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After Atlanta-based Cumulus Media acquired Citadel Broadcasting last month, Spiff Carner said he read news reports that Cumulus was going to cut staff. He just hoped it wouldn't involve "Randy & Spiff," his morning show team on Atlanta's Greatest Hits 106.7, which had been owned by Las Vegas-based Citadel.
But hope didn't cut it. On Oct. 3, two weeks after the merger, Carner said Cumulus Media's Atlanta market manager, Paul O'Malley, gathered him and co-host Randy Cook in his office and told them the bad news: They had lost their jobs, with two months severance. (O'Malley declined to comment.)
And typical in the radio business, they didn't get to say goodbye to the listeners.
Cook and Carner said their removal was part of an early round of budget cuts, along with six other employees that day at Atlanta's Greatest Hits, which plays mostly hits from the 1970s, and sister country station Kicks 101.5.
Cook and Carner are fixtures in Atlanta radio since 1989 at five radio stations. Their first run at what was then oldies station Fox 97 was their most successful over 14 years until that station changed format. Since then, they have been at another oldies station Cool 105.7 (2003-2005), soft rock station Lite 94.9 (2005-2006), news/talk WGST-AM (2007) and for the past two years, Atlanta's Greatest Hits.
"We're the journeymen in baseball," Cook said over lunch at Marietta's Christos Pizza, a hang-out for the pair for many years and where Fox 97 reunions have been held.
"It's the nature of the business," said Carner, wearing a cap with his signature catchphrase "Spiff Happens." "In a way, I feel worse for some of the people who were there for such a long time and lost their jobs."
Carner said when he arrived at the station a couple years ago, he kept his personal items in a single drawer. He said he told the administrative assistant at the time, "I'm going to bring in enough stuff so I can leave with one sack if they ever fire me."
"We've learned to travel light," Cook said.
The pair are up for a Georgia Radio Hall of Fame lifetime achievement award Saturday, October 15. "There are people who have been inducted who I really respect," Cook said. "It'd be a good club to be in."
"I'd like to know how valuable the medallion is so I can sell it on eBay!" Carner joked. "Gotta eat baby! I hope to get at least 30 bucks!"
Carner also wanted to make sure he didn't burn any bridges, stating emphatically: "My two weeks at Cumulus were very nice."
Former owner Citadel did do a nice thing by requiring Cumulus to void non-compete clauses in contracts of people who were to be let go. This way, Randy & Spiff can work immediately on air in Atlanta if they can find a job. Naturally, they'd like to stay in Atlanta, but right now, Cook said there are no obvious places for them to go.
"We've taken pay cuts to stay here" in metro Atlanta the past few years, Carner said. "Our first choice now is to take a little less to stay here."
For now, Cook has some part-time work lined up, and his wife has a full-time job. Carner said his house is long paid off, his kids are out of the house and he has saved carefully, aware that employment in radio is never guaranteed.
At the lunch, we also waxed nostalgic about their early days at Fox, when Randy & Spiff were one of the most popular shows in town. They recalled doing a "Meet Every Listener" campaign. Each weekday over three months, they'd be driven from one office to a restaurant to a food court, literally shaking hands, kissing babies and handing out thousands of T-shirts. They received billboards, TV ads and exposure no local radio personality gets anymore. Another year, they did a similar "Pay Every Listener" where they would pay any listener with a 37-cent check.
In the end, they handed out 9,000 checks, of which (believe it or not) 800 were cashed. Some folks who saved them, they said, more than 15 years later, still come up with their original checks and ask them to sign them.
And for nostalgia's sake, here's the photo of the AJC took in February, 2003, after the pair lost their jobs at Fox 97. In fact, this was shot at Christos Pizza as well:
Here's a classic aircheck from Randy & Spiff's early days:
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By Rodney Ho, Radio & TV Talk
October 13th, 2011
4:16 pm
I am not sure that the loss in listeners and hence future revenues will offset the costs savings at 106.7. They already suffer from a very bad location on the radio dial.
October 13th, 2011
4:24 pm
They had a good run but if you look at what's on tv now (Kardashians, the Bachelor, etc) it's a different world. The young folks think they know better and want everyone over 40 out of the way. I'll remember that when a young un is changing my diaper at the nursing home.
October 13th, 2011
5:07 pm
Loved Randy and Spiff's morning show. No reason to listen to 106.7 now….
October 13th, 2011
7:05 pm
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October 13th, 2011
7:08 pm
When106.7 fired Randy & Spiff, they also fired me as a listener. There is no reason to listen to that station anymore.
October 13th, 2011
7:35 pm
Randy and Spiff were great. Put a smile on my face everyday. Hope someone out there has the common sense to get them back on the air. Even my 17 year old listens to them volentarily. Good luck guys. Goodbye 106.7.
October 13th, 2011
7:38 pm
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October 13th, 2011
7:42 pm
Follow them from station to station. Can't wait for another station to feature Randy & Spiff show. There just no good morning show in Atlanta radio station anymore.
October 13th, 2011
7:45 pm
Last year they got rid of Fred Brooks now this, sorry 106, I guess I will be listening to my iPod from now on.
October 13th, 2011
7:47 pm
A lot of the well-known radio personalities that have station-hopped over the last few years really need to come to grips with reality. An over-the-air radio station isn't what it used to be. If you really want to attract listeners, and on a more global scale, get into podcasting. Create a YouTube channel or a social network page where fans can download or listen to audio you upload on a daily or weekly basis.
Look into satellite radio. Howard Stern did, and he's probably got more listeners now than when he was still on terrestial radio. Besides, the FCC doesn't have as tight a grip (yet) on satellite radio, hence why you will hear the real, unedited version of any rap song, or any other song. That lyric from the song "Jet Airliner" by Steve Miller? The real version mentions nothing of "kicks". There's another word there.
October 13th, 2011
7:47 pm
No reason to listen to that station anymore. Friday won't be the same without the 'Friday song'! Good luck – I'll be listening wherever you land!
October 13th, 2011
7:54 pm
Miss'em already along with Greg.. Nothing worth listening to anymore. I have dropped 106.7. So they saved $ on Monday, but the station is losing on Tuesday.
Best of luck to you – Randy and Spiff. You are the best.
October 13th, 2011
7:56 pm
Here's hoping that B98.5 fires the three losers that are employed on their morning show and hire Randy and Spiff.
October 13th, 2011
8:06 pm
I thought 106.7 blew it when they axed Scott Shannon and "The True Oldies Station." They may not have generated the greatest overall "numbers" but they definitely had a solid market segment that could be related to and sold to as such (as that's what radio is all about).
From people reacting to the change, at the time, on this blog, it appeared that a lot of folks here didn't care for Shannon's style, and were glad he was gone. Personally, I thought Shannon gave us the closest thing to an old-fashioned DJ, who was actually a fan of the music himself, and could tell you interesting things about it, treating these great old songs with the fondness and integrity they deserved, instead of as just the mash that the station played between comic bits and commericals.
And that's the same reason why I never understood all the loyalty about Randy & Spiff. Sure they've been associated with every oldies station Atlanta's had going back a long way, but did they ever seem like they actually cared about this music, or were in any way knowledgeable about it? Not in my view. To be fair, I don't know that I've actually ever heard anyone on the radio that I actually thought was "funny," but Spiff's comedic approach was the only thing that may have had some kind of association with the concept of "oldies," as I'm thinking that maybe my Grandfather may have considered his cornball approach to entertainment be humor.
This is not to say that I don't wish these guys well in their future endevours. As far as Atlanta radio traditions go, I'm all for their harmless approach versus the insipid options that we've been subjected to up and down the dial for decades in this town.
When 106.7 canceled "The True Oldies Channel" and became Atlanta's Greatest Hits, I wrote to the station manager, voicing my displeasure about it, and espousing the fact that we needed what Scott Shannon brought here. His polite response was, "We hope you'll enjoy Atlanta's Greatest Hits, and don't forget, Randy & Spiff are still here!"
October 13th, 2011
8:29 pm
It's all part of appealing to the kids willing to blow their money on all forms of clap-trap. I won't miss 106.7, but I'll miss Randy and Spiff. They are truly imaginative gentlemen. I'll content myself with fond remembrance of all the pleasure they brought while I drove all over north Georgia.
October 13th, 2011
8:38 pm
106.7 should have kept Randy and Spiff and dropped that non-stop erectile disfunction ad they run endlessly during the day. We had to stop listening in my office because the ad is so embarrassing and offensive.
October 13th, 2011
8:48 pm
In honor of Randy and Spiff, I am going to continue to listen to 106.7,
then boycott every advertiser and send them hate mail for advertising on Cumulus "Suck" Radio!
Best of luck Randy and Spiff, Rock and Roll will never die!
October 13th, 2011
9:52 pm
Took 106.7 off my radio. Randy and Spiff made me laugh. Can't wait to hear them again.
October 13th, 2011
10:13 pm
Does anyone know if they are hiring a new host?
October 13th, 2011
10:20 pm
So what happened to Fluffo and ED ???? Are they moving with RanSpi ???
October 13th, 2011
10:43 pm
And this is why Sirius XM continues to gain listeners. 60s on 6, 70s on 7, Classic Vinyl, the Bridge. These are stations you can count on. BTW I, too, thought Scott Shannon had a good program. I wish he was on Sirius XM. The local channels just have too limited of a playlist.
October 13th, 2011
11:22 pm
Never heard of em.
October 13th, 2011
11:50 pm
DON'T LISTEN TO CUMULUS MEDIA!. These blood-sucking corporations are ruining radio. They don't care what people want only what feeds the bottom line. Hopefully Cumulus will lose lots of money through this bad management. CUMULUS SUCKS!
October 14th, 2011
1:50 am
Get SiriusXM and listen to Howard Stern. You'll forget about Randy & Lame-o within minutes.
October 14th, 2011
3:17 am
It's always fun to read the blog comments such as "what they should do is…" It never really matters because everyone's opinion is different in some way. I love Randy and Spiff, and I'm sad they are gone (for now). We are running out of Oldies stations for them to show up on, unfortunately. I hope they land on another radio station soon, as I won't move over to satellite because I like how some things stay the same (as they were intended). As for those who say that 106.7 had a bad "dial position" even I don't have to spin the dial to get that far down. It's called a pre-set, which will have to change now.
October 14th, 2011
6:41 am
I really like Tripp West, so this is nothing against him. I have followed Randy and Spiff on every move and sincerely hope they will be on the Atlanta airwaves soon. 106.7 made their first HUGE mistake when they quit being true Oldies, firing Randy and Spiff is an even bigger mistake. Randy and Spiff, you are truly talented, hilarious, and genuinely good hearted guys. Your M & M Savant, By the way, Christo's is GREAT!
October 14th, 2011
8:40 am
@Da Mick : Right on the money.
October 14th, 2011
8:45 am
…really sucked as a format – the current format at 106.7 is good, and thank goodness they got rid of the Scott Shannon hack from NY – now, Randy & Spiff, they were always good no matter where they were – will miss them and hope they get somewhere soon…
By the way, "I'm Shocked" – "Ed from over here at Ed's garage, how y'all doin" passed away several years – and didn't the guy that did "Ed" also do "Fluffo" and "Mohammed from the convenience store"?
October 14th, 2011
9:08 am
Thanks for the update on my favorite morning show team Rodney. I have followed Randy and Spiff all over the radio dial since they first arrived in Atlanta. I even followed them to 94.9 (?) and its feeble attempts at music. When the Oldies became impossible to find in Atlanta, I went to satellite radio and I love it! I came back to 106.7 when they hired Randy and Spiff, but only for the morning show. Now that they have been let go, I am back to satellite full time. I will miss Randy and Spiff but not the commercials nor the questionable playlist. Please let us know if Randy and Spiff get back on the air in Atlanta. I will be waiting.
October 14th, 2011
9:27 am
Well, it's times to reprogram the radio stations again…Randy & Spiff – please give us a fix by putting stuff on YouTube to get us by. Friday isn't as special anymore without the Friday song. I'll be listening for your return…don't make me wait too long.
October 14th, 2011
9:45 am
YOU ARE RIGHT!! No reason to listen anymore. I've been a fan of Randy and Spiff for years and have loyally followed them from one station to another. The middle of the roaders age are tired of not being taken seriously. We have buying power!!
We love you Randy and Spiff.
October 14th, 2011
9:53 am
Where will I get my crappy top 10 lists now?
Good riddance, R&S were about as unfunny as the craptastic Jim Bob & Billy and Rick & Bubba shows they tried so hard to rip off.
October 14th, 2011
10:48 am
I am a big fan of Randy and Spiff, and I miss waking up and not hearing them. Like today it would be get your crack off the rack. THese guys are the BEST DJ's on radio and will be missed by so many of us. I wish the both of them the best of luck and HOPEFULLY another station will be wise enough to welcome them to their station. 106.7 I think you have made a huge error in letting these guys go, SHAME ON YOU!! ………………….Love you Randy and Spiff.
October 14th, 2011
11:00 am
I grew up listening to FOX97, but even I think it's time for Randy & Spiff to move on. I would love to hear them on Sirius XM doing an oldies show though….despite their lack of knowledge about the music they are playing.
October 14th, 2011
12:04 pm
Yes the guy who did those Ed at Ed's garage, fluffo, Mohammed, and I also miss gramps, sydell funeral home has passed and I also like Ednac. Fortunately I have those on CD. Cumulus sucks. They nail the coffin to too many radio personalities. It seem a smaller market would welcome Randy and Spiff. I fell in love with them in 1989. Smaller markets are much, Much, MUCH better radio market. Oh well, here comes my iPod!
October 14th, 2011
12:22 pm
Are their ever any ethical considerations in the way that media operates? You guys blast the heck out of everyone else, but you never criticize yourselves.
October 14th, 2011
1:28 pm
Tripp is fine, but he's not very good in the mornings. Plus, it's difficult to come in as one man to replace a two-man show. The interactions just aren't there. I think the station will continue to take a hit in listener losses. I understand the cost savings part, but maybe they just needed to automate or voice track middays and nights, and leave the drive-time slots as-is. I don't have a reason to listen to 106.7 anymore.
Now if we can only get Tripp to accurately pronounce the word Atlanta…
October 14th, 2011
2:28 pm
Mornings just aren't the same without the Randy & Spiff banter. I agree with a lot of you- not much reason to listen now. First, Scott Shannon, now our dear morning buddies! Cumulus – you must have clouds for brains!
October 14th, 2011
3:07 pm
Bottom line. Those two had to go to pay Dickey(s) and Pinch's bonus. You know how important their bonus is…..
October 14th, 2011
3:34 pm
I knew they were not just on vacation this week. I was out of town, came back and noticed Tripp was not saying he was "covering" for the guys in the mornings. I was hoping for a different outcome and I really am very surprised they have been let go. They surely made me laugh in the mornings. I mourned losing them on Fox 97 and now this. Too much. I drive from Marietta to the airport every morning and radio will not be the same for me. Might as well listen to NPR…NOT! CD's for me until they return to radio.
October 14th, 2011
3:53 pm
Took me awhile but finally see from GOOGLE that they were cut and nothing was said about it on 106.7, listen too them every chance I had!!! Now I have changed to Talk radio most of the time while I am on the road in the AM. 106.7 you really screwed up!! Will change my radio preset station and 106.7 will not be one of them!
October 14th, 2011
5:04 pm
These two brought a smile to my face every morning for years, even in Charlotte. Ed was a great and funny spot and it will stand the test of time. Love Buger too! Hope they land in Atlanta soon. I'll be there where ever they are.
October 14th, 2011
5:09 pm
Why do radio radio stations try and reinvent the wheel when you have something that works dont mess with it . Sorry to see go
October 14th, 2011
6:03 pm
If I had known about Scott Shannon before now, I probably would have been more miffed about his departure, and would have listened to the station more than my mp3 player.
Those are the kind of DJs I like: the kind that really enjoy the music genre their station plays, and can actually provide some background info on it.
I remember when Z93 was like that. My two favorite segments were Breakfast with the Beatles, which was hosted by the morning host Dave Marino, and Out to Lunch, with the mid-day host Mara Davis. I liked Breakfast w/ the Beatles because Dave would play a song or two, and would give a bit of trivial info about the song he just played, or was about to play. Out to Lunch featured songs that all had a common theme, like if they mentioned weather, sounded like something you'd order at a drive-thru or a bar, or when Al Gore was campaigning in Atlanta back in 2000, she did songs with the name "Al" in them, or songs by people with the name "Al".
October 14th, 2011
7:45 pm
106.7 lost this listener and i am sure alot more. good luck randy and spiff hope you land on your feet
somewhere soon
October 15th, 2011
1:38 am
Dear Randy and Spiff,
I am so bummed. I KNEW there was a problem when I saw that "Spiff Sports" had changed to "The Morning Sports Report.' Yuck! It wasn't just that Spiff and his 'Young Friend" were on vacation. Reality sunk in. I grieved when you were let go on Fox 97. I felt resurrected again when I found you on 106. I am NOT a morning person, but hearing you two banter in the morning was GREAT before I started my day. I loved the listeners who called in and had just as great a sense of humor. It was as if all of Atlanta had a good chuckle before the day started. That's some pretty positive energy for the morning. Better for ya than coffee. The banter you have is genuine and fun. You couldn't work together for that long and not be good friends. It showed. When the world was in the midst of tragedy, you were respectful of the event. I won't be listening to the station anymore for sure…but will keep a look out for wherever you guys land. Thanks for bringing joy to those of us who appreciated you on the air. God bless you both.
October 15th, 2011
7:10 am
Yeah I noticed the lack of clues about R & S being on vacation the last few days and finally realized they were probably let go so just had to get up this morning and look it up. I won't be listening to that station any longer now. I haven't liked the station in the afternoon since Scott Shannon has been gone and the morning show with Randy and Spiff was the only thing left for me to listen to. Now that is gone. The River will be my next station as I don't have satellite radio. Hopefully R & S will be back on the air soon.
October 15th, 2011
8:23 am
what's worse is they got rid of kaedy kiley on 97.1,and now have a syndicated morning show featuring an old washed up has been eddie money,i listned to kaedy kiley back when she was on 96rock thought she was great
October 15th, 2011
9:41 am
106.7 will go off the air now look for some mexican chanel to replace it god bless
October 15th, 2011
2:29 pm
I have totally given up on morning radio now. I listened to Randy and Spiff when I first moved to Atlanta. Then as Fox97 went away, I listened to Steve and Vicki. They went to B98.5 FM, then the station fired Steve who is now in Colorado. Vicki is good, but the same show flavor is just gone. Then I rejoined Randy and Spiff who are hysterical and now they're gone. Well, I like the idea one listener had – to go satellite or another listener's idea – go iPod. You'd think an "international" city like Atlanta could come up with something in the morning other than pap. I'm sick of it.


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All this deserves is a flat "what.", but I can't just put that in a comment because Akismet doesn't like it.
This might seem over-engineered but how else could you implement an "error" case of white at one stage and purple at another....
Well, so much for trying to understand the "logic" behind the "color string"…
Anyway, I, for one, would like to formally and wholeheartedly congratulate snoofle for his first article as a TDWTF writer.
This was written in the early nineties but the code is in SVN???
OK maybe you meant nineteen-nineties but still...
OMG snoofle???
{bows respectfully}
OK guys enough of that. Time to start ripping him apart.
Doesn't mean that the code was originally committed to SVN, just that someone has committed it since. (It could have been originally in CVS or RCS or even — $DEITY help us — SCCS; there are tools for migrating.)
The thought of that code just made me turn #1AC898
Call me Mister Slowcoach, but is it not the case that 65535 and FFFF return different colours? I'm also a little confused at the -2147483633 and &H80000005 and &H8000000F ...
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 08:44 • by Arnold Judas Rimmer (unregistered)
What, purple?
Considering that I spend more time searching the Side Bar for snoofle stories than reading the Feature Articles, I'd say the debut was long overdue.
Did I miss something or is the color just in BGR format with leading zeroes? So "FF" is parsed as hex 0x000000FF and so is (1,0,0) in the 0..1 RGB color space. "FF00" is 0x0000FF00 and so is (0,1,0): green (or "lime"). Orange then seems to be high red, medium-high green, and high blue, which makes sense.
Admittedly, there are still a few WTFs in there. The dark vs. light grey values seem to have been reversed. It also seems that "8000000F" is treated as light grey, although I'm guessing the value is in aBGR format and the "80" refers to transparency (which we're going to quietly call grey 'cause argh).
Then again: if this is how the color management works, I can't wait to see the widget layout system.
(I meant to say that orange includes a medium blue component. Whoops.)
I believe what you missed is that the colors are serializable, and don't really need to be strings.
I'll give you a hint. Those values aren't hex or ints.
Under either RGB or BGR that doesn't look even slightly purple.
Do you operate in RBG or BRG?
I like that the thin client code is VB while the server is C#. I don't know the reason behind it. Maybe the company switched to C# and the thin client survived in VB, or maybe they use the different languages to really let the programmers know which side they are coding for. Either way, I still find it amusing.
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 09:15 • by Damien (unregistered)
I'm puzzled by what distinction you're trying to draw by introducing the nineteen- prefix. If someone says nineties to you, what year, decade or time period do you assume, if it's not the nineteen-nineties?
Aye. I am surprised that some of his more recent stories have not been posted as "The Best of the Side Bar".
If it were the 1890s would one use a Difference Engine to see what was modified on that last commit?
Well, how can people just assume that? I mean, why don't they just get off their lazy butts and say "1990s"? I mean, I don't know shinola about the stupid 1990's. Dumb stupid era
What is wrong with people? How can they be so sloppy? I mean, why don't we just throw out the damn, stupid calendar If no one's going to use it? I mean geez, a bunch of ninies and feebs. Morons, morons, all of you, man!
//How can I let that comment pass without a MST3K reference?
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 09:29 • by jonkenson (unregistered)
I'm interested in this answer as well
...coming soon ;)
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 10:13 • by Overly Attentive Gizzard (unregistered)
"The fuck?" is all I could muster at this one.
Maybe at some point it did translate to a proper color and that was factored out when a stupid intern tried to "fix" something he didn't understand?
Groan. Here we go again... It's exactly that kind of thinking that created the Y2K mess. Please think of the poor slobs wasting time by trolling dailyWTF archives in 2099 and fully qualify your dates, people!
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 10:28 • by Maltz (unregistered)
If this was written in the early 90's, the clients probably couldn't even display more than 256 colors, and maybe less depending on how new the hardware was at the time. It's hard to imagine the original program used 24bit values for color.
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2013-01-08 10:31 • by Maltz (unregistered)
Leave Mr. Gloop alone. Even on a good day, he's #A2C8BF
Your answer is in the first paragraph.
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2013-01-08 10:41 • by pezpunk (unregistered)
i fail to see a viable case for the term "90s" referring to any decade other than the one spanning AD 90 to AD 99, at least by default. any other interpretation would be unnecessarily arbitrary and unintuitive. of course, prefacing all comments with a set of default assumptions, in xml format for human readability, would clear up these kinds of misunderstandings and allow greater flexibility in the long run.
I don't see a WTF; I see evolution of the client code.
Considering that Industrial devices without a file system in the 1990s, followed some strange standards. Looking back you may find that the codes directly set both color and some other attribute, like blink. There may even be another function that takes the color codes and sets this attribute. If the original developer discovered the color object and fixed the code on the devices; it would require all the deployed server code to be updated to eliminate the color codes.
Exactly. Those of us who were not in diapers or nursery school in the nineteen-nineties learned through prolonged torture to be precise with dates. (Searching old musty code for Y2K errors is slightly less fun than self-applying a full body tattoo with a dull fountain pen. Also, it takes longer, is more error-prone, and causes greater pain when things go wrong.)
And for those poor slobs in 2099, we probably ought to specify Earth calendar, unadjusted for relativistic effects, just to be sure.
It could well be that the upper 0x80 is an indication that its a system-defined color (as opposed to an RGB one), and the 0x00000F the index (IIRC VisualBasic did it that way). If so its the value for COLOR_BTNFACE (which is a gray shade) as used with (for example) GetSysColor (in User32.DLL).
In that case the translation makes sort of sense, as the values are not colors, and need to be converted.
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2013-01-08 11:21 • by HowItWorks (unregistered)
Being from "the early nineties" most likely VB3 or VB4, definitely before VB.Net.
Is part of the WTF that they continue to use '"Industrial" handheld devices' for the client that are now* approximately 20 years** old?
* 8 January, 2023 Gregorian calander, 1615 UTC, for those who want precise
** outer rim Milky Way, Solar System, Earth standard years
You did that on purpose, right?
The One True Date Format for today is 2013-01-08.
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2013-01-08 11:37 • by Alfred (unregistered)
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2013-01-08 11:41 • by HowItWorks (unregistered)
No, but it's more fun that I did.
Additional trivia, it's known the Gregorian monk trying to calculate the birth of Jesus for his calander made an error of at least 5 years. Plus he started at year 1 rather than 0 because the concept of zero was not understood. Only emphasizing that dates and times systems are arbitrary human constructs.
You are dumb. Anyone reading this 80 years or more from now would see the date stamps and automatically know that of course we're not discussing a WTF that occurred in the future, or predating the existence of digital computers. Dummy.
Yet more proof that we really need to convert over to counting Planck-times since the Big Bang, and none of this local-planetary-orbits-since-a-mythological-event nonsense.
Seconds are well-defined (caesium-133 hyperfine transitions IIRC), so really one just needs to count the number of seconds since the beginning of time (1970-01-01 01:00:00 British Standard Time).
Sadly POSIX gets this almost-but-not-quite correct; it screws up royally wrt leap seconds.
No, he started at 1 because that was the accepted style of counting years. Dates were frequently cited as (e.g.) "... the first year of the reign of King Xyzzy ...". So the first year after the birth of Jesus would naturally be labelled year 1.
I think you'll find that "BST" is abbreviationese for "British Summer Time". And the UNIX epoch is normally quoted as 1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC, even if that isn't necessarily the right time zone/standard.
And the British don't use BST in the middle of January, even if it is sometimes hard to tell British summer and winter apart.
We're going to party like it's AD 99. But the developer of this WTF isn't invited.
TRWTF, as this detail illustrates, is that "Color" is actually "Flavor". Notice also the consistent use of "Lime" instead of green.
(And from past experience with the Slush Puppy dispensers at Snappy Mart in Silver City, New Mexico, "Blue" should actually be "Coconut".)
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 12:07 • by urza9814 (unregistered)
....in what frame of reference? As soon as you have motion, you lose any hope of a universal, non-arbitrary time standard.
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 12:08 • by urza9814 (unregistered)
....in what frame of reference? As soon as you have motion, you lose any hope of a universal, non-arbitrary time standard.
[Sorry -- forgot to quote!]
Re: Color Me Stupid
2013-01-08 12:09 • by urza9814 (unregistered)
Aaand I quoted the wrong one. You people add posts too fast! ;)
Anyway, this is what the following comment was supposed to be referencing, heavy apologies for reposting again:
....in what frame of reference? As soon as you have motion, you lose any hope of a universal, non-arbitrary time standard.
This. (and why I wish I could just +1 your comment)
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2013-01-08 12:14 • by Tristram (unregistered)
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PlantTherapy: Hostas as a Cut Flower
For any backyard gardener, planter owner, or gardener in the shade you are no stranger to this versatile bunch of plants. Hostas are easy to care for, spread like wildfire, and come in an infinite variety of textures, patterns and colors (within the range of green, of course).
But the leaves also get sold for cut flowers as well - the shot above and those after the jump are from the Plant District on 28th street. Who knew your garden was on the cutting edge of floral fashion?
The plant district sells these bundles of leaves for $8.50 each, which might seem funny to those of you with tons of these plants growing in the garden shade! But...
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hostas are great. so are white impatiens.
I LOVE my hostas and my big goal for next year is to find and plant several of the "Captain Kirk" variety: http://www.dutchgardens.com/Captain%20Kirk%20Hosta/30529,default,pd.html
I hope they will live long and prosper...
White impatiens are gorgeous! They are in the garden at the MOMA now and they're beautiful.
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TO: Interdisciplinary Team
FROM: Stan Nuffer
DATE: April 15, 1987
SUBJECT: Logan Canyon Environmental Study
The nineteenth Interdisciplinary Team Meeting was held on
March 30, 1987 at 3:00 p.m. at UDOT District Office in Odgen,
Utah. Enclosed are the minutes for your review. Also attached
for review is the Technical Memorandum on the existing
conditions portion of the socio-economic technical memorandum.
The next meeting will be held on Monday, April 20, 1987 at
7:00 p.m at the U.S. Forest Service District Office in Logan,
Utah. The agenda will be as follows:
1. Review minutes of March 30 meeting.
2. Final discussion of traffic projections.
3. Discuss summaries of scoping meeting testimony (to be
distributed at the meeting) .
4. Discussion on Chapter 7 - components of roadway
5. Discussion of the existing conditions portions of the
aquatic resources, recreation/land use and socio-economic
technical memorandums.
6. Outline for day-long work session session in Canyon on
Tuesday, April 21, starting at 7:30 a.m.
Future meeting schedule:
May 4 - 3:00 p.m., District Office
May 18 - 3:00 p.m., Brigham City
MINUTES OF ID TE~l MEETING
March 30, 1987
Stan Nuffer, CH2M HILL
Cliff Forsgren, CH2M HILL
Fred LaBar, USFS
Mark Shaw, USFS
Gale Larson, Valley Engineering
Arlo Waddops, Valley Engineering
Duncan Silver, FHWA
Bruce Brotherson, UDOT
Lynn Zollinger, UDOT
John Neil, UDOT
Howard Richardson, UDOT
Steve Flint, Audobon Assoc.
Rudy Lukez, Sierra Club
Bill Helm
Item 1 - Review of Minutes
Minutes of the previous meeting were reviewed and approved,
with some minor changes.
Item 2 - Scoping Meeting Summaries
Copies of the meeting transcripts were distributed. Team
members were informed that copies of the written comments
will be distributed after April 6. It was reported that the
Cache County ~ouncil is going to request an extension of
time to comment. Stan Nuffer indicated that the objective
is to obtain as much input as possible and that comments
will be given consideration even if they are received after
the deadline. Hopefully, there will not be too many so that
the summary can be prepared and some decisions made on the
major issues.
Item 3 - Discussion of Alternatives C1, D1, D2, and D3
There was a discussion about these alternatives in preparation
for a trip to the Canyon. Duncan Silver asked how the
impacts of a 35 MPH alternative would be evaluated and compared
to a 40 MPH alternative. The impacts would depend
upon the amount of additional area affected due to flattening
Visual impacts would be evaluated using the USFS system that
was described by Clark Ostergaard.
Steve Flint wanted to be sure that the accident data on the
16 sites that have higher than average accident occurrences
was available when the team went into the Canyon. He also
asked if it would be possible to consider spot improvements
that were outside the project boundaries. There is a location
approximately 0.7 miles west of Right Fork that might
be suitable for a slow vehicle turnout.
In preparation for the meeting in the Canyon, some sections
will be staked to show the construction limits of the alternatives
Project maps at a scale of 1" = 200' were distributed
and locations to be staked identified. Valley
Engineering will survey and place stakes at those locations
a few days prior to the I.D. Team meeting.
Item 4 - Aquatic Resources and Recreation/Land Use Technical
Copies of the aquatic resources and recreation/land use "
technical memos were distributed to the I.D. Team members.
There will be some discussion on these after team members
have had a chance to review them.
Item 6 - Continued Discussion of Traffic Projections
Cliff Forsgren distributed some additional information on
traffic projections. A range of future traffic flows were
developed using traffic volumes and northern Utah populations
from 1940 to the present. The team members were asked to
review and give their comments.
Duncan Silver indicated that he felt that there was no real
benefit in continuing to rework future traffic projections.
The road cannot meet todays needs, even with a modified
standard and he could see no benefit in spending more time
working to precisely determine future volumes.
Item 7 - Comments on Chapter 7
Due to the length of the meeting, discussion was postponed
to a future date.
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UW-Superior now has 5 cadets on campus this fall and they train with other cadets from around the Twin Ports region. They include CSS, UMD and Lake Superior College. It has been a very popular program in the past at UW-Superior. Lt. Col. Fischbach said, "Building our cross-town relationships and core of cadets is important. We typically get the best students who are going to become cadets that will produce the best second lieutenants in the Air Force and typically our crosstown universities provide that."
Mark Goehring, Recruiting Flight Commander was impressed with what he saw here at UW-Superior as well. "This is huge, huge help to have a veteran's and nontraditional center and working with Carl on expanding the ROTC program, he's been a big, big help for me. I love being here and working with Carl."
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P-Bruins Tally Four Goals in Preseason Opener
Marlborough, MA - The Providence Bruins defeated the Springfield Falcons 4-1 in their first preseason game this evening at the New England Sports Center. Scoring for Providence was Jamie Tardif, Carter Camper, Matthew Pistilli and Justin Florek.
The Providence Bruins came out of the locker room flying and pummeled Curtis McElhinney with shots right off the opening puck drop. It didn't take long for the P-Bruins to find the net. Second-year P-Bruin forward Tardif got on the board at 4:15 of the opening frame off a helper from Ryan Lowery and Kelsey Wilson, both of which are at training camp on PTOs. Although the P-Bruins didn't light the lamp again in the first period, the Black and Gold dominated every aspect of play, beating Springfield to the puck and intercepting their breakout attempts.
The second period was the time for the young guns to shine. Second-year pro and Providence's leading scorer last year, Camper opened the scoring on the power play at 6:42 of the second period to give the P-Bruins a 2-0 lead. He was assisted by David Warsofsky. Just six minutes later, Pistilli added his first goal of the preseason and first in a P-Bruins sweater. Wilson added his second helper of the night on the third goal of the contest. Shortly after the goal, P-Bruins' tough guy, Tyler Randell, dropped the gloves and delivered some devastating blows to Nathan Moon.
The P-Bruins opened the final frame with Niklas Svedberg between the pipes and a quick power play tally from rookie Florek, his first of the preseason. Craig Cunningham added the assist to give Providence a 4-0 lead. Springfield gained momentum in the second half of the third frame and after many failed attempts, finally put away their first goal of the season at 17:11. Despite the late goal, Providence held on for the 4-1 win.


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I am curious as to why a law-abiding citizen would object to a background check.
I can understand objecting to the type of guns a person can own. I personally don't have a use for a semi-automatic rifle. If someone who has passed a background check wants one, so be it. The ban on semi-automatic weapons and limited capacity magazines are not that important. What is important are the mental and character traits of the person that owns them.
Let's save a lot of time and money in our government and pass a law that requires mandatory background checks for all gun purchases. This should include guns shops, gun shows and private sales. Possibly a law that requires a firearm owners identification card.
To buy a gun you must possess an ID card that includes the background check before it is issued. My wife and I personally own a firearm. We had a background check. It's no big deal.
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Stocks may be winners on Friday
If history is a guide, stocks should have a decent day. But Korean tensions and financial woes in Europe may weigh on the markets. The week ahead will be important.
Admittedly, the day after Thanksgiving is one of those days most investors pay little attention to.
Trading ends early. There's not much volume. There aren't any economic reports or U.S. corporate earnings to move markets. This time, you should keep an ear open to the market news.
The European debt-market problems aren't going away. Korea isn't either. North Korean saber-rattling was hurting Asian and European markets on Friday. The dollar was rallying against major currencies.
That could threaten the reputation of the Friday after Thanksgiving as a winner for stocks.
The Dow Jones industrials ($INDU) have risen on the day after Thanksgiving in 19 of the past 30 years. If you look at the total change between the Wednesday before and the Friday after Thanksgiving, the Dow has risen in 20 of the last 30 years. Futures trading late Thursday suggests U.S. will open modestly higher.
The Dow jumped nearly 350 points on the Wednesday and Friday of Thanksgiving week in November 2008. Sadly, there was no follow-through. The blue chips fell 679 points on the following Monday. But 2008 was, after all, a horrible year.
2009 wasn't much kinder. The Dow dropped 154 points on the Friday after Thanksgiving. But November 2009 was a good month. The index jumped 6.5% and rose an additional 0.8% in December.
So far, the Dow is up 0.6% this month, with the Standard & Poor's 500 Index ($INX) up 1.3% and the Nasdaq Composite Index ($COMPX) up 1.4%.
All that said, the past is not prologue.
Boeing (BA) may pressure the market Friday. Late Wednesday, the company said that it must modify portions of the electrical system on its 787 Dreamliner, after an in-flight fire aboard a test plane two weeks ago.
That will likely delay the first delays of the plane. A new delivery schedule will come out in a few weeks.
Boeing closed Wednesday up 2.9% to $65.41. A one-dollar move in its shares is equal to about 8 Dow points.
Moreover, the European situation remains very serious.
Ireland has agreed to cut its domestic budget by 20% over the next four years, which guarantees its economy will crawl over that time frame.
There are worries that the debt problems of Portugal, the poorest nation in the European Union, will require emergency assistance, perhaps as early as next week. And then come the problems of Spain, whose economy is larger than the economies of Ireland, Portugal and Greece combined.
At the same time, markets across Asia and in Europe were lower on Friday after North Korea said that impending military exercises by the South and the United States were pushing the region toward conflict.
Japan's Nikkei-225 Index ($JP:N225) was off slightly, but losses were deeper for markets in Shanghai, Seoul, and Indonesia.
Britain's FTSE-100 Index ($GB:UKX) and Germany's Dax Index ($DE:DAX) were both down more than 1% in early trading.
A volatile week ahead?
Next week will likely be volatile. Especially if Europe's crisis continues. There will be lots of talk about whether retailers saw strong holiday shopping over the weekend. Real numbers, however, will be hard to come by.
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It has been several years since the two of them worked together, but Chris Jericho still harbors a good amount of resentment towards Goldberg. During a one night show in London, Jericho expressed his feelings about the former WCW champion to the audience. He stated that Golberg had a bad attitude, no sense of humor and was an idiot. Jericho also noted that a pay per view match between the two of them never took place because Goldberg opted to go hunting that day instead.
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Now that he has received his release from WWE, Brodus Clay has already planned out the next phase of his life. Rather than jumping back into the wrestling ring immediately, the former bodyguard has opted to book himself on a trip to Japan, so that he can help protest against those that are hunting dolphins. Clay left open the possibility of working some matches in Japan if that option were to become available to him.
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Former WWE star Ted DiBiase recently mentioned that he wanted to hunt with Shawn Michaels, which has led to speculations that he could be setting up a guest appearance on Michaels' television show.
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A picture of Velvet Sky dressed in a girl scout costume. The TNA Knockout is hanging out with Candice Michelle, who is wearing a lovely white dress, and Rosita, who looks to be dressed as a sexy gingerbread girl.
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Through Twitter, Candice Michelle revealed that she attended the Keith Sweat concert. She also posted this rather sensual picture of herself and a friend outside the venue. The former WWE diva is wearing a tight leather shirt.
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This week, the Supreme Court will once again consider the constitutionality of racial preferences in admissions decisions by public universities.
Abigail Fisher, a white 22 year-old, who recently graduated from Louisiana State University, said the University of Texas held her race against her when it didn't admit her.
"I'm hoping," she said, "that they'll completely take race out of the issue in terms of admissions and that everyone will be able to get into any school that they want no matter what race they are but solely based on their merit and if they work hard for it…"
"Three-quarters of applicants from Texas are admitted under a program that guarantees admission to the top students in every high school in the state. (Almost everyone calls this the Top Ten program, though the percentage cutoff can vary. Ms. Fisher barely missed the cutoff.) The remaining Texas students and those from elsewhere are considered under standards that take account of academic achievement and other factors, including race and ethnicity."
The University of Texas said Fisher wouldn't have been admitted regardless of race. But the larger defense is that it must be free to put together a varied student body, a view supported by a 2003 Supreme Court ruling in Grutter V. Bollinger.
"Admissions officers at colleges and universities almost universally endorse the idea that students from diverse backgrounds learn from each other, overcome stereotypes, and in so doing prepare themselves for leadership positions in society. Many critics of affirmative action say that there is at best a weak correlation between race and having a range of views presented in the classroom."
"Others say the Constitution does not permit the government to sort people by race, no matter how worthy its goal. "While racial diversity on college campuses is beneficial, it cannot be attained by racial discrimination," said Edward Blum, an adviser to Ms. Fisher and a driving force behind the Fisher case…."
(The story and cases are fairly complicated. Click the link to read all of it. I can only pull a few paragraphs.)
In the college class that I teach I do think it adds to the experience and discussion to have students of different races and from different countries. It's interesting how their experiences growing up affect their news judgment and the subjects they are interested in covering. It adds so much to our discussions to know what would and wouldn't be allowed on the front of a foreign newspaper.
So what do you think: Should race be considered in college admissions? What do you think of the Top 10 approach? When you were in college, were your classes diverse? How did that affect your learning?
October 9th, 2012
6:37 am
these same colleges would also start a less talented football / basketball/ baseball player just to increase diversity of the team?
October 9th, 2012
6:53 am
I was really hurt when I had applied to college and didn't get into the school. I saw that my ethnicity of being Asian didn't help me but probably made it harder. However having graduated many years now from a great University, working and living life I understand how hard it is for minority kids coming from lower income background to get the same chances in life.
I have grown more understanding as to why there is affirmative action and have accepted it because we "live together in a society" we want the betterment of our society. Chances were already against them from their surroundings and environment, it is only fair they also get some advantages too.
October 9th, 2012
7:13 am
Affirmative action is discriminatory. So let's see, we want to end racial discrimination but we now discriminate based upon race to get into college. In our goofy world, this makes sense?
October 9th, 2012
7:36 am
How is it fair that if I happen to be of one race but a person of a different race is more qualified that I get to take advantage of something that I had absolutely no control over?
October 9th, 2012
7:39 am
It's only OK if you have enough mouthpieces stumping for your partucular color. Oh, and unless you are caucasian. Hey, I see a little "asian" in caucasian…
October 9th, 2012
8:16 am
No race SHOULD NOT be considered. Hard work, good grade, community involvement, etc. SHOULD be considered.
But to deny admission to one so someone of another ethnicity can attend is racial. I don't care what color your skin is.
Everyone in this country is born with the same opportunity to succeed. It's what you do with your life, and the decisions you make aoong the way, that lead you where you are today.
October 9th, 2012
8:17 am
Mayhem said it perfectly.
October 9th, 2012
8:31 am
Perfectly said Mayhem.
October 9th, 2012
8:36 am
At this point in our country, the last couple of generations have had the same opportunity to go to the same government provided public educational institutions. Which means, we've had the same access to the same basic education.
We should no longer have to make any exceptions based on race, gender, etc.
And if we do, would someone please provide a definitive answer on what it will take to finally "be even". Not a catch phrase with no actualy definition, no constantly changing goal that can only be defined, and of course re-defined as necessary, bu you.
Give me an actual measurement of what constitutes equality. And stick to it.
October 9th, 2012
8:46 am
Thank you!! Sorry for all the typos….
October 9th, 2012
8:47 am
Although this is a very sensitive and challenging issue, to those that believe we all have the same opportunity to succeed, you need to get out of the suburbs or your downtown condos more often. Go visit places such as Appalachia, the Mississippi Delta, or the poorest sections of our inner cities and rural communities. Then get back with me about everyone having the "same" opportunity. Let's try to think this one through while avoiding the clichés.
October 9th, 2012
8:56 am
Pull your head our of your %&*. Everyone is born with the same opportunities. There is no invisible barrier that is preventing these people from leaving the "poorest sections of our inner cities." If the parents are too dumb to leave so that they can have better lives for their families, then be prepared to live with the consequences. Also, please explain how so many kids from these "poorest sections of our innner cities" become successful. As long as idiots like you continue to make excuses for these "poor" people, they will never change.
October 9th, 2012
9:07 am
AMEN Guest!!!
October 9th, 2012
9:14 am
Nicely said, Mayhem, and good question, Jeff.
Instead of race, ability/talent should be considered. Kids should be counseled in the direction of technical school if that is where their talents and interests lie. Not every kid should be trying to get through a traditional college education – we know that doesn't work based on drop out rates and remedial classes. Last time I checked, the economy needs lots of service professionals, and there is no shame (and a good bit of money in some cases!) in that.
October 9th, 2012
9:36 am
To go along with JOD's point-I was watching an episode of the Food Network show "Chopped" the other day, and the contestants were all teenage chefs. They were all under the age of 18, the youngest being a 13 year old girl. 13, and she had much more knowledge of the kitchen than I ever will, as someone in my mid-20s. Why should that 13 year old have to go to through the same high school curriculum/college as someone who wants to be a doctor, teacher, engineer,mechanic, electrician, or business person? In fact, why should all of them have to go through the EXACT SAME curriculum? College basic classes and high school classes are pretty much the same information, with slightly more depth added in college(well, in some cases). This is why charter schools and Montessori(sp?) schools are gaining so much ground and public schools are failing. We're trying to cram every peg into a round shaped hole, and they don't all fit. Jeff is right, the time where Affirmative Action is necessary has long passed. The question of "race or ethnicity" needs to be removed from college applications and everyone needs to be considered equally on merits. Will that result in more caucasian students getting into colleges? Simple population math says of course, because caucasians are still the majority of the population. But that doesn't make it racial, that's just reality. Black, Asian, Hispanic, and whatever other races occupy this country are still going to get into school, and in greater and greater numbers. Affirmative Action is nothing but Democrats telling minorities "You can't do it on your own, you have to have our help." Its pretty insulting when you think about it.
October 9th, 2012
9:44 am
Does anyone really think ability and talent aren't considered? Whenever arguments about affirmative action come up, people immediately start talking about it as if kids pulling straight Cs are regularly being admitted over stellar students because of their race.
October 9th, 2012
9:44 am
Peace, do you mean avoid cliche's like "get out of the suburbs"? I lived in dowtown Atlanta for more than 10 years. Careful with YOUR cliche's, assumptions and stereotypes.
October 9th, 2012
10:01 am
There will never be true equality until questions of race are as insignificant as what color of hair someone has. I loved Denzel Washington's response to a fairly ingenuous reporter after he and Halle Berry both won the Academy Award. When asked if he thought it was a big moment for civil rights because two people of color had won the top spots in the Academy Awards, his response was unfailingly polite but direct when he commented something to the effect that true equality would be if reporters didn't notice what color his skin was when he won an award.
As long as exceptions are made because of the color of someone's skin, there will always be resentments and accusations of unfairness. I've always wondered: At what point do we STOP making "exceptions" for someone's race? How do you determine when we've reached true "equality"? What, exactly, is the deciding factor, or the magic number that says: "OK, we're there. We need to stop making excuses for non-performers."? At this point, it's been almost 50 years since the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That's 2 and a half generations of affirmative action, and we're STILL arguing over quotas.
What would happen if we did take race out of application process and judged everyone simply on their accomplishments? Isn't that the ultimate goal? So why not just DO it?
October 9th, 2012
10:02 am
So you would be completely fine if you and another candidate were up for the same position and had the same qualifications and the only reason they chose the other candidate over you was because his race helped them fill a quota?
You are saying that is fair?
October 9th, 2012
10:06 am
Affirmative action should be abolished. Time to "not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
October 9th, 2012
10:11 am
in the wise words of a supreme court justice…."the way to end discrimination based on race, is to stop discriminating based on race".
October 9th, 2012
10:21 am
for those asking how we know things are equal: I propose a litmus test, oe test in which a single factor (as an attitude, event, or fact) is decisive.
Here is the test I propose: When a man who is of the "minority" race, obtains the highest office of the land (Commander in Chief…aka President)…having received the majority of the electoral votes in a given presidencial race, we have achieved equality through a litmus test.
Now for those opposed we achieved that limitmus in 2008. SO it obviously CAN occur.
October 9th, 2012
10:24 am
Of course race should not be considered in college admissions. Logically, by using race as a determining factor, the colleges are saying that because you are a certain race, you are inherently smarter (or dumber) than someone of a different race. Or better able to learn based on your race. Of my children, they all learn differently and some have done better in the educational arena. All of them happen to be of the same race.
October 9th, 2012
10:57 am
I agree with Mayhem. Affirmative action is racism. If you want to support those with fewer opportunities, you should be looking a socioeconomic status, not race. However, the best idea is to make the decisions based purely on merit.
October 9th, 2012
11:02 am
The problem can be solved by applying discrimination to family income- those with less income get a place. This is the best way to allow people to move up in society, and surprise! It eliminates racial injustice as well.
There is certainly no reason why a black kid from a rich family should get priority over a white kid from a poor family. The rich kid most likely has applied to a number of schools- the poor guy to only one or two. Give the poor kid a chance first, and race won't matter.
October 9th, 2012
11:03 am
Race should only be considered as a tie-breaker and only if the applicants meet all of the base subjective standards. Dumbing down college to compensate for bad lower education is bad for everyone. We need programs that get to the kids long before they're applying to college.
October 9th, 2012
11:15 am
VOR, I'm saying meaningful discussion never happens because people can't seem to get past the idea that considering race = not considering ability and talent. Using your scenario, yes, it's unfair for a quota to be the primary tie-breaking factor (by the way, are there actual quotas used anywhere?). But what if you had 10 situations as you described in different workplaces, race was supposedly not a factor, and all the hirers chose white candidates? That has been common in the past and what affirmative action was trying to remedy.
I don't like the idea of quotas, but racial discrimination in the workplace has been common — the question is to what extent and do we still need affirmative action for employment and university admissions? Have we reached a point where the playing field is fairly level? I don't know the answer.
DB asked an important question: "What would happen if we did take race out of application process and judged everyone simply on their accomplishments? Isn't that the ultimate goal?" I don't think that is the ultimate goal for many schools. I think they have dual goals of admitting great students and building a student body that will lead to the best possible learning environment. Many people, myself included, believe bringing students together from a broad range of backgrounds, including but not limited to different races and ethnicities, creates a better learning environment for everyone. If taking race into consideration in admissions is the only way they know to accomplish that, then I can see why universities wouldn't want to eliminate it.
October 9th, 2012
11:24 am
"Half the state colleges in Georgia have fewer students this year than last"
Front page of AJC.com
Perhaps if college's didn't keep raising the tuition and applied sense to fees (why do I pay an athletic fee as a part time online student?) they would get people enrolled regardless of race.
October 9th, 2012
11:25 am
My guess is it all comes down to the almighty dollar. The more diverse your "campus" the more federal funding you receive????
October 9th, 2012
11:48 am
@FCM – I just finished reading that, too. I thought this was telling – from a 20-year-old student who dropped out this year: "It was frustrating to take out loans and pay for college when I truly had no desire to go," Ballard said. "I was pressured to go to college because that's what you do right after high school, but I'm just not ready yet."
October 9th, 2012
11:50 am
Race should not be considered at all, only merit. Making any decision based on race is discriminatory. Period.
October 9th, 2012
12:06 pm
"Race should only be considered as a tie-breaker and only if the applicants meet all of the base subjective standards." Wow, what a dumb statement. This is not game. This is about lives. So, I guess you're saying everything being equal, screw the white kid.
October 9th, 2012
1:16 pm
I walked in on my teen watching a Judge Judy espisode yesterday just as the Judge was commenting on why our economy will never get better. A young man on the show had taken out over 14k in tuition loans and just dropped out. He had recieved a refund of over 3k from one school and he spent the $$ to move out of state rather than pay it back toward his loans. When JJ asked if he planned on paying them back, he replied that he did not have a job so he did not see any way of ever doing so, hence, her statement. It made me wonder how much $$ we have thrown away on kids gettting these grants with no intention of ever finishing school and only taking the loans because they were available with ease. My daughter took a grant out a couple years ago and went one year and then decided to join the army but she had paid back all of what she took out as of this date. It's a requirement for being in the army but just how many will actually pay them back that don't finish school? Not many would be my guess and if we don't put some guidelines in place in order to get these grants, it's only going to drain our economy even more in the years to come.
October 9th, 2012
1:17 pm
@Jenna: I disagree strongly. I can't even argue what you said — it's so far beyond my belief that race should be a non-factor, I can't even formulate a coherent rebuttal.
@LeeH1: Income as a measurement? Really? So, if you have a highly motivated, highly intelligent student who has worked his ass off all through school, he needs to go to the back fo the line because his PARENTS made more moeny than someone else's PARENTS? Really? So much for individual effort — nothing matters except what kind of money your parents pull down?
@HB: Interesting take on admissions. Part of me, though, wonders if that kind of diversity wouldn't happen naturally with blind admissions. Your comment, Many people, myself included, believe bringing students together from a broad range of backgrounds, including but not limited to different races and ethnicities, creates a better learning environment for everyone." seems to beg the question that this kind of diversity can't be accomplished through selection for talent and achievement alone. If talent and achievement occur regardless of race or culture, then why should race or culture be an artificial barrier? It's an interesting question. What ARE colleges trying to accomplish? On one hand, they are seen as an incubator for teaching people how to think. On another hand, they are seen as the "new high school", in that if you don't have a college degree, it's like not having a high school diploma 50 years ago. With my own kids almost all graduated from college, it's been interesting to see how the expectations for college have changed over the last few generations. It used to be that college was seen as a means of teaching people how to think and giving them a broader base of knowledge from which to apply decisions. Nowadays, it seems more like some sort of expensive trade school, where kids are encouraged to only major in things that will "make them money" after they graduate,
October 9th, 2012
1:33 pm
Like several others I have to agree with Mayhem at 8:16am. Perfectly stated.
October 9th, 2012
2:01 pm
DB, I think the issue is partly how talent and achievement are determined. Some of what schools rely on to determine talent — SAT scores, GPA, difficulty of coursework — can be skewed by factors that often correlate with race and culture, such as educational background of parents, language spoken at home, income of family and the community (a not terribly poor kid from a very poor area could be at a disadvantage by having a lousy public with few advanced course offerings), etc. And racial discrimination from the past, even if there is less of it now, has a lingering impact — minority families are still less well off statistically than white families. That's not to say that the academic criteria used by admissions department are bad, but I do think if using those alone with no consideration given to non-merit factors, they're not going to have as diverse a group as they're aiming for and they may not find the talent they want. A kid from a working class family for whom English not the primary language spoken at home and who attends a so-so public school may be harder working and smarter than a kid with well-educated parents and a tougher h.s. curriculum who has the same SAT score. I do think it would be foolish for universities to prioritize race over all other demographics, though. A diverse student body should also have kids from different economic backgrounds and different communities (urban, rural, suburban, and if a university that draws nationally, different states). From what I hear, high school attended is often a big non-merit consideration. A student from a great high school will have a tougher time getting into some schools. Colleges don't want too many students from one school, so even though a student may have higher scores than someone on the other side of the state, if there are 10 better students at their own school admitted, then they may not be accepted in a effort to maintain geographic diversity.
October 9th, 2012
2:08 pm
What you said has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with culture, e.g., the liberal media and government telling kids that it's ok to be stupid because we'll make the kids that succeed pay more taxes to take care of you. Kids have to see how much it sucks to be dirt poor and then they'll be motivated to study hard.
October 9th, 2012
2:37 pm
The whole problem with the Bollinger decision is that it is predicated on an assumption that "diversity is always better." Although I personally know people from many different backgrounds, that doesn't ipso facto make me a better, wiser or smarter person than someone who hasn't been exposed to people of many different backgrounds. What "diversity" usually means is that someone in power gets to pick people for admission to a group (e.g., university students) on totally subjective standards which they themselves make up. Bollinger allows them to basically say, "Our criteria for admission are whatever the !#@$#$@% we say they are." Same junk is in place at all major companies as well, and it has no place there either.
October 9th, 2012
3:22 pm
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to "assimilate," i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I'm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn't object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.
October 9th, 2012
9:48 pm
@TWG: What in the hell were the teachers in those schools doing? Not to denigrate your efforts — but if a volunteer could come in a few hours a week and end up teaching the kids to read, what in the hell were the teachers doing for the previous four years?
October 10th, 2012
11:26 am
Do ppl not know that affirmative action benefited WHITE women the most. I find it something that white ppl who don't have to worry about being racially profiled have so much to say. College admissions look at more than just race, if race were the case, what about the white ppl that don't get into GT, UGA, GSU, Havard, Yale, etc. Shouldn't they be complaining? There are thousands of universities and b/c this chick didn't get into a college of maybe her first choice she wants to whine. Is she going to whine b/c she didn't get offered that job she really wanted. People that have never experienced TRUE discrimination should hush.
October 10th, 2012
5:33 pm
I am an Asian-American. I graduated from UC Berkeley, which does not have AA and subsequently is 44% Asian (Source: http://berkeley.edu/about/fact.shtml), and I am a CPA. Let me tell you, because I am not Black or Hispanic, no one has given me any preferential treatment.
It's interesting that one of the justices on the court is Black and another is Hispanic. It is commonly understood that they were appointed due to their race and skin color. There is a very high proportion of Asians at all the top universities, but somehow it was easier to find a qualified Black or Hispanic to fill the empty slots!
But also let me tell you that there is plenty of discrimination out there against minorities. I've experienced it at most companies where I have worked. Usually it is subtle; sometimes it is overt. I'm not asking for a handout or preferential treatment; I am simply stating a fact.
I am writing because we live in Round Rock, TX. We sent our kids to Kumon and they go to Westwood, one of the top high schools in the area. My older son got into the university of his choice because he graduated with a 4.0 GPA (on a 5.0 scale). My second son is probably not going to. We all know that my second son will probably lose his spot to a less qualified Black or Hispanic, but we don't whine about it. I tell him that he should have studied harder.
I also know that if one of my kids had ever gone missing, we would be at a disadvantage because their disappearance would not receive the kind of media attention that is given to White victims. Oh well.
Abigail Fisher will be fine. Now that she's in the workforce, racism will now start working in her favor.
So I find it rather amusing to see some Whites playing the "victim card" because, from where I'm standing, Whites in this country are dealt a pretty good hand.
October 15th, 2012
3:23 pm
Affirmative Action benefits mostly white women such as Abigail Fisher. Had she gotten into Harvard or Princeton or even University of Michigan or UCLA her case will be considerably strengthened. Instead, she went to Louisiana State, which tells us that she is not that qualified after all.


text: Golovin 2nd Class City in the Nome Census Area Community Details Area Type Community Current Population 181 Population Comment 2013 DCCED Certified Estimate Pronunciation/Other Names (gah' loh vin); a.k.a. Chinik Community's Judicial District 2 Recording District Cape Nome Census Designated Place (CDP) Yes Borough/Census Area FIPS Code 180 Place FIPS 29180 Geography and Climate Location Golovin is located on a point of land between Golovnin Bay and Golovnin Lagoon on the Seward Peninsula. It is 70 miles east of Nome. Climate Marine climatic influences prevail during the summer when the sea is ice-free. Summer temperatures average 40 to 60 °F; winter temperatures average -2 to 19 °F. Extremes from -40 to 80 °F have been recorded. Average annual precipitation is 19 inches, with 40 inches of snowfall. Golovnin Bay is frozen from early November to mid-May. Community Map Available Yes Map URL http://commerce.alaska.gov/dnn/dcra/PlanningLandManagement/CommunityProfileMaps.aspx Latitude 64.5433 Longitude -163.0292 Sq Mi Land 3.70 Sq Mi Water 0.00 History and Culture History The Eskimo village of "Chinik," located at the present site of Golovin, was originally settled by the Kauweramiut Eskimos who later mixed with the Unaligmiut Eskimos. Golovin was named for Captain Vasili Golovnin of the Russian Navy. In 1887, the Mission Covenant of Sweden established a church and school south of the current site. Around 1890, John Dexter established a trading post that became the center for prospecting information for the entire Seward Peninsula. When gold was discovered in 1898 at Council, Golovin became a supply point for the gold fields. Supplies were shipped from Golovin across Golovnin Lagoon and up the Fish and Niukluk Rivers to Council. A post office was opened in 1899. Reindeer herding was an integral part of the missions in the area in the 1900s. The city was incorporated in 1971. Culture Golovin is an Inupiat Eskimo village with a fishing, herding, and subsistence lifestyle. Federally Recognized Tribe Yes Name of Federally Recognized Tribe Chinik Eskimo Community Local Option Restrictions Ban sale and importation of alcohol. Facilities, Utilities, and Health Care Municipal Facilities & Utilities Watering Point, Water Delivery, School Water, Sewage Haul, Septic Pumping, Washeteria, Electric, Police, Volunteer Fire, Fire Station, Health Clinic, Post Office (federal contract), Fuel Sales, Equipment Lease, Roads, Recreation, Snowmachine Shop Economy Subsistence Yes Number of Commercial Fishing Permit Holders 25 Number of Commercial Fishing Permits Issued 33 CDQ Participant Yes Gallon of Heating Fuel $6.00 (July 2014) Gallon of Gasoline $6.00 (July 2014) Local Labor Market Info URL http://live.laborstats.alaska.gov/alari/index.cfm?r=4&b=17&p=117&goplace=go Transportation Transportation Since there are no roads connecting the city with other areas, access to Golovin is limited to air and sea. However, in the winter the village can also be accessed over land or ice. Both scheduled and chartered flights are available from Nome. A cargo ship brings supplies once each summer from Nome. Locals are interested in a road to White Mountain. The airport was recently relocated, and a new state-owned airport with a gravel runway is available. Scheduled and chartered flights are available (weather permitting) daily from Nome. Barges cannot currently land at Golovin because there is no dock. Supplies are lightered from Nome and offloaded on the beach. There is a small boat dock and a concrete boat ramp. Harbor/Dock No State Ferry No Cargo Barge Yes Road Connection No Coastal Yes Legislative Districts Community's Senate District T Community's House District 39 Miscellaneous Details


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If Doug Fabrizio ever were to interview himself on RadioWest — not that he would want to, he says, because he rambles too much — he probably would ask to hear the story about the stone hearth.
When he was 10, his parents took him to a production of the perky patriotic musical "George M!" at Valley Music Hall. It was just a high-school production, but he was star-struck by the razzle-dazzle. Later, when
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When » Tuesday, Dec. 18, 7 and 8:30 p.m.; the 7 p.m. performance will be broadcast live on KUER, 90.1FM.
Where » Rose Wagner Performing Arts Center's Jeanné Wagner Theatre, 138 W. 300 South, Salt Lake City.
Tickets » $10-$20. Call 801-355-ARTS or visit www.planbtheatre.org for more information.
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he got home, he noticed that the fireplace hearth, with its raised ledge and its three overhead spotlights — well, it was a kind of stage! As long as he didn't take big steps in any direction, he could put on his own "George M!" right there in the basement.
He recruited his sister and some neighborhood kids for the supporting roles and he became the leading man, as well as the director, the producer and the guy who turned the lights on and off. It was the first of many plays staged in the Fabrizios' Bountiful home.
If Doug Fabrizio ever were to interview himself — not that he would want to, because he's not very interesting, he says — the first question he would ask would go something like this: "You've said, Doug Fabrizio, that you wanted to be an actor but you chickened out. Talk about that, if you would."
Leaning forward » For as long as Fabrizio can remember, he wanted to perform. At 5, according to his mother, he came home from the doctor's office, got one of her white shirts, put it on backward and acted out the part of the nurse. He was the kid who, at 7, took a broom, wrapped some white material around the handle and pretended it was a microphone.
He acted at Viewmont High and then enrolled in theater classes at the University of Utah. But in the end, he was too afraid to go to New York City to find work as an actor. Instead, he stayed in Utah and became a radio reporter, news director and, eventually, the host of KUER's RadioWest.
It wasn't the career he intended, but Fabrizio has gained national acclaim and a loyal following. One morning during the public radio station's fall fund drive, I watched a woman volunteer swoon when he walked by. More significant, the guests on his show often describe him as one of the best interviewers in the country.
Radio visionary Jad Abumrad, co-host of WNYC's Radiolab, himself interviews people for a living. Sometimes, Abumrad says, the artifice of the interview can get in the way, because "you have your questions, and your expectations form a kind of barrier." Fabrizio is different. "He has the ability to hold the tension between being extremely prepared and being able to throw those questions out the window."
In other words, Fabrizio does that thing we all mean to do in a conversation but often don't: He listens. If the guest is in the studio, Fabrizio is leaning forward, looking him in the eyes. It's a leaning forward both physically and emotionally. "Doug is driven by an honest desire to know," Abumrad says. It's the kind of intense curiosity that other interviewers pretend to have but often can't pull off.
Yeah, Fabrizio says, but the show could always be better.
Making intimate conversations » On Tuesdays and Fridays, Fabrizio and producers Elaine Clark and Benjamin Bombard meet in his office in the Eccles Broadcast Center on the University of Utah campus to do a post-mortem on the week's shows. They're a tough crowd.
On this particular morning, Clark hands out a list of previous shows, with a letter grade next to each. There are six C+s, three B-s and one B.
"This is the European grading system," Clark explains. "No grade inflation. If we get a B, we're dancing."
"If we get a B, we put it on the refrigerator," Bombard says.
Fabrizio is his own toughest critic, reserving a B+ or the very rare A for shows in which he thinks he has actually pulled off what he sets out to do. His favorite shows are the ones they call "intimate conversations," for example the one he had in 2004 with Gene Jacobsen, a former University of Utah professor who survived World War II's Bataan Death March.
Fabrizio grades himself hard because he hates complacency. One thing he has going for him is that his lack of self-confidence means he's always afraid he won't be prepared enough.
Some mornings he gets to KUER at 4:30 to prepare for the day's show, coming up with pages of questions, looking always for moments of transformation in his guest's life or ideas. Then he searches for a narrative arc for the whole show, hoping to create movement and depth as the hour progresses.
Clark collects the praise Fabrizio's guests pour on: "He asked some of the best questions I've ever gotten," wrote Judith Shulevitz, author of The Sabbath World.Next Page >
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