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What's a degree worth?
Education is approaching a change where it will never turn back, but what will we find around that corner?
In America, college degrees mean less and less, and it seems like what's often more important is real-world experience and a competitive portfolio/skill sets. So the question is to put yourself in the following situations to answer the following:
As an employer: Would you rather hire someone with your required skill sets/a competitive portfolio and no college degree, or someone with a degree and good grades but little experience? (everything else held equal)
As a high school graduate: Would you be willing to self-teach yourself to the point where you had marketable skills and an impressive self-made portfolio while risking not having a degree?
Leo Taylor
Feb 4 2013: Another thought struck me as I read these posts. Perhaps a challenge is the current hiring philosophy and restrictions imposed by technology and size of corporations. I hear constantly that degrees are worth less and less, but that you must have one to apply for various jobs. This leads to an almost cold war escalation. AA, BA, Masters, etc.
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It struck me that these degrees are used as a filter for large companies hiring. How do you whittle 2000 applicants down?. Lets hit the 2 year degree filter. Hmm 1000 left. lets hit the 4 year degree filter now down to 500 and so on.
I imagine that there are some great candidates in those first 1000 people lost. So here is a great anecdote I came across a few months back.... You may like this.
The local police chief and I were talking about hiring. Seems they are starting to go back to hiring people without degrees because book smart vs street smart is a VERY different animal.Feb 3 2013: It is the individual that gives value to the degree, even though the degree has its own value. But the human is much more important; because competence and excellence are far better as far as service delivery is concerned.
Dan Clarke
Feb 3 2013: A degree is becoming less about what an employer is looking for and more about the skills it enables some-one to do. As an employer, I'd rather take on someone who I can mould to my companies way of doing things (a non graduate - a blank canves). On the other hand, as a third party investor, I would be far more inclined to bank on a more educated person, who understands and values research as they are far more likely to build an original business based on cutting-edge experties. The graduate can sometimes represent a threat to an established company as they may have their owne ideas on how things should be done. However, a non-graduate with a hunger to learn can master their field by gaining experince with the right mentors. There are many roots to succes but deep down, everyone respects a good degree. DCFeb 2 2013: The question is to broad. I would hope my doctor had a degree. However, many other jobs that require time to develop proficiency may be no-degree slots.
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Addressing "what is a degree worth". It is worth more to the university than to the employee for many years. So the question must be .... how soon is the college graduate a asset to corporate America .... and could corporate America train selected people quicker and better for their needs.
In the last large corporation I worked at a Masters degree was equal to one years experience in the hiring phase. We also became painfully aware that hiring a PHd was only temporary as they spent most of the company time looking for a jump up the corporate ladder with rival companies.
Many of the college graduates were looking for positions ... not jobs.
So the bottom line is that there is no definative answer. The hiring authority must match the requirements to the need for skills, education, and experience level.
Perhaps the time is right to consider tech schools versus universities. Bob.
Dan F
Feb 13 2013: A college degree can offer a growth adventure of a lifetime.
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I was not college material upon getting my high school diploma. I basically slid through the system. I then worked for a couple years and got some advise from an older carpenter I was assisting build a house. I wanted to be his partner. He responded by telling me to go to college. He told me I wasn't a kid anymore and if I tackled it as if I was climbing Mt Everest, I could make it to the top. He said, "You are a good worker, just work hard at learning and you can make it."
I went from bonehead english to eventually receiving my degree in biology.
I tell this story because the world is only as big to us as individuals as we are willing to partiscipate in the challenges that can make it bigger. The more intelligent the individual, other things being equal, the better the prospects in the job market as a significant side benefit of the degree.
I like the idea of being the best you can be whatever the obstacle or challenge.
I consider my degree priceless.
Feb 14 2013: Dan, I am with you in considering my formal education priceless. And it set me up for a lifetime of further learning and adventure.Feb 10 2013: The things you learn in college have an implicit value that cannot be overstated. Working my way through college in middle America has been formative, while the balance of work and school has been in constant, sometimes unmanageable flux. I learned a lot working full time in the workplace-about how to handle work environments, how to show up everyday fifteen minutes early, how to be industrious without burning out and how to warm up to supervisors. I learned diligence, how to manage money and taxes and how to form a personal budget. I learned the true cost of things, how to look at unit costs, how to tighten a leaking faucet-how to hang a shelf on my own. But what I have learned in college is how to be a global citizen. I have made friends from every corner of the planet. I have traveled, I have had my eyes opened and I have been given a deep respect for reason and advancement. I have learned not only my civic duties but how to truly respect and admire the cultures of others. I have been humbled in academic debates, I have had my old views turned upside down and I have been given a long list of "suggested reading". College opens the doors of possibility for a person in more ways than networking or a job ticket... it paints a bigger picture that is dynamic, exciting and it invites you to take part. True, I could have read some Victorian literature on my own and stopped there but instead I had the opportunity to discuss it with graduate students from all different backgrounds, to learn from professors that have published multiple books on the subject, etc. Employers know that college offers such opportunities for personal growth and is indicative of at least strength of character upon its completion. This is why employers often want a bachelor's degree-it is indicative of dedication, hard work and personal development. It is a very rare high school graduate who knows what they want to pursue at 18, knows who they are, and knows how to achieve their goals.College helpsFeb 10 2013: I have a hard time with this question. I'm 37 years old, was a single mom for 12 years. I didn't graduate high school, instead I got my GED. I've gone to community college off and on over the years. I've got over 13 years experience in my field and I have a 6 figure income. A year ago I was looking to relocate and was searching for jobs. All the jobs I chose to apply for had a requirement of a 4 years degree or 5-7 years experience in lieu of the degree. I come to the table with 13+ years experience and I'm certified in my area of expertise. After every interview, the feedback was that I didn't have enough experience. I know my skills, abilities, and experience, I know how much my managers have appreciated me, I'm not making the salary I am now because I don't have the experience and drive or that I'm not a great asset to the team. The only thing I can attribute my rejections to is that I don't have a degree. (Which I'm currently finishing up now)
To answer your questions. As an employer, I wouldn't go based on degree alone. If the candidate has a solid work history, experience and knowledge to back it up then I would consider them for the position.
As a high school graduate, knowing what I know now and have experienced, I would get my degree as soon as I completed high school. That one piece of paper helps open doors that experience alone can not open.Feb 5 2013: I find your question a hot topic!
I have work throughout the years and harvested my skills in which have allowed me to reside in my current position as Director of Operational Standards. I currently have no formal college degree, but several years of college education, and am currently working on my bachelor's degree.
While my skills, experience and track record in my field speak for themselves, I cannot feel somewhat embarrassed of my lack of formal degree or education. I find myself in this position (obtaining a degree currently) because I know the realistic views in which I observe and confront everyday with colleagues.
From my professional and personal experience, I know that a college degree is not always a good measure of a candidates ability or skills that they will bring to the job. Those who may excel in studies do not always excel in the real world. I believe it's a balance and mixture of both academic and real world experience that allow a greatness.
Although I do believe that there is more push on formal academia than real world experience. For most companies, including mine, they will not even consider a candidate unless they have a AA, BA, or (in my position) a Masters degree. How I ended up in my position with not even a bachelors degree is quite astonishing.
While I am more inclined to see candidates with no formal degree, trying to convince my colleagues is another story. I believe that we have a long way to go in corporate America and shifting those traditional ideas and concepts in relation to degree's and their worth.
Leo Taylor
Feb 4 2013: Perhaps we need a new method to measure degrees as they relate to career fields and hiring. As someone pointed out, A doctor should have a degree but perhaps a Customer Service manager (or some other field) does not. I have hired and fired over the years for both clerical and mechanical work. I use a simple philosophy. I hire "nice" people with the skillset of the job. eg. A nice accountant minded person vs not-so nice person that already knows our software. This idea is simple as I believe I can teach a person a new program, BUT I cannot teach "nice".
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Eve Conway
Feb 3 2013: College degrees mean less and less because everyone has one, but therein lies the paradox; if you don't have one employers wonder why you don't have one if everyone else does. Employers clearly value real world experience which is something that recent graduates lack but the point is that these graduates will not always lack experience, 3 or 4 years later they will have both the experience AND the degree which in the long run makes them more employable.Feb 3 2013: A key to unlock the door of job market .....
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Cody Peters
Feb 13 2013: I think the problem here may come from laziness. Let me explain:
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The employer essentially wants to hire someone with the right skills/traits to do the job. Instead of devising a way to seek out and/or test for those particular skills/traits, they rely on a degree to tell them his person "knows" their stuff (a very sloppy/lazy method for obtaining this objective).
The job seeker knows the employer is lazy and looks only at degree status so the job seeker goes into massive debt obtaining a degree in order to be considered for the high-paying position they desire. Had the employer been seeking out specific experience/skills/traits, the job seeker could start with an unpaid internship to get in and prove themselves and then work their way up. While many job-seekers might be willing to do this, it doesn't always work because the "lazy" employer sets standards for certain levels within the organization, requiring a bachelor's degree to reach any level of management for instance...even though the degree actually does very little in determining someones qualifications for doing the job.Feb 12 2013: A degree is just a certification that you've been exposed to an specific area of knowledge. Only when you go out and apply that knowledge and succeed is when you know that you actually learned it.
If you are not lazy and you are self motivated you can acquire and infinite amount of knowledge through the net (not degree needed). You can go as far as you want using open-ware sources from MIT, Oxford-UK, Tokio-TECH and many others (http://www.ocwconsortium.org).
Colleges are good because they put you in a room with a group of people (student) you can interact with a monitor (teacher/professor) and that dynamic is very important in the "real world". But as long as you can prove what you know, put in practice what you learned and succeed - you should be fine. By that time you might be the one looking to hire others collaborators.
The next generations have beautiful and interesting challenges in terms of education. The net changed the rules of the game and I love that. :)
Max Gutapfel
Feb 12 2013: Whats a degree wirth to whom? Im about to step into my University because im Interested and I want to learn, for me its worth nothing i wouldnt go out and work for the sake of money right now because theres too much to explore too much i long for knowing. Learnig however is invaluable and as said degree marks the end of a "learning phase" it gets its worth because once i have it it means ive understood and gained some knowledge.
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The degree alone however remains worthless for me.
For someone whos out for the money well he can make that money without a degree i guess, a degree may help him to get into a certain position (regardless off how much learned for that degree ... he mightve aswell received it as a christmas present so to say).
Id argue the worth of a degree is based on ones goals. For me the degree itself is worthless the knowledge is invaluable. For someone else though the knowledge may be worthless (or he may not be interested in it, thus giving it no value for said person) however the degree may be invaluable as it opens up some doors.
-I know i used a diffrent interpretation of the question as the majority but i like to write what first comes to my mind :o)
Feb 13 2013: What are you going to be studying Max?
Feb 13 2013: Well science it is, decided on physics. In case i dont learn enough / my brain is insufficient itll be chemistry or economics (big picture economics ;o) dont know how to explain it as i havent heard an equivalent term in english, in germany we distinguish between "bwl" which focuses on marketing and making a huge profit and "vwl" which focuses on how diffrent economies interact with eachother e.g. terms of trade, taxes, state spending and so on ... itd be the second one for me).
So yeah i dont think you can weight up a degree with a degree :D Engiineering, marketing ect. may give you a degree but their really focused around the requirements of an economy thus they will attract a huge amount of people who are out for money / living a nice average life with family, going to work coming home having some nice food some freetime and no financial problems to worry about. - for those indeed the value of a degree can be expressed in terms of income.
For me it cant be expressed in this way, im happy as long as i learn and understand somethign new (food and a warm home would be appreciated though as they make it a lot easier).
i suspect the author of this thread was out for the financial question, thats why i stated there are diffrent interpretations.Feb 14 2013: Max, I think you have raised the most important point. It is not the degree per se but the learning that degree will represent that matters. You have to know how to take advantage of what college offers. Many who find it useless just never figured out how to take advantage of the opportunities there to develop their critical and creative faculties.
In the United States, the subject you call bwl is often called Business Administration. The second subject you describe is part of Economics.Feb 8 2013: Traditionally, college degrees have cultivated skills that become obsolete in a short span of time, as per the industry standards in todays dynamic and innovative workspace.
I would like to stress on the wide gap between the academic and industrial operating models. The existence of this question in the society itself is evident of the fact that academia and industry are looking in different direction as of now.
There is an increasing need to make any kind of education more practical and application oriented; Only then a person with a good university degree would be an obvious choice for an employer seeking a combination of education and real life skills.
As for this question specifically, the choice is at the discretion of the organization of whether to prioritize experience over college degrees or vice versa because at the end of the day what matters is "productivity" of the employee.
However, a college degree will always allow you to learn far more importat values than some specific industry skill sets. So, I would personally recruit someone who has a good college degree and demonstrates the ability to learn and apply thier knowledge over someone with no college degree and specific skill sets.
Not to forget, there are always some cases where you come across individuals who for some reason could not go to college but can become assets for the organization. So its always an arbitrary decision on the part of the employer.Feb 8 2013: This is what I also think about a lot lately. I am an actuarial science student, and I am only one term away from graduation.
To become a qualified actuary, we need to take exams from well recognized institutions such as SOA ( Society of Actuaries). I've been taking these exams since I was a freshman and I did a lot of self-studying. After having passed several exams, the classes at university get really boring and meaningless to me since I have read and took exams on related topics already. Then a question popped into my mind: If I can take these exams by myself, why do I have to study here? I've realized that going to college wouldn't mean anything if we have to study something that we can learn by ourselves.
I think this is why college degrees become less important. In some fields, technical knowledge and simplified theories are much easier to learn than applying them in real life. The ability to work efficiently, communicate with others, and think critically become much more important in the business world. Eventually, what the employers are looking for is a potential employee who they presume will be able to work well in their companies, not a first-class honor student who don't know how to do anything at all.
Feb 8 2013: I totally agree! So how would you propose a system where education aligns better with what the student wants and what the employer wants?
Feb 9 2013: I think the university should give more credit on working experiences and internship. May be one term for an internship etc. Also, they should invite the professionals in the areas to come and share their experiences so that students will understand what it's like in actual working environment.Feb 8 2013: I hope it's worth all of this money.Feb 8 2013: I am about to graduate college and receive a 4 year BA degree. I have learned things I would have hated to learn but now love, and doors have opened in many unexpected places. My degree will inspire me to move forward and to be an active learner.
I believe learning skills is more accessible than learning undergraduate and graduate studies even with places such as MIT's open courses and Khanacademy. The people I am surrounded by are, inspiring and have been so important in the learning process.
Feb 8 2013: I love the phrase "active learner". That's absolutely what college and education is supposed to be in general. Not just filling a bucket, but lighting a fire with stuff in the bucket...and then filling the bucket with more stuff to keep the fire going. Eventually the fire creates stuff to help fill the bucket...Feb 5 2013: As for the first question, I believe I would hire someone with a college degree. Experience can be gained with time, esp. if they got the capacity to learn. But would keep in mind that not every degree really reflects the potential an employee might have. So personal assessment of the employee is essential.
And I would teach myself if I am passionate and dedicated enough and I have a faith in my self regulating and leading skills. If what I love is not given in colleges, then I will do it on my own. But if it is found and I am unable to afford it or join it then I will just work harder to prove that I do deserve to get into school.
School does not teach me much more than what I can learn on my own, but it gives me the accreditation I need to cope with the society around me. Humans need things they can sense, like a degree. I will not expect employers to have faith and beliefs in a stranger, me.
School is just an aid tool. In the end, a dedicated scholar depends a lot on their selves and their self regulating skills to achieve the degree they want. So there is basically no much difference between a free scholar and a college student, both work hard. But we are only humans, not Gods to see beyond the sensible evidences.
The question here though, is it fair? Not everyone can get into school even though they do absolutely deserve to be there. And they might be even more qualified than a college graduate. But our world is not truly meritocratic, despite the efforts being exerted by many organizations and individuals. But if someone is capable of getting qualified by an institution, like a university, I think they need to cope with the society they live in.Feb 5 2013: I believe learning at an advanced level is itself a skill. We all have a certain predisposition for this trait but in the end it is our own will that ultimately gauges our capacity for life long learning. Just as our natural physical ability is always well outpaced by the abilities we attain through concerted effort so goes the powers of the human mind. What we should be asking ourselves when we engage in higher learning is what we intend to achieve. At 33 I'm a bit older than most of my fellow students and I have literally been around the world a few times. I took on this challenge with a very different perspective than most.
Would I hire someone based on their experience over someone based on their education? I suppose it would depend on the subject matter and what that history could tell me about a person. Do they possess a dynamic intellect that has discovered how to learn? Do they know how to digest new information and produce derivative ideas? Is this person a lifelong learner or were they just sprinting?
This is where I draw the line. For me the degree is meaningless without a passion for knowledge and experience is easily accidental, and usually is. The things a person spends their time to understand says a lot about them. If you are having trouble seeing the value of your degree then I suggest you set your goals a lot higher (for some people I will admit that was a bit unfair but for many it certainly was not).
As for the online trend, we have an AWESOME start but it is far from a finished product.
I can see at least one glaring issue with the standard school system and it is the standards. Case in point....
We are redesigning our education systems from the inside out. It will probably get worse before it gets better but it will get better. In the meantime be realistic about your expectations and keep your indirect costs low.
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As an employer: Would you rather hire someone with your required skill sets/a competitive portfolio and no college degree, or someone with a degree and good grades but little experience? (everything else held equal)
It depends very much on the job I'm hiring for and the expectations from that employee. There is no single right or wrong answer. Some jobs simply require a degree to ensure regulatory compliance or suitable credentials. Some don't. Of those that don't require a degree, experience would outweigh academic achievement but unless you're a stellar performer you will often find the lack of a degree to be a hindrance in the long term. (Not always but it will come up on occasion unfortunately and may cause you to miss out on some opportunities)
As a high school graduate: Would you be willing to self-teach yourself to the point where you had marketable skills and an impressive self-made portfolio while risking not having a degree?
If you have an impressive self made portfolio then why ask the question? The answer in this particular case yes. If you didn't have an impressive portfolio then you wasted your time.
The value of a degree must be viewed in the context of what you want for yourself and that always changes as you grow older. I would advise that if you do get a degree you probably won't regret it no matter what life brings. If you don't get one you may regret it.Feb 4 2013: The price of the paper it was printed on and the ink.
Noel Rojo
Feb 3 2013: What's a degree worth? To many, their lives as indentured slaves.
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Kareem Fahim
Feb 2 2013: Well, depends... but as a student I can assure you degrees are worth less each year due to current job market status. I know of a guy who started university at the same time as me (currently I'm final year student of 4th year degree), he left it after 1st semester and started his business.
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After these years he has more experience and a stable business. I still have to struggle to find a decent job so he is miles ahead.
So experience and entrepreneurship beat university degrees
Jazz Sutto
Feb 2 2013: I would rather hire someone with 4 years of experience than a 4 year degree. However, if they were good at what they did I would pay for night classes for them. Education is great for expanding knowledge, but knowing something never beats experience doing something right.Feb 13 2013: I attended college for the last 3 years of my life and currently I am taking time off. While in college I did more than most. I was a collegiate runner, president of two business clubs that managed 150 plus people with over 11 projects dealing with real community issues and global problems like blindness and lack of clean water. I learned that one can achieve anything if the right conditions present it's self all you have to do is recognize it and grasp the opportunity.
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For me college classes were only a commitment to a piece of paper that will make my family happy. I wasn't doing for me, I was just checking in and checking out everyday to reach a goal. After Freshman year I realized there is more to life than corporate accounting and logic class. There is a bubble created in a crucial time of discovery that you can easily get trapped in.
When you buy into college your buying into a business that is growing at an unsustainable rate, over 10% last I looked. Like all bubbles, it will pop. When I saw Rhode Island College tuition price jump from $40,000 a year to $54,0000 in one year I was disgusted with the system of over valuation of a product that people can't prove is working. You only learn with experience and after starting two businesses in a year Eco Pedicab and Velocity Crepes, I say go to college to learn a trade but take a lower financial risk and fight for a cause or research a problem and solve it! I higher only based on experience and talent not a piece of paper.
Inovation comes from experimenting with ideas. College shuts you off from the world and keeps you there. Sorry I bought into a lie bigger than the housing bubble. Companies are getting plenty of free labor out of it though...Feb 12 2013: As an employer I would be willing to hire someone with the correct skills and experience regardless of whether or not they had a degree. As long as they can prove that they can perform the duties required for the job, I would be willing to hire them. However, I think that if you wish to get into a certain industry without getting a college degree first, you have to start at a young age and build your portfolio.
As someone who is currently attending college, I spend my spare time teaching myself useful skills. I believe that it's something that people are going to have to do from now on. Just having a degree really doesn't necessarily mean that you will get a job. Networking is probably the most valuable tool in getting a job. If you have the right skills and you know the right people, you are very likely to get a job.Feb 11 2013: Your question does make someone really think about how much a degree is worth. I think from an employer's perspective they would ideally like to see someone with a college degree and experience within that field. Since that is very rare for a student just out of college, I could see how some employers would look for students with degrees because it shows they were able to accomplish something they put their mind to. On the other hand, experience within that field can be invaluable for an employer.
As a high school graduate I always knew that I wanted and needed to go to college. Everyone always told me that a college degree can open a lot more doors for you than someone without. Some people are not as fortunate to have the opportunity to go to college and they need to decide if their time is better spent in the work field or going to college. When I graduated from high school I knew I did not have the necessary skills to go straight into working and building a career. I needed the knowledge I gained from going to College to further my skills and make me a valuable employee. I don't think it is often that a student comes straight out of high school with the strength or ability to teach themselves marketable skills. It takes a strong individual to push themselves to become a career driven person.Feb 11 2013: I would have to say that a college degree means more than just a degree. For those who get a degree shows that they have dedicated four years of their life to education themselves. Something that takes a lot of work and money investing in their future. The real world experience should come after someone goes to college. If i was an employer and had a choice to hire either;
A. College graduate with the right degree program
B. High School graduate who has job experience
I would have to chose A. For several reasons. I know that A has drive, commitment, and is knowledgeable in how to get work done. They may not be able to do the job right off the bat but would be highly motivated to learn how to do the job and be able to perform at higher levels than the under educated person B.
Saying that a person is willing to set aside time in their life to out perform someone that has four years of college to me would say that person is highly talented and wouldn't waste time but would probably enroll in college.Feb 10 2013: The paper is printed onFeb 10 2013: Hi Joshua, I really like this question as I have wrestled with it for years. When I was growing up my grandfather and father were having a debate similar to this. They said, "If you were to take the amount of money a person spends on obtaining a college degree, give it to them in cash, and let them run their own business with a mentor, would it be a greater advantage than getting the degree itself". The thought was with the right menor(s) in place, you can have a distinct advantage over everyone else you compete with when you have the same degree and no experience. This being said, I believe it depends on the field you want to go into and the support you have around you.
I am a bit older and I can tell you it was a lot easier to get a job in the past without a degree if you had a good network. When applying for jobs on line now, many times the potential hiring manager will not even see your resume if you do not have a degree. You just fall into space. This is where having a strong network of self branding and social media can help to overcome the degree. I rarely get a job that I want from blindly applying on line. I work int IT sales and can tell you many of my peers typically do not either. Our work is all about who you know. Some of us have degrees and some do not, but I have to question is it worth it.
At the end of the day, it can't hurt you to have a degree. A person learns a lot when going to school and having the degrees shows you have the tenacity and dedication to finish your work all the way through. I do believe, with the way school is changing and technology is advancing, we will see stronger priorities within certain fields versus the well rounded educational systems we see today.Feb 9 2013: As an employer there is a much more complex analysis that can take place. Personally I know that most college graduates have enough motivation and ambition in which to have completed what is hopefully four rigorous years of schooling. As a result, we can place faith that they will carry over those character traits to the workplace. On the other hand we are faced with the compromising notion that they are not a blank slate, and therefore inhabit a sense of understanding in real world situations which may be unfounded. Personally I believe that a blank slate is essential in building an employee from the ground up to be a true and reliable asset. Therefore, I would sooner hire someone with the skills and competitive portfolio over those with a degree.
As a high school graduate, I would be willing to self-teach myself. However, I believe that all people should experience college education to a degree, if only for a semester. I believe that there is a great deal of transition into the next level of education that transforms an individual's level of maturity that is essential. Also, there are many skills to be obtained in a strictly academic setting, such as critical thinking skills, study habits, time management and many others.
Feb 9 2013: I agree with everything you've said, I think that's a very clear minded view of education and more goal-oriented. Even though I normally like the idea of throwing out colleges all together, I liked the idea of having at least a semester of it for the fact that it helps students mature.
One question, you said that colleges help kids acquire critical thinking skills. Could you elaborate on how it helps with that? I personally feel like my education is hampering my critical thinking skills and that students might be able to acquire critical thinking through some other means.
Feb 10 2013: Ultimately most higher division math (i.e calculus, stats) and science (i.e physics, mechanical engineering) tap into critical thinking skills. The information being presented is generally not applicable in the sense that students enrolled will not be physicists or mathematicians. These complex problems presented in these classes are meant to create new ways of analysis and thinking systems. personally I believe that is where I have derived a much more refined form of critical thinking and as a result I can postulate much more complete and constructive forms of thought. Of course, this is simply an opinion and I have no research in which to back my input on this.
Feb 14 2013: I agree!Feb 8 2013: I'm in a very conflicting field. I work in theatre, but my theatre is funded and run through a corporation. Artistically and personally, I WANT experience and skill over anything. Professionally, we're pushed to value degrees. I will concede that a college degree USE TO be associated with discipline, the ability to learn and complex levels, etc. It USE TO symbolize someone who excelled through high school and continued to learn advanced concepts to get them ready for the "real world". The current high school educational system is a mess and it has effected the college degree, making it equal to the high school diploma....and I wouldn't be able hire anybody without a high school diploma.
Bring on the EDUCATIONAL REVOLUTION!!!
Feb 8 2013: Oh Ya!Feb 4 2013: I'd prefer hire someone with my required skill sets,a competitive portfolio and no college degree, of course. And as a HS graduate, our point must to get te best teaching (or self teaching) and having a degree. Rules are normally designed and agreed to be respected. And for the most of the people, a degree is something like a first proof of what you'll show after.Feb 4 2013: I think the poor to non-existent coordination between undergraduate programs in colleges / universities and employers is notoriously useless. Even worthless (?) Kids really need to get smart about researching job prospects in their chosen field, themselves. It's shocking that after upwards of $50,000 in debt, there are no real guarantees of employment.
At least when you buy a car for $10,000, you can expect it to take you from point A to point B!!
DIY, free webcasts, online 101 courses, technical colleges, cheaper 101courses in local colleges, local night schools with population re-training mandates etc. that are affiliated with co-op programs or apprenticeships--that's where to go. Stop paying top dollar for a commodity. Beware of unis with large marketing budgets, toad-like drafty buildings that are costly to maintain, sprawling campuses, expensive new constructions and too many tenured profs--it all goes into the tuition.
And there should be some payment scheme like, tuition is paid 50% and unless the university helps find the students a job in their field within 100km of the town, the other 50% is not paid. OR employers across the board need to all agree to stop putting a premium on parchment.Feb 4 2013: The process of devaluing a degree has been developing for a long time. I am retired now, but even when I was in university, the students in the standard degree program were preferred over those in the honors degree program.
Later in business when I had to hire staff I found that those from specific technical colleges were better prepared over university graduates.
I have a degree in Geology but I have worked all my life in the computer consulting industry and for some of the largest computer companies in the world. They did not consider my lack of appropriate degree to be a hindrance at the time.
I since have acquired a masters in the field but I did so for the sheer enjoyment of the process (I graduated the same year that I retired).
We certainly seem to be at a transition point when considering the value of an advanced education and not all disciplines will move away from the desire to see a degree at the same rate.
For computer tech for example, I would avoid university training, move to specific college programs and naturally be prepared to spend a significant portion of your life keeping up with the changes in technology.Feb 4 2013: It seems like people generally agree that while degrees have become important, true skill sets and experiences are inherently more important.
Is there a way to accredit someone based on their skills, instead of what hoops they've jumped through?
Could we reach an era where people, and employers, are more focused on trade skills and throw out the 'general ed' stuff which a lot of students disregard anyways?Feb 3 2013: A degree is considered the entry fee to apply to the attractively renowned businesses - without it you're not even considered - especially when too many potential employers are using 3rd party hiring firms that filter using keywords in resume submissions. The *real* question is: "Is the cost of a degree at, let's say, Harvard worth it over the returns possible from a local State college degree?". I suggest that it is if you take the time to rub shoulders with the already recognized families who attend/support the elite school. Thoughts?
Feb 4 2013: I don't think, realistically speaking, that the Harvard undergrad is going to rub shoulders with elite families in the way you envision or that such a relationship is the key to why employers or graduate schools often look particularly closely at graduates of these schools. I think it has to do more with the rigor of the program in numerous fields of study and exposure to the sorts of intellects one finds there. That is, I think, the truth of it.
Harvard and Princeton are also extremely generous with financial aid to top students.
The smaller size of these schools allows more individual attention, typically, than at many state schools, which are often extremely large and impersonal. There are many small liberal arts schools that offer this same advantage, as well as some smaller state schools, like William and Mary, if you live in Virginia.
If you are a high school student, I hope you have that choice to make.
Feb 4 2013: Sorry - Harvard was just an example of where you make connections. Pick your school. It's not that any old employers may/may not be impressed with name-your-school - it's the expectation that the *dads and uncles* of fellow students can get you the jobs.
All I know is that my school didn't have any movers and shakers and needless to say that can hinder any ladder climbing (when you can't get on the first rung). Just ask most of the kids out there today with crushing college loans and no job prospects.
Feb 4 2013: I don't know how much dads and uncles are actually getting jobs for their kids' and nephews' friends or whether that is any different if you go to UMichigan than if you go to Yale.
Right now the job market is just very competitive. It is unquestionably a hard time to be looking. But that does not necessarily mean that when someone else gets a job it was probably because the person had some unfair edge.Feb 3 2013: Can anyone really answer that question for YOU? For some, it's important. For others, it's a hindrance.Feb 3 2013: I think we need to Look at how both work and education are changing,
In the past you got a degree which was collection of classes that is aggreated to a score (GPA) and an employer can take that score into account along with the university attended that indicates both the network of that candiate and the quality of the GPA, (some universities give A's easier than others.) Then you starting working and recording success/failure was not as easy from that point on. I believe the CV of the future is going to look more like web-analytics tracking skills, education, online courses, offline courses, networks and lots more. I think work will equally track using web-analytics and be very similar.
Professions over the last 150 years have been organised by a triangle of hierarchy, the CEO at the top, the other directors who manage and the people down below who do the day-to-day tasks. Airbnb.com is a great example at looking at a different organisational system, airbnb is a circle that allows someone to build their reputation in that circle. If we look at the same system applied to lawyers, rocketlawyer.com allows people find a lawyer using reputation. These networks let you find individuals not organisations and the extra reports, management, marketing and everything else the organisation gave to the individual hard-working lawyer, the platform can not only provide, it can be better. The obvious step is see management consulting go this way where you no longer work for McKinsey or Bain, but have an account on consultant.com with a high reputation.
For a young high school student, I would probably recommend to go to college as the system today and system above will take time to switch. Nevertheless for myself, I have a degree, but have done the latter thereafter instead of a postgrad. I have taken classes and skills that accumulate into what I want to be, not taking them to get a piece a paper.Feb 3 2013: Of course the I choose the skills over the degrees! Degrees mean nothing without work, They are just pieces of paper that maybe represent someone. They can be fake, untrue or outdated. But actual skill and works are very reliable.
and also, Degree doesn't tells you that someone in good at his job or not, just at best tells you that he knows what to do, But we all know lots of people that have information about something but they're not as good as they can be on that job.
for example, someone that doing a job for 5 years without any degree is already a successful and acceptable choice but someone with just a degree is a very risky choice.Feb 3 2013: The expereince and lessons learned during the process of getting a Degree benefits the mind set, thinking process and character which helps develop an educated mind and personality that is required to succeed and progress.
There are many who get a degree and may learn the subject but yet do not conduct themselves as an educated person. ie. Do not have a well developed and mature understanding and demeanor.
And every firm looks for typical candidate that fits the specific culture and required behaviour pattern. ie. some may need a degree holder but require the candidate to do as they are told and not to use thier education and own initiative. Some companies seek the educated mind from the degree holder.
So, it depends on the individuals aptidue and atitude towards learning, attaining a degree and developing skill sets, and it depends on the hiring company and what kind of candidate they are seeking. A college or University Degree is lot more than just getting a certificate.Feb 3 2013: If you are a member of the groups that created this socio/economic caste system then you are sworn to the doctrine of higher education, you must not turn your back on your predecessors, your alumni, or the system these inner societies have created, it all serves their purpose of separating the chaff from the grain. You must hire graduates with diplomas and degrees in order to keep the money on the right side of the tracks. No matter how stupid, you hire the one who paid for his education, that is how this agreement works.
I apologize if my opinion has offended any of the educators here. Never would I say something to hurt anyone. but I will never hide the truth or my humble opinion, either.
I am always open to discuss and defend any point I raise.
Does anyone honestly believe the best, and most qualified is hired? Look at the revolving doors in the leadership of every major company in the united states and the leaders in government. Do you think they are all running from Wall street to Pennsylvania avenue, etc., etc. and then back and forth again because they are the brightest and most able and this is best for this country? Please someone tell me they believe that. And is it not just as peculiar that they all share alumni of about the top thirty colleges in the world. Tell me that because the families have money that means they are the smartest and most capable. Most of those families are so out of touch with reality and common sense that they do believe that!
This past election had brains spilling off the platform didn't it? What a shame united states, what a shame! I dare any one to defend the candidates as we sat in utter disbelief and horror! The best and brightest....right!!!!!!!!
okay, everybody, your right, I am a little upset, not so much because of the the leaders and candidates, most come from a thieving heritage to begin with, I expect anything sinister and underhanded from them. I am angry at the population for being quiet about itFeb 3 2013: it only has value if it was a positive experience. An education is an end in itself. Next I will read the Consolation of Philosophy. That's all the Roman author had when executed by his German prince.
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Feb 2 2013: That depends on a lot of factors. First, I want to interview you. I want to be assured that you speak excellent business English. That means not only able to articulate ideas well, but MUST have good grammar and know how to pronounce normal words properly. MUST have self-confidence. A degree doesn't promise these things, though it improves the odds of getting past this prerequisite. (I am OK with a foreign accent, as long as I do not have to struggle to understand you. I want to hear your on the phone before I agree to an interview.)
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Then I want to know if you have a skill set that matches the job opening. I don't want to take the time to teach you absolute basics, so if you have done the homework and you know your stuff, and can convince me that you are adept at the basics without a degree, I will give you preferential treatment. I admire self-motivated people. That's the kind of employee I have always preferred. Just be sure that your cover letter is WELL written using a standard business letter format. (I keep hearing about applications filled out using text shortcuts like U R instead of you are.) Experience is preferred, but entrepreneurial experience can quickly put you on the top of the pile.
This being said, I do not speak for employers. I speak for ME (as a former employer - now retired). When I worked in a large corporate setting, I was required to hire people with degrees. That's how "I" learned that they don't mean that much to me.
Difficult question, you are asking. Too bad there is no one-size-fits-all answer.
Of course, if you want to be a physicist or chemist, or other degree-dependent profession, that's an entirely different answer.Feb 2 2013: Considering the cost of education I would prefer to augment those expenses than to invest in someone who couldn't finish what they started.Feb 2 2013: Are you asking specifically for the market value, then? Here is an article from six months ago summarizing the findings of two recent studies. Their answer is definitely yes, degrees matter, but it depends what and where you study: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/20/college-costs-new-research-weighs-value-of-college-education_n_1813337.html
I haven't ever been in a position to hire someone to do rote work. I have hired young, really smart, playful people without degrees but who I am convinced are eager learners and who learn quickly and well. And I need them to be flexible, so that when I make changes on the fly, they can still catch the ball. doing well in educational settings that are challenging and demand independent initiative is one measure I would recognize.
Experience isn't necessarily important, as experience doing something similar can as well be a hindrance if I want someone to work in an innovative way.


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2011-12: Competed primarily in the long jump during both the indoor and outdoor seasons...indoors, posted a personal best mark at the UNC Invitational, jumping 18-0.5 (5.49) to finish in fifth place...outdoors, competed in only the Raleigh Relays where she took sixth with a leap of 16-9.75 (5.12).
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Prior to Duke: Four-year letterwinner at Phoenixville...PAC-10 record holder in the 200m and long jump...named Mercury Newspaper Female Athlete of the Year...long jump finalist at the Junior Olympic meet...two-time all-state selection in the long jump...12-time gold medalist in the PAC-10...earned first team all-conference distinction...finished 10th in the long jump at the Nike Nationals...also played soccer and softball...member of the National Honor Society.
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Dr. de Lange's lab studies telomeres, protective elements at the ends of our chromosomes that are critical for the stability and maintenance of the genetic information. Deficiency in telomere function can cause genomic alterations in cancer, and the gradual loss of telomeres contributes to aging of human cells.
Dr. de Lange's lab focuses on mammalian telomeres, which are made up of long arrays of double-stranded TTAGGG repeats that end in a single-stranded 3' overhang. These telomeric repeats wither away in a shortening process that is associated with cell proliferation. Telomerase can counteract this attrition and stabilizes telomeres by adding back telomeric repeats. However, telomerase is absent from most human somatic cells, and, as a result, cells eventually die due to depletion of their telomere reserve. Cancer cells, on the other hand, usually reactivate telomerase, thereby achieving unlimited proliferative potential. The goal of Dr. de Lange's research is to understand how telomeres protect chromosome ends, and what happens when telomere function is lost during the early stages of tumorigenesis before telomerase is activated.
The de Lange lab identified a six-subunit protein complex, which they named shelterin, that specifically binds to telomeres. Using Cre-mediated conditional deletion in mouse embryo fibroblasts, Dr. de Lange and her colleagues determined the fate of telomeres lacking one or more of the six shelterin subunits. This work showed that cells lacking shelterin perceive their natural chromosome ends as sites of DNA damage.
Six distinct DNA damage response pathways are repressed by shelterin. Two DNA damage signaling pathways, initiated by the ATM and ATR checkpoint kinases, inappropriately respond to chromosome ends that lack shelterin. In addition, shelterin represses three DNA double-strand break repair pathways at telomeres, two types of nonhomologous end joining and homology-directed repair, which have detrimental outcomes at telomeres. Finally, shelterin protects telomeres against a sixth threat: the inappropriate resection of the telomeric DNA by nucleases.
Dr. de Lange's group is now working to determine the mechanism by which each shelterin protein inhibits its designated pathway, and how loss of telomere protection contributes to genome instability in human cancer. A major mechanistic insight arose from the identification of the t-loop structure of telomeres in which the single-stranded overhang is inserted in the double-stranded repeat array of the telomere, thereby hiding the telomere end from the DNA damage response. Recent data showed that the TRF2 component of shelterin is required to establish and/or maintain this structure. Since TRF2 is responsible for the repression of the ATM kinase pathway and non-homologous end joining, it is likely that the t-loop structure is critical to prevent these two pathways from acting inappropriately on chromosome ends.
Dr. de Lange earned her Ph.D. in biochemistry from the University of Amsterdam and the Netherlands Cancer Institute in 1985. From 1985 to 1990 she was a postdoctoral fellow in the laboratory of Nobel laureate Harold Varmus at the University of California, San Francisco, where she was one of the first to isolate the telomeres of human chromosomes. She came to Rockefeller in 1990 as assistant professor and was promoted to associate professor in 1994 and professor in 1997. She was named the Leon Hess Professor in 1999 and is an American Cancer Society Research Professor. She is also the director of the university's Anderson Center for Cancer Research.
Among other awards, Dr. de Lange is the recipient of the 2014 Canada Gairdner International Award, the 2013 Breakthrough Prize in Life Sciences, the 2012 Dr H.P. Heineken Prize for Biochemistry and Biophysics, the 2012 Vanderbilt Prize in Biomedical Sciences, the 2011 Vilcek Prize in Biomedical Science, the 2010 American Association for Cancer Research Clowes Memorial Award, the 2008 Massachusetts General Hospital Cancer Center Prize, the 2005 National Institutes of Health Director's Pioneer Award, and the first Paul Marks Prize for Cancer Research, in 2001. She is an elected member of the Royal Dutch Academy of Sciences, the European Molecular Biology Organization, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences and a foreign associate of the National Academy of Sciences.
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I believe that the trans cover on my Honda CR 250 is made of a cast aluminum (correct me if i am wrong) and I am wondering if i can tig a small crack that has developed.
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Aluminum Weldability -CR 250 Trans cover5 welding Rigs
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You Betcha!
Normally it must be apart and clean to do it.
At the very least it must be empty and vented. It can be horribly dificult to get to seal because of all the junk in the metal. Also the heat being drawn into the assembly and expansion/contraction can make it 10 times more difficult.
I make everyone disassemble and bring to me.
I only want to repair what I KNOW I can do and stand behind. I don't charge for failure.
Once you get it apart you can make it super clean and bevel out the crack and weld it up nice.
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When welding aluminum with TIG, don't let tungsten stick out of the cup too much. Try no more than the diameter of the tungsen. And use atleast 1sec of post flow for every 10amps. So you will not contaminate the tunsten. I use these procedures and works for me every time. And ofcourse keep workpiece and weldingrods clean. Right before welding wipe the rod clean with acetone and clean the piece with stainless steel wirebrush.
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Right on, good news. I appreciate your responses because today I am taking the bike apart. Excellent advice on thoroughly cleaning the cover after disassembly and before prepping bevel. Also thank you for the words of wisdom with regards to electrode stickout, post flow minimum and cleaning of filler metal with acetone. I will post pictures of the crack and the weld. Thanks.5 welding Rigs
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Mike Dogg, You might want to search welding dirty aluminum.
The dirt on the welding rod is nothing in comparison to the dirty oil soaked aluminum.
I never clean my alum. welding rod, I never let it get dirty.
Magnesium is the only rod I clean because it oxidizes in my sealed rod holders.
I dont recommend vee grooving thin covers beforehand, it will naturaly vee groove as your cleaning the black sut out of the crack when trying to pull the contamination out of the aluminum.
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Most of the Honda motorcycle "aluminum" castings I have worked with seem to have an unusually high magnesium content. Whatever exact alloy Honda's using, it doesn't weld like the A356 that most automotive stuff is cast from. Oil contamination just adds one more problem variable. Call me a chicken, but I'd stop-drill the crack, epoxy over the thing and call it done. It isn't structural so a 100% strength repair isn't necessary.2007 Miller Dynasty 200 DX
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If you only knew how much of that CRAP I have removed by folks with good intentions only to find they have simply making the job they should have done in the first place much more dificult.
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Mr. 57,
Did you send your parts out to a metalurgist to find out that they have a high magnesium content.
You may also want to research ( Welding dirty aluminum )
Fushion king is right, I also get alot of people trying to save money with JB Weld and by the time it gets to me the repair cost is double because 1/2 my time is spent cleaning the JB weld out of the crevice.
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I'm with MR.57. JB weld it. I've HAD to do it to quite a few of them over the years. I've tried to weld a few of them with poor results due to contamination and warpage. Once they warp you'll never get them flat enough to seal. I built a jig for one, 1/2" steel plate that allowed me to bolt down and weld and sit till it cooled. Worked great. It was for my own bike. The only problem is it wasn't any better than the JB fix and I had quite a bit of time invested. The other option is just to buy a new one or find one in a junk yard. Tons of CR 250s out there and chances are you'll have to anyway once you start welding on it.
I don't think I've owned a bike, or my family that dosen't have a little JB some where. There's places for JB and places where welding is a better solution.
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Amber has made huge strides since coming home! When we first adopted her, she was scared of pretty much everything and everyone. Now she is incredibly friendly, actively plays with all kinds of other dogs and is not jumpy at all. She is also quite clever and is learning tricks and obedience lessons quickly. We are getting her settled and confident in her new life.
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NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Garth Brooks will spend Sunday looking back when he's inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame, touching on some of the greatest moments of the most electric career in country history.
"It's so exciting," Brooks said. "I'm trying to be somewhat professional or somewhat have manners or something, but I'm probably going to be Garth and fall apart."
Unlike most honorees, whose best performances are usually behind them at this point, there's a chance the semi-retired superstar could continue a career that helped country music evolve from a regional sound to an international phenomenon.


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We are approaching The Great Divide in the U.S. We are steadily marching toward a time of a dialogical quagmire – a time when the heated, yet rational debates of our founding Fathers are relegated to historical hooey because we see them as naïve and clearly uncommitted because they weren't willing to besmirch their opponent to the point of devastation.
We are gazing into a gaping chasm of malcontent when the either/or diatribe of "you are either with us or you are against us" will not only define the prevailing zeitgeist of our nation but will divide us to such a degree that we will reach impasses of the likes few have ever imagined. It has the potential to put a strangle hold on an already far too ineffectual congress; the results of which will be to deepen the recession, increase the gap between the haves and have nots, and continue to lessen the influence of the United States throughout the world. That doesn't even begin to touch on other areas that will be impacted such as education, scientific advancement and civil rights (and many, many others).
Those who fan the flames of division all too frequently claim to do it from a Christian perspective. People who promote hate and division are not practicing the core value of Christianity – love. It is time for those of us who take the teachings of Jesus seriously to stand up, to be a light on the hill of rationality, tolerance and unity. We must take back the prevailing Christian dialog of this nation. We must wrestle it away from those who choose to use it to attain power and money. We must claim our voice as Christians and say, "No, I do not hate my enemy – I love them. I do not hate you – I love you. I refuse to be divided from any of those created in God's image simply because they disagree with me, attack me, or call me names."
It is time to replace the drive to division with a call to love. With love, we do not have to agree, but we do have to be civil. We do have to be respectful. We do have to practice tolerance. We can stand divided, but it will take a deeper understanding of what it means to love your neighbor to do it.


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'SNL' Brings Prince for Rollicking Four-Song Jam, Introduces Taylor Swift 'Swiftamine' Drug: Watch
The rocker performed a medley of tunes from his pair of new albums, ARTOFFICIALAGE and PLECTRUMELECTRUM, which came out last September, showing off new material while exhibiting the form and stage presence that made him a star from the start.
Prince Coming to 'Saturday Night Live' as Musical Guest
To promote his pair of new albums, Prince will be taking the Saturday Night Live stage.
Prince Brings Kendrick Lamar to the Stage at Paisley Park Listening Party: Watch
Prince kept his distance from the fans, appearing only to play his music, which left many fans on Twitter disappointed. But being the once elusive symbol that he is, he surprised fans by calling out Kendrick Lamar to perform with him.
Prince Announces Album Release Livestream Party
The event kicks off at 10:30 p.m. ET on the Live Nation Channel on Yahoo.
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After teasing "Clouds" when his bandmates announced his new two albums on Good Morning America, Prince has followed it up with "Funknroll."
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While Prince fans eagerly await the release of two new albums on Sept. 30, the singer has shared two new songs: "U Know" and "Whitecaps."
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They feature some songs that we've heard in recent years.
Weird Al's 'Mandatory' Interview: 'Word Crimes,' the 'Tacky' Video & Prince, Who Still Won't Say Yes to a Parody
The longtime parody artist talks his latest targets — and how Prince still won't give him permission.
Prince Reveals Snippet of New Track 'This Could Be Us,' Inspired By a Prince Meme
Yesterday, Prince tweeted out a link to a 36-second snippet of the song, "This Could Be Us," which was inspired by a meme of him from Purple Rain where he's seen riding on a motorcycle with Apollonia.
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|Reading, Mass.
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|Pingree School
As a sophomore:
Earned All-NEC recognition for the second straight year in singles, taking First Team honors at No. 4 following a late-season return to the line-up ... Won seven of 10 singles matches completed, including victories in each of the Bobcats' NEC Tournament victories ... Avenged his only loss to an NEC opponent, FDU's Yuri Gricheno in three sets on March 31, defeating Gricheno easily in straight sets, 6-0, 6-2, in the NEC Semifinals on April 17 ... Drew the Bobcats even at 3-3 with Sacred Heart in the NEC Tournament Championship, defeating Nick Mazzarese, 6-4, 7-6, at No. 4 ... Also earned a victory with Brian Mikkelson at No. 1 doubles against Bryant's Juan Paredes and Nicholai Hill on March 28.
As a freshman:
Named to the All-NEC Second Team at No. 3 singles after posting a 15-7 singles mark, including an 11-4 record in dual matches, as a freshman...earned NEC Player of the Month honors for February after going an undefeated 7-0, including a 4-0 singles mark, in the month...stayed hot in early March with a 6-0, 6-3 win against Hartford's Aneil Bhalla to earn NEC Player of the Week honors on 3/10...rebounded from his first loss of the spring, 3/11, to UMBC's Chris Meyer, to win six straight matches.
Before Quinnipiac:
A four-star recruit out of The Pingree (Mass.) School ... ranked second on the tennisrecruiting.net list of the top seniors/grads in New England ... also ranked as the top senior in Massachusetts and No. 112 in the country among seniors/grads, according to tennisrecruiting.net ... the USTA ranked Lane as highly as No. 4 in New England and No. 195 in the combined national rankings among players age 18 and under ... ranked as highly as No. 7 in New England by the USTA in doubles ... a league all-star every year of his career ... three-time league and team MVP, as well as a member of the Boston Globe (three-times) and Salem News All-Scholastic teams ... Massachusetts North Shore Player of the Year in 2007 ... led Pingree to Class C New England Championships in 2005 and 2008 ... also ran cross country all four years of high school.
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A few years back, I answered the phone one day to hear a woman ask if I were the same person who'd written "all those gardening columns for the New Hampshire Times."
Though the Times was long defunct, I laughed and told the caller she had the right person.
"Oh, thank goodness!" she exclaimed. "I really need your help."
It turned out the woman's only child, a son, was heading off to college in a few weeks, and he'd asked his mother to send him off with "the recipe for those pickles you kept on the kitchen counter all summer when I was a kid."
"That was your recipe, from the Times," the woman said. "I remember the title of your column that week: Perpetual Pickles. It made so much sense I started making them every summer for my son and his friends—the same way you said you did to encourage your daughter and her friends to eat more vegetables. I had no idea how much he'd liked them!"
The caller struggled with tears, and she and I ended up having a long chat. As the mom of an only child myself, I knew the joy and anguish of sending that one child off into the world as a freshly fledged adult. I told her it had felt like having an organ removed, and reminisced about how I'd spent months writing a poem for my daughter Molly. I titled it Rock, and used every metaphor I could unearth to remind her to stay rooted to the bedrock values of the family and community that had nurtured her.
By the time I'd finished my story, we two strangers had bonded over a common human experience and were both shedding tears.
But back to the pickles.
Perpetual Pickles Crock
During the harried weeks of midsummer into early fall, the garden crops come fast and furiously. When Molly was old enough to have friends over to play for the day, I came up with the idea of filling an old-fashioned two-gallon crock with a vinegar-and-dill brine, then tossing small cucumbers, green beans, fingerling carrots, and tiny zucchinis into it every day. I invited the children to snack from the pickle crock whenever they felt hungry.
I told the caller I didn't have a real recipe. Every couple of weeks, I made a fresh brine—half cider vinegar, half tap water—filling the crock two-thirds full. I'd add three or four dill heads, a few peeled garlic cloves, and a little pickling salt. Then I'd start adding vegetables, usually weighing them down into the brine with a small plate.
The pickles always disappeared rapidly, sometimes even before they'd "pickled."
Other readers told me they picked up on the idea and started a perpetual pickle crock at their home, even though they didn't have a vegetable garden, using vegetables from a local farm stand, a neighbor's garden or the supermarket (we didn't have farmers' markets back then).
I hope my caller's son is still making pickles. I still am. I made my first batch a week or so ago, when the cucumbers began to bear, and the extra beans, baby summer squash, and carrot thinnings had to have somewhere to go.
We have no hungry children snatching vegetables from the crock, but the two of us seem to keep up with the pickled bounty. I even stole a fat cucumber and a few "dilly beans" before breakfast this morning. Mmm!
Margaret Boyles lives in a wood-heated house in central New Hampshire. She grows vegetables, eats weeds, keeps chickens, swims in a backyard pond in summer, snowshoes in the surrounding woods in winter, and commutes by bike whenever possible.


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Jenson Button admits the next few months will be vital towards his 2013 title bid as he looks to "direct" McLaren's new car in the way he wants...
Jenson Button admits the next few months will be vital towards his 2013 title bid as he looks to "direct" McLaren's new car in the way he wants.
With Lewis Hamilton leaving McLaren for Mercedes and Sergio Perez taking his seat, Button has become the unofficial team leader at McLaren.
The Brit acknowledges that now that he has that role he can have a firmer say in what direction McLaren take with their MP4-28. And he intends taking full advantage of that.
"I still think we're going to have two drivers that want to win the World Championship," the 32-year-old told Sky Sports News.
"I don't think that changes - we're all here to do a job and we all think we can win the World Championship - but it is different [going into 2013].
"Lewis is going to be leaving this team [and], when you're team-mates with Lewis, you share the direction of the car, if you like.
"Now, with Lewis leaving, I have a couple of months to really direct the team into what I would like with the car before 'Checo' arrives.
"That's an important couple of months for me to really feel that I've got a good direction with the car, because Sergio is going to be quick.
"That's good, [as] you need a team-mate that's quick, and I think he's going to learn very quickly, which is very good for him."
Reflecting on this past season, which Button finished fifth in the Drivers' Championship. 93 points off the pace, the 2009 World Champ says he had hoped for better.
"In terms of the end result and the points, I'm not very happy but, in terms of what we've learnt this year, it's been really useful.
"In a way, it's been like a great 'testing' season because we've had great results [and] we've had bad results in terms of the whole team.
"We've learnt a lot and, in that period around Monaco and Canada, when I had some really bad races, we got a lot of information with the direction we took with the car, which was wrong, and it's been really useful for us for the rest of the year.
"I think we can take that forward to 2013."


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