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Obviously, you were ignorant and driving pretty recklessly (trying to have fun?).
Now, everything (bad) that happened to you is suddenly India's fault and/or problem.
Get a life!
Mr. Sheth writes: "our auto-rickshaw lost control".
That's a complete distortion of the truth. The DRIVER (Mr. Sheth?)lost control.
I don't understand your bitching and moaning with every blog entry.
You decide to travel from Chennai to Mumbai in a rickshaw Have you an IQ of a donut. That is the most ridiculous idea.
Then you have a minor accident in some small village and you start complaining about the medical facilities. WTF were you expecting – Mayo Clinic?
For you and your fellow travellers I hope you make it safely to Mumbai and then take the first flight out of India.
We dont need people like you with a deathwish mistaking it for adventurism.
The WSJ needs to rethink it's hiring policies. I'm surprised they have hired someone with apparently no commonsense whatsoever. Shame on you for endangering your friend's life.
Don't they know about birth control over there?
I am an Indian and have been living in the US for the last 35 years. I am ashamed and disappointed in the comments made by others that have come down very hard on Niraj for explaining his experience.
I go to India every year to visit the family and I am terrified of road travel. No one obeys any traffic laws and it is extremely dangerous to travel on the roads especially if it is raining.
born and brought up in India, I know autos are not the safest by any means. but they are probably the most practical vehicle for what needs they serve in a indian city. Medicine still is accesible even in remote areas, not just western medicine, but also ayurvedic, haemopathic thrive. so stop trying to make a useless point. deprecating things you don't understand doesn't make this article worth WSJ. having said that there are scores of things India needs to improve, but not what you seem to be pointing out in this article, based on your experience in remote village
Hey, stop with the criticism here!!!! I am learning just as much about the realities of Asia reading this article as I am watching the Beijing Olympics.
Bravo on following through on such an interesting concept!
Matt from Tampa
-Safe travels
Indians are the most defensive race in the world. Every trip to India is a frickin life threatening exercise and traveling by road is a death defying ordeal. Medical facilities outside the major cities is a joke – and value for life is non existent. A true third world country with delusions of grandeur.
Wow, I'm continually amazed by the blanket statements everyone loves to make here. Why waste your time reading something like this if you already have such strong opinions one way or the other?
Traveling in India is certainly extremely dangerous. India has the highest traffic related deaths in the world-about 3 times as much as in China. India still does not have a mature infrastructure for tourism with no affordable 3-star, 4-star hotels. A hotel I stayed in Bombay cost me $100 a night, yet it came with leaky showers, bad food, unfriendly staff and bad toilets (refused to flush several times). Traveling in India is not for the faint of heart.
Dude… all you got was a sprained knee and your friend ('who had it worse') suffered from what is essentially relatively minor injuries (a gashed ear lobe and cuts on his arm)… If I were the doctor and you woke me up on a Sunday morning for this, I would yawn too.
btw, you should be up for a Darwin
"affordable 3-star, 4-star hotels" is an oxymoron from the perspective of 99% of the world's population.
Wow, that's a lot of passion in the comments section. Here's what I gather from the blog post:
1) Auto-Rickshaws are not exactly good off-road SUVs, and that's obvious from just looking at one. They look to be economical transportation for crowded inner-cities. As such, when you combine hills, mud, and rain, with an auto-rickshaw, then it's a dangerous situation. So far so good? Sound reasonable?
2) While I think an earlier commenter when overboard with it, I do agree that the phrase "our auto-rickshaw lost control" is a little odd. It's like the child who knocks his milk over, and then says "it spilled," as if it happened all by itself. The rickshaw crashed due to driver error.
3) Have to admit that the clinic, as described by Niraj, sounds pretty bad. Not just lack of facilities, but bad attitude and bad medical practices. But of course, we only have his perspective to go on here. Maybe someone else would see it differently.
4) Niraj stated that it wasn't but 5 minutes after the crash until 12 other rickshaw drivers stopped to help, administered some first aid, and then rushing them to the hospital. That's impressive, kind, and generous on the part of those total strangers. Niraj loses a point for not taking note of that.
Chennai to Mumbai is almost the distance from New York to Indianapolis about 700 miles
Not a good idea doing the trip an autorickshaw – I dont think its a reflection on road safety in India – its the Monsoons in India now – should have chosen a better time of the yr for this adventure
As for "AmusedinSoCal" – quit the condescending attitude my brother open yr "amused" eyes – India and China are rising powers — wait another 50 yrs and we'll see who will be amused at who's state and condition
To KK,
Here we go again. Why are you being so defensive? India has horrendous infrastructure and zero value for human life. Thousands of people die every year in avoidable crashes and yet no one does anything meaningful. I was in Mumbai a couple of years ago during rainy season and it was a wretched sight.
Instead of being so defensive why not look outside your window and curse your fate. And look both ways before you cross the street since a rickshaw might run you over.
To SK,
I have been to China and India and to even speak of the 2 countries in the same breath is laughable. China is miles ahead in every aspect except IT and is a much more prosperous. I have yet to see rice farmers in China commit suicide in the 21st century. India is basically a backward country with a few modern cities. And great food – I will give you that.
If you want tourists and business travelers in the droves who spend decent amounts of money, you need 3-star, 4-star hotel rooms in abundance. That is the standard. The whole of India has less number of rooms than just Beijing or Shanghai. I found a way out though. I shifted my asia procurement office to Shanghai from Bombay.
And who are you to define what "backward" is? Yes India dreams of grandeur (we got our first Olympic gold today:)]
India was a country colonized by the British till 1947 – what do you expect 5 star hotels and comfort to yr taste all around… In a matter of 60 yrs the country has come far… its just a matter of time and change will not happen overnight bearing in mind the enormous population.
China's infrastructure may be better now – but they have a difft system of governance… And change will come – and though I am in the US now I am very happy whenever I return to India and don't ever have to "curse" my fate — you on the other hand should thank god you were born in the US in a good time
Infrastructure building requires capital and labor and a decent return on investment for the investors. I dont understand any of your view points. Hong Kong was under British rule as well, so were other countries. It is ridiculous for you to blame India's woes on the British. That is certainly a distorted viewpoint, if ever there was one. Have you heard of the slogan "you build, they will come"?
I am not drawing up any comparisons – India has its shortfalls – maybe has not done as well as China till now — no argument there; but I don't see a point in just complaining about the infrastructure which is not there – there is eco change underway in India and things will happen at their pace – just saying India "stinks" "is a f#c#ed up" place might get you off but is an even greater distortion of the reality —
And there was no attempt to blame the British or anyone for India's "woes" – ppl will always see what they want to see – and I hope other Indians out there reading this stuff – take a moment to realise: if each one of us can be good at wht evr we do in the next 20/30/40/50 yrs – for our lifetimes – and hold on to our roots in India – we will not see another blog like this one – where we appear "defensive" and have to listen to others how the country "stinks" – Do yr part boys Jai Hind!
Hey..India is far behind in infrastructure (Transportation and Health) compared to European/North American countries. Thats an inevitable truth at this point of time. Keeping all other aspects of this article aside, this fact should be faced honestly. Thats the best attitude for India —Face the situation, learn and overcome the problems..
- Indian.
India is a free country. you can travel in an autorickshaw and talk about it endlessly. i dont think there is anybody in india who do not accept the fact that we have these problems. But our scale of problems are big.
but remmember, 50 years ago we were somalia with famine. it is a big difference in 50 years. Let us wait and see the next 50 years and see who will be taking autorickshaw where.
To move from mumbai to chennai. there are two routes. The golden quadrilateral which connects the three cities are as good as I80.
But the author deliberately took the route through Goa. This route that i took last year is difficult even in a 4 wheel drive so i can imagine the drive in a auto rickshaw.
I wish good luck to Niraj, and congratulate him for taking on this challenge. A Journey even a sane Indian would not attempt.
Niraj, why look at a glass half empty? People helped you get to a hospital. The doctor treated you in spite it being Sunday, and all for for $43. You and your friend are alive and kicking. So learn to look at that half of the glass which is full and you will enjoy India along with its quirks.
That's our India young lad, had u been in some other country, your epitaph would have read thus…Here lies an American Born Confused Desi – ABCD-. Rest in peace lad
AmusedinSoCal is funny "I have been to China and India" – how wonderful – mind you he is an authority – a real connoisseur for the high life. knows a stinker when he sees one. India is one of course for his majesty. also knows a business opportunity when he sees one -so will not miss a beat to visit India, though a stinking toilet and never up to his class or standards. Gawd plz deliver us!
India is a rather primitive country.
India is not primitve…people who visit her are!!!definitely are….
I would like to hear about an auto-rickshaw trip from NYC to Indy in winter with foreign nationals behind the wheel. And try to get medical care without insurance for $43!
It really beats me why would one go in for a 3-wheeler for such a ride – clearly, he was looking for adventure and a story – and he got it – but the fact that WSJ syndicated this stuff and even thought it worthwhile to put it up? – well, makes me wonder and strengthens my observation that the US press is quite unidimensional – just looks at things from one perspective – the US one – us versus the rest.
Agree India is behind in infrastructure…but take this problem to people who can make it right and stop bickering about ti to people who like yoho says is "looking at things from one perspective". No offense…but these are people who do not even know where India is on a world map….all they know are that there are elephants and cows in Inida…so stop putting her down for no reason…..take your problems elsewhere!!!!
Are we all reading the same article? They took a trip, they had an accident, they wrote about it.
Look how hypocrites we Indians are? Some one want to tell the reality what happened to them. We always defend patriotically every thing even it is wrong some times. We never even try to correct our mistakes. Do you guys think we will progress into future with these kinds of comments? I don't think so.
Your experience is nice. Well it can happen…
I am glad I switched my subscription to FT from right wing xenophobic WSJ. Auto rickshaw is meant for transportation within the city and it is rare and unsafe to be driven on the highways (at least in northern India).
Good story, brought back vivid memories of visits to India in the 70′s and 80′s. I'm very surprised how badly many Indians are taking news about the everyday life in their country.
India is a tale of 2 cities. Poverty is rampant in the villages and prosperity thrives in mega buisness areas. We have the BEST universities in India (Indian Institute of Technogy referred to as IIT)and the BEST medical schools, but we also have the not so good insitutes. The infrastructure is being improved upon. The British left India as a divided country and struggling in povery. Travelling in a RICKSHAW in India for long distances is I am afraid beyond being STUPID. You received help from total strangers and received medical care even in a remote village. I fail to understand what you wish to convey by your article, most tourist would never imagine a journey like that even in USA. I suggest you look in the MIRROR if you want someone to blame. Next time try Palace on Wheels if you want to see the RICH India.
Travelling in an autorickshaw from Chennai to Mumbai is not an "everyday life in India".
I agree with AA, take your problem to people who should deal with it.
A very good story. On balance it appeared to be written with even-handed reporting about good and bad practices and decisions. Forget that the events in the hospital were preceded by a ricksaw accident- local medical attention was needed for relatively minor injuries, plain and simple. I gather that the author's intent was to focus the reader's intention on the state of local healthcare and the attitudes of the caregivers. I found the closing remark chilling: "On the way out, I caught his eye again. He smiled, eyes twinkling. They seemed to be saying: this is India. There won't always be someone watching." In the United States government oversight and regulation is being relaxed and dismantled in the name of "efficiency and cost saving". Let's not relax our guard too much or we'll be commenting similarly about the state of affairs in the U.S.
Based on many of the comments it seems that as long as what is described/reported presents the country in a good light everybody is happy but as soon as the truth comes out it becomes insulting.
AmusedinSoCal, Just look up and thank your fate you were born wherever you were and not in India..its by no means something you have done that you deserve it though ..just a thought….and don't be so confident …you never know what your fate holds for you tomorrow…:)
And obviously if you are in this country…and if you are not a native Indian, you must have fled yours for reasons similar to what you mentioned about in India?? or atleast to take shelter from the shellings???hmm…just wondering
WOW this is sad. There seem to be so many defensive people here about India. Assuming the article is factual what is the problem? Is it unacceptable to write an article which accuratly reflects life in India?
Man, the peanut gallery seems to be in quite the mood! Easy to hurl insults from the easy chair in front of the computer.
Anyway, I've spend a little time on the back roads of India too (in a tiny little van, not an auto rickshaw!). I can attest that some of the roads and driving practices seemed dangerous. But rickshaws are very common on the road, so I don't understand why people are saying it's an inappropriate way to travel. We all know the easy way is to fly, but so what? You certainly don't see the people you fly over.
Congrats on making the cover of WSJ.com with your burning rickshaw! Glad you guys are ok!
Oh, my! All you Indians reading this article and getting so upset: Go home and write something terrible about the US. You will anyway.
I'm surprised that the WSJ would print what is essentially a "drain inspector's report"–essentially useless other than to highlinght some dirt in India. It's like an Indian paper running a report on a drug-dealing pimp in Detroit shooting a prostitute and correctly pointing out that it is a common daily occurance in America. Thankfully, they have better things to do.
For crying out loud be careful. Life is fragile and death is everywhere not just India. I hope Mr. Hannes recovers without too much pain. Be safe.
Seems pretty straightforward and not unusual. You drove too fast in the rain in a rickety vehicle and crashed. As you would expect, the medical facilities in rural India are not perfect. Why would you expect anything different?
Niraj should have pointed out that the rusted plate for keeping medical tools was nicely rusted with traditional indian motifs. And, thank to natural immunity, Indians do not need real medical care and antiseptics. The toughness of the old woman proves the point. It is an old and proud culture for good reason.
For you defensive types, do not defend, instead boast of the off-road driving experience awaiting those on the road. It is just a fun fun place, where even the apparently very poor are having loads of fun.
Way to go Niraj and Hannes.
Hi Niraj,
Sorry to say, but u seems to be very poor in statistics and a guy who is in rush of concluding things.
Based on one unit – one should not pass a judgement/ view on whole population. Rather, you must thanks that doctor that your friend is still fine.
The best part is you guys still got treatment on Sunday…and I have heard in US it is next to imposible to get service of some one when he is enjoying holiday.
Atleast even in rural India you were able to get healthcare, the quality needs improving, but atleast there is a hospital. My friend's father, who was visiting Chicago from India, had a brain seizure on his trip here…guess what his medical bills are $500,000, as he didn't have any health insurance. I'm not sure which situation is worse…? A third world country (as you call it), with limited facilities or a progressive country that will leave you in bankruptcy for providing health care.
India ia basically Debt free contry. Every house, small business is 100% owned. Please see news bankrupt businesses in China.
Slow and steady….
If india get out of religeous fights…no match. I ran a US company in India and China so I know…
India have long ways to go but is on right path
I would love to see the IP addresses of most of the harsh commenters. I bet 90% of them are in the US, and have lived there for 25 years. From their perspective, they don't want someone to spoil the India party that's happening worldwide right now, because then they don't get the reflected glory.
For those ABCD's who currently live in India, we know a bit better. There is a huge middle ground between "India shining" and "India boiling". The fact that one of us went out to explore it by rickshaw is bold and interesting. The fact that he and his companion had an accident is tragic, and the fact that they're ok because of local villagers is fantastic. The fact that most commenters are actively wishing him ill on this blog is horrific. As we say in Texas (home of a huge diaspora community) y'all are pathetic.
Pathetic to see my fellow Indians crawling over themselves to defend India's faults. India will get ahead? Maybe if you're looking at overall GDP – even then it will be 3rd by 2050.
There is no control over population and limited efforts toward liberalizing public corporations.
Add to that, anti-Indian parties such as Communists who are able to harm India by gaining seats.
And then some point out – oh well, China's a dictatorship and we're a democracy which makes us better. Even more reason for shame considering that China's dictatorial gov't has put China leagues ahead of pathetic India.
Indians are good. The top cities are amazing – Gurgaon is as developed, if not more so, than other hot spots in the world, but the vast majority of India sucks ass.
Mr. Sheth's article is amusing, but not necessarily enlightning. The observations are of someone who came for an "experience" (riding the auto) but it turned out to be quite a different experience. For anyone born and brought up there none of the observations made by Mr.Sheth are new, and so are the array of commentary its has engendered. Facts are that lack of infrastructure, and our general propensity not to follow rules make driving/riding equivalent to a monstor thrill ride in local US 6 flags. If you pay for it you can actually get very affordable (by US standards) and caring health care in India: you get what you pay for. If you want to free ride, the quality will match that. And yes, we blame the British for everything thats wrong with us. And yet, as individuals inspite of all these ills, we have acheived tremendous success, fame and prosperity. When put to test, even as a team a bunch of illiterate tiffinwallahs (a HBS case I hear) operate a six sigma operation: go figure.
I fail to see the point behind this whole series. As has been pointed out by other commentors, traveling so far a distance by autorickshaw is obviously not the most wise choice of transportation. Secondly, based on the own author's description of the area where the accident took place, such lack of medical facilites isn't at all surprising. If the intent of the blog was truly to get a taste of the growing push toward "modernity" in a developing nation, the choice the author made in planning his trip seems very ill-advised and was bound to bring up the biases that are rife within the entry. Being an American that has traveled extensively throughout south Asia, I readily agree that there are – especially in rural areas – a large deficiency in terms of infrastructure, technology, etc. But, in large part, isn't that why it remains a rural area? Outside of large cities, development has yet to be something pushed for. That said, I recall traveling through certain areas in Kansas, Missouri, and other states in the US – that would probably be not so dissimilar to the conditions mentioned by the columnist in India. Regardless, after reading a few of the entries that have been posted, and picking up on the incredibly negative tone the author conveys, I think I have a better understanding of the "Ugly American" (or even worse, the wannabe "Ugly American" or "Ugly Westerner") that blights the world and gives the rest of us Americans a bad name. Wall Street Journal, please discontinue this series. It was obviously not well thought out.
Man, you people sure are whiners. A guy writes what he sees in his mind, and you people just bash him. Best thing I have found about the WSJ is they tell the facts. Kudos to you WSJ. Keep up the factual articles too. Regards, David K.
First of all, My dear Niraj , that was an adventure trip and you choose it and you had it. (Period, Don't make a story out of it.)
Second, if you wanted a best hospital and care, you would haven't traveled a 1200 miles trip in an auto rickshaw (which has a speed limit 50 Km /hr as per Indian DOT standards) and that too on highway. I think you should thank God for being alive to write your stupid adventure.
Now for the people bitching about India, don't look on the one side of a country, which has been screwed by the people like you with a screwed negative attitude and raped by the bastard politicians. I travel almost every year and had adventure trips in Himalaya's ranges (good and BAD), but I always take a good side of the BAD.
Grow up guys…..
Niraj is not.
Criticism is a learning tool. Criticizing does not mean one is trying to put down another. One should treat criticism as a mechanism upon which to build a solid foundation. India has a lot of things to learn and a lot of things to teach the entire world.
The healthcare system in India has its flaws, just like it has in the US.
Those who are running the healthcare policy in India have to make a trade-of; they can either provide basic healthcare to millions of villagers or maintain air-conditioning for a one-off WSJ columnist wandering into that regeion. I think they have picked their priorities right.
As to the lack of hygeine and such issues. I agree there is room for improvement.
It is the second time I check this blog and all I have to say is that with every article there are a couple dozen or more entries so I suspect the WSJ and Niraj are doing something right. As for the subject of the article it seems to be secondary in comparison to the insight this blog gives into Indian thinking. I will not generalize and instead give points to Narasimha and ND. As for the country itself I personally think India is beautiful, although beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The unfortunate thing about many developing countries is not the country itself but the mentality of its people, of which at least in part this blog gives a clear example. And there in my opinion resides the true value of Niraj's writing.
Public/government hospitals in India are known for being inept and inefficient. Middle class Indians go to private hospitals and clinics. Some of the newer private hospitals have facilities and standards that are as nice as ones you will find in Texas.
I highly recommend you end your adventure today. The monsoon is no joke. Monsoon = large, low scale hurricane. Plus, your rickshaw did not look too healthy.
- Niraj's Mom
Yes, we have problems, lack of infrastructure, bad excuse for hospitals etc. etc. What is there to hide – Nobody said we were No. 3 most developed country behind US and China.
However, taking those risks in an unknown country does not make one smarter.
I am not surprised by the comments. I agree we are not a developed country – everyone knows that. But what's the point in taking stupid, idiotic risks for which you could very well forfeit your life.
That's the same thing as saying, I am going to find a tropical rain forest but if I get injured, I am going to look for Mayo Clinic.
Stupid – aint it.
Take the risks which are worth taking. Don't complain when things get worse, you should know what you are getting in to.
BTW, There is nothing to be ashamed. Nobody said, we were a developed country with all modern amenities and facilities.
The country has progressed DESPITE odds and that is commendable.
India is NO. 2 most populous country in the world and trying to educate of billions in one lifetime is not so easy.
Also, bashing rural India does not help the issue. Everyone, Indian / Non-indian, knows the issues. It's a lack of money. 1 billion people find a way to survive, despite it. $1 /day in rural India is not that bad.
Niraj's Mom
The comments are more interesting than the article itself.
Normally, I wouldn't pay much attention to readers' comments, but this time, I probably got sucked into it. So, I decided to dig some data (opinions can be myriad, but data nevertheless is compelling) and share it with everyone.
The size of USA's landmass is 9.63 million sq. km, and India's is 3.3 sq. km (roughly a third). USA's population is 303 million, whereas India's is 1,130 million (roughly 4 times). Naturally, population density in India (336 / sq km) is 11 times that of the States (36 / sq km). Needless to talk about the expansive / sophisticated Interstate Highway network and all the traffic regulation, etc in the States, that is definitely a model to consider for most developing countries. Despite the above statistics, USA tops the whole world in the number (each year) of (1) Accidents, per 100,000 persons: 700; (2) Persons injured due to road traffic accidents: 1,021; and (3) Deaths by road traffic accidents, per 100,000 persons: 15.5 (ranks #3 in the world), whereas India does not even figure in the Top 20 nations.
USA became an independent nation in 1776 (i.e. some 232 years ago), an India in 1947 (61 yrs ago). Nearly, 81% of USA's population is residing in cities / suburban areas, whereas 78% of India's population lives in rural villages (most of them hardly with electricity, roads, primary education or access to healthcare within the village) – clearly goes to show the stark difference in the levels of industrialization in both countries. Despite all the above, India's GDP ($3.1 trillion in PPP terms) is ranked only #4 in the world, with USA obviously leading the chart with $13.8 trillion. Take a guess and see if India would require all the other 170 yrs to surpass the USA as the largest economy in the world? Some self-proclaimed smart bloke at a Goldman Sachs Investment Bank claims that BRIC counties (refer to Brazil, Russia, India and China, for the uninitiated) will surpass the world's richest economies by as soon as 2050. Have you been following the WTO discussions, lately?
Before it gets seemingly one sided, it is remarkable what USA has achieved over the last 2 centuries, and undoubtedly led the world in many areas. India, for its part has a lot of infrastructural and other pieces of the puzzle (that are the backbone of long-term development of a nation (i.e. primary and higher education to a majority of population, access to organized healthcare for all, etc)) to solve for itself over the next decade or two. However, when you talk about these issues in the context of a nation such as India, think of the magnitude of the complexity involved, in the order 10, compared with what a USA had to deal with, simply due to the size of the population.
Now, all you readers (wherever you are), just get back to work!
P.S. Most of the above data was taken from wikipedia
Indian from Chennai in NJ. Comments by SoCal & other 'firangs' (foreigners) who visited India is very much true. There is very poor infrastructure all over. Doctors are in it for money & not servicing (not all of them, only 99.9%). There is no value for life (did you notice that terrorists kill hundreds every year in dozens of blasts, and nobody even yawns!). The only thing that excites my fellow Indians is petty casteism, pseudo-secularism, cheap bollywood movies & losing in cricket. Before India aspires for greatness, Indians need to teach their kids moral values (which btw includes things other than just chastity for women), and strength of character & conviction. Okay… now label me a traitor for speaking the truth.
Thanks Data Speaks for itself…I think that was helpful. I was having a hard time weaving through some of those very defensive and biased remarks.Hate it or love it, there is much to be done and we have taken the first steps. Lets look at the task ahead and not respond to scathing comments based on the thoughts of limited insular minority that travel's to India once a year.
This blog is not WSJ-worthy. Perhaps Mr. Sheth is a new reporter in the Dow Jones stable, and is anxious to make his mark, but using a rickshaw ride as a hook to comment the state of India through first-hand observations is blase' and smacks more of Top Gear than WSJ.
Personally, I think the comments are more interesting than the article
Looks like the Author would be thinking to save money by travelling in autoriksha. You should hired a car dear. You should be thankful that you are picked up by so many enthusistic Indians. You got medical facality in so a small village where doctors are ready to work on Sunday too. Thank to people.
The blog is for most part factual and we can see what we want in it. No country/place is perfect… there is ample filth in the United States (I don't even want to start about China). I don't understand why India would be expected to be different?
As several comments have mentioned above… there are some dos and don'ts when driving… you don't drive a motor cycle across Canada in January… similarly, you don't drive auto rickshaw across India during Monsoons (rainy seasons).
Medical conditions in rural India are not at par with the west… that is a fact… that is why India is classified as developing… not developed. It will take time.
Don't start comparing everything with China… China has its own problems… we don't have coal miners dying in India every month and the state keeping mum… that is because India is a democracy. Democracy has strengths and weaknesses… strengths are that individuals have a voice… weakness is that if you give 1 billion people voice… the lowest common denominator will be so low that any progress forward can at best be at snail's pace… Is that good or bad? That depends on what is more important to you… the macro level picture of the nation? Or a micro level individual rights etc… I let the readers decide.
In conclusion… what I take from the article… People in India are very nice and friendly. There are hospitals in remote India and they are inadequate. Doctor's are over worked to the level that they have to be on call 24/7… I agree all these needs improvement.
I don't attach much weight to Niraj's cheap novel style ending… those are his speculative comments. Did he talk to the old lady? Did he ask the nurses what was the matter? Did he ask anyone, what was the matter with the old lady? When the male nurse "smacked her arm", how hard was it? In Indian culture, close contact is not an anathema as in some other cultures… often when people are talking… they will slap the other person on the back with a smile on the face… sometimes when talking to someone younger, they will jokingly hit on the wrist.. which is a way of saying… "Come on, I know that is not true"…. Off course if the male nurse was hitting the old lady… as in torturing her, may be Niraj should have taken the trouble to report the incident to the local police. Why didn't he do that? With someone from the media taking interest in the case, I can assure you, the police would have taken action and the reporter would have contributed to India's progress by doing the old lady a service.
People seem to be getting heated up for nothing. Overall India has poor infra structure but good people. People who went out of their way to help Niraj and Hannes. Ultimately the only thing that matters is having good people — they can and will improve infra structure over time.
The data speaks for itself that India has only advanced beyond the limits of its native Islamic and Hindu hegemony because of the two hundred years of beneficial and largely humane rule of the British Empire. Britain not Mesopotamia is the mother of most advanced civilizations but don't worry the WOGS will miff it all in the end.
Wow…Mr. Sheth should really have considered what he was doing. No one rides an auto rickshaw on mountain or hillside roads in the monsoon! People either drive in proper cars or they take the trains or fly. As for the hospital they went to, well it's true…many rural hospitals just don't have the resources necessary for proper sanitation and procedures. As for the doctors and nurses, well it's almost the same in Bombay. I once went to see how things worked in Bombay Hospital and one of the doctors there completely dismissed me on the basis that I would understand nothing of what was going on. However, Mr. Sheth should be grateful that there was atleast some medical attention if any. I don't recall knowing of any nearby hospitals in the middle of a drive from LA to Las Vegas…As far as I'm concerned, Mr. Sheth is a little bit naive to think that everything should be in tip top shape in a developing country. Seriously though…who drives an auto rickshaw, a vehicle not suited for such travel, cross country during the monsoons?
Well, people who have been speaking about "Indian mentality" on this blog, if you are an Indian, you aint helping the nation by standing on the other shore and dictating what needs to be done…get there and start doing things if not….just don't encourage media to propagate things that look so sorry about such a great nation…(obviously there are numerous of them…can see it from data speaks above).
And if you aren't an Indian, what do you know about India???
Nobody is feeling ashamed….just feeling sad at the plight of WSJ to be publishing such articles which doesnot seem to do any good to India or to the mighty nationals reading this…so why not cut it and publish srticles on India's booming economy..(for heaven's sake that does not mean articles that say… people in India eating and not eating rice is responsible for your purses…)
allrighty have a great day!!!
BTW the above blog is from AA did not mean it to be anonymous
Great blog post. I also spent time in India. Here is a Video of my most recent trip. It pulls together India's past, present and opens up the possibility of their future.
AA- wake up & smell the coffee! There is no right to anything in India. If you speak your mind, you will get death threats (Taslima Nasreen). If you try to fight the vested interests, you become a statistic (in the mortality section). So the only thing sane & capable Indians can do…. is to leave the country to safer shores & criticize from afar. You don't have to worry about WSJ- they are big boys and can take care of themselves. Btw, India was a great nation…. thousand four hundred years ago… not anymore. The only thing going on for you is you're a big market where others can sell things. Don't mistake it for greatness!
method and mode of transport. do not ask someone something that they do not have.
"The data speaks for itself that India has only advanced beyond the limits of its native Islamic and Hindu hegemony because of the two hundred years of beneficial and largely humane rule of the British Empire. Britain not Mesopotamia is the mother of most advanced civilizations but don't worry the WOGS will miff it all in the end.
Comment by Data speaks for itself – August 11, 2008 at 12:51 pm "
I know of Brits who don't speak to their co-passangers even on a 9-10hr long flights (pls don't mistake it for their condescending attitude; they are very nice people – they still bow to their queen) – only because no one has formally introduced them to their co-passengers.
But, that cannot be a reason for this Brit to take my identity on this blog and pat himself / his country on the back. Dude, get a life!
Data Speaks for itself – The "Original" blogger
I have lived for 15 years in a 3rd world country in Asia. I am not upset by this article but feel it could happen in any 3rd world country. It is good that the locals helped when you had the accident. The medical treatment outside major cities is often very poor. In this case, if you were an experienced traveler, you should have carried your own first aid kit with anti-biotics and syringes.
You were lucky to get to a medical facility and to get to a doctor.
In some third world medical situations, a hospital is the most dangerous location as that is where people with infections go and where they can be easialy transmitted.
Your mode of transport was not up to the road – but that was the idea as to adventure. ok.
It was fun reading about your adventures and I would like to see more of this type of story.
I wonder what would happen in a rural area of an other 3rd world country?
To All who are defending present conditions in India. You have no idea what in the world you are talking about. As an NRi assigned to work in India i am HORRIFIED of the road conditions. And as far as the Value of Human Life is concerned. About two months ago a Local Alchohol (DESI) dealer killed a man because he owed him 2.00 RS. Tragic, I would have gladly given him 2000.00 RS to spare his life. once you live in a Civilized and Law abiding society you will come to know that India has a VERRRRRRRRRRRY LOOOOOOOOng way to go.
Niraj and his friend had an auto accident, went to a clinic, and got fixed up. That's it – not sure why this is a story getting so many angry responses. I don't read it as a critique of rural India – he just said what happened. Yes, India's technology/health care/ infrastructure is crap. But that's typical for Third World nations. Why I find really touching is how so many people rushed to help him and his friend, getting them to a clinic quickly. The only comment that I think Niraj was incorrect about was his assessment of the cost: 1600 rupees is nothing for a Westerner, but it's a hell of a lot of cash for the average Indian.
You are lucky to have got away with small bruises and some stitches. No guy with brains will plan for a long road trip in an auto rickshaw.
To travel in India cross country in a rickshaw is true stupidity, during monsoon is just asking for trouble.
Both India & China have come a long way, but there is no guarantee that both will continue on that path.
India does not have the infrastructure of China because they have not enslaved their people & bulldozed over anyone that got in their way. For better or sometimes worse, hinduism, socialism, communism have prevented the country from succeeding because it makes it difficult to get anything done in India.
On the other hand much of the growth of China has been on the backs of others, including their own countrymen & other countries that China is now raping & pillaging in Africa etc.
China will have to adapt the model, because they are in the process of destroying their country with pollution, & frankly there are not enough resouces in the globe to keep them going, even if they can take them away from everyone else.
China has great technology, but needs to get a jolt of humanity in order to survuve & also not to screw up the rest of the globe in their quest for power, India has to get beyond the mysticism & socialism if it wants to continue it's growth, if not all the great minds will just leave for opportunities on other shores. It also faces problems from global warming, many areas are going to be under water and some will be returning to dessert in the near future.
Traveling to india is great, but it is 4 star or expect the worst. There is no mid-level travel there.
You can get very good reasonably priced food, but accomodations are bad if you don't pay top dollar.
Once you get outside the cities I would actually rather go to the bathroom in a open field then use many of the provided facilities.
Although you have to watch out for the cobras.
As a women also let me recommend you carry TP or wipes with you everywhere as they are not provided.
Although I'm sure the same highly non-hygenic conditions exist in china once you get out of the big cities as well.
Also many Indians outside of large cities, die each year from infections & injuries that need not be life threatening, there are great hospitals avaiable if you have the money, but once you leave the cities you are on your own no matter how much money you have, facilities are sparse & ill-equipped.
You're lucky the "gundas" aren't out to take you guys down. I was in Chennai last year and got into an auto-rickshaw incident where the driver wanted me to get out in the middle of no-where to take some "snaps"
I blame India's governance model for all its woes. That is the root of the problem that needs to be addressed. Unsophisticated, poorly disciplined and unregulated democratic processes and institutions are what has turned India into this miserable state. Unfortunately India's democracy is not participative and governance at the local level is nearly absent. Infrastructure woes, human rights, bad R&D, worst child malnutrition rates, misguided population and food policy, lack of social security and others are all because of this extremely bad, centralized governance model. America became what it is because of its governance systems and not just because of economic growth. India today has disastrous governance which needs to be fixed at the earliest.
NYC: Your observations are way off target. In the US too, we have a law called the eminent domain where public good takes precedence over private interests in, say, land acquisitions. China is exactly doing that – as along as they compensate their citizens at market values, public good should take precedence. China's governance is disciplined, in a way, and wealth distribution seems to be effective. While I will never advocate the China model of governance, India should learn some things from it such as unity of polity and firm, decisive steps targeted toward citizen's benefits.
All of you who are defending India, do have any clue what you are talking about? As an NRI I am horrofied of the road conditions. i am assigned to a 2 yrs.contract at a BPO I can not wait for it to be over only 11 months to go. And as far as value for Human Life is concerned there is not one in India. Read a story in Times that a man was killed by a THUG who sold illegal alchohol for a 2rupees debt. Civilized nation won't tolerate it and will enforce the LAW, where India has only two LAWS Politicians and MONEY.
well, i find it biased coz one seems to be making a STORY when – what the hell else were your expecting? More importantly, this mail trail from people (the desis) who claim to have stayed in india and encountered the "horrors" of staying in india – well dude, this is the country – take it or leave it…if its so horrific getting out of the US/West and going into a developing nation…just dont travel there…simple!
Every single thread about India is muzzled by all these morons crawling out of the woodwork defending their country vigorously.
Everyone knows all the good things about India. Smart people, well meaning local populace, a innate sense of productivity, etc etc. there is no doubt that India will go far, notwithstanding the a**clowns in this thread. However, we are are talking here and now. Currently the place is filled with rotting infrastructure, corrupt politicians and murderous roads. Most of the areas outside the major cities are sh**holes filled with thugs. And to come out and even say otherwise is a joke. Luckily most Indians who move here are not like the bozos who are responding to this thread.
No my observations are not way off target, you are viewing China's progress through rose colored lenses.
The way that public domain is handled in China is very different than here & I doubt that the chinese citizens are really well compensated, as they know the government will just do what it wants & they have no legal recourse.
And I was not talking about public domain at all.
I was talking about the govenrnment using their people as slave labor for decades and only recently have citizens been able to have a better life, only some, most outside the cities face the same poverty issues they always did & at the same time see more pollution in the air, water etc.
China will be lucky if they don't kill off their population of slaves with the uncontrolled pollution they produce.
Also I realize that the US, Britain etc & other countries went through process of industrial revolution that produced great pollution to the world as well, and impacted their citizens, but the populations of these countries were not nearly the size of China & India and the earth was much younger & contained more resources.
The earth is in a very depleted state, so my statement is very true that China must come up with new technologies and ways to do things as there is not enough energy in the globe to support their current growth, Even if the take all the resources away from all the other nations there is not enough.
Its just an experience for Mr. Sheth. Let's take it like that.
There are always pros and cons in everything in life around the globe.
Nothing is perfect in the world.
As some one said you can get World Class service at affordable rates in India provided you have the right approach.
As an American of Indian origin, I choose to take this blog for what it is – an anecdotal summation of a road trip with some trivia. Contrary to others, an article like this provides a well balanced view of the populace beyond the tech temples and call centers. One should accept the inadequacies that abound in the country and the fact that they are being addressed far too slowly if at all without getting into a jingoistic rant.
There might be lessons to be learnt but all the people who get so defensive so fast please realize that vast parts of the country are a mess, far too many people – especially kids – live lives of abject and unmitigated poverty and given the curious nature of political alliances, nothing really gets accomplished at a governmental level.
The country faces serious challenges not least an ominous shortfall of food production given its burgeoning population.
Please stop feeling insulted by an offhand comment and become aware of the big issues.
You all need to calm down! This is a BLOG, the WSJ is not claiming this to be a new story!
In Feb 2004 I visited my brother in Bombay for 48 hours. Spent 36 of those hours
admitting him to a private clinic in Mumbai and watching the unhygienic conditions in which he was receiving medical care. People in India are very religious because it is only their prayers perhaps that save them. All the Bollywood versions of Ramayana and Mahabharata do not seem to teach "Do not blame the messenger"; neither the King of Lanka nor the Kauravas listened!
Wow! I think the author was pretty adventurous…the accident – however caused – is not untypical of what might happen in India to any travellor whether by autrickshaw or car or bus. The good natured fellow autorickshaws who stopped and helped as best they could is also typical.. the medical facilities in a rural area along the way are not that surprising in India… the doctors boredom is a personal matter… I am glad he was competent… and that is not untypical despite the awful facilities!!! So cheer up guys… I have been to China and it is true we are way behind in inrastructure … but I am so glad our humanity and good Samaritanism came through!!! I did not think the author bashed India…just some fun -even sympathetic reporting of reality…We dont need to be defensive…In time we will no doubt improve…but for now enjoy the the challenges of India travel… or stay away from it on the safer road of more developed countries…
I believe they are travelling in a convoy of autorickshaws.
I am sure other travellers would have helped, but in this case it was one of the convoys.
I am basing this on watching the video where there are several similarly painter autos.
You were lucky that the police did not ask for bribe before letting you get any medical attention.The medicines you bought for $ 3 have more than 50% chance of being fake. Keep close eye for infection in the wound.Did your friend get a tetanus shot? If he has not had one in last 10 years be sure to get one ASAP. Good luck and next time take the train or fly.
I hope the author continues his trip, in a auto-rickshaw or perhaps a safer conveyance. The main thrust of the article, presenting observations of rural India by an Indian-American is still valid and quite refreshing.
In which country in the world can we see such a hopitality like in India. In Europe or the states will the same treatment be given where – in just five minutes dozens of rickshaw drivers came to assist Niraj and Hannes and were taken to the Govt Hospital .
Somebody takes a stupid autorickshaw drive and has the audacity to complain about facilities. Wake up guys – there are more serious issues in life.


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I don't see you arguing for an accurate portrayal of everything in your fiction all the time. For example, most people seem fine without accurate portrayal of what personal hygiene was really like in 1300 CE in their medieval fantasy media. (Newsflash: realistically, Robb Stark and Jon Snow rarely bathed or brushed their teeth or hair). In real life, people have to go to the bathroom. In movies and books, they don't show that very much, because it's boring and gross. Well, guess what: bigotry is also boring and gross. But everyone is just dying to keep that in the script.
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This was one of the first images from my first roll through the my new Holga 120WPC pinhole camera. Still a relative new guy to the film world, Heck! Still a new guy to photography. I was intrigued by pinholes basic construction, simplicity, and ability to create detailed images that hint of dreamy soft images.
This particular day I was off on adventure to the hot springs. A couple of friends and I hopped into a low clearance import and set off. The chances of us making it was slim and we knew it. But in our favor us was nothing else to do with a day off and a case of cheap beer. We set off at the crack of noon and drove along the river gawking at the freshly fallen snow. Only 3 miles from the hot springs the build up of snow and ice was too much for the small compact. The car could go no further. It had wedged itself on the build up of snow the fender had been plowing for the last couple miles. Add bald tires to the scenario and it was in agreement that the hot springs were no longer on today's agenda. We unstuck the car, turned it around, parked it, popped the hatchback, cracked a beer, and took in the view.
We get snow occasionally in Portland, but only dustings which soon become littered with tracks and then tainted brown when it starts to melt. This place was untouched. Absent of trees meadows became features white lakes. The build up of snow made absorbs a substantial amount of noise. With most of the wild life hibernating or migrating the forest becomes almost eerily quiet.
After a couple of swigs of beer, and a couple of thrown snowballs I set off with my pinholga. Freshly loaded with Fuji Across I walked back 20 yards to a band in the river. The snow was deep enough to swallow my gorilla pod. I composed as best as I could with no viewfinder only a couple of sight lines and the spirit level on the Holga. It was so bright the exposure was only a couple of seconds. Picked up my camera and my beer off to another stop on the way back home.
On the way back I finished this roll of film. With negatives 6x12 you only get 6 exposures. Still new to working with any kind of Holga I didn't have a proper spool tensioning strategy. Or even realize to check to tighten the roll when removing it from the camera. The loosely wound roll caused light leaks in 4 of the 6 images. Thankfully this one came out unharmed.
Last month I submitted this image to the Plates to Pixels call of art. The show titled "LenZless" is about making images with cameras that don't have lenses. Some of the images selected they went beyond the pinhole camera, and made some very unique and interesting images. This image "Snowy River Bend" was chosen for the exhibit hosted on Plates to Pixels website and in the exhibits printed catalog. You can check out my image and all the others at the link below.
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Yet another complete waste of time... (long, and no 56k allowed)
Doc Nickel
Perfect illustration of yesterday's post, just a few lines down.
I'm at a point where I have so many things going on, that I have to complete- or at least advance- two or three or even five other things before I can complete whatever it is I'm working on.
Last week it was a stand for the drill grinder. I literally didn't have
in the entire shop, that I could set the grinder in order to use it. Workbenches are piled feet-deep, I have heavy tools on the welding bench, etc. I'd been meaning to make a dedicated stand, and even though that was the "long way" to a solution, it was a project that I both wanted to do, and which needed to be done.
Which ended up a couple days work in order to use a grinder to sharpen some drills I needed to get a customer project done properly and shipped.
Here's another one.
Last February, as most of you recall, I bought a couple truckloads of some new-to-me tools; among them was a small shaper and a brake lathe. At the time I brought them home, about the only place for them was on the welding table... and that's where they've been for the last eight months.
Both need dedicated stands- the shaper came with a usable stand, but it was shaky and weak. I have plans to make an enclosed base/stand, much like many smaller machine tools came with back in the forties and fifties. I also plan to install the motor and jackshaft inside the base, which will shortedn up the front-to-back distance by almost a foot, which will be very helpful when trying to cram it into my already-overstuffed machine shop.
I have the base and a "tray" broken (as in a shetemetal 'brake') but just like the grinder stand, I wished to have something more "finished" and professional looking, than a simple sheet tray with square corners. That's the sort of thing you guys pay me for, after all.
To that end, I notched the tray corners, and had the edges bent to about 45 degrees or so. The corners are to be fitted with rounded slices, that will make the tray look stamped, not bent- also the rounded corners will be safer on one's body parts.
Now, I can fab the pieces easy enough, but I had the try bent out of 10-gauge; that's nominally eighth-inch. It's tough to bend those corner pieces cold, and have them come out the way I want, since they're only about 2-1/2" square.
Of course, what'd be perfect for this is if I had a forge- you know, one to go with the anvil, hammers and tongs I
got with those machine tools. Early last spring, I whipped together a custom version of an atmospheric burner, and tried it in a plain stack of firebrick. It worked, but not well, and wasn't very portable.
I bought some Kao-Wool last summer, intending to eventually build a proper forge... but here it is many months later, and I'm still wondering where the hell June went.
So, to summarize: Right now, I need my welding table. Said table is occupied by a 300-pound shaper and a 250-pound brake lathe. A temporary stand has been arranged for the lathe, since it'll see minimal use. But I have definite plans for a stand for the shaper, and would like to start using it. To progress on the stand, however, I need- or at least would be greatly helped by- a forge.
So I need to build a forge so I can build a stand so I can move the shaper so I can use my welding bench.
I've been running like this almost all year.
I was seriously pissed off this morning, and decided what I needed was some "me time". The following took place in a little more than four hours, and used only scrap I already had or parts I'd already built (like the burner.)
Step one:
Quick tray of 1" angle, some scrap esxpanded metal, and a couple of tabs.
The tabs hold a dense yellow firebrick, hard up against one edge and with about 2" clearance on the other three sides. The firebrick is the "floor" of the forge- it's not as good a refractory as the wool, but it's a lot more durable when you rest hot steel on it.
The clearance gives room to wrap two layers of 1" Kao-Wool ceramic insulation.
An old chunk of galvanized sheetmetal makes a protective cover over the wool. It's not a very smooth bend, but it was dinged-up scrap metal anyway.
This is the same burner I made last March or April, but cut down two inches and with a freshly-fitted stainless steel nozzle. Which should last longer than a plain steel nozzle, which gets hot, carburizes and erodes over time.
This is the now-cut-down gas nozzle. The old setup I'd left long, as I didn't know how I was going to plumb it. I cut it down, gave it a bend, and refitted the shutoff valve.
The actual gas-nozzle orifice is an .024" MIG tip- I can't claim that idea, it's pretty common in homebrew forges. It's easier to buy a MIG tip than it is to buy a tiny .020 or .025" drill bit and successfully drill a hole in something. I could do it, but not everyone has rigid mills and nice lathes. (A lot of forge plans specifically state you don't need much more than a hacksaw and some files to build it.)
Anyway, I threaded the end of the 1/4" stainless tubing for 10-32, and rethreaded the MIG tip the same, for a very streamlined gas nozzle. Probably unnecessary, but I thought it was rather elegant.
The now-modded burner and new gas jet, installed on a quickie bracket and poking through a carefully-Exacto-ed hole in the wool.
So after less than three hours, it's time for a test! The badboy fired right up, and started producing copious heat... but not really all
great heat.
I played with the gas pressure, to little effect, and then started playing with throttling the burner, simply by placing my hand over the air intake. Blocking a big portion of my apparently-way-oversize inlet bell made a huge and immediate difference in the apparent burn temperature.
The quickie fix, as you can see, was a few strips of masking tape to choke the inlet a tad. I probably blocked 2/3rds of the inlet before it started to "sputter", and by that point, the forge was yellow-hot and the test bars were ready to whang on.
MUCH better than the earlier "stacked firebrick" version- I'll have to make some flappers or something so the inlet can be adjusted on the fly, but right now, it makes as good a heat as I could hope for. I can't get to "welding" heat yet, but that's irrelevant at the moment- I have MIGs and TIGs for that.
A bar kept in there for 20-plus minutes never got to sparking or burning, so that's a good thing.
The corner pieces were easy and quick to bend, especially thanks to one of the hollow hardy tools that came with the anvil. They're rough-bent, but should need little more than some grinding and fitting before they're ready to weld into place.
And, while I had it hot, I did a little fooling around, since I had a stack of 3/8" rods handy. I tried more of the same curls and hooks I did last time, and then these- I squared the rod, then rolled the eyes. The first one (on the right) didn't cooperate well, and was too small to fix over the horn of the anvil. The second, on the left, was much better.
Anyway, yes, I know it's the roundabout way to get things done, but it makes me feel considerably better. I'll have the corners of the shaper tray "fitted" by the time I close down for the night, and I now have a pretty decently functional small forge for the next time I feel the need to beat the s**t out of something.
Of course, now I need to make some more hardy tools.
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Man your THE SHIT with tools... and i mean this... n/t
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let us know how th kaowool holds up
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According to the new SI.Com NFL Stadium Rankings the Edward Jones Dome was ranked 32nd overall in fan satisfaction. SI asked fans to fill out an extensive online survey ranking their hometown NFL stadium in everything from ticket prices to hospitality to the product on the field. Once again St. Louis Rams fans have pointed out that they are not currently happy with the product or stadium. Rankings for each category can be found below.
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Early in the year we were part of the ESPN Franchise Rankings, which had the St. Louis Rams coming in at #111 out of 122. To meet the lease contract the Edward Jones Dome needs to be in the top 25% of all stadiums in 2015 and this is simply not going to happen. The Rams need to do something above and beyond to start making the experience better. What do you believe the Rams should do to improve the experience before, during, and after the game?
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Today the Department of Awesome Natural Wonders reveals an awesomely icy sight that hasn't been seen since 2009: the Sea Caves found along the Apostle Islands National Lakeshore in northern Wisconsin. The caves are the result of centuries of erosion caused by freezing, thawing, and wave-on-sandstone action that have sculpted the shorelines and they're only accessible when Lake Superior freezes enough to permit safe passage.
Nature has carved delicate arches, vaulted chambers, and honeycombed passageways into cliffs on the north shore of Devils Island, Swallow Point on Sand Island, and along the mainland near the Lakeshore's western boundary.
Officials estimate that as many as 1000 people are arriving daily to check out the awesome spectacle of the frozen caves. If the cold weathers holds out, the caves may remain accessible for another month or so.
Via the U.S. Department of the Interior:
Inside the caves awaits a fairyland of needlelike icicles. The formations change from chamber to chamber and from day to day. Apostle Islands is experiencing high volume of visitors right now, so we recommend that you visit the caves during the week. Before heading to the caves, please call the Ice Line at (715) 779-3397 - extension 3, for the most current ice condition information.
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This was not what the fans were hoping for when Minneapolis federal judge Susan Nelson mandated the NFLPA and NFL continue to undergo mediation. Rather than reaching terms on a new CBA the players and owners have walked out of negotiations again and are not set to meet again until May 16th. Meanwhile, Judge Nelson is still considering ruling against the NFL and officially ending the current lockout (for meantime, at least).
Players and owners initial arguments were heard in the Minneapolis court at the beginning of April and have been under consideration ever since. In the interim the players and owners were to meet via federally sanctioned negotiations, apparently little progress was made during that time.
"I think fans want solution. I want solutions," NFl Commissioner Roger Goodell said. "I think the players want solutions and I think the teams want solutions. That's why we have to be working at it in negotiations and figuring out how to get to that point."
Unfortunately, little was done in the way of solution while both sides met in Minnesota. Instead the sides will wait on the ruling of Judge Nelson and in the meantime everything is on old for at least another month.
"That is the judge's decision," Goodell said. "She will make that ruling when she is prepared to do it, and at that point in time we all will respect the ruling and we will get back to the point where we are negotiating."
Until then, we're all just in a state of NFL purgatory.


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The EPA lawsuit entails some overlap with the Section 126 complaints, which target some of the same plants named in the EPA suit, but the cases remain separate. "Granting the 126 petitions is just another backstop for EPA in case their other actions fail, just as the revised [eight-hour] standard failed in court last year," said Pat Hemplepp, spokesman for American Electric Power.
Moreover, the Northeastern states apparently aren't leaving it up to the EPA to fight their battles. Vermont and New Jersey have announced that they will joint the EPA suit, while the attorneys general from new York and Connecticut joined as plaintiffs in a suit filed Nov. 29 against American Electric Power in the U.S. District Court in Columbus, Ohio.
This suit targets 10 coal-burning plants, alleging that AEP increased generating capacity through repowering projects and the like, which requires installation of additional pollution controls.
Said New York attorney general Elliot Spitzer, "The emissions from these plants are a significant factor in the problems of acid rain and smog that are damaging natural gas resources and human health in New York."
American Electric Power counters that it has only undertaken routine maintenance, such as replacement of degraded equipment or failed components, which would not violate the Clean Air Act AEP adds that utilities in the Northeast should accept responsibility for their own actions. "We continue to be amazed that Northeast states insist on blaming their local environmental problems on sources that are...miles away," said Dale Heydlauff, vice president-environmental affairs for American Electric Power.
Meanwhile, Spitzer and his colleague in Connecticut have said they intend to file similar lawsuits against FirstEnergy, Ginergy, Virginia Power and perhaps other utilities.
EPA Authority: A High Court Appeal?
On Dec. 1, the EPA proposed action, known as one-hour ozone attainment demonstrations, for 10 major urban areas, outlining emission reductions necessary for each area to meet the standard for smog.
The 10 affected areas are Atlanta, Baltimore, Houston, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Milwaukee, Spring, Mass., Hartford, Conn. and Washington, D.C. Such a plan, of course, does not place the burden solely on power plants, but on other major polluters such as motor vehicles within the identified areas. (see http://www.epa.gov/ttn/oarpg/ramain.html - "Ozone 1-hour Attainment Demonstrations.")
In fact, even the eight-hour standard may not be entirely dead. On Oct. 29 a federal appeals court voted 2-1 to deny rehearing of its May ruling that had struck down the standard as unconstitutional, but five of 11 circuit judges said they would rehear the case en banc, if given the chance. Thus, at the end of December some observers thought that the EPA might consider an appeal. One such observer was Norman Fichthorn, partner in the administrative law group and member of the environmental team in the law firm Hunton & Williams, who added: "It will take at least a few more months for them [the EPA] to sort that out."
In the meantime, the EPA was aiming to reinstate the old one-hour standard in states where it had been revoked in favor


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I just love it when a side dish can double as a main dish! This chick pea salad with olives is yummy and filling, as well as being incredibly healthy for you. I have taken what could've been an ordinary chick pea salad and bumped it up with healthy ingredients such as broccoli and sun dried tomatoes, making this dish interesting and substantial. All of these flavors blend wonderfully together.
You can certainly used dried beans for this recipe and soak them overnight and then cook them for an hour….but I just didn't have the time. You can also substitute different beans in this dish, but I really love chick peas. I think their texture in this dish is perfection.
This salad holds up great in the fridge for a few days. Add a sprinkle of olive oil before each subsequent serving to freshen it up and add that mouth-watering shine.
Here's what you will need to serve 6-8 as a side dish…
2 cans chick peas, drained & rinsed
4 cloves garlic, minced
1/4 cup Kalamata olives, pitted and coarsely chopped
1/4 cup green olives, pitted and coarsely chopped
1/4 cup sun dried tomatoes, chopped (can be packed in oil)
1/3 cup chopped scallions, white and light green part
steamed broccoli, 2 large florets (not heads), cut up into very small pieces
1/4 cup red wine vinegar
1/3 cup, plus 1 tbsp extra virgin olive oil
1 tbsp fresh mint, minced
1.5 tbsp fresh basil, minced
1 tsp fresh thyme, minced
1 tsp fresh rosemary, minced
1 tsp fresh oregano, minced (can use dried)
Salt & Pepper to taste
Rinse and drain chick peas and place in a large bowl. Add olives, scallions, sun dried tomatoes and broccoli, mix well. In a small bowl whisk together red wine vinegar, olive oil and all the herbs. Pour over chick peas and mix until incorporated. If needed, add a touch more olive oil. Mixture should be coated with the dressing, not soaked. Allow to sit for 30 minutes to let the flavors blend. Serve at room temperature.


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I create work for a variety of contexts and sell through galleries and by commission. My work includes sculptural objects as well as more obviously functional pieces such as lighting and screens.
I have come to glass-making after a career in publishing as a writer and an editor.
I trained in Fine Art and stained glass originally. Later I gained an M.A. in Fine Art which benefitted my painting style and also gave me confidence in modern glass design.After working in glass at Central St.Martins, I am now using enamels and I work with kinectic glass sculpture also.
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