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Matt Smith's acting against himself as good and evil alone puts this easily in the top 5 favorites of New Who for me. The story line itself may not be the greatest, but just seeing Doctor and Cyber Doctor play chess is worth it to me.
So random sleep deprived thought: I think they made it seem with the whole Missy thing saying she chose well with Clara that she is the woman from the shop. But a small part of me for some reason played with the idea, what if somehow Missy is the TARDIS. I mean the TARDIS was already pulled out and put in a body once with Idris, not hard to believe that someone else could do it, and what if somehow she gets some sort of ability to use something like a transmat on people in their moment of death around the Doctor. Just a not very well thought out idea that I'd throw out there. It'd explain a lot with how she could relocate people, how she could constantly be able to watch the Doctor and Clara, and the way she speaks like the Doctor is her love.
@Scootersfood has 66 Seconds to live... @Andrew_Swallow On top of that I don't think the cylinder look is the default look, but more of a storage shape for the Time Lords. After all the outer dimension is to disguise the inner dimension and as the Doctor said if the TARDIS was ever to actually land on earth it'd crack the surface so I'd imagine if there is a "default" or original shape then it is probably very very very large, not the cylinder's we saw in the scene with Clara and the First.
I find most people that call it "Clara Who" are fans that started with Matt Smith's Doctor and are just upset his era is over. I mean they weren't saying "Amy Who" during things like Amy's Choice and Girl Who Waited. I actually prefer it when the companion is more active, if it's just someone that is there to be saved like Rose was at first then what is even the point of having a companion (or lets not forget they were originally called Assistants which job description is to assist!) Realistically I'd like to see a companion that gets even more in depth and involved with the assisting part, especially with the personality of the current Doctor. I still think someone like Osgood would be brilliant for the Doctor. A bit like Jack from the first series where he understands more than the average person. I like it when the Doctor gives the assistant the screwdriver and they know what to do, because it makes sense that after traveling alongside him for so long they pick it up. Like when Martha had to use it in the Lazarus Experiment episode. To me that's just good character development and storytelling, the show would be quite boring if it's just someone there to get captured or get in trouble and have the Doctor bail them out.
I do agree that The Long Song easily has the greatest emotional impact of all the lyrical songs. I'm not a huge fan of Abigal's song though, I mean she's a great singer just not in my top 5. Same with the Ood's song, I mean both were great just didn't blow me away. I'd probably put Love Don't Roam second and keep Foxes 3rd because I love the jazz version of that song. Song for 10 I also quite enjoy because it went along with choosing the Doctor's costume which is always a fun moment.
Wonder if someone can throw up a poll on whether people think the Doctor actually saved everyone, or if that was just a cover. I'm personally thinking the Doctor did do that as just a cover to hide the fact that he only saved Clara and Perkins I think was his name.
@Polyphase Agreed. I think the whole Clara thing was more a boiling point, since he regenerated Clara has been pulling further away and getting more annoyed with each episode and this was just a breaking point. It was more that she was looking for a reason to get upset rather than this actually being something that upset her. That's why during the conversation with Danny he said "It happened didn't it?" suggesting that they had previously discussed how she's unhappy with how things have been with the Doctor lately.
@Exalos I had a couple of the same concerns at first but after thinking more about it I found some answers. First you're right that without the moon there'd be extra effects but either way the moon was going to be gone. It was either blow it up with nuclear weapons, or it'd crack open and a creature that could or could not of attacked the planet. That was the choice, so either way the effects of a missing moon would of hit them so that wasn't really a factor in the decision, it was more a decision of whether to trust the new born creature or not. As for it laying an egg right away, that's not that surprising. There's been weirder stuff in science fiction and it's not completely out there to imagine that part of this creatures life cycle is to lay an egg upon birth. As for the decision to leave by Clara, that one had me for awhile. As I agreed this didn't seem like that big of a deal and the Doctor seemed more right than Clara in his argument. However it's the conversation with Danny after that clued me in, he said "Did it happen?" or "Did it finally happen?" something along those lines. Which leads me to believe this was not a sudden thing, that ever since his regeneration I think Clara has been pulling away and from the context it sounds like Clara and Danny had discussed the possibility of her leaving before. So this might of been the final tipping point despite her mostly being wrong on the issue.
@Romanadvoratrelundar Never really paid attention to how it works, but does the BARB ratings factor in people that DVR it too? I know lots of people that sometimes miss it due to something like work and end up having to record it and watch it later.
Maybe I'm missing something here, but I thought the time lock was only on the period during the Time War? And even that was shown to be breakable in Day of the Doctor so it doesn't seam too unreasonable to believe that somehow they were able to break though to the Doctor's past given the situation.
"I have been alive a very long time, and I have yet to meet a ghost or a god that didn't turn out to be… I don't know, sentient gas? Or technology masquerading as magic? This is no demon. Or ghost. Or curse. And I will show you it." - What about Satan Pit? I'm pretty sure they didn't explain him to be sentient gas or technology masquerading as magic.
Perhaps it was one of the Silence, after all, they seem to be masters of hiding.
@social_crime @Mythel452 Pretty much, if anything it was more of a reassurance. I mean clearly if he was outside crying because he didn't want to be a soldier he already had those views. The speech Clara gave him was more just comforting him and saying it's okay to feel the way he does. I wouldn't label that as creating him because I'm sure plenty of people reassured him throughout his life. I saw that scene as nothing more than just someone trying to make a crying boy (that happened to be the Doctor) feel better.
I really want a nerdy sciencey type companion. Osgood from UNIT is pretty much exactly the person I'd want with this kind of Doctor and I think it'd work out very well. Someone who instead of walking into the TARDIS and being startled and bewildered and saying "It's bigger on the inside?!" Have someone walk in and say something like, "Ohhh WOW amazing! What, is it some sort of secondary dimension disguised in a blue box?" And the Doctor himself be a bit baffled having expecting the usual bigger on the inside comment.
Man I started off on the other side of the fence with this episode mostly because I had a delusional hope that Tom Riley being cast as Leo Da Vinci would of been pretty awesome not as a cross over, just a nod to the other show. But seeing him as Robin Hood is pretty amazing so I have a feeling I'm going to love this episode.
Ya know kind of irrelevant to this and somewhat spoilerish(well they are rumors/wondering not really fact) but with the rumors that Jenna might leave at the end of this season and the BBC synopsis's and people thinking something bad may happen to Clara and the whole Missy thing and everything (Wow that sentence got away from me) I'm wondering if Clara will "die" and go to "heaven" with Missy which will cause the confrontation between Missy and The Doctor.
@CooperKing Agreed. Eccleston was serious but kind of goofy. Tennant was fiery with a goofy side. And Smith was mostly goofy with a slight arrogance that made him have some awesome moments. But now Capaldi has went a complete 180, if he is goofy, it's in that awkward sort of way. Like while everyone is screaming flying down the tube into the human in this past episode, the Doctor is going "wwweeee." But mostly he's serious, he's direct, he doesn't get distracted. Walks with a sense of "control" for lack of a better word. Still 2 episodes in, one of my favorite parts about Capaldi's Doctor is how casually he flies the TARDIS. No "HOLD ON" *flings the switch and camera starts shaking.* It's just a nonchalant stride to the console, flips the lever and they are off.
I dunno I still prefer Capaldi myself. While I love Smith and think he did a great job, his Doctor at some points had too many childish moments that were over the top. I really dig how Capaldi is very serious, using people's deaths to his advantage and not giving it a second though. I like how casual he struts around the TARDIS as well as his posture most of the time. Maybe it's just that Capaldi is new and totally different that's making me think that, but I'm just loving it. Easily the most impressed I've been with the first two episodes of a series in a long time.
I'm really liking this change. It's the small things that do it to me, how casually Capaldi flies the TARDIS is one of my favorite parts. I mean the last few Doctors stumble around like the TARDIS is crashing but it makes sense for the younger Doctor. Like the kid who takes his dads car out and drives insanely reckless. I really am liking how age seems to affect him, the chair in the first episode. The way his posture is while walking around the TARDIS and the clean flying. Also something I like is his speech patterns which slightly remind me of Sherlock. Like when he walked onto the ship with Clara for the first time and "introduced" gun girl and guy in charge who may of been her Uncle or something he thought up while bored. Just struck me as a very Sherlock-y thing to say. Overall I thought the episode itself was pretty decent, I liked the Doctor and Clara's dialogue again. Still not the greatest Dalek story, but then again they gotta be running pretty dry on stories to tell about the Daleks.
I am extremely torn on this. On the one hand I really liked Eleventh Hour's story a lot better, I think it flowed a bit better and had a better bad guy/solution imo. Not to mention the whole "Is this world protected?" speech was pretty brilliant. On the other hand Capaldi was amazing. Rewatching it on my DVR I notice so many subtle things that just make me already in love with the 12th Doctor. The way he casually flips the lever on the TARDIS control panel to bring Clara "home" and then does the quick spin and flips the jacket back and puts his hands in his pockets. That moment right there just made go, "Yes sir, he is most definitely the Doctor." And a different one at that. I think I'm going to fully enjoy Capaldi and I hope he stays on for at least the standard 3 series.
Honestly Jenny's outfit while she was "posing" was more surprising to me than the kiss. I mean the kiss made sense, especially with the story. I mean her race has bigger lungs so she shared some air with someone she cared about. It's not like the music turned on "Bow chica-bow-wow" and they started undressing while making out or something, I think there's just way too overly-sensitive people on the subject these days.
@TheIdleIdol Still, at least those Daleks weren't real Daleks. I mean even their own objects wouldn't recognize them as Daleks anymore, they were so watered down by all the spare parts they had to build each other off of so it made sense they were acting a little human in being undercover. The entire parliament of Daleks begging the Doctor to save them is just horrible. I just never understood why they couldn't go down. Nano field won't turn a Dalek into a Dalek, that'd be redundant. Then even if they were insane, not very likely they are going to attack another Dalek seeing as they were surrounded by other Daleks. The entire storyline of the Daleks needing the Doctor to go down because they were afraid was just a disgrace to everything that is Dalek.
@The Finn @Exxilon5 @supermoff Well, as long as they aren't screaming "SAVE US DOCTOR," then it at least won't be as much of a letdown than last series Dalek episode.
I would say it seems like Missy is going to turn out to be the girl from the shop and the person who placed the ad but at the same time I feel like Moffat likes to play those red haring games so there's probably a much grander yet simpler explanation.
I thought it was a good scene, I like when they acknowledge the past. That was something that irked me a teeny tiny bit about Eleventh Hour until the very end where he does the "Is this planet defended?" scene. But I loved all the subtle kicks to the past, one of my favorites was, "Times like this I miss Amy." "Who?" "Nothing!"
Definitely some good parts, I almost couldn't believe when he said, "It's times like this I miss Amy." I had to chuckle. Very well written stuff for the new Doctor, can't wait to see how Capaldi turns out. Only down side is I wasn't a huge fan of Vastra and Jenny in this episode for some reason. Either they've been used too much or their scenes just felt forced, something about it just didn't sit well. The Clara and Doctor scenes were brilliant. And the Doctor pouring a drink for him at the end was just a fantastic sequence. Exactly what I was hoping for with his Doctor, someone who is willing to do what it takes to get the job done, whatever that may be.
@stargazer0118 Very true. I mean even if they use the fact that it's 9's first story that we see, then technically wouldn't Day of the Doctor be on the list somewhere? I mean the War Doctor was a doctor and that was his first story we see post-regeneration! Why doesn't the War Doctor ever get any love on these Doctor lists?!
I agree with her, it's more exciting not knowing. Personally I wish they could somehow not announce even the Doctors leaving until we actually see it, but I realize there is no way to stop those leaks. As to whether she should leave or not, well, can't really judge that for now. I really like her as an actress and companion, but who knows where the story will go! Perhaps it will be time for her to exit.
People accuse him of killing off characters? Who has he even really killed? I agree with him more when he says he doesn't kill nearly enough people. Granted my favorite fiction tends to come from people like Joss Whedon who is known for actually killing people, but still. Every time Moffat "kills" people in Doctor Who, it either doesn't seem to stick (Like Rory Pond for example) or it has some lasting happy ending (Like River Song getting to live in a computer or the Ponds getting to live to old age just separated from the Doctor, not killed.) I mean he killed off Solomon which was the only one I actually count and think it was a really great moment in Doctor Who. Not saying it's Moffat alone either, RTD didn't kill people too often too and if he did, it wasn't really someone important. I realize it's a kids show and showing death to kids is a bad thing these days or something, but we definitely need an modern Who Adric. Someone who actually matters to the show, having a sudden and tragic death. Death in fiction is important because then when there is danger, it actually has some sort of excitement rather than, "Well we know they will get out of this somehow."
Hmm we need a Video Editing-savvy Whovian to string all these together tomorrow when we get the final teaser!! Also nice to see the Psychic paper make an appearance, I feel like 11 only used it like twice. Only times I can think of is Vampires in Venice and Nightmare in Silver. Maybe in Night Terrors, but I can't remember for sure if he did or not.
Too early to tell if this is good for the story or not. It will be sad because I like Clara, but who knows where the story will be after Series 8 so it might be time by then.
Well I know they used the reason of Sherlock being a fictional character in the Doctor Who world like he is in ours, but I always thought it'd be pretty interesting if instead of him going back and Cumberbatch playing Sherlock Holmes, he played a young Arthur Conan Doyle. He'd just have to grow a mustache! Though one of my favorite parts of the Snowmen episode was when the Doctor did his little Sherlock bit and they used the music and everything. But yeah I feel like a full blown real crossover as much as I like both shows would not really work well for either. I mean Sherlock is based on a very realistic world, can't really have a TARDIS showing up wouldn't be very logical. And as stated before in the Doctor's world Sherlock's just a character from a book so it'd be weird if he's suddenly walking around.
I mean I do sort of agree I feel like the story did kind of reach a conclusion with the whole End of Time thing. But at the same time it wouldn't be hard to make him an enemy again with a new story. I still think that when it gets near the time of Gallifrey to actually return the Master pops up trying to stop the Doctor thinking now he's the hero trying to stop the Doctor from making a terrible decision of bringing them back.
I hope Clara comes back for the 9th series as well. As well as another addition or two, just hopefully not "love interests" for either. They've assured us that the Doctor won't be all lovey and flirty, but I'm still hoping this Danny Pink fellow isn't a love interest of Clara. We don't need another Mickey/Rory!
@The Administrator @JackArtaganMackenna But as we know time is very wibbly. It reminds me of the Matrix when the Oracle tells Neo "What's really going to bake your noodle later is would you still have broken the vase if I hadn't said anything?" Kind of the same thing here. Perhaps the whole reason Nine was drawn to Rose in the first place is a distant piece of lingering memory from the War Doctor remembered the Moment and felt a sense of similarity. I mean Nine was fresh off killing his entire race (or so he thought) and very brooding and also had a very low opinion of the "stupid apes" of humans. So perhaps the whole reason he decided to take Rose with him was subconsciously he felt a sense of familiarity!!
@ChrisMcMillan @Timhogan @Malohkeh It kind of would. I mean The Doctor is never that accurate with precise moments, it'd be way too risky in the off chance he happens to miss it by a couple seconds, causing a gap in the time-line allowing the Daleks to move in and destroy Trenzalore which would undo the future regenerations the Doctor gets, not to mention two of the same TARDIS trying to land at the exact same moment at the exact same time at the exact same place is something that we've learned is a big no-no in Doctor Who, otherwise bad things tend to happen. If the 14th Doctor wanted to enlist the help of his past selves, why would he choose a moment that is so dangerous that the slightest miscalculation could cause the universe to explode, when he could just as easily choose a point that has absolutely no danger what so ever.
@microbat98 I don't know if you could really count Clara either. Because yeah she showed up in Asylum which was a surprised, but we knew at that point she was the new companion and that was put in place as a set up for Clara's companion story, whereas Amy and Martha played 2 entirely different characters.
@Malohkeh @Timhogan Well it's not really a question of him remembering it, that's not the problem. Even if he was gone for only a minute, that breaks the stalemate he had for the entire time he was on Trenzalore. That's the problem. It'd make much more sense to pick a time when the Eleventh was off traveling all over the place on off-screen adventures like we knew he was doing before Trenzalore. Like how Tennant in Day of the Doctor came from the time he was traveling before End of Time. There's plenty of moments they could choose from and do the standard memory wipe when the time-lines corrected themselves. I just think taking an aged Eleven from Trenzalore would cause much more of the "plot holes" they are trying to avoid than if they took Tweed Matt and Amy during their off-screen adventures. Or even Clara and The Doctor because it also seems like they may of had some off-screen adventures as well. I think the main reason for the Trenzalore idea is to explain any aging shown by Smith, but again, in 9 years from now I doubt he's going to look like an old man. He'll only be what, 40 years old? He also doesn't seem the type that's going to age poorly, he'll probably be like McGann and while looking a bit older, won't be hard for him to throw back on the Tweed and a wig (if necessary) to look like his old self.
I take your point but I don't really agree with this personally. From what I gathered during the time jumps of Time of the Doctor, he remained on Trenzalore the entire time. For one, his TARDIS wasn't there (which I like to use as an explanation for the aging because the Doctor tends not to show any age unless he's separated from his TARDIS, even when the master blasts Tennant. 5 in Time Crash could be explained because he's in a different version of his TARDIS, and from Time of the Doctor it showed Hartnell's Doctor stole the TARDIS already aged which is why he was so close to his old age regeneration.) and back to Trenzalore. Reason number 2 would be that even if say the 14th Doctor was to show up and get 11 to come into his TARDIS, then that'd break the stalemate that the Doctor had with the Daleks his entire time on Trenzalore which would hurt the continuity way too much. I mean it's only 9 years from now, Smith is fairly young, I doubt he's going to age poorly either. I'd much rather see a version of The Doctor with Amelia from all the random adventures they went on off screen that we didn't see.
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The problem with this and social scenarios is it just doesn't fit Doctor Who. I mean Sara Jane Adventures it made sense as they were based on earth and social scenarios filled the gaps between the monsters of the week. However the Doctor is going on adventures in the TARDIS with his crew, even his adventures on Earth tend to have little social interaction in terms of trying to fit in with others. I mean maybe for a one off special to pay homage to them, but I don't think the writers should go out of their way to create an episode for her, she'd have to fit into something they were trying to do. I mean it sounds nice on paper, but in actual practice I think it'd be a bad idea to try to bring any characters from the spin off onto the actual show.
@TheNightmareChild sees into your soul! @Timhogan Even if he did, perhaps the virus isn't something he notices right away. Lets say whatever virus he catches on the sonic spreads and even effects his TARDIS a bit to the point where it sends them off to crazy locations corrupting a lot of his files. Eventually the Doctor would be able to fend off the Virus but not before it did the damage. Thus maybe getting The Doctor and gang stuck in space and time like old times trying to correct the TARDIS so he can return it to earth. And having to get a new Sonic Screwdriver that may be a bit more limited. But it won't ever happen. It'd be quite easy lore wise to make the sonic limited, but it's too much of a crutch. And you can't really blame the writers for wanting to keep it, it lets them focus on other parts of the story without having to come up with a clever solution instead of a point and click. That said, I do enjoy when they go a different direction, for example in Bells of Saint John when he grabs the laptop instead of just using the sonic the whole episode made me pretty happy.
@TheNightmareChild sees into your soul! While true, I think there's things that could be done if the writers were really worried about it. It was established in the 50th anniversary that the sonic screwdriver is the same program in a new case that's been updating all these years. So all it would take is one of their really smart, clever enemies like the Dalek or the Cybermen to somehow set up a virus on something that when the Doctor uses his sonic it gets a virus that corrupts the software. I mean especially considering the Cybermen already made it inside the Doctors head, I don't think it'd be a huge stretch if they were able to crack into the programming of the Sonic. And as the poster likened the sonic to our Smart Phones, what happens when a Smart Phone gets a virus? It doesn't run very well. Therefore if one of his enemies could get the Sonic with a virus that severely constricts it for at least an episode, if not for a temporary time until the Doctor can either fix or build a completely new software for it. Which if he builds a completely new software then it may end up being that since it is a fresh sonic without all his files on it from the last one, he has to redownload all his apps and start everything fresh!
@Planet of the Deaf Will they? Okay. I just felt like that was forever ago and almost even forgot, that's why I wanted to make sure I wasn't crazily imagining stuff!
Kind of off topic question here: What ever happened to the sonic device's that were designed by kids? Wasn't there supposed to be an episode where Jenny, Strax, and Vastra used them? Or was it not for an actual episode and just for the contest? I remember the winners and them talking about how they designed them, I just thought for some reason we were going to see them used in at least a minisode or something.
I've been extremely torn on this issue for awhile now. On the one hand, having another Multi-Doctor story without having to wait until 2023 would be fantastic. On the other hand, we just had the 50th. On top of that you have the issue with the returning Doctors. First Eccleston is a huge question mark, still not sure if he didn't do the 50th because of schedule issues or just didn't like the script. Tennant? As you said, he just recently returned so it'd take away from how special it was if he starts coming back all the time. Smith as well, to me, is too soon for returning. I mean 2 years after he left seems a little short to me. Sure people were sad to see him go, but bringing him back that quick is a little fast in my opinion. That said, I do so hope Moffat has something planned to celebrate it. Like perhaps a multi-companion story, have the real Rose Tyler (since it wasn't actually her in the 50th it would be okay. To trail off on that thought, perhaps if Pete's world Rose somehow ended up on an adventure with the current Doctor, perhaps Tennant could reprise his role as the human meta-crisis Doctor.) Would love to see Martha or Donna return as well. Amy as well, since in the regeneration that wasn't actually Amy, but an imagination of 11 in his dying moments. It'd be perfect because it wouldn't take away from the Multi-Doctor anniversaries, but maybe start a new tradition of multi-companion stories for the revival.
@MrRazza, the Newly Qualified Omega Identifier @NumberNine Yeah the fans of Doctor Who usually tend to be really good about spoilers. This isn't the first time something has been screened early and they usually do a good job at keeping things tight lipped.
I don't like using the words "dark" or "angry" or anything. I'm hoping he's serious yes, but I feel like the Doctor should sort of be "high on himself." I mean if you think about the recent events of what the 11th Doctor has gone through, he should be in high spirits. I mean he found out he actually saved Gallifrey instead of destroyed it, went to trenzalore and lived (with a regeneration, but still not his final death), and walked away with a completely new set of regenerations. So in my mind, the Doctor at this point should really be kind of arrogant. The fact that he's been around for 2000 years and the worst thing he's ever done turned out to not be true. That's a good thing, not a dark thing. That's why I hope he's more of a serious arrogant Doctor rather than a dark angry Doctor.
@TheNightmareChild sees into your soul! @Timhogan I'm kind of hoping it's also things we did get to see, but in a different perspective as well. For example the Day of the Doctor moment where you saw Capaldi's eyes. I'd absolutely love if someday when Moffat decides to actually bring the Time Lords back he goes back to that very scene from Capaldi's point of view where he's using that moment where he's spent the last X amount of years preparing to re-do that moment and is able to track Gallifrey this time around.
I'm almost wondering if the Doctor will be going back to places he has been before. I mean "I've made mistakes, it's about time I do something about it," makes it sound as if he might come awfully close to crossing over time lines to right some things he may of gotten wrong. Like going inside a Dalek, could that specific Dalek end up being the Oswin-Dalek from Asylum? Revisiting House and Idris for some reason?


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Home building is surging, job growth isn'tBy ALEX VEIGA
The Associated Press | May 10,2013AP Photo
Richard Vap, owner of South Valley Drywall, poses for a photo at a home construction site with one of his crews working in the background in Lakewood, Colo.The resurgent U.S. housing market has sent builders calling again for Richard Vap, who owns a drywall installation company. Vap would love to help — if he could hire enough qualified people.
"There is a shortage of manpower," says Vap, owner of South Valley Drywall in Littleton, Colo. "We're probably only hiring about 75 or 80 percent of what we actually need."
U.S. builders and the subcontractors they depend on are struggling to hire fast enough to meet rising demand for new homes. Builders would be starting work on more homes — and contributing more to the economy — if they could fill more job openings. In the meantime, workers in the right locations with the right skills are commanding higher pay.
The shortage of labor ranges across occupations — from construction superintendents and purchasing agents to painters, cabinet makers and drywall installers. The National Association of Home Builders says its members have complained of too few framers, roofers, plumbers and carpenters. The shortage is most acute in areas where demand for new homes has recovered fastest, notably in Arizona, California, Texas, Colorado and Florida.
The problem results largely from an exodus of workers from the industry after the housing bubble burst. Experienced construction workers lost jobs. And many found new work — in commercial building or in booming and sometimes higher-paying industries like mining and natural gas drilling — and aren't eager to come back.
Hispanic immigrants, largely from Mexico, who had filled jobs during the boom were among those who left the industry and, in some cases, the United States.
Dave Erickson, president of Greyhawk Homes in Columbus, Ga., lost an employee who took a job this year in Texas. The former employee is now installing fiber-optic cable and earning 30 percent more than he did as a construction supervisor.
"I think he's frustrated with the cycle we went through in recent years," Erickson says.
A shortage of labor in a well-paying industry might seem incongruous in an economy stuck with a still-high 7.5 percent unemployment rate. But it reflects just how many former skilled construction workers have moved on to other fields.
In 2006, when the boom peaked, 3.4 million people worked in homebuilding. By 2011, the figure had bottomed at about 2 million. As of last month, about 2.1 million people were employed in residential construction.
Jobs in the industry did rise 4.1 percent in April from a year earlier, faster than overall U.S. job growth. But they'd have to surge 24 percent more to reach 2.6 million, their 2002 level — "the last time the market was normal," says David Crowe, chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders.
For now, the industry is building faster than it's hiring. In February, builders began work on single-family homes at the fastest pace in five years. And in March, new home construction broke the 1 million mark for the first time since June 2008. Permits for future construction are also near a five-year high.
In the 12 months that ended in March, housing starts surged 47 percent. Yet over the same period, the industry's employment grew just 3.7 percent.
Normally, a rebound in home construction helps propel an economy after a recession. But even with the steady gains in housing starts, sales and prices since last year, the industry remains below levels considered healthy.
The National Association of Home Builders says nearly half its members who responded to a survey in March said a scarcity of labor has led to delays in completing work. Fifteen percent have had to turn down some projects.
"I can't find qualified people to fill the positions that I have open," says Vishaal Gupta, president of Park Square Homes in Orlando, Fla. If not for the labor shortage, "I would be able to build more homes this year and meet more demand than I can handle today."
Gupta's company is facing a side effect of the labor shortage: Demand for higher pay from qualified workers. On some occasions, he says he's been outbid by rivals that need contractors for their own projects. Gupta's preferred paint contractor left for a rival that paid more. His new cabinet contractor is about 10 percent more expensive than the one Gupta used before.
The higher pay they're handing out helps explain why builders have been gradually raising prices on new homes. The median price was $247,000 in March, up about 12 percent from the same month in 2011, the Commerce Department says.
The industry may have to look more aggressively for workers at vocational schools, federally funded programs like Job Corps and elsewhere, says Crowe of the homebuilders group.
"We'll have to recruit more," he says.
Vap, owner of South Valley Drywall, rode out the downturn after the housing crash in part by relying on commercial construction projects. He cut his residential construction staff from 244 in 2006 to 80 in 2009.
This year, Vap has hired 15 field employees for residential construction and says he needs to hire 35 more to do the work he foresees in 2013.
During the 2005-2006 housing boom years, Gupta had to bring in workers from Texas because there weren't enough employees in Florida to keep up with construction. He doubts many of those veterans will return.
"A lot of people who are from other states or from Mexico are not willing to come back here as fast as they did last time because of what they experienced," Gupta says.
Between 2005 and 2010, 1.4 million Mexicans moved from the United States to Mexico — roughly twice as many as in the previous five-year period, according to the Pew Research Center. Though an estimated 11 million people remain in the United States illegally, the influx of illegal immigration from Mexico has essentially stopped, says Douglas Massey, a professor of sociology at Princeton University.
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Series: Wolves of Stone Ridge #6
Published By: Extasy Books
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Jared Templeton returned to Colin City for one reason, to make it through his sister's wedding. After that he wanted to return to his home in Massachusetts and go back to his blessed solitude and his life as an assassin. He didn't plan on attending a viewing for a deceased mentor, agreeing to help his shifter friend rescue a blind man, or learning that he had a shifter mate, a male shifter mate. He'd never been attracted to a man before, but he couldn't deny that he lusted after this one. And he had no clue what to do about it, or how he could fit the wolf shifter into his life if he did give in to his desires.
Carson Angeni is the enforcer for the Stone Ridge wolf pack. He's followed his alpha's commands and obeyed him without question, even to the point of taking lives to ensure the safety of his pack. When he's faced with a mate who kills for money, with no remorse and no conscience, he questions Fate's choice. How can he accept someone who seems to get his jollies by goading those around him, not to mention Jared lives halfway across the country? But as he gets to know the man, Carson learns that there is more to him than Jared's brash exterior displays. There's definitely a connection between them and both have trouble denying it, but Carson can't accept Jared's work as an assassin. And when Carson discovers that Jared knew from the beginning that he was Carson's mate, it creates even more tension between them. Can Carson learn to trust his mate while trying to convince Jared to give up the only life and the only job he's ever known, to settle with him in Stone Ridge?
Written By: Stephani Hecht
Series: Drone Vampire Chronicles #15
Published By: Extasy Books
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Because of his turbulent childhood, Kale tries to make safe life choices. He stays by his twin's side, serves his coven leader and never sleeps with the wrong kinds of guys…until he finds himself drawn to the most unsafe man in the world—fellow warlock Ian.
Once, Ian was part of the most dreaded coven known to the supernatural world. Although he left the coven at the same time his brother and cousin did, Ian still feels as if those years surrounded by evil stole all the good from him. Many fear him, and Ian likes it that way for he never wants to be seen as weak or vulnerable. He's confused when he falls for a quiet warlock with a noble spirit, but that doesn't stop Ian from making a great sacrifice in order to save Kale…a sacrifice that leaves Ian weaker and more vulnerable than ever.
Now, Kale must protect Ian from the enemies hunting them. As death draws closer, Kale discovers that maybe the safest choice isn't the best. Still, will he be strong enough to save both of them, or will they become the next causality of the
Written By: Keiko Alvarez
Published By: Extasy Books
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Kandi's a porn star. Berto's a bartender. They're in love. Everything is perfect except for one little detail—he knows nothing about her career. How long can Kandi keep her little secret and what will happen when Berto learns all about it?
Written By: Tianna Xander
Series: Paradise #11
Published By: Extasy Books
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When Melody Madison, new first violin, first chair of the New Haven Philharmonic gets strange threatening letters from a deranged fan, she has nowhere to turn. With her family gone, she has only her best friend, Carmen and Carmen's uncles to turn to. Can the men help her in her time of need and will she be able to keep her hands to herself so they can protect her?
When Mitch and Wyatt Baldwin meet their niece's college roommate for the first time, they are shocked to realize that she is their much-anticipated mate. After years of waiting and searching, they find it difficult to believe she has been so close, but yet so far for the last several years. When they find she is being stalked by a fanatical admirer, they take her security into their hands. After all, it is their right and their privilege to protect what is theirs.
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Published By: Extasy Books
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Tommy Cooper has just turned 21 and is getting his first exposure to the gay club scene when he meets Darren Maguire, a go-go dancer. Not only is Darren about the hottest guy that Tommy has ever seen, but he also has an identical twin brother named Michael who is also a dancer. Things quickly heat up for Tommy and Darren, but Michael doesn't exactly approve. Michael is more serious and wishes his brother Darren would focus more on his education. When Michael meets the man of his dreams, however, he begins to understand the power of romance. Both of the twins become embroiled in relationships which are sure to affect their future, but in the party environment of a dance club, can any such relationship last? And what of the parade of hot guys that constantly come in and out of their lives? Only time will tell if Tommy has actually met the man of his dreams or if he's simply allowed himself to be swept up by a passing sensation…a Twinsation.
Written By: Charlie Richards
Series: Wolves of Stone Ridge #7
Published By: Extasy Books
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Dagus Whitton is tired of being controlled. After his brother Drake moved in with his shifter mate, Dagus had felt a great sense of accomplishment from finally living on his own, especially considering his blindness. But that was before being kidnapped by scientists bent on using him as a bargaining chip against the shifters living in the area. Now he struggles being alone, but hates always having someone watching over him. He'd had his life neatly in hand and just wants to get that feeling of contentment back. Discovering a mate has its pros and cons, and Dagus isn't certain he's ready for more drama.
Brad Nadeau never thought he'd find a mate, since his homophobic father filled his head with the belief that Fate didn't grant them to gay shifters. When his biker gang walks into a gay bar in Colin City for a night of fun, Brad's world is turned upside-down. Not only does he find his mate, but he discovers that the guy is human, blind, and already knows about shifters. That should make claiming Dagus easy, right? Except accepting his mate means Brad will have to leave the only family he's known for the last thirty-seven years, his motorcycle gang. When his leader tells him that the gang needs to move out in less than forty-eight hours to search for a missing member, Brad is faced with an important choice, and not much time to make it in. Learning that the local wolf pack is experiencing dangerous unrest due to several members not liking all the other shifter breeds in the area doesn't make his choice any easier. Is Brad ready to face down shifters like his father to start a whole new life with a mate he isn't certain wants his brand of care?
Written By: Stephani Hecht
Series: The Lost Shifters #17
Published By: Extasy Books
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Valentines, shmalatines…just give Shane somebody to kill, or at the very least punch around a little bit.
Shane is known for killing, maiming and causing fear. He sure as hell isn't known for being sappy or sentimental. So when Valentine's Day rolls around, he finds himself at a loss as to what to get Trevor. Shane knows that a simple box of chocolates or roses will do the trick, but not with a mate who's as great as Trevor.
When Shane finds himself distracted from his task when Riley is in need of help, Shane finds the perfect solution in the last place he thought possible. Will Trevor like his gift, or is Shane going to blow what is supposed to be the most romantic day of the year?
Written By: Astrid Cooper
Series: Monsters Ink #3
Published By: Extasy Books
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Jaidyn is a vampire. He faints at the sight of blood, his fangs haven't developed, and he's a vegetarian. But worse—he's also a virgin. Even organising the cabaret show, Dracula—revamped, at Monsters inK, while dealing with renegade wizards, vampires, a feisty witch and their human companions is everyday stuff. But his life becomes complicated when he rescues the injured leopard shifter, whose sexy smile and seductive songs turn Jai's life upside down. Leydan is a thief on a deadly mission. What he's stolen every Blood-Kin wants. Battle lines are drawn, but it is the battle for the heart that may destroy Jai and Ley… Can a vampire truly love a thief? Somehow Ley has to convince the vampire that a leopard can truly change his spots when he finds his life-mate.
Written By: Melody Lane
Published By: Extasy Books
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Psychologist Dylan Murphy is visiting Edinburgh for the Beltane—May Day—festival and looking for whatever entertainment he can find. When he unexpectedly meets his former lover, Lauryn Campbell, a good witch from Dublin, he is shocked when she tells him they have been brought together to save the May Queen from a potential killer. What they didn't count on was the great impact of past heartbreak and present sexual attraction as they strive to avert an Edinburgh catastrophe.
Written By: Mark Alders
Published By: Extasy Books
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When the townsfolk of Passmore get wind of the fact their Vicar's new verger, Wilson Rooney, is gay, a series of events spark the start of both his and the vicar's adventures when it comes to keeping the rather interesting flock of Passmore within the fold. Not only that, they'll have to gain the approval of the parish council before Wilson can be accepted. No small task when it's headed by one of the most conservative parish council leaders ever to have walked the face of God's green earth.
Can the vicar get Wilson accepted into the community? Or will his efforts result in a disaster that will divide the town they have been trying to keep together since the decline in population has hit them hard. Time will tell, but not before love blooms in the most unexpected way and the vicar uses some rather unorthodox methods to get his parishioners to see the light about Wilson and his lifestyle choice.
Written By: Zenina Masters
Series: Darkest Star Saga #4
Published By: Extasy Books
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Xia has been running from dreams of fire her entire adult life. She warns, threatens and begs, but no one will listen when she tells them she knows when and where the fire will strike. Across twelve worlds she has been chased by the nightmares, and now she finally has met the one man she has been looking for all her life, the man who will use her knowledge to stop the flames from destroying lives.
Drov is an Asku of the Velu family, and he is a posted base commander on a world beset by fires. When he was scanning the passenger files of an incoming ship, he found a woman he wanted without knowing she existed. Xia will tell him where the fire is, and in return, he offers her a home, a world and so much more.
Written By: Ravon Silvius
Published By: Extasy Books
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Herman, a cyborg soldier, has overcome illness and discovered much about the society he used to fight for that unnerves him. Now he must ultimately decide where his loyalties lie-with the space dwelling society who designed him to be an efficient killer, or with a kind man who tells him that he should take the opportunity to live on his own terms.
Written By: Charlie Richards
Series: Kontra's Menagerie #1
Published By: Extasy Books
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Mutegi Atieno is shocked to discover the man stranded on the side of the road in a broken down truck is his mate. When his first assumption is proved incorrect and he learns the woman and baby with Ben Moore are not his wife and daughter, Mutegi realizes he actually has a shot at claiming the human. But first Mutegi and his friends need to save the trio from Ben's sister's sadistic ex-husband. It was a difficult task. The man had already chased Ben and Cassie across three states in an attempt to steal his daughter back, ignoring the court's ruling that had deemed him unfit. If Mutegi manages to find a way to save the siblings from the madman, can he also figure out how to tell his human mate that he's a shifter?
Written By: Keiko Alvarez
Published By: Extasy Books
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The lights are out. All he has to do is find the right switch.
Sam is the most sought after law school graduate in Florida. Rayne is the most sought after woman in Florida. He wants her, but there is one problem—she doesn't even know he exists. For that matter, it seems that she doesn't know anyone exists. It's as though she's hiding behind a door that stands between her and the rest of the world. When Sam knocks on that door, it's like no one is home—so he just keeps knocking harder.
Written By: Stephani Hecht
Series: EMS Heat #13
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Started by ~buzz~ , Dec 18 2012 02:08 PM
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Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:08 PM
After a few days of on/off cramps and a backache I woke up this morning and had a few drops of blood on the toilet paper when I wiped.
Went up to the hospital and had the CTG monitoring and saw the doctor she did an internal and said my cervix has moved forward and is starting to open so now I'm just wondering if anyone else has had anything similar and if so how long after did you have the baby? I know everyone is different but I'm just curious
Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:15 PM
With my spontaneous labour, I lost my plug and had a bit of bleeding on a Friday night and went into labour 6am Sunday morning.
Good luck!! Hope it is very soon for you
Posted 18 December 2012 - 02:15 PM
I'm really sorry because I don't belong in here at all, but I saw your post in recent topics and can't help but feel excited for you! Good luck and I hope you have an early Christmas present cuddling in your arms soon!
Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:52 AM
I started having contractions at 3am stopped at 6am so I got a bit of sleep but since waking up I've had diarrhea and vomiting so really hoping today or tomorrow is the day
Would be nice if my water could just break like in the movies at least then I'd actually believe it was happening
Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:05 AM
I dont belong here either, but the vomitting and diarrhea were sure signs for me , my waters didn't break till it was time to push.
Goodluck I hope you are cuddling bubs soon
Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:07 AM
Good luck Buzz! Hopefully baby will be it's on way today
Posted 19 December 2012 - 05:18 PM
Sounds like its happening. Good luck and hope you have a baby very soon.
My waters broke like the movies but not much else happened so its probably better the way it's happening for you.
Posted 19 December 2012 - 05:19 PM
well so far today nothing else has happened have consistent back pain and a crampy feeling but not enough for it to actually be happening getting very impatient now lol
Posted 19 December 2012 - 05:30 PM
I'm not surprised! I didn't go into spontaneous labour (c-sect due to complications) but I remember being mad with impatience for the last few weeks. Hang in there and good luck for when he/she does arrive.
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