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Hey Inhabitat readers! In case you missed it, we just wrapped up our broadcast of the Design with a Conscience conference in San Francisco, CA! We teamed up with Ford Motor Company and the American Institute for Architects (AIA) San Francisco to deliver you a peek at a thought-provoking event, which brought together visionary California architects and automotive designers eager to talk about the intersection of car and building design and how conscious design can spur innovation in both industries. This year's star panel included: Allison Williams, principal architect at AW ink; Anne Fougeron, Founder of Fougeron Architecture; Ann Hand, CEO of Project Frog; and Freeman Thomas, Director of Strategic Design at Ford Motor Company. Though the event is over, you can read a few highlights from the panel after the break. We'll also be posting a video recording of the conference very soon, so check back for it if you missed the live event.
Design with a Conscience Panelists
Allison Williams, FAIA, Architect at AW ink
Allison G. Williams is a principal architect at AW ink. In a career spanning more than 30 years in corporate practice, Williams has designed significant large-scale projects in the San Francisco Bay Area, nationally and internationally. The breadth of her work spans civic, corporate and cultural facilities, places for research and education, mixed-use and high density developments. Williams' studio design leadership has influenced the work of both Skidmore Owings & Merrill (1980-1997) and Perkins+Will (1997-2012) where with consistent recognition by her professional peers, she evolved to partnership levels. She was a recipient of The Loeb Fellowship at Harvard Graduate School of Design, and received both her Masters of Architecture and Bachelor of Art in the Practice of Art at the University of California, Berkeley. She was elevated to Fellow in the American Institute of Architects in 1997, and served on Perkins+Will Board of Directors from 2010-2012. She is also a member of the Harvard Design Magazine Practitioners Board and past-Chair of Public Architecture's Board of Directors.
Anne Fougeron, Founder of Fougeron Architecture
Anne Fougeron, FAIA, is principal of Fougeron Architecture in San Francisco, California. Born of French parents and raised in Paris and New York, she credits her bicultural upbringing as the source of her aesthetic values, which combine a respect for historic precedent with an interest in melding old and new. In 1986 she founded Fougeron Architecture and went on to design award-winning private- and public- sector projects in a decidedly modernist vocabulary. Fougeron has taught architectural design to undergraduate and graduate students at the California College of the Arts in San Francisco and the University of California, Berkeley, where she served as the Howard Friedman Visiting Professor of Professional Practice in the Department of Architecture from 2003 to 2004.
Ann Hand, CEO of Project Frog
Ann Hand is the CEO of smart-building startup Project Frog. She didn't begin her career in a green job. As an executive in training with Mobil, she ran gas stations in inner city Philadelphia, and she went on to spend about 19 years in the oil industry with ExxonMobil, Amoco and BP, where she led global marketing around "Beyond Petroleum."Now Ann is in charge of Project Frog, a green-business startup that is serious about shaking up the construction industry. Project Frog aims not only to create better buildings–buildings that are attractive, energy-efficient and pleasant places to work–but also to change the way buildings are made. Its structures are modular construction put together from pre-fab kits of parts, shipped by truck and assembled onsite.
Freeman Thomas, Director, Strategic Design, Ford Motor Company
Freeman Thomas won his first drawing competition in the first grade — it was a fire truck. Today, Thomas is credited with delivering some of the hottest designs in the automotive industry. "I have been designing my dream cars all my life," says Thomas. "It's my passion." As the Director of Strategic Design at Ford Motor Company, Thomas runs the advanced design studios in California and Dearborn, Michigan. He also works closely with engineers and product experts to create compelling new production vehicles. Prior to joining Ford in 2005, Thomas was the head of DaimlerChrysler's Pacifica Advanced Design Center. His 22-year career boasts a hit parade of vehicles including the Chrysler 300 concept, the Audi TT concept and Volkswagen Concept 1 (known today as the New Beetle).
Design With a Conscience Live Blog
Hello everyone and welcome to the Design With a Conscience live blog! AW ink Principal Architect Allison Williams will be moderating today's panel as she joins Anne Fougeron, Ann Hand, and Freeman Thomas in discussing the connections between architecture and automotive design and exploring the ways that conscious design can spur innovation.
Allison Williams began by talking about the parallels between automotive design and building design. Many architects have delved into the realm of auto design – including Buckminster Fuller, Corbusier, Walter Gropius, Renzo Piano, Zaha Hadid, and Norman Foster – although some of their crossover works were not very successful. Similarly, many automotive companies have sought out buildings that reflect their brands. We're now moving on to our first question:
Given all the overlaps and parallels between building and auto design, what makes each discipline unique and distinct, and what makes them parallel ventures?
Ann Hand: Project Frog exists because we don't think there should be a difference. We bring together human-centered design. We think there's a wonderful world out there for beautiful buildings, but we think we can democratize the design and construction of smaller buildings.
Anne Fougeron: Every project ends up being a thing of its own, and even though we want to be able to improve efficiency on the production end, we try to design things that people really want to be in.
As we think about what comes next in car design, do any of the issues in the environment, like dealing with earthquakes, for example, affect cars in the same way that they do buildings?
Ann Hand: While buildings have certain aspects of them that don't move, buildings do have a pulse to them … and we have to look at the way that buildings will change in their contexts. And aside from utility bill reduction, buildings also have a relationship to the people that inhabit them.
Ann Fougeron: You're building a structure that is going to outlive you for many decades, and in that sense, it's very different from a car.
On the phone Freeman suggested that the automotive is the most complex design object ever. Is that about the manufacturing of components as opposed to the one-off work of creating a building?
Freeman Thomas: The automobile truly is the most complex object that you can buy. Even more so than computers and other technologies. The competition in the auto industry is greater than any other industry in the world. It's more difficult to build an automobile in the regulatory sense than it is to send someone up into space. We have a responsibility for everyone who drives one of our products.
Freeman Thomas: At the end of the day, you won't forgive a company that makes a mistake, because you expect it to be perfect.
Ann Hand: Do the people who occupy a building – do they have that same right? How can the ensure that a building won't fail you?
Allison Williams: People who are forced to use bad buildings don't forgive the architect.
On the sustainability front, consumers want something more than what looks good and they want to think they're making a good choice. How can green building practices inform automotive design and vice versa?
Anne Fougeron: Sustainability is interesting in buildings when it is a holistic approach – cars already do that.
I like the notion that we can think about these things in broad categories.
Freeman Thomas: The plug-in hybrid is amazing because it's something you can use without a grid, sort of like a horse — it gives you complete freedom. We have to reverse engineer, and we have to learn from our mistakes. A great man is one who learns from his mistakes — an amazing man is one who learns from someone else's mistakes.
Ann Hand: Here's a specific example: we introduced an acoustical steel decking material into our smart roof panels. What was exciting about it is that by bringing that one material in, we could then integrate LED lighting and increase ceiling heights by 3 feet. One material choice can have a knock-on effect that carries throughout the whole project.
Would you say the risk in architecture is much greater than in automotive design because you're building something for a 73-year cycle, instead of a 12-year cycle?
Allison Williams: It seems that in the automotive industry [the goal is to] be sure that the next car you design is better than the last one. I think in architecture it's a very different risk proposition. The risk in architecture is, in some ways, much greater because of the longer lifecycle of buildings.
Freeman Thomas: We do things in a smart way. For example with the Fusion, we develop a platform where we can use it [not just for the Fusion] but for a whole series of [other cars and solutions] . . in the automotive industry, Ford's goal is to make its next car better than its last, and to ensure that it's putting something on the market that uses the existing technology smartly, and puts something on the market that people want to buy. Architects face different challenges. The risk in architecture is much greater, because you're building something for a 73-year cycle, instead of a 12-year cycle.
INHABITAT READER QUESTION: How does the evolving technology of design (computers, 3-D, BIM) affect the direction we go in with both automobiles and the built environment?
Freeman Thomas: [These technologies] are a huge part of the design process, but you can't do things purely with a computer – you have to balance analog and the digital. Rapid prototyping is a great tool that we use every day, [but] at the end of the day, there's something about smelling and looking at something – you can't define it.
Ann: We want to integrate rapid prototyping design so that the first customer isn't the guinea pig.
Anne Fougeron: Every single one of those tools is a tool – it isn't the end-all process of how the building works.
AUDIENCE QUESTION: What is the essence and the business case for desirability in design?
Ann Hand: This is why having architects and designers on our staff is so important – they help us figure out what people want and really need, and then we can engineer that into the design.
Anne Fougeron: One of the most sustainable things you can do is build a building that will not be torn down 12 years from now.
Freeman Thomas: We listen to the customer [but] they hire us so that we can lead with new ideas that maybe the customer isn't asking for.
Allison Williams: We're not designing every building to be an icon that stands out. Quite often our task is to tell a story… but tell it quietly, and tell it for 73 years.
Let's imagine the sharing economy continues to expand. If that were to happen, they're not buying cars as consumers — does that change your perspective?
Freeman Thomas: I think that you are always designing for a customer – whether for a group or individual. We are always going to design the best solution/product for that customer.
Freeman Thomas: Cultures many times will throw away their icons. In England they got rid of all their telephone boxes to create a more pragmatic, efficient box… but if we start looking at things more as appliances, we lose the taste for life.
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April 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Can you speak to car colors today? Does the future look more interesting than greys, silvers and whites?
April 11, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Can you imagine a time when the future development of buildings and cars will cross?
April 11, 2013 at 12:18 pm
Why havent you gone to the American way of yesteryear, from Hollywood\\\'s 1930\\\'s and 40\\\'s when Hollywood designed cars of the future that were never built, but only designs on paper. Designs for all ages along with steel bumpers that protects the body that protects the occupants?
April 11, 2013 at 11:50 am
How can architecture in car design help encourage more Americans to buy fuel-efficient or electric vehicles?
April 11, 2013 at 10:30 am
Biomimicry and Biophilia are elements of design. Biophilia connects with the human need for nature and it's therapuetic qualities. Biomimicry connects the processes of nature with innovation (velcro, photovoltaic panels). How are each of these concepts being addressed in architecture and car design and are there overlapping approaches?
April 9, 2013 at 7:16 pm
One of the best cars And I miss it so much! with everything that a car should have , Although a little heavy, Sporty and lots of boot space, fun to drive but the name should have been more exiting, Before its time , like Concord, The Ford Probe 2.8 24v I only I could find one or have one here in Borneo. Build a car like that again with all its things in the right place . ad a GPS and an Engine of tomorrow the sound good, And wow , trouble it , then everyone will want one, Most cars to day are not practical, they have no boot space. Those that do are to big, Why do they still make massive 4 wheel drives to import to Borneo, with all the traffic problems. The front of most car are becoming ugly and some look like they are back to front. People want a car that says something about them. Im a photographer, as cuba diver , I also do kendo and love fishing, Often i buy rods to fit in the car, Not what i would like, And get pissed when I have to leave a rod at home, Scuba kit may be wet, . why are cars lacking sun roofs, places to put an i pod or phone, An easy jack . And air con system that operates (C) when the engine is at a stand still and turns off at traffic light, traffic light and GPS should send a signal to the car to turn off when they are longer then a min. Waiting time, I could give so many more Ideas but have done before and seen then with out no credit. What bugs me I get nocked for not having good maths or English. Ideas come from imagination. Now there is a name for a car.


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Central Banking or Nationalized Banks?
In the aftermath of the bubble burst in '08, Iceland took a radically different path than the United States after their financial crisis and nationalized the banks, threw some people responsible for the crash in jail and bailed out the homeowners instead of worrying about only bailing out the banks. And now they're coming back and their economy is growing again... http://goo.gl/QuKGA
When the banks in Norway declined in 1992, the government simply nationalized them (instead of bailing them out leaving the tax payer to pay the bill) which gave the banking business a breather and was ultimately beneficial for its citizens, because the banking business returned to more traditional banking values, though it only was for a short period of time.
So, in terms of public prosperity is there any merit left to keep the current central banking system, with many private banks and one central bank, instead of nationalized banks?
Nov 9 2012: Such decision depends mainly on one simple thing,which is the capacity of the economy to expand(which is something measurable) and how much money will the citizens needs to create new business(which isn't something directly measurable) . Considering these 2 factors.these 2 alternatives(Central banks or Nationalized banks) can be more or less convenient . Examples where one of these options are,for now,better than the other one are:
- For developing countries and BRIC(with the exception of China),where the demand of financial resources has been becoming huge(both for large scale investiments and for small scale investiments),it's actually more interesting to incentivate competition between banks,so money becomes cheaper to borrow to consumer . The case of China here is special,as,historicaly,its government has been much more power and responsability for economic growth than others countries(such power and responsability existed way before PC rose to Chinese power in 1947) .
- For a country where most of its structure is already lifted,there isn't so much demand for financial resources . With that,Speculation becomes much more dangerous to economy,since it's often,the only method for raising tons of money,differently from a "Developing country" . This is,often,the case of plenty of Western European countries .
Possibly,there are more factors that are as much important as the factors already mentioned(infra-structure and capital demand) . In any case,factors are the only thing that can tell which decision is better . And such factors are largely different,depending on which country you are . As I like to say: "Panaceia is Placebo" .Nov 9 2012: wee need to rid our selves of the old cold war propaganda about capitalism or socialism,
CHINA has now got a free market economy with a lot of capital, drew millions out of poverty through our free market whos the dady there then
Peter Law
Oct 31 2012: I think that governments should keep out of banking. What is the point of individuals being fiscally prudent & then our 'leaders' getting us into debt by messing about with the banks. The power of the banks has grown out of all proportion to their usefulness, mainly due to the casino mentality that can make massive profits one day, & massive losses the next.
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If a bank goes bust it should be given a decent burial, like any other business, instead of vegetating on life support, until the cycle repeats.
The money that I have in the bank is being moved slowly over to a little savings & loan company. They put savers & borrowers together for the princely sum of 1% instead of the 11% or so taken by the banks. We get a good return, & small business gets finance at a more competitive rate. To me this is the way forward & means finance is targeted at where the businesses need it, & the casino's can carry on using someone else's money. The sooner the government turns off the life support the better. Tax is meant for schools & hospitals, not feeding a gambling habit.
:-)Nov 10 2012: John: Re public or private, it was formed in 1916 by, I believe, union or proto -union members, not the City, so, as you say, that would I guess make it "private", although are Electric Utility Coops private? Don't they have a State Charter , so as to be sort of inbetween?Nov 10 2012: I think it would be ideal to have a fixed number of nationalized banks competing with each other, with no private banks allowed, periodically the weakest bank gets eliminated in favor of a new one to keep the competition going. This way all the profits of the banks flow to the citizens.Nov 10 2012: the whole premise of private banks is detrimental to society. the more heavily indebted people are, the more banks profit, so they have incentive to keep people under a burden of debt.
also such banks necessarily are not ideal for a country's citizens, since the bankers' large salaries and bonuses, plus shareholder dividends must all be paid for in higher interest rates, which means people have less money to spend on general consumption. in this way private banks really are a leech on the economy.
making it simple is the best way to go. one national bank in each country, free from private interest or influence, running at cost for the benefit of the citizens. it's good that norway and iceland have started taking out the trash.Nov 9 2012: the cold war is now over lets nationalise everything but keep free enterprise and the free market that way the people will be safer and more prosperous while the coorporations battle it out with eachother and only themselves to exploitNov 9 2012: nationalist banks but with the free market would benifit allNov 1 2012: On one hand, a system with only nationalized banks, apparently, is against the rule of free market. Thus,I think the the former view that a current central banking system with many private banks and central banks can exert more postive influence on financial systems.
However, in reality, as many uncertain factors can play a role in the effect the system produce, this system with both private banks and central ones cannot reach the expectation that we put on it.
On the other hand, one obivious and absolute one of those factors is corruption which is especially severe in India and China. Therefore, a system with a central bank can, at least, regulate better.
Nov 9 2012: most socialist today believe in the free market , look at china they marketed our ass off so no bull about nationalist not for the free market
Nov 10 2012: i think that would be too ideology...Oct 31 2012: Dear Mats
You are not considering the fact that countries have different levels of corruption.
In many countries doing this (nationalizing the private banks) would simply mean that the government will be able to steal more from the population.
Oct 31 2012: I do realize that there is a risk of corruption, but aren't the government by the people, for the people?
Nov 1 2012: No doubt it should be, but in many cases it's not...
Nov 1 2012: I hear you. But that usually would be the case in dictatorships, right? I think for the Western world, we wouldn't tolerate that.Nov 1 2012: Hi Mats
We have some nice examples in Latin America "democracies"...
Nov 1 2012: Are you suggesting that Chávez is exploiting his people?Nov 1 2012: Hmm let me thinkNov 1 2012: Hi Mats,
yes, than can be an explample of "abuse" of power from my perspective (not the only one).
if you are the president you need to care for all the population, not just the half that voted for you.
but thats another discussion :)
Nov 1 2012: How exactly is he abusing his power? Chavez has always fought for the working class and the poor and when he nationalized Venezuela's oil production, the wealth went directly to the people decreasing poverty. It's a reason why he has sat in office for over 12 years. The rich guys will always manage either way.Nov 1 2012: Dear Mats:
Whats your base for that assumption? Have you ever being to Venezuela? Know many people from that country? Checked on the few reliable numbers available?
Ps even if what you say is true, 12 years in power doesn't seam very democratic to me... Do you know that they have had elections in Cuba for decades and Fidel always wins? He must be really popular, and Cuba democratic.
Nov 2 2012: Thank you Julian
Mats a whiff of the coffee?Nov 3 2012: Chavez was the first president in Venezuela to launch social programs to help and alleviate poor people, which has resulted in poverty rate dropping dramatically, raising the education levels and improving the health care system for the poor. This doesn't mean that the country doesn't have problems.
I base my assumptions on that it could have been far worse for Venezuelans. I don't necessarily agree with every single policy in the country and some things are pretty bad like the media censorship (if that is true however), but the fact that he nationalized the oil production is a sign that he cares about his people.Nov 3 2012: To answer my question, I will take that as a nopeNov 7 2012: Dear Mats:
I have being to Venezuela and have friends and acquaintances from that country.
I have many anecdotes to support my view, but let's talk facts.
I don't know it by a fact, but I could bet that previous governments in Venezuela also had social programs, as do most countries in the world, if not all (we can argue about result if you have the data).
Poverty rate:
In 2011 poverty was 27.4% of the population with the lowest 10% of population consuming 1.7% of goods.
Some other facts:
26% inflation rate
Country reserves of ~29bi, vs debt of ~90bi
Oil is 95% of exports and 40% of federal budget revenues
0 immigrants by 1000 people
Maternal mortality: 92 deaths/ 100,000 live births
Infant mortality: 20 deaths/1000 live births
3.7% of children under 5 are underweight
I understand that you have a political position you want to defend, but I believe information is far more persuasive than opinion (even if that opinion is repeated many times).
Do you have any data to support you view?
Things can always be better or worse, do you have any data to support why you think the current government was a good solution?
Do you know where the money generated by oil production goes?
Please answer with information supporting your reasoning.
PS on a more personal note, I think you base your assumptions and political views on your life experience from Norway, so you extrapolate and believe it is somewhat similarly in other countries, except for the existence of bad and greedy people that abuse the population. Reality is more complicated and rhetoric and facts are not equal, and people are not always educated, corruption and violence are everyday facts in many countries, etc. I'm not saying that your view has no value, I just think you are not clear on your bias.Oct 31 2012: i would suggest to frame the question in a different way. as it is now, and often, framed is whether we want the government to fix or manage the banking sector (education, healthcare, etc) to better serve the people.
but one must understand that this fixing or managing consists of banning voluntary interactions between individuals. every time the state comes in to establish something like the FDIC, or prescribe certain types of contracts, or downright socializes banks, it means that some voluntary interactions will be banned. there will be a person and a bank that want to engage in some cooperation that would be beneficial to both, but they can not.
it is not theoretical. the banking sector is so heavily regulated, it almost does not matter if we nationalize all. it makes little difference. but it is not good. it means that the banking sector can not work as people demand it. and since it does not function, the government, of course, proposes more interventions to fix it.
Oct 31 2012: "but one must understand that this fixing or managing consists of banning voluntary interactions between individuals."
So? The law gave them the right to incorporate (otherwise shareholders would have their homes impounded whenever a company they invested in goes bankrupt) and a legal system to battle out their differences and the law can take some of those rights away.
Oct 31 2012: and how do you plan to fix one silly law with another silly law?
in my world, companies would not have special privileges granted by law. only people can have rights, property or responsibility.Nov 1 2012: "the banking sector is so heavily regulated, it almost does not matter if we nationalize all. it makes little difference. but it is not good. it means that the banking sector can not work as people demand it. and since it does not function, the government, of course, proposes more interventions to fix it."
But that scenario contradicts what happened in Norway, right? The nationalization was that which created the turning point for the Norwegian market, where the banking business got a breather and went to more traditional banking values focusing on what banks should be doing; deposits and loans, not push structured products and investment in dubious real estate projects on widows and orphans, which was the reason the banks declined in the first place.
Nov 1 2012: at least you claim so. but of course you don't know what would have happened if the banking sector would have been truly free.
in a free market setting, investment banks have to invest, otherwise where their money is coming from? but in a free market setting, there is not even need for investment banks, the economy does fine without them as well. only in a state-controlled environment it is possible that banks soak up capital, and channel them into non-productive uses.
shawn disney
Nov 1 2012: krisztian: I almost think you are not talking about the US, but some other country . You believe the Banks are "Heavily Regulated"?!~ Please. The main regulation is by the inaptly named "Federal Reserve", a Private Cartel of Bankers, who run not only our banking system, but apparently our government as well, since, although the taxpayers are expected to foot the bill for their various mistakes, but are not allowed even an audit of how they spend the money. The Fed is nothing but a scam for to cover for, and benefit , bankers. Just like President Andrew Jackson said, so long ago.l If you want some more information about this, just see some of Congressman Paul's videos . And I have news for you, whatever they had been doing up to the repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act,, the big Banks have more or less abandoned traditional banking, since their new swindles , like Derivatives, are much more lucrative (for them).,
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Nov 1 2012: that "private cartel" is run buy a guy appointed by the state. and in addition to the fed, there are hundreds of regulations and interventions in the financial sector. start with the fdic, fannie and freddie, housing programs, regulated reserve ratio, fiat money, to the direct regulations you need to meet if you want to create a bank, plus all the laws regulating every industry, like the employer protection laws and customer protection laws.
somewhere in the 19th century, some law (the content of which i don't remember) was made for any banks having at least six clients. my point being, there were banks with less than six clients. local banks for a small town of a few hundred inhabitants. can you imagine in today's environment that you decide to found a bank, you buy a safe, and start to put stickers around the city to advertise your services? do you think this would be legal? that is an unregulated banking sector. compare it to what we have today.
about derivatives. there is a reason why it is so popular. the reason is that they are good. derivatives are the biggest invention in the money markets since the invention of money itself. there is absolutely nothing wrong with derivatives. in fact, derivatives are so good, they made available for the government to inflate a huge housing bubble in a way the public didn't notice. then when it burst, the very tool they used became the scapegoat.
Lejan .
Nov 1 2012: Delusion by repetition:
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Banks = good
Governments = bad
Regulations = bad
If banks are not good, its not them, it's bad regulations arranged by bad governments.
And because banks and companies are the guardian of humanity by their intrinsic nature and all intentions, we do not only have to blame the government for their unfair and evil regulations, we better get rid of them at all!
For our own sake, for the sake of humanity, get rid of all governments, all regulations and free what is best for all of us: A free global market without any regulations whatsoever!
Let the invisible hand guard all of us, our planet, our nature, the sick and weak and the poor and it won't take long and all our problems are finally solved and our future becomes a stable, bright and thriving promise!
What do we need democracy for? It's a pain, because it will produce governments, which will produce all this needless and dangerous regulations which has kept us all this centuries from our capitalist paradise!
And of course we need derivatives, they are good, all of us need them, because they provide us security against any change in the market. They help us to calculate our future. They offer us a nice playground for gambling, so that we finally get to use all our cristal balls, which otherwise would just lay arround as dust-catcher. And derivatives have no risk at all! They are a perfect instument to orchestrate our economy, just by itself and because no one is able to misuse them or to use them for lower purposes. Derivatives are one key to make all of our lifes more safe and easy and no one will be left behind, forever.
So why are we people not getting it? Why don't we see that our tax money is helping our banks to overcome all the evil regulations they have been spellbound with by our evil governments?
We are not bailing out banks, people, we are bailing out our very own and happy future!
Open the market! Down with reguations! Down with governments!
Delusion by repetition...Nov 1 2012: well said.Oct 30 2012: I wasn't aware of this Also, have you returned to something like a more cautious version of the old system now. Really we Americans to our own detriment do not pay attention to new innovations. In addition, talk is more important than the walk. Look at Iceland - A great place for farmers and fishermen. A place where the population has almost been lost or at least had really bad times since Eric the Red. Some of our top people have told them about all the money they could make - Well maybe not the farmers and fisherman. The most beautiful women in the World and no poor people - Sounds like a success at least Bobby Fischer thought so But someone was going to be rich Look what happened. A popular old movie in America is "it's a Wonderful Life' The hero is not Mr. Potter the banker.
Oct 30 2012: "have you returned to something like a more cautious version of the old system now."
The nationalization of the banks in Norway was only for a short period of time, we've definitely gone back to the central banking system again.
"Look at Iceland - A great place for farmers and fishermen."
Funny you should mention Iceland. They actually went to the street and demanded change of government, after the stock market crash which crashed their banks and where they were initially made to bail out the banks, and got through. And when a national poll were hold about tax payers bailing out the banks, 93% said no way. Not only that, they are now currently writing a new constitution, that would free the country from the power of international finance and money, done by the people, through the internet, and not the politicians because of the deep mistrust towards politics. They took matters into their own hands and no one is reporting this. Unbelievable.Oct 29 2012: The more centralized the money is the further away it gets from the small business person that needs it. The small community bank is much more transparent and less likely to do irresponsible things with your deposits and savings. I you truely want to balance and evenly distribute currency you need to spread it out among a large number of competitive players. Centralize defeats competition and drives up curruption in the form of unwarrented points and fees.
Oct 30 2012: John Smith helped me articulate it, so please take a second look at my description. Sorry for the inconvenience.Nov 1 2012: Wade: you're right. So , logically, that should result in drastic limits placed on the size of Banks. They should be constrained , by their GOVERNMENT ISSUED CHARTERS, to be "Too small to Fail spectacularly".Oct 29 2012: Is your question whether a country's central bank which controls money supply as well as the interest rates other banks pay should be government run or entirely privatized?
Oct 29 2012: I believe that what he asks is which would be the better of these two systems:
1) the current central banking system with many private banks and one central bank per country
2) a system with only nationalized banks
Oct 30 2012: This is exactly what I mean. Thank you for articulating it for me, John. Please forgive me while I shamelessly steal your comment including it in my description!Nov 1 2012: Why not a mixture? I belong to a City Credit Union. It's not government run, and its not Private. It's similiar to an electric coop. Seems like the best of both worlds..
Nov 10 2012: Is it owned by the municipality or the is it just a credit union (owned by members) with the word "City" glued to it? In the former case it's government run (a municipality is a government), in the latter case it's privately run.Oct 29 2012: And I agree with both, Krisztián and Fritzie.
I am not sure, but are you talking about the difference between "reserve banks" and "nationalized banks"? Each country has its own set of terms, where sometimes their usage does not match the usage in other countries.
Also, I think you misused the word "beneficiary". Perhaps, you meant "beneficial"?
Oct 29 2012: I'm a little confused about the terms myself, to be completely honest. I think I mean the difference between "reserve banks" and "nationalized banks", where nationalized banks are owned by the government and reserve banks are privately held. Would this be a right distinction?
Oct 29 2012: Not exactly. Reserve banks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank on wikipedia) define a currency. Reserve banks get to decide lending rates, the amount of currency in circulation, print the currency notes, define the value of the currency, manage gold reserves, etc.
But your definition nationalized banks seems to be the same as mine. However, doing a quick search online for "nationalized bank" reveals mostly Indian banks. (Don't know why!) http://www.info2india.com/finance/banks/nationalised-banks/ was one such article. These banks seem to be run either by the state government or the central government. India has its own central bank, of course -- the Reserve Bank of India.
Oct 30 2012: John Smith helped me articulate it, so please take a third look at my description. I am so sorry for the big mess! Thanks for the links by the way.Oct 29 2012: I agree with Krisztian that it would be fruitful to start with the definitions you propose we use in making the distinction.
There is a wikipedia article that is flagged as unverified that makes the distinction that a Central Bank is like the Federal Reserve bank that manages currency and lends only to other banks, whereas the term National bank is used less technically or more broadly to include sometimes any commercial bank that operates nationally, any bank owned by a country rather than privately held, or any bank chartered under a national law rather than a state law, whether on not it operates nationally.
So the term "national bank" can mean many different things. Again, this source flags itself as unverified, but if you could put forward the comparison you want here, the discussion will not quickly veer off into disputes over useful terminology.
Oct 29 2012: Yes, I am sorry about the confusion. Hopefully, I've clarified myself now. Or did I completely mix the terms yet again? Governments nationalizing banks means national banks, rights? Thanks for noticing that about the Wiki-article by the way.
Oct 29 2012: I am glad you clarified, as I absolutely would never have thought of a central bank or national bank with those definitions! For example, the bank in the US that most would consider the central bank -responsible for matters such as interest rates to other banks, money supply, and so forth- is definitely not a private bank, and the banks in the US that are called national banks are private.
Oct 30 2012: John Smith helped me articulate it, so please take a third look at my description. I am so sorry for the big mess!Nov 1 2012: Fritzie: In the spiirit of trying to clarify the disc ussion, I hope you were not referring to the "Federal Reserve System " as "the Central Bank,"part of the government?! It pretends to be regulated by the government, but is actually a Private Cartel of Bankers. Any "regulation" that might occur is in the opposite direction, as when its members and ex-members convinced the taxpayers that their favorite banks were "Too Big To Fail" , a real triumph of self serving propaganda. Which, apparently, did not benefit small Main St. banks at all.Nov 1 2012: Here is a description of the Federal Reserve Bank, the central bank in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_SystemOct 29 2012: just go ahead a little more, and define your terms then. what is a national bank and what is a central bank? i'm not aware of any difference between the two.
Oct 29 2012: Yes, I am sorry about the confusion. Hopefully, I've clarified myself now.
Oct 29 2012: does not help. what about the US fed? it is a private organization, but the chairman is appointed by the government, and any profits go to the central budget.
not really important though, in essence they are the same. i doubt you can find any country in which the central bank is not closely cooperating with the government, and not heavily regulated.
Oct 29 2012: I realize that I've mixed up my terms here, but maybe you could help me. I think I mean the difference between "reserve banks" and "nationalized banks", where nationalized banks are owned by the government and reserve banks are privately held. Would this be a right distinction? If so, are the any differences in terms of public prosperity?Oct 29 2012: and in which country you have a reserve bank that is not a state established or state controlled central bank?
i'm not a historian person, but according to my limited knowledge, banks for long aspired such reserve against bank runs, but never was able to pull it off without the help of governments.
Oct 30 2012: John Smith helped me articulate it, so please take a third look at my description. I am so sorry for the big mess!
Gail .
Oct 29 2012: Neither.
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Oct 30 2012: John Smith helped me articulate it, so please take a second look at my description. Sorry for the inconvenience. If you still feel the same way, please feel free to elaborate.Oct 29 2012: The color of a rose. Transparacy and common sense may help most ideas work better. However, the greedy will always invvent new bubbles.
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If you want to start a scientific discussion thats one thing, its actually a great thing to sit down and learn just a little bit more. But starting a scientific discussion just to say "thanks for the comments but I never planned on critically analyzing them from the start" thats trolling lol.
My advice: Go to college an be an art major if you dont want to end up with any critical thinking skills. Maybe just skip college and get a job that doesnt require much thinking in general
lol jk, you're young and naive. Im probably being to harsh on you. Enjoy you're blissfully ignorant view of how the world works before youre force to grow up


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Who today believes the US government is not corrupt? What is the problem and how can we fix it weighs on the minds of intellectuals and laborers alike. But, the answer requires some objective distancing from the problem and this is where too many Americans are too distracted, too tempted, too dependent, too confused, too apathetic about the system to connect the dots that are plain to see.
Our history has been distorted by the influence of money. Before we can fix the problem, we've got to know where the problem came from, and there are massive volumes by distinguished professors who've spent their entire careers on this, so obviously an amateur like me is not going to add anything to the conversation in a blog post.
Instead, I'll let the experts speak in their own words, and then you might start connecting the dots, too.
"In the United States today we have in effect two governments . . .We have the duly constituted Government . . . Then we have an independent, uncontrolled and uncoordinated government in the Federal Reserve System, operating the money power which are reserved to Congress by the Constitution." (Patman, Congressman Wright, Newsletter, June 6, 1968.)
The Divide is Manufactured
One of the greatest misunderstandings of the American public is that there is any real ideological divide or destabilizing forces vying for power between Blue and Red, North and South, Religious and Secular that is causing the corruption. This is a tool of mass distraction. Money in politics is the problem, many people claim this, without understanding that money IS politics.
"Give me control over a nation's currency and I care not who makes its laws." Baron Mayor Amschel Rothschild
"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from its profits or so dependent on its favors, that there will be no opposition from that class." -- Rothschild Brothers of London, 1863
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance." James Madison (1751-1836) 4th US President
100 Years of a Cartel-run Economy
A cartel is a government-sanctioned monopoly.
From Superclass by David Rothkopf, "We need look at only a few examples to get a sense of the impact of this connection between elites in different power clusters. At the time of this writing, Goldman's board includes Stephen Friedman, the former Goldman CE and current chairman of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, and James Johnson, the former head of Fannie Meai and top adviser to Democratic presidential candidates. Within Goldman we find a wide variety of former top government officials including, to name a few, the former undersecretary of state Bob Hormats, the former undersecretary of the treasure John F. W. Rogers, and the former New York Fed chairman Gerald Corrigan. Look at top firms besides Goldman and the results are the same. The board of Morgan Stanley includes former White House chief of staff Erskine Bowles, former National Economic Council chair Laura Tyson, and former SEC chief accountant Donald Nicolaisen. The board of Citibank: former CIA director John Deutch and former treasury secretary Robert Rubin. The board of Lehman Brothers: former Ex-IM Bank chairman John Macomber and former Rear Admiral Marsha Johnson Evans. . . Of course, the list does not stop at America's borders; the lists of international leaders with ties to major financial institutions is a long one as well."
In the 100 years since the inception of the Federal Reserve we've gone from shunning the concept of a central bank to openly boasting that's what we have, from the agrarian mentality that debt is a sin at worst or a grave stupidity at best to students graduating en masse directly into the surf system, to families maxing-out their credit cards, mortgaging themselves to the hilt, not saving for the future, but in fact perpetually borrowing from it, just like the government. We have sold ourselves and our children to the banksters who are running our world.
"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank . . . sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world." (Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley)
100 years later, and they have in effect succeeded in their plan and have no intention in future of letting up on the control reigns.
"One of Yellen's challenges will be to defend the notion that the Fed serves all the American people, and that it deserves to remain a largely self-managed institution, free from outside interference by the president or Congress. . . Yellen will also have to keep the economic recovery going while beginning the long march toward "normalizing" the Fed's monetary policies." http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/2014/0119/What-Janet-Yellen-will-do-with-the-nation-s-purse/%28page%29/6
"The job of the FED is to take away the punch bowl just as the party is getting going." Former FED Chairman William McChesney Martin Jr
"It is well enough that the people of our nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." Henry Ford, 1922
And my favorite quote of the year:
Addressing the Annual Dinner in Honor of Economic Operators, the Governor of the Bank of Mauritius in his speech Looking Beyond Vision 2020
"Who would have thought grand larceny on a global scale would have had such a favorable impact on financial literacy?"
Keep your eye on the silver lining while they continue business as usual!
Self-reliance is more than just an illusion of separating from the Matrix, it is taking steps toward a very practical kind of Anarchy–the State will have decreasing impact on our lives and we will be withdrawing our energies, money, skills and capacities from their control.
Don't let the term Anarchy scare you, the Powers that Shouldn't Be rely on your fear. Anarchy means nothing more than NO RULERS.
Learn more about anarchy from the modern-day experts:
Everyday Anarchy by Stefan Molyneux
Practical Anarchy by Stefan Molyneux (both free downloads!)
An excellent debate Authority vs Anarchy:


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JT. It's the question of the day on the Dolphin desk Calendar.
JT. It's the question of the day on the Dolphin desk Calendar.
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Originally Posted by Ace88
yea, that year pissed me off cause we had the leader in rushing, sacks and still didnt make the damn playoffs!!!!!!!!!!
2004Dwight Freeney, Indianapolis, AFC16.0
Bertrand Berry, Arizona, NFC14.5
2003Michael Strahan, N.Y. Giants, NFC18.5
Adewale Ogunleye, Miami, AFC15.0
2002Jason Taylor, Miami, AFC18.5
2002 Jason Taylor 18.5. second was Simeon Rice with 15.5
Bill Stanfill had 18.5 in 1973 but NFL only compiled sacks starting in 1982
I know there's speculation that had they been keeping track of sack stats back in Deacon Jones' heyday, then Strahan would only have been like 2/3rds of the way toward breaking the single season sack record in 2001. LOL.Originally Posted by vmarcilfan75
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Another "wannabe" mod. Let me guess, you read all of the responses, and your best response is to moved the thread......congrats to you my friend, congrats.
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Also, is there a pointless post forum?Originally Posted by phinfan999
Seriously, did you have to quote that long as post?
It is now your responsible to ask the forum that question everyday. Thanks....Originally Posted by opfinistic
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In response to a civil complaint filed Dec. 6 by Elk County Sheriff Jeffrey C. Krieg against the county's board of commissioners, Tom Wagner, county solicitor acting on behalf of the board, has filed a response regarding the issues and has introduced new matters in the case.
RIDGWAY - On the evening of Jan. 2, 2011, an 89-year-old Johnsonburg man was home alone when two intruders forced their way into his home and held him to the ground while brandishing a knife and demanding money from him.
The Wreaths Across America National Remembrance Ceremony honoring all deceased veterans will be held at the St. Mary's Catholic Cemetery on Saturday at noon, followed by the placement of wreaths on the graves of veterans in both the Catholic and Protestant cemeteries. The wreaths were previously purchased by members of the community through Wreaths Across America and are designated for the graves of specific veterans. Any extra wreaths will be placed on the veterans' monuments at both cemeteries.
During the most recent Fox Township Supervisors meeting Tom Wildnauer, Fox Township Fire Police captain, provided the supervisors with information ensuring that workers' compensation will be provided when fire police officers perform activities that are not considered emergency calls.
Last month marked 78 years since one of the most fateful days in the history of Andrew Kaul Memorial Hospital-- the day the hospital was destroyed by fire on Nov. 27, 1934.
John S. Muccio, 83, of Cherry Avenue in Weedville, died Wednesday, Dec. 12, 2012 at his home.
Born on Dec. 1, 1929 in Penfield, he was the son of the late Joseph and Rose (DiLullo) Muccio.
On June 26, 1954 at the St. Joseph Roman Catholic Church in Force, he married Geraldine H. (Facchine) Muccio, who survives.
John was a dock worker for Ward Trucking Co. in Falls Creek for over 30 years. After retirement, he was the janitor at Bennetts Valley Elementary School for several years. For over 50 years, he drove school bus for Muccio Transportation.
Roy A. "Stony" Defranco, 92, of 215 Bergen St., Johnsonburg, died Tuesday night, Dec. 11, 2012 at Elk Regional Health Center following a brief illness.
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Manovo-Gounda St Floris National Park
Manovo-Gounda St Floris National Park
The importance of this park derives from its wealth of flora and fauna. Its vast savannahs are home to a wide variety of species: black rhinoceroses, elephants, cheetahs, leopards, wild dogs, red-fronted gazelles and buffalo, while various types of waterfowl are to be found in the northern floodplains.
Parc national du Manovo-Gounda St Floris
L'importance de ce parc tient à la richesse de sa flore et de sa faune. Ses vastes savanes abritent des espèces de mammifères très variées : rhinocéros noirs, éléphants, guépards, léopards, chiens sauvages, gazelles à front roux, buffles, et différents types d'oiseaux aquatiques qui trouvent un habitat dans les plaines d'inondation du Nord.
منتزه مانوفو غوندا سانت فلوريس
تعود أهمية هذا المنتزه الى غنى ثروته النباتية والحيوانية. فسهول السافانا الشاسعة التي يتألف منها تأوي أصنافاً فائقة التنوع من الثدييات كوحيد القرن الأسود والفيلة وفهد الغيبار وفهد الليوبار والكلاب البرية والغزلان الصهباء الجبين والجواميس ومختلف أصناف الطيور المائية التي تجد لنفسها مسكناً في سهول الفيضانات الشمالية.
source: UNESCO/ERI
source: UNESCO/ERI
Национальный парк Маново-Гоунда–Сен-Флорис
Ценность этого парка связана с его богатой флорой и фауной. Обширные саванны служат местообитанием для самых разных животных: черных носорогов, слонов, гепардов, леопардов, гиеновых собак, краснолобых газелей, буйволов. А влажная местность на севере привлекает массу водоплавающих птиц.
source: UNESCO/ERI
Parque nacional del Manovo-Gounda St.Floris
La importancia de este parque se debe a la riqueza de su flora y fauna. Sus vastas sabanas ofrecen refugio a una gran variedad de mamíferos –rinocerontes negros, elefantes, leopardos, onzas, perros salvajes, gacelas frentirrojas y búfalos– y las llanuras inundables de la zona norte albergan diferentes tipos de aves acuáticas.
source: UNESCO/ERI
source: NFUAJ
Manovo-Gounda Nationaal park Sint Floris
Dit nationaal park omvat een totale oppervlakte van 1.740.000 hectare en is belangrijk vanwege zijn rijkdom aan flora en fauna. De uitgestrekte savannes zijn de thuisbasis van een grote verscheidenheid aan diersoorten: zwarte neushoorns, olifanten, cheeta's, luipaarden, wilde honden, gazellen, krokodillen en buffels. In de noordelijke uiterwaarden zijn verschillende soorten watervogels te vinden. In de regio van Sint Floris zijn 320 vogelsoorten geïdentificeerd, waarvan ten minste 25 soorten roofvogels zoals de Bataleur en Afrikaanse zeearend. In het gebied komen grote seizoensgebonden populaties voor van de pelikaan en de maraboe ooievaar. Het park is daarnaast belangrijk voor watervogels en steltlopers.
Source: unesco.nl
Outstanding Universal Value
Brief synthesis
With an area of 1,740,000 ha, Manovo-Gounda St Floris is the largest park in the Central African savannas. Straddling the two ecological zones, Manovo-Gounda St Floris National Park owes its importance to its rich flora and fauna. It is home to many endangered species including the black rhino, elephant, hippopotamus and red-fronted gazelle as well as large concentrations of herbivores.
This Park is an interesting example of a "crossroads" where the species from savanna communities of East and West Africa, as well as those of the forest communities of the South, cross paths. The Park is a valuable area for the study of environmental changes occurring throughout the Sahel and Sudan under pressure from drought and overgrazing.
Criterion (ix): The Manovo Gounda St Floris National Park contains extraordinary natural formations. The Park straddles the Sudano-Sahelian and Sudano-Guinean biogeographical zones. This results in a variety of habitats from grassy plains in the north to savannas with gallery forests in the south. The property encompasses the entire watershed of three major rivers (Manovo, Koumbala and Gounda) with grassy floodplains and wetlands. The plains are interspersed with small granitary inselbergs with, to the south, the rugged sandstone massif of the Bongos.
This vast Park, surrounded by hunting areas and with a functional corridor to the National Park of Bamingui-Bangoran, protects the largest savanna of Central Africa. It represents a unique example of this type of ecosystem, home to viable populations of different species typical of this part of Africa and others from East and West Africa.
Criterion (x): The Park's wildlife reflects its transitional position between East and West Africa, the Sahel and the rainforests. It contains the richest fauna of the country including about 57 species of mammals that have been well protected in the past. In this respect, it resembles the rich savannas of East Africa.
Several important large mammal species in terms of conservation live in the Park, such as black rhino, elephant, hippopotamus, red-fronted gazelle (here at the southern limit of its range), lion, leopard, cheetah and wild dog. There are large concentrations of herbivores, including buffalo, Buffon's kob, waterbuck, and red hartebeest. Some 320 species of birds have been recorded in the Park, of which at least 25 species of raptors. Flood plains to the north of the Park are largely adequate for water birds, and the shoebill has been observed in the Park.
With a total area of 1,740,000 ha, the Park is almost completely surrounded by the game reserves of Ouandija-Vakaga and Aouk-Aoukalé (480,000 ha and 330,000 ha respectively), which provide effective protection against threats to the property from surrounding areas. Other hunting areas and reserves are also connected with the property, resulting in a contiguous area of 80,000 km2 of protected areas. The property is large enough to ensure species viability.
Nevertheless, the integrity of the Park is a cause for concern because of the numerous threats, poaching in particular (notably of rhinoceros, elephant and giraffe) and grazing. The lack of protection and land management measures was also noted at the time of inscription of the property.
Protection and management requirements
The site has National Park status. It is governed by the 1984 Wildlife Protection Code on which the national legislation on the management of protected areas is based. At the time of inscription, the Park was managed by a private company (Manova SA) which benefited from a governmental contract to manage the site. The Park was then regarded as the best-managed protected area of the country.
Today, conservation is under the authority of the Ministry of Water and Forests, Hunting and Fishing, with a structure consisting of the Chief of Staff, the Director-General of Water, Forests, Hunting and Fishing, the Director of Wildlife and Protected Areas, the regional directors, site managers and national conservators. Two bases (Manova and Gordil) are situated alongside the Park, to the east and west, but only the former is truly functional. Anti-poaching actions are primarily organised from these bases, limited by the lack of personnel, means of transport and the prevailing insecurity in the Park.
The region is sparsely populated. However, nomad pastoralists from the Sudanese region of Nyala and from Chad, with 30 – 40,000 head of cattle, enter the Park every winter – the dry season grazing halt on their traditional seasonal migration routes. There is also dispersed and limited agricultural activity in the environs of the Park.
The pressures of poaching and grazing highlight the need for a functional management or development plan for the Park. This plan should take into account the zoning of the Park and its relationship with the Village Hunting Zones in the periphery, with participative management and a Development Plan for the entire north-east territory (grazing areas and redefinition of the seasonal migration corridors).
The creation of a transborder "Zakouma National Park (Chad) –Manovo Gounda St Floris National Park" protected area is also desirable.
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The area occupies most of the eastern end of Bamingui-Bangoran Province in the north of the country, on the international border with Chad. The boundaries on three sides of the park are formed by the international border, the eastern and southern borders of the province, whereas the western boundary is mainly marked by the Manovo River. The park comprises three main zones: the flood plain of the Bahr Aouk and Bahr Kameur rivers in the north, the Massif des Bongo in the south, and a gently undulating transitional plain between. The lowland areas, which are seasonally flooded, have fine, deep, alluvial soils, although drainage in these areas may be quite poor. This gives way to a flat plain with coarse, generally ferruginous and well-drained soils, in which some areas, particularly the depressions, have developed a lateritic or ironstone shield, on which woody vegetation is noticeably sparse or absent. The massif, which is separated from the plain by an escarpment, is chiefly composed of sandstone and is highly dissected. Five major rivers run down from the massif through the park to the Bahr Aouk and Bahr Kameur. These are the Vakaga, Goro, Gounda, Koumbala and Manovo. However, the flow may be interrupted towards the end of the dry season, and may actually only reach the Bahr Aouk and Bahr Kameur during the wettest months.
The predominant vegetation type over much of the park is Sudanese-Guinean woodland savannah which can be divided into five types: Terminalia laxiflora wooded savannah; Isoberlinia doka and Monotes kerstingii woodland; Pseudocedrela kotschyi and Terminalia macroptera woodland; mixed lowland woodland or wooded savannah; and Anogeissus leiocarpus and Khaya senegalensis .
The lowland areas are subject to both flooding and fire, and this is reflected to some extent in the vegetation. Further south, the higher ground is covered by bamboo open savannah, and woodlands associated with the hilly areas of the river sources.
Several species of particular conservation concern occur within the park: black rhinoceros, elephant, leopard, cheetah, wild dog, shoebill and crocodile. Unfortunately, poaching still has a significant effect on rhinoceros and elephant numbers, and has in the past affected both leopard and crocodile. Red-fronted gazelle is also found within the park at its southern limit.
Within the St Floris region, the most abundant large mammal would appear to be kob, with nine other fairly abundant ungulates including the duiker, waterbuck, hartebeest, oribi, topi, reedbuck, buffalo and warthog. Other conspicuous or noteworthy large mammals include hippopotamus, roan antelope, lion, giraffe and giant eland. Less common animals include golden cat, red-flanked duiker and yellow-backed duiker. Some 320 species of bird have been identified, with at least 25 species of raptor including bataleur and African fish eagle. There are large seasonal populations of pelican and marabou stork, and the park may be fairly important for both waterbirds and shorebirds.Source: UNESCO/CLT/WHC
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The Part national Manovo-Gounda-St Floris was declared on 17 May 1979 with a total area of 1,740,00Oha, including the previously designated St Floris National Park and the former Safarafric hunting/tourism concession. Part of the area was first designated as Oubangui-Chari National Park (13,SOOha) on 10 December 1933 and renamed Matoumara National Park in 1935. The area was subsequently redefined on 27 July 1940 as St Floris National Park with an area of 40,00Oha, enlarged to cover 100,700ha in 1960, and again to cover 277,600ha in 1974. The area previously designated St Floris National Park forms the northern region of the current park. Inscribed on the World Heritage list in 1988.Source: Advisory Body Evaluation
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Walt Disney's Grave on his birthday - December 5 2012
As I do every year for the past several years I make a pilgrimage to Walt Disney's grave on the occasion of his birthday.
Here's how it looked yesterday when I paid a visit to his final resting place on December 5, 2012.
This is the gate to the garden area where his grave is located. Click on the picture for a better view.
As I entered I noticed that new sod (grass) had been placed in the garden. Very nice to see that it's being maintained.
Here it is as I found it.
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These are photos of Walt's resting place as I approached. His ashes are interred here along with his wife and son-in-law. His daughter's ashes were scattered.
Re: Walt Disney's Grave on his birthday - December 5 2012
I made sure to bring some birthday flowers for Walt. Here's a couple of shots of this year's bouquet.
The flowers were provided by Dan Codron of Flowers By Dan in North Hollywood, California. He was the corporate florist for the Disney Company for many years.
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There's a small statue of a little girl on the grounds of Walt's grave. Sometimes visitors leave little gifts or notes in her lap.
This time there was a button commemorating Walt's birthday. He would have been 111 years old. There was also a white rose that had become withered.
By the entrance to the area there's a little bench where visitors can sit and relax or meditate.
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Heading back home after paying respects.
Thus ends another birthday visit to Walt's grave. Not many people show up on this day. I don't think many people know where his grave is. Plus I'm sure there are plenty of folks who believe his body is frozen and in storage at one of the theme parks. That's not the case friends. Records show that Walt was cremated almost immediately upon his death in 1966 and his ashes were placed in this wall behind the bronze nameplate.
Thank you Walt Disney! We love you! Rest in Peace.
Re: Walt Disney's Grave on his birthday - December 5 2012
As is my tradition, after visiting Walt I head over to the grave of the great Errol Flynn. Perhaps my favorite actor from Hollywood's golden age. His resting place is close by. I placed a white rose at his name.
Re: Walt Disney's Grave on his birthday - December 5 2012
I've been debating whether or not to upload this on YouTube. Decided to go ahead with it after all.
I shot video of my visit to Walt Disney's grave last week on Wednesday, December 5 2012. Reason for my hesitation being that at one point in the video the emotion of the moment and my affection for the man got me chocked up and I was self conscious about it. I think I should put aside my feelings about my narration performance and let people get a better look at Walt Disney's final resting place on earth on the occasion of his 111th birthday.
So here it is.
Sorry about the blue tint to the video. The camera I used tends to do that when I shoot outside.
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