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First post, please be easy...
So I had the opportunity to buy a Goldstar 300 SS for little monies and I thought it a prudent investment. It has been rewired for remote operation which is in the process of being undone, and I am 90% there save the contactor, which I can't seem to get to stay open most likely due to the coil.
Anyone here have one of these that could give me a walkthru as to the wires specific to the coil? I am so close (it runs when you hold the ON switch) I hate to drag it to the repair shop for a 2 minute fix from someone who knows these things. Major thanks in advance...
One more question, and I am a total welding n00b, it appears that this machine is fully stick welding capable as I have read from the new models on Millers website. What would it take to get this baby to TIG? I have no leads, gas, regulator etc which I know I would need, but is there anything I need to do to the actual welder to get it to TIG? I saw a high frequency device to add, but not sure if this is a necessity For steel TIG, could I hook up the tig torch, gas, and a foot petal and go?
Really appreciate the help in advance. Peter
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Sailah, welcome to the board
I did a lot of searching on your question but could not find anything and I do not know much about the wiring inside. Here is a link from Miller where you can download an owners manual for your Goldstar and that should give you a diagram. Hope this helps.
What else is there besides welding and riding. Besides that
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You do know that it is a 3 phase only machine right?
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Thanks for the links, I do know it is 3 phase which is why it was so cheap. When I rewired it from 208 3 phase to 230 3 phase, apparantly I read the transformer wrong which held the contacter closed. My electrical engineer buddy came over and spotted the mistake and I am now in business. Machine starts up and runs fine and stops when the stop button is pressed.
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22 Sep 2008
|National Hunting and Fishing Day Open House at Beagle Wear
Fishing and hunting are a big part of Vermont's heritage. For most native Vermonters, hunting is a tradition going back generations. There are many people here who take a week or two of vacation each year to go deer hunting. The regional radio station, WDEV, even broadcasts a few minutes each morning from a deer camp nearby once deer season opens.
VT deer hunting season is coming in the near future and the timing of the National Hunting and Fishing Day is well placed. To celebrate, Beagle Outdoor Wear is holding its annual open house at its store in Johnson VT , about 45 minutes north of us. The event goes from 9:00 am to 4:00 pm and features some of the northeast's best hunters such as the Benoit Brothers and Bob Howe from Maine's Pine Grove Lodge.
Everyone is invited to this family event especially young people and adult newcomers who are interested in learning more about outdoor sports and how hunting and fishing affect Vermonts wildlife.
Also attending the event will be VT Fish & Wildlife officials , Kingdom Knives, Outdoors Magazine, Iron Skillet Seasonings, VT Federation of Sportsmen, and the VT Big Game Trophy Club. Beagle Wear will be displaying their jackets and other clothing, some of which will be on sale. Plus, there will be a barbecue and door prizes.
Beagle Wear is traditional VT outdoor clothing manufactured in the USA and guaranteed for life. The company store is open most days but if you can't visit Vermont, you can order from their website.
Beagle Barn, Route 15, a few miles east of Johnson, VT
(c) 2008 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus Inn
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21 Sep 2008
|Vote for the Best Bear for the Job
Did they have to make the ears stick out so much for the bear on the left? At least the bear on the right does not have age spots.
Who is the best bear to take on a bear of a job? You decide '08 . . . vote by purchasing the Obama Bear or the McCain Bear at Vermont Teddy Bear.
I imagine the company is keeping track of which one sells the most but they don't say anything on their website about releasing the results. It would be an interesting poll.
You can stop in their headquarters store in Shelburne VT, a few miles south of Burlington. You can also tour the factory there. The website link has information about tour and store hours.
VT Teddy Bear also has a store in Waterbury Center VT which has a full selection of bears and costumes plus a Pajama Gram outlet store where you can often find some very good bargains.
If you aren't traveling to Vermont before the election, you can order online of course and put your candidate on display for all to see - much more attention-getting than a bumper sticker or lapel pin.
I hope your candidate wins but, if not, you can curl up with your "best candidate" bear to comfort you through the next four years.
(c) 2008 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus Inn
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27 Feb 2008
|CNN Article On Stephen Huneck Dog Chapel
I've written Vermont Travel Notes entries about Stephen Huneck's unique dog chapel in St. Johnsbury VT as well as his artwork and galleries around the state (the newest is in Stowe). His whimsical and sometimes touching artwork is very popular with dog owners all over the world. As a result, he has received publicity in a large number of places, the most recent being CNN and its website. The article is entitled "Doggy Disneyland draws animals, owners by the pack" and it's a good description of Stephen, his artwork, and his 175 acre farm with widely known dog chapel. It's quite a structure, requiring an expenditure of several hundred thousand dollars, and well worth a visit if you are a dog lover. From our inn, it is a little over a 45 minute drive to Dog Mountain..
Another great place to visit in the St. Johnsbury area is the Fairbanks Museum. I also recommend a drive north to Lake Willoughby and then over to the area around the town of Island Pond to do some moose spotting.
(c) 2008 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus Inn
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|Waterbury's Alchemist Brew Pub Starts Blogging
The Alchemist brew pub and restaurant in Waterbury has been hugely popular right from day one four years ago. They have about seven excellent brews available including some standards and some specials from time to time. Moreover, they actually have a chef preparing food so the fare there is much better than the average hamburger and fries that most bars have. As a result, it is crowded most nights. If you like craft brewed beers, the Alchemist should definitely be on your list of places to visit in Vermont.
John Kimmick, the brew master, just started a blog and has one entry posted so far. It's a pretty good one as a matter of fact and gives the reader a good insight into what kinds of beers he is offering and some of the thought and work that goes into creating them.
The blog is called Notes from the Brewery and is subtitled "or What's Going on Down Here and Why." (The Brewing equipment is in the basement under the pub.)
I've seen quite a number of Vermont blogs get started only to dwindle quickly. That is why I usually wait until I'm sure the blog will really keep going before I recommend it or add it to my list of links in the left column of this blog. But I'm making an exception this time and we'll see how it works out. John even mentions being busy with work and family so I won't be surprised if the Alchemist blog has only occasional entries but that is OK as long as they are as good as the first one and John keeps writing them once in a while.
In addition to the blog, take a look at The Alchemist website for more information about the brews, the menu, news, operating hours, map, etc.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus Inn
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4 Nov 2007
|New Long Trail Map Published by the Green Mountain Club
We're lucky to have the Green Mountain Club offices just a few minutes drive from our inn ( (map here). It is the single best source of information about hiking in Vermont. The club is best known for being the organization that maintains Vermont's Long Trail, the only trail that spans the length of the state from the Massachusetts border to the Canadian border.
The club has just issued its latest version of the Long Trail Map. You can order on the club's website which also has hiking books.
(c) 2007 Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus Inn
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25 Oct 2007
|Spooky Beer from Magic Hat
The folks at Magic Hat Brewing are known for being, shall we say, a little off beam but they make a high quality product, have fun doing it, and contribute generously to charities.
They produce special runs from time to time and here is their Halloween seasonal offering:
The beer is great plus you get a distinctive box you can use to store your Halloween decorations.
They have a factory tour, tastings, and souvenir shop at their South Burlington factory.
(c) Jeff Connor Grunberg Haus Vermont Inn
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Release Notes for Cisco ONS 15327
Release 7.2
Maintenance and Administration
Resolved Caveats for Release 7.2
New Features and Functionality
Network Circuit Automatic Routing Overridable NE Default
Obtaining Documentation and Submitting a Service Request
Release Notes for Cisco ONS 15327
Release 7.2
Note The terms "Unidirectional Path Switched Ring" and "UPSR" may appear in Cisco literature. These terms do not refer to using Cisco ONS 15xxx products in a unidirectional path switched ring configuration. Rather, these terms, as well as "Path Protected Mesh Network" and "PPMN," refer generally to Cisco's path protection feature, which may be used in any topological network configuration. Cisco does not recommend using its path protection feature in any particular topological network configuration.
August 2007
Release notes address closed (maintenance) issues, caveats, and new features for the Cisco ONS 15327 SONET. For detailed information regarding features, capabilities, hardware, and software introduced with this release, refer to Release 7.0 of the Cisco ONS 15327 Procedure Guide, Cisco ONS 15327 Reference Manual, and Cisco ONS 15327 Troubleshooting Guide, and Release 7.2 of the Cisco ONS SONET TL1 Command Guide. For the most current version of the Release Notes for Cisco ONS 15327 Release 7.2, visit the following URL:
Cisco also provides Bug Toolkit, a web resource for tracking defects. To access Bug Toolkit, visit the following URL:
Resolved Caveats for Release 7.2
New Features and Functionality
Obtaining Documentation and Submitting a Service Request
Changes to the Release Notes
This section documents supplemental changes that have been added to the Release Notes for Cisco ONS 15327 Release 7.2 since the production of the Cisco ONS 15327 System Software CD for Release 7.2.
No changes have been added to the release notes for Release 7.2.
Review the notes listed below before deploying the ONS 15327. Caveats with tracking numbers are known system limitations that are scheduled to be addressed in a subsequent release. Caveats without tracking numbers are provided to point out procedural or situational considerations when deploying the product.
Maintenance and Administration
Caution VxWorks is intended for qualified Cisco personnel only. Customer use of VxWorks is not recommended, nor is it supported by Cisco's Technical Assistance Center. Inappropriate use of VxWorks commands can have a negative and service affecting impact on your network. Please consult the troubleshooting guide for your release and platform for appropriate troubleshooting procedures. To exit without logging in, enter a Control-D (hold down the Control and D keys at the same time) at the Username prompt. To exit after logging in, type "logout" at the VxWorks shell prompt.
Note In releases prior to 4.6 you could independently set proxy server gateway settings; however, with Release 4.6.x and forward, this is no longer the case. To retain the integrity of existing network configurations, settings made in a pre-4.6 release are not changed on an upgrade to Release 7.0.x. Current settings are displayed in CTC (whether they were inherited from an upgrade, or they were set using the current GUI).
A CTC client session can disconnect from an ONS node during simultaneous deletion of large numbers of VT level circuits (3000+). Connectivity to the node will recover without any user action. If the condition persists, restart the CTC session to reconnect. This issue is under investigation.
After a static route is provisioned to 0.0.0.0 and then deleted, the default route disappears. If this occurs, reprovision the default gateway. This issue will not be resolved.
An ONS 15327 that does not have an SNTP server reference resets the time to Jan. 1, 1970 during a software activation. A routine common control switchover does not cause the node to lose the time setting. To avoid this issue provision a SNTP server reference. This issue cannot be resolved.
CVs are not positively adjusted after exiting a UAS state. When a transition has been made from counting UAS, at least 10 seconds of non-SES must be counted to exit UAS. When this event occurs, Telcordia GR-253 specifies that CVs that occurred during this time be counted, but they are not. There are no plans to resolve this issue at this time.
A node connection might fail during bulk circuit creation, causing the circuit creation to also fail. For example, this has been seen while creating 224 VT 1.5 protected circuits, on a path protection consisting of eight ONS 15327 nodes. If you experience a bulk circuit creation failure of this type, cancel the circuit creation batch, then delete any incomplete circuits. Restart the batch from the last successful circuit. This issue will not be resolved.
CTC is unable to communicate with an ONS 15327 that is connected via an Ethernet craft port. CTC does, however, communicate over an SDCC link with an ONS 15327 that is Ethernet connected, yielding a slow connection. This situation occurs when multiple ONS 15327s are on a single Ethernet segment and the nodes have different values for any of the following features:
•Enable OSPF on the LAN
•Enable Firewall
•Craft Access Only
When any of these features are enabled, the proxy ARP service on the node is also disabled. The ONS 15327 proxy ARP service assumes that all nodes are participating in the service.
This situation can also occur immediately after the aforementioned features are enabled. Other hosts on the Ethernet segment (for example, the subnet router) may retain incorrect ARP settings for the ONS 15327s.
To avoid this issue, all nodes on the same Ethernet segment must have the same values for Enable OSPF on the LAN, Enable Firewall, and Craft Access Only. If any of these values have changed recently, it may be necessary to allow connected hosts (such as the subnet router) to expire their ARP entries.
You can avoid waiting for the ARP entries to expire on their own by removing the SDCC links from the affected ONS 15327 nodes. This will disconnect them for the purposes of the proxy ARP service and the nodes should become directly accessible over the Ethernet. Network settings on the nodes can then be provisioned as desired, after which the SDCC can be restored.
This issue will not be resolved.
When the topology host is connected to multiple OSPF areas, but CTC is launched on a node that is connected to fewer areas, the topology host appears in CTC, and all nodes appear in the network view, but some nodes remain disconnected. This can occur when the CTC host does not have routing information to connect to the disconnected nodes. (This can happen, for example, if automatic host detection was used to connect the CTC workstation to the initial node.)
CTC will be able to contact the topology host to learn about all the nodes in all the OSPF areas, but will be unable to contact any nodes that are not in the OSPF areas used by the launch node. Therefore, some nodes will remain disconnected in the CTC network view.
To work around this issue, if no firewall enabled, then the network configuration of the CTC host can be changed to allow CTC to see all nodes in the network. The launch node must be on its own subnet to prevent network partitioning, and craft access must not be enabled. The CTC host must be provisioned with an address on the same subnet as the initial node (but this address must not conflict with any other node in the network), and with the default gateway of the initial node. CTC will now be able to contact all nodes in the network.
If a firewall is enabled on any node in the network, then CTC will be unable to contact nodes outside of the initial OSPF areas. This issue will not be resolved.
On Cisco ONS 15327 platforms equipped with XTC cross-connect cards, Ethernet traffic may be lost during a BLSR protection switch, with no accompanying alarm or condition raised. Possible affected circuits will be between Ethernet cards (E100T-4) built over Protection Channel Access (PCA) bandwidth on BLSR spans. When BLSR issues the switch, the PCA bandwidth is preempted. Since there is no longer a connection between the ends of the Ethernet circuit, traffic is lost. Further, in nodes equipped with XTC cards, the E100T-4 cards do not raise an alarm or condition in CTC. This issue will not be resolved.
You cannot delete the standby XTC once it is removed. If you have two XTC cards and then decide to operate with only one, you will get a standing minor alarm. The alarm cannot be removed by CTC. The XTC is a combo card, combining the functionality of the ONS 15454 TCC2, cross connect, DS1 and DS3 cards, with a protection group automatically provisioned. On the ONS 15454, similar behavior occurs for the TCC2 card. The cross connect card for the ONS 15454 can only be deleted if there are no circuits provisioned. DS1 and DS3 cards can only be deleted if they are not in a protection group. User-defined alarm profiles from Release 5.0.x allow you to mask the improper removal alarm from the standby XTC slot without masking any other items if desired, thus avoiding this issue. This issue will not be resolved.
Data IO Cards
When using a G1000-2 card, TIM-P can be mistakenly raised on a PCA circuit after a protection switch. This occurs when path trace is enabled on a PCA circuit that is no longer in use after a protection switch. To work around this issue, either disable path trace or use alarm profiling to filter out the unwanted alarm. This issue will not be resolved.
Excessive Ethernet traffic loss (greater than 60 ms) might occur when the active XTC is removed from the chassis while using the G1000-2 card. On rare occasions, permanent loss of traffic can occur. Do not remove the active XTC from the chassis to force a protection switch. Instead, perform a soft reset of the active XTC through the network management interface. Once the XTC is in standby mode, it can be removed from the chassis without inducing excessive traffic loss.
This issue impacts only cards with Version number 800-18490-01 and is resolved by a newer version of the G1000-2 cards. Cards with Version number 800-18490-02, rev A0 or later incorporate improved hardware PLL circuitry on the G1000-2 line card to allow an active XTC removal without causing excessive traffic loss. The caveat herein is for the previous hardware version.
Path Protection Functionality
Traffic hits can occur in an unprotected to Path Protection topology upgrade in unidirectional routing. If you create an unprotected circuit, then upgrade the unprotected circuit to a Path Protection circuit using Unprotected to Path Protection wizard, selecting unidirectional routing in the wizard, the circuit will be upgraded to a Path Protection circuit. However, during the conversion, traffic hits on the order of 300 ms should be expected. This issue will not be resolved.
With a VT Path Protection circuit, if you inject signals with a thru-mode test set into one path of the circuit in a particular order, you may not see the appropriate alarms. This can occur when you first inject LOP-P, then clear, then inject LOP-V. This issue will not be resolved.
BLSR Functionality
A low memory alarm might be raised when interconnecting two BLSRs on a single ONS 15327 node. When interconnecting one BLSR or using Path Protection, 1:1, or 1:0 protection the low memory alarm will not be seen. To clear a low memory alarm perform an XTC side switch.
Note To be compatible with TL1 and DNS, all nodes must have valid names. Node names should contain alphanumeric characters or hyphens, but no special characters or spaces.
Resolved Caveats for Release 7.2
The following items are resolved in Release 7.2.
There are no resolved items for Release 7.2.
New Features and Functionality
This section highlights new features and functionality for Release 7.2. For detailed documentation of each of these features, consult the user documentation.
New Software Features
Network Circuit Automatic Routing Overridable NE Default
The Network Circuit Automatic Routing Overridable NE default makes it possible to set by default whether or not a user creating circuits can change (override) the automatic circuit routing setting (also provisionable as a default).
The new NE default supporting this feature is:
This default works in combination with the existing circuit routing default:
The overridable option enables network administrators to manage how circuits are created on a network-wide basis. For example, if the Automatic Circuit Routing default is set to FALSE (the check box is unchecked by default), then setting the Network Circuit Automatic Routing Overridable default to FALSE ensures that manual circuit routing is enforced for all users creating circuits (the default is not overridable by the user). When the Network Circuit Automatic Routing Overridable default is set to TRUE (the factory configured setting) users can click in the Automatic Routing check box to change the automatic routing setting if they wish.
When the Route Automatically check box is not selectable during circuit creation, the following automatic routing sub-options will also be unavailable:
•Using Required Nodes/Spans
•Review Route Before Creation
Like the Automatic Circuit Routing default, the Network Circuit Automatic Routing Overridable default applies to all nodes in the network. The Route Automatically check box is either overridable or not depending on how the default is set for the node you are logged into through CTC. To ensure correct behavior after setting the default, propagate the chosen default setting to all nodes through which users might log into the network to perform provisioning. For more information on NE defaults and their provisioning consult the user documentation.
Related Documentation
Release-Specific Documents
•Release Notes for the Cisco ONS 15327, Release 7.0
•Release Notes for the Cisco ONS 15454 SDH, Release 7.2
•Release Notes for the Cisco ONS 15454, Release 7.2
•Release Notes for the Cisco ONS 15600, Release 7.2
•Release Notes for the Cisco ONS 15310-CL, Release 7.2
•Cisco ONS 15327 Software Upgrade Guide, Release 7.2
Platform-Specific Documents
•Cisco ONS 15327 Procedure Guide
Provides installation, turn up, test, and maintenance procedures
•Cisco ONS 15327 Reference Manual
Provides technical reference information for SONET/SDH cards, nodes, and networks
•Cisco ONS 15327 Troubleshooting Guide
Provides a list of SONET alarms and troubleshooting procedures, general troubleshooting information, and hardware replacement procedures
•Cisco ONS SONET TL1 Command Guide
Provides a comprehensive list of TL1 commands
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Im trying to follow the instructions on the potable welding table found in Welding Projects.
In Step 2, I believe there is a discrepancy in the hole pattern that theyre showing in the diagram, if I drill how they tell me to, theres no way the legs will close together. Also in the photo he left both ends on.
The photo in step 7 shows the same, I dont get it
Now when you look at the photo in Step 7 and Step 10 it appears the holes are offset, that to me is the only way the legs would close up.
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Step 3 one leg is 30 and in Step 4 the other is 30 3/4 , this is telling me that the holes in the 1 1/2 X 3 should have there hole drilled at an offset, 1 on the bottom and 1 on the top not in a straight line. My table legs will be about 36 or so Im a little taller.
Ahhhh The photo in Step 9 shows the holes at an offset. I see said the blind manFab Tech


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If Brian Fleury's collegiate career was as successful as it was at Seneca Valley High School, he probably wouldn't be in the position he is now.
At Seneca Valley, playing for his stepfather, Terry Changuris, Fleury was a stud. He was an All-State and first team All-Met quarterback for the Screaming Eagles who passed for 26 touchdowns, a school-record 2,025 yards and four interceptions during his senior year. Seneca Valley won the 4A state championship that year.
In college, Fleury walked on at the University of Maryland and after a season knowing there wasn't a future there, he transferred to Towson University, where he spent four years on the sidelines.
"If my playing career at Towson had been more of a success, I might have been able to walk away from football," said Fleury, who graduated from Seneca Valley in 1998. "I felt there was more to give back to the sport. Because I didn't have a successful college career, I knew I was done as a player, but I thought this wasn't the way it was supposed to end.
"I couldn't just stop."
So he went into the family business. During his career as a coach, Fleury has had stops at Maryland, Sacred Heart University and Towson before his current new beginning with the Buffalo Bills as a defensive quality control coach.
Fleury spent his formative years around football and Changuris.
Changuris held coaches' meetings at his house and Fleury soaked it all in. And it was more than plays. He saw the raw hours coaches put in, how they handle personnel decisions and the ways coaches interacted with each other. He was with Changuris during trips for scouting or to coaching clinics. He was around football all the time.
He started high school at Frederick High School. But while watching a Seneca Valley game against Gaithersburg during his first semester, he made it clear he wanted to switch schools.
"I said to him, 'Don't you wish you could be here?'" Changuris recalled. "He just busted out crying, big crocodile tears. He said he didn't want to be [at Frederick]. He wanted to be here. We withdrew him, sent him to Seneca and around 10th grade he had his eyes set on being a starting quarterback and he wanted to be a football coach. He never said it, but he wanted to be a football coach."
When Fleury took over as the starting quarterback, Changuris said he was more than prepared. Being around all the coaches and his intelligence allowed him to make a seamless transition.
The Screaming Eagles won two county championships with Fleury under center. The tall quarterback thought he could play in college at a Division 1 program. He walked on at Maryland, but his lack of mobility held him back and he made the decision to transfer.
He went to Towson, where he met then-associate head coach Rob Ambrose. Fleury had trouble cracking the lineup and was more of a player-coach.
"At one point, I was in the huddle with the starting quarterback coaching him to play quarterback," Fleury said. "It was a little conflicting."
Fleury finished school in September of 2002 and caught on with Ralph Friedgen at Maryland as a graduate assistant from 2003-2004. In 2005, he was hired as Sacred Heart's secondary coach and was quickly moved to defensive coordinator, working under that title from 2006-2008.
In 2009, he returned to his alma mater with Rob Ambrose, who was hired to rebuild a struggling program and wanted a fellow alumnus to help. Fleury was one of Ambrose's first hires and was in charge of the defensive secondary and special teams.
The first two seasons were tough — the Tigers went 3-19 — but found success in the third year by going 9-3 (7-1 Colonial Athletic Association) and winning the CAA championship for the first time in school history, and a trip to the Football Championship Subdivision tournament, also the school's first.
"He's one of those guys who saw the game with bigger eyes," Ambrose said. "When he was a player and knowing his dad as well as I did, and his dad knowing my dad, I could see the coach in him coming. You try to discourage it — it's not the life for the weak of heart. But all players have it: that virus that never goes away. It takes someone special to use it. He uses it to the Nth degree."
Fleury was planning on a fifth season at Towson just a few weeks ago. On a Wednesday night, he was flying home from an American Football Coaches Association clinic in Nashville. He turned his phone on after the flight and had a voicemail from Jim O'Neil, a former Towson teammate who was recently hired as a linebackers coach by the Bills. O'Neil wanted to recommend Fleury to be a linebackers assistant.
Fleury drove to New Jersey the next day to meet with Bills defensive coordinator Mike Pettine, the New York Jets' defensive coordinator from 2009-12. After the interview, Fleury was offered the job on the spot and he accepted. That Monday he was in Buffalo, evaluating players by reviewing film from the Bills' previous season.
"I'm excited to be here," Fleury said. "The funny thing is, people have been really going out of their way to reach out to me and say all the hard work has paid off. The thing is, the hard work is just starting and I don't think people understand that. They think I won the lottery or something. It's an exciting opportunity, but it's just that: an opportunity.
"I have to work harder than I ever have to prove I belong here. I don't see it as an end. I see it as a beginning more than anything else."


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ETSU set to host Appalachian State in home opener
Monday, August 30, 2010
JOHNSON CITY, Tenn. (August 30, 2010) - After earning its first victory of 2010 against defending Big South champion Coastal Carolina in the Deacon Invitational, ETSU welcomes in Appalachian State to Brooks Gym for the first home match of the season, Tuesday evening at 7 p.m.
The Bucs went 1-2 this past weekend at the season opening Deacon Invitational. They dropped contests against Georgia and Wake Forest before sweeping Coastal Carolina. Senior setter Whitney Cogburn (Kingsport, Tenn.) led the way for the Bucs after dishing out 74 assists to go along with six kills, 12 digs, and five blocks. She was also named to the Deacon Invitational All-Tournament Team.
Kiley Tamblyn (Torrance, Calif.) was impressive in her debut as she led the team with 36 digs on the weekend. Senior Desiree Dyck (Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan) was a force all weekend on the outside as she led the Bucs with 24 kills at a 3.43 kills per set clip. She currently ranks sixth in the A-Sun in kills. Alysa Long (Romulus, Mich.) and McKayla Barber (Columbus, Ind.) were forces at the net after recording ten and nine blocks, respectively. Long and Barber both are currently in the top five in the A-Sun in blocks after the first weekend.
Appalachian State (3-0) enters the midweek contest having swept through the competition at the High Point University Tournament, this past weekend. The Mountaineers swept UNC Wilmington and N.C. A&T before rallying to defeat High Point on the final day. The 3-0 mark is the best start to a season under head coach Matt Ginipro and the best start for ASU since going 3-0 to begin the 2005 campaign.
The Mountaineers are led by Meghann Forshey as she was named tournament MVP at the High Point Tournament. Forshey totaled 29 kills and eight blocks for the three games. Courtney Rhein was also on the all-tournament team after coming away with 63 digs on the weekend.
After the midweek contest, ETSU will travel to Radford, Va. on Sept. 3-4 for the Radford Invitational. ETSU will take on Canisius, Davidson and Norfolk State.
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There are so many variables to becoming a quality quarterback. In the case of second-year Notre Dame quarterback Everett Golson (though Fighting Irish coach Brian Kelly refers to him as a freshman), last week it was learning how to overcome adversity, this week it was attention to proper footwork, and in Saturday's game at Boston College (8 p.m. on ABC)? Maybe it will be precision in the red zone.
"We just have a lot of development to do within the intricacies of the offense," Kelly said. "I don't want get into the specific details. That's what (Everett is) capable of. We want it to be a lot cleaner, a lot more efficient, and there are so many little factors in there. But it's the big picture of what we want. Now we really want to start to refine that. That's the next step for us."
Golson has demonstrated at different times this season, in leading the fourth-ranked Irish to a perfect 9-0 record, that he can run an efficient offense. Against Michigan State, Miami and Oklahoma, he was – at times – breathtaking in his play. In his first season of playing college football, he's completed nearly 57 percent of his passes for 1,372 yards, six touchdowns.
But at other times, he's been so inconsistent that Kelly couldn't take it anymore. Golson has contributed his share of Notre Dame's 15 fumbles and also thrown four interceptions.
"He's a freshman," Kelly said. "I'm reminded of it every single day."
In last week's triple overtime win over Pittsburgh, Golson started the game, and as is the weekly custom, was benched when he played poor. However, unlike earlier games, Kelly went back to Golson later in the game and gave him the opportunity to redeem himself. And he did.
Following the game, Kelly was so impressed with Golson's resolve that he awarded the game ball to him, and then the third-year coach praised his quarterback in the post-game news conference.
"That spurred my comment, his ability to get back up off the bench," Kelly said. "And it never happened before. He hadn't been in that situation where I felt like when I looked at him he was ready to get back in there. He was ready to get back in the game and knew what he needed to do.
So my comments after the game were based upon how he reacted to coming back in the game. Now you've got a little bit of history and said, All right, we got a rough spot here. Let's fight through this. You've done this before. So my comments were based upon that."
Golson not only showed the toughness needed to bounce back, but he also showed the growth in managing the offense that Kelly wanted to see.
"Those are the things that he's been able to learn just in terms of his own management, his housekeeping, if you will, of getting up there, getting the play, communicating it," Kelly explained. "Much more comfortable getting the signaling I think we talked about earlier in the year where we were worried about getting the signals. Now he's a lot more comfortable with the signaling, the communication, and that's really got him to speed up the process."
Kelly said on Thursday that he wasn't entirely pleased with where his offense is in operating in the red zone (46 percent touchdown rate), and that is an area of emphasis for not only Golson, but the entire Notre Dame offense.
"You know, it's harder to stretch vertically, so obviously you have tighter throws; you have to be more accurate; you have to have precision," Kelly said. "It's not a word that's thrown around very easily in our room right now. Precision is not what we have yet. You have to be so precise. I've had quarterbacks that were precise, could read things quickly, and then it was easy down there. It was just, you know, shooting fish in a barrel. We're not there yet.
Getting to that precision in that area is the progress that we have to make."


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Will it ever be "politically" correct to suggest that there may be inate differences between the "hardwiring" of the male and female brain?
We see a profound difference between the level of excellence in chess between men and women. Is this an inate difference or a learned difference? In many Eastern European countries women were strongly encouraged to participate in chess, yet the strongest women were about two tiers below the strongest men. Even today only one woman, Hungarian Judit Polgar, cracked the top 10.
The same can be said about the highest levels of physics and math. If this is simply described as a fact, then the "perpetrator" is apt to be called sexist for stating a simple fact. Women excel in other areas but the question here is it acceptable to talk about inate differences between men and women without rancor? What are the differences? How much is nature and how much is nurture? Or is this just a politically incorrect topic not worthy of discussion?
edward long
Nov 9 2012: "Men and women are different." Is that a politically incorrect or rancorous observation? Not to a reasonable, intelligent person it isn't.
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Let's take another observation: "Men are better chess players and better at math problem solving than women." Uh oh! Now we have a problem. There are several possible explanations for the scarcity of female International Grand Master chess players and Nobel prize winning mathematicians. The least likely explanation for the high ratio of men to women is that men are better than women. More likely there are other factors at play. The second observation is logically fallacious. The first is a proven, necessary fact of nature, to deny it is illogical. If there is an implication of qualitative superiority, i.e. Men are more intelligent than women, that is when the fur flies, and rightly so.
Nov 10 2012: I agree entirely... Where it gets a bit weird in modern society... Is when you say things like "There is a statistically significant difference in the number of men who reach the highest level of chess, than women"... and someone reframes it as "He said men are better at women than chess". I think that might be the unfair attribution of sexism this author refers to.
Nov 10 2012: Women have ovaries and men do not. Men have a "Y" chromosome and women do not. Men are better at sports than women. Which of those three statements is sexist? Is this post asking if people have trouble telling the difference?Nov 12 2012: I should have read the entire article! Even the argument that boys exhibit more "variance" and thus are disproportionately represented at the upper end of math excellence is being questioned. In some countries girls even outscore boys in math! One conclusion this article emphasizes is that the closer we come to gender equality the more the scores of both boys and girls increase. Thus, the primary difference appears to be societal.Nov 12 2012: We cannot overstate the importance of peer pressure, but a basic "factual" concept I thought was cast in stone isn't! Consider this statement from a website called, "Surprise! Gender Equality Makes Everyone Better at Math!
"Over the past generation, standardized tests in the United States have seen that gender gap disappear. First among elementary and middle schoolers, then among high schoolers, and, today, male and female students achieve identical average math scores on SAT's." However, this is an average and doesn't deal with the outliers.
Ken brown
Nov 10 2012: I hope this is not about trying to fix a perceived problem? Which is wholly a male trait, fixing things. Some things don't have a problem therefore they don't need fixing.
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I will say this though but you might not agree with me. Female = Input/Output. Male = Output/Input.
John Smith
Nov 10 2012: "Will it ever be "politically" correct to suggest that there may be inate differences between the "hardwiring" of the male and female brain?"
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That's not even politically incorrect today, what is politically incorrect (and rightly so) is saying that women's brains are so different from men's that they are somehow worse than men at all those jobs that are not "genius physicist" or "SEAL Team Six member" and using that assertion to justify your reluctance to work for a female boss. The truth is that although there are genetic gender differences in the brain the vast majority of occupations do not require people to stretch beyond the limits of their gender, and ultimately that's the only thing that matters.Nov 13 2012: I don't know why.
It is clear we are all identical, even though some of us look different from one another, think differently, perceive things in different ways and like different things.
We vary in size, shape and many other biological features but we are pretty much identical.
Really, it's hard to see where we are not identical, I know, but let's continue to be P.C.'d
P.C. is so refreshing, so freeing, so enlightening. Let's not go for the truth.
Jimmy the Greek was fired for saying on the air that black athletes were bred and because of it have muscles more suited to the kinds of sports in which they excel and dominate. This was 1988.
Dr. Harry Edwards of Berkeley, black, supported that firing. It only took him about 16 years to finally admit that it wasn't a racist statement at all and that is was entirely true, as a result of slave breeding. This was commonly known.
Say it. Whatever you wish to say. At the very least we need to continue to do so in order to maintain the concept of Free Speech, which is being eroded and destroyed and to shake one another up from time to time.
Remember John Rocker? A jerk to be sure, but there were attempts to have him reprogrammed and to have his ability to work and support himself taken away simply because he stated what he saw on the N.Y. subway his first time on it. To some degree, his observations were accurate though they were very insensitive and it appears over time that he may be a racist, but he answered a question honestly.
We need to protect that.Nov 11 2012: The politics will be taken out of the question entirely when we develop the technology to scan the brain in such detail that we can see how it is hard wired.
The differences between the sexes will always be controversial if the answer is sought through behavioral studies.
Gail .
Nov 10 2012: Sure. There are differences in how we think, but you must also include homosexuals who have stronger thinking traits of the opposite sex from them. I think that the studies into homosexual thought patterns and brain use show that this is largely nature and partly nurture.
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I think that I could be an excellent chess player, but I don't want to. Chess is a war game. If it were a peace game, I would have spent more time practicing and studying. But its range of vision and thought is far too limited for my tastes.
As to physics, there are two kinds Classical physics is rather like chess. It really doesn't interest me other than the basics that help me in my day-to-day life. Quantum physics is rather like the peace game. I believe that if the goal were introduced first (conceptually), then more girls would participate because it's so very exciting
In chess, there is a winner. In quantum mechanics, we are all winners. I see that as the inherent difference between the male thought pattern and the female thought pattern in the western world.
But even some of this is indoctrinated into us. I remember a study done on Japanese grade-school kids. They were taught a simple game that was similar to checkers, but pieces could be moved backwards as well. The students were unwilling to win. Whenever they gained an advantage, they retraced their steps to give the "partner" (as opposed to opponent) a chance for a re-do.
We need to learn more about nature v nurture, and it's hard to do that when we cannot see how much of our nurturing is intended to work against a population that is considered inferior.Nov 10 2012: Why do you pinpoint gender differences on superlatives? In statistics the highest peaks and lowest values get usually sorted out to straighten the data-set.
I don't even need the strongest women in chess to checkmate me, and I am talking about chess here.
Many of my female classmates were better in mathematics than I was, yet guess who became the engineer.
On this topic I would say, we have to be scientifically correct first to not to worry about politically correctness secondly.
To me there is no doubt that there are differences, but I know just about a view which have been proven and many which are claimed or generalized. And the last ones are not correct in any case.
Nov 10 2012: Is it politically correct to describe and quantify them?
Nov 10 2012: I do not see any logical reason why it shouldn't be.
Science invented the atomic bomb, the hydrogen bomb, biological and chemical weaponry and just a view questioned its 'correctness'.
On this studies nothing can get hurt but 'gender pride', which isn't good anyway.Nov 10 2012: This is precisely the point. When we use the phrase "Mad genius" how often do we picture a woman and how often a man? Geniuses by definition are the outliers hence any averaging is meaningless. Where is the female Steve Jobs? The female Bill Gates? Is this totally due to societal differences?
One of the best social experiments that could be run is to observe school groups at Howe Caverns. Invariably at the front of the tour in elementary and middle school tours there will be ten-fifteen excited boys fighting to be first in back of me; the girls tend to hang back. In one tour this little girl fought to be first; she'd elbow the boys who tried to get in front of her, but this was extremely rare.
So is it just societal that little boys fight to be first in line, while the girls hang back? I'd love to have a sociologist observe the behavior of little boys and girls taking tours as part of a school group.
Nov 10 2012: And what comes in your mind by the word 'heroine'?
Does this mean that there wasn't enough females who deserved this 'status', so that we keep using it for naming a drug?
Personally I do not like personality cult and I do not consider Steve Jobs nor Bill Gates as suitable role-models for next generations business leader for several reasons. Profit after tax and short lifecycle products is not what I am looking for.
You may heared of the expression 'Behind every great man there's a great woman' and to me, there is much truth in this, even today.
I think if men would give birth to offsprings, including all responsibilities, the given career picture would either be quite different than it appears right now, or even more of western population was on decline than it already is.
Due to the fact, that matriarchal societies did exist, male dominance has no universal necessity.
Christianization had have a devastating effect on woman's social status and still has today. And 2000 years of suppression will not pass without leaving its marks in society, as it forged its influence deep in our moral code.
Cleopatra, Isabella I of Castile, Jeanne d'Arc, Maria I. Tudor of England, Elizabeth I of England, Maria Stuart of Scotland, Catherine the Great of Russia, Viktoria of GB, Ireland and India, Indira Gandhi, Eva Perón, Elisabeth II, Benazir Bhutto, etc. are just a view examples, that some woman did make it against all the odds.
And in science: Hypatia (philosopher, astronomer, mathematician), Marie Curie (chemist, two Nobel Prize), Lise Meitner (physicist and betrayed by male colleagues), Emmy Noether (mathematician), Maria Goeppert-Mayer (physicist, Nobel Prize), Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin (physicist, Nobel Prize), Jane Goodall (primatologist), Elinor Ostrom (economists, Nobel Prize), etc.
Most of these women had to fight for their careers and acceptance and against betrayal by their male colleagues. If this doesn't show the picture, what does?
Nov 10 2012: Heroine is a female star; heroin is the drug. Aside from that your points are well-taken. When I gave a talk at a National Philosophy Alliance Conference, a female physicist present was your eccentric genius type---graduated from MIT at age 18---earned her PhD in physics by 21. She had this little Chihuahua tucked under her jacket who growled at me when I gave my talk!
Yes there are female geniuses in these fields to be sure, but are they the outliers of the outliers i.e. do they represent the potential many women have or are they the exceptions when it comes to excellence?
My mother was one of the first women to attend RPI, a top engineering school and was a metallurgist working for Curtiss Wright in World War II. Then the War ended and she became wife and mother. Had she been born a male (and her dad treated her like one---teaching her self-reliance and to love hunting and fishing including taking her to Canada on fishing expeditions when she was a young girl) she would have been a top-level scientist. I used to have her review all my papers on science before publishing them so I am well aware how societal factors influence excellence in various fields.
The question though, is this: Is it acceptable to describe, quantify and discuss potential differences in gender without being regarded as sexist? Is it sexist to ask, "Do men, in general thrive on competition, while women, in general thrive on cooperation? Are men more competitive than women (in general)?"Nov 10 2012: You didn't mention Rosalind Franklin who provided the key X-ray diffraction data permitting Watson and Crick to get credit for the double helix. Her data was shown to Watson without her knowledge or consent. This is a classic case of betrayal by a colleague.Nov 10 2012: Even though English is not my native language, I always struggle with it and ALL of my female classmates spoke and wrote way better than I could, please allow me to point you to the definition of 'heroine' to the online Oxford Dictionary:
It stems from the same origin as 'hero' and discribes its femal counterpart.
On this you may have given, involuntarily, a good example on how deep we lost the descriptive power of words which once preserved the exclusive appreciation for women.
What stands out in your description of this 'eccentric genius type' woman you met at this conference is, that you also focus on secondary detail in describing her. So what does this growling Chihuahua add of significant value to the facts you mentioned before? Nothing but a side blow on stereotyping, I assume.
I noticed this many times when men talk about their female colleagues or superiors that they tend to go for these sort of 'secondary detail' like 'looks', 'clothing' or 'accessories' more often than they would ever do with a male counterpart. On this I even admit that men usually come in less variety in 'clothing' and 'accessories', but even on 'looks' you get no comment at all.
The conclusion I draw on this is, that this differences in perception is not random and expresses nothing but an unfair way of depreciation and discrimination.
So if you are aware about 'how societal factors influence excellence in various fields' for woman, what are you still missing? In sheer numbers there is no match in between male and famale outliers, this is already obvious. What is not obvious though is, what more explanations to this there can be.
If you 'quantify and discuss' alternative or additional causes, and your methode is unbiased and scientifical, I don't see any justifiable reason why anyone would name you a sexist.
And those who do would probably give you other names as well and for no reason, so don't bother.
Nov 10 2012: For someone who has English for a second language, I never would have known if you hadn't mentioned it!
Interesting about steoreotyping---mea culpa.Nov 10 2012: Stereotyping is often unconscious, I have done it as well and still do it today.
We all are far from perfect, but the good news is, we can work on this. :o)Nov 9 2012: For now,it's simply not possible,since,in almost all the cases,men and women have been raised in differents and often,divergent way . The only way to tell if those differences are inate or learned is to pick up some childrens(plenty of them),after they were born,and apply the same method of raising,for all of them,with NO DIFFERENCE between the method that each child is raised(a.k.a. raise them in a bubble) . But,currently,doing such experiment with humans is impossible,as parents don't trust on someone else to raise their childrens in a equal way with other childrens . The same comparison was made at the past,between excellence of black and white people and such excellence turns out to be more related to the enviroment where the person grows than on its skin colour . The same mistake can't be made again,between sexes .
Nov 10 2012: This experiment has been tried. Lazlo Polgar decided to experiment on his daughters by training them to be genuises in a random topic. His first daughter Zsuzsa showed mild interest in chess so he focussed on that. When his other two daughters were born, they were immersed in chess, too. Judit even defeated a Master blindfolded at age 5!. She has become the highest rated female player ever. Her sister Zsophia had one of the 5 greatest tournament achievements in chess of all time. Zsuzsa became the first female Grandmaster and later became female World Champion, but she barely reached the top 100 players in the world.
Zsophia dropped out of serious competitive chess; Judit became a wife and mother and is still one of the top players in the World, but has never been a serious candidate for World Champion (although she has beaten former World Champions).
I am a member of the Schenectady Chess Club. About 15 men and boys, not a single woman or girl. Go to any chess tournament and you will see ten boys for every girl. For whatever reason far more boys approach competitive chess as a hobby than girls. I can't believe this is just because fathers and mothers encourage their male children to pursue chess but not the girls. There appears to be a very real difference in the desire to pursue and achieve excellence in chess between males and females. As I indicated earlier in Eastern Europe girls have been strongly encouraged to achieve chess excellence and they do---just not at the level of proficiency as their male counterparts.
I suggest this has to do with some aspect of "hardwiring" that can only be remedied (if nurture is the cause), perhaps, when it is just as acceptable to be an obsessive female genius as a male genius.
We know we have female geniuses in other topics. Just look at Emily Dickinson. She was a reclusive genius most likely bipolar, "a plank in reason broke", and you will find no shortage of literary female geniuses.
Nov 16 2012: Well,but the main point here isn't about if there are inate/learned differences between them . The point is to explain which difference between them is inated or learned,and a wider experiment is necessary to find out about it .Nov 9 2012: I think that you can always talk about things for which there is valid scientific evidence and also that comparisons that focus on averages have to be understood as snapshot versions that are not useful for predicting for particular people.
For example, for any aptitude you measure, there is a distribution among men and a distribution among women. The distributions tend to overlap greatly.
As measurements take place once "nurture' has occured, it will be challenging to distinguish what specific aptitudes have a large inate component that can be distinguished from either the "nurture" component or the interaction of the inate and nurture components.
What runs people into trouble is not understanding or expressing well what statements about averages mean and what one cannot sensibly conclude from statements about averages.
Nov 9 2012: Where it is dangerous discussing this topic is that some of the "scientific" evidence can be cooked.
Young males are often "obsessed" with chess (mea culpa!). The question is why? Is obsessive behavior as common to young girls in other areas? What is it about "cold" disciplines like chess, math or physics that tends to bring out obsessive behavior? Is obsession necessary to achieve excellence?
Nov 10 2012: I don't know whether obsession as a personality trait is connected to gender but I will try to find out. Result: a quick check of scholarly work yields an interesting finding from Taiwan. In research comparing genders, males show a significantly higher tendency to be obsessed with symmetry!.
I have two hunches on this matter. One is that young boys tend over a longer period than girls to be inclined to side-by-side play without getting deeply into conversation. Chess is a good activity for that sort of preference. One of my daughters who is extremely disinclined ever to chat was always an excellent chess player.
My second hunch that I think is well supported by research is that boys on average are more drawn to and invested in the exercise of spatial reasoning. Chess would fit into that inclination as well.Nov 10 2012: If you would change 'obsession' to 'focus' it may become understandable why we, men, have more problems with multitasking...
Excellence has also to be shown to become noticed, and in this, men tend to be more 'agressive' than woman are - in general.


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The only thjng he said that was positive was this ," Bess ran a 4.7 in the 40 and in game he has 4.7 speed so u can't have that and expect to score so thrg bring in Marshall who has some speed and he drew a PI call"
The only thjng he said that was positive was this ," Bess ran a 4.7 in the 40 and in game he has 4.7 speed so u can't have that and expect to score so thrg bring in Marshall who has some speed and he drew a PI call"
You're tellling me that ANY QB will have a ****ty day ANY given Sunday? Lies and blasphemy.
Maybe some fans never jumped on the bandwagon, they have been waiting for him to EARN it through quality play. It's amazing how many fans think Tannehill is the answer. Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. But at this point he definitely has not been...6 TD passed, 11 interception, 70.8 QB rating, 0-4 with the game on the line (losing 1 fumble and throwing 3 interceptions). Just maybe the "reasonable" fans are the ones waiting for Tannehill to actually PLAY like a franchise QB before anointing him one.
Why not declare Jonathan Martin our franchise OL, Miller our franchise RB, Oliver our franchise DE, Matthews our franchise WR? Why, because they haven't EARNED it, just like Tannehill hasn't.
What's the difference between NY Jet fans in love with Sanchez and Miami Dolphin fans in love with Tannehill? Absolutely NOTHING...one and the same.
I also love your attempt to hide your bias.. maybe he is a franchise QB but maybe he isnt.... but he isnt because he hasnt proven it in 10 games.
What 0-4 are you talking about?
I get that he should be held responsible for the bills game and Colts game ( he threw for 290 yards, a td, and had a 90 QBR, but be missed a wide open Thomas)
Arizona game- smacked by a freaken free blizer. Of course its his fault.
Jets game- got them in field goal range twice. I believe Armstrong also dropped a pass in his hands that would have gotten them closer.
I count 6 picks that are actually his fault ... Please dont use the word reasonalble to describe yourself... it taints the word.
I would say no, because Luck has shown that he can be clutch and bring his team back. For example, the game against the Packers and the Dolphins. Tannehill does not have a clutch bone in his body. He's had more than a few opportunities to bring his team back and hasn't. Hopefully he will prove me wrong eventually.


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