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At the same time, Ms. McFarland is facing a new potential setback: Her résumé and recent newspaper articles suggest that she holds a doctorate from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, yet she does not.
And opponents of Ms. McFarland called on her to fire her senior adviser, Edward J. Rollins, after he said that it had not been difficult for Vietnam War soldiers to earn the Bronze Star. Ms. McFarland's opponent for the nomination, John Spencer, received a Bronze Star during his Vietnam service.
Ms. McFarland, a political novice and former spokeswoman at the Reagan Pentagon, has been mostly buffeted by revelations this week that she had accused her father of abusing her as a child, and that as an adult she abandoned her gay brother as he was dying from an AIDS-related illness.
Ms. McFarland said in an interview on Tuesday that she loved her brother but could not abide his sexually promiscuous lifestyle, which she blamed on the abuse that she said they had both endured.Continue reading the main story
She also said in the interview that she had "no intention of not staying in the race," and then asked a reporter for advice about what she should do about her candidacy.
Mr. Rollins reiterated yesterday that Ms. McFarland would not drop out. He also apologized for his Bronze Star remark but said he would not quit, despite demands yesterday from Mr. Spencer's spokesman, Robert Ryan, and the Conservative Party chairman, Michael Long.
Mr. Rollins said he was not sure if the recent troubles would affect fund-raising, but acknowledged that the campaign was nearly broke and that a personal loan was likely. He said there would not be enough money for television advertising before the Sept. 12 primary, and only enough for a week or two of advertising this fall.
"We're running on empty," Mr. Rollins said. "It's a hard landscape. The big fund-raisers of the past — Pataki, D'Amato — aren't involved in this race. We may have $100,000, we may have $200,000, but we won't have millions. It's trench warfare."
The Spencer campaign will end the period with about $200,000 on hand, according to John McLaughlin, a senior adviser. He said the campaign had raised nearly $3 million, but had plowed most of that money back into fund-raising in hopes of yielding even larger donations this summer and fall.
Senator Clinton had nearly $20 million on hand this spring. Yesterday, Howard Wolfson, a campaign spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, would say only that she would have "considerably more" money than the two Republicans.
The new revelation about Ms. McFarland's résumé, meanwhile, involves its description of her education history, which begins, "M.I.T.: Ph.D. (all but final completion of dissertation) in Political Science."
A June 23 profile of Ms. McFarland, by Cindy Adams in The New York Post, said that the candidate earned a master's at M.I.T. A Buffalo News article in March stated that she held a "degree" from the university. Her campaign Web site said that she "put herself through" M.I.T. with her own money, but it does not mention a degree.
According to the registrar's office at M.I.T., no degrees were conferred on Ms. McFarland during her time there.
McFarland advisers said they had not corrected the errors in the Post and Buffalo News articles because they had not noticed the mistakes. Ms. McFarland, in an interview, said she had not read the Adams column because she had been away in England.
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A new aircraft can be seen in the skies above Naval Air Station (NAS) Jacksonville.
A British Royal Navy HMA2 Wildcat helicopter was flown in in the cargo bay of a Royal Air Force C-17 Globemaster to NAS Jacksonville May 1.
The Wildcat was partially disassembled for the flight from England.
The helicopter and its crew will be operating out of NAS Jacksonville for two weeks training for Exercise Iron Eagle, a drug interdiction operation.
"Our mission for the next two weeks is to do pre-deployment training for airborne use of force counter-narcotics in the Caribbean with the U.S. Coast Guard," said Lt. Mark Green, of the Royal Navy.
"We are working with the U.S. military to stop drugs coming from South America into North America."
The Wildcat is the Royal Navy's maritime attack helicopter.
"The primary role of the helicopter is an attack helicopter where we find and destroy surface ships with two different types of missile systems," Green said. "For this particular mission set, we find non-compliant vessels, disable those boats and capture the drugs on those boats and hand them over to the U.S."
This is an annual visit for the Royal Navy.
"We try to come to NAS Jacksonville every year and train with the Helicopter Interdiction Tactical Squadron of the U.S. Coast Guard based at Cecil Field," Green said.
The Royal Navy has 34 crewmembers to support the mission.
After training for two weeks at NAS Jacksonville, the Wildcat and its flight personnel will go to NAS Key West to continue the anti-drug operations in the Caribbean.
While operating at NAS Jacksonville, the Royal Navy will have full access to base facilities.
"While they are staying on base, we are giving them anything they need," said Doug Chaney, airfield facilities manager for NAS Jacksonville.
That hospitality is certainly appreciated by the British.
"The personnel on NAS Jax and the command have been absolutely fantastic," Green said. "The facilities here are second to none. Without the ability to stay here at NAS Jax, we wouldn't be able to complete this mission."
After approximately four weeks of counter-narcotic operations with the U.S. Coast Guard, the Wildcat and its crew will embark to the Royal Navy ship RFA Mounts Bay (L3008) for a six-month deployment.


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I know I've already done decorating your house for Christmas but, I wanted to do a post about making your home festive, since although decorating your house with a tree and lights etc. is part of creating a festive atmosphere in your home, it's not all there is to it!
We've always had mistletoe in the house at Christmas. My Dad's boss grows it in his back garden and every year he brings a big bag full into work for everybody to take home. You have to be very careful with it since it's very toxic but, you can easily find somewhere to hang it, ready for the Christmas kisses!
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Playing Christmas music in the house is sure to put everybody in the Christmas mood and it makes the whole house feel festive. Check out my list of top 10 Christmas songs. We tend to use the Echo Dot with Alexa to just play a selection of Christmas songs, or we'll put Spotify on through the Bluetooth sound system. Since we have quite an open plan house, it's lovely and festive when you have everybody in the kitchen/living area with Christmas music in the background.
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Bowl of Nuts
I'll admit we haven't gotten ours out yet this year as we've not had many people over for Christmas drinks yet but, we will soon have a big bowl of mixed nuts out on the side in the living area, with a huge nutcracker on top. To be fair, you could have this out all year round but, there's something Christmas-sy about it!
Mulled wine can be made from scratch of course but, we prefer to buy it bottled in the local supermarket and just warm it up on the stove. Apart from creating a lovely fruity, Christmas-sy smell in the kitchen, it goes down a treat when you've come in from being outside/at work all day. It also reminds me of Christmas markets since whenever I go to one I end up having either a hot chocolate or a mulled wine to warm up.


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Shen Yanxiao slightly raised her eyebrow.
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No matter what you say, I have already decided to beat you up today.
The match had not yet begun, but Geng Di already wanted to abstain. He had decided that he would give up immediately as soon as the start of the match sounded. He would never give Shen Yanxiao a chance to hit him. In any case, he had stood in the ring, which should be enough to keep some face for himself and for the Magical Fantasy City. No matter what, he was not Shen Yanxiao's opponent. He just wanted to end this torture early.
Geng Di was very resolute with his thought. On the other side, Shen Yanxiao was smiling very wickedly.
The gong of the first match finally sounded.
Geng Di took a deep breath and immediately opened his mouth to admit defeat.
But who would have thought that Shen Yanxiao would actually be faster than his movements.
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"Geng Di, we still have a long time, don't be so anxious to go." Shen Yanxiao stood behind Geng Di and whispered the words that made him absolutely terrified.
Geng Di covered his neck; it felt as if a flint stone had been shoved into his throat, it was burning in pain.
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DILG Assistant Secretary Jonathan Malaya said Friday he is using the unutilized national budget returned to the Department of Budget and Management (DBM) as basis.
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READ: Economic managers' doubts prompt Duterte to consider public feedback on proposed federal charter
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Hotel recommendations for Miami Beach.
It would help if you told us how long you expect to be in south Florida and what sort of accommodations you are looking for.
Most of the action on south beach is on the beach from 5th ST north to about 17th street.
Hotels range from not cheep and a bit tacky to very over priced. Car parking near the beach on weekends is difficult.
If you are here for more than a couple of days you may like to check out Haulover beach. With more time you could visit Hollywood and Fort Lauderdale to the north or Key West to the south. Car needed for longer trips.
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I never stayed at any waterside hotels before, but next time I go I'm considering the Doubletree Surfcomber (owned by Intercontinental/Holiday Inn chain). I didn't enjoy my experiences in the mom-and-pop places west of Collins Ave.
I will recommend a couple of casual places to eat and drink. 1) Mango's Tropical Cafe, at the corner of 10th and Ocean Drive, give or take a block north or south. I'll describe it as a Caribbean/Hispanic-themed, co-ed Hooters with much better food. Virtually impossible to miss. 2) Wet Willies, a couple of blocks south of Mango's, is good place to get wasted after a day at the beach (if you enjoy such inebriation) as many of their frozen drinks are made with grain alcohol. If you're looking for 5-star restaurants I'll let others address that subject.
Agreed with JM_Runs on the beach scene, by the way. As a thonging couple you should be just fine there.
Enjoy yourselves!
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Here is the report for Friday Sept 9 and Saturday Sept 20 !
My wife and I stayed at the South Seas Hotel, a king-bed room with a view of the beach. Clean, quiet, safe, great location, friendly, $99. Yes, we will stay there next time. Just go somewhere else for breakfast and good coffee. Delano seems to try too hard to be cool, not worth even the same price because you'd have to put up with the attitude and beaucoup dork shorts.
On the beach, we rented lounges and an unbrella in the yellow-umbrella section in front of the hotel. Very comfortable, good location, lots of thongs, many topless women. At one time. we were surtrounded by thong-clad women. As usual, I was the only thong-clad man but no one seemed to mind. Even the 20 somethings strolling by in dork shorts did not seem to care.
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We've stayed at the Shelborne a few times. The pool can be used topless, though it's somewhat rare. We've worn thongs there, often the only ones in thongs. They also have a nude sun deck in the back by the pool. It's the only one I know of on South Beach at a hotel, aside from some private terraces you get with an expensive suite at some hotels. It's screened off from the rest of the pool. Last winter when we were there I noticed many of the hotels were half empty including the Shelborne, it was the world and latin american economy I thought. That just meant I had the hot tub spa or the pool to ourselves. On several nights I even went thongless in the spa. A couple of years ago with warm enough water in the pool at night I skinny dipped for a while. Later I saw someone else from the balcony doing so alone also .
Some of the hotels are like DisneyWorld, with pools filled with little kids.
I think the Raleigh pool is topless too, never been in there during the day, but it's beautiful. The Delano beach section has it's share of topless women and guys and girls in thongs and g strings, so I suppose the pool is game too, but it's super expensive.
The restaurants we like best are all on Lincoln Road. There are several good ones including Yuca.
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My wife and I stayed at the "South Seas" for a week back in June and I can't really say that I was too impressed with the hotel. The place seemed run-down to me. There wasn't hardly anyone at the pool or bar and the place left us with a bad impression overall. We're looking for another place to try next June/July/August 2004 for vacation. Thanks.
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My first post - thanks to the moderator for the group.
Just returned from my 3rd South Beach trip in this year (in March, April & now November). For the first time, I took a hotel at 6th St, rather than 12th, and was pleased both by the hotel (Park Central) and the beach at 7th. There was lots more variety in the people, and it seemed to me a larger percentage of topless. Not that I stay put at any particular spot - I like to spend mornings here, afternoons there, and if there's enough warmth after about 4pm, another spot then. This means that I tend to be a pretty visible thonger, not just hiding out on a lounge chair at the back, where I notice some thongers tend to stay put all day. I don't shy away from going to the snack stand, or the trash can, or into the water, and don't really feel like I'm the object of extraordinary attention.
I go to South Beach very specifically because I can wear a thong. (Tell the Merchants Association!). I do wish there were more of us, but at this point I feel no doubts or qualms about wearing it there. I do have some questions/concerns about where the limits are, as I do wear a quite small/low thong, but I think that belongs under another topic.
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Hi All
I will be going to South Beach at the end of March. I am there on business and plan to take a couple of days to tan. I am interested in a hotel recommendaiton in the $125 to $175 range.
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Date Posted:02/18/2004 02:16:39Copy HTML
Hey riothong,
The Cardozo Hotel is great, sometimes you can get a deal there, otherwise I like the Winterhaven - small rooms, but clean and convenient.
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If you want to stay somewhere very nice in SB, try the Art Deko section of SB, the same area that they shot lots of Miami Vice scenes. We stayed in the Waldorf Towers. Decent place for the money, VERY very old hotel, lots of hystory to it, but completely refurbished.
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When we stay in South Beach I want to stay at a hotel where we can swim in the pool in thongs if the wind is too strong, or we want to swim at night. Some of the hotels use their pool areas as night clubs. The Delano has a nice pool, and thongs and beautiful bodies during the day, but at night you can't swim with a large crowd around. Also you'll want a pool where the ladies can go topless. Most pools of the oceanfront hotels allow this. Some of the pools at hotels not on the water won't.
Even though Haulover Beach isn't far away, I still like to have a place to sunbathe nude if we feel like it for a few hours. The Shelborne had a nude deck but the pool, but it was taken out, and on the most recent trip I tried out their new nude deck on the 17th floor outside the health club. Unfortunately now you have to pay $10 to use it. (make sure they sweep it , the birds roost out there). The deck has a great view. You feel like you're on top of the world out there nude in the hot sun with the wind blowing! For you self conscious, you can't be seen from the other buildings out there. The Sagamore has a nude deck too, overlooking the pool on the beach side. Theirs is not in the sun much of the afternoon, but at the Shelborne, since it's on the West side, it's sun all afternoon, but you can see the beach and city. (it's right next to the big "S" on the sign)
Also I look for a hotel where they have a nice spa for the evenings, which the Shelborne has, you have some privacy.
Though their exercise equipment is nothing special, the Shelborne has a coed sauna in the fitness center that doesn't get much use. Miriam the lady that runs it has put a curtain up near it, so you have privacy even outside the sauna. I used it nude, and would slip next door to the shower for a cool off periodically.
Not to ruin a good thing, but let's just say that this hotel's facilities aren't real busy at night, something that's attractive to the two of us, in or out of thongs.
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Date Posted:02/29/2004 04:39:11Copy HTML
The Ramada Inn is a little far north, 40th street. You will want to walk south from there to find the main action and night life. 5th to 17th
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Although I havent stayed there, Ive read a lot of reviews on travel sites that people find it way overpriced. There are however a good number of thongs behind it on the beach.
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I live in Miami and can say the Loews is a thong friendly hotel... They certainly will not turn you away but in the summer months they promote a lot to families, even showing "Dive-In" movies at the pool... Certainly on the beach you'll find other girls in thongs, but fewer and fewer guys. The Speedos are starting to disappear from South Beach as well... more square cut and board shorts than ever. South Beach is going very urban lately.
For some great thonging (or nude sunbathing) you may want to try Haulover Beach located north of South Beach. You can drive, about 8 miles along Collins Ave or even take the "S" bus all the way to the beach.
Enjoy your stay! Maybe I'll be in town and we could go thonging together..
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Glad to hear you enjoyed the Loews. South Beach is hardly thong friendly for guys but the boys certainly want the girls wearing them. I've even noticed the disappearance of Speedos on South Beach. More square cuts and board shorts over the past year. Hope you had a chance to get up to Haulover Beach while you were here. It's our official nude beach, but you will certainly find thongers there, especially on weekends.
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You'll be fine on the whole beach at South Beach. I've not been there in the summer yet; spring break was a little busy and spring breakers were in abundance, but still no thong issues other than the occasional comment from a distance. The other times we've been there was in Sept. and Oct., which was nice because it's not quite as busy and crowded, a little more laid back. My experience on the beach there, was a few other men in thongs, but not lots. Thongs a plenty on the women though, and enough toplessness to keep it interesting! A great place for people watching, and even if they aren't wearing a thong the bikinis are nice to look at too!
The hotels we stayed at were South Beach Best Western on 11th and Washington, and Haddon Hall on 15th and Collins, both thong friendly and close to the beach. Nice hotels, but definitely not the modern high rise type, and not high rise in price either, $60-$70 which is in my range. There's so many hotels down there I think you could find any range of price and features you want. Other than an evening dip in the pool I didn't use it much though, I use the beach for sunbathing and swimming during the day; it's a neat scene down there, wouldn't want to be stuck in a hotel pool. Although the pool at Best Western is right in the front courtyard, only divided from the sidewalk by a low wall, so there you're kind of still in on the street life while at the pool. I liked that setup a lot. Can't beat the beach though.
The worst thing about South Beach was the trash. Man did it get bad on the weekends. The city crews did alot to clean it up, but it's obvious most people there just don't care about their litter. I went around picking up trash Monday morning just so I didn't feel like I was laying out in a landfill.
Good luck and post a review when you get back!
|Corby Killian
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I have stayed at the Dezerland Inn on 87th and Collins twice, and although not on South Beach, it is very thong friendly, and the beach out behind it is not quite as crowded, but still plenty of thongs. I walked up and down the beach for a mile or 2 each way from there in nothing but a thong almost every day and every night. It's only a couple miles north to Haulover beach if you want to strip down all the way too.
I took a couple of my moonlight walks completely nude, and rna into a few folks, but never got a great deal of reaction.
I would like to get back there this summer if I can pull it off(no pun intended)
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Re the National Hotel at 1677 Collins Ave. I haven't stayed there or been in their pool during the day I've been on the beach behind there a lot. I wouldn't think thongs would be any problem. Topless seems to be at the discretion of the hotel though widely accepted on the beach. I've seen lots of topless at the small-medium hotels, but not at the Loews or Ritz carlton.
When staying at the Shelborne at 18th last Fall the pool wasn't real crowded for it's size and one afternoon there were three guys, all in thongs, and three women, all in thongs, two topless. It was the first time I'd been in an all thong situation. That week there were some south american women staying there who wore gstring bottoms the whole time and didn't seem to own tops, and their tans said they never wore them.
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Date Posted:09/22/2004 02:48:59Copy HTML
Just got back from a long weekend in South Beach. The National Hotel's pool is fantastic, but there was not a soul there who was thonging. I wore a string side bikini (tan thru) whenever I was there. The beach was great and had more topless and thonged women than most of the other sections of the beach. I was the only guy in a thong (and g-string), although there were a couple of European men in bikinis. The crowd was definitely a little older and more sedate than the crowd around Ocean Drive and 8th St. and I didn't feel threatened or harassed in any way. All in all, I would definitely go back to that area of South Beach.
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I will be spending a week at the Delano in South Beach in November and was wondering what the attitude toward male thonging is at this hotel. Does anyone have any experience with the Delano??
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I can't say I've been at the pool in a thong but have been out on the beach in thier area and it's no problem! I have only once or twice seen a guy in a thong in their beach lounges.
I remember seening a stunning woman in a thong bottom with striped waist band, she only wore the top to go inside. I saw later at a store this was a YSL thong costing $400.
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Thanks for the input. I will be at the Delano Nov. 5th -11th for buisiness and leaving the family at home. I suppose I will pack a few thongs for the trip and if the pool isn't the place to be I'll check out the beach in front. I will provide some insight on return if anyone is interested.
Given the price of the room (work is paying) I am not surprised at the price of peoples swim attire. However, 400 bucks for a thong seems quite a bit over the edge.
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Just a follow up to the delano. The hotel is very nice. The mix of people is interesting, many with a lot of attitude. Very interesting to be a fly on the wall for a week. The service is outstanding and just about every need can be attended to either at the pool or on the beach.
Thonging at the Delano was not a problem. I tended to wear a Joe Snyder rio thong on the beach and at the pool a JS capri bikini. Basically people were quite indifferent. I doubt much would be noticed as different as normalcy is perhaps not the norm.
The pool scene is just that, it is quite a scene. The pool lounges are right on top of the person next to you and to secure one facing the sun it must be reserved as the pool opens at 7:30. If you arrive and the top of the lounge is turned down it has already been reserved. This can be quite painful as most seem to get up and reserve a lounger and not return until hours later.
I think the beach is your best bet as you can maintain a bit of personal space and still be waited on by the pool staff if you request. I found it to be more relaxing.
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I was in South BEach last week and the wether was cloudy and really could. I went jogging in the morning by 10 00 am and the beach was deserted just me and like 5 other running. no one in the beach with swim suit or anything else.
If you are planning to go to the beach I suggest you to choose another time, or other place. Right now can be freezy and you can waste your money. I did my college in Fort Lauderdale and I can tell you that from now till February the wether can mess up your vacations.
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I was at South Beach on Dec 24... altho there were a few people, I didn't see the tons of thong-clad people/topless people as expected.... oh well.. perhaps it was too cold for most people?
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Thongs on south beach are pretty scarce any time of the year. Hard to believe the most tolerant of all beaches in Florida or the US for that matter and you rarily see anyone in a thong. It may have to do with the fact that European sunbathers are not as common on south beach as they once were.
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Re: "Thongs on south beach are pretty scarce any time of the year." No kidding, This is JANUARY in the Northen Hemespher this is called it's WINTER TIME!!
It may be positivly tropical for you folks from the snow belt, but we locals find the weather a little chilled.
P.S. Most of us work in the week.
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My wife and I visted South beach three times in October & November and we saw lots of thongs. It depends on the day of the week and the weather. One of the days was a sunday and it was sunny and nice. It would say that 50% of the women were either topless or thonging it was the most amazing thing we have ever seen on an American beach. We saw about 3 guys in thongs early in the morning I wore mine and got some great comments. My wife wore her thong all day. We saw a couple groups of families with little kids and the women were wearing thongs. South beach is crazy, we even saw two topless girls in thongs makingout in the ocean right in front of everyone.
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I went to south beach last october in two ocations (wensday and sunday )and I need to agree that It was crazy, after I rented the car at the airport the first thing that did was to drive to SoBe to see the ambience and what I saw on wensday was COOL, a hot girl rolerblading like at 3 pm in a thong like nothing is going on, I get exited, then I look to the other side and saw a waitress coverded with a see thru tight and you can see clearly that she was wearing a thong. I was dressed and mom and dad reserved a hotel in Fort Lauderdale so they were wathing for us so I told to my wife, I dont want to live this place without see the beach., ? dont have my swim suit so im just going to see the beach?we parked the car and then we spend like 5 minutes.
I went back on sunday and I need to agre that not too much boys were in thong but a lot of girls do it and some of thems are g strings. I saw families with small kids and the mom in thong and topless. so is a nice beach if the weather is ok. My cruse departed like at 5 so I spend just like 2 hours, so I didnt enjoyed the beach.
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What hotels that are on the beach or very close to the beach in Miami that are thong friendly? I'm planning a vacation (hopefully)this year and I want to be close the beach for a few days either in South Beach or further up Miami Beach. But I wonder which hotels you could lounge in the hot tub or even use the pool etc, etc in thong or small g-string.
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Has anyone had experience with the "Standard Hotel" (formerly Lido Spa Hotel) on Miami Beach? It's a hotel on an island on the Venetian Causeway near Miami Beach near South Beach. I had heard of it but a recent article in the Wall St. Journal on "DIY Spas" brought it to my attention with a review of the spa there.
It's a two story place on the Bay waterfront. It has Spa facilities that you can use or not use, but it seems to have some unique things. It's not on the beach but seems like a relaxing place for a couple to go. Many of the rooms have outdoor rooms screened off by guaze type curtains. Many have outdoor soaking tubs that you can of course use nude. The spa has a "mud bath" area where you strip down and put mud over yourself or each other, and lay out in the sun, then shower it off. This area is clothing optional though "swimsuits required" I heard is posted elsewhere. Some reviews I read said that swimsuits are not always in view--most women are topless everywhere. I'd think there'd be thongs everywhere too.They have a huge infinity pool on the bay, a bayside sundeck, pool deck and hot tub spas out there. The place is a little expensive but not like many "Spa" hotels.
Here are some reviews. Any other reviews anyone finds might be helpful.
Of course many reviewers think the curtains around the outdoor baths are not modest enough, and think that clothing optional coed mud bathing isn't comfortable. (several have said the mud ruined their suits--duh it soaks in your skin). One reviewer said because of construction they moved dining tables around the pool deck and put people dining in front of the mud bath area so I guess if diners don't mind nudity then it's an open place.
Check out the candid traveller photos on tripadvisor, it looks like they don't light the pool area like a prison yard at night--more romantic and makes skinny dipping possible. The outdoor rooms would be great for romance and the place may be great for a honeymoon or second honeymoon.
I know it's not near the TNT SouthBeach or clubs but if you heard of this place in another location it would be great....maybe a good place to go before or after several days staying right on South Beach.
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Good places for a guy to thong, anywhere on the Beach. The beach around 12th street is the gay area if that is your orientation. I have found that the areas between 17th and Collins Park (20th street) attract a more mature, european crowd (this is where the Delano, National, Setai, etc. are located). I have never had any problems anywhere along the beach from South Beach to Ft. Lauderdale. The South Beach area is generally considered to be south of 25th street or so.
As for Hotels, the ones listed above and the Ritz Carlton, Regency, and Victor are fabulous (and expensive). One nice and not that outrageous Hotel on Ocean Drive that I know of is the Ocean Steps on about 13th street. It also houses Hosteria Romana which is a wonderful and fun Italian restaurant. The Pelican (home of Front Porch - best place for breakfast) seems nice as does the Park Central around 7th street. On the low end are hotels like Aqua, and the Clay Hotel on Washington. Don't miss Espanola Way, a unique street off of Washington south of 15th. It is just like many of the small european streets, like Rue Mercier in Lyon.
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I can say that on South Beach many hotels are thong friendly. We've stayed at the Shelbourne Beach Resort at 18th and Collins many times and have worn thongs and g strings at the pool and in the sauna and hot tub without any issues. The hotel used to have a deck in the lawn enclosed by only shrubs that was for nude sunbathing - some people walking by could see, never stared, but after several years it was taken out, it didn't seem to be used too much- each time I used it I rarely saw anyone else there. Then they started using a rooftop deck but that didn't get much use either. Anyway around the pool is no trouble for thongs. Once there on a visit during the Fall I can say I was a part of an all thong pool. There were two other guys in thongs, and two women in G strings, one topless there beside me in a g string. During Spring Break there can be hundreds of college students around the pool, few thongs. I've seen thongs, and topless sunbathing at the Sagamore, Raleigh , and Delano hotels, in addition to the beach. I've walked miles up and down the beach in just a g string. You'll see women topless in gstrings doing the same.
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I live in Miami Beach and thus have not personally stayed in many of the hotels. I do know that the entire area is thong friendly and the hotels are as well. I have been in the Loews pool and pool bar in a g-string and a slingshot (the slingshot story is part of another post) as well as the Sagamore in a g-string and the National in a thong. I doubt that any hotel would give you a hard time wearing most anything. Have a great stay and enjoy South Beach.
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I have stayed at the Days Inn South Beach, and my micro G was no problem.
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We stayed at The Savoy in the summer of '06 and thongs were common on the beach in front of our hotel. My gf wore a Malibu String thong every day we were there at the beach and the pool. I wore a thong during the weekdays but found the crowd a bit too rowdy over the weekend so I switched to a bikini. Most of the ladies also kept their tops on over the weekend too.
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I stayed at the Marriott South Beach last year and thonged on the beach in front of the hotel and at the hotel pool with no issue whatsoever. Enjoy your stay in Florida.


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