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Posted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 08:48
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Dotpet Package of Motion (Webcam Video Surveillance)
Subject description: Now updated to current version with HOWTO on compile and making dotpet
EDIT 15 Oct 2013: Note well that the attached dotpets are for very old versions of Motion. Some more recent compilations of motion can be found later in this thread and probably elsewhere on the forum.
Dotpet for motion-3.2.8 Video Surveillance application
plus mini-howto on its compilation and construction
Author: William McEwan (mcewanw). Revision 1, 10Sept2007
[ Please also refer to the new Puppy Linux Wiki page on the Motion Video Surveillance project at:
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Motion ]
Please find download link for motion-3.2.8.pet at the foot of this message.
This update includes motion detection capturing of avi as well as jpeg images plus considerably more functionality. It has been compiled from the original sources.
I have kept the original information at the bottom of this message, concerning the earlier motion-3.1.19.pet for completeness, but I strongly advise upgrading to the more advanced, but equally easy to use, motion-3.2.8 as soon as possible.
I've just discovered a nice article on setting up Motion and webcams in general by Mark Alexander Bain entitled "CLI Magic: Getting into Motion" at http://www.linux.com/articles/114118
For attitional information you might also want to refer to my recent but rough HOWTO: Manually get your webcam and/or TV card working at: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=21464
For an alternative, sophisticated video surveillance solution, which uses the "zoneminder" video surveillance package (from http:://www.zoneminder.com), you might like to try the Puppy Watchdog distribution available via: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/WatchDog
motion-3.2.8 compile notes and dotpet mini-howto:
[Compiled and created on Puppy Linux 2.17.1 with devx_217.sfs loaded, and then packaged as a dotpet using dir2pet].
I have created a new dotpet for the Motion video surveillance application. This dotpet, motion-3.2.8.pet, is for the current version of motion (as of Sept 2007) and includes ffmpeg support (so it can produce avi videos as well as jpegs) but not mysql support. If you have mysql installed on your system, and would like Motion to use that, it is a simple matter to recompile the application (just follow the steps below; the straightforward compilation procedure will automatically detect your mysql libraries). For my compilation, for ease of later upgrade, I have faithfully kept to the installation procedure, and associated install directories, recommended at motion's website:
For the moment, you will find the new dotpet, motion-3.2.8.pet, via the link provided at the bottom of this thread message.
Though, you simply need to install the dotpet to get motion working correctly (assuming your webcam driver is already installed), I have briefly detailed below the procedure I used compiling the package (just prior to producing the dotpet). Hopefully, this may help you should you wish for any reason to recompile the application yourself. Please refer to my earlier "HOWTO:Manually get your webcam and/or TV card working" (at: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=21464) for more general information concerning getting your webcam itself working.
That howto also points you to an older version of motion, motion-3.1.19.pet, should you want to try that as an alternative. Note, however, that motion-3.2.8 provides superior facilities to motion-3.1.19 and is equally easy to use.
My compilation steps follow for your information (but remember, you don't need them, just install the provided dotpet...):
cd /usr/local
wget -c http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/motion/motion-3.2.8.tar.gz?download
tar -xvzf motion-3.2.X.tar.gz
[or use, for example, Xarchive to decompress the tar.gz to /usr/local]
ln -s motion-3.2.8 motion [a symbolic link made for convenience]
cd motion
[Note: now in directory /usr/local/motion-3.2.8]
make install
RESULT OF make install:
* Configure status *
OS : Linux
pthread Support: Yes
jpeg Support: Yes
V4L included: Yes
V4L2 supported: Yes
FFmpeg Support: Yes
MYSQL Support: No
PostgreSQL Support: No
Note: When you run it, the motion program automatically looks in /usr/local/etc/ for the text file motion.conf (its configuration file). Since you now have a backup (motion-dist.conf), you can edit motion.conf as much as you desire. Refer to motion's website for details of motion.conf's format:
[At this stage I edited /usr/local/etc/motion.conf and changed "the Start in daemon (background) mode" parameter to off]
If you haven't already done so, you should now install the driver module for your webcam. For example, I installed vabene06's dotpet: gspcacav1-20070508-i586.pet, which automatically places the correct driver module for my own webcam, gspca.ko, into /lib/modules/18.104.22.168/kernel/drivers/usb/media. You can get vabene06's dotpet from forum thread:
Then you need to register the new driver module with the system and load it and the videodevice up by entering the commands:
depmod -a
modprobe videodev
modprobe gspca
[the above line will need altered to refer to your own driver module]
You can now start the motion video surveillance application by entering:
[or simply: /usr/local/motion/motion
because of the symbolic link made earlier
Note that, an intermediate shell script, /root/.motion/motion.sh, is used in the final dotpet to start the applicaton].
On detecting motion, the jpeg and/or avi images will by default be captured into /usr/local/apache2/htdocs/cam1. You can change that behaviour by editing /usr/local/etc/motion.conf, altering the line starting with the words target_dir to point to wherever you want to store the jpegs etc.
When running in this non-daemon mode you can stop motion running by pressing Ctrl-C. You can alternatively always stop it by finding the process id using, for example, either top or ps, and entering: kill <that process id>
Apart from editing /usr/local/etc/motion.conf, to whatever behaviour you desire, everything is now installed. You should, if you wish, consult motion's website manual for details regarding the alterable configuration parameters in motion.conf. You will find the complete manual at: http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/MotionGuide
For your convenience, however, the dotpet I produced to avoid your having to go through all the above steps
includes a JWM Menu icon and entry:
Menu > Multimedia > Motion-3.2.8 Video Surveillance
That menu item calls up a tiny shell script I have written, /root/.motion/motion.sh, which runs the motion application from a new rxvt shell (unless daemon mode has been turned on in motion.conf).
Further notes: PRODUCING THE DOTPET
You might be interested in how the actual dotpet itself was produced.
After compiling motion-3.2.8 and getting it all working, I created another empty directory called motion-3.2.8 elsewhere on my system (anywhere I had space). Then I created a dummy directory structure mimicking where I wanted the bits and pieces of motion to end up. That is, I created:
(a) [dummy]motion-3.2.8/usr/local/ and
(b) [dummy]motion-3.2.8/usr/local/etc/
[dummy] here just stands for the actual path where I stored the originally empty container directory motion-3.2.8
I then copied the tested-as-working /usr/local/motion-3.2.8/ directory into (a),
and /usr/local/etc/ into (b) [only the bits to do with motion]
Finally, I created the file motion-3.2.8.pet by entering the command:
dir2pet [dummy]motion-3.2.8
[I basically chose the defaults to any questions asked by dir2pet, though I selected menu icon mini-eye.xpm, when asked for such].
Good luck making your own dotpets too!
Original thread message concerning motion version 3.1.19 follows:
The following is the contents of the attached readme.txt for the package:
motion-3.1.19 Video Surveillance Tool
Packaged for puppy linux by: William McEwan (puppy linux member mcewanw). Revision 1, 05sep2007
Home Webpage for Motion: http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome
This puppy linux pet is was produced from the original Damn Small Linux compilation found at: http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/mydsl/multimedia/motion.tar.gz dated: 04/14/2005
[Thanks are due newOldUser of the DSL community. The application looks for its config file motion.conf in /home/knoppix or in ~/.motion so perhaps the source originally comes from the knoppix distribution?]
For ease of future upgrade, I have tried to keep the directory structure of my installation pet for motion as close to the original DSL installation as possible.
This is a simple compilation of motion which, for ease of installation, has been stripped of mysql and ffmpeg operability.
However, there is nothing to stop a more complex compilation, with more facility, being successful on puppy linux.
Some Details:
I extracted motion.tar.gz into a single directory motion-3.1.19
I then created the directory motion-3.1.19/root/,motion and moved motion.conf from motion-3.1.19/home/dsl into there so that the application motion would be able to find motion.conf post-installation.
I then used dir2pet to produce the puppy linux pet archive motion-3.1.19.pet.
I have arranged for the installation to add a mini-eye.xpm icon and Motion-3.1.19 Video Surveillance entry to the main JWM menu under Multimedia. To make it easier to stop motion running when desired, I use the main menu to start motion via a simple shell script, /root/.motion/motion.sh which opens a controlling rxvt console. The advantage of that method is that it makes it easy to stop motion running when desired by clicking on the console and pressing Ctrl-C. The user can also more easily finetune the start-up procedure, if they wish, by editing motion.sh
This motion-3.1.19.pet archive stores the following files and directories on your system:
/root/.motion/readme.txt [this file]
/root/.motion/motion.conf [the application's configuration file (text)]
/root/.motion/motion.sh [a simple shell script which can be used to start motion in a controlling rxtv shell]
/opt/motion/motion [the main application]
/home/dsl/motion/pics/ [the default location where the captured jpeg images are stored]
/home/dsl/motionScript [?]
/home/dsl/motionTiming.log [?]
Before running motion make sure your webcam is setup and working correctly. Unless you have already arranged that, you may first need to: depmod -a; modprobe videodev; modprobe <your_webcam_driver_module>
This pet does not include any webcam driver modules, you must find the approprate one for your webcam and install that yourself. You may find some useful information related to that in a howto I have written (HOWTO: Manually get your webcam and/or TV card working) and posted to the puppy murga-linux forum at:
To run motion, either:
* click on JWM menu > Multimedia > Motion-3.1.19 Video Surveillance or
* open an rxvt or any commandline window and enter the command: /opt/motion/motion or
* open a file manager window at /root/.motion and single-click on the motion.sh application icon found there or
* open a file manager window at /opt/motion and single-click on the motion application icon found there
The first three of these method have the advantage that you can easily press keys Ctrl-C to stop motion running. Alternatively, you can always use the command top (or ps) to obtain the process id of the running motion application and then enter kill <that process id> to terminate it.
After installation, motion is initially configured to store the jpeg images it captures in the directory /home/dsl/motion/pics. If you wish them to be stored in a different directory, edit /root/.motion/motion.conf and change the line starting with target_dir to wherever you wish your images to go.
Refer to http://www.lavrsen.dk/twiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome for detailed information on using motion and for detailed help on understanding and modifying its configuration file motion.conf
You can download motion-3.x.x.pet from http://dotpups.de/dotpups/Multimedia/MotionVideoSurveillance/
or you can use the links below to download from this forum.
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Posted: Wed 05 Sep 2007, 08:52
Post subject: Okay, here is the md5sum for the above motion .pet package
Oh... it got there, so please now find attached the md5sum for the above motion video surveillance .pet:
md5sum for motion-3.2.8.pet
md5sum for motion-3.1.19.pet
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Posted: Mon 10 Sep 2007, 15:16
Post subject: Major Upgrade to Current Version of Motion 3.2.8
Please find dotpet in this major upgrade to motion-3.2.8.pet along with some details on the compilation process and creation of the dotpet.
William of Alba
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Posted: Sun 16 Sep 2007, 02:08
Post subject: New Puppy Wiki page for Motion
Please also refer to the new Puppy Linux Wiki page on the Motion Video Surveillance project at:
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Posted: Sun 16 Sep 2007, 03:24
Post subject:
have placed you on the Wiki Community News
Look forward to trying this and the new Watchdog
being wiki based - all new project news welcome
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Posted: Tue 18 Sep 2007, 07:47
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Just saying hi.
I have been using 'motion' under Grafpup since Spring 2007 and previously on a NSLU2 running Openslug.
I'm quite familiar with the motion program so can offer configuration help or tips if needed. I run a 3 IP camera system myself.
I've also written a couple of patches for motion (Kenneth's Wiki has a separate section for patches, so if Motion doesn't quite act how you want, you can submit additional program code in the form of a patch). My user name over there = SimonW.
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Posted: Tue 18 Sep 2007, 21:17
Post subject: Excellent
That's great Simon.
Feel free to add to the Wiki page with any information you think might be useful:
Puppy user hushpuppy, who created the Watchdog iso (uses zoneminder) is considering taking a closer look at Motion for his purposes. He might well be interested in your help too.
William (mcewanw)
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Posted: Tue 18 Sep 2007, 22:02
Post subject: sqlite?
One thing I have been wondering about Simon. I know Motion can be compiled to work with mysql. However, Puppy Linux 2.17.1 seems to come with sqlite3 (version 3.3.5). Do you know if that could be usefully used with Motion at all? Would maybe save having to install mysql, for example, in order to get database functionality of some sort.
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Igo AtM
Joined: 16 Nov 2006
Posts: 25
Location: UK
Posted: Sun 11 Nov 2007, 01:41
Post subject: Motion and Sqlite
Subject description: Working version of Motion and Sqlite3 (beta)
I have been working for some time on a embeded motion server using puppy and motion I currently have a functioning version of Motion intergrating sqlite3 Setup is
puppy 2.17
motion 3.2.9
sqlite 3-0.5
I have pet packaged it as far as new2dir but have no idea how to upload it if anyone would like it please advise
As for details it has been running for many months with motion 3.2.8 and have recently recompiled with 3.2.9 which captures motion in a far better manner. The sqlite part which I have embeded into the motion code will auto generate valid sqlite tables via the normal motion configure options/file. The whole thing is part of a web interface for motion that I have been playing with for many months. for those intrested a sample image is attatched
Add from query Making a (UTL User Time Line) with motionMon CSS beta version
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Posted: Sun 11 Nov 2007, 06:09
Post subject: Re: Motion and Sqlite
Subject description: Working version of Motion and Sqlite3 (beta)
Igo AtM wrote:
. . . I currently have a functioning version of Motion intergrating sqlite3 Setup is
puppy 2.17
motion 3.2.9
sqlite 3-0.5
I have pet packaged it as far as new2dir but have no idea how to upload it if anyone would like it please advise
. . . The whole thing is part of a web interface for motion that I have been playing with for many months. for those intrested a sample image is attatched
It would be great if you could upload your pet package of the above. I'd certainly like to give it a spin!
I imagine the package is over the limits for posting directly to this forum (1 MByte max I believe), however, you could create a folder for it under your name on servage, ftp your pet there, and then send a private forum message to MU to ask him to store it at dotpups.de.
Ask MU if he would store it alongside the previous Motion uploads, but in its own subdirectory:
The versions I uploaded a while ago are stored in subdirectories Motion-3.1.19 and Motion-3.2.8, with the respective pet names of motion-3.1.19.pet and motion-3.2.8.pet. I also ftp'd md5sums for them plus short readme files.
You will find the information about how to upload at the following thread, and what MU needs to know about the package (just a couple of lines in a readme):
It would also be good if you could add info about your package to the Wiki page concerning Motion at http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Motion
Check the Wiki help pages for the procedure to obtain a password for editing Wiki pages, or ask Lobster about it. As the Wiki page explains, raffy should sort you out with the password.
Looking forwards to hearing more!
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Posted: Thu 15 Nov 2007, 13:02
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How does this compare to Watchdog ?
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Post subject: upload
IgoAtM, please check your mail (see link above this page) for your wiki account. That will enable you to modify pages there.
For uploading, please use ftp://puppy:email@example.com/
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Igo AtM
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Posted: Tue 20 Nov 2007, 21:49
Post subject: Motion with SQLite3 pet
Subject description: Pre release of pet package of LiteMon motion with sqlite3 embeded
Tis taken me some time to get back on this but at last I think I have a portable package of the motion/sqlite pet. I have run it via a number of installation configurations and it seems to hold up but This is my first package so at the bottom end of the learning curve.
I have more on the way
php-sqlite3.pet (connects sqlite to php without the pdo pear overhead)
motionMon the main reason for all this and the GUI to motion
sqlitedbms a light weight sqlite user interface
plus others to offer a complete monitoring solution that should be capable of running on an embedded puppy system (such as micro client jnr)
I have a version of the pet running on a Thinkpad 600 300Mhz with 196M ram
and this is prior to profiling the php for hangs and it seems to be able to deal with it all so its looking promising.
for now I'm attaching the pet here which is just the pre compiled version which I built on the Thinkpad as it should be upward portable
I will post the other elements soon Docs and source as pets
then turn my attention to the wiki when I have some feed back on issues with this version
The package should install as a pet (it includes as a requirement ffmpeg )
the version I used came in two parts off the site here
to run it at an open terminal just type motion.sh and it should guide you from there
more details can be obtained by using the option motion.sh notes
hope you enjoy
below is the md5 for the package
1cf134c21fb291ad684170373a549a3e litemon-3.2.9-i486.pet
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Posted: Wed 21 Nov 2007, 03:12
Post subject: Re: Motion with SQLite3 pet
Subject description: Pre release of pet package of LiteMon motion with sqlite3 embeded
Igo AtM wrote:
Tis taken me some time to get back on this but at last I think I have a portable package of the motion/sqlite pet.
Sounds like you've been busy working hard on this. I'm looking forwards to trying it out when I find some time. It will be great to see the extra GUI/monitoring parts once you have them finished.
I've been working flat out too on a (highly-compressed sound) recording project which I'm hoping might eventually, in customised form, be useful for integrating with Motion too. Hopefully I'll be able to integrate it with your build (if I ever get it finished that is...). Actually, my main project is nothing to do with sound recording per se; it's really a general purpose control and communication interface for certain types of commandline utilities which just happens to include some sound recording utilitites I've also interested in.
I originally started my sound-related project because of Motion though; I recognised that Motion could be used to record sound on the detection of movement too, and felt that would be a nice additional facility, so I decided to build an easily controlled sound recording app with that purpose in mind. However, I recognised that a more general purpose control interface would be even more useful, which is what I'm hoping to produce (so not just for Motion). Anyway, I won't say more about that since I have long to go with it still.
More generally, I really think Motion is a great app and I'm quite excited by the GUI image you published in your previous post; looks like you are putting together a nice front-end GUI management console for it; really useful! It will be interesting to see how the overall system compares (once more complete) to forum member hushpuppy's "Watchdog" Puppyv2.16 iso (which uses zoneminder for its main functionality). There is merit I feel in both approaches. I haven't used zoneminder, though hushpuppy suggests it is more sophisticated than Motion overall. However, I tend to think of Motion itself as a very flexible engine, which is useful for building any complexity of system desired; just a matter of bolting on the extra functionality (Linux/UNIX lends itself to that philosophy of course).
The Watchdog iso-based approach, I feel, is good for producing a fully pre-configured dedicated video surveillance system (just switch it on and go...), whereas the "Motion" dotpet approach has the advantage of easy portability and upgrade (with as much or as little pre-configuration as you like).
In any case, the more alternative solutions the better! With active projects like these, Puppy Linux is well-placed to become a leading distribution in the video-surveillance domain generally; it is small, efficient and modular, so perfect for building complex dedicated systems like these.
I doubt you've had time to add anything to the Wiki about your work as yet, but it will be good to update (and polish) the docs concerning Motion on Puppy there, once everything is more complete and ready. I also look forward to the day people inevitably start publishing examples of how they are using these Puppy solutions in their homes and businesses! That's always fun to see.
It was good to hear from you again (I was wondering and hoping that would happen but I recognised that you had a big job on your hand fine tuning and packaging everything together...). Now I had better get back to my own neglected efforts.
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Posted: Thu 22 Nov 2007, 17:10
Post subject: Updates to original pet
Subject description: improved motion.sh and typoes in sql
I am updating the original pet package with a new version with a more comprehensive motion.sh script also more importantly there was a typo in the sql insert statement in the main configuration file. It is not a major change but just adding the colon ie
sqlite_query INSERT INTO security VALUES (%t', .......
should read
sqlite_query INSERT INTO security VALUES ( '%t', .....
this prevented proper parse in the sqlite engine
motion.sh status
should give you some idea of the installation environment and
motion.sh notes
now has a quick start paragraph added
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NEW YORK (AP) - Brook Lopez had 26 points, including consecutive baskets during the game's decisive stretch, and the Brooklyn Nets shut down the Los Angeles Clippers in the fourth quarter for an 86-76 victory Friday night.
Brooklyn outscored Los Angeles 23-13 during a final period in which Chris Paul had no points, two assists and six fouls. Deron Williams didn't have a great game either, but he improved to 14-4 in the longtime rivalry between two of the NBA's top point guards.
Joe Johnson added 19 points for the Nets, who limited the Clippers to 29 points in the second half and got back on track after losing the final two games of a six-game road trip.
Blake Griffin and Paul each had 14 points for the Clippers, who have dropped two in a row following a six-game winning streak. DeAndre Jordan had 12 points and 13 rebounds, and Jamal Crawford finished with 13 points.
Williams had 11 points and eight assists, continuing a shooting slump by going 3 of 10. But the Nets didn't need much with such a strong defensive effort.
They particularly got to Paul, who has trying to bounce back after going 2 of 14 and finishing with nine points and nine assists in a 117-111 loss at Oklahoma City, the first time he had been held to single digits in each statistic in the same game since last April 12.
Each team scored just 38 points in the middle two quarters, but the Nets finally got some offense in the fourth.
Keith Bogans made a 3-pointer to snap a 63-all tie entering the period, and the Nets had the lead until the Clippers scored five straight points to tie it at 74 on Crawford's layup with 4:15 to play.
Gerald Wallace made one free throw with 3:58 remaining, then Lopez had consecutive baskets to make it 79-74 with 3:03 to go. The Clippers turned it over and the ball came to Johnson in the corner after a scramble for an offensive rebound, his 3-pointer making it 82-74. Williams followed with a pair of free throws as the lead hit double digits.
Caron Butler had seven points on 3-of-9 shooting in his return to the Clippers' lineup after missing a game with a right shoulder strain.
The Nets made 11 of 17 shots in the first quarter, but missed their last attempt on the highlight of the period. Williams rose for a dunk attempt but Griffin was way higher for a powerful denial with 17 seconds left, sending Williams tumbling back to the floor and keeping it tied at 25 heading to the second.
It stayed close throughout the second before the Clippers scored the final eight points, starting with a pair of baskets by Griffin, to take a 47-40 lead into the break.
NOTES: On Black Friday, the Nets wore their road black uniforms. ... Fans at the game included Nets part-owner Jay-Z and wife Beyonce, her former Destiny's Child member Kelly Rowland, Billy Crystal and Ray Romano. ... There was a fairly loud chant of 'Overrated! Overrated!' when Griffin went to the line for a pair of free throws in the third quarter. He missed both shots.


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While You Were Munching
You've given thanks for today's grub, and now you're dopey from the soporific effects of holiday gluttony. You've scraped the plates into the garbage disposal and kvetched about fitting all the leftovers in the fridge, or moaned about loosening your belt.
Shopped, cooked, eaten, stowed. Check, check, check, check.
Now add another item to your check list: a much-needed guilt trip.
• Climate change may have contributed to instability in these strife-filled locations: Libya, Mali and the Sahel, the Horn of Africa, Syria.
• Climate change has been and is killing people in Kenya, Ethiopia, and Somalia, even as I type this due to starvation rising from persistent drought and resulting famine.
• Climate change caused the two-day black out for 670 million Indians — that's 1.5 times the population of the U.S., Canada, and Mexico combined without power for two days. Mind-fricking-boggling.
• Climate change effects from 2012 will result in increased food insecurity [PDF] for hundreds of millions of people for the next year and longer. If India didn't have enough water for its crops, where will it buy food for its population? From the U.S. and Canada, which suffered huge crop losses? Even fisheries are negatively impacted.
There, guilt trip. Check.
On Monday after the turkey has worn off and the leftovers are gone, perhaps you'll contact your Congress critter and demand immediate, proactive, and effective policy on climate change right after the turkey doldrums wear off.
Wish you and yours much to give thanks about this holiday.


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Dr. Bob Demaree
Degrees and Schools
- Bachelor of Science in Music w/outside field of Chemistry, Indiana University
- Master of Arts in Choral Conducting, University of Iowa
- Doctor of Musical Arts in Choral Conducting, University of Illinois
Bob Demaree joined the UW-Platteville faculty in 1992. Dr. Demaree conducts the Chamber Choir, the Coro D'Angeli women's choir, and the Singing Pioneers men's choir, and teaches choral conducting, choral literature, and music history. Annual choral area events include the High School Choral Festival, three tours, and performances of major choral/orchestral works. Since 1992, the choral area has sponsored performances and workshops by The Dale Warland Singers, the Severacek Children's Choir, Angelica, Chanticleer (twice), the Moscow State Conservatory Choir, the Jubilate Children's Choir, the Albert McNeil Jubilee Singers, the Spirit Chorale of Los Angeles, and John Wustman. UW-Platteville choristers have also traveled abroad to Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria, England, and Ireland since 2000. In the summer of 2011, he spearheaded a performance trip involving 108 travelers to New York City.
Since 1995, UW-Platteville choirs have been invited to perform five times for the Wisconsin School Music Conference, six times for the Wisconsin Choral Directors Association convention, once for the MENC North Central Division convention, and once for the ACDA North Central Division convention. In addition, UW-Platteville choirs have performed the Mozart Requiem, Stravinsky Symphony of Psalms, Brahms Requiem, Beethoven Missa Solemnis, Verdi Requiem, Handel's Messiah, Beethoven's Symphony #9, Mahler's Symphony #2, Bach's Magnificat, and Haydn's Paukenmesse, Heiligmesse and Schopfungsmesse with orchestra recently. In the fall of 1998, UW-Platteville choirs were invited to perform Scriabin's Prometheus in Chicago's Orchestra Hall with the Kirov Orchestra of the Mariinsky Theatre under the direction of Valery Gergiev. Dr. Demaree organized the commissioning of two works in 2002, a sacred work by John Ferguson and Her Sacred Spirit Soars, a secular work by Eric Whitacre now published by Hal Leonard.
Demaree is active as a clinician, church musician, and adjudicator. In October of 2009, he conducted the WMEA High School Mixed Honors Choir. In 2008, he presented interest sessions at the WCDA state convention, the NCACDA regional convention in Fargo, and at WCDA's Singspiel. In 2006-07, he conducted the North Dakota All-State women's choir and provided workshops or clinics in Illinois, Minnesota, Nebraska, and South Dakota. He also is a founder, artistic director, and singer in the Heartland Singers, a private, professional chorus of 36 musicians from Wisconsin and Iowa.
In 2000, Demaree was awarded UW-Platteville's Outstanding Advisor to a Student Organization Award, and in the fall of 2001, he was named a recipient of the Alliant Energy/Underkofler Award for Teaching Excellence. This prestigious award was one of four given in 2001 to faculty from the Wisconsin System. In July of 2012, he was named President-Elect of the North Central Division of ACDA and will serve as chair of the 2016 conference in Sioux Falls, SD. He is a past president of WCDA, was the chair for their 2004 and 2005 state conventions, and has chaired, hosted, provided sessions or conducted for most of its major projects, including Singspiel, Singing in Wisconsin, and NextDirection. He served on the planning committees for the NCACDA conventions in 2000, 2006, and 2012. In the fall of 2009, Dr. Demaree assumed artistic leadership for the Dubuque Chorale, one of the Midwest's premier community choirs.


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The Knicks first-round pick out of Michigan acknowledges his defensive shortcomings, but the 6-6 swingman has provided an undeniable boost off the bench this season.
Carmelo Anthony was heading up court in transition, but instead of adding to his scoring total, flipped a lob pass to the right side of the rim.Tim Hardaway Jr. leaped and caught the ball along the baseline before flushing it through the hoop, punctuating his 18-point contribution to the Knicks 110-103 win Sunday over the Lakers.
Ive said all along, Tim is ahead of the scale. Hes not your typical rookie, Mike Woodson said. He spent some time in college. His dad (former NBA All-Star Tim Hardaway) obviously has done a hell of a job in coaching him a little bit over the years and working with him on his game.
I was wrong about Hardaway Jr.
I doubted him as a draft pick, thought we had better options at that selection.
What I like about Tim is that his carries himself prideful of the jersey he wears.
When a player proves me wrong, I got to hold on.
Tim's defense is terrible but I believe with the right coaching, he can improve.
Tim's game can expand into a Kevin Martin level if he works on moving without the ball like Reggie Miller. We'll see how he develops.


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Oh yea im almost done.
After the duel go to the stadium where you did the tag duel tornament.Talk to the MC and tell him you're ready.Time to face off against a bastard that you couldnt for a long long time!
deck name:For duel's End!!
deck power:1250
Despite his dam ass ugly as hell face,trudge aint easy.He has quite a few monster removals and he always preps his field and hand for a goyo gurdian synchro summon.A few tips to beat him easy,pack trap cards that kill monsters when they attack(sakuretsu armor,mirror force,dimensional prison etc.),only use them for goyo gurdian,his other monsters are managable,just kill htem via battle.
After the battle,save,then talk to the MC again.Tell him you're ready.
Hunter pace
deck name:wheel on fire!
deck power:1290
Hunter pace packs the 1st ever zombie deck you face on turbo duels.Well,bad news for you,hes pretty hard.Plague spreader zombie,mezuki,ryu kokki,you name it,he has it all.Unlike many of the zombie strategies you have been using,avoid spell cards since speed world is at your disadvantage.Pack more monster removal traps and monsters.
After a fairly challenging match,you're outside again.Save and talk to the MC once again.
deck name:Card bomb!Boom!
deck power:1360
Apparently these fortune cup bastards dont come easy.Heres another annoying customer.He has alot of monster removal packed just for you,so get some handy s/t desturction on the go.He has a summon,magic,trap reactor deck ready for you.They alone arent much of a trouble,but if you are unlucky like me and he manages to get out giant bomber air raid,you're pretty much screwed.
Yes!After the sweet win you're out of the prelimenaries.The game fasts foward a few days which places you back is blister's hideout.After the short talk.head back to the stadium,and you will see luna and leo.Talk to them if you want but if you dont talk to them i dont think it affects the game.Anyway save and talk to MC.Tell him that you're ready.
deck name:fit for a knight
deck power:1420
A disappointing match.How did he even make it past the preliminaries?Anyway,he packs a mystic knight and silent swordsman hybrid deck.Just kill them before they level up and the entire match is smooth sailing.If he uses level up just activate a bottomless trap hole or something.
After the win save in the waiting room,talk to MC again to begin the 2nd match against my favourite character!:)
deck name:cold burning fire
deck power:1450
Ahhhhhhhh!Now shes hot and shes powerful as heck.Her black garden deck has became much stronger.She has stuff like copy plant to let her tune up and synchro some deadly monsters.She still does her camelia trick,expect with many backup cards to prevent its destruction.She has wall of thorns trap card,a bloody gey card that has the same effect as mirror force,so its like she has 3 mirror forces,plus her very own,so 4.GEY.Just try your best and bring many s/t desturction.
After quite a hard fight,save and talk to the MC once more,time for a fight you have been waiting for!
deck name:warriors aligned
deck power:1500
Lol....it seems the real tournament guys are weaker than the preliminary guys(with execption of akiza).I know you have been looking foward to this,but yusei is a disappointment.His deck is just plain dumb,all his monsters are pathetic,the only reason why his difficulty is 2.5,is cuz he has some powerful synchros.Besides all that,hes easy.
After all that,you will pass out and be taken to the crimson dragon altar.Save if you want.At this point,make sure your deck is powerful as heck,cuz the upcoming duels are pure hell.If you need cards head to world championship mode and buy them.My characters,Iris had a lightsworn deck,wil had a tele D.A.D deck.Both won,but iris barely survived with less than 1.5k life points.Anyway,when you're ready,time to face the toughest challenge the game have to offer!You have to win 4 ridiculously hard duels,with 8000 LP!!They wont regenrate after 1 duel,they are carried over!Prepare yourself!
deck name:undead return!
deck power:1550
Another zombie deck...(dam the game sure loves to spam zombie decks).This one is slightly easier than the one you faced with hunter pace.The only problem is that he has some sort of glitch or something.He always seemed to draw zombie world on turn 1,but nevermind.Lightsworn should plunder through this like it is nothing,tele DAD might have slight problems,but with many monster removals its all good.
deck name:cold frozen world
deck power:1550
Hmm,a legendary ocean and ice deck hybrid.It can be troublesome if he manages to stick you in a situation where you cannot attack.Pray that you get your mystical space typhoons or heavy storms when he brings out his gey spells.Lightsworns can win this deck like its nothing,just abuse lynia's ability,or even judgement dragon.Tele DADs shouldnt have a problem if you get dark armed dragon on the field,just abuse his desturction ability.
deck name:just judgement
deck power:1550
Come on everyone,say it with me.I HATE LIGHTSWORNS(not when im using them of course).This guy is nuts.If you are using lightsworns you should know what to expect,he uses gey as hell effects to beath the crap out of you.His lightsworns effects are more than enough to gey you out,let alone thier insane attack points.If you see judgement dragon bottomless trap hole it or something before he uses its effect.Lightsworn decks against this one ranges on how well you built your lightsworn deck,but meh if you are using lightsworn yours should be betther than ganma's.Tele DADs will have problems if you get a good hand.Unlike me,but luckily i dragged the match when i summoned my magical android to heal my Lp to carry over to the next fight.
deck name:dark eq'd dragon
deck power:1550
The strongest tier deck in the game.A tele DAD deck.Seriously unless he gets a bad hand you cant hope to win him.The deck's strategy is to prep the grave for a DAD summoning and removing power dark monsters from play and then re-summonng them via dimension fusion.You may seem like you're winning sometimes but then in 1 turn,he can just kill you.Lightsworn users,this is where you depend on luck,if youre lucky like me then good for you(I had judgement dragon on my field at the last min,and i had around 4.2k LP,so thank god i could still use its effect and live).Tele DAD users,you will just have to see how well your deck is built.I won by summoning DAD and using dark eruption to bring back krebons to synchro summon pyshic lifetrancer,then use DAD's effect to crush all opposition.
After you win,celebrate,the game is as good as clear!!After a short scene,save and go settle 1 last score.
deck name:king's pride
deck power:1580
Bleh,comparing to the lightsworn and tele DAD deck that you just fought,hes a joke.Basically his deck strategy is not known to me,but i think it is the big piece golem-medium piece golem-small piece golem + 1 tuner monster combo.Meh just kill big piece golem and his strategy is destroyed.Overall,quite simple.
After you win,you are the new king!!Enjoy the ending!
Yes!!After months of posting,this project is complete!!I enjoyed this project but it was tiring as well.
2.gamefaqs(helped me when i still had not cleared the game)
3.google(card codes)
Yugioh world championship 2009 guide part 9
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Recommended Anime
- Angel beats
- Anohana:The flower we saw that day
- Another
- Assassination Classroom
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- Code Geass
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- Parasyte -The Maxim-
- Persona 3 The Movie: The Spring Of Birth
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- Shakugan no Shana 3 FINAL
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- The Idolm@ster
- The Pet Girl Of Sakurasou
- To Aru Majutsu No Index:Endymion No Kiseki
- To aru Majutsu no Index Season 2
- Tokyo Ghoul
- Toradora!
Great anime
- Accel World
- Akame Ga Kill
- Akatsuki No Yona
- Amagi Brilliant Park
- Ao no exorcist
- Asura cryin
- Asura cryin 2
- Baccano!
- Barakamon
- Blood Blockade Battlefront
- Boku wa Tomodachi ga sukunai
- Boku Wa Tomodachi Ga Sukunai NEXT
- Btooom!
- Campione
- Classroom Crisis
- Coppelion
- Cross Ange
- D-Frag!
- Danganronpa: The Animation
- Date A Live II
- Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works
- Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works 2
- Freezing
- Gekkan Shojo Nozaki Kun
- Golden Time
- Grimgar Of Fantasy And Ash
- Hagure Yusha No Aestetica
- Hayate no gotoku season 2
- High School DxD
- High School DxD Born
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- Hitsugi No Chaika
- Infinite Stratos
- Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (2012-2013)
- Jojo's Bizarre Adventure:Stardust Crusaders
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- Jormungand: Perfect Order
- K-on! Movie
- Kampfer
- Kokoro Connect
- Kyoukai No Kanata
- Kyoukai Senjou Horizon 2
- Kyousogiga
- Log Horizon
- Log Horizon 2
- Love Chunibyo & Other Delusions
- Love Live! School Idol Project
- Love Live! School Idol Project S2
- Lucky star
- Macademi Wasshoi
- Maji de watashi ni koi shinasai!
- Maoyu Maou Yusha
- Mikagura School Suite
- Mondaijitachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru Sou Desu Yo
- Monogatari Second Season
- Monster Musume
- Motto To Love Ru
- Nagi No Asukara
- Nanana's Buried Treasure
- Nisemonogatari
- Oda Nobuna No Yabou
- Omamori himari
- OniAi
- Oreimo
- Oreimo S2
- Oreshura
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- Sword Art Online II
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- 11eyes
- Aldnoah Zero 2
- Bakuretsu Tenshi
- Beautiful Bones: Sakurako's Investigation
- Black Rock Shooter OVA
- Blade Dance Of Elementalers
- Bleach movie 4:The Hell Verse
- Dimension W
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- Girls Und Panzer
- Gj-Bu
- Hamatora
- Hayate No Gotoku:Can't Take My Eyes Off You
- Heavy Object
- Hyakka Ryouran Samurai Girls
- If Her Flag Breaks
- Kenzen Robo Daimidaler
- Kiss x Sis
- La Storia Della Arcana Familgia
- Maken-Ki! Battling Venus
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- Rail Wars!
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- Ro-Kyu-Bu!
- Rolling Girls
- Seiken Tsukai No World Break
- Sekirei
- Senki Zesshou Symphogear G
- Senran Kagura
- Shikabane Hime Aka
- Shikabane Hime Kuro
- Shinmai Maou No Testament BURST
- Sky Wizards Academy
- Soul Eater Not!
- Stella Jo Gakuin C3-Bu
- Tamako Market
- Triage X
- Trinity Seven
- Upotte!
- Witch Craft Works
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Anime Talk
The fool's best(9.0 or more)
- Advance wars: Dual strike
- Bloodborne
- Cabal online
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My Take on the 10/25 Thing
It's fitting that Naithin guest posted about 10s vs 25s on Thursday. After all, I'm a die hard 25 man raider. A die hard 25 man raider who just joined a 10 man guild.
Bit of background, differences of opinion with (some of) the leadership (understatement) and inconvenient raid times brought me to leave my 25 man guild. Instead of craving a rebound guild, my gquit actually triggered cravings to spend time around people I can get touchy-feeling with. But I didn't want to lose my skills, or fall too far behind on gear, or to become too out of the loop for paladin blogging (contrarily to popular belief, you don't have to play at Paragon's level to read and translate EJ into plain English, but it does helps to step into a raid once in awhile).
That's when my old healing lead, Vik, put me in touch with Thespius. Remember what Naithin said about backup players being hard to find for 10 man guilds? Well, it was a perfect match. Team Sport gained a backup healer and I got 6 hours a week of scheduled WoW time, which occasionally included raiding.
My first impression of 10 man raiding: Dude, where's my mana?
Before anything else, there's one thing I need to come clear on. I know I'm always going on about how us pallies have too much mana. Well, if that had anything to do with tomorrow's patch changes, I'm sorry. I really am.
In 25 man raids, I finished most fights at 80% mana. During my 10 man raid, I was completely out of mana before the boss was at 80% health.
Kurn had warned me that 10 man raiding was a bit rougher on the mana, but I assumed it was a gear thing. Apparently, it's not a gear thing. This upcoming patch now makes me want to sob hysterically.
Dealing with the missing mana
To make this post educational, here's my plan to cope with my new found mana issues:
– Trade in my Pursuit of Justice spec for an Eternal Glory spec (maybe go 3/3 on PotI depending on how the nerf to PotI turns out)
– Check my reforging for more spirit opportunities
– Keep working on Archeology for Tyrande's Favorite Doll
– Go over the logs of my beaconing experiments to figure out the most efficient beacon positioning.
Of Bodies and Strategy
I commonly hear that the challenge of 10s over 25s is that 10 leave less room for error. During Wrath, that wasn't exactly true: errors that would instakill you on 25 were survivable on 10 man. Though deaths on 10 man represented a bigger loss, it was much harder to die.
I don't have enough 10 man experience in Cataclysm to know if that carried onto the expansion, but I was quick to notice is that 10 mans don't allow as many strategy possibilities. Take a look at the comments on my Beacon Strategies post: "Seems like good ideas, but, um, not going to work on 10 man."
If you want to argue about difficulty, the limitations on strategies imposed by 10 man can either increase or decrease the challenge, all based on circumstance. The lack of bodies needed for fine tuning fights limits the class interaction techniques you can use, but it also makes coordination so much simpler.
10 mans, the good and the bad
The fast wipe recoveries and quick loot distribution of 10 mans are nice. You can get a lot more attempts in. That takes a huge chunk out of progression time. But I miss the strategy, the class interactions. I miss the chaos that are "spreading out" fights on 25. I miss the complex log parsing. I miss having a team of 6 or 7 to heal with.
Maybe 10 man raiding will grow on me like they did for Janyaa and Naithin, but my loves are strategy and complexity and 10 mans just don't seem to deliver.
It's not that I don't like 10s. 10s have their advantages too. The more accurate statement is this: I hate this 10/25 lockout system
I know "hate" is a strong term, but it's the only one that fits. I hate the lockout system, I really do.
Being a 25 man raider at heart, my focus and energy were on my 25 mans. Offnight 10 mans, however, were how we got to know our teamates. They were how we filled the holes in our gear. When we lost the ability to run both, moral in the guild went downhill. It was like raiding with strangers. And gearing was near impossible. I raided full time for a month and half during Cataclysm. I didn't see a single piece of healing plate drop. Not one. With the exception of a neckpiece and a ring, I'm wearing heroics gear exclusively. Had I been able to redo the fights on 10 man, I would have more chance to keep up gear-wise, or at least get some extra valor points.
I know, we probably could have run 10 mans on offnights anyway (it's not like we were clearing all the bosses during the raid week), but for whatever reason we didn't. And the difference was noticeable. It's like offnight 10 mans are the glue that hold 25 man raids together.
Conclusion: An informed opinion from me is yet to come
I am giving 10s a chance. Until my real life slows down, I'm just a back up healer anyway. Since I'm only playing a handful of hours a week, 10 mans, with their impeccable efficiency, offer more to me right now than 25s would.
I'm still skeptical though. 10 mans alone don't seem to offer enough mental exercise for a passionate strategist, but we'll see. We'll see.
ps. Check out my guest post for Naithin!Explore posts in the same categories: General WoW
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29 Comments on "My Take on the 10/25 Thing"
February 7, 2011 at 9:13 pm
I'll be watching for your conclusions RE: 10/25. Most opinions that I have seen come from the viewpoint of someone that is strict 10 or 25, and rarely from someone that does both regularly.
Zelmaru (Murloc Parliment) mentions that for Holy priests, at least, there seems to be a "spirit threshold", which, after you cross it, mana is no longer an issue. I wonder if the Pally engine runs the same way in this regard.
February 8, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I wouldn't be particularly surprised if it does, as I seem to have a similar threshold on my shammy.
February 7, 2011 at 10:49 pm
Oh gosh, Ophelia, I agree with you about this statement, "I HATE this 10/25 lockout system."
That's it in a nutshell. I have grown to love my 10man raiding, but if I had the choice, I would do both in a heart beat. The fact is, we only raid two nights a week; which leaves entirely too much time without any raiding.
On the off nights, I log on, do my fishing and cooking dailies, do my Tol Barad dailies, do my random heroic and then log off. Maybe I'll do some farming if I'm feeling particularly bored.
It's so boring and dissatisfying. I'm a RAIDER, dammit. I wish Blizzard would just let me raid and be happy.
(And, to all the people that say, well, just roll another alt. Yes, I have another level 85, and hopefully I will get them geared out and raid ready. But, making me level an entirely different toon, go through the same storyline of quests and then do the grind to re-gear and deck out my alt is frustrating. I chose my main because that's what I want to play. I hate that I'm not getting the opportunity to do so as much as I would like.)
In a perfect Janyaa world, I would be able to run my 10man raids progressively during the week and run a 25man raid casually during the weekend.
February 7, 2011 at 10:52 pm
PS. You know what's so funny? I predicted that this would be the case in two posts long before the changes occurred.
This post discussed my love of both 10/ 25m formats and my dismay at making them mutually exclusive.
And this one talked about my concern for the continued viability of 25man raiding.
Talk about one time I wish I had been wrong. 😦
February 7, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Do you make your WoL posts public? I'd love to look over them if so, it's very educational.
February 8, 2011 at 8:36 am
I get the need for the touchy feely.. just had wake up call about the dangers of playing with kids.. and need to be reminded about nice people again – 10's was more something I did with friends 25's was for raiding – but I like the idea of a reliable set of 10's then a 25 mess now
February 8, 2011 at 11:24 am
Regarding mana, the nerfs are needed since we are more effective than other healers. I'm sorry it made you unhappy. Personally, I'm specced Eternal glory because LoD might be better if people happen to be stacked at one place but this does not happen all the time.
Regarding the shared lockout, I suspect they did so because many people do not understand what "optional" means. (They either consider it mandatory if it gives them an advantage or pointless if it doesn't.) Of course, 25-man are not dropping heroic gear as they used in Wrath but it would double the number of drops you get anyway.
At first, I was quite surprised at needing 10-man raids to keep your 25-man together but I guess it's important for any guild to have an off-night activity people can do together so they don't feel like strangers who only meet a couple of hours a week for raids and 5-mans or 10-mans (for 25-man guilds) were just something everyone was familiar with and a lot of people actually wanted to do.
February 8, 2011 at 6:02 pm
I've always loved 10s myself. Possibly it's because my first few raids were Kara and ZA, but in 10s I always feel vital, necessary, integral to team success. In 25s I always feel confused, lost in the crowd, like an interchangeable cog in the wheel. I am SO happy that 10s and 25s now drop the same loot. I hated feeling like I put forward more effort and had a greater impact on success in the raid where I was rewarded with subpar gear, and being rewarded with the "real" epics only when I blundered around feeling useless and extraneous. It always felt backwards to me.
That's just me though. I hope you come to see the fun of 10s, since that's what you're doing right now. 🙂
February 9, 2011 at 1:37 pm
I couldn't disagree more. I hated feeling like I 'had' to run the same instance 2 or 4 times a week (ToC anyone?) just to get a properly itemized piece of gear. I also don't want to raid 5x night a week. Two or three nights suits me just fine. Gives me time to hang out with my wife and do other hobbies I enjoy.
February 10, 2011 at 3:28 am
I like the majority am looking forward to your next 10/25 post. Im in a ten man guild purely because i dont have the time to dedicate myself to the work of a 25 guild. I do however like the simplicity of my team man… we are all very close much like a family and are all in a similar situation of gametime vs RL time. I was in quite a good 25 guild and liked it but life moves on and with that i went to ten. The challenges i face are indeed mana control as we try to run only two healers.
Another great post and awesome guest post to.
ps – its a little of topic but if you get a chance google "new zealand wellington Sevens" its a awesome time and people dress up and what not… Next year im going as a paladin!!! /inv Ophelie hahahaha
February 18, 2011 at 5:35 am
I can NOT believe that such a hardcore raider is in 10-man now.
What is the world coming to?!?!
Kidding, hope you have a blast. Thes owes me a beer now.


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The California Department of Fish and Wildlife (CDFW) invites anglers to celebrate summer by fishing for free this Saturday. July 6 is the first of two Free Fishing Days in 2013, when people can try their hand at fishing without having to buy a sport fishing license.
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Providence and politics have made Quebec one of the world's most favourable mining jurisdictions. But yesterday's provincial election might cause concern to industry players and investors alike. The new Parti Quebecois government wants to scale back a northern infrastructure program, curtail foreign takeovers and introduce an Australian-style royalty scheme.
The big question is whether the PQ can gain needed support for its agenda. The separatist party won 54 seats, nine shy of a majority government. The Liberals came close with 50 seats but lost their nine-year hold on power. A new party, Coalition Avenir Quebec (Coalition for Quebec's Future), took the spoiler's slot with 19 seats while Quebec Solidaire picked up just two seats.
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Wednesday, April 8, 2015
Sometimes you just have to cry...0 comments Posted by Rebecca at 12:15 AM
Sometimes I cry. I try to do the majority on my crying alone, but sometimes the tears come when others are around and I just can't hold them back. Sometimes that person that is around is Kylynn. I often try hard not to cry in front of Kylynn because it distresses her quite a bit. She says, "mom don't cry. If you cry, then I'm go into cry. I don't want you to be sad." Of course, sometimes Kylynn has a distorted view of what might make me cry. The weather has been kind of nice lately and I offered to go on a bike ride with Kylynn. Admittedly, we haven't done this before as I was just recently (in the dead of winter) given a bike, but I can ride a bike still. Kylynn's response? "Mom, I'm not sure we should. You might fall and then you'd cry, and then I'd cry!" *sigh* Bike ride is on hold until Kylynn finds me a suitable helmet. I try not to cry in front of her too often, but still, it does happen.
|Me, Kylynn, Mona, Carl, and Eric
|Me and my harp, Ashe
Today was one of those days. First, I had chemo this morning and came home with this stupid fanny pack of chemo to be my constant companion for the next two days. Never a good set up when you're trying not to cry. But more than that, I have been thinking about and missing my friend and harp teacher, Carl. Carl passed away at the beginning of this year at the young age of 41. I was extremely sad when I heard of his passing, and then with a little time and a bunch of craziness in my own life, the hurt became less and the memories made me smile. But the past couple of weeks I have have been avoiding thoughts of Carl because they hurt again. It's been difficult though because my beautiful harp, Ashe (yes, I named him) sits in my room and reminds me of lessons and laughter with Carl. And I cry... and Ashe cries with me. If you've ever owned a largish stringed instrument then you probably understand that statement. Ashe audibly echos my pain and somehow it makes it hurt more. I have gone on the computer to pull up pictures unrelated to Carl, but have managed to stumble across pictures like these often. And I love the pictures, but they also carry a sting. Then today the details for Carl's memorial here (he passed away in Germany where he was living with his wife and daughter) were posted and will be held on what would have been Carl's 42nd birthday, and I cried. There was no way to stop it, and Kylynn came over and asked why I was crying and said that it made her sad. Kylynn knew Carl pretty well, as did Eric, so she understood when I told her why I was sad. We talked about how it's okay to cry when things make us sad like When someone we care about dies. Kylynn nodded her understanding, but just under that understanding was raw pain in the eyes of my ten year old. It passed fairly quickly, but there is very clear understanding of the tears that her future may hold.... which only made me cry more.
|Fun with Kylynn, Carl, Mona, and Melanie
We did, however, pull ourselves together and had a nice quiet evening at home. Now my munchkin is sleeping soundly, yet I'm wide awake. I'm so very tired, but sleep is not cooperating tonight. I don't know. Some days just seem rainier than others, but even on the rainiest day there is the knowledge that eventually the rain will cease and the hope that once again see all who have been lost to us in this world when we reach the next.
|Carl and Melanie
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When the shower curtain rod falls down0 comments Posted by Rebecca at 11:27 AM
Here's what's been going on:
Before Christmas I had the tumor that they found in my spine radiated and I was scheduled to go back to Mayo in early February for some scans. Well, in keeping with most of my recent visits to Mayo, everything went to crap with those scans. The PET scan showed active cancer in my liver and lungs which wasn't too surprising but was still disheartening. The PET scan also showed a new tumor in the ball joint of my right shoulder. Not cool. Looking at the CT scans showed that the growth in my liver and lungs wasn't huge but enough that my oncologist felt we need to put all of the preventative things we were doing to try and stop any recurrence of the breast cancers on the back burner and focus again on the cholangiocarcinoma. His recommendation was some radiation for the tumor in my shoulder and then a new chemo to try and shrink the tumors in my liver and lungs. Both of these treatments he felt I should be able to get closer to home and so he sent all of my information and scans to the oncologist I have been working with here. Both oncologists were in agreement, but they were not able to get the radiologist on board with them here to take care of my shoulder (it's a long story that makes me angry to tell). Since I am going back up to Mayo in March, my oncologist there okayed just starting the chemo and after we see my next set of scans we will decided about the radiation. So I started my new chemo on the 17th of February . I hate it. No, I despise it. It is a 4 hour infusion and then I go home attached to a 46 hour slow infusion of another drug that I get to carry around in a very stylish fanny pack. I have two of these treatments so far but I can confidently say that it is the worst chemo that I have ever dealt with. Never has a chemo made me so sick. Even with a 20% dose reduction and new pre meds, I have had to go in for fluids the day I get my pump unattached and the day after. For at least three days after chemo, I am useless. I can barely move from being so exhausted. This is a tired I have never experienced before. So tired that my chest aches and my arms feel heavy. Sleep is all I want to do, but even then, I wake up still sick and still tired. Who has time for that kind of crap?
In the midst of all the cancer crud that has been going on last year through the present, we have managed to get are bathroom closer to being finished. We need some paint and cosmetic type stuff, but we have a sink! So, with this bathroom project, I recently (before Christmas) got a new shower curtain and shower curtain rod. Yea! Looks great! BUT, the stinking curtain rod (it's a tension rod) has been just randomly falling down. Sometimes when I'm getting out of the shower, sometimes when my child is in the shower, sometimes just because we sneezed two rooms away. It's annoying and, if you're in the shower when it happens, rather inconvenient. I don't know if it's the tile in our shower or the rod not being grippy (it's a word, right?) enough, I've tightened the heck out the thing... still falls down. There was even a day when both the shower curtain rod and the towel rack came crashing down at the same time. But ya know, things could be worse right?And that's how I've been feeling about my life lately. The shower curtain rod keeps falling down. We radiate something and "put the curtain rod back up" and then I get a scan that shows more cancer and "the rod comes crashing down again". New chemo, "put the rod back up", sick for three days, "shower curtain on the floor again". It feels endless, and it's exhausting, but there's hope, right? We can always put the shower curtain rod back up and one day that it is going to stay!
Just as an aside, as I am typing this post I am reminded of a post that I wrote quite awhile ago that has a similar theme. You can find it HERE.
I would be lying if I said that all of these new changes and treatments don't scare the hell out of me. I look at Eric and Kylynn and our day to day struggles and it breaks my heart. I think about this new chemo I'm on and I can only remember that it is the same chemo that two dear friends with the same diagnosis were on when they passed away, it keeps me up at nights. I think of all the really cool things that Kylynn is learning and doing with her schooling. She has been going through this amazing period where you can almost see the connections being made in her brain and she just lights up with excitement over her discoveries. And I have to miss that for a few days when I'm sick after chemo. I HATE that. Eric and my family are always having to pick up the slack when I'm sick after chemo and I feel like such a burden. BUT through all of this, even when my shower curtain rod keeps falling down, I have been surrounded by people who love me and Eric and Kylynn. Someone has always been willing to step in and help "put the shower curtain back up". That love and support is what gets us through, even on the rainiest day.