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Saturday night, coach Ramsay elected to skate Freddy Modin and Tim Stapleton when his Thrashers took on the Islanders. Taking their place at the press box buffet were Ben Eager and Nic Bergfors. Ramsay said that he made the move because he "wanted to bring some attention to the team that we didn't play hard enough [Friday night]".
While I did scratch my head when hearing of this shakeup…personally, I would have rather seen Bergie in there instead of Modin…I love the fact that we finally have a coach in here that insists on his players giving total effort all the time. If you don't play hard, you don't play at all.
And he doesn't wait for several games to go by before enforcing that rule.
Early on, however, it looked as though the message he was sending by making the moves was not bringing about the desired results. Following the loss to Colorado Ramsay's Thrashers found themselves down 2-0 late in the second period to the NHL basement dwellers, the New York Islanders. Fortunately though…his players finally seemed to get their collective acts together and pulled off a 5-4 victory.
Call the win "ugly" if you will… but while I won't argue that point with you, two points added to the standing are never aesthetically challenged in my view. I'll take 'em any way, shape matter or form that I can, thank you very much.
Just as the Thrashers escaped Long Island with the win, Johnny Oduya escaped an island of his own…Schnide Island. Oduya scored his first goal of the season at the 5:45 mark of the third period to tie the game at 2 apiece. But instead of just rowing away from the Isle de Schnide, he opted to crank up the outboard motor to get away from it as fast as he could. Just 1:18 after scoring goal number one, Oduya added a second one.
Left on the shore waiving goodbye is Ron Hainsey. He's now the lone Thrasher regular remaining to get off The Schnide. Freddy Meyer and Tim Stapleton are still scoreless, but Meyer has played in just 6 games while Stapleton suited up for his first bit of action this season Saturday night.
Chris Mason saw his first action in four weeks. Last we saw him in between the pipes, he'd just allowed a sharp-angle goal to Washington's Matt Hendricks just 1:11 after Andrew Ladd had pulled the Thrashers to within one goal. Mason stopped 26 of the 29 Islander shots faced to improve his record to 7-5-1.
The last goal he allowed was to Blake Comeau while Atlanta was trying to kill off an Anthony Stewart holding-the-stick penalty. It was the first power play goal the Islanders had converted since…since…since…ruffling through stacks of stats sheet…since…oh heck, I don't keep track of New York Islander stats. But it's been a while.
Bryan Little had what I consider the best goal of the night. Halfway through the third, with the score tied at 3-3, he snapped a faceoff draw up and over the left shoulder of an obviously surprised Rick DiPietro. It seemed as though there was a communications issue between his teammate in the faceoff circle and the puck was allowed to drop before he was set.
"I tried to make it seem like I was going to win [the faceoff] back," Little said after the game. "I was trying to put it on net, to get a shot, and ended up getting a good bounce on it."
"I've tried it before, but you need to have a bit of luck to get it through. I kind of caught them off-guard, and their goalie really wasn't paying attention."
Your other Thrashers goal-scorers were…Alex Burmistrov, who deflected in a Brent Sopel shot from the point, and Anthony Stewart who score Atlanta's first goal of the night. Stewey knocked home a very nice pass from Sopel who had circled around the net and drew DiPietro far to his right, leaving the backside open.
Oh and, in case you didn't hear, there were a thousand or so hockey fans from Quebec that made an 11 hour bus trip down to Nassau Coliseum to take in the game. Rumor has it they'd like to let the NHL community know they'd sure as heck-fire like another team up in their neck of the woods.
Who knew?
As you'll recall, 15 years ago they saw their Nordiques bolt for the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. They then watched from afar as they went on to win 2 Stanley Cup there in the following few years. Sadly, we in Atlanta know what that feels like given the Flames victory in 1989 while in Calgary…so we can at least sympathize to a certain degree with all those 'Diques.
Anyway, whenever the game clock ticked down to 15 minutes remaining in each period…one minute for every year hockey has been away from their city… the 'Diques erupted in a loud symbolic roar to let the hockey world know they were there.
They do have five more years to use that ploy, but I don't know what they're gonna come up with six years from now when it's been 21 years without a team in Quebec City…you know, where hockey "belongs".
Anywhooo… while I don't think they'll be getting the franchise that's stationed here in Thrasherville anytime soon, I don't think they're field trip to Long Island was a fruitless venture nonetheless. I mean, outside of getting to attend an NHL game in person, they certainly did make some noise and their presence was felt. And I'm certainly not going to take that away from them. That plus at least one of them wound with a real NHL game puck that was lifted up into the crowd late in the game.
I'm sure that'll make a nice keepsake as the 'Diques head back home to Quebec.
December 12th, 2010
12:52 am
Not impressed with the play these past two nights. I respect everything Ramsay does, but I do not see why he put in Modin. I don't like bashing our players, but I think Modin should be strictly for when someone is hurt.
December 12th, 2010
12:56 am
the "diques" love it lol
December 12th, 2010
1:00 am
Ugh. What a game. We had a Christmas party to go to and we kept edging to the door and then edging back to the TV. We missed dinner! But anyway, great finish — crazy!
I am so tired of listening to people whine about how Atlanta (Florida, Phoenix, etc.) don't "deserve" teams. Give it up people. Focus on persuading the league to expand or something, not poaching someone else's franchise. GRRRRR!
But, I really do think that if these people can go and make their presence felt, we can too — make it felt in the building. Even their group of, let's say, 1,000, can make that kind of noise, we can too — and do it better. And with more class. Some of the comments I've read from Canadian fans about Southern teams and their fans have been downright rude and outrageous. They haven't paid enough attention to Atlanta to even understand what this franchise has been through (and is still going through in the courts). Let's show them — and all the naysayers — we do it better here in the South and get organized to rock the Philips! For me, it's personal now!
In my college days we'd already be making T-shirts and raising hell. Let's start now!
December 12th, 2010
1:12 am
Agree completely. I have no problem with them getting a team again, just not someone elses. Unfortunately alot of these "fans" are just bitter and selfish in that they really don't wanna share their sport. It is personal now. the trolls on the blog forums are one thing when they attend a game in a mob and carry signs that say they want "my" team? that's another. If I had the money for season tix id have them by now but rest assured I'm taking whoever i can to games when I can.
December 12th, 2010
1:37 am
For anyone still up and interested, there's a replay of the game being shown now on DirecTV ch 635…
December 12th, 2010
1:48 am
Note to Rammer – don't sit the captain. Suck it Frenchies…….WE AIN'T GOING NOWHERE!!!!!!!!
December 12th, 2010
2:49 am
That goal of Little's was just sick … puck drops, BAM!, net. And everyone stands around going "wha?".
DiPietro did say after the game that he was still getting set when the puck dropped … he'd dipped his head to settle his mask, and when he looked up, the puck was in the net.
Oops …
As noted above, 2 pts is two points … and good teams figure out how to gain two points even when they're trying to redefine the work "suckage" … tonight wasn't near as bad as last night, but it's nowhere near where we want to be.
Still … it's two points now, and that can only help us later on.
BTW – did you notice we're only 4 pts behind the caps now?
December 12th, 2010
2:50 am
whoops … let's try "redefine the word" instead of work …
December 12th, 2010
8:50 am
While I'm not crazy about how we've played the last two games, give the boys some slack. It's a long season, and we can't play the A-game 100% of the time. Ain't gonna happen. But we still squeaked out a win on an off night and I'm happy!!!
December 12th, 2010
9:00 am
Way to start a new streak!
December 12th, 2010
9:17 am
To the "fans" from Quebec. This type behavior is not going to win you ANY love, ANYWHERE in this league. Tacky, classless, and completely ignorant. That is why your last team left you high and dry…..they didn't even want to play there with "fans" like you. I say you have just alienated yourself even further from the NHL and all things hockey outside of Quebec. Maybe they should be banned for life.
On a separate note, a win is a win like has been said, but Ramsey can't be happy with the lack of execution and the fact that the guys are getting away from what made them successful on their win streak. Dump…..chase…..check…..and when the other teams D gets tired of that, THEN you can get fancy. Until then, stick with it. Stewart's undisciplined penalty nearly cost us a come from behind 2 points. While he is putting up decent numbers it is time for him to realize he needs to work harder when it is needed for the team, including a check now and then….. I have come to figure out he isn't gonna use his size and wants to play finesse. Oh well.
Vancouver couldn't help us any last night.
December 12th, 2010
9:20 am
I love it, 2 points is two points….either way that is a game we would've lost in previous years, without a doubt. Ramsey knows what he's doing and I trust him. Tough game friday w a LOT of chances, to come away w 2 the day after, i'm very, very happy and proud of this team. Month of for Mason, hard to believe, good showing in my eyes.
As for the Quebec folks, i couldn't give 2 sh&ts as to what they think, want, say or do!!
December 12th, 2010
9:44 am
I hope Burmi's hand is ok, but it was kinda funny seeing him in the penalty box after the fight…..with a bag of ice on his knuckles. Looked rather Boulton-esque…….
Also, Rawhide could you clear up a question on the pronunciation of 'Diques???? Never mind, I'll use the one I was thinking of.
December 12th, 2010
9:46 am
The Bryan Little goal was awesome!!!! DiPietro was looking like he was asking for a mulligan.
December 12th, 2010
9:48 am
Rawhide, you forgot to cover the fight of the century between warriers Burmy and Tavy…
December 12th, 2010
9:49 am
Next home game should have some signs reading "Hockey is where it belongs…..ya'll. Now go back home to your NON-hockey town!"
December 12th, 2010
9:49 am
I'm fine with the Islanders moving to Quebec City. Their lease runs out in 2015 and the "Lighthouse Project" doesn't look like it's going anywhere. Their owner might be even worse than the Octocluster, and there's just as much (if not more) pro-sports competition in the area.
December 12th, 2010
9:49 am
I was with you all along Rawhide!!! Excellent blog as usual.
December 12th, 2010
10:00 am
I'm sure the wifes of those Diques fans have enjoyed there "boys" being away from home for a few days so they could find some "real men."
December 12th, 2010
10:03 am
Also, I'm chuckling at the Craps five-game losing streak…..rockin' a little less red these days.
December 12th, 2010
10:07 am
Rawhide: I understand their intentions; I was just pointing out that Atlanta is not the only troubled franchise. In the end, it's a business. Wang can't keep losing money any more than the ASG can. That said, there are probably more potential buyers for the Isles than for our poor little birds.
I need to put my money where my mouth is, I guess. But since the marketing department isn't doing too well, I think a grass-roots effort is in need. Fight fire with fire.
December 12th, 2010
10:46 am
i see that kovy has a total of 5 goals and is minus 18.
December 12th, 2010
10:52 am
The toy drive tix vouchers are good way to get a few cheap trips to Philips in Jan. and if you can get a group large enough together….the unlimited drink and popcorn deal has tix for like $10. Those w kids just need to find another group with kids and get to a game! We found a family from our soccer team and will be at the game on the 26th with the kids! Plus whatever Mr. Rawhide has up his sleeve in Jan gives people a chance to get to some games for relatively little $$$
December 12th, 2010
10:59 am
The Little goal is really the fault of the Isles' center. Its his job to turn around and make sure his goalie is set prior to getting into faceoff position. Especially with the Isles being at home and the road team must set first.
There are 3 teams in the NY metro area. Only the Rangers draw well. In my eyes, it is far more likely that the Isles would move over the Thrashers. That chance is small…but still better. The city of Uniondale has called Wangs' bluff. Lets see what he does. Let us remember he courted KC just a few years back.
Go Thrashers! Time for some payback vs. the Senators!
December 12th, 2010
11:00 am
"You don't play hard, you don't play". LOVE IT, LOVE IT. We've finally got a leader who know that true teamwork calls for equal contributions from all players. Dog it and you sit. Burmistrov will eventually win Selke after Selke. He's listening to Ramsey and playing like he used to play.
December 12th, 2010
11:23 am
Not to mention as a center he should have been aware Little was on his shooting side and had his skate/leg positioned for a block of that shot too. No fault of the goalie there, although he will bear the brunt of it I am sure. Centers practice just such chances, and like Little said, it's rare, especially at this level, that a chance like that scores. Great for him for seeing the chance and taking it! Get it to the net and good things happen! Please notice that Mr. Enstrom LOL
December 12th, 2010
11:36 am
Fugly win. Great fight!!!
In the press around the continent, the tide has turned. Most published reports about the Thrashers acknowledge the teams' turnaround and team concept and winning ways. With regards to the empty seats, they point out the fans extended bitterness towards a poor product put on ice by the owners.However, the writers are also asking, "when will the fans show up and support the team?".
I ask all fans reading this. When will we have a packed house? I'm talking about a Monday or Tuesday or other unspectacular day? This team is the best one we have ever had…I've wathched all of them…this one is the best, bar none. So what will it take? A viral outburst? Picketing ex-fans houses?
Enjoy this teams success now!!! Do it! Buy some tickets and have a brutally good time, cause it bloody well is just that!!! This team is worth the cost of getting in.
Nuff said.
December 12th, 2010
11:41 am
sorry, no spellcheck used in the post above.
December 12th, 2010
11:58 am
Rock the Red?? No. Bring it Blue!
December 12th, 2010
12:23 pm
Glovesave29 – great insight with your comment about the Isle's center being at fault. That's why I love this blog – I always come away smarter than when I started reading.
Rawhide – "the 'Diques" – thanks for another orange juice spit-take on my laptop!! Keep up the great work.
R.Stroz – a WAY overdue apology for not replying to your question about my seats at the Montreal game – I didn't get back on the blog after my post for two days.
December 12th, 2010
1:08 pm
A win is a win. I'm happy for it. But a loss to the Isles would have been a killer considering the way the team had been playing up to the Avs game. Effort needs to be better still against the Sens on Monday if the team is gonna come away with 2 points. Hopefully Bergfors will be back in there.
December 12th, 2010
1:09 pm
Weird game last evening…. Even the "thought" of losing to those guys is terrible.
Kept wondering why did the NYI announcer insist they were "beaten" by TWO flukey goals.
Don't they COUNT too ? Last time I looked it was 5-4.
Not too impressed with Mason's effort and little old zach was doing his normal standing around rountine…
But we did not quit and pulled it out. Let's hope for another big win Monday. Love beating those
"canada" teams, most of which are NOT very good !!!!
As for the quebec people… STICK IT ! Go Away we could care less, you have ZERO hope and all…
you LOSERS can try to do is relocate us and a few other teams… Go get an expansion team and lose for ten years and let's see how many people will show up at "your" games ????
Lastly, Has Everyone heard ENOUGH of this Washington TV Announcers on all the channels ?
Joe is not very good and this craig laughlin THING, is the absolute the NHL has on TV…
With pierre mcgire a close second I might add. I wish they would get rid of these two Terrible announcers, they Stink and laughlin is as big a GOOF as anyone I ever heard and that clangy voice, YUCK !
December 12th, 2010
1:34 pm
I'd trade Matt McConnell for Joe Beninati any day. Granted, I'd trade Matt McConnell for a bag of used pucks….
December 12th, 2010
2:19 pm
Maybe, … the "Diques" fans think the Thrashers are closer to being a Stanley Cup contender than the Isles, so … consequently … they'd prefer to get our club? Just tossing that out there. Either way, I doubt Quebec is getting an NHL franchise soon. The Islanders owner, Charles Wang, has publicly said that if he cannot get an arena deal in place, it's his plan to relocate the Islanders. In short, Wang wants the citizenry to foot the bill for a new arena, but yet … it would be Wang who profits from that arena. Can't blame Wang for 'tryign.' If the threat is real, and not just smoke being blown by Wang, then the Quebec fans should focus on the Islanders. The lease on Philips Arena isn't up until 2019, which is 8 years away. From the looks of those disgruntled Quebec fans, they've been waiting 15 years, not waiting it to be 16 years, instead of "2019 is A-okay with us" signs, referring to the Thrashers.
I understand the sentiment in Canada. Atlanta represents the DEEP south, and one of the notches of the Football belt. They don't think we're a hockey city. I'd submit that … hockey hasn't started in Atlanta until it has committed ownership towards winning the Cup. Then, and only then, could we honestly know if Atlanta is a hockey town or not. Back in the inaugural season, Atlanta sold out 38 of 41 home games. That was BEFORE hockey fans in this market figured out … that the ship was rudderless, serving to exist principally as schedule fodder for the other markets. Once proper ownership is installed in Atlanta, and every single Tier I player's agent realizes that, "Hey, we should look at Atlanta. Their ownership is committed to winning," then we can say … "Atlanta's a bad hockey market. They've assembled a top notch roster, the team wins consistently, and still no one shows up to see them." That's what hockey fans, in the Great White North, want to believe. They want to believe … that no matter how GOOD our team is, no matter how successful out team might become … that it'll still never sellout the building. I don't believe that, at all. All this team … has ever, ever needed … was accountability. When people answer for wins and losses, and oversight and direction of the team, then the message is sent. It's sent to fans. It's sent to players. It's sent to sports agents. It's sent to sports writers. It's sent to the Commissioner's office. Shoot, even Dave Reid, of "On the Fly" would get it. That continues to be my wish. In Quebec, they're argument is ostensibly …. we'll GLADLY sit through a couple of 45-point seasons, while selling out the building. Yeah, sure ya would. By Year Three, you guys in Quebec would be booing your team out of the building, holding up signs that read, "We waited 16 years … FOR THIS?????!!" And do you really have the corporate sponsorship that an NHL franchise needs? How's the economy in Quebec? People got a lot of surplus cash, that they'd like to blow on a team that finishes with 60-76 points every year? If so, then great for you guys. I just don't believe it. The truth I believe … is that fans support a team whose ownership is trying to win, but they don't support a team whose ownership isn't trying to win. And who owns the 'would-be' Quebec franchise would determine how well or how poorly the Quebec-based franchise would become.
December 12th, 2010
2:25 pm
did not get to see the game last night…but was slowdeen really skating on a line with antro?? wow,that had to be painful to watch.
December 12th, 2010
2:43 pm
We got lucky last nite. But every team has a few of those games. Hope that Bergy and Benny are back. It will be a tough game up in Senatorsville! So i read your history lesson. Thats great and i even learned a thing or two. But it still sounds silly. When you use it daily. Sometime change is good. Other wise we would still be in bellbottoms and drivin Pinto's.
December 12th, 2010
2:48 pm
Should move Vancouver to Salt Lake City, move Calgary to Birmingham, Edmonton to Houston,
Toronto to New Orleans, Ottawa to Richmond and lastly Montreal to Kansas City.
There is NO need for NHL teams in Canada, they are BORING to watch, NEVER WIN, Always
second best to U.S.A. teams and then those crap canada fans can form the canada Hockey League
and play all over Canada till their hearts' are content.
Would be great, we could have the NHL in US and they can have the CHL in Canada.
Got sick of seeing the tsn reports about last night's game. ALL they could lead with was those STUPID "fans", not the game or result, but those Loser quebec "fans" How low is that ?
But then tsn is very very LOW on my radar.
December 12th, 2010
3:10 pm
Great to meet Paminiski Friday night! Another fine hockey fan from Buffalo.
My first criticism of Rammer-Friday night's game plan against Colorado. Why in the world let a skating team like the Avalanche skate out of their own zone unopposed. Thrashers did not have the same luxury, the Avs had the forecheck on all night long. What's worse, alotta curious could-be fans in the crowd Friday night probably walked away wondering what the fuss is all about concerning the Thrashers. Great P.R. opportunity missed.
I warned of a weekend letdown on Friday since we were playing 2 struggling teams over the weekend. The Avs and Isles (to a certain extent) played desperate hockey, one team coming out on top. Thrasher needs to stop reading their national press clippings since they have earned nothing yet. HIT SOMEBODY!!!!! The majority of this team went soft this weekend. Stewart is the guy that deserves a seat in the press box, not Bergfors.
Finally, Quebec fans. Now we see why the league wants nothing to with Quebec City. Nor-dick fans are the biggest crybabies in the history of the NHL, they deserved Michel Bergeron as their coach. The "we deserve a team" demand shows their entitlement personality. If you are moving the Islanders, move them to Winnipeg. At least the Jets fans have showed some class in the process. Quebec City fans remind me of the useless Air France workers you encounter at Charles De Gaulle Airport in Paris. I have yet to understand the source of their arrogance. The only war they have ever won is when they fought themselves.
December 12th, 2010
3:25 pm
I say start the WHL back up – Give all the teams to cities who want them. The Diques and Jets come back. Hamilton gets their team. Then give 3 teams to DEEP south based teams. Make every game between US and Canada based teams a "Battle Between Countries" Then do as Soccer does in Europe. Promote the stronger teams to the NHL, Demote the under-performing NHL teams to the WHL. That way it would be nice to have a season with no Leafs, Islanders or Oilers in the NHL (I can dream, can't I?) Make sure all teams in both leagues are unable to relocate for a decade while trying this out. Both leagues pull from the AHL for call ups.
As the WHL grows it would move Hockey to more "Non-traditional" markets, grow the sport and stop all of this nonsense about cities "Not deserving teams" The thing our friends in the great white north seem to not understand is when non-hockey fans hear of your efforts to steal a struggling team it keeps them from seeing the game or learning the sport at all. That will come around to bite them in the @ss as Karma isn't pretty when they learn their teams suck. Atlanta has not had a fair shake at success for one reason or another until now, even the commissioner knew that when Schultz interviewed him last season. If we have no filled arena after a shot at success like we have now, then there is a problem that needs to be addressed!
Anyone want to tear apart my lame brained idea?
Have a great Sunday, Thrasher Faithful
December 12th, 2010
4:17 pm
Firstly, i'm french canadian, so, sorry for my english.
I think that some of you miss-understand the message from the Nordique-Nation.
They were there only to say that they want a team, nothing more.
They think that expansion is possible for Quebec and Winipeg.
They encourage the local team because it was the local team, only for that.
They wanted to show to Bettman that Quebec can be an hockey town
They wanted to show to investors that Quebec will fill the arena
They wanted to show to investors that they can make money in investing in building an new arena
They wanted to show that we did'nt forget The Nordiques
We like you all!!
December 12th, 2010
4:18 pm
HA HA HA!!! I love it when people talk about hockey towns. Let's face it MOST markets in ALL of professional hockey ARE NOT TRADITIONAL MARKETS!!! Very few markets stateside were hockey hotbeds over 20 years ago or even now after decades of having succesful NHL teams. Seriously, go look at American born NHLer's from 20 or more years ago or at our International rosters I betcha 90% of em came from both MN and MA. Over time we saw more and more talent coming from upstate NY, MI and so on, cuz it's not our sport remember?
Hockey has a lot of things that won't allow it to be as succesful as other sports and we might as well face that. First of all access to playing the sport is harder in the majority of the states as most of us don't live in cold enough climates and have rinks all around us, not to mention how much it costs to play the sport…so working class and poor kids almost can't play rec. league if at all let alone at a competitive level. I consider the ability for youth to play a team sport vital to it's commercial success, but I might be crazy.
Then let's face it, even going to NHL games can be ridiculously expensive too unless you get nosebleed seating, again leaving to working class on down the social ladder thinking twice about attending. In fact the NHL is second only to the NFL in average ticket prices (not by much) and there's 66 more games in it's season, CRAZY!!!
Hockey can not and will not become anything approximating a national sport in the US for the reasons I've stated. So far as most NHL franchises stateside, they have NO guarantee without perennial success that they'll be profitable and takes attention from transplants and some locals with enough curiosity to give it a shot and become fans (which isn't a safe bet).
If it was more viable, I'd imagine more Canadian and "traditional markets" would have NHL franchises than they do now. Just guessing. Again, the sunbelt has tons of northern transplants now and some of those up north now complaining about hockey down here might just one day find themselve living in say…Atlanta or Miami or Phoenix, whatever. I bet they'll want an NHL franchise if and when they wind up here or there.
December 12th, 2010
5:13 pm
François Robitaille – Thank you for your candor. While you have sent us a nice (and appreciated) comment please know our issues are with your countrymen who say that teams like Atlanta do not "deserve" a team while you guys do. It gets old and frustrating, especially when we have had a team stolen before.
Now translated to french via google:
Je vous remercie de votre franchise. Alors que vous nous avez envoyé un gentil commentaire (et apprécié) s'il vous plaît connaître nos questions sont à vos compatriotes qui disent que des équipes comme Atlanta ne "méritent" une équipe pendant que vous les gars ne. Il se fait vieux et frustrant, surtout quand nous avons eu une équipe volés avant.
December 12th, 2010
5:52 pm
François Robitaille (and other Quebec fans),
Then how about doing so at a Toronto, Ottawa, or Habs game? I don't think we misunderstand the signs that were held there about where hockey "belongs". You want to get the attention of the league…..try a Capitals game, or a Penguins game. Otherwise it seems like fishing. This town has already lost hockey once because of bad management. Bettman realizes there is a gold mine here if it is done right. Go pick on another team, another city, and leave Atlanta alone. If you are a fan of the game, then you understand the feelings that the "fans" coming to one of our games elicit from us. Good luck getting a team but don't do it at our expense. Now if Quebec is courting the Islanders…..than by all means make it known and again….good luck.
December 12th, 2010
5:54 pm
LOL didn't see your post til after I wrote mine…..took some time between dinner and kids. How funny they sound similar.
December 12th, 2010
6:01 pm
Is the league better with teams in Winnipeg and Quebec City? Absolutely…just not at the expense of another market. As a business owner, I COMPLETELY understand the league's desire to succeed in "non traditional" markets. You want to sell your product to the largest market possible. Atlanta at least deserves the opportunity to show it will support a good team that has owners that actually care about both the fans and the product. I think we will certainly show that we can. We are just the "team du jour". First it was the Blackhawks, Penguins (twice), the Isles, Predators, Panthers, Coyotes…now it is our turn. We are winning, and the fans and the city are starting to pay attention to the team again. I am excited for good 2011 and a full house at the Bulb.
Francois – you seem like a level headed Quebecois…the Nords left because Le Colisee was built in 1949. It cannot support NHL hockey. The community will no doubt come out for games, but there is a lack of corporate support and the ability to get a new arena…so what has changed there? The federal and provincial gov'ts won't kick in for one – so why would it work there? I am not asking to be a jerk, I honestly want to know it directly from someone who lives there. The Canadian blogs are filled with nonsense and you cannot have a civil conversation with anyone on this subject.
December 12th, 2010
6:09 pm
All good in the hood, Rob. Just shows we all feel the same way about the appearance of signs claiming we "don't deserve" a team. I'm getting REAL tired of hearing it, as we all are here in Atlanta.
What bothers me most is the posters on TSN.ca/nhl on the 3 different stories about what happened in Lawn Guyland last night tearing us to shreds. One minute they praise us for actually having a team this year, next minute they say how we suck and all southern based teams "don't deserve" the game. Makes me want the Thrashers to win the cup even more so we can all boast how the 6 teams in Canada don't "deserve" the cup for another year!
December 12th, 2010
6:26 pm
1 – GOOD – 2 points is 2 points – period
2 – GOOD – Lots of character shown by going nuts for 4 goals in the 3rd period of the 2nd game in back to back nights, regardless the opponent
3 – GOOD – Least we forget, despite a couple lackluster outings, we are still 9-2-0 in our last 11 with losses to the Pens on the road (very forgivable) and the Avs, who beat the Caps last night on the road, so maybe that loss wasn't as 'horrible' as first thought.
4 – GOOD – Being on a 9-2 streak with a 7 point lead over 9th place (THERE'S ONE FOR YOU BRENDAN – WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE HAD A 7 POINT LEAD TOWARDS A PLAYOFF SPOT??) and have the next 5 and 8 of next 9 against teams either below us or barely above us. Keep this streak going and Christmas will be very bright in BLUELAND.
5 – GOOD – With the Thirsty Thursday promotion, no excuse not to FILL THE PHIL Thursday against the team closest to us, the Canes, tickets are very affordable!!!!
December 12th, 2010
6:32 pm
BTW – a couple more points on Canada's "Hockey Belongs Here" program.
1- Went to NHL.com for video highlights of last night game and NO coverage of the 'Diques in attendance (lol, hope you folks enjoyed sitting on a bus for 22 hours)
2- A quick look at the standings and guess what? ONLY 2 OF 7 CANADIAN TEAMS WOULD MAKE THE PLAYOFFS AS OF RIGHT NOW. BOY HOWDY, CANADIAN HOCKEY RULES – NOT!!!!
December 12th, 2010
6:46 pm
If there is any confusion…..the asg wants to sell and is convinced atl is not a hockey town because of hawks. I was at their game last night and the building was empty! But, might I add a different crowd than the thrash..
The ASG will make millions….do not forget this point point. They don't get it or do they? They stuck with waddell and now they are paying the price or are they going to get the right price?
Did they hold on to waddell because they knew he would be a failure?
These guys are good and do not underestimate their love for a dollar bill.
December 12th, 2010
6:54 pm
On a separate note…anyone seen the Florida Everblades (ECHL) jerseys? They have a "Holiday jersey". I am not sure how the players didn't, I don't know, trip and twist their knee….sprain an ankle….get lost on the way to the games…..something, in order to get out of actually having to wear them. LMAO
December 12th, 2010
7:13 pm
waddell is TOTALLY TO BLAME, the man with NO hockey knowledge, how many times have we discussed who we "could" have had in the draft, but either agreed not to take a player to make another team happy or pass up solid NHL to be players and trade down for THAT player we wanted Alex Bourrett, Where is that great player NOW ?
I still hate don waddell and he should stoned for what he had done to hockey in Atlanta.
But last night on HNIC After Hours , guess what their "highlight" was… ???
Showing those quebec fans without a team and that IDIOT pierre stock saying they came to watch TWO struggling teams !!! What ??? We are NOT struggling, The Island sure is, but we have more points than ALL canada teams except Montreal.
"If" hockey is so everything in Canada, why has Toronto sucked for so long, Why after 40 years has Vancounver never won the Cup and Montreal has not been that good like they were at one time.
But why is Atlanta their favorite target ??? To relocate ???
You seldom hear Tampa mentioned or even Florida, Hey you canada fans, that's like way futher SOUTH than Atlanta. They don't go after Nashville or Dallas or Carolina, only The Atlanta Thrashers… I really hope all hockey fans understand the disaster don waddell was from the start and his stinch still fills the arena. But at least we seem to have a GM and an EXCELLENT coach
who get it, real HOCKEY People, something waddell never was or never will be !
Just go to canada waddell and help those quebec fans, I bet they'd love you !
December 12th, 2010
7:29 pm
They brought in a good coach/gm to dress it up to be sold.
Their worst dream is a packed house which would kill their theory.
Waddell was retained to sell.
I'm not saying our team is gone but simply that is their plan!!
December 12th, 2010
7:40 pm
Why do I have this feeling that Rachael Phelps (Major League owner of the Indians) has a share of the ASG????
December 12th, 2010
8:01 pm
Nicely done Fred
December 12th, 2010
8:14 pm
François Robitaille – our issues are based on the constant, unfounded "Thrashers moving-sold" rumors that originate from the media outlets across Canada. You wanna an expansion team, fine. But you can't expect us to play nice when the Canadian media continually attempts to disrupt and undermine this and other franchises.
I remember hockey in Quebec City and Winnipeg. Both cities lost their franchises for legitimate reasons, they were not highjacked after midnight under the cover of darkness. If you get it together and re-establish yourselves with expansion franchises, then good for you.
LAC-can you image the reaction of the Canadian media if we acted like the Quebec clowns did acted last night on Long Island?
December 12th, 2010
8:22 pm
rob: I actually kinda like those Florida Jerseys, hahaha
December 12th, 2010
8:26 pm
WHA not WHL and I am in favor of it!
December 12th, 2010
8:36 pm
I could see the Octotards and their marketing people doing something like this to "promote" the team……and really believing they were on to something. Notice the snowflakes on the socks? WOW is all I can say!!! I wonder what used car salesman must own that team?
December 12th, 2010
9:09 pm
WBF, my bad, but you understood. Thanks!
December 12th, 2010
9:29 pm
Washington is getting absolutely embarrassed right now in MSG.
December 12th, 2010
10:44 pm
Hope to meet up with Paminski again soon — the best part of hockey are all the friends! Give blood — play hockey! Go THRASHERS!
December 12th, 2010
11:35 pm
Gwinnett Fred, maybe April 2006?
December 12th, 2010
11:45 pm
WBF, Yes I think we should get a bunch of people in Kansas City to go to Edmonton and hold up signs with KC Scouts jerseys on. Those canada people would go NUTS !!!!
Watch the next New Jersey game, see all the empty seats !!! Lots of empty seats in Denver for our recent visit. There a good number of the same at Edmonton & Calagry games too !!!
Guess all Southern teams need to make playoffs to get these weird people off our backs.
Lastly, they have this p.j.stock on HNIC. He is a complete FOOL and is simply a JERK, a LOT like james duffie. He made a BIG deal of those quebec clowns last night and said we were struggling, NOT, we are playing GREAT hockey… NYI IS having all kind of issues. He is too STUPID to say the correct thing… What a JOKE HNIC really is !
December 12th, 2010
11:45 pm
When a bunch of Diques are mixed with Islandturds fans, that makes for a filthy, nasty crowd.
December 12th, 2010
11:53 pm
There are tons to teams with attendance problems this year. In addition to Atlanta, I've been to games in Denver and Dallas this year and they were far, far from full. In addition to the anger at Thrashers management, the economy is still in the dumps.
December 13th, 2010
1:01 am
Those holiday jerseys Rob mentioned ?
Make sure you have a trash can ready for the re-emergence of your last meal …
December 13th, 2010
1:37 am
thrash could always move to gwinnetts arena. better suburban location..smaller arena..better draw…relocate the gladiators to the ice forum
December 13th, 2010
6:11 am
I saw a lot of empty seats at the Garden last night as the Rangers decimated the Caps.
Well….. maybe they just left due to the blowout score.
December 13th, 2010
7:30 am
Jason, we have been talking about the Caps and their recent poor play. They have a number of issues, but for me, it all starts in goal in Washington. Caps' goalies are not making game-changing saves, like Pavs has been doing the past coulpe weeks. Every team encounters lulls during a game, that's when your goalie has to stand up and make a big save or 2. It's not happening in Washington; Hannan has yet to make a difference on defense.
LAC-better yet, let's take those Quebec fans to MSG and see how many of them end up in the East River with "heavy feet". There's certain arenas you do not infiltrate in the NHL unless you have an army to back you. Quebec fans were lucky to get out of Long Island with their collective skins. Right on concerning PJ Stock; he was a chump as a player, now he gets to do the same on national TV. Stock and Kelly Hrudey makes fools of themselves on HNIC. Hrudley needs to buy a comb or a hair brush.
December 13th, 2010
7:32 am
Gwinnett Arena is not even a remote possibility (except for maybe preseason). First of all, it is not large enough for NHL standards. Also, it would be pretty inconvenient for, well pretty much anybody who does not live in Gwinnett. Can you imagine fighting traffic on 285 and then 85N during rush hour trying to get to a weeknight game? At least with Philips being centrally located downtown, from almost part of the Metro area, you are going against traffic.
However, I think it would be great if the Thrashers played some preseason games in Gwinnett. For that matter, maybe Macon, Columbus, Savannah and even Augusta. Birmingham and Hunstville?
December 13th, 2010
7:58 am
Did anyone catch the Jet's strenght coach stick out his knee and catch the Dolphin punt "gunner" running by? Probably the most despicable act in sports I have ever seen.
December 13th, 2010
8:07 am
ATL Flames Fan-having the Thrashers play preseason games in local arenas is a GREAT idea. This is thwy many of the teams in the northeast do, they play preason games in junior hockey and / or AHL arenas. No better way of creating a fanbase.
December 13th, 2010
8:07 am
Of COURSE the xenophobic Canadian media is stirring up all of this talk. Let's look at what they have to write about – the Leafs are a joke and will continue their streak of being the only team to have not made the playoffs since the lockout. That "new" banner they have from the 1967 championship is getting old, yellow and brittle. The Canadiens have lost their best player for the season and their prized rookie is too busy yapping to concentrate on actually playing hockey. The Sens continue to struggle and their future is not exactly rosy. The Flames are old and ill conceived. Edmonton has a fantastic future, but are too young right now to do much but take their lumps. They play in a dump on an old stadium and are not likely to get another any time soon. The Canucks are a good team, but quite unlikely to be raising anything silver any time soon. They target Atlanta, because there's little interesting to write about with the teams up there, and the Blackhawks, Coyotes, Penguins and Tampa situations have (with league help) rectified themselves.
Quebec is a nice TOWN, not a city. They have a passion for hockey. But why did the AHL Rafales leave there after 2 years? The QMJHL Remparts don't fill their arena and tickets start at just $6.
Its so easy to sit from afar and throw stones. Doesn't help when clueless dolts like the morning team on 790 gets on TV and fans the flames without doing their due diligence. Bettman is not going to let this team leave. I am sure they want to find solid and caring ownership to give the team a legitimate chance to thrive.
Funniest part about it is the Canadian fan sits up on their high horses and castigates the league for trying again in Atlanta. They point out, in their minds "it failed with the Flames, but they try again with the Thrashers" – that we did not deserve a second chance. Now, please remind me…what is that that Quebec and Winnipeg are asking for again…?
December 13th, 2010
8:15 am
Keep in mind that flames did not leave due to attendance issues.
December 13th, 2010
8:17 am
That is true – it was the collapsing real estate empire of Tom Cousins. There were many local suitors to buy the Flames. Cousins ego would not allow the team to be based in Atlanta and he not be the owner.
December 13th, 2010
8:23 am
Speaking of the Flames –
Sure would like to see the Thrashers reverse their sentiment towards the Flames and have some sort of reunion night. Do it against our 1972 expansion mates – the NY Islanders. Don the old red jerseys (pun intended). Invite the old guys back. Raise a banner. Talk about a good way to fill an arena and get positive energy.
December 13th, 2010
8:25 am
I despise Cousins, and his crumbling real estate business directly led to him selling off the Flames as a commodity. However, he was not the only one hurting back then around here, as the whole local economy was in the dumps. If there would have been any suitors back then, the Flames would have stayed. (Déjà vu all over again?). Many years later, Ted Turner stated that he wished he would have bought the Flames and kept them here.
December 13th, 2010
8:30 am
The interview with Dan Bouchard is a great read. It brought back a lot of memories for me as a young ATLANTA Flames fan. Good stories, good comments from Dan.
December 13th, 2010
8:39 am
Had the chance to chat with Dan Bouchard at the Draft Party at TJ's couple of years back. Just standing there – so went up and introduced mtself and we chatted for a few minutes. Not really a big guy, but long arms and huge hands. Did manage to say that I had seen him play on TV and always thought he was one of the best. The man thanked me!! Was always a Bouchard fan and am moreso today.
December 13th, 2010
8:58 am
Vancouver looked very beat-able Saturday night against the Lighting.
December 13th, 2010
9:32 am
I think we already lost one team to Quebec, the Atlanta Knights in '96 correct? That meets our quota for supplying a hockey team to the provence of Quebec for the next 100 years. And with the Flames in the early eighties, that's two teams to Canada in the past 30 years. Yep, that fills that quota for good I would say.
December 13th, 2010
9:53 am
I was so mad at Tom Cousins, probable the way a lot of people are mad at DW or the ASG. There was several people who wanted to purchase the Flames and keep them in the city. His ego just couldn't handle the team remaining in Atlanta without him owning them. I was at a meeting/lunch where Tom Cousins was patting himself on the back for such a fine job that he had done at the East Lake Golf course and community. I then proceeded to his table and tell him that he did a fine job with the Golf Course but that I would never forgive him for selling the Flames. He just smiled at me and didn't say a word. I will never forgive him for that!
December 13th, 2010
10:20 am
WTH Center Ice? I couldn't get the Isles game on the Direct TV receiver in the living room, but was able to get it on my bedroom receiver. Poor Mrs. McGrath was very upset that me and McGrath Jr. stole "her" TV to see the game. She was so tired from holiday shopping, she was in the bed and asleep by 8 p.m., just as Oduya decides to drive the net. Our hoots and howls and fist bumps were not appreciated. As far as the Nords, seems like I read a Bettman interview in which he said he's like to see the league at 32 franchises–I know the league needs to stabalize, but as the economy improves and especially if national TV contracts grow, I think the league would look at expansion. And I've been saying for years that the Thrashers are blowing opportunities to engage regionally. There are quite a few hockey fans left over in Birmingham and a preseason game at the B'ham Civic Center would probably draw 5-8K and spark interest. I also believe that if a new Thrashers owner were to think logically, they would work a deal to place the Thrashers AHL franchise Birmingham and lose the Wolves affiliation. Makes sense simply because the franchise would be engaging a closer market. As AHL players developed, the B'ham fans would begin to follow the Thrashers more closely. More TV viewership, even if it's only a paltry 500 households and a couple bars tuning in, it can't hurt.
December 13th, 2010
10:20 am
I sure was hoping for some sort of help from Van against TB, especially at home!!!! Maybe it is a sign at just how much more improved the east seems to be, and the SE also……and don't forget this is all with the crumbling of #17 and his devils! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Maybe NYC has 2 teams the Canadiens should be looking at stealing and then not supporting!
December 13th, 2010
10:22 am
Much like the Sabres had Rochester. WNY followed the Sabres religiously.
December 13th, 2010
10:46 am
This week is an important week. (as most are) We play Ott (away) and Canes (home), who are tied in the 9 spot and will certainly will be busting a gut to gain 2 points (and not lose 2) on the #8 team. Wednesday, we play at TBL and we should be busting a gut to gain 2 points on them and finally beat them. Saturday, we host the NJ Devils and everybody will want to kick them to the curb.
December 13th, 2010
10:53 am
Oh, for those that think losing to the Avs at home was so terrible, the Avs are not a bad team. They finished 09-10 in the 8 spot of the Western Conf. with 95 points and a +11 goal differential. The Avs currently are in the 8 spot, the same as the Thrashers, with 34 points (Atl has 35) and again they have a +11 goal differential. A series between these teams could easily go 7 games.
December 14th, 2010
11:14 am
Hi there,
I'm from Quebec City and I took the time to read all of the comments above before writing mine. First of all, of course I understand how you feel about the idea of losing a team again. I remember how it was when we lost ours so i dont wish this to any fan out there, no matter what sport we're talking about. Some comments were pointed directly at us, saying we are classless, rude, etc etc etc, but I think most of you are just tired of being talked about as a team that might be moving soon. I get that and I don't think that you guys are trying to be jerks towards us. The point in going to Long Island is that it was the closest place to us that had enough empty seats so we could buy 1,100 tickets to the game. OK it was against Atlanta, so yeah you saw some banners about the thrashers. I didn't like it, I didn't agree with the fact that some are asking for your team. We were in NY because Gary Bettman's offices are in NY, so he could just hear us. We just wanted to say that, hey we exist, our economy's got way better than 15 years ago and we are ready to welcome a team back. Quebec City has gotten bigger, there is now more corporate support so yeah I think we deserve a team (just like you guys do by the way).
As for answeing a couple of the things you guys said, to glovesave29 for example, don't talk about filling the arena for the Quebec Remparts, i mean this is QMJHL, its junior Hockey, they are 16 to 20 yrs old guys playing hockey. But still, with an average of around 8,000 fans going there every night, that's the best average in this league and its also close to some averages NHL teams have. If you love the game, go see the Thrashers!! They are spectacular this year, fun to watch and I bet Atlanta people would love it!! I went to Atlanta before, went to see the Braves and the Falcons, Atlanta people are great!! I had so much fun out there!
However, to get a team back, we need a new arena. The Provincial government has already commited to 45% of the entire cost of a new arena, and the city another 30%, so there's not too much left missing. Yeah we are pumped up here. Has there been any comments said that shouldn't have?? Of course! Not all people are able to understand the entire situation (i'm not saying I do either).
As to LAC comment, we don't want Waddell either, he is the main problem in Atlanta, get him out of there before its too late. To World Be Free, yeah we would react exactly the same way as you do if we were in your position. Thats why im not blaming any of you for the way you guys react, just don't forget its not everybody here that want to steal the Thrasher from you.
Finally, to Darkhorse, Ok you're right, we ''stole" the Knights and Flames, but the US got the Nordiques and the Jets, so that's what, a 2-2 tie?? Moves just happen and its never a fun thing for the fans. Period.
Anyways, I just thought I would let you guys know that some of us hear you and get what you mean. If a demonstration like we did is what was needed to wake Altanta up and fill PHilips Arena, then I say we were sucessfull in promoting hockey and sharing our love for the game. Don't hate us, cause frankly we don't hate you and I apologize if you guys got offended by our comments. I wish all of you great holidays and in the meantime i'll be driving to Montreal to see some Habs games. Long live hockey !!
December 14th, 2010
11:14 am
I am from Québec city.
You Thrashers fans are so pathetic…
1st, you do not know nothing about hockey.
You are a Football city, period. It seems that even the Hawks ( NBA ) and Braves ( MLB ) are looking for more fans and bigger crowd !?!
What is the point for keeping a NHL team in Atlanta when the average crowd is around 6,000 people since their 1st season ??? And you say you deserve a hockey team ? HA HA HA
Start really supporting your NBA and MLB teams as this should be your sport business priority.
Ours is hockey. That's it !
December 14th, 2010
1:06 pm
Wow, where to start? I've read pretty much everythin' you guys wrote! First off I do get where you're comin' from! I get all your comments. Some of 'em were good and legitimate… and some of 'em were just well… ignorant! And I do apologize for some comments comin' from some of us here in Quebec City. They should put theirselves in you're shoes… they maybe a lil' too young to get what it's like to loose a team you so dearly love… I do! I was 16 at the time and the Nordiques meant EVERYTHING to me.
I was at the game at Nassau Coliseum saturday night.Made the trip and every second was woth it. I had a GREAT time and so did the Islanders fans. Believe me!!! We acted with class and passion. Two longtime friends and Islanders season tickets owners shook my hands tellin' me we gave 'em an evening they will rememnber for the rest of their lives. Some of em told us they've never seen this since the 80's. I'm so proud we showed our unconditionnal passion and love for hockey while doing so with class and respect. You guys that said otherwise in your post are just plain wrong. I spoke with a lot of them and, even though they were a lil' bit confused and reticent at first… they embrassed our presence and got the message we were tryin' to send Bettman's way!
The Trashers scored with 7 or 6 minutes to go… it was 5-3. A lot of fans wnet home. We the decide (the 1100 of us) to join the remaining Isles fan at ice level behind Mason's net. They stood and gave us an ovation and we were "high-fivin'" them as we made our way down! Special moment and I didn't expect that at all. The last 5 minutes were awesome!
I just want to comment on some of your thoughts…
Glovesave29 … First off QUEBEC CITY is not a town but a CITY. You'd be surprised. And I'm a Quebec Remparts season ticket older (JUNIOR HOCKEY) and I can tell you that the average crowd is almost 11 000 ( 10 256 per game to be exact ) and it's been that way since 2006. Oh and its FULL (15 300) during most of the playoffs. And the tickets aren't starting at 6$ (for young kids) they Start at 14$… that pisses me off when people say things they know nothin' about just to make a point!
And by the way guys… when someone says that a team is struggling… they mean moneywise / attendance.
Rob wrote : "To the "fans" from Quebec. This type behavior is not going to win you ANY love, ANYWHERE in this league. Tacky, classless, and completely ignorant. That is why your last team left you high and dry…..they didn't even want to play there with "fans" like you."
WOW Do I need to comment on this. This is just a false and completely ignorant statement.
LAC wrote: "you LOSERS can try to do is relocate us and a few other teams… Go get an expansion team and lose for ten years and let's see how many people will show up at "your" games ????"
Funny you brought it up… I do wish for an expansion team and try to make it a stanley cup contender. Cause I don't want to "steal" anyone's team. But your comment shows your ignorance. The Nordiques played from 1979 to 1995. There were hihs and lots of lows… especially between 1988 and 1992. And for all of those 16 years… yep… the building was FULL every night ! We lost our team (overnight i might had ) solely beacuse the owners asked for a salary cap wich the league didn't want back then… and the Quebec City mayor wasn't in favor of building a new arena.
Well both of those things changed. The league finally instated a salary cap and our mayor announced that we're in the process of building a new Colisee wich should be ready in 3 or 4 years!
Remember we have no team and no new building and yet all of the 73 luxury boxes sold out in a couple of months. Thats corporate support. And 2000 (like myself) people bought their future seat beetween 4500$ and 1500$. So don't you worry LAC… the building will be sold out every game even if the team looses. Just like it was in early 90's when the Nordiques finished the season last with just 31 points. Coliseum capacity 15 399 average for that year was 14 387. Not bad hein… what's yours again for this season ( and Trashers are winning ) ???
Almost 40% of the league's revenue comes from the 6 canadian teams! So the league should bring back a team in Quebec and Winipeg… two teams that moved because of reasons that don't exist nor apply anymore. Wether ist via expansion or relocation I don't really care. But I honestly do wish that you guys turn this attendance thing around 'cause you have a GREAT product on the ice.
December 14th, 2010
1:09 pm
Vectak – Shut up you whining shriveling dique. If you loved the sport, you would want to see it played in as many venues as possible.
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The problem I've had with that is I don't know if "single app" means Bridge comes with Photoshop or if I'd have to pay for Bridge separately. Bridge has become every bit as important to my workflow as Photoshop and I don't want to go back to Lightroom.
I believe when you sign up for the single app, you get everything you would have gotten with the boxed version. I could be wrong, but why not just ask? When you go on the site it gives you the option to chat with a representative.
Exactly. Once they have you, they'll milk you for whatever they can. They had no reasonable technical reason to remove the owned versions - they just did it because it won't make them as much money. In order to make more money they will have to increase prices.
Don't go near it.
You got it for free?
Being kinda snarky I guess. The money is paid. Going forward I don't have to pay any more to continue using it.
Yeah... but I don't want to bother them because I have no actual interest in buying Creative Cloud. I'm sticking with CS6.
I am curious (this is not a slap). At what price point will you not be getting value? Is it $24.99? $29.99? $39.99? $59.99? Or more?
And, if adobe decides to raise prices above that point, say, within 3 years, what is your plan?
I wonder if we will at some point see "metered" pricing, i.e. charging per hour of program use or per file saved?
Truth be told, the older versions of PS are good enough for most, and this may help them come to realize it.
Just think, the longer you use it, the lower the cost per month.
Yep... and you'll probably need it for alittle over 40 years... and at $20 a month for over 40 years... you're lookin at OVER $10,000!...
LOL..LOL..LOL ...and you think it'll stay at $20.00 a month for HOW LONG?!?!?!?!? Sorry to say you've grossly underestimated the cost!
I don't lease cars either. If you keep trading a car in for a new car and another lease, you never stop making payments. All three cars in my garage are free and clear.
I have CS5 and I assume that Adobe is convinced they can't improve the product enough to convince users to upgrade, thus forcing them to a Software As A Service (SAAS?) model to generate revenue. All the more reason not to pay a monthly fee until after the software has features that warrant the SAAS pricing model.
I need to find the serial number to my CS5, I know it is around here somewhere. I recall that I downloaded my last two updates (CS4 and CS5) from the Adobe website and don't have CDs. For the last 6 months my CS5 has crashed when I use certain plug ins. I have had to remember to save my work constantly to avoid loosing it before using the plug in. I am using a MacPro with 12 Gigs of Ram and a scratch disk so I assume the software needs to be reloaded and I don't have a disk. This is why my next stop may be something other than Photoshop. Instead of reloading old software to fix glitch, I would have purchased the next version of Photoshop (I know I skipped CS6) and fixed it that way, but I don't want to buy into the SAAS model.
That's $269 more than they ever got from me... and yeah... nothing but acid rain coming out of that cloudburst...
My thoughts exactly.
This will probably evolve into what the cable and satellite companies do: Just keep raising prices until you threaten to pull the plug and then they'll drop it a bit. Maybe $100 down to $80. If you cancel, then you might get an offer to come back for $19.95 per month in a few months. Really is a big money grab to see what you will pay for.
I got that same impression on their questionnaire about "$9.95/mo. and Maybe too much for Lightroom?" (Which the said they'd leave off The Cloud SAS model, but who knows?).
Problem is people sign on for this new stuff and then we end up with 2-year Verizon Family plans for $650/month which is absurd and some pay more for their phone bill than house payment. Until people stop jumping on each new "I have to have it" plan, they will continue to seek even higher rental fees for service or software.
Adobe needs to step up their game plan for new features to make people "want to buy their product" instead of removing incentives to purchase or rent it. Wrong direction, and very overpriced for what some app people will end up doing with the cell-phone generation who may end up using some other post-processing app over anything Adobe makes or rents.
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I already own the full suite so for me there is no reason to sign up for a 1-2 years.
My personal opinion is short term it is a good deal long term not so sure.
Adobe is sort of reminding me of a crack dealer. The first sample is free, but as you get addicted the price keeps going up.
Just like the crack dealer, that is exactly what they're hoping and counting on you to say...
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Former Walt Disney Studios president Mark Zoradi will be the 2010 recipient of the Briner Impact Award, given semi-annually "to recognize those who have made significant contributions in the world of media," according to a recent press release.
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Easy Recipe: Lemon Rosemary Broiled Salmon
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People are often timid when it comes to cooking fish, but it's one of the EASIEST things to get right. Keep the ingredients simple and the cooking time short, and you'll have a winner. Rosemary isn't typically an herb you'd think of pairing with salmon, but it's surprisingly perfect in this dish. If you prefer dill or chives, you can use those instead of rosemary. Enjoy!
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Ferry has done sooo much more for my child than did her previous school, Richard. She was FINALLY placed in the Magnet program with wonderful Mr. Fisher. She is now HAPPY, is no longer getting bullied and loves school. She has a whole classroom full of friends instead of 3-4. The old school was not able to challenge her, just give her extra on top of the usual. One exception: Mr. Swansey- excellent teacher, understood her capabilities and really challenged her!
Ferry is a wonderful school! Excellent Magnet program for 4/5, just a great place to send your child!
The school is very good and would be great with new leadership. Ferry houses several special educations classes and services; as well as a magnet program. Academic and behavior curriculum is best practices and systematic. Parent power at Ferry is strong. Its PTO is active and parent room helpers are prevalent. The PTO holds plenty of fund raisers and supports many after school celebrations. The PTO will provide a list of tangible outcomes for the funds earned. The principal is nice but lacks true leadership (a new principal would be nice). The teachers are positive, involved and accessible. The kids are typically respectful and playful.
It takes the talents of many dedicated professionals to create the quality learning environment that exists at Ferry School. The teachers, prinicipal, office staff, support staff,and custodial staff take pride in serving the students and parents of Ferry School. The building is maticulously maintained, the teachers are continuosly reflecting on the instruction they provide to meet the individual needs of their students. The principal is the instructional leader of the building and sets high expectations for the instruction our students recieve. There are clear behavior expectations set for the students and a conscious effort is made to acknowledge the behaviors that demonstrate those expectations. When necessary, discipline issues are handled in a manner that supports the District Code of Conduct. It is the dedication of our PTO and the willingness of our staff to go above and beyond that brings the Ferry Family environment to life.
Oh my, I must disagree a bit with the previous (Feb 2012) post! Ferry is a wonderful school with very dedicated teachers! This is my oldest's last year there and she has had a great experience thus far. No, I am not happy with the Spanish program (I disagree that the kids should lose library time/instruction for it), however, that is a district issue, not just our school. In the September packets, PTO information is included that DOES tell you what the fundraising monies are used for. There are great events for the kids every year- such as the Fall Festival, Santa Dinner, family fun nights, and the Ice Cream Social. Money is used to enhance classroom libraries, the school library, and other great (and often necessary) things. I feel that my kids are receiving an excellent education and elementary experience at Ferry! Both daughter and son have had no problems with any of the teachers or any other students. I haven't noticed many rude or disrespectful students, although I am sure there are some out there, as are everywhere. However, good behavior begins at home! The district did implement a "Keys to Success" program last year that rewards students for doing the right thing.
The kindergarten teachers seem excellent and they get kids excited about school with lots of fun activities on and off-curriculum. The principal seems to lack organization but is friendly and helpful. The students are learning a little bit of Spanish now, but they are not graded, so they are not very motivated to retain anything. The parents, often fickle and self-centered, seem to have run of the place. If a new teacher doesn't seem wonderful right away, they are gone in a few weeks. Kindness and respect are apparently not taught here from observing kids at the after-school program and on the playground.The teachers do seem happy, with no lack of resources. I would prefer they use proper English more often when speaking and in written homework sheets. The school is constantly doing fundraisers without telling us what the funds will be for, and I have yet to see anything tangible from all that money. Not a bad place. With a good manager, it could turn out more motivated students and better citizens. But I think the parents would protest that, unfortunately.
Teachers are older, no young exciting teachers. Teachers are not well equipped to handle boys or any They do not offer differentiated instructions. Poor quality instructional personal. No foreign language offered.
Our school has a fabulous combination of teachers, administration, and parent involvement. There is a high level of comunication and participation among all. The children have a great set of values from home which leads to a safe, friendly environment. The children learn at their level: grade level, cluster, or magnet programs are available.
Pleasantly surprised with the teaching staff. Talk with the teachers they are great!
Ferry's a great school. Attentive faculty and administration. Outstanding parent involvement. Good kids that work hard at academics and extra curr.
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Remember, keep this and all other medicines out of the reach of children. Never share your medicines with others and only use this medication for the condition prescribed.
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