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John Hammond's difficult reality
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It's not like John Hammond doesn't get it.
In light of last week's news that Hammond received a three-year extension, that's something Milwaukee Bucks fans can take solace in. He genuinely seems to understand what it's going to take for a team like the Bucks to have prolonged dominance.
"Oklahoma City was built with the second pick, the third pick, the fourth pick and the fifth pick," Hammond said. "The projection for our team going into the season is, if they don't have us as a playoff team, they have us right at the cusp of being in the playoffs. So we're still trying to serve two masters, to be honest with you. We're trying to win now, we're trying to do it with young talent, we're trying to do it with a fair salary structure."
"A top-five pick has a 42 percent chance of being an All-Star," added Hammond, referring to a 20-year study of NBA drafts. "In the last few years, we haven't been drafting in the top five. We've been in the 10-through-15 range the last four years, and it's difficult to do it that way.
He's been saying this sort of thing for quite a while. He knows where stars come from, he knows what needs to happen for a team to find significant long term success in the NBA. He's said it time and again since arriving in 2008.
"We've always said our greatest opportunity to get a star player is through the draft," Bucks general manager John Hammond said. "Could it be through a trade? Possibly. Or it could be through free agency, getting a young player off a rookie contract."
But Hammond's reality is a bit different than most in the NBA. Regardless of what he knows, he has a very different sort of situation facing him.
He doesn't have the luxury of time, the way Ernie Grunfeld in Washington does. The Wizards aren't leaving DC any time soon. If it takes them two or three more years to figure out their situation, they will survive. The Bucks? The NBA's least valuable team is sure to be the one that's referenced most when relocation talks go on in the future now that the Kings appear on the way out of Sacramento.
The pressure to win has been on for some time, even if the results haven't been there.
Hammond's been tasked with getting the Milwaukee Bucks into the playoffs to keep fans interested, keeping a payroll thin enough to allow for flexibility and trying to find a way out of the dreaded middle of the NBA.
Nothing is enviable about his situation and he has a record with Milwaukee that speaks to the difficulties he deals with. Milwaukee is 169-185 over the past five seasons under Hammond. He's had some hits, some misses, some bad luck and some good.
If he's working under a mandate to succeed now, it's difficult to find fault with the majority of what he's done. Sure, the Drew Gooden signing was probably too much money for too many years and even more curious was the absence of any other backup center on the roster in the 2010-11 season, but Milwaukee was also hit with some bad injury luck too. Had they remained healthy, maybe they wouldn't have had the dramatic fall off they had from the season before.
Aside from a miss on Joe Alexander, Hammond's draft record has been pretty immaculate. Brandon Jennings, Larry Sanders, Tobias Harris and John Henson are very difficult picks to criticize. You could maybe make a case that Jennings has been surpassed by Ty Lawson or Jrue Holiday, but he's basically on par or better than every player picked after him. Likewise with Sanders, Harris and Henson.
So he's been fine as a talent evaluator and quick to fix any missteps with veterans (John Salmons, Stephen Jackson and Corey Maggette come to mind).
But, as he has noted in the past, it's pretty difficult to find an All-Star picking between 10 and 20 every season and without an All-Star the Bucks are pretty much in the same position they've been in forever. As Hammond has succeeded in the draft, he's struggled to find the piece or pieces to move the Bucks from fringe playoff team to something more. Of course, there aren't a ton of those pieces floating around on the trade market.
So what's he supposed to do? What are the Bucks supposed to do?
That's been the tough question facing the team for quite some time. It seems like Hammond and the Bucks will stay the course. This season has been an encouraging one, as Sanders has developed and Henson has flashed some serious potential. Milwaukee has some young pieces. If they get enough of those, it's possible that they can swing a big deal and find a James Harden of their own.
Until then, the Bucks will keep moving forward, trying to win games and make the playoffs. It's not necessarily the perfect reality, but it's the one we're stuck with. Whether it's John Hammond or someone else in the GM role, this franchise isn't going to change. Given that reality, Milwaukee could do worse than having Hammond in the drivers seat for another three years.
He gets it. Now Bucks fans just have to have faith that he can be that rare GM that can win now and win later.
About the Author (Author Profile)Jeremy Schmidt writes the Milwaukee Bucks blog Bucksketball. He founded it in January of 2009 because he hated his job. It's like basketball, but with Bucks instead of basket. I know ... I'm sorry. He might come off as a bit negative, but I'm really not so bad. He just wants the Bucks to succeed, so he points out areas where they are coming up short. Someone has got to do it and he's ornery and opinionated enough to take on that task. He isn't sure if this should be in third person or not. Contact him at firstname.lastname@example.com if you must use e-mail.
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You're wrong Jeremy. The succeed now card should not be used. We've been doing the succeed now theory and it ends up in a first round loss or a low lottery pick, which doesnt end up in All Stars or even All Star considerations. If we're going to try succeed now, make some more trades, take gambles on guys not named Gooden or Ersan or Salmons, make some headlines! Those arent succeed now guys. Those are guys that will help Hammond keep his job. Succeed now doesnt always mean sign middling players, succeed now could mean shuffling the deck and getting into the top 5 of the draft. Hammond is trying to kill two birds with one stone and his current philosophy will never change, for better or worse. Get him outta here.
You mention in order to win now you have to make gambles on guys not named Gooden/Ersan/Salmons. Who would you like them to go after? Big name free agents do NOT want to come to Milwaukee for two reasons: 1. it is not a popular city. Its cold and boring (compared to other cities) 2. It is not a winning program. FAs will ignore a city's unpopularity if it means they can win (see George Hill and David West in Indiana).
The Bucks DO need to make the playoffs in order to attract the free agent talent. In the meantime regarding trades, Hammonds in 3 years turned Salmons>Maggette>Jackson> Ellis. A pretty solid progression. Is tanking an option? No because the bottom 1/3 of the league is positively atrocious.
Hammonds was brought here to build around Bogut. With Boguts injury forcing his hand, he has now had to rebuild a completely new kind of team. I think he has done a pretty good job of that.
I think he has done a pretty good job as well, but to answer your question – Rather than Gooden/Maggette/Salmons/Jefferson/Jackson/Ellis I would like the bucks to go after any player that has a short term contract that gives the team flexibility going forward. It is inarguably better to be bad than to lock yourself into mediocrity via bad long-term deals.
Also, maybe Dwight Howard is not coming here, but MKE can lure in meaningful talent in FA if they have the cap-space.
I think the funny thing is that the there is so much insistence that the Bucks must make the playoffs to keep the fans intrigued. Well this team we have here in 2013 is going to make the playoffs and attendance and interest in the Bucks is still abysmal.
The excitement generated by getting a top 5 draft pick will do much more to draw interest into this team than a first round playoff exit. Like I said, attendance is already abysmal so why not roll the dice and trade some of the core parts of this roster for draft picks and short term baggage necessary to balance salaries.
There's no simple solution here but I question whether being the 7/8 seed will really help the teams chances of staying in Milwaukee or hurt their chances.
People forget that Hammond works for Herb Kohl, Herb Kohl thinks that putting together 2 or 3 seasons of a playoff calibur team is the best thing for them to try and keep the Bucks in Milwaukee. Maybe it is, maybe it isnt? The arena thing is often over looked when people talk about "blowing up the Bucks" maybe they get really lucky and end up like the Thunder. Or maybe they end up like the Wizards and Kings who are filled with lottery "talent" yet are still sub par teams. I think John Hammond is perfect for what Herb Kohl wants right now and one thing you know you are going to get from John Hammond is that he's going to try to do as much as he can to put a winning team on the court.
The Thunder aren't better than the Kings and Wizards because of luck. Thats straight up talent evaluation there.
Ticket sales suck right now, but who knows maybe the Bucks can get into an exciting first round series or even pull out a win and draw sufficient fan interest. Not so sure about that though.
I meant more so that the ping pong balls bounced in their favor but you are right they do excel at evaluating talent
it's as simple as this to me.. nobody knows more than Hammond what an uphill battle he's facing, yet he signed on for another 3 years.. that's enough for me
hey everyone who thinks we should tank for draft picks….how are the bobcats doing? how about washington, sacramento, or new orleans. all of these teams have been getting high picks for at least a year some 2 or 3 years some even more and look where they are at. look at what our team is doing this year with the small amount of talent, i would rather take the win now strategy while also building a team good enough to make trades or just succeed with young talent compared to teams holding the #1 draft pick searching for once every 20 years kevin durant type guys.
This is a great point!!! By rights, Charlotte should be the #3 team in the East by now, year after year with all their top 5 picks. Poor Jordan…legendary player, (so far) terrible owner.
This strategy limits the Bucks to hoping to make the playoffs and possibly winning 1 series. Those other franchise have set themselves up with young talent to go after championships. The Bucks will never win anything significant while operating like this.
The Bobcats, Wizards, Hornets/Pelicans are choosing to go for a long view, while there is no guarantee that their plans will succeed, it at least opens up the possibilities for bigger things than the Bucks can hope to achieve.
A top 5 draft pick is much more interesting to me than watching Jennings struggle to hit 40% and the Bucks getting swept by the Heat or Bulls in the playoffs.
Ya its no guarantee that a high pick will amount to anything but at the same time, look at what Hammond has done with picks in the 10-15 range. Im pretty sure he would be just fine getting the right guy with a top five pick
Speaking of our #1 pick in 2005….Andrew Bogut played 23 minutes last night in Toronto. He will not be playing back to back in Cleveland tonight though.
He had a nice game. All the best to you #6!
Yeah Bogut looked good in limited action. He and David Lee are going to be a very scary High/Low post duo. Very Scary.
Let's look at the last time the Bucks were relevant in the NBA: 2000-2001. How was that team built? Around a #1 overall pick and a #5 overall pick, plus a trade acquisition and a great coach. Top talent is what wins in the NBA, whether you get insanely luck (Kobe, Dirk) or draft in high positions. It's been proven time and time again. And with advanced analytics and new forms of measurement, the Dirks and Kobes are going to be less and less common in the future.
I haven't been a proponent of tanking before, but i think i may have just talked myself into it.
Except that #1 pick was drafted in 1994 and that 5th pick was in 1996. That #1 pick was in the middle of a 7 year stretch when they didn't even make round one of the playoffs. It took from 1994 to 2001 to make it to the East Conf final and loose. They made the first round of playoffs only twice during that time. Then in 2002 they did not qualify again.
You may want to go through the next decade hoping for one Eastern Conference Final loss, but I would prefer to see a team with a 50/50 chance of winning a game and making the playoffs, even if it is only the first round.
It's all a matter of personal preference and nobody is right or wrong. I just think Herb's strategy has merit too.
advanced analytics and new forms of measurement dont mean jack. No team has won through this way. Its all based on talent.
The Bucks are basically waiting on a lucky draw in the lottery or an unexpected surprise from a lottery pick to become championship contenders. Until then us Bucks fans need to be happy with the fantastic job that Hammond has done making the #32 value franchise a top-50% team.


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It's just not fair. If she gets to be 16, why doesn't everybody get to be 16? Why couldn't the whole world be 16 for just one day? Maybe then I could understand her and her wise-guy friends.
Maybe I'd understand those text messages she likes to send, a form of communication just slightly less useful for me than the Pony Express. I am as adept at text messaging as I am at plucking a banjo. Just to give you an idea, I tap out the letters one at a time, with my index finger and sometimes my nose.
My teenage daughter, meanwhile, can do virtually anything with a cellphone. In five seconds, she could type in "War and Peace." In 10 seconds, she could design a nuclear reactor with just her thumbs.
"Yo D, wuz up?" she text messages me at work.
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One Industry That Will Do Wonders For Your Portfolio: Part II
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In Part I of this series, the key players in the global fertilizers and agricultural chemicals industry were introduced, and a geographic breakdown was provided. Part II will discuss demographics affecting the industry, key inputs used, and will assess the valuation of the five most important players in this marketplace.
The Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), stated that even though growth rates have been slowing since the late 1970s, the world's population has nevertheless doubled since that time to 6.9 billion, and is projected to increase considerably over the next few decades. In many developing countries, a combination of declining mortality rates, prolonged life expectancy, youthful age structures and high fertility warrant considerable population increases that are likely to continue until the end of the twenty-first century.
The FAO revealed in The Resource Outlook to 2050, that at this time, more than 1.5 billion hectares of the globe's land surface (about 12 percent) is used for crop production (arable land and land under permanent crops). There is little scope for further expansion of agricultural land. Although nearly 5 billion hectares of land potentially suitable for agriculture, much of it is covered by forests, protected for environmental reasons, or employed for urban settlements. Arable land per person has decreased 1.5% from 1970 to 2009.
Key Inputs
Nutrient inputs in crop production have been the driving factor behind increased crop yields, but this system of farming has come under increased scrutiny because of the potential for environmental impacts from inputs such as nitrogen (N), potassium (K) and phosphorous (P). Potential risks are often widely publicized while the associated benefits of an abundant, affordable, and healthful food supply can be overlooked or understated. On average, fertilizers attribute up to 60% of crop yields. N, P, and K make up the majority of nutrient inputs necessary to sustain current crop yields. Using these inputs efficiently and in concert is essential in today's agriculture and will be even more important in years to come. In order to meet the food supply needs of a growing world population, effective use of fertilizers is imperative.
It's no mystery among the farm community that nitrogen is used by plants to synthesize proteins, nucleic acids and hormones, and phosphorus and potassium act as raw materials for nucleic acids and other proteins. These are the ties that hold together the most important nutrients in modern fertilizers. P and K come from mines and such resources are limited. Atmospheric nitrogen is effectively unlimited, but this is not in a form useful to plants. Ammonia is the most important source of nitrogen in fertilizers and this has made it one of the most important chemicals in the United States. In the past 70 years, the use of fertilizers has more than quadrupled. Farmers are using more and more fertilizer in attempt to boost yields and offset lost fertility that stems from erosion.
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Valuing the Key Players
Syngenta (NYSE: SYT) has a market cap of about $34 billion, and is the largest agrochemical business in the world. Their $10.1 billion crop protection division is number one in the world, while its $3.1 billion seed and genomics business is number three in the world. The agrochemical business is trading at 20.53 times their earnings. Syngenta is the only company among the comparables whose current P/E is higher than their five year average P/E. In terms of EV/EBITDA and P/E, Syngenta is more expensive than every company other than Monsanto. The high valuation stems Syngenta's strong presence in emerging markets and better profit margins than their competitors. Looking at ROA and ROE, Syngenta's ROA only beats Du Pont, while their ROE only beat Monsanto. Taking a look at SYT's five year revenue CAGR, the company ranks in the middle of their comparables, growing revenues on average at 10.50%.
Monsanto (NYSE: MON) is the largest company among the comparables with a market cap of over 48B. In 1996, Monsanto was the first company to introduce genetically modified crop seeds, and they remain the market leader today. Looking at the valuation, Monsanto has the highest P/E and EV/EBITDA, making it the most expensive among its comparables (click here to see Monsanto's earnings analysis). Moving the ROA and ROE, Monsanto's ROA ranks in the middle of their comparable, but they have the worst ROE at 18.17%. The agricultural giant has grown revenues on average at 10% in the last five years, only better than Du Pont.
Agrium (NYSE: AGU) is the largest agricultural retailer in the United States. With over 1,250 retail centers the Canada based company sells everything from fertilizers to seeds. The retailer is the cheapest among the comparables trading at 10.18 times their earnings with an EV/EBITDA of 6.12. Looking at their ROA and ROE, Agrium has the second highest ROA among the comparables at 10.74%, and the third highest ROE at 24.30%. The company has grown their revenues at a five year CAGR faster than any comparable at 29.80%.
Potash Corp (NYSE: POT) is the world's largest independent potash producer. With a P/E of 14.53 and an EV/EBITDA of 9.72, Potash is more expensive than both Agrium and Du Pont. Looking at ROA and ROE, Potash has the highest ROA at 13.36%, and have the second highest ROE at 30.32%. The independent potash producer has grown revenues at a five year CAGR of 18.30%
E I Du Pont De Menours (NYSE: DD) is a diversified chemical company with products ranging from agriculture to electronics. With a P/E of 13.44 and an EV/EBITDA of 8.46, Du Pont is cheaper than every comparable other than Agrium. Moving to ROA and ROE, Du Pont has the worst ROA among their comparable at 6.52%, but they have the highest ROE at 30.46%. The diversified chemical company has grown revenues the slowest among comparables. Du Pont has a five-year revenue CAGR of only 6%.
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So About Those Matthew Vaughn-EPISODE VII Rumors...?! Mark Millar Weighs In!!
The Kidd here...
I don't know how this Matthew Vaughn directing the next leg of the STAR WARS Saga rumor developed such legs, when it clearly wasn't based on any type of fact or evidence... but more guesswork and projected speculation. The writing has been on the wall that Vaughn was stepping away from doing X-MEN: DAYS OF FUTURE PAST in order to tackle an adaptation of Mark Millar's SECRET SERVICE, but for some reason that path has been ignored for some sort of wishful thinking about what a Vaughn-STAR WARS film might look like. Well, I hate to poop on the party, but it ain't happening, and Mark Millar recently spoke to Comic Book Resources to further cement the truth about Vaughn's involvement with SECRET SERVICE, actually explaining why the jump from X-MEN to this project happened... and none of it involves any sort of flirtation with a galaxy far, far away...
"What we're doing is that 'Kick-Ass 2' is filming now, and next year we'll start production on 'Secret Service' which I did with Dave Gibbons, and Matthew and I have been talking about that for years. We thought Matthew was going to do X-Men first, but we found out there were actually a few imitators of 'Secret Service' in the works. People think you're lying when you say you're not trying to get your comics made into movies so quickly, but the two reasons it happens like that is first because it's the best ad for the comic you'll ever have. And for me, selling the book is the most important thing. The second reason is because people are always trying to rip you off. Somebody will start to work on a spec screenplay about your idea. There are three other projects I know of now about a James Bond kind of guy taking a street kid and turning him into a spy. Three screenplays were already going through Hollywood about this! So Matthew and I said, 'Fuck this. We're not letting anyone steal our ideas.'"
And if you want to try to discredit Millar on the basis that he hasn't exactly been forthcoming with the truth in the past, remember... no one believed KICK-ASS 2 was happening either... until it was.
Now if you want to go crazy about Carrie Fisher's comments to TMZ about being in EPISODE VII, be my guest. At least there's some there there.
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Nov. 7, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST
*Sigh of relief*
by acroyear
Now, can we get a REAL director for this?
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:26 p.m. CST
by georgecauldron
Vaughn is doing it.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST
by DirtyWookie
I bet any money (which I don't have) that he directs VII. Probably the only way to get Fird on board. Yeah it rhymes. Im that cool
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:30 p.m. CST
Secret Service sounds like shit!
by connor187
Fuckin Spy Kids all over again!.....And no I don't know what shit actually sounds like!
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:31 p.m. CST
I fail
by DirtyWookie
Ford. Fucking Ford on board. Crappy fucking iPhone.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:32 p.m. CST
Too bad TMZ and like-minded invasive paparazzi hounds wouldn't spontaneously combust.
by justmyluck
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST
Matthew Vaughn isn't THAT good. Relax folks.
by knowthyself
He's good and has moments of brilliance but he's not the only gifted director in town. Plenty of others with loads more talent than he. His only flaw is he lacks a personal stamp to his work. I wouldn't say his films have any particular feel or signature.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:33 p.m. CST
The Return of Darth Vader
by mambrosio
Bet that Darth Vader appears in the sequels. The Empire is making a comeback and some evil new emperor wants to strike fear across the galaxy by bringing back the most fearsome symbol of their rule. It is just a costume, and anyone can wear it, not just Anakin Skywalker. Disney just got the rights to possibly the most iconic villain in film history. They will use him.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST
by DocOpticus
what up Brad Bird? Time to 'chime in'!
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:34 p.m. CST
Secret Service sounds like Wanted
by JP
Without the magic loom presumably. There's nothng new under the sun.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
The more I think about it, the more Spielberg really makes sense, except for the truckload of money they'll need to pay him.
by Danny Boil
C'mon Steve, do it out of love. You're our only hope, bitch.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
Benefit of the doubt for now.
by Bill C.
That said: Episode VII has to go into preproduction PDQ to make summer 2015, so a director has to be attached and announced shortly. And everything's subject to disinformation and misinformation up until that announcement is made...
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:37 p.m. CST
Joe Johnson seems to be the go to man for this kind of thing
by JP
He aint working on Cap 2, so I'd bet on Star Wars. Put it in safe-ish hands.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST
Seriously, who has anything bad to say about Brad Bird?
by DocOpticus
He only has a few films under his belt? So effing what? Have you seen the way he works? He loves what he does and WANTS to make great films...I could go on...
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST
Spielberg - show all these SW generation directors how it's done.
by Joey Stars
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
I'd much rather have Vaughn ....
by Tom Fremgen
work on the next Star Wars films than work on Kick Ass 2 and the Spy Kids reboot (or whatever it is).
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
Heard Harrison Ford said he'd be excited to be in Episode VII...
by J
Kind of a turnaround for him if I'm not mistaken... Just sayin'
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
Would Ron Howard be a good option?
by bubcus
He did a great job with Willow and I felt he maintained the Lucasfilm magic there. Great to hear that Carrie Fisher is wanting to reprise her role. I would love that. It's kind of nice to be excited about Star Wars again, I feel like it's the early 90s all over again.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:41 p.m. CST
Colin Trevorrow new candidate to direct Star Wars
by Bladerunner751
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST
order66: Your catchphrase and the fact that you think it's cool are fucking lame.
by tom
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:43 p.m. CST
Just sayin'
by tom
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST
Ronald D. Moore
by Joe Cranford
I want to see Obi Wan on a rotary dial phone and C-3PO with one red eye that bounces left to right.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST
by ChuckieD
No denial from Bird :) ...nor from Lindelof :(
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:44 p.m. CST
Spielberg would be a great transitional Director.
by gabbygall
From the same stable as Lucas but still has the flair and ability to tell a story. Sadly touched by the CGI brush though. Can you imagine a director who wanted a large number of practical effects for a new SW film. Edgar Wright maybe?
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
This speculation, not days old, is already making me feel like I did about our recent election.
by Danny Boil
I know who I want, but whoever does get picked, I just want it to be over, so we can move on.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:45 p.m. CST
I don't know how this Matthew Vaughn directing the next leg of the STAR WARS Saga rumor developed such legs, when it clearly wasn't based on any type of fact or evidence.. - The Kidd
by Bobo_Vision
Nordling posted it.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:46 p.m. CST
Constant Brad Bird suggestions...
by SminkyPinky
We know! We all know how much some of you want him to do it! Just stop mentioning it every fucking second! WE KNOW!! SHUT UP!!
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:47 p.m. CST
Just my opinion, if no Director named in the next 30 days, no way this happens in 2015
by JGer
Especially summer 2015. Maybe, possibly holidays 2015. Which means they will name someone in 30 days, because I dont see anyway they wont push it on the assembly line regardless of whether or not its ready. I'm starting to think they will get some unknown video/commercial director and watch the internet implode.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:48 p.m. CST
Carrie Fisher needs to eat!
by Titus05
of course she's going to start rumors about Episode VII...at least Mark Hamill developed a nice niche post-Star Wars with his voice over work
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:49 p.m. CST
I'm still utterly convinced that J.J. Abrams will direct and it will be announced as soon as Trek 2 is finalized.
by AlienFanatic
I wish it'd be Curaron, but I think that's a long shot.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
*Cuaron. Damn, AICN, give us the ability to EDIT!
by AlienFanatic
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
Pop quiz: Spielberg's last good sci-fi and/or action film was...?
by JGer
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:51 p.m. CST
@jger I disagree. The screenplay is the #1 priority right now, and that'll be Kennedy's bag. Once that's finalized, we'll see a director announced Mid-2013 with production beginning in the fall. PLENTY of time to produce the movie.
by AlienFanatic
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:52 p.m. CST
Colin who?
by ChuckieD
Dude's not even in Wikipedia
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
woot woot wooot
by neosporing
wooooot just excited thats all... wooooooooooooot
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:53 p.m. CST
Pop quiz - War of the Worlds.
by JP
Not exceptional by any stretch and lacking some balls, but solid movie.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
Brad Bird!
by DocOpticus
Cuz you have to read it!!
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
by J
I don't usually waste my time in verbal exchanges with inbred morons who lack any semblance of an actual life while announcing to the world his pathetic belief that being first on a talkback is important enough to base their moniker on, all whilst hunkered down in his mother's basement apeishly hunting and pecking each keystroke and tittering on like a four year old girl. However, in this case, and being as your attack was unwarrented and immature, not to mention stupid, I shall gladly make the exception. So, 'theveryfirst'....bite me.
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:54 p.m. CST
Just Sayin'
by J
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:55 p.m. CST
James Bond kind of guy taking a street kid and turning him into a spy
by Nuck81
So it's like Men in Black, without Aliens. Or XXX Or Team America Or countless other Fish out of water movies?
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:57 p.m. CST
Pop Quiz - Minority Report
by Danny Boil
I really enjoyed that a lot. And wait until Robopocalypse comes out...
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:58 p.m. CST
Eating is the least of Carrie Fisher's problems
by Eddie_Dane
no bikini this time
Nov. 7, 2012, 1:59 p.m. CST
So...Secret Service is WANTED?
by Chris
Nov. 7, 2012, 2 p.m. CST
Problem with Spielberg = who would follow him?
by 6000_little_griglets
He would kind of have to direct all 3 or none at all in my opinion... unless they really do go for an All Star approach and get other directors of his caliber and pedigree. Marvel was smart in terms of beng consistent with it's directors and production values in general... If Spielberg directs the first one, then it's like Mathew Vaughn for the second it will just be weird.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
Chris Colombus to direct Padawan Academy!!! You heard it here first.
by kindofabigdeal
Follows a group of 7 year old first year Padawan and how they train under the tutelage of Master Skywalker and his apprentices. (Leia/Solo offspring, ect) Republic has rebuilt but the old timers still remember the war. All of the youth only know of distant battles and occupations of other worlds. (sound familiar?) For the most part the quality of life is good and there is peace in the galaxy. But then a group of Sith followers decide to go to Korriban and resurrect a dark Sith Lord. We will see red Sith Spirits like how Obi Wan and Yoda are ghosts. We will have a new saviour show promise in the academy and start a 3 way best friendship with a ginger and a girl. We will have a former fallen Jedi (Anakin Solo?) who shows contempt for young prodigy and you begin to think he is still in league with the dark side. Luke will be very old but still very strong with the Force. At first everyone will be like, the Dark Side ain't making a comeback. It's not until Episode 11 that they see the resurrected Sith Lord that they finally start to believe. See where I'm going with this?
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
Would be a big relief if he's not involved with Star Wars.
by John Brennick
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
Here's what I see...
by DocOpticus
After the celebration, Han and Leia will be involved in rebuilding the New Republic - no time for kids!! Do you see Leia putting up with a bunch of sass talking mongoloids? No, no you don't. Luke says what do I do now? He hops on Coruscant google and reads about how NOT to build a Jedi order and get back to his roots on Tattooine. Starts a jedi school in the desert. Forms teams to hunt for other force attuned students...see where I'm going here?
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:03 p.m. CST
Minority Report was top ten Spielberg
by Samuel Fulmer
And War of the Worlds was good, until a certain character showed up at the end who should've been dead after being nuked.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:07 p.m. CST
Mel Gibson to direct - and write story about Han Solo being an anti-jedite
by HoLottaMo
Han denies the genocide of Alderaan and when confronted by Luke he becomes even more enraged, disclosing that Leia no longer gives him bj's on demand.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:08 p.m. CST
Everyone's entitled to an opinion, I think War of the Worlds and Minority Report
by JGer
are pretty lame, certainly dont think either is better than Episode III, but again, just my opinion. And if he made it, does it mean we are going to get that annoying washed out picture/look he has been using since Private Ryan (which for my money has the best action Spielberg has done in decades).
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST
Spielberg is over-booked.
by MattHooper
Just check out imdb.com - Spielberg doesn't merely have projects in development, he's prepping to direct stuff as Episode VII begins filming. So it ain't him, folks. I'm betting on Ron Howard. But I don't know. Kathy is the producer, so perhaps it will be someone she has worked with in the past. Joe Johnston, perhaps. He created the Falcon and directed JPIII. But Alfonso is still on their list and his work on Harry Potter III was very good. Disney would never agree to the outside possibility of a first time feature director coming off the Clone Wars series, but they might be pushing for their own choice. Someone they've had good experience with. John Carter tanked ... but word is, they still believe in the director. And George has a good relationship with that guy. But Disney also have utilized the expertise of Gore Verbinski on the Pirates of the Caribbean films.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:10 p.m. CST
HOW the "Matthew Vaughn directing the next STAR WARS Saga" rumor developed such legs
by -Halfscan-
Your site reported it, that's how
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST
Spike Lee's SW Ep 7: The Emancipated Troopers
by kindofabigdeal
This follows the 'clone' experience of a battallion of storm troopers as they are forced to the front lines of the Galactic Civil War. At this point in the war the clones are promised to be released from service after so many years of service. They take on the most dangerous missions and somehow survive. But soon they start to wonder just how free their freedom will be. And if the Empire will accept the clones into their open society with the same rights and dignity as everyone else.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:11 p.m. CST
Other projects are scrambling to lock in the biggies
by iluvsyfy
You know rival studios are wheeling and dealing to lock up all the biggest and best for their films, after all it is a business. Anything they can do to hurt or affect the next trilogy they will attempt. Of course in the short term it would be to reduce the pool of directors available for the mouse.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST
alienfanatic: You are probably right
by Azby
Vaughn is an odd choice, so its easy for me to accept it as bs. Abrams makes a lot of sense as he seems to be the go to guy for sci-fi spectacle right now (although I don't think he is all that great tbh) and with his connection to Spielberg it just sounds plausible. Anyway, almost anyone is a better choice than Lucas himself, so its all up from here hopefully.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST
kindofabigdeal - spike lee
by HoLottaMo
and whether they get 40 acres and a bantha.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:14 p.m. CST
Can't we get Ridley Scott to do a Star Wars movie that's not a direct sequel, but shares the same DNA?
by kindofabigdeal
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:17 p.m. CST
About Spielberg...
by Pat Hennigan
In his interview with "60 Minutes" just done recently he said that "action just doesn't do it for him anymore." Apparently, "Lincoln" has one brief action scene (Civil War battle), and the rest of the movie is political battle in Congress. Star Wars is nothing if not action-oriented, at least it should be anyway. The only good parts of the pre-quels, in my opinion, involved a lot of hacking and slashing and pew-pews!
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:18 p.m. CST
titus05 about Carrie Fisher
by m carmel
''of course she's going to start rumors about Episode VII...at least Mark Hamill developed a nice niche post-Star Wars with his voice over work '' You DO realize that Fisher still kept on working since Return of the Jedi on better-known movies than Mark Hamill managed to? like When Harry met Sally, Austin Powers, etc. And she's been screenwriting when she wasn't acting...I really dig Hamill and his Joker, but you act like Fisher just dropped into a sinkhole the minute Return of the Jedi wrapped...compared to a LOT of hollywood starlets, she's had a pretty decent career...
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST
It's sad to me to see a great mind like Millar dropping all his best projects in the lap of a guy who has no punk, no rock and roll, and can barely play his instrument
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Kick Ass was a great comic and deserved a director with some real vision and balls... Not a pasty upper class rich boy who got his job by producing Guy Ritchie films (themselves, VERY distinct anarchic PUNK movies)
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST
Steven Spielberg. Ron Howard. Francis Ford Coppola.
by Stephen
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST
by ScotiaNova
Just off the phone with my fave director & he's buzzing about this Star Wars thing, saying it's his dream gig. I told him to go for it.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:25 p.m. CST
This Brad Bird debate
by Golden_Ux
So the guy did Up, The Incredibles and Ratatouille.......so what? Personally I'm gutted Guillermo del Toro is fully booked over the next few years. Would love to see his take on the Star Wars universe. Also thank fuck we're not going to see all that Thrawn EU shite what a snore feast that would be.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST
i dont know shit about this secret service thing cuz i got sick of millar
by Stephen
but a friend of mine just hired another friend of mine to start work drawing his comic script about a james bond type guy who takes an apprentice. lol.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:26 p.m. CST
@holottamo: Ha, I didn't even think of that. Well played.
by kindofabigdeal
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:27 p.m. CST
re: Vaughn
by ScotiaNova
Sorry. That last post was a tweet from Millar when the Star Wars news broke . . . Subsequent tweets indicate it was Vaughn he had been talking to.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST
Carrie Fisher was great in Sorority Row.
by davey
The crown jewel of her post year 2000 career.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:32 p.m. CST
Disney will probably go the in-house route. Any of the pixar directors will work
by mistergreen
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST
Joe Johnston is a mediocre director
by acroyear
Keep him away from the new trilogy.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:34 p.m. CST
Given the past history of the relationship, shouldn't fans be treating the prospect of more Star Wars films with very, very cautious interest, instead of flying into a wank frenzy...?
by Aiden Blackwell
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:36 p.m. CST
joe johnston
by Stephen
is just not a good director i'm sorry. he can put a movie together, which is more than I can do, and he's not obnoxious the way zack snyder is, but he just can't pace anything well, and he gets pretty standard acting out of everybody. Nothing memorable going on. so he has SW history so what.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:37 p.m. CST
How in God's name can Millar complain about people ripping him off?
by Kelly Grimes
He's a complete rip-off artist. I always get nervous when people recommend his work b/c I know I'll pinpoint a half dozen other pieces that have done his core ideas first. And usually better.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:39 p.m. CST
Thank god it wasn't true, we wouldn't want to stop the rumour mill now would we.
by Pigdog
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:40 p.m. CST
by Golden_Ux
Nobody has any right to dictate whether someone shouldn't get excited about something they love. If you don't like it just fuck off with you pot noodle and have a wank over The Avengers.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
I'm really not expecting a visionary director, just some paint by numbers yes man. Of course I would love to be wrong.
by Pigdog
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
Re: knowthyself - Not that Great a Director...
by Halloween68
Says the guy who's never seen LAYER CAKE. Between Vaughn's involvement with LOCK, STOCK and SNATCH and his directing LAYER CAKE and KICK ASS and X-MEN how can you say he's not that good a film maker? Who's got a better record than this?
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
by Golden_Ux
Looks like a possible runner for writer. Bring it on! http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/new-star-wars-will-be-biggest-event-movie-ever-says-lost-co-creator-20121106
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
by Darth Busey
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:43 p.m. CST
R. Scott, Whedon, Fincher, Favreau should be ahead of B.BIRD
by fART kNOX
Who and (Why) R.Scott (Blade Runner), Whedon ( Avengers), Fincher (worked on Jedi!) Favreau (Iron Mans) I would even like to see a Star Wars movie by Blomkamp, too bad it would be R rated... and awesome... therefore wont ever be. Also, if i didn't know it was Scorsese, i would have loved to see a SW movie by the guy that did HUGO... just spitballin' here.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:44 p.m. CST
bixby- you're crazy...
by Titus05
to say that Fisher has had some sort of successful career post Star Wars...she's had bit parts in movies and her screenwriting career might actually be worse then her acting one...she can't even get on Surreal Life or some other bottom of the barrel show to revive her career...she needs a new Star Wars movie like a crack addict needs a hit Hamill has been way more successful then Fisher...his voice over work has gotten him more recognition then Star Wars did...you must be related to Fisher to even suggest that she is anything more then a washed up D grade actress
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:46 p.m. CST
@golden_ux: Bird only sorta did "Up".
by cookepuss
Brad Bird was on the creative team but he neither wrote nor directed it. That honor was shared by Pete Docter & Bob Peterson. Apart from the Pixar stuff, Brad Bird was also the director on Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol, which was pretty good. If you add in his cred for writing and directing The Iron Giant, I'd say that people have every right to be excited for his name to be in the rumor mill. If nothing else, I think that he has a strong grasp on character. I think that he could help restore the humanity that was sorely missed from the prequels. Those prequels were damn soulless. No charm or actual drama either.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
yo ima street kid with street smarts and skillz, now im a spy yo.
by DarthBlart
sounds like everybodys idea. everybody. everryyyyyyybodeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. everybody thought of this once, because everybody in their own mind is a street smart kid and fantasizes about meeting some washed up badass who will turn them in to a super spy and meet some hot person of the opposite sex. everyybodeeeeeeeee. but with a modern hip twist it may just be crazy enough to ... suck.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
golden_ux i aint dictatin shit
by Stephen
was I? when. I'm just opinioning like everyone else here. why do you comment/read comments if you're not interested in what people think?
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:47 p.m. CST
My Director's
by Retlaw Kciuq
Episode VII would be a safe bet for Spielberg to start off. He'll be faithful to George's word and make the transition smoothly from old to new. We'll also get one last John Williams score. Episode VIII, I envision, will take us into the darkest corners of the galaxy and I think that if we stick to one every three years, Guillermo Del Toro's schedule could clear up to direct what would be the biggest film of his career. And holy hell, his designs and he'd stick to as close to practical... PLEASE! Episode IX would be the climax, an action extravaganza and Bird would be brought in to complete the ending of the third trilogy, the trilogies of trilogies. Episode VII - Steven Spielberg Episode VIII - Guillermo Del Toro Episode IX - Brad Bird
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:49 p.m. CST
wait isn't star wars a new hope basically the plot of a street kid, the streets of tatooine, who is trained as a spy (jedi) by an older ex spy (obiwan kenobi)?
by DarthBlart
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
Glad to hear this because if Vaughn was up for it, there'd be a risk of Jane Goldman's involvement.
by Ecto-1
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:50 p.m. CST
Gore Verbinski or Jon Favreau
by JackSlater4
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:51 p.m. CST
Titus05 on Mark Hamill
by Golden_Ux
his voice over work has gotten him more recognition then Star Wars did
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST
Ron Howard????? Fucking Ron Howard?????
by Ecto-1
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:52 p.m. CST
Site needs an edit button
by Golden_Ux
Fucking iPad. Anyway what I was trying to say is the above is the most idiotic thing I've read on the entire Internet let alone this site.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST
How did the Vaughn rumor develop? AICN FUCKING REPORTED IT
by D.Vader
THAT's why. Not ONE damn shred of evidence, it was just speculation. Goddamnit, at least look in the mirror before you wonder aloud how anyone could pick this rumor up and run with it.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:54 p.m. CST
And THANK GOD Vaughn isn't doing it
by D.Vader
I didn't believe it for a second anyway. Disney is smarter than that.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
Now how about some REAL evidence. RON HOWARD
by D.Vader
Ron Howard tweeted that he had a "fun meeting" at Disney two or three days ago. And yet you don't report on THAT?
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
Cool, so it brings more hope that Brad Bird will direct it
by Just_Some_Guy
Brad Bird!!!!!
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
Another name linked to direct IIV; Colin Trevorrow
by Pigdog
Apparently, says here look. http://www.slashfilm.com/more-lucasfilm-rumor-safety-not-guaranteed-helmer-colin-trevorrow-up-for-star-wars-vii/
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
retlaw kciuq
by Golden_Ux
That would be an amazing turn of events!
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
Thank fuck
by therightclique
While I thought First Class was decent (not great, but watchable), Kick-Ass is absolutely awful. This guy should not be allowed near Star Wars. He's not ready for that kind of responsibility yet. Maybe some day.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:57 p.m. CST
There is a Colin Trevorrow rumor now
by JackSlater4
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:58 p.m. CST
Also, about Secret Service
by therightclique
Maybe these guys should watch the Corey Haim classic, Double-O Kid. It's been done fellas, and by better Coreys than you.
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
which someone already posted above
by JackSlater4
Nov. 7, 2012, 2:59 p.m. CST
Oops got my numerals round the wrong way VII duhhhh
by Pigdog
Nov. 7, 2012, 3 p.m. CST
Tarsem Singh for Episode 7!!!
by kindofabigdeal
Think if the long flowing red capes that the new Sith Lords could have. Think of the new worlds he could visualize.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
Wouldn't want someone to rip off YOUR idea about 'A Bond Type Guy' taking a kid under his wing
by Lucky13
LOL --- the best part is he has no idea of the sharp irony of it all. That, and the fact that he said the movie is just a commercial for the comic book. Can't write this stuff.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:02 p.m. CST
Safety not guaranteed looks alright. Based on the fact Lucas has recommended Trevorrow makes him immediately null and void.
by Pigdog
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:05 p.m. CST
I want Uwe Bowl
by disfigurehead
Can't be any worse.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
vaughn had me at Kick Ass...
by sambafreak13
...and lost me with First Class
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:10 p.m. CST
Ha! Don't count old LV_426 and his wild speculations out just yet folks
by lv_426
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:12 p.m. CST
Ah yes, and LV's speculation that AICN reported on...
by D.Vader
While fantastic, also had no evidence to back it up (like the Vaughn rumor). Still love ya though, buddy. Keep on keepin' on.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:13 p.m. CST
The franchise needs new blood...
by mintoncard
Keep the Star Wars Universe in tact, just get new writers, directors & cast. Whomever suggested Ron Howard is an idiot. Such a vanilla director. Fuck Opie. There is big universe to explore. Even with the expanded universe, prequels, novels and games, we've only gotten a very small slice of a larger picture. We need new stories, new characters, new planets, new creatures etc. I don't want a Star Wars movie with old, fat, bloated Luke, Leia & Han. They're just looking to cash a paycheck, not add anything to the mythology of those established characters. And enough with the politics! No senates, chancellors or dignitaries. Don't get me wrong, it's possible to make a sci-fi political drama, just make it fucking interesting.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:17 p.m. CST
Never heard of this Colin Trevorrow
by lv_426
No offense to Mr. Trevorrow, but I took a look at his credits, and I kind of doubt they'd pick him for this over the others we've been hearing as possible directors for Ep7. Then again, I never thought I'd witness something as retarded as speed freak zombie tsunamis in World War Z. So who knows right?
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:21 p.m. CST
OK...Del Toro?...
by DocOpticus
He made Hellboy II...it was like watching sesame street...ghey...
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:22 p.m. CST
I'm kinda relieved Vaugh isn't doing it
by Redhead_Redemption
He's an ok director and XM FC was pretty damn good, but I don't think he can handle the mythology of star wars, plus i want to see a director Do all three films and Vaughn has a habit of jumping ship..It kinda makes him douchie
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:26 p.m. CST
At least there's some there there.
by vanchimera
At least there's some there there. At least there's some there there. At least there's some there there. At least there's some there there. At least there's some there there. Dude.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:27 p.m. CST
The reason to do Spielberg and/or Howard
by Stephen
is that they're part of the same generation of filmmakers as Lucas. They're all friends. They belong in the club. (They're also good directors) I say Coppola, but I don't think he'd want to do it cuz he's been off in lala Indy film land. A film isnt just what you see on screen. Its what that film means in context. I respect the old guard and I want as much of their work in the realm they came from as possible before they retire or die. When these guys were young they created their own way of making films. nowadays, people are still just taking their 70s and 80s movies and updating them with slick modern cinematography and VFX. Yeah yeah, I know you could say Lucas was doing the same with Kurasawa and Buck Rogers. But this was in many ways a generation of newness. The point is that we will get our Brad Bird Zack Snyder Matthew Vaughn Channing Tatum Star Wars movies. They're coming. Disney said new SW movies every 3 years. Just let the old guys finish up 7 8 and 9 and we'll get to keep grandpa star wars around for a little while longer.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:31 p.m. CST
The Incredible Hulk = STILL not part of the Marvel cinematic universe
by Adam D. Kline
and fuck Mark Millar. Talentless peehole.
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST
Ryan Gosling...
by DocOpticus
plays Han Solo in the reboot
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:41 p.m. CST
Mark Millar tweet: "Just off the phone with my fave director and he's buzzing about this Star Wars thing, saying it's his dream gig. I told him to go for it."
by Ali Kerim Bey
So is this Matthew Vaughn or what? http://latino-review.com/2012/11/05/matthew-vaughn-ditch-x-men-days-future-past-star-wars-episode-vii/
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:42 p.m. CST
I'm betting on Stanton . . .
by Nice Marmot
Disney can't possible blame HIM for what happened to John Carter, can they?
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST
booger_t my sentiments exactly
by JackSlater4
The new trilogy must match George's vision and the aesthetic of I-VI. When the real Star Wars is done they can bring in whatever hot shit, slo-mo, extreme close-up, gritty, grainy, dark and edgy director they want and shower it all with dubstep and techno. After Episode IX. I mean I would LOVE to see what Rob Zombie could do with robots and aliens after seeing his Halloween concert and knowing he's a Star Wars fan, but I wouldn't want him directing one of the George Lucas episodes. Spielberg Gore Verbinski Jon Favreau J.J. Abrams Ron Howard
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:43 p.m. CST
How about a Takasha Miike movie about the rise and fall of Black Hand???
by kindofabigdeal
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:46 p.m. CST
What do you people think a of Zemekis Episode?
by DocOpticus
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:48 p.m. CST
Claire Danes for Leia
by DocOpticus
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:49 p.m. CST
Zemeckis works for me too
by Stephen
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST
How about a Woody Allen flick about a neurotic Galactic Senator who cheats on his wife.
by kindofabigdeal
Only to kill her in cold blood and get away with it. It will be called Everything You Wanted to Know About Nerf Herders (But Were Too Afraid to Ask)
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
An Alfonso Cuaron SW flick shot entirely in Bocce with subtitles and an all Spaniard cast.
by kindofabigdeal
Nov. 7, 2012, 3:53 p.m. CST
Zemeckis I could do.
by JackSlater4
I would be okay with Brad Bird and Andrew Stanton and Joe Johnston as well. It needs to be a director for hire, but should be a fucking primo director for hire.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:01 p.m. CST
Okay, checked IMDB
by JackSlater4
Disney could lock down Gore Verbinski before the Lone Ranger numbers. If it's a hit he might want a bigger check to make Ep:7, or Disney might want Lone Ranger 2 from him instead. If it's a miss he might owe Disney.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:05 p.m. CST
Spielberg should hold out until Episode VIII
by JackSlater4
With Robopocalypse coming he might not want to do robots again so soon. What he needs to do is one last Indiana Jones movie instead before he hands the reigns to JJ Abrams. Harrison Ford telling a Young Indiana Jones story is what's up. Young Indy bitches.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:09 p.m. CST
As Far As Favreau
by JackSlater4
Fuckin Jersey Boys? The fuck? And whatever happened to The Magic Kingdom? Pretty sure he would drop whatever he's doing to make Episode VII.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:12 p.m. CST
J.J. Abrams
by JackSlater4
I just don't think he could make the jump that fast from Star Trek straight in to Star Wars. He's probably kicking himself.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
Ron Howard
by JackSlater4
needn't worry about shit except that fuckin Tower
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST
I like Ron but I think he's too much of a "safe" choice.
by Chuck_Chuckwalla
I have yet to see a Ron Howard movie that excites the hell out of me that wasn't Apollo 13. It WAS encouraging when he said he wanted to make his version of the Dark Tower "bad ass", though.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:20 p.m. CST
Now a Lucasfilm/Touchstone Dark Tower I could see.
by JackSlater4
In the theaters and on ABC
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:22 p.m. CST
Tim Burton!
by IceTitan
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:23 p.m. CST
Guy Ritchie!!
by IceTitan
I want a lot of slow-downs and speed-ups with the camera during a saber battle!
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
by roderick jeffrey
Well what about john hamm for solo AND indiana jones?? That would work. This is also my first post.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:30 p.m. CST
Martin Scorsese presents....SW: Ep 7- Huttfella's
by kindofabigdeal
"You jawa mudderfucker you!" "Jabba didn't move fast because, Jabba didn't have to move for anybody." Other Twilek girls, like my best friends, would have gotten out of there as soon as their boyfriends handed them a blaster. But I didn't, I have to admit, it kinda turned me on."
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
Thank God Nobody is mentioning M. Night Shyamalan
by JGer
5 years ago his reputation still probably could have gotten his name in the discussion. He will probably be directing episodes of Big Bang Theory soon
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:45 p.m. CST
Rob Minkoff?
by JackSlater4
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:47 p.m. CST
Now you made Nordling cry
by Carmen A
Mean Kidd.
Nov. 7, 2012, 4:57 p.m. CST
Zemekis is doing Yellow Submarine...
by DocOpticus
in his sleep! What a waste!
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:01 p.m. CST
You made me do it jger.....M. Nights' SW: Ep 7: The Phantom Twist
by kindofabigdeal
Our story is set in the old republic before their was sabers or spaceships. There was only the force. A power so elusive that nobody even knew it existed. Enter Lance Powerfinger, a young boy with a secret so dark, he dares not share it. He lives alone with his mother Helena Powerfinger in a wingwam on a remote planet. Suddenly there is a darkness over the land. It seems like people have suddenly lost the will to live. Not only that, but young Lance is starting to have visions of people who aren't really there. And to top it all off, their are speculations of vistors from another world. To make a long story short (if only Night would do that) the kid is force sensitive and his visions are of old force users who have become one with the force. The visitors are aliens from one of the thousands of star sytems in the SW galaxy who are drawn by this force sensitive. The gloom over the land is the rise of the dark side on the far side of the galaxy. (or it could lack of bees) After a chase by some underground tree dogs and a transport that lands on Lance and leaves him without a scratch, we finally learn that the secret to the force has always been.....medio..oh...who gives a fuck.
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:24 p.m. CST
Love this site
by Bass Ackwards
A website posts the rumor, AICN jumps on it as the a solid rumor! (whatever a *solid rumor* is). Another website posts that its BS, AICN jumps on that, of course its BS, its been BS all along duh!
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST
Ron Howard? Seriously? Yolu guys saw 'The Dilema" right?
by Darth Macchio
He's a romantic comedy director at best with occasional forays into something better (Apollo 13), to me, putting Epi7 in his hands is a big risk not likely to pay off in a decent film. Personally, I'd love to see someone like Guillermo Del Toro - I'm hoping he either gets this or gets JLA (or whatever they end up calling DC's ensemble comic book film). Perhaps if he gets either and knocks it out of the park (ala Whedon with Avengers) he'd get greenlit (and $$) for a pet project like...say...At the Mountains of Madness?!?!?!?! (and yes, i know he said he felt it would be too much like Prometheus but I've read Mountains and seen Prometheus and he's wrong. Del Toro's AtMoM would be the stuff of cinematic geek dreams!!!) What we need is someone who will, without a moment's thought, completely ignore all the baggage that comes with this franchise (like a David Fincher would ignore it tho he's probably not an appropriate choice I think). In many ways, this movie is a minefield - any director would be an idiot not to take it just as much as its a herculean task likely to garner hatred in some if not many corners of the geek-film world. The hype on this will be deafening and the heights so very far to fall. But as others said in that other Disney/Lucasarts thread, the real question is who is going to write this? This is why I like Del Toro for this - he could write it and direct it. But the question is, does he have any Star Wars "geek" living in him? I know without doubt he does for fantasy and horror and even science-fiction (cannot wait for Pacific Rim!!!) but Star Wars requires true love..not only to do credit to a property so many have grown up with (and love) but a true love of the source material that would be a refuge from the hype/expectation storm of public anticipation.
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:29 p.m. CST
Carrie - bitches for 35 years about being in Star Wars,
by Raptor Jesus
NOW she wants to be in Star Wars again. What a peach.
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:34 p.m. CST
Secret Service is nothing like any of the comparisons made here so far...
by u.k. star
It is actually pretty good (Also Wanted wasn't a good adaptation of the comic book Wanted was it?) It isn't Spy Kids, tone is completely wrong and the "kid"is too old. Neither is the "kid" old enough to be compared to the James McAvoy character in Wanted - who is as far from an English "street Kid" (Think a teen Plan B, Attack The Block, Misfits or the "London Riots" and you'll have a better idea.) This, soon to be adult, uneducated, twat who could perhaps be better than the shit he lives in is taken under the wing of that "classic Bond spy". Suave, good with the ladies, stone cold killer, and we se him put through the training and life lessons it would take to make a man out f him and a Secret agent. OF course there's all sorts of other spy things going on at the same time, but this is not something that's been seen in the mainstream before; at least not that I ca remember - I could always just have missed it. But seriously, it isn't Spy Kids or Spy teens; it certainly isn't Wanted and it worth a look.
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:36 p.m. CST
Faveau??? are you kidding?
by Cobb05
Yes, he directed Iron Man, but he also directed Iron Man 2, which was a mess of a movie. There are way better choices, Rian Johnson or Duncan Jones.
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:50 p.m. CST
Lucas anoints Uwe Boll as his chosen successor
by Rtobert
Nov. 7, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
Andrew Stanton
by saunderizer
He handled big FX and and epic storyline quite well IMHO; couldn't be any worse than the hack that directed episodes 1-3...
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:04 p.m. CST
Treverow would be an excellent choice. Plus, he's an Oaklander!
by AzulTool
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:08 p.m. CST
How about...
by Stale Elvis
Martin Campbell?
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:09 p.m. CST
Opie Cunningham...
by KonkBob
will only direct if it's a script based on a true story. Like, Episode VII The Space Shuttle Challenger.
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:10 p.m. CST
Gore Verbinski with Johnny Depp as a galactic scoundral named Rango Fett.
by NataliePortmans9inchTurd
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST
or Tim Burton could bring the Johnny Depp and the Deep Roy.
by NataliePortmans9inchTurd
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:14 p.m. CST
by paladinryan
*cue Peter Griffin*
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:20 p.m. CST
by Darth Busey
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:21 p.m. CST
Young Indy show was great!
by darthwaz1
As a matter of fact I was just watching the dvd's.. great stuff.
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:23 p.m. CST
If the Lindelof/Bird rumor is true then that RS interview...
by paladinryan
...is some funny, funny shit. "I was in a production meeting next to Brad Bird for a movie we're working on together," he says. "A bunch of guys at the table started passing notes to each other. Suddenly I'm like the teacher at the front of the class. I was like, 'Is there something you'd care to share with the rest of the class?' I grabbed a napkin, and someone had written on it, 'Disney bought Lucas Film!'" Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/new-star-wars-will-be-biggest-event-movie-ever-says-lost-co-creator-20121106#ixzz2BaOdgGWp
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:24 p.m. CST
Did the guy who voices the Joker do anything else I might have heard about?
by CountryBoy
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:25 p.m. CST
Lindelof on Ford
by paladinryan
I know that Harrison Ford often lobbied for Han Solo to be killed off. If I were producing the first movie, the first call I would make would be to Harrison. I would say, "We can finally make your dream come true! But we can't kill him off without you." Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/new-star-wars-will-be-biggest-event-movie-ever-says-lost-co-creator-20121106#ixzz2BaPKT5dg
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:28 p.m. CST
by IceTitan
Yeh he was in Star Wars!
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:30 p.m. CST
Ron Howard
by Jon Snow
is making moves to get this--and might already have it.
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:31 p.m. CST
Bernie Mac as the Green Lantern
by JeffManSixtyFo
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:35 p.m. CST
Thanks icetitan! I recognize him more from his voiceover work
by CountryBoy
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:37 p.m. CST
Now we can finally find out Jar Jar's origin story
by Rtobert
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:38 p.m. CST
id be all for an antholgy series of films to get the ball rolling a little faster.
by seabiscuits
could do theme films, like 5 horror stories, 5 bounty hunter tales, 5 pure fantasy, western, action etc... make sure quentin tarrantino, john carpenter, wes anderson, paul thomas anderson, robert rodriguez, kevin smith, richard linklater, john woo, john mcteirnan, the wachowskis and the farrelly brothers get to make theirs
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:45 p.m. CST
Breaking Bad writers and directors
by and
Not sure why no ones thrown this idea out there yet, Get the Breaking Bad writing staff have em write a Breaking Bad movie then replace Walter with Han Jesse with Luke and Skylar with leigha (however its spelled) Cars with Ships and have the bad guy be a guy with a sword. There greatest movie ever. Done.
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:47 p.m. CST
BTW, Lucas himself said, years ago, that Spielberg AND RON HOWARD were his 2 choices to direct a SW movie
by CountryBoy
As I recall, he claimed he offered it to them and they both refused. Of course this is directly at odds with Spielberg's account; but wither way, Lucas claimed their sensibilities were most like his of all the directors around. I personally think Spielberg has such a distinctive style he'd be a poor fit in terms of the whole franchise; but I'd love to see his vision... I'd also love to see a Cameron installment, if only for his great design work and the sheer world-cracking hype of a JAMES CAMERON STAR WARS FILM. And he could certainly do the battle scenes justice. A lot of the people being bandied about here don't really have the chops for such large-scale action.
Nov. 7, 2012, 6:54 p.m. CST
Fuck Ron Howard.
by KonkBob
That is all.
Nov. 7, 2012, 7:37 p.m. CST
anyone saying Gore Verbinski, go to Hell!
by chien_sale
Nov. 7, 2012, 7:41 p.m. CST
Judd Apatow
by JGer
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:11 p.m. CST
FARSCAPE. Brian Henson, Dave Kemper, Rockne S O'Bannon
by sasquatch_with_a_swatch_watch
Farscape is a good example of the whiz-bang sci fi we had as kids, and accomplished mostly through good storytelling, acting, sets and creatures made BY HAND.
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:14 p.m. CST
whoever said shyamalan
by Stephen
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:16 p.m. CST
no seriously m night would be good. good choice. seriously.
by Stephen
if we're getting a young guy.
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:24 p.m. CST
why is every star wars tb filled with requests for director?
by animas
they aren't taking a fucking vote, dipshits. It will be given to who sucks penis the best, i.e. jar jar abrams.
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:25 p.m. CST
Gore Verbinski
by D.Vader
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:30 p.m. CST
Judd Apatow makes comedies for nearly 3 hours long that should be 90 minutes long. By that logic, his Star Wars would be about a 5 hour endurance.
by Sean
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:39 p.m. CST
Spielberg or bust
by time2323
No one else could bring back the sense of hope and wonder to Star Wars while also giving it the gravity it deserves and keeping it family friendly.
Nov. 7, 2012, 8:57 p.m. CST
Mark Millar and original ideas
by otto maddox
The idea that Mark Millar has ever written anything original is hilarious
Nov. 7, 2012, 9:03 p.m. CST
Are the really considering the SAFETY NOT GUARANTEED guy? The director of a tiny, action-free indie? How 'bout Harmony Korine while they're at it?
by CountryBoy
Nov. 7, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST
Huzzah! Vaughn is completely wrong for Star Wars.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
I liked what Spielberg brought to Super 8 so I can totally see him being a mentor/co-producer for Andrew Stanton and SW 7. Make it so, Disney.
Nov. 7, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST
Re: the Spielberg "sense of hope and wonder" - Oh, like he brought back to Indiana Jones? Or how about Tin Tin?
by Jared Bond
Also, does Gore Verbinski's outrageous and pointless POTC trilogy seem anything like Star Wars? Screw Peter Jackson too, King Kong was shit.
Nov. 7, 2012, 9:40 p.m. CST
Also, see uncle-al's post about Speilberg. Even he admits it. The desire is gone.
by Jared Bond
Nov. 7, 2012, 9:42 p.m. CST
After Crystal Skull, I'm iffy about Spielberg directing SW himself
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Crystal Skull was flat, it lacked that magic ingredient he brought to adventure cinema back in his heydays. He's a changed director after Schindlers List, and Crystal Skull and Tin Tin showed it's time for new blood for the next Star Wars. However, i'm all for Spielberg co-producing and mentoring a new talent.
Nov. 7, 2012, 10:02 p.m. CST
Ivan Reitman should direct
by Jeff
Ivan Reitman is perfect.
Nov. 7, 2012, 10:06 p.m. CST
Bad/news/Bad news/good news: Vaughn is off XMFC2, he's not doing Star Wars, but he IS doing Secret Service?
by Zardoz
Shit! I would've liked to see a Vaughn Star Wars movie! Maybe Episode VIII?
Nov. 7, 2012, 10:12 p.m. CST
Dennis Quaid
by cain
I don't like recasting... but Dennis Quaid would be an excellent Han Solo. Just watch anything he's done lately... I can't watch him without thinking of Han Solo.
Nov. 7, 2012, 10:32 p.m. CST
Who doesn't want to direct a Star Wars movie?
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Every director, writer, wannabe, and their dog will be wanting to make the new Star Wars.
Nov. 7, 2012, 10:54 p.m. CST
Joe Johnston for Director - The Circle Is Now Complete
by Obi Wanna Cannoli
Johnston: I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but the effects man; now *I* am the Director. Lucas: Only a master of evil, Joe.
Nov. 7, 2012, 10:55 p.m. CST
Spielberg is the most logical choice - but doubt he'd do it
by wcolbert
He does tend to shy away from going past two related films in a row, with the obvious exception of Indy.... at any rate, I doubt he'd agree to it in this stage of his career- likely he wants to tackle more stand alone works like Lincoln. Loves his period pieces, that one. but he would make the most sense. He knows Lucas best, knows the right feel for star wars - and he has an unquestionable track record, the odd hiccup like crystal skull aside.
Nov. 7, 2012, 10:57 p.m. CST
Young Indy Show Sucked
by Obi Wanna Cannoli
Every episode the unlikeable young Indy befriended yet another famous person from that period in a mock history lesson that makes Wikipedia look accurate.
Nov. 7, 2012, 11:42 p.m. CST
Spielberg and Howard
by bubcus
I'd keep Spielberg on the Indiana Jones films. My whole reasoning for Ron Howard is based solely on Willow. Brad Bird has the sense of energy and humor as was displayed in The Incredibles. And as another fun option, though I am not being serious, is... Frank Oz. Solely because having Yoda direct would be an entertaining twist. He's a great director but I don't know how he'd approach the material.
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:32 a.m. CST
Not even the idea that Mark Millar has ever written anything original is original.
by DidntPullOutInTimeCop
Spielberg is the perfect choice. Too good to be true? But a good way to get a nice working relationship with Disney, leading into Indy 5?
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:35 a.m. CST
Brad Bird is not just 'a Pixar guy'...
by Lacobus
Mission impossible 4. Live action, and bloody awesome. Iron Giant: serious subject matter in a fun way, and bloody awesome. Simpsons golden age: funny, moving and yes bloody awesome. He's the man for the job.
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:36 a.m. CST
Also since when is...
by Lacobus
Being a Pixar visionary a bad thing anyway. Incredibles lived up to its name.
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:53 a.m. CST
'Innocence of Muslims"
by Adam Kirchoff
That dude should be outta prison and ready to tackle this bitch in about a year... so I've heard from his parole officer which is about as reliable as AICN.
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST
by TheJudger
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:57 a.m. CST
Quentin Tarantino..
by Bourne Again
Those wookie feet are so gorgeous.
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:59 a.m. CST
by TheJudger
Nov. 8, 2012, 1:07 a.m. CST
Digital domain used the same face topology rig for clu and quorra and tupac
by TheJudger
it's cheaper to reuse assets. The tracking/retargeting system. The drawn on black dots targeting certain verts in combination with the infrared 3d camera tracking system. Thats why they reused the same topology models, but the human face is like a snowflake, they wont be able to use the same topology for all the cgi de-aged face. I'm tell you this is going to be a monumental challenge to pull off. It is bigger in it's challenge than avatar. If you think we are going back star wars with the cast memeber being native 60 years olds, you're fucking crazy. It's a damn space adventure. These guys are getting de-aged.
Nov. 8, 2012, 1:34 a.m. CST
re: thejudger on Star Wars and Tron Legacy
by bubcus
Hamill is age appropriate for 7,8, and 9. He'll be playing a Jedi Master akin to Obiwan Kenobi in 4,5, and 6. The story will probably follow entirely new characters alongside R2-D2 and C-3P0. So if we do get Luke, Leia, and Han, it would be in limited capacity. As to the CG Clu and Flynn in Tron Legacy. They didn't get the mouth quite right but they they were close. My only frustration with the film was that the conclusion should have been more developed and have more of a cliffhanger to pump up the audience for a sequel. I am crossing my fingers we'll see Tron 3 despite the Star Wars news.
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:12 a.m. CST
by Chrispmcfc
Can do franchise without fucking it up. Self-references in Skyfall bordered on nudge nudge - wink wink but he got it just on the right side of credibility. Who's writing is more important anyhow.
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:20 a.m. CST
How about Three directors?
by RodMan
The original trilogy had three different directors. So how about Brad Bird for Ep. 7, Del Torro for 8, and Neill Blomkamp for 9? Other possibilities would be Ron Howard, Spielberg, Ben Affleck, or Jon Favreau. I would be happy with any of these combinations
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:48 a.m. CST
We should keep listing every director who has ever made anything genre related over and over again like it's the first time anybody has mentioned that particular one
by TheUmpireStrokesBach
Maybe the internet should be shut down until Episode VII hits as these threads are getting more than a bit redundant. STAR WARS + internet = Every self-appointed expert/authority on nerd culture whining and moaning about how it should be done like they know fuck-all about it. It's tiresome.
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:54 a.m. CST
by johnnyg korrupt
7 -Spielberg/jackson/nolan/cameron 8 Fincher/aronofsky/blomkanmp. 9 Bird/bigelow Aim high guys
Nov. 8, 2012, 3:05 a.m. CST
Carrie Fisher was supposed to be on Craig Ferguson tonight, and now she's not. Hmmmm.
by AzulTool
Nov. 8, 2012, 3:37 a.m. CST
by pearlanddean
Wow suddenly AICN can refute rumours because they know best. There hasn't been any original news here for some time, it's all crap pasted from other well-informed sites. To act all smug and knowing because someone else shot down the Vaughn rumour is laughable. This site has gone to hell, most of the articles aren't really news items at all. Some of the opinion pieces are a joke (The Matrix trilogy was what now?) and Harry's contributions are increasingly sporadic and make no sense when they do arrive. What happened to the DVD/Blu reviews? One of the few things I enjoy here and it seems to have disappeared. I only come here for the talkbacks but even that is becoming painful. I've read people dissing They Live and Hellboy 2, you fucks should hand in your geek cards right now. This used to be a great place but now, I dunno, it's a sad shadow of it's former glory.
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:03 a.m. CST
Jake Lloyd's making his directorial debut, with Jett Lucas writing. You heard it here first.
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:27 a.m. CST
I think they'll eventually call George Lucas back...
by Ricardo
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:35 a.m. CST
Ben Affleck +1. Guy can direct gritty action movies.
by SmallTuna
Nov. 8, 2012, 5:01 a.m. CST
for me, selling the book is the most important thing.
by JAMF
mark millar, what a guy!
Nov. 8, 2012, 6:18 a.m. CST
So SECRET SERVICE
by TiPPiDa
Is Wanted OR Leon OR XxX Etc anything but original My choices for directors of Eps 7-9 7) Steven Spielberg/Brad Bird (Light in themes, epic in scope, proven guys who can direct and add heart, add to the characters and to the story without adding too much of themselves like Edgar Wright, Zac Snyder, Chris Nolan etc would) 8) David Yates (should be a bit more personal smaller in scope and Dark as fuck thematically, something that will turn the SW universe on its fucking head, deaths of major players hope is lost, unrelenting, unforgiving, main protagonist turns, people die no coming back from it. Empire strikes back mashed up with the Omen... Bad guys win this round) 9) Andrew Stanton (Largest scale, Dark, sad and then triumphant as a honeymooners cock in the finale.. Good guys win forever).
Nov. 8, 2012, 6:53 a.m. CST
Lars von Trier's Star Wars
by Itchy
If he could talk Kirsten Dunst into finally showing those sweet tits, he can surely talk Natalie Portman into doing some pointless topless flashback in SWVII, right ?
Nov. 8, 2012, 7:03 a.m. CST
Mark Millar
by masteryoda007
Fuck the haters. I have met him twice and he is a cool guy. Cooler than any cunt on this website, that's for sure.
Nov. 8, 2012, 8:56 a.m. CST
Has anyone taken 'carrie_fishers_coke_nail' as a talkbacker handle?
by Pat
Some lucky soul is going to get a very long run on here with that one if it's not already taken!
Nov. 8, 2012, 8:59 a.m. CST
Itchy....a von Trier Star Wars would be EPIC in it's Childhood Raping Potential.
by conspiracy
Nov. 8, 2012, 9:10 a.m. CST
Carrie Fisher Gotta Diet!
by TheBaxter
if she wants to fit back in that metal bikini, that is.
Nov. 8, 2012, 10:16 a.m. CST
fanboys are hung up on this youth and attractiveness thing
by Stephen
oh wait so is everybody everywhere ever. But really I cant imagine theyd really try to digitally de-age everybody or make carrie fisher get skinny or any of these crazy things people are suggesting. These movies will take place after the OT. So duh, they're older. people get old in the SW universe too. Oh so Carrie Fisher gained weight. Like nobody would believe her in the role? please. Some people get fat when they get old. like that shit wouldnt happen in space. If they want Leia in the movie they should write a Leia thats Fishers age. Same goes for Han and Luke.
Nov. 8, 2012, 10:18 a.m. CST
tippida -- I was thinking the same thing, Leon or Nikita
by lv_426
Of course, that doesn't mean Secret Service can't be good. I like the angle of having a really suave James Bond type in the mentor role.
Nov. 8, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST
Vaughn isn't fit to direct an episode of Jason of Star Command
by Crimson Dynamo
There is a list of people from the same "school" of directing if you will - Spielberg, Ron Howard, Joe Johnston, Zemeckis, Dante - that's who they should be looking at
Nov. 8, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST
Massawyrm and Moriarty to direct Episode VII
by rsdrum
I am *SO* banned.
Nov. 8, 2012, 10:51 a.m. CST
Keep Del Toro and Peter Jackson away from these movies.
by Ironhelix
For the love of GOD keep them away.
Nov. 8, 2012, 10:57 a.m. CST
Yeah I got this name for directing Ep7, but Im a bit embarassed to share with you guys...but here it goes...
by Ricardo
Roberto Benigni
Nov. 8, 2012, 11 a.m. CST
Del Toro,Neil Blomkamp,Joss Whedon,Christopher Nolan,Sam Raimi or what about Drew Goddard
by JohnWayneWasGay
Nov. 8, 2012, 11:16 a.m. CST
Dear people bitching about Mark Millar claiming his Secret Service idea as original
by lv_426
Yes, Millar bitched a bit off the cuff in the first place about an idea that is not overwhelmingly original in the first place, but beyond that so what? Seriously, originality is overrated these days. Not that writers and filmmakers shouldn't strive for originality, but just that the more original a concept for a story or film, then what? The actual mechanics of the story and character development and themes that are presented are more important overall than originality for the sake of being the first writer or filmmaker to plant a flagpole in a specific story or trope. These days, after we've had millennia of myth, centuries of prose, and over 100 years of cinema, as well as nearly half a century of narrative video games, it isn't as much about original concepts as it is about the actual execution of said story idea. The fact is as more and more stories are told, the margin for originality grows thinner as time marches on. The fact that storytellers go back to old classics and strong archetypes for inspiration is not a bad thing, as long as they are trying to add new ideas and themes to these old story structures. So yes, Mark Millar's Secret Service might be a bit like Nikita or Leon, or even Star Wars in that it has the apprentice/mentor archetype running through it, but so do tons of other stories in all variations of genre, going back to ancient days. Of course pure originality will rear its mysterious head from time to time. The thing we have to remember is that pure originality is not the bread and butter of storytelling. Plot, character, and themes that can have an added twist to reinvigorate old archetypes are what drives storytelling. It is important to recognize that, as otherwise we as readers and film watchers will go mad and end up hating every new story told to us.
Nov. 8, 2012, 12:36 p.m. CST
Frankly, I'd rather see Jabba in the bikini than current Fisher
by Shankapotomus
Nov. 8, 2012, 1:27 p.m. CST
Nobody is going to remember "Kick Ass 2" by the time Star Wars Episode 7 comes out
by Cotton_Mcknight
Hell I wouldn't remember the first one were it not known as the movie where a little girl gets beaten up.
Nov. 8, 2012, 1:35 p.m. CST
Brad Bird doesn't come with a John Williams. Spielberg does.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 1:38 p.m. CST
I would feel bad if this trilogy was an abortion, like the Harry Potter francise. One director, please. I know you'll say 3 directors did the OT, but really, Lucas was the visualist. Let there be a single vision. Spielberg.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 1:39 p.m. CST
Oh, and fans of the new directors, you can have whoever you want for Boba movies, etc.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 1:50 p.m. CST
Disney will hire Verbinksi to do it
by twogunjames
They guy has been cashing their checks for years now.
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:01 p.m. CST
James Bond kind of guy taking a street kid and turning him into a spy
by deelzbub
The Professional comes to mind
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST
Fisher is not fat anyone...geez...people can lose weight...you nerds should try it.
by Dan
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:20 p.m. CST
by Dan
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:42 p.m. CST
That interview with Millar was done before the Disney announcement
by Bladerunner751
Mark Millar sheds more light on this on a blog post he put up today. He hinted that Vaughn is still a strong possibility to direct Star Wars.
Nov. 8, 2012, 2:55 p.m. CST
Whomever is finally chosen to direct SW7, let's hope he understands the concept "less is more"
by BrannigansLaw
Lucas kept futzing with the original trilogy and all he did was fill up the all-important spaces with unnecessary clutter. The true essence of Star Wars is the spaces in-between. Not many truly *get* that concept.
Nov. 8, 2012, 3:01 p.m. CST
I know everybody hated Superman Reutrns but I thought the music was good
by Stephen
They used the Williams theme well enough. I mean it wasn't Williams but it was still pretty good.
Nov. 8, 2012, 3:08 p.m. CST
Pardon me but...
by Ender's Jeesh
Shouldn't the next SW film be Episode XII?
Nov. 8, 2012, 3:38 p.m. CST
George Lucas Directing
by Retro
I really want to see Lucas decide to direct this last trilogy, or at least ep. 7. Maybe he can have a writing partner for them too. I just feel that these 3 films will lose that magic feeling that are in the star wars feeling, and in the prequals, which i love. George Lucas will keep that magic. He has a great imagination. He really needs to use it more often. And i hope he does do some smaller independent films someday. I also think a good idea for Disney would be to hire a writer that has written novels for the Star Wars expanded universe. Like Timothy Zahn- his books were very, very well received. Im not saying adapt the Thrawn Trilogy (they only took place like 5 years after ep. 6, so the actors are way too old anyways). But i think it would work great if they hired him to write episodes 7 8 and 9. Or anothe EU novelist. Or just another great sci-fi novelist, like Robert J Sawyer or Iain Banks. Also, i dont think the new episodes 7 8 and 9 dont have to cancel out the Thrawn Trilogy. The new movies should takes place much later when Luke and Han solo will be old men.Maybe the new trilogy can be about Luke Skywalkers son. i think thats a great idea. So, if you look at the series as a whole, it's kind of a generational thing. Its perfect. And it wont have to cancel out the Thrawn trilogy.
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:15 p.m. CST
I gotta say HEEEEELLLL NOO to that fucking Toy Story 3 scribe.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:19 p.m. CST
Lucas is a staunch individualist. How can a non-individualist write a Star Wars? Look at the MESSAGES in the films people write.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:27 p.m. CST
retrotylenol, nothing would be wrong with Lucas as director, and yes folks, I have seen Plinkett's reviews
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:28 p.m. CST
booger_t Nobody should do Williams but Williams, and Superman Returns score was just awful. It's a pretend Williams score.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
The more I think about it, the more I think Lucas just sold this to watch the world burn. Lucas bashers deserve having Star Wars on such wobbly ground.
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 4:33 p.m. CST
FUCK! "Informed sources tell Vulture that Star Wars: Episode VII has found a leading candidate to write the film's screenplay: Michael Arndt, the Pixar favorite who was nominated for an Oscar for Toy Story 3, won an Oscar for Little Miss Sunshine, and wro
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 5:28 p.m. CST
I will not spend money to see other actors play Luke, Han, and Leiha. I will not pay to see the Beatles with Julien Lennon. My TV is geat. If you dare recast those iconic characters, I will wait for cable. I don't give a fuck! I'm an adult, with a lif
by AzulTool
Nov. 8, 2012, 5:30 p.m. CST
Please forgive my typos, I'm on vacation and I'm drunk, but you get my sentiment
by AzulTool
Nov. 8, 2012, 6:42 p.m. CST
I will not pay money to hear some John Williams fakir compose all over a non-Lucas fake Star Wars movie planned by executives
by Fuck disney with a rusty chainsaw
Nov. 8, 2012, 7:38 p.m. CST
jeshopk - you don't like Muslims or what?
by TheUmpireStrokesBach
fa·kir (f-kîr, fä-, f-) n. 1. A Muslim religious mendicant. 2. A Hindu ascetic or religious mendicant, especially one who performs feats of magic or endurance.
Nov. 8, 2012, 11:44 p.m. CST
Jeshop, they also said that Speilberg, Bird, and Abrams will be offered the job first
by ganymede3010
No way all 3 of them are going to turn it down. While I'm not a J.J hater, I would prefer Steven or Brad for this gig.
Nov. 8, 2012, 11:58 p.m. CST
Hamil, Ford, and Fisher are a foregone conclusion, no need to worry.
by ganymede3010
I also want to Ian McDirmid (Remember he allegedly knows how to "cheat death") Jimmy Smits, and ofcourse Billy D.
Nov. 9, 2012, 12:15 a.m. CST
Jeshop, no one is questioning the creative prowess of George Lucas
by ganymede3010
It's his ability to write and direct is what most of us have a problem with. To become an a-list writer it takes hours of repetition, and once you reach the level of being an elite writer and story teller you have to continue to put in an astronomical amount of hours to maintain it at that elite level. Geroge Lucas took a 10+ year hiatus from writing and directing since he had the time consuming responsibility to manage his vast empire, as a result, his writing and directing abilities waned as a result. While George still has some great ideas his movies will be best served by allowing the best in the each individual profession to tackle the job, including but not limited to writing and directing.
Nov. 9, 2012, 8:48 a.m. CST
Mark Millar accusing other people of stealing ideas is hilarious.
by Stegman84
That is all.
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