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Reply #20 on:
January 15, 2003, 06:47:59 PM »
James, the rules are NO post processing whatsoever...just develop all the prints the same-the same time in the bath, no over or under , no pushing, no dodging, burning..absolutely no processing accept leaving the film in the bath for a set period...all images equally
The argument here is that the film folks are saying digital is 'unreal' because it requires post processing...so I say the film folks cannot do any post processing and we will see how good the images are...
Once Again...images are made, they are not taken
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Reply #21 on:
January 16, 2003, 05:53:53 PM »
Well, I used to have just my camera - no darkroom, no computer - only dependency on a commercial lab. At this time, 'TAKING' an image was the only thing I could do - aside from the choice of film material. Even simple things like framing was extremely important to get what I wanted. I envied everyone with a lab, thinking they can do about anything to their pictures - I can't.
Today, I scan my images and use Photoshop.
It felt like an entire new world opening up. Indeed, I do spend more time on my computer than in the field these days. A lot of this time is the steep learning curve. But a good part of this time is spend revisiting 'old' pictures. Some spring to life for the first time and some are surprisingly good. They don't need much work. I must have taken so much care to get it right.
I do catch myself today when 'taking' an image that I think, I can fix it later. That's ok - but with limits. Of course, you can add a waterfall if its nice - but why would you?
Digital technology can help, but the old computer rule of 'garbage in - garbage out' still applies. Only the good pictures warrant the time and effort to work on them. That has not changed from the darkroom days.
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Reply #22 on:
January 17, 2003, 01:38:19 PM »
So, if I took a nice beach scene, and cloned in a Chincoteague pony into it (and did it just so, so that you couldn't tell they were photographed separately), would this be any better, worse, or even different?
There's nothing wrong with this, provided you let me (the buyer, collector, etc.) know that the pony was never on the beach and that this is a composite. I could then judge weather or not I valued a creation as much as a straight photo. Honesty: it's really the simple solution.
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Reply #23 on:
January 17, 2003, 02:37:25 PM »
I think alterating a photograph really matters if its going to be used as evidence in court.
Alfred Stieglitz was fighting this conception of photography a century ago. Photography is an art form (maybe wont apply if you are shooting news and documentary) and art doesn't obey reality. Who cares if the pony actually was there, as it really COULD have been there.Why ruining the magic of the image by saying its just digital manipulation. Chincoteague pony's, those are famous, right?
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Reply #24 on:
January 19, 2003, 06:28:05 AM »
Fascinating thread. What we are trying to decide is rather philosophical; when does a photo cease to become a "photo" (with all of the documentary baggage associated with that concept) and enter the realm of "art"? For me, unless your photo is going to be used as evidence in court (where ethics demands a high degree of correlation between the image and the state of the universe as seen from the point of view of the camera at the time the shot was taken), then the ultimate objective is the reaction to the image in the mind of the viewer. Moving the camera 3 feet to the left to hide an ugly sign behind a bush when taking a landscape photo is no more or less valid as an image altering technique than cloning it out in Photoshop after the fact. Airbrushing Aunt Suzie's hideous facial wart is no different than having her turn her head slightly to hide it. In all these cases the "reality" of these images could be called into question, because they fail to tell the "whole truth"; they sin by omission, as it were. Neither landscape image would suggest the existence of the sign, and neither portrait image would suggest the existence of the wart. However, no photograph can possibly depict every possible detail of every element of the environment in which it was taken, so this is not an indictment of any of the hypothetical images described.
Much of photography involves choosing what to photograph, and which vantage point and field of view to use. This has more of an effect on the finished image than any other factor, regardless of whether one is using digital or film, and regardless of the means used to process the image. The choice of subject, vantage point, and when to capture the image makes all the difference between a ho-hum snapshot and an Ansel Adams. My personally preferred approach to removing the sign from the landscape image would be to move the camera; not because it is any more "truthful", (although it is, from a certain point of view) but because moving the camera a few feet is less hassle than trying to get rid of the sign in Photoshop.
I enjoy photographing sunsets. I could create vividly colorful sunset scenes in Photoshop without bothering with my digital camera and all of the other accoutrements of digital photography, but I find manufactured images to be less interesting than ones with a reasonably high degree of correlation to an actual location and event. In pursuit of the goal of creating images of sunsets that have a significant basis in reality (which is a personal preference) I carry around a camera and tripod and devote considerable time and effort to recording images of sunsets that I think are aesthetically pleasing. When people look at my work and ask if the sky really looked like that, I tell them that the brightness, contrast, and color saturation may be adjusted somewhat, but the image depicts with a reasonable degree of accuracy what the camera saw when the image was recorded.
Likewise when taking a portrait, I try to capture the personality of the subject without highlighting their shortcomings, real or imagined. This process involves selecting the environment, clothing and perspective for the shoot, selecting the image from the shoot that that has the most pleasing facial expression, and occasionally airbrushing acres of acne. None of the images may correlate particularly well with what you might see when the subject is asleep and wearing curlers and no makeup, but that is not the point of portrait photography.
In general, I find the task of defining whether an image is "real" or not to be an endless morass of legalistic quibbling. If an image with a gamma adjustment of 1.2 is still "real" what about 3.2? Is B&W photography "real"? By any objective methodology of measurement, it has a lesser degree of correlation to "reality" than color photography, but I have never heard anyone dispute the "reality" of an Ansel Adams landscape print. How far can I turn up color saturation before an image is no loger "real", and who is going to send the color police after me if I exceed the limit?
If someone purchasing a print inquires what techniques were used to create it, don't be dishonest, you can always refuse to answer the question if you think they won't like the answer. Hey it works for magicians, why not photographers? Come to think of it there are a lot of similarities; they are into sleight of hand, we do sleight of eye. Anyway, I've ranted enough for one post, so I'll shut up now.
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Reply #25 on:
March 02, 2003, 05:02:43 PM »
I just thought I would chime in on this one. I am an but a novice, however after several years of shooting and two working with scanned images in Photo Shop. I have found that if I start with a poor image no amount editing can really save it. Conversley I have also found that with a great image to start with, anything more that basic color balance and contrast editing only degrade the end result. I guess what I am saying is simpley that a great image is just that and a poor one is poor. I do agree that great images are made. But consider that a great image comes from a great shot with great editing. Thanks -- Swilbilly
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Reply #26 on:
March 10, 2003, 01:06:06 PM »
I follow this interesting thread for a while now.
Sometimes, I'm not so sure I can follow all the technical aspects. But frankly, I don't mind. For me, technical aspects are secondary.
What makes looking at images (photographs, drawings, paintings even sculpture) so important and always fascinating is the personal view of the person creating it. I don't care about reality. It is just there and open for interpretation - to me the greatest challenge.
Why look at an image of, say the Utah desert and its rock formations, photographed so many times or some semi-wild animal in a winter landscape? Polar Bears are cute, flowers pretty, people - well.... It is only, because I care about people and the way they see the world and their abitlity to use what ever tools they are comfortable with to show me and others how diverse, beautiful, strange and maybe uncomfortable or lovely this same world can get.
Ok, it's immensely valuable for specialists in a certain field (here:photo - any kind) to exchange about what's new and available to better represent those personal impressions. Otherwise, I do not think there is such a thing as reality common to all - and I like that.
To revert back to an earlier post: It's fine to delete power lines in photoshop - they might simply not represent the feeling I had when looking at this scenery and (as a lot of contributers have said) there are many ways to influence the representation of ones impressions.
Edit on further thought: There are situations, when 'true reality' is an issue: 'true color' for serial printing and worse yet, 'true color' for cataloge work in professional photography - this time related to 'taking' the image, 'working' with it and printing. I have dealt with both issues in my profession. This is an art, not a problem - as I have been told by veteran master printers doing reproduction and pre-press. I'm just so clad, that I do not have to deal with that with my personal work. I just like the result or I don't and it's my choice.
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Reply #27 on:
March 11, 2003, 10:21:54 PM »
I understand what you're saying and I hope you'll forgive me if I appear to be trying to invalidate the artistic process as it applies to photography. Part of the problem as I see it, is that the camera really is an extraordinarily good and accurate recording device. Its limitations and distortions can be viewed as differences to the way the eye processes information, but valid in their own right. What we normally see is not necessarily 'reality' but a highly selective perspective that's shaped and defined not only by the properties and design of our eyes (the elecromagnetic spectrum is huge and we see just a very small portion of it) but by our conciousness which can include or exclude parts of a scene for a whole host of reasons.
The camera is not so easily tricked. In fact, I believe the camera really cannot lie. It can only be itself. I suppose that's self-evident in general terms. Inanimate objects cannot lie. Only people can lie.
So, in view of this remarkable quality of the camera to faithfully and dependably record whatever's in front of it, without bias or prejudice, without lapses of consciousness or selective failure to notice things, it's no wonder that some people feel a bit uneasy about tampering with this extraordinary fidelity.
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Reply #28 on:
March 18, 2003, 07:26:58 PM »
My digital post processing is limited to essentially what one would do in a wet environment. Adjusting contrast, brightness, saturation, croping, etc. I probably use 10% of what photoshop can do to an image. In fact, I wish there was photoshop-darkroom and photoshop-graphicsartist versions. Most of the stuff in photoshop is in my way.
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Reply #29 on:
April 20, 2003, 01:40:10 AM »
Matters not to me if its digital......film.....processed....left alone......
All that matters is....
a.) Did it look like I wanted it to look. when I'm finished.
b.) Is it a plesant image to view.
c.)Is it effective in saying to the viewer what I wanted to convey.
Art is art...whether its with a brush...spray can....digital camera.....film.....(I could go on...but you get the drift.)
Celebrate creativity in all areas
Use what works...(for you)
Dont use what dosnt...(for you)
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Keep an open mind......and Have FUN!!
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Reply #30 on:
January 15, 2003, 12:10:11 PM »
I may be wrong but I believe it was Ansel Adams who said something along the lines of:
"A good photograph is not taken. It is made"
How is choosing to make your image digitally any different than choosing to make it with film?
The fact is even for the most seasoned professional such as Ansel Adams if it wasnt for the ablity to manipulate images afterwards(whether its in the wet lab or the computer) the resulting images would pretty much blow.
Now take this hypothetical scenario and apply the following rules:
- All images film photographers take would be takern with standard film with no filters . When developing they would be given a standard exposure- Such and such a time in the bath etc etc. No post processing, dodging, burning etc.
- All images taken with a digital camera will be displayed as is straight out of the camera
Now take the above rules and have the top professionals display their new portfolio with the above rules applied and I can guarantee you the majority of the images would blow chunks. They would look quite average and most of the images probably would not be striking in any way.
Now we can see what Ansel Adams meant when he says good photographs are made and not taken. Even Ansel himself realized post processing is neccesary to achieve the art. He was a master of the dark room. Without such processes as dodging and burning and experimentation many of his images such as the famous Moonrise image would quite frankly never have made it.
I submit that if Ansel Adams were around today he too would be working with Photoshop and using all the digital tools that are available. I know this because Ansel by his own admission knew good images are made and they are not taken.
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Reply #31 on:
January 15, 2003, 03:47:52 PM »
I think you're overreacting. Not everyone uses Velvia. Ektachrome 100S exists for a reason.
But seriously, most objections to manipulations come from compositional elements either being added or removed digitally without the viewer's knowledge. If someone wants to remove telephone lines that are running through the most beautiful valley in the world, then do so. But please tell me that you've done so. If you're creating a scene that does not exist in real life--good for you. Just please let me know. I don't think there is anything to be gained from blurring the lines between straight photography and photography mixed with graphic art. Both are wonderful. They simply need to be kept separate for the sake of evaluation. It will ultimately be up to the viewer to decide if he or she values a 'straight' shot more or less than one that has had compositional elements added or removed via digital techniques.
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Reply #32 on:
January 15, 2003, 06:39:29 PM »
I might say though - some post processing work has to be undertaken to make prints look the same as the trannys. And ... I don't produce alot of work like this in a year. I might make 30 images that I'm happy to sell as limited edition work. I shoot alot of other stuff for stock, but that is a whole different game.
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Reply #33 on:
January 16, 2003, 07:50:11 AM »
James, I understand what you are saying.
I was just pointing out one of the myths of professional photography. A lot of laymen think every shot the professional takes is a masterpiece. The difference between a professional and layman(besides experience) is the pro takes lots and lots of photos and has a wide range of possible exposures to choose to make in the darkroom. The laymen typically takes one or two shots of a scene and turns in his images to a lab at WalMart who does a standard development. The professional makes his photos to his liking.
I recall a recent conversation on this board where Michael Reichmann discussed how he took over 180 shots of birds in flight against a backdrop to get a couple keepers he was satisfied with. For the professional many shots are not planned down to minute detail. They simply happen to be one of the keepers out of the mutlitude of shots. The more you take the more your chances of success. There really is nothing magical going on that the layman is not doing. The profesional simply takes a lot more photos and has the experience and wisdom to manipulate and develop the promising images.
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Reply #34 on:
January 17, 2003, 01:34:57 PM »
So, if I took a nice beach scene, and cloned in a Chincoteague pony into it (and did it just so, so that you couldn't tell they were photographed separately), would this be any better, worse, or even different?
There's nothing wrong with this, provided you let me (the buyer, collector, etc.) know that the pony was never on the beach and that this is a composite. I could then judge weather or not I valued a creation as much as a straight photo. Honesty: it's really the simple solution.
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Reply #35 on:
January 25, 2003, 07:25:51 AM »
Please stop using the word professionals! What's that got to do with quality? That is just a way of making a living.
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Reply #36 on:
March 10, 2003, 11:20:24 AM »
a very nice summary. I was just briefly sceptical that a blended view of a high contrast scene "would be completely natural", but then realized that it probably can come close if presented well.
One example to consider is Michael R's blended image of sunset and bushes in his recent Big Sur collection. In the small image on my screen it seems unnatural (but way better than a fill-flash shot); I am seeing the whole scene at once and my reaction is that in reality my eyes would be adjusted to the sun, and so the bushes at the bottom of my field of view would be dimmer.
But if one were to make a suitably big print, and view it from close enough to reproduce the angular field of view of the original scene, then one's eyes would have to move between sky and bushes, and it might then reproduce what one would see by moving one's eyes around the original scene and so having them adjust the the brightness variation.
This is perhaps one perceptual reason for the advantage of presenting wide angle images like landscapes with big, high resolution prints.
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Reply #37 on:
March 11, 2003, 01:08:10 PM »
When you press the shutter, you can do no other than record what exists.
Yes, but in the act of capturing what exists, you are interpreting it, and changing it. What is captured is always an interpretation (intellectual, emotional, or mechanical).
I'm not sure if you're saying that all your photos are essentially quite dull because they record only what exists and that in order to make them interesting you have to manipulate them in Photoshop and mold them according to a pre-conceived idea.
Yes, all of my photos are terrible dull. That is not at all what I meant. I was speaking philosophically, that if the goal of photography was merely to capture a fragment of reality, I personally would find that a very dull objective. I love photography because I believe it is not that -- because everyone who takes a picture sees a different reality, captures it differently, expresses it differently. You give 5 people the same camera and point them at the same mountain, and you'll see 5 completely different "realities".
I should also mention that many poems consist of less than 20 words - Japanese haiku, for example
Exactly. Though the "equipment" of that poetic form, the poet is interpreting reality.
I'm intrigued about your concept of emotional accuracy. It seems almost an oxymoron. The word 'accuracy' belongs in the technical domain, does it not? ....Your opinion of those qualities, and your emotional response to those qualities, may change over quite short periods of time, but the 'real' qualities of the photo (whatever they are) remain fixed. That's their attraction. Same with paintings.
Yes, it is an oxymoron, or you might think of it as a noble fool's quest. I mean creating art that is "accurate" to your intentions. Photos that try to evoke what you felt as you took the picture. It is nearly impossible to do, which is why so many of us artists and photographers can spend our entire lives on this quest. The impossibility of it makes it fun.
Yes, some qualities of images may remain fixed, but that context and interpretation will vary wildly. Part of the game of the artist is to play with (or ignore) these interpretations.
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Reply #38 on:
January 17, 2003, 03:21:08 PM »
If you think no one cares then you should have no problem letting potential buyers know that you have created a photographic creation and not a straight photo. If you believe that the majority of gallery and art show buyers favor composite, imaginary landscapes over traditional 'straight' photos then promoting yourself as a landscape creator (and not a straight shooter) could only add to the value of your work.
Furthermore, I might add that if you find conventional landscape photography terribly boring you might want to become Wilderness Travel certified by the Sierra Club. That way you can grab your 7.5 minute USGS maps, put on a pack, bring your water filtration equipment, and go 'off trail' for a few weeks. I guarantee you you'll see rare, magical landscapes that need no alteration and have never graced the pages of any calendar.
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Reply #39 on:
March 07, 2003, 03:32:26 AM »
I have found that if I start with a poor image no amount editing can really save it. Conversley I have also found that with a great image to start with, anything more that basic color balance and contrast editing only degrade the end result.
You will get little argument from me on this point. Trying to make a crappy image be excellent by editing is kind of like putting lipstick on a pig.
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There is no getting away from it. Joe Hart has not had a good couple of months.
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I was noticing the power of the web and started keeping track of locations, out of curiosity.
I've seen member locations in Australia, south, east and west Canada, China, Croatia, Estonia, Guatemala, Hungary, Indonesia, Malta, Mesopotamia, Gozo Island / near Malta, Slovenia, South Mexico, Turkey, UK, and Uraguay.
So when someone has trouble with their english, I give them a pass.
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Yes, this nation wasn't founded by xenophobes. I'd rather go to a translation website than attack the poster. After all, he's not even threatening to come here and only asks for recognition of his welding skills.
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Uneducated weldors
Perhaps it's time for you idiot old timers to quit watching Archie Bunker reruns and learn a second language. Oh wait - you're weldors - you're too smart to have to learn a second language.
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But it will neither make you a better person nor will it solve the problem everytime. I speak German and some English. If I would ever want to post on a Spanish language welding forum I'd do it in English, knowing that it's the wrong language for that board. Do you really think that would lead to a discussion over there whether I should learn a third language or the board members should learn English?
Somewhere I've red the line that "welding is an international language". I think that after looking at the pictures everyone here knows the content of the first posting even without reading the text. So I guess that every board member is already learning at least a second language. Agreed?Steffen
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Most posters of foreign locations do at least attempt to post here in English.
That is common courtesy The OP did not, this goes back to laziness.
The OP did post some nice work.Tim Beeker,
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I noticed the welder right off! Hmm, shows a balance of trade, that is a good thing. I for one am often impressed with what the "citizens" of third world countries (emerging) can do with what "many" Americans would not even attempt (complaining that the "boss boss didn't provide them with adequate tools" to do the job?? Before anyone starts flaming, I would encourage us all to focus on the "pride" of workmanship, discipline, ethics and Character. Those are the attributes IMHO that transcend borders, language and cultures. A couple of years ago I was in the Philippines and with my jaw dropped most of the time witnessed what can be fabricated, welded, finished and cared for with "pride", and I personally watched the "craftsmen" do the work with either OA or SMAW from equipment, often thrown away by Americans 50 years ago.
I recently met on a UK mig forum a gentleman that had purchased a Dynasty and together (me being a novice) but willing, worked with him to set it up and get him going on a project. (he was utilizing the UK forum because of the intimidation he received by asking "newbie" questions on a US welding forum. (I didn't ask which one)
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OK, I was being an ass and you guys called me on it. I guess I just needed a good kick in the head and you were all more than happy to oblige!
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In this video Conversation, Denis Alexander asserts that contemporary Christians are not taking the early chapters of Genesis seriously enough.
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In this video Conversation, N.T. Wright explores how the ancient Jewish audience read Genesis before and up to the time that Jesus arrived. He asserts that readers of Genesis today who focus simply on the number of days of creation and whether there is evidence in the text pointing to an old or new earth—are in effect not reading the complete text.
John Walton offers some important reminders in this video with regard to how we should approach a reading of the book of Genesis. While it is a text that is written for us—in the sense that it was written for all people in all times and places—it was not written to us.
Genesis 1 and 2 tell the story of creation, and it says things that are at odds with what modern people know to be true of the world and universe around us. One of those issue concerns the second day of creation (Genesis 1:6-8), where God made the "expanse" or the "firmament".
In the ancient world people were inclined to be much more interested in issues like order, functions, roles and general operations than in the material stuff of the physical world. Because of this, even their thinking about creation is more focused on the functional rather than the material.
We at BioLogos believe that God used the process of evolution to create all the life on earth today. While we accept the science of evolution, we emphatically reject evolutionism. Evolutionism is the atheistic worldview that says life developed without God and without purpose. Instead, we agree with Christians who adhere to Intelligent Design and Creationism that the God of the Bible created the universe and all life. Christians disagree, however, on how God created. Young Earth Creationists believe that God created just 6,000 to 10,000 years ago and disagree with much of mainstream science. Supporters of Intelligent Design accept more of evolutionary science, but argue that some features of life are best explained by direct intervention by an intelligent agent rather than by God's regular way of working through natural processes. We at BioLogos agree with the modern scientific consensus on the age of the earth and evolutionary development of all species, seeing these as descriptions of how God created. The term BioLogos comes from the Greek words bios (life) and logos (word), referring to the opening of the Gospel of John. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made."
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Team Duckworth produced solid results in the second leg of the Oregon Tuna Classic in Ilwaco, Washington on August 6th, and donated their 5 largest tuna to the impressive pile of more than 5300 pounds headed for local food banks.
While not in the money, the Duckworth team boated 24 tuna pre-fishing the day prior and 16 more on tournament day.
"It was a great weekend in Ilwaco where fishermen were pleasantly surprised to find calm seas," said OTC Chairman, Del Stevens. "Saturday morning 53 teams showed up at roll call and had the pleasure of running two days back to back on a nice ocean. The bite was sketchy at times and the size of the fish really varied. One moment you would be landing peanuts and the next it was pigs."
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Sebastian Vettel is confident he will be competitive irrespective of the weather conditions come Sunday's Canadian Grand Prix.
Although Vettel secured his third pole position at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve in the wet on Saturday, this is one venue where he has yet to triumph.
The German came close in 2011 before a mistake at Turn Six on the final lap allowed Jenson Button to snatch the victory.
Vettel, though, gave himself a fighting chance to make amends when he secured pole position by 0.087s ahead of Lewis Hamilton.
"It was very, very tricky because you never knew what the conditions were like next time you were out. Obviously it was intermediate tyres throughout but extremely tricky to adapt," said the Red Bull racer.
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Should High Schools implement condom availability programs?
This is a controversial and polemic approach to reduce rates of sexually transmitted diseases and unintended pregnancy among teenagers. Data from different sources has shown that is at the age of fifteen, on average, that teenagers have their first sexual relation. However, condoms are not used by most of them (in the State of Sao Paulo, Brazil, it is used by only 56% of the individuals aged between 13 and 18).
The condom availability program appears not to have produced an increase in sexual activity among high school students, and it appears to have led to improved condom use. Nevertheless, social and political aspects play a role on this issue.
Is the program necessary?
Since it's a public health issue, should religion and cultural aspects interfere?
Is it moral from your point of view? Why?
Pros and cons
I'm a 17 year old student from Brazil and I'm looking for opinions about this issue that could help me and my school's student council to discuss with the administration the implementation of the condom availability program for High School students.
Thank you!
Mar 29 2011: The thing is easy: YES.
1.) Nobody will start fucking around, just 'cause contraception is available.
Nobody who wants to have sex will go "oh well -no let's not have any until I can afford Condoms at 50 cents a piece."
2.) Protected Sex is always better than unprotected Sex.
Easy - isn't it.
3.) ah yeah.. and if you believe in "no Sex before marriage" - there's something REALLY wrong with your worldview. It's one thing to make it the behaviour of your own choice... but judging other teenagers?
How perverted can someone be - to think sex is something bad, or evil...?
Mar 29 2011: I agree with you Alexander!
Martim Cutum
Mar 29 2011: I think it's a fucking great idea. One person without AIDS already makes it worth it.
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Mar 29 2011: Thanks for answering bud!Mar 29 2011: You nailed it Martim!Apr 4 2011: Firstly let me appauld you for posting this comment. I love that you are reaching out to the community for advice, comments on this topic. Its a tough one.
The biggest thing about having a condom program at your school is STIGMA. Getting over that is the hardest part of any new sexual educationt campaign. The other thing is getting the message across to the parents. We are not living in the same day and age that they did. Times have changed and kids are having sex younger and younger.
But isn't it better to be safe than sorry. I bet you would find similar states for the amount of condom use between ages 13 - 18 no matter where you go. Its not cool to wear a condom. When I was in high school I went to a public health education forum - where they gave out condoms and posters, and I actually distributed them around the school and hung posters on the wall. I got in trouble mind, by the principal (because the content wasn't appropriate) but I simply told him that I got it from a public health education forum and he backed down - didn't really have much choice.
If you promote safe a kid isn't going to care - whether its STD's or HIV - they just don't care. You have to make sex fun and acceptable and the promotion of condom acceptable. Have you thought of condom vending machines? It should somehow be anonymous so that kids don't feel strange about taking condoms. Lets face it kids are going to have sex whether you say its ok or not, why not give them the supplies to make them safer.Apr 3 2011: I think it may help around 50%. But rest of the 50% badly impact on the society, By this every one in that age starts make illegal relations. Just creating awareness is fine.Mar 31 2011: First of all human's body is programmed to have sex at this age. However, our cultural development does not approve to have children at that age. Typical problem : Culture vs. Nature. Actually culture is a chid of nature so the reason because of which culture exists is that sometimes Natural actions makes people unhappy(e.g. in most of the cases teenage mothers have an awful life). In my opinion condoms aren't expensive so this "condom availability program for High School students" seems good to me. Moreover once teens try them they will start buying and protecting themselves. The problem is that there are students that would feel depressed because they will think that their development is slow.
Melissa Bos
Mar 29 2011: When I read your question, the only right answer in my opinion is YES, no doubt about it.
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People/ adolesents are having sex, that is a fact. (with or without a condom)
The problem lies in the fact that there is still a taboo on sex. People are still uneducated about sex, don't know the consequences of sex AND the meaning of sex.
Desides sex being an act of pleasure and love, Sex is first an act of respect.
So wearing a condom is a sign of respect towards the other person.
I think we have to come to a point that the usage of a condom is the same as wearing a seat-belt in a car.
I believe when we distibute free condoms in combination with open minded en factual information about the human body and sex. The respect for other people will increase and the speading of STD's and unwanted pregnacies will decrease.
As in the matter of the involvent of religion and culture, I believe these two institutions are responsible for the taboo on sex. By labeling people based on their opinion af a person.
I realize a person is formed by their religion and the culture they are in. But still this person in very capable to show respect towards another person and protect them from STD's and unwanted pregnacies.
I truly hope that some day we will live in a STD free world, where everyone respect one another.
Mar 29 2011: Melissa, you pointed two very important issues: the respect and the meaning of sex.
"So wearing a condom is a sign of respect towards the other person."
That was beautiful, thank you!Mar 29 2011: "wearing a condom is a sign of respect towards the other person". Brilliant.
Eve Ash
Apr 3 2011: Great idea! Yes I totally agree. But we need education along with the supply of condoms. I have been producing videos on sex education for young people and am just finishing one on herpes. Last one was on chlamydia. It would be ideal to make condoms freely available in schools. Sex, marriage, relationships are all different topics, and whilst they overlap STRONGLY for some, the data is that they are separate topics in practice for most young people. Having condoms available will not make someone who doesn't want to have sex yet have it.Mar 29 2011: I agree with you guys but then again numbers show a person and a partner are more likely to have sex if they feel protected so why not stop the issue and remove protection until someone is ready to share sex inside of a marriageable ground. But by giving out condoms you are basically saying its ok to do it we are just trying to help
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Apr 1 2011: Drew, I bascially agree with you that the best thing to do is to wait until you are ready to share 'sex'. There are two problems with this though:
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1. The definition of 'marriageable ground', as you call it, is probably something we will never agree on and each person has to define for himself. I'm sure if you ask two teenagers madly in love, they will both tell you that they can imagine marrying the other person. What are the critera for 'marriageable ground'? How do you define it?
2. Despite the noble idea of 'waiting' for the right person, statistics show: People DON'T wait. No matter how much parents and teachers want them to. So while I do think it's important that parents, teachers and spiritual leaders explain to kids the importance of waiting for the right person, it's equally important to provide the means of safe sex, should they decide they are ready.
I grew up in Germany and starting in 8th grade, we had condoms readily available (for free) at school following a one-week seminar on 'Love'. Yes, love, not sex. It covered the classic 'birds and bees' issues, biological aspects and all. But it also dealt with the emotional side, relationships, trust, dealing with disappointment, etc. I thought the combination of the two was so important!
And btw, for a country that quite freely deals with sex and all that goes with it (condom vending machines!), you might find it interesting that despite all of that, German kids are having their first sex at 17,6 years. In the US, scores more conservative in that department, it's 18 years. And in the UK it's 18,3.
A bit more food for thought:
The US leads the western world in teenage pregnancy incidents and 1 in 4 teenage girls who participated in abstinence programs have or have had an STD in their life. If that doesn't make a decent case for encouraging condom use, I don't know what does.Mar 29 2011: No, When you are setting up protection programs and other stuff a message comes across to teenagers that okay there is a problem but instead of fixing the problem we are going to set up programs to let them do it but try to do it "safely." They are saying that teenagers are too much work to put into protecting them and telling them that sex is bad in any way until marriage. Even if you are not a Christian when you have sex before marriage your not just risking STD's and pregnancy (which is bad enough), but when you have sex a chemical is releases into each others body that makes you more attracted or more stuck to that person. Meaning once you enter sex with another person your natural feelings will be geared towards that person. It's just like the old kidnapper story. The story is that a stranger pulls up to a kid and tells that kid to come with him and he has candy in the car. The kid might get some "candy" but hes stuck with that kidnapper. When you have sex before marriage your ruining your chance of a good healthy marriage in the future.
Mar 29 2011: Drew, the problem is that most people have sex before marriage and with different partners, so we need to prevent SDTs and unintended pregnancy, specially between teenagers. By making condoms available we're not increasing sexual activity, as data shows. This is the way to eliminate the risks of SDTs and pregnancy. As Melissa said, wearing a condom is a sign of respect towards the other person, and I believe that this attitude Increases the feelings you mentioned. Relating to the kidnapper story, isn't it possible that the person can also get stucked with SDTs and pregnancy if she does not use condoms when having sex?Mar 29 2011: Drew, your opinion on sex before marriage is a personal belief, which must be respected. But we must acknowledge that many other people don't think like you. The fact is that a great number of teenagers is already having sex, despite the presence of condoms or not. The benefit of this project would be to provide an easier access to condoms to people who have nothing against sex before marriage, and that are having unproteccted sex. Studies have proven that the disponibilization of condoms in schools hasn't incrreased sexual activity and reduced the number of STD infected people.
Mar 29 2011: I agree with you guys but then again numbers show a person and a partner are more likely to have sex if they feel protected so why not stop the issue and remove protection until someone is ready to share sex inside of a marriageable ground. But by giving out condoms you are basically saying its ok to do it we are just trying to helpMar 29 2011: In order to produce healthy adults, we must have been healthy adolescents.
So yes, I think we should raise awareness.
...only distributing condoms and making them available won't help. They will just sit there in a box. Or they will take it, but not use it when The Moment comes. "They are awful, I don't feel good in it, I forgot in the spur of the moment" We have to explain that their comfort and pleasure is not without consequences. And it only has to happen "one quick time"
I don't know many HIV+ people, only one and he's only an acquaintance from another town. So, you see, this is a far away reality for us, young people in most countries (I'm a 20 year old, also from Brazil), which leaves the danger out of sight (and therefore out of mind)
We have to insist on the fact that diseases are silent villains. And, you know, besides from the diseases. and despite having birth control, condoms are the best way for a guy to be sure he won't make a baby.
Because young girls these days are out of control. How will they be respected? They use their sex to get places, to get to people, to jobs. That is not so far away from using sex to get money, right? Sex should be enough by itself, and for yourself.
And, as I've seen now with a close male friend of mine, they LIE. A lot. They will say they are on the pill and make you sure you can do everything without protection, and you know, it isn't hard to convince a guy of that, right?
So the girls make babies. Not because they want to nurture a child, no. They use the child to get places too. Get more money, get that guy to stick with you for life. Those 15 minutes without a rubber don't sound too worthy now, right?
Isn't that a bit fucked up?
I still have no idea what kind of argument will make them realize the risks of sex life, but we must get there. And it must come from us, young people. They don't listen much to the elderly though they should.
Um grande abraço, LucasMar 29 2011: I think every country in the world needs to educate it's people about safe sex, and there needs to be at the very least condoms available to every person in the world.
"Is the program necessary?" Yes, for the sexual health of people engaged in sex, as well as the ability to reduce the current human population, which is becoming a real problem.
"Since it's a public health issue, should religion and cultural aspects interfere?" Well, I live in America where, technically, we're supposed to have separation of church and state (though, it doesn't really work out that way) so I say no, religion shouldn't interfere. But, that's my viewpoint...other people will vehemently disagree with me.
"Is it moral from your point of view? Why?" Yes, because it prevents the spread of STDs and unwanted pregnancies, and slows down our dangerously skyrocketing world population.Mar 29 2011: Brazil did a very good job in promoting prevention using "camisinhas" for at least 2 decades.
My only concern of making condoms available in high schools would be that it could lead to increased sexual activity, however, if what you mentioned is correct and this concern is unfounded, then making them available shouldn't be a problem.
Obviously, beside making condoms available, education is an important factor as well, both in school and in the family.
Mar 29 2011: Hi Harald, thanks for answering!
Yes, the government is also making condoms available in public high schools, however, it's hard to implement this program at private schools. Some people at this schools still thinks that sexually transmitted diseases and unintended pregnancy are exclusive problems of poor populations, although you can get condoms for free here in Brazil. The problem pointed by the government is not financial, is psychological. Teenagers don't feel comfortable buying condoms or simply getting it for free. Schools seem to be a more appropriate place, where the teenager feels more comfortable to get condoms.
And I agree with you: education is essential.
Mar 29 2011: Yeah, I know.
For those who don't know, here in Brazil you can go to any health public post and get a bunch of the government condoms, that, must I add, have proven to bee much more resistant and effective than the brands you can buy.
But you know, I've never been there to get those condoms for free. I buy them. To buy, you must have the will, the "guts" to face the cashier (it's not that big of a deal, teens!), you know, "it's a drag"
And also for your info, the parents that put their child on private schools (such as my own mom and dad) are what we all call
They are the adults that prefer not to resolve about issues, but makeup them. They stick in bad marriages for appearance. They are the people who let the internet raise their kids. They are the adults who lock the children up in big castles, so they will not see the dangers of the world (but one day they will, and will they be prepared?)
And as you can imagine, they have no intimacy with their kids to talk about sex.
How can we expect they will take and use condoms just because they are available, if even their parents never brought attention to it?
Mar 29 2011: Marianna, can you believe that there are some students at my school saying that the government condoms are not as resistant and effective as the brand ones you can buy?And yes, our challenge is to convinve parents, some of them are afraid of programs like condom availability in High Schools. I just can't understand why they makeup issues like this one, as you said, and I also don't know how to convince them. Ideas???Mar 29 2011: Harald, is an increase of sexual activity necessarily bad? I believe that the will to do it is already within the students, they would just release their locked up desires. Of course, there's a legal responsibility of the school not to estimulate sex among underage students, but I wouldn't consider more protected sex, in it's concept, something bad.


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No matter your field, your communication style, or your organizational habits, you're likely bound to the holy quartet of organizational work tools: email, conference call, chat, and calendar. On Blinkist's blog Page 19, Caitlin Schiller diagnoses a lot of the wasted time and unproductiveness that plagues the modern working world as misuse of said work tools. Consider the common problems of workplace chat that likely plague you, as they do all modern professionals at one time or another:
The main problem with office chat is that people feel freer to write off-the-cuff questions because they're not technically interrupting—the recipient can still choose whether or not to respond. The thing is, we're reactive creatures, and we feel that we need to stop what we're doing and attend to the people who ping us. Even though your intention with getting in touch by chat is to be unobtrusive, you have little control over whether your colleague's work is interrupted. If she sees a message notification, chances are she'll look. Even if she doesn't respond outright, a portion of her focus will now be diverted by your remark or question. In general, chat should only be used for quick questions that are keeping you from moving forward with your work, or to set up a time with a co-worker to talk through a larger issue. Anything else, put in an email so you're not disturbing your colleagues.
When in doubt, only chat if you would want to be chatted. The caveat, of course, is that, best practices aside, everyone has slightly different preferences and affinities when it comes to work tools. So: ask the handful of people with whom you work most closely what their specific inclinations are when it comes to using chat, and also email, phone call, or calendar invites, so you can maximize your collective productivity. One person may prefer that you email them even with yes/no questions rather than interrupt their workflow with a drive-by. Another may want to untangle a project snafu together over chat rather than phone so that there's a written record he or she can refer back to later. For most creatives, especially when it comes to work tools, getting sh*t done is a team sport and there's no one-size-fits-all uniform.
There's never enough time. There never will be enough time. Time management is a doomed battle, especially for creatives who are constantly juggling a variety of projects.
In an article on Quartz, writer and psychologist Tony Crabbe describes how our modern obsession with time management grew out of the Industrial Revolution, when factories needed to coordinate hundreds of people's shifts in synchronicity. That tidal shift from the concept of task management to time management is responsible for what has today become a monumental issue: We are all way too busy, scrambling to get way too much done, in an ultimately futile effort to clear our inboxes and complete our to-do lists often to the detriment of deeper, more meaningful output:
[W]hen we complete more tasks, all that happens is more appear to take their place—send more emails, get more replies. In essence, if we do more as a result of better managing our time, we don't get it all done—we just become busier…. When we scatter our attention across a thousand micro-activities, we prevent ourselves from engaging deeply or thinking properly….
Research by Microsoft, for example, suggests that 77% of UK workers feel they have had a productive day if they have emptied their inbox. It constantly horrifies me to see the number of blogs and books which focus on the goal of getting to an empty inbox or zero tasks, as if either achievement was worthwhile. No business or life was changed by an empty inbox.
Here's a (not "the", but "a") solution: first, stop measuring your personal success or productivity by the number of emails that languish in your inbox. Accept the discomfort that comes from letting some messages go unanswered for longer than usual.
Next, consciously carve out time every single day (i.e., ironically, put it on your calendar) to X out of your Outlook or Gmail, turn your phone on silent and put it in your pocket or face down on your desk, and remove any visible clocks or timekeepers from the vicinity. Luxuriate in the absence of time-tracking, and just immerse yourself in the deep creative, contemplative thinking that can't happen when you're even subconsciously, subtly aware of how many minutes have gone by. By doing so, you're taking back the power to manage your actual work, not your time.
We can't change the basic unwritten code of how the modern working world operates. At least for the time being, the email inbox and other digital message repositories (project management software, IMs, texts, Twitter DMs) hold us accountable based on a temporal structure. You wouldn't be a responsible working adult if you just decided to answer only the emails you felt like answering, whenever, based on your level of creative inspiration. But you can create a functional balance between task management and time management that's short of the incorrectly-hallowed inbox zero. Take back your tasks, and in so doing you'll take back your time.
If you want to heighten the experience of your work, you need to appeal to more than just one of the five senses. Without realizing it, we tend to only cater to one of our senses in our work—for example, designers or web developers who focus on sight. Abstract visual artist Devon Sioui explains how incorporating even just one more sensation can change the overall experience:
My sister-in-law Faye [Harnest] is an author, poet, and braille transcriber. She always had this idea to incorporate braille in a visual way with paintings and texture… She'll punch her poem in a braille machine on acetate and from there we will attach it to the canvas. Then there is a lot of paint layering overtop and incorporating the edges so it doesn't look like it's taped on… [we want] people to come [and] explore the paintings by touch… because you don't ever really get to do that.
By engaging the sense of touch along with sight, Sioui and Harnest are able to enhance the overall artwork experience for both themselves and the audience. Besides visually taking in the dynamic colors and composition, the artwork takes one way the audience experiences the world around them and integrates it into another, heightening the senses.
Industrial designer Jinsop Lee started evaluating his life experiences based on senses by creating a graph with a scale from one to ten along the vertical axis and the five senses along the horizontal. Every time he had a memorable experience, he recorded it like a five senses diary. He found that the best experiences engaged more senses on a higher level than others easily forgotten. Once he was aware of what made for the best experiences, he began appealing to more senses within his design work. Lee challenges us to incorporate as many senses as possible to make any experience more memorable:
Now in the middle of all this five senses work, I suddenly remembered the solar-powered clocks projectfrom my youth. And I realized this theory also explains why Chris' clock is so much better than mine. You see, my clock only focuses on sight, and a little bit of touch. Here's Chris' clock. It's the first clock ever that uses smell to tell the time. In fact, in terms of the five senses, Chris' clock is a revolution.
And that's what this theory taught me about my field. You see, up till now, us designers, we've mainly focused on making things look very pretty, and a little bit of touch, which means we've ignored the other three senses. Chris' clock shows us that even raising just one of those other senses can make for a brilliant product.
Of course, not every line of work will be able to add extra senses to a project—or at least, not without having to really sit and think outside of the box. Which in itself is the whole point: to expand your thinking about what's involved in your work. Perfect experiences engage all the senses, so why focus on only one? See what other senses you could pull in. It could be what turns a good project into an unexpectedly great one.
Thanks to Cool Hunting, this week's sponsor of Workbook.
Each year, Cool Hunting interviews hundreds of makers, inventors, and entrepreneurs that are just on the cusp of breaking out and becoming the next big thing. So when they selected their 25 most interesting innovators, we paid attention. The Cool Hunting 25 is a eclectic, diverse list of people that are pushing the boundaries of their field, like the chef democratizing gardening, and the recent college grade revolutionizing the way you'll charge your phone.
You can read the entire CH25 list here. Below, the 99U Team picked three of our favorites that embody the ethos of making ideas happen.
A recent college grad, Perry is attempted to rid the world of one of its more annoying inhabitants: cords. Already receiving $10 million in funding and interest from major brands like Starbucks, uBeam might just end the tyranny of outlet.
As any city-dweller can tell you, growing a garden in an urban environment requires a bit of creativity. Stuffed in a window frame or planted in a nearby community space, most urban gardens aren't as fruitful or as accessible as they could be. Enter Urban Cultivator, a self-contained automatic garden that can fit into most kitchens, giving you fresh eats on the regular.
In an effort to make performances more engaging Jonathan Sparks has been on a mission to improve the live instrument ensemble. His most unique invention: the Nomis.
As a leader, it's easy to devote most of your mental energy to tackling the "big" things: bringing in new clients, money flow, the level of work quality. But as Ben Horowitz, cofounder and partner of venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, has discovered in his years advising and investing in startups, focusing on the big things is often actually to your detriment. Without intricate knowledge of what's going on at the ground level, you can't effect change.
For example, let's say you and your team have been finding yourselves struggling to ship projects on schedule. Rather than simply laying out new, stricter expectations for meeting deadlines (which will not only not inspire or motivate your team, but will also not give them clear direction or address any of the issues they might be facing that caused the problem to begin with) start small.
Identify some of the factors that might be causing delays at different milestones along the project path. Is the client not delivering feedback on time? Are there too many needless meetings? Does the group need a more organized communication setup? Based on the insights you glean, make adjustments to the current conditions and take note of how they affect the outcome of shipping on time. Repeat the process until you've found winning circumstances, thereby accomplishing the larger goal.
Horowitz suggest getting into the weeds and really understanding that changing the little things is how you make real progress:
If you are worried about the quarter, you might think that it's a good idea to call your head of sales twice a day to get the status. By doing so, you might think you are creating the appropriate sense of urgency. In reality, you are just distracting her from closing the quarter twice a day. In fact, by radically overemphasizing the quarter, you will likely cause your sales leader to begin focusing on the cover up — the byzantine set of excuses that she will deploy in the case that she actually misses her number….
Similarly, if you are deeply worried about engineering throughput, lamenting that your engineers don't work as hard as other companies that you've heard about will achieve very little other than making your engineers think they are the "B" team. On the other hand, spending time going through their day and really understanding what's slowing them down in the code base, where their build environment is working against them and how the communication overhead between groups slows them down might help a great deal…
You should set high-level goals, but those goals will or will not be achieved by the organization that you assigned them to. If you want to help them reach their goals, do so by focusing on the little things…. Focus on the little things and the big things will take care of themselves.
By gathering the granular data and learning the intricacies of the situation, you discover the actual mechanics that go into the process of what may seem to be a small task but, in aggregate with other small tasks, adds up to real impact. In so doing, you glean invaluable insights that end up driving progress overall.
Fast Company recently collected productivity tips from several dozen top designers, and one of the recurring themes was the power of the reading break to re-energize and reflect:
Joe Stewart, partner, Work & Co.: My trick is reading. The first thing I do when I get to the office is start reading. I have a stack of books on my desk, all design related, and I'll read for a little bit. Not long, maybe 15 to 20 minutes. I switch back from different books on different days. It calms me down, gets me focused, and lets me think about the bigger picture… When I am running out of steam and I'm getting distracted, I grab a book and do the same thing. Read for 15 to 20 minutes. I find myself re-focused and fresh, it's like taking a nap. I don't know enough about these things, but it seems like I'm using a different part of my brain—so my design brain gets to rest and my reading brain stimulates me. I come back ready to go and feeling content.
Jared Ficklin, Argo Design: I voraciously consume science fiction and peruse several design blogs a day. It keeps the lateral thought pathways open.
Hector Ouilhet Olmos, product designer, Google: Whenever I need an extra hit of inspiration, I browse books from James Turrell, Tadao Ando, or Santiago Calatrava while enjoying a glass of scotch.
Taking a moment to read at the beginning of the day or on a break during your workflow can really recharge your brain, juicing your mental pathways with fresh inspiration. You never know what unexpected insights you'll be able to pull from the history of Rome or Warren Buffet's approach to investing. Bonus points if it's a physical book; reading print is a respite for your screen-saturated eyes, and leads to greater comprehension of the material thanks to the lack of distraction. Fitting in reading breaks throughout your day also contributes to your general knowledge bank, which serves you well for future creative thinking. The more you know about a wide variety of subjects, the more nuanced thought you can apply to a slew of situations.
Keep a stack of interesting books on or near your desk and you'll always have material on hand to nurture your mind when you need it most.
Yes, notebooks are an easy place to capture ideas inspired by everyday life, no matter where you are. More importantly though, if you begin to review the daily notes or doodles left in your notebook, you will begin to find trends and themes within your smaller ideas that can be brought together and refined. Being able to connect the dots on the patterns between your work and your life can lead to work you had never considered a possibility before.
In an interview with Stussy, Lyons discloses he has always doodled monsters but it wasn't until his daughter refused to eat her school lunches before they were really developed. He would include daily notes in her meal with monsters saying crazy things like, "Eat your eggs or I'll break your legs." After an entire school year, he had a collection of monsters and began including them in his artwork. Once you start reviewing your work, you'll begin noticing themes and trends like Lyons. According to author Austin Kleon in his book Show Your Work, this is the way to really make use of all your ideas:
When you detect these patterns, you can start gathering these bits and pieces and turn them into something bigger and more substantial. You can turn your flow into stock. For example, a lot of the ideas in this book [Show Your Work] started out as tweets, which then became blog posts, which then became book chapters. Small things, over time, can get big.
The first step: Always carry a notebook. If you don't remember your ideas, you can't revisit them later. Second: Keep all your ideas together in one notebook. As a creative, it's tempting to start multiple sketchbooks under different themes or mediums. Try to limit yourself so you don't have to round up multiple books for your review.
By using one notebook, you'll find a lot of smaller ideas that otherwise might have eventually gotten pushed aside for the meatier, well developed concepts. Those are the real gems. Creative director and illustrator Kevin Lyons explains how he tries to use every one of his ideas:
No matter what I'm doing, I'm not an artist. I know I say that and people think that I'm being sarcastic or facetious or whatever. But I am really not because I approach things always with a designer's mentality, even when I am doing so called 'art'. I'll do a zine that's all the post it notes of me making monsters while I've been on the phone… Almost everything I do will eventually get seen. I'm like an old time chef that uses the entire animal, you know, cooks every part of the animal.
Alternatively, you can consolidate your concepts on an online platform. This includes the additional benefit of gaining public feedback and the help of others in recognizing trends. Once you notice a common thread, develop it and see where it takes you. Don't let any of your work go unused.


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Ana is out of the Australian Open in Melbourne following a 6-2, 6-4 defeat against fourth seed Agnieszka Radwanska. Although the figures on the scoreboard are unambiguous, the 25-year-old had her chances to compete with her opponent from Poland, but the virtually flawless performance by Radwanska proved simply too good.
Ana started the match poorly. She was broken in the opening game, while Radwanska easily held her serve to love to take a quick 2-0 lead.
The No.13 seed gradually improved her level. She followed the example from her opponent by holding serve to love in game three and with some classy points, she got into a 0-30 lead in the next game. Luck wasn't on her side in the next rally when a forehand passing shot just missed the line and although she earned two break points later, the Radwanska serve was invulnerable.
Somewhat atypically, Ana's forehand left her in the lurch during the first half of the match and despite limiting the damage with some wonderful backhand winners down-the-line, it was Radwanska who scored a second break in the seventh game.
The shrewd Pole maintained her incredible solidity and served out the opening set to love, with just two unforced errors coming from her racket during the first 27 minutes of the match.
The second set followed a similar pattern. Again, Ana made a slow start and conceded an early break, before holding serve comfortably in the third game.
However, it was Radwanska who proved her tenacity and ultra-consistency on the crucial points. Moreover the Pole was serving extremely well, clearing away five break points in set two with some well-placed serves.
Just as it had occurred in the first set, Radwanska finished the match in a chic way. She held serve to love in the tenth game and secured her place in the quarter-finals with an ace.
"Obviously I'm disappointed," said Ana. "I really feel I was miss timing a lot of balls in the first set. I started playing better in the second set, but she played a good match. She's a really tough player.
"And rankings don't lie. She's there because she deserves it."
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