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The Opposite of Spoiled: The Right Way to Teach Kids About Money
Published on - August 22nd, 2013 (Modified on - August 23rd, 2013) (by J.D. Roth)
Note: This article is from J.D. Roth, who founded Get Rich Slowly in 2006. After a year off, J.D. is once again writing here at GRS. His non-financial writing can still be found at More Than Money.
What's the best way to teach kids about money?
That question has haunted folks for decades — maybe centuries. There are dozens of financial literacy programs in the United States right now, but none of them seems to be effective. Why is that?
I've written before about why I think financial literacy education fails. Here's the short version: Most financial literacy fails because it focuses too much on mechanics — how bonds work, the magic of compound interest — and not enough on behavior. While mechanics are key (they're the foundation, after all), they're not the most important aspect of financial success.
Here's an analogy: My brothers know how to read and write. They're smart guys, and they're both literate. But just because they know how to read and write doesn't mean they practice those skills. One of my brothers used to proudly declare, "I haven't read a book since high school." (Oh, how that hurt my book-loving heart!) Knowing how to read doesn't make you a reader. And knowing how to save doesn't make you a saver.
Financial literacy is not the answer. We've got to do something more if we want to teach our kids about money.
Last year, I spoke to a group of fifth-graders about money
John Hancock
Recently, I've had two great conversations about this topic. The first was with John Hancock, the president of the Portland chapter of Junior Achievement, a non-profit group focused on helping kids learn about money and entrepreneurship. He and I met for coffee last week, and we chatted about his own efforts to improve financial literacy.
Like me, Hancock thinks it's important to focus less on the "how to" and more on the "why" when it comes to money. He wants to change behavior. His goal isn't to just educate young people about money, but (as he puts it), "to change habits of the hands and habits of the heart".
Hancock thinks it's important to put people into active simulations, such as role-playing. To that end, his group puts on an annual event for kids called Biztown, which lets them experience a simulated city environment. The children take on the roles of various business and professional leaders in an interconnected community, and they learn how to manage their own personal finances. I know several kids who've done this program, and they love it. So do their parents. The experience seems to have a positive effect on their attitudes toward money.
The local chapter of Junior Achievement also produces The Money Jar, a weekly podcast about kids and money. (Last autumn, I appeared on an episode of this program to talk about how to build savings.)
I applaud Hancock's efforts, and hope to work with him in the future to improve financial education in our area.
Ron Lieber
Earlier this week, I had a long phone call with Ron Lieber, who writes the "Your Money" column for the New York Times. He's currently on sabbatical to write a book called The Opposite of Spoiled, in which he hopes to teach parents how to raise children with financial maturity.
Lieber has some great insights about financial education. "Financial literacy works best when it's delivered in the moment on an as-needed basis," he told me.
As an example, he talked about how sixteen- and seventeen-year-old kids make six-figure decisions about education with very little guidance. "The fact that these kids are making major financial decisions in complete ignorance is a crisis," Lieber said. "We need a financial Americorps to go into high schools and help kids address important questions. Why go to college? Why do different schools cost different amounts? How does financial aid work? What about delaying school for a year or two?"
Lieber agrees that financial literacy efforts have largely been ineffective. He says they should focus on "feelings, behavior, and emotion — all of the things we've realized over the past decade that are at the crux of getting money right." We talked about his book, and about raising children to be financially mature.
"How do children become spoiled?" I asked.
"They're not born that way," he said. "We do it to them. Nobody wants to raise a spoiled child, yet it happens all the time."
One issue is what Lieber calls the "first-generation affluent". When you were raised poor (or lower middle-class), there's a real temptation to give your kids the things you never had. You remember what it was like to feel deprived, and you don't want your children to experience that — even if a little deprivation might be good for them, might build character. (After all, it helped make you who you are, right?) "Kids should, at the very least, have to earn things," Lieber says.
In writing about spoiled children, Lieber tried to think of what it meant to be the opposite of spoiled. Because the word "spoiled" was originally used to describe food, the opposite is "fresh", which isn't a good choice in this case. "When we talk about spoiled children," Lieber told me, "the opposite qualities are modesty, patience, thrift, generosity, perspective, perseverance, courage, grit, bravery, prudence, and so on."
"That sounds like the boy scout law," I said.
Lieber laughed. "Scouting imparts a core set of important values, it's true."
"The thing is," he continued, "you can use money as a central tool to teach kids about every single one of these. Instead of shying away from the topic, what if we put money at the center of family conversations? What if we assumed not that money subverts values but contributes to them? Because it does. This is the path to financial literacy and financial education."
The Bottom Line
As always happens with these discussion about financial literacy, I don't have any answers — only complaints. Over the past few months, I've chatted with Flexo from Consumerism Commentary. He want to start a financial literacy non-profit, and I want to help him make that a reality. But neither one of us really knows what that organization will look like and how it will accomplish its objectives.
I'm not sure we need to have the answers right now, though. Maybe it's enough to simply be asking the questions. I think that's the first step in finding a way to children become masters of their financial futures.
Do you have experience with financial literacy programs? What methods have you found to be effective? What does not work? If you were to teach kids about money, where would you start?
There's a bunch of literature on this. No magic bullet yet. The best evidence so far is that financial literacy programs work when they're voluntary and they don't work when they're mandatory. Which doesn't help reach the kids who probably need them most. But people are still working on this question.
"Not read a book since high school?"
That breaks my heart too . . .
My brother reads maybe 5 books a year and usually a book that is based on a TV show that he is watching – currently GAME OF THRONES.
Excellent article as always, JD. Glad you are back writing here!
I think you're right about needing money to be at the center of the conversation. I wish my parents had talked to me more about debt (aka student loans). Other than that my parents did a great job at presenting me the concept of compound interest.
Another thing, when I wanted big ticket items such as a car, my parents didn't buy it for me. This forced me to go out and make money on my own. As a teenager I was able to foot my own bills and afford my own things and develop the concept of savings. It worked out great and instilled some pretty good work ethic. It's definitely one thing I plan on doing the same with for my children.
I agree that by wanting to give your kids everything you may spoil them. My parents had the complete opposite approach, which as a kid I found pretty hard. But since I wanted more I had to work for it. From my early teens I was baby sitting, tutoring, left home at 17 to move to a college dorm and paid my 5 years of college without incurring any debt so I can only be thankful now. I'd like to help my kids more if I have some, but providing for them may ruin their financial future. I hope they are grateful and aware of their luck if I do, not taking it for granted.
My parents did a good job of modeling personal finance, they were frugal, maintained a budget, saved for my college costs, saved enough for retirement (I hope they are not done with their retirement years yet), etc. But, while they modeled good behavior I can't say they really taught me specific skills. They did start a savings pass book account for me, and I can recall heading to the bank now and again.
I like some of the tools that my brother and best friend have used with their kids, teaching kids how to save, but also to give, how money is taxed, how to save for long term vs. short term, etc.
And I miss Ron at the NYT, the suspended the Bucks blog (don't know if that had to do with his sabbatical) but I miss that blog too.
I am trying so hard to raise a child who is the opposite of spoiled! We live in a wonderful community, but it is the type of neighborhood where kids get a lot of stuff and opportunities and there are a lot of kids with attitudes of entitlement. Gimme, gimme, gimme.
My strategy with my daughter, now six, has been to address money often but in subtle ways. I started an allowance when she was five, transferring $5 month into her bank account. But I have only mentioned it casually, as she does not really get the connection between money and buying stuff quite yet. When she asks for something I say she can wait until her birthday or she can buy it with her own money. She usually forgets about it.
We have a sponsor child in a third-world country, and I always talk about "Pontso" and how little her family has and how little most children around the world have compared to U.S. kids, yet they still are happy and get to have fun playing with friends etc.
I want her to respect money and know how to manage it, but I don't want to fill her with anxiety about it or push my money issues onto her.
The nuts and bolts should be taught in conjunction with general values about money. My eldest kid is only three so there's no point in teaching him about IRAs or savings.
But I do try to inoculate him from media and television in the hopes that he isn't so easily persuaded to buy the latest gadget.
I also promote delayed gratification so that in time, the concept of compound interest doesn't seem so foreign.
And I would like to encourage simple entertainment like walks to the park and lively dinners around the table, leaving vacations and expensive toys for once in a while occasions instead of the norm. In this way, my kids will hopefully learn how to derive pleasure from simple moments and experiences, even if they do grow up to be wealthy enough to afford more than that.
The concept of a "money store" already exists, in a way. Check out NAPFA, an association of fee-only financial planners, who dispense objective financial advice for a set fee (as opposed to a sales commission).
I want to echo how great Junior Achievement is, my wife and I taught a few sessions and it was a blast.
They're always looking for help, I recommend everyone sign up.
Good post as always JD. Going through money "training" with our seven year old daughter right now. Stay tuned!
I grew up in a two parent household (which is a big deal where I came from) and though my mother's frugal, saving, perfect credit lifestyle should have rubbed off on me, my father's free spending (mostly on drugs and alcohol and the consequences) is the one I picked up. Not the addiction issues but the careless and the attitude of indifference is what rubbed off on me.
Neither of my parents actually deliberately taught me anything about finance – I was expected to pick it up on my own. Fortunately I did eventually, but not without a lot of costly mistakes along the way.
I was never one to consume but it was my lack of management that got me into trouble.
I agree with previous posters that this can be taught most effectively by parents. However, for more formal school settings, I have heard great things about Dave Ramsey's curriculum called Foundations.
I thought this blogger had a great article about teaching her daughter to ration "juice" http://www.lilblueboo.com/tag/make-your-own-play-money
When I was growing up(I have 7 other siblings) and we turned 16 we got a bigger allowance I want to say $100 a month. This had to cover our clothes, gas(to and from school & Church), and then a little bit as fun money. My parents had food in the house to make lunches so we had no excuse there, and it was a great way to teach. We could spend it all on clothing but then could ride the bus to school which added 2 hours to each day since we didn't have gas money anymore. Or if we didn't use it on winter boots then tough luck, It was a safer way to realize how to budget your money. My parents did pay for a car for most of us to use to get to school and insurance for the said car, but that was their choice since they wanted us to attend a private school that was pretty far away,etc. There was also a cell phone in the car for emergencies only,etc. If we wanted more money to spend than the $15ish left over after gas and clothing, then we could get a job, babysit, or find other things that my parents wanted done enough to pay us for. I plan on using this method when I have kids. Just don't give in when the money is gone, if the parents then loan money it defeats the whole purpose.
As a dad to a 6 month old, I struggle with how I'm going to teach my son finances. Here's why:
As mentioned above, I came from a lower middle class family so I have always wanted to give my kid(s) everything i never have. However, I am stronger for having to learn the responsibilities i did being lower middle class. My wife got everything she needed (not wanted) and grew up comfortably. She wants to give our children even more than she had. So, it's an internal family struggle as to what to and not to provide without earning. There definitely will be some aspect of earning presented as well.
For us, we are going to try and provide opportunities rather than stuff. The wife and I have come to that conclusion. As experiences and education are priceless, we want to provide those. When it comes to consumer aspects, we will do our best to teach the lessons of owning "stuff".
Great article here.
The Warrior
JD – I would love to follow-up with you about this (my email is obviously in my post). Being someone who had great parents at teaching a child (me, and my two siblings) about money has helped me on my way. Being a third generational "middle class" parent (mine is a freshman in college), I have gone through a lot of the same steps. There are a few keys which are simple to cover. 1) Start early by saying NO. 2) Teach them what money is (ie. it pays for stuff, no money = no xyz, do this every so often even if you can afford it, with like McDonald's). 3) Give them their own money – allowance 4) Show them what money you have, and how it is spent (budgeting). 5) Get them involved with "their" money (college savings, taxes, etc.) 6) Make them responsible for their own purchases (ie. when not on a family event, you want to go to ice skating w/ friends, you pay) 7) Make them responsible for more things over time (car insurance, car repairs) and make them borrow money if necessary.
Those are the basics, but cover all forms of things. Individual topics like debit/credit cards, checking accounts, savings, are had along the way, when the child appears ready to understand.
I'm at this stage now. I have a 6 year old and 7 year old and they start asking for little snacks and treats that they sell at school. I gave them both $5.00 and their own wallets to put their money. Both lost them on different occasions. I told them if they lose the money again that's it no more! LOL they have kept track of it so far. I have a piggy bank that i keep extra coins and i tell them to be on the lookout or if extended family members give them money to put in our jar to save up for something bigger.
Since i'm a single mom i tell them often we can't afford that. My ex wanted me not to use those particular words but it's the truth and i want them to apperciate the things that they do have. You won't be able to get everything you want but you will be able to get some of those things so take care of it and apperciate it.
Also for this in person money store i would totally love to work there!! LOL i can imagine it now.
As a dad of three under the age of 14, I have started the talk about finances with my children. I make sure I include them on discussion about our family budget, but try and talk to them about money items they are interested in. For example they also like to get ice cream from the ice cream truck during the summer. Each night it would cost $6 for all 3 kids to get ice cream. I explained for the same $6 we could go to the store and get 2 half gallons of ice cream and they could have it every night. They agreed this was a better deal and off to the store we went.
When kids just willy nilly go to college without the consequences of the debt they face, it bothers me. I hope that we can accept kids who don't go to college more readily so they can enjoy their debt-free existence and perhaps find a career they truly enjoy without the expense of college.
Hi. This was a great article. I don't know how to drop you a line other than make a comment, but I do have a story about our daughter and money decisions she has made over the years. I would enjoy talking to Ron Lieber.
I remember reading this article on GRS years ago, it stuck with me. Dad bought his son a soda machine and had him run it as a business. Would love do to something similar with my child someday:
Great article J.D.! Teaching kids good financial habits is hard. We are solidly middle class and I struggle with wanting to build in hardships that don't (really) exist, just so they get it and are not spoiled. "Nope, we can't afford it" is said often around here. Does that make sense? Does anyone else do that?
My kids deliver a once a week paper. They get $5 a week for it, so we give them no allowance. (Ages 9, 7 & 5) My mother in-law advised me to never pay the kids for chores. As soon as you start asking them to do something *extra* they say "how much will you pay me." You are part of this family & everybody helps out at home. I don't get paid for chores either. They get paid $20 a month. $5 goes in savings, the rest they can spend.
They are slowly learning how to save up. My 9 year old has a debit card that he can only use at the ATM. Now he pays attention to the balance! The account is interest bearing, so he sees compound interest in real life. We are working at it. Slowly. I'd LOVE any other advice.
I grew up thinking my parents were poor because they often said, "We can't afford it." It turns out we weren't poor, but I think I had a large amount of unnecessary shame and anxiety on account of that terminology. For this reason, I think you should reconsider your approach.
Perhaps you can phrase it differently? "That is not in our budget for [insert category]."
That's what my parents used to say — "that's not in the budget this month/season/year" or "we already spent our entertainment/clothing/food budget on this instead, so we will have to wait to for that." It was more of a lesson in setting priorities and planning for things you want.
We did have a few "other families can afford things we can't" conversations, but they were usually framed by "but we have everything we need". I don't think you get that sense of security or dialogue when you simply say "we can't afford it."
A financial Americorps should be sent into the schools. I love it.
College students, and kids that are even younger than that, could learn about paying off debt by viewing these slides that are very helpful. Pass this around to the community because it can really make a difference.
Paying off debt can be boring and most kids are just not into learning about it.
That is why this Superhero guide was created. This will teach kids to pay off debt like no other lesson could teach them.
Here is the Superhero pay off debt guide. nomorecreditcards.com/how-to-pay-off-credit-card-debt-fast/
(I recommend enlarging the slides by clicking on the little box at the bottom left of the slides, while flipping though the slides)
Whenever my dad would buy me something as a kid he would tell me how many hours he had to work in order to afford the item. I never really gave it a second thought as a kid but when I got to be 16 and had a job myself I realized just what he was talking about. I'm 27 now and before I buy anything I still think about how many hours I have to put in at work to afford it. Of course this works a lot easier if you work for an hourly wage instead of a yearly salary. Making me aware that somebody had to earn the money to buy me the item was something I didn't even realize he was teaching me back then but it has definitely stuck with me.
I think kids have to experience life completely on their own before they can really learn financial literacy. For some (most?), that's going to mean screw ups to varying degrees.
My guess is people who say their parents taught them well are just responsible people anyway. My oldest reminds me a lot of Kristen Wong who writes here. By nature, she's a very responsible person. We've taught her about money and any financial screw ups she makes will likely be small and she'll learn quickly from them.
My second child is a really good kid with a generous spirit, but not nearly as responsible at this point in his life and that's ok. I can tell him all about the dangers of credit cards and debt until I'm blue in the face but my guess is until he has a couple of years of running up debt while living the high life he won't really learn a thing. But if that happens, eventually his credit will get shut off. It is at that point he'll become financially responsible. He's a great person and very bright and he'll get it eventually. I'm not worried – I just think he's the type who needs to learn through experience.
Saving money and financial management are not moral imperatives, they are practical decisions. Kids are rarely spoiled by simply having material goods. They are spoiled by being the center of their parents lives.
You don't teach financial management by telling kids about the magic of compound interest. They learn from role modeling and their own experience. Since, most people don't include their kids in the details of family financial planning, the role modeling they actually see may very well be misleading. So you need to give them opportunities to have their own experiences.
Give your kids an allowance, but make sure there is some specific expenses that they will have to pay for. My parents made us put some of our own money in the collection plate at church every week. But we also had to buy our own candy bars, gum etc. They didn't use this as a lesson plan, they simply let us live our lives constrained by the amounts we had to spend.
They also opened a savings account for us that money we got as gifts etc could be deposited in. We weren't told we had to save and it never amounted to much. But it became a way for us to buy things like toys. We quickly learned the difference between money for daily expenses (aka candy) and money that was saved for bigger items (aka toys).
That really demonstrates the problem with making savings a moral imperative instead of a means to a practical end. You make the purpose of saving is to be "a saver" rather than a way to reward yourself with things you otherwise couldn't afford. Once kids learn the rewards of having money in the bank to buy things they really want, you don't have to teach them to save. They do it because they want to.
As we got older, it was second nature to want money in the bank. It was second nature to ask "do I really want to buy this?" The power of compound interest has nothing to do with it.
I worry all the time that our kids are spoiled. We are trying more and more to let them use their own money to buy things so that they can develop a better understanding or time/money/rewards.
My parents did this with me, and I think it really helped me to put things into perspective at a young age.
Every time I buy my 2 year old a present we stop by my job. I always tell her we have to stop by work first and get our money for a baby toy. I know this sounds ridiculous, but the idea is to relate work, to presents and toys. You have to work for what you want in life.
My baby crys every morning when I leave for work because she wants to play all day, but I am teaching her that work should be associated with being able to take care of your family, by presents, etc..
Exposing children at a young age to real financial lessons and teaching them is imperative. Sit your son who is in college down with you at the kitchen table and go over real examples of mistakes you made and educate him on best practice credit and debt. For example teach him or her that if they charge too much on their credit card in a month, that they cant afford to pay off at the end of the month, that they will start to carry debt and go over how much that interest can cost them over the year. Show them how much money they can save just by keeping their balance paid off every month, explain to them that with the extra money they can buy …….. (use examples based on stuff they like or can relate too).
These kids need exposure, to be taught lessons and to be financially trained starting at a young age. Their brains need to develop and grow over time. This stuff can not be taught over night.
This day and age most parents could not even teach their child these basics, and if this is the case with you, then it is time for you to take a financial education class.
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Sometimes financial literacy with kids can backfire – my middle sister and I used to steal from my youngest sister by trading her "more" money for "less". So we'd happily give her 10 pennies in exchange for her 1 quarter. I think this went on for a couple months before our parents caught us. She was pretty upset when my parents forced us to return the trade – they were stealing her monies!!
20 years later and she still holds this against me, sheesh! I was just doing what she wanted!
I have two children, a 10 year old and a 2 year old. My greatest fear is that they will be spoiled and grow up to have no money sense. The reason I fear this is because I feel my husband and I can offer them so much compared to what I had as a child. I grew up poor in a family who struggled with managing their money. I remember as a teenager I made myself a promise that my children would not grow up poor and would have better opportunities as they grew up.
Fast forward to today, my husband and I are solidly middle-class. We can afford to get them some things they want, but I struggle with the balance. In my view, since I grew up poor, I feel they are spoiled and have much more than what they need.
The way I've managed to balance things out is my oldest gets an allowance and if she wants something she has to pay for it from her money. We get them one awesome gift for their birthday and one for Christmas. Of course they get tons of stuff from family members. I try to teach my oldest about how much life costs and how we don't pick our friends for what they have but by who they are inside. I also try to teach her compassion of others and how money is just a tool. It's worked quite well because she is choosy of whom she calls a friend and refuses to hang out with girls who only talk about clothes and the latest Disney tv show.
I guess what I want to convey is that raising a non-spoiled child is hard work and you have to work on it EVERY day. You cannot be passive about it. Communication with your child is key.
As a side note: I've been a long time reader, years and years, and I've really missed JD's voice. I'm so happy to see you writing here again. Your posts are always thought provoking. Keep them coming!
I found that giving my children extra chores at a pre-ranged price helped. My children never "got" pocket money. My son sold white mice, popcorn he made himself on the stove top. He also what we called " bompies" (a little plastic bag filled with juice and then frozen). With his profit he bought an electric popcorn maker. My daughter made dresses and skirts and sold these. My daughter and I ran a stall of a Saturday where we sold our wares. Even I at high school, I cut and styled hair and later made dresses for friends and family. Children learn by doing and by copying what their parents do.
Totally agree with you as to why financial literacy fails and this is not restricted to just for kids but adults too
Most financial literacy fails because it focuses too much on mechanics — how bonds work, the magic of compound interest — and not enough on behavior. While mechanics are key (they're the foundation, after all), they're not the most important aspect of financial success.
We in India have started a website to promote financial literacy focussing on answering how to!
My 16 year old son got his first job scanning documents at my office this summer. We set up a checking account complete with a debit card for him and have his paychecks direct deposited. He has tracked his checking account balance with an app on his iPod. He has learned to write checks, calculate and pay his tithes, give to others who don't have the same means that he has been blessed with, budget, save and say no to spending frivolously. My favorite lesson I have seen him learn was when he was out with friends from church. When they stopped for lunch he bought a $1 soda and waited until he got home to eat so he could eat for free. When he has to track every dime he spends of the money he has earned himself it is much more difficult to part with compared to the money I just give to him. My husband and I are discussing transferring bill money into his account and having him pay the bills (under our supervision of course) so he can get a realistic idea of what it costs to live our lifestyle.
jD, you ought to go talk to the admin of the Youth$ave program at REACH CDC (www.reachcdc.org). It's an award-winning program that's been around for a couple decades, and it's right in your backyard.
It should be required for kids to take a six week financial education class before they can get approved for a college loan. This should be law. I am the CEO of one of the largest debt management companies in America. We are working on a financial education series in regards to this subject. It is time to change the world and I see you guys will be right along with us. Good job guys.
Awesome post! I agree that it is so important to teach kids about money so they don't get in over their heads. Thanks for the information about the upcoming book from Ron Lieber! I will keep an eye out for that. I also appreciate the resources you provided.
Karla Twomey
Looks like I'm a little late to the party here, but I have a few ideas on teaching teens about money that I've shared on my own website. You mentioned that Lieber is looking for people to interview for his book, and I couldn't find a link for contacting you about my interest. So I thought I'd try it this way.
I've been a big proponent of teaching financial stewardship for a very long time, and have only recently felt a burden for teaching teens. I've been at a loss as to how to go about it too — maybe if I had a good connection with the local schools, I could work something out. That has yet to be figured out.
Appreciate this article. I would like to be a part of the solution too.


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April 3, 2012 @ 18:39:46 PDT
To be fair, I lobbed the first analytical grenade in this trench clash.
Game reset: Ray Flowers of Sirius XM Fantasy Sports Radio and BaseballGuys.com tweeted that the Toronto Blue Jays' Henderson Alvarez had no chance of being a top-75 mixed starting pitcher in 2012.
I did not concur. He did not concur with my non-concurrence. Dude called me a jerk-face. What the what, bro?
And, lo and behold, we have ourselves an old-fashioned brodown. Not Hamilton-Burr. As Ray said, we go way back - no dirty bullets here. This has been more like when opposing generals used to partake in high tea before battles.
Even in waging war on Alvarez's behalf, I know he's hardly a perfect cause. It's easy to write off hurlers who don't post big K rates as mere waiver-wire fodder - rentals that we have to deal with when dire times arise.
Ray said, in essence, that he'd "need a belt of booze" to "chat up" the idea of tabbing Alvarez as a potential top-75er because of the right-hander's inexperience.
It's one thing to worry about the level of commitment to buy a Brett Lawrie or Matt Moore, but this hardly carries the same weight and significantly more profit potential.
Alvarez's lack of Triple-A experience bothers me, sure, but not a great deal when (a) my investment is for a buck or less in a mixed auction and (b) when he's a No. 7 or 8 mixed SP.
Maybe the Jays having Alvarez skip Triple-A will, oddly enough, work in their favor. Instead of wondering how to quantify and qualify the extent of his ability in the hitter-friendly Pacific Coast League at the homer haven of Cashman Field, they'll skip the filler and get the most from him in the big show. He did little last year to make them think of doing something different.
Luckily, there are more reasons to believe in Alvarez.
You know the phrase "one skill away?" Alvarez fits it to a T. Whether it's a slider or a cutter (depends on who you ask), the breaking offering that's carrying Alvarez's spring could bump his K/9 to the next level as soon as this season.
Of course, his underlying profile doesn't vanish with the new approach, but he lines up to add a sprinkle of growth to the skills he has always displayed, even if he has to sacrifice some control. We're supposed to take an arm learning a new pitch with a grain of salt, but when it's happening to one with an already beyond-his-years foundation, I'm more confident in the conversion.
As for the supporting cast: His park tends to allow plenty of homers, but those who man the Rogers Centre's soft-turfed infield is at least capable; the UZRs of Adam Lind, Brett Lawrie, Yunel Escobar and Kelly Johnson invoke more valor than vomit. Alvarez has the guile to counteract Rogers' homer-happiness.
We love to speak in absolutes in this industry, even when there are more shades of grey than we care to admit. SP tiers aren't solidly stratified among the sleeper depths, leaving plenty of justified hypotheticals to be addressed.
In buying late-round surgers, you look for some combination of component skills and stuff. A 22-year-old with strikeout upside that already induces weak contact - with as many as three types of fastballs and two types of changeups - stands out.
It's hard for a K/9 to blossom so soon in a career that hasn't shown much of it, but more often than not, you see power arms that can't limit free passes. If it's a power arm with Alvarez's control that has to add K's, the chase is hardly as much of a fantasy. Alvarez moving closer to his minor league K/9 in the mid-6.00 sector and sustaining the rest of his makeup would easily put him in the top-75 wheelhouse. His hard, downward-moving stuff could ring up more sticks by accident.
Player-pool perspective helps. You know who likely landed somewhere close to, if not in, most final top-75 SP ranks in mixed leagues last year? Ryan Vogelsong. Kyle Lohse. Jeff Karstens. Bartolo Colon. Philip Humber. Mostly luck-based, and ... maybe Colon carried as much upside as Alvarez is hinting at.
That pattern makes a smidge of sense, you say, because they have "experience" and, to some degree, "reliability." But why accept that as the only way to break through? It's becoming easier and easier for talented arms, even those like Alvarez with a limited MLB sample size that was fueled by some LOB% help, to make a significant fantasy dent.
(Plus, those names are good fallback plans if you whiff on the upside arm. Why jump the gun for the same-old, same-old?)
Remember, the point of this argument was that Alvarez has a chance to break the top 75 among mixed SP, statistically, this season - the possibility of Alvarez reaching such a level. If more experienced, less dominant arms can do it, Alvarez can at least jump and touch that tier with his knuckles, if not break through the ceiling.
I'd take my chances on Alvarez putting things together - if only for this year in advance of future regression - before I settle for praying the likes of Ivan Nova and Josh Collmenter beat the odds again.
Experience matters. But a relative lack of it shouldn't make irrelevant a player with talent that's already flashed it, to a degree, especially if it'll cost you peanuts to test it.
In this back-and-forth, the apprehension displayed by Flowers is, as Bobby Darin would proclaim, artificial.
Ouch. Maybe I am a jerk-face. I blame the tea.
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Succotash is generally made with lima beans, but edamame add protein to this colorful side. Shelled edamame are now commonly available year-round in the frozen food section of most supermarkets.
Yield: Serves 6 (serving size: 1/2 cup)
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Amount per serving
- Calories: 85
- Fat: 3g
- Saturated fat: 1.1g
- Monounsaturated fat: 0.8g
- Polyunsaturated fat: 0.7g
- Protein: 4.7g
- Carbohydrate: 10.9g
- Fiber: 2.3g
- Cholesterol: 4.5mg
- Iron: 1mg
- Sodium: 234mg
- Calcium: 19mg
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- 1/3 cup unsalted chicken cooking stock
- 1/2 teaspoon kosher salt
- 1/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
- 1 cup grape tomatoes, halved
- 2 tablespoons chopped fresh basil
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- 2. Melt butter in bacon drippings. Add onion; cook 6 minutes or until tender, stirring occasionally. Add corn and next 4 ingredients (through pepper). Bring to a boil; reduce heat, and cook, uncovered, 4 minutes or until liquid evaporates, stirring occasionally. Remove from heat. Stir in bacon, tomatoes, and basil.
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This week's MBML has news on Ben Kweller, Tennis, and Poliça. Plus, check out Hands Mantis, my latest Artist To Keep Your Eyes On. And of course, I've got new recommended listening picks. All this and more!
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. Plus, check out Hands Mantis, my latest Artist To Keep Your Eyes On.
Also, I've got a few
Recommended Listening
picks featuring new music that you should check out.
Let's get started...
Ben Kweller Flies A Kite
Unlike some artists who drop trailers for their new albums, Ben Kweller decided to take a piece from every song on his new album,
Go Fly A Kite
, and create a musical collage featuring the beginning and ending of each of the 11 songs.
Go Fly A Kite
arrives on February 7 via Ben's new record label, The Noise Company. Listen to the album's music collage titled "Heads and Tails" below.
Head & Tails
"Heads and Tails" Liner Notes:
1. Mean To Me (Intro)
2. Out The Door (Intro)
3. Jealous Girl (Intro)
4. Gossip (Intro)
5. Free (Intro)
6. Full Circle (Intro)
7. Justify Me (Intro)
8. The Rainbow (Intro)
9. Time Will Save The Day (Intro)
10. I Miss you (Intro)
11. You Can Count on Me (Intro)
11. You Can Count On Me (outro)
10. I Miss You (outro)
9. Time Will Save The Day (outro)
8. The Rainbow (outro)
7. Justify Me (outro)
6. Full Circle (outro)
5. Free (outro)
4. Gossip (outro)
3. Jealous girl (outro)
2. Out The Door (outro)
1. Mean to Me (outro)
Tennis Release New Track
Tennis have announced the follow-up to 2011's
Cape Dory
. The new album is called
Young and Old
and will arrive February 14, 2012 via Fat Possum. The new album was produced by The Black Keys' Patrick Carney. Check out the new album's first single, "Origins", below.
GAYNGS Branches Off To Poliça
GAYNGS was a supergroup founded by Ryan Olson that brought together an array of talent including Justin Vernon of Bon Iver and members of The Rosebuds. Now some of the GAYNGS-members are branching off to form their own project,
Vocalist Channy Leaneagh (formerly Casselle) and producer Ryan Olson make up the new collective using Olson's pop sensibilities and electronic adventurism as the perfect vehicle for Channy's recent evolution from a roots-folk band vocalist to a R&B-bred performer.
Work on the album began in June 2011 with the duo writing songs to make up the project's debut album,
Give You The Ghost
. Olson masterminded the beats and sequences while Channy applied her experimental vocals, using processing and synthesized textures to meld with the lush, electronic backgrounds of Olson's arrangements.
In just one month, the album was put together, consisting of 11 songs and featuring outside talent including drummers Ben Ivascu and Drew Christopherson and bass player Chris Bierdan. With these key additions they headed into the studio, bringing Mike Noyce (Bon Iver) to add his vocals on "Lay Your Cards Out" and "Wandering Star". To round it all out, the album was brought to Austin, TX, where it was mixed with Jim Eno (Spoon).
Give You The Ghost
will be released on Valentine's Day, the perfect mood setter with its sexy R&B rhythms balanced with an electro, goth-pop mood. Check out the track list below.
Track Listing
1. Amongster
2. I See My Mother
3. Violent Games
4. Dark Star
5. Form
6. The Maker
7. Lay Your Cards Out (feat. Mike Noyce)
8. Fist, Teeth, Money
9. Happy Be Fine
10. Wandering Star (feat. Mike Noyce)
11. Leading to Death
Hands Mantis
Hands Mantis, led by musician Erik Oatman, are this week's Artist To Keep Your Eyes On, a special look at underground talent that should be on your radar.
The Album:
Greatest Hits
Greatest Hits! by Hands Mantis
The Band -- Who? What do they play?
The band Hands Mantis consists of Erik Oatman, and various friends as they've contributed various instrumentation to each track over the years. These collaborators include:
Erik Mutzke as Prussia on drums on tracks 1 and 8,
Brett Oatman as Danny Glover on Bass Clarinet for track 2,
Nick Tripi as Machin on drums on tracks 2 and 3,
and Wolfe Nelson as himself on the saw on track 5.
Erik Oatman:
We are a loose-knit group of friends who've grown up together in Newport Beach playing music and collaborating on various songs and projects. I am currently playing Hands Manits' music in my current band
Cape Sound
with Jesse Clark on drums and samples and Zephyr Adee on bass.
Erik Oatman:
As these song we're written and recorded over a 6-year period, starting in high school and ending at the end of college at UCSC, my influences have changed as I've gone along. I'd say the groups that influence my raw writing process would be The Residents, Guided By Voices, John Maus, At the Drive-In, Animal Collective, and musique concrète. I'm also very interested in artists with multiple personas and attitudes towards song writing, especially Tom Waits and Shuggie Otis.
How would you describe your sound?
Erik Oatman:
Each song is an attempt at capturing a specific mood and idea that informs every aspect of the creative process, writing, recording, editing, mixing, etc. The music come from a stream-of-consciousness and the editing and layering is a type of collaging that solidifies a space and mood. In some cases the production technique overtakes the music itself in my mind as being central to the listening experience.
Where does the name Hands Mantis come from?
Erik Oatman:
The name is one that I arrived at on an acid trip. Shallow and vapid, I know, but that's the honest answer. I was hung up thinking about hands and the various things they can do, both literally and symbolically. The are biological instruments that set us apart from everything else on this planet. I was thinking about the full spectrum of activities and expressions that hands can perform, from construction to destruction, love and reverence to hate and aggression. This also got me to thinking about mantises, sex, death, predation, patience, blah, blah, blah.
From there, you could take it as far as you'd like. I don't expect people to be nearly as concerned with these elements as I am, although I guess that kind of range is relevant to the spectrum of music I've tried to record over the years and piece together for this "Greatest Hits!" album.
What can we expect next from the band?
Erik Oatman:
I'm currently working on my next solo album congruently with a live album my band Cape Sound. Several songs from "Greatest Hits!" will be on that live album, including "Bali Shaguar..." and "Wreck Dive". My current Hands Mantis album will have the same range of genres and production aesthetics.
The more notable differences, hopefully, will be a greater overall production value and further developed atmospheres and musical personas inhabiting each song. Whereas "Greatest Hits!" was a collection of more overtly lo-fi home recordings, this album will be produced within a much shorter range of time and with a less abrasive/muddy atmosphere.
For more of Hands Mantis, check out this cover of "St. James Infirmary Blues" featuring Danny Glover and Machin on bass clarinet and drums respectively; though, this cover will not be appearing on their next album.
St James Infirmary Blues
Hands Mantis
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The Head and The Heart -
iTunes Session
The latest in iTunes Sessions features folk band The Head and The Heart. If you haven't jumped on the bandwagon yet, you may want to now. The instrumentation is energetic and in fine form with Charity Thielen's violin and Kenny Hensley's piano still catching attention as they did on the debut. Jon Russell and Josiah Johnson's tag teamed vocals are clear and infuse the lyrics with emotion. When Thielen's voice pops in, it adds another bang to an already explosive combo. While some bands could simply "phone in" their performances for a session like this, The Head and The Heart go beyond doing carbon copies of the original songs, adding new life that listeners will enjoy. The two new songs aren't throwaways either and hint at what's to come from the band. Read the
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Amon Tobin -
Amon Tobin is an electronic artist known for a dazzling and impressive live show. After hearing his latest album,
, I can understand how it would translate to a larger-than-life scale. The opening track, "Journeyman", sounds as if something is being constructed with musical building blocks playing Tetris.
is aggressive and unrelenting but quite accessible if you're a fan of electronic music interspersed with science fiction noises and creepy soundscapes.
could very well be
The Twilight Zone
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Tom Hagerman
Idle Creatures
I admit that when it comes to instrumental music, I have a hard time getting past the lack of vocal accompaniment. I believe it's easier to tell a story or convey a message when there are actual words to a song. When only music is present, all I can go by for a blueprint is the song's title, but even then, I would change most of the song titles to "Boring". Tom Hagerman of Devotchka fame has released a new solo instrumental album mostly featuring chamber pop string arrangements. Shockingly, it's not boring. Hagerman's role in Devotchka has been spent playing a variety of instruments -- violin, accordion, piano and melodica – all which carry over to
Idle Creatures
. These songs are fully realized, exquisite scores that create a film within your mind. I was pulling images from my childhood, my present, and what I hope to be my future and fleshing them out with Hagerman's beautiful arrangements. Read the
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At least once a day, someone will write in and ask how to get huge without spending their entire paycheck on meals. Roughly one year ago, I wrote an article detailing 3 ways to eat big on a budget . I am going to expand on that article and discuss a few ways to eat big that aren't exactly perfect in the eyes of the paleo gods, but still fairly decent meals nonetheless. Getting big is hard and uncomfortable enough without breaking the bank along with it, wouldn't you say?
The first thing you will want to do on your gaining journey is increase your water intake to 150-200% of your normal intake. This is a mistake I made two years ago by not having enough water. Water will actually help decrease some of the feelings of bloat you will encounter, as well as flushing your system of excess junk that will inevitably accumulate.
The next thing you will need to do is get yourself a 5-8 quart crockpot. This is your crockpot, there are many like it, but this one is yours. Without your crockpot, you are nothing. Obviously, the greatest thing about a crockpot is you can throw in all the ingredients, go about your day, and come back to a crockpot that will contain at least 2-3 meals worth of food.
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A couple of my favorite crockpot dishes are loco moco and crockpot lasagna. These ingredients can be found reasonably cheap, especially if you live in an area with an ethnic grocery store. These stores don't usually look as crisp and pristine as your local grocery store, but the food is the same, so get over it, ya freaking snob.
If preparing food isn't your style, you can go to Costco and get prepared meals that you just have to stick in the oven. No, these meals aren't technically "paleo", but none of the world's biggest/strongest people are paleo, so that is something to chew on. One of my favorite Costco meals is their Kirkland Signature Lasagna (yea you know the one I'm talking about). The label says it feeds a family of twelve, but I just ate half of one for dinner. Nevertheless, for the low price of 13 dollars with ingredients you can actually pronounce, that is incredibly cheap. In my opinion, lasagna is one of the greatest meals to get big on: It contains numerous meat and protein sources (beef, sausage, ricotta cheese) fats (swiss and cheddar cheese) and carbs (noodles, tomato sauce).
|Crockpot lasagna
|Getting big isn't always pretty
Again, I advocate buying yourself a 1/4 or 1/2 a cow from a local butcher who specializes in grass-fed beef. It will cost a good chunk of change up front, but when you can buy high-quality beef for less than $5 for EVERY CUT on the cow, it makes the offer hard to turn down.
A lot of people want to get big with minimal fat gain. This is possible, but it can take a very long time, and honestly a little fat never hurt anyone. Are you a bodybuilder? Do you need less than 10% body fat? How much time do you really spend with your shirt off in anterior trunk flexion? Getting big is about getting strong, you can lose the fat later. It is better to gain strength quickly, with 5-10lbs of fat gain. You can easily lose the fat after you have gained strength and muscle size. If you are afraid of a little temporary chub, I really question your desire to get huge.
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"Glaucoma is the leading cause of preventable blindness in America, and it can't be reversed and that's the scary part about it. You could stop it with treatment and medication, but you can't go back and repair the damage or regain sight once it's been lost," says Glenna Beyer a Executive Director of Prevent Blindness Texas.
The risk of Glaucoma is four to five times higher in people of African or Caribbean descent. Those folks and people with diabetes or anyone who is very near sighted should be checked regularly after age 35. Others can wait until age 50, but by then, you really need a Glaucoma screening.
A list of the first few screenings in Lubbock next week are:
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Born February 27, 1934, in Lawton, Oklahoma, Navarre Scott Momaday was reared in New Mexico and Arizona as well as Oklahoma. He is of mixed Kiowa, Euro-American, and Cherokee descent. Momaday studied at the University of New Mexico, where he earned his bachelors degree in political science in 1958, and at Stanford University, where he received his masters degree in 1960 and his Ph.D. in 1963. The Way to Rainy Mountain was published the same year that Momadays House Made of Dawn (also in Literature and Its Times) won the Pulitzer Prize for literature. Weaving together three distinct voicesKiowa tribal stories, history, and personal narrativeThe Way to Rainy Mountain is largely an exploration of American Indian identity. The book represents the authors attempt to uncover and preserve the...
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UT3 on PS3 confirmed to have keyboard and mouse support {Joystiq Playstation}
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"Death" featuring one of my favorite people. @thepaminator
…from happiness! So I guess the title is apt.
My life is now complete, but I suppose I can hold on for a few more years and acquire more cats.
It depends. When you take selfies at Bradley's, then go home alone only to find you have less than 15 likes on your photo, are your tears as blue as the tiles on the walls?
Oh hey, D-Ray! Sugar britches is alive and well, finally. See you Sunday!!
I love how hardcore the guy that smashes the windshield is, even rolls off the car like some fucking ninja.
I am topless every Tuesday. Having a tumblr doesn't mean I will post nudies during my free time. There are plenty of desperate girls out there dying for your attention on this site! Go find them.
I don't really travel much anymore unless its with friends on vacation. With a full time job, I have no incentive to travel anymore unless I'm being paid. Not to sound mean, but traveling means taking time off work, and having fun doesn't pay my bills!
feels good to be drawing again! @thepaminator gots the death face.
My death face. Love me some stuntkid!
And original I made for Slacktory.
Mainly organic since I really enjoy aromatics. Though I have always wanted to pursue a career in HAZMAT, even if its just to lead me into a more lucrative lab position!
I am still working on my degree. My mother passed away a few years ago and she was putting me through college. She always said as long as I was in school full time that was my job. And it paid off as an life long Honor Roll student. With an estranged father relationship, I had to withdrawal from classes after her death mid-semester. He retired soon after so there is no money coming in from him. I've been working full time since trying to start a savings to fund the rest of my college career. I have a little over a year left but am unwilling to get into debt to finish. I am determined and hard working. I will finish my degree and be the certified Chemist I have always dreamed of being!
World's Most Beautiful Abandoned Places
Italian product manager and web designer Francesco Mugnai recently added a collection of images to his blog touting some of the most beautiful images of abandoned spots and modern ruins that he'd ever seen. The images Mugnai has captured come from empty castles, shuttered power plants, and dilapidated churches around the world. From a sunken yacht in Antarctica to a forever-closed amusement park in Japan, these images all make up a sort of anti-phoenix; rather than rising as new from the ashes, these husks remain preserved in decomposition, forcing viewers to confront the strange beauty of ruination.
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Promise me you will never stop, I want ass slaps as I walk by you, boob tweaks and ass grinds while I'm cooking, thigh caresses in the car, neck kisses while watching movies, hand bites almost everywhere, cheek strokes at table. Foot squeezes on the couch. and yes even crotch lifts as we climb up the stairs. I wanna be dipped and kissed in the grocery store, always close and kissing in elevators.
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So you want the pain to all go away? End the tears rolling down your face, cut everyone away from you, just to stop it all, make it all end. Yes, the pain will end for you, but what about your loved ones? What about the split second moment of when your parents or siblings walk into your room reminding you that dinner is ready, but instead they see their dead child in front of their eyes. The pain you had… Will now have moved onto your parents. Now I'm not trying to make you feel guilty but their world will become so dark, they will blame themselves every.single.day. 'Was it something I did?' 'Was it something I did?' They'll try to think it was all just a nightmare and they are going to wake up from this dream and you will be alive. They won't give up, they will try anything to not accept the truth. So after killing yourself, and after your parents discovering your body, what will they have to do next? Who's going to ring the school saying a student has killed them self? Who's going to tell your best friends that you have taken your own life?
You are probably are thinking 'oh i don't have any friends and my parents hate me anyways' in some cases that may be true but in most it is absolutely not. But i guarantee you that there is someone out there that loves you and would miss you dearly if you killed yourself. This someone is who you can feel safe in confronting your feelings with. Try to find this person and vent to them. You will feel like a weight has been lifted off your shoulders and you will feel better.
Just because the pain shall end for you, does not mean the pain will just automatically end for everyone. Everyone will remember you. People who didn't even have a conversation with you, will remember you. 'The kid that killed them self'. People on Facebook who have never even typed one word to you, will remember you.
suicide is permanent. there's no coming back. you're here for a reason, actually you're here for ∞ reasons. you're meant to be here. if you kill yourself now, how will you ever be able to be something? what if you're going to be the president or find the cure for aids or cancer or something seriously like that? so many people care about you, many more people than you actually think. plus, imagine all of the people that are really sick and are going to die soon even though they are too young and not ready. appreciate your life. whatever you're feeling now, will go away. and it might not go away for a while but everything ends. god doesn't put you through anything that you can't handle or overcome. you're better than this. you're strong. you're beautiful. life is hard, its hard for everyone
you have so much to look forward to in life and if you don't think there's is anything then make something to look forward to! The best way to do this is to make goals. Long term ones are the best but any goal is awesome. They can be anything from losing 10 pounds and getting better grades to getting hired to the job you've always dreamed of. Try your best to achieve these goals and stay motivated to do so! Once you've completed them you will feel so proud and good about yourself.
Now get counseling, get anything that doesn't involve taking your own life. Because there are so many people that care for you, even though you cannot see it. There are so many people that love you, even though they may never say it. You'd want to be proud and look back at how difficult your life was and just think 'wow, I really pulled through that one'. So please, do not pass your pain onto your loved ones. Suicide: a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Temporary, meaning you can stand over the problem. I know it's not going to be all easy and 'la la im happy now :)', because we all fucking know that is bullshit. But please, just try to get through whatever is making you feel this way. Do not run away from it, do not let people achieve what they set out to do. People who have nothing better to do with their lives then attack innocent people, are going to end up nowhere. Because by the end of the day it all comes down to jealousy. So just smile, walk away and say fuck you. You're better then anybody who makes you come to this breaking point of wanting to take your own life. You don't even know me, but I love you so much.
Chin up, you're beautiful
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A blog about my weight loss journey, how I stay motivated and a hodge podge of other things, that make me, who I am.
Wednesday, May 22, 2013
Shocking your system
The main thing I do is switch up my workout routines on a regular basis. I never do the same things each week. Even if I am doing say Ripped in 30 or 30 day Shred, I do other things as well. One week it might be throwing in some 20-30 minute kickboxing workouts. The next week, I will throw in some tabata. The week after that, I do both of those, along with JM. I try and mix up what one I do at lunch, and what one I do at night. I also always switch up my rest days. And if I can get outside and walk or run for 20 minutes, I will throw that in. I don't want my body to ever get used to one thing. I know it is working, because I am still sore, each week. I am on week 2 of Ripped in 30 and I am still getting sore. Same with tataba, that thing kicks my ass, every time. Not in the way that it is hard, but each time I do it, I push just a little harder. Like when I do squats, I do them lower. High knees, I go higher. Skaters, I go lower. I am always pushing myself. WHY???? Because I like to see just how far I can go. AND...I want to see just how great of shape I can get in!
When it comes to food, I try and mix it all up. I stay with the same calories, I just mix those calories up. When we eat and drink the same things, every single day, our bodies stall. Same with workouts. If you are doing the same workout every single day, your body gets used to it and you stop progressing. You gotta trick that bad boy! Here is what my week looks like:
Sunday-Ripped in 30, bike ride.
Monday-Jill Coleman 24 minute kickboxing
Tuesday-Rest Day
Wednesday-Ripped in 30, 19 minute tabata
Thursday-Ripped in 30
Friday-Jill Coleman Kickboxing
Saturday-Bike Ride, Ripped in 30
Sunday-Ripped in 30, taebo
As far as my meals go, this week, we are grilling out each night. We have done chicken, pork chops and turkey burgers so far. I pair my protein with a veggie and a carb. I have been having Fage Greek yogurt (plain) with fresh fruit like watermelon and pineapple, for my snacks. This is the time of year that I LOVE to eat. Fresh fruit and grilling, does it get better than that. I have also been drinking a lot less wine. Not that I ever drink more than a four ounce glass during the week, but now I have a Becks Premium light. I have this while the kids are playing and the hubby is grilling. For breakfast I have been making my own oatmeal. I throw some old fashioned oats in a baggy with the flax seed. When I get to work, I throw in some fresh strawberries and pop it in the micro for 2.5 minutes. SO yummy and no artificial crap in it. You know like the instant packs have. My mid morning snack has been 35 calorie high fiber toast with all natural peanut butter. SO YUMMY! Lunch will be a salad full of fresh veggies. I am loving cucumbers right now with sriracha peas and my own vinaigrette with olive oil and balsamic vinegar. I also throw in some blue cheese crumbles. After the salad I will have either some protein and a sweet potato or a healthy choice meal. I try to avoid packaged meals but sometimes, I have to take the convenience route.
With the holiday weekend coming up, I am already thinking of meals to plan for the family. I don't use the holiday's as an excuse to be "bad". I just don't want to feel like shit come Tuesday. I see lots of fresh fruit, veggies and grilled food, happening! I will also bake some yummy strawberry crisp and make some mock ice cream sandwiches with my PB2, cool whip, graham crackers and Hershey syrup (the low sugar kind). Healthy food doesn't have to be icky and boring!
Happy Hump Day!!
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holyhaberdashery said...
"It's now crazy efficient, can be casted while moving..."
Past tense of cast is cast. Ugh. It's almost as bad as when people say "more funner" or "pasgetti" instead of spaghetti.
That pet peeve out of the way, they really should have kept Holy Shock in the Holy Tree. Non healing specs healing on the move seems counter intuitive. All three specs having access to all three basic heals seems to make infinitely more sense.
The difference is that 'casted' is at least a legitimate mistake due mostly to the fact that the verb 'cast' is not common outside of fishing or fantasy, whereas people who say 'more funner' or 'pasgetti' are doing it on purpose for the tone it creates, similar to leetspeak.
As for Holy Shock being available to all three specs, I think that has the potential to go a long way in letting paladins engage their raid awareness. Remembering the damage component, it does for example allow a Ret paladin to make the snap decision: "The tanks just switched on Festergut. If I Shock the boss, no one's going to complain - I'm DPS and I'm doing my job. But should I Shock the tank to help the healers out a little?"
Granted, a Holy Shock from a Ret paladin won't do a lot. But every now and then you run into situations where a boss does maybe 10 or 11 overkill and the raid wipes. Tiny little things carry the day in those moments.
holyhaberdashery said...
And the article was written by someone who should be well acquainted with fantasy by now.
So besides instant Exorcism procs Rets need another instant nuke?
Also, I've never known an Enhancement shaman to waste a Maelstrom proc on a heal--unless it was for himself.
My problem is that healing on the run is *power* and should be reserved for the Paladin's Holy spec. Ret already have a way to cast instant heals, and Prot shouldn't need this ability.
If we're to go to a 3 heal system (low, med, high) then they should all have a cast time.