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George Church, a genetics professor at Harvard Medical School, seeks an adventurous-woman who is interested in giving birth to a Neanderthal baby.
George Church's arguments for the recreation of Neanderthals:
1. Neanderthals were in fact a highly intelligent race and they could be recreated through modern medicine.
2. We can clone all kinds of mammals, so it's very likely that we could clone a human. Why shouldn't we be able to do so?
3. Recreating Neanderthals would benefit mankind. Neanderthals might think differently than we do. We know that they had a larger cranial size. They could even be more intelligent than us.
4. When the time comes to deal with an epidemic or getting off the planet or whatever, it's conceivable that their way of thinking could be beneficial.
5.They could maybe even create a new neo-Neanderthal culture and become a political force. The main goal is to increase diversity. The one thing that is bad for society is low diversity.
6. This is true for culture or evolution, for species and also for whole societies. If you become a monoculture, you are at great risk of perishing.
7. Therefore the recreation of Neanderthals would be mainly a question of societal risk avoidance.'
Popular opinions on bringing Neanderthals back to life:
1. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should…
2. Why would anyone do this, what sort of life would that child have? Unnecessary.
3. This is wrong on so many levels !
4. Another fruitcake out of touch with reality . Surely there are more pressing concerns to be addressed
5. Playing with nature…
6. Did he not get the moral of Jurassic Park – don't mess with nature. As fascinating as it would be to meet another species of hominid, they went extinct for a reason. Beside, this child would be brought up by H. sapiens, nurture would trump nature in personality traits therefore the main scientific gains would be from physical study which we can get from bones anyway – would be interesting to see speech capabilities and vocal range.
7. Disgusting, what would this child be treated as, human or animal to be owned, observed and experimented on? Genetic scientists have lost sight of a moral compass.
8. Plenty around where I live, professor I invite you to come and observe their behaviours.
9. How cruel. If a baby was born like that, he or she would undergo a lifetime of painful experiments and testing and would be treated like some sort of laboratory experiment. It's a terrible thing to try to do, and any woman who agreed to take part in such an experiment would be a lowlife.
10. Maybe we should cure cancer first? No doubt the man is brilliant, but his goals seem a bit misguided.
11. Larger skull size, no woman would volunteer to push that out!
12. He'll have no problem finding a womb for hire, esp if he pays well. But the innocent sounding reasons for doing this 'they think differently and may help us with our problems' are weak and lame. Do they really think we'll fall for that? The real agenda may be much more sinister but will never be revealed.
13. There is a reason they are extinct. I believe this to be unethical, tinkering with nature and evolution in this manner is unlikely to end well. The planet is already overcrowded so it is unwise to introduce an extinct competing species to us. Just because you CAN, it doesn't mean that you SHOULD. The risks outweigh the benefits at this time.
14. Who is going to raise the child, the mother or the scientist ??
15. But what kind of tragic life would that man lead? He would be an experiment. It's inhuman to create life just for observation
16. The poor child would have a very lonely existence, spending its entire life as a scientific experiment and being constantly gawked at like an animal in a zoo. That scientist is a very selfish man.
17. Don't be screwing with nature, Doc. The human species is bad enough as it is, without creating a mutant. Playing God is like playing with fire.
18. How disgusting, to deliberately have a child that will never lead a normal life. Will it live in a cage in a lab ?. Anyway as others have pointed out there are still plenty about if you look round the town. Dolly the sheep didn't last long.
19. So wrong! I thought it was all about evolution, not going back. It's not April Fool's yet, is it, or have I missed something?
20. Sounds awfully like the start of horror movie to me…..
21. I'm all for cloning to be used, for example, to grow single organs, or even to reintroduce a species that we caused to become extinct, and that is needed to maintain an environmental balance. But cloning an intelligent, self-aware being that would be the only one of its species is simply immoral.
22. This is not a good idea, to bring about the birth of a child from an extinct branch of man would be cruel, on its own in our world with no-one of its own race to turn to when its troubled, it would be a prisoner, a lab rat, why not bring back T Rex?, at least it could EAT its tormentors.
23. Primitive man lived in the primitive world, and thats where he should stay.
24. This guy is truly as mad as Frankenstein.
25. Omg, please tell me this is a joke?
Not many people want to bring Neanderthals back to life. My opinion on the return of the Neanderthals is, if a woman agrees to give birth to a Neanderthal baby, then why not? It will be Homo sapien's one of the best scientific achievements if Neanderthals are successfully recreated. I am curious to see the success of the experiment. 100,000 years ago, we shared this planet with several other species of human, all of them clever, resourceful and excellent hunters, but we Homo sapiens only survive. Scientists say, 'one of the crucial elements of Homo sapiens' adaptations is that it combines complex planning, developed in the front of the brain, with language and the ability to spread new ideas from one individual to another'. The Neanderthals died out about 30,000 years ago not only because the Ice Age limited available food supplies, but because Homo sapiens killed them off. Bats, bears, bees, birds, butterflies, buffaloes share their world with many other species of bats, bears, bees, birds, butterflies, buffaloes. Why should humans be afraid to have another species of humans? Just because we can, I think we should. Life without challenges is boring.


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Getting Started ...
This is a basic guide to upgrading Zen Cart®. If you have not yet installed Zen Cart®, please see the /docs/1.readme_installation.html file for installation instructions.
To upgrade Zen Cart®, you'll need the same basic tools you used to install and customize it in the first place: An FTP program, a text editor friendly to HTML/PHP code, phpMyAdmin or equivalent access to your MySQL database, and your Control Panel for managing your webspace.
Additionally, you will find a file-comparison tool (see here for a list of recommended tools: http://www.zen-cart.com/wiki/index.php/Useful_Tools ) is invaluable. (The free tools offer 2-way comparison. The more advanced paid-for tools offer 3-way comparisons which can be very handy, but costly.)
Upgrading follows 3 easy steps. We suggest you take your time going through each stage carefully and methodically. Don't rush the process. And as always, be sure you keep good backups first.
We highly recommend you pay special attention to getting familiar with the demo data in the new version, so that you can become comfortable with the many new features contained in the new release.
CompatibilityFirst, check whether your server is compatible with the version you're trying to install: Server Requirements for Zen Cart versions
1. PreparationUnzip a copy of the new version of Zen Cart®, upload it to your webserver into a "demo" folder, and install the new version into a separate database, and include the Demo products. This is just for a place for you to play with the new version and get used to its new features. These can be deleted after conversion is complete.
Study the new features, and the documented changes to the template structures, as well as the "changelog". Use the demo products in the demo shop as examples. See also the supporting documentation provided with the new release.
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Ned Wertimer
Samela Beasom
Lyrics by
Ted Elliott
Terry Rossio
Music by
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Music Composed by
Hans "Long John" Zimmer
Score Overproduced by
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Bob "Cut 'Em Up" Badami
Melissa "Tortuga Wench" Muik
Executive Soundtrack Album Producers:
Jerry "The Hook" Bruckheimer
Gore "Cap'n" Verbinski
Executive in Charge of Music & Soundtracks for Walt Disney Pictures & the Buena Vista Music Group:
Mitchell "Swabby" Leib
Music Supervisor:
Bob "Cut 'Em Up" Badami
Executive in Charge of Music Production for the Buena Vista Motion Pictures Group:
Monica "Blackheart" Zierhut
Music Creative/Marketing for the Buena Vista Motion Pictures Group:
Glen Lajeski
Music Business & Legal Affairs:
Scott "White Beard" Holtzman
Sylvia "Eagle Eye" Krask
Director of Soundtracks for the Buena Vista Music Group:
Desirée "Pillage" Craig-Ramos
Supervising Technical Music Coordinator:
Thomas "Six Pounders" Broderick
Additional Music by
Lorne "Shiver Me Timbers" Balfe
Tom "Chum Bucket" Gire
Nick "The Admiral" Glennie-Smith
Henry "Jolly Swordfish" Jackman
Atli "Cod Warrior" Örvarsson
John "Red Beard" Sponsler
Geoff "Broadside" Zanelli
Supervising Music Editor:
Melissa "Tortuga Wench" Muik
Music Editors:
Katie "Crazy Katie Cathouse" Greathouse
Barbara "No Quarter" McDermott
Supervising Orchestrator:
Bruce "Crossbones" Fowler
Walt "Argh" Fowler
Elizabeth "Rancid" Finch
Ken "Swashy" Kugler
Suzette "Aye" Moriarty
Steve "Barking" Bartek
Music Preparation:
Booker "Fire Ship" White
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Score Recorded by
Alan "Mizzenmast" Meyerson
Slamm "Scallywag" Andrews
Album Mixed by
Alan "Mizzenmast" Meyerson
Big Al "Rum Ole Boy" Clay
Additional Recording by
Jeff "Bucko" Biggers
Big Al "Rom Ole Boy" Clay
Greg "Sword" Vines
Matt "Mad" Ward
Featured Musicians:
Phil Ayling
: Oboe
Chris Bleth
: Duduk
Pedro Eustache
: Ethnic Woods
Karen Han
: Erhu
Lily Haydn
: Fiddle
Michael "Catgut O' Squeals" Levine
: Fiddle
Frank Marocco
: Accordion
Heitor "Pieces of Eight" Pereira
: Banjo
Simon Phillips
: Drums
Tom Raney
: Cymbalon
Martin "Scourge of the Seven Seas" Tillman
: Cello
Gore "Cap'n" Verbinski
: Guitar
Featured Vocalist:
Delores "Vixen of the Seas" Clay
Orchestra Conducted by
Blake "Blackstone" Neely
Nick "The Admiral" Glennie-Smith
Featured Musician Soloists Co-Produced by
Jimmy "Jostlin' Jig" Levine
Nick "The Admiral" Glennie-Smith
Orchestra Contractors:
Sandy "Smooth Sailing" DeCrescent
Peter "Jolly Rotten" Rotter
Technical Music Assistants:
Pete "Keel Haul" Oso Snell
Kevin "K-Dog" Globerman
Jacob "Buckwald" Shea
Bobby "Burly Booty" Tahouri
Dan "Ear Spit" Zimmermann
Digital Instrument Design by
Mark "Walk The Plank!" Wherry
Production Coordinator for Hans Zimmer:
Andrew "Mad Dog" Zack
Sample Development:
Claudius "String Bucket" Bruese
Sample Development Assistants:
Zain "Cap't Vain" Effendi
Mark "Scuttlin' Sam Pilar" McCormick
Scored Recorded at
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Fox Scoring Stage
, Century City, CA &
Sony Scoring Stage
, Culver City, CA
Choir Recorded by
Geoff "No Prey, No Pay" Foster
Choir Contractor:
Isobel "Jolly Roger" Griffiths
Choir Master:
Jenny "Ahoy Matey!" O'Grady
Metro Voices
Hila Plitmann
Choir Conducted by
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UK Music Preparation:
Jill "Pirate Got Me Eye" Streater
UK Music Coordinator:
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Choir Recorded at
Air Lyndhurst Studios
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Abbey Road Studios
, London
Score Mixed at
Remote Control Productions
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Music Production Services:
Steven "Swagger" Kofsky
Studio Coordinator:
Czarina "Lady Jane" Russell
Music Production Intern:
Seth "Cabin Boy" Glennie-Smith
Scoring Stage Crew:
Chris "Monkey Rage" Barrett
Alison "Queen of the Seas" Burton
Bryan Clementes
Andrew Dudman
Mark Eshelman
Dominic Gonzales
Tom Hardisty
Sam "Terror O' Taunton" Jones
Tim Lauber
Adam Michalak
Francesco Perlangelli
Denis St. Amand
Jay Selvester
Tom Steel
Chelley Sydow
Mastered by
Patricia Sullivan
Bernie Grundman Mastering
, Hollywood, CA
Hans Zimmer would like to thank:
Gore "Cap'n" Verbinski, Jerry "The Hook" Bruckheimer, Pat "Kraken" Sandston, Stephen "The Blade" Rivkin, Craig "Hatchet" Wood, Mitchell "Swabby" Leib, Monica "Blackheart" Zierhut, Becky Bentham, Tiffany "Anne Bonny" Bordenave, Alison Burton, Ronni Chasen, Ramin "Salty Dog" Djawadi, James "Boot Truck" Dooley, Clay "Captain Cash" Duncan, Morgan "Empress" Feeney, Bart "Black Bart" Hendrickson, Alex "Rolls 'em Down" Hill, Zack "Old Shoe" Howard, Jörg Hüttner, Braden "VooDoo Mullet" Kimball, Tami "Salty Wench" Goldman, Dan Goldwasser, Peter "Shiver Me Oscillators" Gorges, Yvette "Rum Cake" Gonzales, Michael Gorfaine, Harry Gregson-Williams, Rupert "Abandon Ship!" Gregson-Williams, Steve "Bad Boy" Jablonsky, Josh "Loot & Booty" Klein, Allie Lee, Henning "Plunder 'n Pillage" Lohner, Christina "Madame Pink" Mansky, Matt "yARRRdstick" Margeson, Ashley "Sea Slug" Olauson, Lance Povlock, Manfred "Governor" Ruerup, Jeff Sanderson, Sam "Shark Tooth" Schwartz, Shalini "Gunwalls Ethel" Singh, Charlie "Wise Bones" Steinberg, Chris "Gust 'o' Wind" Strong, Krista "Hook Darling" Vitt, Ryan A. Watkins & Jill "Cannon Ball" Weiss
Suzanne "Sea Wench" Zimmer, Zoe "Rum Legged" Zimmer, Jake "Black Dog" Zimmer, Max "Sea Dog" Zimmer, Annabel "Treasure" Zimmer & Brigitte Zimmer
The Music Team would like to thank:
Glenis Aquilina, Harriet Badami, Her Grace Lydia Duchess of Bedford, Eva & David Balfe, Huck & Bowie: Crew Therapists, Dee, Georgia & Sammy Clay, Clay Duncan, Eliza Da Silva, Dian, Kaylin Frank, Alyssa & Trentin Gire, Haley, Seth, Joss & Fern Glennie-Smith, Tess Greathouse, Lily His, Ryan Hopman, Jen Jardine, Amanda, Linz, Indiana, Ilan & Gabriella Kofsky, Suzann Levine, Leonie McDermott, Mama & Dori, Joie & Joe Meyerson, Mom & Dad Muik, The Oliphants, Anna Örvarsson, Helena Pereira, Marcus & Anakin Shaw, Sally & Sydney Snell, Debbie, Nick, Rob & Trevor Sponsler, Susiz & Mark, Ewa Tillman, V, Paula "Nana" Williams & Norma Zack
Release date : 05/22/2007
On 2007, May the 19th., Disneyland organized the world premiere from the movie.
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Singapore (3:40) *
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At Wit's End (8:05)
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Multiple Jacks (3:51)
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Up Is Down (2:42)
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I See Dead People In Boats (7:09) +
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The Brethren Court (2:21)
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Parlay (2:10)
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Calypso (3:02)
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What Shall We Die For (2:02)
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I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time (10:45) *
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One Day (4:01)
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Drink Up Me Hearties (4:31)
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Replies: 0 || 2020-07-06 15:49:39
R.I.P. to Ennio Morricone, dead at 91.
For those who aren't as familiar with his material, check out Once Upon a Time in the West, easily one of the greatest scores of the past century. You can definitely hear where Zimmer took inspiration from, for Pirates/Lone Ranger/Sherlock/Rango/etc.
"Parlay" is such a love letter to the main tune from OUATITW...
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|| 2017-12-13 12:13:08
Genuinely mind-blown at this score's under-appreciation...definitely deserved an Academy Award, or a nomination at the very least. One of the greatest film scores of all time.
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Edmund Meinerts
2017-12-13 13:36:00
I wouldn't want to sully this score's reputation by giving it an award as arbitrary and meaningless as the Oscar!
2018-08-22 21:25:56
I don't think this score is underappreciated... At least, not on this site! ;)
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Here's the lineup for the live performance of Pirates Of The Caribbean - At World's End (if i get right):
Keyboards, Electric Guitar & Bandleader
Drums & Percussion
Electric Guitar
Additional Keyboards
And it's all mixed with the orchestral playback.
In a result, a great performance and a great music, as always!
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|| 2016-01-11 22:48:25
Just found out that track 13 had been renamed on the iTunes release: "Drink Up Me Hearties Yo Ho". Has it always been like that? Very strange anyway :-D
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Hybrid Soldier
2016-01-11 22:49:51
Yeah indeed ! O_o
That's pretty lame... lol
2016-01-11 22:51:57
Now I understand why it was written like that in the promotional video for the live tour!!
2016-01-12 12:42:58
lol, strange decisions :D
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I really love the version of that eerie theme from "Trying to Get Lost" (and the Mermaids suite) as it appears at the end Green Flash cue!
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|| 2014-02-22 17:49:04
Did Henry Jackman do up is down? Or did Zimmer do part of that as well.
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2014-02-22 18:47:38
As I understand it, it's the main tune of Zimmer's love theme, arranged that way by Jackman. Whether Zimmer actively helped with that arrangement, idk. It's in the Marry Me suite, but Marry Me is both Zimmer and Jackman (meaning, presumably, that Jackman handled the Up Is Down part from the suite).
But, I don't know. In Hybrid's words, it's all wind.
2014-02-22 18:50:03
IMO Marry Me is one of Zimmer's greatest suites, as an aside. ;)
Hybrid Soldier
2014-02-22 19:40:09
2007 Jackman interview :
"On Da Vinci Code, I sort of felt that Hans was doing the whole thing. For The Simpsons, he wrote a tune for Homer Simpson which is so perfect in capturing his personality. He did that on the piano. He did a piano mock and gave it to the director who found it sounded pretty cool. But not being a musician, he couldn't quite see it. So I came in and made a 6-minute orchestral suite based on that tune and exploring different ways. And then the director said : "OOOh, it's gonna work!" So it all depends. Hans has different relationships with his composers, he knows what they're good at and if he feels that you have an understanding on something, he steps back and just lets you do your thing. He's very flexible."
There was one where he talked specifically about Up Is Down, but I can't find it anymore... lol
2014-02-22 22:04:48
Do you remember anything it said? ;)
2014-02-22 22:18:53
so the homer suite on hans page is zimmer and jackman huh? interesting
2014-02-23 02:23:17
So...It is Zimmer & Jackman. Cool.
2014-03-18 22:53:33
"There was one where he talked specifically about Up Is Down, but I can't find it anymore... lol"
Well in Zimmer's interview for this score, he definitely said the Irish fiddle/swashbuckling sound idea was Jackman. Then judging from the sound of the part at the end, I imagine that's Zimmer again, but I could be wrong. lol.
2014-03-18 23:02:30
That interview is actually intensely interesting, Zimmer goes a great deal into the various cues and themes (and although I didn't know this before, he at least made it SOUND like he wrote the second half of "Beckett's Death", the big dramatic choir part when he gives up and is killed). I guess all this is more complicated, credit-wise, than it would seem. O_O
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Hybrid, since the suites here were co-written to one degree or another (Marry Me is Zimmer and Jackman, Just Good Business is Zimmer and Balfe, Hoist the Colors is Zimmer/Verbinski and NGS...), do you know if any of them were done like the Homer suite from the Simpsons? So with Just Good Business, for example, did Zimmer write the whole suite on a piano, then Balfe orchestrated it, or did Balfe actually *write* that suite/part of it? It doesn't matter, just something I was curious about. :P
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|| 2014-02-23 12:29:20
What is "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time" and "Drink Up Me Hearties" in the expanded score?
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Mortifer V.
2014-02-23 13:55:21
In the official score the "I Don't Think Now Is the Best Time" has two parts which are chronologically reversed. In the extended score the tracks are "Beckett's Death", "Getting the Chest" and "The Wedding".
For "Drink Up Me Hearties" the tracks are "The Fountain of Youth" and the End Credits.
2014-02-24 05:48:56
Thankee mate.
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Hybrid, do you know how much of the Hoist the Colors suite is Nick Glennie Smith's work? Is it a co-written suite, where NGS contributed to this part, then HZ did the next section, or is it that Zimmer basically just did the main tune in its barest essentials and Nick went and made an epic suite out of it?
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|| 2013-08-17 05:34:20
are you telling me that the Director did some of the music?
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2013-08-17 11:42:28
he played guitar
2013-08-17 12:23:55
... and collaborated on the lyrics for the "Hoist the Colours" theme.
2013-08-18 04:27:45
Ok haha
Replies: 0 || 2012-11-30 19:31:53
I hate to be annoying, but I don't suppose a page will be made for this expanded score...? :D
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|| 2012-11-30 11:08:14
Holy S...! The complete sessions have leaked!!!
P3 1m01v2 Hoist the Colours (1:31)
P3 1m02v6 Arrive in Singapore (2:18)
P3 1m03Av1 East India Trading Company (0:27)
P3 1m03Bv3 Getting Ready (1:01)
P3 1m05 7v25 Entering the Bath House (2:55)
P3 1m08v7 Steam Room (0:42)
P3 1m09Av6 Sao Feng Negotiation (5:14)
P3 1m09Bv10 Battle with the Brits (2:21)
P3 2m10v12 Battle Continues - Will Makes Deal (1:37)
P3 2m11v2 Crew Embarks (1:48)
P3 2m12v9 Trying to Get Lost (5:06)
P3 2m13Av10 Davy Jones Command (4:05)
P3 2m13Bv8 Over the Top (2:14)
P3 2m15v6 Multiple Jacks (7:31)
P3 3m16v11 Captain Jack Sparrow (1:19)
P3 3m16Av1 Crabs (0:22)
P3 3m17v6 Rescue Jack (2:25)
P3 3m18v2 Who's Captain - Below Deck (2:09)
P3 3m19v3 Souls at Sea (4:22)
P3 3m20Av4 Dreadlock Jack (2:03)
P3 3m20Bv14 The Green Flash (3:53)
P3 4m20Cv1 We're Back - Wet Powder (1:28)
P3 4m21v41 Jiggy Kraken (4:06)
P3 4m22v2 Jack & Beckett (8:36)
P3 4m22v3 Jack & Beckett (Alt.) (6:20)
P3 4m23v8 Seduction (2:36)
P3 4m24v3 Sao Feng's Death (1:36)
P3 4m24v3.6 Sao Feng's Death (Alt.) (1:36)
P3 5m25v4 Chinese Captured by Brits (0:44)
P3 5m26v13 Bootstraps - Elizabeth Locker (2:28)
P3 5m27v5 Jack Catches Will (1:02)
P3 5m28v9 Escape - Norrington Dies (4:16)
P3 5m29Av30 Mrs. Fish (1:21)
P3 5m29Bpt1v32 Davy Jones Tells Calypso's Story (1:29)
P3 5m29Bpt2v41 Shipwreck Cove (0:56)
P3 5m29Bpt2Altv36.1 Shipwreck Cove (Alt.) (0:57)
P3 5m29Bpt2Altv36 Shipwreck Cove (Alt 2) (0:57)
P3 6m30v5 Brethren Court Begins (1:23)
P3 6m31v4 Calypso Must Be Released (1:07)
P3 6m32v1 Davy Jones Visits Tia Dalma (3:57)
P3 6m33v5 Cuttlefish (1:19)
P3 6m34v5 Teague & The Code (1:37)
P3 6m36v1 King Elizabeth (1:33)
P3 6m37v6 Parlay (2:14)
P3 6m37Altv7 Parlay (Alt.) (2:15)
P3 6m38v1 Trading Places (2:11)
P3 6m39Av1 Flying Dutchman Prison (0:27)
P3 6m39v2 Immortality (0:47)
P3 7m40v2 Calypso on Deck (0:50)
P3 7m41v26 Releasing Calypso (5:02)
P3 7m42v1 Hoist the Colours Declaration (2:17)
P3 7m42Altv3 Hoist the Colours Declaration (Alt.) (2:13)
P3 7m43Av2 Maelstrom Pt. 1 (5:32)
P3 7m43BEndFixv5 Getting the Chest (1:30)
P3 7m43Bv2 Getting the Chest (Alt.) (1:24)
P3 7m43InsAv1 A Lost Bird (1:21)
P3 8m44Av11 The Wedding (3:12)
P3 8m44Aaltv12 The Wedding (Alt.) (3:13)
P3 8m44Bv5 Mealstrom Pt. 2 (5:17)
P3 8m44Baltv8 Maelstrom Pt. 2 (Alt.) (5:07)
P3 8m44Cv12 Davy Death (2:56)
P3 8m44D Liftoff (2:24)
P3 8m44ev11 Beckett Death (5:08)
P3 8m44EAltv12 Beckett Death (Alt.) (5:08)
P3 8m44fv5 Celebration (1:45)
P3 9m46v5 One Day (2:42)
P3 9m47v6 The Ship is Gone (1:19)
P3 9m48v6 The Fountain of Youth (1:32)
P3 9m49Av1 End Titles A (1:17)
P3 9m49Bv1 End Titles B (2:17)
P3 9m51v1 10 Years Later (0:54)
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Hybrid Soldier
2012-11-30 13:40:02
This tracklist is mine.
I mean, it was unnamed, I spent some time gathering all the official cue names I could find and made up the rest. :)
Oh and 2 cues are missing, 5m27B & 8m45... :/
2012-11-30 15:06:48
Hell yes!!! Finally we get the part in the middle of "Liftoff" in good quality :)
2012-11-30 15:34:35
we know it hybrid, we know it. this is again old news for you -.-
Master of Fate
2012-11-30 15:59:56
Stfu xyz.
2012-11-30 17:31:10
Yup. Liftoff was a theme and track that should really be on the official OST. Then the commercial would have all the greatest moment. Strange they left it off. Well at last we have it :)
Hybrid Soldier
2012-11-30 17:41:30
My favorite part is basically Jack & Beckett !
The first part used in the film is the alternate one, then it gets back to the "non alt" one. Sad cause the alternate is much better (kinda Elfmanesque at some point). Love the very end of it, the big reprise of POTC 1 !
I pretty much have all the "who did what" on that one. I guess some would be interested ! :P
2012-11-30 17:59:29
Do you know who did all the Maelstrom stuff? It's pretty awesome.
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Let's all relax, take a deep breath, and listen to At Wit's End.
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|| 2012-10-24 05:42:03
Are there any tracks on here and the Remixed and Unreleased album that contain themes/suites as opposed to cues, like Pirates 2?
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2012-10-24 06:21:32
All of the tracks on the Remixed and Unreleased album are theme suites sans Just Good Business and the remixes of course.
2012-10-24 06:24:01
And The Heart of Davy Jones, and Marry Me, and Lord Cutler Beckett, and The Pirate Lord of Singapore... ;)
2012-10-24 06:29:15
The above are theme suites. Sorry if that was unclear.
Hybrid Soldier
2012-10-24 07:24:48
Just Good Business is a theme suite as well.
All on the OST are cues, apart from the beginning of Singapore which is from Pirate Lord Of Singapore.
2012-10-24 18:35:01
Oops, I thought Just Good Business was Hans' original version of one of the final scenes (can't remember which).
@Mike: That's what I meant in my original comment haha.
2012-10-24 20:48:17
Thank you, everyone.
Hybrid Soldier
2012-10-25 17:13:39
No no MGDrone, it's a HZ/LB theme suite. You can listen to the full version of it (in synth) on Lorne's website... :)
2012-10-26 05:29:53
Now I remember where I saw it, it was on Wikipedia. Thanks for clearing that up, though!
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|| 2012-10-07 01:53:21
This score was the best of the Pirates movies, in my opinion. It was so big and emotional and really conveyed the idea that this was going to be the last movie...
And then they went and made On Stranger Tides. lol.
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Edmund Meinerts
2012-10-25 00:36:19
I totally agree. This one really did feel like an enormous work of art, like Zimmer and all his collaborators came together and really produced something excellent and rich and detailed (the number of themes in this score!!). In fact, each additional music composer had one really amazing cue: Atli Orvarsson has the Beckett death scene, Henry Jackman has Up is Down, Geoff Zanelli has Calypso, etc. And Zimmer's love theme is one of the best theme's he's ever written, IMO.
On Stranger Tides feels like such an afterthought, both the movie and the score.
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I've found the complete Score in Youtube, it seems really good except two tracks with SFX. And it has a very good tracklist
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Replies: 0 || 2012-05-16 03:05:53
Truly amazing score! One Day/ Marry Me Suite still gives me chills me every time.
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Mrs. Jones
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|| 2011-08-02 18:22:32
Expanded Score no FX
1. Hoist the Colours (1:29)
2. Singapore (2:16)
3. Sao Feng (2:51)
4. A Proposal (5:10)
5. East India Trading Company Attack (2:19)
6. Wills Treachery (1:34)
7. The Flying Dutchman (1:45)
8. Over the Edge, Over Again (5:04)
9. Davy Jones Command (1:57)
10. Sea of Stars (1:50)
11. Good and Lost (2:12)
12. Multiple Jacks (4:41)
13. At Wits End (1:47)
14. Which Way Ya Going? (0:25)
15. My Burden To Bare (0:51)
16. Souls At Sea (4:21)
17. Elizabeth & Feng (1:15)
18. Many Gifts (0:48)
19. Sao Feng's End (1:34)
20. Sao Feng's End (Alternate) (1:34)
21. Bootstrap (0:41)
22. Choosing a Side (4:13)
23. Calypso Mutinised (1:18)
24. Jones' Tale of Calypso (1:26)
25. Shipwreck Cove (0:53)
26. Shipwreck Cove (Alternate 1) (0:53)
27. Shipwreck Cove (Alternate 2) (0:54)
28. Meeting of the Pirates (1:09)
29. 9 Pieces of 8 (1:21)
30. Davy Jones & Calypso (3:46)
31. The Brethren Court/Cuttlefish (2:31)
32. What Say You? (0:37)
33. How's Mum? (0:46)
34. Parlay (2:10)
35. Parlay (Alternate) (2:14)
36. Multiple Jacks, Again (0:23)
37. Calypso (3:02)
38. What Shall We Die For? (2:03)
39. Peanut (0:46)
40. Maelstrom/Jack's Effects (1:19)
41. Mercer's End (1:21)
42. I Don't Think Now is the Best Time (5:49)
43. Part of the Ship, Part of the Crew (2:13)
44. Just Good Business (4:50)
45. One Day (4:01)
46. One Day (Alternate) (2:40)
47. Drink Up Me Hearties (4:31)
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Mr. Fate
2011-08-02 18:31:45
Oh, well uh...Hi there!
Hybrid Soldier
2011-08-02 18:55:14
We clearly have a roddent problem here !
Mr. Jones
2011-08-02 19:08:40
wtf? get out of here! I'm the only one with the score right now, you don't have crap .
2011-08-02 19:10:05
now I'm very confused... o.O
2011-08-02 19:14:52
This is all total BS
2011-08-02 19:27:58
dek tu le bluff >:(
2011-08-02 19:29:01
Ugh another troll. Move along guys nuthin to see here
2011-08-02 19:36:06
clearly Mrs. Jones is a troll... she is missing 'Up Is Down'
Mr. Fate
2011-08-02 19:36:12
I like how ya'll immediately call BS on a track list considering this is the first truly expanded At World's End track list that wasn't filled up with the suites from the Soundtrack Treasures Collection (not including what Mr. Jones posted earlier). Unlike all of you guys, I am a believer, and I believe this to be a legitimate track list. One may be reminded of the cynicism of those who posted track lists to PotC4 Demos, only to be disproved only a few weeks later. Come on, guys.
2011-08-02 19:50:08
2011-08-02 19:51:55
i believe the track listing MR. JONES posted.. i would love to have it... i just have nothing to offer him in return. :/
i was so lucky to have someone on youtube send me the potc4 demos... i honored his request not to share it & i have not shared it... its the 41 track one that im sure everyone has now
2011-08-02 21:03:01
I've been following this mess since the Pirates 4 forums. I'm telling you right now - its all BS.
There IS no POTC4 complete score, or Inception, or POTC 3, or whatever this person claims he has.
If this guy was honest about it, then there's only ONE way to prove it and he is NOT doing that. Therefore he's just trolling you all.
My tip to you sir, if you actually DO have all you say you have - just post them all on Youtube as proof. Yes, all of it. Quality will be crap but at least you'll prove it.
Mr. Fate
2011-08-02 21:10:37
What do you mean there are no complete scores for those movies? Of course there are complete scores--they exist...It's just that they are so far out of the public's reach that they might as well be completely made up. They are just kept locked up very tightly and it is difficult for them to get out. You all should be grateful to at least have a couple of totally legitimate track lists to hold onto until the time comes for this music to be become real.
2011-08-03 01:12:53
Like I said, it's one thing for news to come out that a compete score is forthcoming and it's another thing entirely for somebody to come in here, wave a tracklist around ("Let me just leave that there") that may or may not be real, and then flaunt that he has it.
So I say again, there IS no completed score available - wether professional or otherwise (unless someone rips it themselves, which they already have). You really should stop wasting people's time with this baiting. Ive been seeing this done many times already in the last few months and the behavior is getting old.
2011-08-03 02:13:19
@Shawn: Trust me, I'll know for sure tonight once Mr. Jones emails me the rest of the tracks. I am an optimistic guy, so I'm keeping my hopes up that what this guy is boasting is real, but I'll know for sure soon. As for this Mrs. Jones, I am unaware of any of her claims so I can't comment on the validity of the track list she originally posted.
2011-08-03 02:21:32
@Jimmer..Nothing personal, man..I got nothing against being optimistic. Good luck to ya....Hopefully he aint pulling your leg.
2011-08-03 02:30:06
I agree, I hope what your getting is the real deal!
2011-08-03 06:05:47
imo, tho...i think its a bunch of
cockadoodledoo booooolsheeeeeaaaaat.
2011-08-03 06:49:04
We'll just SEE about that, then... won't we???
2011-08-03 07:18:21
u mean well HEAR about that...
Mr. Fate
2011-08-06 16:47:34
I would like to call up this quote by Mr. Jones: "wtf? get out of here! I'm the only one with the score right now, you don't have crap." ...and say that this still holds.
Nobody trust any offers that Mr. Jones makes to you. He is a charlatan, a swindler. He never followed through on the music he was supposed to give Jimmer, as evidenced by the fact that nobody has any more music than what he posted on YouTube. He may very well have the music, but he does not want to share it with us lowly subjects.
2011-08-06 17:13:44
as far as Im concerned he's got nothing.
2011-08-06 18:20:09
You're calling the eight cues he uploaded to YouTube "nothing"? Sure, a bit of it is on the OST, but how do you account for the rest of it?
2011-08-06 19:13:46
Considering the number of rips done over the years, plus the OST, what that guy delivered was...well...small potatoes. They aren't cues I listen to on a regular basis, really. So I dont recognize the value. Dont forget Youtube audio is crappy as well.
2011-08-07 23:29:22
The number of rips done over the years? There's one on Le Blog de Chief Dundee, and there's one on the Shrine. All other 'expanded' versions of the score are just rearrangements of the OST and/or use the Soundtrack Treasures Colletion suites. Okay, there's a buttload of not-that-great DVD rips all over YouTube as well. If you don't listen to those cues on a regular basis, what cues do you listen to?
And calling the quality crappy doesn't mean anything--it's YouTube. Listen to the music and tell me if it has SFX in it. No? Then it is already better than anything already available.
2011-08-08 01:18:56
Those tracks dont signify much. I've heard prior rips (both online and off) where those tracks dont have any sfx at all...if not very minimal. The guy shouldve posted all of it on Youtube to get the best impression. The latter half of the score is where the SFX is most intrusive, anyway.
Like i said those tracks posted arent tracks i listen to anyway, so they mean nothing to me.
2011-08-08 01:22:31
Oh and I forgot to point out that this guy mr.jones may have posted those cues, but based on his behavior after the fact (and his scamming a person on here) I can't say I'd believe his claims anyway, nor would I want to share with him. I mean, would YOU?
2011-09-05 05:28:24
I got this now and it's pretty legit guys. No SFX at all. It's all clean!!
2011-09-05 12:49:12
Do you have this 47-Track Version or the 45-Track one, that leaked last week?
Mr. Fate
2011-09-05 15:08:41
I'm pretty sure he's just talking about the slightly different 45-track version. I don't think anybody other than "Mrs. Jones" has this version, yet. It looks like it has a lot of tracks in common though.
2011-09-05 21:21:40
I have the 45 track expanded score. It's all legit, no sfx at all.
Mr. Fate
2011-09-05 23:05:17
FALSE! I guarantee you that your track 10 has DVD audio, and thus SFX, in its first 15 or so seconds. The 45-track score is not *completely* SFX-free.
Everything else, though is, as you say, "legit"--aside from the tracks that were borrowed straight from the OST. Certainly, by now, everybody ought to have the 45-track version, so John, you don't have anything special.
2011-09-06 01:10:56
actually mine doesn't at all. I've listened to it over and over again and didn't hear any sfx whatsoever. So I don't know wut your talking about. All my tracks are clean, so idk what ur talking about. I've listened to all of it and they're all cleann.
Mr. Fate
2011-09-06 02:36:02
I really don't like people who use words like "wut" and "ur".
I just find it weird that you would have the 45-track version that is available to everybody else--yet the only difference is that your track 10 does not have SFX in it. Track 10 is titled "Davy Jones Commanded", is it not? It's length should be in the ballpark of around 2:16? So, if there are not SFX, is the organ part louder than the music box part? Or are their levels the same as they are on the OST track that this is similar to?
Mr. Fate
2011-09-06 04:01:35
I suppose I should have said, "I don't like it *when* people use internet shorthand like that." Didn't mean to sound too rude.
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01-Hoist The Colours
03-At Wit's End
04-Multiple Jacks
05-I See Dead People In Boats
06-Up Is Down
07-Marry Me
08-Lord Cutler Beckett
09-The Empress
10-Part of The Ship, Part of The Crew
11-The Brethren Court
12-The Heart of Davy Jones
15-Never Shall We Die
16-Into The Maelstrom
17-The Battle
18-It's Just Good Business
19-One Day
20-Drink Up Me Hearties
21-End Credits
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2011-09-15 23:23:57
Same goes with this. Not a legit expanded, people. DVD audio...
Mr. Fate
2011-09-15 23:50:13
Besides, we already have something WAY better than this piece-of-junk, falsely expanded score. None of this music even originated from DVD menus. It's all just the OST rearranged with the Soundtrack Treasures Collection suites thrown in. It might not even have any of the stuff from Magic Box Music.
2011-09-15 23:58:51
Mr. Fate, you're right. The false Dead Man's Chest was made from DVD, this one using the SOundtrack Treasures Collection. It's pissing me off that these dumbass people keep doing this
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|| 2011-08-24 07:10:24
Is there a recording sesions leak for all three POTC scores as well? Those scores are gold, those will be another GREAT thing to have one day!!!!
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2011-08-25 00:28:38
NO. Besides, what leaked was not the recording sessions for PotC4. They were merely the demos of tracks that would eventually get recorded with a real orchestra. Don't expect complete scores to ANY of the Pirates scores any time soon.
2011-08-25 05:39:55
thats saying alot -__-
2011-08-25 23:18:00
What? You're right, it is saying a lot. Consider how long its been since the other movies came out. Have you ever even heard the slightest whisper about the possible existence of any complete Pirates score? I sure as hell have not.
2011-08-25 23:52:10
There are no complete scores. ONly DVD rips,
Mr. Fate
2011-08-26 00:30:16
Well, Kabal, that isn't entirely true. There are complete scores out there. They just are not openly available. DVD rips are the best thing around right now. See Mrs. Jones' track list here or Mr. Jones' track list posted on the PotC4 page (as well as YouTube samples) for examples of what's out there somewhere.
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|| 2011-08-08 01:20:50
Mrs.Jones must be the Joker of this site because she have created CHAOS :P
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2011-08-08 01:25:12
Yah. Whats also funny is this guy Mr Jones could be ANYBODY either on here, or even on the Shrine or elsewhere under a different name. Fancy that, huh?
2011-08-08 01:27:39
if someone starts pushing a rare score out there, you might wanna start checking them out....Just in case. Im just saying.
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2011-08-08 05:05:49
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can´t waaaaaait..You the MAN!!!!!
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|| 2011-03-13 00:00:00
Anyone got any info on the 2CD expanded score of this, without SFX? Its out there.
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The Dimensioner
2011-05-07 02:35:56
Pffft...2CD expanded score! I've heard from someone who knows some people that the real complete score is four CDs long.
2011-05-07 06:18:29
Maybe so, but thats likely to be recording sessions. Expanded doesnt necessarily mean complete, you know.
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Sundance, Kaleigh, Latrice, Laneta GTFO your all the same annoying person >:(
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Replies: 0 || 2011-04-17 00:00:00
Seriously, who the f is this troll. It's annoying. Look at all the posts he's left at random Scores about "great answers"
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Replies: 0 || 2011-02-23 00:00:00
News from Pirates 4 score! (from the "Rodrigo y Gabriela" website)
"Rodrigo Y Gabriela are proud and excited to announce a new musical venture. After months of hints and rumours they can now confirm that one of the summer's most highly anticipated blockbuster movies, "Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides" will features original music by Academy Award-winning composer Hans Zimmer and Rod and Gab.
The score for Pirates of the Caribbean 4 brings together one of the most respected and sought-after composers (an Academy Award winner with a further eight additional Oscar nominations for films such as Gladiator, Inception, The Dark Knight, Batman Begins to name but a few) and the premier guitar playing duo in the world – Rodrigo Y Gabriela.
You will be able to hear the fruits of their labours when Walt Disney Records release the soundtrack for Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides on May 17, 2011."
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Replies: 0 || 2011-01-30 00:00:00
Hi Hybrid,
I want to know more about the music from pirates of caribbean 3.
Are you here? I want to know for example what Zimmer did in At witt's end and I don't think now is the best time?
Also if all the suites from the unrealeased albums are by Himself alone.
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The Dimensioner
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@Hybrid, I was thinking of doing an analysis of the scores, but I would be interested in seeing yours. How can that be achieved?
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A bone scan is a test that detects areas of increased or decreased bone activity. These may indicate bone injury or disease. Radioactive isotopes and tracer chemicals are used to highlight problem areas.
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Reasons for test
The test is done to detect an abnormal process involving your bone, including the following:
- Stress injuries, such asstress fractureand shin splints
- Infection, such as osteomyelitis
- Arthritis
- Bone tumors
- Cancer spreading to the bones
- Trauma
- Metabolic disorders, such as Paget disease
- Nutritional disorders that can affect bones, like low vitamin D levels, such as rickets
- Death of an area of bone tissues due to blocked circulation, such as avascular necrosis
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Possible Complications
Complications are rare, but no procedure is completely risk free. If you are planning to have a bone scan, your doctor will review a list of possible complications, which may include:
- Allergic reaction to the injected material
- Infection
Some people worry about the use of radioactive material in a bone scan. The amount of radioactivity is small, though larger than you would receive from common x-ray procedures, like a chest x-ray or dental x-ray. The radioactive material is eliminated from the body within 2-3 days.
Be sure to discuss these risks with your doctor before the test.
What to Expect
Prior to Test
Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or breastfeeding. You may need to discard breast milk for several days after a bone scan.
Tell your doctor if you have recently had anything that contains barium, such as contrast dye or bismuth.
Three hours before the scan, you will receive an injection of radioactive tracer chemicals. You should drink plenty of fluids between the time of the injection and the scan. You will also be asked to empty your bladder before the scan.
Description of the Test
You will lie on your back on an imaging table. A camera above and below the table will slowly scan you. You may be asked to move into various positions as the scan is done. It is important to lie still when not told to move. The camera will be able to detect small amounts of radioactivity in the injected material. This will allow the doctor to see areas where there may be bone injury or disease.
After Test
The injection site will be checked for redness and swelling.
How Long Will It Take?
You will be in the scanner for 20-60 minutes. Sometimes another scan is done after 24 hours.
Will It Hurt?
No. The test is painless, except for the mild discomfort of the injection.
If your bone tissue is healthy, your scan will show that the chemical has spread evenly to all of your bones. If there is an area of disease, darker or lighter areas (hot or cold spots) will be seen on the scan. These will show the areas with abnormally active bone breakdown or repair.
Call Your Doctor
Call your doctor if you have questions about the test, your condition, or your test results.
In case of an emergency, call for emergency medical services right away.
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Picture: James Blunt Barbarella re-opens its doors with a bang! Iconic Italian restaurant and supper club, Barbarella, re-opened its door after closing for a...
Singer James Blunt has turned restaurateur by launching a new eaterie at a top ski resort in Switzerland.
The You're Beautiful hitmaker has co-founded La Vache, which officially opened its doors on Saturday (08Dec12) in Verbier.
Blunt, who has a house in the area and spends the winter months at the resort, will stay away from cooking duties but has a pizza named in his honour.
The singer admits he fell in love with the European country after spending Christmas in Switzerland as a child.
He says, "Since there was snow, gifts, intimate celebrations with the family - it was simply the most wonderful time of the year. Everytime I have this feeling I think of Switzerland. It is a magical feeling. It has long been my dream to (have) a panoramic restaurant. I love skiing and good food."


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WASHINGTON -- Watching House Republicans' latest complaint about Obamacare brings to mind the joke Woody Allen used to open "Annie Hall," about two elderly women at a Catskills resort.
"Boy, the food at this place is really terrible," says one.
"Yeah, I know," says the other. "And such small portions."
Last week, the administration announced it was delaying by a year the implementation of one of Obamacare's provisions, the requirement that large employers provide health insurance. You'd think the opposition party, which has spent four years denouncing the health care reforms, would be delighted by the reprieve. But on Wednesday, Republicans on the House Ways and Means Committee held a hearing to condemn the administration -- for incomplete enforcement of the law they hate.
"This committee intends to get an explanation," proclaimed Rep. Kevin Brady, R-Texas, chairman of the subcommittee holding the hearing. "This committee has serious questions about how and why this alarming decision was made and the effect that delaying this key provision will have on other provisions of the law."
It was kind of the chairman to show such thoughtful concern for a law he wants repealed. And if Brady saw the delay as "alarming," others were apoplectic. "Boy, I'll tell you," Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Texas, said, beginning his remarks. "I hate to see a dictatorship come into this country, but it sure looks like that's what's happening with health care."
"We see this as definitely something that leans toward socialism," proclaimed Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif.
President Obama was called a dictator and a socialist for passing Obamacare. Now he's a dictator and a socialist for postponing it? "The irony of objecting to the delay of a program you've been trying to stop is no doubt lost on this room," observed Rep. Jim McDermott of Washington, the ranking Democrat on the subcommittee.
It's a safe bet that Republicans aren't really concerned about the delay, which the administration said last week that it had granted at the request of employers and which was applauded by business groups. Rather, Republicans used the delay as a chance to make the case, yet again, that the entire health care law should be ditched. They are planning to vote soon on repealing the law -- for the 38th time, give or take.
"This law is literally just unraveling before our eyes," judged Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., the former vice-presidential candidate. "I don't know how you can conclude that this is not a total fiasco." In an extended cobbler's metaphor, he said Democrats wrote the law "on Christmas Eve and shoehorned that into law, which is what we have today, and so we see all these shoes dropping."
Chairman Brady revealed his motives when he used his opening statement to cite polling on the law's unpopularity. "Clearly, the rollout of Obamacare is in disarray," he exulted.
This unqualified opposition is counterproductive for House Republicans. On health care, as on immigration, their approach amounts to a search-and-destroy mission. They could work with Democrats to remove problematic pieces in the health care law, and they could compromise with Democrats on legislation that would secure the borders. But instead they are devoted to shutting down both.
Rep. Ron Kind, D-Wis., made the point when he asked the four witnesses called by the Republicans whether Obamacare should be fixed or repealed. The replies:
"Repealing and replacing."
"Repealing and replacing."
"Repeal and replace."
"Repeal it."
"The major obstacle that the Affordable Care Act faces today is there's so much opposition for political reasons alone to see that this thing fail, and not whether this is going to help small businesses or help Americans throughout the country," Kind said. "And that's the real tragedy with these type of hearings."
Replied Rep. Peter Roskam, R-Ill, "Do we want to repeal this? You bet your life. Caught red-handed." Roskam rejected the idea "that somehow a desire to see something fail is somehow unjust."
But Republicans don't have much of a viable alternative. House Majority Leader Eric Cantor touted a bill this spring to help people with pre-existing health problems get insurance, but conservative opposition forced him to pull the bill from the floor.
In the case of the "employer mandate," even a number of liberals agree that it's a bad policy. Republicans could probably find support for repealing that provision, if they weren't hell-bent on repealing the whole law.
But it's so much more cathartic to call a hearing, assume a posture of umbrage, and use words such as "calamity" and "fiscal time bomb," and "socialism" and "dictatorship."
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JoS Senior A-Ball Correspondent SoSock filed this report:
6.2 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 7 K, 1 HBPCool fact: 1918 Red Sox World Series hero George Whiteman managed the Winston-Salem Twins in the 1929 Piedmont League.
He got the Win, final score 7-2. Threw 89 pitches total, although our paper doesn't separate strikes [Globe says 61]. The one run came in the 1st. [SoSock was unsure if the run was unearned; the short Globe report says it was, but the paper links to the box score, which has it as an earned run.]
His stuff was good. He threw in the 88-92 mph range with the fastball all night. But the offspeed was what he was obviously concentrating on, and it was breaking wickedly as the game went on. All of the Ks came after the 1st two innings. Two of the three hits were in the 1st and 2nd innings. Typical Dice. In his last inning he struck one out, gave up his 3rd hit, then struck out the last guy he faced before leaving to as big an ovation as the paltry 3,000 people there could muster.
Unofficial stuff - It was extremely cool seeing him up close like that. We were right up against the dugout, and they're not huge dugouts. So every time he came in after an inning he was passing about eight feet in front of us. He nodded to the cheering crowd every time, but was all business. As he left after 6.2, he took the ball with him and threw it into the crowd. He stuck around for the rest of that inning and the top of the next before walking down the 3rd baseline between the top and bottom half.
He stopped to chat with a couple of the Salem pitchers who were warming up "in the pen". The pen at Ernie Shore is just two mounds in foul territory between the baseline and the seats. There has to be a "guard" protecting the catchers' backs just like in our LL games. Then he disappeared around the clubhouse, following the little footpath beside and behind it to the maintenance area behind, where I'm sure there was a comfortable ride waiting beside the big bus.
Much like when I saw him in Baltimore a couple of years ago, there was more Red Sox paraphernalia than there was Dash [Winston-Salem Dash, the home team]. Of course, even the home town fans here don't often buy the stuff. I myself have a ton of the old Warthogs stuff [the team's name from 1995 to 2008], but have yet to warm up to the new name and haven't bought a thing. Regardless, the cheers were decidedly in favor of the visitors. All in all - a memorable experience!


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Welcome to Watch List, where we identify five things on TV to watch while you stay at home and polish your Hummel figurine collection. LET'S GO!
CAVS VS. HEAT – 8:00PM (TNT) The moment Cleveland fans have been savoring ever since LeBron James publicly dumped them has at last arrived. The Cavaliers players may as well not even take the court, because tonight is going to be all about Cleveland fans openly jeering and mocking the man who once seemed to promise them salvation. Now, there's already some speculation as to whether or not some nutjob fan will do something irrational, even possibly illegal, during this game. Many people will tell you they hope that doesn't happen. Not me. I'm watching BECAUSE I want to see if some crazy spurned Cavs fan decides to run up to LeBron and throw a gallon of red paint on him. That would be crazy awesome. ANTICIPATION: RANCOR!
THE KENNEDY DETAIL – 9:00PM (Discovery) This two-hour special profiles the Secret Service detail assigned to John F. Kennedy. The agents, in their own words, give their version of the day Kennedy was murdered in Dallas. I assume a few "my bad"s will be uttered. ANTICIPATION: GRASSY KNOLL!
THE SANTA SUIT – 8:00PM (Hallmark) Kevin Sorbo (HERCULES! HERCULES! clapclapclap) stars in this made-for-TV holiday movie about a ruthless toy company CEO who changes his ways after putting on a magic Santa suit and being transformed into a Santa lookalike. It's just like "Shallow Hal," only people are nicer to the fat person this go round. Having a sack full of toys will do that for you. ANTICIPATION: WEEPY!
BRAD MELTZER'S DECODED – 10:00PM (History) New show! Brad Meltzer (I don't know who that is) hosts this show that explores secret symbols of the world and tries to uncover the conspiracies behind them. Oooh! Dan Brown is taking notes! First up tonight: The White House. Did you know Freemasons have our President hypnotized? 100% true. ANTICIPATION: SEEECRETS!
IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA – 10:00PM (FX) Phillies superstars Chase Utley and Ryan Howard guest star. Do not expect LeBron to do the same for "Hot In Cleveland". ANTICIPATION: HIGH!
Thursday Watch List: LeBron Faces The Music
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LAKE VILLA, Ill. (Gray News) – Have you "herd" the news?
Scottish Highland cows were running amuck in northern Illinois this week.
Well, not really running. Let's call it casually grazing around Lake County, about 50 miles north-northwest of Chicago.
A pair of Lake County Sheriff's deputies were charged with keeping the two cuddly-looking bulls in line as they roamed along Route 59.
"Do you know who these Scottish Highland Cows belong to?" the sheriff's office posted on Facebook. "If you know who they belong to or can help us detain them please contact LCSO!"
The deputies made the best of it, following their bovine buddies down highways and into neighborhoods.
Try as they might, they couldn't always "steer" them in the right direction.
In the midst of it all, there was time for a quick selfie with the cows.
But soon enough, the Highlanders were in "cowstody."
"The bulls have been officially reunited with their owner," the sheriff's office said. "The cows told us it was some 'bull' that we wouldn't let them run down Rte 59!! We told them they were moooooving too slow!"
It must have been a "miscowculation." Lesson learned.
Next time they'll have to hoof it a bit faster.
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Honeyed Cashews with Kosher Salt
Roasted in the oven with a coating of honey–brown sugar syrup, then tossed with flaky kosher salt for a tasty Thanksgiving snack.
A careful balance of salty and sweet, crisp and chewy, these nuts are the perfect accompaniment for cocktail hour. You start with raw, untoasted cashews, toss them with oil and set aside. Then you make a syrup with brown sugar, a little water, and honey.... Read More
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Honda Africa Twin is the Jaw-dropping 1000cc commuter that launched with the expectations at peak. This 1000cc commuter was first made its stance in 2015 EICMA motor show held at Milan. At that time, the Honda Africa Twin mesmerized all the footfalls by its aesthetic looks and good aerodynamics structure. Let's get deeper into this. … Read moreHonda Africa Twin : Review


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Monday, August 10, 2009
International Master Justin Sarkar's "Perfect Game"
Sarkar is a highly talented player but he has traversed a very challenging path to attain the IM title and you can learn about some of the details of his struggle with autism by clicking on the links in the previous paragraph. I spoke with Sarkar several times in the past few days at the 110th U.S. Open Chess Tournament. Sarkar said that originally he had not planned to play in the U.S. Open but then at the last moment he decided to jump into the fray. After taking byes for the first three rounds and reeling off five straight wins Sarkar needed just one more victory to tie for first place and earn a spot in the 2010 U.S. Championship. Sarkar is particularly proud of his eighth round triumph over Robert O'Donnell, a strong Expert from Michigan who for many years held a National Master level rating. Sarkar is soft spoken and modest about his achievements, so when he earnestly told me that he had played a "perfect game" versus O'Donnell and then lamented that most people don't understand how difficult it is to play a perfect game of chess I knew that I had to see the moves for myself:
IM Justin Sarkar - Robert O'Donnell [E32]
U.S. Open 8/8/09 (8)
1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Qc2 0-0 5.e4 Bxc3+!? 5...d5 6.e5 Ne4 is the normal continuation. 6.bxc3 White has a slight edge now; he has obtained a massive pawn center without having to spend a tempo by playing a3. 6...d6 7.e5 dxe5 8.dxe5 Nfd7 9.Nf3 Nc6 10.Ba3 In the only other game I could find in this line, Sergey Beavenets defeated Viacheslav Ragozin, a famous Grandmaster who is renowned for his theoretical knowledge and who helped train World Champion Mikhail Botvinnik:
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nc3 Bb4 4. Qc2 Nc6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. e4 Bxc3+ 7. bxc3 d6 8.e5 dxe5 9. dxe5 Nd7 10. Ba3 Ne7 11. Rd1 h6 12. Qe4 Re8 13. Bd3 Nf8 14. O-O Rb8 15. Qg4 Bd7 16. Bc1 Nf5 17. Qh3 Ng6 18. Be4 Qe7 19. g4 Ba4 20. gxf5 exf5 21.Qxf5 Bxd1 22. Rxd1 Qe6 23. Qxe6 Rxe6 24. Rd7 Nxe5 25. Nxe5 Rxe5 26. f3 Rbe8 27.Rxc7 f5 28. Bd5+ Kh8 29. Bf4 Re1+ 30. Kg2 R8e2+ 31. Kh3 g5 32. Bd6 Rg1 33. Re7Rxe7 34. Bxe7 b6 35. c5 bxc5 36. Bxc5 Rd1 37. c4 a6 38. Bb7 Rd3 39. a4 1-0 (1935 Soviet Championship).
10...Ndxe5 11.Nxe5 Nxe5 12.Rd1 Qh4 13.Rd4 Qf6 14.Bxf8 Kxf8 15.Qxh7 Ng6 16.h4 e5 17.Rd2 e4 18.h5 Qxc3 19.hxg6 Qc1+ 20.Ke2 Qxc4+ 21.Kd1 Bg4+ 22.f3 Qa4+ 23.Ke1 e3 24.Rd3 Qb4+ 25.Ke2 Qb2+ 26.Kxe3 Re8+ 27.Kf4 Qe5+ 28.Kxg4 Qe6+ 29.Kg3 Qe5+ 30.f4 1-0
Note how Sarkar eschewed taking the f8 Rook on move 13 and instead gained a tempo by activating his Rook while harassing O'Donnell's Queen. O'Donnell could have offered stronger resistance at certain points but Sarkar is understandably pleased with this game because of how relentlessly and logically he played after O'Donnell's slight inaccuracy on move five; O'Donnell's rating places him above the 97th percentile of U.S. players, so defeating a player of that caliber is not nearly as easy as Sarkar made it seem to be.
Grandmaster Jesse Kraai beat Sarkar in the last round, thereby sharing first place with five others and dropping Sarkar to a tie for 18th place. Kraai's rating had plateaued between 2400 and 2500 for about eight years before recently jumping to nearly 2600. Kraai has described how he attained the Grandmaster title at a relatively late age (the 37 year old achieved that goal two years ago, but most GMs reach that level in their teens or twenties) by virtue of hard work and I have much respect for anyone who plays chess that well because I know how difficult it is to do that. However, I also sympathize with Sarkar's quite understandable feeling that his accomplishments in the face of adversity have not received their just due; in the Hanken article cited above, Sarkar notes that his great performance in the 2003 U.S. Championship did not attract much attention and on Sunday he told me that he had hoped to jump start his quest for the Grandmaster title by finishing the U.S. Open on a strong note. Sarkar's living situation and his state of mind make it difficult for him to study and prepare the way that most top flight players do, so he relies heavily on natural talent, trusting his instincts to help him figure things out over the board (as opposed to making the in depth pre-game preparation that is de rigueur at the IM and GM level). Sarkar has defeated many top GMs and certainly has the ability to attain that coveted title; hopefully he will produce more "perfect games" en route to achieving that goal.
1/9/10 Addendum:
IM Sarkar recently emailed me some further insights about his "perfect game" and I am happy to share his perspective with my readers; he feels that it is very important to understand that he not only played this game very accurately but that he did so very quickly. IM Sarkar writes, "I didn't exactly blitz out the game, though I was comfortably within the 3 minutes a move avg and like I said was even up over an hour on the clock. My 16th move (h4) was important to find and recognize over the board as the best plan in the position. I took one of my longer thinks on move 24 (Rd3) as I had a nearly equally promising continuation. The computer at first seemed liked the other, then with more time to think liked my move even better. Note that it's a bit scary, as it involves 'almost getting mated'. It's good I was able to accurately calculate this with confidence, even though I saw another 'less scary' way that I also felt was most certainly winning. And in general, when he gave me the knight on g6 for an attempted perpetual check or attack on my king, I had to accurately foresee the best way out of the series of checks."
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I just want to let you know that I enjoy your posts on chess as much as on other topics. I wouldn't want you to think, for lack of comments, that your work in this area is for naught. Most people are - or, at least, it seems that they are - more interested in otiose GOAT *discussions* than in talking about specifics, say, about variations on the Indian.
I distinctly remember reading 'Wilt and Bobby' for the first time and saying "Wow!". And that dreary episode with the famous master (IM? GM?) in NO during the all-star weekend was especially poignant in showing how unfair the world can be at times.
In any case, thanks for the piece and the very interesting links. Please do try to write more often on chess.
P.S. I am, almost, envious of your ELO. How the hell can you find time to keep your chops sharp given your, at least to me, mind-blowing productivity as a (sports) writer?
- Monday, August 17, 2009 2:37:00 PM
- David Friedman said...
Thank you for your kind words. I fully understand that articles about chess are not likely to "move the needle" in terms of generating a lot of post views but I write them anyway because I think that they are important and interesting.
I thought that the Wilt/Bobby story was exceptional not only from an imaginative standpoint but because I used my knowledge about Wilt, Bobby and Dick Schaap to really capture their "voices." The fact that so many people thought that the story was true--echoing "War of the Worlds"--would seem to confirm that I succeeded in that regard, though the story did not receive a huge amount of mainstream attention (Susan Polgar read it and passed it along to her ESPN colleague Jeremy Schaap--Dick's son--but I never heard anything from Jeremy).
The "dreary story" that you referenced was about my attempt to play National Master (not IM or GM) Jude Acers when I was in New Orleans for NBA All-Star Weekend. He was quite rude and belligerent but that's life--I guess.
As for my ELO rating, at the moment I am actually sitting more than half a class level below my peak, though my quick rating (for games contested in 60 minutes or less) has been steadily hovering in the 2100 area. Whether or not a rating is high is subjective--a club player thinks a 2100 rating is high, while a GM thinks that even 2300s are patzers (weak players). Based on the fact that some of my best results this year have come during periods when I deliberately cut back on my writing/researching to focus on tournament preparation, I strongly believe that whether my rating is considered high or low that it certainly would be higher if I were able to devote more of my time/energy to chess--and that is a theory that I have been testing in recent months, resulting in my record seventh Dayton Chess Club Championship with a 5/6 score (two draws against higher rated players) and a strong 6/9 performance in the U.S. Open, though some decidedly mediocre results have been sprinkled in between those events as well.
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I am over the moon thrilled today to share with you a little sneak peek of my new book, A Year of Pies: A Seasonal Tour of Home Baked Pies (Lark Crafts, 2012). The idea for this book was presented to me when Huxley was only 6 weeks old. I started writing it when he was 3 months, turned in the manuscript when he was 9, polished off the last of the photo shoots when he was 13 months, and now, have a real world, in-my-hands copy to show you today, when he's just over 1 1/2 years old. Clearly, the growth of this book paralleled my growth as a mother and my son's growth from newborn to infant to toddler.
And what an amazing journey it has been. This book is such a joy to me. Not only does it cook as I cook, through the calender year, but in it you'll also find contributing recipes from 8 of my favorite blogging buddies, including Beatrice Peltre, Aran Goyoaga, Amanda Soule, Jenna Woginrich, Kate Payne, Tim Mazurek, Jessie Oleson, and Tricia Martin. There are sweet and savory pies. There are hand pies and galettes. There are lattice-top and double crust and freezer and fridge pies. There's truly something for everyone, including 3 gluten-free offerings. The book publishes August 7th, but is available for now pre-order (and it's discounted some kind of crazy on Amazon!).
I can't wait to share more with you closer to the publication date. For the time being, though, know that this book was made with lots of love, lots of baby giggles and shenanigans underfoot (and oftentimes, on hip, as in, he was on my hip while I was prepping pastry dough or mixing fruit with sugar in the mixing bowl), and lots and lots of butter. I hope that that love pours off the book's pages and into your home, a little slice of light and laughter and bliss, from me, to you.
Almost forgot, I've got two more bits of pie-inspired writing for you! On Verve, I'm chatting about how pies have shaped my life and on Mrs. Wages, I've got two berry-centric recipes up. Enjoy!


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Sikorsky XR-5
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This object is not on display at the National Air and Space Museum. It is either on loan or in storage.
Collection Item Summary:
Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation designed the XR-5 in 1942 for the U. S. Army Air Forces. This two-seat helicopter could lift more than three times the maximum payload capacity of the Sikorsky R-4 helicopter. The Royal Navy enthusiastically endorsed the design as an anti-submarine patrol aircraft that could accompany and protect convoys crossing the Atlantic. However, manufacturing delays prevented any production R-5 aircraft from entering service before the end of World War II.
Rotor Diameter: 14.63 m (48 ft)
Length: 13.71 m (44 ft 11.5 in)
Height: 3.96 m (13 ft)
Weight: Empty, 1,656 kg (3,650 lb)
Gross, 2,223 kg (4,900 lb)
Engine: Pratt and Whitney R-985-AN-5, 450 hp
Manufacturer: Sikorsky Aircraft, Division of United Aircraft
Corporation, Bridgeport, Connecticut
Transferred from the U.S. Air Force
Collection Item Long Description:
By the end of World War II, Igor Sikorsky had established himself as a leading innovator in helicopter design. The XR-5 came about as a direct result of lessons learned from Sikorsky's development of the R-4, America's first production helicopter. The XR-5 represents another major step in the maturation of the helicopter into a truly capable and reliable category of aircraft. While the R-4, and its developmental cousin, the R-6, saw operational service in World War II, they were underpowered, difficult to fly, and required excessive maintenance, which led to a limited service life. The production R-5s and their civilian counterpart, the S-51, overcame these difficulties and played an important role in establishing the helicopter as an indispensable aircraft for military and civilian operators.
The development of the XR-5 officially began when the British Air Commission placed an order for two "large" (compared to the diminutive XR-4) prototype Vought-Sikorsky helicopters on April 29, 1942. The British had been surprised by the good performance of the XR-4 helicopter. At this time, German U-boat wolfpacks remained a considerable threat to the lifeline of trans-Atlantic convoys that sustained Great Britain. The convoys were particularly vulnerable in mid-Atlantic, beyond the range of shore-based anti-submarine patrol aircraft. There were also very few aircraft carriers available to sail with the convoys and provide air cover. A helicopter that could carry bombs or depth charges and operate from the decks of escort vessels or even merchant ships appeared to offer an ideal solution to the U-boat problem.
The U. S. Army Air Forces (AAF) caught on to the possibilities of an upgraded XR-4 and quickly submitted a request on May 8, 1942, for an upgraded design, a "workhorse" helicopter with a useful load of over 495 kg (1,100 lb). The request stated, "it is urgently desired to develop a helicopter with greater useful load, endurance, speed, service ceiling, which would have greater utility than the XR-4." Any increase in any aspect of the XR-4's performance would be greeted with fanfare because the helicopter had almost no useful load once the pilot was on board. On May 27, the Air Material Command issued Technical Instruction 1124. This order released funds for the construction of four helicopters of the "workhorse" type, designated XR-5. The requirements of the AAF and the British were similar enough that a single design could probably fulfill both needs. Two of the four machines described in TI 1124 were earmarked for Britain to be paid for using Lend-Lease funds.
The design process for the XR-5 was already well under way by the time TI 1124 was issued. More than six months earlier, Igor Sikorsky had anticipated a military request for a purpose-built observation helicopter. The Platt-LePage XR-1 had already won the AAF contract for development of an observation helicopter, but Sikorsky knew it would never become a practical service machine. Well ahead of actual events, he launched a program to develop a more practical design called the VS-327 (V for Vought and S for Sikorsky. Vought, like Sikorsky, was one of several companies owned by the holding company United Aircraft). Development began on September 26, 1941, and William E. Hunt was named project manager. When the Technical Instruction for the XR-5 was issued, the VS-327 handily met the requirements.
Work on the design progressed quickly, but when construction began on the first prototype, the pace slowed. As chief designer, Igor Sikorsky had a pivotal role to play but the demands of other projects distracted him. There was also considerable difficulty obtaining certain strategic materials such as aluminum to build the helicopter. The AAF considered helicopters interesting and promising, but gave conventional warplanes a higher priority. Sikorsky had to build certain sections of the helicopter, such as the tailcone and fuselage panels, from non-strategic materials, such as wood. This increased the aircraft's weight, reduced structural integrity, and delayed the project. Aluminum versions replaced these wooden components when the predicted shortages failed to materialize. The Pratt & Whitney R-985 engine chosen for the XR-5 was also a source of trouble. At that time, this power plant was used in Vought's OS2U Kingfisher naval floatplane. To speed construction, Sikorsky retained the Kingfisher engine mount arrangement in the XR-5 but during ground runs, the helicopter overheated badly. A fan was needed to force more cooling air through the engine compartment, but there was not enough space to install it within the Kingfisher engine mount. Revising the mount and adding the fan further delayed the program.
Sikorsky was aware that the box-top fuselage of the XR-4 obstructed airflow from the main rotor and reduced the rotor's lifting capacity. He also knew that visibility out of this earlier design could be much improved and these two design goals drove the overall layout of the XR-5. The fuselage was more streamlined and slimmer in profile, and nearly the entire nose of the helicopter was covered in Plexiglas windows. The observer occupied the front seat of this "fishbowl," while the pilot occupied the seat directly behind him. The XR-4 used a tricycle undercarriage supplemented by a strut and wheel extending attached beneath the rear fuselage to prevent the tail rotor from striking the ground during flight-testing. Sikorsky dispensed with this wheel and strut on the production models.
Each of the three rotor blades resembled the fixed-wing of a conventional airplane. A laminated wooden spar supported wooden ribs and the whole assembly was covered with fabric. These blades were difficult to build, hard to balance, and easily damaged by rain. Sikorsky replaced the wooden spars with steel tubes in production versions of the XR-5 and this resulted in safer, more durable blades. However, he had to retain the fabric covering. It was not yet possible to build a rotor blade skinned with metal that was also flexible enough to flap and flex in flight.
Company chief test pilot Les Morris carried out the first flight of the XR-5 (s/n 43-28236) on August 18, 1943. Following adjustments to blade tracking and lead-lag dampers, flights soon exceeded 30 minutes. On September 13, the XR-5 lifted a pilot, observer, and eight passengers perched on the landing gear strut fairings, and exceeded the military useful load requirement by 270 kg (600 lb). Testing progressed well until October 12. With Sikorsky's nephew, Jimmy Viner, at the controls, the tail rotor failed at an altitude of 23 m (75 ft). Viner crash-landed and neither he, nor his observer were injured, but the aircraft suffered significant damage. Production on the next XR-5 (s/n 43-28237) was quickly stepped up and test flying resumed the last week of November 1943.
AAF leaders authorized series production of the XR-5 on March 24, 1943, to commence whenever the final development phase of the XR-5 was complete. This contract specified a production run of 250 aircraft, 100 of them earmarked for Great Britain. The contract soon increased by 150 helicopters for the AAF, and the Navy ordered 50 more. The development process had continued at a steady but relatively slow pace, as much of Sikorsky's effort was focused on series production of the R-4 and R-6. These helicopters had met their contract requirements while the XR-5 was still struggling through the test program. Great Britain cancelled two XR-5s on March 25, 1944, because aircraft carriers and long-range patrol aircraft had filled the antisubmarine role originally envisioned for the R-5. The AAF quickly moved to take over this order, as Lt. Col. Frank Gregory, head of the AAF helicopter program, remained enthusiastic about XR-5. He considered it more advanced than any other American helicopter developed up to that time. Flight tests began on the fifth and final XR-5 at the Sikorsky plant in Bridgeport, CT, on January 17, 1944. The AAF accepted this aircraft and transferred it to Wright Field for further development on September 30, 1944.
That this dawn of a new technological era remained perilous for both man and machine is graphically illustrated by the fate of the XR-5s. The third (s/n 43-28238) was destroyed on November 4, 1944. The fabric covering one of the rotor blades tore loose and in the ensuing crash, the helicopter rolled over. The second XR-5 suffered a fatal crash at Gainesville, Florida, on December 2, 1944, when welds in one of the steel collars holding the blades to the rotor mast failed. As a result, a different welding technique was adopted on the assembly line. The first XR-5 suffered an engine failure while flying to a war bond rally in Nebraska. The pilot crash-landed but the airframe was too damaged to repair it was scavenged for spare parts. The AAF continued to test the last XR-5 (s/n 43-47954) until 1946, when the service handed the helicopter over to the National Air Museum (later the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum).
By March 29, 1945, the AAF declared the XR-5 development program complete and service planners cleared the R-5A for series production. The AAF designated the first 26 aircraft off the line as YR-5A service test aircraft, but these helicopters did not otherwise differ from production R-5As. Trouble returned to the program after the R-5A began flying. Poor aerodynamic analysis by the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (NACA) caused Sikorsky to turn out unbalanced rotor blades, and the company was forced to correct the flaw with makeshift repairs that hurt performance of the production aircraft. When World War II ended, the AAF cancelled or reduced a number of aircraft contracts, including the R-5A, and Sikorsky completed 60 YR-5A and R-5A aircraft, of which, only nine were delivered before V-E Day. Ironically, the cancellation allowed the designer to further refine the aircraft, and to develop it for the civil market. This work produced the R-5F and its civilian counterpart, the S-51. In these models, the rear-seat cockpit was converted into seating for three and the observer seat became the pilot's position.
Although the AAF accepted R-5A helicopters before the end of World War II, these never reached operational units and service interest in the aircraft appeared to be waning. Sikorsky believed that without military customers, the civilian S-51 held the key to continued growth of the helicopter market and he promoted it vigorously. On November 29, 1945, an S-51 dramatically rescued two seamen from a foundering barge off the coast at Bridgeport during severe weather. This event renewed military interest and a number of R-5 variants served until after the Korean War. Before the arrival of Bell's famed H-13 (Model 47) into the Korean combat zone in 1951, military pilots flying the H-5 (H for helicopter replaced R for rotorcraft) conducted most of the thousands of medical evacuation (medevac) missions flown during that war. The H-5 and the H-13 reduced the fatality rate among wounded soldiers during the Korean War by more than 50 percent, however, the narrow center of gravity range on the H-5 soon made it obsolete compared to newer helicopters. Sikorsky attempted to extend the longevity of this classic design by offering the U. S. Navy a new five-seat version, the XHJS-1, but the helicopter lost out to Piasecki's tandem-rotor HUP-1. As the H-5 disappeared from the U.S. military inventories, Westland Aircraft Limited of England continued to build the aircraft, under license, as the HR.1 Dragonfly. These aircraft served with the Royal Air Force and Royal Navy throughout most of the 1950s.
Helicopter Air Transport (HAT), based in New Jersey, became one of the first commercial helicopter operators when it took delivery of several S-51s in 1946. The operating cost of these aircraft proved too high for HAT's primary business, flight training, and the company went bankrupt. A number of airlines and other companies experimented in the late 1940s and early 1950s with the S-51 for passenger, freight, and mail service but again, the costs of operating and maintaining the helicopter were simply too high for any of these enterprises too succeed. The S-51 failed to develop into a commercially viable aircraft but it proved that civilian helicopters could perform useful jobs, and it paved the way for more advanced designs. However, no helicopter airline has survived without massive government subsidies. Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation continues to produce helicopters that trace their lineage back to the XR-5.
Rotor Diameter: 14.6 m (48 ft)
Length: 13.7 m (44 ft 11.5 in)
Height: 3.9 m (13 ft)
Weights: Empty, 1,656 kg (3,650 lb)
Gross, 2,223 kg (4,900 lb)
Engine: Pratt and Whitney air-cooled radial, R-985-AN-5, 450 horsepower
References and Further Reading:
Gregory, H. Franklin. "Anything A Horse Can Do." New York: Reynal and Hitchcock,
Hunt, William E. "'Heelicopter': Pioneering with Igor Sikorsky." Shrewsbury, England:
Airlife Publishing, Ltd., 1998.
Spencer, Jay P. "Whirlybirds: A History of the U.S. Helicopter Pioneers." Seattle:
University of Washington Press, 1998.
XR-5 curatorial file, Aeronautics Division, National Air and Space Museum
Roger Connor, Russell Lee, 8-9-01


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