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#moocmooc Day 4 task: participant pedagogy and cMOOCs
The following is included as section 2 in our research-in-progress paper: "Developing a Massive Open Online Course (MOOC) at a College of Education: Narrative of Disruptive Innovation?" (Schrire & Levy, 2012).
2. The Case for MOOCs
2.1 20th Century Pedagogical Models
Over the past few decades, information and communication technologies (ICTs) have been integrated into teaching and learning to support a variety of pedagogies: behaviorist, cognitivist, constructivist, and – as pointed out earlier, connectivist theories, on which MOOCs are based.
Behavioristmodels underlie the "drill and practice" computer programs that dominated CAI from the 1960s through to the beginning of the 1980s. These attempted to improve on paper-based instruction and the value of the programs was usually determined by the extent to which it was sensitive to user difficulties and provided meaningful feedback and remediational sequences to incorrect responses. Since it is relatively easy for a developer or teacher to compile exercises, feed the questions, answers, and feedback into a computer program, these programs continue to flourish in thousands of commercial instructional sites on the Internet. Dede (2008) observes that the underlying pedagogy in many learning management systems (LMSs) closely resembles CAI. Their obvious disadvantage is that they are usually based on a paradigm of learning that encourages "reaching the correct answer" rather than on the generation of questions. It is easy to see why this approach is not the one that will develop the knowledge and skills of the movers and shakers in today's or tomorrow's knowledge economy.
Cognitivisttheories, which emphasize the mental models actively created by the learner in his/her interaction with the environment, are still based on the premise that a knowledge object can be well defined and that a task has a few possible correct ways of being approached. They do not provide answers regarding the learning of ill-defined content, which is what is increasingly presenting itself to the 21st century learner.
Constructivist theories better explain learning occurring in vague contexts. Constructivism is based on a world view that knowledge is necessarily a product of our own cognitive acts, and that learners construct understandings through their experiences (Confrey, 1995). In such a view, learning means that students themselves are constructing and reorganizing their own conceptual frameworks, in a "gradual process during which initial conceptual structures based on … interpretations of everyday experience are continuously enriched and restructured" (Vosniadou & Ioannides, 1998, p. 1213). To the view of thinking and learning as an individual process of restructuring, Sfard (2008) adds the communicative facet, coining the term 'Commognition': "…thinking is an individualized form of interpersonal communication… whatever one creates is a product of collective doing. Even when sitting alone at her desk and deeply immersed in thoughts, a person is engaged in a conversation with others" (p. XIX). According to constructivism, it is the teacher's responsibility to expose the learners to new conceptions and to different ideas offered by others, in addition to her or his responsibility for offering generalizations and formal terminology. However, even pedagogies which have as their central focus the knowledge that is constructed by people communicating or working together on given tasks (Schrire, 2004), are not sufficient to explain the processes whereby people will learn and act in the knowledge society of the 21st century; nor can they provide a basis for instructional design that is both broad and effective in a networked world. Moreover, both technological and social networks thin (Siemens, 2010) and might even remove classroom walls, thus inevitably subverting the classroom-based roles of the teacher as these have been "taken-as-shared" (Cobb, Yackel & Wood, 1992) in Behaviorism, Cognitivism and Constructivism alike.
2.2 21st Century Pedagogical Models
Aiming to consider the broad and wide effects of the network society on learning and teaching, George Siemens has developed Connectivism as a learning theory for the digital age (Siemens, 2005). Connectivism is based on the idea that knowledge is distributed across a network of connections, and therefore that learning consists of the ability to construct and traverse those networks (Downes, 2007). Connective knowledge is the knowledge that results from connections among properties of different entities. As a theory developed in an age of abundant information and connections, connectivism assumes that the learner's role is not to memorize or even understand everything, but to have the capacity to find and apply knowledge when and where it is needed (Anderson & Dron, 2011). In line with Bruns's (2008) concept of 'produsage', connectivist learning is also based as much upon production as consumption of content, while the role of the teacher is both a novel role – to enable collaborations with and among the learners in order to create and re-create content, and a constructivist role – to design interactions in which learners make connections with existing and new knowledge resources. Unlike earlier pedagogies, the teacher is not solely responsible for defining, generating, or assigning content.
As new technology enables – and even forces – the 21st century learner to learn in a very different way and at a very different pace from any other time in history, the need arises for adopting new learning structures, networks, and tools. These structures should fit complex learning of distributed knowledge – the type of learning that is best explained by Connectivism. A MOOC is one such learning structure. MOOCs were described in our 2011 paper as "a conglomerate consisting of various layers: weekly live sessions…; recordings of all these sessions; a complexity of discussion forums within the course Moodle; the course Wiki and the course Blog; and the unique course aggregator named the Daily" (Levy & Schrire, 2011, p. 6). Such description indeed reflects networks, both of human participants and of information chunks. MOOCs of that type can therefore be labeled "Connectivist MOOCs" and are further detailed in the next section.
2.3 Connectivist MOOCs (c-MOOCs)
The first MOOC took place in 2008 and was facilitated by Siemens and Downes, who have developed the theory of Connectivism. The challenge in a connectivist MOOC is for each learner to construct a personal learning environment (PLE), or a personal learning network (PLN), by eliciting what is personally meaningful from the network of information and interactions. The twin concepts of the PLE and PLN have emerged during the last five years as alternatives to more traditional environments such as the learning management system (LMS) and institutionally-based courses, and a developing body of research has been produced around these alternative learning structures. One of the first MOOCs, the PLENK2010 ten-week-long open online course (Siemens, Downes Cormier, & Kop, 2010) focused on these alternatives, attracting a very large number of participants from all over the world. This MOOC was not conducted in a single place or environment, but was rather distributed across the web. The learning in this unusual course resulted from the activities each participant chose to undertake, and was therefore different for each person. An overwhelming collection of ideas, stories, questions, and representations, were expressed using a large variety of tools and technologies, and widely distributed across the web. Managing all of this was challenging; however, as it turns out, the course participants had not only voluntarily jumped into this ocean of complexity, but many of them contributed to making the learning network even more complex, more connected, and more rewarding (Levy, 2011; לוי, 2012).
Learning in a Connectivist MOOC is "…highly social. The learning comes from content presented by a lecturer, and then dialog via social media, where the contributions of the participants are shared" (Quinn, 2012). The domain MOOC.ca (maintained by Stephen Downes) refers to MOOC's connectivist origins and gives a partial list of those MOOCs which are considered as based on the connectivist model.
The type of learning that has been found to occur in those MOOCs appears to be based on processes that educators wish to encourage in their students in order to prepare them for life and work in the 21st century. This is an age of competition on a global level, information glut, and rapid technological change, where the individual – just like the organization – has to learn to construct and restructure his/her knowledge and constantly reinvent him/herself. Anderson (2008), referring to the knowledge society, pinpoints two major forces shaping the knowledge society: "greater intercultural interaction, enabled by global electronic networks, and an economic system in which knowledge functions as a commodity" (p. 7). In the face of such a "given," the global citizen needs to learn how to construct knowledge and develop adaptability, the ability to work in teams, and skills relating to the retrieval, organization, and critical evaluation of information (Mioduser, Nachmias, & Forkush-Baruch, 2008). There is no doubt that such a change in conceptualizing learning and teaching should be considered in colleges of teacher education; however, there is also no doubt that resistance will present itself, as was indeed the case in our own initiative.
2.4 Other types of MOOCs (x-MOOCs)
Interestingly, since submitting our previous paper in August 2011, and while investigating our college of education's organizational and managerial culture and structure in order to determine where and with whom we could develop and pilot a MOOC, the "language of MOOCs" (Watters, 2012) has taken an unexpected turn. Right until the fall of 2011, the term "MOOC" was not used much by educational technology scholars and was not acknowledged at all in the mainstream public discourse. Within the limited community of educators and educational researchers who did mention the term "MOOC", it unequivocally denoted a practical application of connectivism, as has been discussed in sections 2.2 and 2.3.
The turning point seems to be with the AI (Artificial Intelligence) MOOC, an experimental open online course offered in the fall semester of 2011 by two well-known computer scientists from Stanford. The first wide publication of this course in the New York Times (August 15, 2011) didn't even mention the term "MOOC", but the title – "virtual and artificial, but 58,000 want course" (Markof, 2011) – ignited a new wave of educational initiatives aiming to reach massive audiences of (mainly college-level and up) participants. The first to couple the Stanford AI course with the term MOOC was Stephen Downes himself, in his OLDaily newsletter (August 17, 2011). With sarcasm, but - in retrospect - also as a self-fulfilling prophecy, Downes (2011) writes: "The Stanford 'open' AI course has attracted some 58,000 students and an article in the New York Times. So now the MOOC will be deemed to have been officially 'invented' by Peter Norvig and Sebastian Thrun. Credit? No, not a chance."
The experimental AI course ran for 10 weeks. Out of more than 60,000 preregistered participants from around the globe in September, about 1500 completed the course in December 2011. Sebastian Thrun himself left Stanford in January 2012 to form the new open online learning venture Udacity, commenting that after reaching out to such mass numbers of students he could not go back to teach in a traditional class. In a blog post from February 29, 2012, Quinn first distinguished between two types of MOOCs: the Stanford model and the Connectivist model. The goal of both types, writes Quinn, is to enable a free and "high quality learning experience to anyone with sufficient technical ability and access to the Internet", but as opposed to the social nature of the connectivist model, in the Stanford model "the experience is,effectively, solo" (Quinn, 2012).
During the spring of 2012 the wave turned into a Tsunami. Numerous news articles, blog posts, media interviews, and social networks posts flooded the Internet with new MOOC announcements, calls for participation, and critiques. Within a few weeks, MIT announced MITx; a consortium of Ivy League universities including Stanford and Penn State established Coursera; and Harvard University joined forces with MIT to create EDx – to name only a few. In March, Hill (2012) wrote that "there are really two variations of MOOCs with quite different approaches – witness the Stanford and MITx version vs. the rhizomatic version"[2]. In an internet interview on April 23th, Downes was asked "Did you expect to see MOOCs explode in popularity so quickly?" (Downes, 2012-a). The most press cover, however, has been based on the Stanford model of MOOCs. In May, Martin Weller – a professor at the Open University of the UK – wrote in his Ed-Techie blog: "with the Stanford AI course, then the announcement of Udacity, EdX, coursera, and Curtis Bonk's course, it seems that barely a week has gone by without some major new announcement" (Weller, 2012). Audrey Watters, an educational technology blogger who writes for "Inside Higher Education", added in her Hack Education blog in June: "when I write about MOOCs (and I admit, I do write about MOOCs a lot lately), I feel the need to attach a bunch of adjectives to clarify what I mean by the term." She also calls for doing "a better job distinguishing connectivist MOOCs from the Stanford model" (Watters, 2012).
While the "O" that stands for "open" is thought to be the dominant letter in the original connectivist branch of MOOCs, "M" seems to be the dominant letter in the Stanford branch. In a recent email sent to all those who once pre-registered to one of Prof. Thrun MOOCs, he wrote: "I am writing you to ask a personal favor. I am trying to break the student record for the largest online class ever taught with my new class "Intro to Statistics", which will begin June 25th. Sign up, forward this e-mail to your friends and family and let's set a new record!" (email communication received June 17, 2012).
A month later, Downes (2012-b) referred to the Tsunami in his OLDaily newsletter, with a citation from Inside Higher Education: "So this has been all over the news today - "A dozen more universities have signed partnerships with Coursera, a company that provides hosting services for massively open online courses (MOOCs)." The attached map details these institutions all over the United States.
In the same post, Downes (2012-b) also proposed a new terminology: x-MOOCs (like Coursera) providing open online content, practice and activities in the domain in question; and c-MOOCs – connectivist MOOCs – providing not only open online content in a domain but also immersion into a community of practitioners associated with that domain. Whether the two models will eventually merge, how the MOOC phenomena will develop, and how such innovations influence higher education are yet open questions.
2.5 Summary: The case for Connectivist MOOCs in teacher education
Our work, started prior to the current public interest in the MOOC phenomena, is, without any doubt, based on the Connectivist vision of the c-MOOC. We see this model as aiming to bring about change and innovation on a number of levels:
Pedagogical – with a redefinition of what is meant by "learning", "teaching", and "assessment". The redefinition of pedagogy will affect learners and teachers alike.
Content – once a traditional course (even a traditional online course) becomes a MOOC, it demands deep-level revision of content. In addition, as the content is distributed and takes on a "life" of its own, independent of its point of origin, a MOOC necessarily involves the erosion of traditional boundaries regarding content creation and development.
Technological – MOOCs are founded on technologies that encourage interaction between people, people and content, and people and interfaces. However, in addition to Web 2.0 learning tools that are already accepted in the "mainstream," additional tools are required, such as aggregators and RSS feeds that scan the MOOC for significant content that can be brought to the participants. The technological component becomes additionally complex when the MOOC is planned in both an English-language and Hebrew-language environment, as in the reported case.
Organizational and cultural – the MOOC instructors have to collaborate in ways that they have probably not before experienced and restructure their courses; the MOOC learning and teaching community envisaged for the educational establishment forming the context for the present case would require acceptance at top management and middle management levels, as well as intensive technological support from the ICT academic team and systems management department.
It is against this background that a c-MOOC is seen as representing suitable preparation for developing, not only specific content knowledge, but also the 21st century literacies noted above. The original plan proposed in the summer of 2011 for our college of education arose from the conviction that it would provide a model for learning at a time when traditional school learning is widening the rift between learners' experiences in and of the world and their experiences in formal school settings. What has changed in this interim is, first, the rise of the MOOC phenomena, as has been discussed in the previous sections; and, second, our understanding of the complex factors involved within an organization "considering" a c-MOOC, because of the broader implications it has for the meaning of education. We elaborate on the latter in the full paper from which this section has been taken.
[1] Others are also using the terms c-MOOCs, rhizomatic MOOCs, and participatory MOOCs to define MOOCs based on connectivist theory.
[2] "Rhizomatic learning" is highlighted in the conference presentation of Dalit Levy, slide 16 - http://www.slideshare.net/damom7/the-case-of-a-massive-online-open-course-mooc-at-a-college-of-education .
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ERS Tandem interferogram of Zurich city area and surroundings
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This is an interferogram of the city of Zurich and its immediate surroundings. It is a Intensity- Hue display. The intensity is taken from the magnitude of the complex interferogram, in the Hue the fringes are shown (magenta-cyan-yellow cycles). In this scene earth flattening of the interferogram has been correctly performed and one can clearly see that the fringes follow closely the local topography (e.g. flat region around the airport and hills on either side of the lake Low coherence is indicated by absence of fringes. These areas are typically water surfaces, woods, areas with high local incidence angles and layover regions; but also areas of low intensity such as linear dark features like the runways of the airport. (Data processed by RSL, University of Zurich)
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Chapter I
Bella pov
My Life Was Perfect, I had a family, wealth, popularity, friend's and a boyfriend. I lived in the small town, of Forks Washington
most people didn't know about this place, but only the most wealthiest families, let their children, attend Forks high private school,
we lived in a large mansion that was built by one of my mother's close friends, Esme Cullen, she lived in the neighborhood with her husband ,Carlisle Cullen, he was the best doctor in the U.S ,they were both very beautiful people ,pale skin and golden eye, they must have contacts on or something
(PS: Esme and Carlisle are vampires, Bella and her family doesn't know"
My father, Charlie, was the CEO of "Swan industries", the most powerful company in the world, my father had a mansion back in California Malibu
I loved it, there because off all the sun and cute boys, but we moved here to escape the press and rumors, it worked out just fine
soon as I came to Forks high, I was popular ,the school quarter back "Mike newton" a cute baby faced blue eyed boy asked me to be his girlfriend, at first I was hesitant ,but said yes anyways I wanted to fit in with the crowd…..,well I think that's what I wanted
Suddenly there was an annoying sound that was starting to piss me off
Beep, beep, beep, I turned on my side to glance at the clock, it was 6:00 in the morning, time to get up and get ready for school
I got out of my worm, king sized bed then stretched with a smile on my face, the sun was shining through the window, it was one of the rare day that forks had sunny weather, because it was usually none stop rain and clouds
How could my life get any better I thought to myself then stood up
I walked over to my dresser and found that I had cloths already arranged for my day; it must have been from Alice
Alice Mary Brandon was my Best friend since birth, she was wealthy to, just like me, and she dressed me because I didn't have a good sense of style
After taking a shower, I got dressed in the huge closet that was connected to my bathroom, which maids were currently in my room cleaning up
I didn't like having maids, but they insisted because they were paid to, it gave me a guilty feeling
As I walked down the stairs I spotted some of the security that worked here, they nodded their heads as I passed by, sometimes I hated being fallowed around
I ate breakfast then quickly got into the car, I didn't drive, had my own driver again, I wish that I could be like a normal girl and just drive to school alone
A black car fallowed me from behind and another in front, the ride to school was boring
I just stared out the window, lately I've been having these feeling, I felt as if something good is going to happen , but it's going to be negative as well, as we drove, I noticed the homeless on the streets, I frowned, I always felt guilty, I lived in a nice house, while they were in the streets
I shuddered, I could never imagine living on the streets, I wouldn't know what to do
As we got to the school, I watched as Alice got out of her car and waited for me to get out
We walked into the school together, and I spotted Mike Newton……my boyfriend
I didn't really know if I liked Mike, but I wanted to fit in, Alice had warned me about Mike's history with girls
"Hey there Baby" I heard Mike say, my eyes caught his blue eyes and I smiled
He put his arm around my waist, again something felt Rong, and there was no spark
I kept a fake smile on my face, but Alice could tell
"Are you coming to the party tonight Bella" Mike asked ten kissed my neck
At that instant, I felt uncomfterble and pushed him away, Mike frowned, he knew that I wasn't the at type of girl
"I don't know Mike" I said then walked off to class, with a bad feeling in my stomach
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18 January 2013 Stuff We Like
Local Natives - Hummingbird (Deluxe Edition)
My last blog was the first "Stuff We Like" of 2013. 2012 was feeling really "it's so over", and I was lamenting the fact that there wasn't any 2013 shit to write about yet. That certainly isn't the case this week. So many pre-orders finally came pouring in. I'm fucking surrounded by boxes. Toro Y Moi, The Walkmen exclusive, A$AP Rocky, Yo La Tengo, and now Local Natives. Confession: I have never seen Local Natives live. Yes, I am embarrassed by this. Joe reminds me almost every day how fucking awesome it was that time he saw them in Houston in a tiny ass venue with 50 people. That's because Joe can be a real douche sometimes. Anyway, I was really hoping to see them at CMJ last Fall, just to get a taste of the new album, but I would have had to sacrifice seeing so much other good stuff to wait in that mile long queue. I honestly still haven't heard anything except the Breakers 7", but I'm really looking forward to remedying that tonight when I take home my copy. I know, it's Friday night, but I need that kind of night. Last night was Insound laser tag night and team CDeeez Nuts got murdered by the team of annex interns. Interns are fast and sneaky as hell, especially Shauna, Scott, and The Wrangler. Fuck you guys, I need a nap.
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a rather incomplete and confusing recipe. It only speaks of a "game plan", and does not give the recipe. No mention of ingredients or quantities. You might want to review this posting.
Thai Chicken Supper
argon688 Posted: 08/16/11
kandisinmi Posted: 08/16/11
To argon688: This page is only the menu/planning page. If you click on the recipe link, which is below the picture, it will take you to the actual recipe; or here is the url: http://www.myrecipes.com/recipe/thai-style-stir-fried-chicken-10000000833360/ Sorry, I haven't made the recipe yet, so my (required) rating is just an estimate, but it sounds very good-although, I think that I would add more sprouts, and mix them into the hot ingredients a minute or so before serving.
Johny1988 Posted: 11/15/11Sydney, AL
Cindos Posted: 06/19/12
Yum! This was really good, and I didn't even follow the recipe. It is very forgiving. I used cider vinegar instead of rice vinegar, white sugar instead of brown, frozen onion and bell pepper mix instead of the vegs recommended in the recipe, and no cilantro or bean sprouts and it was still really, really good. From experience with other Thai-type recipes, I would not recommend leaving out the curry paste (though I think green would probably work similarly to red paste), coconut milk (though you could use full fat), or fish sauce. This one's a keeper!


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July 12, 2001, 11:14 a.m. CST
Andre Braugher
by Guerilla_Films
nice to see him nominated for a show that was canceleld.
July 12, 2001, 11:16 a.m. CST
Not Road Rules...that show is sooooo gay.
by jspot
Anything else but that...and i wonder wholl win that category...man i hate road rules.
July 12, 2001, 11:18 a.m. CST
I'm first! (maybe)
by turboposterdude
July 12, 2001, 11:19 a.m. CST
Friends? Schwimmer? What the fuck?
by jspot
Cmon Friends is a great show. Give it alittle credit...and maybe a nod for Courteney Cox one of these years
July 12, 2001, 11:26 a.m. CST
if there's one thing you can count on with the emmy's, it's that
by johnnysunshine
I tuned in for the live broadcast this morning with the false hope that maybe, just maybe, Buffy would finally get at least some recognition from the science fiction hating emmy voters. I can't say I was surprised though, when the nominees for best dramatic series were....THE EXACT SAME NOMINEES AS LAST YEAR. Obviously the emmy voters would never nominate a series like Farscape, no matter how deserving, but I thought maybe Buffy's critical acclaim over the last five years and the criticism the awards have drawn for snubbing it would mean that it would finally be given a chance. No such luck as the voters decided to go with yet more shows about doctors and lawyers, etc. At the very least I thought Joss Whedon would get a writing credit for the body, but the catregory for best writing for a dramatic series is now a virtual lock for Sopranos whcih garnered a ridiculous four out of the five nominations. Obviously that series is deserving of a nomination in the category, but not all of them. Oh well, people who create original and/or science fiction shows obviously aren't in it to get an emmy nod. If they were, they would make a show about a team of lawyers balancing their personal lives withtheir hectic life in court....Yeah, that would be a huge success.
July 12, 2001, 11:27 a.m. CST
Think The West Wing will win any acting awards?
by vroom socko
Seven nominations? Jesus!
July 12, 2001, 11:36 a.m. CST
No Gillian Anderson?
by Jack Burton
True, The X-Files was sort of all over the place quality wise, but Anderson did a great job of showing the conflict and dispair that was always under Scully's service. Her breakdown when Mulder is found dead and the ship takes off with Jeremiah was one of the most powerful moments in a series known for powerful moments.
July 12, 2001, 11:37 a.m. CST
Will and Grace? What the fuck?
by Cafeman
Will and Grace is the only show in Tv history that I wished would be banned. I have nothing against gay characters, but Jesus Christ, this show is just too much.
July 12, 2001, 11:39 a.m. CST
I'm with you, johnnysunshine
by Rosie_Cotton
I was outraged that Buffy got no nominations, especially with such an incredible season. Personally I don't think there was anything on TV this year that rivaled 'The Body'. I'm a Soprano fan, but this season was a bit flat and monotonous to me. Four nominations in one category is just ridiculous.
July 12, 2001, 11:41 a.m. CST
by Cassius the Evil
At least the Daily Show got a couple of nods. Yay. Too bad for Buffy, I guess...
July 12, 2001, 11:47 a.m. CST
Dominic Chianese (sp?)
by CTM1975
All right, Uncle Junior! His is my favorite character on The Sopranos, and I sure hope he wins. To me, his role as aging mobster was great this season, especially his interaction with Bobby "Baccala." The house arrest is over, now it's time for June to get back out there and start earning and crackin' skulls. My favorite Junior quote was at one of the funerals when someone commented on how his generation was dying off, partly due to eating all that red meat. "Nobody told us anything til the eighties!"
July 12, 2001, 11:47 a.m. CST
Outstanding Comedy Series?? I don't think so.
by SilentBob X
I've seen all 5 of these so-called 'comedy' series and none of them are funny. Typical how Hollywood awards unworthy shows like these and will never award good shows with praise. I mean, I've laughed harder at a test pattern than Will and Grace. You want comedy? Try watching Family Guy, South Park, Titus, or Malcolm in the Middle. Now, THAT'S comedy. Snootchie Bootchies.
July 12, 2001, 12:03 p.m. CST
Where the Hell is Joe Pantoliano!?!?
by CTM1975
While I love some Uncle Junior, it just occurred to me: neither he nor Michael Imperioli deserve the best supporting actor emmy, Joe Pantoliano as Ralph Cifaretto does!!! From his constant quoting of "Gladiator" to his insidious bedding of Rosalie Aprile to the way he dispatched his "whoore" Ralphie was clearly the highlight of this season. This is a major oversight.
July 12, 2001, 12:06 p.m. CST
emmy's suck....
by primortal!
It is always the 4 major networks that get looked at (abc, cbs, fox and nbc). NO Buffy (wb), angle (wb), invisible man (scifi), farscape (scifi). All these awards really suck, they are fixed and should be banned.
July 12, 2001, 12:10 p.m. CST
No Gillian Anderson? part II
by Ncontrol
I, too, am shocked that Anderson didn't get a nomination. She had some great scenes in the last season. She made me cry one time and I never cry... Just doesn't seems right...
July 12, 2001, 12:11 p.m. CST
No Buffy :( but "Freaks and Geeks" lives...
by icebird_
What does "Buffy" have to do to get a nomination? You can't tell me there were five better episodes of drama than "The Body" last season. Total Nominations: UPN: 10 WB: 0 On the other hand, hidden among the endless procession of the Usual Suspects (get nominated once, you're in for the next five years), was a writing nomination for the "Freak & Geeks" episode "Discos & Dragons". Bet they'll never give a posthumous award to a show that was cancelled a year ago (but it's still better than 90% of the stuff on television). Chris
July 12, 2001, 12:11 p.m. CST
Not Interested
by A Big Potato
Is anyone else not at all interested in watching the Emmy's this year after seeing those nominees? Not to say that they're all not good shows... (even though some of them are obviously on the downard slope)... but its just seems like an absolute retread of last year's program. And as someone who is a casual watcher of Sopranos and goes bowling instead of watching West Wing, I have absolutely no interest. And also... Ellen Degeneras is hosting the show!!! Yep, Ellen Degeneras!! Next to Margaret Cho and Paula Poundstone, (pre-child abuse days), Degeneras has to be the least funny female comic out there! And to top it all off... NOT ONE SINGLE NOMINATION FOR BUFFY!!! NOT EVEN IN MAKE UP OR SOMETHING!!!!! ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 12, 2001, 12:14 p.m. CST
Whedon... Emmy... nah, doesn't fit in the same sentence (unless
by Antifanboy
Come on. Buffy's the Queen of Pop TV. But it's simplistic and trashy. The writing's the last thing that would be winning awards. Any awards. It would be a bad day when you get a show winning an Emmy that consists of bad jokes and one liners... and nothing else. There's no soul to the writing in Buffy. It's all so very superficial. Genre's got nothing to do with it. The X Files had some great writing in its day.
July 12, 2001, 12:22 p.m. CST
When was the last time anyone considered the Emmy's to be an ind
by otis von zipper
I mean the winners may from time to time deserve recognition, but c'mon, it's an industry popularity contest. The only pleasant surprise was the appearance of Holly Hunter for her portrayal of Billie Jean King, but a damn shame her co-star Ron Silver didn't get the nod too.
July 12, 2001, 12:24 p.m. CST
"Ed"? Anyone?
by Rufus_T_Firefly
Nominated for anything? Ah, I wish I even cared abouth these cockamammie awards, anyway. By the way, "Will and Grace" is the most overrated show in television history. Cutting edge, my ass.
July 12, 2001, 12:31 p.m. CST
Junkyard Wars
by fritzjames
This show kicks ass!
July 12, 2001, 12:32 p.m. CST
to all the multi nod bashers
by theyak
get a real life people... so your favorite scifi show didnt get anything, big whoop... and I am personally very pleased that the sopranos did so well. good talent = good episodes = nominations. it's an equation type thing see? yet, on the other hand, poor talent = crap episodes = whiny geek fans. you get your equation too...
July 12, 2001, 12:38 p.m. CST
No BUFFY & ANGEL??????!!
by Barrymore
Robbed, robbed, robbed!!!! Stargate, Voyager, Dark Angel, and ROAD RULES get nominations, but NONE for BUFFY and ANGEL???? The Emmy voters are watching the WRONG SHOWS!!!!
July 12, 2001, 12:38 p.m. CST
The Emmy nominations are such a joke, I'm amazed they don't come
by TrollPrincess
But then again, that's not nothing new. Correct me if I'm wrong, but outside of the film nods, isn't this basically the same list as LAST year? Yawn. I usually like watching awards shows, but the Emmys mean about as much to me as a bothersome head cold. *sigh* And here I was hoping I'd get to see James Marsters in a tux. I guess I have to settle for Hollywood Squares this week.
July 12, 2001, 12:44 p.m. CST
You people make me sick....
by SadPanda
This is probably the best bunch of Emmy nominations in years. I mean, sure, there's the usual blasphemy of nominating shows like Frasier and Third Rock from the Sun, but look what they did nominate- The Daily Show, Everybody Loves Raymond, Malcolm in the Middle(Which reminds me, silentbob x- you are an idiot- Malcolm in the Middle was nominated for best actor, actress, and freaking best comedy series as well as directing and writing awards), and Steve Buscemi for the episode of The Sopranos. And best of all- The Late Show with David Letterman was nominated for best variety series and not the Tonight Show with the unfunny big-chinned moron Jay Leno. And now why you people make me sick- Hate to make you people actually face some realiy but... ahem... BUFFY SUCKS!!!! THE FACT THAT IT IS ON THE WB SHOULD BE ENOUGH! I TRIED TO STOMACH HALF AN EPISODE BUT SIMPLY COULD NOT MANAGE! IF IT WAS GOOD IT WOULDN'T BE ON THE WB. And don't get on your fucking soapbox about Joe Pantoliano. He nearly ruined the sopranos. I was just as excited as anyone when I heard he was going to be on the Sopranos. He is one of the best bad guy actors in the world. He was great as the bad guy in movies like The Matrix(duh), Risky Business, and, of course, that classic film- The Goonies. But all he was on The Sopranos was Richie Aprille Lite. He was the diet-Richie, the Quasi-Richie. He wasn't anything great. If anything a fuss should be made for not nominating Paulie Walnuts. In the words of the great George Carlin- You are all diseased. Love, peace, and chicken grease, SadPanda
July 12, 2001, 1:08 p.m. CST
I'm with ya, Fritz!
by Z-Man
Junkyard Wars has got to take that category!
July 12, 2001, 1:46 p.m. CST
"Ed" is the best show on tv.
by Grue72
Ed is just the best. It has the best writing and comedic timing of any show I've seen in years. I hate to see it go unnoticed at the Emmys, but I predict it will be recognized soon. While I'm here I'm sick of shows thinking they're so important like NYPD Blue and The West Wing. Damn these shows are pretentious. Quit trying to convince me that you're a quality show for a discriminating audience and just entertain me. Nobody's curing cancer here. And again, while I'm here... how does a show like Becker stay on the air while Norm gets cancelled?
July 12, 2001, 1:52 p.m. CST
BOSTON PUBLIC Overlooked
by RightWing Dude
I know that SOME individuals who frequent this site do not think very highly of BP but I am hooked on it (& I usually do not watch much television because I am very discriminatory in regards to what I watch). Even TV GUIDE recommended that the man who plays Vice-Principal Guber should be given an emmy nomination. I suppose that BP just is not politically correct enough for the Hollywood Elite (unlike WILL & GRACE & THE LEFT WING-the shows which are ALWAYS nominated)!
July 12, 2001, 1:56 p.m. CST
The Real Outstanding Comedy Series
by Xocxoc
Emmy's blew it again, The nominees for Oustanding Comedy Series should have been (any five of the six): Angel, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Ed, Futurama, Gilmore Girls, West Wing All of which were FAR funnier than any of the nominated "sitcoms" this year. Am I the only one that thinks Will & Grace is a horrible godawful show, that if it weren't for its PC politics, would have been cancelled in three episodes? -- TV Alert! Tonights episode of Gilmore Girls on WB is the funniest episode of ANY TV series this year
July 12, 2001, 1:57 p.m. CST
by Dwellah812
The only time to watch TV this year was Sundays at 8. The Simpsons, Malcolm, then the Sopranos. I know it isnt as good as it used to be but The Simpsons is way better tha Will and grace and all that other shiot. This is a friggin crime as usual. TV sucks
July 12, 2001, 1:58 p.m. CST
Gillian Anderson Part III
by Z0D
Gillian deserves to be in the top group of leading actresses in all of television. Her acting is very, very, very, good. I like how she has played Scully ever since the beginning. In the first episode ever, she portrayed herself as a newbie to the FBI, and boy, did it ever show. She grew with the character over the years, becomming a better actress more and more. Unfortunately, actors who are in a role for at least 5 or more years are type cast. They have problems getting other roles in shows outside their previous show's realm, or even getting nominated for some award because their role is "too old" for today's tv. I guess that's how it works: newer shows have more chance at getting more awards. But I still love the perky red head anyway.
July 12, 2001, 2:05 p.m. CST
Everybody Loves Raymond? Bulls**t!!!
by Paul T. Ryan
How the fuck does that repellent, repetitive and just plain unfunny Everybody Loves Raymond get a) ratings, b) emmy nods? and c) another two years on the air? The "humor" is along the lines of the worst eighties sitcoms, (ie: "You're an idiot!"-cue laugh track. "Shut up moron"-cue laugh track. Ha friggin' ha.) the characters are completely unlikeable, the cast has all the charisma of burnt roadkill, and the storylines are soley of the sitcom template variety. But then I'm writing from a country where an obnoxious, would-be slutty fat chick is about to win Big Brother, so I'll just shut my mouth now....
July 12, 2001, 2:11 p.m. CST
"The Body"
by Tar Heel
Does the Writer's Guild hand out awards for episodic TV? If so then Buffy's "Body" episode should receive some deserved awards for being the most moving hour of drama on TV last season. Same goes for the Director's Guild. I'd say the same about SAG but I don't think they can look past the age of the actors.
July 12, 2001, 2:36 p.m. CST
Anthony Heald got robbed!
by Hardyboy
He deserved a nomination AT LEAST for Best Supporting Actor--though to my mind he's the lead actor of Boston Public. Gawd, he gave a great, multilayered performance in every episode of BP. . .what more do the Emmy voters want? And I hope that Andre Braugher's nomination was some small consolation for the axing of the excellent Gideon's Crossing.
July 12, 2001, 2:38 p.m. CST
by btvsfan
Who in the *&^%$#@! are the complete morons that vote for Emmy nominations? Do they even watch TV? Do they just submit the same tired old list year after year with only revisions to the miniseries category to make it look new? Buffy the Vampire Slayer is the best show that the boob tube has offered in years and yet it continually gets snubbed. What is up with that? The entire cast of Buffy should be named in Emmy nominations. This show has such heart and some punchlines that hit you days after you watch it. ATTENTION ALL EMMY VOTERS! BUY A NEW REMOTE CONTROL BECAUSE YOU ARE MISSING THE BEST DAMN SHOW ON TV!
July 12, 2001, 2:45 p.m. CST
BUFFY gets screwed over once again, best show on tv!
by ryan mecum
July 12, 2001, 2:46 p.m. CST
Ok here's why the noms suck
by Tenguman
The nominations suck because everyone who is supposed to watch the submitted tapes (and thusly vote for the respective show) DON'T. They watch the tapes from the shows that they normally watch, or just give all their tapes away to their friends and family to vote on. We need a more efficient way of voting for these. Make the voting members go to a polling place where they are forced to show their member IDs, then watch each episode, and vote right afterwards. But of course that would take to long and these people have busy lives (but apparantly have time to watch Everybody Loves Raymond). Plus most of these people are stuffy old folks who wouldn't give a show like Buffy the time of day. Try it, go up to some old person (like your grandparents or uncle or someone) and ask them to watch an episode of Buffy. They probably won't. Or would watch it half heartedly. But I digress. At least I got The Body on tape, commercial free, from my sister's friend (who didn't want to watch it).
July 12, 2001, 2:54 p.m. CST
Where are The Simpsons?
by Terry_1978
Why is this show not in the category for best comedy? Would someone please tell me what is up with this?
July 12, 2001, 3:16 p.m. CST
What did we expect?
by JohnMOZ
http://www.webspawner.com/users/snyg/Emmy1.JPG Kinda says it all, really.
July 12, 2001, 4:09 p.m. CST
Junkyard Wars rules, as does Cathy Rogers!
by Redbeard_NV
The ultimate techno-terrors: cops, firemen, bikers, priests, artists, surfers, slackers and mages, oh my! Forget about BattleBots and it's bastard son, Robotica. The ability to turn nothing into something is the ultimate challenge!
July 12, 2001, 4:23 p.m. CST
Who doesn't think that Sally Field will get an Emmy for ER?
by xrae
I think the "guest actress in a drama" award is pretty much a given for Sally Field for her work on ER. And did ya notice.... Sopranos got four of five noms for drama series writing. The other was for West Wing.
July 12, 2001, 4:30 p.m. CST
by brittspie
ya know- i'm of the opinion that the noms are pretty decent this year- yeah, there are some shows that should have been recognized more and were not- CSI, being one- i could honestly care less about Buffy-sue me, i'm a traitor to my generation- So everyone's going ape nuts...But when a show gets a shiznit load of nominations it means that they're doing something right- Sopranos...West Wing...Will & Grace (which, yeah, it has had an odd year but the show, the cast... STILL MAKES ME LAUGH MY ASS OFF!!!) oh, and right on about Malcolm In the Middle taking the Friends spot... we know that the world is going to end when garbage like what's on my tv at this moment- Big Brother- is nominated...Oi.
July 12, 2001, 4:39 p.m. CST
by Rosie_Cotton
It's so silly that people can't look past the supernatural presense of Buffy to see the incredible writing, drama and humor in that show. You don't think the writing is good? go to www.mustreadtv.com/buffyscripts and read. Read the Body. Read Fool For Love. Read RESTLESS, for Christ's sake, the coolest dream sequences I have ever seen! But once, again, as always, I come back to the Body. A truly unforgettable hour of television. "I don't understand how this all happens, how we go through this, I mean I knew her and then she's, there's just a body, I don't understand why she just can't get back in it and not be dead, it's stupid, it's mortal and stupid, Xander's crying and not talking and I was having fruit punch and I thought that Joyce would never have any more fruit punch and she'd never have eggs, or yawn, or brush her hair, not ever and no one will explain..."
July 12, 2001, 4:42 p.m. CST
Sorry y'all, but "Buffy" didn't deserve an Emmy this season.
by Dave_F
Maybe for previous seasons, but not the current one. There were a few memorable episodes this time around, notably Spike's origin episode, and of course, "The Body", but as a whole it was fairly disappointing. The quips were running dry, Glory was a lame villain until about the last three episodes, and there was this unfortunate tendancy for episodes to blend together in my mind. If the Emmys recognize individual episodes, then yes, "The Body" damn well better be nominated. It *was* amazing. But the season as a whole? Merely solid. "West Wing" rightfully owns the nominations, and was probably both the funniest and the most dramatic show I watched this year. Go Allison Janney!
July 12, 2001, 5:05 p.m. CST
They *do* nominate individual episodes
by jlbkwrm
And that's what bugs me so much about this no Buffy nomination thing. The best writing/best directing nominations are for specific episodes (which is why both catagories can be totally covered by 2 shows), as are things like music, makeup, hair. They have to be, since writers, directors, etc. can change from episode to episode. The Body got no recognition, for either a great script or the impressive directing. While I agree that Buffy this season wasn't Best Drama material, it definately had some award-worthy eps (And, I'm sorry, but Sara Michelle Gellar's season-long performance was *excellent*, so I don't see why she was passed over. The material she had to work with wasn't necessarily always the best, but she did it well).
July 12, 2001, 5:23 p.m. CST
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July 12, 2001, 5:25 p.m. CST
oh, dear
by Kid Occult
What can you expect from a world in which Monica Lewinsky is a celebrity and Shakespeare in Love wins best picture. Everybody Loves Raymond is just sad. West Wing should just change its name to Liberals are Good. Will and Grace is completely dependant on homosexuality to draw attention; I agree with the guy who said that, if not for the gay thing, it would've been cancelled in three episodes. Personally, I can't think of a single drama that is better done than Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but maybe that's just me. At least Dave Letterman finally gets some recognition.
July 12, 2001, 5:31 p.m. CST
Hey, Antifanboy!
by The Alienist
As a matter of fact the words Joss and Whedon and Emmy were found together just a year ago when the "Buffy" episode 'Hush' was nominated for Best Writing In A Dramatic Series. That's right. Last year's nominatee for BEST writing in a fucking DRAMATIC TV SERIES were: 2 episodes of "Sopranos", 2 episodes of "West Wing" and an episode of "BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER". No 2000 writing noms for "ER". Or "The Practice". Or "Law and Order". Or "NYPD Fuckin' Blue". But for the show with the silly name and supposedly ludicrous premise. The top five written episodes of last TV season and Buffy was one. Thank you very much.
July 12, 2001, 6:24 p.m. CST
The Emmys ALWAYS pass up the sci-fi/fantasy shows!!
by madhacker87
I'm upset that Buffy didn't get nominated, but not really that surprised. I know I'm probably comparing apples to oranges here, but when Star Trek: The Next Generation was on, it NEVER got nominated for individual acting (a MAJOR slap in the face to Patrick Stewart, in my humble opinion) and only in the very last season did the show get nominated(and it lost too).
July 12, 2001, 6:51 p.m. CST
Yeah, Steve Buscemi!
by SadPanda
For the love of God shut up you stupid Buffy crybabies. The show isn't that great! If it was nominated for emmies, twice as many people would be on here complaining about what drugs the emmy voters were on and how they should find a new dealer. But everyone can agree about how great it is that Steve Buscemi was nominated for his work directing an episode of the Sopranos. Buscemi, who was recently stabbed, is nominated for directing the episode, "Pine Barrens." The episode was probably my favorite of the season. The snowy landscapes were clearly remeniscent of Fargo, which Steve was in. I hope he wins and hope he is recovering well.
July 12, 2001, 6:54 p.m. CST
Buffy may have deserved it, but backlash may have been a factor
by cbpsych1
Buffy's move to UPN is likely a factor in it's obvious shunning. Several media analysts have discussed how Fox's, the owners of Buffy, decision to move it's show to another network based on money would set a bad precedent and have fallout from the business. Buffy's shutout may be related to voters looking at commerce over artistic merit. I have no doubt that the Sopranos is a great show and deserves several nominations, but nominating it 4 times for writing is a bit much and reflects the conformist bullshit that causes other good shows to be ignored. Buffy may have been spotty this year, but it is still worthy of more recognition than it received. By the way, who thinks of the acting on CSI and Judging Amy as Emmy worthy? SMG acts rings around those actresses. I guess old people pick the Emmys and obviously old people watch fucking CBS.
July 12, 2001, 6:58 p.m. CST
The Emmys ALWAYS pass up the sci-fi/fantasy shows!!
by madhacker87
I'm really disappointed that Buffy didn't receive any nominations, but on refection I'm really not that surprised. The Emmys has a long tradition of ignoring sci-fi/fantasy shows. I may be comparing apples to oranges here but I recall that in the entire run of Star Trek: The Next Generation the show only got Emmys for makeup and special effects, NEVER ONCE for acting (witch, in my humble opinion, was a MAJOR slap in the face to Pactick Stewart's consistant oscar caliber performance), and only in the last season was the show even nominated for Best Drama(witch it lost, gee big surprise there).
July 12, 2001, 7:25 p.m. CST
jlbkwrm, you're right...
by Dave_F
...the awards for best writing and directing are indeed episode-specific, so I retract my earlier comment that the series didn't deserve any nominations this year. I'm still disappointed with the season as a whole, but the fact that "The Body" wasn't nominated is A FUCK-UP OF ASTRONOMICAL PROPORTIONS. Jesus, it was only about the most moving hour of dramatic TV I've ever watched! Fuckety fuck!
July 12, 2001, 7:45 p.m. CST
I must echo those before me...
by PyleanJoss
...in saying that "Buffy" was completely wronged! Overlooking the show produced the Emmy's three biggest snubs: James Marsters for Best Supporting Actor in a Drama (not that I was expecting it, but nobody deserved it more than him), Sarah Michelle Gellar (she has grown on me as an actress and managed an acting tour-de-force this year) and Joss Whedon for writing and directing "The Body" (that should have been a no-brainer). There was no chance the show could have gotten a nomination for Best Drama series, and I'm not sure it should have, but renominating its entire slate of last year's Best Drama nominees was sheer laziness on the part of the Emmy voters. I like "Law and Order" as much as anybody, but it's been on *ELEVEN* years and has been renewed for so long it will be rivalling "Gunsmoke" for drama series longevity once its current contract expires! Let another show take its place. Also, the Emmys should replace their "in a Drama" or "in a Comedy" caveats with "Best Dramatic or Comedic Performance, Actor or Actress". That way shows like "Gilmore Girls" (which is funnier than it is dramatic) would have an easier time getting nominated. Also, I had to laugh at the guy who said if it was good, it couldn't be on the WB. That's tres twisted logic, man. You do realize that the inverse of that is "Daddio rules! It's on NBC, so it has to." Riiiight. The fact that terrific shows like "BtVS" and "GG" have to seek refuge on the WB speaks more towards the networks' stupidity and intolerance than to the shows' (purely imagined) lack of quality.
July 12, 2001, 8:03 p.m. CST
***SCREW*** the Emmies.....screw it all to hell...........
by Smugbug
For not giving "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" a nod. *What*? they didn't even award a nomination to Sarah Michelle Gellar as Best Actress in a Dramatic Series? Did anyone see "The Body" episode? Geez, people, just cuz it's got vampires, demons and things does not mean it's not on parr with such as The West Wing or ER. Pull your collective heads out of your asses Emmy people and see what your missing....
July 12, 2001, 8:27 p.m. CST
Okay, at least "Junkyard Wars" was nominated.....
by Smugbug
but I did think that Eco Challenge: Borneo was pretty darn swell. And I hope Malcolm in the Middle wins Best Comedy........after that I could give a shit.........cuz, again they did not nominate Buffy in anything! Bastards - all of 'em.
July 12, 2001, 8:42 p.m. CST
BIG BROTHER Didnt get a Nod!? SACRELIGIOUS!!!
by Gengar
may God help us all
July 12, 2001, 9:44 p.m. CST
At least Andre Braugher got nominated
by Jonny Quest
Too bad he couldn't have been nomiated for best lead actor before his last season on HOMICIDE. GIGDEON'S CROSSING was good stuff, but HOMICIDE is where Braugher really showed what he is capable of. That he was not even nominated for the first five seasons is a crime the Emmy people will have to pay dearly for in the afterlife. At least somebody wised up enough to award him for his last season on the show.
July 12, 2001, 11:22 p.m. CST
I'm not saying...
by Barrymore
that this season of BUFFY was the greatest. It was much better than season 4 (which was dragged down by Riley and the army guys). In fact, I think that this season of ANGEL kicked Buffy's butt. But for the Emmy voters to overlook the performances on Buffy of Sarah Michelle Gellar, Alyson Hannigan, and especially James Marsters is a crime and a real shame. In my book, Anthony Head, Nick Brendon, and Michelle Trachtenberg should've all been nominated as well. I am just stunned that they overlooked James Marsters's amazing performance as Spike....
July 13, 2001, 4:16 a.m. CST
You kow what really makes me mad!!!!
by SKMDC
That Dark Angel was nominated for special effects. Even if the old farts from the Emmy's view Buffy as a genre show that can't compete with "real" drama, at the very least it should get nods in makeup categories and special effects. What kind of flippin' special effects does Dark Angel have? They did manage the special visual effect of totally ripping of the concept of Buffy and the name of Angel and putting on FOX, but other than that the show has the distinct smell of ASS.
July 13, 2001, 4:33 a.m. CST
"I would love to beat the face of every motherfucker who's think
by XTheCrovvX
Fuck Emmy voters. Fuck 'em right in the ear, through the brain, and out the other end. And 2000 years later, when future scientists find the dried skulls of these fools, let one of them have the imagination to fuck the skulls as well. This is just pure ignorance, though i can't sit here and say i'm surprised. I remember just a month or so ago, seeing one of the voters on Jeopardy, and being asked by Alex Trebek how the voting process works...i'll paraphrase it best i can..."Well, we get the advance tapes from the networks, but most of the time, you do the voting before hand, watching the shows you normally watch"...BINGO....biggest flaw in the voting process RIGHT THERE....most of these "people" are over 40-somethings waiting to retire. Assuming that these brainfarts would set their eyes, even on the advice of all the fanboys in the world, on Buffy is like assuming any one of the Three Tenors would do back-up vocals for Pantera. So, while i would've done the dance of joy if Buffy, or more importantly, just "The Body" had gotten nominated, im not at all surprised. That doesn't mean I'm ready to do the dance of shame yet, however. The solution? BOYCOTT. Tell your friends, your parents, your little brother or sister...spread the word. FUCK THE EMMYS. Tell 'em don't watch it. It's essentially the same show anyways, judging by the nominations. This is not disrespect toward the few shows on there that do deserve it (Sopranos, Sex and the City, West Wing), but only when nobody gives a flying shit will change occur, and maybe someone will get the point. SPREAD THE WORD, SPREAD IT FAST. When the night comes, and your significant other wants to see Martin Sheen take his Emmy...again...hold a broomstick in front of her, give her a few bucks to go get herself a coupla drinks, then turn the TV off...go read a book, clean your house, make love to your wife/girlfriend/prostitute/secretary, ANYTHING...but be stagnant. We ve got to stop putting up with this shit...you want something to root for? Go find as much info on the TV Critics awards as you can...THOSE are the awards the Emmys should be. Usually, I rate professional critics right down there with the black stuff that develops under your fingernails after a really hard day, but somehow, this list of nominations nails it perfect. As for Buffy...well...there's always the Golden Globes, right? Revolution is my name...."She saved the world....a lot."
July 13, 2001, 6:20 a.m. CST
Farscape -- 0, ST:V -- 8 ?!
by kgforce
How is it possible that a cheesy show like Star Trek: Voyager can garner 8 nominations, while the superior Farscape gets none!? An "average" episode of Farscape beats the "best" episode of ST:V in all categories: Special Effects, Costumes, Hairstyling, Music, Makeup, etc. (Not to mention that Farscape has better acting, storylines, humor, drama, and anything else you can think of!)
July 13, 2001, 6:50 a.m. CST
Animated shows
by littlefeet
Animated shows are not eligible for the Best Comedy category. They have their own and WHOO-HOO for "The Simpsons".
July 13, 2001, 7:21 a.m. CST
by mjj12
Why does it somehow feel that despite a $20 million deal with Fox, and five years of the finest television I have ever seen, Joss Whedon is still being snubbed by the sorts of people who were cooler than him in High School.
July 13, 2001, 7:30 a.m. CST
by btvsfan
http://www.emmys.org/membership/index.htm Maybe if enough real people join the academy, we could out-vote all of the tired old bags that sell the Emmys to the highest bidder. Then we could get Buffy the Emmy that it deserves!
July 13, 2001, 8:18 a.m. CST
Buffy gets snubbed and now joins the illustious ranks of great s
by MGTHEDJ
Just as "Star Trek: TOS" was passed over in the 1960's so is "Buffy". Several reasons are in play for this oversight. 1) As another person stated the bidding war did not sit well with Hollywood executives so no votes from them. 2) Older actors (Bochco/Chase/Gelbart's crews from the 1970's and early 1980's) voted for their friends and people who are younger but work (or have worked) for the Bochco/Chase/Gelbart/Kelly organizations (noms for Andre B., Dennis Franz, The Practice, and AMY BRENNEMEN AND TYNE DAILY???---there are your slots for Sarah Michelle Geller and Allyson Hannigan or Charisma Carpenter or Julie Benz.) 3) "Buffy" and "Angel" were left out by being FOX produced shows airing on AOL Time Warner (and come fall Viacom). AOL backed "ER" for best series (a little iffy) since it's Number 1 in the ratings and Kellner was vindictive (see point 1). Viacom pushed "CSI" (one nod for Helgenberger), "ST: Voyager", "Judging Amy", "Survivor" and "Road Rules". FOX itself backed "Dark Angel". 4) "Buffy" and "Angel" get lower ratings than their clones. "Charmed" beats "Buffy" and "Dark Angel" at one point was beating all 3. This is nothing new. "Trek" clone "Lost in Space" was the more popular show in the late 1960's. And to add to point 4 "Trek's" production company Desilu made another one of their shows at the time the favorite. That show was "Mission: Impossible". 5) But there is hope. "Trek" caught on in the 1970's in syndication while "Lost in Space" was forgotten, and "M:I"'s decline under Paramount in the 1970's lessened it's value to stations. "Buffy" and "Angel" are allegorical shows, just as "Star Trek" was and as long as there are teens and young adults who know that "High School is Hell" and "Young Adulthood Ain't Much Better" (or who remember) these two shows will live on long after "Charmed", "Dark Angel", "Judgeing Amy", "Family Law", "7th Heaven", "whatever NBC runs at 9:30/8:30 central on Tuesdays and Thursdays" are exiled to the USA Channel weekday morning lineup.-----later-----m
July 13, 2001, 9:08 a.m. CST
Extremely Disappointing
by Sugarfire6
For the Fifth Year in a row they ignored BTVS for an Emmy. For the first few season I can see the show being ignored. It was written off as a "Kids" show, that god forbid has a Vampire Motif! They dont seem to realize that the show is watched by all ages and is not just some kiddy show that spouts scary crap. This was one of the best season of BTVS as far as the acting and drama. There must be a way to get their attention and finally see that this show is more then they care to admit.
July 13, 2001, 9:37 a.m. CST
Lorraine Bracco
by mashman
I don't understand how Lorraine Bracco can be considered a "Lead Actress". Now she doesn't stand a chance! This was by far her best season, highlighted by the rape episode. But why nominate her for Lead Actress when she would have a much better chance in the Supporting Actress category. Of course, I am talking about the same people who keep giving emmy's to people like Kelsey Grammar, so I shouldn't be surprised.
July 13, 2001, 4:53 p.m. CST
Would you all shut the hell up???
by SadPanda
Wait, Buffy wasn't nominated? BIG F-IN DEAL! GET OVER IT! Why do you need a superficial award that really, when it comes down to it, means nothing??? YEs, it is voted on by a bunch of old farts. And, well, these old farts understandably don't like a show geared toward teenager sci-fi/fantasy fans. Personally, I don't like Buffy. No, it's not that I dislike Buffy, it's that I hate it with the fiery passions of hell. But if you guys really enjoy the show what does it matter if some old geezers don't? Whining and complaining now isn't going to do anything. So let there be an actual discussion on here about other shows (yeah- here's a news flash- There are other networks besides the WB and other shows besides Buffy and Angel. Just because it's a mainstream show doesn't mean it sucks. Those of you who said Everybody Loves Raymond isn't funny obviously have never seen one. The parents alone will make that show win. Unless those bastards from frasier win it again). And to all you people who think shows on a mainstream network can't be nominatedo, look at Malcolm in the Middle. The show is on a very non-mainstream FOX and is nominated for many well deserved awards. X-Files also won plenty in its time. But trust me you geeks, life goes on. Now go back to "cyber making out" with your online boy/girlfriends.<br> You are all diseased.<br> Love, Peace, and Chicken Grease,<br> SadPanda<br><br> P.S: And to the dumb moron who gave the low blow about Daddio (Damn, I'm a poet and I don't know it)- Listen, idiot, all networks air their occasional mistakes, but very few are made up by all crappy shows. (Lest I remind you of Homeboys in Outerspace, The Diary of The Guy From Boston Public, Movie Stars, and the Jamie Foxx Show)
July 14, 2001, 5:01 p.m. CST
Why Buffy gets ignored
by 2GOLD
Their is a VERY simple reason why Buffy gets ignored. They don't know what the hell catergory it goes under! It's not a drama(except one episode and sorry guys, that doesn't win awards as I SAID!) and it's an off again on again comedy series. Buffy needs to decide this SEASON what the hell it is! If your going to be a drama, be A DRAMA! Comedy series can get away with drama moments as long as a funny follows up. You guys are really not getting it. THEIR is no ACTION series catergory and never will be! That is the only way Buffy will EVER get a nod from Mr. Emmy. Face it, Buffy is trying to play both teams and it ain't happening. Remember, Emmy people are stupid. You confuse them and they won't vote for you. Maybe Spike or Xander should get addictted to cocaine in real life, it seems to work real well for that waste of space Robert Downey Jr. Before drugs- ZERO AWARDS! After Drugs- HE CAN'T BE STOPPED! SEE KIDS, DRUGS DO AMOUNT TO SOMETHING IN REAL LIFE...EMMY NOMINATIONS!!! Start on the crack now Gellar and you'll be hoisting that trophy by next year!
July 15, 2001, 2:20 p.m. CST
Why Buffy really get's ignorred
by SadPanda
Because it sucks.
July 17, 2001, 11:37 p.m. CST
Barry Sobel
by Venture
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Are Pacers better than Heat?
Bold words emanating from Indiana, but are they right? Maybe.
Consider your message received, Roy Hibbert.
On Wednesday night, the Indiana center took to Twitter and declared that he's made it his goal to win NBA Defensive Player of the Year this season. He also called his shot that Paul George will win MVP this season. But Hibbert probably didn't need to embark on a campaign trail to get our attention. Truth is, his Pacers are playing loud enough to let their game speak for itself.
It's impossible to ignore that the Indiana Pacers sit atop the NBA standings with a big, fat 5-0 record, the only team that's still undefeated this season. They've trounced their opponents by 11.0 points per game on average, which actually understates how dominant they've been this season since they play at a snail's pace. And to drive home the point, they just put a beatdown on the Chicago Bulls on national television.
We see you, Indiana. After pushing the Miami Heat to the brink of elimination last postseason, the Pacers haven't just picked up where they've left off. By all indications, they've gotten better. Which brings us to this question: Are they better than Miami -- like, right now?
It's a fair proposition given their astounding growth in the early going and Miami's ho-hum efforts so far. Should Miami be concerned? Here are three reasons the answer is yes.
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