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Masha Lopatova (Andrei Kirilenko's wife): I just wanted to let everybody know that I am absolutely fine with Andrei not playing tonite. The only thing I personally want is for #brooklynnets # to win. I apologize if I hurt anybody by posting a quote from Nellys song. Haha, journalism in this country sucks #dailynews# I was just trying to be witty but I failed))) but I guess I have some stupid talent for creating media attention. Peace! Instagram
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Brooklyn Nets forward Andrei Kirilenko said he was "a little bit surprised" that he did not play in Game 1 on Saturday. But Kirilenko, who reiterated that he is healthy, was understanding of coach Jason Kidd's decision to sit him. "I was a little bit surprised. But to be honest, when I watched the game everybody played so well," Kirilenko told ESPNNewYork.com on Sunday. "I didn't even see a position for me to fill-in because Terrence Ross obviously got two quick fouls, [DeMar] DeRozan didn't have a great game and they played a small lineup with Kyle Lowry, [Greivis] Vasquez and even [Nando] de Colo at three and two big guys, so [there] wasn't really a place for me on the floor, to be honest." ESPN.com
Kirilenko's wife, Masha Lopatova, did not appear to be too happy that her husband was not playing. She posted an Instagram photo of Kirilenko sitting on the bench accompanied by the comment " ... And you are Kidding like Jason ..." That could be a reference to a lyric in the song "Hot in Herre" by Nelly, where the rapper says, "I'm just kiddin' like Jason." She later wrote to fans: "I don't want to say anything bad, but just think about 350 million Russian fans back in Russia cheering for the one Russian player in the playoffs (not to mention Russian community and Russian ownership) that hurts!!!" Asked about his wife's comments, Kirilenko said, "She wanted me to play. I spoke with her, and she said she was surprised but she's a fan." ESPN.com
One of the big surprises to come out of the Nets' 94-87 victory over the Raptors in Game 1 of their best-of-seven first round series was the fact super sub Andrei Kirilenko never got off the bench for Brooklyn. It appears his wife, Russian pop singer Masha Lopatova, was just as surprised as everyone else. On her Instagram account after the game, Lopatova tweeted out a picture of her husband sitting on the bench with the comment, "…And you are Kidding like Jason…" which appeared to be a reference to Nelly's song, "Hot in Herre" which includes the line, "I'm just kiddin' like Jason." As fans and others began to comment on the photo, Lopatova later wrote, "I don't want to say anything bad, but just think about 350 million Russian fans back in Russia cheering for the one Russian player in the playoffs (not to mention Russian community and Russian ownership) that hurts!!!" New York Post
Bloomberg reports that Russian native Andrei Kirilenko is bringing five "Hooters" restaurants to Moscow. Kirilenko said "the biggest challenge will be overcoming the notion that it's a strip bar." ESPN.com
Andrei Kirilenko, the National Basketball Association player known as AK-47, is defying Russian antipathy toward U.S. brands by opening the country's first Hooters restaurant. Kirilenko, who plays for billionaire Mikhail Prokhorov's Brooklyn Nets, said the first of five restaurants he plans to build in Moscow will open April 28 under a franchisee agreement with Hooters of America Inc., the chain best known for the skimpy tank tops worn by its waitresses. Sydney Morning Herald
The Brooklyn Nets say Kevin Garnett is hoping to return from a back injury next weekend or during their trip to Florida on April 8-9. Also, Andrei Kirilenko is progressing from his sprained left ankle and is hoping to return in the middle of next week, the Nets said before their game against Minnesota on Sunday. Garnett has missed 16 straight games with back spasms, last playing Feb. 27 in a victory at Denver. The Nets have games next Friday and Saturday nights, then visit Miami on April 8 and Orlando the following night. USA Today Sports
The Brooklyn Nets say Kevin Garnett is hoping to return from a back injury next weekend or during their trip to Florida on April 8-9. Also, Andrei Kirilenko is progressing from his sprained left ankle and is hoping to return in the middle of next week, the Nets said before their game against Minnesota on Sunday. USA Today Sports
Kevin Garnett will miss his 15th straight game because of back spasms, and the Brooklyn Nets also will be without Andrei Kirilenko against Cleveland on Friday night. Kirilenko will sit out a third consecutive game with a sprained left ankle. The reserve forward missed 26 games earlier this season with back spasms, an injury that has now kept Garnett sidelined for about a month. USA Today Sports
What do you think about the Jazz honoring coach Jerry Sloan and putting his name in the rafters? Andrei Kirilenko: They should have done it a long time ago. He definitely deserves it. Coach Sloan, Karl Malone, John Stockton ... that's a huge era for Jazz basketball and it definitely needs to be shown here in Salt Lake City. I give huge credit to Utah. It's always been a team who really worried about team chemistry, being a family, rather than just teammates. The tradition continues. Of course it's a little bit different, but all the memories are still there. Deseret News
Stefan Bondy: Andrei Kirilenko says he's ready to play tomorrow. Nets are 12-5 with him. NetsDaily
Mike Mazzeo: Kirilenko went for an MRI today Kidd said #Nets Twitter @MazzESPN
Commissioner David Stern, who is in the final year of a 30-year reign, has even opined about a permanent European presence. To hear Nets players consider the subject this week, it sounds plausible—with a few notable caveats. "I think Europe deserves to have an NBA team, but it's impossible logistics, traveling," said Nets forward and Russian native Andrei Kirilenko. "It has to be the whole division here," he continued, echoing Stern's vision of a five-team European division. "It has to be a lot of teams here. It's not going to be possible if it's only one team playing in Europe and traveling all the way to U.S., playing and coming back." Wall Street Journal
"We're spending the majority of our time sitting," said forward Andrei Kirilenko. "That's the problem. You're sitting on the plane, you're sitting on the bus—especially with being tall. Look at [Garnett]. The guy is seven feet tall and, whatever, 40 years old. He has to travel that much then he has to get to the floor. It's just tough to prepare yourself after that." Wall Street Journal
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"christianity: god hates fags"
Way to make a broad, ignorant statement about a religion without knowing anything about it at all.
First off, that whole "god hates fags" bullshit is from westboro baptist church. IT IS IN NO WAY AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH AS A WHOLE. Can we please stop assuming that all Christians hate homosexuality? Like really.
Tumblr claims to be so "forward" and "progressive," but they still have these stupid rockhead beliefs about religion and people who practice it. "You're Christian? Oh, you have to be a white male who hates homosexuality!1! Lol let's go make fun of Christians because they believe in a bearded man in the sky!! Christians believe in a higher power, they must be idiots. I believe in science!!" (those are honest to God things I've seen posted on this website.)
Second, Christianity isn't even that hardcore of a religion. You maintain a spiritual connection, be a good person, do good things, and that's about it. You're not forced into anything.
Third, what the fuck is wrong with loving and respecting others?? Honestly. It's called not being a fucking baby. Grow up.
Stupid posts like these give Christians a bad name. It's cool if you're not religious. Frankly, I don't care. But don't make these broad, hateful statements about my religion just to make us look bad in favor of your beliefs (or lack of). I don't like you making up shit about my religion, and I'm NOT ok with it.
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FAT. I've added yet another station to my collection of QSOs with stations whose callsigns spell words. WA4FAT, who subscribes to my tip-of-the-week mailing list, volunteered to work me and did so on 40m this last week. Now, I'm waiting for the card.
Two nice ragchews. Last night, I had a couple of nice ragchews. The first was with Bill, WB4DB0. I've worked him several times, and it's always been a nice conversation. Last night, I mentioned that I was going to a Civil War re-enactment on Monday, and as it turns out, he used to be a big Civil War buff.
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During the course of our QSO, I mentioned that I'd written some study guides. This morning, I receive an e-mail from him. He says, "Great to meet you. Got curious about your study guides, so I looked in my folder of ham stuff on my computer, and sure enough, the ones my bro had sent me a couple of years ago were yours. High five on that effort. Very nice guides." It's nice to make connections like that.
Newbies on 2m. Possibly the silliest situation we have in amateur radio is that nearly all newcomers buy 2m handhelds only to find that they can't hit that many repeaters, there aren't that many guys on 2m anymore, and the old farts that are on 2m won't talk to them, anyway.
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Last night, I did just that. Shortly after turning on the rig, I heard "KD8YQZ listening." I was putzing around with something and thought about not calling him back, but then decided that whatever it was I was doing, was certainly not important enough to not talk to this guy.
As it turned out, Tom had just passed the test at Dayton last Saturday, and his callsign appeared in the FCC database on Tuesday. How cool is that?
Shortly after we started talking Todd, KD8WPX, broke in and we started a round-robin QSO. These were two younger guys, and not only were they interested in amateur radio, but also in the local "maker" groups. I was able to point them in the right direction on both counts.
It was also an "Elmer" moment. I taught the about the courtesy tone and about round-robin QSOs. I hope that it was as positive an experience for both of those guys as it was for me.
What I want you to take away from this is that you should turn the radio on when you're in your shack or out in the garage, and monitor the repeaters. Not only that, return the call when you hear someone come on. If you don't, I don't want to hear any complaints from you about how there's no 2m activity anymore or how ham radio is getting to be just a bunch of old guys.


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My Take: Lowell 3, Merrimack 1
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NORTH ANDOVER — Merrimack College dropped a 3-1 decision to Lowell on Sunday evening at Lawler Arena in North Andover. The Warriors, 0-4-1 in their last five games, will wrap up the regular season next weekend with a home-and-home series with UMass. The Warriors can still host a Hockey East quarterfinal series, although the possibility of that seems less likely after this weekend. Merrimack is three points out of a home-ice spot with two games (4 points) left to play.
Hitting the snooze: Merrimack seemed to sleepwalk through the first 30 or 35 minutes of the game. By the time the Warriors really got involved, the River Hawks already held a 3-0 lead.
Lowell's first goal was the product of a man down the wall throwing a puck on net and Josh Holmstrom sneaking out from behind Rasmus Tirronen and deflecting the shot through the five hole. A few minutes later, Holmstrom stood at the top of the crease and had the time and space to tip a Scott Wilson shot and then whack away at the loose puck in front before putting it past Tirronen.
Pick your poison: Scoring has been the obviously issue for the Warriors, as they've potted just six goals in their last five games (0-4-1) since beating Boston College in overtime more than two weeks ago. But perhaps a larger struggle has again been Merrimack's play on the defensive zone. Blaming just the defensemen isn't fair. All around, Merrimack's team defense, especially in their own end, has been lackluster at best the past two weeks.
Lineup changes: Interesting lineup changes for the Warriors on Sunday, with Rasmus Tirronen starting in goal for the first time since Jan. 11 and Brandon Brodhag was in the lineup for the first time since Dec. 29. Merrimack head coach Mark Dennehy declined to comment on the changes postgame. The one thing I found interesting about the changes was that two seniors were inserted into the lineup. To me, that's sending the message that it's "their" team and they were given a shot to try to steer the ship around. As for the change in goal, it could be as simple as the Warriors' schedule, having played four games in eight nights. Or, it could be that the coaching staff was unhappy with the effort level of late, and didn't want to "sacrifice," for lack of a better term, Marotta, who has probably been Merrimack's best player since January.
When asked if he could elaborate on the lineup changes postgame, Dennehy played it close to the vest, saying, "No. You have to ask the question, but no."
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djohn December 2, 2013 @ 3:42 PM
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Putting system together - pump selection helpLast time I built a complete hydronic system was 5 years ago so I would appreciate if you helped me refresh my knowledge a little bit and give an update of what is being used in 2013.
About 1,500sqf per floor: basement and 2 stories, well insulated (total heat loss about 52k BTU or 67k BTU using energy ). Big unknowns are how much additional heatloss happens through the drive under garage (part of the basement, 2 loops) and through stone foundation (some of it are interior basement walls).
To be safe, and compensate for coming global cooIing (ha!), I figured that Lochinvar Knight WHN155 is my thing (30BTU/sqf end up being 135k BTUs - around what this model is rated for) It will be field converted to LP. It's my first dip in the firetube design since I used mostly NTI before.
I plan on 1 zone per level. There are 6 loops already embedded in the basement slab and 1st and 2nd story will likely have 7-9 loops each. It's going to be joist trak install, with 1/2" durock and 1/2" travertine on top of 3/4" OSB subfloor. Obviously insulated, thinking about R-19.
There is more reading I have to on Lochinvar itself but I would plan of primary / secondary piping and zones operated by circulators, wired through Taco relay panel.
The main question I have would be the circulator selection. Lochinvar mentions "boiler pump" (with provided Grundfos UPS26-99FC) and "system pump". Always been a Taco guy but it looks like their ECM pump selection is non-existent for residential.
1. Should I use provided Grundfos pump for boiler/primary pump or pick something else? Variable speed viable here? What makes and models?
2. By "system pump" I reckon Lochinvar meant pump that would work with zone valves - and I would be using zone pumps. It looks like Taco 007 would be my choice here, what other options do I have? Makes sense to go variable speed? ECM?
I am pretty sure i don't need anything else like outdoor resets, etc. since all the work will be done by the boiler itself and then controls - 3 Ecobee thermostats.
Any help and advice is greatly appreciated.
Zman December 2, 2013 @ 4:45 PM
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Heat lossYou should be able to do an accurate heat loss on your other floors. It would make your boiler sizing a bit more accurate. My guess is that the 155 is a bit big and the 110 a bit small. The point may be moot.
You absolutely want to pipe primary/secondary per the manual.
As for circulators, the boiler circ should not be a 26-99. A grundfos 15-58 or taco 007 is more than enough. More is not better with mod/cons.
For the secondary, I have great luck with the grundfos alpha with zone valves and radiant.
The Alpha is a delta p ecm circ that has a nice curve for most radiant systems.
The curve on the 007 is a bit flat for radiant applications.
If you are doing an indirect, It wants to be priority with it's own circ.
djohn December 2, 2013 @ 5:56 PM
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heatloss doneGoddamnit, I just typed up entire reply and it didn't post for some reason. Have to start from scratch.
I did pretty accurate heatloss calc and came with 52k BTU pure heatloss for the whole house, 85k BTU including propane caloric deration and 90k BTU including boiler efficiency (95%). So 95k BTU input + unknown heatloss through the foundation and drive under garage. Next unit down wouldn't work so WHN155 it is, I guess. 135k BTU input. And should be safe, with 5:1 turndown.
Now, more about my design.
All loops will be 1/2", full 300' rolls. Coming to 1" manifolds - 6 loops in basement, guessing 8 for 1st floor and 9 2nd floor. So about 23 loops total.
At 125k BTU input from the boiler, it would be 3 equal zones at ~40k BTU each = 4GPM in each zone. 0.66GPM, 0.5GPM, 0.44GPM per loop in each zone. Using Nibco oxy barrier pex, with pressure drop at 0.016 per 1GPM. Please correct me, but I am calculating about between 2 and 3ft of head. Seems low.
Being mod/con, I want to take advantage of it, so system will definitely run below 130F return temp. Not sure what exactly for slab and what for insulated joist trak. Have to dig out Siggy's book and do the calculations.
And yes, you are correct on what comes with the boiler. My bad. It is 15-58. I have zero experience with Grundfos though. Being Taco 007 equivalent, does it mean my system would have all 007 pumps? 1 primary and 3 zone?
Back to my questions:
1. For the primary pump - is that Grundfos a good solution, or should I look into variable speed pumps? If so, which ones? Delta-T? Delta-P?
2. For the zone pumps - I just discovered Bumblebee by Taco. Being similar rating to 007 and also being delta-T, is this my dream solution for zones? Or are there better ways? Good solution for primary pump?
3. If I end up with variable speed zone pumps, do I still need a mixing valve for my slab zone? I am still not sure how different my design temps will be between slab and insulated joist trak.
hot rod December 2, 2013 @ 6:13 PM
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a small bufferwith multiple connection points instead of P/S is another option. The tank replaces the close tees and offers dirt, air, separation, and a nice port to insert the boiler sensor.
unless the required temperatures are more then 20° apart, one temperature is fine.
the Delta P circs are a nice match, zone with valves.
I like the Alpha, Xylem, Wilo, and now the Armstrong Compass are all good options.
djohn December 5, 2013 @ 3:04 AM
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Hydrolink?Are you referring to something like Hydrolink hydraulic separator?
Wouldn't it require a P/S piping and zone pumps?
djohn December 2, 2013 @ 7:14 PM
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variable speed vs single speedWould a Bumblebee be better off as primary/boiler pump?
Then regular 007's for zone pumps?
Otherwise, not sure how the logic would work out between:
- mod/con boiler (changing fire rate)
- VS primary pump
- 3x VS zone pumps.
Endless adjusting loop?
Also, could Bumblebee be used in single speed in zone pump application, just to take an advantage of the ECM efficiency? It's probably the least expensive ECM pump.
hot rod December 2, 2013 @ 10:19 PM
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My opinionis that any ECM circ will be more efficient at moving the load, if that is one of your goals.
I'm not convinced a fixed delta t is desirable or advantageous on the boiler loop with a modulating, reset controlled boiler.
If you want a modulating boiler with a modulating circ, I believe Viessmann is the only "off the shelf" option.
The output for the VS boiler pump is on many of the boiler controls, but a US version of a circ to easily adapt to that signal is not quite on the shelves. An interface module is available for the Wilo, but the total cost gets a bit high.
However it is a common circ in the Euro market and when them numbers work out, expect to see the 120V version. I have a few samples of these circs built to OEM specs. Solar specific, ECM, PWM models including drainback versions. If you have 230V available you can find these circ online from UK and other sites and build up your own V/S boiler circ.
If one small 45W ECM circ can easily handle the entire distribution load, and dial itself in to the optimum flow rate, why would you want numerous zone circs?
Delta P circs were designed to efficiently move the load and adapt to an ever-changing flow requirement. They are a perfect match for zone valves or TRVs , why re-invent the wheel, or impeller :)
Personally I'd like to see a few tweaks to the BB before I consider it an equal to the other small ECM brands currently available. From my experience in fixed speed operation it is too noisey. In this day and age a circ should be run virtually noise frees. With only indicator lights or flow meters indicating flow. Decibel levels should not be in the same sentence with high efficient wet rotor ECM circ discussions.
I'd like to see delta p option included in the menu. Lastly the motor should be able to be rotated so the display is always right side up and easily viewed, and programed, regardless of mounting position.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 12:23 PM
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what mode?"I'm not convinced a fixed delta t is desirable or advantageous on the boiler loop with a modulating, reset controlled boiler"
What mode should ECM/VS circ used at then?
And what would be a good make/model choice?
WHN155 shows 4.26 ft of head at 15GPM and lists Taco 007 as recommended circ.
Zman December 2, 2013 @ 11:40 PM
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Like he said...Hot Rod is right on the money on the ecms.
On your radiant side, check out these design manuals from uponer https://www.uponorpro.com/Technical-Support/Manuals.aspx
If you design your panels to run at approximately the same temp, just run a single ecm delta p circulator and zone valves with one temperature curve and voila,you have a simple, comfortable system. Keep it simple!
If you take a circ like the alpha and set it to constant pressure mode, you will always have the correct flow of water using the least amount electricity.
Taco is a fine company. They just don't have the best product for your application.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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delta p vs delta tFrom what I understand WHN155 can control variable speed boiler/primary pump.
And yes, efficiency is one of my goals, even if ECM pump is not being used in variable speed mode.
In circulator operated zones (so 1 primary + 3 zone pumps), are you saying that:
- Aplha (delta p) is better suited for boiler/primary pump than Bumblebee (delta t)?
- Aplha (delta p) is better suited for zone pump than Bumblebee (delta t)?
I thought that Alpha is meant for zone valve and TRV systems as the system pump only (not boiler pump)
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 10:47 AM
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Primary pumplook for a Taco VVF pump, which can accept the 0-10V control signal from the WHN.
Speaking of which, I missed the part where a 155k boiler was a good idea for a heat loss of "52k BTU or 67k." If it were my house, I'd probably take another look at the heat loss and see if I could make a WHN-055 work. Certainly no larger than a WHN-085 for that.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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heatlossHeatloss called for 90K input based on propane caloric deration and boiler efficiendcy. WHN155 is 125K input and modulates 5:1.
That 90K heatloss doesn't include unknowns as drive under garage and stone wall partitioned foundation (couldn't insulate under) and some exposed perimeter stone foundation (has just R-5 outside and nothing under).
So one would say that the boiler with it's input modulating between 25k and 125k BTU would fit a 90k BTU (+ some) load on 3 level house
Could only found some brief reference to 0012F-WF pump, not on Taco website and doesn't look like right one for my application.
Jean-David Beyer December 3, 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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My former heating contractor said that too. He is FORMER for reasons.Oversizing a mod-con is usually a very bad idea. I calculated out the heat loss of my house, when it was 0F outside at about 30,000 BTU/hour. And design temperature around here is 14F. My former heating contractor suggested a 105,000 BTU/hour boiler to be "on the safe side." He said it would modulate down to 21,000 BTU/hour so it would be OK.
That is nuts. I got the smallest boiler in the product line (80,000 BTU/hr input) that goes down to 16,000 BTU/hour. And that is no where near low enough. Since most mod-cons have turn down ratio of 5:1 or so, you will never get them to go down far enough at all times. And if it does not go down far enough, it will cycle, perhaps rapidly. And you do not want that. One zone needs 6250 BTU/hour when it is 0F outside. So if it is 50F outside, it needs even less. I wish mine would turn down to 1000 BTU/hour, but it doesn't.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 11:40 AM
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i agree, butI agree that grossly oversized boilers are not good, but again, my H/L is 90kBTU (plus some, could be 10-15kBTU) and WHN155 inputs 125kBTU. Next smaller model is 89kBTU input, which will not be enough, especially at below-design temps.
What really happens is I am trading off a min modulating input of 18kBTU (110 model) for 25kBTU (155 model) to make sure my 4 letters don't freeze in Wisconsin winter.
If it was a complete new construction, no drive under garage, no stone foundation partitions or walls, and I could fully control all aspects of this building, to guarantee a 90kBTU heatloss max, I would probably go for 89kBTU boiler.
Just too many unknowns to justify smaller boiler.
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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mod/con boiler sizingLook at the DOE output ratings for each model. WHL-085 puts out 79,000 BTU/hr. There is no derating for LPG. At one point your heat loss was 52k?
Remember that heat loss calculations already include a fudge factor (quite a bit larger than most would imagine based on my experience.)This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 12:32 PM.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 1:04 PM
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my xls worksheet sucks?Thanks for being persistant on this - I think there is something wrong with my heatloss calc xls file.
My xls heatloss worksheet shows 52k BTU heat loss.
Then, it shows 80% caloric deration for NG resulting in 64kBTU
And 95% boiler efficiency resulting in ~68k BTU
Also shows 60% caloric deration for LP resulting in 86kBTU (so you are saying it shouldn't be there?)
And 95% boiler efficiency resulting in ~90kBTU
As far as uninsulated stone walls and stone partitions - I played with the numbers.
As is, entire 1,634 sqf of basement at R-10 (2" F250 under slab) results in heatloss of 4,085 BTU.
Now, I calculated the area with stone partition walls and stone exterior foundation walls and it adds up to about 200 sqf (footprint area). So, if I use 200sqf at R-1 and
1,434 at R-10, the basement floor heatloss changes to over 17kBTU (from 4)
So here is one part of my unknown heatloss.
As is then, the total heatloss is ~66k BTU and the only unknown left is how much heat I lose through operation of garage doors in drive under garage.
Any idea how I could figure that out? Garage is 25x21ft, has R-10 floor, will be separated from the house by ~R-20 ceiling, 30ft of R-1 stone wall and 16 ft of ~R20 wall.
I don't expect the operation of garage doors to have major cooling effect on interior walls, but that space will have to be reheated (no thermostat in garage though) several times a day.
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 1:40 PM
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Too many adjustmentsGet rid of these:
80% caloric deration for NG resulting in 64kBTU And 95% boiler efficiency resulting in ~68k BTU
60% caloric deration for LP resulting in 86kBTU (so you are saying it shouldn't be there?) And 95% boiler efficiency resulting in ~90kBTU
And use the DOE Output numbers from the manufacturer together with the calculated heat loss.
What interior temp are you using for the basement? Does it reflect the intended occupancy (or lack thereof) for the basement? Is your ground temp correct?
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 1:49 PM
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basementI am looking for constant temp throughout the house, 70F.
Basement consists of some living space, storage space, mechanical room, garage. Garage obviously will be losing more heat when doors open, then warming up. There is also a large glass patio door on the walkout side.
This basement is an unknown area physically, really, since some of it is rubble stone foundation, some poured concrete, some concrete block. Some insulated, some not.
That's why 66kBTU heat loss I am coming with now is likely bigger.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 11:18 AM
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which boiler pumpJust to be clear, I am not disputing that Alpha is the right solution for single system pump when zones are activated by zone valves.
I have never built a system with zone valves. Never liked them and feel that zone pumps are more dependable. It's still an option though, maybe worth discussing.
So maybe let's do it step by step - boiler pump selection shouldn't be influenced by whether there will be 3 zone pumps or 1 system pump, right?
Which pump should I use for boiler pump? It looks like I need about 12GPM at 3-4ft of head max. Would like to go ECM way, whether it runs as variable speed or not - and I see why boiler pump could show it's full potential as VS, in both zone valve and zone pump systems.
WHN155 shows 15GPM at 4.26ft of head.
Taco 007 is listed as recommended boiler circulator.This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 12:21 PM.
hot rod December 3, 2013 @ 1:11 PM
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web searchthe pumps you are considering and see the pump curve. I "googled" Grundfos Alpha pump curve and this shows up.
Ideally the circ covers your load in the mid 1/3 of the curve. Don't select a circ that runs at the very top, or bottom of the curve, very in-efficient and un-healthy for the device.
Looks like speed 3 is the perfect setting if this is your circ choice.
Usually the boiler I&O manual shows pump requirement with a few different delta T choices.
The Grundfos and Wilo have the longest track record with small ECMs in our market.
The Xylem looks like a Laing design, good track record with that brand, probably fewer in the field here in the US. I like the two choices they offer, and the way the selector switch varies the speeds. The large brass nut for motor removal is quick and simple.
Just got an Armstrong Compass ECM, not installed yet but some nice installer friendly features.
At this point select the model that fits your application, deal with a company that you like and that stands behind the product.
They all circulate fluid just fine, failures are often caused by operator error, or harsh fluid conditions.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 1:32 PM
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good chartIt looks like because of errors - my own and in xls heatcalc, the real heatloss number is around 66k BTU plus 25x21 drive under garage (doors opening 4-6 times a day) so probably the correct choice would be WHN110 (89k BTU input, so about 20BTU/sqf).
It specifies boiler pump at 10GPM and 1.53 ft of head.
Like other Knights, it lists 0-10V signal to control variable speed boiler pump.
So to sum up, my options until now would be:
- Taco Bumblebee
- Grundfos Alpha
- Wilo Eco
(can't find armstrong compass, xylem and laing right now)
Looking at pump curves, Wilo seems like it barely fits the need and Alpha autoadapt feature starts above 4ft of head - would it mean I am down to Bumblebee for my boiler pump?This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 1:33 PM.
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 1:42 PM
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I would usea WHL-085 with a Taco 006-VVF4 pump.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 1:59 PM
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85You would really go 2 sizes down?
I think a 66kBTU heatloss is a rather low estimate right now. WHN110 gives me 89k BTU input and turndown all the way to 22kBTU. Which would be exactly 1/3rd load or 1 zone calling for heat.
WHN085 puts me at 69kBTU input, which is borderline to my possibly faulty and imperfect heatloss calc. Nice thing is another 5kBTU turndown - down to 17kBTU.
I already have 3" venting in place, as I was getting ready for 155 model. 085 calls for 2" venting and makes me even more uneasy about the choice. I have just digested a needed change to 1 model down :)
As far as boiler pump goes, Lochinvar lists 007 for all applications from 055 to 155 model.
Why 006, a non-ECM model? Motivated by 0-10V input? It looks like no ECM pump has it, but it can be dealt with by another controller unit or just set to work independently of the boiler - is that the worry? (logics between ECM VS pump and mod/con?)
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 1:58 PM
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Zone valvestry the Taco Zone Sentry. They use a ball valve design and only need 2VA.
If you have to use zone pumps, try the ecocirc e-series.This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 2:01 PM.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 2:03 PM
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zone valvesDo I sense a push towards this setup:
- Taco 006-VVF4 boiler pump
- Grundfos Alpha system pump
- 3x zone sentryvalves
I like the last 2 points, even though it would be my first time with zone valves.
Would feel better with 110 boiler. And would love ECM boiler pump.
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 2:11 PM
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Boiler pumpGiven that the WHL has a 0-10V output for the boiler pump, I'd recommend the VVF even though it's not an ECM. I hope we see some options over here soon -- direct control of the pump speed by the boiler's internal controls is by far the best arrangement.
I try to minimize or even eliminate zoning wherever practical. Crank your thermostats all the way up (really, like 90ºF) and then spend some time dialing in your reset curve and balancing flow throughout the system. After that's done (which could take several weeks; be patient) set the stats 2-3ºF above the desired room temp and they will act as high limit controls.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 2:29 PM
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0-10VI thought there is a way to wire a 0-10V output from the boiler with the ECM pump, using another component. I could swear I read something about it either in some pump or boiler literature.
If that gets pricey, what about depending on ECM pump's logic?
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 2:58 PM
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0-10V control inputsAre available on the larger (Magna, Stratos, Viridian) models but not on the "residential" models. Again, I REALLY wish we had an option for this, along with some smaller ECM circs (all of which have curves roughly equivalent to that of a 008.)
The internal controls of a ∆P pump will not play nice with a modulating boiler. The internal controls on a ∆T pump should work, but we've seen enough problems reported here that I hesitate to recommend them (plus, the 008 curve matches quite poorly with a low resistance HX.)This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 3:01 PM.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 3:02 PM
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costAnd I can only concur, especially after looking at 00-VV series pricing. Holy smokes!
Do you really think it's a better solution than running a Bumblebee as a boiler pump?
...at over 2x the cost
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 3:26 PM
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flangesCan't find 6 and 7 model of 00-VV with 1" flange options. Crazy expensive too :(
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 2:10 PM
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head lossSince I am not home right now and we are talking about another boiler, can you help me figure out my head?
WHN110 boiler, calling for 10GPM at 1.53ft of head. Not sure about boiler pump yet.
300ft loops of 1/2" pex. 6 port, 8 port, 9 port manifolds. (guessing last 2)
Still debating 3 zone pumps vs single Alpha with zone valves.
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 2:17 PM
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Head losson the firetube HX is essentially zero. Looking at the 35ºF chart, I see 0.37 ft of head at 5 GPM. I sincerely doubt the entire circuit will exceed 1 ft. Turndown on those VVF pumps is 300:1 according to Taco, but the 006 is the smallest cast iron model you can buy. They do offer a 003 VVF in bronze or stainless, but no unions as far as I know, so replacing them in the field gets tough.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 2:38 PM
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headLochinvar literature mentions 1.53ft of head on boiler loop (at 10GPM) That looks to be well below Wilo's curve and outside of Alpha's autoadapt area.
I was wondering about actual head past:
- the zone pump
- or past the system pump (should be close I think)This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 2:39 PM.
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 3:03 PM
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Pick your ∆P favoriteand drop the primary-secondary, pump it straight through the HX. One pump for the whole system.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 3:24 PM
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no P/SNo P/S? You sir, just started a revolution in my brain.
First no zone pumps, now no P/S piping? :)
Since there is only 1 Alpha (delta p) - it has to work, right?
It is supposed to handle different loads of zone combinations better than delta t thermostat, right? (like Bumblebee)
Should I still do a detailed head loss calc?
WHN110 and other Lochinvars still advice P/S piping. Am I safe without it?
Never done it like that, so asking :)
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 3:48 PM
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new threadI think I should start a new thread since you just gave a whole new spin to my problem :)
Assuming my design will look similar to this page off Lochinvar manual (except for DHW zone):
New pending questions will be:
- no low loss header or hydraulic separator needed?
- differential pressure bypass valve recommended?
- Y strainer? (never used it with NTI)
- how much of temp difference can zone valves handle? (slab vs R-19'd joist trak)
- what model of zone valves?
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 6:45 PM
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Direct pumpingIf you read carefully, you will see that direct pumping is approved.
No need for a bypass valve if you use a ∆P circ.
Taco claims a Bumble Bee will work even better. I can see circumstances where it might produce lower return temps, but but I haven't tried one.
Still need to do a head loss, but the majority of residential jobs will work with that curve.
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headYes, I found direct piping diagram. P/S piping is still the golden standard for pretty much all manufacturers, correct?
I was just thinking about point of exact head loss, since there is only one Bumblebee and one Alpha model. Unless you mean to be able to choose between them to better fit the curve.
Since we changed the subject so much, I started a new thread.This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 6:56 PM.
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Primary/secondary pipingit pretty much mandatory with the high head loss of most mod/cons. It allows you to run a different ∆T on the boiler and the emitters (particularly helpful with radiant floors.)
It also reduces the chance of a clueless installer killing the boiler. Combine that with lawyers and you see where significant portions of installation manuals originate.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 7:08 PM
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singleTrue, but then WHN110 has only 1.53ft of head loss at 10GPM and entire system head loss is probably around 4-5ft.
For pure simplistic approach, I love the idea of single pump.
SWEI December 3, 2013 @ 7:41 PM
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Fire-tube heat exchangers are differentTheir low head loss allows greater flexibility in system design, even to the point of moderate knuckleheading. They also save on pumping costs, tolerate hard water somewhat better, and seem to need less frequent maintenance.
Pioneered by Triangle Tube about a decade ago, they are now available from many boiler manufacturers (including Lochinvar.)
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knuckleheadingKnuckleheading... tell me more about it :)
I just did 180' on my original plans, ha!
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headAs I won't be home for couple more days and have access to Siggy's book, could you verify my numbers on the head loss?
1.53ft of boiler and I am getting another 3.1ft of the remaining system. Not sure if that's right.
Using Uponor's table, I am coming with:
- 3.4ft of head in zone 1 (slab, 6 loops)
- 2.3ft of head in zone 2 (joist trak, 7 loops)
- 2ft of head in zone 3 (joist rak, 8 loops)
If that is correct, then 3.4ft of distribution head plus 1.5ft of boiler head = ~5ft of head for entire system.
Looking at Alpha and Bumblebee - 10GPM at 5ft of head and:
- Alpha is barely in autoadapt zone. Close to 2nd speed curve
- Bumblebee is almost at the highest speed
Any additional insights on pump selection because of system head?This post was edited by an admin on December 3, 2013 8:40 PM.
djohn December 3, 2013 @ 9:36 PM
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wiringAlso, any specifics on wiring Alpha vs Bumblebee?
Mark Eatherton December 4, 2013 @ 9:22 AM
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I don't see anything for distribution system piping….and it MUST also be taken into consideration.
Calculate it at worst case (maximum) flow scenarios. And add it to the mini tube loss and boiler loss.
MEIt's not so much a case of "You got what you paid for", as it is a matter of "You DIDN'T get what you DIDN'T pay for, and you're NOT going to get what you thought you were in the way of comfort". Borrowed from Heatboy.
djohn December 5, 2013 @ 2:15 AM
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manifoldI plan on 1" boiler piping and 6, 7, 8 port manifolds to 1/2" 300ft pex loops.
Haven't decided on exact manifold brand and model. I have used RHT in the past. Looked at RHT, Rifeng and Caleffi ($$$) too. I like to have temp gauges, air vents and flow meters in my manifold. For some reason you have to go to 1-1/4" Caleffi model to have temp gauges, which is ridiculous.
Still debating SS vs brass for manifolds.
Pughie December 4, 2013 @ 8:57 AM
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Hydronic Design Studio II"Siggy's Hydronic Design Studio II - Hydronic Circuit Simulator section is a very useful tool for estimating head loss & for pump selection. I've used it for some time now & find it to be quite accurate. I believe Hot Rod & Mark E are familiar with it. I believe there is a free trial use of it on his web site - hydronicpros.com
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thanksThanks for advice. Gonna check it out, dust off the CD of Siggy's book and look into newest Taco software too.


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