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Basin Dentistry Office will be closed on Monday and they will be rescheduling any unreachable patients on Tuesday.
Breaking Bread Soup Kitchen in Midland will be closed Monday and NOT serve their evening meal.
First Baptist Church Main Office and Activities Building will open at 10 a.m.
The Boys & Girls Clubs of Midland will be open for our club members from 8:00 am - 5:30 pm on Monday Nov. 25, 2013. Lunch will be provided.
Harmony Home CAC will be closed tomorrow Monday.
Martin County Family Clinic in Stanton will be closed on Monday.
Matthews Martial Arts Karate School - morning classes cancelled.
Midland Community Healthcare Services will be closed Monday.
Millers Gymnastics Academy in both Midland and Odessa will be closed tomorrow due to weather conditions.
The courthouse and county buildings in Ector County will be opening at 10 a.m. Monday.
The office of the Attorney General in Midland and Odessa will open at 10 a.m. Monday.
All locations of Premier Physicians will be closed Monday due to the icy conditions. They will call patients on Tuesday to reschedule appointments.
Sunday, November 23, 2013:
9:49 p.m. - From Sharyland Utilities - Sharyland Utilities is reporting several new outages this Sunday evening caused by the ongoing ice storms throughout the region. Notably, Sharyland crews are now responding to a large outage affecting approximately 2,500 customers in the Greenwood community near Midland.
In addition, approximately 8,000 additional customers are currently still without power in Borden, Glasscock, Howard, Martin, Midland, Mitchell, Reagan, Scurry, and Upton counties.
All local Sharyland crews have been working continuously throughout the weekend, and Sharyland has brought in 10 additional contract crews to help with the effort. Both Sharyland crews and the contract crews will continue to work throughout the evening.
Given the widespread locations of the outages, we do not have an estimate at this time as to when power will be restored to all customers.
Customers who experience an outage should contact us immediately at 800-442-8688.
7:57 p.m. - TXDOT Advisory - TxDOT crews spent the day Sunday clearing and treating roads and bridges throughout the Odessa district. Although most roads are open, areas of patchy and black ice are still possible. Low overnight temperatures could cause any moisture to refreeze, and the possibility of precipitation remains in the forecast. TxDOT will continue to monitor conditions and respond as needed. Travel tonight is strongly discouraged.
Those who must drive on Monday morning should allow extra time and check road conditions before heading out. For more information on road conditions statewide, check www.drivetexas.org or call 800-452-9292.
5:42 p.m. - From Sharyland Utilities - Sharyland Has Restored Power to ~5,500 Customers; Estimates ~9,500 Customers Still Without Electricity At This Time
(MIDLAND, TEXAS) Sharyland Utilities is pleased to announce that we have restored power to ~5,500 customers in our Midland, Stanton, and Colorado City service territories.
However, approximately 9,500 customers are currently still without power in Borden, Glasscock, Howard, Martin, Midland, Mitchell, Reagan, Scurry, and Upton counties due to multiple outages caused by the ongoing ice storms throughout the region.
All local Sharyland crews have been working continuously throughout the weekend, and Sharyland has brought in 10 additional contract crews to help with the effort. Both Sharyland crews and the contract crews will continue to work throughout the evening.
Given the widespread locations of the outages, we do not have an estimate at this time as to when power will be restored to all customers.
Customers who experience an outage should contact us immediately at 800-442-8688.
5:41 p.m. - From Odessa Police - Since Friday, OPD has responded to approximately 63 crashes. Officials are asking everyone to avoid driving if possible.
3:56 p.m. - FROM TX DOT - More deterioration on westbound driving lane on I-10 in Pecos County now from mm#266-#268 and also between mm#263-#264 Texas Transportation Forum: Jan. 6-8, 2014
3:15 p.m. - Road Closures - Loop 250 in Midland is closed. Highway 191 is closed from Loop 250 to FM 1788. The Westbound driving lane on I-10 between Mile Marker 267-268 is closed due to roadway deterioration in Pecos County. Westbound I-20 at Mile Marker 142 in Midland County is shut down and traffic is being diverted to Business 20.
Dr. Blanco's Regional Perinatal Center in both Midland and Odessa will be closed Monday.
2:09 p.m. - Midland International Airport tells us all American Airlines Flights have been cancelled for the day. For all other flights, please check your airline's website.
1:46 p.m. - Legacy Elite Athletics has cancelled all practices for today.
1:41 p.m. - Alpine ISD has announced that all classes will begin at 10:00 a.m Monday. School buses will only run in Alpine. Any changes in regards to the buses will be reported on KVLF, AM 1240 on the radio dial.
1:36 p.m. - The city of Alpine has declared a water emergency as Sunny Glenn area wells are unable to pump due to the lack of electricity. A team from AEP is on its way from San Angelo to help address the power outages all over the area, but travel will be slow for obvious reasons.
1:12 p.m. - The Big Spring YMCA is closed for the rest of Sunday afternoon. They will open at 10:00 a.m. Monday.
1:11 p.m. - Brewster County Offices will open at 10:00 a.m. Monday
11:23 a.m. - The Presidio County Sheriff's Office is reporting 0.25-0.5 ice accumulation. Roads are icy with accidents reported on highway 90 between Marfa and Alpine and on Highway 67 between Presidio and Marfa.
11:05 a.m. - Urgent Care located at 4214 Andrews Highway will be closed today due to inclement weather.
11:04 a.m. - The MOSC Chamber Concert of the Permian Basin String Quartet has been cancelled until further notice. Tickets purchased will be good for the rescheduled time and date.
Saturday, November 23, 2013
11:47 p.m. - Midland Police are reporting that Highway 191 between Midland and Odessa is closed. Only the service roads are open at this time.
9:38 p.m. - Oncor's website is reporting a large power outage near East 52nd and Grandview. According to the site, 1,968 customers are without power. Estimated power restoration is 11:00 p.m.
9:12 p.m. - From the Fort Stockton Police Facebook page: FSPD Officers reporting multiple car accidents due to icy road conditions on the outskirts of Fort Stockton. We are asking our citizens to stay off our streets until this cold weather settles down. No reports of road closures at this point.
9:07 p.m. - According to the ONCOR Stormcenter Website, numerous power outages are being reported in Odessa. One outage is located in North Odessa and another is located near County Road West and West 19th Street. Estimated power restoration is 11:00 p.m. tonight. You can view all the current outages at the link below:
8:38 p.m. - Northside Baptist Church in Fort Stockton has canceled all their church services for Sunday morning.
8:25 p.m. - Midland officials are asking drivers to stay off of Loop 250 and Highway 191 tonight if at all possible. Also, scanner traffic is reporting that officials are closing eastbound Highway 191 traffic by FM 1788.
7:47 p.m. - Police and emergency officials are responding to several accidents in the Midland/Odessa Area. According to scanner traffic there is a 15 car pileup on Highway 191 and Faudree in Odessa. We're also told there is an accident and Interstate 20 and West County Road in Odessa. Drivers are being asked to avoid both areas while officials are on the scene. We're also told that westbound lanes of Interstate 20 starting at Grant will be closed.
6:20 p.m. - Freezing Rain/sleet in some areas in the Permian Basin and snow in Southeast New Mexico. Snow is in the forecast during the overnight hours and into Sunday morning. The majority of the NewsWest 9 Viewing Area is now under a Winter Storm Warning through Monday Morning. Freezing rain is expected to transition to sleet/snow mix tonight. Icing is possible on area roads and drivers are asked to use extreme caution while driving.
2:18 p.m. - Two area churches have announced that they will not be holding services on Sunday, Nov. 24. Those churches are Alamo Heights Baptist Church in Midland and Westbrook Baptist Church in Westbrook, Texas.
If you have any event changes or cancellations of any kind, please let us know by e-mailing us at firstname.lastname@example.com. We will post your information on this page as soon as we can.
1:20 p.m. - The Wink vs. Muenster game has been moved to Sweetwater.
1:16 p.m. - There are currently 3 cancellations (all American) and a few delays at Midland International Airport. Please call the airlines for flight status and reservations assistance.
1:15 p.m. - Because of the icy roads in West Texas, tonight's Permian Basin Mensa program is canceled.
10:30 a.m. - According to a TXDOT press release sent to NewsWest 9, drivers are strongly advised to avoid any unnecessary travel. Those who must travel should use extreme caution and be alert for emergency responders and TxDOT workers who are on the roadway responding to incidents. Drivers should slow down, increase following distance and remove all distractions to avoid wrecks or becoming involved in a secondary collision.
No road closures have been reported to NewsWest 9.
10:00 a.m. - Good morning to everyone. Mother Nature is causing some travel and power problems in the Permian Basin.
According to Oncor's website there are 13 outages in Midland, affecting about 45 customers. In Odessa, there are 8 outages affecting 190 customers. According to the website, Oncor is assessing the situation.
At this time, we are not aware of any road closures in the area.
The Glasscock County Sheriff's Office tells NewsWest 9 they have worked 21 accidents and transported 12 people so far.
Officials are asking drivers to avoid Highway 87 and Highway 158.
Also due to a water main break in Gardendale, the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) has required Greater Gardendale Water Supply Corporation to notify customers of the need to boil their water prior to consumption.
To ensure destruction of all harmful bacteria and other microbes, water for drinking, cooking, and making ice should be boiled and cooled prior to use. The water should be brought to a vigorous, rolling boil and then boiled for two minutes. In lieu of boiling, you may purchase bottled water or obtain water from some other suitable source.
When it is no longer necessary to boil the water, the water system officials will notify you that the water is safe for consumption. Instructions to discontinue boiling will be issued in the same manner as this notice.
If you have questions concerning this matter, you can contact Greater Gardendale Water Supply Corporation at 432-561-9255.
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The avengers it was just a movie like Transformers. It was just fight and it didnt make you think. The dark knight it was a complex movie, it explores the moral of the people and (for example) shows the thin line between the villain and the hero.
The dark knight rises it wasn't too good as the dark knight but its different confusing concepts and complex made it a really good movie.
I really prefer the dark knight triology than the avengers because it's just like a transformers movie, just fight and destruction without making you think.
Jun 19 - 10:58 PM
my order of preference
1. The Avengers 5/5
2. The Dark Knight Rises 3/5
3. The Dark knight 2/5
Jan 27 - 08:34 AM
my order of preference
1. The Avengers 5/5
2. The Dark Knight Rises 3/5
3. The Dark knight 2/5
Jan 27 - 08:34 AM
The Avengers was simply a lot more fun and a lot more exciting. Now I was pleased with the ending of TDKR. I felt it was a fitting ending to an incredibly overrated trilogy. The Avengers is has just a bunch of great lines in it. And I gotta admit, when Batman was out with a broken back, the film was really getting boring. I was happy that Batman didn't die in the end. The Avengers was was good and fun even if you didn't see the 5 previous movies, although I think you would enjoy the Avengers more so if you've already seen the 5 movies it crosses over. Overall, I give Avengers 5/5, and TDKR 3/5.
Jan 19 - 04:05 PM
Metacritic: 78/100
Metacritic: 69/100
So TDKR has gotten higher critic and audience ratings. So more people liked TDKR. Thanks for coming to the show.
Dec 8 - 12:25 PM
TDKR is way better. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a fool.
Dec 8 - 12:16 PM
I prefer The Dark Knight Rises over The Avengers, even though I thought both were just average movies.
Oct 13 - 04:34 AM
The difference between the the two is that The Avengers lived up to and maybe even surpassed the hype. The Dark Knight Rises, while still a good movie, was a huge disappointment.
Because of this, Avengers wins.
Plus, it's just way more entertaining and fun to watch. What are movies for?
Sep 30 - 08:42 PM
XD TDKR wasn't a dissapointment, it was huge succes and received high critical and audience acclaim. Go check out IMDB and Metacritic (TDKR is much higher rated) Idiots like you should stay home.
Dec 8 - 12:17 PM
cant compare both there are both different and also masterpieces in there own way... but if I were to choose my personal favourite it would be the dark knight because of the fact I'm more of a batman fan.
Sep 27 - 04:54 AM
The Avengers, although The Dark Knight (not TDKR) is better than The Avengers.
Sep 23 - 08:43 AM
TDKR is so much better than The Avengers. I was surprised by how unineteresting and poorly made The Avengers was made. Especially for an action packed superhero movie. There are much better ones out there(like Iron Man, spiderman1/2) amd The Dark Knight Rises was easily the better film. Though it didn't come close to TDK
Sep 5 - 12:11 PM
I loved the Avengers through and through, i could never really finish watching any of the batman movies, they just didnt appeal to me very well, i didnt like the darkness of the movie and etc... i liked the Avengers because of their humor and also i found it was very entertaining, as i have seen it about 15 times in a span of 2 months. XDD But all i am saying is that i am a 100% Marvel person, and to be honest i only like one person from DC and that was Rorschach otherwise, i am a Marvel girl
Aug 29 - 02:31 PM
The Dark Knight Rises, by far. Why do people even debate this?
Aug 22 - 09:41 AM
Cause The Avengers is better by far.
Oct 8 - 11:10 PM
XD Bitch please! It's an absolute fact more people like TDKR than the avengers. Go check out IMDB and metacritic.
Dec 8 - 12:20 PM
The Avengers
Aug 21 - 08:41 PM
The dark night is better than both. You can't compare them, one is extremely dark, in a realistic world setting, while one is a fun pop-corn movie.
I like Avengers personally if you compare it to rises.
Jul 27 - 10:57 AM
The Avengers for me. Now, The Dark Knight...that is better than Avengers. Not Rises though. There's just things in Rises that prevent it from being absolutely amazing, like Batman appearing back in Gotham, Gordon sending every cop in Gotham into the sewers, Catwoman killing Bane so easily and fast, there's more. Don't get me wrong, I still give Rises 4 out of 5 cause the acting is great by Hardy, Bale, Hathaway, Oldman, and Caine; the action and visuals are also great. And the overall dark atmosphere and epicness the movie emits is also great. I give Avengers 4 1/2 out 5 cause of the spectacular chemistry between the cast, performances by Downey Jr, Ruffalo, Johansson, and Hiddleston, the amazing action and visuals on display, especially the last like 20-25 min when there all battling together(some of the best I have ever seen), the humor throughout the film that is actually at times even hilarious, a great script with some awesome lines by Loki, Multiple heroes also helps o course, and the fact the film just feels like a huge blockbuster epic(a good one though and you can just feel it).
Jul 23 - 10:52 PM
dkr is the end of a franchise, avengers is the start, you cant compare them, this is only starting off a franchise so i couldnt say which was better
Jul 23 - 02:52 PM
Im gonna go with DKR cause it was more dramatic and action packed (for me) .. and better directing cause come on lets face it , the Avengers villain was pretty BORING!! unlike Bane.. and Nolan did some plot twist too ..
Jul 20 - 03:31 AM
the dark knight rises is wayyyyy beter then the avengers
Jul 15 - 09:54 AM
the dark knight rises 9\10 the avengers 7.5\10
Jul 15 - 09:27 AM
tdk is the best movei of all tims
bat tdkr is less liked then tdr the avengers is not as intersting as the tdk or tdkr but its beter then tdkr becuse its more fan
Jul 13 - 10:33 AM
The Dark Knight Rises by far.
Jul 5 - 04:43 AM
The Avengers is hugely entertaining, fun to watch, it pushed all my comic book buttons in a way they never been pushed before, and I saw it 4 times in the theater.
The Dark Knight Rises is beautifully choreographed and lead by a superb cast, but it's really bloated, it has a choppy first act, and it has too many characters, but the ending was absolutely spectacular!
In the end I would have to go with the Avengers!
Jun 27 - 05:58 PM
The Dark Knight Rises. Period.
Jun 21 - 08:56 PM
You ended your sentence with 3 periods.
Sep 30 - 08:40 PM
Yes i agree TDKR>>>>>>>>>>> Avengers
Dec 8 - 12:22 PM
Jun 21 - 01:00 PM
The Dark Knight Rises Obviusly!! Its a Masterpiece of the The Great Trilogy Of Chris Nolan!! The Avengers is a very good movie!! Is not better than TDKR!!
Jun 15 - 04:29 PM
both are good but the avengers was better
Jun 15 - 06:54 AM
I thought The Avengers was just a little bit better than The Dark Knight Rises.
Jun 12 - 01:47 PM
I prefer TDKR just a bit over Avengers, but love them both.
Jun 8 - 04:04 PM
I didn't care for both, but I'd rather sit through Avengers again than TDKR.
Jun 3 - 10:58 AM
Avengers by far
Jun 1 - 05:18 PM
DKR was so bad the only thing that i liked was Bane and i thought catwoman was forced :/ the avengers is a good bit of fun but it was too long and the dialogue scenes were boring because the dialogue was so bad. Overall i din't like either i'm looking forward to Man of Steel. Im a big comic fan i love superheros and all that stuff.
May 29 - 12:04 AM
Dark knight rises, but we live in a world where we can have both
May 26 - 08:27 AM
dddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! the avengers
May 20 - 03:40 PM
Avengers clearly, because if South Park can make an episode about it then you know it's great.
May 13 - 08:37 PM
buena jaja
May 22 - 11:34 AM
South park made a Bane episode
May 27 - 08:32 PM
If south park can make an episode you know it's shitty.
Dec 8 - 12:23 PM
This seems like a cop out but i call a tie
May 6 - 07:03 PM
If I would put it into number ratings, I would say The Dark Knight Rises is 9.0/10, while The Avengers is 8.9/10.
May 5 - 07:48 AM
bueno, es que avengers es un proyecto unico, y es la primera pelicula de whedon
May 22 - 11:34 AM
avengers is just an average film. look at the plotholes. How was hulk able to control the hulk? How could hawkeye be taken out of his hypnotized trance with just one kick? And do u expect us to think that the professor had coincidentally made a way to shut down that portal device. Oh and the convenience of all the aliens dying phantom menace style after the nuke hit the ship? So power hungry aliens die because you blew up their starship? And Loki was so underpowered. This movie is just average.
May 4 - 08:40 PM
It's a superhero film, dammit.
May 5 - 03:42 PM
fueron 2 patadas en la cabeza y batman me aburrio de principio a fin. y por sus recaudaciones se nota que hubo mas gente que disfruto mas avengers que batman jaja
May 22 - 11:37 AM
The Hulk controlling himself is set up at the end of the Hulk movie when Dr. Banner purposely initiates a transformation while in a yoga pose. Just because he doesn't every time gets what he wants, doesn't mean he is without total control (in the movie world, at least).
The doc building in the safety was coincidental. He says he thinks he did know what he was doing because he built in a safety. This is similar to Hawkeye shooting Nick Fury in the chest instead of in the head. (There is a bad deleted scene on the DVD where Loki confronts Hawkeye about this--it's clear that the mind control is 100% in that scene, even if it is a solid 95% or more.)
I interpreted the aliens were cyborg warriors, not fully independent sentient beings. Is it a convenient way to end the battle, yep, and perhaps a bit forced. But, it made sense to me with the tubes and cables that were on those guys. Not to mention the metal and flesh flying caterpillar thingies. Seemed obvious they were like they were in the same vein as the organic / machine hybrids in the Battlestar Galactica series from a few years back.
Jun 15 - 07:47 AM
*wasn't* coincidental
Jun 15 - 07:48 AM
It's common knowledge that plot holes killed TDKR, not the Avengers.
Sep 30 - 08:44 PM
the avengers. i was slightly let down by tdkr . the first half was probably the best first half out off the three nolan movies, the villain bane was fantastic and the ending was fantastic but the second half turned the movie into a more of an escape from new york movie and not a batman movie, and batman coming out in daytime that just goes against everything and lastly when that army guy says get the president on the line it reminded me of something like tranformers which i really didnt like.. so all in all the avengers i thought was better it was near flawless. now im saying tdkr is a bad movie just the second half.
Apr 20 - 03:36 AM
While both are adapted from comic books, Marvel and DC have split both into separate categories. Marvel is more of a superhero film; containing huge action scenes, humor, and is much more of a blockbuster than anything. Dc on the other hand, especially Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy, is more of a graphic novel. For the most part, DC has gone this route with immense darkness, adult themes, and goes deep in the mindset of the hero and villain, The Dark Knight trilogy, Watchmen, and V for Vendetta as well as the upcoming Man of Steel, are perfect examples. Both Marvel and Dc, for the most part, have done great jobs on both sides. Comparing both is very hard because even to this day comic books and graphic novels could not be more different. The Avengers is the perfect example of a superhero film, while The Dark Knight Rises is a fitting conclusion to a tremendous comic book adaptation trilogy. Your question comes down to this simple question, "Do you prefer comic books or the graphic novel", for me I personally would give the edge to TDKR, but the Avengers is a terrific accomplishment on Marvels part.
Apr 15 - 08:04 PM
Both are equally brilliant.
Apr 14 - 11:03 AM
TDKR was brilliant on all levels, however i preferred TDK. Nolan is just so damn good. Avengers was also brilliant and i just wish Marvel hadn't added all the ego stuff in on top of Joss's more subtle approach. Joss is amazing, not as accomplished at the blockbuster as Nolan, as to be expected, but his humorous side puts him above Nolan in my book. I think when Joss has a few more under his belt we are going to see some true magic.
All in all how do you say one is better than the other. I have no feeling for this sort of comparison here.
Mar 26 - 12:34 AM
I like both for diiferent reasons but Avengers takes it.
Mar 16 - 11:14 PM
One can compare Nolan's bat films with skyfall, as they both had the lead character in a movie franchise that has began to look mr and miss chalk and cheese with a cheery on top. Nolan's films and skyfall were more human and realistic and had finally gotten rid of the fan boys pants that were making it seem ridiculous. Come on, an invisible car and exploding pens. Seriously.
Mar 9 - 03:20 PM
To me Batman has also been more personal and painful compared to that of the marvel movies. There are more social and economical matters at the centre. for DKR, there was a obvious conflict of rich while marvel films tend to lean on just pure i mean just pure science fiction if you catch me drift
Mar 9 - 03:13 PM
They're different movies if you need one to be better than the other you're a desperate fanboy
Mar 9 - 12:13 AM
Spot on.
Mar 9 - 01:52 PM
Can't deny I am... but I wear my fanboy-ness proudly.
Mar 25 - 11:48 AM
I watched them back to back and really enjoyed both.
Batman closes out one of the best trilogies ever. It's clearly a much darker, dramatic movie.
Avengers was awesome though too. Robert Downey Jr. stole the show so it almost felt like Iron man on steriods/ with friends. Iron man was great though so that's meant completely as a compliment.
I guess I don't understand the point of praising one and bashing the other. It's like the MJ vs. Lebron argument everyone loves so much.
Mar 5 - 03:40 AM
I mean, honestly, the Avengers kind of sucked.
Feb 19 - 08:16 PM
TDKR didn't only "kind of" sucked, it actually did... in a monumental way!
Feb 20 - 09:43 PM
I disagree with both of you... both films were awesome but I liked avengers was slightly better...if you wanna compare somthuing compare skyfall and tdkr..
Feb 20 - 10:39 PM
Yeah, because TDKR and Skyfall are the exact same genre. That makes sense.
Feb 22 - 03:47 PM
Finally alex, someone who speaks english!
Mar 14 - 06:46 AM
Apr 8 - 02:39 AM
Jonathan?. you have given no reasons for the Dark Knight Rises to deserve such criticism. Which is really amazing considering how many comments you have posted. The Avengers is nothing new. You can see things like that anywhere. (And if your argument for the Dark Knight Rises sucking is its plot holes, don't even respond because plot holes in the Avengers are much more frequent and bothersome.
Feb 22 - 10:40 PM
You said you saw that I posted comments, have you actually read some of them? If you thought the plot holes were much more frequent and bothersome, hey, that's the way you saw the movie. No harm done there, but comparing the 2 without being able to realize that the plot holes in TDKR are much more potent, then you sir, are mistaken.
Feb 24 - 01:23 AM
"You fight like a young man, with nothing held back. Admirable, but mistaken." It's like that line was written for you.
By the way. Could you list some plot holes in the Dark Knight Rises for me?
Mar 18 - 07:48 PM
Plot Holes:
1. How did Bruce Wayne get back to America when he is broke and has nothing with him.
2. How did Bane who already slipped his way into America leave and then come back without anyone noticing.
3.If they knew that thing could be turned into a bomb how the only security is that it's underground.
4. Joseph Gordon Levitt's character knew Bruce was Batman by the look in his face.
5. Finally, because I am tired of naming them off, how did Batman escape in time not to be vaporized and the fact that the city still would have been effected by the fallout of the nuke.
Apr 10 - 10:33 PM
Thank you Sam!
Apr 11 - 11:32 AM
6. como nadie sospecha que bruce es batman si ambos desaparecieron y aparecieron durante 8 anos
7, por que volaron el puente los policias para asegurar su muerte ellos y no la bomba?
May 22 - 11:43 AM
I hated the Avengers. The Dark Knight Rises was monumental. It was incredible.
Feb 19 - 08:15 PM
dude fuck off you bastard..
Feb 20 - 10:39 PM
Wow. You are incredibly immature?.
Feb 22 - 10:41 PM
Oh, poor Sam. Not everyone agrees with him.
Feb 25 - 01:21 PM
Yo, Mac, what the hell was so bad about The Avengers?
Apr 20 - 03:39 AM
batman me aburruio y the avengers fue epica, asi de simple
May 22 - 11:43 AM
I came out of Avengers knowing I had just witnessed one of the most spectacular action movies of all time. I came out of Dark Knight Rises satisfied with the conclusion of one of the greatest trilogies of all time. Two very different movies, but I'll go with Avengers every time.
Feb 12 - 09:10 AM
Batman is better because it has fantastic action and it is unbelievable that Batman and Catwoman just beat the crap out of bane and Talia A Ghul.
So I prefer Batman
Feb 11 - 09:19 PM
accion fantastica?, mas fantastica son las peliculas de accion de bruce willis incluso jaja
May 22 - 11:45 AM
completely different movies!
Feb 9 - 04:55 AM
The Dark Knight Rises is the better movie in my opinion, the film overall was fantastic, full of action and suspense. I'm a Marvel fan so it is hard for me to say this, but The Avengers was a let down for me. The plot was a mess and it was a series of convenient events after another. For example, The Hulk suddenly able to control himself and the fact the all the aliens dead at the end. Also, Hawkeye was ignored throughout the movie, I think he's a great character and I hope in the next movie he'll have a greater part in the plot.
Feb 4 - 08:06 AM
the avengers fue un proyecto unico mia, batman ya tuvo 7 peliculas, es obvio que tiene mas experiencia, valora eso
May 22 - 11:46 AM
The Dark Knight Rises.
And it's not even close. Don't get me wrong; The Avengers is great. But, its greatness lies solely in its pure entertainment value. It is carried by its wit and non-stop action.
TDKR, on the other hand, is so much more. It's a film with true purpose. The characters and story contain an emotional depth that The Avengers simply does not have.
And though Loki does an adequate job as a villain, he pales in comparison to Bane.
Overall, The Avengers is yet another movie that takes way too long to get to the point, and then only makes a halfhearted attempt at putting forth a comprehensible story. The only saving grace is that the Hulk actually gets to have fun this time around; too bad he's the only one. Joss Whedon is one of the more creative people in the industry, but this just seemed too big for him.
Jan 30 - 06:27 AM
That's your opinion and your perception of the movie, it doesn't make it factual. But, by reading your post, being subjective is not a valid for reviewing movies.
Jan 30 - 09:49 AM
The Dark Knight Rises.
And it?s not even close. Don't get me wrong; The Avengers is great. But, its greatness lies solely in its pure entertainment value. It is carried by its wit and non-stop action.
TDKR, on the other hand, is so much more. It?s a film with true purpose. The characters and story contain an emotional depth that The Avengers simply does not have.
And though Loki does an adequate job as a villain, he pales in comparison to Bane.
Overall, The Avengers is yet another movie that takes way too long to get to the point, and then only makes a halfhearted attempt at putting forth a comprehensible story. The only saving grace is that the Hulk actually gets to have fun this time around; too bad he's the only one. Joss Whedon is one of the more creative people in the industry, but this just seemed too big for him.
Jan 30 - 06:26 AM
Avengers definitely... The dark knight was GOOD no doubt but the story was obviously dragged ... avengers beat the hell out of the dark knight
Jan 29 - 05:42 AM
Jan 24 - 08:08 AM
Two completely different movies.
Jan 19 - 08:40 PM
I agree with you, don't compare them. IF anything compare TDKR to Skyfall, they have essentially similar stories
Feb 3 - 06:41 PM
hey maverick... if you agree with me then why did you post that comment on the tdkr forum saying that i was wrong?
Mar 16 - 02:03 AM
I really don't know what you're talking about. I believe The Avengers, The Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall are all completely different from each other.
Mar 16 - 01:35 PM
This whole Avengers vs. Dark Kinght Rises needs to stop.I saw both and enjoyed both for different reasons. I love The Avengers for being fun and felt like pages of a comic book. I love TDKR for being dark and more grounded in reality.You cant compare the two. I dont mind people saying TDKR is better, but there is no reason to trash The Avengers when they say it's better and Vice Versa. Enjoy Both and be happy!
Jan 19 - 01:36 PM
IT's a tough decision but tdkr defeats the avengers bya small margin......avengers provided action and entertainment while tdkr provided suspese, action and a gripping story....it may not be the best sequel to the dark knight but its prequel did set the bar quite high
so i conclude that on the above mentioned margins the tdkr defeats avengers...
Jan 18 - 11:23 PM
Wow. I have never gotten this much buzz here. Thanks everybody, and keep arguing; it makes for some exciting stuff to read.
Jan 14 - 05:44 PM
The Dark Knight Rises
Jan 8 - 09:38 AM
Avengers: An entertaining, light-hearted, and funny movie. The plot is more on the simple side, but still effective, since theres only so much you can do when you have six superheroes on the same screen. A very good time.
The Dark Knight Rises: A darker, more serious movie. It was deeper and more mature than Avengers. It also had a better villain. Also a very entertaining movie.
Jan 7 - 03:19 PM
Fully agree with you. Still I prefer TDKR, which truly is a "grande finale" for the best superhero film trilogy by now.
Jan 19 - 01:41 AM
BY FAR the Dark Knight Rises
Jan 6 - 11:23 AM
by saying "BY FAR", you mean being "by far" in the same vicinity as great as The Avengers... if so, I totally agree with you, lol
Jan 6 - 03:42 PM
Learn to accept opinions.
Jan 11 - 11:23 PM
I believe sarcasm is an ability not comprehended by all. Read between the lines before making assumptions, dumbass!
Jan 13 - 08:57 PM
oooh, someone's hostile.
Calling me a dumbass doesn't solve anything.
Sarcasm doesn't work well through text on the internet.
Jan 24 - 06:36 PM
Doesn't change the fact that it was very clear about the sarcasm. As I said, not everyone can distinguish it, such as yourself. Just like the fact that you can't come up with decent comebacks, you have to duplicate mine, bravo douchi!! But please, reply only when you get your head out of your ass and have cleaned all the shit...
Jan 27 - 08:40 PM
The Avengers. 20,30 years from now The Avengers is a classic. And while TDK trilogy will be a classic as well(TDK is my favorite film), TDKR will be considered by many "The Return of the Jedi" of the trilogy. And The Avengers will be considered, along with TDK, the pinnacle high points of the Superhero genre. Though, I'm hoping Man of Steel can join those two. Along with Avengers2(it's gonna have such high expectations from so many people though, prob including me lol).
Jan 6 - 10:39 AM
Agreeing with everything you said, except the part about TDK, I believe Heath Ledger's performance will make that movie memorable for ages, not the movie itself, but that's just me.
Jan 6 - 03:44 PM
Agreeing with everything you said, except the part about TDK, I believe Heath Ledger's performance will make that movie memorable for ages, not the movie itself, but that's just me. And TDKR will never be compared to Return of the Jedi, I'd say, if you want to compare with Star Wars movies, it will be considered the Phantom Menace of the trilogy, as it was the weakest one. Batman Begins on the other hand was an instant classic.
Jan 6 - 03:47 PM
Batman Begins is the weakest one. Still good, but I just enjoy the other two more.
Jan 19 - 08:41 PM
The Avengers
Jan 4 - 06:51 AM
THE DARK KNIGHT! (not rises)
Jan 4 - 05:05 AM
The Dark Knight Rises
Jan 3 - 11:52 PM
The Dark Knight Rises, i still liked the Avengersthe first hour and a half actually kept me really entertained, even if i already heard the story already, but the final hour felt so much like a cartoon, you could say i felt like i was watching a kids movie when i was watching it. I also had a huge problem with the casualties of the battle. This apocalyptic battle is going on in New York City (i must also point out that NYC is the largest populated city in the United States), and there isn't a single civilian casualty in it. at least in the dark knight rises there were at least casualties on the good side. At least TDKR wasn't afraid to unleash it's violence. at least the villain in this was ruthless. I am not saying The Avengers is a bad movie, nor am i saying that TDKR is a perfect movie, i'd just put TDKR over The Avengers.
Dec 31 - 07:13 PM
Not arguing or anything, just saying that Avengers is more comic book friendly (meaning that there's violence, but it's not fatal) and TDKR was storied to be more realistic, so it's definitive that there's going to be deaths, on both sides.
Jan 2 - 08:29 PM
Omg totally agree, but Phil :( ahahahah I was laughing at the scene when he died and 10 minutes of mourning, seriously the guy had 2 lines and like you said WAR on the streets no casualties!! oh but Phil..c'mon..i also disliked the costume of Captian America it was way better in his own movie..oh and the conversations!! Long conversations which most of I didn't get, thank God they said TESSERACT! every five minutes cause I would be lost otherwise...Loki not cool at all, guy has a stick with TESSERACT! and he's running and jumping around destroying everything that he can, except people xD..Even Iron Man didn't impress me in this movie and God knows I loooove Iron Man..It was just silly to me, no disrespect to people who loved it...Maybe it was because i loved them all on their own and i was expecting too much or maybe because i was high, but hey i was high watching TDKR and enjoyed it both times :O...Actually there is one thing that i loved, Scarlet in action, but that's all...I can't understand the ratings for The Avengers, the movie left me completely blank, it's just rubbish and boredom in my head and i wanted to love it so much :( so yeah The Dark Knight Rises
Jan 29 - 03:20 PM
Agujeros del diagrama en batman:
1. �C�mo Bruce Wayne a volver a los Estados Unidos cuando se le rompi� y no tiene nada con �l.
2. �C�mo Bane que ya pas� el camino en Am�rica salir y luego regresar sin que nadie se diera cuenta.
3.En caso de que sab�an que algo se podr�a convertir en una bomba de c�mo la �nica seguridad es que es subterr�neo.
4. El personaje de Joseph Gordon Levitt sab�a Bruce era Batman por la mirada en su rostro.
5. Por �ltimo, porque estoy cansado de nombrar a retirarse, �c�mo Batman escapar a tiempo para no ser vaporizado y el hecho de que la ciudad todav�a se habr�a efectuado por las consecuencias de la bomba nuclear.
May 22 - 11:51 AM
las victimas en the avengers se ven las escenas eliminadas
May 22 - 11:49 AM
There were definitely some casualties in the film. At the end on the news, you saw some people showing honor to their loved ones that passed away.
Jul 27 - 12:18 AM
The Dark Knight Rises
Dec 30 - 10:08 PM
The Dark Knight Rises is an atrocity, it was never even in the same vicinity as perfect. Because that perfect end you're talking about has the same story line as Batman Begins. So what's the point of adding to the story when you recycle your own material to retell the same thing twice in a trilogy?
Dec 30 - 09:04 PM
learn to accept opinions douche and shut the hell up bitching about TDKR, god!
May 15 - 11:05 PM
First off, I do accept opinions. Second, I am giving mine, so STFU and accept mine and third, why is it not okay to bring out the movies flaws (Which are many) and accept that it is just a real bad movie?
May 25 - 10:30 PM
First off, I do accept opinions. Second, I am giving mine, so STFU and accept mine and third, why is it not okay to bring out the movies flaws (Which are many) and accept that it is just a real bad movie?
May 25 - 10:30 PM
tienes razon jonatan, a mi batman me aburrio
May 22 - 11:52 AM
Since I really didn't like The Avengers, I can easily say that The Dark Knight Rises is better.
Dec 30 - 04:29 AM
I'll admit that this movie was GREAT. However, I am more with Batman and DC Comics since The Dark Knight is the 2nd GREATEST Superhero of ALL Time behind the Man of Steel. My disappointment is that Warner Bros. & DC Comics should have made a Justice League live-action film a few years before this movie came out. I am sure they (as well as I) are feeling the "Sputnik Syndrome".
Dec 26 - 02:41 AM
you do realize that Man of Steel hasn't come out yet right, so how can it be on the top of the list?
Dec 31 - 06:58 PM
Loved the Avengers. The Avengers was faithful to the comics while TDKR was lousy & all was never faithful to the Batman mythos.
Dec 24 - 10:50 PM
Something being true to the source material doesn't define greatness. What defines its greatness is its complexity and its emotional depth. The Avengers lacks those 2 things. The Dark Knight Rises actually interpreted parts of the comics. It brought the Batman universe into our reality with something we can relate to. Instead of ridiculous explosions, and an alien army because the writers couldn't come up with any clever enemy.
Feb 19 - 07:58 PM
Dec 23 - 01:20 PM
I think they're both too different to compare. Guess that doesn't really add much to the conversation...
Dec 22 - 11:50 AM
Short an sweet version: Avengers>TDKR
Seeing as how i completely agree with Jonathan Martin; restating what he said would be redundant and pointless.
Dec 13 - 02:34 PM
Both were really good. But I prefer TDKR
Dec 13 - 12:15 PM
The Avengers was terrible. Boring, predictable nothing new. I fell asleep.
Dec 9 - 04:30 PM
While I highly enjoyed both Avengers and Dark Knight Rises, I choose Rises. Avengers is fun, light entertainment. But I don't want to undermine it's fantastic writing. With that said, Rises appeals to me more by being a more "serious" film. I felt an emotional connection with the story and it's characters, and felt more invested with what was happening. I never felt worried for the characters in Avengers, which i guess added to the fun, but in Rises, I was worried about Jim Gordon and Bruce Wayne throughout the film. Anyways, I own both movies on blu-ray and enjoy watching both.
Dec 7 - 12:01 AM
The Avengers by a long shot. TDKR was not a good ending to a trilogy.
Dec 3 - 10:39 PM
I would say Avengers, honestly; it fit (and exceeded) my expectations more so than TDKR. TDKR is a movie that I'm glad I saw, but wouldn't be terribly enthusiastic to view again; I wouldn't mind viewing Avengers on occasion.
Dec 1 - 08:39 AM
I have to say "The Dark Knight Rises". I have no favor in Marvel or DC, I just like superheroes in general so I don't favor Batman automatically. "The Avengers" was a slap to the face, for me personally. It felt like a giant stand-up comedy routine that didn't take itself seriously and overall came off as a spoof with a big budget. Hulk now comes out with the flick of an internal light swtich? Welp, there goes the reason I love Hulk; the anticipation, the caution that Banner took to prevent himself and when he couldn't, his nightmare becomes an uncontrollable reality. Gone. Thanks. Another thing, why is Captain America treated like the least important member? It seemed like no one in the movie gave a rats a** about him: AND HE'S THE LEADER!
Not saying TDKR is perfect, but Avengers just disgusted me.
Nov 29 - 09:16 AM
You clearly do not know what you are talking about!! Everything in The Avengers was spot on!! The acting, the story, the characters, EVERYTHING!! Unlike its competition... TDKR was a crime drama that so happens to feature Batman, how lame is that? Nolan failed to capture the essential of what the caped crusader should have been : A determined, dynamic and resourceful person that can persevere through anything without doubting or second guessing himself. The 3rd Nolan Batman was a disgrace and nothing less...
Dec 2 - 11:48 PM
I have the right to hold an opinion, sir. As I have said before, I do not personally favor Marvel or DC. I look at the majority of it as a casual comic book fan and as one who loves to go to the movies. Now, maybe it's because Avengers had a plot involving an alien invasion, which I have grown tired of lately with so many movies using a similar set up. And I know The Avengers does protect Earth against alien threats, for the most part. I may have been too harsh on it, but I do see some obvious flaws in both movies, not just one. Although I do know that TDKR is based off of many Batman storylines, mainly "Knightfall", "No Man's Land", and "The Dark Knight Returns". Yes, it is a bit sloppy in delivery, but it's not some average crime drama. To be fair, neither movie extremely impressed me besides a few emotional scenes in TDKR. Maybe I would've enjoyed Avengers if it took itself more seriously
Dec 3 - 04:57 AM
I don't favor Marvel nor DC, I am like you, looking to enjoy a good movie. That said, I felt empty after watching TDKR and I felt overly satisfied after watching The Avengers. So maybe our tastes in movies may look similar, but our expectations are totally different.
Dec 3 - 03:16 PM
Fair enough, I can agree with that. I am getting tired of, and I'm not targeting you, people bashing other people's opinions because they think Avengers is the greatest movie of all time and anyone that says otherwise should burn at the stake.
Same thing with Heath Ledger as The Joker. He was fantastic with what he was given, but there are people out there that strongly feel Joker should be retired from film forever and that Ledger is some sort of acting god. To be honest, I don't like Nolan's Joker at all and Heath did the best he could with what he was given. But it's so absurd to see so many people act like there is no one better than one person.
Dec 6 - 04:47 AM
Totally agree!! Although I loved Ledger's Joker, I thought he was what made the movie intriguing.
They can't retire Joker, because without him, there is no Batman, IMO.
It may look like I'm bashing, but I always give an explanation to counter what people are saying. I don't just say "f*** y**" and you suck. I try to give reason to my argument
Dec 7 - 08:20 AM
Quick shout-out to you, i completely agree, and thought that you should know.
Dec 13 - 02:35 PM
Jonathan Martin you need TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!! I've been reading everyone's post and you are by far the most annoying person on this thread. Your bashing on everyone who likes/loves TDKR and then take offence when someone makes a negative comment about your precious avengers. Yes, we know you LOVE the avengers now why don't you go play hide and go fuck yourself.
Feb 22 - 11:56 AM
OOOoooouuhh! Geez! You got offended by my criticism real quick. I didn't not "bash" anyone, I bashed the movie, yes. You clearly have a short temper and can't handle the fact that this is an opinion-based thread. It is clear that you are a troll with the mental capacity of a rock since all you did was get angry and ran your mouth with profanities. Next time, try to think before writing something, until then, fuck off grasshopper!!
Mar 10 - 09:47 PM
OOOoooouuhh! Geez! You got offended by my criticism real quick. I didn't "bash" anyone, I bashed the movie, yes. You clearly have a short temper and can't handle the fact that this is an opinion-based thread. It is clear that you are a troll with the mental capacity of a rock since all you did was get angry and ran your mouth with profanities. Next time, try to think before writing something, until then, fuck off grasshopper!!
Mar 10 - 09:47 PM
Oh and just so you can understand, if you can't stand other people's opinions, then you should not be here!! You would actually be better at hiding and fucking yourself, so that's a good place to start. You only made yourself look like a complete idiot for lacking the brain power to comprehend others... I suggest sticking to your coloring books, they suit you more, dumbass!
Mar 10 - 09:59 PM
Hey, Austin Williamson, I also agree with you. Basically, all your points/counterpoints were spot-on what I believe. TDKR > AVENGERS.
Dec 31 - 08:28 AM
TDKR by a long shot! Hell, Batman by Tim Burton was better than avengers
Nov 28 - 09:18 AM
Funny you should say that... because TDKR was the worst film ever to feature a comic book character!!! The Avengers movie knew what they were doing and gave us a story and the acting of a worthy comic book movie. TDKR was a massively over-dramatized soap opera!! It was a superficial movie, where the cast was one of the best to ever have been put on screen (Bale, Oldman, Hardy, Hathaway, Murphy, Caine, Cotillard, Freeman and Gordon-Levitt)but it was eye-candy, because even they couldn't save this shipwreck of a movie!!! It had no soul at all, it felt rushed and lacking.
Dec 2 - 11:37 PM
Funny you should say that... because TDKR was the worst film ever to feature a comic book character!!! The Avengers movie knew what they were doing and gave us a story and the acting of a worthy comic book movie. TDKR was a massively over-dramatized soap opera!! It was a superficial movie, where the cast was one of the best to ever have been put on screen (Bale, Oldman, Hardy, Hathaway, Murphy, Caine, Cotillard, Freeman and Gordon-Levitt)but it was eye-candy, because even they couldn't save this shipwreck of a movie!!! It had no soul at all, it felt rushed and lacking.
Just to compare, Resident Evil 5 was more entertaining than this crappy excuse for a movie...
Dec 2 - 11:40 PM
Are you including Batman and Robin, Catwoman, and Green Lantern in that statement??
Dec 16 - 03:07 PM
No, Batman and Robin and Catwoman were as mediocre as TDKR, as for Green Lantern, I think it's an underrated film because the story was comic book plausible. The only thing I disagree with the movie was that Hal Jordan was never a sarcastic guy, but in the movie's defense, they implied on it to show the transition from that guy into the hero he became.
Dec 17 - 10:38 PM
I'd go so far as to say that Batman and Robin and Catwoman are worse than TDKR, which is actually good by the way.
Feb 2 - 06:53 PM
I've generally been leaning towards your opinions on this forum thus far, Jonathan, but I am inclined to disagree with you here. TDKR is not great. It's something orbiting the state of "pretty good", in my mind, mostly just because it felt very disappointing to me. It was in NO way the worst comic book movie ever, though, at least with the emphasis on "movie" in that statement (rather than "comic book" - it was a generally messy, lukewarm adaptation of the several graphic novels it was based on). However, I would rather see something convoluted, confused and with a disappointing climax than to see something as abominable as Green Lantern EVER again. That movie was simply tripe.
Batman and Robin is a TINY bit entertaining (read: amusing) just due to how brain-searingly awful it is; the same applies to Catwoman, too, from what little I've seen of it.
TDKR does have a lot going for it, though. I think you're generally focusing too much on its few issues...they are certainly detrimental issues, I'll grant you that, but they don't completely ruin the entire endeavor. Not in my opinion, anyway.
I really, really enjoyed The Avengers, but I'll also admit that it had several problems (the bored overuse of the alien invasion plotline for one, the lack of any mentioned casualties for another...and a completely nonthreatening central villain.) However, to me, its unrelenting pace, humor, fantastic acting, and general sense of bliss were something sublime. On the other hand, I honestly think I might have enjoyed TDKR much more had I not seen the other two Nolan films (and the first Burton film), as I don't think it compares very well to THEM, but it's still an epic, thought-provoking, and dire story (you can't really use those words to describe Avengers, without stretching their meaning).
Just thought I'd share my thoughts. Don't be TOO hard on TDKR. It's not Twilight. And it's CERTAINLY not Green Lantern.
Jan 8 - 01:01 PM
As I mentioned before, TDKR portrayed Batman as a totally opposite person of who he's suppose to be. The movie was long, overrated and too many plot tying elements that was incoherent.
In my opinion, Green Lantern is the best movie that came out of the DC universe since the first Superman with Christopher Reeves.
I may have been harsh, but it's how disappointed I've been while watching this bore of a movie.
I respect your opinion about the movie and I do see your point of view, but I politely disagree.
Jan 8 - 08:56 PM
Thanks for your polite response! I only noticed the difference in dates between our posts after I composed mine, lol, so I doubted I'd get a response very quickly, if ever.
I respect your opinion that Green Lantern rocks - I'm glad that someone likes it. It must have a very low self-esteem. Maybe you can be its support group.
I just wanted to add that it's interesting that you have such a problem with Nolan's Batman acting so antithetical to the Batman of the comics, while, as you pointed out earlier, Hal Jordan's character is grossly misrepresented in Green Lantern as well. Different takes on a classic character aren't always bad at all (in stage productions/films, Pontius Pilate has had 7 distinct personalities/interpretations throughout the character's long life; also, RDJ's reinvention of Iron Man was a great improvement on the character, imo). So, clearly, the problem arises when the viewer finds the change in the character distasteful. I respect the fact that you dislike Bale's Batman. For me, though, I certainly recognize the alteration in Bruce's personality/behavior here, but it didn't make me want to strangle him throughout this trilogy, unlike poor Ryan Reynolds's portrayal in Lantern - the guy was born to play either Flash or Deadpool (or maybe Lobo, too?? I don't know).
But I really hated where he took Hal Jordan. It's a problem when I am empathizing and rooting for the villains (Sinestro and especially Hector) while hating the hero's cocky, spiteful, wrathful, jock guts. I know you argue that the movie uses Hal's initially despicable personality as a way to show character development and improvement, but...well, if such improvement occurred it was far too muted to be noticeable. If he'd saved Hector's life or done something equally awe-inspiringly heroic and life-risking for someone who he would have ordinarily disdained (or even just disregarded), I would agree with you that he had grown (and it might have saved the movie for me, despite the multitude of issues I have with it). It just felt far too little to justify Hal's "heroic turn." And don't get me started on Parallax's portrayal and usage in the film. x_x
I was really hoping for Green Lantern's success, as I wanted another superhero from DC to score his (or her) own series (which would have opened the gates, much like Marvel); sadly, I think GL did just as little as Superman Returns in breathing new life into the public's interest in DC. I'm very curious to see if they'll keep Ryan on board for the Justice League - it'd be nice to have at least one familiar face, if the upcoming release date for JL is as permanent as it seems.
I'm curious; what were your thoughts on Loki in Avengers? I was wholly disappointed with the way Joss used him. I don't even think Joss or Tom Hiddleston understood Loki's motivations in the movie, nor what had transpired for the character since Thor. I hope that all is explained in Thor 2! Doing so would raise my esteem for the Avengers plotline significantly, actually. However, even if those were answered, I still feel like Loki was used...flimsily. Which, admittedly, is a sort of original idea for a superhero movie (to have a villain so hopelessly outgunned and outwitted and unthreatening)...but the comics Loki would have employed any number of Asgardian or Frost/Storm Giant spells and reality-manipulation to give the heroes a true challenge. I would have much rather had the team face overpowered Loki (summoning dragons, living trees, demons, Lovecraftian horrors, and enormous attack hounds and whatnot) rather than a bunch of aliens with no more depth and threat than the Battle Droids in The Phantom Menace. :)
Jan 9 - 09:01 AM
Ok, I never said I disliked Bale's interpretation of Batman, I just did not like the movie TDKR. Most of the characters were great (James Blake, Bane, Joker, Gordon, Alfred, Bruce/Batman). It's just the concluding installment that was too much grabbing here and there to complete all the story arcs.
I do understand what you mean by saying Ryan Reynolds should have been more suitable for Deadpool of Flash (I think Deadpool would be his "soulmate" role), but seeing him as Hal Jordan was perhaps his way of saying to the world that he isn't the same "Van Wilder-esque" actor (awesome movie btw, lol) in every role he plays. (If you saw Safehouse, you'd see what I'm trying to say, also good movie, hehe) The biggest disappointment from Green Lantern was Blake Lively, I thought she was so out place in that role and the direction she took the role. She wasn't believable and during most romance scenes, it felt a little awkward. But I don't blame Reynolds for any of the movie's fault. I thought he, Mark Strong and Peter Sarsgaard were what the movie enjoyable.
I do agree with you on the Parallax point of view, I thought he ended looking like a giant cloud, pretty much like the villain in Fantastic Four : Rise of the Silver Surfer. Hal Jordan's personality, well the way I say it, was not muted. The only reason why Hector could not be saved is because it was a case of absolutions : save Hector, Carol dies or Hector dies, save Carol.
My thoughts on Loki are that he's a great and complex character. Tom Hiddleston played this role the best way he could and I thought it was great. The emotion, the passion and the sheer sincerity in his voice and actions made Loki his own role. In Avengers, Loki's "inner conflicts" were the direct result of what happen in Thor, he still envies Thor for being the favorite and he still wants to be powerful. He uses his "silver tongue" to convince the Chutari that he will help them rule the world in exchange for that power he seeks. I think he was unnecessary for the movie, but for what they did, it worked for me.
I do agree with your Loki summoning all sorts of shit instead of Chutaris.
Jan 9 - 09:46 PM
Agujeros del diagrama:
1. �C�mo Bruce Wayne a volver a los Estados Unidos cuando se le rompi� y no tiene nada con �l.
2. �C�mo Bane que ya pas� el camino en Am�rica salir y luego regresar sin que nadie se diera cuenta.
3.En caso de que sab�an que algo se podr�a convertir en una bomba de c�mo la �nica seguridad es que es subterr�neo.
4. El personaje de Joseph Gordon Levitt sab�a Bruce era Batman por la mirada en su rostro.
5. Por �ltimo, porque estoy cansado de nombrar a retirarse, �c�mo Batman escapar a tiempo para no ser vaporizado y el hecho de que la ciudad todav�a se habr�a efectuado por las consecuencias de la bomba nuclear.
7. por que nadie sospecha que bruce es batman si ambos desaparecieron por 8 anos?
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usmcbradley2003 said...
All right lets here it, Icecrown is easymode......I know someones really thinking it and not being sarcastic
usmcbradley2003 said...
Im not disagreeing with you one bit. I know personally this guy will wipe the floor with my face when I see him
a) This content is still being tested, so you don't know how easy it'll be on live.
b) The first few bosses of a raid are usually pretty simple (see: the first half of Ulduar). I expect that the "powerful Death Knight" will be the first tricky boss.
c) You don't get to complain about how easy a raid is until you've completed the hard modes.
usmcbradley2003 said...
I'm not disagreeing. I mean can't people tell from the second sentence that I am being sarcastic and waiting for someone to be serious. Jeez
Yeah, that's the problem with a comment rating system for blog posts... they're opinion based. If someone THINKS you might have an opposite opinion to theirs, you'll be downrated to oblivion. You may even have a valid point, it doesn't matter though.
PROTIP: saying "...know I'll get downranked for this..." is an autowin to 3+ stars. Happens ALL THE TIME on digg. Makes you look like a martyr, and them hipsters love the underdogs!
I have actually not noticed that. Well-formulated and thoughtful posts seem to get upranked, independent of the opinion stated in it. I have, several times actually, seen arguments with all people being upranked. The problem is that some opinions (like people being elitist) is being held by people who just use it to be offensive. And then they get downranked.


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The Falcons pulled out all the stops against Michael Vick and the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday night at the Georgia Dome.
They revamped the defense, passed out white flags and even brought in actor Samuel L. Jackson to whip the crowd into a euphoric frenzy as he told them to "Rise up."
Quarterback Matt Ryan, tight end Tony Gonzalez and running back Michael Turner heard the pleas and helped to lead the Falcons to a 35-31 victory before a nationally-televised Sunday night audience.
Part of the battle for Ryan was not to get caught up in the hype over Vick's return to Atlanta as a starting quarterback.
"I've got a lot of respect for our guys in the locker room for handling everything the right way and focusing the entire week," Ryan said.
It was a brutal and hard-hitting affair with Vick and Ryan spending an ample amount of time down on the Georgia Dome turf.
Vick, the former signal-caller for the Falcons who has rebuilt his career after serving time in federal prison for dog-fighting related charges, left the game in the third quarter with a concussion. He was wrestled to the ground by Falcons safety William Moore. Vick He was roundly booed
by the fans as he pointed to scoreboard, which showed a 31-21 Philadelphia lead at the time.
"When he goes out that changes the dynamic of what they are trying to do as an offense," Gonzalez said. "We said it on the sideline, if he's not in there they are going to struggle a little bit."
Ryan, who struggled for most of the game, got hot in the no-huddle attack and Turner broke loose for a key 61-yard run.
"We didn't want to fall to 0-2," Turner said.
Ryan led the Falcons on two 80-yard touchdown drives in the fourth quarter.
"We needed to score on each possession because it was now or never," Gonzalez said. "We switched things up, went to the no-huddle offense and were able to get them on their heels."
Gonzalez was simply dazzling as he had seven catches for 83 yards and two touchdowns. Turner finished with 114 yards on 21 carries. He put the Falcons ahead for good with a 3-yard touchdown run with 4:48 left in the game.
Ryan threw a career-high four touchdown passes as the Falcons (1-1) bounced back from a season-opening loss. The Eagles dropped to 1-1.
A revamped Atlanta defensive unit, which opened with James Sanders at free safety for Thomas DeCoud and Kelvin Hayden at nickel back for Christopher Owens, started out strong and stopped the Eagles on the first two possessions.
Falcons punt returner Eric Weems next broke loose for a 19-yard runback, setting up the offense at Philadelphia's 38-yard line and leading to a quick opening score. Ryan threw a 2-yard touchdown pass to Roddy White for a 7-0 lead, capping a seven-play drive.
The Eagles responded by mixing in quick-hitting run plays to move down the field. The Falcons appeared to have the Eagles stopped, but defensive end John Abraham was offside after a Vick pass fell incomplete on third down. The Eagles likely would have settled for a field goal, but the penalty gave them a first down.
Two plays later, Philadelphia scored when Vick found Jeremy Maclin wide open on a crossing route for a 4-yard touchdown to tie it up at 7-7
The Eagles next found holes in the Falcons' zone defense. On a third-and-6 from the 41, Vick connected with Jason Avant for a 29-yard gain with Sanders in coverage.
"It felt good to get out there with the guys, but I personally have a lot of work to do," Sanders said. "That was my first extended action on the field this entire season. I only played one quarter in the preseason."
The defense held the Eagles to a field goal after middle linebacker Curtis Lofton deflected a pass in the end zone. Philadelphia's Alex Henery kicked a 22-yard field goal for a 10-7 lead with 6:46 left in the second quarter.
The Eagles later drove from their 30 to the Falcons' 4-yard line, ready to pad their lead. On first-and-goal, defensive tackle Peria Jerry pummeled Vick while he was trying to pitch the ball and it came loose. Defensive end Ray Edwards scooped up the fumble and rumbled for 64 yards before he was caught from behind by the Philly's fleet DeSean Jackson.
"I was trying to score," Edwards said. "My God father and my daughter are back there in the family room and they are ready to give me some grief about getting caught."
The Falcons had first-and-10 from the Eagles 24. After a 13-yard pass to Gonzalez, a 5-yard run by Jacquizz Rodgers' 5-yard run and Turner's 2-yard run, Gonzalez made a spectacular one-handed touchdown grab in the back of the end zone over linebacker Jamar Chaney, reclaiming a 14-10 Atlanta lead.
The half ended after an exchange of turnovers, Vick fumbling again and Ryan throwing an interception.
Opening the second half, the Falcons couldn't move the ball and punted. From his 40, Vick was chased by Sanders and threw an interception to Hayden. Taking advantage, the Falcons struck quickly with a 32-yard pass to Michael Turner and a 17-yard touchdown pass to Gonzalez to make it 21-10.
However, the Eagles regrouped and regained the lead with two of their trademark quick-strike drives, the second after another Ryan interception.
Philadelphia's 70-yard drive took just 1:56 off the clock, with Maclin scoring on a 36-yard screen play to pull the Eagles within 21-17.
The visitors weren't done either. After Asante Samuel picked off a Ryan pass intended for Julio Jones, the Eagles' LeSean McCoy scored on an 8-yard run to put his team ahead 24-21.
McCoy added another touchdown on a 2-yard run with 1:59 left in the third quarter, upping the Eagles' lead to 31-21, but Vick went out and momentum shifted to Atlanta.
It was time for the Falcons to turn things over to Ryan and their no-huddle attack and stop the Eagles third-string quarterback Mike Kafka, who had to play because Vince Young, the No. 2 quarterback was injured.
After the two touchdown drives and the defensive stop, the Falcons coache's miscalculated the time and had to punt to the dangerous Jackson.
"That was probably a coaching error, we needed to run the ball," Falcons coach Mike Smith said. "Not probably, it was a coaching error."
The game wasn't decided Lofton batted down the hail mary pass in the endzone.
September 19th, 2011
2:56 am
September 19th, 2011
5:08 am
Clearly Ryan ran for his life most of the game, when he not on his back. The bright side is that Baker didn't getting a holding call. That mostly because his man knocked him on his caboose and ran around him all night. Nice to see the win.
Wonder what the Saint fan doing?
September 19th, 2011
6:10 am
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September 19th, 2011
6:16 am
The good: The last two drives in the fourth Quarter were really good. Good play calls and good execution.
The bad: It took 3 quarters for the offense to show up.
September 19th, 2011
6:24 am
Defense played much better despite the points given up. Dunta was the exception, he was out of position most of the game. The O-line is gonna get Matt killed if they dont get some help in there. Great LB and D-line play for most of the game. Much better tackling overall. Special Teams coverage was fantastic. Still wish Weems was not letting some many punts hit the ground and roll. Fair catch it man, Dont let you team start from the half-yard line.
September 19th, 2011
6:26 am
A revamped Atlanta defensive unit, which opened with James Sanders at free safety for Thomas DeCoud and Kelvin Hayden at nickel back for Christopher Owens, started out strong and stopped the Eagles on the first two possessions.
Looks like one of the top recommendations from the blogs was taken. While there is still work to be done, incremental improvement was noticed.
September 19th, 2011
8:47 am
The Kicking Game!
My BREATH kicks harder than Bosher! Just release this guy and go find us a NFL kicker. Anybody on the practice squad?
September 19th, 2011
9:18 am
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September 19th, 2011
10:24 am
September 19th, 2011
10:31 am
What was Dimitroff thinking when he gave up so much for JJ AND signed Bosher as the kicker for a projected Superbowl team?
Julio is at least a year away from having a major impact and Bosher is at best a game away from being cut!!
September 19th, 2011
11:01 am
could be more wrong about Jones, he is making quite an impact right now.
September 19th, 2011
12:05 pm
Probably the main thing I took away from this game is that Ryan needs to be running a no huddle offense just like Manning. I don't know if Murlarky or whoever is calling the plays when they huddle but they are so predictable. It seems when Matty goes no huddle he has a better grasp of what is surrounding him and he is more deliberate in his play. But when they use the huddle it just looks like he is lost and confused. I think Robertson is one of the weakest cover men in our defense. He seems to be running around in circles and lost. Yea he can hit but he can't cover. And last and least if you could not see the bias in the Refs last night you had to be blind. It was such a bad called game I could not beleve it.
September 19th, 2011
12:21 pm
Go Falcs – but is future cost worth the current reward? We gave up a heck of a lot of high draft picks to get him when WR wasn't really a huge need.
September 19th, 2011
12:25 pm
Great game. We needed the win and we got it. Edwards showed up last night, and that fumble return really turned the game around. Eagles would have gone up 17-7. The offense did what it could. The receivers didn't have big games because the OL was horrible and they were up against the best trio of CBs on any team. It allowed Tony G to have a big night though. Turner keeps pounding till he finally breaks one free. it's happened in both games now. Finally got Samuel L Jackson to show up, lol. Go Falcons!!
September 19th, 2011
12:54 pm
debatable r brown, debatable. some would say the presence of a real threat like jones makes throws like those to tony g more makeable and frees up roddy, too. I see your point though.
September 19th, 2011
1:02 pm
Where are Chandler Going Deep, Choke, hiramsaint, JSS, seenthisB4, and so forth? They can dish it out but can't take it.
September 19th, 2011
1:03 pm
Oh, and Peria Jerry welcome to the NFL! Nice to see you busting through the Eagles O Line to force that fumble. Please continue!
September 19th, 2011
1:16 pm
Chris Collinsworth can just ruin a good game.
September 19th, 2011
1:37 pm
Chaz Henry won the Ray Guy Award last year, was undrafted and is a local product from East Paulding High. We draft Bosher? T.D. missed on this one.
September 19th, 2011
1:52 pm
1) O line has serious problems. This is causing Ryan to lose confidence and play tentatively (see Joey Harrington after one year with the Lions for a reference point)
2) V Gorder still can't consistently call defensive plays – especially red-zone coverage and goal-line stands. (Team was lucky Maclin dropped the ball on fourth down) – Fire the college coach. Smith should call defense.
3) Ryan is a better offensive coordinator than Mularkey, Bologna, or whatever his name is.
4) Glad they won but we are miles away from being great.
September 19th, 2011
2:26 pm
Falcon Jim and Captain Obvious – I couldn't agree more.
I just want to send a little message to Michael D.ick.
You see the scoreboard now??!!
I also have a little fin.ger for you. ollo
September 19th, 2011
5:40 pm
Steve-O, they are busted and probably sitting in the dark crying.
September 19th, 2011
5:45 pm
i guess if you can't win with football skill….play dirty. i can't understand why y'all had so much trouble with the bears. you should have played them dirty too!
September 19th, 2011
6:29 pm
Boy hiram, that's a good one. A Saint fan calling another team dirty. I do feel bad for you that they apparently don't air your teams games where you live.
September 19th, 2011
7:16 pm
I don't know how we managed to win that game despite all of our weaknesses being exposed and exploited. OL aside from Clabo and Blalock needs to be replaced. Baker is terrible.
September 19th, 2011
7:35 pm
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September 19th, 2011
7:40 pm
Hey Coach how come the Patriots OL gives Brady all day to throw the rock and your OL is getting IceMelt crushed?
That split Patty did while getting crush was simply amazing..Talk about being flexible? Saved his season……lol
September 19th, 2011
8:30 pm
dgbiscuit- they air them where you live and you love it.


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Agnostic Front is an American crossover thrash band. The band began playing hardcore punk similar to their contemporaries, and were thrust to the forefront of the burgeoning New York hardcore scene in the mid-1980s with their widely regarded 1984 classic Victim in Pain before incorporating thrash metal elements into their music.
Agnostic Front
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