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Republican Woes Go Far Beyond Poor Tactics and Weak Arguments
Jonah Goldberg describes what he thinks is wrong with the Republican Party:
It's not that the GOP isn't conservative enough, it's that it isn't tactically smart or persuasive enough to move the rest of the nation in a more conservative direction [bold mine-DL]. Moreover, thanks in part to the myth that all that stands between conservatives and total victory is a philosophically pure GOP, party leaders suffer from a debilitating lack of trust — some of it well earned — from the rank and file [bold mine-DL].
The crucial thing missing in the column is any attempt to explain what moving in "a more conservative direction" means. If most Americans are now more skeptical of wars of choice than they were ten years ago, for example, I would say that they have moved in a more conservative direction as I understand the term, but this is almost certainly not what Goldberg means. That is an example of how movement conservatives aren't just failing to make the best arguments they can, but instead tend to favor policies that are substantively flawed and antithetical to conservative principles. If that's right, the answer can't simply be better messaging and tactics. The answer to Republican woes would have to involve substantive changes in what conservatives are trying to achieve.
Movement conservatives certainly have a problem of having far too much confidence in the political efficacy of creating "bold" ideological contrasts, but that is a symptom of a more pervasive obliviousness to the details of the political landscape and long-held mistaken assumptions about the political leanings and preferences of most Americans. That is something that can afflict leaders and the party's rank-and-file alike. That is something that can't be fixed by changing tactics or rhetoric. It is also necessary to question and overturn assumptions that may no longer be valid.
If party leaders sometimes deserve not to be trusted, perhaps the "debilitating lack of trust" isn't solely a product of conservative myth-making. Perhaps it is a result of the leaders' substantive errors and/or betrayals of principle. Put another way, perhaps current party leaders suffer from a lack of trust because they have done an abysmal job over the last ten years or so and have led their party to one policy or political disaster after another. Party leaders enjoyed an excess of trust from movement conservatives in the early Bush years, but this did not produce sound policy or desirable political results. It enabled Republican leaders to govern badly while also linking conservatives closely with the bad policies they implemented. One of the GOP's many problems isn't that its leaders suffer from a lack of trust from their supporters, but rather that they have never been required to face much accountability for their repeated failures.


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Amazon and Apple's 'Tough Slog' on Madison Avenue
Feb 21, 2014 5:00 AM PT
Amazon and Apple just can't seem to catch a break with the advertising elite on Madison Avenue. In fact, advertising sales are a "tough slog" for both companies, mourns a feature in the latest Advertising Age. The problem? Apple and Amazon won't reveal enough information about their customers.
This is the best news I've heard all year. In fact, it just reinforces my loyalty to both Amazon and Apple.
Meanwhile, it also shows how other industries utterly fail to understand the core of two powerhouse organizations. They seem to be looking at what they want Apple and Amazon to provide -- wanting these companies to change to fit their needs, rather than embracing what Amazon and Apple can offer, which, let's face it, is millions of loyal, active consumers who repeatedly spend money on a quality experience.
"The lack of data both companies deliver is frustrating for marketers because these notoriously opaque giants sit atop incredible troves of information about what consumers actually buy and like, as well as who they are and where they live," wrote Kate Kaye.
Pretty Is as Pretty Does
One person familiar with the situation -- thankfully not directly named or quoted -- said that "Apple's refusal to share data makes it the best-looking girl at the party, forced to wear a bag over her head."
There are so many things wrong with this statement, I don't know where to start.
How about this? If Apple were a girl, she wouldn't stand around a with a bag on her head, much less ever let anyone force said bag upon her. Meanwhile, the person behind the statement doesn't even realize that if Apple showed up at the party at all, it would be to invite people over to a different party on the beach -- a place where customers wouldn't feel as if their secret desires and private lives had been bartered and sold all the while they were being groped in an attempt to find their wallets.
As for Amazon, he's the ruggedly handsome guy on the beach, building up the fire and setting up the coolers full of beer.
Let me put this another way: I don't believe that Amazon or Apple actually want a piece of today's advertising world. More to the point, I think they are willing to be part of it only to guide others to a place where everyone has a good time and no one is a bag-wearing object of misguided lust.
Back in 2010, when Steve Jobs introduced Apple's iAds offering, he pointed out that most mobile advertising "sucked." iAds clearly was an attempt to make it better.
For its part, Amazon was worried that advertising would be disruptive to the consumer experience, its advertising lead, Lisa Utzschneider, reportedly noted. What's to love about this statement? That the challenge to integrate ads started from the customer experience, and not a treasure chest map with a path that trampled all over Amazon's loyal customers.
Amazon and Apple Aren't Ad Needy
Fortunately, Apple and Amazon can remain negligible digital advertising players because they don't need to feed at Madison Ave's party trough: Apple's US$258 million in ad revenue in 2013 is a tiny fraction of 1 percent of Apple's $171 billion in revenue for the year. Even if Apple quadruples that in 2014, it's negligible to Apple's bottom line. Bag indeed.
Advertising for Amazon is marginally more lucrative, bringing in $614 million to add to Amazon's nearly $75 billion take for the year -- still less than 1 percent.
During the same year, Google reportedly picked up $17 billion in advertising spend on nearly $60 billion of revenue, while Facebook grabbed $3.2 billion as part of its nearly $8 billion take. If I read these numbers, they tell me one thing: Google and Facebook rely heavily on advertising spend -- so who is their real customer? You? The end user? No way. Their key customers are advertisers.
For good or evil, this introduces a layer between you and your relationship with Google or Facebook and how they manage their relationship with you and the data they create to describe, predict and influence your behavior.
Lusting After Apple and Amazon Data
Data is at the heart of the misunderstanding with Madison Avenue, which must not be able to look in the mirror and recognize the pattern of "suckiness" that Jobs saw back in 2010.
Because Apple doesn't track its users and ads with cookies, ad agencies can't do "automated buys via their cookie-centric trading desks, which allow them to mesh lots of data from different sources," Kaye observed.
Perfect! This is exactly what I want from Apple -- and more importantly, this is exactly what Apple likely doesn't want: the lowest common denominator ad that is seen everywhere else. It's why Apple doesn't appreciate apps created specifically to look and run exactly the same on any mobile OS -- because so often developers build to the lowest common denominator. Apple seems to abhor a sameness that lacks quality, thought and maybe even pride.
I also appreciate Amazon's rigor over revealing too much customer data. In some ways, Amazon might know more about me than Apple. Why? Apple doesn't know which coffee maker I bought, which lotion, which toys for kids, types of dog food, research over which bicycle tire to buy. Add that to which Kindle books I read or television series I watched on Amazon Prime -- and who knows what Amazon knows about me?
If I feel for an instant that Amazon is breaching trust, selling my secrets, thoughts or desires -- whether I know them or not myself -- I'm gone. Same goes for Apple.
So when I read an article like Kaye's, it's just one more proof point of how Apple and Amazon distance themselves from selling things that get between them and their real customers -- you and me.
May the "tough slog" continue!

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Explicit threads are undisciplined. They need some structure to keep them in line. In this column, we're going to see what that structure is, as we motivate and illustrate best practices for using threads techniques that will make our concurrent code easier to write correctly and to reason about with confidence.
Where Threads Fit (and Thread Pools, Sometimes)
In [1], I described the three pillars of concurrency. The first two pillars summarize the two main kinds of concurrency we need to be able to express: 1. Keep things separate, so that independent parts of the program can run asynchronously. 2. Use more cores to get the answer faster using data-parallel and similar techniques. (The third pillar is about controlling concurrency once it has been expressed, using tools like locks and atomics.)
Table 1 summarizes these two pillars, and also summarizes how well each is served by four major tools at our disposal today for expressing concurrency: threads, thread pools, work stealing runtimes, and data-parallel facilities like OpenMP.
Threads are about expressing Pillar 1 only, and this article will focus on that column: How to effectively use today's tools, notably threads and in some cases thread pools, to express independent work. We'll look at Pillar 2 in a future article.)
Threads: In a Nutshell
Here are the key things to know about threads:
- Threads are for expressing asynchronous work. The point of being asynchronous is to let the units of independent work in the application all run at their own speeds and better tolerate each other's latency.
- Threads are a low-level tool. Threads are just "sequential processes that share memory," and that kind of freewheeling anything-goes model doesn't provide any abstraction or guard rails to make good practices easy and bad practices hard. As aptly criticized by Edward Lee in his paper "The Problem with Threads" [2], threads let you do anything, and do it nondeterministically by default.
- "Up-level" them by replacing shared data with asynchronous messages. As much as possible, prefer to keep each thread's data isolated (unshared), and let threads instead communicate via asynchronous messages that pass copies of data. This best practice inherently encourages writing threads that are event-driven message processing loops, which gives inherent structure and synchronization and also improves determinism:
// An idealized thread mainline // do { message = queue.Receive(); // this could block (wait) // ... // handle the message // ... } while( !done ); // check for exit
Ideally, each thread's logic should be built around the model of servicing its message queue, whether a simple FIFO queue or a priority queue (the latter if some messages should be given priority even if they arrive later).
- Highly responsive threads should not perform significant work directly. Some threads are responsible for interacting with the user (e.g., GUI threads) or with other processes or machines (e.g., socket and communications threads), or for other reasons need to respond to messages quickly. Such threads should perform nearly all their work asynchronously by posting the work to one or more helper threads or, where appropriate, to a pool thread. In particular, highly responsive threads should never block by waiting for a message or trying to acquire a lock.
A final note: In some cases, a thread that is short-running and will not block (wait idly for other events, including inbound messages or locks) can be expressed instead as a thread pool work item for efficiency, to avoid the overhead of creating a new thread from scratch. That's the one valid use of a thread pool for Pillar 1.


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Rehabilitation Services
Rehabilitation is a highly specialized area of medicine that aims to restore functional ability and quality of life to those with physical impairments or disabilities that may result from stroke, brain, or spinal cord injuries. Rehabilitation therapy can be delivered in both inpatient and outpatient settings. Rehabilitation Medicine is different from physical or occupational therapy services which are generally delivered in lower-level care settings.
For over 50 years, Rancho Los Amigos National Rehabilitation Center has been a leader in research and the art and science of rehabilitation medicine. Superior patient outcomes, techniques, and a vast array of services and advanced treatments have led U.S. News World Report to consistently rank Rancho as one of the top rehabilitation centers in the United States.
Rancho's Medicine Department also serves inpatients and outpatients with diagnostic and therapeutic services in areas including Cardiology, Diabetes and General Internal Medicine, Gastrointestinal, Infectious Disease, Intensive Care, Nephrology, Pulmonary and Critical Care Medicine, and Arthritis (Rheumatology).
If you, a family member or friend are currently an inpatient at another facility seeking to transfer to Rancho for inpatient rehabilitation and/or specialized medical services, or are interested in the range of outpatient services offered at the hospital, contact the facility at the number listed below. A hospital patient relations representative will be happy to guide you to services.
Locations that provide Rehabilitation Services
Rancho Los Amigos National Rehabilitation Center
7601 E. Imperial Hwy
Downey, CA 90242
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Buying The Right Colors
Demand for coloured diamonds
Over the last decade, demand for coloured diamonds has increased considerably. This is due to a number of important factors. First and foremost, international investors and collectors have recognized their beauty, rarity and value. Coloured diamonds are the rarest gemstones in the world and collectors consider their beauty unsurpassed in the marketplace. In addition, very few asset classes offer the price stability, long-term appreciation, portability and privacy that coloured diamonds possess.
Until very recently an occasional rarity, coloured diamonds have become a staple, taking an increasing share of trade show and independent jeweller counter space. A recent Financial Times article suggested adding a pink diamond or a rare chameleon diamond to your hard asset portfolio. Many jewelers and dealers believe that demand is the real question because supply is finite.
Historically, coloured diamonds have been for collectors and investors because they hold their value. At the annual Basel show in Switzerland in 2003, a number of dealers began showing coloured diamonds for the first time. Today, few booths will not have a piece or two.
A growing trend in the jewellery market is retail buyers seeking coloured diamonds to add to their jewelry and estate holdings. Recently, the (NCDIA) in the US and Rio Tinto Mining in Australia sponsored a U.S. consumer survey. Chief among the findings: 58.8 per cent of respondents are interested in natural colour diamonds, with many reporting that they are likely to buy or own jewellery containing them, and that most of these purchases would be for themselves. However, there are still fairly low levels of consumer exposure to these diamonds, which means the growth potential is unprecedented.
For example, the growth of right hand ring sales and three stone ring sales in the United States has corresponded with a rise in demand for coloured diamonds because a number of these buyers are looking for second or third jewelry pieces with coloured diamonds incorporated in the design.
During the past five years, three-stone diamond jewelry sales growth has risen almost 35 percent, according to the Diamond Information Center.
The major factors for growth in investment demand for high-quality coloured diamonds are in place, underscored by the rising number of high net-worth individuals, especially in the Middle East, Asia and the Former Soviet Union.China's growing affluent classes is luring more people into jewelry stores, with diamond imports in China rising 116 % in the first six months of 2007. In China, about 40 % of women are getting married with diamond rings. Diamond demand is also experiencing strong increases in India and the Middle East, with sales in India rising 26 % last year and Dubais rough trade in diamonds rising 17 %.
There are fundamental supply restrictions in the diamond mining industry with limited production growth, signified by a lowering mineral reserve base compounded by limited exploration success and relatively high barriers to entry.
Inventories of rough diamonds are at historically low levels with a significant stockpile having been reduced to working capital levels over the past decade.
These factors have lead to the first diamond investment fund being offered in London this year, with over $400 million dollars expected to be raised in order to invest in rare coloured and colourless diamonds.
Demand for rough diamonds is expected to rise to almost $20 Billion in the next five years and mine construction isn't keeping pace with demand. Consumers last year spent $72 billion on diamonds, with the average retail ticket rising 9.1 percent. Retailers and auction houses have noted that coloured diamonds continue to be the highest growth area of the diamond market. Part of this growth has stemmed from sales on the internet, with Blue Nile leading the way by introducing a beautiful collection of coloured diamonds for sale in 2007.
François Curiel, Christie's International head of jewelry, agrees that Middle Eastern buyers are the biggest consumers of colored diamonds in today's market, followed by Asian collectors. "The market for coloured diamonds is as strong as it has ever been," he says. "In our Geneva jewelry sale in November, a fancy intense blue diamond, of 3.71 carats, that had been unsold, at $850,000 in New York in 2002, sold for $1.3 million. Good coloured diamonds are so scarce, that they fetch 10 times the price of a colorless D flawless stone. Plus there is a lot of money around looking for good jewelry." Furthermore, as the supply of diamonds continues to decrease, it is expected that the price of polished colourless and coloured diamonds will grow significantly over the next decade.
The market has already seen selected coloured diamonds selling for double and triple their reserve estimates at the major auction houses. Dealers are reporting that the price of pink, yellow, cognac and blue rough is up by at least 20 % over the last year. As fewer rare coloured diamonds appear on the market and as demand continues to accelerate, collectors who act now will position themselves to enjoy a robust period of growth in the coloured diamond market.


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The evening begins at 6:30 PM on the Perelman Stage in the Stern Auditorium.
The Christmas Rose, conducted by John Page and Paul Geer, also features The Portsmouth Symphony Orchestra, The American Boychoir and dance group Damhsa as well as dancers from the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis School at American Ballet Theatre, Broadway Dance Center's Children and Teen Program, The Nutmeg Ballet and the Princeton Ballet School.
Seymour, who was seen on Broadway in Amadeus, is a two-time Golden Globe Award winner for her work on "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman" and "East of Eden." She also received an Emmy Award for "Onassis: The Richest Man in the World."
Carnegie Hall is located at 57th Street and Seventh Avenue. For more information and tickets, visit CarnegieHall.org.


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Last week we covered an advanced disk-based backup system from EMC that allowed ultra fast data recovery from backups. The major downside to the EMC product is that it carries a heavy price tag and is prohibitively expensive for small to medium-sized companies. Iomega is offering up a backup solution on a smaller scale that looks distinctly like their now-defunct Jaz drive. Each backup cartridge contains a disk capable of holding 35GB of uncompressed data with Iomega promising it will hold up to 90GB of compressed data. While the 90GB figure may seem like a stretch for some, that kind of compression might actually be attainable under normal file server/database usage.
The Iomega Rev appears to be directly targeting the DDS-4 and DAT 72 tape backup solutions which claim 20/40GB and 36/72GB of data storage (raw and compressed) respectively, yet the Iomega solution should be considerably faster in both backup and restore due to its disk-based nature. But what about reliability? We all know about Iomega's infamous ZIP drive and the "click of death". Iomega claims that the Rev has significantly better reliability than other disk-based solutions:
Iomega says it has designed the Rev drive to stay clean without sacrificing the capability to remove it from its box. The shutter on the drive and the shutter on the cartridge open in tandem, so the sealed environments of the read/write heads remain clean inside the drive. They also get cleaned automatically. An air filtration system emulates the clean environment of a conventional hard drive. The drive uses the same error correction system--UDF 1.02--as optical drives, though it's an older version of UDF. Iomega is using this version because a variety of operating systems contain native UDF 1.02 readers, which helps make the Rev highly compatible, say company representatives. You can plug and play a Rev device somewhere that doesn't have a UDF reader, and you'd still be able to read the data, but not write to it.
The retail price for the Rev is US$400 and US$60 per cartridge (or $50 each in packs of 4.) In contrast, a DDS-4 tape drive retails for US$400 to $500 and tapes cost $10 each while a DAT72 tape drive typically goes for US$1000 to $1200 and tapes cost $20 to $30 each. Some people will be quick to point out that it is easy to buy 80GB USB2 hard disks for $100 each and use that as a cheaper and faster backup solution instead. While certainly a possibility, USB hard drives do not seem as viable except for the home user and perhaps the smallest of businesses. The only caveat with the Rev is that (unlike the DDS standard of tape backup) the Rev is a proprietary device that Iomega controls exclusively and therefore locks the consumer into a single vendor. That aside, the Iomega Rev appears to be a fast and viable backup solution.


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SERPENT:(Redirected from VIPER.)
The following terms are used in the Old Testament to denote serpents of one kind or another: (1) "naḥash," the generic and most frequently used term; (2) "peten" (asp or adder; Deut. xxxii. 33; Isa. xi. 8; et al.), perhaps identical with the Egyptian cobra (Naja haje), which is found in southern Palestine, and is frequently kept by snake-charmers; (3) "ẓefa'" (A. V. "cockatrice," R. V. "basilisk," LXX. "asp"; Isa. xiv. 29); (4) "ẓif'oni" (adder, basilisk, cockatrice; Isa. xi. 8, lix. 5, et al.), perhaps the large viper (Duboia xanthina); it is identified also, by some, with the cat-snake (Tarbophis fallax); (5) "ef'eh" (Arabic, "af'a" = "viper"), connected in Isa. xxx. 6 with Egypt; (6) "shefifon" (adder; Gen. xlix. 17 [R. V., margin, "horned snake"]), perhaps identical with the Cerastes hasselquistii, said to have been the asp with which Cleopatra killed herself; (7) "'akshub" (Ps. cxl. 3; LXX. "asp," Arabic version, "viper," A. and R. V. "adder"; Talmud and Rashi, a kind of spider, or tarantula [comp. "'akkabish"]); (8) "zoḥale 'afar" (Deut. xxxii. 24; comp. Micah vii. 17, which designates the serpent as creeping on the earth); (9)"tannin" (Ex. vii. 9 et seq.; elsewhere, "dragon," "monster"); (10) "ḳippoz" (Isa. xxxiv. 15; A. V. "great owl," R. V. "arrow-snake"; the connection suggests some bird); (11) "saraf" and "naḥash saraf" (Num. xxi. 6; Deut. viii. 15; the epithet "fiery" probably refers to the burning sensation and inflammation caused by the venom of the snake).
The idea of flying serpents ("saraf me'ofef"; Isa. xiv. 29, xxx. 6) rests, perhaps, on the confusion of serpents with lizards, which is found also in classical writers. They belong to those fanciful creatures with which folk-lore peoples the desert regions ("Pal. Explor. Fund, Quarterly Statement," 1894, p. 30). For the "naḥash bariaḥ" and "naḥash 'akalaton" in Isa. xxvii. 1 see Leviathan.
Serpents abound in Palestine, as well as in Egypt, the Sinaitic Peninsula, and the Arabian desert. According to Tristram, the serpent tribe is represented in Palestine by eighteen species, mostly belonging to the genera Ablabes and Zamanis, of the Colubridœ family.
The qualities and habits attributed to the serpent in the Old Testament are subtlety (comp. Gen. iii. 1), the disposition to lie concealed in holes, walls, and thickets (comp. Amos v. 19; Eccl. x. 8; Prov. xxx. 18-19), and the habit of eating dust (comp. Gen. iii. 14; Isa. lxv. 25), a belief in which was common among the Greeks and Romans. The art of serpent-charming is referred to in Ex. iv. 3, vii. 9, Jer. viii. 17, and Eccl. x. 11. The ability to stiffen serpents into rods is still possessed by Oriental jugglers.In the Talmud.
The generic names for the serpent are "naḥash" and
The poison of the serpent forms a coherent mass (B. ḳ. 115b). It varies in strength and weight. That of a young serpent is heaviest, and falls to the bottom when dropped into a vessel of water; that of an older one remains suspended midway; and that of a very old one floats on the surface. While the serpent is one of the three creatures which grow stronger with age (the other two being the fish and the swine), the intensity and deadliness of its poison decreases with advancing age ('Ab. Zarah 30b). The poison of the serpent is deadly ('Ab. Zarah 31b). If it is left in the wound it causes a burning pain, so that one sentenced to die by fire may be bitten by a snake instead (Soṭah 8b). The poison spreads through the whole body, and it is therefore dangerous to eat the flesh of an animal which was bitten by a snake (Ter. viii. 6), and even to wear sandals made from its hide (Ḥul. 94a, Rashi). If the bone of a snake enters the foot death may result (Pes. 112b). The snake alone of all animals harms without gain to itself, and is therefore compared to the slanderer (Ta'an. 8a et al.). It is also revengeful (Yoma 23a). Still, it seldom attacks unless provoked; and it gives warning by hissing (Ber. 33a; Shab. 121b). The snakes of Palestine were considered particularly dangerous (ib.); but it is mentioned as one of the perpetual miracles of Jerusalem that no one there was ever bitten by a snake (Ab. v. 5).
The flesh of the snake, mixed with other things, was considered the most effective antidote against the poison of the snake as well as of other animals (Shab. 109b). Other cures for snake-bite are: placing the bitten part into the body of a hen which has been opened alive; applying to the wound the embryo taken from the womb of a sound, white she-ass; and putting crushed gnats on the wound (Yoma 83b; Shab. 77b, 109b). A snake cooked in olive-oil was considered a curative for itch (Shab. 77b).Species or Varieties.
Probably the anaconda is referred to in Ned. 25a et al., where it is related that in the time of Shabur a serpent devoured the straw of thirteen stables. The ringed snake is mentioned under the name of
A bad wife is called a snake in the proverb, "No man can live in the same basket with a snake" (Ket. 72a). But the appearance of a snake in a dream is of good omen (Ber. 57a). For the relation of the serpent to Adam and Eve see Shab. 146a.
- Tristram, Natural History of the Bible, p. 269;
- Lewysohn, Zoologie des Talmuds, p. 234;
- O. Günther, Die Reptilien und Amphibien von Syrien, Palästina, und Cypern, 1880.


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Alcohol + Energy Drinks = Recipe for Harm
A popular practice among adolescents and young adults is mixing alcohol with energy drinks (A+ED), and a new Australian study looks at motivations for this dangerous behavior.
Researchers discovered young adults report pleasure-seeking or hedonistic motives related to sensation and pleasure ideals override fear of addiction or overdose.
Study findings will be published in an online-only issue of Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research and are currently available at Early View.
"Several Australian studies have shown that consumption of A+EDs has become popular in Australia, similar to trends in the U.S. and throughout Europe," said Nic Droste, a doctoral candidate and researcher in the school of psychology at Deakin University in Australia.
"One large study that conducted patron interviews in the nightlife districts of five Australian cities found that approximately 15 percent of patrons had consumed A+EDs at the time of interview. They also found that A+ED users had higher blood alcohol concentration readings than non-A+ED users."
"Recent survey research by our group indicates that just under half of young adults surveyed reported mixing alcohol with energy drinks in the previous six months," added co-author Amy Peacock, a researcher in the school of medicine/psychology at the University of Tasmania.
"This is quite similar to rates reported internationally in university student samples. Consumers in Australia typically report consuming A+EDs in excess of recommended intake guidelines, however it is important to note that this excess alcohol consumption also occurs when people are drinking alcohol without energy drinks."
"'Hedonism' is a commonly used term in the alcohol field which, in this case, refers to people who are trying to increase pleasure and enjoyment, as opposed to other motivations for drinking such as taste, energy, sociability, or to increase or decrease intoxication," added Droste.
Droste and his colleagues asked 594 university students (395 females, 199 males), with a mean age of 22.3 years, in Victoria, Australia to complete an anonymous online survey in 2012. The sample was limited to participants who had reported consuming A+EDs in the previous three months.
The 14 items measuring motivations for A+ED consumption subsequently identified four factors — categorized as hedonistic, social, energy/endurance, and intoxication-reduction motives — as pertinent.
"Our study is the first to show that people's motivations for mixing A+EDs can help to predict whether or not they experience negative outcomes like aggression and violence, alcohol-related injury, and can also indicate their risk for AD," said Droste.
"It is particularly noteworthy that people who reported using alcohol and energy drinks for 'hedonistic motives' — that is, for the taste or the 'buzz' — are at higher risk of reporting one, greater alcohol and ED intake, two, alcohol dependence, and three, being in an accident, being injured, or experiencing aggression whilst intoxicated," added Peacock.
"Hedonistic motives like pleasure seeking and desire for drunkenness have been linked to heavy alcohol use in the past, so the fact that similar motives were implicated with heavier A+ED use makes sense," said Droste.
"This study is unique because it is the first to link the distinctive motives for combined A+ED use with negative outcomes and increased alcohol consumption."
Droste said one result was a bit surprising. "People who drank A+EDs to sober up were actually at an increased risk of experiencing alcohol-related injuries and harms," he said. "This finding is interesting because it could mean that consumers are incorrect if they are assuming that drinking caffeine might reduce their intoxication."
He added that there could be a number of reasons for this misbelief. "Energy drinks are advertised as providing a boost to attention and mental and physical performance," he said.
"It could be that this marketing strategy leads drinkers to believe that energy drinks could cancel out some of the effects of alcohol. Beyond this, hundreds of movies and TV shows have shown coffee as being a cure-all for drunks that need to sober up quickly.
"Maybe this is the latest phase of a long-standing myth that caffeine will help people sober up faster so that they can fool their boss, their spouse, the police, their bartender, or the security guard at the door!"
"These results suggest that different motivations for consuming alcohol with energy drinks are associated with greater risk of certain alcohol-related harms," said Peacock.
"Consequently, we need to develop education campaigns targeted at those consumers who are driven in their beverage choice by these motives to make sure they are accurately informed about the potential effects of mixing the two beverages together, and are aware of the current Australian recommended intake guidelines for alcohol and energy drinks."
"Staying vigilant is definitely the core message here," said Droste.
"Mixing alcohol with energy drinks is still a fairly new drinking behavior so there will be plenty of new research coming out explaining what is safe and what should be avoided.
"Until then, pay attention to the warning labels on packaging of energy drinks and alcohol, they're there for a reason. Finally, drinkers need to know that they shouldn't be using energy drinks in an attempt to sober up and reduce their drunkenness. Our study has linked this behavior to increased harm and injury."
Peacock agreed. "People need to be proactive about seeking accurate information about mixing A+EDs, and consider their motivations for consuming these beverages, as well as the potential consequences of use," she said.
Source: Australia Resource Council
Nauert PhD, R. (2018). Alcohol + Energy Drinks = Recipe for Harm. Psych Central. Retrieved on September 30, 2020, from https://psychcentral.com/news/2014/05/21/alcohol-energy-drinks-recipe-for-harm/70141.html
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In a post I wrote about this time last year, I described a part of our day that we planned to have this year, and hoped it would be time to explore passions in school. While my dream for this time hasn't quite come to pass, it has settled into a somewhat reasonable routine for the 40-50 kids I have each day for 40 minutes and my kids are experiencing a part of the day where they have some control over what they do and how they do it. We have some interesting activities going on, and today I decided ask my kids how they would plan out their week if they had total control over it.
I was fascinated by the responses and may go into more detail about that some other time. What surprised me was how much my kids like to play math games, as most of them asked for at least one day to play math games–either online, OR from the collection I have in my room.
(You have to understand I collect interesting math games that work on skills other than rote computation–and I have some rather hard-to-find games, as well as unusual ones, in my collection. So when kids come to my room and I give them games to play, they are strategy games-games that work explicitly on skills like understanding and using probability and/or chance, reinforcing computational skills in context or building visual-spatial orientation and envisioning.)
The kids today asked for time to play those games, such as
- Yahtzee Free For All–which adds the strategy of taking points from others to the simple reinforcement of multiplication skills
- Skip Bo Dice-which requires students to constantly assess whether it is worth the points they have earned to continue rolling the dice on a turn or whether they should pass the cup.
- Blockus Trigon, which requires kids to think Blockus with triangles and triangle-based shapes
- Shift Tac Toe-which pushes kids to think in three dimensions as they can shift the tokens left to right.
- 3-D Tetris, which is just downright HARD for me–and kids love the challenge of moving an object virtually to fit into what I refer to as a rectangular tunnel.
And there are my iPod apps as well–Math Tables has a twist, where both the problem and the answer are provided, and you just need to match the answer to the correct problem. Number Line asks players to place fractions and decimals in a continuum–from least to greatest. It's pretty tricky, in that the line moves as you put the quantities in place. Both of these are games where kids compete against themselves–both are timed, so they can aim to beat their own time, but we talk smart moves–and how to play so that the interplay between time and increasing accuracy is maximized.
But what brought me to thinking in depth about these games was a tweet from a friend earlier today that made me think about why my kids like these kinds of games so very much. I have an advantage over most teachers in that I get to see kids from all grade levels, K-5, so I can see how kids of varying ages and levels approach the same games. I see, if you will, a progression of what kids think is important in games as they gain more sophistication and mathematical understanding.
What I see from kids who are thoughtful about their learning is a focus on the strategic thinking and sharing ways of working to play the game more efficiently or effectively. For example, as kids play Number Line on the iPod, I hear them say things like "I place the ones I know are close–like .4 and 1/2 –first . Then I scan the others quickly to make sure there are none between them." Or, "I place the biggest one and the smallest one first, if I can see them quickly." "I also look for ninths and single digit decimals. They're usually easy to place because the ninths are just the double digit of the numerator." As kids share strategies they use, they also help others with clues to converting decimals to fractions and vice versa.
Inexperienced kids playing a game are usually incredibly competitive–so they think about winning. For them, it's not about the game, or HOW they play it, but about who wins (and loses.) Then, as they gain more experience in my room and see older kids play the games–or they are in games with the older kids, they hear the sharing of strategies. They realize the "big kids" aren't there to beat them, but instead to try to get better at the game. So the emphasis changes from winning to figuring out how to play the game more effectively. They see that the game is simply a means to thinking.
When are we going to look at school as a means to thinking? How can we foster this kind of learning/sharing/thinking in our classrooms around content more, and more naturally? How can we support learning that isn't about a grade or an outside evaluation, but about getting better at what you're trying to do?


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Jeremy Grantham's latest letter to clients is spectacularly, and relentlessly, depressing; but his oversight of $100 billion-plus in assets under management—on which he has bested the market by a significantly large premium—entitles the doomsaying hedge fund manager to a very respectful hearing.
Investors, Grantham (left) says, might want some valium—or travel visas—handy as they consider that the troubles plaguing the eurozone are "terrifying"; that economic recovery in the debt-plagued U.S., and the indeed the world, is unlikely any time soon; that developed world growth has "permanently" slowed because of long-term slowing population growth, aging and "an overcommitment to the old."
But all that is just preliminary for the principal of Grantham Mayo Van Otterloo (GMO), who says the U.S. has become fundamentally uncompetitive because of "depleted infrastructure," ineffective education and ineffective governance when it comes to tackling long-term issues.
Once investors can recognize there is a problem, Grantham stops mincing words: "We have gone from having been notably upwardly mobile during the Eisenhower era to having fallen behind other developed countries today, even the U.K.!" That was his first exclamation point. He reserves his second for "the most important and the most dangerous issues: depleting resources, development of a comprehensive energy policy, and, yes, global warming. Wake up dudes!"
But even environmental skeptics will want to pay close attention to Grantham's market analysis, which helped his GMO Quality fund beat the S&P 500 by a whopping 9.1% in the first 11 months of the year in a relatively flat market while his balanced fund bested its benchmark by an impressive 4.2%.
In allocating his portfolios, Grantham has been looking at drivers such as rising profit margins and historically low inflation—according to which the market should be 20% higher. The model he and his associate Ben Inker developed suggests that market participants have been driving up stocks only when the "cloud of negatives" temporarily dissipates. Grantham believes the stock market is actually overpriced on the basis of long-term value, but has been investing according to this "behavioral model."
Indeed, Grantham has a rather frightening view of a market that has been "overstimulated" for decades and which consequently has not been allowed to fall to its economically justified level. But because of central banks' "wounded balance sheets," the "arsenal is empty," and the bust, when it comes, should be a doozy:
"When one of these old fashioned but typical declines occurs, professional investors, conditioned by our more recent ephemeral bear markets, will have a permanent built-in expectation of an imminent recovery that will not come" (Grantham's emphasis).
To prepare for what he projects could be a post-correction 14-year lull in stock-price appreciation, Grantham recommends ownership of just high-quality stocks; an emphasis on safety; an avoidance of duration risk in bonds; and, longer term, ownership of unspecified "resources in the ground," though shorter term he sees price declines in resources as likely, as China and the world slow down.


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Remember the Three-Day Close? 15 Days Sounds Fast Today
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New regulations and tighter underwriting since the financial crisis have slowed down the mortgage process so much that closing a loan within 15 days is something lenders can brag about.
Carrington's wholesale unit is promising lenders to be "ready to close" qualifying loans within 15 business days of it receiving an appraisal. It's a far cry from where the industry once imagined it was heading.
At the height of the boom in 2006, Doug Duncan, then-chief economist at the Mortgage Bankers Association, predicted that process engineering could add enough efficiency that by 2016 the industry would be able to close a loan within three days. Others at the time thought it could happen even sooner.
Efficiencies had indeed improved between 1993 and 2003 when overall loan processing times had been cut by one-third, but 2006 was a time of notoriously loose underwriting and the subsequent crash and reform that followed have since served to lengthen closing times back out.
In one regard, Carrington is setting a high bar for itself. Historically, the time it takes to close was measured against when a loan was approved, after the underwriting department had signed off, says David Lykken, managing partner at consultancy Mortgage Banking Solutions. The appraisal is usually the last document submitted before underwriting commences, he notes. So Carrington is starting the clock earlier than lenders usually do.
"This is really due to making sure we deliver a consistent process each time, starting from appraisal receipt allows us to remove any variability in timing of appraisal (especially full appraisals) with regards to scheduling, etc.," said Carrington EVP Ray Brousseau, in an e-mail.
"For certain loan programs that do not require an appraisal, the clock can start at submission to underwriting (with all the required documents.) An example may be an FHA Streamline Non-Credit Qualifying Refinance. For those requiring an appraisal it starts after the appraisal is received, which then is submitted to underwriting. These are prior to underwriting approval," he added.
The average time between receiving an appraisal and being ready to close may be about 18 to 20 days, but depending on how lenders handle the new rules from the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, this part of the process may take even longer, says Lykken. Interpretations of the new borrower notification rules related to valuations so far have varied.
Since those rules took effect last month, there has been "more focus on the appraisal, but I think other processes are going to be challenged, too," Lykken says.
"The overall mortgage lending process is getting longer. This is a trend that's really going to continue. There is more of an opportunity for things lengthen any time you introduce regulation. More processes require more time."
Process re-engineering is helping mitigate this somewhat but new rules keep adding to timelines, at least temporarily, says Lykken.
Carrington promises it will apply a $500 closing cost credit to the loan at closing if it takes more than 15 days.


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Alex Haley, author of Roots, was born in 1921.
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Alex Haley's first notable work was as editor of The Autobiography of Malcolm X. He is most remembered for Roots: The Saga of an American Family, which earned a Pulitzer prize in 1976, and then became a very successful television mini-series in 1977. The story, about African slaves brought to America, was based on Haley's search into his own ancestry. Queen, a sequel to Roots, followed in 1993.
Have students explore their own roots by interviewing family members. Students then use their family history as a basis for their writing.
- First, ask students to identify family members who could share a detailed and interesting family story. Then, have the class brainstorm a list of appropriate questions to "jumpstart" the interview. (Help students think about using both open-ended questions such as "What do you remember about...?" or more specific questions, such as "Where were your parents born?")
- Have students select and interview (by e-mail, regular mail, telephone, or in person) one or two people.
- Ask students to use their interviews as a basis for writing a fictional account of their roots, in the way Haley's Roots was based on his own family history.
- The Kunta Kinte-Alex Haley Foundation, Inc.
The foundation provides a variety of community and educator resources. Teachers can find information on genealogy, biographies of Haley and Kunta Kinte, timelines of African-American history, and more.
- The Autobiography of Malcolm X
This teacher's guide is provided by Random House publishers. The page includes discussion questions, as well as a variety of activity suggestions for the classroom.
- Guide to Family History Research
This website offers tips to get you started researching your own family history. Included is information about organizing the information you already have, using military records, census data, libraries, and other resources in your research, and sharing your family history.
- The Genographic Project
The Genographic Project traces human ancestry through DNA. Individuals can learn about their own history by buying and using a kit prepared for the project.
Grades 9 – 12 | Lesson Plan | Standard Lesson
A Biography Study: Using Role-Play to Explore Authors' Lives
Students read biographies and explore websites of selected American authors and then role-play as the authors.
Grades 6 – 8 | Lesson Plan | Unit
Exploring and Sharing Family Stories
Writing gets personal when students interview family members in order to write a personal narrative about that person.
Grades 9 – 12 | Lesson Plan | Standard Lesson
Making Connections to Myth and Folktale: The Many Ways to Rainy Mountain
Following the model of N. Scott Momaday's The Way To Rainy Mountain, students write three-voice narratives based on Kiowa folktales, an interview with an Elder, and personal connections to theme.
Grades 3 – 5 | Lesson Plan | Unit
My Family Traditions: A Class Book and a Potluck Lunch
After analyzing Family Pictures/Cuadros de Familia by Carmen Lomas Garza, students create a class book with artwork and information about their ancestry, traditions, and recipes, followed by a potluck lunch.
Grades 6 – 8 | Lesson Plan | Standard Lesson
My Life/Your Life: A Look at Your Parents' Past
Past and present come together when students interview their parents and create a skit that compares their parents' experiences as middle schoolers with the students' own lives.
Grades 9 – 12 | Lesson Plan | Unit
Family Memoir: Getting Acquainted With Generations Before Us
Creating a memoir of an older family member allows students both to learn more about their own backgrounds and to learn the power of storytellers.


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Try This! Begin Now for a Better Back to School
With a little forward thinking, you won't need a crystal ball to predict how ready you'll be come next fall.
Organization and preparation are the hallmarks of a good educator, right? Sure, but let's be honest. With so many papers to grade and the end of the school year in sight, it's all too easy to follow Mark Twain's advice—never put off 'til tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow.
Don't be tempted. Just a little planning now can make your transition back to school a whole lot smoother.
Get Your Students In the Game
Ask for student feedback on lessons so you can fine tune them for next year, advises Kate Ortiz, a retired educator from Iowa with more than 30 years of classroom experience teaching elementary and middle school students in both general and special education.
"Rather than an end-of-the year survey, I tried to get feedback after each unit," she says. "Students tend to be more clear and forthright if they provide their opinions without too much time passing."
But if you didn't ask for feedback after each lesson, you can still conduct an end-of-year survey for refining lessons. Ask students to list their favorite and least favorite lessons, and to explain what they liked or disliked about each of them. Ask them what they think worked in the class and what they feel needs improvement. And remind them to answer honestly and responsibly so you can take their evaluations seriously.
Ortiz also asked students to write recommendations for the class of students who would fill their desks the following year. "They'd write about what they thought those students needed to know to be successful and get along in my class," Ortiz says.
She not only passed out the recommendations to the incoming students, she also hung excerpts, like "be respectful and you won't get in trouble" on a beginning of the year bulletin board.
"Much of their advice was what I would have said, but it carried more weight coming from their peers," Ortiz says.
Organize Your Files
"File notes about students and notes to parents in a folder marked with that school year," Ortiz says. Then go through your existing files and remove any that are older than five years.
Ortiz also pulled out her lesson plan files and gathered up hastily scribbled sticky notes she stuck to them during the year with her ideas for improvement. Then she'd revise and reprint the lessons, and file them away again so they'd be ready and waiting for the next school year.
Lisa Kanute, a high school English teacher from Tucson, Arizona, organizes her files electronically.
"I keep a Word Document titled 'Changes for Next Year' on the flash drive I always have with me," she says. "I make simple notes on things that didn't work out as well and, more importantly, new ideas—which usually come to me a week after the unit is over. When I'm gearing up for the next unit or spending time revising things over the summer, all of this information is ready for me in one place."
Set Up Students to Succeed
Patty McConnell, a guidance counselor for Hillsborough County schools in Tampa, Florida, notes what students will be repeating a grade, and keeps up with them over the summer, encouraging them to use the Virtual School software during the break to meet promotion requirements.
"I also note who had large numbers of discipline referrals, so I can select compatible teachers and maybe a mentor to head off issues," she says.
End With a Clean Slate
Avoid starting the new school year with fines or frowns from fellow educators. Return all library books and any supplies you borrowed from your colleagues. You can also enlist the help of your students with this task—ask them for help combing the classroom for misplaced items. But don't start packing up the class before the last day of school. Empty bulletin boards and shelves piled high with boxes will signal to your students that you've already checked out, and they will follow suit.
Illustrations: Oleksiy Mark, Iconspro, Vieloryb, Julia Petukhova
Illustrations: Oleksiy Mark, Iconspro, Vieloryb, Julia Petukhova
More End-of-Year Tips from Our Facebook Fans
Organize Your Documents
I have a folder on my school laptop that has all my end of the year checkout documents (furniture inventory, books, other classroom particulars, and summer contact information). In addition, I have a notebook that contains all the class work, assignments, worksheets, and assessments, so that in the fall, I just have to find the ones I need to get started.
—Jeff Walker
When I pack up my classroom, I put everything I need for the beginning of the year in a plastic tote. That way everything is in one place.
—Rebecca Jasman
Purge and Recycle
I'm a reformed "keep class sets of everything" teacher. At the end of the year, I'll be sifting through files and containers for materials that I haven't used in the past year. I plan to take the class sets and make "Recycling Ideas" packets for the teachers in my other departments and colleagues at other schools. I use green folders and stickies to organize the activities by unit and include a personal note to let them know how much I appreciate the many wonderful ideas I've taken from them over the year. Of course, I also keep one copy for myself, just in case!
—Val Smith
Make Copies Early
I send my fall copies in ahead of time so I have them ready to go the first week of school. I also keep a box of "first week" needed Items handy. Then when I find something I need for the first week or so, I put it in the box and I don't have to dig for it.
—Gretchen Heil
Pack Well
I close out my room well. I am tired and just want to shove things in places and get the heck out, but when I do a good job of packing up, it makes coming back to school much better.
—Erin Cramer
Become a fan of Facebook.com/NEAtoday to share your ideas, get updates from NEA, and connect with colleagues.


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Vermicomposting is great way to compost if you have limited outdoor space or live in an apartment or condominium. Vermicomposting uses earthworms, usually red wigglers, to turn organic waste into high quality compost consisting of worm castings, uneaten bedding, and feedstock harvested from worm beds.
You can make your own Vermicomposting kit with the following list of supplies and tools or purchase a kit from a retailer:
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|Anything Green (especially the leafy stuff)
|Citrus (no orange, lemon, or lime)
|Fats, Oils & Salad Dressings
|Breads & Cereals
|Coffee Grounds & Filters
|Salts (no seasoned food)
|Tea Bags
|Black & White Newspaper
|Sugars (no processed food)
|Eggshells (crushed)
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Orange County Solid Waste Management teaches public composting classes in the spring and fall. The classes teach the basics or indoor composting using worms, and outdoor composting using a variety of recipes and structures.
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- Abbreviations
Lists of Entries: District of Columbia
- Maryland - Virginia
Personnel files and some recent files are not available to the
Researchers should note that there is no central register
of genealogical data in the Episcopal Church. Such records are
held by individual parishes. The only such data held by the
diocesan archives are those for some twenty closed parishes.
Records for parishes existing before 1895 are held by the Diocese
of Maryland Archives in Baltimore. Most records of colonial
parishes are held by the Hall of Records, the State Archives,
in Annapolis.
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There is a computer catalog for all volumes in the collection,
1800 to the present.
The archives also holds parish registers and vestry minutes
of some 20 closed parishes and missions. Records of active parishes
are held by the individual parishes. The diocese has no central
register of baptisms, marriages, or burials conducted in the
A computerized inventory which can be searched by folder title
and record date span is available for the entire collection.
A new system, which incorporates key word searching, is being
The Archivist is Mrs. Margaret D. Lewis, (202) 537-8981.
Hamer, Philip M., ed. A Guide to Archives and Manuscripts
in the United States. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press,
Inventory of Church Archives in the District of Columbia.
District of Columbia Historical Records Survey. Washington, DC:
District of Columbia Historical Records Review, 1940.
Inventory of Diocese of Washington Archives. Historical
Records Survey, Work Progress Administration. Washington, DC: Works
Progress Administration, 1930. (Outdated but contains valuable historical
National Union Catalog of Manuscript Collections.
The Library of Congress. Washington, DC: The Library of Congress,


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Lighting Principles for Game Design
Before we get into lighting for games specifically, I think it's important to talk about the art of traditional lighting. It won't do us any good to know the tools and procedures if we don't have a strong artistic foundation. There have been hundreds of books written with respect to lighting theory and methodology, so I'll do my best to just touch on the most important aspects in this chapter. But I encourage you to research and learn as much about lighting as you possibly can.
Remember that everything we see around us is light. When you see an apple, you aren't seeing an apple, you are seeing the light that is reflected and bounced off the surface of that apple. Without light, the visual world as we know it does not exist. So, when you as an artist are put in the position of playing God, "Let there be light!," you'd better know what you are doing! Lighting plays a pivotal role in creating atmosphere and mood in a scene. Think about stage lighting for a play, or a dramatic film noir-style movie. Lighting alone can conjure feelings and emotions, tell a story, or even drastically change the meaning of what you are seeing.
Unless you give your characters and environments appropriate lighting, you can easily blow out and flatten the entire scene, essentially hiding all the beautiful work you have done so far. Whether you are lighting for stage, photography, film, or 3D, the primary function of lighting is to give form to the objects in the scene. The form of a three-dimensional object can be either revealed or hidden depending on how the light hits the object and at what angle with respect to the camera. Keep in mind that defining and highlighting form is the first thing you should think about when lighting. In addition to the primary purpose of defining shape, light can be a story-telling medium, affecting mood, form, color, intensity, and movement. Let's start by talking about color.
Color plays a powerful role in defining mood in a scene. We as artists all know about warm colors and cool colors, complimentary colors, and so on. But the important thing to think about is how color affects the viewer. We tend to instantly fall into the trap of cliché: Red means hot and dangerous; blue means cool and safe. There is no doubt that these colors can evoke those particular emotions and feelings if presented properly, but it is important to remember that you as an artist can evoke any emotion you want with any color. It's about defining rules within your scene and making distinct associations. Look at the movie The Matrix as an example. Using two simple hues, blue and green, we the audience were subtly taught whether a scene was taking place in the Matrix or in the real world. Adding that color information, whether you noticed it or not, really helped hold the story together and defined a rule that we were more than happy to follow.
Target Audience
Another aspect of color that you should think about when lighting your scene is your target audience. To most Americans, the color red typically conveys emotions of danger and immediacy. But in China, red conveys happy celebration and evokes entirely different emotions.
To us, white is associated with purity and joy, wedding dresses and baby clothes. In China, white means death. Funeral attire in China is typically white.
Knowing your audience is important to all aspects of artwork, but choosing the right colors with which to light your scene increases your chances of conveying the feeling you want. So you can see that culture and audience play a significant part in choosing color and evoking specific emotions. Figure 7.1 shows an example of the use of red that would work with an American audience.
Figure 7.1 A screenshot from RTX Red Rock using the color red to convey a sense of urgency.
Balancing Color
Choosing the right colors in a scene has to be a balancing act. For those of you who have taken color theory and design classes, you know how dramatic an effect colors can have on one another when seen together. Too many powerful colors and the visual impact becomes chaotic and over-stimulating. Too little, and the work is drab and boring. When lighting, look at your scene as an individual piece of artwork. Be sure your colors are balanced and chosen carefully. Use colors that work well together and don't conflict (unless you want to convey a conflicting situation or emotion). Try to choose and commit to a specific set of colors (color scheme) in your scene that represents the mood you want your audience to feel. Pay close attention to the color scheme of your textures and choose light color accordingly. Figure 7.2 shows a subtle yet effective choice of colors. Notice how color is shared among objects and balanced in the room.
Figure 7.2 A subtle and pleasing balance of color in Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic.


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Global alpinists rely on MSR's DragonFly Stove because it works with a variety of fuels found across the world, and its precise performance lets you boil some snow or simmer at the twist of a knob. Its tough, stable design excels in guide service scenarios since it can handle pots as large as ten inches. The dual-valve design delivers specific flames ranging from simmer to boil. Shaker Jet technology lets you clean and maintain the DragonFly in the middle of your trip, at the campsite.
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February 28, 2018
backcountry chef
Cooking in the backcountry is so much better with a stove that can actually cook food. If you want more than boiling water for freeze dried meals I would highly recommend this stove. Paired with some creative packing and a little time reading some good cookbooks and you are all set.
Lisa Edlund
January 7, 2018
Jet Engine that can do anything!
- Familiarity:
- I've put it through the wringer
This is my go to stove for any adventure. I have the older model and have used since 2010 and still use it. Love that you use multi fuel and you have the shaker jet to clean out carbon build up, it which is so handy. This is the only stove that I have used on expeditions that can truly simmer and you can really cook anything! Only draw back is it sounds like a Jet Engine so when you light this stove up everyone will know that your cooking. But lets be honest this stove is durable, versatile, and you can cook like you were at home. so all in all its a small price to pay. Anyone that wants a serious stove to cook for Groups or Gourmet back country food, this is the stove to get!!!
Nick Gray
June 5, 2017
Heavy User
- Familiarity:
- I've put it through the wringer
I am purchasing this to replace an older Dragonfly that was lost. Used heavily and this is a bomber stove. You can actually achieve a true summer! Looking forward to the updated pump design. Contrary to other reviews, i have never experienced issues with a fuel line leak. Great stove!
Zak Farrington
March 13, 2017
Bomb Proof
- Familiarity:
- I've put it through the wringer
I have used primus, whisper lites and others and this is the only stove that has never let me down. I have been all over the Cascades in all types of weather in all 4 seasons. About 15 years ago I got the dragonfly and while it is loud when on full blast it has never failed and can be adjusted to boil or simmer. I belong to a local Boy Scout Troop and kids in the troop who hike are also buying the dragon fly because they see its power and reliability. It has become a status symbol in our troop and the old kids who hike either have one or borrow them for trips.
Bill Dunnell
December 20, 2016
I can't hear you!
- Familiarity:
- I've used it several times
This stove cooks well but is loud. I have the whisperlite and dragonfly. They are both great stoves. But I choose the whisperlite over this one simply because of sound. I enjoy conversation while cooking!
Tori Plunkett
September 18, 2016
Lots of noise, no heat
- Familiarity:
- I've used it several times
Not sure if the unit I got was typical, but I can't believe a product like the one I got would be sold by MSR since the other MSR products that I have are super. The stove make so much noise you couldn't hear anyone talk, and it heated stuff real slow. The slow and low heat was such you could pay fry biscuits for 20 minutes at high level and the biscuits didn't even get brown on the bottom. But it did make a rip roaring noise, our joke was the MSR marketing guys thought a dunb@@@ backpacking would think it was making so much noise it had to be working good.
William Terry B.
February 16, 2015
Gear up, go play, eat like a king
That little black baggie in the middle? Yea, that's the stove. That's it: stove, pump, fix it kit, and metal heat shields. Gear shown for scale and cuz who doesn't like gear eh?
Ben Stone
February 16, 2015
MSR Ready For Takoff
Was looking for an easy way to expose my city mouse of a girlfriend to big mountains. Dinner date! Took her up on Rainier and was able to cook a 3 course meal PLUS dessert. Try doing that in a jetboil! The Dragonfly is freakin magic, I can simmer rice, boil water like a champ, get those intant mashpotatos just right, and all without burning the tar out of my food. I have even been able to pull of popcorn (sorta) by doing small continuous circles over the burner. Anything you can cook at home you can cook on this stove, and it will taste way better! (cuz you're outdoors, duh) Only snafu is the noise. Joke that MSR 32oz is ready for take off after priming and prepare to have all conversation squelched. Small price to pay for being the Gordon Ramsay of the backcountry.
Ben Stone
February 2, 2015
Great High-Altitude stove
I've had one of these for several years and our climbing teams used them exclusively on Aconcagua and Denali, as well as numerous Colorado 14'ers and the Dragonfly's never let us down, whether it was melting snow for water or cooking a meal. I highly recommend this stove.
William F.
July 18, 2014
This stove is a champ!
Melting snow on Mt. Shasta
July 18, 2014
This stove is a champ!
- Familiarity:
- I've put it through the wringer
I've had this stove for over 10 years and absolutely love it! I used it many times when I was in Scouts and have been using it a lot again in the last few years. Despite sitting dormant for probably several years in a row at one point (And never being serviced, like... ever. No new O-rings, no lube, nothing. Yes, that does make me a bad stove owner.), it still lights up like a champ every time. The beast is loud for sure, but I've grown to love the sound. It boils water quickly and is surprisingly gentle on the fuel consumption. I recently brought 2 of these on a 7-person, 3 night backpacking trip above 9000 ft, where we boiled endless amounts of water and I was amazed at how little fuel we used.
March 10, 2014
Love it!
- Familiarity:
- I've put it through the wringer
I've had this stove for over 9 years now. It's held up extremely well and is awesome in both winter and summer. Sure, it's heavier than some stoves out there - but if you're out and about regularly it gives you the flexibility to cook ALL kinds of things rather than just heating water or soup. Sure freeze dried food is super great and you just CAN'T wait to hit the trail to eat that and ramen, right? Not me... sorry. I love that I can get creative with this stove. All in all, it's not THAT heavy. The stable cooking surface is great to keep things level and stable. Pots don't slip off, and you feel like you can cook for more than just yourself with ease. All in all a totally awesome stove.
Lauren - Dahli and Nate
February 8, 2014
- Familiarity:
- I've put it through the wringer
First off, I love this stove. If you can justify the weight, get it. It will do everything, and is great for larger pots. The shaker-jet is a nice feature. No downside other than the weight. Oh, and the fact that you have to practice with this thing. Make sure you practice in daylight. The first time I tried to light this thing was during a torrential downpour, in the dark. I couldn't see if I had primed it enough and was leaning over to check when my impatient buddy, not realizing what I was doing, went to light it. A giant fireball resulted, eating my eyebrows, and leaving a permanent "dent" in my hairline. Seriously, I have a dime sized chunk out of the front of my hairline. Another guy smelled the burning hair twenty feet away, and came to investigate. Thankfully my eyebrows grew back. Moral of the story: practice! All joking aside though, this thing cooks like a boss, and is great for large groups. Add one to your pack, and you won't be sorry.
David Dombrowski
November 9, 2013
Great stove
- Familiarity:
- I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
After a lot of research, I settled on the dragonfly. It is easy to use and seems fairly durable for a lightweight stove.
Jacquelyn H.
November 3, 2013
simmering away
2.5 hour pot of the best mixed bean soup. This stove is the best.
Ken T
October 21, 2013
Top stove
- Familiarity:
- I've used it several times
Just went camping with my stove that hadn't been used for two years, and before that it'd only been used a few times over the 7 years I've had it. Make sure you take the spare o-rings and lube with you when you go away. My pump had three dried out o-rings, and wouldnt work. I'd forgotten to take my annual maintenance or expedition service kit with me, so couldnt use the stove (I had a pocket rocket as back up anyway). So if you buy the stove, but the expedition service kit too. You don't need to take the whole kit with you, but a few o-rings and the little tool are worth having .
June 25, 2013
Restating the facts...
- Familiarity:
- I've used it several times
I'm probably reiterating what you already know, but this stove is a boss. It is louder than all get out, but it simmers like a pro. I find it is far too heavy and bulky for alpine climbs, but nothing beats it for an "advanced base camp". If you are planning on cooking meals that requiring simmering, look no further as this stove is king. Many silencers are available, but the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
May 23, 2013
Despite the pictures, no bottle included
Despite the pictures, this does not come with a fuel bottle, it's just the stove head. You need to buy a bottle for it. This is twice now that Backcountry.com has not delivered on what is pictured for me.
Drew B.
March 14, 2015
just look on description of product what is included in price tag
Mark Alan
November 28, 2015
Second that about looking at the description. I did lots of research on stoves before I decided on the Dragonfly. And inevitably there were lots of people giving bad product reviews; in particular on Amazon. Just on the fact that this stove (and NONE of the MSR stoves) include a fuel bottle!! Ridiculous! There's a reason why. There are 3 different fuel bottle sizes available. It's up to YOU to decide how much fuel you need or want to bring. So everything EXCEPT for the fuel bottle is included. Then you simply decide if you need fuel for a day, weekend or weeklong trip and order the bottle based on that. VERY simple and makes sense to me. And as the other poster stated, JUST LOOK ON THE DESCRIPTION OF THE PRODUCT TO SEE WHAT IS INCLUDED! Simple as that. But don't leave a bad PRODUCT review when you don't bother to read! Use the product and let us know how it worked. That's why it's called a PRODUCT review.
June 16, 2018
It never stated that it came with a bottle.
April 25, 2013
Awesome stove!
- Familiarity:
- I've put it through the wringer
I've owned this stove now for over 11 years! It was one of my first backpacking purchases and it has been through the ringer. I'm not exactly sure how many times I've used it in how many different places, but it has worked perfectly for me at temps as low as -15 and as warm as 105. I keep wanting to get a Jet Boil for just water boiling, but I remember I have this and it's extra boiling power is worth the weight. This fits a lot larger pot than the J.B. making it prime for expedition style trips. The fuel bottles last, and I like how I can fill them according to the task at hand if I'm serious enough on weight. Oh, and this stove will burn just about any kind of fuel, another cool feature (that maybe isn't as cool today as it was 11 years ago for me).The only thing I have had to replace on it was typical nozzle heads, o-rings and every few years a new $25 pump because liquid gas corrodes the plastic over time. I am willing to bet this thing will last me another 11 years. Great Product, MSR!
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December 25, 2018
How small a pot/pan can I use on this stove? I'm worried my camp cookware is much too small for this thing.
Monica W.
Aaron Ashton
December 29, 2018
Hi Monica, The prongs collapse in the middle to pack better and can be left like that for even smaller cookware. But it is a pretty small stove so you should be good!
August 3, 2015
What components do I need to have it running ? Is it just the stove + separate fuel bottle ? Is the 'pressurizing pump' part of the stove, or is it another thing that I have to buy ?
William P.
August 3, 2015
All you need is the fuel bottle and fuel. Comes with everything else you need.
March 7, 2015
Will the MSR Dragonfly work with the MSR IsoPro fuel canisters?
Angus Bohanon
March 8, 2015
Definitely not. Not only is there no fitting for it to connect, but the Dragonfly requires liquid, unpressurized fuel. Its function relies on it. The pressurized propane/isobutane blend in the IsoPro canisters would turn this into more of a blowtorch than a stove, even if you could connect it.
February 9, 2012
Does anybody own this stove Along with the...
Does anybody own this stove Along with the MSR XGK EX, which do you prefer?
Zach Perry
Thomas Ogasawara
February 9, 2012
In my experience the XGK boils water faster, but this is far more compact. Overall I prefer this.
Phil Maher
February 10, 2012
You can actually cook and control your flame on the Dragonfly...better all around stove for most practical uses. The XGK EX is pretty much just a jet engine that melts snow and boils water fast. Another good stove is the Primus Omni-Fuel (it will burn multiple fuels, including canisters...handy at times).
August 21, 2011
How does the dragonfly compare the XGK for...
How does the dragonfly compare the XGK for reliability and winter use?
Evan Tougas
August 21, 2011
Very good!! I have used both for many years in various conditions and can vouch for the Dragonfly
March 1, 2011
Has anyone tried blending fuels? Like...
Has anyone tried blending fuels? Like maybe mixing white gas and unleaded auto fuel? I was thinking a blend or different fuels might throw more heat, any thoughts?
Phil Maher
March 1, 2011
Hey Craig, Pretty cool question. I've never tried it, but here are my thoughts- First, you're sort of limited to mixtures because of the 2 different jets involved, but the same jet for white gas is used for unleaded gasoline. The white gas fuels made by companies like Coleman and MSR are already blended for optimal performance, so that means they're already going to be the cleanest and hottest burning. Gasoline is filthy and dangerously volatile [explosive]...over prime, and you have a fireball that doesn't go down easily. Spill it, and you'll live with it for days, at best, and at worst, you have an uncontrollable fireball that will possibly leave you no other choice but to run from. Jet fuel is even more dangerous. Diesel and kerosene are nasty fuels in terms of how dirty they burn, even more so than gasoline...filthy, stinky, clogs your stove really fast, shortens the life of the stove. Not to mention the oily residue and soot from the smoke is foul. These multi-fuel stoves burn multiple fuels solely for reasons of convenience and availability on a global basis, but still, I'm of the opinion that you won't get a much better/hotter/cleaner burning stove fuel than a good quality white gas. Hope that helped. Here's a cool link: http://zenstoves.net/Petrol.htm#Fuels
October 12, 2010
How does this stove do for a large group...
How does this stove do for a large group pot, like a 3 liter plus?
Bill M.
October 13, 2010
The Dragonfly was designed more for larger parties than for solo use even though it works well for both. It has wide & stable pot supports that accommodates larger cookware. This stove can even handle medium size cast iron skillets. The burner head's flame spreader produces a nice, even flame on the bottom of the pot/pan. For these reasons, the Dragonfly is the preferred backcountry stove by many outfitters.
October 6, 2010
Write your question here.. Will the DragonFly...
Write your question here.. Will the DragonFly / DragonFly pump work with Brunton fuel bottles?
Jason Livingston
October 6, 2010
I would recommend against it. MSR's fuel bottles are made to exacting standards, making sure that there is a complete seal. By taking a chance with another brand of fuel bottle opens the door to possible leaks and issues that might cause a fire or worse. I would highly recommend that if you are using an MSR liquid fuel stove that you purchase an MSR fuel bottle.
Phil Maher
October 6, 2010
I'll throw my lot in with Jason on this one. The thread pitches are slightly different.
October 9, 2010
All fuel bottles are made to "exacting standards" to their specific stoves. This is why I always recommend using the same brand fuel bottles. Brunton bottles will work but the threads are slightly different which could possibly cause a fire due to escaping fuel & fumes. This could also cause a loss of pressure. Perform a cold test @ home by pressurizing the Brunton fuel bottle. Then check for leaks. It's all about safety & peace of mind.
August 30, 2010
Can I use denatured alcohol as fuel in...
Can I use denatured alcohol as fuel in this stove? If not why? Thanks
Randall B.
Phil Maher
August 30, 2010
No, but it can be used for preheating by pouring/squirting a bit into the burner cup. The stove isn't jetted for it, and all the fuels that the Dragonfly will burn release much more energy during combustion. With about 50% less energy per ounce than white gas, alcohol will take about twice as long to heat your food/water, and isn't good for group cooking, which the Dragonfly excels at. The flame it produces is almost invisible, which makes it hard to judge flame setting or any problems. Denatured alcohol also doesn't vaporize well in cold temperatures, and that would make for a very inefficient stove under many of the intended use conditions. I think that about covers it, but I'm dying to see what other input comes along. Very cool question! Thanks!
August 31, 2010
Phil is correct. The DragonFly burns many different types of liquid fuel but not alcohol of any kind. There are two main reasons for this: 1. Alcohol doesn't pressurize like refined fossil fuels which is one of the most important factors for burning, heat being the other. This is why pre-heating is such an important factor with pressurized stoves. 2. Alcohol needs oxygen to attain higher BTU's. This being the case, it burns more efficiently in an open/ventilated environment. BTW, Trangia makes an alcohol stove that when heated on the bottom while burning, produces much higher BTU's than when not being heated. Still not @ the level of pressurized stoves.
May 18, 2011
Look at alcohol as part of a cooking "system" to judge whether it's right for your trip. And consider your conditions. The above descriptions of alky are correct, but it's a great choice under the right conditions. You can make a supercat stove for near Zero cost and a few ounces in weight, plus the denatured alcohol can be carried in a plastic water bottle. You'll burn 1oz of fuel to boil 2 cups of water in 8-10minutes. You can also create a simmer ring to extend the same 1oz for 20 minutes of simmer. I've pushed the cold temp limitations by warming the fuel bottle inside my jacket and by using an insulated bottom plate. That said, it's not intended for temps below freezing. It will also experience issues at higher altitudes attempting to reach "boil". As a one-person, 3-three season system, for under 4-5 days, it doesn't get lighter.
Gary Glazer
June 22, 2011
Write your answer here...In addition to the previous, perfectly correct replies, alcohol has a pH well above 7; it eats aluminum and titanium fuel bottles.
August 20, 2010
what is the wick for? i see the point of...
what is the wick for? i see the point of the wick on my whisperlite but i don't see what the wick does in this design
Michael S.
August 22, 2010
There are no wicks in these stoves. I think what you're seeing is the tip of the metal fuel line cable inside the fuel line. Wicks are used in self-pressurizing stoves but not pump stoves.
August 23, 2010
The wick is used during preheating when you start the Dragonfly. Some of the priming fuel soaks the wick, and the wick also makes it easier to light as one end is near a hole that you can poke a match into.
August 24, 2010
Cary is correct, there is a wick on the International strictly for preheating but not the standard Whisperlite. Self-pressurizing stoves use wicks to draw fuel to the jet/nipple when heated. Stoves with pumps accomplish this by pressurizing the fuel bottle/tank & forcing fuel to the same orifice. This is what I thought you were referring to. I certainly hope this adds to the overall understanding.
August 1, 2010
Hi. I've had my whisperlite for quite a...
Hi. I've had my whisperlite for quite a while and it's been great. When the burner snapped off the swing-arm weld MSR put me in touch with the UK importer who swapped it for an improved bit within days. My question is about pot compatibility. I noticed somebody asked about sizes before, but I was wondering if any of you have a titanium pot set you manage to nest the stove inside for transporting? I'm looking for something 1.3 to 1.5l I think, with a pan style lid in Titanium. If anyone has a tried and tested setup I'd be keen to hear about it. Cheers, Pete
Phil Maher
August 1, 2010
Whisperlite or Dragonfly? Have a look at the Snow Peak Trek 1400 (item# SNO0031) for the Whisperlite (4x4x4" folded), but the Dragonfly won't fit.
July 20, 2010
I guess what I was trying to find is Fuel...
I guess what I was trying to find is Fuel and Butane gas stove. Do such exist other then Coleman which is not that good?
Igor Bekker
Phil Maher
July 20, 2010
Igor, Have a look at the Primus Omnifuel (item #PMS0001). It will work with both liquid fuels and canisters. MSR makes great stoves, but they only make stoves that will run on one or the other, not both. Really, if I knew of a better alternative, I would gladly point you in that direction.
July 20, 2010
You might want to look @ the Brunton Vapor: http://www.backcountry.com/outdoorgear/Brunton-Vapor-All-Fuel-Stove/BRU0119M.html This is also a true multi-fuel stove & you don't have to change jets to change fuels.
July 19, 2010
I am looking for a multi-fuel stove and I...
I am looking for a multi-fuel stove and I cant deceive what to pick. the DragonFly, Optimus Nova Plus Stove, MSR XGK EX or MSR WhisperLite International 1) What the difference between each one? 2) Can I use ANY Brand (coleman, jetboil, etc) canisters? 3) Do I need to buy any special parts for the stove to work with liquid fuel? 4) What other replacement parts should I get right away that break most often? thank you Igor
Igor Bekker
Igor Bekker
July 19, 2010
From the spec it looks like they burn any type of liquid fuel and gas. The most types of fuel I'll use is gas canisters from either Jetboil or Coleman and canister fuel that you can easily get in Walmart. Will i still have to switch nozzles? thanks.
Phil Maher
July 19, 2010
No, they don't. The stoves you mention only burn multiple liquid fuels (ie: white gas, kerosene, diesel, unleaded gasoline). And even if they did burn canister gas, it wouldn't be compatable with the Coleman propane cylinders that you buy at Walmart. The fitting for almost all canister stoves is a Lindal valve, which those big green canisters don't have. If you're looking for a true multi-fuel expedition quality stove with canister capabilities, the Primus Omnifuel is the one. If you're primarily interested in a canister fuel stove, I would strongly urge you to consider the Brunton Vesta. It gives you the ability to invert the canister and change the fuel feed from purely gas to liquid, thereby avoiding the problems associated with using canister fuels in colder temperatures. Reread the specs, but for what it's worth, I own and like my Dragonfly immensely for when I need to use larger pots for several people.
July 31, 2010
Neither of MSR stoves you mentioned would burn gas (meaning propane-like fuel), they will only burn gasoline-like fuel, that is liquid. So if you want to stick with canister-based propane-like fuels choose canister based stoves (MSR or Primus have enough of those). As to differences - WHisperLight can't simmer (which is critical if you want more than just to boil water or to avoid dancing around the stove to avoid burning any food thicker than water), DragonFly is more expensive and almost twice heavier than WhisperLight International (important if you need more than camping near your car), XGK is a little heavier than WhisperLight and significantly more expensive but does what one needs on backpacing trip. Neither needs any special parts upfront and all are prety reliable. The first part that might need possible care is a pump but if once in a year you put a drop of oil into it there should not be any problems for a long time. Again, these stoves are not built for working on both gas\propane and luquid fuel. Not even sure if there are other stoves that can but, frankly, I would not think its worth of trying to find some special parts\converters that would allow that as you would need to carry it with you and then trust some sort of contruption on a trip where reliable stove is critical. And if its for a camping near a lodge or car than why care about those multiple choices - the canisters are readily available in regular stores as is the gasoline or gasolne-like fuels.
June 15, 2010
Matt B.
June 15, 2010
The U.S. of freakin' A. ! You're gosh dang right it is! 4000 1st Avenue South Seattle, WA 98134 U.S.A. to be exact.
April 23, 2010
When I pump up my dragonfly, the pump seems...
When I pump up my dragonfly, the pump seems to develop pressure fine, but once I release valves and try to get fuel in to prime the stove, all I get is a hissing sound and no liquid fuel, and the pressure drops quickly. I've cleared the jet, and unscrewed and cleaned everything else - even replaced the tiny filter, but nothing seems to help.
April 23, 2010
Make sure the filter tube on your pump is in the liquid fuel & the check valve is above the fuel & sucking air. Both the new & old pumps work the same way as far as air & fuel mix is concerned. FYI, the older design pumps have a second, smaller tube near the bottom by the check valve that draws air into the pump chamber/housing.
Jason Livingston
April 23, 2010
Usually when these problems present themselves it's due to faulty O-rings. One of the more critical is located in the pump where the On/Off valve is located. My recommendation would be to replace all of the O-rings in the pump and lube each of the O-rings with a small amount of silicon lube (included with the stove and any maintenance kit). This will insure a good seal on all of these O-rings. The MSR Annual Maintenance Kit will have everything you need to revive the pump and get it working again.
April 22, 2010
does it come with the fuel pump
does it come with the fuel pump
Mike Traslin
April 22, 2010
Yes it comes with a fuel pump. The fuel bottle you have to buy!
August 1, 2010
This stove includes the newer, Dragonfly specific fuel pump. MSR changed over almost eight years ago for better simmer control.
April 18, 2009
Has anyone ever used unleaded fuel in this...
Has anyone ever used unleaded fuel in this stove. Won't be often but might hafta everynow and then...
April 21, 2009
I used premium unleaded with out a problem. I'm sure the regular stuff would work just as well. Plus it only cost about 60 cents to fill my liter bottle!
April 25, 2009
thanks yo...
Andrew Brittlebank
August 31, 2009
Never use anything but regular unleaded. No problem.
West Howland
November 19, 2009
I have successfully used unleaded (regular, mid, and premium), diesel, and kerosene, along with the standard white gas. works great, just doesn't burn quite as cleanly during startup.
May 14, 2011
The lowest octane gas you can get will be the most volatile and easiest to light. High octane is for race cars.
May 14, 2011
High octane takes more heat to ignite and has less energy content its counter intuitive to what you would think a race car would want. For a stove lower octane gas will light easier and contain more btu's. Most of the higher octane pump fuel has alot of alcohol to increase octane
August 19, 2008
does this stove come with a fuel pump?
does this stove come with a fuel pump?
November 2, 2008
This stove was upgraded to the newer fuel pump almost six years ago for better simmer control.
Matt Tovar
March 30, 2009
yep, my friend has one, and it comes with a fuel pump, to me it is kind od annoying to pump the fuel before you can cook anything. adios
West Howland
November 19, 2009
All MSR stoves come with their own fuel pump. That being said replacements are available, as are parts and maintenance kits for field repairs.
April 26, 2008
What's the smallest pot the Dragonfly will...
What's the smallest pot the Dragonfly will fit into? Will it fit into the 1.5 Litre pots sold on this site?
Taylor Heaps
October 21, 2008
The dragonfly body folded up is about as big as say the bottom 3-4 inches of a nalgene, but the metal tube that serves as the attachment point for the fuel hose and regulator sort of sticks out about 2-3 more inches at a funny (twistable) angle which adds a more difficult to pack element. It does swivel within about a 135 degree arc so with some creative packing you might be able to make it work. In general I'd say a medium and up pot would fit it fairly well.Also, MSR's Alpine cookset is designed so that all of their stoves can nest neatly inside. It may be work a look if you are concerned about nesting.
September 2, 2009
According to the MSR Cookware FAQ on their website, the Dragonfly won't fit into a pot smaller than 2L. I have the Alpine 4 pot set and my Dragonfly definitely fits in the 2L pot, but I can't imagine it fitting into anything smaller.
October 11, 2009
7-7.5" wide pot by at least 3.5" tall


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