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The ISRS discusses implementation detail only if it contributes to feasibility or cost.
This document will be identified as Host Configuration: Workstation Administration Initial Software Requirements Specification. Future references to ISRS refers to this document unless otherwise noted. The CSI referred to in this document, unless otherwise stated, is Host Configuration: Workstation Administration.
This project does not discuss the issue of backing up the local disk of individual workstations. The reader of this ISRS should assume that there is no important data on the workstation or an external backup mechanism is available. Backup issues are addressed by the Andrew II Backup and Archiving Project.
Another aspect that is not directly addressed is account management. Password file distribution and configuration will be treated as any other file in the CSI. The actual process of building of a central password is outside of the scope of this document.
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To further complicate matters, individual vendors have begun to offer their own system administration tools. Examples of these tools include SCAMP and FullSail from DEC, netinfo from NeXT, and SMIT from IBM. Currently, these systems do not interoperate with each other or provide a common interface to their functions. Many of these tools come with unreasonable limits, such as limits to the maximum number of machines, or limits that require the all system management operations to go through the tool. Thus, most of these tools cannot interoperate with the existing management tools that large sites already use.
While it would be ideal if each user could reconfigure their environment dynamically, it does not seem to be feasible given the technology widely available. For example, it would be desirable for two users, using the same machine at the same time, to have environments tailored to exactly what they wanted. Although John Furlani's Module system [FURLAN91] provides a mechanism to accomplish some this, it would be rather awkward to integrate it with our software management system. At this time, reconfiguring workstations with different software packages appears to be the most practical approach.
It is believed that the current Andrew model can achieve this goal, to a certain extent. This model can be described in two ways. The first approach is to describe the model as layered, as shown in Figure 1. The core functionality of the system is provided by a small, technical, central staff. They also provide general and commonly used services. The next layer is the departmental administrators. Departments and organizations may have special configurations and configurations that span their entire computing community. This layer allows them to make custom changes without having to duplicate the work already done by the central staff. The final layer is the individual workstation. This allows for machine specific changes to be incorporated into the management system.
The Andrew model can also be thought of as a pipeline through which software flows, as illustrated in Figure 2. The central administration provides the main software feed. This feed is taken by the departmental administrators and modified or combined with any additional departmental services and software and then passed on to the local workstation. The local workstation then has the opportunity to make its own customization and to incorporate software and services that are specific to it.
The model does not constrain the feeds and layers to only central, departmental, and local. Any number of feeds or layers can be introduced after the central layer. For example, in our environment, an additional college tier could be added between the central administration and the departmental administration. The central layer is presumed to always be there as there is probably some organization that will be providing the base systems. Also, a local layer may or may not exist, depending on if there are any workstation specific changes required.
The Andrew model provides a default management environment where software is automatically installed and updated. This environment also has the flexibility to allow departmental or local administrators to customize that environment. Those with technical resources can use those resources to fine-tune the environment rather than build a custom environment from scratch to match their needs.
The current Andrew model has been built around a strong central administration, and individual workstations either use the system or do not use it. However, the model doesn't preclude the ability to lessen the dependence on the central administration. The model allows the possibility for a departmental or local administrator to merge the output of two central administrative feeds. In general, it is doubtful that this will be necessary.
The broadest goal of the CSI is to provide a system that performs and allows for:
Because of the variety of computer systems and implementation philosophies, it is very possible that a single solution is not available or even ideal. If this is determined to be the case, then CSI specific to the implementation flavor will be chosen or developed.
The Andrew System includes approximately 600 workstations at Carnegie Mellon University. These workstations encompass individual workstations for faculty and staff, publicly available machines in computer clusters, and service workstations that perform a variety of tasks such as providing UNIX access or running the mail and backup systems. This management system uses a set of tools, package and mpp, for maintaining the workstations. The system is commonly referred to as just package.
Package, by itself, is very simple. Package ensures that files and directories on the local workstation match those on AFS [SATYA85], a distributed file system present on all Andrew workstations. If they do not match, package replaces the local file with the one from AFS. If the file does not belong then package will remove that file.
Without mpp, it would be quite difficult for customization to occur. Mpp is a macro preprocessor that creates the configuration files that package uses. Depending on what variables are defined, mpp will generate different package files from the same configuration files.
The benefits of the system include:
SUP is used by the School of Computer Science and the Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Carnegie Mellon to maintain over 1,000 workstations. As with many of these packages, the purpose of SUP is to ensure that multiple machines will automatically have the same software base.
SUP separates software into different collections. Each collection is a logical "unit" of software. For example, all the files and directories needed for gnu-emacs would form the gnu-emacs collection. To distribute the collections, SUP takes a client/server approach. For each collection, there is a SUP server that exports it.
Some benefits of SUP include:
mkserv maintains over 1,000 workstations in the Athena environment at MIT. Athena recognizes that managing many machines that are identical is not that hard a task. The difficult task is trying to manage multiple machines and allow customization to occur.
mkserv uses a configuration file to determine what services a particular machine should have. After mkserv determines what services are on the machine, all of the files required for the service to function are copied to the local disk.
The benefits of mkserv include:
Synctree used at the University of Michigan's College of Engineering, specifically the Computer Aided Engineering Network, to manage over 1,000 workstations. The management paradigm does not differ much from the other packages; there is a master copy of software on a distributed filesystem and synctree makes sure that what is on the local disk matches the master copy. It is believed that this synctree is different than the one used by mkserv.
The master copy on AFS for synctree is separated into different sections known as templates. There is a base template, called GENERIC, that loads the basic operating system for any given system type, such as SunOS 4.1.1 for Sparcstations. Since all workstations are not alike, the next level creates a "class" distinction for each workstation. Each workstation can belong to several classes with one class having precedence over the others. The classes give a group identity and thus certain group characteristics to the workstations. For example, a workstation could have the class of being a STAFF workstation or a LAB workstation. In addition, there is the BETA class that uses software being tested. Finally, there is the workstation specific template directory. That directory contains files that are specific to the workstation, such as /etc/fstab.
The benefits of synctree include:
The Open Software Foundation's Distributed Management Environment strives to unify network and system administration. Although the DME is still currently under development, if it were adopted by all vendors it would provide a consistent management environment across multiple platforms.
The DME has the potential to create a standard mechanism for initial software installation. This is the case when one has just purchased a workstation and there is nothing on the disk. Right now, each vendor has their own installation procedure and many management tools, such as package, require that the vendor's installation tools are used until the point that the local management can take over. Often this transition is not very smooth and requires modification to the vendor's installation system. Other times, the management system is restricted by the initial load system. For instance, while SunOS offers an initial network installation procedure, it makes it difficult to do more than one installation at a time.
Some architectural problems of the DME deserve some attention. First, there is the sheer bulk of the system. It is quite possible that in order to use the DME, it is necessary for one to have all the supporting infrastructure, such as the DCE. This may significantly limit the number of machines that can use it, as well as greatly increase the time and resources required to install and use the DME. Secondly, the OSF process makes the DME more vulnerable to the problems that occur when anything is designed by committee: a product that can do everything, but can do nothing well.
Two aspects of the DME apply to this document: the "object-oriented" management environment and the software distribution and installation component. The only references that are currently available are more marketing than technical. As a result, the two following sections are mostly summaries of the two references listed above.
The implementation of this system involves creating a three-tiered approach. At the bottom of the tier, is the individual node or workstation. This level allows for any individual customization and configurations that may occur. This is also to designed to make the DME useful for smaller sites. The second tier is the "cell" level. As with DFS [OSF92], this is a management abstraction to allow different organizations to have independent management domains for their group of workstations. This will allow management operations to be made available to entire groups of machines. The final tier is the "enterprise" level. This tier does not access the individual workstations but rather sends management operations to the cell.
The only PC system found at this point is a product that has yet to be released. This program does software distribution based on `cloning.' That is, it allows for a single configuration to be identically copied to multiple machines.
Investigations into the Macintosh/PC world are continuing as more systems appear and this document will be updated to reflect these changes.
Software using setld is compartmentalized into different software subsets. Each subset consists of the following items:
rdist is a rather old, and in use, UNIX software distribution tool. The reviewed version, however, is a new version, version 6.0, from University of Southern California.
rdist is a file based distribution system. Files to be distributed are "pushed" from a central server to all the clients. The files that are distributed are described in a single configuration file. The configuration file specification is not as bad as package, as wild cards are allowed and mode, owner, and group information is taken from the file rather than having to be specified explicitly.
The benefits of rdist include:
Each model has its benefits and drawbacks. For example, the "push" model is best for machines whose configuration must remain consistent and not change unless someone explicitly changes. This is quite useful for machines providing services used by the community.
The "pull" model, however, is much more scalable as the servers have much less work to do. This model assumes that if something goes wrong, someone will contact you to fix it rather than you having to go out and fix it immediately. Also, in the case that a distributed filesystem is present, the distribution mechanism tends to lean towards pulling from the distributed filesystem.
Items to be reviewed in the next revision include the following items: Tivoli's WIZdom, POSIX 1007.2, HP's Software Distribution Utilities, and Radar.
To the user, the CSI will provide a functioning system where the following software can be automatically updated:(2)
Ideally, direct editing of configuration files should not be required. Instead, there should be a user interface. See section section 6.1.13 on page 35 for more details on the user interface. Novice users may prefer to use a user interface while experienced users may want the flexibility of editing (or even writing programs to edit) the configuration files directly.
Once a configuration is created, the user should not have to change the configuration in response to central changes. For example, central administration should be able to upgrade the operating system without forcing users to change their configuration files. However, if a user has installed an application locally that is incompatible with the newer version, then a configuration change may be required. In essence, the user has administrative control over the aspects that he wants control over and delegates responsibility of the aspects that he does not want to deal with to other administrators.
The process that the central administration would have to proceed is enumerated as follows:
After this step is completed, the operating system should be distributable by the CSI.
Ideally, no further action would be required by the central administration to maintain the workstations. Day to day maintenance would be done automatically or on each reboot. For example, new password files would be distributed by the CSI without any central intervention.
Unfortunately, software rarely remains static. While the operating system may not change very often, new application software and new versions appear, and old unused software and older versions should be removed. Removal, is by far, the easiest part. Given that the CSI compartmentalizes the software, removal is just removing the pointer to the collection and then waiting for that removal to propagate to all the client workstations. Installation can also be as simple as installing into the CSI and waiting for the version to propagate to the clients. Compartmentalization also aids in the "backing out" process. As long as previous versions are kept, broken software can be easily removed from the production environment and previously working versions can be restored.
It is important to point out at this time that the CSI server need not be a real machine. In the current AFS environment, the directories in which files are stored are not directly accessible by the server machines, unlike NFS. Installation of software into AFS involves using a client to store the files onto the AFS server. If the CSI uses a distributed filesystem, such as AFS or DFS, as a method of distribution, then the distributed filesystem should be considered the CSI server.
As discussed in section section 4.9 on page 26, many vendors avoid the multiple workstation installation problem by simply distributing the "raw" form of the collection to each workstation. This is not acceptable as it violates the simplicity requirement in section 6.1.11 on page 35.
In order to provide some concrete goals, some specific numbers will be provided. In the event that design and/or implementation proves these numbers to be unfeasible, then a more realistic number will be chosen, based on the data provided.
It is assumed that the workstations will be connected via a relatively high speed local area network, such as Ethernet. There must be provisions, however, to offer basic functionality of the CSI to machines connected via low bandwidth connections, such as SLIP. This issue will be addressed in detail in the Docking component.
The Andrew II project is assuming a OSF DCE/DFS [OSF92] based environment. We expect to have over 4,000 workstations by the year 2000.
It is very unlikely that the CSI will become the standard campus environment. Many organizations may adopt the CSI and remain administratively separate, as discussed in Section section 6.1.15 on page 36, but it is quite possible that many of the large organizations will not see the need nor be able to justify the expense of switching to a new system when their existing systems already suit their needs.
Note that the term user is used in the same context as described in section section 5.1 on page 27.
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"By empowering the credit union management with the CU*BASE toolset and the associated professional services available from our network, the only thing limiting the credit union to increase product and service offerings to their members is their own desire and creativity," said Greg Smith, CU*NorthWest CEO. "It starts with a desire on the part of the credit union to change its future and in this case a peer partner with the spirit to collaborate. Then we contribute a truly disruptive price and put virtually every tool we have within reach of the credit union."
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Kevin Youklis made his first appearance at Yankee Stadium since being acquired from the Red Sox Sunday. When he saw that the media contingent surrounding his locker in the White Sox clubhouse, he said described the small size of it as "awesome" compared to the Boston media.
Youkilis is off to a quick start in his first three games with Chicago. He came into Thursday night hitting .417 (5-for-12) and hitting .423 (11-for-26) in his previous six after going hitless in 18 at-bats.
The traded ended tension in Boston for Youkilis who had lost playing time to rookie third baseman Will Middlebrooks and when he spoke, he admitted he was relieved that it happened.
"Oh yeah, I'm definitely over it," he said. "The past few days have been a lot easier. Once that first series is over, kind of getting on a plane for the first time and knowing where to sit and where people sit on the bus, it's like being a rookie again. I'm over that now and I am just excited.
"I'm in a better place mentally. I'm just enjoying myself. So that's the best part about it. My wife called me and said you look so happy out there and it's so great to see you out there and having fun.
As for why his relationship with the Red Sox eroded under new manager Bobby Valentine, Youkilis conceded that he did play well but did not elaborate otherwise.
"That'd be a question you'd have to ask the people in the other organization," Youkilis said. "I just came up every day and tried to do my job. I didn't play well and that's on me. I got off to a slow start and it went downhill from there.
One thing that is certain about Youkilis' mindset is that he doesn't miss the hype surrounding the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry that he participated in 97 times.
"No. I'm not worried about that. It's a better thing as a player when you don't have that rivalry with all that hoopla, a 4 o'clock game on Saturday, an 8 o'clock game Sunday.
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Clay Buchholz was cleared by doctors and the Red Sox to attend a charity event at Foxwoods casino, a day after being released from the hospital following a case of esophagitis.
Buchholz was placed on the disabled list Sunday due to gastrointestinal sickness.
The Sox pitcher, however, was criticized by 98.5's Toucher and Rich and Boston.com's Eric Wilbur for attending the event so soon after his release from the hospital. Buchholz did not drink at the event.


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Brigantia, north Tipp's own timelords of Doom, have emerged in recent times as the mid-west's premier metal band and 2010 has seen the trio gig all over and the release of their Chronic Argonauts demo to national acclaim. The Bleeder caught up with the band's vocalist and guitarist, Dave Gleeson, to talk doom, demos, and distribution deals…
What's this I'm hearing about a distribution deal?
Dave: I'm very happy to say that Altsphere have decided to release our debut album in September of next year. Altsphere is a DIY label and shop based in France that's recently re-opened after a few years' hiatus. They deal not only with doom, but also black, thrash, sludge etc.
The Chronic Argonauts demo has been well received at home and abroad. Having binned two previous demos that you were unhappy with, did you feel any pressure when putting this one out for review?
To be honest, no. We felt that we had been guilty of releasing sub-par material in the past so we agreed to spend the extra time on this demo and step up the quality control somewhat. The decision to record with Ciaran Culhane was one of the best we have made; finally someone who was able to demystify the recording process for us and give us the sound that WE wanted. I listened to the demo recently and I can safely say that it is the first recording that I've been proud of. That said, it is only a demo and we have achieved nothing yet.
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Mick, some will recognise you from your previous band The Swarm. You had some good times with that band, what were the highlights?
Mick (Guitar): The Swarm was my first band and I have nothing but good/blurry memories of that time. The days of The High Stool, The AMC, decent gigs in Dolans and a young scene starting in Limerick. There was us, Discord, Victim X, Blessed Darkness, Mysteries End, Roper, The Poke, Calzino Fiasco to name a few, playing what was then considered to be extreme music in Limerick. You had the annual Noizefest gigs and also whatever big bands The AMC managed to bring to town such as Labrat, Stampin' Ground, Skinlab, Medulla Nocte, Narcosis etc. and we were lucky enough to land some decent support slots in Limerick, the highlight being Hatebreed. My favourite gig was when ourselves and Discord supported Firebird and met the legendary Bill Steer(formerly of Carcass). We avoided all the Carcass questions but as the night wore on and the alcohol set in we tormented him with nothing but Carcass, Carcass, Carcass!!! Absolutely sound bloke! We did a good lot of gigs outside of Limerick too including the Day Of Darkness festivals, I think it could have been twice or three times, can't really remember. Good lineups there too including Dismember, Entombed, Candlemass, Sabbat etc. The biggest gig we ever did was supporting Anthrax in 2003 at the Ambassador.
We recorded two CD's: "Bruise The Flesh To Black" and "Six Acts of Atrocity" and both were well received. We started to record a third CD which was a self-recorded affair but soon afterwards the band broke up. I still have the sessions somewhere. Those songs were the most extreme songs we had and in hindsight, I think paved the way for Zealot Cult.
Zealot Cult very much sounds like the natural successor of The Swarm and your own influence on the band's sound is clear. However, the band also comprises former members of Victim-X, namely Jay (guitar/vocals) and Conor (bass). How have the lads shaped the band's sound?
Well, there's two ex members of The Swarm that wrote all the music in The Swarm so I think regardless of musical style, we're still going to have the same leanings. Basically we wanted to go more extreme with the last band and that wasn't going to happen, musical differences and all that. We had many drunken notions with the lads from Victim X about a grind side project so when both bands folded it made perfect sense to start Zealot Cult. Initially we were gonna go the grind route but all our influences are early death metal so the music came out the way it did. Music is natural and shouldn't be anything contrived or forced because otherwise it won't flow. The lads have a huge impact on the sound of the band. Without any one of them it just wouldn't be Zealot Cult.
Jay brings in a lot of riffs, writes all the lyrics and is a very tight rhythm player whereas Conor has a hand in the arrangements of songs and doesn't play bass like just another rhythm guitarist. His bass playing locks in with the drums nicely and complements all the fills and rolls adding the heavyness to the sound. He also comes up with some crazy basslines that go behind the guitar harmony parts. Two excellent musicians and they have a good ear for piecing sections together. The band just wouldn't be the same without them.
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Vile Regression has been one of the hardest working bands nationally over the past two years, but had a couple of setbacks lately with Keith (guitarist) breaking his arm and then your old drummer leaving the band. Can I take it that things are now back on track?
Danny (vocals): Things are very much back on track for Vile Regression. We've been practising non-stop with our new drummer trying to get him up to scratch for our comeback gig and making some adjustments on our new material, which we are very excited about playing.We have booked recording time in early December to record our up coming release which we can reveal will be called The Pattern Evolves. We are also delighted to reveal it will be released on a label. October onwards will see us gigging all over the country including dates in Cork,Limerick,Dublin and Galway. People can check up on the dates on our myspace.We've all invested in new gear aswell so there's a much more professional sound to us these days.
The band doesn't fit squarely into any of the niche genres that generally tend to receive most support from the underground establishment in Dublin. Has this affected how you've gone about things? Or is it a non-issue?
Well, we are all very open minded individuals so we try to foster an openess when it comes to arranging new songs. The fact that we don't fit squarely into any genre can only be a good thing for us. We think it is a great idea that there is a classification system for metal but sometimes people get too caught up in it and lose focus on enjoying the music. It's not like we made a conscious effort to make sure we could never be categorised into a genre. It's just a consequence of our open-minded musical nature. Sometimes we go off on tangents with an idea that can produce some interesting results,other times the song writing can be very straight forward. Thankfully there's only a minority of narrow minded fools in the metal community in Ireland and we've received amazing support from promoters such as Bad Reputation as well as many of our peers.
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Kris, it's been a busy year for Xenocide; gigging all over, supporting Suffocation, and recording at Trackmix studio. A physical release would top it all off nicely, any plans for a demo/EP/album?
Kris (guitar): Yes indeed, we are currently writing for our debut album, but it's moving pretty slowly due to the work and college commitments of some band members. We originally had it planned to be released before Christmas but it looks like we won't hit the studio until the new year. But rest assured we won't stop, next year is looking to be even better than this one; debut album, couple of tours with some international bands, and a few gigs abroad.
The band built its reputation as a ferocious live act under the Criminal Jammage moniker. What prompted the name change?
The name Criminal Jammage was always meant as a joke, but after a gig or two it kinda stuck. So a couple of years after the band was first put together, we were looking to take it to the next level and we decided on a name change. With the original name we got gigs and traveled around Ireland a bit, it was fun and we had a laugh. But now that we're called Xenocide, everything has been kicked up a notch. As soon as we changed the name we got offered the Suffocation and Trigger The Bloodshed support slots, which kinda says it all really!


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It is our hope that the prayer concert will be an urgent appeal to God in our nation's time of crisis, and will be a time for the Lord to touch the hearts of those present and to raise up leaders who God will use to restore our land to unity and peace.
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There is power in prayer. So across the nation let us join together in prayer: You, your family, your youth group, your church, your city and your nation all kneeling to pray at 9:00 A.M. or 9:00 P.M. "You are forgiving and good, O Lord, abounding in love to all who call to you. Hear my prayer, O Lord: listen to my cry for mercy. In the day of my trouble I will call to you, for you will answer me...All the nations you have made will come and worship before you, O Lord; they will bring glory to your name. For you are great and do marvelous deeds; You alone are God." Psalm 86:5-7, 9-10
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In the wake of CFC's recent, unsuccessful, attempt to secure the support required to initiate a transfer of the freehold of Stamford Bridge from the CPO, for me, the recent news that the club were re-examining the merits of the Battersea Power Station site as a suitable venue for a new stadium curiously served to pour oil on waters that had become troubled by the controversy associated with the club's unscrupulous approach to the whole buy-back process.
I recall back in 2003, when Mr Abramovich arrived in SW6, Battersea, along with Earls Court, was soon being touted as a possible site for a new stadium. In 2006, Peter Kenyon boldly outlined CFC's plans to become the Number 1 club in the world by 2014 – at the same time the BPS site was dismissed as being "too small". Five years on, with Kenyon long gone, the grand plan for world domination is somewhat behind schedule although Mr Kenyon's unpopular apprentice Ronald Gourlay, now tasked with running "the business" and developing "the brand" would claim otherwise. As for Battersea Power Station, with a firm of developers and architects now looking at the feasibility of moving to the iconic site – Blues fans have once more been ruminating over what the future might hold – a welcome distraction from debates about the whys and wherefores of the football team's abject run of form in recent weeks.Read More...
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The intriguing and thus-far successful appointment of Andre Villas Boas initially deflected attention away from discussions about the basic economics involved for most of us mere mortals regularly, or perhaps that should read habitually, attending matches at Stamford Bridge, but that soon changed when the controversial pricing policy for Champions League games was announced by the Club.
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Five more dolphins have washed up on the Gulf Coast in the last four days. MPB's Rhonda Miller reports that researchers continue to investigate the cause of the unusually large number of dolphin deaths.
At the Institute for Marine Mammal Studies in Gulfport, it's common to have reports of two or three dead dolphins in a month. But 57 dolphins have washed up on Mississippi and Alabama beaches since the beginning of 2011.
Director of the institute Moby Solangi says researchers are naturally looking at the possible impact of the April 2010 Gulf Oil spill.
"Well, it's certainly a factor," Solangi said. "These animals were conceived in March, April and May 2010. The gestation period is 12 months, so they would be delivering in March, April and May of this year."
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Location is another important clue.
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The Institute for Marine Mammal Studies is working with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to determine the cause of the deaths. Researchers are looking at factors including other environmental issues or infectious disease.
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A Tricky Holiday: Should Christians Ignore or Embrace Halloween?
- Wednesday, October 12, 2011
Ghosts, goblins and witches, oh, my! It's that time of the year when the world—or at least the United States—seems to embrace the dark side of Halloween revelry. Nearly every retailer has some sort of Halloween display, many of which features skeletons, ghouls and other scary stuff—a testament to Americans' love of all things spooky. This year, seven in 10 Americans will celebrate Halloween, spending some $6.9 billion on the holiday, according to the National Retail Federation. That's the highest amount in a decade.
For Christians, Halloween is fraught with potential pitfalls and boogeymen, both real and imagined. Some feel strongly that Christians and Halloween should not mix at all, while others believe Christians can participate in the holiday with a clear conscience.
"Some Christians believe Halloween is firmly rooted in 'the worthless deeds of evil and darkness' as described in Ephesians 5:11," says Mary Fairchild, who hosts the Christianity site at About.com. "The Bible says to 'take no part' in these things."
But other Christians think Halloween can be a way to celebrate family, neighborliness and, yes, Christ. "Some believers look around and see nothing in the Americanized version of Halloween that reflects their values," says Kim Weir, author of Redeeming Halloween. "I was one of those until I sat down and started looking into the holiday's origins and realized that Halloween has an incredible faith heritage."
Halloween's Christian Roots
Today's over-emphasis on the occult and death hide the fact that Halloween has a rich history in the church. While the holiday began as a pagan celebration to drive out evil spirits, the early church actually started what we call Halloween.
The name refers to All Hallows Eve, which is the evening before the All Saints Day of remembering early Christian martyrs. During the 8th century, Pope Gregory III moved All Saints Day from the spring to November 1 to coincide with the pagan festival of Samhain in an effort to sanitize the revelry, which often degenerated into drunkenness and mischievousness.
We should remember that "All Hallows Eve, the feast commemorating the martyrdom of the saints, had already been celebrated by Christians for many centuries prior to this time," says Fairchild. "A later pope, Pope Gregory IV broadened the feast to include the entire church. Inevitably, some of the pagan practices associated with the season persisted and have been mixed into modern celebrations of Halloween."
Halloween came to America from immigrants of the British Isles during the latter part of the 19th century. While originally, the immigrants might have believed in the superstitions associated with the holiday, American youth found the playful qualities of Halloween very attractive.
"Hollywood has added to the 'fun' with a wide assortment of fictional characters—demons, monsters, vampire, werewolves, mummies and psychopaths," says Travis Allen, director of Internet ministry at Grace to You and author of "Christianity and Halloween" posted on www.gty.org. "That certainly isn't improving the American mind, but it sure is making someone a lot of money."
Rehabilitating Halloween
For children, the allure of the holiday has been the trick or treating—the dressing up in costumes and receiving of candy. However, there are ways to help your children re-orient their thinking to be more Christ-centered in the midst of Halloween.
"Halloween is an expression of our faith life," says Wier. "It was put on the church calendar in 610 as a celebration of all those men and women who gave their lives for their faith. We think that's worth celebrating. We want our children to know about their Christian heritage."
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January 11, 2010
The 50 Most Important Religion Films of All Time
Film Snobbery has compiled what it believes is the ultimate list
The Ten Commandments and The Passion of the Christ are no-brainers for anybody compiling a list of The 50 Most Important Religion Films of All Time, as Film Snobbery recently did on its website. Both are appropriate in their top 10.
But Fiddler on the Roof, Life of Brian, and The Blues Brothers are also near the top of their list. Seriously. Check it out. And let us know in the comment below what you think of the list.
Wonder how they define "important"? Apparently "makes a serious, coherent statement about religion" is not a criterion in their definition. Some of these films are about religion in the same way that a fire engine is like the Soviet Union: They're both red, and both rushin'. Most glaring omission, especially for a site that claims to promote indie films: "To End All Wars." Another inexplicabale omission: "A Man For All Seasons."
I wonder why "Fireproof" was left of the list (as well as "The Mission" as some of the comments mentioned). I understand that "Fireproof" was the highest box-office earner for independent "indie" films in 2008 with over $35 million in total earnings. How did Film Snobbery's "voice for indie films" miss that?
Also, the "Jesus" film that has been seen by over 2 billion people around the world through Campus Crusade for Christ and many other missiona agencies. And the older "Thief in the Night" movies from Gospel Films made a big impact in the 1970s and 1980s. And the "Jesus of Nazereth" movie with Robert Powell, Laurence Olivier, etc. is a standard for many images of the life of Christ: Olivia Hussey as the young virgen Mary, Powell as Jesus, Anne Bancroft as Mary Magdalene, Anthony Quinn as Caiphas, etc.
How did they miss that as one of the top 50?
"Important" doesn't mean "good," either morally or aesthetically. "Monsieur Vincent," a film rarely seen in the US, is supposed to be morally good and well-made.
Three of my all-time favorite religious movies aren't on the list:
- The Mission
- Shadowlands
- Brother Sun, Sister Moon
- Dead Man Walking
- Entertaining Angels (The Dorothy Day Story)
I'd even say 'Fight Club' is more important as far as religion goes than most of the movies on that list. Fight Club laid bare the nihilism at the heart of my generation, the bankruptcy of capitalism, and the idea that us white guys with divorced parents have to come to grips with whether or not God actually likes us.
For my soul, give me Magnolia or Punch Drunk Love over a lot of those 'religious' films.


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Good Questions: What Does "Loft" Mean?
Hello AT,
What makes a space a "loft"? Is it high ceilings? Abundance of windows? That the space is one big volume?
Lately, I've seen the word "loft" thrown around to decribe just about anything - even a 500 sq ft studio.
To me, a loft is something like Demi Moore's loft in "Ghost".
Thanks, Alvin
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"Loft" is a term used by real estate agents to trick you into thinking that the apartment is bigger than it really is. As in, "spacious 400 sqare foot loft" = dinky studio.
Your definition of "loft" is the correct one IMHO.
I lived in a 400 sq ft "loft" in Williamsburg - a divided loft, since my friend had the back 400 and I had the front 400. We shared the bathroom, and hung a washer dryer in the hallway.
It was a very narrow building without rooms...I guess you could have called each floor a studio, but it was an industrial area, so . . .
there were no realtors involved.
o how times have changed!
"Loft" has shifted meaning over the years. It used to mean one big unfinished or semi-finished volume, converted from former industrial space.
Then in the 1990s, developers started building "lofts." Whether it's an industrial rehab or new construction, what you get with a newish "loft" depends on where you are, but it's loosely a way of saying: "This condo is very, very hip."
Here in San Francisco, a new loft is a tall, narrow shoebox with a mezzanine for the bed. When we looked at lofts in Minneapolis, beds were on the same floor with the rest of the unit, but usually only the front room had windows. In other places, I've seen "lofts" that were basically conventional condos with high ceilings and some industrial details. So it's more a marketing ploy than a distinct design.
Oh -- and here in SF, being a "loft" allows a unit to evade certain earthquake codes.
(Yeah, yeah, I wrote a not-very-good academic paper on this topic a couple years back. Bleh.)
As per dictionary:
- A large, usually unpartitioned floor over a factory, warehouse, or other commercial or industrial space.
- Such a floor converted into an apartment or artist's studio.
- An open space
My personal understanding is that loft is simply a (possibly large but not always) open concept (no internal, dividing walls) space converted into living/working studio.
Which is not to be confused with a mini-loft. ; )
Jim, I had to google. I thought they must be breeding them down, but I found something different altogether.
Guido, actually when I was looking around for a new apt. there were some places actually listed as mini-lofts. Essentially a open layout/studio apt. with industrial type ceiling or such lack of finish.
Here in Boston, they are starting to call studios 'lofts' as well. Another fun one is the 'loft like floorplan' which basically means someone knocked out everything but the loadbearing walls from a condo.
I agree with Tyson, it should be a former industrial space, with no real walls, usally live/work.
Of course I can say this because I do live in a true live/work loft in a former candy factory (yes, on hot days in the summer you can still smell candy) and while the lifestyle isn't for everyone, sometimes it's not even for me, there is NOTHING like having a blank space and being able to do whatever you want with it.
I guess there is no such thing as a stupid question. The term "loft" was coined to refer to apartment's in converted commercial/ industrial buildings. The term was used to describe the lofted or high ceilings that one would generally find in such apartments. Lofts will vary; some will have lots of windows, some will be huge open spaces, but the one criteria they should all have is lofted/ high ceilings.
Yes! There are studio-lofts. A studio can also be lofts, as long as the ceilings are lofted.
I think others have explained this pretty well, but originally, they were raw industrial spaces with floors that rented cheap, which drew artists, which made people think "if artists like them, they must be good." Enter developers. In places with industry, they took the industrial frames of the buildings, created apartments, which still retained their industrial feel. These were still comfortably called lofts. Now, people call almost anything lofts because it's "hip." It's especially humorous here in DC where there were no warehouses or factories and hence, no real loft space. They put in stainless steel appliances and a pendant light fixture, maybe expose a pipe and they think it's a loft. It's infuriating (only someone like me would get incensed over something like this!). just wait until "small shithole studios" come back in vogue--they'll be calling lofts and loft-like places that. :)
In Chicago, you will often find the term "soft loft" in real estate ad's. Basically, this means the place is in a converted industrial space with an open layout, but still has conventional rooms (bedrooms, halls, etc...)which are separate from the main living space (usually by partial height walls).
My place is a soft loft in what was once warehouse space for Woolworths. It retains the original 12' high concrete ceilings and brick walls, with windows only on one wall, but they put up 8' high walls to create a bedroom (no windows), and the bathroom is conventional. Oh, and it's only 495 square feet.
If the space were to have conventional 8' high ceilings, it would feel quite claustrophobic, but the high ceilings essentially give an additional 50% of volume to the space, giving you the feeling of being in a much bigger space.
To me a loft has to have:
1. High ceilings (at least 10')
2. An open floorplan
3. An industrial character for the raw space
4. A sense of spaciousness. I have a very hard time viewing sub 1000 sqft spaces as lofts. It's very difficult to get the spacious and faintly cavernous feeling that true lofts have in small spaces.
Hello, from Nashville. In our ever increasing need to be cosmopolitan we are converting every old mill and barn to lofts. They are usually overpriced and overdesigned. Loft seams like a marketing term.
What "Loft" is Not.
The term "loft" is relative, but I do have a gripe about what Realtors are calling "lofts" here in Chicago. Here's what I mean.
- If you expose a small section of ductwork (say 10", yes inches), this does not make the space a loft.
- If you install Pergo floors and call them "natural" hardwood flooring, this does not make the space a loft.
- If you hang a post of 'Tournee du Chat Noir' by Théophile Alexandre Steinlen in your dining room, this does not make the space a loft.
That's my two cents.
Sorry if I sound like a loft-snob, but come on now? Realtors will call anything a loft if it helps it sell.
A true loft starts at 1500 square feet.
at minium a space needs at least 500Sq ft; 11 ft ceilings, and be situated in an old industrial or office building to be considered a loft. Also lots of open space.
I've rented houses that had 25ft ceilings that were great but were not lofts.
My interpretation of "loft" is a large open floor plan with very high ceilings, usually with one wall of large scaled windows (as in factory-converted spaces), but with the bedroom being raised up and open to the space below and often with a workspace/kitchen beneath it.
LOL, AdonisSJ -- I have one more to add to your list of what a loft is NOT:
-- an apartment on the top floor of a house, with slanty ceilings, is not a loft!
This misconception is especially popular with landlords posting to Boston CL for some reason...
It's sad, but anything can be called a loft in the world of real estate, shameful how a converted historical mill, now loft, isn't the only 'loft' out there anymore... Selling a lifestyle, I guess.
Lofts are even in the burbs, now! I've been following articles on suburban loft home developments, created for urban-minded peeps that crave an open concept floor plan, exposed brick and metal sheathing but must be within driving distance of the local Home Depot and Wendy's all night drive-thru.
Google 'suburban lofts' or 'iron works lofts' and you should be able to find a whole new definition of loft living.
This post is for Joey - are you in Everett over at the Charleston Chew building? I think I saw your pad featured last year on boston.com after viewing your slide show... Was that you?
Also, I have clients in your building, do you know the Mostajos?
Maybe it's the fact that I'm from the midwest, but in trying to explain what a "loft" is, I immediately think "hay loft." Exposed beams, work space (barn) that could be a cozy living space (for some discerning cats), etc.
Here in Denver, if you have,say, exposed duct work... they call it a loft.
Ugh. This city is so fake it is sickening sometimes.
Hey Holly,
Yep, dat's me! Please please PLEASE don't judge me or my place on those pictures. ANYONE will tell you both of us are far better looking in person. Or you could see for yourself if you come visit Carlos & Sandy :)
I think the original lofts were former factories and commercial spaces converted to living areas.
I wish I lived in a building called the Charleston Chew building!
adonissj, that commentary on lofts was hilarious...esp. the "chat" comment. It's the same here in DC.
Whats funny is that on hot days you can still smell candy. My building was shipping/receiving so I still have some of the markings of the loading dock door hardware up on my ceiling. Pretty cool stuff.
Chicago has also been building new highrise buildings in which they are calling the units "Loft Apartments" They are often duplexed units, with double height ceilings, and exposed ductwork.
I am sorry, the words "New", "Highrise" and "Loft" do not belong in the same sentence.
well i want to convert this old 12 story full brick storage warehouse crammed full with windows in to lofts. i like to keep it real and use that old stuff
Absolute prerequisite for a bona-fide loft-
Must have originally been built as an industrial space, then converted for residential use, period.
Furthermore, to respectably claim to be a loft, one must have-
1000 sq. ft. +
minimum 12 ft. ceilings (preferably higher)
retain the industrial window hardware (preferably many windows)
Exposed brick or in some cases cinderblock walls
"Bonus Points" for other exposed infrastructure may include-
Plumbing lines
Gas lines
Electrical conduit
HVAC ductwork
Pneumatic mail system tubes
Other bragging rights may include:
A formerly exterior wall from an adjacent building that has been walled in, and is now part of the interior which displays a portion of some turn-of-the-century painted billboard for a now obsolete product (ie.: 4 foot tall letters advertising "Fine Coach Builders" with a logo of a man wearing a top-hat where half the ad is on your floor and the other half continues on the wall of your downstairs neighbor's apartment).
True loft living panache:
Industrial freight elevator that opens directly into your living space, big enough to drive your car into so you can bring it upstairs and park it in your apartment.
I grew up in regular homes in the suburbs, so for me a loft is any room you need to get to via a ladder. Doesn't matter what the "history" of the room is, it's gotta have a ladder or other complicated entry.
If you try to build a loft, are you really building an industial bilding to put the loft into? Can you really call it a single family dwelling to get the building permit?
I learned last year that a "loft" space is defined (especially by our English-speaking neighbors across the Atlantic) as the space directly under the roof of a building. I had seemed to recall this particular definition and "googled" the word, to confirm. I was advertising a bedroom in my house which fell under that description and wanted to be sure and represent it in the most interesting and accurate way that it deserved.


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Im a new user looking for some advice! (Please move this message to another forum if it's incorrectly placed!)
Basically I work for a supermarket and have worked in annoying retail for 80% of my 'career'. I was a specialist electrician for a few months though!
I want to become an ICT Support Technician, specifically in a school because I enjoy the environment and the fact that kids seem more grateful if you solve a problem for them. Not only that, I think the job is more secure as there will always be a need for ICT in Schools.
Ive been volunteering at a high school since July to try pick up some experience and learn the ropes of IT and expand on my knowledge.
At first the school were suggesting I perhaps trained and did an NVQ however only wanted me to do a level 3 but that would cost them money so they have changed their mind.
I would be willing to fork out the money for the training (probably get a learning loan) but I'm a little apprehensive as the school have toned down how keen they are to teach me and have said they would do things such as 'make me more official by sending me an official letter of employment (for £0 wage!) which has never happened. There's also the problem with the fact they won't pay me anything nor contribute at all and I'm thinking perhaps another school might actually do this so maybe forking out £3.5K is quite a bit to have no guaranteed job at the end of it!
So..What does everyone think I should do? I love the job, I actually enjoy going in to work when I go to the school but something tells me this might not be the right school for me, just because they are so tight with money!
What is the best way to become an IT Techy?!
Hope someone can help!
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My advice, if you are doing this for a school....DONT, unless you get everything in writing before hand, and signed off, you will rarely get whats promised (I frequent story with all techs I know personally and many on here).
Comptia do good courses which offer a solid foundation, perhaps go to a local college or university, ask to do a deal with them, they train you and give you access to courses for free, in return, you work for them at either a heavily discounted rate or free. You'd be surprised the amount of places that are willing to do this as it gives them the temporary help many are after, and you both benefit.
Good luck.
Job hunt for an ICT trainee or apprentice role, do not go spending ££££ on courses it's best in my opinion to get experience and then go on a course as that way it will make sense.
Don't put your eggs in all one basket, get out looking and trying in the hope you get paid work
Schools have a proven track record of exploiting their IT staff. underpaying them, and generally being unappreciative of all the hard work that goes on behind the scenes. Saying that, they're a great place to forge a career, you get to work with big kids and little kids and support staff, and the hours can be very convenient. IT in UK education is quite an exciting place to be at the moment - I'm loving the growth in the use of tablets like iPADs.
Despite the negative (but sadly true) statements regarding IT in schools, they can be a decent starting ground for someone wanting a career in IT. Expectation is high but you will get hands on experience and will certainly get to play with things normally considered above scope for junior technicians. There is a lack of appreciation but the fact is your CV will soon be bulging with various aspects of IT.
Only thing I can think of, is that the level of qualifications and experience to work as even a Junior IT tech in a school can be pretty high.
I wouldn't discount getting qualifications too much though. It shows that you have the motivation and application to want to succeed in your field.
Whilst some will disagree with me here as being unethical. I'd 'braindump' maybe the Windows 7 or 8 Microsoft Exam simply to get something on your CV that will look good. Providing you are familiar with both of these operating systems and know the basics of how to configure and troubleshoot them, then you will be fine. Remember, sometimes you need to do what it takes to get your foot in the door.
Feel free to PM me if you need any advice on the above.
This course is modular so you can pay a bit at a time, distance learning with support. Some day I shall get round to doing it myself, but a techie in this area has found it useful:
BTEC Award in Computer Engineering Level 2 - Home
But as others have said, schools can be big on promises and small on actual action. They expect you to know everything about anything that has a switch to turn it on, and don't worry too much about how you become such an expert as long as it doesn't cost them anything. Not all schools, of course, but a lot.
Wow thanks for all the quick response!
I think in all honesty by the look of it, spending 3.5 Grand on an NVQ level 3 might be a bit steep and perhaps the experience counts for a bit more? I could try get some lower level and cheaper qualifications and bulk out my CV with those? I've already sent off some more letters just this week to other schools just because I was having second thoughts about the way things were at my current school! None of the technicians are professionally qualified at all which shocks me because they are very talented and under valued!
I do get the impression that technicians are viewed as being very multi-skilled and need to know how to play with every gadget, which is fine with me but also a bit under appreciated. I do have a City and Guilds 2330 which helps me a bit with networking and techie stuff slightly.
Feeling that Im nearly too old now (27) to start to get in to this career line but I just know its the one for me!
You could always do a self study course for the A+ and N+ im 30 next year ok im a NM and have my mcsa and other new certs but I love my passion for computers and networks and I my self is thinking of doing a reed course which has the N+ and cisco but im doing it because I feel I have a gap and if you have the basic skills and know your way around a laptop and pc and know the hardware and know basic of networking then in someways you already are an ict technician its just how you bring your self across and be confident in your ability and to show them you have the skills
IT Helpdesk Technician - Central London
I think that instead of spending 3.5K on a course, spend £20 on one of the Microsoft study guides (Amazon), learn what's in it and do a Microsoft exam for £80-£90. A heck of a lot cheaper and is both a recognized qualification and depending on which you do (standard Windows 7 or 8 install exam) is fairly easy if you're already familiar with the product.
Personally, I started out on an apprenticeship scheme in a school. Low salary yes but I was training on the job and got an NVQ and City & Guilds at the end of it. After that I've done plenty of self study (MS and Apple) and attended a course for the Cisco stuff. But a school is an awesome place to work in order to get a broad knowledge of things
What part of the country are you in, if you're up t'north (around West Yorkshire) then we'll be advertising a technician vacancy in a couple of weeks.
This is just what my son is looking for - anyone got any vacancies down this way?
You have my sympathy; I got a lucky break but trust me when I say getting your foot in the door is the hard part. If you have the right attitude the education sector is a fantastic place to make a living.
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