text:
- Mats Kaarbø
- Bergen
- Norway
This conversation is closed.
Will Automation Lead to Economic Collapse?
Most of the agriculture and industrial jobs are already phased out by machines. Over 70% of jobs and labor is currently to find in the service sector, but also this sector is being phased out and replaced by automation which means decreased purchasing power of the general public. Just take a look at this: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2012/08/20/Will-Robots-Cause-Mass-Unemployment-in-China.aspx#page1
Let's make an example as well. What exactly happens when people get automated by machines? They loose their jobs and need welfare to support themselves until they get a new job, if they ever do. But, where does welfare come from? It comes from tax payers. And do people on welfare pay taxes? They don't. So, what happens when everybody is on welfare due to automation and nobody pays taxes? This example is the reality in Michigan and the government there have been on the brink of shutting down due this exact issue. And we are beginning to see this never-ending spiral go out of control in the rest of the world. The trends are definitely there, but where's the solutions?
Is an economic collapse, in fact, an imminent event and a mathematical certainty, looking at the trends in Michigan and China? And is there a way out of this, looking at it in an economical perspective?
mike mclean
ronald davis
Sep 17 2012: Perhaps unskilled workers will be paid to think. Perhaps automation will allow us to simply think, exercise and educate ourselves in sustainable behavior. It could be that economic innovation will provide the foundation for a truly humane global commerce policy, one that taxes each market transaction and distributes it according to real-time humanitarian needs.
shawn disney 10+Sep 19 2012: Noa: You're quite right, but it is no dream. A perfectly safe, cheap, Green form of limitless energy production has already been invented and demonstrated, and right now, the Chinese are developing it further. I mean the forgotten nuclear powered airplane engine project from the Cold war: the Thorium LFTR power plant. Look it up on Youtube.
Sep 27 2012: I agree - the USA had a Thorium test reactor in the 1960's - why didn't it get developed further and provided cheap, sustainable, safe (no need to have a pressurised dome), with little radioactive waste? Answer - because the politicians wanted a Uranium/plutonium reactor to make BOMBS with! How's that for joined up thinking?
Energy is the answer to nearly all the worlds problems - so we need to get on with developing both Thorium and solar massive energy installations (both are sustainable and 'green')
Sep 20 2012: You can't pay people in energy, especially if its cheap, then its not worth much. You have to pay people in money.
Money is of course, nothing special, just a medium of exchange that allow for dissimilar commodities to be valued according to a agreed upon formula.
It can be anything but the source must be controlled. If money were leaves, we would all be millionaires, but each individual leaf would be valuless because it grew on a tree.
So, if you are going to pay someone, they must do something of value to gain that pay.
If you are just going to put people on the dole, then you are creating a debt that must be paid back in the future by people who do work, or you can print more money and make each exisitng curency unit that much less valuable.
Every extinct civilization in th past has gone this route and crashed hard.
We are actually running the automation experiment in real time in our economy. We went from agrarian to industrial, to automation to globalization.
Global trade is just ofshore automation using cheap people rather than cheap machines but it has the same effect.
Automation taken to its ultimate conclusion leaves us with a population that has nothing to be paid for. You end up looking like Greece, where everyone is a cab driver or a barista.
Sep 20 2012: When you boss pays you a paycheck and you buy gas for your car, part of your paycheck was the energy that got you back and forth to work. So value of the paper money is equated in energy, food, cloths, comfort.... Indirectly, if paper is equal to those objects and conditions, you are being paid not only in energy, but solid forms of matter.
Gas is energy.
Really cheap energy and automated machines could create an environment where we just don't have to work anymore. Once your belly is full and the cloth is on your body, what do you care? Suddenly it's time for fun, games, education, parenting, hanging around with Socrates.
If money becomes worthless, we will just have to exchange our company with one another.
That could be much more fun than slaving away at the grind each and every day.
The only reason Greece needed money was to pay the soldiers to protect them. The slaves did all the work. If automated machines became like slaves, we could live like them. If there was nothing to be protected from, why would we need money?
Sep 20 2012: "You can't pay people in energy, especially if its cheap, then its not worth much. You have to pay people in money."
No, you need energy to make/provide useful goods and services, you might as well pay people in units of energy. Money without energy is useless, energy without money works fine.
Sep 27 2012: Ok, there is a really serious discussion point here - we see the economy / society from a very limited point of view. The real underlying issue (once the bots are doing everything in say 50 to 100 years or so), is RESOURCES ... call it the move from Capitalism to Resourcism.
Resources with continue to become scarcer (until we leave for the stars) and it is the share-out of these finite resources (including nice bits of land on which to live and play) that will be the main issue for the human race - this means new politics - and no-one is thinking about how we move on this yet, even though our children or certainly grandchildren will be faced with this move directly during their lives. Payment is likely to be made (as no one is working) by a 'share' of the resources, these are likely to be swappable and finite as they will reflect precise physical resources (so no inflation et al)
see - Capitalism vs Resourcism and new political structures
Sep 20 2012: Noa: Luckily for all of us, just about every country in the world is "sitting on all that energy", if they would only wake up. Unlike oil and coal, Thorium is so plentiful, that it would not be worth fighting about. See Thorium Energy Alliance for more details, or Youtube. Right now, in the US, Thorium is a waste product they would pay you to take away.
Sep 25 2012: That hasn't been my experience. I used to work in the IT center of a company that made automation products. At first, we were considered skilled for being mainframe operators. Then, as they expanded their IT system to include several server farms, the comm network, databases and apps, etc, we had the added responsibility of monitoring that as well as the mainframe, but we also got classed as unskilled labor, script followers. Unskilled labor aren't paid to think in the business world. They are paid to execute orders and follow rules.
Eventually, the whole dept was outsourced and all but four of us lost our jobs at the height of the recession. I'm still trying to find a job that will allow me to keep my house, but I fear that is not going to happen. The bank is going to get the house and I'll have to file for chapter 7 to avoid paying the difference of what they end up selling it for and what I mortgaged for.
Helen Hupe 30+
Barry Palmer 100+Sep 4 2012: Suppose we automate the jobs no one wants to do, and let humans do the jobs that are interesting, creative, and fun. We could find ourselves enjoying sports, movies, hundreds of tv channels, more music than we could possibly listen to in one lifetime, building space ships, learning lots of things in universities, libraries and on the internet. Does this seem familiar?
Sep 8 2012: That is a problem, and IMO it will get worse before it gets better.
But eventually people will adapt to new jobs, largely in entertainment and service. The bad news is that many of these jobs will not be very challenging. The good news is that most of these jobs will not be onerous. A carpenter once explained that if you find yourself doing hard physical work, you are not using the right tool. And when we are not doing our jobs, our leisure time will be much more fun, like here at TED.
shawn disney 10+Sep 9 2012: Barry: the real problem is that there has never been and never will be any mechanism to guarantee that everyone who wants to work will find a job available. Except, that is, for the Nepotism factor: people who can afford it want to find jobs for their friends and relations, if only to keep them out of trouble. Now with automation and robots, we have to consider what to do with all the "unemployed", the number of which can only increase if Industrialism is doing its job, which is to put "Labor" out of work.. It is a common feeling that people who don't contribute anything to the economy don't deserve much sympathy, unless they are handicapped in some way. Well, we are going to have to get used to the idea that the non-existence of "jobs" is a handicap. Wealthy people have always gotten a pass on all this; no one accuses them of being lazy, etc. So I guess what it comes down to is that we as a society will have to get used to practicing Nepotism for everyone, without feeling remorseful.
In former times, it would be possible to say that we "can't afford" this. But since the invention of unlimited cheap Thorium Power, it is clearly in the cards that such a limitation in only political. The real idea of Socialism is not that far from Nepotism: you want to take care of the people you care about, un-economic or not. And as Proudhon said "Property is Theft", an extreme statement, but which doesn't imply confiscation, only fairness.
Andres Aullet 10+
John Smith 30+
Oct 1 2012: I was not thinking about Keynesian crap. I was in Mexico when computer manufacturing moved from the USA there, and I was also there when the same manufacturing moved from Mexico to China. In both cases, for a period of time, there was a shift from manufacturing to services, but the number of people employed was always less after the manufacturing sector was replaced with the service sector.
If anything, automation would tend to shrink the service sector too... I trust that the human ingenuity is tremendous... but I don't buy on the idea that it can keep creating new economy sectors forever
Leslie BrayOct 1 2012: People who used to be workers find employment in providing new products and services. Human needs are infinite. All parties gain. Consumers gain by increased spending power, Businesses gain by staying in business, Price competition drives price to lowest possible that still makes the process of providing the good or service worth while. Profits above the minimum can only be achieved through Innovation (Joseph Schumpeter) Innovation leads to the creation of new products and services that leads to new employment opportunities.
Steve SaylorOct 1 2012: As long as we stay in our current economic system, automation leads to collapse. No jobs or income? Then we can't sustain the "vicious cycle of consumption". If we change our economic system, automation can free us, can end the starvation and wars. We can manage our resources intelligently (a resource based economy), and get rid of all the occupations and careers which are no longer relevant. We believe that our current system is "real", and has to continue. But it's just a fictional money game that has run its course. Watch "Money In The Future" -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NAxSYF1SAk
Oct 1 2012: ... it NOToptional - the future won't exist for most people (ie the rest die) unless we follow this path - no other conceivable options, to understand why see the 'story' (always an interesting perspective looking back from the future).
Capitalism – Level 2 history notes Nov 25th 2199
cheers JP
Andy KellySep 27 2012: Everyone relates automation to labor, and yes, it is part of the picture. But it needs to be equated to efficiency. Labor reduction is a small part of the justification of a new machine, let's say, in a manufacturing environment. You have quality consistency, space reduction, and less downtime. You also still have the employment of programmers and operators. Point being, just because there is a reduction in labor does not mean it harms our economy. It puts our businesses in a better position to be competitve. Therefore, the business improves and grows creating economy.
Sep 25 2012: This is a tricky subject for me. I can understand the negative consequences of automation. I think you did a great job of highlighting the issue here Mats...so thank you for that.
As you stated Mat...about a displacement to the service sector. These are generally low paying jobs with little possibility for advancement. This result is concerning as we would ultimately like an employment climate that gravitates towards more high paying careers.
However, if the service sector is booming the jobs must be filled. The fact that people are finding employment is a positive. We obviously want a more progressive state for our society. However, I think we sometimes get confused with the real issues.
The current problem is really about education, government policy, and peoples general attitude. None of this is the fault of anybody in particular. I don't think it is healthy to blame anybody for our current state.
If progression is our target then moving forward is the only positive state.
I don't like to post things like this without solutions. Doing so would probably just make me look like a preacher.
1) Let's talk about education!
I think there's much debate about degree over certification or trade. This disparity is an illusion and we need not pay attention to it.
That being said...what you should pay attention to is what you are good at. What are you really good at?
I think it's important to focus on such things because if you don't realize what your good at....come on...how do you realize your potential?
Once you have a subject that makes you feel good inside...go to it. If you utilize passion your every move will be full of energy and desire. This is a necessity...don't look past it as a "hippie concept" :)
As far as degree over certification...just do what's necessary. If you want to be a doctor...guess what?
Just my opinions.
Great post Mats.
neil cheney
John Smith 30+Sep 14 2012: "Will Automation Lead to Economic Collapse?"
It will most likely bring us to the brink of collapse, but doesn't necessarily have to push us over it. Automation is a blessing and we screw that through our current economic system which is the actual problem. A smart society would take advantage of automation by making people work less hours for the same wage to make everyone happier. A stupid society let's half the people work just as many hours as they used to, fires the other half to let them die in the gutter and translates the gain in efficiency into mulit million executive bonuses. It's clear which category our current society falls in, but it doesn't have to stay like that forever.
Sep 14 2012: It is a natural evolution of our species to develop technology and utilize it. People who do not recognize technological automation as a exponentially increasing real thing, need to wake up. As if we are going to stop at the scientific calculator or the iphone. Not only that, but productivity is inverse to employment, so it's irresponsible for us not to try and mechanize and automate wherever possible. Instead, we have an economic system that inhibits this progress by requiring people to perform obsolete tasks, essentially modern day slavery. As for technology creating new jobs, what is everyone going to be working at Facebook just to keep this stupid labor for income 'game' going. Where are the Da Vinci's and Einstein's of our time? I'll tell you, they are serving Subway sandwiches and poking people on Facebook! So to answer your question, will automation lead to an economic collapse? Yes, the collapse is coming, if it hasn't hit already. You look in the news and what do you see everyday, 500 jobs cut here, 3000 jobs cut here.. This is a downward spiral because less people working means less people buying things to keep the economy going. Eventually the majority of people on this planet will be unemployed because corporations are liable to one thing only - profit. Once that happens, a globally conscious effort will need to be made by every individual to change to a more sustainable and humane economic system. Hopefully one without money or credits.
Sep 13 2012: We should also consider the fact that automation has also led to the creation of new jobs as in the software development industry, and not forgetting the jobs that has been created by the internet and online platforms(design/content etc).
Maybe automation leads to a metamorphosis of jobs and not necessarily loss of jobs.
Bill Miller
Sep 13 2012: The much migger impact of automation is to make human life better, and in some cases to make it more secure. Would you rather harvest crops by hand, mine with hand tools, fly to space with analog systems, and clean up radioactive waste yourself? There many more such examples, but when automation comes into play most of them are handles by machines efficiently and securely.
Sep 12 2012: No. Because machines do not have magic in them, they are made by designers, engineers, computer scientists who work hard to make them happen. I believe it is nature of human civilization to make some type of jobs obsolete and to bring new ones into life. Even if machines we have are reducing the need for human factor in industrial jobs, there more types of new jobs that require human knowledge and thinking.
Metro MG
Sep 13 2012: Technician is not necessarily a computer scientist, and fixing machines is very small part of what people have to do with them. Engineers and scientist are needed for many more purpuses that just maintaining existing architecture. It's ok if you think in terms of individual products, but know that behind each product there is hard work of hundreds of people. More specifically in software industry, each great project requires continious collaboration of thousands of individuals to keep up the developnent to fulfill ever changing demands. That is what happens in reality.
Sep 14 2012: I hope, but do not think, that you're right. If it takes a hundred day laborers to work a field, a dozen technicians can do it. Once that system is refined, it scales to other fields easily, instead of needing to find more unskilled workers by the truckload.
Regardless of the demand for programmers and roboticists, the uneducated poor will never have a chance to join these elite. Free, universal, quality education is still a pipe dream. As efficiency goes up, we might have enough food for everyone (I doubt it), and we certainly won't have enough work.
Sep 11 2012: Automation will succeed if and only if the government assumes the initial development of structures and education. In an fully automated society education will be the main resource humans would fill. If we build new cities that are autonomous, with energy and resources, Arts and Science would be our main focus. What do we learn at College? You get a BS or a BA, there is our answer, Education!
Sep 11 2012: That is the problem, our current socioeconomic system is wrong. The Chinese would of been the conquerors of the world but the Emperor recalled the ships when they reached South Africa. Why? So the money would be used to feed the Nation. If we build a whole city with fish farms, indoor gardens and the like, we will benefit in the long run. If the government taxes us for the "poor" well wouldn't it be better to make a productive city for those that need. That would be a start. Once that is in motion our production levels rise. Eventually money as we know it should disappear and a Resource society should arise!
Sep 11 2012: The problem is that the government isn't going to take any initiative nor will the corporations who finance them (and the media) allow anyone to take the initiative. They'll continue to find a way to profit from the situation. It's really up to the people in general to take the initiative to rearrange their own lives to become more community minded and teach essentials like permaculture to their own children and neighbors. The corporate run media isn't going to advertise consciousness for us. We each have to pitch in and do a little ourselves. Finding movements that promote a permacultural lifestyle helps, not joining just one, but all movements that promote sustainability. Using social media to raise consciousness, using the web, and just practicing it in your daily life and 'being the change you want to see in the world' so your friends can see for themselves that the old system is obsolete. Eliminate your debts, don't go into debts, do without what you can't afford and adopt a hunter-gatherer lifestyle to repair, recycle and repurpose waste is a start. Trade with those who are out of work before you buy something new or go to a corporate run service. Use craigslist to find and offer work. Use food or things you own or services instead of currency, before you buy from Waltard. We use old Silk Yogurt containers to store food rather than buy new Tupperware. We haul recyclables to town when we go. We barely have a full trashcan for the trash guys even when we skip a week's pickup. Compost your food scraps. My girl helps at a food pantry in exchange for food that would normally get thrown out. Did you know that Kroger now composts their old produce rather than give it to the local food pantries? How wasteful is that? But that's the corporate mindset. We have to do this ourselves. The government is a joke and we're all the butts. They will continue to spoonfeed hope while accomplishing nothing.
Sep 9 2012: It will definitely change the economy. It will eliminate jobs that less educated people would be applying for, and in my opinion, the best way to fix that is to make college free.
We have free education up until the end of high school - and we're given just enough education to be slaves... to shut up and flip the burgers and mop the floors. Why is it we have to pay thousands of dollars to get 4-6 more years? Imagine the benefit to society overall if everyone had a full college education. Right now, only the wealthy can afford it. So only the wealthy get jobs. If you take out a student loan, you don't get enough to finish. When you do you start your career in horrible debt. Most scholarships are only for a year or two.
The coming technological unemployment mandates free higher education. That education can come in the form of recorded classes online. Colleges spend outrageous money on their lavish buildings. The cost of running free online courses is minimal in comparison - and the benefits are priceless.
Imagine someone becoming a doctor because they care about healing the sick, instead of becoming a doctor so they can buy a yacht (not always the case - but tell me it doesn't happen). I learned my business on my own - no schooling - just the library and the internet. Imagine if the knowledge found here was organized into something the average person didn't have to stumble through for 10 years to find! How much would that really cost when you compare it to paying out unemployment benefits with money that isn't being earned because there are no jobs to tax?
scott leeSep 9 2012: I see 2 main problems with increased automation.
One is runaway productivity, as Tres English explained earlier in the thread.
The other is centralization of wealth. Excessive wealth centralization is dangerous for the economy. People often argue that jobs will move to the service industry, but if all the wealth is moved to a tiny fraction of the population, how many jobs could there possible be to serve them? I don't see any solution to the dilemma. Technology was supposed to make our lives easier, but over the last 40 years people have had to work more and more to get by. There was a time when a single income family could own there own home and raise 4 kids. Now both parents have to work, people put in more overtime, go into student debt just to get a job and are no farther ahead.
Something needs to change so that when robots do the work for us we can celebrate and relax, instead of having to work harder to get by.
Sep 9 2012: today we have bill gates. but walmarts and tescos all around the world does not sit tight waiting for bill gates to finally walk in. people cooperate with each other, work for each other.
you have a total unrealistic view of the world or of the future. wealth does not concentrate in few hands. maybe it does in percentage. but the total sum of wealth in poor people's hands also increasing. that is the direct consequence of markets: in an exchange, both parties benefit. in a capitalist future, there might be some super rich that makes trillions of dollars. but the average fella also will have more than today.
Sep 9 2012: I'm glad you brought up Walmart, since it is a perfect example of my point. People who work at walmart don't make enough money to support their families. Poor people in north america are not better off than they were 40 years ago. They are poorer if you account for inflation and have to work more to survive.
scott leeSep 9 2012: I don't know what the cost of living is in budapest.
Let me ask you this, could you support a wife, 2 children, buy a home, pay for the kids education and have enough to retire? That's what my father did with a grade 12 education. This is what I mean when I say that the middle class is in fact not richer than a generation ago.
Sep 9 2012: now wait a second. nobody said you are richer than a generation ago. i said the free markets bring progress. you don't have that now. not since the "progressive" era gradually destroyed it. this fall in real wages is a very nice example why we don't need government interventions. you will see more of it.
Sep 9 2012: The state of affairs reminds me of a turn of the 20th century communist prescription to capitalism's future. "You can't fix a problem with thinking that allowed the problems to start."" New evils must be fought with new innovation" Who are you, Krisztian, to say someone has a total unrealistic view of the world? How does wealth justify the suffering and injustices classes of wealth creates? People's whole value system and goals in life have a dollar sign attached or some material object to be cyclically consumed and not the real intrinsic value of quality, thoughtful consideration to posterity, and self-fulfillment we all owe ourselves before we die. The average fella is gonna keep taking whatever the government will give him as he's getting workied more and more to maintain profits in the face of automation until we experience economic meltdown or continued wars from failure to adapt.
Sep 9 2012: it is kind of a pity that these false statements are around for 150 years refuted. so what do i do? give up, for if 150 years was not enough, we have no hope? depressing. or should i just open up any web page refuting marxism, and copy-and-paste stock answers to these stock questions? or should, as i used to, try to find some entertainment value for myself in trying new ways to shine light on things. but i find less and less satisfaction in it.
Sep 9 2012: Only a couple problems with your history lesson. The internet wasn't available until recently. Since change in technology is happening exponetially, the current economic model can't keep up. I'm all for free enterprise and capitalism but it's current condition is riddled with corruption and in the fact can't keep up with the imbalance of collapsing demand due to the death of competition.
l aresuSep 10 2012: i do agree so much with you scott, and your fears are mine and many many million people around the world. if you don't have read it already have a look at jeremy rifkin's "the end of work" that deals exactly with this topic and gives a gleam of hope. i'm worried as you're about an excess of automation as i don't believe that there is a solution with mass-employment in view of the loss of so many working places. my parents have greatly enhanced their living conditions compared to the condition of my grandparents. they'd got better salary, incredibly more rights (as payed vacation, they were payed if they got ill ecc..) while i belong to a generation that's swimming in a swamp, with little or no guaranties at all, nor for working conditions nor for retirement, it's the first generation since many decades where the sons get it worse than their parents.
Sep 3 2012: Yes automation will contribute to the next collapse. The question is who benefits and who suffers from the collapse.
The benefits will always fall to those individuals whose fortunes remain through limited liability and/or taxpayer bailout money. These are the players in "national" and "global" economies. After the collapse they seize the opportunity to exploit the newly expanded and increasingly desperate work force. Isn't globalization beautiful!
A more pressing question is where does all this leave local economies?
pat gilbert 100+Sep 1 2012: NO, look at how farming once the vast majority of employment is now way less than 5%, Manufacturing is similar. The jobs just go to other areas.
This video speaks to this subject:
Sep 9 2012: Farming was automated and former farmers became factory workers. Factories automated (and outsourced). Former factory workers became medical billing clerks which automated and former medical billing clerks became landscape maintenance workers. Landscape maintenance was automated and former landscape workers became pool cleaning service owners. Pool cleaning was automated and former pool cleaners became general laborers. General labor was automated and former laborers became organic farmers. Organic farming was automated and. . . .
Sep 9 2012: The disparaging tenor of my words is fitting for the subject; which I understand to be the effect of continuing automation on the economy. My hypothesis is that automation carried to its ultimate application (no human contribution necessary) will cause the collapse of the economy. The past hundred years cannot be the continuing model for displaced workers. Sooner, or later if EVERYTHING is automated people will have no means of purchasing.
Sep 9 2012: The evidence indicates the opposite.
Why I could even envision where a feller could make his living and retire by doing nothing more than making engineering drawings for other fellers? Of course Auto Cad or Solid Works with FEA could put him out of business? Wait a minute that did not occur.
Of course there will be causalities buggy whip manufacturers and the like. The prognosticators say that most people will not have just one career. Should we do away with Google to keep the librarians gainfully employed should we start a local chapter of the Luddites?
My grandfather will tell the story of how fellers would come out to his fathers ranch and dig a water well with a drill instead of shovels, he said that is what I'm going to do for a living. If Star Trek is any indication everyone on the show seemed to be busy.
In fact I would go so far as to say to do otherwise violates mankind's prime directive.
P.S. This video indicates the senior datum for a successful life in the future and the past.
Sep 10 2012: Displacement and retraining can only go on for so long. As automation replaces more people eventually when 100% automation is reached there wil be no non-automated jobs for people to be retrained for. I repeat, "The past hundred years cannot be the continuing model for displaced workers". The question is: will automation cause economic collapse. I say once all humans are outplaced the answer will be YES.
Sep 10 2012: Why was the gross product of the world in 1900 1 trillion and today is 70 trillion? The automation has never been as high as it is now while the employment has never been higher.
The last 100 years is the indicator of the future. Perhaps what you are missing is the specialized jobs that will have to be performed.
Sep 17 2012: "Why was the gross product of the world in 1900 1 trillion and today is 70 trillion? The automation has never been as high as it is now while the employment has never been higher."
Employment was higher 100 years ago: people worked more hours, kids worked, less people spent many years at school, less people were pensioners. Also, are you sure that $1 trillion GDP in 1900 figure accounts for inflation? The world's population is four times as high as it was in 1900.
The truth is that automation has destroyed job opportunities but that's ok: I don't particularly fancy leaving school at age 12 to work 60 hours a week until the day I die.
edward long 100+Sep 1 2012: Hypothetically 100% automation means the only essential human labor will be controlling the automated processes aka robots-- unless, of course, that too is automated. If there is no labor, how will people earn wages to buy the stuff and the services the robots are providing? How will the autonomous robots establish and maintain the support infrastructure to keep themselves running? Why will the robots keep making stuff and providing services if nobody is buying any of it? Sounds like economic collapse to me.
Sep 9 2012: edward : you have pointed out a real problem. But it need not lead to collapse. Consider my former life in the US army.: money was not really an issue. We had chores, like KP, but no one had to be "paid" for it. In ancient armies , such as the Romans, the troops did farming in their spare time, and supported themselves. Large groups of people , like the Amish, function in similar ways. Kind of a monastic life, not big on Fun Things, like buying and showing off expensive stuff, but still quite humane. As long as there is no War.
Sep 9 2012: If the definition of "economy" is the management of income and expenditures then currency is subsumed. What you suggest is that where there is no economy ($) there is no possibility of economic collapse. I disagree. The Amish system must collapse in an extended drought or persistent crop failure. They might try to establish a non-agricultural commercial endeavor but that would be replaced by automation and we are back to economic collapse. The Army runs on currency even though the dogfaces don't see much of it. "Free lunch" (welfare) programs run on currency even though the beneficiaries don't see much other than coupons and vouchers. Cash is the written evidence that commerce has occured. If commerce is 100% automated there is no buying power for the displaced workers and there is no need for cash for the non-consuming robots. . . . economic collapse. People gotta work!
Sep 10 2012: A robotic utopia seems like a good solution. Each individual is given an annual amount of credits (which basically translate into something like total energy produced / number of people). You could exchange those credits for what you need to survive or pool them with other people to have new novel things created - but the robots would be handling the "back end" of society so to speak. Marshall Brain does a fantastic job outlining this in his book ROBOTIC NATION which you can get for free online.
Sep 10 2012: That simply replaces currency with credits and is still an economy. Are the robots going to sustain themselves and perpetually exist simply to altruistically meet all of our human needs for products and services? The question being debated here is not about "the back end of society", or some limited use of automation. TOTAL automation will cause economic collapse.
Tres EnglishSep 1 2012: I wouldn't say that automation by itself if meaningful. The problem is runaway productivity. Automation is only one way to achieve that. (Think the waiter in the restaurant that takes your order on a hand-held device that places the order with the cook, makes an entry in the sales receipt, and deducts the materials from inventory.)
Every time you hear that productivity has increased by two percent, you need to think that either labor costs (employment and/or wages) must decrease by 2%, OR consumption must increase by 2%. In the first case, this leads to our current jobless recovery and eventual economic collapse. In the second case, it leads to eventual ecological collapse.
Automation is only one way to cause runaway productivity.
Oct 1 2012: We should approach this topic from a pure economic perspective and the best way to do that is to measure the overall welfare of the economy before and after automation. We can all agree that, because of automation, there would be gains to certain groups and losses to other groups. We should notice that, if the gains are of greater absolute value than the losses, then the argument must support automation.
First of all, we should look at why producers look towards automation. It is because of the fact that they are trying to reduce costs and produce their product at the lowest possible price. In other words, they are trying to achieve competitive advantage in order to gain market share and increase profitability. This act will eventually lower the prices of the products for consumers. From this, we can see that automation causes a gain for the producers (businesses) and a gain for the consumers (note that people that work at businesses are also consumers). The problem with automation arises from the fact that people lose their jobs as a result. This is the loss associated with automation (note that the people being laid off are also consumers of other products).
So we can see that automation provides the economy with large gains to large groups (producers and consumers) but causes a loss to a small group (laid off workers). This is where the emotional argument against automation comes in. The individual that is laid off may suffer more in absolute value (loss) than a certain individual gains from the process of automation. We should notice that the companies are better off with automation, but would still be better off even if they were to pay these few existing employees their salaries until they died (sure, they would have to pay these people for not doing the work, but the long run benefits would still outweigh these short run costs).
In other words, consumers gain, producers gain, and some workers lose, but the economy experiences a net gain.
Oct 1 2012: "We should notice that, if the gains are of greater absolute value than the losses, then the argument must support automation."
No, you can't just "notice" that. A society where 1 million people make 20k is much better than one where 999.990 people make 2k and 10 people make 15bn. Now of course things would be different with redistribution...
"So we can see that automation provides the economy with large gains to large groups (producers and consumers) but causes a loss to a small group (laid off workers). This is where the emotional argument against automation comes in."
Most consumers are workers themselves, so if not enough replacement jobs are provided quickly enough the number of unemployed can reach very high levels and the impact on society would not be negligible.
Oct 1 2012: That is the premise of my argument; my argument is based on a purely economic perspective; no emotions involved.
You give a certain scenario and state that the prior is "better" than the latter. How do you measure better? I use the one dollar, one vote metric; you do not.
The cost to society would be less than the gain; as others have said, job creation would move towards different sectors and prices would be pushed downward (the income effect of price change should be noted here).
It's really simple.
Jacob MSep 29 2012: Even if automation eventually lead us to nirvana, we might all burn on the way there in the riots that may ensue.
Rapid automation is certain to create vast pools of unemployed whose skills are no longer required. No alternative jobs that produce tangible goods will be awaiting. Some form of goods and services redistribution will need to be devised before people go cold and hungry.
Let say miraculously, the new economical equilibrium is achieved. All physical or routine mental jobs are automated so 99% population don't need to work. All goods and services are delivered by robots to each individual.
What will happen to the people? You can start by watching "Wall-E" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WALL-E
Think of typical side effects when people are not busy or challenged:
1) they procreate -- can automation solve issues resulting from geometric population growth?
2) they seek thrills -- resulting in risky behavior, drug use
3) they want more -- more stuff, more control over others, new social orders, revolutions, radicalism ...
So to avert these, everyone would have to be occupied with mental and physical activities to keep them busy or else suffer the consequences.
Good Luck.
[ Pragmatic Understanding of Trade Imbalance http://ideabits.blogspot.com/ ]
Sep 29 2012: Only one basic problem; If, for the sake of argument, we say that robots can create any product or service a human being can provide, there is still one fundamental thing a robot will ~never~ do: ~BUY~ the product or service it creates!
Within the framework of our present economic culture, there are only two ways this could work; either we create sentient androids that can buy the products & services they create (they'd have to be paid & then they would totally replace us) OR we fundamentally change our socio-economic structure into... what? Robotically enhanced Socialism, where we all equally benefit? Doesn't look bloody likely!
Let's not ignore the parallel development of recombinant DNA. Within 40 years Biotech will provide the means to increase life spans by 100-200% and arrest the ageing process. Not to mention increased intellect, strength, durability, vision, etc, etc. Who will benefit from these mega-enhancements? It will NOT be egalitarian, it will only be available to the rich & powerful among us (the .001%). If it were applied to the masses it could be a disaster, there aren't enough resources available for the present (short lived) world population. These procedures could cost millions of dollars, whomever becomes the 'Bill Gates' of the Biotech Company providing these enhancements could become a multi-trillionaire.
The gap between the 'haves & have nots' is about to increase by ~several orders of magnitude~! These lucky few may be considered to be Homo Sapiens 2.0, and who better to lead/rule society?! (I suspect that these 'super beings' will consider themselves as Homo Sapiens 1.0, the rest of us were just beta models.)
Combine this with a robotically run society including robotic police & armies and a very unsettling & downright scary future can easily be imagined.
Sep 29 2012: Mats: If automation is as successful as it has been , and is likely to be, that can only mean more "production", of goods and services. So the "problem" of having everyone on welfare, with few or no taxpayers is only a problem if one insists that our economy remains in its present form: using "salaries" as sources of "money" which at present is actually a combination of Bookkeeping, credit , and Debt. But as long as the "stuff", food, etc. is produced, there is no reason we couldn't run it without "taxpayers" or money, or debt. Of course, there would have to be something like money, because we need to keep track of things. In the Army, years ago, there was very little salary, even that was not needed. No debt, etiher, except maybe for playing Poker. To sum up, the Free Enterprise , "Capitalist" system has pretty much run into its limits: a very few people got most of the "money", to the point where there is not enough "Consumption" to keep it all going. I hope that the next economic model is more like that of a wealthy clan: i.e. you take care of your members , whether they are efficient or not, because they are your relatives. Now we know that , like it or not, all people are actually ARE our relatives, annoying as it may be.
Sep 28 2012: I presume (having not referenced this, as yet) automation would result in at least a few significant effects on society: (1) Development of new skilled jobs and production chains, for design, engineering, and production of the tools of automation; (2) Smaller labor forces, in automated tasks; (3) Technical jobs creation, for employees operating and maintaining the machines of any newly automated part of a production line.
From the bluesky point of view, I'd like to think it could also result in more leisure time for workers - therefore more opportunities for community involvement, and probably more local economic involvement consequently. I'm afraid that's not been the case, though, in how it's been working out so far, in the US. (I think it seems bleak to me, personally, in how it's been working out so far - namely, as starting with work weeks far exceeding the typical 40 hour "norm" being not uncommon at all, to my understanding, and following from that, also less community involvement in society, and less local economic interaction, consequent with the diminished leisure time.)
Considering automation, specifically, there are tasks that cannot be usefully automated - so simple as landscaping and gardening and so complex as expert medical work. Regardless of how far automation would proceed, in mass production industries, no doubt jobs will still exist for fulfilling those tasks, in society.
As far as possible unemployment resulting from automation, in regards to the situation of being layed off if a plant becomes newly automated, that would not be an end to one's employability, of course. Retraining and horizontal job shift become possible, at least at the transition.
Considering economic shift, the number of economic flows in a society is not limited to those passing through an automated production chain. Without analysis, I wouldn't want to blame machinery for economic difficulty, . (In fact, I'd probably look at management, first. ;)
Intriguing questions
Sep 27 2012: Ok, there is a really serious discussion point here - we see the economy / society from a very limited point of view. The real underlying issue (once the bots are doing everything in say 50 to 100 years or so), is RESOURCES ... call it the move from Capitalism to Resourcism.
Resources with continue to become scarcer (until we leave for the stars) and it is the share-out of these finite resources (including nice bits of land on which to live and play) that will be the main issue for the human race - this means new politics - and no-one is thinking about how we move on this yet, even though our children or certainly grandchildren will be faced with this move directly during their lives. Payment is likely to be made (as no one is working) by a 'share' of the resources, these are likely to be swappable and finite as they will reflect precise physical resources (so no inflation et al)
see - Capitalism vs Resourcism and new political structures


text:
While I was doing research on the takfiri movement, I came across a remarkable February 1982 article on Egypt's Islamist movements in the journal of the (leftist) Middle East Research and Information Project (MERIP) -- MERIP Reports. The author, Saad Eddin Ibrahim, interviewed imprisoned members of Takfir wal- Hijra and the "Military Academy" group during 1978- early 1979 time frame. Being that the bulk of the research for the article was completed before the dramatic events of 1979 or Anwar Sadat's assassination in October 1981, the insights gained from the interviews are untainted by the repercussions of those years.
It's a snap-shot into the jihadist mindset before it became a self- consciously global movement. What's surprising is how consistent that message has been since the 1970s:
Even more surprising is how stable the profile of the "average" Islamic militant since their emergence on the international scene in the 1970s. Long before Marc Sageman's ground-breaking work on militant Islamist profiles, Ibrahim described the "typical social profile" of the militants he interviewed:
It makes me wonder why our analytical institutions have been so bad at recognizing and understanding the threat from militant Islam, decade after decade. It's not like this enemy has changed much since the 1970s. As a matter of fact, its very lack of change is a testament to the enduring power of the message.

subset: commoncrawl


text:
OpenGL Loader Generation 2.0 now supports OpenGL 4.4
Jul 22, 2013
The OpenGL Loader Generator version 2.0 provides full loading support for OpenGL 4.4 and the most recent OpenGL extensions.
Category: Developers •
Posted on 07/22 at 03:50 PM
Leave a comment
Commenting is not available in this weblog entry.
Next entry: Full OpenGL 4.4 on Mobile Devices: NVIDIA's Mobile Kepler
Previous entry: GLEW 1.10.0 supports OpenGL 4.4


text:
Once again Japan has knocked our socks off with its capacity for creating cuteness, this time in the form of real, functioning bus stops modeled after an exceptionally sweet scene from My Neighbor Totoro.
The first stop pictured above is located in Saikai City in Nagasaki, and includes a large Totoro statue that gets revamped every few years.
The second bus stop is "for an area known as "Totoro" (ととろ) in Oita Prefecture, which Facebook user Rebecca Terada recently checked out. Nearby, there are even little stone Totoros and a catbus you can pose with. Likewise, this is a real, working bus stop."
So now, when we finally get that Japanese field trip organized, we can add "Wait at the bus stop for the Catbus with Totoro" to our to-do list.
Visit Kotaku for more photos of Japan's wonderful real-life Totoro bus stops.


text:
Items in Cart:
Mandela Presidential Inauguration 1994 Five Rand Coin. Forty ( x 40 ) coins are available. All are in similar high grade condition. Your bid is per coin and you may bid for any number between 1 and 40.
10 Days: For any reason you may return the item in an unaltered condition within 10 days for a full refund. You pay for the return postage.


text:
Winter Wonderland WLS Wagon; DECEMBER 2012
I'm trying not to obsess to much about my surgery tomorrow, so I thought I'd start the December thread! :D
This month, I want to hear about all the changes, challenges and victories you're celebrating as the year draws to a close!
Mine: I'm getting my sleeve tomorrow. I started the process in March of this year, so my whole year (nearly) has been focused on getting me here.... after years of contemplation and failures. I feel like I am saying goodbye to the old me along with 2012.
How exciting Gymnopedie! :jumpjoy:
Take some lip balm/chapstick to the hospital. OHHH! Take a magazine or book and your phone charger too. Be sure to walk the hospital halls as soon as they let you. It will help with any gas and help circulation with your legs.
I am sorry I have been flaking out on "our" threads.
I am going to start checking in (not just lurking) at least once a day. It really helps me stay focused and I miss yall!
I have been de-cluttering our house. This project may take a year to get done but I am determined to do it. I did the kitchen and part of the laundry room not too long ago (2 weeks maybe). Spent 3-4 days with a sinus infection and what the doctor is calling a complex kidney infection.
Laundry is my nemesis! I have a carload of clothes to donate or take to the consignment shop. Honestly, I am not sure it is worth my time to make sure stuff is not wrinkled and put it all on hangers to get it to a consignment shop. If anyone here is interested in some size 20/22/24 clothes and lives near DFW, please let me know. Most of it is from Macy's or Lane Bryant. It annoys me to no end to get rid of things I wore 2-3 times. Heck it annoys me to get rid of my favorites too. :lol:
I am still losing...ever so slowly. I am going to go walk at lunch on the days it is nice out. Pfft I am going to start wearing my fitbit too.
Okay- time to start laundry and throw some chicken on the grill.
Last week I got to the gym 5 days in a row by packing my bag and going straight there after work. I made it an extension of my work day. I started with that again this week. Felling good because it's 5pm, I'm home and my workout is already done. I felt so good as I was driving home, so I ask myself again, Why do I ever avoid working out when it feels soooo good and burns up all my left over work stress before I get home? I need to remember this feeling next time I want to skip.
I wasn't sure about the consignment issue either- what I do is prep only my best stuff that I think has a chance of selling. I haven't made a ton of $ but what I have made I've used to buy things from the consignment store, which of course I will try to re-consign when they no longer fit. Sometimes though I find it is just easier to "set things free" and donate. I figure it'd building good karma and plus sized clothing is something a lot of low income women really need.
Hi Jesse! I am amazed at how much broken stuff we have. I gave away 11 pots/pans and we still have quite a few. Getting rid of stuff really feels pretty freeing. It is much easier just to "set things free" and donate for me.
Heather! What is the FB page called? :confused: I guess I don't know what to look for on FB. I wouldn't mind selling the good stuff even if it goes cheap (money is always a bonus at Christmas time).
This one is specific to Midlothian. It's a secret group that only lets you in if you are in town or in a neighboring town. I happened across it by word of mouth. Maybe you could do a search for your town and the word shopping or something. I bet there is one, there are about 5-6 for my area and it's not a big area!
Thank you! :shake:
Today I have someone leaving me $10 for a wooden shelf, $45 for a dog crate, $12 for some books and watches, $1 for some napkin rings, $12 for a mini straightener, $2 for some salad tongs and I forget what the other thing was. :) But yeah, all while I'm at my regular job. I don't really worry about theft because they are all people I've dealt with before or seen dealing quite a bit on there. If it's someone I don't know or never see posting then I meet them at CVS or something or have them do a porch pickup while my husband and I are home. :)
Checking in for the month...my goal for the month is to lose 10lbs of regain :( I MADE myself get on the scale this morning...:annoyed: I didn't like what it said, but then again it's my fault. It also was not as bad as I imagined. I would like finish the year strong! My 2 year surgiversay is this month. :eek: Cannot believe it has been that long. I must say that I still have great restriction when I am not scarfing slider carbs. :D
Two years is when it started to be hardest for me. :( I'm hitting 20 months now and 3 years in March.
I made it through the surgery... I feel like I've been hit by a train! :D
I left the hospital on full liquids, but all I really feel like right now is ice chips. I can't burp to save my life, but I am passing gas some.
How did you all deal with the gas? This is almost unbearable! I've been walking as much as I can.
Welcome back, Gymnopedie! My abdominal gas pain was awful, but it disappeared overnight the second day after surgery. So glad I was asleep for that :) I also had many weeks of burping/gas when eating. That eventually subsided, too.
Spent last night in ER for kidney pain/infection due to not being able to get down enough liquids from being nauseous. I'm over 10 wks pregnant now and I've lost over 10 lbs just since I found out about 6 wks ago. They gave me a script for Zofran, seems to be helping the nausea some so far. They think it will help so I can get down more liquids. This is all new to me, I was never sick like this with my other pregnancies! Now I'm going back to read on how all of you are doing!
As of yesterday I am back in losing weight mode. I am 38 pounds from goal and I want to go all the way.
Yeah, your home:jumpjoy::jumpjoy: congrats and welcome to the losers bench. You are in for a wonderful, exciting ride. I have never been happier. I feel like the missing piece of my life in back. I not only feel complete and like a new person but i have so much confidence and I wish you and Chewie have as great of a journey as I have had.
I don't know why but I didn't have gas. They say walk, walk, walk to get it moving. One of the best things I can say to you.....at this stage never trust a fart for the first few weeks.
If you have any questions we are here for you.
I just realized Monday was my five month surgerversary! 97.5 pounds and 65 1/2 inches gone including my 15 pound preop loss. I am down 112.5 pounds from my all time high. I am 5'8" tall and I have almost lost my height!! Wow
Pre-surgery I had nightly, awful, battery-acid-like reflux. I haven't had a single heartburn episode since surgery.
Celebration for today: realizing that the back part of my bra no longers rolls up due to back fat. It's the little things that mean so much......
Here are my photos.....
Me at 297, my highest was 301
Today at 188
my photos are always so big here. I have the settings set at photobucket for small too! so sorry about the size.
Chrissykins you have transformed!! You look simply wonderful. I do have one critique however ~ your smaller jeans are now too big. Go buy some even smaller jeans! :jumpjoy:
I do see a trip south of the border in my future. I am going to need a few nips and tucks.
Hi Everyone! Just a fly-by now - I wasn't looking for the December thread - forgot it had started... I will be back for specifics, but wanted to say the gas will pass (did I really just say that!) quickly, and the results will be so worth it!
So cool to hear about people exercising, eating right, and having success. Chrissy your pics are awesome!
|All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:40 PM.


text:
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
This week the only limiting factor for the arena is finding one big enough for Morchok. There however seems to also be the question of how often spells can be spammed so for the sake of balance it will be as often as they are in normal groups. Sorry blink spam fans.
Jaina does appear to have the advantage of intelligence being a powerful mage but remember Morchok is an ancient earth elemental and never discount age. That said we should consider speed a bit and the matter of flarecore. With normal fight parameters in there Morchok probably won't be hitting all of them if at all. Too busy stomping and squishing Jaina with stomp and crush armor. Since this is mano-y-mano Jaina is gonna to be taking that double stomp damage. Jaina is also getting that stacking debuff by herself (no mirror images remember). Now I've had the mishap of the other tank thinking he was dps on his fight and I was forced to take 9 stacks of that debuff. 90% armor reduction! Thats more damage taken leading to a faster kill. Yes Jaina can blink and then use frost blades. But what if Morchok uses Earthen Vortex right after? Oops! Or perhaps a resonating crystal? Even if Jaina blinks to the crystal she still gets damage when it goes off.
Morchok is an ancient earth elemental determined to crush Wyrmrest temple and any in his way of that goal. Time twisted Jaina is an echo of her former self. The Jaina of now and certainly the one in Mists can fell Morchok, but not the shell of her in this fight.


text:
Monday, Nov. 12
9:25 a.m. –A landscaper at Clarke Middle School reported finding a large amount of golf balls on the middle school grounds, and that it appeared as though someone might have been hitting, throwing or shooting them toward the school building.
9:56 a.m. – A call came in reporting a tree company dropped a tree across Burlington Street, almost striking a passing vehicle. An investigation is ongoing.
1:28 p.m. – Police responded to a report of a past breaking-and-entering to a motor vehicle on Sherburne Road.
8:10 p.m. – A wallet was reportedly found on Mass Ave.
11:15 p.m. – Police responded to a report of suspicious persons on Dover Lane.
Tuesday, Nov. 13
11:44 a.m. – Police responded to a reported rollover with entrapment in the area of routes 2 and 128/95. State Police handled.
12:35 p.m. – Wilson Farm reported a ma spotted shoplifting then became confrontational. As a result of the police response, Farid J. Louis, 69, of 247 Concord Ave., was arrested and charged with shoplifting by asportation. Louis was allegedly trying to steal about $20 worth of groceries, including cheese and apples.
4:37 p.m. – A Mass Ave. resident reported her 13-year-old son didn't come home from school. According to the incident report, the son called shortly thereafter to say he had gone to a friend's house.
8:50 p.m. – Police responded to a reported civil dispute on Bedford Street.
Wednesday, Nov. 14
11:51 a.m. – Animal control followed-up on a nuisance dog report on Butterfield Road.
12:47 p.m. – Animal control was notified of a dog complaint from Cary Avenue.
2:48 p.m. – Police responded to a report of glass in the roadway on Waltham Street.
4:09 p.m. – The Recreation Department reported the fence surrounding thetennis courts at Clarke Middle School had been cut with wire cutters sometime between Nov. 9 and Nov. 14, and a "no private lessons" sign taken down .
7:09 p.m. – A member of the town facilities department reported about $1,500 damage was done to a door and window at Lexington High School. The incident is under investigation.
Thursday, Nov. 15
2:17 a.m. – Police responded to a reported breaking and entering to a motor vehicle on Chase Avenue.
9:13 a.m. – A suspicious person was reported on Bridge Street.
11:48 a.m. – A Lexigton High student reported to the school resource officer that he and three friends were jumped by a 6-foot white male in a sweatshirt and jeans, resulting in a cut on his head. The alleged assault too place between 5:30 and 6:30 p.m. the previous day, Nov. 14, somewhere on Clarke Street. The incident is under investigation.
12:09 p.m. – Police responded to a reported past breaking-and-entering to a motor vehicle on Sherburne Road.
12:21 p.m. – A mailbox post was reportedly damaged overnight on Peacock Farm Road.
1:47 p.m. – A teenaged girl reported a man in a wheel chair made what she considered to be a rude comment to her when she encountered him on Park Drive. Police are investigating.
4:41 p.m. – A past breaking-and-entering to a motor vehicle was reported on Peacock Farm Road.
5:07 p.m. – A guest at a Bedford Street hotel reported sometime on Nov. 14, her room was broken into and $2,000 of items missing. It's under investigation.
9:25 p.m. – A Paul Revere Road resident reported receiving several threatening phone calls. It's under investigation.


text:
Is It Selfish to Not Want Children?
- Thursday, August 23, 2012
To be specific, 1 Corinthians 1:1 cautions that it is better to live unmarried if you don't want the distractions of family life. But, if we are honest with ourselves and not being over-spiritual, this is largely because in biblical times birth control varied from "nonexistent" to "highly ineffective." If you had sex regularly, you were likely going to get pregnant at some point. With today's modern medicine that is no longer the case.
Many people will probably tell you that the Bible does mandate children. However, it would be more correct to say that biblical writers were thankful for children and considered children a blessing. If you notice, God never speaks to childless couples admonishing them for living childless lives. Many biblical figures cried out in agony to God, longing for children which they couldn't have… but God is never seen approaching any biblical individual to request that he or she have some kids.
That being said, I have some cautions. As a follower of Christ, I believe you have this responsibility:
"You must accept whatever situation the Lord has put you in, and continue on as you were when God first called you" (1 Corinthians 1:17).
If you are able to find a husband who is fine with not having children (and believe me, they do exist) and you were to become pregnant, it would be your responsibility to accept that situation. Children are a natural fruit of sex- and if you aren't willing to deal with the possibility of children, it would be safer to remain unmarried.
And, honestly, it is true: your feelings may change. My older sister grew up fairly terrified of children and is now the beautiful mother of three. She still doesn't really care for children, but she really likes her own! God provides for mothers in that way. For that reason, I would caution you not to rush into any permanent surgery. You may find a wonderful man who would like to have children someday, and he may end up convincing you.
Regardless of the future, however, I want you to be at peace. Not all women were meant to be mothers. God is concerned with your heart and your life, not with how many babies you produce. Don't let anyone make you feel guilty for not wanting kids! If anyone says to you "God told Adam to be fruitful and multiply!" – feel free to say, as Hodel reminds the overzealous Perchik in the classic musical Fiddler on the Roof, "Yes, but he was not speaking to you personally."
HE is … Cliff young, a Crosswalk.com contributing writer and a veteran single of many decades. He has traveled the world in search of fresh experiences, serving opportunities, and the perfect woman (for him) and has found that his investments in God, career and youth ministry have paid off in priceless dividends.
SHE is … Debbie Wright, Assistant Editor for Family Content at Crosswalk. She lives in Glen Allen, Virginia and is an avid writer, reader, and participant in local community theatre.
DISCLAIMER: We are not trained psychologists or licensed professionals. We're just average folk who understand what it's like to live the solo life in the twenty-first century. We believe that the Bible is our go-to guide for answers to all of life's questions, and it's where we'll go for guidance when responding to your questions. Also, it's important to note that we write our answers separately (we think they sound eerily similar sometimes, too!).
GOT A QUESTION? If you've got a question about anything related to singleness or living the single life, please submit it to he said-she said (selected questions will be posted anonymously). While we are unable to answer every inquiry, we do hope that this column will be an encouragement to you. Click here to visit the he said-she said archives.
Publication date: August 23, 2012
Recently on He Said-She Said
Editors' Picks
Have something to say about this article? Leave your comment via Facebook below!
Related Articles
Listen to Your Favorite Pastors
Add Crosswalk.com content to your siteBrowse available content


text:
History |
View |
Annotate |
only use important part of Received header. Fixed status output.
win32: convert locale filename to UTF-8.
added APIs for global configuration. Added no-bias option.
Add GDBM support.Add mode switch for standalone and libsylph app.
Made the license BSD-like one.
implemented debug mode switch.
handle URL in word separator.
added built-in libsylph, and use it from textcontent-filter.c.
also parse specific headers.
modified interface of XFilter result. Added API to open/close bayes db.
added a function to read message files.
Initial commit


text:
SINGLE FAMILY HOME: 3 bed, 2 full bath. Wonderful Well Cared for Home & yard & Pool. Long term owner. Lovely from the first step in to theMore info
SINGLE FAMILY HOME: 2 bed, 1 full bath. Cute home with vintage touches and serene yard, at this price it will sell fast!More info
CONDOMINIUM UNIT: 2 bed, 1 full bath, 1 half bath. Wow!! What a beautiful condo!! Gorgeous tile floors through out the kitchen, family room and dininMore info
MULTI-FAMILY HOME: 8 bed, 6 full bath. The government sponsored agencies Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac own this property after foreclosing onMore info
SINGLE FAMILY HOME: 2 bed, 1.00 full bath. This property is Real Estate Owned, or REO. The property was foreclosed and repossessed by a lenderMore info
SINGLE FAMILY HOME: 4 bed, 3 full bath. Ready for country living? Come see this beautiful home in very desirable location! Near UC & YosemiMore info
RAW LAND: . 1.6 acre commercial parcel with 243 feet of frontage on M Street. Property is in a PD Zone. BrokereMore info
SINGLE FAMILY HOME: 4 bed, 3 full bath.More info
COMMERCIAL BUILDING: . Brokered And Advertised By: CB Commercial, Gonella Realty Listing Agent: Dan GallagherMore info
SINGLE FAMILY HOME: 4 bed, 3 full bath. Just like new this beautiful home features light lovely laminate floor in the downstairs where therMore info


text:
Mick LaSalle
Chronicle film critic Mick LaSalle tells you what he really thinks
Monthly Archive for August, 2008
Fast Food, Slow Food
By the way, we all know that fast food is evil and slow food is virtuous, right? Maybe, but there's something to be said for medium-velocity food, food where you actually get to eat in less than two and a half hours. I'm here by myself for this last leg of the festival and just […] [Read More]
L'Autre and The Perfect Day
Last year, despite the fact that I spent most of my time watching the foreign films, Venice had a lot of Hollywood-type movies, but this year it's very much a foreign film festival, with a big concentration of home-grown Italian product. This morning, or whatever it is by you, I saw an Italian film called […] [Read More]
Another Day in Venice
The above is a news report that was running a few hours before I arrived here. I include it because the press conference generated a lot of talk in Europe, but I'm not sure it got any coverage in the USA. Big suitcases rolling on cobblestone and going down stone steps. Some of the sounds […] [Read More]
Venice Day One
Upon arriving in Venice, the hopelessness of containing the full scale of the Venice Film Festival becomes obvious. It's a flood of screenings and a constant flow of talent, in and out of the city, and you can't get the whole thing, only a piece of it. Last night, as the crowd gathered to see […] [Read More]
More on Travels and Traveling
So I go into a cafe and I want to ask, using that complicated mix of the subjunctive and the conditional, "If I have coffee, can I have it outside." But instead I say, "If it were to have coffee, I would be outside." I seem to be avoiding it in this construction. I will […] [Read More]
The August 22nd Podcast — on August 21st!
Listen: 32:36 min (Download Audio 15.67 MB) [Read More]
More Ruminations
I just ate in what's supposed to be — and seemed to me to be — the best restaurant in Urbino, in the Marche region of Italy, and there were only five tables filled in this huge place. So reports of a recession might not be exaggerated here. The restaurant is called Ristorante Vecchia Urbino, […] [Read More]
This Is Going to Have to Be Fast . . . And Rock and Roll
. . . because I have eight minutes before my internet time expires. If any of you go to Rome in the next few months, I'll be curious of your impressions. This was my fourth time in seven years, and while the city, of course, was amazing, the people in the service professions were just […] [Read More]
At any given time, there's the same amount of splendor in the world. The great and persistent mistake of middle age is to look in the places where splendor used to be and, not finding it, conclude that splendor is disappearing. And the great and persistent mistake of old age is to look around and […] [Read More]
Travel Tips and Prescience at the Breakfast Bar
Has anybody set a movie or an important scene at a hotel breakfast bar? And if not, why not? It's all here, the parade of humanity. Do people who make movies just order room service? If so, they're missing out on one of the basic experiences of life. As I have mentioned elsewhere, if you […] [Read More]
Show More


text:
Hello~! I'm Feshnie.
You may call me Feshnie or Jove, I don't mind^^
This is my designated artblog. My main one is ~*FeSHniE*~. I hope you'll enjoy your stay on my blog!
I draw a bunch of stuff in many forms so please check my tags list for it. I also do commissions if you're interested.
I still have a lot to learn to improve my art and if you find something that you can help me improve on, please don't hesitate to tell me. Thank you very much
It was my dad's birthday a few days ago. If he was alive, he would turn 51 this year.
I miss him dearly.


text:
Michael Clarke Duncan has officially signed on to lend his voice to the upcoming superhero flick Green Lantern.
He will be voicing a Green Lantern Corps "drill sergeant" named Kilowog.
Duncan will be joining the likes of Ryan Reynolds, Blake Lively and Geoffrey Rush - who also joined the cast in post-production, just two weeks ago. Rush will be playing Tomar-Re, "a bird/fish-like alien".
The actor was nominated for an Oscar in 1999 for his portrayal of death row inmate John Coffey in Frank Darabont's The Green Mile.
He will also be appearing next in Kung Fu Panda 2, reprising his role of Commander Vachir.
Green Lantern will be released on 17 June.
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Are you looking forward to the release of Green Lantern? Give us a shout in the comment box below!


text:
The Lancers had a big second half in the game to move to 5-1 overall, 1-0 PacWest. FPU drops to 0-7, 0-1.
"I could just say we're really trying to be a second half team, but I think that's just kind of how it's worked out to be honest," said CBU Head Coach Jarrod Olson. "I was just glad the way we responded in the second half. We did a little better job defensively I felt and that led to some offense for us and got us going."
CBU jumped ahead early, getting out to a fast 18-3 lead in the first 10 minutes of the game.
FPU would claw its way back, however, pulling within three on free throws by Charde Stevens with two minutes remaining in the half. The Lancers held a 34-28 lead at the break.
The Sunbird offense was the Keairra White show in the first half as she scored 21 of the team's 28 points. Jasmine Beverly already had her double-double in hand at the break with 13 points and 11 boards.
Out of the half CBU found another gear and left FPU in its wake, jumping ahead 53-35 with a 17-5 run early.
Brittney Lewis got the run going with six points out of the break and then Lesley Vodicska capped it with a three.
The Lancers would lead by double digits the rest of the way, capping a wire-to-wire victory.
Beverly ended up leading CBU with a monster 23 point, 18 rebound performance and Lewis, who came on strong with 15 points in the second half, added 21. The Lancers had five players in double figures.
"Jasmine just has a nose for the ball," said Olson. "She's around every loose ball it seems like and is always very active. Overall I was very happy with the job we did on the boards tonight."
CBU owned a 50-33 rebounding advantage in the game, grabbing 23 on the offensive end.
White was the focal point of the FPU offense all night, scoring 32 points on 7 of 20 shooting. She got 16 of her points from the free throw line, going 16 of 18. Charde Stevens was the only other Sunbird in double figures with 14 points.
CBU goes back on the road after playing its home opener, facing Cal State Dominguez Hills on Wednesday.


text:
Episode 5 begins next week!
We are putting the finishing touches on the Opening which will include a special guest and will be broken into three videos. It's a sort of scavenger hunt approach to video programming. Damian and crew learn the meaning of the term "data jacking" with an incoherent lesson from a grinning face in the Halo.
That plus dancing and new guests, all coming before the big launch of Halo 3 on September 25th! Get ready!


text:
Practice Controlled Creativity
- Monday, February 27, 2012
Controlled Growth
It was one, among several, of the company's strategies for achieving success. And I have to admit, it was the only one I didn't understand. After all, if the purpose of a business is to prosper and expand influence, why would you want to control that growth? Why not just let it be free to flourish?
Well, those company days are behind me, and many homeschooling days lay ahead. While I've shifted professions for the time being, the business strategy remains a part of my philosophy for success— and it finally makes sense. Because nothing threatens successful growth—in any area—like the inability to handle it.
You see, creativity is something God's given to all of our kids—and to all of yours. It's part of being made in the image of a creative God. And it's our goal to help our kids discover their gifts and use them to build God's kingdom. But in order to do this we've got to be guardians of their growth and allow them just as much freedom as their maturity can responsibly handle. Otherwise, we jeopardize everything.
God set the best example of this with his own children. Just before the people of Israel were to enter the promised land—the land of freedom—God said this: "I will send the hornet ahead of you to drive the Hivites, Canaanites and Hittites out of your way. But I will not drive them out in a single year, because the land would become desolate and the wild animals too numerous for you. Little by little I will drive them out before you, until you have increased enough to take possession of the land" (Exodus 23:28-30).
God had set His children free; that was undeniable. And He had prepared a place where they could enjoy that freedom and serve him. That too, was undeniable. But He had the wisdom to know that they would need time to grow into the full measure of all He was giving to them. Over time, they would be strong and capable enough to tend the whole land He set aside for them. Until then, others would do it. And in this way, God guarded his children and his gift from ruin.
It's no different for us. We must encourage our children in their creative growth, but not by setting them free in as many directions as they want to go all at once. Instead, we must allow them pursue what they are able to handle with self-control. And as we do, we'll watch them grow to maturity and continue to pursue their passions for the glory of God.
To encourage you in practicing controlled creativity, try implementing these helpful tips.
1. Narrow it down
Instead of choosing as many things as possible, help your child to narrow down their creative pursuits to one or two at a time. Talk through what your child loves best and appears to have natural skill or strengths in; help them to discern the way they should go, not just the way they feel like going. Narrowing down options and settling on a decision they can handle are life-skills your child will thank you for later.
Recently on Resources
Editors' Picks
Have something to say about this article? Leave your comment via Facebook below!
Listen to Your Favorite Pastors
Add Crosswalk.com content to your siteBrowse available content


text:
- Age / Gender:
- 21, Male
- Location:
- Belgium
- Joined:
- 8/29/06
- All Stats >
User Statshot
- Community Stats
Level 9 Artist
Normal Whistle
Ranked as Civilian
Contact Info / Websites
Latest News
hhahaha, hoyl shit. this site is still up. hello all.
Latest Audio Submissions
|Phariah [PiZZA]
|Video Game Loop
Latest Art
Favorite Movies
3rd Grade Transformers Rated 4.4139 Stars Transformers Revenge of the Fallen... By kids!!! Comedy - Parody These Pancakes Are Tiny Rated 4.3915 Stars Two brothers, a plate of pancakes and a whole lot of swear words. Comedy - Original Awesome Gaiden Rated 4.4274 Stars Ninja Gaiden is awesome and so is this movie. Comedy - Parody BadGuys Rated 4.2976 Stars War-time fun. Comedy - Original
Favorite Games
Mastermind: WC Rated 4.4363 Stars Manage your minions, defend your base, and conquer this puny planet ONCE AND FOR ALL! Strategy - Real-time (RTS) Johnny Rocketfingers 2 Rated 4.2978 Stars The Sequel to Johnny Rocketfingers Adventure - Point 'n Click Insurgo Rated 4.1867 Stars Build as high as you can, as fast as you can! Puzzles - Other
Favorite Audio
|Miscellaneous Song
|Curse Rag
|Country Song


text:
Baby Sale
Discounted Baby Clothing & AccessoriesDiscounted items are products that are being discontinued. Once gone there are no more sizes available. All sales are final.
Red & Black Striped Anchor Pom Hat
Regular Price: $14.00
Special Price: $11.20
Circle Jerks Infant and Toddler Shirt
Regular Price: $24.00
Special Price: $19.20
Black/Pink Crossbone Heart Baby Shoes
Regular Price: $27.00
Special Price: $14.00


text:
The median home value in Cedar Glen, CA is $247,500.
This is
higher than
the county median home value of $224,900.
The national median home value is $170,100.
The average price of homes sold in Cedar Glen, CA is $247,500.
Approximately 21.39% of Cedar Glen homes are owned,
compared to 9.83% rented, while
68.78% are vacant.
Cedar Glen real estate listings include condos, townhomes, and single family homes for sale.
Commercial properties are also available.
If you see a property you're interested in, contact a Cedar Glen real estate agent to arrange a tour today!
Learn more about Cedar Glen Real Estate.
Own your own secluded mountain compound! This compound has 3 homes on 2 parcels of more than one acre of land included in 19 lots. And, there is room to build another home, too! Live in the larger home and use the others for guests or renters. Easy, private access to all homes plus a 2-car garage and a one-car garage. Main home is 3 bedrooms, 1 bath home with extra room that can be used as a separate apartment. The second home is a 2 bedroom, 3/4 bath; and the third is a 1 bedroom, 1 bath home. Great potential for larger groups or income producing properties.
Enjoy showing this lovely log cabin style home, surrounded by incredible mountain views. Interior is light, bright and airy. New appliances , paint and carpet make this home move in ready. Bring your splash of color to add the final touches to this your next home. Vaulted ceilings, breakfast-dining area, combination formal dining living room provide great space for family gatherings and entertaining. Sliding doors off the master which allow access to the rear patio. Wonderful front deck, great place to relax at days end and watch the spectacular sunsets! This is a must see , yes you go down a bumpy road to access the home, however you will soon realize it was worth it!!
Lots of space this beautiful mountain home backs up to the national forest and cedar ridge estates, plenty of land to call your own secluded feeling yet close to all that Lake Arrowhead has to provide. Open floor plan on top/main level with to spaces bedrooms. Two fireplaces one on each floor, for cozy comfort. Bottom floor could be used as part-time vacation rental or full time rental for extra income. Lot provides plenty of space for a garage if future owner desires.
PRIVACY PRIVACY, this house is located in Cedar Glen on a dirt road and has a very secluded feel with a spectacular mountain and forest view. Knotty pine walls give it a cabin feel. Cabin is furnished with beautiful mountain furniture. Seller is taking a few personal items.
STANDARD SALE!!! Beautifully REMODELED 3 Bed. 2 Bath. 1,740 sqft Home!!! GOURMET Kitchen with, NEW Stainless Steel Appliances, NEW Premium Interior & Exterior Paint, NEW Carpet throughout, NEW Interior Designer Doors and Hardware, NEW Ceiling Fans!! High Ceilings for an open Airy Feeling!! Kitchen open to the Living Room! Large Bathroom Vanity with Extra Storage Cabinets! TWO Fireplaces! Multiple Double French Doors open to the Deck overlooking the Beautiful Trees and Forest! EXTRA Studio with Kitchenette and Bathroom that can be used as GUEST QUARTERS with Private Entrance!!! Double Car Garage!! 3 Storage Sheds! And so much more! Visit the Virtual Tour for more Photos!
$10,000 PRICE REDUCTION 5 BR!!! 5 Bedrooms, 1.5 Baths! ON 2 LOTS! 1933 Includes charming furnishings, ready to go! Just move in! Gorgeous original fireplace in living room warms you up to the charms and wonder of Old Lake Arrowhead. Beautiful tongue-in-groove knotty pine paneling throughout the home. Bedrooms on the main level and the lower level for privacy. Upper level sun-room with a great partial lake view and lovely tree-top views. Super large and level patio yard next to house by the kitchen entry...on lots 10 & 11...great for BBQ, party, or picnicking! 2 Bedrooms on Main and 3 bedrooms on 2nd floor. Separate entry to storage area in basement. Must see for big get-togethers!
This Custom Home was completed in 1980. It has a newer modern feel with an architectural flair Inside and out. The setting has a Quiet and Private feeling. There is Great access and parking just next to the house. Just a few steps to the front door. Take a look - You will like the vaulted ceilings and nicely tiled bathrooms.
Cute, Cute, Cute Set up currently as a 2 Bedroom, can be converted easily to a 3 bedroom house. Home has recently had over $60,000 invested in upgrades. Great opportunity for someone to purchase a very clean house at a great price.
STANDARD SALE!!! Beautifully REMODELED 3 Bed. 1-1/2 Bath. 950 sqft Home!!! Effective year 1970!! GOURMET Kitchen with NEW Granite Countertops, NEW Glass and Stone Mosaic Backsplash, NEW Stainless Steel Appliances, NEW Premium Interior & Exterior Paint, NEW Distressed-Look Floors, NEW Carpet in the Bedrooms!! less than 1/4 mile distance from Emerald Bay/Lake Arrowhead!! 3 decks including an Upper Level Deck to enjoy the Forest Views! Fireplace for those cozy nights! Several Parking Spots including a parking Deck!! Double French Doors open to the Deck!! Please visit Virtual Tour for more Photos!
Its been in the family for over 50 years, cute cabin with lots of potential. Cabin Style. Main floor bedroom and bath. Sets up great for a weekend getaway, or could be full time residence. Cozy with lots of wood inside. 3 separate bedroom areas up stairs attic style. Oversized lot for Cedar Glen, Lots of parking. Located in the best are of Cedar Glen. Close to town.
Real Living Premier Realty
23180 Hemlock
Moreno Valley, CA 92557
Email Us | Visit our Real Estate Website


text:
Selling Design – an online reading list
TOMORROW, WHICH IS also my birthday, I begin teaching "Selling Design" to second-year students in the MFA Interaction Design program at School of Visual Arts, New York. Liz Danzico and Steve Heller created and direct the MFA program, and this is my second year teaching this class, whose curriculum I pull out of my little blue beanie.
In this class we explore collaboration and persuasion for interaction designers. Whether you work in a startup, studio, or traditional company; whether you design print, products, purely digital experiences, or any combination thereof; whether you're the sole proprietor, part of a tightly focused team, or a link in a long chain of connected professionals, it is only by collaborating skillfully with others—and persuading them tactfully and convincingly when points of view differ and yours is right—that you can hope to create designs that make a dent in the universe.
During this spring semester, we'll explore collaboration and persuasion from many points of view, and hear from (and interact with) many accomplished designers who will serve as special guest speakers. For our opening get-acquainted session, we'll focus on texts that explore the some of the most basic, traditional (and rarely taught) aspects of design professionalism from the worlds of web, interaction, and print design:
Demystifying Design
by Jeff Gothelf – A List Apart
- Draw together
- Show raw work (frequently)
- Teach the discipline
- Be transparent
- Take credit for your wins
Design Criticism and the Creative Process
by Cassie McDaniel – A List Apart
- Critique as collaborative tool
- Presenting designs
- What is good feedback?
- Negotiate criticism
- The designer as collaborator
Personality in Design
by Aarron Walter – A List Apart
- Personality is the platform for emotion
- A history of personality in design
- Personas
- Creating a design persona for your website [or other project]
- Tapbots: Robot love
- Caronmade: octopi, unicorns, and mustachios
- Housing Works: a name with a face
- The power of personality
Design Professionalism
by Andy Rutledge
You should read this entire brief book, but for now, sample these bits:
Do You Suck at Selling Your Ideas?
by Sam Harrison – HOW Magazine
Dyson is used as an example of a product that currently dominates the market, even though nobody initially believed in the inventor's idea. Lessons:
- Tell a personal story
- Create emotional experiences for decision makers
- See what's behind rejections
How to sell your design effectively to the client
by Arfa Mirza, Smashing Magazine
- Understand the nature of your client
- Have a rationale for every part of your design
- Show the best design options only
- Defend your design, but don't become defensive
- Solicit good feedback and benefit from it
Money: How to sell the value of design – an email conversation
by Jacob Cass – Just Creative
Narrative of standing up to new-client pressure to do something against the designer's self-interest, or which devalues design. Story told here is about money but it could be about any designer/client conflict in which the designer needs to gently educate the client. (Some designer/client conflicts require the client to educate the designer, but that's another matter.)
How to choose a logo designer
by Jacob Cass – Just Creative
Basic article outlines ten background materials any designer (not just logo designers) should prepare to encourage confidence on the client's part:
- Experience
- Positive testimonials
- A thorough design process
- Awards won/published work
- A strong portfolio
- Price
- Design affiliations
- Great customer service
- Business Professionalism
- Appropriate questions
Filed under: "Digital Curation", Advocacy, Best practices, business, Career, Design, SVA, Teaching, The Essentials, The Profession
Comments off.
Paul Ford on The Big Web Show
Paul Ford is our guest on The Big Web Show, taped live before an internet audience at 1:00 PM ET tomorrow, 14 October 2010, on the 5by5 network at live.5by5.tv.
Paul is a freelance writer and computer programmer. He was an editor at Harper's Magazine from 2005–2010, and brought Harper's 159-year, 250,000-page archive to the web in 2007; the system now supports tens of thousands of registered subscribers. More recently he helped the media strategy firm Activate with the launch of Gourmet Live, a re-imagining of Gourmet Magazine for iPad, and co-founded Popsicle Weasel, a small company totally focused on microsites.
He has written for NPR, TheMorningNews.org, XML.com, and the National Information Standards Organization's Information Standards Quarterly, and is the author of the novel Gary Benchley, Rock Star (Penguin/Plume). Paul programs in PHP, Java, and XSLT2.0, but lately is all about Python and Django. His writing has been anthologized in Best Software Writing I (2005) and Best Music Writing 2009. He enjoys both software and music.
He will teach Content Strategy at the School of Visual Arts in New York City starting in 2011. His personal website, started in 1997, is Ftrain.com. He lives in Brooklyn, New York with his wife Mo and the obligatory cats.
The Big Web Show ("Everything Web That Matters") is recorded live in front of an internet audience every Thursday at 1:00 PM ET on live.5by5.tv. Join us!
Edited episodes can be watched afterwards, often within hours of recording, via iTunes (audio feed | video feed) and the web. Subscribe and enjoy!
Filed under: Apple, Applications, apps, Best practices, Big Web Show, books, Code, Culture, Dan Benjamin, Interviews, ipad, Journalism at its Finest, Microauthoring, Microblogging, Publications, Publishing, Standards, SVA, The Big Web Show
Comments off.
MFA Interaction Design, Day 1
On the last night of August, 2009, the MFA in Interaction Design at School of Visual Arts opened its doors to eighteen gifted students. The intense program will be like Project Runway, except that it lasts two years, and nobody will be "out."
Created and chaired by Liz Danzico and Steven Heller, SVA's MFA in Interaction Design is one of the only graduate-level degrees dedicated to interaction design in the U.S. Over two years of night classes, the program teaches students from diverse backgrounds (including design, computer programming, architecture, and even majors in English literature) to envision and create experiences across all manner of media, including the real world.
Students in this program will not merely become better web or interaction designers. They will develop user experience conventions in media where no such conventions exist.
In a beautiful post at Bobulate, Liz places the opening of the new program in the context of SVA's history.
As a faculty member, I attended the opening orientation and have the crummy iPhone pictures to prove it.
It was a thrill to meet these talented students, who will spend the next two years haunting the program's beautiful new design space at night (most of them after working at their day jobs, an SVA tradition).
To attend the program's many free events, or simply to enjoy it vicariously, follow twitter.com/svaixd. And keep watching the skies.
ShortURL: zeldman.com/?P=2439
Filed under: Design, Education, IXD, SVA, The Profession
Comments off.


text:
(Source: grumpystitches)
Fiesta Ware Dishes wall hanging by sewandtellquilts on Flickr.
(via quilt-stuff)
Old School Library quilting by katie @ swim, bike, quilt! on Flickr.
Button Quilt close up by Karen G. Fisher
A bit wibbly wobbly. A bit timey wimey. (Taken with Instagram)
(Source: lovely-kittens, via faultlessly-deactivated20130218)
these are addictive! (by Emily Levey)
summer sampler quilt by crafting with loove on Flickr.
(via jbe200quilts)
By FlossieBlossoms
(via jbe200quilts)


text:
Best Flappy Bird alternative games
If you prefer your flapping animals to have gills rather than feathers, FlappyFish is worth a look. The graphics are even less impressive than the ones in Flappy Bird (basic but with a certain charm), but the gameplay follows the same principles: place some carefully judged taps on the screen to guide your character safely through the waters and the on-rushing obstacles, which are a little bit too close to each other for our liking.
The difference is you tap to lower the fish from the surface of the water, and you won't get penalised for hitting the top of the screen. Another game where you can expect to see a lot of ads. Available for free for Android and Windows Phone.
Other Galleries
» More News Photos
latest news
» More Latest News


text:
Travel Directions
From Space Science Theory Group
Air Travel Options
Nearest full-service airport: Manchester, NH
Closer and more convenient than Boston. Driving time: 45 minutes.
Please note: Public transportation between MHT and Durham is limited. Please check your options prior to purchasing your ticket.
Logan International Airport, Boston, Mass.
Expect heavy traffic and road construction. Driving time: One hour +.
Shuttles Serving Area Airports
If flying into Logan or Manchester Boston Regional, Flight Line Inc. provide transportation to UNH.
C&J Trailways bus line runs from Logan to their Portsmouth bus terminal, round trip $43-45. If you take this, you will need to take a taxi to Durham. The terminal closes at 10PM.
Taxi Services Doug's - 24 hour around the clock service, (603) 436-2220, @ $26 to Durham. Blue Star - runs until 1:00AM Sunday-Wed, 2AM Thurs-Saturday, (603) 436-2774
Driving Options
Driving from Manchester Airport to Portsmouth
Driving From Logan International Airport to Portsmouth, NH
Driving from Portsmouth, NH to UNH
Parking on Campus
- If you are a guest at the New England Center, parking is free.
- Visitors to campus may park in the visitor lot across from A lot.
- C lot on Mill Rd. across from the shopping center has a 3 hour limit for $3.
- Parking police are vigilant and tickets are expensive ($50 to $100 is typical).
Finding Morse Hall
Turn onto College Road at the lights from Main Street.
There is a the flashing light at the bottom of the hill, Rudman Hall is on the left. Morse Hall is also on the left, but a little further up the hill.
If your visit is planned in advance, and you have a mobility issue, there are six parking spaces behind Morse. Permits for these parking spaces can be obtained from the EOS office by our office administrator.
There is an additional public parking lot next to Morse Hall with 8 parking meters. These are limited to a maximum of 3 hours.
A Campus Map is available that is suitable for printing.
Additional Resources
Official New Hampshire tourism website.
Durham: It's Where U Live A community oriented website.


text:
Seafood Salad Recipes
Get the best seafood salad recipes from trusted magazines, cookbooks, and more. You'll find recipe ideas complete with cooking tips, member reviews, and ratings.
Cooking Light Big Book of Salads
Savor seriously tasty salads with all the flavors you love and the convenience you need from one of your most trusted brands.
Great Grilled Seafood SaladsMake the most of summer by pairing grilled seafood with fresh, in-season produce. It's a hot-cool combination you won't want to miss.
How to Make Bacon, Arugula, and Shrimp SaladSpice up salad night with peppery arugula and a bright homemade vinaigrette in about 30 minutes.
How to Make Mediterranean Potato Salad with Shrimp and FetaPotatoes get a delicious makeover in this 40-minute dinner salad.
Our Best Seafood Salad Recipes
Seafood Salad with Creamy Tarragon DressingSunset, JUNE 2012
Mixed Seafood SaladCooking Light, MAY 2011
Thai Seafood SaladCooking Light, JULY 2010
Mixed Seafood Salad (Insalata ai Frutti di Mare)Sunset, DECEMBER 2007
Mixed Seafood SaladCooking Light, DECEMBER 2006
Seafood Avocado Salad with GingerCooking Light, MAY 2006
Sewee Preserve's Seafood SaladSouthern Living, JULY 2005
Wasabi Seafood SaladCooking Light, JUNE 2005
Caribbean Seafood SaladSunset, AUGUST 2002
Seafood SaladCooking Light, DECEMBER 1998
You want chicken? We've got it!
Get endless recipe ideas for this dinnertime staple, emailed weekly.
We Respect Your Privacy. Privacy Policy
Daily Specials
Most Popular Recipes
- 1. Chicken and Herb White Pizza
- 2. Easy Peach Cobbler
- 3. Chocolate Molten Lava Cakes
- 4. Best Carrot Cake
- 5. Chicken with Carrots and Potatoes