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Willkommen, bienvenue, welcome, welkomEdit
Welcome to the Vim tips wiki! We hope you can make continuing contributions of articles and/or discussion and other improvements.
If you are new to Wikia or wikis in general, be sure to visit the "Community portal" for an outline of some of the main parts of the site and a link to pages that tell you how to edit.
Do keep an eye on the "recent changes" page, where all edits and their authors (anonymous or signed-in) are listed. Bookmark it, maybe. (And help delete spam - unpleasant but a fact of life.)
If you want to get involved, check out Project:Policy and if you like, join the mailing list.
Template:Removed Edit
For the future, if you ever want to fix something like you did for VimTip470 (in this diff), there is an extra parameter that I added at some stage. For example, VimTip5 contains this wikitext:
{{Removed|5|info=Tip 5 has been merged to [[VimTip1]]|prev=4|next=6}}
So, you could insert the 'info=...' with a redirect, if you wanted. Or, just do the redirect which is almost certainly what I would do for any newly removed tip. I'm just mentioning the 'info=...' parameter FYI. JohnBeckett 23:24, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
New tips catchupEdit
With a reasonably small amount of effort we could get up to date with the new tips. April and May are already finished, so a few decisions on Jan/Feb/Mar will do the job. When you have some time, could you provide input at 201001? Then I'll have a go at the next month, and in a week or two we should catch up. Thanks. JohnBeckett 10:17, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
Help request for misc. Vim featuresEdit
I'm really glad to see the documentation on vi, but it seems painfully hard to find answers to a few questions I had on vi
- Regarding folding, how can I tag lines so that I know where the folds are located in a document. If I create a whole bunch of folds, I'd like to maybe see some prefix character in the sidebar showing where those folds are. I recall doing this once, so I'm pretty sure it's possible
- Working with multiple files in vi has been a bit difficult. I think I can use :bn and :bp to go between them right? Is it possible to see all the files that I've opened with vi?
- Macros sometimes exhibit peculiar behavior. I record a macro, but then when I repeat it, if it's a sufficiently complex macro, it does something totally unexpected at times. I think the last time I ran into this, I was trying to search for text that had a quote in it, so maybe when the macro recorded what I was typing, it interpreted the quote as referring to a buffer instead of being part of the string I was searching?
- I really want to make full use of vi. Is there some page with some neat tricks you can do in vi that will save you time and typing?
sorry...i don't think that was the right place to put the comment. Please forward my questions above to the right person/location? Thanks, I greatly appreciate it!
Normally, you're right, and you should direct your questions elsewhere. See Vim_Tips_Wiki:Community_Portal#Asking_questions for some suggestions. I highly recommend the vim_use mailing list mentioned on that page.
However, your particular questions are not too hard to answer, at least to some extent.
- It sounds like you want to turn on the fold column. Just set it to some number, like :set foldcolumn=4. See :help 'foldcolumn'.
- See Buffers for a buffer switching introduction. Also see the links to further tips at the end of that page. For your specific question, the :ls command does what you ask. Also, did you know Vim can open multiple buffers at the same time in split windows, or even tab pages?
- I'm not sure what you mean. Macros do exactly what you told them, and then terminate on an error. I'd suggest going to vim_use for this one, and be sure to give a specific problem to solve, and not a generic "does something unexpected". Sometimes user mappings can interfere with macros. You can see if these are your problem by running Vim without your user configuration: vim -N -u NONE -i NONE
- I'd suggest the tips in Category:Getting started, and also browsing the :help files. One thing in particular that has saved me a lot of time, is Vim's "text object" feature: :help text-objects. I also learned a lot about Vim from following discussions on vim_use, and from hitting the "Random page" link in the sidebar on this wiki every day.
Some of these are pretty basic questions...I'd again suggest taking a look at our tips for new users.
Also please note...you're using Vim, not vi. There is a difference and you'll get better responses on places like the vim_use mailing list and (especially) #vim on freenode if you use the proper name.
By the way...it would be a good idea to create a username on the wiki, so you can sign your comments with ~~~~, as I have done below.
--Fritzophrenic 17:34, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
'splitvertical' patch discussionEdit
Ref: http://vim.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Kartik_Agaram&diff=prev&oldid=28528 Thanks Fritzophrenic; I've posted a link on the mailing list, so rather than post again with a new url I'll leave that stuff there for now. In a few days maybe I'll put a pointer to the talk page and move the discussion there. Kartik Agaram 18:55, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
delete some spam pages. Edit
Hi could you please delete the pages Battery Charger, Panasonic Battery and Have a kind of happiness call waiting because they contain obvious spam. Chrisbra 11:59, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, and thanks for reverting the vandalism by the anonymous user. I've deleted the pages and permanently blocked the spam account, and temporarily blocked the IP of the vandal. --Fritzophrenic 15:30, December 9, 2010 (UTC)
Not much going on?Edit
Hi there! I just decided to sign up and I wanted to introduce myself. I have been a long time lurker on Vim Tips. Mostly, well, I use the tips. But recently I have been getting more and more into the Vim community and I noticed that this wiki isn't seeing a lot of action. I think the community is still going strong but I fear that the Vim Tips isn't getting the support it deserves. I wonder if there is anything I can do to help specifically? Thanks! Trcollinson 22:58, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
You're right, it has been a little slow recently. I think a lot of people are turned off by Wikia's new format. Our most active editor and administrator, JohnBeckett, has been missing in action for a few months now (still fuming over the way wikia handled the new look rollout, I understand) so I've been keeping shop here since with help from a few other contributors who have flagged spam, corrected typos, and the like. And of course, added tips.
A few things need doing. First of all, there are still a bunch of tips that got imported and never really cleaned up satisfactorily. You can find these in Category:Review. Secondly, we have flagged many tips with a {{todo}} flag, you can find these in Category:Todo. Most of these tips have a note at the beginning of the Comments section saying what needs to be done. Finally, we need to catch up on getting our newly added "proposed new tips" decided on and hopefully John can come back and use his bot to assign tip IDs. See Vim_Tips_Wiki:New_tips. If it gets to be a few months later I may start doing it manually.
I'm not sure that there is much we can do to drum up support in the community other than continue to improve the resource, but I'm glad you want to help.
Hope to see you around!
--Fritzophrenic 04:46, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
I can see why JohnBeckett would be upset. A lot of the other wikia wiki's I use have been having a similar problem with the switch. But such is life I guess.
I am looking over these lists and wow! There is a ton of content there. I see a lot of it needs to be merged and rewritten. But a lot of the todo's (and honestly the reviews as well) have a note that they need to be merged but it doesn't seem like a lot of merging is happening. Is that because of time requirements on you and such or is the merging process just hard? I'll take a look at those and start helping. Thanks for the info!
Trcollinson 22:19, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, there's a lot to do and not very many people doing it. Obviously the most fun thing is submitting new material but a lot of the old material still needs some attention and it doesn't often get it.
If you're working on merging tips (a worthy endeavor) take a quick glance at our merge guidelines first. Remember that you don't necessarily need to spend a lot of time merging in useless content. Sometimes a "merge" is just providing a redirect to a better solution. Most of the time though, there should be something useful to include in the merge.
Good luck!
--Fritzophrenic 03:13, January 3, 2011 (UTC)
Checking inEdit
Howdy! I just wanted to check in and see how things are. I noticed that the theme changed. Is this the way the theme was originally? I was also curious as to whether you know if JohnBeckett may ever come back? Is he reachable? If not maybe in the future it would be advantageous to create a new bot to handle some of the activies JohnBot was handling. I have developed a number of wikibots in the past and would be glad to help. If I can do anything let me know. As always, if you have any suggestions on my editing I always appreciate it. Thanks! Trcollinson 21:38, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
Hello again! I'll shoot John an email in the next day or two, he's usually pretty responsive to that. I am hoping to get him to resume some of his JohnBot activities (like applying templates to newly created tips, for example). As for the theme, this is still the "new wikia look." The change you noticed was me accepting the new theme and deciding to see what it had to offer. I finally got around to uploading an image of the Vim logo for the "wordmark" for the wiki, and decided the site ought to be a matching color. I just grabbed one of the pre-made color schemes and didn't try anything fancy. If people complain it can be changed back. If you have suggestions I'm pretty open as well. Details on the "new look" can be found here:
--Fritzophrenic 03:24, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
I think it looks fine with me. Although I think the site look and feel can have a lot of importance for a project, I think Vim Tips has a lot bigger "fish to fry" so to speak moving forward, at least at the moment. I would stick with the green though!
As for John, I was just floating around the site on my phone (where it's hard to edit things, but easy to read), and I noticed that in his talk page there was a lot more discussion a few months ago then there is now. I would love to see things ramp up again and I think it can happen (maybe I am just super optimistic by nature, but what the hay). So I hope we comes back :) he seemed to be a big help just as you are and I hope maybe I will be as well someday. I think what you, he and others have done for the community is a great thing. So I guess this is my simple way of saying thanks!
Trcollinson 05:56, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
Greetings. I hate the idea of slaving for Wikia who have us in a very ugly position. However, that is the position we are in, and the community should have a Vim Tips wiki, so I suppose we should get on with it. I am busy in other places but will be able to resume JohnBot stuff in a few days. I have not yet looked over what's been happening much, but it appears Trcollinson is exactly what we need to get back on track. Thanks! I must warn everyone that I am rather more grumpy and impatient than in the past. I have not yet looked at the "new tips" situation, but I am inclined to deal with them in an accelerated manner without some of the dithering and being nice to everyone that we have done in the past. Yes, being nice is good and it is the only way to build collaboration. But if we have evidence that collaboration is not forthcoming (for example, if somone has dumped a 60%-finished tip here and disappeared), we need to be realistic. I'm not going to start a delete rampage, but I'll be looking for practical ideas of how to catch up (which will probably involve a fair bit of deleting). I have just dropped in to provide this update. See you all in due course. JohnBeckett 10:23, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
Welcome back Mr. Beckett :) glad to finally can the chance to see you. I am not fully aware of the history of wikia or what they have done. However, one of my suggestions would be, why don't we just move the whole Vim Tips elsewhere? I guess I am just trying to understand the background a bit better.
As for continuing the work, let me know where you would like help, and I will. I can do just about anything and my time will be freeing up here more shortly. I believe in the Vim tips project as I have been using it for so many years and I would love to see it keep going. However, I think your point about accelerating the work here is actually a very good thing. I have worked on a lot of wiki's and the thing that I have noticed which gets new editors moving is seeing other editors moving as well. The "if you build it, they will come" methodology. So anyway, I will try to keep the editing up at an even pace, and hope we can make things better in the next few months!
Thanks, Trcollinson 06:13, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
- It's a bit too tedious to explain, but in brief Wikia have changed the skin dramatically while showing an arrogant disregard for the different wiki communities. The problem is that, due to the hard work of those disregarded communities, Wikia now has a good Google ranking. If we were to copy this wiki elsewhere, it would be pretty well impossible to outrank vim.wikia.com. People searching for stuff would go to Wikia and would never realise that the official wiki was elsewhere. There is not much interest in vim.wikia.com (apart from people using Google to find a quick solution to some problem of the moment), and there would be essentially no interest in a clone. The main problem with the skin is the absurd focus on trivia (the top and side bars), with the content squeezed in as an after thought.
- I'll take a week or two to work out what has been happening here (looks like Fritzophrenic has done a great job with the logo and menus at the top), and may have some suggestions for how people can help in due course. Probably the best thing would be to sort out the new tips. JohnBeckett 09:09, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I understand WOW's wiki did in fact move, with limited success. While they have a big community outside the wiki where they were able to spread the word that the wiki had moved, there is still a lot of activity on the wiki here.
- John, one thing i did while you were gone, is changed the wording of the "Proposed tip" template to read "Newly created tip" or something like that, since they tend to stick around in "proposed" state longer than we originally intended.
- --Fritzophrenic 16:52, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
- I see the point there now, no doubt. I think my current personal thinking to jump in both feet first and try to update and clean up as much of the content as I can is still the best move I can make. There is a ton of content which still needs to be cleaned up from the original move, merged, or just plain removed, so I will continue on with that and see where it gets me.
- I also think some people have forgotten that Vim Tips is here. I think you're right John that people have the most interest in Vim Tips when they need an answer to an immediate problem. But really that is the same situation many people have with Wikipedia. I think the community as a whole will support the effort. I have been tweeting about it, and posting on Facebook about it and I think I need to do it somemore. Even mentioning it in the #vim channel on freenode. I am hoping it will help :) I think it will in time. It's a big ship, and it moves slowly, but with good momentum it will keep going. At any rate, I am glad to see you back around :)
- Trcollinson 21:05, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
I have prepared the new tips for discussion, see New tips. We need to somehow decide what to do with all that stuff. As User:JohnBot I have also done some tweaking of a few things, see Special:Contributions/JohnBot. When looking at Recent changes, you can click 'Show bots' to see recent activity. JohnBeckett 07:26, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
Main Page Issue? Edit
Hey there, I am having trouble with the front page of the wiki. Every time I go to it it redirects me to Resize which is a page that does not exist. I checked the source for the page, but it had nothing unusual in it. Are you having this problem? Do you see why I might be redirected like I am seeing?
Trcollinson 23:54, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
- I just clicked the Vim logo at the top left of this page and was taken directly to the main page with no problem. The correct URL is http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Vim_Tips_Wiki (if a logged-in user accesses http://vim.wikia.com they end up at some customised Special:WikiActivity page which I never look at). JohnBeckett 03:05, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
- Once or twice sometime earlier this month, I did get redirected to some other page. I do not remember which page it was, but it stopped doing that after only a couple times. Now it redirects me to WikiActivity as John says. I looked through the preferences and found a "Disable my redirect to Wiki Activity" option under "Misc" but did not see anything about redirecting to last edited page or anything like that (which is what I was looking for). I am trying out this option now, because like John I rarely look at that page. I have an RSS feed set up so I see all the changes anyway. –Fritzophrenic 15:27, January 27, 2011 (UTC)
Help, Community portal and script followed Edit
Thanks for your welcome note. Actually, I was wondering about some tips for this wiki. I didn't find any help, have I missed it?? Sorry if it is hidden somewhere and I should have looked better... Also, there are some links at the top of each page, one being "Community portal", but this page has never been created :-S
So, my first question before those arised was about the followed pages. I am following some Vim Tips, but also some pages about the scripts of vim.org. The latter do not appear in my list of followed pages... Is this a bug? If not, how can I have the complete list of my followed pages?
Thanks in advance for all.
--XonqNopp (T|C) 10:54, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
- I have not yet figured out how to show scripts in my "followed pages", however every followed page is also added to your "watchlist" which you can view: Special:Watchlist. You can even add this to that floating toolbar at the bottom. I have added it to mine but I'm still not sure whether I like it or not. Just type "Watchlist" in the dialog and click it with the mouse in the popup. Once on the watchlist page, there are also links to edit or view it there. I have my preferences set up to email me if something on my watchlist is updated, I think this also works for Script: pages but am not really sure. John?
- Thanks for the hint about community portal being broken. Somehow the automated thing which used to work stopped working. I have updated the navigation bar to point to the correct page and created a redirect with the alternate capitalization just in case.
- Additional help is in Category:Help. Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any more questions.
- –Fritzophrenic 16:41, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
- In theory there should be no difference in following or watching a normal tip or a script: if your preferences include an email address and the default to send you an email alert on changes to watched pages, you should get an email for each change to a script page. I imagine the public "followed pages" has some code to only list pages in the main namespace (i.e. tips). For example, you might have a reason to watch some templates (like Template:Help) and your interest would be due to a particular requirement that is unlikely to apply to general users. The "followed pages" stuff is an attempt to generate interest in the articles on a wiki, so while I don't recall seeing any documentation about it, it would make sense for only main namespace pages to be listed in "followed pages". The Special:Watchlist page should show all watched/followed pages (the default view on that page will only show recent changes to watched pages; click "View and edit watchlist" or "Edit raw watchlist" to see the actual list). JohnBeckett 09:19, January 30, 2011 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks for the reply. As I did not find any link to my watchlist, I assumed it was here called the followed pages and that is why I was wondering where were the scripts followed. So with the watchlist I understand better. But I think there should be a link to the watchlist in the menu of the top right corner, since it may be as useful as the list of the followed pages... Thanks for all. --XonqNopp (T|C) 13:54, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
- There is some info on following/watchlists that I wrote when the "following" feature was introduced, see Community portal. The core facts are correct, but the buttons have all moved around (it's still worth reading). There is a link (Special:Watchlist) on the portal page. If you wanted fast access to the standard watchlist you could use a browser bookmark for that page. Wikia have just tweaked "My Tools" in the stupid floating bar at the bottom of each page, and there is a "Customize" link that allows you to fiddle with things, and I believe you can add Watchlist to the My Tools menu. There is some info at Help:MyTools (possibly out of date). JohnBeckett 09:38, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! --XonqNopp (T|C) 09:59, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
New tips done to 201005 Edit
Would you please check my recent changes relating to New tips. I think we are ready to wrap up 2010 02+03+04+05. If you agree (or don't disagree!) I will process all those together and allocate new tip ids (for those you haven't done; I know the last tip is VimTip1650). JohnBeckett 09:37, April 16, 2011 (UTC)
Signatures Edit
Re your signature correction at Script:974, just in case you are not aware, four tildes gives name+date, three gives name, five gives date. So, you accidentally added an extra tilde to the normal four. I'll use all three below:
- Three tildes JohnBeckett
- Five tildes 02:20, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
- Four tildes JohnBeckett 02:20, July 8, 2011 (UTC)
Citing external sourcesEdit
Hi, first of all, thank you for the welcome message. Yes, it's automated, but this is in some ways even better, and it's always some clock tick dedicated to me. :)
Now, I'd want a suggestion for editing my first (maybe too enthusiastic...) contribution, here: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Show_tab_number_in_your_tab_line.
You're definitely right in your reply, and a little more search brought me to the correct solution. I'd want to put it here, in case someone, like me before, was looking for it.
The fact is, that solution is in a forum thread on an external web site, and I obviously want to cite the source. My question is: is it correct / well-mannered to put here an external link? Maybe that question is trivial, but I'm a wiki-newbie and I'd want to be a good boy. :)
--BobFavazzi 20:06, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
- It's sometimes a tough call. The only "policy" we have on this that I know of, is our general guidelines, which state that a tip should be self contained. So avoid "see siteXYZ for a solution to this problem", instead put the relevant script in the tip text. Alternatively, you could add a link in the "See also" section, if the site is relevant. The problem here is to avoid looking like you're just promoting a personal blog or something.
- In terms of citing a source in the tip text, if this external web forum is well-known (stackoverflow, etc.), especially if it is well-known in the Vim community (the vim_use mailing list, etc.) then often a very simple reference is OK (but not required). Keep in mind that on this wiki at least, we encourage wholesale editing of scripts within a tip without regard to keeping it in line with the original source, so the final result may differ significantly from the original. So you shouldn't say "this solution from siteXYZ", you should say "this solution inspired by a discussion on siteXYZ" or similar. An example of this can be found in our File no longer available - mark buffer modified tip which started as a direct copy from the linked vim_use thread.
- The main thing to avoid is links to blog posts, etc. which could be construed as trying to promote the blog. These will usually get removed. Exceptions can be made for well-known sites made by prominent members of the Vim community like Bram, Dr. Chip, Tony M., and others, but I can not think of any examples of this in the text itself. Mostly these are listed in a "see also" as on our Building Vim tip. But again, since scripts are pretty much edited without a thought to the original, unless you're presenting alternatives to a well-known solution (like in a :help file), it's probably best not to attribute it directly to the external site.
- To sum up: if it's a prominent site, and you want to give credit, go ahead. If you don't feel like it, that's probably OK too.
- John may have some additional input on this. John?
- And by the way, don't worry about being "too enthusiastic" about an update. First, if it's a short snippet or small update like you left, someone will probably notice fairly quickly. There's little enough activity that John, I, and a few others usually notice all changes. Additionally, if it's in the comments section like your update, the comments section is specifically intended to provide a place for "drive-by edits" which may or may not work perfectly as-is.
- --Fritzophrenic 20:58, October 11, 2011 (UTC)
- The situation is awkward because while it is not ethical to just take a tip from elsewhere and dump it here without attribution, the alternative of methodically crediting everyone who contributed to an idea is impossible and ugly. It's quite likely that a random tip about Vim found on the Internet originated somewhere else (for example, a Vim mailing list or from a tip here), although often the original advice was improved by whoever posted it. There are plenty of exceptions where people do post original material, but they are uncommon.
- Bob, please post a brief statement of the problem here (what problem would the solution solve?). One of us may have a suggestion on what might be added to the tip without needing an external site. We do not have to cover every piece of information. JohnBeckett 07:05, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Hi, and thank you all again for your kindess. My goal was to simple display the tab number on the tab line, to allow fast tab navigation with {count}gt.
- Maybe it's trivial, but as a semi-newbie, I had a hard way in finding an example of how to achieve this in Vim. I finally found a good .vimrc recipe in the last post of this thread, and I'd want to make life easier for others.
- It would be great if there was a way to simple improve my "tip" code, but at the moment, this is out of my sight. :)
- --BobFavazzi 13:40, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, that's just a mirror of the vim_use mailing list. Here's the original: http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use/browse_thread/thread/de954baf798fc92c . I'd just cite it as "inspired by a vim_use thread about setting the tabline" or similar. But really your current suggestion is so different from what appears in the thread, I don't believe it needs citing, unless you modify it to be much more similar. I note that in Tony's suggested solution, the tabpagenr() function is used for getting the max/current tab number, but mostly the tab numbers are determined via a loop counter. This should work much better than the buffer number you were using. --Fritzophrenic 14:54, October 12, 2011 (UTC)
Code background Edit
Setting the background color for stuff like
:helpgrep example or press
n for "search next" is good. But MediaWiki:Wikia.css sets background-color 00FF63, while MediaWiki:Common.css is 00C84E, and both of those are a very prominent green on my system. How does Searching look on your browser? Would something more subtle be a better default? Here is EEE8AA and here is FAF0E6, for example. JohnBeckett (talk) 11:39, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
- I gave up because even clearing my browser cache I was unable to get the background colors to apply to anything except for User:Fritzophrenic/Sandbox. The MediaWiki:Common.css did not apply at all, even to my sandbox, as I found when I tried expanding the text to force the nowrap to come into play. I thought I just failed to affect any of the main pages so gave up in frustration. Yes, I was going for a much more subtle color, but I wanted to use a lighter shade of the dark green background. The one in MediaWiki:Common.css is as light as it goes, and I didn't start experimenting with other green colors (I want green to match the theme) because like I said I couldn't get it to load anyway. If you find a color you like please go ahead and use it. --Fritzophrenic (talk) 15:04, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
- P.S. FAF0E6 is a little too light for me...on my current monitor it's barely distinguishable from the background. Maybe something like C1E7CB, based on the background of the page header, B2D5BB. I just grab the color from "inspect element" in Opera or Chrome and use http://drpeterjones.com/colorcalc/ to lighten the value.
Why just tips? Edit
I saw you deleted my easytags page. I find it very confusing to have some stuff on vim.org and some stuff here. A lot of wiki pages link back to vim.org using id-links to the scripts. In generally I find it easier to memorize the name of a plugin rather than it's id. Vim.org feels unmaintained and dated. Wouldn't it be nicer to make this wiki the main vim.org and only link to current vim.org for the plugin-downloads? Maybe even that could be handled using mediawiki in some way.
- Yes, it is easier to memorize a plugin name than an ID. But you can search vim.org for a plugin name just like you can search here. We link to vim.org with the script template which takes an ID as a convenience, to avoid copy-pasting entire URLs. The pages like Script:3114 which link back to vim.org automatically by tip ID were created some time ago in response to a request by script authors to allow meaningful feedback on their scripts. Authors were getting frustrated by negative ratings with no explanation, and users did not like that there was no sort of review feature. Rather than opening vim.org up to spam, Bram added a link to the wiki in a special Script namespace. So, these pages are not meant to be the front page of a script. They are only meant to provide feedback to script authors. The Vim community as a whole has no interest in making this wiki a replacement for vim.org, so for now vim.org is the primary source. Trying to maintain two pages would just get confusing, and we would need buy-in from authors to keep the wiki up to date. There is no way we can make a page for each of the 1000s of scripts on vim.org and keep it up-to-date with the few regular contributors here.
- Sure - the pages would have to be converted into this wiki like the tips were and plugin pages updated by their writers here. As most of us here probably are programmers that should be doable. I think it would make editing this wiki a lot more rewarding and user friendly. Script authors could than just use wiki links to pathogen and help pages in their plugins description - once here in the wiki: maybe that would even encourage them to become regular contributers. Vimdicitve (talk) 22:04, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
- One thing I didn't mention above is that as far as I know, wikia is not available in China due to The Great Firewall, whereas vim.org is available. There are quite a few Chinese Vim users who would then be virtually unable to find up-to-date script information. Granted, the same can now be said about the tips on the current wiki. --Fritzophrenic (talk) 14:43, October 5, 2012 (UTC)
- The other plugin pages you created will probably be deleted in the next day or two. They hadn't showed up in my RSS feed yet when I saw the easytags page. I think we can probably keep (but rename) a couple like plugin-manager to discuss the usual method of installing Vim plugins, why this is hard, and what plugins are available to make it easier.
As a personal preference I also think the default mediawiki layout - that I have now set in my preferences - is a lot more intuitive and easier to navigate especially if you're new here like me. Best regards. Vimdicitve (talk) 20:18, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm glad to hear you found that in your preferences. Unfortunately there's not much we can do to change the default layout. Wikia (for-profit as they are) limits us quite a bit in that regard.
- --Fritzophrenic (talk) 21:07, October 4, 2012 (UTC)
By the way, I went ahead and got rid of the plugin pages in favor of the Script namespace pages. While you make a good point about the usability of a wiki over the static vim.org page, it's not really something we can do without buy-in from script authors. Many of them are already using github or sourceforge for their main project page anyway. If you want to try getting the needed buy-in, you can hit up the vim_dev and/or vim_use mailing lists: Vim_Tips_Wiki:Community Portal#Asking questions. --Fritzophrenic (talk) 03:52, October 9, 2012 (UTC)
Undo and Redo Edit
Thanks for removing the obsolete comment at Undo and Redo which did look out of place. I wondered why I started musing about CTRL/Ctrl and R/r so looked at the history. It was in response to edits by three different IPs a few hours before (two of them thought that "Ctrl-R" was incorrect). I still can't make up my mind whether tips should prefer "Ctrl-R" or "Ctrl-r", and you know I like consistency. That's pretty trivial so I won't let it worry me. BTW it will be another few weeks before I get back to work here, but I will return. JohnBeckett (talk) 03:29, November 10, 2012 (UTC)
Wikia contacted re spam Edit
FYI (to save you doing it, although the more the merrier), I used Special:Contact/general to report the spambot activity. JohnBeckett (talk) 07:56, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks. I meant to do it but didn't have the time to bother with more than a block/delete. --Fritzophrenic (talk) 15:46, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
The response from Wikia was disappointing, essentially saying "good job, keep it up". It seems they are relying on volunteers (who have been assigned extra privileges) to do the work. The message is to contact VSTF who will clean up (typically within an hour, with blocks and cleanup done behind-the-scenes so they are not seen in Recent Changes). I'm not bothering to block IPs (I would block a user) as it appears the IPs are not re-used, but if anyone wants to vent by blocking them that's fine. I don't know if we have the rights to block a range of IPs (I believe you just enter a CIDR range in the block window, but I haven't tried it and haven't looked to see how useful it would be). Here is the info in case we want to try it:
- w:c:help:Help:SpamTaskForce overview and links
- w:c:vstf:Report:Users and IPs needing checked report IPs here
JohnBeckett (talk) 03:18, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
I reported the IP that I blocked (at the "report IPs here" link above), and left a request here. I have not bothered to delete the Russian spam as it will be interesting to see how it is dealt with. However, if it's still there after several hours, I might delete it (or you're welcome to do so if you like). JohnBeckett (talk) 07:52, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm a member of the VSTF, a group of Wikia volunteers assigned extra tools to combat spam. As for your first point, you can block CIDR ranges from Special:Block just fine, exactly as you would do with a single IP or user. You might also consider contacting Staff to enable the AbuseFilter extension, which will allow you to set up a wide variety of local filters.
- As for our blocks not showing up in the RC, that's because they are global blocks to prevent the IP from being abused elsewhere on Wikia's network. TK-999 (talk) 11:37, December 9, 2012 (UTC)
- The AbuseFilter extension looks pretty powerful, but I'm not clear at all what it does. Could it be used, for example, to require that any page creations without certain keywords require the user to be logged in? I'd like to continue allowing anonymous edits as much as possible. Disallowing edits that remove the entire document text and replace it with something else unless the user is logged in would also be nice. I don't really have time to learn a complicated tool though, so if it takes too much effort to configure, and the current sustained spam rate continues, I'm more inclined to do something drastic like require a login to create any new page. John, Christian, at what point do you think this would be warranted? Or is this never an option? Obviously we'd need to ask the community, or at least Bram, before taking final action. I'm still hoping this dies down soon. --Fritzophrenic (talk) 16:19, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, all three are. As for your limited time, once Staff enabled it for you, we can configure the filters if you wish.TK-999 (talk) 17:37, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
- I asked Wikia for the AbuseFilter and for it to be configured to block the current attack. That has been done (staff enabled it, and VSTF volunteer Randomtime configured it). Thanks TK-999 and Randomtime. In due course I'll look at the docs and work out how to control the filter. Let's worry about whether to attempt more drastic protection if it becomes necessary in the future (that is, if I/we can't configure the filter to do what is needed in the future). Wikia want IPs to be able to create pages, and that is an admirable aim, and not easily overturned. Occasional idiots who replace a page are not really a problem, but it is pointless battling something like the recent spambot without some tools, which we now have. In case anyone is wondering, I did not bother blocking a few IPs that I saw because there is no benefit (I think only one recent IP has edited more than once, and I blocked that one). JohnBeckett (talk) 21:39, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, all three are. As for your limited time, once Staff enabled it for you, we can configure the filters if you wish.TK-999 (talk) 17:37, December 10, 2012 (UTC)
Good result. There have been three hits (failed attempts to create spam pages) since the filter was enabled 36 hours ago. I configured the filter to "Hide details of this filter from public view" so the spammer cannot see what they need to do to evade it (I don't think it is likely they will even try since I think it's just someone playing with a spambot, but there is no point leaving the door open). JohnBeckett (talk) 01:22, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
- Special:AbuseFilter (visible to admins only). Is a celebration in order? The filter has rejected 500 spam pages in about 75 days. JohnBeckett (talk) 23:48, February 23, 2013 (UTC)
- This is huge cause for celebration! If I was seeing 6 spams every day hitting the wiki, with no tool like the AbuseFilter to combat it, I'd have long ago resorted to requiring a login for any new page. I certainly don't have time for that kind of cleanup every single day! Thanks, John, and everyone else involved! --Fritzophrenic (talk) 16:56, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
autocmd event for overriding colors Edit
Hi, regarding your change to the "Overriding Colors" page of mine, I found that the event group "BufWinEnter,Syntax" works in 100% of cases when the colorscheme gets reloaded, while "ColorScheme" does not work in some situation, like when you move to the next file in args with :n or back with :N .
- Strange, it works fine for me. Can you try it again, and use ":verbose hi Normal" for example to see where it was set? This sounds like something to debug, possibly on the mailing list if the solution is not obvious. --Fritzophrenic (talk) 15:00, March 25, 2016 (UTC)


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This release is dedicated to the memory of Adrian Ettlinger who passed away on 23 October 2013, who was a good Internet friend of the primary maintainer of Freecell Solver (= Shlomi Fish), and who contributed a great deal to Freecell Solver and to Freecell research and programming in general (among other major life achievements, and contributions to man kind). You can read an obituary of Mr. Ettlinger by Shlomi Fish as it was posted to the Freecell Solver Discussions mailing list, and also read an an interview that Fish conducted with him back in 2003.
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The distribution now contains the sources for the Split FCC (= Fully Connected Component) Solver which was an unsuccessful attempt to solve Windows Freecell deal No. 384,243 with two freecells. It may prove of general utility in the future, though.
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WASHINGTON — The Obama administration on Sunday confidently predicted congressional backing for limited military action in Syria on Sunday and disclosed fresh evidence the Assad government used sarin gas in a deadly attack.
Senior U.S. officials sought to lay out their case to divided lawmakers in a classified briefing as the countdown began to the biggest foreign policy vote since Congress authorized President George W. Bush to invade Iraq.
In a series of interviews on the Sunday news shows, Secretary of State John Kerry said the case for intervention in Syria's 2½-year civil war was strengthening each day and that he expected American lawmakers to recognize the need for action when the "credibility of the United States is on the line."
He said President Barack Obama has the authority to launch retaliatory strikes with or without Congress' approval, but Kerry stopped short of saying the president would do so if the House or Senate withholds support.
"The stakes are just really too high here," Kerry said. "We are not going to lose this vote."
Seeking to sharpen the argument for war, Kerry said the United States has received hair and blood samples from first responders indicating that Syria's government forces used sarin in its Aug. 21 attack in the Damascus suburbs.
It was the first piece of specific physiological evidence cited by the administration, which previously cited only an unnamed nerve agent in the killing of 1,429 civilians, including more than 400 children. The U.S. says such chemical weapons use compels an international response.
Washington has struggled to rally allies to its cause, however, with only France firmly on board among major military powers. Stalwart ally Britain cannot be counted on after Parliament rejected using force in a vote last week. That could be a harbinger of the difficult task ahead for the Obama administration as it seeks Congress' approval for cruise missile strikes and other limited measures once lawmakers return from summer break, which is scheduled to end Sept. 9.
A little more than a year ago, Obama declared that Assad's use of chemical weapons would be the "red line" in a conflict that he has steadfastly avoided. But Obama deferred any immediate action Saturday by announcing that he first would seek congressional authorization.
Senior administration officials were briefing members of Congress in private later Sunday. Further classified meetings would be held over the next three days, Kerry said. The Senate Foreign Relations Committee plans a Tuesday hearing.
Navy ships are on standby in the Mediterranean Sea ready to launch missiles.
Obama is likely to find strong support in the Democrat-controlled Senate but a tougher fight in the GOP-dominated House.
Despite the intense gridlock on Capitol Hill over debt reduction, health care, immigration and other issues, at least some senior lawmakers said the president should be able to cobble together a strong enough coalition of moderate and hawkish members of both parties to defeat anti-war Democrats and tea party-backed Republicans opposed to intervention.
"We cannot make this about the president versus the Congress. This isn't about Republicans versus Democrats. This has a very important worldwide reach," said Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. "At the end of the day, Congress will rise to the occasion," he said, but added that "it's going to take that healthy debate to get there."
GOP Rep. Peter King of New York, who criticized Obama for not proceeding immediately against Assad, predicted a tougher challenge. "I think it is going to be difficult," said King, citing the rising "isolationist" tendency among members of his party.
A leader of that faction, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, said he expected the Senate to "rubber-stamp" what Obama wants. "But I think the House will be a much closer vote," he said, saying the balance was "at least 50-50 whether the House will vote down involvement in the Syrian war."
Late Saturday, the White House sent Congress a draft resolution authorizing force against Syria to "deter, disrupt, prevent and degrade" the Assad regime's ability to use chemical weapons. It doesn't lay out a timeline for action or detail Obama's strategy.
Kerry reiterated Obama's oft-repeated promise not to send any American troops into Syrian territory, a reflection of the president's own aversion to getting too deeply involved in a conflict that has killed more than 100,000 people and drawn in terrorist organizations on both sides of the battlefield.
Polls also show significant opposition among Americans to involvement after a decade of war in the Muslim world, and several officials have cited the faulty intelligence about weapons of mass destruction that led up to the Iraq war as justification of the need for lengthy debate before U.S. military action.
Kerry, who voted to authorize Bush's 2003 Iraq invasion but then opposed the war in his unsuccessful presidential bid a year later, rejected any comparisons to those conflicts.
"This is not Iraq. This is not Afghanistan. There is nothing similar in what the president is contemplating," Kerry said. "There are others who are willing to fight, others who are engaged. And the issue here is not whether we will go and do it with them, it's whether we will support them adequately in their efforts to do it."
Asked repeatedly what Obama would do if Congress didn't give its consent, Kerry said, "The president has taken his decision."
"He is not trying to create an imperial presidency," Kerry said. "I believe that in the end, Congress will do what is right."
Administration officials said that until late Friday Obama appeared set on ordering a strike without first seeking Congress' approval. After a walk around the White House grounds with Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, the president told his aide he had changed his mind.
Complicating efforts in Congress is the demand for even stronger action from Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, the leading Republican hawks in the Senate.
McCain said he and Graham and others "will be wanting a strategy, a plan, rather than just we're going to launch some cruise missiles and that's it." McCain said he was invited to the White House by Obama to discuss Syria and planned to go there Monday.
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Things seem to be looking up these days at the Mouse House, with last week's Best Picture nomination for Disney/Pixar's "Toy Story 3" and this week's 60th anniversary release of "Alice in Wonderland" on Blu-ray DVD.
The films represent fine examples of both the new Disney/Pixar and the old Disney (even if "Alice" is one of the weaker animated classics, and its Blu-ray version seems meant to capitalize on Tim Burton's successful 2010 interpretation of Lewis Carroll's surreal trip down the rabbit hole).
Timing is everything, even when it's unintentional. Which is why we're getting an extra kick out of our two favorite viral videos of the past week, variously lampooning classic Disney of now and then: a princess flick featuring pop bad girl Ke$ha and a mock movie trailer reimagining "Up" as a 1960s live-action Disney comedy.
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The so-called "premake" of "Up" is great for games of spot-the-movie, thanks to almost seamlessly interspersed footage from multiple films ("The Red Balloon," "A Boy and his Dog" and "Benji" were among those we quickly picked out).
The faux trailer, with its pitch perfect narration ("You'll believe a house can fly in Walt Disney/Pixar's 'Up!'"), was created a YouTube user with the handle "whoiseyevan," whose previous "premake" mashups include one of "Raiders of the Lost Ark," re-envisioned as the kind of 1940s movie serial that inspired Steven Spielberg and George Lucas' creation.
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2020 Cross Country
Provided by Rosemount Area Athletic Association
Age Groups & Fees
A late registration fee of $20.00 has been assessed since August 1, 2020.
Grades 1 - 5 (2020-21 School Year)
Eligibility Rules
Males & Females in Grades 1 - 5 (2020-21 School Year) are eligible.
Key Dates
Registration Deadline
Jul 31, 2020
Activities occur from Monday, August 3, 2020 to Friday, September 18, 2020*All information subject to change.
Background Check
Concussion Certification
Positive Coaching Alliance
Refund Policy
Refunds will be granted only when there is a sound reason. A non-refundable processing fee of $5.00 will be applied to all refunds for in-house programs ($10.00 for traveling programs). No refunds will be granted after teams have been established.
Scholarship Policy
Scholarships are available for children whose family incomes are below a certain level. If your family qualifies for the Department of Health and Human Services Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program (welfare) or District 196 Free or Reduced Lunch Program you may qualify for a scholarship.
Background Check Policy
Rosemount Area Athletic Association Adult Volunteer Background Check Policy
Approved November 2015
In order to preserve the safety and well-being of youth participating in youth sport programs offered by Rosemount Area Athletic Association (RAAA), the Board of Directors hereby adopts the following policy applicable to all adult board members, program directors, program board members, coaches, assistant coaches, and officials.
1.General Information.
a. Initial Background Check.
Background checks are mandatory for all adult board members, program directors, program board members, coaches, assistant coaches, and officials (hereinafter referred to as a "Volunteer" and collectively referred to as "Volunteers"). All Volunteers are covered by the Volunteer Policy regardless of whether they receive compensation. Initially, all Volunteers will be required to undergo a national background check prior to the beginning of the sport, season or activity in which they intend to become involved. For adult officials contracted through outside vendors, RAAA will strive to work with the outside vendors to ensure that contracted officials meet the same requirements as the Volunteers.
b. Validity Period.
Volunteers who continue to participate will be required to have a background check conducted every three (3) calendar years. In addition, RAAA reserves the right to conduct random background checks of Volunteers at any time prior to or during the sport, season or activity in which the volunteer is involved.
c. New Criminal Charges.
If an approved Volunteer subsequently has any criminal charges brought against him/her during the Volunteer's term of service and such charges are listed in the disqualifications list (Section 3), the Volunteer shall immediately disclose the nature of the charges to the RAAA Board of Directors and the Volunteer may be disqualified until there is a resolution of the charges.
d. Informed Consent.
All Volunteers will be required to sign, either physically or electronically, an informed consent form allowing RAAA to order an individual criminal background check. Failure to complete the informed consent may disqualify the Volunteer from participation.
e. Background Check Fees.
RAAA pays for all fees associated with performing the background checks from the general fund.
2.Screening Process and Handling of Information.
a. Responsibilities.
• The RAAA Board of Directors will be responsible for selecting a reporting agency or method to conduct the background checks.
• The Registrar/Finance Manager will administer the process of the background checks.
• The Program Directors and/or Board Liaisons are responsible for ensuring compliance with this Policy within their respective programs.
• The RAAA Administrative Committee will be responsible for hearing and deciding any Volunteer Appeals, and will make the final determination on the matter.
b. Background Check Review.
The Registrar/Finance Manager reviews each released background check to determine if the results include any of the listed disqualifications.
c. Notification of Disqualification.
Upon a finding of a disqualifying offense, the RAAA Registrar/Finance Manager will notify the Volunteer via email. In addition to informing the disqualified Volunteer, the Registrar/Finance Manager will inform the Program Director for the program the Volunteer had intended to participate in.
Until resolution of the matter, the Volunteer will not be allowed to participate in any RAAA program.
Under no circumstances will a Volunteer be considered if the Volunteer has been found guilty or entered a plea of guilty or nolo contendre (no contest) of a crime that was one against children, involved violence, or was sexual in nature.
d. Volunteer Privacy.
When individual background checks are being reviewed and discussed with RAAA Administrative Committee, the meeting will be closed to the public. The meeting will be conducted with Minnesota's open meeting laws as documented here http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/pubs/openmtg.pdf
Under no circumstances will the contents of any background check be shared with anyone who is not directly involved with reviewing or approving the Volunteer application.
A Volunteer will be disqualified and prohibited from serving if the Volunteer has been found guilty of the offenses listed below. Guilty means the person was found guilty following a trial, entered a guilty plea, or entered a no contest plea, regardless of the adjudication or whether the record has been expunged. This Policy does not apply if the criminal charges resulted in acquittal or dismissal.
a. All felony and misdemeanor sexual offenses, regardless of the amount of time since the offense. Examples include, but are not limited to:
• Child molestation, rape, sexual assault, sexual battery, statutory rape, prostitution, solicitation of prostitution, and indecent exposure
b. All other felony offenses, including property crimes, drug and alcohol crimes, and crimes against a person or an organization, regardless of the amount of time since the offense. Examples include, but are not limited to:
• Murder, manslaughter, assault and battery, child endangerment or neglect, kidnapping, robbery, arson, burglary, felony drug possession and/or distribution, felony DUI, theft, fraud, and embezzlement
c. All misdemeanors that constitute offenses against a person or an organization within the past ten (10) years. Examples include, but are not limited to:
• Assault and battery, child endangerment or neglect, domestic violence, theft, fraud, and embezzlement.
d. All misdemeanors that constitute offenses against a person within the past seven (7)
years. Examples include, but are not limited to:
• Simple assault and hit and run
e. All misdemeanor drug and alcohol offenses within the past five (5) years or multiple of such offenses in the past ten (10) years. Examples include, but are not limited to:
• Driving under the influence, simple drug possession, disorderly conduct, public intoxication and possession of drug paraphernalia
f. Any other offense within the past five (5) years that could be considered a potential danger to children or demonstrates a propensity for violence.
Nothing in this policy shall be construed as a waiver or limitation of the discretion of the RAAA Board of Directors to disqualify a Volunteer where, in the sole opinion of RAAA, such is the interest of the youth participants.
4.Correcting Errors and Appealing Disqualification
The Volunteer is responsible for contacting the reporting agency and taking appropriate action to have the result of the background check report corrected if he or she believes information as reported is erroneous. RAAA, its volunteers, its employees and its Service Providers are not responsible for errors or omissions that may be reported on background checks.
Any Volunteer applicant who is disqualified may appeal the disqualification to the Administrative Committee of the RAAA Board of Directors, which has the sole authority to overturn the disqualification, if in the Committee's complete discretion the Committee finds that, based upon demonstrable proof, under the circumstances, the offense resulting in disqualification does not, at the time of appeal, justify disqualification on the basis that the applicant would pose a risk of harm to children or others. The vote of the Committee regarding the appeal will be final. The Committee will meet to consider the appeal within forty-five (45) days of receipt of the appeal at which time the Volunteer applicant will have an opportunity to appear before the Committee along with the applicant's representative.
The Committee shall render its decision on the appeal within five (5) business days of the hearing.
5. Appeal Process
If a Volunteer would like to appeal a disqualification determination, the Volunteer must submit an appeal request to the RAAA Registrar/Finance Manager via email within two (2) weeks of the Registrar/Finance Manager's original email.
The appeal request must contain:
a. The full name and address of the Volunteer
b. The name and address of the person, if any, making the request for an appeal on behalf of the Volunteer (e.g. lawyer)
c. The grounds for the appeal (provide a detailed explanation of the Volunteer's objections to the decision; describe additional factors or factual errors in the decision).
d. The particulars relevant to the appeal (describe any background facts that relate to
the appeal including how you are affected by the decision).
Concussion Certification Policy
Rosemount Area Athletic Association Concussion Certification Policy
Approved January 2014
In order to preserve the safety and well-being of youth participating in youth sport programs offered by Rosemount Area Athletic Association (RAAA), the Board of Directors hereby adopts the following policy applicable to all board members, program directors, program board members, coaches, assistant coaches, and officials.
General Information.
a. Background
Awareness of concussion and effects of concussion on players, especially youth players, has increased over the past decade. Medically, a concussion is a form of traumatic brain injury. Because it is a brain injury, a concussion is not a visible injury, such as a broken arm. It requires time to heal properly, involving both physical and mental rest. Consequences may include loss of coordination or memory, vision problems, learning issues and changes in emotions and behavior. A concussion may result from a direct blow to the head or from an indirect blow to the body that causes various forces to affect the brain within the skull. Signs and symptoms may appear immediately or may be noticed hours or days (or longer) later. There are a wide variety of symptoms which are possible. Loss of consciousness is not required to be diagnosed with a concussion. Adolescents require more time to recover from concussions than adults.
b. State law requirement.
The Minnesota Legislature passed legislation (MN Statute 121A.37 and 121A.38) in 2011 regarding youth athletes, concussions and return to play. The US Center for Disease Control and Prevention has established the HEADS UP: Concussion in Youth Sports program and tool kit to provide training to coaches, athletes and parents regarding concussions. The Minnesota statute requires any nonprofit organization that organizes a youth athletic activity for which a fee is charged to meet the requirements of the statute. The statute specifically applies to participating coaches and officials. RAAA's policy is that all volunteers and officials take the free online CDC training course. The course takes approximately 30 minutes. Alternative concussion training may be approved by RAAA's Administrative Committee.
c. Validity Period.
Volunteers who continue to participate will be required to take the concussion training once every three (3) calendar years. Training for one program is applicable for all RAAA programs.
To access the concussion video, log onto the athletechs registration website at https://app.athletechs.com/myAccount
Log onto your account with your user name and password
Select your person profile under My Account
Select Take Concussion Certification
Select Launch Training Now
Save a copy of the certificate for your records. In order to save the certificate to your computer, you may need to print and re-scan the document so that it properly saves
Enter evidence of your certification as indicated on the athletechs registration website
Positive Coaching Alliance Policy
The provider has not defined their Positive Coaching Alliance policy. You should ask that they do.
(Approved by RAAA Board of Directors 2/2018)
Rosemount Area Athletic Association (RAAA) is committed to the principles of the Positive Coaching Alliance (PCA). Therefore, we ask that you read and agree to follow these principles when registering your child:
I/We will reinforce the "ELM Tree of Mastery" with my child (E for Effort, L for Learning, M for bouncing back from Mistakes). Because I understand that a mastery approach will help my child succeed in sports and in life, I/We will:
*encourage my child to exert maximum Effort
*help my child Learn through sports
*urge my child to get past Mistakes
I/We will set an example for my child by Honoring the Game, respecting ROOTS (Rules, Opponents, Officials, Teammates, and Self). If I disagree with an official's call, I will Honor the Game and be silent.
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· Player suspension
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That these actions may not be necessarily taken in an escalated manner, and RAAA reserves the right to select and apply any penalty dependent on the situation.
As a parent/guardian of a child involved in a Rosemount Area Athletic Association (RAAA) program, I/we agree to abide by and follow the rules and guidelines listed above.
I/We agree to support and promote the philosophy of RAAA sports.
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In consideration of participation in Rosemount Area Athletic Association ("RAAA") programs, as parent/guardian of the above named participant, by checking the box below, I:
• Acknowledge that the participant is voluntarily participating in activities that involve risk of injury or death which might result from the participant's own actions, inactions or negligence or the rules of play, conditions of the premises or any of the equipment used or the actions, inactions or negligence of others.
• Assume all the foregoing risks as a condition of participation and accept personal responsibility for damages following any injury caused thereby.
• For myself and the participant, unconditionally waive any claims against, release, and consent not to sue, RAAA and any of its officers, directors, agents, coaches, other employees and volunteers, and its sponsors and advertisers, nor Heads Up Football LLC, for any and all liability to the participant, the participant's heirs, and next of kin. This waiver, release and consent is for any claims or losses on account of injury, including death, or damage to property, while participating in any official or unofficial RAAA activities, events and competitions.
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• Agree to inspect the facilities and equipment to be used and that if I believe anything is unsafe, I will immediately advise the coach, and/or RAAA of such conditions.
• Accept responsibility for the decision to continue participation if the participant is suffering from injuries.
• Consent to the participant's name, phone number, and uniform size being released for roster and uniform procurement purposes.
• Consent to the use, without compensation, of the participant's name, voice and likeness in the newspaper, the RAAA's web page and/or promotional, television, radio, internet or film coverage of RAAA events.
• Affirm that all participant information (including grade level and date of birth) entered during registration is accurate, and I also understand that I will be assessed an additional registration fee if the information submitted is incorrect.
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We are very excited about this upcoming season of our youth Cross Country program in Rosemount! This year, we are opening our program for runners entering 1st through 5th grade for the 2020-2021 school year.
The goal of the RAAA Cross Country program is to provide a positive experience for kids of all abilities that are interested in running. The program is designed to develop basic skills in distance running and then build on that foundation as the season progresses.
Because of current guidelines in place to ensure safe participating in youth sports, we expect to have at least 2 meets this season. Please be aware that the number of meets may change - increase or decrease - based on guidance from MDH regarding youth sports.
As in previous seasons, meets are optional. We encourage kids to attend as many practices and meets as they can.
Practices will be twice a week and will meet behind Rosemount High School. A typical practice is a warm-up, trail running and then wrapping up with a cool down and stretching. At the start of the season, much of the focus is on conditioning and building up endurance.
We do need parent coaches that are willing to lead running groups and pre-meet warm-ups. Practice activities will be set so the time commitment are practices and meets. Please note that given current guidelines from MDH, parents that wish to help out/run with their athletes MUST be a registered volunteer and adhere to volunteer requirements (background check, etc.) as noted in the RAAA policies. If you have questions on what this might entail, please contact Anne Knapp, the Cross Country program director.
Program Dates: August 3rd – September 18th (If there is an opportunity to participate in meets after September 18th, we will inform participants as early as possible as it would extend the season.)
Age Requirements: Boys and Girls entering grades 1 through 5 in the fall of 2020.
Equipment: Running shoes required. T-shirts provided by RAAA
Fees: $50.00 registration
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It's quite clear who the refs wanted to win. Let me break it down for you:
1) Late in the 1st half. Heath Miller gets called for a soft, soft, SOFT offensive pass interference penalty. Sure, he put out his arms and pushed off, but this is THE SUPER BOWL. Come on. You can't call that.
2) 4th quarter. Jerramy Stevens CLEARLY catches the ball, is hit by Hope, and fumbles. Yet the zebras somehow call it incomplete. A disgrace. String them up.
3) After a pick, the guys running the clock DON'T START IT. The CLOCK IS STOPPED. Sure, they put 6 seconds back up, but still. I know it's a factual issue and the right call was made in the end after review, but still. Clear bias. Would have cost da Stillers the game... in an alternate universe... the one in my head.
4) The worst one of all. After Roethlisberger throws the pick and the Birds are running it back, he is BLATANTLY blocked in the back, front and center of the screen, right there for the whole world to see. Somehow, the striped shirts decide not to call it. They must have been flustered by being away from home and not in Seattle. That would have put the Birds somewhere at mid-field instead of at the 20, from where they went on to score a TD. What would have obviously happened was they would have started from the 50, thrown a pick, and da Stillers would have returned it for a TD the other way.
I think there should be a Congressional investigation into this blatant match-fixing by the refs. Holmgren clearly paid them off, so that Stephen Alexander could have a nice end to his career....... year that he had, after winning the MVP and all. We all know that's the real reason he was so upset -- they couldn't deliver what he paid them for (the Lombardi Trophy), no matter how hard they tried.
It was tough enough playing the Seahawks (or would have been, had they showed up), but I'm sure da Stillers never imagined they'd have to play the guys in the striped shirts too.
They should be called the "Stealhawks" because they tried to steal this one. I'm clever.


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I just cleaned the Nespresso machine and made me a Nespresso Caramel coffee.
Damn,… it smells so good and the taste is so great!
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A friend launched a location aware website that helps you find the perfect coffee (Koffie – dutch) in Ghent, Belgium
Here is their own explanation of Koffie Met Plets:
It's not a secret that IT people and a caffeine addiction go together very well. But what happens if those people leave their workstations for a change, and get out in the sun in the city they love?
Marc Wojciechowski (aka Plets), Jared Dierickx and Jurriaan Persyn, 3 friends, colleagues and locals have been discovering coffee bars in and around Ghent for the last couple of months. You could call it a mission, but actually it's about having fun and enjoying life with a cup of coffee.
The hobby soon took a more material form, and as of today you can follow their paths online. Explore the wealth of fine roasts the city has to offer on www.koffiemetplets.be.
The website gives an overview of 25 already visited and rated spots in Ghent where they serve good coffee – or at least claim to serve good coffee. The espressos, cappuccinos and lattes were tasted and judged.
Now, being geeks, the trio sneaked in a lot of fancy things like time and location awareness, integration with Google Maps and social services like Twitter. You can see which bar is currently open and, if you're using a modern browser or if you're on a location aware mobile device like an Android phone or iPhone, the site gives you a sorted list of the closest and best rated bars. Just follow the directions and you're set for the much needed caffeine shot.
Off course the journey isn't finished yet, as there are plenty more coffee shops to visit. You can contribute as well and suggest a spot for the to do list.
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Motion, Lighting, and Audio were all things that were constantly changing and could not exactly be relied upon. The boat though having stabilizers, made a constant vibration from the motor that made some shots really hard to pull off. The boat also turned in different directions several times which made the light source, aka the sun, move during a shot. And lastly the sound of the motor and all the other boats in the area all contributed to the ceremony toast being a little more work to clean it all up. But it wouldn't be any fun if there weren't challenges now would it?
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The Defence Ministry said Abdulwahab al-Wali, head of the central security forces, escaped the attack by unknown gunmen in the town of Mukalla, but two of his bodyguards were wounded.
Southern Yemen, which was an independent state until 1990, is troubled by both separatist unrest and an insurgency led by Islamist militants linked to al Qaeda, a source of concern to Gulf states and the West.
Wali survived a previous assassination attempt last year, one of a string of attacks on military, political and militia leaders and officials. Many have been blamed on the Islamists, but the authorities did not say whether any group was suspected of Saturday's shooting.
In other developments, medical and security sources said three people were killed and 14 wounded in clashes between Yemeni security forces and separatists in the south.
Separatist leaders had called for a day of civil disobedience in major southern towns and cities after the deaths of six people in protests on Thursday.
The resurgent movement for a south Yemen state has aggravated political instability in the Arabian Peninsula country, where Washington fears political chaos is giving al Qaeda space to operate.
Shops, bakeries and schools were closed in many southern cities and transport was paralysed after roads were blocked with stones and burning tyres, witnesses said. Many government employees did not turn up for work.
In Aden, capital of the former South Yemen, one person was killed and nine were wounded in clashes on Saturday, medical sources said. Witnesses said armoured vehicles patrolled the streets.
One person was killed in Mukalla and another in Ghayl ba Wazir district in eastern Yemen, while five were wounded, the sources said. The Islah party, one of the most powerful in Yemen, said separatists had set fire to its headquarters in Mukalla.
North and south Yemen were unified in 1990 after the Communist-led southern government collapsed. Northern forces won a brief civil war four years later after the south tried to secede from the union.
The secessionist movement gained strength during mass, nationwide street protests against former president Ali Abdullah Saleh in 2011, which forced the veteran strongman from office a year ago.
Southern Yemenis complain of discrimination by the government in the north. Yemen, which borders the world's top oil exporter, Saudi Arabia, is also facing a northern rebellion by Shi'ite Muslims.
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13-Aug-2011 -- Two years ago I visited the 60°N 6°E confluence SE of Bergen, in Rosendal, after driving my son Fredrik to start his studies in that city.
This year his sister Cathinka have been accepted by the same university so I drove her over the mountains with another carload of most of the gear a student needs for a 5-year MBA program.
On the way back I decided to drive the slightly longer route, along E16, both since this route avoids any need for ferries (for fjord crossings) and because it would allow me to pass close to two new (to me) confluences.
This was the first one, I started by driving 8.6 km uphill along RV52 towards Hemsedal, after leaving E16, the main Bergen-Oslo highway.
I parked at Breistølen Fjellstue, at very close to 1000 m elevation, with my target almost in sight, 4+ km away and just over 500 higher. The first half of the trip I could follow first a road that was put in during tunnel work for a hydro-electric power plant, then a DNT (The Norwegian Trekking Association) trail marked with small cairns and red "T"s.
Bringing just my cell phone, camera and GPS I spent 50 minutes climbing to the point. I probably lost about 5 minutes due to not seeing the DNT trail exiting from the road, so I had to climb straight up the hillside from the water intake at the end of the road in order to regain the trail. (It is possible that this is instead a safety valve, i.e. a location where overpressure waves in the tunnel can be safely contained.)
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Next up was 61°N 9°E one degree further east!