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Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
July 27, 2012, 08:21:46 AM »
My best friend, also a pro photographer, and I were talking about shows and numbering prints/canvases for limited editions. The question/debate was: does a limited edition (let's say 100), comprise 100 prints of a specific image, regardless of size, or would it be something like 100 8x10's and 100 16x20's etc.?
I'm curious about other thoughts and which would be the correct in numbering, or if both are accepted practices. Thanks for your thoughts.
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July 27, 2012, 08:51:40 AM »
Talked to a serious collector once. I got the sense that he wanted a guarantee that there were very, very few prints out there identical to the one he was buying. He was thinking in terms of 5 prints or something like that.
My guess is that for him a "limited" edition of 100 prints (or 100 prints/size) would be pretty much equivalent to an unlimited edition. In other words, limiting your prints to an edition of 100 would not give it more value.
And to expand the discussion to more than just the size issue: Suppose you don't like the print that you have "limited" to 100, and decide to go back to the raw file and re-do the image and then reprint it. You can end up with a significantly different image. Is this new one the "same" image as the one limited to 100 prints--because it is "from" the same raw file--or is it a new one because it has been developed in a different way? Can you rework a print and then do another "limited" edition of 100 prints? (The fact that you might do this or can do this would absolutely deter a serious collector from taking any claim about "limiting" an edition to a certain number as pretty much just talk.)
I don't know what the answer is in all of this. Collectors know that there is an data file back there on your computer (or its backup) that you can use to churn out a million prints and nothing you can say will take away that knowledge from the collector.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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July 27, 2012, 08:59:45 AM »
There are some conservative definitions of "limited edition" that have some meaning. A great many, including some well known painters who sell "limited edition" prints of their work, use looser definitions that make the term virtually meaningless. Some definitions and my personal opinion are at
. [edit] I should also have mentioned that the term carries some legal obligations for record keeping and the like. Whatever "rule" is used you have to assure that two people never end up with prints bearing the same number. Lawsuits have resulted from such mix-ups, though they are rare.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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July 27, 2012, 09:48:53 AM »
We've talked about this topic before, but sadly I can't find the old thread. It had lots of good comments in it.
Personally I'm partial to Brooks Jensen's take on this. Here's what he says at
Many photographers artificially limit the number of prints they will produce from a given negative, offer numbered editions, offer limited editions of a given size of print, destroy their negatives, and many other silly games whose objective is to convince you to buy their artwork and pay more for it. I don't. I won't. Either you like and want to buy my work, or you shouldn't. I make it available; I make it affordable; I then let the chips fall where they may. I have written about this at length in an article published in LensWork in this PDF file.
While it is true that photography is not limited to a finite number of prints from any given negative or digital file, I, however, am. Like all of us, I have a limited amount of both time and energy. In that sense, all artwork is limited simply because the art maker is. Such is life.
While I don't limit my prints, I do know that a clear and precise provenance is important to some people and may have historical importance long after I am gone. All of my individual prints now specify the date of their production, the source (negative or digital file), the precise number of copies I made that day, and which is the number of this print. Here is an example of that text. Folios are dated with the edition and printing information and numbered sequentially.
A typical First Edition, First Printing will be three to five copies, sometimes as few as two, on rare occasions as many as thirty.
Time marches, we change, our creative vision does, too. It is not uncommon for me to see new ways to interpret an old image. I am not opposed to improving an image when I see a need to. Each time I fuss with the digital file, usually to change it a bit to more closely match my creative vision, I call this a new "edition." It's a different interpretation of the raw data, so to speak a new "performance" in Ansel Adams-speak. Sometimes that might be a little tonal adjustment, sometimes a contrast change, sometimes a dodge here or a burn there, sometimes I'll crop something or digitally remove a bothersome spot, occasionally I go all the way back to the negative and re-scan or back to the original in-camera file and start over. In one way or another, the new "edition" is a new artistic rendition of the image.
Contrary to the contemporary zeitgeist, therefore, the later editions are the ones I would generally consider the more mature interpretation of the image. There is a stampede these days toward "vintage prints," the rarity and value of which are supposed to be paramount. I respectfully disagree with this herd mentality. As an artist grows in maturity and sophistication, as their vision about an image ages with wisdom and insight, their later renditions are likely to be improvements. Probably. I tend to think my latest edition is the best one and my "vintage print" as simply that an older one, but not necessarily a better one.
Having said that, additional editions may also be a result technology improvements.
The designation "Third Edition, Second Printing" on an individual print would mean that this is the third time I've worked this image from a creative (or technological) point of view and the second time I've printed a batch of prints from this third rendition. The print # is simply a count of how many prints I've made from that digital file on that day. Print number, therefore, indicate how many were actually produced. (I've always cringed at the "limited edition" designation "4/250" supposedly indicating that this is the fourth of 250 prints, when we all know that in 99.99% of such photographs there were not 250 actually made. Again, see my article What Size is the Edition?)
Since I don't place an arbitrary limit on my prints, for purposes of provenance the only way to tell how many prints I've made in total would be to add up the number of prints made from all editions and all printings something that unfortunately could only be done by examining my printing records.
Folios are numbered somewhat differently. The colophon page of each folio includes information about the edition and printing date. For folios, however, the # indicates the number of that folio regardless of edition. Folio #57 would indicate that I've have produced 56 folios before this one, but these may be different editions or printings. Again, since I do not print in limited editions, the only way to tell how many folios have been created in total (for example, after #57) would be to examine my printing records.
I produce and sell my prints and folios on a first-come, first served basis. Orders are filled in Edition/# order. Obviously, editions are not reprinted except where identified as a later printing.
I also reserve the right to withdraw from sale any image or folio at any time.
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February 02, 2013, 03:57:37 AM »
I am starting up a fine art limited edition printing service/shop - and have had a chance to consider this - my approach would be an agreement between printer & artist ---- that implicitly includes the concerns of the collector. (1) Prints are produced at one time - embossed with printer stamp directly onto media - (2) Artist agrees to sign and date final fine art prints (3) collector is assured that the edition is authenticated by these protocols. Ordinarily a limited edition' size would be 'limited' to the outlay of (a) printers materials / (b) investment by artist and/or his or her gallery - likely around 5 - 25. I have seen so many shenanigans regarding 'LE" - where in fact they are printed on demand. That's the way I will proceed. Interested in others thoughts - but my mind is made up on the matter - since I am an artist - and have a few collectors out there.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 02, 2013, 07:51:55 AM »
I've looked into this as well and came to the absolute conclusion that there is no standard and that both, offering LE and open editions, are correct.
I've taken the middle ground by offering most of my prints in open editions, but I do number them. Then I have a few images that are special to me for some reason or another that I offer as LE, but the limit is 25, or 50. It really depends what you do with the very first print. If you offer it as LE, then you should stick to that.
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February 02, 2013, 08:21:53 AM »
Here are a couple of essays on the topic:
Limited Editions
by Mike Johnston
The Numbering Affair
by Alain Briot
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 02, 2013, 11:35:43 AM »
IMHO, today, a "limited edition" label in photography has no more meaning than the label on the back of your shirt. A Daguerrotype is by nature a limited edition of one, so is a Polaroid, but how many virtually identical prints can I make from my file using my printer?. I, too, agree with Brook Jensen's method of identifying images and prints. I also think that people who have their images printed by someone else ought to identify and credit the print maker. We almost should credit the entire cast -- from camera, software and printer designers, to paper manufacturers... -- that allow us to produce our images, film makers do that. These days I include the relevant information about the image and print on the print margin in an area that will be likely over-matted and show the year the image was made and the year the print was made on my title and signature line.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 02, 2013, 06:49:55 PM »
That's where integrity comes in. If you offer LE prints, then you have to honour the edition and spell out exactly what the particular LE includes.
I like your idea of acknowledging the printer. I include the same kind of information you do on a card that's included with each print sale.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 03, 2013, 02:56:06 AM »
If you offer it as LE, then you should stick to that.
Mike - totally agree with that
- and do understand the open edition idea - your not hiding this either....
In my case - focusing on fine art reproduction and collectors concerns is a wee different - I see the value in creating them 'at one time' - so signature, numbering, dating and printer's stamping (chop) all become part of the equation. As far as my own work is concerned - I do not entertain the open edition idea. Just a personal preference as a painter / printmaker.
a "limited edition" label in photography has no more meaning than the label on the back of your shirt
I suppose you could say that - especially in the digital age and the impossible abuse taking place in the industry - but I think on a personal level - you can commit to the principles of LE - which involves what I just mentioned - investment/outlay of time, materials to an underlying ethical principle.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 03, 2013, 09:56:28 AM »
Yes, I also state when a print is open edition - right below the title on the card that goes with it. And of course it's numbered with a #1 rather than a #1/xx. I'm finding that most people don't really care that it's an open edition, but if they purchase one that is a LE and I tell them, then they're even happier.
I don't think someone will make a photographic print purchase 'because' it's LE. The image either touches them in some way or it doesn't. LE is just a marketing tool to add value to a print and hopefully command a higher price. I don't think it artificially adds value as some people indicate, because if someone is willing to pay, then the value must be there. As stated, you have to stick to your commitment though.
I really couldn't decide which track to take, LE or OE, so that is why I offer both. Seems to be working.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 03, 2013, 11:40:59 AM »
Maybe a little off topic, but related, is the recent auction of photographs by the National Geographic Society. One photo, Afghan Girl, sold for $178,900 (including buyers premium). Thats a lot of money for a print, especially considering the terms of sale:
Successful bidders are advised that reproduction rights are not transferred upon sale of any lot. National Geographic Society retains all copyright and reproduction rights it has in the property offered in this sale.
It appears that the buyer paid $178,900 for a print that wasnt even a limited edition. Perhaps there are other relevant terms of sale that werent publicized? Or maybe the buyer paid, in part, to fund ImagineAsia's educational mission. (Quote from the auction press release: Proceeds from the sale of this image help fund ImagineAsia's educational mission.)
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 03, 2013, 03:15:31 PM »
We should note that editions have legal implications in several states.
Part of reason I don't edition. Another reason is that a few years ago I sold out an edition of 100 that would have made me a lot more money had it been open.
My mostly middle class buyers don't really care about editions. And those few that ask are asking simply because they think they should, but they could actually care less. Those folks are just as happy with a serial number or a signature with dedication scribbled on the back.
The decision to do editions is also a decision to pursue a market where the implications of editions genuinely matter. That would be mostly collectors and investors, or people who need the (usually delusional) budget rationalization that they are making an investment. The atmosphere in those elevated places is very thin. Bottom line for me is that for my particular market, losing images to end-of-edition is a bad thing.
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February 03, 2013, 03:41:52 PM »
There's also the ongoing lawsuit with the release of new, very large, William Eggleston prints last Spring.
Here's some recent comments on the issue:
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 03, 2013, 09:41:46 PM »
To me it's a question of integrity and is based on the image itself ... doesn't matter if you redo it in the future. To be honest and fair when "limiting" an edition you should make written and legal full disclosure when the image is offered as to what will be produced, and no changes after. Whether you are offering multiple sizes, each size limited to a number, or just a total printing regardless of size probably isn't as important as just doing what you say you are going to do before you sell the first print.
While certainly the concept is about artificially creating more value, to some limiting editions are effective, as they not only limit editions but also increase prices as the edition sells out. Peter Lik and Rodney Lough come to mind. I guess if you are actually "collected" and can do it, nothing wrong with it (as long as they do it fairly and honestly. I have an issue with Peter Lik because he doesn't number his prints as they are sold, but you get to "pick" your number ...and he charges premiums for some numbers. To me if it says 100/950 that not only means it's a limited edition of 950, but it's also the 100th print sold in the edition Not so with Lik - you want #777 no problem just play about $30k extra. It's usually one of the first prints made in his editions.)
For most however , (such as myself) limited editions seem to have little value.
However, that being said, I do offer much of my work as "limited" edition. The challenge is the concept of limited editions is more a part of the overall "art" market - photographers didn't invent it but have had to accept it as the way things are done in much of the art world. Many venues will not consider artists/photographers who do not offer limited editions, that's the only reason I have some of my work as limited.
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February 04, 2013, 03:26:52 AM »
I still like the concept where the print is not limited but the price increases with every print run. Say an affordable first 5 or 10 for the ones that dare, the next 5 or 10 with a 25 or 50% price increase and etc etc. If the image is worth it everyone in that scheme is rewarded, the early buyer, the collector, the artist. The deal has to be transparent from the start to everyone. Prints numbered and signed. The artist should have the freedom to develop the image in time and smaller and larger prints possible in that arrangement, the sizes calculated in the price but the price increase more dominant. The ridiculous pricing at auctions gets a ceiling by this scheme and there is a chance for everyone to have that image on the wall for the price that it is worth. It will fix the actual value of the image better than normal unlimited prints or a limited edition run will.
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February 04, 2013, 12:36:02 PM »
I'm usually dealing with painters in the gallery I help manage in California. Here, painters put a "Certificate of Authenticity" on their "giclee" prints. What a bunch of nonsense. These are inkjet copies. Just as with the "limited edition" rules, where the loopholes make a joke of them, the rules and terminology appear on their face to be designed from the outset to mislead potential buyers. A sophisticated buyer of photography better have a clear understanding of exactly what s/he is buying if there is any representation of the print being a unique product. That said, I will probably have an edition of 1 for sale in my upcoming show. For that I'll be very clear as to what I mean -- the specific paper (Arches watercolor, not inkjet paper) and size (larger than a full sheet).
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 04, 2013, 12:39:02 PM »
I notice John Paul Caponigro increases his price by 25% for each of an edition of 10, so that #1 is $2000, and #10 is $14,900. Or, you can close out the edition at any time by buying a print for $15,000. The term is "escalated pricing." Being on the seller side of the equation I in some ways like that, but putting myself on the buyer side I wonder if that wouldn't be a little stressful or even discouraging for a dedicated collector.
But good grief! Peter Lik and Thomas Kinkade and many others with "editions" of 950 or so? Are buyers really that clueless? Well apparently they are, at least in those kinds of numbers. It's kind of like if you send out a few million emails begging people to accept $1,000,000, and 1 or 2 will bite. I learn something every day.
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Re: Thoughts on what "limited edition" mean
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February 04, 2013, 03:18:31 PM »
Quote from: Ernst Dinkla on February 04, 2013, 03:26:52 AM
I still like the concept where the print is not limited but the price increases with every print run. Say an affordable first 5 or 10 for the ones that dare, the next 5 or 10 with a 25 or 50% price increase and etc etc. If the image is worth it everyone in that scheme is rewarded, the early buyer, the collector, the artist.
I've always like this approach as well, and in fact think the ideal scenario is editions are maybe like books. You print an "edition" of "x" prints, all at the same time. When you sell out you can print another edition with appropriate increase in price. Perhaps a little hard to identify on the front of a print ...
Problem is most art shows want what is typical of artists and the reproductive "glicee" market Paul mentioned. They just want to see a hard cap on the total prints.
Quote from: bill t. on February 04, 2013, 12:39:02 PM
But good grief! Peter Lik and Thomas Kinkade and many others with "editions" of 950 or so? Are buyers really that clueless? Well apparently they are, at least in those kinds of numbers. It's kind of like if you send out a few million emails begging people to accept $1,000,000, and 1 or 2 will bite. I learn something every day.
As far as the total number in an edition, I guess I really don't have a problem with big editions for those whose work is popular. Lik has sold out one print in as little as 36 hours, so it seems he's created a demand and market for what he does. For someone creating a limit that has no chance of ever selling out might be a little bit of a stretch, so I guess each artist can limit his edition sizes based on his own market, or the value they're trying to create.
To me one of the assumptions a buyer makes when purchasing a "limited" edition print is that some day there is a good chance the edition will sell out, theoretically making their "investment" more valuable. Maybe Lik's been able to reach that point even though his limit is 950. Kinkade has certainly sold out of a lot of pieces, although as the owner of a couple of those older works, I can say with certainty this does little to enhance value. Of course, some of the issues with his operation later in his life also hurt the value.
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February 04, 2013, 10:55:38 PM »
It's interesting to watch the listings of Lik pieces on online auction sites like ebay (search the completed listings) and artbrokerage.com. Quite a few pieces up for resale, over a surprising range of prices for the same piece. I have been watching some specific pieces for quite some time, and their doesn't seem to be much action even at the lowest prices. Good retail marketing rules the day, and if possible locate your gallery in gambling casinos not far from the nearest wet bar, and by all means keep promises of appreciation on the verbal plane only, and out of earshot of witnesses.
As an aside, it's also fun to read the ebay item titles of landscape photographers offering a Lik "Card" along with their non-Lik pieces, to exploit the Lik name in title searches. Ya gotta know the tricks. Funny how nobody does that for me.
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Looking at our reservation book, I can see the early birds have been calling steadily already. We are far from full in late September and early October but we are close enough now that you should make lodging reservations very soon for the last week in September and first two weeks of October (maybe a week later in southern Vermont). Fall foliage is our busiest time of year and if you want to find a place to stay, especially on weekends, you should decide now.
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People are valuable. But are certain people more valuable than others? If yes; can we measure this?
Questions I raised when I asked myself this question:
- Do people know what is best for themselves?
- Is there really such a thing as universal worth of a person?
- What, really, are credentials?
- Are people really good and/or bad?
- Are Myers Briggs personality type differences causing me (or you) to believe another person is worth less than me (or you)?
- Is it possible to measure the worth of a person retrospectively?
- Does answering the first question with a yes make me (or you) pretentious?
- Am I going to answer this question by generalizing and placing people into categories and become a statistician; labeling everyone possessing a certain characteristic as less valuable?
- Is it possible to spend "too much" time thinking about questions like these? Less think, more do?
- Breadth of a person or depth of a person?
- Best way to test a person's value is to test their ability to lead?
- A great follower is better than an average leader?
- Why does linguistic ability play such a large role in determining the value of a person? Is it overvalued?
- Does most of society not realize it's answering this question in the affirmative with most of its actions, and by extension raising a lot of unanswered, difficult questions? eg, job interviews, exams, tests, college applications, credit.
- Do xNTP's not realize that the rest of the world doesn't believe that intelligence is the main factor to contribute to a person's worth?
- Is the person reading this going to realize that this is my first TED question?
Please don't bother answering all of the additional questions unless you truly have nothing better to do with your time. :P
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Apr 11 2012: We are all valuable is different ways. no one is more valuable then other.
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problems starts when we think someone is less then us.
Apr 11 2012: That's all great and all.. But you are looking at it from the wrong angle.
Is there anyone in the world, present or past, you consider better than yourself? Who is, overall, a better person? Than in my construed use of the word "valuable", that person is more "valuable" than you.
So how do we make ourselves more valuable? This is my question. How do we get certain people to believe that what they're doing would make them appear, in the eyes of a "good" stranger, to be less valuable than they could, potentially, be?
The reform I'm thinking of would involve drafting a number of things that make people great - and allow everyone to aspire to these things, rather than tell people they are already "great" and "special". Yes, everyone is great and special, people really are amazing and awesome, until you meet a racist, a pedophile, or a serial killer who killed his inmate in prison - is it hard for some people to admit that there are "bad" people in the world?Apr 10 2012: every value is subjective. the value of a chocolate bar, a piece of fabric or a cellphone makes only sense for a certain individual, we can't measure that. similarly, the value of a person in your life is personal.
there is no such thing as value for the society. we often say "society chooses", but it is only a statistical statement, and means that most people or a majority vote or something like that. behind "social choice", there is a system of individual choices.
so if you ask the right question "are certain people more valuable for me?", the answer becomes straightforward.
Apr 10 2012: Please read the other two answers - and view my question as progressive rather than undeveloped.
Timeline of (some random) society, from (some time in the) past to present-
Society does not think together
People are racist
People hate those of lower social standing, for no reason at all, although they will have excuses (eg, they are dirty, one of them once did such and such, etc)
Public view is now very against being judgemental, in any way at all
Nobody judges anyone else, for any action they commit, unless the people "know" each other (whatever that means)
Suddenly everyone's a good guy
We turn prisons into "rehabilitation centers", and abolish any punishment considered "too brutal" - prisoners who leave prisons are very likely to return on new charges; very few prisoners are reformed, unfortunately
Crime rates go up for no apparent reason; nobody wants to link crime rates to softer punishments
Society as a whole starts to stagnate; self help becomes a market of its own because when people don't know what they want from others, they don't know what they want to be
^ something like that is my chain of thought.
I don't strongly believe anything I have said in this comment, and it's just a viewpoint that I am experimenting with. AKA let's blame society's problems on the liberals.Apr 10 2012: It depends how you define value and in what context.
If you are in a fight for your life, a good fighter is more valuable than an old lady.
If you are in hospital and sick a doctor is more valuable than the janitor.
Maybe in these cases value = useful
We don't all have equal capabilities - potential, education, skills but it is dangerous to value human life on a scale.
We should aspire to respect all humans equally as a starting point. Some people through there actions show they do not respect others and they should be managed appropriately. Its a two way street. Do unto others, but don't be a punching bag. Also I'd rather go to the dentist for a filling rather than a plumber but respect both as humans.
Otherwise, you might value one race or sex or group over others.
But as individuals, we should be realistic about their capabilities, integrity, behaviour etc.
Apr 10 2012: Mhmm; people are good at different things, some are better at certain things than others.
I'm not asking about this though. I'm not asking questions like whether males are better suited to certain things than females, or the other way round. Respect is something else, I feel you completely misunderstood what I was trying to ask.
I am asking about the essence of a person - we can all agree that, in retrospect, a person like Ghandi helped global society as a whole much more than the average commoner. Does this make a person worth more?
Are we reducing ourselves to functional roles? i.e, a person is valuable if he/she fulfills their function well. Ghandi was a leader, and a good leader, he's worth more than a bad leader like Bashar al Assad. But we can't compare Ghandi to a shoemaker, because they fulfill different roles in society, and they could both be very good at what they're doing. Is this wrong? I believe it is, because it doesn't allow people to explore possibilities. Looking at people in retrospect this *might* work... Nah. It won't.
Anyways, I'll let you reframe your answer if you so wish. I'm raising this question because judging people is so taboo in today's society for good reason; people like to pretend they don't do it. Perhaps it isn't that bad though, and would help us realize what it is we want from people in society, and what people want from their own lives.
Apr 15 2012: I think you get my point about respect for human life versus capability.
My trivial examples can be expanded to cover Gandhi.
He was just one person just as entitled to life, liberty, pursuit if happiness, a vote etc as any other.
But more capable of making a huge positive impact on society.
So perhaps you can say he made a more valuable contribution than most.
The taboo you raise is interesting. I note we all make initial assumptions based on appearance, age, race. clothes, speaking - later on by behaviour and results. Stereotypes and intuition have a place in evolution, and perhaps in modernlife, but we need to keep them in check in most situations until we get more objective facts.
However, the reality is people who are disliked although performance is good in terms of business outcomes will struggle more. We are tribal, we may struggle with diversity etc. But that is no excuse for challenging these paradigms. Whether black, white, male female, young or old, we should try come back to the individuals fitness for the task/role.
There is just a balance in there to be found in each situation.Apr 13 2012: we look for leaders who can show us how he or she can either help us avoid or survive a difficult situation how we chose that person is either their past performance or as is the case most times they sell us on the idea that they have the answer and as is the case most times we are making this decision when things are critical human nature almost always seems to realize or starts to see what is happening too late then we start to look for a savior so instead of using logic we use fear and call it logical and sometimes we make the right choice and we pat ourselves on the back and call ourselves smart but if we make the wrong choice we bemoan our fate and blame the one we chose for not doing the right thing human nature so even though your question has merit it can not have merit when confronted by human nature
Apr 14 2012: Mr. Mitsias....thoroughly enjoyed reading your comment, thank you.
Apr 10 2012: We 'measure' the value of people every day. Is this person 'worth' talking to, Is that applicant 'worth' the position, Are 'these people worth' my time, Is this country or that country 'worth' saving or destroying. To hold something of value is to consider it's use, admiration, or cost. The question itself is dehumanizing, yet a daily reality. But we get caught up in the question, dont' we? We start to believe that we can ask such a question as: 'Are certain people more valuable than others?'. We do this, in my opinion, because we have to 'run' things. Society has to function. So we catagorize and make comparisons between each other so we can function at our highest capability. But then, that's how we see our reality, and forget the impossibility of asking such a question in the first place. We then wonder why things are the way they are.
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Apr 11 2012: Exactly my line of thinking. I don't think it's OK to say that certain people have value and others don't, but it is how society perceives its members. Every single person I have had the pleasure of getting to know well in my life has turned out to be beautiful - but maybe that's because I generally won't try to get to know people who I don't consider "worth my time", even though many of them are valuable members of society.
I look at it this way - I have a certain amount of time in my life where I will have the pleasure of talking to people, and I might as well talk to people who I "enjoy" talking with. Is this wrong?
Apr 12 2012: Thnx Shariq for responding. This subject is tough for me. On one hand, we have to live day to day, decide how and with whom we spend our time and effort. On the other hand, we have to see people for who they really are, beneath the publicly acceptable persona - and many are just not talented at it! So we 'write some off' because of what they've displayed, or we accept someone because of what they've displayed but come to find out later something different. Maybe this is a side-bar of Dr. ML King's 'content of character' theme. This then 'circles back' to your theme of how to 'value' people. But I have a very (too) extreme distaste of exclusivity. It seems easier to say that someone's not included than to deal with their different views as part of the group. Thnx again.Apr 10 2012: Things I feel contribute to our worth; none alone make one valuable/of less worth, but together they do affect how others view us:
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- Aristotle's virtues? I am not an Aristotelian, but that's a pretty good list lolApr 10 2012: People in general know the price of things.....
when it comes to humans, society wants us to believe that we can have a "net worth"....
No one person is really more valuable than another in the long run.
Already it has been stated that at certain moments in one's life we find
some individuals more valuable than others....but that is strictly when we
are facing a need....(a plumber, or a doctor)
We are all precious, and valuable.......
with or without money,
with or without a college degree,
with or without the latest model of any gizmo or gadget,
with or without a limb,
with or without a membership to any given club,
with or without __________ (fill in the blank yourself)
I think perhaps this is where your question is leading.
We all have the same value and what's more, we all have valuable things to contribute to society as a whole.
We are all worth the same thing.....and when we die, we go back to dust.
The rest is vanity.
This is my humble opinion
Apr 10 2012: Read some of my other answers - I feel this viewpoint is a very new one, and has not existed in flourishing societies in the past. Yes, when judging other people, we must definitely believe they are valuable, and I do, and most normal people do, I would think.
The question is not whether they're valuable or not valuable - the question is how valuable we are.
John The Ripper as a member of society - do we want more John The Rippers? Do we want more Einsteins?
By shying away from the real answer to these questions, are liberals stunting development? (make everyone feel they're special, and so people don't work as hard anymore)
Again, I'm just experimenting with this. Don't judge me!! :P
Apr 10 2012: Shariq, no judgment from me... :)
There are things we know about people who develop the kinds of personality traits that lead them to be murderers.....
We just don't know EVERYTHING about someone's past and/or their brain function....as when someone acts a certain way because they have brain damage and so forth.
Special to me denotes uniqueness,....each of us is different/unique......
You can talk in circles around your question with no end in sight.
Let me just close by saying that each human decides how to be valuable to:
1...him/her self
Even here on TED, some members graciously contribute answers to people's questions, even when the host doesn't make a single reply............You have shown by replying to us, that our answers, and by extension, we ourselves are valuable to you. That, my dear Shariq, makes you a very valuable person to me.
Have a great great evening wherever you are...
Apr 11 2012: Well it isn't evening yet, but more than one evening has passed since you replied.
Like I said in another reply, this question isn't one that can be answered by a few people on a TED conversation. It's just something I'd like people to ponder about more - by saying we're all "the same", we're suggesting no one is better than us. I'll develop this point further in a reply above this.
And in reply to your reply - yes, you are completely correct, and I completely agree with you. I am a very valuable person and all. Lol JK. As in, our value often is derived from how others perceive us. This is definitely how society is run in today's world - but perhaps there is more to being valuable than being valuable to others? Considering one's self valuable? Self esteem? What about that?
I hope you too have a great day/evening Mary. :)Apr 12 2012: OK.....I bowed out a few minutes ago....but here you ask questions I will answer.
Self-esteem most definitely helps an individual transmit a sense of self-worth...as a quote I love says: "If you place little value on yourself, rest assure noone will raise the price".
I think that we have no control of how others perceive us. Just the other day I overheard a mom tell her daughter: "why don't you color your hair, you have too much grey, you need to like nice". The daughter replied: "you will love me more without grey hair?.....I love my grey hair, it's a shame you will not accept me the way I am".
People, envious, ignorant people will have us believe we have no value, because we don't live up to THEIR standards......it is a way of controlling others.
But we all have valuable things to offer any government or corporation. From the men and women who clean toilets, to the paper pushers....well now I guess it's button pushers and mouse clickers.
I guess, for me, knowing God values me, makes me value myself. I don't consider anyone more valuable than me....really, I don't. I think we all have different gifts, and use them different ways.
I will close with a story (a true one)
A lady once had a job at a hotel cleaning rooms. She did such a great job, that after a few weeks the supervisor wanted to promote her to an office clerk. She declined and said, "many other individuals have been working here longer than me and deserve that promotion. In my opinion, I do the most important job at this hotel. I make beds and keep rooms tidy and clean. When a guest arrives, he doesn't care how orderly the office is, he wants to relax in a comfy room." In that lady's opinion, the most valuable job was hers...humble, but nevertheless valuable.
I'm not at all sure I have addressed your questions the way you have wanted, I hope I have shed some light, even if dim, into your topic.
Be Well ShariqApr 10 2012: Well, this is a very intricate question with a very broad variety of aspects to take into consideration. In my personal opinion, you can measure the value of an individual based in the impact of his actions in society. In fact, we do this all the time, people with great impact (at any level -politicians, artists, entrepreneurs, religious), are admired, protected and followed in our society. This meaning that rest of us consciously or unconsciously price them over rest of common people, and this is because of the amount of people their actions can reach. So, the value of a person (speaking not only in the material sense, but also spiritually) can be measured; if in any given circumstance, society should decide who to protect or who to keep alive between someone who's actions impact many people or someone who's actions impact a small amount, the first one would be the only viable choice due to collectivism. The good thing is that we all have the potential to become valuable and therefore a viable choice to society.
Apr 10 2012: Yes, it's not something that can be answered in one go. I raised this question thinking perhaps someone may have something very good to add to my chain of thought; something I'm missing. I think this is the only answer that actually understands what I was trying to ask.
I'll try asking the question again:
People in recent times have come to the conclusion that racism, sexism, or any form of judging people based on a characteristic not chosen by the people being judged is COMPLETELY WRONG.
Everyone's happy.
A few years later, we start to get confused. Society is scared to acknowledge that it is judging people (for very valid reasons) - but it is judging people (not by race/gender/class, but by, for example, testing their "scholastic aptitude" via the SAT and judging their scholastic aptitude by this) - and that's why society is confused.
It is considered plain wrong to judge people - and even though society does it all the time, we don't like to discuss how we do it. There is nothing wrong with judging people - if I see a teen swear at his parents, and another teen treat their parents with respect, I *will* judge the former as being less valuable to society than the latter. I am not going to spend a month stalking both of the teenagers to make sure my judgement was justified, and I am not going to completely ignore what happened because I'm scared of judging the two teens. If I spend a month stalking both of the teenagers, I'll spend a whole lot of my time worrying about things that don't concern me. If I completely ignore what just happened; I lose part of my humanity - I lose empathy.
Empathy is more than feeling pity - empathy is also to dislike a person who is doing something you consider hurtful to society - but not an ironclad hate, that never goes away, and not a hidden hate that nobody ever knows about. Rather, an empathetic person would walk up to a member of society doing something the empathetic person does not agree with, and advise said member.Apr 10 2012: ^ I hope whoever reads that gains some insight from it, because I don't really have a conclusion or answer to the question, and most of that is just musing >_
Apr 10 2012: I really liked reading through your muses......I think that perhaps your using the word valuable might not be good vocabulary Shariq.
Look, a long time ago, I read an interview from an author. She had hosted a dinner party for friends. During the dinner party, someone said a racist joke. Immediately, she told the person to leave her home.
She then said in the interview...."when people show you who they are, believe them".
In my opinion, it isn't that the person is not valuable......the author "chose" to not be around a racist person. To another racist person, the remark would have elicited a laugh.....but to a person who views everyone alike, the remark showed a lack of love and so she made the person leave.
I think that we know what we stand for, and then choose to be around people with the same morale, goals, lifestyles as us. Not because they are more or less valuable, but because they make us more comfortable.
And, of course, members of society who want to cause harm to others have to be dealt with.
And, I don't lose empathy. I feel saddened when someone chooses to act in a way that has serious repercussions......my desire is for people to notice their bad ways.......but unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately, we have free will. So, I can only be responsible for MY actions, and words. Isn't that a good thing?
Here's to you......
Apr 11 2012: I used the word "valuable" because I feel that it's the next stage of my argument - certain people (should) have intrinsic value, from the point of view of a government or other seemingly objective entity.
Remember, I did not ask why a certain person is less valuable than another - I asked why a certain person is more valuable than another. There is a huge difference - one question would appear in court, and the other would appear on TED.
I'm trying to look at this from the point of view of (as above) a seemingly objective entity, be it a government or corporation.Apr 12 2012: Aah, from the point of view of a government, or corporation.
Well, since I do not represent a government or corporation...........I politely bow out.
And, I did not know governments and corporations were objective entities. Hmm
Apr 12 2012: "seemingly objective"
Because I like the idea of a meritocracy :)Apr 9 2012: No and no. Do you know of ACIM? Look up "special".
Apr 9 2012: I don't think you read as deep as I wanted you to into the questions I posted.
The obvious answer is no, but doesn't society do just that all the time?
And is it, perhaps, a way to cause people to better themselves?
Is it just a personality type conflict that causes you to think this?
Apr 10 2012: I'm serious...I actually went way deep.... Do you know ACIM? Look up what it says about "special" in relation to our feelings about people - and enter the metaphysical rabbit hole.
It'll blow your mind - hopefully. Enjoy the ride :-)
Apr 10 2012: Alright, I will.
Would a person who enters the metaphysical rabbit hole be worth more than a person who doesn't ? ;p


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I've been trying to recreate a dill dip that I purchased at an Interation Bazaar thats held here in Germany on our Air Force Base and have yet to do it...untill I found THIS recipe! Not only did it satisfy my craving for a good dill dip.. this one is BETTER. I added 1/2 teaspoon of garlic powder just to give it that *extra* kick. I really think that the key to this dip is letting it sit at LEAST 3-4 hours. I tasted it right after I made it and it was good...but after I let it sit, it was amazing. I'm ashamed to say I ate all of it with a bag of pretzles for dinner, LOL!
This was not a good recipe as is. I had to add more seasonings and dill to get some flavor. It had too strong of a sour cream taste, like a flavored sour cream. It wasn't so tasty.
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I used 2 tsp dried dill since i didn't have fresh dill on hand. I tasted it when I mixed all the ingredients together and I thought I wouldn't like it, but once refrigerated, all the tastes blend perfectly well. You really have to refrigerate it first. Guests liked it too!!
I LOVE it - even BEFORE letting it sit for a few hours in the refrigerator. I didn't have any fresh dill on hand, so I used 2 tsp of dried dill weed instead. I also took another reviewers tip and used 1/2 tsp of garlic powder which really made quite a difference in giving a little something more.
Excellent recipe!! I'm just waiting for my husband to wake up from a nap so he can try it for himself!
I used reduced fat sour cream/mayonnaise. I made no other changes. Very "dill-y" which I really liked. NOTE: The longer this dip sits, the better it is.
This recipe is good on fish (cod, snapper, etc)and I have even used it on pork chops. I bake both types of "meat" in the oven in a shallow dish. Just spread it on fish at the beginning of the cooking process or on pork half way through, after you flip it. Would probably work on chicken, too, just like the pork.
This is a very good, simple sauce. It is excellent with salmon and tuna, as well as vegetables. I served it with salmon and steamed asparagus. It's light and flavorful. Thanks for the recipe!
This is a very easy and simple recipe, and it tastes great! I didn't have any fresh dill, so I used the dried kind, except I halved the amount called for. I tasted it right after I mixed it and could only taste the sour cream, but after I let it sit over night it was awesome! So much flavor! I brought it to a dinner party and the kids only wanted to eat the dip off their carrots, rather than bite into them as well! I will definitely be using this recipe again when I have a dinner party.
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So you've gotten a
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Alex Galchenyuk (MON)
He went undrafted in
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Through six games, he's tallied 6 points, and he's still only averaging
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Women's tennis earns several victories at College of Charleston Tournament of Champions
Saturday, October 30, 2010
MT. PLEASANT, S.C. (Oct. 29, 2010) - The ETSU women's tennis team picked up seven victories during the opening day of the College of Charleston Tournament of Champions, Friday afternoon at the C of C Tennis Center.
ETSU's Kelly Holtzhausen(Johannesburg, South Africa)defeated Marija Dzakovic of Charleston Southern 6-2, 6-7, 1-0 (5), in flight one play. In flight two, Paula Jaime (Madrid, Spain) defeated Brooke Pletcher of Charleston Southern 6-3, 6-2, while Diana Navrostska (Lviv, Ukraine) knocked off Angie Torres of Charleston Southern in the third flight.
Freshman Giulia Andreazza (Balneario Camboriu, Brazil) and senior Andra Voinea (Brasov, Romania) both earned victories as well for the Bucs. Andreazza defeated Susita Das of Charleston Southern 7-5, 0-6, 1-0 (6). Voinea knocked off Heather Isbell 6-1, 0-6, 1-0 (8).
The Bucs also got two victories in doubles play as Holtzhausen and Jaime defeated Hayman and Viana from College of Charleston 8-2. Jamie and Navrostska downed the Charleston Southern duo of Das and Pletcher 8-4.
The event will continue tomorrow beginning at 9 a.m.
For more information on the ETSU women's tennis team please go to ETSUBucs.com and click on the women's tennis link. Also, be sure to follow ETSU Athletics on Facebook and Twitter.
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Flight #1
Kelly Holtzhausen (ETSU) def. Marija Dzakovic (CSU), 6-2, 6-7, 1-0 (5).
Christin Newman (CofC) def. Kelly Holtzhausen (ETSU), 6-4, 6-4.
Alida Muller-Wehlau (AASU) def. Kelly Kambourleis (CofC), 6-4, 6-0.
Flight #2
Paula Jaime (ETSU) def. Brooke Pletcher (CSU), 6-3, 6-2.
Emma Hayman (CofC) def. Paula Jaime (ETSU), 6-2, 4-6, 1-0 (7).
Daria Sekaina (SCSU) def. Marija Dzakovic (CSU), 7-6 (3), 6-1.
Flight #3
Diana Navrotska (ETSU) def. Angie Torres (CSU), 1-6,6-3, 1-0 (5).
Caroline Newman (CofC) def. Diana Navrotska (ETSU), 6-0, 6-0.
Barbora Krtickova (AASU) def. Brooke Pletcher (CSU), 6-0, 6-2.
Flight #4
Andra Voinea (ETSU) def. Heather Isbell (unattached), 6-1, 0-6, 1-0 (8).
Katie Lee (CofC) def. Andra Voinea (ETSU), 6-3, 6-0.
Akilah James (SCSU) def. Angie Torres (CSU), 7-5, 6-1.
Flight #5
Giulia Andreazza (ETSU) def. Susita Das (CSU), 7-5, 0-6, 1-0 (6).
Jamie Harrell (CofC) def. Giulia Andreazza (ETSU), 7-6, 6-2.
Joanna Szymczyk (AASU) def. Heather Isbell (unattached), 6-3, 6-0.
Flight #6
Irene Viana (CofC) def. Laura Bosneag (SCSU), 6-7 (7), 6-3, 1-0 (3).
Flight #8
Susita Das (CSU) def. Jessica Gardefjord (AASU), 1-6, 6-4, 1-0 (7).
Flight #1
Krtickova-Muller-Wehlau (AASU) def. Hayman-Viana (CofC), 8-5.
Isbell (unattached)-Torres (CSU) def. Holtzhausen-Kedzo (ETSU), 8-2.
Holtzhausen-Jamie (ETSU) def. Hayman-Viana (CofC), 8-2.
Krtickova-Mullen-Wehlau (AASU) def. Kambourelis-Christin Newman (CofC), 8-3.
Flight #2
Kambourelis-Christin Newman (CofC) def. Craciun-Sekerina (SCSU), 8-5.
Jaime-Navrotska (ETSU) def. Das-Pletcher (CSU), 8-4.
Casey-Harrell (CofC) def. Navrotska-Sheets (ETSU), 8-3.
Craciun-Sekerina (SCSU) def. Isbell (unattached)-Torres (CSU), 8-2.
Flight #3
Bosneag-James (SCSU) def. Lee-Caroline Newman (CofC), 8-6.
Lee-Caroline Newman (CofC) def. Andreazza-Voinea (ETSU), 8-0.
Gardefjord-Szymczyk (AASU) def. Das-Pletcher (CSU), 9-7.
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The Pirelli tyres are once again in the headlines for the wrong reasons following two failures in practice at Spa.
Red Bull duo Sebastian Vettel, Fernando Alonso from Ferrari, Lewis Hamilton from Mercedes as well as McLaren's Jenson Button are among a group of drivers who have expressed concern after problems on Friday.
Vettel and Alonso both suffered blowouts and the drivers have demanded reassurances that there will be no repeat for the rest of the weekend.
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.Mitt Romney may have graciously conceded the election to President Obama Tuesday night, but some conservative pundits and bloggers didnt accept defeat quite as calmly.
Donald Trump made some of the most controversial comments of the night, calling the election a total sham and a travesty on Twitter.
We cant let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty, he wrote. Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.
He deleted others that called for revolution, which he wrote when he thought Romney won the popular vote but lost the electoral college.
Rocker and Romney supporter Ted Nugent also went on a Twitter tirade.
Pimps whores & welfare brats & their soulless supporters hav (sic) a president to destroy America, he wrote. Goodluk (sic) America u just voted for economic & spiritual suicide. Soulless fools.
Another dramatic reaction came from conservative radio host Bryan Fischer who compared the vote to an infamous attack on America.
Today was Pearl Harbor. Tomorrow we begin planning for Normandy, he wrote.
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Top Hat Guy
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In Comic 3, as Beaver is about to inspect Steve's stomach a Top Hat Guy emerges from Steve's mouth and states "Hey pal, how about a little goddam privacy?"
Later, in Comic 35, it is come to be known that there is also a demon living in Steve's stoumach.
Later again, in Comic 102 we get a look inside's Steve's Digestive Tract, yet catch no glimpse of Top Hat Guy. It is presumed he has moved out somewhere between Comic 3 and Comic 35, since he did not get the goddam privacy he wanted.


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Sunday, March 17, 2002Blacksburg, Va. (March 17, 2002) -The 74th-ranked Virginia Tech Hokies defeated East Tennessee State 6-1 Sunday afternoon at the Burrows-Burleson Tennis Center. Virginia Tech swept all three doubles matches and won five of the six singles matches to claim the victory. Ines Khelifi, ranked No. 83 in the latest Omni Hotel/Intercollegiate Tennis Association rankings, Jessica Irey (Clewiston, Fla.) in the No. 1 singles match 6-1, 6-1 while Ginger Lowdermilk cruised past Tatiana Arriaran (Cochabamba, Bolivia) at the No. 3 position 6-1, 6-4. Carolyn Kramer won at No. 4 over Aimee Villavicencio (Lexington, Ky.) 6-3, 6-2 and Zdenka Videnova defeated Heather Jones (Elizabethton, Tenn.) in the No. 5 match 6-1, 6-0. Bridget Bruner won her No. 6 match by default. ETSU's lone win of the day occurred at No. 2 where Meredith Vincent dropped a 4-6, 6-1, 6-2 decision to Gemma Halim (Jakarta, Indonesia). The Hokies opened the day with three doubles wins as Khelifi and Lowdermilk blanked Irey and Halim in the No. 1 match 8-0 while Kramer and Videnova disposed of Arriaran and Villavicencio 8-4 at No. 2. Vincent and Ashleigh Sarver won by default at No. 3. The Bucs travel to Cullowhee, N. C. to take on Southern Conference opponent Western Carolina at 3:00 p.m. on Monday, March 18th. #74 Virginia Tech 6, East Tennessee State 1 SINGLES 1. #83 Ines Khelifi (VT) def. Jessica Irey (ETSU) 6-1, 6-1 2. Gemma Halim (ETSU) def. Meredith Vincent (VT) 4-6, 6-1, 6-2 3. Ginger Lowdermilk (VT) def. Tatiana Arriaran (ETSU) 6-1, 6-4 4. Carolyn Kramer (VT) def. Aimee Villavicencio (ETSU) 6-3, 6-2 5. Zdenka Videnova (VT) def. Heather Jones (ETSU) 6-1, 6-0 6. Bridget Bruner (VT) won by default DOUBLES 1. Khelifi/Lowdermilk (VT) def. Irey/Halim (ETSU) 8-0 2. Kramer/Videnova (VT) def. Arriaran/Villavicencio (ETSU) 8-4 3. Ashleigh Sarver/Vincent (VT) won by default
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