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'Apple Fest Family Fun Day'
Come celebrate the local apple harvest from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. Oct. 27 at Whole Foods Market in Annapolis Towne Centre, 200 Harker Place. Free pie tins to the first 200 guests, hot apple cider samples, free recipe cards and caramel-apple making are among the included activities. All are welcome. Information: 410-266-5761.
Tax season
Volunteers are needed to assist with the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance Program to help seniors and low-income adults with their 2012 tax returns. Participants will be trained by the IRS and the Maryland Comptroller's Office. They will help only with simple 2012 income tax returns, which will be filed electronically. Volunteers do not do tax returns involving partnerships or corporations, self-employed persons or rental properties. Volunteers are not required to have a financial background, but certified public accountants, attorneys, bookkeepers and those with financial training are encouraged to volunteer. Volunteers will be stationed at one of the county's senior activity centers and will be available by appointment between Feb. 4 and April 5. For more information, call 410-222-6717.
Maryland 3D Basketball will hold tryouts for boys in grades 6-8 from 9 a.m. to 11 a.m. Sunday, Oct. 14 and 28 at the Severn School, 201 Water St. in Severna Park. Registration is available online at maryland3dbasketball.com. For information, call David Thurston at 443-324-0850.
'Gone Country'
Fort Meade's first "Meade's Gone Country" takes place from 6 p.m. to 11 p.m. at the Conference Center on Fort Meade. The event features line dancing, mechanical bull riding, contests and prizes, music and a whiskey bar featuring specialty drinks. Food and beverages are available for purchase. No cover charge. Must be 18 or older. For directions and more information, call 301-677-7785.
Annual cocktail benefit
The sixth annual Saints and Sinners Cocktail Party, hosted by The Arc Central Chesapeake Region, will take place from 7 p.m. to 11 p.m. Friday, Oct. 19 at the Powerhouse at the Loews Annapolis Hotel, 126 West St. The event features live music by Eddie Pasa, Tom Lagana and SNAFU. Appetizers, desserts, beer, wine, soft drinks and signature cocktails are included in the ticket price. Proceeds benefit children and adults with developmental and intellectual disabilities. Tickets are $80 per person; $750 for a group of 10. Information: 410-990-1900 or thearcccr.org.
'The Story of Luis Hane: Holocaust Survivor'
The Anne Arundel Genealogical Society presents a program by Luis Hane at 7:30 p.m. Nov. 1 at Severna Park United Methodist Church, 731 Benfield Road. Refreshments and networking follow the presentation. Free. Information: 410-760-9679 or aagensoc.org.
'Annual Halloween Party'
A costume party with candy, refreshments, dancing and a costume contest, sponsored by the Student Association Campus Activities Board, will be held from 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. Oct. 26 in AACC's Student Union dining hall, 101 College Parkway in Arnold. Free. Information: 410-777-2218 or aacc.edu/studentlife/cab.
The annual Cardinal Gibbons Bull Roast & "Friend" raiser event will be held from 7 p.m. to 11 p.m. Nov. 17 at Leadership Through Athletics, 2900 Hammonds Ferry Road in Lansdowne. Proceeds will used for needs-based scholarships for local students. Cost is $45 per person. For tickets and more information, call 410-744-0900.
Voter's Guide
Two versions of the Voters' Guide for the 2012 general election, prepared by the League of Women Voters, are available on the Internet. The guide is a nonpartisan tool voters can use to evaluate the candidates and issues on this year's ballot, which includes seven statewide questions and 15 county charter amendment proposals. The interactive electronic version can be accessed through vote411.org. The site also provides information about districts, polling places, early voting and absentee ballots. The complete Voters' Guide for Anne Arundel County is also available for online viewing and PDF download at aa.lwvmd.org. Limited copies of the print version are expected to be available at county senior centers and libraries next week.
Haunted house
The Bowie Baysox and Tulip Gulch have opened the gates to the Doomsday Asylum Haunted House. This new attraction runs Fridays-Saturdays this month as well as Monday-Wednesday, Oct. 29-31. The show features more than 30 actors, special effects and props, and takes approximately 20 minutes to walk through. The Asylum is rated PG-13; parental discretion is strongly advised. The show takes place indoors, and all dates are open — rain or shine. Gates open at 6:30 p.m., and tours run from sundown to 11 p.m. Tickets are $15 when ordered online in advance; $17 at the door. For tickets, directions and more information, go to baysox.com.


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Breathing life back into a carburetion line
After a brief hiatus, plans are moving ahead rapidly to revive the popular Demon Carburetion and BG Fuel Systems brands. This new business will be run by a fresh team of race and performance enthusiasts that is committed to bringing you high quality products... more
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Moventure Heads West
Today was hot and humid. The humidity up here is even beyond what we have in Oklahoma, add to that the 100 degree temps, and it is just plain awful. We started the day by driving to an indoor skate park. The layout was cool, but it was inside without... more
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MoVenture Day 2
The MoVenture started with a quick race to the Field Museum in Chicago on the shore line of Lake Michigan. It was here that we learned Team Orange managed to take the top spot in points for day 1. We were awarded with $500 in Mopar parts and accessories... more
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MoVenture in Minny
Today was brutal. We headed out of the hotel to the Crandon International Off-Road Speedway for a Traxxas RC truck race challenge. The winner got 100 points (2 heats, worth a total of 200 points) and a high-powered ride in the TORC pace truck. Somehow... more
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How far would YOU drive for a '65?
The winner of the 23rd Annual Classic Corvette Giveaway benefiting Saint Bernard Parish and School in Rockport, Indiana drove over 870 miles to claim his prize; a rally red 1965 Corvette Convertible valued at over $75,000.00. Along with a cousin... more
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The crews have arrived to get MoVenture underway. Jefferson and chris are Team Orange, but their vehicle is black (with an orange flag). The adventure started at the Chrysler museum, which gave the guys a chance to wander back through the history of the... more
By Larry Jewett - July 18, 2011 04:04 PM - Comments
Mo Moventure
MoVenture Day 1 The first actual day of the rally began with a quick run (basically two blocks) from the hotel to the Chrysler Museum where all the teams traded their keys for a set of keys to a brand new Chrysler 300C. Each car had a CD on... more
By Larry Jewett - July 18, 2011 04:02 PM - Comments
Win A Trip to SEMA
Royal Purple has launched two contests that will send three lucky winners to the SEMA show Nov. 1- 4. Courtesy of Royal Purple, two winners will have the opportunity to show off their rides as feature vehicles, and one winner will attend the show to take... more
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Racing Legends
The Quarter Mile Foundation secured interviews of 16 East Coast drag racing legends at the 10th Annual Musclecar Madness at the York Reunion (US 30 Dragway) on July 8-9, 2011. The interviews covered some of the stars of the formative years of the sport... more
By Larry Jewett - July 15, 2011 03:31 PM - Comments
Jeep Pick-up
Jeep enthusiasts now have the opportunity to transform their four-door Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited into a two-door pickup truck.... more
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EVERETT—Byron Scherf, accused of the murder of Corrections Officer Jayme Biendl, refused to enter a plea during his court appearance in Snohomish County Wednesday.
Scherf's defense attorney entered a not guilty plea for him. The not guilty plea means that this case will go to trial; prosecuting attorney Mark Roe has said he will seek the death penalty if Scherf is found guilty.
Last month, Scherf admitted to killing Biendl earlier this year. He told investigators at the time that he was angry with Biendl over a conversation the two had at the Monroe Correctional Complex where Scherf is serving a life sentence under Washington state's three strikes law.
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The good folks at the Dearborn Animal shelter say when"Victory" arrived at the shelter earlier this year she was clearly a special girl. Having a congenital birth defect which left her with short, stub-like front legs, she bore a slight resemblance to a miniature kangaroo according to some observers. She quickly became known in the media as the "kangaroo dog" and landed local celebrity status.This little red coated Chihuahua mix had a sweet demeanor and enduring spirit that stole the hearts of many at the shelter as well as those who came to visit her.
The staff decided that she deserved a noble name that was as optimistic as her daily attitude, so she was called Victory. Elaine Greene, Executive Director, Friends For the Dearborn Animal Shelter said, "We initially needed to observe how she managed with her current limitations, then determine if she had any other health conditions that could impact how we proceeded. Those results proved to be favorable."
Given an otherwise clean bill of health, Victory would need to be outfitted with costly prosthetics to gain more mobility like a normal dog. Multiple stages of specialty prosthetics are in the prescription.
OrthoPets located in Denver Colorado heard about Victory because of her media attention and generously offered to custom build and donate the prosthetics. They have guided her through the initial two stages.
The first was a sled-like apparatus to slowly acclimate her to accurate body position and movement of the device.
Second is a 4-wheel cart she is currently using. Once Victory is proficient with her wheels, the plan is to reduce the number of wheels anywhere from 3 to 1 to afford her added mobility. Greene, who is also Victory's adoptive "mom" continued, "She is pretty fearless and took quickly to the wheels. She sometimes needs a leash to slow her down when we take her outside".
Dr. Joyce Belnave of Water Gait Veterinary Rehabilitation oversees Victory's progress adapting to the new devices and she encourages Greene to let Victory explore with her wheeled technology.
Adhering to doctor's orders, this little Chihuahua mix has made several trips to a nearby senior living community where she has become a favorite visitor of the residents, especially those that have mobility issues of their own.
The Dearborn Animal Shelter helps Victory and other special needs animals that come through its doors through the Hope's Heroes program, which is designed to provide care for extraordinary needs animals.
Learn more about adoption, events, volunteering or donating online:
The Dearborn Animal Shelter is located at 2661 Greenfield Road, Dearborn, and is operated by the Friends For the Dearborn Animal Shelter, a 501C3 nonprofit organization.
Main phone (313) 943-2697 and on the web www.DearbornAnimals.org, you can follow the Shelter on Facebook or Twitter.
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Official DNR maps record the length of the Pine at 59.2 river miles stretching from Pine Mountain Lake in Backus, all the way to the Mississippi. Each stretch of the river has a different personality, some are narrow with bogs, some wide with sand and gravel bottoms. The river has a lot of unused potential.
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Gyles Brandreth investigates the mystery of three thousand missing teddy bears, the first ever made.
Three thousand teddy bears went missing in 1903, supposedly en route for New York from their native Germany. Bear expert and storyteller-par-excellence Gyles Brandreth attempts to discover what really happened to these earliest toy bears.
In 1902 the first ever toy bear was designed in Germany by Richard Steiff: Bär 55 PB, a lifelike bear with joints, a humped back and a snout. A New York toy company placed an order at the Leipzig Toy Fair in 1903 for three thousand of the bears - a novelty - to be ready in time for the Christmas market. The bears were made and packed up for shipment, but there is no record of them reaching their destination and none of this load of US-bound bears has ever been found. The templates, patterns and even photos of this bear exist but not even one sample was kept. One popular explanation is that there was a shipwreck and the bears had a watery end. All that is certain is that if one of these bears turned up now it would be 'open chequebook' time for certain museums and collectors.
Witty, magical and heart-warming, the documentary reveals fascinating detail behind the making of the bears, including a trip to the Steiff factory and a riffle through their detailed archives, as Gyles delights us with this little-known story, and imagines where water-logged bears might have washed up.
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Figure 12 is titled "Reasons for Not Receiving Treatment among Persons Aged 12 or Older Who Needed But Did Not Receive Treatment and Felt They Needed Treatment: 2003." It is a bar graph, where the horizontal axis represents the percentage reporting a reason, and the vertical axis represents reasons for not receiving treatment.
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If you have NEVER been to Africa, when someone mentions "Africa" or you hear "Africa", what is the FIRST thing that comes into your mind?
People associate different regions/continent based on media, informational material, myths, stereotypes and such. The main idea of this discussion is to find out what people who never had "first hand experience" think about the continent. Thanks for your contribution.
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Apr 8 2013: Hello Mary! Yes, and Brazilians should also learn more about Africans to realize how African we are, and that's a lot more than just an influence, but the core and the best of Brazilian culture. For example, the so worldwide acclaimed Brazilian music such as samba, bossa nova, and their variations, were all built on African drums, not to mention many other rhythms played all around the country, specially in the state of Bahia on the Northeast. Of course, there are other sources of influences, but none of them can be compared to African's contribution in terms of culture and mood. Yes, I hope you'll really make plans to visit Brazil, but I wouldn't recommend you to do it during the soccer world cup period as everything will crowded, expensive and too focused on soccer matches. If I were you, I'd plan to come in other times so that you'd have the chance to get to know the country as it really is over normal day-by-day living. ***** My experience in USA and Canada was very very fortunate, a time of learning many things, including English, time to performing with musicians from all over the world, and many other great things I could spend a day remarking. "Listen" ... if you ever come to Brazil, please remember to let me know. I live in the city of Belo Horizonte, capital of the state of Minas Gerais, and I'd be very glad to meet you, and/or even host you at home. Ok? Don't forget it! Please take a break to feel my tight friendly hug! Take care! Gerdson
Apr 10 2013: Hey Gerdson,
Thanks for the insights about the Africa and Brazil similiarities..I see the sense in visiting non soccer period (Thanks for the advice and head up).....I just love the way Brazilian dance to traditional music...all crowned with colorful outfit and head gears....the women are specially amazing.....I am glad you enjoyed USA and Canada....I would more than glad to listen to your experiences when we meet....."only mountains never meet". Thanks for willing to meet with me on my visit..I will definitely let you know once I plan....I am taking the friendly hug and preserving it to keep me warm.....thanks so much
Love, Mary
Apr 11 2013: Gerdson:
It's interesting to see that there is also a feedback from Brazil to Africa, with some of those complex rhythms
modifying native African music. This link to a Ugandan band might be of interest to you:
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"Since 2008, nearly 200 religious facilities have been foreclosed on by banks, up from eight during the previous two years and virtually none in the decade before that." We'll tastefully omit the gloating and obvious theological jokes. [WSJ. Photo via]
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Last month, I put myself on a self-imposed sabbatical to recover from pneumonia and exhaustion. My doctor felt that my habit of working 70 or more hours a week was too much for a 64-year old man.
At the same time, the editor of Capitol Hill Blue established a set of new guidelines for posting comments to news stories and commentary. I did not review those guidelines until this past weekend.
In my opinion, the guidelines were too restrictive and the decision to place some posters on a "permanent" moderation status was an over-reaction to some of the problems that have arisen with some comments posted to stories.
Since I own the place, my opinion usually prevails when it comes to editorial decisions and the revised guidelines have been rescinded. I am re-assuming the role as editor of Capitol Hill Blue along with my duties as publisher and an occasional writer of articles and columns.
Does this mean commentators are free to say whatever they want? Not necessarily. I'm asking those who comment on stories to stick to issues, avoid attacks on each other and to avoid sounding like teenagers trying to outdo each other with cute insults.
It was also suggested that I have outright bans on links to certain web sites. Posters are free to cite sources that they feel validate their arguments. If I — or another poster — feels those sources are bogus they — or I — have the right to question the source and cite our reasons. I draw the line at links to dedicated white supremacist and racist web sites or those that openly advocate bigotry but I have not seen any links to such sites in a long time so that issue is probably moot.
Our goal here is open discussion on issues but not a free-for-all on insults or personal attacks. If I feel a poster is out of line, I will tell them so.
Please understand this: The only person who speaks for me is me. The only person authorized to speak for me is me. No one has the authority to do anything in my name or to represent me.
If I write something for this web site (or any other web site, publication or broadcast entity for that matter), it will have my name on it. Articles written by others appear under their names. Articles provided by news services are identified as such.
The only place where names are not used as a matter of policy are the comments posted by those who choose — for whatever reason — to use anonymous "handles" rather than their own names. I would hope that posters have enough courage in their convictions to present opinions under their actual names but the Internet has become a vast wasteland of anonymous bomb throwers.
The time may come when all posters to this web site are required to register and comment under their names but — at this time — we do not have the resources to establish such a system. Using social media — such as Facebook — as a filter for comments is one possibility but no decision has been made on that front nor is one anticipated for the near future.
As for the staff, the floggings shall continue until morale improves.
So enough talk about rules. This is an important election year. Let's get back to business.
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Doug, as you must be aware of I have very strong feelings about anonymity on comment enabled boards. I'm old enough to remember that before the existence of the internet public debate involved introductions or the shaking of hands in courtesy before any honest discussion began. With the advent of the net its anonymous nature and total lack of accountability, honest discussion has been lost. Anonymity enables an individual to behave irresponsibly with impunity without incurring any of the social costs that would ordinarily accrue to those who behaved that way in public. How is anonymous posting any different then that of the graffiti posted on a bathroom stall?
I have been posting comments using my real name since back in the early 80's on dialup message boards, was a regular poster back in the days of CompuServe and to this day the World Wide Web using my real sir name without fear. Over my many years posting comments online I have witnessed the quickening death of human dignity. Anonymity seems to offer a cheap and easy way to speak out against authority when in reality it is ineffectual and may ultimately prove to be very costly. If the nature of online anonymity continues to flourish it will certainly bring on the breakdown of the fabric of our society. In fact as I've seen over these many years it is well on its way in doing so.
Requiring commenter's to use real names would in my opinion promote civil discourse and help to stop this growing anti-social behavior widely seen on the net. Accountability lies at the very heart of our democratic tradition and I feel it crucial to the continued stability of our free and fair society. History is made by those brave enough to speak out despite any personal risk, it does not come from those who wish to hide behind anonymity.
Welcome back Doug.
Spring will be early in your neck of the woods, thanks to global warming, and soon you'll be out on the Harley.
I appreciate the illustration with this column since it depicts yours truly (fifth from the left between Phil Hoskins and Rob Kezelis).
As you know my reemergence into the world of the living has been marked by my more frequent comments on CHB. Most of my comments either are an attempt to expand on what is in the article or column or to present my own opinion.
In the former category I will add the following from the website where I think you found the 1879 Edward Shippen public domain flogging drawing:
"The master-at-arms [assisted the prisoner] off with his shirt, leaving him naked to the waist, but throwing the garment loosely over his shoulders. Removing the port gangway ladder, his wrists were made fast, with a lashing, to the brass man-rope eyebolts, and his ankles to a small grating laid on the deck. Thus standing straight up, his arms were stretched considerably above his head. The assistant surgeon then stepped up close on one side of the man to see that the punishment was not excessive. The boatswain had, in the mean time, produced a green baize bag, which contained the 'cats.' These consisted of a wooden handle, about fifteen inches long, covered with cloth, with nine tails of white line about as thick as thick pack-cord, twenty inches long, and the ends 'whipped,' not knotted. One of these cats was handed to the chief boatswain's mate, who was mildly cautioned by the captain to 'do his duty, and not favor the man, or he would be triced up himself.' …At this the master-at-arms removed the blue shirt, and [the] boatswain's mate swung round and brought the 'cats' down across the man's shoulders, the master-at-arms called out, aloud, 'One – two,' and so on, until 'twelve,' when the captain said, 'Stop. Take him down.'" Quotation and illustration from Edward Shippen, Thirty Years at Sea; the Story of a Sailor's Life, 1879. Sea Service Discipline
If you ever decide that you need a master-at-arms to assist you with the floggings, consider this my application. You already are familiar with my curriculum vita.
Mr. Cravener, in today's world the equivalent of a handshake is an invitation to accept viruses, denial of the use if my "home", inspection of every aspect of my personal life, spam, etc, etc, etc.
As long as I keep my comments civil I also will keep my anonanymity.
To reiterate what I wrote elsewhere on CHB, I believe there is a significant tradeoff when you post under a pseudonym instead of your own name. No matter how cogent and compelling your comment is, you will add credibility if people not only know who you are, but can, if they choose, search for verification of your bona fides online.
I have chosen to become so public that if you search my name and hometown of Middleboro you can find my life story. (In the early days I shared the first ten online search results with only two others with the name Hal Brown.)
When search engines began and I was, like Bill, using CompuServe via a dial-up connection, posting on various websites. I mostly posted on what was then a community of New York Times forum regulars who all were familiar with each other. I even visited one of them, Elaine Supkis, a five hour drive from near Boston to eastern upstate New York. She now has her own website "Culture of Life News".
I would support Doug if he decides to require the use of real names because I believe that in the day and age of media saturation from the Internet to 24/7 cable news the courage to publicly stand up for you convictions is important. The most recent example of course is Sandra Fluke.
We need, as "little people" to be able to speak truth to power. The Internet enables us to do this, and to make the best use of this ability we need to use our own names.
Welcome back! Give that one remaining lung a break.
Mark Twain would be proud…
I did… and at the time it was apropos.
What seems clear, now and perhaps yesterday, was that you likely didn't craft the new "rules of engagement," much like the last iteration of "bringing the miscreants to task," when you also had to disabuse Mr. Thomason of his newfound, self-assumed right to flog the troops. Improper actions were recalled.
Importantly, not just your ownership of CHB, but your understanding of what journalism portends is critical to these events. There is no need to remind that journalism is rooted in the tenets of the First Amendment, that those who would censor for miniscule reasons or undeserved advantage would do damage to its legacy, and that professionals like yourself are exactly such because of the heartfelt adherence you have brought to those principles. A Beacon, while lesser lights glow dimly.
This understanding came through in your follow-on piece the other day in which you lamented the state of politics, described your newfound need to return to your journalistic roots, and suggested that attending to local issues would make you happy above whatever CHB was now providing. Not hard to imagine… but as has become clear on more occasions than this one, your natural "reach" is larger than that… your purpose more.
So here we are… reset to another day… Doug's leading his pack, which has fallen back in line. The miscreants are restored to their musings… some of them too would censor to achieve advantage… often deliriously in the name of "freedom". The lesson is that some can lead, while some must follow, and you see it's not too hard to sort out why.
So, yes, Mark Twain would be proud… but, lest it seem like I've gone gushy with my rosy analysis… we both know something will soon come along on which we can't see eye to eye.
I'm glad you're feeling better.
This is a test to see if my words are still "awaiting moderation." I tried to delete the offending try at humor but even my try for deletion was awaiting moderation.
As far as writing under my own name. I got an email years ago based on a commentary I wrote for Etherzone and it made it to Google where it was picked up by the state of Vermont where they wanted to use my information for their Brochure introducing Hospice in that state.
I stand by what I write but if I am rejected by any owner of any site, I will do it with dignity. I will be pissed but in a dignified manner.
Love ya Doug
To Repeat a post I made in response to Bill Cravener in ReaderRant:
Inherent in the protections afforded by the First Amendment is the right to speak anonymously in diverse manners.
I believe that everyone is aware that this right has been a long tradition of American advocates speaking anonymously through pseudonyms, such as James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, and John Jay, who authored the Federalist Papers but signed them only as "Publius."
Benjamin Franklin and other great thinkers have been published under assumed names. The first amendment to the US constitution recognizes its importance and grants substantial protection to anonymous speech.
In fact, the issue of anonymity has been in the courts for sometime. The follow is a list of just the few cases that's brought some light as to where the judicial standpoint is:
Dendrite Int'l, Inc. v. Doe No. 3, 775 A.2d 756 (N.J. App. 2001). Plaintiff must make an effort to notify the anonymous poster that he or she is the subject of a subpoena or application for a disclosure order, and give a reasonable time for the poster to file opposition; must set forth the specific statements that are alleged to be actionable; and must produce sufficient evidence to state a prima facie cause of action. If this showing is made, the court balances the strength of that prima facie case against the defendant's First Amendment right to speak anonymously before deciding whether to quash the subpoena.
Doe v. Cahill, 884 A.2d 451 (Del. Supr. 2005). Plaintiff seeking identity of an anonymous poster must support his underlying claim with facts sufficient to defeat a summary judgment motion.
McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Comm'n, 514 U.S. 334 (1995). Recognizing that anonymous speech is part of an "honorable tradition of advocacy and dissent."
I enjoy the right to free speech. And yes – I even enjoy it without the expectation that I have the right to be heard.
Why would anybody go to sites that makes one feel that other people who participate on that site blatantly doesn't care about accountability. Or doesn't support having an environment where the requirement for some level of having respectful discourse is mandated through the site rules. Or going to a that site fails to facilitate a reasonable sense of fair play by those who participate?
We are in CHB by CHOICE, not FORCE.
This site doesn't tolerate outrageous anarchy by a poster to has the need self-will-run riot for the purpose of verbally abusing or violating others rights who voice their opinions that are within the rules made by the owner of this site.
So in the spirit of an honorable tradition of advocacy and dissent – I disagree with Bill's "opinion" about anonymity on the Internet…or elsewhere.
To Repeat a post I made in response to Bill Cravener in ReaderRant:
I'm sorry, I must have missed your post over at RR. What pseudonymous handle do you use over there?
How about somebody addressing my point about having more credibility if you post with your real name.
My post regarding Bill's comments on anonymity…my comments is the very same in responding to yours Hal.
It is YOUR opinion as to the outcome of what the Internet would be like if real names were somehow mandatory.
I recently read an article that stated that there are more people on the Internet who post under a false name, which appears to be real – than the number of people who post under handles.
So I'm so assume that if I showed my name as Gregg Brown, you'd automatically have more credence in my post as opposed to just Gregg, which is my real name, by-the-way? And of course Gregg Brown is not my real name.
Under most circumstances. Participating in forums similar to this – you don't have a clue who is displaying a real name. But yet, you'll belief them to be more accountable, more honest, have more integrity if a name "looks real". Gezzzzzz.
In other words,
You are simply assuming to know how ALL people on the Internet will respond (regarding accountability, honesty…etc) to posts made, which are underscored by a digital name appearing on a screen. Your opinion in this matter is bordering on mysticism…in my opinion.
If Doug does REQUIRE real names, then you won't be assuming that I will no longer come to this site. It is a fact…
I addressed it and added why I use my real name. The problem may have been that I was monitored therefore my words were held for approval.
I'm with you, kid.
I agree that posting a real name underscores the writer's credibility.
In my opinion the majority of anonymous commentators wouldn't dare to post their comments if they had to use their real names.
Well Hal, I would say that posting your real name affords you no more credibility with me than if you posted under the moniker Mickey Mouse. I don't know you even though you do post your real name, so all I care to know about you is what you write.
By posting using my real name anybody can, if they choose, Google me and judge for themselves whether I have credibility beyond merely what my words convey. For example when I was writing columns offering my psychological assessment of politicians they could read about my background as a psychotherapist and as a mental health center director.
When I was writing about law enforcement they could read about my experience as a reserve police officer and author of one of the two most read websites about police stress.
When I wrote about PTSD among veterans they could read newspaper articles about the treatment program for Vietnam veterans which I initiated and ran which was one of the first in the country.
Ideally we should be judged by what we say and not by who we are. However, the issue here is credibility as others may see it. Our ideas should trump who we are. That isn't always the case.
Simply publishing your real name may be meaningless unless you have online references and a body of work which can be evaluated.
It is simply false to state that I am "simply assuming to know how ALL people on the Internet will respond (regarding accountability, honesty…etc) to posts made, which are underscored by a digital name appearing on a screen." I did not assume anything of the kind, with or without the capitalized "ALL".
Saying that my "opinion in this matter is bordering on mysticism…in my opinion" would be a valid enough opinion if I divined how ALL people on the Internet respond to anything. If you are familiar with my columns and my comments you would know that I am a stickler for backing up any statements like this with polling data and other research.
So, Hal, for all the little people who don't have your credentials. Those who aren't widely published in professional matters related to the human sciences…or in any other capacity.
Then I ask:
Exactly how, other than a divine knowing, would you assess a person's accountability, integrity, etc, who sitting behind their computer in a place far, far away?
Unless you have some type of direct access to a "digital person" you see on the Internet, or an opportunity to know them in ways that truly allow you to actually assess just how accountable and honest a person is…or isn't…HOW DO YOU REALLY KNOW?
Now you might easily detect from a person's post their level of understanding the content and/or context of a particular issue.
You can certainly determine outright ignorance or someone "playing to be ignorant". No doubt stupidity might give rise during some exchange, but then again, playing stupid works for some.
"If you can determine for sure a person" is who they say they are, you might see an artistic talent such as a painting, photographs, article, book, etc. that he or she has made available on the Internet.
But for the most part. When it comes to the regular Joe and Jane's on the Internet…you are basically powerless to really and truly know how honest and accountable he or she is regardless of the name you see.
May I please offer you a little Shakespeare:
All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts.
Gregg apparently still thinks I am saying I can divine the credibility of a person posting anonymously online even though I said no such thing.
As for the quote from "As You Like It", I have no idea why he thinks these famous lines have anything to do with the discussion at hand. While not a Shakespeare scholar my understanding is that what the bard is saying is that life is like a play in that all people go through various phases. Far less familiar is the rest of the Jaque's description of these:
"His acts being seven ages. At first the infant,
Mewling and puking in the nurse's arms.
And then the whining school-boy, with his satchel
And shining morning face, creeping like snail
Unwillingly to school."
He ends with:
"Last scene of all,
That ends this strange eventful history,
Is second childishness and mere oblivion,
Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything."
Offering an appropriate literary quote may make someone seem erudite, and enhance a point. However, for the life of me, I can't understand how this particular quote relates to our discussion of Internet posting anonymity.
Hal…as you well know, we do all play out many parts in our lives.
In fact, by you jumping directly to the Shakespeare quote, and avoiding the greater questions of my post, I guess my error was to give you a way out of responding to my more important points.
So be it.
Like Doug and I…who will never agree in this matter. Neither will you or I agree.
But if I felt as strongly about this issue as does Doug, I think that I would blaze a new trail with "my convictions". You know, be a game changer. Put my beliefs into action. Require all members to post a real name.
Does this mean and end to the AP/Reuters posts too? They don't really add much to your site as we can pull them from just about any corporate site. AP/Reuters has done more to destroy national and international journalism than any other organization.
I've added a link to my Facebook. There goes the anonymity!
I disagree with those who believe that some Google-able identity somehow reinforces their arguments.
It is, on its face, an 'appeal to authority'.
I would like to draw your attentions back to the idea that our arguments should stand alone. That what we say should be judged upon what we have said, not who said it.
"On its face it is an appeal to authority", however beneath its face it is a way for those who are so inclined to determine, or gain more information, for themselves about the background and credibility of a poster.
One of the personal examples I used was my writing psychological profiles of politicians. I did this from time to time when I was a regular columnist on CHB. I made it clear that I wasn't a trained psychohistorian, but was a long-time psychotherapist. Verification of that could be easily found on a Google search, including proof that I had a state license as an independent practitioner.
Columnist Phil Hoskins sometimes wrote about personal finances. Columnist Robert Kezelis also is an attorney. You can easily prove their credentials with a Google search.
Rush Limbaugh, come on out
In the past many website comment sections, message boards and forums had people who tried to disrupt discussions. They were dubbed "trolls". CHB won't allow obvious "trolling" but if real names were required here it should be possible to determine if somebody was posting contradictory opinions on another website (assuming they were using their real names there).
If Rush Limbaugh decided to post here using a handle and air extreme liberal views which he could later use to prove that liberals were lunatics, would you want to know?
Simply Curious
And then there is the matter of simple curiosity about a poster. I admit I am curious about some of the people who comment here. I'd like to know their background. Some of them seem bitter. I'd like to understand why. Some lean towards being sarcastic or even nasty and try to jab at other posters, myself included, without going far enough to be banned. I'd like to understand why.
Self Disclosure
Unless they reveal more under their pseudonym I will only be left to speculate. "So what" I can hear a few voices saying. What can I say except that I believe strongly that being self-disclosuring is a positive characteristic in human relationships, in person and online.
Whether somebody wants to reveal more about themselves to readers here is currently entirely up to them. Some readers may be curious enough about Doug and his stomping grounds, for example, to want to read Blue Ridge Muse. I enjoy looking at his photographs (for example the shot of the girl looking at her team mascot in the current edition).
If someone does have an online presence that, unlike Blue Ridge Muse, isn't linked from CHB, a real name will sometimes satisfy that curiosity.
Gee Whiz, I guess my commentaries didn't count. Oh well, I will remain the house drama queen. It's funny Hal but on my secular humanist sites, I'm considered a "gem."
Old what's her name
Over these many years of the nets existence it has clearly become an old and tired argument that anonymity enables people to more freely express their thoughts. What anonymity really has done is enable the anonymous to freely express their feelings. More often then not anonymity values feelings over thought and immediate expression over that of thoughtful reflection.
Nobody has convinced me that it doesn't boil down to credibility.
Some readers don't care and others do. They will judge a post solely on its content.
Others do care.
If a poster wants to appeal to both kinds of readers they will reveal their true identity. Additionally when relevant they will reveal information about their qualification to opine on a subject. They will also include biases and potential conflicts of interest.
One of the books that shaped my belief in being open about myself was "The Transparent Self" by the late Canadian humanist psychologist Sidney Jourard. I read it when it was published in 1964 and was convinced that the personal benefits or self-discolusre outweighed the risks.
Are you a self-disclosing person? Take the test from Psychology Today and find out how you rank.
My score was 71 out of 100:
"According to your responses, you are generally comfortable letting the floodgates open and sharing with your pals, rarely holding anything back. You seem to have reached a level of comfort, trust and closeness that allows you to show even your vulnerable side to friends. As you are likely aware, connecting with other humans is a natural need, as is feeling loved and understood, and you appeared to have found this special connection with your closest companions. Moreover, if your openness is reciprocated, it should lead to deeper bond and higher level of friendship."
I wonder whether those who comment here would have scores on self-disclosure that reflected how they felt about revealing personal information about themselves online.
Hal, that was an interesting lunch time adventure. I guess you and I are two peas from the same pod.
Self-disclosure score – 73
"According to your responses, you are generally comfortable letting the floodgates open and sharing with your pals, rarely holding anything back. You seem to have reached a level of comfort, trust and closeness that allows you to show even your vulnerable side to friends. As you are likely aware, connecting with other humans is a natural need, as is feeling loved and understood, and you appeared to have found this special connection with your closest companions. Moreover, if your openness is reciprocated, it should lead to deeper bond and higher level of friendship."
Bill, I am happy and proud to share the pea pod with you.
Just how erudite does one have to be to evince credibility? Said differently, I've known a lot of educated fools replete with credentials that merely attest to the sad state of our education system. And then there are the elected ones…
How can anyone question the credibility of Hal Brown? He wrote for the Home Page here and opened up a dialog on many issues based on human activity. I loved the fact that he shared his family with us in pictures and comments. I fell in love with the dogs along with the words that he brought here. He is a patient man much more so than I am a patient female.
I missed hin when he took a break to recover from the loss of his beautiful wife. I don't want him to go away again.
There are arguments, opinions, and expert opinions.
Arguments start with postulates and logically move to a conclusion. They do not require any identification. If p then q, and everyone agrees on p, then q. QED.
Opinions are just that. They consist of anecdotal evidence that someone somewhere felt like writing that down (typing it in, perhaps). If Rush Limbaugh decided to write anonymous liberal screeds, that's his choice, opinion, and right.
Expert opinions do require qualification. For someone writing psychological profiles of politicians, or claiming expertise in journalism, it is perfectly reasonable to expect some sort of cross-confirmation that this alleged expert is in fact an expert, and that does require identification.
Comments on the news consist of all these things (sometimes in the same comment), but I think it is important that they be kept separate.
Anonymity and pseudonymity may well breed incivility and cheapen debate, but they are absolutely essential to keep speech free. Many expressions of unpopular opinions (or unpopular arguments) can have serious repercussions on individuals espousing them, whether the opinion or argument is reasonable, logical, or not.
The classic example, referred to again and again, is "Publius", who wrote about crimes against the King, itself a serious crime. Illegal may not be immoral, immoral may not be illegal, but both can have serious consequences if those in power have different ideas of morality and legality than you.
I believe (opinion here) that throwing out anonymity to 'raise the level of debate' is throwing out the baby along with the bathwater. Yes, you get rid of a lot of dirt. But that's not the point.
I'll leave you with this: "I may not agree with what you say, but I shall defend to the death your right to say it."* And rights are worthless if the exercise thereof comes with crippling retaliation.
* Attributed to Voltaire (itself a pseudonym) although apparently used first by one. E. B. Hall, also writing under a pseudonym… J.
(As a trivial aside, cross-confirmation of expertise doesn't necessarily require a real name either. Consistent pseudonymity can do the same; e.g. if an individual unfortunately named (in 1932, perhaps) 'Adolph Hitler Smith', decides to go through medical school twenty years later as 'Albert Harry Smith' and is issued a diploma in that name, what his real name is is irrelevant to his medical expertise.)
Hal, It doesn't seem that anyone is attempting to convince you specifically that it all boils down to credibility. I would submit to you that to people who post anonymously do so for varied reasons and are apparently quite happy to do so, otherwise they would use their "real names" or would not post at all. But, "boils down to credibility", compared to what?
I must admit I've read only a couple of the articles you've written. If poster credibility has been an issue that's bothered you in the past I'm not aware of it. Please point me to the article if I missed it.
It's certainly possible I'm missing something, but to tell you the truth, RR is, in my experience one of the best moderated political forums on the Internet. In fact, I can't give you the name of a more reasoned and credible forum. I don't know that there is one. If there is a more informative and more credible political forum lead the way, I'll follow.
I don't have any interest in psychotherapy and I don't see the relevance in regards to Internet BB anonymity, and in fact, in a quick web search I wasn't able to find anything. While I can understand that it may play a big part in your forum participation, it doesn't appear to be a consideration for much of anyone else. I'm a bit confused by your position as you (nor Bill) post much at all on RR.
Finally, I've tried to find recent examples of blatant dishonesty and cowardice expressed by anonymous posters on RR and I really can't find any recent and egregious examples. This subject of your concern seems to be a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.
It has long been the policy of RR for members to cite sources and to do so in within clearly defined guidelines. It is my opinion that Phil and the Mods have done an outstanding job in managing the site. Beyond that, Ranters do well at policing themselves and each other. People who are abusive, disruptive, or unwilling to cite sources when requested don't remain on the forum.
I've never made a distinction between those who post their "real names" and those who post anonymously. I've never actually given it any thought. Perhaps I view posters differently, but when I have difficulty with a stated position or "fact", I have no problem asking for sources.
At present I am not aware of one, not one, regular poster on RR who doesn't think critically. That's pretty astounding when you think about it. It also means that people on RR know the difference between sh*t and Shinola and they are not fooled. That is what makes it such a phenomenal political forum, not how people are identified. Hell, we have an entire collection of presidential hopefuls whose names we all know yet none of them seem to be all that friendly with honesty and truth. I was asleep the day they taught Shakespeare but I do remember, "What's in a name?"
I haven't posted on RR in years, and only have been commenting on the main section for a few months. I stopped all my writing when my wife died two years ago but prior to that I wrote a few hundred columns for CHB.
My reference to credibility and using my background as a psychotherapist had to do with the fact that during the prior presidential primaries I wrote a number of columns addressing the psychological motivations of candidates.
Not to get off on a tangent but you did quote Shakespeare and I am not sure how Juliet saying this to Romeo ties into your point.
Tis but thy name that is my enemy;–
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title:–Romeo, doff thy name;
And for that name, which is no part of thee,
Take all myself.
This is the growing trend for news site comment sections. And I'm all for it!
And it's a very easy system to implement.
Good to see I'm not the only one who read Poynter.
I don't visit often Hal but "Top Stories" is my favorite section!
My late wife, Betty, was a reference librarian so she turned me on to several good websites. She also schooled me in the necessity of backing up your facts with reliable sources.
Great article and comments!….I haven't read all of them….and I do believe in being as transparent as possible, but there are times when cloaking a person's identity can help that person….Job seekers, I believe, must be stingy in giving ammunition to potential employers to reject them. Companies now hire firms that do searches or do some searching on their own of prospective employees' various web sites they created or visited — Facebook, blogs, and other sites where they may have written something. Complete transparency all the time could hurt a person's chances of employment, because there's no telling what could raise a red flag in the mind of an employer.
I agree.
If one writes in a way that offends no one then using a read name is fine. Many of my opinions are way off those of a majority and soon I developed a label rather than an identity. I have been an Atheist since I was 9 years old and I am now 79. I'm an old pro at defending individual concepts for living in America. I do not see race, I do not respect any God that carries prohibitions. We live in America where our individual states have laws that we can choose to live within or move.
We have seen millions of Americans trying to give the Constitution prohibitions that do not exist. It has caused millions of us to lose respect for America.
I had so many threats that I closed down my website and quit writing for several sites. Even here at CHB I took a terrible verbal assault for my lack of faith. The world is not ready yet for free thinking based on the individual mind of our species. I gave it my best.
My enthusiasm for the Internet has dropped considerably and I now used Google only for research. I used to throw out opinions here and gave that up.
I figure that if you write something on politics, religion or social issues and you don't offend someone, or at least provoke some ire, you might as well not write at all.
The internet is breeding a nation of cowards afraid to backup there words with their identities and yet we are expected to believe their unidentifiable bull. The right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and that right is commonly subject to limitations such as on "hate speech" which is clearly what Doug must deal with on his privately owned and operated news site. History in America is made by those who are brave enough to speak out despite any personal risk, it certainly does not come from those who speak out anonymously. This Paulbot filth that Doug must deal with whenever his site posts an article about Ron Paul, by anonymous posters, is clearly cowardice!
Bill Cravenner: "The internet is breeding a nation of cowards afraid to backup there words with their identities and yet we are expected to believe their unidentifiable bull."
Wow! Seriously…wow!
If I gave you my real name – I am willing to make a healthy bet that by doing so – it won't back up my words. I might be a vile pathological liar…as you've come close to calling every person on the net who doesn't display what you consider to be a "real name".
There is absolutely no way to make people backup their comments by displaying a supposed real name.
How do you ENFORCE whatever you call "BACKING UP THEIR WORDS"? Oh…right…kick them out of a site, right? There are thousands of sites to turn to. People who are of the caliber that you make all anonymous posters out to be…will laugh all the way to another site.
I see people who are claiming to display a real name lie their tails off. They can get vile, vulgar…totally off the wall crazy.
What's gonna happen? A Mod shows up and says, "Hey John Doe…you can't say such things. You're suppose to be an upstanding Internet citizen. You don't say those things because you display your "supposedly" real name.
You don't have a clue as to whether or not a real looking name is real. There are millions who use a very real looking name…that aren't. But yet…they must be more credible, more accountable because they have a real looking name.
I consider your claim that the Internet is BREEDING A NATION of COWARDS – to be outrageous and a very skewed minded assessment.
I say lets all take up a collection for Doug in order to get the necessary software to FORCE individual members to post his or her real name.
Then I'll predict that in short time, this site will go silent.
I consider your ranting on, calling people cowards…is a form of HATE SPEECH. But you have the right to rant on…
The First Amendment completely protects anonymous speech.
If you want to tear down the foundation of the First Amendment because you don't like its meaning. Then fire away.
The Internet is like TV or Radio…or other media outlets. You don't like what you see…then turn the channel, flip the page.
The Internet wasn't invented just for your personal use and pleasure.
There are billions of people on the net…many of which aren't near as cool and savvy, and honest, and accountable as you…but in the end, our Constitution protects them…just like it does you.
You do have a choice, Bill. Don't read posts that don't SHOW A REAL LOOKING NAME.
This isn't a LETTER TO THE EDITOR forum…yet. If it becomes one, then I might consider furnishing my FULL real name If I seek to get my letter published.
Thus far I guess I'm only a half-ass coward and half accountable, half way honest. Gregg is all you'll get.
If this site becomes a runaway train for Doug…then I have no doubt he'll make a choice to shut it down, or make the investment to enforce people listing "what looks like a real name".
Doug Thompson posted;
Here's an interesting statistic. Today's story on potential problems for the Ron Paul campaign has brought — as of a few minutes ago — 162 comments into the moderation queue. All 162 were flagged because:
1–All were anonymous and 143 used fake email addresses. The email addresses which could be verified included obscenities and threats;
2–Seventy three talked about how proud they were to be a Ron Paul supporter and/or contributor yet not one was proud enough to go public with their name;
The facts;
I read the post by Doug.
And my question is…what's that got to do with me?
What do you want from people who participate in forums…or even to gain privilege of having access to the Internet? You want their birth certificate, drivers, licenses, Social Security card, their bank account numbers…to PROVE their identity?
Then once you have it…and you don't like what I post or how I participate…you gonna call the Accountability Police to come pick me up. After all you'll have everything you need to prove who I am.
Knowing my name falls way short of knowing my values, beliefs, traditions, integrity, etc. I could be crazy as a loon or smooth as most psychopaths are. Very cool, calm, collected…and very calculating.
You and Hal gloat about the disclosure test. Super for you. I wonder how much Hal understands about disclosure issues with regard to those he works with as their psychotherapist? My guess…not much.
You have every right to condemn, vilify, demonize each and every person on the net who doesn't met your moral standards.
You don't have the right to be heard by those who you call cowards…the ruination of an entire nation.
In my itty bitty opinion…that's completely absurd thinking.
But in the end, UNLESS you own a website where you require full name and ID disclosure to participate…then your stance on this is no more of value than mine.
I think you have a lot of balls arbitrarily calling people (and I can only assume you mean ALL people) cowards…and degrading our nation…because you disagree with anonymity on the Internet.
You've rarely posted in RR…yet, you slide in and start slinging mud about this issue…then when all didn't bow to your standards, and beliefs…you slide out again in silences. You know…and kind of hit and run deal.
I can think of a number of CHB (RR) participants who I respect their posted comments and opinions more than yours. And I don't have a clue as to who they claim to be.
All of the above said…when you see Gregg or AustinRanter in RR…it will be a total waste of time reading my post henceforth. They'll be worthless lies, distortions of the truth, character smear against all other participators, etc,. Right?
As always, whether it's the news stories, editorial opinions, or comments from the peanut gallery, "caveat emptor" is the watchword of the day.
Whether it's govt statistics, expert opinions, MSM offerings, or mere musings for fun, it's always up to you to divine the value of the information.
Here's hoping you can sort the wheat from the chaff and know how to consider the source.
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Hi, there. A little late to be adding my name, but I am participating. I have already uploaded my preview and am just about to send Debra a pm with the link. A beautiful kit, btw.
Here is my preview.
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I hate weigh in day now…
For the past few weeks I have been dreading Thursday rather than looking forward to it. If you asked how I FEEL.. I'd tell you tomorrow will be a +40 day and I'm right back where I started but I know that's just silly talk. All that has been going through my head today is this (in the voice of Gene Wilder of course) "have so much time, and so little to do! Strike that, reverse it." I don't know how I'll accomplish everything I need to tomorrow before we leave.
My Mom lost almost 3 lbs this week!
I lost 0.9 lbs this week.
I'm more excited about my Mom's loss than mine at this point! She's been struggling and I'm so glad she had a good week.
My loss was shocking considering the amount of chocolate I consumed this week.
It's been a long stress filled week and I'm glad it's Thursday so the week can reset..
I haven't felt well since yesterday afternoon (not sure if it's related to my walk in the smoke yesterday or if I just picked up a bug or something) and I ended up canceling my training session today..which I feel bad about because as much as I hate them… I love them.. I just don't have it in me to do anything but sit…or sleep.
It's now countdown to my Cousin's wedding time… it's in MD where we used to live and most of the family is coming (our shared family is mostly all in MI) so I get to see my Mom, my Grandpa, an uncle who will probably hassle me and my "concerned" cousin who I ranted about earlier as well as aunts and other cousins. I'm excited to see everyone..only my Mom has seen me since I have started loosing weight. My awesome cousin even made sure I could eat at her reception!! I love her!!
Bought 2 dresses today…
from the Jr's Department… OH HELL YEAH!!
Conversations w/ Whiteh2o
- ME: My body is jello
- Whitey: Pudding or gelatin?
- ME: Gelatin
- Whitey: You'll be ok... just remember you have to sit in the fridge for 4 hours.
after gym conversations w/ Whiteh2o
- ME: Fuck I hate him.... jump fuckin squats!
- Whitey: Jump squats on his broken corpse?
- ME: Conditioning was treadmill sprints for 10 min at 6 incline and 6 mph
- Whitey: Trainers are psycho. You should definitely be getting results though... you investing in ben-gay muscle rub?
- ME: Actually I don't get nearly as sore as I used to. I can tell my legs and shoulders have improved.
Last night conversations with Whiteh2o
- Whitey: Just ran 3 miles in 25:01...I'm dying...
- ME: SHIT! I just walked today - 1 hr 36 min..it was cooler but humid..ick
- Whitey: It was my best time yet...felt like death afterwards
- ME: I know that feeling..I had it yesterday with jump squats
- Whitey: Squat jumps I believe are a layer of hell
- ME: They are one of the lower levels
Conversations with my trainer
- NB: We are going to start out with some jump squats.
- ME: Whoa we did that last time
- NB: When was that?
- ME: Tuesday
- MB: Well today is Thursday
- ME: (groan)
- NB: You did not do jump squats on Tuesday
- ME: Yes I did because my friend and I were discussing how they were the lowest level of hell.
- NB: Well I'm glad to hear you like them so much because you're doing them again.
- (Lazy fat girl voice in my head cursed him out big time!)
My Weight-Loss Mantra
Article By: WeightWatchers.com Editors
Sometimes all you need to stay on Plan is a little nugget of sound advice. Find an inspirational phrase or quote that works for you, then repeat it as needed, as a reminder that you can be successful if you're committed to your goals.
We reached out to you, our readers, on the WeightWatchers.com Community and on Facebook to hear which mantras keep you on track. Check out some of our favorites below.
"Steady and slow, learn as you go. Lose too fast, it may not last." — Louise F. *
"It matters not how slowly you go, only that you do not stop." — Julia B. *
"No matter how slow you go, you're still lapping the [person] sitting on the couch." — Stephanie H. *
"I may no be where I want to be, but I'm better than where I was." — Heather J. *
"You don't drown from falling in the water, you only drown if you stay there." — Barb L. *
"Success requires backbone, not wishbone." —Debbie S.*
"If we defend our habits, we have no intentions of breaking them." — Judy P. *
"Life has no remote…YOU have to get up and change it yourself!" — Tracy S. *
"The weight didn't arrive from the Fat Fairy last night, and the Skinny Fairy isn't coming tonight, either." — Miscelena1.**
"Instead of a plate, reach for your mate!" — Frank E. *
"What you eat in private shows up in public!" — NicoleJuner1 **
"I've come too far to take orders from a cookie." — Gina L. *
"If you kinda do it, it kinda works. If you really do it, it really works." — Andrea G., Carol T. *
"If you're driving and you get a flat tire, do you get out of the car and slash the other three? No, you fix it and get back on the road." — Tanya S. *
"The scale is a weight loss tool – not a judge, jury and executioner." — Brenda T. *
"Keep tracking, stop slacking!" — Holly L. *
PMS is hungry and wants to be fed…
It wants…
Pickles - (it got pickled green tomatoes from the Farmer's market and they have cloves in them and are AWESOME)
Peanut butter (specifically on the bananas)
Salty chips (it got the crushed remains of some baked potato chips)
Tomato sauce on Spinach Pasta spirals
Damage done = 14 WW points and 10 over for the day… Still have one activity point left so it could be worse..lol
The annoying bit is PMS was screaming a day before weigh in. SHHHHHHHH go back to sleep!
It bothers me that…
Some people in my family think losing weight may be unhealthy and that I might be taking it too far but yet being extremely overweight is ok ? (Yes there are more overweight people in my family than not and some are even in the MO range)
Weight watchers tells me based on my height -
"Your healthy weight range is 135 to 169 lbs."
Today I weighed 164.1 - I'm at the high end of my healthy range.
My goal weight is 140- 150 .. I'm not sure what I'm aiming for I'm just eating better and exercising and will see how it shakes out.
My average weekly weight loss is 1.5 lbs. (over 2 lbs a week consistently can be unhealthy)
I eat a lot of food in little amounts through out the day and most of it is obscene amounts of fruits and vegetables.
I'm not anemic.. I'm not lacking in ANY vitamins and minerals to be exact.. Why? because I get tested regularly.
I don't need meat..I don't need dairy… I don't need eggs.. if fact those things put me on track to follow in my father's footsteps.. heart attacks, stints and 15-20 pills a day and not being able to do the thing you want because you don't feel well and all your conversations revolve about how you feel or what Doctor you have to see. My Dr is VERY happy with how I have brought down my cholesterol levels.
Am I on a diet?
A "diet" implies at some point I'll be done… I can not be "done"
Done would be stopping what I am doing now and going back to what I used to be doing. That is just stupid… where did that get me? Over 200 lbs with high cholesterol and getting out of breath just walking up the stairs and feeling unhappy and defeated.
I will always be vegan.. (my heart demands it)
I will always do some form of exercise (even if it's just a walk around the block or dancing around the house)
I will always eat healthy food in healthy portions
This is a lifestyle change not a diet
As a very good friend pointed out to me… people who criticize others for doing something good for themselves need to look inside to see why they are doing it. Usually it has nothing to do with the person they are criticizing but a way to justify why they aren't doing it themselves.
Are You Hung Up on a Dress Size?
Article By: Carol Lynn Krol
Aiming to be the "perfect" size can only set you up for disappointment — especially when you realize how random store clothing sizes really are.
Women working toward a weight-loss goal usually have a specific number on the scale in mind, but they often have an ideal clothing size as well.
But according to George Simonton design director of eponymous fashion label George Simonton, and professor at Fashion Institute of Technology, there is no standard sizing convention among women's clothing manufacturers. "If you try an 8 from each designer, you'll get a different fit on each one," Simonton says. "They develop their own specs and measurements."
That's no surprise to any woman who's burst into tears in a dressing room. Further, Jo Kallal, professor of fashion and apparel studies at University of Delaware, says that even within a single brand, there are disparities. "Neiman Marcus' mail order catalog is more mass market than what they have in stores," Kallal says. "[The latter] tends to be traditional sizing, and the [former] is roomier."
Makes the death sled not that bad...
- ME: I had to push that freakin sled again
- CHRIS: But you look thinner
- ME: Really? I lost over a lb this week.
- CHRIS: Yeah you look really thin in that shirt.


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MILWAUKEE (WTAQ) - A 17-year-old robbery suspect who was shot by a Milwaukee police officer was hospitalized in stable condition at last word.
Prosecutors are considering possible charges against the teen.
Authorities said he tried to rob an off-duty Milwaukee police detective on Sunday night, while the officer was walking along a street on the city's north side.
The detective pulled out a gun and shot the teen, who had run from the scene. The boy later ran to a grocery store to get help.
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Springfield police officers have been working without a contract for nearly two years now.
They weren't sure as to whether or not they'd have to continue to work without a contract, but they got their answer at Monday night's City Council meeting.
It was standing room only at City Hall.
The men and women of the Springfield Police Department union, Local 364 The International Brotherhood of Police Officers, filled benches and packed into every corner of the chambers.
On the agenda was their contracts.
Negotiations have been going on for the past 18 months.
They reached a point where a state arbitrator had to be called in.
Kevin Coyle is the attorney for the IBPO union. He said one of the reasons why negotiations were so lengthy was because of the discussion over cameras in police cars.
"They wanted to know what they're responsibilities would be in implementing the cameras," said Coyle.
He explained the officers were always in favor of cruiser cameras, but questions lingered over procedures with them.
"We wanted to know how the recordings were going to be used, who has access to them, the purpose and who can look them over," said Coyle.
Finally, it was up to the council to decide.
"I urge my fellow councilors to support what should be a unanimous decision of this body," said Councilor Tim Rooke as he addressed his colleagues.
The council voted 11-0 to pass the contracts that include a 2 percent raise and full funding for the Quinn Bill education incentive.
A joint committee will also be established to explore the possibility of installing cameras in cruisers.
"We're happy it was a unanimous vote. We take that as a vote of confidence by the City Council and our members are grateful for them to fund this contract," said Coyle.
According to Coyle, the new contract is expected to go into effect shortly. Once it does, the joint committee will be formed within 60 days to look at the protocol and procedures of police cameras.
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Ice Hockey
Neil's Notebook: P for Progress
2011-12 team brought program back to NCAA Tournament, but standards are higher
Spartans Fall, 3-1, to Union in NCAAs
Berry has lone goal for MSU.
Spartans Face Union Friday in NCAA Opener
Spartans return to NCAA Tournament for the first time since 2008
Spartans Kick Off Postseason at Miami
MSU looks to change recent playoff history
Neil's Notebook: Spartans Need Better Saturday Effort
Friday loss to Notre Dame was 11th straight game without a win
MSU vs. Lake Superior State - Jan. 20, 2012
Michigan State skates to a 4-2 win over Lake Superior State on Jan. 20.
2010-11 (Junior) Academic All-Big Ten selection ... Finished the yeaer with two goals and three assists in 37 games ... Played a regular role on the Spartan blueline, mostly paired with Jake Chelios or Zach Josepher ... Managed two blocked shots in the season opener against Maine (10/16) and at home against Ferris State (11/23) ... First point of the season came as an assist on Torey Krug's first-period goal against Ohio State (11/13) ... Assisted on Lee Reimer's first collegiate tally, a first-period score against Colorado College (12/29) ... Also recorded a career-best five blocked shots in the contest against the Tigers ... Was a +2 with four blocked shots in the win and tie at Lake Superior (1/14-15) ... Scored his first of the year, the eventual game-winner, in a 2-0 shutout at Ohio State (2/4) ...+2 and blocked three shots in the Alaska series (2/18-19) ... Had a goal and an assist against Alaska in the CCHA First Round series.
2009-10 (Sophomore): Appeared in 20 games, with a 1-5-6 scoring line ... Spent the regular season platooning with classmate Brock Shelgren at right defense, playing with Matt Crandell ... +3 ... A steady, reliable defender ... Had a pair of assists and was a +3 in the season opener against Clarkson ... Scored his first goal of the season at Maine (10/16) ... Recorded an assist on Dustin Gazley's game-winning goal against Western Michigan (10/30) ... Assisted on another Gazley tally at Northern Michigan (12/5) ... Had an assist and was a +3 in MSU's commanding 10-1 victory over Michigan Tech in the Great Lakes Invitational semifinals (12/29) ... Dressed in three of the final four games of the season.
2008-09 (Freshman): Recorded a goal and six assists (seven points) in 38 games ... One of just five players to appear in all 38 games, and one of two freshmen (along with centerman Daultan Leveille) to do so ... Team's second-leading scorer among blueliners ... Notched first-career point by assisting on Jeff Petry's power-play goal in 2-1 loss to Boston University in Ice Breaker Invitational (10/11)...Assisted on Tim Crowder's game-winning goal vs. Massachusetts-Lowell (10/17)...Recorded an assist on Matt Schepke's tally in 3-1 loss at Nebraska-Omaha (11/22)...Assisted on Tim Crowder's first-period strike in 4-1 win over Miami (1/16)...Scored his first career goal in 6-2 loss to Michigan at Joe Louis Arena (1/23)...Assisted on Matt Schepke's power-play tally in 3-2 win over Bowling Green (2/20)...Credited an assist on Daultan Leveille's third-period goal in 5-3 loss to Northern Michigan in first round of CCHA Tournament (3/6).
Prior to MSU: Played two seasons for the Chicago Steel of the United States Hockey League (USHL) ... In 2007-08, was the squad's top-scoring defenseman, as he scored six goals and added 26 assists for 32 points, contributed three power-play goals, and was a +15 in 60 games ... Fourth on the team in assists, and was sixth in plus/minus... ... Selected to participate in the 2008 USHL All-Star Game ... Helped the Steel to a 32-22-6 record in his final season in Chicago, and into the USHL semifinals ... Had two-year totals of eight goals and 43 assists (51 points) with 70 PIM in 119 games ... Attended Catholic Central High School before playing in Chicago (2002-06), where he played four years of varsity hockey, and earned All-Catholic and all-state honors as a junior and senior ... Helped Catholic Central to state championships in 2003 and 2005.
Personal: Born Dec. 3, 1987, in Royal Oak, Mich. ... Son of Linda and Rick Buttery ... Finance major ... Has a brother, Ricky, and a sister, Kaitlyn, who graduated from the University of Oregon in 2007 ... ... Favorite NHL team: Detroit Red Wings ... Favorite NHL player: Nick Lidstrom, because "he makes smart plays with and without the puck all over the ice. He makes everything look easy and leads by example." ... Notes that his father is his biggest hockey influence - "He got my brother and I started on hockey and has been there to guide me in all my years of playing." ... Idol is Steve Yzerman - "He played with a great passion and desire for the game. He is a class act who is respected by all." ... Enjoys golf.
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All the credits goes to the source/Artist (even the gif, but i make gif, not stealing gif)
My icon is Kisaeagi Momo
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Ugly Heater Solution: Just Go With It
A friend of ours just moved into a new apartment and figured out pretty quickly that his roommates have a sense of humor. Instead of trying to hide their giant heater they made it into another member of the family. Introducing Mr. Belvedere:
SO even though most of us strive to hide an ugly heater and some of us do it with alarming elegance you can always go the humorous route and make your own Mr. Belvedere (as the guys call it). He gets a lot of attention, gives most people a good laugh and most importantly doesn't take himself too seriously.
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Lol, I love it.
LOOOVE IT! Clever and witty.
i want one.
hehehe. thanks for that bright spot in my day.... like when people don't take themselves or their homes too seriously
well done, old chap!
Love the presence of optimism.
yup. totally love it. (you thought you were going to get negative response, didn't you???)
Landlady: "Oh, you are SO not getting your deposit back."
You call THAT an improvement?
That is hilarious!
If my tenant did that, I would give him his entire deposit back plus a case of New Castle.
Doh moh mate gato , Mr. Roboto, indeed!
This is really cute & creative!
As a member of the "Mr. Belvedere" tv cast, I know our Mr. B would have just loved this. Many thanks.
My friends had a huge old wall heater in a dilapidated two bedroom rental guest house that they called "Mamma". They'd negotiate from the warmth of their beds through the thin walls for who was going to brave the cold and go turn Mamma on.
Sounds dirty, now that I think about it... ;-)
BWAH!!! LOVE IT! That is too funny. Of course, only college kids could get away with doing that, but it would make me smile!
You could also make it a butler and put a coak hook on the wall or put a shelf up and some real cocktail glasses. :-)
You know, somebody should do R2-D2 or Dalek kits for these things. EXTERMINATE! Or like 60s lounge swank sci-fi Get Smart style kits too. Hmmmm.....
Ooo, and radiator covers too.
Forget you've ever read this...
Genius! So clever.
Oh I'm so relieved that you guys like it! Animalhouz-- I was somewhat concerned that I was going to get blasted for this, since it is something funny. SO phew.
that is lovely! :-D clever and funny.
If I had any heaters that looked like this, this is what I would do.
So cool.
ilene, cast member wha???
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Guam - Benjamin Shulte is the second youngest member of Team Guam competing at the Olympic Games in London. At 16 years of age and standing 6'3" Ben will be representing the island in the 10K Open Water Marathon. Shulte says the race will be tough and his main goal will be to finish the race.
Shulte said, "I've been dreading the middle part in between the initial sprint out and getting into that long rhythm that will take me all the way to the end. It's going to be a lot of fighting basically in the water in the first thousand meters. Open water swimming doesn't look that tough but I can guarantee you that I've bled and I have been kicked and I have got bruises and had my goggles smashed into my eye. It's a full on contact sport especially in the beginning parts when everybody is trying to sprint out. I need to keep up with the pack because it's pack swimming in open water and if I keep up with the pack I will be fine and if I don't I risk the chance of pulling out because the water does get really cold."
Ben's last competition was in Portugal last month when he competed in the Olympic Qualifier held in Setubal Portugal. His training sessions for the games consist of 8,500-9,500 meters per pool session and 2-3km open water which totals to about 55-60 miles per week.
Shulte added, "It's going to be the same training all the way through until a day or two before my race and that's when I'll start to taper and back off a little bit. The preparation for the race involves putting on my suit, which can take ma about 15 minutes itself because the suit is so tight. I have to put on wolf fat lanolin, which is like Vaseline to keep the warmth because the water is going to be like 60 degrees and I need as much warmth as I can get. I also have to get my numbers on, it's like a triathlon and my only goal is to finish. I'm not expecting to win any medals or anything; I'm up against the best 24 open water swimmers in the world and I will just be happy to finish."
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22 U.S. Code § 1961 - Economic assistance
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The President is authorized to cooperate with and assist any nation or group of nations in the general area of the Middle East desiring such assistance in the development of economic strength dedicated to the maintenance of national independence.
Source(Pub. L. 85–7, § 1,Mar. 9, 1957, 71 Stat. 5.)
Appropriations, Fiscal Year 1957; Restriction; Report to Congress
Pub. L. 85–7, § 3,Mar. 9, 1957, 71 Stat. 5, authorized President to use, for balance of fiscal year 1957, funds not to exceed $200,000,000 for military and economic assistance for Middle East from appropriations available under Mutual Security Act of 1954, restricted availability of funds for military assistance to funds appropriated for military assistance and for economic assistance to funds appropriated for other than military assistance, and required that funds not be available until 15 days after reports on proposed use of funds be supplied to appropriate Congressional committees.
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