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The limestone and marble of Seneca County's new courthouse had barely settled in 1884 when county commissioners started squabbling with their hotshot architect.
A rising star of later 19th-century public buildings, Elijah E. Myers of Detroit was on pace to design 12 courthouses and more U.S. state capitols - five - than anyone. The latter mark remains unsurpassed as the 100th anniversary of his death arrives this week.
But as fast as acclaim grew for Mr. Myers' magisterial yet pragmatic designs, so did his reputa-tion for being querulous, litigious, and a bit of a dandy.
He had just seen the completion of the Seneca County's Beaux-Arts style courthouse in Tiffin, one of only two known Ohio commissions. Now, about a year after construction ended, Mr. Myers was sending his 25-year-old son to collect the balance of pay he believed he was due.
A Tiffin Tribune reporter described how the architect's son, George W. Myers, confronted the commissioners and proceeded to "lord it over them," asserting "that his and his father's time was worth a thousand dollars a day, and that they did not propose to fool any more of it away with consulting with common county commissioners serving on pauper pay."
The tough talk wrung from the county a $1,000 payment, from which young Mr. Myers proceeded that night to spend the eyebrow-raising sum of $75 renting out a local ice rink and hosting an impromptu dinner party with young men and ladies of society.
Elijah Myers, who worked under the name E.E. Myers, completed at least 80 buildings in his lifetime. Historians believe the true total may never be known.
Two days of events are scheduled in Michigan this week to commemorate the centennial of Mr. Myers' death and his architectural achievements. The itinerary includes two presentations in Lansing and a visit Thursday morning to his grave in Detroit's Woodlawn Cemetery, where a plaque will be added to his headstone.
"He has been forgotten for a good deal of American history," said Valerie Marvin, a Myers expert with the Michigan State Capitol Tour Service. "He did design more capitols than any American architect in history. And whether or not you liked dealing with him, people admired his buildings."
Mr. Myers' oeuvre included churches, city halls, schools, jails, opera houses, and private homes. He worked primarily in the midwestern and western states, with commissions as far afield as California and Texas.
Many of his earlier buildings reflected a Victorian Gothic style, and his later structures evolved to that of Renaissance revival and Beaux Arts.
"He basically worked in the styles that were popular in the era," Ms. Marvin said. "He liked to be called a practical architect; he wasn't a Frank Gehry necessarily."
Ms. Marvin said Mr. Myers' admirers believe his name lacks deserved recognition today because so many of his buildings no longer exist. More than half have met the wrecking ball, including Harper Hospital in Detroit, his city hall in Grand Rapids, Mich., and a courthouse in Stockton, Calif.
"We know of a dozen courthouses he built and six of those have already been demolished," Ms. Marvin said. "So once those buildings are gone, the memory of him fades with them."
Seneca County's courthouse is in danger of becoming one of the fallen.
Elijah Myers was born in Philadelphia in 1830. After early studies in law he left school to become a carpenter and joiner. He later may have studied architecture at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia.
His architecture career began in the 1860s when he settled in Springfield, Ill. He had built Illinois courthouses when he received his big break in 1871, with a winning entry in an architectural competition for Michigan's new statehouse in Lansing.
He moved permanently to Michigan while supervising the statehouse construction, which was finished in 1878.
During the 1870s he competed to design a new Indiana statehouse. When the initial competition proved a bust for all architects, the judges received a visit from Mr. Myers, as observed in the local newspaper.
"Myers began a boisterous tirade of abuse against the commissioners and experts. Myers said he would never again compete before the commissioner," the Indianapolis Journal reported.
A new competition was announced, and Mr. Myers competed again. After losing a second time, he unsuccessfully sued the commissioners, governor, and the winning architect, claiming elements of his design were stolen.
It was one of several lawsuits Mr. Myers filed during his career. A subsequent suit against his own attorney was decided by the U.S. Supreme Court in Mr. Myers' favor in 1914, five years after his death.
Mr. Myers designed capitols for Michigan, Texas, Colorado, Idaho, and the Utah territory. The Utah capitol was never built, and the Idaho building was torn down.
Because of disagreements, the Michigan capitol is the only structure of the four built that Mr. Myers remained under contract or saw through completion.
"People liked him initially, but he got a little wearing over time because he thought very highly of himself," Ms. Marvin said.
The federal government hired Mr. Myers as a building examiner for the Columbia Buildings at the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. He applied three times to be supervising architect of the Treasury, a post overseeing all federal building projects, but was never chosen.
He gained international recognition with his designs for a Brazilian parliament building in Rio de Janeiro and an insane asylum in Mexico City. However, it's unclear whether either structure was built, Ms. Marvin said.
While Mr. Myers was not credited with originating any new style, he was one of the first designers to add large domes to public buildings. His work was considered influential to other public architects of America's Gilded Age.
Still, architectural historians said aesthetics seemed secondary in Mr. Myers' career success.
"He was a talented designed but he was a wonderful speaker - very eloquent when he wanted to be, and was a great salesman," Ms. Marvin said. "He served as the frontman for his office, so he was the one who did the traveling, who did the promoting, and that was probably what he was best at."
Mr. Myers also drew admiration for his appearance. During a visit to Atlanta, a reporter observed how Mr. Myers' "head was covered with a suit of iron-gray hair. His dress was faultless black, and his shirt front showed the sparkle of superb diamonds, and his hat was what the southern man terms a black slouch, style militaire."
Following years of high living and cross-country travel, Mr. Myers was said to be nearly impecunious at the time of his death. Yet he did donate money and work to charities, and was known for his fondness for children.
During construction of Michigan's capitol, a Lansing resident observed how the architect "wore a long sort of frock coat and kept his pockets full of peppermint candies which he passed out liberally to children he met. The number grew as his qualities became known."
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When my LO was a newborn, my SIL would constantly ask to come over. And I'd always redirect her to my DH, telling her that it'd be better if she came when he was home. Like I wanted her to sit there and stare at me nursing my son? So, she'd come and MIL would drag along, they'd spend time with DH and I'd simply stay upstairs in our bedroom with LO. But I didn't put my foot down right there and then and the visits continued till SIL got the hint and stopped asking to come visit. Thats when she got mad at me and now our relationship is a giant clusterfuck (I have a story here somewhere) and DH and I start therapy next week because neither one of us has an idea of how to set boundaries and keep MIL and SIL out of put personal space.
Please make sure you do something about it now, your MIL will from now on go thru your husband to get what she wants.
Ms Monkey + Mr Monkey = Sweet Baby Dragon 01/12
For me, a stipulation of ever having her in my home again would be an apology -- to ME -- for what she said. Your DH needs to be present for it as well.
I never understand posts like this. Someone is disrespectful to person A. They apologize for their behavior to person B, but say nothing to person A and don't ever plan to. Somehow, this counts as acceptable to person B and person A is expected by everyone to sweep it all under the rug and ignore her feelings. I mean, who cares how person A feels, anyway?
How is the above at all okay?
In this instance, an example if the FB pix. They said they didn't want that happening. It happened. They kept their mouth shut.
Her DH is one of those "but she's his grannnnny" people, still. Which is another piece of the puzzle. People who cling to such notions (and hope for miracles that change the sort of people they are) also say shit like "we need to be the bigger people" and "respect for elders" and similar. Happens in most cases.
There's a lot of pattern and thought to be broken for these people, including the OP. to date, they have allowed MIL to stomp. So the expectation from MIL is that it will continue. And if her DH clings to the "but she's his granny!" crap, it will eventually prove true for her.
"Releasing doves and a sushi station are not basic human rights." -- MollySaysWhat
My DH comes home for lunch and it was just him and his mother hanging out. A tad passive aggressive, but it did the trick since NOTHING else I said about unwanted visits worked.
She showed up and tried to guilt trip him (me? Because he told me later) that I don't like her. I told him, "nope! I don't because she's rude and thinks she can drop by whenever she pleases."
Stand up woman or keep bending over. Take your pick. It's not that hard. You go in to where he is and tel him he'd better cancel the visit. He doesn't make plans without checking with you first. If he refuses, tell him that you and baby are leaving and you will be scheduling a counseling appt.
How is the baby fed? Is it even reasonable to have the baby away?
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|44 weeks 18 hours ago
|Just out of curiosity, if the
Just out of curiosity, if the 49ers do indeed make the playoffs, how long do you think we can afford to wait? This is of course even assuming Harbaugh is interested, but let's say he expresses some form of interest: if they start getting hot and go deep into the playoffs, how long before we sit there and say "At this point, we just need a coach because we just have too much instability without one?" Would it really be worth waiting into late January hoping he'll be interested enough to leave, and then let what's left of the recruiting class completely implode?
I'm probably in the camp of saying if we can't get a straight answer out of him by the end of the regular season, playoffs or no, its time to move on.
But the fact that he hasn't directly come out at this point and said "thanks but no thanks" gives me some kind of glimmer of hope. Not a lot, but some, anyway.
|44 weeks 18 hours ago
|Come on, man. At this point
Come on, man. At this point you might as well start asking if Bill Belichek and Mike McCarthy want to be our coach.
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|I love basketball threads.
I love basketball threads. What a great escape from the circus show/looney bins that comprise our current football threads.
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|This is why we need a great
This is why we need a great coach to get in here. MSU is getting a little too cocky for my taste, and we need a coach that's going to put that trash back in its place.
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|Sweet.I can't wait for four
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|Ha...hahahaha. Good one
Ha...hahahaha. Good one
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|Good luck in the NFL, pal. If
Good luck in the NFL, pal. If you can't catch the ball here in college I have a hard time believing you'll be able to do it when you line up opposite NFL DBs.
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|That's the best they could
That's the best they could do?
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|Take a year off, Hoke. Lick
Take a year off, Hoke. Lick your wounds, go do some traveling with the family, and re-evaluate what you did well here and what you didn't.
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|Oh boy. If he comes here,
Oh boy. If he comes here, people will treat him like Rodriguez 2.0.
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|I think that's going to prove
I think that's going to prove to be a good pick-up. Not a home-run hire, per se, but that might not be what they need. Wasn't too long ago that recruits have to try and remember his offenses tearing up the SEC with the likes of Trent Richardson and Julio Jones.
As long as he can get a competent DC, I think Florida will be in business in a year or so.
|44 weeks 1 day ago
|We're going to hear
We're going to hear conflicting reports until 1 of 2 things happen:
|44 weeks 2 days ago
|Even if Nuss, Mattison and
Even if Nuss, Mattison and Co. were allowed to speak with recruits, what can they honestly say to them? All of them are simultaneously faxing out their resumes at this point anyway, or in Mattison's case, likely looking for a retirement nest egg. It'd be one hollow, awkward conversation.
|44 weeks 2 days ago
|If Harbaugh wants to stay in
If Harbaugh wants to stay in the NFL, it's entirely within his rights to do so, and I wouldn't hold it against him for one second.
|44 weeks 2 days ago
|Miles? Maybe.Harbaugh? As
Miles? Maybe.
|44 weeks 2 days ago
|Gardner. Class act all the
Gardner. Class act all the way.
I really hope someone gives Gardner a shot in the NFL. I don't think he'd get drafted any higher than the 6th-7th round, if at all, but he's got some good potential. I hope he can land somewhere like the Pats, Broncos or Packers, hold a clipboard for a while and really learn from an elite QB. I've always wondered what Gardner would be able to accomplish if he had the right coaches.
Those ND, OSU and Indiana games last year showed us that his good is really, really good.
|44 weeks 2 days ago
|Do we have popcorn ready?
Do we have popcorn ready?
|44 weeks 2 days ago
|Horford? Maybe, but probably
Horford? Maybe, but probably not.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Meh, at this stage I wouldn't
Meh, at this stage I wouldn't want him either. Hasn't really accomplished anything except showing he's a good recruiter. But it would be pretty hilarious to give Tennessee one more reason to hate Michigan.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|It's amazing, this basketball
It's amazing, this basketball coaching staff is essentially the polar opposite of our football staff. Beilein brings in modest to decent recruiting classes, but man oh man can he develop talent. He knows talent when he sees it, and he oftentimes sees it when no one else does.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|No Schiano. The guy couldn't
No Schiano. The guy couldn't win the Big East so I'm curious why anyone would think he could come in here and challenge Meyer/Dantonio for the Big Ten title. He built a pretty solid program at Rutgers, but did he really ever win anything aside from meaningless bowl games? That, and I'm from Tampa, so I have no desire to come in and see Schiano destroy both of my teams.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|So now do we have to worry
So now do we have to worry about Spike leaving early for the NBA, too?
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Watching OSU get manhandled
Watching OSU get manhandled by Louisville just warms my heart.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Someone needs to hide these
Someone needs to hide these reports from Irvin and LeVert. Having them back next year for another potential Final Four run would be flipping fantastic.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Schiano is a poor man's
Schiano is a poor man's Harbaugh. He's every bit of a hardass as Harbaugh is, but doesn't win anywhere near as much. He never won the Big East, and any time his team got close to doing it, it fell flat on its face.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Good game, but Syracuse
Good game, but Syracuse literally gave Michigan that game with all those turnovers. The ending could've gone much differently, but hey, a win is a win. Especially after a day like today.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|It remains to be seen if
It remains to be seen if Doyle will have McGary's level of talent, but I think he'll certainly be able to match his level of energy.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|If that's going to happen,
If that's going to happen, you and I know that'll depend on two things:
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Or that could mean Schiano,
Or that could mean Schiano, who is literally doing nothing right now.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Today is poetic justice for
Today is poetic justice for RichRod. I mean yeah, he made his share of bonehead moves here, but Michigan sabotaged his tenure here really before it ever began.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Addazio wouldn't be a bad
Addazio wouldn't be a bad hire. He's a disciple of Meyer and, all things considered, has done pretty well at BC. He undoubtedly has southern recruiting ties, and his offenses won a couple national championships at UF.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Great moment in a season full
Great moment in a season full of shit. Stinks to think about how Gardner's Michigan career will be defined by what could've been, but he was a great kid and one could never question that he gave his all to this program.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Thanks for the effort, Brady.
Thanks for the effort, Brady. Sorry your dream job didn't work out, but hopefully you can take some time to lick your wounds, go travel with your family, and get away from the game for a while. I'm hoping you can come back and coach somewhere next year.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|I'm okay with this. This
I'm okay with this. This gives time to Hoke to tell the players of his fate himself. I'd rather they not hear it from a tweet or Sportscenter, and they deserve to be the first to know anyway.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Defensive guru though he may
Defensive guru though he may be, the guy's an asshole who essentially told his players to go out and rip Denard's head off.
Even if he didn't do that, I'd really like someone with HC experience.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Better to know now than
Better to know now than stringing ourselves along until the end of December.
Just find the best candidate that wants to be here. I don't really care who that is at this point. Even if we got Harbaugh, this board would be on red alert ever December-January wondering what NFL team was going to try and pluck him away.
If Hackett can bring in someone who knows how to develop talent, can win football games, and preferably knows how to recruit the south, then I'm all for that person.
No retaining Hoke, no Schiano, and I'm good.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|If Hackett lays down the axe,
If Hackett lays down the axe, and its hard to believe that he wouldn't, one has to feel somewhat bad for Hoke. The guy has his dream job, and now its very likely going to be taken away from him. I can't imagine Hoke got much in the way of sleep last night.
That being said, when you don't perform, sometimes changes need to be made. I don't doubt for one second that Hoke brought 100% of his effort to the job every day, but if he does get the axe, I really wish things did work out for him. He seems like the perfect guy to lead Michigan. But at the end of the day, results matter. And he isn't getting them.
|44 weeks 3 days ago
|Ehh, I just really have my
Ehh, I just really have my doubts about Harbaugh. Had he won the Super Bowl two years ago, I think he'd be more enticed to come back, since he'd have nothing left to prove in the NFL. I bet he feels like he's got some unfinished business in the NFL, so I would not be the least bit surprised if he goes to the Jets or the Raiders next year. His only problem with those teams might be that he'll have some serious rebuilding to do in both situations. I don't know if he'll be able to replicate the immediate success he had in SF.
All I can hope for is that he's just come to the conclusion that no matter what NFL team he goes to, his style of coaching will wear thin after 3-4 years, and that college is where he belongs. But I won't blame him for one second if he stays in the NFL. The lure of the Lombardi trophy is hard to resist.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|I didn't, but Tech has a
I didn't, but Tech has a pretty good team this year so it's somewhat more excusable. I doubt they will, but it wouldn't shock me to see them beat FSU this weekend.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|If Mark Richt was ever going
If Mark Richt was ever going to leave Georgia he would've done it by now. The only way he's leaving Athens is if he retires or gets fired.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|I'd love to have Sean Payton
I'd love to have Sean Payton too, but you can't seriously consider him a candidate, can you?
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|Isn't his contract until
Isn't his contract until 2019? And I'm assuming that with 4 years left on it, the buyout could be pretty hefty, no?
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|I don't want Schiano within
I don't want Schiano within 1000 leagues of our program. Sure, he'd ben an upgrade from Hoke, but that's not saying much. In my opinion, he'd be like Bo Pelini: a guy who's good for 8-9 wins a year, but falls flat on his face when presented with an opportunity to make a national statement. Never accomplished anything at Rutgers, and was a disaster in Tampa, so I don't see why he'd do anything of note here.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|Just no Schiano. We'll be
Just no Schiano. We'll be looking for a new coach in 3-4 years. He'd be a step up from Hoke, but he's not going to beat Meyer or Dantonio. That alone will be enough for people to want to fire him in a few years.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|Seems about right, maybe even
Seems about right, maybe even a little high. I trust Beilein to get the most he can out of Doyle, Donnal and Bielfeldt this year, but until proven otherwise, our 5 position is still one big question mark.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|Free Fallin' by Tom Petty.I
Free Fallin' by Tom Petty.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|I'll still pay attention and
I'll still pay attention and likely go to a game or two next year. But I'll enter next season with extremely minimal expectations. Like, get to a bowl game kind of expectations.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|Sheesh, the kid just can't
Sheesh, the kid just can't catch a break. If its the second tear, it might be time to start considering hanging up the pads. I know that's not what he'd want to hear and I certainly wouldn't blame him, but 2 ACL tears in 2 years, and he might be risking permanent damage if he goes any further.
Im no doctor, but it might be something he'll want to consider.
Best of luck, Drake, and thanks for all the time and effort.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|Is anyone really surprised?
Is anyone really surprised? Schefter is just telling us what we all know, but don't really want to hear.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|I wouldn't be surprised if
I wouldn't be surprised if Freeze will also be running away from potential NCAA violations at Ole Miss.
|44 weeks 4 days ago
|Too shady? Do you remember
Too shady? Do you remember who Florida's coach was before Muschamp got there?
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|And yet we sit around with
And yet we sit around with our thumbs up our asses, waiting to properly evaluate Hoke, because it's allegedly the "right thing to do."
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|Really liked this season so
Really liked this season so far, but I can't say I didn't see something like tonight's ending coming. Either way, it was a good mid season finale, and overall, in back on track with liking the show,
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|DC - yes<br>HC - hell no
DC - yes
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|His talent would've been
His talent would've been wasted here under Hoke anyway. Good luck to Garrett, whether he ends up at Penn State or wherever.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|Regardless, what has Nebraska
Regardless, what has Nebraska really accomplished under Pelini? A Gator Bowl win over an injury-ridden Georgia team?
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|I doubt there's anything
I doubt there's anything "personal." Pelini couldn't win championships and had usually 1-2 games a year where his team got humiliated. He's been there 7 years (I think), and it's been the same result every year.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|I get where they're coming
I get where they're coming from, but when you take an unbiased look at Nebraska and the current state of its program, Pelini needed to go if Nebraska was going to move on any further.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|The guy looks like he got his haircut from Lloyd Christmas.
The guy looks like he got his haircut from Lloyd Christmas.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|Meh, I'm over it. Until
Meh, I'm over it. Until proven otherwise, Michigan football can't have nice things.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|Bucs did it with Gruden. They
Bucs did it with Gruden. They paid a king's ransom for him, but it was worth it. It got them a Super Bowl. If a team thinks Harbaugh can win them a Super Bowl, they'll pay through the nose for him.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|Bama boosters paid Saban's
Bama boosters paid Saban's house off. I think its safe to say they want him.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|I don't know if this team was
I don't know if this team was worse than the '08 team, although its certainly close.
But if she's taking everything into consideration, from the athletic department fiascos, Frank Clark's situation, dwindling attendance, and everything in between, then yes, this could possibly be considered the worst season ever.
Everything that could possibly go wrong for this team did go wrong, and the things we thought couldn't possibly get worse indeed did get worse.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|I doubt he'd make a lateral
I doubt he'd make a lateral move to leave MSU. Unless it was an NFL DC position, which really isn't a lateral move, but anyway, I doubt he leaves MSU for anything other than a HC position.
Now that Nebraska's open they might go after him, but the last time they got a hot shot DC as a coach, it didn't pan out so well.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|Depending on Clark's legal
Depending on Clark's legal situation, he could go anywhere from 4th round - undrafted, with the latter being more likely. He always showed flashes, but was never anything remotely resembling consistent. I think he'll get picked up by someone eventually, but his NFL career will be a short one.
Ryan might have a shot with a team, and he'll probably go somewhere from the 5th-7th round. Good, hard-working guy, but I don't see him going before Day 3.
Funchess will get drafted somewhere in the 3rd-4th round based solely on potential. If he ever rounds to form, he can be extremely dangerous, but too many dropped balls and just disappearing in games for me to want to take him any higher than that right now.
I may be missing someone, but everyone else, in my opinion, won't get drafted.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|If Nebraska fires Pelini for
If Nebraska fires Pelini for never doing worse than 8-9 win seasons, there is ZERO excuse to not fire Hoke.
But great. Now both they and Florida are getting head starts. We desperately need Harbaugh now, because I'm afraid if we don't, we'll be settling for the third-best candidate out there.
|44 weeks 5 days ago
|Even if they got into the
Even if they got into the playoff, what makes you think they'd win anything with Cardale "Don't Play No School" Jones?
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|I think he'd retire before
I think he'd retire before going to Columbus. But everything else has gone against Michigan this year. Why not this too?
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|It all fell short of
It all fell short of expectations, every last piece of this team. The offense sucked. The defense was average at best.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|Tough break for the kid but I
Tough break for the kid but I refuse to feel sorry for anyone else associated with OSU, especially their fans. They're all a spoiled bunch who don't know what football struggling really is.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|Sounds like a lot of moral
Sounds like a lot of moral victories to me.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|ND will be 7-5 tonight and
ND will be 7-5 tonight and Holtz will still believe they should be in the playoff and would beat Bama by 50 points.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|Minnesota last won the Big
Minnesota last won the Big Ten in 1967. If they win tonight, and Barrett is out next week, they have a legitimate chance to win the Big Ten for the first time in almost 50 years.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|Come home, Harbaugh. We need you.
Come home, Harbaugh. We need you.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|I hate to say his legacy will
I hate to say his legacy will be tarnished with "what could've been," but he's got the kind of heart and mental toughness every player on our team should hope to emulate.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|Thanks for the effort,
Thanks for the effort, Gardner. You may not be the best QB, but you still deserved better from this coaching staff, and I wish everyone on this team had the amount of heart you have.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|Can him as soon as he gets
Can him as soon as he gets off the bus back in Ann Arbor.
|44 weeks 6 days ago
|This team lacks a lot of
This team lacks a lot of things. Speed is the least of our concerns right now. We need proper coaching first.
|45 weeks 5 hours ago
|I'll be there. Never been to
I'll be there. Never been to a game at the toilet bowl before, but I have to imagine that by this time tomorrow I will probably never want to go back.
|45 weeks 9 hours ago
|Jesus this year couldn't get
Jesus this year couldn't get any worse for Michigan football. We're on the eve of getting our asses thoroughly kicked by OSU. Again. Meanwhile, our former disgraced coach is tearing the Pac-12 up and is likely competing for a conference title in his third year there. As happy as I am for RichRod, I have to wonder what Michigan did in the past to so thoroughly piss the football gods off that they've put us face-down in the gutter like this.
|45 weeks 10 hours ago
|I'll be at the game tomorrow,
I'll be at the game tomorrow, although at this point I don't know why.
|45 weeks 11 hours ago
|His guys made plays here when
His guys made plays here when they were playing baby seal defenses. Whenever we played a competent defense like MSU's, and especially OSU's, the offense looked atrocious.
|45 weeks 11 hours ago
|Overall it was a pretty good
Overall it was a pretty good trailer. That soccerball robot was kind of weird, and not something I'd not normally use to get people excited about a movie. But I'm not JJ Abrams.
|45 weeks 11 hours ago
|I'm not criticizing, but I'm
I'm not criticizing, but I'm just curious: why does everyone hate the prequel trilogy so much? Of course it's not better than the original trilogy, but aside from Jar Jar, what is it about the prequels that everyone hates so much?
|45 weeks 12 hours ago
|I would never compare Tebow
I would never compare Tebow and Rice. Tebow isn't in the NFL because he's a terrible QB and refused to consider the idea of changing positions. Rice isn't in the NFL because he decked his wife.
|45 weeks 12 hours ago
|If Schlissel tries to scale
If Schlissel tries to scale back athletics here, he'll lose a lot of support here very quickly. Virtually all support, and he'll have a new wave of students, alums and regents calling for his head. There's a culture here at Michigan of having excellence not only in academics, but also athletics. Schlissel knows how much money is brought into this university by way of athletics. He'd be a fool to throw that all away.
|45 weeks 17 hours ago
|Today is a good day solely because of this news.
Today is a good day solely because of this news.
|45 weeks 1 day ago
|Hoke will not resign. He's
Hoke will not resign. He's going to see this through to the bitter end either because he doesn't feel like he can walk out on the players, or because his head is so far up his ass that he doesn't know what's going on. I'm inclined to believe the former, though. Even he has to realize he's a dead man walking.
|45 weeks 1 day ago
|I understand NFL players not
I understand NFL players not wanting to be treated like college kids, but Harbaugh is a frickin' winner. 3 straight conference title appearances and 1 Super Bowl appearance. Shouldn't that be enough to get everyone from the top down to shut up and buy in? If they were losing left and right, that'd be one thing. But they're not. They've been the model of consistency over the past 4 years.
|45 weeks 1 day ago
|Don't kid yourself. A 3-loss
Don't kid yourself. A 3-loss SEC team is still making the playoff.
|45 weeks 1 day ago
|What else is Kaepernick going to say?
What else is Kaepernick going to say?
|45 weeks 1 day ago
|Herman would win that award easily over Mattison.
Herman would win that award easily over Mattison.
|45 weeks 2 days ago
|I'm Ron Burgundy?
I'm Ron Burgundy?
|45 weeks 2 days ago
|So Braden is being given the
So Braden is being given the responsibility of guarding Bosa?
|45 weeks 2 days ago
|Hire a good coach (preferably
Hire a good coach (preferably Harbaugh), stay out of his way, and continue bringing in money for the athletic department.
|45 weeks 2 days ago
|I wasn't referring to your
I wasn't referring to your post. I was referring to ihateMichigan's post about us finishing in fifth this year and Beilein being a whiner.
|45 weeks 2 days ago
|I'm sure you were saying the
I'm sure you were saying the same thing last year, troll, and Beilein probably wiped the floor with your team anyway.
|45 weeks 3 days ago
|Welp, shit happens. We should
Welp, shit happens. We should know that by now after barely beating FSU this time last year, and then losing to Charlotte. I have complete faith in Beilein to get this team ready to play to its full potential come March. A few takeaways:
|45 weeks 3 days ago
|So Gardner will get sacked 6
So Gardner will get sacked 6 times instead of 8?
|45 weeks 3 days ago
|Win or lose tonight, man do I
Win or lose tonight, man do I love watching a great Michigan team. They're not perfect by any stretch, but you can tell Beilein is one hell of a coach, and this team just does not quit.
|45 weeks 3 days ago
|Fuck the MAC
Fuck the MAC
|45 weeks 3 days ago
|All of the practices they've
All of the practices they've had this season have been great practices, but this week....oh, man...this is where our ability to practice finally peaks to its full potential.
|45 weeks 3 days ago
|I'll preface this by saying
I'll preface this by saying that I'm not getting my hopes up about Harbaugh. I don't believe he's coming until he shows up at the podium with a copy of his signed contract and proclaims himself to be our next coach. I need that kind of proof. But I'll go ahead and bite....
Jim Harbaugh turned an NFL team that had been losers for a decade into Super Bowl contenders in one year. I'm not saying the same would happen here, but there's no reason that it couldn't. Barring a mass exodus of transfers, if he shows up there's no reason we can't compete for a conference title next year. All the talent is there to do it, and Harbaugh has shown he can turn things around immediately.
But here would be my expectations. First year, defense holds roughly status quo, and a marked improvement on the offensive side of the ball, especially at the QB position. Turn Morris/Speight into at least an effective game manager. O-Line is full of upperclassmen by then, so the line should be average to good, and with Green/Smith/Isaac, the running game should be good to very good. 8-9 wins, with a victory over either MSU or OSU, maybe a good bowl win, and I'd be happy to call his first season a success. I would give anything to watch Harbaugh do to Meyer next year what he did to Schwartz. Followed by a nice "Sorry I'm not sorry" at the post-game presser.
Second season is where I'd be hoping things really start to click. Maybe not a playoff contender yet, but the signs show we're getting closer to doing it. Again, at least one victory over a rival. QB position starts showing great signs, and Morris/Speight show the ability to take over games if need be. I'm hoping 10-11 win season and a New Year's Eve/Day Bowl Game invite.
Third season and beyond: Yearly conference title contender, semi-regular playoff contender, beating one or both of our rivals every year. We get back on even footing with OSU, and MSU starts showing signs that its getting put back in its place as the second-best program in the state.
Please, football gods, make this happen. Michigan has suffered enough.
|45 weeks 3 days ago
|Good. Crean is a total
Good. Crean is a total asshat. I'd be okay with him losing several more games like this.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|The season is very, very
The season is very, very young. And so is this team. We were having problems this time last year, too, and I'd say the year turned out alright.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|Wasn't pretty for much of the
Wasn't pretty for much of the night, but they got the W, and that's all that matters. But simply put, the team can't afford to have Walton and LeVert both go cold for much of the game and expect to win. Especially when it comes to conference play. But it's early in the season and this was the first real test the team faced. They'll undoubtedly get better as the year goes along, especially after going through a tough slate with Syracuse, SMU, and Arizona.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|This just is not LeVert's
This just is not LeVert's night. Happens to everyone now and again, but shots are just not falling for him tonight for whatever reason.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|These are the kinds of games
These are the kinds of games where we need LeVert and Walton to step up. Both have gone ice cold though. Doyle and consistent free throws are what's keeping us in this game.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|Calm down. This is an
Calm down. This is an extremely young team, and a lot of these guys are playing in their first "legit" collegiate game.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|Ugh giving up way too many
Ugh giving up way too many offensive rebounds to a team with no player taller than 6'7.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|2008 if I'm not mistaken.
2008 if I'm not mistaken.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|Call Bud Foster and ask for
Call Bud Foster and ask for his game plan. That's really all I've got.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|I will cry if Greg Schiano is
I will cry if Greg Schiano is our next coach. He is an extremely poor man's version of Harbaugh. Probably a homeless version.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|Alabama fans kill each other
Alabama fans kill each other over not being upset enough with a loss to Auburn. They also poison trees too. I'd say that's pretty serious.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|Irvin is making his second year Beilein leap. I like it.
Irvin is making his second year Beilein leap. I like it.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|My gut tells me that we can
My gut tells me that we can keep it close, because Indiana did last week, and they're basically as bad as we are. I want to believe that Hoke will empty out the playbook and, knowing this is the end for him, he will throw everything he possibly can at OSU in hopes of pulling out a miracle.
But its been gut-check time for him for weeks, and he's failed to respond. The defense might keep it close for the first half, but we'll be done in by horribly predictable play-calling, and a few all-too-familiar turnovers. It might be 21-10 at halftime, but the game will likely be busted wide open in the second half, something to the tune of 56-17. The defense just won't be able to hold anymore. Meyer knows he needs to pull out all the stops to get into the playoff. This guy isn't like Tressel, who would call the dogs off when the game is in check. He won't be afraid to debase and absolutely humilate us on national television. Meyer will channel his inner Woody, and will be the asshole that will go for two at the end of the game just because he can.
I will be at the game on Saturday. I was offered a ticket and I'll be damned if I don't support this team to the bitter end. But I'm already settling in for what will be a very long day.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|He may not be as bad, but
He may not be as bad, but perhaps the better question would be if he's much better. So far, we have no reason to believe he's better than Gardner in any way. It's a limited sample of playing time, sure, but nothing I've seen from Morris convinces me that he's that much better than Gardner, or any better at all.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|Great catch, but after seeing
Great catch, but after seeing Odell Beckham Jr.'s amazing catch last night against the Cowboys, Denard's catch will undoubtedly get lost in the tape.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|As you pointed out, this team
As you pointed out, this team will go only as far as whoever is playing QB can take us. Certainly a lot can change, but Morris has given us very little reason to believe (so far) he's going to pan out. Then again, with the right coaching (perhaps even Harbaugh's tutelage, if he comes here), Morris could very well live up to his recruiting ranking. The potential is absolutely there. But if not, maybe it'll be time to give Speight the reins.
The defense should be alright as long as we get a sound defensive coordinator. There's a lot of talented guys there with a lot of playing time and experience. The running back stable is filled, even with Weber decommitting. The O-Line will be full of 4-5 star upperclassmen who, with the right coaching, should finally start hitting their stride. It could be average, dare I say even good next year. Wide receivers could be good to very good with guys like Darboh, Canteen, Harris, and potentially Funchess if he comes back.
Again, most positions could turn out just fine next year as long as we get a good coach. The talent is all there barring any mass exodus of transfers. The problem is just that we have no QB right now, so that means we could go anywhere from conference contender to scraping by just to make a bowl game.
|45 weeks 4 days ago
|What difference would it have
What difference would it have made? Even if Maryland doesn't attempt a long field goal to put the game on ice, that still likely pins us deep in our own territory with under a minute to go. There was nothing about our offense on Saturday that had me convinced we could've gone the length of the field and tied the game.
It would've just prolonged the inevitable.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|He'd put the program in
He'd put the program in full-on Ricktatorship mode. I'd be okay with that.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|I don't want SF to implode,
I don't want SF to implode, but I'd like to see them go something like 9-7 to 11-5 and just barely miss the playoffs. But we'll need an answer from him as soon as possible, and obviously him going to the playoffs potentially derails any chances we have of getting him. At some point, we just need a coach, period, and we might not be able to afford waiting well into January for him to lose and then make a decision. I hope he coaches his last game with the 49ers on Dec. 28th, and then is standing at the podium at Schembechler Hall on New Year's Day, and proclaims to the Michigan faithful that "the losing stops now."
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|You ought to go back and look
You ought to go back and look at the tape of the MSU game. It may not have been as bad as last year, but they absolutely overpowered us in that game. It's likely OSU will do the same. Except Meyer will likely try to absolutely humiliate us. He'll be the asshole that goes for two when he's already up by 4 touchdowns.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|I want to believe Hoke will
I want to believe Hoke will empty the playbook, throw everything he can at OSU, and I want to believe his team will fight to the end for its embattled coach. But OSU is fighting to get into the playoff. Meyer will be aiming for style points, so don't be shocked when the final score reads 63-17 OSU.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|From what I understand he's
From what I understand he's been pretty solid for most of the year and starting just about every game.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|Either way, you can't tell me
Either way, you can't tell me this doesn't have the potential to get extremely ugly. The only way it could be close is if Nuss crafts the game plan of his life, the teams play like it has nothing to lose, and if, somehow, the team executes and doesn't turn the ball over.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|That's what I'm afraid of
That's what I'm afraid of too. Meyer will know he needs style points that convince the playoff committee OSU deserves to be in. I won't be shocked if he tries hanging 80 on us.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|So I'm sure guys outside the
So I'm sure guys outside the Greek system don't throw parties and take advantage of drunk girls, right?
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|Land Harbaugh and he can have
Land Harbaugh and he can have the position for life, for all I care.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|So where is Marshall in all
So where is Marshall in all of this? Aren't they still undefeated? Not saying they should be in playoff consideration, but how are they not ranked?
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|Legacy Jerseys should be
Legacy Jerseys should be taken away. Most important reason being that, save for maybe Jake Ryan, absolutely no one on this team deserves to wear the jersey number of our all time greats. Second reason being that its just one more way of seeing how this program lives in the past. Retire the jerseys and keep them that way. Let current players forge their own legacies with their own numbers. If Funchess stays, I hope whatever coach who comes in rips that 1 jersey right off his back and tells him if he wants it back, he's got to earn it on the field. Same goes for Countess.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|I don't care if he puts
I don't care if he puts sunflower stickers on our helmets. If he can win games, he can do whatever the hell he wants.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|These problems are all small
These problems are all small indicators of a bigger overall problem.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|Wait we don't play OSU in
Wait we don't play OSU in basketball for a while. Do we have a football game against them this week? Sorry, my memory of this football season is a tad hazy.
|45 weeks 5 days ago
|Trust me, it can always get
Trust me, it can always get worse. We could have an exodus of transfers once the new guy comes in, we could lose by 60 to OSU, we could hire another lame duck coach, like a Lane Kiffin or a Gene Chizik, that sets us back another 3-4 years, and our former recruits could flip to MSU and OSU. That last one would be huge psychological damage.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|I have a feeling that next
I have a feeling that next Saturday will be an epic beating. It'll be a fitting end to the Hoke era. Meyer will no that he needs to pull out all the stops to make the playoff. He'll make us his whipping boy in order to get there.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|None. Clean house. Blow the hole place up and start over.
None. Clean house. Blow the hole place up and start over.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Quit drinking and go to bed.
Quit drinking and go to bed.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Our players deserve better.
Our players deserve better. So much better. Especially guys like Gardner. I know Hoke wanted the best for this team, but he essentially shit on the legacy of every member of this team with his piss poor coaching and inability to coach and develop any member of this team.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Just bring in Harbaugh. I
Just bring in Harbaugh. I couldn't care less about what else you do. Just find a way to bring that man here. Whatever it takes. Whatever it costs.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Sucks, because you know he
Sucks, because you know he wanted so badly to succeed here, but sometimes life doesn't work out that way.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Godspeed, Devin Gardner. I
Godspeed, Devin Gardner. I hear Noah Spence is coming back next week.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Godspeed, Devin Gardner. I
Godspeed, Devin Gardner. I hear Noah Spence is coming back next week.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Can you blame him? I
Can you blame him? I certainly don't. Why come to this tire fire of a program?
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|No. Hell no. Give the man his
No. Hell no. Give the man his walking papers. Let him coach for his pride next week. I don't care if he wins by 40 next week. Let him walk.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|This team constantly beats
This team constantly beats itself. Same shit, every week.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Fucking figures. Norfleet
Fucking figures. Norfleet finally takes one to the house and its all taken back.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Atta boy Gardner. I hope
Atta boy Gardner. I hope that's the difference tonight.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Let Butch Jones actually
Let Butch Jones actually accomplish something of note at Tennessee and them we can talk poaching him from Tennessee.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|God just hates the big ten. I
God just hates the big ten. I don't know any other rational explanation.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Defense is playing well, but
Defense is playing well, but once again, this game is the ultimate derp fest.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|I know Minnesota beat us this
I know Minnesota beat us this year and I'm still not over that, but I'm happy to see them doing well. I'd love nothing more than to see them upset Wiscy next week, and then by some miracle, beat OSU in the title game.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|If Hackett can land Harbaugh
If Hackett can land Harbaugh he can name himself the next AD for all I care.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|OSU fans are so damn spoiled.
OSU fans are so damn spoiled. They're the #6 team in the country right now.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Tevin Coleman is my hero.As
Tevin Coleman is my hero.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|The fact that it's almost
The fact that it's almost halftime in the OSU Indiana game and OSU is only leading by 1 should give me hope for next week. But I already know this script. Even if we have a chance to win next week, we'll lose because Hoke will empty the playbook in the first half, and then go into his conservative shell in the second half, making us way too predictable.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|It's still a couple hours
It's still a couple hours before kickoff, but bad weather and a horribly mediocre product don't help the cause.
|45 weeks 6 days ago
|Ryan - His entire 2012
Ryan - His entire 2012 season. He was a one man wrecking crew that year. And his flowing golden locks made him look like Thor.
|46 weeks 14 hours ago
|So is there going to be a
So is there going to be a Feaux Stauskas twitter page a la Feaux Pelini?
|46 weeks 20 hours ago
|I know you're looking for
I know you're looking for bars, but before you leave New Orleans, you have to go to 1 of 2 places.
|46 weeks 1 day ago
|So this kid tests for ecstasy
So this kid tests for ecstasy twice, and could come back before the end of this season? Meanwhile, McGary tests for weed one time and is banned for the entirety of the next season? The inconsistencies of the NCAA are just as baffling as that of the NFL.
|46 weeks 1 day ago
|The temperature in Buffalo
The temperature in Buffalo could get as high as 57 next Monday. That city is going from snowed in to potentially flooded in a hurry.
|46 weeks 1 day ago
|We might lose some of these
We might lose some of these games, in particular the one at Arizona, but it makes this team so much better off in the long run. They'll be battle tested by the time the conference slate rolls around, and if the previous 2 years are any indication, the team will start peaking come March.
|46 weeks 1 day ago
|While the weather doesn't
While the weather doesn't help, people would still be showing up in droves if the team was winning.
This is what happens when you have a mediocre product.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|Even if they all stayed and
Even if they all stayed and were playing at full strength together, I'm sure everyone would still already be crowning Kentucky as the next national title winners.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|Didn't McGary just fracture
Didn't McGary just fracture his foot or something like that? He's been out for several weeks, and that injury could've very well happened when he was here had he come back for another year. He would've been out for at least the SMU, Syracuse and Arizona games, all of which we would've badly needed him in.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|This game is going to have
This game is going to have DERP written all over it.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|I hope Florida hires Schiano.
I hope Florida hires Schiano. Not because I wish any ill on their program, but I just don't want to have to worry about the idea of him coming here. If he couldn't win big games at Rutgers when they were in the Big East, I don't know how he can be expected to win big games anywhere else.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|Isn't he still in his
Isn't he still in his "show-cause" period or whatever it's called? Either way, I think Tressel has coached his last football game, and my guess is he's okay with that. He's moved on to other things.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|He makes Urban Meyer sit
He makes Urban Meyer sit alone eating more pizza. He wipes that shit eating grin off of Dantonio's face.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|Regarding your point about
Regarding your point about Ross, I agree. A) Miami is starting to win some games, so Ross shouldn't want to change his coach down in Miami. B) Even if he did, why would he ever try to undermine Joe Philbin in the middle of the season? That'd be a PR disaster waiting to happen.
I'm sure its more he'd rather have Harbaugh at Michigan because his NFL team is in no need of a new coach right now.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|I will not believe that
I will not believe that Harbaugh could actually be our coach until he takes the podium at Schembechler Hall and proclaims it to be so.
|46 weeks 2 days ago
|It's sad that instances like
It's sad that instances like these often get overshadowed by a meh football program, but this is just one more reason to be damn proud of our university.
|46 weeks 3 days ago
|If I had to boil it down to
If I had to boil it down to one singular moment, it was probably Shane-Gate. That was coaching malpractice at its finest. Completely disregard the atrocities happening on the field. Hoke's inability to protect his own players made me not want him leading this program anymore. But my faith in Hoke has eroded ever since Notre Dame 2012.
|46 weeks 3 days ago
|You've got to be kidding me
You've got to be kidding me on that 2 pt conversion call. While Borges should've changed up the play call, Hoke was smart to go for the win. There was no way we were going to outlast OSU in OT. All they would've had to do was keep feeding Hyde for easy points, since we couldn't stop the run all day. That call was arguably the smartest thing Hoke ever did here at Michigan.
|46 weeks 3 days ago
|Hoke isn't cut out for TV or
Hoke isn't cut out for TV or radio. Lovable personality, sure, but he doesn't come across as the brightest crayon in the box. I doubt he'd want to take any kind of NFL position. He wants to work with college kids, and I doubt NFL players would respond very well to his style anyway.
|46 weeks 3 days ago
|If he brings in Harbaugh, he will.
If he brings in Harbaugh, he will.
|46 weeks 3 days ago
|Personally, my top 4 right
Personally, my top 4 right now would be Bama, Oregon, Miss State, and FSU. I'm even hesitant to put in FSU over TCU or Baylor at this point. Florida State is undefeated, but they just look terrible in the first half of games. Its like the team is forgetting its playing a football game, and then it just wakes up and is able to out-talent the other team. I do give them credit for not folding under pressure, but come on: with the way they've been playing against teams that are far inferior competition to them, who honestly believes they wouldn't get destroyed by a team like Bama at this point?
I don't know, maybe FSU would rise to the occasion, but I just don't see it right now.
At the end of the day, as long as OSU is left out, I don't really care who plays for it all.
|46 weeks 4 days ago
|Maybe I'm one of the few, but
Maybe I'm one of the few, but its hard to not feel bad for Clark. Yes I know he's got the theft charge from a few years back on top of this situation, but I don't think he's inherently a bad kid. He's just made some poor choices, and this latest one is really going to cost him.
|46 weeks 4 days ago
|Simply put, yes. Dantonio
Simply put, yes. Dantonio does a hell of a lot more with (on paper) a hell of a lot less.
|46 weeks 4 days ago
|Didn't get to see the game,
Didn't get to see the game, but it sounds like Michigan let a bit of a lead slip away, didn't play well at the end or something Ike that. This team will be just fine, and I'd be surprised if we didn't make the tournament at the end.
|46 weeks 4 days ago
|"ur so smart"Says the guy
"ur so smart"
|46 weeks 4 days ago
|I'd be shocked if Mullen
I'd be shocked if Mullen wanted to come here. He had to see how the fanbase treated RichRod for not running an offense suited for the 1970s, and he'd probably have to overhaul the entire roster anyway.
|46 weeks 4 days ago
|That was the right choice.
That was the right choice. Hopefully Clark can get his head on straight. Although football should be the last thing on his mind right now, he likely just cost himself a LOT of money in the NFL. He went from possibly being a mid-round prospect to now likely being lucky to just get drafted.
With domestic violence being such a prevalent issue in the NFL right now, I can't imagine this would go over very well with NFL scouts or GMs.
On a broader note, there's just very little to cheer for with this team. Anything that can go wrong seems to go horribly wrong.
|46 weeks 5 days ago
|I understand what you're
I understand what you're saying, but his actions still reflect on the program. Its not Hoke's fault this happened, and it's certainly not any of the other player's faults, but Clark is a Michigan football player. His actions, whether good or bad, reflect the program. It's not indicative of the rest of the team, but its one more black eye for them to deal with.
|46 weeks 5 days ago
|Adrian Peterson is not of
Adrian Peterson is not of this world.
|46 weeks 5 days ago
|Its a curious thing. This
Its a curious thing. This program continues to find new levels of rock bottom every week.
|46 weeks 5 days ago
|Insert typical "Hoke is aware but not fully aware" quote here.
Insert typical "Hoke is aware but not fully aware" quote here.
|46 weeks 5 days ago
|Whatever chance we had at
Whatever chance we had at getting Mullen has likely gone out the window. Not sure that he would've come here anyway, though. We might have to start looking elsewhere, like Marshall's coach or something.
|46 weeks 5 days ago
|We didn't have anything
We didn't have anything resembling pass rush anyway. Either way, hope he gets the issue straightened out. I'm going to withhold real judgment until the facts are determined, but it's very likely he's played his last down for Michigan.
|46 weeks 5 days ago
|Keeping Hoke around is
Keeping Hoke around is essentially telling everyone that you're okay with mediocrity. Sometimes you have to make bold decisions for the good of the program. Hoke's presence to this team is toxic in the sense that he can't competently coach it. If you want him around longer, you're accepting of that kind of team environment.
|46 weeks 6 days ago
|I bet we still had an amazing
I bet we still had an amazing week of practice.
|47 weeks 5 hours ago
|In the words of Rick James:<br><br>That was....COLD BLOODED
In the words of Rick James:
|47 weeks 1 day ago
|No Princeton? Wow that's surprising....
No Princeton? Wow that's surprising....
|47 weeks 1 day ago
|I think Burke would tell you
I think Burke would tell you that he made the right choice in coming back. He likely would've been a fringe 1st rounder, possibly 2nd round pick had he left after freshman year.
|47 weeks 1 day ago
|It wouldn't be a pre-season
It wouldn't be a pre-season bracket if Duke didn't have a 1-seed....
|47 weeks 1 day ago
|Should help Donnal/Doyle
Should help Donnal/Doyle transition a little easier in that game. Would've been great to play them at full strength so our front court could really be tested, but we're going to get plenty of testing from Syracuse and Arizona.
|47 weeks 2 days ago
|Can't imagine him saying that
Can't imagine him saying that now. Maybe 4 years ago after he win the Rose Bowl. Now....not so much.
|47 weeks 2 days ago
|ESPN deserves the ridicule on
ESPN deserves the ridicule on this one. They honestly should've been able to come up with something better than ripping off Tosh. If whoever out that segment together knew anything about Tosh, they would've known he'd take a giant shit on them immediately afterwards. And it would be exponentially more funny.


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LAKELAND, FLA. (AP) - With his beefy frame and prodigious power, Prince Fielder doesn't look like a player who can simply blend into a lineup.
Somehow, the slugging first baseman did just that in his first season with the Detroit Tigers.
Fielder signed a $214 million deal early last year, arriving in Motown amid predictable fanfare. Then he hit .313 with 30 home runs and 108 RBIs in a Detroit debut that was largely devoid of drama.
With Triple Crown winner Miguel Cabrera hitting in front of him and Justin Verlander baffling hitters from the mound, Fielder's terrific production was almost overshadowed. And that's exactly how he prefers it.
"It's always good to be on a team when you have superstars who are cool guys. They know how to play the game," Fielder said. "Everyone here is a star, so it's not a big deal. I love that. The more attention off me, the better."
Detroit's pitchers and catchers went through their first spring training workout Tuesday, but the full squad doesn't start until later this week. Fielder appeared at a youth baseball field in Lakeland on Tuesday, joining around 100 youngsters for the unveiling of what was billed as the world's largest baseball card.
The card, created by the Topps Company, measured approximately 90 feet by 60 feet, leaving center field covered with the giant image of Fielder swinging.
That's about as ostentatious as it gets for Fielder these days. His violent, uppercut swing is in direct contrast with his persona. His goal each season is to be consistent and avoid major peaks and valleys.
That attitude may have rubbed off on the Tigers, who were a disappointment for much of 2012 but never panicked. They rallied late in the season to win both the AL Central and the American League pennant.
"I think it helped the team," said Don Kelly, an outfielder on last year's team. "He was pretty steady the whole time. He never got too high or too low. Just kind of stayed the same guy every day."
Perhaps that's why Fielder seemed so comfortable from the start. Some high-profile free agents might try too hard to have a big season after switching teams. Others might need time to adjust to new surroundings or opponents.
Fielder made the transition from the NL's Milwaukee Brewers look easy. His focus was on being the same hitter he's always been _ nothing more, nothing less.
"They brought you over here because of what you do, not what they want to see you do better," Fielder told The Associated Press in an interview at the baseball card event. "My thing is just staying consistent and being healthy, because when you're healthy, that gives you the best chance to be consistent because you're on the field."
The 28-year-old Fielder has eight years left on his contract with Detroit, so his durability will be important. He played 162 games last season _ the third time in four years he reached that mark.
Ever since he became a big league regular, Fielder has been loath to miss time if he's healthy enough to play.


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Diabetes Health Center
How Is Diabetic Nerve Pain Treated?
In this article
Over-the-Counter (OTC) Pain Relievers continued...
Lidocaine is an anesthetic that numbs the area it's applied to. It's available in gels and creams, both over the counter and by prescription.
Other topical creams. Salicylate is a chemical similar to aspirin. It's found in pain-relieving creams. Cortisone products contain corticosteroids, which are potent anti-inflammatory drugs that can help ease pain. Both are available at drug stores, but there's no clear evidence that they help relieve nerve pain from peripheral neuropathy.
Prescription Drugs
Many people need to turn to prescription medication to find relief.
NSAIDs are also available by prescription. They may be different doses or different drugs altogether from what's offered without a prescription.The side effects -- stomach trouble and greater chances of heart disease -- are the same as with other forms.
Antidepressants treat depression but have also become important in relieving chronic pain. They can work whether you're depressed or not. Those used to treat pain include:
- Tricyclic antidepressants, which affect the levels of the brain chemicals norepinephrine and serotonin. Experts say they're the most effective of the antidepressants used for pain. But they also cause side effects, like drowsiness, weight gain, dry mouth, and dry eyes. Blood pressure, heart rate problems, and dizziness can also happen with these drugs.
- Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), which work by altering the amount of the brain chemical serotonin. They're effective for depression but less helpful for pain.
- Serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs), which treat depression by boosting the brain chemicals serotonin and norepinephrine. They may have fewer side effects than the SSRIs or TCAs.
Antiseizure drugs, used to prevent epileptic seizures, can also relieve neuropathy. The drugs control the nerve cells in the brain and other parts of your body, such as legs and arms, that transmit pain. But they can make you dizzy or sleepy, especially at high doses.
Opioid medicines. When your problem is severe, you want immediate relief. That's when you should see a pain specialist. You might need strong medicines that contain a weak opioid (a morphine-like substance). These drugs also affect the brain chemicals serotonin and norepinephrine, similar to antidepressants, and reduce your feeling of pain.
Opioids can provide a better solution for "breakthrough pain" -- a kind that suddenly worsens for no apparent reason -- than OTC drugs.
Neuropathy specialists shy away from strong narcotic opioid medications. They can cause severe constipation, and there's a chance you could get addicted. There's also a stigma connected with using this type of drug. And depending on the type of work you do, it could be a problem.