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Saturday, October 02, 2010
Michigan vs. Indiana Open Thread
Go Blue!
(Picture courtesy our friend Mikoyan and his photography blog, Michigan Exposures).
34 comments:
- Andy said...
I really do not like 3:30 start times for our games, waiting through the noon games is too painful.
I am watching Gameday and just heard that Mark Dantonio is back in the hospital with a blood clot in his leg. He will not be in the pressbox watching the game this week.
I still think they will have him on the sidelines next week in Ann Arbor.
- October 02, 2010 11:13 AM
- justthinking said...
You know, I look at that picture and say to myself,
"As the winningest program in the history of college football, with all of the great players that the University of Michigan has fielded over the last 132 years, the head coach makes a conscious decision - after two back to back losing seasons, and his own job on the line - to put a winged helmet on a young man who (aside from the Center) will touch the ball on every single Offensive possession that he is on the field...and he can't even tie his own shoes!
...because he runs like the very wind itself.
"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going..." -John 3:8
"No man has power over the wind to contain it." -Ecclesiastes 8:8
- October 02, 2010 11:17 AM
- Bigasshammm said...
I too loathe the 3:30 game. I have never been a patient person and waiting around all that time is brutal. Plus I work on Saturday's and usually get done about 11:30 so it's always perfect for a noon game.
Also people like to plan parties and shit Sat evenings where I have to miss half the game like I will have to the next 2 weeks. Grrrr. Thankful for the BTN app that allows me to listen to the game.
- October 02, 2010 11:18 AM
- GoBlueBob said...
It felt strange sleeping in today and not heading to AA at 5am. Will be watching the game today at home and trying to get some stuff done before and after. Michigan hockey starts tonight but I gave my tickets to a guy from work to take his 5 year old son. There are just too many good football games on tonight. Michigan should be able to outscore Indiana but I do not take anything for granted anymore after the last couple years.
- October 02, 2010 11:19 AM
- Andy said...
TP breaks off a 65 yard run on the bucks first play against the Illini. He get caught from behind on the 5 yard line.
Impressive, but I don' think our QB would have been caught. I'm just saying...
- October 02, 2010 12:57 PM
- southcarolinawolverine said...
I just hope the defense can make Indiana punt 3-5 times today. We know what the offense can do, but it will be a shoot-out. Don't be surprised if Indiana puts 35+ points on the board. We just need more.
- October 02, 2010 1:23 PM
- TitleIX said...
tUOS only up by 7 late in the fourth. GO ILLINI
- October 02, 2010 2:33 PM
- TitleIX said...
Can we just always play offense? Gerg is making me old....
- October 02, 2010 3:45 PM
- TitleIX said...
- October 02, 2010 3:59 PM
- TitleIX said...
TP who????
- October 02, 2010 4:03 PM
- TitleIX said...
Denard Robinson is like a poetry slam.
Alllllll flow.
- October 02, 2010 4:44 PM
- Andy said...
21-21 at half. IU scores with no time left.
Our defense is painful to watch.
- October 02, 2010 5:09 PM
- TitleIX said...
I will continue to say that our BEST defense is a BALL CONTROL offense....
it is going to be a loooong Big Ten Season.
Sparty just went up on Bucky Badger 27-17.
Illini hang tough with tUOS
Minny almost did it..
- October 02, 2010 6:05 PM
- TitleIX said...
time for the chocolate milk to kick in??
- October 02, 2010 6:07 PM
- GoBlueBob said...
I am not sure how the rest of the season will end up but I am not sure I can take many more of these kind of games. I will take 5-0 going into the msu game and let's see what they can do next week.
- October 02, 2010 7:09 PM
- TitleIX said...
I am not so optimistic given how our "defense" plays
ok DVR wizards...someone find the clip of Gerg sucking up to RR as the clock ran out.
I can lip read it if you can find it......
Gerg better find the solution quick.
- October 02, 2010 7:14 PM
- 616goblue said...
Was in Kalamazoo for WMU's homecoming and as per MAC tradition, left town when the game started against Idaho--why?
Well, T9, Andy and GoBlueBob met the reason why before the UConn game...
I'm just going to say it, because BAH and I have been texting it all season...All Hail Black Jesus!
So glad little brother is also an extremely flawed 5-0...it will be fun next Saturday in Ann Arbor!
BTW for those of us with a 2 hour drive to A2, a 3:30 kickoff is welcomed when you have a game you really WANT to tailgate before entering the even bigger Big House.
- October 02, 2010 8:50 PM
- Mikoyan said...
I wish I were listening to Ufer instead of Beckmann and Brondstetter on that last drive
- October 02, 2010 9:03 PM
- justthinking said...
Spot on with "We need to take LONGER than 2 plays and :45 seconds to score a touchdown". Christmas!
The chocolate milk is working for MIKE MARTIN. His 20 yard sack was, was, was....I can't find words to describe that one. HE JUST NEEDS ANOTHER TWO GUYS ON THE@#e$r%t^@!#$%^@#$%^@#$%^#$%^ LINE OF SCRIMMAGE TO HELP HIM OUT!!!!@#$%^&@#$%^&#$%^&*#$%^&*#$%^&*$%^&*.
Good catch on Gerg's suck up there at the end. His expression was priceless. I would also like to read his lips. You talk about a #$%^&@#$%^&#$%^&* HOT SEAT.
Did anyone else yell at their TV's when Denard called the timeout and RichRod came halfway out on the field like a possessed demon? I was like, STFU! The kid you are yelling at is singlehandedly saving your @$$!!!
more later....my bloodpressure is going up again...
- October 02, 2010 9:49 PM
- Andy said...
Never a doubt.
- October 02, 2010 10:07 PM
- southcarolinawolverine said...
I thinkg Greg Robinson said, "please let me coach one more game. I think we can do better." It was either that or, "please do not fire me until after the end of the season."
Watching other teams today just makes the Michigan defensive backs look worse than they are. Other teams cover guys at least within a yard or two. Our guys are 3-5 yards away.
We would be amazing if we had a better D.
- October 02, 2010 11:15 PM
- Bigasshammm said...
They need to just hand him the trophy already. Only player in college football history to go 200 and 200 twice. And there's still 7 games.
- October 02, 2010 11:16 PM
- Yost said...
We don't even need a good defense with this offense. If our D was simply average we'd be at worst a 9-3 team. With this D, we could still go 5-7. Crazy.
- October 02, 2010 11:31 PM
- justthinking said...
I'm betting that we don't see a single 3 man rush the entire game against Sparty next week.
It was an early prayer of mine that we were only rushing 3 during the non-conference games so that we didn't tip our hat when we blitzed on every down once Big Ten play started....some prayers obviously don't get answered.
I honestly think that the D scheme changes a bunch this week and we start bringing the house across the line of scrimmage, and just take our chances with our younger DBacks. Baptism by fire.
We really have such an explosive offense, that if we just let the D hang it all out and live with our lumps if we get torched, we get our blazing Offense out there that much faster.
That does several things:
1) It unleashes even more Martin HULK RAGE if he knows he gets an extra guy or two on the pass rush - and we get more pressure, more sacks, more bad passes and hopefully a few more picks - just from the rush.
2) If we do get some good D stops going, it will pump the younger guys up in the backfield and they could step up their games and play better - making bigger hits, or making great plays on the ball like Ray V did last week with his pick.
3) If we keep the offense on the field more often, they are less likely to "go cold" like they did a little bit there when the D actually did have some great stops. BALANCE!
4) It may make for even larger high scoring shootouts that what we've previously seen, but that will just mean more of the Denard Show (is that such a bad thing?).
5) (Directly related to #4 above). It will most certainly take a few years of life off the ol' ticker if these "last drive to win" shootouts continue. But what a way to go out!
- October 03, 2010 12:40 AM
- Mikoyan said...
Oh yeah thank you for posting that picture of Denard. Hopefully I will have some better pictures of him as he shoves the ball up Sparty....
- October 03, 2010 1:24 AM
- Catie said...
Bend don't break defense is not the way to go. Sure it saves the big break away plays, but truly, it only allows the opposing offense to nickel and dime their way down the field. That was perfectly evident yesterday against Indiana. Although their offense wasn't terrible, we simply can't play this defense against the rest of the big 10 and expect to win.
On the other hand.........our offense is almost flawless. Yes Denard is spectacular, However I don't see it said much, he wouldn't be as great if he didn't have an O line that was making their blocks, our offense rocks the house!!!
- October 03, 2010 7:59 AM
- Ron said...
I laughed out loud and then yelled at the TV when the announcers said that the Michigan Defense (and I use that term loosely) was in bend but don't break mode. Oh yeah, they were in bend mode alright. As in bend over, grab the handles and take it mode. The IU offense did whatever they wanted to do, whenever they wanted to do. We're very lucky they ran out of time on that last drive, or they would've scored again. No way we make a stop.
I kind of hope Gerg was just begging for help packing up his stuff because he's already gone. But then again, will that really make a difference this year? Is it really coaching and not just a matter of not having enough talent or experience on defense (again, I feel odd using that word to describe the 11 guys that go out onto the field when the other team has the ball)
I have to say though, it's so amazing having someone wearing the winged helmet do all the unbelievably, awesome, breathtaking things that Denard does. I rewind every time he scores and watch it again, again and again.
- October 03, 2010 10:08 AM
- surrounded in columbus said...
there's no doubt about it- we are the worst 5-0 team in the country.
we should try to get used to it.
- October 03, 2010 10:33 AM
- Bigasshammm said...
Firing GERG won't solve anything. We all knew months before it started that this defense was going to be worse then last year. With Woolfolk's injury that sealed the deal. There is little to no talent on the defensive side of the ball. I am really surprised we haven't seen one or two receivers play both sides of the ball. They have to be a better option than 5'9" walkons. You could put any number of defensive coaches to run the defense and it won't be any different. If we had 06's defense M would be a clear cut NC contender. Alas.
It took RR 3 years to build the offense let's hope he starts focusing on defense now.
- October 03, 2010 11:20 AM
- trikman said...
I hate the 3-3-5 defense! Whatever happened to the idea of pressure the QB?
Not looking forward to MSU......
By the way thanks Yost for coming back!
- October 03, 2010 11:22 AM
- Yost said...
Thank you for reading again!
LOL re: bend over D. Might have to figure out a way to use that in a post.
We're in RR's 3rd year and the defense keeps getting worse - despite top 20 classes. At some point RR has to be accountable.
Sad but true. We could literally go 5-7 again and I wouldn't be surprised. Our D is that bad.
- October 03, 2010 12:39 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
but Yost, who else but Michigan fans would have this kind of angst over being 5-0?
can you imagine any other fan base being this distraught over being undefeated?
the D is exactly what we thought it would be - young & inexeperienced. it's played like everyone thought it would. and we're still 5-0.
we didn't lose to UConn like many predicted. we didn't lose to ND.
we're much further along than many predicted.
when it's all said & done, i'd rather be a terrible 5-0 than the best 3-2 team in the country.
- October 03, 2010 7:17 PM
- Mikoyan said...
At the beginning of the season someone asked me to predict their record and I said 7-5. And then he asked me how and I thought they would be 3-1 after the first 4 (with the loss coming against ND). And then with wins against Indy, Sparty, Purdue and someone else they would hit my 7-5 mark. I'm still sticking by 7-5 because I don't think the offense will be able to put up enough points to overcome the defense. So we'll see.
Although I really wish they'd re-evaluation the bend but don't break because it's basically a prevent and prevent defense doesn't prevent much.
- October 03, 2010 7:57 PM
- justthinking said...
Yo T-9:
Not sure if you'll check back here or not this late in the thread, but MVictors has two still pics of GERG's expression to Rodriguez after the game:
I'm not great at reading expressions - but I think he said,
"We did it Rich! We did it! We're 5-0 and we did it with that BULL#$%3-3-5 prevent Defense for FIVE straight games!!! Sparty will never expect the five man, all balls out, front we are going to lay on them next week! We pulled it off! Pure gamesmanship! This is going to be BEEAAAUUUUUUUTTTTIIIIFFFULLLLLL!!
(or something like that)
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Rebel fighters inspect the debris on a street in the Bustan al-Basha district in the Syrian city of Aleppo on Tuesday, January
- CNN's Nic Robertson and Nick Paton Walsh examine what the future may hold for Syria
- Paton Walsh: 'Very little doubt' the rebels will defeat the regime of Bashar al-Assad
- Robertson: It will take years to rebuild the country's infrastructure, economy
More than 500,000 Syrians have sought refuge in neighboring countries, and the U.N. believes that number could top a million in the coming year.
Will the situation improve in 2013, or will the bloody stalemate continue? There have been encouraging signs lately for the opposition, which has made military gains against the regime of President Bashar al-Assad. But some observers say al-Assad's grip on power remains strong.
CNN's Nic Robertson and Nick Paton Walsh, who have reported from inside Syria, analyze the conflict and what the future may hold.
Will the rebels defeat the regime?
Nick Paton Walsh: I think there's very little doubt that will happen. It's not going to be one day in which there's a decisive changing of the flags over a building in Damascus and then the whole country turns 180 degrees in terms of its government. But there have been weeks now of consistent bad news for the regime. ...
Where things stand in Syria
Military police chief reportedly defects
Rebels claim major gains in Damascus
That affects not only how people feel inside the regime's inner circle, it affects how their sponsors feel. And, of course, it boosts morale for the rebels as well. So that real sense of momentum has been in place for months. It's beginning to nip around the capital, and I don't think any observer at this point thinks that the Assad government really has a chance in terms of retaining long-term power over the country.
Will al-Assad stay and fight until the end as he has said? Or will he go?
Nic Robertson: The rebels have said that they won't rest until Assad is completely gone; they won't negotiate with them. But he's showing no signs of leaving whatsoever.
Perhaps there are early indications that Assad does realize that he cannot hold on to complete power as he has in the past. So perhaps what we're seeing is the regime entering a new phase now where, rather than fight to hold on to everything, they're fighting to have a better negotiating position in the future.
Paton Walsh: The question really is how messy is that final stand of Assad actually going to be? You'll see pockets of these regime forces, particularly in the north, being left to their own devices. ... The real problem of course is going to be how does the rebel militia, how do these disparate groups deal with these Allawi military prisoners once they've actually taken them into custody?
If al-Assad is overthrown, then what?
Paton Walsh: There will be a period of definitely chaos, warlordism perhaps, and sort of a vacuum whilst the armed groups who won the rebellion struggle for some degree of control over territory.
I don't really agree with the more dramatic visions of a nightmare future in Syria that's something between "Mad Max" and the Taliban. I think it's going to be a much more watered-down version of that. I think there's an optimism, perhaps amongst many Syrians, that they are educated, moderate in terms of the Islamic values they have. And remember also, this wasn't really a rebellion started over Islamic principles. It is not Iran or Afghanistan. This was about trying to reject what they saw as a corrupt and repressive regime. ...
It's classic in these situations, once the major battle is finished, for world attention to radically drift elsewhere onto the next crisis. But that will be the moment when Syria needs help at its most. It will be the moment where the Syrians finally expect the West to actually step in now that the complicated issue of who's arming who and who's fighting who has been put aside.
What kind of help will Syria need?
Robertson: The economy in Syria is completely destroyed, and it's going to take years to rebuild. So any notion that there can be a quick turnaround in 2013 is fiction.
What we're going to see in 2013 are large numbers of displaced people, millions internally inside the country. Thousands, tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of people without shelter, their homes have been destroyed. Large areas of Damascus, Homs, Hama, Aleppo have been destroyed, people without homes. And they're going to be desperate for food.
Will Assad stay or leave Syria?
Russian official: Assad losing control
Syrian rebels or terrorists?
Paton Walsh: I think once the majority of the violence ends, once the nuts and bolts of the civil war are behind them, then food, utilities will come back reasonably quickly because of the nature of where Syria is and who it's bordered by.
The real question though is, how do you rebuild a country where so many districts of so many of its cities have already been flattened in many ways? I mean, two or three months ago, Aleppo was in pieces, really struggling to keep anything going.
Robertson: You have this whole opposition that hasn't even engaged yet with the opposition outside of the country and the opposition that's fighting there. So to see how they're going to get together and govern together is very difficult. ... Any sort of sense of these opposition groups want to coalesce around democracy, those are not the indications we have at the moment. They're talking about "We won't stop until we get rid of Assad." These are not people who are showing a great ability to compromise so far.
How will the world respond or help or engage with the new Syria?
Paton Walsh: I think, in many ways, the process of that is under way, with the U.S. trying to influence a government in exile (and) many opposition figures gathering in Doha or Turkey to try and work out how that government would look like.
But the problem is that might not relate to the daily struggles people are facing on the ground inside Syria after what would be a two-year long war. And bridging that gulf between the men in suits in five-star hotels ... and people on the ground who may be starving or missing the roof of their house from shelling is going to be the enormous challenge.
Robertson: Distrust is endemic region-wide. The distrust of the United States and Europe is deep-rooted in the culture in Syria already from 40 years of Assad rule, from watching what's happened in other Arab countries, from hearing what radical Islamists say what the West is trying to do with Islam.
All these things have been fomenting in the background. And now you have a scenario where the West hasn't come to the aid of the Syrians, so people are deeply angry.
I don't think we're going to find friends quickly in Syria. We're certainly not going to win trust there quickly. And that's going to make whatever we want to see -- the international community wants to see happen in Syria -- that's going to make it much, much harder to achieve.


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"We had to make the difficult decision to let go of some great game developers. This is never easy, and we're doing all we can to assist those developers affected," TimeGate president Adel Chaveleh told Polygon yesterday. "TimeGate is preparing, as is the entire industry, for the transition to next-generation consoles and new business models. As part of this reinvention, all projects and strategic initiatives continue to move forward at the studio."
Unofficially, unnamed sources told Polygon that around 25 people were laid off, and the move was connected to a publishing deal falling through earlier in the month.
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Friday, February 22, 2008
According to the Austin American Statesman story linked here, Democratic front-runner Barak Obama showed a little college football spirit when he stopped by to see Mack Brown and his Longhorns before his debate last night with Hillary Clinton on the UT campus.
71 comments:
- Catie said...
It is dangerous to mix politics here, but since you brought it up......GO OBAMA!!!!
(And if Hilary wins I am moving to Canada!!)
- February 22, 2008 4:48 AM
- DaBraylon17 said...
well, i think i am going to vote for him, as i would NEVER vite for clinton (or a woman for that matter). i am a republican, and i like mccain, but i don't like the fact that he won't end the "war" in iraq. i'm sick of it quite frankly. that is pretty much the only reason that i won't vote for mccain. there is no need to be over there anymore. if obama will do what he says he will do (pull the troops out), then he gets my vote.
- February 22, 2008 8:40 AM
- DaBraylon17 said...
- February 22, 2008 8:40 AM
- Catie said...
""(or a woman for that matter)""
Why does that not surprise me that you would say that dabraylon17?
- February 22, 2008 8:57 AM
- Joshua said...
Speaking of politics- I din't see much comment on the Toomer article. If you missed it he has no contact with the program and talked about how much of the playing time was politically driven. Interesting comment from a player who was on the field a great deal. anyone else think thre could be somethng to that? I mean how many All-World recruits have we had who never saw the light of day? I'm really hoping that one thing R2 brings is a sense of true competition like what they have at USC. In other words, everyone gets their shot, those who play have earned it regardless of class.
- February 22, 2008 9:34 AM
- Crock said...
I was wondering when the election would come up on here. McCain has my vote - but I sincerely hope that Obama wins out over Hillary for the Democrats.
dabraylon - fyi - it is 2008. I would like to think that Americans will chose a candidate based on the issues, NOT silly things like gender or race - I know it's naive - but I can hope - right?
By the way - it would be interesting to find out more about the Toomer issue....
- February 22, 2008 10:47 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
He was visiting Shady Brown? I am surprised because I cannot think of a single coach or past football player who isn't conservative. Bo and Woody were both ardent Republicans. I think Johnny Rodgers is a Republican. Also, Mike Ditka, the patron saint of Chicago football, is a Republican. Tom Osborne? Republican.
Joe Manchin, the de facto athletic director at WVU, er, governor of West Virginia attended WVU on a football scholarship and IS a Democrat; however, he didn't end up playing due to injury and he is against abortion.
In any case, I would extremely surprised if Mack Brown, a football coach at Texas of all states, is a Democrat.
- February 22, 2008 12:22 PM
- Tom C said...
Friend of mine is the gop head here in sc. He tells me it's hard to get women elected because women won't vote for them. My wife says she wouldn't vote for a woman president unles she is post menapause. Something about knives and other sharp items...
- February 22, 2008 12:23 PM
- intellidouche said...
I think the candidate with the biggest dick should be president.
And that would be Hillary.
- February 22, 2008 12:30 PM
- Joshua said...
I think the Toomer situation is being looked into a bit more, it made ppl curious about what went on.
Obama is a pragmatist as well as a sports fan and one hell of an intelligent guy. A photo op like that is brilliant and emphasises even more some of the differences between himself and Hillary. Plus you can't tell me that you'd pass up a chance to meet a presidential candidate from either party- has to be a tremendous experience.
Hey Tom, what's that old joke- something about with a woman president we would never go to war but would have really, really intense negotiations once a month.
- February 22, 2008 1:49 PM
- DaBraylon17 said...
bottom line is, a woman will never be president. that is not being sexist, it's just stating a fact. i just don't think a woman can handle the pressure of leading the most powerful (and hence the most hated) country in the world.
and Catie? why do you say "it doesn't surprise" you that i said that? you don't know me, so nothing i say should come as a shock or "non-shock" to you.
- February 22, 2008 2:18 PM
- beast in 'bama said...
feelin' blue:
Obama in a photo-op at College Station would be a shock - no, apocolyptic. In Austin, not so much. In the state of Texas, UT and Rice (where I went to school) are seen as the pinko-commie-liberals-who-must-die universities (See Williams, Ricky). That's not necessarily true, of course, but it is the reputation - particularly among those who went to A&M or Baylor.
What I'm really interested in is what's so "shady" about Mack Brown. Other than "crying" about not getting into the BCS a few years ago, what's he done to be thrown into that category?
- February 22, 2008 2:29 PM
- Jeff said...
DaBraylon17, that is exactly what "sexist" means. Not voting for a women just because she is indeed a women is being sexist. Just because you're ignorant to what a women can and can't handle doesn't mean it's not a sexist statement.
If I wasn't going to vote for obama before (which I was) I certainly would now (which I am) : > Nice form.
- February 22, 2008 3:15 PM
- DaBraylon17 said...
why should I listen to you jeff? you don't even know the difference between the word "woman" and "women."
- February 22, 2008 3:20 PM
- goat7ed said...
as this is a cfb site, the question that I'm waiting to have answered is, how will this affect my tailgating and game attending in the fall?
Once a candidate is a nominee, they and their family receive Secret Service protection (unless they are married to a former president, then they have it already). As the likely-GOP nominee's son attends a school where the entire student body walks onto the field before each home game, how's this affect him or the fans?
And if he does get SS protection, could they consider putting him on kick returns?
- February 22, 2008 3:44 PM
- Joshua said...
Next?! Next? Are you kidding me? Ignorance>spelling error any day of the week.
- February 22, 2008 4:36 PM
- Catie said...
I would much rather have Jeff have a "typo" in his comment, than a sexist statement. Typo's are so easily corrected.......ignorance about women is not.
- February 22, 2008 4:40 PM
- Jeff said...
Oh Noes, I said women instead of woman so my entire point is null and void.
Ignorance sure is bliss huh?
- February 22, 2008 5:03 PM
- TitleIX said...
dabraylon stays true to form and the other neaderthals follow suit.
get this:
women don't need dicks, we are married to them, or we can buy one with or without batteries.
as for tough?
try blowing up a 3-4cm balloon in alternating testicles each month, leave it like that for a week or so and then pop it (BANG) open once a month every month.
you'd be curled up in a small little pathetic BALL every month.
so keep your ignorant shit about women being PUSSIES (which you want and need) to your damned self.
AND db17 WTF "vite"
keep going cuz that is just the PRE-PUFF rant. Don't let me get my fuckdragon riled up.
PLEASE back to football and the suspension of LSU's QB.....
- February 22, 2008 5:40 PM
- DaBraylon17 said...
wow. some of you people are way to sensitive. i think my fellow michigan fans need some counseling. as for the osu fans, whoever you may be, i really don't care what you need, or think, or say, or do. so whatever.
- February 22, 2008 5:50 PM
- DaBraylon17 said...
titleix, i'm sure if you actually READ, you wuold have seen that i corrected my mistake, hence the "vote*"
and if you guys get worked up over my expressing an opinion, then i don't know what else to say. we all have opinions, so there is no need to get worked up over it.
- February 22, 2008 5:52 PM
- Chris in NC said...
TitleiX: "get this:
women don't need dicks, we are married to them, or we can buy one with or without batteries."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That was a grand slam! Outstanding! I would have put the whole answer in but decided to save space. That was great!
As a McCain person, I won't be voting for Hillary or Obama. However, America has been long since ready for either a woman or a black person. The problem util now has been that the ones running like Jesse Jackson or the Rev Al are so outlandishly bad and corrupt that no one would go near them.
So,TitleiX, what's with LSU's QB? Is it one of those situations that could make us glad that we didn't get Miles?
- February 22, 2008 7:46 PM
- Crock said...
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- February 22, 2008 8:10 PM
- Crock said...
T9 - you make women everywhere proud!
I knew you'd represent for us.
- February 22, 2008 8:11 PM
- Chris in NC said...
dabraylon17: "if obama will do what he says he will do (pull the troops out), then he gets my vote."
Well, then you're not going to like his answer depending on which audience he is in front of. In front of some crowd in CA, he said he would pull them out as his first act. In the SC dem debate he would not commit to having them out before 2013.
None of these candidates will give a straight answer to anything so believe them at your own peril.
- February 22, 2008 10:56 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
"women don't need dicks, we are married to them, or we can buy one with or without batteries."
Would that statement qualify as sexist or bigoted?
Just curious.
- February 23, 2008 12:19 AM
- TitleIX said...
truthiness whetstone.
truthiness. ;-)
as for Perrilloux at LSU, from Stewart Mandel at SI:
"Miles announced this week that, less than two weeks before the start of spring practice, the anticipated starting quarterback for the defending national champions has been suspended indefinitely "due to his failure to follow team rules." The New Orleans Times-Picayune reported that Perrilloux's recent transgressions include missing classes, workouts and at least one team meeting.
Amazingly, this marks the rising junior's third suspension in the past eight months, starting with his arrest in May 2007 for attempting to enter a casino with another person's I.D. (he was underage at the time). He was also left home from the Tigers' Nov. 3 game at Alabama following his involvement in a fight at a nightclub. Earlier in his career, Perrilloux was sought for questioning by federal and local officials investigating an alleged counterfeiting ring. (He was not charged.)"
Maybe Perrilloux needs to run some steps?????
- February 23, 2008 12:32 PM
- TitleIX said...
is anyone else watching the combines???
Jake Long is A BEAST
37 bench presses?????
Holy big ugly up front, Batman!!!
- February 23, 2008 12:55 PM
- Joshua said...
The look on the face of that Broncos coach is awesome just as Jake is finishing- he looks off camera like Holy Jebus.
And Desean Jackson is only 5'9? I totally thought he was a tall dude.
- February 23, 2008 3:55 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
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- February 23, 2008 7:53 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Beast in Bama,
I wasn't completely aware of Rice and UT being considered commie schools. Again, thank you for clearing things up for me. Joshua
That seems to make sense about College Station being conservative. I know that it has a huge ROTC program, so I imagine that there is some correlation between the two. Obama is a smart guy. He'll probably side with OSU, however, as he is from Illinois and the Illini fucking hate Michigan. They just do. But it's cool. He's much more of an everyman than Bush.
I just don't like Mack Brown. I just can't put my finger on it. It's like me with the Dutch.
...and the SEC. Go Tigers! Beat the Vols!
- February 23, 2008 7:58 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
That thing I said about Obama was directed at Joshua. I just put his name in the wrong paragraph.
Who else wants to smack Dick Vitale?
- February 23, 2008 9:12 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Ginger or MaryAnn?
- February 25, 2008 7:39 AM
- TitleIX said...
didn't we have that discussion already whet?
TP was at the tOSU b-ball game yesterday.
I gotta say, I'm getting a little tired of this kid....
- February 25, 2008 8:41 AM
- Vadatripp said...
"as for tough?
try blowing up a 3-4cm balloon in alternating testicles each month, leave it like that for a week or so and then pop it (BANG) open once a month every month.
you'd be curled up in a small little pathetic BALL every month."
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.
- February 25, 2008 8:51 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
"didn't we have that discussion already whet?"
Yes. Yes we did, but it was so quiet around here my ears were beginning to hurt. I was desperate to prime the pump.
And here we are...
- February 25, 2008 8:59 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I would love for him to come, but it's probably not going to happen (that's what she said). Unfortunately, Russell Shepard enjoyed his visit to LSU, but there is more recruiting that remains and he has yet to visit Michigan. Hopefully a UM visit can blow him away.
That sucks that Juno barely won anything. I was hoping for Juno to win Best Picture to continue the year of the upset. I'm not supposed to enjoy the upsets though (App St, Pats Super Bowl), so no surprise there.
- February 25, 2008 9:36 AM
- Catie said...
Mary Ann (Ginger in Private)
How about Gilligan, the Skipper, The Professor or Mr. Howell?
My choice, the professor
- February 25, 2008 9:45 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
For the brains or the contrast to the other two?
- February 25, 2008 10:00 AM
- Catie said...
Whets, I am assuming you are asking about my choice of the professor.
That would be more for the brains. Intelligent Discourse is very sexy!
- February 25, 2008 10:23 AM
- Catie said...
PS, Does anyone know how to do
Optimization using Linear programming?
Specifically, how to set up problems.
I am trying to catch up on my homework since my brother's death, it is spring break and NO ONE is available to help me. So.....if you have any clues.....I can use a clue!
Email please at nursekatie99 at yahoo dot com
(Sorry, but I am desperate enough to post this inappropriately here....;o)
- February 25, 2008 10:25 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
The Professor will appear.
- February 25, 2008 10:33 AM
- Catie said...
Really? I wish I had your confidence! Will that be in this lifetime or the next? ;o)
- February 25, 2008 11:09 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
Pose the problem and he will solve.
- February 25, 2008 11:25 AM
- Catie said...
You mean my optimization problem? HERE???
- February 25, 2008 11:34 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
No. The Professor will find you.
You gave your email address. Geez, Louise, he's a professor after all. Give him some credit.
- February 25, 2008 11:40 AM
- Catie said...
Right. Yeah. Sure. Like I said, In this life time or the next? LOL, if you only knew.....oye.
- February 25, 2008 11:43 AM
- zen wizard said...
Let me get this straight: Phil Gramm is too goofy looking to be president...and this guy ISN'T??
- February 25, 2008 11:58 AM
- john said...
How do I get in contact with Benny or Yost. My high school football staff and I will be visiting A2 from CA in early April to watch Spring and chalk with the coaches. I need an experienced persons visitor guide for the places to hang out.
- February 25, 2008 12:29 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Try Columbus.
- February 25, 2008 12:34 PM
- Joshua said...
I can't believe you guys are even entertaining various answers to this question. The only correct and extremely obvious answer to the Maryann vs. Ginger question is: Kate Beckinsale.
- February 25, 2008 12:37 PM
- Catie said...
John, don't listen to Whets, he is a buckeye.
The email for Yost and Benny is in code to the left
it is something at Gmail dot com
I think it is Michiganzone at Gmail dot com
You can email me, I can send you in the mail a local guide to get you around here. my email is posted a few comments up. Whatever you prefer. Good luck, it should be awesome, coach Rod seems really open and willing to share!
- February 25, 2008 1:13 PM
- Joshua said...
Hey John.
Yost can be reached through the email on the front page, should be in the left column below the block M.
There are also several regulars around who currently live in A2 who might be able to give you some good advice, as I believe Yost lives in CA (or did I read Utah somewhere now?).
- February 25, 2008 1:33 PM
- Joshua said...
Doh! Beaten to the punch.
- February 25, 2008 1:36 PM
- Catie said...
Actually, I think he lives in Colorado. That Utah thing was the guy that emailed Yost that lives in Utah.
- February 25, 2008 1:41 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
El Jeffe lives in Colorado? Man oh man. Every time he wears his Michigan gear in public he will be treated to a rehash of "the catch."
- February 25, 2008 1:47 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
"John, don't listen to Whets, he is a buckeye."
*Sigh* Outed again.
- February 25, 2008 1:49 PM
- Mike said...
I'm a mathematician, I've sent you an email.
Oh, and as for the picture for the thread, each and every one of you would love to be able to throw up the Heisman pose with the actual trophy- Obama is just doing what any red-blooded American football fan would do.
- February 25, 2008 3:04 PM
- Catie said...
Mike......I have not gotten an email!! I was just about to go to Craigslist and seek out a math tutor......
just to be sure
nursekatie99 at yahoo dot com
Don't forget the 99 :o) (my age...ha!!)
- February 25, 2008 3:09 PM
- Mike said...
check now....sent it a couple minutes ago, might have taken a while to get through the firewall here at work.
- February 25, 2008 3:13 PM
- Corey said...
I live in Colorado and wear my Michigan stuff everywhere along with Red Wings.
I moved here right after that season, and boy I never thought I'd hear the end of "the Catch." Then Avs/Wings in 1996 turned ugly and it was just about as bad as living in Buckeye territory, which is where I moved in 2003. Living in OHIO was much worse.
I moved back to Colorado and there is nothing said anymore to me on either the Michigan or Red Wing paraphernalia.
Catie ... I can help, after all I am sure it isn't rocket science.
- February 25, 2008 3:41 PM
- Joshua said...
Catie is studying to be an aeronautical engineer, so technically, it is rocket science.
- February 25, 2008 3:46 PM
- Catie said...
You guys rock! Now, if only I can get tutoring by email we will be ok!
Joshua!!!! ROFL.....that would be scary if that were true!
- February 25, 2008 3:52 PM
- Joshua said...
Damn! I was banking on the new guy not knowing I' m completely full of shit 98% of the time.
Corey, for future reference, sarcasm is just one more free service I offer.
- February 25, 2008 4:35 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
I second Corey's assessment of Colorado. Down south, in Colorado Springs that is, the folks are too brainwashed by James Dobson and Ted Haggard to even care about sports.
Everywhere else, Coloradoans are actually ex-Californians, and unless their team is winning (which the Buffs and the Avholes don't do much anymore), the Californicators really aren't into the game.
The only grief I get is like when someone in scarlet and grey yelled "Fuck Michigan" at me (in the party store next to the Albertson's at the corner of Dublin and Austin Bluffs) on Saturday.
- February 25, 2008 4:51 PM
- Tom C said...
Whets asked "Ginger or MaryAnn?'
DUH! Both!
- February 25, 2008 7:59 PM
- Tom C said...
Was I the only one that caught that story about Pryor taunting the fans at his playoff game?
I think I like him as a buckeye.
- February 25, 2008 8:02 PM
- Joshua said...
I saw that. The pic of the kid dressed like Tressel was pretty hilarious, and by all accounts is was back and forth- you've gotta remember the kid's only 18. That having been said, I'm on record saying I'd prefer to land Shepard if possible. He's smaller, but he has better vision, is a better passer from what I've seen, will enroll in January and is tremendously well spoken when compared with Pryor. More of what I envision from a Wolverine qb.
- February 25, 2008 8:22 PM
- Corey said...
Joshua -
Just so you know I am not a new timer, I just haven't had the time to commit to commenting anymore, plus who needs to hear from whets or srudof anymore than we already do!
My username use to be mgoblue94 with avatar of an ohio state plate with "BCKSTCH", but I can't get that one to work anymore.
FYI ... I am a rocket scientist (technically engineer)
- February 26, 2008 1:35 AM
- Joshua said...
Duly noted Corey. No disrespect meant, just providing my usual levity.
- February 26, 2008 2:14 AM
- TitleIX said...
joshua definitely has the cred to help catie, particularly if he can levitate.....
- February 26, 2008 9:10 AM


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Tuesday, October 17, 2006
When 17-10 is Better Than 28-6
Let's take two games against the same opponent: Michigan vs. Penn State and Ohio State vs. Penn State.
A few weeks ago tOSU hosted Penn State. The game was rather close. In fact, the Bucks were losing 3-0 at the half and it was still only 14-6 with under three minutes left in the game. But the final score became very deceiving after horrible PSU QB Anthony Morelli threw two interceptions that were returned for touchdowns in the last couple of minutes.
All in all, that was probably tOSU's worst game of the year - Troy Smith wasn't sharp, Ted Ginn was a non-factor, and the defense allowed a big running game to Tony Hunt. This was hardly a dominating performance, at home, against a middle of the pack team.
Meanwhile, this past weekend in Happy Valley, the Wolverines dominated the Nittany Lions, particularly on defense. They knocked out - literally - two Penn State quarterbacks, had seven sacks, and held Tony Hunt to 33 rushing yards on 13 carries. It was a complete victory in every facet except one: the scoreboard.
The scoreboard shows that Michigan's victory over PSU was much closer than Ohio State's victory over the same team. But was it really? Not to just about anybody who saw the two games - including the Penn State players. Most would say Michigan's performance was stronger.
Now, before you bombard us with nasty comments Buck fans, relax.
This doesn't mean Michigan should be number one over tOSU nor does it mean the Wolverines will win the big matchup on November 18. Heck, we still have tOSU #1 in our Blogpoll. But according to most pollsters who might not have seen both games - and most of them probably didn't - the score in the tOSU game would look more impressive. And nothing could be further from the truth.
And that's one more reason I hate polls to determine who plays for a championship.
39 comments:
Voting for the MNC is the same as a beauty contest. I like her singing she twirled her baton better than the other girl. Championships based on who looked better scored the most points on Leper Colony Tech id rediculous we need a playoff for D1 NOW!!!!
- October 17, 2006 1:36 AM
Good post. I'll be waiting for your assessment of Michigan vs MSU / Ohio State vs MSU.
I'll be waiting a while...
- October 17, 2006 1:42 AM
- Yost said...
What is there to wait for?
Against MSU, Michigan was up 17-0 at the HALF, 24-0 in the 3rd against MSU and 31-7 in the 4th before MSU got a late TD.
- October 17, 2006 1:51 AM
- October 17, 2006 2:09 AM
- Sports on a Schtick said...
It's worth noting that the OSU-PSU game was played under terrible weather conditions, which halted the Buckeye offense yet moved Joe Paterno's bowel.
- October 17, 2006 2:46 AM
- Yost said...
LOL, SoaS!
- October 17, 2006 2:50 AM
I'm not going to make any nasty comments, Benny. This business of comparing games vs. common opponents is virtually useless - it requires the MOST subjective of premises. It's too bad that it's pretty much all we have. That said, and since you started it, I'll say that from an OSU perspective, our game vs. PSU was never really in doubt either, it just took a little longer for that to work itself out (and, as SOAS mentioned, there was weather - I wouldn't agree with those who've called it a "monsoon", but the conditions were definitely adverse).
It could also be said that we more thoroughly dominated the Spartans than you did, on both offense and defense. One might say that we're talking about ineffable degrees of domination, but, then again, one could say the same about each of our games vs. PSU.
We've blown out Iowa at Iowa, and now you're going to blow them out at the Big House, and we'll talk some more about who blew them out better...I kind of feel like the line for Nov. 18 ought to be OSU by one.
- October 17, 2006 3:24 AM
Polls are a bad way to judge teams, like you said. But you just used shitty logic yourself by trying to judge one win over the other. The conditions were terrible for OSU-PSU, but Michigan was playing in Happy Valley. How can anyone possibly judge that correctly.
It doesn't matter how well or poorly OSU or Michigan played against any teams they both went up against. All that matters is how well they play on Nov. 18th.
OSU and Michigan are about as even as you can get. The only way to figure it out is to play
- October 17, 2006 3:26 AM
I didn't see your post before I posted. I swear
- October 17, 2006 3:27 AM
- Dezzi13 said...
I think OSU fans and Michigan fans alike should just keep to their own superstitions and pray that both teams collide on November 18th undefeated...
No comparisons needed because then it can be settled on the field!
I think I will probably sleep about 5 total hours the week before that game if the dream scenario comes true.
- October 17, 2006 6:53 AM
Meaningless post. Sportswriters know the scores and how each team won or lost. Whining about whose win is better is meaningless. Bottom line, The Ohio State University is #1. I know it, you know it, and your momma knows it. And all your cum-guzzling, newport smoking michigan wenches knows it.
- October 17, 2006 8:31 AM
Please don't tell me you were in the OSU library while you were posting this.
- October 17, 2006 9:39 AM
Let's see here;
Anthony Morelli: 11/18, 133 yds, 0 TDs, 0 ints, QB rating = 123.18
Chad Henne: 15/30, 196 yds, 1 TD, 0 ints, QB rating = 115.88
If you describe Anthony Morelli as "horrible" what adjective do you use to describe Chad Henne, who is arguably worse?
- October 17, 2006 10:17 AM
Deceptive score because they had the INT returns yes, but Crable (was it him? hard to see from the top row of Mt. Everest), dropped a good chance at a pick six.
So it could be argued that Ohio State did a better job in their game because they capitalized on turnover opportunities, although obviously the throws were different, Crable's could have been harder to catch.
In the end, I don't necessarily think Michigan dominated PSU more than Ohio State did, but the argument is that Ohio State didn't beat them 3 times as much as we did.
- October 17, 2006 10:32 AM
Damn. And I was hoping the Bucks wouldn't actually have to play Michigan, but we could be declared the winner because of the respective scores against Penn State.
Damn you and your logic man.
- October 17, 2006 10:32 AM
yeh dont change it. its funnier that way.
- October 17, 2006 11:21 AM
- Benny Friedman said...
mhentz, I'd call Henne a winner. I think the main reason Michigan's score doesn't look as good as tOSU's against PSU was that tOSU didn't knock Morelli out. If he'd stayed in the game, I'm sure there would have been a couple of Pick Sixes for the Wolverines too.
- October 17, 2006 11:21 AM
- Benny Friedman said...
Thanks Schiano for Pres, it's been fixed. I'll blame my editor for that one. And thanks for reading through the whole post, as opposed to so many tOSU fans who've taken this as some sort of harangue against their perfect team. It wasn't - it was an attempt to prove a point about the weakness of polls.
- October 17, 2006 11:25 AM
Anonymous said...
Sportswriters know the scores and how each team won or lost.
Even if that is the case (which I doubt), their votes don't count towards the BCS poll. Jim Tressel's vote does count though. PS: He still votes Texas #1.
- October 17, 2006 11:49 AM
From a source who attended both games in person, I would argue that it is difficult to compare both teams matchup against Penn State. As we all know, OSU has a young defense which allowed Hunt to gain more yards on the ground. OSU also made numerous mistakes on offense which the weather may have caused. Gonzalez dropped 3 passes, one of which had the possibility for 6. Michigan on the other hand was faced with the difficulty of playing on the road. 110,000 will cause any team to play sub-par. Also, Morelli wasn't as sharp as I expected and the Penn State defense managed to keep the game within two scores.
After watching both teams play, and with an unbiased view, I would say Michigan is slightly the better team. Michigan's defense is much better than OSU's and I feel that if Hunt can break through OSU's D, Hart can possibly have a carrer day. Only time will tell.
- October 17, 2006 12:04 PM
OSU played PSU in a cold driving rain with 30 mph winds. Give PSU a lot of credit because their D played well. Do you really think that LLoyd and crew can win in Columbus?
- October 17, 2006 12:05 PM
- The King said...
Anonymous 12:26 said: The Ohio State University is #1. I know it, you know it, and your momma knows it.
You know who doesn't know it, nimrod? The 5 out of 6 BCS computers that have USC ranked #1 (and the same 5 that have UM ranked #2).
- October 17, 2006 12:40 PM
Nimrod? What a geek bringing up computers.(Must have been in the Band) Let's argue about rankings and wins, IT DOESN'T MATTER, it's going down on Nov.18, and all you nimrods and your stats will go down the drain.(along with your title hopes). You can disect it anyway you want, Hart and Henne are average at best. The Ohio State University offense is too good and too fast. Michigan's true side will show soon, you know the 7-5 side. Blog away inbreds!
- October 17, 2006 2:38 PM
First of all, margin of victory has been eliminated from the computer polls...This means if OSU beats every opponent 58-7, and USC beats every one of their opponents 28-27, USC would be above OSU provided their opponents had won ONE SINGLE GAME more than OSU's...So the computers have some issues...
Also, regarding the main point of the article, INTs returned for TDs are INTs returned for TDs, regardless of when they occur. Sometimes, like ND-PSU and UM-ND, a team gets these early, then rolls on as the losing team becomes desparate and throws all the time. This makes the game appear more lopsided than it really is, just as the OSU-PSU score looked more lopsided than it was too...Also, it's rare that this occurs, the fact it happened in ONE game for OSU, and OSU hammered every other opponent, makes it the exception, not the rule...
- October 17, 2006 2:42 PM
Anon 9:05,
Carr has won in Columbus. Twice. Granted, maybe not against Tre$$el, but we were one bad pass away from beating your 2002 MNC team. Don't try to tell me you weren't crapping your pants on the last UM drive of the game. Better clean those undies before November.
- October 17, 2006 3:21 PM
Whoa! Did surrounded in Columbus get ahold of your blog? That article sounded straight from his usual Sunday ramblings...
I'm an OSU fan but love this blog. I've come to expect more than this sort of post. Its like 2 eight year olds fighting about who's dad can beat up the other's dad.
Silly arguement...just be glad these 2 can settle it on the field. In the meantime, c'mon yost...try again.
- October 17, 2006 3:49 PM
All of this will be settled on the field. I'm more worried about Iowa this weekend than where Michigan is (or should be) in the polls.
And if I were an Ohio State fan, win or lose on November 18, I would be more concerned about whether my renter's insurance covers couchburning. Probably not, unless you can show that the fire was "inadvertantly set" inside the house (e.g., someone's buckstash caught fire).
- October 17, 2006 3:53 PM
- Yost said...
Settle down, Buck fans. Benny wasn't blasting OSU one bit here. He was simply saying scores can be misleading and don't necessarily reflect what happened on the field.
Breathe. Breathe.
- October 17, 2006 4:18 PM
Alright Mich or Buck fans: Can anybody find that picture they showed during the TOSU/Sparty game of Stanton and Smith with their arms around each other, with Stanton looking like the biggest running faggot east of the Mississipi?
If so please provide a link or send it to Yost, as it would make for a terrific caption contest!
- October 17, 2006 5:11 PM
Again, I'll just point out the folly of this whole common opponents business - AND the stretches of logic one has to make for the comparison to have any, however specious, meaning. Two PSU players (Shaw and Hunt in the linked article) say things like "probably", and "I think", and this leads Benny to cite "the Penn State players" as a group that thinks Michigan's better. Was Michigan better against PSU than Ohio State was? I think probably, yes, scoreboards notwithstanding. I didn't get to watch Michigan-MSU, but just judging by the stats and the scores, and having watched OSU-MSU twice now, it would seem that we were better against them than the Wolverines were. Also, we knocked Stanton out of our game - something you failed to do, just as we failed to knock Morelli out of our game vs. PSU (although, if you could have seen the look in his eyes after the first INT for a TD, he wasn't all there).
Each of these common opponent games, including yours vs. Iowa, ours vs. Minnesota, and yours and ours vs. Indiana, can really only be viewed by themselves - they take place at different points in the season, there are specific and relevant personnel matchups that affect each game that might or might not affect OSU-UM (though I'm not obsessive enough to delve into what they might be, I know they exist), there are injuries to be taken into account (but how is that to be quantified?), etc., etc...on to infinity.
Do polls suck? Of course, but probably not as bad as this common opponents method. But, Benny, if you're going to go down this road, please don't just cherry-pick the games that support your premise.
- October 17, 2006 5:14 PM
Why do OSU fans blog here? It seems crazy to me.
I agree with the blogger that it sounds like kids arguing over who's dad is stronger. Let's just agree to disagree, quit referring to other's mothers, girlfiend's kids, etc. as nasty things such as cum-guzzlers (sick-o) and look forward to the greatest game ever to be seen on nov. 18.
Shame on you all, potty mouths.
- October 17, 2006 5:51 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
the essence of your post- that most pollsters let very subjective information color their opinions- is an excellent one. given the huge amount of money associated w/ the MNC, it's a poor way of making the decision.
who's to say tosu or michigan are really the best? maybe rutgers/wvu/louisville would beat both of them? i don't think so, but that's MY subjective opinion. however, i'm not sure head to head game comparisons really do much better.
for example, i did think tosu handled moosu very easily. but that could be because of a unlimited number of factors- maybe tosu is better than michigan, maybe moosu attaches more importance to the michigan game than it does tosu and played harder, or maybe after having already lost 3 games in a row, they gave up on the fourth.
it also doesn't consider the effects of different match ups. a running offense and strangling defense will beat one team very differently than a team w/ a spread offense and a "bend don't break" D. you'll get different scores, a different kind of "domination", and no real indication of how the two winning teams would do against each other.
finally, i enjoyed your choice of tosu & michigan vs psu as an example - if for no other reason than the aggravation factor you created amongst tosu nation! no group of fans has a bigger AND more fragile self persona than the buckeye nation.
look at the responses to this post: you have them listed as your #1 pick in your poll, but at the slightest suggestion that someone isn't frightened how good they are, a big chunk of them go to pieces. sometimes it seems they're trying to convince themselves as much as anyone else.
look at the way some of them throw a tantrum when someone (mainly me) pulls out any stat that indicates anything less than abject awe for tosu. it's not enough say you think they're good but not overwelming. anything short of reinforcing their own self view of selfimportance is taken as an affront.
it's particularly funny considering how much time tosu fans spend patting themselves on the back over the stats they like. T Smith's passing efficiecy? see how many times that "stat" gets mentioned by tosu fans. or Pittman's YPC? or their take away ratio? they drool over the numbers they like to hear, don't they?
and for the record, "scores", amazingly, are just another stat- the one that counts the most, but just a stat. 17-16 is no more or less of a win than 77-16. after the "W" is registered, the score, like all another numbers, are just an interesting way of looking at a game and comparing the concrete to the subjective.
- October 17, 2006 6:12 PM
Is this bizarro universe today? Surrounded....the biggest stat quoter in the history of this board comes on to state that stats are not all that important?
All the guy does is compare OSU stats to UM stats every week to stat why UM is better.
Like the rest of the UM fans in Columbus...attention whoring per usual.
- October 17, 2006 6:43 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
you could hurt a guy's feelings talking like that.
and i didn't say stats were or weren't important. only that you can't count some because you like them and then totally discount the use of others you don't like. nothing bizarro about that.
and what's w/ the "attnention seeking whore" routine? is everyone on the planet supposed to root for the school located geographically closest?
i could see if you were some hick who grew up in licking county and never left the farm that it might appear odd that anyone would ever be anything but a tosu fan, but not everyone in columbus who isn't a tosu fan is looking for attention.
some people actually go to school other places. is the marshall fan who lives around the corner or the UK grad & b-ball fan who lives down the street from me supposed to stop being a fan of their alma maters because they took a job w/ the limited or bankone?
and are tosu fans who live somewhere out side Franklin County just looking for attention when they stay buckeye fans??? all the bankone/tosu fans having their jobs moved to NY are supposed to stop being buckeyes when they get to new york?
the world is a little wider than that.
- October 17, 2006 7:15 PM
Well done, SiC.
- October 17, 2006 10:29 PM
Buckeye fan here!
I've tried to figure out which team is better and I can't.
Maybe we can convince the NCAA that 11/18 is just a scrimmage and move it to 1/8/2007!
I'm in C'Bus and seem to bump into a large number of Michigan fans. They all have the same tune. "The Buckeyes are gonna get smashed in Columbus". "It's gonna be so nice in the desert!"
I like Surrounded's analysis of Buckeye fans as being especially twitchy. Can you understand what 25 years of domination does to your childhood development? Cooper teams? Four wins in 20+ years in Ann Arbor?
It's all good.
- October 17, 2006 11:44 PM
Maybe we should start comparing Lloyd Carr's record vs. Jim Tressel, or maybe we should start talking about how Michigan will never learn how to stop Troy Smith...
- October 18, 2006 6:39 PM
and after that we can compare tre$$els record against barry alvarez, and what a genius he must be @ 3-1 over tre$$el, and how tosu can never stop 'Sconsin's tailback, no matter who he is?
- October 18, 2006 6:55 PM
Waiting to see why OSU pounding MSU on the road (MSU scoring against 2nd and 3rd teamers) was not as good of a victory as UM beating MSU in AA.....
All in all... this site is awesome and hilarious in a good way
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Good News @ 6, 6 p.m. the fourth Sunday of each month at Calvary Episcopal Church, 2840 Hendersonville Road, Fletcher. Welcoming all ages to a different service of worship. Info: 684-6266.
Grief Share grief recovery group, 2-3:30 p.m. the second and fourth Tuesday through Aug. 27 at Hendersonville First United Methodist Church, at Sixth Avenue and Church Street. Info: 693-3410; 693-1550; 693-4275.
Intercessory Time of Prayer, 5:15 p.m. the second Tuesday and 12:15 p.m. the fourth Tuesday at Grace Lutheran Church, 1245 6th Ave. W., Hendersonville. Info: 693-4890.
LIFT: Living in Faith Together group, 10:45 a.m.-noon the first and third Tuesday of the month at Mud Creek Baptist Church, 403 Rutledge Drive. For those living with a chronic illness or condition. Info: 692-1262 ext.135.
Taize Worship, 6 p.m. the second Sunday of each month at Calvary Episcopal Church, 2840 Hendersonville Road, Fletcher. A quiet and reflective worship. Info: 684-6266.
MemoryCaregivers Network meeting for caregivers (Fletcher Group), 1-3 p.m. the first Tuesday at Fletcher Seventh Day Adventist Church, 1141 Howard Gap Road, Fletcher. Info: 645-9189 or 230-4143.
Mothers of Preschoolers (MOPS), 9:15 a.m.-11:15 a.m. the second and fourth Wednesdays through May at Mud Creek Baptist Church, 403 Rutledge Drive, Hendersonville. Info: 692-1262.
Free children's ministry, 1-5 p.m. the first and third Thursdays of each month at Cummings Memorial United Methodist Church, Banner Farm Road, Horseshoe. Free children's clothes for up to 6 years old, along with diapers, supplies and equipment at the BEAR closet. Info: 891-9413 or 891-1557.
My Sister's Closet is open 9 a.m.-noon Mondays at First Methodist Church, 204 6th Ave. W. Clothing of different styles for work. Info: 693-4275.
Bread ministry — free bread from 3-4 p.m. Mondays at Balfour United Methodist Church, Highway 25 North, across from Hunter Chevrolet. Info: 692-5501.
Ministry for Separated and Divorced Catholics support group, 5-6:30 p.m. every Sunday at Immaculate Conception Church, at 7th Avenue and Church Street, in Meeting Room 1, lower level of the church. Info: 329-4026 or 702-1249.
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This flung open a door to criticism:
"It is dangerous and irresponsible to leave even the impression the United States would needlessly and publicly provoke a nuclear power," Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.) said in a statement.Nothing from Hillary yet.
New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, in a telephone interview, said that Obama's threat, if acted upon, could inflame the entire Muslim world. "My international experience tells me that we should address this issue with tough diplomacy first with Musharraf and then leave the military option as a last resort," he said.
Former senator John Edwards (N.C.) said in a statement that he would first apply "maximum diplomatic and economic pressure on states like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia" to do their utmost to combat the spread of terrorism. He also challenged both Obama and Clinton to block a proposed U.S. arms deal with Saudi Arabia.
Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.), chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, called Obama's threat misguided. "The way to deal with it is not to announce it, but to do it," Biden said at the National Press Club. "The last thing you want to do is telegraph to the folks in Pakistan that we are about to violate their sovereignty."
So has Obama convinced you he's a tough guy -- a smarter tough guy?