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GREEN TECHNOLOGY + HYDROPONIC FARMING: We can do it right now! Let's go! Pro Hydro!
Save on land space for future generations & feed them by investing in hydroponic farming to grow vegetables & fruit in more quantity & quality. All around healthy produce for the future. This would more than double the rate of food production reducing world hunger by more than 25%. I imagine something like a tower to house the hydroponic farm equipped with solar panels, wind mills and a rain water reservoir on the roof for independent power to help insure the produce are forever growing. Every floor would be treated as a hydroponic crop. That is a lot of growing.
I want these buildings to be just like the ones that are all windows on all sides. Windows that allow sunlight in the tower on every crop and like the ones described by Justin Hall-Tipping. The ceilings on every floor would be tiled with large mirrors with grow lights embedded in the ceiling installed right above and or near every row or unit of growing produce. The floor would require reflective metal tiles. This combination would maximize the gain of real and artificial sunlight on the crops.
Farmers are sure to adopt this new technique as the industry grows and would either sell their lands to move near the cities or use their property for these towers or similar farming structures. We will have a influx of farmland buying & selling. Selling older nonessential land for the population to settle into in the near future. Creating new suburban neighborhoods in rural areas reducing farmland expansion and harsh winters that halt crop harvesting by creating a way to grow all the time with out using too much land. Expanding space for the population. Giving city and rural areas a chance to grow economically in a time the world needs it most.
In time there will be many entrepreneurs & farmers taking advantage of this goldmine around the world with the potential of being the first global gold rush since fossil fuel's! City and rural areas will expand and the world economy will get a appreciatingly welcome boost.
Paul Lillebo
Nov 24 2011: Agricultural towers using hydroponics or aeroponics is a great idea, but not a new one. Lots of people are working on this concept. Google "agricultural towers" and select "images" to see dozens of architects' ideas of how this concept can work in or near our cities.
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For such tower agriculture to reach its full potential, crops would need to be bred for the purpose. Depending on the crop, stalks, leaves, flowers, and/or roots that have developed for a plant to grow in an open field would be adjusted to the hydro/aero-ponic environment. Simply setting our ordinary crops in this environment will not give the optimum results. In the end we may wind up with some bioengineered mineral-and-vitamin-stuffed protein mass on the dinner table.
The great advantages of such farming towers include stability of environment, availability and economy of water, flexibility to adapt to various crops, and closeness to market.
Hazards include mass infection, sabotage, and other massive failures of the artificial system. Engineered systems are always subject to some probability - hopefully low - of failure, and there would have to be considerable redundancies and safeguards.
By the way, the notion that good agricultural land is plentiful is a fiction. In the U.S. for example, the overdrawn Ogalalla aquifer that waters much of our farmland is in great danger, and good topsoil is being reduced every year. In California's Central Valley, our most productive agricultural region, the soil is gradually becoming more saline, and much has been taken out of production or changed to other, more salt-tolerant, crops. Water is also at a critical state in California. The problem of farmland is real.
Nov 24 2011: Wow, such excellent input Paul.
I did not know there were already others who thought about this. But of course, there are billions of people. How silly of me to think this idea was unique to just me. I am glad that I am not alone on this notion that we can grow more with such towers.
I remember when I was a kid hearing about something on the news regarding farmland and agricultural space. I thought why not just build up! They could farm lots more if they had another floor/crop above the other. This is how my idea grew. I have been dreaming of this since I was young.
I am very excited to see this idea is on its way to fruition. Way to go humanity! 100 points! :DNov 18 2011: I have given this a lot of thought. It is very doable, but I fear that Monsanto would find a way to spread their patented seeds into the structure because it would be a threat to their profits.
Nov 18 2011: Well they will have to make a patent that predates this post ;)
That would be forgery. Unfortunately you are probably right...
But hopefully that will not happen and someone with the time and money will see this idea of mine and like it.
All it takes is for one person to turn this into reality and it will take off like a feeding frenzy! Haha :D
Helen Hupe
Oct 28 2011: But hydroponic tomatoes tase like styrofoam...................
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Oct 28 2011: I am actually glad you mentioned that, I completely forgot about that. Hydroponic tomatoes do lack in flavor as do other produce when grown with traditional hydroponic kits.
The reasons why that happens, for example; Tomatoes, is because they are lacking the nutrients in the soil and real sunlight. Tomatoes lack Vitamin C for this reason. To fix and essentially counter this problem in hydroponic farming you have to use nutrient enriched water. Something not even I can get a hold of considering the combination of nutrients would be a custom mix for each type of plant grown. That is a project for the employed Botanists to do. This idea of mine will ultimately bring farming up to speed on technology and prepare to feed a very large future with very tasty fruits and vegetables. :)
quang trinh
Nov 8 2011: thanks for share
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Gio D
Nov 8 2011: Do you know how efficient Solar Panels are? If we could fit enough solar panels on the roof of a tower to provide that much power we wouldn't need fossil fuels. Solar Panels can barely power toy cars.
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Second if the tomatoes lack vitamin C why would I eat it? If you forgot we eat food for nutrients such as vitamin C. In order to in rich the water with vitamins we need to get those vitamins from somewhere, like say real food.
Nov 8 2011: I have neighbors with solar panels on their roof. Yes I know how efficient they are. Do you? The only problem we face with solar panels today is durability. They are subject to weathering. The technology is there it just is not used in mass quantities because we are addicted to fossil fuels. We don't have to use them. Furthermore I intend to power a tower with much more than solar panels. You missed the part about combined technology of free energy sources.
As far as the tomato thing goes, you missed the part about nutrient enriched water that would fix the problem most hydroponic farmers face with this technology.
I hope this clears things up for you. :)Nov 1 2011: Nice...Nov 1 2011: Hydroponics might be good for growing lettuce to feed turtles, but not much else. It's expensive, energy-intensive, nutrient-intensive, taste-reducing and hardly a good investment in real estate.
Why don't we start by making current agriculture more efficient? Most Sub-Saharan African farmers could triple or quadruple their yields with some basic inputs.
Next I would invest in creating agricultural robots that can farm precisely in fields.
It's not like we're having land shortages, so that's not the real problem.
Nov 1 2011: Hey Laurens, thank you for your reply and for reading about my idea. I hope it isn't too much to read.
"It's not like we're having land shortages, so that's not the real problem."
Interesting point, you are right. We don't have a shortage of land, yet! Right now the world population is at 6,972,169,352 and is predicted to increase by 2 billion in the next 20 years. What about 20 years after that? I am concerned for our future generations and their needs.
Sure we don't suffer nor have an issue with over population, but we will sooner than later... I find it intriguing you mention Africa, that is a place I was thinking about. However they have lots of land they cannot use the majority of it because of wild life conservation efforts.
My idea isn't to solely grow hydroponically indoors. It is to run a Hydroponic Farm on Free Energy.
A system that essentially pays for it's self and powers it's self and with a lush crops and a plethora of green technology these towers could potentially replace Nuclear Power Plants. It would be like a Tree of Life in some ways, producing electricity, food and oxygen on a daily basis.
Chris Aldon
Oct 24 2011: I'm not entirely sure where you get your numbers from, double food production? reduce hunger 25%?
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You state it would "save on land space" then say "cities will expand"
It's not that easy, the plants still need light. I don't know how feasible a food tower is without artificial light. The cost of the solar and wind power would likely exceed the cost of the tower itself.
I'm not saying it is impossible, just saying it's not that simple.
Oct 25 2011: They have lights that feed sunlight through fiber-optic cables to indoors, this is a perfect application for that technology.
Oct 26 2011: Hey Dain;
This is a cool idea.
How does it work?
Can you tell me more about this technology?
Nov 18 2011: http://www.sunlight-direct.com/ is one example.Nov 18 2011: Awesome, thank you for the link.
This really would be a perfect application for it.
Thank you for sharing an excellent idea! :)Oct 25 2011: Well I'm not implying those figures would come from a tower over night, in time there would be more towers. That is where the estimates come from. They are approximate and based on the notion that there are 3 of these towers in every city in the world.
I have experience growing tomatoes indoors hydroponically with proper grow lights. The tomatoes came out beautiful and larger than any tomato I have ever seen. The same can be done for any plant life really. We could even grow spices and herbs. Farmers are sure to adopt this new technique as the industry grows and would either sell their lands to move near the cities or use their property for these towers or similar farming structures. So we will have a influx of farmland selling and buying. Possibly selling some nonessential older land for the population to settle into in the near future. Creating new suburban neighborhoods in rural areas and expanding space for the population. Reducing farmland space for population expansion. It is kind of like trading spaces but not. Some farmers are sure to stay and that's good for the future populace.
As far as power for the tower goes, I am pretty sure people owning such a tower would have to get the panels from the local power company. When their power gain exceeds more than what they use, it goes into the local power grid. At the end of every month the owner of the farm will get paid by the local power company for their power, that's if they exceed their own limits and give energy to the city. They could even rig a rain reservoir on the roof to collect water to help reduce the facilities use on the local supply. These farms would want both wind and solar power to ensure consistent energy. The reservoir can be rigged for this also, thus adding water energy to the mix. In my opinion a green friendly hydroponic farm or food tower like described would be very effective & essential for our future society.
Sorry I wasn't clear at first, I'm new here. Thank you for your questions.Nov 13 2011: Yes I am here, thanks.
Speak again on how farmland is valuable. Remember, we are in North America, farmland is cheap here. Drive across the prairies here in Alberta and you'll see how much abundance we have.
The building is energy intensive by how much energy it is going to take to build a tower like that. Contemplate not only the construction of the tower, but also the energy required to make advanced materials like nanotechnology. Large microscopes that look at particles take a lot of energy, especially since they don't have a way to easily replicate and build carbon nanotubes. Vapor deposition take a while.
And still on my argument, that free energy you speak of is nowhere near enough to power something of this magnitude. Fundamental laws of physics and heat transfer. The building radiates energy and will at an impressive rate when exposed to cold air outside. There's a lot more to that.Nov 8 2011: I'm sorry, but are listening to yourself? This is all just ludicrous.
First off, the world creates food to feed 11 billion people, just take away the food that every North American gorges on and redistribute it. So that solves the food problem.
Second, please do not think that this window technology is some big improvement that will come around in 20 years. This is nanotechnology we are talking about. There's a reason this stuff if just research. The energy needed to create technology and build towers like this is enough to say no to it.
Third, from the sounds of it, these botanists are going to be burned alive on each floor. Mirrored roof and ground? They would be blind after working there for a year. And your worried that they will contaminate the crop? Do you know that your mushrooms are made it fecal matter? Did you know your supposed to wash your mushrooms to remove the rest of it before you cook them? Did you know that all the white garlic we use (pretty much all of our garlic used) is grown in china with fecal matter again. Do you know that strawberries are radiated twice before they cross the US/Canada border? Do you understand the actual energy required to do this is huge! Learn something about heat transfer. Heat radiates outwards with colder temperatures, regardless of anything else. You don't need this tower in tropical places to create exotic foods. However you need this 'tower' to create tropical food in places like Canada where the temp goes to -50 degrees C. Your tower will not produce energy and will suck the life off the grid to create food. That's how cops catch grow ops, because they take too much power off the grid.
Not only that, it won't rain for 8 months of the year, and the energy to melt the snow up top the tower for water would be enough to cause you to take energy off the grid.
Just have people grow food in their natural backyards where it was meant to be grown, then you don't make this mistake of a tower.
Nov 8 2011: Ludicrous? Really? Haha I am flattered. They say that to most anyone who dares to think big.
1. The majority of American food is very unhealthy, I wouldn't want to feed that to anyone.
2. Too much energy to build? What? That didn't stop anyone one else from building the large cities we know now... Also I merely threw Justin Hall-Tipping's idea out there as a future upgrade to the system. I did not imply that could be done now.
3. Each floor regardless of time of day would be a controlled environment depending on what is being grown, essentially the temperature. The only rooms allowed to be hot are the ones growing tropic fruits and such. Yes I know not ALL produce can be strictly grown hydroponically. That doesn't mean we can't give it a enriched environment to grow in with even more nutrients it doesn't normally get and a simulated habitat of its natural environment. What was that about cops? I don't even see how that relates to this.
4. Water as I said would be recycled through the building. This would actually last long enough for seasonal rains. As far as snow that wouldn't be a problem at all, they would just shovel it in the reservoir, which works much like a large laundry shaft. The reservoir would not be directly on the roof. It would be mostly covered and concealed with latched doors to seal it if needed. That doesn't seem very energy costly to me.
5. Though I do agree more people should grow in their yards if they are privileged enough to have it. But you cannot force them to grow their own. A lot of people said they were making a mistake by sailing to sea to explore and find out if the world was round or flat and everyone told them they would fall off the edge of the Earth, that they were ludicrous...
Nov 8 2011: All I can say is that you have to be something other then an engineer.
Towers were built because land was valuable. Farmers land is not valuable. In order for the land to be valuable, someone must pay the cost of it. Fields that grow food do not produce a lot of money. Towers that grow food produce even less money. It costs more to grow food in a tower than on an open field.
Also, the technology you speak of would make the building 10 times more costly than building a regular office tower. You must not be a business student either.
Nov 10 2011: I said they would mostly build these near cities, that land is valuable. Don't forget that farm land is also very valuable. I suppose you didn't read my entire article. It shows in your criticism.
How is it that the building I speak of is energy costly when it has multiple sources of free energy? You throw your arguments around like insults and offer no structure for your conclusions.
Furthermore I would like to welcome you to the community. You must be new here.Nov 1 2011: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain
Happy Samhain!
I want to point out that with my proposed idea to utilize city space & green technology combined with infrastructure would make every day a day of harvest.
Food for thought! ;)Oct 28 2011: Continued: 2nd; Following up on my last post, I want to talk about Botany & Science. In the future when these food towers are implemented there is going to be a need for variety of taste and texture. These towers will have laboratories for their Botanists to study plant life and vegetation extensively looking for ways to make new food by altering plants to produce different types of new seeds. Anything is possible with science and with the proper gear and laboratory I am confident that this facility would not only prosper in producing food and energy. It has potential to give botanists a new opportunity to discover new things about plant life to. I remember seeing a scifi movie once with a nacho flavored banana in it. I remember thinking to myself "I bet that's going to happen one day, freaking nacho flavored bananas!" and today I couldn't be far from being right. Today we have botanists growing trees with "glow in the dark" leaves with the goal to one day replace street lights with them. If that is possible than so are nacho flavored bananas. We just haven't tried it yet.
Food towers that produce vegetation on a constant non stop production basis would have a opportunity to harness another free source of energy right there in their own gardens. Oxygen! Also known as air, this invisible gas is likely to fill the entire building after just six months of production. This is clean oxygen produced by plants right there in the tower. Oxygen fresh and clean enough to contain and use for our employees and building. Creating a very healthy work environment in and outside the crops. With luck the facilities will produce enough air to give some back to the community.
With large enough food towers utilizing all of the mentioned sources of free energy they could power a city in formation! They can drastically increase food production in one year more than you would using land. Expanding neighborhoods in rural areas where farmers start selling property for one of these towers.Oct 26 2011: Continued: The tower will have a system unique only to food towers. It will utilize the tower's water system. This system will work like a unique plumping network that transfers the harvest from crops to the bottom of the tower for processing. Employees will take produce and put it in a device that inserts the produce into the special waterway which takes the produce in the water all the way down to the bottom of the tower for clean & safe sorting. The pumps would then take the water up to the top of the tower and generally flow through out the whole tower in a series of veins so to speak. It gives the food tower energy & life to consume & create life as long as the tower's systems are monitored & controlled equally.
Also they will have a network of air pumped tubes for sending items like the ones used in Banks or price clubs. It would solely be for the paper work required from employees that might attach other items such as specimens and samples. It will have a few different types of elevators for various tasks. It will be automatic, nothing you haven't seen before at a Mega-Mart, but utilized more efficiently through out the entire tower. Automatic opening & closing doors. On & off lighting when entering and leaving rooms except for the farming areas where the food grows. Those lights will always be on, even during the day in crops that require a hot & humid environment.
Considering their potential to one day be main centers of food production; They could become targets for terrorist attacks and would require the best security with the best technology available. When the world has many of these towers in cities they could potentially become targets of war. Foreign invaders might see it as a means to weaken their enemy. This would tighten airspace security in the areas effected and would help prevent planes from flying close to the city the tower resides in before warned. This would be a welcome change in city areas of the world after the era of 911 Emergencies.Oct 25 2011: The floors in this tower would be named Crops. Instead of X amount of floors it would have X amount of crops. ie; Instead of saying "I am going to floor 44?" you will say something like "You have to go to Crop 44 and fix Pump 11 again". All Crops will need drains in the floor and would serve as a way to collect & reuse used water. Some crops will use more water than others. Rain & water received through the drains in the crops & roof would be filtered & sterilized. The water would be run through hydroponic engines to create more energy for the tower. The engine is a high tech waterwheel for use in hydroponic farming & the tower's special plumbing system. The hydroponic engines would be intertwined with the towers plumbing being utilized for free energy while moving water through the tower for it's essential needs. The system is able to give & receive water from the local water supply if ever needed In case of limited to no rain & long rainy days. Just like when the tower exceeds it's power requirement and gives energy to the local grid. The hydroponic engine will work based on a pump applying pressure through a pipeline that flows into and spirals around aligned rows of about 5 waterwheels. Each wheel would have a wall in between each row that separates the flowing water from each row causing the pressure to snow ball. All the water would be forced through the 1st wheel before being pushed into openings that veer into the next row flowing through the 5 rows and around the wheels under intense pressure housed in a metal casing like a car engine. Pressure on the waterwheels makes them spin. The faster they spin the faster the engine makes free energy and pumps water out the other end for reuse. It can run it's self & computers close by to insure those key tools stay up & running. With this water system the tower is capable of putting it's own fires out. Buildings can't burn up with a water reservoir on the roof.
I'm running out of space again. I'll continue later....Oct 25 2011: Because the website does not let me write as much as I want, I will add more through comments. First I want to say that I am happy to answer any questions you have and thank you for reading. I am throwing this idea out there because I hope that by doing so it will encourage and inspire others in thinking of ways to help perfect the future. I am interested in working & collaborating with anyone with similar interests. Can you think of anything to improve my idea?
When I say towers I am saying sky scrapers. These towers should preferably be among the tallest in the world. Not just for optimum exposure to the sun, but wind and rain as well. They should also be as wide as possible for maximum harvesting. This building would have a first floor grocery store for the local populace as well as a means to ship and deliver produce nation wide. A under ground parking garage with eco friendly additions for hybrids and other means of charging your vehicles battery with free power. Including a air pump for tires, free air. These things will be free because the energy it takes to run it is free, and the tower would still have extra energy to give to the local grid.
Tower employees will be suited with a white body suit kind of like scrubs surgeons and nurses wear. This color reflects the most light and I think is essential for reflecting daylight brought in through the windows as well as being optimal for keeping employees cool around hot lamps. They would carry their own oxygen tanks at all times when cultivating the crops because we don't want any chance of someone coughing or sneezing on the produce on accident or inhaling allergens. Not to mention there will be a lot of moisture in the air with nutrients. Air in these crops cant be contaminated. Some might have a high concentration of mist to resemble a tropical environment. Cleanliness will also be of the most important and required thing for all employees. You have to guarantee people this food is good, clean and healthy.


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Have you thought of including any blocks that might allow through-hole IC's to be placed on one of these boards? Forgive me if there is already something like that, I don't have time to look through your library yet.
I can recommend replacing the LED driver circuit with a Joulethief circuit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joule_thief). It is smaller, more reliable, your batteries will last longer and you can easily add LEDS in parallel for more light.
The necessary parts can be retrieved from a broken CFL (low power fluorescent lamp).
What do you suggest I do about the coil? I know I could scavenge the parts, but I would rather it be maximally printed & precisely reproducible, using similar techniques.
Cool technology, keep up the good work!
I hear that wire wrap does work very well, but I believe it still requires some specialized, expensive equipment. I'm hoping to do as much as possible with just one machine (the whole structure, plus the circuit).
Like I said before, this was a very cool and inspired use of 3D printing but I think it will only be practical for simple circuits at large scales. now if there were only a way to easily embed metal pins in a 3D printed project... it might also be useful for custom shaped boards using wire wrap...
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It must be nice to be Tom Brady. You can spike the ball in the middle of the field and then berate the referee for having the nerve to grant a timeout to the other team, despite the fact that there were approximately 38 coaches and players calling for the timeout.
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And then as a makeup, the refs gift him a touchdown on as bad a pass interference call as youll ever see.


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PUNXSUTAWNEY — Gov. Tom Corbett professed his early spring preferences just prior to Punxsutawney Phil's 126th annual prognostication early Thursday morning at Gobbler's Knob, but as history has shown, the Seer of Seer relies on nothing else except than his own instinct.
The result, as read by Vice President Mike Johnston: "As I look at the crowd of Gobbler's Knob, many shadows do I see; so six more weeks of winter it must be."
When asked if he was pleased with Punxsy Phil's prognostication, Corbett replied, "No. Now we've got to get PennDOT ready."
The evening before, at the annual Groundhog Banquet, Corbett implored of Inner Circle President Bill Deeley, "Don't screw up winter. After flooding this past year, I like not having to salt the roads this year."
Regardless of the prognostication, Corbett — the second seated Pennsylvania governor to attend Groundhog Day, after Ed Rendell in 2003 — praised Punxsy for bringing this small-town tradition to the masses for all to see.
"We've always wanted to attend Groundhog Day" Corbett said with his wife, Susan, by his side shortly before Punxsy Phil's prediction Thursday morning. "It's a good chance to see what we have here in western Pennsylvania ... c'mon, this is great.
"Today, the world is looking at Punxsutawney, Pa., and how many time does the world do that. This is a great day."
Onstage briefly at Gobbler's Knob prior to the prognostication, Corbett even led the crowd — estimated between 15,000 and 18,000 people, an impressive number, considering the event landed on a weekday this year — in a chant: "I love Phil, I love Phil ..."
Unseasonably warm temperatures — with highs around 57 degrees Tuesday and Wednesday — looked to be a positive for Punxsy Phil's annual gathering at Gobbler's Knob, unlike 2011, when snow, ice and freezing rain kept many revelers indoors. Oddly enough, last year, Punxsy Phil predicted an early spring.
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Just A Hello
Posted 09 August 2012 - 11:27 PM
I just joined.
I'm frustrated and hurting.
I'm surrounded by intelligent, compassionate people who are struggling to understand.
I do not want to talk about such private issues with everyone.
I've been gluten free for almost 5 months. I was diagnosed 4 months ago and am on my third month of dapsone.
I started taking neurontin a year ago, when the rash began. Now I'm taking both. I'm doped up and in pain all the time. Very restricted diet. I want this to end. I had a life.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 08:08 AM
In the meantime, feel free to rant or whine or whatever you need to do. I think every one of us here has had at least one whiney thread. I know I made several, and every one was met with compassion and understanding, AND gread advice.
It's going to take time, but it WILL get better. I promise. (((((HUGS)))))
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gluten-free since June, 2011
It took 3 !/2 years but my intolerances to corn, soy, and everything else (except gluten) are gone!
Life is good!
Posted 10 August 2012 - 11:19 AM
I can't tell you what a relief it is to find you guyses.
Reading, reading all the same symptoms and solutions I have and have tried.
I have faith.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 11:39 AM
So sorry you are having such a rough time. Just wanted to second what bartfull posted. We have all posted our frustrations a time or two or maybe ten! Feel free to vent - there is always someone popping on that will try to help alleviate frustration or answer questions.
You will improve if you keep at it - try to notice and celebrate any small improvements along the way.
This will get better and you will gain health - unfortunately it can take time.
Hang in there!
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Undiagnosed Celiac Disease ~ 43 years
3/26/09 gluten-free - dignosed celiac - blood 3/3/09, biopsy 3/26/09, double DQ2 / single DQ8 positive
Health history since celiac diagnosis became too long -- moved to the "about me" section of my profile
My children and I all have multiple copies of the genes for Celiac Disease, along with large variety of symptoms/resolution gluten-free
Current tally from me, three kids and two grands: 4 diagnosed with Celiac Disease, 2 NCGS
Get PROPERLY tested BEFORE REMOVING GLUTEN.
ALWAYS independently research health related information found on internet forums/blogs.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 04:01 PM
I have dh too. Feel free to post wherever you like but there is a dh forum too --- it is here:
it's probably better to post dh questions there.
Otherwise for all other celiac issues then pick the appropriate forum & go for it.
Geez, I think I've posted 2 whiney threads. We get it. Been there, done that.
Tell us Lolli what is going on with you? Where is your pain? How is your dh? What are you eating? Talk to us.
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Self diagnosed dh Sept. 2011~~~ confirmed dx July 18, 2012
Gluten free Dec. 2011
Soy free Dec. 2011
Hubs self diagnosed dh March 30, 2012
Hubs gluten free March 30, 2012
Summer 2013 We both have added back a little soy which is near unavoidable & we are doing okay with that small amount.
Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:25 PM
I can't even begin to describe the horror of this last year and a half.
Secondly, I am a very positive, loving, rightly ambitious person. But, this thing is bigger than me. I can't tell what, of the many things going on, is affecting me most right now.
I have always been skinny. I was raised on the Atkins diet, because my father was a heart surgeon. I could eat whatever I wanted, but always made healthy choices from my upbringing.
Because of the unbelievable things that have gone on in the last year and a half, in my personal life, I have allowed myself to grieve and dip into self pity. I normally don't indulge in self pity.
Dec. 2010 my lover emailed me that he had begun an affair with a married woman. She demanded a full std test, so that she wouldnt bring anything home to her husband. He tested positive for 3 things. Oh and that he didn't want to see me anymore. I think I went into shock. I had to see them at church. I stopped going. I coped. I had so much on my plate. It was winter and that has always been hard on me because I had no fat. I was enrolled in classical ballet, to maintain strength and manage my scoliosis. I added 1,000 calories a day, it was a hard winter that year, mostly bread. At the end of the semester, a rash appeared, just above my tail bone. I thought it was heat rash from the leotard and tights and the growing heat in the studio. It got worse.
I thought I had caught something. I did. But, only one.
I began suppressive therapy and excluding stressful people, places. I took algebra over the summer and made A's even doped up like that. My daughter was in a 3 wheeler accident that broke her nose and we basically had a burn victim on our hands. I stepped back from any kind of public life, then.
By fall, no improvement. I stopped suppressive therapy because I knew I couldn't function with a full course load and live in general, like that. By now, 10 of my friends had died from overdoses, drinking, age. I am a recovered alcoholic. I removed myself from AA. The grief inside my home group was tearing it apart. I still work with my sponsors and sponsees. Fast forward to spring this year.
I was on the back porch, barely able to do what I needed to do. Trying to cut myself some slack after so much. By then 20+ friends gone.
I sat. I thought,"where is the girl (I'm 46) that used to be at work at 7:30?! Lifting 155 lbs of hurricane tarps?
This is not normal for me, for anyone.
My mother suggested I look into celiac.
And there it was. There it ALL was. I started gluten free.
It had previously taken 5 years to gain five pounds. I thought I was just high metabolism. Doing too much. Dancing to much. Gluten free, I gained 20 pounds in less than three months. I brought everything to my doctor. Originally, I wasn't going to take dapsone, but after no relief from gluten free, I was willing to try anything. She agreed.
In April I was SO hungry. Eating twigs and berries. I went fully gluten free. Raw. Hard. I read, I learned, I applied, I screwed up. I guess I'm just chock full of antibodies. I've read that production can go up after gluten free, for some reason. And about cc, iodine, and foods whose molecules are shaped similar to gluten and the villi freaks out.
I work, volunteer, and study emergency management and business administration.
I'm not giving up. There is good in the world and good to do.
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Posted 10 August 2012 - 06:33 PM
I went down to rice, cucumber, and pear. This week I added banana.
I had the opportunity to deploy nationally, this summer, but I declined due to obvious health reasons.
I bought and packed gluten free food, just in case. It's been a very busy year in my field. I switched my prescriptions to Walgreens and keep my eye on my blood test dates.
As it is now, it would be very difficult to go into a downed infrastructure and remain well.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:10 AM
And maybe, just maybe, my story will help somebody else.
It does! I'm new here but just wanted to say Lolli, you're also a very good writer!
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Diagnosed with wheat hates me 4/13
Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:53 PM
This will get better and you will gain health- unfortunately it can take time. They say "Knowing is not enough; we mustapply. Willing is not enough; we must do".
Good Luck .
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:15 PM
I read a bunch of stuff and applied it.
I had my first itchless night, in six years last week.
My food list has gotten tiny, tiny, but the symptoms are subsiding.
I can hardly believe it.
I haven't been glutened in about 4 weeks.
My bloating has diminished and I no longer feel like I'm being disemboweled.
Now, I just need to keep this up and slowly test individual foods.
Not really ready to test anything. Ouch.
I'm gonna keep coming back to learn!
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Self diagnosed dh Sept. 2011~~~ confirmed dx July 18, 2012
Gluten free Dec. 2011
Soy free Dec. 2011
Hubs self diagnosed dh March 30, 2012
Hubs gluten free March 30, 2012
Summer 2013 We both have added back a little soy which is near unavoidable & we are doing okay with that small amount.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 11:43 AM
Hi ; )
I just joined.
I'm frustrated and hurting.
I'm surrounded by intelligent, compassionate people who are struggling to understand.
I do not want to talk about such private issues with everyone.
I've been gluten free for almost 5 months. I was diagnosed 4 months ago and am on my third month of dapsone.
I started taking neurontin a year ago, when the rash began. Now I'm taking both. I'm doped up and in pain all the time. Very restricted diet. I want this to end. I had a life.
Hi, I'm kind of new here but I want to welcome you too and tell you that I totally understand your frustration, this is a hard thing to accept!
I'd joined here several years ago but at the time wasn't sure I "belonged" here as I've never been officially diagnosed; also the forum didn't seem too active so I eventually forgot to come back. Through those years I kept eating wheat/gluten periodically. When things caught up with me in some way, I'd stop for a few months but eventually fell into temptation again. It was also amazing how I'd "forget" things I'd read before and how I could not see the connection between my worsening health and the pattern I'd created.
It took a rough wake-up call last Spring for me to come to terms with my "gluten sensitivity" very possible celiac. It came in the form of a thyroiditis attack (2nd since last year...) accompanied by the panic attacks from hell, intermittent diarrhea, queasiness and pain in the liver area, nearly paralizing fatigue and depression all of which interfered with my sleep. The puzzling thing was that all that happened about 2 months after I'd cleaned up my diet again (but I learned here that some people go through a period of "detox"). Also, during my so-called gluten-free period I'd cheated a little a couple of times by having cheesecake with cookie crust, at the time I thought it was more of a "wheat allergy" so I'd pop an antihistamine and avoid the worsening of my chronic nasal congestion (my only most obvious and immediate symptom) and thought that was the worst of it.
But I forgot about my thyroid... I'd read many years ago that antibodies from gluten would attack it, so I've had a few thyroiditis attacks, during those my throat area gets swollen so I can't lie on my side when I sleep or I choke, and the symptoms that go with it are like being hyperthyroid, not fun at all. And I also "forgot" that last year eating wheat had begun to give me loose bowel movements (and I was always constipated...) and awful abdominal cramps.
But I also read that such antibodies can be lowered by taking vit. B12 and selenium, so I made a point to try to take those supplements as regularly as I could remember, which sometimes I just didn't, but on the whole I think that kept me from things getting much worse. So perhaps you could give that a try. I'll try to find the article I read about it (if it's still available online) so I can give you the link, who knows, perhaps that might help shorten/speed up your recovery period.
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From the stress of the spiking levels, a large water change, and yet another large water change due to the hose slipping out, I lost another ryukin.
That was a long time ago though... mostly I am posting here to say...
This tub pond has been torn down. It no longer in use.
It has however been replaced with a 250 gallon permanent feature.
Well.. something came in the night. Snatched my pleco and captain harlock.
Half a dead platy was sat on the filter scumming up everything.
A waterchange and some prime and everything was good.
The hose got knocked over the edge a few hours later.
All the water drained except 4".
I filled it again.
My water degasses from 8.4 to 7.5 in about an hour.
So the pH swing can be deadly.
The next day one of my ryukins was floating.
All is well now and I have two new goldies.
A black moore and a calico ryukin.
Also.. This month the tub pond is being torn down!
To be replaced by a slightly larger (I think around 200 gallons) more attractive feature.
Thank you!
Congratulations! I'm hoping to get mine to breed in my container pond as well. I've noticed the females are MUCH fatter than the males. I'm knocking on wood.
Good luck with your permanent pond.
Well... The water forget me not withered to a dry back husk and fell off.
So sad... Maybe it's a winter marginal?
But wait! Hope! Little tiny leaves appearing from the base of the pot! Hope!
What else... Went though and cleaned it all up.. Checked on all my fish. My bristlenose is twice the size! And his bristles are starting to come in lol..
Everyone else was in great shape. One of the mystery snails died.
Shoved some more fertilizer tabs in the pot. Hopefully now that its hot and feeding is in full swing I'll get to see what colour this thing is. I want it to flower before I trash it! Or move. Most likely move it.
What else is there...
I got...Some.. Hmm...
Oh... we played around with the pond setup.
Didn't like where we were going and scrapped the idea for something smaller and better suited. This new one will be around 200 gallons (very small I know), and house 7 goldfish, a school of whiteclouds and whatever other fish are in the tub pond. That is because. It will be replacing the tub pond!
Soon-ish this will be a more permanent feature in my yard.
A picture. Guess what I found while cleaning the pond?
No platties or mollies since I made sure they were all male. They must've been in there for a while. There are only 5 of the little guys. Which is good. I don't like dealing with fish babies lol..
They are whitecloud minnows! Pretty cool.
And the tadpoles are almost little frogs! Just a tiny bit of tail left...
Not too sure if you can see the babies. I put them in an old milk jug we had lying around for this lol. Not the best picture.
I saw a thalia in person the other day. Very nice plant. I especially like it in giant hedges or bunches. Makes a big impact.
I think my next aquatic purchase might be an Exquisite Teacup of the Bowl lotus or a dwarf lily. And siberian pink cups.
Not for this tub pond though. My next one.
This one.. Well the fish ate all the azolla moss. Which is expected. I intend to pick up more but my local nursery... Which I'm now going to call LN for convenience.
My water lettuce exploded in growth and now I'm pulling out handfuls every morning. Also expected. The frogbit has barely grown at all. Not expected.
The water forget me not filled in real nice and was a giant bush of green and blue. I awoke the other day to find all the leaves completely stripped. Just some bare stems. It looks terrible.
And below it was a particular type of poop I knew a recognized but couldnt quite place. It hit me all of a sudden.. Caterpillar.
I searched for it for a while before I spotted it in the pond munching away on a lily pad.
When I went to get it my goldfish saw my hand and rushed for it. The caterpillar fell in and I found out that my fish can all rush in, rip apart, and eat a whole caterpillar in around 10 seconds.
That's it for this pond.
I think I'm waiting for my LN's to get some other marginals in. They get big batches of the same 5 plants over and over and every moth or so get something interesting in. lol...
Tis a waiting game. I hope the plants can overwinter here.
|I had my Thalia in a basket. I divided it every year and kept the smaller portion of it and traded the bigger one into the LFS for other ponders. Mini cattails are pretty cool too, or any lilies. Moss also likes these tubs if you can get a handle on algae. Just drape it over the side and it will grow somewhat emergent.
This is indeed my first one. We had one that came with the place. But it was tiny and stagnant and gross. We drained it and its now a flower bed.
First serious pond sort of deal... I'm in love with them.
These are so much fun to do. I have to be patient though... Things need to grow.
Thanlia dealbata. That was beautiful. I just googled it. A little big for this small pond though.
I am working on a 700 gallon pond and that plant is fer sure gonna be on the list.
Or would a small pot contain it?
Right now lemon bacopa is on the list. I'm trying to make alot of the plants in and around it edible.
Updates.... I got fertilizer tabs. I hope they make a difference.
The water forget me not is adorbale and bouncing back well.
It's hates full sun. It wilts in the sun. As soon as the shade is on it though it's back up and happy and blooming.
It seems to be handling the sun better with each passing day though.
Thats about it...
I need plant suggestions... Plants that need only their roots in water. But not in soil.
I was thinking of using it as a plant factory of sorts.
My LFS loves my Windelov java ferns. So I was thinking of using it to farm store credit lol...
I wonder.....
|Wow, I cant believe no one has commented on your pics yet! I guess the pond section kinda gets skipped over. i love your tub setup! I cant believe more people dont do these, they are so fun. Is this your first one? For marginals I highly recommend Thalia dealbata. its a beautiful plant! You can do a ton of aquarium plants in these too. I grew Blyxa japonica last year.
Got a few floaters. I have to replace them every so often because the goldfish eat the roots.
They love them.
It gets kind of expensive. I intend on getting more water lettuce, and more marginals with time.
Since its spring the price of the marginals went up to $10 a pot..
And a pot goes a long way in this pond.
I do have one pond marginal right now... I'm still debating which other ones I want...
My marginal is water forget me not's.. Pretty blue flowers with large cascading leaves.
I just got it.
The one gallon pot it comes in is too big so I split it into 3 smaller pots. Two in the front corner and one in the back.
It didnt lbeing torn apart and shoved into new smaller pots.
So alot of the growth wilted. But I do see new flowers and new sturdy growth so. Heres to hoping!
Two things I've noticed... It doesnt like being handled at all..
And it doesnt like alot of sun.
Other than that.. Heres some full shots of the tub. More marginals will eventually cover the rim of the tub, hiding the sides.
And eventually all the seeds I planted in between the bricks. will spring forth into life.
So it looks pretty crappy right now...
I also need to do something about that hose as well... Make some sort of water fall...
A planted water fall...
And in the last shot you can see two of my goldfish happily munching on the water velvet.
And algae.. And pond snails.. And Floater roots. But really not too many.
they don't eat anything else I've put in. But I do keep fresh veggies clipped in 24/7... They tend to eat those over the plants..
Put some frogbit out there. They havent touched it.
Now on to back story!!!!!!
Definitely a sailing ship..
Their goal.. The Chest of Eden..
I need to make a trip to the local nursery, get some fertilizer tabs, and some marginals and floaters...
Its strange.. It threw out some leaves.. And all off a sudden threw out tony of giant sized leaves. So many that it covered the entire pond. With all the leaves overlapping and in piles.
They rotted away.
All at once.
And now its about to throw out a new batch of smaller leaves.. Learning its environment maybe?
|Are those gold fish eating any plants? Maybe I should get one, will finally have a use for duckweed.
Oh, and jobs for the other able bodied sea-fish:
Snails, Plecos: They are deck hands, in charge of swabbing the deck
Mollies, Platies: They are in charge of raising the sails (if it is a sailing ship) or maybe they are engineers (if this is a powered ship).
White Cloud Minnow: Cabin boy. (or girl)
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