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The general process can be summarized as consisting of the following steps.
1. Understand your local rules and make a plan
2. Get the appropriate permits
3. Get quotes and contracts from any subcontractors
4. Order materials (don't forget beer)
5. Begin construction. Getting periodic inspections as required.
6. Get more materials
7. Continue construction
8. Curse your incompetence
9. Get more materials
10. Repeat steps 7-9 ad nauseam
DISCLAIMER: While this Instructable details my experiences building a garage, your mileage may vary. Use your brain, at your own risk.
Step 1: I love it when a plan comes together!
So step 1 is simply this: do the legwork and get a plan together. Easier said than done.
Key areas to consider:
1. How big do you want the garage to be?
2. How big can the garage be (city ordinances!?!)?
3. Where and how many doors and windows?
4. What type of roof?
5. What parts are you going to subcontract?
The plan will depend on the rules in your local municipality. Since I undertook this project under the rules of a major metropolis, my example will be on the more restrictive end of the spectrum. If you live in the sticks, then you can probably build as big and awesome a garage as you like. Not me. :( So from this point forward I will be presenting the garage-building process from the point of view of a homeowner in the city of Minneapolis, which should transfer in large part to any city in the US of A.
The first thing to do is visit your city's website to learn about the permit and building plan process as well as any special restrictions in your area. Click here to go to the Minneapolis permit page.
Take the time to talk with your neighbors as well to give them a heads up on your plans for dominating the landscape with your new garage. If they don't like it then at least they can get used to the idea while you get underway. If you live in a neighborhood controlled by a homeowners association, you may need to talk to them as well. They really know how to put the ass in association. In general, as long as you do not require a "variance" or exception from city rules on such things as garage height, placement, and so forth you can build regardless of objections from neighbors.
In Minneapolis, we have alleys behind the houses in a lot of neighborhoods and very deep narrow building lots. As a result I didn't have room to expand the existing attached one-car garage. So I decided on building a detached two-car off of the alley in the backyard. The key municipal codes of interest were the required distances that must be maintained between the new structure and the property lines, adjacent structures, the alley right of way, and other urban features. Click here to read the relavant document (PDF).
You will want to draw up a sketch of your lot and your neighbors' lots so that you can get an idea of how things will fit in your yard in relation to the lot lines and other buildings. Get out a tape measure and a friend and take a walk around the yard to get accurate dimensions for the sketch. You also need to locate the metal stakes that mark the corners of your lot. These are often buried a few inches underground and are set 1 foot in from the actual lines. If you can't find the markers on your lot corners, walk around and find your neighbor's. It is permissible to use theirs as a reference point if you know your lot dimensions. I located my neighbor's corner marker two doors down which was very lucky. If you can't find these markers, you will have to commission an official survey ($$$) to locate them in order to draw up the site plan sketch. This sketch is required by the city in securing a permit, you will need to show this sketch and get the plan approved before a building permit will be issued. See my sketches below. The city of Minneapolis requires a top view building site plan with relevant dimensions as well as a series of detail and elevation drawings of the building itself. As you can tell the level of artistry involved does not need to be high.
When making the drawings, be sure to use the wonderous series of tubes we call the Internets to check the city webpage for property line and lot size information as well as using your favorite satellite imagery site to get info on the placement of buildings in your immediate vicinity . While a 3D model is not required by the city, I found Google's SketchUp to be a useful tool for visualizing how the garage was going to look in relation to the rest of the house, trees, neighbors, etc. Download it here. A sample shot of my model is below.
Once you have a set of drawings to your liking you can take some time and head down to the Minnesota Development Review offices at 250 S. 4th St., Room 300, Minneapolis MN. As a first-timer this can be intimidating, but even though this bureaucratic organ qualifies as part of "The Machine" the people there are there to help you out. If you read and understand the rules, bring in a good site plan and drawings, they will happily inform you of any problems, give you time to correct them, and then take your money with a smile. For reference, our 440 square foot detached garage cost $300 for a building permit. I also had to lop off 2 feet of the width since the city of Minneapolis allows a maximum of 676 square feet of accessory building. My existing 1-car attached counted towards that total, a fact I had overlooked. On your way out of the review office, be sure to get a parking token. With the new permit in hand, I was ready to begin purchasing materials, locating subcontractors, and other details.
In summary:
1. Communication with the building permit office and your neighbors is helpful and important.
2. Take the time to know the city rules.
3. Take measurements of your lot and draw up your site plan on your computer. Experiments here are easier than moving foundations later.
4. Get your plan approved by the city and get your permit.
Please stop spamming Instructables.
The rebar must be elevated enough so the gravel that is contained in the wet concrete will fit under it. The minimum is 1" and the maximum, for a 4" thick concrete, should be 1-1/2". If you've got old concrete blocks, you can break them and use the pieces as supports, but make sure you tie the rebar to these or they'll fall off while pouring concrete! Other items would be used bricks, pieces of concrete. NO organic materials that will decompose should be used! If you want to spend some $ and do it nicely, go to a contractors supply house and ask for 'rebar chairs'. These come individually and in 5' strips, which can be cut to short pieces.
Yes, the rebar needs to be tied together. This helps to keep it in place while you're pouring the wet concrete, and it does give strength.
The rebar must also overlap where it is tied/spliced together. The rule for how much overlap is: 18 x Diameter (in inches). So if you're using 1/2" diameter rebar, 18 x 1/2" = 9 inch overlap. If using #6 bar (rebar is named in 1/8", so #6 = 6/8" or 3/4" diameter) the required minimum overlap is 18 x .75, or 12" overlap.
did you use sketchup BTW?
PS like the a-team reference!
1. Would that be enough to support some light weight storage?
2. The rafters sit right over top of the studs, so my existing joists are ~2 inches off to the side. The new joists would rest in middle between studs. Would that be putting too much load in a bad place?
1. If there is a central beam so that the joists only span 12 feet, then getting 2x6 on 24" centers would support storage in my opinion, but your local inspector may be of a different mind. 24 feet is a long span for a 2x6, so without a central beam I would be hesitant to put much weight up there. I don't have my span table on me but that would be a good place to start for maximum span as a function of spacing and lumber.
2. The new joists in the middle between studs should not be a problem if you have a double top plate which is one of the main reasons a double top plate is required, if not it should still be OK for storage. Again your local inspector would be the end authority. You could put joists on 16" centers over each stud to be safe. This would only be 6 extra joists, so not much money. Tougher to get big stuff into the "attic" though.
Good luck.
There is no central beam. They were able to span the 24' distance by using two 2x6. They are each about 13' long and are fastened together with several screws at the overlap. They are then fastened to a vertical 2x4 running from peak of the roof. Kind of scary, huh?
I don't know much about framing, but it doesn't sound like the joists should be able to support anything on their own; all the support would come from the 2x4 tied into the roof.
I'm going to have a framer come by and check it out for me. Hopefully, I can get away with replacing the existing stuff with 2x10 on 16" centers.
Replacing the 2x6s with 2x10s without increasing the bending strength would be a waste of money. If you can get 2x10s long enough (and can fit them in the building!!) to go the full span from wall to wall, and tie them into the roof with a vertical 2x4 using a suitable hanger then you should be in good shape. If you can't get full span lumber, then I would just fill in between the existing 2x6s and 2x4s with duplicates to make them 16" on center and call it good. Use hangers or mending plates if possible. Throw some plywood up there to bridge the joists and you'd have some light storage. I wouldn't walk up there though.
Good luck
In any case, I ended up going to Home Depot and speaking with someone at their Pro Desk. He thought I would need a center beam and referred me to their LVL manufacturer. After I spoke with them and provided the dimensions and the live/dead load and they recommended four 1 3/4" X 16" LVLs.
I just have to figure out how to tie it into the walls. I plan on running it under the existing joists, but I will have to cut into my top plate so the top of the LVL will be on the same level as the bottom of the joists.
Thanks for your help.
Maybe I should write that process up...
Yes I'd like to see any additional work you've done.
I'm planning the same sort of garage thing, but I want to insulate the roof and walls. We get no ice here in So Cal, but it gets roasting hot in the summer. I have been told to make sure to use a moisture barrier and weep screens at the bottom of the walls to avoid mold problems.
On another note, was there a reason you chose this type of roof construction over what is called Type 5 which has a central beam and provides more open rafter space?
I'm in the research phase, I'm right on the fence between trying to build one myself and just buying a Tuff-Shed brand garage as I don't have a bunch of framing experience.
Thanks again
Using the moisture wrap and screens are a good idea, I just didn't feel it was needed on our install. Time will tell, and at least I know where to find the builder for rework.
I chose this type of roof construction because of low cost, ease of build and permit approval. Getting a plan approved and passing inspection is easy with pre-fabbed trusses but takes a lot more work on a hand built roof as you describe. I just didn't have the confidence in getting a ridge beam hoisted 20+ feet in the air. Those LVL beams are heavy as heck, and getting them in position at the peak would require a crane that I did not have or desire to rent. An attic with more storage room is possible with that type of roof, but I am able to store a fair amount of stuff in the trusswork so I can't complain. The main reason I would go that route would be to allow an insulated ceiling in the main garage room, and a separate attic with access hatch/ladder. That would allow the garage to be cooler in summer and warmer in winter. However, the attic would be hot as all hell and limit what you could store up there.
Framing is pretty easy if you can measure and mark wood, make consistent square cuts to length within 1/8" of desired, have access to a pneumatic framing nailer, and if you have fairly straight lumber. Sizing and design of the door and window openings and headers can be an area where experience is helpful. That said, building it yourself is more fun than a Tuff-Shed any day, at least once you are finished.
It's easier to lay them flat, with the peak (tip) laying on the cross wall (over your garage door in this case). After the first truss, spread the others out a little, like a spread deck of cards, to distribute the weight. Keep the bottom chord of each truss on your top plate.
If you do this right, you can just stand each truss and wiggle it over into place, rather than flipping each one completely over. Safer and easier.
Forgot to mention, for the last few trusses you have to move them up against the completed trusses and work from the other end. Be sure to follow your layout (you DID mark a layout, right?) or measure off the places trusses so your sheeting lines up with your trusses.
Great instructable, by the way. Looks like SketchUp for the visuals?
You'll also save time by doing 3-4 rows at a time and working all the way across, so you don't have to move around as much walking back and forth cutting and filling the ends.
Great site!!! My roof will be 7/12 pitch. I've seen others nail down 2x2's or other size strips on the roof to use as footholds while on steeper inclines. Seems to me this would damage the felt---- or would you start at the top and work down in this case, removing the strips as you go? I'm in the southeast so I don't have to worry about ice barriers (thank goodness)...
I'll have the same issue with shingles....


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There's an archived version of this pattern available, taken from the Ajax Pattern book draft, showing roughly how it appeared before the page became publicly editable.
Evidence: 2/3
Tags: Logout Session Suspend Timeout
In A Blink
Message "Your session was terminated after 30 minutes of inactivity."
Goal Story
Tracy was so keen to leave the office on Friday afternoon that she forgot to shut down the market news website. Fortunately, the website monitors mouse movements, meaning that if she doesn't interact with the page for an hour, it will suspend itself, saving a lot of wasted refreshes. On Monday morning, Tracy walks in and sees a screensaver-like animation on the page, with a message indicating that updates have ceased. She clicks a mouse button and sees the screen update with the latest prices.
How can you tell if the user's still working with the application?
- Users often leave an application in a browser window, but don't actually interact with it for hours or days. Many times, they abandon it altogether. The practice is becoming more prevalent as all major browsers now support multi-tab browsing.
- Ajaxian applications often use Periodic Refresh to keep informed of server state. The user may not care about the application anymore, but if it's still in the browser, a naieve implementation will continue to poll the server indefinitely: a massive waste of bandwidth and resources.
- Ajaxian applications often contain sensitive data which is at risk if the user forgets to log out when leaving a public terminal.
- Ajaxian applications often involve collaboration and communication between users. To cultivate an awareness of other users and their activities, the server must track the state of individual browsers.
Have the browser timeout the user after a period of inactivity, and optionally inform the server. After a period of inactivity, the application is suspended, requiring the user to manually resume it; or shut down, requiring the user to restart.
This pattern raises the whole question of sessions in Ajax. Conventional applications usually have server-side session objects which represent the user's current session. Typically, this means short-lived information such as shopping cart contents or recently-viewed items.
In Ajax, server-side sessions are not so useful. In fact, if you rely solely on RESTful Services, you may not need those session objects at all. In browser-centric Ajax applications, the browser is a fully-fledged application with all of the session state held within. So the browser state is the session. The server-side session, if used at all, is only relevant to authentication and has no impact on the response to any particular query. See RESTful Service for more details.
How is all of this relevant to Timeout? Well, consider this familiar nightmare scenario:
The user opens up a form, spends two hours populating it while researching the answers, clicks on submit. Browser then responds with "Your session has expired" and adds insult to injury by presenting a new blank form.
Scenarios like this are all too common because server-side session timeouts ignore what's happening in the browser. If the user hasn't submitted a form in, say, 30 minutes, the session times out and all the data is lost. That's a problem if the user has been actively working on the browser side. With an Ajax application, the server does have a better chance of staying in sync with the browser because of XMLHttpRequest Calls. In most environments, the server-side session will be automatically refreshed when an XMLHttpRequest Call comes in. However, even that's not optimal because the server still doesn't know why browser calls are occurring. For applications using Periodic Refresh, for example, a server-side session will stay alive indefinitely even if the user has left the building.
By relying instead on browser-based timeout detection, we can be more intelligent about how timeouts occur. Browser-based timeout detection is based on Event Scheduling. A timer is established to count down to timeout state. Each significant activity cancels the timer and starts a new one in its place.
What activities are significant enough to restart the timer? Mouse movement is one candidate. You can monitor each mouse movement on the page, and one of the Refactoring Illustrations below does exactly that. Mouse movements are a very broad indicator, and you might be concerned about "false positives": suggestions that a user is still working with an application when they're in fact not, e.g. they just happened to move the mouse across the browser window while cycling through each open window . You'll also get some "false negatives": a user working only with the keyboard is liable to be timed out. If you'd prefer to keep the session going only if the user is actively changing data, you can instead catch events such as button clicks and keypresses within input fields.
Sudden timeouts can be frustrating for users, so consider these feedback measures:
- Unobtrusively show timeout status, e.g. number of minutes remaining. You might highlight the status as timeout approaches, and also offer some background and instruction on avoiding the timeout.
- When timeout is approaching, offer a warning and an opportunity to explicitly restart the timer.
Once you've detected the user is inactive, what do you do? Timeout can be used in several ways.
- Stopping Periodic Refresh: Conventional applications tend not to do anything when the user is idle, but many Ajaxian applications continuously poll the server. Thus, the timeout should trigger cancellation of any Periodic Refresh timers.
- Clear data: Sometimes, an inactive application is a hint that the user may no longer be in control of a terminal. There's a risk someone else could gain access to the user's data and application permissions, e.g. in an internet cafe or a malicious employee in an office. A convenient way to do this might be to set document.url to the main application URL, so as to refresh the page. In addition, you might delete cookies holding sensitive data.
- Save data: If you clear data, you might also consider saving it on the server first. There's nothing that's more annoying than arriving back from lunch only to find a partially filled form has been cleared for security purposes. With an XMLHttpRequest Call, you have the option of saving the user's progress as a "draft".
- Inform user: If you're performing these other activities, you'll need to provide some feedback to the user about what's happening and what they should do about it.
- Inform server: Although it's the browser that controls session timeouts, the server can neverthless be kept informed and can use server-side sessions for this purpose.
On the last point of informing the server, there are quite a few applications of server-side session tracking:
- Invalidating Server-Side Session: The server can invalidate any server-side session data, for security purposes.
- Historical Records: The server can retain timeout data to help personalise the website, provide feedback to users, and also to you, the site operator.
- Multi-User Awareness: In multi-user systems and especially any sites hoping to foster a community, users should be aware of each others' activities. Indeed, the "live web" - or, as Technorati puts it, "What's Happening on the Web Right Now?" - is becoming a key phenomenon of Web 2.0. When the server is able to track what users are working on, and how long they have been idle, this information (subject to privacy considerations) can be conveyed to other users. That's especially important when users are collaborating on the same workspace, for instance in an Ajaxian wiki environment.
- Pessimistic Locking: Pessimistic locking is a technique used to prevent two users working on the same thing at once. In a wiki, for example, a user can lock the article to have sole access to it until it's saved or until the user goes idle for a while. While this can be open to abuse on the public web, it would actually be quite a good model for many intranet applications. However, it's not been practical because of the risk the user might walk away and leave the lock intact. Server-side session timeouts don't help much, because the user might be busily working in the browser, but not yet ready to submit content. But once the server is aware of what the user's doing in the browser, pessimistic locking starts to become practical. If the user hasn't done anything for the last 30 minutes, for example, they lose the lock. Again, Ajax helps here, because with Periodic Refresh, you can immediately inform the user they've lost the lock.
- Work Scheduling: In a variant of Predictive Fetch, it's possible for the server to proactively prepare for future actions. By tracking active users, the process becomes more focused. For example, a blog aggregator could run a periodic background process to build a list of unread articles for each active user, should they decide to view that list.
So informing the server of a timeout is a good thing. But there's still a small problem with this approach: what if the user quits the browser or moves away to another site? Then, a timeout will never occur and the browser will blissfully continue assuming the user's logged in for all eternity. To alleviate this problem, have the server refresh a user's record upon each incoming request that suggests user activity. However, there remains that risk of inadvertently timing out a user who's performing browser-only activity. So what we need is a way for the browser to keep telling the server the user's still active - explictly noting that a timeout hasn't actually occurred. And that's what the Heartbeat pattern's about - see that pattern for more details.
How long will the timeout period be?
The timeout period will depend on the purpose for having the timeout period in the first place. For example, if the purpose is primarily to stop Periodic Refresh, you need to weigh up the benefits of reduced bandwidth and server costs, against the frustration caused to users who will have to re-activate the page and wait a few seconds for the latest data. In practice, there are probably several reasons to use Timeout and the needs of each must be taken into consideration.
How will timeout affect the user-interface?
A Timeout can impact the interface in different ways. There are several options:
- Wipe the entire display and show a message that the user was timed out, or the session is suspended. This would be worthwhile if the data is sensitive.
- As a variant on the previous point, reload the entry point for the application (as if the user had typed the main URL in).
- Perform a DOM Rearrangement to insert a new message about the timeout into the page.
In addition, if you want to be really sure that users know they've been timed out, you could produce an alertbox. Use Timeout alertboxes with caution: it's quite obtrusive, and you could probably make the Timeout equally obvious with a carefully considered page element. A less obtrusive mechanism would be a Popup.
Real-World Examples
Many conventional websites have a session timeout feature, though it's implemented server-side rather than the way described here.
Lace Chat
Brett Stimmerman's Lace Chat is an Ajaxian chat application. As such, it requires a Periodic Refresh to keep showing new messages, a serious bandwidth concern if the user's no longer interested in the conversation. So, after some idle time, a dialog box appears indicating Lace has stopped and includes a button allowing the user to resume. Lace also has a Status Area that always shows whether the application is running - i.e. if the server is being polled. In fact, you can pause and resume it manually too. The timeout mechanism hooks into this state, by forcing the application to pause upon timeout.
Session Warning Demo
Eric Pascarello has explained a demo system which has a standard server-side session timeout, but also pops up a warning near timeout allowing the user to renew the timeout. There are implementations in both VB.net and JSP.
Operating System Timeouts
A good precursor to Ajaxian Timeout is with operating systems, such as Apple OSX, that show a warning when they are about to enter standby mode. A popup dialog explains something like "You haven't used the mouse or keyboard for 15 minutes. Standby mode will start in 30 seconds." The dialog will count down ,and the user can prevent it with a keyboard or mouse action, or explicitly hitting a Cancel button. A similar precursor is present in remote terminal systems that output an idle warning to the console.
Refactoring Illustration
Introducing Timeout to the Wiki
Timeout is a very useful pattern for a wiki, on several counts. First, it cuts down on Periodic Refresh wastage. Second, it helps users understand what others are up to. Third, it improves security if users are logged on. For all those reasons, we'll now be adding some Timeout functionality to the Basic Wiki Demo. (The Periodic Refresh Time Demo also has a couple of similar timeout refactorings under it.)
Initial Refactoring: Unconditional Timeout
This initial version, Timeout Wiki Demo, is merciless. Log into the wiki and, no matter what you do, you're timed out a few seconds later. The point, of course, is to introduce and prove the basic timeout functionality.
To the initial HTML, a timeout message is added, which will initially be hidden.

 Timed out. Please reload the page to continue.

The script begins by hiding the timeout message and kicking off a timeout timer.
window.onload = function() { ... $("timeoutMessage").style.display = "none"; timeoutTimer = setTimeout(onTimeout, TIMEOUT_TIME); }
When timeout occurs, the timeout message is made visible (with some fanfare, courtesy of a Scriptaculous effect). Most importantly, the periodic sync stops, so no more polling the server. All the messages are removed from the page as well.
function onTimeout() { new Effect.BlindDown($("timeoutMessage")); stopPeriodicSync(); removeMessages(); } ... function removeMessages() { while ($("messages").hasChildNodes()) { $("messages").removeChild($("messages").firstChild); } }
Warning that Timeout is Pending
If only for the selfish reason that we want to avoid being flamed by the user, it would be nice to warn them a timeout's about to occur. And nicer still to let them prevent it from occurring. So this demo introduces a warning mechanism.
To the previous timeout message, we add a warning message as well. Both are initially invisible. The warning includes a renew button, which will invoke renewSession().

 Near timeout. Please <button id="renew">Renew</button> your session now.

window.onload = function() { ... $("renew").onclick=renewSession; ... }
renewSession() is not only used on renew, but also on startup. It resets both the timeoutTimer and the warningTimer. Note that these timers have been introduced as variables in the script, precisely so we can cancel them in this method. In addition, renewSession() kicks off the standard wiki sync timer and hides the warning and timeout messages in case either is showing.
var timeoutTimer = null; var warningTimer = null; ... function renewSession() { $("warningMessage").style.display = "none"; $("timeoutMessage").style.display = "none"; clearInterval(warningTimer); clearInterval(timeoutTimer); warningTimer = setTimeout(onWarning, WARNING_TIME); timeoutTimer = setTimeout(onTimeout, TIMEOUT_TIME); startPeriodicSync(); }
So as long as the user clicks on the renew button while it's showing, they can force all timers to be restarted. But if they don't click on it, timeout will proceed. We simply have to ensure the warning message is shown before the timeout message, i.e. WARNING_TIME must fall short of TIMEOUT_TIME. When timeout occurs, we can assume the warning's already being shown, so we replace it with the timeout message. And as before, we stop synchronisation and remove all messages.
function onTimeout() { new Effect.BlindUp($("warningMessage")); new Effect.Appear($("timeoutMessage")); stopPeriodicSync(); removeMessages(); }
Monitoring mouse movements
A warning's better than nothing, but it does have a slight odour of techno-centeredness. From the user's perspective, why should they have to explicitly renew the session. What's this timeout business anyway? For most users, it's better to handle timeout on their behalf. This demo builds on the initial Timeout demo to suspend activity when the user's idle.
Here, we'll make an assumption that the user is working with the mouse. That is, we can assume the user's idle if (and only if) they haven't used the mouse for a while. As before, we only have one timeout message, which we've altered to help the user understand how to bring all those messages back again.

 Timed out. Please wiggle your mouse to continue.

The key to this pattern is watching for mouse movements on the page, and renewing the session when that happens. Actually, that's easy enough to achieve.
window.onload = function() { ... document.getElementsByTagName("body")[0].onmouseover = function(event) { renewSession(); } ... }
Calling a function on each mouse movement could get grossly inefficient. In this demo, I'm not worried about that. But in real life, you might want to be just a little more intelligent about this. For example, use some sort of throttling algorithm to ensure renewSession isn't called more than once every few seconds.
renewSession itself works similarly to the warning demo above: it hides the timeout message and kicks off sync and timeout timers.
function renewSession() { if ($("timeoutMessage").style.display!="none") { new Effect.BlindUp($("timeoutMessage")); } clearInterval(timeoutTimer); if (!syncTimer) { startPeriodicSync(); } timeoutTimer = setTimeout(onTimeout, TIMEOUT_TIME); }
Related Patterns
Heartbeat is a companion pattern to help the server to monitor if the user is still working in the browser.
Periodic Refresh
For Ajaxian applications, reducing Periodic Refreshes is a big motivation for Timeout functionality.
Progress Indicator
Progress Indicator is normally used for feedback during an XMLHttpRequest Call. However, another application would be to count down towards the timeout. The display could be present as a permanent fixture, or alternatively you could introduce it near timeout.
Direct Login
If your timeout requires re-authentication to continue working with the system, you probably want to offer a Direct Login.
Status Area
You can show timeout-related messages and countdowns in a Status Area.
You can show timeout-related messages and countdowns in Popups.
Visual Metaphor
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Andrew Luck, played way tougher opponents
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RG3 has played out of his mind this year.
honestly IMO RG3 and Ball should be the top 2.
Whichever of these kids wins the trophy probably deserves it. I don't think any of them are an undeserving candidate except for Mathieu. You can't get suspended from your team and win the Heisman Trophy.
The issue I have is that I don't understand how the Big-12 conference can distinguish and differentiate between which QB's deserve consideration and which one's don't. The conference plays zero defense, and every year they have 3, 4 or 5 quarterbacks who are all ringing up Heisman stats that are all for the most part, identical. If one deserves it they all deserve it.
Griffin threw the late interception that lost the game against Kansas St., and 2 more interceptions against Oklahoma St. in a lackluster performance. Hell, his backup came in and completed 75% of his passes and threw 2 TD's in no time when Griffin was hurt. The offense never missed a lick.
Trent Richardson put up almost 170 yards of total offense against the #1 team in the country, and one of the best defenses college football has seen in the past 20 years. The same defense that shut down a Heisman caliber back in LaMichael James. Trent was the best player on the field in a game overflowing with elite NFL talent all over the field for both teams. The Alabama coaching staff cost Trent the Heisman Trophy when he didn't get a single carry in overtime.... and it's also why we lost that game. They needed to give Trent the rock in that situation.
He was held out almost the entire 1st quarter against rival Auburn and still rushed for over 200 yards.
Richardson has faced tougher defenses than any of these guys, and every single yard of his 1,500+ has come after contact by literally carrying almost an entire defense full of guys on his back because he won't go down, or juking elite athletes in the SEC completely out of their jocks in the open field.
He's fumbled on 1 time during his 3 year career which includes over 600 touches.
Again, whoever wins it probably deserves it, but I know who I'd vote for.


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That blood is used daily in surgeries, medical procedures, cancer treatments and emergency treatments. Every three seconds, someone needs blood, and every pint of blood donated has the potential to save three lives.
At Weiss, past blood drives have each brought in between 25 and 35 units. Calling the rate low, Peterson adds, "We are hoping to get the word out early enough to have a greater turn-out."
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I wrote this blog post and just checked with the organizers about whether or not a similar event will take place here again.
While they have nothing planned for sure yet, you can attend similar safety classes at some Chicago police stations. Check with your local station to see if they have any upcoming events, and once we have more info, I'll let you know.
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This past weekend I was asked to do a workshop for brand spanking new authors at The Business of Writing International Summit in Louisville, KY. I shared duties with Sheila Clover English and we talked about author etiquette, a whole other blog subject. Meet absolutely lovely people and am now enjoying the week in Kentucky. Thanks for all the suggestion on what to do here. Meanwhile, the WW Ladies have been enjoying a few books.
My Big Fat Demon Slayer Wedding by Angie Fox
Read by Joan
Lizzie Brown was adopted and raised by a prestigious family in Atlanta, Georgia. When she goes looking for her biological family she discovers her grandma turns out to be not only a witch but belongs to a coven of over 25 Harley riding biker witches. Lizzie determines that her life as a properly raised southern, elementary school teacher is not her true calling, but that she is actually a demon slayer. When she meets and chooses to marry very handsome Dimitri, she is already worried about how her adoptive society mother will take finding out about her being a demon slayer, grandma being a witch, or that her fiancé and his family are shape-shifting Griffins.
This is the fifth book in the series and it is light and entertaining. I love the characters and the fact Lizzie can understand and carry on a conversation with her dog, Pirate. Since I was a small girl I have believed in magic, so throw in voices and ghosts and demonic symbols on the wedding grounds, and MBFDSW feeds happily right into my imagination.
His Clockwork Canary by Beth Ciotta
Read by joysann
Willie G., also known as the Clockwork Canary, and the most popular reporter of Britain's scandal sheets, has promised readers a fantastic, sensationalist exclusive report on the search for an invention of historical importance by Simon Darcy, of that notorious and unfortunate scientific family. Unknown to everyone, including Simon, the disguised Willie G. is really Wilhelmina Goodenough, the secret lost love of Simon's youth, and she really doesn't want to be there. But she helps with Simon's dangerous quest through catacombs and in the sky for a most ambitious prize which could change the world – again.
The Glorious Victorious Darcys series started with Her Sky Cowboy, and Beth Ciotta's inventive steampunk alternate world is an amazing place to visit. I read these two books one right after the other, pausing only for the e-novella in between to round out the story. I'm loving the characters, all of them, and find I'm delighted with the world's premise and the action and romance that kept me enthralled.
Death, Taxes and Hot Pink Leg Warmers by Diane Kelly
Read by Heidi
Tara Holloway is hot on two IRS cases: She has to be undercover at a strip club to bring down the owner and their illegal activities. And she has to go to trial to bring down the "Tennis Racketeers" who have cheated lots of people out of millions of dollars. But the biggest reason she's hot is because she has to spend one month seeing if Nick is the one for her, or if her past boyfriend Brent is the one she was supposed to be with. All of this action and going with her boss for daily workouts in hot pink leg warmers equals a wild ride for Special Agent Tara!
Tara's back and better than ever!! Between her two cases and her constant struggle not to jump Nick's bones, makes for a great end of summer read for me!! I don't know which I enjoy more, the action, the humor, or the thought of Tara falling in love with her hot pink leg warmers. All I do know is that I have a constant smile on my face when I read all about Tara's latest adventure, and I can't wait for the next one!!
Kissing Booth by Beth Reekles
Read by Olivia, 13
Even though Elle hasn't been asked out on many dates, she doesn't think she is ugly or is as pretty as the other girls in her school. Elle has her best friend Lee and they would never date. When Lee and Elle run a kissing booth for their school's carnival, Elle has to fill in. The thing is Elle never kissed a guy, especially not her best friend's big brother.
I am going to tell you that this is one crazy, funny and classic love story in my view and I love that the author is only 17. If you need a novel to read in a long boring car ride, definitely read Kissing Booth.
Havana Lost by Libby Fischer Hellmann
Read by Michelle
Havana Lost spans the time of three generations and the distance between Cuba and Chicago. A young woman in Havana, Frankie Pacelli falls in love. Her lover is part of the revolution fighting for Fidel Castro to gain power. Frankie's father Tony has arranged a different marriage. Frankie runs off with her new lover Luis Perez, her choice starts an avelanche of pain and loss through the generations for Frankie and those she holds dear.
An intriguing novel in an exotic setting that thrilled my sense of adventure.
Bottom Line: Today is National Root Beer Float Day and you can get free floats at A&W, so I'm off to locate one in Kentucky.


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Part of DC Comics moving to Burbank
Superman And Batman Go West
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September 21, 2010
by Richard George There are some things in the comic book industry that seem certain - that will be true no matter what else happens. There will always be Superman comics. There will always be Spider-Man comics. And there will always be two publishers - DC and Marvel - in New York City. But an announcement today has partially changed one of those truisms - DC Comics is moving to the West Coast... Some of it, at any rate.
The publisher is moving a significant portion of its staff to Burbank, California (home of Warner Bros. Entertainment) while keeping its core comics publishing unit in New York. From an announcement released this morning, DC will "relocate its business functions related to and supporting multi-media and digital content production." That is later clarified to encompass all of DC Entertainment's work in film, television, videogames, digital media, consumer products as well as administrative functions. The move is expected to be completed by the end of 2011.
"These organizational changes reinforce the strengths of DC's greatest legacies – most importantly its people and its creative talent – and offer greater opportunity for maximum growth, success and efficiency in the future," said Diane Nelson, President of DC Entertainment (DCE). "Our two offices will stretch and build their respective areas of focus, while prioritizing and aggressively striving to connect and cooperate more strongly than ever before between them and with their colleagues at Warner Bros."
To be honest, for those of us in the industry, this isn't that big of a surprise. Rumors of a DC move have been circulating almost since the formation of the DCE entity over a year ago. With Nelson, DCE Chief Creative Officer Geoff Johns, DC Comics Co-Publisher Jim Lee and DCE Executive VP of Sales, Marketing and Business Development John Rood all based in California, some shift did seem likely.
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Burbank's a great community. If there's any drawback to the town, that would be it borders LA.
There's always been a singificant comic artist presence out here. When I first started working in animation I was surprised how many comic book artists were working in the biz. It's only natural that DC has a presence here.
In 1980 while on a business trip on behalf of Hallmark Cards, I visited Marvel's studio in Sherman Oaks. That's where I met Stan Lee. He autographed a whole seriesof his books for me as a gift. Marvel's been here a long time. Makes sense for DC too. What took them so long.
Also, Hasbro is in Burbank. They're at the same complex as Starz Media/Film Roman/The Simpsons.
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Thats what we need. More companies that treat their artists like crap moving to LA. lol
had to say it. Kinda was open considering DC. hahahaha
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No worries bro!
Artists can always stand up for themselves and fight for their right to be treated nicely and with gentleness and kind words. Especially in Burbank.
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Are you sick and tired of being abused by your non union employer? Well, bully them into going Union so you can experience abuse from a Union shop...only difference, is now you're paying dues!
Save your career!!!!
hahaha, no, thats not fear based propaganda. my bad. hahahaha
It's your future!!
(disclaimer: art and rhetoric used from the past)
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Ah, man, guys! Just when I was making some headway on Guild/AN relations . . .
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Well, all kidding aside,but if thats what you're doing I'm kinda bummed you're investing any of your time into such things.
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It's funny, cuz when the Guild puts down AN or others it's freedom of speech. But when freedom of speech is exercised here they take offense and take off the link to AN from their blog. Snakebite has the same right to express himself as anyone else does, even more when it comes to the Guild since he's not trolling.
And I find this humorous as well, that when I post the Guild's ad that used to run in Animation Magazine for years and years, it's as if it's an embarrassment to them.
As long as we keep in mind that the Guild is a benefits management group, it makes sense. And if DC artists in Burbank are looking for a good benefits package that's offered for studio work in the industry, it makes sense for them to sign up. Other than that, the guild ain't gonna make too much of a difference.
So take their advice and fight for your rights. However that fight takes shape. Even if it's a fight with the Guild itself.
EAllen, thanks for your behind the scene diplomatic efforts but I fear you may be wasting your time. I don't know how far you'll get with these guys but I commend you for trying.
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If anyone has a problem they know who I am, where to find me and what I'm about. I'm transparent in my intent. Not only am I not a troll but I've worked in Animation for 15 years. Some, like union reps, would use rhetoric and innuendo to make it sound like i have no credibility because my resume doesn't have union jobs listed, or use innuendo to make it sound like I don't want to pay my way being the reason behind not working for Union houses...but I see no reason to pay the Union to work. If I want their benefits, sure. I should pay. But to get the job initially??? nope. thats a shake down. A scam. I am expected to pay federal taxes, state and city, plus self employment tax and business tax..and then I have to pay to work..sure benefits are better but I'm still paying for that a well. They try to make it sound romantic. PAY YOUR DUES! Like it's a noble thing. But it's more fear being pushed. I don't even think they know its fear anymore. I believe they think its normal to make people pay in order to work...but hey, Bite, the have payment plans. I bet they do. They make it easy for you to pay...whatever the fuk that means. Easy to pay. What the hell is wrong with people. Keep lowering that bar.
I've worked for DC, they treat their artists like crap...with a smile..and most the sheep who work for them will protect their abuser, like an abused wife.
So yeah, go work for DC and the big companies. Keep their intellectual properties alive so they make billions off them. Collect your pay check and tell me shut the hell up. What do I know anyways. The union and Obama will protect you.
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I defer to Snakebite in regards to how DC treats their artists as he has the experience. Although I understand where he's coming from concerning the guild and union jobs, my feelings are that if it works for you, if your goals are to work the studio system in Los Angeles County and give it as many years as you can, then I think what the guild has to offer is in the best interests of the individual for as long as they're able to stay within the studio employment system. My disappointment is rooted in other areas.
Artists have the power to change things if they unify and exert their power.
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The irony to me is that unity will happen outside of a Union.
Also, in regards to DC. I like how they are leaving the publishing (print) in NY while focusing on digital publishing here...that means more animation people will have potential work..if they can stomach comic book rates.
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Bite, if MLK had the same attitude--"it won't work"--we'd all still get a stick up our ass every week.
Bite, I have to give it a try. I'm not spending much time on it. The majority of my time is still going towards building up my brand. My website will be up soon. My book will be out soon. Reason why all this stuff didn't get done sooner has to do with me tending to my folks back home for a while when they needed me. If that had never happened, some of my biggest goals would be recognized by now--and there'd be no questions.
A couple hours here and there for a shot at better relations with the Guild? Heh, why not. You guys approved SteveK's account here (anyone wanting to post here needs skynet/Charles's approval before they can go ahead) so it was really that event that brought things to another level.
New beginnings. We are blind until we learn how to see.
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DC Comics = a push into digital publishing = more work for animation professionals on top of other opportunities other independent companies are presenting. Who's losing in this situation?
Sounds like a FTW, once again, for pros who need the work!
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Brutha Enoch, please do not take my position on anything as me trying to get you to do anything. You can try all you want...but remember what Yoda said about try.
Yes, more work, more opportunities..AND Lower standards with the added, you're lucky to have anything in this economy, attitude.
I see rates coming down big time for the a large amount of work with these digital comics. I'm sure people will say I'm wrong, but I'll let the rates prove that. From what I hear so far, its a lot of work for limited pay.
Might as well move to LA and take advantage of all the hot talent looking for work! WIN WIN!
Have courage my friends.
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Ah yes, Mister Bite.
Do or do not. There is no try.
To that, I must respond: All you can do is try. And hope to succeed.
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I just had a phone chat with pal Doug Moench. Doug has written a massive amount of comics for both DC and Marvel including Batman and Moon Knight which he created.
Doug was wondering about the power of the internet and the digital era and I had to quote him some marketing trends.
Back in the '90s when I told comics people I worked with that the web would be the arena for greater expansion, I was laughed at, told the internet was a "trend" and of course, mainstream comics caught onto the web late.
Nowadays, the potential and reality of getting one's works spread to tens of millions is the marketing monster. Blogging and social networking allows artists to get the word out like never before. Facebook alone can make you a millionaire if used strategically. I had no idea how powerful Facebook and Twitter have become. Just one link, quote, can be duplicated exponentially to millions in a matter of hours.
So this is where comics and good cartoonists come in. There are 100s of millions of people on the web and they're all searching for something or other. A website, a blog, needs to be unique to not only grab the audience, but retain that audience, convert that audience into customers to generate income and residual,passive income.
In other words, content is king like never before.
Contracts with digital rights are growing. The sky's the limit with the right companies. DC, Marvel have such a monstrous reach throughout the world now that an artist worth their salt can get their name blasted on millions of blogs and websites easily. It's converting that attention and traffic into more attention, traffic, and income that is the challenge.
I've said it before, you don't need a million people to be wealthy, you can get that core 1,000-10,000 fans who will loyally buy your products monthly and you'll do just fine.
I've been studying new marketing and online income sources the past month and I'm literally blown over. Was missing many great opportunities.
So the brick and mortar is cool, but the digital is just beyond comprehension. It behooves the artist of today to get their best work out there with solid companies like DC and Marvel, but also the artist must learn marketing on the web. It will give the artist more control over their career, not be dependent on others and produce at one's own pace with the quality needed.
With 7 billion people on Earth and several billion on the web, you damn sure ain't gonna run out of customers.
I'm still hoping one day AN will have it's own line of online comics. I'm quite sure it would be able to make quite an impact.
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