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Friday night, a natural gas explosion in Springfield's entertainment district leveled a gentlemen's club, damaged dozens of buildings and sent close to two dozen people to the hospital, including 12 firefighters.
Sunday, less than 48 hours after the blast, officials announced the cause of the explosion.
"We have determined that human error, as opposed to fault of the gas infrastructure, is what the cause of the explosion was," said State Fire Marshal Stephen Coan.
After digging through the rubble and asking plenty of questions, Coan reached the conclusion that an employee from Columbia Gas punctured a gas pipe with a probe as he was working on the initial call to Scores gentlemen's club for an odor of gas.
"At this point, he called the fire department and the gas company to shut off the gas," Coan stated. "The fire department evacuated the area which certainly saved many lives."
As the evacuation continued, it took Columbia Gas 20 to 30 minutes to get a crew to the area to shut off the gas to the building. Officials said the club filled with gas for the explosion during that time.
While there was no loss of life, the Columbia Gas understands its role in this incident. The company's president said at this point he does not know what could have been done differently.
His employee followed protocol and normally would not have struck the pipe.
"You drive the hole to determine if there is any gas outside," said Steve Bryant, Columbia Gas president. "He stepped over two feet and it turned out to be exactly the amount that the service was offset from the valve, which is a very unusual circumstance."
The gas company does have documentation showing where the gas pipes are for each building, but their technicians do not commonly refer to that information.
"In fact, this is interesting, we have been in business for 150 years, and the availability for those drawings to be viewed by a technician on the scene has only been available for six to eight weeks," Bryant stated.
Coan said there were too many possible ignition sources to know what sparked the explosion.
Beginning Sunday afternoon, the Department of Public Utilities will continue the investigation, focusing on Columbia Gas.
Any business or resident needing to make a claim can speak with a Columbia Gas representative at Springfield City Hall on Monday between 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. in room 220.
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Nearly as deep as the Grand Canyon, Desolation Canyon is one of the largest unprotected wilderness areas in the American West. In this Landsat 7 image from 2000, the Green River in Utah flows south across the Tavaputs Plateau (top) before entering the
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Section 614, act Aug. 1, 1956, ch. 809, § 1,70 Stat. 775, related to authorization for construction, operation, and maintenance of Washoe project, which was revoked by Pub. L. 101–618, title II, § 205(c),Nov. 16, 1990, 104 Stat. 3307.
Section 614a, act Aug. 1, 1956, ch. 809, § 2,70 Stat. 775, related to applicability of reclamation laws to duties of Secretary under this subchapter, repayment of construction costs, and contracts for supplemental water supply.
Section 614b, act Aug. 1, 1956, ch. 809, § 3,70 Stat. 776, related to facilities for access, public health and safety, and protection of public property on lands of Washoe project.
Section 614c, act Aug. 1, 1956, ch. 809, § 4,70 Stat. 777, related to facilities for development of fish and wildlife resources on the project area.
Section 614d, acts Aug. 1, 1956, ch. 809, § 5,70 Stat. 777; Aug. 21, 1958, Pub. L. 85–706, 72 Stat. 705, provided an authorization for appropriations for the project.
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A Long Island woman is accused of selling both sex and hot dogs along the side of the road from a cart. I swear to god it's like every time there's a new street meat trend I always find out about it a day too late.
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Woman hate Angelina Jolie because she seems like a jerk and she broke up Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston, and while some won't admit it every man on earth loves her for the same reason. I'm done lying! So the world will love/hate the news that she's in talks to play a small role in the upcoming Ridley Scott film "The Counselor". The film is about a big time lawyer who tries his hand at the drug game with not so sexy results. Have you seen her tattoos? She's probably a lot more fun than Aniston. You can't argue science.
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Ah it's the age of social media. Why even your local killer is taking to the Faceblogs to update his status after he shoots his own mother to death. I assume his next check-in was from jail.
I got 89 bags of weed tied to my dick and a bitch aint one. Wait no, that makes no sense.
Elle Fanning of "Super 8" and general Fanning fame is in talks to star opposite our lord and savior Angelina Jolie in "Maleficent". The film is being created by the good people at Disney and is said to be a live action take on the classic tale of "Sleeping Beauty". I was always envious of her. Cause ya know, sleeping is so great and she must of been really well rested.
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I pray every night that the new show "666 Park Avenue" is going to be like a modern day take on "227" but there's a good chance I'm going to be disappointed. Mercedes Masohn and Robert Buckley have just been added to the cast for the show that focuses on a couple who tend to an apartment building that houses a group of people who have made deals with the devil. I don't see how a Jackée type character could work into that but let's keep hope alive.
It's a slow day and all I can think about is how angry the Hulk would be if he had to work with me. So here's some news about "Prometheus" being released in IMax. You're welcome.
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As if dropping dead isn't bad enough now you going to worry about guys like this sicko in Ohio diddling your corpse in the funeral home? It just never ends does it.
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Irritable bowel syndrome (IBS) is a common gastrointestinal condition. Patients with IBS typically complain of abdominal pain associated with bloating, gaseousness, and alterations in their bowel habit (diarrhea, constipation, alternating diarrhea and constipation, or a sense of incomplete evacuation of stool). IBS is a chronic condition. Symptoms can be continuous or vary over months, years, or even decades. While irritable bowel syndrome is not life-threatening, symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome can have a major impact on a person's quality of life and even can be debilitating. For example, a patient with diarrhea after meals may avoid eating out. Patients who experience bloating and abdominal pain after meals may develop a fear of eating. In its extreme, they may even lose weight. Even flatulence can be socially limiting.
Irritable bowel syndrome has been a frustrating condition for both physicians and patients because it is difficult to diagnose and treat. Irritable bowel syndrome is difficult to diagnose because there is no diagnostic test that is abnormal. The diagnosis is made on the basis of typical symptoms and tests that exclude OTHER diseases that might be causing the symptoms such as ulcers, infections, tissue inflammation, cancers, and obstruction of the intestine. Tests to rule out other conditions include CT scans, barium X-rays, upper gastrointestinal endoscopies, and colonoscopies. Physicians have to rely heavily on their clinical judgment to decide when enough testing has been done and to confidently make a diagnosis of IBS. Physicians are frustrated further by the fact that the treatment for IBS is not helpful in many patients.
There is a striking similarity between the symptoms of IBS and SIBO. It has been theorized that SIBO may be responsible for the symptoms of at least some patients with irritable bowel syndrome. The estimates run as high as 50% of patients with irritable bowel syndrome. Support for the SIBO theory of IBS comes from the observation that many patients with IBS are found to have an abnormal hydrogen breath test, and some patients with irritable bowel syndrome have improvement of their symptoms after treatment with antibiotics, the primary treatment for SIBO. Furthermore, it has been reported that successful treatment of symptoms with antibiotics causes the hydrogen breath test to revert to normal, suggesting that bacteria indeed are causing the symptoms. Although this theory is tantalizing and there is much anecdotal information that supports it, the rigorous scientific studies that are necessary to prove the theory have just begun. Nevertheless, many physicians have already begun to treat patients with IBS for SIBO. The intriguing issue yet to be elucidated is the reason why individuals who appear to have normal small intestines develop SIBO and IBS. The most popular theory is that patients with IBS have a subtle abnormality in the function of their intestinal muscles that allows SIBO to occur. Another theory is that there is an immunologic defect that allows colonic bacteria to live in the small intestine.
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COURTESY PHOTO A mangled 1995 Harley-Davidson rests May 31 against the front bumper of a 2003 Chevrolet Impala on F.M. 1303 near the Wilson County line south of Elmendorf following a wreck that claimed the life of a Floresville man.
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ELMENDORF -- A stretch of F.M. 1303 between Loop 1604 and the Wilson County line remains closed as officials investigate a crash today at approximately 11:45 a.m. that claimed the life of a motorcyclist from the Floresville area. Names of the drivers involved have not been released.
Deputy Steve Wheeler of the Bexar County Sheriff's Office said at the scene that the motorcyclist was riding his 1995 Harley-Davidson motorcycle southbound on F.M. 1303 when a northbound 2003 Chevrolet Impala sedan crossed the centerline. The two collided nearly head on.
Cpl. Javier Reyes of the Texas Department of Public Safety Highway Patrol said the motorcyclist, who was wearing a helmet, was thrown from the bike. He then collided with the Chevrolet's windshield. He died at the scene from internal injuries.
The Wilson County News will provide additional information as it becomes available.
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ashley koenning
June 13, 2011 7:18pm
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Danny was my 1st cousin he was an awesome guy willing to give the shirt off his back to anybody. He always had a smile on his face, he was an awesome team member, a member ...
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Danny was my 1st cousin he was an awesome guy willing to give the shirt off his back to anybody. He always had a smile on his face, he was an awesome team member, a member of the cove boy fishing team just an AWESOME PERSON IN EVERY WHICH WAY. Now he has lost his life because that guy was looking on the floor board for his cell phone or probably even texting we will never know the truth will we only that 22 year old will. I agree with the involutary manslater opnion. R.I.P DANNY LEE KOENNING WE LOVE && MISS YOU. YOU WILL FOREVER BE IN OUR HEARTS<3
Old Biker
La Vernia
June 10, 2011 9:08am
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My condolences to his family and friends.
I didn't know Danny but I agree this is a clear example of INVOLUTARY MANSLAUGHTER(Personal Opinion).
There is no way you can ...
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My condolences to his family and friends.
I didn't know Danny but I agree this is a clear example of INVOLUTARY MANSLAUGHTER(Personal Opinion).
There is no way you can tell me the driver of this car was paying attention, he took another persons life because the odds are he was on has smart cell phone(too bad he wasn't as smart) , texting or searching the internet. DPS should check is cell phone usage at the time of this preventable death.
Casey M.
Wilson County
June 5, 2011 11:39pm
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Ashley - thank you for giving us that information. I will be praying for your family as well as Danny's family.
New Guy - "happened to the wrong person" is ...
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Ashley - thank you for giving us that information. I will be praying for your family as well as Danny's family.
New Guy - "happened to the wrong person" is just a figure of speech. But I will correct you, YES there is a right person this could have happened to - the heartless coward who killed Sgt K. Vann last week would have been the perfect person for this to have happened to.
June 3, 2011 3:26pm
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Danny was a good person. It is really a shame that he served our country to protect us against harms way. And someone else took his life by not paying attention to what he ...
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Danny was a good person. It is really a shame that he served our country to protect us against harms way. And someone else took his life by not paying attention to what he was doing.
Danny my you rest in peace. We will all miss you.
richard martinez
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June 3, 2011 12:37pm
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Danny was a classmate (class of '88) and most importantly a friend to a lot of us. RIP
Rick Martinez
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June 3, 2011 9:15am
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Alfredo Martinez reference your comment "This happend to the wrong person!" who is the right person for this to happen to? That was a sick comment.
June 2, 2011 6:55pm
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My condolences to the family. This is an example of why DPS does not call these incidents "accidents", they are called crashes. Accidents are preventable.
Phil Lunday
San Antonio, TX
June 2, 2011 11:09am
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Danny was a great friend. He was always willing to help anyone who asked. He was an incredible teammate. I'm gonna miss him sharing hunting and fishing stories. Danny is ...
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Danny was a great friend. He was always willing to help anyone who asked. He was an incredible teammate. I'm gonna miss him sharing hunting and fishing stories. Danny is going to be greatly missed. My thoughts and prayers are with his family.
java zoeller
June 1, 2011 9:17pm
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any updates yet?
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Adkins, TX
June 1, 2011 2:58pm
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Involuntary Manslaughter (Personal Opinion)
Godspeed Danny, & Condolences to the family and friends!
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Alfredo Martinez
June 1, 2011 2:35pm
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I also knew Danny. He was easy going guy and always willing help people in need. This happend to the wrong person! I hope that the driver get some kind of punishment. So ...
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I also knew Danny. He was easy going guy and always willing help people in need. This happend to the wrong person! I hope that the driver get some kind of punishment. So if the driver was not on the phone or under the influence of drugs or alcohol. what was he doing to make him to cross over in the other lane and not notice the driver ahead of him. I'll bet they will pay more attention to the road but its to late cuz we lose a good friend. I will pray for Danny and his family.
Alvin Charmaine
June 1, 2011 2:34pm
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horrible accident. prayers for the families
William J. Gibbs Jr.
June 1, 2011 11:29am
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The victim has been identified as 42-year-old Danny Lee Koenning of Floresville. The driver of the Chevrolet Impala was identified only as a 22-year-old male from Floresville, ...
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The victim has been identified as 42-year-old Danny Lee Koenning of Floresville. The driver of the Chevrolet Impala was identified only as a 22-year-old male from Floresville, who was not injured.
LoRay Cox
Elgin, TX
June 1, 2011 9:46am
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Sorry to here the lost of of there Loved one!!! He was a true Friend and a consistent Ball Player..He Loved everything he done. We always sent pictures back n forth of hunting... ...
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Sorry to here the lost of of there Loved one!!! He was a true Friend and a consistent Ball Player..He Loved everything he done. We always sent pictures back n forth of hunting... You truely will be missed. Really Hate to here of another Tragic motorcycle fatality accident, especially of a great friend.. RIP brother, you will be LOVED and NEVER BE FORGOTTEN...LC
Ted Alvarado
June 1, 2011 8:34am
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I worked with the man that passed. he was a good man. i also ride a Motorcycle and there are to many of these accidents happaning. the people that are in the car should be ...
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I worked with the man that passed. he was a good man. i also ride a Motorcycle and there are to many of these accidents happaning. the people that are in the car should be held responsable. he crossed over in to the Motorcyclist lane and killed a man. even if he was sober or not he crossed over so he wasnt paying atention. he should be held responable. I want to say to Dannys family I am very sorry for your lost. Danny RIP
Brian Sarate
June 1, 2011 6:23am
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I would like to say a few things about Danny. He was a fun loving guy. He loved darts, fishing,hunting, and baseball. He wasn't a father but Im sure he would have made a ...
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I would like to say a few things about Danny. He was a fun loving guy. He loved darts, fishing,hunting, and baseball. He wasn't a father but Im sure he would have made a great dad, because he was a very proud uncle. He was in a very close family they did allot together. He served in the Navy. He was just a great friend always happy, never stressed. There are lots of people that are going to miss him. He leaves behind a wife, parents, brother, nephew, extended family, and a countless amount of friends.
June 1, 2011 1:22am
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Does ne1 know the age or info about the deceased? did he leave any family spouse or children behind? I pray for this family in this time. so sad
Cassandra Braddy
May 31, 2011 11:15pm
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Danny was a very caring man. He loved his family and friends with his whole heart. This should have NEVER happend. I don't know what could have been so distracting that ...
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Danny was a very caring man. He loved his family and friends with his whole heart. This should have NEVER happend. I don't know what could have been so distracting that a person could not pay any attention to his driving. Due to this stupid action my family now has to suffer with the loss of a man we all love. I hope this comes as a lesson to everyone to pay attention to what you are doing because no distraction is worth causing a family pain!
Ashley Nolin
May 31, 2011 6:33pm
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The driver in the impala is my husband. He was just cleared by the police. It was just an accident. There wasn't any alcohol or drugs involved. The police searched his phone ...
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The driver in the impala is my husband. He was just cleared by the police. It was just an accident. There wasn't any alcohol or drugs involved. The police searched his phone and records and he wasn't doing either one. It was just a tragic accident. My husband has been cleared and released by the police.
More importantly, my family is grieving for the loss of this man's life. It was such a tragic loss of life.
May 31, 2011 6:23pm
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Another tragic accident involving a motorcycle. That is just too many. Perhaps the driver of the car is at fault. Maybe talking on the cell phone or sending a text. I ...
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Another tragic accident involving a motorcycle. That is just too many. Perhaps the driver of the car is at fault. Maybe talking on the cell phone or sending a text. I hope the details are released as to the cause of the accident.
Ms. S. V.
May 31, 2011 3:46pm
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Another tragedy. Our prayers go out the the families of the victims.
java zoeller
May 31, 2011 3:43pm
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Does anyone know what happened yet? If drugs/alcohol/speed were a factor? What happened to the driver of the sudan?
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We had a very lively discussion yesterday about the BCS and the possibility of going to a four-team or eight-team playoff when the current contract expires after the 2013 regular season. It made me think of some research that I did about a year ago, showing that a four-team playoff would have addressed many of the major controversies that have plagued the BCS since its inception in 1998.
I've updated some stuff, but here are what the national championship semifinals would have been for the past 11 years using the BCS formula.
Here is your homework assignment for today. Based on these semifinals, which team would have emerged as the national champion? And which semifinals do you really like?
Example: In 2008 Florida and Alabama, who played one of the best SEC championship games ever, could have won their semifinals and met again for the BCS title. Does Florida win the rematch?
Just look over this list and give me your winners or any thoughts you have about the semifinals and potential championship games.
Here is one thing to keep in mind. A four-team playoff would address a lot of problems, but not all of them. Look at Georgia n 2007. The Bulldogs would have gotten squeezed out of a four-team playoff despite being ranked No. 4 on Championship Saturday. Now how controversial would that have been?
No. 1 Oklahoma (12-1) vs. No. 4 Alabama (12-1)
No. 2 Florida (12-1) vs. No. 3 Texas (11-1)
Note: A four-team playoff this season would have still left a bunch of teams mad. No. 5 Southern Cal (11-1), whose only loss was on a Thursday night at Oregon State (27-21), believed it was the best team in the country. No. 6 Utah (12-0) and No. 7 Texas Tech (11-1), who beat Texas, could also make a claim. I believe that if the voters in the polls had been picking four teams instead of two, they would have voted Southern Cal ahead of Alabama in the final BCS Standings because the Crimson Tide was coming off a loss. I'm not saying I agree with that, but that is what I believe the voters would have done.
No. 1 Ohio State (11-1) vs. No. 4 Oklahoma (11-2)
No. 2 LSU (11-2) vs. No. 3 Virginia Tech (11-2)
Note: Georgia and its fans would have been fuming. The Bulldogs (10-2) were No. 4 on Championship Saturday but were leapfrogged by conference championship game winners LSU, Virginia Tech, and Oklahoma in the final standings and would have gotten squeezed out of the playoff.
No. 1 Ohio State (12-0) vs. No. 4 LSU (10-2)
No. 2 Florida (12-1) vs. No. 3 Michigan (11-1)
Note: Here is where a four-team playoff addresses a couple of problems. After losing a close game to Ohio State (42-39), Michigan thought it deserved a rematch with the Buckeyes in the BCS championship game. Florida jumped over the idle Wolverines by winning the SEC title. Michigan would have gotten its shot if it could beat Florida in the semifinals.
No. 1 Southern Cal (12-0) vs. No. 2 Ohio State (9-2)
No. 2 Texas (12-0) vs. No. 3 Penn State (10-1)
Note: College football fans might have gotten mad if either Southern Cal or Texas had been upset in the semifinals. They were clearly the best two teams in the country this season and played the best BCS championship game ever (at 41-38 win by Texas in the Rose Bowl.)
No. 1 USC (12-0) vs. No. 4 Texas (10-1)
No. 2 Oklahoma (12-0) vs. No. 3 Auburn (12-0)
Note: Urban Meyer's undefeated Utah (11-0) team, ranked 6th, probably felt like it deserved a shot. Here a four-team playoff would have addressed one of the biggest controversies of the BCS era: An undefeated SEC championship team from Auburn that got left out.
No. 1 Oklahoma (12-1) vs. No. 4 Michigan (10-2)
No. 2 LSU (12-1) vs. No. 3 Southern Cal (11-1)
Note: The four-team playoff would have addressed another major BCS controversy. Southern Cal finished No. 1 in both human polls but finished No. 3 in the final BCS standings. This year made the BCS adjust its formula to give more weight to the human polls.
No. 1 Miami (12-0) vs. No. 4 Southern Cal (10-2)
No. 2 Ohio State (12-0) vs. No. 3 Georgia (12-1)
Note: A four-team playoff would have given a shot to Georgia, whose only loss was to Florida. It would have also given a shot to Southern Cal and Carson Palmer, the Heisman Trophy winner.
No. 1 Miami (12-0) vs. No. 4 Oregon (10-1)
No. 2 Nebraska (11-1) vs. No. 3 Colorado (10-2)
Note: This is a year when the four-team playoff could have saved the BCS a lot of embarrassment. Oregon, the Pac-10 champ, was ranked No. 2 in the human polls but No. 4 in the final BCS standings. Nebraska, which lost its last regular season game to Colorado (62-36) finished No. 2 in the standings and got destroyed by Miami in the BCS championship game in the Rose Bowl.
No. 1 Oklahoma (12-0) vs. No. 4 Washington (10-1)
No. 2 Florida State (11-1) vs. No. 3 Miami (10-1)
Note: Miami was ranked No. 2 in the final human polls and had beaten Florida State (27-24) during the regular season. But when the numbers were crunched, Florida State edged out Miami for the No. 2 spot against Oklahoma in the BCS championship game. A rematch between the Miami and Florida State in the semifinals would have been must-see TV.
No. 1 Florida State (11-0) vs. No. 4 Alabama (10-2)
No. 2 Virginia Tech (11-0) vs. No. 3 Nebraska (11-1)
Note: Nebraska's only loss during the season was to Texas (24-20 in Austin) and the Cornhuskers later avenged that loss by beating the Longhorns in the Big 12 championship game (22-6). Nebraska might have given Michael Vick and company a pretty good game in the semifinals. It would have been interesting to see how Alabama, the SEC champ, would have fared against Chris Weinke and Florida State.
No. 1 Tennessee (12-0) vs. No. 4 Ohio State (10-1)
No. 2 Florida State (10-1) vs. No. 3 Kansas State (11-1)
Note: Four team playoff would have given another life to Kansas State, which lost to Texas A&M (36-33, double overtime) in the Big 12 championship game and got knocked out of the BCS title game. I don't think any of these teams were going to beat Tennessee that season
April 23rd, 2009
8:45 am
I say no… still need to give the conference winners their shot with at least 8 teams.
April 23rd, 2009
8:50 am
I don't think any conference would agree to this without having a clause that stipulates all of the participants need to be conference champions.
April 23rd, 2009
8:54 am
Everybody is stupid except me. I hate everybody.
April 23rd, 2009
8:57 am
1998 – OSU over FSU
1999 – FSU over Nebraska
2000 – FSU over Oklahoma
2001 – Miami over Nebraska
2002 – OSU over Miami
2003 – LSU over Oklahoma
2004 – USC over Oklahoma
2005 – USC over Texas
2006 – OSU over Michigan
2007 – LSU over Oklahoma
2008 – Texas over Oklahoma (or USC over Texas)
April 23rd, 2009
9:07 am
Like the idea of eight teams- 6 conf champs, 2 at large based on BCS. An SEC Champ loser has to be as deserving as a WAC champ. Would have to cut a game off reg season though. Never happen though, extra game makes lots of revenue for schools.
April 23rd, 2009
9:11 am
A 4 team does not solve enough problems and an 8 team takes far to much away from the regular season, makes the season to long, and takes away from the bowls. If the regular is not as important TV ratings and revenue will fall for many of the teams during the regular season. March Madness has killed the basketball regular season.
April 23rd, 2009
9:12 am
To clarify the 8 team playoff takes away from the non BCS bowls which generate alot of money.
April 23rd, 2009
9:35 am
1998 – Tennessee
1999 – Nebraska
2000 – Miami
2001 – Miami
2002 – Georgia
2004 – Auburn
2005 – Texas
2006 – Florida
2007 – BCS: LSU; AP: Georgia
2008 – Florida
April 23rd, 2009
9:36 am
Call em Like I See 'Em…. your 2000 prediction is interesting, because what DID happen was Florida State played Oklahoma (in Miami, no less) and got DESTROYED – they only scored 2 points. I guess having another game against Miami before the championship would have really helped the noles.
April 23rd, 2009
9:37 am
is it just me or does the case become less compelling for a playoff as you move from the beginning of the BCS to the present day? The last compelling year for a playoff in my mind is 2004/Auburn.
I have never understood how everyone talks playoffs without insisting on conference championship games for every league; Big Ten/Pac 10 skate by every year with one less game against teams that have scouted them and know them the best.
Force every team (and every league) to end up as part of a 12 team conference and use those. There would be a lot less controversy with Ohio St losing every year in their conference championship game.
April 23rd, 2009
9:39 am
Gotta disagree with Otto…when the bowl season rolls around, I'm still watching the games 'cause other than them, you got the NFL season winding down and Christmas commercials everywhere. In Jan-March, I'm watching the regular season BBall games, leading up to March madness. The argument that a playoff ruins the regular and/or bowl season is pure hogwash…
April 23rd, 2009
9:50 am
First point of order is that the Big 10 + 1 and the Pac 10 must hold a conference championship game to be considered for the BCS playoff. UGA's not winning their conference should have disqualified them from the national championship in 2007.
Notre Dame could join the Big 10 + 1, giving it 12 members; the Pac 10 could add Utah and Boise State, giving them 12 members – and give Utah and Boise St a chance to play with some big boys each year to see how they match up. Some of the other conferences may have to rearrange some of it's memberships for eligibility.
Now, everyone is competing on a similar platform – granted from year to year conference strengths may rise and fall – but at least each team competing for the national championship is certified conference champion….no quirks in a schedule to allow a team to duck the best teams in the conference.
April 23rd, 2009
9:50 am
Ratings for the games will fall outside of the playoffs just as they have in Basketball.
In 1992, 34 million people watched Michigan and Duke play the NCAA final. In 2004, half that many tuned in to see Connecticut beat Georgia Tech. It was the second atrocious rating in as many years
April 23rd, 2009
9:54 am
If a team has to be a certified conf champ to play in the 8 team playoff what incentive would a SEC champ UGA have to play any star players against GT? What incentive will there be for OOC matchups?
If you think the 2 at large spots will keep the OOC matchups and late season games interesting. IMO the 2 at large spot most years will go to non BCS teams making it very long odds to get one of those 2 spots.
April 23rd, 2009
9:55 am
The problem Tony is exactly what you mentioned with the Georgia example. Yes, a 4 team would be better than now but would still not satisfy everyone, then soon you would have a push for 8 teams and then 18 teams. If you are to decide on a playoff, might as well go ahead and go to an NFL type format and in that case…might as well just become the NFL! It's not a perfect system, but I think using the coaches poll plus the media poll plus strength of schedule is a formula that maintains enough of the integrity of the game while keeping things interesting and keeping us talking about it, like this article.
April 23rd, 2009
9:57 am
OH MY GOD, I CAN"T STOP LAUGHING AT "HUH?"'s 2002 NATIONAL CHAMPION!!! ARE YOU REALLY SO STUPID TO BELIEVE THAT TEAM COULD HAVE BEATEN OHIO STATE OR AN AWESOME MIAMI TEAM? Okay, I'm over it. My take:
2001: Miami
2002-2005: USC (they are always peaking in January)
2008: USC (because of what T-Bone said about the voters)
In the end, SEC fans should be happy with what we have right now, because it keeps USC out of it, and they own our teams – they just can't beat the Pac-10 teams. Just my $0.02, but you UGA fans are insane if you think UGA could have beaten Miami that year — they were loaded and UGA overachieved all year and then beat a terrible FSU team in the bowl game, so they were not near as good as their ranking.
April 23rd, 2009
9:59 am
Matt, when was the last time Ohio St beat a SEC team?
April 23rd, 2009
9:59 am
We need a 16 team playoff. We do need the participants based on idiots like Tony Barnyards opinion. Last year you could won a billion dollars betting on UTAH because everyone of you idiots would have picked alabammer. LET THE GAMES BE DECIDED ON THE FIELD. Get rid of the BCS. A 16 team playoff would be the most exciting sporting event in history. And then we would have a true champion and not a bulllshiite champion like floriduh last year when Utah was much more deserving.
April 23rd, 2009
10:00 am
I fail to see why an 8 team playoff takes away from the regular season. With only 2 at large bids at stake, it seems to reason that BCS Conference teams would want to play at least one STRONG OOC (UGA plays 3 OOC BCS games in 09, 2 on the road, who else does that?) game to bolster their appeal. It also leaves very little in doubt that a team better win its Conference or they are not in. How does that hurt the regular season? One guarantee per Conference is not very much. Win or you have no shot at the BCS MNC. At least a VOTE isn't usually involved. I could have seen last year being an issue, Either Bama/TX or TT would have been left out of an 8 team playoff. But #9 looking in is much better than leaving #3 on the stoop.
April 23rd, 2009
10:07 am
I agree that an 8 team playoff would work best, but the 4 team playoff would have been better than what we did get (especially in 2001 when UGA was 13-1 and left out). If it goes to a 4 team playoff, I believe that an 8 team playoff is not far behind. I'd be willing to take "baby steps" to walk out of the current BCS mess. The only conferences that are in love with the bowl system are the PAC-10 and the Big 10. Let them live in the past and exclude them if necessary. It would be their own decision and then they could cry about how great the Rose Bowl is and that they are the true champions. The only Rose Bowl that has been worth watching lately was the one between USC and Texas! Why don't they see that no one outside of their conferences cares about a PAC-10 vs Big 10 Rose Bowl based soley on tradition? What are they so afraid of? Traditions are good if they have a purpose and this one doesn't. It's time to create new traditions that will crown a true national champion in college football.
April 23rd, 2009
10:07 am
there have been two people ho have said that USC would have won in 2005 over Texas…. they played that game!! Texas won! Why do you morons think it would have been any different if there was one more game before it. Keep up Matt and Call em like I see em
April 23rd, 2009
10:07 am
PT,C one of those 2 at large bids will go to a non BCS teams. The voters will be sure to make it happens. The remaining at large would go to Texas last year or UGA in '07 in rare cases.
It was not long ago that OOC big games were rare in the SEC. UF still does not play them outside of FSU and Miami at times both State rivals. Why? because they do not have to. UGA and Auburn need those games to win tie breakers and get in the BCS hunt. 2004 is a prime example where the OOC schedule hurt them. If you depend on the conf. champs for 6 of the 8, the ADs will play the odds and put everything in a conf championship.
April 23rd, 2009
10:07 am
I think the posts you see here so far…some saying 4 teams is fine, some saying no you need at least 8 and others saying we need 16 to really determine a champion just solidifies my case (previous post).
April 23rd, 2009
10:07 am
We need a 16 team playoff. We DON'T need the participants based on idiots like Tony Barnyards opinion. Last year you could won a billion dollars betting on UTAH because everyone of you idiots would have picked alabammer. LET THE GAMES BE DECIDED ON THE FIELD. Get rid of the BCS. A 16 team playoff would be the most exciting sporting event in history. And then we would have a true champion and not a bulllshiite champion like floriduh last year when Utah was much more deserving.
April 23rd, 2009
10:08 am
and Matt… why do you say that USC owns the SEC teams… when was the last time they beat a legitimate SEC team??
April 23rd, 2009
10:11 am
98- Tenn
00- Miami
01- Colorado (one of the strongest teams I've seen in a long time)
02- OSU- (Yes, I'm a UGA fan and alum-don't think we would have done it)
04-Auburn- I think they had as much weaponry as USC or Texas
07-LSU (I still say UGA could of beaten any team at end of year and woud have won this one.)
08-Florida- Utah deserved more of a shot than Bama but UF still wins it.
April 23rd, 2009
10:12 am
Utah could never have beaten Florida and you know it. They got lucky and caught Bammer by surprise.
April 23rd, 2009
10:14 am
Matt, I would say my opinion is far more credible than yours since you have Tennessee as the 1999 Champion (they won it in 1998 you clueless goob), have USC as the 2005 Champion (lost to Texas on a football field in JANUARY), and are generally a whiny little crybaby that pees his pants anytime someone says anything remotely positive about the Georgia Bulldogs. You're probably a Techie trying to pretend you know something about big boy college football. I'd put my money on that.
April 23rd, 2009
10:14 am
Everyone of you idiots are stupid beyond belief. I can't believe I waste my time here dealing with such stupidity. Everyone is stupid but me.
April 23rd, 2009
10:15 am
Dean— Texas beat USC in 2005 so therefore Texas would have won. Thought you must have forgotten that.
April 23rd, 2009
10:16 am
Anybody know when the last time USC played a SEC team? Would love to see some future OOC games featuring the so-called Trojans against some good SEC teams. Can you imagine??
April 23rd, 2009
10:18 am
they played the mighty Arkansas years back because they wanted to prove they can handle the SEC… they really showed us since everyone else in the SEC beat Arkansas also!
April 23rd, 2009
10:18 am
Tails from the swamp, I agree. Yesterday the 4 team or plus 1 would have won the vote and today more are wanting a 8 team playoff when the 4 team is shot down.
CFB is the most debated and watched than any other sport during their offseason. The system works and creates a sport that more people want to follow and pay big bucks to see. What other sport can pack 40k to 90k for an offseason scrimmage? Everyone is talking about Bama vs. VT a year in advance do you hear near as much in other sports? No because in CFB you have one chance to even begin to control your destiny.
April 23rd, 2009
10:18 am
I don't care what any of you say…just say it with your own handle. Don't be such a coward and try to steal my handle.
April 23rd, 2009
10:19 am
Like you said, people would still cry and moan about being left out. There is no perfect solution. If you go to a 8 team field, teams 9-11 will cry. If you go to a 16 team field, teams 17-19 will be the criers. They should just go back to the 20 polls they had in the 40s and 50s. Then about every team could claim a piece of the national championship pie.
April 23rd, 2009
10:19 am
I love all of these fans speculating now on who would have won (or rather who they would have like to have won). See, now if you you would have had an NFL style playoff, it would be one less thing to talk about!!! Of course you could have gone back to the ole reliable "should've would've could've" that I see on this "Dawg" post frequently.
April 23rd, 2009
10:20 am
8 team playoff, conference champs only. That makes all 8 games in the conference schedule a do or die game, no margin for error. Right now, teams have to be as perfect as possible to be a championship contender and that's what makes the games so nail biting each week, this system keeps that. The non-conference games would carry no weight at all in this system, but right now teams have very little to gain and everything to lose by playing strong nonconference games. The risk-reward factor is off balance. This system restores that risk-reward ratio to a realistic level. Team can now play strong opponents that prepare them for their conference season, without worrying about whether it ruins their championship hopes or not. On the other hand though, it does kinda make for a four game preseason. However, the greatest thing about college football is watching two teams playing for their championship lives each and every week, this system keeps that in tact.
April 23rd, 2009
10:20 am
Yeah, anytime in this scenario that I had a matchup that contained the actual competing teams I went with who actually won the game. Not do to so just shows lack of knowledge and disqulaifies you from commenting on this subject anymore.
April 23rd, 2009
10:22 am
Tony, this might take more work, but what about the alternative plus 2, which I think has more of a chance of happening, at least in the next BCS iteration. That is, BCS bowls have the traditional pre-Bowl Alliance matchups (e.g. PAC-10 v. Big 10 in Rose, Big 12 in Fiesta (or Cotton if it makes it), SEC in Sugar, ACC in Orange, and at-larges as opponents). After the bowl games, a committee (or a new BCS ranking) votes on the top 2 teams to play against each other. This increases the TV ratings of many/all of the BCS games while preserving a chance for a team like Utah or Auburn in years past to make the title game. Baby steps.
April 23rd, 2009
10:23 am
Darn, I can't get 04 and 05 straight. Too many boilermakers those years!
April 23rd, 2009
10:25 am
Didn't Florida beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game? Didn't Texas beat Oklahoma? Why have another game when the championship game should have been Florida and Texas!
April 23rd, 2009
10:26 am
I see now what I did. I called a Penn State upset. I figured that 10-15% of the time there would be an upset. That was one of them.
April 23rd, 2009
10:27 am
A four way playoff is the only way to keep the regular season meaningful. I would rather see the debate about 4 & 5, then 2 & 3.
April 23rd, 2009
10:30 am
One stipulation, they would need to change the NCAA rules to allow the Big Ten and the Pac-10 to have a MANDATORY CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP.
Other than that, it is a good start. I have never known a #5 team worthy of a shot at the National Championship. Maybe there are #3s and 4s who don't deserve it either but I think those things would be worked out in the two game to be played.
April 23rd, 2009
10:31 am
m, what are you so mad about? did you forget the "thank God and Greyhound Gailey is gone" line?
April 23rd, 2009
10:31 am
Mony, what happens when Utah plays say a ACC champ and wins. OU plays someone in the Fiesta wins and UF wins the Sugar? You still have voters who can select the game we had and still leave out Utah or one of the 2 teams that played in very tough fought matchup sitting at home.
April 23rd, 2009
10:33 am
Yes, I *DO* think having an extra game against a top tier oppontent would change the on field results from a few years where teams played close games. USC was a better team than Texas in 2005; they were overconfident and got a few bad breaks. Taking nothing from Texas, I believe if they played again or in a series, USC would win out. It's all hype-pathetical anyway… nothing is changing, and nothing should. A plus one in this format creates a lot of rematches that shouldn't be played.
April 23rd, 2009
10:34 am
Hey Tony, since so many of these fans want a playoff so badly, why don't we just START with a playoff and include EVERY team and forget about the regular games and rivalrys and and all those things that don't really matter. That way you don't have to be worrying about altering schedules or having to modify the system later or somebody being left out.
April 23rd, 2009
10:40 am
Voice of Reason:
"Utah could never have beaten Florida and you know it. They got lucky and caught Bammer by surprise."
HOW, pray tell, did UF catch UA by SURPRISE?!! We were steamrolling every team we played after our loss to Ole Miss and we beat the Tide on a neutral field – without Percy Harvin!
If anyone caught Sabin & Co. by surprise, it was the UTES!
April 23rd, 2009
10:42 am
Sorry Nick, I meant S-A-B-A-N.