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Saturday, November 18, 2006
Michigan-Ohio State Thread
If you're interested in leaving a note or comment about Bo Schembechler, you may do so here.
159 comments:
Good luck in Columbus, Yost!
RIP, Bo a true lose to the college football community.
Buckeyes 28 - M*ch*gan 13
Go Buckeyes!!!!!
Next stop Glendale!!!!
- November 17, 2006 2:21 PM
- srudoff said...
I don't think we're gonna see much trash talking before The Game this year. Both sides still in shock over Bo.
Good Luck tomorrow.
- November 17, 2006 2:22 PM
It will definitely be interesting to hear on Sunday how the atmosphere was this year.
I would imagine it will be a little more respectful of the rivalry, and not as ugly as years past. Inevitably, there will be a few drunk idiots on both sides, but overall I imagine it won't be that bad. We'll see...
- November 17, 2006 2:33 PM
Yeah....I just don't have the heart to talk trash...
Gotta love how Anon 11:21 am is already looking towards Glendale!
Looking forward to a wake up call!
- November 17, 2006 2:40 PM
The atmosphere is ELECTRIC here on campus. The lake jump last night was the best I've ever seen. Safe travels and stay for all those coming in from the North. Go Bucks!!
- November 17, 2006 2:40 PM
- MGOBLUE94 said...
Go MICHIGAN ... Beat the $uckeyes.
Its great to be a MICHIGAN WOLVERINE!!
My prediction prior to Bo passing was 21-17 Michigan
Michigan 24 o$u 13
Michigan will roll up the sleeves and play Bo Smash Mouth football.
- November 17, 2006 2:41 PM
Thank you Bo for everything you did for UM & its fans everywhere!
You will be missed.
Go Blue, win 1 for Bo!!!!
- November 17, 2006 3:09 PM
Very Sad. Something that would come from a drama.
Michigan will win one for him by catching those whatever they're called off guard.
Michigan: 30
#^&%*!*$: 17
- November 17, 2006 3:19 PM
Have a good time.
I'm sorry about the long drive home you'll have after an OSU victory.
I love your site.
Go Bucks
- November 17, 2006 3:46 PM
- surrounded in columbus said...
for once, i completely agree w/ you.
this game was huge to him & Woody, but it was just a game. their continued friendship over the years should remind us the proper place of this game and the rivalry.
- November 17, 2006 3:46 PM
Bama fan says good luck beat OSU.
Michigan 24 OSWho 21
- November 17, 2006 4:44 PM
Buckeye fan, I love your site. I am nervous about this one tomorrow, though. Michigan might win it.
Prove me wrong, Buckeyes.
- November 17, 2006 4:54 PM
LSU fan says beat the Buckeyes!!
Go Blue!
- November 17, 2006 5:26 PM
- Zach Landres-Schnur said...
good luck fellas...if you hear any drunk buckeye fans make a crack about bo, you should demonstrate some karate skills.
- November 17, 2006 6:18 PM
- Ali Haji-Sheikh said...
Something that was passed on to me that sums Bo 'the man' (not the coach) up:
"I'm not a former player, one of the guys Bo loved. I'm a former Michigan Daily sports writer, class of 1984, and Bo never had much love for the media or the Daily during his time at the helm. When you covered the team, it was trial by fire; your questions had to be concise and to the point or you'd get the gruff, difficult guy (it made me a much better interviewer, to this day; I recently was in a press conference and asked a question badly and thought to myself that Bo never would have stood for that kind of sloppiness, even from a reporter).
That said, the measure of a man comes away from his day job, and in my case Bo went above and beyond the call.
It was 1983 and Michigan had just defeated OSU and was going to the Sugar Bowl to play Auburn and Bo Jackson. For the Monday presser after the OSU game, Bo comes in as relaxed as any of us had ever seen him. He's got a handful of cigars in his hand (the presser was a small lunch for maybe a dozen people in those days).
He offers them up to the guys in the room, and I'm thinking "I'm going to get my Dad a cigar from Bo. He'll think that's cool."
Well, the guy sitting to my right was a Daily writer who Bo really didn't like much, and when he said he'd take a cigar, Bo made a joke about his age, didn't give him one and moved on. So when my turn came, I was no fool; I passed on the cigar.
Anyway, when the term ended I went home for the holidays, planning to go to the Sugar Bowl to cover the game. My father -- who was born in Germany and who had seen his first in-person football game my senior year (I wrote a funny column about it) -- had seen Bo on television a few weeks earlier and had talked to me about how impressed he was, etc. So without the cigar, I brought home a Michigan football polo for my dad.
A few hours after I gave it to him, my dad was rushed to the hospital with another heart attack. His open heart surgery -- which had been planned for mid-January -- was moved up to New Year's Eve. I cancelled my trip to the game.
SO I arrive in the hospital on New Year's night, and my Dad is totally out of it. But to surprise me, he had my Mom bring him the polo shirt, which he is wearing while I watch the game. He wakes up at a point where Michigan was leading, asks for the score and says "Well I'm glad that Bo and the boys can do it without me" before dropping back off to sleep.
Now I feel really horrible about not getting that cigar from Bo.
So I get back to A2, I drop Bo a note and rehash this whole story. And I ask Bo if he would mind sending my Dad a cigar.
A week later, I'm in the athletic office to interview Don Canham for aMaize'nBlue magazine (a predecessor to The Wolverine, which I started editing as a senior) and Bo is walking out as I enter.
He stops me, grabs my hand and says "Jaffer, I just sent your old man one of my best five-dollar cigars."
He didn't say that he had sent a hand-written note, telling my father that if he ever came back to a Michigan game, my dad should look Bo up so they could smoke a cigar together (Bo sent my Dad a better cigar than he was handing out at the presser ... cellophane wrapped, and stamped with "Bo Schembechler, Michigan football" on the wrapper).
But here's where Bo was truly incredible. Several times in the years after I graduated, I had occasion to see Bo, usually at some event where he was speaking, once or twice when I was back on campus, etc.
He not only remembered who I was, he always asked about my Dad.
In fact, my wife (back when she was only my girlfriend) had written a story for the magazine on coaches wives, and Millie Schembechler was a wonderful woman ... and Bo had found out that wehad a cat that we had named Millie Schembechler, and he always asked about the cat too.
Last month, when Bo had the heart treatment, I sent a note to the football office. My Dad -- who also has had two quadruple bypasses and who is 82 -- had the same procedure four months ago (and thankfully is doing great); I reminded Bo of the 1984 cigar story -- because I still don't believe he remembers me -- and told him that my dad was doing great, that the recovery was easy and that both me and my dad hoped he'd be back on his feet in no time.
Last week, I got a note back, thanking me for the wishes, inviting me by for a cigar if my "old man" wasn't going to take him up on it, and telling me that not only did he remember me, but that he was proud of what I have accomplished since "leaving the program."
If I don't cry on that note and ruin it today, I think I'll take it and get it framed.
God bless you Bo. It sure was great having you on our side,
Chuck Jaffe
Senior Columnist, MarketWatch.com
Michigan Daily, 1984"
- November 17, 2006 6:43 PM
- Ali Haji-Sheikh said...
I have my own Bo stories that would exemplify the same characteristics as the story above but not as poignantly.
However, there is one thin I want to make clear (and I think Bo would have wanted to be made clear)...Many have suggested he will be watching the game from above tomorrow with Woody Hayes. They are wrong, he will be watching from above with Yost, Crisler, Canham and Ufer. GO BLUE!
- November 17, 2006 6:48 PM
- Wolf Blitzer said...
I just got home. What channel is the game on? I can't find it.
- November 17, 2006 7:07 PM
- TitleIX said...
Thanks for sharing your stories.
I was a freshman in '84 and remember your by-line.
- November 17, 2006 7:57 PM
"Men of Michigan on to victory,
Every man in every play,
Michigan EXPECTS her varsity to win today."
....from "Varsity" (Michigan's "other" fight song)
As Brian said first at mgoblog....
"Play. Fight. Win. Please."
- November 17, 2006 9:44 PM
Win this one for Bo. It would be a fitting tribute to the man who won so many national championships.
- November 18, 2006 1:46 AM
- Ali Haji-Sheikh said...
anon 10:46--In a line of posts dedicated to the memory of a man with integrity and class, your post personifies everything that Bo wasn't. Congratulations on being a first rate asshole.
- November 18, 2006 3:25 AM
The amazing thing is that the 10:44 dipshit took the time to post that on both of these threads... one of them devoted specifically to the man himself. Nice going.
- November 18, 2006 8:19 AM
Wolverine stuck with a bunch of Buckeyes here and you wouldn't believe the number of rude assholes I encountered last night. I've heard everything from " I want a shirt that says I killed Bo" to random yellings of fuck you directed at me while walking down the street. I'm sure it will only get worse as the day goes on
- November 18, 2006 8:53 AM
5 hours and then it's on like Donkey Kong, and this will be one of the greatest games we will witness in our lifetimes.
- November 18, 2006 10:43 AM
Looks like Michigan might receive the Corso kiss of death
- November 18, 2006 12:10 PM
House Divided -
That espn commercial is my house! My husband is an OSU fan- I hail from MI...GO BLUE!!! I've been surrounded by crazed OSU fans for 10 yrs now. It's not getting better. Be safe and stay away from the drunk ones.
- November 18, 2006 12:47 PM
Anyone who would like to have the game video for collection, let me know, i will capped the game and then make a high quality game video
- November 18, 2006 3:13 PM
this will be AMAZING...I'm in AA right now and people are going CRAZY...win or loose, I love this university so much....GO BLUE!!!!
- November 18, 2006 3:22 PM
passing going easy...
- November 18, 2006 3:56 PM
Oh, mama. This is exciting. 7 - 0 Blue!!!
- November 18, 2006 3:59 PM
great open field tackle...
- November 18, 2006 4:02 PM
Smith is 4.95 points below his average quarterback rating... low average yards and high percentage completion
- November 18, 2006 4:21 PM
- Andy said...
Halftime. 28-14 bucks.
Troy Smith looks like he invented the forward pass. Our DBs look bewildered.
I am very impressed. Pretty sure the bucks could beat both Ohio NFL teams combined.
I may need to drink another few beers to get thru this one.
- November 18, 2006 5:24 PM
- srudoff said...
Coach T is going to try to run the ball control offense in the third quarter as usual :( - I see it 28-21 going to the 4th.
- November 18, 2006 5:25 PM
michigan does not look like the team they've been all season. In fact, they look pretty pathetic....
- November 18, 2006 5:25 PM
- Katie said...
I want my Michigan Team back on the field the second half!!!
- November 18, 2006 5:34 PM
- Bo would be pulling his hair out said...
Why is Jim Hermann coaching the D in this game?
- November 18, 2006 6:09 PM
hurry up and finish the agony. this is terrible. Bo i am sorry about what is happening
- November 18, 2006 6:18 PM
Hey hey, ho ho, Lloyd Carr's gotta go... gutless playcalling today, I'm afraid.
Was a deep pass thrown at all in the 2nd half?
- November 18, 2006 7:05 PM
No amount of dead coaches can help you now.
Go Buckeyes!
- November 18, 2006 7:07 PM
Man that OSU offense is pretty amazing. Damn...
- November 18, 2006 7:07 PM
Damn, so this is Big Ten football, huh? No defense to bolster Heisman media darlings? Game of the Century? Hell, it wasn't the game of the afternoon. I'm really disappointed I didn't watch more of the Auburn game.
- November 18, 2006 7:29 PM
It's pretty clear that the teams themselves are pretty darned equal.
The coaching won and lost this game again. If Tressell is the Michigan coach, UM wins the game.
Those kids played their hearts out, but a faulty coaching scheme put them in too many bad situtations to win.
And yet they still almost won. Good for the kids.
Boo Lloyd and staff.
- November 18, 2006 7:29 PM
- Andy said...
Game over.
Ohio State is a great college football team. Congrats bucks. party on and be safe.
No rematch.
Let USC or Florida deal with them.
- November 18, 2006 7:30 PM
Did Lloyd tell Henne to overthrow all those passes and his receivers to drop them when he did hit the target? Nice try. Equal teams my ass, maybe on def, or lack therof.
And for all the tPSU fans aking snide comments about Bo- just proves you are classless lowers even when you win.
- November 18, 2006 7:31 PM
Yes, that's pretty classless of those few (let's hope it's the same prick) OSU fans.
Enjoyed the game, though I was looking forward to a defensive nail-biter in the low 20's.
- November 18, 2006 7:34 PM
Congrats to Buckeyes. They were clearly the better team today. Troy Smith is the Heisman winner.
Rose will be a great consolation for Michigan.
- November 18, 2006 7:35 PM
Great game that would have done Bo and Woody proud...
Michigan has an amazing team; Coach Carr and staff have done an amazing job. Hart and Henne both should be proud of their efforts.
Yost et al: If you're headed to the Rose Bowl, let me know... I want to buy you a round in Pasedena.
Go Bucks!!!
- November 18, 2006 7:35 PM
- God I hate Ohio said...
Fucking Ohio fuckers (I heard this cheer in a UM-OSU game in A2)
I will be happy to never face Troy Smith again.
As usual, the game comes down to a play here, a breakdown there. Dammit.
I am proud of my team. I will be happy to be in the Rose. No rematch - but only because we don't have an answer for TS. Still.
- November 18, 2006 7:39 PM
A few thoughts..
1). Go Buckeyes
2). RIP Bo
3). Congrats on a great season
4). Enjoy the Rose
5). Go Buckeyes
- November 18, 2006 7:39 PM
Just like agaisnt Miami a refs call gives OSU a victory. What was the defender (Crable) supposed to do after Smith scrambles around the field then throws a pass right at the sideline. Did ya ever hear of batting the ball down? Maybe if he wasn't throwing but he was in fact throwing right at the sideline. Geez
- November 18, 2006 7:40 PM
Quite simply, that was a f_____ war. Consider that UM put up 39 points, committed no turnovers--in Ohio Stadium--and barely fell to defeat. Worst game of Smith's career against UM (turnovers nearly ended his streak), but still better than about any other OSU QB in history. If Rutgers can get by West Virginia in Morgantown, send them to Glendale. Otherwise, UM deserves to go, unfortunately, 42-39 won't help their cause as much as 17-14. Great defense by UM in 3Q after tough first half, made Smith turn it over, just came up short. OSU D finally exposed, though ten of those points came following Smith mistakes in his own territory. I think Quinn can still win the Heisman, but he needs a 5 TD upset of USC, which would propel UM into the title game.
- November 18, 2006 7:45 PM
Troy Smith had one turnover that should have been against him. The interception was when the ball was tipped which he didn't have any control over. And that fumble was a bad snap by Doug Dadish, the other fumble was up for grabs it could have been Dadish's fault or Troy Smith
- November 18, 2006 7:51 PM
thanks lloyd, again you have been able to tear my heart out and stomp on it.
- November 18, 2006 7:55 PM
Anon 4:51,
Sorry, following from Romania via internet, only went by description given. #10 is my favorite all-time Buckeye, meant not to be disparaging.
- November 18, 2006 7:59 PM
multi million dollar athletic program...biggest game of the decade...and its played on a field the quality of a city high school field
- November 18, 2006 8:00 PM
well the crappy field had a crappy team to play on it. michigan you break my heart. Luckly for Bo , he didnt have to watch such piece of crappy coaching. LLOYD YOU SUCK!!!!
- November 18, 2006 8:11 PM
Congrats Buckeyes good luck in Arizona come to my state and spend your money.........
One ? though you would think a school that had Jack Nicklaus would have a fucking groundskeeper..........
Im happy the game lived up to the hype.............
Damn that overthrown pass to Super Mario in the first hurt........
That late hit killed me..........
And dont get me started on those two damn long runs and our soft playing corners...........
This one hurts..........
scott (GO BLUE!)
- November 18, 2006 8:11 PM
this game should be replayed on a neutral turf...and I emphasize turf...both teams deserve the shot at a national championship...
- November 18, 2006 8:18 PM
These guys played their hearts out-- bravo to the UM players for never giving up. It was a tough loss, but this was a good clean game and everything was left on the field. The rose is still a helluva consolation.
- November 18, 2006 8:23 PM
- srudoff said...
Unreal game and Carr was very gracious in defeat. Hart however didn't represent himself very well in the post game press conference
- November 18, 2006 8:27 PM
What did Hart say?
- November 18, 2006 8:39 PM
I guess this is where I post my anguish? After the attrosity that was last season I vowed to myself not to get too excited about this season until I had reason to be. I've been very humble in victory (seldom clapping at the tv and making random remarks outloud to myself), the Notre Dame game I did get a bit jacked up but got control after I heard Coach Carr say how will this team handle it's success. I had an incredible amount of sadness and tears shed over the last 24 hours of the passing of Bo. It made today's game very surreal, I asked myself if lessons could be learned from all that I learned from Bo in my lifetime. I reassured myself that as a Michigan fan I am blessed to call myself a Wolverine. Today I congratulate tOSU on being the better team. I still want to puke, get drunk and forget about this. I look at the Rose Bowl as a sloppy seconds kind of treat. Where have I failed as a Michigan fan that makes me feel that way about the Rose Bowl. It's been a very tough weekend to be a fan of Michigan, but I will still fly my Michigan flag, wear my gear and mourn the loss of Bo. The game is just a faction of being a Wolverine, I know the players, coaches, band and everyone who could did what they could to put Michigan in a position to win the game. On a weekend we will all surely remember, take solace fellow Wolverines, you are not alone in this time. Be proud, for Michigan truly is and always will be the Leaders and the Best.
- November 18, 2006 8:44 PM
- vendittelli said...
Anyone notice how Herbstriet was anti-rematch the entire season, and up until Michigan starting mounting a comeback? Then once Michigan showed they might be able to pull out the win, he casually mentioned how great the game was, and that he wouldn't necessarily be against it? He should not be allowed to be doing Buckeye games.
- November 18, 2006 8:47 PM
- LetsGoBlue said...
Bullshit, Herbstriet is a Big Ten fan and has done a great job in being impartial to the match up. After seeing the game he wanted, as I'm sure we all do, to see a rematch. It was an epic game and I wish the outcome could have been different but stand proud, Stand Blue!
- November 18, 2006 8:59 PM
- srudoff said...
Hart said OSU's D wasn't as good as everyone thought and that they were "nothing special". Michigan did better against our D then any other team but then again 10 of their points came on a very short field after two turnovers that Michigan didn't really force (yeah they "forced" them but basically they were two of the worst snaps I've ever seen). Henne and Carr were very respectful and gracious in their post game comments.
If OSU's D is "nothing special", what does that make Michigan's? Of course both D's are special but so are both offenses and today the O's won out.
As far as Herbstreit, MANY national sports reporters said no to a rematch until they witnessed this game - Flutie, May, Holtz, to name a few. If Herbie was a huge homer, he'd say hell no to a rematch.
- November 18, 2006 9:01 PM
so bo never won a national championship deal or alive. kind of sad he is pur best :( Go Blue! Hopefully somebody, anybody will go to the rose bowl.
- November 18, 2006 9:02 PM
- Andy said...
I watched the Hart comments on ESPNnews... and the most important thing he did say "they (osu) were better and beat us"
congrats on the win.
let's not start to try to create something that isn't there.
- November 18, 2006 9:27 PM
- bobmurph said...
A few thoughts...
1. If you told me we would score 39 pts and a +3 turnover margin I would have said no way we lose.
2. I hate the Safety blitz on 3rd & 16 in the 1st qtr. Barringer injured on that play...Bucks go on to score. Game changing play call.
3. Should not have taken entire half to go to Dime and Nickel packages against the 5 wide sets OSU was playing.
4. The turf is pathetic! Worse than Big House turf year before we went to Field Turf. BUY FIELD TURF OSU!
5. The 3rd &15 late hit was devastating. Feel bad for Crable. It was a legit call...but you can't expect Crable to be able to pull up and not lay a hit on Smith.
6. Questionable offensive play calling. Why pass on the 3rd & 1?????? Breaston running short of 1st down marker on 3rd down. Where was Manningham in between first and last drives of game????
7. Troy Smith will win the Heisman and deserves it 100% Not sad to see him move on to the NFL.
8. I think there will be a rematch in the BCS title game...don't know if I like that or not.
- November 18, 2006 9:35 PM
- srudoff said...
He did say that but also made a point to stress "today". They were better than us, today. Regardless, you don't say that your opponents D wasn't as good as everyone thought and then say that they are "nothing special", especially when his own D gave up 42 points and 500 plus yards. I realize he's disappointed that he's now 0-3 vs OSU, but so is Henne and he said all the right things in defeat.
Anyway, great game and, even though it was close, I still think there shouldn't be a rematch and would have said that even had we lost. The Game is the ultimate and playing back to back would trivialize today's epic game IMO.
I'm sure you'll kick our ass next November with Mario, Henne, Hart, et al back - they'll have some chip on their shoulder as well and the game will be in AA.
- November 18, 2006 9:41 PM
- Andy said...
I agree with two of your points...
1) Hart should not have said what he said after a loss. I give him a pass because he is a kid and he played a great game. Too bad his defense let him down all day long.
2) There should not be a rematch. We had our shot. Someone else can deal with you all in the NC game.
I do not agree that we will "kick you ass" next year. I am convinced we may not win another game until JT leaves.
How's that for elitist?
- November 18, 2006 9:56 PM
Boy Mike Hart is a class act. What a douche bag.
- November 18, 2006 9:57 PM
The only disappointment I have is the final score. Great game on both sides, clean and free of controversy.
Congrats, OSU, on a quality win. And, big respect for being classy about Bo. I can't wait until the next meeting.
And, once again, I unequivicolly state: I will have Mike Hart's baby.
- November 18, 2006 10:03 PM
Buckeyes win!
- November 18, 2006 10:26 PM
If you have Mike Hart's baby, chances are he'd say you were "nothing special" in bed!!!
- November 18, 2006 10:29 PM
- TitleIX said...
I'm just sick.....
I HATE that we are 5-6 against tOSU.
But, 3 of those wins are with Troy Smith at QB, and he is clearly the best college football player in the nation today. Heisman for sure.
Jim Tressel had a great game plan and why we are so freakin' stubborn about sticking to the plan vs. adjusting to what the other team does is just beyond me.
I too wonder about the defense on the field when they've got 5 wideouts.
For all those who said I didn't know shit about the field---sod off.
If you consider that home field is worth 3 points some might say this was a tie.
However, how can we not convert on 3rd and 1?????
How do we go 3 and out after a turnover??????
And where the f' was Mario?????
And Burgess for that matter?????
AND the Zebras blow.
Just makes me sick.
They beat us. Troy SMith is fantastic. period.
- November 18, 2006 10:34 PM
TitleIX - you still have The Royal Shakespeare Company to look forward too. Enjoy.
- November 18, 2006 10:38 PM
Yes I realize it is to not too.
- November 18, 2006 10:39 PM
- TitleIX said...
Sorry smartass, they've already left A2 as well.
This is why I hate losing to tOSU...because of brilliant pundits like yourself.
No matter how gracious any of us Michigan fans are in defeat, some tOSU lovers just can't match the sentiments.
Your football team was superb today.
You, anon, are a pain in my ass
- November 18, 2006 10:50 PM
- mjh21 said...
Michigan - particularly Henne and Hart - have a lot of heart (Hart's comments after the game makes it sound like he has a 10 cent head, though).
But. . . if we don't have a tipped ball for an interception, two completely unforced fumbles, and a phantom pass interference call on Michigan's last drive: we win by 14 to 17 points.
Rematch? If so, we will handle Michigan decisively - no way you guys go another Game without a turnover, and no way we turn the ball over three times in one half again.
I'm not just gloating, objectively it would be hard for you guys to play much better on offense than you did today, and the game is not even close without a 3-0 advantage in turnovers.
Troy Smith must give Michigan nightmares!
- November 18, 2006 10:51 PM
I am more sad for our guys than I am for myself. They gave their all and never gave up. I can't ask for more. GO BLUE!!!
- November 18, 2006 10:52 PM
- TitleIX said...
congrats to you sir.
- November 18, 2006 10:53 PM
- srudoff said...
don't go all Penn State and blame the refs! ;)
i thought they were pretty good overall. roughing the long snapper???? never seen that one before but, like crable's call, they'll call that every time to protect the players.
they missed a 15 yard facemask on one of ginn's punt returns and the 'faceguarding' call on o'neal was questionable because he wasn't actually 'face' guarding, he was trying to slap at mario's hands while the ball was in the air but kept missing them because of mario's separation. they'll always call that when the defender's not looking back at the ball though.
anyone that went to the game have any comments on their experience with Buckeye fans?
- November 18, 2006 10:53 PM
- srudoff said...
apparently we posted at the same time titleix. thanks for the congrats. my last comment was a dig on penn state fans, not you :)
- November 18, 2006 10:55 PM
ohio state 41 michigan 38
- November 18, 2006 11:00 PM
- TitleIX said...
right you are...many opportunities for success that did not involve zebras.
I spoke with a friend who was in row 3 near the endzone in the former bleacher end. I could hear the verbal abuse being hurled her way over the cell phone BEFORE the game.
Afterwards she said that it was pretty much the same but not horrible. she and her husband high-tailed it out after the game
- November 18, 2006 11:03 PM
- TitleIX said...
case and point, Anon ^^^^^^^^^^
your eloquence amazes
- November 18, 2006 11:04 PM
Anon 8:00- Super classy.
Leave it to a buckeye to ruin their win & further perpetuate their horrid reputation with the f-bombs.
Everyone is saying good win, good game, good qb in smith. Is that foul language necessary? Shows the intelligence level I guess.
- November 18, 2006 11:12 PM
- mjh21 said...
Annon at 8:00 does not represent OSU. Believe me, the people who care about the program and university - and repect Michigan and this rivalry - are as disgusted by that kind of thing as UM backers are.
I am suprised that I haven't heard any UM fans talk about the fact that even with three turnovers in the second half - which almost never happens with a Tressel team in a big game - UM still couldn't within striking distance. If there was ever a game for the taking - this was it. A rematch would not be nearly this close.
- November 18, 2006 11:27 PM
michigan played well, but lost to a better team. my respect to the michigan team, but all the arrogant and pretentious michigan fans make me sick. yeah, better look forward to that Royal Shakespeare Company, and we will take the win every time!
- November 18, 2006 11:36 PM
Anon 8:36-
You don't sound too respectful. Respect is not saying "my respect to the michigan team" and then name calling (pretentious). If you don't like what you read then get off the michigan football bog.
- November 18, 2006 11:41 PM
All your turf blamers... OSU played on the same turf too. In fact, Datish said the ball got stuck in a divet which caused a bad snap. I didn't see anyone get tripped-up by a divet... I'll watch a replay tomorrow and report back.
It was a battle for the ages. Best of luck in the Rose.
- November 18, 2006 11:45 PM
- bobmurph said...
This game was a perfect example of OSU's superior coaching staff. Questionable play calling on both sides of the ball for Michigan. Any drops? No bad penalties (can't blame Crable for the helmet to helmet).
The blame for this loss has to fall squarely on Carr.
- November 18, 2006 11:49 PM
Let's see... Carr and his staff lead this team to a
11-1 record & a bcs bowl. Just because he is not great against sweater vest & tennis shoes does not mean he should be fired. OSU was (& is) #1. No shame in losing by 3 pts. to the #1 team lead by the heisman winner to be at their home stadium.
You buckeye fans should want him to stay around with that 1 & 5 Tressel has on him just like UM liked Cooper & John L.
- November 18, 2006 11:56 PM
2 Anon 8:36 - you are a little whinie, just like your mike hart in the post-game conference. what a cry-baby! that was a true michigan class right there!!!
- November 18, 2006 11:58 PM
- November 19, 2006 12:05 AM
Wow.... Tressell is now 5 and 1 against Michigan!!! Since the Dead Schembechlers said they are changing their name, I think the "Used Carr's" would be perfect.
Good luck in the Rose Bowl !!
- November 19, 2006 12:09 AM
Carr has done a hell of a job with this team. He kept them together through a tough year last year and led them to an 11-1 record and hopefully a BCS bowl win this year.
Carr is not like Cooper. Michigan has not had teams ranked in the top 5 every year going into "The Game" only to lose to a team they should beat. In the six games Carr vs. Tressel each has had three teams as the favorite by my count. Carr has coached bad 2 times in this series and unfortinately for the UM tressel never has.
- November 19, 2006 12:18 AM
One great game. It's only once in a blue moon that a game matches the hype. Wish the field could have been up to par but OSU did try to provide one.
Hope you win your bowl game (unless we meet again).
(signed) AN OHIO STATE FAN (but not a fan of a lot of Ohio State fans)
- November 19, 2006 12:20 AM
I would like to say good game to the Michigan fans. It was a VERY hard fought game and wouldn't of had it any other way.
- November 19, 2006 12:24 AM
Thoughts on the game, from a Buckeye student:
#1 - The tribute to Bo was awesome. Every fan in the stadium was ABSOLUTELY silent. Really a touching moment.
#2 - Damn that was a good game.
#3 - Were there some douchebag OSU fans? Of course, but that's not unexpected. All the Michigan fans I talked to after the game were very complimentary. And I quote: "Our stay has been phenomenal. You guys have been great hosts." I was glad to hear it.
#4 - Thank you Corso. You never cease to amaze me.
Good luck in the Rose Bowl, like on any other night than 11/18, I'll be cheering on the Wolverines. Well, I guess if you're playing 1/8, then I won't then either. But good luck nonetheless.
- November 19, 2006 12:27 AM
Could someone give me a link for joining the Lloyd Carr fan club?
I'd like to get a lifetime membership.
- November 19, 2006 12:33 AM
I want to ask everyone a serious question I don't care if your a Michigan, OSU, or any other school's fan Do Michigan Fans in Ann Arbor treat the other teams fans as bad as OSU treats us? you wouldn't believe the things I saw today the shirts are one thing there funny but when people who are clearly not as intoxicated as they would lead you to believe are verbally attacking men and women 3 times their age thats not sports thats just plain disrespectful.
- November 19, 2006 1:11 AM
RIP Bo, hope you and Woody enjoyed the game. Great game but unfortunately someone had to lose. The kids played a great game and should not hang their heads. Lloyd is not JC, though he also isn't JT.
Good luck at the Rose and some of us Buckeye fans hope you win.
- November 19, 2006 1:16 AM
The majority of tOSU fans aren't that bad, or at least only treat UM fans with good natured ribbing. There are jerks in every crowd and unfortunately, they seem to come out of the woodwork at times like these. The F Michigan is somewhat humorous in a very juvenile way and probably used by folks who never attended tOSU or any other college. You don't normally hear that from true fans, just the assholes which follow every team. I've seen it from UM fans, PSU, etc.. Couch burning is rowdy students, while the car burning is the choice of the dregs that live just south of campus. Gives all of us a bad image.
- November 19, 2006 1:24 AM
To the true tOSU fans on here-congratulations. It was a great game. We already knew Troy Smith was going to win the Heisman; that first half just semented it. I am very much looking forward to seeing him leave Columbus! :) If our teams don't meet again come Jan. 8, good luck and please, for the love of God, beat U$C (eh, I have no beef with Florida or Arkansas). Please.
Getting the 3(?) turnovers and only getting 3 points out of it was disappointing, but I could not be any prouder of the game Henne and Hart played. Hopefully their play will continue on to the bowl game and next season.
With that said, I was a little disappointed in hearing what Hart said. Think it, tell your teammates, coaches, family, friends, girlfriend or whomever-but don't say it right after the game at the news conference. He's a kid that got caught up in the emotion of a loss. He'll learn.
Should there even be a rematch? Honestly, hell if I know. Part of me wants a rematch just because I want to beat tOSU. The other part wouldn't survive another round. My take is this-the two best teams should play for the MNC, and if the two best teams come from the same conference in a given year, then so be it. I don't buy that whole "Michigan had their shot" crap. If they're the second best team, then they're the second best team. Now, if you truly believe that USC, Florida, Arkansas, or even ND are the second best team in the country, then fine by me and let one of them play OSU. But that's a bunch of BS to say, "well, Michigan may be the second best team, but they had their shot so let's go to the next team on the list."
- November 19, 2006 1:31 AM
Check this out...
tonight's pick 4 in the ohio lottery...
4-2-3-9 now that's eerie
about the rematch - if UM played us again and beat us - what then? we'd be 1-1 against one another but you won the last of the two so UM gets the title?
UM only led for about 6 minutes. they only had one possession with a chance to take the lead and went 3 and out on that possession. 2 of their scoring drives were on super short fields after unforced turnovers. OSU had more than 100 yards more offense. the final score was close but honestly it wasn't as close of a game as the score.
- November 19, 2006 1:40 AM
Ohio Lottery pick 4 winning numbers......4239.
No Joke.
- November 19, 2006 1:43 AM
jim tressell eats babies and pretty much makes me throw up in my mouth.
in his spare time, he also touches me here on the doll.
- November 19, 2006 1:43 AM
Very excellent game. Congrats to both sides on a good season--Ohio State for actually keeping that #1 spot through some tough tests (2 games against the current #2), and Michigan for far exceeding most people's expectations.
As far as the championship game--if this season doesn't scream the need for a +1, then I don't know what does. Would anyone be against this: Ohio State plays the SEC champion (1-loss Florida or Arkansas) in a bowl. Michigan plays USC in the Rose. Winners play each other for the championship.
Anyway, great game.
- November 19, 2006 1:51 AM
As far as the championship game--if this season doesn't scream the need for a +1, then I don't know what does. Would anyone be against this: Ohio State plays the SEC champion (1-loss Florida or Arkansas) in a bowl. Michigan plays USC in the Rose. Winners play each other for the championship.
Agree with this statement 100%.
Anon 10:40-that's freaky.
And I don't know if you were just addressing the whole rematch conversation, or me, so let me just break my feelings on the whole mess down to the nitty gritty. I want the two best teams playing for the MNC. The two best. We know tOSU is the best, #1 team in the country. The question is #2. If at the end of the season USC has proven to be the second best team in the country, then I'm all for them playing you guys in AZ and our boys going to Pasadena. But right now, I simply don't think they're the second best team. Arkansas is the best in the SEC, but really, how much weight does that carry now? Florida just beat up on a 1-AA team, and as bad as FSU has been this year, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they struggled against them. And ND? I have one thing to say about them: 42-21.
Like it's been said before, still a lot of games yet to be played, and hopefully it will all work out in the end. But come Jan. 8 when I turn my tv on to *shudder* FOX */shudder*, I want to see OSU about to play the next best team in the nation. End of story.
Plus, like I said, I don't know if I could take another round of UM-OSU.
One more thing-I am thoroughly impressed with Troy Smith. I really wanted to find something in his press conference after the game and in the interview with the Gameday guys to hate, but I couldn't.
It's been a hell of a long night.
- November 19, 2006 2:24 AM
- Trevor Pitt said...
Great game Michigan lovers (I mean that in the consensual sense).
Even though the outcome wasn't what he'd like, I'm sure Coach Bo is cracking open a tall one in the "Big House" in the sky. RIP Bo.
What a game! Looking forward to next year's match. Good luck in the Rose Bowl, go Big Ten!
Now let's get back to common ground and root against Notre Dame for the rest of the season.
- November 19, 2006 2:30 AM
UM is the #2 team (or, if you're generous 1-A) in the country. Simply and succinctly, no one has a better loss, nor is anyone else responsible for the only Ls in two gaudy opponent resumes (for now perhaps). USC would have a nice resume, but the L to the Beavers looks bad, turnovers aside. ND has NO argument, at all. The most interesting candidate is ARK, yes, dominated at home by USC, but in the first game, and with a still-recovering McFadden. If they beat both LSU and FLA, that's quite a winning streak and an undefeated conference record. Their computer rating is dismal, helping UM which may stay #2 in the BCS tomorrow. I think ND can beat the Trojans, the question is does the SEC champion, if both have just one loss, leapfrog UM? Should the Razorbacks win their next two by double digits, they may have a shot. I say no, Michigan, absent two more double digit victories by USC, deserves not a rematch, but a chance at the national title as the #2 team. No matter what, OSU has to play a one-loss team in Glendale, may as well be the best of them. Wouldn't the SEC howl if Wisconsin got a third BCS selection to play a Texas, etc :)
WVA blew it, LOU blew it, TEX blew it... Gotta be Michigan, see you in Glendale.
- November 19, 2006 4:07 AM
I have felt this way for a long time and will continue to feel this way. As long as Lloyd is charge, Michigan will never get BCS Championship or finish any season as #1. NEVER!
- November 19, 2006 4:12 AM
I probably wouldnt feel this way if Michigan had won. But they didnt. Lloyd just cant pull it off. Sure he made changes after last years fiasco. But those changes were not enough to beat Ohio St. I personally am not ok with being the #2 team in the nation. I want to be #1. And just say michigan does get a rematch and win, it would end up as another split championship. 1-5!! That is terrible! that is unexceptable! Thanks Lloyd. Thanks for nothing.
- November 19, 2006 4:22 AM
The dead Schembechlers our now The F@*K YOU LLOYD'S
- November 19, 2006 4:24 AM
- MGoBlue93 said...
can't blame Crable for the helmet to helmet. The blame for this loss has to fall squarely on Carr.
bobmurph 8:49
Are you serious?
I'm reminded of a line from the movie Billy Madison:
"what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
I know it has become fashionable for to put the coach down when things don't go the fans' way but nobody is responsible for Crable hit but Crable himself! Is Carr wearing a freaking helmet? Did Carr instruct Crable to get penalized? Get a clue man.
And as far as going deep on 3 and 1... yeah it failed for Carr that makes Carr stupid. But Tressel calls the exact same play and he's brilliant... that logic is ridiculous.
Maybe you need to check out about what Bo said about all of Carr's critics.
Yeah, tOSU coming out with that 5 WR set caught U of M totally off guard. If you want to blame the coaches for that... go ahead, it's more reasonable of an argument. I'd wager though tOSU was probably working on that since August and the first time anyone saw it was Saturday.
Carr did an incredible job this year. He cleaned house in the spring. When the nation was comparing the demise of U of M and Miami(Fla), Michigan went about their jobs and earned a Rose Bowl birth.
- November 19, 2006 4:58 AM
This year the rose bowl is for second best. I suppose i should be used to second best. Ive had to settle for 35 years of second best with this team
- November 19, 2006 5:26 AM
@anon 1:12
Yeah, never! Lloyd Carr NEVER wins a championship. Wait, what? He already won one? That can't be true! He can NEVER win a championship.
There is more to a coach than winning championships. Why didn't Bo get fired?
I feel for Lloyd. I know he doesn't want to use Bo's passing as a motivational tool or an excuse, but deep down it's gotta affect him.
The team played a great game. The defense were disappointing in the first half, and I'm sure English was the most disappointed person in the world at halftime. But, to his (and Lloyd's and the team's) credit, they fought back in the second half. We would not be in the position to win the game had Crable not made that mistake if the defense didn't play well enough to start the second half.
The offense was impressive, but I keep on wondering how different the game would have been if Manningham caught that bomb.
- November 19, 2006 8:00 AM
[sorry for double-posting]
There is more to a coach than winning championships. Why didn't Bo get fired?
And why did someone else get fired eventhough he had a chestful of NCs?
I'm proud of Lloyd just as I'm proud of Bo. (Well, maybe not that much, but it's close.)
- November 19, 2006 8:17 AM
Lets face it. Coaching matters big time in this series. Anyone who watched the Cooper era knows this. Carr is not a bad coach but year after year he is outcoached by Jim Tressel. Michigan controlled both offensive and defensive lines, had a plus 3 in turnover margin and probably have more future NFL players on both sides of the ball. Tressel not only changes from year to year but adapts from game to game. Few coaches at any level are better.
- November 19, 2006 8:45 AM
Actually Ohio State's Offensive Line controlled Michigan's D-Line pretty well, perfect example was the Pittman Touchdown Run which was blocked to perfection. Also Troy smith got a lot time in the pocket, sure he was hit a couple times, but he had enough time to throw to his play makers and allowed them to score/ make big plays. Ohio State's Defensive Line also had a pretty good game, not amazing or anything but enough to make big plays when they needed to.
- November 19, 2006 8:57 AM
- mjh21 said...
Very disheartened that so many UM's fans' first instinct after losing the game for all the marbles is to begin lobbying for a do-over on a neutral site.
As to the game itself, ask yourself a couple of questions:
1. Could Michigan's offense play any better than it did? No turnovers, 140+ and three touchdowns on the ground. Henne looked as good as he has ever, and my God your O-line got away with so much holding in pass protection.
You gave us your absolute best shot and it simply wasn't enough.
2. Is there any way we would ever turn the ball over three times in one half again? Two completely unforced errors with the fumbles and a tipped ball for an interception and UM turned that into exactly 3 points. If they hadn't won the turnover battle 3 to 0 we cruise by 14 to 17.
3. Can UM ever hope to get such a lopsided percentage of the close calls to go their way again? From Malcom Jenkins interception reversal, to the non-review of their tight end's almost identically trapped catch, to the non-existent pass interference call on O'Neal on their last scoring drive - an awful lot of things came together for UM to even stay in this game.
Please stop the immediate politicing and sit there and suffer like the loser of this game does every year. The "We should get another chance" rhetoric sounds like the most sour of grapes and belittles the stakes that were on the table before the ball was kicked off.
Do you guys deserve to play for the national title if there is another one-loss team? NO. Would you get drug by us in Glendale. You betcha'.
- November 19, 2006 9:43 AM
It's pathetic to remind anyone claiming Meatchicken was set back by the field conditions that Ohio State played on the same field, but apparently it needs to be done.
On behalf of all Ohio State fans, I apologize for not knowing Meatchicken needed such pristine conditions to put on an adequate performance.
What will be next year's excuse? Meatchicken ran out of Massengil in the locker room?
- November 19, 2006 9:48 AM
mjh21 - You're complaining about calls being bad in favor of Michigan? Are you kidding me?
I'm not going to sit here and nit pick and say we got screwed by the refs because we should have played better and overcome that. But to say the refs favored Michigan is just ludicrous
- November 19, 2006 10:09 AM
- mjh21 said...
I didn't say that the refs favored Michigan - I said that a disporportionate amount of the close calls went their way. I only mean that it would be unlikely that the close calls would break their way again.
That was also only one of several points I made about why the game wasn't as close as the final score suggested and why - implicitly - if the tables were reversed I absolutely WOULD NOT be clamoring for a rematch. You had your chance to win THE GAME, the Big Ten, and a trip to the NC Game. You lost. My message to the UM fans arguing for a do-over is simply this: Sit there and suffer for a year like I would be doing had we lost. That's what this rivalry is about.
- November 19, 2006 10:31 AM
- bobmurph said...
I know it has become fashionable for to put the coach down when things don't go the fans' way but nobody is responsible for Crable hit but Crable himself! Is Carr wearing a freaking helmet? Did Carr instruct Crable to get penalized? Get a clue man.
You're equating my statement that the Crable hit was a result of Carr's coaching (in this game)...which was not my point at all.
About Crable...helmet to helmet hits are going to happen. If it was a bad penalty (unsportsmanlike/late hit) I would "blame" Crable, but in this case I "blame" the rule.
About Carr...I'm not trying to take anything away from the season he and his staff have put together. I never thought preseason that Michigan would be 11-1 this year and go to the Rose Bowl. Overall, I am VERY pleased with the team and Lloyd's performance this year. However, there was A LOT of questionable play callling in the game yesterday. The one play that keeps going through my head is the Gonzalez touchdown where he was covered by LB Chris Graham. That play was on the 3rd (?) OSU offensive drive of the game. Why hadn't Carr/English made the adjustment to put more DB's in when OSU had only run the ball 3 or 4 times TOTAL at that point in the game??
I've never been a Lloyd basher or called for his head. Lloyd is a great coach, but Tressell is a better coach. And that has become increasingly frustruating over the past 6 years.
- November 19, 2006 10:33 AM
It's still great to be a Michigan Wolverine!
- November 19, 2006 11:12 AM
You can't spell LLLLloyd without 5 Ls!!!!
Why no post-game blogging by the M-Zone? Come on, share your thoughts! Certainly you have something to say about Crable's helmet blow in the 4th, or that the field wasn't good enough, or that you SOMEHOW deserve a rematch in Glendale.. but knowing you guys, you'll probably just comment on how CLASSLESS we are in Columbus, and how scared you guys were walking around in your Michigan garb before and after the game. Good luck in the Rose Bowl, Wolverines!!!
42-39. In Tressel We Trust
- November 19, 2006 11:41 AM
Can someone explain the use of Meatchicken instead of Michigan? I just never got it and it doesn't seem to make sense like TSUN or scUM.
- November 19, 2006 11:58 AM
Going into yesterday's game I was sick to my stomach with nerves. I went to Ohio State during the Cooper years and know first hand the frustrations of sitting on the losing side of the game. But since we have won the last two, it just seemed like it was Michigan's TURN to win. And Michigan certainly gave us a scare. They played one hell of a game and I am so glad they were able to pull it off.
Yes, Jim Tressel is an awesome coach. It was proven again yesterday. But to call for LC's job after an 11-1 season with a beginning rank so low down, is a great coach! Cooper was a good coach....until it came to Michigan. If he loses his job over THIS game, something's wrong in Michigan. They had one hell of a season, and are still going to a big bowl.
As for Ohio State fans...claims of being scared to wear your Michigan gear is crap. People all over the place had on their Michigan garb and aside from ribbing...(which is to be expected!)....the claims of viscousness is uncalled for. Ohio State just has the most passionate fans anywhere. Now if you are afraid to wear your Michigan gear TODAY, I understand. (ha ha)
- November 19, 2006 11:58 AM
But to call for LC's job after an 11-1 season with a beginning rank so low down, is a great coach!
That was supposed to say "But to call for LC's job after an 11-1 season with a beginning rank so low down, is crazy. If anything, it proves he is a great coach!
- November 19, 2006 12:01 PM
I have a compromise. Ohio St. will welcome a rematchin Glendale, if Michigan agrees to use John Cooper as their coach.
- November 19, 2006 12:34 PM
Week 13 USAToday poll shows #2 USC, #3 Michigan and #4 Florida. USC is 20 points ahead of Michigan and Michigan is 20 points ahead of Florida, Interesting how all this could play out
- November 19, 2006 1:12 PM
Hey 42-39,
In case you didn't notice (reading comprehension presumably not being your strong suit), the M-Zone boys WENT TO THE GAME. Kind of hard to blog when you're not actually, you know, at a computer. They'll have something up soon enough.
- November 19, 2006 2:05 PM
- TitleIX said...
Mr. 42-39 brilliant poster guy:
At current count there are 135 posts regarding yesterday's game, under the thread that clearly states that Benny and Yost are in C-bus and won't have much internet access....ERGO...no new posts from them (yet).
The rest of us true fans of the game have left respectful and reasonable comments about Troy Smith, a very good game plan, and a sound defeat. And NO rematch.
Interesting that you are looking for whining on this site from M fans about a myriad of things that overall had no effect on the game.
To quote my buddy Wm. S.---
"The Lady doth protest to much"
If Michigan HAD won, would we need cheese to go along with YOUR whining????
I mean, honestly, it's posts like yours (along with other select tOSU 'fans') that give the rest of the Maize and Blue Faithful fuel for our ire.
Take your win and relish it.
But sheez, stop with the little-brother-esque poking, prodding, whining, gloating, and taunting. It really is small.
- November 19, 2006 2:09 PM
A great place to find out everything you ever wanted to know about DETROIT AND MICHIGAN
- November 19, 2006 2:09 PM
- TitleIX said...
ahh shit...
"TOO much"
- November 19, 2006 2:12 PM
Michigan fans offer their congratulations, and OSU fans (some of them) act like jackasses.
For those saying "if there was a rematch do you think OSU would have 3 turnovers in one quarter again" let me ask you this-do you think our defense would give up 500 yards again? It would be a different game, for the better and the worst for both teams. It doesn't just go one way.
And noone is arguing for a rematch. We're discussing the possiblity of one from both sides of the arugment. Soooo sorry if we offend you mjh by talking about how good USC, Florida, and Arkansas are compared to us. I think a lot of us UM fans don't want a rematch, but right now the situation is very much a possibility.
I just want the two best teams playing in the game, period. USC could easily prove they're the second best team the next two weeks and I would be fine with them in the game. And if that's the case, like I said before, I hope OSU goes out there and crushes them. If I can't have a UM MNC, then seeing USC lose twice back-to-back in the MNC game would be the next best thing.
- November 19, 2006 2:12 PM
Well, seeing Florida crushes the Buckeye in Glendale would make me smile (as long as we crush the Trojans in the Granddaddy). I know it's farfetched given how good the Buckeyes are.
Again, Michigan can probably give the Buckeyes the best game, but NO REMATCH if at least one of USC, Arkansas or Florida wins out.
- November 19, 2006 2:19 PM
mjh21 - You're complaining about calls being bad in favor of Michigan? Are you kidding me?
I'm not going to sit here and nit pick and say we got screwed by the refs because we should have played better and overcome that. But to say the refs favored Michigan is just ludicrous
Well, Michigan had 3 drives kept alive by penalties, one of which (the first pass interference call) was absolutely ridiculous and another (the "you can't touch the long snapper" thing) is something I've never heard of before. (No complaint on the last pass interference call.) And then there was the overturn of the Jenkins interception, which people who saw the game on TV told me was less "indisputable" than the officials insisted it was. There was a blatant face mask against Ginn that was missed, and arguably another helmet-to-helmet on Smith in the first half.
The gameday atmosphere was a lot of fun, but I'm getting too old to do this very much longer. Especially since heartbreaks in this series tend to run in cycles (Michigan in the '70s, us in the '90s, and now you guys again), and inevitably this current cycle is going to end.
But at least U-M cares about the game again. The "Michigan State is really our big game" stuff that we started to hear at the height of the John Cooper era is a thing of the past, apparently.
- November 19, 2006 3:14 PM
JS 5:00 am if you consider a split championship ok. Thats on you. Its been 58 years since michigan has had a outright champion. 58 years!! lets stop settling for second best.
- November 19, 2006 3:22 PM
Michigan is #2 in the AP and #3 in the Coaches' poll. More importantly, it's still #2 in the BCS. . . .
- November 19, 2006 3:33 PM
christ, lloyd has already proven he is no match for osu and tressell. please NO REMATCH!!!!
- November 19, 2006 3:48 PM
I'm not in favor of a rematch; however, I do want the two best teams in the country competing for the national championship game. Wasn't that the reason for having the BCS? If the 2nd best team is UM, then so be it.
If losing late in the season is reason for not going to the championship game, does college football "win" when the UM-OSU game will be moved to Labor Day (so the losing team can try to move back up in the polls like ND)?
A rematch game won't be the same. It can't be. Both teams will have seen the best the other has to offer (and adjust). But it would be a true championship game of the two best teams, by far, in the country.
The other solution would be to just eliminate the BCS and go back to the old system where we just drink plenty of beer and argue about how our team really should have been the "mythical national champion". Oh how awful that would be; how last century.
God, I miss the old days!
- November 19, 2006 3:53 PM
Kudos to the Wolverines for a great game. Your boys came out and gave us everything we could handle. A worthy opponent indeed.
We are very sorry for the loss of Bo, all of COLLEGE FOOTBALL lost a great ambassador, and a great man. I'll bet he and The Old Man had a hell of a conversation yesterday afternoon.
The best of luck in your bowl game, unless you know what happens!
Go Bucks
-West Norwich
- November 19, 2006 4:03 PM
@anon 12:22
Er, yeah. Apparently I consider that a championship. Ask Woodson, Griese, Tuman, Streets, and the best defense Michigan has ever had if you don't believe me. Is it Lloyd's fault that Nebraska got the other half of the championship? Maybe he should've instructed Tai Streets to kick one pass to Jerame Tuman? Maybe he should've announced that he's retiring to garner some sympathy votes? Come on.
But that's not even the point.
If championship is all you want, then I guess you don't mind having a coach who has a bad reputation, does not care about his players, and cheats as long as he wins. I think Carr is doing this the right way and I don't want my Michigan team built any other way.
- November 19, 2006 4:19 PM
Leave Lloyd alone. he did just have a mentor & friend pass away.
Yes, Tressel is an awesome coach & probably did outcoach UM. But, they call the plays & the PLAYERS execute them. So, are the coaches the ONLY ones who deserve the praise and/or criticisms? Not in my book.
- November 19, 2006 4:46 PM
Lot's of Lloyd haters, but Lloyd not once told his team to over-throw passes, drop easily catchable passes, or lay the wood with series extending helmet to helmet hits out of bounds. In all honesty I wanted Michigan to win- for the love & tradition of football if nothing else, but I just had the feeling starting half-way through the 2nd quarter that Ohio State was pretty much in complete control of the game. I know there were times when I got excited Blue would overcome, but I'm not convinced it was as close as people think. Somebody did though, I see BCS rankings have you at 2 still. Congrats! Lots of generosity for the ND and Wisconsin wins, although I think all teams in the SEC except Bama, any school in Miss, Vandy, or UK would also have only one loss max with either WI or ND's schedules.
- November 19, 2006 5:50 PM
"you can't touch the long snapper" thing is something I've never heard of before
I haven't heard of that before either ekj! Can anyone explain the rule and the reasoning for it? I think Davie said it was to protect the long snapper, but I wasn't really listening to him (it's very easy for me to just tuneout him and Musberger(sp?) now). When was the rule added?
js-that would be nice as well! I have nothing against Florida and out of the three teams in the state, I like them the most. But their offense against remotely good teams is bad and getting worst with every opponet. Maybe WCU helped them improve on that side of the ball, but I very much doubt it. Right now I would take Arkansas over Florida in the SEC Championship.
- November 19, 2006 5:53 PM
Nice Try Bo, but it didn't work, and you're still dead! ha
- November 19, 2006 6:49 PM
My guess is that Anon 3:49 not only didn't go to OSU, but didn't even graduate high school. Probably issued a GED by the State of Ohio in hopes he would get his trash ass off food stamps and get a job changing oil at Quickie Lube. Too bad he spends his minimum wage working on his dirtbike, drinking Beast, and beating his live-in girlfriend.
- November 19, 2006 7:36 PM
Stop piling on Michigan has made this rivarly as much a we have, as much as I HATE THEM, we need to respect them (and they us), they're not that different than we are.
Go Bucks! and as much as I hate to say it...Go Blue...you've earned it!
-West Norwich
- November 19, 2006 7:53 PM
I just have a couple questions that i hope someone can answer for me about the game yesterday... Why did Lloyd Carr throw 35 times and so much early when Mike Hart was getting 7 yards per carry?
Also... I know you were down, but the best way to keep the OSU offense off the field is to pound the football and take time off the clock and i know he was trying to confuse them and that's fine to do on the first drive, after that, do what got you there...
Also... where were kevin grady and brandon minor? You can't win with one horse and those guys have been important in taking the load off mike hart and confusing defenses all season. Michigan's offense did play great, but the run defense was disappointing.
Answers to those questions would be greatly appreciated and GO BLUE!!!
- November 19, 2006 9:19 PM
"Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser."
That is just one of many quotes that made Bo so great. You were great Bo and are missed dearly.
You had the best seat in the house on saturday and you forever will as long as Michigan plays football.
Rest in Peace. You were the best!
- November 19, 2006 9:24 PM
Anony and to the rest pondering the whole 'hitting the snapper' thing. There are two rules on this, in high school, at least in Ohio, you can't make contact with the long snapper until he is 5 yards downfield. In NCAA rules, you cannot make contact with him until he raises his head. I didn't see the play as I was at the game, so I can't give any bearing on whether or not that was a good or bad call. Something like that is so rarely called though, that I would err on the side of the refs. It was probably pretty blatant, especially the way both teams were going at it.
- November 19, 2006 9:53 PM
To you know this said: I went back a looked at the play and it was a good call.
Go Bucks
- November 19, 2006 10:58 PM
Thanks for the explaination you know this.
- November 20, 2006 12:55 PM
Todd, your answers:
Michigan early was attempting to use the same gameplan that worked against PSU, a similar tough road environment. PSU loaded up to stop the run, which OSU also tried to do early, and thus you throw early to get the safeties to back off and create running room later. Notice Hart had IIRC about 57 yards at halftime and the majority of his 142 after the half. OSU was forced to respect our deep passing and give Hart room.
Grady is hurt (shoulder), Minor is still a frosh and I doubt the coaches trust him to pass protect & pick up blitzes, so if you put him in OSU knows it's a run coming. Hart keeps the D off balance. Plus I don't think the coaches trust Minor yet not to fumble in a game we couldn't afford to. For the same reason even if Grady was healthy I doubt we would have seen him.
- November 20, 2006 2:18 PM


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Thursday, December 07, 2006
Look out Corso and Herbstreit
(HT to JW who sent this our way...we think)
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LOL! lets hope they are from the UP
- December 06, 2006 1:05 AM
- Beban said...
Guys in that video who actually played competitive football in high school=Zero.
But hey, nice lawnmower.
- December 06, 2006 1:06 AM
It was I who sent this in.
Your welcome (I think...)
- December 06, 2006 1:55 AM
- Zach Landres-Schnur said...
so you think that charlie weis is a bitch?
- December 06, 2006 2:15 AM
When LSU fans see this, someone will try to duplicate it by building a basement. Unfortunately they will hit water when the shovel strikes dirt and sink their entire house. I'm pretty sure that the royal thrashings that UM and USC this year & OSU in the Fiesta Bowl, will pale in comparison to the carnage that LSU will administer.
I'm sure these guys in the video are getting their t-shirts ready for the Rose Bowl. It's good to see OSU doesn't hold a patent on obnoxious fans.
Beat SC
- December 06, 2006 8:00 AM
I would have paid any price of admission to see the reaction these former high school band members had when the final BCS ratings were announced on Sunday. Now that would have been fun to see!
- December 06, 2006 8:43 AM
Another interesting perspective would have been the 4th quarter of the Ball St. game.
I come away proud of my own lawnmower. It cranks the first time, every time.
- December 06, 2006 8:50 AM
It would've been fun to watch these ex-bandmembers back on Nov.18
Michigan gets "Auburned"
Michigan to Crown USC in the Rose Bowl.
- December 06, 2006 9:43 AM
wonder if the screams of 'overrated' will get any louder when those same michigan fans suddenly have to cheer for quinn when he gets drafted by the lions?
- December 06, 2006 10:00 AM
Does anyone know of a store or website that sells the "Rudy Sucks" t-shirts?
- December 06, 2006 10:13 AM
I may have to wake up each morning for now on and watch this video. "That's what i'm talking about baby, overrated." // p.s. anyway lloyd can throw Western Carolina into the mix next season? I'm convinced had this season's schedule included perennial power Western Carolina, the Harris poll would not have wound itself into a clusterfuck and killed my dreams.
- December 06, 2006 10:14 AM
Yeah, but that is a nice man-room... bar, pool table, couch in front of large tv.
- December 06, 2006 10:59 AM
- crock said...
good gracious - thank God they were at home carrying on and not embarrassing all Michigan Fans at a BW3's or something.
It does seem like an awful lot of trouble to get so excited about the game, make up such an original shirt (Rudy came out 13 years ago), and then watch the game in someone's basement???
- December 06, 2006 11:02 AM
So...the correlation between alcohol and brain cells is true after all. Wow.
- December 06, 2006 11:22 AM
- Andy said...
Nothing says ELITIST like screaming at a big screen and a lawn mower that starts on every pull.
- December 06, 2006 11:51 AM
Is his lawnmower out of gas? It only takes me one pull to start my mower.
What a pussy.
- December 06, 2006 12:59 PM
Over-fucking-rated, bitches.
I like how at around the 1:44 mark, the guy flips off Quinn like he can see him.
- December 06, 2006 1:51 PM
It is imperative to get a video of these guys during the Ohio State game. Get-er-done!
- December 06, 2006 2:18 PM
The "Rudy Sucks" t-shirts (among others) can be purchased in the few days before every home football game on State Street. There's a dude that camps out in front of the Union selling them.
I've also seen them for sale on gamedays on Hoover by Revelli Hall.
- December 06, 2006 2:40 PM
is this an admission that not all jackasses are buckeyes?? Sweet Jesus I never thought I'd see the day this blog admits that yes, all fans have equally ignorant jackasses.
Rudy Swallows!
Yost was right, you wolverines are classy!
- December 06, 2006 2:43 PM
Loud, offensive, intimidating, emotional, energetic... Not one set of car keys jangled in the whole clip.
This crew is clearly not a bunch of Michigan season ticket holders.
- December 06, 2006 2:56 PM
- TitleIX said...
j wyrick!???
is that the turkey-hunting j wyrick?????
it's a pretty lame man-room
blue leather couch inches from the movie screen
small sized pool table
cheezy round Hooters high table (without the view)
NO way these guys have a Michigan degree
No way
- December 06, 2006 3:01 PM
- Andy said...
Regarding the state street t-shirt sellers. My favorite from this year...
"Our Brady doesn't suck"
- December 06, 2006 3:38 PM
If only the fans at the games could show that much emotion, I was waiting for the two of them to pull out their keys and jingle them in order to intimidate Quinn.
- December 06, 2006 5:23 PM
Nobody cares more about good fan behavior than Yost.
You should write a book, market it to Big10 fans, and then enjoy your "please and thank-you" filled Saturday afternoons for the rest of your life.
- December 06, 2006 6:17 PM
- Ungar Kelt said...
Sad...very Columbus-like.
Wish they took the camera upstairs to the den to see if a U of M diploma was on the wall - my guess - negative. A singing bass on the wall - affirmative.
- December 06, 2006 6:17 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
These clowns are really from Toledo...
Lets just hope none of them have reproduced... I have visions of that little kid in a tOSU jumper telling everyone who is #1... only that jumper isn't scarlet and grey, it's Maize and Blue.
- December 06, 2006 7:31 PM
- MGoBlue93 said...
You know, in this forum, we cannot bash herbie ever again... the guy really stuck up for Michigan in that clusterfuck of a BCS vote. Herbie actually said that it made no sense to keep Michigan at #2 for several weeks and then change the vote at the 11th hour.
- December 06, 2006 7:34 PM
- War Eagle In Fla said...
i love it!
- December 06, 2006 10:45 PM
Was this video footage shot as part of, say, an undercover homeland security operation or did these guys really think it would be a good idea to film themselves watching a football game?
- December 06, 2006 11:22 PM
Obviously that was a ploy by buckstaches to impersonate UM fans. People from Michigan don't use the word fuck every other word, do they? If this is true then everything I have learned in life is a lie and I am moving to Bolivia!!!
- December 07, 2006 10:02 AM
- Howard21 said...
He's doing the lawn mower all wrong. MORE HIPS, MORE HIPS!!!!!!!
- December 07, 2006 5:52 PM
wats the url
- December 07, 2006 10:46 PM
- Can't spell Lloyd without 2 "L's" said...
Who put the motherfuckin' video camera in my motherfuckin' basement? Was it you, Chuck? You motherfucker!!!!
- December 08, 2006 12:49 PM
- Kirbdaddy said...
Best line in this video was "Fuck You, Chump Mother Fucker!!!" That shit is PRICELESS!!!
- December 12, 2006 12:00 AM
Show of hands,
Now that you've watched that clip, who all will 'accidentally' break out into the landmower when the Bucks score their first points on Florida or Michigan on Southern Cal?
Thank goodness, I just don't see myself getting excited enough during our shellacking of Houston to break out the lawn mower.
- December 13, 2006 9:36 AM
Ok, I give up. What's with UM fans and the lawnmower thing? Some sort of tribal ritual?
- December 13, 2006 3:56 PM

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The project allows trains to better utilize the existing double track in both directions on the Yolo Causeway between the Sacramento and Davis stations. Since this is one of the busier freight corridors in Union Pacific's network, this benefits passenger trains by enabling Capitol Corridor trains to pass freight trains, giving an additional boost to Capitol Corridor's reliability, which has one of the best on-time performance ratings in the Amtrak system.
The $5-million project received financing from the Federal Railroad Administration (FRA) from an obligation of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) High Speed Intercity Passenger Rail Program (HSIPR) funds to improve passenger rail reliability along the Yolo Causeway.
Prior to this crossover, trains had to travel 13.4 miles between Davis and Sacramento, the two busiest stations on the Capitol Corridor route, without the ability to switch tracks or pass freight trains between these stations. Installation of the Yolo Causeway crossover cuts that distance in half and allows for trains to move and pass, regardless of the train traffic direction, thereby optimizing the flow of train traffic.


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Journal sm62704's Journal: Attention Freaks and Fans 3
I've managed to get the password to my old "mcgrew" account, so I won't be using this one any more. Its first journal will reference and link this account.
If you are on my "fans" list, I'll be adding you to the "friends" list of the mcgrew account. Please be patient; I'm doing it alphabetically, and by hand, and slashdot only lets me do so many at a time. If you are onn my "freaks" list you'll just have to add "mcgrew" to your "foes" list; I am not going to have "foes" in that account, either.
The mcgrew journals will be more rationally listed under the old mcgrew account. The first one is Under the rainbow.
So, I made a move on Charlie, and, well, let's just say that I'm not very good at seduction. By "not very good" I mean I suck at it badly. I doubt I've ever seduced a woman in my life; every one I had, they had their eye on me first. Maybe that's the way it works, I don't know.
She was gentle in her rejection.
Well almost; there is Eye muss bee knew hear pretty much saying what I'm saying here (-1, redundant). As that account started out with neutral karma, having not been used since January 2000, and this account has excellent karma, nobody can accuse me of being a karma whore! I've never worried about karma before and I don't intend to start now.
I'll see you at the new; er, I mean "old" account!
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SPARK PE offers evidence-based physical activity programs that provide curriculum and staff development to teachers of Pre-K through 12th grade students.
This school- and community-based fitness program teaches kids to live an active and healthy lifestyle by running or walking 26.2 miles over six months, eating healthy food daily, and even learning to grow fruits and veggies. Available in select cities.
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These resources help teachers get their students active, excited, and engaged in the NFL PLAY 60 Challenge. The resources include a teacher guide, lesson plan worksheets, game planner, classroom scoreboard, and certificate.
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These programs aim to assist parents in helping children manage their weight and live healthy lifestyles with specific activities and milestones.
Healthier Generation
This curriculum for an after-school health promotion program is designed to teach young people ages 11 to 13 about the complex media world around them and how it can affect their health—especially in the areas of nutrition and physical activity.
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If there is one word the picture seems to be aggressively striving to evoke, it would be "relaxed." McCain's studied repose is in direct contrast to the image she projects in campaign photographs in which she is pressed, polished and so stiffly poised that she often looks like a wax replica of a political spouse. There's nothing especially natural or nonchalant about her Vogue portrait. One can almost see the fingerprints of the assistant who adjusted her hands just so and one wonders how long she had to hold her head at what looks to be an uncomfortable angle. But the implied message is unmistakable: I am not a Stepford wife.It's just more Stepfordish — isn't it? — to annihilate traces of Stepfordishness.
By contrast:
[Michelle] Obama's photos seemed crafted specifically to help the viewer imagine her in the role of first lady. She is a study in little black dresses, conservative pearls, preppy hair and restraint. Again, the implied message is unmistakable: I am neither subversive nor threatening. I am not some scary "other." I am Camelot with a tan.Camelot with a tan.
Meanwhile, neither Bill nor Hillary Clinton has submitted to the transformative powers of Vogue. Would it help, and would it help more for Bill or for Hillary to do the posing? Hillary's hair, makeup, and fashion are fiercely controlled by someone (presumably, some team of experts), so it's no surprise she did not allow it. And tousling Bill up is too apt to be taken the wrong way. It's best that the Clintons remain unVogued — though, with hindsight, everything they did seems ill-fated. If only Hilary's hair had blown free while she lounged on a rock by the ocean. If only she'd — just once! — worn a dress — a diaphanous gown...


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This is the first time in more than 60 years that Atlanta has had streetcar tracks.
"Today's construction activity signifies an important step forward for the Atlanta Streetcar project and underscores the city's commitment to build a new, world-class transit system that will benefit residents, businesses and visitors for years to come," said Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed. "There is real momentum gaining for this project and once completed, the Atlanta Streetcar will be transformational for the downtown corridor."
The Atlanta Streetcar project is a cooperative effort by the city of Atlanta, the Atlanta Downtown Improvement District and the Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority (MARTA). The 2.7-mile line will run through the heart of Atlanta's business, tourism and convention corridor, bringing jobs and new economic development to the city. It is expected to serve as a catalyst for millions of dollars in new residential, office and retail development.
Each section of rail is approximately 80 feet in length and weighs 3,040 pounds. Construction contractors forecast completing one block of track installation every three to four weeks.
The streetcar line will include 12 stops and will reconnect the two halves of downtown that were disconnected by freeway construction. The line will connect with MARTA's rail and bus systems and will have eventual connectivity to the Atlanta BeltLine
Construction of the alignment is underway and service for the Atlanta Streetcar is scheduled to begin in the spring of 2014.


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Downton Abbey's Dan Stevens Comments on the Future of his Character
[Warning: Spoilers ahead!]
In the exclusive interview below, Dan Stevens, 30, who hails from London and plays Matthew Crawley, heir to Downton Abbey, talks about his role on the show (season three premieres Jan. 6 on PBS Masterpiece Classic). Although it has now been revealed that Stevens will be leaving the series after this season, the actor didn't want to spoil anything for U.S. viewers and sidestepped the question of his character's future happiness.
What makes Matthew and Mary a good love match?
Since the beginning, they've seemed like opposites; they've clashed and caused sparks. But opposites attract, and sparks make fire.
Can they have a happy ending?
One of the constant dramatic pressures on the characters is that personal happiness is often sacrificed for the sake of the house. Everyone is striving to see the estate continue; they see its survival as the key to happiness.
What's it like knowing that royals like Prince William and Duchess Kate are tuning in?
What's wonderful is that the show seems to appeal to a huge range of people.
You're currently starring on Broadway as well, in The Heiress. What do you enjoy about doing period dramas?
Aside from the fun costumes and beautiful settings, it's a chance to explore where we've come from and how much or how little we've changed.
Would you like to comment on reports that you'll be leaving the series in the fourth season?
I could tell you, but then I'd have to have Mrs. Patmore cook you. …
Downton Abbey: Michelle Dockery on Matthew and Mary's Relationship
Shirley MacLaine on Joining Downton Abbey: 'The English Love My Bawdiness'
Downton Abbey Cocreator Julian Fellowes Explains How the Characters Came to Life
Photos: Get a Special Sneak Preview of Downton Abbey Season Three
Julian Fellowes's quotes adapted from The Chronicles of Downton Abbey by Jessica Fellowes & Matthew Sturgis; foreword by Jullian Fellowes. Reprinted by permission of St. Martin's Press, LLC. Buy the book here.


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The San Diego Association of Governments (SANDAG) will install equipment on the Washington and Tecolote crossovers in San Diego. SANDAG will also install a crossover in the Sorrento Valley area. NCTD will take advantage of the rail closure to complete other rail maintenance work in the cities of Oceanside, Carlsbad, Encinitas, Del Mar and San Diego.
The line will re-open for regularly scheduled service April 22.


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HyperGraphDB is a general purpose, extensible, portable, distributed, embeddable data storage mechanism. Designed specifically for artificial intelligence and semantic web projects, it can also be used as an embedded object-oriented database for projects of all sizes. It is a Java-based product built on top of the Berkeley DB storage library. It can be used as a single in-process database bound to a location on the local disk or within a "cloud" of networked database instances communicating and sharing data in a P2P (peer-to-peer) fashion. Key features include storage of generalized hypergraphs, an open, extensible type system, basic query system and graph traversal algorithms, out-of-the-box support for Java object storage, thread-safe transactions, and a P2P framework for data distribution.
OrientDB is a NoSQL DBMS which can store 150,000 documents per second on common hardware. Even with a document-based database, the relationships are managed as in graph databases, with direct connections among records. You can traverse entire or parts of trees and graphs of records in a few milliseconds. It supports schema-less, schema-full, and schema-mixed modes, has a strong security profiling system based on users and roles, and supports SQL between the query languages. Thanks to the SQL layer, it's straightforward to use for people skilled in the relational world.
Neo4j is a graph database, a fully transactional database that stores data structured as graphs. A graph is a flexible data structure that allows for a more agile and rapid style of development. You can think of Neo4j as a high-performance graph engine with all the features of a mature and robust database. The programmer works with an object-oriented, flexible network structure rather than with strict and static tables, yet enjoys all the benefits of a fully transactional, enterprise-strength database. The community edition is GPLv3 licensed, while the advanced and enterprise editions are AGPLv3 licensed.
Bitsy is a small, fast, embeddable, durable in-memory graph database that implements the Blueprints API. It is an ACID database that recovers cleanly from power failures and crashes. Designed for multi-threaded OLTP applications, Bitsy implements optimistic concurrency control and stores data in human-readable JSON-encoded text files. Common management tasks such as online backups can be done over JMX. The speed and simplicity of Bitsy relies on three design principles: No Seek, No Socket, NoSQL.
The Assimilation Monitoring Project is a highly scalable discovery-driven monitoring system. It integrates continuous discovery of servers, services, service dependencies, switch connections, and lots of other things into the monitoring process. The discovery is "stealthy" and will never set off any network security alarms. Adding servers doesn't measurably increase monitoring load, and the system is expected to easily scale into the 100K server range. The discovery work is distributed among all the nanoprobes (agents), which run scripts that spit out JSON. The central system (CMA) stores these strings and runs optional plugins to create graph nodes.
Pixy is a declarative graph query language that works on any Blueprints-compatible graph database. The Blueprints API provides a common interface to over a dozen graph databases, including Neo4J, Titan, Infinite Graph, OrientDB, DEX, and Bitsy. Pixy enables complex pattern matching and logic programming on graph databases by translating PROLOG-style rules and goals to Gremlin pipelines that represent graph traversal operations. Queries in Pixy can also be seemlessly integrated into Gremlin expressions. The combination of Pixy and Gremlin gives the programmer the full power of two graph querying paradigms, viz. graph pattern matching and graph traversal.
WhiteDB is a fast, lightweight graph/N-tuples shared memory database library with a focus on speed, portability, and ease of use. There is no server process. Data is read and written directly from/to shared memory. No sockets are used between WhiteDB and the application program. It supports indexes (T-tree), persistence through logging and memory dumps, concurrency through locking, limited queries (conjunctive only), JSON, CSV and RDF support, Python bindings, command line utility tools, and JSON REST tools.
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Not sure how many UFC fans we have out there but there's some really hot fighters these days. I'll try to post some pics.
Roger Huerta
Not sure how many UFC fans we have out there but there's some really hot fighters these days. I'll try to post some pics.
Roger Huerta
I watch it sometimes, but it's not because I like the sport, I just like seeing all the hot guys wrestle.
My heart will always belong to Forrest Griffin:
Homegirl in the back knows whats up.
lol, just kidding...sorta. damn though, Forrest Griffin drives me fucking crazy!!! nice pics btw.
Roger Huerta's my number 2. he was looking better than ever in his most recent fight. like RIDICULOUSLY hot... to the point where it almost hurts to see someone trying to pound his face in.
Rich Franklin holds a special place in my heart. he is the reason i became a UFC fan, after all.
Yeah, I love UFC guys. I have tons of pics over at my blog:
My favourite is Chris Wilson:
I love him!
watching the Mir/Noguera season of The Ultimate Fighter right now. quite a few guys from caught my eye, but i fucking LOVED Tom Lawlor!!! Ryan Bader was pretty hot...and a BEAST in the octagon. wasn't feeling him at all the 1st time around, but i'm noticing that Kyle Kingsbury is cute as hell...but it was kinda odd how okay he was with the "piss in the fruit platter" incident. the "splushi" incident was kinda hot though...
Chuck Liddell!!!!!
also theres Shad Smith who is a openly gay MMA fighter
Yeah about time someone made a thread for UFC guys.
This one fighter is hot as hell....I forgot his name he's supposed to be fighting Randy Coture at UFC 103. But he's hot as fuck.
i forgot to add Andrei Arlofski-i know i butchered his name
Rich Fanklin is the one who got me so into UFC hotties, he is gorgeous. Gutted because since it got snaffled off Bravo I don't see it at all now!!
Chuck, Couture, Forrest, Huerta are gorgeous. Let's not forget big boy GSP either!!!
Oh and Matt Hughes.
Here's lovely Richwho always wears great underwear for weigh is - check out youtube for more
George St Pierre who looks hung to me - if that is important to any of you.
And Phil Baroni
St. Pierre's mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i've been appreciating Rashad Evans alot more lately...wish i had pics to do justice to his ASS!!!
i think Ryan Bader has the best body in the UFC
but Vinny Magalhaes definitely gives him a run for his money with those abs
josh Koscheck!!!
Randy Couture and Ken Shamrock!!!
I watch quite a bit of WEC on Versus. There are some hot guys there too.
Urijah Faber, Joseph Benavidez, Dominick Curz, Danny Castillo, Kenji Osawa just to name a few.
I think Urijah Faber, Joseph Benavidez, and Danny Castillo train together in Sacramento.
I also love to hear what each fighter says about what they are going to do to the other fighter before the fight starts. Sometimes I say to myself "yeah right".
Anyway, good eye candy.
George St Pierre
Huerta posted a bulgey pic on guyswithiphones site. Hot.
[QUOTE=willsboy84;5425188]i've been appreciating Rashad Evans alot more lately...wish i had pics to do justice to his ASS!!!
Rashaad Evans...sorry about hte last post, lets hope this actually shows up
I watch reruns everynight on Spike, new season starts the 31st I was told. I wrestled in high school. It's hard, no pun intended, not to get a boner sometimes, I tried but not always successfully. Some of their positions are truly like gay sex, the fact that they are barefoot and in a cage just adds to the hotness.
I'll always fancy Patrick Côté
UFC men are HOT HOT HOT.
For all sad words of tongue and pen,
The saddest are these, 'It might have been.'
Did anyone watch UFC 111 tonight? Both hotties, GSP & Hard, headlined.
Dan Hardy is so friggin' hot!!
I really love UFC guys. Michael Bisping is nice
Got ahold of a razor in this one:
I'd love to be the one in charge of weigh ins:
The problem with UCF boys are they have absolutely slammin' bodies! But their faces tend to get too mangled. Like, a lot of them start out really hot but before long their jaws are all crooked and they got boxer nose, their cheeks are rearranged... But great bodies man.
Some more weigh ins:
The always adorable Matt Hughes:
Rich Franklin:
AWESOME FUCKING PICS!!! Have any weigh-in pics for Forrest(FUCK, I love that guy!!!), Tom Lawlor, Patrick Cote(what's up with him lately) or that goddamned Roger Huerta--I'm still all about Forrest, but I think Roger's probably the best looking guy in UFC.
Some definite hotties on the current season of TUF. I'm checkin' for Rich, Clayton & Brad. There's a couple other guys who caught my eye--just can't remember their names. Actually Chuck & Tito are looking pretty choice too
Still kinda sore that he took my baby's belt, but I've really been feelin' Rashad lately. Lol, during his and Rampage's season of TUF, I kept imagining them working their anger towards each other out on me!!!
Hate Matt Hughes & Michael Bisping, but they're both hot as hell...until they open their mouths, of course.
It's odd, because he's really kinda gross, but I have to admit to having certain fantasies about Jesse Taylor.
Which reminds me of how hot Keith Jardine gets me--despite the fact that some of the grimacing he does, makes me think of The Predator.
Frank Mir's kinda hot, but his massive forehead is kinda freaky. He looks GREAT in a baseball cap though.
I agree about the current season of TUF. Hope to cap some good pics of them soon.
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Here are some of Patrick Cote. He's one of those guys who looks just as hot with clothes as without:
Here are some of Roger Huerta:
Here are some cuties from the weigh ins for UFC 112
Matt Hughes:
John Gunderson:
Nick Osipczak
Rick Story:
Matt Veach:
Paul Kelly:
Damn....you guys are KILLING me with the pics!!!
Think I have to rethink my opinion about Roger being the best looking in the UFC...those Patrick pics are NIIIIIIICE!!!
And if I wasn't already hot over Jardine, I definitely would be after those pics. Goddamn...
Charlie Brenneman has that doofy straight guy look, but it's what I find cute about him:
Mike Nickels is another guy that I wouldn't think would be my type but there is just something about him....
Here are some more of Ryan Bader:
Bader with Chuck Liddell..wouldn't mind being between the two of them:
Here are some more of Ryan..as you might be able to tell, I really really like him:
As a smurf...but look at that body:
In his briefs..wish he was coming to bed with me:
I go back & forth on Bader's face, but I DO think he just might have the hottest body in UFC
Just give me these 3 and i'll be good to go.


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Atmail is a fully-featured email server and Webmail client, allowing users to send and receive email via a Web browser or mobile device. It has full support for IMAP mailboxes, and an optional email-server mode that uses EXIM as the MTA. Features include a scheduler, MySQL backend support, spell-check, address book, calendar user preferences, multiple accounts, SpamAssassin support, migration scripts from other mail servers, a customizable interface, an attractive AJAX interface, an optional group sharing Calendar/Addressbook, and an Outlook plugin to sync Contacts/Tasks/Calendar data between a Desktop, Mobile, and Webmail client or other email users.
Drupal is a modular content management system, forum, blogging and community engine. It is database driven and can be used with MySQL, MariaDB, PostgreSQL, and SQLite. Its features include (but are not limited to) discussion forums, Web-based administration, theme support, a submission queue, content rating, content versioning, taxonomy support, user management with a fine-grained permission system based on user roles (groups), error logging, support for content syndication, locale support, and much more. It is considered to be an excellent platform for developers due to its clean code and extensibility, and it can also be used as a Web application framework.
phpPgAdmin is a fully functional PHP-based administration package for PostgreSQL. It has all the basic functionality you need to completely administer a PosgreSQL server and/or database, including the ability to administer views, sequences, stored procedures, and triggers. Features include the ability to create and drop databases; create, copy, drop, and alter tables/views/sequences/functions/triggers; edit and add fields (to the extent Postgres allows); execute any SQL-statement, even batch-queries; manage keys on fields; create and read dumps of database and tables; and administer one single database, multiple servers, and Postgres users/groups.
ezContents is a Web site content management system in the form of a Drupal distribution. The default theme is fully responsive. Its features include maintaining menus, adding authors that write contents, permissions, workflow, and layout possibilities for the entire look of the site by simple use of settings. A @font-your-face module with Google Web Fonts is added by default. It offers great flexibility for the Web site developer and a user-friendly interface for the editor. You can extend it yourself using existing Drupal modules or themes.
Cerb is a fast and flexible Web-based platform for business collaboration and automation. It helps you remember anything about anyone, collaborate from anywhere, deftly reply to a flood of email, automate, stay informed, capture feedback, track time, flag opportunities, manage tasks, share expert knowledge, and otherwise execute efficiently.
Tiki Wiki CMS Groupware is a full-featured, Web-based, multilingual, tightly integrated, all-in-one wiki, CMS, and groupware. Tiki can be used to create all kinds of Web applications, sites, portals, knowledge bases, intranets, and extranets. Tiki offers a very large number of features "out-of-the-box". It is highly configurable and modular. All features are optional and administered via a Web-based interface. Major features include a robust wiki engine, news articles, discussion forums, newsletters, blogs, file and image galleries, bug and issue trackers, a link directory, polls/surveys and quizzes, FAQs, a banner management system, calendar, maps, mobile access, RSS feeds, a category system, tags, an advanced themeing engine (Smarty), spreadsheet, live support, shoutbox, inter-user messaging, menu generator, advanced permission system for users and groups, internal search engine, external authentication support, and more. It was formerly named TikiWiki.
phlyMail is a groupware, webmailer, and PIM. It offers unlimited nested groups, unlimited POP3/IMAP profiles, quotas, an integrated address book, a calendar with multiple reminders and event repetitions, a file manager with an integrated WebDAV server, the ability to send faxes, SMS support (which lets you send SMS, get reminded of events via SMS, and get email notification via SMS), a bookmark manager, themes, and multilingual support. It uses either sendmail or SMTP to send email, and can handle MIME and SSL connections. Support for IDN (Internationalized Domain Names) is included. Through its modular design, it's easy to add completely new features as modules, which can be plugged into the system.
phpGrid provides professional-looking Ajax-enabled grid-based editing, create, read, update, and delete (CRUD) operations for Web developers in as little as two lines of code. It features cross-browser inline editing, support for all HTML form controls, integrated search toolbar, a master detail data grid, image display, MS Excel and HTML data export, permission control, a theme roller, built-in record sorting by any column, support for major databases including MySQL, SQL Server, and Oracle, support for large database record sets, and WYSIWYG and Ajax file upload.
A rule language.
A Java bytecode viewer and class modification library.


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The latimes.com has some year-end reporting from the NPD Group with sales figures for the game industry in North America in 2012. Word is sales of physical discs and consoles declined 22%, compared with a 9% drop the previous year, as the transition to digital distribution accelerates and the current console generation hits the geriatric stage. Here's more:
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