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|Let me start by saying that I am not picky at all about the type of fragrance, but I really like things that have a strong fragrance and if it is strong enough to waft around the garden I will especially love it. Last two disappointments were:
Phlox midnight candy. The fragrance was pleasant but so faint... then the poor little guy died anyways so maybe it killed itself off before I could toss it!
The second is my mirabilis longiflora, (Fairy trumpets 4 O'clock) the poor plant is so stragly and the flowers just don't smell strongly at all. I keep hoping that it will perk back up in the spring and will be robust and strong smelling yet, but I don't know. My other 4 o'clocks that are just run of the mill from seed are unstoppable.
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|Well there are many others that you can choose from and try.
Keeping a plant healthy ensures prolific flowering. The more flowers there are, the stronger the fragrance.
- Posted by robert1971 7a OK (My Page) on Tue, Jan 22, 13 at 14:31
|I have a notebook full of disappointments. ;)
Before I go into them I'm curious about your experience with Mirabilis longiflora.
I'm assuming you started one plant from seed?
I suppose there's the chance that the individual plant you grew from seed doesn't smell as strongly as others in that species.
Terrible news to hear really since I've always wanted to smell it (have the seeds but haven't gotten around to sprouting them yet).
You mention your regular four o'clocks (Mirabilis jalapa) flower profusely but you didn't mention your thoughts on their scent?
I always try to sniff them when I see them growing in gardens but have never been bowled over by their light scent.
Okay. Here are some of my disappointments:
Rondeletia splendens - Very light scent or no scent at all and when I could detect scent it smelled strangely like root beer/sassafras. Not worth the trouble.
Murraya paniculata - Strong scent however the scent didn't wow me. Seemed like a generic floral scent.
Hoya lacunosa - Smelled similar to Murraya.
Nicotiana alata - I like the scent however it's never been strong enough for me to justify growing it. Maybe if I grew more plants the scent might waft?
Jasminum nitidum - Gorgeous leaves and flowers however the clean soapy scent just wasn't strong enough for me.
Hemerocallis citrina - So far the scent has been light. They are young plants so maybe when more bloom at the same time I'll change my mind or maybe I'll try a different vendor for different plants. I could have received hybrids for all I know.
Hemerocallis dumortieri - The ones I got smelled like cat pee to me. Yuck! Again...who knows if I really got the correct species but they did look like images of that species I found online.
Brugmansia 'Cherub' and 'Baby Doll' - Again can't be certain I got the right variety but if so it didn't smell as strongly as my other favorite brugs. Might have needed to give them more time but I've only got so much space and resources. Sticking with 'Charles Grimaldi' and 'Betty Marshall' for now.
Passiflora mooreana - Strong scent however I didn't find it pleasant. Smelled sorta like grape soda to me. I'll stick with P. x belotii (alata-caerulea). This year I'm trying P. serratifolia but there are others I want to sniff eventually as well.
Hedychium 'Peach Delight' - Just didn't smell that strong to me. I'll stick with H. coronarium and 'Daniel Weeks' for now.
Plumeria 'Divine' - Too light of a scent. I want a plumie with tons of fragrance!
Okay...I've probably complained enough already. Laugh.
- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (My Page) on Tue, Jan 22, 13 at 20:06
|Robert, you just had to throw the Jasmine Nitidum in there..Ha..lol
Ok, if I am disappointed in its fragrance, what is a GREAT one you can recommend that is heavy and whaffs the air. That is what I really want! Thanks.
I would say...Hummmm, not quite sure yet, although I am was VERY disappointed with my Osmanthus this year. I couldn't smell a thing with all the flowers just to loose them in less than a week!
- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (My Page) on Tue, Jan 22, 13 at 20:07
|Robert, you just had to throw the Jasmine Nitidum in there..Ha..lol
Ok, if I am disappointed in its fragrance, what is a GREAT one you can recommend that is heavy and whaffs the air. That is what I really want! Thanks.
I would say...Hummmm, not quite sure yet, although I am was VERY disappointed with my Osmanthus this year. I couldn't smell a thing with all the flowers just to loose them in less than a week!
- Posted by robert1971 7a OK (My Page) on Wed, Jan 23, 13 at 9:10
You know it! ;)
The best wafting jasmines in my opinion are the sambacs. My personal fav is Jasminum sambac 'Belle of India'.
You should start a favorite wafting scent thread. :)
- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Wed, Jan 23, 13 at 11:19
|I've never been disappointed with a potted flower, but in the ground...
Convallaria - lily of the valley. What is the point of a flower that's at ground level when it's cold and icky outside?
Dianthus except cheddar pinks. Same as above but at least the "pinks" make such a profuse amount of blooms that a little nosegay can easily be picked to enjoy.
Yarrow - the rated G version of what I think of this plant is that is stinks like dirty socks and underwear.
Roses that have no scent. Chainsaw them all I say!
- Posted by meyermike_1micha 5 (My Page) on Wed, Jan 23, 13 at 11:50
|oH nO pURPLE!!!! dON'T LET JODIK SEE THAT ABOUT rOSES!! LOL
Oh, and you are so right about Lilly of the Vallies..!
|Well Purple - that's just mean...
sure, it's not a great treat to see a beautiful rose and not be able to appreciate the scent - but, it's still beautiful and NOT deserving of chainsaws.
But I will admit, when I buy roses (and I do treat myself regularly) - I only consider the 'bunches' that have scents worthy of being in a vase. :) If I'm paying for an indoor flower - it better offer more than a good view.
- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Sat, Jan 26, 13 at 10:07
|Awww, I wasn't serious. Of course the roses without scent are pretty, but just taking up space where a real rose could go...
|No wonder you're having problems with the two plants you mentioned. Neither will live up to their full potential where we live. Although both the Mirabilis longiflora and the Midnight Candy are zone 9 hardy neither like our Florida climate. They're both from mediterranean style climates. Our summer rain fall and high temps are horrible for them. That said I would suggest a plant that has the common name "chaya". Tall leafy plants that have an orange blossom type fragrance and edible leaves (have to be cooked first). Does very well here.
|Speaking of Murraya paniculata, I dislike the scent. It is NOTHING like the citrus blossom scent described by Logee's. It is more like French Jasmine with that musky/indolic overtone. Citrus blossoms do not have that musky note, not in my opinion.
I smelled a Ylang Ylang candle at Target the other day and it reminded me of the smell of Murraya paniculata.
- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Wed, Jun 5, 13 at 17:15
|Southern magnolia, M. grandiflora - smells like lemon pledge to me.
Stapelia - did NOT stink like carrion. (First potted disappointment, a place of honor I guess.)
This has happened to me a few times - you *think* Narcissus smells good outside, so you cut a few and put them in a vase inside. Then later realize the source of the "rotten" smell you're trying to track down is the silly flowers.
|Magnolia grandiflora does have lemon scent but I can also detect burnt rubber or the smell of those grey erasers among the lemon. Makes me wanna gag and its pretty intense too. Best not to sniff it up close. It's such a coarse, unrefined scent.
- Posted by robert1971 7a OK (My Page) on Wed, Jun 5, 13 at 22:19
|Ha! Magnolia grandiflora does have a weird funk to its scent but after all it evolved to attract beetles so I'm not surprised.
I don't mind all the haters. That just gives me more blooms to sniff. ;)
I've got lots of memories attached to this fragrance so that's probably a lot of my fondness for it.
Here's my latest fragrant disappointment-
|Hehe Robert. XD
I think that funky smell may occur in several other magnolias, I do notice a little tiny bit of it in M. virginiana, but its more tolerable there.
This reminds me--Clare_CA mentioned that she does not like the scent of M. champaca. I wonder if that funky note is part of the reason why she ranks it lower than M. alba. My mom did not like champaca either, she said alba is way better. I've yet to smell champaca though. ::
|I love m.grandiflora too, although I understand why a lot say it's not a fine scent. I don't know why, but it seems it evokes a lot of associations in a lot of people even if they didn't grow up with it, maybe it is that it looks so primitive ...For me it was a description (smth about the oily scent) that I read in il gattopardo after I had lived in genoa for some years where the city was full of enormous trees that made it one of my favourite memories ever!! I personally think it is a combination of lemons and leather..
- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Thu, Jun 6, 13 at 10:45
|It seems that men appreciate M. grandiflora much more than women, and more women object to its' scent than men. Anyone else notice a gender divide with this one?
I don't find it upsettingly unpleasant, (like privet,) just not something I'll sniff purposely again, unless it's one of those with a morphing fragrance as the flowers age. A yellowed Gardenia flower does not smell good anymore to me, too sickly sweet. It might be better wafting than up close... don't think I've been in such a spot, never got a waft from an individual tree.
- Posted by robert1971 7a OK (My Page) on Thu, Jun 6, 13 at 11:25
I still want to sniff M. champaca one of these days! And I really wish my darn M. alba would finally bloom! Laugh.
I've often wondered how you've sniffed Magnolia grandiflora before. At first I wondered if you're originally from the states but now I see it's been planted around the world. :)
Are you comparing us men to beetles? ;)
- Posted by purpleinopp 8b AL (My Page) on Thu, Jun 6, 13 at 15:18
|"Are you comparing us men to beetles?" Oh... no, never crossed my mind. I'm not one of those man-insulters, or insulter of anyone. Sorry for any unintended implication, and thanks for saying something so I could fix it.
Just extrapolating from the fact that men perceive some fragrances differently than women, and the aggregate of anecdotes here and in person, that this may be one of those gender divide fragrances. Don't recall reading anything about this one before in that way.
Nothing for or against either gender, good or bad either way, just something interesting to observe about nature.
This micro-subject is an ongoing, sporadic fascination that was originally sparked by a class in college where we were told of an experiment about this. Then years later I used to wholesale scented candles, so the curiosity was reignited.
...there are times when I know DH can smell the trash, sometimes his "oh really?" face doesn't quite make it. More research is probably needed... but I would never bash the person (or his entire gender) that I like enough to share my life, computer, heck I even let him drive my car sometimes. No women can say that. Smiles!
- Posted by robert1971 7a OK (My Page) on Thu, Jun 6, 13 at 15:26
|Ha! I'm just joking with you though I'm sure there's scientific evidence to back up such theories over differences in genders.
Personally I think eastern noses may be better at detecting scents than western noses but maybe it's just a cultural thing and they've got tons more awesome stuff blooming than we do so they're more accustomed to sniffing flowers. Laugh.
|Ok here is my list.
CA Sally Plumeria - while it has large beautiful flowers, they smell like arm pits or locker room to me. Eck! Something is clearly wrong with my nose! LOL
Banana Shrub - EXTREMELY fragrant but sickeningly sweet. Doesn't help that I don't like to eat/smell bananas. But the after note on this flower is like nail polish remover. Not a good combination.
Vietnamese Gardenia - so sorry Kemistry. But it smells very sweet like a cheap perfume.
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I received responses to the State of the Union address from two of the five Republicans running in the GOP primary fot the Third District Congressional seat now held by Democrat John Yarmuth. I'll update this post if I hear from any of the other three. Larry Hausman's and Todd Lally's statements follow.
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Louisville, KY – Third District Congressional candidate Larry Hausman continues his pledge to put principles over party in his response to President Barack Obama's State of the Union address. Free market principles and expanding our abilities to create our own energy resources are ideas that Hausman plans to support and he is heartened to hear this line of thinking from our President.
"When President Obama finds himself in line with conservative principles, as your next Congressman, I will be there to support him. Our country will be better off if he continues to move to the right," said Hausman. "The President suggested an investment tax credit and further developing our nuclear and clean coal ambitions as well as opening up the opportunity for off-shore drilling to reduce our dependency on foreign oil. These are ideas that John Yarmuth has not supported in the past even though they are good for Louisville and our country."
But the President's speech certainly missed the mark on several occasions. His jobs package takes too long and relies on frivolous improvements to our infrastructure.
"President Obama's jobs bill is essentially renaming the stimulus package. While it might sound impressive to build high-speed rail, is that really an investment in long-term job growth?" asked Hausman. "Instead we need to put people back to work by investing in small business through major tax deductions. When you give incentives across the board to encourage job-creating businesses, you help put all Americans back to work, not just those in the train business."
"However, leadership is more than pointing out the flaws of people you disagree with. In the coming weeks, I look forward to releasing a comprehensive jobs policy that will include a double tax deduction for any employer who hires new workers."
Moreover, President Obama seems to be tone deaf to the people's opposition to government-run healthcare.
"The President offered no new solutions to health care last night," said Hausman. "I am for free market health care reform, but John Yarmuth and Nancy Pelosi's desire for single payer coverage is not an option I am willing to consider. And according to recent elections, the majority of Americans feel the same way. Let's work on common-sense solutions like purchasing insurance across state lines, finding a solution for those with pre-existing conditions and comprehensive tort reform. We need to tweak the system, not rebuild it."
Statement from Todd Lally, Republican Candidate for Congress, 3rd Congressional District of Kentucky
The President got one thing right in his address last night, that Americans share a "stubborn resilience in the face of adversity." It is that resilience that will be, and has always been, the very thing that stimulates the growth of our economy. The President doesn't seem to understand that. After increasing our domestic spending by 66% last year, he now wants to lock these funds in place with a 'freeze'. It is shocking that while the President makes the appeal that "Washington needs to tighten its belt too," he proposes more spending in a new 'Jobs' bill.
You promised us jobs and they went away. You promised an end to the influence of lobbyists and we saw $2.5 billion of influence peddled in Washington. You promised bipartisanship, but let the minority get shut out of the policy process. You promised the bleeding would stop if we let you spend the money we didn't have, but millions more are unemployed. You promised to open the credit markets for small businesses, but the wells have remained rather dry.
All these promises were made last year, Mr. President. Our money has been misspent on choosing winners and losers, de facto governmental takeovers of banks and automotive companies, promoting policies under the influence of countless special interests, and pretending to create jobs while merely giving more temporary work to well-connected contractors and propping up favorable employer groups.
And last night, you promised to tighten the belt of Washington, but then proposed billions more in spending on a 'jobs bill'. In 2009, House Democrats passed $862 billion in "stimulus" spending, and don't forget the $347 billion in interest, two omnibus spending bills totaling more than $855 billion, and increased non-defense spending by 12 percent. According to the President's own estimates, his budget and spending plan will cause deficits to average $905 billion for each of the next ten years. Is this really tightening the belt?
Mr. President, the Recovery Act was your jobs bill, and your proposal to open small business credit was what it should have been doing all along. You still have much of the Stimulus money, so why are we talking about additional money to do what it has already been appropriated for?
Mr. President, with all haste, please feel free to insist that banks that have yet to repay their loans do so. But you cannot punish an industry for the actions of a few, nor can you punish them for taking money they didn't ask for, and in some cases tried to push away. This tax is nefarious and mean-spirited, targeting a group you have cultivated into an enemy of the people through distortions and lust for power. This attack on the banking industry will only hurt consumers, as banks pass down their costs to us.
If the government will provide the infra-structure, the hard-working people of these United State will forge ahead and create the jobs. We will then stimulate the economy ourselves and the "American Dream" will continue to hold the same meaning. We cannot allow the people in this country, that believe that they are "entitled", to strip from this great nation all of the character traits that make us the greatest nation in the world. Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Yarmuth have voted for all of the spending that has landed us where we are. Mr. President, Speaker Pelosi, Congressman Yarmuth it is time for this kind of out-of control, unchecked one-party rule to end.
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Andy's POV
"Guys, me and Soap are going out," I said, slipping on my shoes. "Ran out of tofu, so pick some up while we're gone."
"Uh huh. Yeah," Pete said, entranced by the TV screen. He and Joe were in a heated battle of DanceDanceRevolution. If you ask me, it looked like a pair of hyperactive monkeys were trying to mosh.
I slipped my hand into Sophie's and headed off the bus.
Trick's POV
"Hey Trick, could you grab me a bag of Doritos?" Joe asked, jumping around in front of the television. After 2 hours, he and Pete were still playing DDR.
I peeled myself off the couch and made my way toward the kitchen.
"Joe, we're out of food," I said, opening the pantry.
"What do you mean, 'out of food'? Like, out of the good stuff?"
"No, I mean 'out of food,' as in out of food. There's nothing left."
"You lie. There's gotta be something," he said, pausing the game.
"Oh, here's something." I picked up a can of beets and threw it towards him.
"What the fuck is a beet ?"
"It's a vegetable. Tastes pretty good."
Holding back laughter, Pete handed him a can opener. We sat back as Joe peeled back the top of the can. He grabbed a spoon and dug in.
"Ew, gross!" he said, spitting them out. "What the hell, Patrick?!"
Pete gave me a high five as Joe threw the can into the garbage.
"Looks like we need to go grocery shopping."
Within 15 minutes of arriving at Jewel, we had a cartful of junk food. Approaching the cereal aisle, "This Ain't A Scene" started playing over the store's speakers.
"Ay bay bay, let it play, that's mah song, turn it up!" Pete sang, excitedly.
"Who you think you are, walkin' all up in here singin' that Hurricane Chris?" asked a man in the aisle. He looked like Samuel L. Jackson, but even more intimidating.
"Umm... I'm Pete Wentz... From Fall Out Boy," he said, nervously. "...I wrote this song."
"This ain't a scene, it's a god damned arms race...
"Fall Out Boy?" he asked. "Wait, you guys worked with Kanye for the remix... and that one song with Timbaland."
"Yeah," Pete said, relieved. It looked like a ton of bricks was lifted from his shoulders.
"Aww, you my boy," the guy said, pulling Pete into a handshake-half-hug-shoulder-pat. "My kids love you guys."
He opened his wallet and pulled out a hundred dollar bill.
"Would you guys mind signing this for me?" he asked.
"Oh, no problem," Pete said taking the money and pulling a sharpie out of his pocket. After signing it, he passed it to Joe, who then passed it to me. I signed it, then handed it back to the guy.
"Thanks. I really appreciate it." he tucked the money back into his pocket and grabbed a box of Count Chocula before heading toward the frozen foods.
"Wow. Just... Wow," Joe said.
"When he called you out, the look on your face was priceless."
"I'm glad he was a fan," Pete said. "I t thought he was gonna kick my ass."
Pete grabbed some cereal and tossed it into the cart. Then he zoomed down the aisle, almost crashing into a display of tofu boxes.
"Oh yeah, Andy said to get some tofu," I remembered out loud.
"Which kind?" Pete asked, examining the boxes. "There's soft, firm and extra firm."
"Soft." I took a box and dropped it into the cart.
"What makes you so sure?" Joe asked.
"Well, Andy likes to cuddle. And he has soft skin."
"What the hell? We should get firm," he said, waving a box in front of me. "He has a firm mattress."
"You guys are both wrong," Pete commented. "We should get extra firm because he has an extra firm handshake."
Soap and Andy greeted us as we carried the groceries onto the bus.
"Didja pick up tofu?" Andy asked as we made our way toward the kitchen.
"Yeah," Joe said, handing him the bag.
"Sweet." He took the bag and pulled out the box of extra firm.
"We didn't know which one you wanted, so we got one of each."
"Extra firm?" He asked, puzzled. "This is the hardcore stuff. Lemme guess. Pete picked it out, right?"
Joe and I laughed as Pete looked down, feigning shame.
"Firm," Andy said, picking up another box.
"Ooh, that's my box!" Joe said.
"C'mon, I thought you knew me." He sighed, setting the box aside.
"Soft. Now here's the stuff."
"I told you guys he liked to cuddle!" I exclaimed.
Andy looked at me as if I'd grown a second head. "What?!"
"I'm not gonna ask..." Sophie said, chuckling.
Taking all three boxes, he walked over to the pantry and helped us restock it's shelves.
"Wait a second," he said, puzzled. "Where are my beets?"
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"Bring It" This Holiday Season with Tony Horton and P90X3
Written on December 12, 2013 at 3:27 pm , by Lauren Cardarelli
Shape up your 2014 slimdown in half the time—yes, seriously! The highly anticipated third installment of P90X is here so you can continue to "do your best and forget the rest," as fitness guru Tony Horton always says, in just 30 minutes.
Beachbody's new 90-day program cuts the killer 60-minute routines down without sacrificing intensity. "A lot of people were saving themselves during the first half to get through the second, so we thought, 'Let's eliminate all of that and sequence things just right," says Horton. "There's 16 workouts, four more than P90X and two more than P90X2. They're shorter; have a lot more variety with all new moves. It's not P90X shorter—it's brand new, on its own."
So what can you expect from the plateau-busting sweat sesh? For the first time, Horton introduces Pilates into the mix, as well as a separate warm-up/stretch DVD, Cold Start. "What I'm trying to do is introduce Pilates and yoga to men and more resistance training to women," he says. "Exercise science shows that if both sexes begin to understand how the other half lives, then they will ultimately be stronger, more flexible, leaner, more cardiovascularly fit and well-rounded. There's a little warm-up [in each routine], but we get right into it to jam-pack as much as we can." Who doesn't like the sound of that?
Horton's notorious muscle-confusion is also taken up a notch in X3 by introducing his breakthrough "Acceleration System" and different ways of approaching the program overall. "There's a lean option for people who want to burn more calories and do less resistance," explains Horton. Don't be fooled, though—this is not a graduate program. "It's for everybody and anybody that just wants to get in shape, maybe for the first time, and be able to sustain it."
With the holidays quickly approaching, P90X3 is the perfect gift for both yourself and fit friends looking for big changes in the new year. Just remember, your dream body won't happen over night, says Horton. But your results will be "off the chain" if you put in the time, eat right and stick with it long-term. "If your purpose and your plan are aligned, then it doesn't become this short-term goal of losing weight or shaping a body part to look good in clothing. Ultimately, the goal here is more of a bigger picture, focusing on the things that you can control today so you're more consistent."
What does the 55-year-old former stand-up comedian have on his resolutions list for 2014? "I'd like to hold a handstand for a minute—a free handstand without a wall," he says. Get this: He's held one for 59 seconds before – twice. So close! But setting achievable goals are the key to success, Horton advises, adding that 40 pull-ups in a row is another thing he's working on. "I've done 37. I think I was a monkey in a past life!" We'll stick with a goal of one…maybe two.
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Turn Fitness From Hobby to Career with Beachbody
Written on September 25, 2013 at 10:42 am , by FITNESS Intern
Written by Alena Hall, editorial intern
When watching your favorite workout DVD, do you ever look at the fit crew sweating it out behind the trainer and think, "I could totally be one of them?" Well Beachbody, the fitness company behind popular at-home workout programs like P90X, Insanity, Brazil Butt Lift and Hip Hop Abs, thinks you can, too.
The company has announced a nationwide casting call for the 2014 Beachbody Talent Team, aka the group of sculpted athletes you see sweating it out in the workout DVDs, infomercials and professional P90X and Insanity certification programs. They are inviting everyone (seriously, everyone) to audition for a spot on the team, and what better way is there to show off that summer beach body – and keep in tip-top shape for fall – than motivating others to get just as fit? Plus, you get to work out with the top trainers in-person and show them what you're made of.
All applicants must be certified in a Beachbody program including P90X, Insanity, Turbo Kick, PiYo Strength or Hip Hop Hustle, and be a member of Beachbody's VIP or Pro Team. For more information about the casting call, check out their website. Do you think you've got what it takes?
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Music Monday: Power Through Anything Playlist
Written on December 10, 2012 at 9:29 am , by FITNESS Intern
Written by Deanna Cioppa, editorial intern
Long-term home workouts like Insanity and P90X have been around for a few years now, but their appeal hasn't faded since they hit shelves. Interested in giving one a whirl? In Insanity, a fun, fast-paced diagnostic test is recommended to help determine your starting level so you can watch your progress soar over the next 60 days. And yes, you'll be repeating the test periodically to gauge how quickly your fitness level reaches rock star status. The test is plyometric madness (they call it Insanity for a reason!), but don't worry, we've got you covered.
Various studies prove that music can boost performance, so we've rounded up six of the strongest tunes to help you muscle through that 25-minute diagnostic test, ready for anything Shaun T throws at you. But if six just isn't enough, we've added four bonus tracks to keep you working hard for 40 sweat-dripping minutes. Now punch play and crank out those reps!
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where do i begin to potty train a boy, and at what age is good?
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he is 1 yr 2 weeks, is he to young to start potty training?
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My daughter turned 2 a few months ago. She started sitting on the potty for a little while and peed twice. Now I can't get her to even sit on it, she specifically says "diaper"....
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My kids are 11 months apart. My oldest is 20 months & youngest 9 months. I've been thinking about potty traing the older one, but I was think that if I wait I may be able to...
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I have noticed that a number of post on here are mums looking for help with potty training so thought I would create a place for mums to come and post their top tips. I hope...
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I think I want to potty train my 6 month old. Has anyone tried it and how successful were you?
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My son is gonna be 2 on the 17th and we started the potty time but is he to young?
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My son is about 2 years old. I feel like we should start potty training him but his dad thinks he is too young. We cant get my son to say when he needs to potty does he need to...
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My son will be 5 in feb and I can not get him to poop on the potty at all. I want him to start preschool next week and they said they would take him the first week but if he is...
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Goodbye Moldova
Yesterday morning I again awoke early, but at least this time I wasn't hungover from wine. All those city sounds from the hustle and bustle of Bulevardul Moscova filtered into the open window. For breakfast Kostea and I had bread with butter and Nanuca's dulceăță, which between you and me I left with him, as I didn't want to pay to check a bag just to bring home a kilogram jar of strawberry jam. I will say that it was delicious and had I otherwise needed a second bag, I would have surely brought it home.
At around 9:30 AM the four of us left to pick up my photos and lo and behold they were ready, which I'm thankful for. Nanuca is really waiting on a photo of her standing next to the gravestone of her friend Pasnuca's grandfather. She intends to mail it to Pasnuca's widow since there weren't any photos (apparently) taken of the monument since Pasnuca paid to have it installed. I also printed a handful of photos for her and Ana, which are of Ala, Sașa, and me (and Nanuca and Ana too).
Kostea, Ilya, and Yuta then drove me to the airport where we said our goodbyes as they dropped me off curbside. I'm not sure when I'll be back, but I'm confident that they'll receive me, so long as they're still in-country. By that time Yuta will quite a bit bigger and hopefully we'll be able to talk with one another, so long as either she learns a little English or Romanian or I finally knuckle down and learn some Russian. We will see!
A Romanian or Russian Speaker?
As an American who speaks conversational Romanian, it's both interesting and confusing to observe the language conflict between speakers of Russian and Romanian. I've observed that nearly all Moldovans speak Russian, while Russians typically do not speak Romanian. There are also many Moldovans who prefer to speak Russian, to further confuse things. Oh and Moldovans often make liberal use of Russian words in their speech, as well as colloquial words that are unique to Moldova. Good luck learning the language, right?!
As a rule of thumb, Russian is predominately spoken in the cities and in Gagauzia, a semi-autonomous region in the south of the country, which has historically been populated by Orthodox Christian Turks. I can't recall if the Gagauzians settled in present day Moldova before or after 1812, but that was the year that the Russian Empire wrestled control of the territory from the Ottoman Empire. It makes sense that the Gagauzians would readily adopt Russian since it has always been the lingua franca in Eastern Europe (sometimes to the dismay of whole nations of people).
It's always very passive, but the dynamic is that a Moldovan will usually respond in whichever language he is being spoken to, while a Russian will only speak Russian, either because he sincerely doesn't understand Romanian or because he'd prefer to speak Russian. In the latter case the motivation is is either one of pride or a fear of speaking Romanian poorly, which I can definitely empathize with. That said, I assume that the majority of Moldovans speak Russian with much less competence then a native speaker, although this varies village to village and family to family.
I always lead with Romanian, just because I don't know any better, but Kostea leads with Russian. This can lead to interesting interactions with Moldovans who assume that he only speaks Russian, even though he's an excellent Romanian speaker. It has been frustrating to me since I cannot contribute to the conversation if it's in Russian, even though I'm a competent Romanian speaker. I can think of two instances on Monday where I could have easily spoken Romanian, but did not because I wrongly assumed that Kostea was talking to a speaker of Russian only. I only knew better after hearing enough Romanian words slip through in discussion.
Back to Kostea's before an Afternoon Out
In about fifteen minutes I got off the rutieră by the Soviet-era Circus and hoofed it to Kostea's apartment. If I were smarter, I probably would have taken a trolleybus or a rutieră, but I couldn't definitively recall the numbers and I also didn't want to get crowded into another vehicle. I covered the several miles of distance with at least ten pounds of wine and dulceață in my otherwise heavy bag. It was hot and the sun was blazing, so I arrived to Kostea's apartment quite sweaty, just like the old times.
We had plăcintă for lunch and afterwards took a trip into the city so that I could print my plane ticket to Istanbul while also printing some photos for Nanuca. The first order of business was easily taken care of, but it proved difficult to find a proper place to print photos. It's expensive compared to a full color print on paper stock, so there are few places that actually print photos. Thankfully, we eventually found one in Centrul, across from the Primariă. It took us a half hour to get there and after handing over the digital photos, we were given an estimate of forty minutes to completion.
Ilya and Kostea then took me to the Art Market to buy some additional Soviet-era Moldova pins. I found seven that I didn't yet own and they cost me 5 lei each, which comes out to $0.0036, so not even a penny per pin. Kostea had warned me not to speak any English, so that we'd get the Moldovan price and not the price for tourists. This is a marked contrast from the fifty cents that I've paid in the past for pins on eBay, which to me is still really cheap. I'm sure the Ukrainians and Russians that I buy them from think that they're taking me for a ride, regardless.
It's sometimes much more difficult to complete tasks in Moldova than in America, for whatever reason. The photos were an example of this, since we returned an hour after dropping them off to learn that they weren't printed and that we'd then need to to wait an additional forty minutes. By this time, Yuta was a tired and hot baby, so we decided to head home. The clerk at the photo stall assured us that the photos would be ready by the next morning, but I was skeptical. I also didn't want to further inconvenience Kostea, especially since I was depending on him for a ride to the airport in the morning.
Early Morning Chiroște
For some reason, unknown to me, I awoke a little before 6:00 AM. I would have liked to have slept in, but I couldn't. I got out of bed, dressed myself, drank the remainder of my bottled water, and headed outside to use the outhouse. On my return I saw that Mama Elena was in the summer kitchen, so I walked over and joined her. As promised, she was making chiroște for my last meal at Vera's, which was totally unnecessary, but very much appreciated.
She had to work at 8:00 AM, so she had enough time to make the dough, the brânză filling, and then put it all together. At 7:30 AM she handed the work off to Vera, who had been awoken by the sound of the rolling pin on the counter. All that remained for Vera was to boil the chiroște. Mama Elena left for work before enjoying the fruit of her labor, while the rest of us ate the delicious breakfast she made for us. I was prepared to say my goodbyes, but she promised that she'd return around by 11:00 AM to send me off.
In the interim, I packed up my bag and then had the pleasure of watching a wedding video. If any other PCVs are reading this, you know that you've stayed too long when you find yourself watching a Moldovan wedding video. This particular video was three DVDs long, but luckily for me we fast forwarded through the dull parts, or at least the parts where we couldn't recognize any of the guests.
At 10:45 AM Mama Elena returned and sat down to enjoy the wedding video with us, but I had to get going soon. I bowed out at 11:00 AM and said my goodbyes. Sandu accompanied me down the hill to the bus stop and in minutes a rutieră arrived to take me to Chișinău. The rutieră was packed, just as I had hoped for!
Mama Elena, Bunica Vera, Alina, and Vera
Last Night in Ratuș
We got back to Ratuș in the late afternoon and Andrei again walked me home, in spite of my insistence that I could find my own way. I arrived in time to eat some plăcintă with Bunica Vera, who seemed to appear out of nowhere. I drank a couple more glasses of wine with her, which I probably shouldn't have done. I can't recall whose idea it was, but we had a photo shoot with Bunica Vera, Mama Elena, Vera, and Alina, after which I retired to my room to take a four hour nap. The life of a tourist in Moldova, right?
I awoke around 10:00 PM and found Mama Elena outside in the ogradă. She and I sat down on the front steps to chat and were joined shortly by Vera. It was much cooler outside since the sun had set. We sat together until nearly midnight and were even treated to fireworks from Porumbeni's Hram, which was a surprise ending to my last night in the village.
To Tamara's Dad's House
When Andrei and I arrived back in Ratuș we headed straight to his house and shortly thereafter found ourselves on the road to Drăsleceni to visit his grandfather. I got to sit in the back seat of Ghița and Tamara's truck, which brought me back to my Volunteer days. I've been inside and on top of that truck dozens of times, usually with Tamara behind the wheel. We even had the company of one of their dogs, who has gotten into the habit of joining them on their errands in the village. The ride to Drăsleceni was bumpy, but pleasurable.
During my initial week in the Peace Corps I accompanied the Spinu's to their grandpa's house, so it was very nice to see him again, especially now that I can speak, however stunted. We sat outside around a table, ate smoked fish, and drank white wine. I seldom spend afternoons like that at home, so it was a good respite. These are the moments that made it really worthwhile to visit.


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Ah yes…early July. And with it comes the heat and humidity that we've all come to know and love during this time of year. But what this part of the summer also mean is that we've officially reached the mid-point of the Thrashers' offseason.
Yup, three months ago they closed out the 2008-09 season by spanking the Tampa Bay Lightning 6-2 and three months from now the puck will drop on the tenth season of Atlanta Thrashers hockey.
Another item that comes with this time of year is that teams are shaping and forming their rosters via UFA signings and player trades. To that measure, Don Waddell has been a busy little camper lately in his role as Thrashers' GM. So let's take a quick moment to recap what has happened so far…and speculate on what may be in store for us between now and the start of training camp.
First off, back on June 8, the team announced that it had re-signed Marty Reasoner to a 2-year deal that would pay him $1.2 million this season and $1.1 the next…and the news was greeted with a great deal of approval.
Sure…it was almost a given that Waddell was going to be able to get the solid, hardworking and popular center back in Atlanta for another tour of duty given the fact that Marty had made his desire to return clear last spring. However, I do give Don props for the type of deal that was worked out. The length of the contract is about right…though some might say three years would have been better…but the price was right too. I was guessing Reasoner would go from $1 mil in salary to about one and a half per season. That's not a big difference mind you, but every little bit of savings in today's day and age is always a good thing.
Also inked to a deal was young blueliner Anssi Salmela…acquired last March from New Jersey for veteran defender Nic Havelid. In the few games he played here, he showed some very nice flashes of the type of play we could see from this kid in the coming years.
Oh, and remember that goal he scored against the Caps…sa-WEET!
Just a few weeks back came the surprising news that Waddell and the Thrashers had gotten Rick Dudley to come to Thrasherville as the new Associate General Manager. This, of course, was met with the speculation that maybe…just maybe…Dudley's future here would see him drop the "Associate" from in front of "GM" and Don Waddell would drop the "GM" from his title and focus full-time on the "Executive Vice President" title.
If that will indeed happen, only time will tell.
Then came the draft of June 26…and the selection of Evander Kane with the fourth overall pick. This too was a very popular move with the Thrasher faithful. However, the entire draft was a very successful one in my opinion. It seems as though some pretty good talent was injected into the system.
And the fact that not one of them registers even an inch below six feet tall doesn't hurt matters either.
But before the hype and chatter regarding the draft could even simmer down for a moment, UFA signing season was upon us…and the first two days of July brought with them even more good news from the Thrashers front.
On Wednesday, there was the trade that sent Garnet Exelby to Toronto in exchange for Kubina…a veteran defender but not too old. And even though a lot of fans were sad to see such a favorite of the Thrashers' community leave…it was a move that improved the team. And, to that matter, it was a good move for Toronto as well seeing that they got a serviceable defender in return and they were able to take the money saved to bring in Michael Komisarek.
So this was one of those deals in which both teams should benefit from.
And while we were still wide-eyed and had jaws agape about that deal…just the very next day we learned that Nik Antropov had agreed to a 4-year, $16 million deal to play in Atlanta. And, much like with Reasoner, Waddell was able to procure the forward for less than some might have thought it would take to do so given that Antropov reportedly was asking the Rangers for a 5-year contract that paid in excess of $5 million per season.
Personally the $5 mil price tag would be more than I would have paid for him, but the general consensus in these parts is that Waddell would have to "overpay" for any decent talent to sign here. But 4-years at $4 mil per really isn't really "overpaying"…is it.
So, given all that, what would I have to say about how this offseason has shaped up so far?
Nice…very nice indeed!
But there is still remains some work to do over the course of the next several weeks. To begin with, Colby Armstrong and Kari Lehtonen are still in need of contracts. But I look for these to happen sooner rather than later.
*EDIT: Shortly after posting this I learned that Army had elected to file for arbitration.
Oh…and let's not forget this Ilya Kovalchuk character that is slated to be a UFA in twelve months. Obviously, this is the big task on Don's "To-Do" list, and will remain so until it has been taken care of…whether this summer or during the course of the season.
So…what comes next?
Does Don tap into the goalie depth to bring in another top-line player to round out the squad?
And what about the buzz regarding Atlanta's interest in Alex Tanguay and Alex Kovalev? Does Don have another surprise in store for us?
Well…I guess we've got the second half of the offseason to find out.
July 5th, 2009
9:08 pm
First? Sorry, I'll never do that again.
July 5th, 2009
9:17 pm
So far, it's been pretty "okay." Better than that. It's been good. Better than usual. Not outstanding. But, it's still early. There could be trade movement even as late as October. So far, though, I'm not displeased. And me not being displeased … is actually a "step in the right direction." In the real sense. And not sayyyy, the gratuitious way that Bruce Levenson uses that turn of phrase.
July 5th, 2009
9:19 pm
Colby has filed for salary arbitration.
July 5th, 2009
9:30 pm
Hey Rawhide-next point of business should include locking up Kovy long term. This place (Thrasherland) will rock when we can duplicate what The Jackets did with Rick Nash.
I like what I see so far. I have already made my feeling know on vetaren help, so I'll get off that kick.
Dudley is a great hire; what a character person (great fighter as a player). I would like to know what plans they have for him in the future, maybe we will find out soon.
Gotta stay positive and hope ASG gives Don and Duds the $$$ to keep improving. We have alotta points to make up before we are a playoff team.
July 5th, 2009
9:43 pm
First of all: great blog my friend!
It's nice to read some trasher's fan point of view.
I agree with you, Atlanta is a better team with Antropov and Kubina and could
really get better if they get to put hands on Alex Tanguay or Alex Kovalev. I must
say I'm an HABS fan and I also hate to say that Tanguay is not going back with our
team so I wish for you that you'll land it in Atlanta, it would do a devastating combination with Kovalchuk and Antropov. A playmaker with a big centre and a sniper, wow! And you also have some great young players, I love your chances in the futur. What do you think of of new first line in montreal? Are we, in your opinion, a better team?
Finally I must say Kovalchuk is my favorite NHL player, the best sniper there is in our great game. Is sometime arrogant but is size, is speed and is shoot, wow! This guy has almost it all. May not be the best player in defense, but hey best defense is offense and and I'll comes to that when he touches the puck.
Will bookmark this one
July 5th, 2009
10:27 pm
Either of those two would be welcome additions here.
Also, another GREAT Job by The Iceman Himself,Mr. Bill Tiller !!!
July 5th, 2009
10:55 pm
I'd welcome Tanguay here in a heartbeat. However not Kovalev. He doesn't play inspired hockey every night, even in markets like New York and Montreal. I am sure he would take more nights off than on in Atlanta.
July 5th, 2009
10:57 pm
This summer is looking more like summer 2005. Remember Holik was the big signing and everyone thought DW was done. Then Bondra was signed out of nowhere. This time it's Kubina and Antropov. Deja vu maybe with a Tanguay or Kovalev signing out of nowhere?
July 5th, 2009
11:17 pm
Anything around that 2 million mark seems appropriate for Army. I wouldn't be surprised to see us come to terms before the hearing. Also, I've gotta agree with StateBird. Kovalev's attitude problems in Montreal last year kinda put me off on the idea of signing him.
July 6th, 2009
12:03 am
Rarely will you see words like these from me, however, the Thrashers need to be very careful with any more salary additions for the upcoming season.
Based on my salary estimates for the upcoming season, the Thrashers will be near 48 million. Yes, I know the cap is much higher for the 2009-2010 season; however, the cap should drop in the 2010-2011 season as I don't expect the economy to improve appreciably over the next 6 to 12 months. As a result, the cap could drop to around 50 to 52 million for the 2010-2011 season.
The Thrashers need to re-sign the following players for the 2010-2011 season: Kovalchuk, Little, and Peverley. Each should get a raise, and in the case of Little and Peverley, a considerable raise on a percentage basis. Therefore, less than judicious spending this offseason, could preclude the team's ability to re-sign Little and Peverley in the future.
The Thrashers need to build in a cushion for the potential salary cap drop in the 2010-2011 season and the re-signings of Kovalchuk, Little, and Peverley; otherise, the team may be forced to jettison someone in an inopportune manner.
The only salary "help" the Thrashers will have going into the 2010-2011 season is Kozlov's 3.66 million coming off the books.
Yes, I want the team to upgrade; but, I don't want to upgrade to such an extent that good young players are lost due to salary cap issues in the near future. A cushion this season may allow the Thrashers to keep their current nucleus of players intact and take advantage of teams with mega-salary cap issues in the 2010-2011 season.
July 6th, 2009
1:09 am
12th!! R.Stroz, don't forget Zhitnik! I think he is off the books next year too. Somewhere in the $1.2 range I think. Correct me if I'm wrong…
July 6th, 2009
1:41 am
I'd prefer Tanguay over Kovalev anytime, though I think Ilya would prefer the latter…
However, I think Tanguay is a pure 2nd/3rd-line LW, which means that we would have Kozlov's replacement already.
July 6th, 2009
1:43 am
BTW, where is it written that DW is interested in either of them?…Also, to sign either one of them, we would have to dump Lehtnonen's salary…
July 6th, 2009
2:18 am
Unless Ilya signs that contract extension I'm going to be giving Don and the Thrashers a "F" as his Mid-summer report progress.
Sign Kovy ASAP, do not let him start the season without signing that extension. I have a bad feeling once the season starts, if Ilya isn't signed and the team starts to peddle through mediocrity once again…his days as a Thrasher will be numbered. If that ever happens it'll be the biggest blow to this franchise since the Danny Heatly/Dan Snyder "gate"
July 6th, 2009
3:38 am
Kubina's 5 M comes off the books as well. That's a total of 9.9 coming off the cap number next year. Let's say we do rein in Tanguay: we would most likely make another move in which we trade Todd White to bring in that 3rd line PK specialist everyone seems to so dearly covet.
Doing so would likely be a net P/R savings of 1.4 to 1.6 M this year. Stroz' figure of 48 likely includes Lehtonen @ 3.5. Thus we'd only increase P/R to 51 M if we signed Tanguay at 4.5 (hopefully less) M per.
With the players mentioned above coming off the books next year we'd move back to 41 M before doling out an additional 3 M to Kovy, 2.5 to 3 M for Little and 2 M to Pevs if he can sustain his Top 6 favor.
But the point remains: it may not be prudent to bring anymore high-priced FA at this point unless its only for 1 or 2 years to give us flexibility for the future. We also need to keep in mind that Bogey and Kane could be due big raises in 2 and 3 yrs respectively.
Lastly, why the hell am I still awake??
July 6th, 2009
6:45 am
Saw this on the Bleacher Report: We signed Krog again and a goalie for Chicago. Why would we be signing a goalie unless something is going to happen.
Jason Krog, who played primarily on the Manitoba Moose last season, has departed the Canucks through free agency by signing a two-year deal worth $1.1 million with the Atlanta Thrashers.
This will be Krog's third tour of duty with the Atlanta Thrashers organization. He led the Thrashers farm team, the Chicago Wolves, to the Calder Cup in 2008.
Former Canuck goalie Drew MacIntyre has also signed with the Thrashers.
July 6th, 2009
7:11 am
Stroz -
I think Smoothie nailed it down pretty well…I think our cap situation is looking pretty good ATM…if we get Valabik, Slats, Army, and Lehtonen's contracts worked out soon then we would have our goalies, top 6 d-men, and top 10 forwards under contract. The remaining spots to be filled by Kane, Epso, or whomever the Thrash decide to sign.
Kubina, Hedberg, Kozzy, and Boulton all come off the books next summer, which would free up about 10 million in cap room to play with, which could surely be distributed amongst Kovy's extension, and the new contracts of Little and Pevs with money to spare.
Does anyone know what the rookie pay scale is? I forget if it changes from year to year, etc. I suppose what I'm really asking is what would Kane's cap hit be if he stuck the whole season as opposed to playing for a few weeks then being sent back to Juniors?
July 6th, 2009
7:15 am
Tom — To be more accurate, Atlanta has apparently signed two AHL caliber goalies…MacIntyre and Peter Mannino. Both are likely to replace Dan Turple and Brent Krahn in Chicago, now that Krahn is signed with Dallas and Turple has not been tendered an offer.
It appears that they are creating goalie depth in anticipation of a goalie move, but it's very possible this depth is being created proactively because a trade might not happen until later in the offseason. Either way, it appears that Pavelec will be spending less time in Chicago this season with the signing of these two goalies.
July 6th, 2009
7:24 am
Why Krog ? We have other more important priorities to deal with…
July 6th, 2009
7:31 am
I'm with Tom on this, Drew MacIntyre signing would have Krahn and he in Chicago to split duties, this leads me to believe Pavs or Lehts is going to be sent off soon…Heck, send Pavs and Valabik for the rights to Jack Johnson, doesn't look like he's signing with LA anytime soon. Could always use more defense.
Any rumors surrounding possible trade destinations? I saw a package going to Philly for awhile with James van Riemsdyk heading to Atlanta, but Philly has since signed Ray Emery and brought back Boucher. At this point what teams are most in need of young goaltending?
July 6th, 2009
7:50 am
LAC-just more career minor leaguers when we should be focusing on proven players for the big club. I promised I would get off this soap box, but I could not resist.
July 6th, 2009
7:51 am
Josh-what we have to spare is better than Boucher or Emery the head case.
July 6th, 2009
7:52 am
ranallo – Do you think Krahn will start the season in Dallas? That would certainly make the McIntyre move seem more like plugging organizational holes than anything.
July 6th, 2009
7:57 am
Josh — As I said in my response, Krahn is with the Dallas organization now.
World Be Free — It's rather obvious he was signed for AHL depth…what's the concern? Are you assuming that by signing Krog (yet to be announced by Chicago or Atlanta) Atlanta is unable to sign "proven players for the big club"? Emery has lead his team to a Stanley Cup, which is much more to say than anything Lehtonen or Pavelec have done as of yet. I'd personally rather Lehtonen over those three, but Emery is no slouch simply because he has an attitude. Besides, how well did Ottawa fare without him?
July 6th, 2009
8:02 am
Josh — Sorry, didn't see your second post before I made mine. I have no idea what Dallas' goal is for Krahn, but I highly doubt he will spend much time (if any) with the NHL club. MacIntyre appears to me to be a starting AHL player, where as Mannino seems to be a purely depth move (he has 3 unspectacular NHL games under his belt, all with the Islanders).
From the outside it looks like:
Atlanta goalies = Lehtonen/Pavelec, Hedberg
Chicago goalies = MacIntyre, Mannino
I find it hard to believe they'd bring in two AHL veteran goalies if they're going to keep Pavelec in Chicago for further development.
July 6th, 2009
8:10 am
WBF – Hehe that may be the case but I would think Philly isn't in a position to add more salary unless they dump someone off, like Gagne for example…I think they're pretty close to the cap. If they begin the season and Emery struggles…well…
Let's give Krog his props, he put up monster numbers in the AHL the past two seasons…how strange/sad to think that this is his third stop with the Thrash.
July 6th, 2009
8:46 am
I would be very interested in finding out what it would take to get Jack Johnson here.
July 6th, 2009
9:01 am
I do not understand all the hype about the Thrashers goaltending strength. Pavelic has proven nothing. Lehts is an NHL number one goalie,, but at the bottom half until he develops consistency. There are quite a few more proven goalies available like Cory Schneider in Vancouver that have proven much more than Pavelic. For the Thrashers to rely on Pavelic as their goaltender without Lehts would be a huge mistake. Hedberg is an OK backup but offers little trade value. I just do not see goaltending as a position of strength that the Thrasher's can use to trade for a top six forward or a quality defenseman.
July 6th, 2009
9:19 am
atldave – I'm actually in slight agreement with you on this one. Pavs is an unproven commodity, but he's still a great goalie prospect that other teams do value. If I had my choice I would not dump Lehtonen as he has shown flashes of greatness and as you stated has atleast proven that he is a legit #1 in this league, albeit injury-prone.
I'm not sure what we could get in return for Pavs or a package surrounding him but I don't think it's a ridiculous thought to think a team would give up a good player for him, even if salary might be the biggest motivating factor. That is why when I was referring to the potential deal with Philly that we would need to add more than just Pavs to get something done. At this point I'm not sure what his value is, but it's not a stretch to say that he is one of the top 5 or 6 goaltending prospects in the NHL.
July 6th, 2009
9:32 am
atldave – players with unmet potential or who have yet played a single game in the NHL are traded all of the time. Look no further than who was shipped off when Lindros wouldn't sign with Quebec (Lindros, Ricci, Duschene, Forsberg). Pavelec has done little here, that is certainly true, but a guy of his size and quickness could do well at the NHL level with the proper coaching. As we have stated ad nauseum in the past, the Thrashers employ no such coach and the goaltending suffers as a result.
Still feel that this is a strength of the team – so you re-sign Kari (and get him a coach), keep Moose one more season and offer Ondrej and a second rounder next year and the year after for Kessel and see if Boston takes the bait. Toronto has little to offer us other than high draft picks, but may take a chance on Pavalec as they just hired butterfly guru Francois Allaire away from Anaheim. This could be a project for them. We sign a veteran backup for 2 seasons as Pasquale develops (that gives him 3 seasons total). Thankfully – Turple is gone. He was brutal.
Sign Tanguay – forget the head case Kovalev. See if playing on an up tempo team can revive his career back to the 80 point plateau. It is certainly worth at least a one year contract to see if it works. Make sure it is in the contract that his cousin Celine Dion is barred from entering the state of Georgia.
July 6th, 2009
9:40 am
According to Hockey's Future, Pavelec is the 6th ranked NHL goalie prospect. Here's the order:
Tuuka Rask (Boston)
Cory Schneider (Vancouver)
Jhonas Enroth (Buffalo)
Chet Pickard (Nashville)
Jonathan Bernier (Los Angeles)
Ondrej Pavelec
Overall Pavelec is the 27th ranked prospect by Hockey's Future.
July 6th, 2009
9:46 am
part of Kari's inconsistencies are due to poor conditioning, bad defense and hangovers, with the addition of Kubina and an intervention for Kari's drinking problems, the Thrashers will make the playoffs.
July 6th, 2009
9:53 am
While poor conditioning was certainly a issue in the past, I think that has been rectified. The bad defense – that's a given…he's been hung out to dry by a non-existant defense more times than I care to think about. The drinking / hangovers – you have any proof of this before you throw a guy under the bus with an accusation like this?
July 6th, 2009
10:06 am
proof? who needs it anymore. I read on this blog, more than once about Kari's partying. How old is the guy? Aint he single? Oooops, there is your proof. The thing is, I like Kari, I think he is/will be a great goaltender. But facing 35 to 40 shots a nite is to much for any goaltender. Would MB be where he is at if had been in Atl. for the past 10 years…no way. On to another subject. Just read Mark Bradleys piece on Atl's sports teams. Thrashers are 108, Johns A. gets highest mark, 81 st as coach. There is a picture of him behind the bench in the article. Look over his left shoulder, thats the beautiful lady that I mention every now and then in my insightful, knowledgable, fact based blogs.
July 6th, 2009
10:12 am
Sign Lehts, Trade Pav. Lehts at least wants to be here. He loves the city and made his home here. Now that he HOPEFULLY won't have swiss cheese in front of him this year, maybe he won't have to face 50 shots a night. Lets see what he can do with a defense. He is still very young and has shown flashes of brilliance. Pavs showed that the NHL lights are very bright even in a dim place such as Atlanta. Trade him while he still has value. Or keep him and trade Hedberg.
July 6th, 2009
10:15 am
I'm with you Buz, remember Kari's first 4 games? What did Pav's first 4 look like?
July 6th, 2009
10:16 am
Ok, now – talking about hittin' the bottle! Little early for that, isn't it?
Buzilla – just don't think Moose has any trade value at all. I'd like to keep him here and get him to sign on as the goalie coach at the end of next season.
July 6th, 2009
10:33 am
Moose has almost no trade value he has been one of the worst goalies in the NHL for the last 3 years. So to get rid of him Don will need to package him with another player or buy out his contract.
But with moose gone the team gets better Pav can develop as a backup not try to be a starter right away. Kari gives them a chance to win this year and until Pav proves he can handle the number one job or not. So one way or the other moose needs to go.
July 6th, 2009
10:37 am
I agree with you, there is enough depth in "mature" goaltenders out there that it would be hard to move Moose. Everyone in the NHL knows his strengths and weaknesses.
But there is potential upside for Lehtonin and Pavs. People always want to buy hope and will typically overpay for it. With the filling of the minors it can be expected that one of these 2 will be gone shortly.
If, and it is a big if, Waddell makes a great move to get another Top 6 forward by trading a goalie and a defenseman, we could have a hell of a team, and take the pressure off of Espo and Kane to come in to make a difference. And if one of these guys can make an impact, it is a bonus.
That is how you grow a franchise and a player.
July 6th, 2009
10:40 am
Yeah I don't think anything can be gained by trading Moose. He's off the books next year and as it has been stated, free to join the coaching staff in some capacity.
I have been reading about Kovalev to Atlanta rumors…is it just me or am I the only one who doesn't want to see us sign an old inconsistant wing…at least Antropov is young. Sign Tanguay!
July 6th, 2009
10:54 am
If we sign Kovalev, we have another top 6 forward. Then I would try to trade Hedberg (for some picks) and let Pavs and Leht fight it out. Sign Lehts and Pavs to two year deals. When Lehts wins out, at the trade deadline, we package Pavs and White to get what we need for the playoffs (along with a backup goalie with experience…maybe Hedberg back…that would be pretty stupid huh?)
Thrasher Predictions:
Little scores another 30 goals but gets 40 assists
Peverly has a breakout season and has 70 points
White fades big time; we trade him to make room for Espesito
Boris and Mandy Sutton get into a great fight (Mandy has to get a hysterectomy afterwards)
Kovy signs before the start of the season right after Kovalev signs
Kovy wins the Richard
Thrashers get into the playoffs; get Rangers in the first round and Thrashers sweep (Andro has 10 pts in 4 games)
Team gets sold Lil John; Changes team name to the Atlanta Crunks. Gold mouth guards are strickly enforced by the new management. Team bus now has hydrolics so it can rock the three wheel motion.
Other Hockey predictions:
Sedin twins demand trade to different after they both sleep with same
Crosby gets busted for steriods (turns out he didn't want to get bigger, he just wanted to be able to grow decent facial hair)
Gary Bettman steps down to open a bagel store
July 6th, 2009
10:56 am
Sedin twins demand trade to different teams after they both sleep with same
July 6th, 2009
11:06 am
I'm not in favor of DW doing any more trades unless it's getting rid of dead weight or an upgrade for a 1-2 line RW. With the dead weight I don't believe we have as much as we have in the past, who would you like to see gone at this point. As Brenden would say "I'd rather see someone signed that wants to play here than a trade for someone who will be looking for the 1st ticket out of ATL."
I have always liked Tanguay but do we need another LW right now? Maybe next year but now?
With Kovalev I don't think we can afford him at his age. While he may be a good performer with payoff experience I don't think he'll take less that 4 mil, and he deserves at least that or more.
At RW Maxim Afinogenov is 29 and had an off year last year and wants out of Buffalo. Based on last years performance and his injury problems I think he could be had for 2 mil plus incentives. A change of scenery may do him wonders. Ales Kotalik is another RW we could look at that could be signed for under 3 mil. If you want to go with a more experienced guy what about Sykora?
July 6th, 2009
11:09 am
Hey Buzilla – can one of the Sedins go to the Rangers, only to find out later the mystery woman is Elisha Cuthbert?
July 6th, 2009
11:14 am
would that be sloppy thirds?
July 6th, 2009
11:15 am
I am still waiting for Jack Bauer to put a bullet into Avery after that. That's his daughter man!
July 6th, 2009
11:17 am
Shoot, I witnessed Olympic Speed Skaters chuggin' beer the night before a race!!! Sports figures not drinking??? Cmon now.