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- John Gianino
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Social Network or Tribe
We have the ability and the resources to change the world.
Please read the comments below and reply to them, if you have thoughts.
The TED Talks I've related to this conversation are very inspiring, check them out.
Large social networks can be thought of as groups of tribes. We form tribes early in life based on where we are born and raised. These tribes or social circles can have tremendous impact on our development and our direction in life.
In our current system. we compete for money and we work for attention. The more skilled you are, the connections you have, and the attractive qualities you possess come to form our personal value along with our contributions.
The idea is similar to a human brain. The body supplies resources to the entire brain and certain regions of the brain get more based on stimulus but every cell gets enough to live and has the opportunity to be stimulated and grow. The functional structures of the brain can be an analogy for organizations and companies in our world.
We now have the the foundation to establish a virtual social network that can basically govern a population and supply jobs. In virtual social networks there are accountability, qualitative, and quantitative indicators already built into virtual social networks that can give value to the contributions we supply online and offline. If we supply good contributions we are rewarded, if we supply bad contributions or nothing at all, we are not rewarded. This can be implemented on a personal performance basis and we can still supply resources to everyone connected on a lower sustainable level.
http://youtu.be/qv8Xn7PUcI4 This is a similar idea but still based on an antiquated concept that money will always we necessary.
Mar 3 2013: As you say ... " We actually don't work for money anymore we work for attention." This is certainly true in Detroit. The center for Unions and the rights of men according to Marx has served you well.
People have come to realize that this is not a workable solution and are kicking unions and that philosophy out for right to work and freedom of choice.
Those who continue to work for attention will become very hungry in bankrupt cities (Detroit) ... I do not suggest this.
Mar 3 2013: DEFINITION: Attention - is the cognitive process of selectively concentrating on one aspect of the environment while ignoring other things. Attention has also been referred to as the allocation of processing resources.
I used "attention" in my statement in place of money because currency is just a medium of exchange and attention if more about focus of resources. Please maintain cogency in reading my idea. I can explain and clarify details better if I can understand your perspective.
Can you briefly explain in your own words what you think my idea is?
Mar 3 2013: As I re-read your explaination I see many thoughts (my opinion)
1. That you are suggesting that the value of the product is in the skill of the worker.
2. That each person should work / contribute in order to share .. but maybe not proportionally
3. That you embrace trading and bartering except that we do not exchange pigs, cows, and rice ... we gain credits. Another exchange just like money.
I just read it again and think that you are saying down with capitalism and bring on a socialist government ... which is the current popular political thought.
John, you ask for my opinion ... IMO I think you are begining to enjoy the taste of the kool ade.
I still wish you well. Bob.
Mar 3 2013: Hi Bob,
I have absolutely no interest in public ownership of real or intellectual property and to me bartering and trading becomes a hassle because value perceived is value received.
My idea is to bring attention and resources to a community in much the same way the human body reacts to a wound. Imagine every person as specialized cells in the organ systems of the human body. We receive a signal (pain) and we dispatch resources to the affected area with great efficiency because everything is connected in a biological network.
Each person should be responsible for their own family, home, and community. A person's job should be to complete tasks for an organization within their community. This contains the opportunity costs and benefits within the region in which a person is most effected. People will respond to problems more quickly and effectively if the problems effect them directly.Mar 4 2013: John, Sounds like you are describing the Amish Society in the USA. As far as I know they are the only true practictioners of a true Socialist society. Each has a assignment within the society and they all participate in the common good of the whole.
Is this a fair comparison of what you suggest.
Mar 4 2013: If you need to relate a culture to my concept, imagine science fiction for a moment. I'm not going to get geeky with you but, Star Trek has influenced our technology so much that there are actually books about the science behind the fiction. People have been working to develop innovations for years based on this series. What do you think would motivate a technology based society to work together?Mar 14 2013: Have a look at Gajantic.com ... That's a bare-bones version.
It doesn't appear to be what you're aiming at, but the result might be similar in the end. I have a Cognitive Science / Philosophy of Mind / Artificial Intelligence background, so I kind of get what you're going for. One thing it seems to me is: If we try to change people too quickly or give them something that looks radically different...they won't like it, or adopt it. So Gajantic is designed to use familiar terms, a familiar platform, and familiar procedures....to let people get where you're aiming by themselves.......
...Just for fun: For an example of giving people something radically different, check out ClientPlaza.com, which I also developed -- ClientPlaza turns the tables on advertising by letting individuals broadcast their needs to companies (the opposite of companies advertising to them).
But no one used it because they just couldn't understand something so different than they were used to (and it's really not that different!).
Anyway, let me know what you think of Gajantic if you want. Maybe it's not what you're after at all.Mar 14 2013: Hey John and everyone, I've watched 3 of the Talks you recommend. Good ones, all.
My company (ironically, a for-profit venture) has produced Gajantic.com. Gajantic isn't designed to make much profit in dollars, so it's not alien to your thinking.
It does, kind of by accident, lean towards providing some of the features of the system you propose.
Can you make it work for you? Might only need some copy-and-paste to start getting things done.
With your own social network fully engaged, of course ;-)
Mar 14 2013: Hi Warrick, how do you imagine this website to look?Mar 6 2013: Problem is tribes lack funding.
Mar 7 2013: Tribes do not require money they require members...Members that care and that listen, everything else comes from that.
Mar 8 2013: You miss the point, tribes that have no resources are ineffective. The world is largely the way it is because good people don't have control of the wealth of society and so it is irresponsibly used.
Mar 8 2013: People do not control the resources the resources control us. Give me one example where this is not the case and if I cannot disprove it, I will kindly submit to your way of thinking.Mar 6 2013: Hi Charles,
Social media is different from a social network. A sports league is a social network, congress is a social network, Facebook is a social network. Social media is a chat, blog, video, phone call, music station, its content. Social networks "interact" with social media as a means of communication. Its like the electrical impulses passing through neurons.
What I'm suggesting is to facilitate content through platforms already established in a more economical process. Why do you login to facebook? Most likely to interact with its users and to explore its content. Why not login to a state or city website and interact with its users? Why? Because its one sided, its not interactive its like a road map in a tiime when we have turn by turn virtual or real guides.Mar 5 2013: Ok so your basically saying we should switch our government over to the social media's platform? what's the purpose of that?? life is exactly how you just said it could be like if you spend all your time doing nothing aka social media then you'll do nothing in life, the world will never revolve around social media the people that succeed are the ones that don't give into the cultures influences of non stimulating mind melting media
and i'm not really sure how the social media's indicators and structure would be any better then the structure and platform ALREADY in place for the exact reasons this just seems like a pointless idea please explain further if this isn't what you mean?Mar 5 2013: Hi John,
This is a good question!
Here's some things to ponder:
1. What does the human unit bring to the group?
2. What are the roles of the institutions we create?
3. Are institutions entities?
4. What does the environment we inhabit have to say about us and our institutions?
5. How do we keep our laws and institutions in step with our environment?
6. What is the diference between "adapted" and "adaptable?
7. What are the limits of human comprehension of complex non-linear systems?
8. Would you willingly live next door to a redneck?
Mar 5 2013: Mitch,
We can Google all these answers and relate them to the conversation. What are your interests in the conversation?
Mar 7 2013: Hi John,
True. Google has some advantages.
My interest is to see where this thread goes - and I hope more than one person actually did google these questions - they are cogent (even the redneck one - gotta have it where you live and not just in the google-cloud).
So - firstly, we don't need to go looking for some design of a society - it is default .. we don't make it, we allow it. So anarchy is the way forward. This is what is being demonstrated on the internet today .. it's a very pale copy of real-life community, but you can see it happening like some kind ofg new thing .. but it's just what happens when people are allowed to be default. On that score, we should defend our right to be wild and not tollerate the CISPA/SOPA/ACTA attempts to destroy it.
So look at all the things that destroy our default wild-community,. These are ythe enemy of community. including: law, religion, schools, prisons, governments .. i.e. all our institutions.
Institutions begin OK, but they all get poisoned .. and what are they poisoned by? alpha males .. and after that - alpha females. HAve a look - institutons start out as a passive principle. Take for instance "education". When practivced as a passive principle, the students go to learn, when active they go to be trained, disciplined and indoctrinated. Law is instituted as a resort for those in conflict - but now it is the instrument of violation, government started as enslavement by alpha males, after thousands of years we pulled it back to "democracy" so we could choose our persecutor .. for a little while it even looked a bit like representation, but that fairytale is ended. We created corporations to gather the increase of human collaberation, and they have turned to viruses on community and government.
Our institutions are at war with us and each other - simply by switching from passive to active.
This is the measure of a pathalogical entity - the difference between a parasite and a symbiot.
Don't create any more of these.
Mar 7 2013: Mitch,
Everything changes and people may compare our societal behaviors with different organisms but, we are uniquely human. Our ability to create change for good or for bad is influenced by our interest.Mar 7 2013: Yes .. but we are constrained in language to deal with extrinsic symbology - the extrinsic .. and these extrinsics must reduce the noise of result for whatever entity we are promoting for survival - meta or instantiated.
All I aim to do here is to point out that our meta capacity was not our doing - it is a reult of the continuum of the instantiated. We assume that we are the master of our history, and thereby own our futures - which we do not. And, it looks like we own that future in a descending curve.
we can have our meta. And in that meta, I try to help by observing that the meta-creatures we spawn and instantiate are immature.
I hint that the turn of an entity from symbiote to parasite is based on teh principle of passive/active.
I cannot know for sure, but I investigate the modulation of entropy as the genesis of a skin - if it has a skin, it is an entity - and by virtue of that skin, the flow of entropy is modulated to give rise to a "self" and that all which defines a "self" is survial. this infers a definite atractor, and yet the meta can be strange - e.g. the weather .. and our meta constructs all seem strange - e.g "mother nature".
I would say that if you can pinch a skin and get smacked in the head for it, then you are dealing with reality. All else is strange, and we had better admit it and work out the damn math if we get smacked in the head.
I recommend you download netllogo and get exploring. Or join up with this little course:
And/or present your papers .. it would be nice to allow the "wild university" to start delivering de-institutionalised scientific method - peer review from real peers.Mar 5 2013: Hi John,
I agree .. with a small caveat .. social networks are cellular autonomata .. they behave according to the shapes they are allowed.
I played "tribal wars" a few years ago .. it was all good except it was "tribal" and "wars". I got a tribe going and we killed lot of other players .. game-wise .. and i got it going well enough to set up safe-tribes to protect the little kids in "don't kill" tribes .. you know - for the little 6 and 7 year olds who hadn't learned how to be ruthless .. that worked for a while until I found many players were enslaving the kids for personal avantage .. so we had to eat all the kids.
Yes .. social networks "rule" .. but to what end?
Tao Ronz
Mar 5 2013: hi John
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You wrote: "We now have the the foundation to establish a social network that can basically govern a population and supply jobs."
To govern populations, supply jobs and also, to solve problems. We are two people discussing this kind of project. http://www.ted.com/conversations/16652/community_driven_website_that.html
The idea I had is this: Make a website that connects: The best ideas, the best workers and financing to make it happen.
It would be like a combination of Reddit, Ebay, Facebook etc.
The project I'm thinking of however does not focus primarily on jobs. It focuses on problem solving. Its a very basic idea right now. Anyway yea, join in if you're interesting. We started a forum.
Your idea is sort of abstract and at this point, ours is too. I'm just replying here so this topic is bookmarked as I might visit it again later.
Mar 5 2013: Hi Tao, This idea is about the evolution of a website. I tried to imagine network structures after working through this lession http://ed.ted.com/on/NTwRKjCq Companies such as Google and Facebook create websites (virtual hubs) to aggregate content to pull your attention in to profit from marketing. My idea is to create a physical hub associated with the website. Detroit.gov was my first thought.
Detroit is virtually bankrupt and it needs to change. The city has a user database already established through state identification. I had to set this possibility aside because the government in place is in crisis and things move slow so, I made and offer to buy detroit.org and set it up as a non profit to hand it over to the city after i can work the bugs out.
Tao Ronz
Mar 6 2013: Great idea to work on Detroit. Yea that city needs help. Good luck! I saw the video, thanks for the link.Mar 5 2013: Would you want to be watched all day? plus the system would be abused, its a great idea but a government should not control its people. How about we reward our government services including the military with the same process. For the people by the people is our motto so lets reward programs like education, systems that improve our ways of life. and lets reduce or eliminate any office that is wasting our money. the network page would show the employees, the total profit or loss of the office and what they have been doing. That would be much better than a few thousand people trying to watch a whole country, if it was like that you could get away with almost anything....
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Mar 5 2013: Patrick, no one wants to be under the microscope all day. Everything can be abused but, not everyone can be abused. People are the government and their control is only as powerful as we allow it to be. The military is made up of people in organized networks. Everything is a network, links, nodes, hubs, connections, etc.
Imagine no loss of profit in business. How could you make that happen?
Try imagining a situation existing in your mind that CAN BE, then try to defeat the idea. I'm not imaging people looking a videos and photos all day long, I'm imagining people going about their day as normal, talking to people on the phone, walking on the street, sleeping, its all about perspective.
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Mar 4 2013: Are you talking about social capital? If you are, it is distinct from physical capital in as much as it is more value oriented than price controlled. Moreover, unlike physical capital where one principle economic element is ownership, it has sharing as its principle element.
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Do you propose that social capitalism can replace physical capitalism in economically meaningful way?
Mar 4 2013: After you raised this question, I did some research. If you think about social capitalism implemented into an economic system how do you imagine it would function from your personal perspective? How would you do it?
Mar 5 2013: I am not sure and I am no economist. But social elements can certainly be built into services and goods that are Capitals. For example, reading books is a service and libraries share books to readers which creates a value (social bonding, exchange of reviews, enhancing reading tastes you name it) as well as lessens consumption of resources. The downside is the writer loses royalty, which I think can be overcome by pay per read sort of arrangements.
Holiday time sharing is another example. Car sharing is another.
However, I am not so clear about basic products like food, energy or shelter. But it is an interesting thought.
I am not clear about social networks or what you mean by attention in this respect of course.Mar 3 2013: I find it ironic that you are writing about capitalism from the city that is the poster child for socialism and corruption.
Your idea reminds me of the .com bubble...
Mar 3 2013: Handing out resources and/or fighting over them is not effective, I see that first hand. If you have the time I'd like to read your interpretation and perspective of my idea. You could even sum it up into a paragraph or so, I'd like to put myself in your shoes looking at my idea.
Mar 3 2013: It is true that you are rewarded for gathering favorable attention (PR) and who you know.
However the key is in what is exchanged and how that product or service is perceived.
The governing body on this is the individual who votes with his pocketbook.
It is impossible for anything but the free market to govern this as every individual makes 100 or more economic decisions per day times 7 billion = 700 billion decisions per day. This can only be governed by individuals freely exchanging without government perversions that create bubbles.
The free market embraces the free exchange of ideas which makes it elegant and complex and connects everyone in the world. Think about any product and how it is connected from raw material to communication to packaging to manufacture to transportation to advertising to marketing to training etc etc. Watch this video and you will get the idea.
I don't mean to shoot down your idea it is just that I don't see it as workable.
Mar 3 2013: I really enjoyed this TED talk, thanks for sharing!Mar 3 2013: Capitalism means:
capitalizing on what others don't know, and then profiting by taking advantage of that.
It is also taking advantage of bad things that happen to others. Profiting off the illness, accidents,
crimes, mistakes and catastrophes that happen.
It is also capitalizing on these 'breaks' and using that advantage to keep others down, thus maintaining
a disadvantage that works to your advantage and then:
Capitalizing on that advantage to widen the distance between those with and those without.
It is fraught with reasons for fear, greed, crime, creating inequality, poverty, slavery and so on.
It is by default, an unjust system that cannot be made just.
Let's say you have a great job John. But many are out of work and need a job that pays well.
Why don't you give them your job? Because it is only one job and there are thousands out of work.
So, how do you reconcile one person stumbling upon a pothole first, through sheer luck, getting the credits and having others follow up, who didn't know the pothole was reported, i.e. taken?
I agree with you that Socialism can work and it must not have money involved. So far, we haven't had Communism or Socialism that didn't involve money and thus all the reasons for corruption. In fact, with money, any monetary system can only survive with corruption, greed, crime, and so on.
Why not make all jobs equal to begin with, because they are. It is only when we put money, value, credits or other forms of separating us from one another, on jobs, that we begin to see, believe and treat each other with different values that involve, lack of respect, disdain, contempt and so on when the truth is we need all jobs done and there are enough humans to do all jobs.
I believe we have to start, nay, we must start with Human Needs. There are a certain number of Human Needs that are the same for everyone. I think you touched on that. They should be Universal Human Rights and guaranteed, supplied and so on before we begin more fighting.
Mar 3 2013: Your reply appeared to begin with great disdain for capitalism, let me address that first. I looked up the definition of capitalism and previously paraphrased it in my reply to George Lockwood. You defined capitalism as if it were a corporation that was managed by narcissists and its mission was to convert all people into obedient slaves.
Why do people need jobs? All life needs resources to survive and life forms perform tasks to acquire the resources they desire. People do not have the same desire to perform all the tasks in humanity.
My idea is to be part of a system in which people create an awareness of a need and this awareness is the catalyst and the fuel to fill the need.
Correct me if I'm wrong but, is your comment more of a suggestion to focus on basic human needs?Mar 3 2013: I do not see the point of so much engineering. Would life be simpler then?
Mar 3 2013: Jedrek, by "see" do you mean understand or do you mean to have interest in the point? By saying "so much engineering" do you envision more than you can handle yourself? What makes life complicated? To me, life is complicated when there is an absence of resources to provide solutions. Life becomes easier when we share our resources and migrate them to areas in need. Imagine a healthy human brain distributing nutrients throughout the network of cells. When an area of the brain that is responsible for creative problem solving is active and stimulated it grows stronger and uses less resources to solve complicated tasks.Mar 3 2013: I don't completely understand . What does capitalism really mean? Are corporations really that capitalistic. Finally, everyone needs money.
Mar 3 2013: Capitalism is an economic system whereby goods and services are sold for a profit. Corporations operate by organizing people into a network node or hub. Employees then follow directions to complete a mission to sell goods and services through this node or artificial entity known as a company. What I'm proposing is system based on contributions to exchange goods and services.
Online Example: You are a writer for a blog and you post an article. The more views, comments, likes, karma, etc your article receives the more you credit you accumulate.
Offline Example: A pot hole is photographed and reported to the social network. The attention the issue receives by comments, views, alerts, etc is equal to the writers blog article. Someone in the network is connected to a person that can most effectively fix the problem and after which, he is awarded the credits.
This system of credit can take the place of currency and I'm sure I'm not the first to think of it. George, you have 10+ TEDCreds do you think that will be something of value on this website? A big difference with what I'm imagining and TEDCreds is that my idea for credits has more to do with currency than status. Status can fade with inactively.
Mar 4 2013: You raise an interesting point when discussion TEDCreds; is credit given to the best ideas, the most well argued thoughts, or is it given to popular responses, comments that appeal of a mass audience, but provide little in the way of new and innovative thinking? Similarly, those that comment often productive commenter, may or may not receive credit. Additionally, innovators and creative sorts are often under appreciated for their contributions. Van Gogh is an example.
Your notions about the value of such credit system is not supported.


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"It's actually a project that was a result of our planning two years ago when we did the renovations to the church, and we had done work on the outside as well," said Father Brian Vossler, pastor of St. Leo's Church. "We first had to fix the wall and put in a new sidewalk for two of the statues, and then with the final statute, we were able to lay down a foundation for the cross and the statue itself. It took us a while to get all of that in but it's not something new so to speak, it was something that we had planned all along and we were finally able to accomplish that."


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Flacco is elite.
Flacco is elite.
Christ, junc. Don't you get the day off like the rest of us?
Flacco has been a winner in the post season since he was a rookie he is elite!
The above post is not subject to penalty under the TOS I declare the Hayden Fox defense. " It is impossible for the staff to know my context therefore I cannot be penalized"
Maybe this Superbowl will help remind people that while this league is still tuned towards offensive production, DEFENSE is playing a major role in getting teams to championships....
49er's 2nd half shutout of Atlanta, and Ravens virtually shutting down Tom Brady and the "highest powered offense in the NFL".
Guys let's not go this route again. We already a thread in the Depths about Eli and his eliteness. Please don't make us move this thread.
This **** AGAIN???
Bill Belichick on "putting the tape on"
Actually Flacco factoring his body of work since in the league and last 2 postseasons is proving himself to be more "Elite" as a QB than the Jets have ever been as a team.
This is about Flacco and Kaepernick god damnit. It has nothing to do with the Jets.
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CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (Sept. 24, 2010) - The ETSU men's tennis team got off to a solid start at the UVA Ranked Plus One Invitational with three players advancing to quarterfinal action Friday afternoon from the Snyder Tennis Center.
In Charlottesville, Jesus Bandres (Caracas, Venezuela ) continues his solid fall play as he defeated Fred Saba of Duke, 6-2, 7-6 (3), in the A-1 singles draw. Bandres will take on Maros Horny of Maryland tomorrow at 12 p.m. Bandres is now 6-3 on the season.
Freshman Jorge Varon (Valencia, Venezuela) won a tight three set battle against Tobias Fanselow of Old Dominion 4-6, 7-5, 6-1, in the opening round of A-2 singles. Fanselow is the No. 117 ranked player in the country. Varon will take on No. 41 Chris Nott of Arkansas tomorrow at 12:30 p.m. Varon has now won a team-leading seven matches during fall play and is 7-2 overall.
In the A-4 bracket, the Bucs got a victory from Jeremy Bonnevalle (Keerbergen, Belgium) as he knocked off Taylor Meyer of North Carolina, 6-4, 6-2. Bonnevalle will take on Justin Shane of Virginia tomorrow at 1:30 p.m at the Snyder Tennis Center.
Play continues on Saturday at the Snyder Tennis Center. The final round of doubles begins at 8:30 a.m., with two rounds of singles to follow.
At the Southern Intercollegiate the Bucs had a tough opening day. Juan Ramirez (Asuncion, Paraguay) dropped a hard fought match to Christian Blocker of Miami in the opening round of Division I singles, 4-6, 7-5, 6-1.
Fellow teammate Robin Akser (Ornskoldsvik, Sweden) also fell in opening round action. He was defeated by Michael Alford of Florida, 6-3, 6-1.
The biggest positive from the day came from Akser and Ramirez as they teamed up for doubles play. The duo started the day off by defeating Malte Stropp and Zach White of Mississippi State, 9-7. Then, the duo knocked off Gabriel Flores and Omar Aly of Miami, 8-5. Akser/Ramirez will take on the top-seeded team of Juan Spir/Kevin King of Georgia Tech tomorrow evening.
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Ryan Dempster threw 7.2 impressive innings today as the Cubs beat the Cubs. I imagine the Cubs will be beating themselves a lot this season so they're just getting us used to it right away. Dempster allowed only 2 hits, but 1 of those was a ball that Jeff Baker didn't feel like bending over to field. Baker, playing because Bryan LaHair is injured, went to his right to field a ball and while he could have easily fielded it simply by bending over, he let it go thinking Darwin Barney's strong transformed arm would complete the play.
It was also that
error hit that allowed the Nationals to tie the game at 1 in the top of the 8th inning. Had Baker don'e his job, Dempster gets through 8 innings having allowed only a hit and no runs. Instead, Dempster leaves after 7.2 innings. He'd reached 108 pitches. I was surprised to see him return for the 8th inning. He had thrown 92 pitches after 7 and I figured that's a pretty good total for a first start. Sveum (and I imagine many other managers too) disagreed and sent Dempster back out. I'm sure Dempster talked himself into staying in the game too.
He did his job in the 8th and should have completed the inning, but left with 2 outs and a runner at 1st base. Kerry Wood entered the game and gave the fans his best Carlos Marmol impersonation. Wood walked 3, including a walk that scored that tying run, before retiring the final out of the inning.
To give you an idea how useless ERA is, this is a great example. Wood walked 3 and recorded 1 out. Dempster was fantastic. He struggled a bit early, but settled down in the 3rd inning and just shut the Nationals down. Wood allowed 0 earned runs and thanks to his 3 walks Dempster allowed an earned run.
Marmol entered the game in the 9th with a tie game and he allowed a couple hits and a run. In the bottom of the 9th with 1 out Ian Stewart tripled to RF and then ran himself into an out at home plate (thanks to Joe Mather's appearance in the comments I remembered that it was he who was thrown out at home and not Stewart). There's not a lot you can do about it though. He was running on contact, which most managers would have done. Soriano also ran into an out at 3rd earlier in the game so the Cubs ran themselves into two more outs than you'd like.
Neither of those were particularly bad by themselves, but this is a bad baserunning team. They ran themselves into way too many outs in spring training as Sveum preached aggressiveness on the bases. I don't think anybody had high hopes for this team on the bases, but from what we've seen this spring and today it looks like they have a manager who will actually try to maximize their poor baserunning. You'd think he'd try to minimize it.
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Clinical Information Discusses physiology, pathophysiology, and general clinical aspects, as they relate to a laboratory test
Granulocyte antibodies are induced by pregnancy or prior transfusion and are associated with febrile, nonhemolytic transfusion reactions. Patients who have been immunized by previous transfusions, pregnancies, or allografts frequently experience febrile, nonhemolytic transfusion reactions which must be distinguished from hemolysis before further transfusions can be safely administered. Granulocyte antibodies may also be present in autoimmune neutropenia.
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Lightroom: Allow for keyboard shortcut customization
Lightroom: Allow for keyboard shortcut customization
Customizable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom would be great. I just find it so confusing that crop and brush tools and things like that have such odd keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom. I understand that changing that all now would be awful for many existing users, but being able to override them like I can in Photoshop would be helpful. Doesn't anyone else out there find they use to wrong keyboard shortcuts in the wrong program?
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Given the versatility of the new Wacom Intuos 5 Touch Tablet and its radial menu it would be nice as in Photoshop CS5 and CS6 if you were able to add shortcuts to menu items to use with Lightroom 4. I have a lot of additional shortcuts added in Photoshop CS6 that are on my Radial Menu that make it much fast to perform certain tasks. It would be nice if I could have more custom shortcuts to use in Lightroom 4 and beyond. Thanks for your interest in our feedback it what will always be one of the reasons I come back to Adobe Products.
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Lightroom 4 custom shortcuts.
Also adding programable shortcut keys to presets, like actions in Photoshop.
CHAMP1I think many people would appreciate being able to reassign keyboard shortcuts, including to plugin commands. While it would be better if this were built in to LR, the plugin Keyboard Tamer currently provides that functionality:
Custom keyboard shortcuts would address many requests, including this one about additional shortcuts for basic adjustments.
I can't believe this hasn't been part of Lightroom since the beginning. Having different shortcuts for LR and PS is asinine.
Keyboard Tamer is a total kludge and the developer is non-responsive to questions even after a nice cash donation to his cause.
C'mon Adobe, this is much needed!
Also adding programable shortcut keys to presets, like actions in Photoshop.
I need that SO MUCH!!! Especially the custom presets.
With Lightroom having such a huge amount of users by now, wouldn't it be about time to implement configurable keyboard shortcuts and stop burning all non-US/UK keyboard users?
Br. Jay
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Configurable keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom.
Is it possible to set up your own shortcuts in Lr?
(an obvious example being for the purple label, but there are plenty more taske it would b helpful to shortcut if possible?
Thanks in advance
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Assigning Shortcuts in Lightroom?.
From the merged topic: See this thread for how to assign a shortcut to the fifth color label (default purple):
(Keyboard Tamer doesn't know about color-label shortcuts.)
Soon we will be releasing a lightroom plugin that will allow you to set shortcut keys for presets in lightroom. You can get more information @ http://missingelement.net/products-2/
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Couldn't agree more with Rob. Is $99 a typo or something? And the website didn't provide much info to help a potential user justify such an expense.
Dead link!
Thanks for the tip Chris - Paddy looks real good, although I haven't been able to save a script yet...
THANKS! However it is a work-around and NOT the solution. Adobe... do you hear?
Customisable keyboard shortcuts with the ability to add them for the develop slider settings, i.e. white balance, black, exposure etc pleeeeeeeaase
Customisable keyboard for french people Thanks
Customizable Keyboard Shortcuts in directly in Lightroom would be excellent! Like a shortcut to jump straight to the Library Text Filter Dialog Box, I use it all day every day.
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Customizable Keyboard Shortcuts directly in Lightroom.
From the other thread: Ctrl+F (Cmd-F on Mac) takes you directly to the Text filter.
We want to be able to customize everything (sort of like paddy) and not have to rely on expensive third party support that break with updates to lightroom.
This should be supported in lightroom itself. PLEASE!
Especially importent for those of us working in other languages than English and using a different keyboard
Why isn't there a keyboard shortcut for access adjust exposure, recovery, temp, tint etc? This will allow easy mapping of gestures, wacom keys etc to quickly change stuff.
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Direct Keyboard Shortcuts for Develop Adjustment tools.
Given the versatility of the new Wacom Intuos 5 Touch Tablet and its radial menu it would be nice as in Photoshop CS5 and CS6 if you were able to add shortcuts to menu items to use with Lightroom 4. I have a lot of additional shortcuts added in Photoshop CS6 that are on my Radial Menu that make it much fast to perform certain tasks. It would be nice if I could have more custom shortcuts to use in Lightroom 4 and beyond. Thanks for your interest in our feedback it what will always be one of the reasons I come back to Adobe Products.
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Lightroom 4 custom shortcuts.
That is my issue as well.
how about a customization option in LR, for changing shortcuts of tools etc.?
It can't be that hard :).
It works in Photoshop as well!
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How about defining your own shortcuts in LR.
Photoshop has this option. Why not Lightroom?
I would really like to "Open as Layers in Photoshop" with one keystroke.
Better yet, I'd love to open a series of stacks as layered psd file.
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LIGHTROOM: Custom keyboard shortcuts.
This is really very basic functionality that is missing in my opinion. Lightroom's biggest weakness is how its interface limits productivity by forcing you to use the mouse for everything when the keyboard is so much faster. Paddy is great but just one guy with limited resources. Please Lightroom Team, do this and do it right so we are able to get the most out of the software we've purchased! Thanks, Matt
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Keyboard Shortcuts, give us choices..
I cannot tell you how many times I have accidently dragged a finger on my keyboard and suddenly, I'm in an alternate universe. Yes I am talking about the myriad keyboard shortcuts in all Adobe products. One misplaced stroke on the keyboard, and your screen may change dramatically as you have inadvertanly pressed an unknown key and have to try to figure out how to get back to wherever you were. I would be amazed if there was even one person in the world that has all the keyboard shortcuts in every module of LR memorized. So here's my suggestion and I have to believe it would be easily implemented by your brilliant software engineers (I mean that, they really are).
How about a preferences tab with a page for each module that would allow one to turn off, or turn on the keyboard shortcuts. It could be a simple checkbox for "All On" or "All Off" with "All On" being the default. But it would allow one to check on just the ones needed. That way, a person could start with some basics turned on, and then add more as they become more proficient. You know, the old "baby steps" theory.
I really hope you take my suggestion to heart and implement it. It would make LR an even more fabulous piece of software.
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Custom Keyboard Shortcuts for Lightroom!.
I want to be able to quickly change my keyboard shortcuts to improve my workflow. Looked for a similar way to change it like Photoshop, only to discover it doesn't exist!
Can we get this?
And if any of you had seen the Shortcutkeys in Adobe Illustrator... Man even in PS they still have to implement that button for "Jump to the conflict key" that is AWESOME...
Otherwise as I can see for a couple of years no change even here. Please Adobe go google LR Paddy and check it. Then remember PS and AI and implement that all in LR. ;-)
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Lightroom custom keyboard shortcuts.
Photoshop has custom keyboard shortcuts.
Please add them to Lightroom already! v5 and still not there? Ridonkulous
This is needed because some keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom is created for English keyboards only. Some shortcuts doesn't work at all when you use for example, a Swedish keyboard.
"Rotate picture" and "Hold to view before/after" is two shortcuts that doesn't work for me and that I really would like to use.
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As tablets are becoming more and more frequent in photo editing it would be most useful to be able to assign personalized short cuts to LR menu items in the same way as in PS. E.g. Photo>Edit in> (different options for external editing). At the moment there is a shortcut only to open in PS, but e.g. not to open in PS as smart object....
CHAMP1Risto wrote, "At the moment there is a shortcut only to open in PS, but e.g. not to open in PS as smart object...."
I agree that LR would benefit from a general facility for assigning shortcuts. However, on Mac you can assign shortcuts to nearly all of menu commands using OS X's built-in facility for assigning shortcuts. For example, I just assigned F4 to Photo > Edit In > Open as Smart Object in Photoshop:
As a windows user that doesn't make me feel much better... :-/
I did some search and it seems to me that windows does't have the capability to assign keyboard short cuts within other than MS office applications.
That leaves windows users with some plugins that are either as expensive as LR itself or are not properly supported....?
To me that confirms that there is a huge need for this capability natively within LR...
Here is an auto-hotkey script which allows Lr-in-Windows users to configure any key to do whatever they want (assuming said function is available via the keyboard) - for free.
It requires editing a script text file, but most of the hard work is already done.
Here's an example "script-let" which assigns F4 to 'Open as Smart Object in Photoshop':
F4 -> Alt-peo (Open as Smart Object in Photoshop)
lr_win_id := GetLightroomWindowID()
if (lr_win_id <> 0) {
Send {Alt down}p{Alt up}eo
* Download 'LrAutoHotkey.zip' (from link above) and save file inside zip with the name 'AutoHotkey.ahk' in the root of your documents folder.
* Append the above "script-let" to the end of the file.
* Download and install Auto-Hotkey (e.g. from autohotkey.com).
With Lightroom running, press F4. If all went well, it should open selected photo as smart object in Ps.
To add more mappings, copy/paste and edit the scriptlet - you'll need 3 pieces of info to get the job done:
1. The keystroke sequence in Lightroom.
2. How to specify the key being assigned.
3. How to specify the keys to send when the key being assigned is pressed.
The first you can get using the Lightroom UI.
the second and third require auto-hotkey help doc.
I realize it's more work than you'd like, but it gets the job done - can also be used for mouse clicks and other things..
CHAMP0Risto wrote, "As a windows user that doesn't make me feel much better... :-/"
I'm sorry, I incorrectly assumed you were on Mac. On Windows, you can use the standard Windows keyboard accelerators to access all the menu items. So to open a pic as a smart object in photoshop, you'd type ALT-P E O.
Three keys aren't quite as good as a single key, I agree. But when working on Windows on repetitive tasks, I do like the a ability to access every menu command from the keyboard instantly.
Hi John!
Finally a ray of hope to windows users :-) I almost started considering changing the platform.
Using keyboard short cuts especially together with Wacom tablet is of great help, indeed (even though Wacon driver for windows environment seem to have quite a few bugs...) .
I did some search about programming keyboard shortcuts in windows environment but I didn't find other that some instructions for MS office applications. Where can I find e.g. that ALT-PEO? There certainly are many other short cuts I would like to implement besides that open as smart object.
Thanks for your help!
Lightroom supports keyboard accelerators for most functions on both platforms - no extra charge.
Just press Alt-p-e-o and you'll see.
To see all Alt- possibilities, just press Alt.
To see all alt-photo-menu possibilities, press Alt-p.
Lr help may also list all possibilities - dunno.
PS - most possibilities are evidenced by an underlined character but some are active even without the underlined character, in which case the active character is the first one, e.g. on Scripts menu (which is only visible if scripts are present).
Hi Rob
Thanks to your answer as well (see above).
I'm using a wacom tablet, so probably I would rather assing the valid keystroke strings to various short cut triggers in the tablet which is quite easy to do
The main problem for me is to know what are those strings (your point 3), where could I find the relevant documentation? I did some google search previously but didn't find anything useful.
(E.g. concerning this particular string - do I need to hold ALT pressed when typing all 3 characters, or just when typing P...from the script it seems that the latter is the case. How about any other command strings?)
Thanks for your help!
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Risto, I understand your frustration. However, I don't think Adobe needs to document the standard Windows keyboard-accelerator shortcuts -- that is a standard feature of the Windows operating system, and no mainstream program I'm aware of documents them.
There are 4 Photo > Edit In commands that don't have underlines: Open As Smart Object, Open As Layers, Merge To Panorama, Merge To HDR. This is because by default, the shortcut letter is the first letter of the command, and there are two commands starting with "O" and two with "M". But as Rob Cole explained above, you can still select those commands by typing "O" or "M" one or two times and then hitting Enter. That is standard Windows behavior.
Adobe could improve the keyboard accelerators for the Edit In menu by explicitly assigning letters to these four commands. E.g. it could assign "S" to Open As Smart Object. This would cause the "S" to be underlined, and it would save you one or two extra keystrokes. I've submitted that request as a separate topic:
Risto wrote: "I guess this also leaves me without a solution for shortcuts for commands that are opening photos in external programs other than photoshop..."
You can use the standard Windows accelerator keystrokes to invoke those commands. For example, if you have an external editor preset named "Gimp", you could invoke it by typing ALT-P E G (since G is the first letter of the submenu command "Gimp").
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Many thanks to you all who have helped in finding a solution this problem and that's really the only/main thing that matters to me.
However ( :-) ), even though I'm not saying that Adobe needs to document windows behaviour I think Adobe needs to make sure that their customers are happy and won't change from Lightroom e.g. to DXo (where to my understanding short cuts work better). I don't think they should expect Microsoft to document that in Lightroom the short cut to "Open as Photoshop layers is "ALT+PEOO" and for some reason the corresponging accelerator key is not underlined even though it is underlined in command "Open in Photoshop".
When I look back to this and many other related discussions that I found in web I can observe the following
- numerous requests about LR short cuts
- many answers like:
* "in Mac you can assign short cuts to any menu items but not in Windows"
* "there is one third party SW that can do the trick, but it costs about the same amount of money as LR itself"
* "there is one open source sw that can be used but there is no good support to it"
* "there is a script that you can use/create to assing a keyboard short cut to "open as a smart object"
Why all those work around solutions when the real answer to the problem is that YES there are short cuts to those commands and YES they can easily be assigned e.g. to Wacom tablets (but they only need to be documented somewhere).
Don't get we wrong, I'm really honestly happy that I got your support and I found the solution (I just need to use trial & error method to find the correct key strokes to my external editors, I think there are matching first letters among them...). This will make my workflow with LR, Photoshop etc SW MUCH smoother when using those short cuts with my Wacom tablet. Probably it's the fact that I have been responsible for customer support in one fairly big interational company and I think that suppliers need to feel their responsbility for keeping threir customers happy.
Once again: thank you! (I might still have a look in DXo as I was told that they have some algorithms that work better for micro contrast than "clarity" in LR/ACR)
This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Keyboard shortcuts in Lightroom.
One useful feature in Photoshop that is not available in Lightroom that would be helpful is the ability to modify and / or define keyboard shortcuts.
Aperture has a great implementation of customizing keyboard shortcuts. As a new Lightroom user I would love to see Lightroom have a feature as easy to use as that!
Why is this not "Under Consideration"?
Would this even be difficult to implement?
Seeing as the original request was over 4 years ago, it would have been implemented long ago if Adobe hadn't apparently decided against it would be my guess, although I'm just speculating.
With every new release of Lightroom, I feel pretty confident that customisable keyboard shortcuts are on its way.
With every new release of Lightroom, I'm disappointed... :(
It's not just a matter of making for a more pleasant experience, as with any customisation: with LR, there are 2 extra factors that make keyboard redefinable shortcuts a must IMHO:
1) If setting LR to "english" on non english keyboards, some shortcuts are simply impossible to use. I've tried to simulate the key-presses with auto-hotkey and other apps, to no avail.
2) Keyboard shortcuts are not consistent between acr/ps and LR. I would like to be given the ability to choose (consistency among applications vs. LR specific shortcuts)
I wish this will be considered some day, although I must admit that over the years I've grown so used to this limitation, that sometimes I'm not sure it's worth it anymore. Still... I'll keep hoping for it.
Can't believe this hasn't been implemented yet. Everyone's brain works differently, everyone has different shortcut keys that they are already used to. Having to relearn a whole new set, that puts emphasis on the actions and shortcuts YOU think are important does nothing whatsoever to help me.
Please make this happen.
There are so many functions I use hundreds of time for each set of pictures that require me to click 2-3 times. Assigning these often-used tasks to a keyboard shortcut could potentially speed up productiveness a lot.
Please get those configurable shortcuts into the engineering plan for the next Lightroom CC version.
Thanks ...
This will most likely be one of the, if not the biggest obstacle for people trying to switch from Aperture to Lightroom.
Not only can't you change the shortcuts to what you've used to, but some of the keys are just mad when using a non-US keyboard.
Toggling between original and modified image in Aperture (M key by default, or anything you choose).
In Lightroom, SHIFT + ALT + 7.
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Yeah, at a minimum it will be LR 7, since Adobe rarely introduces new features in minor releases.
Why not assign a single letter like "a"? I'm sure there are lots of other letters available too.
Coming from Aperture and having used "m" for years...
Damn right. Customisable keyboard shortcuts is, well... key.


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An Educational Initiative on non-pharmacological treatment and correction of Anxiety Dis-orders.
117.M people in America suffer with Anxiety disorder, and currently the medical & mental health establishment believes only medications, many of them addictive is the cure! It is NOT, they are merely be a bridge to amend, to calm the horrid symptoms, but the 'cure' is seeking a qualified clinical counseling hypnotherapist to deal and clear the root/core issue at the subconscious levels of mind activity, where habituation arises, and literally straighten the 'kink', permanently.
Not all people have sustained anxiety, most people will have in the least an episode in their life time, then there are others in which Anxiety Disorder is situational, such as having to give a presentation or report to your colleagues, Public speaking anxiety is the number one leading situational anxiety dealt with, so it is only upon those circumstances it rears it's ugly head. So, 117m American's dealing and/or suffering encompasses all of the manifestations of anxiety disorders from Situational, General (being uncomfortable in your own skin) OCD, PTS &D, Panic attacks, Agoraphobia, Eating disorders (body dysmorphia) Phobias, some Depressive disorders, Addictions (often self regulating/medicating)... to name the majority of underlying anxiety and anxiety dis-orders.
There are currently 27 drugs in the market and 600 being designed by drug manufactures...and these but deal with the SYMPTOMS, not the underlying core/root issues. There are reliable, effective, non drug treatment to deal, clear and relieve Anxiety Disorder. Is this what we want, 117.M people medicated? Not says I, with a qualified clinical hypnotherapist the disorder can be Eradicated, Corrected, Relieved... really, I do it every day in my practice. Every Day.
It is time to educate Doctors, Healthcare Practitioners, all level of mental/ healthcare providers on Anxiety/Panic disorders, as well as the public.
Lawren Jones
Jan 14 2013: That's absolutely correct, Fritzie. Therapists do indeed teach a several coping strategies to manage anxiety that work alongside medication.Jan 17 2013: If this were true Robert, I wouldn't have launched the initiative. I have stated everything in the write up of the initiative, pretty straight forward and to the point, perhaps you would like to review it.
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I look forward to chatting afterwards. Warmest regards, and thank you for your statistics, KateJan 17 2013: Kate, What specifically is your idea. I am sure that doctors, etc ... are well aware of alternatives. As far as the public I am not so sure. Unless there is a direct impact then most, to be honest, are probally not interested.
I worked one summer at a State Mental Hospital in Illinois. Once the patient is committed very few ever visit. I found also that we, Americans, tend to throw money at a problem in hopes it will go away. We have ineffective programs in place for the poor, etc .. as a soother of the conscience.
Decisions are often made by teachers that have a disruptive child in their class ... this same teacher has no children and demands respect based on the position held. The label has now been stamped on the forehead of the student and it will remain through graduation for the school and for a lifetime with fellow students.
I agree that the root cause is the issue and should be resolved ... in some cases this may be a chemical imbalance and medication IS the answer. In some others it may be as simple as a quest for attention.
I just read a article that stated that 37% of the population in the EU countries have some form of mental illiness. This has become the largest one finicial problem for these countries.
Mental illiness will become one of the major factors being discussed in the Gun Controll Debates so maybe this will bring some enlightenment to the issue.
Please advise me of what you idea is so we can discuss that.
I wish you well from the Arizona High Desert. Bob.Jan 15 2013: Not familiar with blogs Fritzie, but from the tone of your note, my responses are too long.
Yes, admittedly I added an outline as to the nature of anxiety/panic issues, and a approach to the correction of the dis-order.
I appreciate your insight and suggestions. I shall take them into consideration.
As what you say tends to be true in many instances, those whom deal with these issues proverbial ears may as well perk up, and we can move into a deeper, insightful and educative conversation.
I believe in one of the earlier threads I mentioned my intention of the Educational Initiative, which is people being correctly diagnosed and thus referred to clinicians/disciplines which specialize in treatment/correction of anxiety.
People spend years of their lives attempting to gain help, proper treatment. They become entrenched in a system quite often that does not understand anxiety dis-orders and can spend those years being medicated without successful abatement of the horrific, often disabling symptoms. And this is also my main contention and assertion that meds merely mask, not correct anxiety, intensifying an otherwise simple dis-order to correct.
Warmest regards, KateJan 15 2013: Hi, Kate. As you are new here (Welcome!), I'd like to share an observation I believe to be true.
People who engage in the TED Conversations very likely do listen to the TED talks but otherwise are drawn in by conversation and interaction. I don't think people tend to read sequences of long narrative postings by one person or that presenting a thread as you would present a blog is going to get you very much of an audience here.
You may find that you are talking only to yourself in such an approach.
You will see when you explore that the threads are not blog-like. I encourage you to try different approaches if you want to engage people in your topic.Jan 14 2013: 6) Correction & Treatment:
To restore previous 'wiring' or creating the most effective methodology is a two pronged approach, Cognitive behavioral training and Hypnotherapy.
Cognitive training involves learning how your brain and mind functions, knowing you are Safe, in Control and practicing shifting your Thoughts into the Present. This is achieved through controlled breathing techniques, relaxation of *key muscles, sipping room temperature water, to leach the adrenaline out of your system, using a Mint product, such as tea or breath mint and giving yourself messages that all is well. It is foremost your incorrect Thinking that recreates the anxiety or panic.
Hypnotherapy works by accessing the subconscious mind, where the habit pattern is entrenched and re-wired. Your subconscious is that portion of your mind that allows one to effortlessly and smoothly respond to the world. For example: When getting into your vehicle, you do not need to Remember how to drive the car, you simply place the key in the ignition and drive. After driving for a while you habituate yourself to the correct gear to engage, peddle to press, maintaining observance of rear-view and side-view mirrors, sense of space (of vehicle), obeying traffic laws, etc.
Hypnosis, which is simply the shifting of perception or focus, through the process of relaxing the body & focusing the mind, when your body is relaxed both your conscious and subconscious levels of mind activity are more receptive to suggestions & directions and easily gets to the core or root issue of (faulty) anxiety (wiring) and is able to construct the new neuronal pathway often in a singular session. With repeated sessions, usually two additional the re-wiring is complete. With both new skill sets with cognitive training and hypnosis the dis-order is corrected. This is accomplished within three weeks for nearly everyone.
Kate Ellis,ccht.Jan 14 2013: In our modern times, when say you are threatened by a boss and the loss of your job, these instinctual reactions are not an effective or productive reaction. This may affect a response of being chronically late or leaving early. Taking more sick days, having a headache, body aches, stomach issues or sleep issues, procrastination, depression and anxiety or panic.
5) Reaction ~ Response
A Reaction is an automatic, often instinctual or habitual method of coping.
A Response is a thought process and takes consideration, assessment and application.
When your 'wiring' becomes crossed or 'kinked' one needs to be mindful or responsive when anxiety or panic occurs. This involves being Present, in the Now. Anxiety comes from projective thoughts in the Future; fear of not being able to perform, embarrassing oneself, humiliation, rejection, losing control.
When one has reacted several times with anxiety or panic, the strong emotional and physiological symptoms create a secondary neuronal pathway in the brain, this essentially is a groove or habit pattern (wiring) that become ingrained or a new reaction to the circumstances or situations that invoke Fear.
Continued in next commentJan 14 2013: 3) Cycles of Anxiety & Panic disorder:
A; Most everyone will in the least have an anxiety or panic attack in their life time. Often it is situational, such as public speaking, or dealing with the loss of a loved one through either death, desertion, divorce.
B; Other people will have panic attacks over a period of time in dealing with highly stressful circumstances, and then subsides for years.
C: You experience a panic attack, and become overly sensitized to the fear of having another one. You begin to avoid situations that may cause an attack. As you become less and less confident of your abilities to cope, your world becomes smaller and smaller as avoidance becomes a way of life and behavior, further eroding your self confidence. You may have a panic attack while taking an aspirin for a headache, you then associate your panic and that medicine, or any medicine that may alter how you feel.
4) Control of Anxiety & Panic Attacks:
(Many people discover that after a glass of wine or beer they feel calmer and begin using alcohol as a means to control feelings. You are prescribed a prescription for pain and discover you feel better, calmer. You find that when you eat, that the full feeling relieves an inner stress. This now creates secondary issues. )
Take into consideration that anxiety is a frame of mind. By gathering your thoughts, and shifting focus, this will immediately relive anxiety. Anxiety is often projections or thinking about the future and feeling a lack of control within or over situations or circumstances.
Anxiety/Panic is created by your Fight or Flight Response, 200,000 years in the making during human evolution. It is a protective instinct in which if you are mortally threatened, your brain automatically, without your thinking about it reacts by releasing adrenaline into your system providing the energy of either fighting/protecting yourself or fleeing/running far away from the threat. Your brain is wired to survive. Continued...Jan 14 2013: What is Anxiety & Panic Attacks:
0) Symptoms:
Racing thoughts, racing heart, sweating of hands, feet, overly sensitive to sound, dry mouth, upset stomach, vomiting, diarrhea, feeling like you are having a heart attack, feeling as though you are dying, feeling like you are going to pass out, feeling as though you are going to lose control and act inappropriate...embarrassing yourself, migraine headaches, chronic pain even thought there is no injury, feeling like you want to run away, feeling like you need to hide.
1) Roots of Anxiety & Panic Attacks:
A; General anxiety is often created and fostered in childhood. Being told by a parent or authority figure (someone we look up to, admire, love, respect) that you are not good enough... either through word or by not validating/supporting your efforts, an absent parent) We have a deep sense of being inadequate. You fear the future, as something out of your control.
B: There are two main expressions of a panic attack; 1) Situational; Being put on the spot, such as having to speak in public.
2) A Trauma occurred 2 - 2 1/2 years ago, and out of the blue you experience a panic attack during the most mundane, routine task, such as being at the grocery store shopping.
2) Causes of Anxiety & Panic Attacks:
A; Anxiety disorders tend to run in families. They are expressed in a variety of ways, some may have a panic disorder or some call it a nervous disorder. Many people self medicate through alcohol, street or prescription drugs, body dysmorphia, anorexia/bulimia, weight issues/emotional eating. Other family members may have phobia's, such as a paralyzing aversion to heights, enclosed places, crowds, animals.
B; Panic: A trauma occurred 2 - 2 1/2 years ago, and out of the blue you experience a panic attack during the most mundane, routine task, such as being at the grocery store shopping.
Continued next comment...Jan 14 2013: For some reason, besides not being able to upload my photo, I cannot see a message left by Carolyn, concerning the pharmacological interests. So I shall reply to the little bit I had seen.
I am not concerned by the pharmaceutical industry. There is enough room for everyone. I have great respect for many medications, even though things are going to extremes as far as side effects go. My avocation is that when a patient presents with anxiety dis-order, if the physician or mental health worker is not familiar with how to deal with it and help the patient release the symptoms, medication can help with the referral to a specialist.
This is one of my biggest grips, that often meds are prescribed and that is it. Until I realized that doctors and mental health workers are ignorant, uneducated that there is actually disciplines available to correct the dis-order. Hence, this launch of the Educational Initiative on the treatment and correction of anxiety dis-orders.
Anxiety is Fear based, often projections into the future, feeling out of control, a real sense of powerlessness.
Anxiety is often projections or thinking about the future and feeling a lack of control within or over situations or circumstances. Anxiety/Panic is created by your Fight or Flight Response, 200,000 years in the making during human evolution. It is a protective instinct in which if you are mortally threatened, your brain automatically, without your thinking about it reacts by releasing adrenaline into your system providing the energy of either fighting/protecting yourself or fleeing/running far away from the threat. Your brain is wired to survive. KateJan 14 2013: When you utilize cognitive techniques with hypnotherapy, it corrects the dis-order, and no medications are necessary, I spend more time helping clients detox from meds than the actual correction of the anxiety dis-order Lawren. I am in contact with my very first anxiety I worked with over 20 years ago, and she is still anxiety attack free.
Think of it like breaking ones' leg, you go to an orthopedic, they set the bone, and once the body does it's natural healing work, the bone is fixed. You do not need to baby it or worry about fracturing it again. It is fixed. Just like anxiety, once it is corrected, you're done with it forever.Jan 14 2013: Lawren, as a clinical counseling hypnotherapist, I have specialized in anxiety disorders for over 20 years and have helped people correct the dis-order. I hyphenate "disorder" because it is an issue of incorrect thinking that initiate the fight/flight response. By using cognitive therapy techniques and hypnotherapy it effectively corrects it.
I do have an agenda, the eradication of anxiety and panic attacks. To educate people such as yourself who may have undergone a slew of treatments from medicines to perhaps psychotherapy with little results. Lawren, if you have a heart condition, you will not seek out a podiatrist, you would seek the consult and expertise of a cardiologist. Same situation here. With anxiety issues, you would seek out a specialist in this area, such as myself.
I suggest you educate yourself on CBT & hypnotherapy, and reclaim your life back. The chemical imbalance you speak of is the adrenaline release and subsequent fear of the symptoms in an ugly cycle that occurs is the true imbalance. With proper consult training and correct at the subconscious level one can not only receive relief, but complete control.
The hypnosis attribute goes into the subconscious where the core or root issue exists. All of your habitual behavior is at the subconscious level, such as driving. When you get into your vehicle, you d not have to remember how to drive, you simply stick the key into the ignition and go about your way. The subconscious is that portion of the mind that allows us to smoothly operate in the world. When one has repeated anxiety attacks, in becomes for intents and purposes a habitual response of fear.
I hope this broadens your understanding and the threshold of gaining your life back now that you know what specific approach to correct your anxiety. Best regards, KateJan 14 2013: Speaking as one who suffers from anxiety disorders, I'm afraid you need a bit of education yourself, or most likely you have an personal agenda. Most disorders are caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain, not external triggers. You cannot effectively treat chemical imbalances with hypnotherapy.
Fritzie -
Jan 14 2013: Lawren, would you say that people with anxiety disorders tend to use a variety of strategies rather only one to help them manage their anxiety? I don't have personal experience or expertise in this area, but don't people use practices like meditation, self-talk, and exercise even if they are also taking medication?
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I interpreted your comment as saying that medicine is vital for some people but not necessarily precluding the usefulness of other complementary practices.
Is that correct?


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