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Psst i have a new tumblr.
It's lame bcus I just made it but whatever ok
Psst i have a new tumblr.
Well I have a computer, but I can't remember my info for tumblr.
Lyfe sux
SAMUS by wynturtle
Omg I need a new url bcus mom may possibly find my blog and I don't want her to think I'm the weird ok help pls
I downloaded the boyfriend maker app and he's kind of an asshole
SnK modern AU where Eren and Mikasa are just regular SnK fans
Can someone actually write a fic about this.
reasons black clothing is superior
- everyone knows that you're a fucking badass
- everything matches
- you look like you could disappear into the void at any given moment
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Hollywood accounting
Hollywood accounting (also known as Hollywood bookkeeping) refers to the opaque accounting methods used by the film, video and television industry to budget and record profits for film projects. Expenditures can be inflated to reduce or eliminate the reported profit of the project, thereby reducing the amount which the corporation must pay in royalties or other profit-sharing agreements, as these are based on the net profit.
Hollywood accounting gets its name from its prevalence in the entertainment industry—that is, in the movie studios of Hollywood at a time when most studios were located in Hollywood. Those affected can range from the writers to the actors.[1][2]
How it works[edit]
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Hollywood accounting can take several forms. In one form, a subsidiary is formed to perform a given activity and the parent entity will extract money out of the subsidiary not in terms of profits but in the form of charges for certain "services".[3] The specific schemes can range from the simple and obvious to the extremely complex.
Three main factors in Hollywood accounting reduce the reported profit of a movie, and all have to do with the calculation of overhead:
- Production overhead: Studios, on average, calculate production overhead by using a figure around 15% of total production costs.
- Distribution overhead: Film distributors typically keep 30% of what they receive from movie theaters ("gross rentals").
- Marketing overhead: To determine this number, studios usually choose about 10% of all advertising costs.
All of the above means of calculating overhead are highly controversial, even within the accounting profession. Namely, these percentages are assigned without much regard to how, in reality, these estimates relate to actual overhead costs. In short, this method does not, by any rational standard, attempt to adequately trace overhead costs.
Because of this, net points (a percentage of the net income (i.e. gross income minus expenses), as opposed to a percentage of the gross income) are sometimes referred to as "monkey points", a term attributed to Eddie Murphy, who is said to have also stated that only a fool would accept net points in his or her contract.[4][5]
All of this shows why so many big-name actors insist on "gross points" (a percentage of some definition of gross revenue) rather than net profit participation. This practice reduces the likelihood of a project showing a profit, as a production company will claim a portion of the reported box-office revenue was diverted directly to gross point participants.
Winston Groom's price for the screenplay rights to his novel Forrest Gump included a 3% share of the profits; however, due to Hollywood accounting, the film's commercial success was converted into a net loss, and Groom received only $350,000 for the rights and an additional $250,000 from the studio.[6]
Stan Lee, co-creator of the character Spider-Man, had a contract awarding him 10% of the net profits of anything based on his characters. The movie Spider-Man (2002) made more than $800 million in revenue, but the producers claim that it did not make any profit as defined in Lee's contract, and Lee received nothing. He has filed a lawsuit against Marvel Comics.[7]
The estate of Jim Garrison sued Warner Bros. for their share of the profits from the movie JFK (1991), which was based on Garrison's book On the Trail of the Assassins.[8] The case was settled in 1999, with Garrison's estate receiving a "very small settlement."[9]
Art Buchwald received a settlement after his lawsuit Buchwald v. Paramount over Paramount's use of Hollywood accounting. The court found Paramount's actions "unconscionable", noting that it was impossible to believe that a movie (1988's Eddie Murphy comedy Coming to America) which grossed US$350 million failed to make a profit, especially since the actual production costs were less than a tenth of that. Paramount settled for $900,000,[10] rather than have its accounting methods closely scrutinized.
The 2002 film My Big Fat Greek Wedding was considered hugely successful for an independent film, yet according to the studio, the film lost money.[11] Accordingly, the cast (with the exception of Nia Vardalos who had a separate deal) sued the studio for their part of the profits. The original producers of the film have sued Gold Circle Films due to Hollywood accounting practices because the studio has claimed the film, which cost less than $6 million to make and made over $350 million at the box office, lost $20 million.[12]
Peter Jackson, director of The Lord of the Rings, and his studio Wingnut Films, brought a lawsuit against New Line Cinema after "an audit... on part of the income of The Fellowship of the Ring". Jackson stated this is regarding "certain accounting practices", which may be a reference to Hollywood accounting. In response, New Line stated that their rights to a film of The Hobbit were time-limited, and since Jackson would not work with them again until the suit was settled, he would not be asked to direct The Hobbit, as had been anticipated.[13] Fifteen actors are suing New Line Cinema, claiming that they have never received their 5% of revenue from merchandise sold in relation to the movie, which contains their likeness.[14] Similarly, the Tolkien estate sued New Line, claiming that their contract entitled them to 7.5% of the gross receipts of the $6 billion hit.[15] Overall according to New Line's accounts the trilogy made "horrendous losses" and no profit at all.[16]
According to Lucasfilm, Return of the Jedi despite having earned $475 million at the box-office against a budget of $32.5 million, "has never gone into profit".[17]
A WB receipt was leaked online, showing that the hugely successful movie Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ended up with a $167 million loss on paper.[18] This is especially unusual, given that the Harry Potter film series is the highest-grossing film series of all time, both domestic and international without inflation adjustment. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows – Part 2 remains Warner Bros.' highest grossing movie ever.[19]
Michael Moore sued Bob and Harvey Weinstein for creative accounting to deprive him of his share of profits for the film Fahrenheit 9/11. Eventually, Moore reached a settlement with the Weinsteins and the lawsuit was dropped.[20]
Actress Lynda Carter was also upset with some of the marketing of her image that involved Hollywood accounting. Warner Bros. worked out a deal with the toy company Mego to create a Wonder Woman doll while the series was still on the air. In 1987, on The Late Show with Joan Rivers,[21] Carter commented:
I think that you're probably familiar with a problem in Hollywood, and that is that they market you, and they use you. They did a mask of my face and put it on the doll, and they put my name on for the first run of it. And then they took my name off and said they didn't have to pay me anymore. So it's the kind of thing that you can be used so much in this industry. I make nothing. I don't even make anything from the reruns. Don't ever settle for net profits. It's called "creative accounting".
Production accounting[edit]
Production accounting is a filmmaking term, used especially in Hollywood, referring to the project accounting of the cost of a film project. As with construction accounting, salient issues are the accurate allocation of workers' time to specific projects (usually requiring each worker to fill out a weekly timesheet), and the correct assessment of indirect costs such as employee benefits.
Specialized software to support production accounting has been developed.
See also[edit]
- ^ McDougal, Dennis (December 29, 1989). "Judge Must Solve Buchwald-Murphy Whodunit: Lawsuits: Final arguments in multimillion-dollar complaint against Paramount are over. Both sides accuse the other of stealing idea for $300-million movie.". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ Vincent, Mal (February 20, 1995). "After 61 films, Connery remains much in demand". The Baltimore Sun. Retrieved March 23, 2014. "I hired my own bookkeepers to keep a watch on everything. Hollywood bookkeeping can be very suspect."
- ^ Thompson, Derek (September 14, 2011). "How Hollywood Accounting Can Make a $450 Million Movie 'Unprofitable'". The Atlantic. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ McDougal, Dennis (February 4, 1990). "Murphy Movie Made Millions But Stayed in Red, Studio Ledgers Say". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ Leibman, Jordan H. (November 1, 1993). "Fatal Subtraction: The Inside Story of Buchwald v. Paramount.". AllBusiness.com. Archived from the original on February 1, 2009. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
"By the way, you called net profit participation points yesterday 'monkey points.' What's the origin of that, do you know?" I asked Eddie [Murphy] as I started to pick up my papers. "Well, it's like 'stupid' points. Stupid to take the points." "Won't be any net profits?" "You sit there with your points going, 'Eeeh, eeh, eeh, eeh, eeh.'"
- ^ Weinraub, Bernard (May 25, 1995). "'Gump,' a Huge Hit, Still Isn't Raking In Huge Profits? Hmm.". The New York Times. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ "Lawsuit filed by Spider-Man creator". BBC News. November 13, 2002. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ Robb, David (June 19, 1996). "Hollywood accounting suffers a blow in court Lawsuit: Movie studios lose first round in potentially crucial court battle as judge upholds class-action". The Baltimore Sun. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ Robb, David (April 12, 1999). "Family settles suit filed over 'JFK' profits". Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ (http://articles.latimes.com/1992-03-17/local/me-3895_1_net-profit Buchwald, Partner Win $900,000 From Studio)
- ^ "My Big Fat Greek Wedding: Most Profitable Independent Film in History, With Over $600 Million Worldwide Receipts, Supposedly Loses Over $20 Million". PR Newswire. July 1, 2003. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ Munoz, Lorenza (August 8, 2007). "Hanks sues over profit on 'Greek Wedding'". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved March 23, 2014.
- ^ xoanon (November 19, 2006). "Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh Talk THE HOBBIT". TheOneRing.net. Retrieved July 19, 2013.
- ^ "15 actors sue New Line Cinema over 'Lord of the Rings' profits". USA Today. June 6, 2007. Retrieved July 19, 2013.
- ^ The Associated Press: Tolkien Estate Sues New Line Cinema, February 12, 2008.
- ^ Scherer, Karyn (December 13, 2010). "The Hollywood shell game". The New Zealand Herald (Auckland). Retrieved July 19, 2013.
- ^ Sciretta, Peter (April 5, 2009). "LucasFilm Tells Darth Vader that Return of the Jedi Hasn't Made a Profit!?". Slashfilm.com. Retrieved July 19, 2013.
- ^ "'Hollywood Accounting' Losing In The Courts". Techdirt. July 8, 2010. Retrieved July 19, 2013.
- ^ "Hmm... Let's try that again - Potter for the People - From the Muggles". Potter for the People. Retrieved 2012-05-23.
- ^ Michael Moore, Harvey Weinstein Settle 'Fahrenheit 9/11' Lawsuit, by Matthew Belloni, at the Hollywood Reporter; published February 15, 2012; retrieved March 23, 2014
- ^ The Late Show with Joan Rivers. Fox Network. Air date: February 9, 1987
Further reading[edit]
- Fleming, Mike, Jr. (July 6, 2010). "STUDIO SHAME! Harry Potter Pic Loses Money Because Of Warner Bros' Net Profit Accounting". Deadline.com. Retrieved July 27, 2013.
- Getlin, Josh (February 13, 2008). "Eaten alive in the studio jungle". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved July 27, 2013.
- Masnick, Mike (October 19, 2012). "Hollywood Accounting: How A $19 Million Movie Makes $150 Million... And Still Isn't Profitable". Techdirt. Retrieved July 27, 2013.
- Masnick, Mike (December 2, 2009). "Warner Music's Royalty Statements: Works of Fiction". Techdirt. Retrieved July 27, 2013.
- Tyson, Jeff (2000). "How Movie Distribution Works". HowStuffWorks. Retrieved July 27, 2013.

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Hi lovers! Check out my beautiful new costume for Otafest 2013! Steampunk is our theme for this year which is exciting because it's not very often when I have a chance to wear brown! ^_~*
I've seen on Twitter and Tumblr that people planning to steampunk their costumes and I think this idea is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING! I can't wait to see your creativity!
I will be posting more often leading up to Otafest and I hope you do too! Please use the hash tag #otafest so I can see it!
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ADDED at 10:10 a.m.: For those who prefer a visual, here's a video of Paul Ryan making the case for the GOP budget plan. It's heavier on the threat we face, but lighter on policy.
Details to follow, but House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan outlined a Republican budget plan, one that spends $6.2 trillion less during the next decade than President Obama's budget calls for, in an op-ed today in the Wall Street Journal. Here are the broad brush strokes:
• Reducing spending: This budget proposes to bring spending on domestic government agencies to below 2008 levels, and it freezes this category of spending for five years. The savings proposals are numerous, and include reforming agricultural subsidies, shrinking the federal work force through a sensible attrition policy, and accepting Defense Secretary Robert Gates's plan to target inefficiencies at the Pentagon.
• Welfare reform: This budget will build upon the historic welfare reforms of the late 1990s by converting the federal share of Medicaid spending into a block grant that lets states create a range of options and gives Medicaid patients access to better care. It proposes similar reforms to the food-stamp program, ending the flawed incentive structure that rewards states for adding to the rolls. Finally, this budget recognizes that the best welfare program is one that ends with a job — it consolidates dozens of duplicative job-training programs into more accessible, accountable career scholarships that will better serve people looking for work.
As we strengthen and improve welfare programs for those who need them, we eliminate welfare for those who don't. Our budget targets corporate welfare, starting by ending the conservatorship of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that is costing taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. It gets rid of the permanent Wall Street bailout authority that Congress created last year. And it rolls back expensive handouts for uncompetitive sources of energy, calling instead for a free and open marketplace for energy development, innovation and exploration.
• Health and retirement security: This budget's reforms will protect health and retirement security. This starts with saving Medicare. The open-ended, blank-check nature of the Medicare subsidy threatens the solvency of this critical program and creates inexcusable levels of waste. This budget takes action where others have ducked. But because government should not force people to reorganize their lives, its reforms will not affect those in or near retirement in any way.
Starting in 2022, new Medicare beneficiaries will be enrolled in the same kind of health-care program that members of Congress enjoy. Future Medicare recipients will be able to choose a plan that works best for them from a list of guaranteed coverage options. This is not a voucher program but rather a premium-support model. A Medicare premium-support payment would be paid, by Medicare, to the plan chosen by the beneficiary, subsidizing its cost.
In addition, Medicare will provide increased assistance for lower- income beneficiaries and those with greater health risks. Reform that empowers individuals — with more help for the poor and the sick — will guarantee that Medicare can fulfill the promise of health security for America's seniors.
We must also reform Social Security to prevent severe cuts to future benefits. This budget forces policy makers to work together to enact common-sense reforms. The goal of this proposal is to save Social Security for current retirees and strengthen it for future generations by building upon ideas offered by the president's bipartisan fiscal commission.
• Budget enforcement: This budget recognizes that it is not enough to change how much government spends. We must also change how government spends. It proposes budget-process reforms — including real, enforceable caps on spending — to make sure government spends and taxes only as much as it needs to fulfill its constitutionally prescribed roles.
• Tax reform: This budget would focus on growth by reforming the nation's outdated tax code, consolidating brackets, lowering tax rates, and assuming top individual and corporate rates of 25%. It maintains a revenue-neutral approach by clearing out a burdensome tangle of deductions and loopholes that distort economic activity and leave some corporations paying no income taxes at all.
As I said, these are broad parameters without many specifics — which will come when the House GOP unveils the full plan later this morning. I'll post an update when the plan is out.
– By Kyle Wingfield
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April 5th, 2011
9:59 am
Icewater for hell's patrons would be easier.
April 5th, 2011
10:14 am
"eliminate welfare for those who don't need it"…I can hear the screaming now. People don't like it when "free" money is taken away from them.
April 5th, 2011
10:20 am
Under Ryan's proposal, Medicare would be eliminated and replaced with a vouchers for private insurance that don't keep up with rising health care costs and premiums. Medicaid would be gutted and sent to the states as a block grants that don't keep up with rising health care costs.. The new health care law would be scrapped entirely.
Essentially, the uninsured and under-insured would remain uninsured and under-insured while millions more would join their ranks. On the other hand, Ryan's proposal does absolutely nothing to control the health care costs in the U.S., by far the biggest driver of projected deficits, which are about twice as much here as in other industrialized nations.
Also, tax rates on corporations and the wealthy would be slashed. No worries though. These cuts are revenue-neutral. By definition, that means that the poor and middle class will have to make up the difference.
To the extent that a major political party and House majority is actually willing to rally behind such extremism — without a hint of shame or trepidation — I'll give Republicans credit for putting their ridiculous wish list on the table.
But in this context, real, meaningful courage requires sound judgment, not just a willingness to fight for millionaires and corporations, while screwing over the elderly, the poor, the disabled, and working families.
Meanwhile, John Boehner, last week: "Democrats are rooting for a government shutdown,"
John Boehner, this week: House Republicans huddled late Monday and, according to a GOP aide, gave the speaker an ovation when he informed them that he was advising the House Administration Committee to begin preparing for a possible shutdown.
Maybe now would be a good time to revisit which party is, literally, "rooting for a government shutdown."
April 5th, 2011
10:32 am
Let me try to bring all my experienced analysis to bear and offer a prediction about Congressman Ryan's proposals: republican newspaper writers and republican radio and television entertainers will like this proposal. Democrat newspaper writers and democrat radio and television entertainers will not.
Congressman Ryan is correct in that democrats will use this against republicans in 2012 and will bring all the "scare tactics" to bear. Sort of like republicans did with the health care legislation (e.g., the "death panels"). That's what politicians do best – wait for the other side to do something, test the political wind and then demagogue as needed. That's why they are politicians, not legislative leaders or statesmen.
Republican congressmen from swing states, and/or those who were elected with less than 54% of the vote and those elected in districts that President Obama carried in 2008 and will likely carry in 2012 will be swept out by a combination of President Obama being on the ballot to energize the democrat base and the successful scare tactics regarding entitlement reform plus the likely continuing decline in the unemployment rate from now until next November.
And the band plays on……………..
April 5th, 2011
10:32 am
GOP literally roots for shtudown
In other words, Republicans toady up to the rich and brutalize the poor.
April 5th, 2011
10:47 am
Bottom line is this: The top ten percent will not have to do anything painful. That is a fact. This is shilling for the large mega-corps and the rich. In other words, it's another GOP puff-piece.
April 5th, 2011
11:02 am
Looks like Republicans are trying to rewrite history again. According to Paul Ryan…"It gets rid of the permanent Wall Street bailout authority that Congress created last year. " The bailout was singed into law by President Bush in 2008…remember John Beohner crying on the House floor begging colleagues to vote for it.
April 5th, 2011
11:06 am
From 2000 to 2006 the Republicants controlled the White House, Congress and the Supreme Court; so why didn't they go ape s!@# and clean things up then they way they're now promising to? I don't trust them and never will, just like those currently under the Gold Dome. No solutions to any problems, unwilling to make any decisions, just a 'kick the can down the road' mentality.
April 5th, 2011
11:06 am
But we should still continue to subsidize one of the most profitable industries known. How many more billions do they need? The oil companies sure need our help, now more than ever.
Pay no attention to what's behind the curtain…
We're actually paying them billions after billions to come up with alternatives to oil. In the name of a free market economy.
The fact is we'll never see their efforts in alternatives to oil. Because the lobbyists behind the curtain are paying our politicians to get re-elected.
April 5th, 2011
11:09 am
They're referring to the Wall Street reform bill from last year, which DID give the government permanent bailout authority. Not the one-time huge bailout that president Bush (and a Democrat congress) passed in 2008.
April 5th, 2011
11:12 am
While I'm sure there will be little in Ryan's plan I can support I am glad to see the House doing what the Founding Fathers intended – spending proposals originate in the House.
This will get the conversation going.
April 5th, 2011
11:15 am
My best estimate is that parts of this proposal will start getting passed by Congrss right after the 2012 election.
April 5th, 2011
11:22 am
This is all about political posturing. There will be a budget passed this year and it will make no one happy. Entitlements and/or tax reform won't be seriously attacked until after the 2012 elections. It's sad but this is where we are….it's not just Obama's fault…it's the fault of the political gamesmanship that has been 30 years in the making.
April 5th, 2011
11:28 am
Kyle, I read the whole thing, including the part about corporate welfare. The problem is Republicans are not know for being truthful, to say the least. They serve big business, and will use any and all forms of legal double-talk to fool as many people as possible as to their real motives.
April 5th, 2011
11:31 am
There are two battles: One for on discretionary and the other on non-discretionary spending. The former is the one that certain parties in Congress are going to shut down the government over…the one that comprises 14% of the budget and doesn't nothing for long term stability. Perhaps if Republicans were willing to keep their powder dry for the more meaningful spending battle then I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm not impressed by the Dems but I'm not ready to give Republicans carte blanche either. Paul Ryan is addressing the real budget which I applaud him for….unfortunately there are too many entrenched interests to see the crisis through to a rational end…or so says the cynical side of me. I'll believe it when I see it….it will require the President and Republicans to agree on something in spite of the political ramifications and appeal to their respective bases….again I'll believe it when I see it.
April 5th, 2011
11:34 am
I wouldn't matter whether the Senate or Obama would or wouldn't go for it since it's not even going to be a piece of legislation in the House. According to the AP…"the GOP plan is not actual legislation but provides a nonbinding, theoretical framework for future action in Congress. " It's just a big stunt…just like the "Government Shutdown Prevention Act" House Republicans passed on Friday which stipulates that if the Senate does not pass a long-term resolution by April 6, the measure passed by the House in February, H.R. 1, and it's $61 billion in spending cuts, would be law. Also, the bill would prevent members of congress and the president from receiving their salaries in the event of a government shutdown.
April 5th, 2011
11:46 am
Why do you believe it may not become law, because the Senate and Obama won't go for it, but that doesn't mean the problem isn't being approached seriously. Republicans believe they can pass a bill in the House and it become law without the Senate passing it of the President signing it into law.
April 5th, 2011
11:50 am
Carlos: do you think Democrats are honest!? Keep in mind that regardless of party affiliations they are all politicians and they are all dishonest to a large degree.
At least this guy mentions what I consider to be a "true" entitlement and that is food stamps. Too many people are on welfare for literally decades and it is surely time to put a stop to that.
April 5th, 2011
11:55 am
Carlos, I would list the times that Obama lied but I don't have all day, and you know that also.
April 5th, 2011
11:56 am
Election carrots…again a waste of time if you know it won't work.
April 5th, 2011
12:18 pm
I love how it is all playing out. I read a lot of poiltical blogs which are more in the center and not biased almost robot like responses like Wingnut's. People are turning on the Republicans. One reality of the GOP party is they talk a good game when they are on the sidelines, but when it comes to running the show they are the biggest hypocrites in the world. Obama's reelection looks really good at this point, and the GOP continues to alienate Hispanics, women, middle class(basically anyine not rich, male, and white). It just seems like you all thought Obama didn't know what he was doing when in reality he is two steps ahead of you all the time. Just saying…..
April 5th, 2011
12:32 pm
KW: "One side says the way to slow rising health-care costs is to give government more control over the industry and consumer choices. The other side says the way to slow rising health-care costs it to make health care work like every other functioning market in human history, which means consumers have to respond to price signals."
When an industry denies coverages, denies covered claims, and gouges sick people because it can, leading to millions uninsured, millions more under-insured, and health care costs that are double that of the rest of the industrialized world, then yes, a bit of regulation (aka: "government control") is in order to get health care costs under control.
Just like we need regulation for the oil industry so they don't continue to destroy our oceans. Just like we need regulation for the airline industry to so passenger don't get sucked out of a hole in the ceiling of a plane at 35,000 feet. Just like we need regulation of the food industry so that people don't die of food poisoning. Yes, properly balanced, "government control" can be a good thing because we know that corporations, by definition, are obligated to put profits before what is morally right.
My pro-regulation position, by the way, is the pro-capitalism position. On the other hand, the notion that industry can do what it wants with impunity, especially as the right seeks to pack courts with corporatist judges, is anything but capitalism and free enterprise. It's a plutocracy.
April 5th, 2011
12:40 pm
mrs. w – poison pen
Nowhere have I ever said the Democrats are honest. It is a matter of degrees and who is serving whom. Republicans serve Big Business. Democrats serve Unions and professional victims. It's just that the Democrats are really bad but the Republicans are even worse. As proof, just look at the likely candidates, including Obama, for the 2012 presidential election. I know there are better people who could run for this office, Republicans and Democrats, but there seems to be no way to persuade them to run.
April 5th, 2011
12:46 pm
Let's put that 25% cap on top incomes tax rate into perspective.
The Federal Reserve's Survey of Consumer Finances reports that the top 10% of all American households owns 72% of the nation's private wealth, while the bottom 90% owns only 28%. The survey goes on to even starker numbers: the top 1% of all households owns 37% of all the wealth, while the bottom 90% owns but 28%…which is to say that the top 1% owns more…9% more…than the bottom 90%.
Now you Republicans want a top rate of 25%…and then make it "revenue neutral"…translation… no real changes, like limiting the mortgage interest deduction which now allows the wealthy their most prized deduction allowing them to offset millions via mortgage interest…then cash it in…downsize and retire with… no capital gain… on the sale of their multimillion dollar properties. Watch for this deduction survive any and all others.
April 5th, 2011
12:51 pm
By the way, the health care law that went into effect last year will EXPAND consumer choices.
Today, parents of children with pre-existing conditions have the ability to purchase health insurance for their children—a choice many of them didn't have before health care reform law was passed. When the health insurance exchanges come online, all Americans will have tremendously expanded choices in both breadth and cost of health care coverage—choices that our representatives in Washington currently have and have had for a long time.
So, when government control over consumer choice expands consumer choice, then yes, I'm for that too. The increased competition by way of the health insurance exchanges should increase competition for affordable premiums too. More supply drives down prices. Again, that's the pro-capitalism position.
April 5th, 2011
12:57 pm
Roots for shutdown
Well said….but common sense is not common with those on the "Right".
Take the time to read this interview then pass it on.
April 5th, 2011
12:57 pm
"One side says the way to slow rising health-care costs is to give government more control over the industry and consumer choices. The other side says the way to slow rising health-care costs it to make health care work like every other functioning market in human history, which means consumers have to respond to price signals.
No prizes for guessing which side is which.
When you mention…give government more control over the industry and consumer choices, I know you're meaning Democrats. But Republicans should be included in that as well. Republicans say they believe and want smaller government, but at the same time they want to be in doctors' offices of every pregnant woman to be sure she can't have an abortion. Isn't that government control. Republicans want to be in every marriage, defining who can and cannot get married. They want government to take away workers' rights but busting up unions. They actually want smaller government with respect to business but much larger government when it comes to individuals.
April 5th, 2011
1:00 pm
Dems and Repubs are the same monster in different clothing. They would cut off their noses to spite their face and wouldn't even spit on you if you were on fire. They are more concerned with how their constituents perceive them, rather than how they can best represent their constituents. As long as we, the voters, continue voting status quo, we will get status quo.
And get us the hell out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya. That'll save a couple $$ trillion
April 5th, 2011
1:00 pm
Not the one-time huge bailout that president Bush (and a Democrat congress) passed in 2008.
And the one the Republican Lead Senate passed — it seems you conveniently forgot that part……
April 5th, 2011
1:01 pm
Yeah GOP Literally, republicans have been trying to cut spending for everything but the military, 'small businesses', the top 1%, and big oil. Why would you NOT believe that they would increase subsidies (spending) for health care consumers?
When they say shared sacrifice, they mean us not them. And I like Paul Ryan, he's not off his rocker like the rest of his party. I'm just wise enough to know by the time the rest of his party 'tweaks' his so-called framework, it won't resemble what it looks like today. Sure, Wingfield will blame dems but we all know who the GOP represents and who will be exempt from the shared sacrifice.
April 5th, 2011
1:02 pm
We must stop the give away programs for foreign Government programs FIRST..before we take one thing away from an AMERICAN…PERIOD or Rand is going to feel the wrath of the LEFT from all angles…we must also put a VAT or tariff on all Chinese imports.
April 5th, 2011
1:03 pm
Kyle, if you believe this spin then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I want to sell you.
April 5th, 2011
1:09 pm
I think you are at least half right, we cannot cut too much on the military( it is the only expenditure the Constitution really allows for) with our money going to build the best military in the world…CHINA.
If we don't cut NOW and we keep paying China to build the weapons of our destruction this will all be academic.
April 5th, 2011
1:10 pm
Frankly Kyle I'm amazed that the repubs even WANT to do anything about the deficit they created. When there was republicans up and down the 3 branches (pres., house, sen.); they spent like drunken sailors on leave with their grannies credit cards. We've seen what they did with Medicaire Part "D"; we've seen how they reacted to the Terri Schiavo debacle, we've seen how they've governed by fear and intimidation (Rove et. al); we've seen them out a CIA operative because her husband didn't want to kiss their azzes; but NOW you want us to believe that they've "reformed"? HA!
PS: Anyone ever find those WMD's?
April 5th, 2011
1:12 pm
–"And it rolls back expensive handouts for uncompetitive sources of energy, calling instead for a free and open marketplace for energy development, innovation and exploration."
I wonder if the plan will also roll back the billions in corporate welfare for the "competitive" sources of energy, i.e. the oil companies. That would move toward a "free and open" marketplace and help level the playing field for the "uncompetitive" technologies. And on that subject, I would prefer a small investment in developing those "uncompetitive" home-grown technologies rather than continuing to send billions overseas to countries that don't seem to like us very much. All the money we send away to buy oil from the Middle East could have a great stimulating effect on our economy while employing a large number of people in a new energy industry.
April 5th, 2011
1:15 pm
You are wrong on most of your points…The deficit under Obama dwarfs ALL the years of Bush and on the WMD's they were brought back very close to here in Alabama and destroyed…they just didn't need to tell everybody what was going on for obvious reasons…national defense.
April 5th, 2011
1:15 pm
I agree with Cutty that Paul Ryan comes across as more of a centrist. The problem is the Tea Party doesn't like "compromise" in any form and they are controlling the GOP right now. The interview I posted a link to @ 12:57 with former conservative Republican Representative Bob Inglis says it all.
Read that interview with Mr Inglis…one of your own, and tell me the moderates in the GOP are not in trouble.
April 5th, 2011
1:19 pm
I'm sorry people, but the times for being timid about this problem has past and our ship is about to sail away into the sunset if we DON'T do something BIG NOW.
April 5th, 2011
1:23 pm
Big D, Defense spending is almost 20% of the federal budget. Instead of spending more than the next 22 country's combined spend on their militaries, I would still feel safe if we only spent more than the next 17. What with repubs and the NRA wanting you to pack heat in churches, bars, daycare, and nursing homes, we already have a homegrown militia.
April 5th, 2011
1:27 pm
Big D – A) so how do you know if they didn't tell anyone? B.) why would anyone take highly volatile and radioactive missiles and projectiles, transport them across the water, and detonate them HERE on american soil? Just asking……..
April 5th, 2011
1:28 pm
Big D, China may have the biggest military but it certainly is not the best. Israel probably has the best all-around military in the world.
Wait….that was bought by us too.
April 5th, 2011
1:29 pm
Retired Early,
Thanks for the link. It was interesting to read that South Carolina Republican Bob Inglis opposed the Tea Party on Christian principles—not bearing false witness and not doing anything on your property that damages your neighbor's property. He also made a strong free enterprise argument for supporting a carbon tax over cap-and-trade.
About Paul Ryan, I agree that he seems centrist. But his proposal is not. What he actually wants to do is repeal the health care law, slash Medicaid and privatize Medicare. It would leave more Americans uninsured than the status quo does. Ryan essentially yanks health-care insurance away from various groups of people, pockets the savings and calls it a day.


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Arrrrrgggggghhhh! Hardcore! Right? Well, maybe not so much with descender. These guys all wear glasses. They all have beards (none out of control, all tamed). They're graphic designers. They drive Zipcars to shows, for Chrissakes.
The band's name comes from the typographic term for the spacing below a headline. Don't worry, I didn't get it at first either. I thought it was more along the lines of Descender = one who is descending into hell. And the band may be doing just that—because it mixes metal with hardcore like many in the history of loud New York music, but it isn't about violence or being macho. These guys are into typography. "That makes it fun. You know, we get to talk about types a lot in between songs. We dork out a bit," says guitarist and vocalist Angelo Pournaras.
If I've learned anything from my heroes of early-1980s hardcore, it's that it doesn't matter what you are or what you look like, it's what the music sounds like. Descender is a geeky band with a geeky name. But when you listen to the group's songs, you won't be able to tell. The band doesn't have that Dead Kennedys whine and doesn't do funny love songs like the Descendents. Like those bands, however, there is intelligence in Descender's loudness.
Pournaras met Eric Palmerlee at a bar in 2000, the first day he came to the city from Georgia, and they started playing together soon after. "Angelo and I would practice at my apartment in headphones with both our guitars plugged into my computer, and my roommate would walk by and we'd go, 'dude, you don't even know how heavy this is,'" says Palmerlee.
Pournaras soon invited his friend Jay Morris to play bass, and the three started jamming in the East Village with a drum machine. Needing a non-robotic drummer, the guys put out an ad on Craigslist and found George Manolis. It was a perfect fit the first time they met. "What do you do for a living? 'Oh I'm a graphic designer?' Oh yeah? Done," recalls Morris.
Descender played its first show at Lit Lounge in 2008 and released a six-song, self-titled EP last summer.
From the first 30 seconds of the record's first song, "Spit and Stare," you can hear a lot of '90s post-hardcore. You know the drill—the song runs through six very different guitar riffs before falling away for a bass/drum verse. The band works with the sounds of the late '80s and early '90s, you know, when all the kids from the early days of hardcore started new bands and worked on crafting songs that weren't all three chords. And while a lot of bands like to go back to that time, descender remembers bands like Quicksand, Snapcase, Helmet and the mighty Fugazi. Descender constructs melodic songs without losing the hardcore killer instinct. And the best part of Descender is that it sounds like a classic hardcore band, but the music is never verse-chorus-verse. The line "This will end!" in "Breaking" could easily pass for a classic hardcore mantra, while the main riff sounds like something out of Steve Albini's brain with metal Kung-Kungs breaking it up.
"For a while I felt that Brooklyn bands all sounded the same, but now I'm starting to feel that there's a lot of diversity," says Pournaras.
This is the sentiment of many louder bands in Kings County. For years the DIY scene was something to envy, but a lot of the bands sucked. Now, some of the heavier bands are using the scene to bring about a third wave of New York hardcore that's about letting off steam with the chops to back it up. Descender plays DIY bars like Tommy's Tavern in Greenpoint or Bushwick's Party Expo with bands like Tournament, Pygmy Shrews and Vagina Panther.
In January, Descender released Live at the Mercury Lounge, eight songs the guys recorded themselves onto a minidisc player. It's got a lot of songs from the self-titled EP, but the band is definitely better live. On "And So We Marched," Morris and George prove to be as important to the band as the dueling guitars up front. The song is essentially the band's sole slow groove song, and it's a sign that melodic hardcore not only ain't dead, it's being reborn. Or, if you're going by the image on the album's cover, it's being ripped from the womb. Either way, the typography is pretty good—if you're into that sort of thing.
>> Descender
Aug. 5, Lit Lounge, 93 2nd Ave. (betw. E. 5th & E. 6th Sts.), 212-777-7987; 9, $TBA.


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This morning when I woke up I had This Must be the Place by the Talking Heads playing on a loop in my brain. I honestly think David Byrne is a genius and this is one of the best love songs I have ever heard. Then I went to Youtube and listened to the many ways people have covered the song. Why am I blogging these videos? Mostly so I can find them later but I hope you like them as much as I did. I am pretty sure I have posted at least one of these before but you can't really expect brilliant new content all the time, can you?
First, the master himself who uses strings on this version rather than the traditional floor lamp.
More versions of the song after the break.
Next Arcade Fire, who used an interesting steel drum twist.
Ok the elementary schools kids from PS 22 usually make me smile but I am not sure this song works for them. Sorry kids. It is probably best for you to stick to Coldplay. I will say the girl who does the solo kills even though the words seem incongruous coming from a child.
My favorite cover of This Must be The Place is by Kyp Malone. His vocal is inspired and his beard is a thing of beauty. I love listening to music in small intimate clubs and I wish I was sitting at a table in the front when this was recorded.
"Its gonna be what it is gonna be." Truer words were never spoken Kyp.
The best love song of all time
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- jayjayzifanwe said...
best love song is swept away by christopher cross
- July 28, 2011 at 12:47 AM
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Your brain has the potential to remember everything you have ever experienced, read, heard and seen. The only problem is you can't recall it, but it's all in there somewhere.
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Calgary Farmers market
It was my first time there this weekend and I left with lots of good stuff. What are some peoples favorite places or things to get while at the Calgary farmer's market?
re: diamondintherough
Vital Green Farms cream from Blush Lane Organics. Lund's Farm carrots are the cripest and most flavorful in season.
Sylvan Star Gouda - medium to aged - from the Sylvan Star Cheese booth in back.
Swiss Chicken Pie - Simple Simon Pies
Lemon tart & frozen croissants - Ladybug
Diamond- I am with you on Tutti Fruiti, in fact I'd say they have the best gelato, bar none, in Calgary. Their tiramisu flavour is as good as the best in Vancouver, much richer than Fiasco and better prices than Amato.
But this is the thing- after the owner (who is a WONDERFUL PERSON) and I were chatting about coffee (they're from Colombia after all) she tells me that her husband is a magician with espresso, so I buy one, and it is just disgusting. Pull for a double was maybe 4 seconds, gushing diarrhea espresso, the worst imaginable- I threw it in the garbage. Another visit I notice the fratello signs (they get beans from fratello, a good Calgary roaster who supplies Good Earth) has a pic of latte art, so I ask if they do that there- and she assures me that her magician-barista hubby does "all sorts" of latte art. I have a very hard time believing this since I got one of the worst espressos of my life there, but you mention their moccaccinos, so did I just have a bad accident there? And do they do latte art at this gelato place, because they sure as hell seem to have given up any pretense of quality at Bit O Beans- last time I was there, their espresso machine (a beautiful Elektra Moderne) was "broken."
OH, at the market I LOVE the Ukrainian food stand!!!
re: John Manzo
John - Tutti Frutti is no Caffe Artigiano, which is where I go whenever I'm in Vancouver for some top-notch espresso and the latte art of which you speak. I personally enjoy their mochas when I'm wandering around on a cold winter day, but would not recommend them to a true coffee conoisseur, and although I think they have the best coffee drinks in the market I wouldn't drive all the way there for one. I've never seen anything particuarly fancy in terms of art being done there either..
re: diamondintherough
Bit o Beans has better sourced coffee (they use Big Mountain, same as Bumpy's and Cafe Koi, two places the do latte art), so it disappointing to see how uneven they are. I think the market can use a REALLY good coffee purveyor just as there is a brilliant JJ Bean at Granville Island Mkt in Vancouver.
I was just asking because what I got at Tuttti was so terrible, I mean TERRIBLE, when their gelato is so spectacular!
re: John Manzo
Debbie and Henry are fantastic people.
My dog loves the pet bakery at the market too...Bon a Pet Treat...love the name : )
I love the cranberry pecan bread from the bread booth. Unfortunately if you go after noon on Saturday there's never any left.
Veggie Currie Pies from Simple Simon Pies
Chocolate Croissants from Ladybug
The cabbage rolls, and everything else at European Home Cooking, aka ukrainian booth is awesome. Go see Dan and Megan, then finish off with a lemon tart from Ladybug. A perfect weekend lunch.
I shop the Calgary Farmers Market every Friday morning for my weekly treats and couldn't agree more. It is just the best shopping in Calgary. First stop is always milk and butter from Vital Green Farms at Blush Lane. Then Lund carrots. Around to Sylvan for cheese cheese cheese. I live a block from Janice Beaton but I have to say, I buy most of my cheese here. I agree with John Manzo that the Ukranian booth is one of the best stops. Love their seafood salad. Also love the soup from the Stock and Soup Company. I recently started buying roasted organic chickens - pricey but worth it! And speaking of pricey, I bought a whole lobster last week flown in fresh and was it every good. A couple of very cute young men have just started up their own business bringing in lobster, mussels, prawns etc from the east coast every week. For special occassions only!
Sometimes the farmer's market can be expensive, so you have to really know what you're buying. My favs and reasonable:
Valta bison - freezer steaks (rib eye especially)
Greek Gals - tszatiki
Sylvan Star Gouda
BC Fruit from the Cherry Pit
Cucumbers from the stand across from Cookbook Company stall (can't remember their name)
re: eateat
Gull Valley Green Houses...best tomatoes and eggplants in town
re: eateat
Yup, how could I forget about those? Oh, and the beans...if you can find any
re: nutellaluvr
I like Gull Valley, particularly their tomatoes & beans however 'The Cucumber Man' also has excellent mini cukes and bell peppers. I also buy fresh basil from them quite often, and just picked up some of their pesto - it's absolutely fabulous - the jar got emptied in under a week.
re: maplesugar
Thanks for the tip maplesugar, I will try the Cucumber Man for the basil. I usually get fresh basil up at the italian Store ($2 or so for a rather generous bag), but CFM would be more convenient!
Note my discussion in late feb about how the market could use a top-notch coffee place? Well, my prayers are being answered- the former Bit O Beans space is being taken over by Phil and Sebastian, www.philsebastian.com. These fellows sell what some consider the best beans in North America- Hines Public Market in Vancouver (formerly of Seattle, Hines moved its operations to Vancouver maybe a year ago). Phil+Sebastian are supposed to open this weekend but we'll see. In any case, this is exciting news for the coffee "community" in Calgary and for the market.
re: John Manzo
Wow that is exciting news!
I must agree with diamondintherough that Caffe Artigiano always serves up a beautiful cup of joe. Simply best cup of coffee I have ever found in all my travels. It is always my first stop when I get to Van, and I just can't get enough of there vanilla latte!
As for the market:
The little mexican booth makes a killer salsa verde.
Eve at Ladybug is a true master of the pastry. all his wares are amazing, and nothing impresses at a brunch like his hot fresh wholewheat organic croissants . (frozen to bake at home)
The bison from Valta has spurred my once lost now found love of red meat.
The Quebec booth, on and off has maple sugar pies! THE REAL DEAL! they are to die for!
Cookbook Co has all the in betweens you need.
And Sylvan Star for crackers and cheese!
re: John Manzo
Awww yeah. Bit O Beans sucked. I can't wait.
re: John Manzo
Where in Vancouver is Hines Public Market? The one in Seattle was in the Eastlake district was it not? I used to enjoy Torrefazione coffee, but Starbucks purchased the franchise and ended up closing most if not all of the cafe's.
re: canucks1619
Hines doesn't have a caffe in Vancouver- but you can get their beans at several places; the one I know pretty well is Cafe O in Yaletown (Opus Hotel). Every shot there is a god shot, amazing coffeehouse.
EDITED because I just saw on coffeegeek.com that Cafe O has closed :(
but what the heck, I can get hines in Calgary now :)
There is a 'tomato' guy that attends in the summer months. There are a number of varieties to choose from and they taste amazing!!!
re: tubtub
I think the tomato guy you are referring to may be named Milan and he's from Kelowna. His Sungold tomatos are some of the best tomatos I have ever had
re: canucks1619
Help guys - I need to find out if the Farmers Mkt is open this Good Friday --- does anyone know ? They have the BEST Hot Cross buns there and I forgot to buy last weekend ! The mkt website says nothing.
BTY -- I am a LOVER of butter tarts and pumpkin pie and the absolute best of both is the shop at the end, in the middle facing the food court, you know, the place that has samples of goodies ....
Also, my good friend Angela just had to close her coffee shop (Tumblebeans on 14th St SW, by 26th Ave. The building was bought and after 11 yrs. she was pushed our with no where to go. She is Italian and she insisted on great beans and she made the best espressos, lattes, whatever ..... because she made them to order - when you came in regularly she knew what you wanted without asking and made it exactly to perfection - each person's perfection !! AAahhh.... we miss Tumblebeans SO much, not JUST the coffee and Angela & Gerald but all the other regulars. You just don't find coffee shops like that anymore. We tried Cadence in Bowness and a few others but not the same - Sat. afternoons everyone was talking to everyone. We didn't know their last names or sometimes even their first but everyone would chat and enjoy the company AND the coffee!!!
That's my first post and I've got out quite a bit - PLEASE need to know about Gd Fri mkt hours - if open !!
re: 1stephanie
I am 99% certain the market is open Good Friday.
re: 1stephanie
I agree with John. I was there this weekend & there was a sign saying that they are open on Friday.
re: 1stephanie
They are always open fridays before holiday weekends.
But if I may suggest, there is a new bakery on Elbow Drive and about 90ave S.W. called COBBS and they have beautiful hot cross buns year round. I tried there blueberry twisted bread, which was to die for, so moist with a simple sugar/egg wash glaze. mmmm.
re: CookieGal
Do you mean COBS?
Yep- 7610 Elbow Drive. I'd heard they were expanding to Alberta (apparently already 4 in Edmonton)- and ugh, every single location is in the damn suburbs. If they can open on Davie in Vancouver and on Bloor St in the Annex in Toronto why do they have to open in the 'burbs here?
I got one of those hot cross buns when I stopped in the one in the Annex I just mentioned- it was very, very delicious.
re: John Manzo
coming from vancouver, i was very excited to hear that cobbs had arrived - but in the burbs? my boss was talking to the owners and they said that's where they will be expanding to as well - nothing downtown yet, only more locations in the burbs....very disappointing. this city needs more cafes, groceries, bakeries, butchers, etc downtown!!
re: pants
Well 17th does have eiffel tower and rustic sourdough, not to mention buttercream bake shoppe and, soon, a second location for crave cupcakes. Oh, and euro bakery, which makes the best bureks- they're albanian and are sort like a pizza, hard to describe, nothing close to the ones they sell at crossroads.
Having said all that, cobs is an interesting chain and it would be nice to see them somewhere inner city- how about kensington getting a decent bakery?
re: John Manzo
i guess i'll just have to wait for the giant sunterra market to open in the keynote project. co-op on 11th is pretty good, but we find we have to drive for any specialty groceries. kensington would be a great place for a cobs! it would also be great if the farmers market was open more days!!
re: John Manzo
Don't forget that just on the end of 17th (on MacLeod and 14th) is Manuel Latruewe as well. And on 10th across from MEC is Decadent Desserts.
I've been to several Cobs in Edmonton several times - and they are decent. I like that they are open late, and open all the time. But there's better bakeries imo.
re: John Manzo
Oh John... don't you think you downtown folks get all the goods? I'm tickled that there is a cool bakery in my burbs! I wish there was more, we are innondated with chain store out in the burbs, and I often (always) have to treck downtown, or North for more cultural shopping. All the above mentioned bakeries have there 2 or 3 key items they excel at... but we are really lacking an all encompasing bakery cafe in this city.
remeber the Breadline? that little place had potential. what we need is a rebirth of that sit down and enjoy some warm carbs, with a great cup of coffee, socialize, and take some treats home.
re: CookieGal
Well, I think this is a bit of a compromise since it's not exactly in Okotoks. And yeah, the burbs deserve good things, but seeing as Cobs is clearly- in other cities- committed to urban storefronts, I find it a bit of a slap in the face when new chains open here that have been in and thrived in urban settings in other cities (witness Fatburger- NOBODY lives walking distance from Deerfoot Meadows! But where was their first location in Vancouver? Why, on Denman in the heart of the west end!) and head straight for sites way, way out of the core or its surrounding area. I want to see both- the suburbs need a break from chain ennui but good chains like Cobs should serve an urban market too just as they do in Toronto or Vancouver.
Breadline? Before my time- I moved here in 2000.
re: John Manzo
Just to drive John Manzo crazy, COBS is opening up in WestHills and Crowfoot next :)
re: Shazam
That's actually not so bad for me- the LRT is being extended to crowfoot, and westhills is a heck of a lot easier for me to get to than is Elbow Dr and just about anything!
Thought gilchrist was writing about Phil and Sebastian for this week's column- maybe next week's I guess...
re: John Manzo
I got some Phil and Sebastian coffee this weekend for home - yummy!
my only complaint is that they didn't want to grind it for me...i don't have a coffee grinder - they did it in the end but....
re: higgika
i've bought coffee since the first time and they were much more accommodating - they said the only reason they may have been hesitant was because it's better to do it at the time of brewing.
re: Shazam
COBS normally starts out in suburban parts of cities then eventually opens in more central parts. There is nothing creative about COBS though, its production is done by portion control, much like Moxies, the Keg, Kelsey's and others that many on here were complaining about. So if COBS does not open up in the DT area or the inner city I will not be upset
re: canucks1619
I noticed that there is a Cobs Bakery going in at Westhills mall. It is just at the beginning of construction on the space so it will be a little while. It is going in between Shoppers Drug Mart and the UPS store - where the old Rocks (fake diamond jewelery) store was located.
i think i'm done with the market - i just got back from another miserable experience. let's see, it was already packed by 10am (don't people work?), more than one person stepped on me, i got tripped by a giant baby stroller and my wallet is empty....
i just paid $11 for 4 tomatoes and a few beans - huh!?! yes, they are local and yes, they are good quality - but seriously $11?!!?!!!!!
apparently there isn't a recession in calgary, if we are lined up to pay a fortune for fruits and vegetables (most of which aren't even local yet)
granville island and traditional farmer's markets do NOT cost that much - for $11 I'd walk away with at least one FULL bag of fruits and vegetables probably two. and the real farmers' markets were always very inexpensive.
OK, my rant is over - but someone give me a good reason for accepting this kind of pricing? i've found plenty of good, local produce at co-op for a fraction of the price.
re: pants
actually, i found granville pretty expensive last time i was there, especially given that bc supermarkets seem a lot cheaper than our safeways. having said that, co-sign on everything you had to say about the cfm. I'll be sticking to chongo's and the other stalls at the crossroads.
re: pants
Pants, I hear ya... I still remember the time at little farmer's market on Vancouver Island, I brought a huge basket of veggies up to the till and wasn't paying attention as the girl rung them in... I handed over my debit and she said "um, I have to charge you an extra 25 cents when the total is under five dollars."
I still shop at the Calgary farmer's market for the experience, but for deals I go to Chongo's and some of the other vendors at Crossroads.
re: pants
I stopped buying groceries there when the woman in front of me in line bought an organic chicken, a handful of veggies and a few pieces of fruit for her kids to munch on while they finished shopping for a grand total of $69 and change! Eariler that day it also cost me over $30 for the ingerdients to make burchetta.
re: pants
I hear you pants. I like supporting local producers but the prices there sheesh Have the prices gone up or has my wallet shrunk?
My daughter just got back from a school field trip to Hotchkiss. While I love their produce I'm not nuts about the premium retailers are charging. I think I'll be going on a few field trips this summer and finding my way to farms gate sales.
re: maplesugar
dont know if you have used this interactive "gate sales" map but thought I'd post the link anyways..
its not the most user friendly but its a great way to find local growers.
re: Shazam
I'm pretty happy eating "garbage" like Gull Valley's tomatoes.
re: 23skidoo
Hey, whatever floats your boat. Gull Valley tomatoes are one step up from grocery store tomatoes.
Places like Gull Valley have the exact same problem that grocery stores have - how to move product from where it's grown to where it's sold without it falling apart. Therefore, they need to grow thick skinned tomatoes with a high gelatinous content (basically, they've bred out the juice and replaced it with the gelatin that's around the seeds). I grow some tomatoes that can barely make it from the garden to the kitchen because they're so thin skinned and so full of actual juice.
I've bought Gull Valley tomatoes, and well, they're better than the typical grocery store's, if that's really saying much. Not to mention their outrageous prices.
re: Shazam
Gelatin comes from within animal's ( human foodwise usually pigs & cattle) skin and bones.
Don't think there is any gelatin in tomatoes!!!!
re: graemejw
touche! Methinks some do protest too much.
re: graemejw
Shazam is right according to the good scientists at UC Davis, it is a gelatinous membrane.
Just got my curiosity up so I did a couple of searches. Tomatoes are also a fruit (ok most of us knew that) in fact a berry, AND is also the ovary of a flowering plant. Just thought I'd add that "ovary" part so it runs through everyone's mind when they eat a tomato!
re: Scary Bill
"gelatinous" doesn't mean "made of gelatine." No vegetable has "gelatine."
re: John Manzo
Gelatinous means having the qualities of gelatin.
And yes there are vegetable gelatins, but I will leave it up to your research abilities to discover which ones.
re: graemejw
Gelatinous = gelatin-like. Too hard to understand?
re: Shazam
I am game for home grown Tomatoes.
re: Shazam
Completely disgree. I've had some of the best tomatoes of my life from Gull Valley.
re: John Manzo
Feel free to come over and you can have some of mine.
re: John Manzo
Is Gull Valley no longer at the CFM?...I could not find them last week.
Not only do they have great tomatoes, The fresh Habeneros are the best in the city!
re: Major_9000
Gull Valley is there seasonally, I'd say they'll be back about the end of the month.
re: maplesugar
my favorite thing there is Klaus' sausages. pure meat, no filler. the best sausages i think i've found in calgary. the woman that sells chicken sausages at the farmaers market at northland are good too, but i prefer kalus' cause they are more traditional.
My favorite stall is Sylvan Star cheese where you can't go wrong with any of the choices. There are a variety of good meat venues but I usually pick up sausages which are of good quality at Old Country. If you like meat pies try the Swiss chicken and the ham,onion at Simple Simon. Stay away from the Shepherds pie which tends to fall apart to mush in the microwave. The Going Nuts vendor has a wide selection of nuts and seeds that I add to baking or my morning cereal, and I like that they have small sizes so I can use them before they get stale. I can't recommend the fruit and produce as I find it mostly overpriced. Crossroads Market,especially Chongos, fits the bill for that when they bring in Okanagan and local stuff in the summer.
Am I the only one who dreads waling past that NE corner where you have to do the "No I don't want a taster of you pies" gauntlet, ya probably I am. Wish I could get a no thanks to the pie button to wear.
re: Fid
Better order a dozen of those buttons! Horrible, horrible pies. I frequent the CFM every week. Yes it is expensive. Yes I hate those stupid big strollers -- what's wrong with making kids walk these days? It tires them out! But yet I go every week to see whats new, poke around, get a good cappucino at Phil & Sebatistian's. Grazing Acres is my favorite haunt right now. The best jumbo eggs and chickens are even better than Sunworks (sorry Sunworks I bought yours for 2 years!). And tomatoes -- you can't get good ones at regular grocery stores (i.e. Safeway/Co-op etc.) so thats what keeps me going back. I hate the prices too but I am addicted to good igredients!
re: lynnrb
i've had reasonably good luck at downtown co-op with decent tomatoes - i noticed the nice yellow ones (alberta grown) yesterday.
the only thing that will get me back is an extreme craving for butter tarts(i haven't found better ones) - soon phil & sebastian will be open in marda loop so that will solve that :)
re: lynnrb
I feel I must defend the pies....I like the quiches. They are quick and the spinach feta is really tasty. I also must say that asking an 18month old walk in that crowd doesn't work, thus the stroller.
I appreciate that this is a forum for people to air their opinions but I don't see why people have to attack people who are at different places in their lives (i.e. with strollers). Maybe I'm just a pansy but I always try to think the best of people & not be mean when you haven't met me (or any of the other mothers with strollers)!
re: Merry113
I have no problem with strollers as long as the drivers are careful. They are getting a bit big but that just means more care is needed.
I also like some of the pies but I don't like having a sample pushed on me when I just want to walk past. That corner is just mad.
re: Merry113
Until recently I was one of those Moms with a big stroller too(Valco). I have 3 kids 7, 4, and just turned 3. When the kids were smaller I wouldn't have been able to carry the groceries, a-n-d have a hand on the 4yo and 3yo. Youngest went up front in the stroller, groceries got the back seat and 4yo "helped" me push. Always mindful not to park said stroller in the middle of already crowded aisles and yielded to faster moving customers.
The now 3yo is a "big boy" doesn't want to sit (who can blame him) so we tend to take up more space than the stroller... youngest two each holding a hand and groceries and purse slung on my shoulders. It was easier to er herd them when both hands weren't full. :D
re: Merry113
I'm with you on the pies! I like the Swiss Chicken & Jamaican Beef. And I've been a Dad at that stage in life too!
re: lynnrb
Yes another convert to Grazing Acres! Their lamb is also incredible but it's not always available. Try their bacon next time as well, combined with their great eggs its a real breakfast treat.
re: slingshotz
Yep, had the bacon...bagel bacon is good for my teens who like doing the breakfast sandwich thing. Hey stroller mamas-- don't get so uptight! I had 4 kids under 6 at one point and I dragged those kids everywhere with me so believe me I understand the logistics of shopping with kids. So I am not by any means unsympathetic. Its just that some strollers like the ones that have the big wheels that are meant for running paths are too big for narrow spaces with lots of people. I had a twin stroller but this was kept for mall visits and walking in the neighborhood and I kept a smaller umbrella type stroller for busy places. Anyway, this forum isn't about strollers and I didn't even start that topic so don't hate. Back to food!
I agree with the general concensus that the market is getting way too crowded and overpriced. Plus I had a bad experience with "Simple Simon" and stopped buying from him years ago -- his pies ain't all that.
I'm finding beautiful campari tomatoes from Windset Farms at Costco that are almost as good as Gull Lake and at half the price -- which is important as I have 4 kids. They are grown without pesticides as well like Gull Lake's. I can also find quite a bit of local produce during the summer/fall at Amaranth which is somewhat cheaper than CFM. I still go to CFM with the kids for fun and will buy a few things, but have stopped going religiously once a week like I once did.
I have found a good time to go is around 4:00 pm on Sunday, maybe it's sheer luck, but it wasn't too crowded. Plus I found Blush Lane marks down their fresh chickens by about 20% by that time as well.
re: sweeterpea
I agree that the market is a bit overpriced... the one reason I go there is actually the stall that sells maple products from Quebec. I LOVE their maple and blueberry pies.
But the crowding is horrible. When I do go down I usually go for the instant they open and get out after about an hour. Which saves my wallet too. :)
re: sweeterpea
Actually, 4:00pm on Sunday is probably a bad time to go as the market closes at 4 on Sundays. It's open till 5pm on Fridays and Saturdays, but closes at 4 on Sundays.
Good tip about the Windset Farms tomatoes. While the large majority of the produce are absolutely fantastic at the market, there are several stalls selling inferior goods and using the fact that they are situated within a farmer's market as a cover to it.
I don;t even mind the pies but have never been a fan of in your face marketing, I'm a shy person and don;t want unnecessary chit chat. I actually feel bad to turn someone down so I avoid the situation.
Also, I am the guy with the Valco stroller, but I am the guy trying to chase my wife who is scurrying around touching everything, I usually end up waiting outside in a huff (at the wife) due to the fun involved in navigating the market and trying to keep that #$%^^&% stroller out of people's way. and yes the child is much less annoying in that boat than me trying to control him wirelessly with a broken remote control.
Gull Valley tomatoes and the coffee from Phil & Sebastian Coffee Co. As you can see, Farmers Market is a great start to a Sunday.
Just wanted to let everyone know CFM has expanded their Christmas hours:
From the Missing Link Sausage Co hours are as follows:
Friday, December 18th – 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Saturday, December 19th – 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Sunday, December 20th – 9:00 am – 4:00 pm
Monday, December 21st – CLOSED
Tuesday, December 22nd – 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
Wednesday, December 23rd – 9:00 am – 5:00 pm
The market is then closed Dec 24-Jan 7, back to their regular schedule again Friday January 8th
re: maplesugar
That's awesome that they're open on the Tuesday and Wednesday. I can do my grocery shopping a little closer to Christmas. Thanks maplesugar!
Forgot how overpriced the market is. Spent 18 bucks on a crappy cornish pastie that was not good at all and a small steak pie, which was actually pretty good....but not THAT good. Also it seems to be lots of people selling stuff for other people rather than the producer selling directly to the consumer. Didn't see many farmers either.
re: greenboy
Not everything there is overpriced- far, far from it in fact.
re: John Manzo
got any tips on the non overpriced?any secret deals?
re: howlin
No secrets but eg blood oranges are cheaper that at safeway. I know there are better deals at eg crossroads. I'm just getting tired of all the CFM bashing that goes on on this board.
re: John Manzo
maybe some of the bashing is justified.it is overly expensive for what you get ,although there are things there(creton) that i just have to bite the bullet on.but more and more people are starting to see the fact that most of it is a ripoff and better of retreating and regrouping.then beating a dead horse.how can you honestly argue for higher prices?mabye cause they are close to you?the setup sucks(no parking,confusing streets,)no farmers ,everybody there it seems sells other peoples stuff at a huge increase.let it die so theycan start over again with a new found sense of honor and truth .anybody who has been to crossroads will know ,although even there its getting pricey, but if people are willing to pay then they are gonna raise prices.i think the cfm was a bad influence on actual (real) farmers markets.let the dog die already so we(those who want real food at real value)can get something worthwhile cfm rip
we are in utter love with the bread at the back wall vendor sorry do not know the name as we are from edmonton and only fleetingly get to the market at curry banks. anyhow the fig anise and the wild rice green onion are to die for!