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Ahhhhhh, Winter In Gotham City...
Merrick here...
An AICN reader named Trevor sent these in from Pittsburgh (which we really appreciate); he caught a glimpse of THE DARK KNIGHT RISES filming and managed to grab a few snapshots...
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Aug. 11, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST
by irc-Hollywood
and why is it movies with snow tend to always be awesome? The Thing, Shining, 30 Days of Night, Batman Returns, Fargo, etc, etc,
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:44 a.m. CST
by Jubba
chilly looking
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST
I know nothing about this film....
by notcher
AND I LOVE IT!!! Except Hathaway, not sure I'll ever be sold on her.
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:46 a.m. CST
Praying there's Christmas element
by Reasonaxe
Movies that have Christmas attached to them also seem to be so much more awesome. Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Batman Returns, etc
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST
Pittsburg has an early winter
by Sirius_crack
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST
MR. FREEZE is gonna be in this one.
by God's Brother
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:48 a.m. CST
Actually, if these pics were for the next Die Hard...
by notcher
Then I'd get excited. Wish Die Hard would return to the Christmas theme.
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST
It's a new white foam rubber...
by fred
which actually on screen looks more like snow than snow Now this afternoon we're going to shoot the scene where Scott gets off the boat on to the ice flow and he sees the lion and he fights it and kills it and the blood goes pssssssssshhh in slow motion.
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:49 a.m. CST
Gotham City for the ghetto
by dvdmike
city of justice, a city of love A city of peace, for everyone of us
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:50 a.m. CST
by Baralatar
The snow is a result of a weather control device gone horribly wrong, leading to the mutation of a mild-mannered scientist into - wait for it - MR. FREEZE! What's not to love, especially since Ah-nold is looking for work again.
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:51 a.m. CST
irc-hollywood - I agree
by skywalter
You forgot the king of all movies with snow, The Empire Strikes Back
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:58 a.m. CST
by THX1968
Looks remarkably like St. Paul, or Milwaukee, or Chicago I suppose. I've never been there.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:01 p.m. CST
by solanine
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:04 p.m. CST
Man, Gotham has a cocaine problem
by Continentalop
And fuck is Batman and Gordon useless if they can't stop that much blow from hitting the streets.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:07 p.m. CST
reminds me of the Batman Returns symbol with all the snow
by Jesiah
Say what you will about the movie but I really dug that image with the yellow ellipse being white and the snow being blown across it. Although the crumbling Gotham buildings with the negative space being for the bat symbol for The Dark Knight Rises is pretty damn good too.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST
Still want to know what the deal is with the not-bat-black tumbler.
by tylerzero
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:09 p.m. CST
Hate to be the guy who's gotta sweep that up
by art123guy
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST
They're filming on WOOD street...
by Richard
/Butt-head impression
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:17 p.m. CST
tylerzero, the tumblers
by chronicallydepressedlemming
belong to Bane and his army. What's unclear is how they got hold of the tech. I'm guessing since Batman is no more at the start of this movie that Wayne Enterprises has been selling the Tumblers as they were originally intended...or they stole them.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:22 p.m. CST
So What's with the Tumblers
by doom master
All of a sudden everybody got tumblers. Maybe Bane is under contract to show up Batman and take his glory, or hunt down the Batman using mob tactics, all thanks to Ra's' knowledge and exploits. This would make sense since the last film had Batman on the run... Still having someone else using Tumblers is stupid.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST
I guess the villians have batman tech
by eric haislar
why else would they have tumblers. Interesting.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:26 p.m. CST
by Darth Busey
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST
@art123guy They hose it down
by Xilian
and it goes into the sewer.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:27 p.m. CST
Chill out!
by Spandau Belly
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:33 p.m. CST
Can we get a damn spoiler warning??
by Rob
Now we know there is snow, and we know there are buildings and streets, and we know there will be a character named "Batman" in it!!! Thanks a-holes!!
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:35 p.m. CST
Ice to see you!
by basilofbakerstreet
Looks like Mr Freeze is a "behind the curtain" villain, blanketing Gotham in a blanket of snow blankets!
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:44 p.m. CST
that snow looks wrong!
by fat_rancor_keeper
they cant get anything right on this damn movie
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:46 p.m. CST
Why da snow gotta be white?? RASIST!
by Rob
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST
by KoolerThanJesus
It sure does seem like there's a lot of exterior daylight filming in this one versus the previous 2.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:47 p.m. CST
by mick vance
has come at last...
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:52 p.m. CST
the snow in the middle of summer, Mr. Freeze reference here?
by brocknroll
Just a prediction...
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:53 p.m. CST
Does this mean Arnold Schwarzenegger is in it?
by SifoDyasJr
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST
The Production design needs to put some fake snow on the buildings.
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Every window sill, every nook, every cranny. Snow tends to melt where there's tire tracks. Big old fake looking. How much digital manipulation is going to be used to make it look realistic? Is fake snow really more economical than filming in the snow?
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:54 p.m. CST
by eric haislar
I am assuming if they are going to follow knightfall at all. bane is trying to ware out batman. So keeping him up all hours of the day will do that. If hen knows batman operates at night why not do shit during the day to keep him from resting. Just a thought.
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:55 p.m. CST
Remember when the Batmobile was cool looking?
by krabklaw
Instead of looking like something that Junior made out of Legos?
Aug. 11, 2011, 12:57 p.m. CST
I spot four plot holes already...
by Billy_D_Williams
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:03 p.m. CST
Pittsburgh is a shit hole.
by Mr Soze
Longest weekend of my life
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:05 p.m. CST
Catwoman and Winter...
by Dave Catanese
Merry Christmas Alfred, Good will towards men...and women!
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:11 p.m. CST
Camouflage Tumblers....
by Quake II
I'm seeing the desert camo Tumbler (Batmobile) in almost every shot from the production of this film. Did Bruce just decide not to paint it or has someone else stolen/purchased Wayne Tumblers and is using them as armored cars to bully the citizens of Gotham? I have afeeling that Bruce isn't driving these Tumblers showing up in these recent pics.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:12 p.m. CST
Love for Batman Returns baffles me
by Geektard_Smasher
ok, at the time it seemed good because it was so frenetic and over the top. Years later you look at it and realize Burton sucks dick. Penguin running around the sewers with a big shit stain up the back of his underwear? Poodle ladies being some kind of threat? Clowns being able to modify super high tech auto computers? Batman using rocket jets to kill fire breathers? Catwoman gangbanged back to life by ally cats? It was like some weird tranny cirque de soliel. Walken was the only good thing about that movie.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:14 p.m. CST
People in the area must be thinking the Snowpocalypse continues!
by Kikstad
I hate snow. :)
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST
With all this snow,
by Rob
Catwoman's nipples better be super hard the whole movie... I'd love to be the Teamster that rubs ice over her nipples before each take!
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:17 p.m. CST
Batman Returns is horseshit with hay in it.
by AzulTool
Boring, Anton Furst-less, Tim Burton infused garbage.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:20 p.m. CST
People in shorts
by korahn
People in shorts and t-shirts with snow around? I never knew Gotham was in Canada.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:23 p.m. CST
One too many.
by Sean
Note to Hollywood. Start stopping after two movies.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:26 p.m. CST
by Kikstad
I'll be curious to see if it was really necessary for this to be shot in snow -- they're burning money, man. But if the script calls for it, so be it.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:28 p.m. CST
they dont have to keep icing catwomans nips
by TheJudger
Just a few piches or flicks, chased with a coat of clear nail polish to keep them erect. God I love special fx.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:36 p.m. CST
Camo tumbler, obviously
by Turd Furgeson
talia is helping Bane and uses her knowledge of Bruce/bats to gain access to hidden items within Wayne enterprises to help Bane and his army. I wouldn't be surprised if he has some other batman items we haven't seen yet.....
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:40 p.m. CST
And frankly
by Turd Furgeson
I think Tom Hardy is a great actor but shouldn't Bane be naturally bigger and taller, like the guy that played Michael Myers in the rob zombie abomination.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST
Bane's Tumblers explained.......
by connor187
Marion Cotillard plays the character Miranda Tate, a Wayne Enterprise board member....yes? It is well known that she is also Talia al Ghul....you following me? Well I think it's pretty fucking obvious that she will pull a fast one over Lucius Fox and let her buddy Bane have what he wants out of the applied sciences department. Easy when you think about it.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST
by THE_CHOPPAH
That much cocaine is never a problem.. just another moonlight mile..
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST
by KoolerThanJesus
That's a good point about Bane's methods in Knightfall. Yeah, I've read it. Since this Batman doesn't have the rogues gallery of the comic Batman, it would be a great way to wear him down. One of my favorite scenes from Knightfall is Alfred coming in to find Bruce passed out in the Batman suit sans cowl in a chair in his bedroom.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:43 p.m. CST
Batman Returns should have been titled:
by theDORK
Batman Goes Away. Couldn't agree more with Azultool's take on this piece of cinematic garbage.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:44 p.m. CST
I don't know ...
by Cruizer Dave
The Bane stuff so far has been unimpressive. The football stadium stuff ... I can't think of a reason to shoehorn that into a Batman movie. The last time Batman was in snow, Batman Returns, was shit on a stick with shit sauce. Catwoman, well, so far isn't. I loved the last two Nolan movies, but I don't know about this. I don't know that this is going to live up to the previous two. I'm getting scared.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:46 p.m. CST
Batman Returns was awesome.
by knowthyself
Deliciously creepy take on Penguin and Catwoman. It was weird and sexy and just awesome.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:55 p.m. CST
3 camouflage Tumblers and 1 black Tumbler
by Prof. Pop-Cult
SPOILERS AND SPECULATION (THAT COULD BE SPOILERS): The 3 camouflage Tumblers are provided to Bane and his army by Talia, who sits on the Wayne Industries board of directors (but she is using an assumed name, much like how her father used a fake name in Batman Begins). We know there are three kinds of camouflage Tumblers: one has a built-in anti-aircraft or anti-missile launcher -- pictures on the set reveal it with its launcher extracted. The second one could have a tank-like artillery cannon (we haven't seen spy shots of its cannon, if it has one, extracted). The third one could be just like Batman's -- its Batpod (or "Bikepod") may be the one Selena is driving in the production shots that Warner Bros. has released. The black Tumbler has been spotted in Pittsburgh. Does this mean that Batman commandeers the corresponding camouflage Tumbler from Bane and paints it black? This is just my guess, but I suspect not: it is returning for a flashback sequence, which could either be in either the first or second scene of the movie. (We know there is a scene with a young Ra's al Ghul, and this could be another flashback scene.) So the first two scenes/sequences could be two separate flashbacks where we get to see Ra's al Ghul and the beloved black Tumbler again.
Aug. 11, 2011, 1:59 p.m. CST
Batman Returns was awesome?
by THE_CHOPPAH
Sure it was. One of Tim Burton's finest. Up there with Mars Attacks, Planet of the Apes, and Frankenweenie.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:01 p.m. CST
I especially love the part where the Penguin shits himself and dies
by THE_CHOPPAH
Quite a formidable villain. He really presented a challenge for Batman. "Watch me lose my political campaign and die. Take THAT Batman!"
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:03 p.m. CST
Batman Returns also had some stellar dialogue
by THE_CHOPPAH
Batman: You're not the mayor. Penguin: Things change. Penguin: You don't really think you'll win do you? Batman: Things change. HOLY SHIT.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
Don't cross the Penguin, or he'll point an umbrella at you and die!
by THE_CHOPPAH
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
by Lemure_v2
Everything you've just put Batman Returns down for is what makes it great. It's one of a few true comic books movies, and every single one of those elements that you dislike is exactly what you would find in a comic. And the score is fucking fantastic.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:07 p.m. CST
those BTS pics from TDKR are starting to be boring.
by KilliK
how about BTSP from the Sumerman reboot instead?
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST
Maybe they will use forced perspective/ undersized props
by jarjarmessiah
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST
choppah, hahahahahaha
by Billy_D_Williams
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:09 p.m. CST
in order to make bane look bigger
by jarjarmessiah
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:10 p.m. CST
@ choppah
by Lemure_v2
Penguin was pretty formidable: terrorising Gotham, framing Batman, trying to kill all the first born sons, and then trying to destroy Gotham. And that dialogue may be corny, but it's exactly what you find in any comic book. Having a go at Batman Returns for that is like criticising a dog for having a wet nose.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:11 p.m. CST
It's also 'awesome' when Batman stares blankly as the Ice Princess plummets to her death
by THE_CHOPPAH
Because, you know, he can't shoot a grapple and save her or anything... like he did with himself and Vicky Vale in the FIRST MOVIE.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:12 p.m. CST
Loved Batman Returns...
by Flutchy
...and still do. Had the courage to be dark when it wasn't trendy yet to be so.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST
Citizens Bank AND First Niagara???
by MrFusion
This movie is going to be EPIC
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:13 p.m. CST
Why do i get a Long Halloween vibe from the pics
by KilliK
and a feeling that JGL will turn out to be Alberto Falcone?
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:14 p.m. CST
lemure_v2, yeah, Penguin's plan for killing Gotham's firstborns was airtight
by THE_CHOPPAH
He sends his circus freaks to collect them all on a train. Wait a minute. ALL of Gotham's first borns? On a little circus train? So, Gotham only has like 100 first born sons? Small town.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:16 p.m. CST
Not-black-tumbler = stealth mod to drive unnoticed
by KilliK
through snowy locations like in those in the pics.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST
City snow is NEVER that clean... LOL
by impossibledreamers
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST
@the_choppah i thought the babes were only from
by KilliK
the most powerful families in GC?
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:19 p.m. CST
Batman Returns 'Had the courage to be dark when it wasn't trendy yet to be so.'
by THE_CHOPPAH
Oh really? Let's take a look at a few movies released in 1992, shall we? Dracula, Alien 3, The Crying Game, Death Becomes Her, Twin Peaks, Bad Lieutenant, Single White Female, Reservoir Dogs, Basic Instinct, Unforgiven. Yeah, no dark movies in 1992.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST
Batman: "Sewers? Are they ridiculously oversized sewers?? Oh good, this will be my ONE chance to finally use that weirdass bat-ski-boat I designed one day when I was bored."
by THE_CHOPPAH
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:22 p.m. CST
@ choppah
by Lemure_v2
The circus train - I think they were planning on making more than one trip, haha.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST
My name is Freeze, remember it well . . .
by Nico Toscani
for it is da chilling sound of your doom!
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:24 p.m. CST
Batman: "Luckily these sewers have no pipes or wedges of any kind. Perfectly smooth surface for my delicate bat-ski-boat. OH FUCK, A LEFT TURN!"
by THE_CHOPPAH
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:26 p.m. CST
Batman Returns
by Richard
the only thing Dark about the movie is the lighting. throw in neon lights and nipples, and you've just got another Schumacher movie. and that's coming from someone who LOVED Burton's batman films... as a child. read these two reviews (well, one review, split in two) then rewatch the movie. I saw it, you'll see it. that movie's got some ridiculous Bullsh*t in it. http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/06/06/batman-returns-review/ http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/06/13/batman-returns-1992-review/
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:28 p.m. CST
by Lemure_v2
I think that person meant it was brave for a superhero movie to be that dark. This is after all a film rated 15 with sado-masochistic influences...that had Happy Meals made for it. McDonalds were not best pleased. Don't see that nowadays. And the bat-boat thing? Welcome to the world of merchandising opportunity. Stick that in there and everyone will want one. Nothing that every other comic book movie doesn't do.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST
@ octoburn
by Lemure_v2
Show me a film that doesn't have an error somewhere. No such film.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:30 p.m. CST
jackpulliamiii Did anyone get your......
by niccageshairpiece
Monty Python reference. That was awesome!!
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:31 p.m. CST
Yes, I'm going to defend Batman Returns
by Lemure_v2
It's a perfect comic book movie and until Nolan came along was the film most faithful to the comics in every way.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:35 p.m. CST
lemure_v2, 'how me a film that doesn't have an error somewhere'
by THE_CHOPPAH
A friend of mine tried that defense after making me watch Battlefield Earth. He's dead now.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:35 p.m. CST
by THE_CHOPPAH
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST
Batman Returns was...
by Kamikaze_red
a Tim Burton movie with DC characters in it. It has its moments but clearly not faithful to the source material at all. I always felt they mixed up the Joker and Penguin. Shouldn't Joker have had the circus freaks and Penguin the gangsters? Makes more sense to me.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:36 p.m. CST
But why couldn't you fight a penguin?
by fred
It needn't be a little penguin. It can be the biggest penguin you've ever seen. An electric penguin, twenty feet high, with long green tentacles that sting people, and you can stab it in the wings and the blood can go spurting psssssshhhh in slow motion. at least it ties into Bman Returns
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:38 p.m. CST
Batman: "Sure, my cape can glide... but I might as well use this metal glider thing magically stored under my cape, so I can fly dramatically over the crowd after NOT saving the Ice Princess. They'll love that."
by THE_CHOPPAH
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:42 p.m. CST
=I think that person meant it was brave for a superhero movie to be that dark.=
by KilliK
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:45 p.m. CST
I agree
by Kamikaze_red
It was very bold for that film to be as dark as it was and as weird. It's not what the public expected and it pissed off Warner Bros enough to say bye bye Burton. Which is why we got the next two films.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:46 p.m. CST
Tim Burton wasn't trying to be brave or daring. He was trying to be Tim Burton.
by THE_CHOPPAH
He simply applied his dark, warped style to a Batman picture after being allowed too much freedom from WB. He was kept in check on the first film, and that's why it is far superior to Returns. Sure, Batman Returns is a beautifully gothic movie... but the characters within are Batman, The Penguin, or Catwoman in name only. The style was as inappropriately over-the-top for the source material as the new Spider-Man musical.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:48 p.m. CST
What is with all the leaked imagery...
by ckone
I have to say, I am not digging the way that things are just leaking out from this movie. I don't want to see the suits and costumes for the film until they are on screen, 'cause they always look terrible anywhere else. I hated the original Batsuit from Begins, and noticed that they hid it well in the movie with a ton of blacks everywhere, but online you can see every ugly crease. The studio shot of Bats on the Cop car in full armour was all I needed to get hyped up for Dark Knight, and if I remember correctly, there was scarcely a leaked image that time. Now this, open daylinght Bane, Open daylight Catwoman..and everything is underwhelming me so much, but like a trainwreck, I can't stop looking...so it's up to you AICN stop perpetuating these leaks...
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:49 p.m. CST
waltere.kurtz is a magical negro
by DVaderRIP
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:51 p.m. CST
That's not snow
by Snookeroo
it's Giant-Man's dandruff.
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:54 p.m. CST
by Matt
Great Monty Python reference! That's one of my favorite episodes of Flying Circus :-)
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:55 p.m. CST
A Tim Burton movie with DC characcters in it
by Billy_D_Williams
Aug. 11, 2011, 2:56 p.m. CST
A Tim Burton movie with DC characters in it
by Billy_D_Williams
isn't that the point? film is a director's medium...if you want accuracy, stick with the fuckin' source material. I like that Burton took the characters and made them his own...hence A Tim Burton film? hello?
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:03 p.m. CST
by Mattman
I agree to a point. If you're adapting iconic characters, you should maintain the spirit of those characters. I wouldn't mind the fact that Gotham is set in a snowglobe if Batman wasn't a homicidal sociopath, The Penguin was actually intelligent and not so disgusting, and Catwoman wasn't a supernatural psychopath. These aren't the same characters from the comics.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST
by sickerandsweeter
Someone seriously needs to take control of the photos being taking on this set! We don't need to keep seeing all these images of the Dark Knight Rises before it comes out! Aintitcool keeps posting new pics! I haven't looked at any of them but this one. Gots to save it for next summah!
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:06 p.m. CST
They need Batman as a PA
by sickerandsweeter
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:07 p.m. CST
Of course Batman Returns was a Tim burton movie
by Lovecraftfan
Tim burton made it. It was directed with a distinct style. Batman Returns might not have been the "true Batman" whatever that is supposed to mean but it was unique, fascinating, witty, with some great actors doing great turns.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:11 p.m. CST
Timmy! Burton's Batman movies were TIMMY!!!!
by HarryBlackPotter
Which is is to say retarded.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:13 p.m. CST
Batman Returns is so 'witty'
by THE_CHOPPAH
Penguin: I can't wait to teach her my french flipper trick! David Mamet only wishes he could write dialogue that witty.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:24 p.m. CST
by Kamikaze_red
So because a director is directing a film he can piss all over the source material which is the very fabric that makes up the movie he's making? He owes nothing to the original creators of the original material? I think he does. If Burton wants to make a film that he wrote then yeah, he can do whatever he wants with it. Something like Batman, that's a different story. I personally think the movie is ok. I don't hate it but I always felt Burton took way too many liberties with it.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:27 p.m. CST
Shades of Batman Returns, huh ?
by MattHooper
I guess Tim Burton isn't such a loon after all, now is he ! LOL Sorry, that just struck me as funny.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:28 p.m. CST
finally, the chance for the Batman franchise to...
by i_got_worms
...sing 'jingle bells, Batman smells, Robin flew away'
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST
@ kamizake red
by Lemure_v2
Pissed all over the source material? I take it you don't read many comics. Batman and all the other related characters have been adapted and reinvented countless times. Burton was only doing what every single comic writer before him had done.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:33 p.m. CST
Speaking of Penguin somewhere between the late 80's and early 90's. I was quite suprised to read 2 DC books & find out how agile he was & how halfway descent of a fighter he was/is.
by MRJONZ72
Wonder if they still portray him in that same way in the books.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:34 p.m. CST
@ choppah
by Lemure_v2
Penguin's dialogue is lecherous, which is how Burton reinvented him. That's exactly the kind of dialogue you'd find in a comic, and exactly why Mamet doesn't write comic books.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:38 p.m. CST
Batman Returns could be the best Batman film
by Lemure_v2
Esepcially if you're talking about keeping true to the source material. The tone of it and the look is closer to the comics than any other movie since. Everything about it could have ripped directly from the comics. I do love Nolan's version, but he's taken Batman away from the comics. I miss the imagination of Burton's films.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:39 p.m. CST
by Kamikaze_red
The fact that I have read the comics is the very reason why I have the opinion I do. I am very aware of the source material. I have no issue with minor changes or adaptions but I am not alone in my belief that "Returns" went a little too far. Again, I did not hate the movie and I am not bashing it but I felt Burton went too far with his quirky bullshit. Poodles catching bat-a-rangs, Mutant penguin baby? I don't recall that from the comics? That's a pretty fucking radical change.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:43 p.m. CST
'Batman Returns' is the greatest cluster-fuck in the history of sequels
by SmokingRobot
People LOVED the first 'Batman'. That summer everyone was 'bat crazy'. It was like the Beatles. Then 'Returns' came out and sank like a stone. It was so pointless and badly written. People just hated it, and with good reason. Burton killed his own franchise and damn quick. We should have had five Keaton Batman films, each as good as the original. Instead we got a lot of crap. Nipples. George Clooney. Crap. HUGE lost opportunity.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:47 p.m. CST
@ kamikaze red
by Lemure_v2
Or maybe it's because Burton is a brave director who isn't afraid to move away from mainstream and take the characters further. Things like mutant penguin baby - how else do you introduce the Penguin? Poodle catching batarang would seem far-fetched if it wasn't a circus poodle. You missed the obvious one where they stand still and let the batarang hit each of them. C- Must try harder.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:52 p.m. CST
@ smoking robot
by Lemure_v2
The reason Returns wasn't as well liked is because Burton did his own thing with the characters, much like Spider-Man 2 which traded action for character - turning off a lot of people. Batman Returns did absolutely not sink, it was still a huge success and made a fat profit - 200million. people were turned off by the darkness of it, and yet Batman IS a very dark character. Burton saw this. I wish we'd had 5 Keaton films, blame the studio. They wanted to go lighter, not Burton.
it's funny how people are griping because Batman slight-of-handedly MAY have violated his "one rule" in both Begins (Ras on the monorail) and Dark Knight (Two Face) but completely overlook the fact that Batman straight up murders people in Burton's films on a regular basis. @lemure: I don't mean "errors" I'm talking about straight up stupid, ridiculous bullsh*t. the whole Max Shreck power plant thing never has a pay-off, after many scenes of set up. the Penguin is a very undefined character, who basically has different motivations and personalities for every scene in the movie. why the fuck does every parent in Gotham leave their children completely unattended, so they can go to a dance? I still like the movie, but watching it as an adult, I can see why I liked it when I was 11... but the story/"plot"/script is just such a clusterf*ck it's hard to get who's doing what for what reason.
Aug. 11, 2011, 3:59 p.m. CST
by Kamikaze_red
Well as I said, not trying to bash it. I own it and I watch it on occasion. It's certainly a cut above the Schumacher films but it was dissapointing overall as a "Batman" film. We want these films to be about Batman right? Not Max Shreck.
Aug. 11, 2011, 4:03 p.m. CST
@ octoburn
by Lemure_v2
It's because in Nolan's films they make a point of Batman never killing. Burton explores other aspects of the character, and Batman had a gun when he started out anyway so there is no right or wrong.
Aug. 11, 2011, 4:07 p.m. CST
Geezus, It Must Suck To Haveta Make A Moviefilm In This Heat!
by NeonFrisbee
How the hell isn't Batman passing out left and right? It must be hot as fuck in that suit.
Aug. 11, 2011, 4:22 p.m. CST
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
no spoilers. I gotta take AICN off my bookmarks.
Aug. 11, 2011, 4:34 p.m. CST
Batman Returns
by the_scream
Great production design and costumes. The bat costume is up there with the Begins costume as the best. The performances are also excellent and memorable. But it's a pretty flawed movie. Even as a kid I remember being bored to death. The Penguin plot is simply not interesting and forces you to believe the people of Gotham are all idiots. So, he saves a baby and then the people of Gotham want to elect a mutant penguin man from the sewers? What kind of bizarre coincidence has a baby born like a penguin and then dropped in the sewer where he is raised by...penguins! What? And the obvious question is how he could possibly be picked up out of his bassinet let alone be raised by birds! Right, the circus freaks also looked after them...but when did this happen? It isn't explained and would have made more sense. Circus freaks find abandoned baby and raise him as their own. We then have Catwoman who is brought back to life by cats...why? How? I remember thinking how weird that was to see when it is clear that the first film was not supernatural. Now it is? And what exactly was her motivation to frame Batman with the Penguin? And why develop the Catwoman persona if you are just going to get all emotional and want to kill Shreck with a gun during a ball as Selina Kyle? We then have to forgive all the absurdities like Penguins goons standing around Batman while they wait for him to throw a homing batarang! Or how the bat mobile can fall to pieces...how?...conveniently to get through a narrow alleyway. Or how Batman has a hang glider in his cape. Or how he suddenly has a bat jet ski thing that fits perfectly into the sewer. Penguins shooting rockets! Penguin sitting in a mini bat mobile toy car!!! Sorry, but the film is pretty lame.
Aug. 11, 2011, 4:45 p.m. CST
by HB_Dad
The Camo Tumblers are the military ones supplied by Wayne Enterprises. It is clear that Bane manages to steal some and he quickly realizes these are the same as Batman's, notices the Wayne connection, uses this info to put two and two together on the Bat's identity, and ultimately to break Batman's back like in the comic.
Aug. 11, 2011, 4:46 p.m. CST
=and sank like a stone.=
by KilliK
bollocks.the film was a hit.not as big as the first one,but a hit nevertheless.and it receded a lot of critical acclaim. hell,i remember that even here in Greece where the 'elitist' film critics shit on everything that HW producers and especially if it is about the fantasy/scifi,had praised the movie as one of Burtons's best work and a better film than the original one.
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST
Sweet Pictures!
by Warren
But I'm just curious, is it me, please let me know, but I don't recall any past NOLAN films having this much leaks?
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:04 p.m. CST
'That's exactly the kind of dialogue you'd find in a comic'
by THE_CHOPPAH
So first the dialogue is witty, and now it's the kind of dialogue you'd find in a comic book? You can't have it both ways, Lemure.
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:06 p.m. CST
=he can piss all over the source material which =
by KilliK
again bollocks. The first impression that you get from reading most of the batman comics,especially the ones before the 00s,is that all the characters involved ,both the hero and the villains,are psychopaths,either troubled souls suffering personal tragedies or simply and plain insane.And all that madness is represented in the comics with a cartoony but very twisted way: the Joker,a clown with a maniacal laughing,Two-Face,a man with a deformed which suffers from a split personality problem and so on. And this subtextual,twisted,insidious,craziness which takes part in a dark,gothic,world,this is what Burton has so perfectly captured and portrayed with his Batman Returns movie from the original source material. Batman,Penguin,Catwoman they are all creatures who suffer,broken souls who take their pain to others in order to find relief,revenge or even purpose,creatures which you dont like them because that is the director's intention: you cant like them because they are not your ordinary heroes or villains,they are freaks and GC is the circus. ie Do you think Batman is killing in cold blood in BR because Burton didnt 'get' the comic character with his morality code of honor and all that shit? Fuck no,Batman kills because he is a fucking PSYCHOPATH,a killer with major issues,even a sadistic killer someone might argue. That's what makes BR so great and that's why it is considered by a lot of fans the best Batman movie ever,even better than TDK,regardless if you think it does respect or not the original source material. and that comes from someone who doesnt like it.yep.
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:10 p.m. CST
=but I don't recall any past NOLAN films having this much leaks?=
by KilliK
it isnt Nolan's fault.After the huge success the WB has become greedy.and since it is unfortunate for them that Ledger doesnt live anymore,so that they could use him as the perfect advertisement and bait for the new sequel,their PR department has focused heavily on a complete exposition of the film's production. Just wait for upcoming pictures of the Bat-plane or Talia with Catwoman doing a scene together (and preferably flashing thei butts)
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:14 p.m. CST
Batman Returns is the best liked by fans, maybe by you!
by Warren
Don't get me wrong it had a certain fill to it, an aurora which Burton is great at. But don't for a second ever say that Burton was ever true to the source material, because he wasn't, and because of Burton we also got Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, yeah he helped put Joel in that directors chair! I mean he even killed off the joker in the first batman film, so how can you say that he respecting the source material of the comics. Not trying to start a war I'm just saying Nolan has done more for Batman than Burton ever did, and nothing you say is ever going to change that fact!
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:16 p.m. CST
Uh...& my bad!
by Warren
Need to read a little more before I start a debate, I'm a cock-smoker right now, please forget what I said about source material, but the BURTON hate still stands!
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:17 p.m. CST
Batman Returns is just silly.
by ComSamVimes
I love the movie...but it is pretty silly. It's just fun. The tone was right. Some of the details are wrong. I agree with both sides of this argument, I think.
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:22 p.m. CST
Batman Returns Vs TDK!
by Warren
Listen I grew up on those earlier films but to say they have more merit or are stronger pieces of work besides what Nolan has produced is just false. The best thing about BR was the WALKEN!
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:29 p.m. CST
Batman Returns
by IndianaPeach
saw it opening night...bought a program with the penguin on the front...was probably about 6 or 7 years old. Didn't think much of it then. Actually Batman Forever > Batman Returns. Burrrrrrrrrn
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:31 p.m. CST
=is just silly=
by KilliK
well the same can be said about BB/TDK. come on guys we are talking about movies based on strories created to entertain kids.ofc they are going to be silly.If you expect not to be silly,then go see a real,adult movie like Godfather or Kramer vs Kramer.
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:36 p.m. CST
by Warren
Are you serious, yes they entertain the little ones, but it has scope and yes a little bit more mature which makes it a great movie for adults as well. You could say the same about LOTR but no one would say its a movie for kids. I always stick by what Empire Magazine says for the most part, and TDK was ranked like number 11 or 15 of the greatest movies ever made, please this is an argument that cant be won..
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:38 p.m. CST
LOTR IS a movie for kids.you want a mature fantasy movie?
by KilliK
go watch EXCALIBUR.
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:40 p.m. CST
I give's up. LOL.
by Warren
Still I stand by my statement and the fact that EMPIRE MAGAZINE knows there shit when it comes to films, and all types of films.
Aug. 11, 2011, 5:58 p.m. CST
I low how this Lemure douche above
by Geektard_Smasher
says Batman Returns was just like the comics. yeah, from the fucking 40's. Gimmi a break. The Choppa said it best in his examples above. Above all it's faults (like I said, some kind of weird Cirque De Soliel Tranny fuck fest nightmare) there is NO EXCUSE FOR SHITTY, LAZY WRITING. Fucking Circus of Crime my ass. Poodle ladies. Clowns with tasers. Jugglers and Fire eaters (who need to be blasted to ashes by rocket jets). Lame just begins to describe it. And Keaton was always a horrible choice as this character, from any movie.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:01 p.m. CST
by Geektard_Smasher
You are one clueless fuck. Your defense of Batman Returns and your LOTR comment are full sail fail.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:02 p.m. CST
This web site needs an enema
by Geektard_Smasher
To paraphrase the best Joker ever (Nicholson).
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:12 p.m. CST
@geektard_smasher relax buddy and take some deep breaths.
by KilliK
or you will end up with a stroke or something.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:13 p.m. CST
Oh Killik, truly thou art the king of comedy
by Geektard_Smasher
Really, I'm just pointing out that your view are faggotry of the highest order. I'm not having a a spaz and would not squeeze a drop of sweat over you. But nice try and thanks for playing.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:15 p.m. CST
I hated BATMAN RETURNS
by Continentalop
That was a movie with absolutely no script or plot, which is the death of any action or adventure movie IMO. And I always hated how Burton said he changed the Penguin because he found the comic book character boring. Well guess what then? Don't use him and pick another villain!
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:16 p.m. CST
And Excalibur was great for it's time
by Geektard_Smasher
but it for sure has not withstood the test of time, has it? Your comment was the first I've heard it brought up in years, even on this site. LOTR are for adults (not like Star Wars films which I'm sure your a card carrying lover of) and people will still be bringing them up 30 years from now.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST
and how is me point out that your views are shit
by Geektard_Smasher
is somehow having a stroke? Fail buddy, fail. You shoud write for Tim Burton.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:18 p.m. CST
waltere.kurtz is a magical negro
by DVaderRIP
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:23 p.m. CST
continentalop - right on
by Geektard_Smasher
Yeah, the comics Penguin was a fat kid who loves birds who got picked on, and when bullies killed his birds he learned to be a fighter to get revenge on them. Later he used birds and brollies for crimes, and could take on a handful of thugs with his bare fists (I think the recent The Batman cartoon got this Penguin right). Tim Burton thinks that was boring? Giving him flippers and giant shit stains was an improvement? What a stupid ass prick he is. He ruined a great character and made him something from that Jack Skellington movie.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:24 p.m. CST
by RedGobbbo
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:28 p.m. CST
Anyone who defends Batman Returns ...
by Cruizer Dave
Is either high or meth, or an idiot. It was not well acted, it was over acted. It was not dark, it was campy stupidity with dark lighting and Tim Burton's directing style. It was not daring, it was dumb as shit. Penguins living in the sewer raise a child, right. Cats bring a dead woman back to life, uh huh. It was not a good Batman movie, because other than the names they used. It was a horrible movie.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:29 p.m. CST
by KilliK
god i love this site and its wacky inhabitants.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:32 p.m. CST
Actually geektard, I personally hate that version of the Penguin you just said
by Continentalop
That version of the Penguin you just mentioned probably would have worked great for Burton's Batman movie, but I am an old Penguin fan and love the one from the Golden Age where he is just a master criminal with no origin. He just shows up, takes over Gotham's underworld and frames Batman, then escapes from Bats only to keep crossing paths with him again and again while trying to pull off even more elaborate crimes. Fuck origins. I don't need to know Anton Chigurh's or Hans Gruber's origin, I didn't need to learn Hannibal Lecter's, and I don't need to learn the Penguin's.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:37 p.m. CST
Boba Fett
by Continentalop
Another character ruined by giving him an origin.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:39 p.m. CST
by Geektard_Smasher
I didn't watch much of The Batman because it had Bruce Wayne in high school or some shit. But I noticed the Penguin could fight, and I think that was comics canon as of the 70's. In that cartoon he also had these two kabuki kung fu girls which was weird, and not sure that is from comics. I hated the weird barefoot wildman Joker in that too. I think the 90's animated Batman got the Penguin about as right as you can. But that go everything right, didn't it. Great fucking cartoon that cared about the character rather than trying to reinvent it. And yeah that Batman Begins seemed made for kiddies, but Batman torching jugglers with jet engines, strappinjg bombs to dudes and throwing them down holes in the ground to explode, just stupid.
Aug. 11, 2011, 6:48 p.m. CST
Another shitty Tim Burton legacy
by Geektard_Smasher
Is that Penguin has to have flippers in each and every incarnation now. Even the 90's animated went with the flippers.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7 p.m. CST
Ventriliquist and Scarface
by Geektard_Smasher
would make a great Nolanverse villain. Believable, and they could tap into all the great Mafia zietgiest out there. They could reference Godfather, Goodfellas, Sopranos. This would be the real life insanity way to go, not a guy with face scars who can seeminly do anything without fear of failing, and a pumped up prison bred luchador who takes over football stadiums with a few machine guns.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:02 p.m. CST
Don't remind me about the flippers geektard
by Continentalop
I read that Paul Timm originally had a much different Penguin in mind, both visually and in how he operated. Timm and co. originally planned to have the Penguin be basically Gotham's Kingpin of crime and have him run the underworld, and they designed him to look like the Golden Age Penguin. But DC and WB stepped in and forced him to make him resemble DeVito's Penguin, so he became a freak and the position of Gotham's number one gangster went to Rupert Thorne. In later seasons Timm was able to make Penguin more of a gentleman gangster, basing him at the Iceberg Lounge, and even changing his appearance so he looked more like how they originally planned. Here is the original concept, what they went with and the final look in the later seasons: http://www.pop-cult.net/Wikitainment/images/3/36/DCAU-The_Penguin-00.gif
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:06 p.m. CST
RE: the location pics above
by Geektard_Smasher
these always make me wish I went into being on a movie production crew. You spend half the day standing around in shorts trying not to get caught staring at the script girls tits and ass, and sucking down coffee and scarfing down Craft services grub.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:09 p.m. CST
geektard, production sucks
by Continentalop
At least IMO. It's hurry-up-and-wait, incredibly long days (12 usually, but don't be surprised if you are working 14-16 hours), no job security (every movie is over after 6-12 weeks then it is looking for work again) and if you're non-union or working on a low budget movie, the pay sucks. Of course, Post isn't much better...
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:10 p.m. CST
Jeez Continentalop
by Geektard_Smasher
Just looking at the cartoon Devito penguin, even dressed up, makes me feel like I can almost smell the 3 foot bacon stripe going up his long johns beneath the suit. Tim Burton is one sick fuck.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:12 p.m. CST
Scarface is a great villain
by Continentalop
Fits right in with all the "classic" Batman foes so well you'd think he came out in 1941 or something. Another villain I like is Clay-Face I. Probably not good enough to make a feature around, but always wish they would make at least one Batman cartoon where he faced off against a homicidal actor dressed as a horror icon instead of a shapeshifting pile of muck.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:29 p.m. CST
Wayne corp's probably been funding the league of shadows
by SantosLHalper
with the tumblers and weaponary unknowingly. is that why the dudes from road warrior are driving them?
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:31 p.m. CST
geektard (and any others who aspire to work in the movie biz): listen to continentalop. working production/crew sucks.
by Jim Jam Bongs
It's only "cool" if you are the all-mighty powerful director, or the DP. Everybody else, besides the lead actors, is essentially a day laborer on set. Also, nobody here should not have naive expectations that working on a set will pave the way to becoming a director, producer or screenwriter. That's not how the system works. (In fact, most of the successful, working scriptwriters I know have never set foot on a set, nor do many of them care to.) It's analogous to thinking that because you've been hired to paint a house, or install cabinets in the kitchen, it will lead to you being rewarded with the opportunity to become an architect.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:33 p.m. CST
Speaking of cartoon Penguin
by Geektard_Smasher
Didn't Paul Williams do his voice? Big improvement over Devitos' movie squaks.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:47 p.m. CST
In a Nolanized universe, the penguin is...
by Orbots Commander
...a British gangster and major black market arms dealer (with the moniker of Oswald Cobblepot). He happens to be of short stature, though not comically so, and is called 'Penguin' the same way Al Capone was called 'Scarface'. Too bad we'll never see that. I was never a big fan of Tim Burton's take on Penguin; he was a dark fantasy character who didn't even really gel within Burton's hyper-real universe. I never 'got' why he was able to communicate with penguins in the sewer, never mind his bizarre crime crew of circus freaks.
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:50 p.m. CST
OMFG -- we now know what the 3rd camouflage Tumbler does...! (link to SPOILER photo!)...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
IT FUCKING FLIES!! http://collider.com/new-vehicle-dark-knight-rises/108895/comment-page-1/
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:58 p.m. CST
Professor Pop-Cult- I have an alternate theory
by Particularly Hard Vato
What if it just flaps its wings at the enemy, in an animal like attempt to scare people by making them think it is bigger then people think it is? Like a Turkey or something... :)
Aug. 11, 2011, 7:59 p.m. CST
Cruizer Dave- I actually defended Batman Returns the other day...
by Particularly Hard Vato
I was high on meth at the time.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:01 p.m. CST
To sum up: what the 4 Wayne Industries Tumblers concept vehicles do...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
Prototype #1 -- The one that Bruce Wayne took, painted black, and used as his Batmobile. Its secondary feature is that it ejects a "Bikepod" (AKA Batpod). Prototype #2 -- Has fold-out anti-missile/aircraft guns. This feature has been seen in spy photos of the set. Prototype #3 -- The hidden feature of this one could be a fold-open tank cannon, based on the look of its design, although no spy photos of its secondary feature has been determined. Prototype #4 -- We know that the outside of this one looks virtually identical to Prototype #1. However, newly leaked spy photos suggest this one converts into a small aircraft.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:09 p.m. CST
Tumbler becomes Bat jet
by Geektard_Smasher
League of Shadows takes over the Gotham Harvey Dent Memorial Parade, Batman comes flying in with machine guns blazing to take out the 4 or 5 machine gun dudes holding the city hostage. Bane shoots it down with a 4 foot long .38 pistol. Nolan, you sly dog!
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST
I just can't see Anne as Catwoman
by abnormal
I like Anne, she's cute and all. But I just cant see her as Cat woman. Shes a tad on the plain and simple side. Not sexy enough. I was all for Marion Cotillard. At least she's in the movie. I think Nolan goofed casting her just like Katie Holmes and Maggie. No more plain and pasty girls.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:11 p.m. CST
Dang -- I hoped that Camou-Tumbler #3 would have turned into a robot. ;)
by Jim Jam Bongs
The idea of these three new Tumblers having different hidden special functions is neat, but I wonder if Warner Bros. execs ordered Nolan to put in several new vehicles so Mattel could sell more toys for the movie.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:15 p.m. CST
And that is a huge spoiler about the Tumbler.
by Jim Jam Bongs
It means that TDKR is going to feature the Nolan version of the Batwing. Thus, I bet this is the one camou-Tumbler that Bruce will take back from Bane, and repaint black to use in a final fight against the League of Shadows.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:23 p.m. CST
all these tdkr leaks is like rotj all over again
by SantosLHalper
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:30 p.m. CST
Yeah, jimjam, it would make thematic sense for the climax to have Batman... (SPOILER)...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
...Flying a/the Batwing. Because the opening scene of the movie could feature Batman landing a cargo plane to a soft landing through the streets of downtown Gotham. (Producer Charles Roven hinted a while back that there would be a scene where Batman is in the cockpit of a plane that he has to stop from crashing.) So for Batman to fly a Batwing in the finale would tie things together in a thematic sense.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:34 p.m. CST
Liked Batman Returns
by annie_michael_hall
No it is not the "purest" Batman film. And it is a COMPLETE tonal and visual departure from "Batman." But it is entirely consistent tonally - and within Tim Burton's themes historically. You may think that tone and those themes are crap. Fair enough. But I personally find the film to be pretty intriguing, and a lot of fun with all of the things Tim Burton loves: German Expressionism, Hammer Films, the circus - and a fun exploration of all of the weirdness that comes with that particular mix of ideas. And I love Michelle Pfeiffer as that film's version of Catwoman. The universe of that film arguably existed to support that character. And for me it worked.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:37 p.m. CST
Sure it's the Batwing?
by alexander
Looks a little small and light, where does Bats sit?... is all I'm sayin'...
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:48 p.m. CST
It looks large enough for one person at least...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
It is attached to the top of a low-level truck. It bears a strong resemblance to the top of the Tumbler (specifically, the cockpit section of the vehicle) with its sides fanned up and out as wings. This Tumbler probably ejects its tires when converting to a flight vehicle.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:51 p.m. CST
I agree with the love for Batman Returns
by Mugato5150
Burton's Gotham had a little more style than just "Chicago". Keaton's Bruce Wayne was suitably unhinged as was Catwoman. And it had Walken.
Aug. 11, 2011, 8:55 p.m. CST
The only good Batman movie before Begins was
by master_of_realty
Mask of the Phantasm
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:06 p.m. CST
batman returns works until the 3rd act....
by sonnyhooper
.....then it turns into a fucking train-werck. a big rubber duck boat? a sewer surfing bat-jet-ski? penguins with rocket launchers? <> i repeat... <P> fucking. <p> penguins. <p> with <p> rocket <p> launchers. <p> yep. tim burton is nutty as squirell shit.
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:13 p.m. CST
by sonnyhooper
...every other entertainment web site out there now has spy footage of joseph gordon levett walking down this street with a can of gasoline.
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:17 p.m. CST
On what planet can Batman Returns be considered 'dark?'
by Anthrax
It's basically a two hour long episode of the Adam West show. And that's the era of the comic book it reflects. Straight Silver Age era nonsense, the kind that was killing Batman before O'neil and Adams came and saved it. There's nothing witty going on in Batman Returns, or even remotely coherent for that matter. It's an ugly and visually uninteresting movie. The tone of what little story there is is completely uneven, with the aforementioned moments of camp, juxtaposed with moments where everybody is trying so hard to be 'dark' and 'edgy' that it pretty much veers right back into being camp again. Even as a kid, I gave up about half way through this one. It ain't Batman, and beyond that, it isn't even a remotely good film, on any level.
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST
if that is the batwing then, by profs assessment
by alexander
i'll... knob myself with astonishment, or something. Then again, this one does have a 'mad scientist' along with Lucius Fox i guess... still, i'll knob myself with astonishment, or something.
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:28 p.m. CST
You can't complain about Bane's big ass winter coat AND
by CherryValance
complain about the snow. If the coat didn't make sense in the middle of summer now it does. So if Bats shows up in sparkly leg warmers, I don't wanna hear shit. XD I'm so late to this party.
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST
that's true
by IndianaPeach
3rd act ruins it. that was a pretty good catwoman after all.
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:34 p.m. CST
by ass clown
Santa Claus, 'fraid not, I'm just a poor schmuck who got lucky. And sue me, if I wanna give something back.'
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:39 p.m. CST
we're gonna see the whole movie online b4 it comes out!
by Mennen
Aug. 11, 2011, 9:43 p.m. CST
I like Returns enough i guess when i was a kid
by alexander
and always loved the look/design along with Burtons first film, but ever since properly getting into the Batman comics from a young age - Knightfall Pt1 & 2 was the first graphic novel I ever owned! - only Mask of The Phantasm gets repeated viewings really along with Nolans movies. It seems a bit strange to me to rip into Returns so harshly though, it still laid alot of groundwork in many ways to putting alot of trust in a director and their vision/instincts to deliver the goods in a superhero franchise (that led to Singer-Nolan) for all its subversions of the characters and lack of in depth/true grasp of character, which are still far more interesting and wipes the floor with the Adam West series for example - as much as I dug that as a kid - and cmon! Its looks pretty darn beautiful. No it's not the Animated Series at it's best but...
Aug. 11, 2011, 10:16 p.m. CST
Where's Gotham City?
by catlettuce4
Looks like a normal everyday boring city to me. Gotham City has, you know, character.
Aug. 11, 2011, 11:58 p.m. CST
I trash your Fucking Snow!
by Mundungus
Aug. 12, 2011, 12:03 a.m. CST
This film, the suckage of Batman Returns & the Batman Forever Director's Cut
by lynxpro
First off, I despised "Batman Returns" and I too saw it opening night. Without Guber-Peters [amazing to think of Jon Peters as the voice of sanity] and Warner Bros. holding Burton's reigns, it just went totally weird. The Penguin was the worst. And since that film was a train wreck, we later got Joel Schumacher to replace Burton for even more hijinks. Now, had the original version of "Batman Forever" been rolled out to the silver screens, it would've been leaps and bounds better than what we instead got. I saw a test version here in Sac [actually Citrus Heights] in the "old" UA theatre and Schumacher was sitting in the back. Sure, the take on Two-Face still sucked but at least the test/director's cut actually explored more of Batman's pathos. Unfortunately, that was left on the cutting room floor. It was also a big let down that - in both versions - that gawdawful theme music was kept instead of replacing it with Elfman's original work from the first two films. I also think the choices of "pop" music also sucked and would've much preferred The Cure to have been used instead. But back to the current film. I'm remaining pretty spoiler free even though Talia Al Ghul is obvious and the fact that Monica Bellucci or Emanuelle Chiqri should've been cast in the role instead, but I digress. I'm detecting Nolan/Goyer riffing off "Escape from New York" with the big fight between Batman and Bane. Totally reminds me of the fight in the boxing ring Snake was forced to battle it out in. That's fine by me if Nolan wants to do that because I'm a big fan of "Escape from New York", not to mention I approved of him riffing off "Blade Runner" in parts for "Batman Begins" and "Heat" [some might try to correct that and instead offer "Zodiac" as a better example] for "The Dark Knight"...
Aug. 12, 2011, 1:01 a.m. CST
Hathaway is "Plain", "simple", "not sexy enough"?
by conspiracy
On what fucking planet do you masturbate? I mean honestly...we can sit here and debate the relative merits of her acting ability...but on her looks how can anyone call THIS piece of ass "Plain" or "Not sexy"? What the fucking Hell do you consider fucking sexy...I'm serious...show me what you think is fucking sexy? http://tinyurl.com/3gat4ql ^ See that? THAT is fucking sexy. Long, firm, huge natural tits, a mouth designed by God Almighty himself to be the greatest potential cock sucking tool ever put on this planet (really..look at it...she could harbor a whole Apple in that moist succulent maw), and a face that I dare say puts most chicks in flicks to shame. No say I...she may not be a great actress, you may not like her as "Catwoman", but on her sex appeal there can be no fucking dissent. She is the stuff that makes the prison sentence seem worth it.
Aug. 12, 2011, 1:15 a.m. CST
Sorry conspiracy, but Hathaway isn't sexy
by Continentalop
She's fucking SEXY. http://tinyurl.com/4xwpzs2
Aug. 12, 2011, 3:59 a.m. CST
fuck this movie
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Im already sick of it
Aug. 12, 2011, 4:14 a.m. CST
Batman Returns was worth doing just for Michelle Pfeiffer
by chien_sale
the rest doesn't matter
Aug. 12, 2011, 4:57 a.m. CST
Sleepy Hollow > Batman Returns
by WINONA_RYDERS_PUSSY_JUICE
Aug. 12, 2011, 5:51 a.m. CST
by Astronut
Heh. Haha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh that was a good one.
Aug. 12, 2011, 9 a.m. CST
bob_orcis_spellchecker, about Cap
by MrFusion
I may be forgetting some scenes, but aside from the end with Fury and the chase scene through the streets right after he becomes Cap, not much of this was shot in very populated areas. Lots of sets and warehouses and backwoodsy sort of places. And that chase sequence was probably not even on a real city street. TDKR is spending a lot of time filming in very hard to control public arenas. Sucks because so many photos leak, but it will come across on the screen quite well. Not really sure why this didn't happen during TDK though, maybe Chicago police are just way better at handling security than Pitt police?
Aug. 12, 2011, 10:35 a.m. CST
2001 looks lie a piece of shit to me
by mcgoocain
Ahh- the internet. If the internet existed in the 1960s, and unofficial set photos were leaked from the film "2001: A Space Odyssey"- the assholes of the day would be crying - 'looks like a piece of shit" and the fanboys would stay home and not see on of the greatest films ever made. This whole trend of overhyping movies with pre-release marketing, official and unofficial is fucking bullshit. Do you kiddies know that TV commercials for upcoming films were not a common thing- were extrmely rare to non-existent? Up until TV commercials for films became commonplace, before the advent of VHS and then DVD robbed films of some of their mystique and made them just one more disposable commodity - a TV commercial for a film would happen only AFTER a film became a hit at the BO - and the TV ad existed to help get more asses in seats for an already succesful film- and these commercials were extremely rare! Oh wow, some snow in a street- it makes the movie suck to me - it makes the movie look fantastic to me - this is all just such pure bullshit - such a monumental waste of time and thought - for goddamned what? I love film - lifelong fan. but it has all gottren to be too much shit along with all that is great- but the shit seems to be winning the hearts and minds of today's film geeks. Fuck- what's a poor boy to do?
Aug. 12, 2011, 11:01 a.m. CST
2001 looks LIKE a piece of shit to me
by mcgoocain
same as above.
Aug. 12, 2011, 11:27 a.m. CST
Killik THANK YOU...
by Billy_D_Williams
the essence of the Batman characters is of psychological damage and insanity...that is the SPIRIT of the characters and Burton captured that spirit with his own twisted style. often filmmakers adapting source material veer greatly from the original material, I dont see anybody bitching about that! its only their precious Batman...fanboys are so transparent.
Aug. 12, 2011, 12:10 p.m. CST
by tye dye mann
There seems to be a lot of speculation about how Bane got his hands on a fleet of the things. All they said about Cotilliard's character in the beginning was that she was an executive at Wayne Enterprises. Now that it's all but confirmed that she is Al Gul, it makes since that as an executive she oversaw a deal with a Blackwater-ish security company, which is a front for the League of Shadows. It's just a theory, so don't blast me for posting spoilers.
Aug. 12, 2011, 12:29 p.m. CST
that's right baby let that mouth gape open.
by UltraTron
Can we get some more pics o that intern?
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michael.doucet said...
I have a very poorly geared Resto shaman. However, I have some good enh gear. So it queues me to heal HHoR. This new system punishes me for leaving, or punishes the poor bastards stuck with me who should be kicking me. BAD CHANGE BLIZZARD!
michael.doucet said...
Does no one see that something is broken here?
We shouldn't have to dps until our healing or tanking gear is up to par for the instance we are being placed into.
We shouldn't have to lose the random bonuses (by queueing directly) because the SYSTEM is putting us into an instance we aren't geared for.
So you expect the system to not only figure out your average iLevel* but see what specs you have and whether you have gear to support that spec? But even that isn't enough, to be truly comprehensive it would have to make sure you also have a non-retarded spec, maybe glyphs and enchants as well.
Do you not see the massive jump in difficulty between what we have now and what you want?
* The LFD tool doesn't decide whether you can do the dungeon, it is purely iLevel based. I out DPS people with 1k GS on me.
Bionic Radd said...
Don't queue for healing in a DPS set. Blizzard's system isn't that advanced. If you all 251 DPS gear and queue for healing, it is going to put you in as a healer. If you want to heal, put on your healing set before you queue. It's no worse than someone queuing as a tank in DPS gear. Yes, Blizzard could make their tool fancier, but I would rather they didn't. The simpler it is, the better and faster it works. In short, put on the gear for the role you wish to fill.
michael.doucet said...
@Bionic Radd - I'm in resto spec, in resto gear. You have no idea how the system works, so don't talk.
It does weight off-set gear, but the hundred or so pieces of level 60 & 70 nostalgia armor in my bank still doesn't prevent me from getting into the dungeons... So, the ilevel calculation has at least some complexity built in. I still suggest not trying to go for random dungeons so often if there are dungeons you wouldn't want to do as a random (ie. get your frost badges for the day, and then do specific dungeons for the rest of the night).
The problem is if you have both your higher lvl dps gear and your low level healing gear equiped or in your bags. Until you have better healing gear, I suggest you put your dps set in the bank when you que for a random as a healer. That way it doesnt see those item level things on you. Good luck!
It checks what gear you have in your bags, too, so if you really want to get into a higher-geared group then put all your i251 into the bank and wear your saronite pvp set while searching. Then if you have Jeeves or something similar you can retrieve your gear once inside.
"So you expect the system to not only figure out your average iLevel* but see what specs you have and whether you have gear to support that spec?"
Honestly, that doesn't exactly sound impossible. Blizzard knows what stats are useful to each spec. If you queue for a tank, for example, it could just figure out what pieces would make up your best "tank set" and score that. Just think of all the nifty stuff mod designers have done in their free time. I'm sure the people who actually make the game could whip up an internal system to determine the "spec" of pieces of gear fairly quickly.
I can kind of see where doucet here is coming from, even if he started getting a little agressive about it. Advice like, "Don't queue as a healer," isn't particularly useful. He knows he can DPS his way to a full healing set, but it sounds like he's looking to actually do some healing as he gears up, which I can understand. Unfortunately, he finds it neccesary to drop group sometimes after getting queued for something his resto gear isn't ready for. I could see that being a pain, and I wouldn't be surprised if Blizzard does add in some better gear checking for Cataclysm.*
*Of course, I won't be surprised if they don't, either. :D
Except then you are getting into the realm of Blizzard deciding what is The Right gear and The Right spec. Which isn't what they want to do. Not to mention doing so would take several orders magnitude more computation than the current iLevel average system.
Right now they can just set an average iLevel to allow you to LFD an instance and then never worry about it again. If they changed it to what I am talking about they would have to constantly fiddle with it as they made changes to classes (eg right now some healers need spirit, others need Mp5, it wont be that way in cata). The point is that it would introduce more room for complications than it would solve.
The LFD does quick and dirty matching to save on computing power and queue time. All it says is "these guys have high enough gear that on average they should be successful".
As you've probably guessed many people either didn't read your post properly or aren't paying attention to what the LFD actually does when you choose a random dungeon.
People, the Dungeon Finder CAN select the healer choice by default and WILL give you NO OTHER OPTION by calculating your toon's stats when you randomly queue. As many people have noted, the only way out of it is to choose a specific dungeon and choose a specific role. I don't play a healer, but many of my guildies who play druids, shamans, etc. have talked about dealing with this while currently leveling alts, and it was often a topic of Trade drama, and the official forums just after the LFD debuted.
As a fresh 80 tank I got queued for hFOS, then after I did that, hPOS. I did HPOS 5 times already and I only have 4 pieces of triumph gear, all through randoms. I started getting hFOS before I had single tier piece, if I recall (I had the 245 bracers, 226 boots, and 219 neck, and a smattering of 200/187 stuff).
I hate that place. I hate that blizz throws you into something you are way undergeared for. My tank set had avg ilvl 200, and my dps was probably ilvl 150. Not only that, but most of the group was ilvl 200 or so, even the healer. So, yeah, idk what the heck is going on. But a ilvl200 group is in no way shape or form ready for hFOS.
I also hate that if you leave you are a 'deserter' even though the game stuck you in something 2 tiers above your head. Now, granted, we got through most of those runs, and it was fun and challenging, but come on blizz, fix it! Just calculate the avg ilvl of your gear and stick you in something appropriate. Its not perfect but its much better than whatever system they have now.
In defense of the downvoted guy, he's complaining about getting picked to heal one dungeon specifically - Halls of Reflection on Heroic, the hardest 5-man in the game at the moment. Sure, you might be able to fly through them with your mains in raiding gear, but they are far harder than heroic UK or OK or HoL. This guy's resto gear might be good enough or even great for all the pre-3.2 Wrath heroics while still not being good enough for the four newest 5-mans, particularly the last and hardest of them.
What this guy should do if he wants to use the LFD system is apologize and drop group if the system puts him in HHoR. Or maybe take one shot just to give the group a chance but drop group and apologize if they wipe. He has to wait 15 minutes to re-queue for a random, and they only have to wait for a better-geared healer to come along, and he still gets the stat bonus and ending award for using the LFD system when he does any other dungeon.
HOWEVER, it's unfortunate at the very least, and arguably bad design on Blizzard's part, to put one really hard dungeon in randomly with all the rest. They could have done lots of things to prevent it. (Allow people to exclude dungeons from the random selection? Not putting people in the post-3.3 dungeons if they don't have pieces of T9 for their chosen role? Have a separate random selection that excludes the post-3.3 dungeons? Don't put HHoR in the random dungeon finder at all? Who knows. All options have problems, but there are options.) But as far as we can tell they have done nothing to address this issue, and the announced change to the vote-kick system would make it worse. That's not to say it's not worth doing overall, but still.
All this is assuming that his healing gear is good enough for all other heroics except for HoR (let's say no greens, average ilvl 187+ at the very least). If it's not, then yeah, he is the problem and shouldn't be queueing to heal.
Hoggersbud said...
>People, the Dungeon Finder CAN select the healer choice by default and WILL give you NO OTHER OPTION by calculating your toon's stats when you randomly queue.
Except...you can turn off the Healer Role when queuing up for a group. Why is he so resistant to that?
Probably because Healers have faster queues than DPS.
It's that simple.
Yeah, I don't understand what is so hard about not checking the healer box. If all you check is dps, all you will get is dps.
Is it inconvenient for michael.doucet? A little. Is it inconvenient for the other 4 people to have to sit around and wait for another healer because he's decided to drop group, and there are no healers to be had for 10 minutes? Often very much so, at least in my BG.
What he is really saying is that his desire to play the way he wants trumps the fun of the other people he will be randomly queuing with. I don't have a lot of sympathy for his position. If you don't want to heal, don't queue as a healer.


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Laptop, meet the cookbook. We saw the Kitchen Sync design concept several weeks ago, and we were surprised and happy to meet its designer, Noah Balmer, at the Housewares Show. Balmer received an International Housewares Association design award for the Kitchen Sync, which we hope goes into production soon.
The concept for the Kitchen Sync is quite simple, and brilliant. It's a new generation of cookbook for your kitchen - the perfect melding of the recipes you can find online and the old-fashioned cookbooks that sit on your kitchen shelves. Read on to see how it works - lots more photos below...
As much as we love our tattered and spattered well-used cookbooks, we are turning more and more to the web for good recipes. We like the communal nature of the web and the ability to pick and choose recipes and mash them together as we go.
But how to bring them into the kitchen? We don't like printing everything out, so our laptop has sticky keys and a flour-spattered screen - and now our lovely iPhone is also developing telltale signs of kitchen use.
Balmer's concept invents a whole new kitchen appliance - a small, flexible, washable screen with a dock. You can download recipes directly and follow links to buy necessary products and see tips online. The Kitchen Sync brings new web recipes together with the old-fashioned coobook, with no need for laborious printing or sticky laptop screens and keyboards.
It's wireless and very kitchen-friendly - our pick for the cookbook of the future! We'd like to confine our precious recipe books to the dining room table and let the real wear and tear take its toll on a flexible little tool like this.
This is still a concept, but as it won a prestigious design award already and Balmer is interning for Karim Rashid this spring, we hope that some affordable version of this goes into production soon. Good luck Noah!
• Noah Balmer's official website - Check this out for some more great kitchen design and products, as well as all the details on the features of the Kitchen Sync which we were just able to sum up here.
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Oh my god, this is just what I need. (Why didn't I think of this first!!!)
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This is a great idea, finally my husband will stop stealing my laptop to act as his cookbook!
When can I get one?! That picture of the laptop with the measuring cup on top is a common sight in my house.
that is seriously genius. i want one.
WOW I SO need one of these!! Though since I don't have a laptop I'm one of those cooks who have to run back and forth between the kitchen and my desktop computer! (only 10 feet away but still a nuisance).
Hmmm I just showed this to the BF and he said, he would rig a 15inch monitor in the kitchen and set my computer for dual monitor set up. Not a bad idea! That may hold me over until this product comes out! haha
That's brilliant. I'm not normally a gadget kind of person, but I'm always so paranoid about bringing my macbook into the kitchen, and I hate wasting paper to print out recipes.
Sign me up too! I hope that goes into production soon, and with a good price! I'd sure love to be a beta tester for that! Ingenious!
I dream of a tool like this: small enough and waterproof. I hope it does not take too long to evolve from a concept to the store shelf.
RAD. I want one. Is there a waiting list?
Sure, it looks cool. But for some reason I prefer old fashioned printed cookbooks.
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I came across this article and loved the idea! Then I realized how old this article actually is. Has this product actually come out yet?
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I came across this article and loved the idea! Then I realized how old this article actually is. Has this product actually come out yet?
J Beatty
Maybe I'm just missing it, but is there a newer segment for this article? I'd love to see some current kitchen gadgets that are in the works.
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Two days ago we had a problem, 26 plants were destroyed, and what's worse is that they were all boarded up, it means that the vandals had to work harder to reach them. But that's not all, they even brought additional tools to destroy them. My question is how to prevent this kind of vandalism?
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Apr 6 2013: Rajko, why would vandals destroy trees? Did these trees belong to somebody, or were they on government land? Were they old trees, with deep roots, or young trees that had just been planted? Again, what do you think was the vandals' motive? Were the trees in somebody's way? Were they part of a scientific experiment? To give suggestions, it seems we have to know the situation.
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