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Nobody asked me but:
This just in: A new poll says that 63 percent of college football fans want to scrap the BCS system and institute a playoff system like college basketball.
Well, duh!!!!!!!
This same polling group found that 95 percent of the people surveyed believe that the sun rises in the East. Okay, I made that up.
I'm not trying to be a smart aleck here but what exactly is the purpose of such a survey? So 63 percent of the 1,849 people surveyed by Quinnipiac University want to have some kind of college football playoff. They are not asked how to accomplish it, who gets to play in it, where the games will be played and when the games are played. They just know that they want it.
I don't understand the point of such a survey. If 63 percent of the people want something, does that mean it is supposed to happen? What are we supposed to do with that information?
I imagine 100 percent of those same people surveyed would like to buy a Cadillac for $10,000. But I don't think General Motors is going to start selling them for that.
Here is my point. I want a four-team playoff. The teams should be seeded with 1 playing 4 and 2 playing 3 on New Year's Day at two of the BCS bowls. A week later the two winners will play for the national championship.
Let's do a survey on that proposal or give people several playoff options and choose the one they like. That would make some sense.
I just don't like mindless surveys that don't advance the ball.
Mike Leach is done at Texas Tech: It didn't take Mike Leach's lawyer long to start calling Craig James a helicopter (hovering) dad and James's son, Adam, a disgruntled kid in need of some discipline. Both of those things may turn out to be true. But in this case those claims are also irrelevant.
If the facts of this case are not in dispute, and it doesn't appear that they are, Adam James was isolated in a dark room after suffering a concussion. Leach's side came up with a doctor's letter saying the kid was not harmed by the action. Again, it's irrelevant. You don't have to be harmed to have been treated improperly.
There is no rationalization from Leach's side that will save him. Leach was asked to meet with the parents, explain his actions, and apologize. He refused, leaving the university wide open to litigation.
Work rule No. 1: When the boss asks you to apologize for the good of the company or the good of the institution, you apologize. If not, expect to be cut loose.
There will be a hearing today in Lubbock. Leach wants a judge to reinstate him to coach the Alamo Bowl on Saturday. In my opinion, if the judge grants Leach's request, Texas Tech will fire him on the spot with a generous severance package. Either way, Leach is done at Texas Tech.
It was a bad loss for Miami: How many times have you seen a team take the opening possession for a touchdown and then lose the game? Miami basically did that last night in the Champs Sports Bowl. The Hurricanes ran the kickoff back for a touchdown and were called for a dumb block in the back penalty near the 10-yard line. The Hurricanes scored anyway. But then Wisconsin, who thought the weather was downright balmy in Orlando while the Hurricanes were shivering near the sideline heaters, just started grinding and took a 17-7 lead at halftime on the way to a 20-14 win.
This was a bad loss for Miami. It would have meant a lot for the Hurricanes to get to 10 wins in Randy Shannon's third year as coach. QB Jacory Harris had a bad wheel and it clearly affected his play.
It was also a bad loss for the ACC, which is now 1-3 in bowl games.
There is no doubt. Eric Berry will turn pro: Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin has been saying for weeks, really for the entire season, that safety Eric Berry is going to turn pro after Thursday's Chick-fil-A Bowl. The fact is that Berry, from Fairburn, is ready for the league and is going to be a great pro. He has nothing left to prove at this level and given his various injuries, it is time to move on.
And don't forget this: Having a Tennessee player stand up with Commissioner Roger Goodell on the first day of the NFL Draft never hurts recruiting.
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December 30th, 2009
9:33 am
…continues to spout the obvious, and get paid for it!
December 30th, 2009
9:35 am
Comments in response to Tony—-
1. Yup. No kidding. College football fans need to be careful what they wish for. If the BCS were expanded/replaced with a four-team playoff or better yet, a post-bowl game playoff that used the four BCS bowls as quarterfinals (a de facto 8-team playoff), the other 115 or 111 Division I teams would be left with pretty much meaningless seasons. The ability to expand to 16 or 32-team playoffs would expand the season deep into January and would also begin to destroy the meaning of the regular season. Something to think about.
2. What a mess Leach is in. How does this guy go from being one of the hot tickets in college football at the end of 2008 to a probable pariah in 2009. Wow.
3. Bad loss for Miami and the ACC. The conference desperately needs FSU and Miami to step up and return to prominence. A bowl win over Wisconsin could have been the next step for Miami, but things are rarely as bad they seem. It was not a blow-out loss. Stay tuned for 2010.
4. Yup. No Kidding, Part II. Berry is ready.
December 30th, 2009
9:36 am
Less than half of Americans wanted health care reform and that was rammed down our throat.
December 30th, 2009
9:36 am
Let's quit writing/talking about a playoff till we can see the light at the end of the tunnel. It's a mess with all the TV contracts, the true fear of screwing up the regular season and messing with the bowl games.
Jacory Harris looked like Manute Bol last night. The kid has got to add some muscle and poundage or he will disappear some night under a pile.
I hope Leach gets to coach this weekend and then get's canned. Can't wait to see the Leach/James circus on ESPN (not).
December 30th, 2009
9:38 am
Totally agree with you on Leach. Arrogance sometimes comes with a price. If my son had been treated that way, I would be backing up my lawyer's truck to the university pay window. Some of these coaches do not seem to realize that the "good old days" are long gone. And that is a good thing. Good writing Tony.
December 30th, 2009
9:39 am
So the fans want a playoff? So the NCAA & the Presidents do not care what the fans want?
Is there anything new in those two questions. If the fans want a playoff, it's simple, stop buying tickets to the bowl games. There will be a playoff the following year.
December 30th, 2009
9:42 am
I am a Tech fan & I can say that the ACC has a problem when it comes to bowl games. The problem is that they do not win the bowl games. And until the ACC teams start winning their bowl games they will just have to live with the image of piss-poor football. That is just the way it is.
December 30th, 2009
9:43 am
So a play off system would take until late Jan., early Feb.!!!
December 30th, 2009
9:43 am
4-team playoff would have meant an undefeated team left out this year – it's not enough. 16 teams, all conference champs get in, plus a couple of at-larges. The FCS seems to have no problem pulling it off.
Mike Leach is done at TT.
From an ACC fan, UNC and BC were heavily over-matched, Clemson did OK, Miami's an embarrassment. The ACC very well may not win another game this year – sad.
Eric Berry's been a man among boys since his soph year in high school – congrats to him and his family.
December 30th, 2009
9:44 am
I lean toward a playoff, but tb's point, how to do it is the question. 4 teams, 8 teams? Any way you do it, there will always be controversy and angry fans, "Why is my team ranked 5th, when we beat so and so, who beat so and so, etc. that beat number 4." The pro-playoff people think that a playoff is the ultimate answer, it probably isn't, let's just leave it the way it is and enjoy the contoversy the way it is now, we're all so good at it.
Although it does seem like every team is in a Bowl game, there are so many, I have watched more Bowl games this year, there have been some great matchups, I've been very entertained.
December 30th, 2009
9:47 am
You can keep the old bowl structure and have an 8 team playoff. You take the final 8 ranked teams and seed them 1-8. The higher seeds play their games at home. These games take place 2 weeks after the reg season ends or the sat before christmas. Then you have 4 teams left. These two games take place in rotating bowl locations. And then the nat champ game also takes place at a rotating bowl ie the orange, sugar, fiesta, rose. One major bowl each year gets to choose 2 teams who don't make the 8 team playoff. The semifinal games would take place around new years sandwiched in between other bowl games(maybe on jan 1st) and then the final would take place a week or two later. This system would kick ass.
December 30th, 2009
9:47 am
I remember after the opening game between Florida State and Miami, which was less ugly than normal over the last several years, that most people were saying they were back. My reaction was that there was no way to tell since they'd played each other. Now their combined records are 15-11. Looks like they're not back.
Leach is a pudgy bully. One of these days a Leach or Mangino (morbidly obese, can't walk 10 steps without panting but demands discipline from his players) or Leavitt will push a kid too far and get his rear end whipped in front of his team. It can't happen soon enough as far as I'm concerned.
December 30th, 2009
9:48 am
Eric Berry is a class act and has NEVER been a quitter, even during the darkest days of Fulmer's tenure. I hate to see him go pro but wish him the very best in his football career and in his life outside football. Also, congrats to UGA on their win. You all looked impressive.
December 30th, 2009
9:48 am
Playoffs – Depending on how you set it up could be good or bad. I prefer a tournament of top 8 ranked conference champions. That way no conference is always included or excluded.
First round could occur Saturday after Christmas, 2nd round Saturday after new years, championship game Saturday after that. Very similar timeframe to what we have now.
All other bowls could still remain and retain traditional conference affiliations. It would make just as much sense as it does today. Bowls are for fun and pride today, it would be the same with or without a playoff. If you're not in the BCS title game today and go to a bowl, it would be the same with the playoff.
Quite frankly bowls today are just another game on the schedule to a fan, even vaunted BCS non-championship bowls. Has anyone noticed the great indifference shown by Tech fans to their Orange bowl matchup? Think Florida fans are all that interested in playing Cincinati?
It's a couple of days until the main bowl games and the predominate media coverage is Urban Meyer's situation, Mike Leeches situation, etc. The bowl games themselves have long since ceased being something special and become just another game for major teams.
A playoff of champions doesn't diminish the regular season. You have to win the conference to qualify. No wildcards! Obviously playing for the #1 seeding would be important as well to get the easiest road to the title.
An 8 team playoff doesn't end the bowl dreams of small schools. It actually gives them a chance to get that 7th or 8th spot which will give them a ton more exposure. Right now it would be Texas Tech and Boise State, but some years it could be a Central Michigan or Troy State or Central Florida.
December 30th, 2009
9:50 am
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December 30th, 2009
9:51 am
If the fans want a playoff, it's simple, stop buying tickets to the bowl games."
That is happening pretty obviously. Schools like UGA sell out regular season games via season tickets. Then we go to a meaningless bowlgame and sell less than 7k tickets.
Tech fans haven't bought all of their tickets to a BCS bowl.
A ton of bowl tickets are bought by general sports fans in the city that's hosting the game, which greatly skews the perception of the popularity of the system.
December 30th, 2009
9:53 am
Pago Flyer has a good point. The pros seem like they take forever. We have to remember that except for a few kids who really will go pro, the rest are in school, they do play amateur sports. Otherwise, schools would have Fball, Bball, baseball, etc. degrees, and it would be semi-pro.
December 30th, 2009
9:54 am
Of course everyone wants a playoff, and so do I.
I do not like the idea of using bowl games as semi-finals.I don't think fans will travel 2 or 3 times on short notice.
The semi-finals should take place at the home of the higher seeds until narrowed down to 2. The losers of the semi-finals would still go to a bcs bowls(just like they do now).
Last 2 standing will play in NC.
December 30th, 2009
9:56 am
I think Leach will be fired as well, but I don't like how this is being portrayed. I have read reports that like almost all colleges that if a player can't practice that he still must come to practice and do something. When James showed up the day after the concussion Leach told the trainers to let him jog the track and the trainers said he can't be in sunlight. They also said he showed up to practice wearing sunglasses something that I think rubbed Leach the wrong way. When Leach asked the trainer what can James do the trainer said he needs to be somewhere dark and Leach replied something like "well stick him over there and watch him." While I am not defending his actions and I don't think he mistreated that player anymore or less than goes on in some fashion everyday in college football at that level. I am a high school coach and I have seen kids forced to run to they puke, is that any different? Word from around campus was that James was lazy at practice and showed up that day after he got hurt with the attitude like "haha I don't have to do anything at practice today" and I think Leach was trying to get his attention. Unlike Mangino several of Leach's former players have come to his defense claiming that he always treated them fairly and this James kid is the only one saying otherwise. Also one more point if this wasn't Craig James's son would this even be a story?
December 30th, 2009
9:58 am
I want a survey to explain how the loyal fans and parents of players will be able to afford to travel to all of these proposed playoff games on a week's notice. Oh, I forgot, a playoff would be totally for corporate sponsors and TV. Is Randy Shannon not the most overrated coach in college football?
December 30th, 2009
9:58 am
For those who say it would ruin the reg season, i say huh? Uga would have knocked gt out of the playoffs had their been an 8 team playoff. Same with cincy and pitt. And auburn nearly would have knocked bama from a 1 seed to a 4-8 thus losing home field. If anything, this makes these games even more relevant.
And tcu likely being a 4 seed and boise a 5 would have played each other first round, just like they are in their bowl.
December 30th, 2009
9:59 am
A plus one or a 4 game playoff would be good to start off with even though I think it hurts the sec most since currently the sec champion is a virtual shoo in for the big game judging by recent history. All things being equal an sec team gets a title game bid if they win the sec. I think if we could then expand a 4 game playoff to an 8 game or just go straight to an 8 game playoff it would be perfect. But 16 is crazy and will never happen. And if you can't make the cutoff at the 8 seed then you don't have much credibility anyway in saying you legitimately should have had a shot at a national title. 6 bcs conference champions plus 2 at large would be perfect. But for this year of course I'm very happy with the bcs. Imagine that.
December 30th, 2009
10:04 am
2 weeks notice isn't enough? And come on. That is a lame excuse. Nfl fans sure don't have any problems doing it.
And the way I proposed it, if your team wins, you would know where they are playing by it being in a predetermined location for the semifinals. So say this year tcu plays boise and knows if it wins, it will play the winner of bama and whoever. Lets assume it is the Sugars year to host the 1/8 4/5 winners, so you make reservations well in advanced IN CASE your team wins the game and goes. How is this complicated? Heck ucla didn't know it would be playing yesterday until 2 weeks ago when army lost to navy.
December 30th, 2009
10:05 am
Why do sportswriters insist that setting up college football playoffs for I-A/FBS is some sort of insanely difficult problem? It's not. You could set up FBS playoffs along fairly similar lines to the FCS playoffs next year without much work (i.e. 16 teams, all conference champs + 5 at large get in, play all games at home field of higher seed, start the week after the championship games).
Setting up playoffs that keep the bowls happy and/or keep the BCS autobid conferences controlling 90% of the postseason money is what's difficult.
December 30th, 2009
10:05 am
Tony…you have finally done it. You have proven that you are a FOOL and a TOOL.
We had 5 UNDEFEATED: teams this year. How would a 4 team playoff solve that??
You are just an industry HACK…that is all you are.
We need a 16 team playoff. It would be the greatest sporting event in history. It would eliminate some of these meaningless bowl games and make them ALL important.
Villanova won a TRUE national championship in Division 1AA.
All alabammmer and texas are playing for is a bullshiiiite mythical championship that means NOTHING.
So Tony, quit trying to defend the indefensible. We need a 16 team playoff and we need it NOW.
December 30th, 2009
10:07 am
Or 6 teams. 1 & 2 get a bye. 3 plays 6, 4 plays 5. 1 plays winner of 3/6 and 2 plays winner of 4/5. Unlikely that there would be more than 6 undefeated teams. If so then go to the 8 team format with no bye. Still takes three weeks. Week two and three are post bowl week games.
December 30th, 2009
10:09 am
Week two would be played at the #1 & 2 home field so they have two weeks to sell tickets and prepare for the game.
December 30th, 2009
10:10 am
Tony —
You're a talented writer and I appreciate most of what you contribute. However there are times when you come across as a little pompous, which is a real detractor from your fine journalistic talents. For example:
The Quinnipiac University survey you criticized offers proof positive — based on quantitative analysis — that the majority of college football fans are disgruntled with the status quo. You infer the survey is "pointless."
Really? How pointless is a scientific endeavor based on demographic data that measures the pulse of fans who pay money, attends games, view games, and contributes to the coffers of collegiate athletics? Do you really think their opinions don't matter and that if the collective majority of the group gets in sync, won't effect a change?
Furthermore — if you actually read the study (maybe you did, maybe you didn't) you'd admit that it yielded far more information than you gave it credit for in your column. Bad form on this one, Tony. Maybe you had a bad morning and maybe it struck you the wrong way, but you were just wrong on this one.
That said…you nailed it on Mike Leach and Eric Berry. Leach is a talented guy. However he made a series of mistakes that could easily cost him his job and he hasn't done what he should have since the information became public. Eric Berry is a talent and has nothing left to prove on the college level. He'll be an asset to any NFL club blessed to have him.
Happy New Year, Tony.
December 30th, 2009
10:11 am
Week three would be the planned championship game played like this years extra rose bowl game.
December 30th, 2009
10:11 am
A Plus One model would be easy to implement. Bama vs TCU in the Orange/Sugar/Fiesta plays in the Rose the winner of Texas vs Cincy who would play in either the Orange, Sugar or Fiesta. The 4 bowls would be rotated each year. Whoever doesn't get a semifinal or NC game would take the 5th ranked team and have their choice of taking whoever else is ranked in the top 12. The remaining bowls would stay intact. This would not extend the season but the Presidents won't go for it right now.
I'm sure there is more to the story but it is pretty obvious Leach screwed up. Craig James has credibility unlike another father's player that is an unknown. Because of who James is the story grew legs. This is Leach's own fault as he comes across as arrogant. He'll be out of football for a while but someone will hire him down the road.
Miami was in Herbstreit's top 5 early in the season and they have really fallen after a strong start. The ACC is not looking very good and their only bowl win was a fairly close one by Clemson, the conference runnerup, over one of the lower ranked SEC schools.
Berry is one of those 5 star recruits that actually turned out to be great in college. He's had a stellar career and I know the Vol fans are sad to see him leave.
Geaux Tigers
Go SEC
December 30th, 2009
10:12 am
Of course there needs to be a playoff…
Now we can have a heated debate about Leach. I think the Leach thing is a non-story if is father wasn't Craig James. Putting him in a closet, garage, room, etc… do we know all of the details behind this supposed terrible room he was placed in? Do we know exactly what happened leading up to the event? Why are no other TT players bashing Leach? As another said what is so horrible about this, I am certain there are much more demanding real physical activities taking place everyday around the country. If he had a concussion and migraines from it I would think a dark room would have been a nice place to be. I know when I get a migraine during the daytime I wish I could lock myself in a tiny closet until it passes. Sounds to be like a spoiled kid who needed daddy while he was away from home. And to say this embarrassed him in front of his teammates like I have heard. Get real, people are singled out of football practice all the time and made to run, up down, disciplined, etc…
December 30th, 2009
10:13 am
i heard that Division I-AA is frustrated with its current playoff system and are switching to a bowl format to generate some long needed excitement. having nothing to play for at the end of the year apparently is where it's at.
December 30th, 2009
10:14 am
Yeah, and 63% of the American People didn't want a new health care system……we do not live in a democratic society. Tony, you're beating a dead horse…..our government is corrupt and so are the college/university presidents.
December 30th, 2009
10:15 am
Playoffs always produce an undisputed champion while preserving the regular season. Remember when the 10-6 Giants beat the 18-0 Patriots?
December 30th, 2009
10:15 am
More info on Leach comes out. It seems that the Craigs have exaggerated the circumstances a bit. Leach does not appear to be quite the bad guy the media has portrayed.
Remember Bill Curry? Goes 10-2 and gets fired because two former players didn't like him.
December 30th, 2009
10:16 am
I propose an 8 team playoff. To have 8 teams would require a 3 tiered system (7 total games, add 2 more bowl games and keep the current ones). You keep the 4 current BCS games, then rotate the second round and champion between the 4 bowls. The first year you get a 1st round game and the national championship. the next you would host just a 1st round game. the next 2 years will host a 1st and 2nd round game.
to pick the 8 teams, you take the 6 automatic qualifing conference champs (and make a prevision that each has to have a full tie break system so that the final tei break is not highest bcs ranking as we saw a few years ago) with the requirement each has to be in the top 15 in the bcs standings (this one is something i like to keep the 3 or 4 loss teams out if needed), you then fill the remaining spots (usually 2) with the highest reamining bcs ranked teams (no selection committee, all done based on rankings), with the caveat that any undeafted team in the top 15 is automatically in too (will put boise and tcu in this year, but the top 15 prevents teams from playing nobodies and getting a free pass into the game). This year this system would leave Florida out, but since they lost what would essentially become a playin game (all conference championship would be and would get better rankings) they can't complain.
Then you play the first round as such (rankings done by bcs standings): 1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6, 4 vs 5
play 4 vs 5 on Thursday night at 8pm EST (play on the thursday of the week dec 15-21)
On friday night play 3 vs 6 or 2 vs 7 at 8pm EST (play on friday of the week dec 16-22)
Saturday play either 3 vs 6 or 2 vs 7 at 4 pm EST and 1 vs 8 at 730pm EST (play on saturday of the week dec 17-23)
This gives each team christmas off, and would be after most college exams. I then propose the second round to be played on Dec 31, Jan 1 which would give the teams somewhere between 8 days and 16 days to prepare (and take finals if they did miss them). Play both games in prime time (EST).
Then the national championship the Friday/Saturday night (Jan 8-13th).
This would keep the students from having to miss exams at most all colleges, and gives them time off to make them up between the 1st and 2nd round and gives them a small christmas break at least. Then they may have to miss the first week of classes of the new semester, but most schools dont have a lot going on then anyways, and they missed so much class the last semester the spring semester proffessors will learn to deal. So It wont affect academics anymore than the current system. The schools that play in the championships will actually make more money since they play more high profile games at the end of the season. The regular bowls will (I think) still draw the same viewership/attendance and wont lose any money. The viewership for an actual playoff will go sky high (especially for the final game I think)… and it gives every team a chance to win on a head to head basis. IT would crown a true national champion.
For the bcs rankings, I would try to take the harris poll, the usa today coaches poll, the ap poll, and the computer rankings and average those four out. This would prevent any one poll from being able to control the rankings too much.
December 30th, 2009
10:16 am
Let the Rose Bowl keep matching up Big 10 vs. Pac 10 teams since they are too difficult and stubborn to negotiate any changes (they will be relegated to using two teams not involved in the playoff). Use the remaining 4 bowls for an 8 team playoff. The best 8 teams (regardless of conference affilliation) matched up 1 vs. 8, 2 vs. 7, and so on……….only three extra games. There will be sooooooo much more interest in these 4 BCS games AND then the next three "additional" games would be HUGE with almost all college football fans watching!!!
True National Championship team decided each year, more TV revenue, more interest and more $$$$ collected in the name of college football.
No Brainer!
December 30th, 2009
10:16 am
Ironically I like the 'all champion' playoff system recommended by ugaaccountant. A few problems with that or 'challenges' as we say in the Army:
1.) What about Notre Dame? They are independent and therefore not be a 'champion'. Though I personally like the idea of forcing them into a conference but in all likelihood its not going to happen.
2.) Congradulations you have just elimiated the need for a ranking system whatsoever. Though there would be a few writers. (like the one in this blog) that might have a problem with that. And considering the BCS was created to have a "One poll to rule them all" when all that really needed to happen was REMOVE one….also not going to happen
3.) there are more than 8 conferences in Division ! football. So same argument as ND.
4.) This also does not go into the fact of how bowl games actually work. The committee selects the teams and it only does so based on contracts and not on football. See this years, Gator bowl and Sugar bowl as examples. If it were for the best football, Florida would play TCU and Cinnci would play Boise State. And it would be 1 v 2, 3 v 4. 5 v 6, 7 v 8, and 9 v 10. And we would finally have the freak'n answer to the question is TCU and Boise State good enough. but heaven forbid that we actually have something that cannot be debated by sports enthusiasts the nation over.
December 30th, 2009
10:17 am
Playoff would be fairly simple to implement in my opinion. Force each conf. to have a conf. championship game. All conference champions make it plus 4 at larges that would be determined by a committee not by polls. This would eliminate the upsets in the conf. championship games that would doom a previously unbeaten. You can keep the current bowl system in this model as well. Also there would only be a one week break following the championship games which should all be played on the same weekend.
December 30th, 2009
10:31 am
I've heard 4, 8, and 16 team playoffs, all simple answers. Well here's another, 32 team playoff. It would take 31 games to decide the NC, which covers most of the current bowls. All cities with a bowl would benefit with sell-out crowds, more TV revenue, etc. If the Independence bowl was one of the playoff sites, Georgia would have sold their allotment and more, if they still had a chance at the NC, same with Texas A&M or any team. Also brings in the "Cinderella factor" which is popular in BBall's Big Dance. The process would take 5 weeks, give a two week cushion after conference playoffs, which help with seeding, and you're into just the middle of January, same as NFL. Simple. Downside, teams will run out of players, injuries, fatigue, a conference champion, having played 13 games already, will then have to win 5 more games to be NC, total 18, ouch.
December 30th, 2009
10:35 am
army jacket – These questions are resolvable
1) ND gets in a conference or misses out. They no longer have the clout to merit being their own conference as they currently are treated in the BCS. Or you could allow an undefeated independent team to get in if they are one of the top 8 in the rankings.
2/3) The only need for a ranking system is to determine which 8 conference champs get in. It would be based on the BCS type formula with the 8 highest ranking champions getting in. If the ACC or whoever sucks one year and finishes lower than the MAC champ, they deserve to be left out.
4) none of this will change until the current bcs contract runs out. All other contracts are already subordinate to the bcs. The new playoff system would legally be considered the "bcs playoffs" and would essentially just change the way the BCS deals with the teams it selects. All other bowls would be minimally affected from a contractual basis and it could be worked out fairly cleanly.
December 30th, 2009
10:36 am
Tony, as part of the Media you must understand that once a playoff system starts, even with only 4 teams, the media pressure to expand that field will be intense. The sports media, especially ESPN, which basically runs college football, have a huge financial interest in more and more games. Every year even with the 4 team format there is going to be some team left out and that will cause all sorts of screams to expand the field. And since most college football fans are like nodding donkeys when it comes to what they hear on ESPN, those screams turn to pressure. I know this is saying what has been said a million times before, but college football already has a playoff system and it is the regular season. There is no way you can implement a playoff system without degrading the value of the regular season. Look at College Basketball. 64 teams in the playoffs and there is still pressure to expand that. In the major conferences a lot games in Feb are little more than practice games ( and please don't give "playing for seeding" stuff). If I remember correctly GT made the NCAAs one year with a 6-10 conference record. Is that the sort of thing we want for College Football. Do we really want teams that were 8-4 in the Reg season playing for the national title.
December 30th, 2009
10:36 am
December 30th, 2009
10:39 am
Thanks for a great season,
December 30th, 2009
10:39 am
Look out for Berry's two younger brothers in a few years. They're better than he is, and they're in 8th grade. Fairburn Flames.
December 30th, 2009
10:43 am
1. I agree with Tony; survey doesn't tell me anything I don't already know …
2. i don't know what game you watched, but Wisconsin d-line just manhandled Miami without having to blitz, and the vaunted speed that Miami supposedly possesses on defense against a slow BigTen offense didn't seem so apparent. This game was pretty much decided when Miami had to resort to blitzing to stop the Wisconsin running game, which meant the play-action and bootleg passing game was open for Wisconsin. It doesn't matter what level of football: if you can put pressure on the QB, you radically improve your chances of winning. Give Wisconsin credit for taking it to Miami.
3. i don't know about this TTech thing, but ESPN had Craig James on to discuss the situation last night on SportsCenter and on the halftime show. Will Leach get equal time to discuss his side of the story?
December 30th, 2009
10:46 am
Atlanta Gator: "the other 115 or 111 Division I teams would be left with pretty much meaningless seasons. The ability to expand to 16 or 32-team playoffs would expand the season deep into January and would also begin to destroy the meaning of the regular season. Something to think about".
WTF are you talking about, the season is already MEANINGLESS for all those teams!! Think about it, pretty much every season, any team that dosent start out the season in the top 10, or isnt named Oklohama, Florida, LSU, Texas, Alabama, Ohio State, USC and a few select others…. has NO shot! Even if they go undefeated 2 or 3 years in a Row! (Boise State!)
College football blows! Maybe your sport can join the big boy leagues one day!
December 30th, 2009
10:49 am
Every college sport in all divisions have a playoff, except the big boys in football.
December 30th, 2009
10:50 am
1: A 4 team playoff is not a large enough field. The bowls started on 12/19. Start the playoffs then. Stop this mindless bowl madness where any team with a 500 record gets in. Playoffs now.
2: I'm not sure Mike Leach did anything wrong other than not obey the school to apologize but sometimes you have to stand up for your principals. I hope Leach wins and Craig James gets fired. If Leach gets fired I hope Texas Tech hires Craig James to coach and they never win another game.
December 30th, 2009
10:51 am
No, you don't do conf champions. That would be a joke. You do the top 8 teams like Tom said. A team not even ranked has no business making it to a playoff. Some of these conf champions are ranked 40th in the county. Just use the 4 major bowls and have an 8 team playoff. 1 plays 8, 2 plays 7 and so on. Those games take place two weeks after the conf championship games. Then 2 weeks later 4 teams are left. Those teams play in 2 of the 4 major bowls. Then the champ game is a rotated one with the 4 main bowls.


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I get asked a lot whether or not big-time conference expansion would bring us closer to some kind of playoff in Division I-A football. Doesn't it stand to reason that if we end up with four, 16-team conferences, a playoff of some kind is more likely?
I don't think so. And here's why.
Amid the clutter of noise that surrounds the issue of expansion, we occasionally have a moment of clarity. That really didn't come yesterday when Commissioner Jim Delany told reporters at the Big Ten Conference meetings that his league might look South for expansion. Understand that Delany's comment was just another shot across the bow of the SEC, the Big Ten's only rival when it comes to financial supremacy in college athletics. When you're reading all of these expansion stories and projections remember that at the end of the day it is about only one thing: The SEC vs. The Big Ten. Everything else is just conversation.
The clarity about which I write this morning came last Friday when Delany did a brief Q&A with The Chronicle of Higher Education.
Delany was asked: What should be the role of the NCAA in regulating some of the commercial issues in college sports?
I'm paraphrasing his answer but essentially Delany's response was that the NCAA really doesn't have a role in this regard. That's because the schools and the conferences should control and benefit directly from the revenue they generate. The NCAA is not there to spread the wealth: "No one questions that Harvard or Texas have a (big) endowment and don't share it with Hofstra and South Alabama."
And then Delany said this. Read this very carefully:
"But intercollegiate athletics is sort of unique in that institutions that have certain advantages—based on demographics or history or tradition or fan base—somehow are seen as the sources of resources for others that do not. I don't think that's going to happen anytime soon, but there's certainly a lot of gnashing of teeth, like why doesn't the Rose Bowl spread its revenue around to Boise State?"
Read this even more carefully:
"Well, partially because we developed it. We built it, it's our tradition and to the extent that it's successful, it's successful for our institutions. So that's essentially a home-rule approach. I think it's an honest approach. I don't think there's anything wrong with money, but life's a lot easier when you have it than when you don't."
Delany is one of the most blunt and to the point men I've met in college athletics. He is nothing if not brutally honest. His point, I believe, is that while the media, and fans, and Congress want college football to throw all the money into a big pot, hold a playoff, sing Kumbaya, and share everything equally for their entertainment, that's not the real world.
Here is what I believe Delany would say to those people if he could:
"Hey guys, let's have a little reality check here. The Big Ten and the other power conferences like the SEC have built college football, and specifically post-season football, into a multi-billion dollar enterprise. ESPN is going to pay the BCS $125 million in each of the next four years. And they ain't paying that kind of money to see Boise State play Utah for the national championship.
"The reality is that our institutional brands, which have been built over 100 years of hard work, are what bring the eyeballs to the television sets and create the value. Remember that the networks came to US in 1998 in order to build the BCS. They determined that the six equity conferences (ACC, SEC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-10) gave them the best value. It has now become one of the most successful brands in the history of sport.
"Now does Ohio State or Alabama have an advantage over other schools because of size, tradition and fan base? They sure do and we're not about to apologize for it or give it away. I work for the 11 presidents of the Big Ten and my job is to put our institutions in the best possible position, both competitively and financially.
"We've tried to be fair for the sake of keeping peace but all we get is grief from Congress, the media, and the fans who think every conference should be equal and we should just give away the equity our institutions have built. Here is another dose of reality: Before the BCS the five non-equity conferences (Mountain West, WAC, Conference USA, MAC, Sun Belt) were making relatively little money from bowl games. In the past five years those conferences have collectively taken home about $80 million from the BCS. I would say we've been more than fair."
Here my ultimate point on this exercise. The Supreme Court decision of 1984 determined that individual schools, not the NCAA, own the property rights to a school's football games. And the benefits that are created by these institutional brands will accrue to the institutions. That's the law. Delany's point is that his institutions should not be forced to give away the equity they have built any more than Steve Jobs should be forced to share his I-Pad revenue with the folks who make the Kindle.
The counter argument, of course, is that educational institutions are, for the most part, tax funded and should not be conducting business like Apple or Kindle. But I'm afraid that train has already left the station.
If we have expansion Armageddon, the conference's first and only goal will be to protect its members and to give its specific television partner (s) the best bang for its buck. College football's regular season, which is the best of any organized sport, will become even more important because so much money is invested in it. The Big Ten could decide that playing in the Rose Bowl is in its long term best interest because that way it controls the equity that it has created. The SEC could decide that its champion will play somebody in the Sugar Bowl and wait for the polls. In other words, the big conferences will become even more insular and detached from the other conferences in Division I-A because that is in the long-term best interests of their institutions.
I hope that doesn't happen. I hope that in four years we can come up with a way to have a four-team playoff for the national championship.
But I also know that the big conferences are terrified that college football might go the way of college basketball, where the vast majority of the public outside of Durham and Chapel Hill doesn't pay attention until the NCAA Tournament. The commissioners are going to do everything in their power to protect the regular season. Will it ever come to the point of the biggest conferences pulling away from the NCAA to form their own organization? I don't think so. I sure hope not.
That's why I think if expansion comes in a big way it moves us further away from a playoff than ever.
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May 19th, 2010
8:47 am
I always value TB's take.
May 19th, 2010
8:59 am
Delany sounds desperate, like a 8 year old clamoring for attention. Seems he can't stand the fact that the Big 10 has lost it's luster and has taken a backseat to the SEC.
May 19th, 2010
9:00 am
There's a little hubris going on here thinking that Delany is materially concerned about the SEC. It's the Big 10 vs. the rest of the college football world.
But you're right, 4 16-team conferences doesn't lead to a four team playoff, because of the need to include the little guy. It doesn't even set up nicely for an 8 team playoff. That said, I don't think a 16 team conference leads logically to the Big 10 breaking away from the BCS and going back to a limited deal with the Rose Bowl – there's too much money on the table from the BCS to walk away from.
May 19th, 2010
9:02 am
Very interesting, Tony. Now, when are you going to paraphrase what Mike Slive is thinking?
May 19th, 2010
9:08 am
I really don't see 16-team conferences becoming a reality, but if they do, I have to believe we would get closer to a playoff. Having say 4 mega conferences would pretty much destroy the Big East and all the non-AQ conferences so there wouldn't be anyone left to share the wealth with. Any of the teams currently in these conferences who are not picked up by someone would more than likely just fall into the Division 1-AA level…most of which deserve to be there anyway. Frankly, I'd like to see the Big Ten expand to 14 teams with 1 Big East team and 2 Big 12 teams, have the Pac-10 expand to 12 teams, the SEC stay at 12 and Notre Dame being left with no one left to play but the service academies and the MAC. In twenty years, the city of South Bend can convert the building once used for the College Football Hall of Fame into a "Remember When Notre Dame Had Football" museum.
May 19th, 2010
9:14 am
If Notre Dame would just go ahead and join the Big 10 everything would be fine. If not, I think the major changes that could come from stronger conferences raiding weaker conferences will be bad for the game. The game that mind you has the best regular season by far and is the best overall sport in the country.
May 19th, 2010
9:17 am
good piece, but i think a 'nat'l championship' will always outweigh a 'conference championship' to everyone from fans to tv networks to the colleges. take that golden ring out of the equation and the excitement level goes way down.
college football wouldn't be the the first organization to dine on the golden goose.
May 19th, 2010
9:18 am
One question I have for Delany is: why do you call you conference Big Ten if you have 11 teams?
Is that 11th team a red-headed stepchild?
Can you change it to Big Eleven? Man, Big Ten people are not very smart. I think all our SEC fans can agree on that one.
May 19th, 2010
9:19 am
Reading more of the quotes from the Big 10 meetings shed light on alot of the expansion topics.
First, it isn't happening this year. They are not even going to vote on it. So next year is going to be the big year when everything breaks loose.
Second, the drivers for the Big 10 are very different than say the drivers for the SEC or ACC were – which was creating a championship game. They all but said they don't care about the championship game and the relatively small money they believe it creates for the conference.
Third, the driving factors for the Big 10 are demographics, TV markets, and academics. They see more of the population heading to the SunBelt region and they want to be able to tap into those students. Second, they want to expand the cable nextworks that carry the Big 10 Network so they can both increase their carriage fees as well as they ad rates. Third, all the Big 10 schools are members of the AAU and with the exception of Notre Dame – any school they consider will likely be a member of that organization.
Delaney's comments are actually a nice positive for GT. While I don't think the SEC necessarily would have GT high on its expansion candidates list – it likely moves up if they think they can grab GT as a defensive measure to keep the Big 10 out of the Atlanta market. I don't think it is a coincidence that GT became the first new member of the AAU in 9 years. I don't think GT will join the Big 10, but I do think they will use the Big 10 as leverage to get into the SEC if a big conference re-alignment happens.
It is going to be an interesting 12 months.
May 19th, 2010
9:27 am
I miss the way New Year's Day used to be. Let's go back to the old system where almost every bowl on NYD meant something and had something to do with the national title race. Here's hoping the conferences will do just what Tony says here. Abandon the BCS and go back to the old bowl system.
May 19th, 2010
9:29 am
I'm of two minds about this. On the one hand, I long for the days when there wasn't this pressure to win a national championship or be considered a failure (pre-BCS). On the other, if we are going to have a "champion", it needs to be decided on the field, not by polls/computers. If we're going to have this pressure to win at all costs, then these coaches and players need to have the opportunity to determine their own destiny, and not have it be left up to the whims of others.
May 19th, 2010
9:31 am
Mike, I agree with going back to when New Year's Day meant something, but disagree on completely going back to the way it was. If we could cut the number of bowl games in half and not have any automatic conference tie-ins (thus allowing a 1 vs 2 every year and avoiding another Georgia vs Hawaii game), then I say let's do it.
May 19th, 2010
9:39 am
College football is a winning formula. Every Saturday in the fall is monumental. Every game counts. Every Saturday in the fall we all wake up like little kids on Christmas Day. So why do we always want to screw with success?? Why do we want to become like the NFL or the NBA or HNL Hockey? I want to keep waking up on those fall Saturday mornings with that same excitement and not knowing what dramatic upsets will unfold that day. Now pretty soon someone's gonna want to tell me there's no Santa Claus.
May 19th, 2010
9:40 am
Delany talks like "Bill the Butcher" from GANGS OF NEW YORK. He believes that his Rust Belt cronies rule the roost…..but I detect a bit of envy in his stated desire to expand south. His brand is a faded brand….bleached out by defeats when his upper crust teams play SEC upper crust teams. The Rose Bowl for all of it's "Grand Daddy of Bowls" hype has held very few meaningful games over the past 8-10 years.
Delany likes to "throw around the weight of the mighty Big Ten ( +1 )"………
Will Rogers once said, "Be careful when you feel like throwing your weight around….someone else may want to also."
May 19th, 2010
9:51 am
Well, if there was a playoff system in college football, teams like Bama, Ohio State etc would lose to teams like TCU, Boise State and Utah. We can't have that, can we……..
May 19th, 2010
9:52 am
Something tells me this whole Big 10 expansion thing is a lot of hot air and a ploy for attention. The Big 10 is looking up to the SEC and they don't like it. It just sounds like a bunch of talk with no action. We'll see.
May 19th, 2010
9:53 am
Agreed with Delany. I may dislike Big10 teams but thank them for keeping playoffs out of CFB.
Keep the season as it is and up the scholarships back up to 95. The higher scholarships will weed out many of the nonBCS teams that are suddenly undeserving Cinderellas playing easy schedules. The CFB season has been a weekly playoff making it more fun than any other American sport becuse every game counts. The BCS system has worked more times than not giving a true National Champ.
May 19th, 2010
9:56 am
The Big 10 network is available in Atlanta on Comcast. If they look south, I hope they consider fellow AAU member Georgia Tech. Playing Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin and the like would be better than the current scheme of Virginia, Maryland, NC State, etc.
May 19th, 2010
10:00 am
Hey Tony, how's your 401k/IRA's doing? Soon you won't even care about college football, mr college football when your savings have evaporated.
May 19th, 2010
10:02 am
Did Delaney actually say that the Big 10 was looking to expand southwards? I have not been able to find that quote. ESPN claims that one should not confuse studies about southward demographic shifts and inviting southern schools into the Big 10. Tony, did you misinterpret?
May 19th, 2010
10:04 am
Dalaney is dead on.
May 19th, 2010
10:06 am
Georgia Tech can barely hold their own in the ACC…they wouldn't be successful in the Big Ten. They would just be another another tiny stadium school that can't sell out their games like Northwestern and Indiana. They can replace Pitt in the Big East when the Big Ten snatches them away next year.
May 19th, 2010
10:08 am
Playoffs would ruin the only pure sport left other than fishing…oh wait, I forgo about the pro bass circuit. Scratch that.
Another second of these idiotic NBA and NHL playoffs and I may become a mass murderer…thank goodness there are no masses in Reeltown.
May 19th, 2010
10:08 am
the only thing i see coming out of this expansion business is mediocrity not to be confused with parity
May 19th, 2010
10:13 am
At the end of a given football season, if Boise State ranked #1 and Utah ranked #2 and they were going to play each other for the national championship they would have an audience Tony. Maybe not initially as big as some "traditional" football factories, but a profitable audience none the less. Yes, I know dollars seem to rule over integrity when dealing with the BCS. The whole point about this issue is to give everyone a fair shot. If Alabama or Ohio State or Southern Cal are going to play Utah during the regular season and get credit for beating them, then Utah should get credit for playing these teams and for beating them too (on the way to a national championship opportunity). It truly is not a national championship now, and will never be a national championship, until all teams in Division I-A football have the opportunity to fight to be a national champion. That's the beauty of the NCAA playoffs in other football divisions and other sports. Yes, I know, it's just about dollars to the TV boys, conference athletic officials, and sports journalists.
May 19th, 2010
10:20 am
Just an idea…What about a 14 team MEGA conference? SEC adds Texas and the Tarheels. SEC adds two rabid fan bases, boosts SEC's basketball identity(which I don't think it needs) by having 4 of last ten NCAA tourney champs, not sure of final 4 appearances and 6 of last 10 BCS champs. UNC would gain Football cred which it is desperatly seeking, and slowly gaining with Butch, and 14 teams wouldn't dilute the non-conference games that many SEC teams historically enjoy(FSU v UF, UGA v Tech etc). And I'm not even mentioning baseball. This is just an idea, but I imagin the money ramifications both in football, basketball, and even baseball would be huge for all schools involved.
May 19th, 2010
10:23 am
That's not his point, 1950. He is saying that the reason people watch is because of the brand awareness that the football factories created a long time ago.
A Boise St. – Utah title game might get eyeballs but they'd do it only because of the groundwork laid by people before them. Basically they didn't build anything but now that it is built, they want to profit from it too.
May 19th, 2010
10:24 am
Now I understand why the Buckeyes think they are THE only school to play football. They have their little Rose Bowl game and get a nice check, go back to Ohio and wait to play another Big 10(11) schedule. Delany has to make the Rose Bowl out to be the biggest game every year because it is the only big game the conference plays. Since The ohio state university has never beaten an SEC team, Delany has to protect his team and his conference. He will never vote to have a playoff because the Big 10(11) will eventually have to play an SEC team. And we know how that will end up.
Seems like I remember Vince Dooley taking on the NCAA long time ago about keeping tv money. I can't remember all the details, but Dooley wanted to form a separate conference for big time football and leave the NCAA. Maybe it is time for the SEC, the Big 12, and eight other schools to form a Baby NFL. The NCAA can have the Big 10(11) and the PAC 2 and the precious Rose Bowl. Then Congress can have Boise State and Utah playing in a BCS bowl every year. The Baby NFL will be divided into divisions and have a playoff and a champion determined on the field. Then the players can step into the NFL, nobody has to worry about graduation rates and the schools will make more money than the Rose Bowl could ever imagine.
Tony, you could be the first Commissioner of the Baby NFL. Now it is up to you.
May 19th, 2010
10:32 am
Reptiles Rule….while I certainly agree that every saturday right now is important and we dont want to mess with that too much. I do believe that having even an 8 team playoff still keeps every saturday important if say we base it off the top 8 ranked BCS teams. Because its not like getting into the top 8 is something all that easy. You can be ranked say #4 or #5 going into that last weekend against a big rivalry game. Lose it and you may fall out of that top 8. So the point is, the games would still be very important every week. A 16 team playoff would not be as much so though.
May 19th, 2010
10:35 am
I can see a split developing in the NCAA. There could be a Big 10 / PAC 10 alliance with 16 or more schools in each that truly separates itself from the rest of Div. 1A (BCS). The Rose Bowl would be the big prize, and no doubt they would scoop up some other bowls. The Big 10+ would control the TV Markets from the great plains to the the northeast. With the addition of Colorado and possibly BYU, the PAC 10+ controls everything west of the Rockies. If Maryland and/or Ga. Tech goes Big 10+ those Atlanta/N. Virginia/D.C./ Maryland TV markets would be big plums. And, the Big 10+ would retain its all-AAU status.
May 19th, 2010
10:37 am
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May 19th, 2010
10:40 am
murfdawg – I like the idea of a "baby NFL," but why have it associated with and funded by universities? It would be a good place to go for ex-high school players who cannot meet the minimum academic requirements that regular applicants have to meet.
May 19th, 2010
10:43 am
No GT,
I guess tying for the Coastal Division in 2008 and winning the ACC in 2009 doesn't qualify as "barely holding their own" in the ACC?!?!?!? Moron.
I think it is not a coincidence that GT has recently been added to the AAU. I think GT saw that as a leverage move to make themselves an attractive target for the Big 10 and thereby a more strategic target for the SEC to protect its home turf.
GT will be in the Big 10 or SEC if there is expansion.
May 19th, 2010
10:43 am
NFL Minor Leagues….a concept whose time has come.
May 19th, 2010
10:43 am
I agree with everything RamblinRed said except I think GT would take the Big 10 invite over the SEC invite.
As it stands today, the Big 10 pays out far more money than the SEC per school, has the most alumni, and has excellent academics. There is no doubt whatsoever, that as it stands today, the Big 10 is the premier conference in the nation.
If they expand to 16 via AAU schools like GT, Texas, Maryland, Rutgers, and throw in ND for good measure, they will become the 1 national superconference. Even if the SEC goes to 16, it will be via the ACC schools and will remain a regional conference.
Now you decide:
A 16 team national-level superconference with all members in the AAU, or in the case of ND, very highly regarded academically. With the biggest payout in the land by far. With it's own network. With a lock on college sports for decades to come. America's conference.
A 16 team SEC. All southeast. All awful academic schools except for Vandy which is itself is a joke in football. Millions less per year.
It's not even close, GT would take the Big 10 invite in a heartbeat. SEC Tradition was nice, but the future is here and it's the Big 10 going national.
May 19th, 2010
10:45 am
Tech Fan since 1950, The viewership would decline as it has with basketball tournament. The regular season would become boring just as in Basketball.
May 19th, 2010
10:50 am
The colleges should cease their cosy relationships with the No Fun League. Why should the NFL be allowed to free-ride off the colleges as a minor league? How do you do it? Simple, force all football players to be proper students.
May 19th, 2010
10:55 am
Dan, please give us a break. Those "brands" you speak of were built on the backs of all the Division I-A schools that have been beaten up by the likes of Alabama, Ohio State, Southern Cal, etc. If all the so-called "brands" just played each other eleven games out of a season, there would never be an undefeated team. Everybody would be so beat up they might not be able to field a team through December. The BCS is built on the backs of the Tulanes, Rice's, New Mexico States, you pick a school with a poor win-loss record, etc. Hey, I remember when Alabama played Tampa and Georgia played Yale and it hasn't been as long ago as you think.
May 19th, 2010
10:57 am
Hold on, there. The University of Florida is an AAU member (as is Vanderbilt). But the problem of academics is deeper than that. Ole Miss and Miss. St. are Tier 3 schools, and Kentucky, LSU and Arkansas are Dead last, tied for # 128 of Tier 2. Dump those schools, Merge with Texas and Texas A&M (AAU members) and possibly some other Big 12s. Then form an association with the ACC for a southern mega-division of the NCAA.
May 19th, 2010
10:58 am
I like Delaney's candor. Let's quit trying to inject socialism and income redistribution into CFB.
NCAA football has the only truly relevant regular season in sports. Anything more than a 4 team playoff will ruin that regular season. All pro league regular season are a joke and I quit watching those years ago.
May 19th, 2010
10:59 am
A Georgia Tech student, walking to his car in the Home Park neighborhood just north of campus, was robbed Tuesday night.
According to a crime alert sent out by Tech police, the student, whose name has not been released, parked his vehicle at 11th Street and Atlantic Drive in northwest Atlanta shortly before 10 p.m., and "began walking away when he realized that he forgot something in his vehicle."
May 19th, 2010
11:00 am
There are/have been numerous pro football minor leagues ..Canada, Europe, Arena, etc.
May 19th, 2010
11:05 am
The BSbcs is the dumbest system ever develped by mankind.
We need a 16 team playoff…and we need it NOW.
We don't need anyone's opinion to make any difference…only ON THE FIELD PLAY should determine who advances.
Think of college basketball or baseball with the idiotic BSbcs…it would be LUDICROUS…but not any more LUDICROUS than it is right now in football.
Let the champion have to earn it on the field and not have it handed to them.
And THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND that gomer Gailey is gone forever.
May 19th, 2010
11:05 am
All these previous leagues failed because the colleges have been the actual minor league system. Banishing the non-students from college football (good-bye 3/4 of SEC rosters) would create the need for the No Fun League to develop its own minor league system and we would have just as much fun on Saturdays.
May 19th, 2010
11:06 am
Those schools were paid for those beatdowns. Plus, is anyone gonna pay for a Tulane game? Please.
May 19th, 2010
11:08 am
Read in today's AJC:
"IRS goes after UGA"
Is Richt in charge of the financial records as well?
May 19th, 2010
11:09 am
You can knock the PAC 10 all you want to, but they play each of the other members every year. Take USC (and Kiffin, please). Last year their OOC schedule was Boston College, Notre Dame, Ohio St. and San Jose St. This year it is Hawaii, Virginia, Minnesota and Notre Dame. Notice the lack of Div. 1AA patsies.
May 19th, 2010
11:12 am
Ohio State has beaten both 2 SEC schools Vandy & Kentucky 3 times each.
Just sayin…
May 19th, 2010
11:12 am
Either Minor League Football or just stop giving taxes to colleges and let them pay players. Then we'll get a sense of the true worth of college athletics vs college academics when it comes to alumni.
May 19th, 2010
11:13 am
The City of Atlanta shouldn't have closed all of those police precincts.


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"An elderly single woman, who now attends our church, related an experience to me that dramatically illustrates why we need fresh teaching on the subject of Christian hospitality. At one time in her life, she had to travel more than an hour by bus every Sunday to attend a small suburban church. Each week after the Sunday morning service, she would eat alone in a restaurant and then spend the entire afternoon in a part or library so that she could attend the evening service. She did this for four years. What left her with sour memories of this church was the fact that in four years no one invited her home to eat a Sunday afternoon meal or to rest. It wasn't until she announced she was leaving that an elderly woman in the church invited her home for a meal on her final Sunday." - "The Hospitality Commands" by Alexander Strauch
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