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Creativity, Innovation, and Change are Side Effects of Empathizing (Please read the description before replying)
There's a story that goes behind this question, so please watch the following video to understand what I mean by the idea. It will save us a lot of time sorting through the misunderstandings: http://vimeo.com/36629796
Also, here's an operational definition of "empathy" I'd like to use for this particular conversation:
"A capacity to viscerally imagine the current physical (or sometimes mental) state of an other, and as an extension their future actions. Who or what this other is depends solely on your own personal limits of empathy. It could be a person, an animal, a plant, an object, or a piece of script, or even your own body. An other is simply anything and everything we do not fully understand. So even ourselves are a subject of empathy as we often have to try and understand ourselves."
It is explained more in this video: http://vimeo.com/36629754
Feb 28 2012: "Creativity, innovation, and transformation--these are all side-effects of our abilities and desire to empathize"
That is what the guy said in the video, if I remember correctly. It's a statement that I agree with, with the caveat that the aforementioned processes are not only byproducts of our desire to empathize with others, but also of our need to be empathized with by others. Splitting hairs maybe, but I think it's important to note that. By expressing ourselves in works of art that contain our crystallized feelings and attitudes, we are revealings parts of ourselves to the public in the hope that others will identify with them (empathize); by visiting an art museum, we are effectively providing that service for others.
It's a little bit harder to link innovation to empathy, because innovation is something that can be done in the absence of any empathic impulse. For instance, a man on a deserted island with a paucity of supplies may be forced by necessity to find new ways to use old things, which would be a form of innovation. However, no one could claim that he did this in order to connect with others. Still, some instances of innovation (like the invention of social media, for example) definitely have empathic dimensions to them.
Change is the most capacious concept of all that you're suggesting is linked to empathy, but like innovation, there are definitely types of change that are connected with it. So I agree with the idea generally, although I think you have to allow for nuance and say that not all instances of change and innovation are merely side effects of empathizing.Feb 25 2012: I have ethnic artists and your common run of the mill artists in my family and from what i can gather during their creative periods it's the ethnic artists that project themselves deep into their creations more so as it's culturally inspired but contemporary and with my culture we assign spirit to all our creations.
I'm with linda on this,empathy is the ability to look through anothers eyes and look back at yourself but not through yourself,it's usually easier to have a strong instinct for it or a strong interest for it,well that's how i define the word,my experiences with social workers,caregivers,nurses have a high quotient for it, social workers tend to be overwhelmed by the full force of what they have to deal with on a day to day basis and it can affect them more.
Feb 25 2012: Hi Ken! Did you watch the video? http://vimeo.com/36629796
The only way I've been able to explain what I am trying to say is with a story, and the video tells that story.
I don't disagree with anything you're saying, yet you make it sound as if you're disagreeing, so all I'm trying to do is resolve the discrepancies.
Feb 26 2012: We pay for our bandwith so i've been waiting for it to download and i've only just watched it now."Click" excellent video work and your story mirrored mine when i was very young and had to deal with a similar situation,for me i was trying to fix the problem which is inherent with all us males,i think it's DNA.
I've always associated empathy with living beings and i thought you "wanted?" to "add?" or widen it's definition to include the inanimate.I'm still alittle confused but i put that down to not having the experience that you have with the creative and r&d industries,i take it you saw or felt that "missing something" or blackhole within those areas to feel strongly enough to try and find what it is.
Please don't take this the wrong way as i could never put together any sort of video work like what you did,it shows your level of experience but it felt like i was watching an american advert,i think it was the piano,i had to keep flicking back to the last part a good five times and i know i'm going to watch it again.
If you could could you give some examples of where we can see this "missing something" in play?I realise this could be impossible but i thought i would ask just in case.
I've just read your last post and it all "Clicked" so ignore what i've just wrote above.
Feb 26 2012: Ah, I didn't realize you had to be sensitive to your bandwidth usage. Sorry about that, I was being insensitive.
Your critique of the piano track is spot on. I realized that after I had posted the video. Live and learn, I guess. :) All subsequent videos I've made that explains the idea in more detail used much more subtle sound track.Feb 25 2012: Well many people like to create or make things to entertain themselves, not necessarily to impress others. We make things to please and feed our curiosity and discover how things work so then we can use it to our benefit. But yeah i agree with you, a lot of things that we make could be to empathize with others, but not all.
Feb 25 2012: Hi Jessica,
I have a feeling that everyone is replying to the conversation right after reading the title, and not reading the rest. :)
Perhaps your definition of empathizing is a bit different from mine. I could be wrong, so please correct me if that is indeed the case.
In my definition, the act of empathizing is something that can be done with an other whom you have yet to empathize with, who we don't yet fully understand. That other can be a fellow human being, a piece of wood, an imaginary character in a play, or even your own body. Even ourselves are those we have to empathize with, because we don't fully understand who we are.
Did you watch the video? I go more in depth with what I mean there: https://vimeo.com/36629796
Let me know if I am making my thoughts clearer. I have much to learn from everyone such that I can do that.
Feb 28 2012: I didn't know at first that the person in the video was you =p for some reason, I just did not make that connection until now lol.
But yeah! I suggest that you include *your* definition of 'empathy' in your introductory post, or else you will have to keep making this same reply to every post =/ Even after watching the video that you recommended in your OP, it was not clear that you were using a different definition of the word empathy than the standard one that most repliers (including myself) had in mind.
Feb 28 2012: Ha ha, yeah I should do that. :DFeb 24 2012: Um no. Creativity and making are solitary journeys. They are journeys of your own soul.
Empathy is a journey you take with another soul.
I say this from experience. In my work, part of what I do involves empathy. Every day. I work to understand the experience of others, based on my previous experience of understanding others in similar situations. I am very good at this and can do it quickly. It can exhaust a soul. (And to make it more complex, I learned to empathize with those who cannot speak. Try that sometime.)
So to energize an exhausted soul, I create. I go by myself to create and make and renew. I have to do this by myself because others will detract from what I am trying to accomplish. To create from a place where there are no words, where there is no time. To make is to ESCAPE empathy.
Feb 24 2012: Hi Linda,
I sense a similar train of thought in your response as I have with David's.
Perhaps your definition of empathizing is a bit different from mine. I could be wrong, so please correct me if that is indeed the case.
In my definition, the act of empathizing is something that can be done with an other who you have yet to empathize with, who we don't yet fully understand. That other can be a fellow human being, a piece of wood, an imaginary character in a play, or even your own body. Even ourselves our those we have to empathize with, because we don't fully understand who we are.
Did you watch the video? I go more in depth with what I mean. https://vimeo.com/36629796
Let me know if I am making my thoughts clearer. I have much to learn from everyone such that I can do that.
Feb 25 2012: Mr Lim
I think the problem may be that part of the English definition of empathy is that it is shared feelings between you and another being. It cannot be shared feelings between a block of wood or a blank paper because wood and paper have not feelings. You cannot empathize with yourself because you experience your own feelings.
Key to empathy is sharing feelings between two beings capable of feeling.
Feb 25 2012: Yes, now were' having a conversation! :)
Our general study of human being's capacity to empathize has only recently (60s) become a subject of interest for many scientists. And only very recently (90s) become a subject of neurological testing, etc..
My thesis is that we are capable of empathizing with just about anything we choose to. Some are easier to empathize than others because there's a lot of attributes shared. (people whom we share values with, people who look like us, people who like things we like, etc... ) Some are harder to empathize because there needs to be a lot of layers of translation. (people who we don't share values with, people who look different from us, people who don't like things we like, etc..)
But if my own experience is of any testament (i.e. having moved across disciplines from music to science to business to design to art) it's a matter of how much we care to empathize, not a lack of potential.
And now here's where it gets really interesting...
The subject of our ability to empathize goes way beyond other human beings.
What many artists do is they empathize with raw materials like wood, metal, paint, clay, etc... I know this can sound bizarre at first, but that's because you think of empathizing as feeling the feelings of another person. That's not rigorous enough of a definition.
When I use the word empathy, I'm really talking about an ability to viscerally imagine an other's current state of being as well as their future actions by conjuring up and synthesizing one's own embodied knowledge through a heightened awareness of the present. It has a lot to do with your own ability to imagine. And this other is anything and anyone whom we have yet to empathize with. Including even ourselves.Feb 25 2012: So if we disagree on the definition of empathy, that's fine. We can move on to another conversation.
But if you want to have a conversation about the idea I am proposing, _just_ for the sake of this particular conversation, I would love it if you could use the definition I propose and explore what we can both learn from the conversation.
The point of a conversation I am proposing is not whether we can agree or disagree, but rather what can we learn about each other through the conversation. Having a conversation just so we find out if we agree or disagree in this particular context is the least interesting use of my time.
I talk more about the definition of empathy I propose here: http://vimeo.com/36629754Feb 25 2012: Still not feeling it (sorry could not resist the pun). The way I understand it, if you have empathy with another being, you are sharing feeling. Like I said, two souls.
If you are assigning feeling to an inanimate object, that is called projection.
I understand, however, what you are trying to describe because I also enjoy art. And in the media I work in, sometimes it tells me what it wants to become. I don't know what to call that but I get what you are describing. I do not think the word empathy applies. If you use the word empathy in this context, it weakens the definition.
Part of the reason there has not been a history of empathy is that the word itself is relatively new. Perhaps there is a word in a different language that describes that connection between human and inanimate. It would help describe so much, including a child's attachment to a comfort toy or item to how we treasure items as what Native Americans would call medicine. Interesting idea.
Feb 25 2012: :) ha ha!
This is fantastic. We are having an empathic conversation right now. We're trying to empathize with what the disconnect is that makes the two perspectives seem different.
I am not claiming anything about the object having feelings, I'm only talking about how you feel in relation to others, regardless of whether they are animate or inanimate.
Things get very fuzzy when we start talking about what a soul is. Could you extend your definition of empathy to other animals like cats, dogs, horses? An insect? How about living plants like trees? Are trees animate or inanimate? Is an imaginary character? What does it mean for something to have a soul? Why is it that some people feel a sense of deep resonance in front of a piece of abstract painting? At what point do you start to say that something is alive/dead or has a soul or doesn't have a soul? Can we really completely eliminate our tendency to project?
The English word for empathy may be new, but in East Asian countries like China, Japan, and Korea the word has been around since the dawn of time. The emphasis on the relationship between people, people and matter, people and everything is at the heart of what it means to be a human being. The very Chinese word for human being when translated literally is "The space between people" or "The relationship between people" It is never about a singular entity.
Though, I would like to steer us away from empathy and toward the conscious act of empathizing. These are two different things. Reflexive use of empathy requires little imagination. We yawn when someone else yawns. That's a reflexive use of empathy. What I'm interested in is a _conscious_ use of empathy. The _act_ of empathizing as I describe in the video about my interaction with my bipolar friend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E15sYx-cpso
If we are consciously trying to empathize with everything we come across, this can actually bring about not only a sustainable way of living, but also world peace.Feb 25 2012: Also, what you said about the material telling you what to do is something that can only happen when you have empathy.
The way we make sense of the world is through the memory of our past experiences mediated through our body. Some scientists are now starting to hypothesize that even mathematics may have its roots in the physical experience mediated through the body ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_Mathematics_Comes_From ).
So at the end of the day, the only way we understand something is through what we generically call our feelings, although I prefer the word embodied knowledge, though.Feb 26 2012: Absolutely! people can have empathy with animals and plants. Because they have a form of feeling. That is key that whatever you have empathy with also has feeling.
Nothing can match the joy that my dog has when I get home from work.
Some people will argue that about plants, but plants get stressed if I do not water them when it is time. If the area I live in has drought, people also feel the stress that the wildlife is feeling. Just ask anyone. They want to help relive the stress.
I know and understand the connection between humans and objects. I just do not think the word is empathy.
They are alive and mortal.
Feb 26 2012: Yes, that's great that you can have empathy for plants when other people think they cannot.
That's my point. People have different capacity to empathize. Some people can empathize with objects. :)
When I am programming the computer I feel one with the computer, I can see everything from their perspective. The thing is I couldn't always do this, I trained to do it because I kept practicing programming. And after a decade or so of practice it becomes quite natural to do it.
I may have mislead you, but I don't mean this to be an intellectual exercise in defining the word empathy, but rather it's all about how we feel in relationship to others.Feb 23 2012: I think what you're describing is the experience of the audience. They are the ones who empathize with the artist. I believe that the act of creation is, paradoxically, an act of selfish generosity; a ruthless baring of the individual soul in the service of a larger community. The creative process is an act of self-discovery and insofar as an audience is considered at all, it is a consideration of how best to help the audience understand the viewpoint of the artist in order to transform the audience rather than to prop up their existing perceptions. Creation is deeply personal and deeply introspective. It becomes art when the purely personal resonates on a universal level. Unless, of course, you're saying that it is the artist who is challenging the audience to empathize, and then I completely agree.
Feb 24 2012: Hi David!
Perhaps your definition of empathizing is a bit different from mine. I could be wrong, so please correct me if that is indeed the case.
In my definition, the act of empathizing is something that can be done with an other who have yet to empathize with, who we don't yet fully understand. That other can be a fellow human being, a piece of wood, an imaginary character in a play, or even your own body. Even ourselves our those we have to empathize with, because we don't fully understand who we are.
Did you watch the video? I go more in depth with what I mean. https://vimeo.com/36629796
Let me know if I am making my thoughts clearer. I have much to learn from everyone such that I can do that.


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This didn't make it into Photo Technique, and I have too much work to do to bother sending it out to more magazines. So...
On Street Photography
by Russ Lewis
What is street photography? Seems Wikipedia is about the only reference that's come up with what could be called a dictionary definition. But you don't need a dictionary to define it. Study the work of Henri Cartier-Bresson, Andre Kertesz, David Seymour (Chim), Robert Doisneau, Willy Ronis, Brassai, Walker Evans, Elliott Erwitt, Mark Riboud, Garry Winogrand, Helen Levitt and Robert Frank, who are only a few of the masters of street, and you'll have a much better appreciation for what street photography is than words ever can give you.
A picture of a person on a street is no more street photography than a picture of a street is street photography. A good street photograph is a story, though the story may be confusing or even one you'll never be able to decipher. There must be interesting human behavior in the picture -- something beyond a simple shot of a person or people, no matter how weird the people are, no matter how much they fit stereotypes, no matter how briskly they walk, no matter how they slouch against the stoop. Often there's an element of mystery in the story, and unless the picture makes you think, it's not much of a street photograph.
Some have the idea that only the "urban scene" lends itself to street photography, but if you look at the work of the masters you'll discover that the world is full of rural streets that lend themselves to street photography, and you'll also discover that most great street photography doesn't take place on streets.
Cartier-Bresson's "Behind the Gare St. Lazare" is a perfect example of some of the things a photograph needs in order to be a real street photograph. The action itself is straightforward: the man has jumped off the ladder and is about to land in the water. His splayed legs are echoed by the splayed legs of a dancer in a poster on the fence behind him. The picture is an example of great composition, the kind of intuitive geometry for which HCB was famous. But why has the man walked toward the flood on the little ladder? Since it's obvious he's not dressed for wading why is he jumping into the water? There's another man in the picture, slouching behind a fence. What's he doing there? Why is the partially destroyed poster on that desolate fence? Then there's a chimney and some foggy roofs in the background that give an ominous flavor to the whole thing. It's an arresting and mysterious image -- exactly what a street photograph should be.
People who haven't studied street photography tend to confuse it with photojournalism. It's true that some of the photographs included in a journalism shoot might qualify as street photography, but photojournalism requires a kind of storytelling a single picture can't satisfy. Besides that, mystery isn't normally something an editor is looking for. In most cases the point of the story is to remove the mystery. A good picture story needs a central shot that can grab the viewer, and that's often the one that could qualify as a street photograph, but the story also needs peripheral shots that work to focus the central shot. You can see an example of this in Cartier-Bresson's book, The People of Moscow. If you're familiar with Henri's street photography you'll recognize that though the pictures in the book share his mastery of composition, many of them don't contain the depth that would make them good street photographs.
Few of us ever will shoot the equivalent of "Behind the Gare St. Lazare." But how do you go about getting a photograph that meets the basic requirements of a good street photograph, even if it's something much less than the "Gare?"
One thing most of us shouldn't do is walk down the street like Bruce Gilden, wearing a mesh photographer's vest, carrying a camera in one hand and a flashgun in the other, shoving the camera and flashgun into people's faces and blinding them. I'm always amazed when I see a decent street picture by Gilden, and I'm always amazed when I realize he's still alive. Gilden's flashgun blows out the faces of most of his subjects as you can see in his short YouTube clip at
, and he's not photographing people as they are. He's photographing people as they are after he's hassled them.
Though I've been doing street photography since 1953 I have yet to come up with any universal rules for finding and capturing good street photographs. But here are a few ideas:
How do you find good street photographs? You can't plan street photography the way you can plan studio photography or landscape photography or even wildlife photography. There's that old saw: "f/8 and be there," and the "be there" part is right. You can't do street photography sitting in front of your TV or relaxing with a drink. And there's another old saw you should consider: "The best camera in the world is the one you have with you." The corollary, of course, is that if you're there but without a camera you're out of luck. Yes, you need to take a camera with you when you go out, but having a camera with you isn't going to lead you to a good photograph. I keep coming back to Cartier-Bresson because not only did his pictures define street photography, he was able to write about it coherently. He said: "Photographing is nothing. Looking is everything." And that's the key. You're unlikely to find a good street photograph unless your camera is in your hand and you're actively looking.
Another thing HCB said was: "approach tenderly, gently on tiptoe - even if the subject is a still life. A velvet hand, a hawk's eye - these we should all have." ...which sort of lets Bruce Gilden out of the picture. Or does it? If you look at Bruce's pictures on the Magnum photographers web page you'll see that in spite of his nasty approach he's made some pretty good street photographs, as well as some pretty bad ones. So, how you approach your subjects is a subjective thing: something you have to work out for yourself. I'm of the Cartier-Bresson school of thought, but Gilden and others like William Klein have proved that that's not the only possible school.
How do you capture a good street photograph? If you look carefully at the street photographs of masters like Cartier-Bresson, Elliott Erwitt, or Robert Frank you soon realize that the best of them are snapshots: gut reactions to what they saw before them, not planned intersections with the scene. There's no way HCB's conscious mind could have registered all the elements of the scene in "Behind the Gare St. Lazare" before he tripped the shutter. That truth is reinforced by the fact that "Gare" is one of only two photographs I know of that Cartier-Bresson cropped. There was a fence off to the left, and he didn't have time to move to the right before it was time to shoot. You can see the original, un-cropped version in his book,
Henri Cartier Bresson: Scrapbook.
So there are two things you need to learn to do: First, you need to practice composition to the point where it becomes intuitive. You don't have time to line up all those elements of geometry with, say, the "rule of thirds." You have to see it whole in your viewfinder without stopping to analyze.
But in many cases to wait for your conscious mind to register both the facts and the geometry is to miss the picture. So, the second thing you need to do is learn not to rely on your conscious mind, but to rely on your unconscious: to react instinctively. There simply isn't time to think about it. In the end, to do good street photography you need to practice and practice and practice. You need to become so familiar with your camera that you don't have to think about it, any more than you have to think about shifting gears when you're driving a stick-shift car, and you have to be able to frame and shoot a properly composed picture without thinking about it -- with your unconscious making the decision.
Spending days on the street looking, and rarely seeing a situation worth shooting can become pretty discouraging, so there's a temptation to just shoot some people on the street and call it a street photograph. There's nothing wrong with shooting something you know isn't going to be good, in fact that's part of the training process. You need to do that again and again to learn to get the geometry right. But when it comes to posting or displaying your photographs you should be extremely critical, and to be able to be critical in an informed way you need to become familiar with the genre. That calls not only for reading, but for studying the work of the masters, including the ones I listed near the beginning of this tirade.
Again and again I see howlers people post on the web as street photography, and I try not to laugh too hard because I've shot my share of flubs like these too. I'm sure I'm far from the only one who reacts that way. Fact is that even when you get good at street photography you'll shoot bags and bags of bloopers, a smaller number of not too bad shots, and the rare picture you should be willing to show.
Beyond the rare picture that's showable there's that even rarer picture upon which you'd be willing to hang your reputation. If you can average one of those a year you're getting pretty good.
At this point I'm sure you're wondering, "Who the h--- is Russ Lewis, and where does he get off lecturing about street photography?" It's a fair question. I'm not a professional. The word "professional" means you make a sizeable chunk of your living shooting pictures, but it doesn't say anything about the quality of your work. I did some professional work in the sixties, hated it, and quit doing it, so I'm an amateur and I plan to remain an amateur in the true sense of that word. In other words, I do photography because I love it, and street photography has been one of my primary thrusts since I started. I've had some hits, like a Spotlight award in B&W magazine this year, and a fair number of sales out of several local galleries before the economy drove them under, but I'm certainly a comfortably long way away from being a famous photographer.
So to see whether or not it's worth paying attention to my words you'll have to go to my web, look at my pictures, and make your own decision. You may even decide I don't know what I'm talking about. That's okay, you have to be the judge, just as you have to be the judge when you're out there, on the street.
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October 07, 2011, 02:22:36 PM »
Russ, you've covered this perfectly, especially by stressing the importance of being ready to shoot when a neat situation might happen.
I think this example shows how fleeting a street-shooting moment can be. That eyeballing of the young lady lasted maybe one second. Had his eyes been on his job this would be just another dull snapshot that would have earned the delete command. If I were really on my game I would have realized that I was mirrored in the window. Dumb mistake on my part but it doesn't negate the rather obvious enjoyment of the young lady by her co-worker.
You are right about how rare it is to get a decent street shot. This example is one of maybe 2,000 exposures on the near north side of Chicago over a three year period. I would be hard pressed to choose more than 2 or 3 that would qualify as "decent" street photography. But it was great fun to try and I'll be doing it again next summer.
The one thing I'd like to add on the topic is the importance of studying your shots carefully before you delete them. In dynamically changing street scenes you can't consciously analyze every image capture at the instant of exposure. You may miss things happening in the frame that you never saw at the time.
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October 07, 2011, 03:41:04 PM »
Good shooting Lou. I agree about being careful what you delete. That's why, when I come back from a shoot, the first thing I do is offload the camera(s) and put everything onto a DVD. Then I start culling, but I stretch out the cull over a couple days before I settle on the finals, convert them all to dng format, number them, and make contact sheets for reference. If something starts scratching at my mind, saying "Why did you delete that shot that felt so good when you tripped the shutter?" I always can go back to the DVD and look again. Usually I was right the first time, but not always.
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October 08, 2011, 08:09:11 PM »
First I must say I quite liked your write up, however for me, the journalistic picture in street photography is what it is all about. I enjoy interesting images, but ultimately it is the image that moves me towards an awareness of the human predicament, or tells a story within a story that I find most gratifying. I'm not into a guy stepping into the water with a fence behind him.
Like you I have taken many street photos, with only one or two I would show anywhere. Interesting that something seemingly so easy is so hard. Whether it is a street photo, theatre, art, whatever, I like to be direct beyound who I am at the time.
This is a classic picture that emerged from the Vancouver riots after the last Stanley Cup game, I'm sure you've seen it - it went around the world and back; I didn't take it. This picture to me is the "ultimate" street photo, the person who took the photo wasn't a news person, just photo geak with a camera:
[Picture at bottom of article]
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October 17, 2011, 10:53:22 PM »
Sounds like too much work RSL.
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November 28, 2011, 06:24:06 PM »
I saw this video and immediately thought of this thread, the man jumping over the puddle, etc; I think you'll be surprised at how the photograph came to be, not even sure one could call it "street photography":
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November 28, 2011, 07:06:52 PM »
Actually I wasn't too surprised, though that's the first time I'd heard that HCB couldn't see through his viewfinder for that shot. That wasn't the only time. He couldn't see through his viewfinder when he shot the picture of Cardinal Pacelli, which is almost as famous as the Gare. He had to lift the camera above the crowd in front of him. But I loved that film clip. He said some things with which I agree completely:
In response to the statement that "Behind the Gare St. Lazare" was luck, he said: " It's always luck." If you've done much street shooting you know how true that is. Of course, you have to be prepared for the luck when it happens, but that doesn't make it any less luck.
He also said: "Be receptive, and it happens." About composition he said: "One shouldn't think about it." "You must feel it, intuitively." And about the ability to make photographs: "You have it or you don't." I agree wholeheartedly with all those observations, and I know Rob agrees with the last one.
Thanks for the link to that clip. I've seen a couple HCB clips, but I'd missed that one.
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He also said: "Be receptive, and it happens." About composition he said: "One shouldn't think about it." "You must feel it, intuitively." And about the ability to make photographs: "You have it or you don't." I agree wholeheartedly with all those observations, and I know Rob agrees with the last one.
Hi Russ -
Rob agrees with all of them! I also agree with his notion of geometry being the basis of 'composition'; no, not the basis, the whole thing, and you just have to be able to recognize it when its there. Regarding his statement about conversation when shooting - yes, again he nails it perfectly. Some use music as the mood setter, others such as myself indulge in mild flirtation and praise when something interesting seems likely to happen, none of which is taken seriuosly by either party. I hope. That's probably why I found it impossible to enjoy photographing men, or children other than my own. I couldn't find the key.
It's a shame there's no sound to the clip - or is that just my fault here?
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If you mean the HC-B clip, I had sound Rob. Only persevered with a minute of it.
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If you mean the HC-B clip, I had sound Rob. Only persevered with a minute of it.
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If you mean the HC-B clip, I had sound Rob.
Only persevered with a minute of it
Vive la difference!
Not unusual, but still quite amazing how we can see the same thing so differently. Btw, I did not know they do not like French "down under" too
What a wonderful, wonderful clip!!! I sat for those few minutes mesmerized by his words (the translation actually... I love French language... the melody of it though, as I do not speak it).
the brevity of his comments... short bursts of concentrated wisdom... something that comes with age and experience, when one knows almost too much on the subject (and knows the interlocutor knows perhaps just as much) and knows it is neither time nor place for a dissertation, but chooses to express it instead in broad, blanket statements, that act more like the tip of the iceberg or like trail markers... not unlike telling old jokes among friends, when just the beginning or perhaps even a single word from it is enough for everyone to burst laughing.
You see the power of photography to evoke moments, to recreate feelings, to bring back memories of the days gone by. So powerful, it makes him choke for a moment. And that
the power of photography,
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Quite interesting opinions from this guy, of whom some might have heard... :-)
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Especially like what he says about 'narrative'.
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Quote from: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 30, 2011, 12:20:24 PM
You see the power of photography to evoke moments, to recreate feelings, to bring back memories of the days gone by. So powerful, it makes him choke for a moment. And that
the power of photography,
mes amis
He choked when he looked at that picture of Alberto Giacometti crossing the street in the rain. The reason he did was that Alberto was a very close friend. Henri wrote an extended salute to Alberto in
The Mind's Eye.
You're right, Slobodan. HCB was one of the few great photographers who could write and speak about photography, concisely and straight to the point. I'm not much for heroes, but in my nearly 82 years I've had two: Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Henri Cartier-Bresson. In some ways they were alike: both were fearless, both had extremely effective BS filters, and neither had time to screw around; they just got on with the job at hand.
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I'm not much for heroes, but in my nearly 82 years I've had two: Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill and Henri Cartier-Bresson. In some ways they were alike: both were fearless, both had extremely effective BS filters, and neither had time to screw around; they just got on with the job at hand.
In some ways they were very different. I don't think Cartier-Bresson ever called Hindus like me a "foul race."
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Sorry about that, Rajan. All I can say is that times then were different from now -- very, very different.
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Sorry about that, Rajan. All I can say is that times then were different from now -- very, very different.
Just to be clear - I wasn't imputing anything to you. Just making the point that in some instances, "heroes" to a certain set of people aren't so to some other set. Aside: when I first went to Lisboa my dear aunt (who is Portuguese) took me to the monument honouring the great Portuguese navigators of the past - Vasco da Gama et al. Heroes to the Portuguese, but from my perch (in Goa), brutal monsters who did terrible things.
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You're right, Rajan. Unfortunately that's the way the world works. I'll be 82 in March and I've seen the world working that way for a lot of years. No, not everyone was happy with Winston. Hitler comes to mind along with Mussolini and a few others right off the top of my head. After having watched it for a while I'm convinced that life isn't supposed to be easy. I think it's a test. It would be nice if all our prejudices would disappear so we could love one another, but I don't expect that to happen before I have to turn in my test and see how it's graded.
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Problem is, equality (of anything you can think of) is pretty much a dream. You don't have to cross race lines to find that: we sometimes group-dislike many of our very own nationals of similar origin for no other reason than they are of a different 'class', of different education or worse yet, belong to different political parties or religions! One can even dislike one's own relations, though I am obliged to put in a personal disclaimer here for obvious reasons.
I have a feeling that it was and ever will be so, not least because there are just too many of us on Earth. Quite apart from that, people are simply not created equal. Some of us are bright, some as dumb as the proverbial ox (trust no sacred cows come into it here!); whereas some will cut your throat for a few bucks yet others m¡ght give you their last biscuit.
Equality is a myth: look at cameras! ;-)
Speaking of which, Rankin did a tv thing last night (BBC) on the LIFE photographers; he's back on again tonight on BBC HD at 9pm UK time, 10pm Europe. I think I'll watch it again. I don't usually enjoy Rankin, but this show actually had me laugh aloud (in a nice way).
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Just to be clear - I wasn't imputing anything to you. Just making the point that in some instances, "heroes" to a certain set of people aren't so to some other set. Aside: when I first went to Lisboa my dear aunt (who is Portuguese) took me to the monument honouring the great Portuguese navigators of the past - Vasco da Gama et al. Heroes to the Portuguese, but from my perch (in Goa), brutal monsters who did terrible things.
Rajan, I should have added that my prejudices don't run to Hindus. At University of Michigan I roomed with a Hindu -- from Karachi believe it or not. He became a very good pharmacist. I've lost track of him, but I sure hope he's not in Karachi now.
My prejudices (if I have any) run to fools. I don't remember who Churchill was talking about when he said, "Not only does he not suffer fools gladly, he does not suffer them at all," but he could have been talking about me. We've had at least two of those on LuLa, but, happily, they're gone now.
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... My prejudices (if I have any) run to fools...
Exactly! As they say, "when you argue with a fool, there are two".
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Boulder Mountain Lodge is located in the middle of Utah's scenic red rock canyon country. It is an unexpected oasis of tranquility and comfort, overlooking an eleven acre bird sanctuary. This nationally recognized luxury lodge provides everything for a fabulous getaway - spacious rooms, intimate ambiance, unparalleled views, fine dining, and an impressive array of services and amenities. It is the ideal home base for exploring Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument, Burr Trail, Capitol Reef National Park, Dixie National Forest, Anasazi State Park, and Bryce Canyon National Park. There is not a better setting for your family vacation, meeting, reunion, or romantic getaway. Pets are welcome in most rooms. The Lodge is the home of the award winning Hell's Backbone Grill, named by the Wall Street Journal as one of six top "Destination Restaurants" in the nation.
Amenities & Services
On site restaurant - Hell's Backbone Grill Gift Shop / Gallery Outdoor Hot Tub Common Room with Fireplace Grand Balcony Eleven Acre Bird Sanctuary "Chat with an Expert" sessions (April-October) BBQ Area Fire Pit Yard Games Board Games Yoga DVD and Mats Fresh Well Water Wireless Internet Access Guest Computer DVD Library Book Exchange Soda Machine / Ice Machine Laundry Service In Room Massage or Sound Therapy
Property Amenities
- Business center
- Conference room(s)
- Common area hot tub (outdoor)
- Pets allowed (fees may apply)
- Wheelchair accessible property
- Fax services available
- Barbecue grills available
- On-site restaurant
- Complimentary parking
- 100% non-smoking
- Cribs available (fees may apply)
- DVD rentals
- Dry cleaning / laundry services
- Gift shop
- On-site front desk (limited hours)
- Wake-up service
- Volleyball court(s)
- Children allowed
- Film library
In-Room Amenities
- Air conditioning
- Complimentary coffee
- DVD player
- Television
- Hair dryer
- High-end toiletries
- Shower/tub combination
- Rollaway beds available
- AM/FM alarm clock radio
- Individual climate control
- Smoke alarms in rooms
- Coffeemaker
- Full kitchens available
- Kitchenettes available
- Mini-fridge
- Cable or satellite TV
- Complimentary local phone calls
- Data ports
- Flat-screen Television
- Voicemail
- Wireless Internet (complimentary)
- Complimentary daily housekeeping
- Complimentary toiletries
- Jetted bathtub (availability varies by room)
Dining and Attractions
Hell's Backbone Grill - located on our grounds
1/2 mile from Anasazi State Park and Museum
Close to Capitol Reef and Bryce Canyon National Parks
Location Description
At the junction of Scenic Byway 12(Utah's First All-American Road) and the Burr Trail.
Boulder Mountain Lodge
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Due to our intimate size and remote location, we strictly adhere to our cancellation policy. All cancelled reservations will be charged a $25 booking fee. For reservations cancelled within 30 days of your arrival date, you will also be charged 25% of the rate of one night for each room reserved, unless the reservation is cancelled within the last 5 days before your arrival. For reservations cancelled after 3:00 pm (Mtn Time) within 5 days of your arrival, you will be charged for a one night stay for each room reserved. After you check in, if you choose to leave before your reserved departure date, you will be charged for the nights not used for each room reserved. Properly cancelled reservations will be issued a cancellation number. Please retain this number for your records.
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Tannehill looked good for one drive. Hard to watch us get outplayed by a good Panthers team (got beat first preseason game?) and the team that beat us soundly (first team) , the bucs are getting crushed tonight.
I hope we go undefeated and win it all...but its a tough game to watch, even if it is "Preseason Game"


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Officials with a Fort Wayne clinic that got medicine linked to a multi-state meningitis outbreak do not believe any of their patients could have contracted the deadly illness.
State health officials Thursday named Fort Wayne Physical Medicine, 5750 Coventry Lane, as one of six Indiana facilities that received medication believed to have infected at least 35 people across six states –killing five – with a rare form of fungal meningitis.
But a spokeswoman for Fort Wayne Physical Medicine said today the facility does not use the medicine, methylprednisolone acetate, for epidural injections in the lower back, which is how health officials have said victims likely were infected.
"We do not use methylprednisolone for epidurals," said Donna Del Priore, a marketing manager for the clinic. "We've been in contact with the Indiana Board of Health and have been told none of our patients are at risk."
Fort Wayne Physical Medicine uses the pain medication for injections in joints, not the back, Del Priore said.
Del Priore said the clinic started participating in a voluntary recall of the medicine after being informed of the tainted medicine Sept. 26 by its manufacturer, New England Compounding Center, based in Framingham, Mass.
State health officials have confirmed only one case in Indiana.
Neither Del Priore nor Ken Severson, a spokesman for the Indiana Department of Health, knew exactly how many people may have gotten injections of the tainted medication in Fort Wayne. However, Del Priore said the clinic was working today to contact all the patients who got the injections.


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I would like to improve my ability to read facial expressions. Obviously, I am going to try to pay more attention to these during conversations, but the difficultly with this method is that you are often not going to know whether you are correct or not. Any suggestions?
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Related story: Artists, creators throw support behind comic event Heroes head back to the multiplex in force
DC Cathro, who works at Beyond Comics in Frederick, reaches over the counter and hands a stack of comics to a customer who appears to be there with his son. The man reaches back and hands a new issue of Iron Man to a young boy appearing to be 5 years old.
"That used to be me many, many years ago," Cathro said.
More children and thousands of grown ups will be waiting in line this Saturday at comic book stores around the country as shops prepare for Free Comic Book Day.
Free Comic Book Day, which started in 2002 and was set to coincide with big movie releases of comic book characters, has become a wide-reaching phenomenon that involves people dressing up like their favorite superhero — or villain — and fans and families alike going into stores to pick out free comic books.
"[Free Comic Book Day] is our busiest day of the year," said Jon Cohen, owner of Beyond Comics in Frederick and Gaithersburg. "It destroys the whole Christmas holiday. We have more people come in for the event than any day of the year — by a landslide. We had almost 1,200 people last year in each store. Being small stores, we usually had 40 to 50 people in the store constantly. For a draw, a national level draw, there's nothing that touches it. So as a retailer, it's fantastic."
It wasn't that way in the beginning, Cohen said. People who weren't into comic books really had no idea what to make of the event. Comic book fans seemed to be cool on the idea.
"Obviously it's grown, and the recognition's grown and unfortunately, Americans love their free," Cohen said. "Last year, we actually ran out of free comics. By 4 o'clock, we were wiped. We have access — because of where we've done for years and from what we had from inventory — we have access to backup stuff. We ran out of the stuff that we had to buy for this Free Comic Book Day and had stuff that we'd bought for previous ones and some excess inventory that we just filled the free stuff with for the rest of the day."
Few people realize that while the select comics are free for people to come in and pick up, they are not free to shop owners. Owners such as Cohen end up having to pay anywhere from 15 cents to a dollar per book — and if he ends up buying a couple hundred books, it becomes a fairly expensive "free" event.
"We order a broad variety of the stuff," Cohen said. "The biggest problem is it's not free to us. We put out well over $1,000 in comics per store."
The idea is simple — as a shop owner, you want to get the books into the hands of people who will be repeat customers.
"If your nephew comes in, he's not going to know half these indie characters," Cohen said. "So it's harder for me to promote that. We will have SpongeBob. We'll have Simpsons, … We tend to carry all that kind of stuff, and it makes it nice for kids. Still, Superman and the Marvel launches for their books are the top recognition ones. … Some of the stuff, we think is great. It's so hard to judge the numbers."
For Free Comic Book Day, companies will publish books specifically for the event. The list of books, which covers everything from Superman to Star Wars. Others on the list aren't quite as well known, and those are the comics that have the hardest time finding traction, he said.
"If you're a small indie creator, you want a Free Comic Book Day book," Cohen said. "The theory is they're available, in essence, at cost. The problem is, small press, indies, tend to have higher costs. Therefore, that free indie might cost me 50 cents, 75 cents, a dollar. I can't afford to say, 'Hey, we'll get a hundred of those to give out,' while it's costing me less for a Marvel book. So this is the whole economic dynamic.
"I think there's a record number of Free Comic Book Day books. But if we had 70-something to choose from? I've got to choose — I'm not going to order a hundred of each across the board. I just can't afford that. So, we'll order five and 10 of some of them, and two and three hundred of others, and we try to balance it about which ones we think we'll be the most popular because … we're not big enough to afford to give everybody everything they want to take."
Stores across the country jockey for artists and celebrities to come in and sign autographs and take pictures during Free Comic Book Day. By the same token, some fans will come in dressed as their favorite characters — some even dressed up as Tony Stark, who is played by Robert Downey Jr., in the "Iron Man" films. Coincidentally, "Iron Man 3" will open the day before Free Comic Book Day.
Some artists and celebrities participate because they like going out and meeting the fans. Others like it because it gives them the opportunity to advertise their books. Either way, Cohen is glad they do it.
"This year, we've got Gene Ha [an award-winning artist best known for his work with the Batman graphic novel 'Fortunate Son'] in Frederick, and he's doing it because he likes doing these kinds of events," Cohen said. "He gets to meet people — he doesn't come out to the East Coast a lot. He's using it in conjunction with some vacation. He's a high-end artist who's good enough to pick and choose what he's doing. So, someone like that, he's doing it just to get the opportunity to get out and meet the fans. That's something he can do."
At the Beyond Comics store in Gaithersburg, three local artists, John Shine, Mike Imboden and Rafer Roberts will be signing autographs and taking pictures. Shine and Imboden wrote and illustrated 'FUBAR,' which is one of the free books being given out.
"We've got both ends of the spectrum — we've got guys who are trying to promote their work and then others who don't need to promote their work but they like to get out and meet people," Cohen said. "It's just a matter of trying to coordinate the creators that want to come around their schedule. There's a competition for different creators and things like that to come to your stores because everybody wants to get someone … we've been trying to get Alex Ross and people like that, but they don't do Free Comic Book Day."
One might think comic books are for children. In fact, only a handful of comics today are available for all ages. The average customer is between 17 and 25 years old, if not skewing a little higher, Cohen said. Basically, publishers make more money on books for teenagers and young adults than they do printing a book for children. However, that doesn't mean there aren't books available for children — even on Free Comic Book Day.
"I have a lot of nieces and nephews and friends with kids, and I always end up getting them books," Cathro said. "There should be more for the kids, to be honest. It's turned into such a huge, mature thing. Most of the comics we get in there are rated Teen and above. We have three of these double-sided wooden racks, so six sides are comic books plus the wall over there — of all those seven areas of new comics, one of them is devoted to all ages readers. At least they're still publishing for all ages. That's a good thing. But they just don't get the readership that everything else does. It's definitely become more of an adult phenomenon."
Cohen takes pride in doing everything he can to attract younger readers. Stores that embrace Free Comic Book Day, he said, the goal is bring in young readers.
"We want the kids coming in," Cohen said. "We actually fight with the publishers to do more young reader, quality young reader, books. Unfortunately, it's a Catch-22. They don't make as much money. A lot of times, they don't make any money on a young readers book. But there's a lot of stuff, if you're able to pick and choose, and you're not looking for the monthly Marvel comic or DC comic, you can find a wider selection of young readers.
"For Free Comic Book Day, we've got some members of the Star Wars Rebel Legion ... coming in. I've got a Spider-Man for sure coming here. Then he's going to Frederick. We're working on several of the Avengers cosplay guys. We've got a Mandarin and a Nick Fury for sure. That's not aimed for my 17- to 25-year-olds. That's aimed for my kids — and actually women and girls … teenage girls love that kind of stuff. We try to be an all-ages, non-gender type draw. And that's a lot of work in an industry that's predominantly male and oriented to a male readership."
Despite the amount of work it takes most store owners when it comes to advertising, setting up guests, buying the free comics, etc., Cohen believes events such as Free Comic Book Day are essential.
"I would rather have every day be Free Comic Book Day," Cohen said. "I will honestly tell you I was one of the first retailers in the region to ever do Free Comic Book Day. We never felt that it was, initially, worth it. It really wasn't. ... We stuck with it. Right now, we're one of the largest regional Free Comic Book Day events. ... For me, it's a must. If you want to present yourself as a great comic book shop, you have to do Free Comic Book Day and do it right.
"There are so many of the other stores around that just buy a couple of books, put a little sign in the window and pile the books up. We think it's more fun to have way more things going on. It's a celebration of what comics are, and I think over the last couple of years we've had a resurgence of people picking comics up again. So yes, we love it, and we'll continue to do it."


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"Every walking horse that enters into a show is sored. They've got to be sored to walk. There ain't no good way to put it, but that's how it is."
These were the words of Barney Davis at his sentencing hearing in a Chattanooga, Tennessee, federal court on February 27 after being found guilty of soring horses. Last night our friends at the Humane Society of the United States released horrific undercover footage showing horses being whipped, kicked, shocked in the face, burned with caustic chemicals, and violently cracked across the head and legs with heavy wooden sticks. These are just a few of the barbaric training methods used in the walking horse industry.
What Is Soring?
Soring is a training technique that is even worse than it sounds. Painful chemicals and other devices are used to cause such agony to a horse's front limbs that any contact with the ground makes the horse quickly jerk up his or her leg. Soring is done to elicit "the big lick," a high-stepping gait prized and rewarded at horse shows. And it gets worse. To hide their cruelty, trainers also do what they euphemistically call "stewarding"—beating and inflicting even greater pain to the horses so they don't react poorly during inspection. This brutality, as captured in HSUS' footage, masks the fact that trainers are soring the animals. It sounds impossible that this practice continues, even when showing sore horses is banned by the Horse Protection Act (HPA). This practice is violent and abusive—and we will not tolerate it.
What Is the USDA Doing about It?
Last year, U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) inspectors had the resources to attend just 62 of approximately 700 walking horse shows nationwide. In addition, although the USDA promised in March to release rules that would take an important step toward enforcing the ban of these unethical and cruel practices, they have failed to do so.
While the USDA drags its feet, the 2012 walking horse season is well under way. It's time to finally take the power out of the hands of criminals! Contact your legislators today and urge them to speak out against soring and demand improvements to the 40-year-old Horse Protection Act.
Join the ASPCA Advocacy Brigade to use your voice to help these under-protected animals.


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I hope he's right...
I hope he's right...
Dolphins, Canes, & Heat For Life!!!
Here's my reason why Miami has the edge tonight:
For whatever reason, the Bills are an absolutely horrendous 2-13 in AFC East games under Chan Gailey.
Can someone please explain to me how that explains how the Dolphins will win?3. OK, C.J. Spiller does scare you. Forget the loss of Fred Jackson for Buffalo. That just means more Spiller, who is having a monster year and presents the sexact kind of quick-back the Dolphins has troubles with at times. Chris Johnson proved that last week in running for 126 yards the first time a back gained over 100 yards on the Dolphins in 22 games. The Dolphins run defense has dropped from leading the league to eight. Time for Paul Soliai and Randy Starks to bring their best game.
Now I have to change my screen name BALLINNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!38-17
Using the Colt factor and we should win in a blowout.
Titans suffer crushing last second loss to Colts.
Titans blown out at home the following week.
Titans go on the road after being called out by owner and blowout Dolphins
Dolphins suffer crushing last second loss to Colts
Dolphins blown out at home the following week.
Dolphins go on the road after being called out by media and blowout Bills.
Well atleast that is how I hope it goes.
Sounds good to me
We will not beat anybody unless we start to run the ball!!! Tannehill is a rookie and I wish we would treat him that way sometimes. We dont have an All-Pro QB so why throw the ball every play??? Especially with our WR core. We can't pass block either so why not run more??? Play-action passing and roll-outs should be a big part of our game plan, but it doesn't work without a running game. We need to be aggressive on Defense also. We win games when we win the turnover battle. We have more talent than the Bills but I'm not sure we can sustain drives and score TDs. I know we're rebuilding but its frustrating watching this offense not getting it done. The Defense has its share of issues but a true DE and a solid CB will make the better
Miami will win because we are 1 and 1 in the division this season and the 7th seed in the AFC and we need this game if we want to make the play offs
That was Hyde in a rush - where's he going anyway?
Pride goes before destruction and haughtiness before a fall. Proverbs 16:18


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Am looking for (out of curiosity, to begin with) collections of premade, at least medium quality wilderness maps available legally for free (published under gpl, gnu, creative commons, or a similar license), of all/any kinds of terrains/climates. Or, coming to think of it, for a good random generator for the same. Have you found any such that you'd recommend?
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Here are some of the sites I use the provide me maps and such. Some are free, some are donation. They are provided by the authors and are "no cost", but they do it for the love of the game. Please help them out if they have a donate button, they work very hard on these.
There is more here than what you are asking for, overland, dungeon, interior. So enjoy.
A nice random generator is Hexographer.


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A neck fracture is a break in one or more of the seven cervical bones. The vertebrae are the bones that make up the spine. The cervical vertebrae in the neck are labeled C1-C7. They protect the spinal cord, support the neck, and allow for movement.
It is important to recognize the possibility of a neck fracture.
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A neck fracture is caused by severe trauma to the neck, which is strong enough to break the vertebrae. Trauma may be caused by:
Factors that may increase your risk of neck fracture include:
A neck fracture is very serious and can lead to paralysis or possibly death. A person with a neck injury should not be moved without competent medical care, which is needed immediately.
Neck fracture may cause:
You will most likely be taken to a hospital. The doctor will ask about your symptoms, physical activity, and how the injury occurred. The doctor will examine the injured area and perform a complete neurological exam.
Imaging tests evaluate the spine and surrounding structures. These may include:
Neck fractures are serious injuries that can lead to paralysis or death. Call for medical help right away.
When there is a possibility of a neck fracture, immediate and complete immobilization of the head and neck area is necessary. Avoid excessive movement to prevent or minimize spinal cord injury. For athletes, it is recommended to keep the helmet and shoulder pads on while immobilizing the spine.
Once immobilized, you will be assessed for any other problems, such as secondary injuries, shock, or airway obstruction. Stabilizing your injury may include:
Once you are stabilized and assessed, your course of treatment will depend on:
Treatment options for neck fracture include:
Overall recovery time depends on whether or not you have any permanent injuries. Physical therapy and rehabilitation can last for months or years.
People with neck fractures usually need to stay in the hospital. Serious injuries may need to be watched in an intensive care unit. Some people with neck fractures need to have help breathing. A tube is inserted and mechanical ventilation is used to protect and assist breathing.
You may need the following:
Healing time varies by age and your overall health. Children and people in better overall health heal faster. In general, it may take several weeks to several months for a neck fracture to heal.
As you recover, you may be referred to physical therapy to keep your muscles strong. Do not return to activities or sports until your doctor gives you permission to do so.
It is possible that you may have permanent damage or paralysis even if your neck heals. If this is the case, you will need long-term rehabilitation.
A neck fracture can sometimes result in spinal cord and nerve injury and paralysis. This may require major life changes, involving work, family, and social life. Extensive rehabilitation may be required, including occupational therapy, psychotherapy, or support groups.
To help reduce your chance of getting a neck fracture:
To help reduce falling hazards at work and home:
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