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- Publisher: Frictional Games
- Release Date: Sep 10, 2013
- Summary: Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs is an upcoming survival horror video game developed by thechineseroom and produced by Frictional Games. The game is an indirect sequel to Amnesia: The Dark Descent, which was developed and produced by Frictional Games.
- Developer: Frictional Games
- Genre(s): Horror
- Cheats: On GameFAQs
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Score distribution:
Positive: 26 out of 59
Mixed: 32 out of 59
Negative: 1 out of 59
Sep 10, 2013Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs is a well-oiled horror mechanism. It's a great sequel that will be loved by the old and new players.
Oct 5, 2013Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs has its faults as a game, but as an experience it can't be faulted. [Oct 2013]
Sep 9, 2013Scary as hell, but not so much like its predecessor The Dark Descent - considered one of the scariest games ever made -, this Machine for Pigs is truly a terrifying Lovecraftian tale of Victorian and industrial horror, with unthinkable machines, mad doctors and more, but with some wrong design decisions.
Sep 9, 2013It is a definite step back from The Dark Descent, but even several steps back makes this better than almost any other horror game released in the past decade.
Dec 12, 2013A Machine for Pigs is a well made and impressive game with a thorough thematic design and atmosphere. As a horror game it is rather spartan yet brilliant in that it let's your brain conjure most of its horrors. Unfortunately it comes with a rather numbing effect that makes later parts of the game feel more formulaic and not as scary.
Sep 11, 2013Amnesia: A Machine For Pigs is a pretty good game, with a well written story, good voice acting, an atmospheric musical score, suitably varied and eerie environments, and quite a few stomach churning and downright creepy moments. It never gets boring or frustrating, and there are no passages in particular that qualify as less than enjoyable. Unfortunately, though, it's just not that scary. And that's quite the let down for a horror game.
Sep 11, 2013A Machine for Pigs takes Amnesia's formula and shows us how to screw it up. The idea had huge potential, but it's squandered on what frankly is a cheap and uninvolving game. This was an extremely disappointing experience.
Score distribution:
Positive: 106 out of 296
Mixed: 63 out of 296
Negative: 127 out of 296
Sep 10, 2013Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs is definitely not the same game as The Dark Descent. It's quite different. It's got fewer jump scares and it's not as splatter-horror-y as some fans might have wished. But boy, that overwhelming, thick sense of dread that comes with every step down into the unholy machine. Not to mention the brillant soundtrack by Jessica Curry (do yourselves a favour and buy it) and the brillant writing by Dan Pinchbeck. I guess it takes a bit of effort to actually get involved into the story (similar to Dear Esther) but you'll probably get one of the most literary experiences in video games to date.… Expand
Sep 15, 2013What to say about Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs... It is definable not like a dark descent, but it is much, much deeper in story. If you are someone who flew through a dark descent with out reading anything then I am certain this game is not for you! But if you did read and enjoyed the story in a dark descent, You will most likely enjoy Machine for pigs. It has a wonderful deep story but lacks in the strong horror elements that made a dark descent so great. I'm not gonna call this a spoiler because it is so obvious, in the game their are pigs, as someone who has had pigs and had pigs slaughtered made this game particularly not frightening. But, the story was so good that I enjoyed it anyways.
For pure horror: skip it
For a great interactive story experience: play it… Expand
Sep 15, 2013I found the original Amnesia to have great ideas but to fall flat on its ass with how gamey the inventory and the meters made it feel. Only every now and then were you able to forget its actually a game.
This time around they concentrated on what made Amnesia great. (If you can honestly say playing around with your inventory was what made it good then... I don't know... Diablo or Path of Exile might be more your cup of tea )
- Atmosphere
- Story
- The horror element Until...
Once they reveal too much of the pig-men. Once you've seen them a bunch they really lose their effectiveness. This is not a monster design flaw IMO. The same thing happens with all monsters once you get a good long look at them. It is a pacing story telling flaw. This is were almost all horror games & movies for that matter fall flat on their arse.… Expand
Sep 11, 2013"Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs" (AAMFP from now on) takes off several years after the original "Amnesia: the Dark Descent". You play as Oswald Mandus, a feverish english gentleman on a quest to find his children. Story wise, the game is really good. It offers many considerations, and it really gets the player after the first half of the game. The atmosphere is absolutely fantastic, a true lighthouse for the horror genre to follow. Unfortunately, these are the only real good things about AAMFP. After the first of the four hours needed to complete the game, the player will know exactly what to expect from the game. The monsters are plain and not frightening at all, nor will they bother the player too much, since they're easy to outrun or hide from, and their relative uninterest for the player, which is unforgivable in an horror game. Level design is lacking, with too many sideways to avoid monsters and foreseeable dangers, which in turn make the game even easier than it is. Monster encounters are few and forgettable. The necessity to hunt for oil and light has been removed giving the player an electric lamp, which light will defeat anyone fears. Puzzles are far too easy, and the inventory is gone in the name of a more immediate gameplay.
In the end, AAMFP feels more like a story, told in front of a fireplace in a rainy and cold night, rather than a travel in the depths of human fears. The storytelling is superb, with a writing among the best I've ever read, the visuals are stunning and inspiring, but the gameplay lacks many elements that made Amnesia and Penumbra famous. AAMFP is a good game in its own right, but can't stand the confront with "The Dark Descent".… Expand
Sep 11, 2013I expected so much more from this title but this was just a cash in. This was not scary, but rather boring. The enemies were lame looking and you could just walk right through them if cornered, the graphics were just the same as tdd nothing special, interaction throughout the world has almost been completely taken away, the puzzles were child's play. This game was meant to be a step forward but has turned into another letdown in the gaming industry. disappointing...… Expand
Sep 13, 2013Overall not a rememberable game and wasn't what i was expecting.
They got rid of a lot of things that made the previous amnesia and penumbra games great.
They got rid of the puzzles.
They got rid of inventory drops like laudanum, oil and craftable parts.
They got rid of having to hide from the monsters.
They got rid of the suspenseful music, and in the end the storyline was pretty mediocre.
If you want to play a good HPL interactive horror game try out the old penumbra games...… Expand
Sep 13, 2013I went in with full expectations for a game very different from the first game and an hour in I thought it was going to be brilliant. When I finished the game I was mostly disappointed. The horror related to surviving the world is virtually non-existent. The monsters in the game invoke a sense of sadness, not of dread. The story had amazing potential that was mostly squandered before the mid-game by revealing too much of the plot too early and then just forcing the player to plod on through the locales, knowing all there is to know about the story. The puzzles are non-existent and are simply interactive spots, not puzzles per se.
The biggest letdown was probably the pacing and contents of the story one presented somewhat clumsily and unveiled too early on, one that never culminates into any significant revelation. The people claiming this is very much Dear Esther 2 are right to a large degree. Both games ended in a very similar way and the feelings they invoked in me were very similar.
The game would have done a lot better without promising me the "darkest, most horrific tale ever told in a videogame" and without the Amnesia logo. If this was a standalone release from the Chinese Room, I would have rated this a lot higher because the story was FINE. It was just depressing and very very sad, not horrific, and there was a severe lack of visuals to support the purportedly 'psychological slow burn horror' the game went for. I cannot be scared by a story just because its makers tell me it's dark and twisted, games as a medium should use their full range of tools to convey those feelings and the game failed in that department. While it would have been a fine novel, AMFP generally fails at being a good game, despite its intriguing plot.… Expand
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Lor'Themar's eyeLor'Themar is one eye blind due to battle injuries in the Sunwell Trilogy, but in World of Warcraft he has both eyes. The answer? Its make up and a contact lens (most likely Rommath's idea) to make him look more Lordly.
The Old Gods are manifestations of the Five SensesJust think on it for a minute. There are five Old Gods and five Senses that humans (and theoretically, humanoids in Azeroth) have, which could easily be a coincidence. But then you look at the evidence we have. The Five Senses are some of the most primal things humans have that we never had to engineer, and the Old Gods are primal beings that have tormented the living beings of Azeroth longer than any other entities we're aware of. Look at the Old Gods we've met so far. C'thun has an undeniable eye motif, having an entire phase during his fight devoted to battling his eye. He represents Sight. Yogg-Saron, also known as the Beast with a Thousand Maws, has mouths in the place of eyes and has a recurring 'Maw of Madness' theme going on. He represents Taste. N'zoth, the new Old God that we know next-to-nothing about, but his servants include Deathwing and Warlord Zon'ozz, a Faceless One. As both of these leaders have a more hands-on approach to what they do (culminating in Deathwing physically flying around and sundering the world), I would assume N'zoth represents Touch, and when he is finally revealed, his face may be 'composed entirely of tentacles' as is the guy who named him, Zoth-Ommog, with a reliance on claws and tentacles during his fight.
Bolvar is manipulating SylvanasSylvanas has taken command of the Val'kyr, claiming that when the Lich King died, the more intelligent scourge became unemployed. Except, Bolvar is the new Lich King. Now, we know that Sylvanas gained her freedom when Ner'Zhul temporarily lost power, but we also know that Bolvar had to become the new Lich King because without one, the Scourge would go berserk. It's very likely that Bolvar would blame the Forsaken for his death, since it was their Grand Apothecary that killed him. Unknown to Sylvanas, the Val'kyr are still serving the Lich King, and are assisting Bolvar by creating an army that will destroy the Forsaken from within, again. This would fit perfectly with Sylvanas's new Won't Be Fooled Again attitude.
Draenor Never Blew UpOutland is either simply the player taking in LSD, as evidenced by the giant mushrooms, floating land masses and how there is still life there in spite of the obviousness of how their should be a lack of sufficient gravity due to the mass of Outland. And the inhabitants of the place are merely "high" Another theory involves how that there was a link to Draenor from Outland, but Illidan closed it, and that Outland serves as the halfway point from Draenor to Azeroth. Also the Outland that the player goes to may be in fact the creation of mind from one of Draenor's inhabitants before he/she escaped via portal, at the time of the planet's apparent destruction. The reason I say the above sentence is that I reckon because of how Outland apparently lies in the Twisting Nether, and in the Twisting Nether one can create anything that they know of. (I.E In the nether you can create an entire library but those books would only contain information you already know), which is why Outland is no bigger than the map of Draenor given in Beyond The Dark Portal
Cataclysm is an excuse to put Saurfang in charge of the Horde.From what I've seen, he seems to be the third in command of the Horde, right after Garrosh. Garrosh is going to be the new Warchief while Thrall goes out to level grind in badass. We already know, from the dialogue in Warsong Hold, that Saurfang isn't afraid to kill Garrosh if he goes too far. Way I see it, Garrosh crosses the Moral Event Horizon (Probably by killing Cairne/Vol'Jin), and this leads to Saurfang and the Horde players taking part in an epic coup that ends with Saurfang the new Warchief and Garrosh dying of Cleave. I assume that Saurfang will be leading a rebel faction of the Horde prior to said event. It will end with both factions having their resident badass running the show.
Garona Halforcen is half Goblin.Due to sloppy retcons that make the idea of her being half-human unlikely, I vote we take a hard look at the other Draenor races. Ogres are unlikely as parents, and so are Draenai, so maybe goblin is an overlooked possibility.
Imps and Goblins are related, and may come from the same world.Imps are red and Goblins are green, but the two are otherwise very similar in appearance and disposition. It may be that goblins escaped to Azeroth from the imp homeworld when it was invaded by the Burning Legion. Over time, the goblins lost their more demonic features as they absorbed the more natural, healing influences of Azeroth.
The events of the Warcraft Universe will happen in the futureTake a good look at this here map and tell me that's not Kalimdor, complete with the Well of Eternity. Plus it helps to remember that while we are told that Kalimdor, the Eastern Kingdoms and Northrend were all a supercontinent at one point, we don't have any maps or other such information of what pre-Sundering Kalimdor actually looked like.
The Warcraft Timeline is Being Torn ApartWhether through the influence of the Legion or just some imminent magical catastrophe, causality is being ripped apart and the progression of time is slowing and twisting back on itself. This has been going on since at least WC 3 where you could bring peope back from the dead even if they were killed assuming they were heroes, as long as they were still important to the timeline (so they could still be killed off once their purpose was fulfilled) and only with a significant investment of resources and an Alter to serve as a focus. By the time we get to the WoW period, anybody can cheat death without much effort, and even when some progress should be made through the completion of quests or killing of significant world figures, it doesn't stick and instead seems to revert to the way it was within moments.
The Emerald Nightmare is caused by Hakkar The Soulflayer and the Old Gods, who are connectedThat is, assuming Hakkar isn;t an Old God himself. I mean, lets take a look at what we know of the Nightmare, Hakkar, and Old Gods in general shall we?
The soldiers of Azeroth's armies are golems.They're constructs made of gold and wood. That explains why you just give those resources to a building and a soldier comes out a few moments later.
Pigs influence all major events in the Warcraft Universe.Think of all the quests in World of Warcraft requiring you to kill boars. The populations are placed and numbered carefully to draw adventurers of a certain power level and repel those below it, as well as moving the nations' economies around by inciting them into giving those quests. And why do the demon-controlled orcs in Warcraft 3 use pig farms when all other orcs in the game have moved on? Because the pigs have links to demons which haven't been fleshed out yet. Add in the quillboars of Kalimdor and it's clear that there's some serious porcine shit moving things around.
Kil'Jaeden knew the Lich King would betray the Legion, and in fact hoped so.Kil created the Lich King, as everyone who has read the background info knows. However, in the events of Warcraft III, it is only Archimonde who keeps using the Scourge for himself, and in the end he almost drains the powers of the World Tree, which would have made him a living god and definitely thrown Kil'Jaeden off from the co-leadership of the Legion. Did Kil not guess Archi would betray him if he were given him a chance? Hell no. In fact, since Kil created the very being who ensured Archimonde would get killed, it's reasonable to believe Kil started the whole events of Warcraft III only to get his counterpart killed and get the leadership of the Legion to himself. Notice that later on when he tells Illidan that killing Tichondrius is what made Archimonde's death possible, he doesn't even seem that angry.
WoW is a theme park version of Azeroth.At least WoW has the excuse of being really scaled down version of the world of Azeroth (in the Warcraft games aswell as the backstory distances are much greater), so the changes in climate wouldnät occur so suddenly in "real" Azeroth. The game essentially takes place in a theme park version of Azeroth.
Corollary to the previous one, WoW is the equivalent of a historical reenactment of the events of the storyline, as viewed from significantly into the future.This allows for concurrent running of events, can explain some retcons (unappreciated influences finally get their due respect) and the move of Naxxramas (since it is the same thing, why would whoever's funding the reenactment bother representing it in both places?). Lots and lots of special effects, and very careful use of different magics allow for interested people to "visit" the Azeroth of centuries ago, during possibly the greatest wars in the planet's history. Oh, and the Infinite Dragonflight, despite acting in-character, are the Anonymous of this project, trying to screw up its history for the lulz.
Jaina Proudmoore will defect to Horde side in the futureThink about it. King Varian Wrynn seems more than willing to go to war with the Horde, while Jaina really, really doesn't want to. She's gone as far as to directly intervene with his plans to protect a friend. Said friend just so happens to be the Warchief of the Horde. Frankly, Varian Wrynn has little reason to trust her, especially if he intends to declare war on the Horde (assuming that outburst in Undercity wasn't a formal declaration of war already). I can see her being disowned by the Alliance. Should that happen, she would most likely be considered an enemy by both sides, unless she seeks refuge within the Horde. It'd be easy enough to get Thrall to take her in, and once he's made up his mind, there ain't a whole lot the rest of the Horde can do about it. I can't really see Cairne or Vol'jin objecting, either.
Thrall is deader than a five-man Ironforge raid on a crowded Friday.Blizz has been talking about putting in an "Anti-Thrall" for a reaaaally long time now, someone who could and would show the world that the orcs were still a threat. And now we've got this Varian Wrynn, who not only shares many suspicious parallels with Thrall's background (enslaved as a gladiator by the opposite faction, escaped, realized he was royalty, and became king when he returned to his people) but also has all but declared open war on the Horde. He hateshateshates orcs. Word of God has stated specifically that he is designed to be Thrall's direct opposite number. This isn't over until one of them is dead.
There are one or more unrevealed continents in Azeroth's Southern HemisphereThink about it. The southern tip of the Eastern Kingdoms is a tropical jungle (Stranglethorn Vale) and Southern Kalimdor is either desert (Tanaris and Silithus) or jungle (Un'Goro Crater). If either continent extended much past the equator one would expect to see a progression back into temperate zones as you went south, therefore both continents are mostly in the northern hemisphere, maybe dipping down to the equator but not much further. It would seem extremely illogical to me that all the land on Azeroth would be located in the northern hemisphere.
As Above, the unknown Southern Continent will form the basis of a future expansion packAnd the Padaren capital will form a neutral city like Shattrath and Dalaran do currently, having abandoned their secrecy and neutrality due to some unseen threat. Possibly a new incursion of the Scourge or maybe something else entirely. Whether the Pandaren will also become a playable race is a coin toss, though a new Pandaren themed class is a distinct possibility.
The Silmarillion is a WMG version of the Warcraft timeline written awhile after some apocalyptic event. This also means that Middle Earth is Azeroth IN THE FUTURE.So, here's how it goes down: The Blue Dragonflight are, as of Wot LK, determined to forcibly pry all the magic out of Azeroth, as mortals are unworthy of it. They succeed, and, as everybody told them it would, everything goes straight to hell. Stars going out, earthquakes, volcanoes, the ocean rushing in to cover the land, cats and dogs living together - mass hysteria. Teldrassil, being a magical tree grown with magic that has a magic city on top, implodes. Azuremyst and Bloodmyst isles, being punctured all over with volatile magic crystals, experience the equivalent of a nuclear fallout. The Scourge, having nothing to animate it, drops dead. Naxx falls out of the sky. The Blood Elves go totally apeshit. The Dark Portal goes poof. The Gnomes and the Goblins realize that their technology isn't actually physically possible without magic, sending them both back to the Dark Age. Thrall is killed in the ensuing confusion, sending the orcs into a state of chaos. Cut to the Second Age or so. In a few millenia, nobody remembers there ever having been magic of the flashy-fireball type, although "magic" caused by the Titans (Valar) and demons (evil Maiar) still exist. he remaining Night Elves and Blood Elves have stuck together to survive, and although differences still divide them (Noldor and Vanyar), they have been interbred heavily. History becomes legend, legend becomes myth. People forget just what happened to wipe out Lordaeron, as nobody can bring themselves to really believe a crazy zombie story (Numenor) however, the survivors do eventually band together and rebuild as Gondor. Weird things get mixed in, people get confused with each other. Broxigar becomes Fingolfin, Sargeras gets mixed up with Illidan a bit and becomes Morgoth, Elune becomes Varda and is recognized as one of the Titans, the dwarves stay pretty much the same, the orcs get depressed and fall back under the control of the Legion (Sauron is a lieutenant, like Kil'Jaeden)...I could go on. There are SO many things. Like, someone clearly remembered that there were two very important trees, but not how or why or when, and that the separation of the Elves was caused by a civil war over control of magic. God, this is long. I should stop now.
Fingin: Class?Take a look at this guy. He's selling poisons and thieves' tools, and he's dressed like any given member of SI:7. But everyone knows draenei can't be rogues...right?
Tirion Fordring did a nice job breaking it when he destroyed Arthas' heartEveryone in the game thinks that Arthas is the Lich King. However, unbeknownst to them but beknownst to us, the current Lich King is actually a fusion of Arthas Menethil and Ner'zhul, the original Lich King. Arthas' heart contained the last remnants of his humanity and when Tirion destroyed it thinking that Arthas was beyond redemption, all hope of separating Arthas from the Lich King and redeeming him was lost instead.
The normally inaccessible dungeon located near Karazhan is, in fact, KarazhanUnder-Kara, as it's affectionately known, is an unfinished instance located near Karazhan. The normally inaccessible corridors are the darknest and bleakest corner of the game, bar none. The implications of the location names, particularly the Pauper's Walk, match up at least a little bit to the story of Karazhan in the Lore. Conclusion: This aborted dungeon is where the events of the lore actually took place, while the instance itself is a haunted re-imagining, a phantasmic conjuration by the spirits of the dead and Medivh based pon legends about the tower.
A future expansion, if not the immediate next one, will have at least some if not all central focus on the Naga.Think about it. What major Warcraft Big Bads are left? Onyxia, C'thun, and the rest of the endgame raid bosses were supposedly killed off in the original; Illidan, Kael'thas, and Vashj are all canon dead post-BC, along with the rest of the expansion enemies. WOTLK has already removed Kel'Thuzad (Naxxramas), Malygos (Eye of Eternity), and Yogg-Saron (Ulduar). The only major canon ones remaining in Northrend are Mal'Ganis and Arthas/Ner'zhul himself, both of which will probably get a raid each to themselves; removing Arthas will pretty much nuke the Scourge unless ONLY Arthas is killed and Ner'zhul somehow survives (or, perhaps the other way around, and the surviving Arthas portion escapes with what remains of The Lich King's power; either way he'll be out of commission for a while). The remaining major "world villains", unless some new superpower is created, are pretty much limited to the Black and Infinite Dragonflights, the other surviving Old Gods (if they wake up), Kil'Jaeden (this time at his full power, rather than poking his head halfway out of the Sunwell) and the Legion again, and Empress Azshara and the Naga. Coinciding with the theory above that the Southern portions of Azeroth, so far unhinted at and unexplored, will be the next place to travel, I think what will draw the attention of the world to that otherwise-ignored land is the sudden increase in activity from the Naga, suggesting a culmination of some plan by their Goddess. Possibly working with the Legion again, giving us both Azshara AND Killy to deal with. Also, prediciting now: If the Naga are indeed the central focus of the next expansion, the major gold sink will not be a "warm weather flying training" or anything like that, but rather Underwater Mounts. If it's gonna spend a lot of time on Naga, I predict a lot of swimming, so having mounts that up your swim speed and give you waterbreathing sounds like a pretty logical gold sink to me. You heard it here first. ;)
The world of Warcraft 3 is the past of the world of Dragon Age:Origins.I don't know the story of World of Warcraft, so I will ignore it here. But if you only consider the story of Warcraft 3, it makes sense. In Dragon Age: Origins, the Elves are somewhat enslaved by the humans and mourn about their long lost immortality. In Warcraft 3, we see both Night Elves and High/Blood Elves losing their immortality. And in Frozen Throne, we also see for the first time how Blood Elves are bullied around by humans (that is, by Lord Garithos' forces) and treated as some kind of disposable servants. If you project these developments into the future, you get exactly the human/elves relationship we have in Dragon Age:Origins. Also, the Scourge or the Burning Legion (or both) might be the equivalent of the Blight.
Ered'ruin/eredar connection.It's been noted that there's a marked resemblance. Hell, some doomguards even still have the catfish whiskers. But while most man'ari eredar in-game seem to share the same basic outline as draenei, doomguards have hunched postures and thinner, almost vestigial tails. So...the ered'ruin must have been those eredar who were reluctant to join the Burning Legion voluntarily, but who�for some inexplicable reason or another�were pressed into service (by decidedly nasty means) rather than just killed outright. As for the physical differences...they'd started mutating into Broken or something similar (since the "coercion" would have certainly involved fel energy) before they outright gave in. ("Ered'ruin" is an appropriate name; they're eredar that have been ruint.)
The planet, Azeroth, is named after an Old God.There are (supposedly/for now pending a retcon) five Old Gods. Three have been named, but "The Nightmare" is possibly just a nickname, or might not be an Old God in its own right but rather a servitor/herald/the effect of one's presence or manipulations. The other two have blatantly obvious references to Lovecraftian entities - C'Thun to Cthulhu, Yogg-Saron to Yog-Sothoth. From what I've seen, even people who aren't extremely familiar with Lovecraft still recognize some of the names and can peg them as Cthulhu-like in origin - notably those two plus Shub-Niggurath, Nyarlathotep, and Azathoth, in my experience, are easily the five most well known Lovecraftian horrors. Maybe toss in Dagon and/or Hast--! as well, if you like. Azathoth and Azeroth are too close for my liking. Furthermore, the Old Gods were imprisoned within the planet by the Titans, but couldn't be destroyed because their existence was bound to the world's. (Which makes me wonder what raid groups slaughtering everything in Ahn'Qiraj and Ulduar is doing to the stability of the world... see below.) Azathoth is the most powerful of his kind, but slumbers beyond reality and is all but mindless; an entity named Azeroth, if it was the most powerful of the Old Gods, would have the deepest prison - the planet's core - and it would make sense for the Titans to use its name to refer to its cell as well. On top of all this is a comment Yogg-Saron makes as he dies: he refers to Azeroth as "this meager little seedling". Perhaps the dying Old God is dropping a last-second gloating hint - that by destroying him (and C'Thun before, and any other Old Gods who break loose of their cells later) they are helping this "seedling" to grow and release the secrets hidden inside - essentially by defeating the other Old Gods, weakening Azeroth's (the theoretical Old God) prison of the planet of the same name? Food for thought.
The Old Gods are all a part of the same beingSo far we have C'thun, a giant eye, and Yogg-Saron, a giant mouth. I won't be surprised if this pattern continues.
The World of Warcraft is a Furry ParadiseJust think about how many animal-like humanoids there are: furbolgs and pandaren are ursine, harpies are avian, centaurs are equine, quilboars/razorfen are porcine, tauren are bovine, nerubians aren't quite humanoid but are sentient arachnids, the dryads and Keepers of the Grove are deer-like, the gnolls are hyena-like, and the murlocs are piscine. That's an awful lot of anthropomorphic animals. I think it likely that the Titans are anthropomorphic enthusiasts, being themselves of humanoid form and having created the Well of Eternity. I postulate that the latter resulted in the Hollywood Evolution of the anthropomorphic animal races.
Jaina/Thrall will never happen because of the Jainaric curse.That every man Jaina dates inevitably turns evil and demonic. Arthas? Now the Lich King. Kael'thas? Crazy demonic thrall thing. For the sake of Azerothian peace, they must keep hands off.
Azeroth's missing moon is OutlandYou have to admit, this one makes sense on SOME level. The basics are that Azeroth has (had?) two moons - The While lady (the moon you see ingame) and the Blue Child (the missing moon). During the Illidan encounter in the Black temple, you can clearly see◊ Azeroth, at a size that indicates that they are, at the very least, in the same solar system, and very very close, much closer than a two planets in our solar system. Is it not such a stretch to think that the reason that you can no longer see the Blue Child in the Azerothian night sky is because it has shattered and become to small to be discerned? Is it not a stretch to think that this missing satellite and this shattered world are one and the same?
The Corrupted Blood epidemic was no accidentIt was deliberately created to allow for scientific study of how people would react to an epidemic.
Hero units in the strategy games, as well as the faction leaders in World of Warcraft are so much larger than the ordinary members of their respective race because of a Waaagh fieldBasically, the more respect they earn from their allies (and to some extent, their enemies) the bigger they grow. This is also why grunts and footsoldiers are always slightly bigger than peons and workers ect.
Garrosh is such a hyper-aggressive Jerk Ass because there's a shard of Saronite lodged in his brain.This may sound like a really out-there theory, but think about it. What does exposure to saronite do, considering it's the hardened blood of an Old God? It causes aggression; the unwavering desire to fight and kill. Something Garrosh's no stranger to. And seeing as Garrosh loves to fight- when he gets the opportunity- it's possible that on a battlefield somewhere, a saronite arrow or blade got stuck in Garrosh's skull. He had the wound healed and taken care of discreetly so as not to look 'weak', but the healer could have made a mistake, as this IS a medieval-ish setting, and the wound never fully healed. Maybe a piece of saronite got stuck in his skull, and that much exposure to saronite on a regular basis is literally warping Garrosh's brain and actions. It explains everything.*
Sylvanas ordered the use of the new Plague at the Wrathgate.The whole thing was an Evil Plan in order to set up a war between the Alliance and Horde. Varimathras and Putress were acting under Sylvanas' orders when they started the coup de etat in the Undercity and unleashed the Plague in Northrend. She knew Varian would jump at the opportunity to try and reclaim Lordaeron for the Alliance, and went to Thrall for help. If the two leaders clashed, it would spark an all-out war, which would allow the Forsaken to begin their offensive and unleash the Plague on the Alliance without repercussion.
Arthas and Uther were related.
Turalyon and Alleria are on Argus.There was more than one dimensional gateway. And a paladin going where there are demons to kill? Who'd have thunk?
Pandarens forged Illidan's weapons
Draenor is another Titan made world.There were hints of this before Cataclysm, but things since have just sealed the deal more or less. For one, look at all the "natural" (as opposed to the supernatural elements) the two worlds have in common. There has been some cross contamination since the Dark Portal's opening. Look at the Hellboars for one. That doesn't explain everything. The Frostwolves were the Frostwolves before crossing the Dark Portal so Outland wolves are native. Now, look at the similar bird species, the arachnids, many of the mammals and reptiles. Reptiles in particular, the "raptors" of Outland have now been retconed as what normal raptors become when corrupted. Each world has their own native species too. Elekks, Talbuks, Ravagers are native to Draenor. Dragons appear to be native to Azeroth to some degree. Turn your heads to the more supernatural. Both Ragnaros and Cyrukh share the same title of Fire Lord and were summoned by the Cipher of Damnation. Cyrukh was Outland's equivalent to Ragnros. His easier kill can eitehr be chopped up to having more experience at this point (meaning Ragnaros would be equally easy to kill as his Molten Core self) or Cyrukh's summoning left him weaker. The latter is possible if you consider the circumstances. Gul'dan went into using the Cipher of Damnation knowing more about it and in a controlled setting. Thaurissian used it as a despartaion move and thus may have allowed Ragnaros more freedom/power than he would have had. Flayers and other elemental linked creatures that were only seen in a post-cataclysm Draenor (Outland) before now have appeared in this post-Cataclysm Azeroth. The Skettish were also summoning a C'thun like Old God on Draenor.
Lor'Themar will stage a successful coup, personally killing Garrosh and becoming the new leader of the Horde.Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
Anetheron, Detheroc and Dalvengyr are live.
The Old Gods are partially responsible for Azoroth's victories against the Burning LegionThink about it- Azeroth is the only known world in the universe of Warcraft to have sucessfully fought off not one but no less than three invasions by the Burning Legion, Titan made or otherwise. So what also sets this world apart from other worlds in this universe? The Old Gods, ancient horrors that are said to be powerful enough to force a large number of the Titans to unite just to seal them beneath the earth. Whats to say that the power of these ancient beings hasn't aided the inhabitants against these invaders?
Vashj caused the entire first half of the Blood Elf Campaign.Seriously, she was on full Magnificent Bastard mode. She knew more about the Blood Elves and Garithos than Kael had volunteered to anyone not in the Alliance, and knew that aiding Kael would drive a wedge between them. Therefor, she first destroyed the Goblin shipyard at Dalaran, knowing Kael needed to get across the lake (look at how she conveniently shows up with boats just as he arrives) and framed a small group of Ghouls for the action. Garithos begins to distrust Kael and withdraws all the Humans and Dwarves from his command, forcing him to rely on the Naga's aid during the second mission. Then she reveals the Blood Elve's magical addiction and immediately narrows their option to just Demons. She was doing it all from the start to force them into a corner that only serving Illidan could get them out of!
Either Nazgrim or Zaela will ultimately side with the rebellion and become the next Warchief.Considering Nazgrim's rise through the ranks as the expansions have gone by, becoming Warchief would be the logical conclusion, provided he understands the current situation well enough to turn coat on Garrosh before he himself is killed by Vol'jin's rebellion. Zaela, for her part, has turned against a tyrannical leader and taken his place once before and could do it again. Both seem to be firmly on Garrosh's side as of 5.3, but there's still time for one or both to have a change of heart. Also, they're probably as good as dead if they don't, and it would be a shame to lose both of them to this.
There might be the remakes of old Warcraft: Orcs and Humans, Tides Of Darkness and Beyond The Dark Portal, featuring updated graphics, sound and new features, similar to remakes of older Pokemon games.blonde sweetheart and the... well Sylvannas aint brunette but she's the Veronica and both were prominent acquaintances of Arthas. One was his old girlfriend while the other played hard to get. He stuck long hard objects into both of them. It was their respective first times. They both thought about him every day for years afterwards. He kept personal mementos from both on his person up until his death. Srsly gais. This is shipping 101. It's also quite possibly the most horrifying thing I have ever typed.
Azeroth is the last world not yet conquered by the Legion.Take a close look at Azeroth. It's a world with loads and loads of heroes, to the point of most of them (the PCs) being unsung despite saving the day numerous times - either due to the low bard-to-hero ratio, or because the sung ones are even more powerful and heroic. The origins of most heroes are tied to the Titans in one way or another. The core of the world holds a number of Eldritch Abominations which don't seem too keen on sharing Azeroth with some alien demons. And these terrifyingly powerful Old Gods, Elemental Lords and other assorted monstrosities are no longer held in check by the Titans, but stopped in their tracks by the mere mortals mentioned earlier. And this is not the Legion's first attempt at invading Azeroth - the Third War took place ten thousand years after their first, failed invasion. Over that time, they tried to infiltrate the world and break down its defenses, and encountered resistance on every step - both from the Night Elves and the Guardians of Tirisfal. Draenor, the world previously invaded by the Legion, is effectively a bunch of blasted, dying rocks floating in the Nether. The remnants of its inhabitants mostly fled to Azeroth and allied themselves with the locals, rather than staying isolated and beating each other into extinction while stranded on Draenor's rotting husk. The only other aliens we have seen so far are creatures of the Nether and Legion's demons. For all we know, even the Titans might no longer exist. Just think: at this point, Azeroth is probably the only planet in the entire universe which is neither a dead rock nor a Legion hellhole. Iron Horde!Draenor from Warlords doesn't really count, since it's both in an alternative universe and in the past.


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I believe Romney will win this election handily, that being said, it won't be over till it's over, because the Electoral College really has the final say so. I predict the Democrats will refuse to allocate electoral votes to Romney when push comes to shove, most likely at the behest of the Obama machine. They will do anything to stay in power.


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Oh come on, I can't be the only one who sees anything wrong with it. :?
Um... Mountain range is one word in your legend. I think the white stroke around many of your labels is a little overwhelming, especially the gray ones.
Other than that, it's a thing of beauty.
I am tempted to thnk that the symbolic complexity is too great, but there is no reason to assume that the human capacity to interpret symbols will remain the same into the future. After all, in St. Augustine's time, it was not commonplace for even a highly educated person to be able to read silently. (At one point in his Confessions, Augustine expresses surprise that one of his colleagues can read without saying the words aloud--the man was still moving his lips, though.) So it seems likely that human mental function might change to accommodate the huge number of signs and symbols we are generating today.
Thank you, good critique!
This is meant for print, so the white stroke might or might not need adjustment. What we see on screens is often very deceptive. But I will make sure I check it at print.
By lots of symbols, I can only guess you mean the color-coded route lines? Yeh, they got me a little confused, too. I'm not even sure all of them exist on the map! (LOL, a legend showing stuff that's not on the map ... but maybe those routes existed on a previous edition ... yeh that's the story I'm sticking with.) The city symbols are only three, so that's hardly a burden. Most modern maps have at least that many city symbols alone, with various size/color dots, stars, rings, squares, etc. I love loading symbols/icon onto maps, so I guess I should try to practice a little bit of restraint from now on in my ravenous (raving) cartophilia.
And I did that on purpose, probs cuz I'm so aware of the tendency of English's ancestors and cousins to agglutinate. I wish English did it more. I am overcompensating, probs.Quote:
Mountain range is one word in your legend.
Ah. Well, at least you didn't shorten it to Morange (rhymes with orange). I'd be tempted to think you a Brit. Are they really in such a hurry that they can't take the time to say "West Saxony?"
OK - I'll try to be critical :)
- The border of P. Ishtar Terra doesn't line up with its neighbours.
- The area borders don't really make sense on a sphere - they are very grid oriented.
- In P. Grand Tethus, the purple lines are lost in the bg.
- In the middle of P. Idmir I think "Slates" should be "States" (typo)
- Are E and W reversed? (does Venus rotate the other way? and does trhat make difference... is sunrise to the E always?) Specifically, P. Lavina E and W...
But it is a really nice map. I love map/diagrams and really like transit maps.
-Rob A>
But it would be so good to finally have a word to rhyme with orange!
"I wandered lonely, picking oranges,
On the slopes of Venusian moranges."
I definitely think we should be promoting this idea...:D
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- The border of P. Ishtar Terra doesn't line up with its neighbours.
Yes, well, various explanations for that, the obvious one being that I wasn't working on a sphere but on a Mercator. But maybe so were the people in charge of parcelling. Anyway, latitude and longitude are grids, after all.Quote:
- The area borders don't really make sense on a sphere - they are very grid oriented.
Point. I adjusted it. BTW, I forced myself to use the Four-Color Map Theorem ... and it actually works! but it's not easy.Quote:
- In P. Grand Tethus, the purple lines are lost in the bg.
I meant slates, but if it looks like a typo then it has to change. I went to change it to SUBSLATES, but I typed SUBLATES by mistake and that looks very cool, like a CLVIIth century "sub lease" (although what I really meant was more like an annexation or hostile takeover).Quote:
- In the middle of P. Idmir I think "Slates" should be "States" (typo)
I have no clue what I was thinking there. I fixed it. Venus's rotation is actually longer than it's year, btw. I figured they would just use the Earth orientation. How horrible would it be to have to learn a new compass on every planet you visit?Quote:
- Are E and W reversed? (does Venus rotate the other way? and does trhat make difference... is sunrise to the E always?) Specifically, P. Lavina E and W...
Good calls! Thank you!
'Morange' to rhyme with 'orange' just doesn't sound right for mountain range. I keep hearing "MOE-reynj."
The white outlines were a little heavy and print and I toned them down.
Should I post an update? (LOL, here in the Finished Map area).


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But the islands are not only about sea and sand. The Seychelles offers a measured, peaceful way of life and offers a sanctuary from the pressures of modern city life, with its people live close to their roots and offer a warm welcome. The Seychelles also has half its area set aside as natural reserves, including 2 UNESCO heritage sites. These are Aldabra, the world's largest raised coral atoll, and Praslin's Valee de Mai where the Coco-de-Mer grows in a primeval valley.
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Kicking at 10 weeks?
This is my fourth child and I am "suppose" to be 10 weeks along but, however, when I push on my tummy I can feel where the baby is and it will kick back. Not tap but kick back. There is NO way I can only be 10 weeks can I? I must of had a couple periods during my first trimester, yes? I have been declared significantly anemic already.
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I am 10 weeks as well with my fourth child and was wondering the same thing myself. Thought i might be crazy! But now that i have read all your expierences i don't anymore. I am not sure if it is the kicking i feel or just the baby moving around.posted 10/18/2007 by a BabyCenter Member
I highly doubt you are 10 weeks pregnant. I am on my 3rd baby and I am "supposed" to be 10 weeks pregnant. I feel the fluttering of the baby, but a real kick...?you should get an ultrasound. I can tell you that my mother had her cycle until she was 5 months pregnant with me. It is possible that you may be further along than thought.posted 10/17/2007 by Shaydab
thanks too all the moms i know that i am not crazy but my doctor was trying to not laugh at me but i trust my self enough and know my body i know thats my baby kicking and not gas this is my 3rd child i belive your uterus is more highly sensitve when you have had more than one kid anywaysposted 10/17/2007 by a BabyCenter Member
I felt my baby move at 11 weeks. It just felt like having butterflies but in my uterus not my stomach. I am lactose intolerant so I know what gas feels like and it was not gas! It does not happen much, just when I am sitting or lying down very still. It was very exciting thee first time, it made it seem so real!posted 10/16/2007 by RayIsom
Yep, it's a baby... I felt the first flutters at 7 1/2 weeks, not gas (easy to tell between that and a baby). This is my second.posted 10/14/2007 by mskrystle
I'm ten weeks with my 4th baby I definatly can feel my baby bouncing around in there saraposted 10/13/2007 by a BabyCenter Member
i must agree. i am now 9 wks 6 days (with my 2nd child-4th pregnancy)and i definatly felt the baby 3 days ago! because i am a belly sleeper-i was laying kind of on my belly, but on my side at the same time, i felt the baby moving almost like it was uncomforatble to be in that position. the fact that i had a gymnast with my first child (she litterally did flips! haha) and having i.b.s.-im pretty sure i know what 'gas' feels like and this definately wasn't it. it was only faint...but enough to feel it for a good while. so, yes, i agree! its so exciting! -sarahposted 10/12/2007 by sstevey
I don't think that's impossible, my sister and I are both on our second children and we both started feeling the little guys around 12 weeks. Which was astonishing for me since my first child didn't start kicking till about 24 weeks.posted 10/12/2007 by MandyJane106
I am 10 weeks pregnant too and it's my 4th baby im only 22 years old but i feel the same sometimes i feel my baby's moving and i think that it's probably because it's my fourth child and i already know how it feel and first i tought i was more than 2 months but i think now that it's pobably cuz i just know how it feels.posted 10/10/2007 by a BabyCenter Member
Now you have me wondering! I am 10 weeks (3rd child) and felt the same thing yesterday. I passed it off as gas. I told my husband about your message and all the responses, and he is torn. He said it might be a muscle spasm. Anything's possible, but I'm going to tell myselft that it was the baby cuz that's a cooler answer! :) Angieposted 10/09/2007 by AngNbaby
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If you're like me, you reacted with great trepidation to the news that Carrie Underwood was going to star in a live televised production of "The Sound of Music," a sentimental favorite for baby boomers and beyond.
But advance press announced that this special holiday offering would be based on the original Broadway stage production, which was a particular treat to this musical fanatic; I grew up listening to my parents' Mary Martin-starring "Sound of Music" soundtrack record on their giant console record player in the living room. I staged elaborate re-creations of "So Long, Farewell" with my neighborhood friends, I can sing the complicated middle section of "Do-Re-Mi" with aplomb, and I know all the verses to "My Favorite Things." I learned to yodel like a goatherd before I was five, and almost burst a blood vessel belting out "Climb Ev'ry Mountain" with extra Reverend-Mother vibrato. (I even know how to solve a problem like Maria.)
Let's face it: There was no way I was missing it. They had me at "The hills are alive…"
But social media blew up with indignation at the audacity of such an undertaking, generally citing the fact that the beloved 1965 movie, starring the incomparable Julie Andrews, is "iconic" and therefore should not be tarnished by a potentially disappointing remake.
But what is really meant by "iconic"? By definition, a cultural icon is an image, person, place or work of art that is easily recognized and has great cultural significance to a wide group of people. For example, a couple of weeks ago, Norman Rockwell's "Saying Grace" painting sold for a record $46 million. I think it's safe to say that the renowned Saturday Evening Post illustrator has earned his designation as an "American Icon."
However, nowadays people like to throw around the word "iconic" with cavalier frequency. In the media, many well-known examples of popular culture have been called "iconic" just by virtue of being amazing (another overused word, but that's a topic for another day). For example, if you do an Internet search on the words "iconic breaking bad," you will come up with "The 17 Most Iconic Scenes in Breaking Bad," "The Iconic Imagery of Breaking Bad," "Twelve Iconic Breaking Bad Props You Can Actually Own," "How Did the Breaking Bad Finale Compare to Other Iconic Show Endings?" and "Walt's 10 Most Iconic Moments." And that's just the first few listings. It's a great show—maybe the Greatest Show—but that's a lot of "cultural significance" to attribute to a single television series.
So what makes a person/performance/movie/TV show "iconic"? Perhaps a suitable qualifier would be whether its evocative power stands the test of time: Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, Jimmy Stewart, the "Hollywood" sign, and Mount Rushmore are American icons. Whitney Houston's rendition of "I Will Always Love You" is an iconic performance…but I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the charms of "Gangnam Style" and "What Does the Fox Say?" will eventually fade.
Is "The Sound of Music" iconic? Absolutely. But to me, that doesn't mean it should be perched on a shelf to collect dust. Sure, the Carrie Underwood version had its flaws, and the critics (both professional and self-appointed) had a ball lambasting the acting. But if you were to judge the production by the accompanying enthusiastic, off-key sing-along performance that took place on my couch, or a popular high school production of the musical, or yes, even a backyard childhood staging of "So Long, Farewell"—it would be apparent that some icons can hold up to a little tarnish…and emerge better than ever.


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When I built my system a few months ago I had a Celeron G540 and I thought the Intel HD Graphics 1000 was pretty decent. When the i3-2105 was $25 off at Newegg I bought it because it has Intel HD Graphics 3000 and I thought it'd be better. The CPU is much better but the graphics seems to be the same.
My sis saw me leaning forward to read the text and mentioned it. I didn't realize I was doing that but I thought my 17" monitor was too small. It turned out that the text is somewhat blurry so I ordered a Sapphire HD 6670 video card and a Seasonic 550w Bronze because I wasn't sure if my Corsair CX430 will handle more wattage. I'm playing it safe.
Got the stuff today and installed them. Blew me away, good lord! The text is lot easier to see and the video's much better as I can see more detail.
So the Intel HD Graphics is that bad? Jeez.
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For 2D stuff like what you're talking about, onboard video like that should be more than good enough and clear enough. Blurry text is usually a sign that the monitor is not in its Native Resolution.
Also, the CX430 would have been major overkill for this video card.
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The monitor is at native resolution.
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I guess it could have been settings that needed to be set in the control panel for the Intel graphics, but I don't really know for sure.
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Might have been that cleartype was not being used. I don't know if this was due to the integrated graphics, but I am glad your new card fixed it for ya.
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Trust me, everything possible was done, clear type, graphics control panel and a look in the tutorials for a clue. What I could've done was to increase the text size and it'll probably read better but does nothing for videos.
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Between the SOPA bill and Defense Authorization Act…I have lost all faith in Congress.
I don't want either of these bills to be something we look at after it's passed, only to realize how horrible they are…
But I honestly don't know what to do…
Remember when Dennis Kucinich presented 35 articles of impeachment against George Bush, partially for the Patriot Act and other infringements upon very basic civil liberties? The Patriot Act wishes it was NDAA '12 and SOPA. Dennis didn't get anywhere with his impeachment because he brought it to the House much too late and let's be honest, Bush wasn't going to get impeached. However, there is a very decent discussion to be had about whether the acts in question were indeed impeachable offenses. The discussions I've seen amongst constitutional law scholars weren't centered around if the infringements upon civil liberties were impeachable but if an impeachment was likely to be successful.
In my opinion, the proposals set forth in these two bills present such grave violations of our most basic rights guaranteed by the Constitution that each individual who voted in favor of them or will eventually vote in favor of them should be thrown out of office immediately. Since that's not going to happen, we can only hope that our courts can get it right and strike down the horrific provisions set forth in these bills. Even though our upper level courts tend to be a bit more conservative, I don't see the contestable portions of these bills holding up upon review. No. Way.
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CHARLES TOWN – A federal judge has granted a motion for summary judgment in favor of the Department of Health and Human Resources in the case of an area woman whose children were seized by Berkeley County Child Protective Services after it was learned that one of them had fallen behind on immunizations.
[cleeng_content id="751697390" description="Read it now!" price="0.49" t="article"]In 2009, two of the biological children of Ranson resident Amanda Underwood, along with her stepchild, were seized in 2009 following anonymous reports of abuse. Though a subsequent CPS investigation concluded that the allegations were unfounded and rated the household in the lowest category of risk for abuse and neglect, a subsequent investigation found that one child was behind on scheduled immunizations.
It was on that basis that Circuit Judge John Yoder agreed to sign an order granting temporary custody of the children to the DHHR. Underwood later agreed to plead guilty to medically neglecting her children, though she says she was under duress, not having seen her children in weeks and believing the only way she could see them again was to plead guilty.
Federal Judge Joseph Goodwin's opinion rested primarily on federal deference to state court judgments on issues involving state law, federal immunity granted to state officials acting in an official capacity and the timing with which complaints of legal and constitutional violation were raised.
Last month, Underwood filed a notice of appeal with the Fourth Circuit of Appeals. Neither Underwood's attorney nor attorneys for the DHHR could be reached.
Goodwin ruled that most of Underwood's claims against the DHHR were barred by the immunity of state governments from suit in federal court contained in the 11th Amendment.
Goodwin also found that Underwood's claims of due process violations were precluded from federal review since the Supreme Court of Appeals had already ruled that they were not violated. Federal courts often defer to the judgement of state courts on matters of state law. The state Supreme Court's ruling had reversed an earlier ruling by Yoder that Underwood's due process rights had been violated by the DHHR, while upholding the termination.
As the Spirit previously documented, parents appealing custody terminations in West Virginia have an extremely low success rate, with only 1.3 percent of terminations being reversed in 2011. Further, oral arguments were heard by the court in only 2.6 percent of such cases, with the rest being denied in brief memorandum decisions, most of which contain passages that are identical between many different cases. The decision in Underwood's case was a memorandum decision.
Goodwin further declined to apply the "public interest exception" to the doctrine of deferring to state court rulings when state laws are at issue.
While he noted several issues he called "very concerning" – including that Underwood was not informed of, present for or represented by counsel at the original removal hearing; that there was never a finding that the children were in imminent danger; that she was never informed of or waived her right to a preliminary hearing; and that the children were taken back into custody without a hearing – he said they were "not enough for me to disturb the considered judgment of [the state Supreme Court.]"
Goodwin also dismissed Underwood's Fourth Amendment claims against CPS caseworker Mary Carper, finding that the right to protection from unreasonable search and seizure did not apply to the seizure of children.
"To the extent Underwood claims harm from her children being taken into allegedly illegal custody and unable to leave [DHHR] custody, this claim fails as a matter of law. The Fourth Amendment right to be free from unreasonable government seizures is a personal one," Goodwin wrote, citing precedent stating that fourth amendment rights are "personal rights" that she could not assert on her children's behalf.
"If Underwood intended to state a claim that her Fourth Amendment rights were violated by Carper's threat of arrest, this claim fails because Underwood was not seized," he concluded.
Goodwin also dismissed Underwood's claim that the DHHR is in violation of a consent decree arising from the case of Gibson v. Ginsberg, a 1979 class action lawsuit filed against the Department of Welfare, the DHHR's precursor. He affirmed the prior ruling of a federal judge that the consent did not apply to Underwood's case since the children were not yet born in 1979, when the case occurred.
Underwood had also challenged the constitutionality of the state's abuse and neglect statutes both on their face and as applied in her case, since there had never been a finding that she was an unfit parent and that the only basis for finding that the children had been neglected was her decision to plead guilty to medical neglect.
"Whether or not any particular act of a parent meets the requirements of abuse and neglect is a legal determination to be made by the court, not the parent, particularly a parent who is under duress due to the removal of her children by the state," her complaint argued.
Goodwin found that the statute is constitutional because it "requires clear and convincing evidence to support a finding that a child is abused or neglected."
He also ruled that Underwood's decision to plead guilty had removed the state's burden to prove that abuse or neglect had taken place, and that the seizure was therefore constitutional.
"[The DHHR] did not introduce evidence that Underwood failed to vaccinate her children for some reason other than a lack of financial means because Underwood did not assert her due process rights in this hearing," Goodwin wrote.
Goodwin also dismissed Underwood's claim that several DHHR employees had negligently and wantonly inflicted emotional distress, deferring to the decision of the State Supreme Court.
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