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Drag Queen YouTuber Tre Melvin "Bravely" Reveals What Everyone Already Knew
First of all, before we dig into the meat of this topic, let's get some basic questions out of the way:
"Nick, who da fuk is Tre Melvin?"
I know, right? I only had vaguely heard about him until a video of him "coming Out" surfaced on my Facebook news feed. I'd previously seen some of his videos but didn't care for them at all. Maybe its because I'm not 16-21 years old.
Apparently the young 21-year-old man has quite the following. He's racked up nearly 2 million YouTube subscribers (you read that right) making him kinda Internet Famous. Props to him. You can make money off of YouTube and judging by the numbers he's doing on all original content, he's likely getting a decent monthly check from Google.
"Why you hating on his success then, you jeally nicca?"
LOL. No, I'm not jealous of this brother getting money legally. More power to him. Matter of fact, by even talking about this dude and posting his video on my own popular forum, I'm helping him to make more money.
Okay, here's the video in question. On New Years, Tre Melvin "revealed" to his fans that he was Bisexual in this overly dramatic video that has since received hundreds of thousands of views.
Now…first off…At 21 years old, I wasn't about to post a video of me "coming Out" on the Internet. No, sir. So the dude definitely gets props for that. It seemed like through all of the fake bravado he injected into the monologue over the dramatic music, it was actually a big deal for him to publicly admit and do.
Secondly, the tide is turning for Gay and Bisexual men in regards to how the general public views us. So being a young man who's not only easy on the eyes but also has perceptible masculinity to him will be a plus in his eventual pursuit of penis over the next 20-30 years. I kinda envy him for all of the cock that will be thrown his way now that he's an Out Gaylebrity.
Who da fuk out there didn't know this shit to the point he had to "come Out?"
I mean, seriously?
Okay, lemme state my case, Your honor.
The man wears colored contacts! Colored Contacts, Your Honor!
In 2014, he actually places each green/hazel contact on each finger every morning and pops them bitches into his eyes!
Okay. I don't actually have any proof that he's wearing colored contacts. His eyes could really just naturally look like he's one of the kids in Village of the Damned.
Don't get me wrong. He's not an ugly dude. Far from it. Ummm….He does look a little underage…like young-young….like you could do prison time for even just fantasizing about touching his naughty parts in your mind, young….but he's not unattractive.
The eyes though…they come off kinda "Gay."
No, they come off VERY "Gay."
If I were him and that was really my eye color, I would wear Colored Contacts to make me eyes look "normal." Like, call my eye doctor up and say:
"Do you have these Acuvue soft lenses in Brown? Gimme the darkest Brown you got, Doc."
Okay, Your Honor. You say eye color is no indication that people already knew this man was "Gay?"
Can we turn down the lights, I have a slideshow that I would like to present at the court's permission.
And these are just the ones I could grab in a 5 minute YouTube search, Your Honor.
He's a DRAG QUEEN!
No seriously.
The Oxford Dictionary defines a Drag Queen as: "a man who dresses up in women's clothes, typically for the purposes of entertainment."
Now I ask you again, who da fuk out there didn't know this man was into copious amounts of penis to the point he had to "come Out?"
Its so obvious that even Tre Melvin's characters would have responded to him like:
Okay. Okay. Lemme calm down. Nothing to get excited about.
Just because a man dresses up as a woman on a consistent basis, that doesn't make him Gay. I mean, look at Tyler Perry. No gay suspicions and rumors there.
You know, the reason why I'm bringing all this up is not to downplay this young man's "bravery"…well, hold up…maybe it is a little bit.
How is this considered "Brave?"
This man owns and wears more wigs than my mother, yet its bravery for him to come Out as Bisexual?
While we're on the subject of Bisexuality, I am not one of those people who thinks that Bisexuality doesn't exist. Those nuts are in the same camp as the people who believe that George W. Bush orchestrated 9-11. However, in the case of Tre Melvin…methinks the Lady doth protest too much.
Look…I'm an older gay man living in Atlanta. I've seen many-a-Tre-Melvins start off with strong, masculine voices and mannerisms…they get a few effeminate gay friends…hit a few gay clubs where they see even more flamboyancy displayed and celebrated…next thing you know they're booty-popping to Beyonce and Rihanna songs with their shirt off.
That's not to say that "fem is bad"…I'm just saying, I already know how this movie is gonna end. Tre Melvin is gonna end up *snap* FABULOUS in a few years.
So in this case, that whole "I'm Bisexual" thing will hold about as much weight as Jennifer Hudson Post-Dreamgirls. See, its spreading! I just made a fucking gay-ass Dreamgirls reference!
Seriously though. Am I COMPLETELY wrong to say Tre Melvin could have just lived his life freely without the big declaration? I mean, as cold as this sounds, do effeminate men really "need" to come Out of the closet if its pretty clear that everyone already assumes that they're likely gay anyway?
[That tapping sound you now hear is the mouse-clicks from Gay men angrily leaving the site to declare their disdain for patriarchy on Twitter]
Real talk though, wouldn't it actually be "Brave" for a gay man who, by all accounts, displayed absolutely NO hints that he was gay or bisexual? Like a man's Man…Not a Drag Queen with pretty light eyes, exquisite eye-lashes and nice full d**k sucking lips…
Anyway, I'll end my closing argument much the same way Matthew McConaughey did in A Time To Kill:
I want you to picture a frail, twinkish man wearing colored contacts who often dresses up in drag and acts like various types of women in videos for the world to see……
I want you to picture this little man coming Out of the closet……
*Dramatic Pause*
Can you see him……?
*Another Even More Dramatic Pause*
………..Now imagine that he's Masculine.
*Drops Mic*
The defense rests.
Nick Delmacy
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Dre G
You REALLY gotta enjoy drag to put together some of these outfits,especially ex.E. But you'd be surprised how deep in denial ppl can be.i work with a guy who is two cups of sugar away from being Little Richard,but he has a gf so (a few) people are fooled
Wiki Lee
I saw his "revelation" appear on Tumblr on New Year's but didn't pay any attention to it. Hell, I didn't even know who he was, I mean looking at him, who couldn't already see that? lol But dang, Nick, "exquisite eyelashes & d*ck sucking lips"? lmbo
Wait a minute, Dreamgirls references are gay?? But anyway, just to play Devil's Advocate, don't people consider the singer Prince to be a straight dude who likes to wear makeup and women's clothing? Maybe Tre Melvin assumed people thought the same about him.
I think most people always thought of Prince as just androgynous. That might be the case here but I'm not sure where the line is drawn.
Nick Delmacy
Holup…Prince was flamboyant and questionable….BUT I don;t remember him actually pretending to be women consistently…From what I remember he rocked them women's clothes like he still had a nutsack. Kinda different from Drag Queens…
Ace of hearts
I'm with @nick Prince was questionable, but I don't ever recall him as fully emulating a woman.
So Prince gets a pass because it took less effort for him to look girly? But anyway, maybe it's just a Sign O' The Times (pun intended) that Tre Melvin felt he needed to come out. He's a 90's baby. Straight men his age wear skinny jeans, scarves, get pedicures and watch shows like the Real Housewives of Atlanta and Scandal. Gay slang like "shade" is now in use by straight people of both genders. As a result, I really think Tre Melvin believed he needed to "come out" because it wouldn't be obvious to everyone.
Damn @lilreddude you took the words right out of my mouth in regards to Prince getting a pass lol…
Side bar I was actually surprised at his voice…the lips are great lmao
Ocky Williams
African King
When I was in ATL in summer 2011 for a program at Morehouse, over half of the str8 men actually used the term "shade." I never knew about that slang until I was in the ATL. Then when I started to notice that more gays used it through reality TV, I was like… OH! LOL.
Ocky Williams
African King
hahahaha i remember seeing the new dress code being reinstated while I stayed in the Otis Moss Suites about how men must dress like men. I was nervous before going then I saw that no guys had purses, pumps, etc.
Nick Delmacy
Terms like "Shade" being used by straight women doesn't count. Straight men don't say that kinda stuff because its still primarily associated with femininity. Unfortunately, femininity and gay still is seen as being interchangeable….even by most gays.
Ive heard str8 guys say shade…albeit not usually with the same tone. Maybe it depends on the age group, these ppl were all in there 20s.
Ocky Williams
Here is my belief…gay people say "shade" while sta8 or dare I say heteronormative people say "shady"…same meaning but not the same thing.
Probably generally the case, but i've personally heard multiple str8 guys say shade (with an "e") also..Again, I think its an age (ppl in their 20s moreso) thing… I am sure there are a good amount of str8 guys that don't use the word though..
Ocky Williams
This is a PSA…Prince gets a pass because #1) he is a famous ( legend even) rock/pop/r&b star. #2) Prince gets mad pussy (or at least use to). And the women he has sleep with have no problem telling the world…so he can at least claim Bi-sexual #3) I have never seen Prince in drag. I have never seen him impersonate a woman. Why is he a part of this conversation? Why isn't anyone using the Tyler Perry analogy that was in the article to argue a defense?
Don't let the fact that Prince doesn't wear dresses or wigs fool you. He has worn makeup, blouses, big as earrings and styles his hair like a woman. I used him as an example because people don't generally assume that he is gay even though his appearance at times suggests otherwise.
Ocky Williams
"He has worn makeup, blouses, big as earrings and styles his hair like a woman" what rock star hasn't including Lenny Kravitz? How does this relate to being a full fledged Drag Queen?
You're missing my point. I'm saying that someone's appearance can differ from gender norms, yet they can still be considered "straight". Yes Tre Melvin appears as a woman in his videos, however it appears to be for entertainment purposes. If we assume that everyone who has ever done drag for entertainment purposes are gay, then Martin Lawrence and Wesley Snipes are all gay too. I feel that Tre Melvin felt the need to come out because you can't ALWAYS assume that feminine traits or a drag appearance equate to homosexuality. Especially if done for the entertainment of others.
Nick Delmacy
Holup! You got a little thing for Tre Melvin! Aww thas cute…How old are you? He's def already got a boyfriend by now, I'm sure.
Nick Delmacy
Ocky Williams
You are correct; however in this instance with Tre…he is gay/bisexual by his own admission. Before his admission I think a lot if not most people assumed he was gay (right or wrong) therefore for those same people the dramatic "brave" video was a "what was the point of this" moment.
Nick Delmacy
Nicca, why you all off topic trying to get dudes to call Prince gay. He is effeminate. We all agree. Case closed. Now back to the Drag Queen related to this article…Ain't nothing ambiguous or androgynous about the photos of this "bisexual" man shown above, lol. I don't believe for one second that he can "take yo' bitch" as he proclaims. He looks like a kid who MIGHT be a top for now but will DEFINITELY become versatile or a bottom before he hits 25. That's not an insult, just to say that the whole "bisexual" thing will be a distant memory by then
Ocky Williams
LOL..OMG you awful LOLOL So you saying the more comfortable he gets he is no longer gonna crave the brown donut?
Nick Delmacy
All I'm saying is he's very "pretty", he's got dick sucking lips, he's VERY comfortable with his feminine side…its just a matter of time before a muscular masculine dude turns him out….
Nick Delmacy
Right. Tre Melvin might be an inbetween bottom…which is kinda hot if you take away his love for women's clothes. But seriously though, my assumption comes from him clinging in to the "I'll take your bitch" attitude…as if he's the dominate type or aggressor.
Ocky Williams
My question to you Los would be what emails have you sent or what comments have you left on any of Tre's youtube videos about his CONSTANT negative and stereotypical portrayals of black women? If the answer is none…as a Doctor of Psychology (LOL i love when people tell you their titles when no one asks) if the answer is none…seek help.
If Tre can be opinionated and judgmental about about black culture and black women…we can be opinionated and judgmental about Tre. Also did you miss any of the genuine praise that was given to him in the article or did manufactured outrage have your psychological vagina in a knot at the mere idea that we had the audacity (gasp)to criticize another Out gay-lebrity? Also…thanks for visiting the site.
"phychological vagina"…. and thanks for visiting the site? @Ocky, you know how to slice a brother and then help him to the emergency room. *Note to self* do not read ocky's posts while drinking hot coffee. LOL
Black Pegasus
Ace of hearts
Ummm so first lol @nick for the Tyler Perry comment!
To the article I'm with you I already thought homeboy was gay so this isn't a shock. I also want to know what his is fan base. I've seen him before because friends have shown me but they were gay. Maybe I should go look at the comments and se if anyone is shocked… I'm not!
Ocky Williams
African King
The edge @Nick had in the Discreet City days is BACK!!!! Nicely written article brother.
I knew who he was and just assumed he was already openly gay lol. Everyone I know that watches his stuff is a full fledged gay.
I gave an nasty sideeye though when he said bisexual. Reminds me of one of my friends who has never seen a woman naked, knows all of Beyonce's routines, and still claims to be bisexual. I guess that's just easier to say for some people.
Ace of hearts
Ocky Williams
" and still claims to be bisexual. I guess that's just easier to say for some people"
"Imagine that he's masculine"……………..Well that's essentially all we can do @Nick since most masculine men equate these types of announcements as publicity stunts or fem queens looking for their 15 minutes of fame(your words not mine). I think masculine men would be harder on other masculine men for doing this type of thing. I just don't see it happening. But, yeah, i'll let my imagination run wild.
Ocky Williams
"I think masculine men would be harder on other masculine men for doing this type of thing."
Wrong and I think most would welcome it however unless there is a real "need" to do it…WTF is the point? Also…what masculine athlete was Cypher Ave's Athlete of the year for 2013? See what I mean…no youtube declarations needed with emotional dubbed music in the back ground. Stop Playin
Ok. So the issue is with the way in which they announce. Ok. I understand that. My point was nick was asking us to imagine if this was a masculine guy doing this and I was stating that masculine gay black men WOULDN'T see fit to make an announcement in this manner.
And to your statement of "unless there is a need to do it", I ask what would be the need? I thought the general consensus around here was that who we sleep with doesn't need to be declared in such a public way. I don't really see a need to wish for anyone to tell me who they're boning, however, when gay dudes have made their sexuality public as was the case with the fraternity dude, my feeling was why is he doing this if not for fame. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.
Nick Delmacy
Journalism 101: Properly attributing quotes. I failed miserably. You never said that so I apologize profusely. I was attempting to recall the conversation we had regarding the frat dude who was denied entrance by his fraternity due to him being gay. I remembered you implying that he was doing this all for 15 minutes of fame and I was trying to understand how you equated his public allegations with him grand standing for fame. I just don't foresee a coming-out process where a gay dude won't be accused of looking for attention, or having some ulterior motive for making such a public declaration.
Nick Delmacy
Apples and Oranges. The fraternity dude wasn't "coming Out"…he was already Out and filing a complaint about supposed discrimination.
Ive never seen or heard of this dude before, but if u dont look at him and automatically assume he's gay, ur thinkin too hard.
Ocky Williams
Just so I understand…looking at a grown man that dresses as a woman and thinking he is gay is thinking to hard?
Actually, the opposite. I said ur thinking too hard if u dont think this niga is gay off the bat. But Im not even talkin about the drag, Im talkin about just looking at him. That niga gay!
Spare me the diatribe about 'gay' not having a 'look'. We all get it. But, this is like reading about sum1 in Compton committing ebt fraud, and not automatically thinking theyre black, just becus 'not all ebt users are black'. Sometimes it's a damn duck!
Ocky Williams
y'all niggas be haten what he is trying to say is even though he bisexual he can still fuck yo bitch that is if they have not seen the video do not judge this young man on how he will live his life just because you only like girls harry for you i only like girls and i would be friends with him but stop judging him cause if you said that to me you would be in a casket or a body brace
nigga a duck you fucking slow or that might mean another word for white if it is then that is CONFUSING as FUCK SIR
I enjoyed his videos. Yes it was brave of him to disclose his sexuality publicly. Its a shame that some would seek to redicule and attack this young man. And we argue that others make it so hard for black men to love themselves and live their truth, when some of us turn around and do the same hateful thing that we claim we are against. I support your bravery tre
Nick Delmacy
LMAO! So nothing opinionated can ever be said about someone who comes Out as Gay?! You just said you enjoy the videos where Tre Melvin REGULARLY mocks and ridicules people, yet he's off limits for being mocked or ridiculed himself?! GTFOH! Dude you are way too sensitive…
Ocky Williams
Got-dammit you beat me to it…shit! But let me go even further… couldn't one argue that he paints a negative image of black women?
Nick Delmacy
One could argue that and one has just argued that….you… But @jamaicanbiglove and his consistent "stop being a self hating bully" stance will choose to ignore that, lol
ithis articleis messy. Th irony is that this artcle is most " fem queen" i have seen on the website. There is nothing funny or uplift or entertaining about it. All it highlights is that this article would fit in on mediatakeout or some other gossip site
Cyrus Brooks
I don't think anyone is mocking or attacking Tre Melvin. To me the article was an observation. Also some good points were made that his coming out just wasn't that surprising. When he dresses like a man he's not super obvious like say Richard Simmons. But Tre is a little fruity around the edges like a lot of Tue guys his age. No big deal it is what is.
Exhibit REY
This isn't an attack against you Nick or the Cypher Avenue website but I'm not entirely sure what this blog post is supposed to be about.
#1 – Tre Melvin is NOT a Drag Queen. If so, then by the definition you provided, Martin Lawrence, Tyler Perry, Eddie Murphy and a slew of other black and white Hollywood actresses are drag queens since they've adorned women's attire for "entertainment purposes".
#2 – I'm not sure what/how his physical attributes (eye color, eye lashes, and "dick sucking lips") come into play when it comes to someone "looking gay". Members of this site and countless other sites for black gay men who don't look like Tre are proof that being gay doesn't have a specific look to it. I'm pretty sure there are tons of men in the world with similar features as Tre who aren't gay. If anything, we're just playing with urban myths and what society tells gay men look like when someone says "he looks gay".
#3 – If he claims he's bisexual, who's to say he isn't? Are we basing him not being bisexual, but indeed gay, solely off how he comes off in a bunch of pointless amateur Youtube videos?
Granted, I do think the LGBTQ community uses the word "Brave" way too often when it comes to someone coming out of the closet but then again, who knows the circumstances surrounding Tre's "coming out" video so I can't necessarily agree or disagree with you on this.
Again, I'm not taking shots @ you Nick but I'm perplexed as to what this is really about…
Nick Delmacy
"#1 – Tre Melvin is NOT a Drag Queen. If so, then by the definition you provided, Martin Lawrence, Tyler Perry, Eddie Murphy are drag queens."
Yup, they are. Wikipedia even agrees with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_queen
Scroll down to "In Movies" and you'll see all of the names you mentioned and more. Men who dress up as women for the entertainment of others are Drag Queens.
"#2 – I'm not sure what/how his physical attributes (eye color, eye lashes, and "dick sucking lips") come into play when it comes to someone "looking gay"."
Some people just "look gay." They do. You're in denial if you don't agree with this. We've all seen a guy in public who "looked gay." What look that is may be different for different ppl, but there is a look. For me its small twinkish looking dudes with pretty eyes and eyelashes who dress up as women. That "looks gay" to me.
"#3 – If he claims he's bisexual, who's to say he isn't? Are we basing him not being bisexual, but indeed gay, solely off how he comes off in a bunch of pointless amateur Youtube videos?"
I state in the article that my personal opinion is that he may not be truly bisexual…I didn't state it as fact though. I've written an entire essay about the reasons some gay men say they are bisexual when it may not actually be the truth: http://cypheravenue.com/the-myth-of-the-bisexual/
You're entitled to disagree… no need to worry about us viewing your personal opinions as an attack. Conversely, don't view anyone's response to your comments as an attack against you either. Just conversation.
Aw dang Nick, why you gotta drag this poor brother like this? LMAO I've got to say that after working both in Public Health and Public Education, its kind of hard to tell what these young men are into with their skinny jeans, colorful fashions, etc, etc,.
I agree that he could be classified as a drag queen, but I give the guy respect because he's used some of the money he earned from Ad Cents (?, Youtube) and has started a scholarship fund which is more than I can say for our MOST of our masculine sgl men of color. He's finding his way, and if he thinks this is brave (which I don't recall him ever saying) then let it be his version of brave. I'm not sure what examples you've seen or experienced yourself but I haven't really noticed the tides turning in favor of gays unless it was for those gays who push around high heels and rock mac make up.
He may not be a "man's man", but he's a kid and he's doing the best to live according to his terms and that appears to be outside of Cypher's opinion of what the holy grail of masculine looks like.
I don't think that anyone but Tre can decide if he needed to make this video declaring his sexuality, but from what he tweeted me, he did it for personal reasons, maybe he feels freer now that he's done it. What's the harm in that?
Oh, and don't assume that he's "into copious amounts of penis ". He could be (holds it in)…..he could be (struggles)….dammit HE COULD BE A TOP (bursts into laughter).
Ocky Williams
Not speaking for anyone; nonetheless I don't see where anyone stated there was a problem or that someone (Tre) has done anything wrong or harmful. He is currently living in his truth by "coming out". I believe the opinionated commentary was questioning how can OR does a professional drag queen need to come outta the closet.
Also what continues to be ignored isn't that his drag stereotypes casting a negative opinionated perception of black women? Sassy, attitude, etc. Why does this seem okay and not questioned?
Nick Delmacy
So, I don't understand. Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of your arguments of Tre being gay was that he looks gay because he wears color contacts, and if he wasn't wearing contacts his eyes still make him look gay. Well if this is the case Prince in fact is gay. What straight dude wears assless pants, sports a perm, has a soft ass voice, and wears a woman's blouse.
I'm not trying to stray from the topic but you can't go off looks alone, because I know guys that I swore were gay that are knocking down every female they meet. You can't knock one person and excuse another for the same thing
Now, don't get me wrong it was no shock to me that he was gay, and I like the website, but sometimes y'all reach. And practice what you preach because using a pic from a Beyonce music video as a thumbnail for an article ain't that masculine at all bruh. (don't perpetuate the stereotype that all gay black men like Beyonce) lol
Nick Delmacy
Damn man…you got us…using an obscured photo of Beyonce for an article not even about Beyonce is the same as a man constantly dressing up and pretending to BE Beyonce. Check Mate, homie. You won this round. (sarcasm)
Ocky Williams
Nick Delmacy
First off, lemme say I love this thread…We have tons of ppl commenting dissenting opinions while Ocky and I, backs to the wall, try to defend them. I told you guys we were going back to basics, lol.
Secondly, all of those images of Tre crossdressing SHOULD defeat any argument that no one could have suspected that he was gay (or bisexual, same difference, he likes dudes). But ppl are programmed to think that straight is normal and that gay is abnormal. Even gay ppl think this. As if calling an admitted gay man "Gay" on a gay website is that huge of an insult. How dare we?
What's contradictory about this is if Tre Melvin's voice was just a tad more effeminate, this would be a non-issue for people disagreeing with me. We like to pretend that stereotypes don't exist, but they do…even for men like Tre Melvin who makes loads of money off of perpetuating them (ghetto sassy black women stereotypes).
It's interesting that you bring up the voice @nick because that definitely threw me for a loop. I was expecting that lispy twang @ocky was talking about in another thread and when I heard that deep voice, I felt like someone was dubbing the video. So I guess everyone plays into stereotypes, including us gay men. I get the whole pretty eyes equal gay message your spitting too but I've seen many a black straight man wearing colored contact lenses. I'm a brown guy with a lighter brown eye and I get compliments on them all the time but I don't think anyone ever said, He has pretty eyes…he's gay. I think Tre's eyes are natural by the way and it's not the color that did it. It's the eyebrows nick and the fact that it appears he's wearing mascara. You gotta learn the difference.
Nick Delmacy
No you're right, its not just the eyes, its the whole package with Tre. He looks gay…he looks gay in a pretty, womanly way…LOL…But yo, if this were that Kid fury guy making a video saying he was Bisexual, my essay would apply to him as well…But because he's effeminate, people just assume he's gay without him needing to make a video declaration. Stereotypes.
That's kinda the whole point of Cypher Avenue. Breaking down those stereotypes. Deep voiced masculine men can like penis too.
it's a light-skin thing @nick you think? I'm referring to your pretty in a womanly way. And the fact that he's lacking facial hair. I've never heard dark skinned men referred to as pretty in a womanly way. LOL.
Nick Delmacy
You may be right…Maybe as a brown skinned man I'm conditioned to think the light skin is "prettier" but that's for a whole 'nother thread. Mainly I see Tre Melvin as being "soft" which makes him delicate to me. Like I could imagine him eating his french fries in tiny bites and getting full off of just a few…That's not a light skinned thing…LOL
Ocky Williams
Why oh why have I seen this as the beginning of so many sentences in this thread…"I've seen straight guys…". Who gives a fuck?
Guess what…Straight guys wearing colored contacts is still fucking gay ass hell. There are plenty of straight dudes that are fem as hell. Who cares what "straights" do? They are not the alpha-omega of whats masculine.
Black Pegasus
@rolandgarros28 – what proof do you have that TreMelvin's eyes are naturally green? If that's true, then parts this article will require a redaction.
it's called hazel eyes @Blackpegasus. You see that brown around the iris? Colored contacts don't look like that. And guys with his complexion can have naturally hazel eyes.
Black Pegasus
@rolandgarros28 – I follow ya, but you have to admit that Tre'Melvin's features just don't match his eye color, which would make one question their realness. He looks contrived or weird (for lack of a better term). All of which makes his "masculinity" come into question by many people across the internets. Here's someone else who I think looks weird with green eyes. Green Bay wide receiver Randall Cobb.
Staying on topic @BlackPegasus, His looks aren't feminine or "gay looking" because his eyes are light. It's the eyebrows, which he's waxed, and the eyelashes, which appear artificially curled, that give off the gay vibe. Although recently, I've seen more men waxing their brows period. Grooming is great for anyone but the question is when does grooming cross over into feminine if you now what I mean? Every man, including the masculine ones on this site, do things that were unthinkable to my dad and his friends. Seriously, how many straight/masculine gay men moisturize now and get pedicures. Now how many of those same men can say their fathers and grandfathers moisturized and got mani-pedis? I keepa tellin ya it's the grooming that gives the "gay-looking vibe."
Ocky Williams
For me this pic was a bad example. I'm extremely comfortable with my sexuality,thus I would easily allow Randall Cobb to put that thang in my face.
Black Pegasus
LMAO did @Ocky just say that?
Nick Delmacy
Ocky Williams
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Willie Daniels
I am a 55 year old gay African American Gay people come from all walks of life
Doctors teachers Writers etc I was also a Drag Queen in the early 1980's I would have sex with straight white male in rural Pennsylvania I was like the character in
Tom cruise movie Risky Business They would pick me up hitchhiking or answer my
ad I posted in gay mag I made over 13,000 I also had a car it was a EXTREMELY
secret world back them Thank GOD I am HIV NEGATIVE! people should allow people to be who they really are !
Cyrus Brooks
This post is so funny I had to add my 2 cents. I first heard of Tre Melvin about a year ago. I enjoy passing the time on YouTube and found his video, "sh*t that black guys say" by accident. He seemed like a funny guy and pretty "normal". When I started seeing him do characters like "Watermelondria" I knew what time it was. For us old heads who been around the block his coming out is no surprise. I was waiting on it. I also gotta say a large number of the males in Tre Melvin's age group (mid teens to early 20s just don't look that manly, even the str8 ones. For some reason this current generation of you men are just look and come off as soft. Its like the majority of then have low T. I have a feeling that environmental estrogens, GMO foods, and lack of male role models are the culprit.
Black Pegasus
@Cyrus-Brooks – most of them come from single Black female households, so some of those "environmental estrogens" may be present there. However, beyond the household, you have today's Hip Hop artists like Kanye West and a host of other skinny leg jeans wearing divas who have a great deal of influence.
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Cyrus Brooks
I'm inclined to agree. I think black female headed households is probably the main cause. This something that began in my generation. Almost all of my black friends growing up were from single parent households. I was raised for many years by a single parent. Luckily for me my father was around when I was young and I had uncles who stepped to the plate when my father was unavailable. But I also don't discount the negative affect of popular culture and how masculinity is portrayed negatively or cartoonishly one dimensional. Another problem is environmental estrogens, which is pollution that acts like estrogen when it enters the body. We are being poisoned by toxic chemicals, and hormones pumped into livestock by agribusiness. Who knows what negative impacts GMO foods are having. I'm not really concerned about skinny jeans. Styles come, go, and get recycled. Look at pictures from the 1970s those bell bottom pants were real tight. Jeans in the 1980s were pretty tight. The issue is people not the clothes.
I'm in my mid-20s, and I agree that there is somewhat of a difference between the generations…and clearly its because we are just more free (in the time we live in) to express ourselves in the way that is comfortable for us unlike those born before us [shrugs]. If its less "manly" for SOME old heads then I suppose that's just what it is but I am glad that if we, as individuals, want to be traditional we can, and if that's not who we naturally are we also have the freedom to find our own way (unlike many who came before us). I think about one of the Lord Jamar interviews I (painfully) watched on vladtv and, even outside of his homophobic ignorance, was amazed (but not shocked) at how he attacked Kanye and ASAP for the way they dressed saying it had "no place" in hip-hop, that this was not representative of what hip hop is. I then had to remember that, at the end of the day, he is of a certain generation and his opinions (which he has a right to and that I and most other ppl in my demographic could careless about anyway) are partly a reflection of the era in which he came up.
Cyrus Brooks
Lord Jamar is ignorant on so many levels. Anytime a black man can say Jews suffered more than we did because of the Holocaust I call into question his intelligence and loyalty black people. But I'm not surprised negative attitudes toward homosexuality come from Judaism, but that's a whole different discussion. At the end of the day I think people should be free to be who they wanna be. My point was that many young men are unmanly due to a variety of reasons most of which are cultural. It has nothing to do with sexual orientation because homosexuality is older than the human race itself. Back to Lord Jamar I think most of his problem is sour grapes. He's a has been rapper who trying to grab the spotlight by dissing A$AP Rocky and other new school rappers. He is as transparent as 3M tape.
Nick Delmacy
This thread has opened up a lot of old wounds from Discreet City, lol. Anyway, I actually applaud young men for being able to be "free" and who they want to be…The only problem I have is that SOMETIMES it comes at the expense of men who are fine with the status quo, men who actually are 100% comfortable being "old school men." Not some new hybrid of men and women. Not neanderthal bullies, just "regular guys." In the gay community, these men are sometimes shunned for not being authentic or being themselves…As if masculinity and homosexuality were not possible unless you were a masculine man who still embraces effeminate gay culture, which includes being a drag queen for comedy like Tre Melvin.
Ocky Williams
Hmm…I'll say this. IMO there is good and bad to everything. More "free" to express oneself maybe; however what we are witnessing is the result of feminists and mainstream gays blurring the gender lines and demonizing traditional masculinity as an effort to make everybody comfortable. For me it's not a generational thing; Kanye is 36 years old.
Very true, Kanye is 36 yrd old and to be real, I have seen tons of older gay kats that are more flamboyant than any of the younger ones Ive come in contact with. However, I think that this is the case because they grew up in a time when, frankly, it was not as acceptable to be a male and not behave, dress, or simply be a "certain way" and now that they can… My whole point in bringing up the Lord Jamar "thing" was that he comes from a generation of hip-hop where Kanye (who is of a diff generation despite age) and his clothes would not be accepted as part of the art form. Guys of a certain "era," more so, have had a lot more freedom to do them. I do not agree with demonizing anything and I do agree that SOME feminists and certain gays have attacked traditional masculinity (in the same way certain women are attacked for wanting to stay at home and raise children). HOWEVER, it goes BOTH ways. I don't take either side in that regard bc its w.e to me, but when "old heads," as was stated, think there is an issue because SOME younger guys are expressing themselves in non-traditional ways (and some of these ways are simply what is the style today generally like fitted pants), that's when it becomes problematic imo.
Ocky Williams
The mistake that is being made with this argument is that Lord Jamal is somehow the representative and definitive voice of the old school "generation" and that skinny leg jeans equals freedom to express one self. Like tight pants are a new generation y thing as a result of young boys and men now being able to be free. WTFukery? Please. What generation was Grand Master Flash & The Furious 5 from? What about Kool Moe D, KRS One, EPMD, Erick B, Run DMC, Doug E Fresh, LL, Whodini? All these dudes wore skinny / tight jeans?
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I never claimed that Lord Jamar was the representative of his "generation." He was, however, used as an example of what COULD be considered a disconnect between his and my (Kanye, ASAPs) generation, at least when it comes to hip hop. This then being connected to a statement made that started this whole piece of the thread basically saying that younger guys are less manly or w.e where again, I just think there MAY be a generational difference for SOME PPL in what is accepted and what is not which MAY affect why younger guys, gay or str8, may be considered less manly or w.e by SOME guys older than us, just my opinion. On skinny pants (and having style in general), they were used simply as an EXAMPLE of how something that MAY seem feminine to someone may simply just be the style at the moment (I am aware this trend is not new). On the contrary, I do not think that skinny pants are the [main] way ppl have been allowed to be free (although for some maybe their style of dress represents something for them), but some dudes simply are NOT rough, rugged, lets roll around in the dirt guys and this is perfectly fine. They were tons of boys back in the day that weren't either but that were forced to be (also causing dysfunction which someone mentioned earlier) and I am glad that we are moving away from this (although this forcing still does occur). Don't get me wrong, I like traditional regular guys as well as those that may be considered inbetween, as long as they are doing them, I don't care.
Cyrus Brooks
Exactly! Spot on! Also schools in America have become gynocracies. Boys are punished for displaying typical male behavior, especially black boys. With that kind of environment boys learn that maleness and masculinity are bad and feminity is good. It's not surprising so many young men are either pansies or dysfunctional.
Cyrus Brooks
Feminism is one of the most destructive influences in modern America. While it may have started out as movement for female equality. It has morphed into female supremacy movement. Unfortunately effeminate gays are willing to hitch their wagon to the femiNazi train to accomplish their own ends. That's one of the reasons I think masculine gay men should regard "femcentric" gay culture with suspicion.
Ocky Williams
@nick LOL…is it sad I know exactly which Simpson episode this is?
Cyrus Brooks
Aw come on bruh. Come out of the bushes. The subject of feminism was brought up so let's talk about it. It's not an accident that male academic achievement in this country has declined, men's participation in the labor force has declined, it's not an accident that wages for working class and middle-class men have been flat or declining since the 1970s. There are even mainstream media outlets that talk about "the end of men" or who ask the question "are men obsolete"? Those were thoughts there were once expressed by the most radical man hating feminists. Now its become mainstream to say. These things affect all men black, white, gay, or straight but they hurt black men the most. Feminism along with corporate greed are some the causes of these social and economic ills men face in the 21st century.
Ocky Williams
Let me really go in for a second. Homer Simpson was one of the first male / dad characters to come on the TV scene that began to morph the "TV Dad" into offish buffoons and the wife being the level headed one who holds the family together. I'm with you @cyrus-brooks so happy I found a "brother in arms" today LOL
Cyrus Brooks
Ocky Williams
@cyrus-brooks For the most part…I do agree.
We've gone from obviously gay men "coming out" to Feminism being the death of the masculine male. I would say this thread done jumped the shark. LOL
As SOON as I checked my email the other morning and saw the article in my inbox I said, "Oh shit."
But I think I'm the only person on Earth who did not know or suspect that Tre Melvin is gay despite being a loyal fan for the past year and a half. I damn near broke my phone while I was watching the video. And Tre's parents and sister have those green eyes.
quest for knowledge
Wow there has been so much said about this article. @Nick you are making this dude more famous by the minute man lol! I didn't know anything about this guy, until you posted something about his youtube video not too long ago. When I saw his videos of him dressing in drag in my mind there was no question about him being gay or bisexual. Did this dude have to make an announcement about it? In my opinion no, but at the same time if that's what he wanted to do good for him. If he feels so compelled to in a sense be true to his fans he should be able to do so. Whether you are feminine, masculine, or inbetween I don't think anyone should feel like they have to come out of the closet to everyone they know. I hate it when people in the gay community endorse that crap as if one must do that to truly show how comfortable they are with their sexuality. That's complete non-sense to me. I do believe that some of his viewers were probably surprised about his announcement believe it or not. Before I watched his videos I wasn't expecting his voice to actually be that deep lol so for some people they probably had no idea about him being gay/bisexual.
Zion MarQuiese Devereaux
Bisexual though…?!
But to keep it 100, when I tell dudes I am bisexual or have a girl I get more play than I do telling them I am gay.
Sad, but true.
I get more attention by saying I am a lying, deceitful dude than by being my regular, everyday self.
This gay "lifestyle" is funny to me.
The more I live the more funny it gets to me.
All this "coming out" is getting to be taxing.
Our sexuality (those who actually live this everyday) is being used as a "come up" and I for one don't appreciate it.
Isaac Colver
I had never heard of this guy before, and only saw him the time his "coming out" video went viral, and if people couldn't smell this dudes fruit then…
The Cheek Whisperer
bjincali .
A lot of gay people…or bisexual people…do not need you to come out of the closet. We already know. This is one of those cases. When I saw this dude's coming out video, I sighed. Game recognize game. But, other's who don't play this game, may not know. Apparently, even if you wear the uniform…regularly…I mean, all the time. Daily. As in right now. So, he felt the need to clear the air with those who just didn't know because they play a different game. Who's next? Tyler Perry? Sigh…
Umm… His eyes are real. His sister and father have the same eyes… And he's posted baby pics. That's all.
tashawnda price
i said the same thing – his eyes are obviously real and this whole article is full of hate and jealousy. real men aren't concerned with another man's sexuality unless his own is in question!
WOWW… I didn't even see this video!! But I see nothing wrong with what he is doing! If he is bisexual so fucking what! Who are you to judge anyones sexuality anyway?? Alot of male actors played "drag queen" roles.. did anyone question their sexuality?? His goal in life is to entertain and thats exactly what he does! Keep doing your thing Tre' let these haters suffer in your success….
I just happened to be searching for opinions on guys wearing contact lenses and happened to stumble upon the photo with Tre who clearly is'nt wearing contacts by the way his iris is relatively small versus contact lense iris space it's a very interesting article I feel like you were bashing the guy though not that I'm a big fan of his, I watched a few of his videos and got really bored cause some of the stuff is just , well it's nonsense and he seems arrogant, but with regards to how he looks especially the eyes, he is a drag queen, you obviously have to have groomed eyebrows and all, but what stands out to me is his curled eyelashes, those are just obvious cause I've definitely not come across a guy with curled eyelashes like that no matter how metrosexual, but his eye colour no, even if it were contacts I'd still say no you can't assume he is gay from that, Drake (well he is Drake then again) wears hazel contacts but his eyes for me still look manly and normal not over done it's not even like he makes them standout but he is straight I guess so why not also condemn him, and as for Prince by your Wikipedia definitions (and wikipedia is really not a reliable source of information) is a Drag Queen, call a spade a spade, yes we might pass him cause he is a legend and all thats just how it works I don't mind, but objectively he should be considered a drag, in this part of the world (Africa) Prince crosses that line of just bieng an effeminate male and we'd call him gay finish and klaar!, That said, also realise by your definition of a Drag it does not necessarily say that the man is gay although well it turns out that way sometimes,but it might as well just be any sexuality, and therefore we can not say all Drag Queens are gay but for the sake of the definition which doesnt clearly state the sexuality of a drag queen then he 'felt compelled to state the obvious and prevent us from assuming Eddie Murphy is gay' ,so his message I'd imagine was, entertainment aside I am gay or bisexual (that boy is confused though, probably gay) or otherwise we'd assume Eddie Murphy would be gay
Raymond Eugene Wright II
I wouldn't say his new years resolution video was overly dramatic. He was just in his feelings. It's not easy to fully accept ones homosexuality. And like he said he woke up days where he didn't even want to live. This article shouldn't have been negative towards him but more like a welcome to the club. Nick, how are we suppose to support our black gay men if we throw more punches then hands to help them up? Come on now. Yeah he dresses like a drag queen but who cares. He's doing his thing, just like you are doing your thing with this website. It wouldn't hurt to show more support often like you did with the Black Gay Athletes you talked about. No im not feminine, im just young and support people like tre Melvin. As far as it looks, it seems like he acts feminine but not is.
This was an interesting article, comments are redundant and totally stupid, but interesting nonetheless. FYI, I do know him, at least I did before my family moved, and the contacts comment? Lmfao he, his sister, and his dad who he looks exactly like all have those eyes dumb ass.
tashawnda price
gay straight undecided whatever. live your life but be honest about it. as far as this topic is concerned, this guy's eye color is real so stop with the jealousy and go out and get yourself some wigs and contacts and then you can come on out of the closet your damn self!
Louis Philippe
You're speaking like being gay is so easy. The thing is, even if every single person on this planet assumed he was gay before the video, it was still brave to come-out. It's one thing that people know who/what you are, it's another thing to tell them. It takes courage because first it's a sign that you've accepted yourself and you're comfortable enough to speak about it. And also even when people already know (or strongly assume) it's still risked because you're breaking the denial (you know, like i know but if we don't talk about it, it doesn't exist, like what my mother still do). Look that diver, Tom Daley, when i saw his coming out, i was like "finally", but i still thought it was brave. I agree with you, stereotypes exist, "looking gay" is a thing, and yes Tre definitely "looks" gay. But his coming out isn't less brave. I myself am a very feminine guy (maybe the biggest queen ever lol), i'm very comfortable, but it's still hard to say "yes i'm gay" even to my siblings. I know people know, but yet it's still hard to come out. Some people think i don't have to, everybody already knows, but i think i have to, because it's a big step to actually say "i'm gay". SO yes Tre is a big drag queen who constantly shades black women (and i don't like it) but, he was still very brave.
PS: je ne sais pas si j'ai réussi à me faire comprendre, et pardon pour les fautes, je ne connais pas le "proper english", je suis francophone à la base donc…
i know you have the right of freedom of speech but you're just being plain stupid so first of all there are 2 different knids of entertainment:t.v and sex also you would have to call tyler perry gay and there is no such thing as he looks gay because while you're calling someone gay they can be getting that pussy out and while you're calling someone straight they can be begging for a dick up the behind or a guy underneath them so please stop using sterotypes and by facts and I'm not sure if this was for a laugh but it as heck wasn't in my case there are so many men who play straight but are going to some man's house for they dick while you think they want some pussy so stop judging him because you should praise him for having to come out and you are hating because it takes more than some 5 minutes to do some damn research
I just want to say that the last part, the Matthew McConaughey speech from "A Time to Kill" that you did in your own way had me laughing really hard.
Whoever wrote this damn magazine or whatever the f its called because i dont read these online magazines, but when your making fun of Tre Marvin, then i notice. First on the fucking list, A DRAG QUEEN IS A MAN THAT DRESSES UP AS A WOMAN FOR THEIR OWN ENTERTAINMENT. Now, can you spot the difference?Well, Tre Marvin ENTERTAINS THE PEOPLE WATCHING THE VIDEO!NOT HIMSELF (If i knew i could curse on this i would be cussing all over the place with the rage i have) SECOND ON YHE LIST colored contacts make him gay?ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?Your gay right nick?(no effense to some homosexuals) i dont like that gay people treat bisexual people like they are gay, and are passionate that they are gay and some evern try to make them gay.Not all gays do this, but since you nick wrote this entire fucking passage, i already know you are one of those people.And i know this because im bisexual. And i was just like tre i hated myself so much i just wanted to die and thought i was still here and i prayed to god to change me.But then i watched his new years resolution video, and his other video how to love yourself first, that really inspired me.I didnt hate myself anymore and i felt very self confident of in myself.And Tre Marvin admit he is bisexual, you have to respect that and this goes to everyone who makes conclusions that he is gay.
Kaylah Melvin
If you're going to post an article on someone have your facts straight. This is so ignorant lmao not even entertaining. My brother and I both have naturally light eyes. You're a dumb ass if you can't tell the difference. Both of our parents have them. Give props when due instead of posting ignorant shit about others.. You need to check yourself before throwing shade on others.
ummmm….. His eyes are naturally that color. He's posted pics on his IG of when he was little and his eyes are the same color. He is NOT a Drag Queen. Drag Queens go through a process for drag. They tuck, shave, and do lots of other things to resemble a woman. Tre only puts on a wig and eye shadow. (Sometimes lip gloss. He is not GAY he is in fact Bisexual. Don't forget it actually exists in the world hun 😉 Plus Tre Melvin has always acted FABULOUS. He just expresses it even more now that he's out.
Fuck you
Okay, you need to sit down✋🏽 do you realize how hypocritical you sound right now ? 😂 you obviously came out and then you want to hate and say it's not necessary for "effeminate" guys to come out. You need to stop judging people and get a f*cking life. And how do you know he wears contacts? Did you do your "research" on him or something. It's people like you who need to just give up. You're a f*cking grown ass man talking about a 21 year old. I'm not saying that you're jealous, but you need to take it down a notch because you're doing a little bit too much 😏 you probably spent hours on your laptop writing this pointless article to throw shade at Tré, and for what ? Just to get another big headline? Lmao give up 😂
Gee Gill
Totally agree, like wtf is this guy on? Just because he dresses up as a woman doesn't make obviously bisexual or gay, and it also doesn't make him a cross dresser or transvestite or drag queen?? At the end of the day he is only wearing women's clothes to create sketches and characters so whatever this guy is saying is so hypocritical and full of bull. I mean considering Nick or whoever this guy is said "Exquisite eyes and d*ck sucking lips" would kinda tell me that Nick obviously has the hots for Tre and may or may not be gay, but I'm not gonna just f*cking assume that.
i think that you need to calm down because like you said about tyler perry he dresses up s a girl (Madea) but nobody calls him a drag queen but when tre melvin does it people like omg he is totally gay and that is not true.
Constance Marbury
Yes, I agree with you 100% I think the young man is very talented. And whoever that is trying to put him down it's a hater simple as that.
aye nick i want you to read this and lick my earsack. i aint gay but you[fat faggot earsack licker coldhearted nigglet]made me mad with this.do you know brave you have to be to do that.matter of fact im leaving the site
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