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|2012-10-01, 02:20
|Link #2502
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I just watched the movie I was wrong it is some overtly large SAR craft.
Though the movie does give hints as to the nature of AO universe and others like it. Probably a clue what Quartz really is and its purpose.
And probably why Secrets are an antibody response to Scub and Quartz.
|2012-10-01, 10:46
|Link #2503
A certain collie of rain.
Join Date: Jul 2012
I think I'm up to something.
Has it been implied what would have happened had Adroc not removed the Amita drive back at the experiment with Eureka and "saved the world"?
Sorry about the ruckus, then.
And, not trying to oppose your opinion, just honestly wondering- what made you think it was a Search and Rescue ship? Obviously by its behavior, coming down to 'survivors' like that in order to rescue them, it does make sense that it's one, but (correct me if I'm wrong) haven't Renton and Eureka appeared in Neverland in that ending scene? Would there really be anyone to 'rescue' them there? And rescue from what?
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|2012-10-01, 13:26
|Link #2504
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Although at the same time this feels like a stupid theory... XD
As for why the Scub chose Naru instead of Ao... I kind of just figured that was because Ao already was half Coralian so making a link to him would be "useless", probably because the Scub sees him more as one of it than a human, so the Scub figured it wouldn't be making communication like that...
And this second part is probably one of those other theories that feels stupid to say...
You know I'm going to stop now before I feel stupid for sharing any of these more theories that can be stupid and plausible at the same time
|2012-10-01, 13:33
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|2012-10-01, 18:19
|Link #2508
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The original E7 states that the Scub didn't know anything about humanity when it arrived. Why would the Scub, after becoming enlightened, return to the past and suddenly lose all its memories of what happened before?
THIS is why people are so upset. E7:AO says the Scub came from the future. The Scub KNOWS about Renton and Eureka. It doesn't make sense that the Scub wouldn't recognize Ao as one of its own, even being half human. And even if it didn't, Eureka came to the past too. Why didn't the Scub contact her then?
In the end, we're left assuming that they forgot their own lore and just chose Naru as the vehicle of the Scubs' will out of plot contrivance.
Another example of the out of place behavior of the Scub is them allowing themselves to be suicide bombed by Secrets. Orange wasn't even totally annihilating the Scub, just hurting it enough that large portions of it were waking up. The Secrets are. Why in the WORLD would they deploy antibody coralians to defend themselves in the case of the former and not the later?
We've considered this for a long time, trust me. It doesn't make any sense at all.
And even then, Eureka has shown (episode 49) that she can hear the voice of the Scub (she noted that she couldn't hear them anymore after the Command Cluster is destroyed). Why wouldn't the Scub just dial her up when she arrived in the past? She is the first coralian to successfully fulfill the mission the Scub gave to her. Why wouldn't it recognize her?
And with what we've learned in episode 22, why in the world would the Scub be destroying multiple universes after becoming enlightened and telling Renton and Eureka to show the way to all life on the planet?
You're not being stupid. There's a lack of information for any of us to solve this thing out. Even at 22/24 episodes we're STILL grasping for straws.
First, there's the fact that the Spec2 inexplicably appeared in the past and Eureka was piloting it, even though Spec2 evolved into Spec3 and LEFT. We can assume that this is another one that Renton built, but its never stated that it is. We're just left to think that its the original with no explanation (probably so we could be all nostalgic).
Second, (ignoring all the prior) we know that Naru is currently in control of the Spec2. Which makes it physically impossible for Renton's Nirvash to be a Spec3 with armor. The fact that Renton built the RA272 probably means he built this Nirvash too.
|2012-10-01, 21:33
|Link #2509
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No... I still feel stupid for somehow derping on the fact the Scubs in AO came from the future... did this happen in the last couple of episodes and somehow I forgot it because I was busy trying to clean up the mess of releases that happened when *someone in group who will not be named* tried to bypass the main editors of the subs... >_<
And yeah, you don't have to remind me of the familiar Eureka seveN series, I sure as hell know that one, kinda special to me in a way <3
As for how Spec 2 and Spec 3 could exist together I just figured that was more time shit... it doesn't make sense for Spec 2 to be in AO at all...
|2012-10-01, 21:50
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|2012-10-01, 22:06
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Nirvash is NOT a loose term collaborating archetype-based LFOs. While we don't know what exactly makes a Nirvash archetype qualify for the name, we can assume that Nirvash LFOs have a coralian partner(artificial coralian in Anemone's case) and certain properties (sentience being one of them). theEND had a lot of unique properties but not as many as the typeZERO did.
What we have in Astral Ocean is an example of the writers just taking the name and running with it. I'm getting the strong feeling that the current ones didn't really pay too much attention to the original series.
|2012-10-01, 22:28
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Spinning Lotus
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You keep beating me to the punch, Tyr. But, just to address one point, Renton using the name isn't necessarily ignoring the original series, just honoring the original with a new series based on it.
|2012-10-01, 22:30
|Link #2513
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The Scub arrived from space destroying the space craft called Eureka 7 and landing in the ocean assimilating coral. That is why they are called Scub Coral.
As seen with Eureka and the Gekko the Scub coral were teleporting somewhere else. In this case the AO universe.
The Scub Coral did not come from space but from another universe. As seen with Renton he is moving universe to universe looking for his family and the means to save the multiverse. The world he is on is the Pocketful of Rainbows universe 10,000 years later. Saying another world was destroyed as the Scub broke pass the quarantine.
Scubs coming back to life and masses of Coralian Carriers. Everything she did was for Ao. She said that herself. In her twisted mind if the world discriminates Ao because he is different then she'll make everybody the same as him. She pulled a Magneto.
Only now did she realize her mistake as facts are laid bare. She was harming lots of people now that Truth is on a rampage. As high Trapar concentrations has a bad effect on Coral Carriers.
|2012-10-01, 22:38
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|2012-10-01, 22:51
|Link #2516
Spinning Lotus
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Nirvash is just a name. It isn't the name of the archetype, it's the name of the entire unit. The Nirvash's archetype was unique, and the only one with which the Amita Drive worked. TheEND is not the same thing. For that matter, to claim that there was no Compac Drive is foolish because it had a completely atypical cockpit. There's no empty slot to make your claim true. Futuremore, considering TheEND is either a) a pile of scrap metal in his universe or b) an abandoned LFO in Ao's universe, either way you slice it he could not have upgraded it as you're trying to claim. This new Nirvash isn't the same one. The real Nirvash is currently in its spec2 form for whatever reason and it still has the Amita Drive with it.
|2012-10-01, 23:14
|Link #2517
Join Date: Apr 2012
Second, I hadn't talked about Naru at all really (except to wonder why coral carriers were necessary in the first place), so I'm not sure where you got that I didn't watch Eureka 7. In fact, I've been watching over and over just so I can get a better idea of where things don't make sense in AO. Diane explained the origins of the Scub Coral well enough in episode 47.
We still don't know what this "quarantine" is, or why the Scub is destroying worlds. Especially when the Scub we know and love would never do things like this. Or at least that's what the original E7 would have us believe. If the Scub is truly a dimension hopping entity, why hasn't the Scub from E7 met up with the Scub from other universes and given them the proof that humankind can live together with them and they don't need to commit genocide on a multidimensional level?
And even then, all this STILL doesn't explain why the Scub Coral hasn't tried to contact Ao yet (or why he isn't just privy to Scub communications telepathically like his mother was). Or why it hadn't contacted Eureka immediately. Or why there's been no Antibody Coralians or anything of the sort. The Scub didn't try to assimilate any of the cities that had been attacked with Orange, the first thing it did was respond to the attack with antibodies.
|2012-10-01, 23:16
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|2012-10-01, 23:24
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The Scub was supposed to have reached enlightenment. Did it suddenly renege on its decision and decide to exterminate humanity? Maybe we'll find out in episodes 23/24, maybe not.
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Monday, 6 March 2017
The Carnage of Art
So in February, I took an introductory evening course in calligraphy. The short course just covered the basics, like understanding the characteristics of different nibs, learning how to dip the pen in liquid ink, acquiring the central skill of making thick and thin lines and practising some basic alphabets.
Dipping the pen proved to be a challenge for me. After the first class, I was ink from ass to tea kettle, as the old saying (sort of) goes. It took days for the black ink to finally wash off my hands. Good thing it wasn't red ink or I'd have looked like a serial killer.
In the second class, for reasons unknown to me, my efforts at calligraphic writing produced a loud skritch, skritch, skritch noise that was literally heard throughout the whole classroom. Perhaps I was pressing too hard, I don't know.
One of my coworkers signed up for this class too, which was great because she's fun to be around. She took to calling me "Inky and Scratchy," which I actually thought was quite clever. I certainly butchered enough calligraphy paper to warrant comparison to that violent duo, LOL!
51 comments:
- anne marie in philly said...
they fight
they fight
they fight and fight and fight
fight fight fight
fight fight fight
the itchy and scratchy show!
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Davoh said...
Ah ...RESIST the influence of Baron Bic. Fight against the influence of Bill Gates. RESTORE the art and discipline of the quill pen.
When electricity fails ... there is always spitting Ochre on rocks.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- DEZMOND said...
where's the photographic evidence?
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Marie Smith said...
Lol. Calligraphy is such a great art.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Snap said...
Keep at it! Practice practice practice .... fun fun fun .... scratch scratch scratch.....!
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Mark said...
Caligraphy sounds harder than I thought it would be. Good on you for trying something new. Calligraphy was something I was interested in but I think I'm a little scared off now.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- LL Cool Joe said...
It always good to try something new, even if it's only to find out you are crap at it. Ha!
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Bob said...
I have toyed with calligraphy forever. Love it; love the beauty and the structure of it.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Insomniac's Attic said...
What a shame I got rid of all my 1970's calligraphy books when we moved three years ago ... I bet if I checked the Goodwill store I donated them to they'd still be there! I have your address, you know. ;)
I cheat these days - you can buy Sharpie calligraphy pens at Staples now. Not as authentic but way less mess.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Davoh said...
The next challenge - is to create your own paper ... meh.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- brewella deville said...
I used to work for a woman who specialized in making these very elaborate wedding documents in Hebrew using calligraphy and watercolors that ended up looking like pages of some medieval illustrated manuscript. Practicing calligraphy must be a fantastic form of meditation.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Magaly Guerrero said...
I hope you got yourself some red ink.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- The Happy Whisk said...
Funny about the red ink being like blood and the new nickname.
Happy Monday & Boogie Boogie.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- A Beer for the Shower said...
That's awesome that you're taking this up, and I envy anyone who can do this. I can draw, yes, but lettering of any kind always evades me, and my version of calligraphy would just look like a medieval doctor's note.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- MrsDuncanMahogany said...
This post had me smiling from start to finish! Love the Itchy and Scratchy show!!! Good for you for learning something new. Maybe its just me but I think that scritch scritch scritching sounds would be lovely :)
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Miss Val's Creations said...
Kudos to you for putting in the effort! My handwriting is atrocious so I have a feeling my calligraphy would be quite scary.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Anna of Mutton Style and Years said...
Love that 'inky and scratchy '. Is there a purpose to the calligraphy or just fun.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- The Captain said...
I'd love to be able to do calligraphy. It's definitely harder than it looks.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Debra She Who Seeks said...
@ Anna of Mutton Style and Years -- No, it's just for fun. I have no ambitions to be a calligraphic artist or to produce finished pieces.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Jono said...
My father used to like playing with calligraphy. I don't think I have the patience. Or ability.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Rosemary said...
One of my friends was a wonderful calligrapher, and I always envied her skills, but I think that I would probably have been like you.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Cheryl said...
Hahaha..your co-worker is quite funny. Inky and Scratchy!!
So how many classes are involved? Just the two?? I think calligraphy is beautiful but as a left handed person I am pretty sure I would suck at it. Other than the scratching noise, were you able to write some pretty lettering?
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Debra She Who Seeks said...
@ Cheryl -- There were only 3 classes, so a lot more instruction and practice would be required to be a decent calligrapher. I was able to make some nice individual letters but producing a whole word that was well-done escaped me. In the last class, the instructor said I was "just on the verge of getting it" so I suppose that was meant to be encouraging. Of course, we had to fill out course/instructor evaluations that night too so perhaps she was just buttering me up, lol.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Adam said...
"I have to go now, my planet needs me"
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- mshatch said...
I remember doing calligraphy in art class in high school. I would definitely need a book to copy from if I was going to manage. There are some pretty cool fonts though...
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Guillaume said...
I love Itchy and Scratchy.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- SmitoniusAndSonata said...
Calligraphy is another thing like lino cuts , yoga and screen-printing which reveal one's inner Tigger .
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Janie Junebug said...
I'm too messy to do anything artistic, so I applaud you even if you're a noisy calligrapher.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
That sounds awesome. Who cares if you weren't able to do it successfully on your first try, you were given the gift of insight into an art form that neophytes like me look at as though it's magic. Who cares if your hands end up looking like an even more offensive parody of an Al Jolson tribute? You now have secret insights into how the swirly doodle letters are made.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- Rawknrobyn.blogspot.com said...
How fun! I had a very creative artistic teacher in 4th grade, who taught the class calligraphy. So I learned at a basic level, though - maybe not - I don't know what a nib is. I hope you'll show us some of the work when you get through the Itchy and Scratdhy phase.
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- HBF said...
That sounds so fun! I remember playing around with calligraphy a little when I was younger, but I didn't keep it up. I do remember it was fun.
As far as ink goes... been there. I once woke up and had blue ink on my hand and no clue how it got there. No matter how it got there, it stayed for the rest of the week!
- Monday, March 06, 2017
- baili said...
i am so glad that you are learning something new dear!i am always fascinated by this beautiful way of writing.
i have worse hand writing so can't even think about writing as marvelously .
i hardly hold my laughter while reading about noise you made during the effort [my neighbors always keep ear stick to wall beside my room]
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- G. B. Miller said...
Ah, you are a much better woman that I to attempt the very fine art of calligraphy. May your hand be steady, your output be clean and your imagination endless.
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- The Blog Fodder said...
My late wife loved calligraphy and was quite good at it. Keep working on it. It is a lovely art. You can do it!
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- JoAnn ( Scene Through My Eyes) said...
Congrats for taking the lessons. I have a very bad habit of not trying something new because I don't like the learning part and I don't think I can do it, though I always find that when I finally give in and try something it is never as hard as I was sure it would be. Maybe I'll get on those drawing lessons!
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Martha said...
It sounds like fun! And a little messy. But mostly fun :)
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Jim said...
Hey, you participated and gave it a go, Debra. Now when you see this art form you may appreciate the skill behind it.....not that you didn't already.
My grandfather was a recognized calligrapher nationally back in the 40's and 50's. His work also included exotic bird sketches and other fancy things.
I will try to forward a sample of his work.
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- This N That said...
I've always wanted to try calligraphy but somehow never got around to it..I'd probably have about as much luck as you did..Cute post !!
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Ol'Buzzard said...
I love beautiful handwriting. But, nobody does it any more. It is e-mail, tweet/twitter 135 characters on some electronic screen. You might receive a card with a signature - but written communication... Will there come a time when handwriting will archaic? Regrettably, I think so.
the Ol'Buzzard
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- JACKIESUE said...
I wanna learn how to do that..my I have arthritis in my hands and it's hard enough to write regular..even typing is a pain in the ...hands..
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Holly said...
The older I get the more I delight when I have the courage to attempt something new! Good for you Scratchy!
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Magic Love Crow said...
Inky and Scratchy! LOL! Very cute! I think it's wonderful you took this course Debra. I think it would be very interesting and fun! I probably would press down too hard too! Are you going to practise? Would love to see your letters!
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Harry Hamid said...
That seems like it would be a lot of fun. It's something I'll never get around to elarning, but it's also something I never would have thought of. Even if you were too loud, good on you...
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Kay G. said...
I think you just did this so you could do a post and write "different nibs". Don't know why, but that just looks funny to me! (Sorry, I am very tired and a bit weird today!)
- Tuesday, March 07, 2017
- Lynn said...
I'll bet your final product was nice and I admire you for learning something new!
- Wednesday, March 08, 2017
- Birdie said...
I tried calligraphy once. Total disaster.
- Wednesday, March 08, 2017
- Debi said...
HaHaHa! Like nails down a chalk board! The noise would annoy this old beast, Lynne' s Sharpie pens! Yeah! Rescued!
I am happy for your thrust for adventure at any cost! Very glamourous that ink & pen stuff! Yes Pictures please! 😂👌🇨🇦
- Wednesday, March 08, 2017
- Lois said...
Isn't is incredible to try something new? A new skill, something completely outside personal norm...
- Friday, March 10, 2017
- Barbara said...
I took a class a long time ago and really enjoyed it but would not say I was a prodigy. Funny though, I ordered a couple of books from the library on caligraphy just last week. I wasn't sure why I was ordering them, but I had a hankering so I did it. Show us your work if you keep it up.
- Friday, March 10, 2017
- Fundy Blue said...
Your post made me chuckle, Debra! When I was growing up, we had to practice penmanship in school a lot right through 6th grade. And we had to work with fountain pens and a bottle of ink. Our desks all had holes to hold the bottle of ink. I was always having trouble with blots and scratch-scratching. I found the sound of the pen on paper very uncomfortable to hear. Used to give me goosebumps. But I can imagine you with beautiful pens and jewel-colored ink scratch-scratching away! Wishing you and your Rare One a lovely weekend!
- Saturday, March 11, 2017
- AntiquityTravelers said...
oh that is just awesome ... inky and scratchy. I know that scratchy sound as I learned calligraphy as a kid and it took me quite awhile to get it right. The ones you start with that you dip seem to go dry quickly and they scrape along the paper ... and I was know to push right on through it. Yep definitely pushing too hard. The inks I love are the india inks .... they are watery in blues and reds .... so pretty!
- Saturday, March 11, 2017

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Five tips for back to school time
Back to school time can be problematic for both children and parents. UNC Health Care experts offer tips for dealing with five issues that might arise.
Tip No. 1: Know the signs of school phobia, separation anxiety and social phobia
Starting or returning to school can stir up a bevy of emotions with a range of effects, from bothersome to debilitating. Knowing a little bit about a few of these problems helps parents and children manage and overcome them.
- School phobia – extreme anxiety from going to school or even talking about it. Causes could range from being bullied to grieving for a lost pet. Reassure the child that fear is normal, remind him of good things in school, and don't give in to a desire to stay home.
- Separation anxiety – afraid of being without mom or dad can be paralyzing and have long-term effects. Focus on fun things, provide rewards and be consistent about leaving your child or he won't learn that anxiety is temporary.
- Social phobia – extreme fear and avoidance of social situations or of being the center of attention can begin in elementary school as extreme shyness, difficulty making friends or not speaking up. See a mental health professional. The disorder can manifest in adulthood as trouble keeping a job or staying in a relationship.
Tip No. 2: How to help your student return to healthy sleep habits
"One thing is clear; everybody is not getting enough sleep," says Dr. Leslie Boyce, director of the UNC Pediatric Sleep Center.
Many problems are related to poor "sleep hygiene," but others can be attributed to more serious problems such as sleep apnea or restless leg syndrome. In teenagers, a normal shift in their biological clocks could be to blame.
Kids up to 12 need about 10 to 11 hours of sleep a night; they average seven to nine. Teenagers need at least nine, and they get seven. In children, lack of sleep can manifest in poor attention and foul mood.
Some tips include:
- Tonsils may cause obstructive sleep apnea; have your doctor consider that cause.
- Lights out – including computers and games – an hour before bedtime
- Melatonin might help regulate your teenager's sleep time
Tip No. 3: Common myths, and reality checks, about sexually transmitted diseases
Dr. Nicole Swiner of UNC Health Care's Durham Family Practice clinic says she has seen an increase in teens and 20-somethings with sexually transmitted diseases this summer. Back to school time could add to the increase, and many of these patients put themselves at risk because of certain myths they believed, Dr. Swiner said, such as:
- Myth: "I feel fine and don't have any problems, so I don't need to be tested for STDs."
- Reality check: STDs can linger in the body for years before you notice symptoms, and even if you don't have symptoms, you could still infect your partner. If you are sexually active, then you need to be tested for STDs when you have your annual physical exam, Dr. Swiner says. This is true for both sexes, from teens to older adults, who are sexually active.
Tip No. 4: Prescription meds can make back-to-school time tricky, and risky, for kids. Here are tips for a smooth and safe transition.
For children taking prescription medications, schools often require documentation from the physician and a separate prescription that will stay at the school, says Mary W. Roederer, Pharm.D., from the UNC Department of Family Medicine. So, before the school year starts, parents need to get an extra prescription from their physician, fill out all required forms and coordinate with their child's teachers and/or school nurses.
Back to school time can be very stressful, a trigger that causes some older children to rummage through their parents' medicine cabinets, while younger children may mistake prescription drugs for candy. For these reasons, parents should keep prescription drugs out of their children's' reach, preferably under lock and key, Roederer says.
Tip. No. 5: Know your child's heart risk
Heart disease starts early in life, with sedentary lifestyles and poor eating choices. Dr. Cam Patterson, director of the UNC McAllister Heart Institute, explains the physiology and provides tips to help kids chart a heart-healthy course.
With sudden cardiac death, however, there seems to be little anyone can do to prevent it. It's rare – about one in 50,000 for kids 12 and older, but the topic arises each year as our kids start playing school sports. There are things people can do to help prevent a catastrophe:
- Be sure your child has a physical every year before beginning sports; The American Heart Association recommends a 12-point screening exam before beginning participation in sports
- Be aware of symptoms of heart problems, including shortness of breath, chest pain or fainting
- Encourage your community to install AEDs – automatic external defibrillators – and teach people how to use them
- Make your doctor aware of any cardiovascular problems in your family's history


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Hi there,
I have finally published the next adventure in the Spirit Dragon series. Third is written and being edited. This series is dear to my heart for I hope to inspire and encourage karateka with the children's adventure which all ages have come to love. For today, to encourage readers (and maybe reviews) I'm offering the digital format free.
Here is a description. I hope you'll take a peek, and discover the lessons within the adventure. It certainly helped me to grow deeper in my own practice to write it.
Enjoy and thank you for the read (pun intended )
Seized by adventure Brandon becomes a white tiger by night while heading off disaster by day. His darling Marisa is stolen by the too tall and too good looking, Tim. The ensuing clash reaches into his subconscious where the two rivals battle it out in another realm, the tiger and the golden mane war for supremacy.
Just when things couldn't get any worse Brandon is seized and locked up, losing Marisa and the approval of his Sensei in the process. Can kata save him this time? Brandon sure hopes so.
Print version is out as well.
A special thank you to Mr. Glasheen for the encouragement to keep writing and keep publishing as well as the post.
Kerry Morgan


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Here's a press release one of the Oakland A's Boosters alerted me to:
"OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — The Oakland Athletics players have decided to donate one full playoff share to eight local and national charitable efforts, a total of $34,325.16.
Reliever Jerry Blevins, the team's player representative, informed the front office that he and his teammates voted to donate one playoff share to charities – including Hurricane Sandy relief efforts. The other charities are the MLB Players Trust, UMPS CARE, Oakland A's Community Fund, Big Brothers Big Sisters of the Bay Area, United Way of the Bay Area, Donnie Moore Ministries and the "Strike 3 Foundation."
The AL West champion A's lost in five games of the AL division series to the Detroit Tigers after a sensational final week of the regular season that included a three-game sweep of the Texas Rangers to capture the division crown."*
The A's full share of Playoff money was $2,124,312,75. The players decided to split the money into 51 full shares, 9.786 partial shares, and 20 cash awards. They took the 51st full share and gave it to charities of their choosing. We all knew that this team was special. This is another example of what wonderful human beings these guys are.
Apparently, Johnny Gomes (now with the Boston Red Sox) was the player who urged the others to set this share aside for charity at a team meeting held in Texas near the end of the season. It seemed a long shot at that time, as the A's were 5 games back of of the Rangers with only a few more games than that left to play. But do it they did, winning the division on the last game of the season against Texas!
As Casey Pratt of CSN wrote, "Some of the lowest paid players in the league offering up their hard earned money to people that need it more. That tells you all you need to know about the character of these Oakland Athletics."
* * *
An Apology: I started this bog a few years ago while I was writing my book, Contract Year: a baseball novel. During the final rewrites and publications phases, I neglected my blog, posting only sporadically. To my followers, I am truly sorry. But now that the book is published, I will have more time to devote to it and will try to live up to my original promise to post at least 3 or more times a month. Today is the first step in that direction.
People have asked me how the book is doing, and the answer is very well. I am proud of the fact that it enjoys a 5-star rating on Amazon! Check it out on my website by clicking on this link: www.contractyearnovel.com, where signed copies are available as well as ebook versions in both Kindle and iPad versions.
That's all for today. See you again here soon, I promise!
*Press release courtesy of Yahoo Sports.


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I2P dev meeting, April 2, 2013 @ 21:00 UTC
Quick recap
- Present:
dg, dr|z3d, K1773R, KillYourTV, lillith, orion, RN, Shinobiwan, str4d, weltende
Full IRC Log
20:52:42 <lillith> okay meeting topics for today:
20:54:22 <lillith> 1. Are bounties appropriate?
20:54:29 <lillith> 2. Managing money
20:54:29 <lillith> 2a. The ssl certs
20:54:32 <lillith> 3. Making the i2p project official
20:56:38 <lillith> 4. Procedure regarding decicions for the project (for example making it official)
20:56:53 <lillith> for scrollback from last week if you were not here, http://sighup.i2p/irclogs/show?search=&user=&from_date=26+Mar+2013&to_date=26+Mar+2013&channels[]=#i2p-dev&per_page=3&page_format=Html
20:56:53 <lillith> relevant zzz.i2p posts: http://zzz.i2p/topics/1359 for the meeting thread
20:56:53 <lillith> http://zzz.i2p/topics/1366 for the bounties thread
20:57:07 <iRelay> Title: zzz.i2p: Managing the project (at zzz.i2p)
20:57:09 <iRelay> Title: zzz.i2p: I2P Bounty System - 2013 (at zzz.i2p)
20:57:55 <trolly> chosen download bin file from zzz.i2p?
20:58:02 <lillith> 1. Are bounties appropriate, and further bounty discussion
20:58:05 <dg> Huh. Corruption again!
20:58:50 <lillith> not sure who (if anyone) woud like to be pinged, so i'l go on
20:59:22 <dg> trolly: that's a bug
20:59:30 <trolly> haha, no problem
20:59:41 <lillith> Last week it was decided that while bounties can be a good thing they may well need some looking at
20:59:48 <trolly> a trojan bug? just joking..
20:59:59 <dg> try to nab the output of `http_proxy="http://127.0.0.1:4444/" http://zzz.i2p/whateverurlbrokebefore` and check /logs for anything important
21:00:05 <dg> it seems to be corruption, we saw this on id3nt.i2p in the past
21:00:19 <lillith> i suggested some revisions of the 50 BTC syndie bounty to echelon, and he has updated it
21:01:06 <lillith> which led me to two questions: can/should we employ people, ie give them a small amount of money regularly over an extended period?
21:01:57 <lillith> and what exactly is the procedure on bounties funded by i2p's money, not directly from a donor
21:02:20 * lillith opens up the floor for discussion
21:04:50 <str4d_> dg: if it's occuring on another site, that suggests an I2P tunnel problem.
21:05:26 <dg> str4d_: This happened before, is what I am saying. I do not know if the person affected == trolly but it was a few months back and none of us had any answer.
21:05:41 * str4d_ was affected by it.
21:05:52 <dr|z3d> dg: !!!
21:05:56 <dg> Okay, more than one person.
21:06:10 <dg> I believe zab was still around at the time which may tell you the period..
21:06:21 <dg> dr|z3d: !!!
21:06:24 <str4d_> But the issue is orthogonal to the current discussion =)
21:06:36 * dr|z3d lols.
21:06:47 <lillith> str4d_: implying discussion ;)
21:08:32 <Shinobiwan> should i2p employ people? yes and no IMO. yes the people that continue to provide services that make i2p of higher quality (such as running the default IRC network and the more popular things like id3nt.i2p) are the best candidates to receive funds... in addition to the developer stuff which may have bounties attached.
21:09:27 <str4d_> Shinobiwan: I wouldn't consider that employment though.
21:09:50 <str4d_> "Employment" would be payments for the purpose of direct I2P development (code or otherwise).
21:10:19 <dr|z3d> Shinobiwan: i2p should award effort and achievement.
21:10:43 <lillith> what i had initially proposed was a small monthly payment for maintaining syndie, getting and keeping it into repos, bug fizing, etc
21:12:25 <dr|z3d> otoh, i2p should not award aspiration, lazinesss or failure to deliver.
21:12:32 <str4d_> That seems like a good compromise between the current bounty system and "proper" employment (which is hard for anonymous dev work)
21:13:20 <str4d_> Right. So if a monthly system were set up, the payment would be subject to "sufficient" work having been done.
21:13:31 <lillith> dr|z3d: absolutely. there is plenty of money to give to people who deserve it
21:14:06 <str4d_> (So it would require a monthly meeting between the deciding people to analyze the various outputs during that period)
21:14:09 <dr|z3d> lillith: we're swimming in it.
21:14:35 <str4d_> I don't think that failure to deliver in one particular month should be cause for complete funding cuts, though.
21:15:03 <dr|z3d> commitment, dedication, service.
21:15:04 <lillith> people have afk commitments as well as internet ones
21:15:07 <Shinobiwan> derp, pingout.
21:15:37 <dr|z3d> remind me again why str4d_ isn't getting compensated? :)
21:16:07 <str4d_> I'd propose a more flexible system where the "employee" gets paid for the months they do sufficient work in.
21:16:07 <str4d_> (extended absences would be grounds for discontinuing funding though)
21:16:22 <str4d_> lillith: exactly (like zzz currently)
21:17:02 <str4d_> dr|z3d: under my proposed system, I wouldn't be at present =P
21:17:26 <dr|z3d> the threat of halebopp dropping indent inspires zzz to offer hosting costs. so why does str4d_ have to battle with eche|on to get hosting funding?
21:17:53 <dr|z3d> i offer one word: incompetence.
21:17:56 <str4d_> dr|z3d: that's on a tangent.
21:18:42 <dr|z3d> str4d_: more than likely.
21:18:45 <darrob> what kind of maintenance work are we talking about here? shouldn't bugs and specific goals like repo inclusion be separate bounties so more than one person can claim them?
21:18:56 <str4d_> There are two kinds of potential funding that I can see - the bounty/employment hybrid above, and donations from I2P towards community services. These should be treated separately.
21:19:25 <dr|z3d> value added recompense.
21:20:00 <dr|z3d> anything else is jizz. like paying 10btc for dogpoo.
21:20:03 <lillith> str4d_: and competitions too, if there were ever to be another
21:20:10 <str4d_> darrob: what we are trying to do is promote developers staying around.
21:20:13 <str4d_> lillith: true, that's a third category.
21:20:40 <dr|z3d> also beer. my bad.
21:21:34 <RN> I wouldn't mind being paid beer for my humor... ;)
21:21:43 <lillith> from echelon.i2p: - the I2P general fund will cover all needed costs of I2P - discussed by dev team and will be noted here and on official webpage
21:22:09 <lillith> i think most things would be acceptable as long as they are discussed and agreed upon beforehand
21:22:12 <str4d_> darrob: So rather than paying out a large lump sum for an arbitrary milestone and then the dev goes AWOL, we define smaller milestones and tasks within the confines of (what is currently called) the bounty, and the dev gets continual smaller payments.
21:23:55 <str4d_> The bounty system would still exist for bounties proposed by third parties (as they have control over how their funds are used), but for bounties that would be proposed by I2P itself from I2P funds, the new system should be better for I2P IMHO.
21:24:26 <dr|z3d> bounties are shit. hit and run contributors.
21:25:09 <lillith> dr|z3d: hence why we are discussing a new system
21:25:12 <dr|z3d> not to mention "i paid $200, I'm important attitudes"
21:25:26 <str4d_> Part of the problem IMHO is that the current system only has a general description, with no concrete structure.
21:25:49 <dr|z3d> lillith: excuse me if i'm not quite following the finer points of the argument :)
21:25:52 <str4d_> For the new system, we need an agreed set of guidelines for proposing and managing funded tasks.
21:26:59 <lillith> dr|z3d: if people want to waste/spend their money on bounties for improperly completed features, they should still be allowed to imho
21:27:58 <str4d_> lillith: yep. Or they can choose to use the new system, by donating their money to I2P and putting in a request through whatever process we decide on to set up a new funded task.
21:28:16 <lillith> i agree - there is money there, and we might as well use it, so we might as well use it properly and effectively
21:28:56 <lillith> and then if the donor goes awol it's still technically a community owned bounty
21:28:59 <darrob> i'd like to see people sticking around too, of course, but i don't see how bounties are shit at all. on the other hand the monthly thing sounds like trouble but i don't mean to dismiss it too quickly.
21:29:02 <str4d_> Tasks funded via the new system need to be funded with money controlled by I2P, because it will be a panel of I2P representatives who decide what counts as "sufficient" work, not the donor themselves.
21:29:03 <dr|z3d> lillith: i disagree. donate to the project and let the project decide how to distribute rewards.
21:29:06 * Shinobiwan not sure if my other msgs went through
21:29:17 <Shinobiwan> <Shinobiwan> bounty and employment != donation ... both should take place I think... employment/bounty for dev specific stuff... and perhaps donations for things like community services
21:29:19 <Shinobiwan> <Shinobiwan> the employment part would need more of a specific set of conditions
21:29:24 <Shinobiwan> <Shinobiwan> the community service part, really just needs the community to decide what's worth supporting
21:29:27 <Shinobiwan> <Shinobiwan> and then dish out something appropriate
21:29:50 <str4d_> dr|z3d: both options will be there.
21:29:53 <K1773R> Shinobiwan: they didnt, now they did :)
21:30:04 <str4d_> Shinobiwan: http://killyourtv.i2p/irclogs/latest.log.html for scrollback.
21:30:07 <iRelay> Title: #i2p-dev logs for Tuesday, 2013-04-02 (at killyourtv.i2p)
21:30:12 <dr|z3d> "oh we need russian" no we don't. we need commitment. not money chasing rats that disappear as soon as the bounty is awarded.
21:30:24 <Shinobiwan> thx str4d, K1773R
21:30:47 <lillith> dr|z3d: a new, private infrastructure may well appear for paying individuals for work - it might as well all be in together
21:31:27 <str4d_> darrob: the reason most proposals sound like trouble is because we don't have a large enough developer base to properly run/support them. Therefore, a proposal that should result in a larger developer base is a good idea.
21:31:42 <dr|z3d> money should not be able to dictate the project. period.
21:32:01 <KillYourTV> and http://killyourtv.i2p/irclogs/%23i2p-dev.2013-04-02.log for "live" scrollback (the HTMLized logs are processed every 10 minutes or so)
21:32:16 <dr|z3d> sponsor the project, great, but don't tell us how to spend the money.
21:32:27 <darrob> dr|z3d: i like it if a money chasing rat fixed certain features in syndie and ran. what's the problem? maybe someday syndie will get a real developer again but that person won't necessarily need payment then. actually, as far as committed maintainers are concerned, it might actually be counterproductive to offer a pay for the job.
21:33:05 <Shinobiwan> thx KillYourTV
21:33:19 <KillYourTV> np
21:33:36 <dr|z3d> darrob: the "problem" is money thinking it can dictate the agenda.
21:33:39 <lillith> dr|z3d: i2p isn't being told how to spend its money, because bounty money never was i2p's. i2p/echelon just act as an escrow service
21:33:39 <str4d_> Interesting point dr|z3d - I think part of this depends on what we define as the I2P project.
21:34:42 <str4d_> lillith: I think the point dr|z3d is making is that, rather than being told how to spend its money, I2P is being told how to proceed, i.e. the development path is decided by the person with the most money.
21:34:57 <darrob> dr|z3d: bounties are just offers (or cries for help). where do you get the negative attitude?
21:35:21 <str4d_> And if the bounty process was adhered to as-is, that could potentially be rather problematic wrt the threat model.
21:36:18 <lillith> that is a good point - i hadn't thought of it in that way before
21:36:47 <Shinobiwan> a set of rules that says "This person must be paid on this date" is a good idea in that, that person can count on the income to be there when they need it. But on the other hand, it also may create drama when people fail to meet other people's expectations of what that money is really going towards... so I think it's probably not inappropriate to have meeting specifically for 'paydays' or whatever... if there's going to be a 'regular' thing.
21:37:35 <dr|z3d> bounties are shit. show me ongoing commitment from bounty hunters and i'll change my view. except you can't. hit and run merchants.
21:37:49 <str4d_> So maybe what needs to happen is that any tasks/sub-projects that affect I2P directly must be funded and controlled by I2P itself.
21:37:52 <dr|z3d> darrob: i get the "negative" attitudes from half complete work that's awarded a bounty, only to disappear before you can say "um, i think you missed..."
21:38:03 <dr|z3d> darrob: also, next time you pretend str4d_ is a css artist, don't bother. you insult yourself.
21:38:10 <dr|z3d> and you also lose a friend.
21:38:13 <lillith> dr|z3d: didn't str4d_ and zzz claim some bounties for the unit tests?
21:38:17 <darrob> dr|z3d: what?
21:38:20 <str4d_> dr|z3d: OT
21:38:55 <dr|z3d> str4d_: yeah. also, beer. darrob: if you don't get it, *yawn*
21:39:03 <str4d_> lillith: that was after the unit tests bounty was split up into sub-tasks/milestones (which I'd say was a step towards the proposed new system).
21:39:45 <str4d_> dr|z3d: keep on-topic in here please =)
21:39:56 <lillith> I think everything has been said on this topic now no?
21:40:03 <Shinobiwan> if bounties exist IMO they should go towards the things that nobody currently part of the community knows how to or can do, IMO... not the things they dont have time for.
21:40:06 * dr|z3d recalibrates.
21:40:06 <darrob> i guess all i'm trying to say is that i question that hit and run improvements are necessarily a bad thing.
21:40:19 <Shinobiwan> I2P will survive with everyone supporting it, not just the people who get paid
21:40:30 <str4d_> darrob: they are good for kickstarting development in a new area
21:40:37 <str4d_> But the I2P router/project is not a new area, IMHO
21:40:53 <str4d_> So, how about the following:
21:41:20 <dr|z3d> Shinobiwan: like design! *laughs* 5 years of asking for help, and not one iota of thought to offer a bounty *laughs*
21:41:58 <str4d_> Projects that directly affect the I2P program/network can be funded only from I2P funds, and donors who want to contribute just donate to I2P.
21:42:21 <dr|z3d> because designers aren't coders, ergo worth nothing. except when you're offering 10BTC/100$ for anything, including crayons.
21:42:47 <str4d_> Projects that don't directly affect the I2P program/network but are still I2P-related (e.g. syndie) are eligible for bounties on new/substantial work.
21:42:58 <dr|z3d> sorry, but I can't take this conversation _too_ seriously, built as it is on an anthill of incompetence.
21:43:01 <str4d_> (But can also be managed via I2P if the donor wants)
21:43:23 <lillith> dr|z3d: i'l ping you when we move on then :)
21:43:26 <str4d_> But a bounty would need to be more accurately-defined than the current system allows.
21:43:46 <dr|z3d> lillith: very good, sir :)
21:44:04 <str4d_> s/allows/does
21:44:10 <darrob> str4d_: does that imply that there will be an i2p management board to make those decisions? i think that was another week's discussion, right?
21:44:32 <str4d_> darrob: yes.
21:44:42 <str4d_> This is separate to any "official-ness".
21:45:05 <lillith> str4d_: sounds good :)
21:45:32 <str4d_> But there would be a panel of (elected) developers (coders/designers/contributors) who are trusted with steering the I2P project.
21:45:46 <str4d_> I.e. something a bit more formal than what we currently have.
21:46:00 <lillith> darrob: that's either coming up or later, depending on whether we want to continue
21:46:26 <str4d_> Mmm. My proposal works under the assumption that such a panel exists in some form.
21:47:05 <str4d_> (exact specifics being discussed later as above)
21:47:21 <Shinobiwan> lulz
21:47:28 <Shinobiwan> what's #i2p-dev then?
21:47:35 <lillith> i disagree with the panel idea tbh
21:47:38 <lillith> meetings seem to work well, and they let new people have a say too
21:47:38 <lillith> it would need to be large enough to get a variety of perspectives
21:47:38 <lillith> you never know who might offer then next amazing idea
21:48:04 <str4d_> lillith: exactly.
21:48:11 <Shinobiwan> it's that panel, but yea... it would need to become officially official
21:48:18 <str4d_> But with the current size of the developer base, that's hard.
21:48:25 <str4d_> It's a chicken-and-egg problem.
21:48:35 <str4d_> And we need to break into the loop somewhere.
21:51:05 <lillith> Shinobiwan: yea, thats basically what i'm trying to say :)
21:51:05 <lillith> actually no it's not
21:51:05 <lillith> #i2p-dev along with mailing lists, zzz.i2p, syndie, etc
21:51:05 <lillith> anyone who wants a say should have a chance imho
21:52:35 <str4d_> lillith: yes, but there still needs to be a group of people with a final say.
21:52:53 <Shinobiwan> people need to know eachother w/out knowing one another... to the point I can say, str4d, KYTV, dr|z3d ... (a lot more but just for example) have been on the network for so long, and IMO all make I2P of higher quality. Collectively I think people can figure out and reach an agreement who would go on such a panel... even though nobody really knows eachother AFK. Opinions from new people to the project should be listened to also
21:52:53 <Shinobiwan> however
21:53:00 <str4d_> (i.e. the people who control the funds. Currently, that is a single person - eche)
21:53:25 <str4d_> At least to begin with.
21:53:52 <str4d_> The Debian developer model is a good one for making decisions like you suggest lillith - all done via voting.
21:53:55 <lillith> so, everyone has a say, a few (3 or 4) people have the final say?
21:54:10 <str4d_> (And a "developer" is just someone who has contributed in some way IIRC)
21:54:25 <str4d_> But a voting system needs a larger base of "developers" first, I think.
21:54:51 <str4d_> lillith: anyone can suggest an idea - that's never going to change.
21:55:06 <Shinobiwan> in my mind it's more than 3 or 4 people.. more like 12+ and growing... but people that fail to make the meetings don't get to vote... (and if their vote is especially important/relevant, then the meeting might happen another time)
21:55:12 <str4d_> But I2P has finite resources, and those resources need to be allocated appropriately.
21:56:06 <str4d_> (the biggest resource being time from continual developers)
21:56:20 <KillYourTV> as I wrote on zzz.i2p, I think votes such as via gpg signed messages to a mailing list would be better than irc. We've got mailing lists and they should be utilized.
21:56:20 <str4d_> s/biggest/most important but currently most limited/
21:56:23 <iRelay> str4d_ meant: (the most important but currently most limited resource being time from continual developers)
21:56:28 <str4d_> KillYourTV: agreed.
21:56:43 <Shinobiwan> ya gpg signed == much better
21:56:54 <str4d_> Provides a transparent and verifiable archive of votes.
21:57:09 <lillith> is that topic 1 over then?
21:57:09 <darrob> i agree also. don't expect to accomplish any serious discussion on irc.
21:57:12 * KillYourTV is 'stealing' ideas from Debian's system(s)
21:57:19 <str4d_> http://www.debian.org/vote/
21:57:22 <iRelay> Title: Debian Voting Information (at www.debian.org)
21:57:39 <lillith> it's all open source, its there to be 'stolen' :)
21:58:06 <lillith> 2. Managing money
21:58:10 <KillYourTV> and with mailing lists you have the oh-so-helpful 'plonk' mechanism available if needed to raise the signal to noise ratio.
21:58:21 <lillith> eche|on: ping
21:58:24 <K1773R> KillYourTV: dont copy the "GPL Nazis" idea pls :P
21:59:46 <lillith> afaict the money management wrt bounties has already been discussed enough
22:00:12 <str4d_> KillYourTV: if we go the mailing-list route, the mailing-list needs to be usable entirely within I2P (currently not the case).
22:00:23 <str4d_> (But also usable externally)
22:00:33 <lillith> but there are other, non- bounty uses for money, for example purchasing ssl certificates
22:00:36 <KillYourTV> agreed
22:00:53 <darrob> str4d_: the nntp interface should qualify.
22:00:53 <KillYourTV> and agreed to lillith's last point (ofc)
22:01:04 <lillith> dr|z3d welt weltende welterde echelon
22:01:07 <darrob> ...which i *think* is functional.
22:01:10 <KillYourTV> are they linked?
22:01:30 <KillYourTV> I know they were supposed to be but the last I checked (months ago) they weren't.
22:01:38 <Shinobiwan> purchasing ssl certificates would go w/ donations IMO ... community services ... the same way to decide what the money goes towards as donations.
22:01:41 * KillYourTV fires up the nntp tunnel
22:01:41 <darrob> you can at least read through it.
22:01:44 <lillith> can we keep this ontopic guys, project management is coming up :)
22:02:01 <Shinobiwan> i.e.. have a meeting... say "we need this"... "agree?" ... panel says OK ... majority of panel green light
22:02:32 <Shinobiwan> not so quickly, but the general idea.
22:02:32 <Shinobiwan> hehe
22:02:47 <str4d_> Shinobiwan: can fall under the same vote system proposed above.
22:03:14 <Shinobiwan> yep
22:04:16 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> well the ML interface is accesible via i2p more or less.. http://vmfwbic2brek2ez223j6fc6bl5mmouzqvbsch45msvyyzih3iqua.b32.i2p/ still contains redirects to lists.i2p2.de.. not sure what to do about those
22:04:24 <iRelay> <iRelay@freenode> Title: lists.i2p2.de Mailing Lists (at vmfwbic2brek2ez223j6fc6bl5mmouzqvbsch45msvyyzih3iqua.b32.i2p)
22:04:32 <Shinobiwan> if there is such a panel, it is not finalized at a fixed number of people... IMO... it should grow, and grow and grow... so, whatever panel currently exists, should have some procedure to bring in new panel members regularly
22:04:43 <darrob> we need a central party with a politburo and the users' congress. :)
22:04:46 <KillYourTV> FTR, the mailing lists as currently set up are not available via nntp.
22:05:04 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> (haven't added it to the hosts.txt yet)
22:05:42 <KillYourTV> (at least not under i2p.*)
22:06:27 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> hmm.. they should be.. but maybe not under i2p.*
22:06:46 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> I didn't set it up.. so don't really know anymore ;)
22:06:58 <darrob> KillYourTV: i think i2p. are welt's preexisting groups. the new ones are alt.privacy.i2p.dev/general and alt.privacy.syndie.dev/general.
22:08:42 <KillYourTV> ah...nvm me. now that I refreshed the list again I see those new ones.
22:09:00 <KillYourTV> sorry
22:09:03 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> ah.. right.. slrn didn't show them as they didn't contain unread messages
22:09:34 <darrob> i'm still confused why there are no messages. i really thought i saw a couple of test messages before.
22:09:45 <lillith> can we get back on topic please?
22:10:23 <lillith> i, and surely others want to know what's going on with ssl certificates for the i2p domains
22:11:17 <KillYourTV> i didn't see the topic change, just <lillith> but there are other, non- bounty uses for money, for example purchasing ssl certificates /me zips it
22:11:56 <lillith> ahh, sorry
22:12:06 <lillith> <lillith> can we keep this ontopic guys, project management is coming up :)
22:12:23 <KillYourTV> and what's the topic? ;) (I didn't see that switch)
22:12:30 <lillith> <lillith> 2. Managing money
22:12:41 <lillith> <lillith> afaict the money management wrt bounties has already been discussed enough
22:12:41 <str4d_> lillith: eche is currently sourcing the required money.
22:12:48 <lillith> <lillith> but there are other, non- bounty uses for money, for example purchasing ssl certificates
22:13:16 <str4d_> <kytv2> eche|on: any updates on the certificate situation? I haven't had to get "real "certs for a while and don't know how long the verification process takes nowadays.
22:13:19 <str4d_> <eche|on> kytv2: I am on the hunt for 3k euro and cert requests...
22:13:29 <lillith> so it's under control then?
22:13:36 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> and pushed..
22:14:14 <KillYourTV> yes, it's being taken care of
22:14:21 <orion> Can I reiterate my opinion that it's dangerous to have one person managing all the money?
22:14:45 <orion> ok
22:15:00 <dg> Current topic = ?
22:15:03 <orion> It's not being put in to some off-shore corporation, right?
22:15:14 <lillith> <lillith> 2. Managing money
22:15:21 <str4d_> orion: no.
22:15:58 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> afair eche wanted to speak with an lawyer about making i2p an official entity of some kind
22:15:58 <lillith> dr|z3d: ping :)
22:16:12 <str4d_> Currently our funds lie in a (bank?) account owned by eche|on and (mostly) in a Bitcoin wallet held by eche|on.
22:16:49 <KillYourTV> yes, that's right, in .at IIRC
22:17:07 <KillYourTV> (wrt: 'official entity')
22:18:46 <lillith> at as in austria?
22:18:53 <dg> yes
22:19:19 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> (not australia *scnr*)
22:19:46 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> (running gag from EEVblog if you are curious)
22:20:26 <lillith> okay, looks like we've moved on again
22:20:41 <lillith> 3. Making the project official
22:21:12 <str4d_> lillith: re: money management, it's rather dependent on both the "official" status of the project, and the project management status.
22:21:30 <str4d_> (The former re: where funds are kept, the latter re: how funds are spent)
22:22:14 <lillith> ok, fair enough :) we can straddle points 2 and 3 for a while then :)
22:25:16 <trolly> must go
22:25:19 <trolly> bye
22:25:47 <trolly> later I'll send yo new translaion str4d_
22:29:26 <lillith> or not, as the case may be
22:30:11 <lillith> i'd suggest time to move on :)
22:30:28 <iRelay> <jenkins@kytv> Starting build #28 for job I2P-Bote
22:30:28 <lillith> 4. Procedure for making decisions in i2p
22:31:27 * KillYourTV votes for taking long discussions about important decisions to a mailing list
22:31:30 <iRelay> <jenkins@kytv> Project I2P-Bote build #28:SUCCESS in 1 min 3 sec: http://jenkins.killyourtv.i2p/job/I2P-Bote/28/
22:31:34 <lillith> so, mailing list, hierachy, etc
22:31:37 <KillYourTV> That way anyone can take part when he/she can
22:31:50 <lillith> i'd like to put in an honourable mention for syndie here
22:31:56 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> +1
22:32:03 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> (@ML)
22:32:04 <lillith> everything is signed by default, for a start
22:33:18 <KillYourTV> I like syndie too (ofc), but mailing lists would be easier for outsiders to take part
22:33:45 <lillith> but yes, i agree in principle. no point hanging around waiting for discussion that clearly isn't happening
22:33:48 <KillYourTV> that's not to say that discussions can't be mirrored to syndie...
22:34:33 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> yeah.. nntp syndie gateway or so would be nice to have
22:34:36 <lillith> and of course, officially moving is only one thread away ;)
22:35:54 <KillYourTV> 21:00 UTC isn't handy for everyone. On a mailing list time zones mean nothing. On a mailing list there no netsplits, relay problems, or ping outs. For meaningful discussions a mailing list (IMHO) is _THE_ way to go.
22:36:30 <dg> KillYourTV: I agree.
22:37:54 <KillYourTV> irc is good when you need pretty-damn-close-to-realtime...but "we need a new domain" doesn't have that kind of urgency. Post it and it'll be addressed when $user can address it.
22:37:54 <lillith> imho syndie has all the benefits of mailing lists and more, the only issue is accessability for outsiders
22:38:32 <lillith> then again, how many people that we want to include already use mailing lists?
22:39:03 <KillYourTV> There's been talk of a Syndie webapp" but I don't think that's gone (and will) go anywhere.
22:40:20 <KillYourTV> I'd gather that more use mailing lists than IRC.
22:40:31 <lillith> i don't want to dominate a discussion on syndie vs ml here, but i think it's something woth considering
22:41:25 <iRelay> * weltende@freenode prefers his mail/nntp client tbh
22:42:04 <KillYourTV> syndie via mutt would = 'win'
22:43:14 <lillith> this topic also includes hierachy, which was touched upon before but imo needs some expansion
22:45:09 <dg> I don't know if we can come to a consensus on anything AND have a discussion easily with IRC meetings anymore.
22:45:28 <dg> It worked in 2006 when it was more of a quick update on the project but it's not anymore and it involves lengthy debates/discussion.
22:46:40 <lillith> having more time to think through things would result in on topic, well thought out, clear discussion
22:46:47 <lillith> threading also = win
22:47:13 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> +1
22:47:21 <KillYourTV> +1
22:47:28 <dg> +1
22:47:39 <dg> might I add: nntp, fuck yeah.
22:47:50 <lillith> irc meetings were always an experimental thing, and the experiment failed :)
22:48:05 <dg> hey, lillith, at least we're having the discussions now, right? :)
22:49:40 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> imho we should keep irc meetings and move things that take a long time in the meeting or which has a lot of discussion to the ML
22:50:11 <lillith> yep :) seems like no-one actually likes meetings anyway haha
22:50:15 <dg> I think it's mainly due to the timing.
22:50:18 <dg> And pressure to respond in a fast manner..
22:50:18 <dg> postman: http://zzz.i2p/topics/1367
22:50:18 <lillith> but there's no chance of getting a time thats good for _everyone_
22:50:18 <lillith> plus some people have irregular schedules
22:50:18 <dg> Exactly.
22:50:25 <iRelay> Title: zzz.i2p: I2P and e-mail (at zzz.i2p)
22:50:30 <lillith> with a heavy heart, and feeling rather poetic, i'd gladly baf the last meeting ;)
22:50:41 <dg> weltende: I was thinking this.. keep irc meetings for discussion of some things in the ML (actually doing something & such). W
22:50:44 <dg> go for it, lillith.
22:51:26 * lillith bafs the meeting closed
22:51:36 <lillith> thank you, and goodnight :)
22:52:01 <iRelay> <jenkins@kytv> Starting build #103 for job I2P
22:52:09 <lillith> can susimail handle mailing lists?
22:52:41 <KillYourTV> sure, but I'd use a 'real' client like claws or mutt
22:53:04 <KillYourTV> (just a matter or preference)
22:54:55 <lillith> ahh, thats okay then :)
22:56:33 <iRelay> <jenkins@kytv> Project I2P build #103:SUCCESS in 4 min 34 sec: http://jenkins.killyourtv.i2p/job/i2p/103/
23:01:15 <iRelay> <jenkins@kytv> Project I2P UnitTests build #74:SUCCESS in 4 min 31 sec: http://jenkins.killyourtv.i2p/job/UnitTests/74/
23:04:51 <KillYourTV> and +1 to meetings continuing with the bigger things being taken to mailing lists/forums/syndie.
23:05:54 <KillYourTV> IRC is good for quick status updates..but a "newsletter" of sorts could work for that purpose too.
23:06:19 <lillith> it's nice to have a start, with some goals, and an end, with a consensus
23:06:22 <dg> mailing list also works for alerts. see how tor do it with consensus issues.
23:06:46 <lillith> 'today THIS is what we decided and THIS is what we're going to do about it'
23:07:29 <lillith> i'm not sure but i imagine ml discussions as dragging on with no distinct endpoint
23:07:52 <lillith> +1 for newsletter though
23:08:33 <KillYourTV> they can, sure...but I think more will be accomplished on a long ML discussion than a 4-5 hour long irc meeting.
23:09:08 * lillith signs up with an open mind :)
23:09:38 * psi likes the idea of a mailing list
23:09:53 <K1773R> where is the ML?
23:10:01 * KillYourTV really likes MLs but they (the ones on the Internet) will probably cause his AFK identity to be leaked...heh
23:10:12 <KillYourTV> lists.i2p2.de i think
23:10:39 <KillYourTV> and (/me scrolls up)
23:10:54 <KillYourTV> http://vmfwbic2brek2ez223j6fc6bl5mmouzqvbsch45msvyyzih3iqua.b32.i2p/
23:11:08 <iRelay> Title: lists.i2p2.de Mailing Lists (at vmfwbic2brek2ez223j6fc6bl5mmouzqvbsch45msvyyzih3iqua.b32.i2p)
23:11:24 <dg> it just redirects
23:11:55 <KillYourTV> there's also nntp.welterde.i2p
23:12:37 <KillYourTV> alt.privacy.i2p.*, alt.privacy.syndie.*
23:13:16 <KillYourTV> (cheers darrob for pointing me to the right usenet groups)
23:14:57 * RN wanders off to tinker with thundirbird
23:17:46 <str4d_> +1 to meetings continuing (but sticking to time) and +1 to "important" discussions on the ML.
23:19:32 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> for you interested.. posting is atm allowed for the following groups:
23:19:35 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> post: "i2p.*,alt.anonymous,alt.anonymous.*,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.privacy.anon-server.*,alt.privacy.i2p.*,alt.privacy.syndie.*"
23:25:35 <KillYourTV> this will have to be fixed before "important" discussions make their way there http://lists.i2p2.de/pipermail/i2p-general/
23:25:42 <iRelay> Title: The I2p-general Archives (at lists.i2p2.de)
23:26:27 <KillYourTV> ...unless the messages were purposely wiped (which wouldn't make sense)
23:30:13 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> hmm..
23:30:21 <iRelay> <weltende@freenode> no idea atm.. but heading to bed now


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care-bear • about 6 years ago
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- It's more important to ship passion than wait on perfection. It's terrifying to put your ideas out into the world; you could be laughed at, ridiculed, slammed, and so much more. It's easier to keep chipping away at a project until you are absolutely sure of its perfection than to reveal a work in progress. But, today, every piece of a work has to be a work in progress. It's the only way to stay relevant. Embrace the editor within which allows you to put out a beta version, and then tweak it to perfection 2.0. People will respect your passion, and if they don't, it doesn't matter. One of my favorite quotes is by Theodore Roosevelt: "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
- Beware of the ugly baby syndrome. While getting my graduate degree from the University of Texas at Austin, I took one of the most challenging and useful classes of my educational career—one that taught how to evaluate a business idea. We went through countless case studies, trying to determine if they would succeed or fail based on the facts given. During these discussions, our professor often referred to "the ugly baby syndrome"—similar to the tendency for every parent to think their bundle of joy is the cutest baby in the world, he said some people love their ideas so much that they refuse to see that it actually isn't very pretty. He was trying to stress the importance of objectivity in business. Don't love your idea because you created it. Be open to objectively analyzing, changing, and—if necessary—moving on from a bad idea.
- Differentiate or die. I miss the early days of the Internet, where you could find yourself a "niche" and suddenly own the marketplace. Today, you should expect stiff competition in almost every industry and it is more important than ever to differentiate yourself. When I started an online marketing company almost three years ago, there were tons of agencies out there, but no one seemed to truly understand the pain of the client. Our clients wanted us to do more than consult; they wanted a company who could customize a turn-key Web marketing solution for them that would result in greater leads and visibility for their business. When we beganto offer to take over Web marketing for our clients, revenues skyrocketed. We found a differentiator within the industry. No matter what business you are in, find a way to stand out.
Shama Kabani is the award winning CEO of The Marketing Zen Group, a full service online marketing firm in Dallas. She is also the author of the bestseller The Zen of Social Media Marketing, and an international speaker. @shama
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Morning Five: 02.17.14 EditionPosted by nvr1983 on February 17th, 2014
- On Saturday, Mike Arespo, the commissioner of the American Athletic Conference, said that the member schools were committed to matching other power conferences when it came to giving student-athletes stipends. Although Arespo did not specifically state how much the schools would be willing to spend it appears that it would likely be the often-quoted full cost of attendance. As Arespo notes, there are a myriad of other political and legal issues that have to be addressed, but this could be another step in further separating the haves from the have nots.
- Indiana suspended sophomore forward Hanner Mosquera-Perea indefinitely after he was arrested on a DUI charge (technically an operating while intoxicated charge). Mosquera-Perea, who has struggled to live up to the hype generated by his ridiculous YouTube clips coming out of high school, was arrested on Friday morning just after 3 AM. Normally we would figure that a coach would make an indefinite suspension go away rather quickly, but with the way that Mosquera-Perea and the Hoosiers have been playing there might even be the possibility that Crean keep him out for a prolonged period of time. We doubt that it will happen, but it would be nice to see a coach hold a player accountable for doing something like this for once.
- We have mixed feelings about the decision by Lamar to fire Pat Knight on Sunday. On one hand, Knight has been awful at Lamar going 3-22 so far this year after going 3-28 last season. The lone bright spot during his nearly three-year run at the school was a NCAA Tournament appearance in his first season that was sparked by his epic rant. On the other side, we have no idea what the school is getting by firing a Knight a month before their season will end. For some schools we can understand the idea that you can get a better coach, but when you are Lamar you really don't have a shot at the real big names. So unless there is something that we are missing like an issue with Knight behind the scenes it seems like a strange time to fire him.
- We should probably be more familiar with new NBA Commissioner Adam Silver, but we mostly know him as the guy who typically gets the big standing ovation when he takes over for David Stern at the NBA Draft between the first and second round. It appears that Silver could be making a name for himself more quickly than we anticipated. In an interview in USA Today, Silver stated that he would like to raise the age limit by one year and get rid of the one-and-done rule. We understand that there will be some legal issues with doing so, but we think that those are likely the same philosophical issues that people have had with the current age limit. On a selfish level, we would love to see this because it would mean that players would most likely have to stay for two years. Frankly we are not sure why this would not be something that the Players Association would be in favor of too since it would give the current members an extra year of job security.
- Jay Bilas has made a habit out of poking fun at the NCAA for its many hypocrisies. One of his more popular stunts from last year was exposing how the NCAA was selling player jerseys by advertising the player's name on their website even though they claim it is team jersey not a player jersey to bolster their assertion that a player should not receive a portion of the profits. On Friday, someone in control of Syracuse's social media accounts made the mistake of advertising a Syracuse #11 jersey as a Tyler Ennis jersey. While it was already obvious to every fan who wears that #11 jersey for the Orange this season in theory this should be a NCAA violation and more importantly a legal problem for the school and the NCAA since they are not supposed to profit off a player's likeness. You can be sure that the O'Bannon legal team appreciated this gift.


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Mission Mission
The primary mission of the Namibian Defence Force as enshrined in the Constitution, Chapter 15, Article 115 is to defend the territorial integrity and national interests of Namibia.
Its secondary roles include assisting civil power and local authorities in domestic support operations when required, as well as to undertake SADC, AU and UN Peace Support Missions.
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The Namibian Defence Force envisions developing and maintaining a small, highly mobile and professional force which excels in services through discipline, vigorous training, possession of modern armament and is ready to defend and guarantee the security of the motherland. Moreover, this force should actively contribute to the promotion and maintenance of international peace and security.