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October 17, 2008
Where did Extract & others features go?
We've been doing a great deal of architectural rework in Photoshop to make good things possible now and in the future (64-bit, a new GPU architecture, better localization support, etc.). That means we have to comb through older features and determine whether it's worth investing in modernizing them, or whether the time would be better spent elsewhere.
In CS4 we made some hard calls and retired a number of features. Some of these can be added back into CS4 (see Mac & Windows downloads) while others are gone for good.
- Our plan is to replace the Extract plug-in with improved versions of its constituent pieces, built directly into Photoshop. Some of these pieces (e.g. Refine Edge) are in place now while others are still in development. In the meantime Extract remains available as an optional download.
- Picture Package, Contact Sheet, Web Photo Gallery, and PDF Presentation have been replaced by the new Output module in Bridge CS4. Of these the first three are in the optional download package, while PDF Presentation no longer works in CS4.
- Photomerge remains part of PSCS4, but the interactive dialog (where you can drag photos around instead of just letting Photoshop do the work automatically) has been moved to the optional downloads package. (Thanks for the feedback on that subject.)
- The Mac TWAIN plug-in is quite long in the tooth and has been moved into the optional downloads, as has the Pattern Maker plug-in.
- The download also contains optional plug-ins (Bigger Tiles) and content (Textures for Texturizer, WPG presets) that used to ship on the product disc.
As noted earlier, it's never fun removing/retiring functionality lest we break an existing workflow. Having said that, we need to prune the app to reduce redundancy and to make sure effort goes into the most valuable tools. Hopefully we're striking a good balance.
Fortunately Adobe doesn't remove Photoshop Scripting. And Glad to see there are some improvement though not so much.
[The huge improvement is being able to control scripts via SWF panels. Reading/writing layer-based metadata is also bound to be a sleeper hit. –J.]
Very glad to hear that the EXTRACT filter gets some work. At its current state, its simply one of those tools you try once and never use again.
In every beginners photoshop class, even before people have the slightest understanding of channels, colour modes, layers or masks, they ask "how can i get my girl off the ugly background and place her on the beach"! Today's answer is a combination of 3rd party plugins, channels, masks & brushes, and I can't wait for a "All photoshop OneClick" solution… smile!
The new output option in Bridge is a huge step into the right direction. We got CS4 only two days ago and the bridge PDF export for contact sheets has already become part of our daily routine.
Will layers support arbitrary metadata?
[Yep. And there's now better support for reading/writing XMP. –J.]
I know you have a lot to report on, but can't wait to learn more.
[Cool; coming up soon. –J.]
I rarely used extract (did not know how to use if correctly).
I appreciate Adobe's transparency regarding "take outs" and "put ins".
Ken in KY
I'm surprised that PDF Presentation is a goner. I use it all the time as an office tool — I scan a bunch of document pages, then use Create PDF Presentation to quickly turn them all into a single doc for "faxing" or emailing. Just curious as to why it was taken out. Or is it still available in Bridge?
[We felt that you'd get a better experience from Bridge, where you can see multiple images, lay them out in whatever order you'd like, preview the output, etc. It therefore wasn't worth investing additional resources in porting PDF Presentation to 64-bit and making other architectural changes that are now underway. –J.]
Not sure where to ask this – just curious why photoshop cs4 keeps accessing activate.adobe.com even when I have fully licensed copy of the software?
[I don't know the details, but I've sent out a query for more info. –J.]
My wife uses Picture package to print thre 4×6's on a page. You indicate that Picture Package is in the optional download, but I don't see it. Can you help?
[I believe the ContactSheetII plug-in covers both Picture Package and Contact Sheet. Let me know if installing it doesn't do the trick. –J.]
Is there a way to do this with the new Bridge Output module? Thanks. Steve
[The Bridge module doesn't presently allow the same level of N-up flexibility you get in Picture Package. –J.]
Without "PDF Presentation" is there a way to create multi-page PDFs? This is part of our printing workflow and we would hate to lose this function.
[As noted, Bridge now includes an Output module that enables creation of multi-page PDFs. –J.]
Regarding contact sheet.
Does the revision to Bridge allow for the creation of a contact sheet from currently open, but not yet saved documents?
This has been an essential part of our workflow for proofing prints for such a long time that I would consider it a major obstacle to upgrading. I do like the contact sheet printing available in Lightroom and presume that the Bridge printing will be similar, but the open docs. option is important.
As you've mentioned, Bridge Output doesn't really offer the same functionality as Picture Package. Is there any plan to add this in the future. There must be other photographers like myself who sell picture packages and want to build custom layouts for them to optimize print area. What software/plug-ins are they using?
It's sad to to see Pattern Maker go (it was useful for most simple patterns for me), I'm glad to see them go so Adobe have better workforce into other things and leave it to third-party plugin developers to do better job. I'm just disappointed that Adobe haven't paid much attention to improving the startup load time and reducing number of plug-ins won't really help much with that.
For the record, I'm happy with the direction Photoshop is going with CS4, I'm just stating what I feel Adobe needs to focus on more and also whining always seem to make us feel better somehow :) I really like the new window mode in CS4 and I've been using it for several months. As others said, I appreciated the transparency on this too.
How about adding a glyph palette to PS?
On doing some further searching it appears that ImagePrint does a very good job of the Picture Package implementation. The latest version of Lightroom goes close but misses the very important issue of being able to create a picture package with more than one photo. If Lightroom had the (photo) Groups feature from ImagePrint it would make it a serious contender for this function. As is, not being able to use more than one pose/photo for the package is a bit of a deal breaker as even when I'm printing a single package for one customer they often request mix and match from more than one photo.
I hope the extract filter will be further improved and returned to the starting line up. I use it with great success regularly and find it one of the most important tools in Photoshop.
After installing CS4 I was trying to open an old Kodak pcd file, no go. Then I remembered the optional Kodak PhotoCD plug-ins that I had with CS3. Couldn't find them on the extra CS4 disks or at Adobe, apart from a link to Kodak, where you can download the old 1997 "Aquire" module. I dug out my PS CS3 disk and installed it from there instead – works fine. The Kodak PhotoCD plug in and profiles might be something to include in the legacy plug-in download? greetings
[Unfortunately Kodak stopped supporting the plug-in a long, long time ago, so it doesn't work on Intel-based Macs, in 64-bit mode, and maybe under other circumstances. There's not much we can do about it, so we've stopped shipping the plug-in. –J.]
Ach PDF Presentation was so useful. Now I have to use Acrobat to merge all the PDFs that Layer Comps to Files creates. A bit of a backward step.
Kodak's official page for PhotoCD:
You can still download their software from this page, however:
"This product is discontinued. Kodak no longer offers technical support by telephone or e-mail."
I've converted all the PhotoCD images I shot in college to TIFF so I can catalog and edit the images in Lightroom.
The loss of the CS3 version of "PDF Presentations" is causing problems for many Users of CS4 — as witnessed by numerous postings on this topic in the User to user Forums.
The Bridge CS4/Output version of PDF Presentations needs considerable refinement to make it usable — including many more User-customizable settings and also the ability to save Style sheets/templates.
It should also open the normal "Save for PDF" dialog so that user settings for compression and resolution etc. can be entered.
At the moment, its capabilities are not yet of "Professional User" strength.
Likewise the CS4 Web Gallery module in Bridge CS4 Output.
Users need the ability to customize these Galleries to a far greater extent than they currently can.
We need to be able to choose titling for thumbnails as well as the main image; and that titling should include options to create the text from either File Name or from metadata (such as Title or Keywords).
The use of custom background images should be made possible; and Image Framing also need to be User definable — both for color and thickness.
And it also essential that it becomes possible to save Customized formats as Styles for re-use.
Is there any way that this issue can be addressed reasonably quickly with either a Plug-in or with a dot release because the need for these features is obviously of daily importance to many people?
PDF presentation is essential to my workflow. Bridge can't handle my files and I can't control the output – the quality is too low for digital printing. Do you recommend an alternative?
What I'd like to know is who the person is who decides to eliminate Picture Packages and Web Gallery? Do they live in a vacuum? Why is it that the consumer has to buy all these upgrades because we upgrade our camera equipment only to find we have to relearn Photoshop because "someone" "out there" makes a decision for ME?! There's a saying….."if it ain't broke"…….
I agree with Austin's comments. I feel I have been blackmailed into upgrading. My new camera requires camera raw 5.2 and to get this in Bridge I am forced to upgrade.
[That's not the case. You can download the DNG Converter, which is free, and use it to make your proprietary raw images compatible with Camera Raw all the way back to CS1. –J.]
I then find (and I did not see any warning of this in advance) that some features key to my workflow are not there. Web gallery is linked into my e-commerce as it is for hundreds of people who use EOS. Granted I have got it back, but I have had to do extra work. And where is the help file? I don't want to connect to the web every time I have a question. The package that was delivered had no manual, no help file, and the help pdf will not complete a download from the web. This is 2 steps forward and 1 step back.
Bring back the 'PDF Presentation' script. Your Bridge Output module is for entry level users, not for production level processing, and to add InDesign as a step in the 'recipe' to modify compression, Acrobat version compatibility, security, etc. is a true pain in the ass.
I'm using Photoshop and Bridge CS3 extended and the PDF Presentation
tool for creating a slideshow doesn't contain a "Fade" transition. It has
many other goofy transitions that I would be embarrassed to use professionally.
Am I missing something? Is there a plugin some where?
With CS3–Windows version, I regularly used CTRL-A (select all) and Select–>Modify–>Contract to create a stroke inside an image. With CS4, Contract is not available if I used CTRL-A. If I used one of the select tools (lasso, marquee, etc.), then all the functions under Modify are enabled. WHY was the function removed from CS4? I have an action in CS3 that puts the stroke inside the image as part of a frame action. Now that action errors out "Contract not available". Any suggestions??
[Let me see what I can find out about this one. –J.]
Hi all, after reading thru for support concerning the now defunct "Contact sheet II" option in and with the newer PS version CS4, and after a couple a days of different suggested tryouts, after downloading and then installing the suggested "Output module" into Bridge CS4 it is finally showing up in the menu area of Bridge under Tools/Photoshop/contact sheet II…, it is showing up there but trying to enable what is now a new plug-in it naturally wants to opens up in PS-CS4 and winds up looking for it there! Were it is not located… so it does not open, enable or work, to my ever lasting frustration!
Please someone help me! I have way too much time invested here but put in too much effort as well! So I have come to wits end! I am slow sometimes too, too many car accidents, or something!
Can anyone help me out here? I have try a couple a different suggested options but non that i can get to work!
Thank you, Jim
what happens if I take my computer where I cannot get internet or it goes offline and want to look something up in help? point made I think.
[Not that I can see. You simply download and install the plug-in & go on your way–no further connection required. –J.]
I use contact sheet all the time to send photo wants to magazine editors. It WAS quick and easy. I could select images on a page in bridge and go photoshop>contact sheet. Really good and easy and quick. This new pdf thing is rubbish. I cannot select images or if I do it shows different ones. It is soooo slow. Rubbish, rubbish and yet more rubbish.
Why do you keep changing the design? I have only just gotten used to CS3 and wham a new design. Change it every 3 or 4 upgrades please.
[Contact Sheet hasn't been changed since 1998 or so. I hate that we get ripped simultaneously for changing too slowly and too quickly, for being bloated and for retiring outdated functionality. –J.]
I think most of my upgrade money is wasted on cosmetic changes and removing things I need. Of course I want to put CS3 on my old computer but now cannot because of your stupid activation program and the fact I need to use it still on my main computer.
[You can install & activate CS3 (and 4 and 2) on up to two machines simultaneously. –J.]
I apparently was one of a few who regularly used the EXTRACT filter. For those few of us, it would be helpful to have a link to the download on this page.
There is no way to activate 2 copies of any adobe program. Like windows, they mean dual cpu machines, not two machines.
[You're mistaken. It's always been possible to activate the app on two physically separate machines. Where did you get your information, and why do you feel comfortable repeating it here as fact? –J.]
But I was considering upgrading to get rid of the CS3 bugs but it seems this won't do it. More of a downgrade rather than an upgrade.
[Why do you say so? –J.]
John – I'm glad you've posted this and the links to get the Extract plug-in as well!
Something needs to be done with the limp-wristed, anemic Animation panel though!! All you guys seemed to do was put ImageReady on a timeline.
And… Why can't we change Scale, Rotation and Transform over time? Why is layer animation so jerky (even at 30fps) and why can't we have at least a preset Keyframe Interpolation (Ease-in/out)? It doesn't have to be adjustable even.
I'm not asking for After Effects features built in – I can live without Motion Blur and other advanced features (actually not – I just use AE) but still… I find the current state of animation features a bit pathetic.
I for one do miss the PDF presentation feature in automate. Why get rid of this feature? It certainly worked well in previous versions.
I have downloaded the Help PDF file – How can I make CS4 look to this file and not try to go on-line for context sensitive help?
[You need to open the PDF directly. I don't think there's a way to have the Help menu take you to it. –J.]
Actually there is a way. You have to delete or rename a certain file. But I don't remember which—hell of a lot of help I am :(
It is however working for me now. I B&M'd about only online help until someone helped me out.
Pretty sure that it was mentioned here last fall. You might try a search for help.
But John can find out :) Knowing that it is possible is the major hurdle.
Thanks Scott – found the following on support.
Selecting the "offline" option forces CS4 to look to local .html files installed from the DVD. Unfortunately they are dated 2008/09/19 and the support link implies that they can't be updated. It advises that you download the latest Help PDF and refer to that for up-to-date help.
In our neck of the woods, slow/poor internet connections means that online help can be very tedious.
After downloading the plugins for picture package into the "automate" folder in photoshop, I only see the contact sheet option in Bridge. How do I see the option for picture package?
Hi Andy
To me the whole concept of online help stinks. For ex, my main system cannot even get internet.
And the complaint that the DVDs or our hard drives are getting 'full' isn't very helpful either. It could be an option…
And thank you for finding the link. My pdf's are Nov 08, but either date is about when PS went gold so maybe not so bad?
[After downloading the plugins for picture package into the "automate" folder in photoshop…]
…look in the File menu > Automate > Picture Package in Photoshop.
Thus type of question belongs in the Adobe Photoshop forum for your platform, Macintosh or Windows.
Hi Andy,
I actually read the link that you found :)
and see that with no internet Adobe still takes care of us. Didn't know that; and have been in China too long on my laptop to notice my desktop working.
I really miss EXTRACT. I used it all the time. I downloaded it and put it in the adobe PS CS4 plugins/filters as indicated by the readme file. The file is there but it is still not showing up in my photoshop filter menu. What am I doing wrong? Is anyone else having the same problem?
I beg to differ as to the PDF presentation being the same in Bridge CS4 as it was in Photoshop CS3. In the later I could run a lot more automated. I could have my scanner process a bunch of images, load them into photoshop as I went and then build a PDF based on open documents.
I could also build a PDF presentations from a variety of files from different sources. So if I had 5 images in photoshop open and I wanted to add a cover page to my presentation that I store in another location, I could due this quite easily.
It was really quite remarkable add in from the CS2 days.
Now this all requires several steps that slow down the workflow and confuse users who didn't even realize what was going on behind the scenes.
There has to be a way to bring it back in some .xxx update. PLEASE.
"Hopefully we're striking a good balance."
Sorry, you aren't. The loss of the PDF Presentation function from PS is huge. I understand that IN THEORY this makes some sense to have the functionality in Bridge, but in practice, it's a royal PITA, and doesn't adequately replace the old functionality. PLEASE bring it back.
I like the Bridge handling of pdf creation in cs4. Is there a way to add a music overlay to pdf presentation?
[You may be able to do so via Acrobat, but I'm afraid that Bridge can't do it on its own. –J.]
I agree, I like the Bridge handling of pdf creation. Sometimes change is better!
Why, why, why, did they take away the option to dock tabs at the top of the screen on CS4? Now I'm stuck with these floating tabs that require me to constantly move them or else I have to constantly hit the tab button to temp. clear them from my monitor while I work? There is still plenty of unused space up there and as a photographer, I used that top bar for everything.
[The palette well was retired in CS3. You can drag panels in various ways to create your own sort of palette well (e.g. here's a screenshot. –J.]
I loved the Extract tool and used it in my work all the time. It was great on animals hair although I had my own methods of using it rather than those normally taught. If it has gone or if I have to buy it as an optional extra then I don't think I'll bother upgrading. If I've got to spend a lot of time refining a new technique before I can create any more portraits then it simply isn't viable.
[Did you see the link in this post where I said you could download the plug-in for CS4? –J.]
I'm trying to learn scripting for Photoshop and other Adobe apps. It's been a rocky road so far.
I made my first attempt at scripting with CS3, and found that neither my simple scripts nor the samples from Adobe would run on my Windows XP computer. With CS4, my scripts ran,but Photoshop would slow to a crawl if I had a document open that had been created with a script. Scripts for Illustrator and Indesign didn't exhibit this problem.
The 11.0.1 update to Photoshop appears to have fixed at least some of the problems. Creating new Photoshop documents with either Javascript or VBScript is still slow, but no longer so slow that scripting becomes impractical. Again, the slow performance has so far appeared only with Photoshop, not Illustrator or InDesign.
What has been frustrating about all of this is that I haven't found a way to report these problems to Adobe. With the feedback form on the Adobe Website, I am required to select a product, and there are no choices related to scripting. Selecting Photoshop doesn't appear to be the answer, since a Photoshop support rep told me on the phone that they wouldn't know what to do with a report involving scripting. I don't expect Adobe to teach me scripting, but when the tools they provide don't work as advertised, there needs to be a way to report the problem.
The fact you removed PDF Presentation REALLY sucks. The Bridge implementation is hopeless as it does not give me proper controls over the PDF output. A PDF I usually get down to about 2MB just came out at 29.5 MB, on the low quality setting. No good for email.
I'm now going to reinstall CS3. Great move guys. Maybe you should listen to your users. Or maybe you just don't care now you've got a monopoly on the market.
Do not understand WHY the Tranfer function was grayed out in STD CS4. It was a valuable tool in CS3 when using standard Ink Jet Printers & Vista.
[We've been quietly rewriting the printing code in Photoshop. In order to move to Cocoa (as required by Apple in order to deliver a 64-bit Mac application), we need to move from QuickDraw to Quartz, and that means leaving certain things behind.
For what it's worth, in six months of shipping CS4 yours is only the second complaint I've heard about the removal of this option for non-PostScript printers. Sometimes the cost of maintaining an old feature overwhelms the benefit gained by keeping it around. (Put another way, we have to focus on things used by more people.) –J.]
I too installed extract in my filters, but can't get it when I open PS. Is there another step?
[Are you using a 64-bit Windows OS? I believe Extract is 32-bit only. That means that if you're running Vista64 or XP64, you need to install Extract inside the plug-ins folder of the 32-bit version of the app. –J.]
I am running Vista64 and my CD has both the 64 and 32 bit versions of the Extract filter. My CS4 version is 64 bit only, so what goes where? :)
i use extract almost every day, what i am going to do now!!!???.
[Are you kidding? Did you read the post on which you're commenting? The post includes links to the downloads. –J.]
Lots of great new features in CS4. In general an improvement, however, I REALLY miss the multiple page contact sheets from Photoshop CS3. I often shoot hundreds of images and want the ability to print all in a folder as multiple contact sheets before editing. The Bridge version isn't good enough.
[Can you provide some specifics so that we can improve it? –J.]
I teach photoshop and most of my students feel the same way.
Also please, please get a script to turn off the "virtual" rotate and zoom features!! I have a new touch/gesture sensitive trackpad and the image in photoshop tends will zoom and rotate uncontrolablly. Would LOVE the option to turn it off.
[Already done: check this out. –J.]
I can't believe the Extract command was removed. It's a big disappointment to me, as I use it ALL the time. I don't know what you mean by saying that it didn't work properly. It was just old and destructive, so all you have to do is duplicate the layer, extract it, then make a mask out of it and apply the mask to the original layer. It was PERFECT, it was intelligent and was able to "see" the edges. The new techniques, however, such as Quick Select, are just sloppy and not precise. Furthermore, Refine Edge and the Masks panel is NOT "intelligent". They allow you to feather the OVERALL selection mask without precise control. You cannot use that to automatically feather hair while keeping the contour of a hand sharp in the same selection. You could do that with Extract, while correcting it with a brush.
I think it was just too old and should have been improved instead of removed. It was really a useful tool and people who didn't use it were wasting a lot of time. I hope Adobe will be making a tool that will intelligently "see" the edges and not just offer an overall "blur" option.
[We certainly intend to improve Refine Edge. In the meantime, note that you can download Extract & keep working with it in CS4. –J.]
I agree that the extract is a big loss to the utilities. Feather does not have exactly the same results as extract used to. I am thinking of loading an earlier version as well to work alongside the current cs4.
[Please, please… people need to read the post before commenting on it. The download link you seek is right above this text. –J.]
Apologies for not reading the tut properly and missing the info on the extract tool. My mistake as your blog is really clear and easy to follow!
Am I to understand that Extract is not available for the 64 bit version of Photoshop?
[That's correct. It'll run just fine under the 32-bit version, which you can opt to install (alongside the 64-bit version if you wish) using the same installer. –J.]
I'm very disappointed to find the PDF Presentation gone. I really like to make PDF Presentations for my class. And most of the time Bridge and Photoshop are not available, so all I needed was the Adobe Reader. Boo.
Also why would you remove the Web Gallery feature but have it as a plugin? You must indent to eliminate it all together.
[Eventually, yes. –J.]
I feel pushed into Lightroom for features that I could enjoy in one product.
[You know you can make PDFs from Bridge, right? –J.]
I am using CS4 for the first time. When you go to the online help and as for help with "Extract" it takes you to tutorials and help that doesn't match the CS4 Image or Filter options. Not in the habbit of bashing anyone making software, but having seen the emotion associated with the need to "piece-patch" a pretty expensive software suite I must say I'm frustrated. BTW – where is the link in the above thread to download the Extract Plug In…My install disks are at the office…
Hi jhon.
I agree with you that many of the tools may be redundant, but i still dont get why the features got the optional "axe" since all of them help streamline the workflow. to be honest im not completely happy about those changes, but still im giving you guys the benefit of the doubt as i believe we will meet them again in future releases. Photoshop cs5 anyone? ;)
Luis S.
um….. the missing automate to PDF thing? gone….. how do I do this in Bridge?
I need assintance with Bridge & ps. I have attempted the drop & drag thing with to get pic pkg. back & it's not working for me at all. I have win vista home version on my hp. Every time i try to take an image & turn it into a pic pkg. it automatically tranfers it into ps & says it cannot open the unkown file. Please help. I've tried forums & i must be completely ignorant because i'm getting nowhere. Thank you so much….a mom
Quote: Willard Poindexter — 3:50 PM on December 16, 2008
With CS3–Windows version, I regularly used CTRL-A (select all) and Select–>Modify–>Contract to create a stroke inside an image. With CS4, Contract is not available if I used CTRL-A. If I used one of the select tools (lasso, marquee, etc.), then all the functions under Modify are enabled. WHY was the function removed from CS4? I have an action in CS3 that puts the stroke inside the image as part of a frame action. Now that action errors out "Contract not available". Any suggestions??
[Let me see what I can find out about this one. –J.]
Hi, I also have an action I used to use a lot for my photographic website but can't anymore due to the problem described above.
Is there any news on as to why this is not possible anymore in CS4?
I've got a workaround but that is very tedious to say the least and cannot be automated.
Please get this fixed a.s.a.p.
Okay… soooooo… New to CS4 altogether and happened to have come across a CS2 Tutorial book at a yard sale. It's superb, but I got totally lost when it tried to teach me to use the Extract function that I couldn't find. Doh! I can't thank you enough for this posting. Unlike many others, I found the link easily in this posting. The 32 bit comment was especially helpful, too. Thanks again. Thank you, thank you and… thank you.
Thanks for posting this topic. I'm glad I found the plug-in for the highly-used Extract filter.
I'm looking forward to when PS has implemented this feature completely.
Quote: Willard Poindexter — 3:50 PM on December 16, 2008
With CS3–Windows version, I regularly used CTRL-A (select all) and Select> Modify> Contract to create a stroke inside an image. With CS4, Contract is not available if I used CTRL-A. If I used one of the select tools (lasso, marquee, etc.), then all the functions under Modify are enabled. WHY was the function removed from CS4? I have an action in CS3 that puts the stroke inside the image as part of a frame action. Now that action errors out "Contract not available". Any suggestions??
[Let me see what I can find out about this one. –J.]
I'm having a similar problem. In CS3 I would Select All then Alt+Ctrl+D to feather the selection. This was a very fast technique for making a vignette layer. In CS4 Feather is not available after you Select All, only Border. I have an action for this that now no longer works. The workaround is tedious.
Is there a fix yet?
This infuriating bug with not being able to select all and use the Contract, Smooth, etc. Modify commands has been around since the CS4 beta, and I'm baffled why Adobe hasn't fixed this yet.
I have noticed that if you do select all and then hit the down arrow once so that the top edge is 1px below the border, all the Modify commands become available, however only that top part of the selection is affected. The other three side are unchanged.
So basically any part of a selection that is touching the border does not respond to Modify commands.
BRING BACK PDF PRESENTATION IN CS4. My workflow has slowed down to a crawl because it's gone.
PDFs at low quality are still too big. I'm putting together contact sheets of images from multiple folders… I used to open the images I wanted. Create a multi page contact sheet, and then save to pdf presentation….Can't do that now….
The drawbacks of CS4 seriously outweigh any benefits over CS3. I'm reinstalling CS3.
One thing you could do to fix it would to be able to right click an image and temporarily save a copy to the "output folder".
That way I could go through all my folders and right click the ones that I want to create a pdf presentation with, and then go to the output module and really select the different levels of quality and order like the old pdf presentatation.
Give an option to save the folder as well which it renames when creating the pdf otherwise it clears the copies out for the next time…
thanks for your help.
I was struggling with CS4.
The 'Extract' filter is much missed.
I find it strange that a feature which had 4 pages devoted to it in Adobe's CS3 'Classroom in a Book' became an optional install in CS4.
In our own company (with several hundred CS4 users), all software is installed by the IT department and individual users can't load 'optional extras'.
It's frustrating to have spent a considerable amount of money on an upgrade and then lost the functionality which we had before, before an alternative was ready to be rolled out :-(
I really can't believe, that I get less options, when I buy an update for 1000 Euro.
[You don't get fewer options. You can download and install Extract right now. –J.]
I think it's not very funny.
Thanks for this info and a link to down load the extract brush. I have been looking all day for this.
where can one download the extract tool?
I've followed the comments on how to open old Kodak Photo CDs in Photoshop CS4 — found the right plug-in and color profiles on CS3 discs. But apparently didn't copy them to the right place on CS4 because I still get the same error messages about unsupported file/can't open, etc. I'm not a techie, but if someone could send me detailed, accurate instructions on where, exactly, to install the components and how to make it work, I would be forever in your debt. I have years of B&W photos that I suddenly can no longer access. While I'm not a techie, I am pretty good at following directions. Any help would be very much appreciated. Thanks so much.
BTW, I'm on a Vista 64-bit system.
Removing the Extract filter and then making those of us who use it beat our heads on the desk until we find out how to download it and install it was a bonehead move by Adobe. I used Extract a LOT. Now I can't meet my deadline. Thanks Adobe!
Well, thanks to replace Extract and Pattern maker, cause, I've just used them for design only…
Extract for grunge effects (not to extract anything)
And So on pattern Maker for design things…(see corey barker examples)
I agree that Bridge is the obvious place for PDF Presentation, and we're glad that in still exists within the Output module. However, there's no option to compress the PDF as there was before. We create PDF proof sheets to email to clients, and the PDFs created in Output are HUGE. The only solution is to then open them in Acrobat Pro and use "Reduce File Size", an unnecessary 2-step process.
Seems it would have been much better if Adobe had retained the compression option, or am I missing something here?
try vertus fluid mask, or the new mask pro 4.1 at ononesoftware.com, both have 1mth trials. or for a more basic masking extraction software, topaz remask..but I find mask pro the best, followed by fluid mask…in saying this if you wait I feel adobe has some great things planned with extraction since it is a key compositing tool for all 2d magazine artists, the refine edge tool is very much an extraction tool but you`ll need to invest time into understanding it together with the masking palette..
Same here. Reinstalled CS3 to use PDF Presentation. A step back in history!
In the implementation of Contact Sheet II on CS4 we are not able to have the file name wrap to multiple lines as we were able to do in CS2. I've tried both in the Output module and in Contact Sheet II plug in. Any thoughts on how to do this? Wife likes long file names….
i couldnt agree more !!! exactly. thats one of those things that swap productivity out of the window for you. And adobe and MS have plenty of such frustrating examples to show lately. Killing your workflow, going backwards, living in their own world since themselves are not out there in the market making a living out of the tools they program, They build mostly on marketing type speculations "thats what the average user should do it" or "how is wanting it to be"
I have the same problem; did you ever solve it?
I jumped from CS3 to CS5 and I was very disappointed to learn that the manual arrangement feature within Photomerge was omitted from CS5. This feature is essential when merging a vertical panorama because it allows you to set the proper perspective (i.e., usually the image closest to the ground is selected as the "perspective" image). Without this manual selection, there does not seem to be a way to control that feature.
Will the "optional download" from CS4 work with CS5?
[It may work in 32-bit mode, but I'm afraid I haven't checked it, and as people are out on vacation this week, I can't ask for confirmation. –J.]
I loved the extract feature. Although I make masks all day, Extract went about it in a unique way. Could extract be brought back with an option of making cleaner edges than the previous extract?
Lorrianne, no. We've replaced the old extract technology with the new, non-destructive refine edge technology:
CS5 is much easier to work with
i cant find the extract filter in my photoshop CS4
for windows 7
what can i do to get it back?
thank you
What a scam. Also, the Change Layer Content is gone, too. Why?
[Because, when we surveyed thousands of prerelease customers, no one reported using it. Inevitably *someone* is using every feature in PS, but to make for the new sometimes we have to prune the old. –J.]
Amazingly, the useless Lens Flare filter is still there. And the Paint Bucket. What gives?
[In recent usage data, Paint Bucket usage ranks #31 out of the ~10,000 Photoshop operations reported. Clearly, though, we should pull it based on the hunch of a guy hiding behind a pseudonym. –J.]
Well, I have upgraded from CS3 to CS5, missed the extract tool (as the 'refine edge' tool is way less sophisticated), downloaded the plugin, installed it the way Jan Kabili showed in a tutorial but it won't show up. Did some homework and launched PS in 32 bits mode. Nothing. Then I installed the whole 'additional plug-ins folder' outside of the Photoshop/plugin folder. All the plugins show up in Photoshop. Except the Extract filter. I'm at a loss here. Any ideas? I'm on a Mac.
How can you scroll thru the layer blend modes? In previous versions, you select the select tool and hightlight the blend mode and use the up and down arrow keys to scroll thru the blend modes, now this doesn't work!
[I don't know why anything would have changed in this regard, but in any event you can select the Move tool, then hit Shift-plus/minus to cycle through blending modes (or use the various shortcuts like Opt-Shift-E to jump to specific blending modes). –J.]


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What's the best way to set up a consultation or an appointment with a photographer during the COVID-19 pandemic?
The best way to set up an appointment or a consultation with a photographer near you during the COVID-19 pandemic is by conducting an online search. Start by scheduling a call with the photographer. If possible, it may be better to use a video call service so that the photographer can get an idea of the site location. Take this opportunity to discuss safety measures you can take during this time, as well as whether it's safe to complete the project now or simply postpone it.
Are there ways to be safe if I hire a photographer when social distancing?
If you decide to hire a photographer, see if the photographer can take photos outdoors or in a large space so all involved parties can maintain the recommended distance between themselves. You should also sanitize surfaces, avoid handshakes, don't make any other physical contact and use digital platforms to complete payments. Speak with a local photographer in your area to put a strategy in place.
How can I find out if a photographer is considered an essential COVID-19 service provider?
Consult your city or state's government websites, which typically have information on which services are deemed essential during the pandemic.
For national information, visit CISA's page on Identifying Critical Infrastructure During COVID-19. Here, you can find 16 different types of essential infrastructure sectors that can continue operating unimpeded during the pandemic. But some, not all, jurisdictions follow CISA's definitions of critical infrastructure.
Do photographers offer remote or virtual services?
Photography happens in person, but photographers may be able to offer other remote services safely during the COVID-19 pandemic. For example, they may be able to offer editing and other post-processing services.
If you see that a photographer is offering remote services in their profile, contact them and ask what those services include.
Can I use digital payments to pay for wedding and event photography services?
As digital forms of payment and money transfer are becoming more popular, wedding and event photographers are likely to use digital services. These include PayPal, Zelle, Google Pay, Venmo, Square Cash and more. As you search online for local wedding and event photographers, ask them if they accept digital payments and, if so, which ones you can use. And make sure to have a strategy in place for safe social distancing.
Does a photographer need to enter my home?
There are many situations in which a photographer does not need to enter your home. It's not uncommon for people to prefer to have their pictures taken outdoors. If you're hiring a photographer, maintain safe distances, avoid being in the same room, sanitize all involved surfaces and conduct payment using digital platforms. You can discuss strategies as you complete your search for local photographers.
How much does it cost for a photographer for a wedding?
Finding the right wedding photographer can make a big difference for your ceremony. Nationally, the average wedding photographer's price ranges from $800 to $1,000, but costs can be much higher in areas like Chicago, New York or Los Angeles where some couples spend $2,000 to $5,000 or more for the photographer they want. Factors that can affect your wedding photographer prices include the photographer's reputation and experience. Heavy hitters can command top rates, especially during wedding-season weekends. Day of the week also affects your cost. You may get a $200 discount on wedding photographer prices if you get married on a Friday in November rather than a Saturday in June. Time onsite is also an important cost factor. Hiring a photographer to snap photos from the moment you wake up until after last call at the reception is going to cost more than five hours of pictures during the day. Multiple photographers, special lighting, and videography will also increase your costs. Ultimately you want to find someone who has a style you love and can provide the number of edited shots you want for a price you can handle. Learn more about hiring a wedding photographer.
Do you tip a photographer for family photos?
Tipping a photographer for family portraits is not standard etiquette. A great way to recognize a family photographer who goes above and beyond is to write them a glowing review. You probably found your photographer by reading online reviews, so paying it forward by letting everyone know how much you appreciate their work is a great gift. Write your review after they have delivered the final edited photos on time and you've confirmed that you're happy with the terrific portraits they took.
How much do photographers charge for family portraits?
Family portraits are a great way to mark the passage of time, create lifelong keepsakes and have gorgeous-looking photos for your annual holiday card. The national average cost for hiring family photographers ranges from $150 to $200. Pricing can range higher depending on where you live, length of the photo shoot, the number of edited photos you request, and the background and reputation of your family photographer. Before hiring, make sure you understand their fees up front. Ask how many finished images are included in the quoted price and whether you will receive all the photos taken (not just edited photos). Ask whether you'll be able to download digital photos or if you'll have to print them or purchase digital copies through the photographer. Here are some average examples of family photographer pricing:
- $175 for a one-hour studio session in Kansas.
- $200 for a one-hour studio or outdoor session in Georgia. Includes two outfit changes, access to an online gallery, and about 200 high-resolution, edited digital photo files on a DVD, with permission to print.
- $400 for a one-hour outdoor session in Southern California. Includes 25-30 fully edited photos accessible online or via CD/DVD.
- $425 or more for a one-hour outdoor or in-home session in Illinois. Includes more than 50 professionally edited images, online access and print release.
When should you take newborn photos?
Few styles of portrait photography are as tricky as newborn photos — the unpredictable infant is always in charge! The best way to ensure a successful photo shoot is to work with a local newborn photographer within the first two weeks of the baby's life. Some photographers even work with hospitals to offer newborn sessions within a day of the baby's birth. But newborn photographers usually recommend scheduling a shoot during the baby's first two weeks of life, while the baby is still sleepy and relatively cooperative, especially for posed or studio shots. During this time, babies are easier to swaddle in blankets and dress in hats or headbands, and, because they often nap or nurse, can be staged with various props or be cuddled by their parents. For casual photos, most newborn photographers recommend shooting within the first six weeks of a baby's life. Lifestyle portrait photography is more flexible and doesn't require the baby to cooperate with multiple poses or props.

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Encaustic designs add element of surprise
Denver artist Jamie Lang sold nearly all of his small, handmade tiles during a recent crafts show, and he can only guess the reasons why. The adobe tiles are minimally decorated — with a red bicycle or a solitary house — and covered with a thin, smooth layer of wax.
"It was new, something different," Lang said after the show in Boulder, Colo., while other artists packed up their wares to take home.
Lang works in encaustic, an ancient medium of pigment and hot wax that's resurging in popularity.
The wax technique dates to at least the first century AD, according to Lissa Rankin in her book "Encaustic Art" (Watson-Guptill, 2010). Its popularity waned during the Middle Ages and Renaissance with the rise of tempera paints, but was revived during the mid-18th century, says Rankin. Painters Paul Gauguin and Georges Seurat were among those experimenting with it. In the 20th century, encaustic was featured in painter Jasper Johns' work, including his iconic "Flag" (1954-55).
Encaustic involves heating beeswax and damar resin, often with added color, and either pouring or painting the mixture onto a surface. The tree resin helps harden and stabilize the wax. An encaustic surface can be two-dimensional, such as wood or paper, or 3-D.
Daniella Woolf, 65, an artist in Santa Cruz, Calif., says she discovered encaustic a decade ago and "completely fell in love with it." Its versatility makes it the "glue" that holds disparate mediums together, says Woolf, author of "The Encaustic Studio" (Interweave/F+W Media, 2012).
"I spent a lifetime working in different media. I now can use any of those media by using the wax to pull it all together," Woolf says.
Encaustic can be unpredictable and unwieldy, but that adds an element of surprise and mystique to the results.
The technique can be combined with anything from oil and watercolor paints to chalk, ink, photo transfers and fabric — even plaster and three-dimensional objects. Colors are mixed into or suspended in the wax, while objects are imbedded.
The encaustic process is not for the faint of heart. There are some basic safety precautions. The wax medium becomes molten hot when it's ready to use, and if its temperature rises above 200 degrees Fahrenheit, the fumes become toxic.
For this reason, Lang, Woolf and Rankin work in well-ventilated studios. Each recommends having open windows and a fan near the workspace.
"Once (the beeswax and resin) melts down . and cools, it's past (having) any kind of the toxic element to it," says Lang.
Additionally, because encaustic involves fusing one layer of wax on top of one or more other layers, a heat source is needed. Woolf uses an open-flame torch; heat guns and even some irons — specific to the task, not clothes irons— also work. Woolf recommends experimenting to find the equipment that works best. Her book lists basic supplies, as does Rankin's.
"Used carefully, encaustic is safe, natural, luminous, versatile, and a great way to either start painting or open up your creativity if you're an experienced artist," says Rankin, of Marin County, Calif.
Encaustic paint starter kits — the color is pre-mixed with the wax and resin — are available online. Woolf and Lang buy their paint supplies from R&F Handmade Paints' online store. Woolf also teaches workshops for the Kingston, N.Y., paint manufacturer.
While Lang is self-taught — using Rankin's book — he recommends taking a class to learn encaustic technique. Woolf agrees.
"It seems very complicated, but it is really quite simple," she promises. "Once you learn the basics, it's incredibly forgiving."
Other artists' testimonials:
"The medium does things you're not totally expecting," says Nadine Swahnberg, a Denver artist and minister. "You do have some say in the matter, but there's a 'miraculousness' to it."
"Encaustic is fun to do and the product is mysterious and beautiful," says Susan Garwood, a Lincoln, Neb., artist. "I love the great depth you can achieve ... when stuff is about three layers down, it takes on a whole new meaning."
And Mona Marshall of Austin, Texas, says: "I love it because it allows me to scratch into the surface to discover the image rather than build it in the traditional way."


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The Meze 99 Classics Headphones Sweepstakes
According to the company:
What is it that discards the superfluous, the gimmicky, the flashy, the questionable, the overly fragile, the misplaced? The obvious answer would be time. And this is also the riddle of good design: very few objects achieve such a rarefied consistency of qualities. This is our aim with the Meze 99 Classics, the anti-fragility of a classic, with a sound on par with the design. Pure, natural sound in a timeless body.
To enter the sweepstakes, all you need is an account on this website. If you don't already have one, click on the link labeled "register" at the bottom of this announcement or "LOG IN/JOIN" in the nav bar at the right. Then, enter a username and a valid e-mail address, and click on the "Create new account" button. A message will be automatically sent to the e-mail address you specified, which will include a link to activate the account.
The final step (and only step for those who already have an account) is to log in and leave a comment right here on this announcementany comment will do, as long as it's not profane or spam. Then, when the sweepstakes closes, a lucky commenter will be chosen at random to receive the prize. So post a comment, and good luck!
For complete sweepstakes rules, click here.
[This Sweepstakes is now closed.]
If these sound as good as they look I'd be very happy to win them.
Would love an upgrade that looks so good.
hey Micah, I beat you. I wish this was in comic sans. GL everybody.
Great, informative site; awesome contest!
I've always wanted some nice, wooden headphones. These look gorgeous!
My HP50 died on me! I need something new
Mezze is a Romanian company, I will be a great ambassador!
Bravo băieții! (a socer compliment for the connoisseur of Romanian humor :) )
With larger ear pads, they should be more practical and comfortable.
...would look right at home in my living room, which has wood floors, a beautiful mantle over the fireplace, and several pieces of custom-made quarter-sawn oak furniture.
Oh, and I bet they sound good, too!
These are really pretty. My wife needs a new pair that doesn't hurt her head and these would be perfect.
Thanks Meze and Innerfidelity for this opportunity!
These have piqued my curiosity for some time now. I hope I win!
Looks like a great headphone. Hope I'm lucky enough to win!
A great first step for every aspiring DIY modder I'd think. Please count me in :-)
Would love to have these as part of my setup.
These headphones came out of nowhere. And ever since then, I've been quite curious to know how they sound.
They look very nice and from what I understand reproduce music well. I do not, repeat, do NOT wish to be considered as entering this contest. I just wanted to remark upon the beauty of these headphones as shown here on Tyll's site. And no, I am not joking, I do not wish to be entered. Thank you. ORT.
Would like to add this headphone to my portable collection.
Nice... Im in! Reviewed these and really enjoyed them.
This would be a perfect birthday gift. Thank you for the opportunity!
Why disappoint so many people?
The most beautiful headphones ever made in Romania! :)
...even though I never win anything. :(
These are some gorgeous headphones.. Hope I win them
I'm considering buying these gorgeous looking cans. Winning them would make them is even more desirable.
I wonder what earpads it is compatible with.
Once again, it is a shame that a competition like this only caters for residents of the USA. I hope that in the future this changes, as I am a fan of innerfidelity.com and Tyll. And of course, these headphones are a source of lust for me too.
Would love to win a pair. Have these on my radar.
Since having a great pair of headphones is more a desire "need" sounds wrong.
My wife gave me her old Sony cans since my HP50 broke for the second and final time.
the cable connecting the left and right speaker more precise, this time with a bit of help from me, try-ing to fix them myself they died forever.
I miss having a good headphone, to that extent that I call it a need.
No budget this year for headphones unfortunately.
I'd love to hear these. The looks are stunning
see it first on a advertisment, nice headphones!
I wont win but you never know unless you try.
I was recently bitten by the audiophile bug, and these would be a great addition to my small headphone collection.
Thank you for all of your wonderful work on this site. You have guided some headphone purchasing decisions that I have been quite happy about, and always provide a good read.
I like headphones, and I bet I'd like these, too!
Got to try these out and they were pretty good and looked great. Certainly wouldn't mind a pair!
They look fancy and would be a great companion to the every so analytical HF5's on the road!
Would love to get these! My wife was bowled over by the design. Finally, a headphone she can wear that adds to her look!
I've read a lot of positive impressions about these headphones. Would love to give them a try. Good luck to all.
Being a denizen of the antipodes, i.e. located on a large island in the southern hemisphere disqualifies me from entering this august raffle.
All the best to whoever wins this sonic transducer.
I've been eyeballing these for a while. They are lovely. I'd love to try them out.
Will these be with the larger ear pads?
"Wood" did you say? Oh man, those headphones surely look classy. Good luck to myself. :-D
I so so so want a pair of these beauties!!
Fingers crossed! If selected i promise to send a write up of my thoughts with photos!!
Peace .n. Living in Stereo
Pick me, save those around me from enjoying my music with me as I share with them with my open backed headphones.
That's gonna be tough!
Great all-rounder headphones in its price range.
These would look good in my listening room
Like I really NEED ANOTHER PAIR OF HEADPHONES, BUT I'LL TAKE THEM IF I'm THE LUCKY WINNER.
probably has a lighter sound. lol
I hope we can all agree that I should win the headphones. Thanks for your support.
That white pair would look amazing playing from a Schiit stack hooked up to a Mac. Maybe Jason needs to pick up a pair for photography/marketing purposes.
Putting my name in the list. Not expecting anything, but you miss 100% of the shots you never take!
I have tried the NAD VisoHP50. Immensely enjoyed the sound, but the earcups and band were too big and didn't fit on my head at all. I saw that the Meze 99 Classics knocked the NAD's off. I am on a budget with a wife who doesn't understand why a headphone should cost above 150 USD, much less 300. The Focal Spirit Classics are on sale for 220 USD and I have the go-ahead to buy these, but if I do then I'll have to wait a few years until I get to spend $$ on headphones again. Should I wait to try and maybe buy the Meze 99 Classics for 309$, or just go ahead and get the Focal Classics for 220$? Any suggestions are welcome :)
I hear goood things about these! hopefully i can win...
Looks cool, maybe I'll win a sweepstakes for once
I spent some time listening to these at Canlanta a couple of weeks ago and really enjoyed them. Would love to have a pair of my own.
These are simple, yet beautiful.
Make it a Walnut & Silver (with the new large earpads) for me. Much thanks!
Perhaps some mods could come of it :)
Been looking for a while and would love to hear one.


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The proof of the pudding is in the reading. Yes, the paperback proof copy of Freeze Frame" arrived on Monday. Of course, there were a few issues but I think we are on top of them and all the corrections have been made.
In order to authenticate the existence of an actual new book in the universe, you will see a photo of editor Sparrow in the act of reading it. You may wonder about the figure peering over the chair. I would like to say that it is the bust of a Faber and Faber poetry editor that I had immortalised in concrete. Come to think of it – why not say that? It is not true but if anyone wants to know the truth please leave a comment. Does it remind you of anyone?
Freeze Frame has now been submitted to Smashwords, may I say, not without a lot of geek-squeak. Poor old Jill at Gallo-Romano has been rooted to the keyboard with formatting issues. As a platform, Smashwords is not for the faint-hearted. Watch this space – it won't be long.
I have been working today on the road. All I have heard on cab radio is excited media persons talking about David Bowie releasing a new single to mark his 66th birthday. It is being billed as a significant retrospective by a frail old geezer. I must admit to having been very cheered by the whole circus. Here I am, only a little younger and still looking for a start. When you think about it, that's a good place to be. If you've missed the bowie-wow in the window today,(Obvious reference to death of Patti Page) here is a link.


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Paleo Pancakes - Using Three Ingredients
There has been a lot of buzz lately surrounding the Paleo (short for Paleolithic) diet. Essentially it it is a caveman diet consisting of meat and other hunter/gatherer type foods:
"presumed ancient diet of wild plants and animals that various hominid species habitually consumed during the Paleolithic era—a period of about 2.5 million years duration that ended around 10,000 years ago with the development of agriculture."1
On the Paleo diet you only eat grass-fed pasture raised meats, fish, fruit and veg (including root vegetables like potatoes) and nuts. You are not allowed to eat any grains, legumes, dairy products, refined salt, refined sugar or processed oils.
I am mainly a veggie eater so could never follow a strict Paleo diet but I do like the idea of trying to reduce the amount of grains, dairy products and refined/processed foods/oil that I consumes so I have been looking at Paleo recipes for the last couple of weeks. My Thai Chicken Burgers could easily be made Paleo by replacing the breadcrumbs with almond meal.
One of the recipes I came across is Paleo Pancakes using only three ingredients - egg, banana and almond butter. I love eggs, banana and of course my precious nut butter (on how to make it - see my Nut Butter post), so this seemed like a winning combo.
After reading lots of comments where people had problems making their pancakes (they would crumble and fall apart), I gave it a go being very careful to cook it on a low temperature and turn carefully after around 3-4 minutes. The results were wonderful!
I have a warning for people who don't like cooked banana i.e. banana bread - you won't like these pancakes. My friend who came over to help me make them didn't like the banana so I made an big batch using more eggs, coconut flour and almond meal to mask the flavour of the banana and they eventually also turned out well after a bit of experimenting.
My partner and I ended up eating the leftovers during the week as a high protein snack topped with blended strawberries and stevia and more nut butter - it was like eating peanut butter and jelly pikelets!
What you need to make 2 pancakes:
- one ripe banana
- one organic egg
- one tbsp almond butter
- coconut oil for cooking
For the topping:
- strawberries
- a few drops of liquid stevia
- 1tsp lemon juice
- blueberries (optional)
- maple syrup (optional)
- coconut cream (optional)
Add all of your ingredients for the pancakes to a blender and blend until smooth. Let the pancake batter sit until it is no longer bubbling. Add a small amount of coconut oil to a non-stick frying pan over low heat. Give the batter a quick stir then add a small amount of batter to the pan. You need to make these pancakes small or you can't flip them - they are more like a pikelet size. Wait 3-4 minutes and then carefully flip them over and quickly cook the other side. I find I can do three in the pan at once if I am making a big batch.
While your pancakes are cooking blend some strawberries and stevia until you have a sauce.
Serve the pancakes with the strawberry sauce and coconut cream (optional), or some maple syrup. YUM!
If anyone is interested in the not-so-bananery version of these pancakes please let me know and I will do a follow up post x
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Coconut flour recipe please!
- October 19, 2012 at 4:42 AM
- Tali's Tomatoes said...
Hello and thanks for stopping by! I'll write up a post for the coconut & almond pancakes this week x
- October 21, 2012 at 4:06 AM
amazing amazing, you should be so proud of yr blog i admire yr devotion to healthy ingredients!
- February 5, 2013 at 4:57 PM
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My maternal great grandfather, Joseph Bartram, was a Welshman who immigrated to the United States in the early 1880s. I'm still trying to figure out the whole story, but legend has it that he came here by ship with his father to bring Herefordshire cattle to Kansas. His father headed back home to the UK, but died at sea before he could reach his homeland. Joseph stayed in Kansas, married Alice A. Veale, and they had 17 kids together (including my Grandpa John).
Before they moved from Kansas to California in around 1930, Joseph and Alice had quite a spread in Plumb, Wabaunsee County, Kansas. Fortunately for me, I was able to find the Kansas Memory website (I love the Internet!) which had, available for download, a 1902 plat map that showed exactly where Joseph's farm sat in relation to his neighbors, as well as how many acres he held. It also shows, with a little dot, where the house stood on the farm. This is the house where Grandpa John grew up! My Aunt Brenda said that she's been out to where the old farm stood but, sadly, there's not much left.
|The Bartrams lived in Plumb Township, Wabaunsee County, Kansas
|Joseph's farm is near the bottom left of the top map. See below for detail.
|You can see that the Bartrams had two parcels at a total of 180 acres.
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In his presentation at Sun Tech Days recently in Washington, Sun Microsystems technical evangelist Raghavan Srinivas illustrated the advantage of writing some preliminary code in a scripting language. He presented a small program that adds three names to a list and then identifies all the names on the list that are have more than three letters. Written in Java, such a program would require about 12 lines of meaningful code:
To write the same function in Ruby, you'd need to write only this:
'You can see that instead of a page of code, you end up with two or three lines of code,' said Srinivas. He did note, though, that there is a trade-off. Because Ruby 'is very expressive,' it might be difficult for the Java programmer to understand what is going on in a set of code. 'If you don't follow what is going on, it might be doing something it is not supposed to,' he said. ' Joab Jackson
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At a press conference Thursday, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner revealed that all 20 of the country's biggest banks had tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2006.
At a press conference Thursday, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner revealed that all 20 of the country's biggest banks had tested positive for performance-enhancing drugs in 2006.
The news — the latest in a string of damaging revelations about the reckless and ethically questionable manner in which the once revered institutions have operated over the last several years — hit shareholders particularly hard.
"I thought all those numbers were real and now I have to accept they weren't, that it was all one big lie. Frankly I feel betrayed," said one shareholder, while taking a pause in a game of pickup Monopoly with his 6-year-old son in a park area on the Liberty Street grounds of The Federal Reserve Bank of New York. "I just don't think I can trust this business anymore. What am I going to tell my son? It hurts me to say it, but I think I am going to have to tell him to try out for one of the Canadian banks. The money isn't as good, but at least he can feel good about himself and what he is doing."
The revelation that many of the biggest names in banking had achieved their greatness and record earnings with the aid of performance-enhancing drugs appeared to anger fans of banking more profoundly than any of the other reported misdeeds that had preceded it.
Hordes of CitiGroup season shareholders gathered outside the company's corporate headquarters on Park Avenue in New York on Thursday and burned their stock certificates in a ceremonial protest.
"This is just the last straw," said one member of the protest group, the self-described "Slum Dog Investornaires." "I could put up with consolidated debt obligations, irresponsible lending practices, even bank nationalization. What I can't bear is this mentality of cheating to get an unfair edge. It has sullied the business forever in my eyes and I wash my hands of it."
Others worried that in cultivating their own Faustian deal, the banking businesses may have taken the industry down a dark, soulless road from which there was no turning back.
"Back when I was in the business, banks played hard and were always trying to get an edge, but cheating was not an option," said one retired banking executive. "They cared too much about the business to do anything like that. But the banks in the business today don't care about the purity of it. They only care about themselves. There is too much money in the business and it is spoiling it for everyone."
A similar tone of lost innocence resonated in neighborhoods across America, where youngsters had looked up to these banks as heroes and their parents had regarded the towering financial institutions as worthy role models.
That these 20 big banks, the highest-paid in the business and widely viewed as the most talented, have tested positive while rolling up billions of dollars in profits for investors and company executives, has not only damaged their public reputation but their chances of entering The Masters of the Universe Hall of Fame in the Cayman Islands.
The big banks had long denied any use of performance-enhancing substances. Still, the disclosure that they had tested positive in 2006 did not come as a shock to people in banking. Fairly or unfairly, the big banks' names have been linked more than once to possible drug use, if for no other reason than the tremendous profit numbers they had produced.
Last year, the former slugger José Canseco produced his third book on steroid use, this one focusing on the banking industry. In the book — "In Tranched" — he asserted that the big banks, in the late 1990s, expressed interest in steroids and that Canseco then introduced the banks to a trainer who was familiar with performance-enhancing drugs. Canseco said that the trainer later told him that the banks had "signed on," implying that big banks had begun using performance enhancers.
In a joint statement, the big banks reiterated their claims that they weren't certain that what they had been doing was wrong.
"Our mistake was being mature and smart," the banks said. "For a week we kept looking for another bank to blame, but they kept on failing. "
"We should have seen it," said one observer. "I mean what did we think happened. One year they are regular banks and the next they suddenly have those misshapen investment ideas and those bulging debt-to-equity ratios. It just wasn't natural."
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by Shaun Chamberlin on December 26th, 2008
I spent a few hours this Christmas watching former Pfizer Vice President Chris Martenson's Crash Course, which undertakes the daunting task of presenting the overarching interplay of economics, energy and environment in today's world, and doing it in a friendly, accessible way. He does an impressive job, and it's all broken down into easily digestible videos from 2-15 minutes long.
His simple indisputable explanations of topics such as why economic growth does not equal prosperity are invaluable, but most impressive to me was the clarity with which Chris distinguishes between his own beliefs and the facts he is sharing which have shaped those beliefs. For example, he states up front his belief that "the next twenty years are going to be completely unlike the past twenty years", and then shows us just which facts have led him to that belief. It becomes hard to disagree. Read more »


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Stakes are high in men's WTS Hamburg
By Erin Greene on 09/07/14 at 9:01 am
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While the men's races have historically been a three-man show with Javier Gomez Noya (ESP and the Brownlee brothers consistently dominating the podium, that story hasn't played out to expectation so far this year. But all of the big players will meet in Hamburg for a mighty quick splash and dash sprint race that promises to be a nail-biter.
So you think you can sprint
With half the distance to work with, there's half as many opportunities to drop the competition and no room for errors. As we saw in London, you've got to be firing on all cylinders at all times if you want a chance to medal. Mario Mola (ESP), Richard Murray (RSA) and Joao Pereira (POR) used what fast twitch fibers they posses to push the pace ahead of the usual podium toppers. And while their records in sprint distances speak for themselves, their results in Olympic distance races are gaining attention, as well.
But don't count the likes of Gomez, Alistair Brownlee (GBR) and Jonathan Brownlee (GBR) out. It was in this race last year that all three of those men reigned supreme yet again, with Jonathan flying past his own brother in the final meters for the win.
Hamburg history
It's no shocker that Gomez is the most successful man in this race that's on the start list, having won the World Triathlon Hamburg once and podiumed another three times. Of those lining up on Saturday, only Jonathan and Murray have also earned the accolade as the fastest man in Hamburg, with Jonny winning last year and Murray taking the top honour in 2012.
This stop on the Series is one of the few that Alistair hasn't scored a win in, making Saturday's race a dangerous one. Taking into account that amongst the men slated to compete this weekend only Steffen Justus (GER) and Alexander Bryukhankov (RUS) has made it into the top three here in Hamburg, the odds aren't looking in everyone else's favor.
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While he looked primed to continue his hot season that include silver medals in Auckland and Cape Town, Jonathan faltered slightly in Yokohama when he missed the podium for the first time in years. The same unfortunate fate awaited him on home soil in London where he finished fifth. Forced to delay the start of his season until Yokohama, brother Alistair also missed the podium in both Japan and London.
But make no mistake about it, those temporary setbacks will certainly only serve to make the Brownlees hungrier than ever. They sat Chicago out and, if their twitter feeds are any indicator, got some solid training done. It remains to be seen if that training will set them up nicely in Hamburg or pay off in Glasgow at the end of the month, but no matter what happens, rest assured this family will perform.
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In the months and weeks leading up to the election, I had been thinking about the situation this country is in by likening it to being on a crashing plane. On the one hand, we had the current pilot who wasn't able to control the plane, and the fact that it was crashing was due in large part to his piloting incompetence. On the other hand, we had a passenger who had a great deal of piloting experience, who was volunteering to take the controls. In his previous piloting experience, this volunteer had saved another plane from crashing. If we could get him in the pilot seat, well, we may have still crashed–the situation was definitely dire–but there was at least a possibility that we'd end up relatively okay… alive and standing on the wings of the downed plane in the Hudson River, a la Chessley Sullenberger, if you will.
I really thought that our fellow passengers would come to realize our plight, and vote to put an experienced pilot at the controls. But I was wrong. Far far too many of us either don't see how dire are the straits we are in, or have convinced themselves, despite overwhelming proof to the contrary, that more of the same policies will keep us aloft.
So I have had to re-think my analogy. Now, the plane we are flying in is headed straight toward the Statue of Liberty. It is being piloted by a man who wants to radically transform this country. He knows exactly what he is doing. The cockpit door is locked, and this pilot has Czars and Cabinet Secretaries with boxcutters standing guard. Many of us realize that this is a one-way trip, and that we won't get out of it without a huge crash and terrible things happening. But once you realize you're definitely going to crash, the way you crash, well, it matters a great deal.
So here we are, just over half a nation of free-stuff moochers; just under half a nation of Todd Beamers. I'm hoping that all of us Todd Beamers will have the courage to do whatever it takes to avoid having our plane crash into and demolish the most potent symbol of freedom in the world.
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1. Situation with my kite
Vegas 2011 12m² was still in very good condition. Kite began to fall on one side from zenith. Inspection shows significant change in shape of leading edge. It turns out, that kite has production defect and needs to be replaced by warranty.
Communication with North revealed another problem — serial number was cutted off before sale of kite.
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2. KBA response
2.1. This kite behavior is normal and happens to all brands. Since the kite was used for more than one month, it can lose its shape and become unbalanced.
Lie. Kite doctor in Boracay says, this is very rare situation and kite has serious flaws in production. Philippines distributor inspection confirmed errors in production. North confirmed warranty claim and added, that such behavior is unusual for a kite.
2.2. Warranty on all North kites is 3 month only.
Lie. You can check in kite User guide that warranty is 6 month. You can have +6 month extended warranty, but since SN was cutted off, that was not my case.
2.3. Kite comes with serial number cutted off from factory
Lie. All products from North are coming with serial number. If you don't have SN, you will never get warranty.
3. North response and final solution
We was in touch with guys from North since the beginning of this story. In the end they agreed to replace my broken kite with a new one. I want to thank Christian, Philipp, Dan, Normeth and Willem for this good solution! Nice move to keep customers happy and brand image solid.
4. Good summary from Dan-at-North
5. Prices from KBA are hereAlso for the record, his kite was not admissible for warranty, and the resolution was done at the cost and through the goodwill of North international and several distributors. Thanks to everyone involved.
Please read the following before purchasing if you have reason to suspect that your dealer, like KBA, is not an authorized NKB dealer and is getting either factory second or full-on knock-off North gear.
Just to reiterate: KBA, in Thailand, is NOT an official North dealer. North does not sell them gear, and any North gear that they have is unauthorized, almost certainly flawed, and will not be approved for warranty repair or replacement. They have somehow found a way to get B and C grade factory rejects or knock-offs from a different factory. We do our best to control this kind of thing, and we are trying to track down how they are getting these, but even Apple, who spends millions on stopping this kind of leakage, suffers similar problems on occasion.
As it is, please do not purchase North items from anyone but an official authorized North dealer. If you do, realize that you do so at your own risk. Warranties require both a serial number and a receipt from an authorized dealer specifically for this reason. No matter what a dealer tells you, if you do not have a serial number and a receipt from an authorized dealer, North will not approve you for warranty. It should be fairly easy to tell an authorized dealer from a non, but you can always check http://www.northkites.com for a list of authorized dealers or you can even drop me a note with a specific dealer question. You should also use your brain. If there are two dealers in an area, and one is selling a North kite for significantly less than another, you may want to do a little additional research. I understand that you want to save money, but realize that if your cheaper kite does not come with a serial number and a receipt from an authorized dealer, it is not only un-warranteeable, but it is also most probably a factory second with some sort of flaw that will leave you with a costly or even, as in this case, impossible repair.
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Most of the prices are only slightly cheaper, than price from authorized dealers in Asia. KBA are clearly trying to cheat on its customers, selling B-grade products with small discount to genuine products.
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Thom Browne is a small American brand that's highly influential in the worlds of menswear and suiting, which means Browne's is probably not the first name anyone thinks of when it comes to handbags. The brand has made a small selection of totally gorgeous, impeccably made doctor bags for years, though, and they were a largely under-the-radar pick of people in the know. Then Browne started getting a little cheeky with his accessories, and that's when legendary fashion critic Cathy Horyn took notice.
Horyn carried one of Browne's dog-shaped bags to fashion week and got a ton of attention for it, and in a perhaps-related decision, Browne has decided to lean in to the dachshund bag fun for Resort 2017. New versions of the bags feature prominently in the collection's lookbook, alongside some of Browne's much more traditional older designs.
I'm as sick of novelty bags as anyone, but if anyone can do it in a way that doesn't make me cringe, it's Thom Browne. His brand is known for it's quirky touches layered on seriously well-made and well-designed clothing and accessories, which means that the end product feels luxurious as well as fun. The bags would be hard to pull off, but you'd know for sure that you were carrying the finest dog-shaped bag in all the world.
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Bardhwyn rode hard out of Amon Sul, harder than she ought but her horse, Courage, was keen - always keen - to run at a gallop whenever able. Her head ached fiercely and her bruised ribs burned down the left side of her chest and with every strike of Courage's leading leg it felt as if her spine were jamming itself up into her skull. She marvelled that she was still alive.
A cold drizzle began to fall and with Courage's speed the the rain lashed into her eyes, mixing with the hot tears she'd been fighting. Bardhwyn eased her horse back to a trot and desperately tried to collect herself. Tears? They were a luxury she couldn't afford; she didn't deserve! They were something other women were allowed, not her. Her reasoning failed her and the tears pressed in.
Gavin's face came to her once again. She remembered his fear, the tears of fright streaming down his scarred and branded face, of him begging her to help him just as the coarse sack was dropped over his head followed by the rope. He was sixteen and branded a traitor because he had deserted and deserted because he was lured into the army at too young an age with empty promises of coin and glory. He came to Clan Harlond as so many had; out of desperation.
He never once said her name. He could have easily betrayed her but he didn't. Gavin died keeping her secret.
She looked down at the thick, black satchel that hung at her hip; inside it a mine of information - a treasure trove! Maps, plans, rosters, letters. Had Gavin called her by name the same mob would have descended upon her, she would have never discovered the assasin's den - for that is what these black clad men were, assasins - they were too skilled and too dangerous to be mere soldiers - she would have never found these documents and come to understand what had to happen next.
If it were not for Gavin, Bardhwyn would have never woken up.
If it weren't for Calmacil and his half-brother, Cyrion, Bardhwyn would never had survived. They were safe and alive, however, back in Amon Sul ...
"Thank you," she breathed, blinking up to the grey, drizzled sky. "Thank you all..."
More of the cold rain mixed with hot tears. She buried her face into her red, cold hands and sobbed, resisting the urge to crumple over and succumb to the press of the memories that threatened to overwhelm her: memories of the last few days jostled with the reclaimed memories of the past several weeks - of Calmacil and Cyrion taking her on, keeping her safe, of squabbling over her, of them fighting and lying for her.
The recollections of the generosity she had met followed, memories of strangers giving with open hands and hearts. There were older memories, too, of running, of hiding and of the bitterest hunger she could ever remember. The oldest memory was one of being pushed into her saddle by Thar, who she could barely see for the blood that streamed into her eyes; her blood. "Ride, hard! Go! Get out of here!" he yelled, slapping Courage into a run with the flat of his sword. He could well be dead, now.
Most frightening of all, however, was her recollection of the horror that came with the not-knowing; not knowing who she was or where she came from. Not knowing the places she wandered or the people she met. She had been empty, flat, devoid of a sense meaning and purpose and that terror still hovered about her, like a shadow that threatened to descend and attach itself at any moment. The thought made her shudder. What surprised her more, however, was seeing into the dark part of her heart that wished the oblivion would return and take her; all black and bottomless.
She howled, long and loud, her voice careening and ricocheting among the young trees and thick brush of the forest she'd stopped before.
"I WILL NOT BE BROKEN!" she screamed, pumping her curled fist into the sky. "DO YOU HEAR?! NEVER!!" She pressed her hands to her face once again. "I won't, I can't, I can't..." she murmured into her wet palms.
She pulled her hands away, raised her head and breathed in the morning air hoping its freshness would shift the jagged, shattered feeling she was left with.
A fleck of movement caught her eye.
She'd stopped her horse at the top of a small but gradual rise that afforded her a bit of perspective over the landscape; before her a new forest had taken root, behind her lay the gradual decline of scrub and brush land that was east of Amon Sul. She could see there, far in the distance, two riders on horseback traveling fast in her direction and she knew immediately who they were; Calmacil and Cyrion. Where she was going she did not want them to follow - for the sake of their lives.
"Damn Fool Idiots!" she spat. "You have no idea what you're doing...!! Argh!!" She took up the reins to her mount and spoke to him in a language she rarely uttered and using her mount's first name: "Noro Róvan Elethril!! Noro!*"
Courage reared and pawed the air with his hooves before leaping into the full gait of a gallop. Together they sped northeastwards.
*Run hard, Elethril! Run!"


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