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Trump Winery
100 Grand Cru Drive
Charlottesville, VA 22902 | map
Website: Visit my website »
Services: Ceremony, Reception
Maximum capacity: 200
Hands-down THE. BEST. VENUE. EVER. Picture-perfect scenery (stunning!), gorgeous barn and patio, and an awesome event coordinator make this venue top-notch. Trump will always have a special place in both my husband and my heart. Patrick, the event coordinator, made me feel like I was the only bride on his agenda (and I know this wasn't true). Emails were answered promptly, questions about the area as well as accommodations for my wedding party at the Tasting Room across the street were taken care of, and the most special touch was receiving a personalized bottle of champagne a month after our wedding. LOVE this place! THANK YOU TRUMP for giving me the wedding of my dreams!!
Wedding: 07/03/2014
Services Used: Rehearsal Dinner Location, Ceremony & Reception Venue
We loved Trump Winery for our wedding reception. It was amazing to have some many options for our venue: outdoors, indoors, in the vineyard, by the lake. Our photographs by the willow tree were stunning. The landscape was beautiful. Patrick was super helpful in answering all my questions as the day approached. They allowed us to come by and see the venue multiple times. They recommended some fantastic vendors, and did I mention that the wine was terrific. All of my guests raved about how fantastic Trump Winery was and how fitting it was for our wedding. We will remember our wedding day forever.
Wedding: 06/07/2014
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
The first time I saw Trump Winery I momentarily blacked out. Seriously, it's THAT beautiful. I went there on a whim after touring other Charlottesville wineries all day and instantly knew that's where I would get married.
Since Trump is relatively new, a wonderful perk is that a friend, or friend of friend, hasn't had their wedding there. In addition, the venue is separate from the tasting room, so you get exclusivity and no lurking wine tasters. The setting is exquisite- serene and romantic. A rustic venue with a touch of elegance.
I chose to do the barn / pavilion for my wedding and wouldn't have changed a thing. It was honestly one of the best days of my life! Patrick, the wedding coordinator, is great to work with and was very responsive to questions / willing to give suggestions. I cannot say enough how happy I was with Trump.
Wedding: 05/24/2014
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
we were married at trump winery on april 5, and had a FANTASTIC experience. we worked mostly with patrick, and also with katie on our actual wedding day, and there was nothing they would not do to help us and no detail to small to remember. the venue itself was LOVELY. we opted for a smaller wedding (85) so we could get married in the chapel, which was like a storybook. so many of our guests raved about how classy the venue was, how lovely it looked, and what a wonderful time they had. we just got our wedding photos back and i can't stop looking at them and smiling at how beautiful and magical it was. i would highly recommend trump winery without hesitation as an unforgettable wedding venue.
Wedding: 04/05/2014
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
My experience with Trump Winery was absolutely amazing!! I chose the Barn for my reception venue and we had our ceremony outdoors in front of the gorgeous lake. Trump only allows one event per day so our wedding was completely private which was very important to us! The primary wedding venues (the Barn and the Pavilion) are away from the tasting room of the winery which adds a very special and beautiful atmosphere to such a wonderful day. The Barn itself is fantastic and has a very beautiful and spacious bridal suite. I primarily worked with Patrick and he was very responsive and happily answered my questions. He was always flexible and his professionalism was outstanding!! While planning our wedding, we visited many wineries throughout Charlottesville. Trump Winery is by far the best wedding venue!! We could not have had a more perfect wedding!
Wedding: 10/19/2013
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
Gorgeous venue and the Event Coordinator Patrick was wonderful! Event space is completely separate from the tasting room. Perfect place for a wedding :)
Wedding: 10/13/2013
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
Private User 6 Reviews
Trump was a beautiful setting for our wedding, and the service was absolutely professional and top notch. They were accommodating towards us using non-preferred vendors. Response time was very quick. Day of service was top notch as well.
We did our shortly after the restoration of many of their buildings, and all the event spaces are in excellent conditions with top-notch support for the vendors as well. We had some showers day of, and the transition from outdoor to indoor went seamlessly.
Couldn't have asked for a better venue, would do it again. Would also enthusiastically recommend to others.
Wedding: 1+ year ago
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
Private User 1 Reviews
We were so lucky to have found Trump Winery. It took a lot for us to consider the venue (given our political leanings), but once we saw the venue, we knew we had hit the jackpot. The vineyard, willow tree and pond make for a surreal and beautiful outdoor setting - exactly what we were looking for.
Unfortunately, a tropical storm leading into the wedding had alternative plans. While we had been excited by the prospect of an all-outdoor wedding, we ended up loving the indoor location for the ceremony (and were still able to squeeze a little of the reception outside). The "barn" is not quite as rustic on the inside as it looks outside, but the end of it was a perfect location for a ceremony of ~100 people with beautiful natural light and a view to all of our favorite outdoor sites mentioned above. The facilities are great for getting ready, particularly for the bride. There is also a really cute chapel with amazing views of the vineyard if that better suits your needs.
The staff was wonderful throughout the planning process, totally flexible in helping us cultivate the exact experience we wanted. Sarah Elizabeth was a tremendous help before and on the day of, and we were so pleasantly surprised to receive a bottle of champagne with our names and wedding date once we returned home after the wedding. She helped take care of all the details, working seamlessly with our wedding planner and other vendors. Couldn't ask for a nicer person to help us get what we needed without pressuring us into anything we didn't want.
Overall, I'd highly recommend this location, especially if you're looking for an outdoor location, knowing that the backup "rain plan" is just as beautiful.
Wedding: 1+ year ago
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
Trump is an absolutely gorgeous site, and we are so glad we chose it. The scenery is magnificent, and we were so thrilled to have our wedding ceremony under the willow by the pond with the majesty of the vines in the background. The barn is also splendid and makes for an excellent rain site. Although we were lucky enough not to need to use the barn for the ceremony, the excellent rain location is one of the main reasons we chose Trump instead of some other Charlottesville wineries that also offer breathtaking views. The barn also serves as a wonderful spot for cocktail hour, and having 2 patios was clutch. The Pavilion, where we hosted our reception, is also a great space with a beautiful chandelier over the dance floor (although I wish the floor were hardwood or a more neutral carpet -- the patterned carpet is a bit dated-looking and busy, though there are enough other focal points that it isn't a major issue).
Additionally, the bridal suite in the barn is gorgeous and a great place to get ready, and all of the restrooms in the spaces are very classy with marble countertops.
We did have some confusion regarding the kitchen. At some point our caterer indicated that tenting would be necessary because the kitchens are not sufficient. However, to our knowledge, the caterer did not use a tent and the food seemed fine. But I recommend that future brides check carefully with their caterers to make sure they don't have any hugely expensive last-minute surprises like we almost did.
We initially dealt with Sarah Elizabeth, but a few weeks before our wedding, Patrick took over as Events Coordinator. When we got the email so close before our wedding, we were a bit worried, but Patrick did a good job of answering our questions and making us feel comfortable. And both Sarah Elizabeth and Patrick were great about answering our many questions in a timely fashion and even allowing us to visit the spaces multiple times as we tried to figure out various details.
Wedding: 09/15/2013
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
Outstanding support from the whole team at Trump...especially Sarah Elizabeth Schmidt and Brock Fewell. As with any large event, there were some challenges, but Sarah and Brock helped us to overcome them and ensure the wedding and the reception were a success.
Wedding: 06/01/2013
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
Trump Winery was my first choice for my wedding and I was thrilled when they were still available 4 months away from the wedding. Sarah was very responsive during the planning and answered every question I had. I visited the site a few times and if she couldn't be there she made sure someone was there to show us around. And she was very gracious and enthusiastic each time we were there. Everything was perfect and stress free the day of the wedding. The venue itself is absolutely gorgeous. Most of our guests were from out of state and they were amazed at how beautiful Trump is. I couldn't have asked for a more perfect venue.
Wedding: 05/25/2013
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
I could not have imagined a more beautiful site for our wedding, and all of our guests felt the same way. All staff was extremely responsive, professional and dedicated to making our wedding day the most amazing day of our lives, and it was! I would recommend this site to anyone, but make sure you have a bad weather back up plan. We were very fortunate that the weather was absolutely perfect on our wedding day, but we had a back up plan in case it wasn't. Parking, getting up to the venue, etc was very complex logistically, but the staff made it easy and helped us work through the details! Without the dedicated staff a lot of our plans would not have been possible.
Wedding: 09/20/2008
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
The ceremony location behind the chapel was by far the most gorgeous place to have a wedding in Charlottesville. It was an added cost to use this space, but it was worth every cent to have the rolling Kluge vineyards as the backdrop for our ceremony!
The reception ballroom was a great size for our 150 guests. The only thing that I did not like about the venue was the antler chandelier and and sconces. They were a little too rustic for my taste, but I think with the right details, we were able to overcome their rustic style.
There was a change of event management during the planning of our wedding, so sometimes it was hard to get in touch with someone. However, everything settled down by the time of our wedding and the Kluge staff were very helpful.
Wedding: 10/10/2009
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
greysea 6 Reviews
The folks at Kluge are super friendly and seemed to really care to help us have a wonderful wedding. There were some issues that were out of their hands (site coordinator left, and they were in the process of hiring a new person up until the last week before our wedding, so we didn't really have a contact person). That might also have led to some misinformation as to how many tables/chairs they had in their facility, which forced us to change our rentals at the last minute, but Kluge kindly comped us some sparkling wine to make up for it. The venue is just gorgeous and we couldn't be happier with celebrating our wedding in a place of such beauty and peace!
Wedding: 09/19/2009
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
Kluge Estate was an absolutely beautiful venue for both our ceremony and our reception. We actually won the site fee free at the bridal expo they hosted this year, but it is would have been well worth the price. The venue and grounds are gorgeous and make for the perfect place for a wedding. They were as flexible as they could be, seeing that they had another, previously scheduled, wedding the day after ours.
Wedding: 07/31/2009
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
allison 6 Reviews
Amazing location, scenic views, the security is amazing! The event planning staff leave a lot to be desired! For the brand the customer service is inferior and underwhelming.
Wedding: 10/06/2012
Services Used: Ceremony & Reception Venue
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The architecture world has a new laureate, and he builds in cardboard. Japan's Shigeru Ban was named this week as the winner of the Pritzker Prize, an annual award that is often called architecture's Nobel – and his win sends a clear and timely message. Social change, sustainability and improving the lives of the many: This is what matters now to the world of architecture. With Ban's Pritzker, the global design elite is marking that shift.Take a Tour of Pritzker Winner Shigeru Ban's Paper Tube Structures [more inside]
Based on the Japanese horror novel series by Aya Nishitani, this one's about a student computer genius, who's also the reincarnation of an ancient Japanese deity, who uses his giant clunky 80s mainframe to summon up some horrifying devils. This involves some not-bad animation of a well-endowed teacher's frilly brassiere heaving up and down as she becomes the conduit for horrifying monsters from another dimension to invade our world. Then giant piles of red goop start crushing students and a big blue hairy devil named Loki fights our student computer genius hero, who fights back with his reincarnated girlfriend and his magic sword and his pet devil animal throughout several alternate universes.let's anime presents: The Top Ten Least essential OVA (anime) of the 80s. [more inside]
I had discovered the Animage comics version of Nausicaa, which provided my entry into the world of Japanese comics--a world which was to cause me to devote my life to bringing it to all English-speaking people.Toren Smith, a brilliant editor and translator and one of Japanese comics' first and greatest advocates in the English-speaking world, is dead. [more inside]
Smilingly excluded here in Japan, politely stigmatised, I can from my angle attempt only objectivity, since my subjective self will not fit the space I am allotted . . . how fortunate I am to occupy this niche with its lateral view. In America I would be denied this place. I would live on the flat surface of a plain. In Japan, from where I am sitting, the light falls just right – I can see the peaks and valleys, the crags and crevasses.
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Consisting of a hole dug into the ground, 2.7 metres deep and 2.2 metres in diameter, with the excavated earth compacted into a cylinder of exactly the same dimensions, Phase — Mother Earth was instrumental in the early development of work by the Mono-ha artist group, and has been considered a landmark work in Japanese postwar art history.More about Mono-ha inside. [more inside]

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tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-334733822014-09-20T05:41:11.464-07:00Pravin SatputeInternationalization EngineerPravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-17984351252043636942014-09-18T01:50:00.001-07:002014-09-18T01:50:02.521-07:00Lohit Tami 2.91.0 now available for testing
Done with the release of Lohit Tamil 2.91.0 with the improvements planned under Lohit2 project.

Following are highlights:

Rewritten all Open type tables with supporting taml and tml2 tags.

Renamed all the glyphs by following AGL syntax.

Open type tables are available in .fea file and this time it is compiled with AFDKO.

Reusing glyphs by "COPY REFERENCE"

Added GRID FITTING table and auto-hinting by fontforge. (Need to use ttfautohint but we need Latin support to do that)

Tested with Harfbuzz NG and Uniscribe (W8) (Need to test on WinXp yet)

Auto test module available with test files. (Please help me to add more test cases.)

This release now support characters required for minority orthographies. For more details visit bugzilla

Stopped using deprecated ligature for SRII. See bugzilla for more information.
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-54619048040583633432014-09-17T07:58:00.000-07:002014-09-17T07:58:00.792-07:00Compiling Lohit fonts feature file with Adobe Font Development Kit
This first came to notice with issue "OTM error #13". Everything was working perfectly with fontforge, creating feature file and importing feature file back :)

But certainly above issue open up number of issues with this process. Font designers were not able to import .fea file due to this issue.

Thanks to Dave and Frank for pointing to issue and directing me towards Adobe Font Development Kit (AFDKO). Adobe is the one created specification for .fea file and provided nice tools to compile it. Most of the information already available AT http://www.adobe.com/devnet/opentype/afdko/topic_overview.html

 This blog is specifically to update how i am using AFDKO in Lohit project.

Steps:
1. Write open type tables for Lohit fonts in Fontforge.
2. Export .fea file
3. Generate .ttf by importing .fea file to it using following commands.
4. makeotf -f Lohit-Tamil.ttf -ff Lohit-Tamil.fea

It fails with error but it generates unix Type1 font required for makeotfexe.

What errors :)

 makeotf command pass following arguments to makeotfexe

 "makeotfexe "-f" "Lohit-Tamil.ttf.tmp" "-o" "Lohit-Tamil.ttf.temp_cff" -ff "Lohit-Tamil.fea" -ga -gf "Lohit-Tamil.ttf.temp.GOADB" -mf "FontMenuNameDB" -shw"

In above argument "-ga -gf "Lohit-Tamil.ttf.temp.GOADB" are not required but somehow automatically gets added by makeotf.

But makeotf done one good job of converting source font 'Lohit-Tamil.ttf' to temporary Unix Type1 font file 'Lohit-Tamil.ttf.tmp'

5. run makeotfexe removing problem cuasing arguments.
 makeotfexe "-f" "Lohit-Tamil.ttf.tmp" "-o" "Lohit.ttf" -ff "Lohit-Tamil.fea" -mf "FontMenuNameDB" -shw

And here get you Lohit.ttf build by adding .fea file with AFDKO.

Hope so it will help to some others as well.

I specifically found this very useful for finding issues in Lohit-Devanagari.fea files.
Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-34624149596306524372014-09-16T03:53:00.001-07:002014-09-16T06:57:27.222-07:00Lohit Tamil in Unicode charts
This is news to me as well :)

 Just came to know from comment that Lohit Tamil is used in Unicode charts from 7.0 onwards. I did quick comparison with old Tamil chart and 7.0 and yes that is Lohit !!

Kudos to Shriramana for making this happen with proposal. I remember we were talking about this last year and due to OFL license of Lohit it is easy to use it in Unicode charts without any permission.

This add more responsibility to make sure Lohit Tamil follows and keep glyphs consistent in future version. I am sure with strong community we can achieve it.

 I have been always proposing Unicode for using opensource fonts in there charts. Unicode definitely spending some money to make fonts for these charts, so why not to release these charts under opensource license?

 Presently charts only serve the purpose of reference and even after release of particular version even for single character users need to wait for other fonts to sync with latest Unicode version. If Unicode release latest version of charts with fonts as well, one can just quickly install those fonts. These fonts can be used in all OS due to liberal license, many things can happen...

 Second part that is faced specifically in complex script, is reference for rendering rules. Yeah, this can add additional overhead to Unicode but i strongly feel it can help further to have standardization in complex script rendering.

 Anyway we are already trying for this with Lohit2 project, hopefully other script fonts project will also start this kind of initiative and in long term font designers will be free from worry of rules for complex script rendering.

 Again glad to see this is happening !!

Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-86942184181484411322014-09-11T00:25:00.000-07:002014-09-11T00:41:38.997-07:00"Devanagari script behaviour for Hindi" standardization meeting AT Delhi on 10th Sep2014
 DIT is working on this project with CDAC and other stakeholder almost from 2+ years. I am one of the committee member of this working group and making sure it will actually benefit target audience.
We have invested earlier time on what should be the structure of this document and what things must be included in this documents.
 Also we had excellent debate with language scholars on what is valid combination in Hindi language and what is not. How particular combination should get displayed. We made one significant decision saying we will not say anything is invalid, since there is possibility of inclusion of words from other language to Hindi and end use must be able to type it.
 Number of things happened over the time from 1.3.1 version to latest 1.4.4 and finally we are very closer to have final release of this document.

 Highlights of this Draft:
 1. Target audience is ICT stakeholders.
 2. Platform owner interested in supporting particular language in his product will get complete information from locale, sorting, backspace, delete, rendering etc from single document. One can also say this document is simply including standards around Hindi language at one place. Those are Unicode, CLDR and language related standards.
 3. For Hindi draft reference is used from book "देवनागरी लिपि तथा हिंदी वर्तनी का मानकीकरण" Central Hindi Directorate"

 Yesterday we quickly gone through draft to make sure conjuncts are represented properly in document. Hindi mostly uses half form of base characters unlike complete conjuncts get form in Marathi language.

 Draft is still open [1] for comments and feedback. Once Hindi will get finalized same process will be repeated for other language and all these Draft will get authenticated from BIS as a standards. For other languages DIT will first prepare draft and in later stage talk with state governments for Feedback. Next one will be Marathi since most of the things are already ready for Marathi languages.

 I hope this will help to community over the time.

1. http://www.tdil-dc.in/index.php?option=com_vertical&parentid=79&lang=en
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-47490115898910395032014-08-27T00:09:00.002-07:002014-08-27T00:09:41.199-07:00Lohit2: Improvement plans for Lohit-Tamil

 In last phase we did excellent improvements in Devanagari, Gujarati, Gurumukhi and Malayalam with Lohit2 projects. Bengali is already done i need to test it for completeness then i can do the release of same soon.

 Now remaining are Kannada, Oriya, Tamil and Telugu. We are moving ahead and started working on Tamil development now.

 Improvements we are planning to do are as follows:

Renaming glyphs as per AGL.

Rewriting Open type rules following 'taml' and "tml2" [1]

Create testing file which covers most of the combinations.

Testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe.

Auto testing module.

Feature file compiled with AFDKO. (Adobe fonts development kit for Open Type) [2]

Follow Tamil script standards. Unicode.

 We have already started development on lohit2 git [3]

 I need help specifically for following items.

Creating test file with adding important combinations.

Identifying standards around Tamil script, i did not found other than Unicode yet.

 If one dont know about lohit2 project, do read blog [4]

 1. https://www.microsoft.com/typography/OpenTypeDev/tamil/intro.htm#appendix
 2. https://github.com/pravins/lohit2/issues/13
 3. https://github.com/pravins/lohit2/

4. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/08/project-creating-standard-and-reusable.html

Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-72076265957577500192014-08-11T07:46:00.002-07:002014-08-11T07:46:57.961-07:00#flocktofedora 7th and 8th August AT Prague, Czech Republic and me !!
 If you missed my earlier blog, read it here

 First talk of the 7th morning for me was "From Schedule to (awesome)". The important thing we should note is EOL bug closing. Almost 4 to 5 thousands bugs get auto closed during EOL. Yes, Reporter'ss do get notifications regarding closing of bugs but i think developers should take active involvement and make sure any relevant bug should not get closed without fix.

 Next talk from "Tuan Anh Truong" on "Improving Ambassadors Mentor Program", he mentioned number of issues from Ambassadors program including he does not get replys from some of his ideas and again APAC budget was not used fully and this time it get reduced. He specifically said almost 30 Ambassadors from India but no one is active. I had discussion with him later on and promised that at least i will do some contribution.

 Keynote was nice, it is recorded and available on [1]

 During break i had nice conversation with Mattias and Christian about improving language support in Fedora and happy with there positive response, if time permits will definitely start drafting plan for this.

 After that we had some offline meeting on planning for Fedora 22.

 Attended last session of the day that is "Fedora.next.next: Planning for Fedora 22". This session where we had open house type discussion and taken mostly inputs from most of the attendees. We noted down positive, negative things in Fedora. what we can do for Fedora 22. It was long session but very fruitful session.

 Later we had boat party. It was nice party, i specifically loved the food :)

 3rd day we had talk from Jens on "Fedora i18n: Past, Present and Future". I really liked the way he covered i18n changes over the last almost 10 years. One of the most informative talk on i18n after long time. Video for it available on [2]

 After this session we had big discussion with Carlos of glibc. We specifically talked glibc Unicode support, Sorting issues and synchronising data with CLDR. We did some rough planning for future development. Most probably it will be proposed as a feature for next releases of glibc. Me, Mike, Anish and Jens were involved in this discussion.

 Lunch was very good on 3rd day, it was bit spicy. I liked it :) Not even used spices, i specifically brought from India.

 Fedmsg workshop was very informative for people interesting in building app on Fedora messaging stuff. Ralph Bead given nice tips for doing it. If you still not there join #fedora-fedmsg on Freenode and see how it tracks each change in Fedora.

 Last workshop i attended was from Parag and Haikel. The workshop is specifically memorable since 2 FPC, 9 package sponsors were present there. !!

 Third day we got some time in the evening and done some shopping. Its awesome to walk on Prague's road. Did not attended Dance party planned on 3rd day.

 As i written in earlier blog as well, so many things happen so do check #flocktofedora for more information.

 Ohh i missed to write, we took GROUP PHOTO on 3rd day. Jared Smith Rocks !!! Original photo available AT [3]

 My earlier blog on First day is available AT [4]

 Will add photos in my FB and tagged it with Fedora

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzGEBJLlUIc
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WGL9hFcY_w
3. https://jsmith.fedorapeople.org/Flock2014/
Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-41602977847599282662014-08-08T07:04:00.001-07:002014-08-08T07:04:23.317-07:00My first day of FLOCK 2014 at Prague, Czech Republic
 Actually i dont like international travel due to involvement of troublesome VISA process, long travel time and all immigration kind of stuff. This time i decided to attend Fedora conference since it almost 7+ years with Fedora and only one conference that was FudCon in Pune 2011. On the other hand number of things are changing in Fedora specifically with Fedora.Next and wanted to meet most of Fedora star contributor face to face. :)

 Arrived on 5th morning to Prague so it gave me good time to get rest and get ready for the first day of flock.

 This flock is organized very nicely with the understanding of number of contributors those are not able to make to conference and we have provided live stream facility and also recording off all the talks. Live stream is available on youtube at [1]

 Keynote was excellent, it was very motivating for contributors with the information about how EU government understand the importance of open source and using it in most of the government places and also contributing to open source. Its recording available at [2]

 After keynote immediately my presentation was scheduled [3], got a nice audience. Recording for my presentation is available at [4].

 Basically i talked on four things, why fons are important, not much happening in Fedora for fonts. I proposed one fonts portal named open source fonts world for gathering all opensource fonts available in different distros. Presenting fonts in better way, more categorized way and prepare some analysis of what is present and what is not. I have done some work earlier and alpha is available at [5]. Feel free to ping me if you are interested in contributing to it. Or if any more ideas..

 I must say there are lots of interesting talk in flock and some are happening parallel, so missed some good talks.

 I attended "Where's Wayland" from Matthias Clasen and yes wayland in Gnome 3.12 :)

 Lunch was nice, though place is 5min walk from conference venue but that is good, Prague is best city for walking. !! Lunch time was bit more than what i expected that is 2 hrs but i think it is good from contributors networking consideration.

 After lunch i attended "Fedora workstation" talk from Christian F.K Schaller and really impressed with the plans for Fedora workstation. One of the point which he mentioned which i hope i understood correctly is taking good input from Fedora marketing team and proceeding as per strategy. With my marketing specialization i am sure this is right strategy as far as we do not understand our target market properly adding new feature will not help much to us. Though its always difficult to get open source community work as per marketing strategy ;)

 Workstation talk recorded available at [6], must watch !!

 Then next was Anish and Mike talked on Predictive text input method (ibus-typing-booster), one nice point came up during question and answer is how can we have prediction during anaconda processing. Yeah that is important for speedy installation. Most of the information for ibus-typing-booster is available AT [7]

 for 4pm to 4.45pm session i took break since i was very tired and had some offline conversations with attendees.

 I attended "Fedora Ambassadors: State of the Union" [8] session from Jiří Eischmann. Understood two topic regarding number of Ambassadors are inactive from long time. APAC did not able to use there whole budget so budget got less in current FY. I do not remember any Fedora 20 release party in India this time. So yeah, people interested in Fedora and want to celebrate Fedora success, want to spread word do come up, we need you. I will definitely do some contribution to Ambassador program this year. We have only one mentor from India that is Kushal. I really like Fedora student University representative program idea, hoping that plan will get into production soon.

 Last talk from Christoph Wickert on "Advocating Fedora.next" was one of the excellent talk and it was housefull. If anyone still not understood Fedora.Next and want some more food for Advocating Fedora.next must watch this talk at [9]

 So had nice and fruitful first day @ flock 2014.

 We had pub party at the end of day and contributors enjoyed lot in it. Competition of tables for consuming highest beer was interesting and Praha-1 rockes with over 56ltr of beer. :-o

 I am sure there are many more things happened than my blog, so do go through other blogs and tweets tagged with #flocktofedora for getting glimpse of it.

 Cheers !!

 Note: I started writing this blog on first day but due to packed day, not able to complete it and publishing it on Day 3 :)

1. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQIXiF6fxPCtHw_XwHFq6nA
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBpXpnQKjIs&list=UUQIXiF6fxPCtHw_XwHFq6nA
3. http://t.co/Rpo2Hhgn0k
4. https://t.co/4DqJAcdDKF
5. http://osfw-i18n.rhcloud.com/
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYtJZBgOrKw&list=UUQIXiF6fxPCtHw_XwHFq6nA
7. http://typingbooster.org/
8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iv2G_u3xKY&list=UUQIXiF6fxPCtHw_XwHFq6nA
9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2O1bMT5a5Y&list=UUQIXiF6fxPCtHw_XwHFq6nA
Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-51716524173022712382014-08-03T02:29:00.001-07:002014-08-03T02:29:44.322-07:00All is set for attending Flock 2014 conference !!
 Almost 2 months, when i started planning to attend flock-2014 [1] conference. Had number of hurdle including talk selection, sponsorship for Travel, then VISA issues. Now just 3 days to go for flock and happy that everything is perfectly set for attending conference. I will start my journey tomorrow from India.

 Thanks to Fedora for providing sponsorship for Travel and Accommodation. Specially thanks to Ruth for helping in booking flight tickets. I am going to talk on "Better presentation of Fonts in Fedora". [2] Excited to talk on this interesting topic and have get together with numerous Fedora contributors.

 Schedule of Flock is excellent with added some Fun items.

 Looking forward to meet all attendees in Prague :)

1. http://flocktofedora.com/
2. http://flock2014.sched.org/event/821969dcb62bf1efc76c78f0db6ef44f?iframe=no
Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-75109758264146825432014-05-28T05:34:00.000-07:002014-05-28T05:34:10.573-07:00Interesting dilemma of Devanagari script fonts
I am sure after reading this post all font developers of well know Devanagari script fonts will start looking at there fonts again and start thinking there font is for which language?

Either they have developed font for Devanagari script or is it font for some specific language or it is simply a mess ?

As most of you know Devanagari script is widely used for number of languages. Major languages in this list are Hindi, Marathi, Nepali, Konkani, Sanskrit, Maithili, Kashmiri and Sindhi and some more languages.

Each language has some specific requirements from Devanagari script as follows.

 Characters requirement from Devanagari script block:
 Kashmiri, Marathi, Sindhi and Sanskrit has specific characters defined in Unicode Devanagari code page[1]. This is bit easy to identify, since Unicode has mentioned it clearly for codepoints.

 Ligatures/Conjuncts requirement from Devanagari script:
 This one is bit tricky and one must go through each language standard documents from Governments or standardization organizations. I would like to mention some important differences here.

 1. Locale specific shapes for Unicode characters

Different shapes of same characters required in particular language. Few examples of these are in Marathi "ल" (U+0932) and "श" (U+0936) are different than Unicode code block characters, same way Nepali language also has few different shapes for numerals. (Refer Lohit fonts for more information [2])

 2. Different behaviour of conjuncts across language.

 This one is really painful, since there are not 3-4 but lots of conjuncts characters are different in widely used languages like Hindi and Marathi. Hindi language mostly prefers horizontal ligature (i.e. simply half form of characters) while language like Marathi, Sanskrit requires ligature form of conjunct which is used to be stacked.

After considering above points:
when you see, download or use any Devanagari font, you will definitely start thinking this font is for which language exactly?
Font for Hindi language with horizontal ligatures?
Font for Marathi language with Stacked ligature?
Pan Devanagari fonts supporting all language?
Even though its pan devanagari fonts, what it renders in en_US/en_IN locale?

 Lohit2 is one of the best example of how to handle this effectively. Still it needs some fixes for default behaviour of Lohit Devanagari font. Since Devanagari is widely used for Hindi language, i am in fever of making default behaviour of Lohit Devanagari to match with Hindi language and for other languages one should either download Lohit fonts for specific language (lohit-marathi, lohit-nepali) or select appropriate locale while using Lohit Devanagari.

 Still question arises if default behaviour matches Hindi then, why it is called Devanagari, but i think answer is since it supporting other languages as well it is called Lohit Devanagari.

1. http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0900.pdf
2. https://github.com/pravins/lohit

Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-36334420102045788462014-03-10T23:36:00.000-07:002014-03-10T23:36:09.354-07:00Lohit2: Next one is Lohit Assamese and Bengali fonts improvement
 In last six month we have completed Devanagari (Marathi and Nepali), Gujarati, Gurmukhi and Malayalam under lohit2 project [1]. We have done significant improvement in these fonts not only from technical perspective but also from standards perspective. I am confident enough to say Lohit follows all standards around fonts and Indian languages and scripts guidelines.

 I attended typoday.in [2] conference in last weekend and talked with people around on lohit2. Happy to see number of people in fonts domain are aware regarding Lohit fonts. Few people even used Lohit fonts during the workshop to demonstrate some points. Few people proposed enhancement for adding more ligature, so we all are going good :)

 This is time to do improvements in Lohit Assamese and Bengali. Followings are improvements we are looking for..

Removing not required ligatures.

Rewriting efficient open type tables.

Support to the "beng" and "bng2" open type script tags.

Building fonts through feature file (.fea)

Following AGL specification syntax.

Testing on Harfbuzz NG, Uniscribe(W8).

Automated Testing Tool utilization

 One of the important task prior to development is to identify guidelines, specifications for Assamese and Bengali script. We do have TDIL documents available and will see if there is any other. With these improvements i am sure Lohit Assamese and Bengali can become standard reference font for upcoming Bengali fonts project.

 Need help from Assamese and Bengali language expert. I know few already and will ping them for more input during the developments. Development activity is going to happen in lohit2 [3] git.

 1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/<wbr></wbr>2013/08/project-creating-<wbr></wbr>standard-and-reusable.html
 2. http://typoday.in/
 3. https://github.com/pravins/<wbr></wbr>lohit2

Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-72349610462769796152014-02-11T22:47:00.002-08:002014-02-11T22:47:50.130-08:00Review of Kannada fonts released by Karnataka Government
I just did a quick review of fonts released by Karnataka Government [a]. This is not from rendering perspective but from technical aspects of the fonts.

All fonts has following issues:

1. Font is specified as a Serif in PFM family. Fonts is sans-serif still style is incorrectly given in true type fonts.

2. Version should not contain wording like "Initial Beta release".
 Presently given versions are like:- "1.000 2013 initial Beta release"
 Please refer [b] for version guidelines.

3. Font Embedding Permissions should be more relax.
 Presently it is only Editable embedding. It should Installable fonts so even receiver of document can use it.
 Refer font embedding permissions [c]

4. Incorrect License url
http://shabdalipi.com/ of TTF names not working

5. Some glyphs does not follows AGL guidelines
 Font has some glyph names starts with "_".
 Example: _uni0C96_uni0CCD there is also glyph name uni0C96_uni0CCD. When two glyphs has same component one should be with name .alternate or .alt
 In above case it should be
 uni0C96_uni0CCD and uni0C96_uni0CCD.alt
 Please refer: [d]
 "If multiple glyphs in a font represent the same character in the Unicode standard, such as "A" and "A.swash," they can be differentiated by using the same base name with different suffixes. The suffix (the part of glyph name that follows the first period) does not participate in the computation of a character sequence. It can be used by font designers to indicate special characteristics of the glyph. The suffix may contain periods or any other permitted characters. For example, small cap "A" could thus be named "uni0041.sc" or "A.sc.""

6. This is not a bug but font contains 1478 glyphs.
I am sure one can make same quality font with less number of glyphs by using Open type GSUB and GPOS tables.

7. Normal and Bold version of font should have same family name.

Following are the fonts in release tarball
San-Serif

Kar Chandrashekhara Kambara.ttf

Kar Girish Karnad.ttf (Bold:- Looks like bold version of Kar Chandrashekhara Kambara.ttf )

Kar Puthina.ttf

Kar Gopalakrishna Adiga.ttf (Bold: Looks like bold version of Puthina)

Kar Puchamthe.ttf

Kar U R Ananthamurthy.ttf

Kar K S Narasimhaswamy.ttf (Bold)

Kar Maasthi.ttf (Bold)

Kar Kuvempu.ttf (Bold)

Kar Shivarama Karantha.ttf (Bold)

Kar Vi Kru Gokak.ttf (Bold)

Serif

Kar Da Raa Bendre.ttf

 Above mentioned bugs should be fix before the purchase and release of the fonts from Government. One should test rendering of these fonts with latest stable version of Harfbuzz-NG included in most of the key projects including Libreoffice, Gnome, Android and so on. These rendering issues must be fixed before the release of the fonts.

a. http://www.karnataka.gov.in/kcit/Downloads/Kannada%20and%20Culture%20Department-Unicode%20Softwares.zip
b. http://semver.org/
c. http://www.adobe.com/products/type/font-licensing/font-embedding-permissions.html
d. http://sourceforge.net/adobe/aglfn/wiki/AGL%20Specification/

Tags: #kannada, #fonts, #agl, #harfbuzz, #opentype
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-37435732121572223392014-01-30T05:25:00.003-08:002014-01-30T05:25:55.958-08:00Announcing alpha release of lohit-malayalam 2.91.0 from lohit2 project
 Glad to announce alpha release of lohit-malayalam 2.91.0 from lohit2 project[1]. As we planned earlier [2] indeed this is lightest Malayalam modern script font around with just 214 glyphs and 11 open type table.

 We have done following improvements in Alpha version over the 2.5.4 release.

Reduced number of glyphs nearly by 25%

Open type Looksup are reduced by 45%

Supporting mlm2 and mlym specifications.

Testing on Harfbuzz NG and Uniscribe (W8)

Followed AGL syntax with User friendly glyph names.

Improved GASP table (grid-fitting)

TTF build from feature file.

 Updated lohit project page [3] for download details. Source tarball link [4], TTF tarball link [5] and webfonts format for Lohit is at [6].

 I would like to say thanks to Ani for her help in testing stuff, Shriramana for reporting important bugs from standard perspective and Sneha for making this happen :)

 As this is alpha release need your help for testing it and making it more perfect. I am still doubtful that we might have missed some important exceptions of Malayalam script so looking forward to fix them in coming releases.

 By next week this release will be available in Fedora 20 and Rawhide.

 1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/08/project-creating-standard-and-reusable.html
 2. https://www.redhat.com/archives/lohit-devel-list/2013-December/msg00005.html
 3. https://fedorahosted.org/lohit
 4. https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-malayalam-2.91.0.tar.gz
 5. https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-malayalam-ttf-2.91.0.tar.gz
 6. https://fedorahosted.org/releases/l/o/lohit/lohit-malayalam-web-2.91.0.tar.gz
 7. https://github.com/pravins/lohit/issues/new
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-8424139276334990052013-12-26T01:46:00.000-08:002013-12-26T01:46:20.491-08:00Malayalam moderns script and Lohit Mayalam
As you know we started working on Lohit Mayalam this month under the lohit2 project with planning number of improvement from standards, efficiency and effectiveness purpose. [1]

Sneha in between blogged regarding how we started working on Lohit Malayalam. [2]

After getting initial basic work done we got stuck on standard perspective. How the ligatures should be and what is attestation for same.

Earlier Lohit Malayalam was behaving bit different, cross checked with some modern script Malayalam fonts around like NotoSans, RaghuMalayalam. Gone through utrrs but still attestation was lacking.

Finally after bit searching remembered Govt. of India has Vishwabharat(विश्वभारत) [3] series where they write regarding each script of India.

 And we got good documentation for Malayalam modern orthography. We will refer to this and cross check with things around before the Alpha release of lohit-malayalam.

1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/12/lohit2-lohit-malayalam-development-plans.html
2. http://snehakore.blogspot.in/2013/12/the-way-we-proceed-with-malayalam.html
3. http://tdil.mit.gov.in/pdf/Vishwabharat/tdil-april-2002.zip
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-79269418267649227192013-12-12T21:55:00.001-08:002013-12-12T21:55:13.217-08:00Lohit2: Lohit Malayalam development plans

 I am sure now everyone should be happy with Lohit Devanagari and Lohit
Gujarati releases. While looking back i see we have achieved objectives
planned [1] during the start of project. Its time to move towards other
scripts. Though Bengali, Gurumukhi, Tamil looks low hanging fruits we
want to fix bit more challenging scripts as well.

 We started thinking on what we can do in Lohit Malayalam in last
month. After couple of weeks of analyisis we found there is good scope
for improvement in Lohit Malayalam.

 Basic improvements as we done in Devanagari and Gujarati
 1. Following AGL. [2]
 2. Supporting points provided in Unicode chapter 9 for Malayalam script.
 3. Feature file separate for flexibility and reusability.
 4. Complete cleanup of existing Open type tables
 5. Supporting both "mlym" and "mlm2" open type specifications.
 6. Thorough testing with Harfbuzz and Uniscribe (WinXp, W7 and W8)

 Other fonts specific improvement.
 7. Presently Malayalam font has 281 shapes out of that we figure out
71 (+5/6) shapes are irrelevant. We can achieve these shapes with glyph
positioning and intelligent glyph substitution rules without affecting
fonts aesthetics and quality.
 8. We have some pending bugs on bugzilla [3] as well

 As we planned earlier making Lohit fonts most efficient and
effective is our primary objective. [1]

 Bit ambitious to say right now but i want make Lohit as a lightest
Malayalam modern script fonts.

 Sneha has already started working on lohit2 [4] git repo for
Malayalam font development.

 If you are looking any other suggestions or improvement in Lohit,
feel free to propose here.

1.
http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/08/project-creating-standard-and-reusable.html
2. https://sourceforge.net/adobe/aglfn/wiki/AGL%20Specification/
3.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&classification=Fedora&component=lohit-malayalam-fonts&list_id=2010178&product=Fedora&query_format=advanced
4. https://github.com/pravins/lohit2

Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-30255257955761152752013-11-19T05:13:00.001-08:002013-11-19T05:13:34.476-08:00Points on Open source language summit 2013 second day
As my first tweet in the morning said, this is lohitise and ibus-typing-booster day

its typing booster and getting lohit-se day !! #languagesummitpune #itb #lohitfonts #fuelproject
— Pravin Satpute (@prravins) November 19, 2013
 we indeed had great day around this project.

Lohit-ising fonts:

Demonstrated lohit-ise concept with Samyak Devanagari fonts due to time restriction we only modified the single combination of Samyak Devanagari but i hope that was sufficient for understanding concept.

I hope Sneha [1] will do further blogging with nice images on how we actually done this demonstration. Steps are already available on my earlier blog.[2]

Looking forward this to make good impact on some of the available fonts around. But i think still people will take time understanding usefulness of this. So we need to provide clear details on what things got improved and how it will help in longterm after lohit-ising fonts.

Ibus typing booster [3]
This project is around now for 2+ years and number of feature developed considering users requirement.
Anish started nicely with the need behind this project with me presenting on feature of typing booster.

Thanks a lot to Vasudev again for trying installing ibus-typing-booster on Debian. I am hoping he liked the project and will give some more inputs and contribute more.

I tried last two time test day of itb and this is first time when all participants appreciated project and said the need of more intense testing of this may be for couple of hours. This is really motivating.

I am setting up project page for it.

1. http://snehakore.blogspot.in/
2. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/11/how-to-lohit-ise-open-type-fonts-not.html
3. https://fedorahosted.org/ibus-typing-booster
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-63951724476108949802013-11-19T04:27:00.001-08:002013-11-19T04:27:35.252-08:00How to Lohit-ise open type fonts not updated or new development
These are steps we followed in session for lohitising open type fonts.

1. git clone https://github.com/pravins/lohit
2. cd (devanagari or malayalam etc as per your fonts script requirement)
3. cp "yourfont.ttf" .
4. yourfont.ttf open with fontforge and save as a yourfont.sfd
5. open yourfonts .sfd and update glyphs names as per lohit fonts.
6. python ../scripts/apply_featurefile.py yourfont.sfd Lohit-

 Things to note here apply_featurefile.py only import gsub of lohit project, it will keep gpos tables intact.

There are number of benefits of lohitising open type fonts, i will write separate blog on it with proper implementation example.
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-91953820656622715962013-11-18T03:39:00.001-08:002013-11-18T03:39:38.481-08:00First day of language summit and things achieved.
It was good day considering the plans i did before the start of summit 2013. [1]
Lohit2 Development session:

 Started with explaining basic idea behind Lohit2 project.

Next we had excellent discussion again on Adobe Glyph Names. I am sure i made concept very clear but still there are some plus and minuses with AGL. In the next conference around Typography i am surely would love to talk in details regarding it.

Aravinda [2] explained his blog wrote on lohit2 kannada and gubbi and navilu font development.

I loved his idea for having script for generating AGL based names from user friendly name.

In long term if we can have such script useful for building .sfd to .ttf and automatically all fonts build with fontforge will become AGL compliant.

Sneha explained on steps followed to develop Devanagaria ang Gujarati. These steps are very helpful as we are going to follow same for all other script fonts. I hope sneha would like to blog about same with more details.

Santhosh exaplined Gsoc project for automatically testing fonts rendering.

Earlier i had different perspective on this project. Since We are already following test suite in Harfbuzz developed by Behdad.

Here first step is different. i.e. font developer suppose to create correct combination standard file. Then we will pass unicode text to hb-shape and compate o/p with out standard file.

This project is font specific on the other hand Harfbuzz is not font specific but assumes fonts work perfect on Uniscribe (This assumption is correct since font used for testing were validated and heavily tested on Uniscribe)

Done some plans for future development and done.

I liked some of the attendees shown interest for how they can resuse Lohit2 open type table. going to explain it in tomorrow session with implementing concept on Samyak fonts, so stay tuned :)

Font packaging session:
This session was good, as i think first time Fedora and Debian package were in front and discussing how we can improve. It was good to have me, Parag, Karthik and VasudevK here.

Thanks VasudevK [8] for creating track request [3] for packing ibus-typing-booster in Debain. I am sure after learning about this project more Debian users will request for having itb in Debian.

As per planned me and Parag packaged SakalMarathi [4], tharlon-fonts[5], phetsarath-fonts [6], tuladha-jejeg-fonts [7]

 Looking forward to attend Behdad's session on Harfbuzz via Google Hangout.

1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/11/things-i-am-expecting-from-open-source.html
2. https://aravindavk.in/blog/improving-kannada-fonts/
3. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729851
4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031569
5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031587
6. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031588
7. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1031603
8. https://twitter.com/copyninja_
Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-56289050204977986332013-11-17T20:59:00.001-08:002013-11-17T20:59:42.675-08:00Things i am expecting from the open source lang summit 2013
Hi,

 Almost start of the open source lang summit 2013. I think this is good time to list down things i am expecting from this summit.

 If you had chance to gone through my earlier blog [1] on the sprints plan for this summit, you might be already know the activities i was planning.

 Happy that all my sprint plans are got accepted and excited to work on it.

Fonts

Day 2
 1. (Sprint 1 )
- Lohit2
 - Hacking Telugu and Kannada Open type table
Telugu does not looks possible but i am optimistic for Lohit Kannada2, lets see if we can have at least alpha ready...

 - Testing of Released Devanagari and Gujarati
Devanagari Beta is out last week and Gujarati Alpha is yesterday itself. Hoping we will have some more thorough testing for same.

Day 2
(Sprint 2 )
Just idea presently on how we can use lohit2 reusable tables in long run
- Lohit-ise (Will give small 10min presentation on this)
 - Work on Devanagari and Gujarati fonts

 First of all i need to explain the concept clearly. Once that is done and there will be no doubts, we will try to implement it on Samyak fonts and if contributors are interested will help to implement it on other fonts.

Day 1
(Sprint 3 )
Time to update font packages in major OS distribution. One can learn packaging through this sprints. Expecting experts from different distribution packaging team will be there to help.
- Packaging AnjaliOldLipi, Meera Tamil and SakalMarathi for Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu

I am sure we will have at least srpm ready for these packages for Fedora. Hoping debian packagers attending here will also able to push up .deb packages.

Input Method

(Sprint 1)

ibus-typing-booster
 - Packaging for Debian and Ubuntu

 Now sure about this yet. :( So looking around Debian and Ubuntu packagers.
 Porting ibus-typing-booster to fcitx is not required as fcitx following little bit different architecture. Thanks for fcitx main developer for explaination.

 (Sprint 3)

ibus-typing-booster
Presentation and testing event.

I am excited for this. I am damn sure attending will have so much to take out after this sprint.

(Sprint 4)
Plan is to create layout images for inscript2 layout.
- Keyboard Layout Images
 - Porting mapper scripts to support inscript2 layouts
 - Update Fedora wiki images of keyboard layout

Parag is going to lead this session. Looking forward we will have something handy and helpful in this session.

 Welcome to all attendis.

Please ignore typos and grammar mistake ;)

1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/10/open-source-language-summit-nov-2013-in.html
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-58363876909520967982013-11-07T23:35:00.005-08:002013-11-08T04:47:00.314-08:00Lohit Devanagari Beta release test file screenshot !!

Lohit 2 Devanagari Beta is out already[1]. This is screenshot during testing

Testing Environment :
Fedora 19, Application gedit
gnome-shell-3.8.4-2.fc19.x86_64
harfbuzz-0.9.23-1.fc20.x86_64
lohit-devanagari-fonts-2.92.0-1.fc19.noarch
Source file: https://raw.github.com/pravins/lohit/master/devanagari/test-devanagari.txt

Same environment as above
Source file: http://pravins.fedorapeople.org/test-file-devanagari.txt

1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/lohit-devel-list/2013-November/msg00000.html

Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-89056941969305927132013-10-31T05:55:00.003-07:002013-10-31T05:55:46.744-07:00Lohit2 surely helping identifying critical bugs and improve rendering stack for long time.
lohit-devanagari is almost ready for beta release after resolving number of issues reported at git [4]

I am happy while testing lohit2 devanagari we are not only fixing issues from fonts side but we found interesting bugs from application side as well.

Earlier it was from Harfbuzz NG side. [1] This bug sometime very difficult to identify since even when expected ligature does not come it looks like there is ligature. During thorough testing with hb-shape and by looking at glyph names we identified yes this is problem. Then we tested with other fonts around and no one was giving expected results.
Thanks to Behdad for quickly fixing this it made life easy for doing Beta release.

Now few days back we identified one more bug from Libreoffice [2] This is also tricky one. Surprisingly this was working well with NotoSans Devanagari so one might think it is font issue as it work well with other fonts.
But again with thorough analysis we found that changing glyph class of first-i-matra to base-class doesn't solve the issue but create other problem for forming reph ligatures. [5]

This time survivor is Khaled, good to see he committed the fix today itself. Though my testing is remainign but he resolved the root cause i think.

From Fedora side, as Fedora is the always leader for quick fixes from upstream. Caolan again proved that by providing build [3] for fix today itself. Thats simply great !!!

I am sure over the time we will done with Lohit2. We will definitely identified major issues in rendering stack of opensource and will have the fixes also ready with excellent people around. I am reoommending community member to participate in lohit2 testing since this will help for long time to have perfect fonts and Open type layout shapers around.

Though this making bit delay in lohit2 releases but i think perfection comes first :)

1. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69266
2. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71080
3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1025201
4. https://github.com/pravins/lohit/issues
5. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70968#c9
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-50176908721390248602013-10-08T23:00:00.000-07:002013-10-08T23:00:35.628-07:00Open Source Language Summit Nov 2013 in Pune (Sprint ideas)
Hi All,

 I am sure people who were part of this summit last time must be excited to attend 2013 Open Source Language Summit as well.
 As a planning we (Parag and Anish) discussed possible hackthon's we can do in this summit and we listed down following items:

Language Support:
 Identifying availability of basic components for 287 languages. (Unicode, Locale, Fonts, IME and rendering support) Mostly comparing with Wikipedia and Fedora language support.

Fonts:
Lohit2 project for "Creating standard and reusable Open type tables for Indian script font" [1] has already took pace with the release of Lohit Devanagari Alpha and start of work on Gujarati and Kannada. Its humble goal of creating language rendering tables so that font can render perfect across platform makes it priority item for summit. Following are things we are planning.
(Sprint 1 )
- Lohit2
 - Hacking Telugu and Kannada Open type tables
 - Testing of Released Devanagari and Gujarati

(Sprint 2 )
Just idea presently on how we can use lohit2 reusable tables in long run
- Lohit-ise (Will give small 10min presentation on this)
 - Work on Devanagari and Gujarati fonts

(Sprint 3 )
Time to update font packages in major OS distribution. One can learn packaging through this sprints. Expecting experts from different distribution packaging team will be there to help.
- Packaging AnjaliOldLipi, Meera Tamil and SakalMarathi for Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu

Input Method
Ibus typing booster [3] is predictive text input method supporting 41 languages for in opensource world. Number of people using it and given positive feedback on it. During last few conference i got request from active opensource users to make it available on Debian and Ubuntu as well. Planning this activity in this summit.
(Sprint 1)
- ibus-typing-booster
 - Packaging for Debian and Ubuntu

(Sprint 2)
Not sure how much change will be need to port ibus-typing-booster to fcitx framework. Will discuss and see what we can do for this. Help from users and Developers of fcitx is welcome from all perspectives :)
- ibus-typing-booster
 - Porting to fcitx

(Sprint 3)
During last one year number of features has been added to it. Presentation and testing event for same.
- ibus-typing-booster
 - Presentation on ibus-typing-booster features
 - Testing for Indian IME's support

(Sprint 4)
Plan is to create layout images for inscript2 layout.
- Keyboard Layout Images
 - Porting mapper scripts to support inscript2 layouts
 - Update Fedora wiki images of keyboard layout

Rendering Engines
(Sprint 1)
This bug was identified during the lohit2 development. Unfortunately Behdad will not able to attend this summit, so will try to debug and see if we can provide patch to fix this.
- harfbuzz
 - hacking on "glyph moving across syllable boundries" bug [2]

1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/08/project-creating-standard-and-reusable.html
2. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69266
3. https://fedorahosted.org/ibus-typing-booster/
Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-20335475903298919472013-09-29T11:58:00.000-07:002013-09-29T11:58:12.417-07:00Workshop from W3C-India on "HTML 5 tour in India" 25th Sept 2013 Pune
 Cant call it exactly workshop, it was more like demonstrating power of HTML5 and explaining concepts and increasing awareness so more and more people start building powerful websites based on HTML5.

 Workshop in Pune city was one of the part of whole HTML5 tour in India. W3C India's plan was to cover major regions of India and spread the thought everywhere. W3C guys covered different topics at different cities (See program for more details [1]).

 Was lucky that after long time got a chance to meet Raymond Doctor, we discussed on some projects and planned to meet soon to discuss more on those.

 First time got a chance to hear CDAC DG Prof. Rajat Moona [2] and liked his motivation speech of explaining how technologies evolved during the time.

 After his talk In pre-lunch session Michael smith [2] calmly explained W3C initiative and motivatoin behind each initiative. Basic motivation is solving the problems. He expressed his concern about though W3C is developing protocols faster but due to dependence on web browsers it does not reach to masses in timely manner.

 I really appreciate Michael for the way he answered each question from audience in very detailed way.

 Post lunch session was mainly on webRTC. I am really impressed with the demonstration of the webRTC and i am sure it is going to be one of the threat to video conferencing application. Some of Machael's session on webRTC are already available on youtube.

 Mr. Mahesh Kulkarni explained about the importance of epub3 guidelines w.r.t. complexities of Indian scripts.

 I have done some tweets during the workshop, one can find it from [4].

 Workshop was housefull. There were number of students present. Due to small size halls some audience was attending workshop on projectors. I think W3C should really improve this and next time plan for auditorium with more capacity.

 Since most of the people only attended one of the part of whole HTML5 tour, i requested w3cindia provide videos of sessions happened in other cities. I think it will be made available on w3cindia website.

1. http://www.w3cindia.in/HTML5-tour-2013/program.html (Still not understanding why this link is not opening in Firefox sometime)
2. http://www.cdac.in/html/message/dg-profile.aspx
3. http://people.w3.org/mike//
4. https://twitter.com/search?q=%40prravins%20%23html5&src=typd

Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-83761589363286888292013-09-19T00:11:00.001-07:002013-09-19T00:11:33.405-07:00Before the alpha release of Lohit Devanagari from Lohit2 project
 I am hoping now most of the contributors around are aware regarding the lohit2 project. Before the Alpha release of Lohit Devanagari i think it is important to go through once again goals we planned for this project[1].

 Goals:

  1. Cleaning Lohit Open type tables.
 Highlights are as below

We rewritten all GSUB rules from scratch.

New rules are supporting both deva and dev2 script tag

Done testing on Harfbuzz as well with Uniscribe and its giving expected results.

Kept GPOS tables intact.

Effectiveness and efficiency [2] (sfd file size is down by 28K and Binary file side is down by 4K)

 Found one bug w.r.t harfbuzz [3] and looking forward to get it resolved soon. Presently it is in know issue list.

 By Beta we will have some more improvement on this.

  2. Reusable Open type tables.
 We got two important suggestions on this line, so below are suggestions and action taken on it.
  1st suggestion
 To have feature file separate than shapes .sfd file for easy re-usability of OT rules.

Thanks to AravindaK, he has already done some work on that line[4], so just using those stuff. I have forked this gitrepo and doing some improvement in it. Once done will request Aravinda to merge with his repo.

  2nd suggestion
 To follow AGL[5] and to have readable glyph naming. We were also thinking from this perspective.

 This has became a bit complex glyphlist.txt [6] suggest names like "kadeva" or uni0915. But we dont want to follow uni0915 as it is not very readable considering our re-usability goals.

{0915 (kadeva) + 094D (viramadeva) + 0937 (ssadeva)} following this create chances of glyph name string more than 31 characters limit.

So present plan is follow above "kadeva_viramadeva_ssadeva" as much as possible and if it goes above 31 characters we will discard "deva" part from glyphname.

  3. Following of existing standards/guidelines
 Dont know how many of you aware regarding "Devanagari Script Behaviour For Hindi"[7] Draft, so its basically guideline for Font developers. I have one blog pending on this. Though this is draft mode we are trying to follow this, since it is very informative and prepared after consulting to language experts.

 This is where we upto, if anything more needed do provide me your feedback. Also need to decide on release version, i think some version with -alpha will work.

 1. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/08/project-creating-standard-and-reusable.html
 2. Effective means it should work on all supported platform perfectly and efficient means compact and clear rule
 3. https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69266
 4. https://github.com/aravindavk/
 5. https://sourceforge.net/adobe/aglfn/wiki/AGL%20Specification/
 6. http://kaz.dl.sourceforge.net/project/aglfn.adobe/glyphlist.txt
 7. http://tdil-dc.in/tdildcTemp/articles/75443Consolidated%20Feedback%20&%20Observations%20on%20Draft%20Devnagari%20Script%20Behaviour%20Ver%201.4.8_June_13.pdf
Pravin Satputehttp://email@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-40508351173540475992013-09-10T08:58:00.001-07:002013-09-10T21:37:33.467-07:00One of the happenning event FUEL GILT conference 6-7 Sept 2013 @ Pune, India
 I would like to start this blogpost with saying one of the successful conference happened during recent times in GILT industry in India. One can get idea from the power packed program schedule[1] with highly weighted name like Mr. Sam Pitroda.

 One of the very useful things was govt. was involved in this conference. Govt's positive approach to get things done in opensource way was very motivating to opensource contributors. Hoping this will go further ahead and we will get major contributions from government in each opensource project like FUEL.

 Another point was most of the opensource contributors from well known organizations were present. It was really great to see all of them. Having Anivar from SMC in conference was very useful. He given very useful comments in most of the sessions.

 I am sure attendees now have clear understanding of complexities of Localization industry and hurricane task done by the communities over the years.

 Though first day Keynote speaker was not able to attend, Satish Mohan and Mahesh Kulkarni very nicely motivated the audience and educated them regarding FUEL efforts.

 I liked Zanata session from Ani Peter. Features available in Zanata project are really good. Specifically liked the feature of allowing two translator chat while working on same project and decide on words choice. Question from audience regarding having localize instance of Zanata was really well worth.

 Rajat Gupta session on "Towards generation of translation memories from varied file formats from distributed/unorganized data" created interest in audience regarding how can they use there different format localize data to create translation memory.

 Talk by Ms. Sushma Chitta on "Application of Simplified Technical English in globalization of the content." was interesting. The guidelines of Simplified Technical English (STE) was nice. I am not aware regarding any such open standard.

 Rahul Bhalerao Ex-Red Hatter explained the importants of understanding target audience thoroughly before doing translations.

 Good part from the conference perspective was audience was very vocal and attentive.

 It was good meeting Karthik, mostly interacted with him on bugzilla and mailing list. He presented on WMF activities on i18n sides. Also good to Goraji after long time, i remember we worked together for fixing sorting issues in glibc. Looking forward to see some more contributions from him.

 Dinner was good had nice discussion with Mr. Pavanaja U B he told how he started developing open type fonts during 2001. (That time i was doing my first year of engineering ;)). He promised help for Lohit2 Kannada development.

 Had a nice conversation with Omshivaprakash. We were discussing about bug in gnome-shell [2] Tested it today but not able to reproduce same. Was happy to see one more gnome-shell fan. :)

 Arjuna Rao Chavala talk was nice and his interest in improving Indian language uses across communities is impressive. Though English is important as a business language i am sure people will not forget there language. Easy to use basic i18n components are key factors.

 Twitting was good experience in this conference with gang :)

 Second day keynote by Mr. Sam Pitroda was great. He provided information regarding National Translation Mission and also emphasized on point that Machine translation is required to handle huge data.

 Talk by Mr. Guntupalli Karunakar on "Indic fonts: Guidelines and Standardization" was well taken, i am sure Lohit2 [3] will solve number of issues presented by him.

 Anivar explained importants of targeting mobile devices for Indian languages. Lots of work needed to happen in that domain.

 Enjoyed interaction with audience during my talk on IME's evolution. Good part was audience included highly experience localization people and same time there was developers working on i18n components and last but not the least the student/freshers wanted to learn as much as they can. I am sure that audience understood the problem and soon we will have my new proposed IME architecture available everywhere. Lots of expected from me, hoping will try to do it.

 Panel discussion was good. We saw good scope for further development of FUEL. Though at sometime we were loosing direction Ankit did well to keep focus on FUEL only.

 Soon one can get presentations pdf and also videos of talk recording on youtube. I missed Dr. Nagarjuna G during this conference as he is the one who bring me to Indian language computing and opensource.

 I would like to end this blog by thanking Rajesh, Ankit, Chandrakant for organizing such a nice conference. Expecting some more next time :)

1. http://www.fuelproject.org/gilt2013/program
2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005471
3. http://pravin-s.blogspot.in/2013/08/project-creating-standard-and-reusable.html
Pravin Satputehttp://firstname.lastname@example.com:blogger.com,1999:blog-33473382.post-86622152745806728292013-08-22T02:53:00.000-07:002013-08-22T02:53:33.206-07:00Project: Creating standard and reusable Open type tables for Indian script fonts
Background information:

 As most of you know Lohit [1] is one of the widely used and default Open source fonts for most of the Indian languages. It gives perfect rendering irrespective of OTLS (though now it is harfbuzz-ng earlier there were different open type layout shapers icu, pango, qt).

 Earlier due to incompatibility of different open type layout shapers we did number of bug fixes in Lohit fonts which created some redundant gsub tables, even i will say some logically wrong gsub table to get perfect rendering on all OTLS. Also in some of the script fonts like Kannada we have some unnecessary glyphs.

 During this time we got Open Type 1.6 specification (Dev2) and also long awaited Harfbuzz NG [2] project in now working and included in most of the leading project. (Gnome, Libreoffice etc.)

What is goal?

1. Cleaning Lohit Open type tables.

 Basically going to rewrite open type tables for all script fonts present in Lohit as per OT 1.6 specification by following best practices (compact OT tables by using minimum glyphs as much as possible).

 2. Reusable Open type tables.

 Discussed this idea in last year language summit in Pune with Aravinda.

 So basically we have very limited number of fonts for Indian script and i think one of the reason behind that is complexity of creating fonts for Indian language. It requires script, designing/calligraphy and engineering knowledge (OT technology, hinting) and bit other technicalities.

 Providing easy to use, reusable open type stuff will definitely remove some complexities from this. In long term it will help to make font developers life easy.

3. Extension to Open type specification.

 Again this started in Lang summit 2013 with Santhosh. We created initial draft in sumeet (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f8rCjva6AceWuzoOXMTeK24IoyBRUErtRm0Zrvyn0S8/edit#heading=h.c7vik2gjwesj) for this and i think santhosh has moved bit more forward in this.

 Basic motivation behind this was existing open type specification is not providing sufficient information for Indian script and font developer need to create guess work while writing Open type tables. So we want to have one specific standard for Indic scripts.

 So basically we can add and update this standard while rewriting open type tables of Lohit.

Present status of project

 This project is presently available at https://github.com/pravins/lohit2, Presently Sneha [3] is actively working on it. if anyone interested feel free to join.

1. https://fedorahosted.org/lohit
2. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/HarfBuzz/
3. https://github.com/snehakore
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- High Speed Internet Access
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- Cable Ready
- Hardwood Flooring
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Our property is conveniently located near shopping, parks, South Orange Performing Arts Center,Rutgers University and Seton Hall University, very close proximity to NJ Transit South Orange Station.
Our property is conveniently located near shopping, parks, South Orange Performing Arts Center,Rutgers University and Seton Hall University, very close proximity to NJ Transit South Orange Station. The Apartments at 117 Vose Avenue feature studio and one bedroom apartments with heat and hot water included in the rent. Our apartments have modern kitchens and bathrooms, hardwood floors, on-site laundry facilities and off street parking is provided. The Resident Manager is on the premises to handle your maintenance needs, and 24 hour emergency service is also provided. Our community is in very close proximity to NJ Transit trains (South Orange Station) and bus stations which provide an easy commute to New York City. We are conveniently located near shopping and entertainment and just a short distance to Routes 280, 10 and the Garden State Parkway. Once you visit, you will understand why so many residents love to call the Apartments at 117 Vose Avenue, home.
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117 Vose Avenue Resident
Great super, nice apartments, good parking, affordable, and close to train station.
January 31, 2014
117 Vose Avenue Resident
The building is in an ideal location with its proximity to the downtown area as well as a manageable commute t Read Moreo NYC by train. The neighborhood is safe and very comfortable to walk in. The super is very dedicated to her building and her tenants, I could not ask for more from her! Overall I am very happy with my living arrangements.
November 27, 2013
117 Vose Avenue Resident
Convenient location (2-3 min walk to train/restaurants/grocery store), reasonable price, friendly supervisor. Read MoreThe only reason I rated the apartment as "Good" rather than "Excellent" is because my apartment and the interior of the building can use some updates. Overall, a very good apartment for me.
November 27, 2013
117 Vose Avenue Resident
Great on site manager who is very pleasant and helpful. No complaints about the !management. The neighbors a Read Morere quiet; did not have any issues. The apt itself was on the older side and lacks updated amenities but for what it is, the apt is kept in pretty good condition.
January 14, 2014
Keith W.
The manager-in-residence was very friendly and helpful, and the property/apartment was excellently kept; howev Read Moreer, the management group (those that take the rent checks) made the experience much more stressful than was necessary. It is the reason I have rated the overall satisfaction as "average" instead of "excellent". The procedure for sending in rent checks and the 2-month notice fee was unclear and inconsistent, and when they made a mistake they charged me a late fee for their incompetence.
December 1, 2013
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