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The AJC has a big picture story on the cuts to school. It opens with this great set of lines: The state has cut $1 billion from education in just 19 months, inexorably turning the screws on local schools. Turns out that was just practice.
The story is a depressing litany of the proposed cuts to local systems. I am curious. Are there systems that can navigate through this recession without major cuts? (Someone sent me a note that Coweta is in better shape than most.)
Here are some details from the story about how deep and wide the cuts will go in the major metro systems:
The avalanche began when DeKalb County school officials said last month that the system would be short $88 million in its 2011 budget. Since then, so many other shoes have dropped, it's starting to look like a Rack Room out there.
On Thursday, Cobb County schools said their shortfall would approach $100 million. On Friday, Gwinnett County schools gave the same report: $100 million short. Clayton County said it will be nearly $63 million in the hole; and Atlanta, $47 million. Fulton County has said its shortfall could reach $120 million.
DeKalb now says its gap could hit $115 million. Those systems alone are facing total cuts of more than a half-billion dollars.
Each metro school system has a different strain of the same virus, and each will have different ways of treating it.
Some are further along than others in determining — or at least in disclosing — the extent of their financial problems for 2011; all are working on the 2011 budget.
For example, Cherokee County schools haven't set a budget for 2011, but Superintendent Frank Petruzielo said that elementary school arts, music and physical education programs are in the cross-hairs if cuts become necessary.
"If the choice is between cutting first-grade teachers or reducing the scope of programs in art and music and physical education, I don't need to tell you which of those is going on the chopping block," he said.
March 14th, 2010
7:26 pm
Cherokee shouldn't be deciding between first grade teachers and music.art/pe teachers. They should be deciding between fat cat administrators and 1st grade music, art and pe teachers.
The choice is painfully obvious, but school superintendents just don't get it.
March 14th, 2010
7:50 pm
interesting how administrator positions aren't listed as
being on the block.
nor athletic programs.
March 14th, 2010
7:51 pm
School Superintendents don't really care any more than Washington, Atlanta, county commissioners, city councils, school boards … their thoughts …. just don't bother the pork.
March 14th, 2010
7:53 pm
I don't see any way of getting out of this without cuts.
There is too much fat, denial, and politics for this to end sensibily.
and still nobody wishes to discuss alternative ways to raise revenue.
March 14th, 2010
7:54 pm
this has become a massive game of chicken. everybody is counting on the other side to blink.
March 14th, 2010
7:54 pm
Are we once again seeing PAGE and GAE carry the water for the administrative interests that dominate those groups by maintaining silence on cutting the top heavy, bloated bureaucracy that weighs down public school system budgets?
March 14th, 2010
8:03 pm
Fire half the teachers, give the survivors a 20% PAY CUT.
March 14th, 2010
8:06 pm
thanks to Tar & Feathers for illustrating just how far our education system has sunk. when we need serious thinking, we get stupid slogans
March 14th, 2010
8:07 pm
so which half do you wish to cut?
March 14th, 2010
8:16 pm
There's no doubt, all things being equal, taking a teacher out of a classroom negatively affects students. There's plenty of doubt that taking an administrator out of central office damages a student one bit, and it fact might even benefit the student by freeing the teacher from bureaucratic micromanaging and nonsensical paperwork.
No brainer where to look first for cuts.
March 14th, 2010
8:18 pm
We had a much needed workday this past Friday. Part of that time was spent in a faculty meeting looking at a Power Point showing the cuts that will be made to our system, not just this year, but for the next four years! Not a pretty sight. Unless this economy turns around soon, education is in for some rough times. Does anyone think those in Washington DC could have come up with a different way to stimulate the economy? And I am not just talking about for education, but for the entire economy. What they came up with did not work. Time for something else, though at this point, it may be too late.
March 14th, 2010
8:27 pm
Was this really a sentence in the article?
"Those numbers add up to unprecedented badness."
It was, and it illustrates the need for English teachers.
March 14th, 2010
8:46 pm
Grandma is finally revealed to be the Big Bad Wolf. We have been living in a false economy since 1913, when that generation of politicians sold our country out to the bankers, aka: the Federal Reserve. Keynesian economics was designed to promote national debt as a way of life. With the Federal politicians free to borrow money financed on the backs of the next generation, there was no price too great to buy votes. And of course, the privately owned Federal Reserve was only too happy to crank up the fiat money printing press to generate for itself handsome profits from interest on money it didn't own. The ignorant masses of Americans have proved P.T. Barnum correct. Ever since, the President and Congress have played the "Candy Man" and encouraged our addiction to debt. Free lunch? No problem. Free libraries, curriculum, teachers, sports stadiums, swimming pools, golf courses, science labs, theaters, planetariums, nurses, AP courses, field trips, teacher aids, computers, IT professionals, video equipment, ETS testing, cars, country club memberships, pension funds, posh new school buildings, special ed equipment, Lego robots, AV equipment, bus transportation? No problem. Georgia's projected 2012 $3 BILLION DEBT? Well, maybe a slight problem. U.S.A's $12.5 TRILLION DEBT? Ummm…I think its time to move to Singapore…..
March 14th, 2010
9:28 pm
You are right Free Market Educator. I've been trying to get us back to a point of competition. I would like to see people like myself open schools. Parental choice would cause better education, because if the education is not what the parents want, they will take the money somewhere else.
March 14th, 2010
9:44 pm
Educationally speaking, you'd be better off getting rid of the lunch program than dropping PE. The mistake is lumping art and music in with PE. The kids already sit enough during the day.
I guess it's not too hard to tell, up there in redneck Cherokee, that Chip Rogers' kids go to private school.
March 14th, 2010
9:53 pm
We can afford 10 days of the 180 contact days…. Why make our kids and teachers suffer 180 bad days. Let's have the best 170 day year education.
The State of Georgia is broke.
It can't afford to pay for 180 school days. It is 10 day short of money. Why not reduce school by about 10 days?
March 14th, 2010
9:56 pm
FreedomEducation.vox.com is a total cult.
March 14th, 2010
10:05 pm
Teachers need to suck it up and stop complaining. If the school board has to raise class sizes and cut teacher salaries, that's life! I'm retiring in 3 years and they better not cut my pension. I'm hoping to get on with a private school system after retirement with some easy administrative job and get two paychecks every month!!!
March 14th, 2010
10:26 pm
Students move more in my elementary music classroom than they do in PE every day, AND we use creativity and problem solving skills. Wonder how many CEO's played instruments? Research tells us chances are your doctor and your lawyer were members of the band.
March 14th, 2010
10:28 pm
From what I can tell, Coweta is in better shape than most school systems. They are dipping into reserves instead of passing on the three furlough days to teachers. However, even in Coweta I'm sure there will be more cuts. Last year they cut the parapros in the media centers and in elementary P.E. (And there was absolutly no warning that these cuts were coming – no chance to defend the positions.) They also cut many of the school tech positions. They did this last May so it will probably again be May or June before decisions are made public.
March 14th, 2010
10:47 pm
I've looked at the web pages for some of the top private schools in the Atlanta area, including Hebron Academy, The Lovett School, Pace Academy, The Westminster Schools, Wesleyan School, and Woodward Academy. I've noticed some similarities that I think are interesting, and some contrasts with public schools that I also think are interesting.
First, these schools pride themselves on small class sizes. They seem to try to have 16 or fewer students per class at the high school level. Many have student-teacher ratios of 10:1 or less. Meanwhile, those of us in the public schools are told that class sizes don't matter, and they're going to get larger, even though public high schools often have more than 30 students per class now.
Secondly, almost all of these schools include the percentage of faculty with advanced degrees prominently when touting the benefits of their schools. Years of experience and years at the school also seem to be important factors. I don't really understand this, because the General Assembly has been telling public school teachers that those things don't matter and don't impact student achievement.
The private schools seem to think that educating the whole child is important, and in addition to their academic programs, highlight their arts and athletic programs, and sometimes community service. Public schools are supposed to be concentrating on the basics, and all those extras are being cut because they're too expensive and the General Assembly says they are not really important anyway.
At least one of the private schools states that while they want a diverse student body, they aren't really equipped to deal with students who aren't fluent in English, and so will not accept such students. Public schools don't have that luxury, nor do they have the luxury of turning away students with disabilities; if they aren't equipped to deal with such students they must find the means.
Finally, all of these private schools charge in the neighborhood of $20,000 per year (most more, two slightly less) per student at the high school level, and books, fees, and transportation are usually additional costs. The average expenditure per public school student in Georgia, according to DOE figures, is $8,908.78, which includes books and transportation, and people say that public schools are spending entirely too much.
If those in the General Assembly wish to improve the quality of education in Georgia, perhaps they should look at the top-tier private schools and see what those schools do differently. It's possible that if they would enable public schools to be more like "the best schools" there would be less perceived need for vouchers.
March 15th, 2010
12:22 am
Again- one more reason why I am grateful we can send our children to private school. It's about parental choice.
March 15th, 2010
2:18 am
Why aren't more cuts at the top? School systems here suffer from the SAME illness that corporate America suffers from – the fat cats at the top STILL get theirs even while everyone else is cut.
One small difference is that eduation is public money. Will the GA public allow this? Will everyone sit by and shake their head and say, "what a shame?" Or, will people complain loudly enough for the politicans (who, by the way, still get theirs) do something about this?
Each of us, individually, need to STORM the next school board meeting in your area and DEMAND for the top heavy to be cut to the bone BEFORE it impacts our children. Cutting teachers and increasing class sizes should NOT be an answer to anything.
If you sit idle and do nothing, then we can expect the worst.
March 15th, 2010
5:28 am
Fantastic post, Who to Believe!
I am a product of private schools and have taught in public for 15 years. I have to endure behavior problems in addition to the other ones you mentioned (non-English speakers, etc.) I don't ever remember kids in my classes sticking around very long if they go into trouble.
I also don't remember spending 20% of my school week testing, either!
I DO remember hearing that my teachers barely made enough money to get by, though. (Of course some were nuns and brothers…..)
March 15th, 2010
5:52 am
…oh, and did you see anything about parental involvement? I bet if I wrote a check in the neighborhood fo $20K, I'd be involved!!!!!
March 15th, 2010
5:54 am
Took a look at my 5th grade picture, about 25 years ago. 1 teacher, 25 students. Funny how we all managed to do pretty well with a ratio that today's lazy teachers would call impossible.
March 15th, 2010
6:38 am
I remember my classroom of 25 students too, and it did not include students who do not speak English, students who wear flip flops to school and no coat in the winter, students who do not have breakfast, students who cannot behave, and students who read three grades below grade level. That's what my classroom looks like now – with 28 students. I won't bother telling you how much time and money I spend on my job, you wouldn't believe it anyway.
March 15th, 2010
6:59 am
Ladies and Gentlemen:
A point of order:
The State pays next to nothing for all those central office admins and sports programs y'all talk of wanting to cut. Those are, by and large, LOCALLY paid positions/issues.
The vast bulk of State money to local systems is in the form of teacher salaries.
Now, will the LOCALS decide to cut some of those admin positions/sports programs to save some teachers' jobs? That is a LOCAL call – not one made by the General Assembly.
March 15th, 2010
8:24 am
Teaching in FL is worse, thanks. I think I'll tweak it up and send it to my General Assembly members….
March 15th, 2010
8:25 am
Who to beleive-"I've looked at the web pages for some of the top private schools in the Atlanta area, including Hebron Academy, The Lovett School, Pace Academy, The Westminster Schools, Wesleyan School, and Woodward Academy, in all of these private schools charge in the neighborhood of $20,000 per year (most more, two slightly less) per student at the high school level, and books, fees, and transportation are usually additional costs"
Hebron is less than $7,000/yr. That's a lot less than $20k. Then again, it's no Woodward.
March 15th, 2010
8:40 am
Grumpy-Back in the day we had separate classes for LD as well as a class for the students with severe special needs. Yes, they pull the 2 tails of the bell curve out of class for an hour or so each day. However, there are 7 hours in a school day. In a first grade class a teacher can have one student that is still learning the alphabet sitting next to one that is reading Harry Potter. On top of that, include political correctness, less recess, entitlement attitudes,
excessive testing, and more children being diagnosed with mental conditions(bi-polar and depression). Also, let's not forget the fear of some student forgetting his meds. and going on a rampage.
March 15th, 2010
8:52 am
Gwinnett Parent, you're right! I found the wrong Hebron Academy's web page: http://www.hebronacademy.org/admissions/affording/
The one in Maine looks like an excellent school….And the one in Georgia (http://www.hebronlions.org/index.html) also looks like a nice school. I notice that the class sizes are a bit larger than the others, and "HCA does not offer programs for students with special academic or behavioral needs."
March 15th, 2010
9:10 am
I would like to hear superintendents talk of cutting the fat in their own offices before talking of teacher/school program cuts.
March 15th, 2010
9:24 am
Henry has a 45 million shortfall out of a 310 million dollar budget. The BOE has presented at our local high school. we are loosing CO staff, elementary art and music staff, maybe high school orchestra, maintenance staff, social workers, para professionals, 110 classroom positions, technology support staff, 8 furlough days…. it goes on and on.
March 15th, 2010
9:49 am
Gwinnett parent, the kid reading Harry Potter is supposed to sit next to the one learning the alphabet. The teacher is teaching to the lower middle so she has to rely on the Harry Potter reader to teach the other kid his alphabet b/c she has no time to deal with either of them. Plus the only way to close the "achievement gap" is to make the Harry Potter reader waste time teaching the alphabet all day. The Harry Potter reader doesn't progress, the alphabet learner does… the gap closes.
It's easy and cheap.
March 15th, 2010
9:51 am
Currently, our home school is not suffering any cutbacks. In fact, we are INCREASING our spending. Our children continue to enjoy a 1/1 student ratio. We just finished participating in a fine arts festival completely funded by home school parents. It included singing, piano, drama, dance, multimedia, photography, CGI, origami, painting and drawing, and the culinary arts. What a fantastic evening! Most successful home school families practice the art of frugality. Many have no mortgages or car payments. Most tithe to their church and are involved in charitable work. Because of this, there is cash to pay for these so-called extras. Most of the children test in the above average range on the ITBS. I hope some of you with children in the financially strapped government schools will give home schooling a try. The principles of money management laid out in the Bible are relevant and they work!
March 15th, 2010
9:54 am
There is no data whatsoever to indicate that a private school education is better than a public school education. What is taught in the classroom is the same content.
The difference is that for SOME public schools, the culture is not the "normal" upper class white society. While in MOST private schools, that culture does exist because those are the folks that can afford it!
Because of this, there is likely more behavior issues in public schools. Also, another reason is that unlike private schools, public schools cannot just kick out a student from the school. Public schools are required to educate everyone.
If private schools were held to the same standards and requirements as public schools, I wonder which would fair better?
March 15th, 2010
10:01 am
FreeMarketEducator, one year I had 3 unwed mothers in one particular class. All were 16-17 years old, and all were designated as either "slow learners" or "mildly retarded"….how well do you think their children would do if they were homeschooled?
(I'm glad you are happy with homeschooling, and I know some people do it very successfully. It's not the answer for all children.)
March 15th, 2010
10:27 am
@Who to Believe? – comparing the best private schools in the state to the average public school really is akin to comparing Clayton State College to MIT. There are many differences between private schools and public schools; greatest among those differences is that private school children are a self-selected group whose parents who go out of their way to extraordinary lengths to further the education of their child.
However to answer your question of "why do private schools tout a small class size" – the answer is that while research shows that smaller class sizes beyond elementary grades do not affect learning, smaller class sizes in a $20K per year private school does attract more paying customers and make them feel better about the education of their child. Those premier private schools tend to offer a lot of "extras" to attract customers.
March 15th, 2010
10:48 am
Private schools are able to hand pick their students, public schools are available to everyone. There are some awesome public schools in the state of Georgia. There are also some outstanding small private schools that don't charge $20K a year. One of the issues in public school is that they have to meet the needs of the masses. Unfortunately, it's difficult to do in today's society. All special education students should not be mainstreamed. It's unfair to the other students. Students should be grouped homogeneously. I am the paent of child that was always a teacher's helper. He started Pre-K reading and doing simple math. Instead of pushing him ahead, they made him a class tutor. This happened year after year. In the end I decided to put him in a private school that met his needs.
@Reality you are dead on about the data regarding public and private school students. It's about the quality of the students, not the school. This is why public schools in affluent areas have outstanding test scores and those in poor areas do not. There's no real way to close that achievement gap without parental involvement.
March 15th, 2010
10:58 am
Individual choice is what a republic is all about, not the collective good (democracy) which leads to socialism.
March 15th, 2010
11:34 am
Free Market: Just let me say that on behalf of teachers everywhere we are glad you home-school your children. Do you truly believe the things you write or do you just want to elicit a response? I suggest you move away from Fox, quit worshipping at the altar of Limbaugh and join the real world.
March 15th, 2010
11:43 am
Interesting how my comments about Gwinnett 92 million shortfall aren't still on the page????
1. Wasted tens of millions of dollars on a duplication of a state test (GATEWAY)
2. Wasted tens of millions of dollars on a palace (ISC)
3. Waste tens of millions on a BLOATED Central office staff of ineffective former administrators- as the saying goes, "old administrators never die, they just go to central office"
Bet they wouldn't be 92 million in the hole if they had some leadership
March 15th, 2010
11:44 am
There is some good data regarding the public and private school debate. Fortune magazine did an in-depth study regarding academics, acceptance to Ivy League schools, arts, athletics, behavior and more. Their conclusion? They stated, "If you live in the suburbs and you are sending your kids to private school you are probably wasting your money."
Home schooling? I'm sure there are some success stories, but I am much more familiar with the failures. Some neighbors did a successful job with it, but their son once toldme how much he wished he could go to "regular" school. His parents sent him for a while and he said it was "Awesome." They withdrew him because he was getting sent to the principal's office every day. (He didn't know how to act without his mom around)
I cannot imagine how I would have taught my children the beauty of Shakespeare, the deeper applications of calculus, how to draw in 3-D, Latin, the proper footwork for blocking on the offensive line and how to get along with people who come from dozens of other cultures. Thank God my kids got all of that and more in public schools.
March 15th, 2010
12:00 pm
And herein lies the rub:
Although government consistently fails at nearly everything it tries (I'll give it some credit for the whole national parks thing; that was a good move), a completely free and laissez-faire economy comes with certain caveats that must be accepted before implementation. Personally, I lean towards the free economy viewpoint; however, I acknoweledge that there is currently no answer for the problem of children. What do I mean?
It is quite simple. If you put everyone in charge of his or her own education (or, more appropriately, the education of hir or her children), you will inevitably be consigning many children to a life of ignorance, poverty, and death. People who do not value education and who see no reason to push their children to value it will sink even lower in a free market system. Though the quality might be better for some, the depths to which others will sink will be no less than shocking.
The only alternative would be to take the children away, but I don't think I need to tell you what a disasterous road that would be down which to travel–not to mention, who decides such things and who pays for such things?
I agree with Freedom Education: "Individual choice is what a republic is all about, not the collective good (democracy) which leads to socialism."
As a big fan of Ayn Rand, I firmly believe that individual rights trump everything else. There is no collective and their is no singular entity of society–there are only individuals and groups of individuals who work together to support their best interests. But Ayn Rand never addressed the "problem" of children in her philosophical beliefs, probably because she never had any. They remain the X factor.
March 15th, 2010
12:08 pm
Why do we even need public schools? Eliminating the requirement from the Georgia Constitution could save millions of dollars in property tax. It would also end the need for Special Local Option Sales Tax aimed toward education. 50% of the state budget would be eliminated allowing for more funding to flow to other programs. There would no longer be a need for; local school boards, State School Superintendent, state school board, department of education, professional standards committee, governor's office of student achievement, General Assembly committees on education, title 1, free/reduced school lunch programs, CRCT testing, end of course testing, graduation testing and countless other things.
March 15th, 2010
12:13 pm
How are the cuts affecting the smaller systems?
March 15th, 2010
12:18 pm
I don't see APS doing much cutting. They strong-armed the City Council into a 42% increase in the millage rate instead, and have a big slush fund to draw on. I don't see them doing much saving, either – Beverly Hall clearly intends to shove another tax increase down the property owners' throats next year. I think she'll have some problems after being exposed as a cheater.
March 15th, 2010
1:09 pm
End school now…I am sure you were just starting a Swiftian Modest Proposal-type satire. To give me peace of mind, could you finish your entry?
March 15th, 2010
4:46 pm
"There is some good data regarding the public and private school debate. Fortune magazine did an in-depth study regarding academics, acceptance to Ivy League schools, arts, athletics, behavior and more. Their conclusion? They stated, "If you live in the suburbs and you are sending your kids to private school you are probably wasting your money."
How do you know the Fortune Magazine article contained "good data"? On what independent analysis of their methods of research and data collection do you base your opinion? Parents opt out of government schools for different reasons. Can the government schools provide a Christian education? Didn't think so. How about a Muslim or Hebrew one? Only private or home school could provide this. Aren't G.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, and B.H. Obama products of "Ivy League" schools? Why would acceptance to these schools be a parameter of success? As far as the arts, my zoned high school has ONE fine arts teacher for the entire high school, and can only offer Studio art I and II. This school is in the suburbs. My home schooled children excel in the arts; one even has a piece showcased by Origami USA in New York. Our home school cross country team defeated all private schools and won State five years in a row. Good behavior in public schools?????? Can you say Columbine 1 and 2? (a nice suburban high school). How about school laptop peeping Toms? (nice suburban high school). And of course Forbes didn't mention the ghetto public schools. I wonder why? After all, the legal premise for government schools is equal education for all. Why isn't this happening? They've been at it since the late 1800's. Before all states enacted compulsory education laws, Andrew Jackson was the only president to pay off the national debt. After public schooling began nationally, the national debt began to grow and is currently a hockey stick graph. Our national debt is now $12.5 TRILLION! Given that a majority of the population went to government schools, wouldn't you take that as an indicator of UTTER FAILURE? Home school students SAVE the taxpayer money ($10,000 per child/year) and contribute tax dollars to educate others' children. I don't believe I've received your thank you note yet. Government handouts tend to produce ingratitude.


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How Project schedules a project can be difficult to grasp, but once you understand the basics of scheduling, you'll be better able to work with your projects. Project schedules a project from the information you enter about the overall project, the individual work items (called tasks (task: An activity that has a beginning and an end. Project plans are made up of tasks.)) required to complete the project, and, if necessary, the resources (the people, equipment, and materials) needed to complete those tasks.
If anything about your project changes after you create your schedule, you can update the tasks or resources and Project adjusts the schedule for you.
How does Project schedule a project?
How does the project start date affect the schedule?
What are the default settings for calculating the schedule?
How do constraints affect the schedule?
How do deadline dates affect the schedule?
How do calendars affect the schedule?
How do resource assignments drive the schedule?
What is the difference between planned, scheduled, and actual dates?
For each task, you enter durations (duration: The total span of active working time that is required to complete a task. This is generally the amount of working time from the start to finish of a task, as defined by the project and resource calendar.), task dependencies (task dependencies: A relationship between two linked tasks; linked by a dependency between their finish and start dates. There are four kinds of task dependencies: Finish-to-start [FS], Start-to-start [SS], Finish-to-finish [FF], and Start-to-finish [SF].), and constraints (constraint: A restriction set on the start or finish date of a task. You can specify that a task must start on or finish no later than a particular date. Constraints can be flexible [not tied to a specific date] or inflexible [tied to a specific date].). Project then calculates the start date (start date: The date when a task is scheduled to begin. This date is based on the duration, calendars, and constraints of predecessor and successor tasks. A task's start date is also based on its own calendars and constraints.) and finish date (finish date: The date that a task is scheduled to be completed. This date is based on the task's start date, duration, calendars, predecessor dates, task dependencies, and constraints.) for each task.
You can enter resources (resources: The people, equipment, and material that are used to complete tasks in a project.) in your project and then assign them to tasks to indicate which resource is responsible for completing each assignment (assignment: A specific resource that is assigned to a particular task.), and to calculate how many machines are needed or how much of a material resource (material resource: The supplies or other consumable items that are used to complete tasks in a project.) will be consumed.
If you enter resources, task schedules are further refined according to resource work (work: For tasks, the total labor required to complete a task. For assignments, the amount of work to which a resource is assigned. For resources, the total amount of work to which a resource is assigned for all tasks. Work is different from task duration.), units (units: The quantity of a resource assigned to a task. The maximum units is the maximum number of units available for the resource. For example, if you have three plumbers, the maximum units is 300 percent or three plumbers working full-time.), and working times entered on calendars (calendar: The scheduling mechanism that determines working time for resources and tasks. Project uses four types of calendars: the base calendar, project calendar, resource calendar, and task calendar.).
Other elements, such as lead time (lead time: An overlap between tasks that have a dependency. For example, if a task can start when its predecessor is half-finished, you can specify a finish-to-start dependency with a lead time of 50 percent for its successor [has a negative lag value].) and lag time (lag time: A delay between tasks that have a dependency. For example, if you need a two-day delay between the finish of one task and the start of another, you can establish a finish-to-start dependency and specify a two-day lag time [has a positive value].), task types (task type: A characterization of a task based on which aspect of the task is fixed and which aspects are variable. There are three task types: Fixed Units, Fixed Work, and Fixed Duration. The default task type in Project is Fixed Units.), resource availability (availability: Indicates when and how much of a resource's time can be scheduled for assigned work. Availability is determined by project and resource calendars, resource start and finish dates, or the level at which the resource is available for work.), and the driving resource (driving resource: The resource whose assignment to a task determines the finish date of the task.) can affect scheduling, so understanding the effects of these elements can help you maintain and adjust your schedule as needed.
If you enter a start date for the project, by default Project schedules tasks to begin on the project's start date and calculates the project's finish date based on the last task to finish.
As you enter more information about tasks, such as task dependencies, durations, and constraints, Project adjusts the schedule to reflect more accurate dates for tasks.
When you create a new project, you first enter the project's start date. When scheduled from the start date, all tasks start at the project start date unless you specify otherwise.
With no task dependencies or constraints applied, the project's duration is the same as the duration of the longest task. In other words, the project finish date is the same as the longest task's finish date.
Task dependencies, such as the finish-to-start dependency between the first and second tasks (as shown here), can change the project's finish date.
Most projects should be scheduled from a start date. However, scheduling from the finish date can be useful for determining when a project must start if it must finish on a specific date. You can change various task and resource information to see what effect it has on the project's start date and determine the optimum project start date.
You must schedule a project from a start date or from a finish date; it cannot be scheduled from both start and finish dates. You pick which date you want to use (normally a start date), and Project schedules the other date (normally a finish date) for you based on the information you enter into the project plan.
Project calculates the duration of tasks based on the definitions of the duration units on the Calendar tab of the Options dialog box (Tools menu). Just like a monthly calendar that you use outside Project, the year begins in January and each week begins on Sunday or Monday.
By default, when Project calculates duration units, one day equals 8 hours, one week equals 40 hours, and one month equals 20 working days. If you enter start and finish dates for tasks and don't enter start and finish times, Project uses 8:00 A.M. as the default start time and 5:00 P.M. as the default end time.
When you need to control the start or finish date of a task, you can add a constraint to the task. Flexible constraints (flexible constraint: A constraint that is flexible and does not tie a task to a single date. Flexible constraints are As Soon As Possible, As Late As Possible, Finish No Earlier Than, Finish No Later Than, Start No Earlier Than, and Start No Later Than.) work with task dependencies to make a task occur as soon or as late as the task dependencies will allow. For example, a task with an As Soon As Possible (ASAP) constraint and a finish-to-start dependency will be scheduled as soon as the predecessor task finishes.
Constraints with moderate scheduling flexibility will restrict tasks from starting or finishing before or after a date you choose. For example, a task with a Start No Earlier Than (SNET) constraint for June 15 and a finish-to-start dependency to another task can begin June 15 if its predecessor is finished by June 15 (or later if its predecessor finishes after June 15), but it can't be scheduled before June 15.
With the default finish-to-start task dependency and an ASAP constraint applied to these tasks, the successor task (the second one) is scheduled to begin as soon as the predecessor task (the first one) is scheduled to finish.
With a SNET constraint applied, the successor task cannot begin before the constraint date, even if (as shown here) the predecessor task is completed before the constraint date.
Inflexible constraints (inflexible constraint: A constraint that is inflexible because it ties a task to a date. The inflexible constraints are Must Finish On and Must Start On.) override any task dependencies and restrict tasks to the dates you specify. For example, a task with a Must Start On (MSO) constraint for September 30 and a finish-to-start dependency to another task will always be scheduled for September 30 no matter whether its predecessor finishes early or late.
If a task constrained to a date has a predecessor (predecessor: A task that must start or finish before another task can start or finish.) that finishes too late for the successor (successor: A task that cannot start or finish until another task starts or finishes.) to begin on the date specified in the constraint, negative Slack (slack: The amount of time that a task can slip before it affects another task or the project's finish date. Free slack is how much a task can slip before it delays another task. Total slack is how much a task can slip before it delays the project.) can occur.
Note To specify that constrained tasks with negative slack are scheduled according to their task dependencies rather than the constraint dates, on the Tools menu, click Options, and then click the Schedule tab. Clear the Tasks will always honor their constraint dates check box.
Deadline (deadline: A target date indicating when you want a task to be completed. If the deadline date passes and the task is not completed, Project displays an indicator.) dates don't usually affect task scheduling. Deadline dates are used to indicate a target date you don't want to miss, without requiring you to set a task constraint that could affect scheduling if predecessor tasks change. A task with a deadline is scheduled just like any other task, but when a task finishes after its deadline, Project displays a task indicator (indicators: Small icons representing information for a task or resource that are displayed in the Indicators field. The Indicators field is located to the right of the ID field and appears in a number of tables.) notifying you that the task missed its deadline.
Deadlines can affect total slack (total slack: The amount of time that the finish date of a task can be delayed without delaying the finish date of the project.) on tasks. If you enter a deadline date before the end of the task's total slack, total slack will be recalculated using the deadline date rather than the task's late finish date. The task becomes critical if the total slack reaches zero.
You can set deadlines for summary tasks (summary task: A task that is made up of subtasks and summarizes those subtasks. Use outlining to create summary tasks. Project automatically determines summary task information [such as duration and cost] by using information from the subtasks.) as well as individual tasks. If the summary task's deadline conflicts with any of the subtasks, the deadline indicator signifies a missed deadline among the subtasks.
Note Deadline dates can affect how tasks are scheduled if you set a deadline date on a task with an As Late As Possible (ALAP) constraint. The task is scheduled to finish on the deadline date, though the task could still finish after its deadline if its predecessors slipped.
Calendars determine the standard working time and nonworking time, such as weekends and holidays, for the project. They are used to determine resource availability, how resources assigned to tasks are scheduled, and how tasks themselves are scheduled. Project and task calendars are used in scheduling tasks, and if resources are assigned to tasks, resource calendars are used as well.
The calendars used in Project are:
If you don't assign resources to tasks in your project, Project calculates the schedule using task durations, task dependencies, constraints, and project and task calendar (task calendar: The base calendar that you can apply to individual tasks to control their scheduling, usually independent of the project calendar or any assigned resources' calendars. By default, all tasks use the project calendar.) information. If you do assign resources, the tasks are also scheduled according to resources' calendars and assignment units (assignment units: The percentage of a work resource's time, or units, that the resource is assigned to a task.).
An assignment is the association of a specific task with a specific resource responsible for completing the task. More than one resource can be assigned to a task. Both work resources and material resources can be assigned to tasks.
Unlike work resources (work resource: People and equipment resources that perform work to accomplish a task. Work resources consume time [hours or days] to accomplish tasks.), assigning material resources (material resource: The supplies or other consumable items that are used to complete tasks in a project.) to a task does not affect task scheduling.
For example, in your project you have a task named "Develop specifications." You also have an engineering resource, Sean. If you assign Sean to the Develop specifications task, this intersection of the task and resource is the assignment. The scheduling of this task depends on Sean's resource calendar and assignment units, in addition to task information such as duration, dependencies, constraints, and calendars.
In addition to scheduling according to task information, after you assign resources to the tasks in your project, Project has resource and assignment information to use in calculating schedule information, including:
After you have entered all pertinent project information and are ready to begin the project, you can set a baseline plan (baseline plan: The original project plans [up to 11 per project] used to track progress on a project. The baseline plan is a snapshot of your schedule at the time that you save the baseline and includes information about tasks, resources, and assignments.) and begin to track actual (actual: Information that shows what has actually occurred. For example, the actual start date for a task is the day that the task actually started.) progress on tasks.
When you enter an actual start date or actual finish date for a task, Project updates the scheduled dates for that task in the Start and Finish fields. The baseline start and finish dates, however, are not affected by changes you make to the actual or scheduled dates.
When you update or enter progress on tasks, Project calculates the difference between a task's baseline start dates and the scheduled (scheduled: The most current information about a project, including actual and remaining dates, durations, and costs for tasks that have started and the latest projected dates, durations, and costs for tasks that have not yet started.) start dates, and shows that difference in the Start Variance field. The variance (variance: The difference between baseline and scheduled task or resource information, they usually occur when you set a baseline plan and begin entering actual information into your schedule. Variances can occur in work, costs, and schedule.) is also calculated between the baseline finish dates and scheduled finish dates, shown in the Finish Variance field. When tasks are completed, the variance is calculated between the baseline start and finish dates and the actual start and finish dates.
If changes you've made to tasks affect their start or finish dates or their successors' (successor: A task that cannot start or finish until another task starts or finishes.) start or finish dates, the new dates become scheduled start and finish dates. Scheduled start and finish dates show the current status of the project as a result of the changes you made.
You can also compare baseline, scheduled, and actual dates to dates in an interim plan (interim plan: A set of task start and finish dates that you can save at certain stages of your project. You can compare an interim plan with the baseline plan or current plan to monitor project progress or slippage. You can save up to 10 interim plans.) if you want to see incremental progress on your project.

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GENESEO -- Bully has never missed a year of Geneseo's Victorian Christmas Walk, but Saturday night, her 20th year, was her last.
As the city celebrated the 20th anniversary of the event, Bullet, nicknamed Bully, gave her last carriage rides around the streets of Geneseo. Her owner, Melody Clementz has decided to retire Bully from the hard work and will only use her now for shorter jobs, like weddings.
"I think it's her turn to retire. She's in fabulous condition. I hope to have her for many more years to come," Mrs. Clementz said of the brown Standardbred mare. "I'll probably look back when she's 45 and think why did I retire her?"
Another horse, Sugar, will be with Mrs. Clementz next year giving rides, but Bully can't be replaced, she said.
"That's going to be the hardest part," she said. "I know her so well. I trust her. We know each other."
Mrs. Clementz wasn't complaining about the snowy, 20-degree weather Saturday night. She's seen worse nights over the years.
"I remember our first Victorian walk. There were only two of us giving rides that night," she said. "It was 8 degrees when we started, and 8 below when we finished."
Another night, the walk ended early thanks to a blizzard.
"As I looked down the boulevard toward downtown, a blizzard came sweeping through and the street just seemed to disappear," Mrs. Clementz said. "The drive home took forever because we couldn't see the road at all. I was so thankful and relieved when we pulled into the barnyard."
Bully is 24 years old, and worked as a racehorse before Mrs. Clementz got her in 1984. She had a hairline fracture and needed some rest. So she was offered free to a good home by her owner.
Mrs. Clementz said when she walked into the barn, there were four horses with their heads hanging out of the stalls. "The gentleman asked me which one I thought (Bully) was. I pointed to the fourth one and said 'I hope it's that one' and it was," she said.
Bully has become a pro at the carriage rides. She even stops and looks both ways at the stop signs, Mrs. Clementz said.
Saturday's walk featured fireworks and 20 lighted trees to celebrate the 20th anniversary.
Mayor Pat Eberhardt said the walk is a great family tradition. He remembers attending the first walk pushing his son Nick in a stroller through the snow. Nick is now 21 years old and a student at Southern Illinois University, Mayor Eberhardt said.
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Working on trying to set up a background (wallpaper) for our Citrix thin client users. We already have two bitmap images for staff and pupils that our thick clients getwhen they log on through AD.
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Gennifer Brandon powers Cal women to blowout win over UCLA
Los Angeles, CA, United States (4E Sports) – Gennifer Brandon scored 16 points while Layshia Clarendon and Britanny Boyd added 14 as the California Golden Bears handled the UCLA Bruins 79-51 Friday at Pauley Pavilion.
The Golden Bears salvaged a big victory on the road after igniting a fast start to hand the Bruins their first home loss in Pac-12 regular-season.
By playing tough defense and executing their plays well, the Lady Bears dominated the Bruins in the first 20 minutes of play and ended the first half with a commanding 39-21 cushion.
Trying to avoid a complete embarrassment in front of the home crowd, the Bruins tried to make a serious run in the second half but the Golden Bears had the momentum to finish them off.
Atonye Nyingifa scored a game-high 20 points while Alyssia Brewer recorded 9 points and 7 rebounds for UCLA, who slipped to 19-5 (10-3 in Pac-12).
The Bears extended their winning streak to 10 games and more importantly improved their record to 22-2 (12-1 in Pac-12).
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Wow! All I can say is WOW! This is the HG foundation I have been looking for. I heard about this brand from MarthaStewart.com's blog on the top 9 best natural foundations. I would have to agree based on my results. I got the sample kit and found my color to be the med/golden in airbrush finish. I have very sensitive skin and have been unable to wear eyeshadows, foundations (from most grocery store brands) etc for some time. I was hesitant to try F.O at first because I have been let down so many times and makeup isn't cheap. I was pleasantly surprised to find that I had no reaction to the foundation whatsoever! The minerals went on smoothly, covered my imperfections and looked like natural skin. I just ordered some samples of eyeshadows as well so I cannot wait to try and see if I can finally wear eyeshadow without getting red swollen eyes. The only note I would say is go with full size brushes if you can, the cheap sample brush is really harsh, and can make your skin turn red and angry/irritated as it is abrasive. Brushes make a huge difference make sure you have a good natural or synthetic hair set so you can get good results! This company has a new customer for life.
This is only based on my sink type........
I tried the Faerie Organic Foundation Samples I ordered. My skin got a really tight felling as soon as I applied the foundation to my face. My checks started burning really bad. I had to immediately wash off the foundation. I will stick to my non organic Bear Minerals. :( Sad. I was really hoping the whole Organic thing would work out for me....:(
I love Faerie Organic's mineral foundation. Mineral foundation is the type that's best suited to my skin, but previous bad experiences with Bare Escentuals' products turned me off from loose mineral foundation years ago. Every time I went back to BE, I had to stop for the same reasons: irritation, itching, and breakouts. I even tried Laura Mercier's mineral foundation, but the coverage was just so-so and her product would oxidize by midday, leaving my skin with a slight bit more orange than I would have liked.
I read about Faerie Organic being a good alternative to Bare Escentuals on an online acne forum, so I checked them out and bought their sample kit. I first tried the airbrushed variety (the one with the dewy finish) with their sheer veil powder, but despite their claims that it's appropriate for all skin types, my skin produced enough oil that it made me look too shiny by the end of my work day. Then I tried the full coverage (matte finish) with the matte veil powder. It was perfect. It gave good coverage, it survived my work day, and its color stayed true and did not oxidize despite my tendency to get shiny.
Now, I use the full coverage foundation in medium golden, the matte veil powder, the Flower Child au Naturale primer, and their concealer in medium. It provides sufficient coverage to conceal redness from breakouts and evens out my skin tone with a natural look. Most importantly, I have not suffered from irritation or breakouts since using Faerie Organic. The full coverage matte foundation also provides much better coverage than Bare Escentuals'. I also love that the matte veil powder has kaolin clay in it; between that and the silica and rice powder in the primer, the oilies strike way later in the day than they used to.
During a month or two during the winter, I did find that the full coverage with matte powder did leave my face looking a little overly done, but I suspect that it was the dryness that was the problem. Now that it's early summer, however, it looks completely natural. Next winter, I'll try using the airbrush version with sheer veil to see if that mitigates the "powder face" winter look.
I've turned some of my BE-using friends on to Faerie Organic and they've made the switch with me. We love the lower price point, the better coverage, and the gentleness of the product.
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I do like some of their products, however, their customer service leaves something to be desired. Sometimes they reply and others, they wont. Apparently, they only desire to reply to certain e-mails and do not answer their phone. Every time I've ordered it takes a long time to ship then wont reply per my request on the order status. I became quite frustrated and went on an online quest for another company and actually found two that I prefer over FaerieOrganic now.
Makeup Artist's Choice and Cory Cosmetics are better and have great customer service.
I used bare minerals for roughly 5 years prior to finding this product, stopped using upon discovering it was the reason I was breaking out. Faerie Organic has been pretty good to me .. I'm not entirely convinced that the Mica in it isn't giving me clogged pores/breakouts (as per Mica is known for that).
Overall, I think this product is ok, I feel good about telling myself it's organic, and it's not overly expensive - though I'm not sure it's doing me any good. It could be a great thing for those who aren't acne prone or overly sensitive. I would also be weary of reading reviews on other sites as I've heard the owner of the company posts reviews. I will continue to buy until I find something better (the search continues!).
I've used Bare Minerals, great coverage BUT itchy feeling, especially when I was in the gym, when I started to sweat a little ( yeah I wear a little foundation in the gym ). So I was searching online, for reviews on some good mineral foundations, and many people were pretty excited about Faerie Organic. I ordered a sample pack, with different colours in the FAIR line, and fairly light was a good match, and I had to admit the coverage was pretty good.My face looked less greasy by the end of the day, and very important: No itching! Now my acne.. well let's just say that 50% of my acne went away when I started using this. I'm using acne medication now, and I use this foundation everyday, and my skin is getting clearer each month. I don't think a HG foundation for my skin exists, but this comes pretty close!
I was a Merle Norman devotee until they CLOSED the one and only store within 500 km from me last year. I have been searching far and wide for the perfect mineral makeup that would give me the nice dewy look without being sparkly and FINALLY I have found it. I am just sad that I bought a big order or EDM because this blows it out of the water. Also, even though the samples come in the baggies (which I hate), they gave more samples than I ordered and generous amounts. I haven't tried the blush but I'm very excited to buy some more products from Faerie!! DEFINITE recommend.
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I love this foundation! My skin looks amazing, all flaws are minimized. I have very sensitive acne prone skin and have problems with breakouts to most foundations I have tried, but not this one! My skin looks flawless, I feel like I can finally leave the house without being self conscious about my acne. I would highly recommend!
I ordered samples in the airbrush and max coverage foundations and thank goodness I didn't buy the full size. I asked a girl on here what makeup she used because her skin was just breathtaking and this the brand she was using. Glad it worked so well for her, but no dice for me. I tested the samples a few times and when the makeup was on my skin it was beautiful but when I washed it off I had tons of huge HIVES. It also left a small burn mark on my jawline! :-( I've never had this happen with any other makeup product. It took my skin about 2 weeks to get better. I have used Aromaleigh's Pure Powder in the past with no problems. I also sampled BE, but it was way too shiny for me to really give it a chance. If you do want to try Faerie Organics, get samples first. Overall I do not recommend.
I ordered from this company back in the fall of 2008 and I can't believe how much their prices have risen! Their foundations used to be $12 bucks! Yes literally $12 bucks! I haven't gone on to their website for quite a long time because my mineral foundation lasted me a looong time. I still have some left =)
Anyway to get on with the review, this would be my favorite mineral foundation because it gives you this really dewy fresh look and gives you medium to full coverage. Its very buildable, which is what I really like. If you have deep scarred acne, it will give it some coverage but you would still need a bit of concealer.
For a mineral foundation I am surprised at the lasting power (5 - 6 hrs) and the fact that it does not clog my pores. If you want to wear it the whole day, then I suggest wearing a good face primer because it will stick for a longer amount of time. I actually wore the Faerie Organic foundation for my senior prom and it did its job.
I like wearing both liquid and mineral foundations. Mineral foundation are usually what I wear more for the day time or if I feel like going more for the natural look. This foundation does give you a very natural look and is extremely light on the face. The only problem I have with this is that the price has gotten more expensive. But I really would recommend this for anyone.
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I want to put two adsense boxes before my content in such a way that both boxes appear together. Like on this page.
They haven't done that very well. Firstly, they use outdated code to make that happen, and I don't see the point, as it just repeats the ads!
Anyhow, if you really want to do this, create two divs, give them a width a bit less than half the width of the content area, set them to float: left; or display: inline-block; and then paste the Google code inside each of them.

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I put two divs, one with left and other with right but not getting what I want. Can you guide a little bit more?
It's better to put the styles in your external style sheet, but I'll put them inline here for demo porpoises. You need to give the boxes a width or floating won't do anything. Ideally, we should see your page (or some demo code) to know what circumstances you're working within (fixed width wrapper? etc.), but here's a possible way to go:
If your content area has a fixed width, you could change the width and margins to pixels, but mixing pixels and % is a bit hit and miss.Code:

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LOUISVILLE, KY. (WDRB) -- Police say a falling tree struck a man with such force that it partially buried him.
Jeff Topping, chief of detectives for Floyd Co. Sheriff's Dept. says the 78-year-old man and his son were trying to cut a tree when if fell. The son was able to call 911 and then get a tractor to pull the tree off his father.
The accident happened deep in a wooded area off Corydon Pike, west of New Albany Wednesday afternoon.
The sheriff's department says firefighters needed a four-wheel drive truck to navigate a rugged trail for a mile and a half just to reach the man.
Officers say the victim is seriously hurt and undergoing treatment at University Hospital. They have not released his name.
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Bob Sheaves discussed why the system is almost always used on V8s and not V6s:
"An Otto cycle engine requires two full revolutions of the crankshaft to fire all the cylinders. Two revolutions x 360 degrees equals 720 degrees of rotation. Dividing that total rotation by the number of cylinders to have an even firing engine (naturally balanced) will give you 120 degrees, which means that you have a cylinder firing every 120 degrees of rotation. When you take out 3 of the cylinders, you have increased the firing rotation to 240 degreees (720/3), still balanced between each firing of a cylinder. The catch is that you have increased the harmonic vibrations as the rpms increase. Deactivation of four cylinders in a V6 would mean losing the multiple of six cylinders, which intrinsically keeps the engine in primary balance. (The lack of natural balance is why balance shafts are often used in 90 degree V6s and larger inline 4 cylinder engines.)"
I saw that picture, and to me it looked like a heavier chain. How much? Dunno!
Harmonics? Ya I believe it.
Tensioner or Guide? Probably a factor also.
MDS? Contributing also!
Chain? The one constant failure point.
Talked to my Service mgr. today via phone. Said the timing chain broke, and they are replacing the heads also! Asked a few questions, got really nowhere. Will be at their doorstep mon a.m. to take a look and maybe some photos if they've done squat. The service mgr. sounds like a real wizbang!!!!!!!!!
Asked him "why are you replacing the heads? Bent valves?" His answer "Thats what the factory is sending us!" I then asked "Did the valves make contact with the pistons?" Wizbang "We don't have the heads off yet but if there is further damage I will be talking to Chrysler" Me "Don't you f*****g think you should diagnose a little before you assume everything else is alright?" Wizbang "I'm sorry sir" I just told him I would see him first thing monday morning.
LAST post by your favorite a$$hole, just to give the youngsters a quick, easy demo, that ANY of you that have an OHV, pullcord start lawnmower, of how MDS works, hokay?
Fire it up to be sure it runs. Now, remove the valve cover, if you dare, now, remove BOTH rocker arms, again, this is very advanced, YOU may never get it running again without calling a professional. Now pull the cord with no rocker arms...what IF the intake rocker arm was operational just long enough for the first gulp of 14-1 air fuel mixture, fired it as usual, THEN the rockers were off.....that air/fuel charge exploded one time, peak cylinder pressures rose ENORMOUSLY and then, they NEVER left the cylinder, which now has no rocker arms and YOU are TRYING to yank that cord to pull it through the next rotation with what started as maybe 175PSI & went maybe 10.5x that when the plug ignited it that one time before the rockers came off...think...no, go try the experiment, if you have a wrench or two & go ahead & show EVERYBODY what an idiot this guy is...but don't talk to me about it, I don't know sh!t....
This thread has become more about how MDS functions and why chains break then focusing on the fix to this problem, don't get me wrong, I think we have some great minds on this topic but it's time for theories on how to prevent this disaster from happening to these motors.Ive heard a few ideas, such as - 1) tuning out MDS with the predator- 2) changing the timing setup-3) using autostick. I don't believe dodge will address this mess, so I check in with this thread every day in search of a solution to this problem. So please keep the suggestions coming. Thank you all for your input so far. I do not want to get rid of this car, still hangin on.
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Drone listens to the tape in which smriti had recorded her conversation with bikram, and in which bikram confess raping meenakshi and being smriti's dad. Drone is very upset and goes to see smriti at her place. He tells smriti that if she needs any help, then he will help her.
He is still at smriti's place and dweep is wating for him in a resturant for dinner, after waiting she is going back and sees drone's car outside smriti's house, she goes inside and sees drone and smriti hugging each other. She goes back home and when drone comes, she confronts him and tells him that he loves smriti, but he says that he doesnt love smriti but cares for her. Everyone ask him that why was he at smriti's place so late and he says that he cant reply to that question. Dweep says that there is no need be engaged to her if he loves smriti. She throws her engagement ring.
Smriti comes and everyone starts saying bad things to smriti and drone asks all not to say anything to her and goes to his room, his mom follows him. Drone says that its nice dweep broke the engagement as he never loved her and for marriage love is necessary. His mom asks that does he love smriti and he says he only cares for her.
Arindam, aditya and bikram are in their room and bikram and arindam have a heated discussion where bikram accuses drone and arindam says its smriti fault, not drone's. aditya asks them not to fight among themselves and check whether drone has got to know smriti's truth or not. Arindam goes to drone and asks him why is he reacting like this n misbehaving with bikram... drone refuses to answer and leaves.
Misha is looking at drone and dweep's picture and crying when ishita and debo come to her. Debo is crying and apologises to misha and says she is doubly hurt cos her daughter is in pain and she cant make her daughter her daughter in law. Misha says that its neither debo's nor drone's fault and its all smriti's fault.
Last scene is kids bua has come from USA ( pplayed by sudha chandran)... dont know who's real sister she is out of three friends.
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than x for the update, what do think about drone? i think he need to brush up his acting a bit, and i think sudha will be cool, maybe she's going to fight against smriti....
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did you see sudha's make up, disgusting, "orange" lipstick and black feathers on her ears...has ekta gone mad?
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The Oscars Snubbed Batkid at the Last Minute
Here's what you didn't see at the Oscars: The Academy Awards pulled a segment with 5-year-old Miles Scott, also known as Batkid, Mashable has learned. Batkid's special day lit up San Francisco (and the Internet) in October, and the Oscars was set to pay tribute to him Sunday with a special segment where Spider-Man star Andrew Garfield was to introduce Miles as "the word's next superhero." At that point, the 5-year-old was to walk on stage to rapturous applause.


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Not to make light of your rough day, Kate but I did chuckle to myself that you said it was fine you were losing mind before you started working. Like, eh, who needs it!
Not to make light of your rough day, Kate but I did chuckle to myself that you said it was fine you were losing mind before you started working. Like, eh, who needs it!
I didn't think the africanized bees helped pollinate anything, or do I have it wrong? I do understand they swarm and are deadly and that's bad. And they're taking over our nice honeybee colonies (which do pollinate).
Kate, I hate how they put you in the position of reporting the driver for speeding. I wouldn't want to be caught in the middle of that.
I guess my excitement about the whole Titanic thing is more about the kids. They grew up with that movie. They watched it a lot and to this day will quote from it often. I'm looking forward to surprising them with the tickets.
Mandy, I don't remember anything about my CM or lack thereof with any of my pregnancies. I don't think it was that noticeable either way. My only early pregnancy sign was a very slight tendency toward feeling a bit woozy during long drives on hairpin roads. I wouldn't have thought anything of it, except in retrospect I thought, "Ah, that explains it!"
I liked Titanic, and I also could equally see why people thought it was silly. I saw it more than once, and I cried at the beginning just knowing what would happen to many of the people who were getting on it. I actually didn't cry at the end because by then I was a little annoyed at the characters. These days, I could never sit through it. I haven't been to a movie in a theater in years. I haven't seen a movie in my house in years, either. I can barely watch a one-hour show in my house.
Kate, good for you for doing the right thing.
I think I am on the verge of a breakdown. I know my problems are trivial compared to some of yours, but I am crying every single night now and today I actually had to hold back tears several times at work when I thought about it. I can't believe it is about something so ridiculous, but it is that awful bedtime issue again. It has been getting worse and worse and worse. Baby S. had about two weeks of sleeping well in January, and it's been getting progressively worse since then. His latest trick has been to spend 3 or so hours shouting or singing or yelling in his crib after bedtime, sometimes until after our bedtime. He gets really loud. The past few nights he has thrown everything out of his crib, and has taken the sheet and mattress pad off and thrown that out as well. If we keep him up later, he just stays up later--the 3+hours remains the same. If I stay with him, he isn't quite as loud, but I have to rub his back the whole time, and he stays awake the whole time. I've been developing horrible back and hip pains from bending over the crib, rubbing and patting him for hours at a time.
I would be fine with holding him and letting him sleep in my arms, but he has never settled that way. He just gets more excitable. He would never go to sleep while being held. The twin have been staying up late, sometimes hours past their bedtime, and I go in there and I lose my patience and tell them to be quiet because they're keeping the baby awake but honestly he's probably keeping them awake and afterward I regret my tone and how the last thing they hear before they go to sleep is the worst mood I'm in all day.
S. has been fighting his naps off and on lately too, so yesterday I decided I would skip his nap entirely, in hopes of an easier bedtime. All day we stayed busy. We did errands and some fun things. He told me he was tired a few times, and I reminded him that if he went to sleep at night instead of yelling and throwing things out of his crib, he would be able to take a nap tomorrow. He became drowsy and more complacent as the day went on. After dinner, he went to the crib and promptly began yelling and tearing the crib apart. Hours went by. I patted him. I remade his bed. I reminded him that the crib was for sleeping. He's not always upset. Sometimes he just hangs out in there and sings. Sometimes he's fine in there by himself. Sometimes he's fine with one of us in there with him, but not right there. If he gets really upset, we always go in there.
After more yelling, I asked him if he wanted to try sleeping next to DS in the bunk bed. This would be new. He said yes. So did DS, who was delighted, and drowsy, but still awake. I reminded them both to lie still and be quiet and try to go to sleep. 15 minutes of in and out of the bed and baby S. tackling DS and cuddling him and straddling him and kissing him and rolling all over him and head-butting him and in and out of the bed with both of them and a final head-butt that resulted in a lot of blood made me put S. back in the crib.
We have a bedtime routine. They don't watch tv. They don't have desserts or sugar. They get tons of exercise. They brush teeth, put on pajamas, read books and go to bed. Going to bed earlier or later doesn't seem to affect it. Being in there or not doesn't seem to make a difference. There was an article about the family bed by Mayim Bialik in a recent issue of Parenting and how they all sleep together and how it's made it so that there are no issues about bedtime or whether or not someone is getting out of bed a bunch of times a night and how it's so peaceful and I showed that article to my dh and we talked about how happy we would be to have a family bed if it meant there would be no issues. GRR! However, Baby S. has issues just being in bed with other people. It makes him kind of crazy. And he doesn't sleep. He barely sleeps if he's in bed by himself.
I don't know what to do. The people closest to me, to us, my mom and my dh, and me, we're all at a loss. We feel like we've tried everything. We've had brief periods where it got better, and then it got worse again. S. was the most awesome sleeper from birth until about 8 months old. And then it all went south. I hate to be one of those people who complains about baby sleep habits, but honestly, I am at the point where I feel like it's affecting my sanity. I was always okay with waking up multiple times a night. I expected that. I am having a really hard time with this. And dh might be going out of town all next week. I started writing this post a couple of hours ago, and then dh told me that S was calling for me and he (dh) was not acceptable, so I spent the past hour in a dark room, patting him and crying over his sheetless crib. I am all messed up. I know I need to cheer myself up, but this sucks.
Oh, L, I'm so sorry. I wish I had some advice for you, but it really does sound as though you have tried everything. I hope you can find some solution.
Me (40) DH (47) & furbabies * m/c 7/08 4/12 11/12
L, I found this online:
The choice to sleep with DS didn't work, but what about something else to do with a choice? Choosing lights off or on, etc?What if my child has problems settling in at night or resists going to sleep?
There are different reasons your child may not want to go to bed at night.*Your child may have issues with autonomy.* In other words, they may want to have more control over their body and their environment.* This usually starts to happen after about nine months of age, and is what two-year-olds are famous for!* Give your child some limited choice and "control" over the type of bedtime activities and the order of the bedtime routine.** If your child has more control over these activities, they may feel less need to exercise control over when they fall asleep.
From here.
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Me (40) DH (47) & furbabies * m/c 7/08 4/12 11/12
Lydia, this is absolutely not trivial. Lack of sleep, in a child's second year is really difficult. Maybe it's not so mind numbing when they are infants because we are prepared for that and are biologically wired to live off a small amount of sleep for that first year.
When Kai was 2 and Savana was 3, and dbf was still in Hawaii, bedtime took hours every night and Kai was up every 2 hours crying and I had to walk him back to sleep. That whole year of my life is a complete blur.
Have you tried any homeopathic sleep remedies? Chamomile tea, perhaps?
Last edited by Bridget; 03-31-2012 at 06:53 AM.
S. will not drink anything besides milk or water. I have tried tea and juice and even ginger ale when he was sick and he refuses everything.
Thanks for the link, Mandy. I will try giving him some more choices within reason.
I believe I cursed myself when I posted last night. I left him to sleep on his sheetless mattress after asking him a few times if he wanted me to put the sheets back on. He kept telling me to leave them off. So he woke up at midnight crying that he was cold. No wonder! Even though I'd put a blanket on him and our house is warm, he was sleeping face down on this hard plastic mattress, probably in a puddle of drool. So I pulled him out and put the mattress pad and sheet back on.
He continued to wake up about every hour during the night, crying "MommyMommyMommyMommyMommyMommy" and if I waited a bit he would escalate and start screaming. He didn't need anything except for me to go over there and put a gentle hand on him and tell him to go back to sleep. At 4:00, 4:10, and 4:20 he woke up again, so at 4:30 I decided to see if maybe his need for my presence and comfort might be alleviated by bringing him into bed with us. Maybe this would be the exception to him getting all riled up and unable to sleep. I brought him into bed and he cuddled against me for the next hour, but did not go to sleep. He held my hand. He rubbed his feet against my side. He flopped his head against my neck, one direction or another. At 5:30 he sat up and said he wanted to look outside. It was dark. I staggered out of bed, decided to make an exception to the no tv rule for my sanity, and plopped him on the couch so he would be quiet and not shout for the next hour because everyone else is still sleeping.
Oh, and in the interests of full disclosure, I should mention that I have also been wondering if his two-year-molars are coming in and causing him pain, although he says his mouth doesn't hurt. He's been drooling a lot. I don't believe in medicating for teething pain in general, because it's such a long process. But as an experiment and for sheer desperation, I gave him Ibuprofen last night to see if that would have any effect. Maybe it's pain that's been keeping him up. Usually when he has Ibuprofen, he sleeps better, so that should not have caused his wakefulness last night. Sometimes he just does this, in addition to all of his other stuff.
He is lucky he is so sweet and affectionate and charming so much of the time.
We had been planning on making a full-day trip to the Monterey Bay Aquarium today, which is several hours' drive away and I was planning on not getting back until the kids' bedtime, but after my sleepless night, I'm not sure I'm up to packing everything we'll need and driving back and forth and wrangling all of them and keeping them happy all day when I can barely maintain myself.
Kate that does sound like an off day!
Chrissy, I liked the movie but probably not going to see it 3D. 3D movies actually make DH kind of sick.
I agree, I didn't think killer bees helped and hurt the nice honey bees. I rarely see a bee which is sad. Instead I see hornets or wasps. I just saw an article that was on Msnbc a day or two ago about how they think that they found the problem and that it was some chemical or two that farmers are using. The actress Ellen Page i think is involved in something to do with saving the honey bees.
Oh Mandy, I found the crotch word fine too. Usually what is used in my house as I don't care for the technical proper terms. I'm happy that the symptoms are continuing!!! As a night person, the going to bed 2 hours early is especially exciting!!!!
And L, big huge I cannot fathom working on so little sleep for such a long time.
Sorry to jump in without reading, I'm having a hard time with Remy's preschool evaluation yesterday. They didn't give me much info which leads me to jump to conclusions about everything. But basically they did an eval, then a separate speech eval and now they're saying he needs to go to a "playgroup", to see how he interacts with other children to make sure how he would do in a preschool setting. Ugh I'm so stressed. I poste a bit more in the special needs room. I just needed to vent a little and there is nobody else I can vent to. (not like you guys are my last choice or anything, I just need to get it out and I know you guys are sympathetic to these sorts of issues.)
Yeah well they should. It makes me worry that they don't say much. I mean, I am his mom. Though when he was in speech before I did ask one of the ladies if she thought he had any autistic tendencies and she said something like "Well you'd have to get him an eval, but in short there are some things I notice." Mostly (imo) lack of eye contact, not following directions, acting out and of course, speech. So that's why I'm worried, thinking they are going to slap that to us.
Liz, I'm really sorry you are faced with all of this worry. Sometimes it seems like no definitive answer and waiting to find out is worse than knowing one way or another. That way you're left with your imagination, which gives the worst diagnoses and scenarios of all. You know, no matter what, he will be the same sweet boy you know and love.
When or if you get a diagnosis, you can choose to use it or not, I think. Mandy knows a lot more about this than I do, of course, but I think the advantage to having an actual diagnosis--if there IS one--is that you can get services. You don't have to use them. They are a benefit. It doesn't change who Remy is, but it would allow him to have more benefits than he might otherwise have.
My sister, who is perfectly brilliant, managed to get herself officially diagnosed with dyslexia. In California, that ensured that she got special accommodations for tests. In law school, she was allowed to take as long as she wanted for essay tests. Even the bar exam, I think. I actually don't think she is dyslexic, but has a math-specific learning disability. She used the accommodations when she wanted to and used the label only when it suited her to use it.
Anyway, I hope he does well at the play group and shows his full range of speaking and talents so that they can get a much better grasp of his skills. I assume you could supplement with a video or anecdotes as well, right? I know Baby S. hardly speaks at all when questioned by strangers, despite his linguistic abilities, just because he is a little hesitant and shy. I hope you can try to set aside your what-ifs until the time comes when you can make a more informed decision.
Thanks Lydia. That helps. I still would really like to home school him. I think part of my worry is that if some diagnosis comes from all of this, they will take that choice out of my hands to do so. I have nothing wrong with them doing supplemental learning with him, or even part time, or short term. I just don't think I want that choice to be taken away from me to home school him. Not to mention the stress that comes from getting him to and from the preschool. IF I had the space to put all the daycare kids in my vehicle (not possible right now because we only have a car and 5 total kids including my 2) I'd still have to get them all out of the vehicle, take them all in to drop him off/pick him up. OR he take the bus, which I would still have to walk him to/from the bus, meaning leaving the kids inside for a minute basically by themselves. No seatbelts. I'm a bit of a safety nut and I could not imagine not putting a seatbelt of some sort on him in a moving vehicle. I don't trust that he would not want to stand up. But maybe I'm underestimating him? Either way, more ugh.
L, your sleeps issues are not trivial at all. That's a really big deal, so don't be hard on yourself for shedding tears and being completely overwhelmed. Goodness, I've been there and I didn't have anywhere near the level of difficult nights you described. This is a big deal, so don't minimize it because you don't think it's as severe as others. I think going without sleep like you described is at least as bad as anything I've been through in the last year and a half. Maybe worse. How can you think clearly on lack of sleep? Sleep deprivation causes all kinds of mental and physical problems.
How was S when you played the tv? I know you have a no tv rule, but would he lay quietly and drift off if he had something to watch? I only suggest out of desperation and no clue what else you could possibly do. Taking him to a dr probably wouldn't do any good because what are they going to do? Prescribe something? Eesh.
I wish I had better advice.
Okay, I feel like an idiot. One of the other reasons I have been miserable lately is because I feel like I've been falling apart physically. Last summer, I started having this horrible AF bleeding. 10 days of heavy flow, bleeding through super plus tampons more frequently than every 2 hours. I had a uterine biopsy, lab tests, etc. Everything normal. In the meantime, I started getting more frequent headaches and more GI symptoms (which are chronic issues for me, but got worse). My OB put me on Prometrium 12 days a month in the hopes that it would decrease my bleeding. It's been a little less, but it is still life-changing.
I have had to contact my GI doctor who has been trying to add another medication to control my symptoms, and told me I have to stop taking Ibuprofen entirely because that makes it worse. So now I'm having difficulty controlling my headaches, which are almost daily. I made an appointment with my neurologist to discuss my options.
Then today I finally looked up the side effects of Prometrium in detail. Headache, diarrhea, mood changes and depression. I told you guys I have been crying every night lately. Well, I am on my 12 days of that drug right now. So maybe it's not just that my life sucks. I wrote to my OB and told him I was stopping it. I have tried to stop it a few times in the past because I told him I didn't think it was helping, and he kept telling me to try another few months. I just told DH this and he said he has been really worried about me, because he knows I have been going into the bedroom and patting S. and sobbing over him every night, and I have been crying at other times too. He said, "No, your life doesn't suck that much. Just a little bit."
I will wait for the one speech lady to call me. I'm assuming she does sometime next week.
And I want to give you big Lydia. I cry sometimes too, but not daily. I'd for sure stop the meds and see how it goes.
Liz, when I test the kids I don't usually have a straight answer for the parents when they ask me that day (I will give them a straight answer if the child is so incredibly severe there is no guesswork involved - but in most cases I need to go over my notes and score the tests to know for certain what I saw, and I don't want to tell parents one thing and then learn I was wrong when I go back over it, so it's best to be vague). When they come back to get the results, I have a detailed report for them.
Remember that this is part of his educational records, which you as a parent have a legal right to access. So if they don't share much with you, request his records and see what it all says.
And NO ONE has the right to tell you you can't homeschool. You are the parent, you are in control. We offer services to parents, and it is 100% their choice whether to accept them or not. You also have the legal right to accept them, and then change your mind later and revoke your consent. You are absolutely in control. That said, although there are many amazing benefits to homeschooling, kids with special learning needs can be really hard to teach. You might want their assistance, even for part of the time, so you can see what it is he needs to learn best. The teaching methods involved are totally different and not necessarily something you will think of without some study. But it's your decision to make, not the school's.
Oh, and about the autism thing - unless they specifically did an autism evaluation, they won't (or at least, shouldn't) give him the label now. They would need a different type of evaluation to make that determination. In my state, we don't even have that label available for preschoolers, only for K and up. Other states vary. The educational labels that come from the school system are different than a medical diagnosis.
Hope this helps some.
Last edited by Gwenn; 03-31-2012 at 09:44 AM.
Me (40) DH (47) & furbabies * m/c 7/08 4/12 11/12
Oh, L, I'm so glad you are stopping those meds! I really hope you feel a lot better.
Me (40) DH (47) & furbabies * m/c 7/08 4/12 11/12
Thanks Gwenn. I was hoping you'd chime in. Like I said, I'm not opposed to him going to preschool. And like you said, it could be really good for ME to learn what makes him tick and how to help him better. Because I do NOT have a early childhood background, or any type of training on special needs. So thanks for at least calming me down a bit. It's hard to not worry though. He's my baby and, like I said early, it's going to be hard to let go a little bit in order to do what is best for HIM.
Learning to do that will be a great thing for both of you, I'm sure.
Me (40) DH (47) & furbabies * m/c 7/08 4/12 11/12
Yeah I think dbf is right when he says I have control issues. I always have with my babies. I can't help it.
Well, of course! They're your babies!
Me (40) DH (47) & furbabies * m/c 7/08 4/12 11/12
I know, I just get defensive when he says it to me, bbecause when he says it it sounds so harsh and ... what's the word... basically just mean sounding. Like when he says I have ADD. It's not in a nice way. Yeah we have issues in our relationship that these types of accusations do not help.
L, it's a relief that you've found something that may be exacerbating the negatives and making it harder to cope with. I hope they can figure something else out to get your periods to lighten up though. If S will start sleeping better, you'll be a brand new person with limitless energy.
No, that isn't going to help anyone's relationship if he says that in a not-nice way.
Me (40) DH (47) & furbabies * m/c 7/08 4/12 11/12
By the way, thank you so much for your research/advice about my doctor problems. I couldn't get ahold of the doctor so I just decided to continue taking the Augmentin and take probiotics as well. I'm not a big advocate of so many abx *at all* but I just couldn't risk that I had an infection and it wasn't treated properly, though obviously getting a new primary care doc is a priority for me right now.
In a way though, I'm glad he says it. But it's really all in the approach which he does NOT understand despite me telling him over and over that he needs to (for example) not yell when he's mad, we can discuss or whatever. Like when he yells I tune him out which of course pisses him off. Yes, we have a dysfunctional relationship but I don't think there is much I can do about it right now besides work on me. And then I think well sh*t, maybe if I do have ADD, that's why Remy has troubles and it's because I somehow neglect him because *I* cannot focus long enough. And then the other part of me things we, as a culture are so over medicated that I really oppose to even seeing a doctor to find out for me, and so also for Remy. Blah. Just having one of those down days where everything is depressing me.


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Tuttle Orchards Fall Activities: Apple Picking, Pumpkin Patch, and so much more!
Many Indianapolis families make apple picking and pumpkin picking at Tuttle Orchards a part of their annual traditions.
We kick off the fall season with our annual Caramel Apple Festival…the first Saturday in September.
Daily Fall Activities: there's lots to do at the orchard.
Activities are open Sept. 6-Oct. 31,2014 unless otherwise indicated below.
Indianapolis' Favorite Pick Your Own Apples: apple picking open the Friday, Aug 29 through October. Choose from $4, $8, $16 size bag to pick. Click here for current varieties.
Cut your own Sunflowers: take home a beautiful bouquet. Open early September through frost. $1/stem
Kid's Farm Play Area: lots of country fun for the little people…including mazes, tractors to ride, and more. $4/person or $6/Combo Pass.
Agrimaze: Central Indiana's Family Friendly Corn Maze: 2014 theme is "Inside Indiana Agriculture". Our corn maze includes an opportunity to complete activities as a family while finding your way through the maze. $4/person or $6/Combo Pass.
Pumpkin Patch: Open September 27 – November 1. Pick your own pumpkins right from the patch. Lots of pumpkin big and small. Pre-picked pumpkins available mid-September through October.
Farm Animals for Viewing: Tuttle's has one Llama and two goats to see while visiting. Free. Open September 6 – November 1.
Observation Bee Hive: watch the bees making honey. Free. Open September 6 – November 1.
Narrated Hayrides around the Farm: take a hayride tour of the farm while hearing a bit more about the behind the scenes at Tuttles. Available ONLY weekday afternoons and Saturdays. $3/person or check out our Combo pass below. Open September 6 – November 1.
History Exhibit: read about the 80+ years of Tuttle's history and see some older farm equipment. Free.
Shopping and Eats: Treats to enjoy on the farm and take home.
Farm Store: features apples, cider, local & gourmet groceries, produce, gifts and more.Open Mon-Sat year round.
Fall Decor: Tuttle's has a large selection of pumpkins, squash, gourds, straw, corn stalks, and more.
Sweet Shop: Caramel apples, apple cider slushies, homemade fudge. Open Mon-Sat. Labor Day through Christmas Eve.
Visit Information:
- Hours: Monday-Wednesday 9AM-6PM; Thursday-Saturday 9AM-7PM. CLOSED SUNDAY.
- NO general admission charge or a parking fee.
- Activities Passes: Kid's Farm Play Area $4/child, Agrimaze $4/person, Narrated Hayride $3/person,
- New in 2014: Save up to $5 with Combo Pass: $6/person (includes Agrimaze, Kid's Farm Play Area, Narrated Hayride).
- Upick activities are paid after picking. Cost is based on quantity or size picked.
- We accept cash, check, Visa, Mastercard, Discover on all areas of the orchard.
- You must finish picking by closing time. Thanks!
Tuttle's Festival Days
Festival Days are fall Saturdays and special event days where we open all our fall activities for families to enjoy. These days offer a festival environment with special events. During these days, the small parking lot next to the farm store will be closed to allow for special activities. Plenty of parking is available in large parking lot.
Festival Days 2014:
Saturdays: September 6, September 13, September 20, September 27, October 4, October 11, October 18, October 25.
Columbus Day: Monday, October 11. Fall Break: Friday, October 15, Friday, October 22.
Fall Visit Tips:
When Should We Visit?
- Want to pick pumpkins? October….Our pumpkin patch is open Sep 27- Oct 31. Pre-picked pumpkins are available typically by mid-September.
- Want to pick apples? September is the best time to come and pick apples.
- Want a fast moving festival environment? Come during one of our festival days.…Festival days offer the most activities and a fun filled, busy environment.
- Want a quieter experience? Early on a Saturday (9-11AM) or 2-6PM weekdays….the crowds are typically less during those times. Saturdays early in September and late in October are also less crowded.
- When NOT to visit: Sunday….we are closed. Since we're still a family farm, we find we and our employees must have a day to rest and worship with their families. It helps us serve you better and have energy to keep growing great apples.
Before you Come:
- Dress for fun, outdoor environment. Tennis shoes and casual clothes are best…maybe boots if it's rained a lot recently. Dress for the weather…which could mean sunscreen or a hat and gloves.
- Bring your camera. Info about our photo contest. Professional photographers see our Photographer Policy.
- We have plenty of picnic areas to enjoy a sack lunch or on festival days enjoy lunch at Tuttle's Grill.
- We find most families spend several hours at the orchard so plan to arrive early enough to do all the activities you want. Please note that all outdoor and upick areas will close at closing time each evening.
- Bringing a group? For group tours, you will need to schedule in advance. Check out information here.
- For your safety, Tuttle's is a smoke free farm…even in outdoor areas.
- Due to food safety and health department regulations, no pets except service animals are permitted to leave the parking lot areas. Please leave your pets at home to help your family have a better experience.
- Weather: Outdoor activities are sometimes closed due to lighting (they stay open in light rain). Please check Today at Tuttle's Page or Facebook for any weather related changes. We also encourage you to come prepared for the weather. Mud can make great memories in the pumpkin patch if you wear old shoes or boots.
- Directions we've tested. Recommended over GPS or Google Maps.
- Parking: on festival days, the parking lot in the farm store area will be closed to allow for seating for you to enjoy food from the Tuttle's Grill and Sweet Shop. Plenty of parking will be available in other areas.
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