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- Casey Christofaris
- Munroe Falls, OH
- United States
Owner, CS3 Inc
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How do we prove an answer
that it How do we prove an answer
I just want to clarify that I do love science and the understanding of the universe that it has brought us. As well as the tech
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Feb 5 2013: Do you see how a mirror as well as a shadow can be equal but opposite?
Linda Taylor
Feb 6 2013: Well let me think. As far as I know, there are:
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Tangible (concrete) proof
Substantive proof
Rhetorical (formal) proof
Logical proof
Inductive proof
Deductive proof
Mathematical proof
Statistical proof (hypothesis testing)
Some of these are actually sub categories. So I would say you can prove an answer with
But it's not about the answer. In science it is about the question. The question sets up how you prove the answer.
Feb 6 2013: But we start with the answer
Feb 6 2013: I don't think so. We start with identifying the problem/issue and what we know and what we don't know. Then prioritize what we don't know into what we need to know first. Then we work on the correct question that will address what we don't know so we can get the answer we need.
But that's just how I do it. I have to answer to my profession and I have to follow all the steps.
The answer is easy once you have the question. The hard work happens before you have the question. The question sets up the proof.
Feb 6 2013: Really that makes no sense are you sure that's how you work? because it still sound like you start with the answer and or evidence first and then come up with the question. After that fits your evidence.
We start with A to be true as the answer
Then we ask the question B
If B is the question to the answer A
We prove it if C happens
Is the correct from your statement above?
Also there is a fallacy of concreteness. And the best part is that Quantum Physics say the tangibleness item has more holes in it than most logic does. And yet we still call it real? Why is that? I am not say this material world is not real but what I am say is when we know its fake why still hurt other? Because we know their pain is "real", which again pain is just neurotransmitters sending a signal to your brain.Feb 6 2013: I am sure. Let me apply it. Lets tackle homicides in Chicago.
We know there is a high homicide rate in Chicago. Guns are regulated more in Chicago than in the rest of the US, gun violence is higher among males, higher in poverty stricken neighborhoods, associated with gangs.
What we do not know is how do we stop or reduce gun violence in Chicago. What is it about poverty among young males that precipitates gun violence and can we address that. What is it about poverty that precipitates the formation or infiltration of gangs? Why do young men in gangs resort to gun violence. What social structures perpetuate gun violence. What greater social attitudes reinforce the social dynamic that leads young men to seek out gun violence. What is the geographical typography of the city that perpetuates gun violence but only in certain areas of the city?
What needs to happen is to find the root cause of gun violence as it manifests in Chicago. So I have identified the problem, identified what I know and do not know and now I need to prioritize.
Prioritization also includes what resources do I have to effect change. Just little ol' me has limited influence on gangs or young men or poverty. (I am completely making this up so there is no correlation to real world here except for the fact that Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country).
But let's say, in my preliminary research, I find that law enforcement does not address gun violence because of a prevailing attitude that these poor young men will just grow up to be criminals anyway so they are not motivated to put their lives on the line to confiscate illegal weapons. They are happy to let them kill each other. I find out this may be a contributing cause.
So I design a research study to look into this possibility and I come up with a research question. Here are some examples:
How do law enforcement officials justify the lack of enforcing illegal weapon legislation?
Feb 7 2013: Isn't your answer there is high homicide rate in Chicago?
And then you stem a bunch of questions on how to address your answer?
If question address answer then C will happen, which will lower the rate of homicide?Feb 6 2013: ... from previous
Do law enforcement officials inequitably apply illegal weapon legislation?
What is the effect of an educational intervention on the practice of illegal weapon legislation among law enforcement officials?
Each of those questions will drive a specific methodology that will arrive at a specific answer. The first will require narrative research, the second could be answered with a survey and the fourth would need some measurement with statistical application. Each of those methods also have a method of proof. So the answer will be proven by the method which is driven by the question.
There. Social science research in 3000 words or less.
I could also do this with hard science hypothesis testing. You make an observation (have a theory) and wonder if circumstances are the same, will it be repeated... Yada yada. But that is snooze ville sixth grade science.
Joe Blank
Feb 4 2013: Knowledge is obtained primarily from outside sources (print, instruction, conversation, multi-media, etc.) Most knowledge is accepted based on "trust" "belief" or "confidence" in the source. Knowledge is stuff you want to know, but it is typically not emotionally connected to your life and life choices.
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Wisdom represents those things that are emotionally relevant to your life and life choices. Wisdom is what you "know" to be true for you. Wisdom can only be achieved through experience. If I experience something directly, then I know it to be true.
In both cases the answer is "my answer". If you trust me than my answer may also become your answer. If we share an experience and have the same emotional connection, than we share that wisdom. The path to knowledge and the path to wisdom are very different paths.
What we know about quantum mechanics is based on the context of our physical reality. Yet, the "big bang" did not just produce our reality, did it? There are many universes with perhaps different physics that were produced by the same source. One cannot completely understand the whole by studying a part of the whole. Since it is difficult from our perspective to know the whole in order to subsequently understand our specific part, we are limited to what we can observe and experience, which will never tell the whole story of which everything is a part....unless somehow we learn to connect with and experience the whole... because experience is true wisdom.
Feb 5 2013: Whats your thoughts on intuition? Where does that lay in your knowledge wisdom paradigm?
Sam Austin
Feb 25 2013: I'd say we can't. We can't prove anything, and we can only disprove with a certain probulity that allows us to make theories about the world around us. Our world is one of theories, just some theories are more likely than others, and one day a new theory might come along that is even more likely that the one we hold true now.
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Feb 28 2013: So the only way I have been able to say "prove" an answers is that it has to be common sense to other. It doesn't matter if their common sense even makes sense it can be backwards from your personal logic or reasoning. But if you can make your "truth" common sense to them then they will know it as truth
vics ellison
Feb 23 2013: ask my mum she knows everythingFeb 5 2013: We don't!
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We assume all things to be true which we are unable to disprove.
The foundation of science... Karl Popper's falsifiability.
Feb 5 2013: No we don't.
Feb 5 2013: ye we do.
Feb 7 2013: We cannot disprove the existence of God. Must we therefore assume there is a God?
We do not assume all things to be true which we are unable to disprove. Instead we accept the possibilty that they may be true. We determine the likelyhood that something is true and following Occum's Razor, we tend to accept the theory that requires the fewest steps in order to be true.
For example, The universe coming into existence requires fewer steps than the universe coming into existence with the help of a God. We therefore accept that it is more likely that the universe does not require a God in order to exist. We cannot disprove God but we certainly do not assume one exists.Feb 7 2013: Occam is a nice 'tool' to dissolve (personal) cognitive dissonance just by chosing theories. Ofcourse you are free to chose whatever thing you (personally) want to believe.
But to defend my earlier post: The difference between "assume" and "accept the possibilty that they may be true" is really small. So I take it that your only problem is with the word "all", as you use Occam's razor to limit the "all" as you don't want to have conflicting ideas (god / no god) simultaneuously.
It kind of reminds me of schrodingers cat in a way (alive / dead) ;).
However you cannot simply say that because you chose to discard some theory because of it's unlikelyhood that you suddenly stop holding it to be true.
So in a way you still assume the discarded theories as being true... untill they are proven to be false.
Now as to religion... I am forced to assume that it's true. However I am also forced to assume that it is not true (as I cannot disprove the non-existence of God either). And that is where "faith" comes in for normal people. However I have no problem in not believing in God while assuming that he may exist.
Although the question rises if religion hasn't disproven itself already....
Feb 7 2013: I do not choose which theories to believe, i am forced to accept them, like them or not, based on the evidence.
The difference between assuming something is true and accepting that it may (or may not) be true is very big! I can't even imagine how you came to that conclusion.
But yes, one of the most basic laws of propsitional logic is that something cannot be both true and false. There either is a God or there is not.
Occums razor is a tested system and the data suggest that it works.
And no, that is what YOU are saying not me, that discarded theories should be assumed true because they haven't be disproven. If another theory seems to explain the facts more accurately, the first theory can generally be discarded and forgotten. However it is often unreasonable to say that it is definitely not true. But that is not the same as saying, "well it must be true because nobody has disproven it yet". If you make a claim, the burden of evidence is on you. If you can produce the evidence you may convince some people, if you cannot, your claim should be assumed false untill evidence does emerge.
I knew that it was likely that you were a believer (hence i picked God as an example) because it is generally believers who think that they can make a claim and that it is up to everybody else to disprove it. This is simply not the case, sorry.
And you say, "normal people" like the fact that i don't accept your God makes me abnormal. I don't accept that. And as i said, you are forced to assume God does not exist until you can provide evidence. However, you not forced to assume he does exist just because there is a lack of evidnece that he does not, because providing evidence that something supernatural does not exist is not possible. You are taking it out of the field of science. In that case the laws of logic no longer apply and you are forced to rely entirely on faith. i.e. belief without reason for believe.
You've slaughtered your own argument.Feb 11 2013: If something is both true and false could that be seen as balance
Quantum Physic says that this reality the material world is both true and not trueFeb 7 2013: I'm saying that you can't discard any theory while it's not proven to be false... You say that Occam's Razor is a valid tool in chosing theories... but it's not. It's the easy way out of science and into religion.
You say that the universe is easier understood through science than "Hey someone put it there". I disagree and I'm sure you will too if you know how few things physics can truelly explain... Therefor if Occam's razor would work you would be religious by now. To think about how quantumphysics work and how that can lead to a universe... is seriously complex. While going: "Someone made this" is much shorter and easier to understand.
Perhaps you should reread my post with the added knowledge that I don't believe in any God?
Also... religion is a 'theory' which is, in general, not testable and therefor is not science.
The existence of God is however (through most definitions of God, for instance you could 'test' if something can become almighty... if we can prove that one cannot then there is no god) testable and therefor could be included. So if you ask does God exist I would have to say that I don't know.
But I can't make any claim other than that I can assume it to be true. The fact that I don't believe any of it doesn't mean I'm right in doing so.
Feb 7 2013: And i'm saying you can discard a theory without proving it false, if you show that another theory explains the facts more accurately. You haven't disproven the first theory, just shown that it is less likely to be true.
Now, you are getting mixed up because of the expression "someone made this". Ofcourse it's easier to actually say out loud, but it explains nothing. It doesn't give you the mechanism by which he/she made it. If we were to explain it, we'd then have to explain how the most complex thing one can possibly imagine either came into existence or just exists. You are stuck with the same problem that we have with explaining the universe's existence, the only difference is you have added an extra step (and it just happens to be the biggest step we could possibly add). Occam's razon DOES NOT allow for that.
Forgive me for thinking you were a believer, but with the "this is where faith comes in for normal people" line, you have only yourself to blame.
Religion is not a theory, it is a hypothesis, and a failed one. A theory requires evidence. Whether it enters into the field of science depends on the individual claims made in the texts. Some do, some don't.
The existence of God is not testable by any scientific standard. Because no matter what data comes back, you could simply state that God is not subject the the laws of physics. So even if we "prove" that something can become almighty (how on earth would we go about doing that?) It wouldn't apply to God.
And the only assumption that you should be making is that you MAY be wrong in not believing. You should not assume that just because you can't be sure, there must be a God.
Imagine you have never heard of a God. The claim had never been made that there is one. You just knew the physics (to a degree) involved in the universe's birth. If i then came to you with the emply claim of an almighty being that made it all happen, would you be forced to assume i was right? Of course not. Not without evidence...Feb 7 2013: I will add that i will not be responding any further. I forgot how unrewarding internet debates were. Alot of effort for very little gain.
That's no reflection on you ofcourse, if it was in person i'd be happy to continue.Feb 11 2013: Science is theory, therefor it can not be "science"
Also... religion is a 'theory' which is, in general, not testable and therefor is not science.
Science fyi is PhilosophyFeb 7 2013: Religion doesn't call for any explaining... just for faith.
Which is why it's so simple to believe. Which is why occam's razor would be in favor of it. Because rather than discovering anything religion tells you "it was made by design". So you don't have to question the creation at all....
It is why when people stopped believing and started doing science that the world suddenly changed and came out of 'the dark ages'. Before then people just didn't question the world enough to make any progress.
I don't find "being a believer" any insult / disqualification though... I just write posts in ways such that people are often confused about my own beliefs :).
Also I just hold the 'theory' of a God being possible as true. But like I said religion is doing one heck of a job at showing that there can't be a God.
On the whole last alinea though I would point you towards a really nice movie from Ricky Gervais called "The invention of lying".... I think that there is quite a lot of truth in that comedy.Feb 5 2013: Statements "a is b" and "a is not b" do not balance each other, Casey.
Feb 5 2013: That would be correct. But a is b and not a is not b does. Thats formal logicMar 1 2013: oh, yes. got it. watchmen. great film (I didn't know the novel until after the movie). who will watch the watchers?Mar 1 2013: can not reply any further so new thread.
this question is good hence my response in question form. The answer is a lot harder. I have a sneaky feeling we are entering all sorts of new phases and our brains are playing catch-up. not with technology, you understand, but with the evolution of reason and the rational.
the classic view of the universe has been questioned by science for some time and there is a slow trickle-down effect in effect.
it seems to me that we now live in an age of "which version" as opposed to "the truth" - something that, I realise, is not really new but has become more obvious with the improving of communication technologies.
i think that as long as people ask this question of themselves, the answer will (eventually) be forth-coming. for them, not all of people-kind, which is the same thing, when you really boil it down.
Mar 1 2013: It also seems to me that today's age is quite interesting. Recently, I tried to answer a similar question, how do we "know" things and why do we "believe" things, what's the difference, etc. This little manual about logic http://logictutorial.com/ and the idea that "meaning is exclusion" made me realize that we make sense of things by drawing boundaries between "A" and "not A" - existence and non-existence, "self" and "not self".
Many people try to understand their "self", their identity, what makes us human, etc. Keeping in mind that "meaning is exclusion", by doing so, we draw more and more boundaries dividing what "I am" from what "I am not" which leaves less and less space for what "I am" and separates us from the world, all connected together. This contradicts the globalization process which seems to tell us that we are one with the world. The process goes on and on forever, just like everything else keeps spinning in the universe. Fascinating to watch.
Mar 3 2013: I remember a similar concept we went through while training to become a teacher - it was to do with the decline of the masculine for the simple reason that masculinity has often been defined (in the past) by what femininity is not.
Considering the changing roles of women in modern society (well, some of the more enlightened societies) and the changing definition of what femininity is, it leaves the man alone in a bit of a quandary as to how to "be a man".
Clunking a mastodon over the head and providing meat doesn't seem to cut it as much these days.
Letitia Falk
Feb 25 2013: I guess that depends on the question being answered...but since you said "prove"...
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A reductionist and scientific perspective on this:
Statistically speaking, you come up with a hypothesis (what you guess the answer is), and then you forget that, and try and prove the opposite: you try and prove the null hypothesis (that nothing happens, or that there is no effect). If you fail to prove the null hypothesis, only then do you conclude that the alternate hypothesis (what you guessed) was right Keeping in mind that some uncertainty is inevitable: 95% certainty is usually considered good enough.
The nice thing about science as a method for generating answers is that the field is so concerned with being unbiased, that statistical tests are designed so that you can prove yourself wrong if it all possible - before considering that you are right. Then add into this the need for replication of results and peer review and you have a pretty elegant system for answering questions (at least ones that are testable - and "provable").
Feb 26 2013: In short, we prove something to be true by doing everything we can to prove that it's false. What survives these attempts is considered to be true (with a confidence level proportional to our effort). "Survival of the fittest" - evolution applied to ideas.
Another paradox of life. To prove ourselves right, we need to do our best to prove ourselves wrong.
Feb 28 2013: But even is you have created that confidence level up on proof of an answer given time it will always be proven wrong?
Mar 1 2013: Not always. It *may* be proven wrong with probability equal to one minus confidence level.Mar 1 2013: all things must pass - a wise Beatle said that..
it's like you can't gauge happiness without sorrow, light without darkness, male without female. the duality behind the singularity. full circle back to where we started. life is very neat and tidy in that way.Feb 28 2013: Why would you start with answer to prove an answer? Seems self-fulfilling to me
see ted convo
Mar 1 2013: What Letitia said is correct. You don't start with an answer to prove an answer. Just the opposite, you start by trying to contradict the answer - thinking of any possible alternative explanations.
"Meaning is exclusion." http://logictutorial.com/
When you say something, the more your statement excludes, the more you say. E.g. saying that "the sky is blue" excludes all other colors from consideration. To say this is more meaningful than to say that "the sky is not green". To prove that "the sky is blue", essentially, you need to prove that it does not have any other color. The more colors you exclude, the more confident you are in your answer.
If you deal with known and limited amount of possibilities, you can get your confidence level up to 100%. But this is rarely the case. Confidence level is 1 - estimated probability of being wrong. This is uncertain world. Probability is all we've got.
So, it's not "self-fulfilling", but self-refuting.
Mar 1 2013: "So, it's not "self-fulfilling", but self-refuting."
So could that be seen as equals but opposite?Mar 1 2013: Re: "So could that be seen as equals but opposite?"
Yes. Coincidentia oppositorum. The concept is not new.
Mar 1 2013: Right so why does it matter how you come up with the answer if the answer is always the sameMar 1 2013: Which answer are you talking about?Mar 1 2013: Selecting the null-hypothesis is somewhat tricky. The scientist must make sure that the null-hypothesis and the hypothesis are mutually-exclusive and, in combination encompass all possibilities. Typically, if hypothesis is "A", the null-hypothesis should be "not A".
Paul Redling
Feb 22 2013: "I think therefore I am." Anything else can always be assumed an illusion.
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If your want to take that out of the equation, probably by showing that any change will disprove it, and showing that it holds its own without relying on assuming anything else to be true other than the fact that it is as it appears for all intents and purposes. Like, you can prove 1+2=3 by saying that 1+3≠3 as long as 1 is actually 1, 2 is actually 2, 3 is actually 3, + is actually +, = is actually =, and ≠ is actually ≠.
Feb 22 2013: Check out this conversation I think you will like it
http://www.ted.com/conversations/16464/after_learning_a_language_why.htmlFeb 24 2013: Illusions fool the brain in to believing that, what is not there, is there.
Feb 24 2013: Ummm... Yeah. That's assumed common knowledge... So... Thanks? I don't really see what u mean to accomplish by posting that. I mean, I could find that out on Dictionary.com...
Allan Hotti
Feb 24 2013: I was just questioning your inference that "I think therefore I am" is not an illusion as well.
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I agree with you that our perceptions (beliefs) are at risk of being illusions (erroneous beliefs) even though our brain believes them to be real. Skepticism is healthy.
Random thoughts: There is hope.Technology has increased our sensory capacity to "see" the world/universe, with microscopes, spectroscopes, telescopes, microwave discs and arrays, so that some illusions have been dispelled, but I'm sure many remain. Similarly Neuroscience is better understanding our brains and dispelling our erroneous beliefs in how it works.
Proof exists in mathematics, I'm not sure it exists elsewhere with same rigor. Scientific method & Mathematics perhaps remain our best tools to provide answers to questions with a "proof" that many only be "good enough" for now.
No offense meant.
AllanFeb 28 2013: Allan sorry proof is not in numbers because I can show proof that numbers are theory/assumptions/and more like philosophy. Now binary that's a different animal
Check out this ted convo
http://www.ted.com/conversations/13925/is_our_math_wrong_is_it_our_a.htmlFeb 24 2013: "I think therefore I am" is the only thing that remains when you strip all possibly illusions.
Because the fact that you "think" means that somewhere a 'you' must "exist"... notice that it doesn't tell you anything about how you think or where you are or in what form 'you' are. Just that somewhere there must be a 'you' because how else could you think?
Feb 24 2013: Thank you for saving me time.Feb 26 2013: The producer of the Illusion, this one who is experiencing the Illusion and and the Illusion itself ARE ONE.
Famous "I think therefore I am" tells you , that the virtual reality created in a code is enduring as long as the code maker endures.Feb 26 2013: Hi, Allan !
Is there ANY possibility to get out of the illusion ?
Allan Hotti
Feb 26 2013: Possibly not ... but if the "illusions" lead to to "fitness" enhancing behaviors, it may not matter????
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Illusions might well "accurately" represent a brains (mechanistic) response to sensory inputs and perceptions and become memories represented by neurons/neural circuits/proteins, but do they accurately represent the world out side the body? If these illusions/beliefs lead to fitness enhancing behaviors, perhaps that is all we need.
"Self" is an illusion ... cognitive neuroscientist Bruce Hood explore(s) the building blocks of what we experience as the "self" in The Self Illusion: How the Social Brain Creates Identity.
"I think therefore I believe I am" This has proved useful.Feb 26 2013: Re:" If these illusions/beliefs lead to fitness enhancing behaviors, perhaps that is all we need."
Agreed ! :)
Meaning is in the confrontation of contradiction - the coincidencia apositorum.
Two opposites should not contradict to each other but resonate.
Illusion- yes; but your illusion is real and matters.
Something like this :)
But i would distinguish 'self' from ' ego-self'. We can't avoid language ambiguity here, but how ego-self-illusion is possible without Self ? Self is something not existing but real, it embraces ego-self, not the other way round.
Maybe there are ways to be aware of Self, but it's impossible to language it for language is a code and is the property of 'ego-self'.
Thanks for the name (Bruce Hood ) i'll google it .
Thank you !Feb 26 2013: Why do you think that thinking is not an illusion?
It seems to me that "I think" needs to be stripped also. What remains is "I AM".
Feb 28 2013: Which correlates to oneMar 1 2013: Ow boy,
Then what are you if not a collection of your thoughts?
The logic is... that whatever you think is being thought by you, and because of that "you" must somehow "exist".
Everything can be an illusion... but your thoughts put them to "your reality".
We could be all controled by some computer which presents our "thoughts" with an image of a natural world where you have a body and can break bones etc.
But the one thing that makes sure that a "you" exists is that what you think is somehow related to a "you".
In yet another form... There MUST be someTHING (which is strongly related to 'someone' which is strongly related to 'you') to trick even if we are being tricked.
Haven't you guys ever read up on "I think therefor I am"?
It is a really fascanating idea...
Mar 1 2013: Yes, I've read what Descartes said and I've read what Hume wrote about what Descartes said.Mar 1 2013: You mean the Hume that sais: "You can't really say that one leads to the other as cause and effect are not clear"?
Aka you cannot say that "I think 'therefor' I am" you can only say "I think and I am" in which case "I am" would be already the conclusion that Descartes was after?
Descartes sais that "because you think. You can infer that you are" rather than "whatever thinks has to exist".
There is no cause and effect needed there... Hume just imagined there to be because he was too busy with taking mathematical logic too literal.
Mar 1 2013: Read "Criticisms" section in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogito_ergo_sum
Hume wasn't the only one to point out issues with this phrase. My point is that reason is quite useless when it comes to "self". All reasoning regarding "self" is circular. It's easier just to accept "I am" (our existence) as an unconditional self-evident truth, without reasoning, evidence, or proof.
edward long
Mar 2 2013: According to Christian doctrine only God can rightfully be called "I Am." It is one of his names. (Exodus 3:14 KJV).Feb 18 2013: As long as, when One ( start / original position ) becomes Two remains aware of the One - as one that made into / connection with One doesn't break / became the Two- there is no problem - Two , can do anything it likes , since being aware, it can easily converge into One- there is no problem. Problem may likely arise when forgetfulness factor gets introduced in One becoming Two equation. Humbly submitted.
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Feb 18 2013: So, we are creatures with amnesia : )
It makes sense
Thank you !
Ed Schulte
Feb 19 2013: Hi nn
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So Charan has caught you in his bright flow :-)
Yes! and as Daskalos puts it "We are Gods with Amnesia" ( temporary amnesia )
Yes Indeed!!!
Feb 19 2013: @CaseyChristofaris,@ED Schulte, @ Natashanikulina - Thanks a lot. Please help further explore this Amnesia as Natasha rightly termed it. Being new to TED, at following link posted first question. What factors cause this Amnesia ?
Much appreciated.Feb 19 2013: ( temporary amnesia ) ?
Looks like hope for recovery :)
Hi, Ed !Feb 18 2013: @Natashanikulina- These are not numbers but relative positions only with respect to each other - question with respect to answer or answer with respect to question may interchange positions from 1 to 2 or 2 to 1 . So it seems from Positional -relative perspective , non of these - 1, 2, 3 , 4 , anything or zero has a stability or no duration. On the other hand , these are dynamically interchangeable , equally powerful positional entities. When one repositions into another as 2 or 0 or 3 until complete convergence occurs into Oneness - repositioning may continue.;)
Feb 18 2013: Re : anything or zero has a stability or no duration.
I am slightly synesthetic, numbers for me are not only " relative positions with respect to each other ". They have colour, texture, transparency. So 'stability' and 'no duration' for me is quite real illusion :)
Thanks for your time !
Feb 19 2013: Understanding these as likely Illusion fades away when the connecting cord/ thread/path is known between these dynamically changing positional entities. Urright these could be colors, texture, sounds, shapes, any thing. Stability - longevity in duration / real knowledge is in knowing the path of connections/joining cords/threads.
Feb 19 2013: Charan ,
I can't say , i understand you, but i agree with you :)
Knowledge is a tricky thing.
How true image( colour, texture...sound ) is ? I don't know, but i think, it's more true, if not explained.
One more question, if i may.
May i ? :)
Maybe i have a kind of 'standing under' of how 1 is becoming many.
But Why ? And How can the perfect equilibrium be broken without a push from outside? If there is any 'outside', 1 is not 1, but less/more.
And how/why 1 comes into existence ?
For me it's a Mystery and it's OK, but if you have something to tell , please, tell :)
Thank you !
Actually, i have a vague image :
1 doesn't appear from 0, but goes through it when 1 becomes soooo many that it is condensed into 1 again and slips into 0 ...turning into 1...
So the Whole is always in the state of departure while always arriving.Feb 20 2013: That sounds like a torus?Feb 18 2013: By converging two into one ;)
Feb 18 2013: But then you have to realize that those first 2 existed as truth which created the one that exist as truth which will create an equal but opposite truth bring it back out as 2 then it will converge into one again ad infinitum. See it reciprocal and as far as truth goes that's a lot to keep track of and try to predict its equal but opposite reaction to self/whole/one. This can be seen as your shadow, which is your equal but opposite of self. Light needs something to reflect off of. You would need an all seeing eye to keep track of all those truth and false to realize that they created each other this can be seen as magnetism in nature or +/- . Also when any axiom can be your begin and end how would you know the first one because it would be arbitrarily labeled as one. So it shouldn't matter were home or source or origin is because we are all one. Every home is home every source is source. Just like the reason why people feel so alone when they are surrounded by billions of people is because we are alone, for we are one. If humans ever got off this rock or found an alien race it would just be another infinite chance for potential or a manifestation of energy or simply us, we, it, I. For God alone works miracles. Because he/we/us/them/I/it whatever arbitrary label you would like to use is alone , for we are one. For every end there is a beginning. Its a circle but we can end the circle we have been discovering circles for far way to long. Just because we can end the circle doesn't mean this reality is going to stop existing because it is the equal but opposite of what it is to be "god". We have to create heaven on earth, for we create our reality. Because we are co-creator
Ed Schulte
Feb 17 2013: @ Danielle Swain
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Re your " I would have been bounced out of the class and sent to the dean of students for being a wiseacre."
Well I would trust that the Dean is educated enough to understand Einstein's point that any ray of light ( a straight line ) send out will eventually return to its origin and therefore he would understand that there are no "straight lines"
(Kind of like Casey's attempt at arguing right/wrong, come to think of it :-0 )
Feb 17 2013: Question for you Ed,
If we sent out that light as we are observing space like we study the stars, and the light comes back to origin to the back of our own head, how would you know it was your head?
Feb 17 2013: Casey
since that principle is a 6th dimension principle .....were consciousness and light are one and the same ....how could it not know what it was??? ( ..or ...as you put it in your question... "comes back to origin"..)
Feb 18 2013: Never heard of 6th dimension principle, had to look it up. The funny thing is you want to talk about separate dimensions , and then I can only assume that you want to talk about how we are one. And that we need to find source or origin. These labels as arbitrary just like the term "one" is if every axiom can be both beginning and end.
Did you get a chance to join in on the ted conversation about zero or nothing or no thing.
It's binary code for nature. We got rid of the concept of zero or nothing or no thing as the starting axiom for nature (its more of a place holder (which can also be arbitrary)), because it can not be reached we can get infinity close but never reach it. Oddly enough if we ever did that reach zero it would make our physics equation for work be invalid. W=fd, if no distance traveled no work would be done. But all light can do is travel or move or do work. We also got rid of 2 since no 2 things can occupy the same space and the same time. And then ultimately we got rid of one, because it could be any axioms
see also Charan Singh conversation aboveFeb 17 2013: in my experience answers are usually proven through the use of basic logic. Specifically axioms (which are things we assume to be true), we bring forward a number of axioms and these provide a person the basis from which to prove something in accordance to the fore mentioned axioms. If this is true then everything is based on basic assumptions and so knowledge can only be proven in relation to other knowledge or in most cases assumptions.
In other words we can only prove something on assumptions that we can all agree are correct.
Feb 17 2013: What if I use your personal logic to prove my answer
(Joshua Kloppers personal logic)
Or Joshua Kloppers basic logic or common sense
Would you recognize it as truthFeb 17 2013: What is the question? Is the answer empirical or theoretical? A empirical answer is easier to prove than a theoretical answer, and theoretical answers can be impossible to prove.
In the area of theoretical questions one can use Platonic logic or Aristotelian logic and come up with proof for completely different and opposing answers. It can get very confusing.
This may help in the discussion:
In complicated geometric or mathematical questions "proof involves reasoned, logical explanations that use definitions, axioms, postulates, and previously proved theorems to arrive at a conclusion about a geometric statement. A good proof has an argument that is clearly developed with each step supported by:
Theorems: statements that can be proved to be true
Postulates: statements that are assumed to be true without proof (for example, an angle has only one bisector)
Axioms: self-evident truths or the basic facts that are accepted without any proof (for example, a straight line can be drawn between any two points)" from chegg.com a very interesting academic website.
My background is the Arts most of the answers I seek have little or no proof and are fluid in nature, changing shape with a blink of the eye
Feb 17 2013: What if I use your personal logic to prove my answer
(Danielle Swain's personal logic)
Would you recognize it as truth
Feb 17 2013: Hi ya Casey ... not sure what you mean by "my personal logic" I mentioned Geometrical and mathematical logic; Platonic logic and Aristotelian logic. There are many systems of logic. Any claims I may make to have a "personal logic" most likely was derived from some system of logic long thought of before my birth. Some may conclude I cannot recognize a truth because I disagree with them or there logic. Others may conclude I cannot recognize a truth because they do not like me or what I say. I will go back to my first question: What is the question?
Feb 17 2013: " I cannot recognize a truth because I disagree with them or there logic"
I would be using your logic or your common sense to prove truth to you.
So let me see if I can use logic and reason to show you how you need to use their logic and reason. To not prove them wrong but to show them that there is other truth. So you can pick any topic you want and any side of the said topic and I will debate the other side. See to get someone to believe what you say is truth you first have to understand their side as truth as well. Not that it wrong and it clearly might be(like anyone who would say oil is not toxic).
It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle. ~ Sun Tzu Art of War
Now it doesn't matter how the argument is going once I figure out how you came to your knowledge of truth I can figure out your thought "pattern" or common sense. Once I understand that I can use your common sense thats right your common sense to prove my information as truth. Not as I am right your wrong but just that there is other truth. Edited: I dont even need to believe that what I am trying to debate is truth or not, I just need to except that it can be
And as far as Sub, object question go. I like to say that it's not that I think inside the box or outside of the box. I realize that its all box's and I try to think in all of them.Feb 17 2013: I am being miss quoted... the quote should read " Some may conclude I cannot recognize a truth because I disagree with them or there logic." George Carlin once said "The difference between the almost right word and the right word is the difference between the lightning bug and the lightning." Same holds true for quotations.
But I am starting to get your gist.
Okay here is a question: Will my conciseness survive the death of my body?
I say no. Now prove me wrong.
Feb 17 2013: Why do you say no if I dont know your reasoning I simply can not use your logicFeb 18 2013: My reasoning: 'Inference to the best explanation' since there is no empirical evidence direct observation or experiments that can prove the survival of consciousness or a "soul" after the death of the body 'inference to the best explanation' is the logical way to come to a reasoned answer. What are some the explanations?
Consciousness is nonphysical it can transcend the body
There are eternal ides and forms that are not physical like a perfect circle or justice thy can only be grasp by consciousness. Only something eternal and nonphysical can grasp something eternal and nonphysical. Consciousness is nonphysical it can grasp ideas and forms that are eternal therefore consciousness is eternal.
After our death our parts still exist. Our consciousness is part of us so it to still exists.
Our consciousness recognizes eternal ideas and forms even without every experiencing them. Our consciousness acquired this experience before our life in an eternal realm.
Our physical brain manifests consciousness though it may take on properties of the nonphysical a blow to the head a lobotomy drugs or bran damage can severely affect consciousness.
I will quickly run through them to explain why I picked the last one as the best explanation. I do not think I have to be eternal to grasp an eternal idea. I do not have to be a cat to know a cat. It is true that before my birth and after my death my atoms exist, but as for my parts my heart, my liver will stop working unless they are transplanted and still they only get one chance at that. My mind can extrapolate on ideas and forms I have never experienced in this life. This leaves me with the last explanation
I brought up this question because it is very compelling. The question has been around for a long time in one form or another. Many great thinkers have pondered this question all their lives without coming to a solid or sound answer. I have no solid answer. Something of faith my be needed to gain peace with the question.
Feb 18 2013: Is light physical?
Also whats the question not one cannot figure out? How one can not be eternal can grasp something that is eternal?Feb 18 2013: Light is electromagnetic radiation the photon is the basic unit of any EMR. Photons are particles. Particles are physical. Therefore light is physical... I am off for sabbatical and will be away for a time. I enjoyed our discussion and I wish you well.
Kind regards
Feb 19 2013: Does your consciousnesses reside in a place external of your actual mind or do you think is the brain?
Have a great time on your sabbaticalFeb 13 2013: To prove means :"to show that something is correct and never to be falsified." In math, depending on what you are talking about, there are several kinds of proof, of which I have insufficient knowledge. In scientific point of view, we can "almost" never prove anything and that is actually the rule. What we can do, however, is to say: "we find that this model holds for more than 99.99 % of the cases." Now this is a good starting point and others can build on this, and make other observations and relate their own findings to this and expand the field of human knowledge. But the small amount of error that we might have had in our model could also expand when assumptions are build upon other assumptions and create big errors in the end. So everybody is supposed to be very careful about what they add to science, so others could also use the assumptions in their models. Also very elemental to scientific view is the open-minded-ness towards other models that could predict the same phenomenon. Scientists try to find what model works, knowing that every model is probably not 100% correct.
Feb 14 2013: Do you know what happens when you assume?
Feb 15 2013: Hi,
When we think, a series of activities have to build up in our brain, so that the combination of newly emerged patterns could lead to something new, which is our conclusion, or next step of thought. When we assume, we put too much certainty in one of the pieces of the series, which could be false. It means that our final results could always be wrong. They could be right, and by right, I mean useful, because our perception of the world is not complete. Now, if someone claims that their result is absolutely and undoubtedly true, and will never be disproved till eternity (well, the extinction of humans) then they are claiming that they have not only a perfect perception, but a perfect machinery to deduce, and a perfect framework of thought in that machinery. One thing that evolution has shown us is that almost everything could get better. So I ASSUME that it means that assuming will get better in time, and so will deduction.
Feb 15 2013: It's just I have been told my whole life that assuming makes an ass-u-me. And that my actions should be based on logic reasoning and knowledge. Then I grow up more and learn knowledge and I am told that anything I will ever be told will eventually be wrong and that this is called Science (which I love) but then science tells me that all knowledge is based on assumptions and that if we both don't assume the same assumptions the model wouldn't work. How does this make sense to you. Because it doesn't to me
as·sume [uh-soom] Show IPA verb, as·sumed, as·sum·ing.
verb (used with object)
to take for granted or without proof: to assume that everyone wants peace. Synonyms: suppose, presuppose; postulate, posit.
to take upon oneself; undertake: to assume an obligation.
to take over the duties or responsibilities of: to assume the office of treasurer.
to take on (a particular character, quality, mode of life, etc.); adopt: He assumed the style of an aggressive go-getter.
to take on; be invested or endowed with: The situation assumed a threatening character.Feb 15 2013: Does this make common sense to you?
The interesting things is, is if I had to answer my own question. This is how I would answer it:
What would Jesus do?
He would try to relate to the person, whether from his personal experiences or from someone else's experiences/knowledge (parable). And respond with knowledge/wisdom that he would want to hear if it was he who came to them for help.
That's what Jesus would do.
Do on to others as you would have them do on to you.
If you imply this concept to the most fundamental parts of life you would have intuition.
The hardest part about this is how do you relate to a person so it comes off as if the knowledge is from them selves. This is why is hard to do the "do unto others as you would have then do unto you" The answer has to be common sense. Not to the person (in this case Jesus) but to the other. It has to be their common sense not his.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, who said it, no matter if I said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." ~ Siddhartha Gautama, founder of Buddhism
But the best thing is, is that I had to start this conversation to know that. That it has to be common sense to other, to be seen as truth from their perspectiveFeb 7 2013: You prove something by showing its contradiction is not possible. Watch some Sherlock Holmes.
"Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."


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Use a spotter. Take turns fulfilling that role. Have them run or walk up the fairway. They can unbury discs and set them up on edge for easy location. Then everyone else advances while the spotter goes back to throw and they spot for him. Don't be lazy or you WILL lose at least one disc out of your group if the ground is already trampled.
Obviously pay attention to everyone's throws more closely.
No white discs. Neon yellow isn't really good either I've learned. Dark discs are easier to find in winter. I actually break the no white rule with a wizard that I throw off the tee. I never have any issues finding the shorter throws.
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I played an Ice Bowl last Saturday where the snow was roughly 8-12 inches deep. I put 2 feet of lightweight red ribbon on each disc with clear packing tape - applied when the disc was warm and dry. I checked with the TD before the round to get permission to use the ribbon. I had only one disc where the ribbon pulled off - and that was in my bag. It was a very technical course played entirely within the trees - no long, open shots - and I noticed no real effect on the flight of the disc (The ribbon hung down from the precise center of the disc, the edge of the tape right in the center of the small plastic dot you can find on almost all discs). Other people spent huge amounts of time searching for discs - groups backed up on the tee three and four deep. I never had trouble finding my discs and my playing partners swore they were getting ribbon the next time they played in snow.
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Scott moved to the area this year after making a name for himself at Brookline High School, an 1,800 student public school just outside Boston. Despite sitting out three games with a fractured ankle, he finished his sophomore season with more than 1,200 yards rushing and 13 touchdowns, in addition to more than 400 yards passing and four more scores.
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"For him to sit there and stay after to learn the plays and ask teammates to show him how things are done and have that trust, I think a lot of our guys have really keyed into that," coach Kevin Simonds said. "Coming in not only to learn it but also to absorb it so quickly has been impressive."
During last year's 4-7 season at Brookline, Scott grew accustomed to standing out. This year, though, he joins a pool of talent harboring the potential for a playoff run. Few expect the Rebels to go stride for stride with district power Stone Bridge, but they might have enough depth at skill positions to sneak by teams such as Madison and Langley. Senior quarterback Austin Black complements Scott's playmaking ability with a strong arm, and senior tight end/defensive end John Koch has the ability to make an impact on both sides of the ball.
Don't expect Scott's contributions to come solely out of the backfield this season; his 4.5 speed in the 40-yard dash and raw athleticism make him a threat at just about any position. At Brookline, Scott played running back, quarterback, wide receiver, cornerback and safety. Simonds plans on using Scott mostly as a running back, but also plans on sending him out wide as a receiver and occasionally testing his abilities in the defensive backfield.
"When he gets in the open field he's not going to get caught," Simonds said. "He's going to be a huge weapon for us. There's going to be no hiding him once film gets traded and people start seeing him. He's definitely going to be a threat, and it's our job to make sure we're using him in the best way possible to make the team successful."
Athleticism might have been ingrained in Scott at birth, but it was cultivated from an early age by a father who wanted to see his kids play football just like he did. Scott's oldest brother, Irvin, is a starting junior cornerback at Holy Cross, and his other brother trained with him every day this past summer.
"Truly one of the reasons why I think me and my brothers are so athletic is because as soon as we could walk, my father was in the backyard with us, throwing footballs, tackling us," Scott said. "So from then on we've all loved the game."
While Scott's ability to break down defenders in the open field has quickly garnered attention, he might have won the respect of his teammates more for his workman's mentality. Whether in the weight room or on the field, Scott typically is the first one to arrive and the last to leave, and he is the first to jump up whenever coaches need a volunteer for the scout team. That has pleased Simonds more than anything, because the prospect of transfers always cause coaches to worry about how such players will mesh with new teammates.
Scott knows he can offer the kind of physical ability few others can, but he relies more on the strength of his character than on the drive in his legs.
"I'll bring a positive attitude," Scott said. "I'm always trying to keep guys up, trying to keep guys moving forward."


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Interpretive Handbook
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Phencyclidine Confirmation, Meconium
Clinical Information Discusses physiology, pathophysiology, and general clinical aspects, as they relate to a laboratory test
Phencyclidine (PCP) was originally developed as an anesthetic in the 1950s but later was abandoned because of a high frequency of postoperative delirium with hallucinations. It was classed as a dissociative anesthetic because, in the anesthetized state, the patient remains conscious with staring gaze, flat facies, and rigid muscles.(1) PCP binds with high affinity to sites located in the cortex and limbic structures, resulting in blocking of N-methyl-D-aspartate (NMDA)-type glutamate receptors.(1) PCP became a drug of abuse in the 1970s because of its hallucinogenic effects.(1,2)
PCP is approximately 65% protein bound and has a volume of distribution (Vd) of 5.3 to 7.5 L/kg. The drug is metabolized by the liver via oxidative hydroxylation and has a dose-dependent half-life ranging from 7 to 46 hours.(2)
Meconium is the first fecal material passed by the neonate. Meconium forms in the first trimester of pregnancy but is seldom excreted before the 34th week. It is composed of approximately 70% water, bile acids, cholesterol, squamous cells, protein and drug metabolites, and no bacteria are normally present. Prebirth excretion of meconium is a sign of fetal distress.
Because drugs and metabolites can accumulate in meconium, assessment of meconium for the presence of illicit drugs can be an indicator of maternal drug use during pregnancy. Illicit drug use during pregnancy can have a profound effect on fetal development.
The disposition of drug in meconium is not well understood. The proposed mechanism is that the fetus excretes drug into bile and amniotic fluid. Drug accumulates in meconium either by direct deposit from bile or through swallowing of amniotic fluid.(3) The first evidence of meconium in the fetal intestine appears at approximately the 10th to 12th week of gestation, and slowly moves into the colon by the 16th week of gestation.(4) Therefore, the presence of drugs in meconium has been proposed to be indicative of in utero drug exposure during the final 4 to 5 months of pregnancy, a longer historical measure than is possible by urinalysis.(3)
Useful For Suggests clinical disorders or settings where the test may be helpful
Detection of in utero drug exposure up to 5 months before birth
Interpretation Provides information to assist in interpretation of the test results
The presence of phencyclidine in meconium is indicative of in utero drug exposure up to 5 months before birth.
Cautions Discusses conditions that may cause diagnostic confusion, including improper specimen collection and handling, inappropriate test selection, and interfering substances
Because the results of this test may have legal ramifications, it is recommended that testing be performed using chain of custody. A kit including all the materials necessary to complete chain of custody is available to ensure the test results are appropriate for legal proceedings.
Reference Values Describes reference intervals and additional information for interpretation of test results. May include intervals based on age and sex when appropriate. Intervals are Mayo-derived, unless otherwise designated. If an interpretive report is provided, the reference value field will state this.
Positives are reported with a quantitative LC-MS/MS result.
Cutoff concentrations
PCP by LC-MS/MS: >10 ng/g
Clinical References Provides recommendations for further in-depth reading of a clinical nature
1. O'Brien CP: Drug addiction and drug abuse. In Goodman and Gilman's the Pharmacological Basis of Therapeutics. 11th edition. Edited by LL Brunton, JS Lazo, KL Parker. McGraw-Hill Book Company, Inc, 2006
2. Baselt RC: Phencyclidine. In Disposition of Toxic Drugs and Chemicals in Man. Eighth edition. Edited by RC Baselt. Foster City, CA, Biomedical Publications, 2008, pp 1735
3. Ostrea EM Jr, Brady MJ, Parks PM, et al: Drug screening of meconium in infants of drug-dependent mothers: an alternative to urine testing. J Pediatr 1989 Sep;115(3):474-477
4. Ahanya SN, Lakshmanan J, Morgan BL, Ross MG: Meconium passage in utero mechanisms, consequences, and management. Obstet Gynecol Surv 2005 Jan;60(1):45-56; quiz 73-74


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Successful rebellions require leaders. That's why the recent talk about some House conservatives conniving to wrest the speaker's gavel from John Boehner now appears headed nowhere—and why even Boehner's detractors say that he will be reelected when the new Congress convenes on Thursday.
"You can't beat somebody with nobody," one senior House Republican said on Tuesday, referring to what has turned out to be skittishness on the part of any viable alternative candidate to step forward, from the shadows or anywhere else.
Even conservative anti-Boehner forces outside of Congress who have been pushing to get House members to pick someone else are conceding that won't happen. They predict the Ohio Republican will win his second term as speaker on Thursday, in a vote set for shortly after noon, on the heels of this week's fiscal-cliff drama.
Whether that is viewed by fellow House members and the public as a good or bad thing, critics note that Boehner will continue to symbolize the Republican brand as their party's top elected official in Washington—and also as President Obama's main political foil.
"I hesitate to say it, but this goes to some degree to cowardice.… It turns out no one else seems willing to pick up the mantle," Ron Meyer, a spokesman for the conservative group American Majority Action, one of the groups that has been pushing for Boehner's ouster, said on Tuesday.
Under normal circumstances, Boehner's reelection as speaker on Thursday should be automatic.
But just two weeks ago, the refusal of dozens of Boehner's fellow Republicans to support his fiscal-cliff "Plan B" to avert income tax rates from rising on most Americans seemed to underscore a speakership in trouble. That setback for Boehner represented just the latest incident in which he has clashed with conservatives in his own conference and right-leaning outside groups, many of whom have regarded him as too willing to compromise with the White House and Democrats on taxes and other fiscal issues.
Boehner was even prompted last month to strip four Republicans from their coveted committee seats, creating more internal tension. Outside of Congress, a Rasmussen poll in late December showed Boehner's approval numbers at their lowest since becoming speaker in 2011, replacing Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi as the least-liked member of congressional leadership among all voters surveyed—with only 55 percent of Republicans approving of his performance.
And on Wednesday, Meyers's Virginia-based American Majority Action and other conservative groups were revving up new criticism of Boehner, for his decision Tuesday night to support and vote for the fiscal-cliff deal they demean as being "cut" by Vice President Joe Biden and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky. The speaker was among just 85 House Republicans ultimately voting for that measure. By contrast, the No. 2 and No. 3 House Republicans—Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., and Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif.—both voted against it, two of 151 House Republicans to do so.
Also on Wednesday, the Drudge Report was running an unscientific poll asking readers, "John Boehner for speaker of the House? Yea or Nay." As of noon, more than 85 percent of the more than 155,000 participants had answered "nay." And Boehner was facing a groundswell of new criticism from some Northeast House Republicans over a decision to not allow a vote on a Hurricane Sandy relief bill.
Declaring time for new leadership at the top of the House Republican Conference, American Majority Action and other groups have been urging the more than 100 House conservatives to consider blocking Boehner's reelection. They could do so by taking advantage of a rule requiring a speaker to be elected with an "absolute majority" of House member votes. That rule means just 17 Republicans voting for anyone other than Boehner could block him from getting the required 50 percent plus one. That's because 233 Republicans and 200 Democrats (there will be two vacancies) will comprise the makeup of the House when the 113th Congress officially opens with its quorum call on Thursday—and then moves to a vote for speaker.
Until any candidate receives the requisite majority of votes actually cast for someone (voting "present" does not count as a vote), the roll call is repeated until a speaker is elected. Such an anti-Boehner strategy would not be about handing the speaker's gavel over to Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California. It would be about blocking Boehner from keeping the gavel—and doing so long enough, through enough ballots, so that he is embarrassed or becomes seen as too diminished to qualify as speaker.
But the problem for the anti-Boehner "forces," says Meyer and House members, is that despite what has been chronic conservative disappointment over some of his activities, there has not emerged in the last two weeks any unified effort among even as few as 17 disgruntled House Republicans to carry out a maneuver to block him.
This article appears in the January 3, 2013 edition of NJ Daily as Rumors Aside, Boehner Election Seems Assured.


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The Sweetwater Chuck Wagon Gang has been around for quite some time and has served many Nolan County crowds, as well as other crowds when the Gang used to travel. The Gang specializes in cooking brisket, steak, potato salad, ranch style beans and other items. "We specialize in chuck wagon-style cooking," said member Tom Henderson. "We also pride ourselves in feeding many in a short period of time."
The Sweetwater Chuck Wagon Gang cooks for many local events including the Sweetwater Chamber of Commerce Banquet, the all-sports banquet, the Nolan County Livestock and Fair Association and the WASP Homecoming to name a few.
Potato Salad for 150 People
3 eggs
1-1.45 lbs. potatoes, cooked and diced
3 med. onions, chopped
3 dozen hard-boiled eggs (save 9 for garnish)
1 1/4 c. sugar
3 tbsp. salt
4 tbsp. mustard
Mix all together. Put into bowls. Slice eggs on top and sprinkle with paprika.
Rum Cake
1 box moist-style yellow cake mix
1/2 cup rum (I use Captain MorganŌĆÖs Black Spiced Rum)
1/4 lb. margarine or butter
1 cup sugar
1/4 cup water
Mix cake according to directions except substituting 1/4 cup rum for some of liquid called for in baking directions. Bundt cake pan works better. Pan needs to be sprayed with non-stick cooking spray.
Glaze: Place 1/4 lb. margarine, 1/4 cup rum, 1/4 cup water, 1 cup of sugar in pan. Bring to boil; boil 2-3 minutes. Drizzle over warm cake. Retain any glaze left to apply to cake later.
Any rum will work, but the spiced gives more taste.
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Ranch Style Beans
1 lb dry pinto beans
5 cups cold water
2 teaspoons chicken bouillon
4 ounces ham hocks
1/4 teaspoon liquid smoke
1 1/2 tablespoons combination of California chili powder (New Mexico, Hungarian Paprika. All Mild)
1 tablespoon brown sugar, plus
1 teaspoon brown sugar
1/2 teaspoon black pepper (for spicier beans add another 1/2 Tsp)
1/4 teaspoon cumin
1/2 teaspoon oregano
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder or 1 -2 garlic clove, minced
1 1/2 tablespoons onion powder or 1 medium onion, chopped
1 teaspoon seasoning salt (add in the last 30 min only)
1/4 cup tomato puree (add in the last 30 min only)
1. Wash beans and place in a large pot or kettle. Add water and remaining ingredients (except salt and tomato puree, which should be added in the last 30 minutes before beans are done). Cover and simmer for 5 to 6 hours. Check liquid level occasionally and add more water (add boiling water, never cold) as needed to keep beans covered.
2. If cooked in a crock pot, (you will need extra cup of water if you did not pre-soak) and cook them on the low setting. It also may take a little longer than the 5 to 6 hours.
3. Note: You can reduce cooking time by soaking beans overnight or using or (1 Hour soak method).
4. Add ┬╝ Cup of tomato puree with additional 1 tsp brown sugar in the last hour. Adjust salt and sugar to your liking.
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1-1.5 cups milk
2 tbsp Vanilla
1 tbsp Sugar
6-8 slices Sliced bread
Scramble eggs in bowl.
Add sugar, vanilla and milk.
Stir well as adding cinnamon.
Dip both side of bread in mixture for 2-3 seconds.
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Interpretive Handbook
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Cold Agglutinin Titer, Serum
Clinical Information Discusses physiology, pathophysiology, and general clinical aspects, as they relate to a laboratory test
The cold agglutinin titer test is to be used as a tool in the evaluation of suspected cold agglutinin syndrome. In this syndrome, cold agglutinins, usually IgM with anti-I specificity, attach to the patient's erythrocytes causing a variety of symptoms, from chronic anemia due to premature removal of the sensitized erythrocytes from circulation by hemolysis to acrocyanosis of the ears, fingers, or toes due to local blood stasis in the skin capillaries.
Useful For Suggests clinical disorders or settings where the test may be helpful
Detection of cold agglutinins in patients with suspected cold agglutinin disease
Interpretation Provides information to assist in interpretation of the test results
-Negative (no cold agglutinin detected)
-Positive (cold agglutinin detected, titer end point range will be reported)
-Patients with cold agglutinin syndrome usually exhibit a titer value >1:512, with rare cases reportedly as low as 1:64.
-Normal individuals often have low levels of cold agglutinins.
The test is not a direct measure of clinical significance and must be used in conjunction with other in vitro and in vivo parameters.
Cautions Discusses conditions that may cause diagnostic confusion, including improper specimen collection and handling, inappropriate test selection, and interfering substances
Normal individuals may have low levels of cold agglutinins. The cold agglutinins test is not specific for Mycoplasma pneumoniae and is not recommended to diagnose Mycoplasma pneumoniae infections. See MYCPN / Mycoplasma pneumoniae Antibodies, IgG and IgM, Serum.
Reference Values Describes reference intervals and additional information for interpretation of test results. May include intervals based on age and sex when appropriate. Intervals are Mayo-derived, unless otherwise designated. If an interpretive report is provided, the reference value field will state this.
Clinical References Provides recommendations for further in-depth reading of a clinical nature
1. Petz LD, Garratty G: Acquired Immune Hemolytic Anemias. New York, Churchill Livingstone, 1980
2. Farratty G, Petz LD, Hoops JK: The correlation of cold agglutinin titrations in saline and albumin with haemolytic anaemia. Br J Haematol 1977;35:587-595


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Sep 18, 2009
My friends picked up a flat of tomatoes for me last weekend. We love tomatoes but it became clear very quickly that we couldn't eat enough of them fresh so I decided to make salsa. Here they are all chopped up and lightly salted with pickling salt. They are raised up on a tray so they can drain most of their liquids out.
Have you ever peeled tomatoes? It is quite a interesting process. Bring a pot of water to a boil and put in some tomatoes. After 1-2 minutes lift them out and drop them into a sink full of cold water and BAM the peels will slide right off in your hands. Slippery though so hang on to them.
I ended up with a dozen jars of salsa full of tomatoes, onions, jalepenos and sweet peppers. There is also a healthy dose of cumin thrown in. Each jar gets about 3 tablespoons of lime juice to help with the acidity so the food stays safe to eat after a full processing time.
I found the recipe for this online and couldn't do it better myself so here is the link for this recipe: Canning Salsa I hope you have time to make some.
14 comments:
- Michelle said...
You've been busy! Love home canned salsa and I bet your Salsa is delicious!
- September 18, 2009 at 7:00 AM
- Rhonda @ Shellbelle's Tiki Hut said...
Let's see, I have the time, I just need to find some tomatoes as beautiful as those!
- September 18, 2009 at 7:22 AM
- ButterYum said...
I made my very first batch of canned jam this week, and now I have the bug! I wondered if I could can salsa, so this post came at the perfect time! Thanks so much for the link... I can't wait to get started.
Take care,
- September 18, 2009 at 7:50 AM
- Michael Lee West said...
Love this recipe--canned salsa, what could be better!
- September 18, 2009 at 8:30 AM
- ButterYum said...
Hi Lori - thanks so much for the book information... I'll definitely try to get my hands on a copy. Take care!
- September 18, 2009 at 9:32 AM
- ButterYum said...
SCORE - my local library actually has a copy of the book. Thanks so much for referring me to it!
- September 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM
- Mary said...
What a terrific idea and a great recipe. I love the reds and greens and oranges of fall harvest. This looks delicious.
- September 18, 2009 at 10:02 AM
- Libby Murphy said...
Oh it's so pretty and I can only imagine how delicious it must be. What a treat!
Happy Twrils
- September 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM
- Cass @ That Old House said...
Your own salsa! Why, you spicy chick, you!
I looks delicious!
- September 18, 2009 at 2:42 PM
- Cass @ That Old House said...
Oops ... I meant IT looks delicious, not "I" looks delicious.
Hahahaha... oh well. Cass
- September 18, 2009 at 2:43 PM
- Lori E said...
Thank you ladies. I had a couple cups left over and we have been eating it fresh on everything.
Cass I am sure you look delicious too.
- September 18, 2009 at 4:27 PM
- Lynn said...
Oh, I couldn't!
What if I killed everyone off with botulism!
- September 18, 2009 at 6:33 PM
- Joyce said...
Wow it seems everyone is posting about canning this week. I have never tried as I am always afraid of exploding jars etc:)
- September 18, 2009 at 7:14 PM
- Florida Sue said...
It looks as if you have been super busy. I bet every bite is/was delicious.
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