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I am joined once again, by our creator, Eric (gearhead), our resident statistician, Scott, and another passionate fan, Jen (JenX63). The four of us will try to answer some questions I figure some of you might have about the new car and the coming events.
Without further ado, let's get started.
1. If you watched the Sprint Unlimited, what did you think? Did we see enough to really judge the new car?
Jen: I watched and really did not get any notions one way or the other. I think I need to see the cars on all the different tracks. Did anyone else notice the bumpers no longer match up, with the manufacturers getting their little stamps, I noticed it during the shoot out.
Eric: I can't say that I did watch the race. I will say as a general comment on the new car that it's probably a good thing. When your series is for all intents and purposes spec, you have to keep evolving the car you use. Whatever the reasons the Car of Tomorrow was replaced, new car designs every five years ago is usually a good thing. Go much longer than that with one car and it gets old and stale. That is what happened with IndyCar, and why its fans were so happy to see the DW12.
Scott: I watched bits and pieces of it while I was bartending and to be honest, I wasn't a huge fan. The drivers seemed a bit too tenative in trying to figure out the combination of Gen 6, a clean track and the cooler weather and more times then not, it was nothing but single file racing with not many drivers taking any chances to pass.
Debi: I have to agree with you, Scott. They did seem really tentative to me as well. In fact, Tony caused the early wreck, and owned up to it, but it did seem like he was the only one driving "normally", rather than the "aggressively" that others thought.
Eric: Before I answer this, can someone help me out and explain what kind of blind spot we're talking about? Either way, that doesn't sound very good.
Debi: LOL Okay, Eric. The first I'd heard of it was after the incident with Matt Kenseth. Apparently, somewhere in his interviews after the fact, it was said that he hadn't seen anything, and he thought there must be some kind of blind spot. I don't know if it was a cop out, or an excuse, or what, but I saw it a few times.
Scott: I'm with Eric on this one. What blind spot are we exactly talking about?
Debi: *sigh* okay guys, I guess it is just a figment of their imagination. I did read that Kevin Harvick was wanting to have some customized mirrors installed in his car though, and have them approved before the 500.
Eric: Well, whatever it is, it sounds like it'll be up to the spotters to earn their money.
Jen: Dillner said there really isn't a blind spot (which i think is stupid to say) because every vehicle has them and in racing, exactly what are the spotters duties? To inform about cautions, side by side if their driver wants to move up or down the track (blind spot), accidents ahead of them. I have looked at both cars (this years and last years) and saw a minute difference. I don't think the drivers have "more" clearance, but I could be wrong. I am not in a car. Tony was just being aggressive, but thought he could parlay Kenseth's boo boo to help his cause. Watching Matt since he was in Nationwide, it just isn't his style to intentionally wreck another driver. Matt and his spotter are new to each other, there are going to be hiccups, hopefully not bad ones.
3. It's early going, of course, but Jeff Gordon and Carl Edwards were both knocked out in the first segment wreck of the Unlimited. Is this a glimpse of their season? Or can either one of them rebound after both had such a crappy season last year?
Scott: I expect Jeff Gordon to be a bit more competitive this season. As for Carl Edwards, I'm anxious to see how the whole Ford stable does now the Matt Kenseth has moved on to Joe Gibbs Racing. I always thought Kenseth was the "brains" of the outfit and with him gone, Edwards and Greg Biffle will Ricky Stenhouse as the 3rd wheel. It should be an interesting year for Jack Roush.
Eric: Plate racing is so much different than everything else that I don't particularly put much stock in how it fortells the rest of the season, especially a race that doesn't actually count for anything. Gordon seemed fine putting it on the front row Sunday afternoon.
Jen: lol, ok, not funny really...nope, actually need a few more races, you know, like 15 at least.
Debi: I like to think you can actually tell as soon as they hit the track at Daytona, but I have to go with Scott, again. I am happy to see Jeff walking with a little more bounce to his step this year. As for Edwards, I think he had a peak season a couple of years ago when he fought neck and neck with Tony Stewart. It almost seems as if that second place finish defeated him a little.
Jen: Who? Really don't see her beating Jr anytime soon.
Eric: After 7 years of Danica-mania, I'm quite used to it. Have fun guys. She's all yours. ;)
Debi: OMG! I was sick of her as soon as they announced she was moving to Cup full time. I really wish she would take lessons from some of the humble drivers and stay away from the arrogant whiners! My mute button is going to get a lot of use this year. I`m just not sure who is forcefeeding us, the media or NASCAR!
Eric: Both.
Scott: Seeing as I am a firm believer in conspiracy theories, I'm not the least bit shocked that Danica won the pole for the race. It gives NASCAR a bigger boost heading into their biggest race and should draw more fans to watch. That said, I still think she finishes closer to the back of the field then the front when the race comes to the end
Debi: LOL the Black Helicopters are circling!! I predicted she`d finish last!!
Debi: I know this question was already kind of asked in the first question, but the Duels are their own kind of race. Most of the drivers are already in the field and are trying only to improve their starting position. There are a few, I think who may not be in the big race if they don`t finish well in the Duels though.
Scott: Because the bumpers of the respective cars aren't aligned the same, I expect quite a few guys and gals to get out of sorts in not only the duels but the race itself. Tandem racing seems to be a thing of the past and in it's place comes pack racing, which never seems to end well for a handful of drivers. Throw in the uncertainty of what the new car brings for a 500 mile race and you have a recipe for quite a bit of carnage this weekend at Daytona.
Eric: It seems like every year there's a different wrinkle in the draft at Daytona. From this description, it sounds like the lead isn't going to be the place to be on the last lap.
Debi: Is the lead ever the place you want to be on the last lap
Eric: Seems like it wasn't a problem last year. Can't say for sure other years. This isn't the 500 mile race I obsess over. ;)
Debi: You never want to be the leader on the last lap at Daytona, especially if Kevin Harvick is anywhere behind you. He is the king of "Where'd he come from?"
Jen: Nope they didn't. Nope they won't. Might make for a safer/slower 500....
Jen: To be a lot like the shoot out.....some bumping, a wreck or two...maybe not. It's the unexpected that makes me watch, even though I think they are redundant.
Scott: I don't expect anything too crazy for the duels. I expect a handful of drivers to try and make their way to the front to see which moves work and don't work but I really don't think anybody is going to completely show their hand to the rest of the field. We've already established that it doesn't matter where you qualify for this race so IMO, there is no difference if you finish towards the front or in the back.
Debi: I just expect to be entertained. I never expect anything of the Duels except fun. I just enjoy them to enjoy racing, not for any outcome or another, honestly. Entertain me is all I ask.
Eric: With the top 35 rule gone, as I understand it, I would expect a hard fought race, as most of the field actually has to race their way in this time. Before the top 35 crap, I always liked the Daytona qualifying process and how different it was. Big races should have special qualifying procedures, and who can argue with having to race their way in? I'm glad to see it's at least somewhat back to the way it used to be.
Aha Eric, so that brings us to a bonus question! What do you think of the new qualifying format? Is it good, bad or indifferent? I posted a link (somewhere) which states that the fastest 36 get in, no matter who they are. Then next 6 are the top in the points by OWNER, and the last is the past champion. IF there is no past champion trying to qualify, there is one more spot for the top in points by owner. Good? Bad?
Eric: I think I already basically answered in an earlier question, but it's an improvement solely because the top 35 rule is gone. Strip out all the stuff about who is locked in after pole qualifying and it's basically how it was when I was a kid: Front row set in pole qualifying, rows 2-16 from the Duels, then a few more on speed, then the provisionals. It's a little convoluted, but a big race should have special qualifying procedures. I've always liked how you can race your way in. In the end, despite all the consternation, only 2 are going to be sent home anyway (one almost certainly Brian Keslowski), so might as well have some fun with it.
Jen: I am glad they changed the format of getting in. I would love if they threw out the rule for the last 7 spots. Make it a race in or you don't race. I think saving those spots for 'owner points", and "past Champions" should be done away with, especially in the case of those teams that are well financed. I could write a whole book on this, I have very strong feelings about it, but, I think you get what I am saying.
Debi: I have never, ever been in favor of the top 35 rule. Never. I am so happy they have gone to this format. I don't think those 7 spots will come into play most races. I think the Champion's provisional will only be used by Terry Labonte for the few races he chooses to race in. The only time the provisional 6 should come into play would be if one of the front runners crashes in qualifying, and I think that's what it is there for - to protect those drivers in the hunt for the Chase who have a major sponsor they need to keep happy.
Well, that's our discussion for this week. In the news, we report that Dale Jr. blew the engine on his car in the first practice today. His crew has replaced the engine and he has gone back out on the track, but he will start at the back for tomorrow's Duel. Mark Martin's car also sustained some damage, and as we publish, they are still working on the car, having made repairs with Bondo. Ryan Newman and Carl Edwards got together in that incident and once again, Mark was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
And I'd just like to take a moment to applaud Michael Waltrip and his team. The car you see pictured above is racing in honor of the 26 people who lost their lives in the Newton tragedy. I'll have more on that when we run the Duels tomorrow, but Michael continues to inspire me. He really is a beautiful person, goofy exterior and all.
Join in with us, and let us know what you think. Are we all completely delusional or do our thoughts have some merit? We want to hear what you have to say, too. After all, this is a Round Table discussion.


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During the first season Santana bullies Kurt, as she does with most of the New Directions at the time, but they appear to have developed a friendship in the second half of Season Two and all of Season Three, and have gotten much closer when Santana became one of his roommates in Season Four.
During the first three seasons, Santana and Kurt didn't have a lot of interaction, especially during the first season, in which Santana would usually comment on Kurt's sexuality or make some other rude remark, though she does go with everyone else to defend Kurt from Karofsky and Azimio in Theatricality. However, they became much closer during season four. In earlier episodes, they were both part of the Cheerios in Season One. In Season Two, Santana is seen upset when Kurt says he's transferring to Dalton Academy, and was concerned over the competition, but she was happy when he returned. She is seen defending Kurt and Blaine from Karofsky in A Night of Neglect. Just after Somewhere Only We Know, she is heard saying "We love you" to Kurt when everyone is hugging him, showing her affection for him. He is also seen helping Santana pick out her dress for prom in Prom Queen. In Season Three, Santana has been seen with Kurt and some of the other New Directions in The Lima Bean and she is seen talking with Kurt in Michael. Kurt and Santana are then further bonded by their hatred of Sebastian, as Sebastian continues to manipulate various members of New Directions, especially Kurt, to get to Blaine, to make sure New Directions doesn't win, and uses their good ideas to triumph at Regionals. In the fourth season, they have become even closer, as Santana moves in with Kurt and Rachel. Santana even goes so far as to say that Kurt and Rachel are her family, which shows definite development in the relationship between Kurt and Santana since Season One and even Two and Three.
Santana and Quinn try to convince Mercedes that Kurt has a crush on her, and that she should ask him out. They both know that he is gay despite his efforts to stay in the closet, but Mercedes is oblivious to his sexuality. Santana and Quinn convince her to ask him out because they think it might stir up trouble in the Glee Club, when he rejects her. (Acafellas)
Santana and Kurt appear alongside Mercedes and Brittany in Sue's remake video of Vogue. Later, Sue proposes that Kurt and Mercedes join The Cheerios because she wants to add music and athleticism. When they agreed that this would give them more opportunity, Kurt and Mercedes performed 4 Minutes with Santana, Brittany, and the remaining Cheerios. (The Power of Madonna)
Both of them dress up in Lady Gaga outfits and perform together in Bad Romance with the New Directions girls. When Kurt gets harassed severely by Azimio and Karofsky, all the members of the club, including Santana, rally behind him in support. (Theatricality)
When Kurt announces to Will and New Directions that there has been a growing popularity for the club to sing Britney Spears, most of the club seems to support that idea, including Santana. However, when Brittany says that she feels like her identity is stolen, Kurt questions her logic, making Santana speak up to defend Brittany. Later, with Brittany's approval, Kurt tries to make Will re-consider doing Britney. When Will turns him down aggressively, Kurt explodes. After his outburst, Santana gives a look of shock, yet satisfaction. (Britney/Brittany)
Santana openly acknowledges and expresses condolences over hearing the news about Kurt's father's comatose state, and is beside Brittany when she gives him his report she did on heart attacks in crayon. They are also seen beside and touching each other during One of Us. (Grilled Cheesus)
During the competition, Santana pairs with Mercedes to perform River Deep, Mountain High. After that, Kurt is seen in the background giving a massive applause while making a giant circle. After Kurt drops Sam as a duet partner, Kurt decides to perform a solo piece for the competition where it is meant to embrace both sides, and that sometimes you'll always be alone when you're different. Santana comes back saying that this is just "vocal masturbation," but Kurt replies pointing directly to Santana saying "watch and learn." He then performs Le Jazz Hot in the auditorium, where he receives a standing ovation from all the members, including Santana. (Duets)
When Kurt didn't want to play Dr. Frank-n-Furter because of the fishnets and lipstick, Santana quickly made a slight jab by asking whether those were out of style. (The Rocky Horror Glee Show)
Kurt and Santana are seen dancing together and laughing with each other during Holly Holliday's Forget You rendition. (The Substitute)
Santana, along with the other members of The New Directions, were all involved in the wedding of Burt and Carole. Santana was also upset when Kurt admitted that he was leaving McKinley and transferring to Dalton when Karofsky was allowed back to school. (Furt)
When both Blaine and Kurt come out to support New Directions, they encounter Karofsky and an argument starts. Santana notices this and intervenes by defending Blaine and Kurt, and insulting Karofsky. (A Night of Neglect)Wanting to win the title of Prom Queen badly, Santana realized that the best way to do that was to win the battle between Karofsky and Kurt, and get Kurt to transfer back to McKinley again. She threatens to tell the whole school about Karofsky's sexuality, unless he promises to make amends with both Kurt and New Directions. She and Dave also form The Bully Whips, a club designed to protect students from bullies. By achieving this, Kurt comes back to the school and joins Glee Club, a sight that Santana is happy to see. Kurt sings As If We Never Said Goodbye to the club to represent how he has missed all of them very much, and in the end, receives a standing ovation from the group. She is also seen in the flash mob dance to Barbra Streisand after Kurt tricks Rachel to come to the mall and talk about her insecurities. (Born This Way)
Some of the female members of New Directions, including Santana are trying on dresses for prom, and Kurt is brought along because he has such a strong approval rating. After showing her red dress, Santana pulls Kurt aside for a small talk about what was supposed to be about fashion turned into protection for him and Blaine at the prom, which Kurt didn't seem to agree that they needed. At the prom, Dave was crowned prom king and Kurt was crowned prom queen in a write in ballot, which humiliated him, causing him to run crying. This also caused Santana to have the same reaction, but for feeling humiliated over having her date winning and not her. Brittany, there to console her, tells her that she needs to stay strong for Kurt, because at this time, he needs it more than ever. When Kurt accepts the crown to prove he's not afraid, Santana and Mercedes join together to perform Dancing Queen for the King and Queen. (Prom Queen)
When Jesse St. James returns, he insists that to win Nationals, New Directions needs to have a strong soloist, and that members of the club should audition, with Mr. Schuester and Jesse being the judges. Kurt and Santana take this opportunity to compete for that spot, along with Mercedes and Rachel. At the auditions, Santana sings Back to Black and Kurt sings Some People, both receiving critical comments by Jesse. Although they both agree that "Jesse St. James totally Jesse St. Sucks," there are series of backtalk about each other, all confident that they were better. In the end, Will claims that there is no winner and no solo song for the competition and that all four compliment one another. They also both participated at Jean's funeral and sing Pure Imagination. (Funeral)
Although most likely as a favor to Brittany, Santana helps Kurt with his campaign for class president by placing posters that Brittany made around the school hallways. (Asian F)
After the dodgeball game of New Directions versus The Troubletones, Santana and The Troubletones gang up against Rory by bombarding him with dodgeballs, which gives him a bloody nose. Kurt and Finn step in to help Rory, and Kurt tells them at they're acting like bullies. This event helps Kurt create a platform for his candidacy for Class President by banning dodgeball at McKinley. (Mash Off)
To help Santana embrace her sexuality, Kurt and Blaine perform Perfect to her. However, in the end, she dismisses the performance. They also sing together in Constant Craving, a song that represents strength - Santana about her sexuality, Kurt about his loss for Class President and his NYADA application. ('I Kissed A Girl)
Santana and Kurt, along with Artie, Blaine and Rachel meet at The Lima Bean, where Sebastian overhears them talking about performing Michael at Regionals and starts the rivalry by "stealing" the New Directions' idea. Later during Bad, Sebastian slushies Blaine with rock salt, although originally intended for Kurt. Kurt announces to the club that Blaine's cornea is scratched and will need surgery, which fuels everyone's want for revenge. Santana walks past a classroom to find Kurt writing into a notebook. He tells her that he agrees with what Artie said about being the victims, and has accepted torment from many other people, but refuses to take it from Sebastian. He shows her a list of ways he has to get back at him. Kurt says that after what he did to Blaine, he really wanted to hurt him, but he can't. Santana says that she agrees that they can't hurt him, but says that they will beat him, saying she'll bring back her angry side, Snixx. Later, she goes to Dalton Academy and has a sing off with Sebastian. They both sing Smooth Criminal. Santana, desperate to get revenge on Sebastian for Kurt, pushes Sebastian to answer what he put in the slushie. He says he put rocksalt in the slushie that hit Blaine before he slushies Santana.Santana hurries New Directions into the Choir room before Mr. Schue will notice and tells them what she found out and that she recorded Sebastian's confession and that they should give the recording to the police. Kurt then tells her that they can't give do it as he may get kicked out of school, and that they don't have time to go after haters, just like Michael. He tells the group that he has an idea to teach them a lesson, which everyone is open for; although Santana is still upset she went through all that work for Kurt to reject her plan. They invite The Warblers to the auditorium, where Kurt, Santana, and That New Directions perform Black or White; to show them what Michael is all about. During the number, all the Warblers, expect for Sebastian, get up and dance with the New Directions. At the end, Santana tells Sebastian that she could call the cops or his headmaster and have him kicked out of school and possibly arrested for what he did to Blaine. She pulls out the tape of him admitting to tampering with the slushie, and Kurt gives him the tape telling him, that him not being at Regionals will ruin the joy of beating him. (Michael)
During Kurt's final song, I'll Remember, Santana sings along with him and the rest of New Directions. Later, during Santana's reflection about her talent, she considers herself just as talented as "Lady Hummel." Santana and Kurt are also hanging out together in the halls with Mercedes and Mike, talking and laughing when Quinn walks by - and both wave - during her look-back at McKinley. They are also standing beside each other during the graduation ceremony, in which, Santana, Kurt, Mercedes, Mike, Quinn, Puck, Finn and Rachel graduate and receive their diplomas. At the end of the episode, Kurt and Santana along with the rest of New Directions (including Will and Emma) say goodbye to Rachel as they send her off on her way to New York. (Goodbye)
While doing with laundry with Brittany, Santana talks to her about Kurt's new job in New York at Vogue.com saying, "I mean, I'm not jealous, I just think that it's insane that all Porcelain had to do to get an internship with Vogue.com was take photos of every ridiculous outfit he's ever paired with a Cossack hat and a see-through raincoat and then show up at an interview where he is lauded as a visionary because his jodhpurs happened to match his riding crop". (The Break-Up)
Before their interaction in Diva, Brittany gives Santana tips to move on with new people like Kurt and Rachel did in New York, inspiring her to decide upon her next move. Santana decides to move to New York and knocks on the door of Kurt and Rachel's apartment. Kurt opens the door and both he and Rachel are surprised and shocked to see Santana there. When he asks what she's doing here, she walks in and announces that she's moving in. (Diva)
It's a snow day in New York and Santana and Kurt are stranded inside their apartment with Rachel and Adam. Santana admits in a voice over that she is getting a bit crazy being stuck in that room with a bunch of musical theater queens, and then listens to Kurt try to talk in a British accent. She then starts asking questions about Adam's background, but then starts getting curious about the situation between Adam and Kurt. She mentions the wedding, and how he and Blaine really went at it together, and immediately shuts her down. He also mentions that they are letting him stay with them rent-free. Santana then starts attacking Rachel's weight and she explodes. Kurt tries to calm them down and asks Santana if she's chosen a DVD from their collection. She does, and from the three she picked, singles out "Rosemary's Baby" as Kurt's. Kurt suggests they watch "Moulin Rouge," and while everyone else is game, Santana gives him her classic "are you serious" look.During the movie, Kurt goes into a fantasy dream with him and Blaine on the roof in a romantic setting singing Come What May. From this, Kurt starts to cry. Everyone then starts to notice as he tries to pass it off that they're from his non-existent contacts. However, Santana calls him out, asking/implying that the real reason is that he would talk about how that song would be sung at his and Blaine's wedding and Kurt again gets embarrassed and awkward. She says that Kurt considered singing this song more intimate than sex, and Kurt tries to change topics. Santana then changes the subject and talks about psycho Brody, which intrigues Kurt. She admits that she found tons of cash while she was rummaging through all their stuff. When hearing this, Kurt and Rachel get a bit upset hearing that Santana went through all their stuff as an invasion of privacy and unexceptionable. She brushes it off and gets to the point that she thinks Brody is a drug dealer, something that Rachel and Kurt don't seem to fully agree by the judgement on their faces.
The snow is still going down and the four of them are still stuck inside. Kurt suggests they finish the movie - since Santana paused it. Santana doesn't want to finish, but is out voted 3-1. Santana brings up the drug dealing Brody hypothesis and Rachel decides to prove he's innocent by calling him. During the phone call, Santana is in the back acting out various drug users actions and Kurt brushes it off with a massive smirk of amusement on his face. At the end of the call, Kurt whispers to her that he agrees with her that he is drug dealer. She also makes a snide comment about Kurt during her private conversation with Rachel. She found the pregnancy test, and says that unless "Lady Hummel" was a lady along; the test has to be Rachel's. (Girls (and Boys) on Film)
When Santana goes to confront Brody at NYADA, she mentions that Kurt and Rachel are her family, and that she won't let anything bad happen to them. Later when Santana arrives back at the apartment, Kurt and Rachel are sitting waiting for her to have a housemate meeting. Kurt and Rachel find out from Brody about what happened between the two of them at NYADA and forces Kurt to tell her that they want her to move out. Santana seems surprised at the news, assuming that this was a joke. When they tell her it's not, she admits that she loves them and considers them a family, even though she also mentioned she can't stand them 90% of the time. However she follows their request, grabs her stuff and leaves, but she also took Kurt's pillow. (Feud)
Santana is Kurt's roommate once again. Santana and Kurt are in the bathroom while Rachel showers and Santana complains that she doesn't have enough shelf space. She tells Rachel to remove all of her skin products, but Kurt says that she's a bitch, and that those things are his. He then makes a rude remark to Santana. She then goes up to him and blackmails him, telling him that she will tell Rachel the truth about Brody if she doesn't get her shelf space. Kurt, reluctantly agrees. After he leaves, Santana and Rachel try to play a prank on Kurt. They find out about Kurt's guilty pleasure: a boyfriend arm pillow named Bruce. Later, Kurt buys Rachel and Santana boyfriend arm pillows, but makes Santana's a girl's arm. Even though Santana seems to be enjoying her pillow, Rachel says she doesn't need her pillow since she isn't lonely. Santana and Kurt are seen watching one of Kurt's favorite shows. She and Kurt are laughing and having a good time, while wearing their boyfriend/girlfriend pillows. Rachel later comes and they join her in Mamma Mia. (Guilty Pleasures)
Kurt, as well as Rachel, are concerned that Santana is throwing her life away, and he shows disdain of the fact that Santana works as a go-go girl. Kurt attempts to give her suggestions on what she wants to do for her dreams, but Santana declines it. Meanwhile, Kurt tells Rachel and Santana about the Ballet Gala, something that Santana doesn't seem to care about during first thoughts, but when Kurt convinces her to go so she could wear and keep a dress, she agrees. Kurt and Santana are both seen performing with Rachel and Isabelle during At the Ballet. (Lights Out)
Santana travels to Ohio with Rachel in order to help Blaine propose to Kurt. She participates in the performance of All You Need Is Love, at the beginning of which she and Kurt greet each other with a kiss on the cheek. She accompanies him throughout Dalton Academy, and is shown to be happy for him and Blaine when they get engaged. (Love, Love, Love)After her tearful breakdown during her performance of If I Die Young, Kurt follows Santana to the auditoruim and has a heart-to-heart with her. She reveals that she wanted to surprise everyone by saying nice things about Finn, some of which she had even written down, but didn't go through with it because she was ashamed. Kurt asks her to read them to her, convincing her by saying that Finn's passing taught him that shame is a wasted emotion. Kurt agrees when Santana says that Finn was a much better person than her, but also says that Finn knew that Santana was also decent. When Santana asks Kurt to leave, he obliges, but not before giving her the letterman jacket that belonged to Finn.
After No Surrender, Santana confronts Puck for stealing Finn's jacket. Kurt then tells him to give the jacket back as it is now Santana's. (The Quarterback)
When Kurt starts his indie-band, he offers Santana and her girlfriend Dani to join, to which they both agree. They later hold auditions at NYADA together and show very different reactions to Elliott Gilbert's audition, with Santana being completely amazed with his talent whil e Kurt is very intimitated. Santana is shocked when Kurt announces that Elliott didn't make it into the band and threatens to bitchslap him. Kurt later tells Rachel that he is jealous of Rachel's broadway career and Santana's success with her Yeast-i-Stat commercial.
When Kurt takes a break from work to talk to Elliott, Santana tells him to stop flirting, seeing as he is engaged to Blaine and, upon being told that Elliott has joined their band, seems happy with Kurt's decision. Later that day, the band is sitting around the living room of their Bushwick apartment, discussing possible band names, Santana is fed up with Kurt shooting down all of their ideas and not coming up with something good himself. Both of them are very satisfied with the band name Rachel comes up with, Pamela Lansbury. Rachel, Dani, Elliott, Kurt and Santana then perform Roar as their first ever band performance. (A Katy or A Gaga)
When Blaine and Sam arrive at the Bushwick Apartment, both Kurt and Santana welcome them into their home. Later, while at work at the Spotlight Diner, they both enjoy and dance to Blaine's performance of Piano Man. The next day, Santana protests against having a piano in their apartment, but later joins in the group's performance of Just the Way You Are, dancing with Kurt as the song comes to an end. Santana gives a pointed look at Kurt after seeing Sam and Rachel's chemistry. (Movin' Out)Santana visits Kurt and Rachel for Christmas in 2012 and gives Kurt a My Pretty Princess Styling Head and an all-expenses-paid trip to Dildo Island in Canada for Christmas; both of which bring Kurt great joy. Santana tells Kurt that, after his recent break-up with Blaine, he needs to live it up a little and they both agree to work as Christmas Elves at Santa Land in the Mid-Town Mall with Rachel.
The next day, at the Mall, the three of them wait for Santa to arrive and when he does, slightly drunk, and decides to go to the bathroom first, leaving the children angry, Rachel decides they should perform a song to calm down the bunch. She, along with Kurt and Santana performs Here Comes Santa Claus, but they all end of having food thrown at them by the angry crowd. The next day when Santana doesn't show up for work, Kurt and Rachel call her. Santana, who is taking a bubble bath at the Bushwick Apartment, claims she needed a break and, upon being told by Kurt that Santa hasn't showed up yet and they need her to be Mrs. Claus for the day, tells him that he should just play Mrs. Claus, seeing as he was born to play the role. Santana eventually gives in and comes to the Mall, playing Mrs. Claus for the day, doing a terrible job while at it.
Both Kurt and Santana, along with Rachel, are deputized by Cody aka. Sexy Claus, who offers his help upon hearing that they're having trouble with their Santa Claus and the angry crowd. Taking him up on his offer, they invite him over for dinner. Later that day, Kurt, Santana and Rachel prepare for dinner when Cody arrives. While he's walking around the apartment, Kurt and Santana bicker in the background. After, all four of them perform The Chipmunk Song (Christmas Don't Be Late) while inhaling helium. Santana and Rachel later discover Kurt and Cody making out in Kurt's "room" and Santana, although shocked, tells Kurt she's impressed with his outgoing behaviour. Santana is woken up by Rachel hours later only to discover that Cody has bondaged Kurt and robbed Rachel and him of all their belongings.
Later that day, Kurt and Santana talk about what happened last night. Kurt confesses that he just wanted to get out of his comfort zone for once and feels really ashamed now, but also makes Santana promise to never tell anyone about this, especially Blaine, to which Santana glady agrees. When Rachel comes home she convinces them to take up another holiday-themed job and the three of them perform Away In A Manger in a shop window, dresses as living mannequins. (Previously Unaired Christmas)
When Rachel and Santana fight about Santana auditioning for the understudy role in Funny Girl without telling Rachel about it, Kurt comes to Santana's defense and tells Rachel he's disappointed that she can't be happy for Santana. Later, Rachel decides to move out, leaving Kurt and Santana to share the apartment. (Frenemies)
Kurt and Santana are now living in the Bushwick Apartment without Rachel, who sees them both as traitors and even tells Santana that she gave her Kurt. When the two of them perform Gloria with Elliott and keep fighting for his attention, Kurt is obviously annoyed with them.Trying to restore peace one last time, Kurt tells Rachel and Santana that he's hurt by this situation as well, fighting with both of his best friends instead of living by the agreement they had all made two months ago. When his attempt fails, he kicks Santana, as well as Rachel, out of Pamela Lansbury, effectively disbanding the band, and creates a new one with Dani and Elliott, called One Three Hill. Both Santana and Rachel attend his new band's debut performance at Callbacks. After a somewhat sad speech about how he imagined the trio he'd be singing in to be very different - meaning he'd thought he'd be performing with Rachel and Santana - he, along with Dani and Elliott performs The Happening.
The next day, Kurt is surprised to find Rachel and Santana having a mature talk about their problem in the Bushwick Apartment. The two of them leave Kurt, along with Dani and Elliott, to perform Hold On during band rehearsal. (Trio)
Both Kurt and Santana go back to Lima to partake in Mr. Schue's last Glee club assignment. When Santana stands up to give a speech about how awful Rachel is, Kurt is shown visibly frustrated with the whole feud. Also Santana says that someone in the loft leaves facial hair in the sink and that everybody knows it's not Kurt, that remark leaves Kurt outraged. (100)
Kurt sings I Am Changing with Mercedes to help Rachel and Santana to fix their problems. (New Directions)
Kurt meets Santana at the Spotlight Diner. He is in a panic after Rachel has told him she won't make it back in time from LA for her Funny Girl show. Kurt tells Santana and Mercedes that they have to find a way to stall the opening of the show and suggests a bomb and bed bug scare, or telling everyone that Barbra Streisand is doing a free show in the park. Santana tells Kurt that his ideas won't work, but she has something better in mind. Santana ends up reprising her understudy role in Funny Girl and saving Rachel's job. (The Back-Up Plan)
They are both having lunch with Blaine and Rachel. When Kurt asks them if one of them wants to join him to go to a show, they are all busy. Santana tells him she has to be in the recording studio all day. When Kurt comes home, Santana and Rachel are planning the Broadway Bitches event to restore Rachel's image. When he excitedly asks if he can perform at the event, Rachel tells him no. Santana tells him to not take it personally. She tells him he would be so good that he would just be pulling the focus from her. When Kurt announces his new role as Peter in the retirement home rendition of Peter Pan later that week, Santana makes it a joke and says she can't come, because Rachel's event is that night. Kurt feels left out and not supported by his friends, even though he has always been there for them. Santana is not present at Kurt's show, but does sing Take Me Home Tonight with the rest of the group and Maggie later that night. At the end of the night, the event has turned out to be a big success and Rachel does her interview with Santana and Kurt by her side. The three of them share a hug together. (Old Dog, New Tricks)
- Both are LGBT main characters.
- Both were on the Cheerios in Season One.
- It can be easily assumed that when they think their feelings and/or emotions are being threatened, they usually put on a cold, feisty, or sassy front.
- Both used to be rivals with Rachel and ended up being very good friends with her, or in Kurt's case, best friends.
- Both broke up with their significant others in The Break-Up. Kurt with Blaine after he cheated on him and Santana with Brittany due to the long distance relationship not working for either of them.
- In Season Four, both of them move in with Rachel in NY after being encouraged to go there by their past love (Blaine and Brittany respectively).
- Both have kissed Brittany.
- Both have had "beards" to hide their sexual orientation. Kurt's beards were Tina (Preggers) and Brittany (Laryngitis); Santana's beard was Dave Karofsky (from Born This Way to Prom Queen).
- Santana considers him and Rachel "family" (Feud).
- Both have taken interests in Finn and Sam.
- Both have had difficult coming out. Kurt was heavily bullied at school after his coming out and Santana was rejected by her grandmother, Alma, after she confessed her sexual orientation to her.
- Sang Together (In a Group Number)
Solos with
|Bad Romance
|Quinn, Tina, and Mercedes
|Don't Stop Believin'
|Rachel, Finn, Puck, Artie, and Mercedes
|To Sir, with Love
|Rachel, Finn, Artie, Mercedes, and Tina
- Related Songs
- Vogue by Madonna. (The Power of Madonna)
- Sang Together (In a Group Number)
Solos with
|Time Warp
|The Rocky Horror Glee Show
|Mercedes, Finn, Quinn, Artie, Tina, and Brittany
- Related Songs
- As If We Never Said Goodbye from Sunset Boulevard. (Born This Way)
- Dancing Queen by ABBA. (Prom Queen)
- Sang Together (In a Group Number)
Solos with
|It's All Over
|Asian F
|Mercedes, Finn, Will, Puck, and Mike
|Constant Craving
|I Kissed a Girl
|Do They Know It's Christmas?
|Extraordinary Merry Christmas
|Mercedes, Rachel, Blaine, Brittany, Artie, Tina, Puck, and Finn
|Summer Nights
|Mercedes, Finn, Puck, Tina, Sam, Rory, and Sugar
|Black or White
|Mercedes, Rachel, and Artie
|How Will I Know
|Dance with Somebody
|Mercedes and Rachel
|Paradise by the Dashboard Light
|Finn, Rachel, Mercedes, Mike, Puck, Brittany, and Blaine
|We Are the Champions
|Rachel, Finn, Puck, and Quinn
- Back Up Vocals
|Sung by
|Backup with
|More Than a Woman
|Saturday Night Glee-ver
|New Directions
- Related Songs
- Hit Me with Your Best Shot/One Way or Another by Blondie/Pat Benatar. (Mash Off)
- Perfect by P!nk. (I Kissed a Girl)
- Sang Together (In a Group Number)
Solos with
|The Scientist
|The Break-Up
|Finn, Rachel, Blaine, Brittany, Will, and Emma
|You're the One That I Want
|Marley, Ryder, Rachel, Finn, Brittany, and Blaine
|We've Got Tonite
|I Do
|Rachel, Blaine, Quinn, Artie, Marley, Finn, Jake, and Betty
|Mamma Mia
|Guilty Pleasures
|Unique, Blaine, Sam, Kitty, Marley, and Rachel
|At the Ballet
|Lights Out
|Rachel and Isabelle
- Sang Together (In a Group Number)
Solos with
|Let It Be
|Tina in the Sky with Diamonds
|Tina, Kitty, Artie, and Rachel
|Seasons of Love
|The Quarterback
|Tina, Mercedes, and Puck
|Just the Way You Are
|Movin' Out
|Rachel, Blaine, and Sam
|Here Comes Santa Claus (Down Santa Claus Lane)
|Previously Unaired Christmas
|The Chipmunk Song (Christmas Don't Be Late)
|Rachel and Cody
|Away In A Manger
|Kitty and Rachel
|Hold On
|Artie, Blaine, Dani, Elliott, Rachel, Sam and Tina
|Take Me Home Tonight
|Old Dog, New Tricks
|Artie, Blaine, Maggie, Mercedes, Rachel, and Sam
- Back Up Vocals
|Sung by
|Backup with
|Opening Night
|Blaine, Sam and Tina
- Related Songs
- All You Need Is Love by The Beatles. (Love, Love, Love)
- Marry the Night by Lady Gaga. (A Katy or A Gaga)
- Roar by Katy Perry. (A Katy or A Gaga)
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2) In an alternate timeline in 2374, the USS Voyager was forced to engage warp drive while the structural integrity field was still down, in order to escape the Krenim weapon ship. As a result, many of the outer hull plates were torn from the ship. (VOY: "Year of Hell")
My bad, it was the Structural Integrity Field, not the Warp Field. Still an impressive feat though
3) I'm not saying just personal shields though Antaran. Why not use a ground based shield relay? Like something like what Soran used in ST: Generations to keep Picard out?
It's a Bajoran Station... 1, it isn't all that great to be honest. DS9 was just sorta a "right place right time" kinda thing, so they used it. Second... I think it has something to do with it being Bajoran... I dont' know off hand but I figure the UFP isn't big on stealing others technology :P
And yeah, the shields were down. By that point they didn't have much of anything left, heh.
I wager if the Enterprise had made it to the fleet (as small as it was) it would have been a very, very different fight Especially if my hypothesis about the nebula class they listed was right (sensors pod able to detect and relay info about the Scimitar thru it's cloak)
Kitt, the shields tht are found on a starship and personal defence shields are two totally different things.
All shields can only take so much punishment before they fail. The more powerful the weapon, the more punishment. And a lascannon is an epicly powerful weapon. Plus, if the most ships u can get into a fight is 2,000, the space marines still have 39,000 vessels at their disposal, and all of those ships are new and active, and all of those ships are top of the line, and all of those ships have the most experianced crew in the Imperium, and all of them have the most devastating firepower known to man.
Would you like to know how completely effective a battle barge is? Imagine earth to be covered with a massive shield, the likes of which no weapon could ever hope to penetrate in a hundred years. The strength of the battlebarges shield and hull can ram that shield and break through it. And yes something in WH40k has happened like this where the Astral Knight's battle barge rammed the Necron World engine's shield and pierced it and went through it.
All of your arguements are based off of the idea that I cannot take down your shields. And when push comes to shove, I'll just ram your ass, and once my terminators are on your ship, you are doomed. Even worse if they are the tyranids.
And if you have no shields, my melta guns will slice and dice your hull. And with 39,000 ships at my disposal, i am totally willing to ram any ship.
If this Nebula class has this sensor pods why does Picard say that the Scimitar could destroy every vessel before they even knew what hit them. Then why is Earth itself threatend?
In my opinion they where very lucky than it was a clone of picard. and how did he get the right fire solution on the enterprise to knock down it systems in his first attack.
in the end it was picards tactical knowhow that saved the day.
they were very lucky, very lucky indeed.
2.dude, there is a big difference betwean SIF and Warp fields, but i see your point. still warp is at the bottom of the food chain as far as FTL goes on these boards.
3.cause we are discussing ground combat and this involves streetfights, entranching, camophlage, drops behind enemy lines, rapid deployments, blitzkrieg...
2.partially true. in ST shield this means they will eventually fail even if they ar imune to the weapon fire directly. it is simply a metter of exhaustion. eighter the emmiters or the genrator will eventually oveload, run out of fuel, burn up the relays....it might take a while, but eventually it will happen. even in TNG we have witnised how low level threats were able to eventualy breach the shield if acting persistantly for an indefinite amount of time.
3.i would not har line the max amount of ships UFP could muster for a conflict. it would be largely speculative. in one engagement during Dominion Wars they formed an assult fleet of over 600 ships my using elements of 3 different fleets, at the same time being cautios of not thining their deffences to much. but even so, probably 35-50% of those ships were Mirandas, light cruisers recomisioned as destroyers.
4.aye ramming is always a viable alternative if your ships are agile anough or survivable anough. at least as agile as the oponent. this is why Jem Hadar "Bug Ships" (esentialy frigates or light desroyers) used it against Klingons (mostly Vor'cha attack cruisers and destroyer sized Bird's of prey) and even on Feds every now and then (as in Odisey's case).
as for the final outcome, yes it was Picard's intimate knowlidge of himself and lots of luck that won the day. had Shinzon wanted the E-E destroyed he could have done it. but he wanted it disabled. still i think 2 sovereigns could have mached the Scimitar. or at least 2 sovereigns and something way cheaper would be a sure win.
Star Trek Weapon Systems:
Phasers, or PHASed Energy Rectification, are the primary sub-light weapon used by most advanced space-faring races, most notably the United Federation of Planets, for ship-to-ship and ship-to-ground combat.
The first phasers were designed to replaced primitive EM weapons such has lasers and particle beam accelerators. Phasers and EM weapons both share a common design lineage in practical directed energy devices created for early starship to clear dust and small meteorites from their flight path. Phasers in their current form came into wide spread service during the 2200's, with most Starfleet ships being equipped with them by the 2250's. Today phasers are used on board starships to place a high energy beam on a hostile target's hull in order to damage or destroy the vessel. Phasers can also be configured for multiple non-destructive purposes such as low energy scans or drilling operations.
The energy released by phasers is created by the rapid nadion effect (RNE); nadions are subatomic particles that interact with certain types of superconducting crystals called fushigi-no-umi. When the nadions interact with the crystal, the strong atomic force is freed from the nuclei of the crystals' atoms; the strong force is then transferred to the phaser's output beam.
The basic component of the ship's phasers is the emitter. The phaser emitter is composed of an EPS power system, a prefire chamber, and several emitter crystals to allow discharge in multiple directions. A couple hundred phaser emitters may be arranged linearly to form large phaser arrays.
The phaser emitters are powered by the ships EPS system, when the firing sequence starts, plasma from the EPS conduits is discharged into the plasma distribution manifold. Plasma flows from the manifold to each of the phaser emitters where it enters the prefire chamber. In the prefire chamber the plasma energy undergoes an EM spectrum shift and is released to the emitter crystals to create the RNE effect. Once the energy is discharged from the emitter crystal it flows into the neighboring emitter due to force coupling effects. Energy from each emitter segment converges to a final discharge point where the phaser beam is released. The starship's firing computer can control the direction and power level of the beam emitted by controlling the flow of EPS plasma of each emitter and the direction it is released to the emitter crystal.
Photon Torpedo:
Photon Torpedoes are the primary faster than light, FTL, weapon used by Starfleet onboard starships and starbases. Photon torpedoes were first introduced into Starfleet service in 2215 to replace earlier photonic torpedoes and nuclear warheads.
Since their introduction there have been two primary torpedo designs. The first design was a 1:1 mater-antimatter explosive device. These torpedoes contained microfussion initiators that fired frozen deuterium slugs into magnetically suspended anti-deuterium. After briefly being held by the magnetic containment, the matter/antimatter annihilation energy was released powering the warhead. These first warheads had a maximum range of 750,000 km; even though powered by a matter/antimatter reaction, the warheads had a very low yield as there was not 100% annihilation. As a result these torpedoes were only used for defense purposes.
The current photon torpedo design is a variable matter/antimatter warhead design that was first introduced in 2271. In these new torpedoes the matter and antimatter are magnetically suspended in thousands of packets that increase the surface area of the reaction when the two mix. The resulting complete annihilation, when combined, multiplies the yield of the warhead to 18.5 isotons. The range of these new torpedoes has also increased to 4,050,000 km.
The standard Starfleet torpedo design consist of a 2.1 meter long elliptical enclosure containing deuterium and anti-deuterium storage tanks containing a maximum of 1.5 kilograms each; the storage tanks are connected to a central combiner tank. The torpedo casing also contains magnetic containment equipment, guidance and targeting systems, detonation assemblies, and a warp sustainer engine. If the ship is traveling at warp velocities, the warp sustainer engine is capable of transferring a ships warp field to the torpedo when fired to allow the weapon to move at FTL speeds; though it can not effectively increase the speed of the torpedo much beyond the ships original velocity. The sustainer engine is also not capable sending the torpedo into warp if the ship was traveling at impulse velocities when fired.
Quanum Torpedo:
The quantum torpedo is Starfleet's replacement for the standard photon torpedo aboard starships.
The quantum torpedo operates through super string theory, specifically zero point energy, where an eleven dimensional membrane is created and twisted into a form of a Genus 1 then pinched off from the background vacuum energy. This act calls into existence a large number of new sub-atomic particles and freeing energy used to power the warhead. This process is similar to the event that created the universe in the big bang.
Testing of the quantum torpedo first took place on 2355 under the surface of an abandon moon. The energy output of the device was calculated to be 52.3 isotons, more than twice the theoretical maximum output of a standard photon torpedo.
The design of the quantum torpedo consists of the zero-point field reaction chamber with an EM initiator attached to one end of the chamber along with an EM rectifier, waveguide bundle, subspace field generator, and continuum distortion emitter. The zero point reaction is powered by an uprated photon torpedo warhead with a yield of 21.8 isotons. The energy of the antimatter detonation is funneled into the initiator where the membrane reaction occurs.
The quantum torpedo is currently only being used aboard Defiant and Sovereign class vessels due to the difficult in manufacturing each torpedo.
As for how he was able to hit he Big-E so hard so easily:
1) They were at warp - I don't think they anticipated being attacked at that moment until it was far too late. Remember - due to the incredible power drain, Regenerative Shielding cannot be used whilst at warp - so far, only a handful of ships have reactors potent enough to support it (those being the Prometheus Class and the Sovereign class) at all.
2) The Enterprise was in orbit over Romulus for, I believe, 72 hours before the Scimitar decloaked... plenty of time for EXTENSIVE scans.
2) Yeah, my bad XD
3) True, but how long do you think it'd take them to set up these kinds of shields? Hell, personally, if ground combat become the norm, I'd bet StarFleet Tactical Command would find a way to put a bubble shield on a ground vehicle, much like the Gungans used... just without the problem of letting people walk right thru em
The Daedalus class, designed before the formation of the Federation, and mothballed less than 40 years after the Federation formed, used Laser Cannons (Las Cannons) as it's primary weapon...
And that ship would not even be considered a THREAT against a modern Starship... hell, even the NX-01 would have laughed at it!
but still shields would be at max.
2) that doesn't play in your favour. so scans show the weak spots. remember they only wanted the ent-e cripled not destroyed. it could have been over in minutes. so how powerfull your shields may be in the end it doesn't really matter.
now how's scanning technology for this warhammer ?? not to mention SW.
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danawhitaker said...
5000g is perfectly and easily attainable before level 80. I had epic flying in my early/mid 70s while I was still working on Loremaster for Outlands. I hadn't even touched Northrend quests at all. I didn't farm stuff to sell. I did the quests, I always got the items from quest rewards that sold to vendor for the most if I wasn't going to use them, and I auctioned like mad. Yes. That's right. I said the dirty word. AH.
Why are so many people afraid to use the AH? I've had over 80k gold on my main, and a full half of that is from the auction house. If it's green, blue, or anything remotely usable by a crafting profession, auction it. Maybe if people stopped being lazy and did that instead of vending stuff, they'd have more gold flying around. I popped to Northrend when I finished Northrend, dinged 77 not terribly long after, and by the time I did that I had another 1k gold. From auctions. And no, I don't spend all day on the AH price comparing and reselling. I simply sell what I get as loot. I loot everything. I vend what I can't auction.
If you take the absolute fastest path to level 80, meaning you skip a ton of the content in the process, this is what happens. It's a trade-off. You can level somewhat more slowly, solo, and easily attain the gold required for those skills relatively quickly. Or you can plow to 80 as fast as possible, and get there without the gold to even fly around Northrend. I don't mean to be harsh, but I've watched a good chunk of my guild sit in this boat, and it's frustrating.


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SaintStryfe said...
ENH's big problem is we still can't close gaps like Warrior, Rogues and DPS Druids can. if we're feared, we're sent running one direction, then have to run back to our targets, with pets, elementals and such on biting us, dots dinging, ect.
I think a talent that had a DoT limiting effecs (maybe adding natural Resiliance, or rapping up existing resiliance) , and a way to break CC (or what i'd perfer, everyone's CC getting pulled back).
I like that idea of Natural Resilience...
Elemental Embrace (3)
Must have 45 points in Enhancement
Increases Resilience by 15/20/25 percent.
Say hello to a nearly ultimate PVP talent. And for Anti-CC:
Shamantic Clarity (2)
Must have 45 Points in Enhancement
Remove a movement impairing, fear or confusion effect. 5 minute cool down.
Remove a movement impairing, fear or confusion effect. 2.5 minute cool down.
I know, far too overpowered, Locks will whine, Hunters will whine, and we can't annoy either of them can we.... sheesh.
epsilon343 said...
I'd love to have some sort of CC that would let me fight multiple mobs effectively. Right now I usually just have to run if there's more than one mob pulling towards me because I know I'll most likely be dead or close to it before I can start on the next guy.


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Le Ann Finger, the St. Olaf womens golf coach, is familiar with the rubber band effect the school tends to have on its alumni. Finger graduated from St. Olaf with a speech-communication and education degree in 1985. She then took over a teaching position in the Apple Valley school system where she had the opportunity to work with middle and high school students. She also worked for Lutheran Brotherhood for ten years from 1987 to 1997. In spite of her busy life, Finger managed to return to St. Olaf in both 1986 and 1989 for one-year stints as the Ole womens golf coach. Most recently, she took over the program in the spring of 2000, and is now in the midst of her fifth year of coaching Oles. In addition to her work with the team, Le Ann is an assistant pro at Northfield Golf Club and has been the Sports Information Director for St. Olaf since last February. Coming back to St. Olaf was a no-brainer for me, said Finger, it fit with my life and it was a time when the team needed direction. Im glad I can be here. Finger began her own golf career when she was 12 years old. She continued to play through high school, and played all four years at St. Olaf. She finished off her last season as the teams captain. When shes not on the course coaching or enjoying a round, Finger loves to spend time with her husband and their two children. I love sports in general, said Finger. Football and basketball are two family favorites, and she even admits to being a closet NASCAR fan. Her plan for building a strong womens golf program includes putting academics and proper form first, as well as developing score consistency. Right now we have a good mix with lots of bright and talented kids, said Finger. Of the nine teams in the MIAC conference, St. Olaf tends to rank in the middle third. Our goals for this year are to either stay in that middle third, or move up, said Finger, who echoed her statements found on the St. Olaf womens golf homepage. We are confident we can compete with the top schools in the conference. We've added more depth to our schedule this fall so we are in good shape, she said. She hopes to achieve these goals by recruiting heavily from incoming classes while strengthening the abilities of those already on the team. Golf is a skill sport, said Finger, we have to find players who have already acquired that skill. Fingers team played in two invitational meets September 14th and 15th at Waseca Lakeside. They placed 7th out of 9 teams on the first day of competition and 6th out of 9 teams the second day. She looks forward to strong performances from veteran players Abby Sprenger 04, Naomi Schwegler 04, and captain Heather Mattson 03. Their next meet will be held at Luther College in Decorah, IA on Sept. 22 followed closely by the St. Olaf invitational on Sept. 25th. Weve always done well at Luther. Were looking to finish with the top teams, said Schwegler. Overall, we are continuing to improve and will keep improving until conference, she said. The women hope fan support at their only home meet next Wednesday will encourage their success. The womens abbreviated season culminates Oct. 5-6 when they compete at The Fairways in St. Cloud. The women can realistically expect to finish in the top five of the conference.
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Seventy-one-years-ago, the attack on Pearl Harbor sent emotional shockwave's across the United States. Friday, a ceremony was held in Sioux City to honor those who were involved.
It's an event that motivated many young people to join the service. One of those young men is Phil Severson of Sioux City.
Severson was a young child at his family's farm listening to the radio, when he heard the news that later would inspire him to join the Navy. He says the events of Pearl Harbor, parallel the attacks of 9/11.
"I'm afraid too many people forget too quickly and even now, people are forgetting 9/11, so how can you expect some of the young people to understand December 7th," Retired Seaman Phil Severson with the U.S. Navy said.
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Barbra is a maverick, unapproachable in talent, amazingly gifted in skill. She is the first to win an Oscar for both acting and songwriting. She is the first to win a Grammy, an Emmy, an Oscar and a Tony Award. In fact she has so many awards, it is hard to keep track. Barbra has received 2 Oscars, 8 Golden Globes, 5 Emmys and a Cecil B.DeMille Award, to just name a few. Barbra holds the second most Gold Album certifications, the first going to the King himself, Elvis Presley. Barbra can direct, produce, write and star in a feature film and is the only artist ever to achieve the rank of Billboard's #1 in albums four decades in a row. Barbra's talent seems to have no boundaries.
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In December of 2004 Barbra was reported to be in good health after a benign polyp was removed from her colon.
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Barbra Streisand married actor Elliott Gould on March 21, 1963, but later divorced in 1971. Their son, Jason Gould, is Barbra's only child. In 1991 Jason would play the role of Bernard Woodruff in the haunting film The Prince of Tides, starring Barbra Streisand and Nick Nolte. Barbra also directed the successful movie.
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Barbra has recorded over 40 albums and has shared duets with some of the best voices known in the industry. Hits like Guilty (sung with Barry Gibb), You Don't Bring Me Flowers (with Neil Diamond), Cryin' Time (with Ray Charles), and so many more, played only a mere second to her amazing songs like Evergreen, The Way We Were, Don't Rain on my Parade and People.
Some of Barbra's Producer skills can be seen in movies like A Star Is Born (1976, Executive Producer), Yentl (1983, Producer), The Prince of Tides (1991, Producer) and The Mirror Has Two Faces (1996, Producer). Steven Spielberg once said, "I wish I could tell you how to fix your picture, but I can't. It's the best film I've seen since Citizen Kane." (referring to the movie Yentl)
One can catch Barbra in a newer film called Meet the Fockers (2004), also starring Robert De Niro, Ben Stiller, Dustin Hoffman and Blythe Danner.
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Manatee County Sheriff's deputies searched for the parents of the twin toddlers who were walking unsupervised late Tuesday night. Deputies canvassed the area to no avail.
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Goodbye old world, bonjour tristesseJuly 08,2013PARIS — Versailles lived again at haute couture week, as designers paraded their let-them-eat-cake creations, hand-stitched with gilt embroidery and trimmed with guiltless fur — frousfrous that no real women can wear and few can afford.
On Friday night, Christian Lacroix offered his homage to Elsa Schiaparelli, but even high fashion couldn't lift Paris from its low mood. "Liberté, égalité, morosité," Le Monde declared.
Joie de vivre has given way to gaze de navel. The French are so busy wallowing in their existential estrangement — a state of mind Camus described as "Should I kill myself, or have a cup of coffee?" — that they don't even have the energy to be rude. And now that they're smoking electronic cigarettes, their ennui doesn't look as cool. It's not that they've lost faith in their own superiority. They've lost faith that the rest of the world sees it. The whole country has, as Catherine Deneuve says of her crazy blue moods, une araignée au plafond — a spider on the ceiling.
On Place Vendome, Christian Lacroix was dispatching models in black crepe chiffon peplum basques — whatever they are — while on Avenue Hoche, Lacroix's dentist was bemoaning the black crepe City of Lights. Holding a cigarette in a waiting room filled with Picasso-print pillows, Dr. Gérard Armandou told how his patients, always prone to pessimism, are even more filled with malheur now as they sit in his chair contemplating tous les problèmes, including "not going anymore on holiday to Egypt."
"Cocteau said the French are Italians in a bad mood, but now there is more morosity," he said. "We are connecting with nostalgia. What is nostalgia? Where the present doesn't agree with the hope that you got in the past."
He said there are widening chasms between sectors of French society — old and young, natives and immigrants, "smokers and nonsmokers, homosexuals and non-homosexuals."
"Enter conflict, where before there was none," he said. "The French people, maybe they think too much. The happy stupid don't see the problem." People with joie de vivre, after all, are simply not paying attention.
"It's not the end of the world," Armandou said with a Gallic shrug. "It's the end of one world."
The French have higher rates of taking antidepressants and committing suicide than most other Europeans. And while arguing about how to move forward, they feel trapped in the past, weighed down by high unemployment and low hopes, the onerous taxes that drove Gérard Depardieu to flee, conflicts with immigrants, political scandals, Hollande fatigue, Germany envy, economic stagnation, a hyperelitist education system, and cold, rainy weather that ruined the famous Paris spring. Instead of confronting the questions at hand — how to adjust to globalization and compete with the Chinese — the French are grieving their lost stature and glorious past, stretching back to the colonial empire, the Lumières, the revolution, Napoleon, even the Jazz Age writers and artists. They're stuck in a sentimental time warp as vivid as the one depicted in Woody Allen's "Midnight in Paris."
"In 1945, France was on the losers' side, but this reality has long been masked by the political speeches of Gen. de Gaulle and François Mitterrand: They both maintained, in their own way, the idea that it remained a great power promised to an exceptional destiny," the historian Christophe Prochasson told Le Monde. "After they left office, the French continued to live on that belief." Today, he added, this illusion is disappearing gradually and "France is a country in mourning." What is lacking now in France, he said, is the music of history, "the capacity to contemplate tomorrows that sing."
It doesn't help that as they come to grips with their dashed illusions of grandeur, the French find out that their own government and America's have them under the spyglass. "L'Oncle Sam se comporte très, très mal" (Uncle Sam behaves very, very badly), Le Monde scolded in a front-page editorial last Monday.
"I know we can be unbearable but not to the point where you are entitled to put mics at our place," said Philippe Manière, the managing partner of Footprint management consultants.
A 2011 BVA-Gallup poll conducted in 51 countries revealed that the French were even more pessimistic than Afghans and Iraqis. As the sociologist François Dubet told Le Monde, "If France doesn't get all the Olympic medals and all the Nobel Prizes, the French consider it hopeless."
Manière complains about how "disgusting" the Disneyfied Champs-Élysées has become, with hordes of teenage tourists snapping pictures of themselves in front of Ladurée, the macaroon shop, and pictures of the French without even a "s'il vous plait."
"The intersection of globalization and the French spirit is especially painful," he said. "We have this feeling that everything we were used to is disappearing and what we are offered is not as good." The French gave up the franc but don't want to give up anything else to mesh into a bland global society.
"The French are very conceptual, very cerebral," Manière said. "We need to have more than food and TV. In America, it is not treason of an ideal if you want to watch TV all day, whereas in France it is."
It is a measure of their desperation that the French have become fixated on American-style happiness studies. Claudia Senik, a professor at the Paris School of Economics and the Sorbonne, has become a media darling discussing her research on French malaise. Living in France, with its unyielding judgments about talent and its locked labor market, reduces the probability of being happy by 20 percent, she says.
Though everyone else flocks here to be dazzled, the French are less satisfied than the average European. She calls it "a cultural trait" linked not only to circumstance but to values, beliefs and behaviors passed from generation to generation, and exacerbated by madly competitive schools that are hard on self-esteem. In other words, unhappiness has been bred into the French bone. When French citizens emigrate, she said, they take their tristesse with them.
"Our happiness function is a little deficient," she said over espresso at Le Rostand across from the Jardin du Luxembourg. "It's really in the French genome."
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Carl K. Winter
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Dr. Winter researches the detection of pesticides and naturally-occurring toxins in foods, how to assess their risks and identify how to use the science in the regulatory decision-making process. His most recent work includes looking at the relationships between crop production systems and naturally-occurring toxins. He also studies how to improve educational activities through incorporation of music into food safety curricula.
Selected Publications
- Katz, J.M., M.R. LaFrano., Winter, C.K., and B.J. Burri. 2013. Modelling potential B-Carotene intake and cyanide exposure from consumption of biofortified cassava. J. Nutritional Science 2:1-8.
- Winter, C.K. 2013. Pesticide biomonitoring: Applications and limitations for food safety risk assessment. New Food 16: 42-46.
- Winter, C.K. 2012. Pesticide residues in imported, organic, and "suspect" fruits and vegetables. J. Agric. Food Chem. 60: 4425-4429.
- Katz, J.M., C.K. Winter, S. Buttrey, and J.G. Fadel. 2012. Comparison of acrylamide intake from Western and guideline based diets using probabilistic techniques and linear programming. Food and Chemical Toxicology 50: 877-883.
- Lambertini, E., M.D. Danyluk, D.W. Schaffner, C.K. Winter, and L.J. Harris. 2012. Risk of salmonellosis from consumption of almonds in the North American market. Food Research International 45: 1166-1174.
- Winter, C.K. 2012. Pesticides in food. IN: Schrenk, D., ed. Chemical Contaminants and Residues in Foods. Woodhead Publishing Ltd., Cambridge, England.
- Winter, C.K. and J.M. Katz. 2011. Dietary exposure to pesticide residues from commodities alleged to contain the highest contamination levels. Journal of Toxicology. doi: 10.1155/2011/589674.
- Winter, C.K. 2011. Filling My Plate with fear. Food Technology. November, p. 92.
- Winter, C.K. 2011. Food safety - other contaminants. IN: B.L. Caballero, L. Allen and A. Prentice (eds.), Encyclopedia of Human Nutrition 2nd Ed., Elsevier, Amsterdam.
Heidinger, J.C., C.K. Winter and J.S. Cullor. 2009. Quantatitive microbial risk assessment for Staphylococcus aureus and Staphylococcus Enterotoxin A in raw milk. J. Food Protection 72(8): 1641-1653.
Winter, C.K., A.M. Fraser, J.B. Gleason, S.K. Hovey, S.M. McCurdy, and O.S. Snider. 2009. Food safety education using music parodies. Journal of Food Science Education 8: 62-67.
Katz, J.M. and C.K. Winter. 2009. Comparison of pesticide exposure from consumption of domestic and imported fruits and vegetables. Food and Chemical Toxicology 47: 335-338.
Winter, C.K. 2009. Organic food production and its influence on naturally occurring toxins. In: Kirchmann, H. and L. Bergstrom, eds. Organic Crop Production: Ambitions and Limitations, Springer, New York pp. 231-239.
Awards and Honors
- 3rd Annual Hayes and Phillips Lectureship, University of Minnesota, 2013
- Borlaug CAST Communication Award, 2012
- NSF International Food Safety Leadership Award for Education and Training 2009
- Hod Ogden Medal of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention / Association of State and Territorial Directors of Health Promotion and Public Health Education, for "innovative and creative musical approach to educate the public about food safety" 2003
- Fellow of the Institute of Food Technologists 2008
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Gainesville wide receiver Tai-ler Jones, who will announce his college decision on Thursday, has Notre Dame among his finalists.
PHOTOS: Meet WR Tai-Ler Jones and the rest of Gainesville's 'Big Four' prospects
There's a good reason. His father, Andre Jones, played linebacker and defensive end for Notre Dame. The younger Jones has narrowed down to UGA, North Carolina, Stanford, California, UCLA, Ohio State and the Fighting Irish. He is one of the nation's leaders in early scholarships offers with 32.
"Notre Dame is a great school … and I know that because my dad says that about every day," Jones said with a laugh.
"He tells me all the time about his experiences, and how the college life and connections you make at Notre Dame are different than any other school in the country," Jones said. "It's like one big brotherhood, and they all help each other out."
Jones said he feels like better days are ahead for Notre Dame, which posted records of 3-9 and 7-6 over the last two seasons under Charlie Weis. "Because they are Notre Dame, they are going to get the recruits to help them succeed. In any given year, like when my dad signed there, they can have a great year in recruiting and then compete for the national championship."
How would Jones feel about following in his father's footsteps? "It's a great feeling for my dad for me to recruited by Notre Dame. It's his alma mater, and I know he'd love to see me run out of the tunnel in the blue and gold. They're one of my top schools." Jone attended one Notre Dame game, last year's matchup with Michigan.
Notre Dame has been quiet with its recent recruiting efforts in Georgia, signing only one prospect from the state over the last three years. Jones visited Stanford, California and UCLA last week over spring break. He claims no favorites and will commit on Thursday at Gainesville High.
April 14th, 2009
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April 14th, 2009
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So according to mutt fans it's a toss-up between the state school of Georgia and Notre Dame. Ha, ha, ha. Athen's is where the spoiled kids of Gwinnett go to party between Sunday night and Friday at noon. Please don't confuse the academics, environment, and experience offered by the two schools. There is no comparison.
April 14th, 2009
2:31 pm
Dawgs would KILL Notre Dame if they played a game. Next question.
April 14th, 2009
2:24 pm
I say he ends up at UGA
April 14th, 2009
2:23 pm
Les- yeah those 10 win seasons in the SEC are really starting to get boring.
April 14th, 2009
2:14 pm
"nearsighted about the SEC"… hmmmmmm maybe because this is a paper in the state of… GEORGIA?!?!?! There seems to be a biased towards Mark Richt on these blogs?!?!?!?! Weird! It's almost like this is a paper in the state of…GEORGIA!!!!!!!!
April 14th, 2009
2:07 pm
Lovethehate- You are absolutely right. You have to win 9-10 games because your schedule is 1-AA material. You don't get a whole lot of credit when you play 1 tough game a year.
April 14th, 2009
2:07 pm
I think it's very refreshing to hear about a top football prospect with academics on his mind. Depending on his future goals, any school would be a great choice. Certainly, UGA needs some better hands.
FYI UGA Graduate, "ALOT" is not a word. It is two words, "a lot".
April 14th, 2009
2:01 pm
One thing is certain in reading these comments. First, most know little or nothing about current developments in the football program as it applies to Notre Dame. Second, your vision is nearsighted as it applies to the SEC in general and the University of Georgia in particular (Interesting that you want to judge Coach Weis at N
D and haven't looked closely at Mark Richt's at UGA, particularly last season.). Third, most posters lack even the slightest objectivity when making comments. Good luck, Tai-ler in whhtever decision you make. Just remember, whatever decision you do make is not just for four years, but for 40years.
April 14th, 2009
1:50 pm
First and foremost, god bless you for hating on ND. It truly shows that ND is still relevant in UGA fans eyes. I see that big UGA education is really paying off. Half of you can't even spell Charlie WEIS name right, or maybe it's just the retardation that diseases the south.
Join a conference! Obviously some of you don't know it's easier for a conference champ with a record of 7-6 to get a BCS bowl bid while ND has to win 9 or 10 games to be even be consider. Thank you for proving you know little to none about football Mr. Unknown.
Sorry Grant, with ND schedule this year they will win 9 to 10 games. They return everybody that have lots of experience which is a big plus. Don't believe me, go check Vegas odds. Vegas gets it right more than the BCS does.
By all means, don't stop the negativity about ND. It gots us the #1 defensive player/Outside Linebacker in the country last year(Manti Te'o). Maybe the trend will keep going.