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- Mohammad Mohammadipour
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Can Money Buy Happiness?
Maybe more cash does make people happier. Especially salient are analyses done by University of Pennsylvania economists Daniel Sacks, Betsey Stevenson, and Justin Wolfers. In their updated 2010 study, "Subjective Well-Being, Income, Economic Development and Growth," the three compare subjective well-being survey data from 140 countries with those countries' income and economic growth rates. The researchers find that within individual countries richer people are happier than poorer; people in richer countries are happier than people in poorer countries; and over time increased economic growth leads to increased happiness. "These results together suggest that measured subjective well-being grows hand in hand with material living standards," they conclude..
Feb 13 2013: For me; Happiness is a journey rather than a place. Money can buy the chances to venture forth along different paths, but in my opinion, your heart and mind is where you "feel" happy. So ultimately, money can only buy an opportunity to feel this emotion. Actual happiness is priceless.
Feb 13 2013: Hi Thomas
"For me; Happiness is a journey rather than a place".
I think it is journey and the place..
"Money can buy the chances to venture forth along different paths"
"but in my opinion, your heart and mind is where you "feel" happy. So ultimately, money can only buy an opportunity to feel this emotion. Actual happiness is priceless"..
So, there is happiness(place) and actual happiness(journey)?..
Feb 21 2013: hey mohammad.
Thats an interesting concept. Thanks for that! Perhaps a place, talking metaphysically, can be seen to be happiness itself. Arriving at happiness. Like in the idea of enlightenment. But if we are staying on topic and talking money... Then physically buying your way to a place, whether it be a home, car, new sweater, swimming pool, these tangible objects are not what bring you happiness. Rather the opportunity to be happy. Happiness is in the heart, not in the pocketFeb 14 2013: "Remember that happiness is a way of travel, not a destination"
(Roy M. Goodman)
I have embraced this concept with the heart, mind, every cell in the body, and every breath I take. For what it is worth, I tell you that it changes the dynamics of the life adventure.
Feb 14 2013: Hi Colleen
What make you really happy in this life?..do you mean happinese is a way of thinking..
Feb 14 2013: Hi Mohammad,
I believe it is more a way of "feeling" or "being" and how we feel, is impacted by our thinking....yes? Everything is connected....our thoughts, feelings, and how we use that information contributes to our behaviors...how we act/react, and the outward
manifestation of the life experience, which we then perceive internally....thoughts....feelings....perceptions....behaviors:>)
I prefer using the word content, rather than happy, because the definition of happy suggests more of a fleeting feeling, while contentment suggests more of an underlying, in depth feeling....more of a foundation in my perception.
I am content with the life experience. I KNOW that I will face challenges, and rather than be distressed, upset, angry, etc. with challenges, I face them as an opportunity to learn, grow and evolve, while hopefully contributing to the whole of humankind.
What we focus on expands. Change our thinking, it changes our perceptions and feelings, which may change our life experience....make any sense?
That's why I asked you in another comment if you think your new educational experience may help take you out of your feeling of "struggle" maybe for a little while?Feb 16 2013: Dear Colleen
"I believe it is more a way of "feeling" or "being" and how we feel, is impacted by our thinking....yes? Everything is connected....our thoughts, feelings, and how we use that information contributes to our behaviors...how we act/react, and the outward
manifestation of the life experience, which we then perceive internally....thoughts....feelings....perceptions....behaviors":>)
as far as human behavior is concerned, I think Butterfly affect works more in a Sub-consequence way.. You know nowadays I am in Kuala lumpur.. if you ask me what life is like in Iran?. I would say it is a war. A serious war...yupe..that is why I think about myself as a soldier…It was always there..
I really like this lecture... this is the true fact in Iran. People in Iran call it soft-war...
"I prefer using the word content, rather than happy, because the definition of happy suggests more of a fleeting feeling, while contentment suggests more of an underlying, in depth feeling....more of a foundation in my perception..
I am content with the life experience. I KNOW that I will face challenges, and rather than be distressed, upset, angry, etc. with challenges, I face them as an opportunity to learn, grow and evolve, while hopefully contributing to the whole of humankind.
What we focus on expands. Change our thinking, it changes our perceptions and feelings, which may change our life experience....make any sense"..
I have heard about a guy who spent 30 years in prison. Base on a wrong judgment….people of a country are in prison... deprivations... sanctions....and extremists…
Best RegardsFeb 5 2013: Happiness is subjective. What makes me happy may be diffirent from what makes you happy. For some people, money can sure "buy" them happiness. They use money to acquire material things. These material things give many people the feeling of happiness. But personally, I still believe that 'the best things in life are free'.
Feb 5 2013: i challenge you to name a single thing that is truly free
Feb 5 2013: Hi sir. Love and friendship are things that are truly free. Aren't they?
Mykle Ykle
Feb 5 2013: You have a good point Kenn, but some people like to have their points exposed and have the last word. They might feel like your answer wasn't quite to their standards and simply argue that love and friendship aren't necessarily free since you must have to invest time or some other valuable asset in order to receive love or friendship. This is not my case, I like your answer.Feb 5 2013: not really. they require time, time that you could spend on other things. in a primitive society, you often can not afford love, and many do not get. they can't afford to wait for the right person, or leave the current one that proved itself a mistake. love is quite expensive to find and maintain.Feb 5 2013: I LOVE your perspective Kenn and Mykle:>)
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I bet Krisztián will catch onto this idea one of these days....LOL:>)Feb 5 2013: Dear Krisztián,
Happiness is truly free....it is a choice:>)
Feb 5 2013: Dear Colleen,
Agreed (more than just the word itself)
as Tolstoy says: "If you want to be happy, be" - (as we see here, he didn't mention "...., have"Feb 6 2013: it only goes against common sense and scientific results
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Feb 6 2013: Colleen, sorry about your fall.As an active person, you are likely to have a speedy recovery, I know.
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You raise a point with which I fully agree but which can be elusive. A sense of well-being/contentment/satisfaction runs deeper than the specific events of the moment. In fact those attributes are excellent support for determinedly working to improve things that need fixing or to weather challenges and set-backs.Feb 6 2013: If we are going to assume that "happiness" is defined as a conscious state of well-being and contentment, you cannot say complete happiness is free. All men require fundamental factors to survive -food, water, shelter... Lack of these things do not lead to contentment nor over-all well being. Money and wealth, though, provide access to these things, with some sort of price. According to the study associated with this post, "within individual countries richer people are happier than poorer", and concluding this, as no coincidence. To believe that happiness comes at absolutely no price, is to truly deny the existence of man's basic needs.
I believe that happiness is an individual state of being. Not existent by factors such as love or friendship, (though IS influenced by these things). Happiness exists solely within you. Agreeably, "If you want to be happy, be". In my perspective, this means living in each moment. Taking each moment as it is. Nothing more, and nothing less.
Feb 6 2013: i agree with the first part.
in the second part, this statement "Happiness exists solely within you" is i believe similar to "what you see, exists solely within you". the sense of vision happens in the brain, so this is a true statement. but it is also true that vision is heavily influenced by external stimuli, and that is the reason of it. so it is not a contradiction. happiness is a mental function tat is dependent on many inside and many outside factors.Feb 6 2013: I agree Lorenz....good comment:>)
I also agree with you Krisztián, that "the sense of vision happens in the brain.... also true that vision is heavily influenced by external stimuli, and that is the reason of it. so it is not a contradiction. happiness is a mental function tat is dependent on many inside and many outside factors".
You insightfully recognize, Krisztián, that vision happens in the brain...influenced by external stimuli...happiness is a mental function...dependent on many inside and outside factors".
I suggest that we can use the external/internal influences any way we choose. For example, the reason I stopped commenting on TED yesterday, is because I fell down the stairs in my home.....slipped on the top step and went all the way down to the bottom of 16 steps on my back.
Although I experienced some physical pain, discomfort and bruising, my sense of contentment was not affected. Three friends stopped in the afternoon, brought me lunch, visited, and offered to do some "chores" for me because I was less able to move comfortabley. The circumstances changed my activity for the day, and my underlying feeling of contentment was not affected. I was VERY GRATEFUL that the accident was not worse....I have some discomfort, but can sill move, so nothing is broken. I am grateful for the help of my friends. I focused on healing (heat, ice, ibuprophen, stretching, etc.), and also focused on the love and willingness to help which my friends offered.
So, we do not need to allow external circumstances to cause unhappiness or discontent. We CAN experience a foundation of contentment by using the "mental function", as you insightfully recognize in a different way....make any sense?Feb 6 2013: Krisztián,
This is a reply to your statement..." it only goes against common sense and scientific results"
Which is a reply to my statement.....sorry I couldn't get the reply closer:>)
"Dear Krisztián,
Happiness is truly free....it is a choice:>) "
I respect YOUR beliefs as YOUR beliefs Krisztián, however, to say that my beliefs go against commen sense and scientific results" is not true because LOTS of us recognize the scientific research that is being done on this topic, and there is LOTS of scientific research which supports the idea I offer and experience in each and every moment of my life experience. To me, and a LOT of people, it makes logical, reasonable, common sense, and it's perfectly ok if you choose to not embrace the concept:>)Feb 6 2013: Fritzie, A reply to your comment in sequence was not possible.....I copy it here...hope you find it!
"Fritzie Reisner
Less than 5 minutes ago: Colleen, sorry about your fall.As an active person, you are likely to have a speedy recovery, I know.
You raise a point with which I fully agree but which can be elusive. A sense of well-being/contentment/satisfaction runs deeper than the specific events of the moment. In fact those attributes are excellent support for determinedly working to improve things that need fixing or to weather challenges and set-backs."
Thank you for your kind encouragement Fritzie....I agree that being active helps recovery....being active also causes the body to be more flexible, which I'm grateful for!!!
I wholeheartedly agree that "A sense of well-being/contentment/satisfaction runs deeper than the specific events of the moment... those attributes are excellent support for determinedly working to improve things that need fixing or to weather challenges and set-backs."
That is where I perceive the difference between the use of the words "happiness" and "contentment". Happiness, to me, based on the definition, suggests a more fleeting ( specific events of the moment, as you say) feeling. Whereas, contentment feels deeper to me.......and......I agree......offers the support for working/playing to improve and/or weather challenges. Thanks for putting it in those words Fritzie:>) While the feeling is not elusive to me, the way to explain the feeling sometimes is elusive to me, so thanks for clarifying:>)
Aries Eroles
Feb 1 2013: There was a quotation that simplifies this.
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"Money can't buy happiness, but happiness needs money."
An instance, a musician loves his music. But he can not play his music when he does not have money to buy his instruments.
Ryan soc
Feb 7 2013: I think this is the best answer about the question.
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Money is important to us but it's not enough to buy happiness but necessary.
Happiness is not related any material things.
Tim Petersen
Jan 31 2013: as an amendment to my previous post, I should have stated earlier; since losing everything I 'thought' was important fifteen years ago (money, equipment, and property), along with my first love and children which were by all accounts the very most cherish-able aspects of my existence. I am gaining the wisdom from the pain, wisdom which I think must be the property of the sole-owner, Love, but to often not acquired until we suffer the pain of love, (everything else is knowledge) and this wisdom is teaching me through the understanding of my pain, no amount of money can buy the joy and happiness that I have been fortunate enough to have known at one time, and still lives in my heart and memories.
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Sometimes, in tracing the source of our joy and happiness, the heart is unable to debate against the mind. The mind, operating on past memories and fears of tomorrow has a completely different understanding of joy and happiness. he is only concerned with circumscribing the imaginations of tomorrow brought about by the fears of yesterday. The heart, on the other hand is the one who knows true happiness and joy, the contentment of just living the present, and really being the "being". We must listen closely over the clamor of a fearful mind
You see, I am completely un-able to say it simply...
Jan 31 2013: You haven't wasted your pain.
Thanks for your story, Tim !Feb 6 2013: Hi Tim,
The heart-mind debate is like a minute by minute committee meeting inside ourselves. The mind usually doesn't have time to hear the heart and sometimes the heart takes off and the mind has to deal with the effects. I wonder if this is a side effect of our speedy industrial growth, which makes balancing the two 'in real time' our biggest challenge. The heart knows "happiness comes only from being the being", while the mind has to figure the sustainability for the conditions that support living and " wisdom certainly is the property of the sole-owner " who acquires it through true expense.Feb 9 2013: I think it's up to the individuals perspective I'm sure money can make some people happy maybe truly happy but for others it can't I find my happiness in the constent pursuit of my passion even though I'm broke.
Feb 10 2013: But your not entirely broke are you Daniel? You have enough to feed, cloth and shelter yourself from the elements right?
How much does your passion cost each month?
Feb 10 2013: Your right I'm not ENTIRELY broke. I live check to check and fall behind some months but I have shelter. The cost of my passion varies if I have a good month I'll spend about 120 on my love :)
Feb 10 2013: Honest answer. I've been there.
I'm just able to save a few bucks each month, but it grows. I'm not so sure we have to love money but we sure have to appreciate it's worth to us.
Is there anything more convenient and effective to facilitate trade or transactions between two or more people?Feb 10 2013: Couldn't agree with you more John. As for your question I don't know but your question would make a hell of a Ted conversation!
Feb 10 2013: I think I remember someone broaching such a question a while back. I forget if there were any mutual conclusions. It crops up from time to time on TED.
It does make one think however. Moneys both convenient and expedient. In fact we don't even need money anymore, just value and a plastic card. The difference is: if you lose your value in a dramatic bank failure you have no net worth unless you can prove you own assets. Money (the paper kind) is a kind of document that lists your value at a moment, usually the amount of money you have in your possession. Without money I guess a persons value is defined by their earning potential to themselves or someone else.Feb 10 2013: Barter, which a LOT of folks in this area do all the time. We all have skills, talents, and material goods which we can trade......works pretty well:>)Feb 16 2013: Money has little to do with being happy. Being happy is a choice, it is perspective and the ability to make the best out of what you have, little or a lot. More money can equal more problems, it is only part of your happiness if you choose for it to be. Choosing happiness = happiness. Anyone who is having a bad day I suggest you force yourself to laugh for 5 minutes, right out of the blue, get a few people to do it with you. You will likely end up laughing for real and will feel better. Choose it :-)
Feb 17 2013: YES! It is indeed a choice, and laughter is good medicine.....well said Mathew:>)
"Be happy with what you have and you will have plenty to be happy about..."
(Irish proverb)
Jared Kent
Feb 15 2013: yes...and no...Money is a small part in the make up of happiness just as knowledge is a small part in the make up of wisdom. On a side note: We are far too obsessed with money in our world. Everyone realizes money is something we as humans created out of thin air.
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Feb 15 2013: Yes! I couldn't have said it better.
Jesus Zuazo
Feb 15 2013: Hello Mohammad:
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People with truly real problems like a war, hunger, diseases live with a pain and sadness in their hearts, then a little bit of light make them feel happy, but happiness shared the heart with sadness. With money can improve their status, buying food, take care of theirs ilness, scape from wars etc... as they can eliminate truly worries more place to happiness ... Beware with the money because as it can buy happines it can buy worries too.
Thanks to share...Feb 7 2013: Let's look at Maslow's Hirearchy of needs and satisfaction to determine the answer. First is physiological needs (food, water, clean air, etc.). So on the first level yes money can buy those things. Second stage is Safety needs (housing, clothes, etc.), and money can buy those as well. Third is love and belonging. I think in some cases money can buy this because being in a relationship is expensive and more people will be inclined to hang around you and include you if you can bring money and goods to the table(look at celebs and their friendship rings if you disagree). So, I'd say about 50/50 on this one. Fourth is Esteem. This is tricky because having money does increase self-esteem (this is a proven fact with research studies), but this also has to do with personality so I would say 75/25 money is included in this. Lastly is self-transcendence (go beyond one's ideal self, more of a spiritual thing and very difficult to achieve.) This one has nothing to do with money at all and all has to do with a person. I would say people feel happy when 3 of these things are full so when looking at this I think money can buy 4 of the 5 things in here. So in conclusion, yes money can buy happiness, but it cannot buy complete satisfaction with one's self.
Feb 7 2013: i think you are oversimplifying the maslow hierarchy. the 4th stage is not "esteem", but more than that: it is status, recognition, fame, prestige, and attention as well as strength, competence, mastery, self-confidence, independence, and freedom, as wikipedia lists. many of those are heavily dependent on money. either directly, or through the time required to achieve these, time that could be spent on earning money.
and the 5th stage may be expressed in paintings, pictures, or inventions, says wiki, but may i add discovery, creation of something worthwhile, something remarkable. this is directly money dependent in many ways. my previous example was james cameron, who spends huge sums on deep sea expeditions, for example recently visited the mariana trench.
Feb 8 2013: You are correct, I did just simplify it to make it more easily read, but that is the overview without the technical jargon, but you are right. When we look at this hirearchy money really can buy happiness and I think this is the best measurement of happiness we can find. I do not know how much you know about Maslow, but his research has impacted many fields in business leadership, psychology, and education just to name a few. This is the most accurate, scientific description of this emotion, and I think it proves money can make a person happier.
Feb 14 2013: Hi Eric
Do you really think that money can buy happiness?..
so, the richer you are, the happier you are.?...Feb 14 2013: Yes I really do. my family has had times where we did not know where our next meal was coming from and the stress of that insecurity is unbelievable. Anyone who has been in that situation can understand and it is almost unbearable. Now, I am lucky enough to be a little more stable and that relaxed pressure is a completely different world. We can look at this hirearchy all we want, but real world is where it counts and money can relieve a lot of stress. Your worries are less, and instead of deciding how to pay for that box of ramen noodles you need, you can decide which video game to buy. I have a unique point of view because I have seen both sides of the situation and having money really raises your contentment and happiness.
Feb 15 2013: It doesn't sound, Eric, like you are saying that people with great material wealth are happier than those with less. It sounds like you are saying, rather, that having a certain amount of money so that you don't have to worry about food, shelter, and other vitals is necessary before you have the mental space to be happy.Feb 9 2013: Eric, you stole my idea. About a year ago I wrote exactly what you said but in story-form and in russian;)Jan 31 2013: One of my favorite speakers at TED, Daniel Kahneman made the following claim involving a Gallop survey:
" We found that with respect to the happiness of the experiencing self. When we looked at how feelings, vary with income. And it turns out that, below an income of 60,000 dollars a year, for Americans -- and that's a very large sample of Americans, like 60,000, so it's a large representative sample -- below an income of 60,000 dollars a year.. people are unhappy, and they get progressively unhappier the poorer they get. Above that, we get an absolutely flat line. I mean I've rarely seen lines so flat. Clearly, what is happening is money does not buy you experiential happiness, but lack of money certainly buys you misery, and we can measure that misery very, very clearly. In terms of the other self, the remembering self, you get a different story. The more money you earn, the more satisfied you are."
Feb 6 2013: " Below an income of $60,000 per year people are unhappy "
~ Daniel Kahneman
Feb 6 2013: Yes, it is $60,000 and not 600,000. I do remember Kahneman making this error, but I copied the text exactly as it was in the transcript. I have edited the comment now since I have explained the correction here..
Feb 6 2013: Thanks:-)regards.
William Vail
Jan 30 2013: Give this a thought, you see an old lady struggling with her shopping bags,so you feel you want to help her. You then pick up her bags and help her reach her home. She then offers you some money, which will make you more happier taking the money or refusing to take the money? Someone very important once said "there is more happiness in giving than in receiving " in my case I get more happiness in helping someone for nothing than I would if they paid me.
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Feb 4 2013: Thanks for sharing. I used to work at a retirement home a few years ago and there was this one resident with whom I became very close to at some point offered me a large sum of money (around 300 dollars), which came as a surprise to me. Although she had the right intentions (it was to fund for my education) and as generous as the offer was, I had it reported and returned to her for reasons that I would be held responsible for any financial loss that any resident may have in that facility. I couldn't refuse it then because she kept insisting that I keep it. Besides, it was against policy to accept money from residents regardless of what purpose and I can honestly say, I was more concerned about my own safety than future opportunities.
I, too, would refuse the money if I was given something like $20 just for helping an old lady with her bags. I've had to do that with my previous jobs and considering that I get PAID already, doing that for free is no big deal and it's the least we can do for people we encounter once in a while, right? I don't believe that it's being ungrateful but I do know some people who find it to be incredibly rude to refuse their money as a tip and so at times I had to. I'm glad you brought up this point. :)Feb 16 2013: As a matter of fact, in the current society money does buy happiness. Every minute.
Whoever says the contrary shall cut down his entire in/out flows of money from his life starting from tomorrow, just to see how much his happiness really depends on that. Oh, you should obviously not lean against anything you purchased with money in the past, of course. That would be cheating: instead of relying on a purchase made today, you rely on a purchase made in the past. Nor lean against the money or possession of other people, naturally.
Don't want to call it money? Call it possession, acquisition, ownership.
Of course there are psychological and spiritual aspects to be considered too, since humans with a *certain* level of acquired happiness can start living on a different level of existence. But why does this topic always go so very far away from the real human being who is speaking? It looks like it's so damn easy to forget who we are and what we are doing in our every single day.
And before pointing out that "what you buy is not true happiness but basilar needs", note that:
- unsatisfied basilar needs = TRUE unhappiness, I guarantee you by experience.
- you're just stating that *for you* those basilar needs are no more enough to feel happy. I know people who would be filled with immense joy for several days in your place.
Naive? Yes. But sometimes one has to be like that, when idealization goes so far away from reality.
Of course if you happen to have just too much money for your own real need of happiness, then the statement "money doesn't buy happiness" is magically true. But now you should know what to do with your surplus: give it away. Unless you're a penny pincher! ;-)
>> This post is an intellectual provocation, and should be taken as such. No one really expects human beings from being so pure to really become consistent to this simple truth. And I purposely neglected other important aspects involved, many of which already on this page.
Feb 17 2013: However, many people who barely have the means to meet their basic needs happen to be extremely happy. It's a choice, being hungry to the point of pain is uncomfortable, scary, etc. However, the choice remains it's just harder to make. Once basic needs (not wants) are met happiness becomes an easier choice if you want it too.Feb 17 2013: Dear Robert,
I say that money does not buy happiness, and you suggest that a person who believes this "cut down his entire in/out flows of money from his life starting from tomorrow, just to see how much his happiness really depends on that."
I planned well for retirement, so I would be comfortable, and because of our economic situation, I am now at poverty level. My money "in/out flow" was cut down considerabley because of loss of investments. I'm still very happy/content. I was a happy/content person before the financial challenge, I am a happy/content person in the present moment, and will be a happy/content person in the future because I KNOW it is a choice.
You say..."It looks like it's so damn easy to forget who we are and what we are doing in our every single day."
I suggest that if we forget who we are and what we are doing in our every single day, then we can indeed get lost in the idea that money buys happiness. I also suggest that when we KNOW who and what we are, we make choices regarding whether we want to be happy/content in each and every day.
You say your comment is an "intellectual provocation", even though you present it "As a matter of fact".
Who would this "matter of fact...intellectual provocation" be for my friend? Yourself?
Feb 17 2013: Dear Mrs. Steen,
I'm absolutely supportive for your own situation and sharing the understanding of the point of view you're proposing. Please, do not be deceived by the sour and pinch tone I've used on purpose, as I said it was intended as a provocation aiming to hit a particular aspect of the topic.
Reading your kind reply, I would say that you're not so far away from my real (unsaid) point of view, and I like that. At the same time, I recognize that I've failed to make you see through this particular keyhole.
I doesn't really matter anyway.
My best wishes for your days to come
Robert :)
Feb 17 2013: Dear Robert,
I do not feel "deceived" at all, and I've peeked through many "keyholes" of understanding during my life adventure:>)
How about sharing your "real (unsaid) point of view"? It DOES matter Robert....to me anyway....because I enjoy discussing what is "real", and I am aware that our perception of "real" may be different for each and every one of us at any given time:>)Feb 25 2013: Hi Colleen Steen,I do like to see your sincere comments here.A very good conversation between you and Robert here.Thanks:)
Feb 25 2013: Thank you Edulover:>) Respectful comments, from which we can all learn, are GREAT.....in my humble perception:>)Feb 15 2013: In today's economy, it may appear that money can buy happiness due to the overwhelming amount of people that are struggling financially. However, if we closely examine our happiness, we'll find that material possessions bring only temporary satisfaction. When your iPad is out of sight, it is also out of mind. When your honey, daughter, or best friend is out of sight, your heart feels a yearning for that person. We're social creatures, and we rise depending on our relationships with others. I guarantee you, a person who has no material possessions but is involved in a loving relationship will value his/her life much more than a person who's only "relationship" is with his/her money. We need to be able to distinguish the difference between temporary and lifelong satisfactions. Can money enhance your soul? Not a chance.
gaya belloul
Feb 13 2013: beeing happy, don't need noney any more, all it need is being in the places you like, with the ones you like, there are person's, whom are happy when feeling pain ( masochist) others when watching TV for example, there is no standard happiness and there is no cost for hapiness we can laugh all the day without paying a pound. as we can spend millions in the day searching for happiness and being sad inside. do you think that all the stars we see daily in TV for example are happy. I think that the most of them are not. We can be happy for so raisons, hapiness doesn't depend on money, but in person's. me I found my hapiness when I am with my family and friends.
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Feb 13 2013: Hi Gaya
Interesting perspective….
you know there are too many poems in farsi about that..
but I think, if you want to be in the places you like, with the ones you like...you have to spend "good money"....?..
gaya belloul
Feb 16 2013: Hi Mohammad,
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Hope if had been able to understand that poems, your speaking about,
when I say the place and the persons you want to be; I don't mean that I want to be in Las Vegas or in Paris , all want to have is a safe and quiet place, a place can't give you pleasure the only thing that can really make you happy is the ones with whom you are. if you had seen the movie called "into the wild" you will certainly remember what he sad at the end of the movie, he sad :" there is no happiness without sharing " I really never feel more pleasure than I have when talking with some persons. so do I need to go elsewhere I or beeing with somebody I have to pay to be with me.
John Wright
Feb 11 2013: I think that the way in which you use your money can make you happy. For instance, if you were living in poverty there is a great chance that you will be unhappy about certain things that some money could solve. You would want food, shelter, and clothing. Having money would solve these issues and eliminate that unhappiness. As we accumulate more and more wealth we tend to accumulate more problems. Many of us let it get to our heads and therefore we perceive more problems. Often the people around us can add to these problems to. If you accumulated a great deal of wealth and donated some of it to a family in need this would most likely make you quite happy. If you were to spend it all on drugs and then became a drug addict you may not be happy. It is all about a successful allocation network. Where you put your money to work can really influence how happy you become.Feb 10 2013: Money, on itself can never give happiness or joy unless you have a complimenting attitude when it comes to using your money for buying happiness. As it would explain, an unhappy soul cannot be satisfied with fancy dinners, expensive holidays, luxury clothing etc.However, such things might make you feel better for a while. When saying this, I agree with Leo Taylor when he explains the transitory and permanent states of happiness.
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Money with all its powers and magic, is only capable of buying a suitable environment, those perfect conditions and setup for your heart and mind to start feeling happiness. I have personally seen and known people, who have been happy in their lives in the longer run even if many phases of their lives has been a struggle for survival.
Also, the happiness that comes without any influence of money is far more divine than what money can buy.
Leo Taylor
Feb 10 2013: Perhaps we need to better define happiness. As I ponder happiness and the questions of happiness I am analyzing a new way of looking at the concept. It occurs to me that we may be discussing two very different aspects of happiness. One is a transitory state. At any given moment one can be sad, amused, joyous, angry, tired, envious, and even happy. I am beginning to understand that in regards to happiness we, as a society, may be intermixing the transitory state of happiness with the concept of happiness in regards to how we view are lives, or personality as a whole. To say a person is a happy person is NOT the same as saying that person is in an emotional state of happiness at this very moment. Perhaps they are generally a happy person, but at this moment are suffering from a death in the family.
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So, does money buy happiness? You mean the long term general state we would define as a happy life or person? Perhaps not, but will it affect that transitory state we call happiness? Perhaps yes, but then I think we would need to also add other transitory emotions that are affected by using money such as joy, anticipation, buyers remorse, etc
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Feb 15 2013: What you write is absolutely consistent with the research on the matter.
baali omar
Feb 9 2013: hello Mohammed,
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I think that when we're talking about society the money plays an important role and has a direct impact on making the population feel the happiness and the satisfaction,it's important to mention that in the rich societies there are a lot of facilities and entertainment and this contribute on reducing the leisure of the population and this lead to the bliss , however in poor countries the life style is always the same and the population don't find ways to spend their time and as you know 'nature abhors a vacuum' so the people in this case are going to fill this vacuum with delinquency violence.
Feb 10 2013: ..rich societies there are a lot of facilities and entertainment and this contribute on reducing the leisure of the population and this lead to the bliss ...
I live in a rich society but I can't afford to enjoy the products of that rich society. I make just enough to not be poor. I can't attend the opera even though I love classical music because a ticket cost $100.00. If I took my wife it would be $200.00. That is well beyond my means for us to help support the classics. So who is supporting them? The rich are. Where did the rich get all that money when they don't do any work to make that money? They invest the money they have. How does one get money to invest? They inherit it or their family hires them at a very high salary to perform a job they are not competent to preform. Not always but it happens often enough.
Capitalism destroys the earth. Socialism maintains it and puts something back.
Feb 15 2013: I know this is a minor thing, but if you are able to volunteer in some way for the Opera, that may be a way to go to the performances. I know many seniors enjoy shows in the city by volunteering to hand out programs or take tickets.
Feb 16 2013: You are correct.... the local college is allowing me and wife to attend all plays.
Very good advice Fritzie.
I think I'll call atlanta and see what they can offer.Feb 7 2013: I think everyone realizes money can't buy everything. Health, friendship, family, and community are the responsibility of the individual to some degree. I think many people are discoering the bliss of simple living- less consumerism more self autonomy.Feb 6 2013: Happiness occurs on different levels based on the individual. For some it is extremely monetary. The more they have the more things they purchase or do, creating a sense of happiness. For others it is sense of ownership or pride in what they do or have accomplished in their lives. Some people gravitate towards family or religion in search of happiness while others move out to the country in search of privacy and peace. Personally, I believe happiness to be a mixture of several things, money being one of those items. The other major contributing factors for me are enjoying what I do for a living, enjoying the people in my life, and the many different experiences I have had, good or bad, thus far. Obviously degrees of happiness can certainly vary or become more challenging to obtain depending on a person's environment, however, again, happiness to me is like a fingerprint; it is different for each person. Great conversation. Thanks for sharing.
Feb 14 2013: Hi Nicholas
"I believe happiness to be a mixture of several things, money being one of those items. The other major contributing factors for me are enjoying what I do for a living, enjoying the people in my life, and the many different experiences I have had, good or bad"
Q1. How do you classify your experiences? How do you enjoy your "bad experience"?
"happiness to me is like a fingerprint"..?..could you shed light on your idea?
RegardsFeb 6 2013: money may not buy you happiness but it sure pays the bills.Feb 2 2013: money can buy bed but not sleep. it is a tool for recreation and comforts besides entertainment. happiness is not external. it is with in. it is state of mind. happiness is in limitation. it is possible only with spiritual consciousness. one dollar is a bless to beggar, but it has no sense to million ere.
Kareem Fahim
Jan 31 2013: Depends...
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Are all rich people happy? Nope. Shrinks have a lot of rich clients with stress [some even suicide]
Would poor people be happy if given money? Yes, as their necessities would be covered and they will be 'happy'
I say true happiness is in remembering The Creator and spreading love and joy to whole world [It might sound Muslim/Hippie combo but that's what a man would tell you who has lived 80-odd years and is about to die]
So people don't stress yourself for this world and love your loved ones. This life is a gift! :)
My 2 cents :P
Don Anderson
Jan 30 2013: Can Money Buy Happiness?
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Money (and Good health) is to happiness, as flower is to cake.
Although flower is an ingredient used to make a common cake, it is not the only ingredient needed.
And can make a flowerless cake, just not a common type of cake.
You can be poor and unhealthy and still find happiness or you rich and healthy and still be unhappy, each of us has the power to find happiness. But sadly too many of us don't realize that.Jan 30 2013: I think you have to define happiness, for some happiness may be to own a 100 story building in Manhattan - in which case you would need a lot of money to buy your happiness. For others could be the opportunity to say "I'm sorry" to their mother before she died, which there is no money that can bring her back.
I agree we the need a quantifiable vehicle (money) to exchange goods; but is the capacity to get more goods what make us happy or is the good itself what make us happy?Jan 27 2013: Maybe money can buy happiness, but is it happiness we are after ?
What is happiness ? Has anybody noticed that the word ' happiness' sounds sad ?
There is something deceptive about it.
I guess, what we need is JOY, moments of joy and we can have it for nothing , for 'no thing'.
If you have it, you have it, if not , no money will ever help you.
Jan 28 2013: Hi Natasha
"What is happiness ?"
Happiness is a mental or emotional state of well-being characterized by positive or pleasant emotions ranging from contentment to intense joy. A variety of biological, psychological, religious, and philosophical approaches have striven to define happiness and identify its sources. Various research groups, including positive psychology, endeavor to apply the scientific method to answer questions about what "happiness" is, and how it might be attained. Philosophers and religious thinkers often define happiness in terms of living a good life, or flourishing, rather than simply as an emotion. Happiness in this sense was used to translate the Greek Eudaimonia, and is still used in virtue ethics. Happiness economics suggests that measures of public happiness should be used to supplement more traditional economic measures when evaluating the success of public policy.
"Has anybody noticed that the word ' happiness' sounds sad?"
I don't.
"I guess, what we need is JOY, moments of joy and we can have it for nothing , for 'no thing'."
If you have it, you have it, if not , no money will ever help you"
So, Joy is something Intrinsic?
Jan 28 2013: Hi, Mohammad !
Wiki happiness can be bought and it may be quite cheap, it depends upon the expectations.
Don't take me wrong i don't mean to belittle the importance of having enough money to meet our needs. We all swim in this ocean. But the less needs one has the richer and in this particular sense happier he/she is.
Is joy intrinsic/ innate ?
I guess , yes. Children are naturally joyful till the age of 2,3 , no matter how rich their parents are ; all they need is love. But then ego starts to grow and joy is the price for the process of growing up. Some loose it completely, some ( the lucky ) still have it no matter what, some gain it back . It's like coming back to the garden after years of wandering. It's not waiting for the future or anticipating enlightenment , joy is the feeling that this life , this flawed perfection is sufficient and complete in every single moment.
Something like this ... :)
Jan 30 2013: Hi Natasha"Wiki happiness can be bought and it may be quite cheap, it depends upon the expectations. Don't take me wrong i don't mean to belittle the importance of having enough money to meet our needs. We all swim in this ocean. But the less needs one has the richer and in this particular sense happier he/she is."
So, we all agree that money should cover up our wants, but our need?!..
.Q. Regarding your perspective, what are the needs of a perfect life (that are not related to the money)?Jan 31 2013: I have no idea what 'perfect life ' is.
Sorry !
W. Ying
Feb 13 2013: Hi, Natasha,
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Happiness is the short-time feeling of things being a-step-better for keeping our DNA alive.
(Please see also my comment herein above (Jan. 28, 2013))
Feb 13 2013: Yes, but it's like : to live to eat , i'd prefer to eat to live :)Feb 27 2013: Money doesn't buy happiness, it buys comfort. When you're not worried about rent or food, you can focus your attention on what really makes you passionate and happy. However, sometimes you become addicted to building a higher living comfortability, and that is when it will never make you happy.Feb 27 2013: Money doesn't buy you happiness. It buys you security, a peace of mind.
Tom Crosby
Feb 21 2013: The thought occurred to me the other day that money allows more people to survive. Most people are very far removed from a homesteading lifestyle that allows them to survive through their direct interaction with the land/sea/atmosphere., so money is the system that sustains their existence. Several comments below speak to individual happiness being a matter of outlook, but first basic needs must be met. There are several theories that relate to the evolution of a well balanced life and happiness (Maslow, Erickson .. to name a couple), and these start with ones meeting basic needs and developing a feeling of security. My initial thought linking money to population increase took me to the weird thought that the money that provides the basic needs and security that form the platform from which happiness can be constructed for the millions of people who work in war related industries brings misery to millions of other people.
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Feb 25 2013: Dear Tom
I love your perspective...
"took me to the weird thought that the money that provides the basic needs and security that form the platform from which happiness can be constructed for the millions of people who work in war related industries brings misery to millions of other people."
Kind regardsFeb 19 2013: True happiness comes from the natural joy that is in all people at birth. As we face more unhappy events, that natural joy diminishes. The negative we face, blinds us to our true joyfull, loving nature and our mind becomes filled with confusion. We can re-find our inner joy by getting free if the past infuences, which is done by focusing on the present, existing as a part of the One Life, rather than all of a temporary self. Peace is now. Love is now. Joy is now.
An enlightened person, aware of their essence is consciuos present time Being can only be peaceful, loving and Joyful
Feb 25 2013: Hi David Hubbard,I agree what u said.Being the things we have now,that's the most important:).
Feb 25 2013: "Being the things we have now"
Is it!...?..
Feb 25 2013: yes,and stay in being to enjoy life now.recommend a spiritual book to u:the power of now.wish u like it.:)Feb 25 2013: "True happiness comes from the natural joy that is in all people at birth"
büşra abc
Feb 17 2013: First of all, we must to talk about resource of happiness. I think, main resource of it is inner peace and emotional calm and they derive from spirituality. If a person gets satisfactory answers to his or her questions about life and death, this provides him resource of happiness. In addition, if he has a good family and friends, they all increase the happines. Then, -regarding the main question- money is a part of happiness. With money, you can buy somethings that make you, family and friends happy, take care of your health and etc. Thus, your happines increases.
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In conclusion, only money can not buy it but it can increase, I think.
Feb 25 2013: 'only money can not buy it but it can increase',to some extent,it is right.but money can destory happiness too.So well-educated is the most important.If people don't know where comes the happiness yet.It is the time to push u back to study.Feb 25 2013: what shall we study edulover?...!....what are your educational resources?
gale kooser
Feb 16 2013: No! But neither can the lack of money. It's all in how you live within your means. Many here have given you wonderful ans. & I agree with most.
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Evaluating patients suspected of having celiac disease, including patients with compatible clinical symptoms, patients with atypical symptoms, and individuals at increased risk (family history, previous diagnosis with associated disorder, positivity for HLA DQ2 and/or DQ8)
Screening test for dermatitis herpetiformis, in conjunction with endomysial antibody test
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Celiac disease (gluten-sensitive enteropathy, celiac sprue) results from an immune-mediated inflammatory process following ingestion of wheat, rye, or barley proteins that occurs in genetically susceptible individuals. The inflammation in celiac disease occurs primarily in the mucosa of the small intestine, which leads to villous atrophy. Common clinical manifestations related to gastrointestinal inflammation include abdominal pain, malabsorption, diarrhea, and constipation. Clinical symptoms of celiac disease are not restricted to the gastrointestinal tract. Other common manifestations of celiac disease include failure to grow (delayed puberty and short stature), iron deficiency, recurrent fetal loss, osteoporosis, chronic fatigue, recurrent aphthous stomatitis (canker sores), dental enamel hypoplasia, and dermatitis herpetiformis. Patients with celiac disease may also present with neuropsychiatric manifestations including ataxia and peripheral neuropathy, and are at increased risk for development of non-Hodgkin lymphoma. The disease is also associated with other clinical disorders including thyroiditis, type I diabetes mellitus, Down syndrome, and IgA deficiency.
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The treatment for celiac disease is maintenance of a gluten-free diet. In most patients who adhere to this diet, levels of associated autoantibodies decline and villous atrophy improves. This is typically accompanied by an improvement in clinical symptoms.
See Celiac Disease Diagnostic Testing Algorithm in Special Instructions for the recommended approach to a patient suspected of celiac disease.
An algorithm is available for monitoring the patient's response to treatment, see Celiac Disease Routine Treatment Monitoring Algorithm in Special Instructions.
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The finding of tissue transglutaminase (tTG)-IgA antibodies is specific for celiac disease and possibly for dermatitis herpetiformis. For individuals with moderately to strongly positive results, a diagnosis of celiac disease is likely and the patient should undergo biopsy to confirm the diagnosis.
If patients strictly adhere to a gluten-free diet, the unit value of IgA-anti-tTG should begin to decrease within 6 to 12 months of onset of dietary therapy.
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This test should not be solely relied upon to establish a diagnosis of celiac disease. It should be used to identify patients who have an increased probability of having celiac disease and in whom a small intestinal biopsy is recommended.
Affected individuals who have been on a gluten-free diet prior to testing may have a negative result.
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1. Green PH, Cellier C: Celiac disease. N Engl J Med 2007;357:1731-1743
2. Harrison MS, Wehbi M, Obideen K: Celiac disease: More common than you think. Cleve Clinic J Med 2007;74:209-215
3. Rose C, Dieterich W, Brocker EB, et al: Circulating autoantibodies to tissue transglutaminase differentiate patients with dermatitis herpetiformis from those with linear IgA disease. J Am Acad Dermatol 1999;41:957-961
4. Dale JC, Homburger HA, Masoner DE, Murray JA: Update on celiac disease: New standards and new tests. Mayo Communique 2008;33.6:1-9

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- Jayprakash Shet
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Is it possible to provide a healthy meal at Rs.5/- around 10 cents ?
Today we see lot of food wastage all around the world. At one end we see tons of food is wasted & at other we see millions of people sleep everyday without a good healthy meal. Can we bridge this huge gap ?
We are mass producing thousands of products to make them accessible to millions of people. why can't we do that in food sector , bring down the price & let it be available to needy hungry people all over the world ?
Apr 7 2013: I was just wondering if all the cold drinks manufacturers like Pepsi, Coke make bottles with wide neck instead of narrow neck, they can be utilized for a very cheap source of packaging the food, as they are in fact air tight & sturdy containers.Apr 7 2013: I was just thinking..
One food that tends to meet a large portion of dietary requirements is brown rice
Perhaps this would add to the subject?
Seeing as the food can be easily contained for long periods of time, is light weight and can suit the climate of a number of countries local and within the most problematic areas with this issue (simple and quick transport).
I believe rice is also the most abundant food source already in countries such as India.
Its not quite food-distribution on a global scale, but it would immediately provide an easily affordable food source (atleast 2/3 of a healthy meal).
I eat it myself on a daily basis, almost solely with just a small few spoonfulls of flavouring, so its not a double standard as to what poorer people would be expected to eat either.
Apr 7 2013: Thanks for your inputs. Yes, rice is one of the main staple food as far as India is concerned. We consume rice daily. In many other parts of the world also rice is one of the main item of daily meal. But unfortunately the price of rice now a days have risen very sharply. Wheat also can be considered as not only it is available at half price of rice but also provides more strength. Wheat is also consumed on daily basis. If this is coupled with green leafy vegetables with the help of some good replicable technology at village level, I think nobody will sleep without a healthy meal.Apr 7 2013: One area that researchers have been pursuing is supplementing the rice at the level of the miller with micronutrients. Even in India, my understanding is that hunger is typically less about having enough calories at this point and more about missing key micronutrients such as iron.
W. Ying
Apr 6 2013: .My answer
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It is if:
(1) The weather is good,
(2) The invalid happiness is excluded.
(For details, see the 1st article, points 3,12(1), at
Apr 7 2013: Thanks for your input and article but frankly speaking I could not get any answer to my question. Can you please elaborate further ?
W. Ying
Apr 9 2013: Thanks. It is my pleasure!
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Our life goal is to keep our DNA alive
(rather than for invalid happiness).
Our eating is for this goal
(rather than for invalid taste).
We are instinctively herbivores
(rather than carnivores or omnivores).
Good weather makes vegetable food priced > USD0.10/meal.
(e.g. in rural China)
(link ibid)
Apr 9 2013: Good weather makes vegetable food priced > USD0.10/meal.. We are here to find how this can be sustained even if there is no good weather.Apr 5 2013: A healthy meal in its entirety for 10c?
Probably not an adequate meal, but to determine a practical cost one would need a point of reference for Indias cost of living (assuming we start with India), so next time you're in a larger supermarket and local market..
1. Find out the lowest price for a can of un-branded beans
2. The lowest cost for a bowl of rice (roughly, given the size of the bag)
3. A package of fruit/vegetable seeds (any).
A point of reference would give an idea on production costs of the items in question
(I've worked extensively in the retail and food sectors).
Apr 5 2013: Welcome to this conversation & thanks for your valuable inputs. Well, if we refer to "super market" or " can of un-branded beans" or " package of fruit or vegetable" it will be highly impossible to bring down the final cost. But yes, if we refer to local market produce in bulk, I think we can manage. In many places a meal is being served locally at around 25 cents. What I am thinking is can we provide some kind of simple technology ( which can be replicated easily) input by which, the food can be preserved more & transported easily at a cheaper rate ?
I have seen in many villages, sometimes the vegetables fetch such a low price that it barely covers transportation charges to the nearby market. All the inputs - time, water, seeds, final produce, their labor - everything goes to waste. Really bad scenario ! and on other end people sleep without a meal. So it is not lack of food but proper distribution at right time is the main problem.Apr 4 2013: Jayprakash I admire what you are trying to do. My limited knowledge is about the food banks in America. Problems are becoming worse now. One blessing is the food lunch progam which was implemented at the behest of the military. If you don't feed a kid, he'll never be a good soldier or sailor.
Apr 5 2013: Yes! Proper food is very much an essential part of any human being ! and if some portions of global population is deprived of that then it affects whole society. "If you don't feed a kid, he'll never be a good soldier or sailor. " Also he might not be a good human being - which is not good for other fellow human beings.
I still remember reading about an experiment where a couple of dears were transported on a remote island. The number grew. Food for all of them was enough but as their population breached the holding capacity of island, food became scarce and their social structure started crumbling. There were more fights, more stress....
I think we should learn from this experiment & start taking steps before it is too late.Apr 4 2013: Dear Jayprakash, no it is is not possible to provide a healthy meal at Rs. 5/-
About a year ago I conducted an experiment, inspired by the idea a friend gave me. The challenge was to live on Rs. 30/- per day for all food and drink for a week. I pulled it off but barely. Lost 4 kgs by the way. I am sure I could not have survived a month.
Apr 5 2013: Well, I think what you did was to experiment alone. What I am suggesting is that with the help of present technology and on a large scale it seems possible. In Ahmedabad there are a few special small hotels who provide meals to poor at Rs.5/- . If they can do it on a small scale basis, I think with some technological inputs & some brain storming, it may be possible to provide a healthy meal to many needy persons.
Apr 5 2013: That's great. But can you indicate whether these hotels provide meals at Rs. 5/- as a business or charity? Subsidies won't help, I think. If wholesome meals with basic nutritional values can be provided at Rs.5/- as a successful private business model, I am interested to know about it.
Silent hunger is more devastating than just hunger. A human being requires properly balanced nutritional diet between six months of age to 18 years or the growth may be stunted. It may result in lower brain mass, lean muscle and deficient vital functions. Such a person can still be alive but will produce lower socially.
Apr 5 2013: It is a business, though it services mainly poor & laborers. There are around five to six hotels in Laldarwaja area of Ahmedabad. This is the heart of old city. These hotels are there for nearly 50-60 years. This proves its success. Ya. you are right, subsidies won't help. I do agree on that and that is why I am looking for technological answer that can bridge this huge food gap. Instead of putting more & more resources for food production, if we can find some good cheap way to preserve & transport food from production to end user, we can ensure that our precious resources like water & productive land can be free & productive for many many years.
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Apr 4 2013: Ya, I think some kind of cheap technology should be there at the point of food production so that food is preserved as soon as it is produced. This will not only help to lengthen the self life but also will help to distribute it to distant locations.
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Apr 5 2013: Here also it is more or less same but the question is for some families not here in India but almost all countries this percentage is very high almost 40 to 50%. It is for them if we can do something without any more significant inputs ( like free lunch, donation.. etc), it will be better not only for them but for us also.Apr 3 2013: Jayprakash, are you familiar with the Poverty Action Lab at MIT? It is a research group involving an international group of scholars who study issues that include hunger (but also health care and other challenges) and cost-effective means of addressing them.
Do check out that website (J-PAL). Their finding is that, looking at people who are not specifically in war-torn areas, so that would include many of those living on the equivalent of less than$1 per day in India, China... the challenge is not so much adequate calories but rather micronutrients. They have studied strategies that work, and that don't, for increasing take-up of micronutrients, cleaning water, using mosquito nets, getting kids vaccinated, and so forth.
Apr 4 2013: Thanks for your information. I checked out the website . They are doing their bit, but unfortunately I did not find any thing related to prevention of food wastage, am I missing something ?
Apr 4 2013: They are not involved in prevention of food wastage and transfer to those who need it. They are involved, though, in the question you posed of what an efficient means is of getting families to consume adequate nutritious food.
Apr 5 2013: Thanks.Apr 3 2013: no we can't, or rather yes we can. no we can't in the short run. food is so cheap in the west relative to income because the income is high. the income is high because we have more capital, which makes our work more effective. a westerner can easily produce tens of dollars with an hour of work, with all the machines, computers, cars and good tools. the same person in india can produce a few cents per hour with his hands and not too good tools, rickshaws and such. and yes we can, because we can make capital. that is the essence of the economy. we work to make our work easier and more productive in the future. we accumulate capital. so if you want people to have abundant healthy food, you need to have a look at capital formation. what hinders it? why capital is not forming? how can we make it forming sooner? there are many factors to it, one of them is obstructions to free trade. get rid of it right now, because trade barriers hurt the poor people of the world. get rid of agricultural subsidies in US and EU. get rid of tariffs. get rid of ridiculous safety and "consumer protection" regulations. let products flow all around the globe, and see the poor regions get richer in no time.
Apr 3 2013: I think the question has been misunderstood. I am not asking why a person can not get a healthy meal in India. I do not think this is problem only in India. It is global. Even in US & EU there are millions of people who do not get proper meal every day. Also your vision about India is not what it should be. I do agree that there is income difference but here I am not asking for the ways to increase income so that food becomes cheaper comparatively- affordable to waste.
The idea -" because I can afford - it is dirt cheap " is the main cause of wastage of any kind of resources of our mother earth. And this leads to more & more exploitation of these resources. What I am asking is how this wastage can be minimized using present technology. How with the same food production level we can feed more & more people ? Your reply leads to - How to get rich & afford wastage - looks more political then technological.
According to wikipedia -"In 2011, Extreme poverty in the United States, meaning households living on less than $2 per day before government benefits, was double 1996 levels at 1.5 million households, including 2.8 million children.[3] In 2013, child poverty reached record high levels, with 16.7 million children living in food insecure households, about 35% more than 2007 levels.[4] The number of people in the U.S. who are in poverty is approaching 1960s levels that led to the national War on Poverty.[5]" - source - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_the_United_States.
Other quote - "In 2010, 17.2 million households, 14.5 percent of households (approximately one in seven), were food insecure, the highest number ever recorded in the United States 1 (Coleman-Jensen 2011, p. v.)
Source - http://www.worldhunger.org/articles/Learn/us_hunger_facts.htm
Apr 3 2013: 1, i don't see any problems wasting something that is cheap. i also don't see the point in wasting effort on saving something that is abundant. we have much better things to do.
2, important part " $2 per day before government benefits". benefits are in great part the reason for this situation. this kind of poverty is mainly a result of the war on poverty itself, and almost exclusively a result of government interventions. at the level of the US economy, in a free market setting, nobody would make that few. these numbers are bogus and inflated.
Apr 4 2013: I agree with ZX Style. Really it is very shocking to know that you do not see the problem and justify wastage. This is utterly disregard to the resources of Earth, other human beings & our future generation. We have seen many resources once abundant have become scarce today because of this kind of thinking.
We have got abundant fresh water. 2-3 generations ago nobody thought that someday we might have to pay for water also . Now at many places it is being sold at almost half prices than that of milk. We are facing this situation because we did not utilize this precious resource wisely.
So is the food. Food production is becoming more & more costly. Production cost of 1 kg of grain is much much higher than what it used to be few years ago. The same applies for meat production also. In such scenario wastage of food becomes a very important issue. And instead of concern about this you justify wastage ! Really shocking !Apr 4 2013: i'm very sorry to shock you (not really), but you were not talking about resources at all. you were talking about feeding everyone. you might think it is related, but you are grossly mistaken.
with technology, we can easily feed 9bn people. we can also easily provide clean water for 9bn people. famines are getting more rare, health is going up for decades. we don't need to stop wasting. we need to produce more. it is not only doable, but also easy. it has tried and proven methods. pointing a finger on the "wasteful" rich people is nothing but looking for scapegoat.
to get a little more informed, watch the talks by hans rosling and matt ridley.
Apr 4 2013: "We do not need to stop wasting. " " pointing finger on the "wasteful" rich people" ...???Apr 4 2013: Krisztian, I have watched both Hans and Matt. Can you please lead me to authentic sources of information which supports your comment, "with technology, we can easily feed 9bn people. we can also easily provide clean water for 9bn people. famines are getting more rare, health is going up for decades."
Rich and Poor keep changing positions over centuries. The West, traditionally Europe and Continental America plundered world, societies, countries and their resources and labor to get rich. So fingers are steadily pointed at wasteful West, whether or not you like that.
That technology, the resource hungry and consumption championing variety, can support wastefulness is a pipe dream.
I am not impressed about ideas having sex. All sex do not necessarily produce offspring and when it does there are as many Cains as Abels.Apr 3 2013: I agree, but how do you get everyone in the program? Actually, the stores in America are fairly good about recycling and helping the food bank. I do remember hearing about a botulism problem here in Fort Worth at a food recycler. That has to be considered. Also, Costa Rica seems to have had a problem with the fishermen not giving the rest of the shark to the poor after collecting the valuable fins.
Apr 3 2013: If we look somewhat deeply , we can find that major wastage of food is done in big cities. Also the paradox is that these cities do have technology & resources to make this food available to hungry people out there.
Yes, the important question is how to get everyone involved, as this problem do need participation of motivated people. But what I am looking for is how with the use of present technology, we can solve this big... gap without large manpower. Can we have some kind of technical system ?
We should have some grass root level technology where food can be preserved for use at later stage or can be converted in some form to be used later on.
Apr 4 2013: This problem is more pressing in some countries than others. In America food scarcity is increasing, but it will become a real threat if the Porkers keep growing the population to reduce wages more. I have read that the per person consumption of calories is declining in India with 1.2 billion people. You are right of course, and the weighing may vary from country to country and time to time. What I am saying is only that everything has many costs. Recycling can be dangerous. We had Chili con carne that was rejected by a resturant that was sold through a recycler here. It resulted in some boyulism cases.
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