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- Frank Booth
- Spring Hill, FL
- United States
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Ex-cons oppions about rehabilitation vs just doing time. Working our way back into society and accepting society is slow.
I'm an ex con, did a lot of jail time in NY and know from the inside what it's like to carry the "brand" around the rest of my life. Know the problems of doing time and what it's like to try to live with the stigma of my past life, for the rest of my days. I know the daily adversity of the "system" even after one has paid his price of jail time, there is an ongoing price that will be paid the rest of my life. It's been over 30 years and I still, to this day pay.
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Mar 9 2013: Carolyn and Frank,
Your suggestion Carolyn, reminds me of a book and workbook we used with some of our programs. It's called "Houses of Healing", written by Robin Casarjian (available on-line). The book contains stories, written by incarcerated offenders, telling about their lives, and the workbook guides and facilitates workshop sessions. It was used by a couple states, as a requirement for early release.
Writing our stories...sharing our stories...contributes to the healing process, as you insightfully know Carolyn.
Mar 9 2013: hmmm To be honest Carolyn, you and Colleen have me on the ropes now...smile.. I'll try to follow the bouncing ball though. I'm definately getting the feeling that I am amoung great people, I don't say that to flatter you, but, as an observation of the two of your comments and thoughts. Beyound what most poeple are capabule of. Thank You I shall find that book.
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Mar 8 2013: Committment to a cause? Do I have it? Can I see this through? To be honest I don't know. What I do know is that it's a "calling" that I'm afraid to start.
Thank you for your responce Carolyn. OK. Ideas, this is what I'd like to do. Break down my ideas into sections, each section building on the whole. As I see it, the magnitude of the problems facing a solution will take a clear view of an entire program. 1. An awareness by our leaders that what we've done to this point has not worked, or at the very least, worked rarely. 2. A presentation of a system that addresses what we can do to change the past efforts. 3. Educational teachers, especially early age teachers, Family courts, Crimminal courts, and Community leaders will need to work together from the very first sign of a troubled family, and children, to take a differant course in addressing the real problems of children and young adults.
The ideas are unfolding as I think on the problems, some of them are old ideas, some of them hit me as I try think about a solution to the question of, being a part of the solution.
I may have false starts on ideas, or presentation may be out of order at times, but, I will do my best to present my ideas in a clear orderly manner. I'm not very well educated so I'll ask your forgiveness up front on the way I say things, as well as my poor spellling.
We, as a society have to see that disposition of family problems and childrens problems should not wait until they become "wards of the state". Without intent we try to treat children and familys "after" it gets so bad that it's too late. Physilogical, or an understanding of the individual and family "needs" are overlooked in the interest of expidition of volume of the problems, until the family is shattered beyound human understanding.
So, if you are still interested, I'll proceed? And of course appriciate any input by anyone. Please keep in mind, I'm limited in typing space.
Mar 9 2013: You say you're afraid to start Frank? You've already started:>)
You speak insightfully about families....
I also volunteered in a women/childrens shelter, family center, and had a short stint as case reviewer for SRS (the agency that oversees children in state custody....often because of dysfunction, abuse/violence in the home). We saw the same families in all of these systems....sometimes for generations. All of these systems are failing. In order for change to take place, the cycles need to be broken somewhere along the way. Like you insightfully say..."Family courts, Crimminal courts, and Community leaders will need to work together from the very first sign of a troubled family, and children, to take a differant course in addressing the real problems of children and young adults"
This is one reason I suggested speaking with high school students and kids at risk.
It is good to look at the "magnitude of the problems" and have a "clear view of an entire program". My observation, is that when presented with an "entire new program", the powers that be, say something like....it is too big an undertaking.....there is no money available.....etc. It seems overwhelming to them. In general, I found that the "powers that be" within the agencies respond better to small persistant steps.
I certainly don't want to discourage you from addressing the whole package. I'm just saying that it might be frustrating for you and those you are trying to convince.
With my deal and the administrators, for example.....EVERYBODY in the facility KNEW what was going on, and none of them could speak of it for fear of losing their jobs. I was only a little volunteer, and I had nothing to be afraid of. Well, they DID try to mess with me a bit, but nobody told me that challenging the dept. of corrections would be easy! Patience and persistence! Actuially, that task was not as bad as when I challenged a toxic business....my life was threatened for that one!!!
Mar 9 2013: Hi Colleen, Hi Carolyn, and any others paying attention,
Let me start off by saying I have faced my demons, my personal fears and disibilities. Some of us may want particulars, for whatever reason, but, If you see a purpose to it for our mutual understanding and a group awareness that I'm not just a "pretty face" fine..laughing.. I'm not worried about being judged, just misunderstood.
My exsperiance of comming from the background I did was that it was a horrible life that I thought there was no hope to escape. It was in a time when child abuse and neglect was swept under the carpet and hiden. So, we've made some progress, but, we all know more needs to be done. Back to my exsperiance, ran the streets as a very yound child and when "we", I was not the only child in the family, where taken away, we where put into brutal institutions, such as you where talking about earlier Colleen. It's no wonder I had an "attitude" towards society. I seen things and exsperianced things as a child, most adults couldn't live through. I can be very spicific but why bother, it's history, and don't want to reach for sensationalism, when what we need is a belief I know what I'm talking about. But, I will tell every single detail about my life, at the proper time and proper arena if it helps. Some things are pretty horendous and the public arena may not be the place to start.
Although I like Carolyn's idea, I talk to my child within. Interesting, I rarely acknoldge him. The best I can do is seek ways to prevent others from having the same exsperiance as me.
Would love to hear from anyone that read my ideas and my approach to these problems. John F Kennedy, I think he said: See things as they should be, and ask, why not?
Colleen and Carolyn have the courage of true faith and I hope to emmulate that.
I'll be listening... Have to go babysit my grand kids now... till later. FrankMar 9 2013: Frank,
I think I am aware that you've faced your issues....certainly hope I did not suggest anything different. I don't need any particulars, nor have I judged you in any way.....again....hope I did not send that message.
I also am from a time when domestic abuse and violence was swept under the carpet, hidden, and not talked about. In fact, we were told NOT to talk about what went on in our home...or else!!!
It is my background that led me to volunteer at the woman's shelter, and although I thought my childhood was truly horrible, which it was, there were so many stories that were SO much worse, I began more and more to study, research and work toward change.....which led me to volunteer with domestic assault offenders who were incarcerated....which led me to various other related volunteer positions.
When I was volunteering with corrections, many people asked...." why do you want to interact with "THEM". My answer was "why not"? If we are not part of the solution, we are part of the problem.
Mar 10 2013: Morning Guys, Gals, children of all ages..smile..
First off, Colleen, I never got the impression that you or anyone else were judging me in any way. If anything, It's quiet the opposite, I've been treated with fairness and respect and my hope is that I have followed that example.
I think it was Carolyn, the other day, mentioned my brain, anyone know a scientist would like to look at a persons brain who has, to some degree, come out the other side? I'm already making the arrangements to donate my body to science, see if they can find out from it. But, that's a separate thought process..
Volunteers, have always been the main force of hope for many of us, and my hope is that they could play a very large part in the process of solutions to "a way out of the treadmill of repetition". The volunteers, councelors, therapist, and everyday people, are the ones who see, feel, and have to live with the memory of futility day after day. Look at the statistics. These are human beings.
I think Random Chance laid it out very well as to what's going on with the "system". And most to us know firsthand the effect it has had. But, when it comes to solutions, on a level that will have a true change, they, as well as the effected, rarely, if ever get consulted, or brought into the conversation.
Here's some questions for thoose amoung the TED family. To some degree, it's a challange and test. Is this a "idea" worth sharing? Would the fellowship of TED give it any attention? Research, meetings with caring professional, and escpecially, none professionals would have to be had to get to the facts. This effort would be like trying to write a symphony, with just the right amount of notes, as one great composer put it, "no more or less notes, then needed.
brief continuation to follow.Mar 10 2013: So, the last question which, I guess, is to myself is, do I get ignored? classified as insane? Dangerous? Or, can we open our minds a bit more, and try something differant, an exciting journey together towards a mutual solution away from the treadmill of the past?
As always, input by anyone is appreciated. FrankMar 10 2013: Good morning Frank,
Do you feel like you are being ignored here? Classified as insane? Dangerous? Some of our minds are open....do you trust that? Personally, this is not a new journey for me, and I'm honored to take it with you if you wish. Yes.....I believe you insightfully realize that your questions are to yourself:>)
Mar 10 2013: Morning Colleen,
No. the fact that I've gotten as many responces as I did, tells me I'm not ignored. But this isn't about me, as much as it's about the "ideas" I've presented. As far as I know, and I might be wrong here, those ideas are getting lost. The ideas are what matters, not me.
I know this is not a new journey for you, as many countless of thousands of people. But is that what it's about, the same journey? I do trust that their are very open minds at work here, but, having said that, my ideas are not really being discussed. True the adversity to such ideas where talked about, and that needs to be done as part of this.
I was asked for my ideas, even a little pressured for them. And I've presented a few. I "know" I can't go much futher then that, unless my vision, of an alternative responce to the problems, is not shared by others. Attack my ideas, Agree with my ideas. But, I don't think they getting a fair hearing. I'm an infant at this, and maybe that's a benefit.
I'm honored to be getting to know you Colleen. I've traveled "our" road and have the upmost respect for you. I cannot take this journey or project on alone, it takes a team with a common vision, and the only way that can happen is if "we" can bring the right people together to exsploy, discover and work towards that vision.
In closing, some questions, yes, are to myself. But, others are directed to all of us. Let's not ask ourselves why? Let's ask, Why not?Mar 10 2013: Thank you Frank, for clarifying the question of judgement.....I appreciate the feedback, because I was concerned that you had interpreted something in a way it was not meant.
I have seen many statistics, and realize that we are all people, sharing this earth. You are correct, volunteers are very rarely, if ever... consulted, or brought into the conversation", which is why we (volunteers) need to "push" our way into the process whenever possible, in an effort to facilitate change. Too many people are complacent....don't you think?
Are you aware that there have been several conversations on TED regarding this topic? Yes...definitely it is an idea worth sharing, it has been shared, and hopefully will continue to be shared until circumstances change. You on board with that?
Mar 10 2013: I have no exsperiance with TED up until recently listening to their insightful and wonderful talks on differant subjects. I would have to think on your inclusive invitation before I can make a dission. If I thought that I could be "part of" the input, and not just a part of the audiance, then I might concider that.
I Thank You for your kindness and efforts to understand. FrankMar 10 2013: Frank...FYI.....if you're interested in other related TED conversations...
Mar 10 2013: Thank You Colleen,
I will listen attentely to them and will let you know what I think. Very thoughtful of you.Mar 10 2013: Frank,
Why do you say or feel that your ideas are getting lost? My feeling and observation, is that there is an exchange of ideas. You say your ideas are not being discussed.....what specifically do you want to discuss, and how do you want to discuss it?
The links I provided are conversations started by people in the TED community. You were asking if your topic is an "idea worth sharing", and I am trying to let you know that it is something people are concerned about....an effort on my part to encourage and support your effort:>)
Mar 10 2013: Thank you Colleen,
Again, your kindness supersedes my lack of exsperiance and knoledge.
I did check out the discussions being had on the sites, and my view is that the first two are people venting and knowing what the problems are. The third site I checked out was much more beneficial for my awareness that we do have some very good programs going on that I wasn't even aware of. I truly hope, instead of statewide, some of thoose programs can go nationwide.
But, my ideas have more to do with the families in early distress and young children that are in that life, and what we might be able to do about that. That's where it starts, before they hit the "justice system". Family courts are overloaded with these "cases" headed to criminal court.Mar 10 2013: PS: As this unfolds, I'm seeing that I should probubly change my topic to perhaps, "Families and Children Headed to Criminal Court" As you can see, This is coming out in a very differant way then I had assumed it would. My original idea had nothing to do with my arrival at a surficing goal. Let's just keep exchanging ideas and see where it leads. Thanks for your support.. FrankMar 10 2013: Yes Frank,
Ideas having to do with young children and families in distress, is a different angle on a related topic, to the topic you presented.... "Ex-cons oppions about rehabilitation vs just doing time. Working our way back into society and accepting society is slow".
Mar 12 2013: Colleen,
Been thinking on things for awhile, trying to understand if I have the energy to start a new conversation that's more directed to my ideas. I don't need to tell you that seeing our history can be very draining. But, one thing I'm sure of, is that this conversation has been not only awakening, but also has restored my faith that there are a lot of good people in this. I thank everyone for the comments and suggestions. I truly believe this started with an intent of the well being of others, and even if misdirected and confused, it was the intent that counts. Thank You... FrankMar 12 2013: Hi Frank,
We have touched on several different angles of the situation in this discussion, and if you want to focus on children and families in distress that's ok....it just needs to be clear to those who comment, which direction you want to go with discussion.
I agree...comtemplating or pondering our history can indeed be draining, and I also agree that there are many wonderful people in our world who want to support us in our life journey. By helping others, we have the opportunity to learn more about ourselves.
You mentioned in another comment, the idea of haveing a "team" of people working with kids at risk, and that is a great concept. As a case reviewer with SRS (oversees kids in state custody), that was my job....facilitating a meeting with the child, and all the players in his/her life...case worker, educators, medical professionals, foster parents, biological parents (when appropriate) other relatives who interacted with the kids on different levels, etc. etc.
This review is required by law in this state, every 6 months for every single kid in state custody. I was filling in for someone on maternity leave, so my experience was only for a short time, but in that time, I noticed that even though there was a law in place requiring the "team" to evaluate the situation every 6 months, it was not always happening, and/or all the players were not in attendance, etc.
It was the same as you mentioned about jail/prison/correctional facilities....there are laws requiring educational and rehab programs that are just NOT happening. The general public often knows about the requirements, and assumes everything is as it should be. We know that is not true. We have some pretty good laws and requirements, and if they were implimented on a regular bases, the systems might change....at least a little.
As I said in another comment, with the privatization of many facilities, there is no incentive to implement educational/rehab programs.Mar 9 2013: Hi Carolyn,
One of my "problems" with the administrators of a certain facility, is that they were providing drugs to the inmates. A CO (correctional officer) brought the drugs into the facility and sold them to inmates. The administrators were getting a cut of the profit and ignoring the sale and use of drugs within the facility. That was the FIRST "problem" I observed.....there were more.
The only ones who "ganged up on me to block change" were the administrators who profitted from the sale of drugs inside the facility. The state Dept. of Corrections did an investigation, and I was not the only one who testified before the legislative body which oversees corrections in the state.
I have not been involved as a volunteer with the dept. of corrections for many years, so there is nothing to be secretive or worried about.....I don't think!!!Mar 16 2013: Morning Colleen,
hmmm. Focus.. by communicating with you guys and gals, I'm thinking that being that there are many helpful programs for the ex-con and examining where "my" problem started, perhaps I should shift my focus, and direction of thought, towards an earlier time in the ex-convicts life and family exsperiance, in the family court arena. Of course we could try help impliment the Vermont Ex-con program in other states, God, knows some states do nothing.
But, my exsperiances, as Kate stated, is that the real failure of the "system" starts in family court and exstends from there. The horror and abuse these systems put human beings through, I've exsperianced first hand, and perhaps that's what I'm trying to exspress, with hope that by shinning a light on the facts, we can find an avenue to address and stop what I refer to as "the treadmill of failure" of the system.
Colleen, I kinda owe you an apology. When you invited me to a conferance, I was distracted and even more confused by this process then I am now, if that's not to hard to believe..smile.. What I should of said instead of "I'd like to think about it", is, Thank You and I would be honored. So, Thank You. Of course, to choose the appropriet conferance, with my lack of knoledge might be difficult. So, if you have any suggestions, I would be grateful.
Thanks.. Splash
Mar 16 2013: Hi again Frank:>)
I suggest that "failure" happens on many different levels, in many different systems. That is why it is easy to go in different directions with this topic. We can focus on any one system, or program at any given time, and I think/feel that change will happen when there is awareness and participation with the entire community.
Now I'm confused.....I invited you to a conference? Try not to "should" on yourself. In my humble perception, any and all information is valuable, so from my perspective, there is nothing that is more or less appropriate. It depends on what avenue you want to explore at any given time.
Mar 16 2013: Thanks Colleen,
And now, I have to think for a day or two. Try not to "should" on myself..smile.. Let you guys know what I'm thinking in a couple of days. Thanks SplashMar 15 2013: Hi Kate,
Sorry it took a bit for me to respond, thinking on things.
Yes, Random, Carolyn, and Colleen have been a wealth of support and wisdom. But, don't think for a moment that you cannot add to the experience. Just your years working within the child protection agency's is beyond what I would know about.
It's been somewhat of a rude awakening that my original topic has changed focus and purpose. I'm now struggling with starting a new conversation because of what I've learned from all of you. Perhaps: "Families and Children Headed to Criminal Court". If anyone knows of any state programs such as the one that Colleen sent me geared toward my original topic, but, on young families and children affected by family court systems and institutions, I'd appreciate getting that.
As for my original topic, Colleen sent me a site from a conversation started by Mark Johnson, which seems to be a fantastic program that addresses my original concerns of what we need to change, and I'd love to see that program go nationwide. http://www.vtfa.com/publications/fifteenyear.pdf Kind of restores my faith that things may be headed in the right direction with the justice system.
Reading your comments about, Resources, not being available. I wonder, as in the case of Vermont's efforts, if there are any states that are making different efforts? As for invasiveness and judgments, don't we do that to a lessor or more degree every day in family courts across the nation?
My conscious dictates that I think before I start a new conversation, but, more information may change of modify that conversation of the subject matter. So, if anyone has any information about family courts, new or effectual programs geared to that, I'd appreciate that.
Again, I thank everyone for your input.
Mar 15 2013: Hello again Frank,
This topic has many different angles, so try not to "struggle" with it....ok?
You said you would like more information? Ask and you shall receive:>)
The Restorative Justice programs have been used nationally for quite awhile, and they certainly could be used more. Google "Restorative Justice" or "Real Justice", and the state, to learn what different elements are being used, because there are different practices used for events, in schools, through the court systems, etc. IT WORKS, in my humble perception and experience:>)
Mar 15 2013: Shoot, now I have to read...smile..
But, Thank You Colleen, as always thoughtfull and kind you are.
Mar 15 2013: LOL! Be careful what you ask for.....you might just get it:>)
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Mar 16 2013: Morning Kate,
Seems I'm not the only early riser..smile.. Thanks for the insight. I'll be thinking about what you've said and if I decide to start that conversation, hopefully, will approach it better then I did this one. But, I have learned a lot, first of all, that there are good people that truly do care, and secondly, like yourself, thoose people do have a lot more exsperiance then I do. But, being part of the conversation with you great, yes, I said great, people isn't what I exspected. This arena of TED seems to be a place where our "notes don't get shreaded" so to speak.
So, I'm going to think on these things we speak of, maybe be more aware this time, do a little research, and be somewhat more effectual, both in my target topic, and facts.
Part of a solution? Your comments, as well as others, have forced me to think about that "before" I start.
Thanks.... Splash If you've read the book, Quantum Physics, it never fails, You'll know what Splash means.
Mar 16 2013: Good morning Frank.....good evening Kate:>)
I agree Kate....there are some stories that make our hair curl! How can people do these things to other human bings? Then we have the systems, that fail to help people break the cycles! It is frustrating. I have been away from participation in any programs for several years, and I also hear that things have not significantly changed.
I do not understand your qualms about this conversation either Frank. It appears that it did not go in the direction you expected, and as Kate says...we are all learning from each other and your contribution is very valuable because it comes from a different perspective.
Your ideas about how to change the systems are similer to mine. The thing I observed, is that many of these ideas and programs are established, and many times NOT implimented. It seems like once an individual, or a family are in the systems, they become part of the system, and lose their identity as a real person. I've seen little kids put back in foster homes when there was substantiated abuse by the foster parents. I've seen men incarcerated who tried to move through and out of the system, only to run into roadblocks by the administration.
In one of the facilities, there were two guys, lifers, who started a GREAT program called "Get a Life". They told their stories, gave participants (usually high shcool students and kids at risk) a tour of the facility, talked about how it was to live in jail, how their life was now....etc. Local high schools made it part of their regular classes, other offenders began being involved and it was a WONDERFUL, educational experience.
The administration seemed to support it, and it continued for a couple years. All of a sudden, it was gone....cancelled.....and nobody knew why!!! There didn't seem to be any problems with the program or the people involved. The administration simply cancelled it. Those kinds of thing happened all the time.
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Mar 15 2013: Kate,
You ALWAYS have good additions, and you are a GREAT part of the "team" as well:>)
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Mar 16 2013: Kate,
Perhaps it is not about saying things different or better. Maybe we need to continue to say the same things over and over again until people "get it"?Mar 16 2013: http://www.amazon.com/Why-Quantum-Physicists-Fail-ebook/dp/B00AXUUOUS/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1363431586&sr=1-1&keywords=why+quantum+physicists+do+not+fail
I recently read the above book and certainly opened my eyes to many things that I need to know. Splash is the main charater, Enjoy if you're so inclined.
Please forgive me if I have been less then capable in exspressing myself. I never intended to exspress qualms, but, do try to reach for an understanding of myself and what "my" true challange is when communicating. You last sentence about my solutions becomming clearer is probubly closer to what is happening to me, although I seem to be the last to know it..smile..
Hopefully with some humility, I can say that as you said, yes, I am one of the very few that have come out the other end of my history, of a shattered family, and it's a matter of public record where that brought me.
I'm learning with all of us Kate. Again Thank You.
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Mar 9 2013: Hi Carolyn, hmmmm Let me start with you last comment. Unorthodox, to say the least. Great idea, having the worker live with the family, but, practical? Been my exsperiance that there is so much violence, both physical and emotional going on in some of these households, it might be dangerous. Oh, it could be taken as a case by case evaluation and in some intantces, perhaps. I'll be for "anything" that might change the course of direction of effort we now have.
I agree with your availuation about drugs, emotional, and developemental issues which plague families, these are the very things which need to addressed, but, the key to this whole theory is addressing the same problems we are aware of in a differant way.
I'm going to go to your other comments and try to answer them now.Mar 9 2013: WOW... I hate to keep saying that, but, I only know mostly small words. What a great person you are. Don't ever under rate the impact on peoples lives you've had. It was people just like yourself, who showed me a little compassion and kindness, that kept me from totally going off the deep end. I've always remembered people like yourself and have been grateful for that. So, Kudos for your pure soul and the "real" differance you make in peoples lives.
I just sent you some ideas and need to rest and re-read your comments before I can say anything. This is draining...smile..Mar 9 2013: Follow up Frank. Sorry.
In other words, get more people "out of the families" by lessening and even eliminating the stresses being applied to this important and crucial environment.
We don't need more people prying into the private lives and families of others.
Keep them out and get rid of the stresses that contribute or are the outright causes of the problems many families face.
It isn't the family that is the problem. It is the system (the environment) that is "CAUSING" the problems.
I firmly believe that getting rid of the causes will solve virtually any problem in the lives of humans.
Why wouldn't it? The causes go, the problems go. Without reasons or causes there are no reasons or causes for problems to grow, fester and become infected.
Getting people to believe this, to agree, to think this way, will open your eyes wide. They will just not agree with it.
It is too simple. Makes too much sense and no one will go along with it, unless of course, if there is money to be made off of it, then they might.
The system is what is wrong.
There is no such thing as a criminal mind, unless and until, an individual can be appraised, studied, observed and conclusions reached, in a society in which there are no reasons for committing a crime. Then, we may have a criminal mind. It is the environment and how it is appraised by those living in it, as to whether or not it is friendly, supportive, has what is needed for life, survival, growth and so on, or whether it is a threat, violent, resources are scarce and difficult to obtain and so on.
You will find that most are institutionalized in the false society they call "free", as they are stressed, fearful and accept living like wild animals to survive instead of in peace, which those in power (the ones who do the institutionalizing), don't want. They are the only ones who don't want this. The rest of us/US do.
Go forward. Walk through your fear. You don't know the "OUT - COME" but you will "COME - OUT" the other side.
Mar 9 2013: WOW..what insight. Well spoken, well said. In responce to your perspective. Most of it is true, yes. But, this journey will demand I ignore the present facts and try to plow through them, and into a new understanding of what is possible. I'm not saying I shouldn't be aware of the problems of our present reality. What I think, is that we can change things in a new way. I can't even imagine the can of worms these kind of ideas I have, will open up. But, thinking outside of the box, with emagination and creativity has never been for wimps.
I'll be laying out my ideas as they surface, hopefully, with an understanding from the perspective and vision rarely taken into consideration. From the human being effected by the system, that goes, most times, ignored. I don't think it's done with intent most times, but, until we "see" with eyes of the, for lack of a better word, "patient" we don't really see at all.
I love your understanding about comming- out the other side. The outcome of this effort is not in my hands, but, in a truth that if we don't include the "effected" in the process, we will always fail to value them as human beings, and as the most important part of the solution. To some degree, we stay seperate of "them". And we look at the problems as though it's a mystery. If we really take this challange seriously a new vision will have to be had. Scary hu? ..smile..
Your comments and encouragement is the most valued possesion I can have through this. Please watch this unfold and help me work towards a new reality for the many who suffer from hopelessness and fear of things they do not understand, unseen by some of us.
Again.. Thank You.Mar 9 2013: Hi Frank.
I am one who firmly believes that the masses of those citizens who believe they walk free are the ones who need to be educated first. Not by first working on "our leaders".
Why? Because "our so-called fucking leaders" are supposed to follow our Lead, not theirs.
Why the people? Because while it is true that many who are and have experienced being locked up, can and do, become institutionalized by the prison system, those who have been "walking free" are also severely institutionalized by the system they live in, and they don't even know it, care to know it, or even do anything about it. They call it 'freedom". They are idiots.
You are up against severe, massive brainwashing, so waking people up to the truth is going to be very difficult. Now is an extremely important time in human history whereby humans really need to consciously realize; have a profound psychic change, that we are the same, need one another dearly no matter who we are, what we believe or what we have done. So, felons and the so-called normally insane people, have to wake up and find our bond.
There is a tremendous amount of stress that has been added to the parenting environment over the decades, not counting the limited gender roles people were lied to about, forced into adopting, threatened with challenging, and then the added economic pressures everyone faces, most fail with, and the cliffs we find ourselves on the edges of. They all take their toll on us/US.
Problems in families are indications of our societal environments that are taking a beating by the policies of those in power. Many times, troubled kids are early warning signs that something is wrong with the environment, not the child. Parents have an environment too.
I also put the leaders off, because they already know this and intentionally intend no solutions.
They profit off the problems they help create, just as our prison system is now becoming privatized, slavery-for-hire, and in need of more criminals, not less.
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Mar 9 2013: Hello Carolyn,
JUST US. Funny, but, it almost makes a important point. Seperate but equal. I'd suggest that is part of the problem. Most of my life I've seen myself as seperate, instead of "part of". To want to make oneself part of the solution, I know will take people into a hell that many good people face every single day, The unsong heroes that work in the system on every level. Trying with dedication and love to work to help people. The present tools and guidelines in place to help others I'd suggest is to the most part, isn't working, look no futher then how many people we're housing in mental institutions, prisons, and treatment centers.
Before I go any futher, let me state, that I know nothing. That's a blessing, it forces me to intuitiveness rather then history or a preconcieved ideas, for open minded balanced approach to this.
I'm getting the feeling that we think there are quick answers to these problems, if that was the case, this conversation wouldn't be happening. Family's shattered in some way? WOW, some way?
My evaluation of TED and the people I've listened to so far, has shown me that their are so, so many Good honest dedicated people who are trying to chage the world for a better hamanity. And I probubly not worthy to even walk in their shadow. But, there are a few things that I can offer, my exsperiance, "from living in the shattered family", the hopeless look on the faces of the people in the system, when they looked at me, because they "knew" how it always turns out. They "knew" but, I didn't. And the tools they had at their disposal didn't work and they knew that also.
I don't know what the word presentient means. Looked it up, but, still didn't get it. I'm slow...smile. That being said, do I know something that is helpful? To be honest, I don't know what I know "yet". I'm thinking this has to be a journey, not a destination. I'm running out of space, so I'll continue this with my suggestions in a new reply.Mar 9 2013: OK, here goes, let me start off with a quote: The British politician Tony Benn put it well when he said, "It's the same each time with progress. First they ignore you, then they say you're mad, then dangerous, then there's a pause and then you can't find anyone who disagrees with you."
I've had some exsperiance with the first 3 things, with the forth, only once or twice. More about that at some other time. I hope the point is understood.
The first thing I would suggest is that we lock a committee of the best minds, that are willing, from various fields into a hotel for a weekend and present a package of well thought out alternitives to our present efforts. Alternitives such as, a team with real resources be assigned to each and every family and come to a consencious, first of all what are the problems facing this family, and then what individual problems each family member has. The team must never, never forget that the patient, or family "has" be be part of the solution. Try and see through their eyes, not the professionals, what they think they need to help themselves.
Second thing I would address, is to ask the questions of the professionals, what resources are availible, what resources we can we add, and how we can we make the "powers" to be, see it's to their advantage, and societies advantage, to try a differant approach to this cancerous problem we have of shattered families and lives. More important then the questions possed, what do they see as the downfall of such proposals.
Third thing is, a gathering of the exchange of information from the various fields, for a well thought out plan of attack, to aggressively handle the adversities these families face on a daily basis. Medical, Phychological, and moral attention would have to be part of the process. Education and opportunity would "have to" be part of the process, to what I'll term "a way out of the treadmill of repitition".
I'll close shortly..Mar 9 2013: A pilot program can be started to test these solutions on a small scale at first.
The above are just a begininning of ideas. I need help, I lack education on many, if not all of the above. But, I won't let that stop my effort.
Thank You, and please let me know what you think about these ideas, or how you think about the problem and it's solution.Mar 7 2013: Welcome to TED Frank!
I've read all of your posts in this discussion, suggest that there is a group of people, right here on TED who will listen, and you have to start somewhere....right? How about here and now....you've already started by opening this discussion:>)
Was there ANYTHING in the system that did work? What motivated you to change directions? Have you thought about speaking to high school students, or kids at risk? Have you thought about mentoring? There are restorative justice systems in place in some areas...have you thought about participating, as a guide, in that process? I was involved with some of those programs in this state and THEY DO work. We had an ex-con on our board, and he was GREAT!
I volunteered with the dept. of corrections for 6 years, and managed to change a few things within the system (like getting the top 4 administrators in one facility relieved of their positions, which they were misusing), so I have some idea about the pitfalls within the systems.
Mar 7 2013: WOW.. Colleen I'm impressed. A person who has actually done something to make things happen. Kudos on getting thoose administrators fired. That had to be one wild ride. I Thank You for the many you helped through that.
In responce to you thoughts about doing some things such as speaking at jails, I've done that back in NY and to be perfectly honest, speaking to prisoners helps but, looking at things at my age now, and looking at things 30 years ago is very differant.
I have a gut feeling that I should try to focus on a more solution based effort within the systems that have failed over and over. Oh, I'm not saying that some things haven't worked, such as me getting a limited education, even though education isn't really something the crimminal system supports, they do it because the law says they have to.
I retired recently and moved to Florida, and little did I know how restricting and fearful this state is. I tryed to join a neiborhood watch program and they ran a background check and although I haven't been in trouble in over 30 years, they held that against me and denied me. I also tryed to get into the prison system to speak and became totally dismayed when I found out how long it would take and the amount of paperwork I had to fill out, only to be told that even after I had done the paperwork, I would probubly be denied anyway, because of my felony convictions. After the neiborhood watch exsperiance, I guess I'm just tired of being denied.
As my thoughts unfold on these issues, I realize that if society really wants to solve it's problems in the areas we speak of, it would have to be a broad 3 fold effort, the educational system, the legal system, and the prison system, working together to understand and address the "real" problems we have. Until that is done, we're just putting a band aid on a society that's losing huge numbers of human beings. Just look at the numbers.
Thank you for letting me rant. Frank
Mar 9 2013: Frank,
You're having some good exchanges here.....I'm trying NOT to say it.....but.....I told you so!!! LOL
We can ALL contribute to making things happen. One thing it takes is patience and persistance.
Of course looking at things now and 30 years ago is very different....it is different for all of us. That could be a valuable part of your message, don't you think? You've said that even though you've changed in the last 30 years, the stigma is still with you right? That's something that younger people need to know.....don't you think?
One thing I learned, when co-facilitating "cognitive self change" sessions with offenders, is that they often did not think about, or feel anything at the moment of the crime. One of the first questions I asked at the beginning of a session is..."what were you thinking? What were you feeling?" The answer was usually "nothing". They were apparently acting/reacting based on a knee jerk reaction, with behaviors they had often learned in their home and community environment.
I observed that the system does NOT support education or rehab programs. Especially now, that many facilities are privatized. What's the incentive to education and rehab? We KNOW that most of those in jail/prison/correctional facilities are repeat offenders. What happens to the for-profit privatized facilities if they encourage and support education/rehab? It cuts down on their business. As you say, there are state and federal laws....however.....I observed that they were not effectively in place in the facilities.
You say "if society really wants to solve it's problems in the areas we speak of, it would have to be a broad 3 fold effort...working together to understand and address the...problems". Yes....I agree. The challenge, is that most of society doesn't understand what the problems are. As far as most people in society are concerned, there are laws which provide education/rehab.....so what's the problem,? Frank, you are an important part of society.
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Mar 7 2013: Hiya ZX Style,
Thank You for your responce.
You misunderstand, I started my journey of freedom many years ago, and have retired with an earned respect from a tough industry. I'm at the stage of developement where I want to give something of myself, in an effectual way, to help others who are trying to do something with their lives with a similar background. And at the same time, help perfessionals have an insight to help them see that boiler plate treatment won't work most times. If that makes sence at all.Mar 7 2013: Hi George, My view is this is about human rights, christian or not.Mar 7 2013: Hi Kate,
Try to comminicate the best I can. And answer any question as honestly as I can. I'm brand new to TED so I have a lot to learn. Would like to hear from anyone, Ex-Cons or not.
Suggestions for what type of rehabilitation might work? hmmm Who would listen, and what would an effort of that nature take? I guess I'm asking myself thoose questions "before" I try to meet what might be destiny of purpose.
On an individual basis, I've tryed to help as many people as possible, don't much care about if anyone hears about it. But, this is my lame effort to be more effectual and try to reach a larger audiance and my struggle to be part of a solution to what I see is a lack of insight by society and the criminal justice system that "we" cons should have a voice.
I'm a surviver of some of the most brutal and inhuman institutions, and have become a productive member of society. That unique exsperiance should not go to waste. I guess I'm searching for a way to let society and ex-cons know the reality of our actions, and how we can stop or at least change the direction of our efforts and thereby change many peoples lives.
In responce to your secretes comment. I stopped that many years ago. Got what the state calls a "certificate of Relief from disabilities". It's suppose to give a person back their "rights". I had to fight for many years for that, and I had a federal law firm help me, and even they didn't know what to do at first. So, it stands to reason, that if federal lawyers, who's job it was to help my "kind", didn't know what to do, who does? It's time for me to make the effort and find a way for that effort to be effectual.
My spirit has taken one hell of va beating over the years, and I'm just one person, but, it's an honest effort to communicate honestly with a hope that I can change things.
I'm grateful for your response, but like many efforts in my life, even if I take a beating because of my effort, at least I'll know I tryed.
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Mar 7 2013: Thanks for the advice about the reply procedure, I didn't know. And Thank You also for listening.
You say none of us can understand how brutal the system is, please understand that some of us do understand. We lived it.
I've thought many years about your questions, what could realistically be done both within the legal system and the prison system, big picture to thoose two things. They mean well, and are not the enemy most times. But, realistically, the prison system is a money system, drenched in blood to get any change at all. I was in during attica, so I know from personal exsperiance, change doesn't come easily. As for the legal system, it's become a numbers game, they are so overloaded with cases, because of the lack of time, they just move cases.
To approach the two systems and give any advice, at a level where it would make any differance, would have to be done at a level that would make a differance. Do thoose two audiances care? We tread on dangerous and unchartered ground when we start to actually try to have a voice, that is contrary to the "systems" in place.
I have many, many ideas, but ideas, like talk, are cheap. My ideas and exsperiance mean nothing unless there is an open mind to listen to them. Do we really think these systems would listen? And if that's the case, which I doubt, then I would need help to avoid the pitfalls of thoose who have come before me. These systems we talk about have a talent for chewing people up and spitting them out. Especially if they have a vested interest to keep things the way they are.
So, the question, to me, isn't what my ideas are, that's secondary, the first question is, is there an authority or body that would want to hear them? Otherwise it is a lesson in futility.
Thanks again Kate. FrankMar 7 2013: It does seem that an allegedly Christian country would value rehabilitation.


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Its almost end of may this year and I just realized that I had not had a single mango this year and so rushed to the Indian shop and bought a few mangoes for myself. Thats when I made aamras to have with the pooris along with some dum aloo. Wow, it just made an awesome meal one weekend.
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The three-day tournament will feature ETSU, King University, and Lincoln Memorial University.
The Bucs will kick off the tournament versus King Friday, Oct. 11 at 9:00 a.m. before playing LMU at noon.
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Last weekend, the Bucs competed in the Duckworth Fall Classic in Clemson, S.C., with Salma Dahbi (Marrakech, Morocco) advancing to the No. 7 singles flight finals.
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These are my Micro Cupcakes AKA Thimble Cupcakes! I really love making these, even though they take lots of time and consideration for detail and there is *little* room for error. :] (I've made them a few times, for a birthday, for family, for a graduation and my husband is taking a "dozen" into work today. Hahah!
I set out to find the most true-to-shape way to make the smallest cupcakes possible, and, without making my own sheet metal pans with micro-mini divots and the ability to make AIR-Bubble-LESS cake mix...well, this is the way. With thimbles!
Thimble safety - Mine are nickel-plated and this is what I found online - I did some research on nickel plating and saw that they do this for oven racks and people cook on those. Further research said that nickel plating would only be broken up by constant exposure to acidic properties. So I figured that as long as there is no acidic properties in the cupcakes, all is well. :) My advice, is to check that the plating exists in the insides of the thimbles when you open them, not just on the outside. Look for the shiny silver. This is based on information from spending time on google and searching before I baked in them.
Step 1: What you need!
Thimbles (more will save you time!) - I got mine 3x- $1 at the dollar store!! Hale-yeah.
A Pan to Pam and put the thimbles in.
Squeeze bottles from the dollar store or Michael's for condiments.
An eye for detail, and PATIENCE. :D
<3 so cute! <3 especially look nice with multiple colors and flavors boxed together.
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These are super cute. Baked by Melissa makes tiny cupcakes too!
but i was wondering do u grease them first or u just add the cake mix ?
how do u remove them from there i feel like they'll be stuck and tear ..
i really luuuuuuuuuved them & for sure they will be on my must do list !
I had to up the temperature 350. It was taking 10 minutes instead of 4. And since I had 5 thimbles, I had to change it so I could save on time.
Other than that I loved it. Thanks for this fantastic Idea!
You must have extraordinary patience.
Maybe you could make about a thousand of them and make a photo mosaic. : )
A self-portrait in cupcakes.
I have a hard time finding cheap thimble.the only ones I could find had the tops cut off....
Om nom nom
I wonder what the dimensions are on those?! They look like they would be bigger, maybe 2x the size of the thimbles, but they would still be an easy way to get some tiny cupcakes! Good eye! :D Now...we just need to get the mold and find out. I guess I should, huh? LOL. So I can give comparison photos.
Who votes that I get it? :P
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FORT GIBSON — A late surge by the Fort Gibson Tigers wrestling team spelled doom for the Poteau Pirates in Tuesday night's first Class 4A District Dual.
Leaidng 27-12 at the midway point of Tuesday night's dual, the Tigers ended up winning six of the final seven bouts as they rallied for a 44-33 victory — and a leg up on the berth to the Class 4A Dual State Tournament in February.
What makes the late Fort Gibson rally disappointing for the Pirates (7-4) is that in five of those last seven matches they were leading before suffering losses. The only win in that stretch of bouts came from Gabe Sanchez, who pinned his opponent at 195 pounds.
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Saturday's MLS Cup loss at Sporting KC is still raw, and it still hurts. But RSL had plenty of great moments this season - one of which was forward Alvaro Saborio's opening goal on Saturday.
MLSsoccer.com did a very cool re-package of Sabo's strike, slowing it down and showing it from multiple angles. Give it a watch above.
With Real Salt Lake on the verge of the MLS Cup, taking stock of our tactical position is elucidating. Without further ado, how can RSL ensure a match in which they have the best chance to win?
1. Don't succumb to high pressure
Sporting KC play what is best described as a high-pressure system -- they start applying pressure with their forwards, and that translates as the ball moves into their space. This might tempt us into playing risky passes in a bid to escape that pressure, which won't work out in our favor. Risky passing from our side is best utilized when in dangerous positions -- moving into the final third, say -- and we need to maintain that approach.
Hesitancy in attacking positions will stymie our play, and overeagerness in the midfield could lead to Sporting KC on the receiving end of turnover-generated chances. It's a difficult balance to strike.
2. Gain control of the ball quickly when out of possession
The best way to both strike that balance and to ensure that difficult moments aren't turned into goals conceded is to minimize the amount of time we spend without the ball. Sporting KC may be nominally a possession side, but their best moments are likely to come quickly after they regain control of the ball. If we do our part to first minimize the frequency of those events, and to regain possession quickly ourselves, we will find ourselves in the ascendancy.
3. Don't let SKC dictate the pace
Much as we will want to avoid succumbing to SKC's high-pressure system, we'll also want to avoid letting them change the pace of the game. One needs only look back to our 2-1 loss to see a classic example of a team capitalizing on a shift in momentum; when Chris Wingert was sent off that day, they were able to slow the game down at will. Their approach play was patient, and though it took seven minutes of stoppage time, they found a breakthrough goal. And it wasn't because they harried us into submission, but because they shifted their play and we failed to meet their transition.
If we remain proactive and attempt to set the pace of the game ourselves, we will find ourselves in a stronger position already. We are not a side that accepts the opposition's pacing, but one that attempts to set the pace themselves -- at least when we do well.
A regular contributor to RealSaltLake.com, Matt Montgomery runs the SB Nation blog RSL Soapbox. Follow Matt on Twitter @TheCrossbarRSL
Every MLS Cup is special. More so than any other game on the domestic calendar, this is the one where reputations are built and legends are born. With mere hours left before MLS Cup 2013, it's high time we looked at what winning this year's Cup would mean for RSL, its coaches and its players in terms of history.
- A win would make Real Salt Lake only the fifth team in MLS history to win multiple MLS Cups. This feat would be made even more impressive by the fact that RSL didn't have the chance to win nine of the 18 MLS Cups by virtue of not being in the league until 2005. Of the teams who have multiple MLS Cups to their name, only two of them (L.A. Galaxy, Houston Dynamo) have accomplished the feat since RSL entered the league. The other two multiple winners - San Jose Earthquakes and D.C. United - won their last MLS Cups in 2003 and 2004 respectively.
- A win would make Jason Kreis only the fifth head coach in MLS history to win multiple MLS Cups, joining Bruce Arena, Dom Kinnear, Sigi Schmid, and Frank Yallop as the only ones to accomplish the feat. Even more remarkable is that it looks like Kreis could still lace 'em up and play on a few MLS squads – the RSL manager will turn just 41 later this month.
- A win would make three MLS Cup championships for RSL goalkeeper Nick Rimando and midfielder Ned Grabavoy, putting them in the rarefied air of MLS legends like Landon Donovan, Brian Ching, and Marco Etcheverry. In addition to their MLS Cups won with RSL in 2009, both players have a title with another team - Rimando won the 2004 MLS Cup with D.C. United, while Grabavoy hoisted the Anschutz Trophy in 2005 as a member of the L.A. Galaxy.
- A win would give RSL goalkeeper Josh Saunders three consecutive MLS Cups. Saunders started, played the full 90 minutes, and won the Cup final in 2011 and 2012 as a member of the L.A. Galaxy. RSL's backup goalkeeper won't have a chance to keep that streak alive this year, having torn his ACL in July.
While the 2013 MLS Cup could cement legacies and add hardware to the mantles of several RSL veterans, it's also tempting to think that this could be the first award for several RSL youngsters. How many trophies can you envision in the future for young talent like Devon Sandoval, Carlos Salcedo, Sebastian Velasquez, Luis Gil, Joao Plata, Olmes Garcia, and others? Maybe we'll see the beginning of some MLS legends being made. Just hours to go until we find out.
In two days Real Salt Lake will play its second MLS Cup Final in the club's nine-season history. Multiple RSL players have lifted the Cup before, both with Claret-and-Cobalt in 2009 and with other teams through the years.
Below is a list of all the Claret-and-Cobalt players that have previously won MLS Cup titles:
Josh Saunders – The currently sidelined goalkeeper is looking to win his fourth MLS Cup title this Saturday. Saunders previously won MLS Cup 2005, 2011 and 2012 with LA Galaxy.
Nick Rimando – The RSL veteran goalkeeper has won two MLS Cup titles – MLS Cup 2004 with D.C. United and MLS Cup 2009 with Real Salt Lake
Ned Grabavoy – RSL's dynamic midfielder has lifted the MLS Cup trophy twice before – first with LA Galaxy in 2005 and then in 2009 with Real Salt Lake
Kyle Beckerman, Nat Borchers, Tony Beltran, Chris Wingert, Javier Morales and Robbie Findley all won MLS Cup 2009 with Real Salt Lake
The experience and leadership that comes with Real Salt Lake's core group of veterans will surely come into play on Saturday, when a re-tooled and – in places – young squad looks to win the club's second title at Sporting Kansas City.
For RSL goalkeeper Nick Rimando and midfielder Khari Stephenson, Saturday's MLS Cup at Kansas City will be a bit of a trip down memory lane. The Claret-and-Cobalt teammates both played the last time Kansas City advanced to MLS Cup, with Rimando manning the net for D.C. United and Stephenson starting and playing 45 minutes for the Wizards in a 3-2 D.C. victory at the Home Depot Center.
Stephenson's Wizards took the lead in the sixth minute with a goal from defender Jose Burciaga Jr., but D.C. responded with three straight goals, including an own goal, scored in a seven minute span. D.C. forward Alecko Eskandarian scored the first two goals in the 19th and 23rd minutes, before Kansas City defender Alex Zotinca put one into his own net in the 26th minute. The score line remained the same until the 58th minute, when D.C. midfielder Dema Kovalenko received the first red card ever given in a MLS Cup match for blocking a shot with his arm on the goal line. Kansas City forward Josh Wolff converted from the penalty spot to pull the Wizards within a goal, but it wasn't enough to stop D.C., which beat the Wizards 3-2 to lift the club's fourth MLS Cup.
Let's hope that Kansas City goes home disappointed again on Saturday. RSL and Sporting kick off at 2 p.m. MT at Sporting Park. The match will be broadcast on ESPN, UniMas and ESPN 700 AM.
The Salt Lake Tribune's Chris Kamrani and Kurt Kragthorpe have been providing great RSL coverage all week, comprehensively covering the Claret-and-Cobalt as they march towards MLS Cup 2013 at Sporting Kansas City on Saturday.
Their strong coverage continued on Wednesday, with the pair of SL Trib writers sitting down with Real Salt Lake owner Dell Loy Hansen. Kamrani wrote up Part I of II of a transcript of their interview with Hansen for SLTrib.com on Wednesday night, and he's graciously allowed us to post a few highlights of the conversation below. Check out Part I of the transcript in its entirety here.
And if you haven't already, make sure to check out Kamrani's excellent stories on RSL's 2013 re-tool and Robbie Findley and Kragthorpe's column on RSL's place in the Utah sports landscape.
A couple of highlights of Hansen's interview with the pair are below:
On the status of contract talks with RSL Head Coach Jason Kreis, whom Hansen said requested to wait until the end of the season to figure out his status with the club following the pair's last round of negotiations before the Oct. 1 Open Cup Final:
Hansen: "I trust Jason will make the very best decision for his family and what mountain he needs to climb," he explained. "He's climbed some pretty big mountains."
"Jason is remarkable," Hansen continued. "The cool part being Jason at this point in his career, at 40, having six years to the playoffs — no one's done more — having competed now twice for the national cup — if he wins, he'll be one of five — you have to stand back and say, 'What's his next mountain?' And I honestly think if we win, and CONCACAF [Champions League] is possible, I think that gives us a teetering edge that there's an objective for him to accomplish.
"I think as you get to be a great man, and Jason early in his life is, you start saying, 'What mountains are there for me to climb?' I really think it is that — I don't think it's a money issue whatsoever. I think it's what mountains can you put in front of me? Maybe one of Jason's goals is he wants to be men's national team coach some time. What resume do you need to build to do that? I give Jason a lot of credit, he's very thoughtful about how he does it. He's totally focused on the game — he'll think about that after the game."
On his favorite story from RSL's Western Conference Championship series second leg win at Portland on Nov. 24:
Hansen: "Nat Borchers and his beard came up to me with fire in his eyes and said, 'I love taking a win on somebody else's field. It was just like a Viking had come onto that field, and was not going to let it go,"
We don't want to steal too much of Kamrani's post, so that's all for here. Just go read the whole thing – trust us, it's worth the time.
Starting with a highly physical preseason game in 2011 that was called off because of a brawl, Real Salt Lake and Sporting Kansas City matchups have always tended to be testy affairs. The only game this year between the sides was no exception, with the teams combining for one red card, seven yellow cards and 26 fouls in a heartbreaking 2-1 RSL defeat at Rio Tinto Stadium on July 20.
RSL took the lead in the 56th minute of that match, when Sporting KC goalkeeper Jimmy Nielsen mishandled a free kick taken by Claret-and-Cobalt maestro Javier Morales, allowing forward Robbie Findley to head a close-range effort into the back of the net. Ten minutes later, RSL defender Chris WIngert was shown a controversial second yellow card and ejected after pulling down Sporting KC's Soony Saad on the right wing. Sporting Kansas City immediately took advantage, with Saad finding the equalizer off of the ensuing free kick. Sporting scored the game-winner in the 97th minute, as Ike Opara headed home a Graham Zusi corner seconds before the final whistle.
Sporting Kansas City's win snapped Real Salt Lake's 11-game unbeaten streak across all competitions. RSL was 9-0-2 during its unbeaten run from May 19-July 13, outscoring its competition 30-9 in that stretch.
The match was just as physical and temperamental as previous encounters, as Real Salt Lake picked up four yellow cards – two given to Chris Wingert and one each to Morales and midfielder Luis Gil. Sporting KC received three yellow cards of their own - one each for Oriol Rosell, Aurelien Collin and Lawrence Olum.
Both sides were without important players in the first meeting, with RSL missing four players – Captain Kyle Beckerman, defender Tony Beltran, goalkeeper Nick Rimando and forward Alvaro Saborio – due to international duty and Sporting KC without MLS Best XI defender Matt Besler.
MLS Cup 2013 will surely be another highly physical and emotional affair between the two clubs on Saturday, with Real Salt Lake looking to achieve the best form of revenge – winning MLS Cup 2013 on Sporting Kansas City's home soil.
Real Salt Lake defender Tony Beltran participated in a Reddit AMA (Ask Me Anything) on Tuesday afternoon, answering a wide-range of questions from fans around the league ahead of Saturday's MLS Cup at Sporting Kansas City.
Below are a few highlights from Beltran's AMA, which you can find in its entirety here.
Reddit user Misplays4days: Hey Tony! I'm curious, what is the most memorable game you've played in??
Beltran: Hmm. Two years ago we played Seattle away in the first round of the playoffs. We had a three goal lead and ended up losing 2-0 but advancing. That was by far the most exhausting game I have ever played in. We were under it for 90 minutes. Playing Brazil in the U-20 WC is up there. My debut for the senior national team, and this year beating the Galaxy at home in the playoffs. Rio Tinto is always loud but the last ten minutes was off the charts.
Reddit user amazingcube: Tony, some RSL fans call you "Slater" due to your resemblance to Mario Lopez (who played AC Slater on the TV show "Saved by the Bell"). Were you aware of this? Also, would you be angry with fans if you heard them shouting for you to "do it for Jesse?"
Beltran: Wow. I have never heard the chant "Do it for Jesse" but that is hilarious. I don't get mad when people make that comparison, I've been getting that and Prince ever since freshman year of high school.
Reddit user EbilSmurfs: I was wondering if you wanted to go out drinking Friday night. If you are interested give me a message, I may even buy your drinks all night.
Beltran: Going to have to pass mate!
Reddit user zarigia: Tony - I remember reading that you performed with Ballet West a few years back. What was the experience like and would you do it again?
Beltran: It was the most stressful experience of my life, but so much fun. I did a full on three minute routine with two ballerinas incorporating juggling a soccer ball and trying to do ballet moves. I had a blast and would do it over again in a heartbeat. Most incredible athletes I have ever worked with.
Reddit user sporkwaffles: Who are some of the young players in the league you're excited to watch develop/grow? (I'd guess Devon Sandoval is one of them?)
Beltran: Sandoval is certainly near the top of the list. It is remarkable that in his first year he has transitioned so well into being a professional. Not only off the field, but in his approach to the game and professionalism. I have no doubt he will succeed. I would also have to say Luis Gil is a TALENT. Sky is the limit for the lad. Outside of RSL, Fagundez from NE is quite fun to watch, Zardes and Yedlin as well.
Reddit user lawyerdup: What has been your most memorable interaction with a fan?
Beltran: I have had numerous memorable interactions with fans. It's quite moving when meeting who people are so enthusiastic about RSL and my play. A year ago I visited a young man in the hospital who was stricken with illness just before his senior year of high school. Getting to know him and following his recovery was very special. He was so passionate about soccer and motivated to get better in order to make it back to play for his high school one more time...
Reddit user Drunken_Economist: If you could pick one non-soccer-related person to be the next RSL coach, who would it be?
Beltran: Wow, great question. I am thinking someone who is a natural leader would be adept as a coach. Knowing the game is huge but also managing and motivating grown men can prove to be a challenge for some. How about Christopher Nolan? He directs/organizes people for a living. His creativity would be limited but that certainly would be interesting to watch!
Reddit user il-re: What's your favorite Pokémon?
Beltran: Probably Gengar. I always thought he was so cool for some reason.
Real Salt Lake was eminently familiar with its first two MLS Cup Playoff opponents, having played LA three times prior to beating the Galaxy in the Western Conference Semifinals and facing Portland on four occasions before squaring off with the Timbers in the Western Conference Championship series.
RSL and MLS Cup 2013 opponent Sporting KC are far less acquainted, with the sides meeting just once this year, a 2-1 SKC win at Rio Tinto Stadium on July 20. It's difficult to learn much from that game, which was played without four RSL regulars who were away on international duty and with Sporting using a makeshift lineup.
With that, let's take a look at Kansas City and what makes them tick:
The formation
Sporting typically plays a 4-3-3 formation, lately playing U.S. international Graham Zusi and C.J. Sapong on the wings with Dom Dwyer in the middle. The midfield suffers from a numerical disadvantage but there's plenty of talent. Oriol Rosell is one of the best young defensive midfielders in the league, Paulo Nagamura is a box-to-box workhorse, and Benny Feilhaber can be a creative force. But the defense is where KC really makes hay - Chance Myers and Seth Sinovic are solid outside backs, and Aurelien Collin and Matt Besler are one of MLS' best center back pairings. In goal is the usually reliable Jimmy Nielsen.
Getting defensive
Sporting is known for their physicality - they led MLS this year in fouls committed. Their idea is to quickly win the ball back, and if that doesn't happen, disrupt the flow of the game. It's hard to argue with the approach, as KC conceded the fewest goals in the league (30) this year. What they've accomplished is remarkable; looking over the last five years, teams that commit a lot of fouls have tended to allow quite a few goals. But not Kansas City, and their center backs are a big reason why. Both Collin and Besler are great in the air so they get their heads on a lot of set piece crosses. Simply lobbing balls into the box plays right into Sporting's hands and is a difficult way to beat them.
On the ball
When they win the ball, Kansas City wants to get it to the front as quickly as possible. They have plenty of speed up top, and all three strikers are solid on the ball, with Zusi particularly deft. That doesn't mean they're necessarily a counterattacking team like LA, but they're also not necessarily a tiki-taka midfield-dominant team like RSL. KC's midfield only contributed four goals and seven assists this season, so clearly they want to put the ball on the feet of Sapong, Dwyer, and Zusi. And if one of them doesn't have the magic, they have the luxury of bringing Designated Player Claudio Bieler off the bench. Ironically, Bieler is actually Sporting's scoring leader with 11 goals this season.
How RSL gets it done
For me, this game comes down to three things for RSL. First, can Salt Lake establish its passing game? I fear that if the match turns into a free kick contest, it won't turn out well for RSL. Getting the tempo and flow going will give Real the best chance at breaking down that stout back line. Second, can RSL play out of pressure when they recover the ball? KC loves to apply immediate pressure, especially at home, so it will be important that Salt Lake get out of tight spaces intelligently. Third, can Real avoid turning the ball over in bad spots? The way to neutralize KC's forwards is not give them the ball with time and space. Losing possession in their own end will put RSL in uncomfortable situations in the back, and they can only get away with that so many times. If Salt Lake can manage these three keys, I like their chances at taking home MLS Cup come Saturday.
We're five days away from MLS Cup 2013 between Real Salt Lake and Sporting Kansas City at Sporting Park.
Start Cup week off right with our favorite RSL Rewind, taking you back to RSL's MLS Cup 2009 win over the LA Galaxy in Seattle. Five days, people. Five days.


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- Never fill the can more than three-quarters full—somewhere between two-thirds and three-quarters is ideal—because if the can gets overcrowded, your ice cream will become grainy.
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Clinical Information Discusses physiology, pathophysiology, and general clinical aspects, as they relate to a laboratory test
Enterobius vermicularis (pinworms) are nematodes (roundworms) which are found worldwide in both temperate and tropical areas. The adults reside in the upper large intestine of humans and transmission is by the fecal-oral route. Adult females migrate to the perianal area, especially during the night, and deposit large numbers of eggs.
Pinworm infection is the most common helminth infection in the United States and is the most common in young school-age children of all social classes. Pinworms do not produce significant intestinal disease but can cause irritating pruritus in the perianal area. They have also been implicated in vulvovaginitis in pre-pubertal girls and possibly in urinary tract infections.
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Useful For Suggests clinical disorders or settings where the test may be helpful
Detection of the eggs of Enterobius vermicularis on the skin of the perianal folds
Interpretation Provides information to assist in interpretation of the test results
Positive results are provided indicating the presence of eggs of Enterobius vermicularis.
Cautions Discusses conditions that may cause diagnostic confusion, including improper specimen collection and handling, inappropriate test selection, and interfering substances
Although adult pinworms and eggs can occasionally be observed in stool specimens, examination of feces is not the optimum method for detecting those parasites.
Reference Values Describes reference intervals and additional information for interpretation of test results. May include intervals based on age and sex when appropriate. Intervals are Mayo-derived, unless otherwise designated. If an interpretive report is provided, the reference value field will state this.
Negative (reported as positive or negative)
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