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Strange issue with Epson 3800 printer
October 04, 2007, 10:31:41 AM »
I am in the process of getting comfortable with my brand-new Epson Stylus Pro 3800 printer. It arrived a few days ago, and at first I tried printing text and simple graphics and diagrams on plain singleweight paper.
Yesterday I tried printing my first colour photographs on 4×6" Epson Premium Glossy photo paper. And the results were unuseable! Along one of the long sides of the sheet there was a trace from a paper transport wheel which not just marked but destroyed the smooth surface of the paper. And furthermore the print looked as if it was printed twice, with the second version rotated by maybe 1° against the first (but only in the lower part of the print, approx. 1" short of the sheet's bottom).
So I ran the head alignment procedure from the printer's panel. I also set the Platen Gap to "Wide" in order to reduce the pressure from the transport wheel on the paper's surface.
The next test print came out better but still far from perfect. The surface now was fine, no marks from the paper transport anymore. But the "rotating problem" still persisted, albeit to a lesser degree. The rotation now was about 0.5° ... which of course is completely inacceptable still.
In the printer's user manual I found the chapter about cleaning the printer so I gave it a try. I switched off the printer, unplugged the power cord, and waited a minute. But inside the printer everything was fine; no undue dirt, debris, or forgotten transport locks.
I re-plugged the printer and powered it on again. The next test print came out just perfectly!
Phew! And I even forgot to set the Platen Gap to "Wide" again---after power-up it's always reset to "Standard" automatically.
Okay, so while I am happy now with the printer's current performance I am still concerned about the issue. Next week I will have some serious printing to do and I'll need the printer to work reliably, and I have no idea what has happened or why exactly the issue suddenly went away. Will it happen again? Will it go away again after a simple power-down-power-up sequence? Has anybody experienced a similar issue?
-- Olaf
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Reply #1 on:
October 04, 2007, 11:37:32 AM »
Hello Olaf
Hmmm, I've had my 3800 since the 11th of last month, the only problem i've had is the front drop down door not locking up into place (still waiting for Epson to replace this bit) and that was fresh out of the box.
I've printed on 4x6" Epson Premium Glossy photo paper, it was the first paper i used in the machine, it looks tiny in the paper feed, it feed through without any marks at all and i didn't change any settings like the Platen Gap so why that had to done is strange.
I would give Epson a call, their engineers are really helpful, they might have heard of this happening to someone else, therefore giving you advice on what to do. It might be new to them so they might send someone out to take a look at it. Either way, if you give them a call it might help to put your mind at rest.
Good luck with your printing next week.
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October 05, 2007, 06:19:03 PM »
I'm going to take a wild (but semi-educated) guess here. My understanding is that this printer has two sets of heads, each with four colors. I bet that one set of heads is badly misaligned compared to the other (e.g., rotated). This could explain the "double" printed look, and maybe even the damage.
I agree with the previous poster. Take it up with your dealer or Epson for repair or replacement.
Good luck.
P.S., mine has been flawless and a joy to use.
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October 05, 2007, 10:09:34 PM »
Thanks for your replies everyone!
Today I had an online chat with an Epson service person, and he recommended updating the printer driver from version 5.51 (came with the printer) to version 6.50 (the latest). Updating the driver software, by the way, is a pretty complex procedure; just installing the new version over the old won't do. If the software update doesn't help then I shall return the printer to the dealer for a replacement, the technician said.
So I updated the driver (and the LFP Remote Panel, too), and then did some more test printing. All prints today came out just perfectly. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping it's going to stay this way ...
-- Olaf
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October 06, 2007, 03:32:30 AM »
Any chance that first sheet just got hung up on something, sort of jammed. The damage to the edge and the "double printing" seems like a result.
Might even be a piece of all those pieces of tape and foam they use ... there's a ton of it. I found a piece a week later that I'd miss. Maybe something like that semi jammed the paper.
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October 06, 2007, 05:53:57 AM »
I bought a 3800 and the main feeder was working fine. The first time I tried the rear feed it wouldn't work. It tuns out there was one more piece of that blue tape that I missed. It's easy to do.
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October 06, 2007, 11:48:11 AM »
Thanks for your replies everyone!
Today I had an online chat with an Epson service person, and he recommended updating the printer driver from version 5.51 (came with the printer) to version 6.50 (the latest). Updating the driver software, by the way, is a pretty complex procedure; just installing the new version over the old won't do. If the software update doesn't help then I shall return the printer to the dealer for a replacement, the technician said.
So I updated the driver (and the LFP Remote Panel, too), and then did some more test printing. All prints today came out just perfectly. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed hoping it's going to stay this way ...
-- Olaf
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Can you please explain the (complex) software update procedure? I still do not have a good idea of what version 6.5 of the driver offers (besides an updated interface).
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October 06, 2007, 06:15:43 PM »
Can you please explain the (complex) software update procedure? I still do not have a good idea of what version 6.5 of the driver offers (besides an updated interface).
Well ... I cannot explain but describe it. The point is getting rid of any previously installed Epson software. I guess besides the updated user interface the new driver also has some internal bugfixes. I received the update procedure for Windows XP in German language; the translation is mine. Here it comes:
1. Download [a href=\"http://esupport.epson-europe.com/FileDetails.aspx?lng=de-DE&data=90NVirE+OTo2VjAVYaMZCsZce+H4DIpq&id=318471]the latest Epson 3800 driver software[/url]. The link is to Epson Europe; I wasn't able to find the same driver on Epson's U.S. site (but curiously, the U.S. site has the latest printer firmware while the European site has not ... it's a mess).
2. Log on to your PC as a user with administrator rights.
3. Disconnect the printer's USB cord.
4. Go to System Settings > Printers and Faxes and remove the Epson printer from there.
5. Go to System Settings > Add/Remove Programs and remove all Epson software. If there are more Epson products installed besides the 3800's driver then you'll have to re-install them later.
6. Navigate to the folder "inf" in your Windows folder (i. e. C:\WINDOWS\inf or C:\WINNT\inf or similar).
7. Now comes the tedious part. Locate all .inf files whose names start with "oem". Open each one with a text editor (e. g. Notepad). If "Epson" or "Seiko Epson" appear in the first lines of text then delete this .inf file and also all .pnf files with the same filename.
8. Navigate to the folder "systems32" in your Windows folder and locate all .dll files whose names start with "E_". Delete them all. If a file won't remove then rename it. Delete the renamed .dll files after the next re-boot. Note: If you have more Epson products besides the 3800 then you'll have to re-install their software later.
9. Now execute the downloaded driver setup program. Connect your printer's USB cord when the setup program asks for it.
I have no idea if it
has to be this complicated ... but it worked for me.
-- Olaf
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Reply #8 on:
October 07, 2007, 07:54:20 AM »
Thanks Olaf. I wonder why the driver update instructions are so complex this time around. The previous driver updates were pretty much just a simple double-click operation!
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October 08, 2007, 06:17:48 AM »
I think I found a difference between Epson 3800 printer driver 5.51 and 6.50: borderless printing with automatic enlargement off doesn't work. When selecting "Original Data" (i. e. no enlargement) then the settings display will show "borderless w/ max. enlargement"
And when sending an image with this setting to the printer from Photoshop CS3 then it will get screwed up completely---a wide white border will appear at the right and the bottom up the print where no borders at all are supposed to be
The erroneous display of the driver's settings seems to be just the display because Photoshop CS2 will print correctly still. The real screwing-up obviously happens inside Photoshop CS3
-- Olaf
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October 16, 2007, 08:29:19 AM »
As a late arriver in this thread, can I also add that the change to driver version 6.5a for the 3800 is NOT a straight forward job.
I tried it and have had warning about incomplete installation of the 3800 ever since. Trying to uninstall it doesn't work and leaves you stuck with 6.5a.
I find 6.5a is a poor revision of the driver, making changes to the configuration harder than it needs to be.
Epson UK don't want to acknowledge there's a problem with this I'm afraid. I did manage to get a 'How to totally uninstall your Epson printer' type file from them, but it's going to be a nightmare that will involve opening 300+ .INF files in order to delete all the associated Epson files.
Not too impressed with this :-(
If I can find a shortcut to this I'll post back.
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October 18, 2007, 08:57:27 AM »
Update: My now three-week-old Epson 3800 has no issues anymore.
Besides updating the printer driver, I did not take any special measures. The issues basically just went away all by themselves. My first photo prints came out screwed up (as described in this thread's first post) ... but now everything is working just fine. I even hauled the printer around 400 miles in the trunk of my car and it is still printing fine, with no additional head-alignment routine required.
Printing through Photoshop CS3 works well if I only avoid borderless printing with "original data" (i. e. no auto-enlargement to reliably avoid white rims showing up).
Overall, I am happy with my choice. While e. g. the Canon iPF 5000 would also be a nice machine to have, I really like the Epson's manageable size and weight and the plethora of 3rd-party support (tutorials, media, software, profiles ...), and I can live with the lack of roll paper support. I only wish it was easier to purchase A2/A2+ sheets---but at last, a 25-sheet package of Epson Premium Glossy A2 has arrived earlier today.
-- Olaf
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October 18, 2007, 11:13:36 AM »
Thanks for the update. I did end up deciding to go back to the older version of the driver (5.51, downloaded from the Epson USA) site. I managed to do this by completely uninstalling all Epson printer software from my machine, then re-installing from scratch from the files obtained from the Epson USA support site. I don't know if there's anything wrong with 6.5a, but I couldn't get word from Epson about what has changed (besides the interface) with 6.5a, so I'm holding off for now.
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Here is a quaint village that has plenty of pleasant chalets for your ski chalet holiday.
Myself and five others, all in our mid twenties, enjoyed a fabulous week in Plagne 1800 in January 2008.
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Step 1: Materials.
While you are waiting for the camera to arrive, drive down to the local hardware store and pick up these supplies:
- A few 5mm and 4mm screws; it never hurts to have some extra just in case. You will need two 4mm and one 5mm screw for this project.
- Two 4mm nuts.
- One 5mm nut.
- Two 4mm washers.
- A metal baseplate.
- 5 and 4mm taps.
- A #30 and #19 drill bit.
- Optional- Velcro.
- Optional- additional screws.
Um, but if someone is coming to steal your stuff, isn't smashing the security camera the first thing they are likely to do?
And lasers. Everything needs lasers.
give this to drug addicts for some sneeky trading other than a trash can (I saw "the handoff" in barbeton once, it was funny!)


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Outdoor Research
Mithril Jacket (Women's)
Out of Stock Product Number: 28049
The women's Outdoor Research Mithril Jacket provides ultimate protection when you're trolling about in cold, wet conditions. Waterproof Ventia soft shell fabric and exterior seam tape shed wet snow and prevent soak -through for superior dryness, and a fleece lining retains body heat when you need it most.
* This product does not qualify for shipping to all countries.
- Ventia Dry™ construction
- Fully seam taped waterproof/breathable Ventia™ soft shell fabric with warm fleece interior
- Water-resistant zippers
- Fully adjustable hood
- Brushed tricot-lined collar
- Front zipper with internal stormflap
- Two zippered hand pockets
- Elastic cuffs with hook/loop tabs
- Dual drawcord hem adjustments
Gender: Women's
Weight: (M) 19.8 oz. / 560 g
Fit: Standard Fit
Dimensions: Center Back Length: 26" / 67 cm
Season: F13
Vendor ProductId: 96115
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NWU News
February 14, 2012
Twenty Nebraska Wesleyan University students spent 10 days of their winter break immersed in a poverty-stricken area of Kansas City.
February 14, 2012
Are you interested in living in one of the University's theme houses next year?
February 14, 2012
Nebraska Wesleyan University has announced its Academic Honors List for the fall semester of the 2011-2012 academic year.
February 13, 2012
With the 2012 commencement ceremony nearing, Nebraska Wesleyan University alumni are invited back to campus to volunteer and celebrate the school's largest academic event.
February 9, 2012
Get involved in the NWU 3000-Hour Service Challenge! Check out these service opportunities for February 2012.
February 8, 2012
In his 37 years as choral director at Nebraska Wesleyan University, William Wyman has experienced countless special opportunities.
February 7, 2012
The Career & Counseling Center will be promoting The Resume Bank to the employers who attend the Backpack to Briefcase Reception on Wednesday, February 29.
February 7, 2012
Thursday, February 2, 2012, marked the start of an exciting challenge for the spring semester.
February 2, 2012
Nebraska Wesleyan University alum Jason Licht describes his job in simplistic terms.
January 31, 2012
Note: Online tickets sales for the 2012 Bowls for Backpacks have ended. Tickets will be available at the door on Sunday.
January 25, 2012
Nebraska Wesleyan University alumna Emily Kinney hasn't forgotten what opening night on Broadway feels like: nerves, excitement and more nerves.
January 24, 2012
Interested in participating in a short summer study abroad experience with NWU professors? Deadlines are quickly approaching for travels planned for this summer.
January 23, 2012
New students who move into Johnson Hall next fall will literally have a "cooler" experience in their first-year residence hall compared to the students who have lived there for the past 64 years.
January 20, 2012
The Women's Resource Center will sponsor "Love Is Irrational; Why We Love and Loath Twilight" on Tuesday, January 24.
January 20, 2012
Only 100 tickets remain for this year's winter formal, scheduled for Friday, February 17.
January 19, 2012
Weary Center Snow Day Hours
January 19, 2012
Join other Omaha-area students and find out why a Nebraska Wesleyan education is like no other.
January 17, 2012
Nebraska Wesleyan University kicked off its spring Forum Lecture Series with an expert on regenerative medicine who discussed his latest invention — a spray-cell gun for burn victims.
January 17, 2012
Are you interested in being a Peer Assistant for the upcoming 2012-2013 academic year?
January 13, 2012
In summer 2015 NASA's New Horizons mission will be the first spacecraft to visit the icy dwarf planet, Pluto.
January 12, 2012
The Weary Center is offering a variety of fitness classes available to NWU students. Students must check in at the front desk with their fob or ID card.
January 12, 2012
Nebraska Wesleyan University's Theatre Department will present the student-directed play, "Drop Dead!," January 26-28.
January 11, 2012
Just in time for the spring semester, the Prairie Wolves Bookstore is offering is Lowest Textbook Price Guarantee.
January 11, 2012
The artistic talents of high school students are being showcased at Nebraska Wesleyan's third annual juried art exhibition "Bridge."
January 11, 2012
Nebraska Wesleyan University will celebrate the life and contributions of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. with activities planned for the week of January 16.
January 10, 2012
Weary Center hours for the Spring 2012 semester will be in effect from January 17th through May 10th. Those hours are:
January 9, 2012
Nebraska Wesleyan University welcomes its students back for the spring semester with "Welcome Back Comedy Night." The evening will feature comedian Tig Notaro.
December 22, 2011
Two Nebraska Wesleyan University students received top honors in research at the annual Nebraska Undergraduate Sociological Symposium.
December 21, 2011
Twenty Nebraska Wesleyan University students are spending part of the semester break in Kansas City, Mo., where they are working on projects dealing with children and poverty.
December 21, 2011
Nebraska Wesleyan University adjunct professor Randy Bowdish provided his students with more than 30 pages of resources.
December 20, 2011
On a cold, dreary fall day students from two Nebraska Wesleyan classes spent their afternoon on a spacious meeting room floor tying hundreds of fleece knots.
December 19, 2011
The Emmy-nominated Nebraska Wesleyan University Choir is performing a concert of classic choral literature during its current winter tour.
December 19, 2011
Nebraska Wesleyan University sophomore Gabe Taylor fondly remembers the University Choir's international tour to Estonia last summer. He enjoyed the country so much that he called his mom from...
December 12, 2011
Nebraska Wesleyan University now leads all NAIA schools in Academic All-Americans thanks to seven recent honors.
December 12, 2011
Nebraska Wesleyan University's spring lectures will kick off Thursday, January 26 with a lecture on human cell regeneration.
December 9, 2011
Communication professor Karla Jensen knows her research methods class has been a lot for her students to digest. So on the first day of finals, she and her husband Travis are giving them something a...
December 6, 2011
Students who live in the residence halls are reminded that the residence halls will close at 9 p.m. on Friday, December 16.
December 5, 2011
Does racism and prejudice happen on Nebraska Wesleyan's campus?
December 2, 2011
The next theatre cabaret performances will be held Friday, December 9 and Saturday, December 10 and will include songs with the theme, Holiday Inn.
December 1, 2011
Nebraska Wesleyan's Symphonic Band will perform its annual winter concert on Sunday, December 4 at 3 p.m.
November 29, 2011
Take a break from studying during Culmination Week next week with FREE beverages, FREE snacks and FREE stress relief.
November 29, 2011
The Service Learning Department is partnering with the Salvation Army again this year for the Angel Tree Project.
November 29, 2011
Interested in studying abroad?
November 28, 2011
The Weary Center will be closed on Friday, December 16th.
November 28, 2011
Ryan Sallans has made it his work to visit college campuses across the country sharing his personal story about transitioning from female to male.
November 28, 2011
As families gather for the holidays, it can be a more difficult time for those who have lost loved ones.
November 28, 2011
The Nebraska Wesleyan University Choir will join the Lincoln Choral Artists for a concert of seasonal music on Sunday, December 11.
November 22, 2011
A Nebraska Wesleyan University senior says her recent experience as a Rhodes Scholarship finalist has reaffirmed her commitment to making a positive impact on the world.
November 16, 2011
Nebraska Wesleyan will celebrate a 23-year-old holiday tradition when it hosts is annual Elizabethan Christmas feast.


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