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The purchase was not against the association's rules, but the fact that more than half of the memberships were for people who lived outside Philadelphia, and many out-of-state, raised serious questions about how much influence on the association's board was essentially for sale.
After the controversy, the CHCA formed a committee that worked rigorously to reform the election process to be sure such questions never came up again. The rules that committee created are in effect and seem to be working very well.
One question raised at the time that has not gone away is that of the influence wielded by members of the association who live outside of Chestnut Hill. That question was even the subject of a "debate" among association board members via e-mail. That discussion was sparked by a proposed change to the CHCA bylaws to limit membership to Chestnut Hill.
I placed debate in quotes because only one individual in the e-mail exchange endorsed limiting membership to Hill residents. In other words, if your ZIP code is not 19118, you can't be a member or vote in CHCA elections. All others who responded — members of the CHCA board — were not for the limitation.
There is common sense to limiting CHCA membership, or at least voting privileges to Hill residents. The CHCA is not a governing body. It has no regulatory authority, but it does have a great deal of influence in Chestnut Hill matters. One of those matters is zoning.
It's tough to argue that non-Chestnut Hill residents should have a say in how a Hill resident uses (or doesn't use) his property. Hill residents should also be able to prevail on any issues affecting real estate in their neighborhood. They own houses and property here. They are the ones who are invested in the ZIP code.
Still, it seems many in Chestnut Hill favor more porous borders. That may be because, unlike an insular village, Chestnut Hill serves a larger community beyond the residents who live here, blurring the lines that define most towns.
Many of the Hill's business leaders and other well-heeled benefactors of Chestnut Hill institutions live outside the ZIP code. Many of the people who work in Hill shops live outside of Chestnut Hill just as many of the children who attend school at Chestnut Hill's public, private and parochial schools live outside of Chestnut Hill. [I have to point out here that I, too, am a carpetbagger and have not lived in Chestnut Hill for more than five years now.]
So what is a "Hiller"? It's definitely someone who lives here. But there must be a place for those who don't. Those who don't live here can't claim to have the same investment as a home or business owner, but they may be invested in other ways — through schools, churches and other institutions.
It might be hard to see what those contributions and investments are, but we probably don't want to see them go away.
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A bookman's Florida holiday, from A (for A-Rod) to Z (for Zippy the Pinhead)
The straight line I wished to travel was from Philadelphia to Tampa, Fla., and once thence, to hire a car. I chose Florida because I love sunshine and palm trees and birdwatching and one other, very important thing, which I shall tell you in another minute. The overriding motive for this trip is that I think I deserve a reward for finishing my novel.
No, I haven't finished yet. But this "final" rewrite has been coming along. As I promised in this column back in October, after numerous readers encouraged me to keep trying, I began a totally fresh rewrite in October and have worked every day since. I thought I'd finish by New Year's Eve. I couldn't. I am now at 200 pages, however, plan to get to 300, and at my current rate of averaging 3-4 pages per day, should finish near the end of February. How should I celebrate?
Yes, why not pluck from the "Bucket List," as it's come to be called. All my life I have wanted to go to a Spring Training baseball game. Our son finished college last May. We are no longer bound to a scholastic calendar. Let's go.
And while we're at it, let's go see the Phils play the Yankees. Clearwater's stadium seats only 7,000. Supposedly every seat is a good one. The atmosphere is relaxed and family-friendly, and the players are more open and interact with the crowds. It sounds fantastic.
Part one
So, that's where the trip starts: with a call to the Phillies box office. Booked three seats right behind the third base dugout. (Had to buy a package of three games, so I'll sell or give away the other two games – maybe.)
How to get there? We don't like to fly. Not for any good reason other than feeling phobic. Driving feels onerous and time-consuming, so, let's fulfill another fantasy: the sleeper train on Amtrak. That was the second phone call. All settled. A double for my wife and me, a "roomette" for our son.
Now we need to rent a car to get from Tampa to Clearwater and from there down the Gulf Coast to visit Sarasota, St.Petersburg, Sanibel Island, the Everglades, and perhaps the Keys. Then back to Tampa for the return train ride.
But, which car rental agency? Ideally, we'd like to step off the train, walk across the station to the booth maintained by the rental company and take off from there. The Internet, however, started giving me the run-around, offering me all sorts of things I didn't want and almost nothing I did. When in doubt, shift gears to Simple: I Googled: "Services available Union Station Tampa Florida."
The answer, in short, is that there basically aren't any services. If I want a car, I must call an agency when I arrive and they'll come pick me up. But I did get referred to a Wikipedia entry, where I found a nice photo. How interesting: in 1974 Union Station Building was added to the U.S. National Register of Historic Places.
And not only that, last May 2, as part of National Train Day festivities, a poem, " The Epic of Union Station," was given a dramatic reading by its author, the City of Tampa's Official Poet Laureate, James E. Tokley, Sr. Wow, the city of Tampa has an Official Poet Laureate!
I wondered if I could meet him. So I Googled: "James E. Tokley, Sr. Tampa, Florida."
As poets must, in this non-Chaucerian age, he maintains a Web site: "http://www.jamestokley.com/index.php"
Mr. Tokley's webpage contains his biography, which I read. Aha, the plot thickens: this is a trip that was meant to be. The Poet Laureate of Tampa, Fla., is a Philly guy. Well, at least partially. He has a master's in education from Temple University.
I read his biography, his list of achievements, his poems, and, finally, his "Tokleyisms," pithy sayings of his he offers as quotes. The one that set me off on my next adventure was: "If I could be anything in the world, I wish I could be a lector in a Tampa cigar factory."
Part two: What is a lector?
In the early days of American industrial labor, immigrant factory workers, many of them unable to read, hired a lector, or "reader," to sit on a platform and read to them. In the morning the lector read newspapers aloud. In the afternoon, the lector read novels, often-spicy tales by writers such as Anatole France, or Emile Zola. Even "Anna Karenina" was read aloud.
Whoops, time to follow a link: In 2003 the Pulitzer Prize for drama was won by Nilo Cruz for his play, "Anna of the Tropics." In the play, a young woman leaf roller in a Tampa cigar factory finds her life curiously running in parallel to the story of "Anna Karenina," which is being read by a new, handsome, mysterious lector in her factory. Sounds good, or at least necessary to my education in this regard, so I link to the Free Library, order it, and two days later it arrived. I'll pick it up tomorrow. Then I went back to the "lector" link.
Part 3: Life post-lector
It gets better. I read an entry about how the lector practice ended when the factory owners (who feared the radical politics and labor opinions of the readers) finally managed to ban them.
One lector, however, Victoriano Manteiga, refused to be silenced. He started a newspaper, "La Gaceta," in 1922, which continues today. It is the nation's only trilingual newspaper (it has an Italian section), and it is currently owned and edited by his grandson, Patrick Manteiga. The Manteiga family are widely known and respected in Tampa, especially in the Cuban section known as Ybor City. A statue of Patrick's father, Roland Manteiga, the previous editor of the "La Gaceta" stands outside the newspaper office in Ybor City.
Part 4: Sit-by-me
All this and the fun was just starting. In looking for lector visuals, I accidentally linked to the entirely fascinating, incredible world of "sit-by-me statues" offered by a Web site called Waymark.com. They advertise themselves as "a scavenger hunt for the most interesting locations in the world." I was hooked for the next few hours (and could be for days on end if I succumbed to my aroused desire to stay on there forever).
I restricted myself, as a books-and-reading columnist should, to their list/links of statues of readers, books, book holders, writers, children reading, you name it, throughout the world. Endless vacation photo-op goals could be developed from this site, for example: "oversized objects," "elevated objects," "places mentioned in the 'Zippy the Pinhead' comics," musicians, philosophers. The list exhausted me, but I'm really looking forward to the next time I have time to waste.
So there you have it, in a way, from "A" (for A-Rod of the Yankees) to "Z" (for "Zippy the Pinhead" tourist sites). I thought it might be fun to describe how a guy who fancies books, reading, and authors gets carried away sometimes by the treasure hunt that is the Internet. I still haven't managed to rent a car to get from Tampa to Clearwater for the Phillies game.
If I Were Queen...
Maybe not about being Queen precisely, but about being in charge, making the big decisions and creating your own little kingdom as you see fit. Perhaps your home is your castle, where you rule over the daily minutiae, but what if you could wave your royal scepter and change anything you wanted in your own town.
What would you change? Would you move off your block? Why? What makes your particular locality better or worse than another? Is it possible to change it for the better?
We are using our imagination here, no guilt, and no worry about stepping on others toes, just pure childhood fancy where anything is possible.
First, let's think about Main Street. In my own SimCity, I'm thinking of a Katz's Deli-type place, mile-high pastrami sandwiches, aged provolone hanging above the counter, pickles in a barrel, real NY bagels. I have to stop with that visualization since I'm getting hungry.
Next I stroll by a perfect, old-fashioned hardware store, looks just like Kilian's. Next I'd plop Big Blue Marble Bookstore beside an artsy, independent theater, a children's shoe store, an organic/natural food store, a Gap-type store and a tearoom. And that's just the block near my house.
Next, I'd turn the Magarity Ford site into a community garden, run bike lanes up and down Germantown Ave, place recycling containers on every block, have outdoor movies and ice skating in Pastorius Park, block parties throughout the year, rehab the Water Tower into a beautiful community center, add more benches to Germantown Avenue, impose vacancy taxes on unrented store fronts, stop signs on every single block of residential streets to slow traffic and ice-cream available on every corner. This is my dream, after all.
The reality is that many of the attributes of my perfect, imaginary town are already found here in Chestnut Hill. Things aren't perfect, but they aren't that far off either. Last March, I attended an Urban Sustainability Forum, titled "Growing Sustainable Philly Neighborhoods," along with Amy Edelman, of the Night Kitchen, at the Academy of Natural Sciences.
We listened as presenters described how they effected change in their mostly very poor, dilapidated, often crime-ridden neighborhoods. Many of their goals included planting trees, creating community gardens and children's parks, improving mass transit, gaining access to fresh, wholesome food and community building.
As we took notes, Amy turned to me, pointing to a checklist, and said, "We have all of this already – how lucky are we?"
No doubt about it, we are fortunate, but there is work to do, and all of our visions are needed to make good things happen. For upcoming Urban Sustainability Forums check out this Web site, www.ansp.org/environmental/.
Meeting the public: Hill's best-known photo correspondent reports on Rep. Cherelle Parker's 9th Ward town meeting.
In the past two weeks, I had exhausted my civic energies e-mailing and telephoning Barnes & Noble to interest the bookstore chain in taking over the now-vacant Borders property. A town meeting might be entertaining but just as likely, dispiriting.
Then my kids kicked me out of the house. I was off to Jenks.
To my surprise and relief, a festive atmosphere greeted me in the school gym where representatives of many government agencies, utilities, social service organizations and a career school staffed tables arranged in a "U" around folding seats in the center.
As Parker worked the room, I browsed the tables and chatted with the staffers, taking in many tidbits of information and collecting the numerous freebies: literature, pens, notepads and a compact fluorescent light bulb from the PECO rep. (The gentleman did not know whether PECO would buy back electricity from me if I ever actually install solar panels on our roof – it would be sweet to reverse-meter PECO during the sunny summer months.)
It appeared that the number of hired hands and politicos outnumbered plain citizens by about 50 to 30. I wondered why there were not more. I had been alerted to the meeting by e-mail, by robo-call and by regular mail, too. Perhaps Parker should have advertised refreshments – after a long day people like to be refreshed.
Among the luminaries were Philadelphia Fire Commissioner Lloyd Ayers, who spoke about successful fire prevention in the city and the importance of installing carbon monoxide detectors. Parker also acknowledged the presence of Derek Green, a city council aide and recent candidate himself for council, and Alex Talmadge, a former candidate for District Attorney who was there to represent one of the participating organizations.
Parker also took a good-natured but obligatory swipe at the Board of Revision of Taxes, which had its own table.
My patriotism was stirred by the presence and overt dedication of the public servants in the room. They made short presentations and stressed their desire to assist us in any number of ways should, for example, we find our home being foreclosed upon, in need of researching the record of a contractor, or if we have become the victim of a crime.
The Philadelphia School District is even offering courses through a new "Parents University." There are a multitude of services for the elderly or disabled and, unless we die young, not one of us will avoid entering one if not both of these categories.
Parker, who acted as mistress of ceremonies, is an animated speaker. She shared some of her personal history. She was the "child of a child" – her mother gave birth to her at age 16. Now, here she was, after serving as a longtime aide to Councilwoman Marian Tasco, one of only three African-American women in the 203-seat state House of Representatives.
Soon she will undertake a six-week tour of South America as an Eisenhower fellow. In Chile, she will meet President Michele Bachelet, the daughter of a general who had been tortured and died in custody under the regime of former Chilean dictator Augosto Pinochet.
I had made some mental notes of her efforts and positions. She is a supporter of the Second Amendment right to bear arms but believes requiring citizens to register their guns will reduce gun violence. She reported having to fight to have $300 million dollars restored to the state's budget for education. She made a point of how conservative the rest of Pennsylvania is.
An hour and a half into the evening – at which time not one attendee yet had a chance to say a word and Parker was still only inching toward the audience participation part – I raised my hand.
It was time for what was publicized as a meeting to cease being a presentation. I had seated myself front row center because I like to take photographs. Only the representative's high heels kept her view of her constituents from being completely obstructed by my outstretched arm. She yielded.
That Parker had to struggle to preserve funds for education prompted me to launch back into my campaign mode of 2007 when I ran on the Green Party for 8th District City Council.
"I think you should take the state legislature on a bus to go down to Washington, D.C., because it is our federal government that has close to 200,000 troops in Afghanistan and Iraq still looking for weapons of mass destruction, but only 12,000 troops to help out in Haiti where the only thing left standing is the American embassy," I said. "And that's because we could afford to build it to withstand an earthquake.
"Meanwhile, big banks now owned by the citizens of the U.S. are paying out big bonuses to their execs, and here in Philadelphia we still have to fight for every cent we get for public education."
I later reflected that meetings like these always attract mouthy malcontents. There were rumblings at my remarks and I would like to think they indicated assent, but they might just as easily have been a reaction to my party-pooping remarks. My work was done when the woman who Parker called on next pressed the representative on universal health care, referring to initiatives taken in other states.
The meeting soon concluded, and Parker graciously gathered me in for a photograph with her and others in front of a huge dark blue flag that she had just presented to Christina Moore, the Jenks school dean of students. It was the flag of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Oh, what a wonderful world it would be if the wealth in the commonwealth, the nation, and the world, were more common.


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Since its inception in 1812 as part of a Spanish Land Grant to Juan Francisco Lombrano, only three families have cared for the land that comprises the San Pedro Ranch. In the ultimate act of stewardship, the current owners have protected the San Pedro for future generations by donating a conservation easement to TALT.
"We chose a conservation easement because it was the best option for our family and the best option for our land," said one of the landowners. "Our goal has always been to keep the San Pedro operating as a family ranch just as it has been since our grandfather purchased the ranch in 1935. We value the diverse biology, history and culture that characterize this property and want to see it carried forward into the future."
Located in Dimmit County near the Mexican border, the San Pedro sits squarely at the intersection of the South Texas Rolling Plains and the Chihuahuan Desert in an ecological transition zone characterized by biological diversity. The diversity is further enhanced by the presence of water, a rarity in this arid region. The San Pedro Ranch, which is located between the Nueces and Rio Grande rivers, is home to San Pedro Creek, San Ambrosia Creek and San Pedro Spring. The spring is the only live water in the vast expanse between the two rivers, drawing people to it throughout history. It is said that Santa Ana camped at the spring en route to the Alamo.
In a region where many working ranches have become recreational ranches, the San Pedro maintains the traditions of the range. On this South Texas cow-calf operation, much of the work is still done on horseback and Spanish is the first language. Just as the land ownership has passed from generation to generation, so have the land management responsibilities. Currently, this is the third generation of owners and managers to work together.
"We're blessed to have a loyal and devoted team at the San Pedro who shares our family's commitment to improving the natural resources in our care," said another member of the family. "Together, we've learned what works best and what doesn't work at all. They share in our excitement when a management technique works particularly well and in our frustration when nature gets out of balance. We feel a sense of responsibility toward one another and toward the future."
This sense of responsibility combined with a love of the land prompted the family to consider a conservation easement.
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Of course, this decision did not come without careful consideration, consultation and negotiation. Initially, the family was concerned that an easement would be a one-size-fits-all proposition.
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This is only my second batch I'm getting into and I'm tackling a Tripel clone with OG of about 1.093. Have two wyeast Trappist smack packs and am about ready to make the starter. Couple questions...
Should I throw to smack packs in one 2 L starter? Should I do one pack in one 2L starter and pitch the other pack straight from the bag? Should I start each pack separately and then combine at pitch? What would be best to get this monster rolling?
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Sorry...this post was a duplicate post of the original above that was done on my mobile phone. I can't find the option to delete this post.
Try the calculator on mrmalty - http://www.mrmalty.com/calc/calc.html
looks like it is saying that with an og of 1.093 with a stir plate and 2 packs you need 1 liter of starter and with 1 pack you would need 2.36 liters
Would 2 packs in 1 liter be too dense or take too long to start as opposed to 2 packs in 2 liters? My thinking is more wort/sugar available for more yeast and less competition for food source. Does it work like that?
I would do 1 pack in a 2l starter
I tried your numbers on the wyeast calculators and the numbers were a little different.
if you do 2 packs in 2 liters you will end up with ~ 24mil cells/ml
if you do 2 packs in 1 liter you will end up with ~ 18mil cells/ml
wyeast recommends "A general rule of thumb is to pitch one million cells per milliliter per degree plato."
you are at ~ 22 plato so you would want about 22 mil cells/ml
if your using a stir plate you can get to 22 mil cells using 1.5 liters and 2 smack packs. http://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_pitchrate.cfmhttp://www.wyeastlab.com/hb_pitchrates.cfm
I think Mr Malty uses a default of 18mil cells which is why it said 1 liter.
You are probably better off making 2 liters and pitching when its at high krausen. As far as competition they are going to chew through everything in that starter pretty quick
Do you recommend cold crashing? Does it make a difference or should I pitch the entire starter at high krausen?
for a 2l starter put it in the fridge after the yeast is done then decant
So, I think it went well. Had a hard time telling if there was active fermentation/activity vs. particulate as the starter was stirring. Had it stirring for 18 hours and just placed it in the fridge. No krausen though. I wouldn't expect to see krausen with a stir plate would I?
So my next question is...I was planning on brewing about seven hours after placing the starter in the fridge. Is that enough time to flocculate or should I just wait till Saturday morning (24 hours). When is too soon? And is there a major difference between pouring the whole starter vs decanting? I've also heard some recommend a pint of wort to boost activity before pitching......
Just to finish off...
So I did a 1.5L starter with ~4.5oz LME and 2 packets of the Wyeast (3787) high gravity trappist via stir plate for 18h, cold crash in fridge for 24h, decant then warm/stir for 6h with about 50ml of wort prior to pitch. Three hours after pitching there was nothing. Nine hours after pitching there was pretty impressive activity. Sixteen hours after work, krausen was nearly at the airlock and I had to makeshift a blow off tube. >48 hours later and it's still churning something fierce. I have a feeling, all in all, it's been a successful starter with solid results.
Just started another starter for an experimental IIPA. Much thanks for the input!


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People should never hide their sexual orientation from their relatives and friends. This kind of behavior may lead to mental breakdown, general unhappiness and dissatisfaction with life. One should seek acceptance instead of pretending to be someone they are not. No one should keep their feelings secret.
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Apr 12 2012: That is a quandary only if you believe it is necessary. My father was remarried for seven years before I found out. Did it change my relationship with him? Not really, he was not that engaged with us, his family anyhow. Treat this the same way: Introduce when you want, if they can't accept what makes you happy, send the invite and expect to get the invitation rejected. And be grateful if they show. Trying not to disappoint people when they are being intolerant is an exercise in futility. Encouraging your happiness, despite their personal convictions, is a true testimony of their love.
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Back in Vanilla my guild let me DPS with my priest sometimes. I had rank 10 pvp gear with Anathema. On our first Ragnaros kill in MC i was 1st in damage. Shadow priest were imba at that time. Also +15 % shadow damage to our locks was awesome. Second in damage was a lock who did the sucubus sacrifice and resurrect trick to get +40% shadow damage i think.


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Caravan, Campervan and Motorhome Owners
The Central Coast Council welcomes all caravan, campervan and motorhome owners to the Central Coast area. Whilst the Council encourages you to utilise the various Caravan Parks located in Turners Beach, Ulverstone, West Ulverstone and Penguin, it has passed a resolution to allow campervans and motorhomes to rest for up to 48 hours in any of the rest areas within the municipal area.
Preferred Rest Areas:
The Council has not defined any specific rest areas but it has identified a number of preferred areas for the use of visitors to our municipal area:
Lions Park, Penguin - off Penguin Road opposite the junction with Crescent Street; - note: limited to sealed area at end of roadway;
PreservationBay - on the eastern side of the Penguin Surf Club; Please note that the Surf Club Building and associated seats and tables is not available for use by overnight visitors.
Hall Point, Sulphur Creek - note: no dogs are allowed in this area as it is the location of a penguin colony; and
Unsuitable Rest Areas:
There are some areas that have been designated as unsuitable for overnight stays and are signposted either as 'no camping' or 'no overnight stays'. These areas include:
Esplanade, Turners Beach; and
Dial Street, Ulverstone.
The Council has provided wastewater dumpstations at:
Victoria Street (northern end), Ulverstone; and
Stubbs Point (on Johnsons Beach Road), Penguin
We would urge you to utilise the dumpstations provided and to leave the rest areas in at least the same, if not better, state than you found them in.
Central Coast Caravan Parks
Penguin Caravan Park, Johnsons Beach, Penguin.
Phone (03) 6427 2785
OC Ling Memorial Caravan Park, Esplanade, Turners Beach.
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Apex Caravan Park, Queen Street, West Ulverstone.
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Abbrederis is one of ten semifinalists for the Burlsworth Trophy, given to the top player who began his career as a walk-on. It's quite the honor for the Badgers junior receiver, who takes pride in the face that he's worked his way up to becoming Wisconsin's go-to guy.
MADISON, Wis. (University of Wisconsin Press Release) -- The latest in a long line of walk-on success stories at Wisconsin, junior WR Jared Abbrederis was announced Tuesday as one of 10 semifinalists for the Burlsworth Trophy.
The award is presented annually to the most outstanding player that began his career as a walk-on.
Abbrederis fits the bill as a former walk-on who was awarded a scholarship prior to the start of the 2012 season. The Wautoma, Wis., native is the Badgers' leading receiver and ranks second in the Big Ten, averaging 72.9 receiving yards per game. He ranks fourth among active FBS players with an average of 16.8 yards per reception for his career and is tied for sixth in UW history with 12 career touchdown catches.
Earlier this season, Abbrederis became the first UW player to record three consecutive 100-yard receiving games since Lee Evans accomplished the feat in 2003. Abbrederis had 147 yards vs. UTEP, 142 yards at Nebraska and 117 yards vs. Illinois.
Despite missing the second half of UW's game vs. Oregon State and the entire Utah State game, Abbrederis ranks fourth in the Big Ten with 729 receiving yards this season.
Abbrederis is one of 73 walk-ons who have earned a scholarship at Wisconsin since former coach Barry Alvarez began emphasizing the walk-on program in 1990. He is one of seven former walk-ons on the Badgers' current roster who are regular starters for UW this season.
The Burlsworth Trophy is named for Brandon Burlsworth, who walked on at Arkansas and developed into a three-year starter and All-American for the Razorbacks. Burlsworth was killed in a car accident shortly after being selected by Indianapolis in the 1999 NFL Draft.
Three finalists will be selected from the semifinalist pool on Nov. 27, and the winner will be announced Dec. 3 at a banquet in Springdale, Ark.
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Martin Blake
Martin Blake has been a senior writer for The Age since 1986 and has covered numerous AFL seasons, three cricket World Cups and various Australian cricket tours overseas, two Olympic Games, three Commonwealth Games, and a plethora of other major sports events including the British Open Championship and the US Masters. He covers all sports with an emphasis on Australian football and golf.
Pies know the score and it must get better
Martin Blake If Collingwood has problems, then some perspective is required.
Buckley stands by his under-siege forwards
Martin Blake Nathan Buckley is not happy with his two key forwards, Travis Cloke and Chris Dawes. But he believes they have copped too much of the focus since last weekend's defeat by North Melbourne.
No place to run, or hide
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Martin Blake AT THE height of his dramas, Brett Ratten has punted on a first-gamer for Carlton's season-defining game against Collingwood at the MCG tonight.


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Job Title: Information Technology
Locations: Brooklyn, New York
Reports to: CFO
Stumptown Coffee Roasters believes that each employee makes a significant contribution to our success. Creating a sustainable workplace is at the core of who we are. We've worked hard to create a great place to work and are proud of the results. We're not perfect, but being open to ideas and continually improving things has always been a fundamental part of how we work. We're the kind of workplace where each of us works hard, has fun and contributes a lot. We value each individual here and feel that everyone plays an important part in making Stumptown… Stumptown, which is our foundation for growing a successful business.
Support IT for all locations in Oregon, Washington, California and New York, with primary emphasis on supporting the New York sites. Work with a secure WAN through a mix of Provider Managed MPLS and Cisco terminated site to site VPN connections. Support a server environment that is primarily Windows Server technology with desktops a mix of PC and Mac, as well as mobile devices such as iPhone and iPad. Provide support to employees via Help Desk, which concentrates on the overall integrity of the network, server/application deployment, security and ensuring network connectivity throughout the company's LAN/WAN infrastructure.
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Come and enjoy a great range of nights and events at The Culbone.
Regular Nights
Every Wednesday is Devon Red Steak Night – 8oz Sirlion Steak with chips, tomato and mushrooms for £9.75 each
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Every Friday is our Brixham Day Boat Recipes – delicious seafood dishes from the last fishing boats of the weekend.
1st – Seafood
22nd – Thai
29th – Italian
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evertontv is offering supporters a rare opportunity to meet the face of the Club's official broadcast service.
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Joint Spatial and Temporal Correlation Exploitation for Wyner-Ziv Frames Coding in DVC
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Source coding by exploiting the temporal and spatial correlations in an input video stream is well established in conventional video coding. However, when Distributed Video Coding (DVC) is concerned, shifting the source coding from the encoder to the decoder made this a more complicated and possibly a sub optimal process. Exploiting the temporal correlations has so far been attempted utilizing the key frames, by motion compensation using the interpolated (or extrapolated) motion field. However, exploiting the spatial correlations within the DVC framework is still an unsolved problem.
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Microsoft Express Mouse
Making wired cool. Looking to reinvigorate the $20 wired mouse category with their BlueTrack Technology, Microsoft knew it would take more than great tracking to get the attention of a demographic enamored with all things wireless. Microsoft turned to Carbon for a solution that would change the perception that wired mice are inherently uncool.
In truth, wired is cool. Wired mice don't run out of batteries, they never have connection issues, they're more environmentally friendly, and they have a lighter wallet impact than their wireless cousins. The youthful audience for this price point may be cost conscious, but they are also design savvy. Carbon worked with Microsoft to design a mouse that would help overcome the misperception that "wired" means "yesterday's technology."
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A Poem For Srila Prabhupada3,093 Views / EMail This Post / Print This Post / Home » A Poem For Srila Prabhupada
A Poem For Srila Prabhupada
(published in BTG 1996)
By Kalakantha Dasa
You could have stayed in Vrndavana,
Where chanting is most sweet,
Or moved to holy Navadvipa,
In spiritual retreat.
Your Godbrothers had temples there
With room enough for you
To sit and preach each Gaura Purnima
To a visitor or two.
You could have said, "It's Krsna's will—
My visa was denied;
I may have failed, but now I know,
At least, that I have tried."
Your patron said you'd die abroad;
Your Godbrother just scoffed;
You could have said, "Who'll meet the boat
And guide me safely off?"
You could have had one look at us
And said, "What have I done?"
And caught the next boat back to home,
Unblamed by anyone.
"The Westerners," you could have said,
"Can go to hell and stay."
Who would have disagreed with you?
We were well on our way.
Instead you laid your final years
Like flowers at Krsna's feet,
Siddhanta's smile your hidden guide,
Thakura's vision in reach.
Producing eighty volumes
As you guided us along,
You showed us how to cook prasada
And preach Lord Krsna's song.
And as we preach, the boys and girls
From every land on earth
Come forth to serve you, Prabhupada,
Renewed in second birth.
I could have been a doctor,
Had I but stayed in school;
Might have made a couple million,
Built a fancy house and pool.
I could have written novels,
Legislated laws and rules;
I could have been a music star;
I could have just been cool.
Instead I laid my youthful years
Like flowers at your feet;
Malpouras caused my interest,
Samosas my defeat.
My Dad said, "Son, you're brainwashed!"
My friend said, "You're a fool!"
My shortfalls as a Vaisnava
Numbered many, victories few.
Reflecting on my bygone youth,
(As at mid-life one is prone,)
I wouldn't trade your glance for gold,
Your words for precious stones.
This morning on the japa trail,
The northern star shone down;
So fixed and true, it seemed like you,
With devas circling round.
But dawn concealed that heavenly stage
And lit a wintry scene,
Of all I am, and all you are,
And all that lies between.
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Energy Demand in Pakistan: A Disaggregate Analysis
AbstractThis study examines the demand for energy at disaggregate level (gas, electricity and coal) for Pakistan over the period 1972-2007. Over main results suggest that electricity and coal consumption responds positively to changes in real income per capita and negatively to changes in domestic price level. The gas consumption responds negatively to real income and price changes in the shortrun, however, in the long-run real income exerts positive effect on gas consumption, while domestic price remains insignificant. Furthermore, in the short-run the average elasticities of price and real income for gas consumption (in absolute terms) are greater than that of electricity and coal consumption. The differences in elasticities of each component of energy have significant policy implications for income and revenue generation.
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- Muhammad Arshad Khan & Usman Ahmad, 2008. "Energy Demand in Pakistan: A Disaggregate Analysis," The Pakistan Development Review, Pakistan Institute of Development Economics, vol. 47(4), pages 437-455.
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Branford,Guilford or nearby CT
- nbermas Jul 8, 2009 04:45 PM
Best lunch on the water please? What to order and want clean food, not fried, thank you.
On the water: let's see. In Guilford there are really only two choices, and they're across the street from one another. Guilford Mooring is right on the docks, and has a nice view. They have all the fried stuff, but other things as well - it's not a clam shack. Food varies in quality (the onion rings are consistently good, but you said "not fried"), but isn't bad, Across the street, the Stone House has rather classier food offerings, but less of a view. Scargod has said he wasn't impressed with the food here, but my wife and I go reasonably often, and while we have never been blown away, we have had pretty consistent good food: fish, steaks, lamb, etc - no particular recommendations, apart from the general advice to go for one of the specials if anything there appeals to you. And essentially nothing fried here.
I'll let others speak for Branford, where my favorite place near water is Lennie's, definitely a haven for fried stuff (though they also have lots that isn't fried). If by "on the water" you just mean "in a shoreline community," I would highly recommend Assaggio just below the Branford Green on Montwese St. This place occasionally gets mentioned (always positively) on this board, though I can't find a full review. Outdoor seating in summer (with a bit of street noise), consistently excellent food and a modestly interesting wine list. But the only water you'll see there is a puddle in the parking lot from all the rain lately.
In addition to linguist's parsing of Guilford and Branford, there are a few shore places east of Guilford.
In Clinton, Aqua is near the Sound but last time I was there I didn't see much of the water from an inner table. In Westbrook, Boom is in the middle of the marina and you can see boats going in and out, but it is not "on" the sound. Old Saybrook has several restaurants on the river, but it's not "near" Guilford, so I won't give details. Madison has "The Wharf", but has had mixed reviews for service in the past . Maybe new staff this year will help.
Food is ok by the way, but none of these is 4 star.
re: DonShirer
We haven't visited Aqua in Clinton this year, but last year they were really getting their act together food-wise. If it's water you want, ask the servers to sit you in the rear of the dining room, with a view of the patio, dock, and the Sound.
If you're willing to go all the way to Westbrook, Bill's Seafood is not right on the Sound (it's on an inlet across from a large marina), but you can eat on a lovely patio and get the whole "seaside" experience. Warning: keep your ordering simple -- don't be lured by anything that's too complex from this kitchen or you'll be disappointed. However, their standard bill of fare is quite good for what it is.
I'm confused by this and other posts where you have asked for restaurants meeting specific criteria. Previously you have asked for "clean' restaurants. Now you are asking for "clean food". Are these one in the same and you just don't eat fried foods?
I can suggest this place:
"The Place", Outdoor Restaurant
BYOB primitive outdoor eating place famous for its ambiance and seafood. Steamed mussels, steamers, clams, grilled lobster, roasted corn, catfish and steak. BBQ pit. Sit on stumps and no "table" service!
I don't believe much, if anything, is fried.
re: Scargod
Whatever his sense of "clean," The Place surely doesn't meet the criterion of "on the water" unless he just means in a shoreline community. And even then it's no use for lunch, since they only do dinners.
re: Scargod
OMG, I can't believe that place is still there and operating. Been there FOREVER.
I've been to both Guilford Mooring and Lenny's. We went to Lenny's with friends on July 4. It's not really on the water, but the outside deck backs up to the marsh. The seafood was decent, huge portions.
Been to Guilford Mooring twice, both on a weekend. Very good clam chowder...went for a quick lunch on a rainy Saturday and then with friends on a Friday night. Very crowded on the weekends. I've heard people say not to go there during the week b/c the food is terrible.
re: mrsbuffer
I've not been to Guilford Mooring, and I understand that your information is second hand, so please excuse me if I am off base. Your comment about Guilford Mooring is ironic to me. During the week , when they are not as busy, they serve poorer quality food? Then on the weekends, when they are stressed to the max, they serve good food? How can this be? Do they have a different set of people in the kitchen on the weekend?
BTW, I intend to visit Lenny's very soon!
I have been to Lenny's, the Mooring & the stone house and would not recommend any of them. Stone House & the Mooring were mediocre at best. Lenny's was better but did not impress.
For seafood we go to Lenny & Joe's (madison or Westbrook - neither on the water)
For an on the water VERY casual lunch we like Lobster Landing on the dock in Clinton. Lobster rolls, chips, hot dogs & sodas.
good luck - I would recommend expanding your town criteria.
re: debvil
What to say? I live here, and I go to all of these places regularly. No one would call any of the three (Stone House, Guilford Mooring, or Lennie's) a destination "qui vaut le voyage." But assuming you're starting in or around Guilford/Branford, going to Lennie's is at least as rewarding as going out to Westbrook to Lenny & Joe's. I like Lenny & Joe's in Westbrook, but the fact that you have to organize your own beverage service for the Madison location is a turnoff for me. YMMV. In any case, I do not think the food is significantly better at L&J's in either location. And we are not talking about gastronomic pilgrimages, so convenience matters.
Guilford Mooring is a place that is perfectly acceptable if you're in the neighborhood: again, not worth going out of your way for, but a nice view of the water and perfectly OK waterfront food.
The Stone House is actually pretty good much of the time. Again,not a place to go a long way way out of your way for, but quite acceptable for a "good" dinner (i.e., not fried stuff)) if you're in the neighborhood, And depending on where you sit, you might get a little bit of water view.
For the nec plus ultra in lobster rolls, you should probably go to Clinton or Westbrook (or to Maine, really...). But you can still have a worthwhile dinner at Lennie's, Guilford Mooring or the Stone House.
re: linguist
When I lived in Guilford, we used to call the Stone House the place for the Last Supper b/c it was always full of bluehairs!
re: Phurstluv
The Stone House has been through a number of incarnations over the time I've lived in Guilford (15 years now), some more successful than others. The current format seems pretty stable, and you have to be pretty picky not to find anything to your taste there. Hardly a young crowd, even in the bar, but I don't see wheelchair accessibility as a major issue....
re: linguist
Yea, it was the same when I lived there over 20 years ago! Some things never change.
re: kristiemoon
The Place is a nifty, rustic outdoor, seasonal place where they cook seafood outdoors on grills and you sit on stumps or segments of a tree and tables are cable spools. Corn on the cob, steamed and grilled seafood.
901 Boston Post Rd, Guilford, CT - (203) 453-9276
re: kristiemoon
You MUST go to Lenny & Joe's. And I'm only going along with "dirty" to mean "fried" as opposite of "clean/unfried." Allocate an extra $6 for the requisite L&J's t-shirt, so you get the full experience (been there, done that, bought the t-shirt). Need convincing? Here's a link to their scallop roll...along with plenty of other "dirty" (good!) recommendations from others on our board:
re: Spaizy
Still great after all these years? Loved Jimmie's.
sorry i'm comming in a little late on this - i go to all the places mentioned quite often and think all are just fine, maybe not great, but pretty consistantly o k. or better.
some can surprise me every once in a while like Aqua Grill (as recent as this weekend)which has new owners and even Guilford Mooring which has had some very good soup of the day specials.
i'm surprised a couple of places not mentioned - Sams Dockside which has new owners and the Blue Cottage which is just down the road and accross from Lennie's that just opened this season. both are much like the others and non-fried food is available. funny, i've heard complaints about all the places and i've yet to have a BAD meal in any of them...maybe i'm just lucky.
re: ryone
It all may be a matter of taste. I know nothing of your age, dining experience or preferences.
For some of us, it is a value equation, where we feel that OK, or mediocre food is not worth the money spent, time, or effort it takes to go to a place that is only "so-so" or "never bad".
True, you cannot say an average meal is "bad". For some, a restaurant can also have redeeming qualities , like view, atmosphere, service, convenience, etc.
Partly, that is why it pays to read and get to know Chowhounds in your neck of the woods, who seems to have a similar preferences as you. Then add them to your favorites so they are easy to keep up with. It can also be enlightening to find a "lead hound" and elevate your sights a bit.
BTW, good to see you commenting on Chowhound.
re: Scargod
Say, what?
Just offering my humble opinion that any of the mentioned places while perhaps not being considered extraodinary by some, are what I consider an average dining expirience at the expected price points for this area. That the establishments continue to remain open I think shows they fill a market need.
If you want to save your money for fine dining only, then perhaps you should look elsewhere. As I said, I've heard complaints and compliments about all of them and take the opinions as I do with this board, with a grain of salt - no pun intended..
By the way, for on or near the water dining I neglected to add Nelli Greene's on the Branford Harbor. A resonably fixed price meal special with a bottle of wine, I believe on Wed. and half priced bottles of wine with diner, again I believe on Mon. or Tues., but please check with the establishment for actual specials.
And oh, I do dine around....
re: ryone
OK, easy sleazy, excuse me! I dine around, too! I still have no reference point for you, since I don't know your age, sex or preferences and you have seven posts. You should fill out the My Chow profile area. You have not given me anything to go on except that "you dine around".
Your humble opinion is fine. I do not think we are in any disagreement here, except that fine dining is not required to be discriminating. The idea I am trying to foster is to not accept non-bad meals. You want better than non-bad.; better than just OK!
Thanks for mentioning Nellie's I have not been yet. They even serve breakfast! http://www.nelliegreens.com/menus.html
re: Scargod
Yes, try Nellie's for breakfast - the pancakes have been consistantly to MY liking the three times I have had them. If YOU like them with a little crisp at the very edges (not at all burnt!) finish then you should enjoy them. Also, they are quite proud they serve real maple suryp. While not for breakfast, the beet and walnut salad is also very good. As for profiling, I enjoy food. Some males in their twentys have excellent pallets and some females in their sixtys can't boil water - I am neither. I'm sorry if you found my previous reply offensive. It was not intended to be and yes I understand your problem with my 'OK' and 'not bad' but I still recommend all of the establishments.
I always like Guilford Mooring - food is fresh and I've never had a bad meal there. They have a shrimp and lobster saute with linguine that is excellent. Also like The Blue Cottage in Branford, their food is also fresh - I've been there twice this summer. Nellie Green's in Branford is a fun place to go and the food is usually good - but i haven't been there this summer. Last time I went to Dockside in Branford I wasn't very impressed - it was just ok. Lenny and Joe's Fishtail has always been good - there are two locations, one in Madison and one in Westbrook. The Westbrook location is a sit-down restaurant. Places I haven't enjoyed are Stone House in Guilford and Lennys in Branford.
re: Shoreliner
Welcome back (?) or just thanks for posting again. I always enjoy your comments. New places too, for me to consider! What is the Blue Cottage like?
re: linguist
Thank you. I guess I forgot, or meant to forget it. Several mentions of LOUD, a pet peeve, and opinions all over the place, which gives me total pause. Not that I disbelieve Shoreliner, but it seems to fluctuate a lot...and perhaps they will get it together if we collectively think positive thoughts. Never mind, y'all do it. ;')
re: Shoreliner
Sorry you didn't care for Dockside. They have new owners and personnaly I think the food has improved. I'll go out on a limb here and say if you are willing to try them again, the tuna (I like it with the blue cheese finish) while maybe not susi grade is very good. Just make sure they don't over do it.


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Corn on the Cob with Chile Butter
4 tablespoons (1/2 stick) butter, softened
1 tablespoon minced fresh hot green chile (like jalepeno)
Salt and freshly ground black pepper
8 ears fresh corn
1. Put the butter in a small bowl, add the chile and a sprinkle of salt and pepper, and stir until combined.
2. Peel the husk from the corn and remove as much of the silk as possible. Break or cut off the stem.
3. Put a large pinch of salt in a stock pot with enough water to come 1 inch up the sides, then add the corn. It's okay if some of the ears sit in the water and some sit above it.
4. Cover the pot, put it over high heat and bring to a boil. The fresher the corn, the less you want to cook it, so start checking about 3 minutes after the water boils. You want the corn hot and just tender, but not tough, so don't let it go longer than 10 minutes. To serve, drain the corn, then smear the ears with the chile butter.
Green Beans with Crisp Shallots
1 1/2 pounds green beans
1 tablespoon butter
2 medium shallots, thinly sliced
freshly ground black pepper
1/4 cup sliced slmonds, optional
1. Bring a stockpot of water to a boil and salt it. Fill a large bowl with cold water and lots of ice cubes and keep a colander handy. To trim the beans, snap or cut off the stem end and any brown spots. Cut them into 2-inch pieces or leave them whole.
2. Add the green beans to the boiling water and cook until they just start to get tender but remain quite crunchy, 3 to 5 minutes depending on the size of the beans. Drain the beans and immediately plunge them into the ice water. Let them sit for a minute to cool thoroughly, then drain them. (You can prepare the beans up to a day before finishing the dish, cover well and refrigerate.).
3. Put the oil and butter in a large skillet over medium-high heat. When the butter melts, add the shallots and cook stirring once or twice, until they're golden brown and crisp, 5 to 10 minutes. Transfer the shallots to a plate lined with paper towels. Leave the fat in the pan.
4. Add the green beans to the skillet. Sprinkle with salt and ppper and cook stirring occasionally, until the beans are crisp-tender, 3 to 5 minutes. Taste and adjust the seasoning and serve hot or warm with the shallots on top and almonds sprinkled over if yuo're using them.
Garlicky Sweet Potatoes
2 pounds sweet potatoes
1/4 cup olive oil
2 tablespoons minced garlic
salt and freshly ground black pepper
1. Peel the sweet potatoes and grate them by hand or with a grating dish or a food processor; you should have about 5 packed cups; save any extra for another use.
2. Put 2 tablespoons of the oil in a large skillet over medium-hight heat. When it's hot, add half the sweet potatoes, spread them out in an even layer, and sprinkle with half of the garlic and some salt and pepper. Cook, without stirring, until the potatoes begin to brown on the bottom and release easily from the skillet, 3 to 5 minutes.
3. Continue cooking, stirring every 2 to 3 minutes, until the potatoes are mostly golden brown and tender but not mushy; begin checking after about 5 mintues. When they're ready, transfer them to a serving plate.
4. Repeat with the remaining ingredients. Add the second bath of sweet potatoes to the first and toss to combine. Taste, adjust the seasoning, toss again and serve.


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US News
Malibu Thanksgiving weekend blaze claims 53 homes
By M&C US News Nov 26, 2007, 20:24 GMT
A firefighting helicopter drops water on a home in the path of wildfires burning in Malibu, California, USA, 24 November 2007. EPA/PAUL BUCK
Cooler, foggier weather and a perfectly choreographed aerial assault helped firefighters knock down the blaze that destroyed dozens of homes along winding canyon roads, the second major fire here in as many months.
The marine layer settling in from the Pacific Ocean kept temperatures low and moisture levels high Sunday, while 30 aircraft repeatedly dropped fire retardant and water that snuffed out most of the flames.
CNN reports that the fire was over 70 percent contained after burning more than 4,720 acres. Fire officials said they hope to have the blaze under control by Monday.
Residents made their way back Sunday to see if their homes were among the 53 that were burned to the ground. Several homes along Corral Canyon Road, which bore the brunt of the blaze, were reduced to blackened wrecks, while many others were virtually untouched.
Thirty-four other homes were damaged and as many as 14,000 people were evacuated from the blaze, which was whipped up by cooler, yet extremely dry Santa Ana winds.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger surveyed the damage and hugged Jennifer Grossman who returned from a trip to find her home destroyed.
"This is very, very sad," Schwarzenegger said to Grossman. "We're going to help you."
Malibu was still recovering from last month's 4,565-acre Canyon Fire that destroyed six homes, two businesses and a church when the winds began whipping up again.
Hundreds of firefighters and equipment from throughout the state had been positioned in Southern California for most of the week because of the predicted Santa Ana winds.
Investigators said the fire, which broke out along a dirt road off a paved highway, was caused by humans, but they had not determined if it was started intentionally, county fire Inspector Rick Dominguez said.
Sheriff's deputies with bloodhounds were seen headed into the area that residents said is a popular spot for outdoor partying by young people. Several locals were convinced the fire was started by late-night revelers who may have lit a campfire.
"I've been up there and seen howling groups of teenagers drinking," Corral Canyon Road resident Ricardo Means, 57, said of the rugged spot near the far end of the winding road where blackened beer bottles could be seen littering the ground.
Saturday's fire was west of the areas of Malibu that burned in October.
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