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Observations: Lions 23 - Bills 0
by Joe Buscaglia
posted Aug 29 2014 12:56AM
At long last, the marathon summer that was Buffalo Bills training camp and the preseason has mercifully met its demise. A third straight exhibition contest that yielded frustrating results for the first-team offense was seen by all in Ralph Wilson Stadium, and it didn't provide the hopeful momentum head coach Doug Marrone was looking for.
The Bills fell to the Detroit Lions 23-0 to wrap up their fifth and final preseason game with some uninspiring results along the way. What was learned in the last tuneup for the Bills ahead of the regular season? Here are some observations from the team's most recent loss:
Another frustrating night for Manuel
- Due to a poor performance against Tampa Bay on Saturday night, Buffalo Bills head coach Doug Marrone decided to let his starting offense get the full first quarter against Detroit on Thursday. The results were not as bad as it was against the Buccaneers, but they weren't much better, either. In three total drives, the Bills managed 55 total yards, four first downs (one from a penalty) and allowed two sacks. Quarterback EJ Manuel ended the day with 56 yards passing, having connected on 3-of-7 attempts. There were some opportunities missed along the way for the second-year quarterback. Manuel had an open Sammy Watkins along the sidelines on a rollout after the cornerback fell down in coverage. Manuel didn't spot Watkins even though he appeared to be in his sightline, and instead threw the ball away and out of bounds. On a later third down attempt, Manuel correctly spotted Robert Woods down the field on a crossing pattern about 18 yards down the field. He delivered the ball a bit too high, and a bit too wide and while it was technically catchable, it wasn't anywhere near where it should have been placed. The worst example, though, was on the play that ended up in another Watkins injury. It was a simple slant route that Manuel eyed down right from the snap. Lions linebacker Ashlee Palmer read the quarterback's eyes and bolted over to the receiver. The throw was about a yard ahead of where it needed to be and it put Watkins in a position to take a big hit, which is precisely what happened. Manuel made a couple of sound decisions in the game, but the offense in total was completely inefficient.
Watkins gets hurt: was the risk worth it?
- Marrone and the Bills made the interesting decision to play Watkins despite him just coming back from an injury to his ribs. The wide receiver was in fact cleared to play by the medical staff, but in many cases all over the league, teams will often exercise caution when it comes to their marquee players in preseason games. Marrone explained after the game that he was excited to get Watkins in a game with Manuel because the two didn't have as much experience with one another in games as he would have liked. Was the risk of further injury worth it, though? As former Bills linebacker Darryl Talley pointed out on Twitter, Palmer took a forearm right to the ribs of Watkins in what he called "knowing your opponent." A healthy and playable Watkins without much game day experience with Manuel is far more valuable than a banged up and experienced rookie wideout heading into the regular season. The severity of the rookie's injury has yet to be determined, but he was still put in a bad situation by both the coach and the quarterback. Even if he didn't get hurt against the Lions, the sentiment would remain. If a player is slightly injured and important to the immediate future of the franchise, don't put them at risk for further injury in a meaningless preseason game. It's that simple.
Palmer channels his inner Leinart
- Just three days ago, the Bills signed quarterback Jordan Palmer to come in an audition for the backup quarterback role with the team. On Tuesday he practiced, he went through a walk through on Wednesday and then got his big chance Thursday evening. After what was witnessed, it's safe to say that he would have liked to have the majority of the game against the Lions back. Palmer finished the game completing 9-of-22 passes for 73 yards, and threw three interceptions along the way. Granted, it's quite a tough situation for Palmer to walk into and try to perform at a high level. Without much time to prepare, he had to operate an offense he wasn't familiar with. It was, however, reminiscent of what was seen in the 2013 preseason finale from Matt Leinart. Having been acquired just days before their game with the Lions, Leinart completed only three passes for minimal yards, threw two interceptions and was benched by the head coach. Expect the Bills to comb the waiver wire for players that get cut over the next two days because, to put it bluntly, the franchise is not at all happy with the level of skill the backups on the roster have shown.
A lesson in accountability for EJ Manuel
- Here are two quotes from quarterbacks on the Bills roster Thursday night:
"I got a couple of drops on third downs, but as far as going to the right place with the ball, I thought I did a pretty good job."
"There were different reasons as to why things didn't go the right way tonight but I own all of them. I'm the quarterback, I'm the one back there pulling the trigger so I've got to make better decisions and move the team and score, and I'm frustrated I couldn't do that tonight."
One of these quotes is from a quarterback that has been with the team for three days, and the other from the first-round franchise signal caller entrusted with the keys to the 2014 season. Based on the simple fact that you're reading this, it's not hard to figure out which of the two was said by EJ Manuel. The expectation for Manuel in a post-game setting is not for him to be constantly down on himself. The goal isn't to see him stand up at the podium and watch him suffer through his words after an excruciatingly bad performance. Taking some accountability for his role in the pitfalls of the offense, however, is more than fair to expect. This hasn't been a new thing for Manuel, either: after quite a few poor practices or games, he'll often reply with a positive response and summarize that he felt the offense progressed and played well. There is being positive, and then there is deflecting any ounce of blame onto others, which is precisely what he did in his post game quote Thursday. How will it go over with Robert Woods and Fred Jackson, the two players that "dropped" passes on third downs, that their quarterback is pinning the blame of the offensive woes on them? Then you have Jordan Palmer, who has been with the team since Tuesday, bearing the weight of the woes on his shoulders alone. The Bills touted Manuel as being a mature, leader of men. And while this is only one example from one quote after one game, there is little doubt that he has some maturing to do to become the leader the Bills think he can be.
The punting competition that never was
- When the Bills claimed Jordan Gay off of waivers from Carolina, most anticipated he would be battling Brian Moorman for punting duties in the regular season. That wasn't the case according to Marrone. They viewed Gay as a kickoff specialist, but due to the offensive woes, they weren't able to see him more than once in that capacity. Moorman on the other hand struggled all through the night with a 38.4 yards per punt average. The head coach put the longtime Bills punter on alert after the game:
"Brian has really been outstanding in practice, but in the games you expect him to do a better job and come back. I'm not saying that you don't expect once here or there. You understand that. But two in a row. That's one of the ways we have to play, so we'll take a good look at that. We'll discuss it with Doug [Whaley] and see where we're at."
Marrone was clearly referring to shanked punts, and didn't give Moorman a glaring public vote of confidence with that quote. Moorman may get a few more opportunities in games, but it appears his leash is short. He needs to produce — and quickly — if he gets the chance.
Bills MVP: HB Anthony Dixon
- A couple of tough runs and a 5.8 yards per carry average on eight rushes is the best the Bills got from anyone on Thursday. He also took a pretty gruesome hit to an area that will make any male wince, so he gets more points for toughness.
Bills LVP: QB Jordan Palmer
- Palmer has the smarts of a coach but clearly not the ability to go along with it. He'll be a good coach down the line, but he may not be long for Buffalo after his three interception debut.
Up Next:
Final cuts are due Saturday, August 30 at 4 pm. The Bills then move on to play the Chicago Bears on the road for the regular season opener on September 7. Kickoff is set for 1 pm.
Final Thoughts:
- An enduring summer of extra training camp practices and five preseason games is now over and the team needs to erase the last three on-field performances from their minds. They are merely exhibition contests, and it's a given that both offensive and defensive schemes have yet to be debuted. However, even with the simplest of plays, this version of the Bills must learn to execute much better than they have been. Will they turn it around when the bright lights of the regular season finally gets here next Sunday? They're certainly betting on it. As for now, it's just a wait and see approach. And until it can be seen, Bills fans will be holding their collective breath that the preseason was merely a mirage.
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This Fish Continues to Stink From the Head Down
What you see is what you get from this franchise. Poor execution starts at the top, and that is with Russ Brandon. He has a habit of talking tough but his actions don't back it up. The fact they are completely lost at the QB spot, AGAIN, falls on no one but him. He is very clearly in way over his head in running an NFL franchise. Let's hope that Terry Pegula does not make the same mistake in allowing incompetent top management to stay on when he takes controls of the Bills like he did with the Sabres. Russ Brandon is accomplished only at selling tickets, nothing more.
the joke
continues with this organization. they will be lucky to go 4 and 12
What has the offence been doing in practice ?? How long before the fans turn on marron and Hackett ??? What was Whaley thinking trading are first next year for a receiver when he knew we didn't have a quarterback?? Who are the new owner hire as ourcoach next year
Your mom
Ej can only throw it accurately to your mom. First post
I should have read this to before I posted on the other article
I am glad you pointed the quotes from the quarterbacks out Joe, I posted the same vibe in your other article before I read this, I leader of men does not do this and it has nothing to do with youth or experience ... either you are a MAN and you own up ... or you are not … no matter how old ... all age does it teach the person how to hide it better ... but a true leader, like Fred Jackson (bless u man) can sniff out a fool like that in no time ...
What were seeing cant' be real, is it?
Bad Management, Bad Coaching, Just plain confusing on all aspects of the game of football. Hardly any (one) player sticks out as (I Care) This cant' be real, what we have seen so far, Right? I wonder what the new owner is thinking?
This team looks to be a total wreck. Giving up a first round draft choice to get a talented receiver is something you do after you have a franchise QB and need that last piece to compete for the Superbowl. This team needs a lot more than just a piece or two including a HC and GM.
The Browns are Smiling
2 top 10 picks in next years draft. How sweet it is!!!!! Plus they get josh gordon back. Too bad we couldn't give them are front office people and coaches for a #2 pick.
And you wonder why the fans boo
Preseason or not: no QB, no offensive flow, no cohesion, poor special teams (punting), multiple penalties. What a disaster. Can't wait for someone at the top who will make everyone responsible!
Why can't they see the pink elephant in the room??
Frustrated fans.
Many fans including myself have had it and its only the end of preseason. EJ has shown no improvement and the offense cannot compete at the NFL level. Its going to be a long tear!
Jim and Andre...just two games to get the season started. It would be good therapy for everyone
Who's on first ?
Not only does this team not have a back-up QB, they don't have a starting QB either. Right now EJ would have trouble making any roster in the NFL. Hunker down boys, it's gonna be a long one. Hey you, get that snake outa here before he bites someone. He did? I'll get the gauze.
Coaches are Hacks
Yea I know the EJ saga but the OC sets his team up for failure even before the game begins. Oh do we have an Offensive Line Coach? Look at the national news 2011, 2012 offensive line ranking under Gailey versus last year and today. We have better lineman today than Chan had but the whole running game and pass protection looks worse. I am also wondering if Marrone sucks too. I agree that management is poor. Ralph always surrounded him with incompetent yes men [Harvey Johnson]. Russ baby is Harvey with a smile and good teeth.
Be worried. Be very worried.
Buddy Nix
Flashback 2012: Bills team finishes 6-10, GM Buddy Nix announces he will retire but before he does, is allowed to take one more parting shot on his way out the door. He and his people decide FSU QB, EJ Manuel is the guy. WHAT!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, WHY? WHY? WHY? I keep asking myself this question and the same answer keeps bubbling to the top. The culture of dysfunction has been in place so long it's now the natural state of the Buffalo Bills. I hope new ownership cleans house. Everyone has to go! From the VP and GM down to the people working the concession stands to the people who empty the trash cans at the stadium. Everyone has to go. Losing is a disease and it's infected every part of this franchise.
Fifteen years and counting
... there hasn't been a competent coaching staff since Wade Phillips was sent packing in a fit of pique by the late Mr Wilson. Other teams/organizations at least see tangible improvements when they change management and leadership, who will care ifthis rudderless ship relocates eventually. This how the Braves ended up sharing the Staples Center with the Lakers.
Bad News Bills
Can't wait until Terry Pegula comes in and cleans house. Let's all hope he learned from letting Regier stay too long with the Sabres.
EJ is a joke
EJ continues to think that he's "pretty good", and places the blame on his receivers. EJ is terrible, and what's worse is that he doesn't own it and his self-assessments are delusional. The coaching staff has created this beastby coddling him...good luck dealing with it.
hey channel 7
can you replay Heidi instead of the game tonight??? we need a quarterback!!????
Fans on Edge, Team will be Too
We've been through too much of this, and we've booed them off the field twice in pre-season. The crowd will turn on the team QUICKLY against the Dolphins on September 14 if someone or something doesn't look great in Chicago the week before. The team will see/hear/feel a crowd completely against them 1.5 games into the season. It could get really ugly this season.
It's the Simple Things
You simply don't play a future franchise player in a meaningless preseason game when he is returning from an injury! You simply must execute on simple plays in preseason; otherwise, how do you execute complex plays? You simply don't trade away next year's first-round pick when there are still questions at QB. Simply put: at this point, the Bills have shown poor judgment, poor execution, and poor management.
An offensive coordinator with no NFL experience and a marginal (at best) QB. What do you expect??
Hire Fireman Ed from the Jets
He retired in 2012 cause they suck. Maybe Mario can get him to come here. At least the game would have some entertainment value since Elvis cant sing!
Are Bills fans so surprised their team isn't any good? The problem is they believe the hype from WGR and its cheerleaders who love EVERY move the Bills make whether its a waiver claim, draft pick or a coaching hire. Then they find out 2 years downthe road that it wasn't a good move. Thanks on behalf of the other teams in the AFC East - we all pray that the Bills stay in Buffalo for the next 100 years - even if the league needs to subsidize them .... which is where its headed.
Calm Down.....
Everyone calm down. You're making judgement on PRESEASON games. If this is continues in the regular season then have at them. Once again, it's PRESEASON!!
the wheels on the bus go round and round all thru obd
pink floyd said it best. I've become comfortably numb...... This is what will happen. The new owner will come in and look at the last two drafts and say o.k. I understand the reach for EJ I can forgive that to some extent. but to take Watkins(who will be great once he is on a team that can get him the ball)over a lineman ? that's inexcusable. you need an O line mostly for someone with little experience and to give up your next year first round pick (which could very well be in the top 5) and on top of that you have a coach who was a O man. boys enjoy your season cause it's all over but the crying. P.S to commenter on Terry not shaking things up in Sabres land..... He has. you can't wave a magic wand and get the people you want overnight. remember this next spring cause he will be doing the same with the bills.
And Cleveland Smiles
Because it looks like they will have the #1 pick next year as we gave it up for Watkins a guy I've see little of in pre-season
Brad Ontario bills hardcore fan
I'm sorry but why is Morrone not manning up to his extremely poor decision of playing and injuring our young star wr in a pre season game,,,,,,any faith I had in the staff went out the window right there,,,,,,,I just hope our D can change our fortunes, because we really do have a great defence. We have no qb, we have a suspect o line, we have unproven wr's, go bills! Football is a funny game though I still billieve
We'll get out future QB in next year's draft
Oh wait! Next year's 1st round pick, which should be the third or fourth overall will be going to Cleveland. Brandon and Whaley should be updating their resumes now! What were they thinking? If they really thought they were that close to a playoff team, would they have let Byrd go? Same old Bills! Incompetence runs rapid!
Can they be worse than last year?
Is it possible to get worse with more practice and game time? After a full season in this system, it looks like all three QBs regressed. Or am I reading too much into preseason?
Hoping Pegula doesn't by the team
I don't want to hear what has Whaley, Brandon, and coaching done wrong???? What a Joke we got going on over there at One Bills Drive. A JOKE!!! It's an embarrassment.
We may have given away the 1st pick in next years draft
How bad does that deal look now...Watkins can be good if he had a QB to get him the ball not get him injured with poor throws. Looking at this team we have a head coach and his offensive headman in way over there heads. They are clearly lost thinking the problem is no backup how about no starting QB. Our GM could have traded away next years 1st round pick...good job Doug and Doug!!
Looking at the picture of Marrone atop the page says enough. He has a pathetic football team and the two jackazzzes Brandon and Whaley are responsible for it. This team couldn't beat a high school team for crying out loud. That's how bad they are. Chicago will destroy this wreck. Can't wait to see the Pigeons that usually land on the field during the game.
It Seems Reasonable...
to think they can't win a game. 0-16. Bears 31-10.
Good Blog, Joe
For once somebody in the media is telling it like it is -about EJ Manuel. The others have been kissing up to "the franchise" since he has been in Buffalo. Its time for him to man up. He has NOT been doing a good job like he claims. He is gonna get Sammy Watkins killed! That was a wasted 1st round draft pick on him -and next years #1 pick has also gone by the wayside, This is gonna be a dreadful season,
Number 15 coming up
The Buffalo Shams will miss the playoffs for the 15th consecutive year with a 2-14 record. Manuel will be gone at year's end, as will as the coaching staff and if C J Spiller has any brains, he will leave as well. An utter joke and, yes the score ofthe first 'real' game this year - Chicago 45 Buffalo 10 (if they are lucky).
Exhibition Contest
Joe - All sporting events, Super Bowl, Stanley Cup, US Open tennis are exhibition contests. Games played before the Regular Season are PRESEASON games, games played after the Regular Season are Postseason games. You should start referring to ALL games as exhibitions or call the preseason games PRESEASON GAMES.
No hope
This team looks horrid. The offense is offensive at best. The QB is going to get his recievers killed. Can the QB even read the play book. Manuel has proven that he is a back-up at best. He is no franchise QB. The coaching staff needs to re-evaluate themselves and the QB position. Maybe the next owner will clean house and make some changes for the better. If this continues there is NO Hope of winning 1-15 season. Great Job by the GM and Coaches.
To the Next Owner of the Bills
Terry Pegula, Don Trump -or whoever - Bring back Bill Polian -please! He knows how to build a winning team. Enough of the Whaley/Marrone/Hackett/Manuel experiment. This is more of the same old past 15 years. Reminds me of the Donohoe /Gregg Williams days. Bills fans deserve better than this ineptitude.
One step forward 10 steps backwards
A step forward in 2013 results in 10 steps backward in 2014. This is all too typical of the Buffalo Bills the last 14 years. Last year there was at least the inspired play of the defense forcing turnovers and getting sacks left and right. On offense they looked to be only one player away which was a great WR. Problem is their defense is without it's two best players from last season and there are severe depth issues at linebacker and in the secondary. Adding to a defense that won't be nearly as good this season is a brand new scheme that is much less creative and aggressive and actually one that really is not all that new. This defense in terms of a alignment bears a disturbing resemblance to the much maligned Dave Wannstedt defense from two years ago. Watkins looked like a good idea when they traded up to get him. Now he is hurt, doubtful for the first game and likely doubtful for the first few weeks. When Watkins was healthy, Manuel could not get him the ball. Add it all up and this team is worse in 2014. They could even be much worse in 2014 than they were in 2013. At every single position this team is poised to take a huge step backward. Fox sports predicted 3-13 Bills. SI predicted 5-11 for the Bills. I would say that is spot on accurate.
The New Darcy
Russ Brandon is the new Darcy Reigier of Buffalo. Great guy good heart thinks he is doing what is best for the franchise and is instead running it into the ground. At least the real Darcy had some success poor Russ he can't even do a good Darcy imitation. Hope the new owner is quick to pull the plug oh year that may well be Mr Pegula oh well here is to a few more bad years. Go Saber-Bills
The Shoe will fall
The Coach , GM, and President, are all remnants from the Wilson era and it breeds of the same stuff Bills fans have been faced to endure for years. All three completely over their heads and clueless. Almost certainly a new broom will sweep clean and we can finally gut out the low budget, low skilled incompetence. They have started the the thing on fire just in time to seal their fate.
Manual , Hackett and Marrone are all jokes. Id take Chan gaily back at this point. Its going to be a long long long long long long year
Buffalo Islanders
Suck for Cleveland
Matt Flynn
This team is run by idiots. They don't have a decent number 2 or number 1 qb for that matter and they let Flynn go. Why? $$$ and he was a threat to precious EJ.
This Is Our Time
It is the Buffalo Bills players time to disappoint their loyal fans AGAIN!!!!!!
QB help? and pre-season record....
Here is part of an article from Yahoo Sports this AM written by a Detroit writer.. Winners and Losers Winners: QB Kellen Moore - Moore probably isn't going to be the Lions' backup quarterback -- it's pretty clear the team has already picked Dan Orlovsky for that role. However, he has made it tough for the Lions to release him. All preseason it has seemed like the Lions would keep only two quarterbacks, but perhaps Moore should stick around in the No. 3 role after going 17-for-28 for 172 yards and two touchdowns on Thursday night. He was outstanding all preseason. Bear in mind that in the glory years with Kelly and the K-Gun, the Bills were always winless in preseason. But dominated in September, for years and years...can this Bills team turn around? TBD Dave
#1 Draft Pick
How do you justify putting in your already hurt, very talented #1 pick that you paid so much for into the last pre season game ? Were you thinking Detroit's guys would take it easy on him cause they know he's a little sore? This management / coaching team is wearing out their welcome fast. Lot's of talk, nothing to show for it. They were given the key's, said they would drive the team into a respected position, but we haven't left the pitt's. We got to build a new stadium for this?
Marrone only wants to talk about not having a backup QB. The fact is he doesnt have a starting QB. He doesnt want to address that. And unless the Bills can trade for one -there is no hope for them this year. And not next year either -with no #1 draft pick.
Wandering in the desert ... lost.
Manuel bereft of leadership skills. He's just hoping it will happen. Like, maybe, magic. Just because. Palmer pulled up on Watkins. Barely hit him. Not saying he couldn't have been hurt, but c'mon. This is like slowly knocking your head against the wall. I want Marrone to do well, but he's completely grasping at straws here. I pray new ownership brings new karma for our team. I feel bad for Bills fans. It's tough to take.
No Way!
Buffalo has a lot of talent on Offense and Defense ... but a team will only go as far as the QB. That being said we are screwed until we get management to understand EJ is not the answer! Put CJ and Graham in a package deal out there to get a quality QBASAP.
I am DISCUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! New owner, PLEASE, clean house! Maroon, his offensive staff, Whaley, are making Buffalo a laughing stock! Nix did not help by NEVER drafting a QB. EJ is a "great kid" but a delusional QB and NEVER excepts responsibility for his ineptness.
Scribe Joe, good choice of game MVP..
Dixon's are brass!
Worst offense I've seen in 40 years.
I know it's the preseason but this is the worst QB play we've had in a long time. I miss Ryan Fitzpatrick. Never thought I'd say those words.
Why such pessimism? Well why not?
As of now, the Bills have the worst quarterbacking in the league and perhaps the universe -- like a big shiny car with no engine -- and their O-line is banged up so their running game isn't what it's supposed to be, so all that's left is their defense with its good front but suspect secondary, which means they'll have to win every game 3-0 -- but other than that, everything's fine. (And again, it is beyond unwise, it is downright irresponsible to place the fortunes of an entire team on the shoulders of any one player, especially an untried QB.)
Watkins can't stay on the field in preseason. (You're playing with the big boys now Sammy). I'm sure glad that we got Downing to tell EJ what a great job that he's doing - Hah! He'll be injured within 3 weeks. It doesn't matter who is taking his place because the Bills are convinced that they can win and fill seats without an NFL caliber QB. I guess they haven't heard the boos!
bunch of trolling clowns
Why doesnt anybody talk about the drops or how terrible the o-line is?! Of course EJ is going to struggle he technically is still a rookie. He was a project from the beginning and its unfortunate he was drafted in the 1st round because he would probably have a better chance at developing if we took him in the 2nd round. I knew he was a project and we want instant gratification in the form of an Luck, RGIII and Matt Ryan but unfortunately the REALITY is.... polished QB's out of college are RARE! 95% OF EVERY OTHER YOUNG QB STRUGGLES ESPECIALLY ONE'S WHO NEED AN ENVIRONMENT WHICH IS CONDUCIVE TO DEVELOPMENT. THIS ORGANIZATION AND FAN BASE WILL NOT ALLOW FOR THAT TO HAPPEN WHICH IS UNFORTUNATE. Im waiting until we get a full season out of EJ with his receivers making those easy catches and an o-line that actually protects him while utilizing a full playbook before I will reserve judgment.
The QB comparison is ridiculous
C'mon. Jordan Palmer has to say that. He's trying to make a team. A few things though: While EJs 3rd down throw to Woods wasn't entirely on the money, it was certainly catchable. EJ had pressure, was leaning and threw a ball that hit Woods in the hands. And our O-line looked terrible, especially our guards—and I saw Glenn get beat a few times as well. There was no push to help the run game and the pockets were often crowded. Lastly, our play calling has to be the worst in the league. You can't have RBs and WRs as good as ours and a mobile QB and not place a significant amount of blame on the Offensive Coordinator when things don't get rolling or when we dont convert on goal line plays. I get that it's the preseason, but teams must only need to do 2hrs of film study to memorize our plays. If Hackett doesn't open up the playbook then we"ll have a repeat of last year.
Just another hopeful year.
Its hard to see my favorite team suffer like this. The Bills defense is strong and has great potential this season. but yet again its the offense specifically the QB position that makes me cringe. I see our "franchise QB" looking too comfortable with the starling position and not a lot of proof of accountability or progress as claimed in several interviews. What is even more difficult to appreciate is the amount of talent and first round picks spent on this roster and starting lineup that is overshadowed by the struggling signal caller. The QB is the one who touches the ball every play, so without an at least semi-attractive QB performance this team will struggle to have a decent record this season. Side note: Speaking of first round draft picks, we don't have one in the 2015 draft. It seems like we have almost all positions set or close to good enough for a winning season, except for the QB position in my opinion. unless another attempt at a significant trade, (which could have a negative effect) the best chance we have for a true franchise QB is free agency, or '16 draft. I want this team to succeed like now, but i just don't see it happening this year. too much inconsistency at QB, and the defense i expect to taper off productivity through the later parts of the season due to little help from a struggling offense. Please prove me wrong, Im eager to see the success we deserve.
I believe that i said previously, that EJ would get his recievers killed.
I also say along with Bill Polian,that you can't teach accuracy you either have it or you don't.He never did and it was obvious when i watched him play at Florida State. Drafting a fifth round QB in the first is not a mistake. It is a felony.
Worse year coming
I'm so sorry that i even think this. 3 wins max! Poorly coached, very poor QB, Marrone isn't ready to coach. I was so expecting a lot of improvement this year.
Step away from the ledge people!
The Bills looked bad, but despite the long camp the full offensive starting lineup heading into the season didn't get a lot of game snaps together which typically leads to sloppy play. Now that everyone will be slotted into there final roles for the season I expect to see improvement. I only expected about an 8 - 8 record this year to begin with and I still see that as a possibility. Buffalo scored 20 or more points in 11 games last season and they have upgraded the talent on the offensive line and at wide receiver. It may take a little while to develop chemistry but I can't really see them regressing so badly this year that they do worse overall than last year offensively. Add in what looks to be a more sound defense and this team is in better shape. Show a little patience rather than expecting miracles overnight and this team might surprise you.
it is tuel's fault!
This whole preseason I've heard that they are unhappy at backup quarterback. They need to focus on the starter and stop telling us how great he is in practice. The staff blame much of the struggles on Tuel and Lewis now Tuel and Palmer. 3 of 7 is not good and EJ is around 50%. GEt a real coach to help all the quarterbacks. BUt at this point go with Tuel at least he is over 50%
Bumbling Bills
I had initially liked the Bills going after Watkins, but now it's clear that was a really bad move. The poor guy deserves to be on a better team. EJ will get him killed out there ! They need to find a decent QB before making these kinds of moves.
This comes down to whether or not EJ can mature into the player we all hope for. I think all of the other pieces of the puzzle are in place. You put a top notch QB on this team and it will fly. EJ has the physical tools and is smart but is he a winner on the field. He didn't really dominate at FSU and that should have been a flag. I was a believer in him when drafted but it's becoming apparent that if you are not DOMINANT as a qb in college,...it is virtually impossible to dominate in the pros. Unfortunately it is starting to look like the Bills swung and missed on EJ.
Laughing Stock Of The NFL......
That is our lot in life.
EJ is not the answer. He's just one in a long line of college QB"s that have the physical tools to succeed but lack the mental ability to handle the speed of the NFL. Give him 5 seconds to process what's going on and he'll see where he has to go with the ball, What you have with him is another candidate for the title of captain checkdown. It's a shame the team won't admit their mistake and find an NFL caliber QB. EJ's nickname should be 6 and 10 because that's about the best you can expect.
Losing confidence
Thank God we can go after a QB with our fir.....oppps nevermind...Why would a coach risk injury on starters the last pre-season game...Manuel didnt get any better, Watkins is hurt again,..and the team is most likely questioning their coaches decisions..Not feeling like I did at the start of OTA's..I'll be there whooping and a hollerin, but reality sinks in quickly these days
You think the play callng is going to get better?
HAH, the play calling was bad last year during the season, and it will be again this year, Hackett is holding this team back.
Don't think it's the coach
It come down to the signal caller. He just isn't very good and they don't trust him to run the offense. You can see marones frustration with Manuel and Whaley.
What Happens When ....
... the Bills actually have to play some quality opponents? Neither the Giants, Panthers (in their 1st game and without Newton), Steelers, Bucs and Lions are the elite teams in the NFL.
House cleaning is needed
All I can hope for in the 2015-16 season is that a new perspicatious owner will find a coach with pro-ball instincts who will bravely clean house, letting go of EJ and any others who are an embarrassment.
we stink
anyone feel good about Cleveland having our first rounder next year? might be first overall
It's all a ruse!
Wait until the first game, then the real Bills offense will be unveiled and will be unstoppable! EJ has just been sandbagging on purpose, now its time for the real skillz to come out. No but really, if you watch his college games he can throw 1(spirals 2) hard 3) downfield 4) accurately. I know the NFL is different, but its not different with an open receiver, its just a pass.
observations Lions 23 Bills 0
I have a lot of questions, 1) why did they pull EJ, early then put Palmer in with only 2 days of practice?? It was humilating. I feel bad for Palmer. I thought EJ needed the work. 2) Why didn't Tues get a chance to show what he might be able to? Why was Nigel Brandam playing when he is suspended for week 1. 3) Why didn't Gay get a chance to punt? 4) How many more offensive and defensive penalties are we going to see this year? I liked Palmers response, but really only 2 days of practice that play book must be really simple if someone expects him to have done well after just 2 days.
Excuse me?
Bad performance in two straight games and you're canned. Why is EJ still seeing starting time?
RE: it's all a ruse!
You are as delusional as the starting QB. Just sayin.
Bills suck! Lol
I feel good about Cleveland getting Buffalo's first pick next year.
But then again, I'm a Cleveland Browns fan...from Buffalo!
Well, he isn't the best pickup, but he is an upgrade over EJ. Basically anyone we pick up will be a step above EJ.
this team is filling up its diaper and fast & the season didn't even start yet. I see this team getting smoked on opening day on its way to a 2-14 season..... lets hope they somehow back-door their way into two wins or the failure will be complete at 0-16. New owner.............get a real coach, new front office and clean house top to bottom. Its time to sweep out these bumbling, stumbling, incompetent so called coaches, management, players...etc... a new start is needed.
Hey S-T-U-P-I-D!... YOU yeah, YOU!!!!...
YOU are the one that's INCOMPETENT not the Bills and CERTAINLY NOT RUSS BranDONE! Because Y-O-U continue to buy this ridiculously and embarrassing product year after year after year. IMAGINE; a "professional sports organization" CANNOT COMPETE for it's sport's championship for the last "FIFTEEN YEARS" STRAIGHT, and there seems no let up in ticket buying!!!????? YOU, STUPID; GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! YOU STOP BUYING TICKETS!!!! Then see how fast things change! STUOID YOU...
Rock Bottom
This is the year the Bills hit rock bottom. They will win 3 or fewer games. The story of the 2015 draft will be the browns two first round picks. The current brain trust will not be in charge foe the 2015 draft. The bills will be compared to an expansion team. I'll keep rooting for the bills, but I chose an NFC team too, to keep this season worthwhile. The Bears.
Please get Josh Freeman!!!
Without a quality QB and without a top pick this year, I believe the team needs to re-sign Tuel and/or Thad as both are better than EJ. Drop Orton and sign Josh Freeman. Josh has all of the physical tools that EJ is supposed to have and can use them. He's been to the pro-bowl. He has numerous Tampa records in just a couple years. A new coaching staff didn't like the previous staff's QB. We all know how that works. He was given ten days to prepare for a regular season start and didn't look good (in Minnesota) and hasn't really had a chance since. Start EJ but please pull him if he continues to be incompetent. Put Jeff in for a few weeks before trying to start someone off the street. You would hope that someone at the NFL level would understand this but you need to give a QB a chance to learn a system before playing him. Somehow Doug and Doug don't get that. Why wait this long to bring in a QB??? It's too late to make QB changes but with Josh, you have someone with proven NFL talent / ability. We would have next year's starter this year or at least a very good QB competition. He might be able to get us into the playoffs for the first time this century, this season. Shame on management for not having the foresight to do this many months ago!!! It's inexcusable.
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So to recap day three:
The final two witnesses, ASADA investigator Aaron Walker and Trevor Burgess gave evidence.
Burgess said that a senior government official told the AFL they wanted ASADA to appear 'as the bad guys.'
The parties then gave their closing submissions.
Essendon counsel Neil Young QC said that the joint AFL-ASADA investigation was "directly repugnant."
ASADA lawyer Tom Howe QC then said that even if it were to lose this case, ASADA could re-issue show-cause notices within 24 hours.
There'll be more news and analysis later today.
Thanks for joining us for live coverage over the past three days.
There was no indication of a time-frame on the decision from Justice Middleton.
A few housekeeping matters are just being taken care of. A few documents which need to be tendered.
Middleton: I thank the parties and the legal representatives for the assistance they've given me, and I shall reserve my decision.
Court is adjourned.
Peter Hanks QC (Hird) is asked by Middleton to explain the connection to a couple of cases which have been referenced.
Young says though that the interviews won't be the same because players may assert privilege this time
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Young: There is no provision within the AFL anti-doping rules which dictates an ASADA investigator must be present at interviews.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Young emphasises that it should have been an ASADA investigation.
Young (Essendon) has been detailing various issues he had with Howe's interpretation of ASADA's powers.
Justice Middleton has interjected on occasion to query some of Young's points.
Young: the argument is based on flimsy foundations
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Howe's closing submission is finished.
But Young (Essendon) has the chance to reply to some of the matters raised by ASADA's counsel.
Howe: If notices set aside, ASADA could re-acquire info within 24 hours.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Middleton asks Howe what happens if the show-cause notices are set aside.
Howe: There's no point in setting aside the notices if they can just be re-issued.
Howe: Information must not be the subject of any permanent, open-ended injunction.
Middleton: That may be looking too far ahead. If I set-aside notices, then nothing would happen until you re-issue notices.
Howe: ASADA could re-issue notices within 24 hours.
Middelton queries whether that could be done within the boundaries of 'procedural fairness.'
Also, Hird is back.
Howe has now directed Justice Middleton to the AFL's anti-doping code.
Howe then proceeds to detail a number of clauses which outline how disclosure of information is allowed.
James Hird is no longer in the courtroom. Paul Little appears to be the sole Essendon administrator left, with others including CEO Xavier Campbell and marketing chief Justin Rodski gone.
"Expense, inefficiency and time," should be key considerations that lead to a joint investigation being allowed, says ASADA.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Howe: there was a provision repealed, because ASADA no longer decision maker, no longer had to be at arms length from sporting bodies
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Howe: Even though ASADA didn't have coercive powers when the ASADA Act came in in 2006, it was regarded as a robust, integrated scheme.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Howe is drawing on provisions from many of the international documents ASADA referred to in its opening submission on Friday.
ASADA Counsel now turns to the matter of international anti-doping requirements.
Howe: The ASADA CEO has to have consideration of the international instruments. It's not just an aid to construction, it informs how the whole system works.
Howe: "It doesn't matter who asks the questions. That's not the information in issue. The information in issue is the answers, which are given by the interviewee."
Tom Howe QC (ASADA) draws on a case in which an investigator and a receiver were deemed to have overlapping purposes.
He is essentially trying to showcase an argument that ASADA was allowed to provide information for, and work in conjunction with the AFL.
Howe draws on a case which says that investigators need to draw on information from as 'wide a source as possible.'
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Howe arguing that ASADA pursuant with its statutory requirements could have asked the AFL to do more top prevent drug use.
He says that provisions allow for ASADA to monitor organisations and ensure that are enforcing the NAD scheme.
Tom Howe arguing that the ASADA CEO had to tick-off the AFL's anti-doping rules.
He says that the legislature has already allowed for a connection between ASADA and sporting administrative bodies such as the AFL.
How has this farce taken basically 2 full seasons of our great game; hang your heads in shame the lot of you #AFL #Hird #ASADA END.IT.NOW
— George Patrikios (@Socrates921) August 13, 2014
Suspended Essendon Bombers coach James Hird (C) leaves for a break with wife Tania Hird and Barrister Nick Harrington. Photo: Getty Images
Howe cites a case which states that the text itself is the best way to interpret legislation.
Extrinsic materials only have a minor role to play in comparison.
Unhappy times: James Hird. Photo: Getty Images
Is this the final arbiter in the Essendon supplements saga?
The World Anti Doping Authority oversees ASADA.
Joint AFL-ASADA investigation 'directly repugnant', court told http://t.co/K9DODDPzs2 via @theage
— Adam Cooper (@acooperjourno) August 13, 2014
Howe disagrees with the proposition that there is no positive power. Streamed through Act the power to conduct investigstions
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Hanks' submission is done. He only spoke for a short time, as his time and Young's time had to be equal to Howe's time.
David Grace QC (representing the players) makes a quick submission, and Tom Howe QC (ASADA) commences his own closing submission. He has 90 minutes.
Hanks: every time ASADA got some resistance about the nature of the investigation they went: 'no, we're fine' and carried on.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Hanks is trying to argue that because the information in the hands of the AFL was obtained unlawfully, it cannot be used at a later stage (e.g. another investigation).
Middleton questions why this shouldn't be left for the decision maker at that next stage (the 'downstream decision maker) to decide.
Hanks: "but for" the other purpose, the investigation would not have happened
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Peter Hanks QC (Hird) begins his own closing submission. He outlines the argument mentioned earlier by Young about ASADA acting for an improper purpose.
The court is now in session.
Young has requested extra time saying it is unfair that ASADA is allowed more time than the Bombers.
He wants a fourth day.
ASADA's QC Tom Howe wants it to finish today.
Justice Middleton say he will make a determination on the matter later.
AFL wanted ASADA to appear as 'the bad guys', court hears http://t.co/cErENXttJa via @theagesport @sundayagesport
— JonPierik (@Pierik_AgeSport) August 13, 2014
AFL wanted ASADA to appear as the 'bad guys'.
To summarise the major points from the pre-lunch session:
- ASADA personnel Aaron Walker and Trevor Burgess were both examined.
- Burgess said he was aware that the AFL was considering sanctions that would not require any proof of anti-doping provisions.
- Justice John Middleton outlined the process for closing submissions this afternoon. The plan is for the hearing to be finished by 4:30PM.
- Neil Young QC (Essendon) outlined his own closing submission. He said that the Bombers' case rested upon the propositions that:
- 1. ASADA acted beyond its powers.
- 2. ASADA acted for an improper purpose.
- He also said that former ASADA boss Aurora Andruska never made a decision, let alone a considered decision that the AFL should be present at the interviews of players.
Hird's lawyer Peter Hanks QC will begin his closing submission when the afternoon session begins at 2PM.
Young pronounces George Brandis' name as "Brand-ice"
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Middleton and Young debating a few issues very much focused on statutory construction.
The judge has stopped the Essendon lawyer on a number of occasions asking him to clarify his arguments surrounding various subsections of the legislation.
Paul Little watches on, arms folded in the front row. James Hird is at the back of the court.
Young: "It's an investigation into anti-doping violations." "It's not an investigation at large."
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Middleton asks Young whether the fact that the AFL is subject to the Privacy Act (1988) allows the disclosure of information.
Young: curious proposition by ASADA is that strict requirements surround certain information but 4.21 allows a wholesale release
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
ASADA investigator Aaron Walker gets his out of court grilling. Photo: Getty Images
Young: ASADA is only allowed to investigate IT'S OWN doping rules.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Young honing in on Sporting Administration Body Rules from NAD scheme.
He says information can only be disclosed in relation to anti-doping violations.
On SEN radio, Daniel Harford likens the trial to a cricket match, saying Essendon scored 225 and ASADA were 5-80 yesterday, but he's lost track of who is 'winning' now.
He says the trial is a "shambles, a sideshow".
"I'm not sure what we're gaining from this..." he says.
He says even if the ASADA/AFL investigations is proved unlawful, the public is only concerned with "what the players took", and ASADA has vowed to continue its investigations regardless.
ASADA investigator Tevor Burgess is questioned by media after leaving the Federal Court. Photo: Getty Images
Young quotes regulations which outline that disclosure of information to a sporting body can only occur if it is done so in accordance with stringent provisions.
Young: The fact that the AFL disclosed some of the info the press was "a rather extraordinary consequence" of ASADA's interpretation.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
A lot of references being made to clause 4.21 of the NAD scheme. The construction of this clause is what much of this case rests upon.
Here's a link.
Young takes Middleton to Andruskas evidence about purpose of interim report. Her answer was "I had a commitment to provide a report"
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Today's trolley loads of documents. Photo: Getty Images
Young clarifies argument: We are alleging that ASADA acted beyond power.
Howe: Essendon is now seeking to introduce an "Alice in wonderland" proposition that a decision was never made by ASADA re joint investigat.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Middleton querying whether the idea that a decision was never made is a new argument.
Howe (ASADA): It does seem to be a new ground of review.
Young: Andruska never made a decision, let alone a considered decision that the AFL should be present at interviews, nor turned her mind to the requirements of the ASADA Act.
Young: Because so much happened before August 1 2013, we could get complete relief based on the law prior to ASADA statute amendments coming in that day.
Young: AFL were talking about appropriate sanctions before charges were even made
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Young: clear that afl compulsive power could only be exercised to compel people to appear before asada if afl were in interview room
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Young: Our case rests on two propositions.
1. The joint investigation was 'beyond power.'
"The statute confers no power whatsoever to allow ASADA to act as it did."
Further there should be no discretionary relief given as there should be a positive requirement on ASADA to prove the investigation was allowed, rather than a negative requirement on Essendon to prove that ASADA acted outside its statutory boundaries.
2. The investigation was conducted for improper purposes.
The courtroom is still pretty full. James Hird has stepped out however for the moment.
Neil Young QC (Essendon) will deliver the first of the closing submissions.
Closing submission time.
Time will be divided equally between the parties.
Lunch will be between 1PM and 2PM.
If #ASADA & #AFL investigation is illegal, does the #AFL charge itself for bringing the game into disrepute? #ASADA #Essendon
— Thomas Parkes (@_thomasparkes) August 13, 2014
So far, Age voters think this week's legal moves have harmed James Hird's prospects of returning as coach of Essendon in 2015.
What do you think?
Housekeeping matters still being discussed.
Talk of which documents need to be handed over to the judge.
Middleton says that he wants the affidavits looked over soon by the parties so they can be put up on the Federal Court's website.
Star now going through procedural matters
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Burgess says he was aware that the AFL was considering sanctions that would "not require proof of any anti-doping violations."
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Cross-examination from Young has now finished, but Hanks (representing Hird) has decided to exercise his right and ask a couple of questions of the ASADA deputy.
Hanks asks Burgess about whether it was his usual practice not to take notes at meetings.
His questions soon finish.
Star (ASADA) then briefly questions Burgess as well.
Burgess is excused.
Burgess confirms he was aware that Essendon had queried the interim report.
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Burgess confirms he knew on the 16th of July that there were no restrictions on the AFL using the information from the report for its own disciplinary purposes.
Burgess says he was aware that the AFL was considering sanctions that would "not require proof of any anti-doping violations."
One hope from today's proceedings is that Justice Middleton might give some idea of whether he thinks it was inappropriate for the AFL and ASADA to work together so closely on their investigations. If that came, it would be during closing submissions this afternoon.
On the basis of being told by Eccles about likely AFL sanctions to player support staff, Burgess says he had no reason not to believe the government staffer.
Asked by Middleton why he thought Eccles was telling him all this information from the AFL on June 13, Burgess said he thought it was because the AFL was looking to expedite the matter.
The most recent annual report of ASADA starts with a bang: "Our purpose is to protect Australia's sporting integrity and the health of Australian athletes. Everything we do is focussed on this outcome. The integrity of Australian sport has come under serious threat in 2012–13. This is a major challenge for the entire Australian sporting community..."
Wonder how the 2013-2014 annual report will read.
Here's a link to ASADA's report on organised crime and drugs in sport. Click here.
The ASADA website. Photo: asada.gov.au
Asking about his notes "non players still go down...ducks all lined up". Information came from what was to be briefing to AFL commission
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Neil Young QC (Essendon) begins his cross-examination of Burgess.
Burgess confirms that government bureaucrat Richard Eccles informed Burgess that the AFL was trying to portray ASADA as "the bad guy."
Trevor Burgess and Aurora Andruska pictured in the 2010-2011 ASADA annual general report. Photo: asada.gov.au
The final witness - ASADA Chief Operating Officer Trevor Burgess - is sworn in under oath.
Middleton stops the grilling coming from Harrington.
Cross-examination finishes.
Sue McNicol (ASADA) briefly questions own witness (Walker).
Walker is excused from the witness box.
Harrington making much of the fact he didn't read 3 page email, Walker says working from home concentrating on writing other things
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Harrington's tempo and level of projection increases as he references several documents and and references to "joint investigations."
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
We - the AFL community, want this ASADA issue to be done with once and for all. Remind me again how the last 2 days and today resolves this?
— Peter_P(@tigerpops69) August 13, 2014
Walker confirms he was present and did not object when Nolan said to a player at an interview that it was a "joint investigation"
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Middleton: "theycan call it joint until they are red in the face, it is up to me to determine what that means"
— Chris Kaias(@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Back to the interview plans.
Walker says that at all bar two or three of the interviews, an AFL person was present.
Would all this debate about a "joint investigation" have been avoided if AFL/ ASADA had called it a simultaneous investigation? #ToneLaw
— Tone Greenberg (@TigerlandTone) August 13, 2014
Long days of cross-examination require plenty of caffeine. Bombers president Paul Little (R) arrives at court with Bombers Chief Marketing Officer Justin Rodski. Photo: Getty Images
Walker confirms AFL contributed information to methodology section of the report, statistics. But that it was written by Nolan
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Suspended Bombers coach James Hird looks suitably grim on day three. Photo: Getty Images
Middleton to Walker: was an AFL person always with you when you went to Deloitte?
Walker: Yes.
Walker says he was able to have easy correspondence with Deloitte.
He says there was almost universal compliance with his requests to the AFL.
Ready for play: Tom Howe QC, counsel for ASADA, arrives at the Federal Court. Photo: Michael Dodge
Very much a matter of degrees here. How large were the respective roles played by ASADA and the AFL in the investigation?
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Tania and James Hird have remained keen observers of the case. Photo: Getty Images
Harrington takes Walker to an e-mail from March 17 2013 from Nolan to Haddad.
Harrington confirms that Nolan provided instructions to Haddad during the investigation, but does not goes as far as confirming that it happened "regularly."
David Grace QC, representing Essendon. Photo: Getty Images
Now talking about communications with Walker and Murphy from the AFLPA
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
Walker: "Mr (Abraham) Haddad was the conduit between ASADA and the interviewees, in terms of AFL interviewees."
— Seb Costello (@SebCostello9) August 13, 2014
Harrington: Did you understand the importance of the AFL compelling players to attend pursuant to its player rules?
Walker: Yes.
Harrington then trying to ascertain specifics of the role played by Haddad in the investigation.
Harrington hands Walker a folder of documents.
Walker is directed to an email directed from Nolan to AFL investigator Brett Clothier in February last year, before Walker was an employee at ASADA.
Walker is generally responding much quicker than Aurora Andruska did yesterday.
Harrington probing Walker about specifics about the interviews conducted by Walker, fellow ASADA investigator John Nolan, and Haddad.
Haddad only had a small role in the James Hird interview, confirms Walker.
Walker says he had regular correspondence with AFL investigator Abraham Haddad, although not often face-to-face
— Daniel Cherny (@DanielCherny) August 13, 2014
Harrington asks about his heading "the AFL investigation". Walker confirms his view is that AFL had a standalone investigation
— Chris Kaias (@ChrisKaias) August 13, 2014
The "Idon't understand what you're asking" answers from asadahave already started! 10.08am. New record.
— Cerberus (@tretestecane) August 13, 2014
Hird's lawyer Nick Harrington begins cross-examining Walker.
Harrington trying to ascertain Walker's role in the investigation and whether he was aware of his statutory powers.
Harrington: You were the sole author of the vast majority of the interim report?
Walker: Yes
Harrington: Did Peter Harcourt (chief AFL medical officer) provide information for the report?
Walker: Yes, I would describe him as a contributor.
Harrington then presses Walker about the matter of whether it was a joint investigation, and whether he ever disagreed about the notion it was a joint investigation.
Aaron Walker - ASADA investigator - is sworn in under oath.
Walker, a former Queensland policeman, took part in much of the interviewing of Essendon players.
Housekeeping matters are over.
Middleton says he no longer needs to go to Brisbane tomorrow, but says that does not mean he is encouraging the parties to take longer.
He says the case should be finished today.
The first item for the day is the discussion of a number of small evidence matters between Neil Young QC (Essendon) and Justice John Middleton.
Young had objected to a delegation document tendered as evidence by the ASADA camp. He has now allowed it.
A reminder that the two witnesses expected to be called today are ASADA chief operating officer Trevor Burgess, and investigator Aaron Walker.
Daniel Cherny: Almost set to go here on day three at the Federal Court.
James Hird is yet again in attendance, as is wife Tania.
Essendon set a cracking pace in terms of administrative incompetence but haven't AFL/ASADA come with a withering run rounding the home turn
— Robert Shaw (@shawry_analyst) August 12, 2014
Incidentally: carne asada, in Spanish, is, colloquially, "grilled meat"...
James Hird on day two. Photo: Joe Armao
Today, two ASADA employees, Trevor Burgess and Aaron Walker will be called to the stand, then there will be final submissions.
Justice Middleton ordered the proceedings to start early, at 9.45am, in order to finish the trial today. However, he has reams of material to consider and a verdict could be weeks away.
For the legal fans amongst you, check out this blogger's analysis of the evidence in the case.
What I don't understand is if ASADA had concerns about the AFL misusing NAD info, why didn't they mount a non compliance action?
— Richard Ings (@ringsau) August 12, 2014
Seriousness aside, Fave moment of ASADA trial so far is when Patrick Smith left court & a cameraman asked: "What's Rex Hunt doing here?".
— SebCostello (@SebCostello9) August 12, 2014
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Suspended coach James Hird has told court he disagreed with public statements made by successive Essendon chairmen about the club's stance on the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority probe into the Bombers' supplements program.
James Hird attending the Federal Court Photo: Joe Armao
"Former Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority chief Aurora Andruska has revealed in court that Essendon was being investigated for the use of performance enhancing drugs as early as 2011 and a specific probe of the Bombers would have gone ahead last year regardless of AFL involvement."
ASADA was pressured by the government and the AFL during its investigation of Essendon.
"The pressure Australia's anti-doping authority was under from the former Labor federal government and the AFL to resolve the Essendon supplements scandal last year was laid bare in court on Tuesday, when it was alleged then sports minister Kate Lundy required a 'deal' with the AFL."
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For every piece of chicken we eat, Kentucky Fried Chicken packages made by Asia Pulp & Paper, a company notorious for destroying the Indonesian rainforest. That forest is home to the few hundred tigers left in the wild—and if we don't speak out, those tigers will be gone in a matter of decades.
Two companies, Nestle and Mattel, have already agreed not to use APP for its paper. Make KFC the third: Tell President Roger Eaton to save the rainforest NOW!
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Kingfish - New Orleans
- Address:
337 Chartres
New Orleans, LA 70130Neighborhood:
French Quarter
- Cuisine:
Creole / Cajun / SouthernPrice: $30 and under
Kingfish - New Orleans
- Dining Style: Casual Elegant
- Website: http://www.kingfishneworleans.com/
- Phone: 5045985005x
- Hours of Operation:
Lunch: Daily: 11:00 am - 3:30 pm
Happy Hour: Daily: 3:30 pm - 6:00 pm
Dinner: Sunday - Thursday: 5:30 pm - 10:00 pm; Friday - Saturday: 5:30 pm - 11:00 pm
- Payment Options: AMEX,Discover,MasterCard,Visa
- Cuisine: Creole / Cajun / Southern, Comfort Food, Gastro Pub
- Executive Chef: Greg Sonnier
- Dress Code: Casual Dress
- Accepts Walk-Ins: Yes
- Additional Details: Bar Dining, Bar/Lounge, Cafe, Entertainment, Full Bar, Non-Smoking Restaurant, Private Room
A word from Kingfish - New Orleans
Kingfish features New Louisiana Cuisine from beloved New Orleans Chef Greg Sonnier. The menu reflects Greg's Louisiana-centric approach to food. At the bar enjoy both traditional New Orleans style cocktails, such as the Sazerac or the Pimm's Cup, as well as modern cocktails created by New Orleans famous mixologist Chris McMillian.Continued
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Kingfish - New Orleans reviews from OpenTable diners
99 reviews since June 2, 2014
- Food4.1Service4.1
- Ambiance4Noise LevelModerate
fit for foodies (54)vibrant bar scene (43)neighborhood gem (31)special occasion (26)great for lunch (24)good for groups (19)hot spot (17)romantic (15)notable wine list (13)late-night find (12)great for brunch (7)scenic view (4)kid-friendly (1)great for outdoor dining (1)Show More
- Recommended by a FoodiemratlasDined on 9/22/2014We were seated promptly. Atmosphere was ok. Since this place came recommended by a foodie, I had higher expectations but was ultimately let down. Food was late and cold. Service was below satisfactory. Very reluctant to recommend this place due to the poor service.Special Features:
- Wonderful FlavorsBopperDined on 9/21/2014All of our dishes were just great. The combination of sauces was wonderful. the whole deboned stuffed flounder was just incredible. I highly recommend it.Special Features:
- One of NOLA's Best in the QuarterdavedineDined on 9/19/2014There are so many GREAT restaurants in the French Quarter that it would almost be impossible to make a list of the best, but Kingfish would be on the list. I've eaten here several times both for romantic dining and private celebrations and I am never disappointed in the food or drinks. The menu is diverse enough to please anyone - and feel free to ask the wait staff about any of the dishes if you are unsure.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Yum!!!Meri333Dined on 9/19/2014What a great place!!! I'd highly recommend the rabbit gumbo!! Our waiter, Chris R, was wonderful too!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- OpenTable Diner Since 2009VIPDined on 9/15/2014Fish tacos were good. Service was good.that our first day in New Orleans. Our server gave us good info about jazz places where locals go. That was certainly very helpful.Special Features:
- aeropostleDined on 9/13/2014Excellent food. Friendly waiters. Great ambiance. A definite repeat.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- SolidThelumenDined on 9/12/2014This place was talked up to me by quite a few foodie friends so we put it on our list to try. The drinks were absolutely some of the best in town and the food was completely solid.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- KingfishgritsgalDined on 9/11/2014The Gulf fish dish was divine! The server was friendly and charming without being intrusive. He was very good.Special Features:
- DeliciouscndrelaDined on 8/31/2014Kingfish was recommended to us by a friend. We really loved the food and the dinner service was excellent. I would definitely go there again - and will suggest it to friends travelling to NOLA. The only critique I have for the restaurant is that when we arrived there was no one at the hostess stand. The bartenders all saw us standing there and no one acknowledged us. A waiter approached the stand - saw us and turned around. It was approximately five minutes before the hostess appeared. The restaurant had seated a large party and she was detained due to that. If one of the other staff had just acknowledged us it would have made all the difference.Special Features:
- Classy but not stuffy!JeffandPattiDined on 8/30/2014Thoroughly enjoyed Kingfish! It was a special occasion meeting up with military friends from 20 yrs ago. They were able to give us the wonderful table in the front window, didn't rush or interrupt our conversation! It was on the Top10/2013 list, well deserved! We shared appetizers, bacon wrapped jalapeño/Cajun sausage wonton/shrimp&okra/blue crab chop, All equally incredible! Go with what your hungry for, Husband had Every Man A King Fish (Pompano on a salt brick)!!! I had scallops special!!! Our friends had Cedarplank fish and Duck special!!! Nice wine list and cocktails. Sorry can't comment on dessert, my favorite, but couldn't fit it in! Will definitely go back when in town! Great job Kingfish!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- A perfect celebration!6localfoodiesDined on 8/23/2014Our family of six, including four young adult sons, had the absolute time of our lives at King Fish. The food was superb and the waitstaff simply wonderful. I would say they were naturally New Orleans! We were celebrating one last summer night before the oldest boys returned to college and this was the perfect setting. Our waiter gave great menu advice, both for food and cocktails. The staff laughed right along with us and we thoroughly enjoyed our meal from start to finish. Greg Sonnier and his staff are geniuses at making folks feel welcome!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Huey would love itThptrekVIPDined on 8/21/2014Great atmosphere. Alligator wings were ok. Fish on rock salt was good. As your waiter to transfer it onto regular plate to avoid a mess. Duck with ramen was also goodSpecial Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Nice DinnerJoshBDined on 8/16/2014This last weekend my fiance and I were in NOLA just getting away for the weekend, I wanted to propose to her but first I wanted to have a nice dinner before I popped the question. I had no idea where to have dinner at so I used this app and looked at reviews and prices, This was a great fit for anyone who like to dress up a little or alot and have ether a bar or a dinner to themselfs. I booked for 8:45 and once we got there told them and boom got the table ready. It was a great night.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Left me coldNOLAJOEVIPDined on 8/9/2014Great bar. Lively fun French Quarter scene. My entree was cold inside and it was a deep dish pot pie with smoked pork. Tasty but it made me wonder about the kitchen prep and the rest of the food. Worth a second chance though.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great serviceBeanLadyDined on 8/8/2014We got there 15 mins before closing (our plane was late getting in) and they served us graciously even though I'm sure they were ready to shut it down. French 75s were delicious! The Cedarplank Pompano was cooked perfectly and was a fairly large piece. Definitely would return!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Creative comfort foodBreifneVIPDined on 8/3/2014This casual restaurant served better and more creative food than some white-tablecloth places we've eaten in Nola. Rabbit in merlot reduction -- outstanding. Very memorable. Nice wine selection. Friendly prompt service. Great experience.Special Features:
- Desserts were great!PhilaPhanDined on 8/3/2014Went with friends for drinks, apps, and dessert. Skip the sausage won tons. The crab cake was great! The pecan pie was incredible! The cheese cake was delicious. They do not have sweet tea. The alcohol specialty drinks were tiny. I had the blueberry one and though tasty it wasn't great and was very small. Their margaritas were also very small.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Huey P Long Would Be ProudMichaelVIPDined on 8/3/2014The bar area is not huge but it is great and the bartenders know their craft cocktails. We had a group of 6 and ordered various cocktails that were well made. The burger is the thing to get, well seasoned, and the sweet potato waffle fries paired well with it. Definitely a low key place to stop for a great cocktail and food. Only thing that might be lacking is a "bar menu" some of finger foods to eat while drinking at the bar, be it nuts and olives or homemade sweet potato chips.Special Features:
- Anniversary DinnerGreyhoundDDined on 8/2/2014My wife had a cocktail at the bar before our table was ready and was very impressed with the bartender and her drink. The restaurant was upscale and was a perfect romantic setting for our meal. My wife had the fish and it was excellent. I had the bone in ribeye. It was cooked perfectly, but the first steak was extremely difficult to cut and worse to chew. I sent it back. The waiter even said he tried to cut it and couldnt. The second steak was also cooked perfectly but same story, very stringy and tough to chew. The waiter came back and asked if this steak was any better and I said no not really. He shrugged and walked away. We didnt see him again until he brought the check. I can only go by my experience but have had much better for less.Special Features:
- Great French Quarter locationJulie504VIPDined on 8/1/2014Kingish is a nice addition to the burgeoning FQ dining scene. Longtime New Orleans favorite chef Greg Sonnier has hit the right note with bar food plus some ambitious foodie items.Special Features:
- Dinner with friendsSuz4Dined on 7/30/2014This was recommended by my oldest daughter. She had heard it was very good. We all had different types of fish. The salad was great with the homemade vinaigrette. We also had the chocolate mousse/pudding and the cheesecake. It was topped with real blueberries. It was delicious. I would come back and dine here again.Special Features:
- Good Creole FoodVirga017FoodieDined on 7/30/2014Kingfish is a very good restaurant. Food was very good, but did not have the exciting and unique flavors as some other restaurants in New Orleans. I had a seafood gumbo, which was really good, especially the fresh fish and alligator sausage. Wine list was good, but not as extensive as expected. Atmosphere and service was very good.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- CRACKLINGS!!!!!TinalemansDined on 7/27/2014The food at Kingfish was fantastic. The appetizer of duck,pork and poultry cracklings were a sinful delight! The kingfish on a salt brick was outstanding as was the cedar plank prepared gulf fish, and of course I must Mention the manchego grits! Our waiter, I believe his name was Martin, was as warm and friendly as you could ever want. Delicious cocktails great food and terrific service, you can't ask for much more!Special Features:
- Fit for a King!JaybeingJayDined on 7/21/2014One of my favorite places! We're so lucky to have Chef Sonnier back creating his amazing food in NOLA! Tried the Cochon de lait Pot Pie for the first time & so glad I did! It's hard to stray from my favorite Junkie Chicken, or Duck but it's always a safe bet to try something new with such talent in the kitchen. Stellar service provided by Justine & the GM Shad. Beyoncé & Jay Z must of thought so too!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- We had a blast!winedineDined on 7/19/2014We had a reservation for a party of 4, and when 3 more friends joined, the staff was very accommodating. Great service, nice menu selections, and of course, lots of adult beverages!Special Features:
- Creative Menu, Great ExperienceRickPVIPDined on 7/19/2014By New Orleans' standards (or any other standards for restaurants), Kingfish is terrific. Creative menus with a variety of delicious choices (the Shrimp Gaufre - New Orleans style barbecue shrimp in a waffle boat atop a sweet potato purée - was wonderful and the Rabbit Gumbo was a unique combination of flavors). A beautifully renovated French Quarter restaurant where you can be comfortable either casually dressed or in business attire.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Excellent foodLag04Dined on 7/17/2014We had a fantastic meal at kingfish. All the food recommendations were delicious! We would definitely go back!Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great foodCher2210Dined on 7/12/2014Food was great. Scallops dish was delicious and the cedar plan fish was tasty. Our server performance was shaky. He did not seem confident. I noticed other servers were attentive and I think our server was not indicative of the restaurant service level. Give it a chance.I would recommend this to a friend.
- great cocktailsponshoresDined on 7/12/2014the food is great depending on what you order. aligator wings were interresting but would not order again. crab cake app. and scallops were outstanding. gulf fish was good and cooked perfectly but not special. great casual atmosphere, but not casual prices.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Bad service, mediocre food.OpenTable Diner Since 2006Dined on 7/11/2014I had heard good things about this place, but was very underwhelmed across the board, and disappointed repeatedly. The service was bad. Our waiter was never around, so we were constantly having to flag down other staff for things like silverware that was cleared by staff, or knocked on the floor. Both entrees were very eddible, but not to the caliber I expect in a nola restaurant of this price point. I ordered the fish on Himalayan salt block, but the block was too small to eat the dish without things falling onto the table. Apparently this is always the case because the put a black napkin on the table prior to bringing out my dish. It created a messy very unrefined way to eat the dish which had been re-plated on the salt block.
- great experienceOpenTable Diner Since 2007Dined on 7/11/2014Service was great, didn't flinch when we asked to move to a more romantic table. Cocktails are fantastic, bar tenders know their craft. Food was smack your mama good.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Great Food.SamBellaDined on 7/7/2014Amidst all the restaurants near Bourbon St, its refreshing to come across some solid food that pleases the palette. The food was delicious well seasoned (but not overly) , the waist staff was very accommodating and helpful, and the cocktails were great. As a starter I had the frilled shrimp and Okra, it was soo good and filling , I barely put a dent in my main entrée.Special Features:
- Disappointing!chefmatthewDined on 7/6/2014Being a "Foodie", I was looking forward to trying this new restaurant in the French Quarter. The service was wonderful, but the food did not deliver the hype that it had received. The assorted "Cracklings" were unidentifiable and bland. The "Beet Salad" only had a whisper of a grated beet. Two guests had the "Fish on Salt Brick". Great concept, but poor execution. Both had their entrées end up in their laps and had to return to the hotel to change clothes. My "Bone-in Ribeye" was undercooked and flavorless. The "Roasted Chicken", again flavorless. The French Quarter is in great need of "fine dining" restaurants, as most have become unimaginative and overpriced for mediocre food. Hopefully, "Kingfish" will step up their game.
- NidsVIPDined on 7/4/2014Excellent food. A gem in New Orleans. We stayed in New Orleans for 1 week and we returned to KingFish because it was the best!! Worth returning over and over again.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Best scallop dish I've ever had!CalouDined on 6/28/2014Good food, service and drinks! Wonderful pimento cheese seved with the bread which was a nice touch and unique. We'd go back!Special Features:
- A nice dinner at a lively spotKierazDined on 6/22/2014A colleague and I went to Kingfish during a business trip to New Orleans. The place was crowded, but we had a reservation and were seated immediately. The bar was full of fans watching USA in the World Cup, and though it could have easily been too noisy, it never reached too much of a din. The dinner was solid, with a nice shrimp and okra appetizer. I had the dirty chicken, breaking my normal rule about not ordering chicken at restaurants because that isn't very exciting. It was quite nice, though I did wish I tried something more adventurous. The waiter couldn't have been more helpful and pleasant.Special Features:I would recommend this to a friend.
- Excellent foodwmgrarVIPDined on 6/21/2014We had an excellent meal. I had the pulled pork pot pie and it was delicious. Serving staff were very friendly and attentive. Presentation of the food was also very good. After a trip full of lots of fine restaurants this too was very, very good.Special Features:
- OpenTable Diner Since 2012Dined on 6/20/2014Our drinks took forever and finally showed up with our appetizer followed by the bread that Im assuming should have been brought to the table soon after the water. My wife ordered a scallop and shrimp dish that was delicious, I ordered a seafood casserole dish that didn't have a lot going on in the flavor department, and for the price of the dish I would expect to see more seafood, it was mostly beans with very little shrimp, fish, and andouille sausage. and to top it all off our waitress took my wife's drink away before she was finished, there wasn't much left but she should of asked.
- Midsummer Night in NOLANickDined on 6/18/2014Great Cocktails, the bartender (Chris, I think) really knows his stuff. Service was spot on, the waiter did not miss a beat and was a step ahead of us at all times. The apps were good, just very small portions for the price. Entrees were good, just hope for a little more flavor in some of them, kind of bland for NOLA. I would definitely try it again.Special Features:
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Apple's new operating system, Leopard, got hacked in under two minutes today during the second day of a contest, deemed the "Super Bowl of security research" by the victorious hacker, reports various computer news Web sites.
The contest held at the CanSecWest security conference pitted three powerhouse OS' against each other: Apple's Vista versus Microsoft's Vista versus Linux's Ubuntu. The prize for cracking one of the three OSs first, reports PC World, was the defeated computer and a cash prize that would be slashed in half each day. On Wednesday the cash prize amounted to $20,000 but fell to $10,000 on Thursday when no hacker could compromise any of the OSs. During the first day, hack attacks were limited to attacking the computer over the network.
Then, it happened, according to InfoWorld:
[Charlie] Miller, a former National Security Agency employee best known as one of the researchers who first hacked Apple's iPhone last year, didn't take much time. Within 2 minutes, he directed the contest's organizers to visit a Web site that contained his exploit code, which then allowed him to seize control of the computer, as about 20 onlookers cheered him on.
PC Pro reports that neither Vista or Ubuntu have been hacked successfully yet, although there's one more day for hackers to try.
Miller's successful hack attack does present a problem for Apple, it means his attack exposed a security vulnerability, says InfoWorld.
Miller was quickly given a nondisclosure agreement to sign and he's not allowed to discuss particulars of his bug until the contest's sponsor, TippingPoint, can notify the vendor.
Contest rules state that Miller could only take advantage of software that was pre-installed on the Mac, so the flaw he exploited must have been accessible, or possibly inside, Apple's Safari browser.
By late Thursday, Apple engineers were already working on patching the issue, said Aaron Portnoy, a TippingPoint researcher who is one of the contest's judges.
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