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- Rodrigo Lozano
- Rosario, Santa Fe
- Argentina
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How can the average citizen stop crime?
In the city where I live in the police is quite corrupt and many crimes go unpunished. Their response time is also terrible. As a result I began to think that the answer to crime and drug dealing does not lie within our government, but among us, the citizens. So I would like to know, do you know of any way for the average citizen to stop (or help stop) crime?
It doesn't matter if it's at the local, state or national level or if you suggest individual or collective acts, any suggestions will help. Thank you in advance.
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Dec 5 2013: Here is one approach: http://cureviolence.org/
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Dec 5 2013: I've heard about that approach but I had completely forgotten about it. Thank you! My only doubt about it is if it can be applied to a whole city instead of just a neighbourhood. Here there are some neighbourhoods you don't want to get into, of course, but the criminal acts don't necessarily happen within them. They may take place in plain daylight or at midnight, in the city centre or when you are parking your car at home. I guess it's worth further research...
Dec 5 2013: When you asked what citizens could do, I didn't realize you were interested only in citywide initiatives.
Still I see no reason that a program could not be initiated in which groups of people focus on particular neighborhoods.
Dec 6 2013: Oh, no, I was indeed interested in any kind of method, not just citywide ones. I was only wondering. As you say the program could be initiated in neighbourhoods so as to cover the whole city eventually, regardless of how affected they are by crime. It is certainly an idea worth having in mind.
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Dec 5 2013: carolyn, I avoid becoming friends with even minor criminals because I'm afraid that they will just exploit or abuse me in some way.
Dec 5 2013: I think Carolyn is talking more about prevention here. Connecting with someone that is hurting and helping them before they resort to crime (correct me if I'm wrong here Carolyn).
Regarding your fears, well, they are well funded. Still, it may be a partial solution to trust at least minor criminals a little bit to see if they can make a change (and encouraging them to make that change happen too, of course).
Dec 5 2013: I guess a person should do what comes naturally? For me it just doesn't come naturally, at the moment, to associate with bad people. There are enough good people to associate with. Maybe in time I will change.
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Dec 6 2013: well, c, would you be friends with someone you really didn't want to be friends with just to save them from drifting into committing crimes? They would become your "project"?
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Dec 6 2013: I understand now. When Rodrigo asked, I was visualizing violent crime. I don't think of the homeless, drag queens, prostitutes, and certainly not bikers as being particularly prone to serious crime., But you are right that Rodrigo asked his question more generally.
Dec 6 2013: Although I did not specify what type of crime I was talking about I was thinking about violent crime when I wrote it too. But Carolyn here has opened my mind to think of other forms of crime that may also trigger violent behaviour in the future and are often times dwarfed by that same violent crime . So Carolyn, since you have already told us that your lifestyle may not suit everyone, what is there that can be done by ordinary people to support people like you? Your job is truly admirable, by the way, not many people would do that even if they had the guts to.Dec 6 2013: Rodrigo, First of all you know your city of 1,242,000 much better than I do. Since Santa Fe providence abuts the capital providence let me guess ... a lot of drug traffic and growth occurs in your providence. These are very influential and dangerous people. That there is some form of corruption is very believable. That delays are frequent would lend me to believe that assurances are being made that no "toes" are being stepped on. As you suggest vigilante justice may be the answer ... however I urge you to think this through. First it is against the law ... second it would pit you against the authorities ... and third it would be open season for all involved for the drug lords if it in any way interfered with their enterprise. If that happened the response time would go to zero from the authorities. I cannot provide you with a easy quick answer because there is none ... however I do know that you cannot break the law to enforce the law.
The legal process is slow and will require support of elected officials to weed out the police offenders ... however, to do this a new deal will be struck with the drug lords ... to move their operations so as to not impact the locals. Over time this can be done. With the drug dealers outside of the city the response times will get better and better.
The best advice I can offer is that the process is slow and to be very careful. People who have power and egos do not like to have their apple carts turned over ... they tend to get even.
Dec 6 2013: You have proposed quite realistic concerns Robert. I haven't actually thought about these issues before, but here are some of my conclusions after thinking a bit about them:
-Vigilante justice is certainly against the law and I agree with you: it is not an option. Perhaps a different approach is possible. I've seen a few neighbourhoods where some signs have been posted that say: "Watch out. Neighbours on the look out." meaning that they each watch their back. Maybe this concept could be applied to more neighbourhoods, where citizens are ready to call the police in case something happens. Of course, cooperation from the police would be necessary.
-It's nearly impossible to get anything done without the support of the authorities, as you say. Therefore whatever solution is drafted, it mustn't interfere with them. A change of authorities will have to take place slowly, discretely and internally.
-Lastly, it's for sure that the druglords will target whoever tries to shake their business. However, what can they do if the movement has no real leader? Just a collective soul? I heard of a neighbourhood that gathered together and completely dismantled a drug "bunker" (that's how they are called here) all on their own after waiting for a response from the police for months. They simply went there and started tearing it down with hammers.
I would like to know what you think of these three conclusions. Oh, and thank you, you added a lot to the conversation!
Dec 7 2013: It really all boils down to a change in the administration and the police. Don't sell the drug people short. They know more than you think ... they have eyes and ears everywhere.
They do not care if the movement has a leader or not ... they would take someone at random ... torture, question, and kill him or the whole family as a lesson to everyone.
I repeat do not underestimate them.
Do some research and find out if there are any areas that have been reclaimed from corruption and or drug dealers .... how ... results .... any follow up stories.
As in all things ... do your homework ...
Be well. Bob.Dec 8 2013: Dan Ariely has a TED Talk where he talks about the "Honest Truth About Dishonesty."
That truth is that we all cheat a little but that little amounts to a great deal, more than any larger crimes
So if we were all just a little more honest. everything will be collectively better.
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Dec 7 2013: Rodrigo, I am sorry to hear about your friend. That is terrible. I am not familiar with crime committed in Argentina, but I did study criminology here in the US. Perhaps, I can help shed some light on some of the issues you've raised.
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First off, I do not recommend befriending known criminals for just the reasons cited. Many criminals are highly manipulative individuals AND most crime is actually perpetrated against people by people they know. In my opinion, you would be increasing your risk to be a victim of crime, rather than reducing it.
Crime is not a simple subject. One assault is not the same as another. For example, a person attacking a family member is a very different kind of crime than a person assaulting a complete stranger for no reason. Murder, despite common knowledge, actually has one of the lowest recidivism rates of all classes of crime. Only a very small percentage of murderers will commit another murder. Those that do are usually very dangerous people like serial killers or gang members.
All that being said, I am not sure what particular kind of crimes you are looking to deter. But generally speaking, communities can deter crime by creating community watches, by keeping their neighborhood clean and maintained, and by reducing attractive targets. Studies have found that crime occurs in neighborhoods that are poorly maintained where there is an impression that people don't care about their community. Likewise, abandoned buildings, poor lighting, shrubbery blocking the view of windows or doors, etc, are all things that attract criminal activity.
Cameras, signs about community watches, people who actually go out together and patrol, and even getting to know your neighbors so you know when something is out of the ordinary. All those things can help. I think it is admirable that you are trying to find solutions, but do be careful. Especially, if the crime is related to drug trafficking.Dec 7 2013: Make it a TV game where crimes are captured on video and rewards are given for people who are caught. Bonuses given for government officials, for congress or above throw in a family trip to the Bahamas paid directly out of their pension which is probably in the Bahamas also.
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Dec 6 2013: Hi, Carolyn. Who are the "they" or "them" to whom you refer when you write you attempt to be a good role model for "them" or that what you model conflicts with "their" experience? You mention genocide, rape and so forth.
That you are thoughtful, patient, and forgiving, I understand but I do not understand the setting or context to which you are referring in the passage. These practices (of being thoughtful and kind and so forth) in daily life are typically what I would call safe and indeed common among people.
Do you work with people in prisons?Dec 5 2013: If you live in a democratic country, the police should be held accountable. Protests, media campaigns and the involvement of influential social voices would go a long way.
But as they say, "charity begins at home". Since criminals didnt fall from Mars or Venus, families should bring up their children in a way that would make them fit in the society as responsible individuals.
Parents teach a lot by the way they relate with each other at home. The police, being corrupt, is also a reflection of the society.
If crime is to be a thing of the past, it would take a holistic approach by all stakeholders.
Dec 5 2013: You are right about that. The problem is that an irresponsible parent cannot teach responsibility to a kid, and the same applies to any other virtue. So there is no way for a parent to teach something he or she has never known which is the case of many individuals here. I guess the next question would be: how do we teach responsibility to an adult?Dec 5 2013: what are the crimes you are talking about? How do you know they are crimes, are you a student of the law? What makes you sure they go unpunished?
If you see what you think is a crime, and you know or have a suspicion that it has gone unpunished, possibly you should go to a law library and research whether it really is a crime or not.
Dec 5 2013: Any type of crime. Pickpocketing here happens a lot and it certainly is punishable by law but the police is never around to stop it. If you want a more clear example, a friend of mine was stabbed to death a few days ago and the perpetrator, who is a minor, is already out with his parents, who were not punished either. A security camera confirms this.
Those two crimes used to be punished as is dictated by our law (and they didn't use to happen almost at all), so I guess there is no need for me to check in a law library since as far as I know our law hasn't changed in that aspect.
Dec 5 2013: Rodrigo, what is your evidence that pickpocketing happens a lot? Is it just something you hear people say, you can't always believe what people say?
To me it makes sense that the police aren't around to stop a pickpocket. If a pickpocket sees a policeman, he's not going to pickpocket at that time, he's going to wait until the policeman is gone?
I am sorry about your friend. Perhaps the person who stabbed him is out on bail? Here in the U.S., if you have been arrested for a crime and are being held awaiting a trial, you can pay a certain amount of money to the court and be free while you are waiting for trial. If you show up for the trial, you get the bail money back. If you flee, the court gets to keep the money.
I still say you should check laws, you always have more power if you know the laws. It will help you understand the different offenses, you will be able to see which are the more serious and how much punishment your country's system believes they deserve. Who knows, you might get interested and become a lawyer, or a policeman, or a government leader.Dec 5 2013: just as an example, Rodrigo, I wonder which is considered a worse crime in Argentina, pickpocketing, or walking into someone's house through an open door and stealing something?
Dec 6 2013: I see your point, and I would indeed do well in checking the laws. Here's a source you can trust regarding crime in Argentina, I guess you could call it my "evidence": https://www.osac.gov/pages/ContentReportDetails.aspx?cid=13554
Regarding my friend, no, the perpetrator is not out on bail (no money involved). He has been returned to his parents although the judicial authorities have said he is still under their disposal until the investigation is complete and he is found non-guilty.Dec 6 2013: Well, that's an interesting source, Rodrigo. When I went to that source, I tried to see if it would give me a report on the United States (I know, it's an American website), but it would not. I wanted to see how it would describe the one country that I really know, the one where I live, and compare the description to my personal experience.
Sometimes the reputation a place has might not cohere with your experience. For example, I lived in an area called Westlake, in Los Angeles, for about ten years. It is about a mile west of downtown Los Angeles. It is an area that is about 95% Hispanic (I myself am white), with a very large percentage of "illegal immigrants." People who haven't lived there would tell you it is a very rough area, with a great deal of crime. My experience was different, I found there was some petty crime, particularly graffiti, but generally I felt pretty safe there, and was not the victim of crime. So I sometimes don't trust the reputation a place has.
One way I stayed safe in Westlake was I hardly ever went out at night, in fact that is my lifestyle, I go to bed very early, about 6 PM, and rise very early, 3AM. Nighttime is the most dangerous and weirdest. Was your friend killed at night?
So there is camera footage of this person killing your friend? Have you actually seen this footage, perhaps it doesn't show what you think it does? Why would he be found non-guilty if there is film of him committing the crime?
On the report you linked, I noticed there is less crime in the rural areas of Argentina. What do you think about moving to the country for a less crimeful life, I think country living is the best. Let the city folks tear each other to shreds while you enjoy fresh milk and fine hay?
In America I believe the police work closely with attorneys, in fact I believe many police stations have an attorney who has an office right within the station.......Dec 6 2013: and this way the police stay very informed on the law, and they can use their knowledge of the law as they fight crime, they can make sure they are staying within the law and upholding the law. I wonder if this is the case in Argentina, perhaps you can find out, and, if it is not the case, push for some change?
Since I walk a lot, I have been assaulted a few times on the streets of America. One time, after I was assaulted, I read a book on how to be safe on the street. One thing they recommended is, when you are walking, to occasionally do a 180-degree turn to see what is going on behind you and around you. I follow this advice, and I find it helps me feel safer on the street.
Rodrigo, I have heard that police in United States make a good salary, and that helps account for why our police are relatively uncorrupt. Maybe you should look into how Argentinean police are paid, and compare it to other countries. If you find they are low paid, perhaps you could push for their pay to be increased. But I don't know how that works, if police in the U.S. are well-paid, you would think other countries could pay their police well and would already be doing it, if they are not doing it one would wonder why?
Dec 7 2013: I understand exactly what you mean. A few days ago a friend of mine told me she couldn't believe I went back and forth through a certain street with my laptop and that nothing ever happened to me. I never felt unsafe nor have I ever seen any type of crime during business hours in that street.
My friend was indeed murdered at night. The camera footage is not accessible by civilians, according to a local newspaper it's being "analysed". Moving to the countryside is not an option for me, as I'll go to college and it requires that I'm in the city centre for a great part of the day. Classes can sometimes end at 11 pm. I should clarify: night time here is perceived different than in the USA, most people go to sleep at 11 pm and it's normal for dance clubs to close at 5 in the morning. Night time is very lively here in the city but it's also more dangerous, you don't want to be alone at any given time.
As far as I know, attorneys don't work with the police here, only prosecutors do and they only show up if a crime occurs and they are needed. The police here don't earn much, nor is their training deep: they barely have self-defence classes and the training lasts about 2 years. They are given equipment but they have to pay for that equipment if it gets stolen, lost or if it's used (police officers buy their own bullets). The police is managed by the state, which doesn't receive much money from the national government (it's rumoured that it's due to political differences despite there being a law that demands a certain amount) so I guess an increase in their salary cannot happen.Dec 7 2013: Yeah, it is a little hard for me to have this conversation with you at a distance, Rodrigo, because I don't live there to even see what the situation is. Possibly you should be having this conversation with the people around you, your family and friends, getting their opinions and trading ideas, since they and you really know the situation.
Even if it is the trend to go out at night, I would still encourage you to avoid it. You know what they say, if the majority of people walked off a cliff and fell to their death, would you follow them just to be part of the crowd? Going to bed early and rising early is healthy and positive. If noone ever went out at night, it would reduce crime, wouldn't it, and make for a healthier atmosphere?
Now did you say the film definitely shows a particular person killing your friend? And yet the person will be found "not guilty"? How does that work, is it some kind of political thing, or..........?
What are you studying at college? How important is it to you? I am 53, I have had many kinds of life experience. I have studied at the finest universities, and have a degree from Stanford, one of the best. But I really do believe the best life is the country life. It is wholesome, and, also, it is interesting, succeeding in agriculture is challenging and intellectually stimulating, would you agree? Do you like to eat, and are you interested in food, if so this might draw you to agriculture. You actually can go to school in agriculture, there are things called "agricultural colleges."
Rodrigo, I'm going to find out more about how attorneys work with the police here. I had made the statement that some police stations have attorneys working right at the station, but the statement was based on only hearing this as a rumor, and only about one station. I would think attorneys would have to work with the police because the law does change, and the police have to stay abreast of the changes.Dec 7 2013: Now you're saying that political differences are causing the police not to get paid as much? What are these "political differences," and what is the connection to officer pay?
Possibly, Rodrigo, you should be happy that you don't have a big drug cartel problem in Argentina. Living in southern California, we get a lot of news from Mexico, and it seems they are having real problems with cartels. Part of the blame falls to the United States, as our illegal narcotic demand fuels illicit production in Mexico.


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The "perfect storm of budget uncertainty" howling around his department is the biggest immediate threat facing the U.S. military, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta told reporters in Washington, D.C., Jan. 11.
Panetta and Army Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, stressed during a regular Pentagon press conference that unless Congress acts, the nation's military readiness will be compromised.
The United States has a number of adversaries around the world, Panetta said, "but the most immediate threat to our ability to achieve our mission is fiscal uncertainty: not knowing what our budget will be; not knowing if our budget will be drastically cut; and not knowing whether the strategy that we put in place can survive."
Panetta emphasized that DOD "is doing its part" by implementing over the next decade the $487 billion spending reduction set by Congress. "We designed a strategy; we know what the elements of that strategy are; we built a budget based on that, and we achieved our savings by virtue of that strategy," he said.
But the additional half-trillion-dollar "meat-axe cuts" sequester would trigger still loom "less than 50 days away," the secretary noted.
"While we appreciate … that both parties came together to delay sequester, the unfortunate thing is sequester itself, and the sequester threat, [was] not removed," Panetta said. "And the prospect … is undermining our ability to responsibly manage this department."
Two other fiscal crises are meanwhile converging on the nation's forces, he added:
- Because Congress didn't approve an appropriations act for fiscal 2013, DOD has been operating under a continuing resolution and will do so at least through March 27. The continuing resolution funds operations at fiscal 2012 levels, instead of the higher proposed fiscal 2013 levels Pentagon officials had anticipated.
- The debt-ceiling crisis, Panetta said, "could create even further turmoil that could impact on our budget and our economy."
Looking at all three factors, the secretary said simply, "We have no idea what the hell is going to happen." But DOD leaders do know that the worst-case scenario would mean "serious harm" to military readiness, he said.
Panetta noted defense strategy places the highest priority on operations and maintenance funding as the key to a ready force. He described the triple threat facing those funds:
- If Congress fails to pass an appropriations bill for fiscal 2013 and instead extends the continuing resolution through the fiscal year, "overall operating accounts would decrease by about 5 percent … about $11 billion that would come out of [operations and maintenance funds]."
- If sequester occurs, "We would have to cut, in this fiscal year, another 9 percent, almost $18 billion from … these operating accounts as well."
- To protect funding for the war in Afghanistan from required cuts, "We would again have to cut another 5 percent, another $11 billion, from readiness money available in the active-duty base budget, and more for the Army and the Marine Corps."
Panetta summed up: "We're looking at a 19 to 20 percent reduction in the base budget operating dollars for active units, including a cut of what looks like almost 30 percent for the Army."
The secretary said practical results of these cuts would be less training for units not imminently deploying to Afghanistan; less shipboard training for all but the highest priority missions; less pilot training and fewer flight hours; curtailed ship maintenance and disruption to research and weapons modernization programs.
Civilian employees would also take a hit, he said: unpaid layoffs, which the government calls furloughs, would put civilian employees temporarily out of work. This "would further harm our readiness, and create hardship on them and their families," Panetta noted.
A plan is in place to implement such layoffs if sequester happens, the secretary said. "This action is strictly precautionary," he said. "I want to make that clear: It's precautionary. But I have an obligation to … let Congress know that we may have to do that, and I very much hope that we will not have to furlough anyone. But we've got to be prepared to do that if we face this situation."
Panetta said the net result of sequester under a continuing resolution would be "what I said we should not do with the defense budget, which is to hollow out the defense force of this nation." Rather than let that happen, Panetta added, DOD leaders have decided to take steps to minimize the damage that would follow Congressional inaction.
"We still have an obligation to protect this country," the secretary said. "So for that reason, I've asked the military services and the other components to immediately begin implementing prudent measures that will help mitigate our budget risk."
Panetta said he has directed any actions taken "must be reversible to the extent feasible and must minimize harmful effects on readiness."
But, he added, "We really have no choice but to prepare for the worst." First steps to containing budget risk will include cutting back on facility maintenance, freezing civilian hiring and delaying some contract awards, the secretary said.
Panetta has also directed the services to develop detailed plans for how they will implement sequester-triggered cuts, if required, he said, "because there will be so little time to respond in the current fiscal year. I mean, we're almost halfway through the fiscal year."
The secretary said the intensive planning effort now under way will ensure the military is prepared to accomplish its core missions.
"I want to emphasize, however, that … no amount of planning that we do can fully offset the harm that would result from sequestration, if that happens," he added.
Panetta said U.S. service members are working and fighting, and some are dying, every day.
"Those of us in Washington need to have the same courage as they do to do the right thing and try to protect the security of this country," he added. "We must ensure we have the resources we need to defend the nation and meet our commitments to our troops, to our civilian employees, and to their families, after more than a decade of war."
Congress must pass a balanced deficit reduction plan, de-trigger sequester, and pass the appropriations bills for fiscal 2013, he said.
"I'm committed to do whatever I can in the time I have remaining [in office] to try to work with the Congress to … resolve these issues," Panetta said. "We have a vital mission to perform, one that the American people expect and that they are entitled to, which is to protect their safety and to protect our national security. Congress must be a partner in that mission. I'd love to be able to do this alone, but I can't."
Dempsey offered his view of what wreckage the fiscal "storm" would leave behind.
"As I've said before, sequestration is a self-inflicted wound on national security," the chairman said. "It's an irresponsible way to manage our nation's defense. It cuts blindly, and it cuts bluntly. It compounds risk, and it … compromises readiness. In fact, readiness is what's now in jeopardy. We're on the brink of creating a hollow force, the very thing we said we must avoid."
Dempsey noted sequestration may now "hit" while the department, under a continuing resolution, is also implementing "the deep cuts already made in the Budget Control Act" and fighting a war in Afghanistan.
"Any one of these would be a serious challenge on its own," Dempsey said. "Together, they set the conditions for readiness to pass a tipping point as early as March."
DOD won't shortchange those in combat, and will resource those who are next to deploy while still caring for wounded warriors and their families, the chairman said.
"But for the rest of the force, operations, maintenance and training will be gutted," Dempsey said. "We'll ground aircraft, return ships to port, and sharply curtail training across the force. … [W]e may be forced to furlough civilians at the expense of maintenance and even health care. We'll be unable to reset the force following a decade of war."
Military readiness will begin to erode immediately, Dempsey said, telling reporters, "Within months, we'll be less prepared. Within a year, we'll be unprepared."
The crisis "can and must be avoided, the sooner, the better," the chairman said.
"We need budget certainty; we need time to absorb the budget reductions; we need the flexibility to manage those reductions across the entire budget," he said. "We have none of these things right now. And without them, we have no choice but to steel ourselves for the consequences."


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Last month, Colin Thomas Bowie, 46, of Jones Mill Road, was sentenced to 30 years, half of it suspended, for the crime, which took place on Jan. 1, 2012.
City of Fairfax Police Detective Michael Boone said Bowie entered the restaurant, which is on Fairfax Boulevard, at around 6:10 a.m. New Year's Day.
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"We got some information from an informant which led us to him," Boone told The Gazette.
Bowie was charged with abduction, armed robbery, using a firearm in the commission of a felony, and impersonating a law enforcement officer, Boone said.
Bowie pleaded guilty to robbery, according to his sentencing order, which stated he had parole violations for crimes in Stafford County and the city of Fredericksburg, Va. In Maryland, he faces parole violations for an armed robbery charge that took place in 2000.
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Even minus Kelly, Duke returns to No. 1
Duke doesn't have all the pieces from the team that earned college basketball's No. 1 ranking earlier this season.
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After one week out of the top spot, Duke was voted No.1 in the new Associated Press Top 25 poll.
The Blue Devils (16-1, 3-1 in the ACC) had been No. 1 for four weeks from late December until they suffered their lone loss, an 84-76 setback at N.C. State on Jan. 12.
Duke was ranked No. 3 last week behind No.1 Louisville and No. 2 Indiana. When both those teams dropped conference home games, the Blue Devils moved back into the top spot, gaining the most first-place votes (39) from the 65-member national media panel.
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Jefferson, an athletic 6-8 forward, turned in a sold performance in Duke;s 73-57 win over Georgia Tech last Thursday night. Jefferson played 28 minutes off the bench, compared to Hairston's 11 despite being a starter. Jefferson had 10 rebounds, including six on the offensive end.
But he also committed four fouls. In Duke's first game after Kelly's injury, at N.C. State, Jefferson fouled out.
Krzyzewski said that's a sign of how difficult it is for a talented high school player to adjust to the high-level college game.
"For big guys, they've never had to play defense like they have to play in college in high school," Krzyzewski said. "It's the most dramatic difference for a big guy, much more than a point guard or a wing player, is how you adjust and what's allowed, when can you put a forearm on, when does the forearm have to be off, verticality, making sure your hands are straight up. And then sometimes it comes where people who are officiating the game have to get accustomed to you."
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Monday's AP poll offered another wrinkle for Duke as Miami moved into the rankings at No. 25. The Hurricanes (13-3, 4-0) lead the ACC and will welcome Duke to the Bank United Center on Wednesday night (7 p.m., ESPN).


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Atheism is the disbelief in any God or deities but does that include a creative energy form we perceive or call a God?
Atheism shouldn't be confused with agnosticism as agnosticism relates to doubting the existence of God because we can't prove if a God exists or not but atheism just doesn't doubt the existence of Gods & deities but refutes their existence period without evidence to the contrary.
I suppose I'm agnostic however I do believe we have come from an intelligent creative energy form of some kind, unless proven to the contrary that's what I think at this time in my life & of course I could be wrong like anyone else.
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Apr 15 2013: Hi Mathew,
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I relate to your position. It would seem obvious from the extreme organisation of planet earth would indicate some form of design or foreknowledge. I guess each Atheist would need to answer for him/her self. What made the difference to me was the answer to the question, "Does the bible accurately relate the history of planet earth?". For me it does, & that from before much of it had happened. I understand this is not a universal experience, but that is the difference between the believer & non-believer.
Apr 16 2013: G'day Peter
I think atheists would & could believe in a creative energy form if it wasn't labelled a God or divine entity as it wouldn't go against their beliefs. I know I lot of atheists don't like anyone saying that it's a belief they have but it is as they believe God or divine entities don't exist, to believe denotes a belief.
It seems a little silly to me for an atheist to disbelieve in one intelligent creative conscious form created everything but they will believe that matter & anti-matter created everything even though we don't know where this matter & anti-matter came from in the first place but of course we know that matter & anti-matter exist but we don't know yet scientifically that one intelligent creative consciousness exists but I believe science as it evolves will one day answer such a question.
MathewApr 29 2013: Good to see we've solved the problem of atheism.
I'm sure most of my friends would call me an atheist, because I don't use the concept of gods for anything other than historical, social, or psychological discussions. As a subject of discussion, however, belief in gods is actually very interesting to me, though I'm constantly surprised at the number of people that seem to believe in only one god. That seems very limiting.
I've spent much of my life working in the natural sciences, and it seems to me that neither science nor any other discipline will ever "prove" either the existence or non-existence of gods, Richard Dawkins' folly notwithstanding. If gods are (or "If God is") transubstantial, immaterial beings, it would seem that a scientific program to determine their existence would need to be able to measure the transubstantial and immaterial, a tall order that I don't see coming down the pike. So we seem to be left with believing or not believing, as each individual chooses.
I - the atheist - am not at all opposed to a belief in God, to the degree that the belief aids someone who has a need for a being that gives comfort in pain and who will hear their difficulties. That can be of great help to many, and I don't see a problem with it. I do have a problem with the fact that organized religions have divided mankind into camps that are willing and anxious to kill one another for their gods. People seem to have forgotten that Belief means just that - belief. Not fact, not truth, but belief. It should always be held with a measure of uncertainty and doubt, and it never justifies harming those who believe differently.
To those who see a grand intelligence as the logical answer to "What made the universe?" I would say that logic would further demand that we ask, "What made this grand intelligence?" Etc, etc. The churches answer, "It's a mystery." Perhaps that's the only answer we can manage: It's a mystery.Apr 25 2013: This can be of some help and relevance in this thread:
Most respondents of this survey define themselves as secularists that is - opposing the theocratic character, philosophy or focus at e.g. schools, courts or other state-dependent entities.Apr 25 2013: Based on definition, everyone who did not subscribe to the national or state god was considered an atheist in that time. Yet the definition of God has always remained fluid. Today's atheists choose to disbelieve the current definition of God as a male deity. And although it can't be proved that such a deity doesn't exist, neither can it be proved that the current definition is in any way more correct than all preceding definitions.
Fundamentalists choose to explain God by that which cannot be explained. If the inception of the big-bang cannot be explained, then they take this as evidence that God must exist. But such a view tells us nothing about God, nor does it in any way validate the current definition.
I had an experience while meditating on God. In the experience, I was instructed to stop looking for what is not there and start looking to what is. If I wanted to know who the creator was, I had to look at what was doing the creating. The idea of God as a male deity has since dissolved in my way of thinking and has transformed itself into quantum energy fields. They are everywhere. They are invisible. They are the alpha and the omega. They are perfect. They are the source from which all knowledge is based. They have the very qualities that the ancient ones used to describe God. But they don't substantiate the current definition, which is anchored in fundamentalist views.Apr 20 2013: I think the problem is how do you define God.
I do believe in something beyond my comprehension and impersonal, that in some way designed the universe and the laws. This is just a believe and I can not actually prove this because as I said, this something is beyond my comprehension.
Is this God? Well, that is my conception of God. This is how I define the God that I believe exists or existed. Then I am not an atheist.
When someone asked me, whether I believe in a God who loves me, whom I can talk to, who will punish me if I don't behave, then the answer is no, and I am an atheist.
Either way, I am irreligious. Sometimes I claimed to be a deist to avoid explaining too much, and I came from a country where atheism is not accepted.Apr 20 2013: G'day Fellow TED Followers
I'm not going to be hear myself in 9d's time so I wish to thank everyone for there input in this, not quite the response I thought I would get however.
MathewApr 16 2013: Despite our general aversion to labels, we must recognize that words are all we have. Concise, clear communication (exchange of information) depends upon words. We really can't each make-up our own meaning for terms. Therefore, I offer the following for your consideration:DISTINCTIVES OF BELIEFS WITHIN ATHEISM3 Types: (Source: MIT course 24.00 Problems in Philosophy Fall 2010). 1) Rational Atheism: There is a rational basis (sound reasons) for not believing in God.2) Arational Atheism: There is no rational basis for not believing in God, but do not believe anyway.3) Irrational Atheism: There is a rational basis for believing God exists, but do not believe anyway.2 Levels (a): (Flew, Antony in The Presumption of Atheism.)1. Positive Atheism: Positively asserts the non-existence of God.2. Negative Atheism: Chooses to be non-Theist due to absence of evidence for Theism.2 Levels (b): (Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance-2007 Definitions of the Term "Atheism")1. Strong or Hard or Positive Atheism: Strongly asserts the impossibility of the existence of any deity(s).2. Weak or Soft or Negative Atheism: Does not insist deity(s) cannot exist, but rejects Theism due to absence of proof.DEFINITIONS:Atheism: ~Disbelief in the existence of god or gods. Oxford Concise English Dictionary.~A disbelief in the existence of deity. Merriam-Webster Dictionary.~Rejection of belief in God or gods. World English Dictionary.~From Gk. atheos without God. Online Etymology Dictionary.~Denial that there is a God. The American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy.~The belief that there is no God. (Webster's New World Dictionary).~The belief that there is no God. (The World Book Encyclopedia Dictionary).
Apr 16 2013: G'day Edward
Thanks for that Edward that was quite informative, they seem to be saying the same exact thing so there couldn't be any confusion in what being an atheist means. My question is Edward could an atheist believe in a creative energy form as apposed to a God or divine being? Atheists believe matter & anti-matter created the universe but they have no idea where this matter & anti-matter came from in the first place. What I find funny is some of these atheist blindly believe matter & anti-matter were just there & some how collided with no apparent force to make them do so in the first place.
It is funny a lot of new age spiritualists don't like labels , that would be fine if we weren't human but we are & labels define who & what we are especially before becoming spiritual which few of us will as there is a huge difference to one being spiritually aware to one being an actual spiritualist.
I believe myself that everything is of the spiritual but a lot of spiritually aware people define what they won't to be spiritual not what is which has nothing to do with this oneness that they also talk about in the same breath. If we didn't label a spiritually aware person from an actual spiritualist everyone would be calling themselves incorrectly a spiritualist which is happening today but their not.
Something even more funnier is these people have problems with labelling, the ego & judgment which infer conflict, true spirituality has no conflicts at all with anything as it's all accepting.
MathewApr 15 2013: Hello Matthew (again!)
Another great question of yours!
I do understand this question, for I have often felt that the universe is special in some way.
In the way the universe is inter connected. In the way Einstiens theory of relativity can just fit on a inch of square paper. It is amazing how we can find order in such a random universe, the universe doesn't have to be this way. Look up golden ratio : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
Very interesting!
Apr 16 2013: G'day Bernard
In actual fact my friend you impelled me to ask such a question.
Very interesting link Bernard not that I'm very mathematically literate but I really didn't think of it this way before, it makes so much sense of course.
The universe is indeed connected but I won't go as far as saying it's one like a few spiritually aware people believe, one slight variant in vibrational frequency from one to another puts paid to this however everything has come from the same source like with matter & anti-matter which gives it a oneness feel about it. We are all creators in our own right with different modes of thought which give us holistic & individualistic realities to experience by. If we all had the same exact mode of thought this reality would be somewhat different I believe.
MathewApr 15 2013: It seems that there have been many ways of conceptualizing atheism over hundreds of years and that some writers prefer not to consider a yes/no definition but rather think in terms of a continuum of belief. Within many religious labels- whether Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, Atheist or presumably others, some people in the grouping don't think others should share that label with them.
My view is that your relationship with your belief system is individual and that a person can call himself whatever he thinks fits.
I would have thought that if you believe you come from an "intelligent creative energy form we perceive or call a God," that wouldn't correspond to what most people would think of atheism.
Apr 15 2013: Agree Fritzie...our relationship with our beliefs is individual, and a person can call him/herself whatever s/he chooses. I like to call myself an explorer. I've never liked labels very much....seems limiting to me:>)Apr 16 2013: G'day Fritzie
Our belief system is our mode of thought so who can say if one mode of thought is wrong or right over another, has one mode of thought got the right to say to another mode of thought your wrong? Is a person who live their lives by consumerist materialism right or wrong over a Buddhists mode of thought even though consumerist materialism is destroying our environment at an alarming rate? Not in my mind because it's just another mode of thought people like living by, this is our free will.
If you didn't call this creative energy form a God but just realised this is where everything was created from without libelling it like matter & anti-matter wouldn't that give an atheist grounds to believe, they believe in matter & anti-matter created the universe why not another creative energy form or type that might have created matter & anti-matter in the first place without labelling it a God? I think they could believe in this.


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Wednesday, November 19, 2003JOHNSON CITY, TENN. (Nov. 19, 2003) - The Golf Coaches Association of America announced on Wednesday that longtime East Tennessee State University golf coach Fred Warren will be inducted into the GCAA Hall of Fame. Warren, along with Kent State's Herb Page and Clemson's Larry Penley, will be honored at the GCAA Hall of Fame Reception on Jan. 28, 2004, in Orlando, Fla. In 1980, the GCAA began inducting outstanding college golf coaches into the Hall of Fame. To be selected to the Hall of Fame, a coach must be nominated by his peers, and then selected by the GCAA Hall of Fame Committee. Selection criteria not only include a coach's record on the golf course, but his contributions to the game, student-athletes and school. "This is one of the top honors a college golf coach can receive," Warren said. "What makes this so special for me is that so many of my mentors, who are coaches that I looked up to and learned from, are in the Hall of Fame. I feel privileged to be included with these men. I'm certainly humbled and honored." Since his arrival in 1986, the Fred Warren-led East Tennessee State University men's golf program has been a consistent performer among the nation's elite, finishing in the NCAA top-13 six times and in the top-25 10 times since 1989 - including a third-place finish at the 1996 NCAA Championships and a ninth-place finish in 2001. In addition, Warren's Bucs have captured 11 Southern Conference championships during that span. In the past 18 seasons, Warren's Buc squads have won 36 tournaments, including the 2001 NCAA East Regional at Williamsburg, Va., with a record 36-hole par score. During the 2000-01 season, his squad won four tournaments, including three straight from April to May. Even more impressive, his 1995-96 team won six events, tying national champion Arizona State and Florida for the most tournament wins during the year, and was ranked as the No. 1 team in the country during part of the season. Just three years after arriving in Johnson City, Warren returned ETSU to the top of the Southern Conference, a position where the Bucs have remained for 11 of the past 15 years. Warren has led the Bucs to league titles from 1989-92, 1994-96, 1998, 1999, 2000 and once again in 2001. The Bucs advanced to the NCAA Championships in 1989, 1992 and from 1994 to 2001. Warren is a seven-time winner of Southern Conference Coach-of-the-Year honors (1989, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 1998 and 1999) and has twice earned NCAA District Coach-of-the-Year mention (1989 and 1996). He was a runner-up for National Coach-of-the-Year honors following the 1995-96 season. During his tenure at ETSU, Warren has coached 15 All-America selections and 29 All-Southern Conference choices. He has coached seven of the past 13 Southern Conference Individual Medalists and 10 SoCon Players-of-the-Year. Warren joined the Buccaneer program from collegiate golf power Oklahoma State, where he served as an assistant coach. During his tenure in Stillwater, the Cowboys won three Big Eight championships and finished as NCAA Tournament runners-up on three occasions. Warren began his head coaching career at Texas Christian University, where he led both the men's and women's programs from 1979-84. While at TCU, his Horned Frog men's team finished fourth at the 1980 NCAA Championships and posted a 27th-place finish in 1983. That year he became the first coach to ever place a men's and women's team in the NCAA Tournament field during the same season. He guided the women to the 1983 NCAA title and a runner-up finish the previous year. He was named Southwest Conference Men's Coach-of-the-Year in 1980 and was the SWC Women's Coach-of-the-Year choice in 1983. In October 2000, Warren was inducted into the TCU Horned Frog Hall of Honor and in 2003 was named a TCU Legend. Warren has taught in Golf Digest Instruction Schools, in the Oklahoma State Golf Schools, the North Carolina Golf Schools, the Georgia Academy of Golf, at Purdue University and at the NIKE All-Star Golf Camp. He is currently a member of the NCAA Division I Men's Golf Committee. He has served as Chair of the NCAA District 3 North Golf Committee, as the Chair of the Southern Conference Golf Coaches and as a Chair of the All-America Selection Committee. Warren also has served on the Golf Coaches Association of America Ethics Committee. In addition, Warren and WCYB-TV anchor Paul Johnson began an instructional series in 1998 called "Grip It and Rip It," winning an award from the Tennessee Associated Press for their work. Warren played his collegiate golf at UCLA while earning a bachelor of arts degree in speech. 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