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The Associated Press is reporting that teens have found another use for hand sanitizer – an affordable and available way to get drunk.
"Teenagers are showing up in Los Angeles emergency rooms after drinking inexpensive liquid hand sanitizers to get drunk."
"Cheap and easily accessible hand sanitizers contain 62 percent ethyl alcohol."
"The Los Angeles Times (http://lat.ms/HXEj9v) says six teenagers have shown up in two San Fernando Valley emergency rooms in the last few months with alcohol poisoning after drinking hand sanitizer."
"Some of the teens used salt to separate the alcohol from the sanitizer, making a potent drink similar to a shot of hard liquor. Distillation instructions can be found on the Internet."
"Although there's only been a few cases, county public health toxicology expert Cyrus Rangan says it could signal a dangerous trend."
Growing up in the 1980s in the suburbs of Atlanta, Robitussin was the legal and available drug of choice. It could be found at your friends' houses or easily bought at the local drug store. I didn't know kids smoking pot but I knew a whole heck of lot of kids drinking Robitussin.
I'm just impressed that the hand sanitizer is at least the right type of alcohol. At least ethyl alcohol is consumable. Rubbing alcohol is another desperate choice and one not for consumption. (All the other '80s teens remember Kitty Dukakis.)
According to the Betty Ford Center:
"Rubbing alcohol is not ethyl alcohol (beverage alcohol), but isopropyl alcohol, a totally different chemical than the alcohol of beer, wine, or liquor. The lethal dose of isopropyl alcohol by mouth in adult humans is about 8 ounces. Another kind of poison is wood alcohol. This is methyl alcohol and it breaks down in the liver to formaldehyde. Those who survive after drinking it often suffer permanent blindness. As little as 2 ounces of wood alcohol can be fatal."
The 2010 book "The Poisoner's Handbook: Murder and the Birth of Forensic Medicine in Jazz Age New York" by Deborah Blum, goes into great detail about Americans drinking rubbing alcohol and wood alcohol during Prohibition. It has terrible stories of the effects of these alcohols, which are clearly not meant to be drunk. (So at least the hand sanitizer is consumable, although probably not a great comfort.)
So what do you think: Will you be locking up the hand sanitizer with the bourbon and tequila? Have you heard of teens doing this? Will you ask your teens if they have heard of this or tried this? Would you notice if hand sanitizer was disappearing at a rapid rate?
– Theresa Walsh Giarrusso, Momania on ajc.com
UPDATE: The Los Angeles Times is reporting more numbers the hand sanitizer drinking trend. Here's what they are finding:
"The California Poison Control System has received 60 reports of teenagers drinking hand sanitizer since 2010, showing the dangerous trend is not unique to Los Angeles."
"Hand sanitizer, which has 62% ethyl alcohol, produces a potent drink that can cause alcohol poisoning. Some of the cases involve teenagers who used salt to separate out the alcohol."
"There were also 147 cases involving children ages 6 to 12 and 2,180 cases ages 0 to 5, believed to have accidentally ingested the gel, according to poison control service, part of the UC San Francisco's Department of Clinical Pharmacy."
"The vast majority of all the cases statewide were minor and treated at home, but about 50 of the youths went to a hospital or were referred to a hospital for treatment."
"In Los Angeles County since March, there have been 16 cases of teenagers requiring medical attention, according to the California Poison Control System."
"Officials began separately tracking hand sanitizer cases in 2010."
April 25th, 2012
2:31 am
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April 25th, 2012
6:19 am
Teenagers are common sense STUPID!
April 25th, 2012
6:54 am
Here's an original idea, use soap and water to "sanitize". You are not about to perform open heart surgery; you are just cleaning the kitchen. If you just really have to kill every germ in North America, just mix an ounce of chlorine bleach with a quart of water, in a spray bottle. pffff pffff = dead germs. If the little morons drink that stuff, just chalk one up to Darwin.
I am shocked to learn that Theresa was a Robitussin head. Those kids were scared of a joint, but ready and willing to render their kidneys into so much rotting flesh, because it was legal, so it must be OK, right? I stayed with the kids that were organic…moonshine…REALLY good moonshine, in what we called hunch punch. Golden Grain worked for this purpose, but our crusty old moonshiner never checked IDs. Yes, weed was part of the fun and we even searched (and found abundant) cow pastures for 'shrooms.
It's OK, I stopped wandering around in cow pastures years ago…the landowners were getting to be better shots.
April 25th, 2012
6:58 am
The thing about cow pastures is that you have to watch out for the bull. Then again, you don't have to be faster than the bull, just not the slowest person out of all of your friends.
Kids will experiment and that's all there is to it. Sadly, some of the experiments nowadays are more dangerous.
Common sense never played much of a factor when a teenager wants to try something.
April 25th, 2012
7:20 am
kids in the 60s were trying Alka Seltzer and coke, smoking dried banana peelings, And binaca breath drops on your cigarette filter. here we are 44 yrs later and whats changed ???? Nothing ! Face it Kids are Stupid!
April 25th, 2012
8:00 am
they sure as hell will be after this promotion you morons
April 25th, 2012
8:24 am
At least they aren't smoke pot. That stuff will………………. not kill you or harm you. I think it is time to tax and regulate. maybe these kids will switch to cigs or beer. I heard they are harmless. that is what the camel told me and that dog spudz.
the kids are not stupid, our laws are. we are the idiots who continue to elect these idiots that refuse to look at the science not some lobbist from the beer and tobacco companies.
April 25th, 2012
8:30 am
I wonder, who was the first one to look at some hand sanitizer, and go….hmmmm, I think I'll drink some of this and see what happens???
April 25th, 2012
8:37 am
I love the internal organ sanitizer.
April 25th, 2012
8:43 am
Anem Mark!
April 25th, 2012
8:43 am
Ooops *Amen*,,,,,my fingers are working faster than my brain this a.m.
April 25th, 2012
8:57 am
Right now Im high as a kite from drinking this delicious elixir!! Thanks for the tip!
April 25th, 2012
9:01 am
Good grief! I'm with shaggy -don't have hand sanitizer around! If they go buy it on their own to get wasted on, they're idiots.
I also never got the Robitussin thing. I never even heard of it until I was an adult! I guess you city kids were more "advanced" than those of us in the country who just smoked weed and got the town drunk to buy us six packs from the gas station. After the amount of the disgusting Robitussin my mom shoved down my throat for coughs as a child, I would rather smoke a J any day!
April 25th, 2012
9:07 am
OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN! WE'VE GOT TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN from another over-blown fake "epidemic".
April 25th, 2012
9:11 am
I guess it's a good thing we don't have locks on the liquor cabinet or kegerator… I think I'd rather our son drink a regular ol' 5% alcohol beer than resort to hand sanitizer. Good thing we aren't germaphobes- he'd have to go buy some if he wanted to drink it.
April 25th, 2012
9:11 am
I don't usually drink hand sanitizer, but when I do, I drink Purell.
April 25th, 2012
9:19 am
Whitens your smile, freshens your breath……..very handy!
April 25th, 2012
9:21 am
OK Moms out there. What perscription drugs (you know the good kind of drugs , the 'legal' kind) are currently in your home? You can bet that your kids have tried all of them. If you thik they haven't, just look in the mirror the see who the stupid one is. Hand sanitizer, really, that's your concern???????
April 25th, 2012
9:35 am
everyone knows hand sanitizer is a gateway to robitussin, which is a gateway to alcohol soaked tampons, which is a gateway to sniffing glue, which is a gateway to computer duster, which is a gateway to candy cigarettes, which is a gateway to real cigs, which is a gateway to beer, which is a gateway to liquor, which is a gateway to ……..drumroll…….the god father of all gateway 'drugs' and the root of all evil in our society, the fuel for rampant crime and mayhem, the devil weed itself, POT. Once the kids are on the pot, it's all down hill from there. We're all going to hell. BTW did I remember to give Sally & Tommy their ADD pills today, those things are great, they are so less rambunctious and easier to parent when they take their pills, they saty still for the pictures I post on Facebook better too, aren't they cute. Now what am I goning to do with all these hand sanitizer coupons I've been clipping, darn it's hard being a mom
April 25th, 2012
9:48 am
Shaggy I have never taken robitussin for anything other than a cough and never touched a drug or cigarette. I never got drunk until college and I was 21. (I had an occassional drink before 21 but was never drunk.)
April 25th, 2012
9:56 am
I drank some toilet water once but only got sick. No high whatsoever.
April 25th, 2012
9:59 am
@who's the smart one…HAHAAAAAAAA! Good one! Now where is that ritalin? I need to get this house in shape!
April 25th, 2012
10:20 am
HAHAHAHA – the posts today are hilarious!
I guess I missed out on Robitussin in high school, and didn't find out about hunch punch until college. Don't. Eat. The. Fruit.
Every day there's some new stupidity…
April 25th, 2012
10:31 am
And this is why drugs should be legalized…
April 25th, 2012
10:43 am
There is no end to the ingenuity of the teenage mind . . . *sigh*
LOL at the "I drink Purell . . ." THAT was funny!
April 25th, 2012
11:12 am
Old enough to remember getting high from model airplane and car glue. Downside was it came with a nasty headache.
April 25th, 2012
11:18 am
Gurgle gurgle… mmmmm.. deeeelish!
April 25th, 2012
11:39 am
I obviously didn't have a life in high school (other than working once I turned 16.) Never tried drugs or alcohol. I drink beer now, and the only drugs in my house are blood pressure medications and Ibuprofen for pain relief. Guess I still don't have a life.
April 25th, 2012
12:22 pm
"Guess I still don't have a life."
You need to get busy. Synthetic MaryJane, Purell, modeling glue, banana peels, fermented apple juice! You are missing out!
April 25th, 2012
12:37 pm
It's the parents' fault. Back when I was young, if you said something bad, they would tell you to wash your mouth with soap! Now they are doing it for fun.
April 25th, 2012
12:39 pm
Let's see, I believe a huge number of adults drink beer, booze, and wine to the point where they lose their jobs, kill others, and destroy themselves and their families. Adults. Who should know better. Go figure.
April 25th, 2012
12:43 pm
Remember when your mother would spit on a kleenex and clean your face when you were a child? Well, now that would finally be OK.
April 25th, 2012
12:59 pm
Here is a tip. Drinking a bottle of Ms Butterworth will give one hell of a sugar rush.
April 25th, 2012
1:15 pm
Try shooting a tablespoon of cinnamon…another rage amongst teens….
April 25th, 2012
1:21 pm
April 25th, 2012
2:14 pm
I knew a guy (of adult age) that would drink Brut aftershave.
Didn't Kitty Dukakis also drank aftershave and hairspray.
April 25th, 2012
2:30 pm
Ms Kitty Dukawfulus drank strait from the isopropyl bottle.
Ms Kitty from Gunsmoke fame drank whatever the saloon had to offer and Matt Dillon wouldnt marry her due to here being a full blown alcoholic, amongst other things. ;)


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Yummy treat with a flavor similar to the cheddar cheese cracker squares sold in the red box :), BUT more elegant and flavorful. Chilling longer than an hour was better; the harder dough cuts more cleanly. These are wonderful warm from a plate or basket, but for a variation I served on a tray, topped with a small piece of turkey and a small dab of pepper relish. A tiny pear slice (with the relish) was even better. For ease I would certainly make again.
Blue Cheese-Walnut Wafers
Don't substitute margarine for butter in this recipe. The butter makes these wafers wonderfully short and the dough easier to handle.
Yield: 4 dozen
- 1 (4-ounce) package blue cheese, softened
- 1/2 cup butter, softened
- 1 1/4 cups all-purpose flour
- 1/3 cup finely chopped walnuts
- Process first 3 ingredients in a food processor until smooth, stopping to scrape down sides. (Mixture will be sticky.) Spoon mixture into a bowl; stir in walnuts. Cover and chill 5 minutes.
- Divide dough in half. Shape each portion into an 8-inch log. Wrap in heavy-duty plastic wrap; chill 1 hour.
- Slice dough into 1/4-inch-thick slices; place on ungreased baking sheets.
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I went to the movies by myself yesterday. I found it refreshing, if for nothing else, the confusion it causes other people in the theatre.
My boyfriend is not in town right now and he mentioned several times that he was going to see the new Batman movie, opening weekend, no matter what. Knowing him and his big mouth (he is somewhat of a gossip) I knew he was going to spoil it. I was also feeling somewhat anti-social, so I decided to head to the movies myself.
I bought my ticket, got my drink and snack, and the 13 year old boy ripped my stub (that sounds both kinky and painful). I walked into the theatre, found a seat and sat down. There was a bunch of people in there, but I managed to find an empty section. As time went on and no other person came and sat next to me, I could hear people behind me whispering. "Seriously, is that chick here by herself?" "I would never go to the movies by myself." "That is so weird." I'm sure my smirk over this added to their confusion.
Best part of the whole thing? Whenever I go to the movies with someone else, inevitably some jerk comes by and sits right next to me. Even if the theatre is wide open. It makes me crazy. Sending me completely over the edge is when the boyfriend says, "Oh who cares where people sit? Just let it go and enjoy the movie." No! I can't let it go. Why on earth would you want to sit right next to someone when if you moved up or down one row, you would sit with room on all sides?
Problem solved when you go by yourself. The theatre filled up quickly, but I had at least six seats on either side of me, plus no one in front or behind. Being a weird loner girl strikes fear into people.
Long story, but Batman was excellent, but the satisfaction of knowing people were trying to figure me out was fabulous.
Sunday, July 20, 2008
Going Stag
I went to the movies by myself yesterday. I found it refreshing, if for nothing else, the confusion it causes other people in the theatre.
Posted by M-M-M-Mishy at 8:39 PM
11 comments:
- GetFlix said...
It really has to be a film like Batman before I even consider going to the movies. (Where I live, there is driving involved.)
- Monday, July 21, 2008 5:25:00 PM
- Christie said...
I should try that, I've never gone alone, but I think it would be nice.
PS, I can't stand when I go out of my way to park at the back of the lot, where no cars are, and someone ALWAYS parks right next to me, over the white line, of course, so I have to shimmy into my car.
PPS, They are lucky I didn't slash their tires.
- Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:42:00 PM
- EditThis said...
I enjoy seeing movies on my own, but it's more comfortable to do it during the day than during date night like Fri/Sat. I was in a theater with a guy once, no one else was there, and these two people came in and sat right in front of us. The guy I was with (I was so happy he did it) looked right at them and asked, "Are you fucking kidding me?" They slunk away to other seats down the way. I wish I had the balls to do that.
- Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:39:00 PM
- prettykitty said...
the only time i ever dare venture into a theater alone is at one of those artsy fartsy flicks with ralph fiennes. that way i know it's just me and a bunch of crazy cat ladies.
- Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:13:00 AM
- Deborah said...
HA! Didn't I tell you that going to the movies by yourself is awesome? It feels kind of livertaing not having to worry about the other person or the other people by trying to find enough seats for all of you to sit together.
That plus the excitement from other people trying to figure you out makes you wanna keep your head up higher, don't it?
I saw Batman, too on opening weekend. AMAZING MOVIE!
- Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:24:00 PM
- Deborah said...
By livertaing, I of course mean liberating...
- Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:25:00 PM
- Diane said...
I go to the movies all the time by myself! Well, I don't actually go to all that many movies, but generally when I do, it's alone. Like edit, I usually go during the day, rather than during prime date night time.
- Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:00:00 PM
- Jay said...
I went to a wedding by myself this weekend, holy god! I had to buck up and be brave. Going it alone builds character. I think 95% of people are so terrified of it that even you being alone at the movies made them uncomfortable!
- Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:24:00 AM
- LA said...
I often go to the movies by myself. I don't work on Fridays - the day new movies open - so sometimes I'll hit an early afternoon showing. It's quite nice.
- Tuesday, July 29, 2008 3:50:00 AM
- Cristine Alvero said...
I've been doing the same thing myself :)
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Hi! I noticed that my website isn't appearing well just in case you want to read what I think about movies being the movie buff that I also am. Cheers!
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Despite the virtuosity, influence, and public and intellectual awareness of Jane Jacob's first book, she herself believes that her later works are historically more important and earth shaking.The ultimate solution is simple. Actively replace drugs being imported into inner city neighborhoods with an alternative economy that is capable of exporting goods and services.
She concludes that the most important sociological mechanism of wealth creation is urban import replacement, supported by urban export generation.
Bill Moyers: Do you really believe, as you said to those students at Loyola, that we're not going to make it?This could be from the Fareed Zakaria discussion two FPPs below.
David Simon: We're not going to make it as a first-rate empire. And I'm not sure that that's a bad thing in the end. Empires end, and that doesn't mean cultures end completely, and it doesn't even mean that for nation-states. If you looked at Britain in 1952 and what was being presided over by Anthony Eden and those guys, you'd have said, "Man, what's going to be left?" But Britain's still there, and they've come to terms with what they can and can't do. Americans are still sort of in an age of delusion, I think. A lot of our foreign policy represents that.
Half of the adult black males in my city are unemployed. That's not an economic model that actually works.That sentence encapsulates everything wrong with this thinking. Yes it does. Look around, it works fine. That's the problem. If it truly didn't work, then this "market" everyone keeps divining would exert its "forces" and make changes. As long as I can buy an iPad not three blocks from the above referenced unemployed black males, the system is structurally sound. There might be occasional riots, but they're not going to take over the country.
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"The Government Should Shut its Eyes"
Assimilation and the Stolen Generations
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This page is organised like this:
The Battle of Battle Mountain Reconciliation The Native Police Reserves and Missions Assimilation The Torres Strait Disenfranchisment Political moves Resource: the 1938 Conference
There's also a Resources Page for this topic.
1: Battle of Battle Mountain
The first contact that Kalkadoon people had with White people was with Bourke and Wills in 1860. Over the next two decades, the Kalkadoon people fiercely resisted the occupation of their land (in what is now western Queensland).
Investigate and describe the ways in which Kalkadoon people defended the land to which they belonged. Through your research, find out and describe:
- Over what period of time did resistance take place?
- How extensive an area did this cover?
- In what ways did Kalkadoon people defend their land?
- How many people died on both sides of this conflict?
- Find as many accounts as you can and compare them.
- Investigate your local area or region to see if you can discover some little known facts about European settlement. Prepare a report of your findings. Use maps, copies of historical documents and other resources to support the record of your investigation.
2: Reconciliation
The years 1860 to 1938 saw many confrontations throughout the nation. The following excerpt is from a letter to the editor of The North West Times:Yet there have been many other White Australians who have attempted to reconcile differences. The Council for Aboriginal Reconciliation, for example, has establishes a network of Australians for Reconciliation (AFR) coordinators across Australia and it has identified eight key issues.[the government should] "shut its eyes for three months" and let the settlers deal with "the niggers" ... "once done [it] could easily be forgotten."
Write a short essay about one of these topics, using either new historical research or drawing upon the history you have already learnt:
- Understanding Country: The importance of land and sea in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander societies - all Australians care ... but some of us care in a different way.
- Improving Relationships: Better relationships between Indigenous Australians and the wider community - getting on.
- Valuing Cultures: Recognising Indigenous cultures as a valued part of Australian heritage.
- Sharing Histories: A sense for all Australians of a shared ownership of their history.
- Addressing Disadvantage: A greater awareness of the causes of the way in which Indigenous Australians have been disadvantaged - debunking myths.
- Responding to Custody Levels: A greater community response to addressing the underlying causes.
- Agreeing on a Document: Will the process of reconciliation be advanced by a document or documents of reconciliation?
- Controlling Destinies: Greater opportunities for Indigenous Australians to control their destinies.
3: The Native Police
The 'Native Police', a paramilitary group modelled on the Indian Sepoy system, became a fearsome weapon against the defending Australian Aboriginal people.
- Describe how Aboriginal men were recruited, how they were paid and the activities they were directed to carry out.
- How were the Native Police regarded by Aboriginal people? Why do you think this was so?
- Did Native Police have the same responsibilities and authority as other police officers?
- Not all members of the Native Police Force were Aboriginal. Discuss some reasons why this was so.
- In 1861, a Select Committee on the Native Police Force was appointed. Undertake research to find out what its terms of reference were, and what were the outcomes.
4:Reserves and Missions
From the 1820s, governments and churches began establishing reserves and mission stations.
Choose one of the following:
- What exactly is a reserve, and where does the term come from?
- Explain the motives behind the establishment of missions and reserves.
- How might you investigate the impact of placing people together from different cultural and language backgrounds at a mission or reserve. Conduct interviews with Aboriginal people about conditions on a reserve or a mission.
- Examine the practice of issuing exemption certificates [exemptions from being Aboriginal] -"dog tags"- to Aboriginal people and the qualifications necessary to obtain one. Discuss in terms of the Australian Constitution.
5: Assimilation
In the 1920s and 1930s, a concern for "racial purity" became a common obsession in many countries. This obsession was fed by the doctrine of Eugenics, which decreed that a race of people could be kept pure through selective breeding.
- Find out more about Eugenics and the theories on which it was based.
- Evaluate the consequences of this doctrine for Aboriginal societies;
- Identify and explore the procedures adopted by government to expedite the assimilation of Australian Aboriginal people.
- Find out about events in other countries where the theory of Eugenics was applied, such as Germany and the USA. Compare and contrast this with circumstances in Australia in the 1920s and 1930s.
6: The Torres Strait
The desire for pearl shell that could be found in the Torres Strait saw an influx of traders.
- Bring together evidence from a range of sources, and use it to evaluate political, social, economic and cultural consequences of this event for Torres Strait Islander people.
- Consult resources such as 'The Pearl Shellers of Torres Strait' by Regina Ganter and 'Stars of Tagai' by Nonie Sharp to find out more about Torres Strait Islander people. Write an account of the Maritime Strike of 1936 in terms of its importance for Torres Strait Islander people.
- Compare and contrast the books of Ion L Idriess, for example The Drums of Mer, with a non-fiction account, such as John Singe's Among Islands.
- List reasons for the omission of Torres Strait Islander people from Australian History books.
7: Disenfranchisement
With the acceptance of the Australian Constitution, many Aboriginal people, including those who had voted for the Constitution, lost the right to vote in Federal elections.
- Draw up a timeline of voting issues for Aboriginal people and Torres Strait Islander people, from the time the Federal Convention was elected (with Aborigines among the voters) in 1897, until 1962.
- Prepare an analysis of the impact of the Constitution on Aboriginal people, and present a detailed interpretation.
- Examine the following excerpt from a newspaper article, and put forward your views about why the "Chance to give Aborigines the vote [was] passed up." You may also wish to answer the questions provided following the article.
Chance to give Aborigines the vote passed up
The Menzies Cabinet in 1961 passed up an opportunity to give Aborigines the vote in federal elections despite strong pressure in Parliament for the measure to be put into law.
The Interior Minister, Gordon Freeth, told Cabinet on March 27, that the Commonwealth Electoral Bill before the House of Representatives should be amended to enfranchise up to 26,000 Aborigines in Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory.
Aborigines in NSW, Victoria and South Australia [and Tasmania] could vote federally as the Commonwealth Electoral Act since 1949 allowed them to enrol and vote for a federal election if they were entitled to vote in state lower House elections, or had been a member of the defence forces.
The new Bill before the house, among other things, removed voting restrictions on a number of "aboriginal natives" from Asia, Africa and certain Pacific islands, but said nothing about [Australian] Aborigines.
"This means there are no restrictions on the voting rights of Aborigines living in NSW, Victoria, South Australia or the ACT," Mr Freeth said.
"On the other hand, Aborigines in Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory are, for the most part, ineligible," he said.
Cabinet decided in late 1960, it would not include Aborigines in the amendments because it was considered disenfranchised Aborigines would not "understand or desire such a privilege."
The Cabinet then feared this would lead to Aborigines being prosecuted for failing to enrol and vote.
In an attempt to prod Cabinet into action, Mr Freeth raised the spectre of the ALP making Aborigines' right to vote an election issue in the general election, due by the end of 1961.
"In the current state of emotions on this subject of racial discrimination Cabinet might feel it desirable to grant full voting rights to all Aborigines," Mr Freeth said in a March 23 submission.
However, Cabinet on April 11 baulked at the invitation.
It refused to amend the Bill.
Instead it proposed a Parliamentary Joint Select Committee to study whether voting rights should be extended to disenfranchised Aborigines.
Fortunately, Aborigines did not have to wait long.
Whatever opposition there was in Cabinet dissipated after the Menzies Government sneaked back by 110 votes in the December 9, 1961, election.
A Bill was passed in 1962 giving Aborigines the right to vote in federal elections.
David Kehoe, The Canberra Times, January 2, 1992.
- Can you give an explanation for why Aborigines were disenfranchised in Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory?
- Many people have said the reason for disenfranchisement in Qld, WA and the NT was because these areas were heavily populated by Aboriginal people and they would all vote for the Labor Party. In light of the fact that the Bill was passed while a Liberal government was in power, do you think this was true? Give reasons for your answer.
- Tasmania is not mentioned in the article. What reason could there be for this omission?
- Why do you think David Kehoe put "aboriginal natives" and "understand or desire such a privilege" in inverted commas?
- Aboriginal people in some states who had been a member of the defence forces were eligible to vote. Why do you think this distinction was made?
- Voting was made compulsory for Aboriginal people and Torres Strait Islander people in 1984. (Voting was already compulsory for all other Australians - Australia is one of a very small number of countries in the world where this system operates, and it is seen as being important for the way the democratic system operates here.) Can you explain why there was a 22 year gap between being given the right to vote and being compelled to vote?
- Why do you think this topic was raised again in the newspaper in 1992, almost 30 years after the event?
8: Political Moves
As early as 1846, petitions were being prepared and presented in protest against the treatment and condition experienced by Aboriginal people. Political action is not a new thing for Aboriginal people by any means. One of the most significant and best-known overtly political events took place on January 26, 1938: the Day of Mourning protest.
- Examine the poster that invited people to the meeting and prepare a chronology of events which led to the protest. In doing so, explain why it was named 'A day of Mourning'.
- Describe what happened in 1938 - how easy/ difficult is it to research? What material is available?
- What did these events lead to? Answer either specifically, in terms of the 1930s and 1940s, or in broader terms.
Resource: the 1938 Conference
to be held in
(No. 148 Elizabeth Street)
(Australia Day)
10 a.m. to 5 p.m.
"WE representing THE ABORIGINES OF AUSTRALIA, assembled in Conference at the Australian Hall, Sydney, on the 26th day of January, 1938, this being the 150th Anniversary of the whitemen's seizure of our country, HEREBY MAKE PROTEST against the callous treatment of our people by the whitemen during the past 150 years, AND WE APPEAL to the Australian Nation of today to make new laws for the education and care of Aborigines, and we ask for a new policy which will raise our people to FULL CITIZEN STATUS and EQUALITY WITHIN THE COMMUNITY."
Aborigines and Persons of Aboriginal Blood only are invited to attend. Please come if you can!
Signed for and on behalf of
J. T. Patten President
W. Ferguson, Organising Secretary
Address: c/o Box 1924 KK
General Post Office, Sydney
Other well-known political actions
- In your research on the 1930s, what other evidence of Aboriginal political action did you find? Keep looking, and consider areas like land rights, women's reform groups, military service, housing . . .
- Land Rights also have a long history as political action. How would you go about researching the history of land-based political action in your local area (Heather Goodall's book Invasion to Embassy may be useful).
- Research the referendum of 1967, which sought the country's opinion about a) whether Aboriginal people should be counted in the census and b) whether the Commonwealth should be allowed to make laws for the benefit of Aboriginal people. A number of non-Aboriginal people such as Jessie Street and Jack and Shirley Horner have worked along side Aboriginal people to achieve human rights. Can you find out more about these people?
- Research the establishment of the 1972 Tent Embassy in Canberra. Who were the players, and how was it covered in the media? What questins would you ask of an event like this?
- Further study: Research events in your local area during one of these periods.


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Hayward beat those odds. He also validated his commitment to real-time, strategic video gaming, which his father tried to limit. Hayward argued that some StarCraft II devotees make money. His father, a software engineer, responded, "It's not going to be you, son." So, of course, Hayward recalled those words last summer when he signed an endorsement deal for video gaming.
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Gordon Hayward's NBA career statistics:
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2010-11 5.4 2.0 1.1 .485
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Hayward's offensive production has dropped off in the past six games after a six-game spurt:
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In Brownsburg, Hayward developed his athletic talent without any sense of entitlement. "More than anything, when you're from a small town, you grow up with good balance in life," said NBA veteran Kyle Korver, of Pella, Iowa. "You play all the sports, and everybody knows you, and you know everybody. You're just Gordon. You're Kyle."
Hayward competed in soccer and baseball and also tried football, often changing uniforms in the family van between venues. But the boy was raised on Brandywine Court — the cul-de-sac where the family's brick home was built the year he was born — and his career would play out on courts. Famously, he almost went full-time in tennis after his freshman year of high school, when he stood 5-foot-11 and had yet to play for the varsity.
His mother somehow persuaded the kid who never likes to lose a debate to give basketball another year. Having developed a guard's skills, he kept that ability as he grew to 6-4 as a sophomore, 6-7 as a junior and 6-8 as a senior.
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Partly because he liked to pass, Hayward never became a huge scorer in high school. The No. 9 pick in the 2010 NBA draft is not among the nine players in Brownsburg history with 1,000-plus career points (he finished with 927 in 77 games), although he ranks high in assists, rebounds and steals.
In the final games of Hayward's high-school and college careers, Kendrick and Butler's Brad Stevens basically said, "Get the ball to Gordon." The first time his teammates heard those instructions from a coach, Hayward was 4, shooting at 6-foot rims at Garfield Park in Indianapolis.
As a Brownsburg senior, playing in the NBA arena now called Bankers Life Fieldhouse, Hayward was covered on the designed inbounds play with 2.1 seconds remaining. But he grabbed a loose ball in the lane and scored to give the Bulldogs their first state championship, 40-39 over Marion.
Stevens once told the Brownsburg staff that Hayward could become Butler's first NBA product in nearly 60 years. Stevens' forecast came true far sooner than he could have known.
After his freshman year, Hayward helped the U.S. team win the U-19 world championship in New Zealand. He already was a top NBA prospect, and Butler was about to become a national phenomenon.
Supported by veteran teammates and the other five members of his tightly bonded recruiting class, Hayward led the Bulldogs through the NCAA Tournament as a No. 5 seed, continually pulling out close games. Butler came to EnergySolutions Arena for the West Regional, beating Syracuse in the Sweet 16 and Kansas State in the Elite Eight. On the floor where Jazz general manager Kevin O'Connor three months later would stand in defense of drafting him, Hayward's NBA future instantly became clear to Stevens.
Hayward dribbled the ball between his legs, stepped back and hit a 3-pointer over Kansas State's Curtis Kelly. "We'd better go to the Final Four," Stevens told his assistants, "because he's gone."
Two years and six blocks removed from the state title game, Hayward had two chances to beat Duke in the NCAA championship game at Lucas Oil Stadium. His baseline fadeaway shot looked good but sailed long. That haunts him more than the shot everyone else remembers, the buzzer-beating halfcourt attempt that banked off the rim, denying the upstart Bulldogs the biggest breakthrough in modern collegiate sports.
"It's still something that me and him talk about every once in a while — what if that would have gone in, how things would be different," said Butler's Garrett Butcher, Hayward's roommate for two years.
Hinkle Fieldhouse, Butler's historical landmark, showcases side-by-side National Finalist banners — one earned with Hayward, the other without him. Of those six freshmen in Hayward's class, four remain at Butler. Guard Shelvin Mack, now with the Washington Wizards, left school after last April's title-game defeat. The Bulldogs (18-12) have won five straight games.
Heather will graduate from Butler with a degree in chemistry in May, four years after triumphantly edging her brother in class ranking (No. 6 among 472 students). She'll forever declare herself the "oldest and smartest" twin.
In early February, when the Jazz visited Indianapolis, several dozen hometown fans received access to a brief postgame meeting with Hayward. With his hair wet, dressed in basketball shoes and a sport jacket, he took a microphone and thanked them, then answered five questions about basketball and video games before boarding the team bus.
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Chris Estridge Soccer Vancouver Whitecaps
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Lance Lynn Baseball St. Louis Cardinals
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**Gary made a NEW Numa video: http://www.newgrounds.co
m/portal/view/337573 Watch it FIRST! This is a parody of that video, NOT the original Numa Numa!**
Well, well... here it is. Fans were demanding another Numa Numa video... or were they? Either way it looks like someone finally talked Gary into making one in an effort to capitalize off the success of the first. Maybe some things are better left alone... but still, I just couldn't resist.
Rated 5 / 5 stars November 7, 2006
I thought it was funny..
I think it was funny and kinda true. Though I liked the New Numa, i still thought this was good. Sorry that most people are giving you 6's and 7's.
Rated 4.5 / 5 stars November 7, 2006
Great job!
Heh, nice job! The origional Numa Numa song was in Italian (I think) But this is in russian XD So I understood the whole thing :O
out came a rabbit,
cure me,
me for you,
(no idea what the grey poop on thing is XD)
1,2,3, just like that,
-what will be will be- (<- in english)
I love you,
Are we're in love?
I love you,
Are we in love?
I love you,
Are we in love?
I love you.
Yeah, my translation :) It's weird, but that's what it is :o
The graphics were awesome though! Great job
Rated 4 / 5 stars November 7, 2006
lol, never heard that song before though
Rated 3 / 5 stars November 7, 2006
I hate the whole Numa thing, it was good once but now it needs to die.
Even though, the animation work was very impressive.
Rated 3 / 5 stars November 7, 2006
The New Numa was a huge dissapointment.
ironicly the new animated numa parody is even more so..
the art voice acting was all top notch., but there was something cold about this piece, it was less funny than the first parody you made, and even a bit cold, and more hurtful. you first one with american idol seemed to have more thought, and overal effort involved.
something about this one, just seemed... more hateful.
the second numa bombed, and your parody flat right beside it.
I'm sorry to hear you didn't like it. I actually thought people would be bummed that this one was so "nice". It was sympathetic to Gary, showing that he was the victim. And I definitely put much more effort into this one... if you compare them, you'll notice the art and animation is a thousand times better. :)


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There was one even dirtier than that one. The company that did this got in trouble for it. They had commercials for Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny, and told kid to hold their phones up to the TV. The commercial would play a series of tones, and on touchtone phones it would dial a 1-900 number. (In case you don't know, touchtone systems use the tones themselves to dial. The phone creating the tone is what dials, so a sound recording of a tone on the dial tone will dial the number.)


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LAKE BUENA VISTA, Florida - After more than six weeks, two countries and several thousand miles on the road, we wrapped up the theme park visits on our annual family roadtrip with a visit to Laurie's home park, Walt Disney World's Epcot.Tweet
This is where Laurie played in the old Disney All-American College Orchestra back in 19*cough**cough*. And it's the Disney park I miss most, living on the West Coast. Sorry about that vote a couple weeks ago, folks, but there really isn't any doubt in our minds that whenever my family visits just one Disney theme park in Florida, it's going to be Epcot.
Epcot's the third-most popular theme park in the country, behind the two Magic Kingdoms. But it remains in form more the permanent World's Fair it was designed to evoke when it opened in 1980 than what most folks envision when they think of a theme park. I can't think of another park I've visited that lacks a roller coaster, or even a single carnival-style spinner ride. But Epcot, still, offers neither.
In tribute to my favorite Epcot attraction, I offer these Impressions de Epcot:
Narrative story-telling at its finest
Imagine this seemingly impossible task: To tell the story of America's history, in less than 30 minutes. Don't make it a whitewash - you've got to address slavery, Native American genocide and the fight for women's suffrage. You'll need to cover the Civil War, too, and don't forget that this show will play in one of the states of the former Confederacy, the side that lost that war. And, by the way, this is for a theme park attraction, so you've got to leave viewers feeling upbeat and entertained.
Disney's American Adventure nails it.
The animatronic detail in this show remains stunning (watch Mark Twain's cigar tip light up with every inhalation), even as the end-of-show video montage grows longer. As we exited, I noted that the final clip had to summarize 30 years of U.S. history when it debuted in 1980. Today, it covers 60 years. Yikes, I feel old now.
By the way, we also started up a rousing game of "which celebrities will be cut from the film on the next edit?" as well as "who will be added?" My vote? Bye-bye, Tiger Woods; Hello, Barack Obama. (I'd love to read your picks, too, in the comments.)
Stunning visual design
How can you not take a picture of Spaceship Earth?
The park's iconic geosphere commands your attention from throughout the park. Its clean, uniform design looks great from every angle, unlike some other theme parks' visual "weenies." (I love Hogwarts Castle, but as one TPI reader has pointed out in an e-mail to me, the forced perspective really doesn't work when you approach it from the Jurassic Park side.)
Okay, double rainbow jokes commence in 3, 2, 1....
Food, wonderful food
Some folks drink their way around the world. My family eats. The highlight of my visit yesterday?
The corvina en mole verde ($26) at San Angel Inn. Corvina's a saltwater fish, similar to sea bass (in fact, it's sometimes sold under that name). San Angel Inn's presentation was served on top of addictively rich Mexican creme rice, and topped with a thin slice of serrano ham. It's listed under "Chef's Recommendations" on the menu, and well keeps that promise.
I should note, though, that as much as I enjoyed the food in World Showcase, my wife and I found two chicken dishes at The Land food court in Future World absolutely inedible - I'll follow up on that and other Disney food experiences from the week in a post tomorrow.
Impressions de France remains the greatest theme park movie ever filmed
So there. You might prefer other films, but I'll always remain a fan.
We had the misfortune of sitting in front of a group of, uh, rather intoxicated ladies yesterday, who were eager to rip the show apart, making fun of the theater, the host and other guests sitting around them as the film began. But Saint-Saens' melodies and director Rick Harper's visuals soon silenced them. No, they weren't asleep. By the end of the movie, all I heard from the row behind me was a single "wow," then applause.
Thanks, Epcot. Until next time.
Readers' Opinions
From Manny Barron on August 16, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Epcot is awesome. It's huge, beautiful, and diverse. If I got one day at the World there's no doubt where I would spend it.
From KJ Simpson on August 16, 2010 at 12:40 PM
I never get tired of seeing shots of Spaceship Earth. Your report makes me long to return!
From Tyler Bell on August 16, 2010 at 1:17 PM
I was there yesterday!
From 22.214.171.124 on August 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM
I have simple tastes. Those "sparkly" pathways beside spaceship earth as darkness falls put a lump in my throat every time. That's where I feel the Disney Magic the most
From 22.214.171.124 on August 16, 2010 at 2:20 PM
Once again I log on to this site and read somebody worshipping EPCOT.
How many times do I need to voice my disapproval of this 'theme park' before people realise it is a complete waste of time in my opinion. Of course, I understand different people like different things, but it does rankle with me that Americans who have a host of great theme parks at their disposal still choose to visit EPCOT - an empty park with no good attractions!
The food is great at EPCOT, and the theming is OK in the World Showcase section of the park, but the whole place is just old now. It was great and perhaps relevant in the 1980s (I wonder how old EPCOT fans are - were you kids in the 80s perchance?) but it has not aged well.
Like most American parks, they live in their reputation from yesteryear. The only true modern parks in Florida are Islands of Adventure and Animal Kingdom (and even AK is ruined by stupid 'off the shelf' attractions like Primeval Whirl). The fact is, EVERYTHING else has not yet been brought into the 21st century. Compare this to Tokyo DisneySEA, or Disneyland Paris, or even Universal Studios Singapore. There is simply no comparison, but obviously cost-conscious and arrogant Americans are not going to venture outside of the 50 states are they?! That would be too much to ask.
I think it is ludicrous to pay for entry to a theme park where there are no thrill rides whatsoever. At EPCOT, there is Mission: Space, Soarin', and Test Track - adequate rides them all, but hardly anything to whet the appetite. Every other Disney park in Florida has a marquee attraction to draw the crowds, whereas it seems EPCOT relies on IllumiNATIONS and its [overrated] dining experiences.
I saw an article of TPI the other day whereby the author praised Disney for dressing up Mickey and Minnie in Italian attire during the opening of an envelope at EPCOT. So what? It's hardly something like that I call value for money. At the majestic Tokyo DisneySEA in Japan (I recommend researching online about this park, Americans) every Disney character is dressed in the attire of each 'port of call', so it's hardly something to lavish praise upon EPCOT for, is it?
I totally believe EPCOT should not even be a park that charges an admission fee. I think it should be Disney's free entry park, but then guests are charged for riding the attractions and so-called rides, like is the case at Blackpool Pleasure Beach in the UK.
2010 saw the opening of a major new world class attraction at Universal's Islands of Adventure, and further afield for you Americans there was a new state of the art Universal Studios theme park at Sentosa Resort World in Singapore. I find it absolutely ludicrous that even in this day and age people still harp on about EPCOT and its delicious chow mein! You people seriously need to get out more.
From James Rao on August 16, 2010 at 2:28 PM
Epcot rulz! Glad you made the trip.
I still don't get your love for Impressions, however I admittedly have not been a fan of French cinema since I forced myself to watch the critically acclaimed (yet decidedly unnecessary) films I Stand Alone, and Irreversible. Gaspar Noé and I are not on speaking terms, I assure you. And obviously, some scars just run way too deep.
Incidentally, the final comment about "...adding Robert to the Suicide Watch list..." in the thread you linked ("prefer other films") was a masterful stroke of wit and thinly veiled social commentary. I had forgotten I even wrote it. Thanks for the reminder! =)
From Joshua Counsil on August 16, 2010 at 5:14 PM
Great report, Robert. I commend San Angel Inn's effort to serve authentic Mexican food. It may not seem like much to Americans from the south, but to me and my Canadian friends, whose exposure to Mexican food is usually limited to Taco Bell and Mexicali Rosa's, it's a nice treat.
And while we're self-plugging, allow me to refer you to my Drinking around the World experience at Epcot.
From Joshua Counsil on August 16, 2010 at 5:16 PM
Sorry to post in two parts - it failed when I tried to post as one.
A "brief" explanation of why I love Epcot...
The anonymous poster is right when he/she says there aren't many worthwhile attractions. To me, there are only six must-see attractions in the park, two of which Robert mentioned above. I even consider the beloved Test Track to be a complete waste of time. For this reason, I try not to think of Epcot as a theme park, but rather as one of the world's coolest markets.
Spaceship Earth is my favourite piece of theme park architecture and it acts as the market's skyscraper. Like many skyscrapers, the ride to the top can be hit-or-miss, but the building itself is beautiful from every angle.
The streets of this market are immaculately clean and are surrounded by architecturally unique landmarks and sprawling gardens. Not to mention they sparkle at night. Free soda is available at a nearby store. A city fountain dances to music and lights every so often, putting on a show that rivals the Bellagio's. Jumping fountains add to the fun.
The interiors of many of the buildings share a likeness with many city museums: they haven't changed in decades. Regardless, the buildings have attractive exteriors and are fun to visit with people who haven't experienced them before and, every so often, a museum will be updated or replaced with something new and fresh.
In the south end of the market resides an ever-changing daily technology conference. Just east of the conference is an eco-farm and experimental greenhouse. This market also features an aquarium with friendly animal experts.
The north market, which centers around a man-made lagoon, has an array of beautiful restaurants serving international food varying in quality and pricing (though the service at every restaurant is exceptional). Street entertainers from around the world perform multiple times daily but will not request, nor will they accept, tips or donations.
In this market, there are no bylaws preventing citizens from having an alcoholic beverage in the street. Smoking is permitted in designated areas only. Public transportation is fast, efficient, and free of charge, though mostly everything is within walking distance. A nightly fireworks performance blows away the expectations of many tourists.
This market doesn't have rundown warehouses, unsightly factories, vandalized parks, litter, gangs, thieves, drug dealers, murderers, piles of concrete and steel, smog, harassing street merchants, filthy public restrooms, dead or dying trees, mesh fences, idling cars, crosswalks, or any of the other various ugly qualities that come with visiting most city markets. This is the kind of market where you can happily blow an entire day sitting in the shade, watching the other happy citizens strolling by, sipping on a cocktail of your choice.
That's why I love Epcot.
From James Rao on August 16, 2010 at 7:42 PM
I still don't get all the venom from our Anon friend (perhaps it is Gaspar Noé lurking in the shadows, still taunting me for my hatred of his tremendously brutal films?!?). Fact is, most Disney fans will readily admit that Tokyo DisneySea is the most beautiful theme park on the planet. But its $4 billion dollar beauty does not in any way lessen the appeal and uniqueness of Epcot, nor any of the other beloved parks here in the States.
So, what's your point? You don't like Epcot? Okay. I guess that means there will be one less person standing in front of me next time I go to experience Mission: Space, Test Track, and Soarin'. You don't like Americans? Okay, join the club. But before you do, you might consider the fact that were it not for an American visionary named Walt Disney, your precious Toyko DisneySea would not even exist today.
From Thomas Caselli on August 16, 2010 at 8:34 PM
To the one who seems to hate EPCOT so much, if it is that bad just don't go. I don't think anybody is forcing you to.
From Joshua Counsil on August 16, 2010 at 10:53 PM
I'd love to visit Tokyo DisneySea more than any park on Earth, but the matter at hand is the money, as I mentioned in the other thread anon attacked Epcot on. The States' parks are close and convenient. I drove from Kingston, Ontario, Canada to Sandusky, Ohio a few weeks ago on a whim to visit Cedar Point. It's a solid 10 hour drive, but it's just that: a drive. Split four ways, the gas is nothing compared to a flight to Tokyo. Not to mention I can camp for cheap in Sandusky. A one-way flight to Tokyo alone would cost at least three times as much as my entire spontaneous weekend trip to Cedar Point.
From Anthony Murphy on August 17, 2010 at 4:58 AM
Excellent report Robert! I think you got the spirit of the park down perfectly. A few things:
1. I too think Tiger Woods will go bye bye along with the Hoyts (though I think they are inspirational to the fullest), and Peter Jennings. I think the later two would get mixed up in the shuffle and nobody would really know who they are. In other words, pretty much the sports players, unless historically known (like Magic Johnson or Jackie Robinshon). Obama's footage is MADE for this show! I mean, we got Jackie Robinson and Sandra Day O'Connor. Regardless what you think of our president, he broke a huge glass ceiling. I would take some inspiration from "Golden Dreams" which is gone from DCA.
2. Suprised that the Sunshine Food Fair was a bit of a dud for you. I always have found their food much more bold and exciting than most counter service places in theme parks and you can get an excellent quick breakfast. In my opinion, its the most underrated place to eat at EPCOT.
3. Mexico, along with Norway, have been on my family's "do not eat list" for some time. Its just we hope that there are more tacos and stuff on the menu, as bad as that sounds. We prefer the outside cantina more (which was AWESOME). Still, on the inside, you can't beat the environment and the food was good, just not what what was expected I guess.
4. Intoxicated guests are the best at EPCOT. Just hang around the United Kingdom area and you will find them. Then again, its the only proper way to experience Impressions (just kidding). However, I am certain that the disembodied spirit narriator is talking to ME!!!!!!!
5. Joshua Council's "Drinking around the World" is the most important piece of journalism on this site!
6. To the Anon poster, Really?
From 220.127.116.11 on August 17, 2010 at 7:19 AM
Redading your column gets me even more excited for our Family trip to WDW in Oct 2010. This is will also be our sons 1st (post prego) visit to WDW....3rd visit in total! WE cant wait!! Epcot here we come
From Derek Morse on August 17, 2010 at 8:22 AM
I enjoy EPCOT because it is just plain and simple more laid back than the other parks. Sometimes I enjoy going with my wife and just going straight to the world showcase and walking around the countries, tasting the food and drink, and enjoying a leisurly stroll "around the world". It is defintely not a theme park in the classic sense, but if you take it for what it is, it is a wonderful relaxing day.
From Scott B on August 17, 2010 at 10:00 AM
I feel like Epcot is all about the experience. I am not sure where the Anonymous poster is coming from. I think the true measure of a great themepark is could you still have a good time without going on a single ride? To me Epcot is a loud yes to that question. I don't think it needs some large inverted coaster in order to make it better. In fact, I think that would ruin it.
From Thomas Caselli on August 17, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Well said Scott B.
From Joshua Counsil on August 17, 2010 at 1:42 PM
Peter Jennings was in the ending montage? But... he's Canadian!
Thanks for the strong compliment, Anthony, though I highly doubt my adventures through the drinking glass are all that important.
On the note of Akershus, my family considered it to be the best Epcot, and possibly theme park, restaurant when we visited in 2002. The food was authentically Scandinavian. The setting was beautiful and quiet. The service was professional and friendly. Now, it has become another damn character meal, so we have avoided a return trip. Can anyone comment on Akershus' current quality?
From Brandon Mendoza on August 18, 2010 at 12:36 PM
I agree that a great theme park has atmosphere. And even though I haven't been to Epcot in over a decade, it still stands out. And mind you, this was before I was able to drink alcoholic beverages.
Epcot is for those of us that CAN'T afford to take a trip to every continent in the world. Sure, it's a lesser experience overall, but it's a different experience. Saying that Americans don't want to visit the rest of the world is ridiculous... yes there are some that don't want to, but isn't the Epcot experience about cast members providing a pseudo-worldly experience? Where else can you see multiple versions of Santa Claus in a few hours?
At Epcot I can go to Mexico without the fear of fake Federales robbing me. At Epcot, I can go to France without worrying about being treated horribly due to being an American. It doesn't mean I don't want to travel. Travel is good when you can afford it. I'd say it's more closed minded to hate Epcot assuming that Americans don't want to travel.
Thrill rides don't make a theme park better... some of the best attractions in Universal or Disney aren't even thrill rides. Pirates of the Caribbean. USH's Studio Tour. MIB.
I'd hardly call Space Mountain, Matterhorn, or Big Thunder "extreme" thrill rides. But they're still fun. Besides, thrill rides aren't for everyone. For every person that loves Splash Mountain, there's the person that adores Peter Pan.
And the obsession with "being 21st century?". I don't get it. Most of the Haunted Mansion and Pirates have "ancient" technology and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Why have a problem with Epcot? All Disney Parks are about atmosphere and the illusion that you're in another world... so how different is Epcot's "Disney-fied" world showcase to something like the entire Magic Kingdom or Animal Kingdom or even Hollywood Studios? They're not real places, and neither are the Epcot "countries".
From Anthony J on August 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM
I want to like Epcot much more than I do, but as it stands its a hodgepodge of very dated attractions, mixed with some wonderful ones, and a few complete wastes of time. "Gran Fiesta Tour," anyone?
Whereas when it opened, I thought it was very clear what Epcot wanted to be and it succeeded. I don't think that's at all clear now.
From Tiffany J. L. Alfonso on August 20, 2010 at 7:01 AM
Thanks for the post - am going in Oct. for its International Food and Wine Festival.
From Jay Glenn on August 20, 2010 at 8:08 AM
To the anonymous poster:
Okay it's clear when you go to a theme park you don't look for immersion, you look for just rides. And that's understandable. Epcot isn't about that. Epcot is inspirational. It's there to teach and entertain at the same time. And it does it quite well. Test Track, Mission: SPACE, Soarin' IMO are great rides. Say what you want but I don't think any GM plant would let you go through their test course. Also The Land is just amazing. Living With The Land teaches the public about our agricultural future. Then you have the Seas. Sure Nemo is there but SeaBase Alpha is pretty amazing. Also Innoventions is a great way to learn how to better prepare yourself for the future.
To say the World Showcase's theming is OK, well you really need to take in all the sights. Especially in the China pavilion.
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Kill the mortgage tax deduction?
Some people argue the break distorts the housing market and unfairly helps buyers who can afford more expensive homes.
This post comes from Jim Wang at partner blog Bargaineering.
I promised you that we'd discuss Planet Money's "6 policies economists love (and politicians hate)." Let's talk about the first one: eliminating the mortgage tax deduction.
Here's how Planet Money presents the idea, part of "the common-sense, no-nonsense Planet Money economic plan -- backed by economists of all stripes, but probably toxic to any candidate that might endorse it":
Eliminate the mortgage tax deduction, which lets homeowners deduct the interest they pay on their mortgages. Gone. After all, big houses get bigger tax breaks, driving up prices for everyone. Why distort the housing market and subsidize people buying expensive houses?
I agree and here are my three reasons why.
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Second, how many people consider the deduction when buying a home? You probably look at your income and try to qualify for a loan. How many buyers adjust their withholding after they buy a house because they know they will claim the deduction? Very few, I suspect.
It's not part of the buying decision. Rather, the deduction results in a tax break, disbursed as a tax refund the following year. That money is then doled out to whatever the recipient's existing needs or wants are.
Third, the deduction is a government subsidy that increases home prices. Just as the Fed's quantitative easing and loose monetary policy have resulted in lower interest rates -- which increases home prices -- the mortgage deduction is fiscal policy that boosts home prices and rents.
What do you think? Time to scrap the deduction?
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I love these ideas that aren't well thought out.
Used to be we could decduct ALL loan interest dollars but that ended in the seventies, the talk then was of failed car dealers and loss of sales in furnishings etc. Did slow for awhile then the next generation that never had the deduct came to play and it slowly ebbed a little back but it never reached the levels of credit and bank incomes of the sixties/seventies. Want to cripple a little more of the economy, it won't be a permanent result but it will still hurt if those that can make the deduction have it no longer. We are speaking of those that have enough money to buy and support tax bases, they slow spending and the taxes must be made up elsewhere just as in the tobacco sales ebbs debacle we currently see, the windfall there was to pay for medical expenses but as taxes raise spending drops and the two balance at the same point still
Using basic math, this will never happen. For any home over $100,000 the owners take the deduction. The effective cost of your mortgage goes down by your interest rate - your tax rate. So without this, your mortgage would effectively go up 20-30% for most middle class Americans. Therefore prices would suffer equally, in the middle of a horrible time for housing. I just won't happen.
To be honest, charitable giving is a better target. The benefit of giving is for the same people (who itemize deductions). Your effective cost to give is less the higher tax bracket you are in (say you give $100 and you are in the 25% bracket...it cost you $75 to give rather than the person in the 35% bracket who paid $65). So - assuming we have to all pay the same amount of taxes collectively - that pushes the tax burden down to people in lower tax brackets *shrug*
this is SUCH a 1%er mentality - those people who are independently wealthy that can afford to buy a house with cash in the first place. what incentives are there to the other 99% of the population to buy a home if this is rescinded, other than resale value of the property? why would ANYONE agree to a 30 year mortgage to buy, say, a $200,000 house that ultimately ends up costing them $600,000 because of interest on that mortgage? no one would buy a house - it would be MUCH cheaper in the long run just to rent an apartment. talk about Ivory Tower thinking.
Jim Wang,
Where is the data to support , "big houses get bigger tax breaks, driving up prices for everyone."?
Eliminating this tax break will send the economy into a tailspin. Don't you think that the more money spent paying mortgages, etc. means the less money to buy goods and one of the reasons the economy is taking longer to recover while the banks recovered just fine after the bailout? The banks are dragging the heels in helping homeowners while accepting cash offers for the homes (once foreclosed) of 50% of the mortgage. Isn't this why if the mortgages were refinanced faster in these fed programs, people would have more discretionary income which would lead to higher consumer confidence and therefore more spending which would drive up demand for goods, jobs, etc. you know the cycle that drives the economy? I know this is simplified but what is your train of thought as well as the economists?
The author probably rents...
This is an idea that will never fly, just keep reading the comments before...it's political suicide for anyone even talking about it. It flys against the fabric of the 'American Dream', whether that is something real or not, it's still a dream to many. I've purchased six primary residences in my life, and each and every time I absolutely considered the tax consequences in my purchase decision.
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