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A new report released Wednesday by the state Department of Education shows that charter schools in Georgia trail the performance of traditional public school on the critical AYP measure.
The report will likely tone down the praise being heaped on charter schools in the Legislature, which is considering a constitutional amendment to allow the state to approve charters over the objections of local school boards.
In promoting the amendment to wary colleagues, some lawmakers have contended that charter schools outperform traditional public schools in the state. Not so, according to the in-depth annual review of charter school achievement by DOE.
According to DOE, 70 percent of charter schools made AYP or adequate yearly progress last year. In comparison, 73 percent of traditional public schools made AYP.
In one of the most telling lines, the 2010-2011 DOE report concludes, "The general trend of Georgia charter school performance mirrors the trend of traditional public school performance."
Charter schools have become less successful than traditional schools in meeting federally mandated annual yearly progress targets, a report to the state Department of Education shows.
The report, presented to the state Board of Education Wednesday, also said graduation rates at charter schools are about the same as the state average. The findings are sure be a factor in the high-stakes fight brewing in the Legislature over charter schools, which are public schools that have been granted some freedom from state mandates in exchange for innovation.
Last week the state House of Representatives fell 10 votes short of getting the required two-thirds majority needed to put a constitutional amendment before voters that would give the state more authority to approve charter schools.
Legislators, prodded by determined charter school supporters, are expected to reconsider the bill. A virtually identical bill has been introduced in the state Senate.
Some state school board members, mindful of the political battle being waged at the Capitol, said they were disappointed by the findings in the report, prepared by the charter schools division of the state Department of Education.
"In this current political climate, I'd like to see some information that points out the benefits of charter schools," board member Linda Zechmann said. "I'm not seeing that here, and it's kind of disappointing."
–From Maureen Downey, for the AJC Get Schooled blog
February 16th, 2012
1:19 am
charter schools are the new "sexy" thing in Georgia. I never understood the idea of if you can't do something good, like the current public government school system, why compound the trouble and add on something you're not going to do so well at either.
no child left behind and now we are racing to the top. but folks as a country we still lag behind other countries in various areas. we have clear cut examples of schools doing well around the country, yet we do not duplicate. why?? Dr. Steve Perry is performing miracles by simply raising expectations of his teachers and students. He has accountability for performance and they are flourishing. Let's go Georgia get it together!!!
February 16th, 2012
1:40 am
Like I said before…,
"Let's go Georgia (sic)get it together!!!" is the sentiment we Georgians must demonstrate if we are to drive successful PubEd improvement efforts.
February 16th, 2012
1:45 am
The issues driving charter schools in GA are school climate-related: Parents want their children in safe schools. Parents want their kids in schools in which the adults, not the feral, are in charge.
February 16th, 2012
2:42 am
This part of the article belongs in a frame:
Louis Erste, director of the charter schools division at the state DOE, told board members many applications submitted have been of poor quality.
Simply approving charter schools for the sake of having charter schools is not the answer, Erste said.
"Charter schools are just a tool," he said. "They are not the goal. The goal is a high-quality education."
February 16th, 2012
2:54 am
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3:10 am
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February 16th, 2012
3:38 am
This article is prima facie evidence for the increasing popularity of charter schools. Those who think that the current AYP difference between public and charter schools favors public schools do not understand the most significant mathematical assumption that lends credence to the AYP figures. Nor do they understand the relation between AYP and the most fundamental picture that can be derived from the data used to calculate AYP. That picture is the curve that shows the rate at which learning was acquired relative to what students knew at the time the data about their progress began to be taken.
Among the measurements that AYP data provides is the rate at which a group of students are closing the deficit between what they know and what they are expected to know. Assuming that a person wants to learn something, the rate at which he learns depends on what he already knows and his awareness of what he must learn in order to reach a given learning goal. When a person's knowledge of some subject is substandard to start with, the difference between what he knows and what he should know at some time in the future is greater than than that which a person who starts at standard and is trying to reach the same goal over the same time. Given that the two persons have the same learning ability and are taught to the same standard, one would expect that the person starting at the lower standard should learn at a faster rate than the person starting at the the higher standard.
The inference some people are drawing from this AYP data show that they are the product of substandard education. I think it will be a while before they gather any awareness of the difference between what they know about this data and what they should know about it. For the foreseeable future, their learning curve regarding this data is going to be flat.
February 16th, 2012
4:54 am
The news story nugget read "According to DOE, 70 percent of charter schools made AYP or adequate yearly progress last year. In comparison, 73 percent of traditional public schools made AYP."
So, on the surface it looks like traditional publich charter schools in Georgia outperformed their charter public schools by 3 percent, right?
Not so fast.
We're not comparing what needs to be compared.
What we need to compare is the charter school to the specific traditional public school that the charter school replaced.
Charter schools are most often created to get the kids out of the failing traditional public school.
So let's compare what is really meaningful and what is really intended. Compare the charter school in Grant park with the traditional public school in Grant park that the charter school was meant to replace. Compare it in every way: academics, safety, parent involvement, parent satisfaction, teacher satisfaction, student satisfaction and so on. Compare everything about that charter school in Grant park with the traditional school in Grant park that it was meant to replace. THEN post the outcomes.
THEN see what you will find.
Now THAT would be news.
Good Mother
February 16th, 2012
5:55 am
Finally – the truth. Charters are just another fad foisted on us by politicians who stand to gain financially from helping to develop them (the same way they did from the testing fad.). They are not a cure for anything.
February 16th, 2012
6:04 am
We already knew this. Charter schools serve as an escape from the social ills of public schools for parents who can't afford private. What's more damning is the fact that charters select their students, while public accepts everyone.
February 16th, 2012
6:17 am
The report will likely tone down the praise being heaped on charter schools in the Legislature,
No it won't. Facts don't matter to the people pushing this. Only lobbyists and profits and graft and re-election (it's all related).
February 16th, 2012
6:18 am
"The parents and student advocates in the most depressed communities… in many instances simply do not have the expertise or the professional networks necessary to put together high-quality, compelling applications," Bobb said.
Totally agree.
But in my part of town, parents could put together a network of affluent, highly educated professionals (including a few outstanding lawyers to help navigate the legal thickets) over a single cup at San Francisco Coffee. In a year or two, our new charter school would be the top performer in all APS, not that that's some great accomplishment.
APS had better think about that as it prepares to draw new district lines and ponders the possibility of forcing schools to merge. Errol Davis says he doesn't want to force-merge high- and low-performing schools, but we still have to worry about what our bats***t-crazy BOE and our grandstanding City Council might do to undermine him.
Charter schools need not only spring up in low-SES areas.
For now, we're keeping this option holstered. For now.
February 16th, 2012
6:25 am
From the article: "charter schools…are public schools that have been granted some freedom from state mandates in exchange for innovation."
If the state mandates are the problem, the General Assembly should free all public schools from those mandates, not just a select few.
February 16th, 2012
6:27 am
@Dr. Craig Spinks/Georgians for Educational Excellence: The issues driving charter schools in GA are school climate-related: Parents want their children in safe schools. Parents want their kids in schools in which the adults, not the feral, are in charge.
Great comment. How do we fix school climate and discipline in ALL our schools?
February 16th, 2012
7:17 am
@ ScienceTeacher671
You get a "Lean On Me" type administrator as portrayed
by Morgan Freeman in the movie. The principal sets the
February 16th, 2012
7:20 am
@ScienceTeacher: the great columnist Walter Williams (who also happens to be black) says this, and he's talking about inner-city black kids, but I am going to substitute Dr. Spinks' word "feral." because, of course, no race owns this category:
"Many (feral) students are alien and hostile to the education process. They have parents with little interest in their education. These students not only sabotage the education process, but make schools unsafe as well. These students should not be permitted to destroy the education chances of others. They should be removed or those students who want to learn should be provided with a mechanism to go to another school."
ST, if you told me I had to add to my business some employees–let's say 15%–who were not going to do any work but were going to sit around all day vandalizing my equipment, starting fights and recording those fights on their camera phones, well, that would kill my business stone dead. But we think nothing of saddling public schools with far, far too many feral children.
Until we remove the disruptive students (by all means, let's spend some money to create a safety net for them), no inner-city public school stands a chance. Ultimately, charters will overtake them all, because parents will demand their own mechanism for removing miscreants.
February 16th, 2012
7:31 am
Dr. Craig @ 1:45 wrote "Parents want their kids in schools in which the adults, not the feral, are in charge."
Indeed Sir, indeed.
February 16th, 2012
7:39 am
Thank goodness that we have an unbiased way to compare schools. Everyone loves to bash testing, but when we want to judge the success or failure of an institution, there is no better way that common standards and common assessments. The problem with NCLB is that it has been sold as a way to improve education. The testing only tells us how well the students are learning. Curriculum and Instruction along with student and parent involvement will improve schools. Remove the testing and all we have is people spouting their opinions about whether one school or another is doing well.
February 16th, 2012
7:39 am
@Rick and Dr. Craig Spinks, feral children? Isn't that a bit extreme? Yes, there are extreme behavior problem children out there. Don't get me started on the examples I encountered teaching in Baltimore. But none of these students qualified as feral children.
Alien or foreign might be a better descriptor–they are products of a subculture that our society has deemed unacceptable or undesireable, deviant. Those within their subculture, may or may not view them as thus. Recognizing cultural differences is a step towards bridging any gaps–going both ways since both "mainstream American culture", put in quotes because everyone defines this differently, and this subculture can learn from each other. Read The Outsiders by S.E. Hinton for a perspective on this cyclical element of human culture.
"Ultimately, charters will overtake them all, because parents will demand their own mechanism for removing miscreants."
History seems to suggest that, ultimately, charter schools will be forced to accept those they deem undesirable and charters will be in the same place as public schools that are unable to turn anyone away. The same thing happened when we tried to create schools and districts to avoid desegregation. The same thing happened when public schools tried to keep disabled students out. The same thing happened when universities tried to keep women out.
February 16th, 2012
7:39 am
Not advocating for charter schools, but let's consider the ridiculous measure of both public and charter schools – AYP.
So five minutes ago.
This issue isn't numbers on a test and whose are higher. The issue in the nation is our philosophies of what education means, who deserves it, and who gets the best resources. Consistently, America's definition of success is a test score, only upper middle and upper class people deserve a decent education, and the same group gets the best resources (human and otherwise). There is research and statistics that back up this statement.
We have no desire to educate everyone here in America, and if the country goes ahead and admits that, gets it out in the wide open, we might be able to make some improvements. Talking about public v. charter is like discussing whether a patient's blood is maroon or magenta when they are dying of blood loss: pointless.
February 16th, 2012
8:04 am
70 percent of charter schools made AYP cmpared to 73 percent of traditional public schools. At first blush, this statistic sounds like a good comparison…
but hold on a minute…
charter schools open where traditional public schools fail.
So a correct and accurate picture of charter schools is to compare a charter school with the traditional public school it was meant to get away from.
Compare, for example, the Gran Park charter school with the Grant Park traditional school it was meant to replace. Compare AYP and CRCT scores and also compare safety, parental involvement, student and parent satisfacttion.
Now THAT is a good, honest comparison.
Where traditional public schools succedd (like at Fernbank) there is no clamor for a public charter school.
It is when the traditional public school fails that a charter school opens.
APS is a giant failure iwth a few bright spots. We need charter schools to replace rotten, failing pubic schools and the employees who create them.
February 16th, 2012
8:05 am
Maureen – what you posting failed to inform the readership is that this study was a comprehensive "Charter" school study that lumped all Charter Schools together. What that means is that this study included Charter Schools that were conversion Charter Schools (Non-Startup Charters) and non-Commission Schools. It included Charter Schools that are "System" Charters and Charter Schools and Systems that are officially listed as Charters but DO NOT OPERATE AS CHARTERS IN TERMS OF TEACHING METHODOLOGY AND CURRICULUM. IT INCLUDED MANY CHARTERS THAT ARE LISTED AS CHARTERS SIMPLY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE OR FINANCIAL REASONS BUT STILL TEACH AND OPERATE AS A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL.
I will post more later on the true Demographics of the study that shows Start-Up Charters, Commission Charters – Charters that teach and operate as "real Charters" – DO OUTPERFORM TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
It is no secret you are biased towards a pro-government vs. pro-parental choice educational system, Maureen, but to put this study out there without noting this is truly unprofessional in my mind. You are doing a serious disservice to the readership and "reporting the truth."
February 16th, 2012
8:11 am
In redards to Charter vs Traditional….There is room for both;competition is healthy. But i want to give a ^5 to the head of Atlanta Public Schools Current Leadership for having the brains to flatline management while continuing to support schools. Maybe now people who are not "connected" but talented maybe actually able to serve in the APS school district. If only the City of Atlanta would take a page out of that playbook we may actually get compentency over cronyism.
February 16th, 2012
8:14 am
Sorry "regards"
February 16th, 2012
8:31 am
@Cypher – "Competition is healthy." Huh? Do you honestly feel that this applies to everything everywhere all of the time? I do not. Especially when it comes to my tax money.
I absolutely do not want to hand over my tax money to a parent that can then "chose" to do whatever with it.
I just cannot understand why all of you people (yes, I said it) cannot use your time, energy, and money to improve your local public school. It can work. It has worked. It will work. If your local public school is failing, then it is likely because the community has stopped being involved. Get involved. Do something.
However, you people think that the choice of fleeing is better????
February 16th, 2012
8:31 am
Like, you said "charter schools are the new "sexy" thing in Georgia"
Charter schools are sexy?
i can't believe I just read that comment.
Schools are not sexy. Get your mind out of the gutter.
Charter schools are a popular choice by parents who are fed up by failing public schools.
To describe them as "sexy" says a lot about you, Like I said.
You need a labotomy.
Good day,
Good Ma
February 16th, 2012
8:35 am
Ok…so here are the telling statistics that the media and Maureen so conveniently forgot to highlight….
- More than four-fifths (83%) of FIRST-YEAR charter schools MADE AYP…
- Almost two-thirds (62%) of CHARTER SCHOOLS MADE AYP in school districts that did NOT make AYP…
Of the 148 charter schools with AYP designations (including charter system schools):
• It is most common (62%) for the charter school to make AYP and the school district to not make AYP
• Least common (8%) is for both the school and the district to make AYP
• Neither the school nor the district made AYP in 30% of the cases
Although at the end of the day, the case is not about traditional vs. charter, which one should we have, but rather, the fact that we need strong traditional and charter schools so we can focus on educating the children that fit each respective model best. Towards that end, Charter School options are needed….and where they are needed and called for by parents, they are doing their job and a worthwhile investment of taxpayer's money, especially taxpayers who have school aged children.
February 16th, 2012
8:47 am
Can anyone really define what it means for a school to be failing? Anyone? Test scores? AYP? What is "failing"?
February 16th, 2012
8:57 am
@NAP-Just as we know that all children don't learn the same way, we have to take further to say that they don't learn the same way in all enviroments. What Charters can offer does not take away from what public schools can offer. Personally, I too am a taxpayer and I don't have children, but I care about all children. Frankly, I would like to see more specialized charters that focus on children with exceptionalities, why not let the parents take the lead with students who need more specialized help.
February 16th, 2012
9:02 am
Ms. Downey, I mean no disrespect when I say that you have done this state a major disservice by providing such misleading information and information that has clearly been misinformed and so poorly researched. Even if it was accurate, new schools don't turn miracles overnight. But if you give new innovative approaches to education a fair and equal opportunity to take hold, there is no telling how high our state's academic excellence will go.
I truly hope you will do your homework and issue a retraction, because you conveniently shared only a small part of the story.
Al Meyers
ReinventED Solutions
February 16th, 2012
9:05 am
As usual, Maureen Downey is not presenting complete information. Imagine that. As mentioned, charter schools are just one tool that can be used for education. There is no "magic bullet" program that fixes our ailing public education system. There are some basic keys to the success of any school regardless of the form, private, charter, career academy, home school, etc.
Those items are as follows: consistent and firm discipline, parental support of those teaching their children, a rigorous course of study focused on education that will help any student function in the real world, teachers that know more than just academia and an absence of thought that education is "an end in itself." Last, but not least, leadership that expects that students, teachers and anyone else in the process will perform to their best. If these people don't perform to their best, then there should be an equitable mechanism to remove them from the process.
Education is supposed to be the vehicle to help a person, so they can function in the environment they choose to reside in. It isn't the salvation of people nor is it a constitutional guarantee; it is just a part of preparing the mind for understanding the world around them.
If you apply these concepts, then whatever the structural form of school, you will give students the opportunity to learn.
February 16th, 2012
9:17 am
@JCyper – "Why not let the parents take the lead with students who need more specialized help?"
That is already offered in the current laws and services in public schools. It is called special education.
Again I ask, why re-create the wheel? If the wheel needs fixing, then fix it. But we don't need an additional wheel!
February 16th, 2012
9:21 am
By the way, for those that want to argue that charter schools allow for some focus or some specialized area for students, PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALREADY OFFER THAT!
They are called Theme schools.
I have yet to hear of any real ligitamate reason for a need for whatever you call "Charter" schools. The only reason I know of is so a private company can profit off of my tax dollars.
And that is not acceptable!
February 16th, 2012
9:25 am
@d – I'll give it a shot…
A "failing" school is the perception that a school is not providing proper education to its students. It could also include things such as a school with a very high crime rate or other more ambiguous things.
Some will try to use scores on tests to justify the label of "failing school." So, if a school has a low CRCT average one year, then some will use that to slap the label of "failing school" on it.
No Child Left Behind attempted to define a "failing school" using test scores. But, since NCLB itself is a failure I'm not sure we should buy in to their definition.
February 16th, 2012
9:26 am
The following comments are lifted from my 9:06 am post, on the previous thread:
"Charter schools could, if not handled wisely, do more harm in the long run than benefit, especially if they are seen to be "the answer" to education. If they end up, even inadvertently, dismantling traditional public education, they are not helpful. I think it quite ironic that just when technological advancement has aided us to the point whereby traditional public schools can place student data, of many years standing, on computers for quick analysis by public schools teachers, and just when we are arriving at the point whereby we know the value of training teachers to teach to individual needs of students, that our traditional public schools are being threatened by those with a heavy-handed competition agenda which could break up school systems into isolated charter schools. Many isolated charter schools will not have cohesion with one another in fostering continuity of student growth over many years. Ours is a mobile society. We need that cohesion and continuity among traditional public schools and school systems in Georgia. We should use Race to the Top to better train teachers in how to individualize instruction, and how to use test data to teach creatively and precisely, in a relaxed, collaborative, non-threatening school environment. Thereby, is the combination of the best of the elements of Finland's educational model and our own Race to the Top model that, combined, can help to create educational excellence for America, into our future. We must not change hastily. We must envision what we must be about in public educational delivery, long-ranged."
February 16th, 2012
9:26 am
You ask a good honest question, which is "Again I ask, why re-create the wheel? If the wheel needs fixing, then fix it. But we don't need an additional wheel!"
The answer is that three out of four wheels on the education car are flat, torned to shreds, broken and the driver, the chaffeur and the mechanice can't fix those broken wheels.
The kids in those education cars still need to get where they are going and they can't if three out of four wheels are broken.
So when a new car comes along with wheels that roll and a driver who knows where the kids need to go and a mechanic that can and does fix other things that break….
which car do you think I want my kids to go on?
Good Ma
February 16th, 2012
9:28 am
Contrary to @Report NOT Showing True Results, the report probably understates how poorly charter schools as a group are actually performing. Because attendance at a charter school must be chosen by a parent, the student body of every charter is made up exclusively of children of more involved parents. These are, of course, the students who as a group will perform at a higher level than their peers regardless of the quality of the school. Even if they were not providing any better instruction at all, charter schools ("havens for the motivated" as Diane Ravitch calls them) should be absolutely blowing away the regular public schools in terms of AYP and student achievement data. That they are not even doing as well as Georgia's regular public schools on these measurements suggests that charter schools as a whole are failing to provide any net benefit to the overall educational system, while siphoning off an ever-increasing percentage of the public funding available to educate Georgia's children.
February 16th, 2012
9:29 am
I thought we just agreed AS A STATE that AYP was not an accurate measure of school success anyway? Did we not just receive a NCLB waiver from Obama due to the insistence of our state that AYP was not fair or accurate? But IN THIS CASE it IS an accurate way to show public schools (charters) are not successful? I don't think we can have it both ways y'all.
February 16th, 2012
9:38 am
@Brandy: in each of the cases you mention:
"The same thing happened when we tried to create schools and districts to avoid desegregation. The same thing happened when public schools tried to keep disabled students out. The same thing happened when universities tried to keep women out."
–the excluded class had a legitimate moral and socio-economic argument for inclusion.
In the case of feral children, however, the "right" of the disruptive children to occupy a public school runs up against the right of hard-working students to be safe and free from disruption.
There is, therefore, a compelling moral and economic argument for helping these feral kids some other way, while EXCLUDING them from the public schools.
As to your last point, any charter school forced to warehouse feral children the way inner-city US schools do now will fail just as surely as those schools have failed. Charter-starter parent groups will never allow it; they'll simply close their charter school's doors and go private or homeschool.
February 16th, 2012
9:56 am
[...] of the bill claim that charters outperform their public counterparts. On the AJC's "Get Schooled" blog today, Maureen Downey has reported that in an in-depth study of charter school [...]
February 16th, 2012
10:11 am
I have reservations about the Charter School movement but I must say that the level of discussion on this topic is far above what is normal on this blog. I've learned some things. Thanks, folks!
February 16th, 2012
10:14 am
Having done public (1 year), private (5 years) and a charter school (3 weeks), I am not surprised by this finding. It will be interesting to see the test scores for the charter school we briefly attended (Cherokee Co.). My prediction is that they will not perform quite to their great hype and promise, and I venture to guess, worse than the Cherokee County school district's schools. I would also bet good money that the results of any tests will not be published until the absolute latest allowable time.
Safety? Security? Parental involvement? That apparently came after we (and several friends) left our charter experiment this past fall. Plus many inexperienced and poorly trained teachers were hired. Apparently several have since been fired, including the teacher that my younger child had to endure. Charter schools are NOT, in my humble opinion, the educational panacea on which so many Georgians hang so much hope.
February 16th, 2012
10:16 am
This question is for Maureen but to all who read here. Maureen you say "charter schools were supposed to be learning labs in communities with failing schools, but the movement has quickly gone suburban and upper middle-class"
So what?
So what if suburban and middle class families want a charter school? Why is that wrong?
Those families (and I am not one of them) who live in suburbs and have middle class incomes pay taxes and they have children who need to be educated and if those families want a charter school insteead of a traditional public school, then they should be allowed that choice.
Obviously, if the traditional public school was filling the needs of these families, then those families would elect to stay at the traditional public school.
In addition to low test scores there are other reasons suburban middle class families (both black and white and yellow and brown) want to attend a charter school.
Here are a few:
safety concerns
a de-emphasis on sports-obsessed community schools like Tucker High School.
an emphasis on a particular academic pursuit such as science.
a smaller school, just fewer numbers.
My neighbor is a good example of a charter school fan. She sends her oldest daughter to a traditional high school. She is satisfied with that choice for her daughter. Her youngest daughter has a much harder time in a large school. My neighbor chose to send her youngest daughter to a public charter school where she thrives.
So where is the beef? Same family. same tax dollars. different choices for children, who are different and need different things.
All this railing about charter schools has one significant ring to it — losss of power.
The traditional public schools will and are experiencing a loss of money and with it, power.
Crooked boards don't or won't have as big a pot to rob. Bad teachers will more likely get pink slips.
Competition is good for the public school system.
If parents want to spend THEIR tax dollars on a charter school, then they should be allowed to do it. It's THEIR money. THEY earned it.
Why should all of us be forced to go into an institution when we can create our own school where parents and kids feel better about themselves and the education they are receiving?
Name one valid reason why charter schools should not exist.
Good Ma
February 16th, 2012
10:19 am
Study after study and report after report continue to state that charter schools perform no better than traditional schools, yet time and time again excuses are made to dismiss these results. Look at the research and the reports. Charters do not perform any better than the traditional schools. The lagest most comprehensive study from Stanford, a leading university, shows this information. Some say the study was two short and not relevant, that is untrue. It was a 4 year comprehensive study that ended in 2008 and conducted by a prestegious university. It is true that research studys need to continue and they are. Be patient and watch. New studies are most likely going to show the same if not worse results as new schools open and many of these schools will be run by "for profit" groups who don't care about student performance and istead will focus on a bottom line.
Get the legislature, both federal and state, out of local politics and allow teachers to continue the good work that most do daily. Take the bureaucracy out of education and let teachers decide how to teach.
February 16th, 2012
10:22 am
Most start-up charters do not have all the sub-groups that traditional schools have, and the reason most traditional schools who do not make AYP is because of these sub groups. If traditional schools can make higher when they have to include special ed, race, income, English as a second language, etc, etc. and charters have none to include, then without these sub-groups, traditional schools would have much, much higher scores than "no sub-group" charters.
February 16th, 2012
10:25 am
I think it is time Maureen highlighted an author on this blog — a parent, a paernt who sent their child to a traditional public school and then went to a charter school.
Why did they leave the traditional public school?
What is different at the charter school?
How about several of these families highlighted on Get Schooled?
We have a lot of guest authors on this blog but not many parents. We really need to hear from them and a charter school teacher too.
Good Ma


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[edit] Falkreath
In the graveyard outside of the Hall of the Dead in Falkreath, you will find the grieving parents of a recently slain child being consoled by Runil. Mathies, the father of the child, tells you that a laborer working for him on Corpselight Farm named Sinding was the murderer and is currently locked up in Falkreath Jail.
Go to the jail and find Sinding's cell. He will approach the bars and speak with you, revealing that he is a werewolf. He explains that he stole the Ring of Hircine in an attempt to control his transformations, but that Hircine cursed the ring, which now causes the wearer to lose control of his or her transformations.
Sinding will eventually ask you to help him kill a White Stag in order to regain Hircine's favor and remove the curse from the ring. Agree to help him and he will give you the Cursed Ring of Hircine, which will automatically be equipped on your character for the duration of the quest. Sinding will then transform into a werewolf and escape through the top of his cell.
If you are a lycanthrope, the ring will randomly cause you to transform into your beast form, which may cause a significant bounty if triggered at the wrong time. If you are not infected, the ring's only effect will be to take up your finger slot.
[edit] Hunting the White Stag
The White Stag can be found south of Pinewatch in an unmarked clearing. Kill the stag to cause the ghostly Aspect of Hircine to appear. Hircine will tell you to hunt down Sinding in Bloated Man's Grotto and tear the skin from his body. He will also tell you to hurry, as you are not the only hunter vying for his favor.
[edit] Bloated Man's Grotto
Upon entering Bloated Man's Grotto, you will see a small camp containing the bodies of several hunters. Speak to the mortally wounded J'Kier, who will tell you that his group of hunters was killed fighting Sinding. Go further into the cave to find Sinding, who will ask for your assistance in fighting off the remaining hunters. You must choose whether to help Sinding or kill him.
[edit] Hircine's Will
If you choose to fight Sinding, he will run from the cliff towards the entrance, where there are several hunters waiting for him. None of them are a match for him, and by the time you catch up to him he will most likely have killed several of them. Kill Sinding and activate his corpse to tear his skin off as Hircine requested. Hircine will appear as a ghostly manifestation of Sinding to reclaim the ring, and will give you the Savior's Hide as a reward.
[edit] Helping Sinding
If you choose to assist Sinding, a new group of hunters will attack you. After defeating them, continue deeper into the Grotto and help Sinding kill the weaker hunters. Once all of the hunters are dead, talk to Sinding, who will thank you for your help. When you exit the cave, speak to the Aspect of Hircine, who will remove the curse from the ring and allow you to keep it as a reward for winning the hunt.
[edit] Multiple Rewards
It is entirely possible to obtain both the Ring of Hircine as well as the Savior's Hide. In order to do so:
- Talk to Sinding and tell him you will spare his life.
- Help Sinding eliminate the remaining hunters. Make sure to save your game at this point!
- Tell Sinding that the Hunters are dead, exit the cave and the Aspect of Hircine will appear again, granting you the Ring of Hircine.
- Go back into the cave, give both rings to your follower/place in chest, kill Sinding, take his hide and receive the Savior's Hide from Hircine.
It has been reported that the above does not work in all cases. If you find yourself unable to skin Sinding after murdering him, reload the save from after killing the other hunters, then proceed to:
- Tell Sinding that the Hunters are dead
- Kill Sinding, take his hide and receive the Savior's Hide from Hircine.
- Exit the cave and the Aspect of Hircine will appear again, granting you the Ring of Hircine.
[edit] Both rings
It is possible to get the Savior's Hide and both Rings of Hircine, but you must have transformed to be able to do this, as you cannot unequip the ring otherwise.
- Opt to kill the hunters rather than Sinding at the start of the quest.
- Talk to Sinding and place the Cursed Ring of Hircine in a chest in Bloated Man's Grotto or give it to a follower.
- Exit the Grotto, and receive the ring from the Aspect of Hircine.
- Go back, kill Sinding and take the skin from his body to receive the Savior's Hide.
- Retrieve your Cursed Ring of Hircine from the chest or follower.
[edit] Alternate procedure
- Help Sinding and kill the hunters.
- Place cursed ring in chest.
- Go outside. Hircine will talk to you. Don't talk back. Exit the conversation and go back to the cave.
- Kill Sinding, skin, talk to Hircine (the one inside the Grotto) and get Savior's Hide.
- Place Savior's Hide in chest.
- Go outside. The other Hircine will still be there. Talk to him and get the good ring.
- Go back to the chest inside and get the cursed ring and Savior's Hide.
[edit] Notes
- If you acquire the Ring of Hircine and the Savior's Hide, both will count towards the Oblivion Walker achievement, allowing you to earn the achievement without completing one of the "required" Daedric quests. However, the "Daedric Quests Completed" statistic (in the General Stats section of your log) is only incremented once.
- It is possible to find Sinding wandering Skyrim if you should choose to let him live. He will not attack you, but cannot be interacted with in any way.
- After completing the quest and leaving the Grotto, the dead hunters will disappear, along with the loot that is on them. If you need to make more than one trip, make sure to loot everyone before leaving and place the items inside the chest.
- If you exit the dialogue with Sinding after meeting him in the Grotto, or allow it to time out, it counts as having chosen to kill Sinding.
- Be very careful if you choose to help Sinding kill the hunters, as accidentally striking Sinding three times will cause him to turn against you.
- All the hunters encountered in Bloated Man's Grotto have unique names: J'Kier, Batum gra-Bar, Ma'tasarr, Hoddreid, Rissing, Tsrasuna, Torkild the Fearsome, Yar gro-Gatuk, Eriana, Heratar, Ra'kheran, and Ahjisi.
- This quest will completely alter Bloated Man's Grotto, but it will reset to its non-quest form one in-game month after the death of Sinding if you don't enter it during that time. It's recommended to visit Bloated Man's Grotto before doing this quest if you want to loot Bolar's Oathblade without killing Sinding.
- It is possible for Sinding to not be in Bloated Man's Grotto when you first arrive. The likelihood is that you have beaten him to it and he is taking the long way around, via Riverwood and the south of Whiterun. He will eventually arrive at the grotto.[verification needed — see talk page]
[edit] Bugs
- When the Cursed Ring of Hircine equips itself, it will not unequip any ring you are currently wearing, allowing you to wear two rings at once.
- It is possible for the White Stag to relocate to a location outside of the playable world, making it impossible for you to reach him and progress the quest.
- Use the console command
tclto disable collision, enabling you to float towards the White Stag to kill it. Upon returning to a valid location use the same command to enable collision and resume normal gameplay.
- Use the console command
- When leaving the jail after accepting the quest, if you don't wait for Sinding to transform and escape, he may remain there even after he is supposed to be making his way to the Grotto.
- It may be possible to complete the quest normally by moving him outside of the cell using
moveto playerconsole command and then exiting the barracks immediately.
- It may be possible to complete the quest normally by moving him outside of the cell using
- Casting non-offensive spells at Sinding (including healing spells) counts as striking him, therefore healing him three times will turn him hostile towards you.
- Sinding may not come to the bars when you enter the jail, making it impossible to talk to him.
- Leaving and entering the jail a second time usually fixes this.
- If you manage to get both rewards from the quest by killing both Sinding and the hunters, Sinding may appear dead as a werewolf behind bars in the Falkreath Jail, or alive traveling the roads, or possibly back in Bloated Man's Grotto.
- If you change to beast form and then return to normal, you will be able to remove the Cursed Ring of Hircine (since transforming to a werewolf removes all items you are wearing). If you have installed Dawnguard, transforming into a Vampire Lord accomplishes the same thing.
- If you are riding a horse when the cursed ring transforms you into a werewolf, the camera will stay focused on the horse, even though you are not on it. You will need to wait to turn back into your regular form, then mount the horse and dismount it to get back to a normal camera view. This will also remove the ring.
- In Bloated Man's Grotto it may be possible to begin another conversation with the Aspect of Hircine after his dialogue has finished, while he is in the process of vanishing. This will leave you stuck in conversation, unable to exit it. ?
- When Sinding attempts to escape after giving you the ring, it's possible he will fail, leaving him standing in the cell. The guards will tell you he escaped, and the hunters at Bloated Man's Grotto will still die, but returning to the jail will find Sinding still in his cage. If you then kill him in his cell, there may be two of him, one with and one without the essential flag. If this occurs, this will make the quest impossible to complete as the one you are supposed to kill will be the one with the essential flag.
- Sinding (as a werewolf) may be found back at the Falkreath Barracks, and killing him there and taking his skin will still trigger the appearance of the Aspect of Hircine, allowing you to gain the Savior's Hide long after the quest in question has been completed.
- After completing the quest by letting Sinding live, there may be two copies of him in the cave, both in werewolf form.
- When first encountering Sinding in Bloated Man's Grotto he may not engage you in conversation, but instead proceed to attack the hunters. However, he will be unable to properly engage them in combat and they will not be hostile to you either. You can attack and kill them, but you can't engage Sinding in conversation, making it impossible to complete the quest. ?
- Exit from the grotto and reenter; now the conversation should be unlocked.
- If you attack Sinding in beast form, he may not become hostile and the option to skin his corpse may not present itself.
[edit] Quest Stages
- The following empty quest stages were omitted from the table: 0, 200, 210.

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Ex-cons oppions about rehabilitation vs just doing time. Working our way back into society and accepting society is slow.
I'm an ex con, did a lot of jail time in NY and know from the inside what it's like to carry the "brand" around the rest of my life. Know the problems of doing time and what it's like to try to live with the stigma of my past life, for the rest of my days. I know the daily adversity of the "system" even after one has paid his price of jail time, there is an ongoing price that will be paid the rest of my life. It's been over 30 years and I still, to this day pay.
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Mar 7 2013: Welcome to TED Frank!
I've read all of your posts in this discussion, suggest that there is a group of people, right here on TED who will listen, and you have to start somewhere....right? How about here and now....you've already started by opening this discussion:>)
Was there ANYTHING in the system that did work? What motivated you to change directions? Have you thought about speaking to high school students, or kids at risk? Have you thought about mentoring? There are restorative justice systems in place in some areas...have you thought about participating, as a guide, in that process? I was involved with some of those programs in this state and THEY DO work. We had an ex-con on our board, and he was GREAT!
I volunteered with the dept. of corrections for 6 years, and managed to change a few things within the system (like getting the top 4 administrators in one facility relieved of their positions, which they were misusing), so I have some idea about the pitfalls within the systems.
Frank BoothMar 7 2013: WOW.. Colleen I'm impressed. A person who has actually done something to make things happen. Kudos on getting thoose administrators fired. That had to be one wild ride. I Thank You for the many you helped through that.
In responce to you thoughts about doing some things such as speaking at jails, I've done that back in NY and to be perfectly honest, speaking to prisoners helps but, looking at things at my age now, and looking at things 30 years ago is very differant.
I have a gut feeling that I should try to focus on a more solution based effort within the systems that have failed over and over. Oh, I'm not saying that some things haven't worked, such as me getting a limited education, even though education isn't really something the crimminal system supports, they do it because the law says they have to.
I retired recently and moved to Florida, and little did I know how restricting and fearful this state is. I tryed to join a neiborhood watch program and they ran a background check and although I haven't been in trouble in over 30 years, they held that against me and denied me. I also tryed to get into the prison system to speak and became totally dismayed when I found out how long it would take and the amount of paperwork I had to fill out, only to be told that even after I had done the paperwork, I would probubly be denied anyway, because of my felony convictions. After the neiborhood watch exsperiance, I guess I'm just tired of being denied.
As my thoughts unfold on these issues, I realize that if society really wants to solve it's problems in the areas we speak of, it would have to be a broad 3 fold effort, the educational system, the legal system, and the prison system, working together to understand and address the "real" problems we have. Until that is done, we're just putting a band aid on a society that's losing huge numbers of human beings. Just look at the numbers.
Thank you for letting me rant. Frank
Mar 9 2013: Frank,
You're having some good exchanges here.....I'm trying NOT to say it.....but.....I told you so!!! LOL
We can ALL contribute to making things happen. One thing it takes is patience and persistance.
Of course looking at things now and 30 years ago is very different....it is different for all of us. That could be a valuable part of your message, don't you think? You've said that even though you've changed in the last 30 years, the stigma is still with you right? That's something that younger people need to know.....don't you think?
One thing I learned, when co-facilitating "cognitive self change" sessions with offenders, is that they often did not think about, or feel anything at the moment of the crime. One of the first questions I asked at the beginning of a session is..."what were you thinking? What were you feeling?" The answer was usually "nothing". They were apparently acting/reacting based on a knee jerk reaction, with behaviors they had often learned in their home and community environment.
I observed that the system does NOT support education or rehab programs. Especially now, that many facilities are privatized. What's the incentive to education and rehab? We KNOW that most of those in jail/prison/correctional facilities are repeat offenders. What happens to the for-profit privatized facilities if they encourage and support education/rehab? It cuts down on their business. As you say, there are state and federal laws....however.....I observed that they were not effectively in place in the facilities.
You say "if society really wants to solve it's problems in the areas we speak of, it would have to be a broad 3 fold effort...working together to understand and address the...problems". Yes....I agree. The challenge, is that most of society doesn't understand what the problems are. As far as most people in society are concerned, there are laws which provide education/rehab.....so what's the problem,? Frank, you are an important part of society.
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Team Jestion – 10 days of Spain for one video!29 Apr
Team Jestion has been on the forefront of pushing Freerunning films to the next level and impressed us with their new edit "No Spain No Gain". We had the chance to chat with the man behind the camera, Ricardo Chemello, who gave us some interesting insight on spain and traveling.
Hey Ricardo! First Storm went to Spain and now Team Jestion! What's so amazing about it for Freerunners?
Spain is such a beautiful country! The culture and the colors their cities have are something really wonderful. Throughout out trips from Valencia to Granada and down south to Malaga we realized how perfect they are for Freerunning and for their Nightlife.
Many wonder how Freerunners manage to travel and how they pay for it and I feel like it's a lot easier than they think it is. How do you guys manage to be on the road so much?
Nice question Jason. Traveling is one of the best and most beautiful things in the world and to do it a lot you have to be serious and professional about it. Before every departure we analyze all the costs we might have. Starting with the obvious flights, hotel, rentals all the way down to our alcohol so we know exactly what budget we need. A car is really important to us as well, to be independent.
After our Morocco video we got a lot of interest and after doing our Spain-Video on our own dime it looks like we have some sponsors supporting us. This means a bigger budget which we'll use to go to more astounding places, which no Freerunners has ever touched.
So yeah, if anybody wants to know the numbers, this whole trip cost us 2000€ and we spent 10 days all around Spain!
That one spot looked crazy! Where is it and did you have any problems with the authorities while Freerunning?
Yes, it's called Alahmbra and is in Granada, it's one of the best cities we've ever been to! After finding Alahmbra on Google we decided to go there without realizing that it's one of the most important historical places in spain.
You have no idea how difficult it was to shoot in there! It took us 2 hours to film 4 runs, which most of the time we just had to sit still and wait for the securities to pass through. And if there wasn't any securities you'd have tourists and kids, which gather around if you just do a single trick. So yes, it was really hard and we had to be cautious not to draw any attention towards ourselves, mostly pretending we are just some landscape photographers.
I heard the Jambo is happening again this year, are you guys gonna be around for that?
– Yes man, the Jambo will be even more amazing this year. We are uniting the Krap Invaders Jam and the Jambo competition into one action-packed three day event. It's going to be hectic and I'm excited to be part of it as the head of the video production. Also I'm very excited to hear that the whole Farang Team is going to be in Italy for it!
Ricardo, thank you so much for your interview and I can't say how excited we are to see more from you guys and to meet up at the Jambo!
For more info on the Jambo click here!
Impossible Parkour – Stopmotion14 Apr
SUNSETS and STRIDES10 Apr
As they state themselves the Nomads is a team of those who were there and as it happens some european Badboys were around for their most recent journey!
Watch Bartje van der Linden and Kevin Fluri as they tear up Los Angeles and Seattles with USA's Andrew Obenreder and more!
Tags: Andrew Obenreder, Bartje van der Linden, Kevin Fluri, Los Angeles, Nomads, Seattle
Storm Freerun – Barcelona9 Apr
Storm Freerun just released an epic Barcelona edit showcasing the broad talent of their team once again. Enjoy the edit and scroll down for a few questions we asked the filmmaker Giles from Visive Productions.
1.Why did you guys decide to hit up Barcelona?
To my knowledge Barcelona was mainly Tim's call but I think once he had come up with the idea, everyone was pretty set on it! We had all seen the Born To Trace videos that are filmed there which gave us a good taste for the place and I knew a lot of skaters travel there to shoot so I was keen to check it out! Its an amazing city with some really varied architecture which made it really interesting to film around.
2. How long did it take you to shoot the video and did you know any locations before you went there?
3. We loved seeing the whole Team back together in one video, is there more content to come?
To be honest I don't know! I mean its not like the team was dragged back together just for the video, they have always been a team! Its just I'm not sure what the plans are in terms of creating another big project like that. I hope so! The entire thing was funded through Storm Clothing so I guess if more people keep supporting Storm, the quicker we can be creating new videos like this one!
How to make Freerunning Money – Part 25 Mar
If you have missed Part 1 of how to make that Freerunning cake you can go back to it here.
In Part 2 we will continue speaking about the different Archetypes of work within the world of Freerunning. Let's get started!
The Stuntman
Considering the diversity of skill you have as a Freerunner you can use that as a basis for stunt-career.
Working on big film-sets, being constantly challenged and seeing your work on the big screen are enticing and highly rewarding.
I myself have NO experience in Stunts at all, but I've listened to countless fascinating stories from the biggest name in Freerunning Stunts and straight out of Hollywood: Team Tempest. So I believe I can give you a quick introduction, from where you have to venture on by yourself.
Firstly, if you want to make a living as a Stuntman you won't be going very far if all you do is Freerunning. You probably want to practice falling, fighting and possibly driving. Freerunning is a great talent to make you stand out between other contestants, but the well-rounded Stuntman gets hired more.
Secondly, it is very important that you are easy to work with and make people around you feel like you know what you are doing (even if sometimes you don't) and keep it safe! If you enjoy being reckless or taking risks you might want to call Jackass instead.
Another thing you want to consider is your location, find out where movies get shoot and how the Stunt-Industry around them works. If you end up moving out to Holly- or Bolly-, Shaun- or whatever Wood they shoot movies in now, be aware how many people are chasing this dream and how hard you will have to work to even get a chance.
And since my expertise especially on where a stunt-career can lead in older age you will have to go and research more by yourself. If that seems to hard you can forget about being a Stuntman already.
The Athlete
Being The Athlete is probably the most sought after and the hardest position to achieve.
Why is it sought after? Because you get to spend as much time as you want Freerunning, being a good Freerunner is your number one responsibility and that's all you need to care about.
Your sponsors take care about sending you to events and you get paid to represent a brand that you like. At the same time the path leading to this position is very unclear and even a person who made it there can't replicate the same journey for somebody else.
Why is that? Because being sponsored is not about doing the craziest trick or the highest jump, it's about being different, most of all it is about being YOU. Most people have trouble finding themselves all their life and it's unique to everybody, so good luck! It will satisfy you beyond Freerunning!
Once you find who you are it's all about making good content and putting your name out there, for people to find and share.
Make yourself recognizable and be consistent in what you do! Do what you do best for long enough and chances are somebody out there likes it and wants to support you.
I highly recommened getting on the social media grind to carry your awesomeness into the world. Another option to showcase who you are is by participating in one of many competitions happening all around the world.
For more information, please head to this article we published earlier: Why should I be sponsored?
The Creative/ The Entrepeneur
The Creative is mostly part of a likeminded collective or a Team. I'm looking at Storm, Storror and the website you are on now. The creative is somebody that loves having an idea and making it a reality, wether that is a video, a design or a blogpost. He might consider himself an artist beyond the Art of Movement and if he believes in making money off his art he will do himself better listening to Warhol, who famously said: "Making money is art and working is art and good business is the best art."
You don't need to be the best Freerunner in order to succeed as an Entrepeneur. The most important skill to being a successful is DOING things. Not just having an idea but using your means to create and pulling together like-minded people that believe in the same vision.
Look around and you and try to see what's missing in the world of Freerunning, what you could add to it or how to make it better. Wether that is clothing, a video-concept, Jesse LaFlair's Tutorials, an app like PK Spotter or a Couchsurfing website for Freerunners. If you are making a person's life better or easier most of the time they will be happy to pay you in exchange.
Final Thoughts
If you look back at the archetypes you will quickly realize how most of the jobs require less Freerunning than you originally think they would. For most of them Freerunning-experience serves as a stepping stone or provides the knowledge on how to create an event or coach a student. It enables them to stay within the Freerunning world and being close to what they love.
In the future I would love to see more Athletes, being sponsored to progress, to shoot videos and visit events to inspire others. The biggest part in making this possible are all the creative people building their own brands, gyms and companies. I believe that a business built and supported by Freerunners is in the best position to give back, to support athletes and will not fail to do so.
While we are all growing and Freerunning is just making it's first baby-steps I am excited to see what the future has in store for us. There are already new ways of contributing to this society on the horizon and I will try and give a prognosis in Part 3:
Part 3 – Up-and-Coming Jobs (Coming Soon)
UniverCidade3 Mar
The largest university of Portugal sent LineTeam to 18 different institutes and gave them full access to freerun all over them.
If you know the skill LineTeam posesses and how good universities tend to be for Freerunning you are probably still unprepared for the tricks in this video, with our favorite moment being Sérgio's Double-Kong at 4:10.
How to make Freerunning Money1 Mar
All around the world there are incredibly talented and passionate Freerunners of which most have to take time away from their passion to get a job.
A job! Wow that sounds scary! Well no, a job is not a bad thing, there are great ones out there, but wouldn't it be great to make Freerunning your job? Freerunner, doesn't sound like a job at all!
Did you ever catch yourself thinking about that? Then this is the right article for you.
I was in your position a few years ago and through luck, being smart and dedicated – that's what I like to tell myself – I managed to live as a Freerunner, make money, travel the world several times, be sponsored by RedBull, make a 7mil-viral video, design for our own clothing label, produce several videos with my team, win a few big competitions, make this blog and keep doing what I love.
Some people might not want me to write openly about this topic or give away this information, but I realize how many people want to chase this dream and I believe there should be guidance available to them! Some of the jobs in here don't even require Freerunning, but simply keep you in this world of Freerunners. Some of them I don't like doing or don't do anymore. But for this article I want to step away from what's real and what's not and simply show the possibilities there are.
My name is Jason Paul, I'm 23 years old and you could call me successful or a sellout, but hey here I am after making and losing money in almost all spheres of Freerunning and I want to pass on some knowledge, for which I had to work hard for, so let's go!
What are you getting yourself into?
First things first, this is a write-up of my opinion, based on my experiences. None of this knowledge is 100% accurate or the ultimate truth, there is a big chance of me being wrong, for the world we live in to change or simply failure. So don't get mad at me when shit doesn't work out!
Be aware, if you want regular money, a safe and steady income. If you want to save up for a house, provide for a family, drive a fancy car and so on. I suggest you doing something else, not saying you can't do that but there are a million safer and easier ways to do that!
The Freerunning world can change every second, it could blow up or die out. Company's could decide that it's not cool for their products anymore, the state could apply a new law against it, Youtube can change it's guidelines, Justin Bieber decides to start Freerunning. There are a million things that could happen. If that makes you nervous this is not for you!
If you want to live as a Freerunner or in any Freelance job you need to have trust that everything is going to work out in the end, you have to stay calm in times of great uncertainty and you have to be willing to make decisions and take risks.
And if you think that being a Pro-Freerunner requires you to only do Freerunning you are mistaken. You will have to work, do stuff you don't like, sit at a desk, buy expensive starbucks-coffee, all that job-stuff. Which means, maybe you will be more happy to just keep Freerunning as a hobby.
The Archetypes
Alright, if you are still here we can get serious! There are many different avenues to chase down and sometimes you have to do several at the same time! Some involve more Freerunning, some less. I categorize them in seven different Archetypes
Part 1 is about The Coach, The Performer and The Organizer.
Part 2 will feature The Stuntman, The Creative and The Athlete.
Part 3 will talk about up-and-coming Jobs, that aren't quite relevant yet, but might be in the future.
The Coach
Being a Freerunning Coach or Trainer is probably one of the more obvious choices, with the prime example being Parkour Generations and the many other classes and gyms all around the world.
If you can see yourself guiding newcomers into the world of Freerunning, working with kids and working out games and ways of making exercise and learning a fun experience this might be perfect for you!
Seeing the smiles on a face of somebody who just achieved something he never thought he could do or seeing the friendships grow between participants is very rewarding. You can have an influence on somebody life and see it instantly.
Of course you want to be a good coach, which means educating yourself in methods of teaching and learning, understanding the human body, liability, nutrition and being ready for any questions your students might ask you.
You got all that down, but how do you get started?
If you are parts of a gymnastics or sports club you can ask them if you can use their facilities to give lessons, which a lot of them welcome. It is very likely that this requires a license to be liable when coaching people and setting up obstacles.
Most gyms will support you on your way of doing that! Especially if you want to teach kids a license is very helpful for proving your skill and gaining a parents trust.
Outdoor classes are a good alternative and more true to the roots of the sport. Make sure to inform yourself about liability in case somebody gets hurt, even if it's not your fault.
After you set up a location and time you will have to promote your classes. Post it on Facebook, build a website, tell your friends, make a video, get creative! There are loads of people out there who want to learn and are willing to pay a good coach for his skill.
Don't get discouraged if you are off to a slow start, if you are a good coach word of mouth will go around after time and you will be able to build a strong business.
What's next as a coach?
If you're able to sustain yourself and you feel like you want to take another step ahead there are many possibilities. Such as seminars for teachers, who want to bring Freerunning classes into their schools, writing fitness-concepts for fitness-studios or even opening your own gym and employing a group of coaches and friends you trust.
Examples? The Airwipp Academy, Tempest and many more!
The Performer
There are lots of companys out there that want to introduce a new product to their audience or promote what they already do in a different way. Today a lot of them want to use Freerunning for the many connotations that people build to it.
As a Performer you can spend a lot of time working on your skill, have chances of travelling for shows and commercials while being part of interesting choreographies with dancers and all kinds of athletes.
What skills are important as a performer? First things first, you will be on camera and on stage so make sure you look your best and are fit! Period.
As a Performer you want to be an outstanding Team-Player, have a strong stage-presence, be easy to work with, understand choreographies, build stamina and practice a good feeling for music, rhythm and timing. If you have problems with any of these you might want to invest in some dance- or even acting-classes.
Understand what is impressive to a normal person, not to you! For the normal person a standing back-tuck is way more impressive than a double-cork, keep that in mind and use it for your advantage!
You feel like you can do this, but you don't know how to get work?
Understand that companys don't like taking risks, thus they want a proof of your skill and expertise before hiring you. You can do this by editing a professional looking showreel, building a website that showcases your skill and by using correct language when answering their e-mails on time!
With this proof of skill you can contact other Freerunning Teams near you who give performances already and offer help or even acquire businesses near you and explain how you can help them.
Start small and trust that your contact will be handed on if you work professionally, are on time and pleasant to have around!
What's next as a Performer?
Of course you won't be able to be a Performer until the end of your days and one option of staying within the realm is by building an agency for Performances. Collect the contacts you gained throughout the years, collect a Team of trustworthy athletes and build a strong reputation. Becoming a choreographer is also possible!
If you look for an example or a guide to follow look at what 3Run is doing, how they present themselves and reference it. Maybe you even find a way to improve what the leading performance-team is already doing.
The Organizer
Most Freerunners love Jams, Workshops, Events or pretty much every reason to get together and exchange about what they love. For every Jam there's always somebody who organizes a venue, sends out invitations and takes care of the whole experience so you don't have to worry about it. That guy could be you.
Creating a good event requires a lot of thought, practice and skill. People value a great event so they are willing to pay for the experience you create for them.
To be honest I don't have a lot of experience in organizing such events, so look at the prime example out there which is Filip Ljungberg from AirWipp who manages to pull together sponsors and supporters for their big contest (the Airwipp Challenge) and puts together beautiful WinterCamps. Another one to look at is KrapInvaders.
If you want to get a hold in this business I suggest visiting a lot of events while making notes of what you like and what you'd want to improve, talking to the organizers about what problems they faced and what to watch out for when organizing your own events.
Once you did this I suggest starting with small events and building from there. Value the customer-experience more than anything else and try to offer them a satisfying experience for their money!
What's next as an Organizer?
As long as there is Freerunners they will always want to meet, jam and learn together. You can create this unique environment and progress to bigger or just simply better events. Get support from Sponsors and go from local Jams to international Events or Competitions that entertain hundreds of Freerunners or even thousands of spectators!
If you made it this far you either got some useful information or you haven't found what you've been looking for yet. Either way you should stay tuned for Part 2 covering The Stuntman, The Creative and The Athlete!
Damien Walters runs the Loop21 Feb
An iconic challenge in all extreme sports it was only a matter of time for somebody to do the Loop.
It would be the easy way to build a small looping and just wallflip while tapping around, that's not what Damien Walters wanted to do. Building a big size custom looping he actually runs across it with some legit steps, props!


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