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Deep Space Industries believes in the spread and expansion of knowledge. It is important to us that you have the chance to learn as much as you can about the Solar System around us, what it is we are doing and why we are doing it at all. We urge you to read, study and learn all you can about the universe around you – after all it is only a hundred miles away – straight up!
McLean, VA – February 15 – Today's impact in Russia and the near miss by asteroid 2012 DA14 should shock the world into creating a sentry line of spacecraft circling the Earth to intercept and evaluate incoming threats, Deep Space Industries proposed.
"The hundreds of people injured in northern Russia show it's time to take action and no longer be passive about these threats," said Rick Tumlinson, chairman of Deep Space Industries.
Deep Space Industries proposes establishing several sentry lines encircling Earth with small spacecraft able to dart after intruders to get close-in photos and data as they pass. Over time additional spacecraft able to grab samples for analysis on Earth would join the sentry lines.
Not all asteroids are the same, and to be ready to deflect one that's on a dangerous trajectory the world needs to know more about their structure and composition. Many may be solid but all photos so far have shown gravel and rock piles. A defense plan assuming the wrong type could make matters worse.
"Placing ten of our small FireFly spacecraft into position to intercept close encounters would take four years and less than $100 million," said David Gump, CEO of Deep Space Industries. "This will help the world develop the understanding needed to block later threats."
There are estimated to be more than 10,000 near Earth asteroids that could destroy a major city and a hundred that would end civilization. Near Earth asteroids are confirmed at a rate of more than 900 per year, but as yet little is known about their composition and structure.
"Observations by space telescopes like the Sentinel planned by the B612 Foundation and the smaller units offered by Planetary Resources should be supported," Tumlinson said. "Astronomical observations are a good first step but at Deep Space we believe we need get up close and personal. Then when these objects are identified, we can launch one or more FireFlies to intercept them, and give us close-up images so that we understand what we are dealing with."
Deep Space Industries is preparing the FireFly series to begin prospecting in 2015 for asteroids that are very small, five to seven meters in diameter. The same FireFly prospecting design would be used in the sentry line of asteroid interceptors.
Then in 2020, Deep Space will bring one of these tiny rocks back to a parking orbit near Earth to be harvested for its water, rocket fuel, and metals for in-space customers such as communications satellites that have run out of gas. The larger harvesting spacecraft might be the basis for interceptors that could nudge larger threats into trajectories that miss Earth.
In the coming months Deep Space Industries will be offering plans to develop a coordinated low-cost commercial solution to setting up humanity's first line of defense against asteroid threats.
"While our primary mission is the harvesting of asteroid resources, we believe that virtually the same effort and technology can be applied to removing this threat to our precious planet," Tumlinson said.
Asteroid 2012 DA14 Could Have Been Worth $195 billion – If It Were In the Right Orbit
McLean, VA – February 12 – The asteroid making an extremely close pass of Earth this week could be worth up to $195 billion in metals and propellant, if it were in a different orbit, Deep Space Industries (DSI) announced today. Unfortunately, the path of asteroid 2012 DA14 is tilted relative to Earth, requiring too much energy to chase it down for mining.
Sending fuel, water, and building materials into high Earth orbit costs at least $10 million per ton, even using new lower-cost launch vehicles just now coming into service.
"Getting these supplies to serve communications satellites and coming crewed missions to Mars from in-space sources like asteroids is key – if we are going to explore and settle space," said Rick Tumlinson, Chairman of DSI. "While this week's visitor isn't going the right way for us to harvest it, there will be others that are, and we want to be ready when they arrive."
How valuable might such an asteroid be – were it harvestable? According to DSI experts, if 2012 DA14 contains 5% recoverable water, that alone – in space as rocket fuel – might be worth as much as $65 billion. If 10% of its mass is easily recovered iron, nickel and other metals, that could be worth – in space as building material – an additional $130 billion.
If the advent of reusable launch vehicles causes future prices to fall to 20% of today's levels, an asteroid the size of 2012 DA14 would still be worth $39 billion, and the cost of launching hardware to retrieve and process it would be much lower.
"Even with conservative estimates of the potential value of any given asteroid, if we begin to utilize them in space they are all the equivalent of a space oasis for refueling and resupply," said Deep Space CEO David Gump. "Yet we know very little about most of them. That's why Deep Space is starting off with a prospecting campaign using very affordable cubesat technologies and hitching cheap rides to space as secondary payloads on the launch of large communications satellites."
While its trajectory past Earth is known with precision, almost everything else about the rock is uncertain. It could mass as little as 16,000 tons or as much as one million tons. The great range stems from uncertainties about its diameter – from 25 yards to 100 yards – and its composition. While probably mainly stony in nature, it could vary widely in the amount of water and metals it contains. Astronomers have measured how much light is being reflected from its surface but the question mark is the reflectivity of that surface. If the surface is very dark, reflecting that much light means it must be a big object. Conversely, if the surface is light, even a small asteroid could reflect a lot of light.
"This is thought to be a L-class asteroid, and this type generally reflects about 20 percent of the light that strikes it," said Stephen Covey, DSI's Director of Research and Development. "That would make its diameter about 50 yards and mass about 130,000 tons."
Deep Space Industries will be harvesting asteroids to create propellant to extend the working life of communications satellites, to supply future explorers and to build habitats and other structures in space. However, 2012 DA14 is not one of its targets as its orbit around the Sun is significantly inclined relative to that of the Earth around the Sun, so that reaching it would take too much energy. Deep Space believes there are thousands of near Earth asteroids that will be easier to chase down than this one.
"The challenge right now is to get out there soon so we can inspect and sample them," said Tumlinson. "Whether for mining, science or planetary defense, we really need to begin getting close up and personal with these objects."
Deep Space Industries plans to send small probes called FireFlies to examine asteroids and allow comparisons with readings taken by Earth and space based telescopes. They are to be followed by DragonFly sample return missions, to lay the groundwork for potential space mining operations in the 2020 time frame.
Asteroid Impacts – "Eat or Be Eaten"
Although the most popular images of asteroids are from movies and documentaries about their threat to our existence, we know that they also contain immense mineral wealth in the form of water, metals and other useful materials. Gaining knowledge for either reason helps the other. As one DSI team member said only half jokingly : "It's almost an eat or be eaten situation."
Credit – NASA/Don Davis
Rich sources of rocket fuel
Many near Earth asteroids may be extinct comets, with perhaps half their mass an ice core surrounded by an insulating blanket of dust and gravel. Turning the ice into propellant would provide abundant fuel for an expanding space-faring civilization. Propellant delivered to geostationary orbit for communications satellites and outbound missions to the Moon and Mars is worth $25 million per ton – and a small former comet would provide hundreds of tons of propellant.
Credit: NASA / Hubble Space Telescope
Meteor Crater
This is a photo of Meteor Crater in Arizona from the 1930s. It has only been in the last few decades that scientists have realized that features such as this were due to meteor impacts rather than volcanoes and other geological activities. 1.2km in diameter, it was caused by the impact of a smallish asteroid of only 80 feet in diameter sometime between 20,000 and 50,000 years ago. Today we believe there are tens of thousands of such objects in the Solar System.
Lagrange Points as Gateways
In 1772 The Italian-french mathematician Joseph-Louis Lagrange published a paper laying out his idea that there would be certain areas within the gravitational fields of any two objects where smaller objects might be caught in a balancing act between the larger object's gravity and the centripetal force needed to hurl them away into space. Earth thus has two sets of what we now call Lagrange ("L") points: Earth-Sun and Earth-Moon. Five locations exist in the Earth-Moon system (and the Sun-Earth system) where spacecraft can balance itself with respect to Earth and the Moon. Two of these points — L1 and L2 — are low-energy gateways or gaps through which spacecraft can pass by expending a minimum of fuel. L points are a "triple threat" when it comes to their utility. They are like mountain passes that can be used to ease travel times, eddies or whirlpool where space materials may be found and harvested, and great locations to stockpile, mine and develop space facilities.
The Earth-Sun L points may in fact be very fertile hunting grounds for asteroids (see below). L points will also make great places for DSI to deposit asteroids we bring back for processing so they are safely removed from any chance of falling to Earth. Also, NASA is considering establishing a mini-space station at the Earth-Moon L2 point (the one on the far side of the Moon) as the first step toward a crewed mission to an asteroid, then to Mars. DSI may deliver a small asteroid to the L2 gateway to provide asteroid-sampling experience to astronauts making periodic visits.
Credit – NASA / WMAP
A "Trojan" Asteroid
The Asteroid 2010TK7 is the first Earth-Sun "Trojan" asteroid to be discovered. About a thousand meters across, it loops in a tadpole shaped orbit around the Earth L-4 point some 50 million miles ahead of us as we orbit the sun. Discovered by NASA's Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) satellite launched in 2009 we believe where there is one there might be more. The blue dots show our orbit around the sun, the green lines TK7s orbit around the L4 point (images not to scale). We believe that where we find one asteroid of this size (around 1000m) there might well be hundreds or thousands of smaller ones.
Credit – NASA
Ion Propulsion
Ion propulsion uses electricity rather than a chemical reaction to produce thrust. An electrostatic field accelerates ionized xenon gas to produce thrust very efficiently but at low power, requiring long duration operation to equal the more forceful chemical engines used in most rockets. The power for the electric field comes from the solar panels you often see on such spacecraft. DSI's Dr. Marc Rayman led the Deep Space I team that built the motor you see here – the first ion thrust system to ever fly on a scientific mission.
Credit – NASA/JPL


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Got Asthma? Thought About Inviting A Few Hookworms To Move In?
- Is it the right time?
- Is anyone watching?
- Does your partner even want to?
- Is your breath fresh?
- Then you lean in and just go for it!!!
- What's the hygiene hypothesis?
Chronic infestation with helminths may also confer protection, but short-lived episodes of infestation may exacerbate atopic disorders.Now, there was an interesting sidelight on the hygiene hypothesis earlier this year with the Increased Levels of IgE and Autoreactive, Polyreactive IgG in Wild Rodents study which is well summarised in From Good Hygiene Comes Bad Allergies. We also learned that Weinstock and his colleagues experimented with treating people with active Crohn's Disease with a solution of pig whipworm in Gatorade. The treatment did bring about remission suggesting that:
it is possible to downregulate aberrant intestinal inflammation in humans with helminths.I reported that I gave myself the horrors by recalling this on a recent sleepless night. I had the idle and frivolous thought that some hapless helminth for which I have a specie-ist revulsion might down-regulate aberrant airway inflammation in humans (e.g., asthma). I doubt it - but, as I admitted at the time, I have nothing on which to base that doubt apart from prejudice.
I was intrigued and repulsed in equal measure when I came across an anecdote by Luckbeaweirdo who claimed to have cured his severe asthma and hayfever by using hookworm. He didn't pull any punches about what happens during infestation:
Walking barefoot in soil contaminated with feces (the source of hookworm eggs/larvae) is the most common method of exposure. The other is inadvertent ingestion of contaminated feces. Note that the hookworm cannot proliferate in your gut, you can only increase your infestation level by coming into skin contact with larvae or ingesting contaminated feces. After skin penetration, the venous circulation carries larvae to the pulmonary bed, where they lodge in pulmonary capillaries. Within 3-5 days, the larvae break through into alveoli and travel up the ciliary escalator from the lungs into the bronchi, the trachea, and the pharynx. This often causes a violent cough such as I experienced. It woke me up, continued for about two hours and was so violent at its peak that I vomited into my mouth. Upon reaching the pharynx, larvae are swallowed and gain access to the GI tract. Once in the GI tract, worms attach to the wall of the lower intestine and begin to feed on the blood of the host. They are intestinal leeches.He helpfully describes the practical method that he has devised to reinfest himself without having to return to Cameroon. I have refrained from quoting any of the most gruelling parts of this interesting piece but thought at the time that few people would be desperate enough to run the risk of collateral infestations and infections from acquiring hookworms, almost literally, in the field.
Now, the BBC has publicised a call for volunteers for a hookworm study in the UK. Researchers are trying to find out if they can use the hookworms or their products to lesson the impact of allergies, asthma or hayfever. I have previously wondered if the rise in the prevalence of asthma and allergies in Africa is linked to improved sanitation and less exposure to helminths. Professor John Britton is leading the research and has previously reported that, in Ethiopia, people living in the countryside are less likely to have allergies but more likely to have parasites.
We found higher levels of asthma in the towns and we believe this was partly down to a lower number of people carrying parasites.The hygiene hypothesis and its variations suggest that people in industrialised countries do not encounter enough challenges to their immune systems to encourage its robust development or maintenance. It is logical to consider that if we co-evolved with parasites, and they contributed to our adaptation to our environment, then ridding ourselves of them over too short a time-period to allow for necessary adaptation can cause further problems. However, I must still confess to queasiness in the matter, despite the rationality. We have to use helminths to distract an over-sensitive immune system? We can't just play it show tunes and smile fetchingly?
The mechanism by which the hookworms are thought to 'distract' the immune system is not well-understood but I can understand why people who have life-threatening allergies or asthma would consider what seems like extreme measures.

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UPDATED: Some DARK KNIGHT RISES tidbits from fans in England & Pittsburgh!
Hey folks, Harry here again... Got an update from Droolsworth Fitzherbert, who had a talk with a member of the advance team for DARK KNIGHT RISES in Pittsburgh, and due to the story on AICN, asked this crew member about blowing up Melon Arena and was told that the production couldn't get permission to blow it up. However, they are going to be shooting at Heinz Field in the film and that there were going to be some pretty hefty explosions within the stadium. So once again, it will be HEINZ FIELD that has the big booms going off, not Melon Arena. FYI! Thanks goes out to Droolsworth Fitzherbert for being Johnny on the Spot with this!
Hey folks, Harry here... Got my nephew for the next couple of days. Right now - he's watching the Marx Brothers classic ANIMAL CRACKERS - and I'm checking the email to see what I can see, but usually Sundays are pretty damn slow... However, today I got two separate and completely different tidbits regarding THE DARK KNIGHT RISES which is currently shooting over in England, but will soon be shooting in Pittsburgh. First - let's take a look at the UK news...
I live in a small suburb on the outskirts of London, called Croydon. Recently some shooting for Dark Knight Rises was shot there.
Link below is from a local paper report, with a few setpics
(the guy in the first photo is wearing a balaclava, its not clear in the pic)
Ok - so we're going to be headed to a Gotham Hospital in this film. Do you really think they're gonna have Bane break the Bat? That's complete speculation, but we'll just have to wait and see.
Next we leap back across the pond to the gleaming zombie utopia of Pittsburgh, where they began EXTRAS casting yesterday... Oswald Cobblepot was there and has some curious dirt....
Hi Harry!
Yesterday was a pretty exciting day here in Pittsburgh as it was the first wave of extras casting calls for a movie codenamed "Magnus Rex". You probably know the movie but for those who don't- it's The Dark Knight Rises. We have been giddy about this since the announcement and from what I hear, the turnout was massive. The reason I wanted to email you was because of who and what they were casting: Thugs, businessmen/women, and tons of SPORTS FANS.
The "Sports Fans" thing is what made me raise an eyebrow. See, a while back there was a rumor circulating that Nolan and Co. talked to our City Officials about our now vacant Mellon Arena (old home of The Penguins) and their desire to blow it the hell up for an epic action sequence. If the production paid for it, it would put them over the percentage mark to get the local tax credit. Nolan would use it in the movie, and all would be right with the world. Of course the Pittsburgh Film Office and everyone else dispelled this as just a rumor. But this call for "Sports Fans" has me wondering. Could there be some validity?
We all know Nolan's affinity for practical effects.
If you use this,
I'm Oswald Cobblepot
Alright... So the tidbits we've learned is that there will be a Gotham Hospital scene... There will be Sports Fans - which brings us to pondering what manner of Sport team Gotham has is... and what they're called. I personally vote for The Gotham Ghouls... Just because if Gotham is going to be Romero's stomping grounds, it'd be a cute nod. Then there's the rumor about blowing up a sports stadium - which if that does happen, we're counting on Pittsburgh fans to capture the big boom for all of us. Right?
Enjoy your Sunday...
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June 12, 2011, 12:51 p.m. CST
The Penguins?
by VanGoghX
Is that hinting at a surprise Cobblepot cameo?
It's the DARK KNIGHT RISES, not RETURNS Harry. I'm hoping the reason they're not calling it RETURNS is so 20 years from now Bale and Nolan can revisit Bats ala Miller's story.
Of course, as soon as I posted that, Harry corrected the error.
June 12, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST
Gotham Sports Teams
by TheMovieLover
Their football team was the Gotham Knights or Wildcats. I think some of their other teams were Gators, Goliaths, and Guardsman I think.
June 12, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST
by HEADGEEK
bah, I still vote for the Gotham Ghouls!
June 12, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST
Uh...is that text auto-highlighted for anybody else?...
by A G
Because that is seriously annoying.
June 12, 2011, 12:56 p.m. CST
behold the awesome power...
by HEADGEEK
This was once a double post, but now, it is a pointless post.
June 12, 2011, 1:01 p.m. CST
Sports Teams...
by VinnyMac666
According to the DC Database the only two sports teams are the Gotham Gators and the Gotham Knights. It doesn't say what sports however. I do know in the BTAS episode Fear of Victory the college football team is the GCU Knights.
June 12, 2011, 1:06 p.m. CST
by BSB
Is he some kind of weird new villain?
June 12, 2011, 1:08 p.m. CST
by Nuck81
It would be a cool end to the Nolan series for Batman to be killed or paralyzed...
June 12, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST
Practicality does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
We all know Nolan's affinity for practical effects.
June 12, 2011, 1:16 p.m. CST
We're only what, 13 months away from this film. I also like the Gotham Ghouls!
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Can't wait.
June 12, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST
by beeter
Tell you what, if Nolan and team can make Croydon look appropriately cinematic they deserve an oscar right there! Dingy, grey and depressing are the most appropriate terms for that place.
Why did only one line of my previous post get posted?! test?
June 12, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
Wearing Greek pastries is the latest rage in England.
by fustfick
You should guys should try it. If you handle all the goddamn rose water. BTW, I really hope Batman doesn't get killed in this movie. It was hard enough explaining to the kids why Superman was in the hospital in that PIECE OF SHIT "Superman Returns."
June 12, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
Geek Pastry?
by Fortunesfool
June 12, 2011, 1:21 p.m. CST
It would be a cool end to the Nolan series for Batman to be killed or paralyzed...
by Subtitles_Off
Yeah. Because it's always cool when, in heroic fiction, the hero loses and ends up a failure. That's if, like, cool really sucks. Good Jeeby Crapmas!
June 12, 2011, 1:22 p.m. CST
Two lines do not exist in this dojo.
by Subtitles_Off
It's a Twitter thang.
June 12, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST
by Smell the magic
Wot a shithole
June 12, 2011, 1:24 p.m. CST
A trilogy of films where every one is great.
by Subtitles_Off
Not counting the first crappy one and the second which was alright but falls apart on repeated viewings. Right on track. On track.
June 12, 2011, 1:25 p.m. CST
"Quotation marks" do not exist in this dojo.
by Subtitles_Off
We don't need no stupid punctuation.
June 12, 2011, 1:27 p.m. CST
Greeks eat ski masks for dessert?
by Subtitles_Off
I was going to say the practical fx are one of the important factors that differentiate BATMAN BEGINS and TDK from the likes of FANTASIC FOUR, SPIDEY 3, and HULK. I watched BATMAN BEGINS a couple of night ago and fuck me it's good. Not just a great superhero movie, but just a great movie full stop. Theres a moment where Batman's sprayed with weaponized fear toxin and you see maggots and bats oozing out of Scarecrows mask. Any other superhero film would probably have CG'd them in but practical looks so much better.
June 12, 2011, 1:32 p.m. CST
Unless I'm mistaken (no....couldn't be)
by kermit_the_fraud
The Gotham Knights was the baseball team that Tommy Monaghan (Hitman) was continually going into debt by betting on to win. I think he won one bet over the course of the comic's run.
June 12, 2011, 1:34 p.m. CST
HAHAHA --Harry didn't Double-Post in the TB
by George Newman
June 12, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST
But definitely thanks for posting some news on a Sunday
by George Newman
coming here on the weekend can sometimes feel a bit bleak, but i still check a couple times, just crossing my fingers. Ya didn't disappoint this time!
Subs, I agree with you on many movies but these two films (unlike most it seems I prefer BEGINS over TDK) I thought were outstanding. Is this how you spell 'diometrically' opposed?! But that's cool!
June 12, 2011, 1:37 p.m. CST
sports fans -- For a UFC-style fight perhaps?
by brechtsky
Seems like a Bane-worthy setup....
June 12, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST
"Diametrically opposed" does not exist in this dojo.
by Subtitles_Off
Our viewpoints are discordant. We have conflicting views. Our conversation on this subject is likely to be irreconcilable. Discordant. Hopefully, not acrimonious. In another word, Cobes, you're just wrong. (wink) BATMAN BEGINS is brown, boring garbage. Fuck me, it's bad.
Hehe.. yes it's pretty 'brown' I'll give you that! But brown and beautiful not brown and um.. shitty...
June 12, 2011, 1:49 p.m. CST
Love TDK, hate Batman Begins
by BillEmic
Begins was a test-run for TDK's greatness; the best thing I can say about it is that it put the right players in place for the sequel. It is an "ugly, brown mess" as another Talkbacker put it. And the other problem is that the story it tries to tell - Bruce Wayne becoming Batman - was told infinitely better and with way more heart and emotion in the animated "Mask of the Phantasm" film.
June 12, 2011, 1:58 p.m. CST
Brown and, um...shitty. You've seen the big super evil from GREEN LANTERN?
by Subtitles_Off
Run, citizens! Run! Evil will stain your shorts! Run!
June 12, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST
I used "discordant" redundantly.
by Subtitles_Off
I meant "dissonant" for one of those. This portion of today's Talkback has been brought to you by Sesame Street.
June 12, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST
Is Bane supposed to be a cage fighter or a UFC-type?
by Tristan
I don't know what Bane's origins are in the comics, but maybe the "Sports Fans" are for a UFC kind of match that Bane is involved in. Is Bane supposed to go to prison in this film and breakout? Can anyone please explain his backstory in the comics?
June 12, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST
"GOTHAM GHOULS?" Obviously you're not a sports fan
by Continentalop
Because if you were you would never imagine a pro-franchise using that as its team name. Sorry, but that is a stupid, stupid team name.
June 12, 2011, 2:02 p.m. CST
And once again
by Continentalop
It should have been the fucking Penguin as the villain in this movie. Bane. Bah. I'll take intellectual foe over physical opponent any day in the great villain department.
June 12, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST
TDK and BATMAN BEGINS are diametrically opposed, uh, sorta.
by Subtitles_Off
And, all indications point to THE DARK KNIGHT'S ENGORGEMENT as being more BEGINS-ish than TDK-esque. Cobes and I will be reserving our separate corners over the next months. But it is cool. Cobes and I know how to disagree.
June 12, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST
Also TDK gets better and better for me with each viewing
by Continentalop
But Batman Begins gets worse, and worse and even worse...
June 12, 2011, 2:06 p.m. CST
Bane, in the comics.
by Subtitles_Off
Was the spawn of two political prisoners in a South American dictatorship propped up by America. Born, raised, and tortured in prison, he was subject to U.S.-sanctioned experiments to increase his strength with the steroid-ish substance called "venom." He broke out of his prison with a chip on his shoulder, and he came gunning to Gotham. (Why he had a particular hard-on for The Wayne family has slipped my mind. Anyone?)
June 12, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
Gotham Knights is the baseball team...
by Jobacca
Gotham Wildcats the football team.
June 12, 2011, 2:08 p.m. CST
'Lop is more than half right, but
by Subtitles_Off
Bane is also, in the comics, intellectually enhanced, not just physically enhanced. He's so smart, he wears a luchador mask. Right? (Comics are dumb.)
June 12, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST
Mellon Arena
by Chaztastic
I'm live in Pittsburgh and there is a group here that's been trying, and failing, to keep Mellon Arena from being demolished and to be given historic status. Since it's an ongoing thing, I'm not sure Nolan would be able to blow it up for the movie. I'd like it to stay, but if it's going to be demolished, this would be they way for it to go. I wanted to go to the casting calls, and I hear they are looking for a lot of people, but my job doesn't give me the 12 hours a day Monday through Saturday availability they are looking for. Here's a link to the details (and there's a video too): http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11163/1153163-53.stm
June 12, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST
It should've been Penguin. Riddler. Fukk, even Man-Bat. Other than Bane.
by Subtitles_Off
Bane is one-note. Therefore, he fits in perfectly with Nolan's one-note Batman universe. But, there are so many well-known villains in the Batman mythology that he could've used, I don't see how anyone can disagree that Bane is a disappointing choice. Mad Hatter'd put more asses in the seats, fer fukksake.
June 12, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST
Subs, they always Bane is smart
by Continentalop
But at the ends the stories involving Bane usually have his plot just be "break the Bat" and ends up being a hand-to-hand fight between the two. Does he really ever show any cunning? Saying a character is smart is one thing, but actually having him pull off ingenious plots is another thing. Penguin has been pulling of ingenious plots since 1941, and having loftier goals than just "must beat up Batman."
June 12, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST
Subs, they always Bane is smart
by Continentalop
"Subs, they always SAY Bane is smart." Obviously I'm not up there with Brainiac 5 with a level 12 intelligence.
June 12, 2011, 2:15 p.m. CST
Right on, 'Lop.
by Subtitles_Off
I think Bane's intelligence was never a source of the plot mechanics in the Batman comics. He was even reduced further in those to be a flunky for Ra's Al Ghul. (Hmm. I wonder where Nolan got his inspiration?) Later, the SECRET SIX comic, which features Bane as a member --- for a couple more months, anyway, until it's re-booted --- made him more of a cunning character. That's what I've been told, anyway.
June 12, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST
And, on the "Ghouls" thing? Yeah. Totally right.
by Subtitles_Off
Frank, what do you expect from today's match-up between The Gotham Ghouls and Bludhaven Zombies?
June 12, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST
Hey, 'Lop. Since TDK gets better and better for you, maybe
by Subtitles_Off
you could e-mail me and explain that fukking retarded ending. If anybody could sell me on that s#!t, you could. I'm not promising anything, but take a whack at the piñata that is "the hero we need, deserve, want, no, need, huh?"
June 12, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST
by windomearle39
Shit - the chavs will have the wheels off the Batmobile before the keys out of the ignition.
June 12, 2011, 2:29 p.m. CST
Wow, the TB really is lopping off whole parts of posts.
by Subtitles_Off
I typed... Sports Teams mascots are always vicious animals or gladiatorial types. They are chosen to express strength. The Gotham Ghouls sounds like a parody title form an old Scooby Doo Meets Batman cartoon.
June 12, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST
And, then I typed...
by Subtitles_Off
Frank, what do you expect from today's match-up between The Gotham Ghouls and Bludhaven Zombies? Well, Buddy, probably some lumbering. Sure, we can expect lumbering. The Ghouls have some of the best lumberers in the league. I don't know if we'll see any brain eating, though. The new rules have kind of squashed a lot of that.
mattman I agree. BATMAN BEGINS feels a very different film to TDK. Watching it again this week I was so impressed by the first hour of the movie. It tells the plot concurrently in three different time periods, Bruce as a boy, Bruce as an angry young man, and Bruce in the present. Flitting between them - with events in each time period informing and effecting the other. What with the training montage and sword fighting stuff with Liam Neeson it's almost like watching a HIGHLANDER movie!
June 12, 2011, 2:39 p.m. CST
by AzulTool
It looks like all signs are pointing towards a broken bat. The interesting part is, at which point in the movie is this going to happen?
June 12, 2011, 2:40 p.m. CST
it's almost like watching a HIGHLANDER movie!
by Subtitles_Off
And, right there, Cobes hits on why BEGINS fails as a Batman movie (for me). Bruce Wayne is an iconic character. He didn't need to be turned into something Luke-Skywalkeresque / Karate Kiddish / Highlandery to be cool. And, Bruce Wayne as a FOCUSED, SELF-DETERMINED young man works. Bruce Wayne as a pouty, sullen, angry little bitch who needs to be set straight by Tom Cruise's wife FAILS.
June 12, 2011, 2:41 p.m. CST
The only thing that bothers me in TDK...
by Frat Boy
are the huge continuity errors. Like major "how the hell did they miss that?" errors. Otherwise, I love that movie.
June 12, 2011, 2:44 p.m. CST
People against Bane don't read the comics... They just remember Batman and Robin
by Andrew Coleman
Also if you think this Bane will be like the one you hate... The pic of Bane should have changed that instantly. I'm sure most of you are hating just to hate. These TB's now are getting known for bitter people like that ranting. But never ever say "The Mad hatter will get more asses is seats." First off the sequel to the Dark Knight could have Egg Head as the villain and make $400 million dollars. Also Mad Hatter would only work in a campy or sci-fi dominant Batman universe, which Nolan isn't doing.
June 12, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST
Yeah, Mad hatter wouldn't work. You're right. Let's go with Bodybuilder in a Sex Mask, then. Alright?
by Subtitles_Off
We've had radioactive vaporizers. Fear gas. Men walking around with gaping wounds on their faces. But, yeah, if you say so, none of that flirts with ridiculousness. Christopher Nolan, Emperor of Nerds. He makes all silly things serious. But, he's above silly things. I mean, really! Mind control? Spandex? Color?
June 12, 2011, 2:52 p.m. CST
Phissy, 'Lop has read more Batman comics than you ever will.
by Subtitles_Off
And, I've read as many as he has. Keep on thinking you're the only one in this universe who knows what there is to be known. It really works for you.
June 12, 2011, 2:59 p.m. CST
Nolan still needs to learn how to shoot better action scenes
by Titus05
blowing up real hospitals and stadiums does not make a great action scene...something always seems missing and a bit bland with his action scenes...the truck flip in Dark Knight was his idea of a great action set piece 'ending' while for other directors that would be in the middle...he needs to learn to put it all together...but then again I don't see him as an action director as he's more of a cerebral filmmaker...that being said he can improve that part of his game
June 12, 2011, 3 p.m. CST
True that, mattman.
by Subtitles_Off
As long as it isn't the Halley Berry Catwoman we're talking about.
June 12, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST
maybe if Nolan embraced CGI more his action scenes would be much better
by Titus05
all this practical shit is holding him back...do people really care if it's CGI or practical?...as long as it doesn't look fake then it doesn't matter
June 12, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST
by THE_CHOPPAH
Therein lies the biggest problem with Nolan's fight choreography. The camera is far too close, so he has to edit more rapidly to get in the other aspects of the scene. Wider shots would reduce the distracting, disorienting effect.
June 12, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST
Sorry mattman and phishy, but Bane is an idiot
by Continentalop
Just kidding. I understand if you like him. As Stan "the Man" once pointed out, every character, no matter how "dumb" or "ridiculous" everyone else thinks they are. I might not like Bane but I can't get upset if you do (I like Marvel's Porcupine and Stilt-Man for Chrissakes). But I will ask, while everyone likes to point out how Bane is so smart, does he really plot that often in the comic books? Or have that intricate of plots? I mean, you say he acts like a grandmaster in chess, but how intricate are his moves other than "beat up Robin" or "take out Gordan" or "beat up an old man named Alfred"? Compare the strategies of Bane with the plotting of the Penguin from the Golden Age, who in an 8-page story hatched a plot of planning crimes for other criminals for 20% of the take, then he would double-cross and whack them, and keep all the profits. Both the cops and the underworld thought the deceased crooks had fled and were on the lam, so no one suspected Pengy was doing anything nefarious and he could continue on his murderous scheme. That. my friends, is a fuckin' plotter!
June 12, 2011, 3:42 p.m. CST
Nolan's fight choreography in the Batman movies
by Continentalop
I hate it, but I do think a big problem is that it is the damn Bat suit. You can't move in it so you almost have to shoot and edit around it. At least that is my theory. But I will also say I am not a big fan of Nolan's style of action direction in other movies as well (Inception for example, the entire skiing incident did nothing for me).
June 12, 2011, 3:46 p.m. CST
I actually prefer the aesthetic of the Arkham Asylum game to Nolan's movies.
by THE_CHOPPAH
They're not so far apart, but the game lets rip the more gothic side of the material. It's also exceedingly terrifying, particularly the stuff involving Scarecrow.
June 12, 2011, 3:48 p.m. CST
continentalop:That was my next point.
by THE_CHOPPAH
It seems that Nolan is hiding the limitations of that bulky ass suit with the close framing.
June 12, 2011, 3:51 p.m. CST
Gargoyles, maybe.
by Mojo-Wan
Gotham Ghouls is not gonna work. I'm thinking most of you guys aren't into football, judging from the popularity of that name. The nickname needs to be physical, vibrant, maybe dangerous, or something related to the history of the area. That's why teams are named after animals, fighting forces, or things like "49'ers" or "Saints" who were named after the song "When the Saint's Come Marching In."
June 12, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST
But, 'Lop! Nolan's bat-suit is so practical! It's body armor! Body armor is real! Ish. Sorta.
by Subtitles_Off
Man, it's the same conversation every time one of these threads pops up its little, bald, non-news head. I'll agree that I can't wait until this movie comes out. So we can all rapidly move defuck on.
June 12, 2011, 3:53 p.m. CST
Somebody, quick, type "Robin."
by Subtitles_Off
Can't wait for the contortions when all the Nolanites see him RISE.
June 12, 2011, 3:54 p.m. CST
You know what is practical and "realistic" Subs?
by Continentalop
Nanotubes. Make the damn Batsuit out of something high tech and plausible like Nanotubes.
June 12, 2011, 3:55 p.m. CST
I saw a cyclist yesterday in nanotubes.
by Subtitles_Off
She was sexy.
June 12, 2011, 4:01 p.m. CST
Sometimes when reading talkbacks...
by Mojo-Wan
I start to understand why nerds are so ostracized... I mean, Batman Begins and the Dark Knight being criticized for any straw that can be grasped. Just like every other movie that will ever be made and be well-received. It's as if you think enjoying an actual movie makes you less of a movie fan. Being a wet blanket gives you the warm and fuzzies. I mean, hey, like what you want. I'm sure I've been accused of the same thing. But you guys hate on film like it's your job.
June 12, 2011, 4:05 p.m. CST
Why Does the Nolan Batman Films Need Exotic Locations (Anywhere I Don't Live Or Been Seems Exotic To Me)..
by MakNeil
when everything comes off dreary. It's as if he sucks the wonder not only out of Batman, but from the very locations where he films at. That begin said, I don't hate his Batman, but I don't recall any of them being visually distinctive. Which reminds me of Inception, which was way too mundane (for a film about entering dreams, that is. The worse of the Nightmare On Elm Street films were more fantastical–not necessarily better films, but more steeped in the fantastic.).
June 12, 2011, 4:06 p.m. CST
In My Second Paragraph...
by MakNeil
I meant "being," not "begin."
June 12, 2011, 4:10 p.m. CST
Any straw that can be grasped.
by Subtitles_Off
Like choreography plot-holes costumes Mere straws. Alrighty. "It's as if you think enjoying an actual movie makes you less of a movie fan." I can't even figure out what that means. I'm a movie fan because I like imaginary movies? I'm not a movie fan because I find BATMAN BEGINS much less than the masterpiece some claim it is? If hating on film were a job, there'd be a whole lot of money in it, because, these days, film is very disappointing.
June 12, 2011, 4:12 p.m. CST
Ssssh, makneil. You're grasping at straws.
by Subtitles_Off
Big, honking, well-put straws.
June 12, 2011, 4:18 p.m. CST
Playable Catwoman? The sixth Mrs. CHOPPAH's gonna love that.
by THE_CHOPPAH
She plays the games 'round here. I like to watch.
June 12, 2011, 4:24 p.m. CST
Bane's attraction...
by Hipshot
He is one of the few villains who ever straight-up beat Batman. Just...kicked his ass. Who else ever really did that? That alone makes that particular story worth retelling.
June 12, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST
I will never understand the fanboy love for Bane
by garybuseys_incisors
One of Batman's greatest foes? Really? Bane was a cash grab by DC and nothing else. In the Knightfall series, Batman didn't even act like Batman. Like Conti said, Bane's "superior intellect" isn't all that superior. Bane was created to sell comic books, and to that regard I suppose the character accomplished what it was set out to accomplish. To be fair I haven't read anything with Bane outside of the Knightfall series, but from what I saw of him there it felt like a cash grab the entire time.
June 12, 2011, 4:25 p.m. CST
Hospital scene is for Alfred
by BoyNamedSue
Alfred is admitted to the hospital for some reason. Michael Caine spilled the beans last week.
June 12, 2011, 4:26 p.m. CST
I live in Purley, Next to Croydon. I used to work at Delta Point.
by SmokieGeezer
I'm not wearing Hockey Pads!
June 12, 2011, 4:30 p.m. CST
I know why they were shooting in Croydon
by D o o d
It's a real shithole. The only place in England where someone had threatened to kill me for absolutely no reason and then my car got towed. A really horrible part of England!
June 12, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST
Gotham Wildcats is the way to go
by elsewhere
Knights just sounds redundant because of the whole Dark Knight thing. Gators reminds me too much of Florida and Ghouls just sounds retarded. Sorry Harry.
June 12, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST
Any reports of Bale throwing a tantrum on set?
by BoyNamedSue
That's what I want to know! If you've heard of anything, then GOOOOOD for you!!!!
June 12, 2011, 4:38 p.m. CST
I read comics, I know Bane...
by Mojo-Wan
And he's as ill-conceived as Doomsday. Hey, Batman, World's Greatest Detective, I wonder what those pipes are connected to that huge pack on his the roid freak's back. Really. I'd prefer Killer Croc. That being said, if Nolan wants Bane, give him Bane. I'm assuming he'll improbe upon the issues I have with the character.
June 12, 2011, 4:47 p.m. CST
Black Mask?????
by cheaptalk
The pictures from Croydon gives a big hint, Black Mask hanging out of the window!!
June 12, 2011, 5:03 p.m. CST
Roman Sionis
by cheaptalk
This picture is a reveal! Nice one Harry for not spotting it! http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Mask
June 12, 2011, 5:07 p.m. CST
BATMAN BEGINS and THE DARK KNIGHT are great movies.
by AsimovLives
I pity the fools who can't understand why.
June 12, 2011, 5:09 p.m. CST
Black Mask in Croydon ...
by GINGE_MUPPET
See that all the time over Croydon way ... total shit hole. They have a decent comic store mind you ...
June 12, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST
He is one of the few villains who ever straight-up beat Batman. Just...kicked his ass
by GINGE_MUPPET
Sort of ... He busted open Arkham so every inmate could mess with Bats and then when Wayne was a total physical mess Bane strolls in a beats him up. He knew 1 on 1 even with Venom that Batman will still own him.
June 12, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST
I think it shoulda been Penguin too
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Bane looks cheesy. Hopefully Nolan proves us wrong.
June 12, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST
Save your pity Asi
by Continentalop
For the condescending know-it-all's.
June 12, 2011, 5:26 p.m. CST
My problem with Batman Begins
by Continentalop
Ok, the entire conceit of the new Batman series is they are going to make it more believable and plausible, right? I mean, Batman is the most realistic super-hero so they are going to make a movie that makes him seem he very well could happen. So what do they do? They make a Batman movie where instead of wondering around studying and learning from a wide variety of experts in actual fields (such as judo, jujitsu, forensics, etc) they have him go on top of a mountain and learn special ninjitsu from a secret vigilante society called the League of Shadows. And then when Wayne gets back to Gotham he has to face a very realistic dilemma of fear gas put in our water than vaporized by a microwave cannon on a giant monorail. Right there they went against the entire premise of the new series. That is why I like TDK so much more than BB, it moves much closer to trying to make Batman feel like he is very much part of the real world and less like a "comic book" movie (and yes, Batman is very much a comic book character but his best adventures were always more detective stories than superhero adventures).
June 12, 2011, 5:27 p.m. CST
Croydon needs a hero
by Judge Dredds Dirty Undies
Not Batman, a town planner with a shitload of cash and a demolitions crew.
June 12, 2011, 5:35 p.m. CST
I seem to recall
by Shubniggorath
When Bane "broke the Bat" he used strategy to weaken Batman to the point where he could be defeated. IIRC, he broke out all the inmates of Arkham and sat back while Batman spent a few weeks getting them all locked back up. Then, with Batman completely exhausted, Bane was able to snap him like a twig. Hey, seems like an obvious plan, but he pulled it off! Of course, when Bruce Wayne healed (Lazarus Pit I think? I really didn't read much DC), he mopped the floor with Bane. I just don't see Nolan lifting an entire storyline from the comics, something he has yet to do.
June 12, 2011, 5:37 p.m. CST
by Shubniggorath
I see Ginge Muppet beat me to it. Good on ya!
June 12, 2011, 5:45 p.m. CST
No, shub. It wasn't a Lazarus Pit. It was much, much sillier.
by Subtitles_Off
Bruce Wayne was healed by the loving, voodoo touch of his current girlfriend, Shondra Kinsolving, who shared telepathic woo-woo powers with her evil twin. She - a sexy, competent black woman. Her twin - a wrinkled, old, white, crazy dude. Yeah, it didn't make much sense to me either. And, I don't think Bruce got to beat on Bane's ass until later (like, a couple years later). It was Azrael, in bat-armor, who kicked Bane's ass the first time. Bruce kicked Azrael's ass when he came back. And, then, he did some back strengthening exercises while Dick ran around in Daddy's clothes for awhile. I could be recalling it all wrongly. I've tried to put it out of my mind.
June 12, 2011, 5:47 p.m. CST
Youve spoiled everything you assholes
by grendel69
This movie has been completelty spoiled for me. Why werent there spoiler tags placed in this thread so I could have known not to come in here to read about things that might happen in a film thats yet to be released. How about having some fucking consideration for those of us who didnt want to know anything about what was gonna happen!!!!
June 12, 2011, 5:48 p.m. CST
Oh yea
by grendel69
I guess all your mothers didnt love you enough and youre life is a empty void and so you feel the need to come here and spoil everything! You all suck!!!!!!!
June 12, 2011, 5:52 p.m. CST
grendel, if I'm not mistaken, if anyone needs to blame his mother for anything, it's you.
by THE_CHOPPAH
June 12, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST
That supposed Arkham asylum footage a few threads back got pulled. Has it been mirrored elsewhere?
by orcus
According to Youtube, the person who posed it closed up their account. Supposedly there was some creepy chanting in it and such. The thread in question is: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49874
June 12, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST
Smell the magic
by DukeDeMondo
Croydon gave us dubstep. Did you forget about dubstep? Clearly you did. But it didn't forget about you, as James Blake's "Also, Here's a Song About Smell The Magic Off The AICN" proves. In addition, it led to some decent jokes on Men Behaving Badly. The point is, I haven't seen Green Lantern. Or the other Green thing with Not Kevin Smith.
June 12, 2011, 7:01 p.m. CST
Bane's over the knee spinal on Batman
by Richard Taylor
I'll bet this happens early on... thinking Nolan and company are going to follow the story laid out in KnightFall-KnightQuest-KnightsEnd.
June 12, 2011, 7:07 p.m. CST
Bane will kick his ass early
by double_l88
I agree richie_t, they will fight early on and Bane will crush him. Batman will have to heal and come back to bring him down.
June 12, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST
Harry, is this the same nephew you showed The Omen to when he was 6??
by orcus
Hello, child services?
June 12, 2011, 7:15 p.m. CST
Has anyone else had a problem posting things with quote marks and brackets?
by orcus
Orcus did a cursory test and they don't seem to come through. This also coincides with folks saying that some of their posts are either not coming through or coming out in pieces.
June 12, 2011, 7:16 p.m. CST
orcus, yeah. I had a difficult time with it.
by THE_CHOPPAH
June 12, 2011, 7:17 p.m. CST
If Bane takes out Batman early, then it's just going to be Nolan's version of ROCKY III.
by THE_CHOPPAH
June 12, 2011, 7:24 p.m. CST
by grendel69
I was joking... being a douche based on my conversation in the Game of Thrones thread.
June 12, 2011, 7:27 p.m. CST
Thanks choppah, Orcus was going nuts with this testing it out in old threads
by orcus
Now Orcus has to figure out if folks were adding their own tags to posts to justify the new restrictions. This kinda reminds Orcus of the old Journeyman thread were we added our own tags to text and TOTALLY screwed up the look of the TB. Hee hee, good times
June 12, 2011, 7:28 p.m. CST
Bane will NOT kick his ass early on ... or what kind of movie would be left?
by golden tribw
Nobody wants to watch two hours of Bruce Wayne doing physio. There's no room for the Shondra Kinsolving/old-naked-jiu-jitsu-lady-on-a-mountain mystical crap, and no time for the massive Arkham breakout (and myriad subsequent bat-vs-goon skirmishes) needed to kick off the storyline -- especially with Catwoman in play. And there's no-one else in the cast to take over Batman duties (I know someone's gonna say JGL but as much as I like him he's too slightly built, and he wasn't in either of the first two so I have a really hard time imagining him just showing up and Bale handing over the keys) so what would happen for 60+ minutes with Batman incapacitated?
June 12, 2011, 7:44 p.m. CST
They will fight more than once
by double_l88
It might actually be like Rocky III, he will get hurt in the first fight and have to come back, and Goldentribe maybe Catwoman could take over Batman's duties, but just be much more ruthless, so not only would Batman have to take both of them out. Either way its a movie we are not going to see him to physio after getting his ass kicked.
June 12, 2011, 7:45 p.m. CST
grendel, I was joking, too.
by THE_CHOPPAH
Your name made it too easy, homeslice.
June 12, 2011, 7:49 p.m. CST
look, you can see Catwoman in this pic
by SantosLHalper
June 12, 2011, 7:53 p.m. CST
This ain't Knightfall ... will just pick out good bits.
by GINGE_MUPPET
As Golden said, There is no time or interest in seeing Wayne recover from a broken back! Bane will just beat the shit out of him and then we watch a crisis of confidence unfold ..... actually that sounds crap as well.
June 12, 2011, 9:07 p.m. CST
by GINGE_MUPPET
I think the whole detective aspect of Batman has been lost along the way when it comes to the movies ... Burton and Nolan have both tried to slip in little nods and winks but most of the time their movies feature a Batman who is not trusted by the police so he rarely gets a chance to work crime scenes and take his time ...
June 12, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST
Batman as Detective
by Continentalop
I think the fact he isn't trusted by the police would actually lead to him being more of a detective. Sure Sherlock Holmes was an advisor to the police and could work a crime scene with them, but detectives like Philip Marlowe and Sam Spade worked very much independently of the law. Because they couldn't expect any help from the police they had to dependent on their own detective skills.
June 12, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST
Auditioning in Pittsburgh
by TDF
Just auditioned this afternoon in Pittsburgh. The key points: 1. The will be needing many extras. 2. Chief desired attributes for extras: those with military, police, martial arts backgrounds or training.
June 12, 2011, 9:53 p.m. CST
Like most people I am looking forward to this film...
by WeylandYutani
I can't wait to see how Nolan et al wraps this up. It may be a minor thing, but I have not warmed to the title. Batman Begins is self explanatory and signaled that Nolan's series is a separate entity to the Burton/Schumacher films. I love The Dark Knight title. It suggests that the second film was more than merely a comic book adaptation and truly an epic crime drama in its own right. While the Dark Knight Rises suggests that it is the direct continuation of TDK story, it is also a bit too derivative of the sequel title and suggests that it does not stand on its own as an individual narrative. I was hoping that the third film would be simply called Gotham, as I do think that the fictional city is very much a character in Nolan's Batman films. Anyway, it's a nuanced, somewhat pedantic issue, but I am not so hot on the third title.
June 12, 2011, 10:07 p.m. CST
Hathaway's ass in a tight latex catsuit
by KilliK
is enough reason for me to be in the movie's premiere.all the rest is for killing time.
June 12, 2011, 10:08 p.m. CST
oh and Duke Nukem Forever sucked major balls
by KilliK
12 years for this crappy game? fuck this shit.
June 12, 2011, 10:54 p.m. CST
Hmmm, interesting about the stadium stuff.
by Sardonic
I can already see that being a really big set-piece, like the car-chase/truck flipping in TDK.
June 12, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST
by Mel
June 12, 2011, 11:05 p.m. CST
Well at least they won't have to worry about scheduling conflicts
by slder78
with the NFL. Might as well make use of the stadium. Hey Nolan, If you really want to blow up a stadium, come to SF. We need an excuse to get rid of Candlestick.
June 12, 2011, 11:08 p.m. CST
I didn't like Batman Begins because...
by Winston Smith
...oh wait, no, I ACTUALLY DID LIKE IT. Because it's a great fucking blockbuster film. Flawed, of course. Yeah I prefer the gothic vision of Burton's Batmans and the new Batman games. And it still had some plot holes and a weaker third act regarding the villains "plot" and stuff like that. But to bitch that, like, Wayne wasn't always determined and resolute? GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. The whole idea of coming to terms with his parents death is IMPORTANT for the character. It humanized him in a very smart way, and gave a real emotional backbone for the creation of Batman. It was realistic enough to be plausible but not so dead set on it that it lost a sense of fun. The Dark Knight, on the other hand, is FAR MORE unrealistic. In that film, the amount of plot holes and just general bullshit far exceeds anything in Batman Begins. You've got Batman blowing cars up without any care for who might be in them, while in Begins you have a car chase where the damage is an actual plot point. In TDK you have the Joker ramming into the front of a bank during rush hour and nobody notices or cares, in Batman Begins the city is getting destroyed and people are fucking REACTING TO WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THEM. In TDK you have a villain who feels like he's from a different film and can do impossible, magical things for no other reason than it's what he does. In Batman Begins you have scarecrow turned into a surprisingly buy-able character, and you have a fucking horse breathing fire and it doesn't look silly. I stand by my point. Why TDK is considered "more realistic" and thus better mystifies me to the same level as politics when people claim the media has a "left wing" bias even though most political commentators are conservative. TDK is not realistic. It's not even fucking close. Just because it takes itself more seriously doesn't mean it doesn't have all the same goofy shit in it. And I bet with TDKR a lot of people will be "disappointed," and somehow I'll think it's the best of the three. I'm really stoked that they're going for a more gothic look to Gotham. My ideal Batman movie would be the visuals and theme of Burton's Batman with the tone and plot density of Nolan's flicks. I guess the game is sort of that, somewhat, maybe.
June 12, 2011, 11:11 p.m. CST
Harry Starred in a Classic
by ltrain109
Hate to hijack the thread. Long time lurker, very limited poster. Was watching STAR WARS Episode 4 with my three year old today. AT 1:45.31 on the DVD Red 6 checks in as they are on their way to attack the death star. He then plays in the next 3-4 minutes before he's shot down. Is it just me or does the guy look just like Harry? BTW can't wait for The Dark Knight Rises. Very stoked. Anyways take a look and see if it really is Harry back in 1977.
June 12, 2011, 11:15 p.m. CST
And I bet with TDKR a lot of people will be "disappointed," and somehow I'll think it's the best of the three.
by KilliK
we share the same belief.i think that's how it is going to turn out.
June 12, 2011, 11:17 p.m. CST
This is going to sound like completely inane nitpicking
by Kammich
But I really, really, REALLY hope there is no scene involving a fictional Gotham football/sports team. First of all, fake sports franchises ALWAYS take me out of movies(with lone exceptions to films like "Slap Shot," because thats a minor league organization). I'm a sports writer, football by trade, and I can't even watch "Any Given Sunday"(arguably one of the best football movies ever) because I groan every time I see or hear the 'Miami Sharks.' Secondly... Nolan's Batfilms have prided themselves on their realism, to the extent of Chicago being an exact stand-in for Gotham. All of that goes to hell for me if I see some fake team with an awkward, photoshop-branded logo running around Heinz Field. This has to be the lamest nitpick for this film ever, I understand... but UGH, its going to kill me if they do this
June 12, 2011, 11:49 p.m. CST
by Dookiestain LaFlair
I haven't read the books and managed to keep myself spoiler free, and am still in shock. Once they killed Boromir Stark I didn't move out of my seat for a good five minutes. I don't think I've ever felt that much impact from a fictional character dying. Lem from The Shield had a little impact on me, and I spoiled Omar's death on The Wire. I realized that on this show no one is safe, but I didn't think that would happen. The worst part of it is they took his honor. The best part is his wife is single, cause she is hot. I think Lady Stark got the better end of the gene pool then her sister, but the lady of the vale is quick to make with a tidday.
June 13, 2011, 12:12 a.m. CST
dookiestainlaflair You're a piece of shit and I hope every single
by slder78
piece of entertainment is spoiled for you from now on. You douchebag motherfucker.
June 13, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST
by thefirerises
Just visit www.thedarkknightrises.com and you'll be able to hear the chanting.
June 13, 2011, 12:21 a.m. CST
Also, Harry has starred in a classic
by thefirerises
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre '03 - still remember my distinct shock when his dismembered head suddenly turned up on screen.
June 13, 2011, 12:35 a.m. CST
by sewer_mask
June 13, 2011, 12:54 a.m. CST
Bane was created to sell comic books
by fat_rancor_keeper
exactly......I prefer the characters that are created that give readers no urge whatsoever to buy the books. jk.........I know what you mean, it's like they had a plot in mind beforehand and created him to fit the bill. But I think he's evolved as a character a bit over the years and I'm sure Nolan will have an interesting take on the character.
June 13, 2011, 1:58 a.m. CST
-I'm sure Nolan will have an interesting take on the character.-
by KilliK
οfc he does.he whtiewashed him for start.
June 13, 2011, 2:43 a.m. CST
Here's a Riddler/Catwoman/Penguin story.
by dcsmith
I wrote this sequel to TDK as a writing exercise. Just putting it out for fun. Feel free to trash it or enjoy it. http://tinyurl.com/378ew9n
June 13, 2011, 3:36 a.m. CST
ΥΟ Continentalop,wazup? so i hear that Penguin wont be in TDKR
by KilliK
June 13, 2011, 5:03 a.m. CST
Even if they're not shown
by elsewhere
I wonder if any villains will get alluded to by name like the Joker did at the end of Batman Begins. I hope so.
June 13, 2011, 5:13 a.m. CST
This won't be Knightfall
by henrydalton
Any more than TDK was The Long Halloween or Begins was Year One. It'll take the idea of Bane as a rough jumping off point and do its own thing from there. So anyone bitching about how rubbish Bane is in the comics - Nolan will be doing his own thing with him and I doubt he's going to make him a two-dimensional character.
June 13, 2011, 5:35 a.m. CST
Batman Begins is a much better take on the mythos than say Burton's films.
by Stalkeye
IMO Batman (1989) was far overatted and underwhelming. The casting of Bruce Wayne/Bats being the no. 1 problem, then you have the flamboyant joker with Prince music (Don't get me wrong, Prince-Nelson Rodgers is a great artist, but not a good fit for this kinda film.) and a shitty final conrontation wheras Batman should have been kicking ass enroute to the tower, only to get his ass kicked by some brotha that looks like a celebrity bodyguard. Oh, and there's that silly dialog from Vale; "when are we gonna learn to love each other"? Wayne hanging upside down? keaton's flabby face under the cowl,etc. Well, at least the set pieces were good. Batman Returns had really ventured into a more dark territory (gothic if you will.) with the penguin planning to murder innocent babies,batman killing off a few of Cobblepot's henchmen, Schreck getting toasted and not to mention an abiguous ending had strayed too far from the comic's roots. Then again, Tim (Burton) is batshit himself. With begins, things are back to form thanks to C. Nolan.
June 13, 2011, 5:39 a.m. CST
by DannyOcean01
If you really can't get past the idea of Bane being a cash grab, and even if you can, and still think the character is one-dimensional, has Nolan ever given you reason to think we'll get a one-dimensional portrayal of an existing character? No. As trolling goes, it's a complete waste of energy.
June 13, 2011, 5:41 a.m. CST
BTW Bane is a boring ass character, do we actually need to see him in another film?
by Stalkeye
Never cared for him in the comics or animated series and I'm not interested in his appearances in film as there are more interesting characters in batman's rogue's gallery. let's just hope this doesnt bomb like Spiderman 3. Bane=Venom (get the connection?)
June 13, 2011, 6:27 a.m. CST
But in BB, Batman essentially leaves a person to die ON PURPOSE
by KilliK
that is not the Batman i know from the comics. Then you have the shitty idea,that Batman had lost his way but then an Irishman who happens to be a ninja (how much ridicilous is the sound of that? even more than Elektra, a Greek woman, becoming a ninja.jesus.) shows him the light and teaches him ninja stuff in an isolated monastery controlled by some shadowy league. then Batman finds out that the league is evil and destroys the monastery.the fuck is this shit? The Batman i know,had the determination and the clear vision since he was a kid to grow up into a man whose abilities,both spiritual and physical,would allow him to not let evil to happen to others like it happened to his parents. THAT was the friggin point of the death of Wayne's parents.That's why he begin a journey throughout the world in order to understand the world and learn from the world,he needed the best of the best to teach him how to become a warrior,a scientist,a detective and a man of honor and ethos. He didnt need some kind of Highlander-sque Ramizer-like white ninja dude to teach him lessons about life and some kind of shaolin shit ideology.the fuck? And you know why i hate the way Nolan fucked up with the origin of Batman in his movies? two reasons: 1.He completely misused the best Batman villain and lost the opportunity to make a masterful movie where the two ideologies of those almost equal people clash. Joker should be used in another movie as a way to look deep into Wayne's soul and mind.Not as a reason for some social experiments like it happened in TDKR.leave that to Riddler ffs. 2.Since young Wayne traveled around the world to become the man we all know (minus the mask),wouldnt have been great to have parallel to the movies,also a tv series where we could watch those adventures of his in a more detail way and witness in depth,his transformation and character progression to what he finally became? something like the Young Indiana Jones mini-series which i found them pretty good. ok BB and TDKR are good films despite their flaws,but they are no perfect adaptation of Batman's true character in no fucking why. savy?
June 13, 2011, 7:39 a.m. CST
HIGHLANDER does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
Since young Wayne traveled around the world to become the man we all know (minus the mask),wouldnt have been great to have parallel to the movies,also a tv series where we could watch those adventures of his in a more detail way and witness in depth,his transformation and character progression to what he finally became?
June 13, 2011, 7:40 a.m. CST
Thank you thefirerises
by orcus
June 13, 2011, 7:42 a.m. CST
Batman has left an enemy to die though
by DannyOcean01
Didn't he trap the KGBeast and then leave him to starve/suffocate? I have a feeling this has been retconned or some bullshit added about him tipping off the police, but Batman isn't Superman. And I really don't see Bane as Venom, or even Doomsday, if we're talking about characters as cash cows. Knightfall had far more substance than the Death of Superman or the symbiote blather.
Im also noticing that the talkbackers who have most problem with Nolans Batman films; Subs, Conti, Killik, are all those who already have a deep connection to the Batman from the comics. I think this is always the way, and a natural part of fandom. Your 'first exposure' to a character, whether it comes from a book or a film or indeed a comic, is always the one that makes the deepest imprint and the one against which other interpretations - rightly or wrongly - are judged. It's not possible to 'unlearn' when you see a film about a character you already have such a connection to, you will always enter it with some degree of bias / prejudice rather than 'fresh eyes'. I'm not saying that a bad thing or a good thing... just that it's a thing.
Oh for fucks sake, the post I put up above got cut down again - Orcus you're right about the quotation marks. If you try and include quotation marks it cuts your post.
Killik, what I was trying to say is that your idea for a parallel tv series where Bruce travels the world sounds sounds a lot like the HIGHLANDER tv series!
June 13, 2011, 7:56 a.m. CST
cobra--kai, Orcus does have a knack of finding odd occurences at this site
by orcus
As we type, Orcus is experimenting with what else may be awry. Such is the burden of the keeper of the Archives :)
June 13, 2011, 7:59 a.m. CST
cobra--kai or Around the World in 80 Days...
by KilliK
try not to generalize that much next time..
June 13, 2011, 8:10 a.m. CST
I was in this 6 Block Long Line...
by ZoeFan
Other "specialties" they were looking for were people with ability in forms of MMA, photographers and bartenders.. not the biggest deal.
June 13, 2011, 8:22 a.m. CST
baboushka.....not balaclava.....baboushka
by Bobo_Vision
You're welcome.
June 13, 2011, 9:08 a.m. CST
Bane? Should've gone with Egghead and King Tut.
by Uncle Stan
Bookworm could've been thrown in as a behind the scenes mastermind.
June 13, 2011, 9:45 a.m. CST
We all know Nolan's affinity for practical effects
by cgih8r
Indeed we do! and we love him for it! It's nice to know with so many lug heads defending CGI, there's someone like Chris Nolan on my side who understands the difference it makes to shoot things real.
June 13, 2011, 10:42 a.m. CST
you do realize that he uses both CGI and practical
by KilliK
and most of the people who defend CGI,they do it against single-minded supporters of practical effects who renounce the use of CGI completely. both methods are good,both they have the ups and the downs,it is up to the creator to use them properly and accordingly.
June 13, 2011, 10:53 a.m. CST
The Mad Hatter could work.....
by cookylamoo
If he took the heads along with the hats.
June 13, 2011, 12:02 p.m. CST
killik, you are a petty man
by Continentalop
And as a fellow petty man, I tip my hat to you...
June 13, 2011, 12:18 p.m. CST
Cobra, I admit that freely
by Continentalop
My connection to the history of Batman the character definitely colors my opinion of the Batman movies. But I am not a diehard DC/Batman zealot who believes in canon and continuity. I mean most diehard fans want to see Batman meet Superman or join the JL. They can't imagine Batman NOT existing in the DC Universe. Not me. I think Nolan nailed it when he said Batman exist in his own separate universe, because this is how Bob Kane and Bill Fingers imagined the character (same with Superman). But my criticism with BB (TDK to me is a much better movie, and my problems with that movie usually involve stuff left over from BB) is that for a movie that tries to present Batman in such realism, why have such an outlandish and comic bookish plot of a secret society of ninja's releasing fear gas thanks to a sci-fi microwave cannon on a ginormous monorail? Even James Bond fans would call this plot ridiculous. And TDKR seems to be heading in the same direction of a much more "comic bookish" plot with Bane and rumors of the return of the LOS.
June 13, 2011, 12:21 p.m. CST
teh suk
by fpuk99
Speculation is part of the reason we have talkbacks. It's fun. You should look the word up.
June 13, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST
Nolan should keep using practical effects
by Continentalop
Once again, the conceit of the new Batman series is that it is as "realistic" as possible. One of the things that makes it feel realistic is Nolan's use of practical effects. CGI is very useful, but it isn't always the best solution and doesn't always have the correct "feel" (just like how a zoom doesn't have the same feel as a dolly).
June 13, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST
I don't want to guess what's the plot of THE DARK KNIGHT RISES
by AsimovLives
I want to be suprised when i finally get tow atch the movie. And could they please change the title? I'm not a fan of it, as it is.
June 13, 2011, 1:29 p.m. CST
Anyways killik, i was comparing Burton's version to Nolan's. Comprende?
by Stalkeye
In returns, Batman came off a bit sociopathic like burning a henchmen via igniting the Batmobile, placing a timed explosive on the Circus Strongman only to have him explode while calmly walking away. Now despite the results being the same, (Death is death from Ducard/Ras a Ghul being left to die or Batman trapping Joker's ankle to some heavy ass cornerstone.) a major difference IMO is that Bats did not intentionally kill Liam's character, he just bailed out and left him to his own devices. The scene at the monestary, did Bruce deliberatly meant to kill the members of the league, or just give them ample time to flee while burning down the house? If he meant to kill the league of shadows/Ghul, then it's a big contradiction since he refused to kill the prisoner accused of murdering some innocent bhutan farmer only to kill some elite vigilante force, who are doing what is within the "best interests" of humanity.(?) Quote: "2.Since young Wayne traveled around the world to become the man we all know (minus the mask),wouldnt have been great to have parallel to the movies,also a tv series where we could watch those adventures of his in a more detail way and witness in depth,his transformation and character progression to what he finally became?" Ok, good concept but it ain't gonna happen since people are more interested in the character (aestetically speaking) as opposed to the man inside.
June 13, 2011, 1:35 p.m. CST
Asi, an interesting post from a fellow talkbacker about said title.
by Stalkeye
I forgot who posted it as a response to my ranting about the title; "rises". He mentioned that flashback scene in which Albert says to young bruce Wayne, "why do we fall, so we can rise". his suggestion of incorporating that scene during the first 2 minutes for TDKR, kinda makes sense if utilized in the right way. I dunno, but said talkbacker gets an A for effort for that explanation. Comments?
June 13, 2011, 1:42 p.m. CST
by Skellington216
The line wasn't "Why do we fall? So we can rise." It was "Why do we fall? It's so we can learn to pick ourselves back up again."
June 13, 2011, 3:26 p.m. CST
Thanks for the correction skellington216 , it's be awhile since I last watched Begins.
by Stalkeye
June 13, 2011, 3:37 p.m. CST
by AsimovLives
Certainly an A for effort. Maybe the talkbacker is Nolan himself in diguise.
June 13, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST
skellington216.youi just made me want to rewatch BATMAN BEGINS again.
by AsimovLives
Damn, i love that movie.
June 13, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST
RE: "Hathaway's ass in a tight latex catsuit"
by WriteForTheEdit
I'd be lying if I said that wasn't also a huge draw for me, too.
June 13, 2011, 5:23 p.m. CST
Realistic expectations
by CreamCheeseAlchemist
The movie is designed for a mass audience. I'm just hoping licensing keeps 1997 in mind when we got the first Huntress figure and the Anarky mini-series on the heels of a movie that seems have been pitched on the notion that just because Adam West's show got its highest ratings with Liberace...
June 13, 2011, 7:03 p.m. CST
RIP Laura Ziskin )0:
by Stalkeye
Thanks for your creative involvement in Spiderman and As good as it gets. Godspeed
June 13, 2011, 7:05 p.m. CST
Cobes hits on it. I'd call it a ground-rule double.
by Subtitles_Off
It is quite true that, since Batman has been my personal fan-obsession since childhood, I'm going to be most critical when an interpretation veers away from the essential elements (as I see them). I think this is why I can enjoy stuff like Spider-man or Iron Man, on film, somewhat. Because, I don't give a s#!t about those characters. So, I'm not expecting anything. But, you do me a slight injustice if you think that is all I have in the quiver, to bolster my BEGINS criticisms --- some kind of unformed fanboy, knee-jerkist, spandex-fetish disappointment. It's just a bad movie. Bad choreography. Bad editing. Bad plot dynamics. Bad dialogue. Bad costume. There's nothing original about it. Little bits and pieces stolen from other artist's interpretations, mushed up, and filmed. Jebus, I'd even seen "Scarecrow on a horse" almost ten years before seeing it in that film. Similarly, Burton's films diverge dramatically from "my" personal favorite Batman, but I don't hate as hard on those two films. You know why? They aren't fukking boring.
June 13, 2011, 7:06 p.m. CST
Come to think of it Asi, I just might re-watch Begins again.
by Stalkeye
especially since I own the Blu-Ray copy. Great film and to be honest, I have watched it 2x more than TDK. Does that make it wrong? LOL
June 13, 2011, 10:08 p.m. CST
gotham geese, gotham gorillas, gotham ghosts
by seabiscuits
gotham grenades
June 13, 2011, 10:44 p.m. CST
by D Ropaela
June 13, 2011, 10:47 p.m. CST
stalkeye and i am comparing Nolan's Batman with the comic
by KilliK
and how he fucked him in some extend.
June 14, 2011, 2:17 a.m. CST
by AsimovLives
I have seen BATMAN BEGINS more ofteh then TDK too, but that's just because BB is 6 years old and TDK is 3. More a question of time then anything else. Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, both great movies. If The Dark Knight Rises is as good as BB, i'll be very happy. I dare not ask for more.
June 14, 2011, 2:18 a.m. CST
People bitch about Nolan and his Batman Begins and yet kisses JJ Abrams' ass over Abrams Trek and fall to their keens in complete geekastic submission to the later?
by AsimovLives
How the fuck this place has gone so wrong?
June 14, 2011, 3:38 a.m. CST
asimov = personofication of Double Standards
by KilliK
because you know,JJ 's Nu Trek fucked up royally the Star Trek Mythology with its numerous plotholes and misinterpretation of the original characters. But Nolan,Nolan made masterful movies who elevated the Batman Mythology despite their numerous plotholes and misinterpretation of the original characters. yep.the dictionaries should have a photo of asimov next to the phrase Double Standards.
June 14, 2011, 7 a.m. CST
by AsimovLives
Don't be daft. Remove the irony from your post and you got that exactly right. It doesn't take a genious to understand why.
June 14, 2011, 7:01 a.m. CST
The hypocrisy of the hypocrisy hunter.
by AsimovLives
Starring too much into the abyss and all that.
June 14, 2011, 9:19 a.m. CST
asimovlives spare me with your semantics
by KilliK
i am only stating the fact mate,nothing more,nothing less.
June 14, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST
Who is kneeling over Abrams Trek?
by Continentalop
Look at the tbers names and i bet you'll see the ones who love the new Trek are probably also the same who seem to think BB is flawless. A lot of people who have issues with BB and even TDK also have issues with the new Trek. So stop trying to conveniently lump everything together to fit your own narrative.
June 15, 2011, 1:28 a.m. CST
was in line...
by darth_ghidorah85
Registered and everything. key things were to always refer to film on set as "Magnus Rex", never say the "B" word especially around "That Nolan fella". I put in my experience with MMA and Security. Most scenes filmed in Pitt will be primarily action-oriented sequences. Exciting Stuff. Also, why is it so far-fetched to think a secret society can exist? I don't know how knowledgeable you are in martial arts, but things like that have existed, and may still. Not entirely sure, but it seems your perception of martial arts is that ninjitsu and other classical styles "don't work". 9 times out of 10 if you put a ninjitsu artist against an MMA fighter, the ninjitsu artist wins. Why? Because in MMA, you're taught to fight with rules, without weapons. You don't train to take a life. So, yes, the League of Shadows is very plausible, maybe not so much in their respective plan to wipe out GC with fear gas and microwave emitters, but as assassins, yes, very plausible. Definitely not trying to come across as an ass, but I figured I'd share a little enlightenment on a controversial subject amongst martial artists of all kinds today.
June 15, 2011, 8:59 a.m. CST
Don't worry, by the Time DK Rises opens...
by cookylamoo
You'll have seen 50 percent of the movie on the internet.
June 15, 2011, 1:15 p.m. CST
by Richard
your script is actually pretty good. I particularly liked your twist on the Riddler's motivations... you balanced the three villains pretty well, too. the only bit that was a bit too over-the-top for me (in terms of setting it in the Nolanverse) was the batcopter. don't think anything like that would appear in Nolan's batman films.
June 15, 2011, 2:18 p.m. CST
Thanks for taking the time, octoburn
by dcsmith
I really appreciate it. And, I understand completely how you feel about the "Batcopter". But the Batmobile drives me nuts sometimes, it would be too easy to follow. If you watch "Batman Begins" when they first introduce the car and have him run from the police, he just turns off his lights and they seem to just lose sight of him. It's a cheat & I wanted to do something,... anything different. But I'm glad you liked the story and I hope the riddles weren't too obvious. Thanks again.
June 15, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST
Thanks for taking the time, octoburn
by dcsmith
I really appreciate it. And, I understand completely how you feel about the "Batcopter". But the Batmobile drives me nuts sometimes, it would be too easy to follow. I wanted to do something,... anything different. But I'm glad you liked the story and I hope the riddles weren't too obvious. Thanks again.
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Whether you're looking for a good restaurant, seeking a general contractor, inquiring about schools, entertainment, volunteer opportunities, or if you're just curious aboutwhat's going on around town, you've come to the right place. Over 1200 businesses in the Tonawanda Region proudly invests in the Ken-Ton Chamber. We thank all of them for their suppport and invite everyone in our community to shart their ideas.
Kenmore-Town of Tonawanda Union Free School District
The Kenmore-Town of Tonawanda School District, Known locally as Ken-Ton , includes the Village of Kenmore and the vast majority of the Town of Tonawanda.It has a community population of approximately 78,000 people and a student population that serves over 8,400 students. Ken-Ton is one of the largest in New York State and has continued to earn its reputation for academic excellence. The district is known for its large number of state and national recognition awards and ranks among the most progressive school districts in the nation. It has a long-standing reputation for excellence stemming from a conscientious and dedicated Board of Education, active community interest, strong parental support, and a staff committed to high educational ideals. The district has thirteen active schools, a separate central administration building, a separate bus garage with a fleet of 119 buses. All staff have district access to the districts Staff Development Center.
Tonawanda Community FCU
The Tonawanda Community Federal Credit Union is truly unique. We are a not-for-profit, member owned and operated financial institution whose main purpose is to satisfy the financial needs of our members. Our not-for-profit status allows us to return excess earnings to our members in the form of lower interest rates for loans, higher yields on investments and savings accounts, and new financial products and services.
Your credit union will celebrate 33 years of service in July 2009. We are now at 20 million dollars in assets with 5000 members.
All accounts at the Tonawanda Community Federal Credit Union are insured to $250,000 by the National Credit Union Administration (NCUA), a U.S. Government Agency. You can trust that your money is safe with us.
People come first at the Tonawanda Community Federal Credit Union. Our members and their families are our most important resource. That's why you can always expect the best possible financial products and services, plus the personal, confidential and courteous service you deserve. The credit union is a non-profit organization with all proceeds going back to the membership in the form of dividends. As a member of the credit union you are an owner.
As we look to the future, we are planning additional ways we can be of even greater service to you. If you have any financial matter that we have not yet addressed, let us know. We invite you to join and take advantage of the many benefits of credit union membership.
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EATON RAPIDS, Mich. (WLNS) - In just five days an Eaton Rapids man has managed to help at least a dozen people get off the streets. With the help of food pantries, donations and his own money, Mike Karl is on a mission to help the homeless.
Our Nick Perreault spent part of the night with Karl and has more this man's journey to clean up the streets of Lansing.
"I'm already showing the affects, my lips hurt, my hands hurt, my feet hurt, But we need to do this and people need to see this," said Mike Karl.
During the day, Mike Karl works at General Motor's Delta Plant, but for the past week, he's been on a mission walking the streets of Lansing, looking for the needy and homeless.
"I hope everybody understands it's important that we need to take care of each other," Karl said.
Because Mike says most don't understand what homelessness is really like.
"Most people don't get to see what real homelessness is," Karl said.
But more importantly, Karl says most don't know who is homeless.
Over the course of a week Karl met marines, college students and a man suffering from prostate cancer, all without a place to call home.
"I was sleeping in the park, I think Tuesday and was approached by three teenagers, they were here out of bad luck, they just wanted to get home, that's all they wanted."
Which Karl admits can be a daily struggle for some.
"Go buy them a meal, you don't have to give them money, make sure that their bellies are full and they're warm."
It's a struggle he knows all too well.
"Eight years ago I was homeless, I kept it from everybody I was ashamed, I was depressed I was hurt, I lived with these people for six months of my life and I've been changed ever since," Karl said.
So for the past three years Mike's been spending one week a year, handing out food, clothes and gift cards, while recording the whole thing for the world to see.
When he started, he was alone, but now others have followed in his footsteps literally.
"It's made it really hard to go home and sleep in my own bed," said Lansing resident Jessep Magoon.
Magoon has been walking with Karl all week. Just five days ago Magoon was a total stranger.
Magoon says it's "because he was doing something that I've always wanted to do and try to do on a daily basis, to give back."
It provides a chance for Karl and Magoon to provide hope to those who call the streets their home.
"I've been out here seven, going on eight years, you've lifted our lives up," one man said.
Lifted their lives and spirit.
"You guys don't know what you've done for us, because out here you've got to survive, you're helping us survive and we love it, we love all you people for doing it."
Some have referred to Karl as "The Homeless Angel", but he says he's just a man trying to help a community.
"I'm nothing but a regular guy."
And Mike Karl isn't afraid of tackling or having such a lofty goal, which some might say is unattainable.
"I'm Mike Karl, this is what we do, just plain and simple, I'm very passionate about what I do, I will walk until my feet fall off. If that's what it takes to get this noticed, then I'll do it."
Karl also had some help handing out items from Shelley Gilpin from Homeless Outreach and Ministry Equipping, a non-profit that has been doing similar work for the past 4 years around the state of Michigan in Detroit, Grand Rapids and Lansing.
Mike Karl will wrap up his week by walking from Lansing to Eaton Rapids.
2820 East Saginaw Street, Lansing, MI 48912
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This video illustrates that by working less our economy could thrive, and we would have more time to pursue the things we love.
The Plentitude Economy (Video)
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I am wealthy. (time wealth vs. cash wealth)
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"What do you do all day?"
That was a question I was asked by a close friend the other day. She had the same incredulous tone I know I had when I worked 9-to-5 and often asked others the same thing. It's unfathomable for working folk – a full day every day to do what you want. How could one possibly fill the time? Wouldn't you get bored? [Read more...]


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Geo LocationMarch 30th, 2010
Interesting article on Smashing Magazine that talks about how Geo Location takes a big part in today's web development. Simply using IP address and tracing down the location of user. This article shows different online tools and examples with code to help you have a better understanding on this topic, also comment the advantages and disadvantages of different online services.
Why Geo Matters
First of all, why is it important to consider physical location on this planet (at this moment) when we develop Web products? There are a few answers to this.
The first answer is mobility. The days of people sitting in front of desktop machines at home are over. Sales of mobile devices, laptops and netbooks have overtaken those of bulky stationary computers in the last few years. The power of processors now allows us to use smaller, more mobile hardware to perform the same tasks. So, if people use their hardware on the go, we should bring our systems to them. Which brings us to the second—very important—point: relevance.
Giving the user content that is relevant to the physical space they are in at the moment makes a lot of sense. We are creatures of habit. While we love the reach of the Internet, we also want to be able to find things in our local area easily: people to meet, cafes to frequent, interesting buildings and museums to learn about. The advertising industry—especially of the adult and dating variety—realized this years ago.