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Tuesday, December 12, 2006
The Zonies
Some category/nominee ideas are:
* Post of the Year
* Best Regular Feature (Know Your Foe? Your Life vs. College Life? MZone Caption Contest? BCS?)
* Funniest Photoshop
Also, since this site would just be basically like public emails between between Benny and me if not for you, the loyal MZone reader, we want to give props to those that tune in each day. Thus, what are some "reader categories?" For instance:
* Best commentor?
* Best comments
* HT of the Year
* Most loyal reader
Anyway, you get the idea. Those are just the ones off the top of our noggins. Leave us your suggestions.
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I think Matt the Ohio State fan should get nominated for his numerous posts pretending to be a Michigan fan. Lame, I know. Do I need a life? Yes. But, I love reading some of the comments I get back from you guys, for instance:
I once earned "MZone Dumb Comment of the Week" on October 24, 2006 with this post:
"If we lose to tOSU again i really think Lloyd should get the boot. Tressel has no trouble beating us at our place, and this year when the two teams are seemingly equal in talent/experience defensively and offensively, there will be no excuse for losing.. except Lloyd."
I got an entire post about that one. I was pretty jacked, needless to say.
It would be cool to see an award for "Most Loyal Buckeye Fan on a Michigan Blog," even tho I'm probably not even a finalist.
Yost, I give you tons of shit, but I do enjoy your blog (even tho you get under my skin when you criticize our fan base). Keep it up, go Big10, beat SC.
- December 11, 2006 12:23 AM
- Yost said...
And we appreciate you reading.
And your post idea is a great one re: Buck on MZone.
- December 11, 2006 12:25 AM
Best Cheerleader turned Porn Star
- December 11, 2006 2:28 AM
- Reed4AU said...
The funniest photoshop is hands down the "Touchdown Mohammed" piece. Although even as an alum I found the
mutant Auburn mascot hybrids hilarious.
I like to see the award for best felony commited by a person with a buckstache.
How about one awarding the best post making a ridiculous arguement. Maybe one that tries to argue that a team who almost lost at home to Ball St.(BALL FREAKIN STATE!!!!!!) deserved a shot at the national title.
That said, love the site and hope it's around for years to come.
- December 11, 2006 2:49 AM
Living here in the south, the best article to ridiculewas the piece on Bama rehiring Bear Bryant. I went to a Christmas party Friday night, and had to go to a computer in the house it was in to show a Bama fan what the rest of the world was thinking with that piece. That was the best photoshop too, unless the Bear is really coming back. Then I guess it is just the best prediction and you guys have scooped everyone.
You & EDSBS have the best blogs on the internet by far. I hope you beat SC and the Big 10/11 can go undefeated in the bowls. Thanks for many good laughs, even at tOSU's expense.
- December 11, 2006 8:21 AM
I nominate Titleix for being the best sport on here. I for one have skirted the line of sexist pig with some of my comments, you guys have the real BCS bowl, the ASU cheerleader post, etc. and she's been a real trooper. I mean for a chick and all, her posts are usually pretty good, too.
I also think a funny category would be or the blog that received the most comments in a specific time (like in a day, or 12-hrs), and the longest running blog (what blog still has comments, months after it was written.
- December 11, 2006 8:35 AM
I suggest an awards category for "Best use of 'pants' in moniker...Of course, it would probably be won by that Pants O'Pants again...HATE that guy...
- December 11, 2006 9:09 AM
Best Ohio State recruiting video.... uh guys, thanks for that one.
Keep up the great work. I love your site and it's one of my regular reads.
- December 11, 2006 11:35 AM
I agree with Andy on the video, but somebody get a hottie from Michigan to pony up and outdo the girl from the BuckStache, I mean Buckeye state. Where's the hunch punch when you need it, come on guys!!!
- December 11, 2006 12:46 PM
pants mcpants-I don't know about pants o'pants winning it this year. I think Baggy Pants Devil got that award on lock. :)
- December 11, 2006 12:59 PM
reed4au...since the title game includes one team that almost lost to vanderbilt and another that almost lost to illinois, i don't think youve got much of a point there...
- December 11, 2006 1:32 PM
I think we need to nominate Anonymous for his dedication to this site. I see him here everyday, commenting like nobody's business. He always has something funny, mean, and sometimes ignorant to say...but he always says it! You gotta respect that.
Anonymous for poster of the year!
- December 11, 2006 1:41 PM
no question about it. The funniest thing I've ever seen on here were the coaches Halloween costumes. I literally laughed out loud when I scrolled down to the Weis picture.
Great stuff. Keep up the good work.
- December 11, 2006 2:05 PM
There having a "College Football Blogger Awards 2006"
Check it out: Kinda like what you all said but everyone.
- December 11, 2006 3:39 PM
There that might work.
- December 11, 2006 3:40 PM
Just go to:
you can find it there.
- December 11, 2006 3:41 PM
- Kirbdaddy said...
Give Clooney a Zonie for Biggest Douchebag on the Planet!!!
- December 11, 2006 4:03 PM
- TitleIX said...
Hey Jim! Thanks for the kind words. I hope, however, that having a girl around doesn't spoil the 'fun'.... I wouldn't want to limit the frivolity.
And thanks too for the Chick-And-All remark! Makes me feel smart, even tho I'm limited by all those eggs and all.....
No, in all seriousness, to Yost, Benny and all the Boys--thanks for always illiciting some kind of response from me: laughter, head-shaking, disbelief, competitiveness, or just plain joy. I LOVE Michigan football and I am glad that I found this clever bunch!
My offer for "best of"s?
photoshop: Pete Carroll's Halloween Costume
tattoo: Bear Bryant guy
video: "you're my Brady" SOUND OFF!
ohio lover: srudoff
blog ID picture: it's a tie--dreamy Benny and the Winged Helmet of Andy
best feature: Know Your Foe
cheerleaders: Texas Chap Girls
most annoying: ANY and ALL ANONS FROM OHIO
erudite: SiC
perhaps even a Darwin-like award?? You know, the post regarding a really stupid event likely to lead to extinction????
- December 11, 2006 6:30 PM
Titleix: I personally don't see how you crimp our style. In fact, you've moved up a notch or two based on the fact that your fav cheerleaders are the Texas Chap Girls.
Put me in the not going to be nominated for the 'erudite list'. I had to look up the word.
- December 11, 2006 6:46 PM
Best announcer, Ron Franklin.
- December 11, 2006 7:30 PM
- Andy said...
mmmm chaps....
- December 11, 2006 8:11 PM
- srudoff said...
Thanks TitleIX!
I would also like to nominate myself for funniest prank this year when I posted the Big Ten Academic All American Winners and congratulated all Michigan and Ohio State winners. Oh I posted it with the user name "yost" with a link to his profile so it looked like the real yost posted it (except of course his pic was missing). People here were saying "uhh yost, there were no Michigan players on that list...."
I thought it was pretty funny myself :-)
- December 11, 2006 8:49 PM
- yost said...
That's the LAST time that will happen :(
- December 11, 2006 8:50 PM
- Andy said...
Best video: Ohio State recruiting video
Best photoshop: Pete Carroll halloween costume
Best Post: WolverMarine
Most Valuable buckeye: Srudoff
Least Valuable buckeye: Anonymous
Favorite buckeye pep band member: Josh Wyrick
Fav cheerleader: Courtney Simpson
Assclown: Gary Danielson
- December 11, 2006 8:53 PM
Best looking Michigan cheerleader.
- December 11, 2006 9:47 PM
I vote for Srudoff, too, for alien Buckeye MVP
Damn.. I wish I would've thought of using the license plate picture first
- December 11, 2006 10:49 PM
- TitleIX said...
yeah, so instead you ripped the helmet idea.....
I'm just sayin' mattosu
- December 12, 2006 9:29 AM
What about a category hardest word verification word, like iqgvujil
- December 12, 2006 9:37 AM
i can't win...
the helmet is a more generic picture, like if you were to use a US women's soccer team logo instead of Brandy Chastain. ok with that?
- December 12, 2006 12:20 PM
I can't win...
The helmet is a more generic picture, like if you were to use a US women's soccer team logo instead of Brandy Chastain. ok with that?
- December 12, 2006 12:21 PM
- December 12, 2006 12:22 PM
- srudoff said...
alien Buckeye MVP?
please explain!
- December 12, 2006 1:13 PM
- TitleIX said...
I'm looking for creativity here man....perhaps using a picture of the OSU band doing their dance instaed?
rather than the helmet.
kinda like the buckstache license plater...been there done/that
no worries.
- December 12, 2006 6:15 PM
"Alien" as in "foreigner" because we belong to the Buckeyes and we're in Michigan territory..
and MVP as in.. well that's obvious.
I think I'm going to put up a Mike Doss picture now because of all this pressure.
- December 12, 2006 9:12 PM

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If Congress fails to agree on a budget plan by March 1, visitors to the Carl Sandburg Home, Blue Ridge Parkway and other national park units will face a very different experience than what they're used to, according to National Park Service Director Jon Jarvis.
If Congress fails to agree on a budget plan by March 1, visitors to the Carl Sandburg Home, Blue Ridge Parkway and other national park units will face a very different experience than what they're used to, according to National Park Service Director Jon Jarvis.
In a Jan. 25 memo to regional directors leaked by a group of retired NPS employees, Jarvis detailed steps the park service must take if "sequestration" kicks in, triggering across-the-board cuts for all federal agencies, including a mandatory 5 percent bite from the NPS' budget.
"We expect that a cut of this magnitude, intensified by the lateness of the implementation, will result in reductions to visitor services, hours of operation, shortening of seasons and possibly the closing of areas during periods when there is insufficient staff to ensure the protection of visitors, employees, resources and government access," Jarvis wrote.
The leaked memo was posted on a website for the nonprofit Coalition of National Park Service Retirees.
At the Carl Sandburg Home National Historic Site in Flat Rock, sequestration would result in the loss of $62,000 from the park's $1.2 million annualized 2013 budget, according to the leaked documents. The Blue Ridge Parkway would have to cut $784,000 from its $15.6 million budget, which experts say would seriously hamper operation of the nation's most-visited park.
"We're definitely at the point here where the ability of parks to stay open and function for the public is in jeopardy," said Don Barger, southeast regional director for the National Parks Conservation Association. "This isn't trimming fat along the edges. If you look at these kinds of cuts, they're going to be pretty draconian."
Barger estimates that North Carolina's parks will lose roughly $2.5 million if sequestration kicks in. Great Smoky Mountains National Park would take the biggest hit, losing $944,000 out of its $18.8 million budget.
Jarvis' memo directed park officials to immediately halt hiring of permanent employees (those in progress can continue) and to delay employment offers to seasonal workers, despite the fact that this is when the hiring process typically begins.
That's a particularly hard blow for the Parkway, which had the equivalent of 240 full-time positions in 2005 but is now getting by with around 170 thanks to previous belt-tightening. The remaining staff is spread along 469 miles of Parkway, serving 14 visitor contact facilities, nine campgrounds, 16 picnic areas and 150-200 restroom stops.
"It requires a lot of seasonal or part-time staff to keep them all operating and making it a special place that visitors want to return to," said Dan Brown, a Weaverville resident who served as the Parkway's superintendent from 2000 to 2005. "This (5 percent cut) would probably require significantly reducing the number of seasonal employees in the park and could result in the closure of facilities, including visitor centers."
Barger said the first $600,000 of the Parkway's annual budget usually goes to hire seasonal workers.
"If they take $784,000 out, how are they going to staff the 14 visitor contact stations along the Parkway? They've only got eight permanent staff for those facilities," he said.
Brown said the Parkway itself will likely remain open even if sequestration occurs, but "critical services" such as litter pickup, trail maintenance, mowing, restroom cleanup and park interpretation such as campfire talks, historic craft demonstrations and nature hikes would likely be curtailed.
"If you look at a 5 percent cut, some really hard decisions have to be made that not only potentially impact the resource, but could quite likely demonstrate a significant impact on the visitor experience," Brown said.
That could have repercussions on local economies, he said, since the Parkway funnels an estimated $2 billion into communities along its route.
"The Parkway is a great recreational getaway and it's a relatively inexpensive vacation for families," Brown said. "But my suspicion is they might look at other recreational opportunities if they don't get the experience they're accustomed to getting."
If across-the-board cuts are triggered by congressional inaction, Barger agreed the economic impacts will extend to surrounding communities.
"This is going to affect, literally, billions of dollars that flow into our regional economy as a result of the operations of these parks," he said.
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A Google report of the top search terms of 2012 offers insight into the uncensored exercise interests of the Australian public. The top 10 "how-to" searches included how to kegel, handstand and twerk. Kegels are pelvic-floor exercises, while twerking is "a dance move that involves a person shaking their hips and bottom in a sexually provocative manner".
None of these manoeuvres, however, made the top 10 (or even 20) anticipated trends for 2013, according to an international survey of close to 4000 fitness professionals.
Published in the current issue of the American College of Sports Medicine Health and Fitness Journal, the top predicted trend was the need for "certified, educated fitness professionals".
Gold Coast-based Mireille Ryan, the 2010 exercise professional of the year and owner of Health Guru boot camps, says the trend is largely irrelevant to Australians. "In the US, certification is less regulated than it is here," she says. "Here it's a given and Fitness Australia is the main regulator."
Trend No. 2, on the other hand, which is strength training, is highly relevant to us.
"It's so important for everyday usage," Ryan says. "Squats aren't just for tight butts, they're for functional movements, like getting out of cars and sitting on the loo. They are also important for preventing injury."
Another type of strength training, body-weight training, made the No. 3 spot. It's the first time it has appeared in the survey, now in its seventh year. Along with functional fitness, which came in at eighth place on the list, body-weight exercises mark a return to an inexpensive yet equally effective approach to fitness, says Walkley Award-winning health writer Paula Goodyer.
"I personally love the new emphasis on body-weight exercises and functional exercises because once you have the technique right you can do them anywhere, any time, not necessarily in a gym," she says. "Strength training just goes from . . . strength to strength."
The owner of Sydney's Bottoms Up! Social Fitness, Libby Babet, agrees. "The most interesting thing about these trends is the dramatic rise in popularity of do-anywhere home workouts, body-weight training, functional strength workouts and 'play'-focused fitness [such as former fad Zumba and rising trend twerking, a term derived from "to work" the body as in dancing]," she says. "It's a return to the days before going to the gym became a serious business and I think it's great because, all of a sudden, getting fit is achievable, fun and explorative."
This element of fun is essential for engaging both big kids and little kids alike in the long term. Tackling obesity and fitness levels in children was high on the trend list at No. 4, up from No. 5 last year.
"This is the first generation of people who will die before their parents from preventable illnesses," Ryan says. Fitness "is dropping more and more out of the curriculum and it really needs to be a part of the curriculum . . . but it's got to be fun".
Having said that, she points out the No. 1 priority must be health, and good health is a combination of nutrition and physical fitness. Professionals are recognising this and incorporating exercise into nutrition-based weight-loss regimes. Exercise and weight loss came in at No. 5 on the list, gradually rising from its previous ranking of 18 in 2009, 12 in 2010 and seven in 2011. With 63 per cent of Australian adults overweight, its increasing importance makes sense.
The next trend is also particularly pertinent for Australians, given we enjoy one of the highest life expectancies in the world (79.5 years for males and 84 for females).
Programs for older adults feature at sixth place on the survey. It is an important trend given we have an ageing population and that, according to the results of a recent study published in the Physician and Sportsmedicine journal, loss of lean muscle mass is not inevitable in older people. Contrary to popular belief, it can be maintained through exercise.
That's regular exercise through one-on-one or group personal training, if the trends at Nos. 7 and 10 are anything to go by. Worth about $400 million annually in Australia alone, personal training has grown at a rate of about 5 per cent a year in the past five years.
"Personal trainers have to go beyond just 'training' these days," Babet says.
"True recreation time is at a premium for people, and exercise is now being viewed as a personal escape or a bit of 'downtime'. People . . . want to work their bodies but they're also looking for a release, so creating a unique, stimulating experience is a skill personal trainers will really need to acquire in years to come.
"I don't think group training will ever leave this list – there's nothing like getting sweaty with a bunch of like-minded people all focused on a common goal."
Trend No. 9 on the list is core training. While Pilates, along with balance training and stability balls, is not among the top 20 trends, which could imply they were little more than fads, Ryan says their absence is more a reflection of terminology.
"It's about marketing and perception," she says.
"Pilates is all about core training. They'll just come up with some groovy new name."
Goodyer, however, believes "ACSM are on the money" and that "Pilates is probably plateauing".
As for trends that didn't make ACSM's list, Ryan says mindset training, which addresses the emotional reasons why people eat badly and don't take care of themselves, will be a growth area in the years to come. And she doesn't think we should be too quick to dismiss twerking. "Zumba's done its dash . . . but, the next thing you know, people will be twerking all over the place," Ryan says.
Babet and Goodyer, who also predicts the continuing rise of interval training, concur. "Dance classes are definitely on the rise," says Babet. "They're here to stay. It's a way for people to express creativity and use parts of their brain they might not be accessing during a busy, hassle-filled day."
Top 10 fitness predictions for 2013
1. Certified, educated fitness professionals.
2. Strength training.
3. Body weight training.
4. Children and obesity.
5. Exercise and weight loss.
6. Fitness programs for older adults.
7. Personal training.
8. Functional fitness.
9. Core training.
10. Group personal training.
Source: American College of Sports Medicine


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Animal Path Pein (S) is one of the six paths of Pein. This Path is able to summon a variety of different beasts for different purposes. Original Design: KostasRequirement to unlock: Mission: Animal Path
Cerberus Hydra
Animal Path Pein summons a giant multiple headed dog that deals 30 damage to one enemy. The following 2 turns any enemy that uses a skill will be dealt 15 piercing damage.
Cooldown: 1
Chakra required:
Classes: Physical, Melee, Action
Drill Bird
Animal Path Pein summons a giant drill-beaked bird to assault one enemy, dealing 15 damage to them for 3 turns.
Cooldown: 3
Chakra required:
Classes: Physical, Ranged, Action
Invisible Chameleon
Animal Path Pein summons a chameleon that is able to become invisible to hide himself. For 4 turns Animal Path Pein will ignore enemy stun effects and gains 50% damage reduction.
Cooldown: 3
Chakra required:
Classes: Physical, Instant
Panda Defense
This skill makes Animal Path Pein invulnerable for 1 turn.
Cooldown: 4
Chakra required:
Classes: Physical, Instant
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"Keeping variety Alive"
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Frankenchrist Trial Ends In Hung Jury
(Jeffrey Ressner, Rolling Stone - October 1987)
The two-week trial of former Dead Kennedys vocalist Jello Biafra ended on August 27th in a victory for the singer when a Los Angeles jury was unable to reach a verdict. Biafra and Michael Bonanno, the former manager of Biafra's record label, Alternative Tentacles, were charged with distributing harmful matter to a minor. It was apparently the first court case to scrutinize the contents of a rock album. The jurors deliberated a little more than a day before declaring themselves stalemated, causing the judge to declare a mistrial and throw out the case. The charges followed a consumer complaint about a poster of disembodied sex organs included in the Dead Kennedys' 1985 album Frankenchrist.
The insert was reproduced from a painting by artist H.R. Giger called "Penis Landscape". The singer's defense was that the poster was both a liters and a figurative illustration of "people screwing each other over" and therefore an integral element of the entire LP's concept, which featured songs about political corruption, unemployment, racism and poverty.
The prosecutor, deputy city attorney Micheal Guarino, termed the inclusion of the poster "absolutely irresponsible." During the trial, Guarino even compared Giger to Richard Ramirez, the suspected "night stalker" serial killer.
Despite the charges - which could have netted the singer a year in jail and a $2000 fine if he had been convicted - the mood at the trial was anything but somber. During several key moments of testimony, howling screams from child custody battles in the next room reverberated through the court. Young Dead Kennedys fans piled into the viewing area daily, sporting black leather jackets, biker boots and buzz-cut hair styles. And on the final day in court, a defense lawyer took a picture of Guarino with a phony camera that had a pop-out penis.
Following the dismissal of the charges, a jubilant Biafra let out a scream of joy, then autographed copies of the poster and album for the jurors. Continued on next page.


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Hot on the heels of the full-length Audacity Of Hype, the Guantanamo School of Medicine- featuring Ralph Spight (Victims Family, Freak Accident, Hellworms), Jon Weiss (Sharkbait, Horsey), Billy Gould (Faith No More), & Kimo Ball (Freak Accident, Carneyball Johnson, Mol Triffid, Griddle)- roar back with these ferocious tracks!
The band's twin guitar attack retains some of the space-punk overtones and spy-music-on-meth chaos of Dead Kennedys while adding a healthy dose of Detroit style proto-punk, flavored with Weiss' industrial excursions into metal percussion.
This is Jello Biafra's 1st full-time band since Dead Kennedys broke up in 1986, and it shows in the depth and breadth of Jello's musical chops and lyrical triumphs on these five originals and his reworking of the Deviants classic "Metamophosis Exploration."
Art by Jim Altieri and Michel Langevin (of VOIVOD)! Mixed & recorded by long-time Biafra co-conspirator Matt Kelley, whose other work includes Victim's Family, The Coup, Digital Underground, Hieroglyphics, Jello & The Melvins, and the 1st Jello & Guantanamo School of Medicine.
Enhanced Methods Of Questioning by Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School Of Medicine
"Jello and his band have outdone themselves on Enhanced Methods of Questioning, and will have fans salivating to see what they do on their next full-length."- Ground Control (this is a VERY edited version of this excellent, in-depth review)
"Jello Biafra is a hard guy to pin down. For all his spoken word, thickly worded records, and willingness to utilize press, his persona is as much clouded by his information dispersal as it is defined. Fascinatingly, on Jello Biafra and the Guantanamo School of Medicine's second release, Enhanced Methods of Questioning, Biafra reveals himself through the works of other artists.
Enhanced Methods of Questioning picks up where the group's debut LP left off. Biafra howls at conservatives, yuppies, and corrupt government officials while the band supports his unique tone with muscular, fast-paced hardcore riffs that at times, approach a thrash metal cadence. Much like Biafra's second record with the Melvins, on this release, because the band defined themselves with their first release, they allow themselves a little more rein to get freakier...- punknews.org (this is a VERY edited version of this punknews.org review. What is it about the Guantanamo School of Medicine that makes people react at length to it? We don't know, but we like it!
"With six songs, this second official release from punk all-stars Jello Biafra And The Guantanamo School Of Medicine offers up more of the proto-punk fringe craziness of their 2009 full-length debut, The Audacity of Hype. Naturally, everything Biafra lends his voice to ends up sounding like the Dead Kennedys, and this project is no different. Musically, it's kind of like Death (the Detroit one, not the metal one) meets the DKs, which, as you can imagine, it totally awesome."- Aux
"Technically an EP, Methods Of Questioning feels like and LP - there's a solidity here that escapes many other bands over a span of twice as many songs." - ThePunkSite.com


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Friday, February 22, 2008
You bought the ring. You got tickets to the game. Your girlfriend - the woman of your dreams, the person you want to start a family and grow old with - is sitting next to you and has no idea tonight is the night.
Best of all, somehow you managed to pull a few strings so you can propose to her during halftime. On national TV.
This is going to be awesome! Talk about something to tell the kids some day!
The time comes. You drop to your knee at mid-court and...
And how 'bout the timing of the stadium horn after she turns him down? It's like the time keeper was chiming in to add insult to injury. "SIT DOWN, BITCH! YOU GOT FAAAACED!"
Plus, as if it could even get worse, as 23/6 said in their post on the story, to have to be consoled by the mascot as you do the walk of shame off the court?! Ouch!
Folks, this one is going sting for a looooong time.
39 comments:
- Maize said...
She only used him to have him pay for her implants. Sucka!
- February 21, 2008 1:22 AM
- srudoff said...
Was that Turtle from Entourage? :)
- February 21, 2008 1:27 AM
- jcloverboi said...
I love that as the announcers are feeling sorry for the guy the camera pans to Tracy McGrady, who is chuckling all the while. That's ice-cold, T-Mac!
Anyone else notice that someone hands him a beer just as he leaves the court? "Sorry you just got rejected on national television--aw hell, this Bud's on me."
- February 21, 2008 2:27 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
T-H-E-R-A-P-Y, find out what it means to me...
Apologies to Aretha.
- February 21, 2008 8:31 AM
- Joshua said...
Gotta be a hoax- that girl has theatre chick written all over her. Notice how she kept looking in the exact spot the camera was? I call bullshit.
Hey Whets, I have something for you, it just hasn't made it's way to the post office yet- sorry man.
- February 21, 2008 8:52 AM
- Hemlock Philosopher said...
"I choo choo chose you"
Visions of Ralph Wiggum come to mind when Lisa rejected.
- February 21, 2008 8:56 AM
- phillip said...
True, she was looking right at the camera... but she did know that at center court, there were cameras all over her, so I'm not so sure if she was pulling one over by looking at one of the cameras that was right on her.
The run out the tunnel, for her, though, is an instant classic. Love the way the cheereaders were just staring at her.
- February 21, 2008 9:23 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
Haha srudoff I was about to write the same thing!
- February 21, 2008 9:24 AM
- Feelin' Blue said...
I can't stand when people propose in public like that. It's cheesy and it puts both of them in danger of getting embarrassed. Well, it finally happened.
The exception to this was Ian Johnson proposing after the Fiesta Bowl. It was the perfect ending to one of the best football games of all time. He gets the game-winning TD and the girl.
- February 21, 2008 9:31 AM
- Joshua said...
Man, if it's true I feel for the guy- the money would've been better spent hiring a midget clown to follow him for two weeks and hit him in the junk with a wiffle ball bat at random, intermittent points in time.
That having been said, if you're gonna go the ultra-classy proposal-at-center-court route and hope she'll let you get married in the drive thru at Hot 'N Now you better be damn sure she'll say yes.
- February 21, 2008 9:33 AM
- west texas blue said...
I'm pretty sure for the last few years a different NBA team has had this hoax during or around Feb 14th time
- February 21, 2008 10:00 AM
- Doug said...
I agree with feelin' blue. You don't do the public-proposal-in-front-of-a-stadium-full-of-people thing unless you're 100-percent positive beyond a shadow of a doubt that she's going to say yes.
That said, I still feel sorry for the guy, and I hope his buddies at least took him to a strip club and bought him a few lap dances after the game.
- February 21, 2008 10:22 AM
- Nate said...
That sucks for him, but I feel like these sporting event proposal guys deserve to get rejected every once in a while. No one else in attendance cares whether you get married or not. They just want the timeout to hurry up and be over. GET OFF THE COURT!
- February 21, 2008 11:36 AM
- Eric said...
You know what the best part of this was? I WAS THERE. I actually witnessed it. And it was brutal.
- February 21, 2008 12:04 PM
- Joshua said...
I was actually the guy doing the proposing. Just in case anyone needs to know- the White Castle on
Washtenaw is now available on June 3rd.
- February 21, 2008 12:10 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
"...the White Castle on
Washtenaw is now available on June 3rd."
Ahahahaha. Classic thread-bundling.
Got the message on the Post Office.
- February 21, 2008 12:25 PM
- TitleIX said...
Uh, what did she think was going on when they got out to center court???
Either she is a complete bitch/moron/evil soul or the whole thing was staged.
I mean, SERIOUSLY!?
Your boyfriend says we are going out to half court and you don't think that something is fishy and put a stop to it before it goes too far???
Or you DO suspect something is up and then let it play out like that???
that's just evil.
and my word verification?
- February 21, 2008 12:35 PM
- Vadatripp said...
Complete hoax. And a bad actress to boot (though she's got some curves). I'm guessing the guy was hoping to get enough sympathy to get into the locker room after the game.
Doesn't look like McGrady had much sympathy, though.
- February 21, 2008 12:52 PM
- Eric said...
So fake. Arenas have been doing this bit FOR YEARS.
Years, I tells ya!
- February 21, 2008 1:47 PM
- Joshua said...
just figured that was you and the diamond wasn't big enough.
- February 21, 2008 2:08 PM
- ohio_guy said...
I like how one of the announcers said "Oh, he should be over this sometime in the next 10-12 years..."
- February 21, 2008 2:24 PM
- intellidouche said...
I think it would be funny if a guy made this huge arrangement where everybody thought he was gonna propose to his girl on the court during a timeout. But instead he goes out to mid court and takes a huge dump.
Yeah, that'd be funny.
- February 21, 2008 3:37 PM
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- February 21, 2008 4:26 PM
- Joshua said...
Time for a Reader's Choice comment, you get to choose!
A. That slenderizing belt is for well-endowed women who have small waists. If that young lady didn't wear it the shirt would fall straight down, thereby giving her the appearance of being a fairly hefty lass.
B. Damn that belt makes her funbags look huge!
- February 21, 2008 4:38 PM
- zen wizard said...
- February 21, 2008 4:43 PM
- zen wizard said...
Oh--sorry I took my smartass--er, I mean, witty comment off because the Word Verification was so COOL...now I left you hangin' with a blog sequitur...my bad Joshua!
I think I said something about, "She's hot now but looks like a chick who will pork out in a couple years..."
The people that said that this was staged might be on to something--she does a one-take RIGHT into the camera that would make Shemp--but perhaps not Larry--Stooge envious of her thespian talents.
And speaking of "...bian talents," maybe it's better he found out now!!
- February 21, 2008 4:50 PM
- Catie said...
If it was not a hoax, then the girl is a bitch. Seriously, say YES to save the guy from the horrible embarrassment, THEN clue him in, in private!
- February 21, 2008 4:54 PM
- TitleIX said...
no blood diamonds
not my style joshua
- February 21, 2008 6:44 PM
- goat7ed said...
near the end the announcer says, ...little prank here the night before Valentine's..."
If it wasn't, then that would have been the appropriate time for the guy to use the microphone to announce, "I should have asked your sister instead since she is so much better in bed than you."
- February 21, 2008 7:30 PM
- Chris in NC said...
I am going with staged in this one. She made a bee line to the opposite *players* exit he went to. Just like they rehearsed. Most people exit out the public exit. Where she went, only team personnel and performers go.
If it was real, you would think they would both head back at least in the direction they came, where their seats were.
- February 21, 2008 7:58 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
Chris in nc,
Where were you and your detective level skills when Duke was lynching its lacrosse players?
- February 22, 2008 12:35 AM
- WillinSacto said...
To think our s*itty announcers Grant Napear and Jerry Reynolds here in Sacramento called this gem, which BTW I was watching. I couldn't help think at the time that only in Texas!
- February 22, 2008 11:06 AM
- jasylonian said...
hrm. i like grant napear and jerry reynolds. admittedly, grant can get fairly obnoxious at times, but i've always thought that he called a pretty good game.
i'm calling staged, but i kinda wish it wasn't.
- February 22, 2008 7:50 PM
- Chris in NC said...
I was here in Salisbury, NC managing my databases and watching the show like everyone else was. Unfortunately, it didn't surprise anyone. NC courts are as corrupt as hell. Everyone knew about 4 weeks into it that 1, it was BS, 2, it was going to end poorly for the D.A. and 3, that it would take a while because we knew once the politics hit it, it would be forever before someone admitted mistakes.
- February 22, 2008 11:09 PM
- Paulie Buckeyes said...
Big ups to the guy who gave him the beer coming off the court. Classy move.
- February 22, 2008 11:57 PM
- IamCris said...
The rest of the story...
it seems Bertha (married) tried her hand at internet dating and after several outings with Jeffery was taken by complete surprise at halfcourt of the Houston game...
- February 23, 2008 9:12 PM
- OldManUfer said...
Magic 2005 - http://www.local6.com/sports/4199099/detail.html
Wizards 2004 -
There are more...don't have the time.
- February 27, 2008 11:54 AM
- OldManUfer said...
Let's try that again...
Magic 2005
Wizards 2004 (video)
- February 27, 2008 11:56 AM
- Frankly, Scarlett said...
Ok so if she doesnt have enough tact to NOT wear a plastic silver belt or to trim her bangs, she certainly doesnt have enough to say 'yes' on national television and then give the ring back when they're in the car!
- February 28, 2008 2:03 PM


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Draw some quadrilaterals on a 9-point circle and work out the angles. Is there a theorem?
A picture is made by joining five small quadrilaterals together to make a large quadrilateral. Is it possible to draw a similar picture if all the small quadrilaterals are cyclic?
A circle has centre O and angle POR = angle QOR. Construct tangents at P and Q meeting at T. Draw a circle with diameter OT. Do P and Q lie inside, or on, or outside this circle?
An equilateral triangle is sitting on top of a square. What is the radius of the circle that circumscribes this shape?
Find the missing angle between the two secants to the circle when the two angles at the centre subtended by the arcs created by the intersections of the secants and the circle are 50 and 120 degrees.
The circumcentres of four triangles are joined to form a quadrilateral. What do you notice about this quadrilateral as the dynamic image changes? Can you prove your conjecture?
Points D, E and F are on the the sides of triangle ABC. Circumcircles are drawn to the triangles ADE, BEF and CFD respectively. What do you notice about these three circumcircles?
ABCD is a square. P is the midpoint of AB and is joined to C. A line from D perpendicular to PC meets the line at the point Q. Prove AQ = AD.
Two semi-circles (each of radius 1/2) touch each other, and a semi-circle of radius 1 touches both of them. Find the radius of the circle which touches all three semi-circles.
In a right angled triangular field, three animals are tethered to posts at the midpoint of each side. Each rope is just long enough to allow the animal to reach two adjacent vertices. Only one animal. . . .
Can you find triangles on a 9-point circle? Can you work out their angles?
What is the relationship between the angle at the centre and the angles at the circumference, for angles which stand on the same arc? Can you prove it?
What is the same and what is different about these circle questions? What connections can you make?
This set of resources for teachers offers interactive environments which support work on properties of angles in circles at Key Stage 4.
Can you make a right-angled triangle on this peg-board by joining up three points round the edge?
You are given a circle with centre O. Describe how to construct with a straight edge and a pair of compasses, two other circles centre O so that the three circles have areas in the ratio 1:2:3.
Two intersecting circles have a common chord AB. The point C moves on the circumference of the circle C1. The straight lines CA and CB meet the circle C2 at E and F respectively. As the point C. . . .
This gives a short summary of the properties and theorems of cyclic quadrilaterals and links to some practical examples to be found elsewhere on the site.
In the diagram the point P' can move to different places along the dotted line. Each position P' takes will fix a corresponding position for P. If P' moves along a straight line what does P do ?
Two circles intersect at A and B. Points C and D move round one circle. CA and DB cut the other circle at E and F. What do you notice about the line segments CD and EF?
Which has the greatest area, a circle or a square inscribed in an isosceles, right angle triangle?
In the diagram the point P can move to different places around the dotted circle. Each position P takes will fix a corresponding position for P'. As P moves around on that circle what will P' do?
Investigate the properties of quadrilaterals which can be drawn with a circle just touching each side and another circle just touching each vertex.
The sides of a triangle are 25, 39 and 40 units of length. Find the diameter of the circumscribed circle.
Jennifer Piggott and Charlie Gilderdale describe a free interactive circular geoboard environment that can lead learners to pose mathematical questions.
Triangle ABC is right angled at A and semi circles are drawn on all three sides producing two 'crescents'. Show that the sum of the areas of the two crescents equals the area of triangle ABC.
A small circle in a square in a big circle in a trapezium. Using the measurements and clue given, find the area of the trapezium.
M is any point on the line AB. Squares of side length AM and MB are constructed and their circumcircles intersect at P (and M). Prove that the lines AD and BE produced pass through P.


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KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A southwest Missouri man accused of plotting to shoot up a movie theater during the new "Twilight" film was charged Friday after his mother contacted police, telling them she worried her son had purchased weapons similar to those used during the fatal Colorado theater shooting.
Blaec Lammers, 20, of Bolivar, is charged with first-degree assault, making a terroristic threat and armed criminal action. He was jailed in Polk County on $500,000 bond.
"Thankfully we had a responsible family member or we might have had a different outcome," Bolivar Police Chief Steve Hamilton told The Associated Press. He said Lammers is under a doctor's care for mental illness, and court documents said he was "off of his medication." Read More


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Wednesday, July 26, 2006
Post from Yost: Lloyd vs. History
I don't know exactly when it happened, but college football fans have become as content as a gold digging millionaire's wife when a billionaire widower moves in next door. Bitching about one's team is almost as popular as singing the school fight song. Perpetual disconent is now the norm.
Nowhere is that more true today than Ann Arbor.
To hear Michigan fans on sports radio, read their rants on message boards and peruse most maize and blue blogs, the sky is falling in A2. Under Lloyd Carr, the "popular" belief goes, we are witnessing the "slow, steady decline" of the Michigan football program. Hell, to listen to all the naysayers, one would think last year's 7-5 season was the norm (nevermind that Michigan went to back-to-back Rose Bowls before that).
So let's take a look at Carr and see how he stacks up against Michigan's Big Three former head coaches -- Yost, Crisler and Schembechler.
Why are they the measuring stick? Between the three of them, one of them was head coach for roughly half of the 115 seasons of Michigan football before Lloyd took over the reigns in '95. They combined for 25 conference titles and 7 National Titles. Furthermore, their legacies live on today in Ann Arbor: Michigan's hockey arena is name after Yost, its basketball arena after Crisler while its football building carries the Schembechler name. Thus, these are ghosts, two dead and one living, which will always haunt the present Michigan coach.
So how does Lloyd compare next to coaches so good, buildings were named after them? Well...
Fielding H. Yost (one of my personal favorites as you might have guessed) was Michigan's head coach for 25 years in the first quarter of the 20th century. In that time, he had a winning percentage of .833, the best of any Michigan coach in the last 106 seasons. Pretty damn impressive. And in those 25 years at the helm, Yost won or shared 10 conference titles. Not too shabby, right?
Well, in his 11 seasons, Lloyd Carr has won or shared 5 Big 10 titles.
Yost's conference winning percentage was .778, Carr's is .773.
Fritz Crisler had an overall winning percentage of .805 and a .777 mark in the conference in his 10 seasons as the head coach. In those 10 years, he won or shared two conference crowns with one national title to his credit, same as Lloyd.
In its entire history, Michigan has an overall winning percentage of .744 and a conference mark of .727. Carr is at .750 overall and, as mentioned before, .773 in the Big 10.
Then there's Bo Schembechler who probably casts the longest shadow around the U-M campus. In his 21 seasons at the helm, Bo had an overall winning percentage of .796 and a best-in-the-history-of-Michigan .850 in the conference. He won or shared 13 Big 10 titles. Great stuff.
And while Lloyd's recent September struggles on the road are frustrating, Bo had a few glaring blemishes on his record. Taking nothing away from Schembechler, don't forget that from his first season in 1969 through the 1979 season - his first 11 years as head coach, same as Carr so far - Bo never won the last game of the season. Not once. Zip. Nada. Whether it was one of 5 Rose Bowl defeats, one Orange, one Gator and a couple heartbreakers to the Buckeyes (when only the Big 10 champ got a bowl bid those days), Michigan ended each of those years with a loss (and one tie in'73).
Finally, while Lloyd won it all in '97, Bo, unfortunately, never won a National Title. His best finish was #2 after an 11-1-1 campaign in 1985.
So while last season was terrible and unacceptable to all Michigan fans (I'm sure even Carr would say the same thing, as he basically did with the changes to his staff), taking a bigger look using history as our guide reveals that things aren't as bad as they might seem in many parts of cyberspace.
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- Can't spell Lloyd without 2 "L's" said...
I know (but don't always want to admit) that Carr has done a good job. If you look at his actual record, yes, he has done well in the Big 10, he has done pretty well against tOSU, and of course, he has a national championship, which alone goes a llllloooooonnnnnggggg ways in my book.
But I think, and many others would agree, that there's always that feeling that he could be doing just a little bit better. It seems like there is at least 1 game every year they lose that they have no business losing, usually a September non-conference game, likely on the road. His conservative nature has led to a few losses over the years that should have been in the other column.
He has gotten good results, but it seems like with the talent they've had, they could do a little bit better every year.
- July 25, 2006 8:04 AM
Interesting article - one point to clear up, however: the way you put it makes it sound like both Crisler and Lloyd have 2 conference titles and one national title... Lloyd actually has 5 conference titles.
- July 25, 2006 8:09 AM
...he has done pretty well against tOSU...
6-5 lifetime and 1-4 in the past 5 years against Tressel? Guess we just have different definitions of "pretty well."
As for those consecutive Rose Bowl appearances, how many of those did we win?
An honest question: what would it take before you agree that we need a coaching change? If he went 5-7 this year, would that do it? Or will you just come out with some article that shows a coach who wins a National Championship his first year, then progressively worsens, eventually leading to a losing season is actually a good thing?
- July 25, 2006 9:28 AM
- surrounded in columbus said...
love your stuff. respect your opinion, but I have to respectfully disagree w/ you on this call.
if you had told me in 1995 that our next coach would after 11 seasons be 6-5 against tosu, win 5 conference titles, play in 8 straight new year's day bowls, coach a heisman winner, and win a national championship, I'd have said "sold" and signed up for the job of president of the Lloyd Carr fan club on the spot. no one contests that Carr's numbers aren't impressive or that his 11 year record isn't excellent overall, and I still have no regrets looking back at the past decade as a whole. however, your numbers hide some glaring problems.
even w/ the two rose bowl seasons, his numbers over the last 5 or so years just suck. he's 1-4 against tosu, 1-3 against ND. he's lost 6(?) straight first road games. we're 1-4 in bowl games (we beat Ron Zook- yippee). if you were charting a trend line over those 11 seasons, it would be steadily "downhill" over the last 5, w/ last year's 5 loss season anchoring it.
I know the 2003 and 2004 conference title teams buoy the trend, but only to a degree. both of those teams lost 3 games and any time your two best seasons combine for 6 losses, it's not that good.
and when you look closely at those two seasons, it's even more disheartening. the '04 team got spanked by a 4 loss tosu team and an ND team that finished 6-6 (and fired their coach). the '03 team was good enough to be a BCS contender, but we couldn't figure out how to punt against Oregon, and Carr couldn't figure out how to replace a coach until AFTER the second special teams debacle against Iowa. no doubt these were "good" seasons, but certainly both had the potential to be better, and 2003 could have been terrific (if Carr had fired the sp/k coach after one debacle, instead of waiting for two).
and those are the two best seasons over the last 5. the others were much less spectacular. add up the losses of the other 3 seasons (which were complete disappointments in pretty much every sense), and that means even w/ the two rose bowl seasons, he's lost 18 games in 5 seasons. that's more than 60% of his career losses all in 5 years.
I think w/out question that there is a 5 year down trend and it's the single biggest source of complaining. if the last 5 years had been close to as good as his first 5, we'd be naming buildings after him on campus as I type. even if you flipped the seasons (the last 5 years had been like his first 5, and vice versa), people would still be in love w/ him (like Longhorn fans are w/ Mack Brown now) because the trend would be up, not down. but it's not. the trend is down and it feels like a slide. and his numbers bear that out.
I'm not advocating firing him yesterday. changing out coaches (finally) is a sign that he recognizes the need for improvement/change. and the '97 season has earned him a little slack. but he does have to at least stop the slide, if not reserve the trend this year. a 6 season record of 1-5 against tosu, 1-4 against ND, 7(?) straight losses in the first road game, and a 1-5 bowl record might just be bad enough to make a convert out of even you!
- July 25, 2006 9:48 AM
- Can't spell Lloyd without 2 "L's" said...
"Pretty well" is winning more that you lose in my book. "Good" would be probably 7-4, maybe 8-3, and great would be anything better. If you beat tOSU more than they beat you, I'd say you're doing pretty well.
- July 25, 2006 10:05 AM
Then obviously in the last 5 years UM has not been doing "pretty well." How about "abysmal?"
- July 25, 2006 10:16 AM
- surrounded in columbus said...
Anon 7:16,
"abysmal"? sorry, but that's where i have to agree w/ Yost. 44 wins against 18 losses (roughly 9-4 on average) is mediocre, even disappointing for Michigan, but it's not abysmal in any sense of an objective perspective. there's maybe a dozen programs in NCAA DI that have a better record than that over the last 5 seasons.
not to speak for Yost, but i think one of the salient points of his post is that as disappointed as the michigan faithful may be (myself included), the sky isn't falling and the program isn't crashing to the ground in a heap of ashes.
- July 25, 2006 10:53 AM
"not to speak for Yost, but i think one of the salient points of his post is that as disappointed as the michigan faithful may be (myself included), the sky isn't falling and the program isn't crashing to the ground in a heap of ashes."
Nope, that happens when Mike DeBord takes over for Lloyd.
- July 25, 2006 10:55 AM
- surrounded in columbus said...
Anon 7:55,
okay. you may be right about that one.
- July 25, 2006 10:57 AM
- Papa Steve said...
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- July 25, 2006 11:58 AM
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- July 25, 2006 12:08 PM
- Papa Steve said...
The fans that greouse about lloyd and the results of the past year are the same ones that show up on Saturday and have a civilized meal with cocktails included (won't call it a tailgate, doesn't qualify as a party) then head into the stadium to sit on their hands. The only time they get emotional or 'activated' is to hiss at anyone who is standing up to cheer their team. sometimes they even muster up enough gumption to shake their keys on third down situations, less cheering their team on than warning of the consequences of not being successful.
UM has some of the best and classiest fans in football, but there is also a large segment of boring, whiney piss-bitches that really don't contribute much beyond money (some) and taking up the best seats in the stadium so real fans can't attend.
To those who are coming down on Carr....please name me a major football program that has not had a few down years in the past decade. Programs go through cycles and college football isn't an environment where you can be 100% in control of your own destiny all the time. If 7-5 is as far down as we go, which by all indications it will be, we should be grateful that we didn't slide into a few years where we missed bowl games, had a losing record, etc.
The UM/OSU matchup is is always going to even out someday...you win some, you lose some. 4 losses is what will make beating them this year that much sweeter. They have fielded some of the best teams in their history in the past few years and we have not. It will swing back the other way sooner rather than later, but to expect to dominate that rivalry year in and year out is not realistic.....and it wouldn't be a rivalry.
Is Carr perfect? No. Who is?
July 25, 2006 9:08 AM
- July 25, 2006 12:09 PM
- Peter said...
Yo, Yost: my emails to you are bouncing back. Not sure why.
- July 25, 2006 12:22 PM
Well Said! Coaches basically have 3 good years with players, the roster is constantly changing. We can't always expect to be #1 EVERY YEAR...it would be nice, but unrealistic.
People that constantly talk about how bad we sucked last year, remember the 2 previous years we were in the Rose Bowl...we may have lost, but none the less, we were there. When was the last time most schools made it to the Granddaddy of all bowl games back to back?
As for losing to ND and tOSU several times, I am the first to throw a pity party for myself as each clock ticks down to the final minutes and I realize we will suffer another year of defeat to these respective schools...but it happens. However, you must remember Bo lost to Woody 4 out of 6 years (a 5th game was a tie 1970-1975)...not the greatest numbers, yet, he is still a "hero." His overall record vs. Hayes is 4-5-1.(I admit, last year's 7-5 record would have been a little less painful if one of those losses wasn't to the Buckeyes...ok any loss is less painful than one to the Nuts)
So we had one not so stellar season...that's why there is always this year!
39 days to go...
- July 25, 2006 12:29 PM
Papa Steve, your suggestion that those who complain about Carr are also people who are silent at games is bizarre and without merit so I won't address it.
Surrounded in Columbus covered my view pretty well so I'll just respond to your statements. Yes, all programs go thru down periods. Very often they fire their head coach during these down periods. Yes, the OSU/UM rivalry has cyclic periods. Often, the coach on the losing end is fired. Personally, I'd rather not lose 4 in a row to have one really SWEET win. It's news to me that OSU's 2001 and 2004 teams were 'some of the best teams in their history'. In all honesty, Carr beat better OSU teams in the 90s. The same certainly cannot be said of ND's recent teams. In fact, Carr seems to be in down period for ND, OSU, and bowls. Is that just fate or is he responsible?
The laws of nature don't decree that sports are cyclic. There's reasons for these things. Reasons like your coach has lost the edge or had a run of bad luck. Here's to hoping it's luck and Carr rebounds brilliantly.
Based on the evidence, there is little reason for optimism for a huge turn around. I know my optimism was exhausted last season after watching the ND, OSU, and Nebraska games. The Nebraska debacle really brought it home.
Saying we should be grateful UM hasn't had a few seasons missing bowls and such is ridiculous. It's a bit like saying eventhough your girlfriend slept with your best friend you should take her back and be thankful she didn't give you the clap. I expect more from people making millions of dollars. This isn't a life time appointment. Carr's earned this season to turn it around. Let's see if the old guy's still got it. We won't have to wait long to find out. Sept. 16 should do it.
- July 25, 2006 1:03 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
papa steve,
in my personal experience, the whine & cheese crowd that only stands up to yell: "you paid for your seat, use it" is the same bunch that doesn't care about the difference between 7-5 and 10-2. the people pissing and moaning, including myself, are the ones constantly being asked to sit down.
maybe living in columbus 16 years has changed my perspective. hell, maybe i've even "gone native" living amongst the buckeye nation. but i don't see how anyone can shrug the last 5 seasons off w/ an "oh,well" and just call it a "down cycle".
IF this is the end of the "down cycle" and we're headed back up, great. maybe we are. but if it isn't? what if changing coordinators doesn't produce any better results? how many losses to tosu & ND does it take before it's more than just a cycle?
i honestly hope Carr's made the adjustments necessary to turn things around (but that's what he said at the end of the '04 season, too). but i don't sit on my hands at the game, and i don't when i think/talk/type about M football. and if we dump games to ND & tosu AGAIN? i'm not going to sit on my hands then.
as caligirl pointed out- only a month to vanderbilt- only 7 weeks to south bend. i'm guessing by that time either the Lloyd Bashing crowd or the Lloyd Apologist crowd will have begun to change sides come Sunday a.m. i'll be more than happy to jump on the bandwagon come 9/17, but until, i remain doubtful.
- July 25, 2006 1:27 PM
- Yost said...
Good points...except that Bo was actually 5-4-1 against Woody, having won his last 3 against him (as well as '69 and '71).
- July 25, 2006 1:30 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
BTW- aside from triggering my knee jerk Lloyd bashing, this is a very good, thought provoking post. the comparisons to Yost and Crisler are more telling than i realized. makes me wonder what building we'll name after Lloyd? hopefully, a sports building parking structure- the "Carr Parking Garage" is too funny to pass up.
the comparison to Bo is a good splash of cold water/reality. as i grow older, i (and my contemporaries)tend to invoke the ghost of Bo w/out pausing on his short comings (which i'll admit to pissing and moaning about back then- i'm consistent, i guess). you do well to remind us that Bo never won the big one, struggled in bowls, and let's not forget- always played so conservatively as to make you cry (i was at the '88 Miami game when he blew the 16 point lead in 8 minutes, never got a first down, and only tried one pass ....).
Bo's biggest contribution was reviving a program that had pretty much slept thru the late '50's and early '60's. against that history, Carr's '97 season was a gem, and w/ out a doubt, our best since Oosterbaan was coach.
that said, Carr still better beat ND.
- July 25, 2006 1:58 PM
- Yost said...
Trust me when I say I think there is no excuse for some of the recent M collapses. I'm not cheering for the current situation with my eyes closed. I was just trying to put it in perspective which never seems to happen in the hysteria of cyberspace.
More importantly, I was also at the '88 Miami game. Had to leave for out of town event with, believe it or not, about 7 minutes left. First, and I think only, time I left a game early. COULD NOT BELIEVE what I was hearing on radio as I drove away.
That was as bad as any collapse from 2005 b/c the game meant so much.
- July 25, 2006 2:14 PM
In 11 seasons at the helm, Carr has lost 3-5 games in 9 of them. The record against OSU/ND/bowls/road openers has been beaten to death for bout two years, yet it's still relevant to discussing Lloyd's career.
Nobody's demanding a national title every year. But with a program of Michigan's calibur and the yearly talent pool they pull in, I don't think it's asking much to start off a season 5-0 or finish 11-2 every two or three years. It's frustrating for fans, players, and coaches alike to wake up on the fourth sunday in September and realize you're already out of the NC hunt and only have a conference title to look forward too (possibly).
And to those who say "Hey do want them completely fall of the map and win 3 games? Carr keeps this team afloat." He's kept them mediocre to above average every year except for '97 and '99. Would fans be willing to endure four or five years of truly bad football and then rise into five years of perrenial top 3 finishes a la Miami and USC?
- July 25, 2006 2:23 PM
Bo rebuilt the house that won only 1 Big Ten title from 1951 to 1968 (and had 7 losing seasons) but as mentioned earlier, he was only 1-3-1 against OSU from 1972 to 1975. What also should be recognized is that the Big 10 (err, Big 2, Little 8) absolutely sucked in the 1970's then outside of UM and OSU. From 1969-80 (when UM & OSU battled it out every year for the Big 10 title), of the 82 Big Ten games UM played outside of OSU, only 6 schools were ranked when UM played them. So while we should be impressed with Bo's 79-5 Big Ten record against schools other than OSU from 1969-80, the Big Ten by all purposes stunk.
The reality is, once Iowa emerged (and then everyone else) in 1981, Bo's teams suffered some pretty Lloyd-like debacles. Other than Miami in 1988 (which was already mentioned), how about blowing a 14-3 lead against South Carolina at home in 1980, blowing a 21-point lead at home against UCLA in 1982 and going comatose against ND that same year on the road for a 23-17 loss, blowing a 14-point lead on the road in the 4th quarter against Washington in 1983, the 6-6 season of '84, including a 26-0 whitewash loss at Iowa, and the string of losses to ND from 1987-1989.
I love Bo but parody did not reign for the first 10 years of his coaching career, and his record in the 1980's was very similar to LC's record.
Still, the statistical problem with LC is that he is "Earle Bruce-like" - that is 9-3 is the norm (if not worse). In his 11 years, he has only lost 2 or less games twice (1997, 1999). And as far as I'm concerned, that 1999 team got hosed out of a national title chance because it took LC six weeks (and a loss to MSU) to figure out Tom Brady was the man.
- July 25, 2006 2:35 PM
Well boys and girls...the doctor has diagnosed a case of Cooperitis in A2. A statistically successful coach who is hard to dismiss because of image repercussions. LC was fortunate to have Cooper as the rival coach, since THE GAME was beyond his grasp as to the importance to both schools. I recall we lost with great teams in 93 (w/o LC) 95 & 96 where we entered undefeated and then lost 2x including a bowl. I commented then that without the TOSU wins he has 3-4 losses a year with what must have been pretty good talent but saves his season(s) against us.
Some would say be careful what you wish for, you might get it. TOSU fans wished for a coach who understood the rivalry and would not get beat before the game began. Well after 2-10-1, the tide is turning as we took the risk that there is someone out there who can coach 'em up. I'm sure after a while the ebb and flow will even out, but we have a long way to go to get even for the Cooper years. I want you to win all of your games (particularly ND), except for the last one in November. Until then, remember, there is no known cure for Cooperitis. You can treat it with alcohol but the effects linger.
See you in Columbus, love your blog, even when we are dragged thru the mud.
- July 25, 2006 2:55 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
Anon 11:55,
appreciate the thoughts, but Carr's not really Cooper/cooperitis. Coop never won anything to speak of, but Lloyd has had his day in sun. Carr's more like a great party and following hang over rolled into one. we had a helluva drunk in '97-'99, and 6 years of excederin head aches every morning since...
- July 25, 2006 3:32 PM
Au contraire mon frere. Cooper beat UM in the Rose Bowl in 86 and promptly got hired by TOSU. Where he was #2 in 98 season after the inexplicable loss to MSU, only to be fired after the debacle of the 2000 season and loss to South Carolina. So you may surmise that LC has had some season saving wins early on but not since the new sheriff came to town. On the up side, you haven't had the off field problems that plaged Cooper the last few years either.
- July 25, 2006 3:51 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
i'm sorry. "off the field problems"?? to which tosu coaching are you referring?
- July 25, 2006 4:00 PM
- Papa Steve said...
I will admit my statement that the boring fans are the ones that complain the most isn't necessarily true, however I wouldn't consider them 'bizarre' or 'without merit'. I know a LOt of alums from several generations (myself, younger brother, older sister , both parents and a grandfather......and a lot of their friends). It has been my experience that many of the people with which I am familiar (not my family) who don't know much about the team (or football)...do sit on their hands in the stadium, are the ones jumping on bandwagon to have Carr's head...just because they aren't being served up their usual number of wins for 1 year. Your mileage may vary ;)
Surround: I'm not shrugging off 7-5, believe me if you had any idea how much shizzle i eat as a UM fan..grew up in East Lansing, my Mother's side of the family are all in Columbus and i now live on the West Coast and am surrounded by Pac 10 weenies from places like Berkeley and Stanford. All I'm saying is that I don't think it is that clear that Carr is the reason the program is in a slump. In my opinion Carr elevated the program and aside from last year has had them competing at a very high level every year.
- July 25, 2006 6:03 PM
- Papa Steve said...
The girlfriend analogy you employ doesn't really apply in any way, as I don't think Lloyd has committed any morally reprehensible acts and as far as I know he has not cheated on me.
True...some programs fire coaches in down years...sometimes it helps, sometimes it hurts. I don't think their is any guarantee that bringing in a new coach is going to get the results you want, in fact it could possibly make things worse. I give it a 50/50 shot at best.
With re: to OSU...that is why I said 'some' of their best teams, not all.
I'm not sayiong Carr is perfect, but I just don't believe you can attribute everything that has gone wrong to him and therefore I don't believe dumping him is the answer.
It is not realistic to belive that the UM program should be able to avoid the same sort of cycles that every other powerhouse team has endured. I mention losing seasons and no bowl seasons because those are depths that a lot of other powerhouse teams have sunk to when they cycle down. If 7-5 is as low as we go, we did very well and righting the ship. That is TBD though.
I'm not even saying I'll be that all that sorry when Carr is gone, but nor do I think he is the source of all evil either.
I do hope the UM Administration makes good on their promise to do an external search to replace him, as I think if anything is a problem it is the promote within program that keeps UM from updating their strategies/methods.
Please Dog...let it be Mr. Tedford.
- July 25, 2006 6:23 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
Papa Steve,
as for shizzle, i feel your pain, brother. and i understand those (like you and Yost) who don't want to pull an Earl Bruce. my problem is simply that i've lost my faith and i'm bitter!
several of my friends/class mates/etc., began jumping on the "Blame Lloyd" band wagon after he bungled the whole drew henson debacle (Carr will forever be remembered as the guy that recruited, and then platooned Tom Brady). i was for the longest time the last defender of Lloyd, patience, and steadiness.
but over the last few years, he's finally worn me out and i've had to throw in the towel. for me, it's not merely the losses to tosu & ND. you're right- those go thru streaks. but it's the OTHER losses that have killed my faith.
last year's Minn/Wisc/Alamo games were just embarrassing. they took what would have been another lackluster but respectable season (10-2, w/ losses to ND & tosu) and turned it into a disaster.
same for '03. how the frick did he lose to BOTH Oregon AND Iowa because we couldn't punt/cover kicks?
and why? because he just wouldn't make changes. we had to blow two games in '03 before changing the special teams coordinator. we had to blow a dozen leads in the last two seasons to finally change the DC. we had to rank 9/11 in rushing before we got a different OC.
i could go on, but i've beat this horse to death. he's made some changes (frickin finally) in his staff. if they work, all will be forgiven. if they don't, there's only one person left to change out....
- July 25, 2006 7:02 PM
Papa Steve, we may see the A.D. actively pursuing Tedford in the near future, since supposedly Lloyd will only be here for what, 2-3 years before his age and supposedly declining health take a toll?
When that happens I just hope the athletic department doesn't get suckered in by some overrated, up & coming hotshot with a gimmick offense that won't work in any major conference (Urban Meyer).
- July 25, 2006 9:24 PM
"Abysmal" was merely a tongue in cheek response to "Can't spell Lloyd's" immediately prior post of "If you beat tOSU more than they beat you, I'd say you're doing pretty well."
- July 25, 2006 10:57 PM
Papa Steve, your comments make sense to me and I was making the same argument one year ago. We all want the same thing. I just reached a point last season where I came to the conclusion that the UM football program had problems that went beyond the excuses I'd been using. I hope that the changes brought can return UM to where it should be.
I thought the quiet fans comment was odd because I suspected it was just the oposite. I always thought the fans that attend the games and ask people to sit down (clearly not me) were the same people that were happy with program that looked good on paper but really wasn't getting it done.
Yost's original article raises some interesting points about the aggregate stats. I just think that if you take a closer look it is apparent that UM hasn't been up to par this decade.
- July 26, 2006 10:06 AM
Thanks for correcting my err.
I have a question...am I the only one that thinks that the losses we have suffered in the last year(s) were more than just a head coach thing? We had/have some SERIOUS issues on the defensive line. I for one would like to see what Ron English will do this year taking the reigns. Does anyone else agree, or am I way off base?
- July 26, 2006 12:15 PM
- Papa Steve said...
I have to admit that your arguments make sense to me too and even go as far as calling myself a quasi-hypocrite as I have had 'spells' where I wanted Carr run out of town on a rail and have made the same arguments you have. So far i have always recovered and reverted to my 'big picture' view of Lloyd's overall record.
Give me a call a few hours after the ND game if we lose and I will likely be happt to make a substantial donation to the Fire Carr Foundation ; )
Maybe it is just that it is still summer and for me hope srings eternal with UM football and I expect them to have a much better year.
- July 26, 2006 3:10 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
no, i don't think you're the only one who's noticed the play of the D- line (or the O- line either).
they both struggled last year. we were miserable on sacks and couldn't get to any qb w/ out a blitz.
we were miserable running the ball. not just against top notch defenses like tosu or psu, but nd, northern illinois(??), minnesota??
and the failure to run the ball and stop the run/rush the qb w/ out a blitz contributes meaningfully in our 4th quarter collapses.
as for english (and debord), like papa steve, i'm quietly (desperately?) optimistic about this season. we've heard a lot of talk from players/coaches all spring about the focus on physical play, knocking people down.
the '03 team knocked people off the line on both sides. when you watched them, they looked like they played "michigan" football (the o-line's performance against ND & tosu were epic, the d-line's too).
the '06 team needs to do the same thing. cross your fingers.
- July 26, 2006 4:15 PM
Here is a little recent history:
1) Michigan is 7-7 in it's last 14 games.
2) Michigan has lost 4 of 5 to OSU, 3 of 4 to ND.
3) Michigan has lost its last 6 road openers and has not won a non-conference road game since 1999.
The sky is not falling, but there should be cause for alarm as the trend is downward in the new millenium.
- July 26, 2006 4:34 PM
Surrounded: "if they work, all will be forgiven. if they don't, there's only one person left to change out...." Amen, brotha! I couldn't have said it any better myself.
If we blow like a $2 whore again this year...Carr best be on his merry way. Oh, I'm TRYING to stay optimistic...but MAN is it getting hard.
And now I'm out here around all these ASU knobs who can only say "Hey, we beat you guys back in '86, right?" Yeah, yeah...bite me. (But at least they're still better than the Cols folk.) Hang in there, man!
- July 26, 2006 5:52 PM
Hey watch it, I date an "ASU Knob" (haha) Although, he never brings that year up...unlike our UCLA Homer friend who talks a BIG game...as if the Bruins have been to the Rose Bowl AT ALL in recent years (and not for a regular season game either)!
- July 26, 2006 7:57 PM


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I'm actually pretty easy to please. A guy with a good ass and a good personality, and I'm good to go.
I'm actually pretty easy to please. A guy with a good ass and a good personality, and I'm good to go.
Easy to please, but don't give me teeth when sucking or I'll lost interest
As long as the guy is willing and not too tight, I'm good.
That we are capable only of being what we are, remains our unforgivable sin.
- Gene Wolfe
^^ Always wanted to know....
I only had sex once, and with a girl. She gave me a fellatio, and at some moment I sensed a little bit of teeth, and it increases the pleasure. So I was always wondering why so many people mention that as something horrifying ?
Otherwise for the OP, I imagine I'll be easy to please, but more eager to please the other one I think, especially as a 'gay virgin'.
Magna Veritas
looking at the thread title, i came in here thinking you were talking about easy to satisfy with a date to mcdonalds to eat a happy meal or a walk in the park or relaxing on your couch watching tv on your dayoff but you're talking about sex. can't answer that question.
Kind of. A good attitude is all I look for.
Ain't nobody got time for chronic complainers.
Yeah, I'm easy going. As long as things stay respectful and don't get too weird, I'm a happy camper. Pretty much goes for my whole life, in and out of bed.
Yes, easy going, easy to please, easy on the eyes and I smell good too
FPNYAnnoying JUBBERS since 2003
But in fact I had a lover once who liked his dick being chewed ... maybe some guys are less sensitive and will need more pressure than a gentle lick to feel some sensation down there ...
I'd say I'm pretty tolerant. In most things, not just sex. But I have my limits of repetitive pushing. Go too far in something I've asked nicely about or mentioned once, and I tend to get a little stabby.
Answer a phone or text during or in the middle though, and your ass is outta there! And through the damn window, NOT the door!
I am pretty easy to please. As long as I found the guy cute, has a good personality and we communicate well, I am pretty much set to go.
Just touch me and I'm good to go
I'm not blind. I can see OK. But the visual input I get from guys is somewhat minimal. It can have an impact on me, but not that great of one. And I don't necessarily respond to physical attributes the same as most people, or even the same way at different times. Sometimes a bulging cock in tight underwear is a great turn-on. Sometimes, enh. The one thing that nearly always gets me going is a good ass. And I've seen good asses that are barely there, and ones that are gi-normous. It's hard o quantify, but I know a good as when I see it.
So what DOES attract me? A personality that I click with. Friendly. Funny. Fun. Playfully sexual. Why do I find this a turn-on? The same reason I find a great ass a turn-on - "this would be great to have in bed". For instance, I've played around with cocks ranging from four inches to nine inches. And the ones I've enjoyed the most weren't a particular size or shape, but the ones attached to a guy who I connected with the most. That's when sex (for me) is taken to a whole other level.
And yeah, some might think it's odd to be attracted to a personality instead of a hot body. But here!s the big payoff.
You meet a guy that turns you on. Hot bottom, great ass, cute face, whatever.
I meet a guy that turns me on. Nice ass, great fun personality, we cluck.
Which of us is more likely to get our guy into bed?
In life, yes. With people, no. There's billions of people on this planet. So you have to do more than exchange gases with the atmophere to stand out.
I'm pretty easy to please. Just don't be possessive and a killjoy. Thank you.
"... You think the only people who are people
Are the people who look and think like you ..." - Colours of the Wind by Vanessa Williams
There have been quite a few friends that have told me: "you are the biggest asshole I have ever met but I still love you." I feel like my generation in general wants friends that put them on a silver pedestal and worship them. I am not gonna be that friend. I am gonna be brutally honest with you which people often mistake for insulting them. Those that cherish my candidness are much better off than the ones deluded into thinking everything is okay because people tell them that.
Random aside: So, my boss that got fired, apparently I said to her that she should not put up with the shit her husband throws at her. That somehow translated in her mind to 'find another man'. I am all about conflict resolution unless they other party is unwilling to compromise.
I wish I could say I was easy to please...but it is the opposite for me. Especially nowadays...I have grown accustomed to tantric sex and I don't think anything else would satisfy me now....
Before this....I really liked guys who were into primal dominance and submission which is not the same as S&M or B&D...no dress up or role play or verbal or physical abuse is involved and no ego is involved...it instead requires a lack of ego. It is more like getting in touch or hopefully already being in touch with your animal state and trusting your instincts and if I submit to someone it is only with a guy who operates on that level. I love that kind of sex because I get a freedom from it.
One of the worst things someone could do is tell me I am cute or hot if they want to have sex with me...as soon as someone said that to me I was immediately turned off because in my mind they gave me a role to play. Being "cute" pretty much kills the sex IMO...I like to lose myself... I didn't want to be "cute"....I wanted to be free from all of that nonsense. I only found a handful of guys who could take me there over the years...and they have my eternal appreciation.
So yeah...I am hard to please.
Looks like this thread is mostly on 'easy to please...sexually' LOL
thats a a question I simply could never answer...
Sexually speaking, I suppose I'm pretty easy to please really.
In terms of day to day life...Well, I'm still mostly easy to please as well. I might have some high expectations of the way people should act, at least while I'm around them, but they're not so high that it's impossible to please me. I suppose that answers the question; probably.
I'm sorry to have kept you waiting, but I'm afraid my walk has become rather sillier recently...
Pretty easy to please as long as we click and there's some attraction. I don't have a list.
Any creepy vibe, and we probably won't even get to the meeting stage anyway.
I'm good as long as I don't get treated as just a cum dump.
I'm a very laid-back go with the flow type of guy. Easy fo sho.
No, I need to know he is FEELING it.
Also, none of that fetish shit. I will clock.
I'm a pleaser, i get off to helping/making others get off.
Oddly enough it is hard to get me to cum. If i'm not watching him enjoy himself i'll last for hours, if i'm sucking him off i'll cum quick.
I'm easy to please, as long as he has a good personality and cares then I'm happy.


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Shrieking Sisters & Lay Up Your Ends
Start:14 March 2013
Time:7.15 pm
LocationBelfast City Hall
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Shrieking Sisters (Belfast City Hall) 14th March at 7.15 - (A dramatic rehearsed reading) Written by Maggie Cronin and Carol Mooreand performed by Maggie Cronin, Laura Hughes and Carol Moore
In the early hours of August 1st 1914 a group of suffragettes, lead by Mrs Lilian Metge attempted to blow up Lisburn Cathedral. What made a respectable middle class supporter of women's rights resort to active militancy? Using a mix of new writing, original source and related material, Shrieking Sisters envisages characters and events around the Ulster Suffrage Movement between 1912 and 1914 and their struggle for votes for women.
Lay Up Your Ends (Belfast City Hall) 20th March at 7.15 (A rehearsed reading) Written by Martin Lynch and Charabanc Theatre Company and directed by Carol Moore.
Lay Up Your Ends centres around the mill girl's strike of 1911 and the eventual unionisation of the textile worker's section of the Irish Transport Worker's Union. The play produced by Charabanc Theatre Company premiered at Belfast Civic Arts Theatre on the 15th May, 1983.


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