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KMeleonWiki > Welcome > FAQ
(Portions of this page are outdated, but the forum can help too)
K-Meleon is an extremely fast, customizable, lightweight web browser based on the Gecko layout engine developed by Mozilla which is also used by Firefox. K-Meleon is free, open-source software released under the GNU General Public License.
K-Meleon is designed specifically for Microsoft Windows (Win32) operating systems, and also runs on Win64. There are no plans to port K-Meleon to other platforms.
But you can try running it under Wine on Linux, or try Fred's Unofficial K-Meleon variations (currently outdated) which he uses under wine, and there is an own little department in the KM forum for Linux Users.
Otherwise, if you are looking for a Gecko-based browser for Linux, visit the Galeon project. Camino is a Gecko-based browser for Mac OS X.
Since version 74 K-Meleon only runs on Windows XP SP2 or newer systems.
Necessary hard-disk space for current version is 70MB, more info in the Release Notes 75.
Older versions for legacy systems can be found on the Download page, and tips in the forum.
Please consult the release notes for that particular version of K-Meleon, and the download page for notes about the minor version changes (mostly new gecko engines and bug fixes).
K-Meleon75 is now based on Mozilla ESR31 and brought improvements to easier adapt more xpi-addons for Firefox. Installed xpi-addons can be managed when typing into the URL bar 'about:addons'. It's also possible now to split the tab bar into multiple lines. The menu bar is now hidden by default, but can be switched on again with the gear button >View >Toolbars >Menu, or right-click in a free space in toolbars. Instead the Privacy Toolbar with quick toggles for javascript, cookies, popups etc. is now shown by default, but can be hidden again the same way. The native macro for switching user agents has been removed, but users can still install it themselves, there are even several ones now to choose from. The default start page has been modernized, with just a search field and a few quick links, to last session etc.
There is also a new default skin system in 75 that can auto-scale button icons, and can have icons and plain text together in one button (Privacy Bar).
(This system is a bit more difficult to customize, and a very good idea to first copy over the file 'toolbars.cfg' from KM/browser/defaults/settings into KM/skins/default. To change the toolbar background put any picture as 'back.bmp' into the active skin folder and enable it in preferences (F2>GUI). The traditional skin system still works too, you can simply copy over your favorite old skin folder. In any case it's a good idea to first create own folders for customizing skins.)
Please consult the release notes for the particular version of K-Meleon you want to install/uninstall.
Either at setup, or later with Edit > Preferences (F2) > Browsing, click "Set as Default Browser" (in old versions that also offers the "Use Loader" option again).
Note: In obsolete K-Meleon 1.5.x the set-default routine is outdated, it works only up to XP-SP2 correctly. If you're on a newer Windows and use KM1.5.x please read HERE.
Yes, if it is a current version. K-Meleon uses the Gecko rendering engine developed by Mozilla, which is also used by Firefox. Gecko provides excellent support for current (X)HTML, CSS and DOM standards.
Yes. K-Meleon 1.1 provides SSL (version 3) and TLS support.
Yes, since K-Meleon 1.5 true tabs are used instead of 'layered' windows. Layer macros are obsolete and it is strongly recommended to not add them in modern versions.
Since K-Meleon75 you can split a large number of tabs in multiple rows.
Configuration is in Edit>Preferences (F2) >Browsing >Tabbed Browsing > Tab Bar
Yes. To run Java applets in K-Meleon, you have to install the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). Once installed, K-Meleon automatically detects your JRE installation and no other configuration is necessary. You can download the JRE from the Java website. To see if the JRE is properly installed, open Help > About Plugins. If you see the Java Plug-in listed, K-Meleon properly recognizes the JRE.
There are quick toggles for Java on the Privacy Toolbar and in Tools>Privacy.
Note: Java may not work when you change K-Meleon's browser identification (UserAgent) string.
Obsolete, this feature was removed since K-Meleon74.
(Old versions: The K-Meleon Loader preloads portions of the K-Meleon browser and thus allows it to launch more quickly - especially on low-end hardware. Be aware that the K-Meleon browser keeps running as long as the K-Meleon Loader is running. Some changes to the configuration of K-Meleon will not take effect until you close and restart the browser. When using it, you also have to close and restart the Loader to make such changes take effect. Review the details here.)
Important: Some websites will not work fully if you're blocking things like javascript, cookies etc. See below.
If you prefer to keep such blocks as global setting, you can add frequently visited sites to your personal Exceptions, a black/white list. You can "allow" or "block" certain sites there, as exception from your global settings. Exceptions for cookies, popups and images can be set in Tools > Privacy > Permissions. For other things, like javascript, you can install the optional extension called "Policies Manager", or manually edit the exceptions file in your profile folder: hostperm.1 Also see Configurable Security Policies for more details on advanced privacy features.
But you can also just toggle the global settings for a moment if needed (menu Tools > Privacy). For example if it's an unknown website which requires more permissions, and you decide to allow it, but not permanently. If that happens often, you may want to switch on the Privacy Toolbar (View > Toolbars), which contains buttons for most of the entries in the Privacy menu, incl. Kill and Clear commands. Not all buttons are visible by default, to show more or less of them look above.
K-Meleon is intended to be a fast, customizable, lightweight web browser. It is designed to be a browser only, not a suite. Thus, it does not include features such as an e-mail client or a web page editor, which could bloat and slow K-Meleon down. Users are encouraged to use their favorite applications for these and other particular purposes. The K-Meleon developers will consider enhancements that improve the performance and usefulness of the browser.
The first time K-Meleon is run with the Netscape Bookmark Plugin enabled, it automatically creates a new bookmarks file in your profile directory. You also have the possibility of using your existing Firefox, Netscape or Mozilla bookmarks file in K-Meleon. Open Edit > Preferences > K-Meleon Plugins > Netscape Bookmarks and go to the Netscape Bookmarks File section. Click on Browse. This is where you can set the location of your bookmarks file. Specify the location of your existing Netscape, Mozilla/SeaMonkey or Firefox bookmarks file here.
Mozilla/SeaMonkey, Netscape and Firefox store their bookmarks file in their profile directory. Its location depends on your operating system. The following example is for the Mozilla/SeaMonkey profile directory:
Netscape creates its own folder in the same folder that contains the Mozilla folder. Firefox creates its folder within the Mozilla folder.
Note: K-Meleon's bookmarks plugin does currently not support Firefox's live bookmarks and favicons. Firefox3 uses a new system for bookmarks. To get a copy in the traditional (KM-compatible) style, open Firefox and click Bookmarks > Organize > Import and Backup > Export HTML
K-Meleon's IE Favorites Plugin automatically locates and uses your Favorites. This plugin does not import your Favorites, it allows you to share your Favorites between K-Meleon and Internet Explorer!
K-Meleon's Netscape Bookmark Plugin allows you to import your Favorites into your bookmarks file. Choose Bookmarks > Edit... and then press Import Favorites.
The first time K-Meleon is run with the Opera Hotlist Plugin enabled, it will automatically create a new empty hotlist file in your profile directory. You also have the possibility of using your existing Opera hotlist file in K-Meleon. Open Edit > Preferences and go to the Plugins section. Select Opera Hotlist Plugin and press Configure.... This will open the Opera Hotlist Settings dialog where you can set the location of your hotlist file. Specify the location of your existing Opera hotlist file here.
Backup Favorites:
Click Favorites > Edit, this will open your file explorer. Right-click on your Favorites folder to copy and paste it elsewhere. If you see only the sub-folders, click the "Upwards" button first to get one level higher.
Backup Bookmarks or Hotlist:
If you use the default location, click Edit > Configuration > Profile Directory to open your currently used K-Meleon profile folder. Copy the file "bookmarks.html" or "opera.adr" (=hotlist) to any location you wish. To later restore, just copy it back.
You can also simply copy it renamed into the same folder, just keep in mind, if you accidentally delete this profile later, this backup would be lost too.
Backup Bookmarks or Hotlist with non-default path:
If you have set another path for your bookmarks or hotlist (perhaps to share them with another browser), click Bookmarks > Options or Hotlist > Options to find its location in the file field. Open your file explorer to copy and paste that file elsewhere.
(Highlight and right-click to copy that path. Open your file explorer, paste the path into the address line and crop the filename (after the last "\"), hit Enter to open that folder. Find your bookmarks or hotlist file there and copy it to another location. Tip: Or in the Options tab just click "Browse", right beside the path field, and paste the cropped folder name into the "filename" field to open that folder)
Bookmarks or Hotlist:
Open their menu and click Edit.... There is no search field, just start typing the word you want to find. To jump to the next one, hit F3.
(This works on-the-fly, already while you're typing it's jumping to the first matching bookmark. Note that only text in the first (x?) characters of a bookmark is found. Remember F3 means "Find Next" in most windows programs. Tip: Right-click on a bookmark for more options, e.g. to create subfolders.)
Click Favorites > Edit... The favorites folder will open in the file explorer of your system. As usual in windows programs now click Ctrl+F (or use menu) to search in it with your build-in file search. All hits will be listed together.
(You can also open a subfolder first, if you only want to search inside that one. Or right-click on a folder and find a Search command in the context menu, along with other options to rename or change the target URL etc. Note that this is just basic Windows stuff which has nothing to do with the browser, all KM does is call the file explorer. A double-click on a found Favorite will open it in the browser which you have set as default in your system.)
Edit your Bookmarks or Hotlist and fill in the Nick field of a folder. Then if you want to open all those pages later, just type the nick into the URL bar and press Return. Also works for single bookmarks, also for "Hotlist", but not "Favorites".
Hotlinks are provided through the Macro Extension Plugin and are in a way K-Meleon's own bookmarking system. Very simple, yet efficient. Through Tools > Hotlinks... you have the possibility to assign an URL to each of the key combinations Ctrl+0, Ctrl+1, ..., Ctrl+9.
Note that javascript: URLs (bookmarklets) usually won't have the desired effect when set to open in a new window/tab/layer.
Hotlinks are not stored in a separate file, they are part of prefs.js in your current profile folder.
Open Edit > Preferences (F2) and go to the Plugins section. Select the plugin in question and press Enable/Disable. A green checkbox background indicates that a plugin is currently loaded. Click on Macro Extension to find the list with checkboxes for single macros. Checked plugins and macros will be loaded next time K-Meleon starts.
K-Meleon automatically detects the Adobe Acrobat Reader, the Sun Java Runtime Environment, Apple QuickTime and Windows Media Player. Flash and Shockwave setup programs automatically detect K-Meleon.
If it's not working automatically, any Mozilla plugin should work by being copied into K-Meleon's plugins directory (not kplugins directory), which is located in the K-Meleon installation directory. You can check the status of any plugin by opening Help > About Plugins. All your plugins currently used by K-Meleon will be listed there. For more information please review the page about third party plugins.
It seems not all plugins work with K-Meleon. Read this forum thread for tips.
Yes. K-Meleon is very easy to skin. You can find quite a number of skins in the K-Meleon Themes Wiki. In order to install one, simply extract the provided ZIP archive into K-Meleon's skins directory (the files of the new skin must all end up in a new subdirectory of the skins directory). After a restart of K-Meleon, you can select the new skin in Edit > Preferences > GUI Appearance. Choose there also if you want icons in the menus (if provided by the skin), or an image as toolbar background.
Tip: the toolbars background you can customize freely, just take any image you like, open it in your image editor and save it as "back.bmp" into the folder of the current skin.
You have to restart K-Meleon for skin changes to take effect.
To add/remove menu entries, click Edit > Configuration > Menus.
Unlike toolbars and buttons, menus are independant from the chosen skin.
Single toolbars can be switched on or off in View > Toolbars
Have a look at the Privacy toolbar, if you often toggle javascript, cookies etc.
Have you already discovered the right-click menus on Go-button, Home- and other buttons? Lots of additional functions there.
To show or hide single buttons, click Edit > Configuration > Toolbars. Not as scary as it looks at first, just add or remove the #-comment-signs from the button lines.
(You can customize everything there, incl. create own buttons, new toolbars, or change left-click commands and right-click menus for every button. Because this "toolbars.cfg" file comes with the skin, it is also responsible for all the buttons it may contain and their associated functions - or which are missing. But you can always manually copy over button entries from other skins configs, if you make sure to also have a matching icon if needed, and the number of image lines must be the same inside a single toolbar.
Currently the most up-to-date list of available default commands can be found here.
You can also use macro commands for buttons, just ask in the forum for help if needed.)
Yes. Please review the page about command line options.
For example you can add " -new" in the shortcut to open a second browser instance that runs independendly with another profile, or simultaneously run different K-Meleon versions. Or include different profile versions in your shortcut icons. Or run KM in kiosk mode.
Yes. K-Meleon automatically attempts to recognize documents' character sets and display them properly. The browser's user interface is fully translatable since version 1.0 and supports multiple languages since version 1.1. Official localizations and language packages (to be installed additionally) can be found in the Download section. If you're interested in creating your own translation/localization, please refer to the Localization page.
TIP: Some websites offer different language versions, but depending on your browser settings. If you speak another language than english, check if you see the country flags under the menu on the left side here? Do they vanish if you click english? Then change this setting: Open "about:config" page, ignore the warning this time, and filter for "lang". This line is important:
"intl.accept_languages" Right-click and set it to something like "en-us, en, de, fr, es", depending on your languages, and the flags will show up again, and stay now.
Yes. Mouse accelerators such as MiddleClick, Ctrl+LeftClick, Ctrl+RightClick to open links in new (background) layers, can be configured quickly throug Tools > Mouse Accelerators. Simply choose the configuration that best fits your needs:
|Firefox 2.0
|SeaMonkey 1.1
|Opera 9.2
|Open in foreground
|Open in background
|Open in background
|Open in foreground
|Open in new window
|Save link target
|Open in foreground
|Open in foreground
|Open in foreground
|Open in background
|Open in foreground
|Open in background
|Open in foreground
|Open in background
|Open in background
|Open in background
|Open in foreground
|Open in foreground
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Open Edit > Preferences (F2) > Browsing > Window Diversion > Open: URLs passed from external applications > in a new tab
Now links clicked in emails, or local html-files opened by a file explorer will open in a new tab.
Change setting in menu Sessions > Options > Open the following session at startup > Previous Session.
Or right-click the Home-Button > Start with Session > Previous Session
If you prefer to open it manually only when needed: (more info in forum)
Either click the big button on the default home page (about:home)
or use menu Sessions > Load Session > Previous Session (or any other)
Key commands (accelerators) can be customized by editing the accel.cfg file in your profile folder. Choose Edit > Configuration > Accelerators to open it. Explanations can be found on the Configuration Files page.
K-Meleon 1.1 provides support for modular macros to ease up macro installation (before they were all in one big macros.cfg).
You can install a macro (a text file with extension kmm) by placing it in your user macros folder (open Edit > Configuration > User-defined Macros). If you have writing rights in your programs folder, you can also place them into the K-Meleon/macros folder, to work in all profiles. A few special macros even only work from there.
To enable/disable installed macros, open Edit > Preferences (F2) and go to Macro Extension.
User-submitted ready-made macros can be found in the macro library, the forum (K-Meleon Extensions etc.) and the extensions archives, see links in the Resources page.
(To uninstall completely, delete the kmm file and, if it was part of a more complex extension with several files, delete those too.
Today many macros (extensions, KM add-ons) are offered as zipped 7z-files, and some contain additional files for the tools folder or a styles folder etc., where they land automatically if you unzip them to the K-Meleon root folder. To unzip, either install 7zip or use one of the KM extensions managers for installation and uninstalling.
If you'd like to modify a macro yourself, open the kmm file in Notepad or another editor. Be very careful with the code syntax, but a few things are rather harmless like changing path names for files, modify or hide single menu entries, shortcut keys etc. Important for special characters: the kmm encoding must be UTF-8. Make a backup copy of the kmm first, and don't hesitate to ask in the forum if you have questions.)
Profiles can be added, deleted and renamed using the profile manager (click Edit > Manage Profiles...).
If you like you can create several different profiles for a user. When creating a new one, don't forget to check "Ask at Startup", that's important for the creation.
If you do not want your profile folders placed in your windows user appdata folder (multi-user profile), but inside the K-Meleon program folder (single-user/portable version), create an empty file "profile.ini" in the K-Meleon root-folder. Consider you must have writing rights there. That way there may still be created a folder "K-Meleon" in appdata, but it's not used and stays empty. Instead you'll find a brandnew profile folder in K-Meleon/Profiles.
For advanced profile customization, you might want to review the details on profile location
(By the way you can copy over the contents of one profile folder into another, like bookmarks.html, history, userContent.css etc. The file "prefs.js" holds all your personal settings that are different from default, and also your typed URL bar history, sessions etc., unless you have them disabled. This file actually consists of the bold entries that you see in about:config. You can edit it either there, or per menu (Preferences), or -if browser is closed- with Notepad etc.)
For detailed proxy configuration open Edit > Preferences and select Proxy. K-Meleon only accepts hostnames for manual proxies. For proxies such as Junkbuster that do not support the most recent HTTP specification, you can set K-Meleon to use HTTP 1.0 instead of 1.1 on the General tab in Preferences.
Through Tools > Proxy you can quickly switch between several proxy settings. Note that the custom proxy settings are currently limited to the HTTP protocol.
Edit > Preferences (F2) > Browsing > Tabbed Browsing. Several tab options there, click on tab "Tab Bar" to find the one for top or bottom position.
Often overlooked: You can also set your preferences there for left/middle/right-clicking on a tab, change it if e.g. you want to close tabs with a middle-click and open new ones with double-click.
(Note for bottom tabs (as of Aug.2010):
Do not set minWidth for tabs smaller than 8, or you risk crashes.
And in K-Meleon 1.6, which is in development yet (Beta version), the prefs entry for "bottom tabs" has been modified. If you use KM1.6 with a profile from 1.5.x and this one was customized to use bottom tabs, without "Tab/Window buttons" attached, the browser may crash at startup. Solution: Delete "kmeleon.tabs.bottomBar" from prefs.js in your profile.)
Obsolete: To set "layers" to the bottom, look at the K-Meleon Preferences page. But it's been awhile that layers (pseudo-tabs) have been replaced with "real" tabs in K-Meleon.
This feature is included since 1.5.1 version. You must create a new pref entry in about:config.
Go to Edit -> Configuration -> Browser Configuration (or type about:config in URL bar)
Right click in preference list, and select New -> Integer.
Name it: browser.tabs.closeButtons
And set value to: 1
Restart K-Meleon to changes take effect.
Or see above for an easier tip.
Three different ways are possible:
A) userContent.css
Paste one of the following rules to your userContent.css (Edit > Configuration > User-Defined StyleSheet):
1) This will only affect empty browser windows:
@-moz-document url(about:blank) { body { background-color: Window; } }
2) This will effect all pages that do not have a background color set:
body { background-color: Window; }
3) This will effect ALL pages:
body { background-color: Window !important; }
You have to restart K-Meleon to make changes in your userContent.css take effect. 'Window' is the symbolic name for your OS's window color, whatever it actually is.
B) about:config
Alternatively you can change a pref entry. This will affect empty browser windows/tabs, and all pages that do not have a background color set:
Go to Edit -> Configuration -> Browser Configuration (or type about:config in URL bar)
Type "color" in filter line, right click on browser.display.background_color and set another color value in the format #XXXXXX (#RGB, 0-F).
Open new page or reload to see the new color (no restart needed).
Optional you can FORCE this color on all elements, not just the ones the author left undefined, by clicking "Block Page Colors" in menu Tools > Privacy. Be aware that this one also forces own colors for text and links and it will also hide all background images, probably useful only in special cases.
There are tons more native gecko prefs available in about:config, more info is available on the Mozilla website
C) Macro extensions, addons etc.
For finetuning the page styling. Additionally to macros K-Meleon 74 may also be able to use some Firefox Addons in the future (new testing feature since Sep.2014)
In future K-Meleon versions this may be handled easier via about:preferences. Currently (K-Meleon75) go to Edit > Configuration > User Defined Stylesheet (file userContent.css in current profile folder). Add the following with a color of your choice, save the file and restart browser:
/* -- Links that have been visited are purple -- */ a:visited , a:visited * {color: purple !important;}
Colors can be either in hex-format like #cc00cc, or english html color names. If it doesn't work, check if history is enabled, in case of word-colors try other names or spelling in lower case (mediumvioletred). Other interesting link states: "a:hover" if mouse is over a link, "a:active" if a link was the last opened one.
You must create a new pref entry in about:config.
Go to Edit -> Configuration -> Browser Configuration (or type about:config in URL bar)
Right click in preference list, and select New -> Boolean.
Name it: font.askWhenNeeded
And set value to: false
The default direction for zooming with Ctrl+mousewheel depends from the version of the gecko engine, that's why it switched between K-Meleon versions 1.5.4 and 1.6. There exists a hidden switch to reverse that direction yourself, if you prefer, but it takes a bit manual work. See explanations in Forum. There's also a little macro available that creates a simple menu entry for switching.
Probably not. In most cases it's just your Privacy & Security settings:
If that doesn't help and a site is still not displaying/working properly, it's normally caused by one of three issues:
And more and more sites require the gecko engine 1.9.x to work fully, so they need K-Meleon 1.6 or newer. Currently (Nov.2010) this version is in development yet (Beta version), but many people use it already quite happy and such sites seem to work fine with it.
You can report such problems to the K-Meleon Forum - somebody may attempt to determine the source of the problem. Keep in mind that the particular authors are responsible for a website, not the K-Meleon developers.
May have to do with hardware acceleration and Windows theme (forum example)
Open this as adress and toggle the pref to true:
And this to false:
Are "all" your images suddenly invisible?
Only certain images broken, not all?
If it's really not broken on the server, it's most likely your privacy settings:
Your settings will all be forgotten if you do not have writing rights in your profile folder. If you don't need a portable version and just want a quick fix: Delete the file "profile.ini" (not profileS.ini) in the K-Meleon program folder and restart. This will create a new profile in your user appdata folder, where you already have writing rights by default, and your settings will be remembered next time. More info here and here.
That happens on some modern sites when visiting them with older versions of the browser's gecko engine. Not all input fields are fully recognized as such anymore, and then "Go Back" is used instead of "Delete". A quick on-the-fly workaround is to press SHIFT+Backspace for deleting. For a permanent solution you can remove the default "Go Back" shortcut from the "Backspace" key:
Edit > Configuration > Accelerators
Add this line and restart:
The above solution is just a profile setting, not global. Better but slightly more complicated: Remove that shortcut in all profiles by default and instead of "Backspace" use "SHIFT-Backspace" as shortcut for "Go Back". For this edit the file K-Meleon\defaults\settings\accel.cfg and change
By the way there's another default shortcut for flipping back pages: ALT+Left Arrow. Works fine, you just need both hands for it, unlike SHIFT+Backspace.)
The Personal Security Manager (PSM) in Mozilla, which K-Meleon is built on, uses sockets for communication between its security components. These communications are internal to the browser and do not go out to the Internet. There is no danger in allowing K-Meleon this access. All Mozilla browsers behave like that.
Your system may be missing some "Microsoft runtime libraries required to run applications developed with Visual C++". Those dll's are not included in the ZIP/7Z versions of KM. Usually they exist already on newer systems, but uninstalling another program may have removed them.
KM 1.5.x needs: msvcp71.dll and msvcr71.dll
Just put the 2 dll's into the K-Meleon root folder. You can download it from some DLL files download sites, like for example: DLL-files.com (or see below)
KM 1.6 needs: msvcp80.dll and msvcr80.dll
Older system like Win98SE: put them into the K-Meleon root folder. KM1.6 may run with KernelEx on Win98/ME, but officially those systems are only supported up to KM 1.5.4.
Newer systems like Vista: you must install those dll's globally (see link to Microsoft VS2005 here or Alain's mini-version)
Unless you install the vcredist, you may find those dll's elsewhere in your programs folder or another computer, in internet dll-archives, or extract them from the "installer"-version of K-Meleon (e.g. with 7zip, instead of setup just right-click and unzip the exe).
This type of problem is usually the result of the DDE (Dynamic Data Exchange) option being enabled in the Windows Registry for the type of URL that you are trying to open. In Windows Explorer, open Tools > Folder Options... and select the File Types tab. When you've found the type of URL in question (e.g. URL:HTTP ...), select it and click Edit.... In the list of Actions select open and click Edit.... Uncheck the Use DDE checkbox and press OK until you are finally out of the Folder Options dialog.
Your system is missing certain libraries. See the system requirements.
Also make sure that you have not accidentally disabled those plugins:
Edit -> Preferences -> K-Meleon Plugins. Click on the tabs for further configuration.
The set-default routine in K-Meleon 1.5.x is outdated, it works only up to XP-SP2 correctly. If you're on a newer Windows you can use this autoit-extension for KM1.5.x: Defaulter2 (unzip with 7zip into K-Meleons root folder and restart)
(Or how to manually register "URL:HTTP(S)" filetypes:
Open up Windows Explorer and click the Tools button on the menu bar, then select Folder Options... In the Folder Options window select the File Type tab. Scroll down until you see "URL:HTTP (HyperText Transfer Protocol)" under the File Types column, it's extention is (NONE). Click the advanced button, then in the Actions: list box select open, then click the Edit button. In the new window click the Browse... button then navigate to the K-Meleon.exe in it's installed directory then click ok. The default location is "C:\Program Files\K-Meleon\K-Meleon.exe" (you can just copy this WITH QUOTES if you installed it in the default directory). Add "%1" to the The Application to preform action text box. Uncheck DDE and both Ok buttons. Do the same for the URL:HTTPS file type and then you're done.)
The problem is Java's "Next Generation" plugin npjp2.dll. It seems to help to overrule that plugin with the "Classic" plugin: copy the file C:\Programs\Java\jre6\bin\npoji610.dll into K-Meleon's "plugins" folder (see forum).
Please review the release notes of the K-Meleon version you are using for known issues/problems.
Submit your question to the K-Meleon Forums (registration is not required to post and providing an e-mail address is optional). Be prepared that it may take some time until somebody knowing the answer to your question will read your post. So, check back from time to time. Bookmark the thread you posted to in order to find it again later. If you are registered, you can mark "Follow Topic" to find it listed in your 'Control Center', since currently there are no notifications by email. (Note: German language had a 'Blindflug' problem, set new Forum Language HERE.)
If you think you've found a bug, ask in the Forums first. Most posted "bugs" turn out to be just simple HowTo questions or general troubleshooting, like bugs in websites or third-party plugins, not K-Meleon bugs. In any case, make yourself familiar with our Bug Reporting Guidelines before you file a report in our Bug Tracking System (requires registration). Be prepared that you are asked to provide more information - you have to help us to help you.
If by "chrome" you mean Google's new browser: Nothing! K-Meleon is 8 years older, and contained a "chrome" folder for its user interface long before Google even dreamed of creating an own browser and baptizing it "Chrome". To quote Wikipedia: "The visible graphical interface features of an application are sometimes referred to as 'chrome'". Regarding the Google browser it says: "The name is derived from the graphical user interface frame, or 'chrome', of web browsers."
To quote Dorian: Some websites only check the version number for compatiblity. With "k-meleon 2.0" they complain you must update your browser, but they are happy with "k-meleon 10.0". So, k-meleon 74 will be fine for a while...
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Wednesday, January 09, 2008
Gone, Baby, Gone!
Arrington and Manningham apparently are going declare themselves eligible for the NFL draft while Mallett apparently will be transferring. While definitely a blow to the 2008 squad, none of the departures come as a surprise.
However, what was sort of telling were Rodriguez's comments about the players at halftime of yesterday's Michigan b.ball game:
"Obviously with Mario and Adrian they made a decision they thought would help them professionally and decided to come out early. We wish them well. That's about all I have to say about that."
Ooookay. Not exactly a warm, fuzzy good-bye. But seeing as they weren't "his" players, not entirely shocking. However, what was much more telling where his remarks regarding Mallett:
"I don't care. He's not playing for Michigan. I'm concerned with who's playing for Michigan, that's my concern."
This in the wake of his words earlier in the day on Jim Rome's radio show:
"I talked to him (Mallett) and all our quarterbacks about how our system adapts to the quarterback. If we get a throwing quarterback, we've had ones who have gone on to have great careers and to the NFL and all that."
"But I (spoke to Mallett) a couple of times. I recruited him once, I recruited him twice, but after the third call, it's, 'OK, three times is enough for me.' It's three invitations. If somebody doesn't want to be here, then we should all move along."
TRANSLATION: Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
I must say, I like a coach who basically says, Nobody is above the program. This is about team. And if you're here for something besides that, we don't want you.
Going to be an interesting ride, folks.
35 comments:
- Katie said...
We already know more about what is happening in Michigan Football than we ever did before. This could be a good thing, or a not so good thing. These kids leaving, I am not worried about, and I like R2's thinking. We don't want kids here who don't want to be here. Plain and simple. I think you pegged it right though Yost, we are in for a ride. We have been riding the same roller coaster for so long that we know every up and down that is coming. We just stepped on to a ride that we have no idea what is coming around the corner, I am hoping it is a wonderfully thrilling ride. Just remember folks, sometimes to get the biggest excitement, you have to dip down to some lows. I hope the Michigan fan base is ready for a few of those. (hopefully not too many of them though!)
- January 09, 2008 6:47 AM
- Bigasshammm said...
I think Mallet is an idiot and killing his future career. There's a reason MI has been known as QB U over the last few decades and I really don't see that changing too terribly much with RR here. Mallet should have seen in the Florida game that a non mobile qb can really excel in a spread offense and should have been excited for next year. But instead he can go cry somewhere else and go to UCLA where they will be fortunate to win 7 games a year.
Good riddance.
For 2008 though now what? Even if we get Pryor did we really want a true freshman coming out to lead the team under a new coach and new style of offense? That doesn't sound to hot to me.
- January 09, 2008 9:46 AM
- srudoff said...
perhaps Mallett can see that RR has been responsible for ONE nfl qb in all of his years of coaching, and Shaun King is barely an NFL qb. maybe he went to Michigan because of it's history of preparing quarterback's in a prostyle offense, and now is faced with running a spread or spread option for the next 3 years.
i don't know what type of schooling he'll get from Neuheisel, but transferring to UCLA didn't seem to hurt Troy Aikman very much way back when - and Neuheisel has been credited with helping to develop Aikman
- January 09, 2008 10:21 AM
- CrimeNotes said...
We'll be lucky to go 6-6 next year.
Personally, I don't like the new transparency. I don't know what it serves except satisfying and fueling our own curiosity, and now we're all parsing his words to infer behind-the-scenes drama and hidden motivations. I'd like to think that tension and conflicts between a nineteen-year-old and a fortysomething head coach could stay within the team, and that he could just let Mallett go without the passive-aggressive, slightly bitchy (for lack of a better term) remarks.
- January 09, 2008 10:25 AM
- dabearbus said...
I agree with Rich Rod on this one. Love the blunt and honest response. Quite refreshing actually.
Mallet is the anti-Jake Long. He has never, and will never care about his college program. For all the trash the national audience of the Capital One Bowl saw him talking from the sideline during the Florida game Michigan has always been a means to an end for him, a one way ticket to the pros where he can show off his "superior" talent. Don't get me wrong, the kid has a boatload of skill, but his attitude has always been questionable. Between his jib jab with Lloyd on the sideline, to his reported threats to transfer because, *sniff sniff*, "it's too cold!" Mallet has always acted for himself and not the program.
As for concerns with Pryor, I actually think his adjustment period might be smoother than Mallet's might have been. He runs the spread option at his HS in Pennsylvania, and as evidenced by the HS All American Game, he does so extremely effectively. He already knows how to make the read off the defensive end, and while arguably he will have to learn to adjust to the increased speed of the game, he shouldn't have too much trouble implementing that style of offense. Where Mallet had the obvious advantage was arm strength, but even he would have to learn to make his reads on passing plays as he didn't get a lot of play time last season (at least not with the full playbook) and Rich Rod is implementing a completely new offense anyway. On top of that, his accuracy and decision making was always a big question mark most notably evidenced by his time in Illinois game. Sure, Pryor is not going to come in and set any passing records either, but his knowledge of the spread and ability to move makes him much more dangerous offensively and should buy some time for him to make things happen on plays where things fall apart. I've got to be honest, I don't expect much from Michigan next season, we're going to have our hands full with OSU, and it is very reasonable to think that former Big Ten pushovers may cause us some additional problems. All that said, I'd rather get the true freshman (who is more likely to commit to UM in the first place if Mallet is gone) in there with a chance to gain some hard earned experience in tight games than have a sophomore play who may or may not be the starter in his junior/senior year just to fill time and prevent him from transferring. The final words on the short-lived Mallet era at Michigan are good riddance.
- January 09, 2008 10:37 AM
- dabearbus said...
Apparently you are forgetting that Rich Rod has never had a Rivals Top 100 player at the QB position graduate while he was coaching. He is known as a coach with a particular knack for doing extraordinary things with ordinary players (see his BCS Bowl record… oh… sorry that must hurt a bit). His recruiting classes have never cracked the Top 20, the result of sub-par in state recruiting and a real difficulty selling West Virginia to outside talent. All that said, he still somehow picked up Noel Devine, Steve Slaton and Pat White, and made them into one hell of an offensive machine.
That's what he hasn't done, here is what he has. He took a pro-style passer into the spread offense, basically ran a shotgun set with four wide and went undefeated at Tulane. He took the afore mentioned Shaun King, a more than virtual nobody, and implemented an offense that made him somehow, and this is nothing short of a miracle, NFL worthy in the eyes of the scouts. I agree with you that the East Texas boy who grew up cheering on the Cowboys probably idolizes Aikman and wants to follow in his footsteps at UCLA under Neuheisel, but you have to figure he's pretty foolish to pass on the opportunity to throw the ball 40+ times a game for the next 3 seasons. You know this offense. The one that torched the "SEC speed" of Florida during the Capital One Bowl. It looks (amazingly!) like the spread that got lesser talents (the Colt Brennan of the world) onto the national stage and into the Heisman voting. That's what Mallet had on the table. Let's call this kid what he is. He's a bit of a brat and a definite complainer who (in the mold of all those top recruits at Arkansas last year) want it his way or the highway. Well son, there's the door, you better get going.
This does not mean he will not be a great quarterback at UCLA or wherever else he ends up. He does have a lot of raw talent and confidence, he just has to get the attitude in check. Crimenotes, I am rethinking my previous statement. While I do like Rich Rod's blunt response, I agree, a nationally televised argument with a 19 year old kid on his way out the door is not the message we want to send about Michigan Football. That sounds more like standard practice from those guys up in East Lansing ("I'm telling (Hart) this. This isn't over!"). We should expect better than that.
- January 09, 2008 10:54 AM
- CrimeNotes said...
I think things would have been fine with a simple, "I've had several conversations with Ryan and it's clear to me that he'll be moving on. We wish him well." Plus, McGuffie has mentioned that he talks to Mallett frequently, that they're a lot alike, etc. RR sending this kind of passive signal through the press about a pretty immature guy who we all think is a knucklehead to begin with, I just don't know what good it does.
When Bo came in he was a mean crazy bastard to everybody, probably more intense than RR, but he wasn't sending signals about his players via talk shows.
As to Mallett, he seemed to have an attitude problem and the potential to be a liability to morale, but we don't really know. He and MM didn't like each other, but MM was a prima donna too. Mallett was put in the spotlight prematurely. Unlike Henne in his freshman year, he didn't slip into place easily. If anything his struggles showed what a talent and class act Henne was from the start. Mallett had a lot of maturing to do, yes, and maybe he never would have paid off, but I have a hard time seeing this as anything other than a net loss. Even if he never panned out, there was a high-reward potential here.
The bowl results may be a good encouragement for Pryor to come to Michigan ("Look how we rolled Florida; it's a new era; OSU was overwhelmed.") but if not, Threet's supposed to have a lot of talent.
- January 09, 2008 11:16 AM
- BARman said...
Totally agree with dabearbus' comments on Mallett, but even more so with crimenotes...
- January 09, 2008 11:25 AM
- Bigasshammm said...
It seems our future rests on if we get Pryor. If not then what? Who do we have left? Has a National stage powerhouse ever lost it's starting and backup qbs in the same off season? Usually there's a no name backup who never played but has been with the team for a while to step in and take over.
- January 09, 2008 12:28 PM
- lovinum said...
Crimenotes, you wouldn't know an interesting analysis if it hit you in the face.
Just kidding Notes...you can probably guess who this is.
In fact, I totally agree with you regarding the appropriate level of transparency for the program, and the war of words with a pretty immature kid such as Mallett. How unusual is it to hear all of this after well over a decade of the contrasting approach of Coach Carr's? He NEVER would have gone down this road. Yet another check in his favor as an ambassador of the program.
- January 09, 2008 12:28 PM
- srudoff said...
being a rivals top 100 player means nothing honestly
justin zwick was one
troy smith, same class as zwick, wasn't
mike d'andrea - top 5 rivals player
aj hawk, same class as d'andrea, nothing
it's all about hype
do you know who the qb's in the 2004 rivals 100 (henne's class) were...
Rhett Bomar (4)
Xavier Lee (10)
Anthony Morelli (12)
Chad Henne (13)
Matt Tuiasasopo (16)
Robbie Reid (41)
Stephen McGee (50)
Chase Patton (69)
Brian Brohm (78)
Drew Weatherford (88)
Nick Patton (97)
besides Brohm and Henne, you have a bunch of has-beens or never will be's.
you'll also be happy to know that hart and long were NOT on the list, but Jamison, Dutch, Galimore, and Alex Mitchell were
again it's all hype
as for this amazing passing offense that you're getting...
wvu was ranked #112 in the nation in passing this season
every one of rrod's last 5 wvu teams were ranked #90 or lower in passing yards
he's not going to scrap his system just because he's coming to michigan - he's going to end up running the same system in a year or two, as soon as he has his type of players (small and athletic) on board. shaun king is the ONE player in what 12 years of his coaching and assisting that had any kind of good career under him.
all i am saying is that it's not totally unclear why mallett would want to move on to the type of offense that he signed up for.
- January 09, 2008 12:30 PM
- srudoff said...
for what it's worth
In 1997 with Tulane he called 366 passes vs. 424 runs (54% Run). In 1998 he called 375 passes vs. 518 runs (58% Run) with Tulane. In 1999 with Clemson he called 422 passes vs. 486 runs (54% Run).
With West Virginia his playcalling continued to center around the run.
2001: 355 passes vs. 474 runs (57% Run)
2002: 279 passes vs. 714 runs (72% Run)
2003: 252 passes vs. 600 runs (70% Run)
2004: 259 passes vs. 589 runs (69% Run)
2005: 193 passes vs. 625 runs (76% Run)
2006: 233 passes vs. 590 runs (72% Run)
source:wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt perhaps
- January 09, 2008 12:34 PM
- ferenc said...
I have been really excited at the possibility of Threet running the spread. I thought there was going to be a good chance that he would win the job from RM next year.
- January 09, 2008 1:40 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I think that it would be better to look at pass efficiency.
My worry is that his playcalling might be too predictable. That's what the disgruntled WVU fans are saying, but they say a lot of things.
Manningham's grandfather said that RR was kind of jumping the gun, and that MM hasn't made up his mind yet. I find this believable, as I heard from someone involved with the team that MM couldn't stand Mallett and said that he wouldn't return if Mallett did. They certainly didn't seem to get along. I think that Mario might still be trying to decide.
There are also MM's post-game comments, in which he said that he wanted to finish his degree. He might have just missed the team meeting.
Don't get me wrong here. I am not a huge Manningham fan. He's kind of a bum, and there was a good reason that he never wore #1. I really hate that Arrington is leaving.
- January 09, 2008 1:46 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Oh, and Mallett's a punk. I've heard this from other students who have encountered him. He's started fights at parties since second semester last year. I have also met him, and I can confirm that he is a jerk.
- January 09, 2008 1:49 PM
- dabearbus said...
I never said Rivals was the be all and end all as far as predicting a players future success is concerned, but that being said certain metrics employed by Rivals to measure players (i.e. arm strength, accuracy, speed, physical build) are definite indicators of ability, and would certainly have an effect on a coach's confidence to throw the football. By the way, as far as your list is concerned, while Henne's class may have been short on QB talent, there is no doubt the folks over at Rivals have some idea what they're doing. Here's a few more guys that made that top 100 list:
Percy Harvin (Ask Michigan fans about him)
Chris "Beanie" Wells (probably the only bright spot for OSU in the title game)
Tim Tebow
Derrick Williams
Ryan Perrilloux (I know you know that one)
Darren McFadden
Mohamed Massaquoi
Mario Manningham
Rashard Mendenhall
Adrian Peterson
Ted Ginn Jr. (Total bust there. What was Rivals thinking?)
Early Doucet (He's not any good either.)
Dan Connor
Marshawn Lynch
Calvin Johnson
Dwayne Jarrett
Glenn Dorsey (Yep, would definitely rather have a non-rivals guy.)
Brian Brohm
Reggie Bush
Andre Caldwell
Prescott Burgess
Greg Olsen
LaMarr Woodley
Robert Meachem
Jarvis Moss
Chris Leak
Steve Smith
Shawn Crable
Maurice Drew
Dennis Dixon
JaMarcus Russell
And it goes on… This is just since 2004. Obviously lots of guys don't necessarily pan out, and of course you can't get every player onto the Top 100 list (there is definitely a preference for skill position players, specifically RB and WR) but c'mon. Jake Long was a 4 star recruit (no slouch) as was Troy Smith. Granted Lauranitis came out of no where, but give it a rest. The bottom line is that these guys are solid players, with real natural talent. How they are brought along and developed and what their attitude is like may be another story. Look at all the LSU stars on here, btw. You can't tell me the Rivals list is bogus or overrated, they all just got finished stomping on you.
As for Rich Rod and Mallet, here is WVUs recruiting rank according to Rivals from 2004-2007, respectively: 47, 31, 52, and 23. These are the players who just stomped on Oklahoma. This is a testament to Rodriguez's coaching ability (not an indictment of Rivals… obviously from the above, the site does have merit). Mallet is too foolish or maybe just to short sighted to see that Rich Rod has brought along players arguably better than any coach in college football, and that his system (actually as evidenced by the stats Sru provided) is highly adaptable. 70% run at WVU, 55% at Tulane. Notable difference, no? That sounds like the effect of having a running QB vs. not having one to me. Nothing about this shows me that if he had a prototypical pro-style passer he wouldn't air it out more. If anything it is evidence that he would. If Rich Rod has showed (and told) us anything it's that he is not necessarily looking to implement the WVU offense at Michigan, but rather adapt his spread style to the players we have. From the Capital One Bowl, it seems pretty clear that has a lot of potential. I for one do not see how that's a problem.
- January 09, 2008 2:24 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
I don't want to judge but if folks are calling out Mallet then how can they want Pryor in the same breath? Yes, I've never met Pryor and he hasn't stepped a foot in A2 but the same exact grumblings about Mallet exist around Pryor as well -- I'm just saying.
Personally, I'd love to see what U of M's GT transfer can do in a game plan similar to what we saw in the Cap One Bowl.
And as far as recruiting goes, one cannot compare WVU to U of M. R2 is going to have access to parts of the country he never has before. R2 has also stated on more than one occasion that he molds the system to the players. R2 doesn't recruit only small and fast... he did the best with what he could. Furthermore, there's nothing written in stone that says thou shalt do at Michigan as R2 did at WVU or Tulane.
Personally I could give a shit about the offense other than I'm giddy at the prospect of not seeing run to the left, run to the left, TE screen, punt anymore!
- January 09, 2008 3:06 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
blue... it may not be up to Manningham anymore.
If one blows off an organized team function, and they do it in less than professional manner, and compounding things is the blow off is done to a the new boss, then that new boss may just hasten some movement out the door.
- January 09, 2008 3:10 PM
- srudoff said...
Well obviously he HAS to adapt it to the players you have now for the first year or two - but i'd be surprised if he doesn't start implementing the 65% run/pass balance once he's able to start recruiting HIS type of players.
as for rivals - sure there are going to be some great players on there - but since 2004, there have been 400 players on there - i'd be surprised if more than half would be regarded as top 100 players anymore. you brought up the lack of rivals 100 players as proof that he's able to get it done with less talent. i'm saying rivals 100 doesn't mean you are a top 100 talent - it means you have talent AND hype.
hey time will tell - i'm very interested to see what happens in AA over the next two years. personally i think pryor goes elsewhere, along with rm, aa, and mm and everyone that graduated (or used up their eligibility) and you guys end up losing 3 or 4 games next year. it's just an opinion, probably not an objective one. i see osu ranked #5 or 6 to start 2008, lose early to usc, drop to #10, then rise up each week back to a top 2 spot as they go unbeaten in the big ten. then have to play georgia in the mnc game in miami - i can't even fathom the bad press they'll deservedly get for the 50 some odd days between The Game and the mnc. we just have a ton of talent coming back, hopefully with a chip on their shoulder.
anyway , this is actually a pretty good discussion - you guys have reason to be excited and it shows
- January 09, 2008 3:25 PM
- CrimeNotes said...
I just let myself have a dumb fantasy of Threet and Pryor rotating like Leak and Tebow. Probably won't ever happen, I just hope it isn't like ND early last fall when it was a clusterfuck deciding which unready QB was going to by the guy.
Freep says Mallett is officially gone:
The former Texas Class 4A offensive player of the year may end up at Tennessee, which is considering hiring former Michigan offensive coordinator Mike DeBord and quarterbacks coach Scot Loeffler.
"If they're hired, that would be a real good possibility," Jim Mallett said. "Ryan really clicked with both coach DeBord and coach Loeffler during the last couple months of the season and during bowl practices, I've never seen Ryan throw the ball or read defenses as well as he did."
Mallett was like an underperforming stock. He was either going to skyrocket or tank. The downside wasn't terrible as long as Threet was around as insurance. As of now, it's Threet and no depth beyond him.
- January 09, 2008 3:25 PM
- Breaston154LIFE said...
With Mallett leaving, we better hope to God we get Pryor. I've heard alot about how Mallett's decision will affect Pryor's decision, but we will just have to see.
I'll say it, if Michigan doesn't do well this season coming up, I'll still be a fan, I'll still enjoy every upcoming Saturday. But, guarantee if it is not a smooth season in 2008, the 2009 will bring much success. Maybe it will this season.
But, we shouldn't worry about who will be Quarterbacking, and what our Wide Receivers will do. The college football season is only 2 days over and it's eight months until kickoff. Alot could happen from now until then.
Word is Pryor will be making his decision at the end of the month. The recruiters are very optimistic in pulling in a full 25 strong recruit class (current count at 17). I'm not sweating it and neither should the rest of the Wolverine Nation.
- January 09, 2008 3:38 PM
- Katie said...
I didn't have time early, I see now that someone mentioned Threet. I really think this kid could do something with R2, so I am pleased that we have him. I love that R2 is acting like it is no big deal that we are losing the players that we are. I read in some article that he said "we will be fine" (or ok, or something to that nature). If you look at it like some have, the fact that he took mediocre talent at WVU and created great players, tells you that whomever we have,(at least the caliber that he is familiar with working if not better) he can do something with them. As I mentioned in my first post, I think we must be careful to not expect the world in the first season. It could take some time to iron out the wrinkles, but I am nearly giddy with excitement over the whole thing!
One of the things I loved about Carr was his stoic integrity. I am not sure that anyone could come into this program and resemble that. I do hope that R2 has enough sense and less of an ego (then I am afraid that he has) that he can learn a few things from Carr. I do think that he has handled the WVU fan thing with some fairly good poise though, which is a great sign.
- January 09, 2008 3:41 PM
- dabearbus said...
Nice to see we can disagree without being disagreeable.
In any case, you're correct that Rivals is not always a fool proof endorsement, but that said, they have really pegged a number of great players over the years, and it stands to reason that the more of those guys you have, the better shot of getting one of the standouts. You should be happy to hear this given the number of these guys OSU has been able to snare this year.
As far as Rich Rod's coaching style of choice, I will say this. I agree that I think he ideally likes to implement the option spread and employ a mobile quarterback. Maybe that's why Mallett was so eager to leave, he just didn't see himself beating out Pryor for the job (should he choose to come) and had to play his hand first. We'll never know. That all said though, I still don't see any reason to believe that Rich Rod won't look for dual threat guys, especially now that he can offer the program prestige and history that these top-tier, highly recruited guys are looking for. Obviously, selling Michigan is a hell of a lot easier than selling WVU. Rich Rod would be foolish (and he isn't) not to seek out running/throwing guys like Pryor into the future. It fits his ideal game plan, and they'll actually be willing to come (or at least entertain the notion of coming), whereas at WVU he was stuck picking from Big Ten/ACC/SEC leftovers.
As far as next season goes, I would be happy with only losing 3-4 games. It's a clear transition year, and Lloyd has left Rich Rod in a difficult spot from a talent/experience standpoint. ESPN is reporting now that Mallett is gone (take that with a grain of salt these days, but it seems to be from the father, so probably accurate) and he's the only other QB in maize and blue to see the field during meaningful minutes in the past 4 years. Arrington is out the door. I agree with Yost on this one in that he really can't improve his draft position that much by staying, especially with what will likely be a true frosh or sophomore running the show under center. Manningham on the other hand could answer a lot of questions, but in the end, I think NFL dollars will trump Michigan degrees. We have tough matchups with tOSU at the shoe, Wisconsin at home, Illinois at home and PSU on the road (though they'll have some questions of their own to answer on both sides of the ball). Notre Dame in South Bend will also be interesting. They can't be as bad as they were this year, can they? And also, while MSU, Minnesota and the like should be pushovers, they still view us as rivals, as off base as that seems to some UM fans, and they'll come to play. In any case, it should be a very interesting Big Ten season all around.
I wouldn't count your chickens with OSU just yet. Tressel still can't seem to figure out that option spread, and while Mendenhall is gone, Illinois still has a lot of speed and talent in that offense. Not to mention the good number of the newly emerged superstars down in Columbus that may be on their way to greener ($$$) pastures (Gholston, Wells, Lauranitis, etc.) That may be less of an issue down there, you definitely have some of those guys on the payroll already, but it's hard to turn down the thought of going first round, especially if you're Beanie Wells and you know as a running back you have a short shelf life. Anyway, all I'm saying is the Bucks almost always seem to drop one cheap one so I wouldn't be too confident that you're going to run the table in the Big Ten.
Agree on great comments from all. Further rationale for my appreciation and respect for this site.
- January 09, 2008 4:10 PM
- srudoff said...
Terrelle Pryor just announced that he's set up his official Michigan visit
- January 09, 2008 4:15 PM
- Katie said...
Sru, Smart ass! :P
- January 09, 2008 4:25 PM
- I'm blue, da ba dee said...
I think you misunderstood, sru... that was Pryor's "invitation" to tOSU
- January 09, 2008 7:42 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Holy shit DeBord to Tenn? The rest of SEC nation has to salivating at that one. If true, Rocky Top is going to get a rude invitation to doing less with more.
- January 09, 2008 7:56 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
able to start recruiting HIS type of players
You missed the point. We don't explicitly know what "his" style of players are. R2 was on the sidelines for the Florida game. He may have been impressed with Michigan's line. He may have been impressed with other positions. I'd wager that R2 would give his left one for a Jake Long type to come to his program. And Michigan has been churning out those types of linemen for quite some time.
R2, for the first time, is going to have access to all types of players. And I'm sure R2 has a soft spot for some size and strength. Look at WVU's fullback from this past season. That animal not only blocked, but got some carries, and even ran patterns occasionally.
- January 09, 2008 8:03 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
have been away all day, but this is a fascinating, multi facet thread. i know at least sru is DYING to hear what i think (sru- find away around the office firewall or just get another job?), soooo...
Coaches on TV- we need to get used to it.
the stoics died w/Bo & Lloyd was the cult's last member. coaches are now media personalities (how about Urban monday night?). all the top coaches have a "persona", even sweaterboy (his is just purposely "dull").
when was the last time you saw Lloyd on TV? on rome's show? forget the content, R2 has been on ESPN more in a month than Lloyd in 13 years.
Mallett- his leaving is NOT the problem!
first, what was R2 supposed to say? if he follows the lloyd route & says nothing? we all complain & ask "what happened?". now we know- he asked him to stay, the kid decided to go. buh-bye.
second, this is a problem because of Lloyd, not R2. why the F do we only have 1 frosh QB anyway? what if Lloyd had not retired & Mallet blows a knee in the 1st game or spring practice? we're in this spot because we don't have any back ups now. we played the whole season w/ a true frosh as back up & were going into next year w/ the same problem, w/ or w/out Mallet.
all investments carry risk & past performance does not insure future earnings!
stock/mutual fund ads always say that. isn't it true for predicting future recruiters? who knew what kind of players sweater boy would get @ tosu? he was a DI-AA coach & had never played the big venues. what if you hire an SEC coach who's never been north of Lexington?
and in R2's case, how do we know who he's going to go after? 93 nailed that R2's prior players/game plans were determined by the players available. he's never had a tom brady or chad henne in his program. the top QB picks end up here, or USC, or some other "top shelf" program. even as big as the Rutgers or WVU's get, they're still not destinations.
who's to say R2 won't go after the tom bradys & run a passing spread, now that he's somewhere where he can get a tom brady?
ultimately, my point is that predicting who he is going to recruit here based on who he recruited to wvu is like predicting who les miles would recruit to lsu based on who he recruited to Ok State. different school, different opportunity.
and sru, thanks for the props on yesterday's post. my informal "poll" of tosu fans/friends is about 30/70 on monday nite. 70%- "we were just a play(or penalty) or two away from winning that"; 30%- "damn, that's 9 losses in the last four seasons & 7 of those were to spread/zone option/other funky non pro style teams & this is beginning to look like a trend?".
next year's usc game could be a watershed.
- January 09, 2008 10:07 PM
- Breaston154LIFE said...
Well, Adrian Arrington has officially declared for the NFL Draft. Does anyone besides me think that he went a bit too early? I know he is a durable receiver but if he had stayed another year and had a really great season, his stock would rise considerably. Blow to the Michigan offense but a good pick up to whichever NFL team drafts him.
This probably means that Manningham is on his way out. Although I would like him to stay another year, he is capable of being a big play receiver in the NFL. I will enjoy watching Arrington and Manningham play on Sunday's next season and I hope they have great success in their NFL Careers. Who knows, maybe one of them will end up going to the same team Henne will be going to.
As for Ryan Mallett. I loved his talent but if he wants to be a dick and leave fine by me. He never got along with Mario and seemed to be a wee bit cocky at times. Read this quote from his father.."It just wasn't a fit and yet, it was a hard decision," Jim Mallett said. "When he came home for Christmas, he told me and my wife that he really was falling in love with being at Michigan."
Oh really? He was falling in love with Michigan so much he had to get away from all of his love for the school and transfer. Makes sense to me.
- January 09, 2008 10:47 PM
- CrimeNotes said...
After signing day last year the QB depth chart was like an embarrassment of riches -- Henne, Forcier, Mallett, and then Threet came in sometime over the summer. Those were four extremely high-quality QBs, all plausible starters at BCS schools. Forcier left because he figured he couldn't leapfrog Mallett; Mallet's gone; now it's just Threet. Lloyd didn't slack at recruiting QBs. This isn't an issue of someone screwing up but the predictable difficulties in a transition. It'll get solved, possibly with Pryor, but maybe not. Whatever bumps there are, don't sound like a Domer blaming Willingham.
Second, media personality, fine, although how ESPN appearances for the sake of ESPN appearances benefit the program, I have no idea. I don't think he quite crossed a line, but after Weis ripped the transfers during the bloodletting there last season and Meyer said last week that he's not going to miss any seniors, criticizing outgoing players to the press doesn't seem to have a noble precedent. Mallett's not Eugene Germany, Rodriguez hasn't lost face in the transfer, and gratuitously antagonizing a guy who wasn't exactly the team figurehead seems pretty and pointless. Mallet leaving is like switching jobs after your company's bought out; it wasn't anti-Michigan, and if he stayed it would have been more of a testament to the program and Rodriguez than it is an insult that he's moving on. Utter some platitudes and leave him alone.
Otherwise, I think you're right about the unpredictability of who he'll recruit and what he'll try to do. Should be a fun time for the program.
- January 09, 2008 10:47 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
you probably didn't mean the reference to "not be a domer" to be as insulting as i took it, but if you ever do it again, i'll send my dog over to your house to crap in your yard. being compared to a "domer" in any aspect (except maybe hair loss) just isn't something w/ which i can abide.
as for the QB situation, ok, it's not Lloyd's "fault". however, the fact is we had two QB's available to play this season- Mallett & Henne. we had prior to this a.m., two on the roster- mallett & threet (which is, for practical purposes, one- mallet).
however you care to explain it, that circumstance exists entirely absent of R2's involvement. if Lloyd had never retired, R2 never had left WVa, we'd still be thin @ QB.
now, mallet leaving? that's a result of the coaching change. that we have little in the way of alternatives right now? that problem existed before R2. maybe that's not Lloyd's fault, but there's nothing R2 could have done to prevent it.
the tv appearances are potentially a HUGE asset for the program. these are 17 year old kids we are targeting for the team. they listen to ipods, play xbox, and watch cable- espn & mtv. kids connect through e-media. they don't read newspapers and don't listen to old people (like me).
for a coach, being seen as savvy, connected, and wired is a huge connection. old guys like me, and my middle aged sense of "good form", isn't who they're aiming for (much like most of network programming).
and i'm sorry, but i like people who say what they're thinking. R2 said he tried to recruit mallett, and mallett blew him off. it it's true, i'm glad he said it.
how's that an insult to mallett?
unless mallet wanted to stay and thinks R2 blew him off, i don't see an insult there.
- January 09, 2008 11:44 PM
- srudoff said...
Wednesday, January 9, 2008
Mallett says he felt 'forced out' because of U-M coach Rodriguez's offense
Angelique S. Chengelis / The Detroit News
Ryan Mallett said the decision was difficult but, ultimately, he could not see himself playing in Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez's system.
Mallett, who saw significant playing time in the 2007 season, is no longer with the Wolverines. He left Ann Arbor at 3:30 a.m. on Wednesday to make the long drive back home to Arkansas.
"I felt like I was forced out because of the offense that's coming in," Mallett said by phone during his drive. "I was recruited to be a drop-back passer. I have nothing against coach Rod, but the system is forcing me out."
This was not an easy decision for Mallett, who said he is looking at a number of schools and will have to sit out a season after transferring. Former Michigan quarterbacks coach Scot Loeffler, who recruited Mallett, is interviewing with several programs, including UCLA, Texas A&M and Tennessee. He had his second interview with Tennessee on Wednesday.
Mallett said he is not necessarily going to the school at which Loeffler lands, but said if he visits the school and likes it, having Loeffler there would be a bonus.
"I'm not leaning one way or the other," Mallett said. "I've been talking to some schools, and I'll make a decision in about a week."
Mallett played in 11 games and was 61-of-141 for 892 yards and seven touchdowns. He saw increased playing time because of injuries to starter Chad Henne.
"It was tough," Mallett said of his decision to leave. "Even though I felt forced out, I made a lot of gains. I'm not upset, and I'm not bitter.
"I'll always be a Michigan man, even though for the next few years I'll be wearing the colors of a different school."
Mallett said he did not immediately decide to leave Michigan when Rodriguez was hired. Mallett said he made the first call to Michigan's new coach and they met in person, he said, for about five minutes.
"I was still feeling it out," Mallett said. "I'm sure he could have (molded the system around Mallett), but it's still the spread game. Tell me how many guys have run the spread and made it past college to the next level? I'm not thinking about the next level right now, but I just felt it was best for me to move on."
Mallett and Rodriguez had three conversations, including one shortly after the bowl game, Mallett said.
Rodriguez said Tuesday on a national radio show that he made several attempts to convince Mallett to stay.
"I talked to him and all our quarterbacks about how our system adapts to the quarterback," Rodriguez said. "If we get a throwing quarterback, we've had ones who have gone on to have great careers and to the NFL and all that.
"But I (spoke to Mallett) a couple of times. I recruited him once, I recruited him twice, but after the third call, it's, 'OK, three times is enough for me.' If somebody doesn't want to be here, then we should all move along."
Mallett did not attend a team meeting with Rodriguez on Monday.
When Rodriguez was asked by reporters Tuesday night at the Michigan basketball game about Mallett, he made it clear the quarterback was no longer part of the program.
"I don't care," Rodriguez said. "He's not playing for Michigan. I'm concerned with who's playing for Michigan."
Mallett enrolled early at Michigan last January. He said it was an up-and-down experience, but he grew to love Michigan and his teammates.
"Coming in early, it helped me a lot, and it hurt me," Mallett said. "I didn't progress those first three or four months, because I missed home.
"But I learned a lot about football. I've grown over the past year a lot. I'm leaving a lot of good friends."
He wanted to clear the air about the Wisconsin game, the second-to-last game of the regular season. Henne started but was pulled early because of his shoulder injury. The Wolverines lost, but the captured television image of Mallett and star receiver Mario Manningham in what appeared to be a heated argument sparked plenty of talk.
"People made a big deal with that Mario thing in Wisconsin," Mallett said. "We weren't bickering. We were trying to get on the same page. We weren't arguing. We were in the heat of the moment."
Mallett plans to visit a few friends during his drive from Ann Arbor to his parents' home and will arrive there on Friday. Between now and then, he said, he will have plenty of time to think.
What he knows, though, is that he leaves Michigan with good feelings.
"There were a couple of tough times, but a lot of good times, and I'm going to remember the good times at Michigan," Mallett said. "I had a great experience. I couldn't have any regrets
- January 09, 2008 11:52 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
so, he didn't stay because he didn't want to play in R2's scheme?
this isn't the soviet union (this isn't the soviet union, is it?). he doesn't want to play in a spread scheme, he should go somewhere else.
next year is going to be a challenge- whether Lloyd retired or not.
- January 10, 2008 12:00 AM
- Nathan said...
If I were a big time receiver, I'd get the hell out too, unless you like running the bubble screen every third play with an occasional post pattern. As for Mallet, I can't really blame him either. In RRod's first season at WVU he had a similar QB(admittedly with less talent) and the team went 3-8. In 2005, RRod started the season with another normal "pocket passer" and the team looked horrible. He lucked out when that QB was injured and Pat White entered the game. White has started ever since and RRod suddenly became a genius
- January 10, 2008 11:12 AM


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Saturday, October 20, 2007
Illinois Open Thread
Plus throw in the fact that the Illini have their backs to the wall after last weekend's loss.
Thus, while Reverse Blog Psychology requires that I continue my trend of picking U-M's opponent here, based on the above, I don't really know if his is an RBP pick or a probable outcome:
Hart-less Michigan - 21, Spread Bitches, Spread Illinois - 28
Leave your thoughts, rants, feelings and general what-not in the comments section.
Final Score: All-Heart Michigan - 27, We Love Penalties Illinois - 17
That, my friends, was a HUGE victory for the 2007 Wolverines. To go into a hostile stadium at night with injuries to arguably the best RB in the country and a banged up senior QB, overcome three turnovers and a 14-3 deficit is very impressive.
More to come later but I need to wait until my heart rate drops below 175 beats per minute.
Go Blue!
71 comments:
- whetstonebuck said...
Che-he! Che-ha! Che-ha-ha-ha!
Go Illini go!
Che-he! Che-ha! Che-ha-ha-ha!
Go Illini go!
Illinois! Illinois! Illinois!
Look, if you get beat by a school with the above fight song lyrics just remember to slash down the wrist and not across.
Oh yeah, make sure you're sitting in the tub. Key Play fans will appreciate your thoughtfulness.
- October 20, 2007 1:56 AM
- mikeykurt said...
O.K first of all never do those lyrics again, and second you have a point to worry but dont because we do have the best or close to best recieving core in the nation.
Hail to the Victors! Go Blue!
- October 20, 2007 8:57 AM
- Katie said...
GO BLUE!!! (Thank God for ABC!)
Whets, I didn't know you had such a lovely singing voice :P
- October 20, 2007 10:13 AM
- Breaston154LIFE said...
Well, I disagree with what you said regarding Mike Hart. You said he will most likely not be playing, but we all know you can't keep him off the field unless you saw off both of his legs and take away his wheelchair.
- October 20, 2007 10:21 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
Those who hear me say I'm channeling Elvis.
- October 20, 2007 10:22 AM
- TitleIX said...
We're DOOMED today.....
- October 20, 2007 10:47 AM
- A2saint said...
Add this to the mix (if you dare...) I will be able to watch this game live, the first time this year. In my family I am well known as a first class jinx (first class other things as well- but this is a topic for another blog...). This could be a problem. But I promise to switch to the food network if it appears I am causing any negative mojo.
PS anybody ever click on the little wheelchair guy next to the word verification? It's a hoot.
- October 20, 2007 11:17 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
"PS anybody ever click on the little wheelchair guy next to the word verification? It's a hoot."
Aaaaiiiieeee. The voices! The voices are back.
- October 20, 2007 11:21 AM
- Da Braylon said...
you were nervous about the purdont game and look what happened. we crushed them. granted, painter is not a mobile qb and we were at home, but we still shut them down. you predicted a loss and we won. so keep predicting losses and they might keep winning. :)
- October 20, 2007 11:31 AM
- Maize said...
Michigan is going to get "juiced" like Ron and Nicole! No Hart means Carlos Brown will fumble more times than he gets yards. Henne will get nailed more times by more men than Lindsay Lohan did in rehab. Mario will resort to his old self and start dropping passes only to tell Carr at the end of the game he's transferring to Notre Dame.
Illinois spread offense will make Michigan look like a joke again.
- October 20, 2007 11:38 AM
- Katie said...
Maize......thank you!!
- October 20, 2007 12:22 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
do dat do dat do dat do dat
do dat do dat do dat do dat
Very superstitious, writings on the wall,
Very superstitious, ladders bout to fall,
Thirteen month old baby, broke the lookin glass
Seven years of bad luck, the good things in your past.
When you believe in things that you dont understand,
Then you suffer,
Superstition aint the way
do dat do dat do dat do dat
do dat do dat do dat do dat
- October 20, 2007 12:52 PM
- TitleIX said...
Stevie Wonder likes football???
- October 20, 2007 1:17 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Stevie can't see promoting superstition.
- October 20, 2007 1:33 PM
- TitleIX said...
- October 20, 2007 1:48 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
- October 20, 2007 2:01 PM
- Super G said...
No guts no glory! Forget reverse psychology! You've gone soft. The spread on this game is 1.5 points. We'll cover that no problem.
Michigan 34
Illinois 20 (only because we let them have 10 late-4th quarter points)
If Michigan loses, I'll wear orange on Sunday.
- October 20, 2007 2:22 PM
- Katie said...
Super G,
NOOOOOOOOOOO....we use reverse pyschology.........Michigan is going to get CREAMED!!!!!!!
Whets, I thought I recognized that trembling upper lip you have. I didn't know Elivs has such a range of music that he sung though!
- October 20, 2007 2:25 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Burnt orange or pumpkin orange?
- October 20, 2007 2:26 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Thank ya, thank ya very much.
Elvis has not left the building.
- October 20, 2007 2:28 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
This is like Lucy holding the ball for Charlie Brown- when are we gonna learn? we saw all kinds of different "stuff" on offense last week. W/ Hart out, we should try all that different stuff THIS week. But we won't. Why? Because what would that prove? Last week we proved we could pass the ball w/ Hart in the game. This week we'll prove we can RUN the w/out Hart in the game. It's "the team" thing. We're Michigan- we'll quick to anyone abd cover them. We'll run the ball against twelve man fronts. We stay "our" offense regardless of personnel.
Names don't matter- only execution.
The is the same crew that didn't scout App St. They aren't going to adjust for illinois, hart's injury, or the forward pass.
- October 20, 2007 3:17 PM
- TitleIX said...
POOF! go the Cyclones. :-(
- October 20, 2007 3:58 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
I told you to root for Vandy. If you had listened to me that would be a smiley face.
- October 20, 2007 4:09 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Boeckman is 7 for 7 with a TD.
I heard Chad Henne has a poster of Todd Boeckman on his wall.
- October 20, 2007 4:18 PM
- TitleIX said...
oh whetstone.
Now I'm trying to decide if tOSU is that good, or Sparty is that sad.
Go WILDCATS (?)
- October 20, 2007 4:25 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
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- October 20, 2007 4:26 PM
- TitleIX said...
The Battle for the Best I-AA Loser in AA.
- October 20, 2007 4:27 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
so minnesota loses to I-AA North Dakota State, setting up next week's grudge match in A2.
look for EPSN to give it a name- something like: "Battle of the I-AA Losers" or "Battle to be the Best I-A Team in Division I-AA".
- October 20, 2007 4:28 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
very catchy use of all the "AA"'s.
maybe the game could be sponsored by, say "AAA"? certainly Lloyd could use the free maps.
- October 20, 2007 4:30 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
I think the game should be sponsored by AA. Lloyd could use a little help from a Higher Power.
- October 20, 2007 4:38 PM
- TitleIX said...
I was trying to follow your lead and then you 'yipped' on the post.....
- October 20, 2007 5:20 PM
- ChicagoWolverine said...
Colorado does the same gay key jingle on 3rd down. lame.
- October 20, 2007 5:54 PM
- Jeffrey said...
Should be a good game for you guys today....I'm torn between my hate for M*ch*g*n and wanting them to win out until the Buckeyes pay a visit. In any case good luck I guess
- October 20, 2007 6:39 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
my bad- fixed some typos.
- October 20, 2007 7:09 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
What a day. Now, if Oklahoma and LSU could pick up one more loss.
- October 20, 2007 7:22 PM
- Crock said...
just watched the Florida-Kentucky game --
Gary Danielson is so in love with all things Florida - I had to "mute" the game.
- October 20, 2007 7:49 PM
- TitleIX said...
No Henne, No Hart
I'm sick....
remain TRUE BLUE
- October 20, 2007 8:40 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Holy Shit... what Maize and Blue team was that lining up 5 wide receivers????
After seeing a shot of the crowd, I gotta think, Illinois hasn't beat Michigan at home since 1983, and fans are wearing Fuck Michigan shirts? Stay classy Illinois.
- October 20, 2007 8:44 PM
- TitleIX said...
- October 20, 2007 9:08 PM
- Katie said...
I realize we don't have much choice but I do love to see us passing........nice that they just ran Minor....gotta throw them off a bit........I am SOOOO nervous! OYE!!
- October 20, 2007 9:25 PM
- TitleIX said...
Ron Zook is such a smug doofus...
- October 20, 2007 9:32 PM
- TitleIX said...
isn't it interesting that it's the women who appear to be on-line right now????
- October 20, 2007 9:33 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Who is worse? Meyer or Zook?
- October 20, 2007 9:34 PM
- jwalk said...
Isn't that kind of like asking "Would you rather be deaf or blind?"
- October 20, 2007 9:38 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
I think Zook is worse... it's only a matter of time for Zook gets busted for some NCAA violations. There's no way in hell one gets a freshman class like that after the school goes 2-10, 2-9, 3-8, 1-11, 5-7 in the last five years.
Yeah, Zook can say sell the program to the kids by telling them they'll get playing time right away but I think that only goes so far.
Zook had to have made a deal with the devil and his time will come.
- October 20, 2007 10:07 PM
- Katie said...
I have company from out of town, a guy who doesn't like football.(How do I have friends who don't like football????)...so I bought a new bookshelf and I am having him put it together while I watch the game...LMAO!!! He still isn't finished and it is the 3rd quarter...hee hee......
- October 20, 2007 10:09 PM
- TitleIX said...
BRILLIANT Katie!
Classic TV shot of the Mendenhall family with the 'Hei$man' Shirt
and his mom will give him $1000 for 5 TDs?
Zook is way dirty
gotta be
- October 20, 2007 10:14 PM
- TitleIX said...
F'n running QB and F'n Crable..
- October 20, 2007 10:22 PM
- Captainron said...
my god this game is making me drink. ok, this drive is looking better. I'm still drinking though
- October 20, 2007 10:31 PM
- Captainron said...
- October 20, 2007 10:33 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
Let me say now that I was wrong. They came up w/ a whole new page to the playbook. If we lose, it won't be DeBord's playcalling.
- October 20, 2007 11:01 PM
- Merrick 561 said...
I really don't know if I'm going to make it to the end of this game alive....
- October 20, 2007 11:02 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
Let me say now that I was wrong. They came up w/ a whole new page to the playbook. If we lose, it won't be DeBord's playcalling.
- October 20, 2007 11:04 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Well, with 6:40-ish left, lets hope they don't run to the left 3x and give the ball up quickly.
- October 20, 2007 11:08 PM
- Merrick 561 said...
OMG We made a Field Goal!!!
- October 20, 2007 11:12 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
We got a bit lucky in this one... giving the ball up 3 times... but holy cow, what about the play calling?!?!?!?!
- October 20, 2007 11:20 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
Ok. Maybe I'm sold. I'll have to look in the mirror tomorrow to be sure, but I may be sold.
- October 20, 2007 11:29 PM
- TitleIX said...
BIG, TOUGH win on the road without Mike, with a highly medicated Chad (gotta be that way with a shoulder injury, ?partial separation vs. rotator cuff strain? ), and a juiced up Ryan.
Defense looked GREAT.
DeBord has been abducted by aliens. clearly.
- October 20, 2007 11:32 PM
- Amy said...
What a great win!! It wasn't pretty and it wasn't perfect but with all the injuries we faced I'm happy to take it!
- October 20, 2007 11:46 PM
- Crock said...
every time Illinois got a penalty -
I prayed that Zook was thinking -
"I really shouldn't have voted for Florida last year"
Karma can be a wonderful thing!
Title IX - i was thinking the same thing when I saw the Hei$man shirt - tacky, dirty, and wrong.
Go Blue !!!
Hail to the Victors !!!
- October 20, 2007 11:54 PM
- Super G said...
I didn't count on Henne being out and the first minute of the game.
Still --- all great for U of M and no reverse psychology required (thank you very much).
Go Blue,
Super G
- October 21, 2007 12:05 AM
- MonkeyWrench32 said...
For Michigan's final touchdown of the game, they didn't throw rock, they didn't throw paper, they didn't even throw scissors, they threw NINJA TORNADO!
I'm still in disbelief that this ultra-conservative offense would roll that play out. Wow.
- October 21, 2007 12:26 AM
- LudaChristian said...
Here's hoping we keep it rolling thru the remainder of the Big10 season (and beyond for a change). :)
- October 21, 2007 12:42 AM
- Matt said...
To Illinois: take that you classless bitches. You had it coming.
Where do I start? I think we go back a year to Ron Zook voting UF #2. But then we come back to this year.
My dad had a business trip to Champaign Urbana and people told him how much they hate Michigan, but they're ok with OSU.
Then tonight at the Michigan bar I was at, there was some dickhead with an Illinois shirt flipping everyone off. I think it was when the cameraman stumbled across the douchebag wearing the Fuck Michigan shirt that I decided that these miserable fans deserve an embarrassing loss to Michigan
- October 21, 2007 12:58 AM
- Jim said...
Just finished watching the game from the Tivo. I'm the first to be critical of lloyd and the staff, but I have to say...hats off. The playcalling, player discipline (though that may have been just by comparison) and, my god, the special teams! Field goals made, great kick coverage (after the opener). Illinois was battling field position all day. Really impressive win.
- October 21, 2007 12:58 AM
- Jim said...
I saw the F* Michigan shirts. Honestly, it's more funny/pathetic than anything. Kind of like that idiot Chippendale from Wisconsin a few weeks back. I'm starting to feel like the Yankees here.
- October 21, 2007 1:00 AM
- Merrick 561 said...
You know the F* Michigan shirts have a simple explanation probably...Everyone likes to hate the wingest (both in # AND Percentage) teams in any sport at any level.. But in the end one word shuts them up.. SCOREBOARD!
- October 21, 2007 1:11 AM
- Jennifer said...
was in champaign for the game, at the opposite end of the stadium from all the other michigan fans... no longer have any voice whatsoever :) the illinois fans were LOUD for the first 3/4ths of the game (or at least 1/2... i thought they started to wimp out a bit)... was a pretty sweet first away game, i've gotta say, and i loved hanging around at the end of the game with all the michigan fans and players shouting to each other. might have some sweet pictures :) go blue!!
- October 21, 2007 1:22 AM
- Jessica said...
Yeah, I like how ABC couldn't show close-up shots of the crowd for most of the game unless they started looking at Michigan fans. Caught those shirts right at the beginning of the game with one of the first shots that panned over the crowd. The guy's shirt was kind of crunched up, but you could definitely tell what it said. Then they caught one dead on later in the game. Wonder if the "Fuck Michigan" store had special versions made up for Illini fans.
Oh, and Katie - I ended up with a FIANCE that doesn't like football. I still don't know how that one happened. He's coming to dread Saturdays now that we live together. I think he believes he has some chance of getting me to stop screaming at the tv. That should go away soon enough, though. A bookshelf, huh? I wonder if I can think up building projects for him to do every weekend...
- October 21, 2007 2:53 AM
- Katie said...
Jessica....you need to reconsider that marriage....LMAO!
- October 21, 2007 7:38 AM
- Jessica said...
Oh, he'll learn eventually. :D
- October 21, 2007 11:35 PM


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