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Of course, if every passenger and their bags are screened and cleared, who cares WHO you are?
Funny how to fly domestically in Australia, no ID needs to be shown, and I haven't heard about planes falling from the skies daily there because no ID was shown.
Oh, so if a passenger doesn't have ID and then is caught in a TSA make-work gate ID check, what is he supposed to do? Go through the whole rigmarole again at the gate?
Please make it clear this only applies to DOMESTIC travel.
If traveling internationally you MUST have travel documents.
Why is ID required to board a plane?
In United States v. Deborah Davis, the prosecutor dropped the charges because the courts have consistently ruled that one is required to present ID only at the request of law enforcement officers performing a criminal investigation.
Are TSA agents law enforcement officers? Are TSA agents performing a criminal investigation?
If a 19 year-old college student can get a fake ID to drink, why couldn't a terrorist get one too?
Which part of The Constitution of the United States of America says that the Federal Government needs to know who is procuring transportation services from an airline?
1. What does identity have to do with security? As long as someone is screened, who cares who they are?
2. What happened to the blog post about the public comment period for nude body scanners?
Why do we need ID at all to fly? As long as passengers are properly screened, who cares who is on a flight? They wouldn't have any dangerous items on them if they are properly screened. The person checking ID's at the checkpoint isn't checking against the no fly list since that is done when the ticket is bought. The ID check could be eliminated which would allow that person to help screen passengers or just eliminate the position to save money.
Also, I have witnessed ID's being checked at the boarding gate. The TSA wasn't randomly screening baggage, they were just checking ID's. What is the point of that? It just seems like a waste of resources.
Okay, TSA. You have had more than enough time and more than enough prodding to create a blog entry about the public comment process on AIT. Where is it? Are you trying to circumvent the intent of the court order by refusing to notify the public about it even through a means as simple and as reasonable as a blog entry?
Showing ID to TSA does nothing to improve security. Waste of time and effort so typical of government stoggies.
What I need to know is can you pack a lunch and bring it on the plane. I haven't traveled on a plane for quite some time. Someone told me you can pack a lunch of a sandwich,chips,and a 5 oz of water. Can you help me with with question. My husband and I are traveling come Sunday.
I was told two forms of ID? License and boarding pass information?
EVERYONE HERE has lost their mind who says they do not need to check ID. ANYONE can print out (if they have your password for airline website) or steal your boarding pass (when you drop it etc) and then have a free trip! Apparently no one thinks of that. HUH?
Anonymous said...
"ANYONE can print out (if they have your password for airline website) or steal your boarding pass (when you drop it etc) and then have a free trip! Apparently no one thinks of that. HUH?"
Actually, I HAVE given that thought and, well, it has NOTHING to do with preventing a terrorist attack on aviation. If the AIRLINES wish to use ID to prevemt one passenger from stealing another's boarding pass, that's one thing. But when it's the government doing it for no good reason (even TSORon has said the TSA wants to keep dangerous items off of planes, not people), then it stomps all over our right to travel freely within our own borders, which is a basic human right, BTW, and isn't merely a Constitutional issue.
"EVERYONE HERE has lost their mind who says they do not need to check ID. ANYONE can print out (if they have your password for airline website) or steal your boarding pass (when you drop it etc) and then have a free trip! Apparently no one thinks of that. HUH?"
Neither of those situations has anything to do with air travel security, or is any concern of TSA's.
Anonymous said...
EVERYONE HERE has lost their mind who says they do not need to check ID. ANYONE can print out (if they have your password for airline website) or steal your boarding pass (when you drop it etc) and then have a free trip! Apparently no one thinks of that. HUH?
This wouldn't be a TSA issue though. The TSA's mission is keep harmful items off of a plane so it can't be destroyed or crashed into a building. The issues you are describing are for law enforcement to deal with.
I could care less if a thief, drug dealer, or even a terrorist is next to me on a plane. As long as they have been screened properly and have no bombs on them, who cares who is on the plane. The TSA is not law enforcement, although they like to brag when they find things that aren't a threat to the plane such as pot.
Anonymous said...
"What I need to know is can you pack a lunch and bring it on the plane. I haven't traveled on a plane for quite some time. Someone told me you can pack a lunch of a sandwich,chips,and a 5 oz of water. Can you help me with with question. My husband and I are traveling come Sunday."
Yes you may bring food with you. However, any liquids must be 3.4oz or less to go through the security check point. So get drinks once you pass through security not before. for more info go to www.tsa.gov
Bob, what happens if we have an ID that's acceptable according to the TSA's SOP, but the clerk checking the IDs is so lazy that during the training he didn't pay attention to the list of IDs. If we report a clerk like that, will he be fired? It does seem that if a clerk's only job is to check IDs, and he's too lazy to pay attention to which IDs are acceptable, any salary that is paid to him is wasted.
Why does an expiration date on ID matter since for TSA purposes the expiration date has no meaning. Second since ID has bearing on security why it's TSA squandering our tax dollars on this useless exercise.
I have a suggestion for a future Tuesday post...make sure explain the "enhanced patdown" procedure that American families may be subject to in private screening rooms. Stop wasting taxpayer money with these silly posts that do not address any "real" taxpayer concern. If you feel the need to repeat messages over and over, start with the TSA staff.
Yes, I never understood this thing with asking for an ID. That serves no purpose, and has nothing to do with the mission of TSA. If you want to check out a boarding pass, then do that, but an ID?! Not necessary and pointless.
And stop tossing confiscated bottles of water into large garbage containers in the middle of the passenger checkpoint area. Geez, it is all explosive material, isn't it?
My father was an executive at a major airline and told me in the 90's they were lobbying the federal government to require ID check. This predated 9/11 and the horrible accident off Long Island. The reason for this was to prevent frequent flyer account fraud and ticket resale. All the airlines wanted it but none wanted to be the first out of fear of losing customers. The federal government had little interest at the time in enforcing this. As pointed out above it was constitutionally questionable to implement. There was nothing stopping the airline from requiring this at boarding so why should the government step in? After the accident off Long Island the government reluctantly required it out of security concerns for an accident that probably was not terrorism related. The airlines had to enforce this when the boarding pass was printed, either at the ticket counter or the gate. There were no self serve kiosks then. After 9/11 the government made the screeners do it and banned non ticketed/non employees from the sterile side of the airport. I doubt this will ever change and can accept an ID check as part of TSA Pre Check, an optional program. Let's not kid ourselves though that 99.999% of what keeps this in place is inertia and security as an excuse by the airlines to charge change fees. The constitutional question is why technically it is possible to fly without ID as pointed out in this post. Like say a friend might be able to fly on my miles and be able to "verify" my identity.
More importantly: when will I be able to fly with toothpaste and shampoo, plus my favorite beverage for a snack?
Still waiting for Bobby to make a public comment on the San Francisco TSA personnel who (in violation of TSA policy) denied a man his medically necessary liquids, after deciding that they knew the man's medical needs better than his own doctor.
Come on, Bobby. It's in the news. The questions are simple: why do TSA employees feel qualified to override official agency policy and the medical opinions of licensed medical professionals? What medical training does the TSA provide that would make its personnel feel qualified to make such medical determinations?
Or maybe the TSA's PR team just prefers to ignore issues where it's obvious that the TSA can't blame the victim of its misconduct? Look the other way, and maybe it will go away?
Submitted at approximately 3:25 central time on 11 April 2013.
Why can't travelers just do what they are told? If you need to present an ID, so be it. If you don't you slow down the line.
Stop griping about your rights. Your rights don't matter when you slow down the line. Get real.
What do recommend when the TSA's document checker is unaware of all fifty states in the union and rejects your ID?
So what, exactly, does a picture ID protect an airplane from?
So, the averange rain its around 2.5 meters per year... So, can I fly now?
Anonymous said...
"What do recommend when the TSA's document checker is unaware of all fifty states in the union and rejects your ID?"
I always show my passport or lately my Global Entry card. In the early days of TSA I had a document checker look at my DL and told me it was fake (if I said where post gets sent to delete-o-meter). My state expires the DL on your 65th birthday and I was in my mid 30's at the time. Document checker insisted it was fake because it expires in the mid 2030's. I decided afterward I'd rather use my passport instead of get attitude back from TSA and they don't need to know where I live either. Not that they'd remember but given what is always in the news with TSA I decided it is just better this way. Then again I have that option, not everyone does as a passport or TSA Pre Check/Global Entry are quite expensive.
If TSA had an Airline, then maybe they could say: "You Fly Without an ID". In fact TSA can only tell you what you need to get through security.
Check with the airline and not with Bob.
Anonymous said...
"If TSA had an Airline, then maybe they could say: "You Fly Without an ID". In fact TSA can only tell you what you need to get through security.
"Check with the airline and not with Bob."
Why? The ID requirement is a government requirement, not an airline one, which is what makes it Constitutionally questionable. Granted, the airlines LIKE this requirement, but it's still the government requiring it, even when TSO's such as TSORon agree that identity doesn't matter.
I'm curious why a Firearms Owner Identication (FOID) card issued by the IL State police is not an acceptable photo ID? It is a state ID, with photo, expiration date, and requires a background check to obtain.
Complete bull. When I flew out of my home airport they didn't question my ID. When I flew out of a major airline hub in the rocky mountains the TSO challenged my ID since in the ID I did not have glasses on but I was where glasses when I flew. They where rimless and recent Rx. Then she "guessed" that I could be let through and that it was me and that I could go through to the metal detector "this time."
It's 80 inches by the way... the average rainfall in the Amazon basin.
the interstate commerce clause.
My daughter lost her wallet the day before a flight from JFK to Seattle -- today, right now. I found this weblog post and read it to her, and she followed the instructions here. She's now at JFK going through hell, talking to TSA agents who seem to have never heard about this official policy, who keep sending her to new places where she has to explain all over again. She has no wallet, no ID, no credit cards, nothing, and is likely now to miss her flight. It's 7 am on a Sunday morning and there's nobody to call and no way to get any support. So while this website is a good idea, in practical terms, it helps not one whit. Who knows when this comment will even be read and/or approved?
Mrs. Green,
I'm sorry she is having trouble. Please send more details to email@example.com and I'll try to find out what the problem was.
Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team
Hi Bob,
I have a ticket to fly home from New Jersey to California next thursday, but have lost my wallet and passport. I can not replace my California Driver's license from out of state, and also can not schedule an appointment to replace my passport in New York without a ticket for international travel within the next seven days. (let alone the problems of replacing my passport without photo ID). Knowing ahead of time that I will not have a photo ID to bring to the airport, or most other wallet items like credit cards. What should I bring to security so that I will be cleared? I have bank issued checks with my name on it, some old tax files, other third part documents with my name, my passport number, drivers license number, copy of my birth certificate and social security number but nothing with both a photo and a name outside of facebook. Can you please be specific as to what the screening process will be, and whether or not I will be able to fly? How much time to I need to allocate for extra screening?
Thank you,
Rob, I would suggest you contact the TSA Customer Support Manager at EWR by using the Talk to TSA page. Your comment and contact information will go directly to them.
Bob Burns
TSA Blog Team
Hi Bob,
I am traveling to New York at the end of Feb, and just realized that my CA driver's license/ID is about to expire a week before my trip. If I can't get my replacement in time, will I be able to use my expired Driver's License/ID to get through security?
Jon Breen asked - "I am traveling to New York at the end of Feb, and just realized that my CA driver's license/ID is about to expire a week before my trip. If I can't get my replacement in time, will I be able to use my expired Driver's License/ID to get through security?
Take the expired ID with you Jon, and if there is some problem with verifying the ID for clearing into the checkpoint, there is a process in place to help you get through. You can also contact the the airport directly through the Talk To TSA page here:
After communicating directly with them, they should be able to give you the best advice on how to proceed at that specific location.
TSA Blog Team
I have almost the same situation as the person before, the issue is that ALL my IDs expire one week before my flight on 02.12.2014. This is due to me having a EAD document whose renewal is still in process and should be here no later than the end of Feb. The only doc I have is a Mexican Passport with no Visa. I'm afraid that I won't be able to fly since this is a job requirement for certification and of course I don't want to miss it.
Thanks for your help in advance.
I'm just wondering... this has never happened to me Knock on wood... But I wonder if we took a picture of the ID on our phone if that will work.. I'm going to ask on Monday.
TSA actually neglected to provide my drivers license back to me when traveling out of state a few weeks ago. On my return flight, I was allowed to fly by showing my car insurance ID and/or car registration, which was a great relief to me.
Two weeks later, I received my drivers license in the mail, which was returned to me by TSA!
I am travelling to California after 3 days but I don't have any id as I have aaplied for shengen visa and my passport are with them. My question is can I fly by showing them my passport photocopy, or my insurance details ??
My Georgia USA DL will not expire until 2017, but it does not meet the new TSA ID requirements (Federal Real ID) for acceptable government ID, as I understand them.
According to Georgia, I cannot get a new ID until 180 days prior to the old one expiring, unless it is lost or stolen. That will be in 2017.
Will I be allowed to fly for the 3+ yrs where the Georgia DL and TSA requirements do not concur?
Couple of things:
1) About two thirds of the way down the replies to this post I saw a customer post an issue happening now and a fairly prompt reply from the TSA Blog Team - I was impressed that they engaged directly. I'm not sure I've seen that level of customer service from other agencies before.
2) I'm glad they are trying to address a worst case scenario for travelers like loosing your wallet. I'm a little surprised about the fleet of comments complaining about having to show ID in the first place. It's not any different from getting in your car and driving to another state - you still need your license. This is the same type of argument that tends to back up the line at the airport every other time I go through it.
Dear tsa, I have just realized that I have lost my picture drivers license while visiting my mother in Texas. I only brought with me my license, which I lost and my non picture debit card. I fly out tomorrow and willing to provide any information to tsa agents but might not be able to get a copy of a picture I'd. Please help. I need to get back to work tomorrow. Your prompt reply is much appreciated.
March 20 commenter (TSAnonymous?) - an American is not required an ID to be a passenger in any vehicle...except a commercial airplane, only according to the TSA.
Regarding the quickness of West's reply, it took two days, which may be understandable, but he ignored many other comments.
Also, ironically, West, a government employee, told the American citizen, "Take the expired ID with you Jon, and if there is some problem with verifying the ID for clearing into the checkpoint, there is a process in place to help you get through."
This is NOT what occurred when Sherry Wright went to the airport with an expired ID. It appears that if one is a disabled woman minority, any attempt to satisfy a screener on a power trip is futile.
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My daughter turned 18 and is a senior in high school. We are so busy with prepping for college we haven't gotten her a Govt ID yet. On top of that we recently moved and I cant find her passport or birth cert to use as a substitute. She is flying by herself in a week (domestic). Will TSA allow her on the plane and the same for the return flight? She has a student ID.
My son is 18 and a Senior in High School here in NY (leaving out of JFK)and we will be traveling to Fort Lauderdale later this month to celebrate my daughter's 30th birthday. He has his High School photo ID, birth certificate but lost his social security card. What else do I need to provide so that we can make our flight to and from. Thanks
My son and I will be traveling later this month form JFK to Ft. Lauderdale. He is 18 and a senior in High School and has his school photo ID as well as his birth certificate. He lost his social security card and I am working to get it replaced. What else do I need to bring with us so that he can board the plane in NY and get back to NY when we leave Ft. Lauderdale. Thanks
I have a 13 year old that looks older than his age - he'll be traveling to a national junior leadership training in June. Do I need to take any documentation to get him thru TSA?
Anon sez - "My daughter turned 18 and is a senior in high school. We are so busy with prepping for college we haven't gotten her a Govt ID yet. On top of that we recently moved and I cant find her passport or birth cert to use as a substitute. She is flying by herself in a week (domestic). Will TSA allow her on the plane and the same for the return flight? She has a student ID."
I hope I am not too late responding, I missed this question before! Have her bring the High School ID with her, and if there are questions, there is a process that we can use in order to process her through. It will take an additional 10 minutes or so to complete, so please make sure she is there a bit earlier than usual.
Anon sez - "My son and I will be traveling later this month form JFK to Ft. Lauderdale. He is 18 and a senior in High School and has his school photo ID as well as his birth certificate. He lost his social security card and I am working to get it replaced. What else do I need to bring with us so that he can board the plane in NY and get back to NY when we leave Ft. Lauderdale. Thanks"
Hiya Anon, sorry to be a bit late on responding to this one as well. Bring the birth certificate and school ID, and if there are any questions, there is a process we can use to get him through - again, it takes about 10 minutes or so to complete, so please make sure you are there a bit earlier than usual. Thanks!
Anon also sez - "I have a 13 year old that looks older than his age - he'll be traveling to a national junior leadership training in June. Do I need to take any documentation to get him thru TSA?"
13 year olds are minors, and as such, no ID is required for them. I hope you guys all have fantastic trips!
TSA Blog Team
While you need a driver's license to get into a car and drive to another state, you do not need a driver's license or any other ID to be a passenger in a car crossing state lines.
I continue to wait for some justification for active duty military being included in pre-check, but not retired military or holders of current DoD or LE background investigations. military retirees have at least 20 years documented service to this Nation, pretty much proving their lack of risk. both DoD and LE background investigations should reveal any risk factors. active duty military do not, necessarily, have a background check or any significant length of service. neither citizenship nor a background investigation is required to enlist in the military, in fact there are likely illegal immigrants serving. if it is really about safety, then why are potentially unscreened non-citizens allowed through? sounds like it is just pandering to an admirable group to get PR, not adjusting the rules to ease screening on those who present a lower likelihood of threat.
Let me be clear: pre-911 screening should be the norm. it is all that is required, now that cockpit doors have been reinforced and locked, and flight crews and passengers know that the rules have changed and passivity=death. however, if we are going to continue this massive waste of tax dollars on security theatre, at least have _some_ of the rules make sense. in addition, I will reiterate several of the correct comments from others: 1) the Constitution and substantial court precedent make it clear that Americans are only required to show ID to a LEO conducting a criminal investigation. there is no authority in the Constitution or in public law for TSA or any non-LEO agency to require (or even request) ID pursuant to a purely administrative search (which definition is the only thing that makes TSA searches Constitutional). 2) the federal government does not need to know when, where, or whether a legal resident travels domestically, and is afforded no authority to know, except in performing a criminal investigation. it should stop now.
This entire piece is about there being NO REQUIREMENT to have a government-issued photo ID to fly on American commercial flights. Yet the comments posted here strongly suggest that TSA agents across the country have NO knowledge of this.
But more to the point, why would ANY ID be needed at ANY TIME. The supposed point of all this nonsense to to ensure that a passenger is not a threat on the flight, specifically that they are not bringing a weapon aboard (like a bottle of water or a disabled hand grenade or the empty cylinder of a revolver.
The screening that you are subjected to at the checkpoint does NOT rely on your identify--it is a physical screening involving X-ray machines, body scanners, the dismantlement of wheelchairs and the removal and searching of prosthetic devices like artificial arms and legs, colostomy bags and other dangerous weapons, and frisking by TSA agents.
Eliminating the identify card nonsense would streamline the process quite a bit at airports.
I wouldn't care if Osama bin Laden had shown up a an aiport without an ID, he should have been permitted to get on a plane if he passed through the physical screening devices without alarm.
The purpose of that screening is to render defenseless everyone on the plane Looking at IDs in order to get on a plane achieves nothing.
My 24 yr old son recently got a new passport. He was issued a passport at age 15 which expired when he was 20. His old passport had his first name, middle initial and last name. On his new passport he was told he needed to use his full middle name. The problem is that we are traveling internationally within the month, and it was a very large group booked through AAA months ago. At the time of booking, i gave our agent the name on his expired passport (with middle initial only). Will this be a problem at security since his documents arent consistent with the middle initial/name?? When i called the agent to let her know the name was different, she poohpoohed it and said it wont be a problem, but i have my doubts.
If you think that answer makes any kind of sense, you need to go read the Constitution again.
hello, i am 17 and am traveling from the US to England, i was wondering if for that trip if i need both a government issued id and a passport or just a passport?
I'm in the US illegally and have no identification. Also, I am really new here and have no paper trail. How is it possible TSA would let me fly from say, a border state to anyplace I want? Gracias, in advance.
We need to worry more about dangerous PEOPLE, not dangerous items. My pocketknife is not dangerous to other passengers or the aircraft, but the 9-11 hijackers' box cutters were very dangerous.
That's the point of the ID check, but "good" fake IDs are pretty easy for criminals and terrorists to come by.
The emphasis has to be keeping them out of the country,
No fly list checked when ticket is bought? A terrorist or criminal is going to use his/her real name when they buy a ticket?
Apparently illegals are allowed to fly by simply showing a "Notice to Appear" form. Without a photo there is no way to connect between a specific person and the form which lacks security features anyway and can be duplicated or faked... Such incompetence...
Your passport is a government issued ID.
Hello Bob, I'm 14 and am staying at an academic summer camp in Lancaster, PA. I need to fly back home to LA on Friday, but I've lost my wallet, which had the only picture ID on me. I have to go through Harrisburg Airport. What should I do?
Anon sez - "Hello Bob, I'm 14 and am staying at an academic summer camp in Lancaster, PA. I need to fly back home to LA on Friday, but I've lost my wallet, which had the only picture ID on me. I have to go through Harrisburg Airport. What should I do?"
Hello Anon, if there are any questions about you flying, there is a process that can be used to verify who you are, it normally takes about 10 minutes or so. At your age, will you be flying on your own or will the airline be taking you under their wing (HA!) as a designated "unaccompanied minor"? If you are flying as a designated UAM, that will take care of most of the problems you might have finding the right checkpoint area and gate locations. Considering that you are under the age of 18, there should be very little challenge for you getting into the checkpoint and getting through. I hope you learned some interesting things at camp, and hopefully we will see you soon. Take care.
TSA Blog Team
My 18 year old son has his DMV issued temporary California state Id. He is waiting for the permanent photo ID to arrive. He also has a High School ID. Will he be able to fly with this information?
Hello, my fiancé had his wallet lost/stolen last night while visiting Utah. We are flying very early tomorrow to California (we are mid trip and actually live in NYC). He filed a police report and a has a photo copy of his ID. All of his credit/debit cards, insurance card, and ID were in the wallet so he doesn't have anything but this photo copy. When we get to Cali we can have another form of ID fedexed to us but will he have a huge issue when trying to fly out of Utah?
Hello bob , my sister is 17 and is traveling home with her baby which is 3 months , her id expired last november can she still get through tsa ?
supposed to fly from nyc area to houston on/around 8/25/14 until 9/2/14 for work purposes. through my fault (exp/rev driver's lic.) may not have state issued ID in time. I do have a picture ID through work and also picture ID through a Fire District(taxpayer funded. Thank you for any info.
Thank you so much for the reply to this question,. I also have a recently graduated 18-year old and just realized we will need ID for her.She does not yet have a driver's license but does have her old high school ID. It's complicated as she was adopted and is a different race. We will be traveling with two of my other children as well. Do you think well be okay or do I need to scramble to try to get her a learners permit before we go?
My rights always matter in the United States.
>> who cares WHO you are?
Airlines care: they don't like ticket scalping / trading, etc. Tickets are supposedly issued after no fly lists, etc, so the TSA attempts to make sure you've got valid tickets.
>> gate ID check
Gate I.D. checks are for international travel, this article is about domestic travel.
The implied powers clause article one section 8 To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof."
Hello.. I am planning to travel from Fort Lauderdale to New Orleans on Monday and my only form of I.D. Is an expired U.S. Passport (expired in June). I planned on going to get an ID card this weekend, but was unaware the DMV offices in my county are closed on weekends. Will I be allowed to board with an expired passport as identification since I am traveling domestically? Thanks!
If a 17 year wants to travel within Canada for example from Manitoba to Alberta does he need Photo I.D ?
"Why can't travelers just do what they are told? If you need to present an ID, so be it. If you don't you slow down the line.
Stop griping about your rights. Your rights don't matter when you slow down the line. Get real."
Thank you!
I use to be tsa pre clear through my frequent flyer program, and after i changed my frequent flyer account to reflect my married name, my ticket does not print out tsa precheck and i have to use the standard security line everytime (although the preclear info is listed in my frequent flyer account) and the airline can't help, says its TSA.
Totall agree with the previous poster. Why make such a big deal over something that we ultimately have little to no control over?
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I.d. provides a useful tool for law enforcement in tracking people who are under investigation and/or who are trying to make a speedy getaway from prosecution. will a tsa i.d check stop someone from detonating a bomb on a plane. No. but let me ask this. Do you people who furiously protest a simple i.d check have a reason why you need to hide? If so...you can always drive your own vehicle or rent a car; oh w8 they require i.d for that also. why aren't you complaining about that?
For everyone saying "why does it matter who you are?!" it's for the fact that if the plane goes down....they need to be able to identify who you are. it's the same reason you're supposed to sit in your assigned seat. Just throwin' it out there.
Hey. I'm bout to travel to San Diego soon and won't have a non expired state I'd. I have an I'd that expired In 2013 and a school id (currently a student) am 21. What should I do?
I was told at Atlanta airport that my US Passport Card was not valid ID for travel. Can you please make sure you have educated your staff.
I flew in September with an valid, but expired, CA driver's license. I asked if this was an authentic CA license and they said yes. I ask if it proves that I am who I say I am, they said yes. Yet they still searched me.
Their blog and website says they need to ask me for information to verify my identity...I understand, that's the point. Why was I patted down and searched? I was given verbal affirmation that my identity was confirmed; that I was who my ID indicated.
Why is this allowed?
Anonymous said...
I was told at Atlanta airport that my US Passport Card was not valid ID for travel. Can you please make sure you have educated your staff.
Read the back of the US passport card and you will see that it says that is not acceptable to fly.
Can I fly with my learner'a permit when I'm 16?


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Cars That Could Have Been Great, But Missed
I think he mentioned his dad wanted something softer, as he was getting older. Not many soft BMWs, other than a loaded 7er, and that can be costly.
I know I would absolutely hate my E55 if I was 80 years old, ride is too harsh.
For brand loyalty, some cars tend to feel the same over the years, and some people simply like a brand and its heritage. That's how it is for me anyway.
Brand loyalty is pretty much an outdated concept for 95% of american consumers. They shop price, rebates, style. We as a people aren't very loyal to other aspects of our lives (employer, town, even our mates sometimes) so brand loyalty for cars doesn't make much sense in a highly mobile society IMO.
Besides, you could argue that cars are now much closer in style and reliability than they've ever been in history.
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It was a comfort issue. After Dad had his hips replaced, the BMW caused him discomfort when he drove it. That's why he switched over to the big Chryslers - he was comforable in them. The BMW sat in his garage mostly unused for a long time. Finally he decided to sell it outright - I think he got $3K for it.
The Audi 5000 could arguably be the poster child for '80s cars that could have been great, but missed. It had the makings of a great car. Ground-breaking style and aerodynamics, and excellent driving dynamics made this a favorite for many, until the bogus unintended acceleration episode sunk this model, and almost ended sales of the entire brand in the U.S.
Despite its strong attributes, though, the 5000 (and its refreshed and renamed successors, the 100 and 200), had significant counterbalacing negatives. Chief among these were that they were very high maintenance cars.
ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 2,147My boss at the time bought a 5000 around '85 and it is exactly as you say. It was a real maintenance nightmare although how much of that was the dealer I dunno. After that he bought a BMW 635, so he was a glutton for punishment.
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My 1985 Consumer Guide tested an Audi 5000, and in general they liked it. They scored it 76 out of a possible 100 points. 20 different categories, each ranging from 1-5 points. It scored 76 overall, which was at the high end in that book. A Mercedes 300D scored 77, as did a Volvo GL sedan. Highest scorers were a Toyota Camry and Cressida, both at 78.
FWIW, it would be impossible for a car to score a perfect 100, because the categories are so varying. For instance, for a car to score a 5 in acceleration, it would probably score a 1 or 2 in fuel economy.
The Audi 5000 got mainly 4's and 5's, got rated 2 for drivability and fuel economy. It was hard to start in cold weather, and got fairly bad fuel economy. It was rated a 3 for heating/ventilation, and 3 for overall value.
It got high marks for quality, scoring a 5 for body, 5 for interior, and 4 for paint/exterior. Alas, high initial quality doesn't always make for a good, reliable, long-lasting car.
...the Honda Civic clearly stand out as a miss. Unlike the Detroit 3 of the '80s, '90s and '00s, though, Honda recently acknowldged what the critics have said about its bread and butter model, and have announced they will move up its mid-cycle refresh.
With the soon-to-be-introduced next generation CRV and Accord, we'll see whether the Civic is an aberration, or if Honda is in a funk.
bumba Posts: 1Hello everyone,
We are a group of MBA students from the Boston University. Our class project requires us to pick a failed product and revitalize it through design and innovation. We have picked Delorean DMC-12 as our product. In order to gather information for our project. We have designed the following survey to understand your perception about the Delorean vehicle. The survey should take about 5 - 10 minutes to complete.
Q1 – Do you know the DeLorean DMC-12?
Q2 – Based on your understanding of the DMC-12, what are the three biggest issues from the original vehicle design?
Q3 – If the DMC-12 is to be redesigned for an all new 2012 model, what are the three most important design elements that should be retained from the original vehicle design?
Q4 – What are the three top 3 features to be added to the new design to improve your user experience?
Q5 – To position DeLorean as an elite sports car brand, how much would you pay for an all new DMC-12?
Q6 – How should the new DeLorean company keep track of customer satisfaction?
Q7 – What should the new DeLorean company to improve the service and user experience of DMC-12?
Q8 – Do you have any other recommendations to the new vehicle or the company?
We value your responses and thank you for the support of our project!
oldburbnewcx9 Posts: 531. Yes, but I have seen ony one.
2. Underpowered in the US, Fingerprints on the stainless steel, too expensive for the delivered product.
3. Gull wing doors, distinctive design, 2 seats only
4. Move power, needs an exclusivity factor and of course a flus capacitor and fusion drive.
5. Over 100K which is still exclusive.
6. On a personal basis. NO internet. At this price level personal contact is the only way.
7. Unknown.
8. Power and looks are required for an exotic car.
Recent posts in "A Spotted An..." discussion mentioned the Austin America. This is a car that was very advanced in configuration and design for its day. It was, essentially, a senior Mini. Unfortunately, it was plagued by quality problems, so it never came close to reaching its sales potential in the U.S. market.
For those of you who may not remember or know, the Strada was a hatchback that competed with the VW Rabbit, the Mopar Omni/Horizon twins, the Chevette, and the various subcompact Japanese offerings of that body style. The Strada was arguably Fiat's last best hope of competing in the small hatchback segment, but it failed due to - surprise! - quality issues. The styling was also a bit odd, which didn't help, and the 1.5L engine provided rather weak performance, even by the modest standards of the day. What it had going for it was a relatively roomy interior, good fuel economy and a comfortable ride. Those attributes weren't enough to win over American drivers, though, so the Strada made only a brief appearance on our shores, from the late '70s-early '80s.
Does anyone here remember the Strada?
I remember the Strada, although not when new. It was a US market Ritmo. Weird styling (the round lights are offputting to me, somehow), and I have to imagine quality control was laughable. I bet parts supply and service availability were also suspect. They have to be fantastically rare today - I know I have seen somewhere local, I want to say Portland, but maybe it was online.
I have a 1981 Consumer Guide, where they raved about the Strada. Maybe nice until the end of warranty.
The Ritmo/Strada has some distinctions I'm told.
First off they made about (roughly) 1.8 million of them, so not too shabby...
Also it may have been the first, or one of the first cars to be built almost entirely by robots!
"Ritmo" means "rhythm"......"I got ritmo, I got tow chains, I got hand tools who could ask for anything morrreeeee...."
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You'd think that Mopar would've gotten the successor to the Neon right, but no. The Caliber got panned in every test I read. The gas mileage was disappointing for its class, even though the automatic was a CVT.
I rented a Caliber in Idaho and drove it almost 1,000 miles, much of it on mountain roads, and I thought it was okay. I liked the styling, it had good room, and was as comfortable as anything in its class. Performance was competitive, and I didn't discover any notable negatives. Well, okay, the CVT was a little odd, but that didn't make it bad. Would I have bought one? Probably not, because I wouldn't have wanted to take the chance that all those reviews were wrong. The fact that there was no second generation Caliber suggests that mine was a minority experience.
Has anyone here owned a Caliber or know of someone who has, and, if so, what was the experience?
The Calilber got dropped, but aren't the Jeep Compass and Patriot on the same platform, and aren't they still around? I think my biggest issue with the Caliber was that it seemed sort of blurred the line between hatchback/wagon and SUV, but it wasn't enough of either to be all that great at anything.
My only experience with them was driving one at a test drive event at one of the Carlisle Mopar shows a few years back. Didn't really do much for me, but I'm not really the target market of these things.
I like the Patriot, though. They added just enough length to it to, IMO at least, make it a nice, roomy vehicle given its size. The Compass makes me think too much of a Gremlin though, although the recent facelift at least makes it not as brutal to look at.
But, as such, I view the Caliber as more of a competitor to something like the PT Cruiser or Chevy HHR, or to a lesser degree the Matrix/Vibe or Focus wagon. And, not really a direct competitor to more mainstream sedan-type compacts like the Corolla, Civic, Neon, etc.
According to Wikipedia, even vehicles like the Dodge Journey, Avenger, Chrysler 200, and Mistubishi Lancer and Outlander are also related. So apparently, the basic platform is viable, but the Caliber version just ran its course.
I think when the Journey came out, it stole most of the Caliber's thunder, and probably served better as a crossover SUV than the Caliber did.
uplanderguy Kent, OHPosts: 7,494Has anyone here owned a Caliber or know of someone who has, and, if so, what was the experience?
I don't, but I remember seeing a Caliber for the first time at the Cleveland Auto Show some years back. I told a friend that I thought it would be a big hit--utility, price, and looks. I was dead-wrong.
I saw a new one a couple years back or so at a dealer in Erie, PA, that was a base model with 5-speed. It was only $13K on the windshield. I think one could hardly go wrong with one at that price. That's the type vehicle I look for, for me...cheap, economical, and practical.