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Jihad, is it a holy battle to cause fighting in this world or to bring about peace?
Jihad is a widely discussed subject, since it deals with a major part of the worlds religious population, Islam. People have misconceptions on Jihad and feel like they should make it safe for the rest of the world by softening its meaning. For a Muslim, Jihad is the most difficult, and rewarding of activities during our lifetime.
Peoples view can only be clarified with proper evidence and talking about it. Id appreciate knowing what you guys think and if you are prepared to learn more about the reality of things.
Apr 4 2013: I am very irreligious but respect belief systems that enrich humanity. Growing in a country and a state with a huge muslim population, listening to 'La ilaha illa-Allah' as part of Azan my whole life, I had the privilege of watching the people of Islamic faith.
I'd say Islam has moved quite far from the saying of Hadith "the ink of a scholar is more holy than the blood of a martyr" these days. Sadly, Jihad, the lower and physical struggle, has come to be identified as the only meaning and Jihad, the higher and spiritual struggle has almost ceased to make impact on people.
I do not believe religion is going to determine our lives in 100 years from now but I think the cultural traditions that religions created will continue to work on societies. It will be a shame if the violent and fundamentalist fractions of Muslims (they are a minority) can hijack the benign, intellectual and deeply spiritual essence of Islam that flourished in the 8th Century.
I'd place my hope and trust on you brother Yusuf.
Barry Palmer
Apr 4 2013: Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
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I think that the peaceful intentions of the vast majority of the community of Islam are obvious to see, provided one is open to the obvious.
It is sad that the people who believe in violence have been so successful in spreading their propaganda regarding Islam and jihad.
There are real and potentially conflicting differences between Islam and the concepts of freedom, particularly the separation of religion and state. These differences need not lead to war or any form of violence.
The real conflict is between those who seek peace and those who prefer violence.
Nathan Cook
Apr 4 2013: so jihad can be summarized as "doing your best in the way of Alah". thats a good way to go about life whatever ones belief. after reading all your comments it made me think of how hitler took a Buddhist symbol(correct me if im wrong) and put bad connotations on it, though a mixture of media perpetuating one side had a lot to do with the negative look on jihad. if there were muslims speaking against the extreme form, and im sure there were, they wouldnt get much media play.
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Apr 4 2013: Thanks Nathan for the summary. In essence, i live in South Africa, and we have Muslim communities who do their best to keep clean, pray often, not look at females without respect, and also help the community among many other things. I haven't grown up to find Muslims fighting a holy war to impose their views on people. This is wrong not only Islamically but for anyone that claims humanity as well.
I know that people can relate to doing good deeds like those mentioned above as well, and see that these are the same things we strive for as well.
Nathan Cook
Apr 4 2013: i appreciate you making the clarification. you did change my view on the word and any misconceptions were my own fault for takin the medias word for it and not researching myself. one thing i didnt think was that all muslims were represented by what the media showed. currents a real good channel for showing another side. theres a lotta cold blooded stuff that goes down that would never see CBS NBC and any other american news feed unless it was amy goodman reporting. once again , thank u for raisin the awareness.Apr 13 2013: Yes I agree.
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I do find it sad how many do not truly understand Islam, and it upsets me grealtly.
For ever since watching "Lesley Hazleton: On reading the Koran", it made me realize I was wrong.
And I view that the concept of an "internal Jihad" is a very admirable one! Which I admire greatly for it shows "willpower and motivational skills" and a desire to become a more "empathetic person", and "get in touch with Allah!" ;) (If I understand it correctly)
It an interesting question though, because in my opinion they are the same thing, to make peace you must cause fighting. It is just the way you choose to frame it.
However, as a Strong agnostic, I do find spiritual beliefs amazing, and have never truly understood them!
While I must ask you :
What does a Jihad achieve for you? :-) (Inner peace?)
(On this topic I recommend to you the debate I started : "Can we ever design an experiment which can determine whether God exist or not?"
Link : http://www.ted.com/conversations/17451/can_we_ever_design_an_experime.html) I won't go on about this, because this is a completely separate issue!
P.S I hope I have not offended you at all! This was not my intention! :PApr 5 2013: G'day Yusuf
This has come up before but maybe not on this site not sure on that one.........Present day Jihad is related to violence & warring but that of course wasn't always the case like with any group rising up to voice their own misgivings.
If we take a look at the Spanish inquisition, the inquisition was originally intended in large part to ensure the orthodoxy of those who converted from Judaism and Islam (Wikipedia) however it escalated into a bloody war with the Moors. The point is Christianity wasn't about dominance or warring in God's name in the first place but loving thy neighbour but a certain group of Christians got together & turned it into something else for which it was never intended to be. Jihad can be & is similar to the Spanish inquisition but it doesn't have to be.
Apr 5 2013: Hi Matthew.
Thank you for your view and I respect it. I feel that as the human race on the whole, we are getting closer to appreciate a peaceful way of living. The ideas that we all want to do good show us that we do have goodness in us as a built-in trait. Though we seem to misjudge others quite often and sometimes too easily. I wouldn't say that we as individuals have all the answers, but our attitude towards people who do not share our beliefs are quite lacking.
Apr 5 2013: G'day Yusf
Don't get me wrong Yusuf I don't blame easterners for retaliating because the west have been using & abusing the east from day dot however fighting fire with fire has very little to do with our own religious beliefs, no true religious belief tells you to go out & kill in the name of God unless one wishes to manipulate religious teachings for one's own desire.
I would love the east to show the way through true spiritual teachings without forcing one's beliefs onto another that is where the real power lies not in violence, by retaliating all one is doing is showing how they can be like the people they are retaliating against, show the way please.
MathewApr 5 2013: So the Jihad is the struggle against injustice, with both injustices one see's in the world and inside oneself. This is hardly a new concept to those of us who are not Muslim so and I believe we can all relate. Of coarse it is taken out of context by those without a cultural understanding of the practice, we know only what we have seen. Far too many times have the only things I've heard about Islamic Jihad been about the physical violence done in the name of the Muslim faith despite its real purpose. Each of us struggle with our own inner demons, our temptations, our emotions; From what I read, and correct me if I am wrong, this inner struggle is as important a part of Jihad as standing up the evil we see outside of ourselves. I agree that one should stand up against violence, tyranny, oppression, hatred and abuse in the world and if that is the Muslim term for this struggle than I agree that it is a concept shared by many though perhaps without the specific traits of the Muslim faith. Good people are not so different in this regard. Also, those who wish to cause evil are similar to each other; they seek justification for their hatred and violence and so champion a cause seen by many to be rightious that those they are attacking did not understand the true meaning of, hence the misconception. I like the example of Hitler using the Buddhist symbol for his swastika, another one that might hit home is the KKK championing christianity to persecute people of all different faiths, ethnicities, and political views among other things. We can not control who takes our principles and twists them into an excuse to hurt and to hate, but we can try to look deeper than only those who use these causes in spite of the true intent of what they teach, and not consider all with related yet peaceful views as exactly the same as the ones of violence. Thank you for sharing part of your culture and clarifying. It seems a noble cause when practiced nonviolently.
Apr 5 2013: Hi Chris! I appreciate your feedback and understanding. Please read my reply comment to ZX Style just below and see what I explained to him about Muslims and violence in this world in our context and what we as Muslims are actually thought about this. Thank you.
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Apr 5 2013: Thank you for your feedback and understanding. The fighting that you hear about across the world is being done by Muslims who claim that it is in the name of Allah. Please note that none of these 'wars' that are fought are being done as a conquest or to force somebody to do things. Most of the time the it is as a reaction of defense to people attacking their rights, families and beliefs. If somebody is attacked, then surely they are allowed to defend themselves. What we see on the media are mostly propaganda driven stories I feel.
There are places such as Nigeria where there are Muslim vigilantes 'Boko haram' who go around killing people in their country who they believe are propagating unislamic practices such as prostitution, drinking alcohol and others. Although they may feel that they are doing something noble, it is infact unislamic. Our prophet Mohammed (may peace be upon him) thought us how to live with people who aren't Muslim as he did so in his lifetime.
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Apr 5 2013: As a Muslim my job is to practice my faith and be the best I can be. My commitment to my community and family in terms of Islam is of respect,loyalty and support.
The fighting that you elude to across the world which involves Muslims can be many things, but the people who know best of their pains are those that are in it themselves. In Islam we are taught not to judge people to evil or good since we do not know what is truly in their hearts. I cannot objectionably do anything about the fighting in those countries unless I can appreciate what is truly happening there. If the Muslims are in the wrong,it'll be my duty to try and help them find their way. If they are justified it'll be my duty to support them.
In essence what I'm saying is,if one wants to judge the conflict that is happening,they'll will need a detailed assessment of what is truly happening there. This can apply to any conflict. With half truths and propaganda driven views, we cannot say who is right and who is wrong except what answers our minds have been moulded to view.
I hope that this is adequate.
Thank you,
YusufApr 7 2013: "The fighting that you hear about across the world is being done by Muslims who claim that it is in the name of Allah."
It is unfortunate that the world seems to believe terrorists who claim that their religion is Muslim. Personally, I believe that the religion of every terrorist is terrorism. Terrorists in a Muslim land would naturally claim to be motivated by Islam. Terrorists in a Christian land would claim to be motivated by the Bible. The words of people who advocate violence should not be believed.
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No, i am saying that i cannot classify what they are doing into Jihad or anything if i don't understand their problems. Its like someone being judgmental about another person without knowing what they have really been through.
Just a question then, how would you classify as being violent? Would people carrying out terrorism only be doing the wrong thing or is wars carried out by super powers with military strength the ones that are justified in what they do? Who really knows the truth behind the reasons made to fight against people?
I certainly don't acknowledge that any sort of physical fighting is good, but at the same time i wouldn't want a person to be helpless in a situation when they are being attacked. We live in a harsh world and i know this as a reality to have to live with everyday living in South Africa. People are sometimes killed just because they drive nice cars or are ladies who cannot walk alone or even just being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Violence would not stop irrespective of religion, what i am rather trying to get across, is the wrong interpretation of what Jihad is to Muslims and hence media mostly use it as a medium to lever hate towards Muslims.Apr 5 2013: Violence can occur regardless of the culture surrounding it. Violence is the most expedient way a frustrated person will try to end their frustration. When a person gives up on peaceful and respectful means to solve an issue they simply want to eliminate the percieved source of their frustration. No matter who you are, what you believe, or where you are from, this is a failure to find a true solution to a conflict. Though while retaliation is also wrong, self defense should never be considered as anything other than the natural reaction to violence.
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
Isaac Asimov
Apr 5 2013: That's a good explanation on violence Chris. Resolution by peaceful means makes the most sense in this day and age where we also appreciate how valuable yet fragile a human life is.Apr 4 2013: Jihad is a holy war meant to propagate Islam by force; and the victims of this war or the opponents are those who do not believe in Allah as sovereign and Mohammed as his prophet.
I dont think any war has anything to do with peace.
Not even a holy war.
Apr 4 2013: You are indeed correct. a physical conflict between people is not a way to create peace. Though, my point is that Jihad for which Islam was founded on was based on wars and battles which had their reasons and rulings, as i mentioned previously.
However the Jihad in Islamic terms is wider than just a physical conflict!
According to Islamic Law, Islam is not to be forced onto anyone. So you point about Jihad being a war to propagate Islam is a wrong perception and not the reality of things. If you believe otherwise, please share with me your sources at least and we can discuss further.Apr 4 2013: Also note that Jihad also has a side to it which is for Muslims to "fight" with the things in life we see as evil and detrimental. Things such as drinking of alcohol, taking on intoxicants, drugs, fighting with people, treating people with disrespect and many more.
Taken out of the context of Jihad, we find that we all want to combat similar such things in life to lead a healthy and beneficial life. This is the same desired outcome of what Muslims refer to as being part of Islamic Jihad.Apr 4 2013: In the Qur'an, the conditions for conducting a Jihad war was to defend and establish the Islamic state and war in a place where there was an aggressive opponent. This was done in many battles which ranged from groups as small as two people to a war with people that numbered to around 12000 in the finals years of the life of the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him).
The reasons for these battles was not to spread evil and discourse throughout the world. The reason for these battles varied from the rights of women to the protection of the laws that govern a way for people to live. The idea that the reason for taking part in Jihad was "for the sake of Allah" as referred to above.
"Contrary to the common belief that is embodied in the misinterpretation of "jihad" as "holy war," Islamic jihad does not refer solely to fighting in the way of Allah. This, in fact, is a special case of jihad. The Qur'anic concept of jihad refers to exerting efforts, in the form of struggle against or resistance to something, for the sake of Allah. This effort can be fighting back armed aggression, but can also be resisting evil drives and desires in one's self."
From the above paragraph (extracted from the same website referred to above) we can see that Jihad does not mean fighting and causing discord in the world as we know it.Apr 4 2013: To truly understand a concept you need to know from where it is derived. It is the same for most things that we deal with. Jihad is no exception to this since it indeed has a history behind I feel that many people do not know this to be able to appreciate it.
Sadly, in the modern world as we know it and the way we are exposed to the concept of Jihad, is through Muslims who are making waves on the international scene. Whether it is a minority, or a majority of people who have this misconception, the understanding will never really be appreciated.
Let me begin with the meaning of the word "Jihad". Please see the link:
From the attached site in summary, Jihad is an Arabic word which can be taken literally as "exerting the best efforts".
The origin of the concept of "Jihad" in Islam came about at a point in history where the Prophet Mohammed (may peace be upon him) had declared his prophet-hood (his age of 40) and made Hijra (moved away from Mecca to Medina). When he went to the city of Medina, he set out to accomplish the first Islamic state in the world. To start this state, the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) had a few goals in mind. Part of the goals of any successful government as we know is for defense, and being no exception to this, the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) made an effort to build up an army for this Islamic state. The intention of this army was to be as a defense to Islam.
Armies, now and then were always aligned with taxes and high costs. These were things the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) did not have, though it was revealed to him in the Qur'an that the Islamic army should operate under Islamic Jihad, "fi sabili Allah", which means "in the way of Allah" or "for the sake of Allah". The people who formed part of this Army was the followers and companions in Islam to the Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him).Apr 4 2013: I am willing to hear your case and respect your opinion.
Apr 4 2013: I appreciate your effort to listen and respect my opinion. Its means a lot to me as well as your opinion on the matter as well.Apr 3 2013: Unless I'm terribly mistaken, Jihad is a war of intolerance against everyone that does not share the views of those making war.
Apr 4 2013: Perceptions are what some people use to base their views. These perception don't really display the true meaning of things and usually are distorted and take away bits of information which suit their means.
In my opinion, i feel that you are indeed mistaken, since to comprehend what Jihad is and how is relates to Islam is important to understand this. It is quite sad to realize that quite a few people, even some Muslims have a misunderstanding of this and its meaning in Islam. I shall explain more above. Please read what i say with an objective mind and logically make your own conclusions. Thanks


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A farmer uncle of mine had a photographer stop by who had a proof print of his farm house taken in beautiful light. He bought a print of it. I assume the photographer went around the countryside and took photos of all (most) houses in an area, went home to develop the proofs, and returned with them.
Similar approach would be even easier these days with film by showing the shots right after shooting on a laptop, tablet, or one of those portable printers. Hell, I bet you could fit a wide-format printer in a van to further expedite sales. Just show a full-size print from another nearby house and say "look how beautiful Mr Shannon's house looks like, but I got yours in even better light!"
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Re: Anyone making a living with landscapes?
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June 22, 2011, 08:14:56 PM »
Quote from: feppe on June 22, 2011, 05:05:59 PM
I assume the photographer went around the countryside and took photos of all (most) houses in an area
This scene is in my neighborhood. I took it just because I could and the light and colors were nice.
Houses and cars are normally the Kiss of Landscape Death. However, I have sold at least many, many copies of this image to people who live in the houses you can see, or who live near the park, or who like me just pass by it every day, or who just find the image appealing. It also shows an iconic local landscape feature which doesn't hurt a bit. Food for thought, people like their parks.
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June 23, 2011, 08:15:32 AM »
Actually, it's fairly new to me as far as participating in a studio tour - but you've described my thinking down to a 'T'! It's nice to hear that my ideas have potential.
Oh... and we roll up the sidewalks at 6:00pm (I usually close between 4:30 and 5:00) so there's not much opportunity in Elmvale, Ontario for an evening 'art crawl'
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Re: Anyone making a living with landscapes?
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June 25, 2011, 07:55:31 AM »
Hi Mike:
I agree with everything that has been posted here, especially the emphasis on local scenes. I too live in a rural area (not far from you really) and I have limited experience with print sales, but I have been part of an open studio tour for a few years and it has worked well. It is certainly less work than an art show and brings people who are sincerely interested in purchasing art, which is not always true at an art show. This year I added note cards and small unframed prints (basically my proofs) which are inexpensive and sold very well as impulse purchases. Selling large framed prints is nice, but many people are reluctant to spend that much.
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June 25, 2011, 08:44:36 AM »
i like the idea of note cards and small prints. You really should have a product in many price ranges, I think.
Hmmm... when selling note cards... is it considered bad taste to use a Limited Edition image on the card?
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Re: Anyone making a living with landscapes?
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June 25, 2011, 12:39:13 PM »
Quote from: Mike Guilbault on June 25, 2011, 08:44:36 AM
Hmmm... when selling note cards... is it considered bad taste to use a Limited Edition image on the card?
You really need to ask?
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June 25, 2011, 02:55:41 PM »
Afraid I do.... never done 'em before.
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June 25, 2011, 07:06:16 PM »
Quote from: Mike Guilbault on June 25, 2011, 08:44:36 AM
Hmmm... when selling note cards... is it considered bad taste to use a Limited Edition image on the card?
That depends entirely on the manner in which you treat Limited Edition and define it...
If you are defining a Limited Edition as a hard count of the total number of reproductions of a specific image, then yes...
If you are defining a Limited Edition as a hard count of a specific print size and print run at that size, then no.
Limited Edition as a term is a slippery slope. It came from stone lithography where an artist would make a stone, print off some artist proofs to condition the stone and proof the printed image, once the artist decided that the stone was good, he would start printing and numbering them. At some point (not always the same point due to image detail) the stone would wear outfail to produce the detail of the early numbered prints. At that point the printer literally broke the stone to assure no additional prints could be made.
So it was given that the earlier numbered prints were worth more because they better reflected the artists work while later numbered prints would be less good.
Limited Edition prints with photography is an artificial limitation made on the part of the photographer/print maker (and encourage by gallery owners and dealers) to give the illusion of scarcity. As we all know now, digital print number 1 can look just as good as digital print number 1,000,000,000. In fact the odds are as printing tech improves, later prints could look better due to improved printer technology in the hands of the printer.
So, you really need to determine what your definition of Limited Edition actually means and be willing to stick with it, essentially forever (or else you do a disservice to everybody who has bought your prints in the past).
Personally, I avoid ever using the term Limited Edition because, well, it really isn't...a digital original can always be reproduced over and over forever...
BTW, I did stone lithos in the day (a long, long time ago) and really got into the stone breaking ceremony...kinda like the story of Weston deciding he wanted to ensure nobody could make prints from his negs once he did a print run and took a pair of scissors to the negative to destroy them as proof positive nobody could ever make additional prints. Are you man enough to do something like that? Cool...otherwise, doing limited editions is really pretty silly (IMHO).
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June 25, 2011, 08:03:26 PM »
Just saw an exhibition of
Catherine Nelson's
highly manipulated landscape images.
1x1m face mounted prints AU$4900, 1.5x1.5m face mounted prints AU$6900. The exhibition has sold around 30 prints mostly 1.5x1.5m which I guess is approximately AU$180 000 worth of sales. I don't know how much time and effort went into creating the images so I can't comment on whether she is making a good living from it. Obviously the gallery would be making a very good profit from her work. The framers would be too, the face mounted prints look stunning and obviously were quite expensive to get done.
She has worked on films such as Moulin Rouge, Harry Potter, 300 and Australia, and is obviously very talented. Good luck to her.
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June 25, 2011, 10:48:47 PM »
Be careful of those notecards and small prints. Yes, they sell easily. But they usually give a rather poor return on time invested. I think most artists seriously underestimate the time they put in on those things.
And even worse, within the same venue they can both compete with and implicitly devalue high end framed versions of the same images. Suppose you sell a framed piece for $500, and smaller matted prints for $50. You need to sell 10 prints to equal one framed sale. I think that usually at least one of those ten sales would be to somebody who might have bought the more expensive piece, but chose to buy the print to sort of defuse their acquisitive urgings. You lose. Or a potential high end client sees many cheap copies of an image floating about. Lose again.
Just a theory, I but did notice that when I stopped selling cards and prints at art fairs, my sales of larger pieces went way up. And getting view-blocking, space-sapping clumps of rummaging bodies out of one's booth has other advantages. It's really just a bad idea to look too much like the Dollar Store. Have also noticed that photographers who sell $20 matted 8x10's spend a lot of time with lowball clients that they should really be directing at potential high end buyers.
The balance would depend on venue, of course. But IMHO the strange love affair between many artists and cheap cards and prints is counterproductive in most cases. I think it often traces back to a basic lack of confidence. Spend the time making a product with a better return on time.
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June 25, 2011, 11:22:31 PM »
Excellent points Jeff. My first instinct was to use limited editions, but after reading many posts here, mostly decided not to. I was just going to number the prints as they were made and sold. I figured that starting this business at age 54 will limit the editions enough!
Then I took one of my images to a frame shop a few days ago to get a custom mat cut and they requested a copy of it for their gallery. They were quite convincing that LE was the 'only' way to go. Now this is someone that normally, I believe, sells mostly LE prints from painters and such, but I don't know how many photographic images they've sold. Still, they were quite convincing.
However, reading
Brooks Jensen's articles
were also pretty convincing and I think better suites my philosophy. I have labeled one of my images as a LE so I guess I'll have to live with it. I hate bookkeeping though and keeping up with editions sounds like an audit and more trouble than it's worth. I'm already a legend in my own mind, but that's as far as my fame goes. I suppose it's better/easier to start limiting editions with new work when you have the name, if you feel the need. Better at this point to make a sale, eh!
And your take on cards and small prints also makes sense Bill (I can usually relate very well to your answers and opinions). I think if I do make some cards and small prints, they won't be the same as my framed, or even matted, works. I have lots of images that are 'nice', but aren't worthy of serious printing, but would be fine as note cards. I'll be careful not to spend an inordinate amount of time on these.
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July 10, 2011, 03:28:46 PM »
Hi Mike and good luck with this, you don't know unless you try it.
Jeff has as usual, some great points, here are a few of mine if it helps.
I have switched over to fine art and a) am loving it and b) am doing very well, much better than I thought.
Limited editions are nothing new however
Jen Beckman's 20x200
is a more modern idea and does really well. I adopted a similar idea on my work and the nice thing is I sell stuff, large and small.
Also, when you do a 'limited edition' as an artist you get closure, you can move on from that work knowing 'that's it'. It free's the mind to go and create again.
Luckily I live in NYC, in a 'hood full or journalists and writers, film editors and people who are generally 'art aware'. To be honest I sometimes sit outside my front door on Saturdays with a box of 16x20's and so far have never taken less than $500.
I think the fine art market is very much alive, and as more people get inspired by interior design/fix it shows they don't all want either an IKEA poster or an expensive rare photograph, they want something in between. A bit like wine or fashion even, yes there is cheap stuff to take (or wear) at your neighbours sunday grill and their is upmarket wine costing thousands and of course the clothes to match.
Fine art too is like that, there is a ripe market for the discerning client in between those two extremes. Here's why, back in the last days of film, photography was in bad shape as a hobby.. losing out big time to computers and games, then came digital, everyone bought a digital camera, the rest is history... So, more people were taking pics again and this made millions more people aware of just how hard fine art photos can be, a new appreciation for 'the decisive moment' or the 'golden hour' was born.. Hence the shift in the middle for fine art photography.
I also believe taking a shop/store is a mistake, mentally you slow down and expect the store to pull people in... that's passive marketing and pretty negative if you ask me.
After 20 yrs of 'globalization' I think people now want 'localization' meeting local people and building a relationship with them and buying from them, just look at the booming success of etsy.
Hope some of this helps... more later, my son's just woken up..
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September 02, 2011, 03:40:05 PM »
Alain Briot shoots only landscapes and appears to make a good living, although I don't know if that's primarily from image sales.
I photograph also travel and cultural subjects, although a vast portion of my work is landscape. I've been making a living only from image sales. This on-going series of blog posts about my business may be of interest:
A lot of the inspirational articles that you see are there to draw people to websites or photo schools. The reality is that this is a very difficult business, and getting harder by the year.
QT Luong /
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September 05, 2011, 07:41:09 AM »
I thought I would try to market my landscapes thru an Art Licensing agent so several years ago I got signed by Out of the Blue. They have licensed many of my images numerous times-even to companies in Europe but the sales have been dismal.I have been reading on this topic about how print sales are good despite the economy but that hasn`t been my experience at all.
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September 05, 2011, 01:20:50 PM »
Earlier on this topic I mentioned the importance of having smaller prints available to take advantage of shoppers with lower budgets who like your work. I personally don't believe that if someone could afford $500 for a nicely framed photograph they would rather buy a $59 print in a plastic sleeve if it were available.
But there are some other drawbacks. Keep in mind that you do run the risk of copyright infractions. For a time I was doing b/w 11x14 prints for a local artist and giving him a very low price for very nice prints on quality paper for resale. I hadn't gotten an order from him in a while and was shocked to see him at an art show selling smaller prints for $10 each. Turns out he took my print of his work (I had made several small corrections of the original art) and had made, probably at Costco, very cheap lousy-looking photocopies. Sure, he was breaking the copyright law. And sure, I would never deal with him again.
A few months ago I received a call from a guy who was referred to me from a frame shop I often did enlargements for. This customer wanted to know if I could make a large canvas print from a smaller photograph on paper of the Grand Canyon. Sure, I said. From that print size I could possibly go up to 24 x 36 canvas. I asked him if he had taken the picture because I'd prefer to work from his original digital image or film negative. No, he said, he bought the small paper print from a photographer's studio in Sedona but the photographer wanted so much money (actually a fair price) for a larger size on canvas that he decided to see if he could have it enlarged himself to save money. He had no clue he was doing anything wrong. I explained that I couldn't do that because of the copyright laws nor could he do so by finding someone else. I suggested he buy the size he wanted from the artist and that I would probably charge around the same amount for the enlargement. I have no idea if he took my advice.
I also agree, as pointed out by an earlier comment, that there is an inordinate amount of work in producing small prints and note cards. One photographer I know makes custom bookmarks from her images that she resells for $1 ea. I guess it's nice to make a sale, but still....
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September 28, 2011, 07:02:56 PM »
Thank you all for your valuable and interesting contributions to this thread. This is a topic that greatly interests me as I have recently returned to Brisbane after traveling around Australia for almost two years to fill out my portfolio. With a friend, I have just started selling my work at a local lifestyle market with fairly high traffic and many international tourists. It has been a fairly slow start and we've felt the need to reduce prices (partly to compete with another photographer there whose work is modestly priced. All the other stallholders are complaining about this being the slowest trading they've ever seen and we're still making a profit. Just not enough at this stage to support two families. I have another day job which is certainly holding the photography back but which I feel I can't ditch.
Two points I really need to sort out in my mind that have been raised here are selling small, inexpensive prints, and selling local work. I have been shooting medium format plus 5DII and stitching most of my shots to create 1:3 panoramas. The resolution is enough to print very large yet at these markets most of the sales are small prints, postcards, greeting cards and $20 hardcover books that have been published by an established publishing house. We do sell quite a few modest canvases, too. As an artist with an artist's ego I believe the work is as good as anything in the country (for my style of landscape shooting) and would love to sell the work at comparable prices to the established photographers, but this may not be the venue. We have contemplated renting space for a really nice gallery but are nervous about taking on the costs in this economic climate (which seems to be finally catching up with us in Australia).
As for shooting locally, I do have a relatively small but nice collection of local work, but I'm now feeling the need to get many more shots from the region. Having said this, we're selling more landscapes from right around the country than just the local region. Maybe just the venue, though.
Anyway, thanks again for all your collective wisdom. I hope we can keep this thread alive.
Best regards,
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September 28, 2011, 07:42:28 PM »
Food for thought:
1. As opposed to competing with another nearby vendor on price, it
be more profitable to compete with quality or service, than cut margins and/or risk a price war.
2. Selling inexpensive [product] means high volume, which likely means high workload in manufacturing, selling and after-sales. You should always put value on your own time, and many small businesses underestimate the value of their time - especially since you have two jobs. Alain Briot in his latest book about marketing fine art photography goes to great lengths to explain why high volume doesn't make sense for individuals selling photography products, and I fully agree with him. There might be niches where it becomes profitable, though.
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September 28, 2011, 07:48:14 PM »
feppe is right on. I'd forget about worrying about what another photographer is charging -- if you think your work is superior to his. Customers can tell the difference. You could always have smaller size work at his price points.
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October 03, 2011, 05:45:13 PM »
Jumping into this thread kind of late, but I wanted to add my two cents.
I like to accumulate greath photographer websites in my browser bookmarks, and two photographers come to mind that I do believe are making a go at this full time, and especially not just in their local markets.
One is this guy names Peter Lik.
He makes himself sound a little more important than he is in my opinion, but you can't knock him for his amazing ability to sell and market. Considering that he has at least 10 galleries, I'd say he's doing quite well.
Here is another website that I image has quite a few sales, but really, who knows! He looks like he is from Quebec, but travels quite a bit in North America it looks like.
Any thoughts?
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This local guy once shot strictly landscapes.
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bell peppers, any color
1 pound
ground beef
4 slices
whole wheat bread, cubed
1 small
onion, chopped
1 small
tomato, diced
2 cloves
garlic, minced
1/2 cup
chili sauce
1/4 cup
prepared yellow mustard
3 tablespoons
Worcestershire sauce
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Can I rate my own recipe? Well, I'll speak for my family, they give it 5 stars. This is one of our favorite things to make this time of year as well as the rest of the year. It's delicious and I forgot to add that after they're done cooking I like to top them off with Ketchup right before serving. Yum! And they freeze good too if you want to make some ahead of time to stock the freezer.
I actually have to say that I did not like this recipe. I am a competent cook and I followed the instructions exactly, except for one thing: I didn't cut out the jackolantern faces. I've made other stuffed bell pepper recipes before and they always turned out fine, so I didn't think that cutting out the faces served any functional purpose, merely decorative. However, in retrospect, I may have been mistaken- this was very, very juicy, and before I served the peppers, I actually grabbed them with tongs and tipped them over to drain out all the excess fluids from the ground beef. That being said, I think if I had cut the faces (or at least cut tiny vents), it may have drained on its own... but either way, that was not my issue with this recipe. I think that, as written, it contains too much mustard! I used exactly the amount specified and it overpowered everything else... it tasted just like mustard ground beef, no other flavors. If I made it again, I would reduce the mustard to 2 tbs, 3 max, and also I would saute the onions with the garlic before adding them... otherwise they are still crunchy and spicy after cooking for an hour. Finally, I think I would nix the bread cubes and add a cup of italian bread crumbs instead, and perhaps some freshly chopped parsley. The recipe was lacking flavor or spice- all it tasted like was mustard. One thing I do have to say though is that the cook time and temperature were spot on- it was perfectly done. Just my input.
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I left out the chili sauce/tomato and added a can of RoTel tomatoes. Used 1 1/2 cups regular cook oatmeal.
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What a FAB presentation -- my 12 yr old daughter flipped out over this cleaver idea. I substituted rice for the the bread as I always think bread kind of zaps the flavor from meatloaf and other dishes like this, but otherwise it was wonderful. I've never seen my family gobble up stuffed peppers like they did these!
These were good...and creative! The bread was a bit soggy - I probably won't add it next time.
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During your final morning on the Yangtze, tour the immense Three Gorges Dam Project, one of the largest feats of modern engineering in the world. Continue to Yichang, where you'll disembark and fly to Shanghai, China's dazzling commercial capital. (B,L)
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Day 19 — Depart for the U.S.
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BLOOMINGTON - The Herndon family has produced their share of athletes, especially in track and field. Bloomington's Ezekiel Herndon is the latest in that long line. His father Ruben and uncle Jerry both attended and competed on the track at UCLA. His mother Lavetta was an accomplished sprinter in high school. Ezekiel's brother Jamal, played football at Northern Iowa. For those who follow the sport, you may recall that it was Jerry Herndon who won the Pac-10 championship in the long jump. Herndon's freshman leap was 26'4" far better than the eventual olympic champion, in 1974.
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A standout student, Ezekiel has dedicated himself to the classroom as well. He has recently raised his GPA to 3.8. He plans to major in Mass Communications at South Dakota and is very anxious to get on with that next phase of his life. Herndon competed in his specialty sprint races last Saturday at the CIF Southern Section Prelims, at Trabuco Hills. At this point, he plans to continue to train and compete in Track & Field at South Dakota State.
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