.
Initial impressions.
The Socom Gear M82 comes in giant brown box with a label on the front side of the box with Barrett, Socom Gear and Madbull logos along with a massive list of features of this package. The box comes with an integrated carry handle allowing you to carry all of the 23lbs of M82 inside it. We cant just judge a gun by it's box so we opened it up to inspect this further. You will notice a green 'Operator's Manual' where it advises you to read before using. We also strongly recommend you reading this manual before attempting to assemble as it includes vital information to assemble this without damaging any of the parts.
The matte black finish on the gun is very appealing featuring a full length fluted barrel and the correct muzzle brake. Having the gun shipped partially disassembled can be a good thing in a way, not only does it reduce the dimensional weight on shipping, it also allows you to get hands-on on this gun giving you a nice chance to examine and truly appreciate the workmanship of this gun. From the stamped steel receiver with licensed engravings to the one piece fluted barrel to how the parts fit together perfectly with ease. There are no wobbles at all between the upper and lower half of the receiver, considering the only thing holding it down is the front pivot bar, front and back body pin it really does show Socom Gear have done a good job on the design and manufacturing of this M82. Since the pistol grip and the trigger group is almost identical between the Barrett and the Armalites, it's no surprise to find a version 2 gearbox inside. Featuring a high torque motor, low resistance wiring and a 7mm reinforced gearbox, you're pretty much getting a pre-upgraded AEG as a standard!
Not only is this the cheapest M82 airsoft replica available on the market, it is also a complete kit that only requires ammo and a battery to make it skirmish ready! What makes this gun truly special is the additional features of the gun. A working bolt cover that can move the full length, realistic magazine and licensed Barrett markings, Stamped steel receiver along with authentic weld marks on all the correct places on the receiver. Although when you examine the magazine, it can be a let down as you find out it uses a M16 vn mag positioned front to back inside the M82 magazine casing. This can be solved very easily if you happen to have a VN midcap spare but they're cheap to acquire anyway. Just replace the existing VN hicap with the midcap and you're set! No more rattles! When you're assembling this gun, you will no doubt see the barrel and it comes with a very nice Madbull Black Python 650mm tightbore barrel. This just seems to get better, most of the time you purchase any AEG or sniper rifles, they come with a standard or sub-standard barrel where the barrel is sometimes 6.08mm at best.
The Socom Gear M82 chronos at 393fps at most, with slight fluctuation on the fps on the chrono giving readings as low as 379. This is a very small fps fluctuation telling you there is very little air loss in the system as it shows a ±7fps for the 10shots recorded. It can then be expected the air coming out at the muzzle end would be warmer as this setup can produce such a high compression ratio with such little air loss. The battery recommended by Socom Gear is to use their 11.1v lipo battery which will give you a quick shot response even though a mini 9.6v battery will be sufficient to pull the spring back and cycle the gearbox. Obviously the 9.6v will have a slower ROF and also a lower discharge rate to the 11.1v lipo so it will not have as much endurance as the 11.1v lipo.
A grouping test has also been done on the M82 using KSC perfect .20g ammo at 20metres. Without a proper open area to set the hop, we had to make do with the 20metres we have available to do a groupings test with the hop set to what seems correct at this range. Occasionally there are shots that stray off in a random direction whilst the scope was being zeroed but there are numerous factors that can affect the shot accuracy on this. With the target printed on an A4 sheet of paper, the shots hit an amazing 2.5inch grouping at prone position using the bipods. Below is the groupings sheet before and after the hop and scope adjustment.
The Socom Gear M82, although it has a hefty weight along with it, is a very user friendly and a much anticipated rifle featuring all the correct markings on the real Barrett M82. In Airsoft terms, you get to look the part, be intimidating and definitely will get recognized if you were to bring it onto the field for a skirmish. The gun performs extremely well straight out of the box since the groupings test speaks for itself and also has the capability for quick follow up shots due to its semi automatic capabilities with room to spare if poop hits the fan if you decide you need the full auto mode too. With its fully authentic markings and manufacturing process at the lowest price compared to other alternatives of the M82 replicas available on the market today, this is a bargain as well as being able to use this in a skirmish.
It has to be said that at a price for an AEG, this can be seen as a very expensive price but if you were ONLY wanting an AEG, you will not be looking to buy the Socom Gear M82 as this was solely intended to be the first and cheapest complete M82 replica on the market without having to manually cock the spring back after every shot like the springer alternatives there are to choose from. But that will only be silly and lose its authenticity if you wanted an M82 but have to cock it as if it was a M99 which is the bolt action version. If you were to consider getting a Barrett light fifty, this cannot be denied to be one of the competitive contenders on the list to choose from mainly due to the cost compared to the other M82's but also featuring officially licensed markings and upgraded parts as standard.
Below are a few more pictures of the gun and tips on how to install your M82 without damaging your barrel.


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Finance & Development, March 1986
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Finance & Development, March 1986
- Adjustment, growth, and the Fund's role: Interview with the Deputy Managing Director of the IMF
- Economic aid reconsidered A fresh look at development aid: Major findings of a Development Committee task force
- The effectiveness of aid: The record and the lessons
- Collaboration between aid agencies and the IMF
- A review of OPEC aid efforts: Experience of the first 25 years
- Africa: Development challenges and the World Bank's response
- Effects of Fund programs: Global effects of Fund-supported programs: Are they properly understood and easily measured? Not entirely
- Economic adjustment and growth: … from the speeches of the Managing Director
- Do Fund-supported adjustment programs retard growth?: A study of available evidence
- Fund-Supported Programs and Income Distribution in LDCs: Distributional Issues in Adjustment Programs are Important but Complex
- Reviewing Public Investment Programs: How The Bank Works with Countries to Assess Priorities
- Review Article: The IMF in A Period of Turbulence: Review Article on Latest Installment of The Fund History
- Re-Examining Urban Poverty and Employment: Improved Incomes and Labor Productivity Hold The Key to Better Results
- Entrepreneurship Development: India's Experience
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U.S. Supreme Court
Leyson v. Davis, 170 U.S. 36 (1898)
Leyson v. Davis
No. 517
Submitted March 14, 1898
Decided April 11, 1898
In a suit commenced in a court of the State of Montana by the administrator of the donor of national bank stock, no written assignment having been made, against the donee to compel the delivery of the certificates to the plaintiff, and against the bank to require it to make a transfer of the stock to the plaintiff, the donee set up that the gift was voluntarily made to him by his father in his lifetime, causa mortis, and on trial it was decided that he was the owner of such stock and of the certificates, and was entitled to have new certificates therefor issued to him by the bank, and a decree having been entered accordingly, it was sustained by the supreme court of the state upon appeal. Held that these matters. raised no federal question; that no title, right, privilege or immunity was specially set up or claimed by the administrator under a law of the United States, and. denied by the highest tribunal of the states, and that. the controversy was merely as to which of the claimants had the superior equity to those shares of stock, and the National Banking Act was only collaterally involved. chanrobles.com-red
This was an action commenced by the special administrator of the estate of Andrew J. Davis, deceased, and continued in the name of his successor, Leyson, administrator with the will annexed, against Andrew J. Davis, Jr., and the First National Bank of Butte, in the District Court of the State of Montana for the County of Silver Bow, to recover 950 shares of the capital stock of the defendant bank, alleged by the administrator to belong to the estate of the deceased, and claimed by the defendant Davis, Jr., under a donatio causa mortis. The prayer of the complaint was that the claim of defendant Davis, Jr., to the stock be declared void; that he be compelled to deliver up the certificates, and that the bank be required to transfer the same on its books, and issue new certificates to plaintiff as administrator.
The answer of Davis, Jr., in addition to his defense, set up affirmative matter and prayed that he be adjudged the owner of the stock; that plaintiff, as administrator, and the estate, be decreed to have no right or interest therein, and that the bank be required to make the proper transfers upon its books to him. The bank answered that it was ready and willing to transfer the shares of stock to the party determined by the court entitled to the same.
The trial court found as facts, in substance, that in the latter part of December, 1889, Andrew J. Davis was, and had been for some months, seriously and dangerously ill, suffering from an ailment of which he died in the month of March following; that being so ill, and in view and expectation of death, but being of sound and disposing mind, he gave to defendant Andrew J. Davis, as a gift, the shares of stock and certificates thereof described in the complaint, and at the same time delivered the certificates to said Andrew J., who then and there received and accepted the same, and who has ever since said gift and delivery retained and held the shares of stock and certificates in his possession, and claimed them as his own; that the deceased had great affection for and confidence in defendant Andrew J., and at the time of the gift of the stock and certificates, and for several years prior thereto, it was and had been the intention of the deceased to give the stock and chanrobles.com-red
certificates to said Andrew J.; that there was no written assignment of the stock or certificates, or power of attorney executed by deceased in connection with the gift, nor any written authority empowering Andrew J., or any other person for him, to transfer the stock and certificates on the books of the bank during the lifetime of the donor, and that there was no transfer made on the books of the bank to Andrew J.; that no other gift than the gift of the stock was made, or attempted to be made, by the deceased to Andrew J.; that the gift of the stock was an absolute gift, and was a valid gift causa mortis, and that defendant Andrew J. had ever since held possession and exercised control and dominion over the stock, with the knowledge of the donor to the time of his death, arising and resulting only from the fact of the gift and the donee's possession. It was therefore concluded that defendant Andrew J. Davis was the owner of the stock and certificates described in the complaint, and entitled to have the shares transferred to him on the books of the bank, and to have new certificates issued to him therefore; that the donor was divested of his possession, dominion, and control of said shares of stock by the gift; that the plaintiff, as administrator, had not, nor had the estate of the deceased, any right, title, or claim in or to the shares of stock or certificates, and that defendant Andrew J. was entitled to a decree in accordance with the prayer of his answer.
The decree was accordingly so entered. On appeal, the Supreme Court of Montana reviewed the facts and the law at length, and elaborately discussed the authorities both in England and in this country, sustained the claim of defendant Davis to the stock, and affirmed the decree. 17 Mont. 220.
A writ of error from this Court was thereafter allowed, and motions made to dismiss or affirm. chanrobles.com-red
MR. CHIEF JUSTICE FULLER, after stating the facts in the foregoing language, delivered the opinion of the Court.
The Supreme Court of Montana held that, as between donor and donee, a valid gift of the stock was made by the delivery thereof, without a transfer of the shares on the books of the bank or endorsement on the back of the certificates themselves, which carried the equitable title, and entitled the donee to call for the legal title as against the representative of the donor's estate. This conclusion was arrived at solely on principles of general law, and, in itself, involved the disposition of no federal question.
It is true that, by section 5139 of the Revised Statutes, shares of the capital stock of national banks are declared to be personal property, "transferable on the books of the association in such manner as may be prescribed in the bylaws or articles of association," and it is conceded by defendant in error that by one of the bylaws of defendant bank, it was prescribed that its stock should be
"assignable and transferable only on the books of this bank, subject to the restrictions and provisions of the banking laws, and transfer book shall be provided, in which all assignments and transfers of stock shall be made. No transfer of stock shall be made without the consent of the board of directors by any stockholder who shall be liable, either as principal debtor or otherwise,"
and that the certificates in question contained the provision: "Transferable only by him or his attorney on the books of this bank on the surrender of this certificate."
But these matters raised no federal question. The rights of third parties, or of creditors, or of the bank were not in issue or determined here, but simply the equities as between the particular parties. The representative of the donor was manifestly bound by the donor's valid acts, and could assert no right superior to his. His right to make the gift was the right to dispose of his own property, and whether, as between him and his donee, the equitable title passed was a question of general or local law. The administrator's claim that he was entitled to receive the stock as representing the estate or for chanrobles.com-red
the benefit of the next of kin rested on that law as administered by the courts of the state.
So far as the act of Congress is concerned, we understand the doctrine to be, as stated in Johnston v. Laflin, 103 U. S. 800, 103 U. S. 804, that
"the transferability of shares in the national banks is not governed by different rules from those which are ordinarily applied to the transfer of shares in other corporate bodies."
In @ 44 U. S. 513, it was said:
"It is true that the charters of the Carrollton Bank and of the Gaslight and Banking Company provide that no transfer of the stock of these corporations shall be valid or effectual until such transfers shall be entered or registered in a book or books to be kept for that purpose by the corporation, but this is manifestly a regulation designed for the security of the bank itself, and of third persons taking transfers of the stock without notice of any prior equitable transfer. It relates to the transfer of the legal title, and not of any equitable interest in the stock subordinate to that title. In the case of Union Bank of Georgetown v. Laird, 2 Wheat. 390, this Court took notice of the distinction between the legal and equitable title in cases of bank stock, where the charter of the bank had provided for the mode of transfer. The general construction which has been put upon the charters of other banks containing similar provisions as to the transfer of their stock is that the provisions are designed solely for the safety and security of the bank itself, and of purchasers without notice, and that, as between vendor and vendee, a transfer not in conformity to such provisions is good to pass the equitable title, and divest the vendor of all interest in the stock. Such are the decisions in the cases of Bank of Utica v. Smalley, 2 Cowen 777, 778; Gilbert v. Manchester Iron Co., 11 Wend. 628; Commercial Bank of Buffalo v. Kortright, 22 Wend. 362; Quiner v. Marblehead Insurance Co., 10 Mass. 476, and Sergeant v. Franklin Ins. Co., 8 Pick. 90."
We cannot perceive that any title, right, privilege, or immunity was specially set up or claimed by the administrator under a law of the United States and denied by the highest chanrobles.com-red
tribunal of the state, which is the ground of jurisdiction relied on. The controversy was merely as to which of the claimants had the superior equity to these shares of stock, and the National Banking Act was only collaterally involved. Conde v. York, 168 U. S. 642; Union National Bank v. Louisville &c. Railway, 163 U. S. 325; Eustis v. Bolles, 150 U. S. 361.
Writ of error dismissed.
MR. JUSTICE HARLAN is of opinion that this Court has jurisdiction, and that the judgment should be affirmed.


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Ice climbing in Tahoe offers beauty, danger
Special to the Nevada Appeal
Ice is defined by the Merriam-Webster dictionary as frozen water. However, as the reader knows, ice has much more meaning than that in our lives. Ice on the road means slower, often more dangerous driving. Ice at the ski resorts means crummy conditions, unless of course you cut your teeth skiing on the East Cost and think that boiler plate equals a mountain in good shape – I'll venture to say that these people are the exception. Ice also means that it's darn cold, at least by California standards. I know, this is all beginning to sound a little bit negative, but ice isn't all bad, right?
When ice forms in the right places, like on the cliffs of waterfalls, it can be quite beautiful. Frozen waterfalls are surreal. They look like someone simply stopped time, and the water, previously free falling, is now stuck in suspended animation. Over time and with fluctuating temperatures, these waterfalls grow into curtains, columns and pillars – natural architectural features with great aesthetic appeal. And, when it forms up in thick, robust floes, it can be exhilarating to climb. However, certain gear and a particular attitude are required to make this sport fun.
I have often written about rock climbing, its history, safety considerations and even style in this column. In many ways ice climbing is nothing like rock climbing. First off, rock rarely changes form over night or even year to year. Significant rock fall that alters a popular climbing area is big news. On the other hand, ice is water, and it continues to flow, grow, shrink or otherwise alter its form rapidly. This is especially true in Tahoe where predominately sunny, moderate weather usually keeps the cold snaps to short intervals.
Ice as a climbing medium is transient. As a result, climbing ice is much more condition-dependent than rock. Although rock, too, has prime conditions dependent upon air temps, sun exposure and lack of moisture, they are far less fickle and easier to predict than the circumstances that lead to good ice.
Accordingly, the Tahoe ice climber must be vigilant and be willing to hike out to potential floes without necessarily being rewarded with quality ice to climb. As a result, when making plans for such an outing, would-be ice climbers often say things like: "We're just gonna head out there for a look-see." Or, after returning from an unsuccessful outing you'll hear things like: "Oh, we just took the ol' picks out for a walk." That's just the way things go sometimes.
It's not just the demands of weather that make ice climbing a challenge. The very system that allows one to ascend vertical ice is in many ways complex and gear-intensive. Here is a list of the requisite gear to get out there comfortably and safely:
First you need alpine boots, steel crampons, two ice axes, a harness, one or two ropes, a dozen ice screws, traditional rock protection, cold-weather clothing (including a lofty down jacket and a hard shell), a helmet, two pairs of gloves (one heavy, one light) and a pack to accommodate the gear. Add to this a thermos full of your preferred hot liquid, some food and water, and your 35-liter pack is jammed full.
So the bag is all packed, the desired floe has come into shape and you're ready to swing the sticks. This is where the fun comes in. Ice climbing is sort of a weird hybrid of aid climbing and free climbing because the climbers use gear to suspend their weight as they climb, but that gear is directly attached to the climber's body. That is not to say the task is an easy one. On the contrary, swinging an ax into ice is physically demanding even on low-angle terrain. Creating footholds by kicking the front-points of the crampon in to solid ice is a challenge as well.
In closing, it should be said that ice climbing is a sport that one should be apprenticed into. It is like building a house. One must learn to master each tool and technique and be able to foresee trouble before one is in it. Then and only then can one cast out on his own. That's not to say that ice climbing is not accessible to the novice. Seek out expert instruction and play it safe. Till it snows, I'll see you at the local floe. Happy Holidays, Tahoe.
• Nick Miley is a freelance writer and columnist living in South Lake Tahoe. He spends his free time exploring the Sierra, learning its history and writing about his experiences. You can contact him at firstname.lastname@example.com. Read more at his blog: tahoepulp.wordpress.com.


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Robotic Arm Deux
From ENGR005 2008
- Improve original robotic arm:
- We will add three more motors.
- Claw to replace pencil holder.
- This will allow the robot arm to pick objects up (perhaps glasses of water) and pour them.
- Waiters will become obsolete!
Original Design
Project Description
- Disassemble original arm.
- Attach three extra motors; five total.
- Zero-Out each.
- Test out the movements.
- Find right coordinates for presentation.
- Stabilize and refine the final product.
- Construction:
- Stability. Keeping the arm level.
- Programming:
- Calibrating five zero values. - Coordinating the motors to result in smooth motion.
Video Examples of Finished Arm
Link to Video: Robot Arm Demo
Link to Video: Robot Arm Gripper Demo
Link to Video: Robot Arm Joint 1 Demo


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Hi, I'm Dr. Fiona Caldwell and I'm a practicing veterinarian at Idaho Veterinary Hospital. I'm answering questions from Pets Best Facebook page today.
The first question comes from Jennifer. "Any recommendations to help clear up tear stains?" Tear staining is really common in the small, white breed dogs. More of the tears actually spill out from the eyes and cause a rust-colored stain on their white fur. Using a product that's meant for tear staining can be effective, something like Angel Eyes, which has an antibiotic in it. It's a mild antibiotic call Tylosin that can be used somewhat long-term and sometimes provides some relief from this.
If you're really careful you can use a really small toothbrush and actually brush the hair. Protecting the fur from the tears would be another thing you can try. If you spray a little hairspray on that toothbrush and then use that to coat the hair, sometimes that can help. Obviously, be sure to avoid getting any products in your pet's eyes.
There is an old wives' tales of using parsley. You could try it. It might not work but it certainly isn't going hurt. You want to use either dried or fresh parsley, probably about a half-teaspoon or so, sprinkled on the food. Some people say that works really well.
The next question comes from Pam, who says, "I have a very spoiled 1½-year-old Border Collie/Lab mix that was diagnosed with a knee problem which resolved, but the anti-inflammatory medications messed up her appetite. I made her human meals using hamburger and grilled chicken to get her to eat and now she refuses her dog food. I've tried several different kinds, wet and dry. Any suggestions?"
This is really common. Dogs are smart, especially Border Collie-type dogs. These guys are really smart and they know that if they refuse their dog food, eventually you're going to cave in and give them people food. What I would I have you do is get your resolve together. She's not going to starve herself. I would put her dog food down and if she doesn't eat, pick it up and feed it to her for dinner. I would do this for at least 48 hours. If she doesn't eat anything in 48 hours, you might contact your veterinarian about what to do next and to make sure that there isn't something else going on with her medication that's causing a serious problem. Most dogs will eat when they're hungry.


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The SAP Arena, opened in September 2005 in Mannheim, is one of the most modern sport and event venues in Europe. The building is a hugely versatile multifunctional arena: as well as ice hockey and handball games, the programme includes classical music concerts, musicals and large conferences held by local companies. Quick and easy conversion from an ice stadium to a handball pitch, a concert hall or a theatre stage is made possible thanks to state-of-the-art technology. Daniel Hopp, managing director of the SAP Arena in Mannheim: "We can reconvert the arena within around 12 hours -that means we can hold completely different events in the same weekend."
The Situation
While in these kinds of contracts the main contractor selects the best technology supplier, the investor still has a say in the matter. As Hopp says, "we want to operate economically without disregarding the need to protect the environment and save resources." The investor, who will also run the Arena for 30 years, has paid careful attention to the issue of operating costs. This coincides well with the company philosophy of Imtech Deutschland GmbH, responsible for practically the entire building services for the SAP Arena project. The company sees itself as a partner for complex building services and integrated project management. "We optimise working processes in line with customer goals. As the main technical service provider we can reduce interfaces to a minimum and reconcile the functions of all systems to the last detail," explains Intech project manager Heiner Daniels. And he adds: "When optimising technical systems we concentrate on type of use, duration of use and investment and operating costs."
The Grundfos Solution
These considerations also played a key role in the selection of the pump supplier, as Heiner Daniels explains: "We decided on Grundfos for this project because this manufacturer offers a complete range of pumps for building services. It also makes sense to single-source all units from the perspectives of technological compatibility and subsequent maintenance." Grundfos pumps were chosen for the water supply (pressure boosting), heating, refrigeration and air conditioning systems.
The Outcome
And -in accordance with the requirements of the investor and future SAP Arena operator -particular attention was paid to low energy costs and seamless integration into the central monitoring system. All the main pumps in the heating and refrigeration sectors are connected via LON-Bus to the central process control system which monitors them for faults. The main pumps are otherwise each equipped with a frequency converter and are speed-controlled so that they operate in the optimum output range at all times. According to Heiner Daniels: "This results in enormous energy savings compared to unregulated units. Speed-controlled pumps also simplify the overall network. We do not need expensive control valves and hydraulic adjustment is far more straightforward." The project manager is also satisfied with the service and advice given by this pump manufacturer and particularly welcomed its support in designing the pressure booster.
Grundfos pumps in the SAP Arena
The SAP Arena, Mannheim
Grundfos pumps in the SAP Arena
- Refrigeration pumps:
dry rotor TP, TPD (Duplex) pumps, TPE, NB end-suction pumps.
- Heating pumps:
Magna, UPE and UPS pumps
- Pressure booster / circulation:
Hydro 2000 ME and Hydromono and/or UP and UPS models UP and/or UPS B 100-series circulator pumps
SAP Arena: The facts The training hall with two ice rinks and a main hall give the impression of being separate building shells connected by a transparent zone. The large conference room with capacity for 13,800 people has a 'floating' conical roof structure which projects far beyond the building shell. Particularly at night when the SAP-Arena in Mannheim is illuminated with coloured light, this floating roof gives the building its unmistakable appearance even from afar. The functions -promenades and theatre boxes and/or stairways are clearly defined in the facade design. An aluminium panel separates the horizontally-divided main facade from the transparent glass facade of the core of the building.
Roof support structure: self-supporting steel truss girder construction with double -walled self-supporting roof structure. Facade: steel, aluminium and glass curtain facade. Gross floor space: 44,200 m² (Arena 36,200 m², training halls 8,000 m²). Ice hockey rink: 30 x 60 m.
"This results in enormous energy savings compared to unregulated units. Speed-controlled pumps also simplify the overall network. We do not need expensive control valves and hydraulic adjustment is far more straightforward." Heiner Daniels
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