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Reasons to stick with Windows Vista and avoid Ubuntu
As you may recall, outgoing PC Magazine editor Jim Louderback had almost nothing good to say about Vista in his most recent column. Just about everyone I know that has used Vista is going to stick with it and Information Week poses the reasons why that not so strangely, I agree with.
The main reason is Aero Glass, Aero Glass is pretty, windows fade in and out and there's a glossy transparent look to it, who cares if you need a NASA supercomputer to run it? Gamers already have enough adequate hardware capabilities for it and we're usually suckers for pretty shiny things that gives us improvements of any kind. Or you could accept Alexander Wolfe's explanation of "With Aero, Vista has a professional user interface, and it just makes working on your PC a more pleasant experience." Sure but it's pretty, that's reason enough for me.
It seems Vista also has some pretty good admin tools for recovering from unstable system configurations, problem tracking, hardware monitors and so on. As Wolfe points out most of these are transparent to the user unless Vista has a problem to fix or has a solution for a pre-existing problem, an example would include a driver update to fix a known conflict.
Despite those complaining about application compatibility in Vista the fact is that most programs designed for XP will run under Vista, simply click past the "Compatibility Warning" dialog or if it does have a problem, uninstall the program and install it using "XP SP2 Compatibility" mode, sometimes that works after it is installed as well. Adobe PhotoShop CS is not explicitly Vista compatible but runs just fine and I'm talking about regular old "CS" not "CS2″ or "CS3." There are other examples of this as well, just pop in that CD for your XP application and install it in Vista, 99% of the time, it will work. Though this only applies to the release version of Vista, not the beta or RC versions which were a bit more touchy.
Vista is easy to install, no, really it is, from installation screen to booting the operating system takes about 30 minutes (usually slightly less). Best of all, you'll find most of your hardware working, save for some printers and scanners or wireless networking devices that would require specialized drivers.
It's stable, Vista has yet to crash on me and if it has crashed it was due to faulty hardware which is not a problem with the operating system itself, replacing the faulty hardware fixed the problem, every time.
He goes on to talk about a few things that could be fixed in Vista but by and large it is one of the best operating systems to date, more stable than XP if just a tad slower on some older systems.
Now, allow me to tell my story of attempting to use Ubuntu again, this time around I was actually able to install it because my new laptop has a nvidia graphics card and all my hardware worked right out of the install except for the special processor features which is a big deal to me because processor throttling will save battery power and produce less noise because the fan won't be working overtime, Ubuntu insists that my Turion 64×2 processor does not support that feature and yet it's perfectly supported under Vista. I have neither the time nor inclination to figure out just what they're talking about on how to configure this in the command line, even then it's not guaranteed to work.
Display resolution, I was under the impression that all features of my nvidia card would be supported right out of the Ubuntu install, they weren't. Namely I could not set the native display resolution to 1440 x 900, after about 15 minutes of digging around I found that I had to install the nvidia-glx driver, if it is even a driver, I'm not sure but frankly, this should be included the the Ubuntu package because Vista requires no such special modifications and it is a "special modification." Though the Synaptic package manager handled things like a charm, in this case.
Update installation was a breeze, what was not a breeze was getting the "advanced" GUI effects working, sure the developers would have you believe that clicking the "Enable Desktop Effects" button would work, it doesn't and it's expirmental but it's barely Alpha in my opinion since not all graphics cards are supported. Then there is Beryl which Synaptic installed but I still can't activate it, there's some mish mosh command line workaround, no thanks.
Installing themes, oh this has to be the worst thought out feature of the whole thing. This requires almost exclusive use of the command line or at least most of the tutorials go through the command line. Either way the one theme I wanted, "Ubuntu Studio" (no I didn't want the actual Ubuntu Studio because of its half baked text based installer) had to be installed using the command line, and surprise, it is either unavailable or doesn't work, I really can't tell because it spits out some odd errors. I could look them up but seeing as how I'm not going to search for a solution which would no doubt use the command line, I'll pass.
The point is, doing almost anything cool or enabling any of the cool effects in Ubuntu require use of the command line (the terminal in Linux land) and frankly I feel that if there is a perfectly good GUI front end to something, use that instead because no home user is going to drop to a command line to do something cool and even advanced users hate using command lines (yes, me). I don't claim to be an advanced Linux user but I am in the Windows world which I can completely avoid use of the command line in, Linux should be like that. Command line use should be ended completely in consumer distros of Linux, plain and simple, everything should have a GUI front-end.
Doing simple things, require dropping to the command line, some packages not on Synaptic required some weird extract, install, place in this directory command, which I usually ended up typing in wrong the first or second time and typing in a long cryptic command, twice, is, frankly annoying.
Let's go back to Vista, pop in DVD, grab a soda, maybe order a pizza, oh look, Vista is installed and almost everything works and look, I can download drivers and double click them to install, what a revelation, why are such things lost on the Linux world?
I'm not saying to avoid Ubuntu completely but if you're really expecting that seamless experience, forget about it and I still don't even have Flash player installed so that should say something right there. I shouldn't have to drop to the command line to install Flash player. Now, it's just kind of sitting on a partition and will remain relatively unused, that's space I could have used for movies, music or something more useful.
72 Responses to "Reasons to stick with Windows Vista and avoid Ubuntu"
University Update - Linux - Reasons to stick with Windows Vista and avoid Ubuntu:
August 21st, 2007
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August 21st, 2007
Yo dude. Your article doesn't make any sense. You say "Vista has only crashed from faulty hardware". Then you must have the worst luck with hardware failing all the time or you're just full of crap. You haven't talked about Ubuntu crashing, at all, from "faulty hardware". In my experience, and I'm sure I'm way more experienced than someone claiming not to have much experience like you, I've seen Vista crashing on perfectly fine hardware on the first boot. But I'm sure that's just the hardware, isn't it?
You also talk about all these cool features Vista has for recovering from faulty system configurations. But, if Vista is just as cool as you say, a dummy user shouldn't be doing anything other than default installs with any programs or hardware or drivers anyway. "faulty system configurations" is such a general term you throw around. I think a more accurate depiction of the problem would be that Vista has tools built in for saving it's butt when it screws up.
Sure, Vista has a lot of cool effects. Linux's advanced 3D effects aren't as mature. It's getting there, but I don't think you'll hear the general Linux community claiming they are.
Is that all you can talk about is Aero?
Linux distro's come with thousands of other pieces of great software. Linux will do more out of the box than Vista install, hands down. Linux does MORE things BETTER.
There's not a perfect OS, but quit tryin to be a marketing voice for M$ and talking about things you obviously are not educated on at all. You don't work on large networks like I do that get screwed up all the time by stand-alone Vista machines. I've yet to see a Linux box bring down an entire domain.
John W:
August 21st, 2007
Any fool who uses any Microsoft product deserves what he gets.
August 21st, 2007
That's because I've used Vista far longer than Ubuntu and I had a bum graphics card that presented several problems and after I replaced it, it was fine. I did not have said graphics card with Ubuntu, nor did I install Ubuntu on the same system.
It could be the hardware, it could be the software, in my case it was one piece of hardware. Linux does more things better if your patient enough with the command line, I'm not.
You're right, this wasn't about the enterprise level and I never said it was.
Dave Field:
August 21st, 2007
Couldn't agree more with the above comment..
If Vista is a leap forward after 6years of development, and i'm sure in some areas it is, why can i run CompizBeryl 3D effects on Linux, and not Aero on Vista? on My PC?
You state..
"Installing themes, oh this has to be the worst thought out feature of the whole thing. This requires almost exclusive use of the command line or at least most of the tutorials go through the command line. "
themes are installed using drag and drop via the Gnome desktop, or point and click in KDE.. have been for ages..
Chill out about the command line, i use it all the time in XP, its quicker than a Gui, try finding your IP address quickly in Vista.. as opposed to the command line.. Tools are tools.
You state
"Doing simple things, require dropping to the command line, some packages not on Synaptic required some weird extract, install, place in this directory command, which I usually ended up typing in wrong the first or second time and typing in a long cryptic command, twice, is, frankly annoying."
for most of the software you need to use on Ubuntu, its either a .deb file, (download, point, click, installed) or Synaptic (Open, choose, click, download installed) its only bleeding edge stuff in reality which needs command line access, or setting up a webserver, mail server or FTP stuff, which is out of this reviews remit..
Again, you state "Let's go back to Vista, pop in DVD, grab a soda, maybe order a pizza, oh look, Vista is installed and almost everything works and look, I can download drivers and double click them to install, what a revelation, why are such things lost on the Linux world?"
Oh do me a favour..
Let me take 2 items of recent hardware.. Logitech Quickcam, and an HP Deskjet F300 printer.. Please follow the instructions above, and get these working.. oh, they don't.. Ubuntu? Out of the box.. The HP Printer, what a nightmare.. MB upon Mb of stuff i don't want to install as part of a driver.. Ubuntu.. plugin, turn on, install, go, no download..
The problem, you have, as do many users like yourselves, when reviewing Linux, is not that you are anti linux, its just that you are basing your review on years of Windows experience, and little or no linux experience, so Linux takes you out of your comfort zone.. you state yourself above..
"This requires almost exclusive use of the command line or at least most of the tutorials go through the command line."
And as i point out, thats not actually true, however, as you didn't know another way of doing it, you quoted this as fact..
Another issue i have is why all windows journos have an issue with Text based installers? XP had one.. and why do i need a pretty routine to install software anyway.. when most of the time i'm just pressing Enter for OK.. Lets be honest, with the number of clicks it takes Vista to confirm anything, is a point and click interface that much better?
My advice to you, is not quite as stern as the gentleman above, it is soley, rather than make incorrect comment as fact, and mislead people into wrong assumptions, lets agree, your review, is based on a preferred Windows background, had you given Ubuntu 1/10th of the time you have given learning Windows over the years, do you belive you would have had so much of a hard time? no, because possibly, if you didn't know the right answer, you would know where to get it?
A far better experiment, on your behalf, and a far more valid one, would be this..
Load Ubuntu on your PC for 1 month. each week, report back on your findings.. Don't use Windows for that month.. I honestly would be interested to see what you come back with after 1 month.. Then take your observations, positive and negative, and provide feedback to the Ubuntu Development team, who unlike Redmonds drones, do listen.. Guess what.. they will improve this operating system…
Dave Field:
August 21st, 2007
Sorry for the record UbuntuStudio has a text installer, but Ubuntu 7.04 has a point and click install, which you don't have to do immeidiatly, as you can run the whole OS from a CD first to make sure things work..
August 21st, 2007
I don't see a point in Vista, it's just XP with the fancy GUI and really annoying security features. If you want a good experience use XP, it's a good mature OS and guess what, no driver issues and all my software (which I paid good money for) still runs. I understand that Microsoft has to make money somehow, but please, don't piss and then tell me it's raining.
Vista has been rushed out, it's in beta stage right now and it probably needs a couple of service packs before it's any good. By that time the hardware will catch up as well.
As for Linux, it's not really fair to compare something that's free to something that very expensive ($500 for an OS?). You get what you pay for and in case of Vista there is just no value for your money.
August 21st, 2007
YES, it is just to hard for you to open a window and type "beryl-manager" and close the window.Two words is just too much!!!!
August 21st, 2007
Am I the only one who finds this article ironic against vista? Nobody would find in this stuff a real reason to use vista…
If I have spoiled an obvious joke, excuse me.
Shea Kauffman:
August 21st, 2007
The main reason to use Vista is Aero Glass, eh? boy that's such a huge selling point. When I'm staring at thousands of lines of computer code, I just sit her thinking to myself… Gee I wish I had neato effects for my desktop environment. Not to mention… if the main selling point of a computer was its attractiveness we'd all have been using macs for years.
As for the administrative tools in Vista… I can't figutre out where they even are let alone how to use them; and I am not new to windows. I am MCSE for windows 2000.
Vista is easy to install? So what? Every major operating system in the world is easy to install!
Most software works in Vista? Can you explain to me why I can't get CivIV running in it? Oh and about those diologue boxes, does the operating system really need to verify that I really want to do something three different times? An operating system should assume really obvious things like that a program that requires a compatability mode is run in compatability mode.
Vista has crashed on me with its default configurations on my brand new laptop for which it was installed.
A tad slower? It takes forever just to log in, and this is a brand new top of the line laptop!
Now on to Ubuntu:
So let me get this strait throttling is important to you but you don't care to make it work? It sounds to me like you aren't even trying.
You had to dig around to figure out that the driver was needed? You could have looked in your "system tray" seen a thing that looked like a pci card, clicked enable, it would have downloaded and installed it, and then youd be able to set your resolution however you want.
Yeah sometimes desktop effects don't work, see previous talk about caring.
Try installing the Ubuntu Studios them in Vista.
Yes it's true you never have to use the command line in windows. The best feature of vista (in my opinion) however is that for once it is possible to do nearly everything from the command line. Frankly, once the system is configured in Ubuntu, what do you need the command line for? The only thing really would be trouble shooting and administration. Is that really harder than editing the registry? For most problems in linux it is simply a matter of copying a couple lines of text and pasting it into the terminal.
Furthermore you say that no normal user is willing to drop to the command line?!?! My girlfriend uses Ubuntu (her laptop was second hand and came without an OS). She is REALLY happy about the command line, because "it is so easy to solve problems" when she has them. The terminal definitely should never be ended. Though I'll give you that more things need guification.
You dont have flash player? Google freaking exists! google: how to install flash on ubuntu
It's really that easy!
How much space does Ubuntu take up on your hard drive? Cause let me tell you, I had to leave 15 gigs partitioned for Vista! 15 is barely enough for the OS and one aplication! And that's for basic after I removed all the preloaded junk. So I have 15 gigs of space so that I can look at the web pages I am developing in IE7 (IE6 runs in Linux thanks to wine), and to have a recovery partition. (It is always good to have two partitions so that eaither one can rescue the other in the event of hardware cotastrophy)
Anyway, don't be dumb.
August 21st, 2007
I think that windows vista is awsome farr batter than XP was when it first came out ubuntu is alright but i like vista better what ever you do dont get a mac macs are horrible machines that suck very badly and freeze all of the time
August 21st, 2007
WOW can we say Ubuntu/Linux Haters! yeap, I have gone through everyone of your articles and there is not one article that is not biased towards Windoze, good luck with that, LOL I too use to be a XP,Vista faithful until I used Ubuntu, compare to windows it just works and as far as your Aero effects go are nothing compared to compizfusion you can take a lookie here! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4Fbk52Mk1w&mode=related&search=
Oh yeah again good luck with windoze I've had it with it. Thanks for the laughs though.
August 21st, 2007
I don't normally reply to blog posts, but you're an idiot. You complain that it is not a "seamless" experience, without knowing anything at all. I'm sorry, but I was a fairly average computer user when I installed Ubuntu 5.04 for the first time, and I can tell you that working through little "snags" was not a problem for me back then. If you're going to write about technology, at least do it in a semi-educated manner. Or, if you choose to write as though you're an old lady purchasing her first computer, please write about Vista in that manner, and tell me how many things would be simple there. I've seen people use Vista. No, not your grandma first starting out, but college students. Students who spend time on the computer, and who know how to do it. They have trouble with many things, from internet connection to installed software. Any new operating system has a learning curve, and quite frankly, you wrote this review with the intention of giving Ubuntu a bad one. You say you need the command line to install themes, which is not true. In fact, while I haven't used Vista's theme manager, Ubuntu lets you install third-party themes way better than XP, which had to be hacked. All you do is download the theme, open the theme manager (system->preferences) and drag the theme from your files to the theme manager. Then, select the theme from the list.
When it comes to GUI, I partially agree with you. I agree that everything should have a sane GUI front-end, which will do whatever the user wants. Removing the command line completely would be completely stupid, for lack of better wording. Even as a novice user of Ubuntu, I prefer the command line for many tasks because it's easier for me to use.
I guess the moral of the story is that you should spend a little bit of time getting to know an OS before you review it, and maybe go in with the idea that being different from Windows isn't always bad. Until then, all your views will be like this: complete crap.
August 21st, 2007
"Vista has yet to crash on me and if it has crashed it was due to faulty hardware"
Heheh, such ambivalence. Well, did it or didn't it?
August 21st, 2007
To be honest, this seems like a very, very biased article.
You only highlighted the positives of Windows and the only the Negatives of Ubuntu, when i'm sure both OS's have both.
You didn't really compare the same things in the OS's either.
It was more along the lines of "Vista rules; this is why." and "Ubuntu is crap; this is why."
I know plenty of people who have had loads of problems with Vista, you can't really make such sweeping statements about OS's based only on your personal experience. Different people with different configurations have different experiences.
Its not my intention to insult you or undermine your article, I'm just saying maybe read it over as an unbiased 3rd party, and maybe you'll see the same heavy bias and lack of structure that I do.
August 22nd, 2007
Some of the other guys that write on here are actually a good read. You, well i am surprised they have not got rid of you yet. You are bringing this website down. You do not have a clue about anything do you? You really do not know what the hell you are babbling on about. Right from the start it was clear that vista could do nothing wrong in your eyes. You stay with your DRM, WGA, virus, spyware, and i'll stay with an OS i have control of.
Seriously though, you should stop writing articles like this and find something else to do. You are not cut out for it. I know, know, it's upsetting but it's time to move on jonathan, when i find i'm no good at something i move on so maybe you should too. There are plenty more jobs out there for you, just don't choose one too technical.
August 22nd, 2007
Wow. I haven't even read most of the comments, but sure seems there is a lot of hate mail here.
Doesn't bother me though. This whole post was so out there in sheep land that the only logical assumption is that it was meant for sarcasm, and in that light, it was rather amusing.
If this post was sincere, then I highly recommend the that the writer should donate his brain to charity since there are far more deserving people on the waiting lists that will make better use of it. He should probably also pay Microsoft for the privilege of owning a brain in the first place. Don't forget the tax on each individual thought as well, but that probably won't hit him too hard.
Either way, thanks for the humor.
August 22nd, 2007
It really sounds like your ego got damaged when you tried a new non-Windows OS and couldn't get it to work using solely your "advanced" (even though you have to avoid cmd at all costs) Windows knowledge.
I had to use the terminal in Ubuntu 1 time in order to install the correct graphics driver.
Can you do that in Windows without the driver CD? Yeah you can….but oh, what about the driver for internet? What if you dont have that CD?
Ubuntu works from the start with internet. Terminal commands are almost never needed. Even with composting, themes, media players etc can all be installed and configured graphically (and free I should also add).
August 22nd, 2007
Hey Jonathan,
How about posting links to your 2 previous anti-Linux postings. You know the first one where you blatered on about how difficult Linux was to use.
Throw in the second one where you nuked your production laptop and blamed the OS. Now that was entertainment. You left ranting how you would never ever touch Linux again even if someone paid you. You said you ordered a Mac…whatever happened there?
Face it, just as some people were lost using the internet unless they used AOL, you are a Windows guy. It's obvious you won't use Linux because it's not Windows, and you are too inflexible to learn a new skill set. Here's some quotes from your blog of June 2nd http://vista.blorge.com/2007/06/02/its-not-vista-capable-its-liberated-by-ubuntu/
"To get to the point, there is some Ubuntu propaganda floating around that it's easy to install and configure, that may be, as long as you don't have an ATi graphics card and are fine using a command line to work around that, I'm not so I didn't bother and I never will (that is, will again)."
"Vista has its faults, more than one I'm afraid, it's propensity to detest older hardware and refusal to use XP drivers for hardware that does not yet (and may never) have a Vista driver. Using a XP driver on Vista can cause Blue Screens, at least in my case it has but I need that hardware to function at least part of the time, Blue Screen or not."
I'm confused. Did you actually need to go online and troubleshoot the above problem? Did you download drivers from manufacturers websites?
What happened to "Let's go back to Vista, pop in DVD, grab a soda, maybe order a pizza, oh look, Vista is installed and almost everything works and look, I can download drivers and double click them to install, what a revelation, why are such things lost on the Linux world?"
For the love of God, just admit Linux is too difficult for you to understand, you don't have the knowledge, experience or will to learn it. Stay with the lowest common denominator OS. a man should know his limitations.
August 22nd, 2007
The main reason is Aero Glass, Aero Glass is pretty, windows fade in and out and there's a glossy transparent look to it, who cares if you need a NASA supercomputer to run it?
If this is the main reason, boy are you missing a real 3D experience. Look at Beryl, Compiz/Fussion for a comparison.
Search YouTube for "Beryl" and "Vista" and watch the video to see the difference. There is a video that shows the two in comparison. If you think transparent windows fading are pretty, try windows that go up in flames or wobble when you move them. Or multiple desktops to separate you work that rotate on a 3D cube/pentagon/hexagon or no matter how many work spaces you need.
Aero is so old as i have had transparent application windows for ages in Linux.
I do agree on the driver issue but this is legal. You pay Microsoft for the benefit of having the NVIDIA driver come with the Vista DVD. Due to legal issues, the drive cannot be supplied with the Ubuntu "CD". Of course NVIDIA has issues with their Vista drivers as well.
We installed Ubuntu 7 on a shared computer at work because out of the box, it played more media files than Windows XP.
Is Ubuntu perfect? No. Is Vista Perfect? No. This is why many people are paying to get XP for their computers that came with Vista. Also why there are looming court cases over Vista compatibility issues.
Happy Linux users for over a decade, both at work and home.
August 22nd, 2007
This article here is a waste of bandwidth and internet usage because the author is so biased and wrong its not even funny. It obvious that this is another attempt at FUD and I am glad to see that others recognize it as such.
August 22nd, 2007
Linux isn't a "product" or for the mentally lazy…I suggest you stick with an operating system that fits you, like Windows.
August 22nd, 2007
I have installed plenty of themes in Ubuntu.. always just by dragging and dropping. When I install new software I dont have to restart mu Ubuntu, I do have to with Vista.
How cant you care about needing strong PCs to run Vista??? what about all those people who just cant aford it?? I installed Ubuntu in my laptop with little memory… could not have done that with Vista.
Beryl works fine with my laptop, and it´s not so cutting-edge, just marked it in synaptic, click install, and its all working.
You have serious virus problems if you dont stall an antivirus… we dont have that in Ubuntu, at least not to the extend of Windows.
I agree on the simplicity that Vista offers for most things.. and Ubuntu is still back on some of this, I dont like command lines eather.. but I trust thar it´s just a matter of time.
Ubuntu rolls out a new version every 6 months… Vista is been overdue for some time now… and we dont know when the next version will come, till then, all you have to do is patch away… and depend only on M$ to solve all your problems…
Good luck with it.
August 22nd, 2007
What is it whit the Windows users and their complaints with the command line?
I've seen plenty of times instructions to install programs, hot fixes, drivers etc that tell you TYPE something in the run box.
So, tell me: Whats the difference?
August 22nd, 2007
I installed Ubuntu 7.04 on my Sharp notebook. Everything worked out the box, even Wifi WSA-PSK which has been a nightmare under Win XP. Extra software installs easily and automatically from an easy GUI. And no software keys, no reboots after install/uninstall. Just so much easier in most regards.
August 22nd, 2007
hey, be honest… how much is Bill Gates paying you for saying that crap….?
August 22nd, 2007
I have a new Samsung Q1 tablet that came preloaded with Vista and its running really slow. It boots in 2:30 minutes with all the animations turned off.
Ubuntu detected all my stuff and I only had to configure the stylus. The machine boots in 45 seconds.
Any questions. LINUX is here to stay and Microsoft fears that.
We, the people, are taking control of what an OS should be.
August 22nd, 2007
I wonder why Microsoft improved their command line functionality by developing PowerShell insteading of dumping the command that the author suggests all Linux distros should do? To answer the rhetorical question, it's because the command line under Linux was (and still is far more powerful and efficietn for administrative tasks than the CLI in Windows. The scripting capabilities in Linux are phenomenal compared to Windows.
"Microsoft has committed to building future GUI tools on top of PowerShell, ensuring that the core administrative functionality remains scriptable. Exchange Server 2007′s management user interface, for example, is built on top of PowerShell. In most everyday tasks, PowerShell can be used in place of CMD.EXE and Windows Script Host (WSH). However, for backward-compatibility purposes both CMD.EXE and WSH will continue to be supported by Windows."
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August 22nd, 2007
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August 23rd, 2007
What if I have a PC without DVD? No Vista!
What if I have a 512 ram or less PC? No Vista!
What if I have a 64 MB video card or an unsupported better card? No Vista Effects for you.
What if I have a 800 Mhz PC? No Vista!
Yes, that the reality of more than 50% computers owned by word population. So no Vista!
P.S.: Ubuntu is really really simple to install, plus it takes about 20 min in a PC capable of running Vista and we get no driver and hardware failure. Also no Virus and other craps. Oh, and Ubuntu is still much faster in the Desktop.
Bill Gates:
August 23rd, 2007
Thank you for highlighting some of the greatest achievements of my latest operating system. Linux continues to be a cancer on the face of software innovation and must be stopped before it destroys more intellectual property. It is important for users to understand that reliability, freedom, and interoperability can only be ensured by everyone running the same software, the right software, and that is windows vista.
Jill Bates:
August 23rd, 2007
The problem here clearly lies outside of the computer.
August 23rd, 2007
well, another stupid man,
i have never seen a kid like this before?
i have xp(15%) and Ubuntu(85%) both on my machine.
last month, my friend gave me a pirated activated dvd of vista.
i installed it by reformating my whole hard drive.
it took me 1 hour and 47 minutes to install it.
i have 1 gb ram and 2.00 dual core processor. still the computer was slow.
i can't even play some of my games like american army and kuma war which i was playing flawlessy on xp.
i have to switch back in two weeks.
again i have ubuntu, and xp on my machine.
i don't understand in what ways vista is batter then xp?
JAck BAuer:
August 24th, 2007
Wow jonathan firt Wii bashing, now linux, what have you got against these devices. Please tell me you arent being bribed by M$, i now know with full certainty if i want to read a crap article i'll look you up on this website. Your a Joke i mean look at your picture… sexy
August 24th, 2007
Anything good is worth working for. I'm 100% M$ free and couldn't be more pleased. That's what matters most to me, FREE as in FREE BEER and also FREE as in FREEDOM. Ubuntu also has a community that nothing else can compare to. Don't return to the Dark $ide….
Kevin Fries:
August 24th, 2007
Am I the only one that did not take this article seriously? I thought it was obvious that this guy was spoofing the Microsoft press releases.
In all seriousness… I use Linux allot, and find it much less trouble to use. I have yet to meet anyone who has used it for more than a month that has not seen real value in Linux (Ubuntu especially). Some have decided to stay with Windows, but most have switched. The trend to switch is actually growing from what I have observed. The problem is familiarity.
Just two weeks ago, the kids down the street were having enormous problems with their WinXP machine. They asked me to fix it. I went down and looked at it and saw two glaring problems: the version of XP was not legit; and WGA had corrupted IE. I gave this "ordinary user" three options: reinstall their copy of Windows and NEVER update or suffer the same fate; I would take them down to Office Depot and purchase them a proper copy of Windows, from which we would reinstall everything; or I would install Ubuntu (Feisty). As a test, I ran Feisty from the CD for the night to insure all their hardware would be supported. It was, with 0 exceptions. Not only that, but Ubuntu from CD ran faster than Windows XP from disk!!! Well they thought about it for several days, and opted for Feisty. I moved all their music and other files to a portable hard drive, and installed. I reformatted the drive, and with install and patch updates, had a clean, well running machine in 2 hours, even on this 600Mhz POS.
The morale of the story is simple… Knowledge is power, ignorance is bliss. I can not imagine anyone could be this blissful, so I am just going to assume this is just a parody… But then again, this opinion could just be making me a little blissful myself
August 24th, 2007
Here's a link to Grandmom's guide to Linux
August 25th, 2007
You, sir, are a buffoon. If you've got so much money to pony up for high end components, how about looking into a new brain.
Joseph Valencia:
August 27th, 2007
Linux sucks.
August 28th, 2007
This has got to be the stupidest article i have ever read on Vista vs Ubuntu. I personally do not have Vista, but you comparisons to ubuntu are a load of cr*p. As stated above, THEMES ARE BY FAR THE EASIEST THINGS TO INSTALL!! (it even has a gui) Beryl definitely has more features than Aero can ever have (from what i have seen) This article is pure cr*p
Steve "Bullshit" Ballmoor:
August 28th, 2007
Ouch… Errrggggg .. … Hasta la Vista (Sorry, Bill)
August 29th, 2007
These are the two previous pearls of Linux wisdom from this blogger.
This site has chronicled the WGA fiasco, audio drivers killing network throughput and various wireless security holes. You yourself have talked about BSODs and XP drivers not working on hardware you need to use. You are just embarrassing yourself by writing about a subject you have no expertise or willingness to learn about it. You won't use the CLI. We get it. Even M$ knows the power of the CLI, see Powershell. In the interest of fairness, swear to never use the run box on the start menu, or regedit. Never modify an ini file with a text editor. Don't install an antivirus program, because it doesn't come with Vista. Don't go to a manufacturer website to update hardware drivers, because it's not intuitive and Vista will never suggest it. And never ever write about Ubuntu (which is not the same as Linux) it will never work for you because of a closed, inflexible mind and "skill" set.
luke carrier:
September 3rd, 2007
Dude, chill. Don't knock GNU/Linux. Its miles better than that crap you gloat about called windows pisstake. I know I've used it. I've been using ubuntu fine for about two years now, I've got beryl working through editing one config file and I've installed themes without a problem. Truth is you're just some dickhead who wants a bit of bum with bill gates. Grow up. Linux is the way forwards and sad losers like you are preventing open source from making it big. Your blog is all junk, none of it is honest, and it definitely aint worth reading.
October 11th, 2007
I thought this article as a joke at first. This is definitely a waste of bandwidth. Jonathan, surely you can bring up better points to use Windows? There are a handful of obvious reasons you don't even touch… As for your take on Ubuntu… that part was mediocre at best. I'd agree that it's far from perfect as a desktop OS. But it really doesn't seem like you tried to use it at all. Most of the points baffled me. You didn't seem to take the time (a few minutes?) to learn how certain things work. Because you couldn't figure out a few simple solutions (even for a complete novice), you completely write it off as a OS flaw? I highly doubt you completely understood everything the first time you sat down at a windows pc. There are many reasons to use windows as well as linux. Do you really know any?
Juan Quiceno:
October 18th, 2007
well mr. jhonatan I am affraid that i must disagree with your post(s) and with what you claim is a problem and saying that vista is much better. I am a very new user of linux and I will accept that some of the procedures to do certain things are not as easy as windows. I can say I am very happy with Linux not just because I don't have to pay for it but for the fact that I don't need a super computer to run it smoothly.
Let me tell you the problems I have had with Linux and the ones that I have had with windows.
Cons with Linux:
Installing linux messed up my windows partition once (i learned that backing up files before installing an OS is a smart thing to do :D)
installing certain programs in linux is not an easy task and the codeline requires some reading in order to do things well installing programs in windows is quite easier.
some of the best games I can only play using windows
Cons with windows:
my computer works much slower with windows.
most programs are extremely expensive and the ones wich are free you have to worry about cookies trojans and many more things.
when I installed windows which i paid for about (400.000 COP) about 150 USD I got nothing. all I got was notepad, media player, the same paint from 20 years ago, solitaire and messenger. everything else had to be added seperately and since I had ran out of money buying a very good PC and the windows license I had to go the iilegal way with the other programs.
Needs an Antivirus most which you have to pay for (at least the good ones) and even though I got several viruses.
the more you work the slower your PC becomes.
Windows offers little to no support though I paid fully for a license they tell me go to your local distributor for assistance or they make me talk to some guy from India who speaks very little English
the more programs you have the slower Windows becomes.
most installations and uninstallations require restart.
in conclusion with linux the more I work with it the faster i install and uninstall stuff and learn more about it and how i can improve it myself and It is only a matter of time till I learn to do things faster in linux and learn to work with it. and with windows the more I work with it the more it pisses me off windows never gives me anything but trouble I never see them making a new free program for their users or adding anything noticable since I bought XP all they do is fix their failures over and over again but it doesn't seem to work because I keep on getting viruses and other shit. (windows is a necesary evil (for now))
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October 20th, 2007
"no home user is going to drop to a command line to do something cool and even advanced users hate using command lines (yes, me)."
This entire article has a M$ slant, but this statement takes the cake. Since you have so much experience in Winblows, I'm surprised you've never used DOS (perhaps it was before your time, sonny?).
The command line is a god send. It allows me to do anything that I can do in the GUI, and more. Don't need it in M$ Windows? Well, when some piece of crap software freezes in Winblows (or Winblows itself), usually it's on a splash screen that gives no indication to what's going on, with no options for logging, no verbose mode, etc. If I do the same thing in Ubuntu, I can usually figure out some specific point where it freezes, Google it, and BAM, I have a solution.
XP was much, much slower than Ubuntu on both my laptop and desktop, with Ubuntu, they're both faster, and with Beryl (somehow, I must've done some magical command line voodoo, because it works on two older systems with integrated graphics….and it's still faster than XP was with all visual effects turned off! I'll bet Vista Aero isn't faster than XP with no graphics options. Beryl rules).
XP and Vista are great for grandma who doesn't want to know how to edit xorg.conf from the CLI, or how to implement a script to get networking to work, or edit fstab to mount a particular filesystem at boot, but if you don't want DRM, or don't have $$$ to buy Vista, or don't have the latest, greatest system to run Vista at a decent speed, and know how to use Google, then stick with Ubuntu. Linux was never designed to be a desktop OS, until Ubuntu. It's not perfect, by any means, but it's a LOT better than Linux distros even a few years ago. 95% of my hardware was automatically detected by Ubuntu, the install was faster than XP, and it boots and runs faster than XP. And it hardly uses swap space with only 512 MB of RAM. For some reason, XP thinks it needs to load the entire freakin' kernel into RAM, 'just in case', plus a bunch of other horse crap that is just a waste of resources.
Anyway, Windoze is great in some situations, Ubuntu in others. Personally, I'm not going to shell out several hundred dollars for something with DRM built-in, that's unstable, insecure, and slow. That's another thing…M$ needs to learn to make it default to NOT use a root account, but to make a guest account decent enough to do basic admin tasks (like installing software), like the sudo command in Ubuntu.
Okay, I'm done. Really. Go with Vista if that's your slice of cake, but dont bash on Ubuntu just because you don't know how to use bash.
S Leung:
October 26th, 2007
I disagree with your comment on application compatibility. I have had the disclaimer dialog appear even when I install Microsoft software (Visual Studio 2005 to name one and installing patch and patch is not my idea of fun). Simply bypassing it and hoping for the best is taking a crapshoot. I've had some that XP stuff that works, and others that don't. This is NOT acceptable. Whoever's installing something that is supposed to run on Windows would expect it to work. This point is my biggest gripe with Vista.
Another is UAC, which pops up an annoying confirmation message everytime you want to run something. I know it can be disabled but it requires rebooting the machine.
The aero glass is really something I can do without. Overall, it seems to me that not a lot of development effort was spent on areas that need it.
Sure, there's cons to using both, but right now the cons to using Vista far outweigh those to using Ubuntu.
Honestly, my advice to those who are considering upgrading to Vista: Wait until they get the kinks out – which could be years from now. XP is more than enough for your needs and Vista doesn't offer anything new.
The Angry Offender:
November 6th, 2007
Okay, I've seen enough machines with Vista in my various lines of work and collaboration that I can safely say: Vista is terrible. Here's the ugly hairy truth:
* Windows Vista has nice effects, which is all fine and great if it wasn't for the fact that, in my experience, the majority of visual effects decrease productivity and are nothing more than window dressing. In Windows 98, I killed "smooth scrolling" and "web view in folders." In Windows 2000, I turned off "fading menus." In Windows XP, I turned off all of the above plus "shadows" and "themes." I'll never make it to Vista, and when I optimize a new Vista box for a friend, I find that killing almost every effect that makes Vista pretty DRAMATICALLY enhances the responsiveness and stability of the machine.
* User Account Control. I nicknamed it the NAG BOX. Turn it off? Don't try it, because when I did, Adobe Reader (and some other installers) CRASHED ON BOOT.
* Some programs don't work without installing the MS Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable. The error in the event log? "XYZ could not start because its Side-By-Side configuration is incorrect." Ooh, really bright…why is it that an OS released after 2005 doesn't have the MSVC++ 2005 runtimes installed by default? WTF?
* With everything "stock" on every machine I got my hands on, I deleted a Startup menu item by right-clicking and "Delete." Then, while waiting for the nag box to awaken, I did something else…and Explorer LOCKS UP EVERY TIME. Why? Because the UAC request is pending for the escalated privilege to delete, yet the UAC box itself never got created as a window, so it's waiting for me to respond to a UAC box that never appeared! To hell with that! Shockingly, killing Aero Glass and the other crap effects fixed this problem.
* Seen the benchmarks for gaming on Vista? Vista MURDERS frame rates. If it does that to games, it has to do the same to anything else I want to try, right? Other benchmarks show similar results.
* "TRUSTED COMPUTING." This means DRM, HDCP, and Vista genuineness checks galore. Why in the blazing hell ANYONE would want to use an OS that is SPECIFICALLY GEARED toward restricting what they use their computer for is FAR beyond me. It violates the most basic thing that keeps a business alive: give the CUSTOMER what they WANT!
* The biggest Vista problem? When compared to XP, what is the motivation to move to Vista? What does it bring to the table that the common user would want? I don't see me, a power user who sporadically switches between gaming, watching video, manipulating media, editing web pages, and programming, EVER benefiting from Vista's new "features." 15% of my disk space for System Restore, BitLocker drive encryption, fake glass windows that are loaded with miniature glitches, guaranteed reduced performance across the board in all applications, "ReadyBoost" which is really a crutch to speed up a poorly designed operating system, Windows Mail (can you say Thunderbird? How 'bout Evolution?), and this stupid NETWORK AND SHARING CENTER…the list goes on!
* What's worse is that Microsoft changed around SO MANY THINGS, but it's really only a reorganization of what exists, which means that the user's admin skills on 2000 or XP pretty much don't map to Vista at all! They did the same thing with Office 2007! I can understand how a "ribbon" might be helpful to n00bs or people who never really used the computer for more than Solitaire, but not even making "classic style menus and toolbars" an option is obscene! Some of us are more productive when every command we used to lay out complicated Word documents wasn't changed to a different location, thank you very much!
Here's how I look at it: given the aim of Vista, where MS clearly cares more about restrictions on users than anything else, and comparing that to Linux and BSD, which are deeply rooted in the philosophy of freedom from precisely that kind of control, and given the learning curves required to learn Vista OR Linux/BSD, I'd rather invest my learning curve in the software founded on FREEDOM, not DIGITAL EQUIVALENT SLAVERY.
End rant.
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Chris mankey:
November 18th, 2007
Let's go back to Vista, pop in DVD, grab a soda, maybe order a pizza, oh look, Vista is installed and almost everything works and look, I can download drivers and double click them to install, what a revelation, why are such things lost on the Linux world?"
Gee, I can do that with ubuntu as well. Are you a moron?
"I'm not saying to avoid Ubuntu completely but if you're really expecting that seamless experience, forget about it and I still don't even have Flash player installed so that should say something right there. I shouldn't have to drop to the command line to install Flash player. Now, it's just kind of sitting on a partition and will remain relatively unused, that's space I could have used for movies, music or something more useful."
In the latest ubuntu it offers to install a flash player for you. Maybe you're too stupid to click "Yes" when the dialog box pops up!
James W:
November 21st, 2007
I've worked in IT for my entire working life, starting from the original PCXT. Even CPM was still in use, on Z80 CPU's. Anyway, I've had a love/hate relationship with Microsoft OS's the entire time. I think the best it ever really got was Windows 2000, after that, it all seems to be 'flashy' desktops, but the same old same old.
Now, my new plan, in the face of the Vista rubbish, is to run Ubuntu with VirtualBox in which I can run any M$ os for compatibility, OK not games, but hey this is surely a professional argument here. I installed Ubuntu, everything worked, 3D Gfx, Sound etc. Great, (First time this has ever happened with a Lynux type os), downloaded the VirtualBox package, great, installed it. It said it needed some files/packages, found the installer for that (still no help from outside to this point) and installed them, great. Ran up Virtual Box, found I needed to add my user to the virtualbox group, this was a little hard to find for me, (I simply missed it), but was still all graphical. Ran VirtualBox again, and it all worked perfectly, total time 2Hrs including the mucking arround. Since then the only thing I have had to do from the command line has been some folder properties. I have to say, as a die hard M$ developer of X years etc etc Ubuntu, bearing in mind it's foot print, the quality office software that comes with it, the ease of installation etc etc… BLOODY AWESOME. Message to other M$ users, worried about Vista and the future past XP. Please just TRY ubuntu, give it a proper test, learn the real basics, shouldn't take too much time, and you will at least appreciate what it is, what it brings to the table, then you can go back to Vista and all of those issues, at least knowing you really do know what the alternative is. Oh and to all the Ubuntu devs, thank you, great job. Respect.
James W:
November 21st, 2007
I've worked in IT for my entire working life, starting from the original PCXT. Even CPM was still in use, on Z80 CPU's. Anyway, I've had a love/hate relationship with Microsoft OS's the entire time. I think the best it ever really got was Windows 2000, after that, it all seems to be 'flashy' desktops, but the same old same old.
Now, my new plan, in the face of the Vista rubbish, is to run Ubuntu with VirtualBox in which I can run any M$ os for compatibility, OK not games, but hey this is surely a professional argument here. I installed Ubuntu, everything worked, 3D Gfx, Sound etc. Great, (First time this has ever happened with a Lynux type os), downloaded the VirtualBox package, great, installed it. It said it needed some files/packages, found the installer for that (still no help from outside to this point) and installed them, great. Ran up Virtual Box, found I needed to add my user to the virtualbox group, this was a little hard to find for me, (I simply missed it), but was still all graphical. Ran VirtualBox again, and it all worked perfectly, total time 2Hrs including the mucking arround. Since then the only thing I have had to do from the command line has been some folder properties. I have to say, as a die hard M$ developer of X years etc etc Ubuntu, bearing in mind it's foot print, the quality office software that comes with it, the ease of installation etc etc… BLOODY AWESOME. Message to other M$ users, worried about Vista and the future past XP. Please just TRY ubuntu, give it a proper test, learn the real basics, shouldn't take too much time, and you will at least appreciate what it is, what it brings to the table, then you can go back to Vista and all of those issues, at least knowing you really do know what the alternative is. Oh and to all the Ubuntu devs, thank you, great job. Respect.
December 12th, 2007
well… Linux is not all roses and perfume… I am myself struggling with my Etch (on Powerpc) and my Gutsy (dual boot with XP – Vista really really blows – XP is not that bad…). But I believe that most of the people who are worshipping the dumb empire (M$) is because (like me, wanna make that VERY clear) they don't actually pay the money for that crappy software but they find it somewhere cracked by others. I bought only one software from Microsoft and one from IBM. Both had fun in screwing me backward. I lost my money and threw away the software (which was junk anyway)… never again. I rather have glitches and bugs in my linux than to go through another nightmare like that. Those people are so rooted in their shit that the IBM rep when asked how come I never received my fucking mail-in rebate he blamed it on the postal service post september 11. Unfuckingbelievable. But.. hey… enjoy your viruses, your computer getting slower and slower at every update, a firewall that stalls your connection when you leave the com up all night. After all I do too on those machines I can't afford to get WInXP off (but then again… I didn't pay for it and I never will!!
January 4th, 2008
May I suggest trying out Ubuntu (Gutsy Gibbon) before bashing it? It has even more of the functionality that Ubuntu has always had, plus it's improved upon its GUI. I've set up a laptop and my desktop with Gutsy now, and both are up and running with WiFi, printers, and awesome visual effects with no terminal usage (I honestly don't think I've opened up a terminal on either installs yet. Weird).
As for your experiences with Ubuntu… It seems to me like you tried it once and didn't like the terminal or how it managed your laptop's fan (I've read at least one other article of yours where you bashed Ubuntu but only talked about your laptop and its fan). You're bitter and like to bash things you don't understand or have experience with.
As far as your arguments against Ubuntu… where do we start?
Screen Resolution: Ubuntu 7.10 supports at least 1440×900 out of box. No terminal, not even Synaptic.
Appearance and Effects: Ubuntu 7.10 detects what your hardware can do and utilizes that for some amazing 3D effects. Yes, out of box, no configuration. If you want to customize it then go to the System > Preferences > Appearance option on the menubar and enjoy dragging-and-dropping themes to install, customizing themes, window borders, icon sets, and background settings in one tabbed window. No terminal, no installing anything. Out of box.
Terminal (or, as you call it, "Command line"): According to you doing "simple things" requires the use of a terminal. What the heck do you consider "simple things" to be? Reconfiguring and recompiling your Kernel? Updating to non-public, alpha releases of software? I mean, really…
Installing Apps: Nearly every piece of software is available in the included Add/Remove app. If it's not there, it's downloadable from a website as a '.deb' file (click to install), or available through Synaptic (check to install). Either way, it's easy, and requires no knowledge of commands or even what a Terminal is. If you're having to do a "weird extract" (likely a '.tar' file, which is as simple as a '.zip' extract) and place it in an obscure directory, than It's most likely a less-supported app (in alpha or beta stages) that you're compiling. And if that IS what you want to do, just copy and paste the "long cryptic command" so you don't en up "typing in wrong the first or second time." And if you do mess it up you can just hit the up-arrow, which will show what you just typed, and fix it to match what you want.
Installation: Wow. I like your accurate depiction of a Vista install experience. "…pop in DVD, grab a soda, [...] order a pizza, oh look, Vista is installed and ALMOST everything works and [...] I can DOWNLOAD drivers and double click them to install…" Right. It's accurate to start because you put the DVD in (if you have a DVD drive), grab a pop while the computer tries to boot to it, click around for a few minutes, get the installation process started, call in a pizza for your long night of installation, go back to the computer, guide the installation process some more, wait until the pizza arrives, eat the entire pizza, check on the computer, and voila! It's halfway done. You get the idea. Try describing the Ubuntu installation process accurately too. I think it'd go like this: Pop in the CD, hit enter to boot the Live OS, watch Ubuntu run completely off of a disc, click the install icon on the desktop, click 'OK' a few times, go grab a pop, come back to an installed OS. Sweet. That's pretty seamless.
(Just for kicks) Flash: installs in two clicks in Ubuntu. Not too hard.
(More kicks) Disk usage: Oh, don't go complaining about it taking up disk space… Ubuntu installs to less than 5 GB while Vista enjoys hogging up over 15 GB for itself, which is a lot more space to be used for music, movies, or something more useful.
March 23rd, 2008
I really don;t think you get the point of Ubuntu here… nobodys trying to make it easier for the "home user", it is what it is… its free, if you don't like something then change it. Nobodys trying to force it onto people like microsoft.
Vista just wrote off my parents motherboard after 6 months of use… and the dell engineer said HE USES UBUNTU, cause vista is unstable, insecure, uncompatable and EXPENSIVE
just though I let you know my thoughts
April 3rd, 2008
I'll just say that when an OS tells you there could be a security issue when plugging an standard optical mouse… well, I don't trust that much on it…
I've been a MS user since ages (DOS) and I remember skipping over ME… Vista, at least until a good SP comes out and the software begins to move forward it, won't make it to my hard drive…
Ubuntu on the other hand, came to me, being really skeptical about it as I've used other distros… the main disadvantage these days for me using a linux distro over windows still is the lack of specific software I use for work… but is remarkable the big effort the linux community and ubuntu as part of it have done through these years, to make linux distros easier to users and attract software developers…
that said from a MS user, that will continue to use MS software as long it suits my needs… the day linux cover those needs and give me a better overall value, that day I'll go that way without hesitating.
It's just 1 and 0′s after all ;)…
April 4th, 2008
Hey everyone
Linux is (as you probably know) based on unix systems and unix was created by the military, It is 100 times more secure than windows theres no doubt about that, its not a debatable matter.
IF you know nothing about computers, use vista, by all means, But i tryed vista after XP and it pissed me off so much it gave me a headake all the "Are you sure you want to do this" ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO CREATE A NEW FOLDER? YES I AM!
If you are experianced in computers like myself and alot of other people on this blog then you would use linux, "yeah its tricky to use" but hey, it doesnt get viruses ^^
All the best Tom
I know you'll choose the right OS
April 5th, 2008
Dude, you are so biased against ubuntu, I completely agree with CJ.
Oh, and by the way:
"Aero Glass is pretty, windows fade in and out and there's a glossy transparent look to it"
That's just plainly PATHETIC to what Ubuntu can do, ok?
Please, just be unbiased next time…
J Sparrow:
June 4th, 2008
Who's paying you for writing this article? Oh i guess who.. Is his name Bill? Well, Bill will never make you rich. On the other hand he's already got your money just by testing MS. Iv used Windows since 1993 or so.. i cant remember. But i wish i had of been a supporter of Linux back then.. I was too scared trying it. Now i've heard my calling.. Linux is the way to go. Soon there will be extra program's you can use on every Linux system.. I'm just blown away with the Puppy Wnop effects. If you have cash to throw away then you should support the programmers to make a back window into Linux install. Im new to Linux so i don't know if there is one yet. I hope to soon find one.
June 25th, 2008
You know the reason tutorials use the CLI is because you can just copy and paste the commands. It's less for the author to write and hard for the user to screw up a copy and paste. The reason users hate the CLI is because commands must be very explicit and they assume that you have to be a real expert to even use it which is far from the truth.
Anyway, if you're afraid of the command line you are not an "advanced user".
July 11th, 2008
Ubuntu = free
Vista = $$
Ubuntu = open source (do and code what you will)
Vista = does what Vista wants.
An "advanced" experienced person on a computer should have no problem doing anything on the command line.
M. Ron Smith:
August 5th, 2008
What a load of horse-hockey.
Only two types of people love Vista:
1. Microsoft Stockholders
2. Authors that simply like writing fictions about Vista.
They should have named Vista 'Wista.
"Wista had something else."
August 11th, 2008
Haha Ron you are so funny!
I'm a Developer working on Linux everyday, it's a pile of crap compared to Vista.
I'm fine with it, as an expert, but I still have to waste time babysitting it, configuring it, rebooting from crashes etc
It's classic open source.
August 14th, 2008
Disregard that, I suck cocks.
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September 26th, 2008
"… by and large it [Vista] is one of the best operating systems to date."
Yes Jonathan, and that's why PC manufacturers offer downgrades to XP, that's why Vista has received so much negative press, that's why market share of Apple Macs has doubled since Vista was released, that's why people are migrating to Linux in droves, that's why (senior Microsoft executive) Mike Nash complained that his brand-new laptop with Vista was "nothing more than a $2,100 email machine", that's why people are complaining about system freezes, poor performance, instability, inordinately long boot up and shut down times, sleep and wake up functions not working correctly, incessantly spinning HDDs, UAC being annoying, inability to play (legally obtained) music and movies…
It's patently obvious that you only have two neurons, and that they are not synapsing very well. Perhaps you should consider a field that is less mentally taxing than I.T.
September 30th, 2008
Wow I have to your reasons presented are off base to flat out wrong. I am a MCSE (don't laugh I also have 10 years experience with MS platforms) Vista is hands down near unusable tried for 8 months gave up put Ubuntu on there instead. I wanted to like Vista I really did I even went back after sp1. Still crap. Nothing and I mean nothing works right , file copying , reading DVDs , burning disks , running programs. I have very new hardware and I don't want it sucking up resources either just because they are there I have better uses for them.
This os is so annoying it grinds the hard disk with processes running as "system " that I can't even find out what they are. I shut down in the middle of my working on a project all apps disappear please wait Vista has decided on it own to suddenly update and restart so "F you and your unsaved work user". Then it's security update bluscreens vista and I restore it. Then I disable automatic up dates and the next time I restart they got me with the "shut down and install update button as the defualt shutdown option oh goody BOSD again! restore number 2. Then I tried to type a word document word magically closes poof no erros nothing in the event log that is now hundreds of default errors in dozens of categories that are standard to Vista but nothing related to the crash.
Then back to word (make sure to save every minute just in case and this error about macros keeps poping up not when do anything just with time in a plain word doc. No solution from MS.
Oh well time to blow of steam with a game , install game and direct x causes BOSD. (yes I had the latest nvidia driver).
Between it breaking itself , having an unintuitive interface and popping up windows that demand I stop what I'm doing or raping me disk constantly or barking orders like I'm an idiot (maybe it was starved for attention as it having been 15 minutes since I jumped through some hoop instead of getting work done) then blue screening and it's comical inability to consistently perform the most basic of OS tasks like copy files.
This is tens times better than my last experience with Vista and that's just sad. Aero (which it randomly decided to hide as a theme choice though I have an 8800GT *gigs of ram and a quad core) is weak ..I mean drop shadows and a semi transparent window border oooh that impressive sure beats compiz fusion. Oh wait the built-in GNOME windows have cooler effects you can enable then that and others OS's have had this for years.
So that's try number two and oh file copy speed 300 MB on vista to same SATA drive takes 9 minutes. Ubuntu 6.2GB from one SATA drive to another ATA133 drive takes 2 minutes. If your a windows user and you experience this it seems like freaky magic..oh wait no windows is just bloated. Vista install 40 GB Ubuntu with many apps 2.2 GB. Time it takes me back up Vista to 12 DVDs via their wizard 1.5 hours. Time to back up Ubuntu with Part Image 4 minutes, I had 3 compressed complete system images on one DVD with tons of apps and so luckily had my system back up about 10 minutes after I formated that Joke of an OS Microsoft slapped us across the face with.
As for even expert users hate the command line that's just funny. No I had use the command line in NT based OS's too. Yes I nill of Linux and I had a learning curve but at least I got answers to my questions unlike the mystery vista send MS a report wizard and "tech net oh Vista shrug who know with that thing, try later"
Yeah so I had as much googling to do with Vista to try and turn off thier annoying crap or look in vein for solution to constant errors that were most often the result of an OS patch or "something by design. Oh and they don't allow non Microsoft licensed drivers any more on Vista 64-bit (they pulled the unsigned driver boot mode when found out users not just OEMs and DEVs were using it to run competitors software they had blocked)
My OS would disable my VMware drivers and tell me it was by design decreeing shall use Microsoft virtual PC 2007 instead) Well I decree your OS is a worthless piece of crap and you've lost your mind Microsoft, thinking I paid $300 for you to slap me across the face and try to bend me over.
Welcome Vista to your new home the garbage can on the curb.
NO OS is perfect so it's really pick your poison. Mac OS runs on Hardware costing the price of a good used car and they want $1500 for 4GB or DDR2. (If your dumb enough to buy their RAM) Then you have the same lack of newest major game releases and some apps missing. Ubuntu though has many free alternatives some better than others but many better than the commercial apps and even these may be starting to come around.
Xp is fine for gaming MS didn't release Direct X 10 for XP but surprise Opengl 3.0 has most those nifty Direct X 10 visuals , geometry shaders and the like but runs on XP as well as MAC and Linux.
The MS carrots to keep me on their OS , force me to upgrade and in general just jerk me around have finally gotten to the point of being enough. Their condescending, bloated , buggy and unusable , lame duck, OS for dummies is the last straw.
They clearly though Direct x 10, Aero, and their application monopoly were so compelling that they could simply crap in a paper sack and write windows on it and we'd buy and use it even it's worthless and stinks.
This tangled ball of masochistic code is their 7 year 600 Million dollar OS ? Epic Fail , try again MS or pack it in and go home.
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February 18th, 2009
I have a very good experience with Microsoft Operating Systems (including Servers ISA, Exchange, SQL etc). Microsoft products are not as bad (by far) as the "voice of market" said they are. Vista had its own problems as any young product, but since SP1 has been released it is really stable and I'm talking about production environments here. Also, you shall take into account that the hardware platforms have been changed a lot lately. In the end of 2008 I met hardware platforms which are not compatible with WinXP anymore.
In production environment I met a lot of issues as: compatibility (applications, devices etc), threats (virus – not having an antivirus, spam, phishing, service floods etc.), heavy load (24/24 data process and flow) and so forth. I must say that Microsoft is really focused on this and they provide simple solution.
So, if you want to be productive, Microsoft is the way to go.
On the other hand, I have tested Ubuntu.
From some points of view is great, from others is not (more problems than WinXP has with the new hardware platforms). Don't expect to be similar to Windows. Linux is a completely different universe. You can simple turn it into a Mac OS (using Mac4Lin) and you will have a Linux imitating a Mac OS. It has more effects than any other operating system.
It is free, is stable (based on debian), is updated frequently, provides free products for almost everything. Last, but not least, Linux is for special occasions: if you have an idea like stopping spam, redirect emails, play with DNS, run intelligent websites, databases, having unlimited services on your network or to save money (eliminate license costs or reduce hardware costs) and even much more, Linux is the key and Ubuntu is a delight for the simple reason that it has commands for anything, It knows to do more than you imagine. People with years of Linux experience are still discovering new tools and features in Linux.
Sport cars are not for everyone: all of us want to have one, but not all can drive it.
October 19th, 2009
An "advanced" experienced person on a computer should have no problem doing anything on the command line.
Totally agree with this guy. Command line it's not for advanced users, command line it's simply showing how the "ugly thing you claim to own (your computer)" really works.
This whole article explain simply how much "common user" you are.
Windows and Linux are really different worlds. The difference it's like having a journey in train or in a car.
You jump on the train and the train will carry you around. Simply and fast. But you have no limited choice where to and no choice when, and how. And any service you need aboard, it will potentially cost you money.
That's Vista. Oh, and if the line is broken, you will most likely have to choose another train or go back from the start (on your feet or asking for a lift).
Take off the train, get YOUR FREE car and drive it anywhere, anytime, in anyway you want. Open it, watch the engine how it's working, adapt and customize EVRYTHING at your flavour…
Yes it will be harder at first, to learn how to drive a car, and to learn how to modify it for your own purposes. But you will learn how and you will REALLY MAKE THE WHOLE THING YOUR.
This is Ubuntu/Linux.
Oh and there will be always another road where to choose if you just need, with no need to change car nor to turn it off…
October 31st, 2010
What a frickin' idiot.
Another windows dipstick putting down Linux on a web server running Linux.
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June 21st, 2011
Well we are on 2011 the facts have proven that this article was wrong.
Ubuntu has bring a lot of changes to the consumer market.


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Those with Internet access can apply online at www.DisasterAssistance.gov. Somerset County residents may also register by calling FEMA at 1-800-621-3362. FEMA plans to have community relations specialists going door-to-door in the county assisting people with the application. For those who are not home when FEMA arrives, a yellow flyer will be left at the door with instructions on how to begin the application process.
People who live in Crisfield, one of the areas hardest hit by Sandy, are thrilled by the news. Hazel Cropper of Crisfield said she had two feet of water come into her home during the storm. Cropper said she prayed for the residents of Somerset County when FEMA aid was originally denied about two weeks ago. Now, her prayers have been answered.
"I thank God for it because I think the whole community needed some help from FEMA," Cropper said. "So that is all I can say. I just thank God."
Joe Snively and his group of volunteers, called "Carpenter's Hands," have been in Crisfield the past few weekends assisting in the rebuilding process. They have seen first-hand how bad the damage is, and how upset people originally were when aid was denied. Now, they couldn't be happier for the community.
"Oh my gosh, it's awesome," Snively exclaimed. "We had dinner with some of the folks in town the other night and it was a relief. They announced it at dinner that FEMA was going to help them and there was a standing applause."
FEMA officials said a Disaster Recovery Center will be opened in Crisfield in the coming days where people can go to have their questions answered. However, everyone's first step should be registering for help.
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The Navy's plan to produce a future fleet of 313 ships is getting panned on Capitol Hill.
Almost lost in the debate over financing and shipbuilding schedules is a more fundamental question that goes largely unaddressed: What is the rationale for 313 ships, and what kind of fleet does the Navy need in the 21st century?
That question — so pivotal to the fortunes of shipbuilders like Northrop Grumman Newport News — remains unanswered, in the view of many defense analysts.
Perhaps surprisingly, the Navy at times has appeared uncomfortable discussing its vision of a future fleet and its ideal size.
Navy officials have described the 313-ship total as the minimum number of ships required to confront potential threats in 2020.
But when pressed to give an estimate of the optimal number of ships that the modern Navy should possess, Navy leaders politely decline.
"We're doing some work to see what that might be," Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, told reporters this year.
The uncertainty over naval requirements has frustrated lawmakers and analysts, who worry that the public case for a robust shipbuilding program suffers from a lack of clarity and conviction.
"The Navy has not done a capable job of explaining why it wants 313 ships or how it intends to get to that goal," said Loren Thompson, a prominent analyst at the Lexington Institute who has close ties to Pentagon officials. "There's a lot of disagreement right now about whether the fleet we're buying has any relevance to the future."
By most accounts, today's fleet — the smallest in a century — is too small for comfort.
Navy officials say all critical missions around the globe are being met. But combatant commanders have also requested more ships than are available at times, particularly in the case of attack submarines.
Some lower-priority intelligence and surveillance missions have had to be ignored, commanders have reported, because of a lack of subs.
"There's always a higher demand for presence than we have in theater" or available in any given region, said Vice Adm. Barry McCullough, deputy chief of naval operations for integration of capabilities and resources.
Many lawmakers who oversee Navy matters say they fear that even 313 ships will leave the future fleet strained to confront all the threats it might face in the global war on terrorism.
"I believe the number should be substantially higher," said Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va. and a former Navy secretary who quit his Pentagon post in 1988 to protest a downsizing of the fleet.
But how big is big enough?
No one argues that the Navy needs to return to President Ronald Reagan's vision of a 600-ship fleet. Advances in technology have made today's ships far more capable than their predecessors of a generation ago.


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Hi! Look forward to socializing with this group!
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Hi Roman. Nice to see you here.
Hello Roman, I hope you enjoyed the health presentation today with Igor. Have you been enjoying Mad About Movies? I went to three films with the group since Xmas day.
Hi Roman,
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There are worthy rants and there are unworthy rants. And then there's whatever Colorado news anchor Kyle Clark was doing during yesterday's 4 PM newscast.
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If you know anyone who might be interested in adopting the dog on the left (the lighter colored cattle dog mix) please let me know. That is Princess and I want to make sure she goes into a good home. You can send me an ask or email me at email@example.com.
She would do best in a home without other pets and probably without kids.
She is a little stand-offish sometimes at first but within a couple of weeks is very affectionate and cuddly, she likes to curl up on the couch under a blanket. At night before bed she also likes to be covered up. She is very clever and a good squirrel hunter. She is also a very funny dog with many antics that she does, including little dances for treats and games.
We estimate that she is about 7-8 years old, possible cattle dog/corgi mix. She has cute rounded bear ears. She takes a daily arthritis medication which we are willing to help with financially if it means she gets into a good home. She is very spry and active, not what one might consider to be a "senior" dog.
She is at the Longmont Humane Society in Longmont, CO. Please share this with anyone you know who might want an awesome dog.
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"Shit Cyclists Say"
Looks like it was shot in Boulder. Of course.
I'm not sure how many of you are fond of these parody videos, but yeah. I'll be back to make some posts maybe later tonight or tomorrow.
Boulder Colorado summed up in one video
^^^^^^^^^^ Just Colorado in general to me, ffffff
Not only was this filmed in Boulder; I know exactly where they filmed each scene.
Oh, cyclists.
The number of times you have almost killed me by not sharing the road while going 2 miles an hour on a blind curve cliff edge in the mountains where I need to pass you at 30 mph while oncoming traffic is going 60 mph because they're psycho mountain people… is immeasurable.
^AR%^A%^&YA Really, Ix? Oh gawd. and I've had those scares in my driving courses as well… Psycho mountain people.
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COLUMBIA CITY ŌĆö Marjorie M. Judd, 79, of Columbia City, passed away at 1:13 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 15, 2012, at Parkview Whitley Hospital, Columbia City.
Born March 15, 1932, in Noble County, she was the daughter of Chris H. and Dorothy B. (Ringler) Lehman.
She lived in Noble County until the age of nine, moving with her family to Whitley County where she attended Columbia City High School.
On July 16, 1949, she married Dale E. Judd in Columbia City.
Lawrence Richard ŌĆ£DickŌĆØ Schwartz, 85, of Fort Wayne, passed away Sunday, Jan. 15, 2012, at Riverbend Health Care.
He was born March 5, 1926, in Fort Wayne to the late James and Estella (Myer) Schwartz.
Mr. Schwartz retired from Phelps Dodge as superintendent of maintenance in 1985.
He was a member of Mt. Calvary Lutheran Church, American Legion #241, and the VFW after serving in the Army during World War II.
Nellie R. Boyer, 95, of Little Cedar Lake, died at 4:30 p.m. Monday, Jan. 16, 2012, at her home.
She was born July 26, 1916, in Huntington County, a daughter of Frank and Grace (Plasterer) Pasko.
Her formative years were spent in Union Township, Huntington County. She graduated from Union Township High School.
On Nov. 9, 1935, she was united in marriage to Roger B. Boyer. They made their home on the Eckman Farm in Rock Creek Township, Huntington County until 1945 when they moved to a farm in Lancaster Township.
Richard D. ŌĆ£DickŌĆØ Mitchell, 81, of Warsaw, died at 8:10 a.m. Monday, Jan. 16, 2012, at his residence.
He was born Nov. 8, 1930, in El Paso, Texas to Oda E. & Zola Iva (Reeg) Mitchell.
He was a U.S. Marine veteran and was married Feb. 14, 1981, in Warsaw to Sue Ann (Donnelly) Ray who survives.
Cathy Broxon-Ball, director of Whitley County Environment Management and Homeland Security prepares for the 2012 annual weather spotter training session in the spotterŌĆÖs room at the Whitley County Homeland Security office. Broxon-Ball calls out to anyone who would like to become a ŌĆ£weather spotter.ŌĆØ
The 2012 annual weather spotter training will begin at 6:30 p.m. Feb. 6 at the Whitley County Government Center basement training room. The class is two hours long and free of charge. Door prizes are planned.
Last year, 138 spotters were trained by the a member of the National Weather Service.
HUNTINGTON ŌĆö Austin Paul, former Huntington North hoopster, joined Columbia CityŌĆÖs basketball squad this season as a senior and a starter.
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CHURUBUSCO ŌĆö The IHSAA Class 2A Churubusco BoysŌĆÖ basketball team stepped up a class Tuesday night when they played host to the 3A Leo Lions.
The schoolsŌĆÖ enrollments werenŌĆÖt the only difference, as the Lions came into the contest with a high-powered offense averaging over 84 points-per-contest, while the Eagles were scoring slightly under 47 points-per-game.
The sharp contrast continued on the defensive side as the Eagles came into the game giving up just under 43 points each game, while the Lions were surrendering over 79 points-per-contest.
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) ŌĆö Jim Caldwell endured everything thrown at him during his first two seasons as the Colts' coach -- replacing a friend, rebounding from losses and fighting through injuries.
Not having Peyton Manning around in 2011 was just too much.
Caldwell was fired Tuesday, a little more than two weeks after the Colts' worst season in two decades.
"This is obviously a big transitional time for us, but I know we're excited moving forward and it's hard when you say goodbyes to some people," team owner Jim Irsay said. "But it's part of the business."
COLUMBIA CITY ŌĆō While state legislators are considering a bill that would give Indiana homeowners limited rights to resist police officers trying to enter their homes, local citizens are trying to voice their opinion on the subject.
The Whitley County Patriots had planned to demonstrate near Parkview Whitley Hospital today in opposition of Indiana Supreme Court Justice Steve David, who was scheduled to address the Columbia City Rotary Club.
The Patriots announced their plans over the weekend. The meeting was moved to an alternate location.
Whitley County awoke Tuesday morning to a hodge-podge of spring weather in mid-January.
Mid-50 degree temperatures, thunderstorms and heavy rain passed through the area with possible fog to follow. Temps are to drop throughout the day.
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BENTON COUNTY, WA - People in Benton County have the chance this week to possibly influence their future utility bills.
Benton PUD will hold the first of three public "round table" meetings in Prosser Tuesday night, November 12th.
Members of the community can talk with the PUD about several different issues, including distributed generation and solar power, the Energy Independence Act and energy efficiency, as well as broadband services.
Benton PUD Communications Manager, Karen Miller says the public input from the meetings will help the Utility decide how to address these issues in the future.
"As we go forward on these strategic plan issues," Miller said, "there's a lot that impacts the utility, which impacts our customers, so we really appreciate having our customers give us input on how we're doing and their thoughts on these issues."
The first meeting Tuesday night is from 5:30 PM to 7:00 PM at the Benton PUD Auditorium in Prosser.
The final two meetings will be at the Benton PUD Auditorium in Kennewick on Monday, November 18th from 5:30 PM to 7:00 PM, and Tuesday, November 19th from 8:00 AM to 9:30 AM.
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Commitment is one of those rather frightening words. It asks of us fidelity and perseverance in Gods service. The book of Ecclesiasticus tells us that serving the Lord will involve hardship. Jesus says the same to his followers who miss the significance of the death he is prophesying. It is about being small, about being the servant of all, about abandoning oneself to the Father.
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Oklahoma City Thunder coach Scott Brooks says he hopes to meet with team chairman Clay Bennett and general manager Sam Presti in ''the next couple of days'' to discuss a new contract. Brooks pointed out Saturday that no one has had down time since training camp started in early December, following the lockout that condensed the season. Brooks' deal is set to expire at the end of the month, and time has run out quickly with the Thunder making it all the way to the NBA Finals before losing to the Miami Heat in five games. Under Brooks, the Thunder have improved every season. They won 23 games their first season in Oklahoma City, lost in the first round of the playoffs the next year and then were defeated in the Western Conference finals.
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Detectives said a Crime Stoppers tip led to an investigation that resulted in several drug arrests this week.
The Ascension Parish Sheriff's Office said the following suspects were arrested:
Christopher Washburn, 27, of St. Amant
Bonnie Hebert, 51, St. Amant
Dayne Poirrie, 22, of Gonzales
Kimberly Roddy, 27, of Prairieville
Dayla Sappington, 26, of St. Amant
Narcotics detectives reported the tipster claimed Washburn was selling drugs in the St. Amant area and had several outstanding arrest warrants. They said they began an investigation into the accusations and learned Washburn was living with Hebert in St. Amant.
According to investigators, Hebert was found at a neighbor's house and she confirmed Washburn was at her home. Deputies said when they searched the home they found Washburn hiding in a closet and Sappington was also inside the house. They added a meth lab, nearly five grams of meth, Xanax pills, cocaine, synthetic marijuana, crack pipes and scales were also discovered in the home.
Detectives said while they were still searching the home for evidence, a car with Poirrie and Roddy inside pulled into the driveway. They reported Poirrier had heroin and Sudafed on him. They added the pair admitted they were bringing Sudafed to Washburn to cook meth.
Washburn was booked on the following charges:
Creation of a clandestine lab
Possession of synthetic cannabinoid
Possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine
Possession of drug paraphernalia
Possession of Xanax
Possession of firearm by convicted felon
Aggravated battery
Improper telephone communications
Hebert faces the following charges:
Possession of cocaine
Traffic bench warrant
Poirrier is charged with:
Possession of heroin
Possession with intent to distribute pseudoephedrine
Roddy is charged with possession of pseudoephedrine and creation of a clandestine lab.
Sappington was booked on the following charges:
All of the suspects were booked into the Ascension Parish Jail and are awaiting bond.
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