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LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – The Southeastern Conference has a message for any University of Kentucky fans who have not finalized their plans to attend the league tournament in Nashville:
The record for the smallest crowd for any Southeastern Conference Tournament session had been 8,047, set in 1996 in that basketball paradise known as New Orleans.
Step away from the front of the line, Louisiana.
There's a new leader in the clubhouse – Tennessee.
The reported crowd for Wednesday night's opening SEC session was 7,879. That's the lowest number since the SEC resumed its post-season party in 1979.
There were skeptics on Twitter wondering about the generosity of that number. In fact, Jerry Tipton of the Herald-Leader counted the crowd in the upper arena during the Auburn-Texas A&M game and came up with 70 people.
I'll never forget the scene from the SEC tournament in 2012 in New Orleans. Kentucky played Louisiana State in the Friday quarterfinal session, and the home-area Tigers were lucky if they had 100 people in the building. Next thing you knew Trent Johnson was out the door to coach TCU.
Without Kentucky fans, there is no SEC basketball tournament.
They cannot get to Nashville quickly enough.
*Of course, the SEC could fix its problem by adding the KFC Yum! Center to the rotation of arenas where the tournament is played. Comparing Louisville to Nashville, New Orleans or Atlanta as a basketball town is like comparing Nick Saban to any other college football coach.
I understood when the SEC did not bring the tournament to Freedom Hall. Organizers prefer to drop the tournament in a downtown area where fans can walk to the games – and restaurants and sports bars.
But there's no excuse now. The SEC is missing a grand opportunity to showcase its event by not including Louisville in the rotation.
I've heard the complaints that Kentucky fans would overwhelm the scene. Kentucky fans already overwhelm the scene in Tennessee, Louisiana and Georgia.
Why not promote a basketball event in an area where people actually follow basketball?
*The Wildcats will open against either Vanderbilt or Arkansas on Friday. If the hometown Commodores are fortunate to defeat the Razorbacks on Thursday, Vandy coach Kevin Stallings is not expecting much love at a 'neutral' site on Friday.
"I've got a feeling there's going to be more people in blue even than black and gold," Stallings said. "I'll still bet on more people in blue.
"You feel like you're playing them on a homecourt. You feel they've … a lot of times you feel like Rupp Arena transferred to a different city. You have to admire the way their fans support and travel and do those things."
*Interesting question delivered by Dan Dakich, the ESPN college basketball analyst, to me when I joined him on his radio show Wednesday:
If somebody gave you Louisville, Indiana and Duke against the field in the NCAA Tournament, would you take the three Top Five teams or ride with the other 65?
Dakich would take U of L, IU and Team Krzyzewski.
Considering that the story line in college basketball this season has been parity, parity, parity and wise tournament veterans such as Louisville coach Rick Pitino are on record predicting this is the year nobody should be stunned if a 16-seed topples a one-seed, taking three teams seems like a risky proposition.
But I'd also do it.
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James Berry's kids always have been precocious. But committing to a college football program in middle school?
Evan Berry, the 13-year-old brother of Tennessee All-American safety Eric Berry, caused an Internet stir when he told Rivals.com he was committing to play for the Vols.
In fact, Tennessee cannot offer a scholarship until a prospect's junior year of high school. So there's no offer for Evan — a rising 8th-grader at Bear Creek Middle School in Fairburn — to accept.
That didn't stop him, however. "'I'm committing' — those were his words," James Berry said Tuesday. "He loves being at Tennessee (for practices and games), but the way I look at it is he's 13 years old and he's got I don't know how many more years to decide. It's not the first time I've heard him say he's going to Tennessee."
Tennessee and other bigtime programs likely will be interested in Evan and his twin brother, Elliott. Both are talented football players and sprinters. Elliott is already 5-foot-11, 165 pounds; Evan is 5-8, 152.
"They're hard workers and they love what they're doing," James Berry said, noting Evan is probably faster than his All-American brother was at this stage. "Eric didn't run track until his sophomore year of high school, so Evan is ahead of the game. He's a natural ballhawk, loves playing defense. He's probably not the hitter Eric is, but as far as instinct and breaking to the ball, he's on cue."
Eric Berry, a rising junior, tied for the lead nationally with seven interceptions last season.
His dad, who played running back at Tennessee in the late 1970s, coaches the twins on the Fairburn Flames.
Evan plays quarterback and safety; Elliott plays running back and linebacker. Not to be shut out of the recruiting spotlight, Elliott "says he's partial to LSU," James Berry said. The twins have one more year at Bear Creek Middle School before they go to Creekside High.
June 30th, 2009
5:38 pm
Y report this?
June 30th, 2009
5:42 pm
I think this is very interesting; definitely worth reporting and likely to create controversy. Monte Kiffin's 69 years old, though, so I'm not sure I would expect him to still be around.
June 30th, 2009
5:45 pm
Are you kidding me? This has got to be a joke- only an idiot would sign a 13 year old. Unless he's Clark Kent, I guess.
June 30th, 2009
5:53 pm
no need to be concerned…..The kid might be flunked out of highschool and in jail by then….and the Democrats and Our Lord and Savior Obama will have outlawed football because it is not tolerant of homosexuals….simple as that.
June 30th, 2009
5:56 pm
I honestly want to hear Kiffins remarks about this.. They will be priceless I promise you that.
June 30th, 2009
5:58 pm
Lame Kitten himself will not be around; much less Daddy.
June 30th, 2009
6:01 pm
Crazy….just crazy…
June 30th, 2009
6:15 pm
Doesn't Eric have two younger brothers? I thought they were twins. Where is the other brother? I heard both of them were awesome youth football players.
June 30th, 2009
6:27 pm
Billy D. Ski, take the time to read the entire article.
June 30th, 2009
6:27 pm
Lane Kiffin is a sick man, I mean boy!!
June 30th, 2009
6:29 pm
sorry mike they updated article.
June 30th, 2009
6:34 pm
Tennesee is more pathetic than Tech-all of Tennesee coaching staff will be fired and banished to probation before this kid is a senior.
June 30th, 2009
6:44 pm
June 30th, 2009
7:36 pm
Now my 11 yr. old told me today he was going to play for the Gators. Can our family get some ink?
June 30th, 2009
8:06 pm
My unborn just kicked my wife nad said he commited to UGA in 2027 ! So much for bargaining to get a Escalade out of the deal.
June 30th, 2009
8:20 pm
misterwax this is a sports blog, so take your "sore loser buttocks" over to Wooten's or Bookman's blog. However; since you're here, how
bout them Dems?
June 30th, 2009
8:27 pm
If UT is dumb enough to think this thug will play for them they are a moron. Do they not know that he will most likely end up in jail at some point in high school for murder, selling drugs, or robbery? We all know what great PEOPLE black athletes are.
June 30th, 2009
8:35 pm
Pretty Sweet IMO
2 more EB's going to UT
June 30th, 2009
8:38 pm
Smyrna Man likes men
June 30th, 2009
8:49 pm
Hey he probably has a higher gpa than the rest of the vols and his police record isn't as long. Ye ha rocky flop.
June 30th, 2009
10:56 pm
Alan @ 8:27, let's see how many games the Vols win with 95 bottom heavy meth users on the squad.
June 30th, 2009
11:51 pm
If im reading this correctly. it says "i'm committing" not i'm commited to Tennessee.. committing(a few years down the road) obviously.. and Tennessee has had 0 arrests this year. how many has uga or uf had?
July 1st, 2009
12:16 am
misterwax or aln, either one of u crackers can meet me in college park anytime. I'll hang u and your mother. fucin paleface saltine.
July 1st, 2009
1:09 am
this is one of those dumb yet have to read headlines for me as a football fan. vols' fans… dont get your hopes up with this. thwg
July 1st, 2009
1:15 am
this blog is one of the reasons why the ajc should make it sooo much easier to report these racists thats giving atlanta a bad name… nevertheless- country music rules!
July 1st, 2009
7:10 am
Hilarious…I give a crap. Alan and braveshater, you two are an rascist idiots…real constructive and real manly too considering your both faceless and anonymous. Who at the AJC deemed this newsworthy??? Heck, Kiffin won't even be there by the time this kid goes to college so who's he committing to? COMPLETELY UN-NEWSWORTHY!!!
July 1st, 2009
7:22 am
The Berry Twins are special football players much like there older brother Eric was at there age. They play football in the Metro Atlanta Youth Football League (MAYFL), that has produce several Super Southern 100 prospects. It's reason why they draw so much attention on the football field and on the track, they are good. They have set state and national record for there age group in track.
Give them 5 years and they will both be Parade All-Americans. Just like older brother Eric.
July 1st, 2009
7:23 am
In reading this it seems there is a rule by the NCAA to keep schools from offering young kids offers. Kiffin like always seems to just ignore a lot of rules. I guess if this is a rule violation my question is why doesn't the NCAA enforce this rule? I guess if I was the NCAA I might say to the school you have committed a violation with this player so besides it being a secondary or in my view a primary violation your penalty is you are not allowed to recruit him when he comes of age in his junior year.
July 1st, 2009
7:47 am
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July 1st, 2009
7:49 am
good grief…. I have NO idea why I read such dribble!
July 1st, 2009
8:12 am
Just more proof,Kiffin will do anything to get his name in the press.
July 1st, 2009
8:20 am
Here's another recruit for tennessee. lol
July 1st, 2009
8:26 am
That program is a tire fire? They have an immature kid as a coach who has accomplished nothing, at least 3 notorious bagmen as assistants and a talent level that is mid conference level at best. This is going to be fun to sit back and watch.
July 1st, 2009
9:04 am
Seriously? You people are making statements about a 13 year old kid being a thug? That is a little over the top. The "Blog" and the ability for any clown to post a comment on any story is absurd. Hide behind your PC and make slanderous remarks. Feel like a man.
July 1st, 2009
9:10 am
You know, AJC, this is just another one of the reasons you're going belly up. I know this is a slow news time before football starts but surely you can find a more worthy sports story to report. Now I suppose you're gonna do a weekly/monthly update on his progress up until his senior year if, in fact, this paper is still around then.
July 1st, 2009
9:17 am
It's amazing to see the stupid comments from dogbutt sniffers but on the otherhand its not! Perhaps if they had a high school education they would be more openminded to a 13 year old.
July 1st, 2009
9:25 am
My 2d grade grandson just committed to Yale. We're all glad that decision's out of the way.
July 1st, 2009
9:48 am
I realize that reading comprehension isn't at the top of the list of you UGA fans, but it seems that the third paragraph of the story just sailed right over your heads. Try reading it again, and read it very slowly so you can understand it.
You guys are a hoot.
July 1st, 2009
9:55 am
I understand that he already is academically eligible for UT.
July 1st, 2009
10:17 am
why does this family live in Georgia. they should live in Tennessee.
July 1st, 2009
10:24 am
I cannot believe some of these comments made here, this is fine kid from a fine family who lives in a fine area, like me,(atlanta) who has watched his brother develop into an All American. He becomes infatuated with the school his brother plays at and says I am committing to UT. No where does it say anything about Kiffin offering, or any other statement like that. Yet we read racial statements on here, people who call other CHILDERN thugs, people who support other teams calling young men druggies, thugs etc. and yet their own house is not in shape with arrests, drugs etc. Then the posters make statements about a coach that is so far from the truth that anyone who happens to know southern football realizes just what fine examples of fans support such other teams. And since most of the slander tossing fans have 'dawg' tied to their name, I guess we all see just what fine examples of support this university has….you guys need to stay strictly to RAW and other forms of wrestling for entertainment. You sure are making your favorite School look like an arm pit
July 1st, 2009
11:26 am
For the racial idiots, do you realize that Eric Berry is an honor student at Tennessee who will be a top 5 pick in next years NFL draft. The kid has aspirations to become a dentist after footabll. The family is well-grounded. Ignorance is bliss to people that really don't have anything to do with their lives besides hate others because of their race. People that focus on spewing negativity must live very miserable lives.
July 1st, 2009
12:10 pm
Wow….. FAMU0172, this is not a racial issue. That is a stupid claim. Eric Berry is a great football player. No one is questioning that. This is an article for the future and not now. Many kids aspire to do many things but things change in time. I would encourage everyone to remember that we are talking about young children. Let them be children and worry about major decisions in the future.
July 1st, 2009
1:57 pm
Simple Man-I assume you are a Tech grad because you have more than a "simple" mind vs. the clueless, knuckle dragging, average bulldog buttsniffing fan!!
July 1st, 2009
4:50 pm
I spoke with five 13 year old kids. Two informed me that they will be NBA stars. One informed me that he is going to play in the NFL. One told me that he is going to be a rock star. The last one stated that he like to be a rapper. So, the AJC should run an article about this group of kids that is a group of prodigies. NOT. As children, we all had dreams and goals but they are often not based on reality. That is just how irrelevant and silly this article is. It has nothing to do with this family rather a poor selection for an article.
July 1st, 2009
4:55 pm
I must say that it is very ironic that a fan named "Buttsniffing Dog" is making a feeble attempt to criticize UGA fans. This is obviously a delusional GT fan that has a case of keyboard courage.
July 1st, 2009
5:13 pm
A 13 year old committing is an absolute joke. I don't care if he was the coaches son.
July 2nd, 2009
1:58 am
July 2nd, 2009
2:31 am
This isn't even a story…is AJC pursuing through Facebook blogs now for trash to report?
July 2nd, 2009
8:58 am
what a douche


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Recipe: Vegan Chocolate Ginger Orange Cupcakes
There's a secret we've been fostering for quite some time now. We love vegan cupcakes. More than "regular" cupcakes. Their flavor is intense, pure and did we mention there's none of that creaming and beating nonsense? They're literally as easy as 1, 2, 3! You're sure to be a hit at your next party if you come toting these!
These cupcakes get a little lift from the reaction between baking soda and vinegar and although it might seem a bit strange, it's one of the coolest things to see your batter lift in the bowl when you add the vinegar. This is a recipe that takes mere minutes to make and once you make it we're willing to bet that 8/10 of you don't go back to your standard chocolate cupcake ever again! Here's what you'll need:
3 cups all purpose flour (organic unbleached if you have it)
2/3 cup unsweetened cocoa powder
2 teaspoons baking soda
1 teaspoon salt
2 cups natural cane sugar
1 2/3 cups water (or cold freshly brewed coffee)
1 cup canola oil
2 teaspoons vanilla extract
2 tablespoons freshly grated ginger
4 tablespoons zested orange peel
1 tablespoon orange juice
4 tablespoons cider vinegar
Preheat oven to 375 degrees Fahrenheit. Mix all dry ingredients and whisk to combine. Add water, oil, vanilla, orange juice, ginger and orange peel. Stir to combine. Add vinegar and stir quickly to combine. Things will be slightly foamy and lighter in color. Once the mix turns slightly darker again you know you've incorporated all the vinegar and you're set to pour it into muffin tins) or even two cake pans.Bake for 15 minutes for a medium sized cupcake. Allow to sit in pan for 5 minutes, remove and place on wire rack until completely cool.
1 cup vegan margarine
4 cups powdered sugar
1 tablespoon vanilla
1 tablespoon orange juice
4 tablespoon soy milk
1/2 cup cocoa powder + 2 tablespoons
1/8 teaspoon salt
Blend margarine in a mixer until creamy, add in powdered sugar and mix to combine. Add remaining ingredients and mix until creamy consistency. You're ready to eat! Refrigerate any unused frosting for up to a week.
• Related: How To Stock a Vegetarian (or Vegan) Pantry
(Recipe originally published March 10, 2010)
(Images: Sarah Rae Trover)
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39 Comments
Vegan cupcakes have been my favorite for so long. They really can't be beat!
i love vegan cupcakes. i eat eggs and dairy, but usually bake vegan. so easy.
I am a total omnivore, but I, too, love me some vegan cupcakes. My favorite are these rosewater and pistachio cupcakes from Vegan Cupcakes Take Over the World by Isa Chandra Moskowitz. SUPER delicious.
I heart heart heart vegan cupcakes! And I'm an omnivore too. They're SO much better. My copy of Vegan Cupcakes Take Over the World is super stained and falling apart!
Something to note: Not all margarine is vegan. I didn't realize this for a while.. I felt REALLY stupid when I re-read the ingredients and saw "whey" in there. I swear I'd read them like 8 times to make sure. Anyway, Earth Balance is the brand I know for making vegan margarine. Thankfully most people that eat my cupcakes aren't vegan anyway!
I adore vegan everything, including cupcakes, but these look especially amazing.
Also, I love the parchment liners :)
Maybe I haven't eaten good vegan cupcakes, but I think that they taste artificial. I think it's the frosting that turns me off.
Maybe I should try these with non-vegan frosting.
lilies - That's an excellent compromise and with the recipe above, subbing in a few sticks of regular butter works out great!
lilies, i agree. i also despise the taste of margarine-based icing and i think subbing in butter will make it spectacular!
Can I use applesauce instead of the oil? It often works in dairy desserts but I'm afraid it might be required here because of the lack of fat on the ingredient list.
This is a good recipe if you use butter instead of oil. Healthier, too.
nathalie - You might be able to go half and half with it, but I think you're right, doing a full substitution would result in less than stellar results due to the lack of fat.
Palmetto - You can use butter with ok results (although it should be melted first), but will make your parchment paper or liners oily.
Margarine sketches me out--what can I use instead of it for the frosting? Whipping cream? The thought of making an icing with a cup of butter makes me cringe.
I totally know the basic cake recipe used here as "crazy cake" or "wacky cake".
I have a friend who calls these "1-2-3 cake" (because you're supposed to make 3 holes in the dry ingredients and pour vanilla in one hole, vinegar in the second hole, oil in the third and then water all over the top).
I loved making these when I was a kid and supposedly they were very popular in the 40s when they rationed things like milk, butter, and eggs.
There was a great article in the LA Time about crazy cakes recently:
chow.baby - You can just make a simple glaze to coat the top, just (soy) milk and powdered sugar along with a a little vanilla will do the trick.
AND you can lick the bowl without worry of food poinsoning from nasty raw eggs.
cholestrol free, too!
If you're looking for the best vegan frosting & cupcake recipes check out "vegan cupcakes take over the world".
Can I substitute natural cane sugar and cider vinegar somehow? I can't find those ingredients in where I live.
Can I make this as one large cake with the same recipe?
I'm with Mona. I'd rather not run out and get cane sugar. Can I use regular sugar?
Mona D & BetsyGinDC - You can sub in standard granulated white sugar without any problems and you should be able to find the cider vinegar (usually labeled apple cider vinegar). It's a staple in almost every corner of the world. If worst comes to worst you can sub in a white vinegar, but the taste might leave a little tang, you might amp up your orange peel to cover.
engill - It works in two standard 8 or 9 inch pans, I would assume you could bake it in a rectangular bakeware without any issues. The middle is the last thing to come together on it, so make sure that the middle doesn't leave a dent when touched as your judge for time left in the oven.
Excellent! I may make these cupcakes tonight. Thanks Sarah! (I already have all the ingredients including cider vinegar on hand.)
For all y'all who are not cool with margarine - Earth Balance Vegan "margarine" is non-hydrogenated and tastes deliiiiicious and works great in baking.
Believe it or not, in here we don't have apple cider vinegar or white vinegar. :) Our cuisine normally doesn't include vinegar and salads only require regular apple vinegar.
Mona D - It should be available somewhere, it looks to be a main ingredient in Tursu (depending on if you use lemon juice or vinegar) so it should be in existence, but I'm not sure where to look for it, my Turkish isn't up to par these days!
Mona- I would guess that your 'regular apple vinegar' is the apple cider vinegar that the recipe is calling for.
I would try it with any fruitbased natural vinegar, with out hesitation.
Let us know how it works out for you!
I used butter in the frosting and it worked out fine. Gawsh the frosting was to die for! We thought the cupcakes were a bit too gingery and not chocolatey enough, but seriously, we could eat this frosting straight, light fluffy, incredible!
I want these right now!
Made these last weekend for my best friend's birthday. I didn't tell anyone they were vegan until after they had eaten and everyone loved them!
These look delicious! I have a delicious sweet balsamic vinegar. Do you think that would work as a substitute for the apple cider vinegar?
iamlilysmom - My first reaction is no, but there's no reason not to give it a try. I might suggest using the darkest cocoa powder you can find however to help balance it out!
I make a similar cake sometimes when I am in a rush as you can mix all the ingredients in the cake tin and virtually always have the ingredients in the cupboard
I "eat in both worlds" but I am a wee bit lactose intolerant so I try to cut back on dairy wherever I can.
The key to really fluffy, not weird tasting vegan frosting is to use half earth balance vegan butter (the sticks, the formula is a little different from the tub and holds its shape better) and half earth balance shortening.
I make this type of cake all the time, but will try it with ginger and orange! Rad.
I made these a couple of weeks ago. The cake part was quite nice, though I did add chocolate chips. I un-veganized the frosting with cow butter and milk, and it is now one of my favorite frostings ever.
Just made these with Splenda (have a diabetic in the house)...oh man were they tasty, you wouldn't even know that they were sugar free!!
Just traded out the margarine and soymilk for actual butter and milk in the frosting. Also halved the amount of sugar in the frosting and substituted with finely ground Splenda (all Splenda doesn't work for icing)... we still have to limit the amount that goes on for our diabetic, but she can manage a little bit of sugar in her diet.
You really never would have guessed that there was so little sugar in it.
**also, no cider vinegar to be had in the house, used regular white, instead to great results.
What kind of lovely wrappers are those hugging your cupcakes??
iamlilysmom - I was thinking that, too. I always have a bottle of balsamic vinegar on hand. Though I know I could get cider vinegar here, I still wouldn't want to spend the money on that only for one recipe, as I don't think I'd use it otherwise. But the suggestion to use really dark cocoa w/ the balsamic, now that makes sense! :) Can't wait to try it out.
One question: doesn't the acid in the orange juice curdle the milk in the frosting? I don't really like soy milk and don't cook with it, so I have no idea if it curdles the way regular cow or other dairy milk does. Also, though I'm not vegan I'd like to try the frosting with almond milk instead. Any suggestions? Thanks!
@heatherskye; parchement paper cut into squares.
just made these following the recipe exactly and everything turned out great!! so delicious and i would definitely make them again!


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[Original Story] Like the "Running Man" was popular in the late 80s, video game beta tests are all the rage in today's modern society. Most recently from Sony's camp were beta tests for high profile titles such as Killzone 3 and SOCOM 4, with a (previously announced) beta for Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception coming later this summer.
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Tyrell WHL Player of the WeekSubmitted by chad on November 6, 2007 - 22:26
(WHL.ca) The BOSTON PIZZA WHL Player of the Week is forward Dana Tyrell of the Prince George Cougars.
Tyrell picked up seven points in three games during the week of October 29th through to November 4th. He scored six goals, one assist and was plus one, helping the Cougars to a 3-0 record in that span.
On Monday, October 29th, the WHL Western Conference leading Vancouver Giants rolled into the CN Centre to face the Cougars. Tyrell picked up 2 power play goals to secure the Cougars 3-0 victory over the Giants. He also was named the games 2nd Star.
Fadden/Tyrell to Play for WHL in Canada/Russia ChallengeSubmitted by pete on October 25, 2007 - 22:46
The WHL has announced the WHL All-Stars roster that will participate in their two games in the Canada/Russia Challenge. Lightning prospect Mitch Fadden will participate in both games for the WHL while Dana Tyrell will participate in one game for the team. According to the press release, "Team WHL was selected by a special committee of WHL General Managers along with Al Murray, Hockey Canada's Head Scout for the Canadian National Junior Team, as part of the selection process for the 2008 World Junior Hockey Championships." The Canada/Russia Challenge is an annual tour through the three Canadian junior leagues by a team of "select" Russian under-20 players. Because Russian Superleague clubs rarely release their best young players to play in the tournament, the Canadians have enjoyed an overwhelming advantage at this event. Last year the Canadian junior leagues went 6-0 in the Challenge.
Fadden Named WHL Player of the WeekSubmitted by chad on October 1, 2007 - 11:37
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The BOSTON PIZZA WHL Player of the Week is forward Mitch Fadden of the Lethbridge Hurricanes. Fadden recording four goals, three assists and was plus five, in three games during the week of September 24th to September 30th, helping the Hurricanes to a 2-1 record in that span.
On Friday, September 28th, Fadden recorded two goals and an assist as his Hurricanes fell subject to the Kootenay Ice's come from behind victory 5-4. He was also named the game's 1st Star. The following night, Saturday, September 30th, Fadden picked up a goal and an assist as the Hurricanes downed the Saskatoon Blades 3-1. On Sunday, September 30th, the Hurricanes traveled to Edmonton to take on the Oil Kings, Fadden scored one goal and an assist as Lethbridge went on to shutout the Oil Kings 3-0.
Fadden, a 19-year-old product from Salmon Arm, BC is in his fourth season in the WHL, and was recently drafted at the 2007 NHL Entry Draft, in the 4th round, by the Tampa Bay Lightning.
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The Lightning All-Time All-Dog TeamSubmitted by pete on July 26, 2007 - 19:02
The nominations are in and the list has been carefully whittled down to 21: The Bolt Prospects Lightning All-Time All-Dog team, a celebration of the very worst of the Lightning's first 14 years in the league. The rules were simple: no player whose rights are currently held by the Lightning could make the list (no need to poison present day morale) and only players with 10 or more games in a Lightning jersey could carry home the coveted silver dog dish. The competition was fierce, but in the end, the liquidy nasty stuff sank to the bottom.
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So without further adieu, the Bolt Prospects Lightning All-Time All-Dog Team, sponsored by former Chicago Blackhawks coach Alpo Suhonen and, of course, Michael Vick.
Now Taking Nominations: You Let the Dogs OutSubmitted by pete on July 17, 2007 - 22:37
We're going to switch gear and do something a little fun over the next week or two. One of the next features we're going to have on the site, now that we've released our 15th season All-Time Lightning Team is to create the All-Time Lightning All-Dog Team. We're going to go back through 14 seasons of Lightning hockey to reminisce on some of the worst players ever to wear the bolt and we need your help in crafting the list.
Here's the rules:
1.) You can't nominate any player whose rights are currently held by the Lightning. We're not looking to poison morale in the present, just to look back fondly on some of the bad old days. Sorry Tim Taylor haters, take it down the road.
2.) Whoever you nominate has to have played at least 10 games in a Lightning jersey. You lucked out Mario Larocque.
In the end we hope to have 12 awful forwards, 1 punchless enforcer, 6 defenseless defensemen and 2 sieve-like goaltenders. Nominees will be graded by the Bolt Prospects staff based on only the most unscientific of criteria, the foremost of which will be the shear stench they emitted while on the rink.
Don't feel like you have to give us all 22 players. Individual nominations are actually preferred. Use this blog thread to nominate who you think was the biggest mutt in Lightning history and give us a paragraph on why you think that player should be thrown in the pound. Then, keep checking Bolt Prospects over the next couple of weeks to see if we put your pooch on the list.
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Tuesday, 24th July, 2012, 05:53 PM #1
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Day-Based & Encounter-Based: It's Not Balance, It's Playstyle
(tl;dr version: Encounter-based play is something that 5e can't really reject, since it's a personal preference, and that might mean some compromise from folks who prefer a longer term...some compromise I'm kind of cool with)
So 5e's core is being developed with the idea of a system that revolves around the "adventuring day." That means that every time your party rests for the night, they recover all of their resources, and that their resources are meant to and are designed to be spent between the time they wake up and the time they take their next long nap.
There's a lot of really good legacy and gameplay reasons to use the adventuring day as the basis for the game. Arguably, the changes that 3e and 4e made to make the encounter more the basis for the game were the cause of a lot of those systems' problems with both balance and "feel."
But the Encounter-based design has been around for long enough, and is embraced by enough people, that I don't think it can viably be left on the roadside. It creates a playstyle that a chunk of people really love. It's not a "traditional D&D" style, but a lot of people have never really liked traditional resource-management-style D&D and have used D&D to tell their more cinematic narrative tales even since day 1.
I think it's important to note that it's not really a balance issue (it ain't about the math, 'cuz that can work fine), but it is a playstyle issue (it is about how people envision their games and scenes, and how they run their tables). This is, I think why some of the disagreements have a tendency to turn acerbic: people are assuming they're talking about things that can be correct or incorrect, but they are actually talking about matters of personal taste, which are often arbitrary and anyway are closely held.
So. I think any 5e that hopes to unify the game must include within it a way to turn D&D into an encounter-based game. Not because this is "good design" or leads to "better balance," but because some people really personally prefer thinking of their game as a series of scenes rather than as a longer unit. It makes more sense to them, it puts the emphasis where they want it, and it feels more natural to them.
Fortunately, this isn't particularly hard. If you have a 5e that is designed for daily considerations, there's really two major steps you need to take, and two brief corollaries.
STEP 1: Time Shift Your Rests
A while ago, I posted an easy fix on how people who thought "healing all HP with a single night's sleep" was too fast. The trick to this is that it also works in reverse. Rather than an extended rest being at the end of every night, you have an extended rest at the end of every encounter.
This effectively means your "vancian" spells are all encounter powers, and your HP are all encounter-based, and no effects really transcend a single encounter. You can always make exceptions for things you want to bother to track, introducing a longer Daily rest, but, by default, you don't have to track anything.
Where did your short rests, go, then?
Well, in 5e as it currently stands, they can be applied with an action in combat, easily, since all they do is possibly let you spend charges from your healer's kit. You could also herald the return of a Second Wind action that gives you a short rest, to more evenly distribute that.
Now, you might be afraid that this "encourages novas," that a character that can unload everything in one encounter would be SUPER-POWERFUL. But that's not necessarily true:
STEP 2: Your Daily XP Budget = Your Encounter XP Budget
Daily spells are designed to be used over several encounters. If you want to base your game on encounters, you just put all the day's activities into each encounter. The existence of Solos and Elites makes this especially easy to do without necessarily upping the grind too much. That said, you are going to spend more rounds in each encounter in an encounter-based system. This is working as intended: each encounter is a threat, each encounter wants you to use all of your resources, each encounter goes a little slower and a little more detailed than a day-based system would assume.
The Corollaries
If you're the 5e designers, and you're making a daily-based game, you need to make it in such a way that it does not rule out an encounter-based game, either. This means that you need to keep the following in mind as you design:
- You need to make encounter-neutralizing effects easily optional. In a game based on an interval longer than an encounter, you can have encounters that are imbalanced, but that still have an effect on the overall day. If you teleport away from an encounter, or you fly past one, or you disintegrate the goblin king or charm the necromancer or use stealth to sneak past the tomb guardian, these can be problems in an encounter-based game in a way they're not in a game based on broader terms. So you need to make these effects either not encounter-neutralizing (like the current spells in the playtest), or clearly optional somehow.
- You need every character to at least opt into being able contribute to every encounter. In a game based on an interval longer than an encounter, you can have a character that sits out an encounter, but that still contributes to the overall day. If your thief hides during the combat, or your bard can't fight worth a dang, these can be problems in an encounter-based game ina way they're not in a game based on broader terms. So you need to make characters who can all contribute to every encounter (like the current playtest characters), or at least enable that as a possibility.
The Results
- The game assumes no daily resources. You can add them back in, if you'd like. In particular, it'd be easy to add in effects resembling healing surges and milestones. Adding in powerful "daily effects" might take a bit more work for an individual DM, but are entirely possible (and would make an excellent module). HP in this model is always almost entirely fate.
- Each encounter takes up more time. This is generally a desirable result for an encounter-based game(even a "longer" 5e encounter is going to be lickety-split by 4e standards!), but if the encounter takes up TOO MUCH time (leading to grind), it makes things like encounter diversity and HP adjustments more important. Various anti-grind strategies that people have developed in 4e may become useful. The existence of elites and solos can go a long way to helping this.
After seeing this as a playstyle thing we must accept as an inclusive game rather than a mechanical balance thing that can be mechanically solved for everyone by the mechanics, it becomes more apparent to me that encounter-based gaming is something that needs to be enabled. Not for balance reasons, but for personal preference reasons: some folks want to play that way because it fits their style better.
I don't think it needs to be the default. I think the "core D&D experience" is very much a longer term kind of thing. Daily magic recharging and counting encumbrance and returning to town to rest are very in-genre. But since not everyone plays this game the same way (and some people have probably NEVER played that sort of D&D), it can't ignore the other ways. It must be at least an easy add on. And that may mean that encounter-neutralizing abilities by default aren't quite so powerful, and that classes can't so much be binary contributors.
And y'know what? I'm fine with that. I'm a big advocate for a longer term D&D core experience, but this is a big tent, and there's no reason the folks who dig the encounter-based play should have to give that up (though I think there might be less confusion if everyone dropped the "UNBALANCED!!!!!" canard ). They need to be supported, too. Even if that means an old-school "thief that sucks at combat" is an option I need to opt into, rather than part of what the game presumes. It's a price I'm willing to pay if that keeps a chunk of the 4e diehards on board, even if I don't ever really D&D play in that style.
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Tuesday, 24th July, 2012, 07:10 PM #2
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I can't easily disagree.
I think it would be very tricky to do a game that did both. But it's not impossible to have a module that enables something close to balanced encounter-based play. It would be a very complex set of optional rules, likely not for the faint of heart. As it changes so many options it would require a lot of fine tuning and exclusion of some abilities.
The payoff for the time invested might make it impractical.
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Tuesday, 24th July, 2012, 07:30 PM #3
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It is also a balance issue, no matter how you space the rest phases, if only one part of the party has significant expendable resources. If Wizard spells are only as strong as Fighter attacks, then it's not a problem. but they have never been that. A Fireball deals 5d6 in a 20 ft radius is better than a Fighter dealing 1d8+10 to a single enemy.
That's why I say that we don't need to worry about having a 15 minute adventuring day - we need to worry about asymmetric class resources that make resting more beneficial for one class then another.
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Tuesday, 24th July, 2012, 08:05 PM #4
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I think you can do it with a time-shift, and some attention to ensuring it's not easy to bork an encounter.Originally Posted by Jester Canuck
Mathematically, by the numbers, that's not really true. That wizard puts out ~18 points of damage, spread around maybe an average of 3 monsters, for a total of 54 points of damage once per day, and if that fighter that deals ~15 points of damage hits 3 or 4 times before the day ends, they've put out very nearly the same amount of damage.Originally Posted by Mustrum_Ridcully
But that's kind of irrelevant. Some folks dig encounter-based design as a matter of personal preference, regardless of the logic behind it. Putting a whole day's XP into each encounter and keeping the rest after each encounter helps fix that, since it makes the party chew through everything all at once, without even an illusory option for stopping halfway through.
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Tuesday, 24th July, 2012, 08:58 PM #5
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If your going to time shift to an encounter-based system, I could see high level play being troublesome for the sheer number of abilities that would be expected to be spent in a single encounter. To that, there may be consideration to cutting down the number of abilities in this sort of playstyle to thwart overly long encounters. Perhaps a "pick X of your Y abilities for this encounter" or, when you hit X uses of "daily" abilities, your out for the encounter (same idea, one requires forethought, the other is "on the fly").
Other than that, seems like a nifty idea.
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Tuesday, 24th July, 2012, 10:23 PM #6
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Tuesday, 24th July, 2012, 11:15 PM #7
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If the fighter deals his damage 3 times more each encounter (day is irrelevant with your proposed spell recovery), the wizards has to have less than 3 spells. And this doesn't include the wizard's spells ability to hit multiple enemies at a time.
Saying that encounter recovery doesn't result in balance issues under D&D basic till 3.5 shows a lack of understanding.
Reducing the amount of spells for each encounter could work.
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Wednesday, 25th July, 2012, 12:01 AM #8
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I think it's important to address encounter-based design and I think this is a good start. There are some potential difficulties i could for see (like so much in D&D I'm nervous it will break down at high levels), but overall I approve.
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Wednesday, 25th July, 2012, 12:19 AM #9
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Furthermore, with that much packed into each encounter, there should be plenty for each character to do without feeling overshadowed by any other player.
My main concern with this style of play would be the same as I had with 4e: there really ought to be some morale rules to use when the tide of battle has irrevocably turned in the PCs' favor, without expecting the players to go through the grind of finishing their foes off (of course, if all resources are replenished after the encounter, this can be pretty easily hand-waved).
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Wednesday, 25th July, 2012, 03:02 AM #10
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It scales. If the wizard can do it three or four times per day, the fighter might need another six or twelve hits to "catch up," but you can peg it at whatever you need with the knowledge that each additional spell/day means an extra few rounds of fighter output. An average 4e adventuring day of 3 encounters is about 18 hits, so using that as a metric, our 1d8+10 fighter deals 270 damage, and our 5d6 wizard needs about 5 fireballs (or fireball-equivalents made of lower-level spells) per day to keep pace.Originally Posted by Walking Dad
Personally, I'd even encourage fighters to have a slight edge on raw damage output to encourage wizards to use their spells very tactically. Rather than 1d8+10 (pfft. That's peasant damage), I'd like to see 5th level fighters with, I dunno, 5d8+5. Extra actions, extra attacks, and extra damage can all blow that up even further: Fighters are SUPPOSED to be the reliable class! Meanwhile, if that wizard blows that fireball on a lone kobold, they may fry it, but then their total damage for the day is going to be lower than a fighter's. Meanwhile, if they manage to bunch all the kobolds together in a ten-by-ten room, maybe the wizard has earned his slight damage spike over the fighter by being super effective. And I'd also encourage spells per day to be low, so to encourage that "running out of resources" vibe, and just to make things cleaner overall.
Now, 1d8+10 damage doesn't compare to, say, Fly, but that's a bit of a problem with pillars (combat vs. exploration) and not a problem with the maths. And I could live with a nerfed fly (say, something that requires an action to keep active) as a default, if it means a more inclusive game!
Originally Posted by StormonuThis mostly depends on how unweildy high level magic gets. Like in any edition of D&D, it might turn into the Options Hydra that paralyzes everyone. And those who aren't paralyzed might leverage obscure low-level spells to twink the game. But balancing lower-level spells with high-level use in mind is part of what I think is the designers' job, and I think 5e's "flat curve" can help ameliorate this: we don't need to see high level casters with 50 spells per day. I'd be content if a high level wizard could cast 10. There might be a more choice middle ground. Maybe 28, if the wizard tops out at 4/day of each spell level and there's 7 basic spell levels? As long as you keep them roughly equal in output to a fighter over the course of a day, making every encounter a day's worth of XP works clean and nice.Originally Posted by MatthewJHanson
Sure, that works!Originally Posted by Rune
Also, if you're finding combat too long, you might space out the recovery a bit more. Maybe every milestone (so each encounter is half a day!) or every 3 encounters (so you can get the three-act structure!) or whatever you feel comfortable with. Since it's mostly about playstyle, you can set it at whatever point you need (whatever "makes sense to you" or gets the players to act as you desire) without worrying too much about the numbers involved in output. Time shifting your rests is CRAZY flexible like that.
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Dapple, the knitted dress, is done!
So my Dapple is finished. Many hours and 13 balls of yarn later, and all I've got is a whopping big case of CPA, otherwise known as Completed Project Apathy.
I really cannot figure out if I like this dress or not. Even though the dress is fitted, I feel like I'm drowning in it. The baggy sleeves certainly don't help! When I first saw the photos my initial thought was "Oh my word, I'm wearing a big purple cabled sack!", so I scurried over to the mirror to double-check the sackiness, but didn't think it looked too bad. Maybe it's one of those outfits that look better in real life? And let's face it, I'm no model! Maybe if I had legs up to here, was better endowed in the bosom department and learnt how to do my hair properly I would rock it, but at the moment it's more Cable Loss than Kate Moss.
On the plus side, I love the colour, and the cables are pretty cool. But then again the neckline is way too wide for me, and the overall design silhouette makes me feel a lot wider than I actually am. Gah! Do I like the darn thing or not? I think it definitely needs a belt, to break up the upper width.
It also didn't help that the cable pattern graph in the book was wrong. But no problem - there was an errata insert that gave the correct graph symbols. Except, darn it, they were wrong too! I spent a couple of hours swatching, exclaiming at intervals "What am I doing WRONG? I know I can be a dunderhead a times, but surely I'm not that stupid!" Finally I jumped onto ravelry and discovered that the errata was also incorrect. D'oh! So if you want to make the dress, the corrections for the cable pattern can be found here. Nobly I have suffered so you don't have to. You can thank me later. Chocolates are always nice.
So that, my friends, is the tale of Dapple. Well, I guess you win some and you lose some. That's the problem with knitting - a whole lot of work can go into a project, only to find the final result is more "meh" than "look at meeeee!" At least with sewing projects you can more easily try things on as you go, and it's usually only a couple of days work down the drain if it doesn't work out, rather than weeks for knitting.
The more I look at these photos the more undecided I feel. Keep? Unravel? eBay? Can. Not. Decide. At. All. I feel I ought to like it just because there is over 1.1 kilometres of yarn in the darn thing!
Ok, over to you: thumbs up or thumbs down? Be kind - this whole Dapple drama has left my knitting ego feeling rather fragile!
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