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- Theodore A. Hoppe
- Montpelier, VT
- United States
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What is the origin of the idea that a deity created the world?
Many attribute the creationist concept for the world's origin to the Jewish text scribed by Moses, The Book of Genesis, but what was Moses source for this story? Are there other stories about the beginning of the world that predate the Old Testament account? Please provide references and not just speculation.
Nov 1 2012: I think Douglas Adams once said something akin to "Man created god, in his image... So that he could look upon all the wonders of creation and see... himself".
Mitch SMith
Nov 1 2012: Yes - he delivered a talk about 2 days before he died - it's here on TED somewhere.
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As I recall, he ascribed the god/creation thing to the toolmaking nature of humans.
It's all conjecture, but I like his insight and style.
I particularly enjoyed his alegory of teh puddle - admiring the perfection of the ground fitting it .. right up to the last drop evaporating.
Nov 1 2012: Here it is, from the 2009 TED Global Conference:
Lejan .
Nov 2 2012: And this is even more 'on topic' of your question:
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The Origin of God - Douglas Adams
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kK1YgR7J0gNov 2 2012: I have always claimed that mankind has no comprehension of the impact vanity has on our social reasoning.
John Smith
Nov 2 2012: "Are there other stories about the beginning of the world that predate the Old Testament account?"
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Yes, ancient Egyptian, Sumerian and Hindu creation myths are older and do involve gods. People who say it all started with Moses are clearly not experts because every undergraduate archaelogy or history student would know about those older myths I listed above.
Nov 2 2012: The Hindu stories, there are several creation tales in the Veda tradition, are indeed wondrous in their ambiguity. One tale concludes with the following verse.
"Who really knows? Who here proclaim it? Whence was it produced? The gods came afterwards. Who then knows whence it has a reason. Perhaps it formed itself or perhaps it did not. The One who looks down upon it in highest heaven, only he knows, or perhaps he does not know?"Nov 2 2012: Theodore, I guess you question is rhetorical, unless you take the bible literally.
From a scientific or historical perspective I guess you need to look at the development of the Jewish/Hebrew culture as distinct or derivative from other groups.
The question then is how old are the Hebrew creation myths. What were the cultural influences on these Caananite, Bablonian
What other creation myths are we aware of. I suggest there are many just as old or older than the hebrew ones. Babylonian, Egyptian, Minoan etc
There is evidence of Neolithic cities from 10,000 years ago.
Stonehenge is 10000 years old predating the existence of the hebrews
We have Sumerian writings codified their religion 5000 years ago
Egyptian records of gods etc 4500 years ago
Evidence of Minoan religion back as far as 4200 years
First monotheism known in Egypt 3400 years ago.
Then we have writing on the Torah about 3000 years ago
How long have modern humans been around. 100,000-200,000 years.
We have 25,000 year old eve statuettes.
30,000 year old cave paintings
No details of specific creation stories that old but it is bizarre to think the hebrew creation myths are the earliest.
Every culture seems to have its own creation stories, and there are plenty of cultures predating the development of the hebrew tribes.
Hopefully a qualified anthropologist or historian can comment.
Nov 2 2012: Re:Hopefully a qualified anthropologist or historian can comment.
I am currently reading the new book by Chris Stringer, "Lone Surviver." Stringer is the world's foremost paleoanthropologist. His new book puts forward radical new theory of humanity's origin. Never before have we had the tools and the science to unlock remarkable evolutionary insights that can help us to understand why we are the only humans left on Earth.
I'll confess that this question was aimed at some of the TED commenters that do have a more religious perspective than I do. Evolution and creation have been discussed before in TED conversation, but rarely, if ever, do creationist indicate where this concept's roots come from. Those that subscribe to Abrahamic religions generally ignore the details of early history (except for the mention Adah and Zillah).
In "The History of God" by Karen Armstrong, she writes,
"Interest in Yahweh as a Creator did not enter Judaism until in exile to Babylon."Nov 2 2012: u do not have to obey, all I ask is u challenge yourself to perceive that from the very beginning we misinterpreted our existence and meaning and that is why we have no answers now, we slowly walked away from it...as told in a story...
Regardless of what understanding of God you have, our history without all the measurement and debate is a universe,including an entity which at one particular time was struck by a meteor, years later mankind appeared mumbling something about descending from the dust...the events after that although entertainingly loaded with hypocrisy are irrelevant to the number one question...Who told us we descended from the dust...ourselves?
A possibility; the earth is a living entity which as all living entities it can communicate, with animals we call it instinct which we used to work with in the beginning more so than now. So if this is true, how does it communicate...possibly through the energy that flows through us, inspiring thought which was defined as a voice in the head, religion refers to the energy as spirit.
Mitch SMith
Nov 8 2012: Hi THeo,
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I've seen a lot of discussion on this subject that might indicate the schism that fuels the Creationist phenomenon.
This line of discussion examines the advent of materialism (all things as clockwork).
Materialism is relatively recent in its mature form. The materialist viewpoint has, as part of its dynamic, the imbedded concept that all machines are "made".
This line of reasonimg would place the creationist concept as an artifact of the industrial revolution.
It's a by-product of the duality caused by the religious mind trying to justify participation in the competitive environment of capitalism.
Under that definition, all creationists are traitors to their own god .. or have simply swapped their old god for Satan.
That makes a lot of sense if you define the Judeo/Christin god as a god of abundance with Satan as the god of scarcity. Capitalism as defined by the industrial revolution perfects the art of creating abundance on one hand, and causing scarcity on the other hand by separating abundance from the community through the device of money.
Nov 8 2012: Interesting points. I like the African fractals concepts of self organization and wonder how long they have been around.
Mitch SMith
Nov 9 2012: It is clear that chaos dynamics is involved, somehow, in principles of self-organisation.
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The existence of phase-shift in chaotic fractal geometry explains a great many of the phenomena we observe.
I predict that quantum mechanics will discover that the sub atomic particle differentiations are the result of chaotic phase shifts (if they have not done so already - it's hard to keep up with the avalanche of discovery these days).
Once these dynamics become more understood and accepted in the gestalt of human knowledge, I also predict that "grain size" will become very important. At that point, we will be examining principles of resonance-based grain-size convergence in all systems. This will re-connect historical observations of harmonics through an identified causality. At that point, we will have an empirical understanding of the word "harmony" in all matters. (based on my observation of "speciation" in the realm of "harmony" that causes some difficulty in gaining clarity of discussion).
My comments on the origin of "the creator" are influence by my own work with some cross-referrence to the work of Rupert Sheldrake (who I think is wrong, but not by much). He nails it with his analysis of the history of dogma in science - which, by the way is predicted by my model - which asserts that perception is exactly the same as belief - exactly. The words are the same thing. This is amply demonstrated in the phenomenon of neural topological dynamics.
Anything that has a limit, is capable of chaotic phase shift - ironically, it may be self-limiting - obviating the need for more than one prime principle.
(edit: the old Jewish god "I am that I am" then has to be extended to state: "I am that I am, but sometimes I get in my own way.". .. )
Peter Law
Nov 2 2012: Most likely by word of mouth from Adam to his descendants.
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Nov 2 2012: So you are one of the people that take the Bible literally?
As I have noted in my comments, the concept of a "Creator" was not apart of Judaism. I sight a reference as well, the respected Karen Armstrong.
This reduces your conjecture to little more than meme that has already been dispelled and nevertheless persists.
Nov 2 2012: Hi Theodore.
I am reading Fox's Book of Martyrs at the moment. A historical account of many thousands of Christians who all died gruesome deaths rather than abandon their meme. I would pit any one of them against Karen Armstrong. Perhaps intellect by itself is insufficient ?
Nov 2 2012: This is a conversation and as such it is rude to be selective in your replies, so let's stick with the topic. Do you take the Bible literally?
Your comment is not just a meme its false unless you can refute Armstrong's claim with a reference to the contrary. Creation ex nihilo was not an official doctrine of Christianity until the Council of Nicaea in 341. Both Jewish and Muslim rationalist find this a difficult and problematic doctrine.
Fox is a wonderful scholar. If you read his book, "The Unauthorized Version" you will find numerous problems with taking the Bible literally. Pages 17 and 18 address the "two" conflicting stories of the creation found in Genesis.
Peter Law
Nov 2 2012: Hi Theodore.
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I'm sorry if I was rude, it was in ignorance. I get the impression from your posts that you operate on a higher literary plane than I ; you are obviously well read, I am just an ordinary Joe. With me a spade Is a spade.
Yes I take the bible literally. I have found that folks who do otherwise end up with interpretations which are personal to them; ie hundreds, so I have no way of assessing which would be the one to follow. I find it logical that a being capable of creating a universe would have little trouble in writing & maintaining a book with which he could communicate with his offspring. At the same time, that same book could be nonsense to those who are not his offspring.
This may seem simplistic to you, however, this same book has changed millions of lives over the piece. It works, it is unique. To me it contains all we need to know Jesus Christ, & explains what is going on around us. I doubt that I can persuade you on an intellectual basis, but Jesus didn't reach many intellectuals either, & he walked on water & raised the dead.
Sorry if I'm off-topic again, but my original reply still stands.
Nov 2 2012: Thank you so much for this honest reply. Allow me to also add that it is not my intention here to disrespect the beliefs of others. Beliefs, especially ones about religious matters, are a personal, and each of us hold steadfastly to them for good reasons and are slow to change.
There have been other discussion on this topic and I wanted to help cast the debate about creationist in a more academic light. There is much historical evidence to consider and when we open our minds to knowledge it adds to our understanding of ourselves.
Religions are social facts that bind groups in a united system of beliefs and practices. My hope is that we might be less strident in our doctrines dogmas and embrace our empathy and compassion as a shared human quality.Nov 2 2012: Have you watched Elizabeth Gilbert's "Your creative elusive genius" on TED?
I think this very much relates.
I think human's innately create these protective psychological constructs: 'religions/all knowing deities etc' because assimilating existence is just too much for us sometimes.Nov 2 2012: Lets take an example.
A bird, a bird have wings, feathers, etc. When you observe that bird, closely you find out that any single detail in the physical design of that bird has a "purpose", even the color of the feathers is no "coincidence". Even under the wings some feathers have different colored patterns. And those patterns are not simple fashion, are there for a reason, are needed or used for something.
After all this observations i think to myself "wow this bird cannot be the result of an erratic set of chemical reactions that gave birth to the first bacteria, that then after millions of years evolved into the wonderful life forms we see now." Maybe someone sparked that set of chemical reactions knowing what was going to be the actual result.
Nov 2 2012: Someone?
Why not something?
Our brains have within them the ability to find agency. This is why can we see faces and life forms in clouds.
Your notion of a "someone" maybe the product of outside influences that were never questioned
Nov 3 2012: First of all, thanks for your reply.
Re: "Why not something?"
Well "someone" or "something" are both plausible. "Someone" works for me based on the degree of efficiency, performance or good design of most living entities in this world. Even the smallest of insects has a "duty" or purpose. Nature, is like a Swiss clock. All species, work together in some sort of harmony. There are species made to control the overpopulation of others, there are species specialized in pollination, species specialized in spreading seeds from trees and carrying them away and this seeds grow somewhere else to give new trees. As i see it the balance of Nature is something close to perfection and such design may not be product of "something". And about evolution, it may sound strange but. I think all living creatures may evolve, and must evolve, because we all have the ability to "adapt" to new conditions. A single example, is that, the human body at sea level works in one way, but if i move to a location 5000 meters above sea level the same human body, will do something to "adjust" to the new air pressure and the new level of oxygen.
And maybe this process, from bacteria to homo sapiens is the right thing. But now my question is why so many ancient writers depict the creation in the same manner. Many of them say that life came from the water, or from earth. and now science is pointing in that direction.
By the way this conversation is awesome and there should be a way to extend it, 6 days is not enough for this kind of topic, i have read wonderful arguments from both sides and even though many of us have different opinions, it has been an enriching experience.Nov 2 2012: A bird is beautiful, no doubts, and perfectly designed for flying. And the reason why it is this way and lacking elephant legs, is, because, if it had those legs, it could not fly - and, as a side effect, elephants could not walk...
Maybe someone sparked that set of chemical reactions, but what would you think of the same beautiful birds (those without elephant legs) if there wasn't anyone or anything who sparked them?
Would they be less beautiful, less valuable in their biological purpose?
If you take results to justify a creator, things get ugly pretty quickly and so gets the creator.
Why did he, she, it, they spark predators, diseases, starvation? Doesn't make much sense to create such beautiful and perfectly designed creatures to wipe some of them off, or even all of them, at times, or is there a hidden meaning or message in doing so which we just can't see? So we get to know about the existence of a or more creator(s), but we don't get to know any agenda? This is strange to me.
If I just look at nature, all I can see is a pretty violent and deadly place. If I look into space, it get's even worse. If I look at the creatures who claim to have been build after its creator, and what they actually do, I am just speechless. Hell no, I don't even wan't such a creator, and rather gof for randomness instead, as then there was no one responsible for all the mess which would just ease my mind.
Nov 3 2012: Thanks Lejan
Maybe i went short of words. My point is not on beauty but in the "design", the visual, mechanical and biological design of most life forms. Even the life forms i don't like are in this planet for a reason have a duty to perform. Even flies, or roaches, are here for a reason. And from the optics of design, are amazingly well built and fitted for what they have to do. As i wrote when replying to someone else, nature is like a Swiss clock and everything works in perfect harmony. The food chain, is not only a matter of feeding, but a matter of "population control". Even the elephant who i don't see as an ugly creature, has a duty as a part of this Swiss clock called earth. And such a perfect self sustaining system may not be the result of erratic reactions.
Nov 3 2012: And what if it was the 'result of erratic reactions'? Would it become less valuable, less meaningful, less beautiful to you?
It is interesting to me, that you compare nature with a Swiss clock in your analogy. A technical man-made device, which in terms of complexity neither reflect nor include a fraction of the original level of magnitude.
Our brains tend towards simplifications for our limited horizon of recognition and we like to draw parallels to what is more familiar to us.
So if erratic reactions form recognisable pattern to us, we get interested in its cause. Have you ever seen the shape of a human face in a textured tile of marble stone? It is an interesting effect and fun to look for those too. So once you found a 'face' it stands out of its original and surrounding pattern structure. Somewhat like 'the bunny' in the clouds effect. But would we really think, that those faces and bunnies were created on purpose and to be found by us? Without spoiling my fun in it, I don't think so.
The complexity surrounding us is beyond our imagination and our understanding of it more than fractional. We don't even understand the complexity of ourselves. Even the most simplest of our activities, like buying and selling, get unpredictable to us on large scales like the stock market. So is there a devine consciousness in trade? Well, to many there is and its manifestation is called the 'invisible hand'. Interesting to me is, that again this 'force' is 'invisible', like gods are, and different belief systems, like religions, formed around it.
As I see it, most, if not all, systems of interaction and growth in complexity form higher and intrinsic degrees of 'hyper reactions' and 'dynamic response' abilities, which, on its smallest levels, show no sign of its nature.
So a 'perfect self sustaining system' may just be 'the result of erratic reactions'.
I would not mind, would you?Nov 8 2012: Thanks to all that have contributed to this conversation.Nov 8 2012: Elohim is a plural Hebrew word that English Bible translates as "God." Many scholars have wrestled with the question of why a plural word was chosen for the name of the Creator.
The possible answer is that " the original and most high God was and is all-inclusive, collective, not separate from any of the creation, and that created beings are intrinsic portions of the Whole." Later the name of God was changed to Yahweh Elohim, which is translated as "Lord God." And later it became named. Maybe it reflects the history of human psyche , the way how we were becoming more and more rational and less and less intuitive ; in a way , it is the ' fall '.Nov 7 2012: Sub: Adhato Brahma Jijnasah
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vidyardhicosmology[dot]blogspot[dot]comNov 5 2012: I don't think that the usual contemporary concept of deity was found anywhere on the world before the Roman era.
Venerated were foremost the ancestors as the originators of life. All forces in nature were personalized as doings from spirit at which the deceased could have any influence. The idea of any ending of existence wasn't present as everything was experienced as a transitional form from one being into another.
With civilizations came pharaoh's and emperors as in Egypt and China that were thought of as born a man from heaven meaning being on earth but living in spirit.
The story of Moses is mythological an visual representation of spiritual events.Nov 5 2012: I am taking a class on Asian art history and my professor spoke about the Dravidians bringing the Vedic text to Asia from that evolved several eastern religions such as Buddhism and Hinduism.
Nov 5 2012: I'm not sure this is correct.
Draviian peoples where pushed South as Indo-Aryan peoples migrated from the Middle East into India.
Veda's were composed from knowledge they brought from the North with some Dravidian influence.Nov 2 2012: Notice that mental hospitals commonly have multiple patients who claim divinity. It seems to be a level of consciousness in the brain. As far as I can tell schizophrenia as well as manic depression have been with us since the dawn of man, some theorists argue that it is a consequence of developing language(especially in schizophrenia).
I think David Hume when he wrote An enquiry Concerning Understanding hinted that we infer a brilliant creator when we look at the universe for the same reason why when we look at a building we infer that this was created by man. I have never seen anyone build a skyscraper yet I infer that this happened due to experience. Our experience of cause and effect invariably leads us to reasoning that a superior intelligence created the universe.Nov 2 2012: Some argue that you don't necessarilly need a common ancestor to the variety of myths about creation. That we're just wired to expect similar explanations, in accord with lifestyle. The gender of the deity is one of such parameters.Nov 2 2012: It's against my religion but the idea came many years ago, I learned as far as Mayan and their deities, Aztecs,
Then there's the Greek gods and Khaos.
There are many different ideas stemming from different religionsNov 2 2012: Hi Theodore!
There are many other creation myths that are not related to Judaism, from Mayans to maori tribes.
Nice article on this from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth
Notice that I selected two cultures far apart from each other and from judaism.
List of myths http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths
Was this your point? Sorry if I got it wrong.
Ps if I'm allowed to especulate, most, if not all prescientific cultures have myth to explain creation
Nov 2 2012: Thank you for commenting, I really appreciate your contribution to the conversation.
My objective here is to compile a list of resource that can bring into question what we can realistic accept and reject in terms of popular beliefs.
For example Christians might reject Mayan gods but are unaware that their own religion accepts some of the same beliefs as a group half a world away.
Nov 2 2012: Hi Theodore!
I'm glad to be able to contribute :)
In my experience talking to religios people arguments and facts are not very relevant, and in the case you mention your Christian counterpart will likely say that all similarities are inspired by the same god (theirs) and all diferencies are inspired by the devil, or are just wrong/unengligthed.
Hopefully I'm wrong and you actually manage to have an exchange of ideas where I have failed.
JBNov 3 2012: Hi Theodore!
In case you have not seen this video, please do http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WwAQqWUkpI
That's Sapolsky talking about the origin of religion.
Priceless ...
JBNov 2 2012: You don't know. I don't know. Those who have been and gone, didn't know.
Science doesn't know. Religion doesn't know.
Stop the madness of believing in false concepts like "hope".
Stop worshiping lies.Nov 2 2012: Why is it that people get all hung up on dates and names? Take the characteristics of the male population, combine that with a developing mind with no memories/knowledge/understanding, fear, innate curiosity, excuse, power and manipulation and walk your way through the beginning of time.
Regardless of what understanding of God you have, our history without all the measurement and debate is a universe,including an entity which at one particular time was struck by a meteor, years later mankind appeared mumbling something about descending from the dust...the events after that although entertainingly loaded with hypocrisy are irrelevant to the number one question...Who told us we descended from the dust...ourselves?
A possibility; the earth is a living entity which as all living entities it can communicate, with animals we call it instinct which we used to work with in the beginning more so than now. So if this is true, how does it communicate...possibly through the energy that flows through us, inspiring thought which was defined as a voice in the head, religion refers to the energy as spirit.
I will stop there, hope this generates thought. Thank you for the opportunity to discuss,Nov 2 2012: The human desire to rather have meaning than randomness for explanation.
Deities just cover the scale of our surrounding and our difficulties in its comprehension at a given point in time. History is reference.
Nov 2 2012: Man I like what you just wrote...for me your openign remark defines what I just wrote, but yours sums it up wonderfully.
Given point in time suggests a correction in the now yet we are a community without answers. Do you feel we have answers now?
We have referenced history our entire existence, as you mentioned in the first sentence...explanation/debate is the social procrastination which offers the illusion of change only and therefor has no meaning or continuation...as if a record skipping...
Lejan .
Nov 2 2012: Have we answered the question today, if a 'diety created the world'? No we haven't, but at this 'point in time' we have less need for this question, as there are alternative explanations at hand, in science, which may fill the gap for some people.
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The idea of 'Gods' is a matter of fashion, changed over time and location, and depends only on what people are willing - or forced - to believe. Before Christianization, people who lived in this very area I live in today, believed in a multitude of gods, male and female. Odin, Donar (Thor), Tyr, Freyja, Urth, Sunna, etc. So when monotheism arrived, what happened to all of them? Did they disappear? Did they merge? Have they been an illusion only, all that time and now, since Jesus arrived, we know better? Who says that? What better proof have they than those before?
You may see were this is leading to, nothing but believe, and believe is changeable, just like fashion is.
I don't feel we have answers now, today, and science is no substitute for me on this matter. I am agnostic, as I neither have proof for nor against a god, and I consider questions of the sort of 'who created this world, solar system, universe as unrecognizable to our human minds due to the intrinsic nature, structure and limitation of our brains.
My mind can't even grasp the quantity of one billion units of whatever object, yet I should have confidence to understand the vastness and complexity which surrounds me, and, even more confidence, to have a clue about the cause of it?
As a five years old I was convinced I could fight a tiger and win. I felt that powerfull. Today I know better what my odds would have been and I also know that I will never get to know those final answers. And just assuming they would exist, I would not be able to understand them.
This by itself is 'awesome' by its once and original meaning and without the need of any spiritual makeup.
Any god was more dolphin like today if it was them who made it ...
Nov 2 2012: My sentiments exactlyNov 2 2012: Ok most people have given up after fighting with the intelligent s from before us...I am telling you we are all wrong because we were confused at the beginning...if you can please read the following and challenge yourself to comprehend...
Regardless of what understanding of God you have, our history without all the measurement and debate is a universe,including an entity which at one particular time was struck by a meteor, years later mankind appeared mumbling something about descending from the dust...the events after that although entertainingly loaded with hypocrisy are irrelevant to the number one question...Who told us we descended from the dust...ourselves?
A possibility; the earth is a living entity which as all living entities it can communicate, with animals we call it instinct which we used to work with in the beginning more so than now. So if this is true, how does it communicate...possibly through the energy that flows through us, inspiring thought which was defined as a voice in the head, religion refers to the energy as spirit.Nov 5 2012: Having no answers and not accepting the answers we have is another...are you sure your correct in assumption?Nov 2 2012: Honestly, I don't understand your point. 'Who told us we descended from the dust...ourselves?' Yes! I don't know about you, but the essence of this phrase I was told by a prist when I was a child. I did not have any 'voice in the head' and no divine inspiration to get to know this concept. So what is the point?
If you ever watched what happens to a dead animal in nature, its decomposition, all what's left if you wait long enough is nothing but soil or 'dust', if you like, and nothing else. As the same happens to us, it isn't really exceptional to me, how humans got to imagine of what they were made of. If we turn into soil, we probably arise from it. So there is no need for any meteor, god or energy spirit to make us think that way.
Today it is not even metaphoric to say that we are made of 'stardust', because, that's what we are made of.
Your given scenario, that earth is communicating with all entities on it proofs what? A god? Self awareness of nature? The concept of interconnectivity? Again I am not getting your point.
What do you think life connects to if not the surrounding which made it happen? We will not survive on any other planet in our solar-system without the help of technical life support. So what is so mysterious on this fact and to have the need for a god to make this understandable? On this again I can not follow your argument.
The building blocks of life as we know it is matter. Since Einstein we know about the equivalence of matter and energy, so our life is nothing but energy. Based on energy, driven by energy and dependent on it. So what is mysterious here?
As humans are animals, we are ruled by our instincts as well. We do not need to be told to breathe and eat, to seek for protection, warmth and affection. That's hardwired within us. And if it isn't, our chance of survival drops dramatically. And even our reproduction is ensured by our instincts, so that our species sustains as long as possible.
This sheer comlexity does not need a god
Nov 5 2012: I thought it obvious, however I have been wrong before, my apologies...I approach the answers to our truth by connecting the information we already have, I further suggest everything we know is based on "a" truth then manipulated, as so I believe there are answers that are unquestionable.
Imagined or real some of mankind have a connection with an life form they define as God. The dust phrase is also as you suggest apart of that group. They also refer to a energy which surrounds us as a spirit which is apart of God, it's essence if you will. They also claim that this entity defines the emotion "love" and they define it as, "unquestionable acceptance" a world where everything is one (energy).
So whatever this entity is, it defines the Earth. If there was a connection it was referred to as a voice which would relate to the energy that flows through us, as I claim by way of inspiration of thought working with the sensitivities of the brain and the energy flow.
I note that all conversation regarding a God relate directly to the Earth, that which gives forth in abundance and that which is everything and everywhere...so completely obvious it's almost blinding to not see it...to me that is...I believe the only reason the obvious is continually missed by most is thought itself governed by characteristics of many types and definitions of course.
In conclusion I state that the Earth is a living entity which communicated to mankind at the beginning of its evolution by way of introduction of what it is and what it saw humans as (this would also state we are not apart of love but are educated about it based alone on the existence of the Earth and its characteristics that define it)
I am saying it's wrong to be human, it just is what it is, to be understood, not feared nor denied, unconditional acceptance as it goes!
Sure hope this helps?Nov 6 2012: No reason to apologize as we are just not sharing the same ideas and concepts on this matter. And there is nothinh wrong with it.
Personally I have not found any answer which is not questionable regarding the meaning and reason of our existence.
I am no font of thinking, that all religions, personal believes and spiritual preferences are actually all adressing the SAME and this just on different paths, rituals and names. And I not only dislike this idea, to me it is even unrespectful of those who thereby arrogantly claim to know better. To have a deeper insight of what can not be known anyway.
'So whatever this entity is, it defines the Earth.' is nothing but an assumption. Fields of energy, connecting us with the universe, flowing through us, forming everything to ONE energy entity is - besides Star Wars - a simple and constructed concept how it 'could' be. But we don't know.
Your statement, that '..- God relate directly to the Earth ... ' and that it is '... almost blinding to not see it...' may be correct for todays religions, but definitely not for those of the past. The so called and generalized 'paganism' knew perfectly well what 'earth' AND the 'sun' meant to us in terms of our survival and this sort of worshiping, if at all and to me, made the only sense.
You just need to look at our planet now and what we made out of it and it becomes clear, that this sort of respect is gone. If earth ever communicated with us, as you see it, we certainly lost our ability to listen a very long time ago.
Earth doesn't need to care about us. It supports us, but not out of free will, but out of the existence of life. Earth doesn't need life either and would move on pretty well, without it.
Personally I do not consider 'life' as a miracle. It happens where the conditions are suitable for it and from there it keeps fighting for its survival. As humans we could make the best out of it, but apparently and on large scale, we choose not to... Maybe we will, one fine day.Nov 1 2012: Any anthropology study will indicate that the idea is as old as humanity being able to imagine anthropomorphic qualities in natural phenomena.
Nov 2 2012: I am not sure you are addressing the question. Are you saying that religion is wrong in its claims that a god created the world and that, as the New Atheism claim, all creation stories have their basis in a hyper-senstive agency detection part of the brain?
Nov 2 2012: Of course I am addressing the question. All creation stories have their basis in our species' vivid imagination. I do not know if this is what new atheists or old atheists, or gnu-atheists, or any other atheists claim. But a close and honest study of our species clearly indicates so.
Nov 2 2012: .....but a close and honest study was what was asked for as a reference. (See question)
While you may be correct in your thinking this conversations here quickly become arguments without the evidence to back them up.Nov 2 2012: "A close and careful study" does not mean "there's one study and one alone." As I said, anthropological studies are filled with examples of people's imagining gods, be it nowadays cultures ("advanced" or not), be it ancient cultures. I find your requirement for a reference "disturbing" :) because it is like asking for references to support that the sky is blue. It is as if you are denying your own knowledge of roman gods, greek gods, aztec gods, mayan gods, zulu gods, et cetera, et cetera. I do not see why would you require a reference to learn that studies on older civilizations show creator deities, or the conclusion that if we have evidence that humans have imagined gods for millennia, then humanity has imagined gods before being able to leave traces of such beliefs.Nov 1 2012: I just want to point out to one fact: the word "origin" implies: "the first time" that idea was used, which as far as I know is prior to written history, so I seriously doubt you ever find any verifiable documented reference. I am not an expert in the subject, however using just a little of common sense I can tell you that this idea is so primitive that its origins are lost in the deep past, so you can only track it to a certain point in time.
Nov 1 2012: Some religions in the Abrahamic traditions would have us think that the Bible is the word of God and is the literally truth.
You are saying that the story does not belong to those religions and actually has an older source, correct?
Nov 2 2012: Yes indeed, the idea of a deity creating humans goes beyond formal religion, it was this idea which gave foundation to all religions around the world, so the idea must be older than formal religion... however if you are looking for the origin of the "monotheist idea" of divinity you should take a plunge in the egyptian history. Since the idea of a single god ruling the world comes from egypt, in fact the Jewish god is no other than a slightly modified version of the egyptian god Ra.Nov 1 2012: We may want to resist it, but the fact that we are created by God Almighty is wired into our being by our maker. Just as our belief in a real Right and Wrong is in our consciousness. Individuals can argue about what murder, selfishness, or arrogance is; but is hard to find any human being that honestly accept such as good behaviour. Individuals can argue about the terms of peace, love, kindness, trust and integrity; but it is hard to find someone who thinks these are unacceptable attributes.
We all have that consciousness of something that is greater than us; it is as old as humanity.
Nov 1 2012: This is an answer to some other question and does not provide a source for such a belief
Clearly the Greeks and Egyptians, to name a few, had stories that explained their beliefs as well, but their gods were not your god.
.Nov 2 2012: Cognitive science and evolution also explains our and other animals tendency to assume agency.
The leap from agency assumption to Judeo Christian dogma or any religion I have heard of is not supported.
All evidence points to humans creating gods, not the reverse.Nov 1 2012: Something that is not explained in biblical terms is the existence of fossils that show that there were other human types, Neaderthal, Homo Erectus.
"Although modern humans are the only surviving members of the human lineage, others once roamed the Earth, including the Neanderthals. Genetic analysis of these extinct lineages' fossils has revealed they once interbred with our ancestors, with recent estimates suggesting that Neanderthal DNA made up 1 percent to 4 percent of modern Eurasian genomes. Although this sex apparently only rarely produced offspring, this mixing was enough to endow some people with the robust immune systems they enjoy today."
Does any religion account for this?Nov 1 2012: How can we provide references to a history lost in oral tradition? It's all speculation in the end somewhat like the belief of the American special gene makeup or the European meme of high civilization only ever came from there, the north.
Nov 1 2012: I'm willing to accept the speculations of academics that have research to back them up.
An example would be a reference to the Epic of Gilgamesh. "Fragments of approximately two thirds of this longer, twelve-tablet version have been recovered. Some of the best copies were discovered in the library ruins of the 7th-century BC Assyrian king Ashurbanipal."


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I've been making a version of this for several years. This is the first time I have added sausage to the mix. I will make them this way from now on. I took a batch to work last Friday and they were a huge hit. I had lots of requests for the recipe. Good thing I have internet access at work so that I could eailsy print the recipe.
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I also added about 1/2 cup of shredded sharp cheddar and a few sliced green onions to my cream cheese stuffing mix.
Most people were surprised that these were actually very mild and quite tasty without a mouth of fire. I suspose, if you wanted some heat you could leave the veins or add some of the seeds back to your stuffing mix.
I have to admit I got confused by the directions. It said it made 60 appetizers, but cutting bacon in HALF only yields 30 slices. Whatever. They got average reviews from our Super Bowl guests, but have inspired me to venture out on my own and create something better. So thanks for that!
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What a hit with everyone at the party! The reviewer who mentioned brushing the bacon with honey before wrapping the pepper was right on! It adds that background flavor that makes people wonder. Also, added cayenne for some extra heat to the sausage/cream cheese mixture. My peppers were somewhat mild so this punched up the flavor a bit. I used a convection oven to bake the peppers and even that didn't crisp the bacon as much as I would have liked. Next time I'll microwave the bacon slightly before I wrap the peppers. Thanks for the recipe -- I'll make it again and again!
I have made this recipe for three different parties, and each time, have been asked for the recipe. This is a fantastic appetizer. I have not been able to make it in less than 60 minutes, so it is time consuming, but worth every second. A few suggestions: wear a mask while scrapping the peppers (after about 15 peppers, it has the effects of pepper spray); wear gloves if possible; I used reduced fat sausage and reduced fat cream cheese and it was still delicious; I precook the bacon in the microwave for about 45 seconds (for 8 pieces) to try to reduce the fat and ensure the bacon is not limp after baking. Enjoy this wonderful recipe!
these are great. I have made them many times now and everyone allways loves them. To battle the grease issue I partially cook the bacon in the microwave on paper towels first. This also helps to get the bacon nice and brown quicker in the oven.
These were sooo good. You will need more bacon than listed (consider 30 jalapenos cut in half=60 individual appetizers=60 bacon 1/2's) and they do take time, but so worth it!
Made these for a Super Bowl Party. A huge hit. They were gone before some of the guests even arrived. My daughter said a friend of hers makes them all the time. She soaks the bacon in honey before she wraps the peppers. That sounds really good too. This will be a repeat recipe for sure!
Addition Sept. 4, 2005...I made 100 of these yesterday for a golf party. I made them w/o the sausage. I dipped the bacon in honey before wrapping the peppers. OMG they were soooo good! They were gone before my husband even got any. I ended up making another batch today just so he could have some. I'm sure these will be requested quite often.
Thank you for this receipe! I get so tired of all the fried foods and this is fairly quick and they froze well too.....
I made half with the sausage the others were just as wonderful without.
I served at graduation party, everyone from teenagers to grandparents raved and wanted me to share the receipe! LOVED IT!!!!!
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Comments On Feb 11, 2015:I like having this set up so much more than just a strap.
I just cut my existing straps and used them.
I would buy it again. The only down side is having the goggles hanging down the side when not in use.
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Comments On Feb 06, 2015:I tried this setup and did not like it. Not sturdy enough and I lost a pair of goggles during an enduro. Buy the Quickstrap.
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Comments On Jul 15, 2014:When I opened the package I discovered that the glue on every set I bought had gone off and the velcro would not stick to anything. So bad infact that I never actually got to fit them up to my helmet. Due to the relatively low cost I didnt bother to have them replaced. Shipping them back from Australia would have cost more than the product itself. good idea, poor product. Cheers Mark
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Microsoft reportedly will finish work on Windows 8 by summer, setting the stage to release the next version of its flagship operating system sometime around October.
Bloomberg, citing "people with knowledge of the schedule," also reports that there will be fewer than five devices running the ARM system-on-a-chip architecture at launch. Those ARM chips allow for thinner, lighter tablet devices, something that Microsoft hopes will help it cut into Apple's iPad's huge lead in the tablet market. The Cupertino rival just disclosed that it sold more than 3 million of its latest iPad since the third-generation gadget debuted Friday.
The report confirms the timing that most analysts have been expecting. Bloomberg notes that Microsoft will lay out the details of the release schedule at an industry event in early April.
A Microsoft spokeswoman declined comment on the report.
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I already have tix and plans to head down to S. Florida that weekend but I'd like to stop by.
I already have tix and plans to head down to S. Florida that weekend but I'd like to stop by.
We announced it 36 days before you posted your reply (Post #1).Originally Posted by hunter5nc1
So what section of the parking lot is this thang happenin at? Or do we not know yet..?
Just like last year AJ i will be there again this year!! You know i already have a ticket but i will show up and show my love to Finheaven!!!
What parking pass did you guys get, orange, purple, or blue? Or are you guys hitting up the cash lot? Just curious where you are gonna be b/c I will be at the game, i have my tickets already....
d-day, The Mor, phinz17, dubfire, home made moonshine... it's gonna be a lot of fun :wink:
Lip Balm?
I am going to that game anyway, I probably should buy my ticket through Finheaven
:cry:Originally Posted by d-day
Let me know if you still have tickets?
Does anyone know when the tickets are delivered cause i sent the money about almost a month ago??


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FAIRFIELD -- Fairfield Warde still had plenty to cheer about following Saturday's FCIAC Championships.
Warde won the 17th Annual FCIAC Cheerleading Competition Saturday at its home gymnasium. Trumbull placed second, Greenwich finished third and Danbury took fourth in the 13-team competition.
"Today was an amazing day, even before we found out we had won I was so proud of how the girls performed," Warde coach Nicole Gomes said. "It's a testament to how much work the girls have put in and the heart and desire they have shown, despite all the injuries they had."
Warde was led by senior captains Madison Beerbower, Tali Cohen and Mackenzie Tarczali. Also sparking the team were seniors Cozette More, Caitlin Wholley, Lauren Jacobi and Meaghan Gavey.
"The three captains have been on the team all four years and our team won the title when they were freshman," Gomes said. "So they started as champions and ended as champions."
Stamford took home the championship in the three-team co-ed championship.
"I am very proud of this particular group of kids," Stamford coach Tiffany Clark said. "We have a good history in the co-ed division, winning it for the fifth time in eight years, so this means a lot to us."
Danielle Cavaliere, Antonella Fusco, Megan O'Neill and Kate Ralbovsky are Stamford's senior captains.
"They are getting better and better each week and it's fun seeing them improve," said Clark, who also credited assistant coaches Marianne Cohen and Kara Ostaszewski for helping guide the squad.


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Charles County officials received assurances Tuesday evening that a new Gov. Harry W. Nice Memorial Bridge tops the state's list of needed improvements to its eight tolling facilities, but it remains unclear when funding for the project will become available.
During an annual meeting with state transportation officials, the Maryland Transportation Authority's director of capital planning called bridge the "authority's No. 1 priority" after being pressed by state Sen. Thomas "Mac" Middleton (D-Charles), who said afterward it was the first time he had heard the project so described.
In recent years, state officials have said it was a priority to replace or expand the two-lane bridge, but local residents have grown restless as toll revenue from the bridge went to fund projects elsewhere in the state.
The frustration peaked in summer 2011 when the authority proposed to increase tolls statewide to fund systemwide maintenance and pay off debt from the Intercounty Connector, which links Gaithersburg and Laurel, and express toll lanes along Interstate-95 in northeast Baltimore.
"Our citizens are very angry, and they're very smart to know that the money they're paying, not a dime of it is going to go to the Harry Nice, other than just maintaining the bridge, and that most of this money is going to bonds for the ICC and I-95 improvements," Middleton said at the meeting. "At some point in time, we're going to finish up the debt obligation on the ICC. Assuming that there is some new money, where does the Harry Nice Bridge project fall in terms of the list of priorities below I-95 and the ICC?"
"It is the transportation authority's No. 1 priority," said Dennis N. Simpson, director of the authority's capital planning division.
"So we can expect then that if money comes available, even if there's a possibility that there could be some refinancing of the bonds that have floated for the ICC and the I-95 improvements, that that money would then go to the Harry Nice Bridge? Can we get you on record as saying that?" Middleton asked. "I'm talking about new capital projects. Is it the transportation authority's No. 1 project?"
"Yes," Simpson confirmed.
Middleton said repeated assurances from the state that the bridge was a priority reminded him of the years of unkept promises that preceded the eventual construction of the Route 5 bypass in Hughesville.
Simpson later clarified that the new Nice Bridge, along with all of the authority's capital projects, still ranks behind its top two funding priorities — preservation of its eight tolling facilities and paying down debt on the ICC and I-95 toll lanes.
In a follow-up interview, the senator said the meeting provided "probably the first real significant sign that we're going to start moving forward on this bridge."
"I was very pleased with their response. I was kind of surprised. I didn't intend to put them on the spot like that. I just figured it was a good chance to get them on the record," Middleton said. "I just wanted to know how big a priority it was. When someone says it's a priority, what does that mean? There could be a dozen projects that are a priority. But I was very pleased with the response."
The department meets each fall with local officials from across the state to present its six-year capital program and discuss local transportation priorities.
Simpson said the authority is advertising a nearly $14 million contract to clean, paint and make select repairs to the bridge, and that an environmental impacts study on a replacement span should be completed by year's end.
The next phase, which is expected to cost nearly $90 million, is to design the new bridge, he said.
Charles County Commissioner Ken Robinson (D) asked whether the state had considered redesignating U.S. 301 as an interstate highway to attract more federal funding for the project. He pointed out that Route 17 in New York is being upgraded to meet interstate highway standards and become part of Interstate 86.
Gregory Slater, director of planning and preliminary engineering for the Maryland State Highway Administration, said the department annually considers whether any highways, including U.S. 301, should be brought up to interstate standards.
"Frankly, when we talk about upgrading any one of our roadways in the state to another interstate, 301's really the only conversation we ever have," Slater said. "It wasn't quite there yet from a use standpoint."
Diane Ratcliff, director of planning for the Maryland Transit Administration, thanked the county's commuters for their "patience" as Dillon's Bus Service works to improve its service after spending the first half of 2012 mired in its then-parent company's bankruptcy.
In recent months, Charles County commuters have begun to air complaints publicly regarding late and crowded buses along the four routes operated by Dillon's.
Del. Sally Y. Jameson (D-Charles) questioned the state's past method for accepting bids on commuter bus contracts, specifically lumping several routes into the same contract, which she said deters competition.
"It is very important to us that we feel that there is a bid process that does not deter anyone from being able to participate, and also I think it's not always good to put your eggs in one basket," Jameson said.


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Open Championship
Gary Williams Recaps The Open Championship
Gary Williams, Host of the Morning Drive on the Golf Channel, recaps an eventful weekend of golf at the Open Championship in Lancashire, England.
Reardon: Is The PGA Championship Just 'Normal?'
In this week's Golf World magazine, former U.S. Open Champion Geoff Ogilvy goes all Standard & Poors on the PGA Championship, downgrading its major status from AAA to A+.
Reardon: An Open Toast
It took Darren Clarke twenty tries to finally raise the Claret Jug. He takes great pride in the fashion in which he finally got there.
Watson Still Swinging At 61
Tom Watson completed his 34th Open Championship. He was one round in extreme conditions away from climbing the leaderboard.
McIlroy Hates Weather At Open Championship
Rory McIlroy finished 25th at the Open Championship. He's ready to move on to a tournament for which weather isn't such a factor.
The Revival Of Phil Mickelson Is In Full Bloom
Although Phil Mickelson did not win The Open Championship, his game has finally come back and is now in a position to win some tournaments or even a major or two.
Darren Clarke Back In Contention At The British Open
Darren Clarke was among the top golfers in the world just a couple of years ago. After a personal tragedy he has bounced back and now in contention to win the The Open Championship.
Lucas Glover Tied For Third At Open Championship
Lucas Glover is one shot back after the opening round at the Open Championship. Glover shot a 66, making him America's best hope so far.
Steve Stricker Has Momentum Going Into Open Championship
Steve Stricker is ranked in the top-ten of the world golf ratings, but he's still waiting on his first major. The Open Championship could be his chance.
Lee Westwood Looking For First Major
Lee Westwood is one of the world's most consistent golfers. But he's yet post a victory in a Major. The Open Championship could be his first.
Luke Donald Is Ready To Make A Run At The Open Championship
After taking time off after the U.S. Open, Luke Donald won the Scottish Open in convincing fashion and is now ready for a run at the Open Championship.
Colin Montgomerie May Not Qualify For Open Championship
Colin Montgomerie's streak of consecutive Open Championships played may end at 21. He must finish at least fifth at this week's Scottish Open to qualify.


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