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Friday, May 29, 2015
U16G - U16 Girls Youth Soccer
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Hard to understand why Atletica was placed in same Showcase bracket with Copa, Quickstrike and YMS. There's NJ State champion, NY East State champion, PA East State champion... and Atletica.
- May 1, 2015 at 11:31 AM
Because it's PDA. Look at it this way, you should be surprised they even let those other teams in the showcase.
- May 1, 2015 at 11:35 AM
Heard coach of Breakers wouldnt drink the tea and was shown the door.
- May 1, 2015 at 6:38 PM
Yes I am surprised that they let those other PDA teams into the Showcase. Conveintly they make sure the ECNL never get to play the non ECNL teams.Can't risk another embarresment like Jeff Cup. Athletica parents must be requesting new bracket by now for their own tournament. Cops is weakest of three teams they will play. Gunners will be seen on Athletica team that weekend. No doubt.
- May 1, 2015 at 9:02 PM
9:02 Your daughter is 15 and will moving out of the house in a few years. It's time to grow up and move on.
- May 2, 2015 at 12:15 AM
Where is PDA Breakers coach going? He is very successful? What happened?
- May 2, 2015 at 7:14 AM
Great job by PDA, buy arguably the second best team in the state, screw the coach and tell him he's out after one season and PDA will say how they "developed" the team. To bad coach decided to get involved with the PDA he was close to having a team good enough to compete with the gunners without going there.
- May 2, 2015 at 3:10 PM
I am new to EDP. My daughter has never played in this league before.
Is a Coach allowed to change the field on game day just because he prefers one over another? (turf/grass)
Are they allowed to use guest players from another team at the same club? At the start of the game I overheard the parents saying one player was helping them out and later at the start of the 2nd half I heard a different group of parents talking and it seems there was more than one player from another team.
- May 2, 2015 at 6:19 PM
Live from the Pride NJ Cup game, Gunners are present and playing. Why cant PDA just play nice?
- May 3, 2015 at 2:59 PM
@2:59 - highly doubt it. If that's the case which gunners are playing - what are their numbers?
- May 3, 2015 at 3:04 PM
Trying to figure out this imaginary EDL NPL, so do all these regular EDP games for Copa, and others just get double counted for NPL? Looks like NPL schedules show no games played, is this a sham? Take games and post to 2 leagues?
- May 3, 2015 at 3:40 PM
PDA Shore Breakers 5. SJEB 0 - final score
- May 3, 2015 at 5:55 PM
Big loser today,game could have been 8-0 please don't blame the Referees.
- May 3, 2015 at 8:57 PM
Congrats pda your kids are the elite of NJ soccer but it's time u enjoy their youth instead of constantly posting about it 24/7
- May 3, 2015 at 9:28 PM
Congrats PDA, your kids are the elite of NJ soccer, but it's time you actually enjoy their youth instead of posting about it 24/7!!
- May 3, 2015 at 9:29 PM
Played a PDA team the other day and they beat us but the girls still were crying because they were getting screamed at. They beat us 6-0.
- May 3, 2015 at 9:35 PM
Sorry not 6-0 I meant 13-0
- May 3, 2015 at 9:41 PM
Should be two great semi final games. Four solid teams. Exactly who belongs there. Good luck to all of them. Hope I'm free to see both games. Predictions?
- May 3, 2015 at 10:06 PM
If it's true that PDA used some Gunners girls to "stack" their teams, it really does disservice to the girls on Breakers/Pride/Atletica. Doesn't the club think that their own teams could compete and go all the way without help? Won't the win (if it happens) be tainted in some way?
- May 3, 2015 at 10:38 PM
There are no Gunners playing on the Breakers. It's the same 16 girls that have played since the beginning of the season. Roster hasn't changed. Maybe people should attend a game to see for themselves. All this PDA conspiracy nonsense is really getting old. Get over it, move on and focus on the soccer.
- May 3, 2015 at 10:45 PM
Those of you stating PDA is "stacking" other teams with Gunners players are just plain ignorant American parents. PDA is an Academy, all their players belong to the club. The can mix/match any players in any team as they choose.
Goes to show you don't know anything about Futbol. This is how it's done in the rest of the world.
Get over it.
- May 3, 2015 at 10:58 PM
Regardless what everyone thinks, the #4 team SJEB got crushed by a PDA team that is not ranked. It just goes to show that Got Soccer is skewed and SJEB is not a top team in NJ. Say what you want about PDA, they won in convincing fashion. Either Breakers are really good or SJEB is so overrated. Pick your poison.
- May 3, 2015 at 11:00 PM
@ 9:35.. Did you hear them getting screamed at? The fact of the matter is that they were crying because their coach let them know he will no longer be their coach after this season. He actually praised them for their play against your team, what was there to yell at them about?
- May 3, 2015 at 11:01 PM
Got it. So we should expect to see some girls primarily rostered to Pride/Breakers/Atletica playing in the ECNL showcase bracket at the upcoming tournament? Good to know.
- May 3, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Did the Pride v Stronghold game go to OT?
- May 4, 2015 at 12:03 AM
Yes, exactly. If your daughter is good enough to be promoted from Atletica/Pride/Breakers they will get promoted to ECNL.My daughter played for Atletica and they took the best players and relegated those that were not performing.
It's a system - if you have 80 girls on 4 U-15 teams, why would you no NOT do this? it would be stupid to keep teams just because of what, chemistry? It's an Academy, you town team people would not understand.
Your daughter gets to play at the appropriate level - isn't that what you want?
- May 4, 2015 at 12:05 AM
@11pm Shore Breakers are currently ranked 6th in NJ; when they were NJSA04 Bulldogs they were ranked #1 in NJ at one point. If anyone has followed the girls you would see that this team plays a good technical game. Regardless of the individual scores/wins/losses per game, if you watched them play you would see they have always played a good game. Like any team they have wins and losses but they compete at most levels. Last year they went to the NY NPL Finals against NEFC and were tied 0-0 through the entire game, two overtimes and lost in PK's. They work hard and they play hard and that's just a fact. It's just about the soccer - no theatrics, no shirt/shorts pulling, no dirty physical play. Anyone who's been around soccer long enough should know that rankings don't paint an accurate picture. Some teams chase points, while others have their success measured by whether they played a good, solid, technical game. Often times good teams aren't represented by their gotsoccer points.
- May 4, 2015 at 12:11 AM
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- May 4, 2015 at 7:27 AM
The Gunners brought a kid up to play from the Breakers recently. If you kid doesn't play for PDA how do you really even know anything?
- May 4, 2015 at 8:39 AM
I live in South Jersey, yesterday I figured I would take my daughter to watch what I thought would be a very competitive game between Breakers and Barons. Breakers were solid from start to finish and Barons looked like they were overwhelmed by the intensity level Breakers played at. I was very impressed with Breakers but will be more impressed if they can play that way again this coming weekend. Sometimes it's just your day, we will see. Hats off to a solid performance by Breakers and good luck to all teams in Semifinals.. any predictions? Let's try to keep it mature with comments, no need to bash any of the teams left standing. Let's go.......
- May 4, 2015 at 9:00 AM
Copa and Breakers in final
Breakers take it 3-1
- May 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM
Pride and Breakers in Finals. PDA wins
- May 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM
I think 12:05 is discussing the wrong issue. Every other ecnl club BUT PDA takes the top kids by u14 from their 4 teams, to be on the ECNL squad. PDA instead has a model where they keep their 4 teams seoarate with zero to little consolidation. But I am hearing now at the U13 age that PDA finally realized they are not competitive with the "4 separate teams" approach and are managing an 80 girl roster ecnl squad instead.
I think what parents are discussing on this U15 blog is the fact that 1) not only does PDA keep their 4 teams separate and not integrate girls on teams B-D into their ECNL squad, but they go 1 step further and 2) bring Gunners girls to teams B-D to bolster the rosters of those teams. It's half ass backwards and doesn't develop the girls on the satellite teams if gunners girls are sent in to win the big games.
So yes academy teams typically give opportunity to various kids to guest with the top team, but at U15 age PDA seems to just give opportunity to ecnl girls to play games for all 4 teams.
- May 4, 2015 at 11:49 AM
To be considered a true academy the movement needs to be an equal amount of upward and downward movement of players thru out the year. PDA rarely uses any upward movement and moves players down after tryouts when a new fresh face comes in, this is nothing more than form of relegation. To me this is not true development for an academy program. Players are not sent down for development, they are sent down to clear space. I believe the Gunners are outstanding but for the life of me I can't understand the rational and fixation of parents wishing to have kids on the other PDA teams.
- May 4, 2015 at 12:14 PM
There is opportunity to move from one of the other teams (Breakers/Pride/Atletica) but no one says it is easy. Gunners has open practices where players from each of those teams have been invited to train with the Gunners. It's up to the players themselves to work hard and show the coach what they have to offer. If what they offer is similar to what the current Gunners players already bring to the table, why would the coach move an established player (one whom has been committed to the team and has played and contributed) in exchange for a player with whom he knows very little about and brings nothing new except a name, face and/or personality? If a player can show that they have a unique skillset, ability/quality (speed, athleticism, vision, etc . . .) in addition to technical skill - then there is no reason why that player won't be given an opportunity with the Gunners. It has been done. Has it been done often? Probably not. But clearly, just being the best player on your team isn't enough to guarantee a spot on the Gunners. One would think you have to offer something to add value to their current team. Again in a true academy setting, players move up and down - but with regard to the downward movement - it's up to the individual players to correct their weaknesses and work on their game try to work their way back up again. It keeps the environment competitive and players hungry. That's the way it is in professional sports as well.
- May 4, 2015 at 12:38 PM
Funny that we are talking about a promotion/ relegation system for players, but we have no such promotion/relegation system for teams. The system makes it clear that there are clubs and leagues that get teams more exposure than others and this is done at the exclusion of other very good clubs. People go to PDA because the club carries weight and people are willing to play for those teams because of that exposure. There is no denying that the the non-ECNL PDA teams have been successful at getting more kids into colleges and likely colleges a level or 2 above where they would have gotten on academics alone.
The shame in the system is it encourages kids to leave their current teams to grasp at the hope and exposure that PDA provides. Why else would kids stay with teams that are no better than any of the other top 10-15 teams in NJ.
What we need is a true promotion/relegation system for teams so that kids are not encouraged to leave their current team based on a club name or exposure. The Northeast NPL is a perfect example where there is a huge gap between the top teams and the bottom teams. That would be a league that would improve and benefit from promotion an relegation there are many leagues that would benefit from that system, but of course that is not in the interest of the larger powerful clubs.
- May 4, 2015 at 1:14 PM
May 3, 11:01: What coach is leaving? Is that Atletica, Pride, or Breakers?
- May 4, 2015 at 1:19 PM
With all due respect I will say my kid is no longer at PDA and believe it or not I always thought well I at the time I will admit that I thought the grass was greener on the other side at Matchfit only to find out that it is no different and in my opinion I feel it has been worse. Now we have 24 players and believe it or not we have allowed people to play on this team and not even practice. How does a club or Academy allow this. There are some many things that I just shake my head with what they are becoming. Our coach doesn't even run the team well he exact words to me " I ONLY WORK FOR MATCHFIT." So does this mean he is not calling the shots? Oh I forget the guy that happens to be a builder who buys all his lumber from him call the shots and this I know because he told me so, but at the time I did not care. How much longer can we take this and now my kid isn't playing and only gets minimal minutes due to all the pockets the coach is in. Yes I am F'ing pissed and I know we won't be here for long and they want me to give them $1900 so that my kid can fly out to Seattle with a chaperone and told me no parents are allowed to travel with the team……..kiss my #$##$ we shall see if that happens buddy. I will say for $2900 a year this isn't worth it. BUYER BEWARE
- May 4, 2015 at 1:42 PM
when you say PDA Gunners are outstanding, what exactly do you mean? As team? individually? Clearly PDA focus on winning teams to promote the brand. Not hard to comprehend. Gunners play a solid team game, very focused on tactics. If you feel you need/want the PDA brand, go for it - hating on them makes no sense at all. They are entitled to do whatever they see fit to get players or teams the exposure they want. That is why you choose PDA. Lets say a player needs to gain confidence, why not use her in another team? Who does it really impact? The people complaining are those that have not really placed winning these games in their true perspective.
My kid does not play for PDA, but I respect what they continue to achieve in terms of the teams they field and the players they produce.
- May 4, 2015 at 1:51 PM
Here's my 2 cents:
Pulling kids up to a higher level team to challenge them - Good Approach
Pushing kids down because they are not competing well at their current level - Good Approach
Pushing kids down to help a lower team win a game (If this is happening) is wrong.
Kids should be challenged to compete at their most appropriate level whether up or down. Stacking a team with better kids to win a game teaches the kids on that team a bad lesson and tells them they are not good enough. I have no clue whether PDA does this, but if they do, shame on them.
As for the rest, it's great to be at a club that gives you that possibility. My sense is that it doesn't happen as much as it should.
- May 4, 2015 at 2:02 PM
Have the Gunners pulled a single player up to play in a game this year from the 3 other PDA teams? Real question, not trolling. This will answer alot of questions and put an end to much of this discussion. Practice does not count. Anyone who can verify this?
- May 4, 2015 at 2:37 PM
@237 only PDA can truly answer your question. Only they can tell you if they have players deserving of that or not. Parents opinion really does not count.
- May 4, 2015 at 3:03 PM
As a PDA U15 parent, PDA has pulled at players from Non ECNL teams up this season. Fact! Go to the games this weekend and see for yourself just how many ECNL players fill in for the Breakers, none! Fact! It's easy to throw stones and assume different things, go see for yourself. Teams are set for the weekend, schedule is posted, if you follow PDA so much, you will know which kid is an original Breaker player, Pride player and a Gunner player filling in. What if the players from Breakers, Pride and Athletica are ok with being on said teams, with 2 teams in the Semifinals and one that made the Quarterfinals, it's obviously still a pretty good product. Remember, the Breakers were the Bulldogs before PDA, nothing has changed but the letters on their jersey. The parents agreed to switch clubs, they were not forced to.
- May 4, 2015 at 3:18 PM
I can't tell you about this season or last season, but 2 seasons ago, they brought 2 gunners to FC Delco, those two players and 2 others played in about 6 games that year if not a few more.
- May 4, 2015 at 3:20 PM
Gunners have invited one to two players from Pride to some practices but they will never play for the Gunners. It is to hush up us parents who want the promises made to us at try outs to be met.
- May 4, 2015 at 3:23 PM
3:18 you are joking right. Atletica and Pride have a good product. They can't compete in major tournaments, and they play in a pretty piss poor NPL League. 2 of the 3 teams had byes in the first round, and look at the teams that they have played. It was a pretty easy prediction to guess that they would get a few teams to the semi finals. If the Pride beat Copa, maybe you have a point. Look at the schedules.
It is fine for people to be happy to be on their teams. I'm pretty sure there just a few unhappy people on both teams who stay because of the carrot dangled out in front of them.
- May 4, 2015 at 3:26 PM
3:23 There is a Pride player from last year who plays for the Gunners this year.
- May 4, 2015 at 3:33 PM
Ok we will go with FACTS. Discussion over lets all move on. Anything of interest unrelated to PDA to discuss. Team movements? Folding Teams? New Programs? Coaches leaving or moving?
- May 4, 2015 at 3:39 PM
Epic Tournament this weekend, a lot of regional teams there. Can we have a good soccer discussion about that without the soccer snobs coming into the discussion.
- May 4, 2015 at 3:58 PM
@ 3:18.. a good product within NJ, not talking about other states unless you are taking your child to those states to tryout. FYI, Breakers (Bulldogs)roster has been the same for last 3 years give or take 1 or 2 players. You can not state facts if you are on the outside looking in. Fact!
- May 4, 2015 at 3:58 PM
@ 3:26, if there is a carrot being dangled in front of parents, please state the club your daughter plays for and why you choose to have her play there. My daughter plays For PDA BREAKERS, yours? I have never had a carrot dangled in front of me.. your turn!
- May 4, 2015 at 4:05 PM
Coach DG of the PDA breakers formerely the Bulldogs has done a great job of developing the girls
Another parent on the team recently commented to me that all the girls are contributing and that's why
We have been so
Successful and that comes from years of developing, it seems like its
All coming together now Perhaps DG realizes the girls need to move on and that there in a good place , time to be more involved with his kids ... So he is ok letting go
He is not the kind of guy that would let Pda tell him what to do unless he really thought it was bestfor the girls.
Want to wish him and his family the best of luck !
- May 4, 2015 at 4:28 PM
FACT. PDA needed a spot for a coach whose very successful( TRFC mind you) team has maxed out in age. Fact . Asked DG to move to younger team. Fact. He said NO. Fact . They said ok , see ya. Fact. There is your team being gobbled up by the monster. Fact. No girls spot is safe. Welcome to PDA Shore. Dont let the door hit you where the good lord split you.
- May 4, 2015 at 4:52 PM
Your right we been bamboozled
Let someone else develop will take the credit
Don't look into the liiiiiiiiiight !
- May 4, 2015 at 4:58 PM
Well done 428
- May 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM
Would it be better for my daughter who is the top player on a division 1, edp, top division in the 7ish tournaments played, ncs state cup, where coach is not concerned with college and the commitment from the Players, or to Be on a lower team where she is without a doubt best player, lowers divisions, president cup, but coach is willing to help get noticed by colleges and is offering her a spot on the team and to regionals without even trying out? (Please give advice)
- May 4, 2015 at 5:12 PM
Yes 333 because she went to the Gunners try outs. They were tired of the empty promises by the South DOC. Also, she was leaps and bounds stronger then any Pride player.
- May 4, 2015 at 5:53 PM
So what you are sayinggis that the system worked for a kid that outgrown her current team. The stuff about broken promises seems to be your own bitterness that has destroyed this blog.
- May 4, 2015 at 6:20 PM
Not really understanding your cry about empty promises from the "south DOC"?
What would you like this man to do for you? He said he would train your kid/give her a great learning environment. Not perform a bloody miracle! If you don't want to "drink the PDA kool-aid" continue drinking the PISS! from the other side. But i promise you, the kool-aid is much sweeter.
(# its lonely @ the top)
- May 4, 2015 at 11:55 PM
Lonely at the top? Envy of the ECNL? As I read this, there is only 1 team maybe at the top an they haven't been able t o beat match fit in there last 2 games. Two are average or worse and have never one any real competition, and the third was built was built outside of PDA. Yeah, your belief of being at the top is drinking the Kool-aid much like believing you are at the top.
- May 5, 2015 at 7:19 AM
My daughters do not play for PDA and love soccer and the club they play for.There are other options out there. It's about the kids, not about parents who want trophy children.
- May 5, 2015 at 8:50 AM
No one is saying that PDA is the only option. Parents forget that above all else, your daughter has to love the game. My daughter is on the Breakers and was on the Bulldogs before that. These girls love the game and each other. Are they considered the best of the best? No, but it doesn't matter because they play hard for themselves,their coach and each other. As a parent I'm proud of that. However, the reality is that PDA will open doors that aren't necessarily available to everyone. It's not a guarantee, but it gives you opportunities. Once there, it's up to your daughter to make something happen. Sometimes it's a hard pill to swallow but maybe your daughter isn't what they are looking for at the time or at that age group. More often than not it's about timing and knowing your child, their strengths, weaknesses and limitations. People have to be realistic. There are tons of different levels of soccer and sometimes the child may not play (or want to play) at the level that their parents want them to. But bashing an organization/team and making sweeping generalizations just rings like sour grapes. No one on this team is drinking kool aid. No one is dangling golden carrots in our faces. We're here as parents because this is where our girls want to be - with girls who are focused on the same goals, a coach who has put his heart into this team and these girls and parents who enjoy watching their daughters do what they love. You can bash PDA all you want but it's about choices. If you don't like your daughter's situation, you have the choice to pick her up and find a better place for her. No one makes you keep your child in a bad place. Instead of bad mouthing you can CHOOSE to walk away and find the ideal situation for your child. But that requires you to be realistic about your expectations. I just tell my daughter that it's all up to her - what she wants to do. The minute that she stops loving it - it's done. But as long as she's hungry and wants more, we will support her 100%. The best thing you can do as a parent is be realistic and keep expectations in perspective. If your daughter wants to play in college - there are literally hundreds of college programs available. Different levels for everyone. Ask your daughter what she wants, listen to her and then do what you can to realistically help her acheive her goals. I love to watch my daughter and her friends play. I love to watch good soccer and good competition. Is losing disappointing? Yes. But you can always learn something from it and come away with a positive instead of a negative.
- May 5, 2015 at 9:42 AM
Why all the bashing of PDA South? Can someone please enlighten me? Are players leaving Pride?
- May 5, 2015 at 9:47 AM
9:42 Everything that is you say is 100% correct. The Breakers are a different story they are a new PDA, I was at PDA for 5 years, I will not rehash history that has been put on this board, but I believe PDA has left a trail of a lot of disgruntled people. Player turnover on a club is normal and winning and losing on a team is normal, but the character of a club is how you treat your players during adversity and yes when someone is on their way out by their own choosing or by the coach's doing and I have seen a few really bad examples.
- May 5, 2015 at 9:59 AM
Who is going to coach PDA Breakers? What is the deal with Match Fit? Any girls looking to leave?
- May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM
@ 12:56 Not just Match Fit but at most clubs I would say that most girls who are looking to leave are probably the kids that aren't getting quality minutes. The problem at this age group is where can you go where you won't have the same problem. It's difficult to take minutes from another kid who's been with a team unless the new kid is significantly better. If the kid is significantly better then they probably would've got more minutes with their existing club.
Our egos sometimes get in the way of finding the right level of play.
- May 6, 2015 at 7:23 AM
Looks like a PDA v PDA final this weekend, get to settle it on the field.
- May 6, 2015 at 11:21 AM
Yep, let's just skip the semifinals. Have the Pride ever beaten Copa?
- May 6, 2015 at 12:43 PM
Never. Does this mean they're def showing up with 6 Gunners? Lol
- May 6, 2015 at 2:31 PM
Will PDA allow their EDP team to beat their NPL team??? Would love to be a fly on the PDA boardroom wall now.
- May 6, 2015 at 3:07 PM
Not going to get that far, Copa wins 3-1 on Saturday and takes the finals.
- May 6, 2015 at 3:53 PM
Copa TRE Final. Take the pdas out of the equation.
- May 6, 2015 at 4:07 PM
Trying to decide on a team for my child!
NJ Stallions or NJ Crush?
What is your opinion about these two organizations?
- May 7, 2015 at 12:34 AM
The Stallions are the better choice for you, SC is a tough trainer but you will learn something. Crush team is a a glorified Northern Counties team, they brought in the Arsenal Crossfire team in full along with the coaches. These are are daddy coaches and it is obvious. If you are gonna pay the stiff fees for both I would think the Stalllions training would be a better value. There is no place for Daddy ball at this age at this level. Not one but two Daddys coaching Crush Crossfire.
- May 7, 2015 at 5:39 AM
@539 Disagree on SC. A certain type of kid may thrive in that environment. Others, not so much. You would need to know a lot more about the child/family to make a recommendation.
- May 7, 2015 at 8:22 AM
I agree SC not for everyone, good trainer if they can take the rest.
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- May 7, 2015 at 12:16 PM
Anything interesting happening at tryouts?
- May 7, 2015 at 2:19 PM
Coach already watch one very successful team he built get taken from him and then they fell apart. why would he stick around to watch the same possibly happen to another?
yes, different club but same situation
- May 7, 2015 at 4:03 PM
@ 4:03 are you talking about the same coach referenced above? I have heard rumors its not working out. Their partner in crime has also just left the club, to head back to NJ Crush. oh well its unfortunate that this kinda crap happens at youth level.
- May 7, 2015 at 5:05 PM
Can someone explain the comments about about Nj Stallions and NJ Crush. If you are not part of the organization you cannot make a smart decision about the best choice for your child.
- May 8, 2015 at 8:25 AM
Yesterday AM, I provided you with a a fairly detailed set of opinions on both teams.
Unfortunately, Mods decided to delete.
My opinions of both teams are not particularly favorable and my post reflected that.
However, what I wrote pales in comparison to some of the of withering criticism that PDA gets on this board so I am at a loss as to why my post was deleted.
If you would like my opinion, post your same question on BOTN in the U15 forum and I will respond to you.
- May 8, 2015 at 9:23 AM
Regarding Stallions and Crush it is very simple.
U15 Crush are coached by a pair of fathers, part of rhe package when they came to Crush from Arsenal. An awful lot of money for NPL to be coached by a father. The NPL record is reflective of this.
With Stallions you get a very qualified coach/trainer with some baggage. Some parents/players love him, other dislike him. You make the choice.
Qualified trainer or Daddy. Baggage vs no baggage.
- May 8, 2015 at 1:56 PM
Yms epic cup predictions? Sure, it's not ecnl or nefc elite but should be good competition..
Bracket 1:
Yms pride
Freehold Celtic
Hershey elite
Hmms pride
Bracket 2:
Eusa buffalo
Fc warrington
Pittsburgh development acad.
Hfc ready
- May 8, 2015 at 2:04 PM
***Huntington valley not hmms pride.***
- May 8, 2015 at 2:07 PM
YMS & EUSA in the finals. Should be a close game, may go to OT or PKs. My guess is EUSA wins.
- May 8, 2015 at 4:42 PM
Good luck to the teams competing in the state cup semi finals tomorrow. I'm planning to watch the games to see some good soccer. I won't make a prediction, just want to see 2 solid games.
- May 8, 2015 at 7:59 PM
We have good friends from all 4 teams in the semis since U-11 and still have regular dinners with a bunch of the families and their daughters.
I have no desire to watch those games and if you didn't know any of the families in the semis, find it really strange that one would come to the games to watch them play.
- May 8, 2015 at 9:07 PM
Then don't go 9:07. Strange comment.
- May 8, 2015 at 9:46 PM
I have not read everything on the comment wall but I will day my daughter has been given great technical training from a paid coach.My issue is that the team has great passing and position but can't win a game even though the have position 90% of the game.We are stuck in a passing game with no finishing and players are becoming stagnant in there positions.We have decided to move on to a team that may not be as technical but have more drive towards the goal and fight for the win.We thought that with my daughters technical training and precise passing she was lacking in aggression.Hopefully the new team will teach her that and she will become an all around good player. The new team has no coaching fees and plays at a higher level as well. State league U-16.Just wanted to comment by saying it may be a value to try different trams and coaching style to build your personal gain.
- May 8, 2015 at 10:14 PM
Sorry lots of spelling errors hard to message from a cell phone. Another issue I encountered is the lack of enthusiasm from the National licensed paid coach.To him he is teaching his specialty (possession) not really exploreing individual strengths or weakneses.He will continue getting a paycheck year after year for having teams that are good but not exceptional. The non paid coach has an excellent team due to his knowledge and passion that spills out onto his teams.His players love him and fight hard to please him, he is invested in each payer and the team as a whole. Paid licensed coaches my work for a while but investment in the team works too! The free coach played in Germany and also played pro indoor in the USA. We are fortunate but there are other knowledgeable rec/non licensed coachs that could do the same or better than licensed ones.
- May 8, 2015 at 10:33 PM
NJ Cup semi-finals scores??
- May 9, 2015 at 3:10 PM
Copa Milan 4 PDA Pride 1
TR Everton 1 PDA Breakers 1 (TRE wins in PKs)
- May 9, 2015 at 3:51 PM
So NO PDA in the finals WOW
- May 9, 2015 at 3:53 PM
The Karma gods apparently didnt like some of the scores that the bullies were winning by. What kind of adult allows a team to beat some other 15 year old girls 13-0. 7-1 5-0 and the like. Shameful! And they paid today. Best 2 teams in the finals anyway. Good luck TRE and Copa Milan.
- May 9, 2015 at 5:05 PM
Yes, good luck to both Copa and TRE! Should be an exciting game. PDA will be making team cuts tomorrow.
- May 9, 2015 at 6:07 PM
So, now can we stop now with the PDA love affair all the time? There are other NJ teams with talent. Good luck to Copa and TR. And also to the PDA shore coach who did a nice job with his team and got pushed out the door. Should've stayed with that other academy.
- May 9, 2015 at 7:24 PM
Looks like Broken Pride in PDA land. Expect some new faces at practice soon.
- May 9, 2015 at 8:49 PM
Good luck to TR Everton and FC Copa!! Great teams!
- May 9, 2015 at 9:31 PM
FC Copa and TRE are both capable of playing solid soccer. From my personal observations COPA at their best may be a bit more technical of a team, but emphasize at their best because I have seen some less skilled play from them (but that happens with most teams at this age group from time to time).
TRE is a pretty solid team playing with a lot of confidence. This is a great match that I plan on going to.
I watched a ton of soccer this weekend so far. In fact I spent several hours up in Zaraphath today watching games from several age groups. Boys and Girls. Decent to very good soccer for most matches.
- May 9, 2015 at 11:27 PM
Stay away from MF. Its not about talent but your ability to feed coaches ego (and buy lumber).
- May 10, 2015 at 5:42 AM
Their u15 ECNL team is 8-2, and at the top of the standings, with wins over PDA and FC Stars.
I highly doubt that all of the "talent" is riding the bench. Whatever the coach is doing, it's working for him.
- May 10, 2015 at 10:27 AM
PDA south coach notorious for cutting girls on Mother's Day. Hopefully back up plans have been in place. Good luck to TRE and COPA, make it a good one.
- May 10, 2015 at 11:04 AM
- May 10, 2015 at 2:56 PM
DC Shore. Were you at the game?
- May 10, 2015 at 2:57 PM
From what I saw today, TRE is a very tough team. 5-2 over Copa. It could have been 6 or 7. Congratulations Toms River on your State Cup title. What did you think DC?
- May 10, 2015 at 4:52 PM
I was indeed at the game. FC Copa's play was not the top of their game. They looked like they were trying to prevent an outcome versus taking it to TRE to dictate the outcome. One of those games were COPA looked more ordinary than usual. It shows you (or maybe just me) how all the 'elite' talk is somewhat nonsense. NO MATTER which team some may talk about. Good and Bad games happen with all teams. Not that Copa played bad, i just don't think they were ready for the kind of play TRE played today.
Yes, agree that TRE came out to win the game as direct as they possibly could (or lose it in the same fashion). OFTEN this is how finals are determined. Not always the best soccer (which it was not) but the most determined/composed team wins.
Both are VERY quality teams in the big picture.
I watched 8 NJ Cup games. Even two blowout games and to be honest this was the most quality I saw from most of the teams than I had ever witnessed before.
Congrats TRE and Copa. You both made it to the dance. A nice tournament top to bottom if you ask me.
- May 10, 2015 at 8:53 PM
Where all the PDA parents at now??
- May 10, 2015 at 9:01 PM
I was up in Zaraphath last night.
While I AM CERTAIN there are lots of happy, happy PDA parents. The two games I watched (u15G and U16g) certainly were not. At least for the most part.
YES, I am saying it. PDA parents are like many non-PDA parents. Focused on winning and results rather than watching/focusing on the quality of development.
The PDA parents should demand more. But they won't. After all, they are the best. *facepalm
- May 10, 2015 at 9:07 PM
Congrats to TRE, it is not easy to come through these competitions. As for PDA, the record shows that the Breakers, the Pride, and Atletica are no different than any other teams competing hard, but the PDA name does not bring anything special. I can't speak for the Gunners because I don't see them often.
As for PDA cutting kids 11:04 AM, we are time where most teams have settled and if you cut kids or push them out the door your not likely to do much better talent wise. There are bunch of kids that were cut or pushed out the door that have been very successful outside of PDA. The coaches strategy of churning anyone who is not on the favorites list has weakened the team year after year. 2-3 years ago where the new 5 have not been better than the 5 that left. The team had a ton of talent and so much promise. Here is one example why the team has fallen apart, 2 years ago when the Pride was playing Copa this same weekend, the assistant coach was coaching and the Pride was winning 5-1 at half. The head coach showed up at half-time and the entire team tensed up - as soon as he showed up the all the threats and fear of tryouts and negativity almost turned an entire team around within minutes the personality of the team shifted. The Pride lost 6-5. 5 of the 6 goals coming after the head coach showed up!
- May 10, 2015 at 11:24 PM
You also need to consistently play tough competition throughout the year. When you play in a sub-par league and play sub-par tournaments, you begin to believe you are. TRE is a good example of a team that has always challenged themselves.
- May 10, 2015 at 11:36 PM
Congratulations to TRE, my daughter and I attended Semifinals and Finals as a fan. Anyone who says TRE and Breakers wasn't the best game of the weekend in the age group is off a bit. The one on one match up between TRE forward and Breakers center back was great to watch at this age, those two teams played very hard against each other. Pride team is not good! Copa did well against Pride but nothing against better competition, I think Breakers may have had a similar result versus Copa. The fast an physical game I saw between TRE and Breakers, I didn't see from Copa and Pride, I have seen Gunners play,2 TRE and Breakers would give them all they can handle, same for Matchfit. All the talk about who is this and that is ridiculous, the gap is very small if any between several of the teams. The two ECNL teams in NJ do not play good soccer, I saw them play a few weeks ago and it wasn't good on the eyes!
- May 11, 2015 at 6:20 AM
@620. When you say, do not play good soccer, what does that actually mean? Surely tactics, the quality of opposition and strategy play a part in how a game plays out. The reality is this, the only player you have to really concern yourself with is your own child. If those teams are not for you, no problem. Good soccer is somewhat irrelevant in matches as the objectives of coaches is usually to play winning soccer. Most development does not occur in game.
- May 11, 2015 at 8:36 AM
@ 8:36, I agree somewhat, this isn't about my team your team, my daughter your daughter! I watched Gunners vs Matchfit a few weeks ago, looked like a tennis match, very little passing to feet, balls in the air most of the game etc. Good competition shouldn't cause you to resort to reckless soccer, development doesn't happen in games but the practices should create development. Your telling me that winning at all cause is the product of that? I watched TRE vs Breakers Saturday, game was played fast, physical while both teams still played a good game. Passes were being connected, both teams played from the back etc, they were both trying to win but still played the game the way they are being taught. They didn't get reckless just to win the game. I'm not bashing any team, it's just what I saw. That isn't the first time I've seen the Gunners play that way, they look good against weaker opponents and bad against good opponents.
- May 11, 2015 at 9:33 AM
Any predictions for this weeks NJYS Championship series games?
TRE & Jersey United
NJ Stallions & SDFC Panthera
- May 11, 2015 at 10:00 AM
11:24 the Pride v Copa game a year ago was a 5-4 win for Copa, with the game determined by who defended better in the mud pit goal.
Both teams met again subsequent to that game in a tournament with normal field conditions, with Copa winning 4-0 or 5-0.
If you're going to quote facts, at least quote all of them.
- May 11, 2015 at 11:18 AM
After watching Pride play on Saturday, I would consider it a blessing if my daughter was cut.
- May 11, 2015 at 2:50 PM
@933 I am telling you exactly that. I am appalled at how low the standard of play becomes at the top of the ECNL when the games are supposed to matter. Especially between the better teams. I will actually rephrase it and say the teams that have "expectations". The soccer becomes win at all costs. Dominated by set pieces with very little build up play thru midfield. It becomes more like the majority of college games, physical soccer. I have seen a lot of ECNL soccer at this age and I believe the top teams are actually better than teams you mention. I think it I hard to compare the two teams you talk about because my gut tells me that there is more time and space in the game you watched. I do not think that we are developing many kids who can play good soccer at high tempo. They do not have high enough soccer IQs to see the game fast enough and they resort to bashing the ball upfield.
- May 11, 2015 at 3:15 PM
11:18 my facts were to the point that the Pride was ahead 4-0 and lost 5-4. I personally think the game changed more based on the coach coming at half time, benching kids that were doing well and moving kids around more than field conditions. The coached arrived and the kids played in fear. Exceptaybe the score nothing else in my facts are wrong,
- May 11, 2015 at 6:12 PM
6:12 is 100% correct. Game completely shifted when the head coach showed up at halftime. Pride lost 5 girls after that game and they have never been the same since. The coach is always looking foe the next best thing.
- May 11, 2015 at 6:51 PM
How about you stick with some one you picked
Bad move coach
No way to go at the end
How much effort did you put into that player
Not much
Bad way to go
You know
See ya ......
- May 12, 2015 at 9:30 PM
Right on !
- May 12, 2015 at 9:43 PM
I guess his next best thing will show up at try outs tonight.
- May 13, 2015 at 6:56 AM
I'm sure you've been told that 20 kids have registered and 3 will show up. Threaten the kids that no one is safe and there will be cuts. Coaching with threats and fear. Now that's a recipe for success. Trust your instincts, there are greener pastures.
- May 13, 2015 at 7:17 AM
Pride or Breakers?
- May 13, 2015 at 8:14 PM
Pride. Alas, there is no need for the parents to fear, the "next best thing" is not here at try outs.
- May 13, 2015 at 8:47 PM
The "next best thing" never shows up, it's a phantom created every year to scare people. But, I am sure the coach has alienated enough people that a few will leave.
- May 13, 2015 at 9:11 PM
How many players showed up?
- May 13, 2015 at 9:19 PM
I spoke to the FC Stars coach and he is hoping some quality players show up. He was saying that it would be nice to have a little bit of competition.
- May 13, 2015 at 9:22 PM
I spoke with your spouse and they are hoping someday you will end your obsession with soccer blogs, spend more quality time with your family and generally enjoy the experiences life presents you with.
- May 14, 2015 at 6:26 AM
Looks like this latest round was started by parents of your team. People were complaining that your coach was giving preference to kids who were not part of the team/club rather than the going with home grown talent. If we have learned anything from TRE and Copa is that there is value in trying to keep and hold a team together rather than striving for "the next best thing." Alot of people have commented that your club really doesn't have development as their primary interest. These comments support that.
- May 14, 2015 at 9:30 AM
Agree with 9:30. With all the bad mouthing about the coach, wonder why they are all petrified that their kid will be cut. Aren't there greener pastures out there for you?
- May 14, 2015 at 10:54 AM
930 PDA Breakers should be included in the home grown talent comment given the history of the team.
- May 14, 2015 at 12:12 PM
Agreed, I mentioned TRE and COPA because they were in the Cup Final, but you are right but I think the point is right. Chemistry, good teammates, understanding a system all come into play in soccer. Talent alone is not enough.
I don't know at the beginning of this year's or last years cup that you would have said that Freehold or TRE were the most talented teams, but they came out of the tourney as the best teams.
There is no holy grail of kids that that can build a team. Teams are developed over time and I bet if you look at any team that has won major challenging tournaments the constant will be a core group of 14+ girls that have been together for a long time, that like each other on the field and off, respect their coach, and feel a sense of purpose as a team...and also a supportive set of parents win or lose. The teams that have talent but can't break through has a lot of turnover, players see the game as individual first, the parents back stab, there is no bond between player and coach, and the kids don't know or get along.
My thoughts. I personally think it is awesome to see local clubs still doing well. TRE probably had the pressure to join a big club, withstood the pressure and can hold their heads up high.
- May 14, 2015 at 12:51 PM
Congratulations to SDFC and JUS on winning their semifinals today.
Good luck to both teams tomorrow
- May 16, 2015 at 2:26 PM
FC Europa vs FC penn strikers
EPYSA State cup final
FCE beat yms in semis should be a good game
- May 17, 2015 at 8:53 AM
Strikers 3-0 over Europa not much of a game actually.
- May 17, 2015 at 3:23 PM
SDFC 2-1 over Jersey United to take NJYS State Cup, it was a great game played by both teams. SDFC after being down 2-0 on PK's over came and won 3-2 against NJ Stallions Stampede enabling them to advance to finals. JU was able to get a 1-0 win over TRE on Saturday to advance to finals.
- May 18, 2015 at 10:18 AM
It's amazing, there doesn't seem to be a dominant one or two teams in this tournament. I think seeing the diversity of teams that made it through the two cups bodes well for the next few years. After last week, you would have thought TRE was the team to beat.
- May 18, 2015 at 1:25 PM
Can anyone tell us what team is leading the EPL/ NPL currently. Looks like some games were played, some maybe and others not at all on website. Does this league actually exist? Hard to tell from EDP site if games are NPL, EDP, or CJYSL games. Are games played and sent to 2 leagues for scores? Seems awfully shady to me,.
- May 18, 2015 at 1:55 PM
The EDP schedule has the updated scores for the EDL teams which consist of Alleycats, Stallions, Copa, Smithton, Jersey United and Valkries.
Looks like some teams have played more than others but looks like statistically Smithtown, JU and Valkyries are out and winner will be either Copa, Stallions and Alleycats depending upon how their remaining games play out.
Stallions 3-0-1
Copa 3-0-0
Alleycats 2-1-0
Smithtown 2-1-1
Jersey Utd. 1-0-4
Valkries 0-0-5
- May 18, 2015 at 8:09 PM
There's 10 teams in EDP 1st Division North, so in theory each team plays 9 games.
- May 19, 2015 at 1:55 PM
EDP/ NPL arrangement is a joke. Teams play EDP schedule with several games being used as NPL games and all being used for EDP. One set of games with fictitious leagues intertwined. EDP gets money for various league fees, teams get Got Soccer points for multiple BS leagues and all is good. Looks like games get used for both US Club and US Youth. Basically seems to be a buy your team points deal. No wonder clubs like MSC and NYSC left for NY NPL.
- May 19, 2015 at 10:05 PM
Not sure what you see as the great difference between the EDP/EDL and the NY NPL? The NY NPL also hands out Got Soccer points for coming in any place. Winners of both EDL and NY NPL head to the same Nationals, don't they?
- May 20, 2015 at 8:20 AM
I think poster was more at issue with EPL/NPL/ EDP games being used for various leagues. Points being awarded from multiple leagues yet only playing one schedule. Using same game for multiple league scores is BS. No team should get points from 2 leagues for playing a single game. Allows EDP teams to garner more points for higher rankings. Does make a difference when entering some showcases and tournaments. Kind of like being paid twice from 2 separate companies for doing a single job. Great deal if you can get it but unfair to teams in legit leagues.
- May 20, 2015 at 9:47 AM
Saw on NY blog that parent from ISA went nuts during recent game and jumped fence to go after center ref. during middle of game. Sad sutuation if this is true. Anyone hear about this?
- May 20, 2015 at 9:53 AM
I just checked last year's points for a couple of EDP/EDL teams (Alleycats and Copa), and a couple of NY NPL teams (ISA and Rowdies). I don't see that the EDP/EDL teams were given double points. Yes, games go into the standings on both leagues but they only received Got Soccer points for their EDP placement, not from EDL. From my understanding the EDL games and placement are just used to determine who gets to compete at an NPL National Competition. On the other hand, NY NPL gives points for their league. So to me it still seems like there's little difference in the two leagues in terms of "collecting points".
- May 20, 2015 at 9:59 AM
In fact, last spring's flight value (potential points) of the NY NPL was 9500, while the EDP was 9000.
- May 20, 2015 at 10:03 AM
9:53 Is Max in NY now?
- May 20, 2015 at 10:31 AM
Go PDA gunners !!!!!!
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- May 20, 2015 at 9:25 PM
They can have him because to be honest a lot of people here are growing tired of his rude behavior and constant whining like a kid
- May 20, 2015 at 10:14 PM
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- May 20, 2015 at 11:20 PM
Have other teams out there had a negative experience with the Scotch Plains Fire? Some of the dirtiest play I've ever seen comes from them. Certain very identifiable players have been getting away with their brand of cheap shot trash soccer for years. It has to stop. Nobody needs a serious injury due to bullish, undisciplined, behavior.
- May 21, 2015 at 8:11 AM
Do remember having difficulty as a manager getting games scheduled against them. Coach always unavailable. Also saw coach hide spare ball as time was running out, actually watched him move ball as game ball went down hill. Low level program with little future, so not worth worrying about them. Behavior comes from coach.
- May 21, 2015 at 8:43 AM
Total wins for PDA this weekend for all 5 teams, Florida included, anyone wanna venture a guess?
- May 21, 2015 at 9:09 PM
Well Pride is dominating the NPL league.
- May 21, 2015 at 9:33 PM
Who cares?
- May 21, 2015 at 9:34 PM
933 are you serious? My 10 yr olds rec team could dominate the NPL league.
- May 21, 2015 at 10:17 PM
@934 no idea why you would care unless you run the club.
- May 22, 2015 at 7:58 AM
9:33 Always a Bridesmaid never a Bride!
- May 22, 2015 at 10:00 AM
Looks like NJ Stallions just dumped EPL/ NPL for NY NPL league. Smart move, much better league.
- May 22, 2015 at 12:16 PM
The handpicked competition didn't work out to well today.
- May 23, 2015 at 6:27 PM
Other than the Gunners it was a another day of head shaking for the hosts 0-4 if we include the Florida team.
Managed not a single goal while surrendering 12 in 4 games. Time to hire both an offensive specialist and defensive specialist. Maybe a keeper specialist. Do we still feel the exposure is worth it? Those of us invited for today's affair appreciate the hospitality and the exposure. Just costs us alot less. Lots of new guest players on some of sidelines today also, free exposure for them also. Just remember you paid for that also. Thanks again
- May 23, 2015 at 6:59 PM
Okay I have tried to remain quiet for some time because the comments were not about kids and more about club stuff, which I get but now @May 23, 2015 6:59pm you have stepped over the line and now its time for me to get directly at you. Let me from the start bring some credibility to this. I am Eric Harris………period so you know where I am about to go with this. You have some never to get on here and actually take a cheap shot at some 14, 15, 16 year old little girl. You got some serious issues my man and now that you took it there and before you say you never said anything let me quote you so that we don't have to jump back and forth. "Time to hire both an offensive specialist and defensive specialist. Maybe a keeper specialist" now I would say why would some need to do all that and who are you talking about "INDIRECTLY". Well hey time for me to start talking cause now you brought me back in the game and for any of you lame cats let me air it out real quick. First of all I support PDA and we ARE ONE so the fact that you don't count the Gunners in your tirade is funny as heck and more shows how fragile and how you hate EXIT 12. Well guess what you should and the reason being is that YOUR NOT THERE and that's YOUR OWN DOING. See the grass aint greener on the other side partner. Hands down you name any club or "ACADEMY" and you know I know people from COPA, RUSH, Matchfit, etc. and GUESS WHAT I pay less than you do and guess what I get WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more for my money than you. Aside from PDA name another so called "ACADEMY" in NJ that has their own complex. Don't tell me what you are going to build and where you are going to build it because if so I got a bridge to sell you. You dag on right we are getting exposure and guess what you got some today also so YOUR WELCOME but I ask how come your sloppy club hasn't provided you what we gave you today……………ONCE again YOUR WELCOME. EVERY TEAM that was there today and this weekend is winning and won the race. Your kids are getting A CHANCE to been seen but tons of COLLEGE COACHES and NATIONAL TEAM COACHES so again YOU ARE WELCOME. Hey tomorrow come up and say hello and let me walk you around what you're missing and what you don't have at your CLUB……….lol lol lol if you want to call it that. Trust me all the complaining you do it must not be all that and surely you are obvious VERY UNHAPPY and JEALOUS of what WE have over at PDA. Anyway you know where I will be tomorrow feel free to come up and say hello or say what you want to say but you know that I am the exact guy to get in a debate or whatever you want to do but I assume come tomorrow night that I will be on here call you out again for not approaching me…………..You really got nerve calling out kids like that. Eric Harris
- May 23, 2015 at 10:49 PM
Nice fields also
- May 23, 2015 at 11:10 PM
Eric, you are absolutely right that we shouldn't be calling out the play of 15 year olds, but PDA is an ECNL club plain and simple. At least at this age group, the rest of the PDA teams have done little to enhance the clubs reputation. All you have to do is look at the tryout numbers over the last few years and you'd know that no one is banging down the doors to join the other PDA teams. Success isn't defined by wins and losses but it is by improving year after year. I have seen your South club cast off kid after kid and a lot of good ones that have found success elsewhere. The South casts those kids off like they are rubbish and with little respect and anyone current or past from that team knows exactly what I'm talking about. They do it expecting that that so many kids are so anxious for the exposure and would come running because of the "exposure" , it ain't happened. Instead of developing a team they have tried to go the "free agent" route. I suspect you truly don't know the PDA of the South and that team has harmed your the reputation of your whole club. Cuts and kids leaving are part of the game. The kids on that team are shown little respect while they are playing and while they are leaving. The Pride team is the poster child for why clubs should develop first and build when current kids aren't cut out for this level. I was at the PDA tournament today and I watched quite a few games and saw a lot of very good soccer and I can tell you the 6-0 Pride loss is the culmination of 5 years or so of trying to get quick fixes to get wins and losses rather than developing a core group of players that play together as a team.
One point of fact is that PDA does not have its own complex they don't own fields. A lot of clubs lease or rent fields based on the revenue they generate. No one doubts that PDA had become quite a revenue generating business that allows them to lease nice fields. The rest of PDA outside of Zaraphath uses town fields like the rest of us poor souls.
- May 23, 2015 at 11:44 PM
Bless you, 1144, finally a truly honest post about the South team. The parents have too much pull with the coach/DOC and it has ruined the team.
- May 24, 2015 at 12:35 AM
Voorhees team must be thinking,"ahhhh, Karma!"
- May 24, 2015 at 1:04 AM
Not karma, leadership. Teams take on the character of their coach
- May 24, 2015 at 9:04 AM
What exactly is PDA showcasing, how to lose games?
- May 24, 2015 at 2:34 PM
pda U15g
- May 24, 2015 at 3:44 PM
Exposed not exposure.
How ya like them apples!
- May 24, 2015 at 5:06 PM
I still cannot figure out the obsession with results? If you are @PDA I assume your kid wants to keep her college options open. What more do you want? PDA has probably attracted the bulk of the kids who want to be there already. Tryout numbers mean nothing given the fact that there is not an infinite supply of potential players. As a business, PDA need to come up with new ways of adding numbers, hence the other methods. Its a a business. Use it to your benefit or don't, but criticizing the machine is pointless.
- May 24, 2015 at 6:17 PM
Looks like NJ Stallions just dumped EPL/ NPL for NY NPL league. Smart move, much better league
Why would a team move from one NPL league to the other?
- May 24, 2015 at 7:04 PM
Good thing PDA tryouts are over or there would be some very upset girls next week.
- May 24, 2015 at 8:11 PM
6:17 Reread the May 23 11:44 post, that explains it. It's not about W-L it is about teams that are regressing. Te Pride team churns 5-6 kids every year, it is done with a lack of dignity and respect. The kids that are there now have no sense of team, there is distrust, and they fear their coach When they churn the 5-6 kids a year they have not been able to replace those kids with better players and the kids that have left have found a lot of success elsewhere. The fact is that the teams that develop their team and focus on developing that team are doing much better than teams that are chasing the next best thing that doesn't exist. So every time a kid leaves or gets hurt the team gets more and more because they have built no depth in their team. Yes 9-0 is indicative of a broader problem of not having an emphasis on development. ECNL clubs don't have that problem, but at the next level down kids have lots of choices. Look at the NJ and PA teams that are doing well, it's teams that have mostly stayed together.
- May 24, 2015 at 10:52 PM
Pride will dominate tomorrow and shut you all up!
- May 24, 2015 at 11:04 PM
Which Pride? The one with guest players or the rostered 2014/15 team? Do tell?
- May 25, 2015 at 12:24 AM
Something must be working because we never seem to get any Pride parents desparaging the DOC/coach .my educated guess is that he did not cut anyone for the next season.
- May 25, 2015 at 1:05 AM
They must be brainwashed by the cult leader, I mean DoC, although most cult leaders are eloquent and charismatic...
- May 25, 2015 at 11:29 AM
Pda u15 results 5 teams combined
3 wins
1 tie
11 loses
34 goals Against
17 goals for
- May 25, 2015 at 1:53 PM
One tournament our one game doesn't judge a club or team, but the progression of a club and teams matters. It is safe to say that both the Athletica and the Pride have not grown since they had formed and they have really fallen back quite a bit. Time will tell on the Breakers There are a good 10 clubs in NJ that are doing well and improving and have built it on keeping a team together. The Pride team is prime example of how not to develop while Copa nd TRE are the opposite. There are maybe 5-6 kids from the PDA team when they first formed. Some left, some were cut and most are playing pivotal roles for their teams on other clubs, meanwhile the replacements of those kids haven't elevated the team.
Maybe the coach is soccer's Chip Kelly, just plug players into a system and we will do well. Nope, you have to develop a team.
- May 25, 2015 at 2:29 PM
20% win rate is not what I would expect from the number 1 Academy in the state.
- May 25, 2015 at 3:33 PM
Is Thistle from the white bracket part of PDA?
- May 25, 2015 at 4:57 PM
"20% win rate is not what I would expect from the number 1 Academy in the state"
What don't you understand about an Academy? - players doing well get promoted to the Gunners. There's an A, B, C ,D team. Everyone gets to play at the appropriate level.
The only difference between the US and say, EU, is that you all get to play for free across the pond.
You don't like it? Stick to your local town team.
- May 25, 2015 at 8:59 PM
So these players are being promised they will go to the A team? How many spots do you have open in the A team for the B, C, and D players.
This is a shame and a waste of time for the B, C, D players. These players are good enough to play at the highest level but are not being developed and trained!!
I do get it!! These players do not have two or three years to be given a shot at the A team. If you are not in a high level team by now!! it is too late
- May 25, 2015 at 9:43 PM
@943 .. so you think players that can play at the highest level are being ignored? Whose fault is that? If you do not feel you are getting what you want, play elsewhere. There are so many clubs that you can fine one that will suit- IF you can play at the highest level.
- May 26, 2015 at 8:37 AM
So we are in agreement!! Obviously this top academy DOES NOT DEVELOP or ignores the B, C, D players based on the results this past weekend so I TOTALLY concur. These players in the B, C, D teams whom BTW many talents are wasting their time waiting to get a shot at the A team. These players are not being trained properly and all the resources go the ECNL team. They should not go but RUN to other A teams in NJ OR pa that put a lot work into their teams like Toms River Everton, NJ Stallions, SJEB, Freehold, etc.
- May 26, 2015 at 9:47 AM
Just how do you get promoted if "A" team kids aren't going anywhere? 26-30 man roster I guess. That's how those "A" team players did play in final Atletica game Monday morning.
- May 26, 2015 at 9:48 AM
WOW.........lol lol I finally put this all together lol well somewhat. I now know who is at PDA's neck like they are. My folks down at Toms River.......yeah awww man cmon let it go. You reason for not being at PDA had nothing to do with PDA but you and I both know who but you fail to say it.......lol lol it was puzzling me until I read the last couple of post and you mentioned Toms River Everton which you and I have had this debate or conversation before in person.....lol lol. Let me ask this does SJEB, Freehold, Toms River, NJ Stallions have A and B teams............mind you be cautioned before you answer because I already know the answer. This is at May 26, 2015 or should I say your real name or......you tell me lol lol
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- May 26, 2015 at 9:59 AM
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- May 26, 2015 at 10:32 AM
Eric, not from TRE or any club mentioned but i follow your comments with interest. Can't say I agree with you on everything but if you notice no one is commenting on the player quality but rather the treatment and training these players might get elsewhere. I think you might be little selfish by not suggesting some the non ecnl PDA players would not be better off elsewhere. You look at PDA thru rose colored shades since your daughter is with the ECNL team. You must agree that there are issues when the 4 other teams combine for a single win and a tie. The exposure for the non ECNL teams was outstanding this weekend but maybe just maybe your non ecnl players at PDA might be better off elsewhere. Will you not concede this fact? Please skip the PDA rhetoric and be honest for once, i will have more respect for you if you can be straight forward.
- May 26, 2015 at 10:32 AM
It would be great from the B team parents as to whether the promise has even come close to the reality.
Can the someone from the B teams answer whether things have went as planned.
Has the constant turnover been good, has the coach replaced the kids that have been cut or left been replaced by kids that have improved the team.
What are your feelings about playing in sub-par leagues only to have a reality hit when you go to tournaments?
Has your coach done anything to demonstrate respect for you as parent paying $2500/year or your kid who works her butt off.
I suspect with the exception of a few that get special treatment most would not do it again.
- May 26, 2015 at 11:34 AM
@10:32am the person that I am talking about KNOWS…exactly who I am talking about. Now do I go ahead and put their name on here. No way I would never do that to him because me "ASSUMING" that its them I could be wrong but my gut tells me I am right because I know for a fact that they write on here which we talk about sometimes when I do see them. It's no big deal but now I know or at least I have a really good feeling that some of it is him lol lol or her lol which makes my next conversation I have with him even better and its keeps our relationship live and kicking lol lol. Listen most of you take offense when I defend PDA and I get that and I understand that. Hey it's a difference of opinion for some of us which is okay. Trust me I would never condone or applaud anyone that will use children as pawns or as you say commodity. That being said FROM MY EXPERIENCE PDA does not do that. I say that because I have never experienced that or felt that way. This is a free country and I say FREE with tongue in cheek, but its FREE and I choose to be at PDA, they are not forcing my hand or anyone else's for that matter. We are all there by choice and if we do not like it there is the door and you are more than welcome to exit as you please and certainly if you feel the need that you want to come back and you haven't BURNED any bridges you are welcome with open arms. My comments aren't based off the Gunners because my child is on that team but I make my statement as my whole PDA experience. I don't look at my experience or decision based off ONE TEAM. I make it off the WHOLE PICTURE and what I am looking to get out of it for my kids. When you say that kids have regressed in the "ACADEMY" system I am confused. I would say that kids have regressed in the "ELITE" system. On every corner there is an "ELITE" team or ACADEMY. Think about it on paper how many ACADEMY's are there in the state of NJ. Now go type in ELITE and you will see that there are just as many. Sooooooooo what does that mean………I would say I have no clue because I don't know what the difference is but I can say that where my kids play is like no other that I have seen or experience from afar and by what others tell me that are on that team say. Eric Harris
- May 26, 2015 at 11:43 AM
@10:32 am I am glad that you follow my post lol lol it could be a better convo in person actually but I assume that won't take place do what I can never understand with a lot of you. I don't think what I say is selfish at all. I say what I say based on my own experience and I defend PDA because this is where both of my children call home and if someone has to say something about where my children has happiness and finds peace, don't worry I will defend that 100% of the time. You know what I never understood or understand when people say "Rose Color Glasses" what does that mean really. I don't wear shades at all and certainly not rose color. I can only assume that what you say is in the same tense or analogy of "DRINKING THE KOOLAID" which just so happens that I love KOOLAID……born and raised on it but my kids have no clue………I think I have deprived them of that….lol. Look around and you will see that I have no problem posting my name, phone number, address, exit etc. I have no problem doing that because I'm confident in what I believe in and sure it may not be popular with most but I am okay with that because I am human and I am entitled to an "OPINION" based on my own personal thoughts. Now are they same yours…….probably not but I am okay with that because what I have learn long ago is that these years will FLY BY so fast. Remember when our girls were U8………wasn't that last year lol lol I mean its going fast and instead of being UNHAPPY about another parents decision to be or not be I really don't have time. Do I listen to what you say sure I do and does it bother me that maybe your child was unfairly evaluated…………..well this is sports and trust me it's not fair and never will be. You are comparing APPLES to Oranges and you are the one looking through maybe those ROSE color glasses because you make the statement about issues of the 4 teams within PDA's U15 age group and try to compare it to the WHOLE NON ECNL bracket. Here let's do this what is the name of your club and team and let's compare APPLES to APPLES. okay according to you between our four non-ecnl teams we won only 1 game, tied one game and lost the rest. Okay I got that. Now please tell me the name of your club and let's compare. I will wait…..no lets see who is looking through Rose Color Glasses because if you fail to give that information then not only are you looking through Rose Color Glasses but you are ashamed of where you are now and that's SAD because as an adult we try to teach our children to be proud of what they have and what they accomplish. Now lets see
Eric Harris
- May 26, 2015 at 11:48 AM
It speaks volumes that the Atletica parents or Pride parents never come to the defense of the club, some have come on here and openly disparaged it. Maybe you should let them speak for themselves
I did not say the kids have regressed, I said that the team had regressed. I don't think any objective observer could say otherwise. When you coach with threats and you churn kids with out having adequate replacements, that is what you get.
Out of interest Eric, how many Pride practices has your daughter attended, how many hour long post game speeches has your daughter heard, how many discussions on the great things that are happening at the club and for players, has your daughter faced the year after year threat of tryouts and the coach saying you guys are not good enough. I suspect you really don't know what you are speaking about. The Pride coach also is the DOC of the South Club and it is that leadership that has caused a lot of PDA regression and I believe damaged the reputation of the club.
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May 27, 2013, 12:02:37 AM »
Hi everyone! I'm brand new to this forum. Recently, I returned from Korea and moved back to my hometown LA
I've been hearing a lot about photographers giving workshops..some who aren't so great but some with some nice work. Has anyone here attended any that were helpful? Just wanted everyones input on their experiences with them.
While I was in Korea, I bought this amazing photography book called ICONS by Markus and Indrani. Coincidentally, I found out that Markus is giving a workshop here in LA (
). It's pretty pricey, but I think it sounds really extraordinary.
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workshops can be very helpful.... the one you linked to... seems expensive for a one day event... - in reading the blurb... it seem to perhaps be a 'look over the shoulder' event as opposed to a roll up your sleeves and get your hands dirty sort of training event - ask allot of questions - make sure you are comfortable with the answers before you signup...
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June 11, 2013, 10:30:58 PM »
That is a ridiculous amount of money for what is essentially and can be nothing more than a seminar due to the range of listed topics and brevity.
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June 14, 2013, 04:49:07 AM »
Ellis is right - this workshop seems highly overpriced for what it can offer.
Also, if you are a relative newbie to photography there is much better value for money out there if you want to go the route of workshops.
Perhaps, if you are already an accomplished photographer, and trying to 'get noticed' in the fashion photography industry this may be a way in but, personally, I would be sceptical.
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June 14, 2013, 11:16:09 AM »
How much can you learn in one day of listening?
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As someone who makes the main part of their living giving workshops (albeit for a lot more reasonable price) I can only say it depends. I stopped advertising the much more lucrative 'group' workshops in favour of individual workshops for the simple reason I enjoyed them more and the student gets much more out of it. They get a full day that centers around their needs vs. trying to meet a set of objectives which might or might not fit the individual.
I still do groups on requests but I make known my druthers and I'm okay from there. But it's very tiring not to mention a bit hectic trying to keep track of 4-5 students at a time and provide them meaningful instruction while doing so.
A quality workshop, imo, should ideally be centered around your skills and where you want to go. Often times there's more between here and there than a person realizes, but properly explained they can understand why. Like math, certain gaps in knowledge must be addressed before going forward. r If at all possible gear should be made available for a student to "experience", this by itself can save the student more than the cost of the workshop.
Most of all, be sure you can talk to the instructor. If their replies are too abbreviated and don't answer your questions consider this might extend to their teaching style. Ask a few questions when feeling out a workshop and see how the instructor answers them and see if this is compatible with your learning style. Even if you understand the answer say you don't and ask the to explain again, any decent instructor should be able to explain any concept 4-5 different ways and switch between them on the fly as your eyes register understanding (or not).
And do keep in mind.. you won't learn in a single day what took a pro ten years to learn. If you're lucky enough to get a good instructor you get on well with, and they'll center the class around your needs, keep your expectations reasonable. It's far better to spend 30 minutes on a single concept and fully understand it, than to spend the same time on 4-5 concepts and not be sure you understand.
Workshops above all else should be fun. If you're not a pro them you're an amateur and you're doing this for recreation/enjoyment/fun.. so it should be. It should also be safe which is a big consideration where I hold my workshops. Vehicles should be insured, medical insurance available if not provided, and a really really good instructor.. they'll have batteries for your camera charged and in their bag just in case.. ;o)
Good luck.
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Quote from: Steve Weldon on June 14, 2013, 06:12:48 PM
Often times there's more between here and there than a person realizes, but properly explained they can understand why. .....
.... Ask a few questions when feeling out a workshop and see how the instructor answers them and see if this is compatible with your learning style. Even if you understand the answer say you don't and ask the to explain again, any decent instructor should be able to explain any concept 4-5 different ways and switch between them on the fly as your eyes register understanding (or not).
Steve - great advise - had a similar - bit much more condensed answer for this same 'workshop' at dpreview.... ask questions!
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My limited experience in photography workshops was related to Photoshop. I signed up for a course thinking it would cut through a ton of learning and was really disappointed.
The instructor was obsessed - yes obsessed, with short cut keys. While I think short cut keys are great - my perspective at the time was WHO CARES - I can learn that later once I have learned some basic techniques which is what I thought I paid for.
As another posted, the classroom had at least 10 or more people and it took over 1 hour just to get people signed in, and their computers on line. I was really put off by that and combined with this obsessive instruction on short-cuts (vs functional workflow) I left at break (10:30 am).
That was 3 or 4 years ago.
On photography workshops, they are now a dime a dozen and I think you really have to know the qualifications of the instructor. I think there is no question I could learn new things, the problem I have is what another stated, what I WANT to know may not be what they teach. And its managing expectations. I agree a one on one course would add more value.
At present, I would pay to learn post processing techniques - things that provide saleable images. Example - using epoxy and using wax. (Cannot remember the name so forgive me)
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I enjoyed a 16 session weekly night course on Lightroom (first 8 weeks, beginners; second 8 weeks, refinements, plugins, problem solving, more workflow strategies, etc) given locally by an Adobe-certified LR instructor. The advantage of a longer night course is that there is time to practice the concepts taught in the last session, and ask questions if needed.
I would go to a similar weekly Photoshop night course. I might also consider a printing workshop.The basics.
The other type of "workshop" or photography tour I would like would be one providing access to wildlife, with a naturalist and an experienced photographer as guides. My bucket list includes the Galapagos Islands, and I would also like to take an Indian tiger and bird tour with a local photographer who used to be a conservation officer in the pertinent Indian parks. An Arizona hummingbird session is also on my list. I am less inclined to want to take the sort of landscape tour where everyone lines up to take identical photos at pre-scouted locations.
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August 14, 2013, 07:37:32 PM »
Keep an eye out for the Palm Springs Photo Festival in the spring of each year. The have workshops, seminars, etc. and sometimes have really fine presenters. I've taken a couple of seminar classes given by Mac Holbert and greatly benefitted. Pretty reasonable, and a nice locale.
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August 17, 2013, 04:30:30 PM »
I would be skeptical of workshops who advertise themselves as suitable for all levels, from beginner to advanced. Such workshops are so superficial and broad as to be worthless. The photo workshop has become a cash cow for pros and pro-wannabees. You have to ask yourself what you can actually really learn in 3 hours consisting of an introduction, a section on the meat and a closing.
It also depends on how you learn. Can you learn from a book or a video? If so, I would suggest you save your money. On the other hand, if you are seeking inspiration and can find a speaker who can communicate same, it will be worthwhile.
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The Lady Dutch will take on the Lady Crusaders, a 35-29 winner over Johnsonburg in the other opening-round game, in the tournament finals tonight at 6:30 p.m. at the Dutch Oven.
"This was a good win for us tonight," said Coach Bob Swanson of the Lady Dutch. "We started out a little slow, but came on strong after we decided to start playing. Ridgway gave us a battle in the first quarter, as they led for most of the quarter, until Kayla (Hoohuli) hit the three foul goals at the end of the period to give us the lead for good."
"We played good defense tonight as we kept pressure on Ridgway. When we slacked off, the Ridgway girls were able to score on us," he noted. "We keep preaching to the girls that defense wins the ball game and tonight proved that, as we were not at our best offensively, at least in the early going. Offensively we didn't shoot the ball as well as I would have liked, as we hit on only 14 percent of our three-point shots, although our regular field goal percentage was a little better.
"Ridgway played us tough tonight, which was good, as this showed the girls that they have to work hard no matter who your opponent is. This was a good game for us in the fact that we were able to play all of our players, giving them some valuable game experience, which will help out down the road."
Kayla Hoohuli led the Lady Dutch with a triple double on Wednesday, as she finished the game with 31 points, 13 rebounds and 10 steals. Rachel Walker checked in with 13 points and eight rebounds. Mandy Gerarge had six points, Kiana Hoohuli five points, Jenna Anderson and Adair Gennocro three each, and Shelby Zomcik and Sloan Foster two each.
Ridgway was led by Bryton Dybowski and Nicole Breier with 12 points each. Christine Schauer had six points, Katie Oknefski four points and Bri Stenta two points to round out the Lady Elker scoring.
Kayla Hoohuli put the Lady Dutch up 2-0 early in the game on a layup. Ridgway then scored the next seven points (five by Dybowski and two by Breier) to take a 7-2 lead. Kiana Hoohuli hit a field goal to cut it to 7-4, then Breier connected for the Lady Elkers to push it to 9-4. Three foul goals by Kayla Hoohuli made it 9-7 before Breier scored again to make it 11-7. Kayla Hoohuli hit a trey to cut it to 11-10, then as time ran out in the period she was fouled trying a three-pointer. She went to the line and sank all three shots to give the Lady Dutch the lead for good at 13-11.
Anderson opened the second period with a trey and Zomcik scored on a lay-up, making it 18-11. Two missed foul shots by Ridgway were followed by field goals by Walker and Kayla Hoohuli. to make it 22-11. Breier scored for the Lady Elkers, but Walker answered with three points of her own, 25-13. A field goal by Schauer and a foul goal by Dybowski made it 25-26. Walker hit two field goals and Kayla Hoohuli one before the half ended to make the halftime score 31-16 in favor of the Lady Dutch.
Kayla Hoohuli and Gerarge opened the third quarter with buckets, 35-16. Schauer scored for Ridgway, but Gerarge and Hoohuli answered for the Lady Dutch, 39-18. A foul goal by Breier was followed by a Kayla Hoohuli field goal and a field goal and foul goal by Kiana Hoohuli to make it 44-19. Stenta scored for the Lady Elkers, but once again St. Marys responded with a trey by Gennocro and a field goal by Walker, 49-21. Oknefski hit a field goal and Dybowski a trey to cut the lead to 49-26 as the period ended.
Kayla Hoohuli (2), Walker, and Gerarge scored field goals to open the final period as the Lady Dutch went up 57-26. Breier and Hoohuli exchanged field goals, then Breier added a foul goal, Schauer a field goal and Dybowski a trey to cut the lead to 59-34. Kayla Hoohuli and Foster scored for the Lady Dutch, 63-34, then Oknefski scored for Ridgway to make it 63-36. Hoohuli ended the scoring with a field goal to make the final score 65-36 in favor of St. Marys.
Game notes
Lady Dutch extended their record to 7-0 on the season and will be going after their fourth straight Elk County Tournament title tonight.
St. Marys turned the ball over 10 times last evening, compared to 32 for Ridgway.
St. Marys and Elk County Catholic will clash tonight at 6:30 p.m. for the tourney championship.
Ridgway Area 36
Bryton Dybowski 1-3-1-4-12, Katie Oknefski 2-0-0-0-4, Nicole Breier 5-0-2-6-12, Bri Stenta 1-0-0-0-2, Christine Schauer 3-0-0-0-6, EllenToncich 0-0-0-2-0, Jenni Thomas 0-0-0-0-0. Totals 12-3-3-12-36.
St. Marys Area 65
Shelby Zomcik 1-0-0-2-2, Kayla Hoohuli 11-1-6-7-31. Abbey Cribbs 0-0-0-0-0, Jenna Anderson 0-1-0-0-3, Sloan Foster 1-0-0-0-2, Adair Gennocro 0-1-0-0-3, DeAnna Yost 0-0-0-0-0, Rachel Walker 6-0-1-4-13, Kiana Hoohuli 2-0-1-3-5, Becky Krieg 0-0-0-2-0, Mandy Gerarge 3-0-0-0-6, Kali Quagliani 0-0-0-0-0, Jessie Donachy 0-0-0-0-0, Mia Keener 0-0-0-0-0. Totals 24-3-8-18-65.
Score by quarters
Ridgway 11 5 10 10 36
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