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It is, perhaps, the advisor's most formidable challenge: persuading a prospect or client to do what, in your professional opinion, is firmly in that person's best interests.
Call it closing the deal, call it fulfilling your fiduciary responsibility, call it selling an idea — your success as an advisor depends on your ability to convince people to act on your professional advice and do what's best for them, whether it's purchasing a specific product, following through on a recommendation or buying into a strategy or plan you have designed to help them reach their goals. Advisors who are best at closing will tell you that it takes preparation, strong analytic and communication skills, tact, timing, a keen ability to read people, and above all, a strong drive to help them.
Perhaps you fit that description to a large degree already. But even the best closers know there's always room to improve, always more people to help, and always room to grow a practice. Try the following nine battle-tested tactics and you may find yourself accomplishing all that at once.
1. Project and practice transparency.
Trust is the most valuable currency in a strong advisor-client relationship. Establish and sustain it by always being up-front with clients and prospects about how you're compensated, what the pros and cons of specific product or recommendation are, your motivations for a specific recommendation, etc. "It's about full disclosure — sharing everything with them," says investment advisor Anil Vazirani, LUTCF, IAR, QFA, president and CEO of Secured Financial Solutions, LLC, in Scottsdale, Ariz. "That kind of transparency creates tremendous good will and trust."
2. Make everything about the client's best interests.
"You want to offer solutions where it's clear you're putting the client's best interests above your own," Vazirani explains. "Honesty, integrity and good faith effort will triumph over slick salesmanship."
"I position myself not as a salesperson but as a facilitator, one who can offer insight and tools to help shine light on a solution," adds Joe Elsasser, CFP, founder of SocialSecurityTiming.com and Sequent Planning, LLC, in Omaha, Neb.
3. Paint the big picture.
Instead of narrow product recommendations, offer a solutions-based plan that you can later populate with specific products. "It starts with an objective analysis of the client's situation," says Irwin Gross, RFC, CFS, AIF, of Family Wealth Partners in Weston, Fla., "where there's no implied motivation to sell anything. Then you provide tactical but generic solutions designed to get them to where they want to be, with the pros and cons of those solutions. This puts the client squarely in a decision-making position. That, to me, is the essence of getting a client to move forward."
4. Ask questions that help you steer a conversation toward revealing a need or highlighting a problem that needs fixing. Then be the fixer.
"I'll almost always ask a prospect, 'What's the one item of concern in your portfolio you would like me to address?' " says Vazirani. "Once they identify it, that's the issue I'll spend time on first, because if they admit to being concerned about it, they are usually ready to move to address it. I'm following that thread of discontent."
"I ask questions about things that I see in their portfolio that don't make sense," echoes Elsasser, "hopefully to get them to realize things about their strategy that aren't strategic at all."
5. Stoke the client's imagination by connecting solutions to the end game.
"A good closer listens, listens, listens, to understand the consumer's goals, desires, needs and wants," says Vazirani, "then offers a solution that shows the consumer how to get where they want to go." Help clients create a vision for themselves, then show them how to fulfill that vision.
6. Connect recommendations to real-life experiences.
Throughout the process, ask plenty of questions of a client or prospect to uncover a life experience that could help you build a case for why the person needs a specific product. A recent health scare in the family could make a person more inclined to consider long-term care insurance or life insurance, for example. "Drawing out these life experiences can be an incredibly powerful motivator, where people actually convince themselves of the need," says Elsasser. "They're buying as opposed to you selling them something."
7. Tell people something they don't already know about themselves.
Use the information you gather through formal fact-finding, risk profiling and informal conversation with the client to get a comprehensive understanding of the person's situation, mindset, needs and wants. Then show your analytic acumen and demonstrate your commitment to due diligence by providing insights or observations about the person and/or their current portfolio. "Tell them the type of investor you see them as, based on their risk score," suggests Vazirani. Offer a tidbit that might surprise — and galvanize — them: "You're actually in a better position to retire comfortably than you thought" or "You may not be as risk-averse as you claim to be," followed by the "Here's why…"
8. Keep it simple.
As much as you want to provide prospects/clients with tangible, viable solutions, most — though not all — would prefer not to be inundated with too many recommendations, Elsasser observes. What's more, limiting the number of recommendations you make at once tends to add weight to the ones you do make. "You want to prioritize," he says, "so you don't overwhelm people. Outline a plan to the client, but reveal specific recommendations in phases. Build out tasks and timelines for exploring and implementing recommendations for specific parts of the plan."
9. Show them you're a complete package.
Sometimes convincing a client to take your advice is a matter of demonstrating the resourcefulness, expertise and versatility you and your team possess. Having multiple licenses, for example, broadens the range of solutions an advisor can offer. Tout the areas of expertise of your on-staff advisory colleagues and how that might come to bear. And don't be afraid to tell people you're willing to bring in professionals with expertise in areas outside your own firm's (estate attorney, CPA, etc.) when the client situation dictates.
Even a small practice can impress clients and prospects with superior service, an attentive staff and an attractive, vibrant and professional office environment, because as Vazirani points out, "you could be the best closer out there, but it won't matter if your service is lacking or your office is sloppy."
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Bill was my boss on Wall Street in the 1980's. He was a stand-up guy who would take a bullet for his staff. His was the kind of stuff which makes a great military commander, the kind of whom they say, "He was loved by his men." As if it happened yesterday, I can recall him saying, of the illness that eventually carried him off, "It doesn't bother me." Such was the measure of the man.Read More


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At long last, the media has football-related Favre matters to write about. But did they cover his pick-6, or his pic-4"?
•Both New York tabloids had some fun with their back covers, but we'll give the nod to the Post for their front page, above.
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RMV employee charged with producing false documents
Admitted to issuing at least 200 licenses
An employee with the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles is accused by the U.S. Attorney's office of producing false identification documents.
Alexander Brewer, 24, of Boston, works at the RMV office in Revere.
Brewer is accused of knowingly and willfully issuing Massachusetts driver's licenses to individuals who presented legitimate Puerto Rican identity documents, in an identity other than their own, to obtain Massachusetts driver's licenses for the purposes of concealing their true identities.
He was charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States in connection with producing false identification documents.
In the criminal complaint, Brewer admitted to issuing at least 200 licenses to individuals with different identities. Investigators say he worked with two other individuals who acted as brokers in the scheme, and was paid cash by the brokers who brought clients to him to obtain licenses and identification cards.
The U.S. Attorney's office said the activity took place between December 2011 through December 2012. The RMV said Brewer worked as a customer service representative at the Revere Branch from August 2010 until recently.
In a statement, Massachusetts Department of Transportation Registrar Rachel Kaprielian said Brewer was no longer employed by the Registry. "Our internal auditing procedures detected irregularities and we called in our law enforcement partners to investigate. The license and ID credentials involved in this case are being tracked and they are invalid," Kaprielian said. "We have a zero tolerance policy for this type of behavior. It is not a matter of if this type of activity will be detected, it is a matter of when."
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Knoxville, Tenn. – Former University of Tennessee head coach Phillip Fulmer will be honored before Saturday's Tennessee-Alabama football game at Neyland Stadium for his upcoming induction into the National Football Foundation and College Hall of Fame, an honor that will formally be presented to him in December.
Additionally, members of the 1997 Tennessee Volunteers Southeastern Conference champion football team will be honored on the field as this week's Legends of the Game in the same pregame ceremony Saturday evening. More than 40 members of the 1997 team are expected to attend.
Fans are encouraged to enter Neyland Stadium early in order to watch the ceremony, which will begin approximately 22 minutes before the slated kickoff time of 6:05 PM CT.
Fulmer was the head coach at Tennessee from 1993-2008 and finished with a 152-52 record (.744) while also leading the Vols to two SEC championships (1997, 1998). Fulmer is the 22nd former UT player or coach to earn enshrinement and the first since offensive guard Chip Kell in 2006. He is the fourth coach from Tennessee to receive the honor, including General Robert R. Neyland, Bowden Wyatt, and Doug Dickey.
Fulmer led the following year's team, the 1998 Volunteer squad, to the first-ever BCS Championship and the sixth national title in school history.
The 1997 team was ranked in the top 10 the entire season and finished 11-2, winning the school's 12th SEC title at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta with a 30-29 victory over Auburn. The Vols trailed by 10 points twice in the game but rallied for the victory and reached the 11-win plateau for the sixth time. Tennessee won nine consecutive games that season, culminating with the title win over the Tigers, and won all six of their games at Neyland Stadium. Tennessee lost only twice that year: at Florida and against eventual national champion Nebraska (shared the title with Michigan) in the Orange Bowl.
The 11 wins tied the then-school record for wins, eclipsed by the 13 accomplished by the 1998 team that included many of the same players. The Vols finished the year ranked No. 7 in the final Associated Press poll and won by double-digit margins over Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Southern Miss, and Kentucky.
The captains of the 1997 Tennessee squad were a pair of senior All-Americans in quarterback Peyton Manning and defensive lineman Leonard Little. Manning concluded his legendary Volunteer career by earning SEC Player of the Year honors in 1997 and setting 42 NCAA, SEC, and Tennessee records. He also earned the Maxwell, Davey O'Brien National Quarterback, and Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Awards as well as the prestigious Sullivan and Draddy Scholar-Athlete of the Year Awards. Manning completed 287 of 477 passes for 36 touchdowns that season.
The AP Co-Defensive Player of the Year in the SEC, Little earned All-American distinction after leading the Vols with 87 tackles and also recording 8.5 quarterback sacks, 6.5 tackles for loss, and two forced fumbles. Little's defensive unit also set a school record with 47 sacks.
Joining Manning and Little as Tennessee All-SEC performers in 1997 were defensive end and SEC sacks leader Jonathan Brown, defensive back Terry Fair, kicker Jeff Hall, wide receiver Marcus Nash, offensive lineman Trey Teague, linebacker Al Wilson, and running back Jamal Lewis (second team). Lewis also earned Freshman All-American honors after leading all NCAA freshmen in rushing, gaining 1,364 yards on 232 carries, including seven touchdowns, in his first season in a Tennessee uniform.
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Chloe Lattanzi, 25-year-old daughter of Olivia Newton-John, is clearly going through a rebellious phase: This video is surely the antithesis of her Mother's portrayal of the squeaky-clean Sandy in Grease. Graphic images ahead.
In "Play With Me," Chloe acts out killing herself in a multitude fo ways: by electrocution in the bathtub, slitting her wrist, by shooting herself in the head, and another time by snorting cocaine. Each time, she's next to a man who we presume is to be her lover (but, um, why is he dropping a deuce on the john while she's in the tub?). We have no idea what's going on here, but we don't like it.
Chloe has taken to YouTube with a video response, where she suggests her reason for the violence is because "it's an artist's job to challenge ideas. So that's what I'm doing." She continues, "As you can see, I'm a very well-adjusted person. We have morals, and values, and respect life. It's quite obvious." Why all of the death? "It's purely just for artistic value: I don't want to kill myself, I don't want to die, I don't want to kill anybody." To her critics, she asks them to "bring on the negativity because I am a good person." Sure you are, but are you a good songwriter? Eh.
Chloe Lattanzi, Olivia Newton-John's Daughter, In Shocking Suicidal Music Video [HuffPo]
Thank You to all the fans and haters! [YouTube]


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Joined: 30 Sep 2004
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Location: Penrith (where jacarandas remind me of change), New South Wales, Australia
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 10:30 pm
Post subject: the five love languages quiz
This, dear pals, is fun AND illuminating...for one and old...I like the fact that anyone who understands the questions can do it...even the most introverted of souls...those who choose to live alone...the whole lot...imagine if we knew this about our children...newborn...
Feel free to post results...so we other forum folk will know
I'll do a fresh test later today...see if ma scores have changed...
Some who do it are quite surprised by the results...
hugs as ever...close ones if you like the physical side of life...cyberspaced ones if not...
"I've never accepted the external appearance of things as the whole truth. The world is much more elaborate than the nerves of our eye can tell us." - James Gleeson
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Location: Canton, TX USA
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 5:41 am
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OK, I'll bite...here are my quiz results for all to see
They're fairly accurate, too, especially since some physical abilities I once took for granted are now a challenge.
Acts of Service - 8
Physical Touch - 7
Quality Time - 6
Words of Affirmation - 6
Receiving of Gifts - 3
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:59 am
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Hmm, I'm trying to ponder what this means, but here goes:
Quality Time 9
Physical Touch 9
Acts of Service 7
Words of Affirmation 5
Gifts 0
I wasn't sure when I took this initially that it signified much, but I'm reconsidering!
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 10:14 am
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It should not be a surprise dear pals..to know that one's score can vary from day to day...or hour to hour...or golly for that matter from second to second..
9 Words of Affirmation
9 Quality Time
4 Receiving of Gifts
5 Acts of Service
3 Physical Touch
"I've never accepted the external appearance of things as the whole truth. The world is much more elaborate than the nerves of our eye can tell us." - James Gleeson
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Location: Oakland, CA
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:13 pm
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Well, here's mine.
3 Words of Affirmation
8 Quality Time
1 Receiving of Gifts
7 Acts of Service
11 Physical Touch
It was very interesting to me to see that gifts are not so important to me! Nor words. So, it's clear for me that actions truly do speak louder than words!
And I think, Madame, you are correct in that the score may be different from one day to the next.
L'appetit vient en mangeant. -Rabelais
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Location: kingston, ny
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:58 pm
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Madame, I shall pass this quiz on to some family members...but here are my results. Have to say they're quite accurate, as I'd rather have a thank-you hug than a thank-you card...
6 words of affirmation
6 quality time
2 receiving of gifts
4 acts of service
12 physical touch
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:41 pm
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Here's mine taken first thing in the morning
6 Words of Affirmation
11 Quality Time
4 Receiving of Gifts
7 Acts of Service
2 Physical Touch
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:53 pm
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I have three tied:
8 Words of Affirmation
8 Quality Time
4 Receiving of Gifts
2 Acts of Service
8 Physical Touch
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:00 am
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I've got a big
for physical touch and everything else pretty evenly divided. All these years settling for hugs when I could have been asking for cash and candy--oh well.
Madame, you often give us hugs online, but you (and Barbara) seem to need few in return.. strange, huh?
Nima--gifts "zero"? Can't you think of
you'd rather have than a long walk?
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:43 am
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gingerpale..our daughter scored zero with physical...no surprises there..she likes her own space...since she was born methinks
...often as a child she would go to her room...tiny child..to sit on the bed and read and wonder...didn't need all the physical stuff that is presumed...
so...real or cyberspaced hugs on their way to you
"I've never accepted the external appearance of things as the whole truth. The world is much more elaborate than the nerves of our eye can tell us." - James Gleeson
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:17 am
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gingerpale, I know!!!
I can understand some people not attaching too much significance to giving, but zero!?!?! I agree, it's almost disturbing. I'll have to think about it. As far as I can tell, I do like receiving things from loved ones. I've always loved the gift-exchange part of holidays, even though we are told that it's too commercial and superficial. But I guess the questions had you choose what you *prefer* in which case it might be affirmation of another kind.
Food for thought I know.
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:23 am
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Gingerpale I was surpprised at the low level of physical touch required by me. Yet I'm a big hugger of people. Like Madame is too. Perhaps I just feel so loved it isn't important. What I did find interesting was my high score in quality time. Easily explained as I face an uncertain future and spending time with my family and friends is uppermost in my mind always. Building memories I say to Bryan as I suggest things to do together. I must say it is proving to be a great way to live life. We have had some great adventures the last couple of years.
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Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:28 pm
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Interesting survey.... I scored
5 affirmation
9 quality time
0 gifts
7 service
9 touch
The gift part is true for me now. Before I met my husband I thought that a bunch of flowers, box of chocs, etc etc equalled affection etc for birthdays and any other occassion. Then I married a man who did not celebrate birthdays, christmas or any occassion at all.......... He has relaxed a bit now and I do get lovely presents (and always have done) for no reason at all, which I think is best. Shows that you were thought of at some stage of their day.
Having said that, I love getting gifts - but do not expect them. Good time to put in the thanks for the lovely books I received this week.... you know who you are, and thank you very very much!!! Such generous ladies.
Quality time is important to me as my husband travels so much for work (every week at least overnight - plus extended trips every few weeks). Touch as well for the same reason I think.... although the cat loves the attention that he gets when Wayne is away
We believe strongly in talking to each other and talk every day even when he is away. Also in telling each other how we feel and in telling our family and friends our feelings towards them. I think it is important to do things for others, just because you can. So acts of service I am not suprised at seeing so highly rated.
If you cannot feel your arteries hardening, eat more cheese. If you can, drink more red wine. Diet is just "die" with a "t" on the end. Exercise is walking into the kitchen.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 3:20 am
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Thanks for posting this, Madame - it was indeed interesting. Mine are:
7 Words of Affirmation
10 Quality Time
0 Receiving of Gifts
6 Acts of Service
7 Physical Touch
In light of the fact that my current relationship is long-term and long-distance (3000 miles, but I'm moving there in a few months!), I can certainly see why I value time, words, and touch so highly - most of our communication is verbal, and both time and touch are rare and precious. "Service" is a slightly distasteful concept; I want an equal, not a slave, but I do also want someone who will help me if I need it (and of course I will reciprocate).
Gingerpale and Nema, gifts are a funny thing to me. If you expect and don't receive, you're disappointed. If you don't expect and do receive, it can be quite exciting, but you run the risk of feeling beholden, or obligated to reciprocate. And, quite frankly, anyone can give you a necklace, but how many of them can say they love you and really, truly mean it? I'd rather wear the smile of someone who knows they're loved than the necklace of someone who doesn't.
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Well, I don't do falling in love any more, but if I did, this apparently would be me;
Score Love Language
6 Words of Affirmation
9 Quality Time
3 Receiving of Gifts
2 Acts of Service
10 Physical Touch
I suppose the physical contact is what I miss most. But fortunately I have friends and my will is very strong... except where books, chocs and shoes are concerned obviously! I do love being hugged by friends. It's like being surrounded by their warmth of feeling as much as their arms.
Confusion comes fitted as standard.
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TORONTO - Canada is donating several hundred doses of a made-in-Canada experimental Ebola vaccine to help in the West African outbreak response, the federal government revealed Tuesday.
Though precise numbers still need to be worked out, the donation is expected to be in the range of between 800 and 1,000 doses, the government said. As well, Canada is giving the World Health Organization an extra $185,000 — on top of earlier aid totalling $5.2 million — to help with the response to this long and challenging outbreak.
Health Minister Rona Ambrose offered the vaccine to WHO Director General Margaret Chan in a telephone conversation Tuesday, the minister's office said in a release.
"Our government is committed to doing everything we can to support our international partners, including providing staff to assist with the outbreak response, funding and access to our experimental vaccine," Ambrose said.
The news came hours after the World Health Organization announced that a panel of experts it convened had decided that it would be ethical to use untested drugs and vaccine in this epidemic, which is several times larger than any previous outbreak and is proving hard to contain.
That meeting followed the recent announcement that two infected American relief workers became the first people to be treated with an experimental therapy called ZMapp, a cocktail of three monoclonal antibodies. These antibodies — two of which were designed at the National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg — target specific sites on the Ebola virus.
That use of a previously untested therapy broke a logjam that has long bedevilled research into Ebola countermeasures. A number have looked good over the years when tested in primates — including the Canadian vaccine and ZMapp. In fact, in primates the Canadian vaccine seems not only to prevent infection, but to stave off severe disease if given shortly after exposure to the virus.
But in order to know if these tools actually work in humans they would need to be given to people infected with Ebola.
The notion of using untested Ebola drugs or vaccines in Africa was previously seen as a non-starter. So research agencies like the Public Health Agency or the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases have assumed they would need to do initial safety testing of the products in North America before they could be used in Africa.
To that end, the Public Health Agency got a German vaccine production facility to make doses — somewhere around 1,500 — of the experimental vaccine earlier this year. The vaccine, which is not linked at this point to a major drug company, goes by the name VSV-EBOV. Canada owns the intellectual property.
The cost of producing the vaccine illustrates why supplies of experimental Ebola products are in such limited supply. Taylor said the price for producing this batch was between $1,000 and $1,400 per dose.
Just how much vaccine Canada has is a bit of a guess at this point. Because the product hasn't been tested in people, it's not known how much vaccine an individual would need to be protected. For the time being, the size of a dose is being extrapolated from the research that has been done on primates. The supplies were to be used for clinical trials.
But as this outbreak has raged on, spreading from Guinea to Sierra Leone and Liberia and now — alarmingly — to Africa's most populous country, Nigeria, the Public Health Agency's ethics committee concluded that some of the experimental vaccine should be made available to the response effort, said Dr. Gregory Taylor, the agency's deputy head.
"We see this as a global resource and we need to have some conversations to figure out what the best use of this experimental vaccine is," Taylor said in an interview.
He acknowledged the number of available doses is small in terms of the overall need.
Taylor said the agency would be discussing options with international partners, the WHO and the affected countries over the coming days to try to come up with a plan for the best use of what is a limited number of vaccine doses.
"It's tough to be speedy. But we're trying to make this as speedy and fast as we possibly can, because of what's going on in Africa."
The early thinking is that it should be offered to health-care workers caring for the infected. They have paid a heavy toll in this outbreak, making up close to 10 per cent of all cases. But even if the supplies are targeted at health-care workers, there won't be enough vaccine to protect all who are at risk.
Ten doses of the vaccine have already been sent to a Geneva hospital, on the request of the WHO and the relief agency Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders). That vaccine is an emergency supply that could be used if a response worker became infected, Taylor said.
The agency will hold back some doses to do toxicology studies on the vaccine and other small studies, Taylor said. As well, Canada would want to have some doses on hand to offer health-care workers if someone with Ebola travelled to Canada and turned up in a hospital here.
He said the agency hopes that people in the field who get the vaccine can be studied, so something is learned from this unprecedented use of experimental Ebola therapeutics.
The Canadian vaccine is one of two main candidate vaccines for Ebola. The other, designed at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, is set to go into initial human safety trials in the U.S. in September. The institute's director, Dr. Anthony Fauci, has said he hopes the study could be completed by January. If all works well, supplies of that vaccine could be available in late 2015, Fauci says.


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Dance. Göteborgs Dans & Teater Festival
The Göteborg Opera 18th & 23rd of May
Performances and party at the Gothenburg Opera as the Göteborgs Dans & Teater Festival opens on the 18th of May. The opening party includes the Göteborg Ballet performing Falter by Johan Inger and Your Passion is Pure Joy to Me by Stijn Celis on the Main stage.
On the 23rd of May, you can see Jérôme Delbeys I shall die in Florence at 20:00 on the Gothenburg Opera Small stage. After the show you can meet the artists.
More information about the Göteborg Dans & Teater festival can be found on www.festival.goteborg.se
The Festival Pass: 150 SEK
Performances with a Festival Pass: 125 SEK/performance
Performances without a Festival Pass: 250 SEK/performance
Tickets and Festival Pass can be purchased at the Göteborg Opera box office. Tickets can also be purchased at ticnet.se
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Your Passion is Pure Joy to Me
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I shall die in Florence
Opening party 18th of May
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Your Passion is Pure Joy to Me
Opening party 18th of May
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I shall die in florence
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Small stage
Johan Inger takes us on an explorative journey from chaos to order with nine dancers, 64 ropes and music from, among others, Alva Noto. His suggestive Falter moves from the fleeting to the permanent; from frenzy to a peaceful calm. The former artistic director for the Cullberg Ballet and current resident choreographer at Nederlands Dans Theater (NDT) has created his first production exclusively for The Göteborg Ballet.
Johan Inger made his breakthrough as a choreographer in 1995 after a very successful dancing career including time spent with Kungliga Baletten in Stockholm and Nederlands Dans Theater (NDT). Inger's choreographies have won awards in the Netherlands, Scotland and Italy. Between 2003 and 2008 he was the artistic director of Cullbergbaletten and in 2006 he was awarded the Birgit Cullberg scholarship. Since autumn 2009 he has been in-house choreographer for NDT
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Movements towards Trust and Consolation
In our time there is probably no rock star that has grappled quite as much with the question of trust and consolation as the Australian singer and guitarist Nick Cave. His songs consistently revolve around the question of whether or not consolation is possible after one has lived through and survived the most diverse catastrophes, from the great worldwide ones to those that are highly personal and private.
With Nick Cave the question of faith is not so much a question of the existence of God. In his songs it is much more a matter of how one can live with one's memories without being broken, of how, in spite of all the heavy memories, one is able to recreate and retrieve a belief in life.
/ Armin Kerber, dramaturgist for Stijn Celis Your Passion is Pure Joy to Me.
(Excerpt from the programme for In Memoriam.)
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The thought of death unites us human beings. It frightens us, awakens us and makes us aware of life's transience. But above all, it reminds us of the value of caring for life and each other. It is the personal meetings that make us who we are. It is said that life passes in review within us when we die. Who are the ones we will meet when we leave this life?
In this emotional and highly personal piece Jérôme Delbey - choreographer and dancer in The Göteborg Ballet - explores our soul's relationship to life, death and life thereafter. With the butterfly as a symbol of metamorphosis, he seeks with the dancers help the answer to one of humanity's oldest questions: What happens to the soul in the moment of death?
/ Jérôme Delbey
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Johan Inger, choreographer and scenographer, was born in Stockholm and trained at Kungliga Teaterns Balettelevskola (The Royal Theatre's Ballet School) and at the National Ballet School in Canada. In 1985 he became employed at Kungliga Baletten (The Royal Ballet) in Stockholm where he was appointed soloist in 1989. In 1990 he became engaged in Nederlands Dans Theater (NDT) in Holland where he performed leading roles in works of, among others, Jirí Kylián, Nacho Duato, Ohad Naharin and Mats Ek.
Stijn Celis (b. 1964) grew up in Zaire, moved to Belgium in 1972 and trained to become a dancer at the Koninglijk Ballet School in Antwerp. Today he lives in the French-speaking part of Switzerland. In 1982 he became employed at the Royal Ballet in Flanders, four years later he moved on to the Zürich Ballet, then to Zürich Modern Dance Company and from 1992 to the Ballet de Grand Theatre de Genève, where he also began his career as a choreographer.
Jérôme Delbey was born in 1975 in Croix (France). He began his dance training in his hometown at the Ecole nationale de danse in Tourcoing. He also studied three years at the Ecole supérieure d´arts appliqués et du textile in Roubaix and, in 1993, graduated with a degree in applied arts. He then joined the Jeune ballet international in the Ecole supérieure de danse Rosella Hightower in Cannes (France). After 11 years in Germany with the Badisches Staatstheater Karlsruhe and the Theater Regensburg, Jérôme was engaged in 2006 by The Göteborg Ballet.
In addition to creating several works for workshops and freelance projects he choreographed Mauvais Anges for The Göteborg Ballet in 2007, which was awarded with the Scapino Production Price at the 22nd International Choreography Competition in Hannover (Germany) in 2008 and the 3rd Price at the Cross Connection International Choreography Competition in Copenhagen (Denmark). He is also the choreographer of Skin for the Scapino Ballet Rotterdam, 2009, and Soldat, 2010, with dancer Erik Johansson.


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Life requires balance. Long days of work insist on subsequent days off to re-energize and inspire. Non-fiction reading and classic literature demand the occasional trashy romance novel thrown into the reading mix once in awhile. And most importantly when the sugar intake is high – as is often the case during this season – then one needs to balance that with a salty snack. Bring in the nuts.
These spiced nuts in and of themselves are an edible representation of balanced living. Multiple dimensions of sweetness coat the nuts in the form of maple syrup and Turbinado sugar, while a savory finish lingers on the tongue thanks to fresh herbs and cayenne. Don't be stingy with the salt – they can handle it, in fact they require it.
Feel free to leave out the egg white if it seems too much hassle but what you'll be missing is an even thicker and crispier coat of sweet and salty perfection. If you do use the white make sure it's whipped good and frothy – like a nice cap of foam found on your morning latte.
These spiced nuts make a lovely little hostess gift. I visited my local Goodwill and found several cool dishes costing no more than $1.99. A package of these nuts in a funky, little dish along with a festive bow makes a simple, inexpensive yet very appreciated gift.
Make sure to save some for yourself so you have a little salty snack to munch on while baking all your sweet holiday cookies and candies because remember, it's all about balance.
Sweet and Savory Spiced Nuts
adapted from sevenspoons.net
2 tablespoons butter
1/4 cup maple syrup
2 tablespoons Turbinado sugar
1 teaspoon finely minced fresh thyme
1/2 teaspoon finely minced fresh rosemary
1/4 teaspoon cayenne
1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1 teaspoon coarse salt
1 egg white
1 pound raw, mixed nuts
Fleur de sel or other sea salt, to finish
Preheat an oven to 375ºF. Line a standard half sheet pan with parchment paper.
In a small saucepan over medium heat, melt the butter with the maple syrup and Turbinado (dark brown sugar is also fine). Once melted, remove from the heat and stir in the herbs, spices and salt.
In a large bowl whip the egg white until frothy. Toss in the nuts, then stir to coat. Add the butter and spice mixture. Spread nuts in a single layer on the prepared pan.
Bake in the preheated oven, turning occasionally, until the nuts are glazed and shiny with a deep golden color, around 15 minutes. Remove from the oven then sprinkle lightly with more salt (fleur de sel or Maldon are great) and stir again.
Cool completely then store in an airtight container.
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The World Health Organization has just published "Safety issues in the preparation of homeopathic medicines". It is a technical document as a response to requests and recommendations made by relevant World Health Assembly resolutions, by Member States, as well as international conferences of drug regulatory authorities, and is a part of the implementation of the WHO Traditional Medicine Strategy and the WHO Medicines Strategy.
WHO states that homeopathy is used worldwide, but that the national regulatory framework and the place of homeopathy within the health care system differ from country to country.
The document aims to provide guidance to Member States on technical aspects of the production and manufacture of homeopathic medicines that potentially have implications for their safety.
This is of relevance for establishing national quality standards and specifications for homeopathic medicines, as well as for controlling their quality. The document does not address issues of efficacy or clinical utilization.
The terms used in this document are defined and annexed as a reference.
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Monday, February 23, 2009
93 Current: Lucifer, Christ and the Pros and Cons of Sun Worship
There's a lot of talk about the "Illuminati" that revolves around two main ideas: one, that they are "Luciferian"; and two, that they employ symbols and narratives that relate to the "pagan" practice of Sun worship.
First up: The Sun has two faces, if you will: 1) the visible, material Sun, that gives light and (organic) life to this system, whose number is 666; and 2) the hidden or black Sun, whose number is 888 and who relates to Sirius, the "Sun behind the sun," and (as I understand it) is an Opening or Portal (cosmic vagina?) that takes any aspiring Soul who makes it past the Archons out of this fallen Universe (B-reality) into the Primary Reality of Universe A, the realm of the divine, also known as Paradise (the third attention in Castaneda).
Next up: Archetypally, the Sun is the true Morning Star. Venus is not a star but a planet, it heralds morning but does not bring it: the morning is brought by the Sun, making it not just the Morning Star but also the "Lightbringer" - namely, Lucifer (666). However, the Sun is also "the way, the truth, the light," the vesica piscis, the intersection between earthly and divine consciousness, Christ, 888.
Third up: the beast 666 is an instructor who - either by deliberate deception (assuming airs) or, more likely, through our own tendency to take appearances for reality - becomes a surrogate for God, a false prophet, a pretender and deceiver (BO anyone?). This is because the beast - organic existence - is a gateway to the divine (a vessel for it), but if taken for the divine itself (since it is without consciousness or "light" of its own) becomes a trap, a snare, a road not to immortality (the goal of the old seers and modern post-humanists both), but to "damnation."
Lucifer brings the light but is not the light; the light He brings is Christ, Lucifer's younger/twin brother. So to worship the Sun is to take the finger for the Moon, the form for the force, and become fixated on - and trapped within - "the world of shells" - the shadow realm where Qlipoth feed. One must embody the Sun, as a solar/Lucifer being, and so become "bride of Christ" - merging with one's hidden, apparently "dark" (yin) nature that is the Other, the true hidden source of light - immortal spirit that lies beyond body and soul, both of which are temporal, and so also temporary, as is the Sun and Stars, all of which are under the dominion, at least at this time, of Ahriman, decay.
There is one law: the law of the Sun. And that law is Love. DO with it WHAT THOU WILT.
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The lightening rounds are my favorite part because the of the fast pace flow. I love the Lunatic Tunes episode too. You bridged the gap from radio to art form. You're effort is much appreciated. BO is also BS, Barry Sortereo aka Belief System, you know the rest.
Peace be with you AK and much love
- 3:05 pm, February 23, 2009
- Anadæ Quenyan Effro said...
Your arch-tickle here just simply rocks, Aeolus. I used to be a dispatcher in the Big Apple in (roughly) 1980 & then again from 1988 'til 1993; one of our bike messengers, Andy, a member in the Golden Dawn, used to greet me & part on a run with, "93 in 93!"
There are, as you your(s)elf are well apprised of & Gno so well, many parallels betwixt His Eminence Lucifer & Yaheshuah ben Pantera, His earthly Davidic kin.
Even in the art & science of miracle-working, three factors stand out; 1.) that they took place near water, 2.) that they were on a beach, and 3.) that the planet Venus (Athtar in Arabic, and masculine, not feminine) was in a certain heavenly aspect.
Then again, I was born during Venus as Ninth Lord of the Night, according to the ancient "lost" Tzolk'in civilisation, over the heart of whose predictions "our" year 2012 is centre'd much fanfare these dayze.
Excellent, excellent food for Thoth here, as is to be expected from you, Frater Kephas.
A Moonchilde born near Midsummer's,
Anadæ Effro ( ;-)}
- 6:24 pm, February 23, 2009
- Dennis/87 said...
Shine forth brave soul. Yes the sun. Isis queen of heaven, Hail Isis. Hail the sun in all it's manifestations. Spring is almost here. Dennis from Oregon
- 8:26 pm, February 23, 2009
- Jasun said...
Thanks James, Anadae, Dennis: advice to any artist or anyone at all - ignore the positive feedback, focus only on the negative.
But where is it?!!!
Are you guys trying to turn me into Icarus so you can watch the meltdown? ; )
Some critical savaging, if you please!
- 9:13 pm, February 23, 2009
Just an observation. You'll upset / alienate your christian listeners if you carry on in this vein. Although I doubt you are unaware of that probability.
I'm not a christian, so I don't mind. I found your take quite refreshing.
- 9:54 pm, February 23, 2009
- Jasun said...
thanks William; I don't think I have ever had, or will ever have, many "Christian listeners" - only those who are really Gnostics in denial, as i understand them anyway.
For example, a worthy Christian warrior today just wrote me "I am Christian not seeking gnosis without Christ"; yet gnosis IS of Christ and nothing else. The difference is that the Gnostic understands - through gnosis - that s/he IS Christ, while the christian still insists on worshipping Christ as the Other. This then creates the necessity of an anti-Christ, a Shadow Other, satan. This is what makes christianity, like all human belief systems, give or take, a form of "satanic" (self) deception.
And you're right, Christians DON'T want to hear that!
To the lions with 'em!
- 10:31 pm, February 23, 2009
- StrangEye said...
Nice work AK.
888 and who relates to Sirius, the "Sun behind the sun," and (as I understand it) is an Opening or Portal (cosmic vagina?) that takes any aspiring Soul who makes it past the Archons out of this fallen Universe (B-reality) into the Primary Reality of Universe A, the realm of the divine
along these line both the Essenes and their communal neighbors the Ebionites tell a story of the Christ (Krst) passing into the Vortex which separates this "world" from the "next world" for 3 days to clean out the Archons that were stealing souls on their journey.
"No one may come to the FATHER except through me...", we're told.
- 11:11 pm, February 23, 2009
- Sounder said...
An old friend of mine, who is a Steiner devotee, once told me of his (or Steiners) take on the 'I am the way, the truth and the light' sentence of the Bible. He said that 'the way' represents Ahriman or belief, the light represents Lucifer (imagination?) and that reconciliation is found in Christ or the Truth. He used a road as allegory, where the way and the light are on the sides of the road while Christ is walking down the center.
This works well in the model that I use, where (in their negative aspect) Satan is the static principle, Lucifer is the principle of indiscriminate change and Christ is the substance that holds the poles in a loving embrace. The static principle says; do what you are told, and have appeal to folk searching for salvation. The Luciferic pole appeals to folk that see the self as the problem, where self-abdignation or transcendence is seen as the solution. Most people are not so self obsessed and are driven by desire for fellowship, but Dualism tends to give authority to extremists (egoists). The negative sides come out while beliefs battle imagination, but these things will be reconciled and redeemed through Christ.
Hey Dennis, good to see you around.
- 7:28 am, February 24, 2009
- Sil said...
That's funny what you said about Christians not getting it, and the satanic self deception. I was seeing a Jehovah's Witness for a (very) short period of time (I didn't know what he believed at first) and their take on things is more backwards than most Christian religions.
(This is soule from your forum, by the way)
- 11:37 am, February 24, 2009
- skrambo said...
666/Sun/Leo (Astrological Leos: "The Beast" Aleister Crowley, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Barack Obama, me) and 888 (I was born on 8/88) are the "dualistic pillars", actually two sides of the same equilibrium pillar. You've done a great job outlining the subject in a comprehensive way.
Sorry for not being negative enough ;)
- 1:00 pm, February 24, 2009
- Sounder said...
The key here is "like all human belief systems". Christianity is simply another variation.
And the Witnesses? I have so much fun with them. Both they and the Mormans have put me on their do not call list. I miss them.
- 1:21 pm, February 24, 2009
I really hate to say this, but again, we are talking about masculine archetypes almost exclusively, and the People of the Book, all of them, not just the Christians, have done their best to deprive women of any way at all of relating to the divine, or for men to relate to the divine Feminine...there is no Goddess, the Sun is seen as masculine...women's only role model is a virgin...Christ, the way to God, is masculine and the Earth and Moon are the abode of trapped souls, or something like that. Heaven help us, what are we to do? Is it any wonder that UFOs are appearing by the dozen and "aliens" are kidnapping people from their beds when conciousness of the Divine Feminine, the great Goddess is so repressed?
- 2:28 pm, February 24, 2009
Let your guest talk more than you. Don't ramble too much on one subject. Keep things flowing. It's nice that you have outlines ready before the show but deliberating during the show makes for jibber jabber.
in response to auroragirl's comment: I can't get a job with my beard. People require me to pretend to look like a Woman to fit in. If Society would allow Men to be masculine then we would have some female deities.
"Tweedledum(MoM) and Tweedledee(PoP) Agreed to have a battle"
- 5:40 pm, February 24, 2009
i'm very bitter about circumcision, the idolization of females and reverse racism of equal opportunity employment. Fighting racism and sexism with more racism and sexism.
Didn't Metallica do ditty about that.
I don't want to offend anyone but I've been doing that my entire life.
- 5:56 pm, February 24, 2009
- Anadæ Quenyan Effro said...
Anyone here whose androphile AND non-X-ian predilections would like some furtherance oughta go to Pagan Men For Men as I did.
Not everyone's a Thelemite there, or a Brujo, a Warlock, a Feri, an Elfin (like me), or what-have-you, but the strata of non-mainstream Traditions there are multiferous & varied.
I, too, James, cannot find a "slave" (read: gainful employment) with my past-my-shoulderlength tresses. By Jove, I do b'lieve I'll be re-adding to my history of facial hair configurations again soon! Hey, yeah!
A happy homo hair farmer,
Anadæ Effro ( :-)}
- 6:43 pm, February 24, 2009
- Jasun said...
thanks Ratte-boy - very helpful. It sort of lets me off the hook, hearing that, coz the truth is, I am conscious of trying to contribute as much as my guests to the conversation, thereby ensuring that it is such, and not just an interview... The result is that, sometimes, as you've noticed, I wind up talking over my own questions!
AG: Moon corresponds with Crone aspect of feminine, Kali with her barren womb, and yes, a prison for souls; Earth however is anything but a prison, the fecund womb through which the Sun's "emissions" (light) can engender life. (The true alchemical marriage is not Sun & Moon but Earth & sun.) So Earth is the mother aspect of the feminine, Moon the crone, and the third aspect, the Virgin, corresponds with Infinite Space. The Universe, as don Juan told Carlos, is primarily feminine.
As for the aliens and the goddess, as happens I write something similar (albeit from a male POV) in Homo S: "In the final, global enactment, what we are witnessing is the power of the sacred, satanic Female, a power that has so completely taken hold of the species that it is rapidly emerging before our eyes as a weird collective of little grey aliens! Meanwhile, a spurned mother Earth prepares to let us have it."
- 8:20 pm, February 24, 2009
- dudivie said...
The only Illuminati that
really has impact on everybodis life is himself. theres no conspiracy other than that of outside intelligence and
that is same for everyone
- 1:29 am, February 25, 2009
- zane said...
Ibn-Pantera huh? Son of the Panther...Son of AllTerra...Joshua Ibn-Nun (the Night Sky also symbolized as the skin of the panther in MesoAmerica)...fun stuff...
Mom's pissed and gonna smack the nasty out of us huh? Ya think? I sometimes wonder if it isn't crank up the libido and churn out the kids time on planet Earth, for the last few thousand years maybe, 'cause she knows something's comin' and she wants to make sure she's got the nerve for what's at hand...tick...tock...apparently we've bottlenecked before...maybe her awareness is preparing for another reduction...and transformation...
- 2:43 am, February 25, 2009
What I mean is that women have no trouble going into the depths and then rising to the surface again (going down into the unconcious and then coming back to conciousness again) but with out access to Divine Feminine archetypes that resonate with the feminine soul (I am thinking mainly of Western women, here), we cannot go higher in a feminine way...we have to become erzatz men and then we become aberational. In other words, we are comdemed to walk the Earth forever. Of course the Earth is feminine, fertile and wonderful...haven't I said so before? And maybe the Virgin is an archetype for Space, but so what? I am talking about the paucity of feminine archetypes here. Always we are forced into a Masculine mould, always defined by a foreign conciousness, and when we attempt to define ourselves, we are called Gorgons and Harpies, as if self-definition is monstrous. Both sexes are furious over the present situation...all we (both sexes) want is connection and we dont know how to go about it! Yikes, what a mess. I would like to suggest we start calling "aliens" Gnomes of Gnosis. Maybe I got that from somewhere else, I can't remember anymore...but I like the sound of it, and it makes them much less threatening
- 7:49 am, February 25, 2009
- Sounder said...
AK wrote…
'So Earth is the mother aspect of the feminine, Moon the crone, and the third aspect, the Virgin, corresponds with Infinite Space.'
AK, do you see correspondence between earth as mother, and the unicorn 'chained' to earth that is on the right side of the entry to the capital building of Winnipeg?
- 8:54 am, February 25, 2009
There is a feminine archetype that corresponds to neither virgin, mother, nor crone...the magdalene. Owned by no man, like a virgin, childless, unlike a mother but sexually knowlegeable like one. She is sexually mature but unowned by a man, and in fact it was she who annointed the Christ, his feet with her tears and his head with balm. And the fact that she is forgotten and ignored speaks volumes.
- 10:14 am, February 25, 2009
- Jasun said...
that is the whore. corresponds with the mother - or rather, is the movement from virgin to mother, as in Virgin Mary/Mary Magdalena carrying Christ's seed.
- 10:24 am, February 25, 2009
But what makes her a "whore" is not that she has had intercourse, but that she is not owned by a man...that is what makes her disturbing, not that she has had sex and maybe born a child, although a child born out-of-wedlock (an interesting term in itself) would complicate things for the patriarchy, wouldn't it? Especially if it was the man's first-born? But why should it be a whore who annoints the Christ? Why is it important that he be annointed by an unmarried but sexually knowlegeable woman, who may or may not be a mother (we don't know whether or not Mary M had born a child when she annointed Christ). Could it be that what the Christ needs is something that men don't have? Could it be that what the Christ needs is Feminine Gnosis, which is so different that the Masculine, maybe because the Universe is essentially feminine, like Castenada said? And even if that is true, it still doesn't answer the question of why the Annointer of Christ should be so diminished, forgotten and discarded, unless the Masculine just cannot bear to see itself as beholden to the Feminine in any way. Or maybe that the Masculine can articulate Gnosis, but it cannot discover it on its own? There are many possiblilties, and I am only exploring them.
Hey, Sounder, the next time the Witnesses come around your area, why don't you walk along with them? The streets are public and they couldn't stop you. In fact, they might start running to get away from you lol
Zane, I wrote something similar about the "problem" (whose problem?) of "over population" (which population) awhile back on another forum...if disaster (bad star?) is coming, we could use a few spare people around. If we are going to freeze instead of drown this time, could that be why they are so intent upon clearing out the tropical countries of their native populations?
- 11:58 am, February 25, 2009
- Anadæ Quenyan Effro said...
Aurora Girl, I did some thinking & I think that you would be the first to appreciate this link, a "chalice" maintained by the womynfolk of The Star House, a kind of deeply spiritually resonant group that you, your(s)elf, may find an affinity with.
Ceremoniously artistically yours,
Anadæ Effro ( :-)}
- 5:15 pm, February 25, 2009
- skrambo said...
AG - Actually, the "feminine" archetypes you're looking for are in the "submissive" sector of the mind, for reasons unknown to me as women have dominated my life in great, awful and neutral (wonderful) ways, as the Bull and the Angel, yellow (earth) and blue (water), so when people speak of Lucifer they speak of the "feminine". Plenty of recognition, though intentionally manipulated. I agree that the feminine aspect is somewhat "hidden" like everything else that's important, really it's overshadowed because we can't have "weak feminine types" running around pointing out injustices and stuff... ;[ remember that you do not have to take position in any of the archetypal minds, we are the center, the observer.
James - I love that song. Metallica and I go way back. Thanks for posting it. Trapped Under Ice is good in this context as well, just for being an awesome song.
Done showboating now, AK...
- 11:28 pm, February 25, 2009
Thankyou so much for the wonderful, lovely link, Anadae. Why is peace and love so threatening to the Patriarchal psyche, do you think? Oddly enough, I "married" my animus last night. The ceremony came to me quite spontaneously (I haven't worn my "real" wedding ring in years). Although I don't know why, I was thinking of the "right hand rings" for successful career women that jewelers were advertizing a few years back when I suddenly felt inspired to do the same thing. I polished up an old silver ring and as I put it on my right hand ring finger, while thinking about my animus I said, "with this ring, I thee wed". That seemed to be enough...I felt something turn over inside me, but just what it was only time will tell.
p.s. I am an artist, too. I draw beautifully and paint and am a very good dancer. I also weave and spin. How I would love to be able to go to the Star House, but it makes me happy just to know it is there.
..."almost cut my hair, happened just the other day. It was gettin' kinda long, could have said it was in my way. But I didn't and I wonder why...guess I'll let my freak flag fly..." and I forget the rest.
"...can you cook, can you sew, well I don't want to know, 'cause that's not what you need on the inside...to make the go..."
- 9:25 am, February 26, 2009
Hi tommy. What do you mean by "the submissive sector of the mind"?
- 12:36 pm, February 26, 2009
- The Secret Sun said...
I think in the future we will look back and see the myth of the Illuminati as a projection of the unacknowledged shadow side of Christianity- those who are unable to acknowledge their own unbridled avarice, their own overweening totalitarian impulses, their own sanctified genocidal fantasies project them on to amorphous bands of plutocrats. Couple this with the often-justified inferiority complex that many Fundamentalists are constantly nursing and it makes for a toxic stew.
Certainly there is strong evidence of some kind of sun worship among certain corporate and governmental interests, but these are the exact same people whom the religious right surrendered their souls to 30 years ago in a vain bid for earthly power (which is in direct defiance of Jesus' teachings). Already we're seeing a very chastened attitude among serious Christians. It will be interesting to see how that develops.
As I've written on the blog I love the Sun and I think solar symbolism is powerful and has beneficial psychological effects. I don't think sun worship in and of itself makes a lot of sense to me, but I certainly am fascinated by it.
Those of us in the Ancient and Exalted Brotherhood of Chronic Pain aren't real big on nature worship per se,and tend to be sympathetic to Gnostic opinions on the created world as a prison for pure spirit.
wordver synch- Ectotond "Outside the Eschaton?"
- 12:52 pm, February 26, 2009
- Jasun said...
I Love the Sun too, with every fiber of my being. Perhaps in part because it is a way OUT the prison-matrix of the flesh?
But also because, as a living, sentient BEING, alive to its deepest recesses, and source of all I am, I recognize it as the true Father I never (knew I) had?
But it is a poor son who worships the Father (as the Lucifer/Christ myth reveals).
"I and the father are One."
- 1:41 pm, February 26, 2009
- Jasun said...
PS. "Ancient and Exalted Brotherhood of Chronic Pain"
Now THAT sounds like a club I haveta join. Not for lightweights! ; )
- 1:42 pm, February 26, 2009
- The Secret Sun said...
It's true- we are all made of the Sun, so the Sun is in a material sense our "heavenly father." But at the same time the Sun is just a part of an infinite universe made up of trillions of Suns. I've always felt that a very strange awareness of the Universe outside of this world and to me it is very much a sentient being.
Having studied Sun worship right up to the present day (particularly the crypto-Mihtraic elements of the religious right) I see Sun worship as an expression of masculine energy, phallus writ large. Sun cults throughout history have attracted alpha males and stressed discipline, militarism, heirarchy, and aggression. All very left-brained, unambiguous, ascetic. But at the same time very rich and mysterious. I'll be doing a piece on Mithraism soon that might surprise a lot of people.
- 2:24 pm, February 26, 2009
- Cosmic Ti69er said...
I am a Sundancer. I have done it now for two years and I expect to do it every year for the rest of my life. Participating in it has taught me and helped me so much. The sun worhsipers I know are the most balanced and beautiful people I know. A sundancer as I understand it are the christ's for the indigenous people of the plains. originally the sundance was only practiced by men as a means to honour the pain that women go through during childbirth. it brought balance to the communities. now both men and women sundance, and this summer, probably for the first time ever, or at least for a very long time, there is sundance happening in which women will lead moondancing during the night. the ceremonies and their structure all come through dreams.
during a sundance one has no water or food for four days and dances in the sun staring at a tree in the centre. a tree that has attached tobacco ties infused with all the communities prayers. the only way to make it through the sundance is to pray for others and not to focus on one self. as an excercise for focusing collective intent i have yet to experience one so powerful. during the sundance, on the first day one prays for the world, the second day one prays for their community, the third day for one's friends and families, and the gift for the sundancer is that on the last day one can pray for oneself.
there is also the option to pierce at the sundance.
one way is to be attached by peg and rope to a tree from one's chest. then one runs back until the peg rips the skin and sets you free. it is mean't to symbolize the umbilical cord being broken at birth. i.e. rebirth.
you can also drag the buffalo skulls (which i did last time). this is a good way to learn about spirit and will that's for sure.
anyways, obviously the power of the sun can be harnessed by all. healthy and learned sun worship definitely has its place, even in the modern age.
as a ceremony for the rejuvenation and healing of a people, i have never seen anything as powerful as a sundance. in manitoba, this ceremony was illegal 20 years ago, but now it is spreading like a prairie wildfire.
none of us know pain like the pain of the indigenous people. we can learn from them.
- 2:32 pm, February 26, 2009
"And you're right, Christians DON'T want to hear that!
To the lions with 'em!"
very clever
it's problematic exposing the Empire when you are the Empire
"But it is a poor son who worships the Father (as the Lucifer/Christ myth reveals)."
udder twaddle, not one of you has a clue what you're talking about
vanity, with a sideorder of vanity LOL
- 3:10 pm, February 26, 2009
- Jasun said...
spot the christian. : /
do you worship YOUR father then, anon? Down on your knees before him?
I am sure we all shudder at the thought...
- 4:20 pm, February 26, 2009
- skrambo said...
Aurora - I mean the functions of the mind which tell you to submit to a situation, whether it be good (flow with it) or bad, rather than attempt to dominate it. I'm not saying every female is submissive, or that submission is always a bad thing. Sorry I can't explain it any better, it's a form of psychology that I only have amateur knowledge of.
Interesting thoughts, everyone... I am inexperienced, but I do know that not much would happen without the sun around, so yeah... Sun's important.
- 5:45 pm, February 26, 2009
- Jasun said...
I think in the end the subtle nuance of what "worship" really means requires contemplation.
Is it healthy for a son to "adore" (worship) his father? I sure don't think so. Would an upright father (or god) want such worship. Again, can;t see why he would.
It makes more sense to me for a father to worship his children - for gods to worship men.
Yet i relate to Jim's post, and i think active worship of this kind, which is more like loving congress, a relationship of equals, yet full of love and thankfulness, is very healthy indeed. Even vital to our survival at this time.
So again, what do we mean by worship?
To my mind, there is no greater love than that of equals.
- 6:04 pm, February 26, 2009
- Cosmic Ti69er said...
well said aelous. it all depends on how one defines worship. true indeed. for me, i worship "god" through love and sacrifice for others, knowing that in the end this is still a "selfish act" as it is still love for myself, as I am you and you are me. when one sundances one becomes the sun, and the moon, and the wind and the eagles that always seem to fly above...
after reading jung on the weekend, i can really see how the suffering experienced by the indigenous people is clearly a projection of an unbalanced christian belief system. i also can now see how ayahuasca is good for helping people integrate their own personal shadow and therefore help all by doing so.
the indigenous communities i know definitely seem to be spiritual sponges for all western civilizations repressed baggage.
- 6:20 pm, February 26, 2009
AK, I told you, you'd upset the christians!
- 2:29 am, February 27, 2009
- ~Julian West said...
AG: "Gnomes of Gnosis" ... I've been calling "them" 'gnomes' for years now, on behalf of the gnomic utterances "they" have often gifted me.
Zane: insightful comments, very much appreciated! (Pantera = Pan Terra = All-Earth (Whole World) ;)
As for the rest, does the term Cosolargy (formerly "Project X") mean anything to anyone here?
- 9:11 am, February 27, 2009
Thanks, tommy, I understand now...there is no such thing as a stupid question, I guess.
- 9:31 am, February 27, 2009
baptism, christian style: "...if you hold somebody's head underwater long enough, they'll come around to your way of thinking" author unknown to me
- 10:50 am, February 27, 2009
- Newspaceman said...
"I think in the future we will look back and see the myth of the Illuminati as a projection of the unacknowledged shadow side of Christianity
As I've written on the blog I love the Sun and I think solar symbolism is powerful"
Chris, no disrespect, but you have been hoodwinked - either that or you are one of "them".
ps My missus - tipple the hate mail -is a proper Christian, as are her family.
Get your head out your arse
- 1:16 pm, February 27, 2009
- Newspaceman said...
p.s. - I am gnostic 2
- 1:18 pm, February 27, 2009
- Jasun said...
"p.s. - I am gnostic 2"
Not from where i'm standing.
- 3:37 pm, February 27, 2009
- The Secret Sun said...
Here's a book your readers should check out Aeolus- it's called "The Family" and it's about the REAL globalist conspiracy- the one that all the rest of big conspiracy hucksters conveniently never talk about:
A journalist's penetrating and controversial look at the untold story of Christian fundamentalism's most elite organisation: a self-described 'invisible' global network dedicated to a religion of power for the powerful. They are the Family - fundamentalism's avant-garde, waging spiritual war in the halls of American power and around the globe.
They consider themselves the 'new chosen': congressmen, generals and foreign dictators who meet in confidential cells, to pray and plan for a 'leadership led by God', to be won not by force but through 'quiet diplomacy'. Jeff Sharlet is the only journalist to have reported from inside its walls.
THE FAMILY is about this other half of American fundamentalist power - not its angry masses, but its sophisticated elites. In public, they host Prayer Breakfasts; in private they preach a gospel of 'biblical capitalism', military might and a global American empire.
Citing Hitler, Lenin and Mao as leadership models, the Family's current leader, Doug Coe, declares, 'We work with power where we can, build new power where we can't'. Part history, part investigative journalism, THE FAMILY is a compelling account of how fundamentalism came to be interwoven with American power and the no-holds-barred economics of globalisation.
No other book about the Right has exposed the Family or revealed its far-reaching impact on democracy, and no future reckoning of fundamentalism will be able to ignore it.
- 4:17 pm, February 27, 2009
- Jasun said...
thanks CK - why do i get the feeling I'm getting painted as the "conspiracy guy"?
I guess it's because the subject matter is so loaded that even when placed in a wider context, as I try to do, people still get stuck on the lead rather than the alchemical process which I am mapping.
You know in the end, I couldn't care less about global conspiracies, except they make great fodder for self-transformation. Gathering up the darkness so our light can shine forth, that's all I'm trying to do.
- 6:03 pm, February 27, 2009
- Anadæ Quenyan Effro said...
Very much appreciated, Chris, thanks for dropping it. Fear not, though, 'cause they ain't gonna win. I was EXACTLY in the midst of posting this excerpt elsewhere from an essay, originally written in 1984 but revised in 1999, by a Brian Dragon, the Prime Imprimatur of the Pictish Elven Draconian Witchcraft Tradition, "The Hidden Kingdom: A Look at Pictish & Elven Witchcraft", and I quote:
"Obsession with one's work is quite common in the arts and, although the common man may not quite understand it, artists are widely understood to be eccentric and obsessive.
What makes these writers (NOTE: Robert E. Howard & JRR Tolkien) noteworthy is that they shared (without knowledge of each other's work) basically the same rare obsession . The comparisons between the two can make for a fairly long list, though space permits only a few points be be summarized here: Howard's theory of time travel through genetic memories/atavisms of characters rendered unconscious by great psychic stress and reincarnation-based agendas easily compares with Tolkien's Olórë Mallë, the Path of Dreams that could allow the modern mind to travel to the dwellings of Elves in The Book of Lost Tales. Howard makes it central to the Picts' religion that they have been promised by "the Moon God" that even as they had been the first of humankind to walk the world, so should they likewise be the last surviving at the end of ages, a complement to Tolkien's prophesied grand reunion of the Elves at the end of the world that was toasted with every shared drink in Book of Lost Tales with the words, "To the Faring Forth and the Rekindling of the Magic Sun."
Writing at the End of the Age of Man,
Anadæ Effro ( :-)}
- 6:05 pm, February 27, 2009
- The Secret Sun said...
I don't think you're a conspiracy guy, Aeolus. But you know that!
Conspiracy theory is a kind of adolescence, a stage to a larger sense of consciousness; questioning received wisdom, looking for patterns not recognized by the lumpen herd.
There is little doubt in my mind that government, religion and business are by their very nature corrupt and conspiratorial. And now that everything is basically out in the open now, I don't feel the need to consume any of conspiracy material anymore. It's redundant.
- 8:07 pm, February 27, 2009
- Newspaceman said...
Chris, respectfully, you need to be thinking about who founded your country, and the reason why.
I know it does not go down well, but your whole way-of-being has been engineered, manufactured; for example and importantly, the credit crisis.
"The love of money is the root of all evil"
If one looks back as to who founded the US and what is happening in the homeland - Scotland, so to speak, one finds a miniature version.
This can be synchronistically confirmed by the fact that chairman of the almost nationalised Halifax Bank of Scotland was Andy Hornby, Hornby being the quality manufacturer of miniature train sets for the UK market. You will know , yet discount (I take it from your optimism) that James Shelby Downard cited railroads as being important to freeemasons.
I see a world being built, a working prison for humans - you think that is pre adult and redundant.
You are having a laugh? /have read too many comic books/watched too many films/are part of it/think you can make money out it.
Delete as appropriate
cheers, brian
- 1:33 pm, February 28, 2009
p.s. Is a sorcerer simply someone who has learned how to be entirely alone without going mad?
- 7:35 pm, March 01, 2009
CK -- "The Family" has nothing to do with christ or christianity, and simply accepting their self-representation of christianity, based on their appropriation of the term, is v superficial research
it's like saying the Moral Majority is christian
the modern West teems with organizations using christianity as a cover . . . The Family is just another satanic/illuminati cell, whose actual affilliations are with groups like The Global Elders, whose interest is continuing the global consolidation of the West's matriarchies under a (small and continuing) elite
and yup, anybody wanting to throw christians -- or anybody else -- "to the lions" can expect to hear from me
reading this thread confirms how brainwiped most of y'all are
too proud to learn . . . and proud of it!! lol
- 1:04 pm, March 02, 2009
"reading this thread confirms how brainwiped most of y'all are"
Or perhaps, how brainwashed you are...
"too proud to learn . . . and proud of it!! lol"
ditto back to you....
Christianity, indeed all the abrahamic religions are Sacred Cows, whose adherents will not tolerate being critiscised.
- 5:20 pm, March 02, 2009
- Sounder said...
William wrote…
Christianity, indeed all the abrahamic religions are Sacred Cows, whose adherents will not tolerate being critiscised.
Political Correctness is not Christian and they don't like criticism either, just sayin.
Ray wrote…
it's like saying the Moral Majority is Christian
Well Ray, if the Moral Majority fooled 90% of Christians then the discrimination value of the Christian model must be questioned. Likewise with Abraham Vereide, who also uses this 'grant of authority' model to convert an assumed divine sanction into money and power. This is a Christian impulse (imposition of dogma), where the Church had free reign from 327AD till 1031 or so. These were dark days, cruel, brutish and short.
It seems a little too handy to be able to say; oh, those people are really pagans, when they are using your language and belief systems rather than the methods of the pagans.
I forgot to save a link for the following, sorry
Over the years, The Family, according to Sharlet's research (which included a stint infiltrating the group and interviews with its leaders), and its cohorts aided the efforts of such foreign tyrants and butchers as Duvalier in Haiti, Selassie in Ethiopia, Suharto in Indonesia, Savimbi in Angola, Franco in Spain, Marcos in the Philippines and Pinochet in Chile.
The Family was founded by a Norwegian immigrant preacher, Abraham Vereide, in Seattle in 1935 as a businessman's anti-labor alliance. He met the president of U.S. Steel and convinced him to help strengthen, through an uncomplicated brand of Christian fundamentalism, a network of "believing" industrialists, organized through prayer groups to bind together and take on the striking unions.
His earliest arch-enemy was Harry Bridges, head of the San Francisco longshoremen's union, who led a "mass strike" in 1934. Prayer breakfasts including the head of Standard Oil and Folger's Coffee led to the creation of the Industrial Association of San Francisco to defeat the unions. They also went on to be staunch opponents of almost every aspect of President Franklin D. Roosevelt's "New Deal."
"The divine will is revealed in the working of Christian businessmen unhindered by regulations," they claimed, as contrasted to "godless organized labor."
Having grown his influence among industrialists and other enemies of the "New Deal," Vereide moved his operation to Washington, D.C. in 1945, preaching that the essence of faith is wrapped up in authority, obedience, conformity, discipline and slavish loyalty to the nebulous notion of the "person" of Christ, rather than to any particular religion, theology or dogma. This Christ "person" is big, burly and manly, a CEO, a "man without hymns and sob sisters," who functions on behalf of a God "not of ethics, or of morality, but of power." [/quote]
(Maybe he does sound like a bit of an Illuminist in this last paragraph.)
- 1:42 pm, March 03, 2009
- Jolyon said...
Do as thou Wilt, tempered with Love.
- 6:36 pm, March 03, 2009
"Political Correctness is not Christian and they don't like criticism either, just sayin."
Sounder, Fair point. There are many Sacred Cows, which do not react well to being questioned. I'm sure most of us have some of our own, if probed deeply enough.
- 1:48 am, March 04, 2009


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In Pakistan Taliban Kill 10 in Attack on Rival
There has been significant infighting over turf and leadership positions within the Pakistani Taliban, an umbrella organization set up in 2007 to represent roughly 40 insurgent groups, many of whom are waging a bloody campaign against the government.
The compound that was attacked in Spin Dal village in the Orakzai tribal area was owned by militant commander Mullah Nabi, said senior tribal police official Amjad Khan. Nabi was once a close ally to a prominent Pakistani Taliban commander from Orakzai, Mullah Toofan, but the two are now fierce rivals.
Nabi was at the compound when the attack occurred but was not hurt, said Khan. The 10 killed included five children, he said.
The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, with spokesman Ahsanullah Ahsan saying it was carried out because Nabi had turned against the Taliban. Ahsan spoke by telephone from an undisclosed location.
The Pakistani army has waged multiple offensives against the Pakistani Taliban in Orakzai and other parts of the tribal region, but the militants continue to stage frequent attacks against military and civilian targets.
The coast guard camp that was attacked Saturday was in the port city of Gwadar in Baluchistan province, said local coast guard official Hidayat Ullah. The assault initially killed six members of the force and wounded two others, but they later died of their wounds, said Ullah.
No group has claimed responsibility for the attack. Baluchistan is home to both Islamist militants and nationalists who have been waging a decades-long insurgency against the government for greater autonomy and a larger share of the province's natural resources.
A roadside bomb also exploded near a passenger bus elsewhere in the northwest Saturday, killing three people, said police officer Zahir Shah. The attack in Upper Dir in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province also wounded seven people, Shah added.