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Are we bound by destiny? Or can we actually make a choice, other than that we are "destined" to make? ( if destiny exist)
I currently believe that, in a sense, we cannot make a choice, any choice, other than what we are destined to make.
Imagine having a clone of our universe, IE: plants, animals, weather, Humans, even the experiences, thoughts, memories, synapses of all brains, down to the atomic level etc, .but neither Universe is aware of the others existence.
Then if we could "pause" both universes and "play" at the same time where they would be in complete sync, same cloud, same raindrops, same falling leaf, same decisions being made, same thoughts etc from both Universes.
Would not both "Worlds" continue to run in sync ?
I propose that they would continue in sync since decisions are made solely on information taken in previously and or situations which we find ourselves.
Then if we paused "Universe A" and allowed "Universe B" to continue to run for 100 years before "playing Universe A" would not Universe A have to follow the exact path that took place in Universe B? If not, then why not?
I think, if the above is true, that EVERY decision we make is the ONLY ONE we can make as it is based on the things around us, and also previous thoughts and experiences, since this is all we have "to go on" when making a decision.
And since these 2 universes are not dependent on each other, would the fact that one does not really exist change this concept any?"
I think that being able to compare the "idea" of having 2 identical universes somehow makes it easier to understand, or at least for me to be able to try to explain my thoughts.
Not that there is something or someone controlling what we do, just that we have to make THAT choice based on ALL information being presented to us and making any other choice other than that one, is impossible, unless i'm wrong in my thinking.
I tried to bounce this idea off of my wife, but she shuts down when I get to the part about "cloned universe".
Also, if this is true, then how does knowing this information affect you now?
Oct 10 2011: I will first define what destiny can or may be from my optics.
i see it as two "event lines" that cross each other sometimes but their basic state is to be away one from the other.
1. The facts or events of life that we can't control.
2. The facts or events of life that are direct result of our decisions and actions.
3. Crossroads, or sets of opportunities we can choose from.
Lets get into category 1. We can't decide where and under which conditions we are born, or what school to attend until we reach certain age, or who will win the elections in a foreign country or stop a war, or what health issues we will have to face. As individuals there are events that are away of our control that is the core of what we call destiny. But here comes category 2. The events that are result of our decisions or actions. Two individuals one born in a difficult social condition, and the other born having all the economic and emotional support, can both achieve similar levels of success in the future, according to their decisions. Maybe one of them will have to work harder than the other but for sure, both of them will face Crossroads (Category 3) and both of them will have to decide which of the several paths they will go. Again decisions are the key here, all is based on a decision. I am not yet sure if health can be 100% influenced by our actions or decisions. On this matter i would like to hear some ideas.Oct 6 2011: Read up on 'determinism' if you're interested in this kind of stuff.
It is also related to dualistic and monistic views on the nature of the human mind - dualism denotes that the human mind/spirit/soul exists in the physical universe and in a different substrate - presumably one on which only the mind operates, and somehow interacts with this world through the brain, while monism denotes that the human mind only exists in this material universe - and by extension must obey the same laws of physics that all other matter follows.
Outside of the human mind, there is little reason for us to suppose that our universe operates on a duality... and most modern scholars studying into fields related to the brain/mind would agree with the monistic supposition of the workings of the human (and all other) minds.
The last question you pose is particularly salient however - understanding that the we are affected by natural, measurable forces means that we can take that information and improve ourselves with it. We do not have to ascribe to ephemeral notions of spirit, willpower or character, what we can ascribe to a complex interplay of genetics, environment and opportunity.
Oct 7 2011: George,
Will research some of these terms you present.
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Oct 5 2011: Adriaan,
Interesting thoughts,
What are your thoughts about the question regarding the :Universes "A & B" being in sync with one another with one even shadowing perfectly the other at a later date?
I think that it is true, that it is not possible to run this theory in a lab, just for conjecture. But lets pretend that we could do that mentioned in the original post.
If you think that the Universes "A & B" would be in sync, then would not this prove that the decision being made, have to be made that way, and if not, then, in my thought process, the cloning was not perfect since at the moment the decisions were not running in sync, something must have been different between the 2 Universes.
I've read on another post regarding "Fate" a answer that mentioned "Cause and effect"
I"m not saying that I think that there is a higher power that has already planned everything for us in advance and this power is just letting it play out.
What I'm saying is that there is not other choice we can make, other than the one that we do make.
How can it be otherwise?
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Oct 13 2011: To me the "example" that I talked about makes sense to me.
I know that you mentioned ",..... but it is just impossible to proof(sic)anything when done "just for conjecture" and with pretending."
But there really is nothing wrong with using illustrations or examples of things that do not really exist to try to explain a theory.
What I was originally thinking was that a person will always make the decision that causes the "least resistance" "in their mind" for example: ( and this would work with anyone, on any level) Mother Theresa, Ghandi, etc etc basically HAD to do the things that they did, acted the way they did, AS doing anything else, would have been a harder choice for them to make, mentally.
For Mother Theresa to not care daily for those in India ,would have made her a miserable woman.
Please understand that I am not in any way saying that they took the easy road, that is just the way that they had to be, to be satisfied with their life.
Anyway, that is what started me to thinking about how we must follow a certain course. To me it makes sense.Oct 5 2011: Actually we have a choice and that choice is predestined and that choice was only predestined because we were going to chose that , So, we have free will , a choice to choose, We can't say "Oh we have no choice and let it flow", then the things won't work and that not working will also be our destiny ,because its us who will be choosing that .
Every one has a path to choose, and the universe is already following the laws, but its only the humans who can follow the laws which are given to him by the creator of the universe and its him "the human" that if he follows them to remain in harmony or not!Oct 5 2011: We don't really have a choice. A single format works in almost all aspects of the universe and its the same in the case of human beings too. But the only difference is that, we understand it as Life. Any object in the Universe has an orbit and path and its course and stuff. Its same in the case of Humans too. We understand that as destiny. its real.
We desire for something and we achieve it. Is it because we desired for it that we achieved it or the vice versa!Oct 5 2011: Michael,
I would thank you for replying, but I know you could not help yourself anyway.
All kidding aside, you mentioned "The corollary is that, if humans are just physical beings, then they too are completely a product of the physical rules. In that sense, we would have no "free will."
And "Chaos theory says that this is not necessarily so if the two sets of initial conditions or interaction rules differ, even if it is ever so slightly"
If things were to, somehow, veer off course from each other, would there not have to had been a "slight difference" somewhere?
Even as small as a thought being ever so different, could in my opinion, cause a change. But the thought being different would in my theory(probably not mine) could be found out that there was something not "the same"
I do appreciate your thoughts, and I am so glad that I have found this site, very interesting , heady stuff.Oct 5 2011: Phil, your idea makes sense for a Newtonian universe. Starting from the same set of initial conditions and following the same set of interaction rules, two physical systems will evolve in the exact same way. (Chaos theory says that this is not necessarily so if the two sets of initial conditions or interaction rules differ, even if it is ever so slightly.) The corollary is that, if humans are just physical beings, then they too are completely a product of the physical rules. In that sense, we would have no "free will."
Of course, Newtonian physics is just a model. If you subscribe to Quantum theories, then all of this reasoning (I am told) quickly goes out the window. And even that is just a model. So in reality, the jury is still out on fate vs. free will.
Here's an interesting question. Would you rather live as if you have free will or live as if you are controlled by destiny? (That's a trick question- since if you subscribe to the latter, you can't choose the former anyways.)
Oct 6 2011: Quantum indeterminacy isn't actually a 'gap' through which 'free will' can fit.
It's not so much we understand enough about quantum mechanics, but that we understand enough about the nature of the human mind to make such a statement.Oct 4 2011: Phil i think you just made an extraordinary point....if looking from your point of view...that is the cloned universe the decisions we take are the only ones we can....but i think personally that its impossible to clone human emotions and and as all the decisions we take are ultimately the result of our thoughts and emotions hence they can change with every moment and evry person...
Oct 4 2011: Rashi,.
Thank you for responding,
I brought up the idea of a cloned universe just for the sake of reasoning between the 2 universes and I forgot to clarify with the comment:
"and since these 2 universes are not dependent on each other, would the fact that one does not really exist change this concept of the other STILL having to go the same path as it would IF there were 2?"
I think that being able to compare the "idea" of having 2 identical universes somehow makes it easier to understand, or at least for me to be able to try to explain my thoughts.
Additional comments?
( I was able to edit the original post to include this omission.)


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Nice work!
Now where is the rest of it? What a teaser.
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I act under the assumption that this is a welding forum and not a means of wasting my time being tricked into clicking onto advertisements for Chevrolet Trucks and art galleries or come ons for the Sierra Club.
You may have something pertaining to your stated subject matter interspersed somewhere within your advertisements but I'm not looking further after five attempts to find it.
How about doing something useful by explaining to us the compensation scheme of what you are obviously doing.
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Pick the link in the text instead of in the signature. He has done NOTHING wrong and I feel you owe him an apology.
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Still got a couple more weekends of work to do. Hopefully I'll have it completed by the end of August.
Personally I like to cook pulled pork, tri-tip and pork spare ribs. I'm hit and miss on Brisket. Taken a 1st and 3rd place for pulled pork and 2nd place form my brisket in a couple amateur competitions. Also make a pretty mean pinto bean and wood fired bread that goes great with my tri-tip.
Haven't done any professional comps, but the last 2 years I have been in charge of a KCBS sanctioned competition and it's motivated me to get back out and compete again. But need to get my self mobile first.
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looking forward with great envy to your finished pictures - I think there was a bit of a knee jerk reaction following what was probably a terrible day by another member - eh, let it slide - I don't believe he's consistently nasty like that....I've been there and I'm sure we all have...
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The Kingdom of Thailand is a civil law country with strong common law influences. Modern Thai law dates back to the reign of King Rama V (1868-1910), who enacted many reforms of the Thai legal system, such as the elimination of trial by ordeal, and the establishment of the Ministry of Justice and the first law school in Thailand. King Rama V (also known as King Chulalongkorn) also began the process of codifying Thai law, and the Thai Penal Code was enacted in 1908. Many of these reforms were overseen by King Rama V's fourteenth son, Prince Rapee Pattanasak, who is considered to be the father of the modern Thai legal system. The codification and modernization/westernization of Thai law were continued under the reigns of King Rama VI (1910-1925) and King Rama VII (1925-1935). An analysis of the social changes influencing the Reformation of Thailand Law can be found on the Thailand Law Forum website.
The Kingdom of Thailand has been a constitutional monarchy since 1932. There have been eighteen constitutions, with the current Constitution having been enacted on August 24, 2007. Under the constitution, the King is the head of state and exercises his sovereign powers through the National Assembly, the Council of Ministers and the Courts. An article summarizing the basic structure of the Thailand government is available online.
Legislative power is exercised by the National Assembly, which consists of the House of Representatives and the Senate. The House of Representatives has 480 members who serve four year terms. 400 members are elected directly from 157 multi-representative constituencies. The remaining 80 members are elected from party lists, and are chosen on the basis of the proportion of votes cast by constituents in eight groupings of provinces. The Senate has 150 members who serve six year terms. Each of 76 provinces elects one member. The remaining 74 members are selected by the Senators Selective Committee from persons nominated by organizations in the academic, public, private and other sectors.
The constitution provides for the enactment of the following organic acts:
(1) Organic Act on Election of Members of the House of Representatives and Obtaining Senators;
(2) Organic Act on Election Commission;
(3) Organic Act on Political Parties;
(4) Organic Act on Referendum;
(5) Organic Act on Rules and Procedures of the Constitutional Court;
(6) Organic Act on Criminal Proceedings Against Persons Holding Political Positions;
(7) Organic Act on Ombudsmen;
(8) Organic Act on Counter Corruption; and
(9) Organic Act on State Audit.
An organic law bill may be introduced only by:
(1) the Council of Ministers;
(2) at least one-tenth of the members of the House of Representatives or one-tenth of the members of the National Assembly; or
(3) the Constitutional Court, the Supreme Court of Justice or an independent constitutional organ, where the President of such Court or independent organ has charge and control of the execution of such organic act.
A vote of the majority of members of each House of the National Assembly is required for the promulgation of any organic law.
A bill other than an organic law bill may be introduced by:
(1) the Council of Ministers;
(2) at least twenty members of the House of Representatives;
(3) a Court or an independent constitutional organ, but only in respect of a law that is concerned with institutional organization or a law the execution of which the President of such Court or such organ has charge and control; or
(4) persons having the right to vote of not less than ten thousand in number, on matters relating to rights and liberties or fundamental state policies;
Provided that bills introduced under (2), (3) or (4) that are money bills are also endorsed by the Prime Minister.
A vote of a majority of a quorum of each House of the National Assembly is required for the promulgation of any law other than an organic law.
The King's approval is required to promulgate any law; however, if the King does not approve a law, it may still be promulgated with the votes of at least two-thirds of the members of the National Assembly.
The head of the government is the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister and the Council of Ministers are responsible for the administration of state affairs and establishing government policies. The Council of Ministers may propose legislation for consideration by the National Assembly, and the endorsement of the Prime Minister is required for the introduction of money bills.
The King appoints the Prime Minister and up to thirty-five additional Ministers, who comprise the Council of Ministers. The Prime Minister must be a member of the House of Representatives and must have the approval of a majority of members of the House of Representatives. The Prime Minister my not hold office for more than eight consecutive years.
The King may, with the approval of the Council of Ministers, issue emergency decrees having the force of law, for the purpose of maintaining national or public safety, maintaining national economic security, or averting public calamity. The King may also issue emergency decrees if a law on taxes, duties or currency, requiring urgent and confidential consideration, is necessary. Emergency decrees must be submitted to the National Assembly for consideration without delay.
The King may also, inter alia, issue royal decrees not contrary with law, declare and lift martial law in accordance with the Martial Law, declare war (with the approval of at least two-thirds of the members of the National Assembly) and enter into treaties (with the approval of the National Assembly in the case of material treaties).
The Courts have responsibility for trying and adjudicating cases. The constitution expressly provides for four types of courts: the Constitutional Court, the Courts of Justice, the Administrative Courts and the Military Courts.
2.3.1. The Constitutional Court
The Constitutional Court has eight members, who are appointed by the King with the advice of the Senate, and serve one nine-year term. The members of the Constitutional Court consist of three judges of the Supreme Court of Justice, elected by the general assembly of the Supreme Court of Justice, two judges from the Supreme Administrative Court, elected at a general assembly of the Supreme Administrative Court, and four individuals (two experts in the field of law and two experts in a field of social science) nominated by a selection committee and approved either by a two-thirds vote of the Senate or, if not approved by the Senate, by the unanimous vote of a selection committee. The judges of the Constitutional Court elect one of their members to be the President of the Constitutional Court. The Constitutional court has an independent secretariat with autonomy in personnel administration, budgeting and other activities.
The Constitutional Court has jurisdiction to determine whether the provisions of any law, rule or regulation are contrary to or inconsistent with the Constitution. Decisions of the Constitutional Court are not subject to appeal by any other court.
Courts of Justice adjudicate all cases except where otherwise specified in the Constitution or other laws. There are three levels of Courts of Justice: Courts of First Instance, Courts of Appeal and the Supreme Court of Justice. The Courts of Justice have an independent secretariat with autonomy in personnel administration, budgeting and other activities. Judges in the Courts of Justice are appointed and removed by the King with the approval of the Judicial Commission of the Courts of Justice.
188.8.131.52. The Supreme Court of Justice
The Supreme Court of Justice has jurisdiction to hear and adjudicate appeals from the Courts of Appeal and from the specialized courts of the Courts of First Instance. The Supreme Court can hear appeals on questions of law and, in certain cases, on questions of fact. The Supreme Court of Justice has original jurisdiction in cases involving the removal or revocation of the right to vote of members of the National Assembly.
The Constitution provides that the Supreme Court of Justice shall have a Criminal Division for Persons Holding Political Positions to hear cases brought by, or against, members of the National Counter Corruption Commission. The Supreme Court of Justice also has original jurisdiction in those cases.
The Supreme Court of Justice has many other divisions dealing with specific types of cases. A quorum consists of three judges, but for exceptional cases, a plenary session (with a quorum consisting of a majority of the judges of the Supreme Court) may be called.
The Courts of Appeal consist of the Court of Appeal and nine regional Courts of Appeal. They have jurisdiction to hear and adjudicate appeals from judgments and orders of the Courts of First Instance, and can hear appeals on both questions of law and fact. In addition, the Courts of Appeal have original jurisdiction in cases involving the removal or revocation of the right to vote of any member of a local assembly or any local administrator, and the judgment of the Courts of Appeal in such cases is final. A quorum of three judges generally hears each appeal.
126.96.36.199. The Courts of First Instance
The Courts of First Instance are the trial courts. There are three types of Courts of First Instance: general courts, juvenile and family courts, and specialized courts. General courts have jurisdiction over criminal and civil cases, and are divided into Civil Courts, Criminal Courts, Provincial Courts and Kwaeng Courts. The juvenile and family courts hear and adjudicate cases involving a minor, and consist of the Central Juvenile and Family Court, the Provincial Juvenile and Family Courts, and the Division of Juvenile and Family Court in the Provincial Courts. The specialized courts consist of the Labour Court, the Tax Court, the Intellectual Property and International Trade Court, and the Bankruptcy Court. Juries are not used in trials.
2.3.3. The Administrative Courts
The Administrative Courts have jurisdiction to try and adjudicate cases between (i) a government entity or official and (ii) a private individual or another government entity or official. Such cases must be a consequence of the exercise of an administrative power under the law or a consequence of a pursuit of an administrative act by a government entity or official. Administrative Courts do not have jurisdiction over the direct exercise by a constitutional organ of powers granted to it under the Constitution. The Administrative Courts have an independent secretariat with autonomy in personnel administration, budgeting and other activities.
The Military Courts have jurisdiction to try and adjudicate criminal cases against persons subject to the jurisdiction of the Military Courts.
The Constitution provides for the following independent constitutional organs:
(1) the Election Commission;
(2) the Ombudsmen;
(3) the National Counter Corruption Commission; and
(4) the State Audit Commission.
The Constitution also provides for the following additional constitutional organs:
(1) Public Prosecutors;
(2) the National Human Rights Commission; and
(3) the National Economic and Social Council.
Constitutional organs have autonomy in personnel, budgeting and other activities as provided by applicable law.
The Kingdom of Thailand is a constitutional monarchy, and the Constitution is the supreme law of the country. The Constitution is a lengthy document and provides for the powers of the King, the National Assembly, the Council of Ministers, the Courts, and Constitutional Organs. The Constitution also includes provisions outlining the rights, liberties and duties of the people, and enumerates directive principles of fundamental state policies relating to e.g. national security, social and cultural affairs, foreign affairs, the economy and the environment. The Constitution may be amended by vote of more than one-half of the members of the National Assembly, with the approval of the King, or if the King shall not approve the amendment, by vote of not less than two-thirds of the members of the National Assembly. Amendments changing the form of government are not permitted. A discussion of the Thailand Constitution of 1997 can be found on the Thailand Law Forum website.
The fundamental laws that form the backbone of Thai law have been codified into four codes: the Civil and Commercial Code, the Penal Code, the Civil Procedure Code and the Criminal Procedure Code.
The Civil and Commercial Code includes provisions relating to general principles, obligations, contract law, property law, family law and the law of succession. The provisions relating to general principles are particularly significant because they are often applied to laws outside the Civil and Commercial Code.
The Land Code (1954) was the first major legislation systemizing land laws in Thailand.
3.3. Acts, Treaties and Administration of Laws
Many important social and economic laws are embodied in Acts, which are laws adopted by the National Assembly, either with the approval of the King or, in the event the King does not approve a bill, with the approval of at least two-thirds of the members of the National Assembly.
Under the current Constitution, the King may enter into treaties with other countries and international organizations, but treaties that change the territories over which the Kingdom of Thailand has sovereignty or jurisdiction require the enactment of an Act for their implementation. Any other material treaties must be approved by the National Assembly. These provisions do not affect the implementation of treaties entered into before August 24, 2007.
Arbitration provisions are permitted by the Arbitration Act B.E. 2530 (1987). A research paper on arbitration in Thailand can be found on the Thailand Law Forum website.
Bankruptcies are governed by, inter alia, the Bankruptcy Act B.E. 2483 (1940), as amended by the Bankruptcy Act (No. 7) B.E. 2547 (2004). An article explaining the unique role of Thailands Bankruptcy Courts is published in the Thailand Law Forum website.
The protection of the environment is governed by, inter alia, the National Environmental Protection and Promotion Act B.E. 2535 (1992). This act is administered by the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment.
Intellectual property rights are governed by, inter alia, the Copyright Act B.E. 2537 (1994), the Patent Act B.E. 2522 (1979), as amended by the Patent Act (No. 2) B.E. 2535 (1992) and the Patent Act (No. 3) B.E. 2542 (1999), and the Trademark Act, B.E. 2534 (1991), as amended by the Trademark Act (No. 2) B.E. 2543 (2000). The Kingdom of Thailand is a signatory of the Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works (with certain reservations) and the Paris Convention for the Protection of Industrial Property and the Patent Cooperation Treaty, but is not a signatory of the Rome Convention for the Protection of Performers, Producers of Phonograms and Broadcasting Organizations or the Universal Copyright Convention. These laws are administered by the Department of Intellectual Property under the Ministry of Commerce.
Labor laws are provided by, inter alia, the Labour Relations Act 1975, the Act of Establishment of Labour Courts and Labour Court Procedure 1979, the Provident Fund Act 1987, the Social Security Act 1990, the Compensation Fund Act 1994 and the Labour Protection Act 1998.
Financial institutions are regulated by, inter alia, Financial Institutions Businesses Act B.E. 2551(2008), as amended, the Life Insurance Act B.E. 2535 (1992) and the Casualty Insurance Act B.E. 2535 (1992), the Act Forbidding the Charging of Interest at Excessive Rates B.E. 2475 (1932), and the Interest on Loans by Financial Institutions Act B.E. 2523 (1980). Financial institutions are also subject to regulation by the Ministry of Finance and the Bank of Thailand.
The issuance and trading of securities is governed by, inter alia, the Securities and Exchange Act B.E. 2535 (1992), which provides for the creation of the Securities and Exchange Commission. Derivatives contracts and markets are governed by, inter alia, the Derivatives Act B.E. 2546 (2003) and are also subject to regulation by the Securities and Exchange Commission.
The business operations of foreigners in Thailand are governed by the Foreign Business Act B.E. 2542 (1999).
International Treaties
· US – Thailand Treaty of Amity and Economic Relations 2005
· US – Thailand Treaty of Amity and Economic Relations 1966
· Treaty Between the US and Thailand on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters
· The Avoidance of Double Taxation and the Prevention of Fiscal Evasion with Respect to Taxes on Income Between Thailand and the United States
In the Kingdom of Thailand, judicial precedent is not binding on lower courts. The Supreme Court of Justice is not bound to follow its own decisions, and lower courts are not bound to follow precedents set by higher courts. In practice, however, the decisions of the Supreme Court of Justice do have significant influence on the Supreme Court of Justice itself and on lower courts. A selection of Thailand Supreme Court published decisions are updated on the Thailand Law Forum website.
Government Gazette – All Acts, Royal Decrees, Ministerial Orders, Regulations and official government notices are published in the Government Gazette.
Codes, Acts, Treaties and Judgments – The website of the Law Reform Commission of the Council of State includes a searchable database with the following data:
Constitutional Court – The website for the Constitutional Court provides Court Rulings for 1998 and summaries of rulings for 1999-2003 in English.
Courts of Justice – Selected Acts and Rules relating to the Courts of Justice are available from the Courts of Justice website.
Various Thailand Acts and Regulations are available in the database section of Thailand Law Forum website.
5. Treatises and Law Reviews
The Lawyers Council of Thailand
Thailand Law Forum (has a database of selected laws, summaries of opinions of the Supreme Court, legal news and a law journal)
AsianLII (has links to the Constitution, Supreme Court decisions, legislation, Constitutional Court decisions, Central Intellectual Property and International Trade Court decisions)
NATLEX (labor laws)
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Quote from: RingTailedLemur on April 01, 2013, 06:45:34 AMIs today a public holiday in the US/Canada or Australia?Easter is not a federal holiday, as it is primarily religious. It's up to each state whether to have Friday or Easter Monday off, and often up to each school district and company. The only "religious" federal holiday is Christmas Day, but that has become very secular and so skirts the issue.
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So, I recently noticed that my eyes are getting greener looking and my limbal ring looks a bit darker. My DH's is insistant that I 'm being silly, that my eyes are exactly the same as they've always been (I don't give him much credit because he says khaki and brown are the same color). Besides that, my eye color and hair texture has changed several times over the years.When I was a child they were a very, very dark blue until I was around 5 or so. They changed to a honey/whiskey hazel with a bright gold starburst in the middle. When I hit puberty, they got a kind of olive/moss color mixed in with the honey color. When I hit my 20's they were slightly browner/yellow/honey looking. Now the olive/moss color is coming through much, much more. They also change color when I'm really extremely angry.Anyone else experience this? I'm not imagining it?
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Depends on whether the B pooler can drive straight I guess, although the pro player should be able to drive straight. Also a pro player shouldn't put two drives in a row OB.
The best option would be if the pro player can pay in double which gives maximum advantage.
It really is hard to generalize since all B poolers are not created equal. Maybe the B pooler can't drive but is an awesome putter. Or maybe the B pooler throws everything OB (I once had a partner like that).
I fill that a Pro would not have to carry a B Pooler. I am a fineness thrower. I play doubles all the time. I throw the safe in bound middle of the fairway throws, up shot's, and placement under the basket throws. This gives the power throwers the chance to bring on the power game and test their abilities to the maximum. Power throwers beg me to be their partner all the time.
And now for the main reason I love this game. No matter how good, or how long you been playing this game. EVERYONE THROWS A BAD THROW SOMETIME. This is when my middle of the fairway shot at 220 feet will come in real handy.
If you are in good enough shape pay double and play Cali. That is the best option.
Playing Cali has the advantage of not having to deal with anyone else. I won doubles the last two weeks paired up with partners who just play the game and don't worry about who putts first or any of that crap which is just a distraction. Playing Cali frees you up to make your own decisions.
A week ago, during Sunday league, I got paired up with a decent player who always wanted me to putt first, talked about "laying it up", and then complained a lot. We shot like crap and got nowhere near winning. Frankly, if you aren't going for it in doubles you probably won't win. There is just too much competition so playing it safe won't get you anywhere. Doubles tests your ability to throw a good shot when needed. And my only rule is "go for it" because I don't show up to doubles to play safe shots and shoot an average round. I show up to win. Now I know that won't happen all of the time but that attitude is necessary and I don't regret losing if I know that we gave it our all.
And I don't trust my partner to make any shot that I won't make. I step up to every shot thinking "how do I make that shot". If I mess up it is nice when the partner comes through. But I don't expect my partner to carry me by any means. I expect to carry my own weight. Doesn't always happen but if I can make a few putts or run a few baskets then it's all good. Of course, sometimes the putts just seem to drop in like butter. I love those days.
And I am not really a super big arm power player either. I can bomb a few out there but mainly I know the "right place" to put the drive out there.
I'm with Jim on this one, not all B-pool players are created equal. that being said if I'm a pro I'd rather play by myself. that's just me though. I can see where playing with the b-pool guy could help.(extra putt etc..) He might just get lucky and drill a long one or two.
I think people underestimate how difficult it is to play Cali. I feel that if I had another 920 rated player as a partner I'd like my chances against even a 970 rated pro playing Cali. I see a lot of good players opt for Cali when given the choice and then they try aggressive shots and have to use the Cali to rescue them selves and wind up not much better than their normal rounds are. Obviously, though, it depends on the course and the skill sets of the players involved.
I would take the "b pool" over Cali, unless i could guarantee to in a group with "pro's" to help set my scoring pace. Or the ace pot is over $100.
Really depends, I take it your part of the A pool?
I would take the partner, lots less bogeys with little difference in the numbers of birdies (at least on a long course with OB). If your the pro the birdies will be on you (run at it damn it!) and the par save will be on them (leaving it within 10-15 after or before you run at that 50footer and do a flyby to leave a 35footer). Cali is only better on deuce or die courses or when the ace pool is worth the price of admission (double driving every hole with two ace runs).
Plus you might get a sandbagging "b" pooler (we all do it sometimes depending on the field) and run away with it. Plus I have seen some bad players have some great doubles rounds.
bottom line... partner for for the higher percentage payday or cali for the glory? choice is yours.
Take the B pool player. With Cali you only get ONE extra throw per hole. With a B partner, you get two drives AND two putts for every hole. Let them throw first so they are never under any pressure.
Here is something to ponder for you. I start to use my putter at about a 150 feet. I make some of the putts. But when I miss I leave it less than 5 to 10 feet from the basket. This is why I am a good partner for doubles. I have two aces with a putter one from 170 and another from 149 feet (the 170 foot ace had wind helping me).
Here, if you pay double, you play double. Like you bought an extra you.
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In my experience, other than the timing issue, the two things people find most confusing about the offside rule are that it's the second-last defender, not the last, and that you also can't be offside if you're behind the ball. Essentially meaning that if the goalkeeper moves out, one defender being ahead of the offending player doesn't prevent it being offside, and that any pass going backwards won't lead to an offside call.
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What's the downside in having a rule that says:
It's offsides if an opposition player crosses the penalty box unless:
A) The ball is already inside the box (either held by your team or the opposition)
B) You are crossing it while in possession of the ball
That way it's up to the defense to stay in possesion, you can't just hang out right at the goal line. If the penalty box is too close, maybe draw another line 2/3 of the way between the midfield and the penalty box. Would be massively easier to enforce.
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Hébert and TC5R win 2009 Halloween Classic
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Typically held at the world-famous Cleveland, Ohio landmark The Gate, the 2009 Halloween Classic has found a new home at the equally impressive Holiday Inn. The Classic also served as Round 1 of the 2009/2010 Northeast Grand Slam Series.
As has become the norm, Keven Hébert drove his Reedy/LRP-powered TC5R... (read more)
November 3, 2009
Cavalieri Takes the Pro Buggy Win at the R/C Pro Series Finals
Category: Race Results
From regional entrants all over the country, the R/C Pro Finals brings together racers from nine different regions including the hotbeds like the South, East, and the top Pros from the West division. Racers accumulate points in their region and then take those points to the Finals in Alvarado, TX... (read more)
October 29, 2009
Christer Andersson wins Rebellion Race/Indoor Euros Warm-up
Category: Race Results
Reedy LiPo batteries once again powered the winner of a major touring car event! Christer Andersson, driving his TC5R powered by an LRP SXX/Vector X-12 and Reedy 4900mAh 35C LiPo battery, drove to victory from the pole position at the 2009 Rebellion Race in Mäntsälä, Finland.
This prestigious event is held annually, but this year's edition... (read more)
October 23, 2009
AE TQs & Wins the National Championships of Colombia
Category: Race Results
This well-attended event included 63 drivers in Buggy and 26 in Truggy, 89 drivers from four countries.
The track was 2.60 meters (8.53 ft.) in width. The weather was not bad. The average temperature in the morning was 10°C (50°f).
The team worked hard the first day to set up... (read more)
October 22, 2009
2009 Louisiana Nitro Open
Category: Race Results
Team Associated/Reedy driver Derek Guidry was in attendance this past weekend at the 2009 Louisiana Nitro Open. Derek TQ'd and won both Pro classes with his Associated vehicles powered by Reedy.
Derek dominated the 9-minute qualifiers without pitting and saw run times close to 10 minutes.
In the 30-minute main events Guidry lapped the field, easily... (read more)
October 19, 2009
Bryce Menzies drives the Team Associated/RC10.COM truck to the podium in Surprise, Arizona!
Category: Announcements
Rounds 9 & 10 of the Lucas Oil Off Road Racing Series (LOORRS) took place this time at the Speedworld Off Road Park in Surprise, Arizona. It was a warm but dry weekend that was kicked off with a 'Fan Appreciation Night' hosted by Quicks R/C and Buffalo Wild Wings. (read more)
October 7, 2009
Martin Achter & Team Associated World Champion
Category: Race Results
The 2009 IFMAR World Championships was hosted by the TRAP Facility in Pretoria, South Africa. With very few racers making the journey to the Southernmost tip of Africa the event saw Martin Achter with his Team Associated Factory Team B4 claim Associated's 24th World Championship. (read more)
September 29, 2009
Jason Branham -- Powered By Reedy
Category: Announcements
2009 ROAR 1/8th National finalist and multi-time ROAR Regional and R/C Pro Regional Champion, Jason Branham has joined the Reedy team. Jason will be using the recently crowned ROAR and BRCA National Champion 121 VR engine along with Reedy batteries and accessories.
Having only just received his engines late last week, Jason... (read more)
September 20, 2009
Patrick Hofer is 2009 Swiss Champion
Category: Race Results
Patrick Hofer TQs and wins the first Indoor Race in Stäfa for Swiss Championship in the 2WD Modified Class with his Associated RC10B4 Factory Team Kit. Patrick kept up the lead in the next three races of this four-race series. (read more)
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Launch Vehicle: Atlas-Centaur (AC-50 / Atlas no. 5030D)
Launch Site: ETR / launch complex 36A
NASA Center: Ames Research Center
Spacecraft Mass: 582 kg
Spacecraft Instruments: 1) Charged-particle retarding potential analyzer 2) charged-particle mass spectrometer 3) thermal electron temperature Langmuir probe 4) neutral-particle mass spectrometer 5) cloud photopolarimeter/imaging system 6) temperature sounding infrared radiometer 7) magnetic field fluxgate magnetometer 8) solar wind plasma analyzer 9) surface radar mapper 10) electric field experiment 11) transient gamma-ray burst experiment 12) gas and plasma environment experiment 13) radio occultation experiment 14) atmospheric and solar corona turbulence experiment 15) drag measurements experiment 16) internal density distribution experiment 17) celestial mechanics experiment
Spacecraft Dimensions: 582 kg
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Solar System Log by Andrew Wilson, published 1987 by Jane's Publishing Co. Ltd.
The Pioneer Venus project comprised two spacecraft to explore the atmosphere and surface of Venus. Both spacecraft used a basic cylindrical bus.
Pioneer Venus 1, the orbiter, was designed to spend an extended period in orbit around Venus mapping the surface using a radar package.
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orbit's high and low points (about 150 kilometers) to occur at the same time each Earth day.
Data from the radar mapper allowed scientists to produce a topographical map of most of the Venusian surface between 73° north and 63° south latitude at a resolution of 75 kilometers.
The data indicated that Venus was much smoother and more spherical than Earth. The orbiter identified the highest point on Venus as Maxwell Montes, which rises 10.8 kilometers above the mean surface. Infrared observations revealed a clearing in the planet's atmosphere over the north pole. In addition, ultraviolet light photos showed dark markings that covered the clouds in the visible hemisphere.
Cameras also detected almost continuous lightning activity in the atmosphere. The spacecraft confirmed that Venus has little, if any, magnetic field. Although the mapping radar was switched off on 19 March 1981, it was reactivated again in 1991, thirteen years after launch, to explore the previously inaccessible southern portions of the planet.
In May 1992, Pioneer Venus 1 began the final phase of its mission, maintaining its periapsis between 150 and 250 kilometers until propellant depletion. The last transmission was received at 19:22 UT on 8 October 1992, as its decaying orbit no longer permitted communications. The spacecraft burned in the atmosphere soon after, ending a successful fourteen-year mission that was planned to last only eight months.


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"A moist and flavorful recipe that makes a large quantity of cake. I have been hounded to make this cake time and time again."
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6 cups
grated carrots
1 cup
brown sugar
1 cup
1 1/2 cups
white sugar
1 cup
vegetable oil
2 teaspoons
vanilla extract
1 cup
crushed pineapple, drained
3 cups
all-purpose flour
1 1/2 teaspoons
baking soda
1 teaspoon
4 teaspoons
ground cinnamon
1 cup
chopped walnuts
Before I decided to try this cake I read every single review, paying careful attention to those who did not like the cake very much. Though the overwhelming majority, of which I am now a part, liked this cake very much I understand that you learn a lot more about something by learning what people did not like about it. So, after having made the cake I have a few suggestions for those who didn't like the cake. Most of the complaints where that the cake was too heavy or that it was too moist or "pudding like" A solution to this might be to strain the carrots and pineapple more before adding them in to the cake batter. I know the recipe doesn't specify but I strained the carrots and the pineapple until they where almost dry and added about 2 – 3 tablespoons of the strained liquid back in. I also hydrated the raisins a bit by letting them sit in a cup of warm water while the carrots sat in the brown sugar. Also I made 3 - 8" rounds instead of the recommended 2 - 10" rounds. This will shorten the bake time to about 30 -45 mins. and may also help solve any underdone cake problems… I thought this cake was very good and well worth the effort. Everyone I have served this to has loved this and I certainly plan on making it again.
This is a good carrot cake, but not the best ever. Waaaayyy to much oil. It was very dense, and this may sound wierd, but it was too moist. Almost like it wasn't cooked (& yeah it was). Thanks anyway Nan. ;)
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2009 edit: Use cheesecloth to strain the carrots! Wrap 1/3 the carrots in a cheesecloth pouch, twist it shut and squeeze.
I've finally figured out how to make this moist without sogginess. My family loves carrot cake so I've made this recipe many times since I first found it. First, do what you can the night before and store ingredients in ziplock bags/tupperware. Grate the carrots, strain the pineapple, sift the dry ingredients, etc. The only things I added: 1/4 tsp each of nutmeg, allspice, ginger, and cloves, added 1.5x the vanilla and cinnamon, ½ tsp baking POWDER, and the zest of one lemon. I nuked the raisins in equal parts of the drained pineapple juices and rum. The raisins absorbed most of the liquids and were really plump and delicious. Save a few tablespoons to add to the cake. I didn't want to risk a dry cake so I compromised. I drained the carrots BEFORE I added the brown sugar. After the carrots sit for an hour, there will still be some liquid; add all of it. My cake ended up moist, flavorful, and TALL. Don't over-mix or let your cake sit too long. Baking soda reacts immediately so if you over-mix or leave it around, the gas will escape and your cake will be flat. Use the good pans. Line the bottom of your layer pans with wax paper or parchment paper. Better safe than sorry! To make a bundt, bake at 325 for 75-90 minutes. Use a cream cheese glaze: beat 4oz cream cheese with 2tsp vanilla and 2c powdered sugar. And 1-2tbsp milk/rum to get spreading consistency.
This carrot cake is the absolute best that I have ever made. I had many compliments on this. The cake is large and serves many. It only took 40 minutes to bake. I used my own cream cheese frosting recipe which I think is much better and has a richer flavor. It is as follows 1/4 lb. soft butter, 8 oz. cream cheese, 1 tsp vanilla and 1 lb. confectioners sugar.
Combine butter, cream cheese and vanilla, mix till blended. Add sugar and mix til smooth. Enjoy I do not think you will be dissappointed.
It was great! I baked it in a 9 x 13 cake pan at 375 degrees for 45 minutes.
I got rave reviews on this cake ("you should sell this for $8.00 a slice"), but I did mess with the recipe.
First, I scaled the recipe to 12 servings because of the comments about how huge the cake was. I used 2 9" baking pans and it made a pretty regular sized cake.
I used about 4 cups grated carrots, which was all of the carrots in the bag I bought and 1/2 cup less than called for. I replaced half of the oil with apple sauce and I replaced half of the pineapple with apple sauce. I also used wheat flour for a little less than 1/2 of the flour. I left out the raisins and I added about a tsp each of nutmeg, allspice, ginger and dried orange rind. I also doubled the cinnamon.
For the frosting I used 1/4 lb butter, 8 oz cream cheese, 2 tsp vanilla and 1 lb sifted conf sugar. Should probably have refrigerated it to let it set more before I transported it because it got a little slippy but not disastrous.
I took it to a 4 person dinner party and brought leftovers to work. People could not get enough. I was pretty happy since I not only never made carrot cake before, I had never eaten it so I wasn't sure how it should taste! Thanks!
My husband said this was the best carrot cake he has ever had!! It was extremely moist and delicious. Here is a little tip: I bought a five pound bag of carrots because I had no idea how many carrots I needed for 6 cups grated. It averages out to about 10 carrots, if that many. Overall, this was an excellent cake and a keeper in our home!
This is the carrot cake recipe I have been searching for. I made the recipe exactly how it was written, and I was able to make 12 cupcakes (35min. at 350degrees), and one 9inch cake (50min.).
Thank you Nan.
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Servings Per Recipe: 16
Amount Per Serving
Calories: 457
Calories from Fat: 181
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Lifestyle Changes to Manage Type 1 Diabetes
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- Fill half of your plate with fruits and vegetables .
- Eat whole grains , lean protein , and fat-free or low-fat dairy products.
- Avoid overeating by monitoring portion sizes.
- Choose low-sodium foods.
- Opt for water instead of sugary drinks.
- Give yourself a larger amount of nonstarchy vegetables. There are many kinds to choose from, such as spinach, carrots, broccoli, cucumbers, mushrooms, or peppers.
- Add a serving of starchy foods. Some examples include: whole grain bread, whole grain rice, cooked beans, peas, corn, and potatoes.
- Add a serving of meat or meat substitute, such as chicken, fish, shrimp, or tofu.
- Drink a glass of fat-free or low-fat milk with your meal.
- For desert, eat a piece of fruit.
Methods of Dietary Planning
- ½ cup of cooked pasta
- 1 slice of bread
- 1 small (3 oz.) baked potato
- 1 ounce of dry cereal
- Lowering blood sugar and improving the body's ability to use glucose—in some cases, regular exercise can decrease the amount of insulin necessary for blood glucose control
- Lowering risk factors for heart disease, a common complication of diabetes
When to Contact Your Doctor
- If you have any questions about your eating plan.
- If you feel that your eating plan is too difficult to follow.
- When you want to start up an exercise program or make significant changes in your present program.
- If you have any symptoms of hypoglycemia after exercising. Symptoms include shakiness, lightheadedness, extreme sweating, hunger, headache, and pale skin color.
Causes of diabetes. National Institute of Diabetes & Digestive & Kidney Diseases website. Available at: http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes. Updated July 31, 2013. Accessed September 4, 2013.
Create your plate. American Diabetes Association website. Available at: http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/planning-meals/create-your-plate. Accessed September 4, 2013.
Diabetes basics: Type 1. American Diabetes Association website. Available at: http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/type-1/?loc=DropDownDB-type1. Accessed September 4, 2013.
Diabetes type 1. EBSCO DynaMed website. Available at: http://www.ebscohost.com/dynamed.ebscohost.com/about/about-us. Updated August 9, 2013. Accessed September 4, 2013.
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Ross Brawn has affirmed that Mercedes do not have a 'number one' driver despite Nico Rosberg having to play second fiddle to Lewis Hamilton in Malaysia....
Ross Brawn has affirmed that Mercedes do not have a 'number one' driver despite Nico Rosberg playing second fiddle to Lewis Hamilton in Malaysia.
In the final stint of the grand prix, Hamilton has been lapping in third place with Rosberg fast approaching. The German requested permission to overtake, rightly stating that he was "much faster."
Rosberg, though, was told to hold station and the team finished 3-4 with Hamilton ahead of his Mercedes team-mate.
This raised questions as to whether the Brit, who joined Mercedes at the start of this season, had signed up with the guarantee that he would be the team's 'number one' driver.
Brawn says that is not the case.
"Of course Lewis wants to race - in the contractual negotiations we had with Lewis, never was the issue of who was 'number one' or 'number two' ever mentioned from his side," the team boss said on Sky Sport's The F1 Show.
"All he wants is parity - he wants the same equipment, the same opportunity and that is great that he has that confidence and that approach that he doesn't want favouritism - he just wants parity and I think that is what Lewis felt a little bit awkward about the situation."
Explaining why the team orders were issued at the Sepang circuit, Brawn insisted that while he doesn't like making those decisions, "from a technical perspective we would have looked very foolish if we had run both cars out of fuel.
"I think what wasn't fully appreciated at the time is that we had a situation develop on both cars with fuel.
"We weren't comfortable with either car and I could see a scenario with both drivers competing against each other, in a strong way, it is difficult to marry managing the fuel with a full blown fight with your team-mate.
"I didn't like having to give the orders I gave in Malaysia, it is not in my sporting nature and the team have demonstrated many times in the fast that we are very happy to let our drivers race each other - over the past few years we have often done that."
The 58-year-old was not the only member of the Mercedes hierarchy who was unhappy with the orders as Niki Lauda was quick to make his opinion known.
The triple World Champion told The Times: "From a sporting perspective, that was wrong. They should have let [Rosberg] go." Lauda added that he would "need to talk to Ross" and ensure that "this is the strategy to be used from now on."
Brawn, though, says when it comes to decisions on the pitwall, those belong to him.
"I had to make a decision from the pitwall about what we were going to do.
"Now Niki or Toto (Wolff) might not agree with it, but I had all the information, I had all the facts. I had what I feel was all the information to make that decision and they didn't and I think they both recognised after the event that it was the correct decision.
"I am clear to make the decisions that I need to make and I am quite happy to justify them and I will put my hands up if I have made the wrong decision. But somebody has to make those decisions - you can't have those decisions made by a group or a committee, there is no time.
"I won't get it right all the time - if I can get it right 70 percent or 80 percent of the time then I am doing well."


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Jack and Jill
Comedy, Romance
Jack Sadelstein is a successful advertising executive in Los Angeles with a beautiful wife and kids, who dreads one event each year: the Thanksgiving visit of his identical twin sister Jill. Jill's neediness and passive-aggressiveness is maddening to Jack, turning his normally tranquil life upside down.
Cast: Adam Sandler
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Directed by: Dennis Dugan
Written by: Steve Koren, Robert Smigel
Running time: 1hr 31min
Opens: Nov 11, 2011 Nationwide
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L.A. Fashion District Guide: Info, Tips and Where to Shop
The L.A. Fashion District is perhaps the premier shopping destination in Los Angeles for its bargains and trend-setting designs. The numbers can be intimidating: 90 blocks, 4,500 apparel and accessory lines, more than 1,000 stores. Here's a guide to get you started.