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Great shirt, exactly as pic. Fabric is great. I wear US m/l so I went with xxl but I think I could've gone with xl as well. Purchased the blue. I think I will purchase other colors as well.
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Tiene un color muy bonito
I have already ordered it. Blue love :)
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Individuals of any age can develop skin cancer even through the risk of developing cancer increases as people age. Research shows that the average age of diagnosis of skin cancer, particularly melanoma, is approximately 60 years, with the lowest rate, approximately 0.7%, occurring in people under the age of 20.1
The good news for parents is that skin cancer is relatively rare in children, although it can and does occur. Often children that are born with congenital moles, especially large moles or birthmarks along with atypical moles are much more likely to develop skin cancer than children that develop normal moles after birth. In addition any moles on children that swell, change in shape or size or that bleed or scab need to be examined by a dermatologist or oncologist immediately to provide the earliest possible diagnosis and treatment.2
Risk Factors
Children have the same risk factors for developing skin cancers, including melanoma, as adults. This includes both genetic and environmental factors. Parents that have large numbers of moles, atypical moles or a history of melanoma or skin cancer in their family need to be particularly attentive to any moles or skin irregularities in their children.
A condition known as FAMMM or familial atypical multiple mole-melanoma is found within families. Typically members of these families have light skin, light or red hair and a significant number of moles and freckles. This condition is most common in white people but can also occur in difficult ethnic groups. It is least common in those families that are from African and Asian ethnic backgrounds.3
Children that are using immunosuppressant drugs due to a transplant or those that are receiving radiation treatments due to another cancer diagnosis are at greater risk for developing skin cancers than children of any age that are not on these drug therapies. Parents need to speak to their doctors, dermatologists and oncologists to understand the early signs of skin cancers because of these very specific types of medical treatments and drug therapies.
Sun exposure can contribute very early in life to the chances of a child developing basal or squamous cell carcinoma or melanoma. The more unprotected skin is exposed to sun and is damaged by the UV radiation the greater the chance of skin cancer later in life. In addition deep or significant burns, which are typically on the back, arms, face and legs are also major factors in cellular damage to the skin.
Parents should actively work to educate children about the importance of avoiding direct exposure to sunlight. Wearing a high SPF sunscreen, ideally over 30 SPF is a good start in preventing this damage. For very fair skinned children wearing long sleeves and long pants and avoiding long periods of outdoor time at the hottest part of the day can also be important education for parents to consider.
The Appearance of Moles
Parents often become concerned when a child starts to develop moles on his or her body. However, moles that are normal in shape, size, number and color are not problematic and are not an indicator of skin cancer. Moles that are atypical are of concern and should be carefully monitored.
As with adult skin the indicators of an atypical mole in a child include the ABCDs. This is the asymmetry of the mole, the borders, the color and the diameter. The mole should be circular or oval in shape and not asymmetrical. The borders should be clear and defined, not blurred or jagged in shape. In addition the color should be uniform throughout the mole and the diameter should be less than 5 millimeters, about the size of a pencil eraser.
It is not uncommon for children to develop moles as they grow and this process can continue until the child reaches adulthood at about the age of 20. Approximately one percent, so a very small number, of children are born with moles.4 These moles should be normal in the ABCD factors and, if any changes in the mole are noted, a dermatologist should be consulted.
There are some children that are born with excessively large moles, which are known as giant congenital nevus. These are often larger than 8 inches in diameter and may increase a child's risk of developing melanoma by as much as 10%. These moles may become very thick and have a large number of hairs protruding from the surface of the skin. It is essential to carefully monitor these moles and ensure that the child has regular appointments with a dermatologist to detect the earliest signs of melanoma.5
Treatment of Childhood Skin Cancers
Childhood skin cancers including melanomas and nonmelanoma cancers are treated with the same methods used in adults. Small atypical moles or areas of the skin that are diagnosed with basal or squamous cell carcinomas can often be treated in a doctor's office without the need for hospitalization or invasive surgical procedures. Early diagnosis is the key in ensuring that the cancer is contained and removed from the body before it spreads or moves into deeper layers of the skin.
Small mole areas or cancerous portions of skin can also be removed using a cryosurgery technique that includes the use of liquid nitrogen. This is also a simple procedure that is typically completed in a dermatologist's office. More complex surgical procedures including Mohs surgery or laser therapy can be indicated if the skin cancer is deeper, larger or is reoccurring.6
1 SEER Stat Fact Sheets: Melanoma of the Skin. (2011). Retrieved from National Cancer Institute: seer.cancer.gov/statfacts/html/melan.html
2 Skin Cancer Disease Information. (n.d.). Retrieved from Children's Hopsital Boston: www.childrenshospital.org/az/Site1603/mainpageS1603P1.html
3 Moles: Who gets and types. (n.d.). Retrieved from American Academy of Dermatology: www.aad.org/skin-conditions/dermatology-a-to-z/moles/who-gets-types
4 Moles in Children: What Parents Should Know. (n.d.). Retrieved from SkinCancerNet: www.skincarephysicians.com/skincancernet/moles_children.html
5 Giant Congenital Nevus. (n.d.). PubMed Health.Retrieved from PubMed Health: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002424/
6 Skin Cancer: Treatments And Drugs. (n.d.). Retrieved from Mayo Clinic: www.mayoclinic.com/health/skin-cancer/DS00190/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs


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KNOXVILLE (WATE) – Across the country, those for and against gay marriage made their voices heard. In East Tennessee, there were rallies held by both sides Tuesday evening.
In Knoxville, a large group gathered in Krutch Park. They sang while holding candles and signs in support of same-sex unions.
"I've been with my partner Teresa for five years and we're raising three girls together. Our family and friends accept us and it's time for the government to accept us," explained Deanna Cate, attending with her partner.
She says being in a union that isn't recognized by law makes it tough to raise a family.
"We are to the point that if one of us gets sick, or anything to do with our monies, our home, there's nobody to back us up," Cate said.
Close to two hours away in Jamestown, this issue is also about family to people like Andrea Adams.
She helped organize a prayer rally opposing gay marriage in Fentress County.
"I have five children, and one day, God willing, I'll be a grandparent. My fear for my society and my children is that they won't know the absolute truth. There're going to be calamity in our nation," Adams explained.
To Adams, and others at the prayer rally, it's about the negative impact not following scripture will have on future generations.
"Anytime we veer away from God's will, there are going to be consequences," she added.
For Deanna Cate though, it's about equality, for her, and her family.
"I should be allowed to sign that contract. That's what marriage is. The church is the social aspect of it. The contract is the legal aspect of it. I shouldn't be denied this because of who I am," Cate said.
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I have a friend that started homeschooling last year and loved it so much she has pulled her other child from school to homeschool as well.
She's using the Georgia Cyber Academy (which starts back today) and overall was very happy with the program. Her child excelled and will be taking even more challenging classes this year. Both mother and child enjoyed the time and the program so much that the other child wanted to stay home too.
But despite that great experience, my friend is worried about seeing her old mom friends from school and having to defend her choice.
She asked me last week, "What do I tell them?" I said, "You tell them your child excelled and you both enjoyed it so much that you're adding your other child to your home classroom."
I do think that homeschooling mothers get asked a lot of questions about why they are doing it and what materials they are using. I know I quizzed a high-school friend who homeschools about her program this summer. I didn't mean my questions judgmentally. I was just curious, but I hope she took it that way and I didn't offend her.
If you are homeschooling, do you find yourself answering lots of questions about why and how you are doing it? Do you feel on the defensive about your choice or do you think people are just curious? Do feel like you can be an advocate for homeschooling by answering other parents' questions?
As a parent with children in a school, do you ask questions when you meet homeschooling parents? Are you judging them or are you just curious?
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August 15th, 2011
12:45 pm
I do not believe in homeschooling. I think it's an incredibly selfish thing to do for your kids. They need to be socialized and out with their peers.
I believe it is a paranoid mom who choses to keep her children at home.
August 15th, 2011
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August 15th, 2011
1:00 pm
Of course kids need to be socialized, but is traditional And there are homeschooling groups that arrange group activities for kids too, right? I hear people complain more and more about silent lunches/class changes and recess being cut — makes me wonder how much socialization some schools allow and if it is indeed more than homeschoolers get.
August 15th, 2011
1:02 pm
Whoa — the middle of my post vanished. Should have been: Of course kids need to be socialized, but is traditional school the only way to provide that?
August 15th, 2011
1:16 pm
Thank you for this timely topic.
I am a homeschooling mom to a 2nd grader and kindergartener. I do not think it's selfish nor do I feel the need to defend our choice to homeschool. My husband and I made the decision to homeschool long before we had our children simply because the public school system s**ks. Bullying, overcrowded classrooms, the emphasis on testing, etc was enough for me to know that I did not want my children trying to learn in that type of environment. I understand that not ALL public (and private) schools have these issues. The question in our minds was, "do we want our children to be like their peers or do we want our children to rise above them?" The answer for us was homeschooling. As homeschooling parents, my husband and I enjoy the freedom to select an appropriate curriculum and teach beyond what they would learn in a traditional classroom.
As far as socialization, my daughter is enrolled in a weekly ballet class, takes swimming lessons, and will begin taking tennis lessons. My son is also takes swimming lessons and we are getting him involved in football. We are actively involved in a homeschool support group which has children in ages ranges from preschool through high school. Our homeschool support group plans a number of activities throughout the year as well as co-op classes.
I am not a paranoid mother—just one who wants to provide a quality education and has the means to do so without subjecting my children to the distractions that are often present in public school. By the way, the Georgia Cyber Academy IS NOT homeschooling. They are an online public school. I tried doing the cyber academy with my daughter two years ago but due to the lack of flexibility with the curriculum and the fact that we had to log-in every time we completed her school work we decided to withdraw her less than month after we started. It didn't work for us.
August 15th, 2011
1:17 pm
Socialization happens less and less inside traditional public schools everyday. Many parents are choosing to homeschool to allow their children to advance without waiting on their peers. Most socialization nowadays happens outside school, so there is no real issue at least in my experience. i hope that homeschool parents don't feel that way, but I'm far more open to the practice than a lot of people out there.
August 15th, 2011
1:42 pm
Augusta, obviously you are not very educated about homeschooling. I hardly ever hear anyone mention the socialization issue anymore. There are over 40,000 homeschooled children in Georgia. These are no longer the isolated children that everyone used to think of.
My children are socialized, with neighbors, in activities, with cousins, at the pool, with other homeschoolers. Many kids are very involved in youth groups and church activities. Possibilities for socialization are endless. And why would we ever think that the only way to socialize is with same age peers? My 10 yr old hangs out with his 16 yr old cousin as well as he plays with his friend's 7 yr old brother. Homeschooled kids are, by far, the most socialized of any kids I've ever met.
Now they could go to my local school that is at least 75 percent free lunch and they could "socialize" with the boy who's mother is on meth and the girl who's father is serving time for armed robbery but, I care too much for them to expose them to that. Is that "paranoid" or just good parenting? Not that they would be able to talk to those children anyway with no recess and silent lunches and bus rides.
And…ditto everything Ohio Muffin said.
I don't feel like I have to defend my choice to those closest to me. I never have been able to successfully link up with a homeschool group so, most of our friends are in public/private school. I have very good conversations with these parents about the pros and cons of both. It's kind of like the working mom thing. You have to find what is best for you. We planned originally to do private school, but, once we started doing the math, decided, we'd rather retire one day and save for college. I used to hate that we lived in a bad school district. Now I am so thankful becaused it "forced" me to homeschool and I couldn't be happier. And I don't mind anyone asking me about my choice. Obviously, I can go on and on and on. :-)
August 15th, 2011
1:49 pm
I have some questions for those who home school: Do you work too or are you SAHMs? Just wondering if it's possible to juggle both a full time job and homeschooling. How much of your day is devoted to school work?
August 15th, 2011
2:11 pm
Augusta is obviously not interested in the empirical evidence showing that the "socialization issue" is not an issue at all.
August 15th, 2011
2:16 pm
There isn't much in the way of diversity of thought in my household. I like that my children are being educated by people with varying perspectives of the world. I also think it benefits children team building skills cooperative tools to have to work on projects with people with varying backgrounds, gifts, and levels of skill and intelligence.
I can't speak to how homeschooling addresses these issues as I don't have much experience with it, but these would be my concerns.
August 15th, 2011
2:17 pm
And don't claim empircal evidence without sourced data please….that's unrelated to this conversation just a statisticians pet peeve.
August 15th, 2011
2:20 pm
I feel that way and I hope as more and more people homeschool it will be more understood. It amazes me that I hear people moan all day about that state of education in the US, but then can't understand why someone might want to try homeschooling as an option. It is not an attack on anyone else's school choices, just another option that works for some families. Choice is something to be thankful for. I dont think homeschool is for everyone, but for a lot of people it works great.
I began homeschooling, like a poster above, because we live in a bad district. I wasn't sure about it and began with a lot of fear. Now, starting my 3rd year, I love it. I do not think one realizes how much traditional school forces you to make your family decisions around their schedule until you are free to do so on your own. We vacation when we want, my kids get to sleep as long as their bodies need to, and we decide what opportunities and methods of teaching work best for our family. We have been on some amazing trips and behind the scene tours that we never would have done if my kids weren't homeschooled. We are a 'hybrid' homeschooling family that takes advantage of some of the NUMEROUS opportunities that exist for homeschoolers now, and my kids have a full schedule most days. The homeschooling friends that they have made are true friendships, made from spending hours together on field trips, activities or outings, with lots of time to just be together.
I hate how many negative stereotypes there are. Homeschool kids are kids just like everyone else- some smart, some shy, some gifted, some not. For every flaw in a homeschool kid- I could point out a public schooled kid that has a flaw as well. For me, it is a gift that for now, my kids are getting to discover who they are without being put down for who that may be and becoming dependant on their peers for approval.
August 15th, 2011
2:24 pm
Lady Strange…
Yes, I do work a part-time job teaching at Clayton State University. I teach one day week and I am also in school seeking my second master's degree. Following that I will continue on for my Ph.D. and yes, I will be homeschooling. For me it's possible to do it all because of my tremendous support system and also, I am very organized. I consider myself a SAHM and work in a profession that allows me the flexibility to be at home with my children.
Our day starts early. We get up at 6:30 for breakfast, followed by chores and getting dressed. From 7:30 am-11:00 am we are doing school work. My children do take breaks. Since my son is in kindergarten I am focusing on teaching him phonics, writing, and math. We finish pretty quickly with him. My daughter works on math, grammar, spelling, reading, history, writing, and science. We do science and history twice a week. Also, she will do school work in the afternoon if she doesn't finish it all in the morning. I am going beyond the minimum standards set forth by the Georgia Department of Education in each subject area. Her "social" activities are done on the weekends.
August 15th, 2011
2:30 pm
Ohio Muffin~you need to check your spelling~kindergartener should be spelled Kindergartner
August 15th, 2011
2:35 pm
We're in our 3rd year of homeschooling. Many, many different reasons why we decided to pull the kids out of public school and teach at home, but the gist of it was that they were not doing well and needed more specialized attention. No, this was not to baby them but to give them a more personalized education. I actually held my 1st grader back this year when she thought she would be heading into 2nd because she just didn't do well enough the first time around. I'm a SAHM but this is the hardest job I ever have done. I don't know how anyone could say this is a selfish thing to do! You don't realize everything that goes into it. Two of my children are special needs as well so that takes a lot of tailoring also.
I don't feel the need to justify our schooling decision to anyone, although I have gotten the impression that what we do isn't "real" school. Maybe that was just me though. We're actually trying something new this year with an online charter school. I'm still doing as much work as before but I have more backup with their other teachers. And as far as socialization, I echo what others have stated that it isn't as much of an issue anymore. We belong to a homeschool group and go on field trips, etc. They have friends they spend time with and church groups too. It's what you make of it.
August 15th, 2011
2:36 pm
Thanks no tiger mom…I'm a fast with my typing and can graciously admit my mistakes :-)
August 15th, 2011
2:37 pm
Sorry, that should be "I'm fast with my typing and can graciously admit my mistakes :-)"
August 15th, 2011
2:42 pm
I think if you are able then it is great….but not for me. I'm not sure my son would have been awarded college scholarships for Academics and Baseball if he would not have been in "Public Schools". Plus he will not be surprised at other students personality types and how to handle them when he gets to the dorms!
August 15th, 2011
2:52 pm
Kind of old stat, but according to the Department of Education as of 2003 83% of homeschooled children were done so becuase of religious or moral reasons, and it's more than twice as likely in whites as it is in any other race.
Would appear that eight years ago we were looking at Christian white folk that don't want their kids being around anyone different than they were.
August 15th, 2011
2:55 pm
Ohio Muffin….Not picking on you just thought it was fun to see…I like your graciousness
Jarvis Well put….not much diversity in my household either, I'm proud he has well formed opinions and can back them up with facts.
Kawla-I agree with your statement "my kids are getting to discover who they are without being put down for who that may be and becoming dependant on their peers for approval."
There have been some tough days when the peer pressure was high on what is or isn't acceptable
Plus the money you must save homeschooling, with out all the PTO fundraisers, snack money, field trip dues & t-shirts, having to get that certain "name brand" shirt from the mall, 6 different teacher gifts and/or room supplies, etc…
August 15th, 2011
3:14 pm
If anyone is interested, the National Home Education Research Institute (www.nheri.org) is an excellent resource for high quality research on homeschooling.
August 15th, 2011
3:15 pm
Homeschooling parents all say that their homeschools are deplorable, and then choose to homeschool their kids. Yet, the real reason was clearly outlined by a poster: to make sure that their precious ones aren't mixed in with the kids that come from less than desirable parents. And when these kids grow up, they will be totally shocked that the world isn't how Mommy and Daddy portrayed it.
August 15th, 2011
3:19 pm
Thanks No Tiger Mom- I appreciate you agreeing with a positive I pointed out even though homeschooling is not for you. That is the attitude I wish more people had- there are many school choices and ALL of them have pluses and minuses- it is up to each family to decide which one works best for them. (and that may change for each family/child year to year as well – we homeschool for now, but that may not always be the case)
As far as saving $, I must admit I don't do a good job of that! I am one that gets excited by outside opportunities, and we pay tuition for a tutor, outside homeschool classes and various dance/sports activities. We also try to go on a lot of field trips, some local, some requiring overnight stays, since we have the flexibility to do so. But I feel like these all contribute to making my kids well rounded and it is my choice to spend $ on these things. I have many friends who are able to homeschool much more cheaply than I – it is a personal choice and again, I am glad to live somewhere where we each have the freedom to decide what works best for our family.
August 15th, 2011
3:25 pm
I'm Black and can confidently say that my children are exposed to ALL different types of people. My daughter's ballet and swim classes are mixed cultures/races. My husband and I work with individuals from different backgrounds. We mostly shop and eat grocery stores and ethnic restaurants. At some point I plan to teach abroad where my children will have the opportunity to live and learn in another culture. My husband and I are straight up with our children about the "real" world.
August 15th, 2011
3:38 pm
I see alot of what I must assume as Homeschooled kids on "field trips" to Target, WalMart, McDonald's, CiCi's etc., all hours of the day……I always wondered why those kids weren't in school. Now I know. They are on a "Field Trip" with Teacher/Mommy
August 15th, 2011
4:01 pm
I have never homeschooled, so I cannot comment on that aspect. I am not the kind of person who would be able to do it. I need my space from my children and want them to be in different scenarios without me and learn how to deal with other people ( this has helped a LOT since they have each had a job) . I am not intelligent enough to cover all the classes my kids have needed, all the way through HS and we surely did not have the equipment they would need either.
We moved (a few times) to enable our children to attend public schools that we thought were good. They are both doing well in college and so, for us, we made a presumably good decision. A question I have is this, if you are not happy with the school near you…might you spend just as much time working at a job ( with earning potential) and sending your kids to private school as you would researching and learning the material you would need to teach? If you could drive your kids to a better school and then work to say earn $30,000-$40,000 per year would that cover tuition for 2 kids? I am truly asking this question, as I have never understood it. I know some of you do work and also homeschool and that has to be a LOT of work!
August 15th, 2011
4:06 pm
TWG, I think one of my posts got caught up in the filter. I can't ever figure out what the buzz words are that I'm supposed to avoid.
August 15th, 2011
4:08 pm
All I said in the filtered post was that I agree with freedom of choice. Just beause I didn't make the same choice as some others doesn't mean that I don't think they should have a choice as how to raise and education their children.
August 15th, 2011
4:13 pm
Careful MJG, a couple of years ago you commented on another topic about homeschooling and your comments ended up all over homeschooling web sites….
August 15th, 2011
4:15 pm
I am a teacher (waiting to get rehired in Gwinnett) and I considered homeschooling my daughter. As she got older, temperament made the decision for me to send her to a public school in Gwinnett. She and I love each other and have tons of fun together, but we don't do well together when it comes to school work. She attends one of the best schools in Gwinnet in the Brookwood cluster and is very happy. She loves her teacher and is doing very well. Homeschooling wasn't going to be a great experience for us AND our family needs another income now. I commend anyone that homeschools their children. It is not an easy job and I think it would take incredible focus. I like to ask homeschool parents about their curriculum and their experiences because I am curious. I don't judge and most homeschool parents I talk to love to tell you about what they do with their children. It makes me sad when any parent has to defend any good decision that they make about their child. My daughter does not attend our "home school" and I get asked all the time, "Why doesn't she just go to the neighborhood school?" Well, quite frankly it is none of any one else's business why we chose to send her to another school. Aren't we all just trying to do what is right for our own families?
August 15th, 2011
4:21 pm
I don't homeschool my son, but I have friends who do, and I certainly don't look down on their choice. I think it's a decision that every family makes for themselves. I chose private school for my son, for the main reason that was listed above…the public school he is supposed to attend was just unacceptable to me. They consistently fail to meat AYP (although that isn't all that great a standard) and yes, I do want to shelter him somewhat from the "less desirable" element, as some put it. It has nothing to do with race, however. His private school has students from all races and multiple religions. But having him there in a more structured environment allows me the freedom to educate him about other cultures in my own way, rather than having them shoved down his throat by the politically correct society we live in. Also, since it's private, I feel less concerned about bullying and such, because they expel the rowdy kids. I want him to be able to learn in a calm, nurturing setting, not the chaotic madhouse that some public schools are today.
August 15th, 2011
4:24 pm
There are some of us who believe there is no such thing as a 'good school.' Some of us – me included – believe the very format of the institution is counter to true education. If you research the history of institutionalized schooling you will find a very much less-than-honorable motive behind their formation. We can afford private school – and did – but finally realized the busy work and inadequate textbooks were just not going to work for us. I emphasize 'for us.' Other people might love the school setting, and disagree with my belief about textbooks – and more power to them. We love freedom. We are a grade or more ahead on everysubject and spend way LESS time than they did sitting around in school. We consider it a gift of time to our children. This includes substantial foreign languages, economics, logic, serious musical instrument instruction, and the like, on top of the normal subjects taught in elementary schools. As for lack of socialization – I always found that a really odd 'negative' of homeschooling – since from what I recall, the teachers spent a lot of their time making sure we were quiet, still in our seats and NOT socializing in school.
August 15th, 2011
4:34 pm
@ mom, I was trying to be careful and I was unaware I was the topic of discussion. Oh well…I do not pretend to know everything.
I have simply not met as many success stories in homeschooling, as there probably are. I have seen the side (told me by teachers) where parents pulled their kids out of a local school and then sent them back. While I am sure they are out there, I have never had a teacher tell me, " I have a new student who was home schooled and he/she is just wonderful." I have heard other stories. I would like to hear more success stories. Perhaps the success stories ARE the ones who can tough it out and teach their children every grade and never attend public or private school. I do not know.
What is the percentage of children who are homeschooled from Kinder through twelfth grade? I do know that I would not ever be prepared to teach my children the things they needed to know, especially in middle and high school.
@ Kathy…I love ya but you had better get ready for some sadness as there will be days when you will have to defend a good decision you presumably made for your child….both to your child and other parents/teachers too. I love my own kids fiercely but 24/7 does not work for us either.
August 15th, 2011
4:36 pm
We just want to insure that we can teach our children the truth….namely that the earth is six thousand years old and that the Baby Jesus enjoyed dinosaur rides. Well that and the fact that true Christians are to exercise dominion over all the nations. The reason behind a large chunk of the homeschool community is to create the theocrats of tomorrow. Call it Sharia Law with a smiling Christian face.
August 15th, 2011
4:38 pm
Russ- no they aren't on field trips- they likely have finished their school work for the day. Take out lunch, recess and crows control and the time it takes to school a child one on one is less than it would be if they were going to school. (for most- I know some who still do 6-8 hours at home- it depends on age, ability, subjects covered and again, family choice) I often choose to run my errands in the mornings when things are less crowded and start our schoolwork after lunch. We can go into the evening if we needed to (though we rarely do) – again it is all about flexibility.
MJG- yes, I could go back to work and send the kids to private school, and I may choose to do that when all of my kids are school-aged. But that solution would still take away what I personally love most about homeschooling- the flexibility! We would again all be on someone else's schedule and our routines and vacations would be set by those, not by what works for us as a family. Again, I didn't realize what a difference that makes until I began. It is a feeling of pure freedom. We do have a schedule, because I don't work well without one, but it is one that my husband and I decide on, not one that is imposed on us. For example, though our county started back to school last week, we will not start until next week, because I feel it is still summer time! I did this last year and it worked fine, because I did not take all of the breaks that the school system takes- I don't really need a whole week at thanksgiving, a couple of days works for us. Others may want longer breaks mid-year and shorter summers – it is all about the flexibility! (can you tell I love the flexibility of homeschooling! : ) )
August 15th, 2011
5:23 pm
I have no problem with homeschoolers, except when the school/teachers are tasked with catching up the child who is badly behind. Occasionally here we get homeschoolers who are above and beyond, but mostly they are behind and have discipline issues.
August 15th, 2011
5:47 pm
I have homeschooled my three children for four years. I laugh at the socialization comments. They are all in scouts, play on soccer teams, take a drawing class and have many friends. The difference is they don't sit in a classroom for 7 hours a day but instead are done after lunch. We have time and the flexibility to "socialize." Most of my friends have kids in private school. Their lives are stressed, hurried and all about keeping up with the latest and greatest. Kids don't go to school to socialize. In fact unless they're at recess they'll get in trouble for it.
Oh, to the person who made comments on the Target, Walmart shoppers…A big part of homeschooling is learning how the real world works. Part of that is where the groceries come from etc..Helping with errands, grocery shopping and such helps kids to see real life and how much goes into running a household. I bet homeschool kids do more chores and are more independent than most kids in school.
August 15th, 2011
5:55 pm
I have homeschooled my kids from the start. I also teach at a one-day-a-week program where we teach higher level academic subjects that the parents are not as comfortable teaching. The kids do their work at home during the other 4 days and come in with questions. We go over the next week's topics, give assignments and then they go home to do those assignments. It works really well and the kids (and parents) enjoy having some other authority for at least a few of their subjects.
Even for those teaching exclusively at home, most homeschool high school textbooks are designed to be done mostly by the student with some help from the parent. That help is usually in grading tests (answers are included in a separate book) and gathering lab materials/helping with labs. The text is written directly to the student. Some come with extra CD-Roms with additional material or problems worked out to help with any areas a student doesn't understand.
I love my homeschool students and I am really glad my own kids attend there as well. These kids easily engage in actual conversations with adults and enjoy a wide age-range of friends. My 7-year-old is just as comfortable hanging out with the middle and high school kids as he is hanging out with his same-age friends. And the high schoolers readily involve the younger ones in their activities and watch out for them. They are all very supportive of each other and comfortable in their own skins. Yes, they all are used to being able to voice their own opinion whenever they want to and they have to spend a little time getting used to the difference of a classroom environment.
Some homeschoolers I know are behind, some are ahead but I also tutor public school kids, some are behind, some are ahead.
That said, I don't think everyone should homeschool. I know parents of kindergarteners who don't discipline their own kids and I look forward to those kids getting a little discipline from school. Some parents aren't willing to put the work into making sure their kids stay on task or into taking advantage of the freedom of homeschooling. Those parents would do just as well to send their kids to school.
August 15th, 2011
6:10 pm
Think about it – who is better socialized? The child who spends his day at a desk surrounded only by his peers, or the child who spends time with younger children, learning to patient with their needs, and with those of varying degrees older than themselves, and learning from them and their varied experiences? We've homeschooled for 18 years now and all can visit with someone they've just met at a nursing home, entertain a young toddler, or engage in intelligent conversation with a stranger they've just met. I don't think it's because we happened to have wonderfully bright children, but that they learned to converse and interact with the different age groups and settings.
August 15th, 2011
6:20 pm
In my experience, the parents that "say" that they are "confident" and "happy" with their homeschool experience are the very ones that will go on and on constantly defending their choice. Private school parents are next in line. I feel like sometimes the only parents that I can have a "normal" conversation with are my peer parents in my neighborhood public school.
I have never looked down on anyones school choice for their kids, but I feel like the homeschool and private parents certainly do that to public school folks. The constant "one up-ing" and ALL positives really drive me up the wall. I almost never hear the negative, everything is constantly abundant sunshine. I can point out any annoying situation and they will come back with positive galore. It has been enough to back me avoid these parents all together. Nothing in life is perfect, that is what we all have to deal with even our children!
@ catlady All my teacher friends say the same things, it's mostly cleaning up the aftermath when parents need (for whatever reason) to return to the tradtional classroom, wheather it be public or private.
This can get as brutal as the ever so famous working mom vs. SAHM free for all :(
August 15th, 2011
6:56 pm
Well said AJH! I feel the same way. While I do not agree with homeschooling on any level (public school teacher here) I don't look down on those who do. Live and let live. But I do get sick and tired of the "Pollyana" point of view. It seems that we are not allowed to say anything negative about homeschooling but it is perfectly acceptable for homeschool parents (and kids) to bash public school. Double standards much? No school is perfect…public, private or home. They all have positives and-gasp-negatives. If it works for you, great. Public school is not the monster that some people make it out to be. I bet most of the homeschoolers were raised in public school and they turned out o.k.–or as some I know would say–better than o.k. since they are the only ones qualified to teach their children.
August 15th, 2011
7:01 pm
"The constant "one up-ing" and ALL positives really drive me up the wall. I almost never hear the negative, everything is constantly abundant sunshine. I can point out any annoying situation and they will come back with positive galore."
LOL everything that I have read here by the pro-homeschool crowd is just as you described. What a wonderful World they must live in. Like was mentioned earlier, until there is long term hard core data to prove otherwise, the evidence just isn't there. That is, unless you listen to the perfect better than you teacher/parent and their fantastical uber socialized children. How could the majority here be wrong?
August 15th, 2011
7:52 pm
I spent alot of time getting in trouble for socializing during school. Anyways, how is sitting in a age segregated classroom with the same 30 kids all day everyday going to give your child a rounded socialization experience? I love the fact that my "weird unsocialized children" can converse with an 80 year old grocery clerk just as well as they can with a child their age. I personally dont trust a class room full of 8 year olds to teach my child how to socialize.
August 15th, 2011
7:52 pm
A woman I know, told me that her college aged child worked at Six Flags all summer. She then shared that she also knows someone else whose daughter worked in her Dad's office all summer.
Next, she said…" I think my child will be better prepared to face all sorts of very different scenarios and I am proud of the lessons she learned in working with so many different types of people. The daughter who works for her Dad can get things customized for her: schedule, paycheck and responsibilities." Something to think about. I admire ANYONE who can make it through a summer working at Six Flags! They have to get along with ALL sorts of people, many who could perhaps be very different from them.
August 15th, 2011
7:55 pm
pass me a barf bag- There is evidence. I am not sure what you consider long term, but since homeschooling was illegal up until the mid-80's it is just impossible to go back that far. No, we dont live in a perfect world. Some days are stinking hard and public school looks great. How can the majority be wrong? Well you do know that the majority was homeschooling up until the government stuck their noses into the parental relm right? Public education is a fairly new idea. Homeschooling, however is as old as education itself.
August 15th, 2011
9:36 pm
There are endless reasons for homeschooling. Each family may have varying reasons. Some families live in failing districts and are not able to pick up and move to better ones. Some families have medical or psychological issues with children that local systems are ill equipped or unequipped to handle. Some do so for religious and/or moral reasons. We do so because we are able to spend more one on one time ensuring our children are not just taught to take a test but are actually taught the subjects. If one of our children does poorly in math we can spend as much time is needed until she gets it. If she does great at English we can move along to more challenging aspects. This is instead of just being given a D or C to push along to the next grade – if the child does not get a concept, that stays with the child throughout school in the public domain.
Our children are taught that life is a school. If we go to the park, we talk science, do PE, etc. If we go to Stone Mountain we learn about animal habitats, geology, weather and climate, erosion, etc. If we go shopping we go through math, etc. Homeschooling can emphasize more than just what we teach at a desk.
As far as socialization, our children still participate in soccer, ballet, karate, musical lessons, etc. We have church activities and also belong to homeschool groups that get together for field trips, field day competition, etc. These are environments we are better able to control as far as the influences they are exposed to. My children live in an ethnically diverse area. We actually travel around the country and have been to several nations on mission trips. I wouldn't say we were the white people afraid of letting our kids be near those of darker skin. We even do missions projects with UN refugees that live in the DeKalb County area and work in downtown missions as well. I'd say my children have a far greater perspective on all social classes as well as a scope of the world.
As far as the people on here chastising homeschooling and advocating public schooling as better, I challenge you to look at the issues schooling in the public domain face. Nationally our schools fail compared to others. Our state is at the bottom nationally. You have school systems caught in scandals. Campus violence takes place constantly. Children are taught just to perform well on the test forgetting most of this as they move on. I can say that my children are actually getting a much better education than the kids even in local private schools.
For the person asking about doing homeschool as well as working full time, it can be done. It depends on your time management and dedication. It is not an easy task. But it can be done and you spend some very quality time with your children. You can spend a few hours a day during the week and some of the weekend to give the children the same if not more education than they get during the week in the public school.
I see it as my responsibility as head of the house and in a spiritual manner that my children are educated. I cannot pass this duty off to some teachers in the public arena. My wife and I both school our children. I feel it imperative that I ensure MY children, MY offspring, have the education they need to succeed in a spiritual manner and a secular world. There are some that homeschool without a religious foundation but this is my choice and right. If you take that time to educate your children I commend you. I'd recommend listening to Voddie Baucham for a religious perspective.
August 15th, 2011
9:41 pm
Socialization? LMAO, because the kids in public schools are so well-behaved and "socialized", right?
The Atlanta Children's museum, Zoo Atlanta and about a billion other local facilities have homeschool seminars. Plenty of socialization there. Sports = more socialization. Neighbors and their kids = more socialization.
Anyone who plays the "socialization" card in 2011 = an ignorant fool who is likely jealous that we get hundreds of extra hours each year with our kids, while they ship little Jimmy off to the government 180 days a year.
August 15th, 2011
9:42 pm
My wife & I have homeschooled our 10th grade daughter since she was in first grade. We also homeschooled our 7th grade son through 5th grade & our 5th grade son through 3rd grade. We homeschooled for a variety of reasons. The number one reason was that we controlled the school year. This flexibility allowed our children to travel the country & learn about America by visiting the National Parks. Their social lives have been & are as busy as any other family we know. Between sports participation, church, homeschool groups & other social outlets, our boys were well equiped to enter the public school system last year. Their transition was easy (both academically & socially).
As for defending our right to homeschool, many parents were jealous that they could not do the same. The only people who typically questioned us or looked "down" on us were public school teachers.


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AICN COMICS Q&@: Henry Higgins finds out what writer Garth Ennis knows about THE SHADOW!!!
@'s by THE SHADOW's Garth Ennis!!!
I owe credit to another friend for coming up with the idea, and it goes like this;Say the names Morrison, Ennis, Moore, Ellis, and Brubaker to someone, and see if they actually know who the hell you're talking about. No? Then shut it and let me read about my funny books in peace. Those are just five of the writers off the top of my head who have defined much of the comics industry as we see it today.
Garth Ennis happens to be one of my favorites of the bunch. Known for his grisly stories and endlessly creative violence, he's also managed to write some of the most original and engaging comics of the last twenty years. Between his work on PUNISHER, HITMAN, PREACHER, and countless others, Ennis has built a library of truly innovative material. With his latest series, THE BOYS, reaching it's end by the end of the year, I was waiting with bated breath to hear what his next project would be. And lo and behold, here it is: From Dynamite Entertainment comes THE SHADOW, with Ennis on writing duties and Aaron Campbell (SHERLOCK HOLMES: YEAR ONE) on art.
I recently spoke to Mr. Ennis about the title, how he got the spot, and what we can expect from the series.
HENRY HIGGINS IS MY HOMEBOY (HHH): How did you end up on this title? I can't imagine it's often that "The Shadow" ends up being your next assignment. Was it something you sought, or did Dynamite come to you?
GARTH ENNIS (GE): A little of both. They came to me, but I immediately leapt at the chance. I usually prefer doing my own characters - there are so few established ones I'm interested in - so I find myself turning down almost every job I'm offered. So much so, in fact, that I almost said no out of sheer habit before I realised what had just been said. "No, I'm not--wait a minute, did you say The Shadow? The actual Shadow? The hat, the eyes, the 45s, I know what evil lurks, etc etc? Bloody hell..."
HHH: Before THE BOYS you said that it was going to "Out-Preacher PREACHER", and you somehow succeeded. Are you bringing that same sentiment to THE SHADOW?
GE: Not really; it's a very different story in terms of style, era, content, the works. That line was really just for marketing, to tie one 5/6-year project to another.
HHH: Now, the last I had heard of The Shadow came from Cracked.com, who in a recent article mentioned how terrible The Shadow had gotten in the early 90's under DC. Have you seen those stories? If so, what did you think? What about the feature film, starring Alec Baldwin?
GE: Can barely remember the film. I read a couple of Denny O'Neil stories, one of which was a graphic novel from the early 90s--it didn't exactly blow me away, but it was useful in terms of researching the character. Of less use but a much better read was Howard Chaykin's mid-80s update.
HHH: This is something more for my sake than anything, as I'm always curious; what are you reading right now?
GE: Comics--CALIGULA, PUNISHER MAX, SCALPED. JUDGE DREDD and STRONTIUM DOG in 2000AD. Looking forward to SAGA.
Books--an old out-of-print WW2 novel called "Warriors For The Working Day" by a bloke called Peter Elstob, who served in tanks during the war and drew on his experiences, to often extremely brutal effect. Just finished an excellent thriller called "The Great Leader" by Jim Harrison, very funny, very smart. Other recent ones include "Voodoo Histories" by David Aaronovitch, about how conspiracy theories are a load of balls; "On The Outside Looking In", a memoir by a Belfast writer called Sam McAughtry; and Max Hastings' superb WW2 history "All Hell Let Loose" (published in the US as "Inferno"). Next up is probably Steve Earle's novel, "I'll Never Get Out Of This World Alive".
HHH: Unlike my other interviews, I haven't actually seen any of this comic (top secret and all). Could you give me a two or three sentence summary of what your THE SHADOW is going to be about?
GE: In early 1938, the Shadow is caught up in an international hunt for a prize so vital that it will change the future of the world. Together with the beautiful Margo Lane he travels from the seedy waterfront of New York City to the even seedier Shanghai underworld, where romantic dreams of the Fabulous Orient evaporate in the face of downright lethal reality. Sinister Nazis, Brutish Soviets, Chinese bandit kings, Japanese military intelligence agents and their American counterparts--all are caught up in the deadly web of destruction. Now read on.
HHH: You seem to be one of the best possible choices for this series--a natural fit. How has it felt working on THE SHADOW?
GE: Thanks. It has indeed felt very natural. There are some obvious parallels with The Punisher, in terms of the Shadow's tendency towards solving his problems by extreme sanction, but he's a much more complex character--he has a lot more to say for himself through the medium of his alter ego Lamont Cranston. He can be cruel, but he can also show mercy when he deems it appropriate. He thinks tactically, but has a strong sense of the theatrical, often steering his foes along grim and complex paths to their inevitable destinies. He sees himself as an agent of Fate, with one eye on the bigger picture as he moves the pieces around the board. And then, of course, there's the mystical element--which I've been having a lot of fun with.
HHH: Aaron Campbell is on art duties for this series, and he's proven to be a fantastic choice for this type of subject (his work on GREEN HORNET and SHERLOCK HOLMES both have a good feel to them, and represents that style of comic well). Had you worked with him before? How has it been working with him on this title?
GE: No, this is our first collaboration, but he really is an excellent choice. I just got some pages from him today and I was impressed at how completely he caught the world of The Shadow, as well as the character himself. Great storyteller, which is always my #1 concern. Nice sense of character, very good at action, truly professional. My kind of artist.
HHH: For a library so based in subverting the hero archetype, how does it feel to be working on one of the characters who helped to establish that archetype in the first place?
GE: To me, the character is more of a crime/pulp adventure figure, rather than the more common costumed hero. So he puts me in mind of some of the 2000AD characters I grew up on, which despite their sci-fi settings had the same American pulp roots. They were nearly all gunfighters, and so's The Shadow. So are Nick Fury and Frank Castle, come to that.
HHH: Did you ever listen to the old SHADOW radio serial as a child? Or is this title something you found later in a life?
GE: No, I don't think we got that one in the UK. My first actual exposure to the Shadow was the Chaykin series; I found out about the rest after that.
HHH: With your pet project THE BOYS wrapping soon, are you bringing anything from that over to this title?
GE: No, they're completely separate.
HHH: I imagine the process of moving over from a universe you created to a much more publicly known character must be a bit of a departure. How has that been?
GE: Nothing unusual for me; I've been jumping around my entire career. HELLBLAZER to PREACHER, PUNISHER to THE BOYS. The trick is to keep enjoying what I do--to make my own creations as successful as I can, while as far as possible picking and choosing my work-for-hire jobs. I think for the most part it's worked out according to plan.
HHH: Do you have any other projects lined up, beyond THE SHADOW?
GE: There's the end of THE BOYS in November, of course. A new series of BATTLEFIELDS for Dynamite, with a similar war series coming from Avatar. The first three issues of the new CROSSED ongoing. DICKS vol 3, after all these years. NICK FURY for Marvel Max. And a couple of other projects I can't talk about for a while yet.
HHH: Congrats on THE BOYS reaching its natural conclusion. Do you have any overarching ideas for THE SHADOW? Is it just a mini, or is this going to be a regular series?
GE: For the moment I'm focusing on the first six issues of the ongoing series. We'll see how that works out, and take it from there.
HHH: Watch for THE SHADOW, coming from Dynamite Entertainment in April.
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Feb. 2, 2012, 10:24 a.m. CST
garth ennis rules!
by Tim Reuschling
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:27 a.m. CST
I'll buy this when it comes out.
by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder
A bit of the old Ultra-Violence should fit the Shadow to a "T".
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:28 a.m. CST
by Creepythinmanlivez
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:35 a.m. CST
It sounds like Henry Higgens might have a hipster problem.
by 3774
You can fumigate for those, if you find too many of them.
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:36 a.m. CST
Do we like The Shadow movie? I can't remember.
by David Cloverfield
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:41 a.m. CST
Garth Ennis is one of the best comic writers.FACT.
by KilliK
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:42 a.m. CST
Oh and last issues of The Boys are fucking awesome now that the series is coming to its final conclusion.
by KilliK
Dont miss them.
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:45 a.m. CST
by sundancekeed
The Shadow has been represented in books, movies, comics and television. But it's really only in radio that he was a huge hit. And I think that was because the character was uniquely suited to the imagination. In radio, he was truly menacing and scary. Listen to some of those old broadcasts, particularly the ones voiced by Orson Welles. The Shadow was CREEPY even though you knew he was on the side of right. And it was your imagining what the character actually was and what he was doing that made it so. Visual media doesn't seem to work as well regarding The Shadow. That sense of menace has never translated well to comics or film though I thought the Alex Baldwin movie was better at it than a lot of other folks did.
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:46 a.m. CST
But i dont think he is the suitable writer to reboot the Shadow character.
by KilliK
He was perfect for the Punisher but the Shadow is a completely different beast. I dont know who other comic writer would have been better for this project,noone comes to my mind but Nolan or Tarantino would have been perfect for at least giving some ideas and the proper vision to modernize and resurrect this pulp character.
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:48 a.m. CST
The Shadow movie despite its lackluster script,is decent.
by KilliK
Nolan would have been perfect to make a new,modernized Shadow flick.After all Batman is a Shadow ripoff.
Feb. 2, 2012, 10:54 a.m. CST
Dicks Vol 3?
by ballyhoo
There was a Vol 2?
Feb. 2, 2012, 11:44 a.m. CST
Is THE BOYS going to officially end like with PREACHER?
by Autodidact
Good. The premise of a comedic anti-superhero team book still has lots of potential, but these characters have run their course. I have all the trades so far. I was about ready to stop picking up new volumes after the extremely shitty volume 8. If volume 9 is the last one I'll grab it. If not I'm going to think twice because I have become quite determined not to waste so much $ on comics that I usually don't even fucking like.
Feb. 2, 2012, 11:53 a.m. CST
Preacher is overrated
by CuervoJones
No, it is NOT overrated. Preacher is my favourite comic ever. And i´ve got a nice collection of The Shadow pulp novels. Great news.
Feb. 2, 2012, 11:56 a.m. CST
Prime Minister, how much does it cost to piss in your mouth?
by CuervoJones
Feb. 2, 2012, 11:57 a.m. CST
The Andy Helfer/Kyle Baker Shadow series from DC was hysterical!
by tonagan
Still waiting for the wrap-up issue after 20+ years.
Feb. 2, 2012, 11:59 a.m. CST
by CuervoJones
Feb. 2, 2012, noon CST
Good article,but some of those questions were painful..
by Jobacca
"With your pet project THE BOYS wrapping soon, are you bringing anything from that over to this title?"...what the hell ??? That question makes no sense. And "Before THE BOYS you said that it was going to "Out-Preacher PREACHER", and you somehow succeeded. Are you bringing that same sentiment to THE SHADOW?" ...again,what the hell????? Why would he be writing THE BOYS and THE SHADOW the same way? Because they both have THE in the title? Why not ask him if THE SHADOW is going to team up with NICK FURY and fight THE CROSSED with the help of PREACHER?
Feb. 2, 2012, 12:02 p.m. CST
helfer/baker series does rock
by Eddie_Dane
bought the complete set on ebay couple of years ago and loved it all over again
Feb. 2, 2012, 1:16 p.m. CST
H3, I don't think Spidey punched anyone's head off BUT...
by Crowe
In Spider-man vs Wolverine, he did kill Charlies. Wolverine's friend (who was dying anyway) got in between him and Wolverine as Spidey was walking away and Spidey hits her full-on thinking she was Wolverine... which was her intent. link: http://spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/spiderman_one_shots/wolverine.html
Feb. 2, 2012, 2:23 p.m. CST
Loved Bill Sienkiewicz futuristic Shadow
by Human Tornado
Sooo much crazy shit going on. That and "Year One" got me back into comics in the late 80's.
Feb. 2, 2012, 3:16 p.m. CST
by batman74
The Shadow was the most successful pulp hero of all time. He appeared in more than 300 novels published over more than 20 years. Bob Kane acknowledged the influence of the character on his creation of Batman. Bill Finger and Jerry Robinson acknowledged that one of the novels influenced the creation of the Joker. Finger admitted to "borrowing" some of the plots for his scripts. While it is true the charter enjoyed a long radio life, to suggest he didn't enjoy longevity in any other media is patently false.
Feb. 2, 2012, 3:51 p.m. CST
Can anyone think of a better actor for Billy Butcher...
by Bill
...than Dominic West?
Feb. 2, 2012, 4:29 p.m. CST
=Can anyone think of a better actor for Billy Butcher...=
by KilliK
YES.not an actor but he is visually perfect: http://bit.ly/mHicWj
Feb. 2, 2012, 5:53 p.m. CST
%Can anyone think of a better actor for Billy Butcher...%
by Bill
Yeah, he looks like he does a pretty mean Michael Caine.
Feb. 2, 2012, 6:13 p.m. CST
I said nothing about "longevity".
by sundancekeed
I said The Shadow has never been as successful in other media as he was on radio. And that's patently true. The Shadow was frequently the most listened to radio show in America. It never achieved those heights in print or film.
Feb. 2, 2012, 6:52 p.m. CST
Garth Ennis rules. Why didn't they give him more control over the Punisher movies? They certainly plundered his material, if rather clumsily.
by Hat Man
Feb. 3, 2012, 1:06 a.m. CST
Helfer/Chaykin/Sienkiewicz/Baker is some of the best of the 80/90s
by kirttrik
It bugs me that they don't get the respect they deserved. If the same series came out in the late 90s it would of been a hit.
Feb. 3, 2012, 1:12 a.m. CST
sundancekeed--pulp history
by batman74
The Shadow magazine was, for many years, the best selling pulp magazine in America. In fact, the demand was so high that the publisher Street and Smith starting publishing it at the then unprecedented rate of every two weeks. You are correct when you say the radio show was successful. However, the novels were also HUGE during the heyday of pulp magazines. In fact, even after the pulps began to die off, the magazine continued to be published for a while in "digest" form. Anyone interested should check out the pulp reprint series Anthony Tollin and Will Murray are doing. In addition to The Shadow, they are also reprinting Doc Savage.
Feb. 3, 2012, 1:46 a.m. CST
Never have I liked a writer more, whose influence has been so negative
by ClaireRedfield
Ennis is so good at what he does, he's convinced some people to believe his shit is the only shit that matters. I like Ennis's work usually, but the guy has a serious and almost irrational hatred of superheroes in the classical sense. That's fine as long as idiots don't hire him to write things he obviously despises. His influence is quite clear when you consider how all of the sudden many comics readers hate every hero who doesn't have fucked up moral flaws and personality defects. The people who bitch about how "boring" Superman is are usually trolling Ennis fans. It's not the characters that are boring. It's the writers. Always. Period. Anything can be dynamic, exciting, complex, and challenging to the reader if the writer is up to the task. If you call Morrisons "All-Star Superman" boring, you're a fucking liar, and that Superman was the squeeky-cleanest one seen in the past 20 years. Anyway, I figure The Shadow will be quite good under Ennis. It seems like something he can really get into. His usual proclivity for characters with strong moral fiber and psychotically violent tendencies will make for some interesting stories.
Feb. 3, 2012, 4:51 a.m. CST
I thought Chaykin's Shadow was pretty good...a nice update to the character.
by scrote
Feb. 6, 2012, 12:53 p.m. CST
by Jon Forbing
I totally agree. I think the problem is, for some reason, a lot of people think that they have to agree with every opinion held by a writer that they like. They discover Ennis (or Ellis, or Morrison or whoever), and suddenly they feel the need to regurgitate half-assed versions of their idealogies. I love Ennis, and I also love superheroes, and I don't see how some comic fans see the two as self-exclusive.
Feb. 9, 2012, 9:37 p.m. CST
pink_apocalypse, jobacca, scarecrowe
by HenryHigginsIsMyHomeboy
pink_apocalypse - A little bit. I'm always afraid it's going to become a "become what you hate" scenario. jobacca - Touche. It wasn't until I reread the piece those questions were terribly, TERRIBLY worded. For the first one, I meant were there elements from that series that he was thinking of bringing over. And on the second, I was curious if he was going to play up the "Atypical Garth Ennis Charm" with the series. Luckily, Mr. Ennis has clearly dealt with bullshit questions before, and didn't just lecture me on them. But you tell me; Would you really not read a Garth Ennis written crossover with THE SHADOW, NICK FURY and THE PUNISHER vs. THE CROSSED with the help of PREACHER? Because I would read the fuck out of it. scarecrowe - That was my first thought when he mentioned it, but then he tried to explain how it occurred in the mid 90's and it was this thug who was driving a car at the time. .....Yeah.
Feb. 9, 2012, 9:38 p.m. CST
I am the worst writer ever.
by HenryHigginsIsMyHomeboy
It wasn't until I reread the piece THAT THOSE questions
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Why would this have any effect on memory whatsoever? It literally does nothing.
Ah... now I get it. Thanks for pointing that out.
Of course it has an effect. It's code - it takes up memory.
It both increments *and* decrements the underlying object's reference count! You can hardly call that "nothing"!
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 11:18 • by Anon (unregistered)
public class Destruction {
Yaay optimisation!
Obviously the problem is that he forgot to call System.gc().
Uses CPU time, too. Definitely not "nothing"!
<i>public class Destruction {
public static void delete(Object object){
object = null;
I got it. He forgot to object ? null , right?
CAPTCHA: erat - to remove a difficult programmer by force.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 11:24 • by Medinoc (unregistered)
And if the programmer relies on this function, it's probable that the original object reference will never be set to null (and so, the object never deleted).
You really haven't read about JIBE? That's Java Intention Based Execution. The compiler sees the intention of the programmer was to destruct the object, and will generate code to do so. Afterwards, all variables and fields pointing to this object will be null. I think it's time for y'all to upgrade and keep up with the literature.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 11:26 • by javacoder (unregistered)
it allow the object to be garbage collected.... it is still a WTF because a one liner should be done by the caller
Any Java compiler from 1.4 will optimize it away the first time this code is executed. So it would't consume any CPU nor additional memory
I bet this application used to be written in C++.
Only problem is that it's missing a vector delete method!
Honestly, this is WTF-worthy?
I almost want to call this article a troll to get someone to say, "Java's the real WTF," and start a holy war...
I'm guessing that he read somewhere that setting an object reference to null causes it to be reclaimed.
Luckily, I've never had to worry about garbage collection with my applications. I let the VM do that for me.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 11:30 • by SkittlesAreYum (unregistered)
Yeah, not really.
The main reason it's a memory hog is that it's in Java. Bazing.
But the object won't be garbage-collected unless ALL outstanding references are set to null. And this only sets the (newly-created) reference to null. Even the caller's reference will still be non-null.
You know nulling objects to "help" the garbage collector is usually considered bad practice, right?
The act before you with the anatomically-accurate balloon animals was better. In a depressing way.
No, it doesn't.
It shows a complete lack of understanding of how the language works. It's as bad a smell as there is. It'd not surprise me if this came from the kind of place that reboots their application server once or twice a day to keep the memory footprint at bay.
Maybe the coder was used to VB, where parameters are sent ByRef by default?
I'm not a Java guru (despite having used it extensively) so I'll say what I *think* is going wrong here.
First of all, he's obviously instantiated a class whose sole purpose is to delete other objects. If this isn't a singleton then it will be taking up a lot of memory if he's instantiating a new instance every time.
Secondly, setting it to null doesn't help. Best let the garbage collector do things on its own. I can't remember Java's semantics for parameters but I think it's a local copy of the object which is being set to null and not the original memory reference.
This one actually made me laugh. I've not seen a WTF that made me laugh in a while :-)
Seriously though, this highlights just how poorly these concepts are dealt with on CS courses. I've met many developers who have a major lack of understanding about the "black magic" of garbage collection. Arbitrary null setting really drives me nuts.
Seriously, if you have a memory problem in your application, run the damn thing through a profiler. Don't just start scatter-gunning null allocations throughout your code.
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Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 11:49 • by Swedish tard (unregistered)
Quite so.
That code displays a rather big lack of knowledge how java handles parameters, and a blatant disregard for a bunch best practices regarding the language and OOP in general.
It is rather hard to manage to get more things wrong in a single static method class in java tbh.
This function has an upside: If it is consistently used, then there will be a distinct lack of heap fragmentation.
It's unlikely they are instantiating a new class since the method itself is static.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 11:51 • by Patrick (unregistered)
Simple. It makes a copy of the object passed to it (as it is passed by value), then doesn't use it. The allocated memory remains until the garbage collector kicks in, and by then more copies of other objects would have also appeared.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 11:55 • by ShatteredArm (unregistered)
It's a static method. No instance needs to be created to call that method.
It's beside the point. It's not about whether it's better to let the GC do things on its own. The point is that it doesn't even do anything. Even if a forced removal of the reference were the way to go, this does not achieve that. The only reference to the object that is removed is the one on the stack that is used to pass the location of the object into the function. The original reference is left unaffected. This is not Java, it's just basic computer science.
You tell me over and over, we're on the eve of
TRWTF is that you commenters don't know how references work. No, it doesn't make a copy of the object. No, the variable reassignment doesn't bubble back to the caller. No, the garbage collector doesn't care.
One can hope, but I have seen people make a class with all methods static and then create instance of this class and call the static methods from the instance variable.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:00 • by Anon (unregistered)
No, the method is static.
Objects aren't "set to null", references (or pointers) to those objects are set to null. I think this is the fundamental misunderstanding that caused this code to be created in the first place.
I think that is the whole purpose of the code. Create more garbage so that the garbage collection kicks in sooner.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:02 • by Buffled (unregistered)
Depending on the JVM. The Blackberry docs encourage it, for example. That being said, the way it was implemented here is literally worse than useless.
obviously on an embedded system......
I grow tired of this conversation. Summon the dancing girls!
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:15 • by Anonymous (unregistered)
Alright! Let's dance!
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:20 • by Russ (unregistered)
WRONG! Thank you for playing.
It only internally to the routine sets the object to null. The routine that calls this would still have the original and untouched object.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:35 • by nobody (unregistered)
you guys call yourselves coders? rule 1. stfu if you don't know and don't try to pull it out of your ass.
rule 2. it's not pass by value. go to rule 1.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:36 • by Lunkwill (unregistered)
Indeed, seems about a third of those who feel qualified to comment on Java stuff don't have a farkin clue how the language works. I hope that's not representative of people actually using it. "Hope dies last", as they say...
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:36 • by gallier2 (unregistered)
As always, the WTF are in the comments, Java doesn't make a copy of the passed object, the reference to the object is passed by value, the reference is nulled, and the original reference of the caller is not modified.
There was also a comment at the beginning which talked about the reference counter incremented and decremented, wrong!!! The function does nothing, it writes a 0 on the call stack, that's all.
This is why this is a valid WTF! More comments from java experts please!
Let's not forget that Java doesn't GC with reference counting; it uses mark and sweep.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:40 • by Lunkwill (unregistered)
2. yes it is, think of primitive types. it's just that object types *are* references. go to rule 1.
Re: Java Destruction
2010-04-07 12:40 • by Sanity (unregistered)
Depends entirely on the situation. That page lists a perfectly legitimate case -- objects still technically reachable (part of an array, for instance) but which the program is done with.
Of course, this only works if you're actually talking directly to the array. I suppose the person who wrote this wanted
But of course, that does less than nothing. The method would only really work like this:
Destruction.delete(arr, i);
...and that's specific to arrays, and also fairly useless.
My Favourite Java Destruction till now was a program that set all instance variables null ... in the finallizer ...
"To help garbage collection"
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Author Pete O'Donovan & Dani Andrada – Published Pod Climbing (2012) – ISBN 9780956700612.0000
Selective guidebook to the one of the finest sport climbing venues in Europe: the Catalan province of Tarragona in Northwest Spain. Includes GPS co-ordinates for key parking areas. Languages: English, Catalan and Castillian.
Crags covered by this Guide


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Children's Fifi Bambina Umbrellas - Ł
When my Auntie Sheila got married I was a bridesmaid.
She got married in November and it was really rainy so we all had these umbrellas. I've still got mine and my best friend Jodie wants one as well
by Carly
The technical bits♦ Manual opening & closing
♦ Faux bamboo cane crook handle & tip
♦ Length handle to tip 64cm
♦ Children's sized canopy diameter approx. 78.5cm