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Sunday, October 31, 2010
Much more to come on Monday. I'm just too drained, bummed, frustrated, INSERT SOMETHING ELSE HERE to think coherently right now.
30 comments:
- Mike said...
I am going to leave that decision to Dave Brandon and others who know more about running a Division I program than I do. Not excited that Michigan has become Notre Dame though: constant failure and talks of who the next coach will be that will save our program.
- October 31, 2010 3:59 AM
- surrounded in columbus said...
we're a long way from changing coaches at this point.
first, there are 4 games left. if they pull out 2 more wins, it's very unlikely that they'll fire a 7-5 coach.
i really wonder if they'll fire a 6-6 coach, either.
there's also an issue of money- dumping this guy will cost a small fortune at a time that money is not easy.
finally, we have a long history of being patient- look at the basketball program.
a little stoicism is in order- another movie quote- "part of the problem w/ being a patrician, is that there are times you are expected to act like one".
let's try to act like "Michigan" fans- a showing of our famed arrogance in the face of adversity; a little calm in the midst of disaster? let's not run around screaming & panicking.
let's stand on the deck in a dignified fashion; women & children first
- October 31, 2010 8:03 AM
- phil said...
I was a "give RR four years" to bring back the Michigan dynasty, but I want this to be the last year. To lose is one thing but to see the lack of football fundamentals at this historic program is an indication that the coaching is severely flawed. I haven't and will never blame the players. The product that is out on that field is entirely on the coach. 4 – 16 in the Big 10 REALLY? The simple laws of probability should have us up by at least 3 more games. Whatever magic RR had at WV didn't make the trip with him. I don't think one more year is going to suddenly make the difference. I know recruiting is important but don't give me that "we don't have enough 5 star players" excuse. There are plenty of teams that have 5 star players that aren't making the grade too. You start with fundamentals and motivation and you build your own 5 star player. The Titanic has sunk, let's get another ship builder and try again.
- October 31, 2010 8:05 AM
- phil said...
SIC - I love your comments and I think you are very wise but your comment on "being patient - look at the basketball program" is supposed to sell me?
- October 31, 2010 8:07 AM
- justthinking said...
"Whatever magic RR had at WV didn't make the trip with him."
Namely, Jeff Casteel.
We need a Defense that can keep teams at 15 points per game average, to contend for Big Ten and National Championships. That's what I posted on Spawn before the season based upon 40 years of Michigan D's - and I've compiled numbers for the other National Champiopnship teams as well. All under 15ppg.
RR has created a great offense, capable of running an 80 yard drive on anyone in under 2 minutes -- with a raw quarterback.
Defense is running 5-7 true freshman. Kids just out of high school, who may have been studs on their high school team, but that doesn't translate to D1 stud a year later.
Get in a bowl game. Get the extra days of practice. Recruit kids who like to hit and get back at it this spring.
RR is hopefully staying to keep the O running at full speed, and to keep the O commits coming. Gerg will hopefully be looking for new digs, and our new D Coordinator may be the highest paid DC in the nation come January.
Question is, who do they find at any cost that can do the job with what we have, and who we have coming?
- October 31, 2010 9:30 AM
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- October 31, 2010 9:35 AM
- BARman said...
Doesn't it seem like watching the team, an overall reaction is "no discipline" (meaning basic football skills type thing)? If true, that rests squarely on RichRod. As the head coach, you set the stage regarding that whole atmosphere. I wonder if RR is one who would rather be liked by his players than feared? Ironic, as the right kind of "fear" always leads to respect and admiration anyway...
- October 31, 2010 9:37 AM
- Tom C said...
When you're in a hole it's best to quit digging.
- October 31, 2010 9:41 AM
- Phillip said...
Would Harbaugh even come at this point?
We know he loves the program... but what he's got going at Stanford isn't exactly a bad thing.
If Brandon is going to pull the trigger on RR, it can't be like the last coaching search. He'd better have somebody sewn up or we'll end up looking like absolute fools as an institution.
- October 31, 2010 9:49 AM
- Mikoyan said...
Well here's my thoughts on the situation. If they fire Gerg and hire a new defensive coordinator, that would be stupid in my opinion because that will make 2 coordinators in 3 years. And given the product that he has on the field, I'm not so sure it's him because every so often I see the Michigan defense have fits of brilliance (a few 3 and outs here and there, stopping on first down for a loss, etc). I'm not going to blame the players for it. I think it falls squarely on the head coach.
The thing that bothers me is that the offense is looking pretty good (taking away the State game). So the part that people wanted Lloyd Carr to leave over is doing well. I would hate to see that go away. But then again, the team is stocked enough that a good coach can probably do something with it and it wont be quite like the transition from Lloyd ball to Rich Ball.
If they are looking to pull trigger, I seriously hope they get someone lined up before they do it. But it's kind of difficult with the game schedules and what not because I don't think they should be calling during the season. As for my list:
1. Possibly Harbaugh
2. Paul Johnson (former Navy guy who is now in Georgia)
3. His replacement at Navy (even though they lost to Duke yesterday...blah)
4. the Bo cloning project...:)
- October 31, 2010 11:19 AM
- Andrew said...
numbing....just numbing
- October 31, 2010 11:21 AM
- Andy said...
I don't think Brandon will only cast his eyes towards Harbaugh. While I am sure Jim would love a chance at this job, he does have a pretty sweet gig right now. Leaving Stanford is not an easy decision, just ask Tyrone Willingham.
I don't think Paul Johnson (Ga Tech) or Ken Niumatalolo (Navy) would be good choices -- their system is too one dimensional to work in the B10.
If was Dave Brandon.... I would look to Chris Peterson (Boise), Gary Paterson (TCU), Kyle Whittingham (Utah), Pat Fitzgerald (Nortwestern), or gulp, Darrell Hazell (Ohio State assistant head coach).
- October 31, 2010 11:42 AM
- bigGexpress said...
There are only two choices in my opinion. Both named Jim.
1) Jim Harbaugh
2) Jim Tressel ;)
You know Andy, I never thought of Pat Fitzgerald. That wouldn't be terrible. I think he's less likely to leave Northwestern than Harbaugh Stanford.
- October 31, 2010 12:18 PM
- Mikoyan said...
The other part of me wants them to look at an obscure coach at some Division 1AA or II school that wants a shot at the big time. Or perhaps one of the lower tier Division IA schools (eastern but not Ron English)
- October 31, 2010 12:31 PM
- BaggyPantsDevil said...
It's time, homey.
I've had serious concerns that Michigan is headed in the wrong direction for a few weeks now but as bad as I thought it was I still thought Michigan could beat Penn State. I guess it's worse than even I thought.
My worst case scenario had been wins against Penn State and Purdue, a toss up against Illinois, a beat down against Wisconsin, and then the annual--for what now seems like 100 straight years--punch in the face from Ohio State.
Now, Purdue's a toss up with the rest of the games being bare-assed spankings of Michigan.
I can't even credit Rich Rodriguez with a great offense. Team with great offenses are Penn State (when they play Michigan), Iowa (when they play Michigan), Michigan State (when they play Michigan). Even UMAss looking pretty damn good on offense, when they played Michigan.
Correction, Rich Rodriguez does make great offenses, for opponents.
- October 31, 2010 12:33 PM
- Tom C said...
Umm.... I don't think our offense is anything to brag about. No Denard = no production. Tate makes it work with smoke and mirrors. Denard doesn't have the touch on the deep ball, and Tate doesn't see coverages. Our running Backs havn't done much. We can't grind it out and keep our Defense off the field, or theirs on it.
- October 31, 2010 12:47 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
It wasn't a sales pitch. It was a warning. Don't be surprised if Brandon is more patient than we might like.
My sales pitch was for people to try to maintain a lil' composure (something the net doesn't really foster). I live amongst a million tosu fans. You know the only thing they enjoy more than watching us lose?
Watching us go to pieces over it.
- October 31, 2010 2:50 PM
- Yost said...
I hear you, but there's no improvement, SiC. That's what's most galling. They're not getting better.
We played against a team that was basically a mirror of our '08 team and we made some 3rd string walk-on QB look like Cam Newton. And a running back who was averaging 64 yards a game coming into last night gained 150. And an offense that hadn't scored over 28 points vs. a D-1 school gashed us. And on and on.
At some point, patience wears thin. RR didn't take over at Temple. He took over a team that hadn't had a losing season since '67 and in "building a program" is fielding something that is getting smoked by any team with pulse.
- October 31, 2010 2:57 PM
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- October 31, 2010 4:34 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
just to be clear, IF this were an NFL team, and I was its owner, i'd have fired R2 last night before he left the locker room. i might have made him fly home commercial (though i'd have probably paid for his ticket, because i'd run a "class" organization, right?).
but it's not my team. and that's not the way Michigan does things. if one thing is clear after the last decade, it's that this administration makes its own decisions in its own time.
we aren't like other schools- influential boosters, rich alums, bloggers, MSM, and fans don't push decisions at michigan. Mary Sue & Brandon are going to address this w/ very little regard to "popular" opinion, just like they have everything else. And whether we like it isn't going to matter.
and that's a good thing. we aren't tosu or some SEC school where donors feel they can call the AD or President on the carpet over football games. the tail doesn't wag the dog here, and it's something to be proud of.
what i'm saying is, we can all blog & rant all we want, draft lists of potential coaches, and talk about what should happen all we like. but what's going to happen is that they are going to wait until the end of the season, wait until the NCAA issues its decision, and then make the call based on a lotta factors- our concerns over the W-L record being only one of them.
that said, no one should be surprised, in fact, everyone should be prepared, if this team finishes 7-5/6-6, and the NCAA decision is what we seem to expect it to be, that they bring R2 back for a 4th season.
changing coaches is both expensive and time consuming (ask ND). firing a coach w/ a team going to a bowl game is a very questionable call (even if it's the Pizza Bowl). and giving him another season amortizes the potential buyout by another year.
i'd have changeed coaches last night. but unless we lose out, i don't think we're going to do so for another year (or two).
- October 31, 2010 4:36 PM
- Andy said...
OK SiC. I hear you and somewhat agree.
What happens when we land at 5-7 and no bowl game AGAIN?
The most damaging thing about the last two years hasn't been missing a crappy bowl game and getting spanked by a mediocre SEC team - it is the fact these young players have lost out on 2+ months of additional practices. That time is invaluable to rebuilding a down program.
Not making a bowl for three years at Michigan should be enough to get anyone fired. Add in the NCAA drama, the complete failure to win conference or rivalry games.
He is done. Done. Done.
- October 31, 2010 6:53 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
5-7 is easy. He's done.
7-5 is probably easy. He's staying.
6-6 is the tough one.
And they may still beat Purdue.
- October 31, 2010 7:18 PM
- Bigasshammm said...
If we go 6-6 do we really want to go to a middling bowl game and probably get pantsed by a middling team from some "lesser" conference? Even 7-5 without a win over either OSU or Wisconsin and I'm saying skip the bowl game. Being .500 and going to a bowl game is embarrassing as hell. They shouldn't even allow .500 teams to bowl games and that's part of what's flawed with college football.
I'm done with it. Last night I was outside sitting at my firepit with the wife while they blew it in the second half. I couldn't watch anymore and frankly don't want to watch anymore. This has never happened until RR got there so in that the blame lies with him.
The offense is terrible. It's a one man show. I would hate to be recruited by Michigan right now if I played offense because I'd never make a name for myself. Denard is NOT a QB because he is not a leader on the field. Denard is a round peg in a round hole and aside from that when he comes upon a square hole he gets confused. True QBs need to know how to adapt and lead the team on the field and on the sidelines. I've seen that from Tate because he's been raised as a true QB. Maybe his skills aren't as good as Denard's but there's no reasoning that Denard at TB/Slot with Tate at Qb wouldn't be just as if not more explosive of an offense.
The defense
Fire him.
We're going to get obliterated in Dallas' billion dollar stadium.
- October 31, 2010 7:20 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
We're not gonna fire a 7-5 coach.
This isn't tosu & Earl Bruce.
- October 31, 2010 7:55 PM
- srudoff said...
what about a 22-13 coach?
- October 31, 2010 9:09 PM
- Andy said...
Right now, 22-13 sounds pretty good
- October 31, 2010 10:12 PM
- Mikoyan said...
Before I responded again, I wanted to take a few deep breathes so that I could collect my thoughts and what not.
1. I do not think a quarterback that puts up 190 yards passing can be called a one man show since he has to have another person to pass to. Although the 190 some yards on rushing could do that. I'm not a big fan of a quarterback putting up those kind of rushing numbers because it seems like he goes out every game. That doesn't bode well for the rhythym of the offense.
2. I'm still on the fence about firing Rich Rod. I'm not sure if he is the right man for the program in the long term but then again, I don't think a coaching carousel is right from the program either. If Brandon is going to fire him, I hope he asks the question if he still feels that Rich Rod is the right man for the program long term. If the answer to that is no then he should get rid of the man and start new.
3. If we do start with a new coach next season, I don't think its going to be all gloom and doom. He will have two pretty decent quarterbacks in Tate and Denard. He will also have a pretty seasoned offense. As maligned as the defense is, they will be sophomores and juniors instead of freshmen and sophomores and that will make alot of difference.
3. If they do end up firing coaches (Gerg for instance), I hope they don't take half measures and just start cleaning house.
- November 01, 2010 9:28 AM
- Bigasshammm said...
Why keep a 7-5 coach around another season? After 3 years you're saying it's ok to keep him because he showed improvement in 2 wins a season but again would only be 5-18 or so in the Big Ten in 3 years. Do you really think that 7-5 would stop the fire train next season? Why keep prolonging the misery when instead you can cut losses and try to right the ship?
You're not firing him over the overall record you're firing him for 5-18 in the BT. That's pathetic and Michigan has become the pathetic BT team under his coaching. He couldn't win a meaningful game at WVU and he can't win here. He's a good OC, a terrible head coach.
But I also agree that he shouldn't be fired unless someone is already ready to step in and take his place. So if Brandon contacts Harbaugh or someone else and they say yeah the job is mine then he's gone. If they can't find someone then you have to stick with him.
- November 01, 2010 9:48 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
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- November 02, 2010 10:28 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Fuck no. After the 2007 OSU game, it had become apparent that Michigan was not going to reach the upper echelons of CFB again under Lloyd Carr. Lloyd himself would be the first to admit that he just didn't have the fire to keep coaching. Under Rich Rodriguez, I know this sounds ridiculous to a bunch of you, but there is still hope. The guy is an amazing offensive coach, the players seem to really like him and are extremely well-behaved off the field, and he respects Michigan tradition.
RR's problems come down to his managerial style. He has mismanaged the defense from day one. He should have never fired Vance Bedford or Steve Szabo, and he should have given Scott Shafer a chance to do his thing as DC. The defense is possibly going nowhere under Greg Robinson and the secondary has done shit under Tony Gibson, but 1) the secondary is all freshmen and 2) if RR just makes some staff changes and stops being so stubborn about defense, then is it that hard to imagine him winning?
Firing should be a last resort. If you view it as the solution when there is no hope, then fine, but I say that there is still hope. Just stop seeing termination as some proper punitive measure for embarrassing Michigan football. And please tell me that you people haven't forgotten how Jim Harbaugh threw UM under the bus a few years ago and has a DUI to his name.
- November 02, 2010 10:30 AM


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Monday, December 04, 2006
Coaches' Poll Out, Michigan #3
NOTE: The number of voters totals only 62 this week. Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel asked to abstain.
90 comments:
- Aram said...
I thought the coaches released their polls for this one.
- December 03, 2006 2:01 PM
Condolences. It looks like the fix was in lastnight with those assholes on CBS stumping for UF. As for Tressel:
"NOTE: The number of voters totals only 62 this week. Ohio State head coach Jim Tressel asked to abstain."
Look at the bright side. Between OSU and UM the Big Ten should finish #1 and #2. With any luck Wiscy will win too.
- December 03, 2006 2:05 PM
- alandeis1985 said...
i believe that the coaches have to release their ballot for this ballot
- December 03, 2006 2:15 PM
- sonny said...
Yost- I am intersted to hear your thoughts regarding Tressel's abstention from the poll. The MZone stated that OSU should not have a say as to which team they should play. Do you agree with this move?
- December 03, 2006 2:18 PM
I believe the BCS formula doesn't use the integer rank, but instead weights the number of points a team recieved. If this is the case, then Florida and Michigan are nearly a tie as far as the polls go; the computers will decide the outcome.
- December 03, 2006 2:29 PM
- Howard21 said...
I think it is a classy move and a smart move by Tressel. He's going to be criticized any way he voted and by not voting it left the media with one less thing to waste time with until the game.
- December 03, 2006 2:30 PM
- crock said...
well, I just reread all the "bcs explanation" and how it all works.
now, I'm more confused than ever and need a drink.
I did see that Tressel abstained from voting - haven't figured out if I admire that yet, or if he took the easy way out when he had a chance to really screw us.
Oy! what a day.
is it 8:00 yet?
- December 03, 2006 2:32 PM
Actually that would be commendable on Tressel's part if he did abstain. Both he and Carr act like gentlemen, whereas Urban Meyer, the BCS head and the UF President have all been whining about the possibility of Michigan going to the title game for weeks. They actually should be reprimanded for that.
The only way to prove these SEC crybabies wrong is to see them get slaughtered by Ohio State....which they will with their sloppy play and arrogant attitude.
- December 03, 2006 2:32 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
well, i'm not pissed FLA is going to get the shot. we had ours. they're a good team, and arguably, as good as michigan. that's not my bitch.
what i am pissed about is that this vote is being jobbed to set up the game "america wants to see", and not select "#1 vs #2".
to the point- anon 11:32- you're just wrong in your analysis. not because it isn't correct, but because that is NOT the reason the polls our being shifted so sharply.
if anyone voting had thought that data was relevant, why did FLA stay behind us the last 3 weeks? if SC had won, do you really think FLA would have moved from #4 to #3 based on that performance last night? have you heard anyone even suggest that FLA would beat Michigan if they played head to head?
no. this isn't about which team is better- and my apologies to FLA fans who naturally think they are- but the poll didn't shift overnight because the rest of the world woke up this a.m. and suddenly decided you were better than michigan.
this is ALL contrived to keep the big ten from locking up the mnc before the game.
- December 03, 2006 3:05 PM
I thought this quote from Carr earlier this week pretty much says it all when it comes to the class shown by Urban Meyer and everyone aboard the Florida campaign team:
"I think it's going to be a great controversy, I don't care who gets selected," Carr said, "because I just think that based on some of the comments the Florida coach has made in the last two weeks -- campaigning strenuously for a berth in the championship game -- and making some statements about Michigan that I think were inappropriate.
"That certainly is going to stir a controversy and who knows what that's going to lead to."
Carr has passed on a chance to lobby for his team, which lost to Ohio State during the regular season. The picks were to be announced Sunday night.
Michigan coach Carr expects controversy after BCS picks
- December 03, 2006 3:32 PM
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First let me say I'm not a big fan of either OSU, UM, or UF. I like Notre Dame, and yes, we're overrated. But I do like Tressel, and think he did the "honorable" thing by not voting.
The whole BCS system is flawed, but read my opinion statement for the whole thing.
The SEC is over-rated, and I hope the Gators do go play the Buckeyes and get their ASS kicked. Maybe then all of the SEC fans will shut up about how great their conference is, how much better it is than the Big 10, Pac 10, Big 12, etc. And the media is just as bad... Vern Lundquist last night was probably jacking off while talking about the SEC.
For you Michigan fans, that was one of the BEST games at the Horseshoe. It coulda gone either way. I just don't think Lloyd Carr can win the big game... or beat Jim Tressel.
- December 03, 2006 3:39 PM
basically michigan fans it comes down to this....If you wanted to go to Arizona so bad you should have beat Ohio State. Don't give me no home field horseshit.
You had your chance to knock off #1 and you didn't. You got beat soundly. YOU GOT BEAT. Your #2 in your conference. Quit bitching.
- December 03, 2006 3:45 PM
- TitleIX said...
USA Today Coaches Poll:
1. Ohio State (62*) 12-0
2. Florida 12-1
3. Michigan 11-1
5. Wisconsin 11-1
6. Louisville 11-1
7. Southern California 10-2
8. Oklahoma 11-2
9. Boise State
10. Auburn 10-2
A) Kudos to Tressel for acting in a classy way on this one
B) This whole thing was jobbed--do you think any other conference wants the Big 1(11)0 to get ALL the BCS Championship $$$$????
It's all about the cash.
I'm betting that we are in the Orange Bowl....
You think that the Rose wants to give back all that potential money from LSU fans????
- December 03, 2006 3:50 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
yeah but could they really lay off a usc-michigan rose bowl? hell really will have frozen over if the rose passes on that match up.
- December 03, 2006 3:52 PM
I think it is a classy move and a smart move by Tressel. He's going to be criticized any way he voted and by not voting it left the media with one less thing to waste time with until the game.
Howard21, I agree. This is the first time I have ever agreed with something Tressel has done. He would have gotten blasted either way he went, so from a PR standpoint he did the right thing. With that said, I would like to know who he thought was #2 though. Does anyone know how he voted after "the game?"
Look at the bright side. Between OSU and UM the Big Ten should finish #1 and #2. With any luck Wiscy will win too.
Illibuck, I'm hoping for that. What can the SEC blowhards say (and I live with them) if OSU wins, UM wins, and Wisc wins? Assuming LSU plays ND and wins, the final poll could easily have three Big 10 teams in the top five, something like: 1. OSU, 2. UM, 3. LSU, 4. Wisc, 5. Louisville if they beat Wake. Or maybe you could interchange Wisc and Louisville. Or even better, interchange LSU and Wisc, but I think I'm asking too much there. :)
Eh, too early to think about that now. The bowl games gotta be played.
- December 03, 2006 3:53 PM
- TitleIX said...
Florida #2 in the AP Poll as well.
I've got one thing to say---
Go Buckeyes
CRUSH the Gators
- December 03, 2006 3:54 PM
This is utter bullshit. As I said before, UF would still be #4 had USC won against UCLA.
And I give Kirk Herbstreit props for saying this: one should vote for UF or UM as #2 only if he truly believes that that team is #2 in the country, and not based on whom he believes deserves a shot at OSU. Vote about who you truly believe is #2, and ignore whether or not you believe that UM deserves a rematch.
I have a real axe to grind with Urban Creyer. That fucking asshole has probably been lobbying for people to vote in UF like the classless POS that he is. If UF unfairly goes, then please OSU, shut that crybaby up.
We should be burning effigies of that asshole Meyer here in Ann Arbor.
- December 03, 2006 3:55 PM
- Yost said...
We didn't whine, that's one of the reasons why we're not going to the BCS title game. Unlike a certain coach in Florida...
- December 03, 2006 3:56 PM
No matter what the uninformed voters and the BCS decide, Urban Cryer will have to sleep with the fact he cried his way to the his bowl game. His work on the field wasn't enough.
May Carr coach Michigan as long as possible.
Integrity...Bo would be proud.
Let's beat the s**t out of USC.
- December 03, 2006 3:56 PM
SIC, look at the plus side. We'd crush Wake. Although I see both sides-don't give up all that LSU cold hard cash, but traditional Big 10-Pac 10 matchup.
- December 03, 2006 3:57 PM
I'm ashamed of my English:
"Vote about who you truly believe is #2, and ignore whether or not you believe that UM deserves a rematch"
Vote for who you truly believe is #2 in the country, and forget about how you feel about a rematch between OSU and UM. And the most disgusting thing about this? That UF had a rematch against FSU in 1996. Utter bullshit.
- December 03, 2006 3:58 PM
You are correct, we lost to #1 Ohio State, At Ohio State, by 3 points.
Flordia Lost to #11 Aubrun at Auburn by 10 pts.
So you could say, if Florida wanted a shot to play in the BCS NC Bowl then they should have A) Lost to a "higher ranked" team by less or B) not lost.
So, to say Michigan had their shot is also saying so did Flordia and they also lost.
As big of a U of M fan as I am, I rather almost see U of M get into the Rose Bowl and smack USC in the mouth and see Florida get their ASS handed to them by OSU. Becuase lets face it, unlike Arkansas, OSU isnt going to hand them 14 points.
- December 03, 2006 4:00 PM
Go Gators!
- December 03, 2006 4:04 PM
AP poll is out now, Florida #2, Michigan #3. Y'all are getting fucked.
- December 03, 2006 4:07 PM
You are all talking about the "SEC loosing all bowl games" or "UF will get their a.. kicked by OSU"...but what if that wont happen?
Either you all can see into the future or you just happen to have so much understanding of college football to foresee this...but asking me,UF will have a 50% of winning against OSU as well as UM would have had.
- December 03, 2006 4:14 PM
Florida's number 2 in the BCS!
- December 03, 2006 4:15 PM
From the LA Times:
By Chris Dufresne, Times Staff Writer
12:54 PM PST, December 3, 2006
There isn't going to be a rematch.
No. 1 Ohio State will play No. 2 Florida, not Michigan, for the Bowl Championship Series national title on Jan. 8 in Glendale, Ariz.
According to a BCS source, Florida moved from fourth to second today ahead of No. 3 Michigan in the final BCS standings.
An official announcement will come this evening in a televised unveiling on Fox.

The news means that USC will play Michigan, not Louisiana State, in the Rose Bowl on Jan. 1.
LSU had pre-sold more than 42,000 tickets in advance of making its first-ever Rose Bowl appearance, but UCLA's upset win over previously No. 2 USC on Saturday, coupled with Florida's win over Arkansas in the Southeastern Conference championship game, changed the final pairings.
The BCS bowl lineup is now expected to be:
Rose: USC vs. Michigan.
Sugar: Notre Dame vs. LSU.
Orange: Louisville vs. Wake Forest.
Fiesta: Oklahoma vs. Boise State.
Florida's jump over No. 3 Michigan, which was idle Saturday and has not played since a three-point loss to No. 1 Ohio State on Nov. 18, likely will cause more uproar in BCS circles.
This will mark the fifth time in the nine-year history of the BCS that there has been controversy involving the title-game participants.
In the end, enough voters in the Harris Interactive and USA Today coaches' polls moved Florida to No. 2, ahead of Michigan, on their final ballots.
Ohio State Coach Jim Tressel released a statement today saying he did not vote in the final coaches' poll to avoid the perception of a conflict of interest.
"After consultation with my director of athletics, Gene Smith, and based on our unique position in the BCS standings, I believe it is only fair that we not participate (in) the final poll," Tressel said in a statement.
Michigan and Florida each finished the regular season with one loss, on the road. Michigan was 11-1 with its defeat at Ohio State, while 12-1 Florida lost at Auburn.
Florida picked up 66 points on Michigan in the coaches' poll and finished with a 26-point advantage.
- December 03, 2006 4:17 PM
I pray to god that is a flase report.
- December 03, 2006 4:23 PM
B) This whole thing was jobbed--do you think any other conference wants the Big 1(11)0 to get ALL the BCS Championship $$$$????
Michigan gets the same BCS payout whether they are in the title game or Rose. First conference team into the BCS gets 14-17 million, second conference team in gets around 5. Doesn't really matter what BCS bowl it is.
- December 03, 2006 4:24 PM
I know you guys are pissed, and may be correct in believing Michigan should have the shot, but here's the reality of the human based system we live in:
Voters believed the champ of a tough conference like the SEC couldn't be kept out versus the second place team of the Big 10.
Its that simple.
I thought OSU got robbed in the first year of the BCS, as voters elected to send Bobby Bowden's zero offense Seminoles against Nebraska, and Nebraska later killed them in the championship bowl. But, OSU lost to MSU and left it in the hands of humans: always a bad move.
I will be cheering to see Michigan slaughter Petey's band of Hollywood pretty boys.
- December 03, 2006 4:26 PM
Maybe it's the BCS correcting itself for screwing Auburn and the SEC a couple of years ago.
The USC-Michigan game should be good.
- December 03, 2006 4:29 PM
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- December 03, 2006 4:44 PM
Try not to forget that before The Game Tressel stated publicly that he did not want a rematch regardless of who won and Carr expressed the same sentiment. A big deal was made about that in an article on ESPN.com. So if you don't see Carr actively campaigning don't crap on him if you think he should or pat him on the back if you think he shouldn't. He already rolled the dice on an NC and he's living with the result. We all should do the same.
- December 03, 2006 4:47 PM
You all can't be serious with the being mad at Urban Meyer for lobbying.
Please, the man is a head coach of the team thats his job to stand up for his team and say why he thinks their the best. Is it his fault Lloyd Carr has no backbone to buck up and say what he thinks instead of looking like a dumbass on ESPN. Please.
Your "We were speechless and classy and did not cry" case is dumb. Urban Meyer did what he had to, to get his team where he seemed fit. Survival of the fittest.
Please get off the 3 point loss bandwagon, Michigan got beat they didn't barley lose. They got beat.
- December 03, 2006 4:54 PM
Also Auburn beat Florida by 3, for those who watched that game knows that Auburn scored on the last play of the game when Florida was trying a "Music City Miricale" "Cal vs. Stanford" type play and fumbled it and Auburn ran it back.
- December 03, 2006 4:57 PM
UM got beat in the Shoe and Fl got smacked at Auburn...
I really care less at this point on who goes. If FL goes, they lose, just shows that Big 10 is a better conf this year.
- December 03, 2006 4:58 PM
- Ungar Kelt said...
I just looked at the Sagarin ratings on the USA Today:
1 Tosu
2 Michigan
3 Florida
Colley comp for last week was :
Therefore, Florida has that one
Anderson, Billingsley, Wolfe, Massey, Anderson aren't out.
Harris isn't out yet.
- December 03, 2006 4:58 PM
Anon 1:54
And Florida will get beat come Jan. 8 and Urban Meyer will have that same bewildered look Pete did last night, only around the second quarter instead of the last minute of the game.
- December 03, 2006 4:59 PM
- Jerry Palm said...
YOU did whine. Michigan fans DID whine. Lloyd Carr was the only one classy enough to not whine. Don't try to take the high road because your coach did. UM fans are whining all over every Wolverine message board. The Anon that you were replying to didn't say anything about Carr or Michigan not whinig. He called Um fans out. You guys are no better than Urban Meyer - he just has a bigger audience
- December 03, 2006 5:05 PM
although i can understand tressel's motivation for not voting, i personally feel it's a chickenshit excuse and not very admirable at all. what coach doesn't have a "conflict of interest"? not only this poll, but all of them? if they're afraid to live with the consequences of voting for who they feel are the best teams then they probably shouldn't be doing any voting at all.
and didn't something similar like this happen at the end of the 1997 season when the coaches poll supposedly leapfrogged nebraska over michigan in order to give tom osborne a "sympathy" national championship in his last year?
i don't mind polls provided there is some transparency & accountability involved.
- December 03, 2006 5:06 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Has there ever been a time where a team that didn't lose got bumped in the polls two weekends in a row???
Florida fans... you haven't seen anything yet. Georgia and Alabama aren't any better than Wisconsin. And Ole Miss, Kentucky, Miss State, and Vandy aren't any better than half the teams in the Big 10.
If Urban Meyer brings that sad excuse for an offense to Glendale, you're going to get shut out and Laurinaitis is going to make Chris Leak his bitch. If you thought the defensive scores against in the LSU game were bad... just wait.
Just wait until Ted Ginn, Troy Smith, and company wild all over that pathetic secondary.
Talk is cheap Gator Nation. Be careful what you wish for because you just got it!!!
- December 03, 2006 5:12 PM
I know. That is one thing that the Gators don't see. Sure they get to go to the NC Bowl...yay...but wouldn't you rather WIN a rose bowl or a sugar bowl...than have your coach take you into a game you know you have no chance in hell of winning? Michigan has a chance...OSU won the first half of their game...but u of m handed their asses back to them in the second half...The Gators will get worked from the first second ticking off the clock. I can see a Oklahoma / USC game. Hand it to the undeserving and watch them get hammered by three touchdowns or more.
Do Gator fans THINK in all honesty they have a chance to win? With the closness of the UM/OSU game...I know UM has a 50% chance...i dont see gators having more than a 5% chance.
- December 03, 2006 5:18 PM
How the fuck did UF get more coaches' votes than UM, which has 1 vote less than it had last week. Obviously the voters were not thinking about which team is better. We didn't almost lose to a shitty S Carolina team at home or to an even shittier FSU team.
And to Anon 1:54, lobbying in college football is ok in politics, not in college football. It would be fine if Urban Meyer had left it at "My team is a great one that definitely deserves a shot at the national title," but he didn't. He had to go on TV and trash Michigan's team while that weasel of a president at UF cockily said last night that the team should already have its bags packed, and that if UF didn't go, then the system should be overhauled. We at UM don't stoop to that level.
Face it, UM is way above any team in the Shit-Eating Conference. We don't start fights, we don't plant our flag in the opposing team's field, we don't run up scores against shitty opponents (save for last year's game against EMU, but we were pissed after Notre Dame), and we sure as hell do not bitch and moan in public or lobby for support in popularity contests.
Urban Creyer should have a good time in hell with Tom Osbourne.
- December 03, 2006 5:19 PM
So Ohio State's gonna take eh bout 51 days off and you all expect them to come out and whip the hell out of Florida????
Seriously, take your Blue and Maize goggles off. And dude is right, you all want to talk about bitching Urban, you guys are just as bad.
I think most of you Michigan cats need to chill for about 4 days then come back and start talking.
- December 03, 2006 5:19 PM
To Jerry Palm:
Please get some perspective.
Last time I checked coaches are official representatives of their teams and the university. Their public comments about the BCS and football are not just casual personal remarks. Urban Meyer has been out-of-line for weeks.
Fans complaining on the Internet is just that fans complaining on the Internet. My status as a Michigan alum doesn't quite compare with Coach Carr's. He is Michigan football; we're just its supporters (it's a symbiotic relationship but still).
- December 03, 2006 5:20 PM
- Jerry Palm said...
Michigan heading to the Sugar Bowl against Notre Dame
You heard it hear first
- December 03, 2006 5:21 PM
As much as I hate OSU (yes, even here in the Pacific Northwest we hate OSU), Michigan had it's shot and lost.
Also, as much as I hate the BCS system, it would be another fumble if a team that didn't even win it's own conference was able to play in the Championship game.
Bottom line is Michigan had it's shot and they are also a 3nd place team.
- December 03, 2006 5:23 PM
- Jerry Palm said...
anon 2:20
I appreciate your comments however I was responding specifically to Yost. An anon poster said that Michigan fans were whining. Yost retorted that "we" aren't whining, but Urban Meyer sure it. Yost was a representative of Michigan's fans just like Carr is of Michigan's team. As such, Yost and UM fans ARE whining like crazy. Check out STadium and Main or any other UM site.
I give Carr major props for taking the high road (even though several Michigan posters are in effect blaming him for not lobbying).
- December 03, 2006 5:26 PM
* Correction from above , I meant 2nd place team.
- December 03, 2006 5:27 PM
Uhh..I don't think Michigan would have had any trouble with Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama or Arkansas. Gimme a break, will you? Those hoosiers that make up the SEC should be reminded of one very important fact: You couldn't beat a great northern team from 1861-1865 (still hurts, doesn't it?) and you will get your sorry, toothless asses handed to you in Arizona. Go Bucks!
- December 03, 2006 5:38 PM
1861-1865? Damn that is just beyond lame.
Don't get mad at Meyers because he was able to sell the benefits of his team than Carr was able to.
It's gonna be funny to come back here after the game...after Florida beats OSU and see you all still whinning about the SEC.
- December 03, 2006 5:50 PM
Anon 2:38:
You think that Michigan wouldn't have had "any trouble" with Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama or Arkansas? You're out of your mind, those are some very strong teams.
Sorry, but the Big 10 is not a stronger conference than the SEC. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone outside of the Big 10 conference who would disagree.
Between your comments about the strength of the conference, your comment about the "hoosiers" in the SEC (HUH????), and your idiot reference to the Civil War, you're letting that OSU education show.
- December 03, 2006 5:51 PM
The Rose Bowl match-up will be great; two programs who really need the win. Michigan needs the win because it has not won a bowl game in four years. USC needs to get off their Pasadena schneid.
The pollsters may be fickle, but that's the system Michigan agreed to. Besides, these teams are so close by any objective metric that it cannot be a tragedy to pick one over the other.
Lloyd Carr handled himself admirably by not campaigning. Urban Meyer sounded like some sleazebag on WWF "Smackdown," saying he would not honor a Michigan title. It is not a 'coach's job' to trash-talk other programs, as one Anon suggested. It's just plain trashy.
The silver lining is that this could be the death knell for the BCS. I think the voting in the AP and Coaches' poll was reactive to the concern for preserving a flawed system more than anything else (i.e., there would be more fall-out if Michigan, who did not win its conference, went to the title game).
- December 03, 2006 6:07 PM
Anon 2:50 P.M.: outcome of the BCS title game notwithstanding, it is funny now to laugh at the ramblings of a mind apparently unspoiled by formal education ("Meyers," "whinning," "he was able to sell the benefits of his team than Carr was able to"). Are you really unaware of the Florida coach's last name, or are you just being sloppy? Assuming you are a Florida fan, you are not exactly dispelling any stereotypes about people from the South.
- December 03, 2006 6:20 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
So Ohio State's gonna take eh bout 51 days off and you all expect them to come out and whip the hell out of Florida????
Sam Snead 2:19
Duh... yes! You mean to tell me that UF is gonna whip the hell out of tOSU coming off of that stinker and 30+ days off?
Get a clue man. tOSU is gonna hang at least 50 on that sorry defense.
- December 03, 2006 6:28 PM
nathanp2112 said...
"Also, as much as I hate the BCS system, it would be another fumble if a team that didn't even win it's own conference was able to play in the Championship game."
Not if that squad is legitimately the second-best college football team in the NCAA at the time of the voting. But apparently you favor a system where only conference champions play for the NCAA title.
Which I guess is an idea I could get behind...
if I had the reasoning capacity of a Buckeye, a Gator or a divot.
- December 03, 2006 6:53 PM
Nitz said:
"apparently you favor a system where only conference champions play for the NCAA title."
Why should a team that couldn't even win it's own conference get a shot at a national title? If they aren't good enough to win their own conference, they don't deserve a shot. As for Michigan, they had their shot on November 17th and didn't execute. They had opportunity and there are NO SECOND CHANCES IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL
- December 03, 2006 6:59 PM
With that kind of logic, one could argue that Florida had their chance to go undefeated and be the undisputed #2 team... but they lost to an average Auburn team... and would have had absolutely NO chance of making it to the NC game except that they happen to be fortunate enough to play an EXTRA game at the end of the season and were able to beat an overrated Arkansas to bump up their rating... so much for NO SECOND CHANCES...
- December 03, 2006 7:03 PM
Nate, No second shots in college football...except for Florida in '96.
- December 03, 2006 7:08 PM
or Oklahoma in '03 when they LOST their conference championship game 35-7 to Kansas St and STILL advanced to the BCS National Champtionship game to play LSU...
- December 03, 2006 7:11 PM
Michigan 24
Ohio State 34
Florida 17
I can hardly wait...
- December 03, 2006 7:25 PM
Anon 4:08, and 4:11:
I agree with you. Florida didn't deserve it in '96 nor did OK deserve it in '03. So we should repeat past mistakes?
Anon 4:03:
Florida still won their conference. That was the whole point of what I was saying, you lutz. If Michigan would've won on the 17th, it wouldn't have made any difference what Florida did. Michigan had their shot, quit whining for a 2nd chance at what they couldn't do the 1st time.
For the record, I am not a fan of Florida, Michigan, or OSU; in fact, I've never actually cared for any of their programs.
- December 03, 2006 7:25 PM
- Reed4AU said...
Anon 2:38 said "Uhh..I don't think Michigan would have had any trouble with Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama or Arkansas." Yeah uhh... 2 words for you Ball State.
The system sucks get over it, someone gets screwed almost every year.
Now if UF does get to the title game don't count them out. I would take OSU every single time, but I would've also taken Miami every time in 2001 so it's not a 100% certainty that OSU will win.
Also I wish that somehow someway that LSU could face Michigan instead of the Irish's overrated ass. Top 4 Big 10 vs. top 4 SEC would settle a lot of arguements. Tenn. will beat PSU, Arkansas/Wisconsin should be a good one, the title game will be good, and I'd wish I could see that Michigan/LSU game.
- December 03, 2006 7:31 PM
Nate, nobody really gives a shit about what you think about any program or anything else, for that matter. You're a tosser.
- December 03, 2006 7:32 PM
- Yost said...
To all who keep saying "UF won their conference." That's great. And if they want to change the rules for next year, be my guest.
But it's a moot point as for as THIS year is concerned -- the BCS title game is supposed to match the two best teams. Period.
Now, you can argue Florida is better. But to say UM doesn't deserve a shot b/c of conference thing is not a valid argument.
- December 03, 2006 7:34 PM
Anon 4:32:
That was very Buck-esque of you. Nice form. I send you a tissue to wipe your tears.
- December 03, 2006 7:34 PM
m-fans, let's take one for the team:
1) at the end of this season, let tOSU's dominance go unquestioned. If there's a rematch, no matter who wins, there will always be the 'yeah, but,' a dreaded asterisk on the Nat'l Champ.
2) Let's take the SEC on. Two wins by Michigan and tOSU shut Gary and all the SEC fellators on. We'd better not lose, though:)
- December 03, 2006 7:36 PM
So what would have happened if Michigan beat OSU? I believe there would have been a rematch and Florida would be (similar to now) whining like little beotches.
- December 03, 2006 7:42 PM
"Also Auburn beat Florida by 3, for those who watched that game knows that Auburn scored on the last play of the game when Florida was trying a "Music City Miricale" "Cal vs. Stanford" type play and fumbled it and Auburn ran it back."
Hey dickneck, those points counted as much as your points off that jackoff dropping a punt on the one yard line and you jumping on it in the endzone, we won by 10. F yourself.
- December 03, 2006 7:43 PM
Man I'm not even sure I want to tread in these waters...the passions are running high. And I can understand it. We have a very, very flawed system and I hope the powers-that-be can find some sensible and feasible improvements.
But I did want to add one thought: little is written or said on what is "fair" to Ohio State, the bona-fide and clear #1.
The BCS Championship is supposed to be played between the #1 and #2 BCS teams--no one argues that point--but its primary purpose remains choosing a legitimate college football national champion without undermining the tradition and purpose of the regular season (i.e., a championship WITHOUT a playoff).
Is that primary purpose best served by an Ohio State v Michigan rematch that excludes the champion of the nation's toughest football conference, the SEC?
What does Ohio State get to prove if it beats Michigan again: nothing. On the other hand, Florida may throttle ND in the Sugar Bowl, and for years and years put an asterisk on the Buckeyes' title in their mind.
And what if Michigan beats Ohio State? You get a national champion that did not win its conference championship, and one that is 1-1 against Ohio State in back to back games. Big surprise. A rivalry game is always a coin flip--you could play this game 100 times and it might be 50-50.
No, another OSU v Michigan game for the title diminishes this season's championship ; it diminishes football by ignoring what the regular season already proved: OSU was better than Michigan when it counted. The Buckeyes are Big Ten Champions. Michigan is not #1, we know that because they are #2 in their conference. But Florida? Well, they could be #1. We don't know just yet, we haven't seen them play the Buckeyes.
Yes, we get this type of thing all the time in NCAA Basketball, but keep in mind that 64 teams get a shot in that tourney. That is a hard-earned title. Here, the system hand picks just two.
Shouldn't it be the two teams left that best settle the argument for #1?
Look, I know some are going to vehemently disagree with me on the above, especially on this board. I respect that. I just want to offer another angle on thinking about the quagmire of the BCS this season.
We all deserve better; and Michigan fans deserve to throttle USC. If OSU slips against the Gators, my bet is you will get a share on the title through the AP...
- December 03, 2006 7:43 PM
One final thought. I personally am taking this disappointment like I would want Florida's program and fans to take it had it gone Michigan's way: accept it and move on because both teams have had pretty good years. GO BLUE! BEAT USC!!
Which reminds me, has anyone noticed that John David Booty kind of looks like a Baldwin Brother?
- December 03, 2006 7:45 PM
Anon 4:43:
Your point is well taken, but it also shows the flaws in the BCS system where a team that didn't win its own conference can be a national champion.
By the way, Yost, love the MZone, it's the best blog on the 'net. Keep it up.
- December 03, 2006 7:50 PM
- Yost said...
Thanks, N. Appreciate you reading and the comments. I'm just in a sour mood today due to the imending BCS bad news and some of the asshole comments (such as the one about Bo which I deleted).
- December 03, 2006 7:52 PM
yeah, that comment was way over the line.
- December 03, 2006 7:56 PM
- ttheman said...
I don't think Tressel not voting would change the outcome.
- December 03, 2006 8:08 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
a couple thoughts (since opinions are relatively cheap today).
first, "FLA- Michigan- who's better?" is a tired, answerless debate w/ out a playoff. i don't fault FLA fans or Meyers for pushing (though even most FLA fans i know were a bit put off by his hard sell) for wanting a shot.
second, what i consider, and a fair number of fellow fans and posters, is NOT us getting passed over, per se. it's the pernicious motivation behind it.
20 some coaches didn't wake up today and think "oh, i think FLA is a better team". they didn't think that two weeks ago. they didn't think that last week. FLA has been a solid "4" all along.
if USC had won yesterday, FLA would STILL be a "4". all of the debate by media is so much rationalization.
starting around 8:00 p.m. yesterday, everyone outside the big ten, who had been counting on USC solving this, went to plan B. they didn't want a rematch, but more importantly, they didn't want the big ten locking up the mnc w/ out them.
good luck to FLA. i don't think they have a chance, but they didn't screw michigan- the system did.
next to last thought- what would have happened if Wisco had won in A2? we'd be 10-2 playing in Orlando. they'd be 12-0 and ranked #2? conference co-champions? makes me wonder what the BCS powers would have done w/that?
final thought- big ten now has legitimate shot to finish 1-2-3. if michigan & Wisco hold up their end, we could all end up having the last laugh.
- December 03, 2006 8:12 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Your point is well taken, but it also shows the flaws in the BCS system where a team that didn't win its own conference can be a national champion.
Oh the irony when the guy who heads the damn thing is from the SEC. Perhaps the reason why it has never been mandatory to win the conference is because of how highly the SEC thinks of itself...
Isn't it a rule that no more than 2 teams can crash the BCS party??? But if they had that amount of foresight you cannot tell me nobody who makes the BCS rules never thought of a conference champion requirement.
- December 03, 2006 8:12 PM
rumor is that Phil Fullmer voted UM lower than 3rd. Tressel would not vote.
- December 03, 2006 8:14 PM
Dudes, I know you hate us ND fans and all, but I have to put in my two cents and say you got screwed royally. Put it this way-- a ND-UF sugar bowl was literally the only matchup that didn't leave me weeping with terror at the impending 4 TD blowout loss. Now we're gonna get raped by LSU.
It will be fun though to see that whiny turtle's face when OSU drops 28 on them by halftime.
- December 03, 2006 8:16 PM
mattathias - despite my efforts never to make a personal attack on here and call anyone but myself a wank, I'd love to make the exception to your 2:19 post. A shitty S Carolina team - hmm let's see, SoCar's only loss where the game was never in doubt was against UGA (keep in mind your game with tOSU was also never in doubt for tOSU after about the mid-way mark in the 2nd quarter). The other losses were SoCar coming up short in their final drives - Tenn, Arky, Auburn and UofF for the wins. I'd kill for the Cocks to have had UofM's schedule this year, perhaps we'd be in the hunt with 1 loss as well.
Urban didn't trash your team, relax. He only said if there is a rematch, he would really want a lobby to get a playoff system. He said less rude remarks than nearly every UofM poster on here. Not that anyone cares, except to point out the emotional hypocrisy (which certainly is understandable). I feel your pain, damn right you guys think you deserve a shot (and I agree), but so does UofF (which I also agree with). But damn right Urban should lobby for his team instead of sit on his hands. He's the coach and doing his damndest to make a mark for himself outside a big shadow.
Also, no one on here has played the whatif about whether Michigan played WI at Camp Randall, but many are wondering what if UofF played Arky at Fayetville instead of a neutral field.
And the planting flags comment - are you sure you didn't accidentally put that in there? To the best of my recollection - that is some of your Big Ten & Midwest bretheren's style this year. I don't remember any other team planting flags this year, esp. from the SEC, but I could be wrong. Apparently from your post, you're the only one that isn't.
- December 03, 2006 8:16 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Earl Bruce voted Michigan #3 and George Perles voted Michigan #2...
- December 03, 2006 8:19 PM
So should Lloyd Carr have lobbied harder for Michigan? I say yes. He seemed apathetic and defeated in his interviews. (I know his personality, but this is a special case). I think that he should have voiced the same things as Herbie did on Gameday.
- December 03, 2006 8:51 PM
Correction, Herbie made the comments on ESPN later that night...but you get the point.
- December 03, 2006 8:52 PM
Some jackass voted Fla #1..that's crap..
- December 03, 2006 8:57 PM
Bo would really be proud of this seeing how you guys get to expand on that great Rose Bowl record Bo had. Haha. Bo sucks and so does your team.
- December 03, 2006 9:50 PM
BTW, I was one of the thousands of LSU fans who "pre-ordered" tickets to the Rose Bowl.
They cost nothing - well $1.
They basically took my credit card info and said 'If LSU gets in, you're tickets are bought.'
So I'm out a couple of bucks. If my Tigers ever get to play the Wolverines I'd pay a hell of a lot more than $135 per ticket to see it.
Man, that game is WAY overdue!
- December 03, 2006 10:04 PM
As I am currently living in Georgia, I have had the chance to see the SEC up close and personal. The SEC has some terrific teams, and some great fans. The passion for college football runs very deep here. (I have never seen anything so bitter as Auburn/Alabama, that is hatred beyond anything Michgan/OSU has going), and as a fan of college football myself, it is a great enviroment to knock back a few adult beverages and get into a debate at the local pub.
Do I want to see Michigan play OSU in the Championship game, of course, as a Michigan Alum, I live for that game every year, and a national title hanging in the balance would be beyond my wildest dreams. But, we had a chance and did not win, I can't begrudge not having a rematch.
What I am having problems with is Florida getting it, while Michigan was impotent to really do anything about it. I just don't understand how USC losing a rivalry game makes Florida all of a sudden better then Michigan, which is what happened with the polls today. I suspect some of this is payback for Auburn a few years ago, and part of it is not wanting to see a rematch (ironic though that it is Florida who benefits from that) unfortunately Michigan is the one who has to get punished in this.
The system sucks, but it is what it is until we have a playoff in place. Since the national title is not going to happen, I just want to see the Big 10 kick ass, so next year, I can point out to my SEC friends that their conference is not quite as Lundquistian as they think, and that we do play real football up where it snows.
Go Wisco, Go Blue, and though it kills me to say it...
Go Notre Dame and Go Buckeyes.
Pleease don't leave me down here listening to yet another year of how the SEC has have a monopoly on good football.
- December 03, 2006 10:21 PM
As an OSU fan, I think UM did get the shaft by the BCS this year. Carr handled the situation with utter class and Urban Cryer is still a prick.
Apparently, Cryer did not look into his new teams history before he opened his lying mouth. Did UF win their only national title in a rematch of FSU? Or did I dream that? That prick has lied through his whole career to make himself look good.
Kudos to Carr, taking the high road and not whining about why UM should be there. They have proven themselves on the field. I, for one, would LOVE a rematch with UM in AZ, but the almighty BCS has screwed the pooch again.
All I have to say to this is that I hope UM kicks USC's uppity ass in the Rose Bowl to prove the system SUCKS!!!
GO Blue in Pasadena!!
Go Bucks in Glendale!!
Let's show these assholes that the Big Ten is the best conference in the country!!!
- December 03, 2006 11:08 PM
the problem for fla is: ginn, gonzales, pitcock, pittman, wells, smith, paterson, laurenites, smith, and other players who are just as good--robiske, wells, white, it just goes on and on. The SEC self perceived aura will fade in about two minutes of the first quarter, then its going to be as predictable as gravity.
- December 03, 2006 11:29 PM
---------We didn't whine, that's one of the reasons why we're not going to the BCS title game. Unlike a certain coach in Florida... ---------- no, you saved all of your whining for here.
- December 04, 2006 6:17 PM


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Johannesburg 12 May 2011. SAA announces a new sumptuous in-flight dining menu for its international and regional long-haul flights.
SAA introduces a new in-flight dining menu that is set to delight our customers' palates and further enhance the airline's onboard product offering. After taking into account global trends in dining and cuisine, the airline has designed a healthy menu that aims to tantalise our customers' tastebuds.
International Flights: A selection of canapés, accompanied by the first beverage service, is offered to Business Class customers. International long haul flights have an option of a fresh seafood starter or a hot soup. This is followed by an aperitif, the legendary bubbly from one of France's most famous champagne houses Moet & Chandon Brut Impérial.
A bread basket, filled with an assortment of warm fresh breads and pastries, served with butter and preserves will be offered before the four main course options, which include a poultry, red meat, fish and non-meat dish. The poultry choice is a lighter, healthier option of grilled lemon and herb chicken breast served with steamed baby potatoes, Parisienne butternut and mange touts.
SAA also offers a traditional South African specialty – Kingklip caught off the South African coastline, accompanied by cumin-scented yellow basmati rice, grilled mixed vegetables and a sweetly curried Cape Malay sauce. For a sweet finale, premium class customers will enjoy a cake of the day.
A selection of fine South African cheeses, crackers and preserves will follow, served with beverages from the full bar including South African Port wine Boplaas Cape Tawny Non Vintage. The Boplaas is one of South Africa's most famous Port wines - crowned 2010 "Port of the Year" for the fifth consecutive year at SAA's annual Wine Awards.
For the convenience of Business Class customers SAA also offers an Express Service, affording customers more time to work or relax while onboard. Our Express Breakfast consists of natural or flavoured yoghurt, cereal, sliced seasonal fresh fruit and a selection of bread. Upon customer request, this meal will be served 1 hour and 30 minutes prior to landing.
The Economy Class service includes a selection of three main courses instead of two: a healthy salad starter, followed by a red meat dish, chicken / fish based dish or a non-meat option. Dessert is followed by cheese and crackers, with a full bar offered.
To add to the travel experience of our customers, SAA strives to ensure that an ingredient authentic to the particular route that is serviced is used.
Domestic Flights
Business Class customers will enjoy a choice of a hot English breakfast or Healthy breakfast comprising of fruit, yoghurt and muesli. For routes shorter that 60 minutes, a choice of continental breakfast or healthy fruit breakfast is offered.
SAA customers will be surprised with delectable snacks, consisting of a choice of meat and non meat option. Delectable morning snacks are accompanied by a fruit salad, while a delicious dessert is served as an afternoon snack accompaniment.
Dinner remains hot with a choice of red meat or chicken / fish. In select menus SAA now offers a traditional South African speciality of samp and beans.
Economy Class customers will be delighted by fresh sandwiches, healthy wraps and picnic baskets with savoury and sweet components.
SAA's new menu is served using re-usable or biodegradable bamboo packaging, in line with the airline's carbon offsetting programme.
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Voterama in Congress
Here's how North Carolina senators voted on major issues in the week ending Feb. 1. The House was not in session.
SECRETARY OF STATE KERRY: Voting 94 for and three against, the Senate on Jan. 29, 2013, confirmed Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., as the 68th U.S. Secretary of State. He was sworn into office Feb. 1. Republican Sens. John Cornyn and Ted Cruz of Texas and Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma cast the negative votes.
A yes vote was to confirm Kerry.
Voting yes: Democrat Kay Hagan, Republican Richard Burr
Voting no: None
DEBT-LIMIT SUSPENSION: Voting 64 for and 34 against, the Senate on Jan. 31 sent President Obama a bill (HR 325) to suspend the statutory debt limit until May 19, thus allowing the Treasury to borrow above the current $16.4 trillion limit until then. The borrowing will accommodate spending already approved by Congress. The bill also would impound congressional paychecks if either chamber were to fail to adopt a fiscal 2014 budget blueprint by the required date of April 15.
A yes vote was to pass the bill.
Voting yes: Hagan
Voting no: Burr
EGYPT MILITARY-AID CUTOFF: Voting 79 for and 19 against, the Senate on Jan. 31 tabled (killed) an attempt to end U.S. military assistance to Egypt in response to instability there under a Muslim Brotherhood-led government. Offered to HR 325 (above), the amendment sought, in part, to stop deliveries of military vehicles such as Abrams tanks and aircraft such as the F-16 fighter jet. Backers said the U.S. should not be propping up a government openly hostile to America, while opponents said the amendment would upend U.S.-Egypt relations, harm Israel and worsen chaos in the Middle East.
A yes vote was to kill the amendment.
Voting yes: Hagan, Burr
DOLLAR-FOR-DOLLAR DEBT INCREASE: Voting 54 for and 44 against, the Senate on Jan. 31 tabled (killed) an amendment to HR 325 (above) to cut future discretionary spending by one dollar for every dollar increase in the national debt limit. The debt limit deals with the past in that it applies to money already appropriated by Congress.
A yes vote was to kill the amendment.
Voting yes: Hagan
Voting no: Burr
HURRICANE SANDY AID: Voting 62 for and 36 against, the Senate on Jan. 28 sent President Obama a bill (HR 152) to appropriate $50.5 billion in Hurricane Sandy disaster aid to areas of New Jersey, Connecticut and New York. The appropriation is emergency aid and thus would be deficit spending. About one-third of the aid would provide immediate relief to individuals, businesses, governmental units and other victims of Sandy, with the remainder to be spent on measures to curb damages from future storms. The preventive aid would be spent primarily in the region struck by Sandy last October but in other parts of the U.S. as well.
A yes vote was to pass the bill.
Voting yes: Hagan
Voting no: Burr
DISASTER-AID OFFSET: Voting 35 for and 62 against, the Senate on Jan. 28 refused to pay the $50.5 billion cost of HR 152 (above) by cutting the same amount from military and non-military discretionary spending over the next nine years. Failure of this amendment preserved in the bill the longstanding congressional practice of treating disaster aid as emergency spending to be added to the national debt rather than offset.
A yes vote was to offset Hurricane Sandy aid.
Voting yes: Burr
Voting no: Hagan
A look ahead
The Senate will take up the Violence Against Women Act In the week of Feb. 4. The House schedule is to be announced.
Voterama in Congress on major issues in the week ending Feb. 1
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Postcards from Buster has great new online resources! The just released international episodes – Chile and India – are now available to watch online, along with Buster's previous trips to China, Italy, and Egypt. The Postcards from Buster website has also been updated with educational resources and a new web game called "Buster's International Game Show" (or the "BIG Show," for short).
Educational Materials
There's a new Teacher's Guide for the Postcards from Buster international specials. Designed especially for third graders, the activities in the Teacher's Guide work side-by-side with the episodes now available online. View the guide here.
Web Game
Buster and Arthur fans, look at the new interactive and educational web game "Buster's International Game Show." Hosted by Buster himself and loaded with over 400 questions, it is designed to teach AND quiz kids about food, religion, pastimes, the Arts, history, daily life, and more! Test your skills on the Postcards from Buster website.


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If we were going to find the Grinch who stole Christ, we needed to interview witnesses. So we painstakingly interrogated everyone at the party. All three of them. And we asked them when they had last seen the victim.
But alas, Jesus wasn't at the bottom of a whiskey bottle, or in a child's smile, or burnt into a piece of toast. It turns out he was there with us the whole time. Apparently he was just in the other room grabbing refreshments.
So no matter whether you're celebrating Christmas, or Hanukkah, or Kwanzaa, or just a few days off of work, we hope you have a good one. See, that's the great thing about a holiday, is that it's up to you whether you celebrate it, how you celebrate it, etc. So regardless of whether you celebrate with your family, or your boss, or your friends, or alone, or even with the J-man himself, no one can tell you how to celebrate your holiday but you.
Because it's true, no one ever took the Christ out of Christmas. He's been here all along. Serving up refreshments. And they're delicious.
|Jesus can turn water into wine but he makes a bitchin' paella
Cheers and stay classy, friends,
Brandon and Bryan
Music: Gypsy and the Cat
Beer: Stella
P.S. I'm sure you noticed the addition of our friend Andrew Leon to today's comic. That's because he's our official contest winner, with over 40% of the total votes for our Slim party. If you haven't already stop by his blog, say hello, and tell him that B&B sent you. He'll give you 10% off your next Botox injection.* **
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Not long after the column appeared, Kathy [his wife] and Jamal [his son] went to Worcester to spend Christmas with the Ambush family [his in-laws]. I stayed behind in Washington. Christmas no longer meant anything to me, and I preferred putting in extra time at the office to celebrating a holiday about which I no longer cared.Even as a time to spend with family? There's more to this than dissatisfaction with religion, but he has never even described his loss of Christian faith (though he has described many instances of race discrimination by individuals who purport to be Christians).
I started drinking as soon as they left. I woke up sick and depressed early the next morning. All I could think about was the angry reaction to the Post column.He didn't think of his wife and child going off without him for Christmas? He didn't think about whether he wanted them gone so he could drown himself in drink? This memoir gives us the material to see how much of his problems were personal psychological problems. His grandfather abused him and deprived him of love. He seethed with anger and couldn't feel the love he wanted to feel for his family. He had a serious drinking problem. But the conscious narrative is that he was the victim of race discrimination, especially coming from liberals who wanted to herd black people and deny them their individuality.
It made no sense to me. Why was it wrong for me to speak my mind? All at once I felt an overwhelming desire to drive down to Savannah and see my family. I didn't understand why -- Daddy [his grandfather] and I were as distant as ever -- but somehow I knew I needed to be with them. I threw my clothes into a suitcase, grabbed a six-pack from the refrigerator, and headed out the door. Freezing rain had fallen during the night and the windshield of the car was thickly covered with ice, but that didn't stop me. I chipped it off and headed south, drinking beer and watching other cars slide off the road and crash into one another.
ADDED: In the next paragraph -- I'm blogging as I read -- he decides he has to leave his wife "in order to survive." He confesses to "the emotional emptiness at the center of my marriage," but he has abstained from writing one unkind word about Kathy. That's understandable, but it makes the story a little false, and I'm left wondering about how honestly he's portraying his emotional trajectory. He hasn't said anything about sex. And he began studying for the priesthood and believed at one time he had a calling into that life that demands celibacy. There are sexual themes that are utterly unexplored, and yet they will become central when Anita Hill appears on the scene.


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The project will begin Nov. 16 and is scheduled to be completed by Nov. 21. This critical infrastructure maintenance will be performed 24 hours a day during the time period to minimize the impact on the community and UP operations.
The project will replace the existing rail line inside the tunnel, which amounts to a little more than one mile of track. Existing track will be removed in 40-foot segments and new track will be installed. The project includes replacing 3,600 tons of ballast inside the tunnel to help maintain a stable roadbed. A UP team of 100 will be working at the project site.


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Wharever turns your wheels........
Wharever turns your wheels........
I did a guy in a wheelchair. Absolutely no difference. He was hot too!
I've known a few guys who use wheel chairs who I thought were incredibly hot. Never got the chance to jump their bones though.
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is it the dependance?
I dont understand
I saw a basketball game near me where the players were in wheelchairs. I got such a crush on one of the guys.
I don't believe it was because of the chair. He was just so freaking cute. If I were not attached to someone, I would have pursued that man. (Well, assuming he was gay, which I doubt he was.)
But the chair itself? I guess I can understand somebody being turned on. You might feel more powerful or you might feel very useful to nurture or something.
There are plenty of attractive men out there who are in chairs. If I were single, I would not let somebody's "disability" stop me. (I put disability in quotes because the stud I saw playing basketball didn't seem to be disabled. he was just in a chair.)
I've had a few men in wheeel chairs. The men turned me on, not the fact that they were in the chair. The second one was the best--and had one of the biggest cocks I've ever taken. If he came back to town, I'd hook up with him in a second.
The hottest guy on wheelchair i find is Peter Griffins' neighbour....
"Insanity Is Doing The Same Thing Over & Over Again Expecting To Have Different Results."
i cant even imagine..... but id like to watch!
people have wheelchair fetishes? wtf?
Here's a pic. I know I'm nothing great to look at, but I'm in the wheelchair so there ya go. hehe
I don't have a wheelchair fetish but I have afetish for hot guys with a prosthetic leg.
I guess I'm not good enough then. dammit. It is proving difficult to find a guy that will take my virginity and make me love the cock.
There's a few hot guys in wheelchairs that I've wanted to checkout, but I feel back cause I think they're going to think I'm staring at them for being disabled!
This thread has made me feel utterly sick lmao!
I went out with a guy in a wheelchair, when we got to it we blew each other. I was amazed at the size of his cock. It like like 7.5.
Soo. I have been in a wheelchair for a little over a year, I've has sex a couple times, most guys say they love it because there in control. Lol
guys message me
I do find it sexy too and I have been with a couple of guys in wheelchairs. It was hot, the guys were amazing and it's not about being in control.
Everyone is different and we're all the same!
Wow. I have cerebral polsy and let me tell you its not easy to find anybody to date, to have sex or anything.
Hi guy in a chair here paralyzdd legs but love sex
Trsytan is not literally paralyze but hope at least this one will turn you on..
Dude, just because you're in a wheelchair doesn't mean you can excuse being lazy in regards to your looks! As long as you dress and scrub up well, you shouldn't have much problem.
I for one would like to fool around with you if you got a haircut. And I promise you, I am hot.
I'm a goog looking 43yo real normal gay guy, down to earth and in a wheelchair here n there ... I'd love to meet younger hot guys for one time or FWB .... whatever works. I love adventureious guys into all kinds of things; public, freeway/car, 3-ways, role play ... just get a load off n chill out. I can't host, sorry. But I have a vehicle in the Martinez, CA area (San Francisco east bay).
hit me back at gog le name kindashyatfirst
I'm not in a wheelchair but find it a huge turn on. I also like guys with leg braces and/or crutches. I really like paralyzed legs -- don't know why but just do. Hit me up if you want to video skype, etc. Would love to chat.
One of my good friends is in a wheelchair. I use to tease him all the time and tell him he was someone's fetish. I told him there is probably someone wanting to cut a hole in the seat of his chair and go to tear his ass up, lol. He thinks im nuts.
All I want, ain't no other, we together, I'll remember, sweet love, all night long - All Night / Beyonce.
Anyone want to video chat on Skype?
I thought I was the only one I feel so happy and relieved love when I see a hot wheelchair guy such a turn on anyone from NYC ?


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U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby said he is optimistic about the nation's future but remains worried about the economic direction America is pursuing. Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa, expressed these concerns this morning at the first Chamber in Session of 2013, hosted by the Chamber of Commerce of West Alabama.
TUSCALOOSA | U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby said he is optimistic about the nation's future but remains worried about the economic direction America is pursuing.
Shelby, R-Tuscaloosa, expressed these concerns this morning at the first Chamber in Session of 2013, hosted by the Chamber of Commerce of West Alabama.
The senator was the keynote speaker for the event and used the time to praise local leaders as well as the University of Alabama football team before turning the discussion to national affairs.
"I do believe this is a great country ...," Shelby said. "But we do have challenges in this country."
Shelby, now serving his sixth term in the U.S. Senate, said he believes most Americans share his concerns over the financial health of a nation that produces more goods than any other country but remains one of the largest debtor nations on the planet.
The senior Republican on the Senate Appropriations Committee said the ongoing financial failings of European countries — among them the double- and potential triple-dip recessions of certain countries — are not isolated events and could happen here, as well.
"We're on financial suicide watch right now ...," Shelby told the crowd of business leaders, elected officials and residents packed into a ballroom at the Hotel Capstone. "We're going to have to get serious about not coming up to what we call the fiscal cliff."
There are a number of approaches that can be taken, the Republican said. However, he does not favor the Democrats' approach of increasing taxes to offset the shortfalls.
And Shelby said explicitly that he doesn't think that successful Americans should be asked to pay more. In fact, most workers should be taxed less.
"I don't believe anybody should have to pay more than 25 percent of their income in taxes," Shelby said. "Anybody."
After the meeting, Shelby said his talks with Alabama residents during a recent tour of the state have shown him that the fate of the economy is on the minds of most people, too.
And these fears, Shelby said, should be felt in the White House and halls of Congress.
"The American people — collectively — are pretty smart," Shelby said. "They probably worry about the country more than people in Washington do.
"I think, underlying in the subconscious of the people in this country, is the debt culture. I think people are worried about that, and I hope those concerns can penetrate the halls of Washington."
Shelby didn't spend all his time at the podium discussing national issues. He also praised the efforts and accomplishments of University of Alabama System Chancellor Robert Witt, Tuscaloosa Mayor Walt Maddox and Northport Mayor Bobby Herndon.
He also talked up his alma mater's back-to-back championship seasons on the collegiate gridiron.
Shelby, who earned both his undergraduate and law degree from the University of Alabama, said he was approached for friendly wagers by two colleagues in Washington, both of whom believed the Notre Dame Fighting Irish would get the upper hand on the Crimson Tide in this year's BCS National Championship Game.
It didn't take long for Shelby to realize he'd be enjoying a free dinner and box of candy.
"After about three or four plays, I knew that game was over," he said.
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Products Used:
Urban Decay Naked Palette ($44)
Urban Decay Primer Potion
Colors used:
24/7 eye pencil in zero and whiskey
Lash Fusion XL mascara
NARS blush in Madly
Lipfusion Infatuation in Angelic
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Very soft and feminine! Can't wait to try.ReplyDelete
gorgeous! you are so pretty and the color combinations for this look are just stunning!
this look is so gorgeous and I love the hairflower!
im going to try this out :)
xoxo Christine
wow, looks so beautiful - great look =)ReplyDelete
love that palette!!ReplyDelete
I can't wait to get this palette!! Very nice girl!ReplyDelete
Love this look! It's so pretty!ReplyDelete
Great colors - they look good! Hope I can buy this pallette in australia one day!
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I was hoping you would get this palette! Love this look. Yes, please do another with Naked.ReplyDelete
beautiful! and i love the hair accessory on you :)ReplyDelete
So pretty! I love neutral looks! They've become my fave!ReplyDelete
Yes!! Another video with a more natural/nude look is a must! Keep them coming! :)ReplyDelete
LOVE the colors, they really make your blue eyes pop!! ~X~ReplyDelete
Fab, I will definitely try this!ReplyDelete
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Beautiful, real inspiration for this palette, as I've stayed near the lighter end but will def now experiment with the darker colours!!
May I ask though, how is that the whites of your eyes are SO white? This is part of the reason your makeup always looks so great.
Please don't tell me it's because you don't drink alcohol cos I love my margeritas!!
Love this look! One reason I haven't bought the pallet yet is that I'm a little overwhelmed with just how many colours there are, I'm not great at coming up with my own combos. So its great to see you do such a great tutorial! Would also love to see a video on something more basic. This smokey look would be great for a date, but is too much for my day to day life.ReplyDelete
Hi Tiffany!
LOVE this tutorial and it'd be so great if you'd post a few more up using the UD Naked Palette!
Also I'm wondering, would you please please do a tutorial on blue eye shadows??
Thank you!
So beautiful! Congratulations! LulubaReplyDelete
I also am curious about how your eyes are SO white!
I love your tutorials and you've got me using MAC for the first time ever...didn't love the makeover they gave me and I'm curious what you would do with the eyeshadows they sold me
Blanc Type
Satin Taupe
And I use the Painterly Paint Pot as a base. Thanks!
hi tiffany...i love your blog..i'm from brazil..please visit my blog and tell what do u think, but blog it's in portuguese... if there's a problem, just tell me ok? you're very beautiful...
I just got my palette last night. I can't wait to play around with it and I think this is a look that I will have to try out.
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I meant to post my other comment here! LOL. Love this look, it's just gorgeous. More Naked tutorials, please!ReplyDelete
Hi! I'm from Poland. LOVE your blog. The new look you just did is just awesome. However, I cannot find this palette anywhere. Could you please give me alternative colors in MAC or Smashbox. Thank you and can't wait to see more looks
Beautiful Look! You are always an inspiration. The Urban Decay Naked palette has been out of stock here in Miami! :(ReplyDelete
lovely makeup...I have been wanting this palette like forever!!!
.I gave you a sunshine award,check it out here...
More Naked tutorials, please!ReplyDelete
Ok so I'm not sure how much you've used Victoria's Secret make-up, but I was wondering if at some point you might do a review about it. I'm used to REALLY cheap drugstore make-up, never saw the sense in spending tons on it. But my hubby bought me a gift certificate to VS and I used it to buy a bunch of make-up. Let me just say I FREAKIN' HATED IT!!! Some of the shadows were ok but the mascara and the liner bites! I bought the pencil and it doesn't glide or stay on. The mascara has this scary comb thingy and it sucks! So I was wondering if you may do a review, maybe it's just me. But not an impressive first try on expensive cosmetics at all.ReplyDelete
I don't know if I already said that, but your hair looks better than ever! :D
I wish I had an Urban Decay Naked Palette, but I can't purchase one here in Brazil =/
I do love this palette!!
Is your bracelet a PANDORA?
I have a Brighton & love it!!!
this palette rocks my world.ReplyDelete
That's so pretty! I just got notification from Urban Decay today that the palette is back in stock (to those that signed up to be notified). I had 48 hours to log-in and claim one, but it only took me about 48 seconds!
I can't wait to get this palette and try out this look (and many, many others).
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I can't wait for this week. That when they will come back:-)ReplyDelete
hello Tiffany!
I am from France and I really love your blog and your tutorials ;)
you are a really good make up artist and thanks a lot to share your world with us!!
wish for you all the best in the future and can't wait to discover your new videos!
XOXO, Leonie
ps: this naked palette has been out of stock for ever here....
December 17, 2010 11:55 PM
i just got my palette and tried this look and its to die for!!! i absolutely love and i will be doing it all the time now. keep it coming Tiffany!ReplyDelete
I can't wait to attempt to recreate this look. I have the Naked palette but so far, nothing earth shattering...because I'm trying to stay in my comfort zone I think! :) Thank you for all your videos. I'm sure my husband thinks I'm crazy because I watch you all the time!!! :)ReplyDelete
i can't believe those aren't false lashes. i need to get that mascara!ReplyDelete
Loved the tutorial! You mentioned you were planning to do another tutorial for a softer look with the Naked palette; when can we expect to see that? Can't wait - you're amazing!ReplyDelete
Hi Tiffany,
I enjoy watching your videos on the NAKED palette. Keep up the good work!


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The Warning: 01:09:00 End: 01:41:40
Featured Music "Chemistry" by Tyrannosaurus Grace: 01:41:40 End: 01:44:56
The Front Page: Start: 01:44:56 End: 02:15:04
Tailgate Playoffs Wild Card Special: Start: 02:16:05 End: 02:28:37
The Featured Music segment presents Tyrannosaurus Grace, a 5 piece Pop Rock band from Ellensburg, WA. founded in late 2009 by childhood friends Tim Held and Justin Foss. They released their first self titled album in October of 2010 and currently play shows all over the Pacific Northwest as they continue to write and record new material all the time. The members are: Tim Held-Vocals, Guitar, Keyboards, Justin Foss-Guitar, keyboard, audio production, Jeff Gerrer- Bass, David Hoffman- Drums, Lakyn Bury-Vocals, guitar, keyboard. Their album is available on iTunes, Amazon.com, and CDBaby.com. Their website is tgraceband.
Original music in the show by Del Rio. Get his latest single, Small Town Hero on iTunes. Check out more, including the Super Mega Worm mix and other mash-ups on his ReverbNation page or Facebook page.
Jeff can also be seen on The Totally Rad Show. They've gone daily so there's a new segment to watch every day of the week!
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The board authorized expenditures for the construction, inspection and testing for a rail access bridge that will connect five Class 1 railroads and the authority's terminal railway to an Intermodal Container Transfer Facility (ICTF), a rail intermodal facility and the second leg of the authority's Choctaw Point intermodal program.
The second measure extended Moffatt and Nichol's engineering and program management through Fiscal Year 2013 for key components within the authority's Choctaw Point project.
As approved, the port authority will let $11.5 million in contracts for the construction, inspection and testing of a rail access bridge into the intermodal rail facility. The ICTF will service import/export containerized cargoes moving through APM Terminals Mobile, as well as domestic containerized cargoes from regional manufacturers.
"The ICTF program is critical to servicing our regional market shippers, who have to rail their containerized freight longer distances at higher costs," said James Lyons, director and chief executive for the port authority. "With this project, we can alleviate time and cost pressures on our customers, expand the container terminal's natural market reach and provide an intermodal ramp for domestic shipments."
The second measure approved by the port authority's board authorized extending program management services for key components of the Choctaw Point projects, including the ICTF, site development work at APM Terminals Phase II container terminal expansion and the north tract of the affiliated logistics park.


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Branch Meeting
Start:7 May 2013
Time:The meeting of the branch committee will begin at 7 p.m. and the full meeting will begin at 7.30 p.m.
LocationTwyn y Tyr Public House Baglan
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The meeting of the South Wales Variety Branch Committee will be held in the Twyn y Tyr Public House Baglan on the 5th of May. All welcome.
Further details and contact information
Shelli 01685 812 779
Telephone: work 01685 812779