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Caught up with Falcons general manger Thomas Dimitroff at the team's community service project on Thursday.
I wanted to follow-up on his radio interview about the cornerbacks and he elaborated on the plan. He said Dunta Robinson, Brent Grimes and Asante Samuel will all get some action inside.
"Dunta has played inside at Houston and has a desire to play inside as well and that's positive," Dimitroff said. "He did a nice job down there. When he came to us, he's been outside-only as you know. I understand that he's looking forward to jumping back inside and spending some time in there as well. There is a good chance that all of those guys will be spending time inside and out."
The theme of the training camp will be "open competition."
"They'll be competing for their positions and where they'll be playing," Dimitroff said. "Like Mike Smith has said, this is a very, very competitive year at a number of positions. We are excited about having Asante on board to improve the talent in our secondary."
He was excited about watching the new rookies, drafted and undrafted, next Friday through Sunday at the rookie minicamp.
He had a group assessment to share about the undrafted players.
"Interestingly enough, as a group, it seems like at virtually every position grouping there are guys that are going to be very interesting to monitor through the process," Dimitroff said.
We likely will not get the team's first "unofficial" depth chart until late July. However, that will not keep us from stacking our own unofficial depth chart.
The Falcons have filled their roster at 90 players, the maximum number allowed by league rules.
WR 11 Julio Jones, 12 Kevin Cone, 15 Michael Calvin, 16 Marcus Jackson
LT 72 Sam Baker, 74 Will Svitek, 76 Lamar Holmes
LG 63 Justin Blalock, 79 Mike Johnson, 68 Phillipkeith Manley
C 62 Todd McClure, 66 Peter Konz, 61 Joe Hawley, 64 Tyler Horn
RG 61 Joe Hawley, 66 Peter Konz, 65 Vince Manuwai , 79 Mike Johnson , 75 Garrett Reynolds
RT 77 Tyson Clabo, 75 Garrett Reynolds, 67 Andrew Jackson, 70 Bryce Harris
TE 88 Tony Gonzalez, 81 Michael Palmer, 86 Tommy Gallarda, 85 Marquez Branson, 85 LaMark Brown, 86 Adam Nissley
WR 84 Roddy White, 83 Harry Douglas, 80 Kerry Meier, 19 Drew Davis, 17 Cody Pearcy, 18 James Rodgers
QB 2 Matt Ryan, 8 Chris Redman, 4 John Parker Wilson, 14 Dominique Davis
RB 33 Michael Turner, 32 Jacquizz Rodgers, 44 Jason Snelling, 35 Antone Smith, 30 Dimitri Nance, 40 Robbie Frey
FB 34 Ovie Mughelli , 36 Bradie Ewing, 44 Jason Snelling, 42 Mike Cox
RE 55 John Abraham, 90 Lawrence Sidbury, 98 Cliff Matthews, 69 Louis Nzeqwu
DT 91 Corey Peters, 99 Vance Walker, 92 Travian Robertson, 67 Regis Micanor
DT 95 Jonathan Babineaux, 94 Peria Jerry, 97 Carlton Powell, 70 Ray Kibble,
LE 93 Ray Edwards, 71 Kroy Biermann, 96 Jonathan Massaquoi
OLB 56 Sean Weatherspoon, 50 Robert James, 43 Rico Council, 30 Matt Hansen
MLB 51 Lofa Tatupu, 52 Akeem Dent, 46 Max Gruder, 53 Pat Schiller
OLB 54 Stephen Nicholas, 59 Spencer Adkins, 49 Jarrell Harris
RCB 22 Asante Samuel, 23 Dunta Robinson, 21 Christopher Owens, 27 Robert McClain
NB 23 Dunta Robinson, 24 Dominique Franks, 21 Christopher Owens
LCB 20 Brent Grimes, 24 Dominique Franks, 29 Darrin Walls, 38 Marty Markett, 37 Peyton Thompson
SS 25 William Moore, 26 Charles Mitchell , 40 Chad Faulcon
FS 28 Thomas DeCoud, 39 Shann Schillinger, 41 Suaesi Tuimaunei
K 3 Matt Bryant
KO 5 Matt Bosher, 9 Dawson Zimmerman
P 5 Matt Bosher, 9 Dawson Zimmerman
KR 17 Cody Pearcy, 18 James Rodgers, 24 Dominique Franks, 83 Harry Douglas
PR 17 Cody Pearcy, 18 James Rodgers, 24 Dominique Franks, 83 Harry Douglas
LS 82 Joe Zelenka, 47 Josh Harris, 48 Corey Adams
H 5 Matt Bosher, 80 Kerry Meier
–D. Orlando Ledbetter, The Atlanta Falcons beat blog
May 4th, 2012
8:00 am
May 4th, 2012
8:03 am
Why would Sam Baker start over Svitek who beat him out last year and played much better? What sense does that make?
May 4th, 2012
8:19 am
Snelling's status has been reduced to #3 FB?
May 4th, 2012
8:30 am
Fullback is strong if Mike Cox is last on the depth chart!
May 4th, 2012
8:32 am
Most interesting take, to me, is Cody Pearcy as defacto presumptive heir to Weems returner spot. That will be a very interesting battle, to me. Hard to argue with his speed, though.
Intriguing take on the depth chart, thanks, DOL.
May 4th, 2012
8:48 am
Where's Julio Jones?
May 4th, 2012
8:50 am
Look again Bills fan.
May 4th, 2012
8:51 am
Think we can safely call Mike Johnson a bust. 3rd year coming up for a #3 draft choice and he's 4th on the RG depth chart? Ouch. And I guess Garrett Reynolds is on his way out too. Dimitroff's drafting of OL has been quite awful. Let's hope Konz and Holmes pan out.
May 4th, 2012
8:57 am
The depth is getting better and I am sure the coaches love that! I would call our man Jason Snelling a RB2. If Turner goes down, he will be the guy to carry the rock. Competition will be interesting at LT and among the speedy WR behind our top 3. The defensive secondary took a big step forward and the rookies will be pushing for a roster spot. I suspect that we have an improvement over Weems in both WR depth and the return game. A couple of guys that I want to watch in practice are DE Jonathan Massaquoi and TE/WR Lamark Brown. Both these guys appear to have special talents and could develop into special players or at least make others at their position step it up a notch. Thanks D-Led for putting it together for our first look at the 2012 Falcons… I can't wait!
May 4th, 2012
9:00 am
are you serious, DOL? pearcy as the starting PR and KR? you must think this kid is exceptional, a true diamond in the rough, for him to even make the roster, let alone be a starter on opening day. you must think douglas as PR and smith/quizz as KR is just outlandish. c'mon, man.
(also, snelling not even on the depth chart at tailback??)
May 4th, 2012
9:01 am
I have to echo Delbert's question: Snelling is a complete non-factor?? Although I know Turner has run for a lot of yards over the years, much of that has come from high # of carries. Seems to have a LOT of ineffective runs, and I get the sense he's got little gas left in the tank. Too much hesitant tip-toeing to the line hoping a hole opens up in front of him….no lateral ability left at all….a large % of his tackles are essentially made by his own OLinemen, as he just runs up their backs.
Snelling has greater quickness, almost as much power, runs much more aggressively and appears to have greater vision/instinct. Can't figure out why he's not getting the touches.
Personally, I would be good with a backfield on most plays of Snelling and Quizz – lots there for the defense to worry about every play.
May 4th, 2012
9:02 am
Looking foward to OL competition.
Also interested in the ILB battle
May 4th, 2012
9:05 am
Why is Snelling not on RB depth chart? Have you heard rumors that the organization also views Pearcy as the likely returner? Any chance Tatapu and Dent start?
May 4th, 2012
9:09 am
Smith and Nance are not ahead of Snelling in the RB depth chart. Snelling is Turner's backup, period, but will also be used in other packages and occasionally as a FB. Jaquizz is a pure package player. Thankfully Mularkey's not around anymore to call "Jaquizz up the middle". Jerious Norwood should sue Mularkey for shortening his career with those insane play calls.
Who's the backup FG kicker? Every position should have a backup.
I can't wait to see Pearcy battle for a roster spot.
May 4th, 2012
9:10 am
Delbert D.
May 4th, 2012
8:19 am
Snelling's status has been reduced to #3 FB?
That one caught my eye as well……………..I thought most of the time Snelling was in for Turner.
May 4th, 2012
9:14 am
DOL has a 12 man defense depth chart. Probably right.. we do need to try to keep 12 men on the field….
May 4th, 2012
9:16 am
J-Lo, i believe that DOL is betting that Snelling is a fullback when it is all said and done. Probably a better fit for the team.
May 4th, 2012
9:25 am
Jimmy Crack
May 4th, 2012
9:09 am
Who's the backup FG kicker? Every position should have a backup.
It's not Bosher?
May 4th, 2012
9:33 am
We could use an upgrade At OLB DT and safety, maybe one of the FA WR will step up and provide a spark. Our OL is still suspect, but ryan has much more to work with than last year. He will take us as far as we will go.
May 4th, 2012
9:35 am
Is there any word out on what positions or players the Falcons are planning to use the 3 million dollars cap space credit, given to them by the NFL for the Michael Vick bankruptcy-bonus recovery thing?
This is not a Vick bashing comment. The man made bad decisions, paid and went to jail for those bad decisions, and people just need to get over it!!! Only god can judge and we all need to practice forgiveness as he would.
May 4th, 2012
9:37 am
This is not a well thought out lineup. First, TD and Smitty have made it perfectly clear since the Giants gm that they intended to get bigger and stronger along our OL to prevent a repeat of our total failures in those 3rd and short situations. This OFF lineup guarantees a repeat of last yr, especially at RG(JHawley) and OC(TMcClure), which is where the problem was most evident.
Secondly, TMcClure is 35yrs old and on a 1yr contract, and we're looking for a longterm solution at OC. Both Hawley and Konz are bigger, stronger, younger, more athletic and mobile, so why take another step back with McClure? Hawley did a decent job overall at RG, but when it came to moving defenders off the ball in key situations, he didn't get it done. MJohnson and Konz are bigger, stronger, and are better options.
If you understand anything about the new VERTICAL OFF Koetter will impliment, and I posted a link that explains it, then you'll know that pass protection, especially for our LT, will take on an entirely different approach than it did under Mularkey. Here's what I don't understand about some of the ignorance that keeps getting put out there by some of these so called experts about Holmes being unable to start this yr.
They say there's no way he can beat out SBaker or WSvitek, due to their starting experience and his alledged issues with speed pass rushers. Well, if any of these clowns watched SBaker and WSvitek last yr, they woud know just how much of an issue both of these players had with speed rushers, and their experience didn't help them or MRyan one doggone bit.
So, why is it perfectly acceptable to make that an issue with a rookie LT, that has tremendous room for improvement, but not make it an issue for a couple of vets with the same problem, and limited room for improvement? Bottomline, how in the devil are we suppose to get bigger and stronger along our OL by starting last yrs weak links and putting our bigger and stronger OLinemen at the bottom of our depth chart?
Defensively, it's been proven that CB COwens is a far better defender on the outside than inside at NCB. Therefore, why list him as a NCB, unless you've forgotten the Packer gm?
May 4th, 2012
9:42 am
Yeah, I'm with the majority of the other posters: Whats the deal with Snelling's placement?
May 4th, 2012
9:57 am
In D-Led's defense, the initial depth chart usually lists the vets ahead of the rookies. The final depth chart at the end of training camp normally shows the progression up the depth chart by the younger players who have stood out in camp and pre-season games.
May 4th, 2012
10:00 am
First point… this would be the starting lineup today… Sure to change once Training Camp gets under way…
Second… Is this DOL's or the team's depth chart?
May 4th, 2012
10:32 am
Ronnie Mack – DOL has included the nickel back as the starter because we will pull a lb a lot of times to off set 3 receiver sets so you have to show your nickel and your starting lb's on the list which brings it up to 12.
Also Pooler is spot on, this is the depth chart going into camp so you can not just instantly plug a draftee into the starting line up. Matt Ryan did not get the starting job until the end of preseason so you can't expect a 2nd, 3rd or later draftee to be penciled in yet.
Don't worry about Snelling he will be first off the sideline to replace Turner when the games start.
May 4th, 2012
10:52 am
I love this team. We should do well again this season. GO FALCONS!!!
May 4th, 2012
10:53 am
Gee, behind the starters, feels thin at linebacker.
May 4th, 2012
10:56 am
I like Dunta moving inside. He's a feared hitter so that should bode well, and he's got good ball skills.
I appreciate his being a team player on this renegociating his contract and I think he's going go have a fantastic year in this defense.
May 4th, 2012
10:59 am
This pre-camp chart is like mock drafts and pre-season college football ranking, very fluid situation.
Bills fan………check the first name on the depth chart above, it say Julio Jones!
May 4th, 2012
11:16 am
We lucked out on Pearcy. 4.31 in the 40, that's faster than Vick. If anybody runs across Tim Dwights's 40 time please post it, I've looked for it and I get everything else but.
May 4th, 2012
11:19 am
I agree with Brownie on this one. Sometimes in this league there isn't going to be a gaping hole to run through. You try and get what you can instead of running to the sidelines or running up the back of your linemen. It seems Turner has lost his ability to make even the slowest guy on D to miss.
May 4th, 2012
11:19 am
We may have lucked out on Cody Pearcy. 4.31 in the 40, that's faster than a former Falcon QB. Does anybody know what Tim Dwight ran the 40 in…………….??
Jesus DOL, what if I want to write about Vap O Rub?
May 4th, 2012
11:20 am
Ken Strickland, you are 100% right with this post….Dont know how we get better on OL doing the same things we did last year…thought it was THE big area of concern, yet according to these depth charts, we are right back where we failed
May 4th, 2012
11:20 am
74 is going to finish ahead of 72.
72 is done.
May 4th, 2012
11:21 am
Some of yall sound dumb…why would you use Turner's stats for last year to say that he has little left in the tank and he had ineffective runs, and he tiptoed up the middle and that Baker shouldnt start because he got beat out last year and all this other non sense….
its a NEW REGIME new Coordinators on both sides, DIFFERENT SCHEMES…different GAME PLANS…you dont know how effective Turner will be in this seasons offense… Mularkey is not here anymore, so i doubt we continue the same predictable run up the middle on 1st and 2nd…
and for those who question Jacquizz running ability up the middle…he might be 5′7 but he's 198 200 solid… thats like having a 5′10 244lb running back on the roster…oh wait, we do….some dont know football and shud just save what they say for moments with their boys and not times like these when all falcons fans can realize your incompetence
May 4th, 2012
11:25 am
May 4th, 2012
10:00 am
Did you read the article?
May 4th, 2012
11:36 am
Enter your comments here
May 4th, 2012
11:37 am
@Sid…. apparently not lol
May 4th, 2012
11:39 am
JR – having a 5′7″ 200 lb RB is NOT like having a 5′10″ 244 lb RB. Not sure what you are thinking there.
May 4th, 2012
11:52 am
JR, we already saw Quizz go up the middle several times last season. No gain or a yard loss. Every time it looked like he hit the back bumper of a parked Humvee. Do your homework before you start bashing the Cage.
May 4th, 2012
12:30 pm
TheMostHatedjR May 4th, 2012 11:21 am
why would you use Turner's stats for last year to say that he has little left in the tank and he had ineffective runs, and he tiptoed up the middle
I am glad you are here………….finally somebody who knows everything. But, nonetheless I will attempt to counter your input.
Turner is not fast to the line, he does tiptoe, lacks the vision to see the hole, and cannot cut outside to either direction, resulting in an O line butt thump. This is Turner's modus operandi and though we hope the new coaches and personnel on the O line will open holes big enough to drive a semi thru without the vision Turner may continue the ol' butt thump.
I'll agree, Jaquizz Rogers is solid and much more durable than Jerious Norwood , but I am looking forward to some actual screen passes and sweeps with the ball in his hands. Fairly incompetent on your part to say he is " like having a 5′10 244lb running back" , he is not. We are in trouble if we try to pound the middle with Rogers, save for an occasional shovel pass. You say "i doubt we continue the same predictable run up the middle on 1st and 2nd…", I think you will prove to be wrong but we'll have to debate that in December.
It's obvious you feel an element of empowerment that you can be that condescending hiding behind a computer keyboard but if you are like that with friends or family I doubt you have any.
With that said I would like to make an appeal to the Falcons coaches to work with Matt Ryan on his QB sneak technique. No leg drive, his knees never extend, his feet never leave the ground, he ducks his head (hell, I don't blame him).
A perfectly executed QB Sneak, lol:
NFL Vid: The Ice Bowl
May 4th, 2012
12:38 pm
Guys, it's an offseason depth chart. Don't read that much into it. This is basically what Dled thinks it will look like for OTA's.
There will be changes all the time over July and August before settling on the final 53 that matter.
May 4th, 2012
12:45 pm
DOL…you didnt want to make the hard call. I think Asante and Grimes start, with Robinson playing the nickel.
I think that the new D Coordinator may start the three of them and choose between starting DeCoud or Moore at FS. Thats why James Sanders became dispensable.
The days of a roaming, hard hitting SS that is a liability in coverage are over…just like the days of facing a RB that carries the ball 40 times a game are over. I actually think Moore is more of a playmaker, but his eargerness to lay people out could be a liability in coverage.
With the extra cap space, I want to see the Falcons bring in a veteran LT and/or MLB. Once that happens…we are set.
May 4th, 2012
12:49 pm
I would love to see Massaquoi beat out Ray Edwards. Seems to me Edwards takes a lot of plays off and stops playing before the whistle.
May 4th, 2012
12:54 pm
"Where's Julio Jones?"
Dropping a pass in the end zone, probably.
May 4th, 2012
12:57 pm
Cornerbacks are only as good as the pass rush.. with no pass rush.. CB's are very average..


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More Telecommunications Competition?
Not from Spain (Movistar) or Mexico (Enitel) but China. While Nicasat-1 is a done deal and is expected to be financed by Chinese banks, a Chinese company is expected to win a frequency auction which could bring a third company into the cellular market.
From an FT Blog
Telcor has also been busy with a new cellphone frequency auction. The country is already served by América Móvil, controlled by Mexico's Carlos Slim, and Spain's Telefónica. They argue that in such a small market, two companies are more than sufficient.
china news
heard a rumor..
a while back..that yoto was bought by a chinese company..in waslala claro dose a horrible job..but as a biz. person..i dont think they are makeing money there..or the other small towns out there
They'e getting better and better in Jinotega
Service will be bad one day or for a couple of days, then come back better than it was before. I was watching YouTube videos last night during the prime usage time, which in the past was when I couldn't even surf websites with only static content well. Still goes down if it gets a EDGE signal, but EDGE still works for prepago users outside Jinotega.
I bet the guys working on this are having lots of fun. Our network guys strutted like cowboys.
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The protest, like so many others across the nation, were sparked by a 'day of love' to support Hobby Lobby. People like the group in Kennewick were not feeling the love on Thursday.
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WASHINGTON (BP)--In vitro fertilization -- plus the screening method that sometimes accompanies it -- continues to produce fatal results for some of the children created through the laboratory technique.
An Australian mother of three boys plans to travel to Thailand to select the sex of her next child to assure she has a girl -- meaning the male embryos produced by in vitro fertilization (IVF) likely will have no future because they will not be implanted in her womb.
The news prompted American bioethics specialist Wesley Smith to give the following assessment of the state of IVF use:
"Increasingly, IVF is not about treating infertility, but about reducing reproduction to a crass consumer activity akin to choosing a breed of dog or model of flat screen television. This is objectification pure and simple. When we believe we are entitled not just to a child but to the kind of child we want, it strikes a body blow against unconditional love -- because by definition, it isn't."
The Australia mother, 36, and her husband, whose identities have not been disclosed, will spend more than $15,000 to assure only female embryos are transferred to her womb at a Bangkok fertility clinic, according to the Herald Sun, a Melbourne newspaper.
The Melbourne resident said her trip to Thailand is prompted by Australia's ban on using IVF and the screening technique known as pre-implantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) for sex selection.
"It hasn't been a decision taken lightly but it is one we feel we have reached and we are happy with," she said, according to the Herald Sun.
"For me, it is about the desire to have a daughter being such a strong desire in me that I can't seem to shake it."
The couple's three sons are 5, 4 and 1 in age.
Smith said, "Of course, this means the male embryonic brothers of those treasured boys will be tossed out with the other medical waste. So, in this case, a Y chromosome is a deadly defect."
In other IVF-related news:
-- The Federal Supreme Court in Leipzig, Germany, ruled that embryos produced by IVF may be tested for defects before implantation in a mother's womb. The court's July 6 decision favored a Berlin doctor who did not implant three couples' embryos who carried genes for hereditary defects. The court said the practice does not violate a law designed to protect human embryos.
-- A Connecticut fertility center was fined for implanting the wrong embryos in a woman. The tiny human beings wrongly implanted paid the greatest penalty, however. They were eliminated by the "morning-after" pill. The Center for Advanced Reproductive Services, which is part of the University of Connecticut Health Center, signed a consent order the week of June 20-26 agreeing to pay a $3,000 fine without admitting it was at fault in the mix-up, The Hartford (Conn.) Courant reported. When the woman who received the embryos learned the day after they were implanted about the mistake, she took the "morning-after" pill. That drug can block implantation of an embryo in the uterine wall, thereby causing an abortion.
LA., MO. OPT OUT -- Louisiana and Missouri have become the fourth and fifth states, respectively, to opt out of a provision in the new federal health care law that would require coverage for abortion in "insurance exchanges."
Gov. Bobby Jindal, a Republican, signed the Louisiana legislation into law July 6. Gov. Jay Nixon, a Democrat, allowed the Missouri bill to become law July 14 without his signature.
Arizona, Tennessee and Mississippi previously had enacted laws barring the use of federal funds for insurance plans that cover abortions. The Florida legislature passed a similar bill, but Gov. Charlie Crist, an independent, vetoed it June 11.
The health care reform measure signed into law by President Obama in March requires "insurance exchanges" in each state to offer at least one plan that covers abortion and one plan that does not. The law, however, allows states to opt out and bar insurance plans that cover abortions from participating in their exchanges.
The insurance exchanges are to be implemented in 2014.
The new Missouri law also strengthens the state's informed consent measure. Among the new provisions is a requirement that a woman be offered the opportunity to see an ultrasound of her unborn child.
BILL TARGETS CENTERS -- Recently introduced federal legislation to regulate advertising by pregnancy centers is "just another attempt to shut down the competition," according to Care Net, a network of more than 1,100 such centers.
Rep. Carolyn Maloney, D.-N.Y., introduced the Stop Deceptive Advertising for Women's Services Act, H.R. 5652, June 30, the same day Sen. Robert Menendez, D.-N.J., offered a companion bill in the Senate.
The measure would direct the Federal Trade Commission to issue new rules prohibiting advertising that intends to give the impression a center provides abortions when it does not. While many pregnancy centers are "forthright and respectful," Maloney said, "some take a more underhanded approach to lure in women seeking abortions by using tactics that should be illegal."
Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-choice America, applauded the proposed legislation, saying many pregnancy centers "use deceptive and manipulative tactics." NARAL is one of the country's leading abortion rights organizations.
Care Net President Menlinda Delahoyde denied the charges, saying affiliates with her organization and other national groups, such as Heartbeat International and the National Institute of Family and Life Advocates, abide by a document that commits them to advertise and communicate truthfully.
"What's happening is that pregnancy centers have become an integral part of a community's support network for women and children," Delahoyde said. "With such holistic support available, women are empowered to choose abortion alternatives and the abortion industry simply doesn't like losing business."
GINSBURG: ROE WILL STAND -- The right to abortion found by the Supreme Court in the 1973 Roe v. Wade opinion will not be nullified, Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said recently.
"Over a generation of young women have grown up, understanding they can control their own reproductive capacity, and in fact their life's destiny," Ginsburg said in Aspen, Colo., according to Politico.com. "We will never go back to the way it once was."
Ginsburg, 77, has been a leading liberal on the high court since she was confirmed in 1993.
FEMINIST CALLS ABORTION 'LESSER EVIL' -- Antonia Senior is a feminist who believes life begins at conception. The reporter for The Times of London also believes killing an unborn child is a matter of choosing "the lesser evil."
"The nearly 200,000 aborted babies in the UK each year are the lesser evil, no matter how you define life, or death, for that matter," she wrote in a June 30 column in the British newspaper. "If you are willing to die for a cause, you must be prepared to kill for it, too."
On his blog, R. Albert Mohler Jr., president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky., said Senior's commentary "represents a moral earthquake."
"That statement, published for all the world to see, perfectly distills the inescapable logic of the abortion rights argument," Mohler wrote. "It is based on a willingness to kill -- and on the horrifying audacity to call this killing 'the lesser evil.'"
Senior once would have argued an unborn child is not a baby in his or her early stages in the womb. Having a baby herself, however, changed her viewpoint, she said. "My daughter was formed at conception, and all the barely understood alchemy that turned the happy accident of that particular sperm meeting that particular egg into my darling, personality-packed toddler took place at that moment," she wrote.
"Any other conclusion is a convenient lie that we on the pro-choice side of the debate tell ourselves to make us feel better about the action of taking a life," Senior said.
PLANNED PARENTHOOD FRAUD CASE REINSTATED-- The U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has reinstated a lawsuit charging abortion giant Planned Parenthood with overbilling the California government.
On July 1, a three-judge panel of the appeals court based in San Francisco unanimously overruled a federal judge who had decided a former Planned Parenthood employee was not qualified to bring a suit charging the organization with fraud, according to the American Center for Law and Justice. The case will go forward with the whistleblower's suit intact.
According to ACLJ, the former Planned Parenthood official charged California affiliates of the organization with illegally overbilling for birth control drugs when seeking reimbursement from the state government. The whistleblower estimated Planned Parenthood overcharged the state by at least $180 million, according to LifeNews.com.
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – It wasn't supposed to be this close. But was it ever.
DeShawn Stevenson, who the Hawks hoped not to play, hit a key 3-pointer with 2:07 remaining in overtime to help the Hawks to a 100-95 victory over the lowly Wizards Tuesday night at the Verizon Center.
The Hawks could have sealed the game at the free-throw line in the final two minutes. However, Stevenson and Al Horford each hit only one of two free throws. After a Jordan Crawford basket and a missed Hawks shot, the Wizards trailed 98-95 and had the ball with 24 seconds remaining. The Wizards' Nene missed a shot in the paint and Kyle Korver sank two free throws with 7.7 remaining to clinch the victory.
The Hawks ordinarily don't play the veteran Stevenson in back-to-back games and wanted to save him for Wednesday's game against the Thunder. However, with Anthony Morrow out and Devin Harris injured during the game, coach Larry Drew had no option. When Harris couldn't return for the second half, Stevenson got his ankles taped during the intermission.
"We were a little short-handed and I got in a situation where I was running out of bodies particularly on the perimeter and we had guys in foul trouble," Drew said. "So I had to choice put the play DeShawn and he really stepped it up big time for me. He came in and did a great job defensively, knocked a 3 down, got a tip-in follow on a fast break."
The Hawks (15-7) defeated the Wizards for the third time this season and sixth straight overall. It was the Hawks' 18th victory over Washington in the past 19 games between the teams. The only game Atlanta has lost came when Josh Smith was out with an injury April 9, 2011.
The Hawks held the Wizards to five overtime points.
"It was tough," Stevenson said of his late entrance. "I've been through so much in my career, getting played in the fourth quarter for two minutes and two seconds. I'm just mentally strong. We needed that win and we got it.
The Hawks have won 12 of their past 15 games. They play the second of four games in five days Wednesday at home against the Thunder.
Lou Williams led the Hawks with 24 points, including a basket and free throw in overtime. Josh Smith had 17 points and 13 rebounds and Korver finished with 16 points.
"I continued to play and stay aggressive," Williams said. "Any time that I thought I saw a crease I was able to take it. Tonight was one of those games we didn't play with a lot of energy so I just wanted to be aggressive any time I had the ball."
The Wizards (3-19) lost for their fourth straight game. They were led by the former Hawk Crawford with a game-high 27 points. Crawford did a lot of talking during the game, to Jeff Teague and the Hawks bench. Teague was called for a foul after hitting Crawford in the face and it got under the skin of the guard, who hit five 3-pointers.
"That's my homeboy," Teague said. "We played together for half a season so we are really good friends. We were just talking a little bit – bragging rights for the summer. … We joked about it after the game. I said 'You finally made some shots against us.' He laughed about it."
With the Hawks holding a one-point lead, 87-86, Smith was fouled going to the basket with 1:05 remaining. However, he missed both free throws and opened the door for the Wizards.
After a Bradley Beal floater gave the Wizards the lead, Williams answered with a 3-pointer with 43.8 seconds remaining. Back came the Wizards on a jumper from Emeka Okafor that tied the game, 90-90, with 23 seconds remaining.
Playing for the final shot, Teague drove to basket but was called for a charge with 2.7 remaining setting up overtime. Crawford missed at the buzzer to force the extra session.
"Coach told me to make a play at the rim and put it on the officials," Teague said of the final play of regulation. "I guess they made a good play."
When asked if he thought it was a charge, Teague said "No, but it was the call that was made."
In three games against the Wizards this season, Smith has averaged 21.7 points and 13 rebounds.
The Hawks led by as many as eight points in the first half and took a 52-46 lead into intermission. Korver had 10 first half points, including three 3-pointers.
Coach and players pointed to the team's defensive effort in the overtime as the reason for the victory. However, the effort will have to be there again Wednesday.
"We locked down and played solid defense," said Al Horford, who had five points and 11 rebounds. "We need to be more consistent in that end. Tomorrow that has to be a point of emphasis because Oklahoma is probably the best team in the NBA right now. We are going to have our hands full."
* Harris left the game in the second quarter and did not return with what the team described as a sore left foot. The guard had eight first-half points before leaving with the injury.
* Ivan Johnson left the game in the second quarter with a cut on his right hand that required four stitches. The cut was between the fourth finger and pinkie. He returned following halftime.
* Morrow missed his second straight game with a sore back. The guard practiced Monday and participated in the shoot-around Tuesday but was declared out prior to the game. Drew said the team was being cautious with the injury by giving Morrow extra rest. The team is still listing Morrow as day-to-day and his status for Wednesday's home game against the Thunder is uncertain.
- Chris Vivlamore
* Morrow out, Stevenson questionable vs. Wizards
* A look at the Hawks at the season's quarter mark
* Hawks look to put worst loss behind them
* A share of first place on the line vs. Bobcats
* Morrow to start vs. Magic, Pachulia warned for flop
* Smith on Smith: Steve says 'travesty' Josh never All-Star
* Video: Hawks look to sustain winning ways
December 18th, 2012
10:17 pm
December 18th, 2012
10:18 pm
December 18th, 2012
10:18 pm
December 18th, 2012
10:19 pm
Allstar Al finished with 5 points..
December 18th, 2012
10:21 pm
"So far this year, the difference hasn't been as pronounced, but over their careers, Lou has been significantly better in that department."
I'd take the better scorer anyday. Not
December 18th, 2012
10:21 pm
Josh and Sweet Lou share the game ball tonight
December 18th, 2012
10:24 pm
That last interior block on the big NeNe by Josh was a game saver..Al was outside the free throw line watching..
December 18th, 2012
10:24 pm
I'll take the W, but.
I think on a night like tonight, Pop would have given Morrow/Harris' minutes to Jenkins. Lets see what he can do.
Otherwise, glad we squeaked it out. Hope Deshawn can go tomorrow too.
December 18th, 2012
10:24 pm
"So far this year, the difference hasn't been as pronounced, but over their careers, Lou has been significantly better in that department."
I'd take the better scorer anyday.
December 18th, 2012
10:31 pm
Najeh Davenpoop [FTPB],
"Over his career, Lou has been significantly better at getting to the line. Lou averages 6 FTA/game for his career; Jamal is at 3.9. Jamal has averaged over 5 FTA/game once in his career; Lou has been over 6 FTA/game in two of the last three seasons. So far this year, the difference hasn't been as pronounced, but over their careers, Lou has been significantly better in that department." – Najeh Davenpoop @10:08pm, 12/18/2012
Please keep in mind you are using "Per 36 Minutes" stats which are "theoretical" [or projected] stats and are not "actual" stats. Over their respective NBA careers, Lou Williams has averaged 3.7 FTA/game while Jamal Crawford has averaged 3.4 FTA/games. That's a very marginal difference of 0.3 FTA/game. Jamal Crawford's career FT % is 85.5% while Lou Williams' career FT % is 80.1%.
It still all cancels/washes (out). I hate to belabor this (these) point(s).
December 18th, 2012
10:35 pm
^Correction: "…Lou Williams has averaged 3.7 FTA/game while Jamal Crawford has averaged 3.4 FTA/[game*]."
December 18th, 2012
10:42 pm
In these games where Stevenson needs rest, why not just give his minutes to Jenkins and tell him to do the same thing Stevenson does, shoot 3s?
December 18th, 2012
10:42 pm
1) Rick Sund deserves a retroactive GM of the year for 2010-11. Great stuff!!
2) Someone please get Nique a calculator or show him some Reggie Miller/Rodney Rogers footage. With 1:10 left and Hawks up by 5, it's not safe to write this one up as a W. Not by a long shot. You can hear Rathbun wanting to reel him in on that, but he probably has visions of the courtside suit guy in his head and lets it slide.
December 18th, 2012
10:45 pm
Minutes to Jenkin? Are you out of your mind??? He's a rookie and has no idea what he's doing out there! Let him rot….I mean sit on the bench for a couple years to pick up the nuances of the game.
December 18th, 2012
10:50 pm
Watched the game tonight great win. My question is at what point will our rookies get to play. We need their energy. Jenkins was drafted 23rd round one, numerous other rookies are playing big minutes. The Hawks draft players to sit on the bench. Most successful teams Boston, Miami, Chicago, and San Antonio draft players in the first round and play them. LD got 2 players hurt now is the time to get the rookies in. They should be playing as much as possible both of them are solid ball players. L Drew may do like Woodson did to Jeff Teague, hold him back for 2 years while Bibby walked the ball up the court. Wake up LD the rookies are very talented and don't pulled them when they make the slightest mistake.
December 18th, 2012
10:59 pm
Bama, Woody coached JT's 1st year and LD coached his 2nd. He didn't get a chance with either until Kirk's injury in the playoffs. If it wasn't for the injury, he'd never got a chance to prove himself.
I agree 100%. Jenkins looks like he could really give us something and he's just sitting there waiting for a 30pt lead so he can get on the court. I'm sure it's doing loads for Jenkins' (and Scott's) confidence. LD thinks development is something you do to a letter before you put it in the mail.
December 18th, 2012
10:59 pm
Jazz tangle[s] Nets, 92 – 90.
The "No. 2 pick" in the 2005 NBA Draft who coincidentally wears the No. 2 [Utah Jazz] jersey this season "put up" a double-double (11pts, 10rebs). Joe Johnson scored a game-high 21 points for the Nets.
Oh yeah, Hawks, thanks for "takin' care of business" against the Wizards even though it (the game) was "too close for comfort."
December 18th, 2012
11:10 pm
"Please keep in mind you are using "Per 36 Minutes" stats which are "theoretical" [or projected] stats and are not "actual" stats."
Yeah, I followed that up by correcting myself, but the point is the same. Per-36 stats are not "theoretical"; they are just actual stats per minute, instead of actual stats per game. There are times when per-36 stats don't matter much (like when you are comparing a starter to a bench player, or when you don't account for the roles that different players play) but in this case, Lou and Jamal both play nearly identical roles for their respective teams, so per-36 (or per-minute) provides a better picture of how much impact each player makes in the time they play.
December 18th, 2012
11:12 pm
"In these games where Stevenson needs rest, why not just give his minutes to Jenkins and tell him to do the same thing Stevenson does, shoot 3s?"
I would have liked to see Jenkins too, but Stevenson is a decent defender, not just a spot up shooter. Nobody knows yet whether Jenkins can also be a decent defender, but from everything I heard about him around draft time that wasn't his strong suit.
December 18th, 2012
11:19 pm
Wait….what? We're supposed to want JJ and Duck back? I didn't realize they've been lighting it up. Let's see here…….Marvin's playing 26min/gm…..3.5RBs…..less than one AST, STL and BLK per game……less than 10PTs/gm…..all for the low low price of 7.5M/yr. And JJ……yep, he still isn't worth half of his salary and apparently his dog just died again, based on his body language. What were we thinking?? Please tell me Danny didn't say no backsies!
December 18th, 2012
11:21 pm
Najeh Davenpoop,
Wrong. "Per 36 Minutes" stats ARE theoretical or projected stats. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure "Per 36 Minutes" stats are NOT used when making Player of the Week selections, Player of the Month selections, MVP selections, SMOY selections, DPOY selections, MIP selections, All-NBA selections, All-Star selections and HOF selections. Right?
December 18th, 2012
11:24 pm
There is a difference between "hoped not to play" and "didn't think he would play"!!
December 18th, 2012
11:28 pm
Hawks were just coasting today. Other than Lou Williams and Ivan, I did not think anyone played well.
Hated the way Teague handled that last possession of regulation. He waited too long, as 'Nique pointed out. Also, got caught in the air and failed to find the correct man who was wide open. He has to do better than that…I won't go into Jordan Crawford handing him his ars the whole night.
They have to play better tomorrow. I think they will. They're really lucky to pull this one out tonight.
December 18th, 2012
11:31 pm
Najeh Davenpoop,
"Per 36 Minutes" stats ARE a "projection" of what a player would average or produce (statistically) if that player averaged or played 36 minutes per game and are based on that particular player's "actual stats." "Actual stats" are used in calculating a player's "Per 36 Minutes" stats. I can't believe you can't see (or understand) this (concept); (I know) you're better (and smarter) than this. Don't disagree just to be disagreeable.
December 18th, 2012
11:35 pm
Josh and Al will need to man-up and play "Grown-man basketball against OKC. None of this passive, weak, non-emotional, "don't hurt me" Basketball!!!!
December 18th, 2012
11:42 pm
In 44 minutes, Al has 5 points, 6 assists, 1 Block, and 1 steal….SMDH…If i am the coach, Al comes off the Bench tomorrow night!!! If you earn 12mil/per season, you can not not play like a BENCH SCRUB!!!! SMDH some more!!!
December 18th, 2012
11:48 pm
The Wizards (3-19) lost for their fourth straight game. They were led by the former Hawk Crawford with a game-high 27 points. Crawford did a lot of talking during the game, to Jeff Teague and the Hawks bench. Teague was called for a foul after hitting Crawford in the face and it got under the skin of the guard, who hit five 3-pointers.
"That's my homeboy," Teague said. "We played together for half a season so we are really good friends. We were just talking a little bit – bragging rights for the summer. … We joked about it after the game. I said 'You finally made some shots against us.' He laughed about it." C-Viv
JC2 is scary.
December 18th, 2012
11:51 pm
Horford hate thread?
December 18th, 2012
11:52 pm
I dont like Al at the 4. He becomes passive and gives up the rock like a hot potatoe!
A chief passer he will become and avg 5-7 assist per night..Do I want my power 4 leading the team in assist nightly?
December 18th, 2012
11:56 pm
""Per 36 Minutes" stats ARE theoretical or projected stats. Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure "Per 36 Minutes" stats are NOT used when making Player of the Week selections, Player of the Month selections, MVP selections, SMOY selections, DPOY selections, MIP selections, All-NBA selections, All-Star selections and HOF selections. Right?"
OK, then what if I gave you per-minute stats? Those are not theoretical, right?
Jamal gets to the line 0.108 times per minute for his career. Lou gets to the line 0.167 times per minute for his career. In other words, Lou gets to the line about 1.5 times as often as Jamal does for his career.
For comparison's sake, LeBron scores about 1.5 times more points per minute than Josh Smith for his career. In other words, Lou for his career has gotten to the foul line better than Jamal at about the same rate that LeBron has scored better than Josh.
Per-36 is just per minute stats multiplied by 36. It is theoretical in the sense that if Lou and Jamal actually play 36 minutes a game, their production may not equal what the per-36 stats say they would. It is not theoretical in the sense that it is just based on what they do per minute rather than per game.
December 19th, 2012
12:00 am
Author….The Hawks are 15-7, not 15-8. Also, I really like the future of this franchise with Ferry. He highly regards shooting and defense…two things that can swing games vicously. Korver was a BIG pickup, I mean this guys is a career 42 percent 3 point shooter, and it seems everytime I pick up the paper and look at the box score, he is 5 for 6 from 3 or something like that. Teague, Lou, and Devin form a lethal guard combo, and Al and Josh down low are good for 15 points 10 boards a night each. Add in ZaZa and Ivan's toughness and rebounding, and Morrow and DeShawn nailing 3's and the Hawks are deep and lethal. The best part is we only have 3 guys under contract next year, so we can build around Horford and Lou, and pick and choose our free agents, maybe Josh (but I am still not sold on him, until he gives up the long jumpers). I would like to get Chris Paul and Resign Josh…A lineup of Chris Paul, Lou Williams, Stevenson/Korver/Free Agent, Josh Smith, and Al Horford looks really good to me….Alot of Atlanta connections, and a potential championship run coming….GO HAWKS!!!
December 19th, 2012
12:01 am
W.R. Terrell
December 18th, 2012
4:43 pm
"A win against the Wizards is more then a possibility unless stupidity takes hold. Lets see, if a certain person rebounds, defends and gets his points off put backs and not standing outside the 3 point line then the HAWKS have a good possibility of winning this game. Is that too much to hope for? oh yeah, he needs to play a lil defense also. Al will be fine, he will give Nene a battle. I say lets start IVAN at PF, Al at center and hopefully that nuddy buddy at SF will play with some sense, if not then the HAWKS gotta big prob if those outside shots are not dropping. LD needs to make a statement about stupid play, if not and the launcher does his thing and goes 4 for 22 then the Wizards will win by 30. Sounds far fetched? Lets see what the wanna be superstar does and if he hinders the team. Maybe he looked at his 1-12 and will decide not to be ignorant. Ha ha gotchaaaaaaaaaaaa."
5 pts, against a scrub front line? Guess this script will be flipped tomorrow by this [Fan Club] member..Dont hold your breath! .hahahahahah
December 19th, 2012
12:01 am
Holy sh-t, the Bobcats are beating the Lakers in LA by double digits.
December 19th, 2012
12:03 am
December 19th, 2012
12:07 am
D'Antoni was a [turrible] hire! Hey, isn't that 7′1″ stiff playing tonight for the Lakers?
December 19th, 2012
12:08 am
"That's my homeboy," Teague said. "We played together for half a season so we are really good friends.
Teague is my favorite Hawks player so I hate to correct him, but he is not factually correct in the above quote. To be truthful Teague should have said:
"That's my homeboy," Teague said. "We SAT ON THE END OF THE BENCH together for half a season so we are really good friends.
December 19th, 2012
12:20 am
Forgot how good Ben Gordon is for terrible offensive teams. Whatever you say about him, he will get you points when your offense is doing nothing.
December 19th, 2012
12:23 am
that game had loss written all over it…….free throws free throws free throws gonna have to make every one count against the Thunder……who if I remember correctly play one of the fastest games ever…..
December 19th, 2012
12:26 am
I don't remember any of you HORFORD HATERS making an issue of Josh's lousy 1-12FGAs, 7REBs, and 3PT performance against the Warriors. But then again, STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!
December 19th, 2012
12:54 am
AL had a bad shooting night, but put up great numbers overall. Hit his avg in rebounds and led the team in assists.
Those are the types of things winners do when there shots aren't falling. Play good defense, distribute the ball, rebound like crazy.
He leads the team in rebounds and double-doubles. He's ALWAYS productive….That's why he's a champion, and an all star.
December 19th, 2012
1:06 am
Good win HAWKS !!! ….. Tomorrow, Let's go take care of business !!!
December 19th, 2012
1:51 am
Bibby, Jordan Crawford, Mo Evans and a first round pick for Hinrich and Hilton Armstrong.
December 19th, 2012
1:51 am
Najeh Davenpoop,
Give it up, dude; you're wrong. "Per 36 Minutes" stats are based on "ACTUAL" stats. What ANAL-MINDED MORON [GM] evaluates players on a "per minute" basis? Don't you realize (that) when you calculate a player's "per minute" stats, those "per minute" stats are derived (or a derivation) from that particular player's "actual" stats? Don't tell me you calculate a player's "per minute" stats using (based on) "arbitrary" stats (sarcasm).
Question No. 1: What are Jamal Crawford's and Lou Williams' "actual" [career] FTA/game stats? Think about it.
Question No. 2: What are Jamal Crawford's and Lou Williams' "actual" [career] scoring averages?
Game, set [and] match.
December 19th, 2012
1:55 am
Joe Johnson was the only thing keeping JC2 from having big nights against ATL #Truth
December 19th, 2012
2:58 am
Hawks did enough to win. Later when people look back on this game it will not matter whether the win was 1 point or 15. It will just be a mark in the win column. Tonight will be significant in that you can bet OKC will want to avenge their lost at home against the Hawks early in the season and they will be ready. The Hawks should do their best to make Durant nothing but a jump shooter. They can win this game.
December 19th, 2012
3:03 am
High-Sider, if I spend 48 minutes on the court and LeBron spends 1 minute on the court, I am almost certainly going to get more stats than him in at least one category, even if just by accident. That doesn't make me a better player; it just means I played more minutes. The whole point of per-minute stats is that some players (in this case, Jamal) play more than other players (in this case, Lou) and it's idiotic to assume they are better just because they played more. If you choose to be an idiot, I can't help you.
December 19th, 2012
3:09 am
Everyone's favorite jump shooting, shying-away-from-contact SG Joe Johnson attempts nearly the exact same number of free throws per game as Jamal and Lou. I suppose you think he gets to the line just as well as they do too.
December 19th, 2012
5:36 am
""That's my homeboy," Teague said. "We SAT ON THE END OF THE BENCH together for half a season so we are really good friends." -Rev in Tampa-
Wassup Rev? Teague meant, they played in practice? practice? practice??? [in A-Iverson's voice] & on the end of the bench, they played a card game called [C O N C E N T R A T I O N]. lol
Shout out to Naj & Hi-sider for the PER Debate. I have been often confused about this stats meaning. Now, Im very clear on this. Great Job – Fellas!!!
I just hope we left something in tank for tonight's big contest. It will be another dog fight. OKC is a turnover machine so, hopefully we can finish on the breaks, rebound and play some fierce defense on the perimeter.
Let's Go Ferry-Led Hawks!!!
Make a Statement!
December 19th, 2012
5:47 am
The HAWKS let Jordon Crawford rot on the bench and the Wizards gave up playing time, there's a lot of astute basketball minds in here. The HAWKS won a basketball game in OT and they should have never been near OT. That's like giving the game ball to crunch time choke free throw shooters. ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh k, I see the big brains are out tonight.
December 19th, 2012
5:52 am
The HAWKS play the Thunder tonight. Can they win? I hope so but that's assuming the bigs rebound, run the floor and forget that 3 pointers exist and oh, not play point guards and muster up a tad of defense.


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Two men, each handsome and unusually adept at his chosen work, embodied an element of the great dynamic that characterized Americas rush toward the twentieth century. The architect was Daniel Hudson Burnham, the fairs brilliant director of works and the builder of many of the countrys most important structures, including the Flatiron Building in New York and Union Station in Washington, D.C. The murderer was Henry H. Holmes, a young doctor who, in a malign parody of the White City, built his "Worlds Fair Hotel" just west of the fairgrounds—a torture palace complete with dissection table, gas chamber, and 3,000-degree crematorium. Burnham overcame tremendous obstacles and tragedies as he organized the talents of Frederick Law Olmsted, Charles McKim, Louis Sullivan, and others to transform swampy Jackson Park into the White City, while Holmes used the attraction of the great fair and his own satanic charms to lure scores of young women to their deaths. What makes the story all the more chilling is that Holmes really lived, walking the grounds of that dream city by the lake.
The Devil in the White City draws the reader into a time of magic and majesty, made all the more appealing by a supporting cast of real-life characters, including Buffalo Bill, Theodore Dreiser, Susan B. Anthony, Thomas Edison, Archduke Francis Ferdinand, and others. In this book the smoke, romance, and mystery of the Gilded Age come alive as never before.
Erik Larsons gifts as a storyteller are magnificently displayed in this rich narrative of the master builder, the killer, and the great fair that obsessed them both.
To find out more about this book, go to http://www.DevilInTheWhiteCity.com.
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