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Hero Hostess Introductions Day 1!
Hi everyone! We're so happy you're here today! It's a big day, and it's going to be a big WEEK, as we introduce a new group of Hero Hostesses!! That's right, the Hero Hostess sisterhood is growing…and we couldn't be more excited!
What exactly is a Hero Hostess? While our Flickr group members and long-time blog readers are likely familiar with the Hostess program, here is a post with more information. Hero Hostesses are chosen for their wonderful contributions to the Hero Arts Flickr Group discussions and challenge submissions. Simply put — they inspire, they encourage, and they help make the Hero Arts community a special place.
So let's jump right in and welcome our newest Hero Hostess…none other than Cheiron Brandon (cheironbrandon)! Just look at this beautiful friendship card she created for us today. Such a lovely combination of stamps, die cuts, and colors! Perfect for Spring.
Find out how to make this card — click for complete supplies and instructions.
Now, let's get to know Cheiron with a little stamping Q & A!
How long have you been stamping and how did you get started? I started stamping in 2004 when a stamp store opened a mile down the street from my house. I took my first card making class there (using Hero Arts stamps) and have been stamping ever since.
When did you discover the Hero Arts blog and did you leap into the Flickr group right away too? I have been reading the Hero Arts blog for a few years now, but just started to participate in the flickr group in the beginning of 2011.
What is your favorite kind of card to stamp? My favorite type of card to stamp is a hello or thinking of you card. I love to send cards "just because", it's always nice to get something in the mail besides bills!
If you could have one "stamping wish" what would it be? My one stamping wish would be to have someone to clean up after me between projects!
You can find more of Cheiron's work here at Flickr and on her blog. Cheiron, we're honored to have you as a Hostess. Thank you!!
Tomorrow brings another Hero Hostess introduction…we'll see you then!
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Bronx, NY (Sports Network) - CC Sabathia was at his best, outdueling Tampa Bay ace David Price, as the Yankees downed the Rays, 5-3, in the rubber match of a three-game set at Yankee Stadium.
Sabathia (5-0) gave up an unearned run in each of the first two innings but then dominated over the next six frames, scattering seven hits with 10 strikeouts and one walk.
"I go out there with the intention of winning every game," said Sabathia. "You know, this was the rubber game and I was going up against a tough guy, so I just wanted to pitch as well as I could."
Curtis Granderson hit his 11th home run of the season and Robinson Cano added a two-run shot for the Yankees, who have won three of four overall.
Price (5-2) gave up five runs on 11 hits with four strikeouts and three walks over seven frames, laboring throughout as the Yankees kept the pressure on.
"I thought I pitched a pretty good game," said Price. "Just a few bad throws I made and they hit them well."
Sean Rodriguez finished with two hits and Elliot Johnson added two hits and scored two runs for the Rays, who have dropped four of five.
Tampa staked Price to a 2-0 lead in the first two frames, but it could have been more. Carlos Pena's single to right scored Rodriguez, but Nick Swisher gunned down Jeff Keppinger at the plate.
Rodriguez drove in the run in the second, slapping a two-out single to center that scored Johnson. The at-bat was possible after Eduardo Nunez made a fielding error earlier in the frame.
That was pretty much the extent of the Tampa offense. It did put its first two runners on in the fourth, before Will Rhymes grounded into a double play and Ben Zobrist hit a lazy fly ball to left. Sabathia retired seven straight before Chris Gimenez's leadoff single in the seventh. The Rays put two on in that frame before B.J. Upton struck out swinging.
New York tied the game in the second as Granderson hit a line drive home run to right then Nunez walked, stole second and scored on Chris Stewart's single to center.
The winning tallies then came in a three-run fifth. Swisher hit a single to right and trotted home on Cano's long home run to right-center field. Alex Rodriguez followed with a double and came home on Andruw Jones' two-out two-bagger.
Rafael Soriano came in to save the game with David Robertson unavailable and immediately allowed a single to Johnson, who stole second and moved to third on Matt Joyce's groundout. Rhymes' RBI groundout made it a 5-3 game, but Zobrist hit a fly ball to center to end the game.
Cano's home run was his third of the season...Granderson now has 20 runs batted in...Nunez picked up his fifth and sixth stolen base of the campaign...Price saw his four-start winning streak come to an end.

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21 Apr 2007
|Killington Pond Skimming Postponed
I just happened to be looking at the Killington web site and saw a tiny notice that the Pond Skimming event scheduled for today has been postponed to noon tomorrow, Sunday April 22.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor
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16 Apr 2007
|Final Vermont Pond Skimming Contest of the Season
The final pond skimming event in Vermont this season will be held at Killington Ski Resort this Saturday, April 21. This is the 26th year these lunatics have gone out of their way to get soaking wet in cold weather. What could be more fun? Watching, for one.
If you haven't seen one of these events, there is a good description and a video on the Scenes of Vermont website.
It's good, wholesome entertainment for everyone except the participants but they don't know any better so it's OK.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor
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14 Apr 2007
|Vermont Chocolate Show May 26 and 27
I know that I'm way out in front of this May event but I wanted to have it on record for readers who search by category or use the search function. And I will mention it again in this blog closer to the event date.
The 1st Annual Vermont Chocolate Show will be held May 26 and 27 2007 at the Stoweflake Resort in Stowe Vermont. Note on the website that they are looking for volunteers so maybe you can help out and snag some free candy.
Someone has put a lot of thought into this one. Look at these events: chocolate art display; chocolate education programs, including cooking demos and healthful tips; children's chocolate land; chocolate martini bar & beer Lounge; ultimate chocolate breakfast; chocolate spa treatments. Sounds yummy. Don't forget to bring insulin.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus
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30 Mar 2007
|April Fools at Bolton Valley
Bolton Valley Ski Area will flip their normal adult lift ticket from $52 to $25 tomorrow to celebrate April Fool's Day. They are open from 8:30 am to 4:00 pm. This ski area, about 25 minutes south of Burlington VT, is popular with locals who want to avoid the crowds and higher costs of the nearby big name resorts of Stowe and Sugarbush.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus
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28 Mar 2007
|Vermont Ski Area Events This Weekend
April 1, Bromley Ski Area's Foolish Special two-for-one Sunday when you can get two lift tickets for the price of one. Bromley is Vermont's only mountain with southern exposure so it gets sun all day long. Located near Manchester in the southwestern part of the state, so this is a popular place for people from Albany and central Massachusetts.
Killington is hosting one of its biggest annual events, the 27th Annual Bear Mountain Mogul Challenge from Saturday, Mar 31 to Monday, April 2. The event draws a thousand or so spectators to watch the great abilities of some 200 amateur bump skiers and boarders.
Boarding for Breast Cancer, March 31 and April 1, sponsored by Stowe Mountain Resort and Boarding for Breast Cancer Casual, fun, educational, fund raising events: March 31 - B4BC Slopestyle Event for riders, skiers, or telemarkers; April 1 - Group Jam in the Lower North Slope Terrain Park including Groups of 3 / Costume Contest/ Dye your Hair Pink.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor
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27 Mar 2007
|Date Change for Sugarbush Pond Skimming and Reggaefest
Sugarbush has changed the date of its Pond Skimming and Reggaefest from Sunday April 1 to Saturday March 31. Pond skimming is an event where the competitors try to cross a shallow pond on their skis or boards without falling down. As they say, it's all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then it's funny.
This is a great Vermont tradition, now in its 40th year. You are welcome to watch or join in. There will be prizes for Best Skier, Best Rider, Best Costume, Best Jr., Best Crash'n'Splash. There will also be live music with lots of laughter and relaxing enjoyment. Always a fun event. Admission is $25. Located at Sugarbush's Lincoln Peak ski area.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus
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HARRISBURG – Governor Tom Corbett on Thursday ceremonially signed the Firefighter Grant Program law, also known as Senate Bill 866, providing grant money for Pennsylvania's fire, ambulance and emergency companies.
I'd say Corbett is too little, too late. Just like4 his investigation of Sandusky. He had the ability to stop him much sooner as our attorney general but didn't. No sense in pandering now Tommy. You'll be history soon.


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I followed the recipe but also added 1/4 cup ground flaxseed and 1/4 cup of chopped pecans. I will definitely be making these again!
Bev's Chocolate Chip Cookies
From EatingWell: Spring 2004, The Essential EatingWell Cookbook (2004), July/August 2012
EatingWell reader Beverley Sharpe of California contributed this recipe. She updated a favorite treat by cutting back on sugar and incorporating whole grains. To increase protein, she replaces the rolled oats with 1 cup almond meal.
176 Reviews for Bev's Chocolate Chip Cookies
I used Agave Nectar instead of the sugar and they aren't worth the calories to eat. Maybe they would be better with real sugar but I wouldn't serve these to anyone. I won't recommend this recipe to anyone
I did substitute applesauce for canola oil so maybe that was the problem but I wasn't impressed with this recipe. It was okay, but lacked flavor. I wouldn't bother making them again.
These were the best chocolate chip cookies i have ever tasted! I used olive oil instead of canola and i didn't ground up the oats. We baked for only 10 minutes and let them sit for 5. They were super moist and incredibly delicious!
My 9,6 and 2yr olds loved these cookies. They really couldn't care they were healthy or not, they literally inhaled them. I loved that they were not very sweet and it has the fiber boost with the oatmeal.


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This information is based on various historical documents, historian research, news articles, photographs, etc. It is for informational purposes only.
The community of Buena Vista was established around 1847 by Reason B. Hall who settled there in 1847 through a donation land claim. A few of Reason B. Hall's relatives were in the Battle of Buena Vista during the Mexican-American War, hence the reason for choosing this name which is Spanish for beautiful or good view. The area was also known, for a time, as Hall's Landing. Reason B. Hall started the Buena Vista Ferry around the same time.
The first school in Buena Vista was started in a one-room log house in 1859, which served as a church on Sundays. Always an important hops-growing area, during the late 1800's the community had a fairly large population due in large part to a local pottery factory that shipped items throughout the territory using the Willamette River. Much of the pottery used by the pioneers came from the Buena Vista factory. Freeman Smith, his wife, six sons and four daughters came to Oregon at the end of the Civil War. Smith, who had worked at a pottery factory in the east, had heard about the clay banks of the river with supposed good firing qualities. He bought land near the ferry and the family built the kilns and started Smith and Company. Smith sold his company to a son in 1870 and the brothers expanded the business to include flower pots and sewer pipe. In fact, a 15" sewer pipe that runs down Portland's SE Stark Street was made and burned in the Buena Vista kilns. At the height of their business, the factory employed four potters and ten Chinese immigrants for mixing clay.
During this time the town included two doctors, drug store, saloons, hotel, school, churches, and stores. In fact, it was considered as a potential site for the new state capitol. At its height the town had a two-story school, the pottery factory employed several hundred locals, and the town had a busy sawmill. Hops took over as the main industry for the next 50+ years. However, years later the railroad was put in but bypassed Buena Vista. This was the beginning of the town's demise. Hops declined in value and the pottery factory moved to Portland. Salem became the state capital and also drew away some of the population. By the early 1960's most of the buildings and houses were gone leaving only a small market in the general area, and the cemetery.


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CORRECTION: The original version of this article misspelled the name of author Stanley Renshon and misstated the title of his book--he wrote Barack Obama and the Politics of Redemption.
Consider, if you will, the career of a true conservative. Ronald Reagan almost always knew what to say to his base. A former Democrat who grew disaffected from the politics of Hollywood—"the only place in the country where the billionaires are liberals," Bill Maher once cracked—Reagan had the zeal of the convert. He became a movement conservative with a knack for memorizing lines. He had "the music and the lyrics, the whole song sheet," says Tony Dolan, Reagan's former speechwriter, who is backing Newt Gingrich as the closest thing he can find to RR.
Reagan led the conservative movement to a rebirth after Barry Goldwater was trounced in 1964, and he did it by embracing basic truths—fewer taxes, less government, tough defense—on his own, says Martin Anderson, his former top economic aide. "He had worked out the whole philosophy himself going back to the 1960s, even the question of how you attack the Soviet Union without going to war." Even when Reagan was accused of flip-flopping from moderate stances he took as California governor, he still "had the ability to pithily state the doctrine," adds his biographer, Lou Cannon.
Now examine a very different kind of conservative. Mitt Romney's conservatism, the "small c" kind, was more lived than thought out. It was not the consciously adopted theoretical construct that Reagan found. For Romney, growing up in a socially conservative Mormon home in Michigan, conservatism was part of the background, something in the air. Watching the rise of his revered father, George Romney, as a governor and then presidential candidate, Mitt was enticed by politics as a teen, but for years he would quote his dad's advice: "Don't get into politics as your profession.… Get into the world of the real economy. And if someday you're able to make a contribution, do it," according to The Real Romney, Michael Kranish and Scott Helman's new book. George Romney himself took this path, running American Motors and then announcing to his family one day, "You know, I think I'm going to run for governor. Should I run as a Republican or a Democrat?"
As with his father—who walked out of the 1964 GOP convention and refused to endorse Goldwater—the younger Romney's lack of movement credentials vexes the base today. But Mitt's identity problem goes much deeper than George's. Although the son is already much closer to the presidency than his father ever got, the younger Romney's success comes at a time when the GOP electorate has veered right and vowed not to compromise. And because Romney, trying to establish some conservative bona fides, has run an ideological primary campaign to the right of his career as a numbers-crunching businessman and middle-of-the road Massachusetts governor, both moderates and those on the right are uncertain about who he really is or what he stands for. His own campaign has internalized the identity crisis: On CNN this week, Romney's communications director compared his fall campaign strategy to resetting an Etch A Sketch.
Uncertainty is not a ticket to the White House, that much is clear. Yet voters today can't really know whether they're pulling the lever for the pragmatist or the newly minted ideologue. Romney needs to persuade conservatives—some of them, anyway—to win the Republican nomination, and then independents and centrists to win in November. Is that even possible, considering that Romney may now have the worst favorability rating in presidential-election history, according to Newsweek?
Many people say that Mitt Romney is hard to know personally—stiff and removed, in a patrician way. But Romney's awkwardness may also be evidence of internal conflict and self-alienation: He is a man who has been forced to behave in a way foreign to his true self, according to some analysts. "He is twisting himself into a pretzel," says the presidential historian Robert Dallek, who trained as a psychoanalyst. It's no surprise, really, that Romney looks so uncomfortable on the campaign trail, insisting that he is "severely conservative."
His natural confidence (he was a golden boy his whole life) is gone, and he looks like a man responding to signals from voters, rather than leading them in Reagan-like fashion. One recent example: Even after briefly finding the courage to insist he would not "set my hair on fire" and adopt extremist rhetoric, Romney quailed at the idea of criticizing Rush Limbaugh for referring to a Georgetown Law student as a "slut." "Those would not have been the words I would have used," Romney said.
It was not exactly a Sister Souljah moment. But Romney may need such a self-defining moment, or a series of them—when he honestly tells the country what he really believes, even if it offends the Right—if he wants Americans to know whom they're voting for.
After his stints as a Mormon missionary in France and an undergrad at Stanford and Brigham Young, Romney got a Harvard law degree at the urging of his father, by then a Cabinet secretary and a vociferous symbol of the very GOP centrism that the Goldwater/Reagan movement rose up against. But what he mostly wanted was to plunge into the heart of capitalism. Two decades of phenomenally successful data wizardry at Bain Capital followed, turning him into a fiscally conservative pragmatist.
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Martha Stewart
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Thom Filicia may be best known as an interior designer, but he too is a sportsman. "Laird definitely has more sports equipment than I do," he offered with a laugh. "I store all of mine in my boathouse, right on the water. The boathouse is a combination of American Colonial and modern with the interior painted white. The exterior is charcoal gray, and it has glass French doors. I am pretty sporty. I water-ski, I wakeboard, and I paddleboard. And I bike and run around New York City."
Filicia is seen here with Donna Karan and Martha Stewart.
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Donna Karan
The Inquisitive Guest has previously visited Donna Karan's compound in East Hampton's Northwest Woods, which has a serene yoga area, and asked the designer about the setup in her other homes. "I have a yoga studio in every house," said Karan. "Yoga for me is everything. I have to make sure I find the calm in the chaos."
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Bishop Luers will attempt to win its fourth consecutive high school football state championship as it plays Cardinal Ritter in the IHSAA state finals at 7:05 p.m. Friday in Indianapolis.
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In a breakout year for black film, "12 Years a Slave" invited both dialogue and accolade. Yet films like "Fruitvale Station," about the life of a black man today, get passed over. A contemplation on race, Hollywood, and the conversations we aren't having.
A creative illustration elevates Dorothy Day's words on "how to bring about a revolution of the heart" with a t-shirt design.
A Quaker chaplain offers some candid insights on being a minister to trauma. In the midst of chaos and suffering, she writes, deep shame can transform itself into hope.
How do we fulfill the dream that was bequeathed to us? By practicing the joyful art of doing life together across racial categories without fear.
A musician serendipitously gets reacquainted with an old track while listening to physicist Brian Greene talk about our lack of free will.
The daughter of an evangelical pastor finds comfort in the questions of an Orthodox rabbi — and his ability to change his mind on women's issues because of his relationship with his daughter.
Can something positive appear on a popular TV comedy show? An analysis of the "edgy Catholic Sunday School teacher and TV host as a catechist who can teach other catechists much."
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Dance Flick
"Dance Flick" brings together the talents of two generations of the Wayans family, the explosively funny clan who brought us the "Scary Movie" franchise and "White Chicks," as well as the groundbreaking TV series "In Living Color." In "Dance Flick," a young street dancer, Thomas Uncles, from the wrong side of the tracks and a beautiful young woman, Megan White, are brought together by their passion for dancing and put to the test in the mother of all dance battles. "Dance Flick" sends up the dance movie genre, including such recent hits as "Step Up" and "You Got Served," as well as the classic "Flashdance."
Cast: Marlon Wayans, Shawn Wayans, Affion Crockett, Essence Atkins, Shoshana Bush, Craig Wayans, Damon Wayans, Jr.
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I have a db and want to know if it contains any spatial tables. Is there a table in SQL Server that holds spatial metadata i.e. a list of all the spatial tables in the current db? Oracle has the user_sdo_geom_metadata, Postgis the geometry_columns. What about SQL Server? The only spatial metadata I found was the sys.spatial_references.
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You can always resort to querying the INFORMATION_SCHEMA.TABLES and COLUMNS dictionaries to find out if there are tables that are spatially enabled.
Further to unicoletti's answer, here is a SQL query that will list spatial tables and their geometry columns:
If you're looking for geography columns change the geometry to geography in the query.
Also bear in mind a single table can have several spatial columns so it will appear twice in the query.


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Gone With the Wind
Scarlett O'Hara (Vivien Leigh) in front of Tara, the genteel plantation house that, in 1939, became a screen legend in and of itself. Despite its weathered appearance, the house was an elaborate façade, built on a studio lot.
Photography: Selznick/MGM/The Kobal Collection, courtesy Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, mptv.net, Selznick Properties LTD.


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- Mykle Ykle
- Salem, OR
- United States
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Should employers not hire you or fire you when they discover your bad credit history?
It has been a sad situation for me and many others in the USA (I don't know if this is an issue worldwide) I have great qualifications and work experience. Yet, in the majority of states you are obligated to submit to a criminal background check which is completely understandable, but that also includes a credit check. I understand that a credit check should be mandatory for executive, banking, casinos and industries directly involving money. Sadly, those of us with bad credit are being discriminated for regular jobs i.e. retail, call centers, customer service.
The government, banks and debt collectors wants their money, as they should. Yet, if you have bad credit, it's a lot harder to find a job making it impossible to get out of debt, let alone be a productive citizen.
This is an issue that is not widely discussed, I've searched online and there are some bills being proposed to end this discrimination but I don't think is really going anywhere.
I would like to have the TED community input in the most civil way possible.
Feb 12 2013: I cant no matter how many time I read this in the media, come to the conclusion that is amazing short sighted, ignorant, prejudiced, and down right plain stupid.
No one ever seems to equate this, with the same country, that has the highest prison population in the world. Unfortunately, the country seems to be putting itself in a "death spiral" of it's own making.
There was a time, which was long ago, that said if you do the crime, and do the time, you're released as a free man.
Now it seems as it's a life sentence. For people who truly realize what that means, a life of crime - is the only option. Then people wonder why they don't feel safe on the streets, go figure.Feb 12 2013: I don't believe established bad credit should allow employers to dictate if a person should be hired or fire. Everyone at some point in their life will find themselves in a bind and in some kind of debt. Given the times we are living in it is very likely some individuals end up with bad credit. If a person has the credentials to perform the job why should they be penalized for having bad credit. Some say bad credit reflects poor business conduct when one is to meet deadlines or handle work related issues, I beg the differ. Many individuals are quite the opposite. I too was not able to attain a job because of my bad credit history. It was debt I created when I was younger and had a tough time paying off. I have raked in the top 5% at my job for performance 4 years in a row. Why should a bad credit rap sheet dictate an employer to hire me?
Feb 12 2013: Amazing testimony. Thank You!Mar 3 2013: i agree youFeb 6 2013: I have hired people with good credit, bad credit and no credit histories with no problem. I don't think it matters at all.
I have had more problems with managers who steal equipment for their families even though they make $100,000+ and don't need the charity, than I ever had with an employee who was having credit problems.
For them, I would go out of my way to provide over time (if possible) to help them out of their situation.
A more important criteria for hiring is personality and how that person "fits" in to the existing culture you have created at your company.
Feb 6 2013: Thanks a lot GordonMar 3 2013: I don't think employers have a right to look into our credit histories. Just like someone stated earlier, good or bad credit may or may not determine whether you're responsible as a person, but it can't determine whether you're moral and will make ethical decisions while on or off the clock and also it doesn't determine if you're even competent and able to do the job well.
Mar 3 2013: Even further, a credit check can only show that you were irresponsible with money in the past. It's really sad that companies are okay passing over potentially good employees because of credit issues.
Something in favor of companies doing this: Apparently almost a third of people are lying about schooling, employment, and other things on their resumes.
Something against companies doing this: Between Google Scholar and the two big psych/social science databases I have access to, I couldn't find any academic articles providing any kind of evidence that credit score matters correlates with bad employee behavior of any kind.
Mar 3 2013: Just wondering what you might consider lying on your resume?You mentioned almost a third lie about schooling,employment, and other things, which I don't agree with, but is it a lie if information is simply left out?I know on our resumes we put past work experiences but what if someone wanted to expand on only a few work experiences opposed to all of their past work experiences? Also resumes are a big place for people to lie anyways,or at least in a sense,flaunting skills or abilities that they might not actually be very "excellent" at.
Mar 3 2013: I think omitting information on a resumé is not lying if you are looking to customize a resumé for a specific employer. Embellishing however is something that should not be done, but it's too subjective.Mar 4 2013: Well last resume like thing that I made I actually left out all specific details of my past work experience and made up a CV type thing instead because I felt my previous resume material was pretty irrelevant. As for the article I bumped into that comment from, I don't know if "lying" included leaving out irrelevant information. Obviously I put my own interpretation on what they meant since I quoted it here.
But yeah... I tend to think more along the lines of embellishing or putting down experience/schooling that did not happen at all.Mar 3 2013: I'm ok with getting a background check on my previous work experience and education, but not ok with them basing their hiring decision on credit score.
Mar 4 2013: Well hopefully someone will do some research to help us figure out if there even a basis for this kind of thing then.
Regina Claud
Feb 23 2013: Using credit as a hiring criteria is not good for our economy and future.
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As an example, many people, during our recent recession/depression lost their jobs due to no fault of their own, i.e. massive layoffs. Even those who were careful with their money, had to use up their savings to survive, and eventually got behind on mortgages etc. Now, with bad credit, they become permanently unemployable. The use of credit as a hiring criteria is creating a permanent under-class of people who will not be able to get out of poverty unless they create their own businesses.
Also, good credit is NOT an indicator as to whether a person is moral, honest, or trustworthy. Ben Franklin filed for bankruptcy, yet he would not be able to get a job in this era. I bet Bernie Madoff had PERFECT credit, with all the billions he racked in. That perfect credit did not prevent him from committing financial fraud. Nor the ones running the big banks that government recently fined for their mortgage fraud activities.
Good credit does not mean someone is competent. That person may cause more problems on the job, and cause losses, than someone with bad credit but good experience and knowledge of the business.
Good credit does not mean they will NEVER have bad credit. It just means they have not YET run into financial problems. No one knows what difficulties the future may hold. At one point Donald Trump told his daughter that a homeless man they passed on the street had more money at that moment than he (Trump) had (see video "Born Rich" by Jamie Johnson).
Credit rating is a brief snap shot within one's life. You can go from a 620 score to 700 within 3 months with the right strategies. Something so variable and and erroneous (many reports contain errors) should not be used to affect something as long-lasting as one's career and earning potential, the contributions they can make within the business community and society.Feb 6 2013: I think we have a slightly paranoid society, driven by the means of money and what money means to us, I believe that because of how the stock market reacts to negative news. Credit reports became a substitution of trusting someone, just like message boards substituted face to face conversations. In the here and now, reality is, they substitute for getting to know someone better, learning to trust, viewing the credit report before seeing the experience that person may have. Not everyone is as bad as their credit score, which says nothing about what kind of person you are, but the employer who hires that way, should be judged by their hiring practices as a company you might think twice about working for? Afterall, a job is not only about money but about investing the most precious thing in your life, your time.Feb 6 2013: Employers should have the right to hire or fire employees based on any criteria they want. It won't always seem fair to the employee, but basically being forced to associate with (hire) employees that are not what the employer would prefer is unfair too. Also, if you are working for a company where you aren't wanted, whether the reason makes sense or not, you aren't likely to get promotions or raises as fast if at all. It is better to go where you will be appreciated.
Feb 6 2013: corollary to that: if any state or the federal government interferes with that process, it is immoral. and in some cases, like the case at hand, can be devastating to certain individuals.Feb 6 2013: Hello Robert, I understand employers can hire of fire based on any criteria. Of course you should work where your wanted, but again, with this credit check limitation (which honestly affects mostly the hiring end) it's hard even getting to work where you're wanted. I went through a 3 interview process successfully, passed the drug tests, etc. Ultimately was denied the position due to my credit check and it wasn't even a position requiring good credit which is something mentioned on the requirements. It just seems unfair, your credit history should definitely be part of the EOO criteria for some.
Leo Taylor
Feb 6 2013: It is a changing world and many hiring practices are being called in to question. There is actually a similar question on TED right now regarding College degrees where people are being discriminated against regarding not having one. Sure in some situations you want it and in some it is ridiculous that an employer requires it. As with your background check. Perhaps for banking industries and casinos it is good to have but in others situations it is ridiculous.
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The last job I hired for had over 100 applicants in 24 hours on a Craigslist post and this was for an entry job. I can certainly see where employers need to add filters to the applicants to whittle them down. So a credit check might help narrow the candidates.
BUT, to add a bit of insight from an employers point of view. (not that this is always the case, but it is a consideration)
1. Bad credit means possible security or embezzlement risk. People get odd when they must have money
2. Only people I have hired to ask for payday advances.
2.a when refused they get bitter and add to a bad work environment
3. If there is a court judgement against them then there is a lot of extra paperwork and legal issues for pay roll deduction.
4. If the payroll deductions are not done properly then WE the employers are fined.
5. Tend to be more resentful over pay.
Okay, I realize that not all of the above are true and it is a generality... but as an employer I have learned over the years to watch this and take it on a case by case basis. The payroll deductions are a pain... dealing with governmental agencies to do the paperwork is a pain... etc. With the amount of applicants in today's market I can understand why employers use it as a filter and move on to another candidate.
Not saying it is right but without better filter abilities it is what is available.
kelly crespo
Mar 6 2013: I agree with ZX style, credit history is obviously for money not being paid. As an employee so are performing a service and getting paid for it.
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Maybe an issue would be as a risk management agent, or other jobs that require to handle money and investing it.
(this would be a reason why I would think it would be negative towards a job) A bad credit report may show that the individual may not be organized and cannot handle responsibility for getting themselves in debts that they can't afford, however that is not the case with everyone. Therefore I would think that there would be better ways of qualifying an future employee.Mar 3 2013: They should hire you. Everyone makes mistakes (by the way, there is no "s" on "want"). How can anyone ever correct themselves if not given the chance.
By the by, that's what Christianity is all about - giving people another chance.Mar 3 2013: This is a difficult, unfortunate dilemma for millions of individuals in developed countries around the world -- the Great Recession and its devastating impacts on the financial health and credit standings of so many.
The vast majority of individuals who've fallen victim to this financial shock, or VIRUS if you will, who theretofore had been proud, financially healthy, responsible citizens -- suddenly found themselves unemployed, without sustainable income, and in many cases, over time, with little or nothing to show for their life's efforts.
It is clearly an incredibly demoralizing experience -- inability to honor financial obligations; loss of independence; moving back in with parents, family members or friends, or vice versa; and all the resulting ripple effects -- which can carry equally destructive consequences resulting from friction, social stigma, bias, and even discrimination.
For example, the author's statement -- "The government, banks and debt collectors wants their money, as they should. Yet, if you have bad credit, it's a lot harder to find a job making it impossible to get out of debt, let alone be a productive citizen. " -- which correctly postulates that a vicious circle can be created when your credit is damaged, regardless of cause.
The result is a financial virus that can burn through a person's life like wildfire in a drought. It feeds on and devours all available fuel -- in this circumstance, a person's financial assets -- until there is nothing left to consume.
The current root cause of financial illness for millions of people was not caused by dereliction or irresponsible behavior. It is a problem that I suspect is still growing. The challenge lies in finding a cure through comprehensive solutions.
I haven't read all the responses to this post but believe it to be a social issue worthy of vigorous deliberation. I'm curious to learn from the author, if he has gained any valuable insight or utility from responses received...?Feb 28 2013: To answer you question I would say no. I understand the reason's for doing so (it may reveal that your a responsible or irresponsible person) but not all bad credit can be attributed to one's actions. Sometimes circumstances happen that are out of the control of the individual. Perhaps they got laid off and is unable to pay their bills..
Perhaps it play's a factor in the decision making but they should also try to understand your situation and give you the chance to prove yourself to them....Of course this is all in the ideal sense.Feb 28 2013: Actually, I believe that because of your bad credit history they have to hire you and keep you, nothing else!
I imagine myself as a employer. I have a CV of a really qualified person for position that I have vacant. With big experience. With recommendation letters. And with bad credit history. I will hire him with no doubts because he is not only qualified and experienced, but also he will work hard and value his job because he has to pay his depts!
Mar 1 2013: Exactly how I would feel if I was hired.
Alex Alcala
Feb 26 2013: Credit rating was created ina very similar way as halliburton..it seems to be the right cool financially nice thing to do but in the end people will be hurt since the credit report is not a proven fact of trustwothiness, capacity or even morality of an individual, the reality is that credit is a way of pushing away and discerning what a financial mathematical curve decides it is correct based on a bunch of assumptions, should an employer check and base a decision to hire someone based on this FICO (fallacious) score?, the reality is that it has not been proven that a person with bad credit will perform poorly at a job, actually most of the credit problems a person may face in their life is not lack of financial or moral lackness but external factors that are beyond his/her control, you can name a few: get a ticket and you surely will pay that ticket before the creidt card, get sick and you will buy the medicines before paying that christmas gift, get in a car accident, lose your wallet, gosh hundreds of happenings and collectors will be on top of your head making your life miserable and unless you are sadomasochist I dont think anyone wants to be chaed around and risk the paycheck for that, I know of several hundreds of thousands of people that lost their credit due to the last recession, are they less capable of performing their jobs because of that? I dont think so and whoever employee thinks that is living inside a fallacy bubble where the reaility doesnt enter regardless of any argument to the contrary, applicants that are requested to submit a credit report should ask for the financial reports of the companies that want to hire them (lets see if they like that).Feb 19 2013: Perhaps it's time for the person who is looking for work to become a little more careful about 'who' they should be working for. There are many employers with a poor credit history and some who have a criminal background. Perhaps some employers should be required to disclose 'their' history.
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Feb 16 2013: Excellent Question Mykle,
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Our plan, collectively as a people, is to heal the economy. And we need a whole new perspective and a completely new approach. The era of consumerism is over and the results of that way of thinking are clear in all aspects of life: Good they are not. That mentality (the more is better mentality) guided people into debt, cultivated greed, diminished humanity, damaged lives and the economy at the same time, delivered us to the wrong destination. We know which way not to go. Wise companies will figure this out soon. They will know not to miss out on the opportunity to have a great new employee (such as you) on their team because he / she was hit by the same financial crisis and recession that hit the whole nation.
The great news: we are so fortunate to live at this historic time of new starts.
Ramon Castro
Feb 11 2013: I would have to say that employers should hire employees by their work ethic, and sources from previous jobs, and work sources. Good employees who work hard may have bad credit but it could be if their identity was stolen and is still trying to fix it.Feb 8 2013: You've been in bad credit? You've had low marks at school? You've been fired in the past? "It's your fault." is the thought that strikes the mind of any person, since in general it is known that it can be done better.
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Why should prejudices of bad credit (that you're unable to properly manage a situation, to assess risks/expenses that are needed from those that are excess, to understand a bad choices for unfavourable circumstances in time, etc.) be wrong at all? Any reason that may show you as a "looser" even if through preconceptions, has to be demonstrated to be biased or wrong.
If you feel uncomfortable and you know the other will check it, step in the topic first. And explain how you learned to do better in the "recent" past. Show that your satisfaction with life and capabilities have improved and not diminished, maintain a positive mindset when describing it.
Certainly, bad credit as bad marks (or good ones) means nothing, but if you don't give people the big picture, if you don't let them know you and your skills, the only information they will have on you is the one on the peace of sheet.. ..and I challenge you to state that it is a positive curriculum aspect to have bad credit. Probably it's "not bad" at most.
Mykle Ykle
Feb 8 2013: Wow, someone feels bothered! I didn't post the debate to describe my situation exclusively, but a wider spectrum of a lot of people who are in this situation. It's a TED conversation, not therapy.
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Beth Gooden
Feb 16 2013: I don't think Robert was bothered, but just saying that instead of you allowing the company that you are applying to just assuming that you are a "loser" because of your bad credit, but to go ahead and tell them your situation before they pull your credit history. Let them know what your circumstances WERE and what they are now so they have the big picture and not just assume the worst.
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I, too, have bad credit and am currently in college working on my bachelor's degree and am worried about the same thing when I go for a job. Others have given me the same advice that Robert is giving you (in maybe a different way). Be proactive and let employers know you are a responsible person that can do the job they are hiring you to do and ask them not to judge you by your credit report. In all likelihood, the person doing to hiring has falled on hard times themselves.
Good luck, Mykle!
Gary Malloy
Feb 8 2013: Mykle, for what it is worth this is my opinion. I was the owner/operator of several smaller companies (around 250 people each) and in this economy employers can be much pickier about who they hire. Think about taking a job (not your ideal job) that will allow you to build some credit. Not only the financial kind but also credit in the work industry that will show people you have changed and corrected the past. Just a thought. Hope it works for you.
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greg dahlen
Feb 7 2013: I would think a bad credit history is a black mark on your character.
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Mykle Ykle
Feb 7 2013: This is a immensely generalized way of thinking...again, it's not what you think of a person due to their credit, it's whether they are a good potential employee or not. Bad credit does not automatically black-mark a person's character, you don't even know the circumstances (*not reasons) they got in debt in the first place.
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Jazz Sutto
Feb 8 2013: In the interview you should broach the subject before they find out. Then tell them the circumstances if it isn't due to any personal deficiencies.Feb 8 2013: Well, Mykle, I've never been in a position to hire anyone, I've always been an employee. From what I know, in most cases people got into debt for "unhealthy" reasons. However, I love your point, that one still might inquire about the circumstances under which one gets into debt. But also from what I know, if you find yourself unable to pay your debts and it's through no fault of your own, there are mechanisms to deal with that where you end up with a clean record. So if someone has a bad credit history, I'd be pretty suspicious. Of course when you hire someone you weigh a million factors.
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Leo Taylor
Feb 6 2013: Mykle,
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To be honest I think I would agree more with laws of this nature if we, as employers, were given more leeway to try employees for 30,60, 90 days etc without penalty. However, in our State (Washington) and elsewhere in the U.S. If we hire someone even for a day and let them go, that individual can file for unemployment against our company. Unless we can prove they lied, broke the law, or were purposely attempting to hurt the company or its employees then we get hit with the unemployment penalties. It is such a headache that most employers roll their eyes, bite their tongues and move on.
It is sad to see people take advantage of the system this way but it makes us have to be much more careful in hiring.
Feb 6 2013: ¨I think I would agree more with laws of this nature if we, as employers, were given more leeway to try employees for 30,60, 90 days etc without penalty.¨
I think people in my position would be more than ok with this.
Barry Palmer
Feb 6 2013: I think your idea of hiring someone for a trial period is a great idea. In the USA, this might be a good time, due to our current high unemployment, to enact this reform into law.Feb 6 2013: .
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During a certain period of time in my city a few years back there was a severe limit in administration staff.
It started getting to the point where office companies were vastly understaffed and despite there being dozens of agencies and advertisements for the postions, no one was getting hired.
The reason? Because the employment model was so strict, inflexible and illogical, that it was near impossible to get hired.
-You were expected to have 2 years past experience in an office, so no new people in the workforce could join.
-You unknowingly had to have your c.v and appearence to look in a certain way, so most would fail instantly.
-You had to have a good credit rating, specific qualifications and a live within a certain distance of the company.
Eventually the whole thing blew up and the agencies and offices got rid of almost all of the requirements over time because its just plain stupid making all such restrictions to get the 'right staff', when the job merely entails tedious mediocre work.
Most companies aren't billion dollar global corporations or the height of industry, most are just tiny average companies with little effect to their surroundings and with average pay, so the god complex of expecting flawless staff bites them in the backside eventually for obvious reasons.
If you're going to be a petty as firing someone because they had money issues a few years back, changed their hairstyle or moved a few streets away then feel free to do so, but I sincerely hope your company suffers financial losses as a result, which it usually does, thankfully.
Feb 6 2013: Thanks for your input XavierFeb 6 2013: I think at the crux is demand and supply. It was news to know that call centers are employing prison labor. So if some one wants to do it, it can be done. If a system is put in place and an undertaking given that part of the earning will be reimbursed to the Creditor directly by the employer I think that should work. Just thinking.
Criminality is different, however, in case of running up debt, the reasons may be on account of wrong decision taken in the past etc:
So it all depends upon the employer, but if some statutory Govt: Agency is formed to access and advice on case to case basis with proper safeguards in place, I think it would serve the interest of both the job seeker and the creditor.
Feb 6 2013: ¨If a system is put in place and an undertaking given that part of the earning will be reimbursed to the Creditor directly by the employer I think that should work.¨
Exactly, just as many of us will be okay if part of our wages are garnished.
So it all depends upon the employer, but if some statutory Govt: Agency is formed to access and advice on case to case basis with proper safeguards in place, I think it would serve the interest of both the job seeker and the creditor.
You said it Asgar!!!
Thanks for your input.
Feb 7 2013: Thanks Mykle for the appreciation. I would advocate that in cases of bad debt recovery, the interest component should be done away with. I hail from Dawoodi Bohra community and the Qardan Hasana concept ( that is good interest free loans) has been proving very beneficial.
If the creditor if assured of regular payment of the Bad Debt agrees to forgo the interest component, it will make things very easy. I know it is a very difficult idea to accept in the present world, where the economy is interest driven. Just sharing the silver lining though.
In my small little world, I have helped a few to take control of their lives my applying the concept of Qardan Hasanah ( interest free loan) Hope in near future this concept becomes a driving force for all round development of different strata of the society.
Gail .
Feb 6 2013: I understand why many jobs require credit checks. For some jobs, you don't qualify for a bond, which is the employer's protection. In retail, the temptation to steal might be too great - and the employer has no way of knowing exactly who you are. In call centers, it depends on the industry and the access that an employee has to information.
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Seeing as the Bank of America uses prison-labor for its call centers, one would think that there are some call centers and customer service jobs that don't require good credit. But at a time when there are MANY looking for a FEW jobs, it's just one more way to clear through the piles of applications.
The good thing is that time heals all wounds - even wounds to your credit rating. But that's not what you want to hear right now. What you NEED to hear is that it is not government's job to protect you (with bad credit) from those with good credit. The reverse is true, regardless of how you got into your mess. It's not discrimination. When someone complains about what you are complaining about, it can come across as you thinking that the world owes you something - which is NOT what ANY employer EVER wants to hear.
In don't know your situation, but bankruptcy allows you to get through the process more quickly in some cases. YOu may have to rethink your job path until the mess is cleared up.
Feb 6 2013: Thank you for your reply. However I do not think the world owes me anything. Most of the people that are in my situation are not looking for the government to fix our ¨mess¨ as you put it. I would think just helping by the way of making it illegal to discriminate against hiring individuals with bad credit would be a place to start. It's helping us to helping ourselves in our situation, we are not asking for a magical solution to fix our ¨mess¨.
I'm my description I was very clear in explaining that I think the government, banks and debt collectors are in their complete right getting back their money. We just need a job to do so, and with this discrimination it's just a stupid vicious circle. Also, not everyone in this situation can afford a bankruptcy and certainly applying for a bankruptcy will not guarantee you will get it. If it were so simple, this wouldn't be an issue. At the end, having a bad credit and getting discriminated for a job due to this, will create more government dependency (which you assume it's what we want) and will add to the massive deficit of the country.
Gail .
Feb 6 2013: I do not assume as you suggest. I believe that money itself is the greatest problem that our global culture faces. I believe that money is the cause of almost ALL of our problems. I also believe that because our fiscal paradigm is unsustainable, it will all come crashing down - probably in my lifetime. Then equality can again reign and the word "job" will take on different meaning.
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I wasn't trying to tell you how I felt about your situation. I was telling you how many employers MAY look at your situation, and how the word "discrimination" contains undercurrents of thought that you do not intend to convey.
Feb 6 2013: Thanks TED Lover, I responded somewhat defensive. It's just an issue I'm passionate about. Thank you for responding from a different point of view.
Ben Jarvis
Feb 6 2013: it's a great question and i don't think there's an easy answer. if it were me i'd probably take the information as a sign that this person *may* have trouble with planning for the future, but i'm not so stupid as to think that's the only possibility so if everything else for that candidate looked good i'm give them a try. i doubt that most bosses feel that way though, having experienced enough of them myself it seems too many expect nothing but dream employees (even when they're not offering anything like a dream salary!). perhaps there's nothing to be done but banning credit checks in unrelated industries?Feb 6 2013: Mykle, I can see your dilemma .. and the point in corporations wanting that input. As you stated there are certain jobs where this is a backbreaker ... you left out security risks as this could become a leverage point. However, In other jobs I think it should be a point of discussion ... If you went bankrupt while starting your own firm is certainly different than being a alcholic and gamboler who drank and gamboled away the family fortune. Owing for college loans is another exception as is medical bills.
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So I agree there are certain jobs that this is and should be a serious concern and others that it should be of lessor concern .. especially under the right circumstances.
I disagree that the federal or state government should dictate the hiring or firing terms of any institution outside of the said government.
I wish you well. Bob.Mar 6 2013: they should listen to the statistics of how those people react and i believe that's what they doMar 4 2013: NoMar 3 2013: Lol,it is up to the employers.Being an employee I think working hard for the company It is what I can do.
Comment deletedMar 1 2013: What many do not understand especially during the previous 7 years or so, the public in the US was and is a victim of one of the largest frauds perpetrated on a society. Everyone in the country had their credit attacked by the banks at the behest of the treasury, the fed, the ratings agencies, the FDIC and wallstreet as part of the plan to crash the real estate market in the country,coast to coast so that wallstreet could buy bonds at pennies on the dollar that were insured 100% by Fannie& private co's. It was a sinister plan and people are still being victimized by the banks who after being caught fraudulently foreclosing on homes(Robo-signings), still do so. To make matters worse every states attorney in the country instead of prosecuting them, settled to put it mildly and kept a majority of the paltry money paid for themselves. What about the homeowners who lost their homes? Maybe some will get $1,200.00! Regarding the credit fraud, ask everyone you know who had one, who had good credit, wasn't their interest rates doubled or tripled..then arbitrarily their credit limit cut? What this did was kill your credit rating, within 30-days, from excellent credit to poor credit and with no recourse.Nothing you could do about it. This despite having stellar payment histories going back 5-10-20 years. Why was this done? To remove "potential" investors from the housing market and therefore start a freefall of housing values. It was a scorched earth approach to an end. They could not, although they tried and did, only cancel all the investor loans available, (it created a pushback by those investors and the mortgage brokers). Canceled investor loans although they were required to have the highest credit and cash reserves. By killing the credit of all US consumers they effectively removed any 'potential' real estate investors from the market who might have turned to real estate to provide another source of income as a hedge against job loss..AND NOTHING WAS DONE ABOUT IFeb 27 2013: Employers should be able to fire you (or not hire you ) for ANY reason!
Feb 27 2013: Okay, pat yourself on the back for that one.Feb 22 2013: Credit history (or lack thereof) directly correlates with successful time, financial, and resource management experience. There are exceptions, but in general, this is true.
If you accept the above, then clearly it makes sense to take credit history into consideration when hiring.
Obviously, not everyone will accept the above as true (although it is proven).
It is the employer who is investing time, money and resources in other persons. The employer is taking ALL of the risk... The employer owes nothing to the applicant, but owes a great deal to employees... Prior to making the investment (making an applicant an employee) the Employer ought to be able to make these judgments with all available resources.
Feb 23 2013: like you said, not everyone will accept the above, but you also cannot assume that it's a 100% proven. It also has to be taken into consideration personal life situations that for some reason were not manageable. Many elements have to be considered for these "proven" studies to apply. It will most likely apply to people with lesser opportunities being how they were raised, their environment, family support for success, education etc, which will relate more to bad or poor time, financial and resource management. I also believe the employer has to consider the best employee possible, but we fall back on the fact that if this was the only or most important criteria, people with bad credit should not even bother to apply. There has to be a common ground.
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Feb 23 2013: Cite an academic, or other trustworthy, source for the statement, "it is proven." Without such citation, your statement is mere speculation on your part and your opinion, which adds no substantive relevance to the topic.Feb 8 2013: As an international student in Canada i too have though about the exact same question as you did, another question on a similar moral was that if you find mentally depressed people why would N Americans avoid and ignore the person as much as they can, especially when they know that depressed people need to be cheered up with more friends not more loneliness....
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Why is it also true that the worst performing races are never given more special attention so that they can improve and compete with the rest of us.
Why is also true that when one shows true gangster behavior, society chooses not to react and continues allowing it to continue instead of correcting the person and changing the culture of the entire neighborhood....
The US govt has over the past 50 yrs given up to $2tn to the African continent, yet none of the nations have made any major progress, but yet the US govt keeps doing the same thing, at the same time the same govt is able to send men to the moon successfully by not repeating the same mistakes again and again but with aiding poor nations, the US keeps making huge mistakes. Its also very funny that the US has the top businesses in the world and they make good decisions, but when it comes to aid the same mistakes are not being fixed by the top businessmen.
Mykle, there are too many questions that do not have the sound logic we require, our govt is a representation of what we have allowed it to be, because it has all gone out of hand a thorough change is necessary, if the change does not come from within then the people shall revolt seeking freedom from mediocre legislation such as the ones I have mentioned.
ooh I also forgot to add the gun laws.... sorry my comment does not answer any questions, but is presented so that you are provoked in to thinking what is wrong with us and society around us. We are ever becoming less human and more of mere consumers who are shielded away from the govts corrupt practices.
Feb 8 2013: Wow...Kunal, your comment is greatly appreciated. Very sound and logical I might add.The analogy with depression is a excellent metaphor and base for comparison.Feb 6 2013: I can empathize with your situation, but I do not see this as being on the same level as other Equal Employment Opportunity criteria.
I think credit checks became routine when unemployment went up and employers started getting double and triple the usual number of applicants. If you are facing forty applications and can dismiss twenty based on a credit check, you can cut your work in half, and perhaps fill a much needed position a day or two earlier.
This may seem unfair to people like yourself, but outlawing this practice would be unfair to employers. This country is suppose to be the land of the free and we are gradually losing our freedoms to regulation.
Feb 7 2013: If this were the norm, then all of us with bad credit would have to live with the fact of never being employed, having a really hard time getting employed, like I am.
Feb 8 2013: Try flipping this around. If the government can tell employers that they must hire people who have a bad credit rating, then the government also has the power to tell employers that they cannot hire people with a bad credit rating.
I think the government should not have this power.
Feb 8 2013: I don't have to flip it around because I'm only saying that they should not discriminate if a job applicant had bad credit. Again, with your reasoning, all people with bad credit shouldn't even bother to apply for a job.Feb 9 2013: No need to repeat yourself. Fortunately there are people like Gordon Barker who are fee to hire you because the government does not have the power to tell them what to do regarding every detail of hiring and firing employees. So all people with bad credit should continue to apply for jobs, and seek out employers like Mr. Barker.
Good luck.Feb 6 2013: Thanks a lot GordonFeb 6 2013: hmm. Just realized I did not actually answer your question.
No, I do not think it should be illegal to do credit checks. We are already bound by so many laws that it makes hiring difficult. Today we can verify work history but little else. It used to be that we could get all kinds of information regarding employees but lawsuits have forced companies to keep their mouths shut. Up until recently we could ask if an employee worked for another company and if they were re-hirable. AND that was it. If the former employer said "No, they are not re-hireable" Then that was the end of the conversation. Nothing more could be learned as employers kept their mouths shut for fear of being sued.
This last 12 months even that is being restricted to "They worked here and that is all I can tell you"
Lawsuits by former employees have scared companies into divulging very little information and in many places unless the employee broke the law AND was prosecuted AND found guilty the employer can legally say nothing about it. Many times it is not worth the court fees to do that so the employee is sent on the way.
Credit checks, while they may come to pass, will be one more thing that ties our hands.
Feb 6 2013: Thank you for your input, I don't mean illegal to run a credit check, but illegal to not hire you exclusively due to your bad credit.
Feb 6 2013: ahh. Makes sense and certainly do able. Although I would certainly disagree with a law that made it illegal to discriminate due to bad credit. Just a personal choice. If I had two equally qualified applicants and one with bad credit and one without, I know the one without the credit problems poses less risk.
However, these laws usually have very little teeth and/or are hard to enforce. Discrimination happens all the time and if such a law were passed and an employer still wanted to discriminate they would just not tell you why they did not hire you, or let you know that they went with a different person for whatever reason. Sad to say, but then the burden of evidence would be on the person not hired to prove they were discriminated against.
Basically they just skirt the law with polite talk.Feb 6 2013: Should one be hired for a bad credit record? - Yes
Should one be hired for a criminal background? - Yes, but it depends where and for what.
Having a bad credit record shouldn't be of any interest to employers. because your work for a pay-check. one works from 9 to 5, Mon to Fri, one got paid, and that all... one has all the rights to do with that money during the weekends.
you can spend that money on casino or on anything.
but if you keep doing well at work, I don't see any problem.
for the criminal background, it depends on what one has done and where one want to work.
say you were a good programmer and something went wrong and you did something that made you to regret, this may affect on your professional life in that field, but you sill can do anything else. (ex: shelving books in a store or in library)
but if your criminal record is on stealing, that will be hard, yet you should sill have all the rights get a job, which will allow you to make it right.
sadly enough today's employers seek for qualifications instead of motivation. your qualities do the job right, but your motivation does the right job.
through my experience I learnt one thing: If no one is going to give you a job, create one for yourself (and the others).
Feb 6 2013: Thanks a lot for your opinion Edwin. I agree with you completely.Feb 6 2013: Exactly, banning credit checks exclusively would be the best option. I understand the criminal background check.
Feb 26 2013: i agree however i'm interested in your logic. sure people can find themselves in a financial bind which leaves them with bad credit through an impossible situation, then similarly we should ban criminal background checks because those who've found themselves on the wrong side of the law should also deserve a second chance to make good and build a proper life, right?Feb 6 2013: generally not
Feb 6 2013: Thanks George, however over 50% of employers today include a credit check along with their background check. If you refuse you will not be considered for employment and if you have bad credit they let you know this was the reason you were not selected.
The % of companies doing this have gone down compared to 2010 when it was over 60%, but that is still a high % and it is certainly discriminatory. A lot of people with bad credit want to be responsible and pay back their debt. Something should be done.


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My new Super Hero Greeting Card design....
This is my newest greeting card design. I created it using a Super Hero that I first made up when I was 9 or 10 years old! Back then I called him Lightning Volt. For my updated / re-boot of the character, I first designed so many years ago, I changed his look and his name to Lightning Bolt! I plan to design a whole line of cards for boys around this guy for my online greeting card store, The Village Greetings.....
Here's the original blue line sketch along with the black line inking I did in Illustrator CS5. I finished off the color image above in Photoshop CS5.....
Here's a look at the way I drew him way back when I was 9 or 10 years old. It's fun to look back on the way we drew things as young children!.....
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Good stuff John! About the time you were drawing Lightning Bolt as a kid I was at Hallmark developing a super hero character for them that could've been his brother! Very ironic. This is a good idea. You can develop a character property through greetings cards.
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Just wanted to share some good news......I posted more info on my blog but, long story short, I'm going to be illustrating an independently published comic book! Please check my blog from time to time because I will be posting some of the work in progress on my blog and also here in the gallery when the publisher gives me the ok to show some of the work! I'm very excited about this project.....and hope it leads to more work with the character! Here is a link to my blog post about it.......
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Wish me luck!......I've never done a project this big before!
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Congratulations John! You'll do a great job. It's your time for a project like this. Good luck!
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