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The Great Debate
Bailout for automakers?
As Congress debates legislation to help struggling automakers, many Americans say they are uneasy with the plan, arguing that while it may save jobs, it would reward companies for pursuing bad business practices. Some even question whether automakers will be viable, even with support.
"They need to restructure. If they get bailed out they are not going to do it," said Eric Smith, a paint contractor interviewed in Chamblee, Georgia, on the outskirts of Atlanta.
U.S. automakers say federal aid is vital to their survival, and there could be devastating ramifications for the broader economy if the sector is not stabilized.
"This is an issue of the whole auto industry, if that becomes under severe pressure, the impact on the whole U.S. economy will be devastating," GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said in an appearance on a NBC-affiliated television station in Detroit.
Retired Gen. Wesley Clark says that a rescue of U.S. automakers is important both economically and for national security. In a New York Times opinion piece, Clark wrote that the U.S. auto industry has played an important role in successive military campaigns, from World War II to today, and its ability to continue to develop new technologies is imperative for national security.
Some are calling for executive shake-ups if it would ensure congressional backing for a bailout. "If it was the difference between getting this kind of support or not, obviously the management should consider resigning," Carl Levin, a staunch industry ally, said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
As Democrats finalize a rescue plan, the question remains: should U.S. automakers be bailed out?
(Pictured above: G. Richard Wagoner (R), chairman and CEO of General Motors, testifies next to Robert Nardelli (2nd R), chairman and CEO of Chrysler, Alan Mulally (2nd L), President and CEO of Ford Motor Company, and Ron Gettelfinger (L), President of the United Auto Workers union, before the Senate Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs in a hearing on "Examining the State of the Domestic Automobile Industry," on Capitol Hill in Washington, November 18, 2008. REUTERS/Molly Riley)
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Let the Oil Companies bail-out the Big Three. That's who the domestic car makers have been in bed with all these years. Building gas guzzlers that keep us addicted to the oil companies, instead of sensible alternative cars the public wants, like Prius.
Just look who GM sold the patent to it's original electric-car battery…..Chevron, the OIL COMPANY. And that move deprived everyone of electric cars for the last decade. Use oil company profits to bail them out, not taxpayers money.
To Andy
Concerning you comments Posted below…..
People bash domestic because the are mechanically, sylishly, ergonomically and technically inferior.
1) the "fuel efficient" Domestic cars are in-fact
RE-BADGED IMPORTS from asia and korea. Obviously you need to get your facts straight.
2) domestic car makers are selling inferior cars RIGHT NOW…and 20 years ago. How many Chrysler mini-vans need new transmissions in the first year?
3) Gm can't even get it's ridiculous MILD hybrids (what a joke) right, having recalled ALL the batteries in ALL OF THEM.
Let start by balancing our nation's checkbook ! We should immediately start cutting goverment jobs at the national,state and local levels 33%. The benefits, salaries and cola's can not be sustained and should not be sustained at the expense on all of the rest of America's employeed workers. Military spending must be cut dramatically 50%, and we need to close all foreign bases and bring home all military personal, if we have any hope of trying to balance our national debit load.
I feel the big three auto makers should be helped, but how much is the problem. They have set still for too many years on their research and develop on alternative fuels and other unconventional ways to power their vehicles. I know they will say their customers dictate what they build because of the market. But they have been so busy paying their executives and management for non-performance their R&D budgets have suffered.
Some proponents of the "bailout" has said to put restrictions on Executives pay require them to do more research. That was brought up years ago and they resisted because they could sell what they built. They have shown they only care about profit. When hearings are held they will say other wise, they will be lying.
When the Congress started bailing out the financal institutions they started something that will lead to a horrorable recession and possible a depression. The lending institutions have for years made it too easy for businesses and individuals to borrow money. When money is borrowed without proper collateral bad things happen. For many years banks have been lending too high a percentage of the amount needed to buy a home or product and the American cunsumer is spoiled.
A change is needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
the companies should produce some prototypes of green technology and detail plan to get to the green technology before getting a single cent.
The taxpayer should be buying if any at all tangible goods and IP rather than giving away money base on faith that the companies will actually pursue and create green feasible technology. Remember this is not the first time these companies had asked for and received help.
Detroit makes junk cars that get poor milage and turn into a puddle of rust in a few years with prohibited repair costs. Hey Washington! Look at what people are saying in these commemtaries. You will not be re-elected if you don't! John
GM pays their USA workers $73/hour, is not profitable and is asking for a bailout
Toyota pays their USA workers $42/hour, is profitable and is NOT asking for a bailout.
Just think about it …
The problem with auto makers can't be fixed by $25B or any amount. Yet it's as simple as 3 letters – UAW. Unfortunately America can have auto industry or UAW – but not both.
Just think: semi-skilled workers are paid college grad wages with executive level benefits and public sector-like pensions. It was hardly sustainable when the Big 3 had the US market almost exclusively for themselves, and a good chunk of it around the world. The money that could've been spent for R&D went to line the pockets of UAW bosses. Instead of hiring scientists, engineers, and designers, the auto makers had to keep on the payroll the workers of idled plants. The competitors meanwhile were not standing still, cutting in both perceptions of US-built cars as the best, and the market share.
It used to be that foreign car buyers were either too poor or too eccentric. "I can't afford a Chevy" was stamped all over Toyota or VW Beetle – the original one. Caddy and Lincoln were the symbols of luxury and prestige. Mercedes? Only if you must have something no one else on the block does. These days? It's Ford and Chevy screaming "I can't afford a Toyota". The new Beetle is luxury European import. It's Caddy trying to compete against Europeans, and Lincoln largely relegated to limo service and rentals.
Now that the Big 3 are not so big, and their share shrunk, it's not sustainable.
Just think: foreign auto makers are opening new plants, one after another after another, and make good business. What's the difference between Alabama and Detroit? Just one – no unions down there, and the foreign auto makers want to keep it that way. One of the reasons for Daimler to part their ways with Chrysler was the UAW demand to open Mercedes plants to them.
The funniest thing is, one way or another, UAW will die anyway. If they bleed to death the Big 3, they will also go into oblivion because their remaining manufacturing base – Caterpillar and who else? – will be too small to sustain them the way they are. The bailout will just prolong the agony.
The Congress can help. Not by throwing good money after the bad, but by legislating dissolution of UAW. If it could be done to air traffic controllers, it can be done to any union. Yes, the membership will suffer. But if we let UAW to stay, the price will be to high for everyone, including UAW members. If we help the Big 3 to hire hourly workers directly, there will be jobs – not as lucrative, but still decent jobs. There will be benefits – yes, the workers will learn the meanings of HMO, copay, deductible, and coverage limits – just like most of us had to – but still better than no coverage at all. If most of us regular employees can survive with only 10 days of paid time off in a year, the auto workers also will. And the retirees… I feel for them, but they'll have to make do with Social Security and Medicare, just as all non-union retirees do. Anyway it'll happen to them if the industry goes under.
Too bad unions, and especially UAW, are the sacred cow for the Democrats, and Republicans will be in minority for the nearest foreseeable future. But even the Dems will eventually have to decide, if they want to have UAW or the industry. There seems no way to keep both. Just as there's no way to have the cake, and to eat it too.
Speaking of bailouts…how much is iraq costing us? Pocket I mean chump change. Bail out the automakers.
These companies wd be solvent if America had a Federally sponsored, single-payer health insurance system, and a similar basic pension scheme. Although they're behind on developing fuel-efficient vehicles, they're catching up, and they've already improved quality to the point even I'd consider buying. What's killing them is egregious pension and health benefits, the costs of which wd be much lower if the U.S. cd ever drop the albatross of ideological opposition to this so-called 'socialism'. Every other developed country dealt with this sixty years ago. It's bizarre that America ranks 28th in life expectancy in the world, and yet has the highest health care costs per person on the planet.
The US automakers should know how to make a better car but no they just keep on building junk! Hondas' and Toyotas' they are not! Honda is the company that has the highest rate of happy customers in other words they buy Accords over and over again. Even in Arkansas there are many a family reunions where the Accords cover the lawn! Just ask a person who drives a Toyota/Honda and they will tell you that they will buy another one over and over! They offer the highest resale too!
HUM WHY do thousands of Chevy, Ford, and Chrysler dealers go to auctions praying for the chance to buy a used Honda, or Toyota does this tell you something about H& Ts? They last forever with very very little maintenance other than oil changes ect. The US auto makers should go bankrupt instead of asking for bailout money for their poor products and miss management! Ford dealers could not survive without all the shop fees the Fords bring in $$$$s! Ask a Ford man if he has ever had an modular go out- and how many times he has had his car in the shop. I bought a new Corvette once and the rear end went completely out on it on the way to be serviced and with less than 100 miles on the unit! My brother in law bought a New Corvette and believe it or not the door come unhinged and fell off!!!!! A friend of mine has a 70,000 mile Chevrolet SUV with the transmission out on it, he will not buy a GM product again! For pure satisfaction and resale put your money in a H or T and have some fun for a while!!!
I like drfixu's comment earlier today. I understand that the Federal Government employs 1.2+million people. Surely we can cut that by 33% and not miss a lick. Like drfixu, I think we should close ALL military bases outside the US, bring ALL our troops home and let western Europe, maybe France for example, police the world for a change, and thereby cut our military budget by at least 50%. I'm tired of the job, for as the old saying goes, 'no good deed goes unpunished.' Let Sarkosky get the chaos under control and we'll just kick back and criticize for a change.
Since it is not enough to solve the problem and can't effect the eventual demise…I say NO now and save that 25 billion. Each and every Americans portion of our debt is about $175,000 already and its not looking good down the line…use that money to retrain the workers or prolong unemployment benefits or some program to the benefit of the worker only(they were offered $186,000 each for early retirement a few years back weren't they?) Now is the time to be solution oriented and not prolong this to the benefit of who? There are still millions of autos that will need parts and servicing down the line, so many of the suppliers will still be able to continue. Its similar to the housing crisis…the builders want concessions…well why not rehab all that existing inventory instead of building new? Isn't is a supply and demand thing? If they build more now won't that inventory just compete with the existing supply? Decrease the existing supply and the demand will follow. I am puzzled though about how oil got to $140 a couple of months ago and is now $56….did someone locate some lost oil? Finally, I heard Paulson state that the money wasn't needed where they originally intended to put it but I also remember he said the financial system would shut down if it wasn't done that way….well it wasn't done that way and it didn't shut down…maybe we should see what the auto industry bosses can do, those guys are supposed to be the best in the business(being paid as they are)and I think they should be reminded that its their job to locate those billions.
I do NOT favor a taxpayer bailout for the automobile industry. GM and Ford have heard the 'wolf' scratching at the door for years and have done nothing of significance in response. Chrysler simply does not have a place in the automotive future. Technology and design have moved on and GM and Ford are stuck in the mud. The US auto industry failed way back when the future was obvious. The taxpayers of America should NOT be called on to reward ineptitude. Again I do NOT favor a taxpayer bailout of the automobile industry, and particularly the UAW.
These automakers (and also the banks) are businesses, not charities. Why would they need to survive on taxpayer's money when they can't run their businesses efficiently? Lets not forget huge pay packet for some of their Chief Executives who are proven to be very good at extracting huge pay packet for themselves, but not good at all in running businesses. And now, they one bailout from taxpayers' money! What a fuss!!!
I can't imagine giving a bailout to the automakers after they had produced a viable electric car in 1996, the EV-1, and then proceeded to recall and destroy them all in 2003 due to the extremely short-sighted policy of selling more profitable gas-guzzling Sport Utility Vehicles. Imagine how well those electric cars would have weathered high gas prices, or how the technology might have progressed had the program continued.
Although I don't relish the thought of so many workers in the auto industry and related industries losing their jobs, the Automakers most certainly DO NOT deserve a bailout.
The U.S. auto industry has for a long time needed an overhaul. Yes, the economic situation has caused a great deal of losses, but that is not the core problem. The auto industry has not changed its basic business core, even as other major sectors have, realizing that they needed to in order to compete with the global market place. Unfortunately one of the main problems has to do with there workforce. Pay and benefits are still based on times in our past that only 1 person worked in a family and 1 stayed home to raise the kids. A time when the American Dream was running full steam. This is no longer the case and has not been for many decades. The unions have served their purpose to get the workers the best possible, but reality is that this level of pay and benefits are not sustainable. Not in this economy, not even before this collapse. The auto industry has to look long and hard on how to make these companies into something they have not been in a long time, strong, lean, a focus on quality, service,and a very close watch on the current consumer needs and wants, and based in reality.
Unfortunately the only way to make the changes needed in current law and contracts is to file for bankruptcy. With bankruptcy they can do the reorganizing that is greatly needed to transform these companies into the icons they truly are. If the government is to give the auto industry or any industry or company any financial help, they owe it to all tax payers to expect, NO demand the changes needed in order to help them survive now and to prepare them to be able to build their futures and ours, not on sand but on solid ground from the bottom up.
Although taxpayers helping private business is unpallatable to any American, we have to realize that we are in danger of loosing the largest domestic manufacturing base we have. Further, the human, social, and real dollar cost to every one of us of failed domesitc auto companies will absolutely be catastrophic. This will damage evereyone in America, not only those who are employed by the industry.
We must prevent the unorganized an uncontrollable failure of this industry in America and we must act immediately. Any plan must have an exit strategy for the taxpayers, and the taxpayers must earn a return, but this is only possible if we have a domestic auto industry. Failure to do this will leave us all picking up the pieces of 2 million plus lost jobs and the attendant catastrophe in all corners of our economy.
Sometimes an alternative, while not a good thing, is the best of two evils.
The late Maurice Chevalier once said;
" While growing old is sometimes depressing, the alternative is much worse ".
" While aid to the Big 3 auto companies may not be too popular, the alternative is much worse ".
Some, many, have predicted that if the big three were to collapse, five million direct and at least another ten million supplier jobs, in the US and Canada, would disappear overnight. As well another million and a half retirees would suddenly be left with no pension income and no health plans.
22 % of the total North American GNP would be instantly gone!
We could then be very close to an out and out depression!
I respectfully suggest there is a way to help these companies to immediately sell hundreds of thousands more new and used vehicles, AND NOT ONE PENNY OF OUR public monies would be injected directly into GM, Ford & Chrysler to pay pensions and health plans for retirees and multi million dollar severance packages for executives.
This is how I would suggest this be accomplished;
The US and Canadian governments grant anyone – individuals and company fleet vehicles alike – a $5,000 tax credit for each new and up to 3 year old used vehicle that they purchase.
This tax credit would be a direct deal between the governments and the buyers and the buyers could still cut other deals with the auto dealers like " thousands off " and "zero percentage financing".
This initiative would result in the immediate sale of hundreds of thousands of vehicles – which, after all, is the main objective.
AND other positive spin-offs – hundreds of thousands of less "green" and some unsafe vehicles would be taken off the roads immediately thus adding to a cleaner environment and a little less dependency on foreign oil.
To those in the auto industry who may complain of Government subsidies and protectionism – while you have a point, drastic times call foe drastic action.
Respectfully submitted.
I think that GM, Ford & Chrysler should go to Toyota & Honda & ask for 25 billion & see how much help they get.
Get rid of the Unions & maybe the US Govt. will loan the money. Congress should look at the Auto Industry hard before they shell out that much money or read what the public has to say. Read what the public has to say is not in their(congress)vocabulary.
No, they should not be bailed out, they should be jailed for ripping off the american people and made to sell everything they have and then get a 8:00 to 5:00 job and live off less than 400.00 a week like a lot of us. that bail out money should go to help people losing their homes and paying their bills.
The most important thing is to make sure workers are compensated at the same level as the competitors — Toyota, Honda, Volkswagon, etc. Executive compensation should also be in line with that of those companies. The companies do appear to be concentrating on green vehicles. That also must be a part of their business plan. If bankruptcy is needed to achieve these objectives, so be it but how will bankruptcy affect the no. of jobs and the saleability of the autos. With the right kind of advertising they may be able to convince the public that all the cuts in salaries and wages will mean bargain autos. They may also need a written guarantee from the government that spare parts and service will continue to be available.
Reduce hourly wage and benefits to level of competitors. Reduce the ratio of executive compensation to hourly compensation to the historical low.
No bailout under any circumstances. The mess they are in is entirely their own doing. Unions are not at fault. The lack of health care reform is not at fault. The companies themselves are at fault. They talk like capitalist, until the butcher's bill arrives. The companies elected to make the same ol' product because they thought they could get away with it. Clearly, their model does not pass the sniff test in the market place of ideas. As Roy Batty said, "Time to die."
Why not everybody go bankrupt?
Erase all jobs. Then what?
I am a GM retiree and I would like the Government to bail out GM and Ford's. Chrysler borrowed and paid back the government once before. I depend on my Pension check.
Our people of USA should be buying 'Made in USA' products, but everywhere you look products say 'Made in China'. If the government bails out GM and Ford then a credit could also be given to the American people to 'ONLY BUY' the 'GM, FORD, CHRYSLER CARS'.
I worked for GM 35 years and I need my pension check – I deserve it!
Granted the auto companies listened to some bad advice along the way – just like our government – EVERYONE makes mistakes.
Would you pour water into a glass cup that had a crack on the bottom of it? Will pouring more water into it solve the problem??? That is essentially what you are doing if they decide to give money to the big 3.
We should not reward bad decisions and greed.
If you sell Doughnuts but no one wants to eat them because they found other shops that sell doughnuts that taste better than your…then you either sit there and hope…until you go out of business or QUICKLY find a way to make your doughnuts taste better than the competition. This is the way things work. Unfortunately, the big3 did not choose the latter.
Listening to all this, I (your basic professional woman who owns cars made by Honda and Acura) think no amount of money can save these companies while they are obligated to pay the pension and health benefit obligations on their books. If I were running one of these companies, I would dash as fast as possible to file for Chap 11 relief in order to get out of or reduce these obligations, and go on with life. Frankly, I would be much more inclined to buy that corp's stock (as opposed to the non-filing companies) since I don't believe that any amount of retooling will make them stable if they don't reduce those obligations. Contrary to the nonsense I have heard about consumer reaction to a Chap 11 filing, I would buy a car from that company if I otherwise thought the car was a good car. And since the oil companies depend on these guys making it, if my Chap 11 company throws in 6 month's worth of gas (gratefully provided by an oil company of the consumer's choice), I will probably be less fussy about the car.
"All three CEOs – Rick Wagoner of GM, Alan Mulally of Ford, and Robert Nardelli of Chrysler – exercised their perks Tuesday by flying in corporate jets to DC. Wagoner flew in GM's $36 million luxury aircraft to tell members of Congress that the company is burning through cash, asking for $10-12 billion for GM alone.
It is one of eight luxury jets in the GM fleet that continues to ferry executives around the world despite the company's dire financial straits.
Wagoner's private jet trip to Washington cost his ailing company an estimated $20,000 roundtrip. In comparison, seats on Northwest Airlines flight 2364 from Detroit to Washington were going online for $288 coach and $837 first class."
GM CEO's compensation jumps 64 percent in 2007
http://www.companypay.com/executive/comp ensation/general-motors-corp.asp?yr=2008
Sure! Let's bail them out.
I fear the government will pay to keep 3,000,000 people or so working but the product will pile up with no buyers. Cars need customers with money to justify their production. The auto makers can shift production to build trucks and construction equipment for government make-work projects as part of a real bail out. Giving the same old auto executives more money to continue business as usual will do more harm than good.
The auto market has people who don't need cars and people who can't afford to finance cars.
The Goverment has a limited role – Guaranteeing the pensions and health insurance for retirees and displaced workers.
Reorganizational bankrupcy is required so the Big three can emerge with cost structures competative with forign competition.
and just where do people think this pay back money will come from!! the people need to take a stand and not put up with it, if all would stand together it Could be done…america needs to wake up, and all the CEO'S should take a short walk to a jail.. we the people will pay for it, just like all the rest of the crap our taxes go for and we have no clue what they spend it on.. they could have made cars that cut fuel cost, They did not want too..
Unfortunately, the auto industry has been running hard for years just to stay in place and hasn't been able to. If the companies were worth anything someone would have stepped in and bought GM for cheap at $3.00 per share. Everything sells at a price if it has ANY value. GM isn't worth the debt obligations on it. A prebankruptcy government loan is a transfer payment from taxpayers to GM's creditors and employees. Like the airlines, once one of them goes through bankruptcy and comes out a competitor without all the baggage, it will make it more difficult for the others to avoid the same fate.
"During a hearing Wednesday before the House Financial Services Committee, Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., asked the three auto chiefs seated at the witness table before him to raise their hands if they had come to Washington on commercial airliners. No hands went up. Then he asked if any planned to sell their corporate jets. Again, no hands went up.
Sherman and Rep. Gary Ackerman, D-N.Y., told the auto executives they were having a hard time justifying to their constituents bailing out companies whose chiefs fly around in expensive private jets.
Ackerman said there was "a delicious irony in seeing private jets flying into Washington D.C. and people coming off them with tin cups in their hands."
Absolutely Not!!!
This is not a bailout of the US automotive industry. It is simply a bailout of the UAW who destroyed the US auto makers in the first place. Palosi and Reid would never have survived their pathetic political careers without the unions or the mentality associated with it, "create a sense of protecting the little guys,and we can exert tremendous political power unfettered and our greed will go unchallenged by the masses". The Dems want the continued support of the unions and will do and say anything to get that support. Are the unions going to get something that the Dems promised them again,this time around? Do the Dems shake in their shoes thinking maybe they can't deliver to the unions. And now that the Dems have won this election, skewed by the MSM, will we also be hearing bail-out requests from the Main Stream Media? Probably, since they are having such a hard time selling their liberal rags and are themselves failing financially. What about free enterprise and competition among all entities of the WORLD. We no longer have even one US auto manufacturer who is in the top ten rankings of auto producers. Let the dinosauers die. Let free markets rule.
The tree company that I'm working for is struggling right now, can we get a bailout?
Back in the late sixties – early seventies, companies like Honda, Toyota, Datsun began to compete with U.S. auto makers with cars that were affordable and offered very high gas milageage per gallon. Why should we bailout companies like Ford, G.M., or Chrysler for not competing for thirty years? why are they even making "Hummers" or SUVs period? And then charge us just as much for it as an imported vehicle? Let them fall, they have already failed and put only the workers on welfare instead of the CEOs and entire industry.
Arguments for and against any manufacturing industry assistance program is a moot point for the next 2 months. Paulson has made it abundantly clear that he intends only to bail out Wall Street while the rest of the nation waits for the trickle down. No one will miss him when he is canned in January.
As for US automakers, they have no excuse for their incompetence. Their product portfolio for the North American market is shameful, with only a handful of vehicles that achieve over 25 miles per gallon in mixed city/highway driving. Now that they can no longer sell their oversized gas guzzlers and retro-muscle cars, dramatic changes are needed. This would be nothing less than a complete reorganization of the auto companies, including not only major divestment of plants and employees at all levels, but also substantial change in corporate mission and operating procedures. One could argue that it doesn't matter who does this (federal officials, the bankruptcy court, or new private investors), it will be painful and expensive for everyone.
But events in the last two weeks should alert us that asking for assistance from the Bush administration doesn't gain you anything if you aren't in political favor with the administration. What's more, any bailout architected by Paulson would throw money at the problem-makers without forcing solutions to the fundamental problems. Paulson has done more damage than good so far with his "TARP". He as actually made matters worse. The bailout money that has already been blown on the likes of AIG has gone toward everything but what it was advertised to remedy, instead being funneled into stock buyback programs and executive compensation. Has anyone at AIG been fired for their shady dealings? Clearly any plan that allows the Bush administration to manage assistance for automakers is a recipe for more disaster.
Let us hope that world leaders lay out regulation and incentives that help private industry create long-term value for everyone rather than volatile short-term paper wealth for the politically connected.
Didn't the Airlines file for Chapter 11 a few years ago? And did the economy collapse because of it? Even Mitt Romney, known for his ability to help companies in distress, has said the auto industry needs to file Chap 11. They need to clean out those overpaid, uncreative minds that can't see beyond their perks! They need to bring in new people with ideas other than more gas guzzling SUVs.
OK, if the bailout is granted, is the "top management" willing to take a 80% pay cut or take home a meager pay check like that of a shop floor engineer?
Let e'm go, they do not deserve a bailout. They are ignorant and can't change thier old ways. Coming to town to ask for money without a future plan for viability is like coming to a shoot out with a pistol and no bullets.
Send e'm home to work it out amongst themselves and may the best man be left standing.
First question they have to ask is "why have we lost market share, doh"
Given that the CEO's have collectively stated they are burning cash at a rate of 8 billion a month, the proposed package will buy them a further 3 or 4 months. Where is the plan to say how they will restructure so significantly that this will be reversed? I don't believe it is possible for that to occur in that timeframe.
Perhaps the US should have a look over the shoulder at what happened in the UK when they tried to rescue the car industry there. Most of those companies wound up nationalised, then collapsed anyway.
It cost hundreds of millions of pounds, and achieved nothing.
You have Chapter 11 in the US – they should use it to rebuild a competitive industry.
Mike posted an excellent comment! I couldn't stop laughing.
How about they sell the jets, all of their real estate, and more assets they all have combined, and they will come up with the money they need. If all three companies sold all the extras they have and do not need,no, we should not have to bail them out.
Why didn't they design the smaller, more fuel efficient car 10, even 15 years ago, when Toyota was on the rise?These idiots don't know how to compete I guess.
Japan must really be laughing at us now. Hey, maybe the Japanese will come over here and take over the auto industry.
Sell your assets!!!
See, this is where a life style of GREED will take us.
Every employe of Big three should consider themselves as owner of their company with highy motivated without any expectation regarding their salary by great sacrifice by reducing their monthly salary, benifitis by 60 % of their cost to the company. It should starts from the top to bottom. Big support needed from unions, directors should relenquish their salary to 60,000 dollars maximum. The challanged can be met by combined efforts without giving any unfair advantages to the HR department, suppliers, directors. Great organisations cannot built up without great sacrifice, emotional attachement to the company, determination.*
As a person who would be affected by the bankruptcy of the auto industry, you might say that I have a vested interest in their survival. Well, I do. It is true that the auto companies should have been making hybrids and alternative fuel vehicles years ago, instead of the SUVs and trucks that are currently manufactured. And as is the case, when the public's requirements in new vehicles changed, the auto companies were slow to respond.
As I said, I do work in the warehouse of one of the auto companies. I do this not necessarily by choice, but by neccessity. The area where I live has high unemployment due to a lack of jobs. I drive 50 miles each way every day to work. Again, not by choice, but because I have to. It's the only game in town, so to speak. It's easy for senators and others who don't rely on the auto industry for their livlyhood to say "Let them go under"/ perhaps you'd feel a little bit different if you had to depend on these "dinosaurs" to support your family and to survive.
Today, these 3 auto giants are before the committee and tomorrow, there will be a thousand more Companies big and small who will line up for bail-out. And what about those individuals who lose their jobs? Who is going to provide the bail-out?
Is there only two alternatives??? 25 billion bridge loan or Chapter 11 ? Is that all this world leader of a nation an come up with? Come on, we are smarter than that! I am sure there are many plausible alternatives besides those two that might be far better alternatives. Our legislators can put together a package of anything that they want – they have the power to put pass a temporary emergency legislation law bill for automaker assistance.
One senario might be: structure a bridge loan to each automakers need with tight conditions on that loan. Loan conditions being: During the loan and until the loan is fully paid back (1) Senior executive management compensation will be reduced by some percentage. (2) Middle management compensation reduced by some percentage (3) Union workers compensation and benefits reduced by some percenage. (4) An agreed upon independent audit of the company to review operations and make recommendations that would lead to future viablilty of the company- possible cost reductions -reduction company model lines, etc.
Also, an assigned tight government company/loan oversight board uring the loan period to ensure that the company is following guidlines duringthe loan period. The oversight oard wouldhave the responsibility of making timelyreports to congress /american public. Any future assistance would be dependent on progress of the company to progress in becoming more financially independent.
i think that somebody will have to take the poison pill and let ford and gmc fail and then see what appears on the other end of the tunnel But i don't think that current management of both these company's have the courage and the balls to take that action with all the money spent rescuing these companies we could start from scratch and have maybe 5 or 10 smaller companys but more specialised and more dinamic.
Why not ask everyone that has a job tied to the auto industry to pony up some bucks. Will any of the retirees or current workers be willing to throw $2-5K of their money into the companies to keep them going? I worked at GM in Kansas City back in the late 70′s. I couldn't believe the mindset of the unions back then and the horseplay that went on. Heck on friday nights, there was whiskey bottles stuffed in carberatuors, there was apple cores and trash stuffed inside fender wells, I watched a union worker shoot long screws through the roof of cars mounting dome lights because he was out of the right length – it wasn't his job to get the right screws. There was no sense of ownership by any of the union employees. I was paid over $18.00 and it was 1978. That's what the current Alabama Hyundai workers are making today. Yeah the money was good back then, but as a young man I didn't think the industry would survive with people like that. So I left and 30 years later guess I was right. The industry is on the verge of collapse. I worked 20+ years for Honeywell in the maintenance department for a non-union plant. We could send 1 maintenance man out to change a pump – something our counterparts at union plants couldn't do. They would have to send out an electrician to unwire it, a plumber to unhook the plumping, a mechanic out to remove the pump, a laborer to clean the area, and then do that in reverse to install a new pump. We would send one man out and do the job in just a couple of hours. The unions have structured the jobs in detroit with such stringent guidelines it's a wonder they all have had jobs this long.


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On August 20, 2013, SAExploration Holdings, Inc. (the "Company") issued a press release stating that on August 19, 2013, the Company had reached a determination to restate its previously-filed interim financial statements for the first quarter of 2013, and concluded that such financial statements should no longer be relied upon because of errors in the financial statements. See Item 4.02 below for additional information about the restatement and related matters.
A copy of the Company's press release announcing the restatement and related matters is attached hereto as Exhibit 99.1 and incorporated by reference herein. Exhibit 99.1 hereto is being furnished and shall not be deemed "filed" for the purposes of Section 18 of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended, or otherwise subject to the liabilities of that Section. The information in Exhibit 99.1 shall not be incorporated by reference into any registration statement pursuant to the Securities Act of 1933, as amended.
(a) On August 19, 2013, the Company made a determination to restate its previously-filed interim financial statements for the quarter ended March 31, 2013, to correct misstatements in the accounting for certain of the Company's expenses. The Company reached the determination to restate the financial statements for the quarter ended March 31, 2013, following management's discussion of the matter with the audit committee of the Company's board of directors, and management's and the audit committee's discussions with the Company's independent registered public accounting firm. In connection with that discussion, on August 19, 2013, the Company's management and audit committee determined that investors should not rely upon the Company's previously released financial statements for the first quarter of 2013.
The restatement results from information that came to the Company's attention in connection with the preparation and review of its Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2013. The Company is continuing to work to resolve questions associated with certain adjustments to direct operating expenses between the first and second quarters of 2013. Although the review is ongoing and additional items may need to be included in the restatement, certain adjustments have been identified relating to SAE's operations in Papua New Guinea. These adjustments will change the allocation of direct operating expenses between the first and second quarters of 2013. SAE believes that these adjustments will decrease direct operating expenses for the first quarter of 2013. Because of the time involved in restating its first quarter financial statements, the Company will not timely file its Quarterly Report Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2013.
The Company's financial statements for the quarter ended March 31, 2013, were included in the Company's Current Report on Form 8-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on June 28, 2013, which incorporated such financial statements by reference to the Trio Merger Corp. proxy statement/information statement dated May 31, 2013, relating to the completion of the merger of the company formerly known as SAExploration Holdings, Inc. with and into a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company. The Company will amend that Form 8-K to reflect the restatement of those financial statements. It expects to file the first quarter amendment on Form 8-K/A and its Form 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2013, as soon as possible.
In connection with the restatement, the Company is in the process of evaluating deficiencies in its internal control over financial reporting. As part of this evaluation, management may determine that a deficiency associated with the accounting for its Papua New Guinea operations constitutes a material weakness. The Company has begun taking immediate steps to remediate this potential deficiency and intends to take further action to remediate any other deficiencies that are identified as part of its evaluation of its internal control over financial reporting, which may include centralizing its accounting operations at one location.

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Devin Ebanks joins Kevin Jones as the second former Mountaineer to suit up in the NBA Summer League.
March approaches and evokes memories of one of the greatest
stretches in WVU basketball history that took place just two seasons ago.
As West Virginia fights its way through a tough skid in
recent weeks it may seem like a long time ago that Da'Sean Butler was leading
the Mountaineers through Madison Square Garden and all the way to Indianapolis.
But imagine how long it must feel for Butler himself, who
spent much of the time since that run trying to get back to the point where he
could play the game he loved at all, much less in an organized setting with a
paycheck to follow.
Following the knee injury that closed his college career in
devastating fashion, Butler has done all he can to prove that he can hang with
the professionals.
Originally drafted by the Miami Heat and finishing his
rookie year with a stint in the NBA D-League for the Austin Toros, WVU's third
all-time leading scorer went an entire season without playing a single minute
of basketball.
When he didn't stick with the San Antonio Spurs, he went
back to the Toros, a free agent looking to make a splash at a lower level and
turn heads up in the association. Really, though, he just wanted to be able to
get back to doing what he loves.
"It's great to be playing again," Butler said before a recent
game against the Canton Charge. "That's the most important thing to me. I had a
year and a half to watch when I was with the Heat and with the Spurs and coming
down here [Austin] a little bit and watching them play then going back to the
Spurs. I had a long time to watch and now getting the change to play – I just
want to make the most of my situation."
Butler joined with the Toros 10 games into their season and
it took him just eight appearances to show head coach Brad Jones that he was
worthy of a place in his starting five.
"Just seeing how I adapted to the team. It was that kind of
situation," says Butler. "It took some time for me to get adjusted to the team
but I needed to do what the team needed from me."
For the past 11 games, all starts, Butler is averaging 13.7
points and six rebounds.
He is growing more comfortable in his role for Austin and
it's evident in watching his on-court demeanor that he is becoming a leader
despite being one of the new kids.
When Butler got to the Toros, they were already finding
success and leading the Western Conference. Now their record ranks at the top
of the entire league and they show no signs of slowing.
Although it may not be the level he wants to play ball at
for very long, Butler gets a kick out of the fact that he's playing for a
winning team.
"That's a big thing, especially coming from the program I
was coming from with the two very competitive and winning coaches I had the
chance to play for," Butler says of John Beilein and Bob Huggins at West
Virginia. "It is important, so for me to come out here and have a great coach
like I do now, we are No. 1 in the league… it has been very nice to be on a
winning team."
Butler wears a brace on that left knee as a precautionary
measure. He says he can move freely on his leg and has no concerns of it
slowing him, but he doesn't want to put himself in a situation where the injury
could occur again and effectively end his career.
It would be understandable for a player with such an injury
to let it get in his head and make him play differently, but that isn't
something you'll soon see happen with Butler.
"I've been doing jump stops a lot more after the accident,
but honestly, I just have to go out there and play and if things happen like
that again, it's just the way it is and we'll go from there," he says. "I just
don't want to think negative. Just go out and play and try to make the best of
That mentality is what made Butler so successful in his days
in Morgantown. It's what propelled him into the starting lineup in Austin and
it's what he will use to grab the attention of anyone watching in hopes to land
somewhere in the NBA.
For now, he is focused on his team and working toward a
playoff run. His chance at a March encore is approaching, and Butler is glad
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PCA 4 DCA: the application of principal component analysis to the Dendritic Cell Algorithm
Gu, Feng and Greensmith, Julie and Oates, Robert and Aickelin, Uwe (2009) PCA 4 DCA: the application of principal component analysis to the Dendritic Cell Algorithm. In: 9th Annual Workshop on Computational Intelligence (UKCI 2009), 7-9 Sept. 2009, Nottingham, UK.
As one of the newest members in the field of articial immune systems (AIS), the Dendritic Cell Algorithm (DCA) is based on behavioural models of natural dendritic cells (DCs). Unlike other AIS, the DCA does not rely on training data, instead domain or expert knowledge is required to predetermine the mapping between input signals from a particular instance to the three categories used by the DCA. This data preprocessing phase has received the criticism of having manually over-fitted the data to the algorithm, which is undesirable. Therefore, in this paper we have attempted to ascertain if it is possible to use principal component analysis (PCA) techniques to automatically categorise input data while still generating useful and accurate classication results. The integrated system is tested with a biometrics dataset for the stress recognition of automobile drivers. The experimental results have shown the application of PCA to the DCA for the purpose of automated data preprocessing is successful.
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Summary: ÂPride and Prejudice lives on, (USA Today) Âa fun and zany time warp, (New York Daily News) Âhistory textbook meets Bridget Jones (Marie Claire): Readers and reviewers alike praise Lauren WilligÂs bestselling Pink Carnation series for its passion, adventure, and tantalizing stories of flower- named spies during the Napoleonic wars. Lauren Willig continues the exciting Pink Carnation series with her fourth novel, The Seduction of the Crimson Rose, featuring Lord Vaughn, the delightfully devilish spy from The Masque of the Black Tulip, and Mary Alsworthy, the raven-haired beauty whose sister accidentally stole her suitor in The Deception of the Emerald Ring.Determined to secure another London season without assistance from her new brother-in-law, Mary accepts a secret assignment from Lord Vaughn on behalf of the Pink Carnation: to infiltrate the ranks of the dreaded French spy, the Black Tulip, before he and his master can stage their planned invasion of England. Every spy has a weakness, and for the Black Tulip that weakness is black-haired womenÂhis Âpetals of the Tulip. A natural at the art of seduction, Mary easily catches the attention of the French spy, but Lord Vaughn never anticipates that his own heart will be caught as well. Fighting their growing attraction, impediments from their past, and, of course, the French, Mary and Vaughn find themselves lost in the shadows of a treacherous garden of lies. As our modern-day heroine, Eloise Kelly, digs deeper into EnglandÂs Napoleonic- era espionage, she becomes even more entwined with Colin Selwick, the descendant of her spy subjects.
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Focus Model: Beriev A-40 Albatross (Mermaid)
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Architectural designer J. Charles Burton designed the Kings' stone home.
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A peaceful refuge for Wanda and Alan, the master suite is colorful but more restrained than the home's public spaces. A pale green background offers a serene setting for the bed canopy and the floral fabric used for window treatments.
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Has anybody installed the Passport with the Blendmount kit? I know Blendmount makes a Valentine 1 mount specific to the Challenger SRT8 and am hoping the Passport installs just as cleanly.
I've decided on the Passport 9500ix but would like to see how they are being hardwired into the Challenger SRT8s. Thanks.
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Man...I love this forum. Thanks for the response.
You say it was a PITA...any reason why specifically? Did you have to modify their mount? I plan on having a shop install and hardwire the detector...so hopefully it won't be too much of a PITA for them.
I had a car audio shop install the hardwire for the 9500ix awhile back. The blendmount was a pita because it was difficult to handle the u-joint type bracket and the tiny allen screws with my gargantuan hands . I found it very cumbersome trying to tighten the screws with the supplied allen wrench and the mirror in the way. I didn't have to modify the mount though, it fits perfectly. You can't even see the 9500ix from outside the car because it blends in so well with the rear view mirror. You will be able to adjust the mirror while keeping the radar straight and the gps still has a clear line of sight. Hope this helps
What about hardwiring the unit. Doesn't that mean you can't mute it any more? It's a clean looking setup for sure.
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HAMPTON — Shortly before they took the court in Albuquerque, N.M., to face Kentucky in the 2011 NCAA tournament, Hampton University coach David Six sensed that his players were uncharacteristically quiet and edgy.
Six tried to snap them out of it.
"I can see y'all aren't like me," he said to them.
What do you mean, several of them asked.
"I know I'm the best coach here," Six told them.
They laughed.
"I said, no, I'm dead serious," he said. "I said, they have more resources than me, but I tell you what: If you listen to me, I'm going to level the playing field for you. But you've got to do what I tell you to do."
The Lady Pirates loosened up a bit. They came to the bench for the second media timeout of the first half, tied 8-8 with the Wildcats of the Southeastern Conference.
Six went down the bench and tapped players on the leg, looked at the group and said, "Still think we can't play with Kentucky?"
Six has spent five years molding and building HU's women's program into not just the best in the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference, but one capable of competing regionally and even nationally.
The Lady Pirates' next test comes Sunday when, as a No. 12 seed, they face fifth-seeded Michigan State in an NCAA first-round matchup at Chapel Hill, N.C.
The Spartans tied for the Big Ten Conference regular-season title and have made 11 of the past 12 NCAA tournaments. They are big, deep and talented.
Hampton will attempt to do what it always does, what Six has drilled into his players since he took over. One of the nation's statistically best defensive teams will attempt to limit Michigan State.
"Everybody likes to win," Six said. "I would say the biggest thing in five years that these kids have learned is that's the way we can win. If we can play good defense, we just might beat them. If we slow them down, we just might beat them. If we disrupt what they're doing, we just might beat them."
The program has come a long way from Six's first season, when the Lady Pirates won the first of an unprecedented five straight MEAC tournament titles, and he tried to instill the belief that they could compete nationally.
It's been a process. In 2010, the 15th-seeded Lady Pirates traveled to No. 2 seed and sixth-ranked Duke. The Blue Devils rolled to a 40-14 halftime lead and cruised 72-37.
"The first year, we were in awe of the NCAA tournament because it was unexpected to win the (MEAC) tournament," Six said. "As soon as they said 'Duke' I thought that the kids were intimidated. I could tell during the week that the kids were intimidated by that. Any time you're in awe of somebody, your ability to be able to compete is going to be hindered a little bit."
The following year, Hampton was given a No. 13 seed and faced fourth-seeded Kentucky, on a neutral floor at the Pit in Albuquerque.
The Lady Pirates took Six's message to heart and battled the Wildcats, eventually falling 66-62 in overtime. HU led 52-51 on a Jericka Jenkins jump shot with 6:22 left, and Quanneisha Perry's two free throws with 1:04 to play tied the game at 56.
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Per the Tribune. Hendry had an option to return for 2009, but could have left the team in December if he wanted to try and find greener pastures elsewhere.
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PHILADELPHIA -- His team winning in a laugher, Kevin Love could afford to have some fun on the bench.
While most visiting players give a death stare to the kiss cam, Love leaned over and tried to hug it out with Lou Amundson. Love didn't quite get the affection returned. But that was OK. About everything else went Minnesota's way in their biggest win of the season.
Josh Howard had 16 points and 10 rebounds for his first double-double in more than three years to lead the Timberwolves to a 105-88 win over the Philadelphia 76ers on Tuesday night.
Alexey Shved hit four 3-pointers and scored 17 for the Timberwolves, who raced to a 23-point lead in the first half and never looked back.
Love had six points and 10 rebounds for Minnesota on a night where he was hardly needed to turn in his usual dominant double-double performance. Jose Barea came off the bench and finished with 11 points and 10 assists, and three other Minnesota reserves also reached double figures.
The Timberwolves made 11 of their first 19 3-point attempts after coming in shooting a woeful 27 per cent from long range this season. They shot a season-high 53 per cent from the floor and scored more than 100 points for the second time this season.
"We always made a shot. We kept getting stops," coach Rick Adelman said. "That's the biggest thing."
Howard had his best game since joining the Timberwolves last month. Howard averaged 8.7 points last season in Utah, but needed a minor surgery on his left knee during the season. It's the same knee in which he tore the ACL in 2010, an injury that slowed him for nearly two seasons.
Howard said the knee is feeling good now -- and he looked great in 29 minutes against the Sixers, shooting 7 of 12 and making two 3-pointers.
He hit five of his first seven shots and scored 10 points in the first quarter to help Minnesota build a quick 13-point lead. He was impressive from mid-range and showed why he's been in the starting lineup for the last three games.
Howard had his first double-double since he had one for Dallas on April 10, 2009, and made sure the Timberwolves keep a comfortable lead.
"We didn't want to give them any life," Adelman said. "For the most part, we did that."
Howard appears in shape and ready to help push Minnesota (8-8) over .500. The Timberwolves have been banged up by injuries all season with Love (illness), Malcom Lee (groin) and Andrei Kirilenko (back spasms) all missing games or practice. Ricky Rubio just returned to practice for the first season this season as he recovers from a surgically repaired left knee.
The Timberwolves can give Rubio all the time he wants to come back if they keep playing like this. Luke Ridnour ended a brief Sixers spurt with a 3 in the third. Howard hit a 3 to make it 80-63 and Shved followed with another for an 18-point lead. Shed made his first three 3-pointers before slowing down.
"You aren't always going to play like we did tonight," Barea said. "I think we're doing a good job of staying aggressive and it's working out for us."
Evan Turner led the Sixers with 19 points.
What was left of an already sparse crowd booed the Sixers off the court after this listless performance. While Minnesota hit 3 after 3 to build a lead, the Sixers missed a whopping 15 of 20 attempts. Jason Richardson scored 14 points and Jrue Holiday had 13 points and nine assists.
"We have to fight. We have to compete," coach Doug Collins said. "We're not gonna run up and down the sidelines here. That's not going to work. This team hasn't been through anything together. So I don't know who we are."
The Sixers are loaded with new players after a big off-season overhaul and Collins is still looking for a locker room leader. Richardson tried to stay positive after their second straight loss.
"We try to stay together, that's the main thing," Richardson said. "We were outplayed. Yes, we are a very new team, we don't know each other real well, but we have a 10-8 record."
Notes: Collins said the Sixers would consider sending F Arnett Moultrie to the NBDL. ... Sixers G Nick Young sat out with an injured toe. ... Minnesota's 65 points in the first half were the most scored against the 76ers in any half this season. ... Minnesota's 13 3-pointers were a season high. ... The Timberwolves had a 47-40 edge on the boards. The Sixers have been outrebounded in nine of the last 12 games.
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18. Tyler Ennis - Suns
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L.A. Lakers hoops star KOBE BRYANT is hoping against hope to reconcile with wife, VANESSA for the sake of their kids. Maybe he ought to just admit he's a sex addict and get some therapy to save his marriage?
Long-suffering wife Vanessa finally filed for divorce after she caught her cheat-happy husband straying from his marriage vows one time too many, and this after she stuck with him when he was charged with sexually assaulting a Colorado hotel employee way back in 2003…
Unconfirmed Hollywood rumors have it that one of Kim Kardashian's BFFs and the associate producer of her show "Kourtney and Kim Take New York," Carla diBello, has been linked to the Kobe Bryant-Vanessa Bryant divorce.
Kobe's now seeking a reconciliation with his wife whose divorce papers include asking for the court for primary custody of their girls.
Reports currently emerging describe Kobe as "deeply depressed" and worried over how his two daughters Natalia and Gianna would take their parents' split.
Well, he should have thought about that before cheating on his wife with any hump-able female that crossed his path, didn't he?
Let's hope Vanessa concedes to the spirit of Christmas and gives Kobe just one more chance to prove he can be a faithful husband…
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BREAKING: Health care law upheld!
By Jos | Published: June 28, 2012
TweetThe Supreme Court just delivered their decision on the American Care Act, and it's mostly a huge win for supporters of the law. The individual mandate, requiring people to purchase health care, was upheld, but the mandate is a tax. Individuals could refuse to pay the tax and not comply, but the mandate falls under [...]
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Student journalist describes being sexually assaulted by mob in Egypt
By Maya | Published: June 28, 2012
Tweet*Trigger warning* Another horrifying sexual assault against a woman journalist in Egypt is spotlighting the epidemic of harassment in the country–as well as the risks lady reporters regularly face across the globe. The attack against Natasha Smith, a British student journalist working on a documentary about women's rights, during the post-election celebrations this past weekend [...]
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Tweet This. (Context here.) I'm shocked – SHOCKED – that a Republican (and Rand Paul to boot!) would block legislation from getting passed in the name of "life." Texas seeks to repeal the Voting Rights Act so the state can reignite voter discrimination tactics. (And that's just the beginning.) It's National HIV Testing Day. Do it. Nothing like using [...]
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September 02, 2010, 9:40 PM — Officials in Harris County, Texas are scrambling to find replacement e-voting machines for this year's gubernatorial elections after a massive fire last week destroyed all 10,000 machines originally scheduled for use in the polls.
The pre-dawn fire, the cause of which still remains a mystery, destroyed a 28,000-square-foot warehouse in which the machines were stored, and caused close to $40 million in damages, according to a report in the Houston Chronicle .
Harris County Clerk Beverly Kaufman told the Chronicle $30 million of the loss was tied to the voting equipment while the remainder stemmed from damages to the building. The e-voting machines were slated for use in 736 polling sites for the Nov. 2 elections and for early voting, which runs Oct. 18-29.
Harris County encompasses the city of Houston and bills itself as the largest county in the U.S as well as the largest one to adopt e-voting technologies. The county has been using e-voting machines since 2001.
The eSlate systems destroyed in the blaze were designed by Hart InterCivic, an Austin-based manufacturer of voting machines. The legal-pad sized system features a rotary wheel that allows voters to navigate through the ballot and make their choices. Voters can choose between English and Spanish when using the system.
In addition to the e-voting hardware, the fire also destroyed judge's booth controllers that generate access codes for voters to use in accessing their ballots and tabulating the vote count at the end of the elections.
Hector DeLeon, spokesman for the Harris County Clerk's Office, today said that county government officials are working diligently to find replacement machines in time for both the early voting and for Election Day.
At a meeting this week, county officials approved a plan to acquire about 3,100 replacement units, DeLeon said. In addition, several nearby counties have offered e-voting systems to help Harris County out. Most of the systems that have been offered by other counties have been judge's booth controllers, he said.
The goal is to equip all 37 early voting locations with the previously planned numbers of voting machines for each location, he said. In the last major election in Harris County, about 62% of the voting took place during the early voting phase, and the goal is to have enough equipment in place to handle that level of traffic.
On Election Day, the county will equip each of the 736 polling stations with at least one e-voting machine to comply with the requirements of the Americans with Disabilities Act, he said.


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Freestyling crochet scarf
My 10 year old girl is soon to be 11 and she made a birthday wish list. It was an achievable and good list. Amongst the art supplies, how-to draw Manga and the next book in the Angie Sage Septimus Heap series included a funny request for a Parrot (alive) and Piranha (alive), but at the very bottom of the list was a 'spotty dotty scarf'. That I can do I thought. So I got my crochet hook out, all my colourful yarn and got to making crochet circles. After about 15 colourful circles I started to wonder how I would put them together. I had an idea in my head but wasn't sure if it would work out. So after some looking around the internet and on Ravelry I came upon some freestyling crochet designs and so thats what I did. I winged it.
Here is what I did:
Step 1. Make about 20 circles in different coloured yarn (medium weight yarn – medium size hook).
- chain 6
- join chain with a slip stitch to make a loop
- Treble crochet (uk) / double crochet (US) (which I will now call Tr) 12 stitches into the loop
- join with a slip stitch
- chain 3 then Tr into the next stitch then 2 Tr into each stitch after that – total of 24 stitches
- join with a slip stitch into the top of the chain. Tie off – leave a long tail.
Here is a good visual tutorial for making crochet circles
I used alpaca and wool from Bendigo woollen mills.
Step 2. Take 8 of your circles and add a row of white around.
- Tie in your white thread to the tail and chain 3.
- Make 2 Tr into the next stitch, 1 Tr into the 3rd stitch, 2 Tr into the 4th stitch, and so on all the way around.
- join with a slip stitch into the first chain. Tie off, leave a long tail.
Step 3. Lay out your circles in a long line:
- Large circle, small circle, large circle, 2 small circles, large circle etc until you are happy with the design.
- then join the circles to each other using the long tails you left and slip stitch together (about 4-5 slip stitches) and tie off.
Step 4. Crochet around the outside:
- Choose a different colour and crochet Dc [= Double (UK) which is the same as Single crochet (US)] all the way around. When you come to the bits where you have a smaller circle and it dips in, then you will need to stitch in Tr, then go back to Dc again.
- Go around doing this until you are happy with how it is shaping up.
- Block it, press it gently with a warm steam iron and you are done!
Dc = Double (UK) which is the same as Single crochet (US)
Tr = Treble (UK) which is the same as Double (US)


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It's true that a committee never wrote a decent ad. But the Advertising Federation wouldn't be possible without the focused efforts of busy people like you who serve on our committees. Whether your interest centers on social, education, technology or finance, we have a committee (or two) that need you.
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