text: Kicker 10CVR124 CompVR 12" subwoofer with dual 4-ohm voice coils Zoom Front Right Photos Videos My vehicle's homepage We don't check this item for fit or compatibility. Item #: 2061CVR124 Review Summary 13 people say In Stock Free Crutchfield lifetime tech support Free Shipping Your price $119.99 Add to cart + Add to wishlist Email me alerts for this product Buy this item and earn up to 120 Rewards points See more offers and ways to save Special Financing Available x By buying this product you'll earn up to 120 Rewards points. When you sign up for a Crutchfield account, you'll be enrolled in Crutchfield Rewards. You'll earn one point for every dollar you spend on gear from us. You can turn your points into Rewards Cards that you can use toward future purchases. You can sign up for an account now, or after you complete your purchase (you'll get credit for the points either way). Sign up for a Crutchfield account Overview Details Customer Reviews Q&A Articles & Videos Accessories Our take on the Kicker 10CVR124 by Dominic Devito What's a component sub and why would I want one? A component sub is simply a speaker that's designed to reproduce bass once it's installed in a compatible enclosure. Think about the impact of a movie soundtrack in a big theater or even in your own home HDTV setup. A component sub can add the same kind of power to the music in your car. And a car sub is not all about the boom that you hear on a street corner (although that's cool too) - you can pair a component sub with your choice of enclosure to get bass just the way you like it, from tight and punchy to fat and loose. And once you experience music in your car with a well-tuned subwoofer, you'll never go back. Kicker CompVR subs let you kick out the jams without tearing a hole in your wallet. These subs handle plenty of power, and get their fierce sound from tough, injection-molded polypropylene cones with reliable Santoprene™ surrounds. The unique SoloKon™ cone with its 360-degree back bracing keeps going strong when the bass gets heavy, while perimeter venting in the strong steel basket keeps the voice coils cool for dependable performance. The 10CVR124 12" sub sports dual 4-ohm voice coils that give you more wiring options when setting up your system. The sub's cool-looking black finish highlights the potent low end you'll hear and feel. Boat owners: Kicker certifies the CompVR subs for marine use, so you can generate some serious bass waves out on the water. Note: If you are wiring this DVC sub for lower impedance, make sure that your amp is compatible. Most car amplifiers are stable down to 2 ohms in standard mode, or 4 ohms in bridged operation. To drive this single subwoofer, we recommend a mono amplifier rated between 300 and 600 watts RMS at 2 ohms. For more information, please refer to our article on How to Match Subwoofers and Amplifiers. See more info on this item Highlights:12" subwoofer with dual 4-ohm voice coilsinjection-molded polypropylene coneribbed Santoprene rubber surroundsuitable for marine usepower handling: 50-400 watts RMS (200 watts per coil)800 watts peak power handlingfrequency response: 25-500 Hzsensitivity: 86.9 dBtop-mount depth: 6-1/4"sealed box volume: 1.0-4.6 cu. ft.ported box volume: 1.75-2.25 cu. ft.warranty: 1 yearOur 60-day money-back guarantee Priced per speaker Hands-on research from the Crutchfield Labs (what are the Labs?) Features and specs chart | What's in the box? | In-depth notes Features and Specs Size 12 -inch Impedance 4 ohms Cone Material Injection molded poly Surround Material Santoprene rubber Ideal Sealed Box Volume (cubic feet) N/A Ideal Ported Box Volume (cubic feet) N/A Port diameter (inches) N/A Port length (inches) N/A Free-Air No Dual Voice Coil Yes Sensitivity 86.9 dB at 1 watt Frequency Response 25 - 500 Hz RMS Power Range (Watts) 50-400 Peak Power Handling (Watts) 800 Top Mount Depth (inches) 6 1/4 Bottom Mount Depth (inches) N/A Cutout Diameter or Length (inches) 10 7/8 Vas (liters) 65.294 Fs (Hz) 32.6 Qts 0.648 Xmax (millimeters) 12.73 Parts Warranty 1 Year Labor Warranty 1 Year Product Research What's in the box? Download owner's manual One 12" dual voice coil subwoofer Owner's Manual 2 Large Kicker decals 2 Small Kicker decals Our Product Research Team At Crutchfield, you'll get detailed, accurate information that's hard to find elsewhere. That's because we have our own in-house Product Research team — they open the box, verify contents, check the owner's manual, and record dimensions, features and specs. We stay on top of new products and technologies to help people make informed choices. Features Enclosure Compatibility Features Dual Voice Coils: For increased system flexibility, the woofer has two 4 ohm voice coils. When the voice coils are wired in parallel, the woofer presents a 2 ohm load. When the voice coils are wired in series, the woofer presents an 8 ohm load. In addition, each coil may be connected to a different amplifier channel and each channel will see a 4 ohm load. Cone Design: The Comp VR's super-rigid injection-molded polypropylene cone features 360-degree back bracing to completely eliminate flex and distortion. Surround: The optimized ribbed Santoprene surround allows extended cone excursion for additional bass output and higher SPL. The surround is double-stitched to the cone to add a mechanical fastener to the chemical adhesives. This prevents the cone and surround from separating in the harshest conditions. Spiralead Tinsel Leads: The Comp VR features durable Spiralead tinsel leads, which are woven into the woofer's progressive-roll polycotton spider, for added strength and reliability. Basket and Motor Assembly: The strong steel basket features perimeter venting to help cool the high-temperature voice coil wires and prevent breakdown. The overall motor structure design is based on technology found in Kicker's flagship Solo-Baric line of subwoofers, and allows the sub to handle more power and take more abuse. The high-mass solid pole piece removes potentially damaging heat. Speaker Terminals: The spring loaded, nickel-plated terminals provide solid connections for speaker wire up to 8 gauge. Single banana plugs and pin connectors will also fit. Break-in Period: Due to the complex nature of Kicker Comp VR speakers, they require a break-in period in order to produce optimum low-bass response. The high-performance suspension system makes the speaker very stiff out-of-the-box. Approximately 2 weeks of daily playing will allow the suspension to break-in and reach its optimum equilibrium. A broken-in subwoofer will exhibit stronger bass performance, smoother response, and greater low-bass extension. Rubber Magnet Boot: A black rubber boot covers the outside edge of the magnet structure to improve the cosmetics of the woofer and protect the magnet during installation. Enclosure Compatibility Power Handling: The power handling specifications differ according to the type and size of the enclosure. The power handling specifications assume that both voice coils are in use. Note: Both voice coils in a dual voice coil speaker should always be connected. Recommended Sealed Box Volume: Compact (minimum enclosure volume): 1.0 cu/ft; the woofer can handle up to 400 watts RMS (200 watts per voice coil) SQ (maximum enclosure volume): 4.6 cu/ft; the woofer can handle up to 300 watts RMS (150 watts per voice coil) Recommended Vented Box Volume: Compact: 1.75 cu/ft; 2.5" x 12.5" port opening; 20" port depth; the woofer can handle up to 300 watts RMS (150 watts per voice coil) SQ: 2.25 cu/ft; 3" x 12.5" port opening; 20.5" port depth; the woofer can handle up to 300 watts RMS (150 watts per voice coil) Review this product Submit a review and then enter to win a $500 rewards card Kicker 10CVR124 Reviews Average Customer Review: 13 people say: Review this product: Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences about this product. Please be sure to focus your comments on the product itself. Read our Review Guidelines for more information. Review title * Email Your email won't be visible. Please use the email address that is associated with your order. Display name (e.g., JohnD) Your review will be signed using the display name and location * Your location (e.g., Charlottesville, VA) * Your rating Click on a star to rate the overall product on a scale of 1-5 Rate the following specific attributes Value Sound Quality Ease of Use "Coolness Factor" Build Quality 1500 characters left * Your review Attach a YouTube Review Crutchfield Video Review Guidelines Only submit videos that you made or are authorized to use. Do not submit videos that contain music, video or visuals that are copyrighted and belong to someone else. Please see our Review Guidelines for more information. Submit the URL of your YouTube™ video review or product demonstration. e.g., "http://www.youtube.com/v/o79TWHh598U" 500 characters left Pros 500 characters left Cons * Agree to Terms By checking this box you agree your review becomes the property of Crutchfield, that you are over 18 years of age, that you own or have owned this product, and that you are located within the United States or its territories. Please see our Review Guidelines for more information. We reserve the right (but are not obligated to) review all submissions and edit or remove any review in any manner which we deem necessary. Your review should be posted within seven days. Filter by rating: 5 Star: (0) 4 Star: (0) 3 Star: (0) 2 Star: (0) 1 Star: (0) 5 out of 5 Kicker 10CVR124 Written By devron, powder springs, ga on Wednesday, August 06, 2014 Beautiful sub, looks as good as it sounds. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Kicker 10CVR124 Written By Anonymous, logan utah on Wednesday, April 02, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I had to call tech support for help on how i should run the wires. they were great theylooked up my amp & were very friendly. now its all working great & the sound quality is great & my bass is bumpin! thank you crutchfield. 1 out of 1 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Great sub Written By Anonymous, Anderson SC on Thursday, March 27, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Another great product from Crutchfield. Fast shipping and all my questions answered. Couldn't be happier. Pros: Well made sub that sounds very clean. Cons: I don't have room for another. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Excellent Written By TJ, Escatawpa, MS on Thursday, March 27, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This is an amazing subwoofer for the price. Thumps hard and handles power very well. Pros: Power Handling and Sound Quality Cons: None Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Kicker CompVR Written By Austinadame, Phoenix, az on Thursday, December 05, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) For this sub, I'm glad I purchased it. It's a good deep clean bass and I have no regrets spending this much money. I now have 2 of these in the back of my trunk and with it throbbing and a dip in with the windows close, it's seriously hard to breath. Hahaha I love it Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Beastmode Subs Written By Anonymous, Oak Island, NC on Monday, October 21, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I got these subs 3 weeks ago and they are simply amazing. When I got them I only had a 1000 watt a/b amp and it only was giving them 250 watts rms each. Even then they sounded pretty good, recently upgraded to an Pioneer Gm-d8601 which I also purchased from this site. I wired them in parallel for 1 ohm and these things hit HARD. As far as how long these subs will last I don't know because the short time I've owned them, but the build quality seems excellent. Would buy these again and definitely recommend these to anyone who wants some loud good sounding bass. Pros: *Loud *Sound great when supplied enough power *Good Price * Easy to connect Cons: * Haven't owned long enough to find any 1 out of 1 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Best all around subwoofer Written By socghost, Virginia Beach, Virginia on Monday, October 21, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This is one of the best subs I have ever owned. I have loved car audio since before I could drive, and have had just about every brand under the sun. This sub fills in all the requirements for a great all around speaker. I have put every kind of music through it and it just keeps on going... Its like the energizer bunny of subwoofers. It has a great frequency range, good power handling, versatile wiring options, as well as looking great. I had an older version of this sub that was destroyed by a faulty amplifier and when it got eaten, you best believe I replaced it with this newer model of the same speaker. You just cant be what you get for the price. Pros: Frequency range Power handling Versatile wiring options Stylish look Durable Cons: While I get the updated look, I sort of prefer to look of the old solobarics, smooth inverted dome. So if I were to change one thing it would be that. The + - terminals on the back are arranged sort of funny, when wiring they can be easy to cross and accidentally wire series instead of parallel, so pay attention when wiring. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Lovin the CVRs Written By TeejW., Fryeburger, ME on Sunday, July 22, 2012 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Got the CVR 12s tucked behind the seats of my regular cab chevy and they do an awesome job. My amp blows and these things still bump like its nothing. Couldnt ask for anything better. 1 out of 1 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Kicker Pounds Written By Kick'n SS, Kiladelphia, Pa on Monday, June 25, 2012 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I went with the 12" CVR b/c Crutchfield doesn't sell the Kicker CVX (what's up with that anyway) and Crutchfield doesn't have the Solo-Classic available in 12" (again what up with that). I'm a loyal customer to Crutchfield since 1997. Prices continue to be competitive thus Crutchfield is the place I go to first. Just wish there was more of a selection on Kicker Subs. So my one critique of Crutchfield is the subpar selection (I won't mention competitors). Crutchfield research department is buy far the best out there. Keep the prices competitive and I'm a loyal customer 4-life......thanks Bill, you continue to run a top notch organization!!! Pros: 2-12"s as a package deal, you can't beat That price!!! I only needed one "12 for my new Camaro SS, so the second one is my spair. Or I might drop the spare CVR in the Z06 vette (again I wish Crutchfield had the SOLO Classic in 12" but they don't. In the SS I have 1-12" CVR in a sealed box (1.25cuft). Wired to a Kicker ZX.500.1 wired down to 2ohms. Thus I'm pushing all the Amps power (500 watts, well 592 watts per the birth sheet) to this sub and it pounds hard in a sealed. Cons: Does NOT have the accurate bass compared to others. It's loud, but the SQ is 3 to 4 stars, the accuracy of the bass just isn't there. Why kicker has to sacrifice pure SQ for SPL these days is beyond me. Again, the CVR was my third choice since Crutchfield doesn't sell the 12" CVX or Solo-Classic. Overall if your looking for loud, the CVRs are great! As always kicker builds their Subs to last and take the (my abuse). Try that with a foam surround (um JL) or a paper cone (um Rockford). Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 4 out of 5 Kicker 10CVR124 Written By Anonymous, new York on Thursday, May 10, 2012 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Its ok I expected more bass. Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 Great for the $$$ Written By Timmy, Aurora, Il on Friday, February 24, 2012 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This sub went in the smaller vented Sound Ordinance box. This sub's spec asked for a larger enclosure, but I didn't have the room. It was installed in a Mitsubishi Lancer RallyArt powered by a Sound Ordinance M1500. The whole package worked very well together. It hit low and clean and the punch was very tight. If you had the room, I would suggest the larger box to get a little more volume for the lows, but I was happy on how this turned out. It was loud enough to be heard outside of a sealed car (windows and doors closed) from 500', but not obnoxious enough to make the entire car rattle. Pros: Hits hard and deep without breaking the bank. Cons: none Was this review helpful? Yes | No "Coolness Factor" Build Quality Ease of Use Sound Quality Value 5 out of 5 KICKER DREAM SYSTEM Written By SNOWMAN, kansas on Monday, July 11, 2011 Wanted to contact u and let u know how all has gone. And feel free to publish. DREAM SYSTEM, I have had many systems over time costing thousands. well now I have the best sounding sytem I have ever had for a total investment of $812 (includes all wires and cables) And yes I managed to get every item ON SALE BIG TIME, except one. Total would have been approx $3500. Running 4 kicker 11ks693,s pr of tweeters, pr of 4x6 dash (only because of wattage240) new kicker compVR 10vr124-12". Sealed sweet 1" custom box. 1- 4 channel 600 watt amp. 1 600 watt mono amp(2ohm) stable. And CLARION CZ501 Head unit. IN a full size pick up. Well there was apparently a local radio comp goin on with the young crowd. So I decided to pull in and check it out. And eventually they wanted to hear mine. MAN THEY WERE BLOW AWAY, they voted mine the best. Could not believe how they could hear every note crystall clear and no bass muffle or flubber what so ever. And just flat out scream, kinda of made this old man feel good.(THANKS GUYS) When a police officer came he was very pleasant and has asked if I would mine doing his daughters car. when my crossovers come in will sound even that much better. Hope I can stop by next time I come thru stillwater and let you all listen to what you have helped create. Been doing systems for about 30yrs and this one is amazing. No one still belives the cost and to have this quality. WELL DONE TO ALL AT THE KICKER CO. LIVIN LOUD AND PROUD TILL IM IN THE GROUND 6 out of 6 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes | No 5 out of 5 Bass Written By DanDanger, Fayetteville, GA on Saturday, February 05, 2011 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) If you want to feel your music, and you want everyone near you to feel it to, I recommend this sub! I put it in the back seat of my 2006 Ranger, and it's such a powerful feeling to have a 12" Kicker firing behind your back! 3 out of 4 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes | No 2 questions already asked What's the maximum rms can you use for these speakers? What's the best amp that's qualified for these sub? [ stephen May 12, 2014 ] 5 answers What about wiring 4 of them off a monoblock amp .. What would you recommend [ chase May 21, 2014 ] I'm looking for more bass without touching the gain on the amp or bass boost. I still have my factory radio and factory speakers [ stephen May 14, 2014 ] I have one in a custom sealed box. 2013 Camaro. It puts out nice power and good sound. I have a 12cx300.1 kicker amp and it can take all of the power from the amp. I don't know what sound you are looking for but if you have two of these and a nice size amp with air space I don't think that you can go wrong. [ GREG C May 13, 2014 ] The max Rms you can get wit these is about 400. An one of the best amp to run these speakers is a kicker zx750.1 which is what i have. The speakers peak out at about 800watts and although this amp say its maxes at 750watts per channel, kicker underrates their amps. My amp makes 932watts per channel. The amps birth sheet told me. So the amp is plenty enough to power those speakers. [ BRANDON May 13, 2014 ] The spec is 800W Peak 400W RMS Rigid SoloKon cone Double Stitched Surround Ribbed Santoprene Surround Spring-Loaded Terminals Spiralead Tinsel Leads So IMO a two channel 400 watt per channel @4ohm or a mono block 800 watt @ 2ohm http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Mobile/App/Product/Item/Specs.aspx?i=2064KX8K1&tp=35834&nvpair=YCMinimum_Impedance_Unbridged%7c2&nvpair=YCAmplifier_Class%7cD&nvpair=AG_General_Features%7cYCSpeaker_Level_Inputs&nvpair=FFCustomer_Rating%7c%5brank1%5d5+stars%5bimg%5d [ WILLIAM May 13, 2014 ] How should i wire my sub in order to get the highest rms? [ Dakota Feb 15, 2014 ] 1 answer This will depend on the amp set-up that you have. You can find subwoofer wiring diagrams on our website here: http://www.crutchfield.com/learn/learningcenter/car/subwoofers_wiring.html?showAll=N [ Jeff Staff Feb 17, 2014 ] Add accessories for the Kicker 10CVR124 Add Accessories Add a Warranty We've verified that these enclosures are a good match for this subwoofer. See all categories & accessories We've verified that these enclosures are a good match for this subwoofer. Empty Enclosures It's critical to have good wire, and none is included with the sub. Speaker Wire Reduce ambient road noise and your vehicle's "rattles," for better sound inside your car. Sound Deadening Add a grille and keep your sub safe. Subwoofer Grilles These can be useful if you are building a custom box. 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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said on Wednesday it is investigating Greek yogurt maker Chobani's handling of a mold problem with its product after the company asked some retailers last week to remove yogurt cups from store shelves.
Consumers had complained to Chobani over social media about off-tasting yogurt with bloated containers. Some reported gastrointestinal distress; others deplored the characteristically thick Greek yogurt's "runny" consistency.
The company did not issue a recall notice over the problem, the FDA told Reuters, but instead the company contacted stores directly.
Chobani did not provide a response after multiple emails and calls for comment and its website was down on Wednesday evening, making it impossible to access prior statements on the subject.
On Tuesday, Chobani told Food Navigator, an industry publication, that it had "investigated the cause of the (swelling/bloating) and have identified a type of mold commonly found in the dairy environment."
The private company said the problem had affected less than 5 percent of its production and was limited to yogurt cups produced at Chobani's Idaho plant. The company also has a plant in New York and one in Australia.
Also on Tuesday, Chobani said in a Facebook comment that cups with the code 16-012 and expiration dates between 9/11/2013 and 10/7/2013 would be replaced.
On Friday, it posted on its Facebook page that it was "in the process of voluntarily removing and replacing some products from store shelves that did not meet our rigid quality standards."
Chobani's handling of its yogurt recall is unusual, according to Tamara Ward, a spokeswoman for the FDA.
Ward said the FDA is in discussions with the company to assess the nature of the problem, the level of risk to the public, whether the issue has been contained, and whether Chobani is doing enough to communicate any risk to the public.
So far the company has not issued a formal recall notice since it does not believe there is a safety risk, Ward said, though the product appears to be going bad early.
Ward said that the FDA "would expect" to be told of any potential safety risk with a product. The agency does not plan itself to issue a recall but is currently examining the company's communications and would oversee any recall notice issued by Chobani.
Euromonitor, a sales tracking firm, ranks Chobani, a private company, second-best selling brand in the U.S. Greek-style yogurt market, after Yoplait.
Greek-style yogurt, which is thicker, creamier and often higher in protein that other types of yogurt, now makes up more than 40 percent of the U.S. yogurt market, Reuters has reported.
(Editing by Bob Burgdorfer)
Chobani's yogurt recall prompts federal probe
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said on Wednesday it is investigating Greek yogurt maker Chobani's handling of a mold problem with its product after the company asked some retailers last week to remove yogurt cups from store shelves.
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as consumer with these product codes, what do we do with them?
Well, that explains my stomach upset... I have some left in in the fridge and it is going straight back to the grocery store.
I bought Chobani yogurt in Costa Mesa California 2 1/2 weeks ago. My daughter open up the container and the yogurt exploded all over her shirt and her surroundings. She thought the texture of the yogurt seemed different, but started eating it. She thought it tasted rotten. I took a taste and it was awful. We threw it in the garbage and clean up her shirt and the sofa she was sitting on. If I had know there was a problem with the brand, I would have saved the carton.
Same thing, purchased at Costco, Dana Point
Purchased a case of Chobani at a Costco in the Seattle area and had similar issues (bloated container, runny consistency, and nasty taste).
Wondering about the 'limit' Chobani is claiming, as I bought Chobani tubes of yogurt for grandkids. The tubes have been being bloated and the yogurt, some of which is runny. Time to double check it. Anyone else with this problem?
My wife ate some this morning, finishing the product which she said tasted okay. She did ask when she opened it why the package seemed puffed up? Checked the package and, YEP, 16-012 expires 10-7-13. HEY CHOBANI, how about a comment for people who have ingested the tainted product!!!! Should we be making appointments with our doctors? How about a way to contact the company for concerns.
Love Chobani Pineapple yogurt, it's all I eat besides the Oikos Blueberry flavor. Had a cup of Chobani the other day, before this problem was made public & the yogurt tasted & looked fine. I have since checked the lot numbers on my cups and apparently they were not produced in the Idaho plant. Don't know why everyone is so wound up over this event when we have to cope with contaminated Mexican vegetables, beef with e-coli and a host of other food issues that are a direct result of mass production and employing illegal immigrants. Eliminate those two variables and start producing food regionally instead of conglomerates shipping nationwide and a lot of these problems will disappear immediately
This is why my family doesn't buy the ones with the "fruit on the bottom" label.
I opened one up on Tuesday and when I lifted off the lid, there was a loud popping noise = I had one teaspoon and threw it in the garbage = it tasted very nasty with a wine sour taste.
Wow, this just happened to me this week and it was pretty disgusting. Mine had expiration dates of late September. I went to the fridge, snagged a black cherry Chobani and when I went to watch TV yogurt splattered all over my shirt and couch. It was not thick, as usual, but very runny (like generic yogurt). I tried one dab on my tongue and it was bad...almost as though it had fermented and turned to alcohol. I went to grab another one and the top ballooned up and was as tight as a snare drum; the container was ballooned out too. I didn't even try that one. Funny thing is, I set them on the counter to show my wife, but forget that night. The next morning, the yogurt from the one I opened had expanded (like those black worms kids light on the 4th of July) and oozed all over the counter and the one I didn't open actually popped the lid off the container and oozed all over the counter. Nasty, just nasty. Hopefully the FDA gets an explanation...
I had been to the chobani plant and had seen the employees they have in the plant...I would never buy chobani better to stay with Yoplait yogurt..This doesn't surprise me at all..But why did this company not do a recall right away?? Instead just contacting the stores to pull of shelves??? Sounds fishy to me...
It wasn't mold....My daughter is one of the ones that got sick.I was the one who started the Chobani Buyer Beware due to food poisoning on their Facebook site...Social Media is so important for individuals to get the message out if there is a safety issue for the mass public..Not to discredit a company, but to legitimately advise the general public...We heard a pop as if there was air in the container---could be E coli, I have sent pictures of the lot # to the FDA in my region---the container(s) had a slight bubble--almost like a can, but I didn't notice due to it being in a 4 pack container....
This explains the upset stomach I had a few weeks ago. Shame on you Chobani. If this is in fact true you lost a loyal customer forever!!!
I KNEW IT. I had bought a packaged group of 4. I opened one and it tasted different, not right, not good. It was runny. I threw it and opened another and the lid was bloated. I took a taste and it was not right. I looked at the rest and the lids were puffed. I tossed them out. Figured I got an old batch and was irritated that I paid for them. I opened a few older singles I had and they were too thick, I just tossed them. I just bought 4 new ones and they have been good and right. I am not buying these again until the company get's this right!!!! Good thing I did not get sick after tasting the bad ones.
does not surprise me-----being sold to all school districts, but yet uses GMOs by Monsanto Corporation. Chobani IS NOT AN ALL NATURAL YOGURT. CONTAINS GMOS CHOBANI JUST SPENT $52 MILLION TO EXPAND THEIR PLANT, BUT COULD NOT USE IT TO TRULY MAKE IT AN ALL NATURAL AND GET RID OF GMOS, ESPECIALLY FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN. COULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED TO A NICER COMPANY.
I don't think the company is telling the truth about how long this problem has been going on. I had yogurt in mid July and it was runny and tasted disgusting. There is more to this than they are saying
Yup, I had one of the rotten ones a couple days ago. Bought in Visalia. When I went back to the store yesterday all the Chobani yogurts were off the self.
That explains it, after reading about Chobani's recall in the new, i found a cup of this stuff in the trash. It was bloated with black mold. i ate the whole thing, it tasted off. Shame on you all for throwing out the rotten chobani.
I was in Idaho last week visiting family and bought a few as they were on sale. I didn't know what to expect but our lid #'s on them fit the recall #'s and 2 of them were eaten. I've emailed email@example.com and have heard nothing back from them.
Goodness! I eat a Chobani yogurt every day! I was complaining to a friend that the yogurt was runny! Now I know why....I thought they had changed the recipe and was upset. At least I didn't get sick. Better check out the ones in the fridge!
Purchased mine at Shoppers two days ago. Thought it was funny how the containers were bloated...had never seen that before. My son ate one and commented on how funny it tasted and his tongue was fizzling. I no sooner had the conversation with him and found comments online about issues with the stuff. Thank God I put the containers in a plastic bag cause on my way back to the store to return them, one blew up in the bag! Kinda scary when you think about it how we consumers put our trust in companies to produce a quality and safe product to eat. Just thankful my son is doing well and so far, no problem. It kinda ticks me off to know that Chobani knew of the complaints and sat on it knowing full and well that something was up. Not cool. Not sure I'll buy the product anymore after this.
I've just conducted my own investigation and found out that most of you have nothing better to do than set on your fat, bloated butts, eat yogurt and criticize a delicious and tasty yogurt. Obtw, it passed my test. I think I might have another.
Last week I purchased 2 of the Chobani Flips and even though they were within the expiration date, my yogurt was bubbling and fizzing. I ate a few bites and it did taste awkward, so I tossed both containers.
It is one of the best tasting Yoghurt in this century. I believe the store temperatures are causing this running, watery and taste problems. These Yoghurt cups must be kept in right cooling temperature. When we had a power outage, all the cups turned watery, they did not taste nice.
I am also very dissatisfied with how misleading this situation has been. I agree with others that this problem has been going on for a very long time! I remember over a year ago we had purchased the children's version of this product (a four pack), and when we opened them, they sounded like someone had opened a soda can. When we tasted it, it also tasted like it was carbonated. Very strange. Recently, I purchased five of the pineapple flavored Chobani yogurts, which were dated September 11th, 2013, and when I opened them, they had a layer of liquid on top, and the rest of it looked curdled. When I researched this problem, I read that it was just a quality control issue, that mainly affected the taste, and that's why they were being pulled from store shelves, but it was still safe to eat and not officially recalled. So I ate mine anyways, and ended up totally sick! Now I am hearing there is a mold problem?!?! This is unacceptable.
Any bloated, puffy, ballooned food container goes in the trash. Do not open, let alone eat.
lmao i did the same thing lol
is this also the case for the Chobani flips?? I have noticed the ballooned top and a runny consistency on a few of those as well??
This explains why my grandson gets the runs and my stomach gets upsets after eating.
Stores in Maryland are pulling Chobani product down today. I saw the 4 pack chobani also being pulled down from shelves.
Neet, I agree with you 100%. Pineapple is my favorite too. I don't understand; if a container of any food is bloated and does'nt look right, why would anyone injest it. Checked all of my containers and they are all good. I am eating one right now as I type this comment. LOL. Look before you leap!
Neet, I agree with you 100%. Pineapple is my favorite too. I don't understand; if a container of any food is bloated and does'nt look right, why would anyone injest it. Checked all of my containers and they are all good. I am eating one right now as I type this comment. LOL. Look before you leap!
Same thing, bought some Chobani yogurt about four weeks ago at a store in Willow Park, TX and the 4 of the 6 containers got bloated after a day in the fridge...new something was wrong and tossed the stuff. Bought some more about two weeks ago at the same store and had 2 containers do the same thing. Even with the containers sealed I had a funky yogurt smell in my fridge....
I recently bought one of the cases of kids tube yogurts, and every tube in there was nasty. I opened one up the day I bought them to give to my son and it was practically water on the inside, so I tasted it and it had a moldy taste to it, I thought it was strange because it wasn't expired or anything, but I didn't really think anything of it so I just threw the whole case away and went and bought a new case which all of them have been fine so far. This is really not that big of a deal, but I was just throwing this out there that it may not just be the cups, I would check the kids tubes too.
I experienced the same thing today. Thankfully, I had a few bites and had to through away the rest of the product. Yuck! Sadly, it was one of my first tries of this brand/flavor and they lost a customer. Who said Greek yogurt was better anyhow, it's a fad. The fewer the ingredients and the more ingredients you recognize is the product you go with. Canadian...ah, I can't recall the full name right now, but I have always been happy with their yogurt. Tasty, simple, and good for you. Sold in more health concious food stores and not over-priced. This shows lack of respect for the consumer, to allow this product to reach the shelves.
So far, there has not been any issue with the ones I purchase in NJ every day...The flips are always runny for some reason though...weird. My husband wants me to switch brands for awhile til this whole mess is dealt with. Oikos doesn't have as good a flavor but the yoplait are pretty good. I won a free case of Chobani, back in April. So I don't want to say anything too bad about them...as I said, not a quality issue around here, but will be playing it safe til the dust clears...
You're an idiot.
I stopped buying Chobani a few months ago, after eating one that was the texture of soup. I couldn't stomach another. This stuff used to be good, but something fishy happened. P.S. Chobani has never made REAL Greek yogurt anyway. Shame that they can get away with calling it that. Should be false advertising.
I bought a 4 pack at Winco. 2 were "bloated" so I threw them out. I think I will throw the other two out now. Yikes. Don't eat bloated yogurt folks.
Same exact thing happened in my house! I thought our fridge was acting up again, but after we returned the rotten yogurts for new ones and the explosions happened again only with the yogurts, we knew it wasn't the fridge.
Yeah I'm done with them ,We just threw out seven of ten cups . My wife said one that she had at work was soupy and another blew up in the fridge "smelled really bad". Not a rich man by any means but they can keep my ten dollars as a lesson to myself not to go back down that road again.
I just checked my fridge, and they are going back. I should have listened when my Mom said she didn't like the taste.I Still have the reciept, so back it goes.Don't think I will take a chance on this product again....I don't know why it explodes when you open the lid.
purchased at Demoulas in Danvers Massachusetts My purchase was two - four packs, one pineapple and other strawberry. I was addicted to your product. Originally my thought was poor placement of product on refrigerated shelves. Yes, my product tasted off and sour, then the blow up all over the refrigerator. Was not happy cleaning up the mess. Stomach was questionable and did not finish, Strawberry was the worst as it was all mixed through the container...............
Same with me, opened up a cup and noticed it was runny and had some bubbles in it. Thought it was weird but decided to stir it up and eat it anyways. The taste was awful, very bitter tasting alomost like a not quite ripe persimmon. Threw it away and no issues after that, all the other cups were fine. It happens, I still enjoy the yogurt nonetheless.
I've had 1/day the past week and all tasted fine.
I had the same problem. I have switched brands because Chobani is horrible. I will never eat it again.
Food companies do not have enough disclosure and transparency and the FDA allows them to get away with it. I just wrote General Mills about their Nature Valley Oats n Honey to find out the countries of origin of the ingredients used and the country where packaging was done since the box just says "Distributed" in Minnesota. Corporate response from the person whose initials are HK was that they couldn't give me the answers. This makes it a mystery food then! I bought it in Costco and the barcode was 0 16000 28526 2 which I provided but they still wouldn't answer. This is a food product and the public needs to know what they are eating.
Sounds like they have a real top notch Regulatory group. They probably don't know what the "F" stands for in FDA
I had to throw out several containers that were wattery and there was one I purchased at Foodarama that was partically sealed. I also experienced serious bloating in my stomach as well as mild pain. I had purchased more containers from Randalls when I heard about the bad batch. I am disappointed in this company and will no longer purchase any more of their products. Well FDA...do your job and ask for a "Total Recall!" It is our health we are talking about. Thanks for nothing...money grabbers!
Got very ill this week, so much so that I called the MD from my office. She suspected food poisioning and asked if I had the Chobani brand.....and yup I did. Horrible diarrhea, (TMI), and stomach pains, I could barely move. Further TMI, she is doing stool studies to see what is the cause of all of these symptoms. I am still on anti-nausea meds. It is Friday, 5 days after my last Chobani, and I still feel....wait for it, like crap. Take a pic of your Chobani lid with the product number before you throw it away, or at least keep the lid for future reference and/or class action suits!
Do you people have no common sense? If a product container is bulging and the contents are fizzy...DO NOT EAT IT! Mistakes happen, are you all perfect?
I have really loved Chobani since it came out. It was basically my favorite thing to eat. I was in love with pineapple and mango. But earlier this year it started tasting funny and I had a multi-pak of pineapple and they all were rotten. I had a couple of single ones and they tasted weird and totally different from how they used to be. So I stopped buying them. I really think they changed the formula so they could make more money.
Bought the smaller kids cups over a week ago for my daughter at a Costco in Waterbury,Connecticut. The next day all the containers were so swollen and about to burst. Threw them all away. Now a recall.
I usally eat the peach Chobani but accidently picked up an apricot. When it was opened it popped and squirted. Very runny and the taste was fizzy on my tongue. Didn't get sick tho. Threw it away. However, the peach ones were ok. On my last shopping trip I did not buy Chobani but another brand.
Sheena, you need to STOP eating this crap now!
Diane, just because something taste good doesnt mean it is good for you.
Chobani is the most inconsistent crap I've ever seen from a company. It's very sloppily produced (I'm in the dairy automation industry, and I've seen my share of good, bad, and ugly plants). The couple of times I gave it a try - admittedly, before I had seen the abhorrent QC in place - I found the yoguts had an excessive acetic acid component and a gritty mouthfeel that was completely objectionable when graded against a Greek prototype (one that was actually strained with cheesecloth). I wouldn't serve it to a death row inmate. OTOH, Greek style yogurts produced by Wallaby (organic) and FAGE (non-organic) are produced to much higher standards. They're the only ones currently available in the market that I would eat, considering the standards of plant and supplier cleanliness, taste, and their lack of additives/preservatives.
Same prob happened from a batch bought at Costco in Tracy, Ca. I was gone for the weekend after I bought it and assumed that my fridge stopped working for some time. Didn't realize it was a company wide issue. It's my families favorite yogi (as the kids call it) so I hope the issues are resolved soon.
I smelled an odor in fridge. Checked and found cups bulging or broken. Heard about the problem, put all the cups in bag and put in my trunk and went to the store. I told the cashier I thought there was a recall this am. He didn't know about it but he checked the Internet and it was confirmed, gave me refund. By the time he opened the bag to count them, almost all the covers popped. Glad I put them in a bag.
My daughter's Chobani TUBES were bloated as well, that Ipurchased. About. 2 weeks ago. Thought I may have left them out, but I'm very careful about.that .....I actually contacted the store I purchaed from to see if they've heard of anything. Sorry for.punctuation, phone is acting up.
I love this yogurt, noticed that it has been runnier than usual, containers puffed up too and yesterday opened one that fizzed in my mouth like hydrogen peroxide, it also tasted terrible. I eat these at least 5 times a week and have been noticing stomach upset for a couple of weeks. All of my yogurt currently in my fridge at home and at work have this product code on them. I am so happy to know this is going on, I will continue to buy them, but it did freak me out a little. I was also happy to know what was making me feel sick to my stomach for so long. Thanks for being proactive and taking care of your customers... I am still a fan
I bought a large container over a week ago. When I opened it, it was not thick like it normally is. I told my husband this doesn't taste right and it's runny. It didn't smell right either. I still have it. NOT EATING IT AT ALL because I knew something was wrong with it. Now I know why it's like it is. It has the Code # 16-012 and dates. UGH! I will NOT ever buy anymore Chobani brand and might not eat anymore yogurt again.
Wasted a carton of eggs. Thought it was the eggs that made me ill. Bought diff. eggs and more Chobani lemon. May have had bad eggs before, but these yogurts puffed and the last one opened itself when touched. Then I heard about the recall and remembered some time ago, the 'fizz' others mentioned. Note: I used a cooler with ice to bring these items home from the store.
I personally became very ill. I was down for three days. The sad part is I lost out on a 4 day vacation and I had to take an additional day off work. Your sorry, i get that, but sorry will not give me back the time I lost off work, the concert I had to leave early because I was Ill or the $100.00 taxi ride to get home from the concert because I was too ill to take the train home. I do thank you for the 3 pounds I lost from not being able to eat for 3 days. How could you let this happen. The public trust food providers to provide safe food for consumption. Your company failed and the public suffered because of your failure.
Hey Connecticut - why is everyone so wound up. Try watching two very young grandchildren scream and cry because their tummies hurt, vomiting, diahrrea, going to urgent care and the emergency room, then ask again why people are upset. You are a moron. To bad you didn't get sick.
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You may have some of the following exams and tests:
- Physical exam: Your doctor checks for swollen lymph nodes in your neck, underarms, and groin. Your doctor also checks for a swollen spleen or liver.
- Blood tests: The lab does a complete blood count to check the number of white blood cells. The lab also checks for other cells and substances, such as lactate dehydrogenase (LDH). Lymphoma may cause a high level of LDH.
- Chest x-rays: You may have x-rays to check for swollen lymph nodes or other signs of disease in your chest.
- Biopsy: A biopsy is the only sure way to diagnose lymphoma. Your doctor may remove an entire lymph node (excisional biopsy) or only part of a lymph node (incisional biopsy). A thin needle (fine needle aspiration) usually cannot remove a large enough sample for the pathologist to diagnose lymphoma. Removing an entire lymph node is best. The pathologist uses a microscope to check the tissue for lymphoma cells.
- How will the biopsy be done?
- Where will I have my biopsy?
- Will I have to do anything to prepare for it?
- How long will it take? Will I be awake? Will it hurt?
- Are there any risks? What are the chances of swelling, infection, or bleeding after the biopsy?
- How long will it take me to recover?
- How soon will I know the results? Who will explain them to me?
- If I do have cancer, who will talk to me about next steps? When?
Types of Non-Hodgkin LymphomaWhen lymphoma is found, the pathologist reports the type. There are many types of lymphoma. The most common types are diffuse large B-cell lymphoma and follicular lymphoma.
Lymphomas may be grouped by how quickly they are likely to grow:
- Indolent (also called low-grade) lymphomas grow slowly. They tend to cause few symptoms.
- Aggressive (also called intermediate-grade and high-grade) lymphomas grow and spread more quickly. They tend to cause severe symptoms. Over time, many indolent lymphomas become aggressive lymphomas.
Your doctor needs to know the extent (stage) of non-Hodgkin lymphoma to plan the best treatment. Staging is a careful attempt to find out what parts of the body are affected by the disease.
Lymphoma usually starts in a lymph node. It can spread to nearly any other part of the body. For example, it can spread to the liver, lungs, bone, and bone marrow.
Staging may involve one or more of the following tests:
- Bone marrow biopsy: The doctor uses a thick needle to remove a small sample of bone and bone marrow from your hipbone or another large bone. Local anesthesia can help control pain. A pathologist looks for lymphoma cells in the sample.
- CT scan: An x-ray machine linked to a computer takes a series of detailed pictures of your head, neck, chest, abdomen, or pelvis. You may receive an injection of contrast material. Also, you may be asked to drink another type of contrast material. The contrast material makes it easier for the doctor to see swollen lymph nodes and other abnormal areas on the x-ray.
- MRI: Your doctor may order MRI pictures of your spinal cord, bone marrow, or brain. MRI uses a powerful magnet linked to a computer. It makes detailed pictures of tissue on a computer screen or film.
- Ultrasound: An ultrasound device sends out sound waves that you cannot hear. A small hand-held device is held against your body. The waves bounce off nearby tissues, and a computer uses the echoes to create a picture. Tumors may produce echoes that are different from the echoes made by healthy tissues. The picture can show possible tumors.
- Spinal tap: The doctor uses a long, thin needle to remove fluid from the spinal column. Local anesthesia can help control pain. You must lie flat for a few hours afterward so that you don't get a headache. The lab checks the fluid for lymphoma cells or other problems.
- PET scan: You receive an injection of a small amount of radioactive sugar. A machine makes computerized pictures of the sugar being used by cells in your body. Lymphoma cells use sugar faster than normal cells, and areas with lymphoma look brighter on the pictures.
The stage is based on where lymphoma cells are found (in the lymph nodes or in other organs or tissues). The stage also depends on how many areas are affected. The stages of non-Hodgkin lymphoma are as follows:
- Stage I: The lymphoma cells are in one lymph node group (such as in the neck or underarm). Or, if the abnormal cells are not in the lymph nodes, they are in only one part of a tissue or organ (such as the lung, but not the liver or bone marrow).
- Stage II: The lymphoma cells are in at least two lymph node groups on the same side of (either above or below) the diaphragm. (See the picture of the diaphragm.) Or, the lymphoma cells are in one part of an organ and the lymph nodes near that organ (on the same side of the diaphragm). There may be lymphoma cells in other lymph node groups on the same side of the diaphragm.
- Stage III: The lymphoma is in lymph nodes above and below the diaphragm. It also may be found in one part of a tissue or an organ near these lymph node groups.
- Stage IV: Lymphoma cells are found in several parts of one or more organs or tissues (in addition to the lymph nodes). Or, it is in the liver, blood, or bone marrow.
- Recurrent: The disease returns after treatment.
In addition to these stage numbers, your doctor may also describe the stage as A or B:
- A: You have not had weight loss, drenching night sweats, or fevers.
- B: You have had weight loss, drenching night sweats, or fevers.
Your doctor can describe your treatment choices and the expected results. You and your doctor can work together to develop a treatment plan that meets your needs.
Your doctor may refer you to a specialist, or you may ask for a referral. Specialists who treat non-Hodgkin lymphoma include hematologists, medical oncologists, and radiation oncologists. Your doctor may suggest that you choose an oncologist who specializes in the treatment of lymphoma. Often, such doctors are associated with major academic centers. Your health care team may also include an oncology nurse and a registered dietitian.
The choice of treatment depends mainly on the following:
- The type of non-Hodgkin lymphoma (for example, follicular lymphoma)
- Its stage (where the lymphoma is found)
- How quickly the cancer is growing (whether it is indolent or aggressive lymphoma)
- Your age
- Whether you have other health problems
If you have indolent non-Hodgkin lymphoma without symptoms, you may not need treatment for the cancer right away. The doctor watches your health closely so that treatment can start when you begin to have symptoms. Not getting cancer treatment right away is called watchful waiting.
If you have indolent lymphoma with symptoms, you will probably receive chemotherapy and biological therapy. Radiation therapy may be used for people with Stage I or Stage II lymphoma.
If you have aggressive lymphoma, the treatment is usually chemotherapy and biological therapy. Radiation therapy also may be used.
If non-Hodgkin lymphoma comes back after treatment, doctors call this a relapse or recurrence. People with lymphoma that comes back after treatment may receive high doses of chemotherapy, radiation therapy, or both, followed by stem cell transplantation.
You may want to know about side effects and how treatment may change your normal activities. Because chemotherapy and radiation therapy often damage healthy cells and tissues, side effects are common. Side effects may not be the same for each person, and they may change from one treatment session to the next. Before treatment starts, your health care team will explain possible side effects and suggest ways to help you manage them.
At any stage of the disease, you can have supportive care. Supportive care is treatment to control pain and other symptoms, to relieve the side effects of therapy, and to help you cope with the feelings that a diagnosis of cancer can bring. See the Supportive Care section.
You may want to talk to your doctor about taking part in a clinical trial, a research study of new treatment methods. See the Taking Part in Cancer Research section.
You may want to ask your doctor these questions before you begin treatment:
- What type of lymphoma do I have? May I have a copy of the report from the pathologist?
- What is the stage of my disease? Where are the tumors?
- What are my treatment choices? Which do you recommend for me? Why?
- Will I have more than one kind of treatment?
- What are the expected benefits of each kind of treatment? How will we know the treatment is working? What tests will be used to check its effectiveness? How often will I get these tests?
- What are the risks and possible side effects of each treatment? What can we do to control the side effects?
- How long will treatment last?
- Will I have to stay in the hospital? If so, for how long?
- What can I do to take care of myself during treatment?
- What is the treatment likely to cost? Will my insurance cover the cost?
- How will treatment affect my normal activities?
- Would a clinical trial be right for me?
- How often will I need checkups?
Watchful WaitingPeople who choose watchful waiting put off having cancer treatment until they have symptoms. Doctors sometimes suggest watchful waiting for people with indolent lymphoma. People with indolent lymphoma may not have problems that require cancer treatment for a long time. Sometimes the tumor may even shrink for a while without therapy. By putting off treatment, they can avoid the side effects of chemotherapy or radiation therapy.
If you and your doctor agree that watchful waiting is a good idea, the doctor will check you regularly (every 3 months). You will receive treatment if symptoms occur or get worse.
Some people do not choose watchful waiting because they don't want to worry about having cancer that is not treated. Those who choose watchful waiting but later become worried should discuss their feelings with the doctor.
You may want to ask your doctor these questions before choosing watchful waiting:
- If I choose watchful waiting, can I change my mind later on?
- Will the disease be harder to treat later?
- How often will I have checkups?
- Between checkups, what problems should I report?
ChemotherapyChemotherapy for lymphoma uses drugs to kill lymphoma cells. It is called systemic therapy because the drugs travel through the bloodstream. The drugs can reach lymphoma cells in almost all parts of the body.
You may receive chemotherapy by mouth, through a vein, or in the space around the spinal cord. Treatment is usually in an outpatient part of the hospital, at the doctor's office, or at home. Some people need to stay in the hospital during treatment.
Chemotherapy is given in cycles. You have a treatment period followed by a rest period. The length of the rest period and the number of treatment cycles depend on the stage of your disease and on the anticancer drugs used.
If you have lymphoma in the stomach caused by H. pylori infection, your doctor may treat this lymphoma with antibiotics. After the drug cures the infection, the lymphoma also may go away.
The side effects depend mainly on which drugs are given and how much. The drugs can harm normal cells that divide rapidly:
- Blood cells: When chemotherapy lowers your levels of healthy blood cells, you are more likely to get infections, bruise or bleed easily, and feel very weak and tired. Your health care team gives you blood tests to check for low levels of blood cells. If levels are low, there are medicines that can help your body make new blood cells.
- Cells in hair roots: Chemotherapy may cause hair loss. If you lose your hair, it will grow back, but it may be somewhat different in color and texture.
- Cells that line the digestive tract: Chemotherapy can cause poor appetite, nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, trouble swallowing, or mouth and lip sores. Ask your health care team about medicines or other treatments that help with these problems.
The drugs used for non-Hodgkin lymphoma also may cause skin rashes or blisters, and headaches or other aches. Your skin may become darker. Your nails may develop ridges or dark bands.
Your doctor can suggest ways to control many of these side effects. You may find it helpful to read NCI's booklet Chemotherapy and You.
You may want to ask your doctor these questions before having chemotherapy:
- Which drugs will I have? What are the expected benefits?
- When will treatment start? When will it end? How often will I have treatments?
- Where will I go for treatment? Will I be able to drive home afterward?
- What can I do to take care of myself during treatment?
- How will we know the treatment is working?
- What side effects should I tell you about? Can I prevent or treat any of these side effects?
- Will there be lasting side effects?
Biological TherapyPeople with certain types of non-Hodgkin lymphoma may have biological therapy. This type of treatment helps the immune system fight cancer.
Monoclonal antibodies are the type of biological therapy used for lymphoma. They are proteins made in the lab that can bind to cancer cells. They help the immune system kill lymphoma cells. People receive this treatment through a vein at the doctor's office, clinic, or hospital.
Flu-like symptoms such as fever, chills, headache, weakness, and nausea may occur. Most side effects are easy to treat. Rarely, a person may have more serious side effects, such as breathing problems, low blood pressure, or severe skin rashes. Your doctor or nurse can tell you about the side effects that you can expect and how to manage them.
You may want to ask the doctor these questions before having biological therapy:
- What will the treatment do?
- Will I have to stay in the hospital?
- How will we know if the treatment is working?
- How long will I be on biological therapy?
- Will I have side effects during treatment? How long will they last? What can we do about them?
Radiation TherapyRadiation therapy (also called radiotherapy) uses high-energy rays to kill lymphoma cells. It can shrink tumors and help control pain. Two types of radiation therapy are used for people with lymphoma:
- External radiation: A large machine aims the rays at the part of the body where lymphoma cells have collected. This is local therapy because it affects cells in the treated area only. Most people go to a hospital or clinic for treatment 5 days a week for several weeks.
- Systemic radiation: Some people with lymphoma receive an injection of radioactive material that travels throughout the body. The radioactive material is bound to monoclonal antibodies that seek out lymphoma cells. The radiation destroys the lymphoma cells.
The side effects of radiation therapy depend mainly on the type of radiation therapy, the dose of radiation, and the part of the body that is treated. For example, external radiation to your abdomen can cause nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. When your chest and neck are treated, you may have a dry, sore throat and some trouble swallowing. In addition, your skin in the treated area may become red, dry, and tender. You also may lose your hair in the treated area.
You are likely to become very tired during external radiation therapy, especially in the later weeks of treatment. Resting is important, but doctors usually advise people to try to stay as active as they can.
People who get systemic radiation also may feel very tired. They may be more likely to get infections.
If you have radiation therapy and chemotherapy at the same time, your side effects may be worse. The side effects can be distressing. You can talk with your doctor about ways to relieve them.
You may find it helpful to read NCI's booklet Radiation Therapy and You.
You may want to ask your doctor these questions before having radiation therapy:
- Why do I need this treatment?
- When will the treatments begin? When will they end?
- How will I feel during treatment?
- How will we know if the radiation treatment is working?
- Are there any lasting side effects?
Stem Cell TransplantationIf lymphoma returns after treatment, you may receive stem cell transplantation. A transplant of your own blood-forming stem cells allows you to receive high doses of chemotherapy, radiation therapy, or both. The high doses destroy both lymphoma cells and healthy blood cells in the bone marrow.
Stem cell transplants take place in the hospital. After you receive high-dose treatment, healthy blood-forming stem cells are given to you through a flexible tube placed in a large vein in your neck or chest area. New blood cells develop from the transplanted stem cells.The stem cells may come from your own body or from a donor:
- Autologous stem cell transplantation: This type of transplant uses your own stem cells. Your stem cells are removed before high-dose treatment. The cells may be treated to kill lymphoma cells that may be present. The stem cells are frozen and stored. After you receive high-dose treatment, the stored stem cells are thawed and returned to you.
- Allogeneic stem cell transplantation: Sometimes healthy stem cells from a donor are available. Your brother, sister, or parent may be the donor. Or the stem cells may come from an unrelated donor. Doctors use blood tests to be sure the donor's cells match your cells.
- Syngeneic stem cell transplantation: This type of transplant uses stem cells from a patient's healthy identical twin.
You may find it helpful to read NCI's fact sheet Bone Marrow Transplantation and Peripheral Blood Stem Cell Transplantation.
You may want to ask the doctor these questions before having a stem cell transplant:
- What are the possible benefits and risks of different types of transplants?
- What kind of stem cell transplant will I have? If I need a donor, how will we find one?
- How long will I need to be in the hospital? Will I need special care? How will I be protected from germs?
- How will we know if the treatment is working?
- What can we do about side effects?
- How will treatment affect my normal activities?
- What is my chance of a full recovery?
Second Opinion
Before starting treatment, you might want a second opinion about your diagnosis and your treatment plan. Many insurance companies cover a second opinion if you or your doctor requests it.
It may take some time and effort to gather your medical records and see another doctor. In most cases, a brief delay in starting treatment will not make treatment less effective. To make sure, you should discuss this delay with your doctor. Sometimes people with non-Hodgkin lymphoma need treatment right away.
There are many ways to find a doctor for a second opinion. You can ask your doctor, a local or state medical society, a nearby hospital, or a medical school for names of specialists. Other sources can be found in the NCI fact sheet How To Find a Doctor or Treatment Facility If You Have Cancer.
Nonprofit groups with an interest in lymphoma may be of help. You may want to see NCI's list of organizations that offer support services.
Supportive Care
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma and its treatment can lead to other health problems. You may receive supportive care to prevent or control these problems and to improve your comfort and quality of life during treatment.
You may receive antibiotics and other drugs to help protect you from infections. Your health care team may advise you to stay away from crowds and from people with colds and other contagious diseases. If an infection develops, it can be serious, and you will need treatment right away.
Non-Hodgkin lymphoma and its treatment also can lead to anemia, which may make you feel very tired. Drugs or blood transfusions can help with this problem.
You can get information about supportive care on NCI's Web site at http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/coping and from NCI's Cancer Information Service at 1-800-4-CANCER and at LiveHelp.
Nutrition and Physical Activity
It's important for you to take care of yourself by eating well and staying as active as you can.
You need the right amount of calories to maintain a good weight. You also need enough protein to keep up your strength. Eating well may help you feel better and have more energy.
Sometimes, especially during or soon after treatment, you may not feel like eating. You may be uncomfortable or tired. You may find that foods do not taste as good as they used to. In addition, the side effects of treatment (such as poor appetite, nausea, vomiting, or mouth sores) can make it hard to eat well. Your doctor, a registered dietitian, or another health care provider can suggest ways to deal with these problems. Also, the NCI booklet Eating Hints has many useful ideas and recipes.
Many people find they feel better when they stay active. Walking, yoga, swimming, and other activities can keep you strong and increase your energy. Exercise may reduce nausea and pain and make treatment easier to handle. It also can help relieve stress. Whatever physical activity you choose, be sure to talk to your doctor before you start. Also, if your activity causes you pain or other problems, be sure to let your doctor or nurse know about it.
Follow-up Care
You'll need regular checkups after treatment for non-Hodgkin lymphoma. Your doctor will watch your recovery closely and check for recurrence of the lymphoma. Checkups help make sure that any changes in your health are noted and treated as needed. Checkups may include a physical exam, lab tests, chest x-rays, and other procedures. Between scheduled visits, you should contact the doctor right away if you have any health problems.
You may want to read the NCI booklet Facing Forward: Life After Cancer Treatment. It answers questions about follow-up care and other concerns.
You may want to ask your doctor these questions after you have finished treatment:
- How often will I need checkups?
- Which follow-up tests do you suggest for me?
- Between checkups, what health problems or symptoms should I tell you about?
Sources of Support
Learning you have non-Hodgkin lymphoma can change your life and the lives of those close to you. These changes can be hard to handle. It's normal for you, your family, and your friends to have many different and sometimes confusing feelings.
Concerns about treatments and managing side effects, hospital stays, and medical bills are common. You may also worry about caring for your family, keeping your job, or continuing daily activities.
Here's where you can go for support:
- Doctors, nurses, and other members of your health care team can answer many of your questions about treatment, working, or other activities.
- Social workers, counselors, or members of the clergy can be helpful if you want to talk about your feelings or concerns. Often, social workers can suggest resources for financial aid, transportation, home care, or emotional support.
- Support groups can also help. In these groups, patients or their family members meet with other patients or their families to share what they have learned about coping with the disease and the effects of treatment. Groups may offer support in person, over the telephone, or on the Internet. You may want to talk with a member of your health care team about finding a support group.
- Information specialists at 1-800-4-CANCER and at LiveHelp can help you locate programs, services, and publications. They can give you names of national organizations that offer services to people with cancer and their families.
For tips on coping, you may want to read the NCI booklet Taking Time: Support for People With Cancer.
Taking Part in Cancer Research
Doctors all over the country are studying new ways to treat lymphoma. Clinical trials (research studies in which people volunteer to take part) find out whether promising approaches to treatment are safe and effective. Research already has led to advances.Researchers are studying many types of treatments for lymphoma:
- Chemotherapy: Doctors are testing new drugs that kill cancer cells. They are working with many drugs and drug combinations. They also are looking at ways of combining drugs with other treatments, such as biological therapy.
- Radiation therapy: Doctors are testing radiation treatment alone and with chemotherapy.
- Biological therapy: New types of biological therapy are under study. For example, researchers are making cancer vaccines that may help the immune system kill lymphoma cells. Also, doctors are studying a type of biological therapy that delivers radiation directly to cancer cells.
- Stem cell transplantation: Doctors are studying stem cell transplantation in people with newly diagnosed lymphoma and those who have already been treated.
People who join clinical trials may be among the first to benefit if a new approach is effective. And even if participants do not benefit directly, they still help doctors learn more about lymphoma and how to control it. Although clinical trials may pose some risks, researchers do all they can to protect their patients.
If you are interested in being part of a clinical trial, you should talk with your doctor. You may want to read the NCI booklet Taking Part in Cancer Treatment Research Studies. It describes how treatment studies are carried out and explains their possible benefits and risks.
NCI's Web site includes a section on clinical trials at http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials. It has general information about clinical trials as well as detailed information about specific ongoing studies of non-Hodgkin lymphoma. Information specialists at 1-800-4-CANCER and at LiveHelp can answer questions and provide information about clinical trials.


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