text: Front Back View larger Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Portable navigator with voice-activated navigation plus free lifetime map and traffic updates Item #: 1502597LMT 47 Reviews This item is no longer available. Original Price: $199.99 Shop all Portable GPS Navigation Need help? 1.888.955.6000 Email Chat Ask an expert advisor No pressure, no commission — just lots of good advice from our highly trained staff. Overview Reviews Details Accessories Articles & Videos by Dominic Devito Voice-activated navigation and Bluetooth® means safer driving Garmin's nüvi 2597LMT portable navigator gives you the confidence to travel to and within unfamiliar locales, with spot-on guidance that won't waste your time or gas. And even if you're just using it to run errands or commute to work, you'll still find its ability to find shorter routes tremendously beneficial. If you're safety conscious, the nüvi 2597LMT features voice-activated navigation that recognizes your speech, so you can keep your hands on the wheel. And Bluetooth connectivity not only lets you enjoy hands-free calling with your compatible phone, but you can also wirelessly connect to Garmin's free app for Android™ phones to get valuable real-time info the navigator can't provide. Hands-free control Voice-activated navigation is quite simple: with one spoken command, you can "wake up" the navigator to respond to your voice. You can then search through menus on the 5" screen, then input addresses and destinations without touching the screen. The Garmin will respond to your words intelligently. Built-in Bluetooth lets you sync your compatible phone to the navigator for hands-free conversations you carry through the nüvi's integrated microphone and speaker. Android phone users can download Garmin's free Smartphone Link app to their device and connect to the nüvi 2597LMT. When paired, the navigator can use your phone's existing data plan to share information such as saved and recently found locations, where you parked, and your current destination. You can then use your phone to give you step-by-step directions back to your car in a large parking lot, for example, or import destinations to your navigator from your phone. You can also launch Garmin Live Services from the app, which give you local weather reports, live traffic updates, real-time photos from traffic cameras, area gas prices, and nearby parking help. Some Garmin Live Services require a subscription. Data charges may apply for using Smartphone Link — you'll want to check with your service provider. Hear things clearly The nüvi 2597LMT offers Garmin Real Directions with Garmin Real Voice, a combination that helps keep you relaxed as you drive. Real Directions voice prompts speak the instructions to you like a friend would, using easy-to-see landmarks, buildings and businesses, and traffic lights, rather than streets with tiny signs that you might not see in time. With Real Voice technology, you'll hear directions spoken in a personable, human-sounding voice that you'll easily understand. Eye-catching 5" screen The nüvi 2597LMT's 5" touch display makes it easy to follow along, and you can view its maps in either portrait or landscape orientation. You'll have access to preloaded maps of the U.S., Canada, Mexico, and several Caribbean islands, along with millions of points of interest; you can even add your own favorite stopping points. You can find and select businesses right on the map screen without having to go through time-wasting menus. Speed limit displays with visual warnings on major roads help keep you in check, and you'll even be notified of school zones. And with one tap of the screen, you can pull up details for services that lie ahead on your route, including restaurants, gas stations, and more. You also get free updates on traffic along your route and quick solutions for avoiding delays, as well as up to four free map updates per year to keep you updated on road changes. Stay on course Garmin incorporates several helpful visual tools to keep you on the correct path: Active Lane Guidance shows you colored arrows for the correct lane for an upcoming turn. Bird's Eye junction view gives you a detailed look at complicated interchanges from above, to give you a better perspective. photoReal junction view displays realistic images of intersections, including signs and surrounding terrain, along with colored arrows for the correct lane. You'll see all three visual features in a split-screen with your overall route so you won't lose sight of what's further down the road. This Garmin's also compatible with the optional Garmin BC 30 wireless rear-view camera, so you can add an extra layer of safety when you're backing out of your driveway. Garmin Traffic The nüvi 2597LMT features free lifetime traffic updates using Garmin's Traffic service, which is more expansive and timely than ever. Garmin Traffic incorporates data from active devices on the road, historical traffic patterns, and other factors like construction, concerts, and sporting events to give you a comprehensive look at congestion in most metropolitan areas, including a few cities in Canada. Garmin Traffic is also voice activated, so it can respond to the sound of your spoken words. Best of all, you won't have to pay a penny more for this service over the life of your nüvi. Product Highlights:portable GPS navigatornüMaps Lifetime download card (receive up to 4 map updates per year without additional fees)includes Garmin Traffic receiver for free lifetime traffic infosuction-cup windshield mountcradle, car power adapter, mini-USB cable and built-in rechargeable battery with up to 2.5 hours of lifeNavigation Features:5" (480 x 272 pixels) display with touchscreen controlaccepts spoken commands and voice address entry10 million points of interest (allows custom points of interest)preloaded with maps for the United States, Canada, and Puerto Rico, plus most of Mexico and several major Caribbean islandstext-to-speech voice prompts announce actual road names at turnsReal Directions gives instructions using landmarks, buildings, and traffic signalsReal Voice announces directions in human-like voicetrafficTrends provides routes based on actual historic travel times due to daily trafficActive Lane Guidance with voice promptsBird's Eye and photoReal junction viewsspeed limit and school zone indicatorsUp Ahead feature informs of nearby servicesmulti-destination routing: route optimizationtransport modes: autoConnectivity:Bluetooth for making and receiving hands-free calls with your compatible cell phoneworks with Garmin Smartphone Link app for Android phonesExpandability:microSD card slotcompatible with optional Garmin BC 30 wireless cameraOther Features and Specs:dimensions: 5-7/16"W x 3-5/16"H x 13/16"Dweight: 6.6 oz.warranty: 1 yearOur 60-day money-back guarantee Who needs a portable navigator? Portable GPS puts you in touch with the world when you're on the road. Tap the restaurant icon, and it asks you what kind of food you're looking for. Type in "Mexican," and you're eating a burrito before you know it. A portable navigator not only gets you to your destination, it can also find museums, theaters, and other spots along the way. Many navigators receive traffic reports, so you can avoid jams. Other cool features range from hands-free calling to 3D graphics and lane guidance. Best of all, you can move a portable easily from car to car, a big plus for multi-car families. Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Reviews Average Customer Review: 47 reviews Review this product Submit a review and then enter to win a $350 rewards card Filter by rating: 5 Star: (0) 4 Star: (0) 3 Star: (0) 2 Star: (0) 1 Star: (0) Review this product: Thanks for taking the time to share your experiences about this product. Please be sure to focus your comments on the product itself. 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Enter the URL of your YouTube™ video review or product demonstration. e.g., "http://www.youtube.com/v/o79TWHh598U" 500 characters left Pros 500 characters left Cons * Agree to Terms By checking this box you agree your review becomes the property of Crutchfield, that you are over 18 years of age, that you own or have owned this product, and that you are located within the United States or its territories. Please see our Review Guidelines for more information. We reserve the right (but are not obligated to) review all submissions and edit or remove any review in any manner which we deem necessary. Your review should be posted within seven days. Garmin Nuvi 2597LMT Written By TerryS, Portland, Oregon on Monday, June 01, 2015 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Performs exceptionally right out of the box--no adjustments needed. Pros: Pleasing graphics colors and symbols--all helpful in navigating new territory. Cons: voice instructions needs more clarity and volume to overcome truck and road noise--works well in car. Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin Written By Ed, North Carolina on Saturday, May 09, 2015 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I like everything about it especially the voice commands great product. Pros: Easy to set up download was easy Cons: None Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin Nuvi 2597 LMT Written By Tom M, Virginia on Friday, January 30, 2015 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) A great unit and reasonable price. Pros: Excellent display and clear voice prompts. Update easy. Cons: None Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin 2597LMT Written By Pete G, Clinton Corners, New York on Saturday, January 17, 2015 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Great upgrade from my old GPS as my old Garmin was not Lifetime Maps and it was past due time to upgrade. Easy to read larger screen with better graphics, improved features. Setup was fairly straightforward and simple. Clearer voice "spoken" directions, mapping and 3-D picture of the approaching road view is great. I wish the voice activated directions were easier-having all other sounds muted helps but it still gets it wrong sometimes. Mounting is simple but I wish the cord went to the mount as before as this is harder to locate in the dark or dimly lit car. Other than those two "nits" it is a stellar performer and the quality for price paid with lifetime maps and traffic is wonderful. Pros: Clear voice "spoken" directions, nice screen resolution. The mapping graphics and 3-D picture of the approaching lane view is great. New mounting bracket is smaller and easier to store than previous Garmin GPS units from years ago. Cons: Voice activated directions still doesn't always recognize your directions. power cord insert/connection could be simpler like older models 3 out of 4 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin does it again Written By Craig-Florida, Florida on Saturday, January 17, 2015 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This new and updated GPS is excellent and free maps & Traffic are what I wanted. Garmin has improved a lot since my last GPS which just turned 5 years old and I had to replace it's battery (now know not to leave the GPS in the sun all day long). No U-Turn feature is excellent for RV and Big Rig. Bought this one for our new 28 foot RV. Pros: Fast acquisition of satellite even works indoors to a point. Improved graphics, Love the new features my old Garmin did not have: Voice Command, Active Lane Guidance and Trip Planner Cons: None so far. 3 out of 4 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin. 2597 Written By Old Gus, Vine Grove, KY on Saturday, January 10, 2015 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Best Garmin I have owned. Pros: Easy to set up and read. Simple transition from my old Garmin. Also like the mounting system better. Cons: Could do without school zone warning. It's another warning beep among many others in my truck. Can be confusing. 1 out of 1 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By Anonymous, coal township, pa on Sunday, December 14, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Works great! Easy to use. Was this review helpful? Yes No Seems to work well Written By Mo833, Massachusetts on Wednesday, December 10, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I just purchased this so I cannot speak to a variety of situations, but it appears to work well. I like the junction guide since I have been frustrated in the past about how my GPS read those areas. It has a lot of information. So I think i have to go into the settings and turn some stuff off. I was surprised when it gave me an alert that I was in a school zone. This is really awesome. Pros: Good size, easy to read, seems to find the satellite in a reasonable amount of time. Cons: A lot of information going on, but I may be able to adjust settings 2 out of 2 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No GPS Written By Steve, Kendallville In. on Saturday, November 22, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Very satisfied with Garmin purchase, first time GPS owner, don't know why I waited so long. Pros: Very good guidance and voice recognition could be a lifesaver. Cons: Takes a little while to sync your voice with unit, can be difficult to see in high light conditions. Hopefully there is an adjustment for this. 2 out of 2 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No garmin Written By paul, Virginia on Wednesday, November 12, 2014 used the gps on a 5 day trip south found it very easy to use and program found all the addresses I was looking for with ease and compfort Pros: extreamly easier too use more so than my previously owned magelin Cons: have none Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By MR, Texas on Thursday, July 31, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This unit retains the great features of my previous Garmin and adds many new ones. The voice command works well keeping your hands on the steering wheel. Really like how the unit displays the speed limit of the road you're on, especially in unfamiliar areas...though accuracy is sometimes an issue. Also like the trip planner; allows you to set-up your entire route prior to Departure. With lifetime maps and traffic I won't need a new GPS for a while. Overall a great unit. Pros: Voice Command Active Lane Guidance Trip Planner Cons: Accuracy of displayed speed limits 7 out of 7 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Needs the old zoom algorithm Written By Dave, Greenville, SC on Monday, July 07, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Zoom in when approaching an intersection or turn is terrible compared to my old Nuvi 255. No ability to keep unit zoomed, either. It will zoom back out above a certain vehicle speed. This alone ruins an otherwise excellent unit that is packed with features. Pros: Traffic info, lifetime map updates. Cons: Zoom algorithm needs work. Need more user settings flexibility that addresses zoom settings. 8 out of 8 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Voice command handy Written By BK, Walton, NY on Tuesday, June 10, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I like the voice command, but way too often it can't figure out what I am saying, really way off the mark. Otherwise it works well, I would like to put my city in when I put in an address, we are very rural and It has trouble finding some of the more remote ones. It is new and perhaps I just haven't figured out how to get around some of the limitations yet. Pros: voice command, 3 out of 3 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nuvi 2597 LMT Written By TomS, Longwood, FL on Saturday, May 17, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I've owned three different GPS over the years and this is the best by far. Pros: In addition to giving the street names, the GPS often says to turn at a certain landmark such as Wells Fargo Bank. Cons: None 5 out of 6 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nuvi 2597LMT Written By Anonymous, Lakeland, FL 33812 on Saturday, May 03, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Beats my wife's 2013 factory unit in her ATS, and of course cost me much more money. My Garmin canbe moved from my 1949 Chevy PU to my 1972 Monte Carlo and run circles around hers. The telephone blue tooth works great, the GPS miles per hour is a very good check on the OEM speedometer of course. Love it. 3 out of 4 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By D.Centeno, Arecibo,Puerto Rico on Friday, February 28, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Product works great! it updates automatically when connected to computer and Crutchfield service has always been excellent. Pros: easy to us, automatic up dates, expandable memory. Cons: instruction manual not easy to read. 8 out of 8 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No nuvi Written By Jerry S, El Dorado Hills, CA on Saturday, February 08, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) A real upgrade sine my last Garmin - and free updates Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin 2597LMT Written By RobD, Cleveland, TN on Sunday, January 12, 2014 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) 4.5 Stars! I really like the unit and the features! This is my first GPS unit - it is easy to use, with powerful features. Voice commands are a little awkward at first, as the unit does not always catch what I am saying, but offers good substitutes. Definitely recommend this product (which has received excellent reviews from another consumer purchasing agency. Crutchfield service always outstanding!!! Pros: Lifetime maps, voice activation, traffic; ease of use - covers all of N. America Cons: Voice recognition is easy to use, which is good, but I need to learn how to use the unit a bit better as it does not always clearly catch what I am requesting; unsure if I this my speech pattern/intonation or if this is unit limitation. This concern is minimal; I still highly recommend this GPS! 12 out of 12 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No garmin nuvi 2597 Written By MikeJ, Midwest on Monday, December 30, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Very happy with unit. Do wish it would display more than 2 choices for routes to destination. In areas I know well it will sometimes chose a route that is fractionally shorter than another route and yet if given the choice I would chose the slightly longer route due to less traffic or turns etc. You can set the unit up so that your route preference is time or shorter distance or less fuel. it just would be nice to be able to compare more than the two choices within your preference that the unit offers up. My only other comment and I've seen others mention it as well and that is downloading an update from Garmin is an experience that most folks if given the choice would rather endure a root canal. Simply awful. Pros: works well / easy to use / and works great as a bluetooth speaker phone. Cons: updating your software and maps takes way too long 7 out of 9 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Greatly Enhanced Garmin GPS Written By Peter the Pilot, Ocala, FL on Wednesday, December 25, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This GPS has proven to be a great improvement over my ca seven year old Garmin which finally died. The voice command function works very well. The Bluetooth allows me to send addresses from my 3000 person contact list on my Android Samsung Note II over to the Garmin for navigation. I am very pleased. Pros: All the features you'd ever want work well. Especially like the voice command. Cons: Screen display could be sharper. Expect to take several hours for updates when you connect online. 5 out of 5 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin 2597LMT Written By PatR, Tyler, TX on Tuesday, December 10, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Excellent product. As anticipated maps had to be updated before use but easy to do. Have found a few incorrect speed limits on various roads but generally about 98% accurate. The school zone alert is a new system that I find very helpful in unfamiliar areas. Traffic alerts seem to work well. The 'altitude of location' is also a new and nice feature. Instruction manual is okay as far as setup but not good on details of setting up some of the other features such as setting device for shortest route or fastest route (not necessarily the same). However system is fairly intuitive and work with a little experimentation. Overall, very pleased with purchase. Pros: Easy to update maps and to setup. school zone alert Altitude of location Lot of info onscreen Cons: Instruction manual Volume control a little more complicated than previous model 9 out of 9 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No NUVI2587 Written By ADREI J., OKATIE S.C. on Thursday, December 05, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) VERY GOOD GPS. I WAS AFRAID OF THE VOICE COMAND, BUT IT'S GREAT, EVEN WITH MY STRANGE ACCENT, SHOWS VERY WELL THE TURNS, SPEED, TIME, ARIVAL, DIRECTION, P.O.I'S, IN SHORT EVERYTHING YOU NEED ON THE ROAD, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT: THE COSTUMERS HELP BY CRUTCHFIELD IS FANTASTIC, NO OTHER WORD I HAVE IN MY VOCABULARY... Pros: EVERYTHING IS SUPER..SEE ABOVE Cons: NOTHING; NADA; RIEN;SEMMI,SHUM DAVAR;NIENTE 6 out of 11 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin 2597LMT Written By Va, Albemarle County on Sunday, November 24, 2013 filled our need - Pros: technicians were very help when we ran into a snag setting up this GPS. Cons: best not to load it using a MacAir computer or equivalent - insufficient memory. 2 out of 2 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By Bruce T, Birmingham, AL on Monday, November 11, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) We bought this GPS for a member of our family who needed help with processing information and following directions while driving. The landmark feature has been a big help to them, as well as the slightly larger screen. Thanks! Pros: Nice screen size, real voice with landmarks is a big help. Cons: None 5 out of 6 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Happy with the product Written By Erik, San Diego, CA on Wednesday, October 16, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I'm very happy with the performance of this product. I like the lane guidance that pops up at appropriate times. I found one freeway interchange where the map was off (not a problem with the hardware). Traffic reports are unobtrusive and reasonably accurate, but I haven't found the right way to make use of the new information. Pros: Lane guidance is a big help. Voice commands work well. The mount is easy to use. Cons: Touch screen, though resposive, is out of date in this era of glass. 3 out of 4 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin Nuvi 2597 LMT Written By Packardite, Placerville, CA on Saturday, October 12, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Very happy with the performance of this model of Garmin GPS. We purchased the item just prior to driving back to Alabama, and it worked well and performed all the tasks we were looking for. We had an older model of Garmin and thought it was a good time to upgrade. Even though this model offered a lot of options, it was easy to learn what to do. Item was shipped promptly. And, it's the first time in many years, that we received a hand-written note from Crutchfield thanking us for the purchase....now, that's what I really call customer service. Pros: Like the split screen when taking an off-ramp; the ability to bring up "what's ahead" insofar as gas stations, restaurants, etc., was great...really liked that it also provided addresses for those items. Really like being able to find out where you are by simply touching the car on the screen. Cons: None 9 out of 9 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No must read Written By dash, tampa on Saturday, October 12, 2013 I found the way you can send locations from mobile google maps to garmin thru smartphone link. lately mobile google maps has been sending wrong locations to garmins thru smartphone link like 1000's miles away since garmin doesn't take addresses just cordinates. First find the location in mobile google maps them try to zoom in the location you want to send it garmin. Then press and hold on the very next to location red icon for one or two second and you will get new red icon very next to your location on google maps. Then same as usual just tap on the new red icon then you will get few options and tap on share and choose smartphone link. 4 out of 8 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin 2597LMT Review Written By Hank, Wisconsin on Monday, October 07, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I picked up the Gramin 2597 LMT because of issues always having tower reception with my phone to rely on Google Maps. I will say that right out of the box the unit needs to be updated which is pretty standard. As other reviews indicated this can take some time. A strong internet connection is very beneficial, but the process is not always smooth so give yourself a day to monitor and restart if needed. The out of box power cord with traffic antenna was plenty long for multiple mounting options and the included windshield mount worked without issue. I would suggest practicing how the unit connects and disconnects prior to attaching the mount to the windshield. The unit quickly acquires satellites in most parts of the North Central U.S. as well as parts of Canada. The screen size, voice quality, volume, etc. were all sufficient as was the data base for most restaurants, hotels, and other POI. I will say that I'm not sure if the speedometer on my car is off or if the GPS speed is a little high, but the GPS always had me about 2MPH faster than my car. I found it nice that when traveling in Canada the GPS remained in English units (this can be changed in the settings), but did conversations/adjustments automatically for speed limits and distances based on the standard Metric System for the country. Saving POIs/favorites from Google Maps to the Garmin saves a lot of time and tough detail entry on the unit itself. I suggest having a paper map or doing a Google review of trips. Pros: Good display size, color, picture quality. Solid mounting system and power cable length. Generally accurate location information. Ability to add favorites/address from your computer is awesome and big time saver. Speed of satellite acquisition is solid. Voice commands are clear and generally given with good timing. Unit is fairly easy to work with and navigate, but downloading full manual from Garmin website should be a requirement. Cons: Long setup (especially if internet connection is slow). Routes are not always 100% best options so do your own research. Unit can be slow to provide information so you can not rely 100% on unit for voice commands to catch up. Full manual is not included with unit. I now question the accuracy of the speed measurements on the GPS vs. my car speedometer. 14 out of 16 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Nobody's perfect... Written By Corelli, NJ on Friday, September 27, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) It's very good device for quite reasonable price, has tons of useful features and options. Still, it has some glitches. Once, when we were going home at night, it showed on the screen the road to follow, but no street name, and no voice prompts. It showed the turn to take, still no voice prompts. And only after we took a ramp, as instructed by the screen, the name of the next street to take was shown, and voice prompts started. Besides, when we approach the ramps, screen splits and device shows very clearly which lane to take, which is very useful; however it happens on some ramps, but not all of them. In general, I'm happy with it, a lot of improvements comparing to my old GPS unit. Pros: Accurate, shows street names, recalculates fast, unlimited map updates at no additional cost Cons: see review 6 out of 7 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No GPS Required 2597lmt Written By Sue, Beacon Falls, CT on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I had one of the first GPS, Magellan I got in 2007. It died & I NEEDED new one. Went online to research & decided on Garmin 2597lmt. I am SOOOO HAPPY I chose this one. I didn't want Magellan as w old one it took forever to recalculate & in researching, it doesn't sound like they've fixed that yet. Tom Tom reviews seemed to send u to wrong side of streets. I've had this for about a month, it gets me exactly where I want to go, recalculated in seconds. One thing took a lil getting used to, my Magellan made dinging noise when I was supposed to turn but this tells you right out, make 2nd left or turn right at light. Still trying to figure out traffic as didn't have it on prior GPS. Only con really was amount of time to do initial updates, it took over 6 hrs & crapped out at 92% done of maps but I just hit to redo updates & it took maybe another 40 minutes. Suggest you start download when u wake in morn on weekend. Other than download, I absolutely LOVE this compact unit. Pros: Quick recalculations, tells u exactly where to turn, great timing, lane views Cons: Slow downloads of updates, paid extra for dash mount, wish it came w dash mount as well as a case 12 out of 14 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No good not great Written By MM, rockville, md on Thursday, August 29, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Directions and maps are great as expected from Garmin the display as others have noted is sort of cheap and doesn't have the fast feed back of the higher end glass displays. This system would be great if it had the higher end touch screen Pros: All the features of the more expensive models but for much cheaper price Cons: not a glass display leaving graphics muddled and touch sensitivity slightly lacking 3 out of 6 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By Frank F., Moseley, VA on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Happy with product overall. Pros: Fast route recalculation. Cons: Maps are not up to date. Voice recognition is still sub par, no improvement over older models. 1 out of 3 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nuvi 2597LMT Written By Frank, Farmington, ME on Monday, August 26, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Very sleek design. New mounting unit is more secure but will take a few tries to "learn" how attach and mount from driver's seat. Uploading maps takes too long so like other reviews, do it at night when going to bed. Voices and volume can be adjusted like other units but this unit can be louder especially when you have windows down. Good turn- by- turn and accurate in giving directions. Voice command is fair. Need to almost shout at the unit or repeat command twice when using normal voice. This unit will not have "dashboard" where you can customize compass, total mileage, and other features. However, in its place is showing the road, street, etc you are driving on which is a nice addition. Pros: sleek design, voice command, more secure mounting, give names of street, road, etc in which you are on. Cons: much too long to upload maps, no "dashboard" feature. 2 out of 2 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin Nuvi 2597LMT Written By Bob H, Appleton, Wi on Saturday, August 24, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) The Garmin 2597LMT has performed up to my expectations. Maps were loaded easily along with manual. I haven't had a chance to use all its capabilities but has performed perfectly for those I have accessed. Will be driving to Newfoundland soon which will test its Canadian Map directions. Voice command option saves time vs. putting in location by hand. Very Satisfied to date. Pros: 1. Ease of use. 2. Accurate directions. 3. Quickly updates when I venture off course. 4. Bluetooth compatiability worth the extra cost. 5. Voice command proves to be time saving.6. Lifetime maps will prove valuable over time Cons: Not thrilled with suction mount. Spent extra for a custom BMW mount that fits in dash. 3 out of 4 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Very Helpful! Written By Sharon D, Scottsdale, AZ on Sunday, August 11, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Great equipment when pre-programmed. It does not perform well with spoken commands asking directions. Pros: Overall good quality performance. Cons: Doesn't recognize addresses from my voice commands. 4 out of 5 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No gps Written By Anonymous, petaluma,Ca on Monday, August 05, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) great unit, like it alot 1 out of 3 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin 2597 Written By KH, Taft, TN on Saturday, July 27, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Works great. Pros: 5" screen is nice Cons: avoiding interstates routing questionable 3 out of 5 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Great product Written By Steven, Whitby, Ontario on Monday, July 15, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Really pleased with this product. Haven't had a single issue with it yet. Really like using it with the Garmin smartphone app. Great value and the Bluetooth upgrade from the other models is worth the extra $20. Pros: Bluetooth that syncs with smartphone app. Great display. Accurate directions and traffic info Cons: Searching for locations is very spelling sensitive if you aren't using the mobile app (which searches through Google instead of the GPS internal database). I wish that I could control the Garmin's in call volume via my phone when they are synced via Bluetooth. 8 out of 8 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By JohnE, Charlotte NC on Saturday, July 13, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Good value. Works great with Garmin App. Pros: Bluetooth integration with Garmin App. Cons: Sound quality on phone hands free. 1 out of 1 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Nice Garmin nuvi Written By Michael H - PA, Elkins Park, PA on Monday, July 08, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Very nice upgrade; this is my 4th Garmin Nuvi; each new purchase has brought a nice improvement. The directions are announced well in advance. This eliminates the sudden re-directs that would occur with some older versions. The screen is large and displays the details nicely. I'm very happy with my new Nuvi. Actually, I'd give it a 4.5 out of 5. Pros: Improved screen shots of suggested travel lanes; eliminated the annoying recalculating announcement whenever the driver deviated from the suggested course; Cons: Doesn't keep the charge as long as i'd like. 4 out of 4 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By C Rich, Boise, Idaho on Sunday, June 23, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) I have had Garmin products before so decided to stay with a reputable brand name. I am glad I did. The Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT is working great and does everything I need and more. I will be upgrading with the ecoRoute since I am used to having it on my older Garmin GPS. Great unit. 2 out of 2 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin 2597LMT Written By FSTFWRD, Southern CA on Friday, June 21, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Just had this unit for a couple of weeks but I am very pleased. It performs just as I expected. The only complaint I have is with the volume. When its turned up loud enough for a phone call, it way too loud for nav functions. Purchased the "friction" mount (weighted bag with friction material) and that works very very well. Pros: Perfect size. Split screen. Quick to recalculate. Cons: Volume difference in different functions. Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By CDJ, Minnesota on Sunday, June 09, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Have never had Nav. system before: as a first unit it is simple to get started, and simple to use. First download takes several hours, so I would recommend started it just as you go to bed. GPS and mapping (after a month and almost 5000 miles) has been very accurate; checking it out on known routes for a couple months before taking it on road trip. Screen size is good, graphics are great, voice functions work well (better than most voice function systems I have), screen layout is clean and clear - I really like this unit. Pros: I have found mapping and graphics to be very accurate. Ability to customize graphics and settings is above average. Unit is simple to use and generally intuitive. There are plenty of options and functions to keep you happy. Ability to monitor system functions as well as to upgrade unit is above average; i.e. lots of "gismos." Cons: First down load does take a couple (a few) hours; just start it before you go to bed, or leave for the evening - times of course all depend on internet speeds; it is worth the wait. 6 out of 6 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT Written By JerryT, Portaeville, MO on Friday, May 31, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) A very nice quality product which so far seems to do what it is supposed to do. The only thing I didn't like was the mounting base was bigger than it needs to be. Pros: Compact, accurate, clear picture. Cons: Mounting base seems to be a lot bigger than necessary Was this review helpful? Yes No Great GPS lwith many very helpful features Written By Henry1130, Cortlandt Manor, NY on Saturday, May 11, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) Excellent GPS system with great features that can be supplemented with the smart-phone link. Touch screens are very responsive and the voice commands appear to be working well and are easy to adapt to. The hands-free telephone, messaging, etc. are very helpful in keeping driving as the fundamental reason to be in the car! My second Garmin. The first is still working well and has been moved to our other car! Pros: Easy to use Lots of very useful features Hands -free telephone with good sound Clear screen that is easy to see from a wide angle Can move easily and quickly through menus and feature sub-menus Easy to customize features to personal requirements Smart Phone link addds more features and data availabilty Cons: None noticed as yet 5 out of 5 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Garmin nuvi 2597 LMT Written By Anonymous, Plymouth Indiana on Thursday, April 18, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) We have been very happy with this purchase. The highlighted arrowed exits make taking the right exits through large cities so much easier than my previous Tom Tom. The large scree is very clear. We have not had any problems with accurate directions... it has been right on every time. Pros: large screen Accurate directions Clear highlighted exits 12 out of 12 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No 2597 LMT Written By John, Murfreesboro, TN on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 Crutchfield Customer Review (What's this?) This replaced my 265 that died after 6 years. 1 - 10 Ratings Display 7 : the screen is mushy, matte like. Would have preferred glass. Speakerphone 4 : callers can not hear me well. Wish there was a jack for external microphone. Voice command 9 : works great on most streets.No more typing.Easier for using while driving. Maps : 8 : Roads missing are 2 years old after online update.Online update is clunky. Traffic 10 : Hey it works and its free. May even buy the added traffic features Weather : it gives the forecast.I use my phone for weather anyway. POI 10 : Can find POI's with voice command. Some businesses show that have been closed for at least 2 years. But still great feature.Phone number comes up with map,so call first. Pros: Large screen, Voice commands, Traffic, POI Cons: Speakerphone , Display, 11 out of 14 people found this helpful Was this review helpful? Yes No Hands-on research Features and specs chart | What's in the box? | In-depth notes What's in the box? Download owner's manual Portable GPS navigation device (w/5" LCD) Universal bracket mount Suction cup mount TA20 Car charger with attached 69" cable (Mini-B 2.0 USB plug) 20" USB cable (Type A USB on one end and Mini B 2.0 USB on the other end) "Welcome" sheet (graphic quick start guide) Important Safety and Product Information Garmin Express sheet Features and Specs Features Maps Free lifetime updates Map Coverage USA (50), CA, PR, USVI Points of Interest 10,000,000 Multiple Destination Routing Yes Screen Size 5" Widescreen Yes Bluetooth Capable Phone Photo Viewer No Digital Audio Playback No Text To Speech Yes Voice Control Yes Dynamic Content Services With Smartphone Link Removable Memory Type microSD Battery Life 2.5 hours Warranty Parts Warranty 1 Year Labor Warranty 1 Year Product Research General Features Navigation Features General Features Overview: The Garmin nüvi 2597LMT, part of the Advanced Series, is a portable GPS navigation device that provides automatic routing and turn-by-turn voice directions. The unit includes subscription-free, lifetime traffic updates and free lifetime map updates. With built-in Bluetooth, you can make and receive hands-free phone calls through a Bluetooth-enabled phone, plus receive live services through a free Smartphone Link app. 5" Touchscreen LCD: The nüvi 2597LMT features a 5" manual dual-orientation WQVGA color TFT touchscreen LCD with a resolution of 480 x 272 pixels. The screen can be viewed in either landscape or portrait orientation, and can be switched in the Settings Menu. Preloaded Maps: The nüvi 2597LMT contains NAVTEQ's City Navigator North America NT 2013 maps with detailed road maps of the United States (including Alaska and Hawaii), Canada, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Mexico, Cayman Islands, and Bahamas. The maps include more than 10-million points of interest (POIs) to help you find the destination you desire. Free Lifetime Map Updates: The nüvi 2597LMT offers free lifetime map updates so you'll always have the most up-to-date maps, POIs, and navigation information. Map updates are available for download up to 4 times a year with no subscription or update fees and no expiration dates. Free Lifetime Map Updates are subject to Terms & Conditions. nüMaps Guarantee: If you register your device on Garmin's website within 90 days of acquiring satellites while driving, you can check to see if a free map update is available. You must be able to connect your device via a high-speed internet connection in order to check the loaded map version and download the map update. Garmin Express: You can connect the unit to your computer with the supplied USB cable for downloading map updates, custom POIs, voices, and vehicles. You will need to download the Garmin Express software to update your maps and register the unit. Garmin Express requires Windows Vista or newer or Mac OS X 10.7 or higher, running in 64-bit. Bluetooth: The nüvi 2597LMT has built-in Bluetooth technology. This allows you to sync the unit with a Bluetooth-enabled device for hands-free calling through its integrated microphone and speaker. You can make and receive phone calls as long as the devices are within 33 feet and paired. microSD Card Slot: The nüvi 2597LMT has a microSD card slot so you can store and use optional cityXplorer or marine maps (available from Garmin), or download custom voices and vehicles from the Garmin Garage. Power Requirements: The Garmin nüvi 2597LMT is powered by your vehicle's battery using the included 12-volt cigarette lighter power adapter. The built-in Lithium-Ion battery will provide up to 2.5 hours of use after a 4-hour charge. An optional AC adapter allows you to operate the unit on ordinary household current. The unit can be powered by your computer when it is connected via the supplied USB cable. Navigation Features Garmin Real Directions/Garmin Real Voice: The nüvi 2597LMT features Garmin Real Directions with easy-to-understand driving directions using recognizable landmarks, buildings, and traffic lights, in addition to street names. Garmin Real Voice uses advanced speech technology that sounds more like a natural human voice. Voice Command: You can use your voice to activate and operate the nüvi 2597LMT. Voice Command allows you to use the device by speaking words and commands and following the voice prompts. After speaking a predetermined Wakeup Phrase, you can enter the names and/or address of popular, well-known locations. If necessary, you can disable voice prompts without muting the device, so you'll still hear the audible directions as you travel. Smartphone Link: Smartphone Link is a phone application that allows the device to download live data using your phone's data connection, and transferring the data wirelessly via Bluetooth. The free Garmin Smartphone Link app provides access to Garmin Live Services, which includes free and subscription-based plans for viewing traffic data, weather, dynamic parking, and fuel prices. Garmin Smartphone Link is available for iPhone in the App Store and for Android in the Google Play store. Garmin Traffic: Garmin Traffic helps you avoid traffic tie-ups that may delay your travel. It uses one of the most extensive traffic avoidance systems to check traffic conditions more than 2 billion times a month. The traffic updates appear to the side of the map, so your driving map remains onscreen at all times. The updates can give you details about the situation, including the estimated length of the delay. Free Lifetime Garmin Traffic requires no subscription or activation, and is subject to Terms & Conditions. Note: Traffic updates are available in approximately 98 markets throughout the U.S. and Canada. Location-relevant pop-up ads and coupons will be received when traffic is enabled on the unit. Optional Garmin HD Digital Traffic: When you add the optional Garmin GTM60 HD Digital Traffic receiver, you will receive updates as often as every 30 seconds over the HD Radio system, more than 10 times more often than other analog traffic receivers. Garmin HD Digital Traffic is available in approximately 84 metropolitan markets throughout the U.S. Points of Interest: The built-in maps include over 10-million Points of Interest (POIs) such as hotels, restaurants, gas stations, attractions, and ATMs. are included to help you find the destination you desire. In addition, you can download additional points of interest and add them to the unit's memory (Custom POIs). The free POI Loader software can be downloaded from the Garmin website to assist you in creating Custom POIs. Active Lane Guidance: Active Lane Guidance with voice prompts lets you know in advance which lane you should to be in to make an upcoming turn. In select metropolitan areas, the nüvi 2597LMT will enter split screen mode to display the photoReal junction view, a realistic depiction of the junction, complete with road signs and brightly-colored arrows to indicate the proper lane for navigation. The Bird's Eye view also gives you a top-down view of upcoming interchanges. Map View Options: You can choose from a 3D map view or two 2D map views (Track Up or North Up) as you navigate to your destination. Speed Limits: As you travel along a major road or street, the speed limit is displayed on the screen alongside of the vehicle's speed display. If you are exceeding the speed limit, the color of the vehicle speed indication changes to red. If the highway's posted speed limit has changed since the last map update, you can change the speed limit display on the unit. Where Am I?: The "Where Am I?" feature gives you instant access to important information in case of an emergency. When you touch the vehicle icon on the map screen, the "Where Am I?" feature provides the coordinates (including elevation) of your current position, plus the nearest address and intersections. There are also buttons to help you locate the nearest hospitals, police stations, gas stations, and roadside assistance. You can also save the location for future reference. Up Ahead: As you travel along your route, the Up Ahead feature constantly indicates the location of nearby businesses, including gas, food, lodging, restrooms, parking, and banks and ATMs. The locations are shown as icons, some with brand logos, and when the icons are touched on the screen, details of the services are displayed, and you are given the opportunity to navigate to that address. Garmin Locate: To assist you in finding your parked vehicle, the Garmin Locate feature saves your location to memory when you remove the device from the windshield mounting cradle while the device is on. You can search for your vehicle's location using the Last Spot button in the menu. Destination Search: When the Where To? button is pressed, you can use the search tools to find your destination and plan your route. The search tools allow you to search for cities, addresses, intersections, or coordinates. The new Search Bar lets you directly enter a category, brand name, address, or city name. The unit's memory stores the last 50 locations you have found so you can quickly find a previous destination. Garmin Garage: The unit offers your choice of eight standard icons to represent your vehicle. The online Garmin Garage offers dozens more vehicle icons that you can download for free. In addition, you can purchase icon and voice bundles with Star Wars (Yoda, Darth Vader), Sesame Street (Oscar, Cookie Monster, Ernie & Bert), and The Simpsons (Homer and Marge) themes. trafficTrends: When the trafficTrends feature is enabled, the nüvi 2597LMT automatically records historic traffic data and uses that data to calculate more efficient routes. This information is sent to Garmin when you connect your device to myGarmin (your personal account site on the Garmin website) using your computer. Different routes may be calculated based on traffic trends for the day of the week or the time of day. myTrends: In addition to the trafficTrends feature, myTrends also takes into account your personal driving habits and anticipates your route when calculating your ETA to your frequent destinations. Trip Planner: You can create and save a trip with multiple destinations using the Trip Planner. Once you have entered your destinations, you can manually set them in the order of your preference, or allow the device to calculate the most efficient route. Trip itineraries can be saved in memory for future use. Trip Computer: The trip information page displays your current speed and direction, and provides helpful statistics about your trip. Dual trip odometers keep up with your total mileage. The page also indicates the distance and driving time to your next maneuver, as well as the distance and driving time to your destination. Your maximum speed and moving average speed are also displayed. The information can be reset in advance of your next trip. Where I've Been/Trip Log: The Where I've Been application allows you to view your previous routes and places you have stopped on the map. In addition, the device keeps a Trip Log, which is a record of the path you have traveled. The Travel History setting must be enabled in order for the Where I've Been and Trip Log features to function. GPS Simulator: When indoors, you can activate the built-in GPS simulator and practice using the unit. This turns off the GPS receiver so it's not searching for satellites, saving battery power. ecoRoute: The optional ecoRoute feature calculates the fuel economy and the fuel price of navigating to a destination, and offers tools for improving fuel efficiency. The ecoRoute application can be purchased from the Garmin Online Store. Garmin Mechanic: This device is compatible with Garmin Mechanic with ecoRoute HD, which gives you real-time automotive diagnostic information right on the LCD screen. By connecting to your vehicle's OBD II port, you can monitor your vehicle's performance, providing detailed information on fuel efficiency, engine diagnostics, and sensor and gauge data. Garmin Mechanic with ecoRoute HD is compatible with most 1996 and newer cars and light trucks sold in the United States. See Garmin's incompatible vehicles list for more information. Our Product Research Team At Crutchfield, you'll get detailed, accurate information that's hard to find elsewhere. That's because we have our own in-house Product Research team. They verify what's in the box, check the owner's manual, and record dimensions, features and specs. We stay on top of new products and technologies to help people make informed choices. Sorry, the Garmin nüvi® 2597LMT is no longer available. Looking for a similar item? Shop all Portable GPS Navigation Or, you can still... Write a review Purchase accessories for this product Download the product manual Search the website Go


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the mobile snippets are 15 seconds max uploaded from phones. i doubt there is going to be a 30 second commercial on a 15 sec spot. not sure how they are gonna do it, but they will do it somehow….
the dashboard is becoming available for sale and isn't locked up like it used to be…..everyone is getting in there nowadays, but you do have some fine points otherwise.
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Restless Legs Syndrome
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Restless Legs Syndrome
- Unpleasant sensations in the legs
- An irresistible urge to move the legs
- Involuntary, repetitive, jerking movements
- Interrupted sleep because of periodic leg movements
Risk Factors
- Family history
- Pregnancy
- Certain medications, such as antidepressants, antipsychotics, caffeine, theophylline, dopamine antagonists, and sedating antihistamines
- Peripheral neuropathy
- Chronic kidney failure
- Anemia or iron deficiency
- Diabetes
- Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)
- Feelings of tingling, creeping, pulling, prickling, pins and needles, or pain in the legs during periods of rest or inactivity—may also occur in the arms
- Symptoms typically get worse at night
- A strong urge to relieve uncomfortable sensations with movement
- Restlessness, including floor pacing, tossing and turning in bed, and rubbing the legs
- Difficulty falling asleep and staying asleep
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- Monitoring of leg activity during sleep
- Study of leg muscles, such as electromyography (EMG) and nerve conduction studies
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Treatment for Mild Cases of RLS
- Massage your legs.
- Use a heating pad or ice pack.
- Take a hot bath.
- Avoid using tobacco, alcohol, or caffeine.
- Follow a sleep routine.
- Begin a safe exercise program with the advice of your doctor.
- Avoid the use of medications that may worsen RLS.
Treatment for Conditions That May Trigger RLS
- Anemia
- Diabetes
- Neuropathy
- Kidney failure
- Hypothyroidism
Treatment for More Severe Cases of RLS
National Sleep Foundation http://www.sleepfoundation.org
Willis-Ekbom Disease Foundation http://www.rls.org
Canadian Sleep Society http://www.css-scs.ca
Health Canada http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca
Cui Y, Wang Y, Liu Z. Acupuncture for restless legs syndrome. Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2008;(4)CD006457.
Explore restless legs syndrome. National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute website. Available at: http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/rls. Updated November 1, 2010. Accessed June 27, 2013.
Restless legs syndrome. EBSCO DynaMed website. Available at: http://www.ebscohost.com/dynamed. Updated March 7, 2013. Accessed June 27, 2013.
Restless legs syndrome fact sheet. National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke website. Available at: http://www.ninds.nih.gov/disorders/restless%5Flegs/detail%5Frestless%5Flegs.htm. Updated June 13, 2013. Accessed June 27, 2013.
Salas RE, Gamaldo CE, Allen RP. Update in restless legs syndrome. Curr Opin Neurol. 2010;23(4):401-406.
What is Willis-Ekbom disease (WED)/RLS? Willis-Ekbom Disease Foundation website. Available at: http://www.rls.org/about-wed-rls. Accessed June 27, 2013.
11/26/2012 DynaMed Systematic Literature Surveillance http://www.ebscohost.com/dynamed: Aurora R, Kristo D, Bista S, et al. The treatment of restless legs syndrome and periodic limb movement disorder in adults—an update for 2012: Practice parameters with an evidence-based systematic review and meta-analyses: An American Academy of Sleep Medicine Clinical Practice Guideline. Sleep. 2012;35(8):1039-1062.
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Best Book since Hogan's Five Fundamentals
Pros: Easy to Understand, Rich with Information, Geometrically Correct, Piecemeal Approach DOES Suit Everyone
Cons: Not as technical as I'd like, but that's not a con for very many people at all!
The conclusion from my full review:
The Stack and Tilt Swing is a complete guide to the golf swing. The book, like the swing, is simple to understand, and the main points are continually revisited in new and different ways that help it really sink in. Not only that, but the golfer is given the tools to understand their flaws. No longer will you be forced to say something like "I think I rushed that one" or "I didn't release the club well enough there." No longer will you visit the range, hit 100 balls, and leave more frustrated than when you showed up. Instead, you'll be able to practice with a purpose and work on specific things to improve your swing based on your contact and the ball flight. Five Lessonsnever gave you that.
Remember the opening statement Mike and Andy make? They conclude the book in a similar fashion that hints at how revelatory Mike and Andy believe Stack and Tilt to be:
Stack and Tilt is probably not as huge as the Fosbury Flop, but it's up there, and the book belongs on the shelves of any and every golfer who considers themselves a student of the game. Whether you adopt the Stack and Tilt swing for yourself - and I'd wager that if you read the first two chapters with an open mind you will - the book is virtually guaranteed to offer at least one or two bits of information in exchange for the measly $18 or $19 retailers are charging.


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Perkins Prom 2013 at Kalahari Resort
I am not sure why schools allow photographers in dances...while I doubt there is malicious intent, pictures are taken out of context. Pretty sure Perkins will be getting some grief over these.
Maybe the Register should be the one, ya know. They should not be allowed into stuff like this. It seems like perhaps they are looking to stir the pot some. I am guessing that Perkins Schools will catch a lot of poo over this. The SandPaper will be the first one to report it as soon as they create the story!
Why would Perkins be getting any grief over these photos? It's just kids having fun like all the other kids from other local schools that have been pictured at their proms!
A lot of class and pride went into some of these poses (sarcasm). Sure am glad my kids weren't pictured in some of them (sarcasm off).
Torn t-shirts and wife beaters at the prom?
Leave it to Perkins to keep it "Classy!"
Leave it to Perkins to keep it "Classy!"
Erie countian, give it a couple days and I am sure the grief will be there.
What Would Bellevue Do?
It looks to me like turning the air conditioning up would have made everyone happier.
BINGO there is not AC in the room. Let's see if anybody can think of a reason the jackets and vest came off. Looks like some kids had the idea of bringing T-shirts. click, that was rhe light turning on.
I ask, what kind of parents and what kind of administrators would allow this very inappropriate "bump and grind" style of dancing? Shame on Perkins parents and shame on the Perkins School Administrators!!!
Hey Register: There was 4 area proms last nite, what happened to Margaretta..just wondering, Thanks
Maybe Perkins is trying to show how poor their school district really is? They can't even afford dress shirts for the boys on prom night?
Honestly, not a single student was ill dressed. It was only in the middle of the night when most of them had sweated through their layers that they decided to take off the jackets and some their dress shirts. Is that disrespectful somehow? I dont see how keeping comfortable is bad. It is not like this is a new concept. How about we take focus off what people were dressed like when the dance ended and maybe look at how nice everyone looked or heaven forbid if anyone had fun.
Oh well each to their own. These are the future fathers that are going to be in the future showing their pictures of attending the prom to their sons..........trying to convince them they were well dressed and well behaved. Ah, its their choice and as I say to each their own.
I have a good friend whose son found pictures of the dad at a formal dance as school. Father had a very difficult time explaining to his son why he looked like such a bum at the dance. He finally gave up and said..."It was a phase I was going thru.... alright?" Son just laughed and said "awesome dad you are more normal than I thought" ha ha
The guys in t-shirts or whatever look absolutely RIDICULOUS!
Can't blame this on SR..not like this is first time theyever went to prom and took pics. Been doing it for years and never seemed to b a problem. Can't help it shows kids being trashy. Where r the teachers in charge? Don't see any! If I were the parent of a few of these kids I would be sick to my stomach...at the kids..not at SR
How many of these "kids" are open enrolled?
And just what does open enrollment have to do with a prom? What is the point of this statement? However to answer the question, not that many. The bulk of open enrolled students are freshmen and sophomores.
All of them, "VOTENO". The non-open enrolled students, not pictured, were on the other side of the room waltzing with each other. Geez.
These are teenagers having fun. Go be sick if you must but that is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. There is a lot more going on in this world to get worked up about than a prom night.
St. Mary's is looking better and better every day!
As others have said. Vote no on both school levies! Send a message to the board and Gunner! He needs to move on!


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October 29, 2008, 03:08:05 PM »
I have read your excellent tutorial on the benefits of switching from adobe rgb color space to prophoto rgb. My 'new' workflow takes files input from my cf cards and they are initially processed in acr and opened as a psd smart object in 16 bit, prophoto rgb. This seems to be working out very well.
My point of inquiry is, when I open an older image that is already in adobe color space it has to be converted to the new prophoto space. When I open a camera raw image right off the camera and it gets made into a prophoto the software has the full sensor data to process with so I get this much wider gamut or space. If I open an image that is already a psd in adobe rgb it is the smaller size of the adobe space and so it would seem that this would be a useless conversion since the color space is already shrunk down. It would be like converting an 8 bit file to 16 bit. The file labels change but the functional gains are already lost.
To shorten this down, in case I have done a poor job of laying the groundwork.
If I have a pre-existing adobe rgb, psd file can I convert it to prophoto rgb with full benefits other than a metadata change or is it better for me to go back to the cr2 file and do the conversion with the full raw data. The down side of course would be the loss of all work done to the psd files which makes this an unacceptable choice. I guess it is possible to process all older work in adobe rgb and all new stuff in prophoto but this has workflow issues as well.
Like many of you, I have thousands of images (in my case now as adobe rgb and psd) and need to know if I should only convert newly shot work to the wider space or if converting my whole image collection to prophoto ( and possibly dng ) is good or at least not harmful.
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October 29, 2008, 03:40:33 PM »
My 2 cents: Prophoto is recommended because it gives you the largest color space from which to begin - it maximizes flexibility and options. However, your final display choice will not be prophoto. For the web (ignoring the color awareness of Firefox for the moment) sRBG is what you get. If you're going to print an image then the gamut is driven by your paper and ink, and a soft proof of the file will be necessary to see what is being given up in terms of gamut to get the image on paper. You would need to go back to the original raw file if you wanted to re-print under your new work flow. If the original raw file was initially converted into a color space other than prophoto, converting the resulting tif or jpg or psd into prophoto isn't going to re-capture the gamut lost on the original conversion.
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A good overview
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A good overview
Excellent advice.
You will note from Joe's notes that he is selling Adobe RGB Variant spaces. If you are stuck with old files in Adobe RGB and if you have not clipped channels somewhere along the way, then you can increase colourfulness by assigning a variant space., which is possible up to the stage where clipping is observed on the media soft proof.
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October 30, 2008, 12:18:29 AM »
Well, short of buying J. Holmes' working spaces and "assigning" them there's no reason to "convert" from a narrower to a wider color space. If you just convert to a wider space you probably would just lose some insignificant amount of image info.
From what I understand Mr Holmes is trying to get more colors in an image than what was actually captured, in which case you'd need assigning wider spaces that are not radically different from eachother.
"Assigning" and "converting" are two completely different things (see the article for more details but for most people "assigning" spaces is irrelevant). You definitely wouldn't want to "assign" ProPhoto to anything.
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October 30, 2008, 05:47:41 AM »
I don't want to get too far into the assign vs convert discussion, save to say the difference is important and photographers should know the importance of assigning and when to do it.
Assigning is non destructive- the colours retain their numbers, but are remapped into another space , which may be preferable . Converting retains the appearance of the colours by changing their numbers to fit a new space. This is
imperative when images in different colour spaces need to be combined, however it may not be easy to go back home.
There are other situations where assigning or converting may be appropriate.
Both are equally useful. A bit like f numbers and shutter speeds. You need both but they are quite different.
It takes a bit of mental effort to get ones head around it. Joe's stuff is spot on , but must be read slowly and carefully.
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October 30, 2008, 11:58:42 AM »
Thanks for all the feedback.
After thinking about the advice given and reading the referenced sites I ran an experiment that I wan to run by you all.
I opened a problem image in adobe rgb that when soft proofed shows a tremendous amount of gray, out of gamut indicator (shift+cmd+y) in the soft proof option.
The image was closed and opened again this time converting it to prophoto rgb. The soft proof screen was updated to reflect the new color space and I again (shift+cmd+y) to show what was being clipped and found that the huge amount of clipped/gray colors had gone down to almost none.
Does this indicate that even though I did not get full benefit from expanding the adobe to the prophoto space (from a psd) like I would if I went all the way back to the raw image and converted it, that I still got my colors mapped into the image and will not have the rendering intent chop or adjust as much which should give better colors in my print.
If this assumption is correct then I can continue to process all new images into photoshop as prophoto and can keep all my hard work on the older images stored with layers and smart objects intact by just converting to prophoto without having to go back to cr2 and recreate all the work I have done.
I know this sounds lazy, but I have gone back (a couple of times) and changed my image files to reflect changes in software and hardware. If we keep on going back and modifying complex, multi-layered image files by the thousand to reflect new bit depths, smart objects, plug-ins and color spaces we will never have time to shoot a new image. Do you guys have a point where you say that older images that are printing just fine and selling good need to be re-worked yet again? Or do you hit a point where you say that certain images are going to be left alone and then focus on current shoots to use new hardware and software or processing techniques? I am trying to balance the growth from new technology and the growth that comes only from shooting new work and not just performing maintainence on the old.
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Assigning is non destructive- the colours retain their numbers, but are remapped into another space , which may be preferable .
Assigning is indeed non destructive as the numbers don't change as you point out. But the conversion is and here lies the rub. You will get different results in terms of color (duh) and destructive editing based on the conversion which uses the assignment to complete the color space conversion. There's no free lunch here assuming there's another color space conversion.
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I have read your excellent tutorial on the benefits of switching from adobe rgb color space to prophoto rgb. My 'new' workflow takes files input from my cf cards and they are initially processed in acr and opened as a psd smart object in 16 bit, prophoto rgb. This seems to be working out very well.
Which excellent tutorial are you referring to?
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