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Miniskirt outrage Brazilian becomes Carnival queen
The 20-year-old Brazilian lass who was expelled from São Paulo's Bandeirante University for wearing a miniskirt has strutted her stuff as a Rio Carnival queen. Geisy Arruda and her miniskirt Geisy Arruda provoked a near riot at the seat of learning last October by turning up to lectures in what fellow students considered …
Eh? What?
I missed this story the first time around.
Are the students of this university members of some brainless cult? Have they joined the Taliban or the Latter Day Saints or something?
Eh? What? Indeed
As a Latter Day Saint myself I'm interested in being compared to both a brainless cult and the Taliban. While the Church itself does ask its members to adhere to modest dress standards it is also down to personal choice and certainly not the same as some interpretations of modesty seen in Islam. Also, I doubt any Latter Day Saint would condone the actions of the people at the University, I certainly don't. Even if I think that a person dresses immodestly I have no right to jeer or shout abuse at that person. Misrepresentation of religious groups in this manner tars good people with a bad brush. You might want to do some research about people before making some sensationalist comments.
"modest dress standards"
Apologies, yours was the cult picked out of the hat for my comment -- it could just have easily been any other <generic protestant cult> or, indeed <generic Catholic cult>.
Unless the modest dress is fig leaves?
No, no, no - you got it all wrong
The Catholic cult is the one which is messing with young boys, not dress codes.
Please pay attention.
The flasher Mac, please
I'm guessing Brazilian academics are still living in the middle ages then?
Surely the ones being kicked out of university should have been those shouting 'whore'. If you don't like what you see, don't look, etc...
What actually happened
I studied with someone from the town where this happened. She said that the girl walked around the campus, from room to room, and was lifting up her skirt to show-off what was underneath.
She wasn't thrown out for what she wore, but for what she did. Bare in mind (like what I did there?) that this was an expensive, exclusive college, where people go to study, not play football in spacesuits, or dance around with pom-poms.
I'll get me coat on me way out.
Football in spacesuits
Gee, ta for that "playing football in spacesuits" line - that's another keyboard/screen needing coffee cleaned off of it.
I shouldn't see it as amusing, if some get their way then rugby will have to have the mega-padding too.
Wash she wearing her smalls or not? Just out of idle curiosity...
That is interesting to hear
and certainly differs from what I read in the press. Turns out you shouldn't believe everything you read, eh?
Er... no.
"that this was an expensive, exclusive college, where people go to study"
I'm from São Paulo, and know that university quite well -- have had undergrad students from there attending our winter courses when I was still in grad school, and have a friend who works there at their TV station.
It's NOT exclusive, and not that expensive either. Most students in private universities in Brazil are from lower middle class or lower in socio-economical status -- because they often could not pay for good elementary and high school, they are not well prepared enough to get into public universities. Uniban is mostly a diploma mill (in spite of the good intentions of many faculty), there's a ton of units all over the place, and as long as you pay your monthly fees, you're fine. As the semi-joke goes for that type of school, "if you lose you ID card in the sidewalk in front of their door, you're admitted" (BTW, yes, we've always had mandatory national ID cards, boo hoo). Such establishments are also nicknamed "uni-esquina" ("uni-corner", because there's one in every street corner). They try to hire the cheapest professors possible -- i.e., people without any graduate school or teaching experience. Therefore government had to pass a law forcing "universities" to hire a minimum proportion of instructors with masters or PhD degrees. And even then they find ways around that too.
Now, as to whether she was behaving in the way you describe, I can't comment on that. I wasn't there, or haven't talked directly to anyone who was. But I haven't seen, in any of the Brazilian news I read on this, anyone describing things happening like that. So who knows. Either way, even if she DID do what you've been told, that wouldn't justify the near lynching, I believe.
In Brazil, the "exclusive" universities where "people go to study" (well, some of them at least) are the public ones -- where tuition is completely free.
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As little faith as I put in media accounts, they are probibly still safer then to beleave some random person on the internet who "knows someone who went to school there"
Re: What actually happened
But with no disrespect to your study-colleague intended, that is exactly the sort of friend-of-a-friend story that activates my BS detector. It sounds plausible, but it's the "she deserved it" excuse that we've heard before.
@What actually happened...
Pictures or it didn't happen.
So what was it?
Come on, we're all dying to know - what unthinkable thing was underneath, exactly?
What was it that she kept under there that so offended these silly little people? Was it a terrorist? Maybe a paedophile? Come on, do tell!
Consumer rights
"Arruda reportedly had around $20k-worth of nip and tuck before her Carnival debut..."
Is she too late to get a refund?
Bemused disbelief
I thought Brazil was more liberal minded.
In a sales pitch for Canadian universities, I am constantly bemused by the a common undergrad female apparel which often appears to include only spandex tights and a thong on the lower bits. (To be clear there is upper coverage.) Of course winter has temporarily limited exposure but spring is coming...
Canuck female apparel
Hmm, if it's spandex and thongs in autumn and spring in Canada, then we know where Geordies emigrated to.
"What happened to me really shook people"
You're not wrong there, I was so shaken up it was like a jumbo jet wearing a miniskirt had crashed into the world trade center.
By the looks of the pics, should that be "minidress"? Yes I know, I should probably spend less time in ladies' changing rooms.
Effective Product Placement?
seems to have worked anyway.
Please can we have more stories with headlines including "Brazilian" and "Miniskirt" ?
Note merely the headlines!
That would be a mean trick.
for all the hard work you've put in on this story, boys
She let me down
Actually, I was on her side from the beginning. Incredible! ain't it? Our Brazilian friends much less tolerant than the carnival do Brasil promises; with millions being half naked.
Even if she lifted her almost non-existing dress as someone reported here, by all means, we are adult people, aren't we?
She's just 20, and looks pretty okay on those pictures, at least to me. Where she let me down, so to say, is with this polishing work of hers. What a sick world we have, haven't we, when a 20-year-old good-looking bird doesn't have the confidence to make it into the public without some uplifting work.
Maybe she's not quite sane after all.?
The linked video
To make an interesting news story, they play the same shots several times. Mmm...
As for the chant, I had an Ally McBeal moment - hooga-shaka-hooga-shaka-hooga-shaka...
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Just how crazy can the Chinese media react to seeing a beautiful girl?
A young woman was caught taking off her coat behind US President Barack Obama during his town hall meeting in Shanghai early November.
I would not be naming her anymore as her name and photos are all over the internet now. And well, I am sure this blog would merit her more unwarranted attention.
But really, I find it weird how the press would just be entranced by her presence.
Anyone care to share their analysis on this topic? This is really one of the more distorted things I have noticed in Chinese broadsheets.
Some off-the-wall, "weird" news" keep popping up in the papers. Does this confirm what I read about the Chinese media lacking in "in-depth" news due to them being politically sensitive?
It's quite entertaining though.
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A couple points worth noting in a piece just moved by Shannon McCaffrey of the Associated Press out of Tennessee:
Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain said Saturday he'll go toe-to-toe with Rick Perry for the GOP primary's critical evangelical vote.
In an interview, Cain said the Texas governor "thought he had carved out that niche, when he didn't own that niche by himself."
"People are realizing that he is not the only Christian conservative in this race," Cain [said] at a campaign stop in Harriman, Tenn., where he spoke before close to 1,000 tea party activists.
The Georgia businessman and former radio talk show host is giving himself a little wiggle room with the phrase, but "not the only Christian conservative" isn't just a slap at Texas Gov. Rick Perry. It's certainly a way to highlight GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney's religion.
More importantly, Cain will be in the Washington D.C. audience tomorrow when President Barack Obama dedicates the new Martin Luther King Jr. memorial:
Cain also said he will attend the dedication of a memorial to the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. on the National Mall in Washington. Cain said he'll be a guest of Alveda King, the civil rights pioneer's niece and an anti-abortion activist. Cain called King, "one of my personal heroes."
Democratic President Barack Obama, the man Cain wants to replace in the White House, is set to address Sunday's event.
Cain has drawn criticism from, some in the black community for his views on race.
At a campaign stop Saturday Cain accused liberals of playing the race card "until it's the joker in the deck."
"America isn't worried about color. It's worried about content, character and ideas," he said. "It ain't about race."
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October 15th, 2011
9:05 pm
Wouldn't it be nice if we could really finally move past race? The funny thing is it seems like whites are a lot more ready to do so than blacks. Obama could not have won without White Voters and the leading Republican candidate right now is an African American. However, many Black Leaders still act like we are living in the Jim Crow era or something. Maybe if African Americans could move past racial divisions we would all be a lot closer to seeing Dr. King's dream become reality.
October 15th, 2011
9:15 pm
The LEADERS of people of color don't want to move past it, it would put them out of business.
October 15th, 2011
9:21 pm
A good friend asked if I'd meet with Herman Cain in 2004 in preperation for his U.S. Senate race. I agreed. My intention was to tell Herman to forget about it! Isakson had paid his dues, and much like Coverdell, would have the nomination wrapped up before qualifying. But, after listening to Herman Cain talk passionately about his vision for America, I wanted to join his team. He rekindled a fire in me that I hadn't felt since the 92 U.S. Senate race.
On race: I obviously recognized that Herman was a black man, but after 10 minutes of discussion I simply saw him as a conservative leader who could carry the message with passion and fire up folks from all walks of life. Growing up in Coffe County, I always laughed at my Atlanta friends in college. They reacted to people of color differently than "white" folks. But, I'd grown up in a 50/50 school. Whites and blacks learned, played and ate together every day. We didn't go to "Walton" or "South Cobb". We just went to school. Maybe my ability to see past Herman's color had something to do with the way I grew up. However, I would like to believe it was because we both had a passion for America and that drew us together. Either way, I'm just dang glad I had the opportunity to work with Herman. I know that I'm a better person because of it.
After working with Herman for the entire 2004 primary, I can promise you this. He means every word he says and when he goes to sleep at night, he doesn't have a single regret. Herman Cain is a man of vision and character. He'd be a great President and no matter what the outcome of this race will be a man I respect.
October 15th, 2011
9:22 pm
The "move" is occurring…..just hope it's not too late!??
October 15th, 2011
9:29 pm
You southern gentlemen will never let Herman "Silas" Cain run the Barkley Ranch!
October 15th, 2011
9:34 pm
There's no doubt that MLK would be a conservative today-like the one rightful daughter that he had. Dr. King would be denouncing his Communist past while talking about free markets, opportunity for the black man in business with a dedication go God + family. Mr. Cain comes close to what MLK would look like today. Amen, Bill
October 15th, 2011
9:43 pm
SAWB: This white boy agrees completely with your plea that we finally move past race. All my black friends agree too. They would love NOTHING better than to move past race. Now, if only we could get the rest of the white folks to agree, we might put this whole race thing to bed once and for all. 'Cause I don't think the black folks bear the primary responsibility for keeping it going.
October 15th, 2011
9:51 pm
Isn't it funny that only Mr. Cain has eleuded to race during this campaign season. Black walnut. Blacks brainwashed etc. No one else has gone that far. Mr. Cain wants to have his cake and eat it too.
October 15th, 2011
9:58 pm
Corey, you wouldn't know race baiting if it bit you in the A$$. Do you not read the paper or watch TV??? Belafonte, Cornel West!!!! Come on man, either get up to speed on the issues or shut up!
October 15th, 2011
9:58 pm
If only AFRICAN Americans would just become Americans at least, or rather Black Americans at most. Why must the first allegiance be to Africa? By the way, work in Africa sometime and you'll see that the REAL Africans aren't African, they are tribal people and identify them selves with the various tribes, then nations. Africa is a continent of whites, mullatos, tan-skin, black and other racials thrown in. As for me, I happen to be an American…of Irish descent…not Irish-American!!!
October 15th, 2011
9:59 pm
So King would support raising taxes on low income people and lowering the taxes for the wealthy. Thats 999. Its raising your taxes on everything from milk to bread to gas. I guess King would end social security and medicare too. Cain is the rich man's best friend because he is black. If a white republican said 999 he would be through. The other right wingers at the bottom of the pack seem afraid to confront black moses for now. Why? His simple plan is just that, simple. His has used the reverse race card just like B. Hall did. Good try Morehouse man. Sell your books, do your talk show and make more money. Truth crushed will rise. White folks like you cause you hate us
October 15th, 2011
10:04 pm
Mr. Cain, we can get past race when you shut up about it. "Blacks are brainwashed". "I'll deliver 1/3 of the Black vote" "authentic Black experience" "strong Black man" and so on and so forth.
Hypocrite. You will make a perfect Fox news anchor when you do not win the presidency.
October 15th, 2011
10:09 pm
@the Teacher, you might just want learn want all 99 gets rid of before you moan about what it does.
A simple tax code would almost get rid of all tax fraud, all tax loopholes, and many other inefficient
revenue streams that the federal government has screwed up in the name of votes buying.
Go back to school.
October 15th, 2011
10:14 pm
Dr. King wanted people to be judged by the content of their character and he wanted equal opportunity for all. Herman Cain has achieved the dream by educating himself and working hard, not by "slipping through the cracks" when someone was't looking despite what Harry Belafonte thinks. He would never accuse Oprah or Obama of "slipping through the cracks" but since Cain is Conservative then he must be demonized. It's sad. Herman Cain deserves respect for what he has accomplished even from those who don't hold the same political views. When liberals cannot win the debate they resort to name calling and verbal put-downs.
October 15th, 2011
10:16 pm
You voted for Obama to prove you werent a racist. Vote for Cain to prove you arent an idiot.
October 15th, 2011
10:30 pm
It's funny that Mr. Cain thinks America doesn't care about color. While the rest of Black America was out fighting for civil rights, shedding blood and learning firsthand that in fact many in America do CARE passionately about race and wanted to make sure that some of us stayed in our place, Mr. Cain was hiding behind a book on the advice of his sellout Daddy.
This crazy bigoted man will say anything to be president. He hates EVERYBODY: blacks. Muslims, Hispanic immigrants and he has the gall to act as though America only cares about character when he leads the way to marginalize and demonize various groups.
Worst of all, he is allowing himself to be used and badly. There is no way he will win the presidency but now the Tea Partiers will paste bumper stickers with his name on them on the backs of their pickups and claim that they are not racist. Sheesh.
October 15th, 2011
10:46 pm
"Vote for Cain to prove you arent an idiot."
Yes vote for Cain and his Jesus scar, prove you aren't an idiot.
October 15th, 2011
11:13 pm
I will vote for Cain in the republican primary. Then I will work for the reelection of the best president that we have had in my life time. If king had not been murdered he would probably do the same
October 15th, 2011
11:16 pm
No black person other than Herman Cain is sitting at the feet of white people seeking counsel on race relations. Y'all want blacks to forget about race, when many of you demanded a black sitting president show his papers, when blacks have been hounded and terrorized almost unabatedly since the end of the civil war. Someone, I can't recall who, once said, physician heal thy self.
October 15th, 2011
11:18 pm
This Bull B%*T about moving past race is just that. When we first see a person two thing are glaring us in the face GENDER and RACE..
How the hell can one get past that. The very people who are always bring it up are the same ones who have difficulty abour moving past it. (See HC)
One other statement that has nothing to do with the previous statements: Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was not a Republican. If he were a Rep, why did he not support GOLDWATER. PLEASE PEOPLE STOP TELLING THAT LIE!!
October 15th, 2011
11:46 pm
Much More Breaking News On Brother Cain becoming the Next MLK Of The Republican Tea Party.. A campaign Spokensperson for the Cain Campaign said today" That Brother Cain was to be ignored if he says anything political or gives campaign speechs that might make people think he is not what they thought he was. It has been reveal to us that a Group of Midget Wall Street Protestors Communist Gay Muslins Atheists Ron Paul types have occupy his Skull last night claiming that it was empty with enough space to support the entired Atlanta Falcons Offensive Line. Whatever Mr Cain says in Public in the next few days, disregard his comments."
October 15th, 2011
11:51 pm
Vietvet he was until JFK cut the deal to get him out of gsp. It's history dude all you have to do is read the books
October 15th, 2011
11:55 pm
You libs love to talk about HATERS but once you start talking about a black conserative you expose who the real HATERS are.
October 15th, 2011
11:56 pm
Corey you are crazy. You never heard the comments by Cornel West, Harry Belefonte, Morgan Freeman, Ed Sultze and other liberals. Uncle Tom, Oreo, and other N word that I can't comment on.
October 15th, 2011
11:59 pm
All and I mean all blacks know uncle Tom Herm is a (nickel a dozen) uncle Tom for the tea party. All blacks know that he's being used to talk badly about blacks now so he can help the teapartyers TALK about RACE, BLACKS & OBAMA, all while saying we're not RACIST look Herman Cain said it. Blacks have seen this before, whites hold one uncle Tom up and say all blacks need to act like this Tom. Blacks know self made wealthy blacks from Bonifided white installed puppets. You whites on this forum can forget about changing any true black people about Cain, we see through him. Hahahaha Hahaha we've seen this for 400 years!!
October 16th, 2011
12:02 am
If what you said is true then why do so many whites on the far right cry about black voters being racist to vote for Obama when blacks have been voting heavy Democrat since JFK became a "hero" in the black community? Claiming that whites are more prepared to move past race is simply more finger pointing by saying "my side is right and your side is wrong" which is what every race, political party, sports fanbase, etc does.
October 16th, 2011
12:07 am
"All and I mean all blacks know uncle Tom Herm is a (nickel a dozen) uncle Tom for the tea party. All blacks know that he's being used to talk badly about blacks now so he can help the teapartyers TALK about RACE, BLACKS & OBAMA, all while saying we're not RACIST look Herman Cain said it. Blacks have seen this before, whites hold one uncle Tom up and say all blacks need to act like this Tom. Blacks know self made wealthy blacks from Bonifided white installed puppets. You whites on this forum can forget about changing any true black people about Cain, we see through him. Hahahaha Hahaha we've seen this for 400 years!!"
I am not sure if this is a joke, but if someone really belives this it is sad and I wonder if there is hope for any of us.
October 16th, 2011
12:14 am
"why do so many whites on the far right cry about black voters being racist to vote for Obama"
I am by no means a linguist, but I fail to see how the term "racist" would apply in your example. This is a prime example of how some people have so misused the word that most people do not even know what it means anymore. Now if someone simply disagrees with an African American on a philosophical issue they are a racist. The danger is that when true racism emerges, as I know it still does sometimes, no one listens because everyone is crying wolf.
October 16th, 2011
12:18 am
And what's the deal with telling blacks to get over the AFRICAN American thing when Italian, Irish, German, Polish, etc Americans have been at each other's throats for centuries in this country? Yes, America is so racist at the core that racism has involved white vs white all along. People are just too ignorant to understand that despite skin tone being similar, Irish vs Italian (and others) is still racism. It even extends past race to religion when you bring in the negative treatment of Jews in America, yet we two-face and say we must stand with Israel. I've even heard some WASPs say the only reason they are pro-Israel is because the Bible says those who stand with Israel will be blessed. Those people are blatantly trying to use Israel for their own salvation and not because they think it's the right thing to do.
Get off the high horse and face the problem! Americans love to hate anyone and everyone they can.
October 16th, 2011
12:20 am
herman cain is out of the same mold as clarence thomas. another white ass kissing uncle tom
October 16th, 2011
12:22 am
At least you're being fair about saying "everyone is crying wolf."
October 16th, 2011
12:27 am
SAWB, it's easy where was Cain when we had Dubya? Whites (teapartyers) wanted the the other Tom (former RNC chair) Steele to fell the bill but he couldn't cut it, so they picked up uncle toms Tim Scott, Allen West and few other uncle toms often featured on FOX NEWS. Blacks know there wouldn't be these TOMS if we didn't have OBAMA. Like I said where was these toms before Obama in the media and on FOX NEWS. The whites on this forum must be smoking Meth,if they think they're fooling blacks. HaHaHa, Hahaha.
October 16th, 2011
12:27 am
"Americans love to hate anyone and everyone they can."
I am afraid you are right, but I think you may need to be a little more objective when you look to see who those people truly are. While I can understand why groups who have been oppressed in the past would be angry I fail to see how those attitudes move us forward. Much of the acts that anger people were committed in the past by people who are no longer here. I have never owned a slave, burned a cross or blown up a Temple and I fail to see how holding me or my generation responsible for these acts does any good.
October 16th, 2011
12:39 am
Easy SAWB look at the teapartys actions last year
October 16th, 2011
12:45 am
"Easy SAWB look at the teapartys actions last year"
Well, I am not a member of the Tea Party and guess what neither are most white people. However, just for fun can you provide some examples of the behavior that you feel was racist? Remember just disagreeing with Obama, supporting the Constitution or calling for fiscal reform does not make someone racist.
October 16th, 2011
12:57 am
Tom When I See:
You do not make an argument at all. Which actions? Facts or examples will make your argument credible.
October 16th, 2011
1:19 am
Usually the very people that are always saying "can BLACK PEOPLE just get over race!", are the ones that harbor the racist views. Race is still a huge issue in this country. Its hard to "get over it" when its smacking you in the face on a daily basis
October 16th, 2011
5:02 am
gman @9:29 – that is right, cain needs to get his own ranch to run.
October 16th, 2011
5:17 am
These first two paragraphs I sent to Cain's office this week:
As a "conservative Democrat," and a Black professional woman who is a strong proponent of personal responsibility, I want to suggest you change the approach to your "race" discussion.
You will gain more Black support if you simply push the 'victors, not victims' mentality. There are many who feel that much of what is happening in the Black community is NOT always the White man's fault. BUT to denigrate all Blacks who are Democrats, or use inflammatory language–"plantation, etc."–isn't helpful. It's divisive. I have MANY friends who think like me, and other Black friends who think I'm too hard on Blacks because I don't keep claiming that slavery is the reason why the Black community is the way it is today. I say no more excuses. But I suggest you just push the positive message of self-determination, and tell people they can push past their circumstances and that in this great country you CAN achieve.
NOW…That said, no one should think for one second that racism is dead. Whites need to own that they started the problem in this country centuries ago. (If you hit me, and I hit you back, am I initially racist, or responsive?) Whites need to call out the guilty parties in their race when they see it happening. Blacks need to stop claiming that it occurs for all issues affecting their lives.
Why is rich dark color so good in all other aspects of life–plants, art, food, etc.–but despised when it comes to skin color?
At the end of a book called "Living Well Despite Catchin' Hell' (a health, sex & happiness book geared to Black women, but good for all to read), there's a "Tough Love" section for Blacks. Whites and Blacks should check it out. [Ex: "Stop rebelling against the country in which you were born"; return to "American–Black American, not "African-American" (for native-born American Blacks, etc.)
In short, Whites need to own racism more (and admonish their own who exhibit it), and Blacks need to stop claiming it for all things.
October 16th, 2011
6:31 am
It appears that some responded to Cain's opinion of the State of Race Relations in the same way that some responded to Trent Lotts opinion that the State of Race Relations would have been better had Strom Thurmond had become POTUS rathet than Harry Truman.
October 16th, 2011
6:33 am
Interesting that Herman Cain thinks race doesn't matter to voters. Where has he been since Pres. Obama's election? Has he not seen the hate filled comments on blogs about the Pres.'s place of birth despite the evidence to the contrary? Did he not see the racist rants of Tea Party members in Washington to black members of Congress? Herman Cain is a louder version of Clarence Thomas. Cain's agenda is his own. He cares little about the plight of the poor in the US – be they white or black. His agenda is promoting the ultra rich at the expense of the middle class and poor. The color I see when I view Cain is green. The same folks who love Clarence Thomas love Herman Cain. People of good will with compassion and empathy for all do not support either. When Herman Cain doesn't win the GOP nomination, he might have a different view on race in that party. It will be interesting to watch.
October 16th, 2011
6:35 am
Black Female, conservative Democrat. Just a short reply. Blacks need to understand that the Democrat Party is the party of the KKK. All the southern racists up until the 70's were demorats including Georgie Wallas. It was the republicans in congress pressuring the Dems to pass the Civil rights Act that were responsible for the passage of that Act. Senator Robert Bird (D) was high up in the KKK and personally recruited 150 into the KKK. It is part of the reason that Dr. Martin Luther King was a registered Republican. In other words, Abraham Lincoln was a Republican when the North defeated the South. Therefore, all southern politicians were Democrats and MLK was a republican.
Hermain Cain is correct. The racist Democrats "fooled or brainwashed" the blacks into believing that they are the party for them. All they did was find a way to keep blacks enslaved to them and the government while destroying the black family through suposedly "helpful programs" for the black community.
October 16th, 2011
6:38 am
The real news is that Herman Cain is the only GOP candidate who plans to attend the memorial. Has anyone heard if Rush, Boortz, etal, or inside the Beltway folks like Boehner or McConnell, or Cantor plan to attend?
October 16th, 2011
6:44 am
Do not let anyone fool you, food stamps not a government program for Blacks. It is a program that, for the most part, subsidizes the agricultural industry on one side, and allows business and industry to increase their profits by paying lower wages on the other.
October 16th, 2011
6:47 am
Section 8 is not a government program for Blacks. It is a program that subsidized a lot of businesses that built substandard houses, charge high rents, and in a lot of cases blame the tenants when things begin to fall apart.
October 16th, 2011
6:49 am
Instead of attending the MLK Memorial dedication it would be more appropriate for Herman Cain to chauffeur white people around and to not cause any trouble like his daddy taught him.
What a hypocrite Herman Cain is.
October 16th, 2011
7:11 am
It is unfortunate that we live in a State where a number of people think social justice is socialism, and that a sociologist is a socialist.
October 16th, 2011
7:20 am
I'm racist if I claim not to be racist.
October 16th, 2011
7:30 am
The lefties need race hatred to move their black vote. No race hatred, no 98% block vote for the democrats. Just like in Atlanta, the closer we get to the elction the more the so called leaders will fan race hatred to keep the black voters in line. They know it's shameful. They try not to get caught doing it in public but race hatred has worked for the democrats for decades.
October 16th, 2011
7:38 am
Isn't it strange that the black race card pops up primarily when a diversion or an excuse is needed, or some type advantage or special consideration is sought.


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So it's 10 pm on the night before the start….
We just had a great crew dinner in which we all took a breath to acknowledge how far we've come. Pete humbly thanked all the folks that have done so much to help get the boat ready. We give special thanks to our friends at Raritan Yacht Club, Clearly, the Rebovich family and crew understand that this effort has been shared by a really large group of supporters. At the same time, there is still work to be done. Relative to our competitors, the boat is not yet 100%. Race day is always early, but tomorrow will be especially so. We are confident we'll be ready to go by start time. Once we clear the line, the crew knows what they need to do. Thank you to everyone who has helped and supported us. You are the best!
Less than two weeks and counting…..
June 3, 2014
This week's milestone was getting the engine running. The replacement Westerbeke 4-107 was previously in Paul Van de Meer's boat, Guillemot, one of 57 boats lost by our club in Sandy. Paul graciously came by on Saturday and spent the entire day helping us get it hooked up and wired properly. The biggest hitch was fabricating an end fitting for the kill cable. That took a couple of hours. Finally, we got it running, but it wasn't pumping water. We figured out that we had reversed a pair of hoses (not that hard to do on an engine with 3 different heat exchangers) and bingo!
The engine runs great, and Paul is happy to know that part of Guillemot survives. Sinn Fein has had a number of organ transplants from lost boats. My wife's and my boat, Poppy, alone has contributed wood molding, a battery, lifeline gates and lifeline cushions! Poppy is going to Bermuda!
We've also been working hard on the wiring. Last night Pete and Kelly wired the bilge pump, switch, and new high water alarm. We also have the VHF radio, instrument displays and processors working. We haven't had a chance to check the nav lights.
A couple of our challenges for this week are installing the AIS and fixing the hydraulics. Unfortunately Garmin tells us that they no longer make the GPS antenna for our old B&G instruments. This means that any of the instruments using locational information from the GPS won't work. Our current plan is to feed the GPS signal from the AIS to the B&G, but we haven't actually tried this yet,… and everything seems to be more complicated than it should be!
The hydraulic backstay adjuster has also been a trial. The panel leaks and no one seems to be able to get parts for it. Pete bought a second one off of eBay, but it also leaks. If we run out of time, we may actually have to go back to the ancient manual turnbuckle system.
We have yet to hoist a sail, but are planning to get out this week. The boat leaves New Jersey 2 weeks from yesterday!
Made the measurement deadline!!
The mast went in without a hitch last weekend. Thanks to Buzz Ballenger for making a beautiful spar that fit perfectly. Dobbs Davis came up from Annapolis and measured the boat on Monday. We actually made the measurement deadline with a couple of days to spare! The hoses are on the engine and the filters mounted, but it's still not quite running. Hopefully VW Bob will be able to help out this weekend.
We are into the stage where every job on the punch list seems to be specialized, nothing fits quite right, and every task takes longer than expected. The muffler on the replacement engine is too tall. We have to customize a pin for the gooseneck. The mast hold-down requires a different bolt. The screws on the B&G processor are hopelessly frozen. Because we are moving the instruments around, we need to cut new faceplates for one of instrument panels. It goes on and on. But Mega seems to get a couple of jobs done every day—with Kevin's help on most days. Kelly usually comes down after work.
The hydraulic cylinder in the vang has been replaced and the backstay adjuster is being rebuilt. The batteries are mounted. The wiring has been pulled. Hopefully Gary will finish of the nav station in the next few days so that Mark can tab it in and we can start installing the instruments. There is also a lot of handwork required. Mega needs to stich chafe gear on the spectra lifelines. There is a new mast collar to be made. The good news is it's a 3-day weekend.
Happy Birthday MPYC!
Sinn Fein Update May 12, 2014
Well, the boat hauled back out on Monday. It was hard to get much work done during the week. Pete Sr. and Kevin did get all the slats remounted on the side of the hull above the bunks.
Despite being really windy on Saturday, the weather was pretty good for boat work this weekend. Mark had to make the repair to the shaft log before we could move the engine back into position. The repair consists of a lot of fiberglass in the bilge around the log where it comes through the hull, then covered with heavy duty filler. On the outside, Mark shot 3M 4200 caulk in through the vents for the cutless bearing, length epoxied around the aft end of the cutless. We hope it'll hold together. They are pretty sure they'll have to rework it all next winter when they have more time to "do it nice."
On Sunday, Pete Sr. and VW Bob worked on getting the engine and V-drive hooked up. Identical engine to the old one; brand new V-drive. What could go wrong? Alright, yes the transmission was just a little longer on the new engine. To make a long story short, it didn't fit. After much swearing, cutting of fiberglass, and bumping the engine back and forth, they managed to get it connected. It's not aligned yet, and all the accessories need to get hooked up, but this was big.
Other smaller jobs that got done:
- Artie has fixed several small pieces of trim that needed work.
- The two Pete's got the new lifelines done. They're nice spectra numbers complete with a little spectra chafe patch at each stanchion.
- Mark and Kelly hooked up the stem fitting and nose piece. This was another one of those old boat jobs where nothing would line up right. It all had to bolted up ins just the right order, with nothing too tight. We had to dry fit it, then take it out, squeeze all the caulk in and install it a second time. Kelly lost about ten pounds up in the nose of the boat on a warm day.
- Gary and Kelly also got the final pieces of the toe rail cut. Mark then cut a couple of small wedges to go on top of the rail in the front to smooth the transition between the nose piece and the toe rail. This didn't get bolted in because we ran out of time.
- Gary also cut a template for the cabinetry above the new navigation station and ice box.
- Finally, Pete Jr. and Kelly made a first pass at wet sanding the bottom. It was just enough to take the worst of the orange peel and roller marks out, but it'll get better as got to finer paper.
In….then out!
The boat went in, but has to come back out again!
Friday night we worked until 10 pm, with Susan and Krista painting the cove stripe by spotlight! We got the engine in the boat—at least in place and bolted down enough that it won't fall over. The rudder went in (again) and seems to be great now. There was no time to wet sand with more important jobs going down to the wire.
Saturday was Raritan's annual group boat launch. It was a beautiful day and Sinn Fein was last to get splashed, so we had a bit of a chance for a celebration. With so many people having helped out, everyone felt pretty invested in the event. A bit after noon, the boat entered the water to wild applause and champagne. Crew member Rev. Anne-Marie Jeffery gave a quick blessing—when you sail a 50 year old boat, it's a really good idea to have a priest on the crew!
The bad news is the boat is leaking! Two steps forward and one step back. It's not a big leak, but there is a trickle coming in through the shaft log. It's a known weak point on the boats (if you can call it a weak point when something drips after 50 years!). The boat will come out this week so the job can get done properly. Hauling it out isn't necessarily the worst thing that could happen. It'll be easier for the mechanic to get the engine going on land than on the mooring. The insurance surveyor will come over and sign off on the final hull repairs (hopefully). We can get the head stay tang mounted. Maybe we'll even get the bottom wet sanded?
Sunday, the wind howled out of the west, but we got 90% of the toe rail finished, the backstay tang mounted, and finished up a few other small jobs.
17 days to the measurement deadline.
Launch Day Looming!
Launch day is tomorrow! Because we share a crane and launch as a group at RYC, we have no leeway on when we go in. Launch was already delayed two weeks by bad weather. Since the last report, a lot has been accomplished, despite cold and often rainy weather:
- The topsides are painted. Levelling the patch on the starboard side was tough work. I didn't even know you could buy 20 grit paper for a long board!
- The pulpits have been welded and are installed
- The beautiful navigation station and ice box lid created by Gary Gochal is installed
- Half of the toe rail is installed
- The bottom is painted
- The new windows are installed
- The steering pedestal is installed
- The measurer has done all the on shore measurements for the mast, new rudder, etc.
- The mast is ready to be stepped (except for mounting the butt plate in the boat).
Before we go into the water tomorrow, the following jobs need to be completed:
- The engine needs to be put in the boat, mounted, and connected to the shaft and V-drive (we can hook up the rest of the stuff later
- We need to wet sand the bottom (guess what the crew is doing on their Friday night!)
- The quadrant needs to be installed and the steering connected
- We'd like to finish installing the toe rails (not absolutely essential, but easier to do on shore).
- Most important…Pete don't forget to fill that drain hole you drilled!
Twenty days to the measurement deadline! And, yes, we have asked the Bermuda Race Organizing Committee for an extension to the measurement deadline under the recent amendment to the Notice of Race! Hopefully we won't need it.
Update as of 3/31/14….
Sinn Fein Resurrection Blog, 3/31
Kelly Robinson
52 days and counting to the measurement deadline!
As anyone in the East can attest to, it's been a long winter. Even in late March, it's been too cold on most days to apply filler or paint. Make no mistake, team Sinn Fein is fighting the clock. The boat is currently housed in a temporary structure consisting of a tubular aluminum frame covered by a synthetic tarp. You may have seen similar structures on farms to house machinery, or in some boatyards. I affectionately call it "the Hilton." It's big, allowing a person to walk around (a bit stooped over) on top of the boat while it is on the trailer. There are about two and a half feet of clearance on each side, and maybe five total feet of extra length beyond the hull. Despite our hope that we could heat the space, it has proven impractical (and probably dangerous). But when the sun comes out it warms up significantly.
The Hilton is big enough that it falls under building regulations of the City of Perth Amboy, NJ. Originally, they wanted it down by March 30th, but have kindly extended that a week. If we don't get the painting completed while the shelter is up, it could be weeks before we get weather warm and dry enough get the topsides done. The forecast is for warming this week. We can only hope.
Fortunately, fiberglass is easier to apply in cold weather than paint. The hole in the hull is completely closed and almost completely faired. It still needs final fairing, barrier coat, and a topcoat. Overall, the patch extends approximately 20 feet along the starboard side. The actual hole was much smaller, but the extensive overlap is done to increase the strength of the patch. In the middle, the patch extends from about two feet below the waterline to about 6 inches below the shear. The port side of the boat is ready for primer and then final painting.
Mark Rebovich has also been busy repairing the deck-to-hull joint. It was only compromised in a few places, but he took the opportunity to improve upon the original construction of the boat. At the transom, the original construction had minimal (as little as one-quarter of an inch) overlap of the deck and hull flange, with much of the strength coming from the toe rail. Mark laid in a lot of fiberglass to create a much stronger connection. Elsewhere he has cleaned out the broken up 50-year old bondo that originally glued the deck to the hull flange. He then rebonded the seam and doubled the number of bolts through the flange.
The two short bulkheads at the back of the pilot berth and the forward end of the quarter berth on the starboard side have been replaced. They look so nice we may have to re-varnish the rest of the wood in the boat. It could ruin our image! Krista McCaffery, is also working hard painting the interior of the boat, which should really brighten up the inside.
The navigation station and icebox were ruined when the jackstand came through the hull. Tabbing their replacements in will be one of the last fiberglass jobs. We have reduced the size of the ice box to allow more room for the nav area. Crew member Gary Gochal is building the new nav station and promises that we'll actually be able to sit with our legs underneath. The old seat hung from the overhead something like a trapeze…and required the same amount of skill to master in rough seas!
The very last fiberglass job (we hope!) should be reinstalling the vertical supports on the interior of the hull that hold the decorative mahogany strakes over the main cabin bunks. Once that is done we can start a major cleaning of the boat.
Gary also has milled a new toe rail for the boat that we are hoping to install in the next week or so. Like so many other boats in New Jersey, all the stanchions were destroyed and had to be replaced after Sandy. We mounted the stanchion bases this weekend… well, almost all of them. Typical of dealing with an old boat, we are still looking for one last stanchion base that will match the others. The "new" (i.e., scrounged) bow and stern pulpits have been sent out to the welder to be modified to fit the boat.
The winch pocket on the starboard side of the cockpit had to be reconstructed. This is done, and no, they did not add any drink holders. The new cabin windows have been cut and drilled and are ready to install. We've left them out for now so they don't get scratched up with all the construction going on.
Kevin Le Compte has gone through all the wiring on the boat checking for breaks and corrosion, cutting and recrimping ends as necessary. Pete had previously tested the electronics and instruments to see if they would power up. They seem to be OK, but we are counting on doing the Stamford-Block Island Race to test everything in racing conditions.
Pete has acquired a used engine for the boat that is identical to the original. It has been tested, but is not yet installed.
A used rudder of more modern design was purchased from Steve Waterloo, a Cal 40 owner in California. It has been installed with new bushings manufactured by Gary Gochal. They need just a bit of tweaking, but this should be a big improvement over the old rudder. We still need to install the pedestal and reconnect the steering.
Perhaps the biggest single job left is to rig the mast—which is still on a truck coming across country. Spar maker Buzz Ballenger has cut the holes for us and provided the spreaders and electrical conduit, but we still need to add the hardware, rigging, and electrical. This is Peter junior's job.
Well that's about it. We'll try to keep everyone posted as our deadlines get closer. Thanks for all your support!