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Thursday, November 30, 2006
Buckeye Hospitality
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WAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! I went into a huge crowd of opposing fans, started singing my fight song and.......whimper, whimper...........they were sOOOOOOOOOOOOOO horrible!! They BOO'd me!!! How could they do that!! they're such meanies!! what a bunch of Jerk-faces!!
- November 30, 2006 12:07 AM
- Yost said...
Booing, huh? No, I wasn't talking about the booing. That's not only expected but part of a great rivalry. Do you really think we'd post booing? I'm simply pointing out the lack of class with that "other" cheer. I notice how you conveniently left out what they were actually saying.
They don't drown them out with "Go Bucks," no it's always anti-Michigan...and "Fuck Michigan" at that. Classy.
PS And that crowd is the one by the GameDay set.
- November 30, 2006 12:17 AM
why do people attack whats written here without leaving their name? if they don't believe in what their posting enough to put their name down next to it, then they have no credibility whatsoever.
- November 30, 2006 12:33 AM
- Yost said...
You might see a ban soon on Anonymous postings, DW. We're thinking about it for just such a reason and to weed out some things.
- November 30, 2006 12:39 AM
- srudoff said...
cause posting your initials is WAAAAAY more personal huh :)
i'm ALL for the ban on anonymous posting though as well as people coming on, clicking 'other' and typing fake names or just initials.
i'm not sure a bunch of guys chanting fuck michigan is front page worthy though yost. honestly from the horror stories you and others have touted here, i'm surprised a few drunk guys didn't kick the shit out of the guys stupid enough to sing victors surrounded by 10,000 enemies.
- November 30, 2006 12:49 AM
They can't even pronounce the state correctly. It should be FUCK MICH-i-gan, not FUCK mich-i-GAN.
- November 30, 2006 1:34 AM
- Andy said...
Sadly - I have learned to accept the fact that "fuck michigan" is a locally accepted part of the unique culture and language that is THE Ohio State University. I just translate it into "Hello" or "Welcome to Columbus"...
- November 30, 2006 3:39 AM
srudoff, are you condoning such behavior and that they SHOULD'VE had their asses kicked?
That's the kind of thug-life mentality which seems to permeate that fanbase: That anyone with the audacity -- the unmitigated gall! -- to dare sing their fight song, and support their team who they've paid hundreds of dollars to see, should be assaulted.
If you're saying you're just surprised nobody did it, then, uh, ignore this post entirely.
- November 30, 2006 8:16 AM
- PeckHorn78 said...
It took cojones grande to sing The Victors in the middle of an enormous Buckeye crowd. If the worst of the response is "F Michigan" then I don't see it as a huge problem. I honestly thought the You Tube video was going to show someone getting beaten up.
It is just the nature of a significant number of tOSU fans to use the "F Michigan" phrase. Just like it is unique that the tOSU Marching Band would sing "we don't give a damn about the whole state of Michigan" at the TEXAS game. It shows an obsession with UM, most likely stemming from the frustration of the Cooper 2-10-1 era.
- November 30, 2006 9:14 AM
I think everyone is missing the point -- Maybe next halloween i can dress up as Conan the Buckstacharian.
- November 30, 2006 9:49 AM
- srudoff said...
How about some reading comprehension please. I said that, BASED ON THE HORROR STORIES touted by posters here about OSU fans, that I was surprised that they didn't kick his ass. Meaning that if all those stories were true or even half true, those guys would be dead by now. I was commenting on all of the claims of how violent OSU fans can get, yet here are a bunch of idiots singing their fight song in a crowd of 10,000 fans of their main rival and the only "payback" you see if people yelling Fuck Michigan.
- November 30, 2006 10:30 AM
- srudoff said...
And yes, IMO anyone singing their fight song among 10,000 rivals can be called idiots. It's like wearing a Michael Richards T-Shirt to Freaknik in Atlanta - you just don't do it.
- November 30, 2006 10:37 AM
Personally I think this video is evidence of society crumbling. It gives a great insight into the diverse socio-economic standards we have let befall our midwestern states. Errr I mean Fuck Michigan and this video was hilarious, especially the Ultimate Warrior guy!!!
- November 30, 2006 11:02 AM
srudoff, I gave you credit for that explanation already. Please read all the way through my posts before you tell me how to understand your own.
This argument is stupid.
- November 30, 2006 11:32 AM
- The King said...
That's not Conan the Barbarian. I know we can only see him from behind, but I know the Ultimate Warrior when I see him, no matter what angle it's from.
- November 30, 2006 12:54 PM
Oh, for crying out loud.
We get it, guys. You're upset that UM lost. What's next? "M-Zone exclusive!! A man wearing an OSU shirt is seen driving 60 in a 55 zone!!"
Sheesh. Let it go already. For someone who claims OSU is only anti-Michigan, you guys are sure spending a lot of time being anti-OSU. Pot, meet kettle.
At any rate, it's not anti-Michigan, no matter how you try to spin it. Typical Michigan fans, thinking the world revolves around them even when they lose.
Hatred for Michigan doesn't fill up the Horseshoe when OSU plays Iowa, or Wisconsin, or Penn St., etc.
You'll note that lots of Buckeye blogs have reported at the "F-OSU" chants from UM fans, the middle fingers, the thrown objects. Even the UM band drove its bus through OSU's campus with middle fingers flying and shouts and profane jeers screaming out the windows.
Just let it go.
- November 30, 2006 12:57 PM
- Yost said...
Thanks for the laugh, Buckfan. Yeah, hatred for Michigan never shows up...like when OSU fans where "Fuck Michigan" shirts to their bowl game.
And if you notice, not ONE person here is bitching about the game, rather their treatment at the game.
Yeah, I know, I know. But it's just yelling "Fuck Michigan." Just like it was only "a couple fires for such a big city" afterwards. Hear no evil, see no evil, right?
Hey, in a city of 4 million, you here about all the fires/arrests in LA after the USC/ND game? Oh, wait, there were none.
- November 30, 2006 1:19 PM
- Yost said...
As for the MMB bus driving through campus, we've produced a lot of pics/videos of the jackasses in Columbus (and anybody who screams "Fuck Michigan" is a jackass, if you don't scream it, you're not included) so with over a hundred thousand Buck fans that day, surely SOMEBODY shot some video of the MMB bus driving through the streets of Columbus with signs and shouting "Fuck OSU." I mean, I'd think that would have been up on YouTube 10 days ago. So, please share the video with us. I'll post it.
- November 30, 2006 1:22 PM
>"Yeah, hatred for Michigan never shows up..."
Yost - Dude, I never said "hatred for Michigan never showed up," nor did I claim there weren't any students yelling "F-Michigan."
All I commented on was your infatuation/obsession with beating this dead horse into the ground. You're acting the same way you accuse Buckeye fans of acting. When you try to turn Columbus into some sort of Bagdhad, just because you're mad that Michigan lost, well, there's nothing "pro-Michigan" about that, is there? Sounds like it's all about "anti-OSU."
>"not ONE person here is bitching about the game, rather their treatment at the game"
The only reason you're not bitching about the game is because you CAN'T. The only thing you CAN complain about is the treatment, which is no different than what OSU fans get when they go to the Big House. At least OSU's prez doesn't have to tell OSU students to stay off the golf course.
I _know_ that had UM won, you wouldn't be on this anti-OSU crusade, finding anything at all to say.
Oh, and LOL at your challenge. "If you can't find it on YouTube, then it didn't happen." Might as well put your fingers in your ears and say "LALAALAALA CAN'T HEAR YOU." Or are you calling all those buckeye bloggers liars? This guy wrote about it:
...so, do you deny that it happened? Do you REALLY think you can take the igh road on rivalry behavior?
- November 30, 2006 1:49 PM
"I _know_ that had UM won, you wouldn't be on this anti-OSU crusade, finding anything at all to say."
Bullshit. I'd probably be on even more of one. I'm all about kicking sand in OSU's face when they're down. That's what makes this rivalry great!
- November 30, 2006 1:58 PM
- Yost said...
If you think I wouldn't be putting this up had we won, you're wrong. These are two separate things -- football and fan treatment. To be honest, if we'd won, I'd probably be putting more up so I wouldn't have to listen to OSU fans bitch and complain ON A MICHIGAN SITE that we're only pointing out the bullshit behavior b/c we lost.
As for the band, yes, I find it very hard to believe that band members on a school-sponsored trip on a university bus were holding up a "Fuck OSU" sign. And if I saw that in A2 from OSU band members, I'd have taken a picture. Thus, I'm not saying it didn't happen, but with THOUSANDS of OSU fans around, I'd think there would be a picture. So, instead of trying to change minds with the typical "but it happens in A2, too" shit we hear EVERY TIME, go put a couple posts up on OSU sites and see if you can find a picture of "the Michigan Marching Band Flipping off OSU Fans and Flying a Fuck OSU Sign on their bus."
I'd love to eat a little crow and am happy to do it. I'll post it on this MICHIGAN SITE (whereas I don't see a lot of those "Buckeye bloggers" putting up all the "Fuck Michigan" stuff on there sites. Only bitching that, "It happens there, too.")
As for taking the high road, do incidents happen in A2 and other schools? Of course they do. But for a CULTURE of boorish behavior, OSU is #1 there as well, no matter what happened on the field.
- November 30, 2006 2:00 PM
Yost -
Ah, yes. UM always takes the high road. They never holler f-OSU to fans (I've heard it plenty), they never chant, "F-OSU!!" in large groups (which I saw them do in 2003), they never get drunk or rowdy, and they never wear shirts with anti-OSU slogans on them.
BTW: Note how the fans here know that it's all in good fun. You didn't see the OSU girl in that photo running to her blog writing and complaining about how the boorish culture of UM fans came down to C-bus and hurt her feelings. No, it's all in good fun. Just like your video. It's OKAY to deliberately taunt a large group of OSU fans, but it's not okay for those fans to taunt you back? Pathetic logic. Everyone was having a good time.
As for the "culture" of boorish behavior, that's a myth that's entirely perpetuated by SOME, (not even all!), Michigan fans. Even many Michigan bloggers deny the myth. "Never saw it when I was there," they write; but mindful that they have brethren like you, they qualify it with, "...but my UM gear was partially hidden by my coat..." Oh, please.
>"I don't see a lot of those "Buckeye bloggers" putting up all the "Fuck Michigan" stuff on there sites."
Maybe because bloggers tend to be true fans, not the drunken minority you paint them out to be. True fans don't behave the way you're describing, nor do they make the 'holier than thou' claims you make.
>"Thus, I'm not saying it didn't happen, but with THOUSANDS of OSU fans around, I'd think there would be a picture."
...so, we're clear, then. You're saying that everyone is lying about the boorish behavior of the UM band flipping off and cursing OSU fans, and that if I can't find pictures on the Internet of it happening, then it didn't happen. Right.
Pretty weak, man, pretty weak.
- November 30, 2006 2:20 PM
wow you guys wouldnt make it in the SEC at every Mississippi State Game fans yell"GO TO HELL OLE MISS" then there are the crazy cajuns who no matter what team you cheer for if its not LSU you will leave the stadium covered in alcohol and cussed at with words you didnt even know existed. i havent even got started on Alabama and Auburn. these 2 teams hate each other more than any other teams in the nation. i expect to have something yelled at me when im at another teams home field its all part of it.
- November 30, 2006 2:29 PM
- Yost said...
Yeah, I guess that "myth" is what led your university president to issue an apology to Texas fans last year, huh? And that "myth" is what led another OSU official to put the letter in the student paper not be act like a-holes? And that "myth" is what started the fires/got arrested after the Texas and Michigan games this year.
You know, when some MSU friends of mine were treated poorly in A2 this year, I wrote a long column about what assholes these Michigan fans were. Period. There is no excuse for that behavior. Period.
No "But it happens in E. Lansing" or "My friend saw these MSU fans doing FILL IN THE BLANK."
Note the difference. Repeat.
- November 30, 2006 2:34 PM
"It's like wearing a Michael Richards T-Shirt to Freaknik in Atlanta ". You are pretty weak in analogies.
Michael Richards is racist. Putting his T-Shirt is endorsing racism.
Singing "Victors" is supporting Michigan. The guy doesn't sing "OSU is Ohio Scandal University" or smth. He just sings his fight song.
Helluva difference.
But if u really liken singing Victors to someone wearing Michael Richards T-shirt, god help you.
Anonymous Hero
- November 30, 2006 2:35 PM
>>"when some MSU friends of mine were treated poorly in A2 this year, I wrote a long column about what assholes these Michigan fans were. Period. There is no excuse for that behavior. Period."
...and that's exactly what many OSU bloggers did this year (check the MS&G link above). Same thing as you.
But nobody's talking about excuses for setting fires, or committing criminal acts. BTW: Local TV news stations reported on the tons of Michigan fans that were arrested for disorderly conduct that afternoon. Criminals are criminals, that's not what we're talking about.
What we're talking about is you posting a video where a group of Michigan drunks taunt a group of OSU drunks, the OSU drunks taunt them right back, and you think it's an example of the wide-spread, terrible mistreatment of Michigan fans, and lump it in with an argument of the "boorish behavior in C-bus." Waaah.
It's grabbing at straws, which makes you look pretty pathetic. "Well, we couldn't beat them on the field, so we'll find some way to be better than them." It's rather childish.
- November 30, 2006 2:55 PM
- Yost said...
No, those bloggers didn't do that. They said the treatment in C-bus was bad...BUT. "BUT it happens in A2." "BUT it doesn't happen that much." But, but, but. There's ALWAYS a "but" when OSU fans "take responsibility."
As for pathetic, what's really, REALLY pathetic is you coming back over and over again to a MICHIGAN SITE to plead your case. Seriously, go cry in your beer at all the great OSU sites you keep bringing up. Maybe you'll get more sympathy there.
You mention that article about the buck fan being "tired" of hearing about poor OSU fan behavior. Well guess what, I'm tired of having shit thrown at me b/c I had the gall to simply wear a Michigan jacket on Lane Ave. I'm tired of getting warning letters from M officials advising me to stay away from certain areas around the stadium or to not drive a car with Michigan plates for safety reasons. I'm tired of not one, not 10, not 30 but countless people running up and getting right in my face flipping me off and screaming "Fuck Michigan" or "Faggots" in my face.
Those are the things that are tired.
- November 30, 2006 3:10 PM
You know what, i'm a Buckeye and I agree with Yost. This isn't about taking heat off the fact that MissAgain lost. Its about taking heat off the fact that even while the Big Ten had more Academic All-Americans than any other conference, NONE of them came from the almighty UofM, You know they're much much smarter than us lowly Buckeyes right? or hadn't they said that 1 million times already?
- November 30, 2006 3:11 PM
- November 30, 2006 3:12 PM
>"Well guess what, I'm tired of having shit thrown at me b/c I had the gall to simply wear a Michigan jacket on Lane Ave."
I didn't like having batteries thrown at me when up at A2 in 2003. Be glad you only had to dodge donuts.
>"I'm tired of getting warning letters from M officials advising me to stay away from certain areas around the stadium or to not drive a car with Michigan plates for safety reasons."
I'm tired of pathetic attempts by other universities to rally their teams against OSU. That's all the e-mail was, btw. A stunt to get the fans riled up. As if driving a car with Michigan plates really is dangerous in C-bus. Puh-leeze.
>"I'm tired of not one, not 10, not 30 but countless people running up and getting right in my face flipping me off and screaming "Fuck Michigan" or "Faggots" in my face."
I tire when the same thing happens when I go to A2. The first time it happened, I realized that I should probably stay away from the drunken a-holes, not make a special effort to fraternize with them for the purposes of making myself feel superior.
>"Seriously, go cry in your beer at all the great OSU sites you keep bringing up."
And I'm tired of Michigan bloggers who think that when someone calls them out for hypocrisy that the person is just "crying in his beer." Dude - I'm here because YOU'RE the one crying! I'm celebrating. 42-39, dude. We won again. I'm happy. You try to convince everyone that you're better, but you're not. UM fans are not any better than OSU fans, or vice versa. Anyone who says otherwise has NO idea what this rivalry is about, and has no right to call himself a true fan.
Enjoy your annual Rose Bowl loss. Ciao.
- November 30, 2006 3:22 PM
- Yost said...
Typical Buckeye class. Why again are you "celebrating" on a Michigan site on a post about typical shitty OSU fan behavior?
- November 30, 2006 3:25 PM
- TitleIX said...
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- November 30, 2006 3:50 PM
I can guarantee that the UM Band did not have a F OSU sign on the bus, nor were they screaming from the windows (tour buses windows don't open)... as I was a part of the caravan through town. I took many pictures (although blurry) of huge groups of tOSU fans flippin the bird at our line of buses. We usually keep a finger count at opposing campuses, but at Columbus, its always a bare-ass count. This year we made it to 4.
- November 30, 2006 4:19 PM
- TitleIX said...
4 bare-asses????
how could you tell????
(and it's going going GONE, softball hit right over the fence to deep center field)
- November 30, 2006 4:47 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
this is actually kind of funny. 100+ games and they're still living in our shadow, judging damn near everything against us. no matter what they do, on or off the field, they beg for our "approval" even now and go nuts when they don't get it.
why else care so much about what you/we say about them? is there any other fan base in the world that spends so much time arguing about someone else's opinion of them?
go to any tosu fan blog, and look at the ratio of m fans disputing tosu fan statements- drop in the bucket. look at this blog- half the commenters are tosu fans.
michigan fans by & large pay little attention to what tosu fans post, but there's a huge group of tosu fans who live & die by what we have to say about them. some read your work because it's damn funny- but the "f-u" crowd comes here because they can't stand you don't think they're as great as they think they are. how dare you?
just watch how many go nuts over this comment and can't help but tell me i'm wrong.
- November 30, 2006 5:08 PM
- el Kaiser said...
I can guarantee that the UM Band did not have a F OSU sign on the bus, nor were they screaming from the windows (tour buses windows don't open)... as I was a part of the caravan through town.
I'm the author of the aforementioned blog post. I was there, in front of La Bambas on High Street when the buses drove by. DW is correct, there were no open windows, but it's pretty easy to read lips, if you know what I mean. And yes, the bird was flipped by many a bus rider. And yes, there was an "F-OSU" sign. It was the first thing I noticed as I was grabbing for my camera. Unfortunately I didn't get it out in time to snap any pics.
- November 30, 2006 5:22 PM
- Andy said...
While the rest of the country considers the phrase "FUCK [fill in the blank] !!!!" as a verbal assault, clearly there are many many fans at Ohio State that have accepted it as a standard part of their cheering portfolio.
From ESPN.com: It is true that in 1970, a local judge in Columbus dismissed a charge of obscenity against a defendant arrested for wearing a T-shirt that said, "F--- Michigan" because the message "accurately expressed" local feelings about the university and the state.
This isn't about who is better on the football field or who has more acdemic all americans. It is about acceptable public behavior and the dangers of mob conduct. Yost is not taking a typical Michigan elitist approach (which is my favorite buckeye counter argument of all time).
There is a difference between cheering for your team (like singing the fight song) and verbally assaulting the opposition (like chanting FUCK MICHIGAN).
- November 30, 2006 7:13 PM
- PeckHorn78 said...
>>I can guarantee that the UM Band did not have a F OSU sign on the bus, nor were they screaming from the windows (tour buses windows don't open)... as I was a part of the caravan through town.<<
>>I'm the author of the aforementioned blog post. I was there. [There] were no open windows, but it's pretty easy to read lips, and yes, the bird was flipped by many a bus rider. And yes, there was an "F-OSU" sign.<<
As an alumnus of the MMB, we were specifically instructed not to react in any way whatsoever to any provocation, either verbal or even physical. When marching through streets to or from a visiting stadium, if there was a sense the crowd was especially hostile, we would go into a "protection formation" where the biggest male members of the band were toward the perimeter, and females were toward the center. The only time this occurred in the 4 years I was in the band were in certain away games where we lost- when we won (and we won both trips to the "Shoe" when I was in school) we were generally left alone. (OSU fan to the MMB as we were marching out of the stadium in 1980: "Good luck in the Rose Bowl!).
That members of the MMB would even consider instigating anything with either gestures or signs certainly wouldn't be tolerated by the MMB staff or the university. If someone from OSU has proof of this, I would definitely love to see it because it should be brought to the attention of the MMB staff and University authorities and dealt with severely.
- November 30, 2006 8:04 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
they lie, okay? they make stuff up to avoid admitting things. kind of like "i voted UT #1", you know?
seriously, there's never been a better fit than tre$$ell, tosu, and the buckeye nation.
- November 30, 2006 8:18 PM
Jealousy sucks SIC
- November 30, 2006 8:28 PM
they lie, okay? they make stuff up to avoid admitting things. kind of like "I got hit by a frosted doughnut", you know?
- November 30, 2006 8:32 PM
- Yost said...
Why on earth would I make up getting hit by a donut?
And it was powdered, not frosted.
- November 30, 2006 8:47 PM
Humor factor?
- November 30, 2006 8:49 PM
- Yost said...
I didn't find it funny. Sorry. I was actually quite pissed when it happened.
- November 30, 2006 8:53 PM
Hey Yost, unless I see you getting hit by a (powdered) donut on YouTube, it's not true.
And do you think Wisconsin's band administration condoned forced sexual favors and hazing? Just because they don't condone it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. If you got hit by a donut, then the MMB flicked off El Kaiser out of their bus. End of story.
- November 30, 2006 9:09 PM
- TitleIX said...
actually Andy, it is now legal to say "fuck" in Michigan too....
"From 2002:
TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — The Michigan Court of Appeals yesterday struck down a 105-year-old law against using vulgar language in front of women and children, throwing out the conviction of a canoeist who let loose a stream of curses after falling into the water.
A three-judge panel ruled in favor of Timothy Joseph Boomer. An Arenac County jury had found him guilty in 1999 of swearing after tumbling into the Rifle River.
He was fined $75 and ordered to work four days in a child-care program, but the sentence was put on hold while the case was appealed."
- November 30, 2006 9:18 PM
- JD said...
I am not UM or tOSU, but I am a Spartan, of the San Jose State variety.
And I have watched this debate with great interest, even having taken on El Kaiser and Monkey Boy over at MOTSAG in his "I'm sick and tired" post.
And for all their posturing about people being hypocritical about taking a high horse position because bad things happened also in A2 or Madison or East Lansing blah-blah-blah, there is one thing that the MOTSAG folks cannot get around: When the Bucks win big games, shit catches on fire. Furthermore, when the Bucks are in town, it appears that the laws regarding public drunkenness and assault and arson are significantly relaxed (if not outrightly suspended) in Franklin County for the duration.
There is no justification for people of opponent universities being advised to hide their affiliation when they hit C-Bus, lest they be accosted by the locals. None.
Texas fans had no reason to expect the atrocious treatment they received there in 2005, and it was gloriously reflected in the Texas hospitality shown to tOSU folks in their big game down in Austin this season.
"NOT MY FAULT!!!", the MOTSAG bleat. "We hate it too!", they whimper. "It's just a buncha drunks, from BOTH SIDES!", they rationalize.
The bottom line is that C-Bus got its reputation as a college football hellhole the old-fashioned way: They earned it.
And unless and until the people at tOSU and in C-Bus take some steps to make sure that the game-day conduct of all peole in C-Bus is no different than would be expected on any other normal day, that rep will remain.
And in the meantime, they should quit pissing and bitching and moaning when they get called on it.
- November 30, 2006 10:26 PM
- Andy said...
There is a difference between legal and appropriate.
I don't dispute that it is a buckeye fans legal right to yell F*CK MICHIGAN whenever they please. In some uncomfortable constitutional way, it is protected. However, I do not think it is appropriate.
Again, the primary issue here is cheering for your team versus degrading your rival.
Go Blue = a cheer for my team (appropriate)
Go Bucks = a cheer for your team (appropriate)
Fuck Michigan = a hostile verbal assault (inappropriate)
Throwing any object (battery, coins, or donuts) at another person = a physical assault (not legal)
- November 30, 2006 10:35 PM
- TitleIX said...
match, Andy
- November 30, 2006 10:55 PM
- Yost said...
I'd say, "Well said" but I'd hate to be the one who caused you and SJSU to be added to OSU's hit list.
Neidermyer. Dead.
Michigan. Dead.
JD. Dead.
- November 30, 2006 11:02 PM
- Yost said...
Yeah, Eric, they're exactly the same. And you're right, my bad. OSU's fans are great. The way they cut the fires down from the Texas game compared to the Michigan gam...oh wait.
I meant the arrests which dried up...oops, 0 for 2.
Well, at least no University officials were hit by a car after that game. I guess that's why the OSU Prez was talking about all the "fan improvement."
- November 30, 2006 11:04 PM
- JD said...
"I'd hate to be the one who caused you and SJSU to be added to OSU's hit list."
I'm perfectly capable of pissing people off all by my lonesome, thank you very much. However, your concern is noted and appreciated.
Question for the Bucks faithful: In the video referenced in this thread, why didn't your 'fans' just break out in the alternate version of "Victors," and just drown the Maizies out?
I mean, I know it would require some thought, a little singing and the ability to string more than two spoken words together, but wouldn't that have been a better solution in dealing with the yellow peril seen desecrating the Holy of Holies?
- November 30, 2006 11:29 PM
- srudoff said...
thanks for deleting my post ?
- December 01, 2006 12:04 AM
Yeah, I don't have a cool little video to post on YouTube, but the same stuff happens everywhere. Not just here at OSU.
In 1998 I went to the Indiana game in Bloomington. My fellow Buck fans and I went into a bar (Nicks?) packed with Indiana students. We dropped a dollar in the jukebox and chose Hang On Sloopy. You know, a song near and dear to Ohio State fans. Of course we included the O H I O where appropriate. The entire bar broke out into a chant of "F*ck the Bucks" throughout the rest of the song. Essentially the exact same situation pictured in this video, only it was THEIR jukebox.
Strange don't you think? Here we are in a peaceful little Indiana college town with no reputation for animosity with Ohio natives and not only were they intolerant of our song selection, they didn't counter by singing thier fight songs or yelling "Go Hoosiers".
What a classless pack of animals.
But unlike scUM fans I both expected and enjoyed their reaction. Unbelieveable huh? I actually expected them to react negatively (but peacefully) when we "showed our school pride" on their turf. I didn't cry, I didn't b*tch to every Indiana grad I knew, I played along with them, and had a good time doing it.
You should try it some time. You know, loosening up and not taking everything as personal attack on you. Once you come down from that Ivory tower you'll find that people really aren't that bad after all.
- December 01, 2006 12:16 AM
- sportsMonkey said...
I am a co-blogger of the aforementioned commenter who commented on the aforementioned blog. And it's the sportsMonkey, not MONKEY BOY. I insist on being insulted correctly. *grin*
There is no justification for people of opponent universities being advised to hide their affiliation when they hit C-Bus, lest they be accosted by the locals. None.
You're right. There is absolutely no justification - so long as it's warranted. However, as someone already pointed out above, that "warning" was nothing more than a PR stunt by the UM brass. Do you honestly think the UM president thinks people shouldn't drive in Columbus with Michigan tags on their car? Columbus is a big city. I see tons of people with out-of state tags every day. There isn't some conspiracy in the city council to seek & destroy Michigan tags. West Virginia tags, maybe. But not Michigan. There's good hunting up there.
""NOT MY FAULT!!!", the MOTSAG bleat.
It isn't our fault. Why are you suggesting otherwise?
"We hate it too!", they whimper.
We do hate it. What's wrong with hating it? What do you mean by "whimper"?
"It's just a buncha drunks, from BOTH SIDES!", they rationalize.
Well, it is. How is that rationalization?
Lots of rhetoric here, but not much persuasion. Set up a fake argument, declare victory. Straw man. Moving on.
I hesitate to speak for el Kaiser outside of MotSaG, but I think people don't understand his point: We're sick of apologizing. We don't like the behavior from fellow fans, just like we don't like it when we're on the short end of it.
In short, it's a refusal to be hypocritical. We'll encourage everyone to be good fans, we'll try to be the best fans we can be ourselves, and that's the best that anyone can do.
We refuse to take on the responsibility of convincing people on both sides to act like adults. It's like trying to invent the self-licking ice-cream cone.
Personally, all I want is for everyone to join us in the effort to be true, well-behaved fans. That means not only avoiding the bad behavior, but doing our best to ignore it.
All the people who do this kind of stuff are doing it because they want attention. So don't give it to them. Everyone's time is too valuable to waste it on these losers.
- December 01, 2006 12:17 AM
- Yost said...
Good points all, SportsMonkey.
As a side note, we meant to contact you guys before the M/OSU game to make a friendly wager with the loser having to replace their team's logo with the other for a week or so and let the other side put up the postgame post.
Sure damn glad we forgot to send that email. Maybe we'll remember next year now that Troy Smith has graduated.
Thanks for the comment.
- December 01, 2006 12:21 AM
- JD said...
I do sincerely apologize to the SportsMonkey for the misnomerification. I must have been having a John Lithgow moment.
Unfortunately, what the Monkey suggests for his part is tantamount to acting like those legendary Three Wise Monkeys: "See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil."
History is replete with examples of what happens when that sort of, er, 'proactive' approach is used in problem solving.
Ignoring the problems, or the perpetrators thereof, will not help it go away. Shielding one's eyes from antisocial behavior does not make the antisocial behavior go away, nor does it act to prevent said behavior from occurring again.
Were the authorities at tOSU and in Columbus actually willing (or able) to make a firm stand in this regard, I believe a lot of these problems could be curbed toot sweet.
- December 01, 2006 2:12 AM
- surrounded in columbus said...
just because tosu fans may be tired of apologizing or hearing the complaints, doesn't mean other fans are tired of complaining about it.
and being tired of apologizing doesn't give tosu fans a license to make rationalize or create denials.
happens everywhere? where then? where this year has there been 40 arrests and 17 fires following a football game? where in the last two years has there been a debacle like that which followed the 2005 UT-tosu game?
it doesn't happen everywhere. not like it happens here in columbus. calling people "jerk-faces" or saying we're just pissed because of the last stretch of games does NOTHING to address the facts.
and finally, it's not just michigan fans. poll other big ten fan bases. 9 out of 11 would tell you columbus is the worst (the moo su fans would know it was columbus, but they'd say michigan just to be spiteful).
- December 01, 2006 9:37 AM
- sportsMonkey said...
Yost -
>>As a side note, we meant to contact you guys before the M/OSU game to make a friendly wager with the loser having to replace their team's logo with the other for a week or so and let the other side put up the postgame post.
Sure damn glad we forgot to send that email.<<
Hmmm... what if there's a rematch in Glendale? Might be worth considering. ;-)
- December 01, 2006 10:29 AM
He was hounded by OSU fans because he went into a crowd of Ohio State fans singing his fight song and it's obvious he was going to get taunted!!! I'm glad he had pride, but come on if someone was in a crowd of Michigan fans singing Buckeye Battle Cry you guys would do almost the same thing, you act like this is something new???
- December 01, 2006 11:58 AM
anon 8:58,
While it is true that some Michigan fans in a reverse situation (a group of 6 opponents singing in a crowd of 600 within earshot) might resort to "FUCK OSU," 595 of them would start singing the Victors to drown out the OSU brass. There will be occassions of UM assault (verbal and unfortunately physical) against OSU, just as there are at many games in many rivalries. What sets OSU aside is that "Fuck Michigan" isn't the battle cry of 5 Buckfans in response, but of the majority of people in the crowd, with no apparent attempt by anyone in the sea of red to respond differently.
In Ann Arbor some people would yell "Fuck Ohio State," but someone else would immediately play the cow-bell or start singing Hail to the Victors and the crowd would follow those positive cheers instead.
Even in San Diego I witness the discrepancy in behavior. The two alumni club bars are right next to each other. In 2005 with Michigan's lead, a group of UM fans went next door and sang Hail to the Victors. Bad taste considering the eventual loss. OSU fans come to the UM bar with a lead, however, and don't sing Sloopy or chant O-H-I-O, they yell "FUCK MICHIGAN" repeatedly.
The general point of this post is not to whine about experiences in Columbus, but to ask the question: why are the negative cheers seemingly the majority? Why not respond positively with a cheer for your team?
- December 01, 2006 3:40 PM


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Tuesday, March 18, 2008
15 Greatest Sports Movies of All-Time: The Honorable Mentions
Today are the six films that didn't quite make the top 15 cut but are still good films. In no particular order, those "Honorable Mentions" are:
* KARATE KID - Anybody who saw this growing up, immediately and forever more, thought that that blonde haired Cobra Kai kid was the biggest dick on the planet...until you met his sensai Mr. John Kreese.
KREESE: Sweep the leg.
[Johnny doesn't answer]
KREESE: Do you have a problem with that?
JOHNNY: No, sensai.
KREESE: No mercy.
Just typing the dialogue above, I want to see that kid get his ass kicked all over again when Ralph Macchio does that one-legged grass hopper jump thing.
* MIRACLE - Truth be told, this probably only even makes the honorable mention list because the true life event - the Miracle on Ice at the '80 Olympics, when the heavily favored Russians lost to the U.S. hockey team in the midst of the Cold War - was so damn incredible itself. The film, while good not great, gets a pass simply by telling that story for the big screen.
"Do you believe in Miracles?! Yes!"
* VISION QUEST - Vision Quest? Yes, Vision Quest. That wrestling movie with Matthew Modine? No, that hot chick movie with Linda Fiorentino. I could give a rat's cornhole about wresting. But I wanted to take it up after seeing this in the hopes that my parents would rent a room in our house to a sexy drifter like Fiorentino who would then teach me the ways of the world.
As my blogging life probably hints at, unfortunately that didn't happen.
* ROUNDERS - I saw this when it first came out before I started playing poker and I liked it but didn't love it. Then I saw it again after I had been playing for awhile.
Although, if I have to sit at one more table where some jackass does his Teddy KGB impression while "splashing zee vucking pot," I'm gonna smack somebody.
* INVINCIBLE - This is one I had no desire to see when it first came out. If, like me, you see a lot of sports movies, so many of them are all the same. You know where they're going before you even step foot in the theater. This fell into that category for me. Yet somehow I ended up watching it on DVD and, although many of the story scenes were things you could predict, something about this movie just clicked and I really liked it.
* SEARCHING FOR BOBBY FISCHER - Frankly, the only reason this isn't in my top 15 is because - like poker - I simply can't count chess as a sport. But the move is fantastic. If you haven't seen this because you don't want to see "some stupid chess movie," do yourself a favor and check it out. Me thinks you won't be disappointed.
Tomorrow - Movies 15-10 (or however many I have time to get to)
56 comments:
- whetstonebuck said...
I assume you will rank highly Joshua's cinematic life story:
Secretariat: The Later Years
- March 17, 2008 1:19 AM
- TitleIX said...
I apologize for this interruption, but...
www.freep.com has awesome pics of Jack Morris!
Back to the movies!
in NO particular order---
1) Bull Durham
2) Field of Dreams
3) Bad News Bears
4) BRIAN'S SONG (football chick flick if there ever was one!)
5) Jerry McGuire (same idea)
6) Remember the Titans
7) Rocky
8) Talladega Nights (thank you baby jesus)
9) Caddy Shack?
10) Murderball
11) A League of Their Own
12) Hoosiers
- March 17, 2008 7:21 AM
- Daniel said...
. . . does "Greatest" mean "Classics"? "Slapshot" and "The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh" may not be considered "great" cinematic efforts, they sure are "classics".
- March 17, 2008 8:31 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Two movies you should definitely include:
A League of Their Own: Not only is it a damn good sports movie, but it rivals Mean Girls for the title of the all-time greatest chick flick.
Rookie of the Year: Alriiight, Mom!
Ditto on Jerry Mig and Rocky. I have to see a few of the classics in T9's list. Whoops.
Possible candidates:
Ali: I thought it was overrated, but it was still good.
The Hurricane: It is great until you find out that the whole movie is one big lie, and boxing might just be a footnote in this one.
Glory Road: A recent one, but I liked it a lot. It would be perfect right now because of March Madness, but this is a list of the greatest movies of all time, not the greatest movies for March.
The Air Up There.
Above the Rim: It was either this one or He Got Game that was like 4 hours long and neverending. Maybe it was good, but I found it boring. But then again, I was 9 years old when I saw it.
Coming up next: If you add these movies, I'm going to scream
- March 17, 2008 8:33 AM
- Ron said...
It's only been in theaters a little while now, hopefully Semi-pro makes the list. Love me sexy baby.
White Men Can't Jump. great trash talking flick.
- March 17, 2008 9:01 AM
- Out of Conference said...
Caddy Shack
Any Given Sunday
Cannon Ball Run (if you count that a sport- which I'm ok if you dont)
too busy at work to think of others now, but hopefully I'll get a chance later
- March 17, 2008 9:48 AM
- Nate said...
I will have a hard time accepting any list that does not have Karate Kid in the top 15. Its the best AROOOOUUUNNDD!!! I actually found Miracle to be pretty good too, but I think that was mainly due to it being true. Of course so was Karate Kid, right, right?????
- March 17, 2008 10:05 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I still have to see Bull Durham, Field of Dreams, and Remember the Titans. I am a little behind on those.
Oh way to go, T9! I just noticed that you mentioned a League of Their Own. One of the great all-time lines "There's no crying in baseball."
Movies that should never make the list:
The Program. Not even James Caan or the Heisman candidate Michigan QB Tim "All the" Wayman could save this hunk of turd. There was a scene filmed in which all of the players lie in the middle of the street to show that they are good under pressure. That scene was left on the cutting room floor after some kids tried to do that after seeing a preview. They should have included the scene but have the whole team get run over and just end the movie there.
Showgirls. I am sorry, Josh, but exotic dancing does not count as a sport. As anyone who has been to a strip club will tell you, it is hard to score anyway. And even if you do manage to score, you still end up losing, unless you count chlamydia as a prize.
The Cutting Edge.
Rudy. Two words: Notre Dame. Not enough of a good reason? Fine, add it to the list.
Anything about the Yankees. Fuck 'em. Fuck 'em in the ear.
You should add Raging Bull unless you don't consider it a sports movie. Another one might be Chariots of Fire, but I haven't seen it since I was a child.
Oh, and I hear Hoop Dreams is good too. I don't know if I saw it though. I might be confusing it with Above the Rim or He Got Game. Wait, He Got Game is the Spike Lee one, right? Ok, I didn't see that one. So it was Hoop Dreams or Above the Rim, or both.
Longest Yard could be up there, but it loses some of its shine since the remake featured a line about A--------n State.
- March 17, 2008 10:09 AM
- Beauford Bixel said...
Please say that you'll have "breaking away" in your top 10 - if only for comedic value. Think about Dennis Quad in short-shorts. Oh, and they're denim.
- March 17, 2008 10:22 AM
- Ron said...
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- March 17, 2008 10:45 AM
- Ron said...
I forgot one -
Varsity Blues - High-Sterical
"I don't want your life"
"Kyle, did you start a cult, that's so sweet"
- March 17, 2008 10:46 AM
- Joshua said...
Varsity Blues gave us Ali larter in a whipped cream bikini. And you know who likes Ali Larter in a whipped cream bikini?
THIS GUY! (points at self with both thumbs.)
I assume you will rank highly Joshua's cinematic life story:
Secretariat: The Later Years
The sad part is it took me 5 minutes to get this joke. True story.
- March 17, 2008 11:08 AM
- Hemlock Philosopher said...
Playing cards is not and should never be considered a Sport. Although "Rounders" was a good flick, it should never be considered a Sport. Yes, ESPN shows Texas Hold Em tournaments, but this doesn't make it a sport.
- March 17, 2008 11:48 AM
- Sgt. Wolverine said...
Good call, T9; Murderball was good. Also, some of the guys in the movie would make you scared NOT to increase wheelchair seating in the stadium...
How about The Natural?
- March 17, 2008 11:48 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
Josh, you stud, have another cup of coffee or at least wake up and smell it.
Way too slow for your neurons.
- March 17, 2008 11:49 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
You can't count any sports flick in the top five if the last sequence isn't in slow motion. That's just a law of the universe.
- March 17, 2008 11:51 AM
- CaliGirl said...
What?!?! The recent release of the Cutting Edge 3,206,005 didn't make it?? How about Stick It?
Bull Durham HAS to be up there.
Others I'd rank, not listed already by others:
(in no particular order)
Major League (c'mon...Wild Thing??)
Pride of the Yankees (Gary Cooper playing Lou Gerhig is great)
Kingpin (is Bowling a real sport?!?!)
Gladiator (if you consider Roman gladiator fighting a sport...they did)
Tin Cup
Eight Men Out
This is a great topic, next we should do the WORST sports movies of all time!
- March 17, 2008 11:57 AM
- Joshua said...
Just read Carty's Part 2 from today and at this point there are only two scenarios:
A) Carty has been co-opted by the Knights of the Unholy Jellybean, a secret society based in caverns deep under the diag. He is being used as a pansy to write this story in an attempt at distraction. The real story is that we genetically engineer terminator style athletes powered by the energy expended in "down in front" shouts of angry blue hairs who think they're at a tea party and not a f-ing football game. (Only apparently we're not that good at making said athletic monstrosities- see recent record vs. OSU for proof.)
B) He really just spent months of his life researching that "investigative report" and believes it to be newsworthy.
My money is definitely on A.
- March 17, 2008 12:24 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
no one has suggested "Cinderella Man"? Lloyd and BFF Russell would both be very disappointed.
also, "Raging Bull"?
"Seabiscuit"?? basically Cinderella Man rides a horse?
as for football, "Something for Joey" is the ONLY thing to ever come out of PSU worth watching twice (including 1988 Fiesta Bowl clips).
everything ever made by Warren Miller?
and what about "Dodgeball"??? come on, the movie gave us the line: "Guys, you had me at 'blood and semen'"???
- March 17, 2008 12:47 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Oh yeah...
I forgot about Cinderella Man. I think that was the one I was trying to think of but I got too caught up with trying to remember He Got Above the Rim in His Hoop Dreams. Awesome, awesome movie. And I already mentioned Raging Bull.
Joshua, apparently Jim Carty got all of his info from a source named "Fathomless Larynx."
Dodgeball is one of the best sports comedies. Don't worry, I still remember Caddy Shack. Talladega Nights? Nope. It was not that funny, although it had funny parts, and NASCAR should not be considered a sport, or should at least be banned because it is a waste of gas. Sorry, Days of Thunder fans.
- March 17, 2008 1:02 PM
- Mathew said...
I have to agree with Hemlock Philosopher. I love your blog and you've had a lot of great reads over the year or so I've been reading it, but you just lost a lot of credibility in my eyes by calling poker a sport (particularly when you also called out chess as not being a sport... there is nothing about poker to make it more of a sport than chess). Likewise I sincerely hope that you have the good sense to not include any of the following non-sports in your top 25:
-Auto-racing of any kind
-Competitive eating
One movie that definitely should make the list that hasn't been mentioned yet is Without Limits. Amazing, amazing movie. Even having seen it a bunch of times, I find myself holding my breath during the race in Munich every time.
- March 17, 2008 1:09 PM
- Joshua said...
Feelin' Blue,
quit everything you are doing and go rent Field of Dreams and Bull Durham. RIGHT NOW. This is imperative to your ability to exist as a human being. Unless you're celebrating St. Patty's in which case you rent The Boondock Saints (GREATEST. MOVIE. EVER.), then watch the others while recovering from your hangover tomorrow.
Always stop what I'm doing and watch the Natural to the end whenever it's on. It's a rule.
It's March 17th, and I'm not out drinking. I'm at work. I'm not even drinking at work. It's 12:59 pm, which puts me about 6 hours behind my traditional morning Car Bomb, I don't know which is more confused- my brain or my liver, and I think my inner leprechaun is weeping.
- March 17, 2008 1:20 PM
- Dezzi said...
- March 17, 2008 1:21 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
another possible movie- "Forrest Gump". not typically thought of as a "sports" movie, Forrest becomes an all american @ Bama, plays China in Ping Pong, and invents jogging.
as for Carty & the AA News series, i have to wonder how they sold taking up 4 days of space to the editor. the Detroit News angle on this: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080317/SCHOOLS/803170361/1131/SPORTS0201
is basically that the investigation showed up no wrong doing. that leaves Carty w/ a 4 day story line about "things that don't look good" but are hardly violations or even uncommon.
the only other venues to pick up this non story are the NY Times, which dutifully reports that players were steered to easy classes: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/sports/ncaafootball/17michigan.html?ex=1206417600&en=4c17a3d7770b8317&ei=5070&emc=eta1
and EDSBS, which laughs at Jim Delaney's "holier than thou" comparison of the Big Ten to the SEC.
even the Dispatch, which likes to report when anyone north of Toledo sneezes and forgets to say "excuse me" hasn't picked this up. THAT's how dull this is.
- March 17, 2008 1:33 PM
- Nate said...
Sports Illustrated also picked up the story (from the NYT):
Look we all know this stuff happens at every school with a respectable athletic program, but a headline like "Report: Michigan Classes Too Easy" doesn't look great.
- March 17, 2008 1:41 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
no, it looks "bad". despite two separate investigations having cleared this prof, the U will have to look more closely at referrals to him and consider steering players away. i think most of our alums & fans won't tolerate even the appearance of improper behavior. some changes will be made.
that said, the headline "athletes take easy classes" only looks bad. it will be intersting to see how many people bother to read the 3rd and 4th installments of the series. the AANews has better saved up something really earth shattering if anyone is going to follow this tomorrow.
- March 17, 2008 1:49 PM
- jcloverboi said...
i can't believe no one's mentioned Air Bud or Air Bud 2: Golden Receiver. Do you people have hearts of stone?! Both are brimming with sports, and there is no purer love in the world that than between a boy and his dog.
- March 17, 2008 1:54 PM
- Out of Conference said...
- March 17, 2008 2:11 PM
- Nate said...
As a non-Michigan fan, I see this as a complete non-story. Some athletes take easier courses, surprise, surprise. If Michigan didn't have such a strong academic rep, it wouldn't be a story at all. I mean I can't imagine a headline of "WVU players steered toward easier classes," and I went to school there.
- March 17, 2008 2:17 PM
- kristy said...
I have to agree with League of Their Own. Very good and I love tom Hanks in pretty much anything he does.
Tin Cup-fun except the PAINFUL hole in the open that he just can't clear the water hazard on. Also, the kids would probably lke to vote for Space Jam. Y'know, the one with M. Jordan and the Luney Tunes?:) How about Bring It On? Cheering with attitude!! LOL! I really liked Coach Carter. Sam Jackson is a great Actor.
- March 17, 2008 2:46 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
If cheering is a sport so is country line dancing.
- March 17, 2008 2:51 PM
- kristy said...
"Jeapardy is gonna call Billy!!!"
"You lost all the money Billy?!?!?! I Can't believe you BIILLLy!!"
White Men Can't Jump
Rosie Perez and her high pitched voice made that movie!!
- March 17, 2008 2:51 PM
- Joshua said...
Knocking off work early- my inner leprechaun is doing a jig.
Dez- great call on Bloodsport.
And I still contend that stripping is a sport. One of my ex's could do things on a pole that'd make men AND women cry. (Get your mind out of the gutter- I mean from an athletic workout standpoint. Well, the other way too.) And before anyone gets all "judgemental" she scored a 34 on her ACT, looked like the girl next door, and is still one of the most incredibly intelligent women I've ever had the chance of knowing. AND she made me wait 6 weeks before taking off her bra. Seriously- you're a stripper! What's up with that? Leave it to me to date the one prudish stripper in North America.
- March 17, 2008 3:08 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I am sorry to say Josh that I am just a lame human being and have not gotten around to seeing those movies. It's okay, though. I have a friend who still hasn't seen Back to the Future. That might, however, be like John Wayne Gacy saying, "At least I didn't eat people like Jeffrey Dahmer did!"
I have to disagree with you on Boondock Saints. That distinction of greatest movie ever should go to The Departed, which I think really is one of the greatest movies ever. I thought Boondock Saints was just okay.
I was about to watch Field of Dreams On Demand, but I just never got around to it. As my beloved Indian guy in 40-Year-Old Virgin might say, holy shit man, I gotta get on that.
- March 17, 2008 3:08 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Anyone doing a bracket? I don't know what to do with Tenn. UNC is just the best on paper, and I don't know who I should have win that region. I think Tenn has a great shot at winning it all, especially after they came so close to beating OSU last year and Bruce Pearl knows how to motivate his team.
Another problem is that there has never been a tournament in which all four #1 seeds made it to the Final Four, but these #1 seeds might just be the best four teams, bar Tenn. Memphis is also really great on paper, but I just don't know how vulnerable they are in a tourney situation where not everyone is in C-USA. I also feel like this will be the year that a 1 seed finally loses in the first round. It has to be. It would be in line with all of the other upsets that took place this year.
- March 17, 2008 3:15 PM
- FreeTheFan said...
Intriguing that you would consider "Karate Kid" a sports movie, not that I disagree.
I would disagree with the notion that filling out an NCAA Tourney Bracket for free with a chance to win $2,000 in prizes is not worth the time. Check it here:
Why not? I feel like simply filling out the brackets is fun; hopefully I'll get one right.
- March 17, 2008 4:08 PM
- Sgt. Wolverine said...
"but these #1 seeds might just be the best four teams"
Ah, but you know that in a playoff situation, "best team" and "winning team" aren't necessarily the same things.
- March 17, 2008 4:12 PM
- JCF said...
The Natural.
I was pretty young when it came out and not a huge baseball fan, but old enough to know a thing or two about that intrinsic quality to sports that makes what happens on the court, the field, and so on, so very, very special.
When Hobbs hits that final HR and rounds the bases there are sparks drifting to the ground. The scene is in slow-motion. And then there is this cut to a shot of Pops (the old-timer and down on his luck manager who just wanted to get to the World Series--win or lose). He is sitting in the dugout, by himself and perfectly still in the dark. All you really see well is his eyes (the sparks reflecting on his glasses), his mouth slightly agape. Dumbfounded and marveling at what he just witnessed. A realization of the ultimate trajectory of all of the love and work he had put into the sport his entire life. Magic. The kind that is real and can happen in real life thanks to that thing we call sports.
Man, I'm getting chills just thinking and writing about it. Every time I see that scene, no matter how old I am, I cry. It sums it all up for this sports fan.
- March 17, 2008 4:37 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
kicking myself for having not listed this one earlier, but for anyone over the age of 40-
"North Dallas Forty" was a "must see" into the seemier side of "america's team".
- March 17, 2008 5:05 PM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I thought that distinction rested with Debbie Does Dallas.
- March 17, 2008 5:24 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
given the nature of "the crowd" around here, i assumed eveyone had already seen that, regardless of age.
however, it does bring up the question of whether "porno" qualifies as a sport. certainly more so than poker or chess.
- March 17, 2008 5:31 PM
- Sgt. Wolverine said...
Has Friday Night Lights been mentioned yet?
- March 17, 2008 6:00 PM
- zen wizard said...
How about "Most Miscast Sports Movies Ever"?
E.g., Richard Lewis in Game Day; Tim Robbins in Bull Durham; etc.
I don't know about "Best Sports Movie Ever," or even, "Best Movie that Came Out the Week It Was Released," but if you could only see one sports movie, you should see The Comebacks because it contains elements of every sports movie ever made.
- March 17, 2008 6:20 PM
- beast in 'bama said...
In my mind it's difficult to come up with 15 decent sports movies, period, much less the 15 "best" sports movies.
One that is excellent and hasn't been mentioned is "This Sporting Life" with Richard Harris - the actor who played the original Albus Dumbledore in the Harry Potter series, for all you youngsters.
It does a good job of examining the enormous lure of professional sports (rugby, in this case) as a means of escaping poverty. Harris' character is an excellent study in blind obsession. The rugby scenes reflect the brutality of the sport.
Others mentioned that I like - Raging Bull, North Dallas Forty (good one, SiC), and (God help me, I do love it so) Breaking Away. Ciao!
- March 17, 2008 6:21 PM
- zen wizard said...
I have mixed feelings about Debbie Does Dallas.
On one hand, she was supposedly a real Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.
On the other hand--and I will have to review the screenplay, but--I don't think she ever makes it to Dallas.
I mean, I realize that the plot of the movie is all about her quest to make it to Dallas, but still...
- March 17, 2008 6:23 PM
- zen wizard said...
On a serious note, I hate soccer, but Escape to Victory where the Nazi prison camp prisoners have a chance to escape during halftime but play the rest of the game for propaganda and other reasons is a kick-ass idea.
And as I recall it was executed pretty well:
- March 17, 2008 6:30 PM
- Ron said...
SOrry, not watching Field of Dreams or Bull Durham until Kevin Costner goes on tour and apologizes for Robin Hood, prince of bad acting.
Caddyshack -
Cinderella story. Outta nowhere. A former greenskeeper, now, about to become the Masters champion. It looks like a mirac... It's in the hole! It's in the hole! It's in the hole!
- March 17, 2008 6:55 PM
- zen wizard said...
White Men Can't Jump should have been titled, White Men Can't Jump--And Make Sure You At Least Audition The Black Guy On A Basketball Court.
- March 17, 2008 7:25 PM
- TitleIX said...
re: Carty
An open letter....
Jimbo, you win the prize in journalism titled, "NO SHIT SHERLOCK!" (apropos for today)
Yep, Men's Bball and Fball players have talent that is not necessarily cerebral in nature.
However, to paint ALL Michigan athletes with that "General Studies" cake-walk brush is a travesty. Sunday's article mentions T'Shia Walker from Women's BB. Mr. Cary, you neglected to mention that T'Shia is graduating from Michigan ON TIME and is GOING TO LAW SCHOOL. Perhaps she actually benefited from the extra attention re: study skills, organizational skills, and academic counseling that she received?????
JIMBO--check out the MED SCHOOL, since it has a pre-matriculation program for students that are identified ahead of time as "at risk". They are 'brought up to speed' if you will before their other classmates matriculate. Ohhh? Another cover-up??? Please.
Independent studies are de rigeur Mr. Carty. Practically every student on campus takes one or two during Spring and/or Summer over the course of their years at Michigan. WHY? Because it helps fill out the distribution requirements for degrees, it keeps you on campus during a 'chill' time of year, and you get to meet one on one or in small groups with a prof for more individualized support. Hell I took Physics during Spring. Why? Cuz I suck at math so I wanted to take it by itself to maximize my opportunity for success. That, and I didn't have to go back to the 'burbs and live with my folks all summer long.....
My bet is that if you'd have checked the physics department you would have found a large number of physics majors doing indep. studies with a small number of profs. Conspiracy on the part of physics?????? me thinks not.
So, Congratulations Jim Carty super journalist sleuth guy.
For telling us all what we already know and for completely ignoring the zillion other successful athletes in Soccer, Softball, Baseball, Gymnastics, Swimming & Diving, Volleyball, Hockey, Women's BBall, Tennis, XCountry, Track & Field, Golf, Wrestling, Women's Water Polo, Field Hockey and any other varsity sport I've left out....
Can't WAIT to see what super-expose secrets await us tomorrow....
Back to the movies.
Did anyone say North Dallas 40 yet?
- March 17, 2008 8:20 PM
- Tom C said...
Joshua said One of my ex's could do things on a pole that'd make men AND women cry.
Ex? What the hell man! We live vicariously through you, and you let her get away? Look, that whole Alien thing can be ignored.....
- March 17, 2008 8:45 PM
- Tom C said...
Jeezus someone pull T9 offa that guy while there is still breath in him. Girl, you can't beat stupid outa someone. It decays with the corpse.
- March 17, 2008 8:52 PM
- TitleIX said...
Point well taken tom c.
maybe that's why Yost didn't post a thread about it...he knew that yonder f-dragon would get lose and blow the place up.
I'll simmer.
- March 17, 2008 10:27 PM
- Mikoyan said...
Hmmm...In no particular order though
1. Gladiator
2. Major League
3. Slapshot
4. Varsity Blues
5. The Replacements (The English dude taking a cig before going out is classic)
6. The Pride of the Yankees
7. The Program
And not Rudy. I'm sick of all the domer propaganda out there.
- March 17, 2008 10:53 PM
- Out of Conference said...
Good pull on Major League, Mikoyan. That deserves to be up there.
- March 18, 2008 8:35 AM
- kowisja said...
Tell them I'm through. For the love of the game. -- Billy Chapel
For the Love of the Game ranks right behind Bull Durham for a movie you can watch with your girlfriend. Love story, a Tiger throwing a perfect game over the Yankees, what's not to love?
What about the Little Giants?? No love for the Annexation of Puerto Rico?
No one mentioned Rookie of the Year or Little Big League thank god.
- March 18, 2008 1:46 PM
- zen wizard said...
Listening to the writer talk about the concept on sports talk radio, and seeing the trailer, I am going to go out on a limb and say that Leatherheads will probably be up there somewhere.
I don't know about "best movie ever."
It just seems that the concept is really clever.
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Speedo fetish maybe ?
Speedo fetish maybe ?
My most fav picture of Michael Phelps ...
"... and what are YOU doing down there??"
Make perect pair bet they have fun in the locker room.
speedos are wonderful
i often prefer them to nudity
In the first set of pictures- Wonder what Michael's looking at in the first pic and the 4th pic, gotta love those Stanford swimmers, gorgeous and smart.
I love me some speedos !!!
It's threads like these that make me regret having not joined the swim team.
For all sad words of tongue and pen,
The saddest are these, 'It might have been.'
God I love speedos and swimmers!! They're just so hot!
my bf. swims for his school team. when he's wearing his speedo I can hardly contain myself. drives me wild.
I simply love that thread a lot! I always had a thing for hot swimmer bods! Where is the closest pool I need my dose!
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This is such a hot thread. I love speedos and swimmers always have such hot bods!
Is that Chris Mears with 'GBR' on his backside? He's so hot (and hotter that Tom D, in my opinion).
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So today as I was getting ready to meet up with my sister-in-law for a fun little spa day and lunch, I texted one of my friends to tell her happy birthday. I then realized not only was it her birthday, but that today is also my 5 year YouTube anniversary!!!
And my face looked like this...
I would seriously never remember that exact date if it were just any random day, but since it falls on her birthday, I always remember it! It was really a surreal feeling. I absolutely cannot believe it has been that long.
When I uploaded my first video, I had no idea it would become what it has. This fun hobby of mine has turned into so much more for me. It's truly changed my life. YOU guys have truly changed my life.
This post feels very "giveaway-ish", but there's none of that going on here. Just little ol' me saying thanks. I'll try to do something like that soon- But most of you guys know my philosophy on giveaways and how they really work. To me, they're not really that big of a "thank you" for you guys. They really just drive more traffic to my videos or blog. So I don't do it for that reason. I really like doing things that will actually benefit you guys. Unfortunately, giveaways only benefit maybe 5 of you (at the most) out of almost 700 THOUSAND subscribers. Which lets just be honest... You guys know if I could give you guys one of everything I ever talk about in videos each and every time, I totally would and it would make me the happiest ever. But that isn't really possible...haha That's basically why I rarely do those.
So I just wanted to say thank you. Nothing fancy or showy, just simply, thank you. Thank you for all of your support and kind words, all of the comments that brighten my day and have brought me more joy, smiles, and laughter than you will ever know.
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Congrats!!! I hope I make it to the five year mark with half of the success you have had!!! Can't wait for your next video and hope there's another five years of videos to come!!!ReplyDelete
Congrats!! I love your videos!ReplyDelete
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I watch your videos from the beginning. Thanks to you I got really good at applying my makeup, picking out clothes and accessories and who knows maybe I will soon redo our house ;).ReplyDelete
You are a rare talent and an fantastic teacher. I hope you will continue doing your videos for many years. Thank you so much for sharing all your knowledge and experience.
Tiffany, you are an amazing person! I love all of your videos. Stuff that really pertains to beauty and fashion. There are so many youtubers out there nowadays that do more videos of just weird stuff rather than the tutorials that they claim is their main focus. Thank you so much for everything that you do. Congratulations!ReplyDelete
Aww :) Congrats to your 5 years Tiffany - I have had a blast and learned so much from your tutorials and hauls. So many products have been purchased because of you! lol - Thank you!!ReplyDelete
Congrats Tiffany! I have been watching and learning from you for a very long time. SO many products I've purchased because of you :) LOVE it!ReplyDelete
I can't believe it's been five years!! How exciting :)ReplyDelete
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Congratulations!!! I truly hope there is 5 more years. Your videos are some of my favorites. I am having a mini celebration by watching some older videos lol.ReplyDelete
And I do not blame you for not doing any giveaway. I have noticed that they basically bring in new people and then once the giveaway is over people unsubscribe. Not very cool of them. Random side note: I despise it when gurus do those 500 dollar collab giveaways..I appreciate them but at the same time there is always one or two girls that I don't like their videos. Then I end up not entering some amazing giveaway because I won't subscribe just for a giveaway.
Happy anniversary, Tiffany! I love your videos so much, so keep 'em coming! :)ReplyDelete
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See, this is why I continue to watch you. Because your videos are not filled with sponsored crap or numerous giveaways. Instead, they are all truthful and honest makeup/fashion advice. Also, almost very product you have mentioned has worked for me...in fact, I just picked of the Beauty Bite lipstick in Fig today and guess what? I love it!ReplyDelete
Happy anniversary :) Please continue to do what you do.
Congrats! And I've always felt the same way about giveaways. I adore your channel and I'm so happy to still be following 5 years later.ReplyDelete
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Congrats Tiffany! I've been following you for about 2 years now and never miss a video. You are such a sweet and honest girl and you deserve all the success in the world. Here's to 5 more! Have a great weekend with Brad and the handsome Mr. Waylon!ReplyDelete
You're definitely my favorite "beauty guru" hands down and your tutorials, hauls, OOTDs, and even design posts are always something I look for in my queue on YouTube. Can't wait for the next five years <3ReplyDelete
Love all hour videos. I have leared so much from you. And bought most of everything that you love and recommend :) so glad I discovered you on YouTube.ReplyDelete
Yay, congrats for your huge accomplishment! After watching a bunch of your videos, I have two really random questions.ReplyDelete
1) I am curious as to how often you wash your makeup brushes - what soap (if any) do you use?
2) What makeup/techniques would you suggest for people who have some freckles around the nose and cheek area that want a natural look. They always seem to get covered up and I end up feeling like my makeup is caked on. (Recently, I've tried Smashbox bb cream, Clinique tinted moisturizer and bare minerals foundation) and nothing seems to make me look like I don't have makeup on.
Thank you!!
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Tiffany, I would love to see your first video but haven't been able to locate it :/ Would you please post a link? I'm having to post this asReplyDelete
"anonymous" because I can't remember my Google password :/ but I'm not some really creepy old guy. Sorry :/ I love your videos and I especially love to see what you are doing in your house. You have a wonderful style. Happy 5th Anniversary!
So happy and proud of you! Keep up the amazing videos :)ReplyDelete
Happy birthday!!! That is so cool that you have had 5 successful years. Love your videos!ReplyDelete
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Five years, congrats!! I love your videos, you have done such a fantastic job and I am so happy for how you have grown throughout these years. :]ReplyDelete
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Congratulations Tiffany. I am a long time watcher and look forward to your videos. You have come a long way since the beginning. Just wanted to also mention I've been following your latest hair tutorial for curls using the clip curler, and I love it!ReplyDelete
congrats tiffany we love your videos. i especially love makeup tutorials and hauls.ReplyDelete
You should do a giveaway to celebrate!
Congratulations! I love watching your videos (:ReplyDelete
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Congratulations Tiffany! I found your channel less than a year ago and been hooked ever since. I just love, love, love your tutorials, they're clear and easy to follow. I've tried a few of them with fantastic outcome and can't wait to try some more in the future. Also, I've got tips for some fantastic products that will be in my makeup bag forever. I love how you mix beauty with fashion and your home posts give amazing ideas and inspiration. Most importantly I love how genuinely nice person you seem to be and how classy you are. So thank you Tiffany, happy anniversary and many, many more to come! :)ReplyDelete
Congratulations Tiffany :) This is a real success...ReplyDelete
Ohh that great and exciting!! Happy Anniversary!! Keep up the good work :)ReplyDelete
I love your giveaway philosophy =)ReplyDelete
You have truly inspired me so much since I started watching you! It would be simple to let it all get to your head, so the fact that you remain humble throughout all of this unexpected fame is what makes you so beautiful!ReplyDelete
Massive congratulations! You were one of the very first people I subscribed to and I haven't stopped watching your videos ever since. You deserve so much more subscribers! Happy anniversary!ReplyDelete
Laura x
Congrats for you! :)ReplyDelete
congrats! i love your videos!ReplyDelete
xx Stephanie (www.stephaniesstyleblog.blogspot.com)
Congratulations!!! Felicidades!!! I love your videos <3 <3 <3ReplyDelete
I stumbled upon your account when I was first trying to learn how to apply eyeliner a few years ago. I had just decided to make a little foray into cosmetics, and since that first viewing I've been a loyal fan! You've taught me so much -- not just makeup application, but also what to look for in products and to cultivate my own sense of what I want makeup-wise. Of course I've bought products you've recommended, but you've also helped me figure out how to make my own decisions with products. We may not have the same style -- I almost never accessorize for one thing -- but I love yours and it's definitely encouraged me to embrace my own particular path. Thank you! It's belated, but congratulations on five years; I'm excited to be watching for the next five!ReplyDelete
Congratulations!! I actually don't like entering giveaways and I really like that you don't do them. You have such great quality content on your channel and blog, so glad I started following you! :)ReplyDelete
Congratulations! I just started my blog last month so I can't imagine what it will be like 5 years from now. Congrats again!ReplyDelete
Congratulations Tiffany :)ReplyDelete
Best wished from the very heart of Moscow
congrats dear we love you n will always do :)ReplyDelete
Happy 5th Tiffany! Since you live in Atlanta, I have a couple questions about life there. I would really love to go to Emory, but when I visited last spring, it seemed like the campus was cut off by highway. Is this really the case? Also, while walking around downtown with my dad in the afternoon, we both felt really unsafe. It's really disappointing because everything about Emory is perfect except I'm not so sure about Atlanta. I would really appreciate if you responded! Thanks, and congratulations!ReplyDelete
Congrats, Tiffany! I have been watching your videos since you started out five years ago. You are one of the few Gurus I always go back to. You seem like a really nice, down to earth person and you should stay that way. Don't get too caught up in your fame like some other YT Gurus do. I've noticed some think they are A List celebrities. You, on the other hand, are sweet and genuine and that's what people love about you.ReplyDelete
Keep up the good work. :) <3
Congrats Tiffany! Still loving each video you upload.ReplyDelete


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i know i am not the only one totally turned on by this, but DAMN i love the sight of a totally hairless asshole, its just so much better for rimming. i could spend hours eating a nice clean hairless ass hole
i know i am not the only one totally turned on by this, but DAMN i love the sight of a totally hairless asshole, its just so much better for rimming. i could spend hours eating a nice clean hairless ass hole
Hair is a real turn off for me.
yeah, a totally hairless butt, crack and hole is hot, and warrants probing with my eyes, fingers, nose, tongue and dick...hella hot, but difficult to accomplish. That is, there are very, very few that occur naturally, and it is difficult to get it all. Recently was with a latino boy who had shaved, and had a very few "sprouts" right around his hole, which I was able to clean up for him, as he was on all fours, with his ass cheeks spread for me.....woof.
i prefer an asian shit hole cause it's normally smooth-
Hairless makes more enjoyment with getting some floss in the teeth. Best of make sure those home good and clean for better pleasures.
I love the feeling of a smooth ass and hole! Like to keep mine shaved a lot of the time, here's some pics for you
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i love seeing a hairless smooth hole, and i love having one! i shave and lotion my bottom a lot to keep it in nice condition
Smooth boys are where it's at. Right now I'm fucking this cute asian twink who takes more time than any woman I know to shave all his body hair. Kind of a contrast, since I'm a bear.
I prefer for a guys cheeks to be hairy, not overly thou, but his pinky should be "CLEAN
one of the worst tragedies in life is being forgotten by some one you can never forget!
I had one till I woz 12 now my shitter is real hairy!!!
been shaving my ass and all since I was 15.. love a buttery smooth hole..
Absolutely.... The first ass i ever rimmed - cuz it seemed like a natural progression from cock to hairless balls to smooth hole - was also the most perfect ass I've ever seen: Narrow hips, firm bubble-buns, well-cleaved crack always open & "aired-out"... and everything hairless, right down to the perfectly round, tight, unwrinkled boy-hole. <sighhhh>
He was one of the rare ones; his whole body was smooth, and he was hardly even shaving his face when I last saw him at age 35. And as far as spending hours with "my cheeks between his cheeks", I literally slept in that beautiful butt the last time we got together before he moved to Tennessee...
Here's a few from the personal collection. We played with this friend 4 times, each time hotter than the last. Unfortunately, he lives an ocean (literally) away from us, so we don't see him very often. He would shave his whole body just for us and he has an awesome cock and ass. He loved to have his hot ass rimmed and loved to stuff his fat cock down our throats. I sure miss that!
I keep my hole and pubes shaved. I have been told that they, the top, is glad I am shaved for that very reason.
I think hair is not sanitary
Looks better and feels nicer to touch.
Plus it's more hygienic. Dirt and bacteria stick more to hair than skin.