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June 05, 2005, 03:44:37 PM »
I had a Sony F717 and upgraded to a Canon EOS 20. The Canon is by far a superior camera, but the Sony did come with an excellent lens.
I think that Sony might have realised that DSLR are what people will go for in this price range. If Sony come out with a true DSLR with the same make of lens then it could rival others already on the market.
My advice to you would to be to look at a Canon EOS 350. They are selling with special offers over here in the UK and the range of lenses available is considerable
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June 07, 2005, 08:03:40 AM »
PaulM : I've glanced ( supposed to be working ! ) at the Olympus E 300 on www.dpreview.com and the last sentence on the Conclusion page does apply, plus in the Cons the comment about s/n being 'mottle' rather than 'film grain - like'. Somewhere, I've read that 'grain' is easier to deal with.
Hope I don't come across as churlish - I really do appreciate all your comments. Prior to this ( ie before forums were available on-line ) camera choice was a lonesome affair ! Some of the dogs I've had over the last 30 years or so leave me shuddering. However, personal reviews on some forums ( eg dpreview.com ) show two extremes - comments from those who are still trying to convince themselves they MUST have bought the best, and comments from folk who don't even own the camera in question - very strange. I was attracted to this forum because Michael owned an 828 and was intending to use it on safari.
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June 08, 2005, 02:20:23 PM »
I'm not sure if this is your first digital or not, but given your experience with photography over the years, I can't imagine that your going to be happy with a point-and-shoot type camera. I just went through this with my uncle... He purchased the Sony 828 because he didn't want to shell out the extra cash (a year or so ago). Now he has a 20D and has never gone back. With today's prices for the SLR kits (canon or nikon), the price jump between the 828 and an SLR is not that big when compared to the jump in performance. You can get a really good picture from just about any camera, but with any of the current SLRs you can take photos under much more demanding conditions and are simply just much more fun and reactive when you push the button. If you can, I would strongly recommend trying the different cameras a store.
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June 17, 2005, 10:44:52 AM »
IMO abaazov's comment is not out of line at all. An f828 would be useless in a no-flash-allowed wedding where ISO 1600 + f/2.8 is barely adequate, especially in mixed-light situations (fluorescent lights on one side of the room, and incandescent on the other) make shooting RAW mandatory if anything approaching decent color is desired. Certainly it is smaller and quieter than a 1D-MkII, but there really is no comparison between the 1D-MkII and the F828 when it comes down to results delivered in demanding situations. If I was having a wedding in a low-light, no-flash-allowed venue, I would not consider any photographer who showed up with a 707 or 828 for the simple reason that those cameras simply will not deliver the goods in such a situation. No matter how talented the photographer is, the technical limitations of the tools will seriously compromise the results. Equipment DOES make a difference, or we would all still be running around with pinhole cameras. A true professional will simply show up with an appropriate tool for the job, and won't make silly excuses about "the camera doesn't matter". Sometimes it doesn't, but sometimes it does. And all the protestations to the contrary and post-processing wizardry won't change that.
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June 28, 2005, 09:51:38 PM »
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June 04, 2005, 07:42:56 AM »
My quest for a new camera seemed quite simple ~ Canon 350D v. Nikon D70, until I started to consider my budget and photographic 'needs'. Gone are the days of lugging heavy gear around.
I 'discovered' the Sony DSC-F828 by chance, albeit almost 2 years after its release. Reviews were not encouraging, until I stumbled on yours, Michael. It was refreshing to read a review from a pro user and I had to 'sleep on it'. I am now thinking seriously about the Sony. Most comments in this forum are 12 months old or more, but that means you have been using it for longer ( as stated in your report, you were about to go on safari with it.
My questions are - have you changed your (initial) views ? Am I stepping into a potential 'obsloscence' situation as the 828 is now approximately 2 years old ? I can appreciate the argument "go for what's right for you" - but thought I'd ask anyway.
My thanks and regards.
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June 04, 2005, 11:31:23 AM »
Thank you for your prompt reply.
The Sony DSC-F828 is still available in a few mail-order outlets here in the UK, The price ranges from £499 to an incredible £949.99 !
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June 06, 2005, 11:43:01 AM »
ARD : Thanks for your comments. My thoughts are still with a fixed lens camera, as opposed to an SLR, if possible. The attraction of the Sony was the lens - I've had Zeiss T* previously and they are superb. Trying to 'narrow' the field has produced a longer list as I've seen previews of the Canon s2 IS and the Nikon D50 and stumbled on the Nikon 8800. At each turn, I seem to be reviewing my needs. Now if the Sony had an IS system, there'd be no more dithering. :laugh:
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June 06, 2005, 09:08:22 PM »
Tenner, I guess it depends on what you would like to use this camera for. The pictures I've seen come out of the DSC-F828 are covered in colored splotches, which frustrates me to where I can't use them when they come across my desk. dpreview.com has a fairly thorough review that includes a noise graph. You might want to take a look at it before you make your decision. The test photos are next to a 300D by Canon, which appear to be much smoother. I would imagine the 350D some have suggested would be better than that.
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June 07, 2005, 10:04:12 AM »
Minolta A2 and A200 are similar concept but with image stabilization.
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June 08, 2005, 08:29:00 AM »
Have a look here
comprehensive review of the Sony and may others. Thing is with camera choice there are so many, and there comes a time when you have to bite the bullet and pick one. If I were going for a fixed lens again I think I'd go for something that it still new on the market, that way, if the camera doesn't deliver what you hoped, it should still have a good re-sale value
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June 08, 2005, 10:25:10 AM »
Tenner, it's interesting that you object to the E-300 based on noise, but are considering the 828. Whether "grain-like" or "digital-like" noise is easier to deal with is pretty irrelevant given the relative amounts of noise.
If you stick to the lowest ISO on the 828, you'll make fine prints. If you want to use the camera for much else, you may get frustrated with it or just get used to noise reduction in post-processing.
The Zeiss lens is nice on that camera, but in the same vein as the noise issue ... other aspects of image quality essentially dwarf the Zeiss legend.
I'd personally opt for the A2 over the 828 based on all the reviews I've read, Zeiss lens notwithstanding. But I'm not about to limit myself to ISO 100 and under. For nature photography only, maybe, but not for other photography. I readily shoot ISO 1600 on my 7D at f/2 *with* antishake. And this isn't obscure usage - it's sitting around at dusk or indoors with friends & family. I have a Sony F717 which has an f/2-2.4 lens and a 5MP sensor with better noise characteristics than the 828, and I only take it out in bright light, because I avoid ISO 400 like the plague. Noise in ISO 400 images is visible in a 4x6 print unless you post process. Zeiss optics don't really do a whole lot for me under those circumstances.
This is a landscape photography site, so maybe I'm being presumptious in thinking you'll want to shoot at higher ISOs. Some of the restriction of a camera like this (lack of very shallow DOF, high noise at higher ISO) aren't so bad, especially considering what you can do with a compact kit.
I don't know exactly what Oly offers for lenses that would cover a 28-200 range - I'd be much more interested in the image quality you could get from the E-1 or E-300 than any small sensor digicam, though I don't place enough value in "compact" to want to invest in 4/3 myself.
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June 15, 2005, 02:32:02 PM »
i have to echo the sentiments of evan. i had an f828 for over a year, and i must say it served me well. but it is not a performance-oriented camera. for me the noise levels at high iso were just too much. add to that the fact that if you shoot raw you can forget about taking any photos in succession. i now have the 20d and it is night and day. the difference in price is huge, over double the price, and much much more when you start building a decent lens arsenal, but there is no question the f828 is deficient for serious photography.
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June 17, 2005, 08:16:05 AM »
very true. you can take great pictures with any camera, be it the most expensive or the least expensive. maybe i went too far. but i still think the f828 has some serious limitations, specially in low-light situations.
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June 17, 2005, 02:01:53 PM »
Thank you - each one of you for your interest and contributions. I won't repeat or quot individual's comments because I don't want to take up too much space. Many of your points are valid, some are even relevant - those that weren't ? well that's my fault for not giving enough detail, perhaps. I am not a professional photographer, so I'm hardly going to be invited to a wedding as an official shooter and if I were I'd be using appropriate ( quiet ) gear - a point I learned the hard way when taking shots at a theatrical production with a Rollei ( I swear it would have been quieter if I'd taken a Zenith with it's tank lid shutter )
To a certain extent, I echo abaazov's comments, and should say it's a compromise because of limitations of budget - I didn't want to go down the SLR path and start building an arsenal of expensive lenses. Having searched many sites for reviews and users' comments ( and I must say this is a rewarding one ) I have finally taken the plunge and my order arrived today. My first impression ? It feels 'right' in my big hands and I shall enjoy exploring its potential ( given my limitations as a 'snapper' ) fully aware that it will give questionable results as it is pushed to its extremes. I hope my gamble doesn't prove to be one I regret.
Thank you all again - happy shooting, cos that's what its all about !
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June 25, 2005, 03:15:07 AM »
"With today's prices for the SLR kits (canon or nikon), the price jump between the 828 and an SLR is not that big when compared to the jump in performance."
IMO this is a myth. When the respective lenses are taken in account the price for a mid range DSLR almost triple(!) compared to F828/ A2 type of digicam.
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July 09, 2005, 01:52:22 AM »
I've been using the F828 for about 6 months now. Yep, it do have its limitations, but even in sunset situations, it delivers crisp 12x18 prints when you work with it.
It will only close down to F8.0, so I'm learning to use ND filters to help that problem. Also, it has a deep DoF, which the ND's can help by opening the aperture more in sunny situations.
As far as aberations go, such as the purple fringing and blockes, yep, I've seent eh purple many times, and the blocking a few. The blocking happens when you try to take pictures into to teh sun too much usually. The purple fringe never shows up in prints though so far.
Noise? Yep, but when you consider your original on screen size is about 45" wide and you are compressing it down to 18 inches wide, you don't see much noise at ISO 200 or less when printed.
That said, I hope Sony come up with a professional F828 type camera. If they couild manage to update the F828 so it had less noise and useable higer ISOs with less abberation, they would ahve a show stopper on their hands. It's a very pleasurable, solid camera to use.
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August 28, 2005, 03:18:00 PM »
Now, a couple of month's later, my thanks again to all those who contributed to my request for comments. So far, I've been delighted with the F828 - a solid, well built and balanced camera that suits my large hands - and have been pleased with (many of) the results.
I quite agree. I got to this thread rather late, but I've had great results with my F828 and find it very useful professionally especially for macro shots of small art objects.
Though I have literally dozens of digital cameras including seven dSLR's and a Kodak digital MF back, I find the F828 works very well for situations where I have neither the time nor space to set up my strobes, reflectors, tripod, backdrops, etc., to shoot with my higher resolution dSLR's or my Kodak back. I can get results in a few seconds with the F828 with minimal fuss which literally take a minimum of a half hour set-up with my other cameras.
The small amount of purple fringe at high contrast borders is easily removed or ameliorated to the point of being inconsequential in 16x20 inch prints. The images and prints are very sharp and with excellent details. It's not the perfect camera for all-around photography (if there is such a thing) but in rebuttal to comments that it not suitable for professional work - that's certainly not my opinion or experience.
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June 04, 2005, 10:54:42 AM »
The F828 appears to have mostly disappered from dealers shelves. Sony seems to have lost interest in it as well, since there is no follow-up promotion since its launch.
Cameras like the Canon Rebel XT350 and upcoming Nikon D50 have ecliped it in many ways, along with that whole generation of 8MP digicams.
It still is capable of producing first rate images though, and has a lovely and versatile lens. But there is still the CA problem (though I never saw it as a big deal), and when shooting raw the camera is a bit of a slug.
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June 06, 2005, 03:31:46 PM »
At around £500, you could also take a look at the Olympus E-300. The lens range is superb, apparently up there with Zeiss (which I also have). They're a pretty silly price now, and I'd imagine would provide image quality at least as good as the Sony. DSLR for digicam money.
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This was the semester long project we did in class for Machine Tool Technology at the University of Central Missouri. I would like to hook the engine up to something and do tests.
The base is made out of a 3/4 in thick aluminum and the body and cylinder is mild steel. The flywheel and crank is made out of brass. I used most tools that you would use with metals. Vertical mill, horizontal mill, metal lathe, drill press and grinding machine, thread tap. I even machined the threads on the wrist pin.
Here are the plans if any one is interested in making them or for some info on how this was made.
* https://www.dropbox.com/s/68ykthvtc99uayx/AIR_ENGINE.zip?dl=0
1-2MB .ZIP file with 8 .PDF files for parts. (Link Updated 3-24-15)
Hi I would like to see the drawings, but the link appears to be broken - can you help please?
link has been updated. Using Dropbox instead of Skydrive now.
Nicely engineered project,
I built a model steam engine complete with boiler and burner when I was Technical college in 1988-89 It earned me a distinction in my grade.
That was back in the day when students where allowed to build things like boilers that had the potential to explode.
Keep up the good work,
Crank - connector, and shaft
Piston - connecting rod cap
Body - Wrist pin
I don't have it with me right now to explain it better.
I see that you've tried to fix the link but it's still not available to download. If you have a second, can you pop over to my site and send me the PDF (I'll get them via an e-mail if you send them though the "Submit Your Plans" link). After I post them feel free to link to them here since you're having trouble with LiveFileStore.
The site is ProjectsInMetal.com
I'm always looking for fun projects to add to the site and I think my readers would get a kick out of yours. I don't have very many quality engine plans that are still within the scope of a beginner, so yours would be perfect! You can let me know by clicking on my name here and sending me a private message, or by visiting my site and filling out the contact form.
Thanks in advance!
the one at the top of the page is the one i have. tho i need tools to make it :D
its a nice kit tho :)


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We've waxed lyrical about botanical walls, green roofs and living treehouses on Inhabitat for years – is the next logical step a home made from animal tissue? Mitchell Joachim from Terreform thinks so.
From the boundary-pushing team of archi-visionaries who brought us the fabulous Fab Tree Hab comes a new way to grow a structure — using animal flesh! The In Vitro Meat Habitat is a futuristic concept home composed of meat cells grown in a lab. We can't imagine that these residences are going be replacing suburban tract homes anytime soon, but it sure is a provocative idea! The creator of the concept, Mitchell Joachim, is a futurist with a twist– he says he is actually developing the concept in a lab.
Before you start crafting your protest signs, Dr. Joachim explains "It is intended to be a 'victimless shelter', because no sentient being was harmed in the laboratory growth of the skin." He envisions a wall in which tissues, skin and bones replace insulation, siding, and studs respectively. For fenestration, or openings of windows and doors, he envisions sphincter muscles that can open and close. Current prototypes are pig skin cells grown around a recycled PET plastic scaffold.
Dr. Joachin admits that the home is not all that pretty, but his work in exploring radical new ways to create futuristic buildings is a provocative reminder that sustainability requires a radical new vision of our cities and homes.
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December 22, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Whoever lived there might worry about people eating them out of house and home.
August 11, 2010 at 4:41 am
this seems pretty radical and could be the future. Us architects love new and exciting aproaches to materials. i\'d love to work with halibut flesh on some afforrdable housing projects that we\'re working on, even if it was just the porch or lean-to to start with. when\'s this available, does anyone know??
July 22, 2010 at 11:18 am
This project is an amazing experiment– see the BioWorks lab they built in Brooklyn and read the facts about in vitro growth. Obvoilsly you cannot grow a whole house by using test-tube meat, it would cost a fortune. Even to make a football sized model of the house, the cost would be $3,000 a sq/cm. That is not the point! Tomorrow may be a much different cost factor.
As far as the reality of shaping tissue to find geometry, it is possible and proven. Using tissue engineering in architecture is an absolutely brilliant idea and never explored in a lab previously. Their clever use of tissue to seek out potential architectural solutions is an original addition to the field of design.
July 20, 2010 at 11:14 am
They're probably showing a bladder being grown by another lab, because meat house project actually wasn't grown. It never lived or died; they just glued beef jerky to some plastic. Check out the facts about this project in: Heather Smith, "Why No One Wants to Eat the Meat House," Meatpaper, issue 10.
July 12, 2010 at 2:28 pm
I'm curious as to why a photo of a lab grown bladder was used in this article.
In fact it's a different still from this exact photo shoot of the bladder:
July 11, 2010 at 11:29 pm
We have been doing this for ages with plant materials. Look no further than the article from a few hours ago about the Vietnamese house:
Animal material was just the next logical step, I'm surprised no one had thought of this earlier.
July 11, 2010 at 10:52 pm
[…] before they strike. And from the desk of strange-yet-true comes one architect's plan to create a conceptual home entirely from meat cells grown in a […]
July 11, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Spencer, I\'m with you. I LOVE the idea of growing a building, but rather than meat I think growing something akin to a clamshell makes more sense. All the living stuff could be inside. When it gets diseased or dies, the shell would still be there.
July 10, 2010 at 6:57 pm
Methinks it would be simpler to genetically modify a Sequoya tree to grow faster to a certain point, and then hollow it out for a house. >.>
July 10, 2010 at 3:46 am
What keeps you alive _is_ chemicals, chemicals extracted from the food you eat, the liquids you drink and the air you breathe. These chemicals are used for many things like feeding you, creating hormones, repairing damaged tissue, allowing the creation of memories etc. Every thing in the world is basically created and run on chemicals. The Meat House probably wouldn't use much energy once it has been grown, it doesn't have to move anywhere and could probably be run on solar power and a few trace elements. And there would be no need for "harsh and costly chemicals" as this is a living house, a living organism.
I think it is a fantastic concept that has just sent my mind spinning on this Saturday afternoon. What if the house was a sentient biocomputer? Could the house be programmed to create offspring? Can I eat my house? Can I have one please?
July 9, 2010 at 10:16 pm
\"What keeps my body alive is not chemicals but the fact that I am alive and with all my different levels of body symbiotic micro-organism,immune system and the rest of my living body systems – NOT PRESERVATIVE CHEMICALS.\"
That\'s exactly the point I was getting at, and my response was sarcastic. I apologize for not clearly indicating that.
These proposed structures would be alive, and I presumed that further research would go into developing a way for them to be maintained (ie immune and digestive systems.)
July 9, 2010 at 10:04 pm
I think you need to think a bit more before you provide your answers because not everything you say makes sense, with all due respect. What keeps my body alive is not chemicals but the fact that I am alive and with all my different levels of body symbiotic micro-organism,immune system and the rest of my living body systems – NOT PRESERVATIVE CHEMICALS. This conversation is loosing scientific rigor and a grip of reality so I do not want to waste any further time. Enjoy your fantasies.
July 9, 2010 at 6:15 pm
I think that everyone has missed the point. Organisms (organic material) have evolved solutions to many of the problems we attempt to engineer around. The biggest of these is probably their ability to repair themselves. Others include structure, insulation, protection and biodegradability.
My guess is that nobody is going to be living in a pigskin house, but that this research (the ability to grow any kind of organic structure) is only the first step in the process that will lead to the future of buildings, vehicles, etc. We already 'feed' and water our gardens, imagine our buildings being similar to this. There would potentially be material and labour saving costs if we could 'grow' houses; there may also be savings of energy if we design them correctly (e.g. reduced heating and cooling costs, etc). Quite possibly, the house could be 'fed' by our waste.
Symbiosis will be less environmentally damaging, hence more sustainable in the long run.
July 9, 2010 at 5:36 pm
It's at times like this I remember the old saying:
Yes, they laughed at Einstein and they laughed at Edison. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
July 9, 2010 at 5:18 pm
"And then what kind of harsh and costly chemicals will be needed to prevent the living tissue in these structures from rotting and infesting with the regular micro-organisms that decompose flesh to recycle it as nutrients in the overall food chain process."
Possibly the same ones that you need to keep your body from from rotting and infesting with regular micro-organisms and decomposing as you typed that.
It would seem that you're envisioning raw steaks, or beef jerky slapped to the outside of a structure being passed off as a house, but this will be living, growing tissue. Possibly with some kind of immune system.
With a house like this, I could envision a digestive system integrated to provide sustenance to the structure and eliminate household waste like food scraps and even human excreta.
As for aesthetics, I could imagine walls with chameleon like skin capable of changing colors, biolumenescent lights, fur for carpeting, even transparent windows grown like corneas.
Even if not for home dwelling, structures like this could find use in the industrial sector, possibly being used to produce antibiotics, ethical furs or as waste treatment facilities.
This is a very exciting development.
July 9, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I find this concept not only grotesque but completely unsustainable. Why growing valuable and expensive animal cell living material to create home structures? I can see growing cells for medical applications but for home/building construction we should use materials that are low cost and have a minimum life cycle impact as well as risks, such as indigenous natural materials or recyclables offering minimum energy consumption and pollution through the life of the building. Now even if meat buildings are possible I cannot envision them bringing any sustainability whatsoever. In fact I see a Pandora's Box risk from the massive production of animal cell/tissue production that would be required. The creation of living cells would be much more difficult to regulate, and we may have a rise in illegal growth of these living materials. And then what kind of harsh and costly chemicals will be needed to prevent the living tissue in these structures from rotting and infesting with the regular micro-organisms that decompose flesh to recycle it as nutrients in the overall food chain process. This is going directly against Natur's order and balance. I can give it credit as artistic originality but I cannot take it as a serious proposition for product design. This is at best art, but not architecture, I'm sorry.
July 9, 2010 at 4:20 pm
"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"
"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you beginning to get the picture or do I have to start all over?"
"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."
"Thank you. Finally. Yes. They are indeed made out of meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."
"Omigod. So what does this meat have in mind?"
"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the Universe, contact other sentiences, swap ideas and information. The usual."
"We're supposed to talk to meat."
July 9, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Can't wait to see the knockers.
July 9, 2010 at 3:51 pm
just wondering how a home that needs to be fed and watered is more sustainable then 1 that is \"dead\"
July 9, 2010 at 3:32 pm
So how do you keep the house from rotting once it's dead?
July 9, 2010 at 4:12 am
This is great! Now I can start building that Zerg colony I always wanted! Prepare to get zergling rushed, n00bz!
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The bluebirds are back. Returning home from work, I come upon three of them drinking from a puddle in the driveway. They glance up, startled, and then fly off, flashes of iridescent blue in the late afternoon sun.
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The first time I saw a bluebird, I was standing on the doorstep of a local psychic. I had come to interview her for the old daily Knoxville Journal , and my sighting seemed too pointed an omen to ignore. She opened her door, and I said, â"I just saw a bluebird. I've never seen one before. What do you think it means?â" She told me it was a sign of good fortune. She also told me that I had a blue aura, which means loyalty and fidelity. She told me lots of other things, some of which sounded like pure baloney and some of which sounded oddly true. She told me I would get a promotion soon, and in fact, I did. I have forgotten most of what she said, but I remembered the bluebird part.
For years after that, I never saw another one. And then, strangely, they began to appear. I would see them on winter walks in February, season of bare trees and pale skies. They seemed to be in disguise, pecking away at the frozen ground, cloaked in brownish-gray plumage. Then they would take wing, and that heart-stopping cobalt blue would rise above me, and I would feel, just for a second, like a visionary.
I read once that the older you get, the more like yourself you become. I'm mostly Irish, hard-wired for legend and myth, and nature has always held mystery for me. In school, I was a failure at biology and chemistry, recoiling from clinical investigations of the beauty and order of the universe. I preferred the phenomena that defied logic, the events with no reasonable explanation.
Once, struggling with a career decision, I made a sensible list of pros and cons and examined the situation from all angles. I sought advice from wise people. I slept on it. And then, still baffled, I looked for a sign. If I saw a bluebird that day, I would take the new job. By dusk, I had seen none and thought my fate was sealed. As the daylight faded, the doorbell rang. The UPS man handed me a package, an early birthday gift from my youngest son. I opened it and found a beautifully carved wooden bluebird holding a small vase. I took the job. My arid spiritual life began to bloom, my vision to expand. The path, winding stubbornly uphill for so long, smoothed out for a while.
The winter was dark for me this year, the path rocky and treacherous. When I looked out the window one March day and saw two bluebirds perched on the power line, I wondered if it was some trick of my imagination. My bird book tells me they prefer open fields and farmland, that they are rarely sighted in suburban backyards. But as they swooped down and headed for the feeder, there was no mistaking the color of their wings.
They come and go. I have heard that there are special birdhouses you can buy to attract them, special food to lure them into taking up permanent residence. I have invested in neither of these items. I want their motives to be pure. I want them to come because they are bringing me a message. And I want them to stay until I find out what it is.
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Barnett was charged with attempted murder, first-degree assault and use of a firearm in commission of a felony and crime of violence.


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Twitter: To Follow, Or Not to Follow?
This post originally appeared on the Domesticating IT blog and is reproduced with permission from its author.
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous spam,
Or to take arms against a sea of multi-level marketers
And, by opposing, unfollow them.
How many people should you follow on Twitter? And should you automatically follow any one who follows you? If not, how do you decide? I've been asked these questions many times and so it is finally time to write a post about this topic.
How Many Is Enough?
This is not a simple question and there are several schools of thought. In one corner, we have the "less is more" camp who believe that a smaller group of higher quality connections works better. Seth Godin recently endorsed this approach in his blog post "Bullhorns are overrated." And in the other corner, we have the "strength in numbers" camp who believe that if 100 followers is good, then 100,000 followers is, well, a thousand times better. Chris Brogan spoke about what he calls his "serendipity engine" in his post, "Depends How You Define Value."
Personally, I come down more on the serendipity side of the fence. I will follow back just about anyone who is a real person and seems to be using Twitter in a genuine manner.
Is There Any Risk?
There is no overt risk in following someone. It's not the equivalent of granting them access to your computer in any way. However, it does give them the ability to send you a Direct Message (DM), which could conceivably contain a link to a malicious web site. I never click on a link in a DM from someone I don't know. And in most cases, I will immediately un-follow anyone who sends me an unsolicited DM with a link to a web site.
How Do I Decide?
I have a two-layer system for deciding whether or not I will follow someone back. In the first test is to analyze a few metrics directly from the email notification.
- The name is obviously the first thing to look at. If it is something like "Porn Galore" then it's a pretty quick decision. Conversely, it could be a company or brand you don't necessarily have an issue with, but neither are you particularly interested in what they may have to say.
- I look at their follower ratio (number of followers versus number they are following). In this example, there are no particular warning signs, as people with new accounts will frequently start by following a bunch of people. If this ratio is more like 4 (followers) to 800 (following), this is a warning flag to me because it suggests this person is trying to quickly accumulate followers (and likely is using a computer program) and not looking to form connections.
- The second metric is the number of tweets compared to the number of followers. The idea here is that I am looking for people who have built a following over time, not over night. In this case, there's no particular warning flag either.
If none of these three metrics presents any show-stoppers, then I will click on the person's profile and take a look a little more deeply. Keep in mind that between the time when you received the follow message and then visit the profile, those metrics in the email could have changed dramatically so I will take a second look at those first.
- Case in point – notice that now the follower ratio has changed to 12/625. This is now screaming, "Spammer!"
- The next thing I look for is real profile information, like a bio and web page. Taking the time to fill out this information is an indication that the person is genuine. If a web page is there, it can be another warning flag if it looks suspicious.
- Last, but not least, I will examine their Twitter updates to see what they are saying. In this example, we have an obvious spammer who is trying to con people into signing up for programs that may or may not be legitimate. Many of these scams will hijack your Twitter account and send out spam messages.
- Bonus Tip: One other red flag is when the line below the Tweet says, "from API." This means that the Tweet was sent from an automated program and not a person. It's not hard evidence that someone is a spammer, but it's a strong warning sign.
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No. 67 East Tennessee State Men's Tennis Tops Wofford, 5-2
Friday, April 05, 2002Johnson City, Tenn. (Apr. 5, 2002) -- The No. 67-ranked East Tennessee State men's tennis team remained undefeated in conference play by defeating Wofford, 5-2, Friday afternoon from the ETSU Tennis Center in Johnson City, Tenn. The Bucs won the doubles point after sweeping all three matches. The ETSU team of junior Marcos Pavlovich (Otamendi, Argentina) and senior Roberto Fernandez (Cuernavaca, Mexico) defeated the Wofford team of Lee Porter and Brandon Smith at No. 1 singles 8-4. Sophomore Alejandro Salazar (Arequipa, Peru) and Diego Iglesias (Mar del Plata, Aregentina) of ETSU were victorious over Terriers Dial Burwell and Edward Moseley at No. 2 doubles, 9-8. ETSU freshman Federico Ochoa (Manizales, Colombia) and Franciso Diaz (Weston, Fla.) defeated Brett Johnson and Jason Mengel of Wofford at No. 3 doubles, 8-4. At No. 1 singles, ETSU's Pavlovich defeated Wofford's Smith, 6-4, 6-3. Buccaneer Fernandez was victorious over Johnson at No. 2 singles 6-2, 6-1. At No. 3 singles, Wofford's Lee Porter defeated ETSU's Pablo Sahagun (Cuernavaca, Mexico), 6-3, 6-0. ETSU's Salazar defeated Burwell at No. 4 singles to decide the match, 6-1, 4-6, 6-2. The Bucs won the point at No. 5 singles as Moises Serrano (Bucaramanga, Colombia) was victorious over Wofford's Mengel, 6-2, 6-4. Wofford's Alec Wilson defeated ETSU's Ochoa in a tight match 5-7, 7-6, 7-6, at No. 7 singles. The win marks ETSU's fourth straight and runs its record to 11-6, 6-0 in Southern Conference play. "We played well enough to win, but it wasn't pretty. Maybe we underestimated Wofford a little, but they battled well," said ETSU head coach Dave Mullins. "Our guys are doing what it takes to win. Hopefully we will be sharper Sunday and ready for Georgia Southern." The Bucs return to action on Sunday, Apr. 7 at 2:00 p.m. against Georgia Southern from the ETSU Tennis Center in Johnson City, Tenn.
Singles matches: No. 1: Marcos Pavlovich (ETSU) def. Brandon Smith (WC), 6-4, 6-3 No. 2: Roberto Fernandez (ETSU) def. Brett Johnson (WC), 6-2, 6-1 No. 3: Lee Porter (WC) def. Pablo Sahagun (ETSU), 6-3, 6-0 No. 4: Alejandro Salazar (ETSU) def. Dial Burnwell (WC), 6-1, 4-6, 6-2 No. 5: Moises Serrano (ETSU) def. Jason Mengel (WC), 6-2, 6-4 No. 6: Alec Wilson (WC) def. Federico Ochoa (ETSU), 5-7, 7-6, 7-6 Doubles matches: No. 1: Pavlovich/Fernandez (ETSU) def. Porter/Smith (WC) 8-4 No. 2: Iglesias/Salazar (ETSU) def. Burwell/ Moseley (WC) 9-8 No. 3: Ochoa/Diaz (ETSU) def. Johnson/Mengel (WC) 8-4 Team record: #67 East Tennessee State: 11-6, 6-0 Southern Conference
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