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In calling for a longer school day, President Obama and Secretary of Education Arne Duncan cite the lagging US performance in international tests. "Now, I know longer school days and school years are not wildly popular ideas. Not with Malia and Sasha, not in my family, and probably not in yours. But the challenges of a new century demand more time in the classroom," said President Obama
The president wants schools to add time to classes, to stay open late and to let kids in on weekends so they have a safe place to go. (I once attended a conference highlighting cities that decided it was idiotic to keep school buildings closed for the summers, holidays and on weekends. They use the schools as community centers when classes are not in session. )
"Our school calendar is based upon the agrarian economy and not too many of our kids are working the fields today," Education Secretary Arne Duncan said in a recent interview with The Associated Press.
The AP notes that while it is true that kids in many other countries have more school days, it's not true they all spend more time in school. Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore the U.S. on math and science tests — Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050), Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days) than does the U.S. (180 days).
However, many schools report success after extending the time students spend in core classes. The AP story cites searcher Tom Loveless of the Brookings Institution, who looked at scores in countries that added math instruction time. Scores rose significantly, especially in countries that added minutes to the day, rather than days to the year. "Ten minutes sounds trivial to a school day, but don't forget, these math periods in the U.S. average 45 minutes," Loveless said. "Percentage-wise, that's a pretty healthy increase."
The premise of KIPP charter schools is that their kids are behind, so their day iso three hours longer than the typical school day. They go to school every other Saturday and for three weeks in the summer.
I would be delighted to see a longer school day. How about you?
September 28th, 2009
11:39 am
Longer school YEAR? sure. More school DAYS? Of course.
Longer school day? I don't think so. It's a long enough day for elementary students. And they NEED the time for relaxation, free play, homeworkd and extra curriculars.
September 28th, 2009
11:40 am
It's quality of education, not quantity. That, and students as it is are already in classes for up to an hour and a half a day, and by that time, their attention spans are shot.
The only good thing I can see about it is that kids'll maybe get home at the same time as their parents, not before. But, they'll have less time for homework, sports, extra curriculars, and just being kids.
September 28th, 2009
11:44 am
I agree to longer days for middle thru High schools, but elementary I am wavering. It could work with elementary if they allow a 1 hour nap time around 12 (after lunch) and then allot 1 hour for play or recess. Children need play added to the cirriculum anyway, not enought in the schools.
September 28th, 2009
12:00 pm
If it's mandatory, heck no! If it's voluntary or based on achievement level, i.e. only required for kids who are not on grade level.. then OK.
The problem is that I can provide much better extracurricular activities than my school can. I can provide much better travel/educational opportunities than my school can. My kids are waaaaaaay above grade level with just 180 days of school that are about 6-7 hours long. They do not need more time in public school learning a bunch of stuff that they knew a year ago.
If kids are failing, or if their parents want to send them to school all day long, every day of the year, then let them. However, if I want to pull my kids out for the summer to attend summer camp or go on a trip abroad, I should be able to do that.
I'm afraid that if our friend Arne gets his way, public schools will lose most families that have the means to pull their kids out. Most of these families are the ones with a parent who has the time to volunteer at school and the disposable income to contribute to school in a meaningful way. Their kids tend to be the higher achieving kids. But…. go ahead, Arne, run them all off.. then maybe the teachers won't have to differentiate so much.
September 28th, 2009
12:01 pm
i disagree with longer days at achool due to students that are 18 years old or 17 years old have jobs and live out on their own and have to pay bills well they want be able to if they have to go to school longer during the day. and students already has classes for up to on hour and a half a day and by that time their attention spans are shot and they want pay any attention.
September 28th, 2009
12:02 pm
I think that longer school years is a must if we want to be able to competes with the rest of the world. However, we are having to furlough teachers now because there isn't enough money to be had. How is he planning to fund this?
September 28th, 2009
12:04 pm
Homeschooled kids learn way more in way less time. Its the system folks, not how long kids are imprisoned in it.
More money, more time, smaller classes, new math, ebonics, look-say, and every other farse that has been perpetrated on the innocent has achieved nothing more than more money for more idiots who don't know what they are doing.
The constitution provides no legal authority for government to be involved in education. They are failures at it and it is time to shut down the brainwashing/indoctrination centers and go back to parents and the private sector solving the needs of education for THEIR children.
September 28th, 2009
12:05 pm
I agree with Trell. Middle and High school kids can handle more time in school. I am sick of hearing parents scream about the money they spend for summer programs. You had the kids stop expecting other people to spend their time taking care of them.
School should not be a measure of child care. That is a huge part of the problem now. It is not a teachers job to raise your children.
I don't agree with the year long school. I have children in a different state and we are already not on the same school schedule. If they make it a national thing and all students are off at the same time then yes, but if not it will be a hardship for those of us with by-regiional families. Our other children should not have to go without see us and vice versa because the school systems cant seem to get their act together.
September 28th, 2009
12:16 pm
Take government out of the equation, return the tax money to the people, and privatize the system. Like magic, there will be enough.
David S.,
Absolutely. Quality matters far more than quantity. Although I wouldn't be opposed to longer days/years in certain scenarios, the big issue here is one of quality. The government can't provide it nor should they.
September 28th, 2009
12:23 pm
Another attempt by Obama to make our nation a communist nation. How dare he come in and tell us that our children need to stay in school from sun up to sun down 365 days a year. Mr. Obama as a Harvard graduate I am surprised that you truly believe a calendar teaches children. Parents and teachers teach our children. These are children and if you are so concerned about the underpriledged then please give them more schools, books and teachers. Please tell us how you would intend to fund such a plan?
September 28th, 2009
12:47 pm
Middle school and high school are already 7+ hours long (with as little as 20 minutes for lunch at some schools) – how much longer do you want it to be?
If they extended the time, the extra time cannot be spent sitting in classes. Hands-on (art, music, science) enrichment, remdiation, study hall (to work with a teacher, complete homework, or go to the library), intramural team sports – even just walking around the track are ok, but more seat time is like pouring water in an already full glass. I'm adult, and I've been burnt out at the end of an 8 hour training session – how do you think the kids are going to feel?
September 28th, 2009
12:48 pm
A. How does Prez Maobama plan to pay for this?
B. I cant wait to see the reactions from the teachers unions when Maobama tries to force them to work a full work year and/or a full work day, like the rest of us!
C. More time in school WILL NOT improve the QUALITY of public education. Getting rid of tenure for public school teachers would be the best thing we could do for our public schools!
September 28th, 2009
12:52 pm
Bottom line, we need to go to year round school interspersed with breaks of a few weeks throughout. This will accomplish two main issues with the current schedule. Students forget what they've learned after a protracted vacation over the summer and weeks are spent at the beginning of every school year to review lessons. Second, both students and teachers are more refreshed by taking breaks more often during the course of the year instead of having a long one during the summer.
The differences seen in better test scores of other countries with fewer school hours is cultural. Until American parents become more involved and nurturing of their children, we will continue to lag behind other countries. Calls by the government for longer hours is simply keeping the kids in a better environment for learning instead of one at home with parents who are more interested in warehousing them to suit their own schedules.
Our culture of entitlement will continue to be an impediment to progressing as a nation, not only educationally, but other aspects as well.
September 28th, 2009
1:12 pm
Vivian- your political agenda diminishes your argument- comcern for our kids being educationally competitive in this world is certainly NOT communistic.
September 28th, 2009
1:18 pm
David S.'s example of home-schooled kids demonstrates that good education does not require eliminating childhood. However, as long as public school is hampered by too large classrooms encumbered by such variability in learning styles and ability, it can't be taught like home school.
And, If public school is lengthened without a decrease in homework amounts, I will remove my child from public school…for these reasons:1) much of the school time is spent on repetitive activities-wasted time is tremendous, why sit longer doing nothing new? 2) my child rarely sees the light of day, now, as it is. In elementary school, recess was too short and more often than not, the teachers found reasons to cancel it: some kid misbehaved so the class didn't get to go out-over and over and over again!, The teachers thought it was too cold or too hot or it might rain, or it might snow or the child was sick yesterday and had to stay in to make up that work.KIDS MUST PLAY!!! In middle school, she doesn't go out at all and some classrooms have no windows. Homework keeps her from being able to go out at all on many days. In winter the short days already make after school play nearly impossible. So, no, I don't want longer days…unless homework is not added and recess is mandatory! As for year-round school? Dr. Petruzielo has been forcing that on us since his arrival, shortening and shortening summer vacation until there is little left. For those who work and must put their kids in daycare during those stupid off weeks, the care is absent, no real programs exist and the kids are in a state of chaos and undiscipline for a week. Or they are home alone and veg or get into trouble.. Summer programs, on the other hand, are well-planned and structured. And MOST families still enjoy family time and family reunions in the summer time, when the weather is nice and they otherwise could not get together. Let's think and plan before jumping into a bandaid approach to education that may likely further diminish childhood and family togetherness. The fact remains- public education needs a major overhaul…it's TIME!
September 28th, 2009
1:18 pm
Longer days, longer years … it won't mean anything unless we make it more MEANINGFUL time. Not more time for meetings or other baloney (bologna? However you care to spell it.). Duncan points to school systems that have seen improvements in — yes, of course, test scores — when they've increased time spent in core classes. But those were already lower-achieving schools and I would really like to know how that time was spent. If, as in some schools I've seen, the time was simply spent "practicing" for the test in that subject area, I'd argue that it was NOT time well-spent and there was not necessarily good "learning" after all.
Maureen, I suppose that's a difficult question to answer, but it might be worth a look. What, exactly, did those schools DO with that extra time?
(I also find it incredulous that Duncan and Obama would compare us to Japan and not even give passing mention to a difference of CULTURE and how they/we value education, deal with discipline, special education — Japan doesn't have any, for example — and the countless other issues that hold our schools back. When and if we are ever able to compare apples to apples, I –and many, many others — will be interested. Until then, it continues to be the same old improper comparison.)
September 28th, 2009
1:24 pm
As a teacher of a year round school the above comment needs to be corrected. Year Round Schools (YRS) are great in theory, but since we do not have "summers" we build in summer school during our breaks. On a 3 week break kids and volunteering teachers are in school for 2 of those weeks, except at winter which is for only 1 week of additional instruction. That means many of our kids are in school for 200+ days! And folks last year we didn't meet our districts targets. We met AYP, but not the district level targets which are traditionally higher than that of the government's. The root of this evil in our education is the lack of value in the home. Those of us responding to this blog obviously were reared in homes where education was valued, and many of us probably are the first in our families to attend and complete college. That goes to show it isn't necessarily the level of education completed, but the value of its benefits. If we keep kids in school longer from homes where education isn't valued are we fostering this value or feeding the fury of resentment people in this country have towards education. We've gotten so far away from education being seen as a privilege in this country that it is now a right and those who don't want it have more rights within it and as a teacher that pisses me off. My students do not need longer days or school years I don't think any of them do! What my students need are parents first, teacher second and government last. So, Obama wants kids in school longer…where was that in his speech to the youth?
September 28th, 2009
1:32 pm
I am pleased to see that this is one of the more civilized discussions on this blog with a few exceptions. I think many people made some great points. I personally don't believe in longer school day as all students (and hard working teachers) are exhausted with the current schedule and demands. However, I strongly advocate lengthened class periods and block scheduling. This will allow teachers to do more project-based and experiential learning which is more like learning in the "real world." They may not have every subject every day but today, teachers can integrate online learning into the courses as well to give students meaningful tasks to complete and discussions to participate in that extend learning and allow students to be engaged even when they do not meet face-to-face. Teaching schools how to incorporate online environments would be a much more cost effective way to address current challenges.
I am not against the concept of year-round school as long as it is still around 180 days with the breaks spread throughout the year. Unfortunately- the research does not really support that this method leads to better results.
Of course there are issue of technology access and that is where I like the model mentioned of having school buildings be like community centers after hours where students can get online safety and get extra help if needed. Teachers who work the extended hours should of course be compensated for their time but I will be extremely disappointed if longer school days are mandated for all children. The needs to be time for the extra-curricular and experiential learning that occurs often outside of school.
September 28th, 2009
1:39 pm
I could go for a longer school year but absolutely oppose longer days. Kids are already very crunched for time after school to play, participate in sports or other extracurricular activities, homework, and family time. Parents don't see their kids enough as it is.
We can improve the QUALITY of education without extending days.
September 28th, 2009
2:03 pm
Presiden Obama and Mr. Duncan are calling for longer days and making claims that are not supported by research. They do compare KIPP schools' longer days to the higher achievement that KIPP apparently shows, but they do not tell you that KIPP schools have very high attrition rates. They also do not tell you how KIPP schools are able to "encourage" lower performing kids to exit their program and return to public schools.
As for the nations that have longer school years, there is also a dubious use of research. Some of the nations have higher achievement on average, but they do not share the fact the the US has overall more high performing kids than any other country. They also do not report that 8th grade math has risen through the last few years.
Longer days for kids? Give me a break. Are they going to pay for this? If you look at their track record for footing the bill for things they require from the federal level, you will not find one that is very good. Special education funding was promised to be 40%, minimum. The feds still fund less than 20% of special education costs, yet they require schools to provide very expensive services.
Truth is, only certain portions of our students would benefit from longer school days and years. I'm not sure if we want to get into those kinds of specifics.
September 28th, 2009
2:40 pm
Year around school does not boost learning. Here is the best research to date on the topic.
I will homeschool my children before I subject them to one more minute of government school. More than half of it is a complete waste of time anyway.
September 28th, 2009
2:49 pm
Let's use longer school days to give kids more recess and free time. Some school days can be just for fun – filed day, etc.
The bottom line, unless the quality of instruction improves, incresing the time kids spend in schools will not mean a thing. 30 more days of nothing is still nothing.
September 28th, 2009
3:44 pm
The problem with education does not lie with the teachers. The whole self-esteem movement and the move away from allowing teachers to teach has created the current situation. Many of us remember not being asked if we liked certain subjects, we were just expected to take them and make an effort. The grade was equal to the effort. At some point we decided to reward students for doing the expected. Why?
September 28th, 2009
5:32 pm
Children do not spend enough time with their families as it is, and homework often cuts into what little time there is to spend together, often making the time together unpleasant. Parents, not peers need to be the primary influence in a childs life, and should have time to plan family actvities and trips. Not to mention that many children, mine included , are involved in many activities outside of school that are worthwhile, and would probably have to be cut out if a longer school day and year came about. Childhood should not be spent warehoused inside a building and apart from those who truly care for the child.
I do like the suggestion though, that maybe schools could be community centers in off hours- those that NEED more time in school , or just a better environment to be in could then take advantage of that if they chose to do so.
September 28th, 2009
7:16 pm
I am not against more school days, but longer school days may be a problem. If it is to long you are barely going to have time for homework before your child goes to bed.
September 28th, 2009
7:40 pm
I can see some benefits if there is nothing more productive for the students in their home environment and for the students who are academically below grade level. I also have some concerns about this proposal. I am first concerned about compensation. Teachers will not be paid fairly with the increased days and school year. I base this belief on the premise that teachers are not being paid fairly with the current schedule. Secondly, the teachers will in effect become the parents and teachers. When will the parents spend time with their child, if teachers have them until 5:00 p.m. and on the weekends? Thirdly, the issue of class size is a concern. The increased schol day and school year will have little effect without the reduction of class size. I believe reduced class size will have a more positive affect then increased school time.
September 28th, 2009
8:38 pm
Homeschoolers move much faster because they basically have personal tutors.
School moves more slowly because there are 25-35 students per classroom, and the teacher has to work with all of them.
Class size isn't important, though — ask any non-teacher.
September 28th, 2009
9:07 pm
Thank goodness my personal children are finished – the last thing they ever needed was MORE time in school. Of course, as a parent I actually spent time with my kids after school – we ate dinner together – played games – watched TV and movies, whatever. I will pay for my grandchildren (if and when – hopefully not soon, lol) to got to private school – or homeschool them when I retire.
Jeez – can you say "nanny state?"
And I know other schools in other states have shorter days, but here in Georgia, middle school and high school are already close to (or even over) 8 hours when you factor in bus rides. The "union" (lol, I know we don't really have one in GA) sure didn't have anything to say about that! Kids still need time to be kids! Someone's point above about homework is very true – they lengthen the school day, I would expect there to be no homework.
As far as adding days to the year – this is mainly to Will – teachers aren't the ones complaining – we're paid by the day, so we'll make more money! Many of us do work "all year" like the "rest of you" – we just do things like teach summer school, work other jobs, or own our own business (lots of us dabble in real estate – this recession has been a double-whammy). You probably wouldn't hear from the "union," (which of course isn't a real union) but you would hear from parent groups like Georgians Need Summers – never assume, Will, never assume.
September 28th, 2009
9:15 pm
September 28th, 2009
10:07 pm
Just one more thing that Obama wants to control.
September 28th, 2009
10:19 pm
How does Mr. Obama plan to pay for longer year and longer days plus weekends? Teachers in our state have been furloughed and expect more. On this very site is another article about National Board Certified teachers not receiving full bonuses. I'd like to suggest something free that will turn every American school around- Unwavering DISCIPLINE! Longer school days would only increase discipline problems.
September 28th, 2009
10:24 pm
Maybe Arne Duncan can make every American school district as great as the one he left in Chicago. They apparently have a novel approach to reducing class size, the students simply kill each other.
September 28th, 2009
10:44 pm
Couple of thoughts….
1) In Georgia, teacher contracts are for 190 work days (well they're supposed to be but good ol' Sonny needs his fish pond in Houston County, but I digress) Ten of those days are planning days. These days are vital for preparing for teaching. Quality education does not happen without quality planning, which 175 or so of the 180 school boards in Georgia seemed to think was not the case (ehm ehm $100 Million Reserves Mr. Wilbanks) but since the contracts are for 190 paid days of work, extending the year would require extra pay for the teachers. Since tax revenues are down in our antiquated tax system, where is the money going to come from?
2) I truly believe if the focus was less on passing a multiple choice test in December, February, April, or May and focused on actual learning (and authentic assessment to boot), our kids would perform. They get over anxious or bored or just don't give a damn about most of these standardized tests and who gets blamed? I won't say there aren't teachers that need to find other lines of work, but basing teaching ability on student test scores on tests that really aren't valid anyway is just not really fair, now is it? Let's use the time we have to really teach and really assess our students and we'll see Georgia Schools aren't as bad as they really appear.
Oh, just an interesting thing I fact I was given…. Georgia is 42nd in the nation for tax collection rates (thanks in part to a very antiquated system) and our schools rank 47th…. coincidence? I think not.
September 29th, 2009
2:48 am
Longer school days and longer school years might work if we incorporate more frequent recesses in the former and more frequent scheduled breaks in the latter.
September 29th, 2009
6:47 am
Just what we need, spend more taxpayer's money that this country simply does not have! Come on, have we not already put a large burden on our children with the future of this country, now we need to burden their childhood? Besides what has technology really achieved?
September 29th, 2009
7:03 am
I have to LOL at this. In our county many kids are on the bus at 6:30 and off at 4:30–a ten hour day. In addition, they are even DRILLED IN FACTS AS THEY ARE IN LINE TO USE THE BATHROOM. I think taxpayers are getting quite a lot of bang for the buck here.
September 29th, 2009
8:34 am
Has anyone done a study to see how much classroom time is wasted on disruptive students, slow kids, political correctness, and teaching the test? We keep trying to re-invent the wheel. Let's face it, some kids are a drag on the system and bring us down as a whole. This has been a key problem since the inception of public education. Instead of more time in the classroom, let's have the kids visit the school 2 weeks before the start of class, take a series of tests, and then separate them based on abilities. Let's get serious about the disruptive students and place the slow students in separate classes, starting in kindergarten. Unfortunately, not all minds/children are created equal.
Here we are, the end of September. My daughter's class is still reviewing the previous year. Last year she did not start learning new material until February. What is the point of giving the government more time to waste? I can enrich my child with trips to museums, music lessons, and real life experiences much better than any government school ever imagined.
If we want to become globally competitive, offer advanced elementary school kids foreign languages. My daughter's school is already wasting 6 months of her 10 month school year. We need to look at inefficiency in our current system. Also, if we do not capture the bored and intelligent kids early, a lot of them will grow up to be non-productive members of society. An idle mind is a dangerous mind.
September 29th, 2009
8:34 am
In life and education you get what you pay for. Kipp does it. So what, must Charter schools don't even have certified teacher, they write their petition so they don't have to.
September 29th, 2009
9:48 am
I have always been one of those folks who thought we should have a longer school year. 220 days a year sounds good to me.
September 29th, 2009
9:50 am
220 days sounds good to me.
September 29th, 2009
10:08 am
You know, I feel sorry for kids whose parents want them in school 220 days per year. Many don't have the resources to provide novel opportunities for their kids (which often can't be helped). Others just lack the creativity or desire – the kids of those parents are the ones for whom I truly feel sorry.
Why not handle school like we should be handling health care. Have the schools open for an extra 40 days for those families whose parents are unable or unwilling to provide stimulating activities for their kids or for kids who are below grade level.
As for the others who are doing quite well with things as they are…… leave them alone. We don't want the extra 40 days, and quite frankly, I don't want to pay taxes to entertain the kids of a bunch of middle class or wealthy parents who don't need or want the extra time in school… what a tremendous waste of money that would be!!!!
September 29th, 2009
10:17 am
Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore the U.S. on math and science tests — Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050), Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days) than does the U.S. (180 days).
September 29th, 2009
12:13 pm
So, perhaps what we should think about is to spread the same amount of instruction time over many more days. People need some time to really reflect on the new learning experiences to understand. Having classes (of the same subject) everyday might not be the most conducive for learning.
September 29th, 2009
12:59 pm
I think that having a slightly longer school day, broken up differently wouldn't be a bad idea. If they included sports and band, etc in the longer school day that would be great. It'll cut down on unsupervised time for the kids. A longer school year, sure, why not? The average school year in other countries is around 200 days. Year round school is a great idea. Schools open on the weekend, GREAT idea!! It'll provide a safe palce to go, and a place for students to work on group projects, and the such. Where is the money going to come from, I'm not sure. All in all, I'm willing to hear them out on their ideas, and I hope that they'll be willing to hear out parents, teachers and students.
September 29th, 2009
1:12 pm
Some public schools are very poor. Longer days would only depress and frustrate the youth even more.
School also is often just about conformity. The best artists and scientists are often anti-authoritarian, and ant-conformity.
Obama, for all his fancy education, seems to completely fail in understanding what innovation and originality actually are.
September 29th, 2009
3:33 pm
As a teacher this all sounds great. But the facts of the matter is with less and less money going to schools we can't afford that we have now!!!
September 29th, 2009
4:53 pm
Okay, more time in school. Does that mean more field trips so that students can have experiential learning opportunities? Also does that mean more vocational opportunities for those that have been identified in 3rd grade as not having a mathematical or scienctific mind or IQ. If we are going to have year round all day schools like all of the other countries, what else are they doing? Maybe it is not the etra school hours that we should emulate. Maybe it is back to ability grouping and parents being responsible for their children being properly socialized by having a state sponsored holiday to a foreign country once a year.
September 29th, 2009
5:10 pm
After thinking about this I have the following questions:
1. Who is going to pay for the extra days? We can't pay teacher contract days now. How are we going to pay for 200 or 220 contract days?
2. Why is that the federal gov't dictates all the rules but they only give 5-10% of the state education budget?
3. Obama says that our school kids stay in school for only 5-6 hours? I don't know where he go that because the kids at our school start class at 7:55 and end at 3:30 with a 20 minute lunch break.
4. Yes, students may go more days in other countries, but we must look at the HOURS of instruction. Many students in other countries are allowed to go home for an hour for lunch, and they don't stay from 8-3. What he is stating is not the full truth.
There should be further study before he just makes policy. Also, this is really starting to fringe on state rights.
September 30th, 2009
10:44 am
Elementary students do not need longer school days. I am a kindergarten teacher and they cannot handle it. They need time to be children. The president wants to compare us to other countries and their test scores. Does he realized that they pick and choose who takes their tests?
September 30th, 2009
10:51 am
The bottom line is that the President is trying to do SOMETHING. For all of the complaining that you people do on this blog, what are any of you DOING to try and change this. For those people on here who live in Gwinnett County, you people havent changed the majority of your school board in over 30 years. Vote those losers out and get new, younger, innovative people in there. Of course you are going to have old theories in place when you have old people on your board. I personally like our President but even when I didn't(Bush) I gave the position the RESPECT that it deserved and I have always tried to work within the system. Now that we have a new (black) President, yes I said it, everyone wants to be more critical of his every word. Ok, you don't agree with what he and Mr. Duncan are proposing, then open your mouth, write your congressmen, hell look him up on facebook, or twitter him. the bottom line is that the only people that are on this blog are the parents and former parents of children who care about education. It is not the teachers job to babysit your bad butt children because you don't want to deal with your children. School choice is very important and the fact that Newt and Al are on the same page says alot about how horrible our education system is. NEWT AND AL!! Think about it people, who would have ever thought that would happen in our lifetime. I love all of you on here for your comments and for your passion, but let's use those qualities for good and not to bash the LEADER of our Nation. Trust me, he does have America's best interest at heart and it is okay to disagree about how to go about getting that goal accomplished. It is not okay to continue to bash his head in everytime he opens his mouth. Nor is it okay to place a poll question asking if he should be killed. You see as long as we name call and act like this, the extremists will as well. Ask yourself how you would feel if the President was killed. Doesn't matter if you like him or not, you wouldn't want to see a father of two daughters, or just a human being treated like. How would you feel if an extremist read one of your posts and that was his or her last straw. You would be indirectly responsible for something horrible.
Think about it!!!


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1375 Beaumont Centre Ln has a Walk Score of 14 out of 100. This location is a Car-Dependent neighborhood so almost all errands require a car.
This location is in Lexington-Fayette.
Nearby schools include Paul Laurence Dunbar High School, Rosa Parks Elementary School and Beaumont Middle School.
The closest grocery stores are Kroger, Sahara International Grocery and Walmart Neighborhood Market.
Nearby coffee shops include Tropical Smoothie Cafe, Starbucks and Great Harvest Bread. Nearby restaurants include Peking Bistro Chinese Restaurant, Puccini's Smiling Teeth and Quiznos.
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So, Tom Pecheux's been a busy bee again, rustling up these pastel-with-attitude shades for nails. The only shade not shown here is Dilettante (pale blue) and Deja Blue is an online exclusive. These launch on 1st January 2013 (my birthday!) for £14.50 each.
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The colours are all dense so no wishy-washy shades here – they're pastels made strong. Love them. There are also some 'Paint Pots' coming – creamy pastel shades for eyes – I'll blog 'em when I get 'em!


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Vote Yes – For our children, our town, our future!
Oxford Eagle Publisher Emeritus Jesse P. Phillips writes to encourage voters to support the bond issue to improve the local school system in an upcoming election Oct. 26. Phillips gives enrollment figures to show the need for new facilities, goes over plans for the bond funds and touts the accomplishments and community value of a strong school system. (September 29, 2010, Page 4)
Letter to the Editor
Anne Gilstrap writes to give her answer to the alcohol problem – thinking carefully and then going through the crossroads ahead of us. (September 29, 2010, Page 4)
School not the only place for teaching, learning
President Barack Obama spoke about education earlier this week, suggesting holding teachers and students accountable and considering a longer school year. Those things, plus money, may help Johnny learn to read better, but probably not any more than things his parents, siblings and relatives could do at home. Editor Don Whitten calls on family members to do their part in the education process as well. (September 28, 2010, Page 4)
Sleazy Self-Expression
After addressing one of his student's dress – a cap turned around backward and droopy pants – as he came into the classroom recently, local columnist and college instructor Jimmy Reed thought back to his high school days and what his principal did when he was not satisfied with his students' dress. (September 28, 2010, Page 4)
Explaining the somewhat-confusing judicial races
We just over a month away from mid-term elections which, around these part, include district circuit and chancery court judge races. Yes, that's what the vast majority of campaign signs around the community are about. For those a little confused about who they can vote for, Editor Don Whitten gets a bit of help from the circuit clerk's office. (September 27, 2010, Page 4A)
The case of the missing yard signs
Election campaigning once meant small political cards, bumper stickers and possibly a fan to wave. Nowadays, it's signs on posts and in yards and on street corners. Local columnist John Morgan relates a humorous story about his campaign signs from a year ago and how some were being used by someone else. (September 24, 2010, Page 4A)
A regnostic proposal
Do church folks find themselves looking out instead of in? Has religion been transformed from something it once was? Local columnist T.J. Ray takes on the subject by suggesting that churches and their members concentrate less on buildings and such and more on doing good works and helping others. (September 23, 2010, Page 4)
Letters to the Editor
Milly Moorhead West writes to support Rep. Travis Childers and to urge people to not believe everything they hear or see in political ads. (September 23, 2010, Page 4)
Summer of 2010 was event-filled – and hot
What do you remember most about the summer of 2010 as it officially ends this week? World Cup soccer? The Gulf oil spill? Sunday sales of alcohol? Or the heat? Editor Don Whitten takes a look back at a season that's seemed very long and very tough to deal with. (September 22, 2010, Page 4)
Letters to the Editor
David Heckel writes about the large turnout and successful USTA Mixed Doubles state championships held in Oxford recently, and points out that the effort to expand the local tennis facilities can help the local economy. (September 22, 2010, Page 4)


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Coordinates: 32°46′53″N 114°35′25″W / 32.78139°N 114.59028°W
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Ross Corner is an unincorporated community in Imperial County, California.[1] It is located 2 miles (3 km) west-southwest of Bard,[2] at an elevation of 131 feet (40 m).[1]
The name, bestowed in 1917, honors William Crawford Ross, early settler who opened a gas station at the place.[2]
- ^ a b c U.S. Geological Survey Geographic Names Information System: Ross Corner, California
- ^ a b Durham, David L. (1998). California's Geographic Names: A Gazetteer of Historic and Modern Names of the State. Clovis, Calif.: Word Dancer Press. p. 1462. ISBN 1-884995-14-4.
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Movie: The Wicker Man
A mystery/drama from 1973 that can truly be called a classic. Elegantly understated with a real shocker ending, The Wicker Man tells the story of a stiff and deeply religious Scottish police sargeant from the mainland who goes to a remote island to investigate a missing child.
He finds a place where the inhabitants are all pagan worshippers who stymie his attempts to find the girl or her body.
This is not a fast-moving movie, but the deliberate pacing just adds to the suspense, and the ending is a real surprise.
Available in R and Unrated versions, the caps are from the 11 minute longer unrated version. While the topless shots of Britt Ekland are all her, the bottom shot is a body double because she refused to be shot nude below the waste. They are included in the collage for completeness.
The scenes added for the extended version were transferred from the original 1" analog telecine master, the only place where they still exist. Because of the lower quality of the old analog tape, you can easily tell which sections were added to make up the extended version.
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Many of our followers requested more information on our recent presentation at DC's Social Media Week, so, by popular demand, here are a few excerpts of our 5-minute* Lightning Talk for "Defining and Measuring Success on Social Media for Museums and Arts Organizations:"
Be sure to see the full Storify feed for a great recap of all the presentations from the #SmwMuseSocial panel. Thanks to all the panelists & attendees and everyone who helped to live-tweet the event!
(*undoubtedly we went well over the 5 minute limit but Dana Allen-Greil, our moderator-extraordinaire, was too polite call us on it.)
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Really nice looking Marko, keep up the nice work.
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Really nice looking Marko, keep up the nice work.
Still have to make sayas, but it looks like Bao's long wait is almost over.
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Very elegant, nice and understated. Great ebony pieces, too.
The handles do justice to the knives.
Thanks M. It's worth the wait. Both yours and Stefan were worth the wait.
That Kanji is crazy!
Those handles are classy.
Elegant and beautiful
Thanks. Here are two more that I completed last week.
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Mark, I just joined this forum. Your handles and say as are awesome. Could you post some basics on handle and saya construction for the starting woodworker. Thanks so much.
Ah, the notorious Kramer and its saya! What wood, if I may ask?
And the handle on the Shigefusa is just beautiful.


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Yep, it's done.
Second Wind, folks, Second Wind is here.
It's a witty blend of Text Adventure, Roguelike, and Sweet Simplicity.
All in all, there are 20 classes, three skills each, three major areas, four endings, countless monsters (as in, I'm too lazy to count them,) treasures, specialty shops, equips, weapons, and more.
Folks, this is one big game.
Also, there are medals, lots of em'
I sincerely dare you to beat the game on Nethack Difficulty.
And remember, dying is all a part of the experience :D
The last update was on October 21st, Version 1.57:
- Fixed up the Saiyan's awaken doing absolutely nothing.
- Fixed the broken meter glitch... Hopefully.
- The "explore" segment should run faster.
- And some other stuff I can't remember.
Send a PM with any additional problems and I'll get on them as soon as possible!
Rated 5 / 5 stars June 18, 2013
Not much to say. Went in expecting veeeeeery little, and now I am a drunken Second Wind addicted maniac. Second Wind is my heroin.
Rated 5 / 5 stars June 14, 2013
So, I heard you like dungeons and dragons? or is it just a concidence that the damage counters are referring to D6/d8's :P
Rated 4.5 / 5 stars June 8, 2013
why such the hate on the bat?
Rated 0 / 5 stars June 8, 2013
this game sucks
The review score would beg to differ :P
Rated 5 / 5 stars June 6, 2013
Fun game! After like lvl 13 my rogue became unstoppable though and defeated the end bosses without much effort.


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text: So a few days ago, I talked about part one of the Bradley vs. Scar fight…And after a slight misfire with the photoset (goddamn queue), let's get to part two— the revelation of Scar's creation arm and the enormous leap in his character that this represents. I am just disgustingly in love with that top picture in the set as well because of the direct parallel Arakawa is drawing between Scar and Alphonse. Both are the younger of two brothers where the elder sacrificed his right arm to save his little brother's life and in both scenes, they're both moving toward their opponent (two of the most terrifying characters in the series), armed with the tool that will let them win, something they never imagined they'd use because of the moral implications that go directly against their personal beliefs (Scar and alchemy, Alphonse and the Philosopher's Stone). In both cases, it's symbolic of their willingness to move forward and do what must be done to survive, that there is so much more at stake than their own beliefs, that everyone's lives are on the line and when that happens, you have to be willing to adapt to save the people that matter to you. There's even a visual similarity between the panels, with Arakawa drawing both Al and Scar straight on, shoulders rolled forward, head down, and eyes not completely visible.That said! The funny thing about all of this is that it's Al fighting Kimblee (well, and Pride) for the final time, not Scar. For a while, I really wanted for Scar and Kimblee to throw down one final time, for Scar to be the one who took Kimblee out. (Part of me still wants it because it would just be cool as fuck) But that would defeat the point of what Arakawa's been trying to say throughout the entire series. It's not about revenge or giving what your enemy is due, it's about overcoming your own failings to become the person you're supposed to be.Scar fights Wrath. That's not a coincidence. He is literally against his greatest sin, the walking embodiment of fury and revenge. This is the final trial that he has to overcome for the sake of everyone. There is no failing here. Letting Wrath overtake him is not an option because everyone he knows will suffer for it. All the while, Bradley is trying to goad him into becoming the wrathful person he once was."There is no god!" Despite all of that, despite coming face to face with his greatest failing, the sin that destroyed and consumed his life for so many years, he succeeds marvelously. He defeats Bradley, but never lays a "final blow," instead letting the person who gave the order to murder his entire people die with a smile on his face. It's a victory in every sense of the word and with that final trial overcome, he can finish what he was always meant to do— complete his brother's work. He is the starting point for the nationwide counter-circle that removes Father's influence over alchemy in Amestris, in essence giving strength to the people he once hated. His new goal is to change Amestris into something better and he literally does so with his own two hands.It's an enormous leap from the person he was at the beginning of the manga, probably one of the most intense character arcs in the entire series, and it is so fucking SATISFYING.


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An Albemarle County high school teacher is getting a second chance to steal the show tonight on the "Jeopardy!" Teachers Tournament.
Monticello High School's Michael Farabaugh came up short of a victory on the program last week. Wednesday night, he's back in the competition, and he's not holding anything back.
Michael Farabaugh has kept his lips sealed since taping his "Jeopardy!" appearance back in early October. He won't say how he does on Wednesday night's semifinals, but he will say he's glad he has a second chance at his dream.
Wednesday morning at Monticello High School, Farabaugh's chemistry classroom was buzzing. Hours before their teacher's second chance on "Jeopardy!" would air, his students got their own taste of the action, playing a version of the game based on their class material.
Farabaugh's run on the real program should have ended last week, after taking place in the first round of the teacher's tournament.
"When you left the stage, you thought, 'Was that it? I'll never get a chance to play again,'" Farabaugh said.
But he will play again Wednesday night, thanks to his strong performance last week.
"It's really about lifelong learning. Jeopardy is definitely a show where you appreciate learning new things and being curious about the world around you," he said.
Farabaugh is keeping his lips sealed until after the show airs. But he did hint at his performance, saying if you ever get a daily double, you should wager big.
To find out what happens, tune into NBC29 at 7:30 p.m.


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African Immigrants Find Home in the Bronx
The Bronx boasts the largest concentration of African immigrants. In a podcast, Feet in 2 Worlds interviews some of the Africans who live, worship and run small businesses there, ...Read More »
Bronx Merchants Upset Over Sanitation Tickets
Some Bronx merchants complain that they are unfairly ticketed by the Department of Sanitation for garbage which has been scattered after-hours by people foraging for bottles, repo ...Read More »
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Lucy hears sounds in her house and is certain that the "sneaking, creeping" noises coming from inside the walls are wolves. No one in her family believes that there are any wolves—but you know that "if the wolves come out-, it's all over." This book, though written for children, is particularly creepy and strange—and the accompanying illustrations just add to that "creepy" feeling. I love the work of Neil Gaiman—and this book was no exception. Not for the young child—maybe for those over the age of 8-10. A 4 out of 5 stars.
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Let the Woodstock Festival begin and i can't think of a better performer to get weekend off to a great start than Richie Havens.
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One of the biggest days in classic rock history took place on the Autumn side of Summer: Woodstock.
A souvenir booklet from the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival signed by Jimi Hendrix has fetched $6,500 on eBay.
Jimi Hendrix and friends are gathering together for a new documentary set to drop November 5.
Alice Cooper's 19th album is returning to stores with a few extra tracks.
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Rod Stewart has taken his punches over the years. First in the late '70s for his disco hit 'Da Ya Think I'm Sexy?' and most recently for his series of albums featuring a bunch of old songs your grandma and grandpa used to get busy to back in the day. But before all that, he was one of rock's greatest singers.
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Deep cuts and rarities from the early years of Rod Stewart's solo career are seeing the light of day in a new compilation, due this fall.
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While the Stanley Cup playoffs are occurring in the States, four Phantoms are currently participating at the International Ice Hockey Federation (IIHF) Tournament. Here is an update from Helsinki and Stockholm.
Forward Marcel Noebels, the fourth round pick of the Flyers in the 2011, has averaged 5:28 of ice-time in two games for Team Germany (0-2-1). He appeared in 41 games this past season with Adirondack tallying 13 goals and 10 assists.
Defenseman Erik Gustafsson has been impressive thus far for Sweden (1-1-0) in the tournament. Through three games, Gustafsson is ranked second on the team in ice-time (20:32 per game), has recorded an assist and is a plus 3.
Defenseman Oliver Lauridsen, playing alongside his brother Markus, has appeared in both games for Denmark (0-2-0) averaging over 19 minutes of ice-time per game.
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Quote: Read "everything's different...but nothing's changed" by George D. Lepp
just did and it's the most reasonable balanced succinct article I think i've ever read on the subject IMHO. As he says, it's all about control of the process. And I agree let's make a distinction between "optimisation" and "manipulation". Recommended reading, thanks Denny
Quote: I totally dissagree with lobsterboy! Especially with transparencies you have to do the hard work in the camera with the exposure as theres no room for error! With digital you can just erase and try again to get the right exposure! if film is cheating then what does that make digital?? I think you loose a connection with just looking at a screen, either in the camera or the computer!
Just noticed this and thought I would reply. I cant see how you lose a connection with digital due to its immediacy. If anything you are much more involved in the process than with film as once you have shot the film you completly abdicate controll.
AFAICS unless you take complete control of the image production from capture all the way through to final print you are cheating. If someone else does the print for you then it is no longer soley your work.
Good threads these digi v film!!
If you want total control and if you want the pressure of having to get it right fist time then go out and buy a 5x4 plate camera, a DeVere enlarger (not need I supose as you will then be manipulating the image, so contact printing it will have to be), etc.
What you then do is to select a subject to photograph and focus totally on that one subject. Being a bit Zen helps. Go out to take the pic with no more than two sheets of film and come back and produce the print using no more than 3 sheets of paper. Great way to learn total control and is what the great pioneers of photography did 150 years ago.
Me, I prefer digi as I have tried the above and it was great fun when learning but not very practical later on. Lets move on into the 21st century and enjoy photography no matter how you do it.
Ah yes, digital v. film, what a great subject!
I haven't read the whole thread, & probably don't need to. I don't normally get involved in this discussion anymore, but thought I'd give my answer to the original question 'Is digital cheating?'.
On the basis that in order to cheat, then you must be breaking a rule or law of some sort, then what rule or law is it that using a digital camera breaks?
About 170 years ago, some people found a way of permanently recording an image as seen before them without having to paint or draw it. The technology used was based on being able to turn silver black by exposing it to light, and until the introduction of digital imaging this technology remained the basis of photography.
(There is an irony in that the first exposures were so long (ie. hours) that the scenes never did look that real, but hey.)
That's the recording medium. The camera itself is based on very old technology, the camera obscura, as used by many of the great painters of the last few hundred years. This projects an image of the scene in front of them onto canvas, which they trace over. And then get a team of assistants to paint the picture. Now that's cheating!
My point here is that artists have always used whatever tools and technology available to them at the time to assist in the image making process. Did any of these people ever say "right, that's how to do do it, so that's how it should always be done. For ever. And don't let anybody invent another method."? It is because people like this existed, and pushed the boundaries of what was capable, that we are able to enjoy our modern technology and have the choices we have today.
I'm a film user, mainly. I like using it, I like it's qualities, it suits me. I certainly don't want to see it killed off. I like to get things right in camera, but I also like to have fun with images, and that's where digital imaging makes it a whole lot easier.
We all like producing images, that's all. We enjoy it. some of us like the more trditional way, some of us fully embrace new technology. We aren't breaking any rules, so nobody's cheating.
whats wrong with having several ways to do one thing - when the wheel was invented it lead to the car, the bike, the tandem, the motorbike, roller skates, skateboards etc - all of these are methods of travelling from A to B and each will get you there slightly differently whether fast, slow, smooth, bumpy but whatever at the core it is all the same thing.
the same can apply to photography/cameras - at the core you have:
The wheel - The camera
car - film camera (35mm, medium format, box)
bike - digital (slr, point & click, phone camera)
as technology improves each variation becomes closer in similarity.
these days the end result of a pro digital slr's quality is very comparable to a pro film slr.
mamiya even have a 22 megapixel medium format digital camera (mamiya ZD)- i bet if you put a photograph print from that next to a mamiya medium format film camera photograph you would be hard pressed to tell the difference.
at the end of the day who cares how many variations there are of something from crap quality through to great quality. if it does the job and satisfies the user surely that is what is important.
and "optimise" compared to "manipulate" - to me they both mean the same - changing the appearence of something to make the end result look better. i think it is a good thing - imagine the world if everything we did that went wrong for one reason or another we just left as it was rather than curing the mistakes to make whatever it is look better.
"manipulation" isn't bad, it is good like "optimisation" - there is a third that is better to use - "counterfeit/fake" - this is the bad one of the three because what it does is mislead - giving you something that isnt real, but presented to look like the real thing; the joy of con artists - counterfeit money, fake famous master paintings etc.
if i have my photographs developed by a camera shop it has been said this means the photo's arnt soley mine because i havn't done everything - does the same apply if i take photo's on my digital camera and instead of me working on them on my computer, i get my dad to transfer them to the pc and work on them in photoshop then print them. i have only done one thing - press the shutter button. dad has transferred them, photoshopped them and printed them which is 3 things - i assume this means the photographs are now his because he has done more for producing them than i have and therefore the credit of the great images goes to him.
isn't life a fun, interesting and complex thing =)
i'm finishing now because this will be a 1000 page novel soon not just a short responce and i'm not paid by the word =D (but waffling is relaxing)
peter "morpyre" turner
Quote: It bothers me that people harp on about "all that matters is the final result, not the way you got there". I don't agree with this. A wildlife photographer who invests hours and hours to get that one stunning capture of a magnificent wild animal...and then old Billy-Bob from next door goes to the zoo and gets 60 full face shots of the same species.
I've been compelled to respond in this thread, because of your comment here dude (Starstrider). I totally agree - and your point does indeed transcend the whole equipment debate.
I admire and seek to learn from the likes of Niall Benvie and Joe Cornish. I don't know about anyone else - but a large part of what I'm learning - and valuing - from these guys, is to do with the whole approach to their photography. This is indeed nicely embodied by your example - Two people could have the 'same' image of say a Cheetah looking wistfully into the distance - but the fact that one of them was from a trip to the zoo - and the other from a thousand-mile journey across desert and mountain - is significant, to me. The effort gone to to capture an image 'for real' - or patience applied, to wait for a coincidence of events - is somehow part of the image - spiritually (as silly as that may sound). It's about how deep a relationship you seek to have with your art and your work, in a way.
May be - when it comes to selling the image or something - it makes no odds - but the difference is fundamental and important, to my mind.
Quote: Two people could have the 'same' image of say a Cheetah looking wistfully into the distance - but the fact that one of them was from a trip to the zoo - and the other from a thousand-mile journey across desert and mountain - is significant, to me.
Couldnt agree more - I was discusted when this shot was judged against similar shots taken of captive animals. Where's the field craft?
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Obama sets Muslim outreach for Indonesia trip
(Photo: Istiqlal Mosque in Jakarta, August 18, 2003/Supri)
President Barack Obama will visit Indonesia's largest mosque and make a major outdoor speech directed at the global Muslim community when he visits Indonesia next month, the White House said on Thursday.
Obama leaves on November 5 on a 10-day trip to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan. On November 10 in Jakarta, Obama will visit the Istiqlal Mosque, and then make his speech from another, outdoor location, where there could be a large crowd.
"He'll have a chance to talk about the partnership that we're building with Indonesia, but also to talk about some of the themes of democracy and development and our outreach to Muslim communities around the world," deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes told a news conference.
Obama remains popular in the world's most populous Muslim country, where he spent four years while growing up, even as confidence in him has dropped in other Muslim states since he made a major speech in Cairo in June 2009 seeking a new beginning with the Islamic world.


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Country Club at Mirasol
|It has been suggested that this article be merged into The Honda Classic. (Discuss) Proposed since May 2012.
|Club information
|Palm Beach Gardens, Florida
|Total holes
|Tournaments hosted
|Honda Classic (2003-2006)
|Sunset course (opened 2001)
|Designed by
|Arthur Hills
|7,166 yards
|Sunrise course (opened 2003)
|Designed by
|Tom Fazio
|7,416 yards
The Country Club at Mirasol (also known as Mirasol) is a large, gated community located in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida. The community, developed by Taylor Woodrow, contains just under 1,200 homes and home sites on two championship golf courses along with natural preserves and lakes. Mirasol is spread over 2,300 acres (9 km2) on property previously owned by the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation. The two 18-hole golf courses located in the community were designed by Arthur Hills and Tom Fazio. A practice range, clubhouse, fitness center, spa, and swimming pool are located on the site of the country club as well as 15 clay tennis courts.[citation needed]
The Honda Classic[edit]
The Country Club at Mirasol hosted the PGA Tour's Honda Classic from 2003 to 2006. The winners of The Honda Classic during its time at Mirasol were Justin Leonard in 2003, Todd Hamilton in 2004, Pádraig Harrington in 2005, and Luke Donald in 2006. The Honda Classic brought attention to the community[who?] because it attracted thousands of spectators and national television coverage. In March 2007, the tournament moved to the Champion course at PGA National Golf Club, located across PGA Boulevard from Mirasol in Palm Beach Gardens.


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A Tip Toe Down Memory Lane
Wednesday 6 June 2012
People who come afresh to a situation generally accept what they see for what it is. They have no choice. It was like that when they got there.
It's no different in the law. A novice coming afresh to the law in the year 2012 finds the law just as it is. It has plenty of pageantry, centuries of history, a very defined hierarchy, some complex protocols, many niceties and many opportunities for those willing to fall into line and to work hard. Unconsciously though, some of the things we see or do nowadays were unheard of 35 years ago. In fact, some of the things we do in the law in the year 2012 were utterly heretic to the status quo of the 1970s and 1980s. Nowadays, we see the Supreme Court adjudicating over issues that the House of Lords once presided over. We see mega firms dominating the profession nationally and internationally. We see more graduates being churned out of law schools than ever before, the majority of whom are women. We see unspeakable pressure upon legal people to get jobs then to hold them in the profession. We see an explosion of pro bono work done at community legal centres and in free legal clinics. All in all, the legal landscape in the year 2012 is very different to what it was 35 years ago when I began.
My purpose in mentioning this to you now is to give you a snapshot of what life in the law was like 35 years ago. Some things are still with us – some aren't. The law has moved forward at an exponential speed in a mere 35 years.
Who was practising in those days?
Thirty five years ago the profession was made up of almost all males. In the main they were from a privileged background, they attended a handful of upper middle class boys' schools then they attended one of only two acceptable universities. Sometimes a father or grandfather had been a partner of the firm that the young lad entered. In reality, there was a hand full of excellent firms in the city plus a huge number of mediocre ones elsewhere. Top students and well-connected young men went into the excellent firms. They were allocated roles in corporate matters, estates, conveyance of land matters or litigation. Rarely was there any overlap of disciplines. New solicitors aspired to become partners by, maybe, 28.
Partners remained partners all their lives and very seldom did they leave their firms to join another. Most partners were appointed to boards of their clients, they played golf, they belonged to gentlemen's clubs and were never to be found at their desks on a Friday afternoon between 12:30 and 3pm. They enjoyed upper middle calls affluence, married in their late 20s, sent their children to private schools and attended church on Sundays. Partners established client bases that lasted a lifetime.
Partners were each allocated a secretary. She worked on a manual or later an electric typewriter. No one had heard of computers then. The secretary had attended a school to train her to make a career out of being the secretary to a male. She often worked for the one partner for a whole lifetime. The more senior she became at the firm the more powerful she was and invariably lauded it over new articled clerks and even junior partners. Smoking in one's office was not only permitted, it was encouraged. On a Friday night all staff (legal and administrative) were invited to attend at some watering hole for some firm stories and bonding. Almost everyone attended. Each year the firm arranged a golf day, a tennis day, a football day and any number of inter-firm cricket matches. Moring and afternoon tea was delivered to one's office by the 65 year old tea lady who had worked for the firm most of her post-war life.
At the same stage, the Bar was one-third its present size (at least). The demographic composition was the same – men from private schools who had graduated from one of two acceptable universities. Doing criminal cases was anything but exotic and most well to do juniors were involved in heavy commercial cases. Appeals to the Privy Council were alive and well and were highly sought after briefs. Briefs from the large firms were always better prepared (and better paid) than those from smaller firms. Rarely was weekend work to be done. Horse racing, sailing, skiing and travel were the recreations of choice. Disposable income was much higher, taxes were much lower, work was more plentiful and anyone who occupied the office of Chairman of the Bar Council was guaranteed elevation to the Supreme Court.
Most barristers employed one secretary between three or thereabouts. Workers compensation cases and civil juries for common law negligence cases were a very rewarding source of income. Appointment to silk could reasonably have been expected at around 40. An applicant had to do no more than have a private discussion with the Chief Justice during which he showed a few entries of his fee book revealing the firms who retained him and the fees being paid to him. There were no witness statements in cases because all evidence was led viva voce. Good common law barristers made good commercial barristers and vice versa. There was no internet, no mobile phone, no computer, no social media, correspondence arrived and left the firm by letter (sometimes hand written) and the retired former senior partner delighted in reading all the gossip of the firm by opening the daily mail to see who was doing what to whom. No one suffered drug dependence, sherry at home after work was an essential wind-down tool and there were no publically discussed cases of mental ill health.
In short, life was tranquil, predictable and gentlemanly and it moved at an acceptable pace.
Then came the 1980s
Almost with a blink of an eye, the landscape changed in the early 1980s upon the creation of the mega firm. Firms merged with other firms to become mega sized. Transactional commercial work went through the roof. State based firms merged with firms in other states to create national firms. International firms established a toehold in Australia. Often, the number of partners and staff of firms went from barely 100 (administrative staff included) to several hundreds. How tiny that is by current standards! This happened, essentially, overnight. UK names like Clifford Chance, Linklaters, Slaughter & May, and others become household names to Australian firms.
But one thing was born in those times that changed life forever. It was small and simple. Yet it became an unforgiving overlord. It was the timesheet. Every six minutes of every hour of every working day had to be charged to a client. And charged those clients were. All of a sudden firm profitability escalated out of sight. Firms became bigger and bigger. Staff, partner and administrative numbers grew in leaps and bounds. Firms began to engage in marketing activities previously regarded as debasing. All of a sudden firms entertained their clients on the firm yacht. They wined and dined their clients at corporate boxes at the horse racing, football or cricket. Firms built in-house dining rooms for their staff to give them the evening meal with a view to enabling them to keep working well into the night. And all the while they were serving that relentlessly unforgiving, heartless and soulless beast - the time sheet. Their sheer profitability gave firms unprecedented power – to hire the best, to pay them huge amounts so as to retain them and to acquire a strangle hold on the whole legal market. In time clients didn't need to go anywhere but to that one firm for any aspect of legal services – except to fight court battles.
In the time that firms were growing in strength, barristers were being starved of the work they had hitherto undertaken. A lot of that work, such as pleadings, witness statements, particulars etc, was being done in the firms – maybe not as well as the barristers had done but most of it was being done in the one profit centre (the firm) and to a fashion that got the case to the next stage. If all went well, the firm negotiated a settlement and the litigation went away, to the client's joy.
The 1980s saw huge change at the Bar as well. In no special order we saw the elimination of the two-thirds rule. That was a rule of practice by which a junior was entitled to two thirds of the fee of the senior. For newcomers, it was a brilliant rule as it gave newcomers an instant leg up to excellent fees. If a newcomer was lucky enough to get repeat business with a silk or senior junior, hey presto, his income was assured. For reasons lost in the sands of time and no longer clear to me, that rule was jettisoned.
The 1980s saw an explosion in the number of barristers joining the Bar. The number of those doing commercial work rose astronomically. With the mega firms doing mega transactional work came mega litigation. In this epoch it was far from uncommon to see take over litigation involving legal teams working round the clock. The team was made up of maybe two or three silks, up to seven juniors and an army of instructing solicitors. The stakes were very high and neither side wanted to jeopardise its chances by having an under resourced legal team. So the big companies paid small fortunes for their legal teams.
At this time it became trendy to do high profile crime but there was no legal aid to pay for it. Environmental law was becoming trendy as well but most of the practitioners in it were feral greenies with law degrees.
The new millennium
The big have got bigger, the rich have got richer and the poor have got the picture. The new millennium heralded in a collection of complications. Excess regulation of the legal profession was one. We saw the emergence of socially conscious legal practitioners who pushed the envelope of public interest litigation. Environmental litigation gained real momentum with interest groups bringing cases to court in which they claimed damages for misleading and deceptive conduct in respect of things ranging from battery caged chickens to pork producing tethered pigs. Class actions for corporate collapses as well as faulty silicon used in breast implants took up court space. Firms went global, the partners in which were appointed from the ranks of meritorious and hardworking associates, irrespective of socio economic issues. Women have numerically eclipsed male law school graduates. Over half who graduate never practice law. At the Bar we have co-advocacy where barristers are briefed with solicitors as their juniors and we have solicitor advocates, some of whom go on to take silk.
There are no appeals to the Privy Council or to the House of Lords, most barristers and judges don't wear wigs and tribunals have assumed a large role in dispute resolution. There are now more law schools than ever before. The tea lady is gone as is the gentlemanly lifestyle. The law is very much big business now rather than a learned profession. In all, it is a very different place to the environment in which I was raised.
But is that a bad thing? Definitely not.
Good luck
Josh Wilson.
Dr Wilson's regular weekly insights into the legal profession are influenced by his decades of experience in court and teaching across the world. Dr Wilson SC has been practising as a barrister in Australia for over 25 years, having already served in the Melbourne Magic Circle and as an associate to a Supreme Court judge. His expertise derives from worldwide advocacy experiences and he is usually found in the Supreme Courts and Federal Court of Australia dealing with commercial and equity cases. Married to a judge and father of three, Josh (and his kung fu black belt) is an advocate of all things law and more. A legal genius (Josh took Silk in 2008 and holds a PhD in extradition law!) and with a large topping of good humour, Law and More proudly welcomes Dr Joshua Wilson SC as a columnist.
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b. Statement Addressing Interagency Relationships with Local and State Law
The UCCS PD recognizes the importance of maintaining close and cooperative working
relationships with the City of Colorado Springs Police Department (CSPD), the El Paso County
Sheriff's Office (EPSO), and the El Paso County District Attorney's Office. The UCCS PD
meets with these departments on a formal and informal basis and on specific issues as the
need arises. Through an Intergovernmental Agreement (IGA) with the CSPD, while off campus
in city jurisdiction. UCCS PD is granted enforcement authority of State of Colorado criminal
offenses as well as City traffic and parking violations within a pre-defined enforcement
boundary. Any University owned or leased property in outlying areas is patrolled jointly by both
UCCS PD and CSPD.
All of these law enforcement departments share information to track offender criminal histories
and arrest information, as well as crime trend information. The UCCS PD has direct lines of
communication with these departments, which allow for fast, efficient coordination when
necessary. The UCCS PD also works with other state and federal law enforcement agencies
as required.
Finally, under Colorado Revised Statute 29-5-103 (Assignment of police officers or deputy
sheriffs for temporary duty), UCCS PD has statutory authority to provide assistance to other
law enforcement agencies as needed and required; and, under Colorado Revised Statute 29-
5-104 (Request for temporary assignment of police officers or deputy sheriffs – authority),
UCCS PD has the authority to request law enforcement personnel from other agencies as
needed, or required, to deal with emergency situations on campus.
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upon request. The IGA allows the UCCS PD to enforce municipal traffic and parking
ordinances within the defined "Enforcement Boundary", with all traffic and parking summonses
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