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Thursday, June 15, 2006
About this whole soccer thing...
Sorry. Can't get on this bandwagon. Because, in my opinion - how can I put this? - soccer blows.
There, I said it. And I feel better getting it out. Because while it may not be "sportically correct," soccer bores me to tears. I'd rather watch grass grow - which I think it actually does during the course of a soccer match.
Sure, soccer fans rave about the "uninterrupted flow" of the game because play never stops for each of the two 45 minute halves. But to me, that's not flow, that's a flaw. Because when the hell am I supposed to take a whiz if the damn game never stops? Even worse, if the game never stops, that means no Bud Bowl. How can you call it the "biggest" sport in the world if there's not a Bud Bowl?
Oh, and what's the deal with that extra time just randomly added at the end of the game? Nobody knows how much, just the refs. Are you kidding me!? You think Penn State fans got bent out of shape about two extra seconds in Ann Arbor last year, JoePa would have a heart attack over this shit.
Listen, if you want to pretend this crap is exciting, go ahead. But any sport where the typical game is 1-0, 2-0 is a rout and 3-1 is an offensive explosion, I guess I don't get all the excitement. So pardon me if I'm not setting my alarm clock trying to catch the big Ecuador-Costa Rica showdown.
Go ahead, flame away with the "you don't get it" comments. But when Brazil, supposedly a team so good its back-ups could have qualified for the Cup, beats Croatia by - you guessed it - 1-0; and the Mighty English beat Paraguay - wait for it - 1-0; I'd rather save my TiVo space for old college football games on ESPN Classic.
68 comments:
Oh c'mon what other sport can you yell "Olay Olay Olay Olay...Ooooolay...oooolay" for hours on end in a drunkin fit.
- June 15, 2006 2:33 AM
Right on. Soccer sucks.
- June 15, 2006 8:02 AM
The only cool thing to watch in a soccer game is the Jukes and other crazy ass things they do with their feet. Unfortunately unless you have HDTV you can't see the ball control. I also kinda like how they can place the ball perfectly on a shot, making it curve and what not.
- June 15, 2006 9:45 AM
Geez, will we now attack backgammon, chess, horse shoes, bocci ball and all other games we personally don't like?
You like brussel sprouts, I hate them. But, for some reason I don't feel the need to come on here and say brussel sprouts suck. You are allowed to like what you like, I'm allowed to like what I like, and personally, I don't give a rats ass what YOU like and don't like.
For some reason, American rednecks that drive pickups with decals of a young kid peeing on something, love to tell everyone that soccer sucks. Evidently you think that makes people who love soccer think less of themselves. It certainly makes the redneck feel good about himself. God knows they love to let everyone know what they approve of and what they don't.
I like soccer, you don't. Big fucking deal. Get over yourself, because, this may come as a shock to you, your personal likes and dislikes are as interesting to the rest of us as beige paint.
- June 15, 2006 9:52 AM
Don't forget all the neo-Nazi crap that goes on in European 'football': fans holding up signs that say "You belong in the ovens" when Israeli or Jewish players are on the field. One 'footballer' actually sieg heiled his fans. Douchebags.
- June 15, 2006 9:54 AM
God knows anon that blacks have never been treated poorly in Atlanta, so we can act superior to those CRAZY european soccer fans.
If we were going to hate sports because of their idiot fans, the Raider fans would certainly make the world hate the NFL.
- June 15, 2006 10:09 AM
you say: "your personal likes and dislikes are as interesting to the rest of us as beige paint." '
Isn't that what a blog is all about?? If you don't like what is said, don't read it.
- June 15, 2006 10:16 AM
cottoncandy said...
and personally, I don't give a rats ass what YOU like and don't like.
apparently you do because you just wrote a pretty long rant about it.
Soccer sucks.
- June 15, 2006 10:25 AM
Two things:
1) It's their blog
2) Soccer sucks ball
from a fellow buckeye fan
- June 15, 2006 10:35 AM
- Benny Friedman said...
I'm not a soccer fan, but having a mild interest in it every four years seems about right. I'll watch some games, and pay attention to who wins, but then not miss it until 2010.
Besides, I'd rather watch a 0-0 (OK, nil to nil) futbol game then ANY golf tournament or NASCAR race. At least soccer is an actual sport.
- June 15, 2006 10:44 AM
- Reed4AU said...
You don't liker soccer because of the scores and the ties. Then I guess you don't like hockey either and apparently by the tv ratings nobody else does either. I know there's not ties in hockey anymore but that only just changed.
Were really the only country in the world besides maybe Canada that hates soccer, but what do they know their national sport is hockey.
Maybe I appreciate it more because I played it through college. I don't really like the first round draws, but the round of 16 beyond is great.
I'll never like the sport as much as college football, but I recognize the skill involved and that's why I enjoy it.
I realize it's your opinion and many others that the sport sucks, but I can't help notice America's arrogance in lampooning something the rest of the world treasures.
- June 15, 2006 10:49 AM
- Benny Friedman said...
You can't deny the similarities between the World Cup and college football. I'm not talking about day-to-day soccer, just the World Cup.
-The players aren't really playing for money, though a strong performance can be lucrative.
-The fans are passionate to their team/country no matter if they moved away years ago.
-The singing of traditional songs in the crowd
-The party atmostphere for the games; they're not just games, they're events
-The fact that the players are your players. Always and forever. Are Laker fans cheereing for Shaquille O'Neal now? Bulls fans hated Dennis Rodman but then he helped them win three titles. That doesn't happen in World Cup play or college football.
Anybody think of other similarities?
- June 15, 2006 10:53 AM
- Can't spell Lloyd without 2 "L's" said...
Anyone ever see "The Simpsons" episode where they're at a match, and they show an American announcer calmly talking about the non-happenings on the field, then they go to a foreign announcer who's pretty much having a coronary describing the same non-happenings? Hilarious if you've seen it...oh, and then a riot breaks out at the game.
- June 15, 2006 11:34 AM
I love your site...and I think college football is by far the greatest sport on earth! But I do have to admit that I love soccer. It is a great combination of speed, finesse, skill, strategy. But I don't expect everyone to get it. I have no problem with people not liking it. But I don't understand why everyone feels the need to bash it. If you don't like, fine. I don't care.
For those who say that soccer is boring...again, I don't care. People have different tastes. But please please please don't tell me that you like baseball!!! The sport where they jam-pack 15 minutes of excitement into 4 hours. Baseball is the "great American pastime"...but I'd rather get my back waxed than watch a baseball game on TV. I'll never understand how someone can tell me that they are fans of baseball or NASCAR...and then tell me that soccer is boring.
- June 15, 2006 11:53 AM
- CrimeNotes said...
Thanks for being one of the only sports bloggers pointing out the obvious. I now feel slightly less alone.
My friends won't shut up about this garbage. The ABC/ESPN pimping feels relentless. What's it like? Like being stuck watching a TNT 24-hour marathon of Rudy; like Olympic Ice Dancing has suddenly become cool and unavoidable; like having a Jehovah's Witness on your doorstep, and he refuses to leave; like a non-stop lecture about moral superiority and globalization.
The sport blows and a large number of its U.S. fans are self-righteous pricks.
The World Cup blows.
- June 15, 2006 11:54 AM
That reminds me of what my dear old granpappy said to me, "Sonny sit over there and watch me fuck your granny in the ass."
- June 15, 2006 11:58 AM
- Benny Friedman said...
Anon at 8:53, believe me when I tell you that Yost is NOT a baseball fan. I am, and whenever I mention baseball he ignores me. However, he did say last night that he'd rather watch a baseball game than a World Cup match. If he had to, that is.
Crimenotes, I think ABC/ESPN pimping is one of the reasons for the soccer backlash. They make it seem that if you're not skipping work and painting your face for the matches you're some sort of xenophobic asshole. That's probably only the case with about 50% of these anti-soccer people.
dubbya, I am speechless. I am without speech.
- June 15, 2006 12:04 PM
Wow, Yost...you really stirred the turd with THIS one!! (lol) But I'm with you -- I'll pass on soccer, AND baseball on TV, and golf on TV, etc.
Cottonpony - Face it, Americans won't get truly interested in the sport until they have a cross-country kickball team that's worth a flying fig. So far, ain' happenin'.
- June 15, 2006 12:24 PM
BUT...I will say that at least their stadiums are a million times louder than our Hush House. How humiliating. :-(
- June 15, 2006 12:26 PM
- Yost said...
8:53AM Anon,
What do I think of baseball?
I'd rather watch soccer.
- June 15, 2006 12:48 PM
- Yost said...
When the hell did I ever say I'd rather watch baseball? You must have been delirious from working on our MZone store.
I'd rather watch a cat lick himself than a baseball game.
- June 15, 2006 12:49 PM
- Yost said...
As someone else stated, he who runs the blog gets to state his opinion. That really IS what a blog is all about.
Also, to compare someone saying soccer sucks to saying you like brussel sprouts and I don't, isn't really the same thing.
Sports -- all sports, even college football -- are nothing more than different forms of entertainment. And like a reviewer saying this movie or that was boring, my opinion (there's that damn word again) is that soccer is about as exciting as DUECE BIGALO 2.
- June 15, 2006 1:01 PM
I think you are all missing the point. The authors of this sign are trying to inject some excitement into soccer by making them play on the archery field. Now that I'd watch...
- June 15, 2006 1:02 PM
- Yost said...
I'm rooting for the archers.
- June 15, 2006 1:03 PM
Soccer bores me too. I think most soccer fans are actually bored by it too. Why do you think they have riots? They don't care about the game. It's just an excuse to drink a lot.
That being said I'll watch soccer before I'll watch scratch 'n spit (baseball) or circle drivin' rednecks (NASCAR). Soccer is boring but baseball and stock cars are painful.
- June 15, 2006 2:08 PM
Here's something else annoying about soccer. Anyone can fucking play it. Why do you think it's the sport of choice for the sheltered offspring of soccer moms nationwide.
Every professional soccer player looks like any scraggley, emaciated schmo on the street.
Me, I'd rather have professional athletes look like freaks of nature. It's exciting and demands a sense of awe that way.
- June 15, 2006 2:12 PM
- nico said...
Soccer has freaks of nature too.
- June 15, 2006 2:20 PM
- Reed4AU said...
Anybody can play it? Oh c'mon that's just ignorance. Anybody can get their no talent kid on to any league sport there is. I've seen a fat kid on a swim team and skinny kid on a football field.
No sport requires more athleticism than soccer. Certainly others require more strength and other skills, but for pure athleticism nothing compares to soccer.
- June 15, 2006 2:26 PM
Reed4au, I couldn't agree more.
To reinforce some positive soccer vibe on this decidedly anti-soccer discussion. Soccer is the 2nd best sport in the world next to college football.
- June 15, 2006 3:08 PM
"Here's something else annoying about soccer. Anyone can fucking play it."
Yea I bet the average fat ass can run for 90 minutes a day not including the 2 hour practices that take place. Better yet remember that fat fucking coach of your high school football team that would ride around on a golf cart? Why don't you ask him if he can play soccer. The only one you know who is good at playing with balls is your mom. BAM!!!
- June 15, 2006 4:47 PM
- Papa Steve said...
Ugh...yost, too bad for you. Saying you don't like soccer because it isn't enough like U.S. pro sports in the U.S. (not enough witty advertisements) is definitely not bolstering the percetion of your IQ. If you understand the game, there IS always something going on...positioning, testing of defenses and opposing players for weaknesses...you just have to know what to look for when you watch.
If you watched a college football game without knowing what is going on, it looks like 7, maybe ten seconds of action followed by 2 minutes of standing around, or in your words...advertisements. Don't get me wrong, I love college football and grew up in a UM family with 5 alums between my parents and siblings, but to the unititated it is a bore. My wife is from Brazil and she likes watching football with me only because she can get so much done at the same time without missing a second of the game.
It is harder to play soccer at the World Cup level than it is to play football in the Superbowl. Plain and simple. You can't steroid up and have any advanatage, you have to have a blend of skills, brains and experience to get there, no substitutes. Not to mention you are competing against an entire globe of players, not just the U.S.
In terms of traditions, extrapolate on the regional rivalries of the NCAA and make them more intense by considering that soccer rivalries involve ancient cultural hatred that can go back thousands of years, global bragging rights, socio-political implications, wars, serious contention between ex-colonies toward their former occupiers...etc.
Have you watched the intensity of the U.S. v. Mexico game grow over the years? I live in California and I have almost as much bitterness with my Mexicali friends over that game as I do with UM v. OSU or MSU (and I grew up in East Lansing and my Mom's side of the family is from Columbus, so they are extremely bitter for me). Do you have any idea what kind of intensity is involved in an England v. Germany matchup? Or the clash of style, culture, economics and philosophy involved when Germany (cold, calulating strategists known for doing whatever it takes to win, groomed from childhood in a soccer machine flush with cash, coaching and facilities) plays Brazil (all skill and flair with unreal athleticism and a soul for the game that are nearly all kids who started out playing on gravel lots with homemade balls that would not be eating much if it weren't for soccer). That is all on the field if you choose to think about it.
I lived in Zurich for a year and London for 3 and trust me, no U.S.- centric sport compares at all to the global spectacle of soccer. I played on a Sunday League team in London and we had the opportunity to travel to the Czech Republic for a friendly game with a team in Prague and it was an unreal experience. The game was decidedly NOT friendly, but we also went out drinking with them afterward and suffice to say Americans can't drink for snot either. I also got to watch the World Cup in London and hopped the chunnel to Paris after they won it and believe me....nothing you have ever seen would compare to the post win festivities that occured. I was awake for nearly two days, slept in a park another night and in some strange Fench girls place another. It transformed the entire country for months, if not years. I traveled in South America for over two years and witnessed games in Bolivia, Ecuador and Argentina and I hate to say it, but the whole experience has got it all over anything the U.S. has to offer.
If you think that ads are what make NCAA football better, then maybe you hope it can become more like an NBA or NHL game whereby we can get an organ player to fill every gap of 3 seconds or more, or worse yet we can start blasting Budweiser sponsored Ted Nugent guitar licks into every gap between plays along with big animations reminding fat-ass Americans that there are corn dogs, donuts and 72 ounce sodas all within arms reach if they are bored with the game.
Personally, I abhor all professional sports in the U.S. To make an analogy to food, they are a 7-eleven hot dog and a 72 ounce Mountain Dew compared to the loads of fine international cuisine that soccer represents, steeped in tradition, culture and rivalry.
I love NCAA football b/c it is a lot closer to soccer than it is to most pro sports, although that seems to be changing as $$ plays a larger and larger role in what it is all about, which is really too bad b/c that sucks.
Most Americans don't get soccer because it takes some time for them to learn something in order to appreciate it and most seem to hate learning at all. Another reason is that there isn't enough scoring. So there is a lot of scoring in NBA basketball and still to me it is snooz-O-rama. A bunch of very tall, very rich egomaniacs loping up and down the court, covered in tattoos and gansta stylee trying to get yet another slam dunk. Womens's basketball is more interesting as a sport to me, at least they play as a team. Is that what you want? The players to run up and down the field and score every other time?
We agree wholeheartedly on baseball. fun to play at night with beer, but I couldn't watch it to save my life.
- June 15, 2006 5:02 PM
Why is it considered arrogant to proclaim ones disslike of soccer? No matter American's do it is always construed as arrogance.
Frankly, I watch world cup because it is better than the WNBA and it's only once every 4 years.
- June 15, 2006 5:02 PM
papa steve:
"It is harder to play soccer at the World Cup level than it is to play football in the Superbowl. Plain and simple. You can't steroid up and have any advanatage, you have to have a blend of skills, brains and experience to get there, no substitutes. Not to mention you are competing against an entire globe of players, not just the U.S."
The entire globe has almost as many athletes as California, so what's your point? The US as 3rd tier athletes on our world cup team, yet, we are still ranked in the Top 20 in the world. What does that say about soccer athletes? Not much. Where did you get this notion that soccer is anything more than a 3rd world past time?
- June 15, 2006 5:06 PM
- Reed4AU said...
Yeah anybody can play soccer, just like anybody can play football, play baseball/softball, swim/run a race, play basketball, or play golf.
It's the fact that they play at a different level. You can't compare even a well organized game of backyard football to the NFL, just like you can't compare the level of play at the World Cup to a junior or rec league game, or even a MLS game for that matter. These are best teams in the world, they have to qualify to get there so it's not as if any country with a team can just show up and play like in the Olympics.
Any fat ass can run for 90 minutes? You have to be kidding. Show me any basically fit person who can run for 30 minutes and not get a little winded. How about a fat ass that can walk for 30 minutes and get winded.
- June 15, 2006 5:12 PM
Like my ol' granny used to say, "Can't nobody pound ass like your granpappy."
- June 15, 2006 5:17 PM
- Papa Steve said...
First of all, I didn't say it was arrogant, I said it was stupid. Thanks for backing up my point though. Move your lips when you read, it helps.
Your statement that there are more athletes in California than the entire globe pretty much sums up your little deficiency in knowledge. Do you really think that?
Hardly true and in nearly all sports that don't involve big $$ the U.S. doesn't compete very well. In the ones they do, it usually has something to do with some form of chemical enhancements. The 'freaks of nature' in the NFL, NBA and MLB are all products of anything BUT nature, more like a laboratory. If
Well, if you call Germany, Japan, England, Spain, Italy, Saudi Arabia, Sweden, Switzerland, amongst many otherss, third world, then that only proves my point further. If you consider anything outside the U.S. third world, then you are obviously some sort of backwoods hayseed that gets their news from that ther TeeVee and maybe an occasional glance at a USA Today which is written at a third grade level so'se Americans can understand it. Have you ever left the U.S., aside from a tourist destination in Mexico or Canada? I doubt it.
- June 15, 2006 5:50 PM
- Yost said...
P. Steve,
So folks that don't have a love of soccer are -- let's make sure I get this right lets there be another comment -- "stupid" or should have their IQ called into question? I see. My bad for not seeing the world and my sporting preference through your MENSA eyes. I guess that's just my ignorance.
And yeah, I was dead serious that more commercials and advertisements making soccer a better sport. Because the Bud Bowl is such comedic and entertainment genius, right? I mean, no reason the tone of the rest of the posts on this blog might lead one to think such a statement could be a bit tongue in cheek.
But you've given me a lot to think about re: soccer. And -- in my opinion on a blog -- it still blows.
But of course, obviously anybody who doesn't see it as you do simply isn't as cultured.
Speaking of which...
As for the "loads of fine international cuisine that soccer represents, steeped in tradition, culture and rivalry," I especially love the tradition where the German hooligans give the Nazi salute or the English thugs beat teh shit out of opposing fans. Fine, indeed.
- June 15, 2006 6:19 PM
Name one way soccer's more boring than Michigan football.
- June 15, 2006 6:21 PM
- Yost said...
Ok, it's not. I was wrong. Soccer is the most exciting thing on earth. I actually just became fully aroused typing the word "soccer." How could I have been so blind?
- June 15, 2006 6:23 PM
- CrimeNotes said...
Ugh...yost, too bad for you. Saying you don't like soccer because it isn't enough like U.S. pro sports in the U.S. (not enough witty advertisements) is definitely not bolstering the percetion of your IQ. If you understand the game, there IS always something going on...positioning, testing of defenses and opposing players for weaknesses...you just have to know what to look for when you watch.
Same could be said of chess.
Or figure skating.
Just because something is complicated or difficult doesn't make it everyone's taste. I'm not going to watch timed calculus face-offs just because the competitors are skilled.
Maybe it's a chicken-and-the-egg thing between defensive soccer fans feeling bashed by parochial Americans, and non-soccer sports fans sick of being lectured by whiny, holier-than-thou soccer fans. I was neutral on the sport until about a month ago, but after having the stupid game shoved in my face by obnoxious, sanctimonious soccer fans and hearing inane lectures from the papa steves and reed4aus of the world, I will no longer remain silent.
There's only one way to settle this: An ultimate fighting death match between the 2005 NCAA First Team All-Americans and the international soccer superstars of your choice. May the best sport live.
- June 15, 2006 6:53 PM
- Reed4AU said...
I don't agree with the statement that people who don't like soccer are stupid or uneducated. They just don't like and that's fine. However, people trying to compare the level of athletes in the World Cup to athletes in American professional is a ludicrous point. I'm sure if America only had soccer as the major sport for the last 100 years we would be great at it and most would love it. On the opposite end of the spectrum if Brazil had money to support such a league and they played American football for the last 100 years they would very good.
Although your and everyone's point about some of the crazy fans and the ridiculous things they do, don't forget about the violence that sometimes erupts between American sport fans. There's a freakin jail in the Eagle's stadium for goodness sake. I'm an Auburn alum and some of the stuff that has taken place during and around the Iron Bowl has been ridiculous stupid and violent. The game in '89 actually used snipers to protect the visiting Bama fans, because it was the first Iron Bowl ever played at our home. Last year a Bama fan yelled roll tide at an Auburn party which led to a fight when the dipshit stabbed a few people. I know there are countless other things that have happened at other schools and professional stadiums. As far as the Nazi thing, well although there are racists everywhere I can name a few instances at different schools where students wore KKK outfits as a halloween costume.
- June 15, 2006 7:08 PM
- Papa Steve said...
Crimenotes....LOL. Nice one.
Okay, so perhaps I went a bit overboard. My apologies, but you have to understand that when you bash soccer you are keeping company with a lot of people that make statments like 'it is a third world pastime', as if everything outside the U.S. is third world.
So if a few nazis in Germany are racist, then everyone in the soccer world is the same way? As if that doesn't occur in the U.S.?
- June 15, 2006 7:12 PM
Papa Steve,
I agree with everything that you said about fútbol. I work with Polish woman and to see her today after last nights loss to Germany hurt my heart. Of course I would feel the same way everytime that I see Mexico and the U.S. despite the fact that both her and I are U.S. citizens. I also see an easy comparison between fútbol and college football since they are both the same in so many ways, except fútbol is on a global level.
Reed4u, I am in pretty good shape since I run six miles everyday and I sometimes play fútbol with a group of Turkish national police officers who spemd their on duty time fighting Al Qaeda, you should hear some of their stories. But them and myself agree that even though we are in much better shape than your average American we are still nowhere near as in shape as someone who plays fútbol for a living. Yet when I see your average football players, and I love the sport since I was born and raised in the beautiful conference of the Pac-10 and also love the Big-10 (except for tOSU), I still do not want to be anywhere near the size of the average football player or the average American for the fact.
But one thing that we have to accept is that Yost is one of the contributors of this great blog and the rest of us are only visitors. As such we must show the same respect as when we ride in someones car or visit a home that is not our own.
Like everyone else I am just expressing my opinion.
- June 15, 2006 7:36 PM
- Yost said...
Anon 4,
You can ride in my car anytime, brutha.
- June 15, 2006 7:42 PM
That made my day Yost. You West Virginian teetotaling son of an ex-Confederate officer.
- June 15, 2006 7:49 PM
- nico said...
The US as 3rd tier athletes on our world cup team, yet, we are still ranked in the Top 20 in the world.
You think football rankings suck? Think college basketball rankings are worthless?
The FIFA soccer rankings are the biggest joke on earth.
Having the USA ranked ahead of Argentina, Italy and Germany is the college football equivalent of having TCU ranked ahead of Ohio State, Penn State and West Virginia in '05. Yeah, they had a good run against mediocre competition and might knock off a quality team every now and then, but everyone under the sun KNOWS they aren't top 5 material.
- June 15, 2006 7:52 PM
- Yost said...
Good point, Nico. While I don't (obviously) follow soccer, I have heard the FIFA rankings are more insane than Phil Fulmer's USA TODAY Coaches Poll ballot in '97.
- June 15, 2006 7:55 PM
Soccer is like the metric system.
Since I was a kid I have heard that both were coming to America,
like it or not they will both take over the U.S. I'm still waiting.
By the way, soccer blows!!!
- June 15, 2006 7:58 PM
Wow, you hate soccer, and you need to tell everybody about it. Original. I eagerly await your "You know, airplane food isn't very good post." Hack.
- June 15, 2006 8:04 PM
Lay off airline food, ASSHOLE!!!!
- June 15, 2006 8:08 PM
- Reed4AU said...
Things I like in sports and in the correct order"
1-College football
2-NFL ffotball
3-M-Zone/EDSBS/Deadspin and the like
4-World Cup
5-College Basketball
6-EPL(Premier League)
7-Big East football
8-College Lacrosse
10-Australian rules football
11-Elitist overrated independent teams from Indiana ranked on name alone
12-F1 Racing
16-giving a shit about a stupid horse's broken leg
- June 15, 2006 8:15 PM
- Yost said...
I love how you have "College football" at #1 but "Big East football" at #7. LOL!
- June 15, 2006 8:24 PM
Go to this link, look at pic no. 2 and tell me you don't love soccer.
- June 15, 2006 8:30 PM
- Reed4AU said...
God bless Sweden!
- June 15, 2006 8:37 PM
- BaggyPantsDevil said...
I'm with Yost on this, I don't like soccer either. For the most part, I make no value judgements with my dislike of the sport. I simply didn't grow up watching it so it looks to me like a bunch of people simply running around kicking a ball and I just don't have the spare time to sit and watch soccer games in order to be able to recognize the nuances of the game every four years when everyone is excited about the World Cup. So I don't like it, but I do understand that it's not all soccer's fault.
That aside, the breaks in the action of college football ARE important so I can go piss and get more beer and nachos. Sure, sometimes there are a few too many back to back timeouts or something that stops the game, but, I'm glad they're there. Beer is important, people. And, if you already have a beer, you can talk shit to the people around you during these breaks.
Just think of how many rabid soccer fans missed the "Hand of God" because they were thirsty? Or missed Archie Gemmill score against Holland in 1978 because their badder was about to burst?
Additionally, I take a sort of iconoclastic sense of pride that the US isn't falling all over itself to love a sport just because everyone else in the world does. Hat's off to Canada, too, for being with us on this. Just like I'm glad we refuse to adopt the metric system. I hope that never, ever, ever takes hold here.
- June 15, 2006 8:45 PM
Thank God we don't have the metric system. I'd hate to say "I have a .3048 meter dick." It sounds much better with inches.
- June 15, 2006 8:52 PM
I'm with you Yost...I like a lot of excitement. I remember this one game where this black guy threw the ball 64 yards with no time left, and this other black guy caught it, and beat this other team that was ranked higher. It was played in the Midwest, I believe. That was exciting.
- June 15, 2006 9:07 PM
I wasn't saying soccer's exciting. I was just taking a cheapshot at M football.
DON'T compare the metric system to soccer. Soccer sucks. The metric system kicks ass. You try making it through a physics test spending a half-hour converting units. You try finding gravitational forces having to insert some goddamn Gc constant to convert lbf to lbm. And what the fuck is a lb-mol?
Working with torque wrenches having to div/12 to get from lb-in to lb-ft. Pain in the goddamn ass! What difference does it make to you if you have to grab an 18mm wrench instead of 3/4", yet most mechanics will get pissed off if an engineer starts talking in Nm or mm.
P.S. Since tone doesn't always come across on the internet: Unnecessary outrage, meant to be taken tongue-in-cheek.
- June 15, 2006 9:08 PM
You son of a bitch. 0.3048 m dick my ass. How about 7.62 cm? You get to round it up to 8! And, 8 cm sounds bigger than 3". See, SI isn't so bad.
- June 15, 2006 9:17 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
the two biggest lies they teach you in school- that soccer is the sport of the future, and that you'll need to know the metric system.
you can live your whole life w/ out really understanding either one.
is this a great country or what?
- June 15, 2006 9:58 PM
Way to parrot what seventeen other people said. You're not Jayson Blair, are you?
- June 15, 2006 10:48 PM
The metric system is easy to understand. All you need to know is 10 as in Big Ten. There was that so hard. Of course I was brought up on it so I hate the Imperial system. Nearly drove me nuts using engineering textbooks by American authors at university. Instead of learning one number to convert any unit you need to know a different number for everything. Especially since most of them are completely arbitrary. Sorry I had to get my two cents in about the metric system. Back to the actual topic. Soccer sucks. Well not really. It's just kind of boring. If you weren't raised on it there is a good chance you agree with me. If you were raised on it then you probably don't understand why anyone would feel that way. I can sympathize. I'm Canadian and I don't understand why Americans don't love hockey but do love baseball. Although I do have a theory.
- June 15, 2006 11:57 PM
My 2 favorite sports, by far, are football and hockey. Pretty much the only ones I watch. One thing they both share - LEGAL HITTING.
I like football for the chess-like quality of the matchups on the individual plays, and espcially in college football, the wild variations in systems teams will use.
Hockey for the sheer speed, and while sometimes the scores are similar to soccer, there are 50x more scoring chances in a typical hockey game than in a single soccer game (this is soccer's biggest problem IMO). Plus I play the sport myself.
Basketball - Too much scoring, and WAY to many TO's at the end of close games. Boring.
Baseball - Too much standing around. Fun to play, boring to watch.
Golf - Fun to play, boring to watch.
NASCAR - Cars in circles?? Seriously??
Lacrosse - I have to mention this, a weird mix of football, basketball, and hockey, but fun as all hell to watch. Don't get many opportunities to though.
I think the person who made the comment earlier had it right, even soccer fans are bored and use the games as excuses to drink and raise hell. In this respect the fans resemble those of SEC football.
- June 15, 2006 11:59 PM
I think everyone's getting so offended because people aren't just saying that dislike something, but disrespecting it.
Soccer is a complex game that involves strategy and "nuances." That doesn't mean you have to like it. But if you don't like it, don't just say it's stupid.
Likewise, don't insult auto racing, which is a favorite of mine. It also involves nuances and strategy and complexity just like any other sport. People like to say it's just "going in circles"...which is true, just like football is just throwing a ball around and running into each other and basketball is just throwing a ball around and soccer is just kicking a ball around.
Anything can sound stupid if you want it to.
- June 16, 2006 12:02 PM
Soccer and auto racing are stupid.
When the hell did people get so delicate?
- June 16, 2006 4:39 PM
Nobody's going to ever read this comment, as I stumbled on this post two weeks late. I don't care, because the Canadian summoned my hatred for English Engineering units. For whoever invented pound-masses and BTUs, I hope all the bad things in life happen to them and only to them.
I also love watching baseball and I think someone has to defend it. I played it and I follow the hitting count, as the average results of an at-bat with a first pitch strike or first pitch ball are wildly different. But I'll admit I was bored by it before I played it competitively.
- June 27, 2006 10:21 PM
- Yost said...
We read all, Anon.
- June 27, 2006 11:50 PM
I like Soccer and wish that we had Soccer world cup every year.
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Saturday, September 01, 2007
Michigan vs. Appalachian State - Open Thread
Things to ponder before (or even during) Michigan's first foray into I-AA football:
* AppState is at least a top to mid-level MAC team. Do they have a chance against the Wolverines?
* Based on AppState being at least decent, what would it take for you to be impressed/disappointed with Michigan today?
* For those without DirectTV, how are you going to follow the game?
* Which other games will hold your interest, and who's primed to be an upset victim in Week 1?
All right, enough questions. Let's kick some Mountaineer ass.
48 comments:
- whetstonebuck said...
I know this isn't supposed to be much of a contest, but just for kicks, what sort of self-destruction might you entertain should the Wolverines stumble and "shudder" give this game away.
I only ask because the comments on this blog keep me in stitches and I need a good laugh.
- September 01, 2007 12:48 AM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Tonite on the Jimmy Kimmel show, there was a sketch piece of comedy with Jimmy's uncle and Guillermo talking about going back to college.
And what was the background music for the sketch? Why only the greatest fight song in the land... Jimmy Kimmel played "The Victors"!!!
Go Blue...
The best thing about living out West? Rolling out of bed and turning on the game just in time to see the opening kickoff!
- September 01, 2007 2:29 AM
- Q1Go said...
From my point of view, this is a no-win game. Either we thrash them and look like bullies (and still don't defy expectations), or the game is close and we're embarrassed. Or we lose, in which case we all have to kill ourselves.
- September 01, 2007 7:17 AM
- RTBDTHRTR said...
At least there will be some good looking women in Ann Arbor for a change...
- September 01, 2007 9:38 AM
- whetstonebuck said...
"Or we lose, in which case we all have to kill ourselves."
Ann Arbor would be like sunrise on Jonestown. Kool-Aid, anyone?
- September 01, 2007 10:02 AM
- Edgar said...
When I have not been able to see a game I have used the new fangled Internets that Coach Bobby Bowden has talked so much about to listen to the broadcast. I did this to listen to the local language Spanish broadcast of the USA Chivas - LA Galaxy soccer game or the Cal at New Mexico State football game that was broadcast in Navajo.
- September 01, 2007 11:44 AM
- buckidrummer said...
So i'm watching BTN, seeing all these 'this is big ten country' commercials. Could they be any worse? I mean seriously?? They're horrible!!
- September 01, 2007 11:57 AM
- Joshua said...
Wasn't looking forward to the BTN, but the coverage is good so far. It's nice being able to flip over to the Penn St or OSU games during commercials, and the announcers aren't horrible like i expected.
And HELLO Charissa Thompson. That's one sideline reporter who's hot as all crazy hell.
- September 01, 2007 12:28 PM
- Mike said...
Not too thrilled about seeing a tie score on Gamecast in the 2nd quarter...
Not only do i not get the Big Ten Network in NYC, but now I looked up Charissa Thompson, and holy hell i'm jealous that cablevision sucks
- September 01, 2007 12:57 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
Mike... ASU is taking it to Michigan. They are faster than Michigan at just about every position.
You'll be even more pissed to see a 14 point deficit on gamecast at halftime.
I imagine the rest of the coaches are looking at this game and salivating -- spread offense kills Michigan -- we saw it with tOSU, in the Rose Bowl and now with ASU.
- September 01, 2007 1:32 PM
- srudoff said...
how about a 14 pt deficit before the half then?
sure you guys will win but DAMN this is awesome
- September 01, 2007 1:33 PM
- Andy said...
I am not sure we will ever stop them with our D.
- September 01, 2007 1:36 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
I think I hear all the DumpLloyd.coms gearing up.
It will have to be a wild second half and even then spinning the PR after the game will be a tough sell.
- September 01, 2007 1:38 PM
- Stephen said...
down 11..... good job Blue!
(glad I can't watch this game)
- September 01, 2007 1:46 PM
- IamCris said...
What's more troublesome to me than the halftime score is the announcer on the BTN. I swear to Christ and all things sacred that he is an ASU grad. Aside from that, enjoy the second half, i'm not certain any of you with Comcast would want to watch this disection of Michigan anyways. Yep, after 10 am on the west coast... time to get drunk. Oh yeah, Go Blue!!! I'm calling it right here, second half comeback for the ages and an 3 OT win on a failed 2pt conversion by ASU.
- September 01, 2007 1:53 PM
- IamCris said...
Footnote to my last post*
*DVD of game synced to radio broadcast for sale next year.
- September 01, 2007 1:57 PM
- spike said...
If by the grace of God Himself we win this game, then go on to win every game this season, this will be Michigan's defining game. No matter what we do from here on in - trash talk will all start with the words "Appy State".
My God this will be a long season.
- September 01, 2007 2:07 PM
- Stephen said...
well.... could be down by 4...
Seems that English crawled up the DBs asses...
- September 01, 2007 2:09 PM
- AD said...
Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is SOOOOO Funny!
I guess App St. is turning your world upside down huh?
Ha Ha!!!!!
- September 01, 2007 2:10 PM
- Stephen said...
ok... I meant 8 down...
Gotta love this offense that is supposed to be able to put up 30+ points a game....
- September 01, 2007 2:13 PM
- whetstonebuck said...
You're in someone else's house. A little class would go a long way.
- September 01, 2007 2:15 PM
- JD said...
If "Hot Hot Hot" University pulls off the upset, would they be eligible for Top 25 votes.
- September 01, 2007 2:27 PM
- Joshua said...
Class? I'm guessing he must be a Buckeye, and we all know how much of that they have. Anyone who doubts this should check out the current Michigan Stadium entry at Wikipedia- some jackass editied it to start the history section with "Fuck Michigan".
And wtf is the deal with our inability to defend against the spread offense? Can someone please teach the coaching staff the meaning of "adjustment"?
- September 01, 2007 2:29 PM
- dtw2phx said...
What the FUCK is going on back there???? JC!!! (I hate having to catch this game on the web.) God this blows.
- September 01, 2007 2:33 PM
- Jim said...
This is brutal. Who's watching this? Are they better than we thought or are we that much worse? #5 was always a little high, but come on...
- September 01, 2007 2:38 PM
- Dave said...
I think we all owe a big thanks to Jim Delany and the BTN for not letting us see this game. THANK YOU!!!
- September 01, 2007 2:47 PM
- Bond J. Bond said...
If you think the Big10 commercials are bad - check this one out...
- September 01, 2007 2:48 PM
- Joshua said...
couldn't you guys find a bar that has directtv?
- September 01, 2007 2:53 PM
- buckidrummer said...
To add insult to injury, after the YSU/OSU game, btn is cutting all of columbus to the UM game. I apologize in advance for what you might see on this board at that point
- September 01, 2007 2:57 PM
- dtw2phx said...
Dave - AMEN!!! (lol)
Joshua - Yeah, I think the BW3s down the road has it on, but I wasn't about to break ass to get down there by 9am (NOW I'm glad I didn't waste any energy to!) :-) (God I can't wait until we're only 2-hours 'apart'!!! lol)
- September 01, 2007 2:59 PM
- Jim said...
The ESPN Gamecast sucks. I checked back and it says it's 35-34 Michigan...but it's not...I don't think. Did I say this thing sucks?
- September 01, 2007 2:59 PM
- Jim said...
Mark May just said that even if Michigan holds on to win, they shouldn't be a top 20 team. This is an embarassing showing, but that's just Cowherd-level provocation.
- September 01, 2007 3:28 PM
- T said...
Fire Lloyd Carr
- September 01, 2007 3:46 PM
- dtw2phx said...
I'm supposed to come home for the Minnesota game -- anyone want my tickets??!!? (lol) JC!! What a fuckin joke!
I think I'm gonna go throw up now.
- September 01, 2007 3:47 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
I don't disagree with Mark May one bit. Michigan shouldn't be ranked on Monday period. Never before has a 1-AA team beat a ranked 1-A team on the road... EVER! Every other game was pretty much a blow out today.
Congrats to ASU. Well Done.
Fire Carr... hire Les Miles.
- September 01, 2007 3:50 PM
- Joshua said...
- September 01, 2007 3:55 PM
- Joshua said...
- September 01, 2007 3:55 PM
- Joshua said...
Don't know what's up w/the double post. You know, if we were gonna lose, couldn't they have not completed that last pass that gave us a bit of hope?
- September 01, 2007 3:58 PM
- Jim said...
I know someone will explain how none of this is lloyd's fault, but what are we supposed to think? Are we really no better than a really good 1-AA team, or did lloyd's team show up unprepared? unmotivated? Special teams, anyone? When does lloyd finally share in the blame?
I don't like to think of myself as a lloyd-basher, but there has been so much gut-wrenching disappointment in recent years after the tease of so much talent. I just need to see a change. Personally.
- September 01, 2007 4:02 PM
- BigJim61 said...
I am a Saluki (SIU, another I-AA) and am so proud of what App State was able to do. In the past few years there have been some upsets of teams like Northwestern or Colorado by fellow I-AA schools, but this is the biggest one yet~ just hope this doesn't mean the "big schools" will stop scheduling the "little guys". Go mountaineers!
- September 01, 2007 4:23 PM
- BUCKIH8TR said...
- September 01, 2007 6:06 PM
- your wrong said...
wow that was 3 strikes if i ever saw!
- September 01, 2007 7:04 PM
- matt said...
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- September 01, 2007 7:13 PM
- matt said...
* AppState is at least a top to mid-level MAC team. Do they have a chance against the Wolverines?
uh... yeah. once again, the wolverines are to sloooooow on defense, and lack the balls to stretch the defense out with the occasional long ball.
* Based on AppState being at least decent, what would it take for you to be impressed/disappointed with Michigan today?
impressed: win by 30
disappointed: anything else
* For those without DirectTV, how are you going to follow the game?
go to a bar; drink myself into a coma
* Which other games will hold your interest, and who's primed to be an upset victim in Week 1?
none - michigan has scared any potential upset victim into playing well today.
- September 01, 2007 7:16 PM
- threadogg said...
spread offense just killed us out there..I really didn't think we could ever hope to reload the defense the way some thought. last years team was a dream that just fell short, teams like that only come around once a decade at most. now some will say it should have been Lloyd's swan song..maybe it should have been.
- September 01, 2007 7:47 PM
- Smitty said...
Why on earth would Les Miles move to Michigan or anyone else for that matter?
- September 02, 2007 1:16 AM
- Boze said...
This may have been the best game I ever saw...the only contest would be sitting in the stands at Kinnick a couple years ago watching all the sad-faced Ohio State fans shaking their heads as they got completely shellacked. But Michigan losing at home to a 1AA team? You can't hardly help feeling there might be a God. And if there is, his message was obviously: "I hate Michigan."
So even though Q1GO said "Or we lose, in which case we all have to kill ourselves", I'd suggest not doing so at least until you have atoned for the sin of rooting for the Blue.
- September 02, 2007 4:57 PM
- Lucky7Star said...
Atonement for some of nasty comments about our Caitlin Upton too… You think our football is tough try a tango or two with the women in these parts… That's Guaranteed to provide the fear of God for the curious doubt. As far as the comments concerning the dear Strom Thrumond, I'm sure that God has a gracious and forgiving heart, and as the longest serving Senator since the time of Cicero, I'm sure he'll provide absolution for your multiple sins, failing penance you can use my Barney gun… Cause its only got one bullet which I'm sure I could find at least one decent Yankee to waste it upon. The rest of you can just stand in line and hammer each other to death with the butt. An asinine way to go, I know, but proper penitence does require a poetic justice factor… Death by ass-by-ass nation, should cover a multitude of sins.
Or you might consider just sending out free copies of "The Greatest Upset in College Football History" The special gift set edition (you know the one with the complimentary Bullet included for Big Blue Fans that one might invite over) DVD with the radio commentary back track plz, as a small measure of atonement.
Really thanks for the memories.
Go ASU!
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Mike the old guy is admiring the kids bracelet and trying
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Not that locker room porn isn't great, but there's just something so much better about the real thing.
"The penis mightier then the sword!"That's right... right?
I've actually seen a long dick like that in the locker room before.
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looks fun
I got two locker room questions.
WHY is it that old farts like me go around unabashedly naked, while the young studs with bodies to kill for change under towels. Who the hell ever heard of changing underneath a towel?
NEXT, what about guys with tattoos with writing on them? I feel compelled to try to read them, but feel that might be inappropriate. Why put a billboard on your sexy bod if you do not want it read?
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At camp there were 10 of us in 1 room and all changed in front of each other - no privacy - and none expected.
Stay over a friends you would change in front of each other. We were all guys so we were not supposed to think a thing about it - even though I suspect we all looked.
Sure we were self conscious, especially in jr high - before that and after that it did not matter so much but those few years you were very aware of it - but you changed and that was that.
Just to add in my 2 cents. I went to a boarding school, and in our dorm we had gang showers. Two poles in the middle of a room with eight shower heads, and mornings were a great time.
No one cared about being naked in front of each other. It wasn't a big deal. Well, it may have been a big deal for some, especially if they knew about those of us who were memorizing the goods.
A few years after I graduated, the school decided that it may be too embarrassing for some guys to take showers with other guys, so they took out the poles and put in stalls.
I think that if more walls were taken down, rather then put up, more guys would be more comfortable with themselves being naked around others, and once you get used to it, it's not a big deal.
But hey, what do I know.
P.S. We once went on a camp outing with the Juniors and Seniors, and there was this cute teacher I had a crush on, and I was getting out of one of the camp ground showers, and this teacher was waiting to get in, and it was the first time I realized that you didn't have to have a big cock to be smoking hot!
"The penis mightier then the sword!"That's right... right?
I do remember (Who could forget?) that first gym class in Jr. High, and the mandatory "gang" shower afterward. Self conscious? Oh, Yeah!!
I kept thinking "toward" my dick, "Don't get hard! DON'T Get Hard!! DON'T GET HARD!!!"
And though during those days, even just thinking about thinking about my dick would bone "him" up, the Anxiety, and FEAR of an erection in the locker room, and the likely derision, and teasing, that would surely ensue, worked to keep "him" soft! WHEW!
Eventually, with increased, daily, exposure, of "him", amongst so many others, mostly soft (some semi) dangling and swinging about, that imposed "rite of passage" had it's intended effect, and soon it was, indeed, No Big Deal! Wet, Naked, Guys became merely other guys. (Well, at least IN the locker room! )
Yes, we were being purposefully "broken down", our anxiety, and self consciousness was successfully crushed, and obliterated, much like being in the military.
And, yes, though it could be a bit traumatic, at first, I think it was a "Good Thing" overall!
Something that most guys of "Today" seem to have, sorrowfully, lost.
Keep smilin'!!
WISDOM is the Knowledge you've gained ... After you could have used it! _Me
My gym teacher explained the rules simple to us 7th graders on
like the first day. He gave us the pep talk as we were changing
in the locker room next to the OPEN SHOWER.
Something like this..."Listen up pussies (yeah, they could talk like that...
they were Coaches not English teachers) You will wear gym clothes
and jocks are gym clothes. You wear them instead of not with underwear.
You will all strip and shower and clean up. You better be on your period
if you don't.
But that was before SOCIETY got 'enlightened I guess. Strange, the same
guys you skinny-dipped (and other stuff) with all summer got so shy at gym
class. Dumb Coach made it all easier.
just some work out buds
some after workout relaxing.
some more spotters
We have all seen this photo around everywhere...this week I found out where it comes from
such a fox
Dunhill...I have jacked to that pic so many times wondering where it came from. To finally see him naked is huge! Anyway to get a screencap of when he is bent over...almost showing his hole? I tried but it was real blurry. Can you get a clear one?
Thanks so much
more locker hottness
Breaking the thread instructions here, and I know I'm awful for doing it, but I had to share: The ever adorable Brock Hart is in a porno involving him "accidentally" getting knocked out in a lockerroom and then as expected, sex ensues. Anyway, what I really like is the outtakes vid I'll be linking to. Very hot. http://www.rockettube.com/Gay-Porn-S...Out-takes.html
How observant and the pro - hooders lost it ,
The thread did require guys' in the locker room
No mention of nationality or a need of foreskin
an impressive collection. have had those pics for a while.
what vid is it from? I think I might enjoy it


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Thanks for staying in the closet and ignoring the biggest crisis in your city during your time as mayor.
Thank you being the mayor that could but didn't address the aids crisis in your city.
Thanks for staying in the closet and ignoring the biggest crisis in your city during your time as mayor.
Thank you being the mayor that could but didn't address the aids crisis in your city.
^maybe but when a gay man ignores issues that might help others like him I consider him a coward
if you keep silent then that silence is an injustice or maybe just criminal
I remember him from People's Court more than as the mayor of NYC. He wasn't a very good judge.
God answers all prayers. Most of the time, though, the answer is 'No'.
^ to compare harvey milk to koch is an insult to a man who was truly amazing
to say that he did what was best for the city is myopic at best and ignorance at worst.
to insult a man who could have and should have been a been a better person because of his stature is not insulting is just re-enforcing what he did to himself and to his people.
the link I provided was just a newswire thing not anything else.
Didn't realize he was that old.
There was rumor he was gay.
RIP Mr Mayor.
I can't find the quote, but I believe he once responded to questions about his sexuality by saying something along the lines of "I resent the question, because it's asked in a way that implies being gay is something you should deny, or should be ashamed of. And I don't think that's the way it should be." Again, that was back in the 1970s.
Not a rumor. He stayed in the closet as successfully as Liberace.
Concern yourself with the Northwest Passage or even your mayor. Otherwise shut up and go shovel snow.
Sorry I forgot you're Canadian and therefore beloved by the mods. That dosn't keep you from being an idiot.
With all possible love,
He was a good guy---more a gay celibate than gay gay---some guys that old r just are old school about their private life. He loved his city and if you r a New Yorker, you know where he's coming from. RIP.
He was a good guy---more a gay celibate, married to his career---(I actually know a guy, an attorney, who looks like a young Koch who is also a gay celibate, not someone who would do well in the gay dating world) I mean Koch lived in the Village all his life and there were never any pics of him with a boyfriend or hanging out at happy hour in a gay bar. He loved NYC and did his best. RIP.
wow so much love for him.
but yet again silence is deadly.
should I get into how the homeless were treated when he was mayor?
As far as I know he supported gay rights back in the 70's when no one was---as far as AIDS crisis in America in the 80's, you won't fine too many elected political hero's --doing all they should have done---fucked up but true, hard to judge.
Interesting read in the NYT with lively comments.
Edward Koch, Former Mayor of New York, Dies at 88
Koch is universally accepted as an effective political leader who literally saved NYC from Detroit's path. Simply, gay "leaders" never liked Koch because they wanted him to be East Coast's Milk, but it was his choice not to be one. He is accused of "self loathing, selling out," etc. In later years, his own liberals hated him because he was "crossing party lines," so the negative smear continued. NYC was in dire situation during his leadership: facing bankruptcy, high crime rates, homelessness, city agencies hanging on the line, public transit was horrible, and on top of that the limousine liberals in charge of the state and city were involved in all sorts of corruption. Decades later, Koch was very open about what he regretted doing to save the city. Very few politicians admit their mistakes. Years after Koch's term, NYC Health Department leadership was pushing for banning gay bath houses which were AIDS meccas, but the gay leadership again were on revolt accusing the city of discrimination and homophobia. They wanted the government to quickly invent some magical cure and hand it out for free so they can continue to party in the village, but reality wasn't so rosy.
"Gay activists had long bashed Koch for his silence on his sexuality, with some even charging that his reticence contributed to the AIDS plague.
"We must never forget that this man was an active participant in helping us to die, in murdering us," playwright Larry Kramer wrote in 2012.
Kramer was irate at Koch, in his function as a movie critic, for offering positive reaction to a documentary about AIDS called, "How to Survive a Plague."
But Koch unabashedly defended his record on gay rights and his support of the gay community.
In 1984, he became the first mayor to march in the city's Gay Pride Parade. He also boasted of appointing gay judges and introducing a bill in Congress with former New York Rep. Bella Abzug to outlaw discrimination based on sexual orientation.
One of his first acts as mayor was to ban such discrimination by city agencies." http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...1252984?pgno=1
How people forget quickly that our current liberal Governor Andrew Cuomo (who is now a hero in the gay world for passing gay marriage in NY) was running smear campaigns for his dad against Koch using the slogans "Vote For Cuomo Not The Homo." Koch never forgave them for that; I believe the constant witch-hunt to figure out Koch's private life and sexual orientation did turn him off from greater involvement in the LGBT scene. But for a politician to march as the first mayor in gay pride parades or push for none discrimination laws in the city for gays, is very contradictory to a politician who was "complicit in murdering gays in the AIDS epidemic." Today, it's not a challenge for a politician to attend gay rights causes and accept GLAAD awards when gay rights became socially hip.
I don't like his choice of being silent when voices needed to be heard.
http://www.advocate.com/politics/pol...ered-questionsKochs hubris seems to be his lack of empathy (not as bad as Rudolph Giulianis, but close), be it with the black community on the closing of a hospital in Harlem, or his unsympathetic response to the murder of a black man at the hands of white youths in Brooklyn; or his lack of compassion, whether real or perceived, at the time of the AIDS crisis in the '80s."
gay borthers? intenret 2 special folk spen all time cut anythnag long they look nice snot
wot is 1st world think shit is?
gold on da day or wen fins a there awsum news a crap
or millions a people is alwedy figa wot is ans not cause sumone gonna say
millions a people say so
1st world awsum folk a lands luv play news fit there play
so maybe news media end year give alls PUBLIC awsum one big VERY GURD here gold star but planet dead not a worry
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£ lucky marsians no invadin £
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ya is a 1
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Mayor Koch was irritating, grumpy, a pain in the ass, and obnoxious. And those were his good qualities. I disliked him for many years. He happens to be the best mayor we have had in my lifetime (I'm over 50). He took over as Mayor when the City was in dire straights and turned things around. He did not decimate social services, he did not demonize unions, he was not anti-working class and poor people, he was not the mayor of the 1%. All in contrast to our current mayor, Bloomberg, who is horrible. The wrong mayor died today. RIP Ed Koch.
Good grief. I see no evidence that the man was a stranger to controversy in his lifetime or that he would have blushed from debate in the strongest terms. His legacy is debatable. But I doubt he would have framed any argument about style or substance in terms of "well that's wrong because a Canadian said it." Seriously.
Koch was a mayor of a great city.
Name one north of the US.
great city carpets
* ooh look at dat? *
lift up
* ooh sure *
not ya butt da carpet
* ooh
And select people in this thread are debating the passport of the opinion-holder, rather than the opinion. It's ineffective and unconvincing. I have no bone to pick with your presentation of points in his favour on the issue of equality. And normally I would agree that it does a seemly courtesy to the memory of the deceased to focus on his accomplishments on the day of his death, rather than his failings. But I do know enough of the persona of Ed Koch from having seen him in interviews over the years, that he would be neither surprised nor wounded that his legacy would be debated before the sun sets the first day of his absence. That was my only disagreement with you.
But for all who are more concerned with snow than opinions, the snow melted here today; go shovel your own.
Ed Koch was so many contradictory things....a lot of people loved him, others loathed him. He had a bigger than life ego but decisive leaders are often flawed people, and he was essential in getting New York turned around...headed for decay he would not let the city he loved go down without him fighting for it. He was an original and will be missed.
You did pretty damn good, Mr. Mayor!
I'm at an absolute loss as to how the opinion of a poster here about 1 issue has turned into a slanging match where that opinion is "bashing Amercia" and the responses are all about shovelling snow and living in a boring country. This place needs to become a reality TV show.
I have no idea who Ed Koch was beyond the articles I've read about him today and a snippet where he was in Sex in the City and Short Bus as himself.
Based on the reactions in this thread, you have to ask yourself if 1 action - or perceived lack thereof - is enough to derail all the good he appears to have achieved.
I remember when Regan died and the viciousness of the Gay community based on his absolute lack of reaction to the GRIDS/HIV/AIDS crisis in the early 80's. I saw none of this "well fuck you you're not American you're not entitled to an opinion" nonsense. From memory I saw nothing but hatred spewed at the man. I find that interesting.
Ed Koch was good for New York City.
He pulled the city out of a true financial mess.
But his goodness ended at the Rockland County line.
He didn't seem to have a very high opinion of upstate New York.
He made some really silly comments about upstaters when he was running for governor.
That was why he lost the chance for his party's nomination....
Nevertheless, he was one of those characters who kept coming back for more.....
Rest in peace Mayor Koch.....
The Three Musketeers... Bashful, Chrisglass, and Ronboy!
see he play good koch and bad koch
_ yaaaaaaaaaY_
ans world saved again
I'm not saying either side is worse than the other, I was simply observing that people outside of the US are entitled to their opinion on a persons achievements or perceived lack. My main thought when I read the post was "how in the hell can 1 opinion get under people's skin so much it derails an entire thread."
And to be blunt, I wasn't actually referring to any one particular post in this thread when I wrote my reply. It's a given on this board that there's going to be a shit storm the minute someone disagrees with another.
Instead of ignoring the negative comments and continuing on with the remember this mans achievements, like every other thread on JUB about a polarising figure, it's lost it's way and is now no longer about the man, but the two countries.
You were probably right in that the 2 threads should never have been combined. If we'd been left with the 2 threads, one for his supporters, the other for his detractors one thread would have plummeted and disappeared fast enough to have had no impact. As it stands combining the two just made certain all hell would break loose.
Looks like SOMEONE ^^^^ just HAS to have the last word -- on everything. Pffftttt...... whatever. Blah blah blah. (oh I'm gonna get it for that I bet, ooooohhhh so skeered!)
A lot of people THINK they're right, and everyone else is WRONG. There's no trying to have a civil discussion with those... it's immediate disseminating rhetoric on full tilt! Their side and only theirs. No true "intelligent" discussion or debate.
And unfortunately this will never change. Sad for those people, all those bitter, angry, closed-minded assholes out there, plain and simple.
The best thing to come out of the greek debacle was the freedom to give one's honest opinion about a world event caused by moronic governance, without being reflexively accused of anti-americanism. Ahh, memories….
At the end of a funeral service for Ed Koch in Manhattan, friends and family applauded the former New York City mayor as the song "New York, New York" played.


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"It remains to be seen how Andy Kerr's departure from Nomeansno will affect the Vancouver trio. But Hissanol, Kerr's new outfit- which pairs him with former Shovelhead-head Scott Henderson-checks in loud and strong. Primarily a manic attack of guitar and drum machine, 4th And Back bristles with additional sirens, buzzers, tapes played backwards and weird TV talk show samples-like something Elliot Sharp might record on his weekends. "Anamosh" and "Sweet "n sour" could almost be called singles, and "Forgetting To Bless" borders on spoken word, but Hissanol is primarily instrumental skronk. And 4th And Back is 18 slices of slightly jazzy, not fully coherent (but enjoyably paranoiac) bombast, a roller-coast through a fine new piece of machinery."- Magnet
"This is a very weird and nifty release from two guys who plumb through quirky new-waveish tunes recorded on a combination of 4-track and reel to reel 8-track. Considering the band's use of slightly cheesy yet very cool synth parts, drum programs, mechanical bass lines, and a sort of robotic vocal delivery, you can see them worshipping Devo on a daily basis. The low-tech production actually adds a lot of character to these bizarre songs, which are further highlighted by goofy lyrics and some very funny spoken word samples. Yes, this CD is very cool, different and very DIY."- Under the Volcano
"This debut release is one of the most welcome and unexpected things to pop through y letterbox since The Lizard started up. Remember the one from Nomeansno who never gave away his name? Variously credited as "Uhh...," "None of Your Fucking Business," "''", etc. - his name is in fact Andy Kerr, and Hissanol is his new thing. I am very glad that he has a new thing because I was led to believe that he'd left music for a new life in Amsterdam. Half-right. He's married with a newborn babe, and conducts his extremely strange collaboration with Scott Henderson, his pal of fifteen years, by post from his Dutch home. (This is kinda necessary, since Scott still lives in Victoria, Canada.)
I am also glad that in spirit Hissanol retain the perkiness of classic Nomeansno releases like 0+2=1, while stylistically foraging in the inaccessible climes of Andy and Scott's archival music collections (that run from "Mark Stewart to Cajun music to Patsy Cline to... John Cooper Clarke") - and unquestionably having fun in the process. Important, that last.
After passing a few tapes forth and back (ho ho) across the Atlantic (matching up their parts, recorded on incompatible tape machines, by a complicated method I don't pretend to understand), they were pleasantly surprised by the results. Then they did "Angra," which Andy accurately describes as "Miles Davis, 70s sounding." All farty and squealy, sloppy, laid back and groovin', its exuberance takes it out of pastiche, through Nomeansnomansland and out into the unknown. "This is really neat, " they said. "We really like this." And Hissanol became firm (but the very opposite of concrete).
Andy's explanation for parting company with Canada's finest export since Rush is perfectly reasonable: "We never used to know what Nomeansno sounded like and after (laughs) nine years or whatever, we kind of found out. It's a very difficult thing to get around: at a certain point you start to sound like yourself."
Sure. A track like 4th and Back's opener, "Anamosh," proves this. It's NOT a helter-skelter ride (helter-skelters being things that take you round and round in a predictable way), but a brief but blissfully terrifying trip on one of those fairground thingies that send you round and round, up and down, and end over end all at once: there's logic there, but it sure as hell don't seem like it when you're in. the bibbling bass, pin-sharp drum machine, and pinched guitar make even the most crazed NMN song seem rather sluggish and obvious. But Andy's stamp is unmistakable. Then there's "Time's Up" (industrial-strength fizz), "Say It Isn't So" (unsettled hypno-bass loop and guitar drift) and "Forgetting to Bless" (randomly dubbed classical fragments)... too many to do proper justice to here. Just buy the flippin' CD, won't you?
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With this appointment, which is effective immediately, Lund is responsible for all engineering and maintenance related to the authority's stations, buildings, bridges, track, communications and signal and power systems. He also oversees the capital construction of both transit and railroad facilities and right-of-way elements. He will report directly to Jeff Knueppel, deputy general manager.
Lund, an 11-year employee, began his career as a structural engineer with Stone and Webster Engineering Corporation in Cherry Hill, N.J. He worked 19 years for the New York Power Authority in various design and management positions associated with transmission, power generation and infrastructure projects. He joined SEPTA in 2001 as the manager of structural engineering. In 2007, he became the deputy director for the Market Street Elevated Reconstruction Project and was involved with all aspects of the $740-million rebuilding. In 2009, he was named senior director of capital construction and also served as SEPTA's program manager for stimulus (ARRA) projects.
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Gordon has more than 40 years of experience in planning, design, construction, maintenance, operations and safety/security in the transportation industry, with a particular focus on freight and passenger railroads, transit systems and intermodal/multimodal operations.
Gordon's experience is in both the private and public sectors, including the U.S. Army. He is a long time, active member of the American Railway Engineering and Maintenance of Way Association (AREMA) and chairs Committee 12-Rail Transit's Subcommittee on Safety and Security.
"I am very excited to bring someone of Gary's caliber to KKCS. His leadership and experience will be instrumental as we continue to grow, especially in the Northeastern market," said Dev Krishnan, president of KKCS.
Prior to joining KKCS, Gordon served as regional security inspector/subject matter expert for the Transportation Security Administration. Gary is a former assistant chief engineer design and construction for the Boston & Maine Railroad/Guilford Rail System, which included the Maine Central Railroad and Delaware & Hudson Railway and the Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority's commuter rail operation.
KKCS also appointed Shan Bhattacharya as a principal.
"We are delighted to have a senior utility and engineering executive of Shan's caliber join our organization," said Krishnan. "We will be looking at Shan to mentor our young staff and help us grow our business in the utility and industrial sectors."
In other news, KKCS opened its Anaheim, Calif., office on East Katella Avenue.
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One of the provisions apparently remaining intact in the "fiscal cliff" legislation emerging this week is the extension of the 2007 Mortgage Forgiveness Debt Relief Act, affecting thousands of short sales under way and in the year ahead.
The extension, in effect until Jan. 4, 2014, allows homeowners to avoid taxation on the amount of debt they are forgiven during the short sale process. Prior to the law's original enactment, any amounts of debt forgiven would be added as taxable gross income for that tax year.
This was known as Cancellation of Debt (COD) Income. The amount could be as high as $2 million on the home seller's principal residence. Oh, and the debt must have been from either the purchase or improvement of the principal residence of the home seller.
Financing and real estate experts nationwide hailed the extension as a positive step towards the housing recovery. Here in Central PA, homeowners embroiled in the short sale process (and there are many) will likely breathe a sigh of relief – especially in light of all the other tax increases coming this year.
Jeff Geoghan is vice president of marketing and communications for Coldwell Banker Select Professionals and Select Services, based in Lancaster City, with 10 offices in eight Central Pennsylvania counties. Jeff lives in East Petersburg, where he also serves as mayor. Jeff has been actively involved in local government and business and has been used as a source by local, regional and national publications.


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