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corn syrup
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lemon extract
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1 teaspoon
baking soda
1 teaspoon
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1/2 cup
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Great tasting cookie. I used a tsp. of fresh lemon juice, and a tbs. of lemon zest (omitting the lemon extract). Excellent. After trying these, I have also decided to skip the rolling in sugar step, and just dust the cooled cookies with powdered sugar. The powdered sugar will nestle nicely into the surface of this cookie! Even though I made some slight alterations, I give these cookies 5 stars because they are sooo easy to prepare, quick to cook, and are incredibly easy to transport. It's crisp, yet chewy, allowing them to be packaged in any way. Mahalo nui loa!
These were very good but not lemony enough. I used bottled lemon juice instead of extract. I found that the flavor came through nicely, but again, not strong enough. However, the cookies were a tad too butter tasting for me. But it also might have to do with the fact that I didnt refrigerate the dough. My cookies came out fine, nice and crisp.
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Sweet Fancy Moses!!!!!!!!!!! These cookies are one of THE BEST that has ever come out of my oven! I couldn't believe how fast they were mixed up. We rolled these in a mixture of yellow colored sugar and regular granulated-gave them a nice yellow color with a little sparkle-they are really pretty. The taste is incredible-so light and refreshing. You would never guess that there isn't any real lemon in this recipe. The citrus flavor and the chewy texture of this cookie is fabulous-I will make this over and over! Thanks for sharing such a wonderful recipe.
What I love about these cookies is that they not only taste great with a great texture, but they also look perfect. They bake into perfect circles. I made these for a birthday party and rolled them in colored decorator's sugar to match our party colors instead of regular white sugar. If you're pressed for time put the dough in the freezer to chill, only takes about 20 minutes. I'm baffled by other reviewers comments about the cookies spreading too much. My only guess is that their dough wasn't chilled enough or they didn't use real butter. I baked mine about 2 inches apart and had room to spare when they were done.
A few key changes brought these up to five star status! I doubled the lemon extract, added a tsp. of fresh lemon zest, and added several drops of yellow food coloring to the wet ingredients. I also made my own lemon sugar to roll them in, by adding lemon extract and yellow food coloring to the sugar! I only rolled the top of the cookie, as I didn't want them to be overly sweet. I didn't have parchment paper, I used cooking-spray and a light dusting of flour on the sheet, and they didn't stick at all. Also, I only had unsalted butter, so I added 1/4 tsp of salt to the dry ingredients. My dough was easy to handle after 15 minutes in the freezer. This cookie is delicious, and with the changes I added, is a real keeper. Thanks for sharing!
This is the perfect summer cookie, especially here in the Southwest! This cookie is crisp on the edges, soft in the middle, with a very light lemony taste. These began to brown pretty quickly, so I decreased the oven temp a few degrees and baked for 10 minutes. I also made them a little smaller, using rounded teaspoons instead of the larger cookie. They did spread a little, but the tsp size bakes a perfect tea sized cookie. These are great!
These cookies were great! I didn't have any lemon extract, so I used a tablespoon each of lemon zest and fresh lemon juice. Lovely cookies!
These cookies are pretty good, but I like to make them smaller than "walnut size". I used 2 tsp lemon extract, and next time I will add a little more. I suspect that reviewer who complained that these are "too sweet" used the entire 2 cups of sugar in the dough rather than reserving a cup of sugar to roll the dough balls in. This recipe makes very pretty cookies.
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1/4 cup
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1/2 teaspoon
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Well I went ahead and made this according to the author after reading the reviews saying it was to sweet because I tend to like savory things sweetened a little. This was disgustingly sweet to the point of tasting like it was a macaroni dessert. Everything else was ok but the dish was ruined due to the sugar content. I'd start with a few tablespoons maybe up to 1/4 of a cup but the original amount was WAY to much.
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I am rating this recipe 5 stars because the basis for the dressing is SO good!! I did make some changes, but I think it is just a very versatile recipe. I used miracle whip instead of mayo, apple cider vinegar instead of white and half the sugar called for. I used white onion (I didn't have any red ones, although I would have preferred that!!) and some cold left over frozen sweet peas as the ones in the can would be too mushy. I used cucumber, and chopped boiled egg. I made this at the last minute, as we decided to grill burgers on our grill, even though we are thigh deep in snow! Hahah!! It was great even after 45 minutes in the fridge, but it was creamy. We ate leftovers for lunch today and loved it even more! Will definitely make again. I have a family of 5 and by cutting the recipe in half, we didn't have too much leftover!
This is a great recipe. Like others, I added 3 hard-boiled eggs. I cut the sugar back to 1/4 cup and the vinegar by half. I then added 2 and 1/2 tablespoons of sweet pickle relish and 1 teaspoon of garlic powder.
Great macaroni salad and definitely classic picnic food! Everyone has their own take on these types of things and I adjusted this to my own taste preferences as well. I used lite mayo and cut the sugar down to 1/4 cup. I used 2 Tbsp. of mustard, one yellow and one dijon and next time I might cut back on that just a bit. I added 1/2 tsp. of garlic powder and 4 hard boiled eggs. I left out the green pepper and used a bunch of chopped green onions. I did add the carrots and a 5 oz. jar of drained and chopped green olives with pimento peppers. This reminds me a lot of what my Grandma used to make every summer.
Used only ¼ cup of sugar…that was plenty. Also added a decent amount of paprika and garlic powder. Also, I would recommend using the diced pimentos- they really add a lot of flavor and color. Be sure to refrigerate overnight, it is much better the next day.
i think the dressing is fantastic. it's a little sweet, a little zingy from the vinegar, a little mustardy, it all blends well. i truly love it... just not on macaroni. i think the dressing would be a star on potatoes... to make potato salad. also, next time i'll just add a splash of vinegar because it made my dressing runny rather than creamy. --- UPDATE --- i tried the dressing again with potatoes and it was heavenly! all i did was decrease the sugar portion to about half a cup... yum yum. (just a note - after a day, the sweetness cuts down.)
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But here's the question - I will print 99% of my shots at A4 size or below, so is it worth sacrificing the flexibility of the 17-85 for the added optical quality of the 24-70? I will be printing on an Epson R800.
only you can answer this question. you know that the 24-70mm is optically far superior to the 18-85. you know the 18-85mm is far more versatile.
since you're printing at A4 and smaller, it seems a bit odd to me to spend so much money on the 24-70mm (and later the 10-22mm), which costs more than your 20D, let alone more than double the 18-85mm; lacks IS; and doesn't have as much range. and the 18-85mm seems to be quite a nice lens.
have you ever shot with the 24-70mm? it's big. it's heavy. it also is an extremely high quality lens, with the price to go with it. if you were printing larger than A4, you may notice a big difference. so depending on your goals and aspirations for your photography, only you can decide which is the right choice for you.
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Hi, I have the 10d and the 1D mk2. I love the 24-70 on the 1D mark2 but on the 10d i didnt use it as much. Didnt "feel" right or as versatile because of the crop factor, i used the 17-40 a LOT more on the 10d. But optically the 24-70 is better. Not by much but its better (the 17-40 is quite good).
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My requirements for a "walkaround" or main lens unfortunately preclude a number of good lenses.
28-anything simply isn't wide enough for the kind of photos I take, I would be swapping lenses too much.
24-anything is just about acceptable at the wide end, but I would want to match it with the 10-22 for occasional use.
17-35 or 17-40 don't give enough at the telephoto end, I would be swapping lenses too much.
So with the excellent high-ISO performance of the 20D plus the IS, I don't think I'll find the the EF-S 17-85 too slow. Also I find that I have quite a steady hand and can often hand-hold a 50mm lens down to 1/8s without noticable camera shake.
I've read mixed reviews of the lens too, but the ones I respect (like Michael Reichmann) say that it's a very good lens and matches the 20D very well.
Canon themselves in their marketing speak rank the lens as "semi-pro" or enthusiast, above their "consumer" line of lenses, and that seems to match what I have read too and the images I have seen.
Image quality would be below par on a 1D body (obviously it doesn't fit), or with large prints, but with sub A4 prints and a willingness to use Photoshop where necessary I believe it will be a fine choice.
As a matter of interest, I will be matching it with the EF 70-300 DO IS lens, also rated as "almost" L quality, but small and light.
The two lenses will give an effective coverage of 17-300mm (x1.6 = 27-480mm!)
I'll shoot on those two for a few months and see whether I really want the 10-22mm. The advantage of getting it, apart from the extra ultra-wide focal length is that the 17-85mm is generally criticised at the 17-24mm range, which is where the 10-22 is strongest. So I will start with the 2 lenses, but might supplement it with a third lens in due course.
Perhaps my next camera will be a 1D MkIII or MkIV and I'll get the 24-70L to go with it. But that's a few years in the distance.
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I did in fact go for the 17-85 & 70-300 DO.
Very happy with them both so far. Actually I'm glad I got the extra width at the wide end, the 24-70 wouldn't have been enough I would have needed the 10-22 for sure. I still may get it of course, but I can wait for the bank balance to recover a bit first.
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I tested a 16-35 vs the 17-40 and the 16-35 went back, it was softer than the 17-40, especially at the edges at all but f/4, where it had a slight advantage over the 17.This was on a 1.6 crop body, I imagine the edge softness would be far worse on a full frame body. But for the money i returned it and bought 3 other lenses in its place, the 10-22, 85 1.8, 50 1.4. The 16-35 is way overpriced in my view vs the quality.
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March 17, 2005, 02:37:26 PM »
I tend to agree with most of what you say in light of that everyone has their creative needs and budgets constraints, relative to performance compromises they're willing accept. The main weighted issue with this individual, and Stef T, is their looking for only one lens to start with. Before recommending a one "do it all" lens that will cover the widest use spectrum, one has to decide how soon will they purchase their second lens, what it might be and budget allocation. If it's 6 months to a year before they purchase the second lens, then a wider range, like the 17-85 might serve them better. But if it's within 6 months, personally, I'd bite the bullet and go for the 16-35. I find it a great walkaround lens on a 1.6x sensor also... even if I had a 24-70 I think the 16-35 would be mounted 70 percent of the time... I like it that much.
I initially wanted 3 lenses; the 10-22, 24-70L2.8 and the 70-200L 2.8 IS, but it went a bit beyond my budget as I wanted the IS on the 70-200. After a while I also realized that from a practical stand point (for me) 70 on the 24-70 is somewhat an overlap at 70 on the 70-200. Sure, it's nice to have, but considering budget constraints it's a luxury that considering my creative needs and applications isn't one that yields much practicality relative to where I alocate my dollars.
On the wide end, the 10-22 is a pretty cool and creative lens but from the samples I've seen tends to (as most extreme WAs) distort and soft on the wide side, and not enough tele at 22. Additionally, it won't support the D1 series when I upgrade and keep my 20D as a backup.
As for the 16-35 being soft comparing to the 17-40, I don't know, I've read mixed reviews cmparing these 2 lenses, including on this site. On the wide side the 17-40 was consistently softer in all the reviews I've read. I also prefer the 2.8 as I prefer to shoot with available light.
Regarding L and non-L quality issues, I've read tons of reviews on this site and others and understand that in many cases cost does not always constitute quality results within any one given set of, or individual, parameters or values. But if you read between the lines, in most reviews, the overall evaluation of a piece of glass does tend to conincide (most of the time) with it's cost. Doesn't mean twice the cost equals twice the performance, but my findings are that in overall performance there seems to be at least a slight edge to more expensive glass. The other factor not typically addressed in glass evalutations is; how does a middle grade line of lens' performance hold up 3 or 6 years down the road, relative to an L series? I shoot outdoors often (sometimes on boats) so the durability and environmental casing of a lens is part of my equation. But there are internal optical differences also.
I guess what I'm saying is that I'd rather start off with 2 (or even one) quality lenses (weighted on overall performance) as opposed to 3 or 4 of a mediocre or middle of the line. If I'm to chimp out on equipment, I'd spend less on the sensor (cam), as digicams are, to some degree, a throw-away item...we'll be upgrading that part of our equipment every few years. I consider the glass to be the long term investment and therefore would toss most of my bucks in that bucket. I've even considered Sigma and other 3rd party MFRs, some seem to perform very well in one specific area but fall far short in most others...I don't see that as money well spent at any cost, not to mention the durability and long term performance aspects.
Taking a step forward at 35 may not be adequate all the time, but I find that at 35 it seems to fill the majority of my needs. I was actually quite surprised how well it does fill the frame at 35. Of course, partially due to the 1.6x factor.
Obviously, that's just my opinion for my needs and objectives. Eventually, I'll probably fill the gap between the 35 and 70 with a prime which I think will compliment my needs and applications well.
Consequently, I'm very happy with the 16-35/2.8L and the 70-200/2.8L IS... they both perfomr flawlessy on the 20D with great results, and at this point I don't miss the 35 to 70 gap, as I thought I would.
One other issue, or preference, that I tend to disagree with most, is the complaint of big and heavy glass. My preference is for more mass or weight. Sound strange? Maybe, but consider this. I've spent most of my career as a video pro and in broadcast level production a light unit is undesireable (in certain instances we actually placed small sandbags on the cams, even when shoulder mounted) The obvious reason is stability and dampening of nay hand or body tremors. The more mass the more steady your shot will be. A larger lens will also have more contact with your hand to steady it. Maybe I'm the odball, but I find large, heavy lenses to be an asset, and a welcome characteristic as my hands are a bit larger that most.
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March 17, 2005, 03:44:47 PM »
It sounds like you made the right decision for you, and how could anyone say that buying the 16-35 was a bad choice.
These choices are not just predicated on image quality because build quality, full v reduced frame, etc are all valid and sensible considerations - but clearly peoples' requirements differ. Frankly if you gave me a 16-35 L for free it would never see any use because I prefer the convenience of the extra zoom range of the 17-85, and the quality difference is negligible for most purposes on the 20D.
There is a perception amongst some people, that if it's not L then it's not going to be sharp and the image quality will be substandard compared to ANY L: and that view is just plain flatout wrong as the MTF comparison shows.
The engineers gain a great deal from only having to cover the smaller area. This is very clear if you look at the MTF charts for the 17-85 and the new EF-S 60mm Macro. If you think I'm nuts for saying this then consider Mike Johnston's recent article.
Canon are covering their bases with 3 different sensor sizes at the moment, but I expect that to reduce to 2 fairly soon - simple economics. The 1.3 crop sensor is going to go, and either they will put an APS-C sensor in a 1D body or they'll make the full-frame electronics fast enough to capture 8fps. My guess is the former.
Anyone care to put their house on being able to tell the difference in image quality between a shot from the 1D v the 20D with a lens of comparable quality covering the same field of view?
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Reply #7 on:
March 19, 2005, 08:03:39 PM »
Well, as I said before, the 17-85 might be an excellent choice if that will be your only glass for 6 months or more. And if 2 or more lenses gave me much anxiety over missing a shot while changing lenses, and discomfort of toting 2 or more lenses, then quite frankly I would also pack a high end point-and-shoot...as is what I have in my back pack as a backup back-up also (Nikon 5700/35-280)... which incidently produces some excellent results considering what it is... and it's $700, the price of an average decent lens. The other option is purchasing a back-up DSLR like the new 350 or Rebel and have both lenses mounted, but then again, we have the budget factor. When my budget allows, the 20D will be my back-up and a D1-whatever at the time, will be my main, and consequently will have 2 lenses mounted, and ready to go, concurrently.
The nature of the beast (SLRs) is that lenses, especially primes, inherently have the inconvenience factor and reality that, to varying degrees, will require swapping lenses as subject matter coupled with creativity dictate. Maybe in the future we'll have a DSLR with one fixed, wide range focal length quality zoom lens, so we'll have all our basis covered without the convenience of toting multiple lenses or having to dismount and mount as the urgent subject matter calls for. But that's not the case at the moment.
As you know, there is no one ideal choice of glass with SLRs as current technology doesn't afford us that, at the moment. In light of that, I find that most people purchasing their first SLR suffer from much anxiety (as I did) with regard to covering all the possible types of subjects and applications one might encounter (and that's not taking into account the varying performance qualities and MFRs)
And, again, for my personal needs, and current budget, I chose the 16-35 and 70-200. I felt this choice gave me a greater variety, or spectrum, of creativity. If I had chosen the 24-70 I would have lost some at the wide end, but also feel the tele end of this lens was to close (in my opinion somewhat overlapping) to the 70-200. And, I was absolutely sure I wanted the 70-200/f2.8L IS as all the reviews I've read on it were excellent... not to mention it's an ideal focal range for my applications. The 17-85 (and the 17-40), based on review I've read, did not perform as well as the 16-35, in real-world application, on the wide end, and overall as well as the 24-70... not to mention their not 2.8 and the EF-S doesn't support the pro line D's. Cumilatively, that's too many negative aspects for me.
So, I'm being somewhat redundant here, but do feel that when financially restricted to one lens, the main question and deciding factor for me would be "how long of a time period will it be my only lens?"
As for the sharpness (or softness) with the 16-35... I don't know, mine seems very sharp... maybe I got a good one?
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April 12, 2005, 09:39:13 AM »
I have one qustion that I've been wondering about for some time.
Is the EF-S 17-85 mm IS USM also conidered in the 1.6 crop factor? If it is it would have just the same range as a 28-135 mm IS USM on a full-frame camera, right? I'm also buying a new lens for the camera, and consider one of them, they fit my range very good. Thanks for the tips previously in the thread, it helped alot.
Hope you can help me choosing between EF-S 17-85 mm IS USM and the 28-135 mm IS USM.
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Reply #9 on:
April 19, 2005, 09:03:55 AM »
I have one qustion that I've been wondering about for some time.
Is the EF-S 17-85 mm IS USM also conidered in the 1.6 crop factor? If it is it would have just the same range as a 28-135 mm IS USM on a full-frame camera, right? I'm also buying a new lens for the camera, and consider one of them, they fit my range very good. Thanks for the tips previously in the thread, it helped alot.
Hope you can help me choosing between EF-S 17-85 mm IS USM and the 28-135 mm IS USM.
Yes, you need to mulitply both focal lengths by 1.6.
The 17-85 is precisely designed to cover the same useful angle-of-view as the 28-135 on a full-frame 35mm camera.
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June 06, 2005, 05:13:16 PM »
Hi, Why not get the new Tamron 17-35 Di, as reviewed on this site, just do a search for "killer lens"..(Mike Johnson).... I did and its superb!!! and its an absolute steal1
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Reply #11 on:
January 18, 2005, 03:53:01 PM »
Upgrading my EF-S 18-55mm kit lens for my 20D - but to what?
I have determined that I can get away with 24-70mm as the essential focal length. Though if I buy the 24-70 I will probably get the 10-22 sooner rather than later, and if I get the 17-85 I may decide to live without the 10-22.
But here's the question - I will print 99% of my shots at A4 size or below, so is it worth sacrificing the flexibility of the 17-85 for the added optical quality of the 24-70? I will be printing on an Epson R800.
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Reply #12 on:
January 18, 2005, 04:40:19 PM »
I was also quite concerned about all the reports of quality issues with the EF-S 17-85 lens. I mostly considered the EF 17-40 F4 L as an alternative. In the end, I chose to get the EF-S 17-85mm IS USM lens because it is so versatile, and cheaper than most of the L series lenses people recommend as alternates.
I will admit firstly that this lens is by no means perfect, it shows some noticeable vignetting at 17mm, even with no UV filter or anything else attached. It has significant barrel distortion at 17mm as well. Also, I have seen test shots showing some chromatic abberation, although I have not gone specifically looking for that on mine yet.
Hovewer, I love the lens anyway. It is very convenient, and considering the low noise of th 20D, and the IS features, I have shot hand held, by fire-light only and been very happy with the outcome. For me the deciding factor is that I can fix most of the worst issues with a bit of time in Photoshop. I don't print very many of my photos, and I can afford to put in the effort to fix them in Photoshop before I try to print anything bigger than 8x10. Keep in mind that with Adobe photoraw processor you can significantly reduce the chromatic abberation, and eliminate the vignetting. And with the PT Lens plugin I can remove the barrel distortion.
I would recommend the 17-85 if you are willing to live with editing images before you try to print in very large formats. The $500 extra to get it in a kit is a good price, the performance is better than I expected, at least reading some of the more negative comments, and you can fix any serious issues in Photoshop, if you are patient.
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Reply #13 on:
January 20, 2005, 08:15:19 AM »
The Tamron 28-75/2.8 XrDi!
Reasons Pro:
- zoom for flexibility
- fast for low light situations and better focussing
- Affordable
- Excellent reputation, apart from the build quality -which is good enough for me- reported consistently to be on par with the 3,5 times as expensive 24-70/2.8
I am very happy with this choice!
I would basically love something a bit wider, but then again I feel that my best images have been made with the longer lengths, although I quite often use(d) a 20-35 mm on full frame film as only lens when hiking.
Alternatives considered:
Canon 17-85 IS "kit plus": reduced frame only (I am still not happy with this idea, would like the 10-22 though...) and a VERY mixed reputation, slow and expensive. IS would be nice though...
Canon 17-40: I already have the 20-35/3.5-4.5 and I feel I would gain too little.
Tamron 17-35/2.8-4: Same idea as Canon 17-40.
Sigma 18-50/2.8 EX: at "my time of decision" too new - too few reports (but all good!) and reduced frame.
(Canon 24-70/2.8 and 16-35/2.8: price, weight and size are VERY prohibitive...)
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Reply #14 on:
February 27, 2005, 02:24:00 PM »
At the risk of sounding totally outlandish - you could buy the 17-85 IS AND a Tokina 28-80 ATX Pro for a bit less than the Canon 24-70. The 17-85 would give you a nice, light "walkabout" lens, and the ATX Pro, I would suspect, would give you nice enough results to print to at least Super B. My 28-70 ATX Pro allows for nice Super B prints when I shoot with my film system anyway.
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Reply #15 on:
March 16, 2005, 07:34:14 PM »
Here's my response to Stef T, who has similar anxieties:
As you, I angquished over which first lens(es) to purchase initially with my recently acquired 20D system and came to the following, and happy, conclusion. While I purchased 2 lenses, if I had to pick one to start with, it would be the 16-35F2.8L (my other initial lens is the 70-200F2.8L IS) Here's why I think the 16-35 is your best bet as a single starter. First, it will cover your wide angle needs at 16 and perform as a good standard at 35... I find it's range frames quite well (consider the 1.6x factor). It's a bit on the pricy side but it's a quality lens that will out-live your 20D and compliment the 1Ds series when you upgrade. My experience is that it performs superbly with the 20D. I initially thought about the 24-70L to meet up with the 70-200L, but then realized I'd miss the wide angle, not too mention I wouldn't have a wider diversity on the 70 end with my 70-200L. I've also found that I really don't miss (considering my budget at this time) the 35 to 70 range... if I find the 35 doesn't frame tight enough, in most cases taking a few steps forward does the trick.
The 17-85 most are recommending I feel is a bad option for several reasons: 1. it's not the last or only lens you will purchase, yet the scope of the 17-85 will most likely overlap other lenses you will purchase in the future. 2. it's a slow lens, this may not seem to be an issue prior to your purchase but it will be something you regret if you like capturing subjects in low ambient light. 3. If your second lens is an L, you'll find yourself reluctant to mount the 17-85 due to inherent quality issues. 4. With the 17-85 you're over-compensating for having one lens initially...trying to have an all in one lens that performs average at all ranges but not great at any specific one. This will make your investment in the 17-85 obselete as you acquire other quality (L?) glass.
I did quite a bit of research and analysis, and even after feeling 90% confident of the choice of glass when I ordered, I still felt a bit of anxiety (as I didn' thave the opportunity to test the lenses at a dealer prior to purchasing) Now that I've received my 16-35F2.8 L and the 70-200F2.8L IS, and have used them on my 20D, I'm 100% pleased with my choice, both in the quality and the range of the lenses.
Hope this helps!
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Reply #16 on:
March 17, 2005, 04:11:20 AM »
I would hope the 16-35 is a little better optically than the 17-85, after all it's more than twice the price.
When I upgrade the 20D it will almost certainly be to the 20D replacement, I have no problems with spending money on the EF-S format. Look at where Nikon have gone with the APS-C sized sensor, I see a long future ahead for it. I personally wouldn't be surprised to a 1-series body on the reduced sensor size at some point in the not-too-distant future. 1D MkIII anyone? And if we do then my prediction is that they'll put the 17-85 optics in an upgraded casing and slap an L on it.
Reluctant to mount the 17-85 because of quality?
If you say so but have you used the 17-85? Have you seen some of Michael's photos with it?
Certainly the range of the 17-85 means there are some compromises in quality, however have a look at the MTF test chart below - which is the L lens - A or B?
A is the 17-85 and B is the 17-40L, at the wide end both are f4 and 17mm. Obviously the comparison is less useful at the tele end. Please not I'm not claiming that the 17-85 is a better lens than the 17-40. Rather I am simply making the point that if a lens doesn't have an L designation it does not mean that it's not of good optical quality.
It would be nice if it were a couple of stops faster, but the IS really does work as advertised. Useless for moving subjects of course, but for static subjects it's great.
I expect that I'll mostly be adding primes to my collection now; the 17-85 is good enough on the 20D for a walkaround lens, and it's convenient and light.
As for the argument that you can just step forward a couple of paces to turn 35mm into 85mm, well that's true, but you can't always do that, and it's a far better argument for going primes all the way in my book.
And that's what I'll be doing: the 17-85 + 70-300 DO is a great zoom combo. I will probably be adding the 10-22 in due course.
For situations where those are not up to the job I'll be switching to primes.
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Reply #17 on:
March 17, 2005, 12:37:57 PM »
where did that MTF curve come from, if I may ask?
BTW: Comparing the 16-35/2.8 to the 17-85/EF-S is really not fair.
The 16-35/2.8L does not cost twice as much because it is a "L", it costs twice as much because of the F2.8 aperature.
Comparing the 17-85/EF-S to the comparable priced 17-40/4L is much more interesting.
Of course. . . for an IS lens. . I would go with the 28-135/IS. . . but my tastes are different than yours.
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Reply #18 on:
March 17, 2005, 03:10:21 PM »
where did that MTF curve come from, if I may ask?
BTW: Comparing the 16-35/2.8 to the 17-85/EF-S is really not fair.
The 16-35/2.8L does not cost twice as much because it is a "L", it costs twice as much because of the F2.8 aperature.
Comparing the 17-85/EF-S to the comparable priced 17-40/4L is much more interesting.
Of course. . . for an IS lens. . I would go with the 28-135/IS. . . but my tastes are different than yours.
That comparison WAS the 17-85 v 17-40.
Naturally the 16-35 @ f2.8 would have a harder time.
I cropped the 17-40 to only include the first 15mm from centre because wider than that is not relevant for the 20D.
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Reply #19 on:
March 19, 2005, 09:09:12 AM »
The "bottom line" is that to get anything close to "Wide Angle", you need at least a "17", and the next question is do you want wide to medium tele in one lens, or a combo of two.
With the two lens route there's lots of excellent choices such as the 17-40L or Tamron 17-35 2.8 DI with a 24-70 L, etc. With a single lens solution there's basically about two choices--- The Canon 17-85 S IS, or Sigma 18-125.
Rather than toting "extra" lenses, constant lens changing / dust problems, and possible missed shots ( You're taking a wide-angle shot, and suddenly something "pops" into view that requires a bit more reach----and by the time you fumble about with a lens change---it's gone), I chose the 17-85 S.
Perhaps I got a "good" one--- I don't have any notable vignetting even with a "standard" Skylight filter attached. I tested the lens extensively comparing it to my 28-135 IS (which I happen to have a "good" copy); other than some CA (easily removed with a Raw Converter), it stands-up quite well, and is reasonably sharp even with Parameter 2 Raw shots. If you can spare the time, I'd give this lens a try--- I got mine from Amazon, which allows a 30 day return policy, and free return shipping if your not satisfied.
As a foot-note, I tried two 70-300 DO's---- The first was dreadful--not soft, but downright blurry; The second was merely soft ( my 17-85 performed better at the long end than the 70-300 DO did at it's short end----- Needless to say, they both went back to B&H, and I've given up on that lens---at least for now!
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Colton O'Day, UE basketball manager, describes the play-by-play action taking place on the court to Bryce Weiler as they sit on the UE bench during the UE vs. Missouri State Game on Saturday, February 25. At the beginning of the season O';Day was assigned to sit on the bench with Weiler, who O';Day considers to be UE basketball's No. 1 fan, and commentate the game to him. Over the last several month the two have become good friends with O'Day being Weiler';s eyes. "At the beginning of the season, I would have to ask Colton to describe plays better so I knew what was going on" Weiler said,"but he quickly caught on to what I needed and wanted to know. Now Colton describes what the play was, what happened and what maybe should have happened so I understand what is going on in the game.";
University of Evansville Professor, Paul Jensen, squares Bryce Weiler up to the basket before he begins shooting free throws before the University of Evansville men's basketball game against Bradley University on Saturday, February 18. Weiler a sports management major loves college basketball and hopes to get a job at a University working in the athletic department or for a coach.
Laura Rust gives Bryce Weiler a hug after he shot some free throws before the game against Bradley University on Saturday, February 18, 2012. The Rusts got to know Weiler through their daughter Abbie who was one of Weiler's councilors when he attended the Evansville Blind Association Summer College program his junior and senior year of high school. The Rusts have become Weiler's adopted family in Evansville, often having him over for dinner and taking him to Reitz games with them. Weiler checks in with Laura at least once a week and she said her family has enjoyed getting to know Weiler.
Bryce Weiler carries a piece of the net from last year';s NCAA tournament in his wallet given to him by his friend, Butler University head coach Brad Stevens. Weiler became good friends with Stevens when he was in high school at the Indiana School for Blind. Stevens later introduced him to Louisville Coach Rick Pitino. Weiler and Pitino talk on a weekly basis, ";If I don';t call him one week he gives me a ring, because he worries about me,"; Weiler says about Pitino. Weiler is often invited to many U of L basketball games but only attends games that don't conflict with UE games.
Bryce Weiler holds a basketball as he sits on the University of Evansville basketball bench before the game against Bradley University on Saturday, February 18, 2012. Weiler said his love for basketball started around age 11 when his uncle, Steve Weiler, took him to his first University of Illinois basketball game. Weiler began to listen to certain commentators on the radio broadcast the Illinois games and Indiana University games, by listening to the games he memorized the rules for basketball.
Bryce Weiler shoots free throws before the University of Evansville men's basketball game against Bradley University on Saturday, February 18, 2012. Weiler sunk three free throws in a row before the Bradley game. Weiler learned to shoot free throws when he was a freshman last year when several of the coaches including Head coach Marty Simmons, assistant coach Chris Hollander, women's assistant coach Matt Ruffling took a liking to Weiler. Weiler relies on sound to shoot his free throws, someone stands under the basket and claps their hands, based on the sound Weiler knows where to shoot. If he misses he relies on the sound of the basket hitting the rim to tell him whether his shot was too low, or too much to the right or left.
Bryce Weiler eats lunch with his friends from left, Dillon Powers, Kristin Pins and Nick Cress at the Ridgway University Center on Wednesday. Weiler met Powers and Cress his freshman year and they have become part of his daily lunch routine. The group of friends hang out together outside of class and include Weiler in pick up games of soccer and floor hockey.
Lauren Tiernan, a sophomore, tries to see what Bryce Weiler's workload is like by using his cane and closing her eyes to walk the hallway of Graves Hall at the University of Evansville before their exercise and sports science class on Friday, February 24, 2012. "It';s really hard Bryce, I don't know how you do this,"; Tiernan said to Weiler. Tiernan described her blind walk as if she was playing a game of bumper cars."; I was not aware of anything around me, I felt lost, but being by the wall helped a little,"; she said. Tiernan and met their freshman year, she is a member of the soccer team and Weiler has come to many of her games.
University of Evansville Professor, Paul Jensen, talks with his hands while Bryce Weiler listens to him talk about deviance in sports during an exercise and sports science class on Friday, February 24. Weiler, who suffers from retinopathy of prematurity, use a computer program that speaks written text to him, which is how he reads textbooks and emails. Weiler learned to read Braille while growing up but textbooks translated in Braille are expensive. Other than the audio program Weiler's computer has not been modified, he relies on the dot on the "f" and "j" keys on the keyboard and has memorized where the other keys are in relationship to these letters.
Bryce Weiler and his friend Nick Cress run up the stairs to the second floor of the Ridgway University Center after eating lunch on Wednesday, February 22, 2012. Cress and Weiler became friends when they met in the dorms freshman year, Cress eats lunch with Weiler everyday and helps him in the cafeteria and navigate open parts of the building that are hard for Weiler to know where he is. Weiler, who attend the Indian School for the Blind in high school, was familiar with UE because he attended the Evansville Blind Association Summer College program his junior and senior year of High School. ";I chose UE because it was small and I knew I could memorize campus and be able to navigate most places on my own,"; Weiler said. Many of the faculty describe Weiler as being a very independent person who knows his limitations and asks for help only when he needs it.
Clay Slaughters congratulates Bryce Weiler on making three free throws in a row before the University of Evansville and Bradley University on Saturday, February 18, 2012. Slaughters and Weiler have gotten to know each other from working in UE';s Athletic Department.
Being Bryce Weiler';s eyes for the season, Colton O';Day, has come to know, respect and love his pal Weiler whom he commentates play-by-play action to during all UE's men's home games. "It's an honor to be able to sit with him and tell him what is going on, Bryce knows so much about basketball and truly loves the sport despite not being able to see it being played,"; O'Day said. But O';Day understands his role in making sure Weiler can ";see"; what is happening on the court. "Bryce is truly passionate about the game, about the school (UE) and about all the players, and knows everyone's abilities and roles on the team, and he is certainly one of their biggest cheerleaders. ";
Bryce Weiler reaches over to hug his friend, basketball manager Colton O';Day, and Abbie Rust celebrates Denver Holmes sinking a 3-pointer which tied the score sending The University of Evansville and Missouri State University into overtime play on Saturday, February 25, 2010. O'Day cautionary optimistic reminds, Weiler that the game isn't over yet, with five more minutes in overtime to be played. ";What I love about Colton describing the games to me is that he is so calm about it, he never really gets overly emotional, even though there are times I can tell he is a little stressed about what is happening on the court,"; Weiler said.


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No question, he's legit.
I have been in the welding industry for forty years and I have been loosely associated with Ed for almost 20. I think you may be taking things a little too personally when you say that, "he paints all of us weld guys as fools."
Twenty years ago I was looking for an answer to the question, "Why do so many of the weld techs I meet know nothing about welding?" Ed's book explained things very clearly and it made sense. No management team wants to hire an "all talk...no arc, self proclaimed weld master"(and there is more of them out there than should be.) But corporate management are in a catch 22 situation. They need the welding process expertise but they know nothing about it. They put their trust and faith in someone who looks the part and sounds like they know what they are talking about. All too late they realize that the welding problems are increasing, not decreasing, because their "weld guy" learnt everything he knows from a high school and the back of a lincoln electric "How to weld Guide."
I am reasonably soft spoken, weld technologist with three post graduate degrees. If I had a dollar for everytime I listened to some brainless weld tech spout off about a process he knows nothing about, I could retire tomorrow. There are a number of excellent, really dedicated, knowledgeable welding professionals in this industry. You just have to wade through the throngs of guys that learnt everything they have from their weld supply salesman.
Ed is a little dated, a little repetitive, but the core of what he has to say is as true today as it was twenty years ago. As long as you are selective and temper his theories with what you know and trust, he is at the very least worth the read.
Thanks man......we've all been dumbfounded for over six years waiting for this issue to be cleared up!!
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Well with all of your ed craig like greatness you've just described, and your 3 post graduate degrees, the best you can do is to dredge up and reply to a 7 year old thread on a Miller hobby type welding forum???
Spectacular, simply spectacular.
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As you see, Rockwell, this forum, like many a long-established forum on any topic, has its self-appointed-resident-experts/arguement-leaders/opinion-arbiters/arrogant blowhards, and they don't like it when a newbie comes in threatening to steal their thunder with what others might regard as an opinion worth hearing. You might even think that when someone like you posts to an old thread in which they, the big boys on the thread, have lost interest, they could just move along to something that does interest them. But no, evidently they feel compelled to read everything and to sneer at whatever meets their holy disapproval . . . .
Sense of Humor..???
the only one on the attack here is you....
In all the years that I have seen FUSIONKING post here.... I can not recall any mean spirited posts...
Humorous??.. yes.. plenty of them....
Helpful??... yes many of those too
Mean??... Cannot recall a one
it was all good natured... why get your blood pressure up over NOTHING..??
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My now deceased friend was six years old when they figured out he was totally deaf and nearly blind. Medical experts were able to get him enough vision to drive, and hearing to, with effort, carry on a conversation. Still he "marched to the beat of a different drummer."
My most used Phil quote is "What that mean?"
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After three straight Rose Bowl bids from 2010-2012, the Wisconsin Badgers failed to win the Big Ten's Leaders Division title last season, and thus failed to end their year in Pasadena at the "Grandaddy" of all college bowls. But hope springs eternal in Madison--and thankfully the Big Ten thought well enough to lose the Leaders…Read more


text: Employment Current Openings from the Office of Career Services are listed below Posted: 2/21/2012YNN/ Operations Superivosr/ Buffalo, NYJOB TITLE: Operations Supervisor COMPANY: YNN Buffalo LOCATION: Buffalo, NY TO APPLY: www.timewarnercable.com/careers, Requisition # 133688BR SUMMARY: To supervise the technical operations of the Chicago Street news room facility and also supervise the production infrastructure which includes self contained camera system, anchor desk, field operations equipment, SNG truck, Apple Final Cut Pro Editors, and Dalet News room system. DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES: · Oversee the operations and maintenance of a 24 hour newsroom including: Dalet newsroom system, Panasonic P2 field gear and satellite truck. · Supervise operations and field staff through daily duties. · Provide on-site support for statewide computer network, including HP work stations, Cisco network switch and other various IT based equipment. · Communicate with senior editorial management, assignment desk and operations staff to insure all production needs are met. · Be proficient with Panasonic P2 workflow, FCP editing and all ENG operations. · Track and assign field gear and vehicles. · Ability to be on call 24/7. · Performs other duties as assigned. EDUCATION AND/OR EXPERIENCE: • College degree in Communications, MCSE and or CCNA certification preferable. • Minimum 5 year related experience. SKILLS, KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITIES: · Attention to detail · Ability to work under pressure · Camera operation · Communication/Interpersonal skills · Creative thinking skills · Current news events · Driving (NYC Drivers license or Tri-state drivers license) · Electronic newsroom system · Internet Knowledge · Lifting heavy weights · Lighting · Organization skills · PC knowledge (MS Office) · Presentation skills · Problem Solving/Decision making · Time management skills · TV production knowledge · Video & audio equipment knowledge · Video editing MENTAL/PHYSICAL DEMANDS: • Must be able to function under considerable levels of stress and be able to manage multiple tasks. • Must be able to maintain amicable working relationships with co-workers, management and the public. • Regularly required to stand; walk; stoop, bend, kneel, crouch, or crawl. • Must be able to hear and speak. • Must frequently lift and/or move up to 70 pounds. • Specific vision abilities required by this job include close vision, distance vision, color vision, peripheral vision, depth perception and ability to adjust focus. • Must meet manufacturer's weight requirements for all equipment used. • Required to sit at times; use hands to finger, handle, or feel, video editing will be done as assigned; reach with hands and arms and climb or balance. WORKING ENVIRONMENT: • Must be able to function under considerable levels of stress and be able to manage multiple tasks. • Must be able to deal with the public in a professional and courteous manner on a regular basis. • Must be able to maintain amicable working relationships with co-workers, and management. • Regularly exposed to outside weather conditions. • Frequently exposed to high, precarious places. • The noise level in the work environment is usually moderate and can be loud at times.Business Job No. 1841


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ABCDEFCookie Monster!
Design by TREVOUR
Say somethin' nice
No account?
saraharenton on Nov 27, 2013 at 20:29:49
I love this shirt! The video was just too cute to forget.
tatyana.skripnikova on Dec 12, 2012 at 08:44:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYIRO97dhII here is this video
ncginger2000 on Nov 3, 2012 at 13:54:53
"Next time Cookie Monster can sing it with you. I'm leaving"
"I love you."
"I love you too."
This skit always made me smile!
baxtermonkey on Nov 2, 2012 at 20:45:24
As with several of these "Sesame Street" designs I would get them...except they're on white or cream shirts. Bleh. Also, REALLY sad that my favorite design (characters with their puppeteers) didn't get produced. Oh Threadless, you have disappointed me so!!!
PedestrianX on Nov 2, 2012 at 19:33:21
OH MY GOSH!! Great design, I loved this skit, too! I always make reference to it and no one ever knows what I'm talking about until I explain the skit to them, and then I have to show them on my phone...then we all laugh. ^_^
(My job requires orders to be filed in alphabetical order, so every once in a while I'll start singing it like this, lol).
LordGamblor on Nov 2, 2012 at 12:35:20
This was one of my absolute favorite sketches on Sesame Street when I was growing up. It made me laugh so much.
Rachet88 on Nov 2, 2012 at 10:37:41
I adored this skit!! Sweet little girl then telling Kermit, "I love you." as he walks away in disgust. SO SWEET!!!!


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