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I wasn't sure what to write about for today. With a giant hurricane bearing down on our friends and family all along the East Coast, Halloween costume choices and seasonal Count Chocula cereal seems trivial.
But then I got a note this morning from one of the regulars on our blog. She was letting me know that another regular had left our group because people were always so mean on the blog.
It makes me so sad that people don't feel welcome on the blog unless they're ready to duke it out or have a thick skin. We've talked in the past about people on the mom blog being meaner than the people on the sports blogs, and it's just not right. It doesn't have to be that way.
Moms and dads should be able to turn the blog for news about parenting and family life, a lively discussion and even support. They shouldn't feel attacked just for commenting or afraid to comment.
I have been thinking about Hurricane Sandy and in my mind picturing images of people helping their neighbors during Hurricane Katrina. I hope the damage isn't severe, FEMA does its job efficiently and that people are kind to each other during this crisis.
I also hope that maybe we can turn a new leaf and people also can be kind on the blog. Think twice before you zip off your snarky, oh so witty comment that you know will actually hurt someone's feelings. Let's stop all the negativity and be kind and supportive to our fellow parents. Rearing kids hard enough without parents being mean to each other.
October 29th, 2012
11:30 am
I hope those who made fun of and cursed the people of New Orleans during/after Katrina get a new perspective as they watch the people of the northeast deal with the predicted terrible mess.
October 29th, 2012
11:34 am
I don't know why people feel the need to attack and be mean to others.
If everyone practiced ONE random act of kindness every day, the world would change.
But there are so many bitter people out there who feel the need to take others down. I guess it makes them feel superior. I don't get it.
We are all in this life together, and we just have to get along. Try to say or do something positive every day. If not for you, for others around you. We all have our troubles, and our problems, and no one escapes this life without some hurt. We have all lost loved ones, we've all lost jobs, but there are people who simply cannot function unless they are being hurtful.
If everyone threw their problems out on the table, you would gladly take your's back. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes, and quit judging a book by its cover. You don't know what has happened to the stranger you see today.
You see a homeless person, but you don't know their story, their history.
Let's think of someone else besides our selves. Give someone a smile today. Help the little old lady at the grocery store.
Practice Random Acts of Kindness every day. It will come back to you!!!
October 29th, 2012
11:56 am
Well put. I am a fairly regular reader but I barely ever comment, mainly because of the meanness you spoke of. People are nasty because they CAN be; they are hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet. It's a shame, really. I hope your post today hits home for some of your readers/posters.
And I, too, have my entire extended family and many close friends in the MD/DC/NY area and am just worried sick, especially about my grandparents, ages 91 and 94. Talking about parenting — these two people practically raised me and they are so precious to me. My grandma says they are "fine" (they live on the bottom floor of a high-rise so they have lots of neighbors around them, the building has a back-up generator, etc.) but still, I feel helpless. Let's hope that when WE get that old, OUR kids/grandkids care enough about us to want to help us more than 800 miles away!
And I hope YOUR family/friends stay safe too, Theresa.
October 29th, 2012
12:20 pm
I promise I'm not being mean TWG but your last sentence needs a question mark.
I'm all for a lively discussion but the judgement on this blog is incredible to the point that I purposely avoid commenting anytime the topic involves religion, politics or gender. Unfortunately when the closed-minded people simply take over, it's not even worth reading their comments.
I'm hoping for the best for the folks up north. My parents, several family members & friends live in the DC area and I have lots of friends and co-workers in the NY/NJ area as well. I hope they all heeded the warnings are prepared for several days without power.
October 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
…what about those of us who refuse to use Facebook? But, as controller of your blog, you can choose with whom you want to communicate…
October 29th, 2012
12:48 pm
I'm another one that's a regular reader but don't comment very often because of that one person waiting for someone to make a typo or not agree with them on here ready to pounce. I do feel though that some of the bloggers take things others say way to seriously though. The people posting here don't know you or anything about your life so please don't take anything they say mean to heart. If anything, it makes them look ignorant more than witty.
October 29th, 2012
1:00 pm
While there certainly are people who are mean, there are also folks who might see this blog as more of a therapy session. If it is meant to be that, someone should say so. It seems like to be we can support each other while pointing out concerns about someone's thinking/reported actions. Maybe I am offbase?
At any rate, Theresa, thank you for reminding us all about keeping in mind those who are suffering with this storm, as well as those who suffer daily.
When my son was little he suffered a traumatic brain injury (many of you know this). He lost brain tissue, his eye was damaged, and the doctors were pretty sure he would have seizures and perhaps be blind. At one point during his recovery, I took him to Scottish Rite to consult with both head reconstruction and eye folks. It was an eye opener for me. So many terribly hurt kids with so many problems–we were lucky!
"Give thanks in all things, for this is the will of God" (1 Thessalonians)
October 29th, 2012
1:03 pm
I'm a regular reader and sometimes poster. I think the topics presented by Theresa are generally presented as "sunshine and fluffy bunnies" and therefore will encourage the "meaner" of posters to be just that…
October 29th, 2012
1:20 pm
I'm sure I'll get blasted for this, but I noticed an uptick in the snark factor after the AJC's format changed and Momania moved to the 'front page.' It's great for hits, but it seems like there are more random commenters and fewer regular comments. There's no reason we can't disagree, as long as we respect each other.
I'm praying for everyone in the storm's path, especially our family and my coworkers. This is some scary stuff! Anyone with wind damage so far? The wind has been unbelievable here…
October 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
If this was tied to FB, I wouldn't post anymore. I would create a "fake" account on Fb to post. My FB is PRIVATE- and I don't want to share it with anyone I don't want to.
In regards to the topic, I find this SO silly. People are mean? On the internet??? You know you can just shut down the web browser right? How can it affect me what some stranger says on the internet? Who CARES what anyone says about me in HERE or anywhere on the internet? They are strangers for pete's sake. Who cares!!!
When someone I know and I have to deal with in real life and/or I care about that is a different story. But I don't care on bit what anyone says in here about me or about what I post. If a topic gets ugly, I just freakin leave for the day. Good grief!
October 29th, 2012
1:31 pm
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October 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
I completely agree with mom2alex&max. If you don't like what's being said, leave. I would also venture a guess the people on the receiving end of "mean" comments may have flung a few mean ones themselves.
I can't think of ANYTHING I would say on here that would garner a "bully" type response from someone and if it did, I would likely be rethinking what I posted in the first place.
October 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
F-other people. I could not care even a little about what the trolls think of my posts. I share my own experiences and my own opinions.
I will admit though that your anomymous bullies do seem to have a masculine tone most of the time, and they tend to only crap on the women on here most of the time.
I'm sorry MJG won't be returning to the blog though. She seemed to be the focus of most of the harrassment. She seems like a nice lady, and that has a tendency for people to think she's an easy target.
October 29th, 2012
2:05 pm
@mom2alex&max , you need to look at the posts on Friday directed at MJG. The a-hole had clearly Googled her (many pictures online of her working at schools), and then he was taking clear shots at her appearance over and over again.
You can say you don't care what strangers have to say about you, but have one call you fat and say that you wear cheap shoes about 10 times in a day, and I bet that you would feel differently.
October 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
@ Mayhem, I am ALL about random acts of kindness and thank you for the reminder! This past week, I came home from my morning meeting and my room was not cleaned up yet, at the hotel. I had already put a tip on the counter. It was 1:30. Instead of getting mad, I stopped near the room where the housekeeper was working. " Do you mind doing my room next, is that a problem?" She told me she would be happy to do it. I asker her name, it was Beth. I went down to the front desk and told them I appreciated the customer service from Beth. I spoke with the manager.
Practice Random Acts of Kindness every day. It will come back to you!! So true!
When I got to ATL yesterday, our flight was 90 minutes late. I remained in my seat, so that those who had tight connections could proceed on to their destination. Several asked me if I was getting off and I replied, "Later, I live here." Hopefully it helped someone. Maybe it will come back to me!
@ catlady, I do enjoy tossing things around here and getting another opinion. I have enjoyed making new friends too!
Thoughts and prayers going up for everyone in the storm's way. There were lots of people stuck in ATL last night!
October 29th, 2012
2:14 pm
@MJG – Glad to see your post…I was hoping it wasn't you as others thought! It's sad to hear of anyone leaving.
I suppose I will feed the troll. The AJC is an Atlanta paper.
October 29th, 2012
2:17 pm
@ TWG…I don't use my name and would not register to protect my kids. I don't needs some Mom that knows them to go OH! So that teacher on the blog must be Mrs. Jones…and so on. You have my real name b/c I have emailed with you before.
I don't participate on the Mom Facebook, again so people cannot pin point the my eldest/my youngest stories back to my actual child. So to sum it up, using real identies on a national blog not what I believe to a good idea. (Trust me I can be just as outspoken in person too).
October 29th, 2012
2:18 pm
jarvis: I didn't look at the blog last Friday, I busy. But if what you say is true, yet one more reason why I would NEVER use my real name on anything on the internet. And also, if they did it to me, I would just not participate in the blog that day. I still wouldn't give a rat's behind that some dim wit on the internet was calling me fat. Who cares.
October 29th, 2012
2:21 pm
@ jarvis…I am still here. I have been out with children today. I was frankly stunned by those comments and have no idea how to process them. I wear what is appropriate for my line of work. I have been doing this for 15 years and before that teaching. If I went along with the suggestions, I would not be hired as it would look ridiculous for me to show up in an $800 suit and try to sit criss cross on the floor with children. Doesn't your wife teach Kinder? Does she wear an $800 suit?
Furthermore, I am all over the US and ( trust me on this one) there are more people ( in education) who do NOT wear $800 suits ( coast to coast) than those who do. I really do not get the shoes, as they are not typically in the picture. I am all about shoes and do not wear cheap shoes. Currently I am wearing Enzo Agionlini.
I always tell people, " It is not about what I look like…it is about what I can do." This has served me well for 30 years. I thought about those comments today, as I saw the smiles on the faces and the laughter of children, in private preschools. They really do not care what you look like. They care if you are fun and engaging. That is something I can do!
October 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
Hate runs rampant on the Internet. There are a lots of angry people in the world. Angry people who enjoy nothing more than ruining everyone's day.
Those people suck……
It's a side effect of never leaving their parent's basement and being afraid of the sun.
October 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
Jarvis: I just read the posts form Fri. For me, personally, I could not care LESS. MJG has given this blog enough personal details that finding a pic of her on the web wouldn't be that difficult. So what?
At the end of the day you guys are strangers. I don't know you and you don't know me. We can have lively debates on proposed topics of common interest, but at the end of the day, what could it POSSIBLY matter to you what I think of you? It is irrelevant to your daily life. And that is tru og 99.9999% of internet interactions. If it gets ugly, I just leave for the day. Who gives a rat's behind really. Pfft I say.
October 29th, 2012
2:35 pm
I love this! How much better the world would be if we would just Be Nice to each other. Many of the issues facing our country would be resolved with a bit of compassion and respect for those around us.
October 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
@mom2alex&max, I wouldn't care, but I also understand that I'm not everyone.
October 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
Well, I have posted as "me" for quite some time – and I use my actual real email address for every post. I also wish there were some manner by which to truly "identify" a poster and to also prevent the use of multiple "handles" and, of course, to prevent someone else from posting as another. I don't use Facebook so that isn't an option for me – unless I used my wife's login. With all of that said, however, I know that I oftentimes have opinions that differ from the majority but I never intend these to be taken as an attack against someone with whom I disagree. Also, totally on-board with wishing the best to all of those being affected by the storm and related issues.
October 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
I for one would miss MJG if she were to leave this blog. She makes it more interesting! The main idea of a blog is to be able to share differing opinions. If we all agreed on everything it would be as dull as dirt! I really like to hear what other parents are going through- or have been through already. That is one thing we all have in common here- our interest in parenting. Every now and then a real psycho slips in and a perfect example of that was the blog from the other day. Clearly that person had some issues- or was merely trying to get a rise out of MJG. It made me wonder a little bit…who on earth spends 250.00 on a pair of shoes?
October 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
How about we change the title of this particular topic to "Let's Remember Kindness" Period! Not just during this storm and on this blog, but Every. Single. Day!!
"If you see someone without a smile, give them one of yours."
October 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
@ Tiffany, I hear you. I do not pay more than about $50 per pair of shoes (except athletic shoes, those about $75). I spent maybe $500 at store on clothes (Coldwater Creek was the store) and got like 5 outfits. Whoever said the $800 suits is not living in Middle America, which is where MJG says she resides.
I can think of others besides MJG who have left the board though. Shoot MJG goes toe to toe with most everyone at some point, I admit I went at it a few years back. MJG, I guess you grew on me? I use your "sidewalk" metaphor all the time.
I am over people calling others fat. Should we go back to the 80s when most girls had body issues and ended up bulmic or anorexic? Just what we need more people who die like Karen Carpenter, trying to live up to someone else's idea of what they should look like.
October 29th, 2012
4:57 pm
Like Tiffany, I thought this was a blog to share differing opinions on the topic..I also would miss MJG if she left this blog..As I have said before, yes, there are times that she comments on something that I have no opinion on or that I might not be interested in reading her post, but I have never felt the need to be ugly to her.. I try to not be ugly to anyone one here..I know that I fall short on that at times..
I just went back and read the last few posts from Fridays topic..Mommy Dearest..I have MJG for lunch and she is a very wonderful person..She is very interesting to talk with..She has a beautiful family and home..If you think that a size 12 is such a bad size for women, I wonder, do you ever look around at most of the women in America.. As for not paying $250.00 for a pair of shoes or $800.00 or so on a nice suit, you would surely hate to come into the office that I work in and see the owner of the company.. I have been here 26 years and have only seen him in a suit twice..Both times were for funerals..He wears jeans, t-shirts and tennis shoes..He has been known to attend meetings with lots of "Big Corporate" people in workout shorts and tank tops with a doo rag on his head..He says that you take him as he is or not.. His neighbor thought he was the gardener for 2 years, so he never talked to him when he saw him out in the yard.. Clothes do not make the person..Neither do shoes..
@FCM..Love your comment about girls having body issues..As long as a person is healthy, does it really matter if they are a size 2? I have been there, it's not a good place to be..
@jarvis..I read in the Vent this morning, someone was wanting to vote for jarvis jones for president, not knowing your last name, I thought of you..So, if you are running for president, you have my vote.. :)
October 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
Becky – that's my kind of boss! Almost all my co-workers telecommute and so we laugh every time we do have to go into the office or get together that the hardest part about doing so is figuring out what to wear. Why invest in a bunch of business clothes that never get worn? My usual attire is shorts or jeans. I always feel like I need to "dress up" for stuff at my son's school though :)
As for MJG, I don't blame her, why would you invest in even a $200 business suit if you're going to be crawling around and playing with a bunch of kindergarten children? And what about the more important lesson of teaching kids that it's what's on the inside the matters more than the outside?
As far as the folks up north goes, I've heard from my parents in MD just outside of DC and they're still doing ok and have power. My friend in CT however has lost power already. My company's offices in NJ along with all the servers there were shut down at 5. Hoping & praying all goes well tonight.
October 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
…did not know what motherjane does for a living as her post indicates she thinks she is in corporate
October 29th, 2012
6:04 pm
@Obviously….that is what I was thinking!!! $800 suit and $250 shoes for kindergarteners? HAHA! I work in corporate America but wear mostly business casual (slacks/shirt). Today I have on jeans. If I feel "fancy" one day and put on a suit I'm asked if I have an interview or a date. :-) (Unfortunately the answer is usually "neither". LOL)
Lockheed in the DC area did not close down but some folks were "allowed" to telecommute. The weather is bad but early this afternoon my friend still had power. She's unhappy because she did not plan well for snacks (smile) but seems to be okay otherwise.
Another friend's parents live in NJ and the eye is supposed to go right over their home. He's pessimistic all the time so he's already talking about how he KNOWS somebody is going to get hurt and how somebody definitely will have bad property damage. How about let's not speak negativity into the situation, please and thank you! (I'm really working on NOT speaking so negatively about everything because, really, what you speak is what you get and I definitely cannot afford to have some of the things I say come to pass!) Also, I'm from Louisiana and have worried myself to death over hurricanes so I've been trying to keep his mind on the fact that his family has prepared for the storm the best they can and now they have to ride it out. (They didn't have anywhere to go.) I'm praying too which is all anybody 11 hours away can do anyway.
October 29th, 2012
6:35 pm
Blogs are just ways for people to "bully" others. They have to be stood up to, because they are not going away apparently.
Glad to hear that MJG is still here. She may go off-topic sometimes, but who hasn't. She may have lengthy posts, but they are usually interesting (at least they are to me). If you don't like her (or anyone else's) posts, then you don't have to read them.
October 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
Thanks cyber friends. That is what I was thinking, when I read the post and the person said they knew me. Well, if they did then they would know that my clothes, hair and shoes are the least of my worries. I know of NO educational professionals ( who work with children) that dress this way, so why would I?
Have a great evening all!
October 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
Busy day, so I'm just now reading this. Thank you, TWG, for the reminder to "play nice, y'all". I suspect that the vast majority of the people that we "meet" on the blog would be perfectly nice people if you met them the market, at school or on a volunteer committee. But inevitably, the anonymity seems to bring out the worst in a small minority of folks.
October 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
A great rule of thumb regarding civility on blogs or in on-line forums: Do not say anything you wouldn't say face-to-face in someone's living room.
October 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
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October 29th, 2012
10:00 pm
We have a society in which the same people who believe that it is wrong to steal from someone else, have absolutely no problem voting for someone who will steal on their behalf or on behalf of things on which they wish to see money spent. They justify this behavior by hiding behind laws that are passed by the very people they vote for. They are not content to start up an organization that seeks voluntary contributions to further their cause. They are not content to go door to door asking or even begging for voluntary contributions, but would rather rely on the efficiency of force and a method that keeps their hands clean of the direct act of theft. This method also insures that there can be no rejection of their request as might happen if this relationship were voluntary.
The monies that will be spent helping storm victims will not be voluntarily collected by government – they will be stolen. Those who showed careless disregard for their own safety will still be helped, and will no doubt repeat this reinforced behavior again in the future.
The anger and hostility that is so tangible in our society today is a direct result of this robber/victim relationship that government fosters (for that is the foundation of government after all – force). It is unfortunate that this hatred exists, since most people, left to their own devices, and without someone to steal on their behalf, would generally get along quite well and would work voluntarily together to achieve greatness.
So in this relationship, where do you stand? Do you look for the voluntary solution, or do you look for the politician to steal on your behalf, control others behavior on your behalf, restrict businesses on your behalf, punish people in other countries on your behalf? What are you contributing to the anger equation?
October 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
By bringing government, its laws, its taxation, its regulations, its restrictions, etc. into the equation, just remember, it is YOU that showed up with the guns. Civility is a difficult thing to maintain when the gun of government is pointing at you. I know it is very difficult to look at things this way, but there is ultimately no other way to look at government. Government is not about voluntary cooperation. Either you do as they say – or else.
October 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
MJG, count me as another one who is glad you are here. Like others, I read but don't post when the topic is likely to draw the crazies from Kyle & Jay's blogs. Love those blogs too but I don't post there for exactly this reason. Momania has for the most part been a safe space and let's keep it so
October 30th, 2012
8:59 am
Techmom..I forgot to mention that as I am posting to this blog, wearing shorts and t shirt (normal work gear) that I am wearing my Halloween slippers..No shoes..I love my job and the company that I work for..Basically if I have on clothes, I'm good..Be it shorts & shirt or dress and heels..The owner and VP (all managers) wear shorts, t shirts and very casual wear..Heck, the owner came in one day this summer wearing two different shoes..They were both sandals and he said he just didn't realize it when he left..
As, I said yesterday..I may not agree with everything that some post on here at times, there may be times when Theresa has a topic that I know nothing about or have no interest in, but as a general rule, I like everyone on here..LIke MJG says, others know a lot about things that I know nothing about and I enjoy reading and learning things on here..jarvis and Mayhem usually always make me laugh over things that they say..Jessie's Girl also when she is on here…MJG and catlady, I am always learning things from them and lots of others..So hopefully we can all start getting along..
As a side note..Prayers to my sister and best friend who are just about in the middle of the storm..Sister in VA, just outside of DC and friend in Maryland…Blessings to all…
October 30th, 2012
2:33 pm
I was very thankful that we didn't get as hard hit as we were supposed to. I had geared up pretty well (gas and oil for the generator, batteries, radio, wood etc.) but didn't need them. Woo hoo!
But, hearing some of the stories of folks that did get some damage – I wish them the best.


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Age: 19-24 Skin: Other, Fair-Medium Hair: Brunette Eyes: Blue
I like this eyeliner. It works great on the waterline, however if you are putting it only on your lower lash line and not your waterline it will smuge. Also, you can twist up the eyeliner but you can't twist it back down. The lasting power is very good. Overall I really like this eyeliner.
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iateurwaffle on 4/7/2013 12:48:00 AM more reviews by iateurwaffle
Age: 18 & Under Skin: Dry, Fair-Medium Hair: Black Eyes: Brown
I bought this today in 'Midnight Master' and when I try to twist to get the product to rise it wouldn't comply. It took me a while to get it up and when I finally did I notice it wouldn't go back down. So I kept twisting back and forth because I thought it was just jammed or something but nope didn't work, instead it extended out even more. I tried using my finger to push it back in but ended up breaking half an inch of it off. It wasn't until I watched a YouTube review of it that I learn that it is suppose to take a few twisted to get it to rise and that it doesn't go back down.
But besides the bad design of the applicator, the product itself is amazing! It's very pigmented and once it sets, it does not smudge. Water won't make it budge I had to use make up remover to get it out. And even though it took a long while to get the product out, once it rises the excessive twisting isn't necessary anymore.
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secretstrangers on 4/6/2013 6:21:00 PM more reviews by secretstrangers
Age: 19-24 Skin: Other, Fair Hair: Brunette Eyes: Brown
Worst. Eyeliner. Ever. It goes on just fine but the eyeliner lead itself is AWFUL. It breaks very easily and lasts maybe a week. The very first time I opened the package half of the eyeliner pencil fell out. HALF. Don't waste your time or money in this piece of crap.
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*TOP REVIEWER* silverwing on 3/21/2013 3:17:00 PM more reviews by silverwing
Age: 30-35 Skin: Combination, Medium, Warm Hair: Brunette, Curly, Medium Eyes: Brown
I have this liner in Midnight Master. I wear contacts and only use this on my upper lash-line. The waterline, is not wear I typically wear liner anyway, so I have not worn it there.
This goes on very creamy, opaque, and has not smudged, This does last all day long and needs to be removed with an eye makeup remover.
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*TOP REVIEWER* MrsTefee on 3/9/2013 3:21:00 PM more reviews by MrsTefee
Age: 19-24 Skin: Combination, Fair, Warm Hair: Blond, Straight, Fine Eyes: Blue
I bought this to just try it out and see if it was good. I have worn this about a week and found that its just too runny. I put it on my lash line and it somehow smears onto my skin below my bottom lashes when I smile/laugh alot. At first I thought it was my mascara but I bought a waterproof mascara and its still smearing so now I know its the eyeliner. Its because I NEVER have this problem with eyeliners until this one so....this was a no go. The victoria's secret pencil liner is better than this.
I gave it two lippies because its at least very nice and dark silky black in colour which is nice.
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I'm Probably Going to Regret Telling You This…
I have so many things I want to tell you.
And a lot of questions I want to bring up again.
It's been a long time since I've posted here. In the meantime, I've been doing most of my writing in other forums and places where I could be anonymous.
I think most writers do their best writing anonymously.
I started this blog anonymously. But then it all changed.
The problem with writing anonymously is that, once you start writing things you're proud of, you want to show your friends what you've written. So eventually you break the barrier and tell them about it. But then you can't be anonymous anymore, and you start to feel the pressure that you can't write the kinds of things you used to write.
I've changed a lot since I stopped posting here. I came to some surprising conclusions about my view of the Bible. That led me to rethink my conservative beliefs. A couple months ago I voluntarily gave up my ordination. I'm rethinking the ethics of sexuality, particularly in regards to sexual orientation. And I'm sorting through some personal issues in regards to my own gender identity.
Yeah, I've got some stuff to talk about. Am I ready to come back? I think so.
I thought about starting a new blog from scratch. But I've getting between half-a-dozen and a dozen random visitors a day to this blog. I hate to just let it go.
And I think I'm done with trying to hide this stuff. It's time for me to start talking about it. That's one of the reasons I gave up my ordination, so I can deal openly with this stuff without feeling the pressure that I need to "be someone."
So here I am back again, blogosphere. Time for a restart. I'm finally ready to get real with you. I've missed you, old friends.
Free Courses Online
I started taking a course on logic through Coursera. Ah, the internet, how cool. Free classes with amazing quality. The class is called "Think Again" and it is taught by Walter Sinnot-Armstrong, a philosopher whom I respect. The class started at the end of November and must be completed by mid March. I didn't sign up until about a week ago, but I'm cruising through it. So far this is literally the best class I've ever had on logic. And to think, it is completely free.
I'm still figuring out how Coursera works, but it doesn't look like it is accredited, but it is the same course taught by accredited programs (in this case, Sinnot-Armstrong is from Duke). At the end of the class you get a certificate of completion. So really, how is it different from a paid University, where you get the same thing at the end? And did I mention it's free? If anyone else would like to join me, let me know. I think it would be fun to connect with someone else. The forums seem daunting. I posted an introduction, but I'm like one of 2 gazillion people. So it really didn't work for me. Plus, since I started late, I have to catch up.
There's another cool class coming up with Dan Ariely, author of Predictably Irrational. The course is called A Beginner's Guide to Irrational Behavior. It begins March 25 and goes for 6 weeks. It's harder for me to justify taking the free courses at the same time I'm taking "real" (=paid) courses for my M.Div. program. But we'll see. It's not really too much of an investment other than watching the videos and doing multiple-choice forms afterwards.
3 Ways to Think About the Problem of Free Will
When someone is presented with the gospel and asked to respond, is that person really free to accept or reject the message?
Well that depends on what you mean by "free."
We could ask whether we are really free to do anything. This the question of free will in the "formal" sense, and it is primarily a philosophical question. But it is not really a very useful question. Even if it were not logically possible for any human to ever make a "free" decision, we would still be presented with choices, and many of these choices have the appearance of requiring a free will decision.
Ultimately the real question is: Are we free to respond to the gospel in the same sense as we are free to choose chocolate rather than peach gelato? This is the question of free will in the "material" sense.
Historically there have been three major families of theological answers on this topic.
1. The Calvinist answer. Following John Calvin (1509-1564), this position fully accepts the implications of Total Depravity. God chooses or elects some individuals to receive grace which empowers them to receive the gospel. God's grace is said to be both irresistible and efficient, meaning that it always accomplishes salvation in the individuals God chooses. On this view, you are not free to accept or reject the gospel in the same sense as you are free to make other kinds of day-to-day choices.
2. The Pelagian and Semi-Pelagian positions. The Pelagian option is to deny or temper what we have said about Total Depravity. Pelagians, who derive their name from Pelagius, a fifth century British ascetic, deny the doctrine of Total Depravity altogether. Semi-Pelagians argue instead that humans are only partially depraved. For Semi-Pelagians, individuals have a real choice when presented with the gospel, but they are predisposed against it. Their choice, though free, is perhaps more like choosing between chocolate gelato and rice patties.
3. The Arminian answer. Following Jacobus Arminius (1560-1609), Arminians also fully affirm the doctrine of Total Depravity. The effects of depravity can only be overcome by God's grace, but on the Arminian view, this grace, called prevenient grace is given freely to all of humanity. In contrast to the Calvinist view, God's grace can be resisted but it empowers people to be able to respond to the gospel despite the effects of Total Depravity. The final result is to affirm both material free will and Total Depravity.
Can I ask you for a favor? I'm really trying to restart this blog, and what makes blogging exciting is the comments. You've taken the time to read the post, so now please take an extra minute and leave a comment.
What do you think? Which answer makes the most sense to you? Have these three exhausted all the options?
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What Eatting Gelato Can Teach You About the Problem of Free Will
Are humans really free to make choices, or have our choices been predetermined?
The concept of free will is one of the thorniest and most difficult for both theologians and secular philosophers. To complicate matters, within Christian theology, there is not just one problem of free will. There are two.
And lots of smart people who should know better regularly get them confused.
1. The formal problem of free will
The formal problem of free will is the question of how human will is related to the divine.
In philosophy, the question is whether our choices are really our own, or whether they are dictated by genetics, environment, and conditioning.
In theology, the question is how our decisions can really be our own when God is in control of everything.
In his entry on "Will" in the New Dictionary of Theology, Paul Helm states that no matter how one chooses to understand free will, "there is a prima facie problem of reconciling the activity of the human will with the divine. Those who have attributed powers of contrary choice or self-determination to the human will have often attempted to effect such reconciliation by limiting the scope of the divine decree in some respect… Others have rested content with maintaining that while God foreordains all human actions he is not the author of sin."
The position that we have true freedom to choose any option when given a choice are often called libertarian free will.
The position that we are free only to choose according to our motives and personality is usually called compatibilist free will because it is this view is said to be "compatible" with God's divine choice as the ultimate cause of all of our human choices.
2. The material problem of free will
The material problem of free will is the question of whether we have the ability or power to follow through on a choice we have already made.
You might choose to start a new, aggressive plan for working out. But that doesn't mean you're really going to do it.
So even if you are logically free in a libertarian sense, you still may lack the material willpower to follow through on my decision, a commitment to exercise for instance. Likewise, even if the compatibilist position is true and your will is logically constrained, you may still have the discipline or "freedom" to follow through on your decisions.
What does gelato have to do with it?
Let's put it in more concrete terms.
Let's say my wife and I decide to get gelato from the Millstone, a popular mom-and-pop restaurant in Iola. Let's say I have a choice between chocolate and peach.
I sit and stare at the choice. I go back and forth because they both look good. Finally I decide upon chocolate.
As I'm eating my gelato, I muse philosophically, "Was I really free to choose peach, or did I choose chocolate because God wanted me to choose chocolate?"
My wife turns to me and says, "You think too much."
That's because whether we have free will in the formal sense is really irrelevant in our day-to-day lives. What we care about on a day-to-day basis is whether we have free will in the material sense: we all know that I could just as easily have chosen peach, but for whatever reason I chose chocolate.
The good news
Christians believe that our material will is naturally constrained because of sin. Through faith in Jesus, you can be transformed so that you are finally free in every sense that matters.
If you have been "freed from sin and enslaved to God" (Romans 6.22), you receive the benefits of true freedom, to live as God intended and designed you.
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What's Holding You Down? Ancient Christians said it is this Pervasive Problem
Something's wrong with the world.
We can feel it. We know that this is not how things are supposed to be, but we can't explain what the problem is.
Morpheus in The Matrix put it this way:
You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work… when you go to church… when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth. That you are a slave… Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your mind.
Of course this is real life, not a movie. The matrix is not our problem. The ancient Christians said the problem goes much deeper than that.
Why should we care what ancient Christians said?
The views of the ancient church are recorded in the Bible. I have close friends who don't accept the Bible. They believe they have good reasons for rejecting the Bible. Why, they ask, should we take the time to listen to what the Bible has to say?
I would give two answers.
For one thing, even if it was merely written by men, it is a classic of Western literature. Until a couple hundred years ago, it served as the foundation for the fundamental ideas of the leaders of our society. That alone should count for something.
Beyond that, there's the fact that countless Christians, both modern and ancient, have had their lives completely transformed by it. It's worth looking at.
The Problem
The Bible consists of 66 very diverse books written by multiple authors and complied into the book we have today. The statement of the problem is surprisingly consistent. Consider the following sampling of verses from nearly every strand of biblical material:
- Genesis 8.21: "[T]he Lord said to Himself, '…the intent of man's heart is evil from his youth…'"
- 2 Chronicles 6.36: "…for there is no man who does not sin…"
- Isaiah 53.6: "All of us like sheep have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way…"
- Rom 5.12: "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned."
- 1 Cor 2.14: "But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised."
- 1 John 1.10: "If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us."
The ancient Christian believers taught that the main problem is that humans are dead in sin. The conventional name for this doctrine is Total Depravity.
Loraine Boettner, one of the most influential theologians of the 20th century, describes the doctrine of Total Depravity in his book, The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination (X.2). Though he is from a stream of the Christian tradition that I would disagree with on many points, I agree with him on this point:
…since the Fall, man [sic] rests under the curse of sin, that he is actuated by wrong principles, and that he is wholly unable to love God or to do anything meriting salvation.
How bad is it?
It is somewhat unfortunate that we have inherited this particular term in the Christian theological tradition because the word "total" would seem to imply that humanity could not be any more depraved, and that we are as wicked as we can possibly be.
Boettner says that the doctrine, "does not mean that all men are equally bad, nor that any man is as bad as he could be, nor that any one is entirely destitute of virtue, nor that human nature is evil… His corruption is extensive but not necessarily intensive."
Total Depravity means that every aspect of our character has been infected by sin, and on our own we can make no decision apart from its influence.
Anthony Hoekema suggests that the alternate term, "Pervasive Depravity" would be more appropriate. But that would spell complete and utter disaster for the five points of Calvinism, which would become PULIP instead of TULIP. For the sake of continuity, and so as not to tick off the AAAAA (American Association Against Acronym Abuse), it is perhaps best to retain the traditional term.
The doctrine of Total Depravity sums up several key themes. Humans, in their natural state, are dead in sin, unable to obey God, unable to please God, unable to free themselves, and unable to understand the things of God.
The doctrine of Total Depravity is another way of stating the need of every single person to be transformed. It is the doctrine that is necessarily entailed whenever someone says you should be "born-again." The ancient Christians believed that this could only happen through the power of Jesus.
Before you write it off, ask yourself: Are you disagreeing because you have evidence that it's not true, or are you disagreeing because you don't want it to be true?
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Isaac and Ishmael: Paul's Use of Allegory in Galatians 4
There are a lot of passages in scripture that have puzzled me.
Perhaps the most puzzling is Paul's allegorical use of the story of Isaac and Ishmael in Galatians 4.
Paul's goal in the letter is to convince the Gentiles that gentile converts did not need to be circumcised. His opponents have been arguing strongly that they do.
Here is the argument that Paul uses in Galatians 4.21-31:
21 Tell me, you who want to be under law, do you not listen to the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the bondwoman and one by the free woman. 23 But the son by the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and the son by the free woman through the promise.
24 This is allegorically speaking, for these women are two covenants: one proceeding from Mount Sinai bearing children who are to be slaves; she is Hagar. 25 Now this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present Jerusalem, for she is in slavery with her children. 26 But the Jerusalem above is free; she is our mother. 27 For it is written, "Rejoice, barren woman who does not bear; Break forth and shout, you who are not in labor; For more numerous are the children of the desolate than of the one who has a husband." (Isaiah 54.1)
28 And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29 But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also. 30 But what does the Scripture say? "Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be an heir with the son of the free woman." (Gen 21.10-12) 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.
Would that convince you? Paul pulls out a random story from the Penteteuch, reads a foreign and arbitrary meaning into it, and then expects that his critics will buy it? I don't think so.
"You who want to be under the law, do you not listen to the law?" Oh sure, all they need to do is re-read the passage about Isaac and Ishmael and they will suddenly understand that gentiles don't need to be circumcised. No, I don't think so.
If you have read this passage in the past and it has never bothered you, I want to suggest that perhaps you are not taking your Bible seriously enough.
Inadequate explanations
Has Paul distorted scripture and gotten away with it? Is he asserting some apostolic right to read into the scriptures any interpretation he feels the Holy Spirit has shown him? Some interpreters have given up and accepted that he did.
Other commentators speculate that perhaps Paul's opponents were using the Sarah-Hagar story in their own rhetoric, and Paul is attempting to turn their own logic back at them. If so, he did a lousy job. Using an allegory to try to convince someone who disagrees is a stupid argument.
I have come to think there is a better explanation.
Context, context, context
We must start by recounting Paul's argument so far, beginning back in 3.6. He has been arguing that those who have faith are Abraham's true descendants according to the promise given to Abraham in Genesis 12. They are therefore no longer slaves, but are now Abraham's heirs.
Here are the relevant verses leading up to our passage:
3.7 – Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham.
3.9 – So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.
3.14 – …in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, so that we would receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
3.29 – And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's descendants, heirs according to promise.
4.7 – Therefore you are no longer a slave, but a son; and if a son, then an heir through God.
So what's going on in this passage?
The first thing to notice is that the use of Isaac and Ishmael is not a "random story," as I suggested above. Paul has been talking about being Abraham's true descendants. This story is about Abraham's first descendants. Isaac and Ishmael literally embodied the point Paul was making. Isaac was born in accordance with the promise of Genesis 12; Ishmael wasn't. What happened to Isaac is paradigmatic for what it means to be Abraham's descendant by faith through the promise.
The second thing to notice is that, in typical Pauline style, he states his conclusion at the beginning of the passage, and then jumps back to show the logic that leads to the conclusion. In this case, his summary statement (v.21) is, "Do you not listen to the law?" The only quotation from the law (the Penteteuch) will not come until the end of the passage (v.30): "Cast out the bondwoman and her son. For the son of the bondwoman shall not be an heir with the son of the free woman."
The argument is that Abraham's children are not all Abraham's heirs – only the sons of the promise are heirs. Paul uses this verse to confirm the argument he has been making thus far. It is theologically relevant to his overall argument. Believers are brothers with Isaac in some true sense that is not merely metaphorical (v.28). Just as Paul applies Abraham's blessing to believers (3.9), so he also applies Isaac's promise to believers.
But there is still the question of the gap between v.21 and v.28. Why didn't he go straight to this verse? Why digress into a discussion of Sarah and Hagar? And why complicate it by saying they are allegorical?
Changing perspective
The answer, I believe, is best found by starting at the end of the passage and tracing Paul's logic backwards.
The first clue is to notice that Paul has altered the Genesis quotation in v.30 by replacing the phrase "my son Isaac," with "the son of the free woman." Of course this does not change the sense of the passage, since both phrases refer to the same person, Isaac. But Paul uses the new vocabulary to draw out the implicit dichotomy between bondslave and free. The language of "bondslave" in reference to Hagar was already explicit in the Genesis text.
The dichotomy between slave and free is exactly the theme he has been discussing until this point in the letter. But Genesis 21.10 introduces a new element into Paul's discussion – two mothers. So before he can give the quotation, he must first set up the significance of the mothers for Abraham's heirs. After all, believers may be Isaac's brothers, but they are not Sarah's sons. This part of the verse would be meaningless in the Galatian's context – unless Paul can find a valid scriptural interpretation of the mother that applies theologically to believers.
What does Isaiah have to say about it?
Paul finds just such an interpretation in Isaiah 54.1 (v.27), where Jerusalem is depicted as a barren woman who suddenly has numerous children. This provides Paul with theological grounds for associating "the free woman" with "Jerusalem" in reference to believers.
But everybody knows that gentile believers are not accepted by the Jews in Jerusalem. So before he can introduce the Isaiah passage, he must make one more move. Paul looks to Jewish theology that says that the earthly temple is a copy of the heavenly temple (cf. Ex 25.12, Is 6), and thus the earthly Jerusalem is a copy of the heavenly Jerusalem. He calls them the "Now-Jerusalem," (Νυν Ἰερουσαλήμ) and the "Above-Jerusalem," (Ἄνω Ἰερουσαλήμ). So he explicitly links the bondwoman with the earthly Jerusalem and the free woman with the heavenly Jerusalem (v.25-6).
At the same time, he ties all of this back to his argument in chapter 2, that Abraham and Moses represent two covenants (v.24). Notice that this is not a contrast between a new and an old covenant, since Abraham's covenant of faith is older than the Mosaic covenant.
The important thing to recognize is that every logical move makes is theologically justified, either by (a) the argument he has already made in the earlier part of the letter, or (b) interpretations made by the prophets, specifically Isaiah. But while it is theologically justified, it is not textually justified by the Genesis text alone. Paul is aware that his argument is not exegetically sound apart from the theological argument. Thus he introduces this section of Galatians (v.24) by declaring that he has allegorized (ἀλληγορούμενα) the account.
So Galatians 4.21-31 is allegory but it is not fanciful allegory. It is an interpretation that is theologically warranted by an intertextual reading of scripture. Paul was merely drawing out implications which were inherent in the Old Testament itself. It is not the stupid argument I once thought it to be.
Paul's Use of Allegory and the Mystery of the Panda
Now that I'm back to blogging, I'm trying to post every Monday and Thursday night. But I'm still working out the schedule. I have a really fun post I'm working on about Paul's allegorical use of Isaac and Ishmael in Gal 4. I think you'll dig it. But it's not done yet, and I'm not going to stay up to finish it. I haven't promised to post today, but I'll feel like a dog if I go to bed without posting something at least.
In the meantime, here is my favorite video of the week, from the old MTV show:


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They physically moved her bones. They moved her collar bone lower. I hope stuff like this makes people realize how ridiculous the media is.
this is so depressing.
this makes me so angry!
oH MYGOD I HATE THE MEDIA
In case you're ever wondering why you don't look like the girls on the covers of magazines: neither do they.
I will always reblog this so everyone that follows me has a chance to see how messed up society is.
48 years on
God bless whoever made this.
Chicago-based Photographer David Schalliol
The Frozen Aftermath of a Chicago Warehouse Fire. Temperatures were so low during the fire that water sprayed on the building froze almost instantly leaving behind a spectacularly beautiful ice-encrusted wonderland. [Via: thisiscolossal]
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Phoenix • Here's a story that's been told a lot in Phoenix over the last few days, in the newspaper, on talk radio, by a Suns executive and by Jeff Hornacek, who was introduced Tuesday as the new coach of the team that drafted him.
In 2004, Hornacek, then 41, four years removed from retiring as a player with the Utah Jazz and with zero coaching experience, was tabbed by Boston Celtics' executive Danny Ainge as a candidate to coach the Celtics.
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Age » 50
As a player » Named NBA All-Star in 1992. ... Shot 49.6 percent from the field in 14 NBA seasons, including 40.3 percent from 3. ... Played for Suns, 76ers and Jazz. ... Appeared in 477 games with the Jazz from 1993 to 2000. ... Number retired by Jazz on Nov. 19, 2002.
As a coach » Joined Jazz as special assistant in 2007. ... Hired as full-time assistant in February 2011. ... Previously a candidate for head coaching openings in Boston, Orlando, Philadelphia and Charlotte.
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Four current NBA head coaches who have played for Jerry Sloan:
Jeff Hornacek » Phoenix Suns
Tyrone Corbin » Utah Jazz
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The job ultimately went to Doc Rivers. The Celtics won a championship in 2008 and became one of the best teams of the decade. Hornacek, meanwhile, stayed out of the league for three more years, watching his kids grow up.
NBA history is littered with well-hyped, but ultimately flawed head coaches who come and go. Hornacek, who spent the first six years of his playing career in Phoenix, took a more patient approach. He returned as a special assistant to the Jazz in 2007, tasked specifically with helping Andrei Kirilenko, and became a full-time assistant in 2011.
"I probably thought I could have coached Boston when Danny called me nine years ago," Hornacek said Tuesday. "I probably wouldn't have been successful, or as successful as I'm hoping to be now."
After being considered in the last year by Orlando, Philadelphia and Charlotte, Hornacek finally found the right fit with the Suns after spending the last 2½ seasons with the Jazz as an assistant under Tyrone Corbin.
The Suns parted ways with interim coach Lindsey Hunter after a 25-57 season and after firing head coach Alvin Gentry mid-year.
In a statement released by the Jazz, Corbin, who played with Hornacek in both Phoenix and Utah, said, "I want to thank Jeff for his hard work, loyalty and dedication. Whether it be as teammates, working together under Jerry Sloan, or as part of my key staff, Jeff is a good friend and I am sorry to see him go."
But the circumstances under which Hornacek becomes a head coach are undeniably like a storybook. His family lives in Phoenix, and, despite having only a small suitcase of clothes with him in the Valley of the Sun, Hornacek is already moved in.
Jazz GM Dennis Lindsey called Hornacek's return a "pretty picture."
Hornacek promised an up-tempo offense, not unlike the one he played in under former Suns' coach Cotton Fitzsimmons. But just like he picked up traits as a player by watching Isiah Thomas and Magic Johnson, he learned from all of his coaches, notably Sloan.
"Hopefully I can take Jerry's toughness," Hornacek said, "and Cotton's enthusiasm and confidence building and blend them all together."
Hornacek told stories about playing alongside Tom Chambers and Kevin Johnson, about lessons from Fitzsimmons and about the time in 1992, when in a conversation with then-GM Dick Van Arsdale about Charles Barkley, he said, "That's the guy we need."
Hornacek couldn't have guessed that the Suns would fulfill his request — by shipping the popular guard to Philadelphia in exchange for Barkley. When things didn't quite work out for Hornacek in Philadelphia, he was traded 20 months later to the Jazz.
As much as Tuesday brought a reintroduction between Phoenix and Hornacek, it also brought an end to an association between Hornacek and the Jazz that lasted two decades.
He is considered the piece that pushed the Jazz, anchored by Karl Malone and John Stockton, over the top and into back-to-back NBA Finals in 1997 and 1998. He is the best 3-point shooter in Jazz history, with career accuracy of 42.8 percent. His No. 14 is one of seven retired by the Jazz.
"It's hard to leave there," Hornacek said, "knowing that the great tradition and all the history we had there, playing-wise. It's going to be very, very weird when I go back there with another team to coach."
Corbin is left with a large hole to fill on his bench. Hornacek was a skills coach who worked closely with young players Gordon Hayward, Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter, which he said was the highlight of his tenure on the bench.
"He was an advocate for our young players," Lindsey said. "Quiet confidence, poise. He won't throw guys under the bus to save his own hide."
Before joining Corbin's staff after Sloan abruptly resigned in 2011, Hornacek said, he didn't realize the amount of work that went into getting young players ready for the NBA level. The "one and done" culture of heralded college players, he said, means they come in less ready for the NBA.
"You can't assume these guys know some of the stuff we learned back in college," he said, "because they didn't have that experience."Next Page >
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Citrix Receiver Now Also for Android Smartphones
At its iForum conference in Singapore on July 28, the Xen owner Citrix announced that its Citrix Receiver software for virtulized Windows systems would be extended to the Android platform. Until now it was available only in iPhone mobile devices.
Citrix Receiver enables communication among virtualized Windows systems and company road warriors so that they can collaborate on documents and share programs. The running programs and data remain on the remote system, only the keystrokes, screen activity and updates traverse the network. That's why emails or documents never get stored as such on a mobile device.
The Citrix Receiver works over a special Doc Finder program that makes it easier to navigate and modify documents in the corporate library. The App Viewer is a Web browser-like interface that uses the IE engine, but adjusts to the small mobile screen.
The Android project, according to Citrix, is entering a whole new working arrangement with the open source firm Open Kernel Labs (OK-Labs). The U.S.-Australian embedded developers were a spin-off in 2006 of the Australian National Center of Excellence for Information and Communication Technology and specialize in their dual-licensed OKL4 Microvisor for virtualizing mobile systems (based on ARM, MIPS and Intel). Linux is supported as a guest system, as are Android, Windows Mobile and Symbian with a bit of adjustment. The microvisor is available open source for noncommercial use and can be modified and further distributed. Downloads, however, need valid e-mail address registration.
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Internet Giants Launch Collaboration to Improve Open Source
TODO group will focus on open source tools in large-scale environments.
Fedora Announces New Partition Manager App
New tool will look like GParted but support a wider range of storage technologies.
Mozilla Releases a New Firefox
New public key pinning feature will help prevent man-in-the-middle attacks.
Tool Predicts Which Websites Will be Compromised
Carnegie Mellon researchers say 3 million pages could fall down the phishing hole in the next year.
SSH Key Management Guidelines
The US government rolls new best-practice rules for protecting SSH.
Knoppix 7.4 Released
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PHP Attack Puts WordPress and Drupal at Risk
All websites that use these popular CMS tools could be vulnerable to denial of service attacks if users don't install the updates.
Heartbleed Bleeds On
According to a report, many potential victims of the Heartbleed attack have patched their systems, but few have cleaned up the crime scene to protect themselves from the effects of a previous intrusion.
Drone Brain Goes Open Source
DARPA and NICTA release the code for the ultra-secure microkernel system used in aerial drones.


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Two eagles circled in a cold, sunny, winter-solstice sky, high above the Idle No More rally at Spirit Garden, Thunder Bay. This is true. At the same time a young Aboriginal speaker was telling us that, "We're all treaty people". I had never considered it. Yet, if you reason that the treaties were signed between aboriginal and non-aboriginal peoples – indeed, we are all treaty people. Accordingly, should we not accept that together we're all responsible to maintain the spirit and intent of the treaties?
She also told us that although section 35 of the Canadian Constitution gives legal protection to aboriginal treaty rights, certain provisions of Stephen Harper's recent omnibus bill C-45 were passed without meaningful consultations with First Nations people. Particularly, she referred to the increasing degradation of the environment, represented in C-45 by a federal retreat from the protection of navigable waters.
This struck another chord with me. Wasn't it industrial mercury that poisoned the English River system for the Aboriginal people of Grassy Narrows? Wasn't it mined uranium tailings that poisoned the river for the Aboriginal people of Serpent River? And, even now, isn't the availability of potable drinking water a long-standing ugly reality in First Nations communities all across the North?
In this regard the Ring of Fire mining development is situated in the James Bay Lowlands -- the largest collection of intact wetlands in the world, including 4 major rivers and over 100 bodies of water. To date over a dozen First Nation communities and environmental and social justice groups have requested full environmental hearings (a Joint Panel Review) of the federal government before any mining should take place in the area. A major concern is that Cliffs Natural Resources (a repeat environmental offender in both Quebec and Minnesota) is seeking to mine chromite (a known carcinogen) in their midst. Yet Mr. Harper's government has not heard or responded to these requests.
Meanwhile, just north of Marathon's airport a local citizens' group has succeeded in having Stillwater Mining Company undergo a Joint Panel Review prior to starting up their proposed copper and palladium mine. Now, ask yourself: how is it that a single group of largely non-Aboriginal townspeople (much closer to the trans-Canada highway and 'civilization') should succeed in their request for a JPR, when numbers of Aboriginal communities in the remote north have failed?
I think the simple answer is as former Prime Minister Paul Martin said very recently, "We have never admitted to ourselves that we were, and still are, a colonial power".
From what I've seen, the Idle No More campaign will no longer allow Aboriginals to be the canary in the cage. And until non-Aboriginal peoples also see themselves as treaty people, we will continue to be seen by our Aboriginal brothers and sisters as the colonizers. Isn't it time to change that?
Thanks, Idle No More, for a wonderful winter solstice. May we go forward together under two eagles.
Peter Lang
CUSP (Citizens United for a Sustainable Planet)
Kaministiquia, ON
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Pumpkin Sheet Cake
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16-ounce can pumpkin
2 cups sugar
1 cup vegetable oil
4 eggs, lightly beaten
2 cups all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons baking soda
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
1/2 teaspoon salt
3-ounce package cream cheese, softened
5 tablespoons butter, softened
1 teaspoon vanilla extract
1 3/4 cups confectioners sugar
3 to 4 teaspoons milk
chopped nuts, optional
In a large mixing bowl, beat pumpkin, sugar and oil. Add eggs; mix well. Combine flour, baking soda, cinnamon and salt; add to pumpkin mixture and beat until well blended. Pour into well greased 15 X 10-inch baking pan.
Bake at 350 degrees for 25-30 minutes or until cake tests done with a toothpick. Cool.
For frosting, beat cream cheese, butter and vanilla in a medium sized mixing bowl until smooth. Gradually add sugar and mix well. Add milk until frosting reaches desired spreading consistency. Frost cake. Sprinkle with walnuts if desired. 20-24 servings.
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Adventures To Go - PSP - Review
The life of a fantasy RPG hero is hard work. Forget having to fight horrific beasts and save the world from megalomaniacal wizards, and just consider the fact that they travel to every single location on their planet – usually on foot, no less. It's a wonder they've even got the energy to save the world, given that they've just hoofed it across three continents! Wouldn't it be simpler if a hero could quest through forests, mountains, caves, and dungeons, all without even having to leave their home town? Adventures to Go! gives us just that: an RPG where every quest is custom built to your specifications.
Hard economic times have hit the kingdom, but 16-year old Finn Courtland has come up with a foolproof plan for making some quick cash. See, there's a training facility in his hometown called Adventures To Go – for a fee, wizards will summon tracts of land filled with monsters, so would-be heroes can get some hands-on experience before setting out on a real-world quest. But Finn figures, why not just run through adventure simulations and sell the spoils for a profit?
While it seems like a no-brainer, apparently Finn is the first person to consider exploiting Adventures To Go for easy money.
Ok, so it's not the deepest or most original plot you've ever seen in an RPG (Spoiler Alert: eventually it's up to Finn to save the kingdom from an all-powerful evil force!), but at least it's pretty funny. Most of the humor comes from the side-characters you encounter, like the aging frat guy running the armor shop (who at one point declares his armor "worth droppin' some skrilla on") or Finn's sister, who runs him out of the house every morning with incessant nagging. Other jokes come from the characters' no-nonsense attitude toward RPG genre clichés – instead of silently listening to a kind old woman NPC prattle on about her son, Finn tells her to shut up because she's boring him.
Going on an adventure is pretty straightforward. After stopping by the Guild Office to pick up new jobs and requests, Finn and his party head over to Adventures To Go, which is set up like the fantasy version of a mall. Weapons, armor, magic, and item shops are lined up in a strip, so restocking your inventory and getting your hands on the latest equipment is a snap.
Getting your hands on new gear has rarely been so easy in an RPG before.
From there, you'll go to the Information Kiosk, where you can place your order for a custom-made quest. Here you'll pick what kind of landscape you'll be exploring (forest, plains, and so on), what kind of monsters will inhabit it, and whether or not you'll finish the adventure by conquering an underground labyrinth. You can add an unknown element to your quest if you use an Event Ticket, which could do anything from advance the storyline to generate an uber-powerful boss creature. Once you've worked your way through the day's adventure, you'll earn a completion bonus if you survived, then its back to the Guild to cash in any quest-solving items you found.
The actual adventuring part of the game consists of exploring each area and fighting monsters. Exploring's pretty simple, at least a first when you're stuck with mostly wide-open locales like badlands and plains, though as the game goes on you acquire new, more difficult terrain types. The only thing you're really looking for is the area's exit, but along the way you'll encounter black monoliths, which could have positive (free money!) or negative (severe damage!) effects. Each area is generated randomly every time you adventure, so even if you've run through the forest area before, you never know what you'll find the next time.
Battles occur randomly, but they aren't your standard RPG fights. Instead, combat play out like miniature turn-based strategy encounters. When you come upon enemies, a 6x6 grid is highlighted around your party and the enemy. Speed determines who acts first, and units take turns moving around the grid and attacking. To take combat actions you'll spend a character's AP, or action points; a character's turn isn't over as long as they have AP left. Every in-battle action has a different point cost, and while some actions (moving, attacking, and using items) are relatively straightforward, there are a few unique options at your command. Choosing Defend will end your turn immediately and give a defensive bonus until your next turn, whereas choosing Ambush will see your character prepare their weapon – should an enemy unit cross their path before the next turn you'll attack, dealing higher damage and depleting the enemy's AP.
Unspent AP rolls over to the next turn, so conserving AP is usually a sound strategy.
The battles are fast and the exploration is exciting, so at first the game's a lot of fun. Story events come rapid-fire for the first three hours or so, and do a good job of drawing you in to the world and its characters. Unfortunately, it's after this initial period that the game's flaws start becoming apparent. For starters, while dungeon areas are randomized, they're still far too similar from one time to the next. After you've explored a terrain a handful of times you'll become familiar with everything it has to show you.
Combat, too, starts to get a repetitive feel after the first few hours – which isn't helped by the fact that there's very little to differentiate your party's characters. Sure, some can use magic and others use long-range weapons (read: bows), but melee characters have no unique attacks or special moves. After a while, combat becomes a matter of surrounding the enemies in turn while wailing on them with standard attacks, while your mages rain magic down from a distance. Speaking of the game's magic system, it's overly complex (you combine crystal shards to create different spells, which must then be equipped before being usable) and poorly explained in-game, creating too much guesswork for the player.
I really enjoyed Adventures To Go! when I began – the tactical fights are quick and fun and the game's got a lighthearted vibe that was refreshing. But it soon became obvious that this is a game designed for quick bursts of play, not multi-hour sessions. Its unique combination of RPG exploration and strategic combat is definitely worth a try, but at the end of the day it's a better game in concept than it is in execution.
Gameplay: 6.8
ATG makes a great first impression: combat is quick and strategic, and dungeon exploration is randomized so each excursion is fun and exciting. Once you've put a few hours into the game, though, you'll realize you're doing pretty much the same things over and over again. It's fun in short bursts, but feels lacking over long periods of time.
Graphics: 7.2
The 2D character art that accompanies conversations is nice, and the in-game 3D isn't bad either, though it's not going to knock your socks off. Environments suffer from repetition, though – if you've seen one forest area, you've seen them all.
Sound: 6.9
The music is upbeat and energetic, but not particularly exciting or memorable. Sound effects serve their purpose without standing out, and there's no voice acting to speak of, unless you count grunts of pain when you get hit in combat.
Difficulty: Easy
Enemies aren't particularly smart in combat, so it's easy to out-maneuver them on the battlefield. Sometimes as part of an event you'll encounter a nasty boss significantly stronger than you are, but since there's little to no penalty for failure (you just go back to town, and can try again the next day) you can always grind for experience then try again.
Concept: 8.5
ATG has such a great concept that it initially feels like a much better game than it really is. The ability to custom craft a fantasy world to explore is liberating and fun, and does give you a good amount of freedom as to how you approach completing each quest. The funny, self-referential story is a nice touch, too.
Overall: 7.1
Adventures To Go! is a great idea brought down by a sloppy execution. With a little tweaking (better pacing, better explanations for in-game mechanics, more randomization and changes from one adventure to the next) a sequel could definitely be a must-play. As it stands, though, it's just a quirky diversion between more substantial RPG fare.


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Figure 4.9 is a U.S. map showing percentages reporting perceptions of great risk of smoking one or more packs of cigarettes per day among persons aged 12 or older, by State, for 2002. States listed here in alphabetical order within each group were divided into five groups based on the magnitude of their percentages. States in the highest group (72.86 to 77.12 percent) were California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Florida, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Rhode Island, and Utah. States in the next highest group (70.60 to 72.85 percent) were Arizona, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Kansas, Maryland, Oregon, and Texas. States in the mid group (68.39 to 70.59 percent) were Alaska, Illinois, Maine, Michigan, Montana, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Vermont, Virginia, and Washington. States in the next lowest group (66.66 to 68.38 percent) were Alabama, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. States in the lowest group (62.63 to 66.65 percent) were Arkansas, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Tennessee.
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They call it a "Miracle Berry." It can trick your taste buds. It turns sour foods sweet and vice versa. It's called the "goji berry" and some chefs say it may be a natural weight loss tool.
FOX 5 Medical Team reporter, Beth Galvin, took a trip to Three Sheets Restaurant in Sandy Springs for a "flavor trip." Flavor tripping is performed when you swish a goji berry around you mouth before eating, both, sweet and sour foods to "trip up" your taste buds.
Chef Philip Osbourn of Three Sheets says the fruit comes from West Africa and that the fruit only produces one berry each.
The goji berry contains a protein that binds to taste receptors on your tongue and confuses your brain into thinking everything you eat is sweet.
However, Dr. Robert Shewfelt of the University of Georgia's School of Food Science isn't convinced goji berry is all that "miraculous." In fact, as a sweetener the berry isn't even FDA-approved and it's not heat-stable, so cooking with the berry isn't safe.
According to Shewfelt, Japanese scientists have been studying the berry as a natural sweetener but there is no definitive evidence of weight loss, at this time.
The berries can be purchased from suppliers in Miami and Puerto Rico and they must be kept refrigerated. They're about $3 a piece.
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A dad of two teenagers, Dwight Garner, wrote a column for The New York Times about his quest to reign in and understand his teens' electronics use. He and his wife have struggled with realistic, enforceable limits for teens of the app generation. So here are the books he checked out and his conclusions.
"This year it occurred to me we needed help. So I sat down with three new books that offer assistance, understanding and quasi-epic subtitles. They are: "The Big Disconnect: Protecting Childhood and Family Relationships in the Digital Age," by Catherine Steiner-Adair with Teresa H. Barker; "The Distraction Addiction: Getting the Information You Need and the Communication You Want, Without Enraging Your Family, Annoying Your Colleagues, and Destroying Your Soul," by Alex Soojung-Kim Pang; and "The App Generation: How Today's Youth Navigate Identity, Intimacy, and Imagination in a Digital World," by Howard Gardner and Katie Davis. (I read an advance copy of this last one; it won't be published until October.)"
Garner says that 'The Big Disconnect," the author wants parents to look at their own behavior first. Are they on their phones all the time looking for the next email, text or tweet? The book argues that it seems to our kids everyone else matters before them.
The author of the column did like this speech in "The Big Disconnect," but he's not sure how much it will help. (I do think it's a good speech.)
"This is not your computer — I know it has your name on it, but this is my computer (or your school's computer). I'm your parent, and I reserve the right to see everything that's going on there. You need to be on the computer in an open place. I have the right to know what your homework assignment is. You can't be in your room with the door closed. You can't take it to bed with you. You can't collapse a screen when I walk by. We have a code of conduct and we expect you to stick with it: Don't be mean, don't lie, don't embarrass other people, don't pretend to be someone you're not, don't go places you're not allowed to go. Don't post pictures that Grandma wouldn't love. Don't do anything I wouldn't approve of."
For the second book "The Distraction Addiction," Garner says the author doesn't want kids to unplug entirely. He just wants for them to find a balance. (I think I would agree with this guy: moderation in all that you do.)
"His first seven chapters are titled: Breathe, Simplify, Meditate, Deprogram, Experiment, Refocus and Rest. In one of my favorite locutions of 2013, he suggests that it is possible to go about "tweeting mindfully."
Garner doesn't give much insight into the third book. I guess the summary would be that the authors see upsides and downsides to the "app-driven life."
"The App Generation," by Howard Gardner and Katie Davis, is a slab of groaning sociology that nonetheless possesses an interesting insight. "Young people growing up in our time are not only immersed in apps," the authors write, "they've come to think of the world as an ensemble of apps, to see their lives as a string of ordered apps, or perhaps, in many cases, a single, extended, cradle-to-grave app."
My favorite part of the article is when Garner describes threatening his kids with "the Full Amish" — meaning no electronics at all. (No disrespect to the Amish – I just think it's a very vivid image.)
I think the comments to the article were almost more interesting than the article itself. It's real parents discussing the role electronics play and how you can integrate them without being controlled by them.
So what is your theory of how your kids should live with electronics? What are your rules? Do they change for school year VS summer? Would you read any of these books for guidance?
August 19th, 2013
5:28 am
We have never read a book about this and do not plan to. Our 2 teens each have a laptop and a smart phone. At 9 PM on school nights, smart phones are turned off and put in a basket on the counter. That includes phones for parents as well. Computers are turned off and stored at 10 PM or earlier if homework is finished. No one, parent or teen, is allowed to check phones during any meal time. If one or both teens are out in the evenings then phones are turned off and dropped in the basket on their return. Ours are turned off when they return. (FYI—we still have a landline in the house.) We allow more time on the weekends. There is no discussion and little flexibility. We simply are not letting technology control our lives. Since we made these rules a condition of the phone and computer purchases our teens accept the responsibility. Certainly they try to get around it, but the consequences are swift. No phone for a specific period of time and the computer used only for classwork and the usage is in the family room. No threats or warning, simply a punishment that they were warned about when they got the technology. In the two years since the phones entered their lives we have only taken a phone away from one twice and the other has not lost the privilege yet.
August 19th, 2013
6:42 am
One of the newer "Twilight Zone" episodes had an interesting take on technology in general. Probably my favorite episode out of all the ones Rod Serling didn't introduce.
August 19th, 2013
6:50 am
I will never understand the need for a book to parent your kids. You paid for the phones, you are paying the bill, it's your rules! If they don't like it, then they can a job and pay their own I am the parent! I get to make the rules.
August 19th, 2013
7:36 am
But if I discipline, my kid won't be my bestie! Then what???/
August 19th, 2013
7:57 am
Pathetic. Stupid kids are the products of stupid parents. Be a parent first, not a friend, If you need a book for that, you've already failed.
August 19th, 2013
8:01 am
Don't plant to read the books.
I have to have all passwords. I will be checking to make sure they work. I will monitor the "traffic" in the electronics.
They have been "busted" for failure to follow the rules on occasion.
@ Mayhem, the book I read on Single Parenting (I forget who wrote it) was actually helpful. It was not so much on how to parent, as to do it all alone. I do however get what you are saying.
August 19th, 2013
8:21 am
"It's my way or the higway."
Until they choose the highway, and then you're left wondering where you went wrong.
Clearly Mayhem you never had a child with a rebellious independent nature. If my parents had said, "Not under my roof!" They'd have gotten a swift "Eff your roof and the four walls holding it up."
I left home as an 18 year-old and never returned as it was. Ultimatum's would have just expedited that.
Authority without reasoning has never settled well with me. Still doesn't.
Talk to you kids. Explain why you want to know what's going on. Conversation goes a long way.
August 19th, 2013
8:26 am
You have to figure out a balance that works for you and your kids. We aren't big TV watchers and our son was never into video games so we tended to allow more smartphone time.
My #1 recommendation though is not to stick your head in the sand and assume your kids are behaving themselves on social media. Get an account, be their "friend" or "follower", ask your friends to as well (and don't be mad if they tattle on junior), get their passwords, and generally be involved in what they're doing. Too many parents say, "Oh I'm not getting on Twitter and neither are my kids." Ya, well, I got news for you: yes they are and so are their friends. Don't be afraid of technology because you don't 'get it'.
August 19th, 2013
8:57 am
Clear expectations and consquences. Social behavior is not the same as it used to be. I wish I could say PUT YOUR PHONE AWAY when I am in a restaurant and everyone is on their phone. My own two kids know: no electronics at the dinner table.
@ Mayhem: WHAT DOES THIS MEAN:
I will never understand the need for a book to parent your kids.
Would that more people would read up on perhaps one of the most important jobs they will every have!
Why do people read books…perhaps to learn things. I read this blog to learn things too! Every parent is a parent for the first time and how could you possibly know how to do something you have never done before? Every child is different. You may have ideas and they may work but NO ONE knows it all. I have read some parenting books that ( to me) were silly but some had great ideas. I appreciate others who might have ideas I do not know.
I read the AJC yesterday and there was a section on St.Augustine. We have been there a dozen times and love it. They mentioned a restaurant I had NO idea about. Glad I was open to reading.
As parent, we did lay the groundwork that we were paying the bills and thus got to make the rules. But ( having read this in a book and studied it in my education classes) there are 3 ( now 4 with hands off) types of parenting: authoritarian parenting does not typically have the best outcome: "The Authoritarian parent usually has a history of an unhappy childhood. This type of person may have been anxious and withdrawn as a child, and learned to have poor reactions to frustration. As an adult, this person reacts by showing that he can control something in his life: his child."
My parents used this style…my way or the highway. When I took Child and other Psychology, I read a lot of books. This was before I was a parent and I learned a lot. I still read and research things. I also check in with people whom I respect and pick their brains about things I do not know.
August 19th, 2013
9:25 am
Jarvis- Yeah that was and still is me. I was always 'the highway.'
For example: My parents refused to get a computer. I finally got tired of having to beg teachers to take a hand written paper when I couldn't make it to the library to type it up on the computers there. (They wouldn't let me drive until my senior year and I lived outside walking distance to a library) I got a job and paid for a computer and internet access.
My parents had a cow obviously because I circumvented their rules. They didn't care about anything I was having to deal with but just that I had to follow the rules they set up. Needless to say we don't have the best relationship given their attitude and their refusal to understand they can't dictate my life as an adult.
August 19th, 2013
3:17 pm
So what is your theory of how your kids should live with electronics?
As with many things around here, electronics are acceptable in moderation.
What are your rules? Here are our basic rules:
- No plugging in until after all business (chores, homework etc.) is taken care of.
- Computers must be used in open spaces and no going on the Internet without express permission.
- No FB, Instagram or other social media sites to date. We're open to the kids getting accounts eventually; but, they have to be earned and excellent time management skills must be demonstrated prior to getting them.
- All electronic devices (cell phones, Kindle, iPod etc.) are kept in a box on my dresser each night, i.e. no devices may be kept in kids' rooms overnight. They have to be "checked in" by a certain time each night.
- No TV during the school week. My son needs to have his TV monitored on the weekends; hence, he gets 3 "tv tickets." Each ticket is redeemable for 30 minutes of viewing.
- We have basic Internet safety rules (no giving out personal information, no chatting with strangers, don't open mail from people you don't know etc.).
Do they change for school year VS summer?
Yes, only that we do "No TV" every June — LOVE it! The rest of the rules stay the same.
Would you read any of these books for guidance?
Yes, all three sound interesting or at least as if they're worth a read.
August 19th, 2013
3:20 pm
One more BIG rule: I must know EVERY password — no exception. If I try to open a device/account and the password is changed, consider the device mine/the account gone.
August 19th, 2013
3:25 pm
Another rule….When my kids' company is over or riding in the car with us, NO PLUGGING IN! That is a pet peeve of mine. Face-to-face interaction is encouraged. Why bother having company if each person is going to be plugged in on his/her own device???
August 19th, 2013
4:17 pm
@Sk8ing….love this: Why bother having company if each person is going to be plugged in on his/her own device???
I often wonder why people sit in restaurants and everyone is glued to their own phone!
August 19th, 2013
6:38 pm
…what kind of books do you not want planted?LOL