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Tuesday, November 20, 2007
Lloyd Carr Stepping Down
Thus, scroll down for one last (painful) look back at the Tosu loss.
73 comments:
- Joshua said...
For some much needed LOL-inducing humor:
Best signs at College Gameday on Saturday
I'm voting "Tressell:Make me a sandwich". Although maybe we should all get together and buy him a Subway franchise....
- November 19, 2007 8:27 AM
- Katie said...
Does anyone know if the press conference is going to be televised live?
- November 19, 2007 9:36 AM
- surrounded in columbus said...
mgoblue.com is streaming live video.
- November 19, 2007 9:42 AM
- Crock said...
the live feed is up and running...
- November 19, 2007 9:54 AM
- Lysa said...
I guess I missed it =(
- November 19, 2007 10:34 AM
- Crock said...
lysa - ESPN news still has coverage on...
- November 19, 2007 10:40 AM
- Andy said...
Can't say that I am sad.
Coach Carr is a good man. However, the program needs a change.
- November 19, 2007 10:43 AM
- Ronnie said...
Carr is junk, UofM is junk.
- November 19, 2007 10:53 AM
- Maize said...
Lloyd left on his own. He left because he knew it was good for the TEAM. Lloyd never was selfish. Never thought of himself. He will be missed.
On a side note, Lloyd --in very few words--hinted that Les will not be the next coach.
- November 19, 2007 10:56 AM
- Lysa said...
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- November 19, 2007 11:00 AM
- Dezzi said...
I'm just waiting for ronnie's post to get deleted by Yost...
- November 19, 2007 11:00 AM
- TitleIX said...
feel better ronnie? cuz you sure as hell impressed all of us.
lloyd did a great job of reinforcig integrity and playing within the rules of the game. and he pointed out that Bo was not a Michigan man to start.
I kind of agree, I'm skeptical about Les Miles coming to Michigan.
- November 19, 2007 11:00 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
"Although maybe we should all get together and buy him a Subway franchise...."
I'm sure he can afford to buy as many as he wants out of petty cash.
- November 19, 2007 11:03 AM
- TitleIX said...
is that petty change from his contract or from the deals on the side?
- November 19, 2007 11:05 AM
- Dezzi said...
mmmmm..... Subway
- November 19, 2007 11:07 AM
- Lysa said...
Cap. U is cheap, the cable they carry only has ESPN and ESPN2 =(
- November 19, 2007 11:11 AM
- Katie said...
He will be impossible to replace. I agree, the fact that he stated the new head coach would have time to talk to recruits, and the Bo not a Michigan man, really tips the scales against Les Miles and that might be a good thing.
Thanks SIC for the link......ESPN cut it off at the questions, so I got to watch the entire thing. Much appreciated!
I am late!!! Gotta run.....latersssss
Oh and Ronnie.....One word for you....RESPECT!
- November 19, 2007 11:14 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
What deals?
- November 19, 2007 11:17 AM
- BP said...
Les Miles has to pay 1.5 million if he takes the Michigan job too, LSU pu t that in his contract. That's a pretty steep price for some one who is not going to give you much more than any one on your staff.
Personally if you watch LSU this year too they are winning off pure talent, I don't think Les Miles is that great of a coach. But that's just my opinion.
- November 19, 2007 12:01 PM
- George said...
I know it's a long shot but I'd really like to see what Norm Chow could do with our offense. I think Michigan would benefit from some new blood.
- November 19, 2007 12:41 PM
- Joshua said...
Hmmm, the Les thing is looking like anything but a forgone conclusion. Wether or not that's good i have no opinion on yet. I've seen him make some awfully gutsy calls this year- calls that may have been absolutely reckless- but everyone forgets that in the post-winning celebration. The guy definitely plays to win and not "not to lose". Is it worth it? I'm not so sure.
Just think- if we bought Tressell a Subway franchise maybe we could offer Maurice a job as a sandwich artist when he gets out.
And my vote is for hiring John Cooper: that guy really knows how get Michigan a win.
And Maize: I totally agree. It was the right time for the team and the program. The man totally deserves our respect for walking away, can't be an easy thing to do.
- November 19, 2007 12:59 PM
- Joshua said...
Damn misspellings!
- November 19, 2007 1:00 PM
- john said...
Texas fan here; we beat Les Miles' OkState teams four years running and only one win was even close. In 2004, his team blew a 35-point lead against Texas in Stillwater and that is quite an accomplishment, even against a team quarterbacked by Vince Young. You guys better be careful what you wish for.
- November 19, 2007 1:06 PM
- zen wizard said...
Zen Wizard's Theorem: The increased "job security" of a football team's punter is inversely proportional to that of the team's coach.
- November 19, 2007 1:09 PM
- BP said...
Maurice as a sandwich artist ... I like that.
- November 19, 2007 1:10 PM
- Yost said...
I agree, John.
- November 19, 2007 1:12 PM
- john said...
Thanks, Yost. I bleed Burnt Orange, but my second team is Michigan. Sang right along with "The Victors" at the Rose Bowl in 2005, even though I enjoyed the Texas win.
Good luck.
- November 19, 2007 1:20 PM
- Maize said...
Eh, after re hearing Lloyd, I am not so sure of my comment about "Les not being the next head coach." Lloyd might have been burying the hatchet with Les over Les' recruiting tactics.
- November 19, 2007 1:25 PM
- ohio_guy said...
Speaking of Miles when he was at OK State......I do believe he faced Tressel once, in the Alamo bowl.
Ohio State won 33-7.
- November 19, 2007 1:35 PM
- WingRG said...
Coach Carr is a class act, great person and a good football coach. Farewell!
- November 19, 2007 1:36 PM
- Michael said...
Growing up as a Buckeye fan in the 90s, I can honestly say I had no love for Lloyd Carr. Through the perspective of time and also a reversal in recent fortunes, I now can say that he is certainly a class act as a coach and a man of integrity. To me, he represents that old stodgy ball coach that personified this game before my time. Although he goes out with a bad recent history, I will certainly never forget his success or the way in which he competed.
- November 19, 2007 2:16 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Lee Corso said some very nice things. He mentioned that Lloyd Carr will leave pieces of himself with each of his players. I agree. He is a class act and has been a tremendous influence in the lives of hundreds of young men. I will miss him.
Saturday was not his fault. His only fault is his loyalty, I realized. That putz Mike Debord has no business coaching football in any capacity. I like Ron English and I hope that he will stay on as DC.
As for our next coach, I am still iffy on Les Miles. He is a good coach, but he is no Jim Tressel or Jim Leavitt. I say go after Brian Kelly. Another really interesting option--and I really want to know what everyone else thinks about this--is to talk to Chuck Martin, the current coach of two-time D-II champs GVSU. He succeeded Brian Kelly a few years ago and is now on 38-game winning streak. He could be our Tressel, minus the Uggs.
- November 19, 2007 2:55 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
feelin' blue (for a reason),
Good analysis, but...you got a problem with uggs?
- November 19, 2007 3:18 PM
- BARman said...
Brian Kelly is my vote!! The guy's done an amazing job every where he's been...
- November 19, 2007 3:22 PM
- TitleIX said...
I stand corrected folks.
It will be Coach Miles.
- November 19, 2007 3:28 PM
- threadogg said...
Word of advice from an old Buckeye fan, make sure a committee is formed and take considerable time in finding a replacement for a man of such integrity as Lloyd Carr or you may end up with a complete ***hole like John Cooper that you somehow can't ever get rid of. The Wolverines deserve the best and sometimes you find it right in your own backyard.
I'm also skeptical about Miles but guess it's none of my business so i'm gone...
- November 19, 2007 3:29 PM
- Crock said...
why do you say that? you always seem to know what's going on....?
- November 19, 2007 3:31 PM
- rex said...
I have to say as sad as I was to see Michigan lose Saturday the thought that Coach Carr was retiring on Monday made it even worse for me. I used to think he was a stuffy, gruff SOB, once my daughter started attending UofM I started watching more and really looked forward to his sideline humor with the reporters. One of my favorites was last year when we were beating Notre Dame at halftime so bad and the reporter asked Coach Carr "did you imagine you would be beating Notre Dame like this at halftime" and Coach Carr said "I really don't have much imagination" I loved it, and I hope Coach Carr has a great life, he has done great things for Michigan Football.
P.S. Do not hire Les Miles, winners win wherever they coach he should already have a National Championship with the talent he has at LSU, he'll lose in the SEC championship game and drop this year especially if Georgia winds up number 1 in the East.
- November 19, 2007 3:32 PM
- beast in 'bama said...
Agree, Rex. I always looked forward to Carr making a nice lunch out of some idiot sideline reporter...
But did you ever notice that he only put on the gruff act during sideline interviews with male (won't grace them with the title men) sideline reporters? He was always a gentleman with women. Even if they asked the same idiotic question that one of their male counterparts would have asked, Carr was always unfailingly polite and gracious with them - even though you could just tell he detested the question.
T9: I second Crock's question - are you hearing something from within the compound that we're not hearing?
- November 19, 2007 4:10 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I think that one major problem with Cooper was that he didn't understand the Rivalry. He thought it was another game. I don't know enough about the 90s, so I don't know if it was his coaching or if he didn't get his players to wake up to beat Michigan. Oh well, yay for us. To bad I wasn't a fan then to enjoy it. (I fell in love with Michigan football when I attended UM. Unfortunately, I have only been able to enjoy one win against OSU since becoming a fan.)
That said, Miles understands the rivalry. Still, despite his gutsy calls this year, I do not see him as having the same coaching acumen as Tressel, Jim Leavitt, Grobe, Tedford, or Brian Kelly, who would be great. (I love Carr. Debord sucks.) And smart guys from the region can come to understand the rivalry, especially as long as Lloyd Carr is around.
What do other people know and think about GVSU's Chuck Martin?
- November 19, 2007 4:18 PM
- Corey said...
Heard on Saturday that Les Miles' wife purchase $1M home in the AA area.
- November 19, 2007 4:26 PM
- Katie said...
I heard that as well.....but not from anyone that had first hand knowledge.
- November 19, 2007 4:31 PM
- carl tabb said...
If we had balls we'd look long and hard at Chuck Martin. GVSU is Division II but he took what Brian Kelly started and made it even more dominate and untouchable. He was D Coord for Kelly during their championship runs and then led them to 2 in a row as HC and the nation's longest (by a mile) winning streak. UM is a helluva long way from Div II, though. He may be too wet behind the ears.
- November 19, 2007 4:37 PM
- Out of Conference said...
If Les is even already looking at homes in AA, then he has the job. I find it surprising that he would take the Michigan job without first winning the SEC. Maybe he sees what may become of LSU's QB-to be's potential legal problems, and realizes he better get out while the getting is good with or without the SEC trophy.
- November 19, 2007 4:51 PM
- Katie said...
OOC, that is a rumor. Don't believe everything you read. I personally have a difficult time believing that a house would already have been purchased at this point. Especially for someone that is going to want to sit on any decision that may or may not have been made yet.
- November 19, 2007 4:55 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I read in a Columbus Dispatch article that the house-search rumor is a very popular one when a coach is about to step down. I wonder how it started.
- November 19, 2007 4:55 PM
- pacman said...
A fitting end...
Looking back on the season it seems the that 8 game win streak in the middle had a pair of complimentary bookends for the start and finish of the season. In the first two games we were embarrassed and humiliated because our defense couldn't do crap. In the last two games we were embarrassed and humiliated because our offense couldn't do crap. I guess you have to at least give a small tip of the hat to English for getting his group of men to improve. DeBord simply deserves a kick in the ass at the Ann Arbor city border line along with a "Don't bother coming back".
I also had some thoughts about what has happened this season as relates to Carr especially - and the entire coaching staff. Let's think about the changes in Carr's contract - and the unprecedented change he got for his staff.
Everyone knows that when you're in a do-or-die battle that when and if you create a "fall back" plan - falling back is almost always what happens. In order to overcome a major obstacle (aka Slimy Sweatervest from tOSU) and to win a war (UM vs. tOSU) you MUST be 100% committed. So what was the thinking in Carr's mind when he made those contract changes? I'm thinking he must have been thinking something along these lines: "Ok, I'm currently 1-5 against Tressel. There's no way I'll ever get back to 50% in this series before I WANT to retire. If I win next year (2007) I can retire and go out on top. If I lose next year, there's no way the Michigan faithful will support me any more and I may even get fired. So, either way 2007 is my last year. Tressel has forced me into retirement before I really wanted to - but this is the way it is."
Even if my guess as to what was in Carr's mind before the season started is only 10% true - that's enough to wreak havoc on yourself, your staff, and your young men on the team. I think Carr may very well have mentally sabotaged this season before it even got started. And now, looking back on the results for the year, I think the outcomes actually support this hypothesis. He even stated in his press conference today that he knew before the season started that he would retire at the end of this season.
Carr is a class act. He's a good man and he's done a lot of good for UM and Michigan football. Thank you for 1997 and all of the accomplishments! That said, Carr signed the surrender papers to Tressel last winter in his contract. It's now time for him to step aside to allow someone else to step up to the task of gaining domination of Tressel.
I wish Carr all the best. I pray NONE of his assistants will become our next head coach. And I pray that Martin will have the wisdom and ability to bring in Miles or Kelly.
- November 19, 2007 5:13 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Hey, Pacman,
Either Carr is a class act or he's not. You say he is and then go to great lengths to prove he's not. If Carr sabotaged the team this year with his calculations concerning retirement, I'd be tempted to call that a slimy act of self-preservation.
I think your hypothesis is interesting, but I don't buy it. I believe Carr is a class act (as I do Tressel uggs and all) and doesn't think along those lines.
- November 19, 2007 6:15 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Someone on ESPN said something that struck me regarding Carr. He is too grown up to base his decision to leave or not on his record against any particular coach.
BTW everyone, Michigan is about to get slighted again by the bowls. Capital One and Outback will probably pass on Michigan even though we beat Illinois and finished 2nd in the Big Ten. Wisconsin gets the nod over us because they had a creampuff OOC schedule, nevermind the fact that they almost lost to Citadel.
This is bullshit. We lost to Wisco on the road in a game that didn't matter. We beat Penn State and Illinois, who both beat Wisconsin. And I should add that we beat Illinois.
I'm going to complain about this. Not about bad calls, or anything else, but about this. This is not fair. In 1997 Tom Osbourne got the championship as a retirement present. In 2005 Iowa got the Outback over us. And whether we deserved a rematch or not last year, the ultimate decision was controversial, and Michigan did feel robbed even though it didn't complain. This year, it looks like Michigan is going to get completely robbed.
- November 19, 2007 6:37 PM
- TitleIX said...
i'm no journalist, just saying what i'm hearing when I put my ear to the ground.
and I believe my ear.
plus Lloyd made a point of repeating over and over things about a clean program, playing within the rules etc etc
and he made a comment about things that happen along the recruiting trail and how you put those things behind you. swipes at Miles???? maybe.
He didn't say much about sticking around the program, which seems odd for someone so dedicated to it. Not, however, an odd statement if you already know who the new coach will be and whether or not you can work with him.
And he made a slip of sorts regarding recruiting and not "wasting" the single visit the head coach gets. He talked about the new coach being able to go out and "secure" the recruiting class.
That's why I'm predicting an announcement once the SEC title is decided. ie, pre-bowl. That's my call on the situation.
And, lastly, Jim Carty's article in the A2 News is all about how great a guy Les Miles is and Carty's visit to Baton Rouge and the Miles' house earlier this year.
Uh, why the heck was Carty down there investigating a piece if people didn't already know it was Miles?????
I admit that I'm not great at math, but this is all starting to add up.
- November 19, 2007 7:16 PM
- Mikoyan said...
Personally, I'd like to see Michigan go for someone from either one of the directional schools (EMU, CMU, WMU), a lower tier Division IA school (the Navy coach would be awesome, he turned them around very well), a Division IAA or Division II school. Preferably someone who has made somewhat of a name for himself. They would be an unknown quantity and might surprise some folks. I think this is a time for rolling the dice.
As for Carr, I'll miss him but I don't think he's going far.
- November 19, 2007 7:35 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
For what its worth, ESPN MNF just did a spot on NFL coaches who might be interested in the job. They listed Jon Gruden & Bobby Petrino.
Gruden seems like a stretch but nfl rumors have for sometime swirled that Petrino regrets the move to the nfl & tha Blank may let him out of his K if he leaves the NFL.
A year ago Bobby would have been at the top of the list.
I agree w/ T9 & others that Lloyd's speech seemed more "burying the hatchet" than anything else, so it could be Les has it locked already.
IMHO- coaching isn't rocket science- even the "brilliant" ones do stupid shit like going for it on 4th & 1 from their own 29 in the first half. A lot of it is enthusiasm, prep, judging talent, and having balls. After 13 years of ALWAYS doing the "smaat" thing? I could give a little testosterone driven balls out stupidity for a change. We won't sit around bitching how we played not to lose, at least.
- November 19, 2007 7:54 PM
- Katie said...
I just read Carty's piece on Miles. I have to agree with T9, this seems like a sure thing. With Carr staying on as assistant AD, that will help keep the program clean.......as Miles would say "Let 'er Rip!!!"
- November 19, 2007 7:57 PM
- Lysa said...
Your link made my night! <3
- November 19, 2007 8:12 PM
- UTfan said...
I am a UT grad and I live in the D/FW area. It is difficult for me to get in-depth coverage of UM athletics and happenings. (The UM-OSU game story in the Sunday Morning News was buried on page 3 of the inside of the sports section and the brief AP story in this morning's DMN regarding Carr's impending retirement was relegated to page 7 of the sports section.) I did not have a chance to see the news conference today, so pardon me for asking a question to which everyone may already know the answer. My question(s)is as follows: did UM outline a process today for selecting the new coach? Specifically, will Carr be part of the selection process and were any timelines for getting the new coach onboard mentioned?
- November 19, 2007 8:33 PM
- Mikoyan said...
I forget the percentages and they were based on the NFL but sometimes it's better to just go for it rather than punt. The average NFL play gets about 5 or 6 yards (or something). So why give up a down in short yardage? Other than not having to face the bobbleheads the next day.
- November 19, 2007 8:46 PM
- Katie said...
Waves to UTFan----------->
Carr said that he would be involved only if asked by Martin. (Something to that effect)
I did not hear what Martin said in his presser, however if you go to MLive Ann Arbor (google it) You will find all the write ups from the Ann Arbor News and there is one on what Martin had to say about the search.
I did read he is putting together a search committee. It doesn't sound as if we are going to hear anything soon, if it is a lock on Miles, likely after the SEC championship we could hear, however I bet we won't hear until after January 7th. just my opinion, which seems to change as often as the wind this week, so take it for what it is worth. :o)
- November 19, 2007 8:47 PM
- Victoria said...
I hope Michigan goes for a small program coach with a record of winning with integrity. Nothing is worth sacrificing our reputation as a clean program. A $1.5M contract buyout to get Les Miles would be a step in the wrong direction.
- November 19, 2007 8:48 PM
- Joshua said...
Lysa: I've never been one to shy away from trying to make a woman's night, glad i could help. Let's see, that makes one woman's night in *counts days-scratch that weeks-scratch that...* oh hell, nevermind.
A few helpful links to help you guys have informed discussions about the coaching search. Note I didn't say "intelligent", just informed.
Carty's article on Miles
Michigan athletic director Bill Martin outlines search process
- November 19, 2007 9:06 PM
- Joshua said...
And f-ing WOW on the Brian Kelly stuff in the sidebar of Carty's article. I had forgotten about that. Guess he's out.
- November 19, 2007 9:11 PM
- Katie said...
I read that too Joshua, YIKES, I highly doubt that he would be considered with that blemish on his record.
- November 19, 2007 9:12 PM
- Joshua said...
And just for the record I'm making no judgment as to Kelly or that situation, I was living in either Ohio or the Caribbean when it all went down and don't have the facts.
Just stating that Carty's comments could be rather damning, as perception is reality. Whether or not the man was in the wrong he still had to defend himself. Can't imagine the university putting itself in such a situation. Too bad b/c by all accounts the guy can coach.
- November 19, 2007 9:37 PM
- CincoDeMaizo said...
Discounting Les Miles because he lost 1 game to Tressel while coaching Ok St is about as brilliant as believing that Cooper was the perfect guy for OSU based upon his 1 win over Bo while he was coaching ASU.
- November 19, 2007 10:14 PM
- Lysa said...
I agree, with that belmish on Kelly's record it doubtfull that he will get chosen.
Before anyone says anything to me, I just heard of Kelly, and I do not know all the facts of that story, but if he had to defend his comments, its not a good thing.
- November 19, 2007 10:17 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Interesting article.
"Les Miles absolutely, positively will NOT be the next head football coach at the University of Michigan."
- Pete Fiutak
College Football News.Com
- November 19, 2007 10:23 PM
- CincoDeMaizo said...
Pete Fiutak's prediction may prove right, but not for the reason he thinks.
Michigan will offer the job to Miles, it is a slam dunk - he is a Michigan Man with ties to Bo both as a player and coach.
If Miles isn't the next coach, its because he chooses to stay at LSU, not because Michigan shys away from him
- November 19, 2007 10:33 PM
- Katie said...
Interesting indeed Whets! Am I the only one feeling a slight tingle, a little buzz in the air.....a shimmer of fear.......Michigan has an opportunity to have something exciting happen here, and the risk of something horrible as well.
- November 19, 2007 10:37 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
This latest development will keep things interesting around here through January. That's a good thing.
All the speculating and rumor-mongering will make for great exchanges.
For instance: the best UM can hope for is a coach who can win about 50% against Tressel. No one's going to own J.T. He's too good.
- November 19, 2007 11:11 PM
- Katie said...
Ahhh....Whets, that could have been said about Lloyd about 10 years ago ......times do change.....never say never ;o)
- November 19, 2007 11:16 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I think the racist comment issue was overblown and taken out of context. Carty tends to exaggerate.
- November 19, 2007 11:19 PM
- fireupchips said...
I am not exactly sure what Kelly said during the murder case but remember the players involved were on the team prior to Kelly coming to CMU. Anyone remember who coached CMU before Kelly ????
Right, our favorite current (and hopefully former) offensive coordinator Mike Debord.
Kelly has taken his fair share of questionable players in his day, but it has been out of necessity due to the level that he has been coaching. This should not be a problem with the wolverines.
- November 20, 2007 12:11 AM
- pacman said...
Whetstonebuck -
Take a look at what Brian has posted on mgoblog. A letter from a John Eagal - and Brian's comments following the letter pretty much support my contention. And contrary to what you seem to believe - I still do believe that Carr IS a class act. He just wasn't 100% on his game this year - and that caused the major problems.
- November 20, 2007 4:52 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
I read the letter and the comments. The gist of it is that Lloyd lost his fastball and should have retired a year earlier. I wouldn't argue that. In fact, I don't know if that's really true or not--interesting hypothesis though.
Your previous comments portray Lloyd as thinking in a premeditated and self-serving way because of the corner Tressel put him in. That's what I have trouble accepting. I don't think Carr thinks along those lines.
- November 20, 2007 5:42 PM


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Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Got Michigan?
Thus, instead of being sold for beef, the owners of the 30-cattle family farm 80 miles northwest of Detroit say they are "willing to sell the steer for promotional or mascot use instead of shipping it to the slaughterhouse."
Mascot use? With a cow? Whose idea was this, the cow's?
And for what school? The big Hindu university in Michigan I'm not familiar with? Or perhaps a certain - wait for it - "Moo" U?
So what does the cow think about this potential pardon?...
You know, if the whole "school spirit" angle works and the cow above avoids bovine death row as a result of a lucky birthmark, it's going to be like a real life Far Side cartoon on farms across America next week. Cattle from coast-to-coast will be "tatting" up to try to gain a little cow clemency.
Hell, by Sunday, every cow in Ohio is going look like this...
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- ohio_guy said...
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- February 19, 2008 2:20 AM
- ohio_guy said...
who ever thinks that looks like Michigan needs to look at a map.
In reality, Saginaw Bay is much larger and extends further south, and the eastern edge of the thumb doesn't stick out that far to the east.
- February 19, 2008 2:24 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
I told you so, Cletus.
This is what happens when you start messin' round with that cloning thang.
I suggest a recall. Those cows appear to be mad.
The M cow looks like a prank. Probably a UM art student's work. The second cow seems quite possible. Evidence of Intelligent Design if you ask me. For Irish fans et al, it would settle the question of who God roots for...
- February 19, 2008 6:33 AM
- srudoff said...
I wonder what Jim Carty would say about this.....oh wait, Jim's working on a much more serious article right now. Rumors of a huge expose about academic fraud at a certain midwestern university. The FSU of the West? Details to follow.....
- February 19, 2008 7:42 AM
- god of the whoppers said...
Here was Drew Sharp's input twop weeks ago:
He must keep Cow away from Jim Tressel.
He must do whatever it takes.
Failure is not an option.
this just in:
Michigan landing super recruit Cow would be an overrated victory
- February 19, 2008 8:26 AM
- beast in 'bama said...
"Mascot use? With a cow? Whose idea was this, the cow's?"
Bevo's always thought it was a good idea...
- February 19, 2008 8:36 AM
- Vadatripp said...
"Rumors of a huge expose about academic fraud at a certain midwestern university. The FSU of the West? Details to follow....."
OMG, you mean the OSU booster who gave Pryor the Corvette blabbed? I'm so sorry.
- February 19, 2008 8:37 AM
- TitleIX said...
Bevo is a boy....
ergo not a cow
says yonder city girl
and ohio guy--you may want to check your map because that sure as heck looks like the lower peninsula mitten to me....
- February 19, 2008 9:10 AM
- Joshua said...
Now it all makes sense. Buckeye fans taught the Chick-fila cows to spell.
Eat mor chickin.
- February 19, 2008 9:27 AM
- BARman said...
Ohmigod, Yost--this is one of your funniest!!
Thanks for the pick me up, man...
- February 19, 2008 9:39 AM
- Daniel said...
The udder is directly below the birthmark, so that first picture would appear to be geographically correct.
- February 19, 2008 9:40 AM
- beast in 'bama said...
Technically speaking IX, Bevo is a steer, not a boy. And he still thinks this is a good idea.
But please remember to be careful with any form of bovine mascot:
Bevo II once charged an SMU cheerleader, who had to defend himself with his megaphone. Bevo III escaped from his enclosure and ran amok across campus. Bevo IV once attacked a parked car, while Bevo V broke loose and scattered the Baylor band. More recent Bevos have had a more peaceful tenure.
Contrary to popular belief, Bevo (currently #14) is not drugged during football games. Bred to be docile, he is riled only in the most extreme of circumstances, such as once during a lightning storm during a game against Rice, in which he broke away from his handlers.
- February 19, 2008 9:53 AM
- Joshua said...
I guess technically the cowshit would fall south and east, so it does make sense, the cow's even aromatically correct.
- February 19, 2008 9:54 AM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Isn't Carty the same guy who made the Drew Sharp-esque comparison of Rich Rodriguez to Nick Saban? Yeah, that's a source of reason and integrity.
Yeah, I recall taking a geology course just to fill a couple of credits after my audit revealed I was 2 credits shy from graduating. About two-thirds of the football team was in there. So while there are some student-athletes who skate by, to hold the whole institution responsible in a Harbaugh-like manner is like throwing the baby out with the bath water. There are lots of positive examples of student athletes in "Bo's lasting lessons".
However, if there's been widespread academic fraud at a certain Midwestern university -- one which has conferred degrees on many in this forum, then I think you'll find that folks will stand up to the accusations and try to fix it rather than trying to hide it (and probably much to the chagrin of Carty and notso-Sharp).
- February 19, 2008 9:59 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
How much would it suck if the farmer's last name were Tressel? Another case of Tressel owning Michigan? I hope the fuck not.
Beast in Bama,
I like Texas a little. They're classy fans but I don't like Shady Mack Brown. I'll root against them if I need them to lose, of course, but other than that I like 'em. Oh, and the girls are hot.
But anyways, an issue I have with Texas is that a lot of things in their school tradition are in reaction to things done by Texas A&M. Texas Fight, while a great fight song, was written as the flipside to "Aggies Fight" and contains references to A&M. Even the writer of the fight song acknowledged that it was intended to counteract anti-Texas jeers by A&M.
Also, there is a myth that the name Bevo came from an attempt by UT students to get rid of the "13-0" that A&M students branded into the longhorn mascot.
i just don't think that a program's tradition should be so defined by its rival. I mean, a rivalry is a huge part of any program. OSU fans pride themselves in their recent success over UM. A rival shouldn't influence the other program so much. I am not being so clear, and this post has gotten too long. You know what I mean, I hope.
- February 19, 2008 10:48 AM
- Lane said...
yost, i'm willing to wait for stuff, as long as it's as clever as this....especially the second picture and comment. funny thing is i was thinking the same thing even before i scrolled down and saw it.
good stuff - keep it up!
- February 19, 2008 10:50 AM
- intellidouche said...
What the hell? Shit fucker?
- February 19, 2008 10:56 AM
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- February 19, 2008 11:18 AM
- Joshua said...
I have no clue how you made the leap to that quote, but I almost spewed my tasty carbonated beverage out my nostrils.
- February 19, 2008 11:19 AM
- kristy said...
"hell, by sunday, every cow in ohio will look like this one." That's okay. They will blend in with all the bumper stickers, flags, welcome to our home signs, and everything else in this god forsaken state that has that phrase on it. I hate living down here!!! GO BLUE!!!
- February 19, 2008 12:16 PM
- Cowbell Commander said...
That Ohio State cow looks like it has a serious BEEF with the Wolverines. ZING!
- February 19, 2008 12:24 PM
- zen wizard said...
If this cow is allowed to live, the Upper Penninsula will secede from the United States!
I would like a butterflied filet of Lansing, medium rare.
- February 19, 2008 12:28 PM
- zen wizard said...
With proper marination, Windsor, Canada can make a nice brisket.
- February 19, 2008 12:34 PM
- beast in 'bama said...
feelin' blue:
The following lyrics are from the "Aggie War Hymn." You tell me how you'd react to this:
Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck!
Hullabaloo, Caneck! Caneck!
Good-bye to Texas University
So long to the Orange and the White
Good luck to the dear old Texas Aggies
They are the boys that show the real old fight
"The eyes of Texas are upon you..."
That is the song they sing so well
So good-bye to Texas University
We're going to beat you all to--
Rough Tough! Real Stuff! Texas A & M!
Saw Varsity's horns off!
Saw Varsity's horns off!
Saw Varsity's horns off!
SHORT! Ay!
Varsity's horns are sawed off!
Varsity's horns are sawed off!
Varsity's horns are sawed off!
SHORT! Ayyyyyy!
Now, I don't know about you, but if a group of crazed farmers is chanting about sawing off my horns, I'm likely to respond in one way or another.
Seriously, the fight songs of many Southern schools pay some such "tribute" to their rivals. It's just a different approach.
- February 19, 2008 1:01 PM
- Jim Harbaugh Scramble said...
Nice post. Even in the offseason the M-Zone comes through with some quality content.
- February 19, 2008 2:41 PM
- ohio_guy said...
"and ohio guy--you may want to check your map because that sure as heck looks like the lower peninsula mitten to me...."
well, then I sorry to hear about the doubt that dried up Saginaw Bay...and I also wasn't aware that Canada gave you all of Lake St, Clair, the southern part of lake Huron and all the land in Ontario that is west of London, ON and north of route 401.
because that would all have to happen for this image on the cow to be considered accurate.
- February 19, 2008 2:42 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Beast in Bama,
Thanks for the clarification. Is Aggies War Hymn an official fight song? I mean, this whole thing goes back 100 years, but I just don't like addressing a rival in an official school fight song. An anti-rival cheer I understand, but a fight song? Why honor a rival by acknowledging it? But that's just me. The Victors doesn't acknowledge Michigan's rivals, although I am disappointed that there are not many anti-OSU cheers.
I don't know. All fight songs seem to praise a school's heroics on the field, so perhaps it's not such a large step to actually mention your rival in a fight song. I don't want to get much further into it, as that would be to debate the entire essence of a fight song or something like that.
- February 19, 2008 2:48 PM
- Clove said...
There's no Traverse Bay either. This cow is a fraud.
The problem with Ohio State fans is that most of them did not go to Ohio State.
OSU class of '98
- February 19, 2008 3:47 PM
- TitleIX said...
chick filet? joshua you crack me up.
thanks Yost for getting us all goin' again.
Like riding a bike....
- February 19, 2008 5:42 PM

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Activists who want U.S. Supreme Court Justice David Souter to pay a personal price for ruling New London, Conn., could seize private property for a development project rallied Sunday in Souter's small hometown, arguing the town should take Souter's home to build a hotel....I've got to imagine that the kind of people who live in Weare, New Hampshire don't like wild-eyed activists from Los Angeles and elsewhere coming to town and staging rallies. And physically impinging on a Supreme Court Justice is no way to demonstrate a concern for rights. You may think it's cute and you can get your publicity, but I'm writing this one down on my list of self-defeating protests (right after this one).
[Organizer Logan Clements of Los Angeles] was greeted by rousing applause from about 60 people who attended Sunday's rally, some coming from as far away as Texas and Pennsylvania.
He said the five Supreme Court justices who sided with the Connecticut city on the eminent domain controversy "shot a hole in the Constitution." He said opponents should organize nationwide and vote officials out of office if they push similar projects.
Doug Schwartz, of New London, Conn., urged the crowd on. He said eminent domain problems have plagued the city for decades.
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39 comments:
- Simon said...
It's one of those things that, at first glance, seems a little silly. But when you think about it, it is actually quite an effective way of highlighting the potential for abuse created by the Kelo majority.
It perhaps makes little sense that it is Justice Souter rather than Justice Stevens who has been targeted, but perhaps Souter was the only one who owned targettable property.
I'm ambivalent about this one. I'm not going to cheer them on, but I'm certainly not going to decry any efforts to demonstrate just how absurd a ruling Kelo was.
- Duffy Nichols said...
I'll cheer them on, and I'm not sure what is self-defeating about this. Even if he doesn't get a case of his own medicine, he might get a whiff of it--and my guess is that this is the protestors' goal.
- HaloJonesFan said...
Yes, and the Justices who were in the minority on Roe v. Wade should be raped.
- Simon said...
HaloJonesFan -
And this would accomplish precisely what? Quite aside from the important point - which is that anyone who advocates anyone being raped should have their nuts cut off - all of the Justices in Roe, on both sides were male, and all are dead. Neither males nor corpses can get pregnant.
The comparison is silly, in poor taste, and inapt.
- bearbee said...
Northerners went down South to assist in registration drives,
civil rights marchers went to Chicago and Cicero, Viet Nam war protestors descended on Chicago, Cindy Sheehan and others picketed in Crawford TX, marches on Washinton DC and vigils outside the White House are frequent.
I don't regard it as cute.......seems to me to be democracy in action
If impinging becomes a question of public safety, threat of violence, destruction of property or invasion of private property then the protest needs to be limited.
- Jake said...
"I've got to imagine that the kind of people who live in Weare, New Hampshire don't like wild-eyed activists from Los Angeles."
They like it enough to put it on the ballot by signing a petition. It will be voted on in the next election. I believe it will win as the Supreme Court's legislation is tremendously unpopular all over the US.
- gj said...
As with Roe, if enough people don't like this decision, they should pass a constitutional ammendment. Harrassing a Supreme Court Justice -- or seeking to change the court rather than the constitution -- isn't a healthy way for a society to deal with constitutional issues.
- SippicanCottage said...
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- Simon said...
"As with Roe, if enough people don't like this decision, they should pass a constitutional ammendment."
I've seen this argument made from time to time: that it isn't really so much of a problem that the Supreme Court is busy writing a new Constitution for us, because if the people really don't like it, they can "simply" pass an amendment.
It is true that in a statutory case - say, if Congress disagrees with Gonzales v. Oregon - it can pass legislation to moot that decision. But the bar is considerably higher for amending the Constitution; yes, of course a sustained majority can amend the Constitution, but there is a grossly asymetrical nature to a situation where what can be wrought by five Justices can only be undone by three-quarters of the states in concert with supermajorities of both houses of Congress (or, as an alternative, the potential suicide pact of a new Constitutional Convention called by two thirds of the states).
To suggest this as a normative argument is to grotesquely subvert the Constitution by inverting it. The Framers made it difficult to amend the Constitution; the Supreme Court is supposed to be the defender of the Constitution, but to do so necessarily places it in a position to do great harm, and do great harm it has. It is, of course, the age old problem: qui custodes custode. The most controversial decision of our time is Roe, yet in over three decades, neither side has been able to marshall sufficient force to legitimize or repudiate the decision by amending the Constitution, despite the easy bandying of majoritarian claims. If even this decision - still unsettled after so many years - cannot yield an amendment, how can the possibility of reversal by amendment be taken any more seriously as a check on the Supreme Court than impeachment? The system you describe is neither democratic nor constitutional: it is essentially rule by lack of revolution. If the Constitution were easier to amend, the power of a rogue Court might be less of a concern - but then, if the Constitution were easier to amend, perhaps there would be less concern on the part of the Court to stamp their views on it.
- Simon said...
Oh, and:
Harrassing a Supreme Court Justice -- or seeking to change the court rather than the constitution -- isn't a healthy way for a society to deal with constitutional issues.
I see. Seeking to change the court other than by the means specified in the Constitution isn't "a healthy way for society to deal with constitutional issues" - but the Court bypassing Article V and CHANGING the Constitution is "a healthy way for society to deal with constitutional issues"?
What world are you living in? Try to imagine, for a moment, that the Hamdi plurality had gone a little further - as far as Justice Thomas, for example. How far would the Court have to go before you'd be less sanguine about its abuse of power?
- Michael H said...
2000 years ago, a teacher named Jesus scaldingly rebuked the legal experts of his day because they piled interpretation upon interpretation until their interpretation of the law bore no resemblance to that which was originally handed down. It seems we are in the same sort of situation here: an interpretation here, an intepretation there, throw in a little stare decisis (because stability is important, you know, even if it's based on wrongheaded rulings), and we're so far from the intent of the constitution that we've stood it on its head. How can anyone actually think that the founding fathers would have thought they were putting in place a legal framework to allow big-money interests to confiscate private property for private economic purposes? The Lost Liberty Hotel seems like a great project to illustrate the real-world effects of our legal system drifting so far from its moorings.
- dick said...
As a former resident of Weare, NH (I lived there while Souter was in residence as the judge in that district) what will happen is that the townspeople at their annual town meeting will discuss the motion for and against taking Souter's home and will probably vote against it. The townspeople are fiercely in favor of a man's home is his castle and while they may hate the position Souter took his home there is his home and they will probably not vote in favor of taking it. Weare is not a backwoods kind of place. It is very pretty and has a lot of woods and hills an so forth but the people take their votes at the annual meeting very seriously and they have real debates there. It is the best of the proverbial New England before the idiots took over so much of the place. The people like to take care of their own problems there and also make up their own minds.
I do have to admit that I would very much think long and hard about voting for this initiative. Kelo really upset me a lot.
- TidalPoet said...
Protests are about publicity these days. This location will garner it. It's not much more complicted than that.
I doubt Justice Souter will come and make a speech apologizing for his position and reverse it in the face of public opposition. But it may galvanize enough folks to call their Senators and Congressman in the hopes of passing legislation to limit the damage that the ruling caused.
- Honey Badger said...
Mob behavior at its worst and harassment, pure and simple. What's up with defacing his mailbox? Stalk much? Juvenile.
I wonder if they'd be so cavalier in their trespass if they knew the good Justice packed a 12-gauge. Aren't all Libertarians in favor of giving trespassers a backside full of buckshot?
I sure would be.
- HaloJonesFan said...
"...it may galvanize enough folks to call their Senators and Congressman in the hopes of passing legislation to limit the damage that the ruling caused."
Which is, ultimately, what the Supreme Court wanted to accomplish with the Kelo ruling--they wanted to make it clear that Eminent Domain is the legislature's problem.
"The comparison is silly, in poor taste, and inapt."
As is the suggestion that Souter's house should be bulldozed to teach him a lesson.
- Simon said...
"The townspeople are fiercely in favor of a man's home is his castle and while they may hate the position Souter took his home there is his home and they will probably not vote in favor of taking it."
Perhaps it's just me - I mean, I'm not a New Englander - I would think that the chances that they will vote TO take the property would go up in direct proportion to how much they believe that "a man's home is his castle." Thanks to a ruling supported by Justice Souter, their Castles are now at risk of being taken by any Tom, Dick or Harry who wants to do some economic redevelopment, while a year ago, it could only be taken for a public use. Granted, when you lose your house, it's small comfort that it's for public use, but to have it taken for someone else's profit is to add insult to injury.
- ATMX said...
Yes, and the Justices who were in the minority on Roe v. Wade should be raped.
Well, only if the Justices who were in the majority can be retroactively aborted.
You must have seen that coming.
- Too Many Jims said...
Property rights advocates pursuing this makes as much sense as Pro-life advocates pursuing murder as a means to protest Roe v. Wade.
Ends justify the means.
- jbisch said...
Why? It's reductio ad absurdum. What's wrong with that?
- David Garland said...
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- David Garland said...
The protest is misdirected.
There is absoltely nothing that prevents a state from adopting constitutional provisions that afford greater protections of individual rights than provided by the Federal Constitution.
The protestors may as well be outside the homes of justices on the highest court in Connecticut --these jurists could have put a stop to all this under state law, without troubling the Supreme Court to decide what the Federal Constitution has to say about the issue.
Souter and the other justices are merely interpreting and applying the Federaal Constitution, and a majority have conclded that the proposed development is a "public use." That is consistent with a long line of precedent.
At this point, people who are truly interested in protecting their property against a "taking" would be working to pass an amendment to their state constitution rather than protesting outside the home of a Supreme Court justice.
It's a publicity stunt, pure and simple.
- jbisch said...
You say that as if publicity isn't a great way to begin to gin up support for your cause. Not everyone is as hip to the constitutional bruhahas of the moment that Althouse readers are. If a SCOTUS justice loses his house using the mechinism that he OKd in a ruling, that's worthy of national news. Maybe it'll start a conversation and generate momentum.
- David Garland said...
Obviously it generated publicity. There can be be no debate on that, and everyone enjoys a First Amendment right to freedom of speech. No problems there.
My point is, let's see this for what it really is: An attempt to depict Justice Souter and others in the Kelo majority as extreme, liberal jurists who place little value on property rights. All based on how they interpret that provision of the Fifth Amendment that reads: "private property [shall not] be taken for public use, without just compensation."
The problems with that perspectice are several, and one which I find glaring is that Connecticut law provides the same protection:
"[T]he property of no person shall be taken for public use, without just compensation therefor."
Similar provisions can be found in numerous other state constitutions, and, overwhelmingly state courts have not interpreted the "public use" limitation to forbid takings for development projects.
Kelo is not a liberal perversion of the Fifth Amendment, although that is the picture that protestors are trying to paint. It is very much in the mainstream of takings jurisprudence.
- YoPopa said...
david garland
said "Kelo is not a liberal perversion of the Fifth Amendment, although that is the picture that protestors are trying to paint. It is very much in the mainstream of takings jurisprudence."
I have to agree partially with that, and I would add that it was not a radical, ultra-liberal piece of straw that broke the camel's back. But the camel's back was broken.
The majority justices in Kelo took a not very big step. It was the easy step for them because it was so much like all the other steps that had come before down the road to hell.
"The townspeople are fiercely in favor of a man's home is his castle and while they may hate the position Souter took his home there is his home and they will probably not vote in favor of taking it."
Don't be too sure of that. I was one of the folks pounding the pavement in Weare on Saturday. I only talked to the residents of about 24 homes and I got 16 enthusiastic supporters to sign on. Of those who declined only one couple seemed like people who take the time to vote.
- Simon said...
"There is absoltely nothing that prevents a state from adopting constitutional provisions that afford greater protections of individual rights than provided by the Federal Constitution."
I agree, in the sense that - as I discussed here, this is precisely what the Ninth Amendment means.
However, while a State may afford its citizens greater protection than the U.S. Constitution allows, they cannot afford them less protection (or at least, while they can, doing so can and should lead to a Federal challenge). Of course the legislatures of the several states may nullify Kelo by tightening their own emminent domain laws - but they may choose not to, and Kelo's effect is to grant the States discretion where the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Federal Constitution deprive them of it.
More so than perhaps any case since Maryland v. Craig, Kelo's substitution of "public purpose" for "public use" reminds one of Justice Black's dire warning, dissenting from Griswold, that "[o]ne of the most effective ways of diluting or expanding a constitutionally guaranteed right is to substitute for the crucial word or words of a constitutional guarantee another word or words, more or less flexible and more or less restricted in meaning." It might, perhaps, be arguable that economic development is a public purpose (I think that to be somewhat tenuous, and the Kelo majority makes no substantial effort to make that case), but it is certainly not a public use.
I suppose it could be argued that, as a matter of precedent, Kelo - like Roper - was correctly decided. But to permit this commits the Anglophile's mistake identified by Steven Calabresi in The Tradition of the Written Constitution: Text, Precedent, and Burke, viz., "our Constitutional tradition, unlike Britain's, is one where we venerate the [text of the Constitution] above all else [including precedent, ] caselaw or practice . . . [those] who are not textualists are actually secret anglophiles who mistake the American Constitution for the British Constitution where there are islands of text in a sea of tradition, instead of the other way around."
Stare decisis serves the valuable purpose of maintaining stability in the law, but it developed in the British system, where there is no written touchstone comparable to our Constitution, and when precedent starts to lead us into decisions which may square with precedent, but can no longer be squared with the Constitution's text, as it was originally understood, we must periodically re-evaluate, look to the text once again, to steady our bearings, and, when neccessary, correct course. Those who defend Kelo are left to uneasily defend a decision which essentially deprives the clause it interprets of coherent content.
As I pointed out at the time (and my view has not essentially changed since):
"If the takings clause can be read to mean that as long as the taking can, by some means, be connected to an eventual-but-abstracted public use (in this case, the increased taxes the city believes will stem from the taking will have a public use, even if the taking itself does not), why couldn't that same line of reasoning allow other provisions to be similarly read? For example, take the commerce clause. In the modern world, what activity is there that does not, in some eventual-but-abstracted manner, impact on interstate commerce and one's ability to participate therein? The eventual-but-abstract relationship test you suggest would turn the commerce clause into a blank cheque thorugh which Congress could excercise the plenary powers which it was so deliberately and clearly denied by the Constitution. Fortunately the Supreme Court would invalidate any such attempt as ultra vires. Oh - wait…"
- Wade_Garrett said...
Bearbee -- How is it democracy in action, exactly? I disagreed with the Kelo majority, but that doesn't make this protest democracy in action. Courts aren't democratic institutions.
- Wade_Garrett said...
Calling this democracy in action is foolish. Not to repeat myself, but part of living in a democracy is that there is a process for resolving disputes, and the homeowners in New London lost. Sorry guys.
I've spent a lot of time in New London, where the Kelo case originated. On principle, I disagree with the ruling in Kelo, but I also see how the development with really help that area. It is right next to a naval submarine base, the Coast Guard Academy, and the Foxwoods and Mohegan Sun casinos. There has been an influx of higher-income people into the area in recent years, and this development reflects those demographic changes. I can't say the legislature acted irrationally when it passed the ordinance.
Still, do we really want to do this? Would it be a good idea to burn flags in the driveway of every Justice who upholds the first Amendment? Tresspass on the property of judges who seek to limit the second Amendment, because they can't shoot us in retaliation?
- TidalPoet said...
"Democracy in action" doesn't mean taking a decision and saying, "Ok folks, pack up, we're done. Next."
Protesting IS a valid right of expression (and that hurt to type) and is a large part of our democracy. While you may not like the venue or the reasoning they've taken, to dismiss it as something other than democracy is a bit elitist. (not saying you are, but that dismissing something like that seems so)
If everyone quit and went home after losing, well, this country would be quite a different, less free place.
- Wade_Garrett said...
Tidalpoet - I agree with you about protests in general, but retaliating against a public servant in his private like like this makes me uncomfortable.
- SarahWeddington said...
It's ironic you cite Black from Griswold when he signed on to the 1954 Berman v Parker opinion that Kelo was largely based on.
Black would have been in the majority in Kelo. As would the 30+ other Justices over the past 100 yrs that all unanimously decided that public use and public purpose are largely synonomous and that it is the job of the legislature to reach that decision, not the job of the court.
Look at Old Dominion, berman v Parker, Midkiff, Munn v Illinois, and one other case from 1897 that escapes me.
The Kelo decision was the correct one, Thomas' law office history notwithstanding. Thomas was the activist in that case.
- dick said...
The problem is that the homeowners should not have lost just because a bunch of yuppies moved into the area. It gives the impression, probably rightfully, that the yuppies are justified in saying I have mine and I don't want to live next to lower middle class people. Give me my Starbucks and my marinas and screw them. If that is the impression that new London wants to present, they succeeded. I hope they are now stuck with the property that nobody wants and nobody pays taxes on. They deserve it.
- dick said...
Just as a PS, it is justice because it shows that even though these people are justices of the Supreme Court, they are still subject to the same laws that the rest of us are. If the town of Weare chooses to have a hotel built on the site of Souter's home, then based on his judgment in Kelo the town is entitled to because it would be an economic development. Why should the citizens with up to 100 years or more of their family living in a home that has been kept up lose that home because some yuppies want upscale marinas there instead of the proles.
- Too Many Jims said...
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Why? It's reductio ad absurdum. What's wrong with that?"
Reductio ad absurdum is a rhetorical device used in arguments. These people are doing more than making an argument, they are trying to take his property. If they really believe that Kelo was wrong and that people have a natural/constitutional right to their property (that is damaged by Kelo), I do not believe they advance their cause by abrogating anyone's rights.
- TidalPoet said...
Abrogate someone's rights by using the laws as they are written. They aren't abrogating anything, they are having a town take someone's property using due process.
Obviously it's a nasty and spiteful thing to do, but according to the Supreme Court, not illegal.
- Simon said...
I cite Justice Black when he is right, and decline to do so when he is wrong; stare decisis aside, an opinion's merits are its pursuasive merits and none other; Justice Black wrote many fine opinions, but one notes that while he joined Berman, he did not write separately, so I think your assertion is - while far from unreasonable - unsupportable. Perhaps the Justice Black of 1965 had attained a wisdom that the Justice Black of a decade earlier had lacked, but in any instance, I think what he said, not what opinions he might have joined, to be more indicative of his disposition.
I think your 1897 case is Chicago, Burlington, and Quincy Railroad v. City of Chicago, 166 U.S. 226 (1897), and the discussion within it hinges on whether or not due process requirements were satisfied; that is, "whether 'due process of law' requires compensation to be made or secured to the owner of private property taken for public use," id. at 233 (cf. id. at 241) (holding that "[i]n our opinion, a judgment of a state court, even if it be authorized by statute, whereby private property is taken for the state or under its direction for public use, without compensation made or secured to the owner, is, upon principle and authority, wanting in the due process of law required by the fourteenth amendment of the constitution of the United States, and the affirmance of such judgment by the highest court of the state is a denial by that state of a right secured to the owner by that instrument") (cf. id. at 248) ("[t]he principal point of dispute between the parties [in this case] [i]s whether the railroad company, by reason of the opening of the street, [i]s entitled to recover a sum equal to the difference between the value of the land in question, as land, without any restriction on its right to use it for any lawful purpose, and the value of the land when burdened with the right of the public to use it for the purposes of a street crossing"). This has everything to do with the attendant compensation due on the excercise of emminent domain, and nothing to do with the underlying question before us today, which is whether emminent domain must be excercised for public use: the City of Chicago Court does not address that issue; that the taking in question (a street crossing, undeniably - and undenied by the litigants - a public use) is a public use is assumed as given.
The first problem with your citation of Berman v. Parker, 348 U.S. 26 (1954), is that the case in question was dealing with the District of Columbia, a very different proposition than any which would apply to the States, if one does not accept (and I do not) the countertextual Bolling v. Sharpe (347 U.S. 497) argument that the Fourteenth Amendment applies the same strictures to the states as to the Federal Government. In my view, the Fourteenth Amendment incorporates the protections of the Bill of Rights against the States by way of the piveleges or immunities clause - this leads to a perhaps different characterization of how they are applicable than our friends who support incorporation via the due process clause (or, in the case of Justice Blackmun, you know, whatever peg is handy to hang that hat on). In any instance, then, at the outset I should note that whatever Berman might say about the Federal power of emminent domain, I do not necessarily accept follows to state power of emminent domain.
More importantly, even if we assume arguendo the relevance of Berman, that case argues, at core:
"Subject to specific constitutional limitations, when the legislature has spoken, the public interest has been declared in terms well nigh conclusive. In such cases, the legislature, not the judiciary, is the main guardian of the public needs to be served by social legislation, whether it be Congress legislating concerning the District of Columbia or the States legislating concerning local affairs. This principle admits of no exception merely because the power of eminent domain is involved."
(Berman, supra, at 31-2). This is less a decision - and more an abdication on the part of the Court, a fortiori because - as Justice Douglas should well know - while "[t]he power of Congress over the District of Columbia includes all the legislative powers which a state may exercise over its affairs . . . [it has] the police power," the District of Columbia is not a state, and the police power of the state is usually regulated by the democratic process. If the citizens of New London do not like the State's use of emminent domain, they, at least, retain the option of removing their legislators. The residents of the District of Columbia do not. Even if Kelo did follow logically from Berman, and even if I did believe that stare decisis afforded protection to a wrongly-decided case of this nature (in my view, at best, stare decisis can only protect a decision which is widely-accepted and which has fostered legitimate reliance on the part of those it protects), I do not accept Berman, and so take it as no authority for Kelo.
Lastly, I think your contention that Justice Thomas' opinion is "activist" borders on the absurd, even if one does not accept his conclusions. What mangled definition of "judicial activism" are you using in order to reach this handy, if empty, rhetorical flourish?
In my view, Kelo was wrongly decided, and I hope that Justice Stevens will be replaced with Justice Young, of Michigan, whose nomination would be a clear rejection of Kelo and its author.
- Too Many Jims said...
I wouldn't be surprised if what these people plan to do is "legal" (I also wouldn't be surprised if it was "illegal" under either Kelo or state law). That said, assuming it is legal, what they are doing is not consistent if they believe that landowners have inherent rights to keep their property.
- SarahWeddington said...
When one Justice in a solo opinion takes it upon himself to call for the overruling of 100+ yrs worth of opinions that commanded unanimity of at least 3 Courts with 27 different Justices of every conceivable philosophical background, on the mere pretext that in his view the "original understanding" of the takings clause dictates the outcome, that's activism in my book.
Especially when the law office history he spouts is rather thin.
But for 1 Justice to say he knows better than 32 other Justices that have sat on the Court, that's activist. O'Connor's dissent, while wrong in my view wasn't activist. She didn't take it upon herself to rewrite 100+ yrs of precedent and claim that 32 other Justices of every imaginable background had no clue when it came to the Constitution.
James Madison spoke of the importance of not letting one's solitary opinions lead one to go against established constructions. Thomas obviously listens to the framers when we wants to and ignores them when he wants to. Even Scalia has at least some respect for Stare Decisis-as does Thomas in certain cases he's evinced displeasure at, which made his Kelo opinion all the more activist(an opinion that I feel confident in saying no other Justice of the past 100 yrs would have joined).
- Cousin Don said...
Wouldn't it be ironic if the townsfolk of Weare, NH vote for this, and Souter fights it to the US Supreme Court.
A case he'd have to recuse himself from resulting in a 5-3 overturning of Kelo thanks to Alito replacing O'Connor.
Now that would be divine justice, IMHO.
- Simon said...
When Madison spoke, I doubt he had in mind constructions which essentially abrogate the amendment process that Madison himself put in the Constitution. It will come as no surprise that I don't agree with your reading of the relevant caselaw, nor your definition of judicial activism, the latter a foriori since it effectively declares war on the oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. But then, I wouldn't expect someone who posts the name of the attorney in the case which best exemplifies actual judicial activism (outright usurpation, in fact - Nixon was run out of office for a less imminently treasonous act) to understand this, let alone the attendant irony of a supporter of Roe having the sheer nerve to preach judicial restraint to Justice Thomas.


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