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- Emily Whitney
- Glen Ridge, NJ
- United States
Highschool Student,
This conversation is closed.
How can young America make a difference?
With the role of children and teenagers set up into a consistent apprenticeship of watching and learning from the adults around them it's a lot harder to make a difference and for their ideas and voices to be heard. Personally, as a member of younger America, I have missed out on many wonderful opportunities due to the fact that I am 14. I must wait to mature before I can contribute ideas alongside adults and be taken completely seriously. I believe maturity does not come with age but with mind. I just wonder if there is a proper way for a "child" to pursue their dreams early without the, say, plus 20 years of experience, work, and university. Just a thought! Thank you so much for your time!
Rhona Pavis
Aug 19 2012: Young America can make a difference by freeing themselves of the ancestral brainwashing that has caused the historical repetition of human atrocities that have destroyed human life and limited the creativity, freedom, health and happiness of humankind. Think for yourself. Believe what you believe. Express the truth as you know it to yourself and others. Be who you really are. If you have been improperly programmed, re-program yourself to live according to your own highest awareness of what is right, good, positive. You will succeed in accomplishing your positive goals. Right on!
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Gail .
Aug 19 2012: I second that!!! Well said.Aug 19 2012: This is great! With so many restraints set by society, and ideals on how children must lead the lower portion of their lives, it's hard to see past it all and get going! I think you got it all down! Thanks again!
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Aug 19 2012: Emily, That was the rant of Peter Pan with a new slant from Rhona. There are reason that people under 21 are limited in powers and freedoms. Your words are .... without age, experience, work, and university .... Lets play what if. You are a banker a 14 year old enters a bank and wants to start a business he lack the four things mentioned above what are the chance of success and the return of your money he is asking to barrow. OR you own a for profit business would you hire a 14 year old to work independently in a position to directly impact production, marketing, or sales of your product. Probally not.
Rhona says what you want to hear and maybe not what you need to hear. She believes you are brainwashed and programed. Her statement in many countries would have her in jail or shot. But yet she enjoys the freedom of speech in the USA. You have the freedom to accept or reject her argument without punishment. There are clubs available for you to venture into the bisiness world .. to develop, market, and vend a product. Your generation hold up Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, etc as heros that did not do college, etc .... Apply for a job with their company and find out what they require for employment ... age, experience, work, and education are major factors.
We all experienced the same frusterations. Been there .. done that.
My advice to you is to make the most of what is available to you at each stage of life. Listen, learn, grow. America still offers more opportunities than most countries. Do not let your anger stand in the way of your future. Adjust, adapt, and overcome.
All the best. Bob.
Aug 19 2012: Thank you Robert! I really liked this response, and especially the last section. I do truly appreciate the freedoms I have in the States, for making an impact would be a lot harder elsewhere, even as an adult! I do not believe my brain has reached its peak, and I will thrive and grow as the years go on, learning from the adults and the experienced around me.
I think I will wait, and prepare for the window of opportunity that will open after University to tackle big projects and ideas. As for the original mission, I was speaking on a more general scale. The fact that an ignorant child's ideas will be questioned rather than accepted as apposed to an ignorant adult's. Children have many hidden thoughts inside that many adults would never realize. Sometimes their innocence and ignorance can help a community with innovations that someone with all of the factual knowldedge in the world would never be able to see from behind all the "knowledge clutter"
Thank you again Bob! I think your point was very truthful and straightforward, and I can totally appreciate that. The world needs more people like that. :-)
Rhona Pavis
Aug 20 2012: This expression of mine was not meant to be limited to the USA. It would work throughout our planet. I wonder if what I said represents the way you live, Robert.Aug 21 2012: I would suggest something very strange to you... It's not that you aren't allowed to contribute and make a difference. It's that most of the adults whom surround you, have worked their entire life, to avoid working, contributing, and making a difference, so they don't actually understand what you want to do. They also apparently have you convinced, that a human being needs all sorts of skills and experience in order to accomplish something.
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Find something that is broken... and fix it. Plant a garden, or fruit trees. Find an abandoned piece of land outside of town, and use the fact that you're a cute kid, to get the person that owns it to let you farm there... You'll do more good than must people with all sorts of degrees and experience ever dream of. You know what people need? Food, water, and energy... You know how to make it? Of course you do, watch some ted videos, and start building things : )
Aug 21 2012: This is very good insight that a lot of people don't want to admit existsAug 22 2012: Thank you very much David! My sister and I are in fact planting cherry trees around our neighborhood, so that's a start, right?
Also going back to the first point made in the comment, I really think you hit the nail right on the head. Everyone I had approached in search of a job, or even asking to do volunteer work, had turned me down because of my age. I've found the key to getting around this is independent work, but being a member of young America makes it very hard to acquire investments or help. Anyway, you are spot on with the fact that people don't need a handful of skills to accomplish something. People need to be more trusting!
Thank you again!
Mitch Skiles
Aug 20 2012: I thought you might appreciate this excerpt from Walden by Henry David Thoreau:
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"What old people say you cannot do you try and find that you can. Old deeds for one people, and new deeds for new. Old people did not know enough once, perchance, to fetch fresh fuel to keep the fire a-going; new people put a little dry wood under a pot, and are whirled around the globe with the speed of birds, in a way to kill old people, as the phrase is. Age is no better, hardly so well, qualified for an instructor as youth, for it has not profited so much as it has lost. One may almost doubt if the wisest man has learned any thing of absolute value by living. Practically, the old have no very important advice to give the young, their own experience has been so partial, and their lives have been such miserable failures, for private reasons, as they must believe' and it may be that they have some faith left which belies that experience, and they are only less young than they were. I have lived some thirty years on this planet, and I have yet to hear the first syllable of valuable or even earnest advice from my seniors. They have told me nothing, and probably cannot tell me any thing, to the purpose. here is life, an experiment to a great extend untried by me; but it does not avail me that they have tried it. If I have any experience which I think valuable, I am sure to reflect that this my Mentors said nothing about."
The young are a new generation and its time we begin to create the world we want, not fix the world our elders created. See, age does not garner wisdom if wisdom becomes the constricting force to dreams. Have you ever wondered why the majority of 20 year olds are free thinking liberals, and 60 year olds staunch conservatives? I imagine that you learn in life that things don't often work out as planned. But if experience tells you to fear risk, than I say fear experience and idealize a dream for only you can create your passion to make a difference.
Debra Smith
Aug 20 2012: Have you noticed that we have a couple modern day Thoreaus on this very TED site? I think we really do.
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Nice excerpt.
Aug 20 2012: Thanks! I wish transcendentalism was appreciated much more these days. The philosophies are eternal and more than ever applicable.
Debra Smith
Aug 19 2012: YOU had my interest and support until I read this:
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"With the role of children and teenagers set up into a consistent apprenticeship of watching and learning from the adults around them it's a lot harder to make a difference and for their ideas and voices to be heard"
Can you think of a SINGLE generation that did not come up the same way? They made a difference, didn't they and many of them did not have the advantages this generation enjoys.
Aug 19 2012: Thank you very much! That's very true, my generation is very lucky to have all of the technological and social allowances. Good point!
Aug 19 2012: A lovely and gracious reply. Thankyou.Aug 20 2012: Emily, Are you really asking for a shortcut? Do you advocate eliminating experience to gain wisdom?
You can make a difference! What is it you would like to do? How much time do you need to figure out what interests you most or-----what project in the world needs your skills?
Life without mentoring? Life without experienced advice from those born before you? Is this what you want to establish for yourself? What effect would this have on other people?
Are we in the need for younger persons who likely will make more mistakes due to lack of experience to take charge of management and make major decisions?
Not sure what you really advocate here!
You've received superb responses here. Are these people 14 years old?
Clarification please!
Kindness intended.
Aug 22 2012: Thank you Mark! I am very grateful to be raised in a world where the adults around me are so supportive and willing to mentor. I completely understand what you are saying, and I think children SHOULD look up to adults, and learn from their mistakes and victories. The point I was trying to get across, however, was that young Americans have a hard time even contributing ideas! As I stated before, "I am speaking on a more general scale of contributing to their society. Sometimes even the most ignorant people can contribute the most, and ideas worth spreading don't necessarily have to be filled with fact and experience!". Children, and young people do not necessarily have to run mega corporations, but their contributions could be something out of reach to adults.
Thank you again Mark!Aug 19 2012: Once you make it through school and hopefully get into a great university, that's your window of opportunity to really make a difference. Although, right now, you could organize a TEDx event. That could be a great way to get people to share ideas and information.Aug 19 2012: Be lucky that you can not live your dreams yet-most people will agree that they are more than just happy that they did not turn out the person they dreamed of being at the age of 14-be sure of that.
And being taken complete seriously also means that you have take serious responsibility for your actions. Do you really want to take a responsibilty for everything you do, now at the age of 14?
Aug 19 2012: Yes I do understand the fact that consequence comes with everything, and I really do believe that I have a lot more maturing to do, intellectually and physically, before I should take on big projects and decide the road to travel. Although I completely understand where you are coming from, that wasn't really the point I was trying to get across. I am speaking on a more general scale of contributing to their society. Sometimes even the most ignorant people can contribute the most, and ideas worth spreading don't necessarily have to be filled with fact and experience!
Thank you for the response! It made me rethink my words, and that's how you know you've presented a good question!Aug 19 2012: Here is an example you might consider. There are others like it:


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My study covers the role of music as a transformative power taught by Confucius and seen in Chinese society. Using Jacques Attali, we can examine the different manners of reflection of music in society and vice versa.
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"【风华国乐 HQ】洞庭秋思 / 龚一 / 古琴独奏." Youtube. Youtube. 12 November 2011. 20 April 2013. Web.
Attali, Jacques. "Noise: The Political Economy of Music." The Sound Studies Reader. By Jonathan Sterne. New York: Routledge, 2012. 29-39. Print.
"Confucian Music 孔子音乐." Youtube. Youtube. 6 July 2008. 20 April 2013. Web
"Musical Bells, Temple of Confucius, Nanjing." Youtube. Youtube. 6 August 2012. 20 April 2013. Web.


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**Warning, if you are reading this to try and learn how to solder for computer circuits, read no further. Soldering jewelry involves an open flame torch and temperatures up to 1700 degrees Fahrenheit, or about 930 degrees Celsius. This will very likely destroy any circuitry that you attempt to use this technique on. Unless, of course, you intend to destroy said circuits, then by all means, read on.***
The next page will include a list of tools and materials you will need for this project.
Step 1: Materials list
- Sterling silver wire or jump rings
- A torch. The one I am using is a small butane powered plumbers torch by Ronson which I got for about $30 at Walmart. Butane refills are about $2 each and fill it up almost twice.
- A soldering pick. I got mine in a set from Home Depot for about $5, but just about any kind of long thin steel rod will work.
- Borax Flux. You may need to look for a specialty store or order this online.
- Silver Solder. Silver solder is an alloy of silver, copper, and sometimes a little zinc. It comes in three main grades - Hard, Medium, and Easy. Hard melts at the highest temperature, Easy at the lowest. For this Instructable, I used Medium as my torch is a bit small to melt Hard very quickly. If you have a larger torch you might want to start with Hard, then use Medium on your second solder joints to prevent reflowing your Hard solder and loosing the connection. You will probably have to order this online or over the phone from a precious metals supplier.
- Wire cutters. Use these to snip the silver solder into small pieces.
- Tweezers. You may want these to hold something in place while soldering. Good ones have wooden grips so that they don't burn your fingers during extended soldering.
- Pickle. No, not the food. Pickle is a weak acid that is used to dissolve oxides and flux from the metal after soldering. Basically it makes the metal really clean by eating away all the dirty stuff. Also, never put anything made of steel in the pickle. The steel reacts with the pickle, making it so that the pickle will copper plate your silver. It's a weak acid, but it's still an acid, so if it gets on your clothes it will bleach or eat holes though them, and you should wash it off if it gets on your skin, and be especially careful to keep it out of your eyes. Update: I've heard some people use citric acid or a salt & vinegar solution instead of the acid pickle you can order from jewelry supply stores. I've never tried these methods myself, but they seem like cheap and easy options for beginners so I thought I'd list them.
- Some kind of plastic/ceramic container to put the pickle in. I just used a old Tupperware container. You can't use metal, especially steel.
- Earring hooks to attach to your earrings to make them dangly.
- A short length of thin copper wire. Use this to dip your silver in the pickle. Never put steel in the pickle.
Optional tools or materials you may want:
- Sandpaper - Use this to clean up your solder seams. I prefer 320 or 400 grit, but these will not leave a high polish.
- A polished hammer and anvil. You can hammer the silver to flatten, harden, and planish it a little bit instead of sanding, saving a lot of time. Planished silver is shinier than sanded silver, but you can't use a regular hammer for this because if there are any marks in the hammer face, those marks will transfer to the silver. The same applies to the anvil.
- If you're looking to save some money, or you want to practice with something less expensive than sterling silver, these techniques can also be applied to copper or brass wire and sheet as well. Just remember that if you use silver solder on copper or brass, the silver will show up against the brown or yellow of the other metals.
http://www.hauserandmiller.com/ - Hauser and Miller supplies precious metal materials such as Sterling silver wire and silver solder. They have low minimum purchase requirements, and their shipping is fairly low too. Their selection is somewhat small though.
http://www.ccsilver.com/ - Another good site for raw silver materials such as wire and solder.
http://www.riogrande.com/ - Rio Grande can supply you with pretty much everything you'll need for this project. The only problem with them is that they have some high minimum purchase requirements for raw materials, such as silver wire or solder, and they also have high fabrication fees. They do however, have an enormous selection. This would be a good place to find flux, pickle, sterling components such as ear posts or hooks, etc. You can also purchase tools from them such as hammers, small anvils, soldering tweezers, and torches.
http://www.monsterslayer.com - I've never ordered from them before but I hear their prices are pretty good and they seem to have a decent selection of things like raw materials and findings.
While I am by no means saying you must order your materials from one of these sites, several of them I have used previously and not had any major problems with them. If you prefer to do your own research, these sites may be a good starting place to compare prices, although for most silver items the price fluctuates daily with the precious metals market, so the best way to check prices on silver items is to call the company and ask for a price check.
this help me alot,retired guy in jewerly business part-time,looking to do repair. thanks.
Hello, i want to solder earpost to a silver hollow ball with one hole. How can i do?
Where is the video tutorial for this? That would be really helpful for people who are just beginners like myself.
Hello, thanks for this article! I really need some help though - I have made some necklaces with stainless steel chain, but the jump rings are sterling silver.
I need to solder the 18gauge 11mm jump rings which are looped through some 7mm curb chain. First of all, is it safe for me to use a steel clamp to hold the jumpring, then use easy silver solder paste and a blowtorch on the jump ring join? Would I just need soft solder for that gauge?
And how do I clean/pickle my blowtorched sterling silver if my chain is stainless steel?
Thank you so much for the help!
help...how do I make or shape the silver/copper to make a "light-tight" ring that I can solder? I know it must be something so basic...I am mangling my wire and becoming totally frustrated. I just want to make a simple ring, that's it. help. thank you
Then flux the joint, put your solder right up on top of the join, and heat the whole piece evenly until the solder melts and flows into the crack.
Then, pickle and clean the soldered ring, and to make it perfectly round you will need to form it by hammering it around something else that is round. I use a steel ring mandrel - it's graduated with lines marked to show the different ring sizes. But if you don't want to make that kind of investment you can get a wooden dowel rod that is slightly smaller than the size of the ring, and lightly tap the ring around it with a rawhide or plastic mallet. If you keep spinning the ring as you tap it it will eventually become round. If the metal gets too hard while you're hammering it you can anneal it again, but be careful because if you overheat it it will re-flow the solder seam and it can come apart.
This is how I make the bands for rings like this one: https://www.etsy.com/listing/105212347/black-star-ring-bright-finish-with-black
Hope this helps!
Flux can be made with Boric Acid Powder and Alcohol. Some use denatured, I'm trying to use Isopropyl 91% solution. I'm hoping the water will be less of a contaminant than the ≈10% wood naptha or other adulterant used in denaturing. We'll see. But it's definitely DIYable.
Wow, this is beautiful work!!
thank you I think I can do this now.
I was wondering if I might be able to use a soldering iron - if you know - possibly a low-temp? If so, do you know what type of flux and other material might be needed?
I would attempt to solder the metal together, first, then load the crystals in the prongs after cooling.
thank you.
What type of solder/flux and other supplies would I need?
I would greatly appreciate any help!
Thanks again, though!
wire jump rings silver solder and even a some gemstone beads if inclined to add some to the design.
The mesh is stainless steel while the structure around the base, that needs repaired, is silver.
Is this the way to go?
Thanks in advance.
Now, the other consideration is that since the mesh part is stainless steel, if you try to use it with a Sparex type pickle solution, it will contaminate the pickle and make it copper-plate anything that is silver. This can be removed using an abrasive but that is usually a huge pain in the butt and can also damage the finish of the piece. You can try a vinegar/salt pickle or a citric acid pickle, but once again I'd test that on something you don't mind messing up. I've never worked with those pickles so I don't know if they contaminate with steel the same way Sparex pickles do.
Hopefully this advice helps!
Without poisoning the tea with bad metal.
Where is a pot tinker when you need one?
any advice would be much appreciated
The easiest way to do this would be to use solders with different flow temperatures, usually referred to as hard, medium, and easy. 'Hard' solder melts at the highest temperature, and 'easy' at the lowest. There is also a 'very easy' but it is usually only used for repair work. You should start with hard solder and progress downwards so that the first things you solder are at the highest melting temperature and you get progressively colder. If you are working on silver, you want to use the highest melting point solder you can on all visible seams because hard solder has a better color than medium or easy does. On brass it shouldn't matter too much.
The other alternative is to get your hands on some yellow ocher. If you make a paste of yellow ocher and water and paint that onto the solder seams you do not want to flow, the ocher will inhibit the flow of the solder. If you use yellow ocher you should be very careful to wash it all off before you place the piece in your pickle because the iron in the ocher will contaminate your pickle and cause it to copper plate your metal.
Hope this helps!
I'm new at this (and very grateful for your tute) what do you recommend for a fireproof work surface? I looked but couldn't find a source.
My current workspace is actually just an ancient wooden desk that has a 1 inch thick piece of wood for the top, and I solder on a ceramic soldering pad (Rio Grande) on top of a kiln brick. Some people will get a metal lazy susan pan and fill it with pumice pebbles, then put their soldering pad on that so that they can spin it as they work. I believe this is the soldering pad I have:
Hope that helps!


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Carson Boxberger, its attorneys and staff are moving only a few blocks on the map, but decades in attitude, if surroundings provide a reliable guide.
The law firm, which has 15 partners and about 50 employees total, planned to leave its office at 1400 One Summit Square on Friday and move into the second floor of the Harrison, 301 W. Jefferson Blvd.
The firm's new office is ringed in walls of windows, between the downtown skyline to the north and Parkview Field next door to the south. Its attorneys have offices the same size behind glass walls. Support staff who work at desks in open areas between the walls lined with attorneys' offices share the same views their bosses enjoy.
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"Are we trying to serve the ends of lawyers and their sense of accomplishment...or are we trying to serve the needs of clients? ... When you ask yourself the question, 'What makes the most sense to get the work done and meet the needs of clients?,' things fall away pretty quickly."
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Most clients who visit the firm will meet attorneys in conference rooms that form a hub around the elevator in the Harrison. It's not that they are barred from other areas of the firm's new offices, he said. But clustering most of the areas for meetings improves the "security of client information and the personal security of our team," he said.
The new conference rooms provide a space large enough for all the firm's 15 partners to meet at once – which they didn't have in their space at Summit Square, Pape said.
A large cafe overlooks Parkview Field. If the weather suits, people can watch action on the diamond from a balcony off the cafe. If not, a profusion of big-screen monitors on the walls of the cafe would make it an ideal spot for watching the NCAA basketball tournament.
Another unusual choice in the design and decor of the new office is the wide areas of visible concrete on both floors and walls.
The office isn't exactly a Silicon Valley startup's playroom, but the firm has worked to make it a place where talented young people would enjoy working. It has two showers for people who bike to work or exercise during the day. A large table in one room can be converted into a ping-pong table, and Pape says it's likely that a videogame feature may become the data displays available on the 12-15 large-screen monitors in the new office.
The overhaul is so complete that all furniture from the offices at Summit Square will be auctioned soon, Pape said. The only piece of furniture that was moved from the old office is a conference table more than 30 years old.
As much as a new look, Pape said, Carson Boxberger wants to cultivate a new way of working that suits the time and tempo better.
"We have some breakout work areas, so the idea is you can take your laptop, plop down on a couch and plow through your emails. That's actually work; that's 21st-century work. You're not tied and bound to a desk," he said.


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July 29, 2005, 07:55:12 PM »
and as for the price, i believe you can even get it cheaper than 1000$ us now....i have even seen it for around 800$!!
Such equipment is usually cheaper in the US because of the larger market, but I see that Dell are
offering this monitor at A$200 less than just a few days ago. It's now the equivalent of US$1000 and about the same price as the LaCie 22" CRT in Australia.
To cause even more indecision, Lacie produce a 21" LCD, the 321, which is getting rave reviews. Amongst other features it boasts a 10 bit gamma correction (as opposed to the usual 6 or 8 bit for most LCDs), and a CRT-grade color gamut of 72% NTSC. (Is 72% of NTSC good? I wouldn't know
The current price in Australia is almost exactly double the 22" CRT. I doubt that LaCie are making an LCD monitor that's better than their top of the line CRT. Perhaps almost as good, so it seems if you want an LCD monitor as good as a CRT and the same size, you have to pay at least double the price. Would this be right?
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July 31, 2005, 12:27:10 AM »
Keep in mind that any adjustments to the display other than the analog brightness adjustment on the monitor will alter the video card's LUT tables reducing the number of luminosity values per 8-bit channel you have to display on the monitor.
Hmm, good point, and stupid of me to forget that possibility.
While you're probably right in this case, it is not given that it's the driver's adjustment of brightness and contrast that's the most detrimental to color accuracy. It depends on the quality of the panel's controls -- how badly does the panel take to squeezing gain (contrast), and what happens when you squeeze the backlighting -- and exactly what the graphics driver is tweaking in the first place.
It is, for instance, entirely possible that ATI's display drivers utilize MCCS to send at least some of the brightness/contrast/gamma/geometry/whatever adjustment commands to the display panel. That's what MCCS is there for, but ATI of course doesn't document whether they're using that, nor does Dell.
I've contacted ATI support with a set of questions regarding exactly what the gamma, brightness and contrast controls do, since that is completely undocumented. Well, except for "RTFB", which is beyond my combined patience and capability.
In plain english that means that your monitor will suffer in color accuracy and is probably why you are having issues with softproofing (not counting many other variables such as light...)
Yes, that's absolutely a plausible explanation.
I'll keep on checking with alternate methods; I've just downloaded trial versions of MCCS aware applications, and I'll see if these give me greater control over the actual panel settings.
It may just be that the verdict "not suitable for color critical work" is warranted. If that is so, I'll definitely return the panel to Dell and say, "sorry, not good enough", and order a LaCie 321 if it's still in stock. I'd rather sacrifice the 320x1200 pixels of real estate than predictability and color accuracy.
Now for an excursion into the joys of the predictability of vendor software:
I've spent a few hours now researching how this brightness/contrast thing might work, so I may (yet again) be a bit too tired to do this properly, but I created a Granger test chart to see if it would be possible to see and problems with the display. I have, after all, calibrated the Samsung successfully (that is, without resorting to software controls).
Thanks to Windows's actually well-functioning Control+PrintScreen function, I was able to capture a screenshot of the Granger chart as I had placed it on the divider of the two monitors:
What you should see here, is that the right side of the chart (Dell) shows clearly worse color gradations than the left (Samsung). That is, unless your monitor is really, really bad. I can even see the differences on the.
That I couldn't see this last night either might suggest that I was incredibly tired (how did I find my bed?), or that something changes with logout/login. And in case someone wants me to check the obvious: No, Adobe Gamma is not running at startup.
So what's happened?
Well, late at night yesterday, I did an attempt at finding some software controls for the disabled OSD settings, working from the assumption that adjusting things in the monitor would be better than doing it from ATI's control panel. I then noticed that there was one part of the monitor installation disk I'd ignored, and that was a document describing what Dell calls "driver installation". "Aha!" thought I, that's where I'll find the controls for better adjustment!
Guess what it does. :cool:
It does three things that I have noticed:
1) Updates the driver information database.
2) Installs Dell's factory profile to Windows' profile directory.
3) Removes the custom profiles from the available list, and sets the factory profile as the default.
Thanks, Dell, that was helpful. You could have at least
sometime during the installation process whether I might want to keep my recent profile active or not.
For the record, the Granger chart now only looks slightly different on the two displays, and the difference is in a slightly softer and smoother expression on the Samsung (which has higher pixel density). If I'd left the brightness at minus whatever, the Samsung would clearly dispaly a wider range of colour intensities.
I'll try recalibrating for a higher luminance target when I'm awake again. And then I'll turn my critical eye back on.
Using that Granger chart may just have been one of the more clever things I've tried.
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August 01, 2005, 07:05:15 AM »
but Samsung's pride and joy would appear to be its new 82" true high definition LCD TV (1920x1080), 1200:1 contrast ratio; color gamut of 92% NTSC and of course, super PVA. Phwoar!
But can you calibrate it?
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August 01, 2005, 08:11:35 PM »
Perhaps I should not be so dismissive. It's probably good for all purposes other than critical work involving a high degree of color accuracy. After all, you've spent good money on this monitor and I believe it is good value. Just not ideal for photoshop nuts .
Well, I'd go one step further, and say that it could be good for PS nuts, too. Just not for people who are particular about equivalent color representation on the display and on print.
But it does require quite a lot of ambient lighting to do that. A regular desk lamp with an 11 watt tube and mirror placed just above the screen and helps ... wait, here's a couple of images explaining it better:
Okay, the lighting should obviously be a bit more even, but the point stands: ambient lighting helps, because there's less strain on the eyes.
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August 03, 2005, 11:59:02 AM »
If you are at all serious about making prints you know you will have to calibrate the monitor and probably get custom profiles for your printer.
Of course, and I'm deliberating whether I should get the Blue-Eye Pro with the LaCie 321 (for hardware-to-hardware calibration), or if I should get the Eye-One Photo and have the option of making my own custom print profiles.
The Blue-Eye is nothing more than the original Eye-One (not the Eye-One 2) and according to
the Eye-One 2 will turn out better calibration results.
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August 11, 2005, 03:51:58 PM »
well then i must be doing something wrong. i hae had the dell for a month now, have tried calibrating it i dont know how many times, it is always too bright. it is absolutely a beautiful screen, but i just cant get the image to match the printout (or vice versa). the screen is always much brighter, and when i say much i mean much. can anyone suggest what the best way to remedy the situation is..short of buying another screen.
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August 13, 2005, 11:00:57 PM »
no the monitor is too bright, that is the prints are not at all what i see on the monitor (after calibration of course, i use monaco xrite). it is not that the image that i see on the monitor is necessarily too bright, it is just that the print is not at all as bright as the image on the monitor. i dont think it's the calibration device, i have used it before to calibrate other screens with a higher level of success. i dont know what the problem is with this dell, i just can't calibrate it even close enough. very very annoying.
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August 15, 2005, 12:03:41 AM »
well then i must be doing something wrong. i hae had the dell for a month now, have tried calibrating it i dont know how many times, it is always too bright. it is absolutely a beautiful screen, but i just cant get the image to match the printout (or vice versa). the screen is always much brighter, and when i say much i mean much. can anyone suggest what the best way to remedy the situation is..short of buying another screen.
That's easy. Increase ambient light to match the screen. Any monitor-print match will only be valid for one lighting condition. Increasing ambient makes the print brighter and the monitor relatively darker; decreasing ambient has the opposite effect. If your monitor is "too bright" it's because your room is "too dark".
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August 16, 2005, 08:46:21 PM »
Notice I mentioned this kludge fix as a last resort if the brighter lighting doesn't fix the problem. Increasing the lighting under which the print is viewed will certainly make a dark print look lighter but it does not have a reciprocal effect on the image on the screen, ie. make the screen image look darker; rather it makes the screen image look washed out and less contrasty.
I get the impression Abaazov's prints are still slightly too dark in bright daylight. If that's the case, he needs to create the conditions such that the screen image looks darker. I assume that the monitor's brightness adjustments are already at a minimum, therefore the only alternative I see is the kludge approach I suggested, unless Abaazov is able to get a different calibration result through perseverance and use of different settings, reducing the RGB values through the video adaptor and/or the monitor's controls, whatever.
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August 17, 2005, 12:21:46 PM »
well for whatever its worth guys, and obviously i am no expert, like i said before, i believe the color rendition to be quite accurate. in the monitor calibration process, i changed the room lighting parameter to dim and recalibrated a few times and i have gotten respectable results. i must point out again though that the final product varies greatly depending on the paper i use, namely with the premium luster the printout is very very good. i have done a few more tests with velvet fine art and the last couple of prints are pretty darn good. but i would have to do more tests with "tougher" images to be sure, although thats no fun given the cost of this beautiful paper. with the enhanced matte i am still having problems, i am using the epson profiles. either way, every single print, regardless of paper, looks much better and much truer when viewed in daylight, and i guess thats the way i want it. for my money this screen is worth it, as i am not a professional, and i doubt i'll be hanging up my prints in any gallery anytime soon.
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July 23, 2005, 12:15:07 AM »
hi, i just got the dell 2405. i was wondering if anyone out there has it, and if you could advise me as to the parameters to use when calibrating it. i am using monaco optix xr.
also, when i plug the monitor using the dvi outlet, i have no contrast option. does that make a difference when i calibrate? should i be using the dvi outlet?
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July 29, 2005, 09:06:55 PM »
Here are some preliminary results after calibration, and impressions from the calibration process, which is a first-timer for me, although I've been convinced that calibration is healthy for a good while. Maybe someone will find this useful, perhaps the more recent members?
I calibrated my recently acquired Dell 2405FPW (and my old Samsung SyncMaster 710T) with a borrowed Eye-One Proof set. The result was (unsurprisingly) an improvement over Adobe Gamma, but unfortunately not as good predictability for prints as I'd hoped. Printer calibration may rectify that. Viewing quality is pleasing, and I'm pretty sure I can live with the 2405FPW after this.
Setup and Equipment
As a minor note, I'd like to point out that it's very convenient to have a secondary monitor to place program windows in when the initial steps of the calibration process are done. It's especially important on DVI connected displays, where e.g. contrast is set in software rather than through the OSD (on-screen display).
My relevant equipment is:
Displays: Dell 2405FPW and Samsung SyncMaster 710T
Graphics adapter: Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro Atlantis
Printer: Epson R1800
Photo editing software: Adobe Photoshop CS2
Profiling/calibration: Eye-One Proof (borrowed from a friend's workplace, lucky me!)
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Since there were no instructions in the box (they have been misplaced, I suppose), I just inserted the CD and installed Eye-One Match 3 from there.
I started the software, and the user interface seemed quite okay. I selected monitor profiling, and advanced mode.
The first menu meeting me to select LCD, CRT or Laptop, so I changed to LCD from the default CRT.
The next menu asks me to select target white point, gamma and luminance.
This is where 2405 owners must beware; setting the target luminance to the LCD recommendation of 140 is only possible through the use of adjustments in the graphics driver combined with those of the OSD. Keep in mind that a warmer white point makes it easier to reach the LCD recommendation of 140.
I've tried setting the target white point to both 5000 and 6500. 5000 is what they recommend for proofing, and that's what I've ended up using.
I left gamma at 2.2.
At this point, I'm allowed to make an ambient light measurement. I already suspected that the ambient lighting in my apartment's workroom/guestroom wasn't up to par, and measuring as advised shows that while the luminance level is surprisingly good, the color temperature is approximately 2900 K instead of the recommended 5200 K. Oops. But there's nothing I can do about that right now; I probably have to repaint the walls and get white bookcases. ::
The next step is to calibrate the Eye-One. That was really easy, just placing the device on the holder with the ceramic calibration tile. A minor annoyance is that if you go back and forth between the steps, then you're still required to re-calibrate the device, which is an annoying waste of time. I'd like to be able to say "no, thanks, I just calibrated the thing, remember it for me".
Now to what turned out to be a tricky step; placing the Eye-One on the monitor, and as close to the center as possible. This is a problem both with my Samsung 710T and the Dell 2405FPW, and I suspect with any LCD, until the operator's brain engages and notices that the rubber band connecting the counterweight and the LCD holder is adjustable.
A more serious problem is that unless I tilt my monitor a bit or drag the USB cable underneath and behind the monitor, the LCD holder has a tendency to
lay flat, but rather leave a small gap at the bottom. This creates an uneven pressure, which of course can result in coloring artifacts near the top. And that's where the sensor is closest to.
Now comes the "bummer" for those of us using a DVI display: adjusting the contrast. I can do this by right-clicking on the empty desktop and selecting "ATI CATALYST™ Control Center", selecting View->Advanced View, and "Color" from the Graphics Settings. Then I'll see a nice contrast slider. At this point, it's wise to check that you're adjusting the right graphics adapter, as in the one controlling the monitor you plan to calibrate ...
While the Eye-One Match 3 instructions tell you to "Set the contrast to 100%", this means that the ATI contrast slider should be set to 200 (the maximum). I hope. :cool: I leave the other settings ("Gamma" and "Brightness" in their neutral positions, 1.0 and 100 respectively.
Clicking on "start" then initiates the procedure for locating where I've placed the Eye-One. When that's done, it's just an easy matter of resetting the contrast to a sane value, which is indicated by a black bar being as close to the middle of a green field (and a zero above it) as possible. For my graphics card and the 2405FPW, a contrast setting of 105 has consistently proven to be the nearest I can get.
The next step, RGB adjustments for setting the white point, is another tricky one with the 2405. There are two choices; RGB controls or RGB presets. The recommendation is to use the controls if the monitor supports it, and that is true for both my monitors.
The first attempt failed spectacularly when the Eye-One failed completely to detect adjustments in the blue channel above "50" (the midpoint), while I could clearly see the colors change onscreen. Ouch. I went back and wiped the ceramic tile for self-calibration with a lens microfiber cloth, and with the next two attempts, the Eye-One cooperated. I then did another calibration just for the sake of writing this up, and now suddenly the red channel adjustments above midpoint were undetected. Restarting the adjustment procedure for RGB doesn't help, setting the correct red channel value becomes guesswork. Am I supposed to be at 51, 52 or 53? My only clues are the changes in green and blue. Redoing the calibration yields the same problems with red. That's three failures out of five attempts.
Now to set the luminance. On my display, I had to set the OSD setting to 0 -- zero, and the Catalyst brightness slider to -87 (139.4-139.6 cd/m^2) or -86 (140.3-140.5 cd/m^2).
The final step is the easiest, the one where the Eye-One measures all the colors and hopefully shows some good results.
During the last run, I also had a temporary problem with a green cast to the black background when the device was doing the last step of profiling. I aborted the step, touched the bottom part of the device, and restarted that last step. No cast.
But after this step, there is no stepping back to the previous point, and that's very bad user interface design. What if I want to rerun the last step because I realized I'd accidentally touched a color, brightness, contrast or gamma control and the result sucked? Well, obviously, I have to close the program completely. Come on!
So, What About the Results?
Here's a summary of the last runs tonight:
Run 4:
Color temperature is excellent, spot on. Ditto for gamma. Luminance is off; the target of 140 isn't reached, the measured luminance is 182.7. The minimum luminance measured is 0.9. That doesn't seem so bad.
Run 5 (attempting to detect changes in red again):
Color temperature is 4900 (off by 100 K), gamma is 2.1 (off by 0.1), luminance is 179.8 (off by 39.
. The minimum luminance measured is 4.5, and the screen's contrast is
I'm sticking to the profile from run 4.
The Important Part: How Good Does It Look?
Looking at a selection of a handful of images that I took on July 2nd, the colors look slightly more natural than they did before. And yes, the difference is only slight, compared to the manual adjustments I performed with Adobe Gamma. But shadow detail and gradation is also slightly better, and I see a marked improvement in the highlights; that's where my real gain has been.
Why did my highlights improve? Well, the color temperature has come down from around 6000 K to 5000 K, the contrast is up by 5%, and the brightness is down by
a lot
. These were the things that Adobe Gamma couldn't do for my eyes, and I've had as clear an advantage from profiling as I've expected and hoped for.
The Prints
The printer uses the canned profiles from Epson. I had a vague hope that I could use the Eye-One Proof to calibrate this one for my selection of papers (it's supposed to support "RGB easy"), but I could find no way to work around the error message for selecting an RGB printer.
For testing, I selected a picture of a rose, taken on a sunny day:
Soft-proofing revealed that a lot of the background, particularly the darker areas, were well out of gamut for one of my chosen papers of the day, Epson Premium Glossy Photo. The other paper, Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl, did not show as much out-of-gamut (huh?). For the Epson paper, I created a hue/saturation adjustment layer based on a fuzzy selection of the out-of-gamut colors, and tuned down the saturation until I was close to in-gamut. I also did one version where I just converted to the Epson paper's profile before printing.
The results were somewhat surprising. The printed images are very similar in color tones, but the color balance is different from what I see on my monitor. The rose looks more pink on screen (regardless of soft proofing or not), and I'm tempted to say that the image on paper is both more red and yellow, and slightly less natural-looking. I
the representation on-screen (pre-softproofing) is closer to what the rose really looked like. But the yellow on this printer is really good.
Ilford's supplied profile for smooth pearl seems definitely better than the canned profile for Epson's own papers, or it's the paper itself. The Ilford paper's color gradations are smooth and nice, whereas Epson's paper seems to give me something similar to a posterization effect in the yellow, green and dark green transitions, especially visible in the lower right corner. This is visible in the soft proof, too. The Epson paper seems to deliver a wee bit more detail, but I didn't use USM, Focus Magic or anything similar to bring out the details in the first place, so it's really hard to tell. I think I'll be using smooth pearl quite a bit in the future, though.
Ruminations On Quality and Results
While some of the things I write may indicate that I'm unhappy with the performance of the calibration device -- which would be a correct observation -- I think that there may be reasons other than quality control on the manufacturer's side here.
For one thing, it was a borrowed device, it's been used many times by the owner. The way the device is constructed, it's entirely possible for dust to accumulate near and around the sensor. It's also possible for dust and grime to do their worst on the ceramic calibration tile. This probably happens when the owner/user isn't careful enough with handling. I'll be sure to notify the owner about this when I return it, their own calibration results may be off by quite a bit if they don't pay attention.
I'm mostly satisfied with the results for my part, though I wonder what I can do to fix that imprecision with red/yellow, except re-profiling, re-calibrating and hoping for the best. And if I squeeze things in that end, will my blues, cyans and magentas suffer next?
The Dell 2405FPW can definitely be profiled and calibrated, and it resulted in a clear improvement on both measurable and perceived image quality. This is in spite of technical problems with the profiling process.
Soft proofing still leaves a bit to desired for accuracy, but I'll work a bit on that by re-profiling and re-calibrating a few times more.
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The results were somewhat surprising. The printed images are very similar in color tones, but the color balance is different from what I see on my monitor. The rose looks more pink on screen (regardless of soft proofing or not), and I'm tempted to say that the image on paper is both more red and yellow, and slightly less natural-looking. I
the representation on-screen (pre-softproofing) is closer to what the rose really looked like. But the yellow on this printer is really good.
Thanks for taking the trouble to describe your calibration attempts. The impression I'm getting is that you basically haven't succeeded in a proper calibration yet. As you say, it could be because the calibrator has been knocked around a bit, or maybe the canned Epson profiles you are using are simply not accurate enough.
I'm using an Epson 7600 with Bill Atkinson profiles. What I see on my 5 year old 19" Viewsonic CRT does not quite match the printed output interms of red saturation and over all 'pop'. But what I see with softproof on and 'simulate white paper' ticked
match the print output almost exactly.
I usually make a copy of the broadly adjusted image and fine tune that in relation to a specific paper profile with softproof on. This usually involves making a general increase in saturation (or specifically just the reds) and perhaps a local contrast adjustment.
The whole point of calibration is to provide the confidence that, when you hit the print button, the results are going to match what you expect and what you see on your monitor in all respects; degree of shadow detail, accuracy of colour and tone etc.
You don't seem to have arrived at this state yet, with your 2405.
I'm relying on you, Jani, to get a perfect match before I make the decision to buy this LCD monitor .
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August 01, 2005, 10:22:30 AM »
But can you calibrate it?
Or more to the point, can you calibrate it sufficiently well to make viewing your photos on it, as a slide show, a pleasurable experience, which might even save lots of ink and paper.
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jani, what is that contraption you have unearthed?? is there another, simpler way to get more ambient light? i'mnot sure i understand, is ambient light supposed to make everything else around me brighter, to compensate for the brightness of the screen? if i decrease the brightness on a monitor that has been calibrated, does that render the calibration completely useless?
It's not a contraption, it's just a regular desklamp, for illustrating the point about needing more ambient light.
Ambient light is the light around you, generated by the Sun, reflections, light bulbs, light tubes, ...
Having brighter ambient light in the workroom works just the same way as the difference of looking at a window to the sunny outside and being in the sunny outside.
But it's still just a poor solution for the problem.
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August 01, 2005, 11:03:27 AM »
Perhaps I should not be so dismissive. It's probably good for all purposes other than critical work involving a high degree of color accuracy. After all, you've spent good money on this monitor and I believe it is good value. Just not ideal for photoshop nuts
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August 11, 2005, 11:31:16 PM »
I've got no experience calibrating LCD screens. Best ask those people at Rob Galbraith's site what the secret is
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August 13, 2005, 10:30:26 PM »
ok, but it wont do anything to help me with the calibration problem, i.e. after calibrating the monitor the prints are too bright. or will it?
Sorry, I'm not followng. You saying the prints might be too bright if the abmient lighting was higher?
The big question with the Dell 24" is whether the brightness control on the monitor is just playing with the numbers coming in, or whether it's actually putting less juice into the backlighting.
If the latter is the case, and providing it doesn't sacrifice 'evenness' in the backlighting, and calibration still works OK, then why shouln't this monitor be quite satisfactory?
There is no question that the brightness controll on the monitor is adjusting the backlight; it is.
The problem is that with the backlight at its dimmest, the monitor is still too bright.
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is there a simple way to measure ambient light?
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And when you view the print in proper lighting it will be all jacked up. Ray, you should be ashamed of yourself.
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