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Tours & Packages
- Cultural exploration
- Ecotourism / Green travel
- Golf
- Learning activities
- Medical tourism
- Meditation
- Outdoor & Adventure Activities - Air activities
- Outdoor & Adventure Activities - Land activities
- Outdoor & Adventure Activities - Water activities
- »Beach
- »Fishing
- »Fresh Water Kayaking & Canoeing
- »Jet Ski & Water Ski
- »Parasailing
- »Scuba Diving
- »Sea Kayaking & Canoeing
- »Snorkeling
- »Wake boarding
- »White Water Rafting
- »Windsurfing & Kite Surfing
- Sailing and Cruises
- Self drive
- Shopping
- Spa and Wellness
- Weddings & Honeymoons
City, Wild Life & Beach
Tour Overview :
Thailand tourism page for 21 days trip : Visit top highlight of Thailand in light and easy trip. Take it easy in Bangkok with of optional tour for you to choose. Stay overnight in raft house in the middle of jungle and visit beautiful waterfall and swim along the fish. Trekking to visit and stay overnight at hill tribe village. Head to the south and leave on tree house and raft house in Koh Sok with dense tropical forest trekking and relax on beach in Samui and Koh Toa.
Note : You can adjust this holiday Thailand program or change hotel the way you like.
Highlight :
Adventure trip to Erawan Water Fal in Khanchanburi. Take a local train up to Chianh Mai. Do the trekking to visit hill tribes. Enjoy elephant riding. Fly back to Bangkok, connect a train to Surat Thani. Spend s fantastic time at Khao Sok National Park on a raft house. Continue to Koh Samui and Koha Tao
Departure Date :
All year round
Tour Inclusion :
- Accommodate in hotel as listed or equivalence based on twin sharing.
- Airport transfer.
- Domestic flight by low cost airline (chiang mai - Bangkok // Samuii - Bangkok )
- Train sleeping class with A/C (ayutthaya - Chiang mai // bangkok - Surathani)
- Meals as indicated on the itinerary (B=Breakfast, L=Lunch, D=Dinner) .
- Sightseeing as the itinerary including admission fee as stated in Thailand tourism program.
- Trekking trip for 2 days including in Thailand tourim program
- Koa Sok trip 3 days/2 nights
- English speaking local guide during the tours
- Accidnetal insurance
- Government VAT
- Credit card Charge
Tour Exclusion :
- Other meals than those mentioned in the program.
- Personal items & hotel incidental charges.
- Personal drinks at the meal.
- Gratuities to the guide, driver and hotel's porter.
- Visa fee
- Third language speaking guide charge extra 700 Baht/day
- Immigration fee
- Hotel early check in / Late check out
- Overweight luggage
Terms and Conditions :
- Thailand tourism package prices quoted per person are in Thai Baht based on twin share, including a private round trip airport transfer by air-conditioned car or minibus.
- The prices are subjected change due to period of peak season(Dec 20 - Jan 10), long weekend, or festivals.
- prices are subjected chaange due to period of High season of each destination ( Phuket November – April ) Samui (Jan- Apr ,Jul , Aug , Dec )
- Accommodation is included government tax, services charges, and daily breakfast
- Single Supplement will be charged for staying in single room
- Payment: pre-pay by credit card or bank transfer must be made before arrival
- Government VAT
- Credit card Charge
Remark :
- Please note this program adjustable, we can change to more economical hotel and lower cost air fare than program above
- This Thailand Tourism package is request 50 % of total rate for deposit once to secure the booking after all service confirm. The balance payment will be made on arrival.
- See terms and conditions for this Thailand tourism package, click here
- Join Tour – Please note that join tour or coach tour will pick you up at hotel lobby, please be on time and if they pick up late 5 minutes, please call us or our tour operators as reference number on voucher
- Grand Palace – Please do not ware sleeveless shirt, and short pants, breeches, knee breeches, paddle pant
- Temple – It is recommended not to ware tang top and micro or mini pants or skirt to visit temple
- Tiger temple – Please do not ware short, sleeveless shirt and to bright color cloth (i.e Red, orange stocky pink)
Day by Day Itinerary :
Date 1 : Bangkok airport - Bangkok Hotel
Upon arrival in Bangkok 18.00 hrs, meet up with your guide and transfer to the hotel for check-in Accommodation in Bangkok
Date 2 : Bangkok - Bangkok City Tour
Date 3 : Bangkok - Bangkok
Date 4 : Bangkok - Bangkok free day
Date 5 : Bangkok - Kanchanaburi
Date 6 : Kanchanaburi - Kanchababuri
Date 7 : Kanchanaburi - Chiang mai
Date 8 : Chiang mai - Chaing mai
Date 9 : Chiang mai - Chiang mai
- Flight of Gibbon – 2,350 Baht per person (join trip)
- Guide Service for 8 hours at 2000 Baht/trip (for city orientation by local transport such as truck:expense such as admission fee, transport fee and meal by customer) (private trip)
- Biking tour to Vieng kum gam @ 1500 Baht/person ( join trip)
Date 10 : Chiang mai - Chiang mai
Date 11 : Chiang mai - Chiang mai
Date 12 : Chiang mai - Bangkok
- Orient Thai OX8123 12.20-13.30 Bangkok –Don Muang
- Nok Air DD8313 14.10-15.15 Bangkok – DonMuang
- FD3231 08.25-09.40 Chiang Mai- Bangkok suwarnbhumi)
- Pick up clients at Bangkok and sending them to Hualamphong for night train to Surat Thani ( train no 86 or 85 train leave Bangkok around 19.30- Arrive Suratthani 07.06 )
Date 13 : Bangkok - Surathani
Date 14 : Surat thani - Surathtani


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I've worked out what it is:
As you may be able to see from the screenshot, I have a double-width Taskbar (see the chunk of blue below the Start button). Thus RMTM was indeed remembering that its last position was Maximised (res. = 1024 x 768). However it was also (and still is) making an assumption that my Taskbar is single-width. Thus as you can see in the screenshot - the bottom of RMTM is hidden behing the Taskbar and there is headroom at the top -- you can see the other application (foobar) is at the very top of the screen. This is why I couldn't move the window around - as the program believes it is maximised (and in a sense it truly is) it just doesn't look like it; and thus the program is not truly returning to its previous position on last exit. (The Screenshot was taken having closed a Maximised RMTM and then re-opened it --- I should have made that clear).
I hope that explains the problem. Only awkward folk like me (who have double-width taskbars) will experience this problem. Give it a go if you're happy to mess around with your desktop, icons, quicklaunch stuff and you use Win XP.
Hope this clarifies the window position problem -- let me know if I''m still not being clear.
As regards the other stuff.
Cool on both counts (M3U drag and drop, and ID3 v2)
All the best

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Interpretive Handbook
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Thiopurine Methyltransferase (TPMT) Genotyping, Blood
Clinical Information Discusses physiology, pathophysiology, and general clinical aspects, as they relate to a laboratory test
The thiopurine drugs are purine antimetabolites that are useful in the treatment of acute lymphoblastic leukemia, autoimmune disorders (eg, Crohn disease and rheumatoid arthritis), and organ transplant recipients. The thiopurine drugs, 6-mercaptopurine (6-MP), 6-thioguanine (6-TG), and azathioprine (AZA) are prodrugs that require intracellular activation to 6-thioguanine nucleotides (6-TGN). This activation is catalyzed by multiple enzymes. The cytotoxic effects of thiopurine drugs are achieved mainly through incorporation of 6-TGNs into DNA and RNA. The pathway that leads to synthesis of active cytotoxic 6-TGNs is in competition with inactivation pathways catalyzed by thiopurine methyltransferase (TPMT). Evaluation of this pathway is important because the levels of 6-TGNs measured in red blood cells have been correlated with both thiopurine therapeutic efficacy and toxicity such as myelosuppression.
The distribution of TPMT activity in red blood cells is trimodal in Caucasian population, with approximately 0.3% of people having deficient (undetectable) TPMT activity, 11% low (intermediate) activity, and 89% normal TPMT activity. TPMT activity is inherited as a monogenic codominant trait and variable TPMT activity is associated with TPMT genetic variants. TPMT alleles,*3A (*3B and *3C), *3B, *3C, and *2, comprised of a combination of 3 different single nucleotide polymorphisms (c.460G>A, c.719A>G, and c.238G>C), account for the majority of inactivating alleles in some ethnicities, including Caucasians. Patients with genetically very low or absent TPMT activity who are treated with standard doses of these drugs are at risk for the development of life-threatening thiopurine toxicity.
The US Food and Drug Administration, the Clinical Pharmacogenetics Implementation Consortium, and certain professional societies recommend consideration of TPMT genotype or TPMT erythrocyte testing prior to the initiation of therapy with thiopurine drugs. There is substantial evidence linking TPMT genotype to phenotypic variability. Dose adjustments based upon TPMT genotype have reduced thiopurine-induced adverse effects without compromising desired antitumor and immunosuppressive therapeutic effects in several clinical settings. Complementary clinical tests are available to measure TPMT enzymatic activity in erythrocytes. In general, genotyping will find 95% of the changes that impact TPMT activity and it is not impacted by other medications known to inhibit TPMT activity. This testing can be complimented by the TPMT erythrocyte phenotype testing if the clinician wants to check for lower TPMT enzyme activity, regardless of cause.
Useful For Suggests clinical disorders or settings where the test may be helpful
Predicting potential for toxicity to thiopurine drugs (6-mercaptopurine, 6-thioguanine, and azathioprine)
Interpretation Provides information to assist in interpretation of the test results
Based on the genotype, an interpretative comment will be provided for the expected phenotype:
Genotype: TPMT*1/*1:
Genotype Comment: TPMT*2, *3A, *3B and *3C were not detected. This individual is most likely to have a TPMT*1/*1 genotype.
Interpretation: This patient is most likely to have extensive (normal) TPMT activity.
Genotype: TPMT*1/*2, TPMT*1/*3A, TPMT*1/*3B, TPMT*1/*3C:
Genotype Comment: This individual is heterozygous for a deficient or inactive TPMT allele (*N).
Interpretation: This patient is expected to have intermediate TPMT activity. Patients with intermediate TPMT activity can be treated with thiopurine drugs with fewer side effects by reducing the initial dose. Subsequent dose adjustments should be based on the degree of myelosuppression, according to disease-specific guidelines.
Genotype: TPMT*2/*2, TPMT*3A/*3A, TPMT*3B/*3B, TPMT*3C/*3C:
Genotype Comment: This individual is homozygous for a deficient or inactive TPMT allele (*N).
Interpretation: This patient is expected to have poor (deficient) TPMT activity. In nonmalignant disease, treatment with thiopurine drugs is generally contraindicated for patients with poor (deficient) TPMT activity and alternative agents should be considered. For malignant diseases, drastically reduced doses may be used with subsequent dose adjustments based on degree of myelosuppression and according to disease-specific guidelines.
Genotype: TPMT*2/*3A, TPMT*2/*3B, TPMT*2/*3C, TPMT*3A/*3B, TPMT*3A/*3C:
Genotype Comment: This individual is compound heterozygous for deficient or inactive TPMT alleles (*N/*Z).
Interpretation: This patient is expected to have poor (deficient) TPMT activity. In nonmalignant disease, treatment with thiopurine drugs is generally contraindicated for patients with poor (deficient) TPMT activity and alternative agents should be considered. For malignant diseases, drastically reduced doses may be used with subsequent dose adjustments based on degree of myelosuppression and according to disease-specific guidelines.
Cautions Discusses conditions that may cause diagnostic confusion, including improper specimen collection and handling, inappropriate test selection, and interfering substances
Patients who have received a heterologous blood transfusion within the preceding 6 weeks, or who have received an allogeneic blood or marrow transplant, can have inaccurate genetic test results due to presence of donor DNA.
Rare polymorphisms exist that could lead to false-negative or false-positive results. If genotype results obtained do not match the clinical findings, additional testing should be considered (TPMT / Thiopurine Methyltransferase [TPMT], Erythrocytes).
The results do not rule out the possibility that a patient harbors another variation that can impact drug response or drug side effects. These genotyping procedures will not distinguish between heterozygous *3A from the rare *3B/ *3C, which has a frequency of 1:120,890. This rare genotype is associated with low enzyme activity. Enzyme activity evaluation is necessary to definitively identify this rare genotype (TPMT / Thiopurine Methyltransferase [TPMT], Erythrocytes).
This PCR-based assay tests for the presence of TPMT*2 (c.238G>C), TPMT*3A (c.460G>A, c.719A>G), TPMT*3B (c.460G>A), and TPMT*3C (c.719A>G). This test will not detect all TPMT genetic variants. A negative result does not rule out the possibility of toxicity if thiopurines are used, since multiple factors (eg, other genetic factors, drug-drug interactions) are known to play a role. Coprescription of allopurinol might inhibit TPMT activity. Drugs that have been shown to inhibit TPMT activity include: naproxen, ibuprofen, ketoprofen, furosemide, sulfasalazine, mesalamine, olsalazine, mefenamic acid, thiazide diuretics, and benzoic acid inhibitors.
Reference Values Describes reference intervals and additional information for interpretation of test results. May include intervals based on age and sex when appropriate. Intervals are Mayo-derived, unless otherwise designated. If an interpretive report is provided, the reference value field will state this.
An interpretive report is provided.
Clinical References Provides recommendations for further in-depth reading of a clinical nature
1. Appell ML, Berg J, Duley J, et al: Nomenclature for alleles of the thiopurine methyltransferase gene. Pharmacogenet Genomics 2013;23(4):242-248
2. Nguyen CM, Mendes MA, Ma JD: Thiopurine methyltransferase (TPMT) genotyping to predict myelosuppression risk. PLoS Curr 2011;3:RRN1236
3. Relling MV, Gardner EE, Sandborn WJ, et al: Clinical Pharmacogenetics Implementation Consortium guidelines for thiopurine methyltransferase genotype and thiopurine dosing. Clin Pharmacol Ther 2011;89(3):387-391
4. Weinshilboum R: Thiopurine pharmacogenetics clinical and molecular studies of thiopurine methyltransferase. Drug Metab Dispos 2001 Apr;29(4 Pt 2):601-605
5. Zaza G, Cheok M, Krynetskaia N, et al: Thiopurine pathway. Pharmacogenet Genomics 2010 Sep;20(9):573-574


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KARTHAUS – The 2011 elk hunt opened on Monday, with hunters harvesting 13 elk - five bulls and eight cows. There were a total of 56 elk licenses awarded this year in a drawing held at the Pennsylvania Game Commission's Harrisburg headquarters on the afternoon of Wednesday, Sept. 14. Of those 56 licenses, 18 were for bulls, while 38 were for cows.
Chris Rosenberry, supervisor of the deer and elk section for the PGC, indicated that Monday's harvest was typical for the first day of the season.
Last year, a total of eight elk were harvested on the opening day of the hunt.
"If a tree falls in the forest..." -- Toby Herzing is the guy you'll want to talk to about it.
Herzing has been the recreation forester for the Elk State Forest and a service forester for Elk and Cameron counties for nearly seven years.
As a recreation forester, he works with the management and maintenance staff on recreational activities and projects such as trail maintenance, hiking, biking, horseback riding, snowmobiling, geocaching, hunting and fishing.
"The State Forest provides many recreational opportunities for the forest users," Herzing said.
JOHNSONBURG – Elaine Parana is a Reiki Practitioner. Parana has been practicing Reiki since 2002 but just recently opened her own shop in her home.
She says Reiki is an old Japanese hands-on healing and relaxation treatment.
"Reiki promotes healing in the body, mind and spirit," Parana said. "It is an alternative healing method that enhances regular medical care."
Some people may be skeptical of Reiki, but Parana assures it is essentially a channeling of energy from the universe.
The Elk County Council on the Arts [ECCOTA] in conjunction with the Pennsylvania Council for the Arts [PCA] awarded 15 grants to organizations in Cameron, Clarion, Elk, Forest, Jefferson, McKean and Potter counties.
On Wednesday evening, ECCOTA and the PCA awarded $19,779 in grant funds through the Pennsylvania Partners in the Arts [PPA] program to organizations to support arts activities in the region.
The Ridgway Lions Club is sponsoring the Halloween parade set for this Saturday, Oct. 29.
The parade is an annual event. Tracey Amacher, member of the Lions Club said the parade has been ongoing since before she can remember.
"I can't remember exactly how long it's been going on," Amacher said. "But my children are grown and they remember it."
Lineup for those entering in the parade begins at 2:30 p.m. at the Courthouse Annex. The parade will begin shortly after at 3 p.m. The Ridgway High School band will be providing a mixture of music as they will lead the parade.
Johnsonburg has many Halloween festivities in the itinerary for the upcoming weekend. On Saturday, October 29, the annual Halloween parade is scheduled to begin at 5 p.m. Registration for those entering in the parade begins at 3:30 p.m. and runs till 4 p.m. Those in the parade are beginning lineup at 4:30 p.m. in the Cherry Square Mall parking lot. The parade will travel down Market Street and end at the Johnsonburg Community Center where judging of the costumes will take place.
KERSEY – North Central Pennsylvania Regional Planning and Development Commission [NCPRPDC] officials called to mind highlights of fiscal year 2010 Wednesday during their executive committee meeting and annual dinner at The Red Fern in Kersey.
The Ridgway-Elk County Chamber of Commerce invites all to join them for the 55th Annual Membership Banquet on Saturday, Nov. 5 at Aiello's Cafe in Ridgway.
The fundraising committee of the Ridgway-Elk County Chamber of Commerce held a meeting Monday night to fine tune preparations for the big event.
The focus of this year's autumn-themed dinner is to recognize the 16 new members to the Chamber.
"This year we are focusing on recognizing our members and to give a little extra recognition to our new members who have joined since 2011," said administrative assistant Mary Kucenski.
According to Elk County Recycling/Solid Waste Coordinator Bekki Titchner, close to 200 tons of material have likely come through the Community Recycling Center over the course of the past year. Not only is the county's recycling program thriving, but the program's budget is also no longer in the dire straits it was a year ago.
"We are no longer bleeding red, which is incredible," Titchner said.
The owner of the pitbull found shot last week in the Lake City area said the dog was "family" to him and he shot it because it was attacking his fiancee and would not respond to his commands to stop.
Jeremiah Wickett, 35, of Lake City, said he had raised the dog, Ganja, a six-year-old half-pit bull, half-bull mastiff, from a puppy. He said he and his fiancee, Michelle Oertly, 34, also of Lake City, were standing on their front porch on the afternoon of Tuesday, Oct. 18 engaged in a play "wrestling" match when the dog attacked Oertly, latching on to her left leg.


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The wealthy activist behind Proposition 38 says her campaign is taking down its television ad that sought to portray Gov. Jerry Brown's Proposition 30 as a bad choice for voters interested in protecting K-12 education.
"The ad that's been controversial is not going to be on the air, beginning tomorrow," said Molly Munger in an exclusive News10 interview Monday morning.
The Prop 38 campaign has, instead, chosen to return to what a message only focused on their initiative, arguing thatthe measure's income tax increase will mean a "world class education" for California students.
The new Prop 38 ad:
The decision to pull down what Munger calls the "comparison" ad comes after a week of bitter political fighting with supporters ofthe governor's Prop 30, which also relies (in part) on an income tax hike and which cannot take effect if both measures should pass, but Prop 38 gets more votes.
Brown's backers sent letters to both Munger and her main policy supporters, the California Parent Teachers Association (PTA), saying that students would pay the ultimate price if Munger "insist[s] on risking billions of dollars in cuts to schools and universities just to pass your initiative."
Munger said Monday morning that the adcriticalof Prop 30 may have pleased those who favor only her measure, but that it made other Prop 38 supporters uneasy -- namely, those who are urging a 'yes' vote on both initiatives.
"We needed to show respect for both groups of voters that make up our coalition," she said.
But Munger isn't backing away from her personal criticisms of the Prop 30 campaign. The governor and his supporters have focused on what happens if the Prop 30 tax increase doesn't pass: some $6 billion in automatic spending cuts written in to this summer's state budget.
Munger admits that, to date, polls have not shown Prop 38 with even a bare majority support. But she insists that the campaign believes the tax initiative's numbers are headed in the right direction. Even so, she said the tone of last week's ad may not come back before Election Day.
"We have no current plan to return to contrast ads," said Munger.
The wealthy Pasadena activist is not the only child of Charles Munger, Sr., longtime business partner of billionaire Warren Buffett, to spend money in this election cycle. Her brother, Charles Munger, Jr., has donated $22 million to an independent group that's both fighting Brown's Prop 30 and supporting a campaign money initiative, Proposition 32.
Molly Munger has recently said that her brother's money was not being used to defeat the governor's measure. But in the News10 interview, she said her brother told her this weekend that it appears his money is being used to help finance the anti-Prop 30 campaign.
And she predicted a lively family debate when they gather for Thanksgiving this year.
"Charles and I always walk on the beach at Thanksgiving," said Molly Munger. "And I suspect [our talk] will be a lot of, 'What were you thinking? Why did you do that?!'"


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Mount Edith Cavell
September 21, 2012, 03:01:19 PM »
This summer, my friend Jack and I went up the East Ridge of Mount Edith Cavell in Jasper National Park. I found Edith to be big, beautiful, and intimidating. When scouting the North Face on the first day, we watched two large avalanches sweep the face. The ridge seemed like a more reasonable place to be considering how warm it was.
My goal with these photos is to show this famous mountain from a less common point of view. I want to convey a little bit of the size and exposure you feel when on the mountain itself.
These were taken with a Canon 20D with a 17-40 F4L.
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 21, 2012, 07:07:03 PM »
Great shots man! Awesome to see some shots that are from some different perspectives. What an incredible climb. We also saw a fair bit of avalanche activity around the rockies when we visited this summer.. you got balls son!
Tony Jay
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 21, 2012, 07:23:19 PM »
Great images.
Even better when one knows the story behind them.
Image #2 is my favourite.
Is that a glacier terminating at the mouth of a hanging valley below the climber?
Tony Jay
Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 07:25:16 PM by Tony Jay
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 21, 2012, 07:55:21 PM »
Number 2 is my favorite too. I had to sprint ahead of Jack to a little ledge off to the side to get that photo. I think it was worth it.
The glacier you see below him is the Angel Glacier. The first photo shows the terminus of that icefall. You can also see the road leading to the parking lot about a vertical kilometer below.
I attached a snapshot of the smaller avalanche. The super-classic Beckey/Chouinard/Doody route on the North Face skirts the right side of the icefall to the top of the Angel Glacier, and then goes right up the line of falling snow and ice. Maybe next time we'll have better conditions.
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 21, 2012, 08:02:08 PM »
As an aside, I'm very glad Jack replaced his older olive-drab jacket with this one. I bet he's glad he didn't pay the whole $600 MSRP!
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 22, 2012, 04:32:24 PM »
# 2 great climbing shot, gives me for one a strong sense of being....cracking shot well done.
Canon 5D mk II Sigma 10-20, Canon 17-40mm L, Canon 24-105mm L, Canon 70-200 L, Lee Filters, Manfrotto geared head/tripod.
''Twelve significant photographs in any one year is a good crop''. Ansel Adams
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 23, 2012, 11:33:02 AM »
The second photo for me too. It's has all the ingredients for a very nice image, it's not only a climbing photo. The climber gives a good sense of scale.
Patricia Sheley
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 25, 2012, 02:36:48 AM »
Quote from: francois on September 23, 2012, 11:33:02 AM
The second photo for me too. It's has all the ingredients for a very nice image, it's not only a climbing photo. The climber gives a good sense of scale.
...and telegraphed "zoned contemplation"... easy to sit back and enjoy this one...can hear the wind sounds below....
A common woman...
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 25, 2012, 01:53:48 PM »
Patricia's comment about "zoned contemplation" got me thinking about the nature of photography in the sense that we often strive to produce a story or emotion that is encapsulated by an image whether or not that story or emotion really existed at the time of making the capture. A fairly recent example in the critique forum elicited all sorts of emotional interpretations that didn't at all reflect the conditions under which the image was made. Product photographers, cinematographers and street photographers do this all the time. Not a knock on Phillip's climbing photo at all, but as a former climber I know that it is pretty easy to take what we used to call "exposure shots" that by their framing give the illusion of a lot more vertical exposure than actually exists. By exposure I'm not talking about light but rather exposure to a vertical fall off of the face. I certainly don't know, but their are some hints that this may be an "exposure shot". The climber doesn't seem to be on a rope nor hauling much in the way of climbing gear. Anyway that's not the point and the images are great. The point is that we deal in illusions with essentially all forms of photography (except perhaps strict documentary photography and I will only give that a perhaps). So where Patricia sees "zoned contemplation", I see an enjoyable day on the rock and a photo made while taking a break from serious climbing. No value judgement at all simply pointing out the difference.
Phillip - please take this as a commentary on photography and not a slight on your images. Cheers.
Chuck Hurich
Patricia Sheley
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Re: Mount Edith Cavell
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September 25, 2012, 07:12:03 PM »
Yes, I do see what you are experiencing, and understand the reaction. Prose/poetry is that way too, or at least as one moves further into old age. Other than the immediate enjoyment I was taken as I lingered there to the space with no obediant names just in front of his eyes and into the space where nothing needs to be called anything...it just is...From my lingering there I felt again the experience of my back pressed up against a depression on rock face, where at the end of the day it seemed to be the only place on the earth that still carried some lingering warmth. I pressed my hands there while in "zoned contemplation" the day washed over me as if no other place existed. I hadn't remembered that early evening in late fall with cold northern waters below me and light disappearing quickly around me, as I paused before working my way back to the exit trail. That is what photography more and more often elicits from me. Memories, organic essences. As I considered your words there is no cold wind around me, but the question of where and when those feelings enrich my life brought others. The experience of finding myself at the near summit of Mt Mitchell in NC suddenly completely and overwhemingly disoriented by ashift in the fog bank. The same experience summitting Mt Washington by motorcycle and have an almost identical experience, not certain even hhow to get my feet to the ground. Not memories that have visited me for a long while, but welcoming the spaces this particular image placed in my reach to experience them once again and even as I type have my eyes defeat my attempt not to be sentimental in trying to explain this feeling of everything just being itself..., for me, zoned contemplation.
The phenomena of our lives penetrate us in many ways, but inevitably we arrive back at ourselves, changed, by what we saw, and how we see. It is in the spaces in between where the significance and transformations flow...In my aging I recognize myself disappearing, but oh the freedom of those spaces...
I had no need to question the how, I simply enjoyed the presences.
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I think you do have a point, Churly. Photos rarely match the emotion that was taking place during the capture. Maybe there should be a continuum that is perfect documentation on one end and "visual poetry" on the other.
This particular climb was an interesting one: our first technical alpine climb in the Canadian Rockies. The guidebook rating is III 5.3, 1400m; pretty easy technically. We were just coming off of a successful ascent of the Evolution Traverse (VI 5.9 15,000' total gain) and we were feeling confident. We carried a 30m rope and light rack, but chose to solo for the sake of speed. I don't like messing around with afternoon thunderstorms.
My partner was feeling a little sick that day, and that slowed us down. This photo was taken at the rock "crux"; I was encouraging Jack to keep up the pace, and he was carefully navigating some scary loose quartzite. It's actually pretty exposed here, which is the reason I stopped for a few photos. Below him is just more ridge, but the face on his right is a the vertical kilometer drop of the incredible North Face. It's a real treat to get exposure like that on a route as easy as this one. I'm pretty sure the emotion Jack was feeling was more fatigue than anything. He's normally unstoppable, but that day was messing with his body.
Above that section was some more rock, then steep corniced snow. The real surprise sting at the end was a hundred meters or so of mixed alpine ice and snow. We didn't expect that late July on what is normally a pure rock climb. I had a mountain axe and Jack was wearing aluminum crampons. At least I had good crampons and Jack had a technical tool. I now have even more respect for the climbing pioneers who first climbed the great ice faces with such primitive equipment!
I hope this gives a little more context to this image. I have to say that I do prefer it when photos intended to tell a story are accompanied by captions, or better yet, an article. Having a backstory helps put understanding behind the photo. Without that, I have to treat it as more of "inspired fiction". Fiction is not a bad thing; it can poignantly convey truths and emotions. I just think that it should be separate from non-fiction.
Thank you everyone for your comments. They've given me lots to think about.
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Park's BBQ is a great choice, on of my favorites in LA. You must try the short ribs.
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Friday, October 25, 2002Winston-Salem, N.C. (October 25, 2002) - ETSU freshman Sylwia Ziolkowska (Warsaw, Poland) fell 4-6, 6-7 to N.C. State senior Myrna Bawono Friday morning at the Omni Hotels/ITA Southeast Regional hosted by Wake Forest. Ziolkowska started out the first set dropping her first three games. After battling back she was unable to take the lead and Bawono won the first set, 6-4. In the second Ziolkowska led from the first game until a service break by Bawono at 5-4. The game went into a second set tiebreak that was won by Bawono 7-4 to win the set and the match. "Sylwia played a senior who is at the top of N.C. State's lineup that has beaten some nationally ranked opponents," said ETSU head coach Steve Brooks. " I saw some things that we can work on, but the service break at the end of both sets cost us the match." The winning doubles team, winning singles player and the singles finalist qualify for the Omni Hotels/ITA National Indoor Championships in Dallas, Texas, Nov. 7-10. The tournament is the nation's premier collegiate indoor tennis tournament. The Buccaneers will close out their fall season on Nov. 1-3 as they travel to Spartanburg, S.C. to participate in the Wofford Women's Tournament.
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- Ulf Mattsson
- Old Greenwich, CT
- United States
This conversation is closed.
Beyond encryption for Big Data. Encryption is no longer secure. What is the the new way to protect data?
Big Data is very powerful. Analysis of massive amounts of data provides companies the power to identify trends and improve business. Big data is scalable and has superior performance. However companies are now faced with the obstacle of compliance and security regulations that had not been considered before. In addition, the data environment used today must adapt to the ever-changing data security landscape in the future. Now is the time to bridge the gap between security regulations, privacy and compliance, yet still be able to provide powerful analysis and data insight to achieve the power behind a big data environment.
Nov 6 2013: Slow down their cowboy, where is "encryption is no longer secure" coming from? You mean encrypted databases are difficult to use in conjunction with big data analysis? Or did I miss something big about encryption?Oct 18 2013: Backup has always been the best form of protection and the best way to keep a secret is to not tell anyone.Nov 8 2013: Is the goal here to keep the customer's personal information safe for their own sake, or to protect the data as the company's property, for the company's sake?
If it's the former, I don't believe users of services can truly be safe unless they're safe from their service provider. Encrypt the data client side and make it impossible for even a sysadmin to view it.
Otherwise I believe there's a conflict of interest. The data needs to be collected and made accessable for the danger to exist at all. If that's the business model, then any balance between security and accessability is a compromise.Nov 6 2013: that topic would be interesting, was it met two criteria: having an opening statement/question that makes actual sense, and not being an obvious self promotion.Nov 2 2013: I agree that "there never was any secure data, as long as you didn't make up your own encryption software and constantly updated it", but data tokenization may change the game.
Ulf Mattsson, CTO ProtegrityNov 2 2013: The good news is that some leading companies are finding new ways to bridge the gap between security regulations, privacy and compliance, yet still be able to provide powerful analysis and data insight to achieve the power behind a big data environment.
I recently read an interesting study from Aberdeen Group about security-related incidents. The study revealed that "Over the last 12 months, tokenization users had 50% fewer security-related incidents(e.g., unauthorized access, data loss or data exposure than tokenization non-users". The name of the study is "Tokenization Gets Traction". Aberdeen has also seen "a steady increase in enterprise use of tokenization as an alternative to encryption for protecting sensitive data".
Ulf Mattsson, CTO ProtegrityOct 23 2013: Encapsulating data with a built in self-erasing / self-garbling mechanism after first use or a pre-determined amount of time is a possible way out. The overheads would be high, but then it could be applied selectively to data-sets that are more sensitive.Oct 21 2013: Do not put any of your data on a system that is accessible to the net.
Then the only problem is NSA and other government agencies.Oct 16 2013: Perhaps if the data was only available in a usable state momentarily as it is computed, then reverted to an unusable state, again within milliseconds, In a fluid manner, and each request would be encrypted from billions of combinations, each request being unique,rather than classic static cloud or hard drive storage. For websites, the front user end would be visual frame, but the data behind it would only exist momentarily as the user requested it then reverted to an unusable state again, each time the data encryption would be unique from billions of combinations and only exist for that user momentarily......Sorry just an idea not an encryption expert :)Oct 15 2013: If you had followed the 'Encryption Wars' between government agencies and the hacker community, you could have known, that there never was any secure data, as long as you didn't make up your own encryption software and constantly updated it.
And because big data is powerful, as you said, we should change the laws to avoid its misuse.
I promote the idea of the 'Individual Data Property Right', which ensures any individual to decide who is allowed to collect his/her data and who isn't. This way, behavioral pattern of groups of people can not been analyzed without all group members agreeing with it.
This way, information mining companies, such as Google, wouldn't be allowed anymore to put their tracking-cookies in anyones browser - unasked - to spy on the peoples Internet use. Who are they to spy on their customers?
When people get to see the reason for data collection, they can decide if it makes sense to them or not and give or withdraw their permission. Violation is prosecuted and its penalty jail time only, no fines, as fines would just be another way to pay for those illegal data.
Once that is in place, alongside strong privacy regulations, isolated data pools become a must. No connection to any network, no connection to the Internet., no standard operating system + individual encryption software.
Nov 6 2013: Re: "Who are they to spy on their customers?"
Well, if you want to make money, you need to provide something useful to the customers. And to provide something useful, you need to know what customers need or want. By definition, any business involves collecting information on what people need.
Google is in a position where they can collect way more information on way more people than anybody else. Naturally, they capitalize on this ability and help other companies to identify their customers. I don't see anything outrageous in this behavior - that's what I would expect. In fact, Google helps salesmen to target specific people saving everyone's time and money. That's valuable.
So, although I understand the privacy and security concerns, the question is equivocal. Whether I want someone to collect data on me is a question of ethics and trust rather than technology.
Nov 7 2013: 'Well, if you want to make money, you need to provide something useful to the customers. And to provide something useful, you need to know what customers need or want.'
Isn't Google mainly a search engine? And isn't the information their customer are interested in what the customers are looking for on this search engine? In other words - the customers are already typing in what their interest is about. So what other information than that is needed?
Imagine your local baker would backtrack all the other shops you visited on your shopping tour before you entered his/her shop. What for? To offer you a bread which goes well with a a certain butcher you have visited before? No, this is none of the bakers business what you got elsewhere, this is of your private concern only.
'Naturally, they capitalize on this ability and help other companies to identify their customers. I don't see anything outrageous in this behavior.'
Well, I do, because they make money with information which they just take freely from their customers. Would you accept your medical doctor, your hospital to sell your private information to private corporations, so that they in return can target you as potential customer for, lets say, broken bones?
What I do on the Internet is my personal business only. Whether I watch porn, do some online shopping or write here on TED is private, and no one is allowed to spy on my behavioral pattern without my allowance. Why should anyone be allowed?
If it is valuable to you when Google helps salesmen to target you, saving your time and money, thats absolutely fine with me, yet because you like it doesn't mean that anyone likes it. And by making it necessary to ask for allowance for private data collection both of us are happy. You save your time and money and I keep my privacy. And what can be better than that both of us are fine as well as Google and other salesman?
There is nothing equivocal in privacy! Where did you get this idea from?
Nov 8 2013: If you want a search engine that does not care what you want - just provides search results, use http://duckduckgo.com. I do use them. However, I found that many search that duckduckgo are not what I want. While, as I go to Google, most of the top search results are relevant to what I'm searching, most of the time. It's because they are a lot better at figuring the context and what I might be looking for.
There is a difference between a baker shop where you show up first time and a baker shop where you are a regular customer and the baker knows you personally. He greets you with your name and gives you your favorite bread ready and waiting for you and, in case you forgot your wallet, he would give you credit knowing that you will pay next visit. Imagine walking into a bread shop where the baker knows that you just visited a meat store and bought some burgers. He would already know that you are after burger buns rather than hotdog rolls. What's wrong with that?
Well, of course, you won't want a porn shop owner greet you as a regular customer :-). I don't think it's realistic to prohibit people watching you. If you don't want others to know what you do, then hide - use encryption, locks, vaults, and what not. But, in many cases, the question is, should I be doing things I don't want others to know I'm doing?
I cannot say that all tracking is outrageous and must be prohibited. There are cases when it is. It's an ethical question. It needs discretion.
E.g. I post on TED using my real name. The posts show up on Google. I know that and I try not to say anything here that I might later regret. Many people are uncomfortable with such tracking. I figured that I have to live with it. So, I'd rather adjust my own behavior.
Whats wrong with a baker who already knows what I want without me naming what I want? Well, anything, because the baker has to invade my privacy to gain this knowledge and without my permission to do so, this is an illegal invasion of my private space. It is interesting that you don't seem to realize that.
Imagine you meet a friend in a pub for a good conversation. How would you feel when you find this 'friend' checking your jacket and wallet for random invoices and bills of your latest purchases when you return from the restroom? Would you enjoy this in expectation for a better matching Christmas present from his(her side this year, or would you rather reconsider the general 'friendship' to this person? And this was someone you at least considered a friend and not even a total stranger.
Following your logic, why wouldn't I want my favorite porn shop owner greet me in public as a regular customer? Why should my sexual preferences and interests be part of my privacy? Why not allow also here to be reduced to a transparent consumer? Wouldn't it also save my time and money if he shouts across the street his newest 'specials' which I may be interested in, given my latest purchase history in his books? Isn't sex just a natural thing?
The problem with the argument 'should I be doing things I don't want others to know I'm doing?' is, that it does allow for anything and protects nothing. Why not have governments and corporations install video cameras in our homes? If we have nothing to hide, there is no reason not to want that, right? Wrong!
I assume the laws in your country protect you against physical stalking of people you don't wish to invade your privacy. At least I hope you have this protection. So why should our digital privacy any different from that? Just because its digital? Is that the only difference?Nov 8 2013: I accept your attitude, that is perfectly fine with me, yet my attitude is different and I don't agree on digital transparency just because it has become common practice due to lacks within the legal framework since we entered the informational era.
I know how and do protect my computer as good as possible against information hijacking, yet this knowledge goes way beyond the 'common knowledge' I expect a normal computer user to have, which, in itself, generates many victims which don't even know what is happening to them.
This got to be stopped and transparency reversed, so that any user can freely chose to allow data-mining on his computer or not, which does not hinder service provider to reach their customer, yet protects those who don't wish service provider to sniff in their pockets unasked.
Because why should service provider be doing things they don't want their customers to know they are doing?
And because this argument works both ways, the majority interest has to determine the legal framework and on this, customers are way larger in numbers and therefore their privacy interest outperforms the interest of a view service provider to break into it.
And as privacy is no matter of choice but a right in democratic societies, we should re-claim them in our new digital landscapes as well, at least within the legal boundaries of our democratic nations.
Violations from non democratic nations can of course not be avoided on the Internet, yet it is not likely, that a service provider located in non democratic nations have much use of our customer information anyway, not to mention that those information were illegal in the first place and therefore more than risky to attract interest in our nations.
So no, I like to talk to my baker the old fashion style to tell him what I like to buy from him today, because this is the only foundation on which trust can grow and by which both of us can become friends if we so chose to.
Nov 8 2013: Re: "Because why should service provider be doing things they don't want their customers to know they are doing?"
Exactly. This is an ethical question, as I mentioned. What I said about consumers, definitely, applies to the service providers or government. Ethical questions are tricky. In most cases, not only it's important to consider how the data IS used, but also how it IS INTENDED to be used or how IT CAN or MIGHT be used. I recently watched some corporate training course on ethics. One example was about conflict of interests. In this example, a company official was considering bids from service contractors and accidently learned that one of the contractors is her son's professor who might hire her son for an internship. She is advised to disclose this connection to the corporate legal department although nobody even knows about the connection and she herself just learned about it accidently, and this bid might be the best anyway.
Ethical questions are about feelings, not about facts. Some people are comfortable discussing their sex life on Facebook and posting pictures from their recent colonoscopy, while some are not. Some people have the "leave me alone" attitude, while others feel depressed because nobody pays any attention to them.
It's ironic how people complain that the government does not listen to the citizens and when they find out that they, actually, do, they are outraged.
Not that I disagree with you, I just wanted to point out that this is a controversial issue. I also do not like Facebook attitude towards privacy and do not like the latest change on Google making it impossible to check your email without logging into the Google account that combines everything else including Youtube, Drive, Picasa, Google+, etc. But I don't blame them for doing that. Whether I like it or not, I can't blame cats that they meyow or dogs that they bark or rain that it's wet.Nov 8 2013: 'Ethical questions are about feelings, not about facts'
But what makes you think, that feelings are no facts? Is your favorite color or dish questionable by anyone? Both may change over time, yet this wouldn't change their current validity.
Wherever possible, I prefer wise compromises over stupid and unreflected regulations, yet there are also indisputable morals on which we continuously have to agree on as a society or even as a whole species, out of which we began to define the basics of human rights.
And although many people truly wish for economics to be seen as fundamental laws of physics, it simply isn't and therefore its mechanics changeable at any time and to any degree as soon as enough people decide for it. Therefore, Google and facebook terms of use can only operate legally within the frameworks given by society, and this is what separates them significantly from barking dogs, meowing cats and the fact that water is wet.
I assume you would not tolerate when facebook would sell information they collect from their teenage customers, as well as their 'personality profiles' the could extract to certain degrees to pedophile circles for them to easier identify their next potential victims?
I think this 'ethical question' isn't as tricky as it seems, is it?
But why should our privacy be any more difficult from that? Isn't exactly this privacy what our legal system is so sensitive about? Why do we not allow our state executives to decide alone when to break into privacy and when not? Why do we back this up with judges to decide and this based on reasonable and defined rules and laws?
Yet as soon as 'the market' gets involved all of this security arrangements seems not to apply anymore. Why? For what reason?
And it would be such a simple rule! No data collection without conscious permission. Period.
And 'conscious permission' is important here to avoid this to get hidden deep within 30 pages of 'terms of conditions' which no one reads anyway. And Bingo!
Nov 8 2013: You seem to be more emotional about this issue than it deserves.
There are contradictions in what you say:
Re: "Wherever possible, I prefer wise compromises over stupid and unreflected regulations, yet there are also indisputable morals on which we continuously have to agree on as a society or even as a whole species, out of which we began to define the basics of human rights." ... "And it would be such a simple rule! No data collection without conscious permission. Period."
1. Wouldn't prohibiting to collect any information on the customers be stupid and unreflected? If I am selling something to a customer and ship it to his home address, I have to collect the name of the customer, what he bought, how much he paid, card number and such, and where I shipped the product. Over time, I will have a history of purchases from the same customer. Do I need an explicit customer consent to collect such information or is consent "implied"? How far should I go with my outrage and protest?
2. I do not understand the phrase "there are also indisputable morals on which we continuously have to agree on as a society". It sounds like we have to continuously dispute your "indisputable morals". To me, morals resemble left and right hand. I can swear that my right hand is on my right side. It is indisputable and absolute. It does not matter where I turn - it's ALWAYS on my right side. Now, YOUR right hand is a different matter. If we face the same direction, your right hand is on my right. But if we stand against each other, your right hand is on my LEFT. Ethical questions are as tricky as the question "on which side is the right hand"? The answer *seems* obvious and indisputable - on the "right" side until we start thinking, *whose* right side. The key to answering this question is the ability to "put ourselves in other person's shoes". This is the way to make wise compromises instead of stupid rules.Nov 9 2013: I also prefer wise compromises over stupid rules. This is why I'm OK with what Google and Facebook are doing. I let them do whatever they want, and I do whatever I want. Sounds like freedom to me. When I use Google and Facebook, I always assume that whatever I type in their web sites is public. If I don't want this information to be public, I do not submit it to Google and Facebook. This is why my Google and Facebook profiles do not contain much except my name and email address. It's simple. I don't need or require any regulations or court decisions.
I used to be riled-up about this stuff. It's not new. Take the use of social security numbers to track ALL aspects of your financial life. The history goes way before the Internet. As I got older, I realized that this is not the biggest problem in my life. E.g. it's more important for me to work and provide for my family than to hide my income from the IRS; or to conveniently pay my bills using a checking account than to hide my expenses from the bank and the government and pay my bills using cash.Nov 9 2013: '1. Wouldn't prohibiting to collect any information on the customers be stupid and unreflected?'
Why stupid? Why unreflected? Any customer can give permission for its data to be collected or not. So where is the problem to make a law, that data necessary for shipping & handling have to be deleted without further permission after a reasonable time period, which would be needed in case of shipping problem? If you so choose so, your data will be stored, mine has to be be deleted. One year later you just click &buy and I have to fill in my shipping data again. No big deal for both of us.
2) 'there are also indisputable morals on which we continuously have to agree on as a society
Sounds contradictory, doesn't it? Yet in fact it isn't and I choose these words consciously. Other than facts, such as your left & right hand, morals can and do change over time yet although changeable this doesn't mean that they can not be indisputable within certain periods, as often they are.
Not that long ago homosexuality was considered a taboo, unnatural, immoral or even a disease and we have developed since. Nevertheless at those days it even formed laws and additional morals, which were indisputable in those days. And do we know today what human right will look like in 2000 years from today? No. But does this mean that those we have today are disputable to anyone? No, because then we could not make laws around them, at to enforce its validity.
The relativity problem on morals you rightly rise and this is why I already referred to the majority interest in this context. There are more private individuals (customers) in this world then there are private corporations, and a wise decision should always aim at the most beneficial. Therefore this moral is not as difficult to find.
And as I said before, I have no problem when Google stores my search query and does with this data what they want, but they have no right to spy on my Internet habit beyond their site and service. Pretty logic.Nov 9 2013: 'I used to be riled-up about this stuff. It's not new.'
Yes, I understand your frustration, but privacy is nothing to defend just once in a lifetime to then be be granted afterwards and ever since. And the reason for this is, that it is of such delicate interest to so many, that there will always be highly erosive tides waving at it. Governments, corporations, secret services, you name it, you'll find it.
And as technology and its misuse develops faster than our usual legislative processes, we either speed the latter up (nice thought though) or formulate privacy protection in wider but clear terms, so that future technological back-doors are covered as best as possible.
On this, conscious permission and agreement on data collection is not only simple yet also pretty straight forward, as it neither hinders corporation to improve on their services with agreeing customers, nor does it allow for 'transparent customers' without protection. And because of this, I would consider this a very wise compromise, as it kills more than one bird with one stone.
Nov 9 2013: Yet again, it seems that we deal with one of those circular questions without an answer. "and a wise decision should always aim at the most beneficial." - beneficial to whom? To the majority? What about the minorities? Ignore and suppress?
I guess, the answer to moral questions is in paying attention to each other - trying to understand each other's needs and feelings. But too much of attention pretty soon turns into nagging and spying and invasion of privacy. As usual, we need to practice moderation... But not excessively. :-)Nov 9 2013: What better than the majority rule do we have to maximize fairness in beneficial outcomes in democracies?
Minority rule? Rule of financial power?
And why should Google & Co. be suppressed or ignored if they had to ask first to collect data legally? I am pretty certain that enough people would give heir allowance for them to optimize their customer service. You may well be one of them. And if no one would allow it, then this would be a highly valuable information for their business as well, as it is in not in any business interest to put off their customers.
Excessively is big data collection at the moment and this because of any lack of moderation. Its time for this to change as soon as possible, so that the digital age becomes profitable to all of us and does not continue as expected privacy striptease.
Nov 9 2013: As W. Churchill famously said, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
Re: "And why should Google & Co. be suppressed or ignored if they had to ask first to collect data legally?"
When Google gained ability to collect such data, it wasn't clear that they should ask permission to do that. In retrospect, we think, they should, but its the "20/20 hind sight". In a free society, people don't ask permission to do something that is not prohibited. Things are developing as they should: as people gain ability to do new things, they do them. Lawmakers cannot predict everything people can do, and nobody can predict all possible outcomes of every possible activity. I don't think it is possible to create laws to prevent harm which has never been done.
I think, in 20-30 years, these issues will be figured out. I have no worries about it.
I think, how people view their privacy will also change. E.g. in 1895, the idea of income tax was so outrageous, it was deemed unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court. After a century of brainwashing, paying income tax is now considered a patriotic duty and a cornerstone of U.S. democracy.Nov 11 2013: I take you quotation as an agreement that we have no better than the majority rule to maximize fairness in beneficial outcomes among grouping people.
On '20/20 hind sight' is to say, that privacy issues existed even before Google, long before, although this may surprise some and their freedom is naturally restricted by the freedom of others, and this especially if it is about privacy.
Finding new technical ways to invade privacy is no justification to do so. Or would you welcome your neighbors quad-copter, hovering in front of your window and aiming its video camera at you, just because we have no explicit law at the moment to forbid that? If my neighbor would do that, or my baker (to stay in the picture), both would have violated my privacy, or would you disagree on that?
As you rightly stated, lawmakers cannot predict everything people can do, and this is the reason why they defined murder by its essence and not by all possible or thinkable ways in which it can be done. And this for good reasons.
The same goes for privacy protection. When defined by its essence, the way it gets violated becomes irrelevant and this today as well as in 500 years from now, of which no one could possibly know what technologies are at hand at that time. And nobody needs to know by those kind of laws, just like it is with murder.
Maybe you overestimate the preventive power of laws. And in my view, this is not their main intention at all. Yet what they do is to enable people to make their case legally pursuable and violators legally punishable, which is a bit more sophisticated than arbitrary law or the club method from stone age.
Regarding brain washing is to say, that it is not only relative yet also needs those who wash and those who let their brains washed and here again, democracy is the best system we have to prevent this from happening. Yet democracy doesn't come free and has to be actively lived by their people. Maybe in 2095 there is no more US income tax, maybe even more.