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Best noodle soups in San Gabriel Valley?
- c
- chowchow12345678 Jan 21, 2010 06:30 PM
Where are some of your favorite noodle soup places? Here are my favorites:
Mandarin Noodle's beef stew noodle soup
Kingburg Kitchen's noodle soup with pork and snow cabbage (#17, whatever that is)
Santouka Ramen
Pho from Vietnam Restaurant (the little one on Las Tunas in San Gabriel)
I'm always looking for good noodle soups, regardless of what type, so I'd love to hear your favorites.
re: ipsedixit
Let's also note that JTYH's lamb noodle soup is excellent. Still need to try the cold iced ones...I meant to go last week, during the heat wave but now it's rainy and cold. Meh.
JTYH Restaurant
9425 Valley Blvd, Rosemead, CA 91770
re: ipsedixit
Hate to have to say this but I found the ice noodles at JTYH to be underwhelming and pretty dull. I wrote up a longer review elsewhere but since I'm checking off different noodle soups in this thread, I thought it was relevant to note:
1) It wasn't that cold. I want my ice noodles icy-cold, not "sort of cool".
2) Their noodles were all clumped together, which meant that, in trying to eat them, you're cramming mouthfuls of noodles at a time since it's very hard to stream them off in a more manageable portions. I've had this happen in a few Korean places but the better ones I've been to, the noodles aren't as stuck together, let alone clumped in a big ball.
JTYH Restaurant
9425 Valley Blvd, Rosemead, CA 91770
re: ipsedixit
Could have been a one-time thing. As it is, with the weather turning cold, I'll probably stick with hot noodles for the next few.
I was just thinking about this very same question but um: how is Santouka in the SGV when the only two locations I know of are either on the Westside or the South Bay?
Also, on the beef noodle soup tip, I still think Mama's Kitchen comes with it. If only their beef was stewed just a touch better.
3760 S Centinela Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90066
Mama's Kitchen
1718 New Ave, San Gabriel, CA 91776
re: Ernie
THANK YOU! I have been singing that soup's praises on here for a few years and no one ever seems to try it. It is so much better than any of the other Phos! It is #36 or 37 (I can never remember which). Get it with one of their toasted baguettes and butter (not on the menu) for dipping. Sheer heaven!
re: WildSwede
Yes, it is delicious and I have never seen grilled pork pho anywhere else. Great to have with the colder weather we have been having :)
re: Ernie
Yeah, at Vietnam Restaurant on Baldwin south of Duarte, I get the Pho, no meat, and get a side of their grilled pork (which is AWESOME) and add it to the soup and it comes out okay (they are closer to me than Pho 79). I have tried this at Vietnam House on Las Tunas but their pork is so gross and flavorless that it does not work at all - it adds no flavor.
Pho 79 is amazing. I sit there eating it when it is 100+ degrees, sweating, nose running and in utter bliss!! ;-)
Vietnam House
710 W Las Tunas Dr, San Gabriel, CA 91776
Ok, so this is what I was thinking about when I was having lunch at Mama's Kitchen the other day: I want to create a rubric for evaluating "the best noodle soup in LA". I fully confess, I started with what Rameniac uses and then adapted it:
Soup flavor/texture
Noodle texture
Soup/noodle ratio (Rameniac doesn't include this but to me, it's kind of fundamental and different from just evaluating soup and noodle individually)
"Etc." (Cutlery, ambiance)
I feel like this covers the most important parts though I'm still not sure if Etc. makes sense or not given how broad that may be. Rameniac calls his "intangibles" but that's a slightly different concept (and he puts Ambiance as its own category). Maybe I should make it a negative attribute, i.e. you don't get points for having good ambiance but you can lose points if it sucks.
Two questions:
1) What suggestions might folks make to the rubric?
2) Who wants to join me to putting this to the test? I figure...one spot a week for at least half a year to try 20 places, different kinds of noodle soups.
Mama's Kitchen
1718 New Ave, San Gabriel, CA 91776
I'll risk the derision of the Hardcore SGV 'Hounds and recommend the satay beef soup with molokhia noodles at Green Zone. Yeah, it really is that good ...
Green Zone
534 E Valley Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776
Salmon and tomato noodle soup at Tasty House Noodle by the 99 Ranch Market in Hacienda Heights.
99 Ranch
17713 Pioneer Blvd, Artesia, CA
As part of my hunt for noodle soup greatness (in the SGV and beyond), I went and tried Kam Hong Garden's hand-pulled noodles (beef noodle soup style), especially having been encouraged by these reviews: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6560...
Verdict: Decent noodles but not a great beef noodle soup. Basically, the broth was way too bland, at least based on what came out of the kitchen. I got it to a more acceptable level with liberal additions of vinegar, soy sauce and chili paste but having been impressed by the "stock" broth that places like Mama's Kitchen, Mei Long Village and Tasty Noodle include, I thought KHG's was way too mild and dull.
That also extended to the noodles. Great texture - firm and chewy - but the noodles and the soup felt like separate dishes, both bland. There was no integration between the two, unlike, say, when JYTH's lamb noodle soup is hitting on all cylinders (not guaranteed btw, but when it works, it really works).
Mei Long Village
301 W Valley Blvd Ste 112, San Gabriel, CA 91776
Kam Hong Garden
848 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA
Mama's Kitchen
1718 New Ave, San Gabriel, CA 91776
Tasty Noodle House (Yi Pin
)827 W. Las Tunas Dr., San Gabriel, CA 91776
re: ipsedixit
Roast duck won ton only for me.
Went the other day and notice at the take out section they call their duck "roast duck" and not "Peking duck" anymore.
re: monku
It was always "roast duck" in Chinese.
And with Sam Woo, I always wonder if those fans of the Yang Chow slippery shrimp would think twice about their favorite dish if they ever had a chance to try the honey walnut shrimp at Sam Woo (or an Canto restuarant). To me, it's about 10x better and 5x more refined.
re: ipsedixit
i prefer it.
because it has wonton.
and i like the interplay of textures.
re: monku
The won ton noodle soup at Sam Woo is probably one of my retro favorites. Especially the beef stew (gnau nam) won ton noodles. Roast duck (siu op) would my second choice. Golden City in LA Chinatown has been serving this since the 60s as I remember even after all of their management changes throughout the decades? Vietnamese PHO is OK but not high on my list. I guess I'm just old fashioned?
re: Clinton
where's Sam Woo? I can always go for really tasty Roast Duck with crispy skin.
Sam Woo Cafe
727 N Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90012
hmmm i like the beef and tendon soup at 101 noodle express.
I like the shanghai noodle soup at Giang-nan and at mei long village.
I like the lamb noode soup and the Pao mo (not really straight noodle, more like farinaceous dumplings in the soup) at China Islamic.
China Islamic Restaurant
7727 Garvey Ave, Rosemead, CA 91770
re: Jerome
Thread bump.
I need some more recommendations. My summer routine has been to write in the mornings and then treat myself to a noodle soup lunch. Here's where I've been so far:
•Nha Trang (4 times; I basically tried every noodle soup on their menu. All of it was uniformly good but I'm not trying to go back again for a while!)
•Tasty Noodle (beef noodle soup)
•Ton Chan (shio ramen. It's not Gardena good. But not bad).
•Mama's Kitchen (beef noodle soup)
•Olympic Noodles + Ma Dong Gook Soo (not in the SGV, obviously. Still good though!)
•Noodle Guy (pho filet)
Ok - I need new ideas for other noodle soups, preferably in the Alhambra/San Gabriel area.
re: odub
Mi Quang @ Quan Mien Trung (sorta soupy, but delicious)
Bun Bo Hue at Bun Rieu Quan
Liang's Taiwanese beef noodle soup (hit n miss depending on location)
Viet/Chinese Beef Noodle Soup at Fresh Roast: http://sinosoul.com/2011/05/the-best-...
Lamb soup w/ knife shaved noodles @ JTYH.
"Assorted" Chiu Chao rice noodle Mien Nghia
how much writing do you have to do?
re: TonyC
Tony: I have another 3.5 weeks worth of time.
Love JTYH, going there for lunch tomorrow.
Done Mien Nghia (not a fan). Same with Liang's NRM.
I'm most interested in Fresh Roast but will also add Quan Mien Trung and Bun Rieu Quan to the list. Thanks dude - your site is a godsend in this regard.
What happened with eatingvalleyblvd though? You get URL jacked?
Fresh Roast
308 S San Gabriel Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776
Mien Nghia Restaurant
406 W Valley Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776
JTYH Restaurant
9425 Valley Blvd, Rosemead, CA 91770
re: odub
Thanks for reading odub. EVB was a nice thought but... I'd rather chow than "blog" so... eeennhh.. Further, Chandavkl + others here are doing a banging job covering the same.
From a NRM vantage, it's difficult to appreciate Mien Nghia's chiu chao noodles as it's rather.. cleansing (some suggests bland). With a hardy dousing of the house vinegar chili, I think the combo rice noodle dances. Either that, or I was high from an anti-carb diet. But I hear you.
If you're on a BBH tour, the other off-the-radar bowl would be at Banh Xeo Quan. Final entry for BBH would be from Kim Hoa Hue. Actual ingredient isn't the greatest, but the broth's damned pungent, and they have so many varieties of fermented seafood pastes (at 10am!?!)
I still like Kingburg, but it's been eons since I've visited.
Since it's getting "hot", I'd also stake my dink blog on a bowl of Chao (Korean) style cold noodle from Shenyang Restaurant. At $7, it will be that better bowl of naeng myeon you'll ever have in LA, for the rest of the your life.
G'luck w/ the writing project.
Kim Hoa Hue
9813 Garvey Ave, El Monte, CA 91733
Banh Xeo Quan
8742 Garvey Ave, Rosemead, CA 91770
Mien Nghia Restaurant
406 W Valley Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776
re: TonyC
Tony: went to Shen Yang. Cold noodles were pretty decent (better than what I had at JTYH last summer) though I found the broth almost too strong in seasoning to drink; it was better as a dipping sauce for the noodles.
The cumin chicken bones though? Incredible. I often done the poor man's version with this with by with chicken necks but it never occurred to me you could do a whole plate like that. GENIUS.
JTYH Restaurant
9425 Valley Blvd, Rosemead, CA 91770
re: odub
odub, in case you're still chasing the noodles, Bun Rieu Quan is sadly closed.
Interesting take on Shen Yang's cold noodles. Perhaps my taste buds are getting dense as we usually have no problem drinking (at least partial portions) of the soup base.
Cumin Chix Bones are a bit revelational. Imagine say... Bistro LQ serving that up? It's a shocker.
Bistro LQ
8009 Beverly Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90048
re: will47
Yes! the lian pi with the industrial Sysco mustard sauce at Shen Yang is rather tasty.. It is so unfortunate Lao Bian was sold. They did a stir fry lian pi that was second to none. Actually just "none", since no one else served it as such.
, Diamond Bar, CA 91765
re: Rosiepigs
check this link for exposition on Shen Yang:
You do not ingest the bones, though feel free to gnaw on the bones. There is little meat, but this dish is clearly meant as beer food; it's much too laborious (akin to Boiling Crab) for a sober soul. The plate nearly big enough to hold a paella for 2 and weighs 2+ pounds.
From what I gathered, the bones are deep fried, then quickly wok-tossed with a sugar / cumin / soy mix. This is a stand alone dish, not served as a second course to anything else.
Feedback much appreciated. The ultimate goal is to push this dish into JGold's top 99 of 2012.
re: TonyC
Still chasing noodles. Did Fresh Roast on Monday. I think their NRM was well made but not particularly memorable. Definitely not what you'd expect at an espresso house though!
Tomorrow, I'm hitting up that Thai noodle spot your wrote about in Monterey Park.
Fresh Roast
308 S San Gabriel Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776
re: odub
Thanks for the update odub. Chalk that one up as a downhill alert.
Seems like you still have plenty of time, which means it's time for Yoma's mohinga and oh no kway swe (khaut sway, khao swe - however you transliterate it). I believe will47 has visited as well.
These are 2 of my fave bowls of non-Vietnamese/Chinese noodles in all of WSGV and can only be found together on 3 restaurant menus in LA.
Yoma Restaurant
713 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA
re: TonyC
Yoma sounds interesting; haven't had any kind of Burmese cuisine in a long time.
Meant to reply re: Hok-Ya. Decent Thai noodle soups but unmemorable. They don't spare the spicy, that's for sure! Rice plates look kind of proper; if I ever go back, I'm sampling that.
Yoma Restaurant
713 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA
re: odub
Didn't go to Yoma today. Did do Mandarin Noodle House instead and remembered (after the meal) why I hadn't been back there in over a year: their hand-pulled noodles start out ok but somehow get soggy very quickly. Plus, rather tepid broth for a beef noodle soup. Oh well...
Yoma Restaurant
713 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA
Mandarin Noodle House
701 W Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA 91754
re: odub
Yoma is a little depressing inside... rarely many people in there, and it seems like maybe it's declined even a bit more over the past few years. And somehow, despite always being empty, the service is pretty bad, even for an Asian hole in the wall type place. But it is one of the only Burmese places close by. Golden Triangle seems to have declined a bit as well over the past few years.
Pandanexpress likes the fish chowder http://www.runawaysquirrels.com/2009/...
Golden Triangle
7011 Greenleaf Ave, Whittier, CA 90602
Yoma Restaurant
713 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA
re: will47
Tony/Will: *Loved* Yoma. I didn't find it that depressing (maybe it's all the pastels) and I thought the food was great. I had the fish stew, my wife had the garlic noodles, and we split a samusas plate and I found everything really really good. Very much looking forward to going back and sampling more from the menu.
Yoma Restaurant
713 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA
re: odub
I am a huge freakin' Yoma fan. Yes, the Burmese still go for the mohinga lady on Del Mar, but no one else in LA is offering as wide (and rotating) of a Burmese menu as Yoma. Since Joan took over 3+ years ago, food has been consistent albeit rather slow.
Their fish cake curry and pong ye jyi pork are top notch (also un contested in LA), while the sour leaf stir fry & Chinese watercrest soup both punch you in the face (in the wrong way, but whatever).
Here's a group dinner circa 08 with 10+ courses at Yoma:
Yoma Restaurant
713 E Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA
Del Mar Cafe
712 S Del Mar Ave, San Gabriel, CA 91776
re: TonyC
"I'd also stake my dink blog on a bowl of Chao (Korean) style cold noodle from Shenyang Restaurant. At $7, it will be that better bowl of naeng myeon you'll ever have in LA, for the rest of the your life."
I tried the cold noodles at SY last Saturday and was really disappointed. I agree with Tony on most things, but I don't see the charm of this dish at all. I prefer the mool nengmyun at Ham Hung over Shen Yang's cold noodles by a mile. The broth for the cold noodles at SY just seemed to be one dimensional soy-and-garlic.
Shen Yang's sweet and sour pork is outstanding, though!
re: Peripatetic
The crab, shrimp and pork soup (#16a) with soup broth separate at the Golden Deli. And get a cafe sua da- you got yourself and incredible meal.
Golden Deli
815 W Las Tunas Dr, San Gabriel, CA 91776
re: Peripatetic
How timely.
Just had the Ham Hung bibim (& mul) naeng myeon last weekend. They dropped the prices down the $8 after the move, finally.
Soy + Garlic + noodles is just... my comfort circle. I will prefer that, over any other flavor base, probably for the rest of my life. Can't force it on anyone else I suppose.
The price is right though, and the SY bowl is rather filling, whereas the K-town vesions are not.
Ham Hung Restaurant
809 S Ardmore Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90005
re: TonyC
I just had a bowl of the SY noodles for lunch the other day and I concur that the broth is not beefy, but that's not really a complaint because I too am a fan of soy + garlic + sour. It is definitely a giant bowl of noodles. I also like that it's actually burn-my-lips spicy whereas when I get ktown naeng myeon it's just "Oh, it's kinda red, okay" spicy.
re: TonyC
Haven't been back to Ham Hung since they moved. I'll sort of miss that bizarre tunnel of a dining room. The photos of the new place make it look like just another branch of Yu Chun.
> Soy + Garlic + noodles is just... my comfort circle. I will prefer
> that, over any other flavor base, probably for the rest of my life
Understand completely. But don't you think someone could do the SY version so much better? Eating SY's version reminded me of eating nengmung in Boston in the late 80's -- I didn't get it at all. It wasn't until I had excellent nengmyun (at Dae Dong in Woodside, Queens) that I developed my longstanding addiction.
re: odub
getting back to your "Demand" of Xi'an FF's wide hand pulled noodles, besides Kam Hong's wide knife cut, hand knead --
NT Dumpling House has a hand pulled wide noodle that's very "toothy", but still not as irregular as knife shaved.
Malan also has medium flat (I forget which #) which is also hand pulled.
Bottom line, whatever XFF offers (save for the "burgers) is available in LA.
Dumpling House Restaurant
5612 Rosemead Blvd, Temple City, CA 91780
re: TonyC
TonyC: Thumbs up on NT Dumpling House. The broth for their beef noodle soup could have been better (like with many spots around town, I want it to be more aggressive) but the noodles were fantastic - they held up to the very end and had that kind of chewy al dente-ness that I love about hand-pulled noodles. I'm now curious how this would hold up as a dan dan or jia jia mien base.
Dare I say, I might even have liked it better than the knife-cut at JYTH which, despite my normal starch obsessions, is sometimes a bit too much, even for me.
Any other dishes you'd recommend here ?
re: odub
I double-downed and lost; went back to NTDH and got the lamb noodle soup this time. Bad move.
Super-bland broth and they didn't use the wide noodles either. Really disappointing.
In contrast, they also have Chao-style cold noodles there and I thought did a really good job with them. My wife ordered those and she thought they were better than what she had at Shen Yang the other week. I liked them better here too since I found Shen Yang's soup too aggressive, even for me.
re: JThur01
odub, you're hilarious..
NB: you can specify wide noodles for every dish (even when it is offered in combo form). Isn't your writing project finished by now? If not, it's going to turn you into a carbwhore.
Of note: Due to lack of demand, JTYH has stopped serving naeng myeon (the shame) and NTDH has stepped up to fill the void.
Again, I prefer Shen Yang for its gentle massaging of the balls, but the chickie insists NTDH is home for this summer.
JThur: have not experienced the new Dragon Mark. Suffered Supreme Dragon (Rowland) for years during which I had no power of the purse & I vowed not to return thereafter.
Supreme Dragon
18406 Colima Rd, Rowland Heights, CA 91748
JTYH Restaurant
9425 Valley Blvd, Rosemead, CA 91770
Dragon Mark
127 Garfield Pl, Los Angeles, CA 90068
re: TonyC
Tony: This is the last week I have to work on the writing project full-time; starting next week, I'll be at USC at least 4 days a week for the next month. Mo-Chica, here I come!
As for NTDH, I'll keep that in mind for the future but man, that lamb soup was weak.
3655 S Grand Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90007
re: Peripatetic
JTYH the shanxi noodle house on valley served korean style cold noodles? when was this? surprised.
noodle house
46 W Las Tunas Drive, Arcadia, CA 91007
JTYH Restaurant
9425 Valley Blvd, Rosemead, CA 91770
re: Peripatetic
I was in the minority of folks who didn't like JTYH's...but I think I just got a weak bowl. It wasn't very cold and that soup - near room temperature - just is not a pleasant thing to eat. Plus, I found the soup rather one dimensional.
I thought the NTDH bowl was very solid; they even serve it in a dark bowl, which accents the color of the soup well (whereas their other soups, from what I saw, usually come in white).
re: Peripatetic
New Taste Dumpling House's naeng myeon is rather demure. The noodles cooked to death, broth tame, though cold. It is, alas, also not very "beefy". I prefer JTYH, but The Other Mouth says "it's basically the same". I think The Other Mouth is off her rockers.
But odub seems like like a cool soothing broth, so it might be your (Peripatetic) thing as well? It is the antithesis of Shen Yang.
JTYH Restaurant
9425 Valley Blvd, Rosemead, CA 91770
re: TonyC
I dunno; there's a real sweet spot for me between a broth that's too tame and one that's too aggressive. My usual complaint are too-tame broths (a cardinal sin for a soup-based dish) but with Shen Yang, much to my surprise, they just went too far in the other direction. It was like drinking a sauce. I actually don't like "soothing" broths at all - I like rich, savory, complex broths but Shen Yang felt like it was stabbing my tongue (too much vinegar perhaps?)
Anyways, today is the last day of the writing part of my summer. Six weeks, five chapters revised, 8000 words added. I think I had about 15-18 bowls of noodle between then. Trying to add up all the places I went to.
re: JThur01
I was down by downtown...hit up Hoan Kiem for pho ga. Pretty darn good. I know some think they've fallen off but I thought it was comparable to the bowl of pho ga I had at Nha Trang the other week.
Hoan Kiem
727 N Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Nha Trang
311 E Valley Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776
re: odub
Final accounting (favorite spots marked by *)
*Nha Trang (x4)
*NT Dumpling House (x2)
*Yoma (x2)
*Olympic Noodle
Ton Chan
*Mama's Kitchen
Noodle Guy
Ma Dong Gook So
Shen Yang
Fresh Roast
*Tasty Noodle House
Kingburg Kitchen
Mandarin Noodle House
Hoan Kiem
Hoan Kiem
727 N Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Dumpling House Restaurant
5612 Rosemead Blvd, Temple City, CA 91780
Kingburg Kitchen
715 W Las Tunas Dr, San Gabriel, CA 91776
Fresh Roast
308 S San Gabriel Blvd, San Gabriel, CA 91776
Mandarin Noodle House
701 W Garvey Ave, Monterey Park, CA 91754
Noodle Guy
1257 E Valley Blvd, Alhambra, CA 91801
re: odub
I started keeping a running track of where I've been since the beginning of summer (though not every spot is included): http://bowlingfornoodles.tumblr.com/
I need more recs! Since that July update, I've also been to:
House of Mandarin Noodle
King's Kitchen
Viet Noodle Bar
...and probably half a dozen other places (though almost none of them worth mentioning).
Viet Noodle Bar
3133 1 2 Glendale Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90039
King's Kitchen
500 N Gilbert St, Fullerton, CA 92833
re: odub
odub, I know you probably won't enjoy Fujin's ridiculously gelatinous ramen broth (as well as it's equally ridiculous location), but just to throw it out there:
Their shoyu + chicken stock based niou rou mian was rather intense as well. It's easy to argue the authenticity, but whatevers. The bowl of NRM with custom spec'd Myojyo noodles and savory caramelized beef is far superior to the $5 buckets of thinned soy sauce being hawked in WSGV. Fujin FTW.
Fujin Ramen
1017 S Glendora Ave, West Covina, CA 91790
surprisingly, i had really good pho at tay ho in sg on valley not too long ago. i never tried their pho when they introduced it eons ago, afterall, that's not what they specialize in. except for their steamed rice sheet , everything they're known for has been not up to par. overcooked, very microwaved, and very hard to eat too. not just this branch, i tried another in little saigon recently, and it was even worse. big downer.
hopefully not tmi, but i've actually been doing a really weird experiment. ordering just the soup water for to-go and making the completed pho at home (i use my own noodles and meat). yes, i get some odd looks when i ask, mainly because they don't know what to charge, but so far so good.
it's surprising to see how different the broths are at each restaurant. some are dark and have stronger star anise and/or clover taste. some are really salty too. i liked tay ho's because it was very light and clear.
for the record, the above, i did eat the pho at tay ho (the lil pieces of ginger were nice). i also took home an order of broth too.
Nobody has mentioned Wing Wa. I've been hooked on beef noodle soup ever since my first go of it in China, and have been seeking it's best state-side incarnation ever since. Not to chase that flavor, but to BETTER it. And not surprisingly, I have. Several times over.
But what a man likes in a good bowl of NRM is as subjective as what a man likes in a woman. Just as there are ass men, tits men, and legs men, the noodle world equivalents are meat men, noodle men, and broth men.
I used to think I was a noodle man. After my first taste of knife-cut noodles, it was all over for me. I chased after them in China, and then after my return to the states, chased after them twice as hard. I moved to the SGV, over 20 miles away from my job, to plant my face in the crotch of exile Chinese cookery. And I found those noodles, in such places as JTYH and Kam Hong Garden. Even so, something was missing. I realized that noodles were the garter belts of a good NRM; filled with erotic suggestion, but whose fulfillment was requisite on other factors that were somehow lacking in either establishment.
The texture of those noodles was perfection itself...what was missing was the FLAVOR. The promise in each bowl was a ticket to Nirvana, but the taste was a stopover in Phoenix.
What I've ended up with is a compromise; the most singularly thrilling broth of NRM I've ever encountered as the star, backed up with a contingent of second-rate co-stars; noodles that have a good toothiness, but aren't on the same par as knife-cut; beef that is amazingly tender and flavorful, but small in abundance and too small in ratio to tendon. But with a thrilling co-star; the veggies. Singular to this establishment, and honestly make you wonder why no other place in the SGV...or China...has caught on.
So even with only passable (though better than average) noodles and beef offerings, Ming Wa is my NRM fave right now.
Just kinda surprised, given the level of knowledge here, that it hasn't been mentioned yet.
re: jigsawlogic
Ming Wa's been covered elsewhere: http://su.pr/2O3DMo
Personally, the conclusions were opposite. Ming Wa's noodles are exemplary in the fact they're unique in WSGV, but the broth is so lacking it's not even worth slurping. This, after 3 visits in 2 months span, though it was over 3 years ago.
Nicely written though. China has so much bad Chinese food, it's unsurprising that NRM, even in LA, can surpass the halal beef noodle soups in say, Shanghai streets.
re: Jerome
not too digress on this thread, but the Hu's Szeuchwuan on National and motor, you mentioned they have a good chinese beef jerky dishe on the menu, do you happen to remember the name of it?
re: Jerome
Why don't chinese characters actually come "up" in ch posts? I just see squares... Maybe I am doing something wrong, is it possible to see them?
re: Ciao Bob
That's an issue with your browser. Are you using IE? An older version perhaps?
re: ipsedixit
Ahhhh, that's it.
Thanks for the the it, id!
re: Jerome
I can see the Chinese characters but I can't read them.
Since last summer, I've been steadily adding more spots to my noodle soup tumblr: http://bowlingfornoodles.tumblr.com/
Thought I'd update here too, starting with my current "best of both worlds" NRM:
Tasty Garden (288 W Valley Blvd, Alhambra
)Hand-cut noodles (from what I can tell, but you have to specify you want to the wide/kwan noodles/mien) and a pretty decent "big spicy" broth that isn't quite as aggro as Mama's Kitchen but is still plenty flavorful. Great, tender beef too. It's my current favorite in terms of somewhere with strong broth and strong noodles. I had a good experience at A&J in Arcadia but that's inconvenient enough to get to (for me) that I haven't bothered to run back there since.
Tasty Garden also has very good meat pies. I can't say if they're better or worse than Beijing Pie House but bottomline: they're very good. And a ridiculous serving; if you can finish off a single plate on your own, you're a (literally) bigger man than me.
I've also been on a total pho ga kick, mostly b/c I'm deluding myself into thinking that it's a healthier option than constant bowls of beef noodles or ramen. I still think Nha Trang pulls this dish off lovely BUT based on the additional component of convenience, I'd have to give a strong nod to Pho Ga, which is located at the corner of Valley and San Gabriel. It won't blow your mind but it's consistently good (except for the one time I went there after opening and the broth was practically flavorless) and I prefer to get the chicken shredded vs. cut (but that's me).
In general, my morning routine a few days a week has been to start the day with a pho ga + iced coffee but to be honest, given that my options are limited by restaurants actually open for breakfast, there's no place I'd really recommend on general merit. There's a couple of places off the 10 which are open by 9 but none of them turn out a particularly memorable pho ga.
Not in the SGV, but I did finally try Tsujita, twice. I liked the ramen > tsukemen but I thought everything there was well-executed. Still need to get my ass back to Santouka to try their #7 (which didn't exist last time I was there, I don't think)
re: TonyC
Tony: I've had to fall back this semester (b/c of my teaching schedule). That's one reason I've moved my noodle eating from lunch to breakfast instead. I mostly have been doing this place: http://www.yelp.com/biz/pho-ga-bac-ni...
It's perfectly acceptable, especially for a place open at 8am and serves $6 pho ga. But I didn't know about Banh Mi Che Cali's $3 special! They're actually a tad closer to where I live too so maybe I'll try them tomorrow.
I do wish Fujin Ramen was closer; I'd be killing their Lanzhou beef noodle soup on the regular if that were the case.
re: TonyC
Hit BMCC for $3 pho ga the last two mornings. All said, that's a pretty insanely good deal. Worth the extra 1-2 miles to roll through before the morning commute.
But yo: what new noodle soup spots should I be looking for? My summer writing sojourn is about to kick off in a few weeks and I need to start prepping my wish list.
re: odub
sorry for the delayed response odub. I've been avoiding carbs like the plague recently.
As I mentioned in the other noodle post: H&H's Lanzhou style hand-pulled la mian is very impressive. You're no your own regarding their soup bases. I'd avoid soups there all together. But the noodles are really top notch, IMO. Dare I say: toothy? *gag*
The other hit I've had recently is probably way, WAY too far for your summer session: Monja's new beef "rice stick" noodle soup is provacative. I prefer it over nearly all pho's in the hood.
Also, I don't know if you've been hitting Hoy Ka. They can basically tailor any noodle (kuay tieu!) in any soup base to your liking (just like Pa Ord). The Thai's are still NOT unconvinced by this "franchised" joint run by an ex-singer, but the locals are grateful.
Surely you've seen the Nha Trang across BMCC Monterey Park? More seats, smaller menu. It's depressing NT decided to stay dumb after they expanded to MPK. Not impressed.
Finally, Tay Do Quan Hy remains the better Vietnamese noodle house over every crappy Chiu Chao $5 joint in WSGV. I don't know it's accessible to you, I don't know if you've been, but I freaking love it.
re: TonyC
Hi Tony, I am adding your places to my list of places to try - I have not been to any of them. I googled Tay Do Quan Hy to see where it is and yelp (I know, but hold on) came up. I like to look at the pics of offerings. However, I noticed that the recent reviews were indicating that there have been changes and that it is not as good as it once was. How recently have you been and have you noted any changes as these people have? Thanks!
re: WildSwede
Thanks to WildSwede's yelp work (who says it's useless?), I contacted the family, and found out the Tay Dao Quan Hy was sold first week of April, 2012.
I haven't been since beginning of the year. No news if they will re-open.
Good Vietnamese home-style cooking keeps disappearing (Quan Mien Trung, Bun Rieu Quan, now Quan Hy), but hey, Spice Table is STILL selling that Hainan chicken.
re: WildSwede
FWIW, confirmed ex-owners of Tay Do Quan Hy will NOT re-open elsewhere.
I know no one cares, but to this day, I wonder where Pho Le Loi boys went.
re: TonyC
> I know no one cares, but to this day, I wonder where Pho Le Loi boys went.
My missing-in-action list:
- Eric Lam of Pho Minh
- Linda of Noodle House (at 46 Las Tunas, TC -- replaced by the inferior Doe Jon Station).
- Johnny and Richard of Pho Le Loi
- The Tianjin ladies from DSW
- The proprietors of Bun Rieu Quan
- Nina from Breed Street "Food Fair"
Maybe we should start a "missed connections" thread.
re: Peripatetic
Mrs. He of DSW, the Tianjin lady that I got to know best at DSW, has returned to China. Monterey Park is the new Dongguan. IIRC, her son was having a hard time finding employment, and life was generally rather difficult.
I've sent a note to someone who might know Eric Lam's whereabouts, but haven't heard back.
Also, can we talk about how absolutely horrid Doe Jon Station has become? I mean, that stuff is just despicable, with Garage Restaurant being the only Chinese breakfast place serving food that is more vile.
re: WildSwede
WS - no need to apologize for using yelp for navigation and foto-porn - it is great for that! I spend half the time (when I am driving - it's the whole time when I am not driving) on the way to a new place using the yelp app for pics and zeroing in.
re: Ciao Bob
;-) Thanks! I would love to arrange a group to go around and try some of these places.
re: WildSwede
Well, definitely let me know too. I have no clue about noodle soups.
save for the one at dai ho kitchen.
re: TonyC
I hit up the new Nha Trang the other week. I actually like the limited menu and I still think they execute on everything they do really well (which is made easier by the fact that they only serve *4 dishes* there.
H & H sounds interesting; might be worth a visit. Either that or Sweethome Grill today.
re: odub
Went to Sweet home today, toting along two friends to help with the portion control (as I found out the other day, I'm both prediabetic and have high cholesterol. My days of 3-4 noodles/week = over). SHG serves very very very long handmade noodles. Almost annoying long. But they have great texture.
The beef noodle soup was solid. Decent broth. The dish did include glass noodles which I found to be distracting; didn't need 'em. We also tried cold noodles with sesame sauce and that was also quite good, especially with the tang of vinegar hanging off them. Their cold cucumber was quite good and their cumin lamb skewers were also good, but nothing mind-blowing.
re: Ciao Bob
429 W Garvey Ave
Monterey Park, CA 91754
It was a Sichuan style restaurant late last year, then it switched to Dong Bei cuisine, then it added Lanzhou noodles & skewers (but still apparently kept the Sichuan menu).
All kinds of schizo fo sho, but the hand pulled "pasta" would impress even the most ardent Italian noodle freaks.
If they can throw these actual "ramen" into a bowl of Jidaiya's tonkotsu miso , I wouldn't have to eat another bowl of noodles again in '12.
re: Johnny L
Re: Nha Trang staying dumb...
Nha Trang removed all the chicken dishes from her menu after the proprietress returned from Vietnam. She just decided she no longer wanted to cook chicken (the restaurant manager's words, not mine). The original menu was already rather paltry, but the chickens added depth. I think the move was dumb (and lazy). The second branch stayed dumb by not re-adding the Hainam chix + pho ga back to the menu.
re: poggibonzzi
I love this place. Though it may be too commercial and pricey compared to the new crop of joints that are opening up in the area.
re: kevin
It used to be on Valley Rd. and it had an incredible take out braised duck too. Then it disappeared. I was so happy to find it again after years had passed. Braised duck is no longer on the menu but their spicy beef noodle is, so I make the pilgrimage from the westside to bf Temple City to get my fix. Their side dishes are mediocre but. I willingly shell out the extra shekels and put up with plastic spoons for their beef noodle soup because it seems they must use a ton of bones to make their soup and there are enough pieces of beef shank for to slurp down their huge bowl of noodles. I used to think AJ out in Irvine had the best beef noodle soup but AJ's branch in Temple City was a huge disappointment. The one in Irvine remains quite good.
re: poggibonzzi
The problem with Dai Ho is their noodles. Given their prices, it's a crime that they use commercial pre-packaged noodles. Broth and fixins are fantastic, as is the lu-wei.
re: ipsedixit
what's lu-wei?
Ding Garden's beef stew is better than the Mandarin Noodle IMHO. I like them spicy, so I requested extra spicy.
Best Pho in SGV is probably at Pho Ha in Industry/Rowland Heights, but it's not comparable to Pho 79 in Westminster. I used to live in San Jose, so I think I am a little spoiled when it comes to Pho. I think most Pho places in San Jose were better than the ones here.
re: bhungry
Did Ding's reopen, or have more than one location? They closed at their San Gabriel location in 2010, now replaced by Lucky Noodle King.
re: Peripatetic
There's a Ding in Rowland Heights, near Coconut Bay


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Following the tragic death of Robin Williams , Paramore paid musical tribute to the late funnyman by dedicating a song to him that reflected the band's own struggles with depression.
A fan-shot YouTube video from the band's show on Tuesday, the day after Williams' death, has been posted online, which shows singer Hayley Williams introducing the song "Last Hope" by explaining, "I realized how sad that we had been and that we had been in this place where we weren't content and we weren't fulfilled and it was very scary and it was very depressing and then this song happened, and then a light came on, and it was amazing how much I realized that I'm a part of something -- we, the three of us, are a part of something."
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Late Monday, the California Highway Patrol issued a statewide Amber
Alert for two children believed kidnapped in San Diego County. And moments
later, tens of thousands of cellphones in Sacramento buzzed with a high-pitched,
10-second tone and a brief text message.
Area residents may have been extra startled. They said Amber Alert notifications -- used in an effort to recover abducted children -- have not automatically appeared in this fashion on their cellphones in Sacramento before.
Many found it jarring because it disturbed their bedtime rituals at 11 p.m., and confusing because they had no idea their phones even had such capabilities. Others reported the alert flashed on their televisions.
It created an instant uproar on Facebook, Twitter and other social media sites.
The message itself was a car description: blue Nissan Versa with California license plate 6WCU986. The car was believed to be driven by James Lee DiMaggio, who is suspected of killing Christina Anderson, 44, and abducting one or both of her two children, Hannah Anderson, 16, and Ethan Anderson, 8. Authorities said DiMaggio might have been on his way to Canada from Boulevard, a small community in San Diego County.
DiMaggio's whereabouts remained unknown late Tuesday.
It wasn't clear how helpful the Amber Alert was. The San Diego County Sheriff's Department said it couldn't decipher which tips on the case might have come from Amber Alert or other sources.
The Amber Alert notification is part of a nationwide Wireless Emergency Alert program, which started in April 2012.
When there's an emergency situation, alerts are automatically sent to millions of wireless phones in the specified, affected region.
On top of Amber Alerts, presidential alerts related to national security, and imminent threat alerts related to natural disasters are also sent out.
"We don't want alert fatigue," said Bob Hover of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. "It's being done judiciously."
For some Sacramentans, Monday's alert was so shocking that they disabled the system immediately.
It varies by phone, but most can go through their phone's settings and find a section called "Government Alerts" under notification settings.
William Ishmael, a 67-year-old Sacramento artist, turned the notifications off, as he was disturbed by the loud sound and the late hour.
"It's startling," he said. "Your phone is screaming at you, and you don't know what's going on."
Dwight Hansen echoed Ishmael, though Hansen ultimately reactivated the feature on Tuesday morning. Most distressing was that the alert disappeared right when Hansen tried to read it. He searched through his text messages and emails, but it was gone.
"I had no idea what it was," said the 57-year-old lobbyist in Sacramento. "I had to go on Facebook to figure it out."
"Gotta be honest, that Amber alert text scared the hell outta me & my wife. Terrifying noise from my phone that I didn't know it could make," Kieron Slaughter put on Twitter.
"Thanks amber alert for startling me and almost making me fall off the treadmill," tweeted Christopher Martinez.
Even though Ishmael could read the message, he felt it wasn't informative enough. Meanwhile, others complained that they received multiple, repeated alerts, stretching to 2 a.m.
According to Brian Josef of CTIA-The Wireless Association, which represents the wireless communication industry in this effort, the repeated texts and disappearing texts might be the fault of individual phones.
However, the notifications purposefully expire to keep information up-to-date. And they're intended to alert people to look up more information elsewhere, Hover said.
In terms of the late-night alerts, Jaime Coffee of the CHP said the agency issues an alert at any hour if a child is in danger.
"It's doesn't matter if it's 11 p.m. or 2 a.m.," she said. "The goal is to activate as quickly as possible."
Coffee emphasized that Amber Alert is used only in abduction cases when the child is in imminent danger of serious injury or death.
And the alerts also need concrete information that could help locate the child -- in under 90 characters and without photos, links or phone numbers. That leaves vehicle information, as was the case Monday.
About 100 Amber Alerts have been sent to wireless devices nationwide since Jan. 1.
Even though this was the first statewide incident, such alerts have been issued elsewhere in California: Santa Clara and Orange County.
The program replaced a 2005 opt-in version, which had nearly 800,000 users. Now newer cellphones -- most made in 2011 or later -- have an automatic emergency alert system built in. AT&T, Sprint Nextel, T-Mobile and Verizon Wireless are among the 98 percent of wireless providers who participate, Josef said.
While the CHP issues the Amber Alerts, the actual phone notification program is a joint effort of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, CTIA, Federal Communications Commission and Federal Emergency Management Agency.
There have been success stories. The first was in February when a 8-month-old baby was kidnapped in Minneapolis.
Someone saw the car described in an Amber Alert notification in their own neighborhood and called the police.
"It's protecting the public," Josef said. "People are getting rescued because of these alerts."
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As Eve LaPlante discusses in her book, Seized, the intense emotions, sensory experience including vibrancy of colors, and particular mental state provoked by temporal lobe abnormalities may have contributed to the creation of significant works of art. A number of well-known writers and artists are known, or in many cases suspected to have had temporal lobe epilepsy, aggravated, in some cases, by alcoholism. They include Vincent Van Gogh, Charles Dodgson (a.k.a. Lewis Carroll), Edgar Allan Poe, Fyodor Dostoevsky (whose novel The Idiot features a protagonist with epilepsy, Prince Myshkin), Gustave Flaubert, Philip K. Dick, Sylvia Plath and contemporary author Thom Jones. Peter O'Leary has also discussed this in relation to work of poet Philip Jenks in his "Gnostic Contagion: Robert Duncan and the Poetry of Illness". Sadi Ranson-Polizzotti has discussed the significance of Lewis Carroll's epilepsy online and in a forthcoming book on the subject.Perhaps written artistic expression in particular:
The first researcher to note and catalog the abnormal experiences associated with TLE was neurologist Norman Geschwind, who noted a constellation of symptoms, including hypergraphia, hyperreligiosity, fainting spells, and pedantism, often collectively ascribed to a condition known as Geschwind syndrome . [my emphasis]I was even able to find an account [pdf] of a patient who felt compelled to write rhymed poetry after the onset of his seizure disorder.


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Pull Out All the Stops to Help Your Teen
- Tuesday, May 25, 2010
Step Three: Establish and Enforce Consequences
Once boundaries are in place, there must be reasonable consequences for inappropriate behavior, and they must be enforced, or your credibility goes right out the window. And keep in mind that they must be enforced for all members of the family, not just your teen, so they don't feel singled out.
Parents today tend to be so relational that they find it hard to send a strong message to "not go this way" for fear of losing their relationship. But what most parents don't understand is that kids do want direction, correction and help in moving through the transition to adulthood. Tom Landry once said, "A coach makes people do things they don't want to do so they can get to a place where they do want to be." Parents must do the same for their children.
Step Four: Get Outside Help
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a fool forever." — Chinese Proverb
Perhaps your child's issues are deeper and they'll need professional counseling or medication to get through it. And maybe you'll need counseling to get through it as well. Find a good Christian counselor that specializes in teen behavior, and trust what they recommend. If you're going to pick and choose the counsel you receive, then you'll more than likely just continue to do what you want, and your child will continue to spin out of control. Don't let old beliefs about medicine control your new decisions that have to be made for your child. If your child is depressed or anxious, has ADD, or OCD, can't sleep at night, is bi-polar, or has a true mental condition that demands medication, don't let your outdated boundaries prevent your child from getting help from something that is essential to their well being.
Hospitalization may even be needed if you feel that your child is a danger to himself or herself. Extreme cutting, eating disorders, bizarre behavior, extreme depression, suicidal thoughts, or excessive drug or alcohol abuse are just a few of the symptoms that might warrant hospitalization. Don't hesitate to hospitalize your child just because you don't know what it is. It's better to be safe than sorry.
When Nothing is Working
In the event that your teen is running away or otherwise hitting bottom, and counseling is going nowhere, you may need to place your teen in a therapeutic program outside of your home for a time. This is not the time to spend mulling over where your parenting has gone wrong. It's time for action, when your child could damage his life and possibly make choices with grave consequences. After you've had time to get good counsel (hopefully from quite a few people) and you've had some time to think it through, start to put an intervention plan into action.
A therapeutic program or facility away from home will get them away from their peers, drugs and other influences. It will give the whole family a time of rest and regrouping. It will offer the teen a fresh perspective and a concentrated, focused way of dealing with their issues. Yes, it's a "last ditch" effort, to be initiated when all other options and attempts to help your child have been exhausted, but for some kids, it can be a lifesaver. Over the past 20 years, some 3,000 kids have come to live with us at Heartlight (http://www.heartlightministries.org) for 9-12 months at a time. We daily work with them in a relational way to change their thinking and ambitions to more positive pursuits.
All therapeutic programs are not the same, and there is very little regulation or standards in therapeutic care for youth. So do your homework. Check out each program's professional references. Call the local Better Business Bureau to see if there have been any complaints. Get a list and call the parents who have had their child in the program recently. If the program won't allow you to call parents, then that may be a sign to look elsewhere. And make sure the list they supply is made up of real parents, not just people trained to convince you to enroll in that program.
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Mobile in the disaster zone
The horrifying earthquake/tsunami in Japan on March 11, 2011, has spurred no shortage of mobile-related stories among journalists/bloggers. Of these, two mobile bloggers stand out:
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Ian Homer, director of services – and design guru - at mobile agency Bemoko, fills us in on lesson's learned at last week's Design for Mobile… It seems we missed an "inspirational conference".
• Also see this guide to mobile design with tips from the speakers at this event:
As young people are for the most part surgically attached to their cell phones, it makes sense to engage them via mobile. This makes mobile an attractive proposition for many sectors, but particularly for the charitable sector that had previously struggled to connect with this demographic and for the education sector where the target audience is mostly young people. However, it is only recently that either sector began to wake up to the potential.
Latin America – i.e. South and Central America – and the Caribbean has the hallmarks of a mobile market as exciting, if not in some ways more so, than Asia or Africa. Prompted by the Mobile Marketing Association's Latin America conference last week, mobiThinking has been on a data quest.
All marketers planning to jump on football (soccer)'s mobile bandwagon over the next six months must look at how football clubs and seasoned mobile marketers engage mobile fans. With tips from the experts.
As the football-loving world (that's soccer if you're from the US) winds itself up to a fever pitch in the run-up to the FIFA World Cup in South Africa in June, it's essential to take a look at the role that mobile plays in football. All marketers planning to jump on football's mobile bandwagon over the next six months please take note.
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Since when did biggest mean best? Do you buy a car because it is the biggest? Do you buy a car because it is made by the largest car manufacturer? Or do you buy the most suitable car for your requirements (based on speed, fuel economy, looks, reliability, exclusivity, expense, price, comfort etc).
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Here are 10 fascinating facts about mobile in India, submitted by Rajiv Hiranandani, co-chair of newly founded Indian chapter of the Mobile Marketing Association India and co-founder of mobile entertainment company Mobile2Win.
To find out more about the world's second largest mobile market (after China) and one of the most exciting, also see The insider's guide to mobile Web marketing in India
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What a treasure for cancer patients and caregivers!"
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The number of new cancer diagnoses in Western countries has risen by 60% since 1950. In a survey of industrialized nations (including the USA, Europe and Japan), non-smoking-related cancers account for nearly 80% of this growth.
Prostate cancer has increased by
Breast cancer by 64%, and
Childhood cancer by 35%
Cancer is now expected to strike 1 in 2 men and over 1 in 3 women in their lifetime.
Cancer has now surpassed heart disease for the first time as the top killer of Americans under age 85.
On focusing on fund-raising and early
detection, aren't we placing an ambulance at the bottom of the
Shouldn't we be focusing on prevention and understanding why this alarming rise has occurred, and is still occurring? Where is the War on Prevention that will explain what is causing the breast cancer epidemic? 1 in 8 women will now face a breast cancer diagnosis in their lifetime.
Is the cause of the epidemic really a mystery or are we simply being poisoned by the mountain of toxic chemicals released into our environment each year?
In the years since World War II, an estimated 80,000 new synthetic chemicals have been released into our environment. Few of these chemicals have been tested for long-term safety, despite finding their way into food, water and personal care products. We consume or apply them to our body every day of our life.
Below are some research findings that have received some publicity over the last decade. Surprisingly, these have not been incorporated into any nation-wide prevention campaign. They sank without a trace while the media has focused our attention on the next fund raising campaign and how a cure is just around the corner (please read How Successful are Conventional Cancer Treatments?)
The next section is called GARBAGE IN. It is about some of the numerous poisonous substances that have found their way into our bodies.
The section after that is called GARBAGE OUT. It is about some of the factors that hinder the natural processes of our bodies to detoxify and eliminate these poisonous substances from our bodies.
A Chicago survey of 437 women with breast cancer, found a link between frequency of underarm cosmetics use, shaving and age when diagnosed.
It was found that women who perform underarm shaving more aggressively had a diagnosis of breast cancer 22 years earlier than the non-users of underarm cosmetics.
If you disrupt the skin by shaving, it can open up the door to the contents of whatever you put on your skin afterwards, because just under the skin is the lymphatic system, which is connected to the breast. It is believed the culprits in these antiperspirants are the toxins in aluminum salts such as aluminum chlorohydrate. They don't normally penetrate the skin enough to cause a problem"unless the skin is shaven.
Also, British researchers have found traces of chemicals called parabens in tissue taken from women with breast cancer, the highest concentration being in the quadrant nearest the underarm. Parabens mimic the effects of the hormone oestrogen, which is known to stimulate tumours in two thirds of women with breast cancer.
Parabens are used as preservatives, and on the label they may be listed as methyl paraben, ethyl paraben, propyl paraben, butyl paraben, isobutyl paraben or E216. Even "natural" deodorants may not be paraben-free.
"The breast is like the dust bin of the body these days," states Dr Darbre, a key researcher. "God knows what this cocktail of chemicals does to women."
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Complaints about aspartame represent 80-85% of all food complaints registered with the FDA.
Strong statistical evidence links aspartame to breast cancer. The American Cancer Society figures show that breast cancer cases have doubled since 1981, the year aspartame was approved for use as a food additive.
Dr. John W. Olney, a neuroscientist at Washington University, St. Louis, highlighted that the rates of the extremely deadly forms of brain cancer (e.g., glioblastoma and anaplastic astrocytoma) in the most susceptible populations, went up significantly not long after aspartame's approval.
Researchers are calling for further studies of the link between aspartame and cancer.
The synthetic amino acids that compose aspartame " phenylalanine, aspartic acid, and the methanol in which they are bound, are poisonous. Phenylalanine (50% of aspartame) causes seizures and degrades into DKP, a tumor causing agent. Aspartic acid (40% of aspartame) caused holes in the brains of mice according to Dr. John Olney.
Methanol (wood alcohol, 10% of aspartame) is a cumulative toxin in the body. Since it is "free" methanol", appearing without ethanol (the antidote for methanol toxicity always present in natural food such as fruit juice), the methanol in aspartame is lethal. Methanol destroys the optic nerve and can cause blindness. Fetal tissue cannot tolerate methanol.
In addition, the methanol in aspartame breaks down into formaldehyde (embalming fluid) and formic acid which has the chemical composition of ant venom. Formic acid is used commercially in products such as paint stripper.
Records released under the Freedom of Information Act apparently showed that aspartame caused dozens of mammary tumors in animals tested from 1971 to 1974 by G.D. Searle, the pharmaceutical company, responsible for aspartame.
Searle has been accused of falsifying results of their animal testing when they presented evidence of aspartame safety to the FDA for approval as a "food additive".
If you have breast cancer or a brain tumor, now might be a good time to think about your use of Diet Coke and other products containing aspartame/ NutraSweet.
For more information, visit: http://aseafood.beatcancer.hop.clickbank.net/ A fascinating site that has a passion for outing the truth about aspartame
http://aseafood.beatcancer.hop.clickbank.net/ Governments Continue Suppression and Coverup on Aspartame
http://aseafood.beatcancer.hop.clickbank.net/ Apsartame (Nutra Sweet) Toxicity Info Center
http://aseafood.beatcancer.hop.clickbank.net/ Jennifer Cohen wants to shame the FDA into doing its job. Will they NOW divorce the drug companies, reclassify aspartame as a cumulative toxic poison, and then mandate its removal from over 9,000 items in the human diet?
Teeth have roots with main canals and thousands of side canals and contained in those side canals are miles of nerves. When dentists perform a root canal, they remove the nerve from the main canals. However they do not have access to the microscopic side canals which have dead nerves left behind in those spaces, even with the 'smarter' filling materials and methods in use today.
Anaerobic bacteria, which do not require oxygen to survive, thrive in these side canals to grow and excrete toxicity from digesting necrotic (dead) tissue that leads to chronic infection. If an organ or limb dies in our body, we would remove it, but not so with teeth!
Blood supply and lymphatics that surround those dead teeth drains this toxicity and allows it to spread throughout the body, contributing to the inability to fight cancer as it arises in the body.
This toxicity will invade all organ systems and can lead to a plethora of diseases such as cancers, autoimmune diseases, musculoskeletal diseases, irritable bowel diseases, and depression to name just a few.
Cancer therapies will most likey fail if a patient continues to harbor infection in his/her mouth. The infection that has chronically compromised his/her immune system may come from from root canals as discussed above, but also from infected teeth, cavitations, and severe gum disease. A weakened immune system means a weakened overall ability to eliminate toxicity and to heal as a whole.
Dentist, Frank Jerome states "The idea of keeping a dead, infected organ in the body is only thought to be a good idea by dentists. A root canal-treated tooth always negatively affects your immune system."
For more information, contact a biological dentist from the list provided in Who Can Help Me when I Have Cancer? or read Tooth Truth by Frank J. Jerome D.D.S.
High levels of a chemical blamed for causing infertility in men have been found in some of the world's best-known perfumes and cosmetics.
Chanel No 5, Christian Dior's Poison, Eternity from Calvin Klein and Tresor by Lancome were among 34 toiletries found by a Swedish study to contain di-ethylhexyl phthalate or other phthalates. The European Commission is proposing a ban on the use in cosmetics of two of the most potent forms of phthalates amid fears they cause genital abnormalities affecting up to 4 per cent of male babies.
These genital abnormalities - which can include undescended testicles and malformation of the urinary tract - are blamed for soaring levels of testicular cancer in young men. Cases of the disease have risen tenfold in the past century. About 1,900 British males, some as young as 15, are diagnosed every year. Nine out of 10 cases are cured, but doctors are worried by the trend.
Scientists believe the pthalates could be absorbed into women's bloodstreams through the skin or inhalation.
Numerous studies on rats and mice have shown phthalate exposure causes genital abnormality. The latest research was conducted by a Swedish government-accredited laboratory for Healthcare Without Harm, a US-based organisation representing 300 consumer pressure groups around the world.
Researchers at the Analycen lab analysed 34 leading brands of cosmetics and found more than three-quarters contained phthalates, which help prevent loss of fragrance.
The investigation found other forms of the chemical in Tommy Girl perfume, Impulse Body Spray, Nivea Deo Compact, Sure Ultra deodorant, Shockwaves hair mousse and four hairsprays including Elnett Satin, Pantene Pro-V Extra Hold and Vidal Sassoon.
Per Rosander, who wrote the report, said: "What we know about these chemicals is that they cause damage to the reproductive system. That is why they have been classed by the EU as reproductive toxins."
Richard Sharpe, of the Medical Research Council's Human Reproductive Sciences Unit in Edinburgh, said: "If you wanted to produce a list of environmental causes of the reproductive health problems in boys, phthalates would be pretty near the top of the list."
Actor Julia Sawalha, who played Saffy in Absolutely Fabulous, supports the Women's Environmental Network, a backer of the Swedish research. "Chemicals that pose a risk to fertility do not belong in cosmetics, and manufacturers should be made to list ingredients," she said. [The Sunday Times November 25, 2002.]
It seems an inescapable fact that corporations need to be held accountable for the ingredients in the products they sell, and their effect on people's health. Western governments and ourselves as individuals, need to demand that the War on Prevention is kickstarted.
In the meantime, we need to avoid all the above if we have cancer already, or wish to avoid it in future.
Some simple actions are:
- If you can afford it, buy organic fruit and vegetables. Also buy organic meat if you can. According to the Organic Consumers Association, about two thirds of the cattle produced in the U.S. are treated with several growth hormones allowed by the USDA and the FDA. One of these hormones " 17 beta-estradiol (a synthetic version of the female hormone progesterone) " has been proven to be carcinogenic. In fact, the European Union has banned the importation of any cattle treated with 17 beta- estradiol.
- Use the safe and inexpensive non-toxic home care cleaning methods
described at websites like http://aseafood.beatcancer.hop.clickbank.net/
Note: Do not use isopropyl alcohol because of Dr. Hulda Clark's findings " the site also provides a warning. Dr. Clark is a very successful therapist in the alternative cancer field.
- For safe cosmetic and body care products, follow the advice at Dr. Clark's Body Cleanup Advice at http://aseafood.beatcancer.hop.clickbank.net/
Dr. Clark says, "How can propyl alcohol in shampoo get into your body in significant amounts? The skin is more absorbent than we realize, and time and time again I see cancer victims who have gone off every body product except their favorite shampoo. They harbor propyl alcohol until they make that final sacrifice. It is better, to switch shampoos than to not need any due to radiation and chemotherapy!"
There is a strong link between wearing a bra and breast cancer. Apparently, the restrictive nature of bras inhibits the lymphatic system (an internal network of vessels and nodes that flushes wastes from the body) from doing its job.
The mammary glands are filled with lymphatic vessels that move from the breast, through the axillary lymph nodes under the armpit, over the collar bone, to the thoracic duct. This is how the breast drains toxins and keeps its internal environment clean.
If something impedes the cleansing process, an imbalance occurs and the sex hormone by-products become destructive molecules called free radicals that begin cellular damage (called lipid peroxidation) which leads to breast cancer.
The correlation between bras and breast cancer is 4 times greater than smoking is to lung cancer!
Women who wear tight-fitting bras 24 hours a day are 125 times more likely to have breast cancer than women who do not wear bras at all.
For more information, read Dressed To Kill: The Link between Breast Cancer and Bras by Sydney Ross Singer and Soma Grismaijer.
One study was done of two groups of Fiji women with the same diet, environment and lifestyle, half of whom wore bras and the other half not. Those wearing bras had the same rate of breast cancer as women living in the USA, whereas the braless Fiji women had practicallv no breast cancer. The weight of braless breasts causes the breasts to swing and bob naturally as the person moves, which pumps the lymphatic tissue.
Even lumps in the breast have sometimes vanished after stopping bra use. Some breast lumps and congestions arise from insufficient blood and lymph flow in the breasts and armpits and/or from blocked milk ducts (whether lactating or not), both of which are favored by bra wearing.
Pushup bras are said to be the most restrictive. If you cannot discontinue wearing a bra, consider wearing one as little as possible, and use a bra that allows some breast motion, without cutting tightly under and along the outer edges of the breasts where the milk ducts are located.
Dr David G. Williams in his April 1994 Alternatives newsletter pointed out that, "from tests performed at breast screening clinics, carcinogenic agents are often found in both the breast tissue and the fluids extracted from the nipple." He goes on to add that "high levels of DDT, PCBs, dioxins, and heavy metal[s]" have been found in breast milk.
The good news, he states, is there is a very simple technique that might prevent cancer: nipple stimulation. Dr Williams reports that during nipple stimulation, oxytocin is produced, which stimulates the sac-like glands and small muscles in the breast to contract and help clear the breast of carcinogens. Dr Williams recommends that any woman over the age of 18 should examine her breasts at least monthly, and two or three times a week, she should gently stimulate the circulation to her nipples, three minutes per nipple.
Additionally, a breast massage from China is used for prevention and for existing tumors. Once you've done the nipple massage, rub your breasts in ever increasing circles and finish each stroke rubbing toward the armpit where the lymph glands are located. Do this a minimum of three times a week, a minimum of three minutes per breast.
Also, stimulating the lymph glands (tapping them lightly for one minute) is something that is part of a daily routine for over one million Chinese. Raise your arm, and, using the base of the thumb on the opposite arm (hand), "whap" your armpit repeatedly. Do not do it so hard as to cause any discomfort, just a slight tap is all you need.
Synthetic fragrances may accumulate in out bodies and inhibit our body's immune system. It is the immune system that fights other environmental toxins, and cancer when it arises in our body.
"Synthetic musks that are widely used as fragrances in products such as soaps, cosmetics and detergents may reduce the body's ability to defend against toxic compounds", says a study in the January 2005 issue of Environmental Health Perspectives.
About 8,000 metric tons of synthetic musks are produced worldwide each year. In laboratory research using human tissue, researchers at Stanford University's Hopkins Marine Station found that exposure to synthetic musks inhibited the tissue's natural defenses against toxic compounds.
This effect persisted long after the end of the tissue's exposure to the synthetic musks. These musks concentrate in fats, including breast milk, and remain in human tissue long after exposure. This study's suggestion that they could harm the body's ability to fight other toxicants certainly merits further examination," states Dr. Jim Burkhart, science editor for Environmental Health Perspectives.
Breast Cancer
The nighttime hormone melatonin puts breast cancer cells to sleep. It also slows breast cancer growth by 70%.
David E. Blask, MD, PhD, of Bassett Research Institute in Cooperstown, N.Y., reported these 2004 findings to the American Association for Cancer Research.
Breast cancers get revved up by a kind of dietary fat called linoleic acid. Melatonin interacts with linoleic acid, so he gave melatonin to mice implanted with human breast cancers.
"This breast cancer rev-up mechanism gets revved down by melatonin," Blask said at a news conference. "Nighttime melatonin is a relevant anticancer signal to human breast cancers. Ninety percent of human breast cancers have specific receptors for this signal."
The hormone seeps from a pea-sized gland in the brain when the lights go out at night. It's the reason you get sleepy when it's dark. Blask and colleagues found that melatonin puts cancer cells to sleep, too.
Blask's team exposed lab mice with
human breast cancers to constant light. Tumor growth skyrocketed.
"With constant light, tumors grow seven times faster and soak up incredible amounts of linoleic acid," he says. "During the day, the cancer cells are awake and linoleic acid stimulates their growth. But at night cancer cells go to sleep. When we turn on lights at night for a long time, we suppress melatonin and revert back to the daytime condition."
The finding may explain why nurses
who often work the night shift have high rates of breast and colon
Blask says clinical trials are under way to see whether melatonin supplements can help treat cancer. It may also help in other ways.
"When you take melatonin prior to normal onset of sleep, it will [jump-start the sleep cycle]," he notes.
"Many cancer patients suffer from sleep problems. Melatonin may also improve the quality of life in cancer patients by helping them sleep."
Children's Leukemia
A growing body of evidence linking increased night light to certain types of cancer has led researchers to suspect it could be connected to the steady increase in cases of childhood leukemia.
Scientists presenting research at the First International Scientific Conference on Childhood Leukemia said that light at night (LAN) and working shifts, which disrupts the body's internal clock, have been associated with an raised risk of breast and colorectal cancer.
"We don't know whether abnormal light exposure is generating this higher incidence of childhood leukemia or not, but in view of what we know of other forms of cancer this is not unreasonable," Russell Foster, a molecular neuroscientist at Imperial College London, said in an interview.
Leukemia is the commonest cancer in young children.
Studies have shown that a reduction in melatonin is linked to an increased risk of certain cancers.
"As an antioxidant, in many studies melatonin has been shown to protect DNA from oxidative damage. Once damaged, DNA may mutate and carcinogenesis may occur," stated one researcher.
"Misuse of light may be contributing to a number of different cancers including the increasing incidence of leukemia in children," the researcher added. This includes having a night-light on for children who may be afraid of the dark.
One wonders whether the growth of television and video games over the last 50 years, which means many children stay up later at night, has contributed to the growth in childhood cancer. This night-time light could be suppressing the natural production of melatonin that would otherwise fight the free radicals that damage DNA, leading to cancer.
The rise in childhood cancer has occurred at the same time as the growth of television and video games!
Read Natural Cancer Treatments for information about melatonin and over 350 other cancer-fighting, non-toxic cancer treatments!
In a similar way that massage helps drain toxins from women's breasts, massage also helps drain carcinogens from men's prostate glands, and can be highly beneficial in treating prostatis and BPH (benign prostatic hypertrophy). Studies have shown that women who breastfeed and men who ejaculate frequently, are significantly less at risk for breast and prostate cancer, respectively... because of their actions that drain these two organs.
Dr David Williams in his February 2005 Alternatives Newsletter writes that "Before drugs became the accepted first line of treatment for prostate problems, massage was used successfully, without hesitation, by practically all doctors.... Prostate massage fell out of favor not because it was ineffective, but because there was no money in it for the pharmaceutical companies."
Research underlines the importance of maintaining adequate levels of zinc to prevent the development of prostate cancer. Preventing congestion caused by either obstruction or infrequent drainage, is also important.
Dr Williams advises there is a very helpful device called the Pro-State Massager. ""It can be a lifesaver to someone suffering from prostatis or BPH... It promotes increased circulation to the gland and helps reduce congestion, swelling and inflammation." He recommends the "PS New" Model. It can be ordered from http://aseafood.beatcancer.hop.clickbank.net/ or by phone at 713-680-8840.
Dr Williams states "In the few published studies, it appears prostate massage often lowers PSA levels " which should make it one of the first lines of treatment for prostate cancer, instead of the current surgical procedures that are known to leave between 20 and 70 percent impotent and between 15 and 50 percent incontinent."
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I couldn't believe my eyes when I spotted the giant non-typical standing only 60 yards off the county road in the creek bottom! I quickly devised a plan to intercept the buck. I traveled down the road and entered the drainage hoping the magnum buck would continue his course through the cover. I traversed 100 yards in the open drainage and realized I had better slow down and glass ahead to see if I could spot the buck. To my surprise, I spotted him through the sparse trees and he was headed my way in a hurry. I looked for cover to hide behind, but was unable to find anything more than a small mound of earth, covered in a few small weeds. I hunkered down and watched the buck continue down the path towards me. As he cleared the trees he was less than 15 yards away and if he continued his course he would walk within two yards of me. Panicking, I drew my bow. I was grunting loudly with my mouth as the buck spooked. It did the trick, and the buck stopped 20 yards away, giving me time to release an arrow.
Hunting mule deer in the rut can lead to fast paced action like I just described. The adrenaline charged encounters will leave a bowhunter craving more. There are many plans of attack that can work to successfully harvest mule deer during the rut. Spot and stalking, and intercepting a buck cruising for does, are two methods that have worked well for me when hunting mule deer during the rut.
Mature mule deer become more visible during the rut for several reasons. They obviously are in search of a hot doe, but fall harvest is usually in full swing as well, removing cover on a daily basis. Areas where the deer have been hiding for months in the standing corn and milo fields are opened up by the farmers taking the grain off. The deer feel comfortable in these areas and will usually stay close for a few days before seeking out new hiding places. I have had great success hunting recently harvested fields in areas where I have located a big buck in the pre-season.
On a hunt to the Eastern Colorado plains I was having trouble finding a quality buck to hunt. After the first evening I spoke to the farmers who were finishing up corn harvest. They told of a good buck they had spotted as they finished picking corn that evening. The next morning I checked the areas where I had found deer the previous day with no luck. I was headed back to the farm with my tail tucked, when I remembered the tip from the night before. Like clockwork, the buck was standing in the middle of the recently picked corn field, and was kind enough to bed down as I sized him up. Needless to say the hunt was on!
The number one key to killing a trophy mule deer is finding him. While hunting during the rut increases your odds of finding a mature buck, if possible, it is also important to spend time scouting in the preseason. During the summer and early fall the bachelor groups will not move much, keying in on ripening grain fields for bedding cover and forage. To find a magnum buck it is critical to cover lots of ground. It is important to check areas that historically have good genetics and have held quality bucks in past years, but it is more important to put lots of miles in search of a monster. With wide open spaces and fields full of lush produce, heartland mule deer can literally live anywhere. It takes a lot of luck to be in the right spot at the right time and catch a mature buck on his feet. Spending lots of time behind the wheel and behind your glass will increase your odds.
From day one of the season I focus on areas where I have located potential shooter bucks, but the closer it gets to rut the greater the chance is of finding your target buck. The bucks that would stay bedded in the standing crop fields until dark are now starting to move more during daylight hours, and as I alluded to earlier, crop harvest is rapidly decreasing cover on a daily basis. As peak rut nears, the mature bucks will be on their feet nearly all day and will be covering lots of country. I have witnessed a buck cover more than three miles in a morning in search of companionship.
A typical mule deer hunt in the early season consists of putting a buck to bed and devising a plan to stalk him. During peak rut and into post rut, mature bucks will usually be with one or more does, and several smaller satellite bucks. If you find a shooter buck in this scenario you can usually follow the herd and wait for them to bed. If they bed in a less than ideal location be patient and watch them from a far. During the rut they are likely to stand and move multiple times throughout the day. The target buck will get tired of the smaller bucks being close and will need to show his dominance. The buck will also be scent checking the does. When the deer are up and moving you can get away with more movement than you would think. Being aggressive and closing the distance as the deer move to another bedding location has allowed me to get within range on multiple occasions. The frequent repositioning of rutting mule deer can be a blessing if they bed in a more approachable position, but it can also be a curse if the buck starts pushing does and moves off completely.
My two largest bucks have been taken in the early stages of the rut and have consisted of intercepting cruising bucks. Smaller bucks are content finding a herd of does and camping out with them until one comes into heat, but the dominant, mature bucks will cover lots of ground, hitting multiple herds of does in search of any signs of a doe nearing estrus. When finding a rut crazed buck they will not likely bed at all throughout the day, continuing their search for a hot doe. This allows you to work your way into their path and hopefully get a shot. It takes a lot of luck to correctly guess which path the shooter buck will take. These bucks have a tendency to go any direction and many times they don't do what you would expect. However, half the battle is locating a mature buck, and they are much easier to keep tabs on when they are up moving all day. If you should lose sight of the buck you are hunting don't panic. They have a tendency to resurface in the same areas in search of fresh does. It may take several days to relocate the buck, but with some persistence it can be done.
Rut crazed muley bucks will typically do what you least expect. Don't be afraid to fail. When spotting a buck you want to pursue, it is best to sit back and study his actions before making a plan, but sometimes it is necessary to make a quick decision. Every failed attempt will add to your knowledge bank of what to try next and will help you identify if it is time to sit and wait or strike. Whether you live in mule deer country and are able to scout during the preseason, or are traveling out of state to hunt, chasing mule deer during the rut increases the odds of success, dramatically. Using the methods I have described, or a combination of the two, should help punch your tag this fall.


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CULLODEN, W.Va. (AP) — West Virginia State Police troopers cited 23 drivers during a crackdown on speeding and texting on U.S. 60 in Culloden.
Sgt. Greg Losh tells The Herald-Dispatch (http://bit.ly/1eRjlZh ) that troopers also issued 67 warnings during Tuesday's saturation patrol.
He says four people were found to be driving on suspended licenses. Troopers discovered a small amount of marijuana and heroin during one traffic stop.
Complaints about speeding and texting drivers prompted the saturation patrol.
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