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July 1 marked the day when interest rates for subsidized Stafford loans for college students doubled.
Last week, the U.S. Senate passed a bill, retroactive to July 1, that would tie those rates to the 10-year treasury rate at the time a loan is approved. This year that would be 3.9 percent for undergraduates and 5.4 percent for graduate students.
But the proposal is still stalled in Congress.
"The subsidized loan interest rate increased from 3.4 percent to 6.8 percent," said Tracy Davis, director of financial aid at Southwestern Community College.
Unsubsidized loan interest rates will also drop from 6.8 percent to 5.4 percent.
In a White House press release dated July 23, the Obama Administration called on Congress to pass a compromise to keep student loan interest rates low this year by linking rates to the economy, something that could be said is similar to a roller coaster.
"Last year, it (interest rate reduction) expired, and they passed a one-year extension on that expiration," said Davis. "So, they were looking to do that again, and didn't."
The extension that kept interest rates low expired July 1. Then, Congress formed a new bill that will lower interest rates on subsidized loans for 2013, but that may not stay low in the future.
"The main difference that we tell our students between the subsidized and the unsubsidized is the subsidized would be the better of the two," said Davis, "because the interest doesn't start accruing until you're below half-time student. What that means at Southwestern is you're under six credit hours, or you've graduated or you've stopped attending."
The interest does not start accruing until six months after students are below the half-time student mark. Eligibility for subsidized loans is based on different variables in a student's life: income, family size and how many family members are in college, to name a few.
Instead of Congress voting on the student loan interest rates in future years, it will connect rates to market conditions. Rates will rise and fall based on the economy, like the hills and dips of a financial roller coaster.
According to a Time article, "congressional researchers project that the rate on new loans for undergraduates would be 4.62 percent for loans taken out next year and 7.25 percent for loans taken out in 2018. The bill caps the rate at 8.25 percent."
So, what does that mean for local college students?
"We're hoping, that because our costs are lower than some other colleges, hopefully the impact will be minimal to our students," Davis said. "Obviously, it's going to create a little larger loan payment, they're going to end up paying a little more on their loans before they are fully paid off."
Davis said there are other variables to look at when determining how the interest rates will affect college students and their college choices.
"It could deter students from enrolling in college," Davis said. "But it could also help us because a student's going to take less loans out with us here at Southwestern, than if they went off to a university."
It is estimated a college student in Iowa will save more than $1,500 over the life of their loans. More than 250,000 Iowans will be undergraduates during the 2013-14 school year.
"It's hard to predict exactly what's going to happen," Davis said. "You know, it might stop somebody from coming, but it also might make someone look at us a little bit closer."


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A natural born scorer, wouldve fit great with Paul George at the 3 position.
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A natural born scorer, wouldve fit great with Paul George at the 3 position.
He is making us pay for what? Wanting to acquire him but failing to do so because the Hornets and then the Grizzlies pulled out of the negotiations?
And him not wanting to come to this small market. So much so he took a pay cut.
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It does make me sick when I think of what Cuban picked up on his plan B free agency this year and he got every player at low ball prices. Kaman, Mayo, Brand,
DC and Jones. If Walsh could have forced a delay on Hibbert and Hill we might have made out much better. After an aggressive plan A he just waited around until options for Kaman and Mayo were diminishing and picked up an amnesty player in the process. Kind of sounds like something Bird would have done. Mayo has played better this year then I thought he would.
It's not as if we turned him down...And if we had somehow signed him he would have made Lance redundant and we would never have seen him come out of his shell in a Pacers uniform.
Who says that if Mayo came here he would be having the season he's having in Dallas? He could have come here and been just a chucker, and having fans complain about getting him. No one has a crystal ball that shows how a player will be if you would acquire them. Case in point is DJ Augustin. I never in my wildest dreams ever thought Augustin would such a bust in the 13 games he's played in a Pacers uni.
Exactly.He would have probably been sucked into the mediocrity(understatement) of this team this year.
As Collison's averages continue to fall toward what they were the past 2 seasons, people have to complain about something, I suppose. The front office didn't anticipate Granger's knee issue being so serious, so Mayo would've had a bench role, and we saw what he did in a bench role in Memphis. He's a guy who has to start and who has to take the most shots (or close to it) to be productive, so it didn't make any sense to sign him and he didn't want to come here anyway.
I'm not giving up on Gerald Green, the guy can score, just needs to become the scorer with that second unit by being more agressive and looking for his shot, same with D.J., lets not forget when Danny gets back Lance is moving to the second unit so we have 2 scoring options there in Gerald and Lance. I think Green will end up being a good pick up, just wait
Depending on how they playing it might be smarter to bring Granger off the bench.
Was money the reason we didn't sign Mayo? I remember there were reports that his agent was looking for, like, $9-10M per season. He eventually signed with Dallas for the bargain-basement contract of 2/$8.5M, so those earlier reports seem a bit hard to believe.
Anyway, maybe his play will come back down to Earth, but thus far, it's looking like a HUGE miss on our part.
We'll see how he handles Dirk coming back and not having the shot volume he has now.
I thought he signed a 2 year deal.
Also, I imagine Carlisle is making him look as good as he's capable of looking.
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I have always like Oj Mayo's games. Memphis was stupid trying to use his as the 6th man. He finally is starting again and look what he's been doing.
I thought these were some interesting comments from Mayo why he chose the Mavericks and Carlisle:
He wanted to be coached hard and Billups stressed to him how critical Carlisle was to his career blossoming.
I regret it as much as you do for us failing to get him, but we should be looking at the present and future.
Other SGs like OJ might become available soon and some of them could even be better players than Mayo.
Second year is a player option. It looks like he's probably gonna opt out if he keeps playing like this.
Bit Ironic, didn't the initial trade for Mayo fall through because Cuban whined like a little ***** about the Hornets being owned by the league and therefore should not be doing trades that aren't approved by owners?
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- Taghi Amirani
- London
- United Kingdom
Filmmaker - TED Senior Fellow, Amirani Media
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The west can no longer claim to be an honest broker in the search for peace in the Middle East.
Has Egypt exposed a blatant hypocrisy in the west's relationship with the Middle East? For decades the west has propped up and funded dictators in the region, preferring 'stability' to democracy in order to protect its own interests. All at the expense of the human rights of the people in the region. A people who have finally spoken and will continue to speak. Peacefully, elegantly and in a highly sophisticated manner.
For western leaders is freedom a question of strategy rather than principle?
A quote from Gary Younge in The Guardian: "Last week Tony Blair said Mubarak was "immensely courageous and a force for good". On Sunday he said Mubarak's departure could be a "pivotal moment for democracy in the Middle East". The man charged by the major world powers with bringing peace to the region can't make up his mind whether he is for despotism or democracy from one week to the next."
Adrian Hong
Feb 15 2011: The West cannot be an honest broker anywhere; either they've often engaged in the acts they condemn, or they were colonizers or oppressors in the places they try to help. The best countries can do is try to act responsibly and consistently, and use it's aid and influence as moderating, positive force. That does not mean that there are no noble intentions or genuine efforts at change and peace. They are, but they are so muddled in miscommunication, mixed messaging and inconsistent actions, as governments are large, large institutions, with many moving parts, that it will take a concerted, complete effort by a nation to really fire on all cylinders in order to make an impact and become an honest broker. We haven't seen that, except when nations mobilize for total war.
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Also, freedom and democracy are not the same thing, and one does not always lead to the other.Feb 15 2011: I'm cynical about governments doing anything in the foreign policy sphere that is for any reason other than to advance their own interests. The West is no better or worse than the East, except for hypocrisy--the rhetoric in the US and UK convinces many of their globally uninformed citizens that we are taking action for morally sanctimonious reasons rather than the real reasons for why we do things (China has no such pretenses). We may call it "human rights" or "democracy," but as far as I can tell, short of genocide (e.g. Rwanda, Bosnia), the West is unlikely to intervene unless some precious resource or geographically strategic location is at risk. The US is in no position to be an objective diplomatic force in the Middle East, but as the world's only super power, it can have major influence on the course of events. Theoretically, the West could be a force for the promotion of civil society and populist movements, but then they may find themselves in the undesirable situation of a Hamas or Hezbollah winning power by popular vote. Foreign intervention is tricky business, and US Citizens seem to only have short-term memory when it comes to the impact of their government's actions. I can imagine it's the same in the UK. I highly recommend Stephen Kinzer's book Overthrow, the story of the US's disastrous attempts to create regime change in 14 countries (from Hawaii to Iraq). Iran is still suffering big time from the CIA coup in 1952 to unseat our only democratically elected leader to date. That relatively small intervention (it took a month or so to pull off) still has major ripple effects in MidEast politics today.
Ralph Davis
Feb 16 2011: Well said, Nassim.
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Truman era US diplomat to the Soviet Union George Kennan wrote in 1948; " We have 50% of the world's wealth and 6% of the population. Our policy should be to develop relationships that maintains that disparity."
Given what's evolved in US foreign policy since, Kennan's brutally frank advisement was well heeded and embraced.
Pretense to spreading democracy, saccharine enabler to the body of lies, (thank you David Ignatius), is the choke point for anyone inclined to more than window-shop the history of US foreign policy.
Honest broker? Please.Feb 17 2011: "Iran is still suffering big time from the CIA coup in 1952 to unseat our only democratically elected leader to date."
Isn't this already an adequate answer to Taghi's question: "For western leaders is freedom a question of strategy rather than principle?"Feb 17 2011: You state "Foreign intervention is tricky business". Can you give even one example where it can be proven to have worked?
Phil Niles
Feb 15 2011: Is it possible for "Democracy" and "Freedom" to oppose one another? When Pew Global Research did a survey of Muslims in several countries on the role of Islam in politics, the results from Egypt (90% Muslim pop.) included:
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84% of Muslims favor the death penalty for leaving the religion
82% of Muslims favor stoning for committing adultery
77% of Muslims favor whippings/cutting of the hand for theft
54% of Muslims thought suicide bombing could be justified often, sometimes or rarely (8%, 12%, 34% - 46% never)
54% of Muslims favor gender segregation in the work place
Among those who think Islam is playing a "large" role in politics, 95% view this as a good thing
I believe in change for Egyptians. I believe in freedom for Egyptians. I believe in democracy for Egyptians. I don't believe these can all co-exist - so I find myself, from "the West," having to choose (and ignore) some of my principles. In your words, I guess I too am being a "dishonest broker" in the search for peace in the Middle East - but I don't think I'm dishonest, and I sincerely want peace.
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Hans Bauer
Feb 17 2011: I agree with your first statemant concerning democracy. But there are different qualities of choices, let us say, choices which are in concordance with democracy and choices against it. It is not the same if a majority favours death penalty or condemns it. Death penalty is irreversible! And it can easily be abused, for example to reduce the number of opposite opinions.
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Zdenek Smith
Feb 18 2011: Mark, I do see a problem with having majority imposing rules on minority or individuals if these rules clearly affects individual's basic human rights. For example, leaving religion is a basic human right and you cannot punish people for exercising their freedom of choice. Percentages of votes do not mean anything in this case.
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Many countries do protect minorities (disabled, native Indians etc) because majority is not always right. Free society should be looking at balance between the needs of various groups and ensure that basic human rights and freedoms (as per United Nations declaration) are upheld. I think that is why we do not let majority vote on such things in democracies.
In democracy, majority votes only on issues that effect everyone, there is not clear right answer and a decision has to be made e.g. voting for political parties.Feb 18 2011: my Political science prof's make sure to use the term "Liberal Democracy" to reinforce the idea that its not just majority rule. It has a guaranteed protection for individual rights. That list is showing the "un-liberal" popular opinon is in muslim areas. you will find many "un-liberal" ideas in fundementalist Christan areas as well. Democrocy is a good first step. Human rights dont nesicarily happen at the same time.Feb 22 2011: I disagree to yor reply given 4 days ago, Mark.
There are priorities, one of which is human life, and therefore different qualities. Who appreciates a non-violent kind of rule like democracy, regards this a higher level of humanity than authoritarian kinds of rule. Democracy yields among others the option to change government in certain intervals, to realize new ideas a majority regards better, to correct mistakes. Death penalty e. g. is by its inhuman and irreversible character against the spirit of democracy.
Imagine, if a country decides to abandon it for certain delicts or to totally abolish it, then from one day to the other have been executed against the dominating human opinion, irreversibly, incorrectably, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, ...
It will, of course, be regarded a progress of humanity that this will not happen again. Experience shows that death penalty does not reduce the number of capital crimes - criminals who commit them do not seem to fear it as much as good people fear being condemned erraneously. If so, death penalty rather wastes more lifes than it saves.
Now, to return to Taghi's main question, what about making war to hypocritically bring the gift of democracy? Many thousands of innocent people being killed, mutilated, deprived of their economic existence by a country calling itself democratic, the democratic majority there spending enormous sums that flow back to a minority which wanted and pursued this war? Ist this democracy? By the way, the same country still sticks to death penalty in some of its states.
In my opinion, such an attitude is far from real democracy and not bringing real freedom to the "freed" countries. It is strategy right away from both concepts.
Tim Colgan
Feb 17 2011: A big issue I have with your thinking is your "having to choose". It is not your choice to make. It is not the the choice of the US or the West to make who will lead another country.Feb 18 2011: @Phil Niles - Thank you for your contribution. I am intrigued by the statistics you present, having some difficulty reconciling them with the Egypt I know and have travelled in. Need some time to look into their origins, their accuracy, sample size of those surveyed etc.
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I am also intrigued by the following statement: "I believe in change for Egyptians. I believe in freedom for Egyptians. I believe in democracy for Egyptians. I don't believe these can all co-exist".
I need time to digest this too.
Phil Niles
Feb 18 2011: Hi Taghi! I haven't finished digesting those statistics myself. I wish I had analogous numbers for American/European views of the role of Christianity in government.
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Even if one assumes those statistics are true and that the laws will come to reflect those views, perhaps Egypt should still have a democracy nonetheless. Should the US have had a "democratic" system before there were equal rights for all? We still don't have equal rights for all today.
I need to see this change in Egypt as a step towards a better path, not as a solution. It's progress and there's a long road ahead. I think Western governments and Westerners are a little scared of the big change - at least this one is.
pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/Feb 19 2011: The U.S. foreign policy has never been one of nurturing democracy. (Indeed, the word itself was anathema to the government until World War I when it wanted to enter the war but the population was opposed. They were besieged with propaganda about fighting for democracy and the benefits of democracy - even though women could not vote.) After the U.S. emerged from World War II as the "leader of the free world," it began supporting military dictators around the globe as a way to "ensure stability," especially the stability of opening markets to U.S. companies. I am writing from Peru. South America has such a history. When the dictators were overthrown - by elections (Allende in Chile, murdered by the long arm of the CIA), uprisings, etc. - they were replaced by proxy governments,men dressed in suits, talking the talk of democracy, and doing the bidding of the U.S. government and U.S. corporations. Valuable resources are mined by US and Canadian companies, the products sent north to sustain the standard of living of developed countries. Very little is of this wealth remains in the host country.
These are limited democracies. There were 17 political parties in the last presidential election in Peru. That's a bit of democracy run-a muck -- but there is no economic democracy, not in the First or Third Worlds. Economic democracy seems to me to be a necessary ingredient, a foundation if you will, of political democracy.
Yes, I do think the veil was lifted off the discrepancy between words and deeds. The US talks but its actions speak to its own self interests - humanity be damned or imprisoned or tortured. The other hypocrisy exposed by the Egyptian revolution is that Israel opposed it. You would have thought that the "jewel of democracy in the Middle East" would have wanted some company.
Feb 20 2011: "Economic democracy seems to me to be a necessary ingredient, a foundation if you will, of political democracy."
Sure! Wars finally result of economic motives, even if others are being given as a pretext.Feb 20 2011: @Linda Nordquist - well argued and eloquently put.Feb 15 2011: I think mixing the policies of governments in with the opinions of its people is a mistake.
Yes, western (and eastern) governments have decided to go to war for economical reasons.
Yes, other western (and eastern) governments have stood idly by.
But both had considerable opposition in their population when the true motifs became clear, and will be met with more and more scrutiny in the future.
Indeed the only thing keeping the worlds people from standing up as one (as we have with Egypt) is precisely the differentiation between "eastern" and "western" countries, between the polemic images of towelheads and terrorists on one side and rednecks and oil-thieves on the other. Neither of those images does the respective side justice in any way.
If we can overcome this rhetoric, imposed upon us by our own governments and detractors, we can close the government gaps that have so far hampered us from achieving true peace, sustainability and prosperity for everyone. Auret van Heerden in his talk points out the flaws in our global supply chains, forced labour and exploitation running rampant. He also sees that governments are neither capable nor interested in changing what's happening, so he founded an NGO that exerts pressure on private industries to behave ethically. We should all follow his example, eastern, western, southern and northern alike. And it all starts here, at TED. And with people, not governments.
Phil Niles
Feb 15 2011: "I think mixing the policies of governments in with the opinions of its people is a mistake." Isn't this the essence of democracy though?
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"Indeed the only thing keeping the worlds people from standing up as one (as we have with Egypt) is precisely the differentiation between "eastern" and "western" countries, between the polemic images of towelheads and terrorists on one side and rednecks and oil-thieves on the other." I think there are some deeply ingrained principle differences (gender segregation, religious freedom) in addition to the exaggerated stereotypes that prevent the "world's people from standing up as one." This is a very hard problem.
Lastly, if people do base their deepest beliefs on opinions instead of facts (eg on wrongful stereotypes or on Allah/God), how do you plan to achieve world peace through democracy, where people would vote based on their beliefs? I support democracy, but moreover I support individualized solutions.
Feb 15 2011: You're right, in an ideal democracy state and people would be of the same opinion. The closest we have to that is I think the Swiss approach, which is fairly direct. Still, it's either waiting for our governments to ask our opinion or stand up and take matters into our own hands. Even if the government listens to its people, it still has national interests in mind when dealing with international issues. They are simply not equipped for global challenges, and the entire east vs west rift is certainly going to be a decisive one to tackle this century. Ideally, we'd start with ending the mentality.
Steve Varon
Feb 21 2011: i think that to be so smart and good looking as u r is criminal
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Feb 22 2011: Steve, this is one debate point I cannot argue against. Such smartness and good looks are of course reflected in your peace-loving self.
Ziona Etzion
Feb 16 2011: @Nassim Assefi When we take politics and religion out of the equation most people get along.
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Depends what people call Freedom? Freedom brings personal responsibility for all people to act
with restraint not imposing their views on others.
I too am cynical about governments, yet the question is would the "crowd" act more sensibly? Not
imposing their own interests, grabbing the riches and raping the weak?
Feb 17 2011: I'll try to answer your question:
For some reasons people are rich and others are poor, some are extremely rich and many are extremely poor. But are they different races or species? Would rich or poor people act and react in different ways under equal conditions?
I do not talk about individuals but the average of each group when I deny it. Many people would neither grab nor rape. But others, be they rich or poor, actually do, only that the rich one's grabbing and raping is not so evident and often justified by law and therefore named differently or simply kept secret.
I do not consider this a constitutional flaw of the human species but a consequence of social evolution. Man has on the one side indispensable instincts and on the other side intelligence. Man has to learn to combine these two sides, mankind itself and each individual. Suppression is certainly not the way to achieve this, but real democracy requires, demands it.
Does anyone have an proposal how to achieve it?
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Feb 22 2011: Not to be misunderstood: By "suppression" I did not mean suppression of either instincts or intellect but suppression through the ruling system which I do not regard a way to support what should be achieved.Feb 15 2011: Of course it appears as if freedom is seen as something something one needs to be able to 'afford' to support. In my opinion the roots lay back in the Iranian Revolution of 1979: Since then western governments feared religious fundamentalism to rise in any situation when someone claimed his/her civil rights. I am not saying this is or has ever been a adequate attitude, but it might is an explanation why western gouvernments supportet authoritarian regiems in exchange for what they understood as 'stability'.
As much as all this is a reason for indignation, I do not think it is something to be indignant over now: Everyone has know it for ages. Still western gouvernments beheavoir got even more scandalous after the revolution already had started: Members of the french administration retourned from vacation just before the revolution started while the rest just waited if the tunisian and egyptian people "étant nettoyé au Karcher" (to quote Sarkozy), or if they would have to congratulate.
Roi Shpaner
Feb 15 2011: Which is better? do you prefer the US army would march to Cairo and take Mubarak down forcefully, leaving a void unready to be filled? Sanctions might have been at order, but you must consider all the alternative endings to these scenarios and their possible results, I would bet that the Arab League would disapprove of any such interference that was not first backed by the people's strong call for help. I think the will of the Egyptian people and the effects of time and the information age have done their part as they should have.
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I can only hope from the Israeli perspective that our long lasting peace agreement (which was very beneficial to the entire region) will stay in place, and the relations between our two countries will only grow stronger.Feb 26 2011: This is what Defence Secretary Robert Gates said on Friday 25th February 2011
"In my opinion, any future Defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should 'have his head examined,' as General MacArthur so delicately put it," Gates said in a speech to cadets at West Point.
And this from British PM David Cameron in a speech in Kuwait while on an arms sales tour of the Middle East
"Britain is prejudiced for believing Muslims cannot manage democracy"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/22/david-cameron-uk-muslims-democracy?INTCMP=SRCHFeb 25 2011: I have given thought to a plot to a movie which analyzed the aftermath of a terrorist event which left Jerusalem uninhabitable for 10,000 years. The protagonist being the athiest perpetrator of the crime. A thought-provoking movie in the vein of "Watchmen".Feb 24 2011: It was not at any time abundantly clear during the outset of the protests in Egypt that events would have a happy ending as many people seem to think it has. The only template policy makers and observers in the West had for anything of this sort occuring in this region was the Iranian Revolution of thirty years ago. As you may or may not recall,this uprising of the Iranian people against a despotic monarch, the Shah, also began with pluralistic intentions.At the forefront of the popular opposition to the Shah were largely groups who were seeking a contemporary- styled democracy based upon representation, elections, and a one-man-one-vote. Just as in Egypt the military stood by and waited to see which faction would eventually win out. They however knew something the protesters did not fully appreciate: the radical Islamists were utterly ruthless and fully capable of hijacking this popular "democratic" wave in order to install a strict Islamic theocracy. Unfortunately they were aided in this by elements in the liberal Western news media who played up the exiled status of the Ayatollah; even calling him at one time "the George Washington of Iran".
I am not attempting to excuse the frequent and egregious policy bungling of the US, especially in this region. But the interests of any given nation is not a simple and striaghtforward proposition. It is full of more of the unseen than the seen, and changes rapidly so that at any given moment the interests of a nation may undergo 180 degrees reversals,without warning or preparation.
Feb 24 2011: Egypt 2011 is not Iran 1979. On so many levels. Of course there's more to the scene than we see. But allow me to quote Professor Juan Cole from his "Top Five Myths about the Middle East Protest" posted on his site Informed Comment on 20 Feb 2011:
"Yusuf Qaradawi, the 84-year-old preacher whose roots are in the old Muslim Brotherhood before the latter turned to parliamentary politics, is nevertheless no Ayatollah Khomeini. Qaradawi addressed thousands in Tahrir Square in Cairo on Friday. Qaradawi called for Muslims to fight the Taliban and al-Qaeda alongside US troops in 2001. On Friday he praised the Coptic Christian role in the Egyptian revolution and said that the age of sectarianism is dead. Qaradawi is a reactionary on many issues, but he is not a radical and there is no reason to think that either the Youth or Workers' Movements that chased Hosni Mubarak out of the country is interested in having Qaradawi tell them what to do."Feb 23 2011: The words "no longer" imply some recent change in policy. We've always been hypocritical. That being said, the idea that foreign policy can be reduced to which side of freedom you're on strikes me as silly especially in a country with such an elusive identity like the US, where I live.Feb 23 2011: If Tony Blair said one day that Mubarak was "immensely courageous and a force for good", and then the next day that Mubarak's departure could be a "pivotal moment for democracy in the Middle East", it would only suggest that Tony Blair was suggesting that Mubarak was immensely courageous and a force for good, whose departure could be a pivotal moment for democracy in the Middle East, without further clarifying should Mubarak ever refuse to step down, then the staying on of such an immensely courageous Mubarak, who was a force for good, would be an aggravating moment to "demon crazy" in the Middle East, or not, as well as without specifying "good for whom and/or for what". After all, he collaborated with another politician, who sometimes exhibits the symptoms of dyslexia on TV, in lying to Brits and Americans into invading Iraq. What would any sane person expect of him?Feb 23 2011: Accepting this statement as fact, how do we proceed and support the relationship?Feb 23 2011: I will concede that the West has lost what little it had of the moral high ground due to recent events (though it is worth mentioning that many of the same people that denounce the west for not being active enough, especially those coming from the political spectrum, have voiced little or no such objections for this pattern of behavior over the last 30 years). But I think there is another question to be asked about the very notion the mediation is an essential part of negotiations.
What I mean is: If two sides to any conflict are not interested in a solution, can any mediation help? And, if two sides toa conflict ARE truly interested in a solution, how essential is mediation to begin with?
An example: In his book "Innocent Abroad", Martin Indyck mentions that the US was completely oblivious the ongoing secret negotiations between the PLO and Israel until a very late stage. The same was to be said for the Israeli-Jordanian track.Feb 22 2011: Here and there in these threads we find the occasional distortion of the true nature of the uprisings in the Middle East and North Africa. Statistics of questionable accuracy and origin are presented to scare us into thinking we're witnessing a wave of extreme Islamic revolutions. Individuals thousands of miles away from the region are expressing opinions as to what WE need to choose for the people in the region. Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has said "We need to manage the change" to get the outcome we want. So far, so the same.
These are economic revolutions above all else.The people on the streets in their millions are crying out for better jobs, better living standards, civil liberties and human rights, In Cairo's Tahrir Square Christians protected the Muslims while they prayed, the Muslims protected the Christians while they prayed. Young and old, educated and the uneducated walked together from all sections of the society. And yes, they even managed to organise and walk when the web was down. They used paper, flyers, word of mouth. And so, no, these are not Facebook and Twitter revolutions.
This week in the midst of the chaos and bloodshed British Prime Minister David Cameron is touring the region on a trade mission. His entourage: the biggest British arms manufacturers who've been selling weapons to dictators for decades.
So far, so the same. Blood and oil make a deadly mixture.
Feb 27 2011: So far you are answering your question yourself, don't you?
But it was wise to challenge others before to post their opinions.
By the way: I couldn't go on reading after: "David Cameron's efforts to promote democracy in the Middle East by becoming the first foreign leader to visit Cairo..."Feb 21 2011: Something to add to the debate:
Feb 19 2011: The west , in my opinion wasn't never an broker in the search for peace in the Middle East , who wanna check that should just look at the majors events after the collapse of URSS. But it's logic and 'normal' , everyone seeks just is own interest , the west in the name of peace , others in the name of ...whatever, and who's the best will take adventages , in my opinion , Israel was the best unitl now , and they still are.Feb 19 2011: I agree - but then "honest" is a subjective term
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When I read the political perspectives written on Huffington Post about the recent Egyptian "revolution" it makes me cringe.
The rampant self-interest in the perspectives screams from the page when they talk about wanting a leader to come through that supports "American interests" .
It's definitely honest ... no doubt about it - honestly self-interested and self-serving.
How about supporting a leader that supports democracy and social justice? Or maintaining peace with Israel?
Neither of these would be co-incidental with the "American interests" who profit from maintaining dictatorships and selling weapons to both sides of the conflict would they?
For example, Halliburton, a corporation that has massively profited from their close relationship to the US government would much prefer that there were "security concerns" as it drives their revenue agendas - and their large political lobbying interests.
Western leaders have consistently demonstrated that their "self-interest" is their priority - the time has come for more "self-awareness" rather than "self-serving" and looking for win-wins that benefit the people rather than the dictators.
Feb 21 2011: I don't think that just western leaders are seeking their self-interest but and all leaders from Middle East..........in my view it's something normal.Feb 19 2011: Unfortunately, it's never a simple brew. Of course there are human rights that should never be infringed and, obviously, a government of the people, such as democracy, is the ideal state of affairs.
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However, I must preface this with the remark that while America is certainly a world player it is not our job to topple every regime that is not a democracy; nor is this a viable or practical option for various, I think somewhat self-evident, reasons. So when it appears that America is making deals with dictators and autocratic regimes it is, I'm certain, just the most pragmatic course of action considering, as always, that these countries have resources and, curse me for saying it, leverage, all of which we need and , to procure them, there needs to be some compromise, even if that means dealing with a corrupt government.
I think Obama, personally, and his administration generally, by degrees, would love to just jump out and say that the whole force of America is behind the people of the free movement and that...DUH! Hard handed censorship and police brutality is WRONG. But the leaders of these nations, whether through fear, culture, detachment, or distended morals believe otherwise. To openly slander these governments, by siding unambiguously with the protesters, would immediately create an enemy in a vital state especially if the revolt should fail.
In many cases it is through the nearly red-herring of fear of terrorist regimes that creates a need for these governments who can, by proximity, directly move to ameliorate the issue. Moreover, and importantly, there is oil. If Obama were to side with the people, blatantly, and they were to lose, whose to say the now pissed off leader who once thought of America as an 'ally' would not now take measures to stifle trade? This would directly harm the American people, rocketing prices, negative world presence and so on...I do not aim to say the US has acted well or not, but, I do think that hypocrisy may be extensiveFeb 17 2011: A kind of answer was alredy given about 100 years ago by Ambrose Bierce:
OCCIDENT, n. The part of the world lying west (or east) of the Orient. It is largely inhabited by Christians, a powerful subtribe of the Hypocrites, whose principal industries are murder and cheating, which they are pleased to call "war" and "commerce." These, also, are the principal industries of the Orient.
Feb 17 2011: To which we might add Gandhi's response to the question "What do you think of Western Civilization?"
He responded "I think it would be a good idea."
Feb 17 2011: Gandhi said so before I was born. Meanwhile a lot of things happened.Feb 17 2011: The civil society can only help. We should stop relying only on governmental powers inside or outside countries, whether east or west.Feb 16 2011: I live in the land between east and west. Have walked across the west and through the east with PEACE in my heart. I happen to live in the Heartland. I believe i can be a broker for peace anywhere in the world within anyone in the world. The only thing that defines 'place' when referring to peace is 'the heart of hearts of reality' that balance within the balance of well being. East West North or South...it is all within the spiraling truth of experiencing, knowing and feeling peace within as without.
Politics is the art of relationships. Dancing together one to one. Group to Group. Nation to nation. When WE all learn to dance wholeheartedly with all our 110 trillion cells within our body with THE CREATOR...politics will naturally flow into the reality of peace, freedom and ultimate well being of ONESELF.
Seeking wisdom from the center of the heart of reality ....makes all things east, west, north and south trusted advisors.Feb 16 2011: We all talk about the Tunisian and Egyptian revolutions spreading elsewhere in the Middle East and Asia. Isn't it about time here?
Feb 18 2011: and where is here?Feb 16 2011: I think it has definitely exposed the blatant hypocrisy, not only with the West with the Middle East, but also the West with its own population. Surely a shift in the right direction.Feb 16 2011: Absolutely true. But in the West, and the US in particular, if you say such things you a re labeled unpatriotic and an anti-semite. To which I say, "Remember the USS Liberty." It's not just Israel--the US Government, "in our name," is best of friends with 42 of the 44 dictators on the planet. We live in an insane asylum, the sane are the ones who are NOT in power.Feb 16 2011: The People's revolution in Egypt has and will dramatically changed the course of events in the Middle East, especially with regards to the power players and the peace process, and has created now a new breed of local forces that each of the Middle East governments and the West has to give weight to, namely the Youth. The reality that unfolded following the events in Egypt and the position of the West vis-a-vis the outcome of the leadership in Egypt has changed the role and importance of the West, especially related to the peace process.
Goh Lip
Feb 16 2011: Where there are geopolitical interests, there cannot be any honest broker, anywhere, period.
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The 'west', lead (read - bribed, threatened or bullied) by the 'leader of the free world' would see to it that their interests are preserved, nothing else would matter. Nevertheless, the need to appear principled and just is equally important, so as to gain consent and agreement for their actions; hence the calls for democracy and human rights.
The assasinations of many elected leaders, eg Lumumba, Mussadeth, Allende and many others; and the support for human rights and democracy for the people when their dictators, eg Mubuto, Shah, Pinochet and many others were overthrown should surely adduce to the nefarious, hypocritical and mendacious 'principles' of the 'free world'.
Furthermore, the people in the 'most free' country are themselves subjected to the ultimate insidous form of oppression; for thinking they are supremely free and democratic due to their electoral and capitalist systems, they do not realise that both political parties and other levers of control are subjucated by very narrow business interests and like the part of the world their country dictates to, they themselves are being exploited and oppressed, numbed by propagandist iterations by the media.
While we rejoice for the people of Egypt and Tunisia (and others more to come), violence in the world will not trully abate until the people of the 'freest country' have their own revolution.
The greatest perveyor of violence on earth today - my own government.
- Martin Luther King
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
- John F KennedyFeb 16 2011: "For western leaders is freedom a question of strategy rather than principle?" Of course, it has been the case for decades. If it wasn't the case the US would have invaded Saudi Arabia instead of Afghanistan and Iraq.Feb 16 2011: As far as the main question is concerned: One does not need to be an "honest broker" to desire peace.
"Has Egypt exposed a blatant hypocrisy in the west's relationship with the Middle East?" No, it was clear to all that the west backed the status quo.
"A people who have finally spoken and will continue to speak. Peacefully..." Not having your foresight I'll wait and see.
"For western leaders is freedom a question of strategy rather than principle?" Both.
As for the Tony Blair quotes, there may well be a contradiction if one reads both quotes in full but in the passages that you quote there is none.
In general do not be surprised if western politicians do what they think is best for their own constituents.
I happen to agree that it would be better for the west to encourage democracy everywhere and deal with whatever it throws up, but in the past some leaders have, honestly, thought that real politik was the best policy at certain times. It's easy for us, keyboard warriors, to blame them when they get it wrong.


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- Elizabeth Rivas
- Downey, CA
- United States
Struggling Student,
This conversation is closed.
Do you believe TED is elitist and exclusive?
My main reason for asking this question is to find out how you,the members feel about TED as a non-profit organization. I've recently been looking into TED because of a research paper for school and I've been aiming to argue against the idea that TED is elitist and that they are exclusive. However I would really like to hear from other people whether you believe TED is in some ways elitist and/or exclusive.
edward long
May 30 2013: If you look at the cost of attending a TED event you realize most of America cannot afford to attend. On that basis one might jump to the conclusion that TED is just for the rich and famous. That would be a profound fallacy in logic. Examine the services and tools on TED.com available to the commoner. TED Conversations is administered to allow open, free-of-charge, access to the hoi polloi. Look at the feature called "TED Ed". Look at the Talks; Playlists; Conferences; TEDx events; and TED Community. As others have indicated already in this conversation, rules and standards are NOT an indicator of exclusivity. My answer to your question is a most emphatic NO!
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Jun 3 2013: Thank you very much for your thoughts on the question I posed. I agree with you most definitely and think that people outside of TED who know nothing about the positive impact TED has on the community would jump to a conclusion based on what they see from the outside. Critics are going to be there no matter what and this is why people should do their own investigation and at least decide for themselves what to believe about TED
Jun 3 2013: Bravo, young lady. It's called Critical Thinking!
pat gilbert
May 30 2013: Any club that would have me for a member is not elitist, which gives me pause on continued participation because of the lack of standards this indicates.
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edward long
May 30 2013: Do not discontinue your valued participation, sir. To do so would make TED appear to be elitist and exclusive. We are the coal mine canaries. And don't belittle yourself, that's what we are here for.
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May 30 2013: That is an old Groucho line, probably before your time?
May 30 2013: You Bet Your Life with announcer George Fenniman, Tuesday nights, 7PM, on NBC. Say the magic word split a hundred dollars! Now we're being elitist in a chronological sense.
May 30 2013: You reminded me of another of Groucho's quotes:
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"I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member" Groucho MarxMay 30 2013: Tonight's magic word is elitist.May 30 2013: I love your sense of humor Pat.....makes me smile.....most of the time...sometimes not so much...maybe that means one of us is well balanced..........LOL:>)
I agree....if TED would let us in, it must not be elitist:>)May 30 2013: is this like reverse modesty?
pat gilbert
May 30 2013: self effacing humor
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adesh saxena
May 30 2013: Not at all elitist and exclusive.
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TED for me is ...
To Eradicate Darkness
Think Evolve Develope
Jun 3 2013: I love how you defined TED for yourself. It sounded poetic :) TED is a beaming light onto a world still filled of darkness
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May 31 2013: Yes. TED-conversation is the quality of every human being !
Barry Palmer
May 29 2013: Lets simplify this.
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ANY site that does not let ANYone post ANYthing can be labeled "elitist and exclusive."
By that criteria, TED certainly is "elitist and exclusive."
That is why TED is BETTER, and that is why I visit it so often.
If you want a quality site, you have to pick and choose (curate).
IMO, people who criticize TED as "elitist and exclusive" are being lazy. TED must have some faults that can be described in much more specific and more meaningful language. Let us know what they are, so we can make TED even better.
Jun 3 2013: This made me laugh. I really like what you had to say. Curation has to take place if we want quality. Plus I'm sure the people who curate TED go to great lengths to be unbiased and unprejudiced in their picking and choosing what gets to be seen. I am sad to hear though the instances that TED hasn't put up a video of a speaker. I am talking about one speech given by Nick Hanauer on income equality. It wasn't put up because it was an election year and it was too political. When I read things like that it makes me feel like there's another side to TED.Jun 3 2013: Then again, the article I was reading was already biased against TED. Still, the fact that they didn't put this video up makes me question TED
Barry Palmer
Jun 3 2013: We should question TED just as we question everything. I do not think anyone considers TED perfect.Jun 4 2013: I find the this site to be less elitist than the supporters forum of my favourite football team.
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Sean Brother
May 31 2013: I don`t know very well if TED is elitist and/or exclusive.
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But what I know, and I know it very well is that TED has given me the opportunity of listen about new ideas, view new perspectives, know different ways of life, watching amazing images, and, at least for me, TED has been and now is an open window to a world I like and where I feel comfortable.
Thanks, TED.
Lamb Lamb
May 30 2013: .........TED is in some ways, TED is elitist, TED is exclusive.
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For example, communicative room is provided to everyone who loves to open their hearts and their minds to others.
In short, a big team is building " funs and strengths " in different levels all over the world.
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May 29 2013: In your paper you will likely want to define what you mean by "elitist" and "exclusive." Anyone in the world can listen to the talks for free, so no one is excluded from listening and learning. But not everyone can just walk up onto the stage. TED or the TEDx curators, select in order to showcase the most exciting and original ideas. So no one is excluded from commenting on talks or participating in Conversations, but not everyone gets to talk on stage who might want to.
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Does curation make something elitist or exclusive?
Jun 3 2013: Thank you for your input. It has helped me organize my paper and it's becoming a lot more fluid for me to write.
I would have to say curation itself doesn't make something elitist or exclusive but it would depend on the person or group of people who did the curating. The curator could be prejudiced which would directly affect the content being shown. If the curator was unbiased, or at least attempted to judge content reasonably within their knowledge, then they wouldn't be elite or exclusive.
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Jun 3 2013: I would define elitist as an idea of superiority. If you consider yourself to be elite you put yourself and your opinions above others. As for exclusive, I would define it as being a result of being elitist. If you consider yourself abover others you exclude them automatically from saying what they think or feel to be true.
I don't see TED as either, but for a short time I think I was letting what critics wrote in articles to overpower the truth behind TED. TED is still a place for sharing ideas and using those ideas to make something happen.
I agree with you, speakers are elite in their fields but this isn't a bad thing. We want the most knowledgable people to share their ideas because they know what they're talking about. If we want to make a difference we need the most provocative thinkers to do it. That doesn't mean that the speakers see themselves as superior though. TED doesn't just focus on one person, but on all the people who contribute their ideas.Jun 5 2013: I believe the only requirement to participate in TED conversations is that you refrain from obscenities and threats of violence. That's a pretty low bar, and hardly describes elitism.Jun 3 2013: Well, here's what TED has to say about it (not sure if you knew).
Jun 3 2013: Thanks Jimmy, I have actually read the page already about what TED has to say to critics concerning their "elite" and "exclusive" ways. It has helped a little bit, but mainly hearing responses from other members has helped me even more. I love how some people define or describe TED. Words are powerful and these words I've read from commentors have moved me :)Jun 1 2013: noMay 31 2013: Hi Dear Elizabeth Rivas,don't you think"no any child left behind" the idea is an exact discrimination for some kids who failed in testing exams,meanwhile preventing people who have creative ideas to be outstanding is definitely unjust too?May 31 2013: TED using site domain .com (Commercial) this enough to explain TED isn't Not-For-Profit. Reasonable if they act elitist and exclusive, because they have priority for business things. However, TED has given the opportunity to people under CC licenses. I thinks it's great deal.
Jun 5 2013: Many not-for-profit organizations use ".com" simply because that's the first extension people think of, so it's easier to remember. I think that's the case with TED, as with my own non-commercial web sites.May 30 2013: I come here to have my own views challenged, for me to have the opportunity to challenge the views of others and to learn and contribute. If that duality is freely given/taken, then it cannot be elitist or exclusive.
Learning and contributing is therefore neutral. However, elitism has shown its ugly face when the views of someone giving a talk was withdrawn because it didn't match the views of those who mediate - as happened recently with Rupert Sheldrake. I for one, remain disappointed by that. In "Ideas Worth Spreading", there did seem to be a problem with the word "Worth" on that one occasion, leading to overtly elitist behaviour I'm sorry to say.
Apart from that one unfortunate mistake, TED seems open to everyone who wants to learn and contribute.May 30 2013: what does elitist even mean? it is the good old 99% vs 1% again. a club we are not a member of is automatically shady, isn't it?May 30 2013: Definitively not, anyone can join, anyone can watch the talks, anyone can comment, and since no one is excluded it cannot be classified as exclusive nor elitist. Attending to a life event is of course expensive and because of that reserved for the few that can pay for it, but like Edward wisely explained: concluding that TED is elitist and exclusive because of that is a misconducted reasoning.
Jun 3 2013: Yes, all very true!Critics are always going to have something negative to say, but it doesn't mean that it's automatically true. People who really wish to attend the event, like myself, will have the drive and motivation to figure out a way to go no matter what.
Jun 3 2013: Hope you can really go and have a good sit... and of course I envy you. Good luck.


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