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04-01-2003, 13:56
Here we go peeps, still liking this thread so much we get a third edition!!
04-01-2003, 16:47
Years from now, I'll tell my grandchildren, while they are reading the 100th edition of What Are You Drinking This Moment, that it all started on a whim, because I had nothing better to say that night I sat down at SB.com back in summer '02. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-01-2003, 17:11
You's da man, CL. Makes me ashamed that I'm drinking a Foreign Whisky right now. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif
I'll get back on track tomorrow; I promise.
BTW, in any "Longest Thread" competition, it's clear to me that you are entitled to add the results of all iterations of this thread. It's not your fault some of us have a crappy connection. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-01-2003, 19:15
We don't want to make the dial-up people wait so long for the thread to load. After all, it's a "what I am drinking" and what you is drinking might cause you to fall asleep while the thread is loading. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
04-01-2003, 19:37
Come on fellas, live life in the fast lane. Go broadband! Nothing beats a good bourbon and a fast connection!
04-01-2003, 19:41
Wild Turkey Rare Breed. Needed a full-bodied bourbon for my Hemingway and this fit the bill perfectly. Lots of tobacco and black tea notes with just a hint of clover honey. Wild Turkey is what all other distilleries dream of becoming!
04-01-2003, 19:42
I ought to get a little of the credit, as I'm sure I have posted about 500 of the total posts of these threads http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-01-2003, 19:47
Yes, you do deserve lots of credit. I only did the first post. The Bourbonian community did the rest, though, some more than others. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif Here's to you!
04-01-2003, 19:50
I do. And I'd go crazy without it. I even bought it for my parents since I started going there once a month. Mom is amazed how quickly I can find stuff and get answers.
But, my hat's off to those that still have dial-up. I wish I had their patience and tolerance. If I did, I'd have less stress and would hang around on earth a few more years as a result.
04-01-2003, 20:02
You're not kidding! I could never imagine going back to dial-up after switching some time ago. I was at my cousins the other night and they have dial-up (And to make it even worse, AOL! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif ). I was ready to go insane waiting for pages to load...
04-01-2003, 20:23
At the rate we are going we might make the 100th edition by THIS years bourbon festival. What can I say, we really like to talk about our booze! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Tom (sippin' KY Spirit) C
PS Jeff, you are just gonna have to wait for the tasting to hear my verdict. No hints now. . . .okay one, it is better than WT 101, thats for sure http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif .
04-01-2003, 20:27
In my case it is either getting broadband OR getting the good bourbon, and I think I have made the right choice (with my 56K) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif got to have the priorities in order. . . .I think that having the good bourbon around might be the largest factor in helping my patience out, BTW. . . .
04-01-2003, 20:32
Four Roses Yellow Label. Kind of on the light side for me, but Stacy not being as big a bourbon fan as I likes it. It is nice for a change though. Now I just wish it were available here in the NE so I wouldn't have to grab so many when I visit KY for her. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
Now their Super Premium, that I would love to see for sale here in the states...
04-01-2003, 22:29
I here ya. My broadband ($50/month) is paid for my company http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif so I can work at home. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif And I kind of misled you on my parents' broadband. It's only $25/month extra over their normal cable bill and we are splitting it among 6 kids. But, it WAS my idea. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif
04-01-2003, 22:55
Buffalo Trace, courtesy of my Mom who picked up some for me in KY in Jan. I finished off the old 1.75L and cracked open a new one. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif She loves me. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif
I hadn't planned on imbibing tonight, but after softball practice I needed it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif No, it wasn't stressful, but it was only my third practice after not playing for 7 years. The main thing was that I felt my timing coming back and I dove for two catches tonight. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif Yep, I caught them both. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif I played left field, so these dives are after a frantic run forward to get to the quickly sinking line drives. No injuries http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif but I sure am feeling it in my muscles.
Besides, rolling the odometer the second time on this thread is cause for a celebration, not because I lucked into the original idea, but because this thread gives us all a chance to let relax and just comment on what our drink for the night it. No formal tasting notes, no deep thought, just heart felt commentary. Who can argue with that?
04-02-2003, 00:08
Corner Creek. I don't understand this bourbon. It tastes like wheat! And I don't mean it tastes like a wheated bourbon, I mean it tastes like someone ground up some wheat and stuffed it into a bottle. I can't decide whether it's "interesting" or disgusting. It's weird. When I finish this glass, I'm moving on to Rare Breed to wash this taste away!
04-02-2003, 02:00
http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif Very cool CL ! A total of 6,638 thread views and 456 replys since you started it all. BLeeeeE! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
04-02-2003, 06:51
That's why I figured on getting the broadband as well... $20 a month for dial-up or $25 a month added on top of my cable bill... Easy to figure that one out.
04-02-2003, 07:48
See, sorry to ruin the reasoning guys, but I chose to get my dial up modem INSTEAD or getting cable. . . .LOL.
There isn't a StraightBourbon TV channel, so I think I made the right choice. . .
04-02-2003, 11:15
Evan Willaims Single Barrel. Or is it Old Charter 'Classic 90'????? A Heaven Hill bottle that just screams 'Bernheim whiskey'. Who Knows???? Eh? - Linn
04-02-2003, 12:19

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... we get a third edition!!
[/QUOTE] We inhabitants of the cyber-Stone Age appreciate it! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
I'd toast you right now, but I happen to be drinking orange juice. It just wouldn't be appropriate, somehow. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-02-2003, 15:28
Ready to take my first trip out to the new deck. TREX. Very cool. I have a bottle of Blanton's and a brand new Adirondack chair. Life is good.
(My contractor thought it was funny to hand my wife an invoice for $26K for the work yesterday. April Fools. She didn't even flinch. She handed it to me when I got home and said he wants the check tomorrow. I just about passed out. She said,"We did add a few things", Very Funny)
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04-02-2003, 22:08
I finished off my Elija Craig 12 year old, and I just had my first taste of Woodford Reserve. And I have a bottle of Blanton's that's just waiting to be cracked open for a special occasion. Like a Thursday. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-03-2003, 06:01
Definitely a good thing there isn't an SBTV. We are a fine bunch of folks here, fun to be with, etc., but I don't think I'd want to look at our faces all the time. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
04-03-2003, 07:47

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Like a Thursday.
Thats The Spirit!
04-04-2003, 17:56
Old Grandad BIB. It really is amazing to me that in less than a year I have gone from one who only really liked wheaters to someone who would really enjoy the most ryed bourbon on the market. Good stuff, and only $13 to boot http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif
04-05-2003, 06:17
It seems to me that the rye spiciness in thosebourbons take a little more time to grow on you that the wheated ones smoothness (which seem initally more accessable IMHO), so maybe your findings are consistant with that, although I think I have come to appreciate the intricacies of wheated bourbon that I wasnt sure was there in the same year. Hmmmm. . .
PS OGD BIB makes a really good Manhattan,
04-05-2003, 13:06
Yeah Tom, it took me a helluva long time to start to appreciate wheaters. I am completely smitten with the 20 year old Pappy Van Winkel. That is one great bourbon. Too bad it's $80 a bottle and 500 miles to nearest liquor store that has it!- Linn
04-05-2003, 16:37
Wild Turkey Rye, neat, in my Glencairn glass.
I've been guzzling so much of it lately mixed with Ginger Beer that I decided I needed to find out what it really tastes like before the bottle is empty. As I sip it, I keep thinking that it tastes like OGD BIB on turboboost, very much the way I expected OGD 114 to taste (which it didn't).
On a side note, I've tried various full-bodied bourbons with Ginger Beer, and their flavor just doesn't come through to the extent that rye does. The custom of mixing rye and ginger is more than just a tradition, it seems. It really is a match made in Heaven.
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-07-2003, 18:19
My first bottle of the Fox lasted a mere two months. I have said it would make a perfect summer bourbon, but it also goes very well with Italian sausage, mozz chees, peppers and onions, which is often on my low carb menu. (That meal is also why I can't stay stocked in Wathen's or Old Fitz either.)
So, after finishing off the Fox, it's onto what started this thread in the first place, Elmer T. Lee SB. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
Time to go watch Six Feet Under that I recorded last night on HBO. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-08-2003, 05:36
The only premium Bourbon Sam's Club (one of my favorite stores since I'm such a cheapskate) sells locally is Woodford Reserve, so I picked up a bottle. I found it to be a very dissapointing spirit. It has a slightly medicinal taste and unimaginative pallatial complexity. Or maybe I was just in a sour mood because the Kansas Jayhawks tanked. Interesting bottle though...
It burns me knowing now that for the about the same amount of money I could have gotten Wathen's, which seems to be turning into my favorite-- but one needs to broaden ones horizons and try new stuff, in the quest for knowledge.
04-08-2003, 14:29
This evening I am drinking Blanton's. I have always liked it. It is on the light and dry side,but has a wonderful taste of the barrel and vanilla,in just the right proportions. It is a very easy whiskey to like and enjoy
04-08-2003, 15:38
Different strokes....
I have both and I prefer Woodford Reserve to Wathen's. I suspect I'm in the minority on this one, though.
04-08-2003, 17:01
No you're not Tim! I love Woodford Reserve. Wathens is good for what it is , but at the same price point I know exactly where Woodford Reserve was distilled and aged and where it was bottled. I also have met the master diastiller and trust him to provide a stellar product. I drink Woodford Reserve with confidence that it is a superior product. As much as I would like to say that about Wathen's I can not. I met Charles Wathen Medley and his son Sam the first year I attended the Bourbon Festival in Bardstown. They skipped town just as fast as they could, and didn't bother to advance their bourbon. The Walthen's website has been untouched since it was first put up with many areas still under construction some five years later. Very poor. Pitiful.
04-08-2003, 17:09
Hirsch 16 and Hirsch 20.
I was hoping to have something meaningful to say as to how they compare. Unfortunately, at least for that purpose, both of these bourbons are better than I am. I am not worthy to critique either of them.
All I can say is that the 16 is a little more assertive in the nose, with a gentle zest that carries over to the palate. The 20 shows its additional age, but not to the point of tasting the slightest bit woody. Some might say that it has become too subdued, but I love its deep, dark, tantalizing nose that makes me keep poking my nose farther into the glass. I'm torn between taking small sips because it's so expensive and so rare versus drinking it in large gulps because it is so delicious and so totally without any harshness of any kind.
On the basis of simple drinking pleasure the 20 can't possibly be worth three to four times today's price for the 16. However, I give it a slight edge as the more enjoyable of the two to my pedestrian taste.
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-08-2003, 17:45
We must have been reading each others mind today Dave! While out today I happened across a place that had 1 last bottle of the 20 at a 'decent' price so I decided to treat myself and do the same thing you did; Have pours of both the Hirsch 16 and 20 and simply enjoy the evening.
The 20 does, as you said, show it's additional 4 years of age but in such a fine way. It is so smooth, that you can soon forget how expensive it is and keep pouring yourself another glass.
I almost want to make myself like the 20 more because of the rarity of it and older age, but something still makes me lean ever so slightly towards the 16. I think it's just that extra bit of 'sweetness' I get from it. But no matter what, these are 2 bourbons I will always enjoy, and miss when they are all gone...
04-10-2003, 19:51
Knob Creek. While at Meijer's Party store to pick up a bottle of Cabernet for Leslie I was checking out the meager bourbon selection. I had intended on picking up a replacement bottle of Maker's Mark, but something changed my mind. It was the calling of the Knob Creek bottle. It whispered, "I'm not all bad, give me another try." The one thing I have always liked about knob creek is the bottle. I figued it would be nice to add a full-sized bottle to my collection, so I bought it. I don't know if it is because I am half sick, but tonight it tastes nothing like the battery acid to whick I have once likened it. Leather and vanilla dominate with some cinnamon and all-spice on the finnish. I will wait till I am healthy to pass final judgment on this bottle, but tonight I am getting significant pleasure from the 'Creek.
04-11-2003, 06:32
I had a similar experience. As it involved the same bottle I know that it had to do with me and time. At first Knob Creek had an acrid and soapy flavor. A real turn off. I put it aside ,and a few months later I tried it again and it was rich and complex and a delight. Maybe I am becoming a more mature boozer
04-11-2003, 18:53
Way to go, Jeff. You can't be wrong all the time, either! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-11-2003, 19:27
Old Charter 12 yo, "The Classic 90."
This standby belongs in everyone's bunker--a tried and true bourbon that earns its nickname.
In many markets, the Old Charter brand--at least in all of its variants--is hard to find. I've had to mail order the 8, 10, and 12 year olds, while the 13 yo Proprietor's Reserve, which dates from the United days, was more widely distributed and can still be found for around $30. At half the price of the PR, however, the 12 year old is just what is professes to be--a classic.
04-12-2003, 05:54
I have thought about it and it seems that KC is the only Beam bourbon that I drink with any regularity.
I also like the Booker's very much, but it is just not worth $50 to me. I occasionally order it when I find it at a bar. When I want to spend $50, the only things on my list are Blanton's and Kentucky Spirit.
I don't enjoy Baker's at all. It is drinkable, but to me, it is the one with the dry, chemical taste.
I have never tried JB Black or Basil Hayden. JBB is so close in price to KC and I know I like KC, so that is what I buy. Somebody's "brown vodka" comment here on sb.com probably turned me off of BH, untasted.
I cannot drink JB White. I don't understand how anybody can. I admit that I haven't tasted it in many years, though - it was bad 30 years ago!
04-12-2003, 09:31
Tim, IMHO Jim Black is the same ol' mashbill as Knob creek and it hasn't gained the sophistication of KC with it's extra proof and age. Basically if you like Beam you will like JBB. As for Basil Hayden's , I think it's better than some think, I know it could grow on me, an acquired taste thing. I decided this in the Beam Home at Clermont having a drink of it at Jim Beam & companies expense. So here is where the real ( for me anyway ) problem lies, I'm not going to pay 33 bucks for 80 proof Bourbon. Or at least not very many times( I did pay something like that for the IW Harper) I have ample water sources available to me. Who was it that said ," What's the point of shipping all that water all over the Country"?
On a related note, I get a newsletter from Liquor Barn each month and they are getting geared up for Derby. They lifted a line from and didn't acknowledged the source, But Always Fine Bourbon, about Country Ham and Beaten Biscuits. I guess someone there has read a good book about Bourbon, Which is good!
04-12-2003, 11:23
So Tim your point is that you love and purchase and enjoy Knob Creek, as do I along with many other folks making it the number one selling ultra-premium brand of straight bourbon. I love it too. As for the other's let's just let God sort 'em out. - Just Linn -
04-12-2003, 12:31
An excellent summary as usual, Linn.
Thanks, Tim
04-12-2003, 13:17
Old Fitz BIB.
Film at 11:00.
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-13-2003, 17:56
I tried KC again tonight and again it was a decent drink. I still think that it is a far departure from the Baker's and Booker's that I still enjoy much more. Made for a nice pre-cookout pour.
04-13-2003, 17:59
Old Charter Proprietor's Reserve. This is quickly becoming one of my favorite pours. Full-bodied with caramel and taffy notes accentuate a cardamom and allspice twang. Nice pair for a Hemingway Signature Cigar http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
04-13-2003, 21:14
Wild Turkey Russell's Reserve. Lots of flavor.
04-13-2003, 23:13
Jefferson's Reserve. I've never had this bourbon before, and at $50 a bottle here in California I've held off until now, but my curiosity got the best of me today so I bought a bottle. While I like to taste a bourbon a few times before making a definitive decision, I'm liking it a lot so far. It's got a big, solid taste, although not too complex in my book. Also very smooth. Let me have another pour and see if it holds up...
04-14-2003, 17:50
Weller Centennial 10 yo. I cracked this open last night (an acquisition from Binny's during my Chicago trip this past weekend). I thought that I hadn't ever tasted anything like this, but I really liked it. I gave it a go again tonight. Same smooth, yet invigorating flavor as last night.
In the tasting forum recently, Bob described the flavor as as apples, but I had thought of something sharper, perhaps maple. Bob also mentioned licorice. I thought that the flavor had that pungency, but was sweeter, hence, my maple flavor. Jeff had just bought a bottle, but he hasn't posted his impression yet.
In any case, I am all of a sudden interested in Weller. I had long ago tasted the Old Weller Antique version and instantly disliked it as too harsh. Hence, I had not rushed back to this label. But, the Centennial version is very good and might just make be a 2nd string pickup when I visit a state that carries it.
2nd string is nothing to be ashamed of. It is still desirable, but I will buy 2nd string only if I have room in the return luggage (or if my better half is not on the war path about my bourbon spending). I always make room for first string, e.g., ORVW bottles or Wathens, spouse be damned. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
04-14-2003, 19:47
Old Grandad BIB. I thought, when I first purchased this bottle, that it would be interesting to try some, but that it would soon make its way to the back of the cabinet. Not so! Lots of rye kick with a little peppermint and clove added for more spice. I think I am getting hints of green apples, or maybe pears. Not sure so I'll drink on 'till it comes to me http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-14-2003, 22:33
I too am drinking the Weller Centennial 10 y.o. right now. And I agree with you about the maple flavor...I detect that too. This is one good wheater!
04-15-2003, 11:58
George T. Stagg Lite (aka, "Rock Hill Farms").
Does anyone else detect a strong family resemblance here?
I hadn't drunk RHF for quite a while because I was saving the last few ounces for possible comparison with other bourbons. Today's the day.
Someone here once called RHF "rocket fuel". However, compared to GTS it is quite gentle. I can flood my tongue with it without overloading my sensors. Doing the same thing with GTS would bring tears (not of joy) to my eyes.
Man, this stuff is good! I think I'll try a one-on-one with Kentucky Spirit while I still can.
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-15-2003, 12:27
I take an opposite view. To me GTS tastes unlike most of the BT bourbons that share that green, earthy taste. I believe that Ken Webber stated that GTS is from Masbill #1, unlike RHF which is #2 IIRC. Even when I dilute my Stagg with a little water to bring down the proof, I don't get any resemblence. Of course I get strong similarities between RHF and ERSB, to which you have stated your disagreement.
04-15-2003, 12:40
I really need to do what you did -- add water to GTS -- and then revisit the matter in a side-by-side comparison.

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Of course I get strong similarities between RHF and ERSB ...
[/QUOTE]I'll earmark some of my remaining RHF for that comparison, as well. I know very well that my memory plays tricks on me.
It looks as though I'm down to less than four ounces in this bottle. I guess the comparison to KS will have to wait. (The only place I've seen RHF in SoCal, it was almost $50 http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif . I may get another bottle the next time I order from Chicago.)
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-16-2003, 18:02
That's an interesting observation. I'll have to look at to see if I get the maple impression next time around. I also think that the Weller Centennial is quite good!
04-17-2003, 19:32
Old Forester 100-proof.
I bought a 1.75L of this, Saturday. I have had it 5 of the past 6 evenings. I believe I have an "everyday pour". At $31 for the big bottle, that is the equivalent of about $13.30 per 750 ml. Not a bad deal for a pretty good whiskey.
04-20-2003, 05:52
Last evening, I had Jim Beam Black. I can't make up my mind with this one. Sometimes I think it's pretty decent, at other times I don't enjoy it. Last night, it was good.
04-20-2003, 12:38
It's like bologna and Hot Dogs, Pretty good if you're hungry , but not too good right after a nice TBone! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Bobby( Eating more Bologna and Hot Dogs than Steak here lately!)C
04-20-2003, 16:41
You got that right Bobby! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif
04-21-2003, 19:18
Wild Turkey Kentucky Spirit. What better to undwind with after a 5 mile run tonight? Just as good as ever! I think I could finish a marathon if I knew a bottle of KS would be waiting for me at the end http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-22-2003, 17:44
The last of my first bottle of EWSB '93. This bottle has been good to me, so I'm sure I will pick up another. Might even try the '92, as it can still be easily found.
04-24-2003, 22:28
My first tastes of Old Charter Proprietors Reserve. There will be time fo a tasting later, so I will just say that it is quite enjoyable http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif .
04-25-2003, 16:07
I don't usually imbibe at lunch, but the other guys "forced" me to match their beers, so I had Knob Creek at my favorite bar (KC is the best they have).
On the way home, I stopped by the ABC store to add some local flavor to my liquor cabinet. I was draining too much of my out of state stock. I only meant to buy Old Forester 100, but there have been a few posts about Blanton's this week, and I haven't had it in a while, so I said, what the heck. It's sitting right beside me in a snifter now.
I showed my wife the "B" on the stopper, but she wasn't amused. She thought I was about to go off on a hunt to buy a bottle for each letter. Silly, girl. She doesn't realize that all I care about is what's IN THE BOTTLE, not what it looks like. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
04-25-2003, 16:19
Kentucky Spirit (finally) and Elmer T. Lee! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
04-26-2003, 07:24
Last night I had 17 year old Eagle Rare. The worrds that kept jumping in my head while drinking this were "polished" & "refined". . . this is one sophisticated drink.
04-26-2003, 10:25
I have only had a couple of drinks of this stuff, but I am very impressed. I see a bottle in my future soon. And now with word that its all bottled, I might have to bunker some. (I love "bunker" as a verb http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif )
04-26-2003, 11:27
Last night, I was looking in my mini-bunker for something a little different. Finally, I reached way in the back and pulled out my dwindling bottle of Old Grand Dad 114. Poured myself a stiff one on the rocks and sat down with my book.
It was so good. Very full bodied and flavorful, I enjoyed every drop. I wish I could just drive over to the ABC store and replace it, but I will have to go out of state again to get it.
I finished off my evening with a very small (about 1/2 oz) Grand Marnier 150th Anniversary. Yum.
04-26-2003, 21:22
First pour ever for Stagg...see "tasting" impressions...good but powerful stuff. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
04-27-2003, 15:27
The last drink from my Old Fitz 1849.
As I was taking the last couple of sips, it brought to mind ORVW 10/107 in spite of the difference in proof and probably in age, as well. I may have to pick up another bottle of the 1849 just so I can do a one-on-one comparison.
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-27-2003, 17:53
No, not OFBB, but my birthday bourbon. I got a bottle of 16 yo Hirsch for my birthday today. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Ok, I bought it two weeks ago in Chicago for myself for my wife to give it to me on my birthday. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/blush.gif It's not often that I go over $50/bottle, but this was one of those rare times.
I wanted to post my tasting impression, but I just wanted to relax and savor it. I didn't want to have to think. And I didn't want to drink more of it - I didn't want to put a big dent in it as it's my only bottle. I will say, though, that it does have a unique character. Also, it was much smoother and more mellow than I expected. I thoroughly enjoyed it. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
My wife also made me a very nice gift. She bought bourbon labels off Ebay, matted them, and framed them. She made two frames. Once we get them hung in my home office, I will snap a photo and share it with you.
04-27-2003, 18:52
After a weekend spent with the inlaws, where such an overt display of self indulgence would surely be frowned upon, I am having a glass of Weller 12yo and smoking a Punch Rothchild. I will state now and for the record that Weller 12yo is the best value bourbon in the world. No question!
04-28-2003, 18:52
Here are the two frames of bourbon labels my wife may for me for my birthday. She did a wonderful job, didn't she? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
04-28-2003, 20:26
Does that say Beans Best ? The pants rating is history, But that's got to be at least 4 or better! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-28-2003, 20:58
Bern's Best, Meadow Springs Distillery, Meadowlawn, KY.
Most of these labels are from various distillery names located in Meadowlawn, KY. There is some info in Sam Cecil's book on RD #39 in Meadowlawn and the brands produced there, some of which I have in these frames, e.g., John P. Dant, Old 1889. But, I haven't had time yet to decipher all the distillery names to see if they are all RD #39, though some are like Old Boone Distillery, Meadowlawn Distillery, and Old 1889 Distillery. These bourbon folks sure weaved a very tangled web that will take me some time to untangle.
The Ebay seller claimed that all these labels are original and not reproductions. RD #39 ceased operations in 1977, according to Sam Cecil, so it does seem plausible that the labels are authentic.
But, I really don't care if they are authentic or if they were on great bourbons. The labels are a great conversation piece and a view into part of bourbon history.
04-28-2003, 22:32
Having a bottle of Old Buckeye bourbon would rock! (Being the state tree of Ohio and all, as well as Ohio State's Mascot, brutus). I am jealous of the label even. . .
04-29-2003, 04:33
They sell some of these labels at Heartland Decanters . I don't think there is a strong trade in fake Bourbon labels yet. BettyeJo could tell you more, I was in the label room at HH and it is impressive. They have piles of each one( and Hundreds of different labels) and you could imagine that if a brand was dropped , the labels would live long unless they were destroyed. Now every one knows they don't have hundreds of taste profiles or mashbills, so in with the dogs and cats. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-29-2003, 12:02
Beautiful. What a sweet wife you must have!
04-29-2003, 14:17
Ancient Ancient Age with a little ice. I had a really rough exam today, so I poured myself a loooonnnggg drink.
04-29-2003, 14:39
Do you get the 10-year old or the 10-Star?
04-29-2003, 14:49
This is the ten-year-old kind, I think (the only description on the bottle is "Full Ten 10 Years Old" right under the name, on a gold label, 86 proof). It's pretty damn good for a ten dollar bottle.
04-29-2003, 14:58
Yes, I used to drink that about 30 years ago. It was 90 proof, then. All I can get now is the 10-Star, which most of us agree is not nearly as good.
Thanks, Tim
04-29-2003, 15:21
Henry McKenna Single Barrel (#170, barreled on 11/19/90).
This may be my new favorite Heaven Hill whiskey -- or maybe I'm merely in a very gracious mood this afternoon. After I get to know this one better, I'll take a stab at posting mini-notes. My first impression is that it's somewhere between EC 12 and my bottle of EWSB '92, which is almost exactly what I was hoping for. A self-fulfilling prophesy, perhaps?
Note to Bettye Jo: The extra steps that go into the bottling operation for this one must be either a source of pride or a source of aggravation -- maybe both. Was that particular shade of green (of the felt) selected for its similarity to the color of bluegrass?
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
04-29-2003, 17:45
AAA 10yo is one of the best bargains out there. I used to drink it a lot. The was during the BS period. (Before Stagg) http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-29-2003, 17:49
In an attempt to recreate my epiphany from last night, and to celebrate Jim's news that Stagg will become a permanent fixture on bourbon shelves, I poured the last of a bottle. Good as ever though the magic hasn't begun yet. I think I need to pop open another bottle, hold on...
Oh hell yeah!
04-29-2003, 20:53
Is Heartland Decanters in Lebanon, KY? I found a reference to them with Google.
Then I went to Ebay to look for bourbon labels. There's a person from Lebanon selling nearly the same batch of labels that my wife put in my frames. (I am at my parents' and its late, so I can't ask her if that's the person she bought from.)
I wonder if there's a connection?
04-29-2003, 20:56
Yes, she is. I was quite surprised.
04-29-2003, 21:03
Well, I wasn't going to tip a bottle tonight. But, after reading about Weller 19 yo going away, I just had to crack open the bottle I coincidentally bought this evening in WV on the way to my parents'.
My allergies kicked in with the change of location, so I don't know if I have all my senses. But, the Weller tastes unlike anything I've had before. It's very interesting and I really like it. I just can't figure out yet what I like about it. I'll see if my allergies calm down tomorrow and check it out again. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-29-2003, 21:42
It's in Lebanon Junction Ky. Thats about 8 or so miles from Clermont. I posted a link somewhere in here in the past. Google heartland decanters should get to it. They have some neat stuff there and reasonable, I would expect prices to be firm during the Festival. however.
Side note, I may grab another Weller 19 , It isn't a favorite of mine. When Linn pointed out that it had already been passed over by Mr. VanWinkle, well that sort of started the downhill slide. It is interesting and probably worthwhile,I feel kind of unenthused for this one.
04-29-2003, 22:00
Found Heartland via Google this time. The first time I tried "Heartland Decanters" with the quotes. The quotes are what did me in. The second time, I did the search without the quotes and got to their web site. On the web it is called Heartland of Kentucky Decanters and Steins.
Heartland of KY (http://www.ka.net/heartlandky/)
I also went back to Ebay and saw that the seller I mentioned earlier is also from Lebanon Junction.
I guess I have been down I-64 too many times and just dropped the "Junction" without thinking. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif I know now that Lebanon Junction is off I-65 and is different from Lebanon off I-64. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
04-29-2003, 23:28
Van Winkle Old Time Rye. The past few nights, I've been having a pour of bourbon followed by a small sip of rye, specifically the Van Winkle. I used to be not so keen about rye, but this stuff has really changed my mind!
04-30-2003, 17:36
I'm drinking some Booker's, with lots of water and ice. I got a bottle of this stuff for my birthday, and I had a few nips mixed with just a little ice that night. It can really sneak up on you that way! Leads to some interesting betting at poker.
05-02-2003, 12:33
I've been pretty busy lately and haven't been around. I'm catching-up on this thread and saw your post.

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Old Grandad BIB. It really is amazing to me that in less than a year I have gone from one who only really liked wheaters to someone who would really enjoy the most ryed bourbon on the market. Good stuff, and only $13 to boot
You are walking the road my son, and it is good...
I'm a wheated fan myself. But, now and then a really good high rye knocks my pants off... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif Have you tried OGD 114?
Since you live in Kentucky, you most likely have been drinking Bourbon from the beginning (remind me to tell you about a 'Sugar Tit' for teething babies...lol). But, if you're like me, you've only really began tasting it since you joined this group.
The bottle in my cabinet at the moment is Old Weller Antique. Looks like it's going to rain on the Kentucky Oaks but, other than that, life is good.
Can you say Derby Par-Tay!!!!
05-02-2003, 12:55
No, I haven't tried OGD 114 yet, but it looks to be my next bottle. Some here have said that they don't really care for the higher-proof OGD. What is your impression? Yep, I've been drinking bourbon for a number of years, but only tasting it for a couple and only REALLY tasting it since being here!
05-02-2003, 15:01
EWSB '92 (in preparation for a side-by-side with Henry McKenna SB in the next day or two). I immediately recalled the following, although it took me a while to find it:

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When I suck in a big sniff, I get something sharp and green, like the aroma of freshly peeled bark and the underlying green wood -- as when trying to break a branch from a silver maple tree in mid-summer.
I wrote that in regard to Evan Williams 7 year-old. I guess there really is a family resemblance, at least to my taste.
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
05-02-2003, 20:58
AMEN, BROTHER! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
05-03-2003, 20:20
GTS. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif It's been a few weeks since I've had GTS - I had to slow down on the consumption of it so it would last. Dang, is this the best elixir on the face of the earth or what? (Give me an AMEN, Bobby!). I know I've said it a million times before, but this is the nectar of the Gods.
Tasting GTS got me thinking about Julian's upcoming cask strength ORVW. After I found out about it being barrel proof, I had consigned myself to getting just one bottle. But, now, I am wondering, what if it is in the same class that only Stagg occupies? I mean, Julian's other products are fantastic, but what if the cask strength takes it even farther? Will I be happy (bourbon-wise, not wallet-wise) with only one bottle? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/confused.gif
You know, though, when these are the decisions that occupy your mind, your life is pretty damn good. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif
05-04-2003, 06:38
Don't Fight It ! Answer The Call Brother, Amens from all corners! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
05-04-2003, 18:30
Tonight it is 15yr 107 ORVW.....aaaaahhhh!
Life is good ,,,kids are in bed asleep ,,, wife to ,,, I will soon follow ..much work to do tommorrow ,,,, But tonight it is some of VW's finest...
Bill G.
05-05-2003, 19:29
Once again, Weller 12yo. This is one of only 2 bourbons that I have been drinking the last week or so. The other...you guessed it, GTS. People listen to me, this bourbon is not just a good drink at a great price. Weller 12yo can rival any of the bourbons in the $30-$50 range with few exceptions. It's that good.
05-05-2003, 23:05
Hey Jeff,

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Some here have said that they don't really care for the higher-proof OGD. What is your impression?
Actually I like it. If I sit down with rye, I expect a little sting. I prefer a higher proof. Not sure why really. Wheat is for the kicked back, rye (to use one of Linn's expressions) is a party in your mouth... :grin
Have you tried the Weller 19 year old? I like it very much. Linn and others aren't as impressed but, they are rye guys. Drinking my way thru some of the great wheated Bourbons, has helped me realize what a 'one trick pony' Makers Mark really is. Their marketing is brilliant, their Bourbon is ok.
05-06-2003, 08:10

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Have you tried the Weller 19 year old? I like it very much. Linn and others aren't as impressed but, they are rye guys.
I know I am not Jeff, but I Love Weller 19. A Lot of the "rye guys" mention that it was passed over by Julian VanWinkle as part of the reason they are not fond of it. I would have to say that just because It was passed over in becoming the ultimate expression of wheated bourbon, takes nothing away from it to me.
Tom (Jeff If you havent, would you try this, I am curious to you opinions as well) C
05-06-2003, 08:15
Well, I guess with a definite quantity of this stuff available, I am going to have to bite the bullet a pick some up. I'll let you know when I do. Do you liken it to the style of say Weller 12yo or the Antique? Funny how I adore the 12yo but detest the 107 proof. I don't know if it is a function of age or proof, but if it is age, the 19 ought to be just fine!
05-06-2003, 08:22
I havent had the 12 year yet, next time I got to a reds game it is on the list to get. I think of it as more in the line of Weller Centennial. Less fruity that Weller 7/107 and more obvious caramel/vanilla/molasses, with a good does of woodiness, but in a very good way!
05-06-2003, 11:29
Hey Murph,
I'm so tickled to see the Weller 19 finally getting the play it deserves. Actually, I'm glad to see this renewed interest in wheaters.
Jeff said:
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detest the 107 proof. I don't know if it is a function of age or proof
[/QUOTE] I have a bottle of the Antique here. While I can't say I detest it, it is unlikely I will buy it again. I'm thinking this fruity-ness is really a result of not enough time in the barrel. A young taste that I don't like, and the proof intensifies it. Wonder what it would taste like with 5 or 6 more years on it? Is that what the 12 yr old is?
05-06-2003, 12:04
I checked out the site, they sure make a case for the empty decanter... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
I have to ask ya'll (and I realize there will be those of you that wonder when I'll be getting a life, but I swear it was on my first click, just a random thing... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif ) Anyway...what the hell is that thing in the lower right hand corner of page 75 in their 'Showcases'? It's wearing a red jacket, and humping something better discussed in other forums... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif Does anyone have any idea who actually bottled something that looked like that? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Just curious,
P.S. I64 will take you from Charleston, thru Lexington and up to Louisville. It doesn't run to Lebanon. Could you be thinking of Hwy. 68? That's a really cool scenic drive, and you pass right by Gravel Switch...home to some of my heritage... http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
05-06-2003, 13:01
Old Fitz BIB -- the last of my second bottle.
You may recall that I found my first bottle undrinkable. The finish literally made me gasp.
Either I've gone from wuss to hardened drinker in one year's time, or I had a tainted bottle before. Based on the second bottle I'd call this a no nonsense, working man's (or woman's) bourbon -- a little rough at the finish, but with a very appealling nose and palate. Nevertheles, I still prefer the 1849, which sells for the same price at my favorite local liquor store.
(I really intended to do a one-on-one with EWSB '92 and Henry McKenna SB today, but I decided I wanted to relax, not concentrate on flavor elements and descriptive terms.)
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
05-06-2003, 19:12
My mistake on a Lebanon on 64. I thought I had seen such a sign on 64 a while back, but obviously I didn't!
05-06-2003, 19:28
Beej, before you say that it's us that keeps drawing all the dirty pictures, You've got a dirty mind! That almost makes me want to drive over and have a look for myself. That is at Lebanon Jct, instead of Lebanon. I65 exit 106 or so.
05-06-2003, 23:45
I totally love the Weller 19 yo. I also love the Van Winkles. They're all great wheaters! I find it interesting that someone would disparage the Weller 19 yo because Julian took a pass on the barrels. The flavor of the Weller 19 is definitely different from the Van Winkles...not necessarily better or worse, just different. A little drier, and woodier. Maybe the reason Julian passed on these barrels is not because they're not great whiskey, but because they didn't fit the particular taste profile he was looking for in the Van Winkles. If you're looking for a Picasso, you would probably take a pass on a Rembrandt. Anyway, if you haven't tried the Weller 19, I strongly recommend it, before it's all gone! It's my favorite bourbon at the moment. I've already bunkered my supply.
05-07-2003, 16:10
While trying to clear some room in my bunker, and I use the word loosely, I decided to finish off the last of a bottle of Heaven Hill 6yo BIB. It has been a while since I have had any of this, but I remember thinking it was better than I had expected, and it is again. Getting some powerful corn notes with a good dose of leather and hay. Kind of smells like a freshly mowed lawn. Really good bourbon for the price; about $7 here in Lexington.
05-07-2003, 16:32
Sounds good, Jeff. I wish they stocked it here.
05-14-2003, 16:17
Sh*t! This post almost rolled over to page 2. What's up with you all! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
Tonight is Weller Centennial. I love this stuff. This is even more refreshing as it is my first drink in five days (losing weight). I wish I could get Centennial here in NC. The bottle I have is from my trip to Sam's about a month ago.
I need to do a side-by-side with the Centennial and the Weller 19 yo I got a couple weeks ago in WV. I have a feeling, though, the Centennial would win because of its unique flavor. But, that's not a given. When I put it side by side with the 19 yo, who knows?
05-14-2003, 16:25
Be careful with that "side by side" stuff.
I did it with Kentucky Spirit and WT 12 y/o during the Super Bowl, and Kentucky Spirit has never seemed quite as good as it once did ever since.
The real problem there is that the supply of the superior (to my taste) bourbon is finite.
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
05-14-2003, 19:57
Basically I'm too cheap to remove the shrink wrap from the pewter stopper in my one and only bottle of KS. I did make good on a few good chugs of it with Jimmy Russell himself a few weeks ago. I like the 12 YO better. And now for the nugget, Jimmy says it is even more finiter than before. " There's not much of the 12 yo left " says Jimmy. So I guess we need to acquire a taste for Russells Reserve. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
05-16-2003, 16:40
Old Weller 12 yo, my first bottle, bought this afternoon at Liquor Barn on Hurstborne Lane in L'ville. I am in town to help out the family and, even though I put Liquor Barn way down on my list, my relatives took me there first cuz they know me all too well. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/laugh.gif I've only had a few sips so far, but I do like it. I taste a resemblence to the Weller Centennial, which is a very good thing.
I also picked up Weller Centennial, my first bottle of Old Charter Classic 90 12 yo, Wathens, BT, and, of course, ORVW 10 yo. Of course I wanted to buy more, but we'll see how much I can take back on the plane with me. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif
05-16-2003, 19:48
Buy it man, buy it! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif Fly it man, Fly it! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
05-16-2003, 20:20
Ok, you can come with me and explain it all to my wife. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/crazy.gif
05-17-2003, 03:00
Interesting that you are having your first taste of Weller 12yo while I was having my first taste of the Centennial. So far so good! Nice body and flavor, though I think I might like this on a littler better at say 90 proof vs 100.
05-18-2003, 16:49
Old Forester 100 proof. I was reading back over some of my previous posts and came upon one where I declared this bourbon to be my favorite. Well, a lot has happened since then (i.e. Stagg, Birthday Bourbon, Pappy), but this is still one of the great bargain treasures of the bourbon world. Definately in my top 10, maybe even 6 or 7.
05-18-2003, 18:36
Drinking with the wife tonight and watching that Rumrunner's show on the History Channel. We've been switching around between Basil Hayden's, Elijah Craig 12 YO, Four Roses yellow label, and Ezra Brooks 15YO Single Barrel. She can't keep up with the high proof stuff yet, but tonight my winner by far was the Ezra Brooks SB 15 YO. Marvin, you've got great tastes. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
05-20-2003, 10:44
Pappy 20 yo! I am visiting relatives in L'ville and working during the day from my company's local branch office in L'ville. The other guys in the office and I went out for lunch on Monday at Harper's on Hurstbourne Lane, just north of I-64. What a bourbon selection! I saw the selection behind the bar on the way to our table. Normally, I don't drink at lunch, but this was too good an opportunity to pass up.
I went (I thought) straight to the top. Pappy 20 yo. The waitress said they recently had a tasting there and that she really liked the 12 yo. Now, this is what I call service. I was floored. I am not used to wait staff that know bourbon, even in KY.
After she brought my drink, she mentioned that they also had the 23 yo. I was only having one drink, so I said, I'd get the 23 yo on my next trip. She said that Harper's (where we were) and the Oak Room in the Seelback Hotel in L'ville were the only places in town that had it.
She also mentioned that Harper's and the Oak Room had a friendly competition to see who had the best bourbon selection. I told her to get one up on the Oak Room and get a bottle of the Sam's Pappy. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif Then I realized I should not have told her so Bourbonians can buy more. But, heck, she was cute and I wasn't thinking straight. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
05-20-2003, 14:06
As I type, Evan Williams Single Barrel just purchased today. It's been a while since I enjoyed it. In the cupboard, WT Kentucky Spirit, Beam Black, Elijah Craig 12 YO, OGD BIB.
05-20-2003, 15:07
Old Commonwealth -- my third drink from this bottle. (Thanks to Julian for the info that this is the same as ORVW 10/107, albeit at an even more attractive price. I couldn't resist adding a couple of bottles to my last order from Binny's.)
My first two drinks from this bottle were in the evening, and I was disappointed; the experience just wasn't as enjoyable as I remembered the ORVW bottling to be. This afternoon the taste is both familiar and quite enjoyable.
I used to label some milder bourbons as "afternoon" drinks. Now I'm beginning to believe that I appreciate all bourbon more in the afternoon. Fortunately I am free to rearrange my daily schedule around my drinking preferences. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
Yours truly,
Dave Morefield
05-20-2003, 18:11
I'm having my first taste of George T. Stagg.
05-20-2003, 18:29
No, No, No! You can't just say "I'm having my first taste of George T. Stagg." and leave it at that. As is tradition in these parts, you must rant and rave of its merits. Any less will get you a public flogging. Try again and put your heart into it http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
05-20-2003, 18:36
On my way to the airport in L'ville, I stopped by Hooray's to see if they had any more WT 12 yo left. I was going to pick up a bottle if they did and offer it up for trade with my fellow Bourbonians. But they were closed until 6 pm! Primary elections in KY today. I never knew about such a law.
Is this KY or federal law? I've never noticed it in NC, but then again, I am never in a bar or liquor store during the day on election day.
But, I had time to stop by Hooper's for that 23 yo Pappy. Unfortunately, there were out. It had been depleted the previous weekend. But, the bartender said it didn't matter. He couldn't serve alcohol until 6 pm! (It was only 4:30 pm.) I said I am from out of state so it didn't matter, but he didn't buy that. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif
The bartender had just come on shift and the previous one was going off shift. They both saw I knew bourbon, so we talked for a while about it. It turns out that the waitress I had at lunch the day before was exagerating. While Hooper's does have a large selection, they are well behind the Oak Room. They did mention, however, that Julian stops by occasionally to chat.
Oh well. The good news is that I found a good spot to hang next time I visit the relatives.
05-20-2003, 19:35
I don't know who else has that law , It is specifically to keep politicians from buying votes with a drink. No one has ever tried to buy my vote http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif
05-21-2003, 05:12
In Pennsylvania, all liquor stores (which are all owned and operated by the state) are closed on election day. Licensed establishments which do most of their business on food are allowed to open and serve alcohol as normal. IIRC, bars which don't serve food can't open until 8 p.m. after the polls close.
So, it ain't just KY, but it's not a Federal law.
05-21-2003, 07:07
You're right, Jeff, that was a bit understated! What can I say--I have laconic ways. After reading so many great things about Stagg, I had to try it. I trekked all the way to D.C. to get my two bottles, and the Stagg was well worth the effort. (I also picked up some Sazerac rye, Eagle Rare 17, and a bottle of Old Rip Van Winkle 90 proof, since I was in the neighborhood.) Stagg is certainly one of the most flavor-packed bourbons I've sampled so far. I was most impressed, however, with how gentle the finish was for such a high proof whiskey. Stagg truly is a benchmark.
I hope I put that flogging off for at least another day! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
05-21-2003, 07:35
Ok Tommy, you're cleared for now, but we've got your name and we'll be watching you http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif If you really want to clear the air, you might try posting some tasting notes on that Eagle Rare 17 or the Sazerac Rye.
05-21-2003, 09:45
Do you mind me asking where exactly you found Stagg in DC? I'm still a Stagg-virgin...mostly due to lack of availability.
05-21-2003, 11:11
I picked up my Stagg at Central Liquors, which is on F Street, somewhere between 12th and 9th Streets. Be warned: their prices are a bit high (Stagg is around $50 there, whereas bourbonians in other places have reported prices of $40 or less). I don't know if that's because the supply is dwindling, or if it's just more expensive on the east coast. There was one bottle left back in March, so call ahead. Their information is available at www.centralliquors.com. (http://www.centralliquors.com.) Hope this helps.
05-21-2003, 13:18
Awesome! Thanks for the heads-up! I've visited there before when I was on a quest for another rarity.
05-21-2003, 16:34
Weller 7yo Special Reserve. Decent bourbon for $10, but far from the level of the 12yo IMHO. This one seems to take on some of the qualities of the "Antique" 107 proof that I don't like. I had at first thought it was a function of higher proof, but now I am wondering if this bourbon just needs some age on it to become special. How old is the Antique anyway? I'll check later. So far my favorite is the 12yo followed by the 10yo Centennial, the 7yo Special Reserve, and at a DISTANT last place, the "Antique", which I doubt is all that "Antique"
05-21-2003, 19:52
I was having some of my first bootle of Old Charter Classic 90 earlier tonight, retrieved during from my recent trip to L'ville. But, after dinner, I read some more SB.com and had Jeff prompting me about the Weller 12 yo.
So, as I am about to settle down and continue the book I started on the airplane last night, I put some Weller 12 yo in one of my new Getz Musuem glasses. Damn, this Weller is good. It makes the Old Charter seem limp. Anyhow, a book and a bourbon are waiting for me. See you all later.
P.S. Yesterday, we had a high alert at the airports. Yet, I walk into the L'ville airport with seven bottles of bourbon in a box to carry on the plane. I thought for sure the security folks would give me a good going over. But, they just rolled it on through their xray machine and didn't say a word to me. I thought that they would tear that box apart and make sure that I didn't have any flammable liquids. I mean, how can they tell on the machine that it's not gasoline?
05-21-2003, 19:58
Watching the finals of American Idol, tonight (Go, Reuben!), I had an Old Forester 100 on the rocks. Very satisfying.
05-21-2003, 22:56

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Watching the finals of American Idol, tonight (Go, Reuben)
Sigh...I got addicted to this show after my wife started watching it. I watched the finals tonite drinking some Weller 12 y.o. This is such a nice mellow bourbon...a great bourbon at a great price.
And, BTW, I was torn between Rueben and Clay...I thought both of them (and Kimberly Locke) were excellent singers.
05-22-2003, 08:24
Chuck, your post reminded me of an incident last year when I was going through the security check at the Salt Lake Airport. My carry on bag got some strange looks from the security lady as it went through the x-ray. She placed the bag over to one side and requested assistance from other personnel. I was expecting the worst. But all they did was run the bag through the x-ray again, stare and gawk for a few minutes and then let the bag pass through. They handed the bag to me and I asked if there was a problem. They said that at first there appeared to be a suspicious looking object in my bag but after a second inspection, the object did not show up. And they were okay with that! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
I was so tempted to say something like, "Great, my disappearing bomb passed inspection!" but we all know where that would've landed me....
By the way, are there any restrictions or guidelines for bringing alcohol on a plane? As long as the bottles are unopened and within your carry-on or other luggage, is there a limit to how many bottles you have with you?
05-22-2003, 10:53
Three of my seven bottles were already opened. I have carried open bottles on several times without any hassle.
05-22-2003, 17:41
I agree. Him being a local young man, I supported Reuben all the way. I honestly feel like he is the best.
However, I had some second thoughts last night when I heard Kimberly sing "Midnight Train to Georgia". Her perfomance was spot on. I'm not sure I have ever heard anyone sing anything better than that.
Clay is very good, too. I don't take anything away from his talent, I just prefer Reuben and Kimberly.
05-22-2003, 18:28
Elijah Craig 12yo. Whisky Magazine awarded this bourbon a co-gold medal along side Pappy 20yo. I can see why! And at only 1/6th the cost, this one is a no brainer! Good Stuff!
05-22-2003, 18:49
I have a sister and her husband flew to Germany with a bottle of EC12 that was open and they had drinks from it on the flight over. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif Of course this was before Sept , 01 I don't know the airline, or what protocol they have for this. I have heard of people being cut off from the liquor supply on a flight. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/frown.gif
05-22-2003, 18:49
Enjoying a large Manhattan made from my high-proof 'mingled' decanter.
I've 'mingled' up a confederation of 2 parts Rare Breed 108, 3 parts Knob Creek 100, 2 parts Old Forester 100, 2 parts David Nicholson 100 and 1 part WT Rye 101. Pretty danged tasty.
05-23-2003, 00:25
I do admire Reuben for the way he consistently supported the old 205!!
05-23-2003, 14:18
I haven't been partial to EC 12 yo in the past, but maybe that is changing. While I was in Bardstown last week, Bobby, Brenda, my sister, and my Grandmother stopped at Talbot's for a drink. I wanted to have a HH bourbon given that Bettye Jo had been so helpful to my family that day. I chose EC 12 yo. I don't know the exact reason why, but it tasted much more appealing to me. I made a point to try it again, and I will, as soon as I clear some room in my cabinet.
05-23-2003, 14:27

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I don't know the exact reason why, but it tasted much more appealing to me.
Any Bourbon tastes good at the Talbot! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
05-23-2003, 14:34
Amen, bourbon brother Bobby! http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
05-23-2003, 17:53
Thanks. I read in this morning's paper where a group of prominent Birmingham businessmen stated that it is doing Birmingham's image a world of good that he speaks so highly of the area, with him being black and now so famous and popular.
05-23-2003, 18:40
While on the subject , I haven't had a drink since last Saturday at the Talbot with CL . I think I'll have one tonight. I feel like toast after the work week. Don't know what I'll have though. Stagg has reappeared here, Tempting. If I come up with something interesting I'll be back. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/grin.gif
05-23-2003, 19:07
Well, just Evan Williams, It is nice to have a simple drink and be so pleasurable at the same time. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/wink.gif
05-24-2003, 10:37
Last night at Desha's I had a Pappy Van Winkle 20yo with a nice piece of medium-rare beef tenderloin. I'm not sure a better combination exists anywhere http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/cool.gif
05-24-2003, 19:27
VWFR Rye, The balance of flavor and proof is most
appealing to me. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smile.gif I drink it with a splash of water. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
05-25-2003, 16:20
Old Grand Dad BIB. This is a great, "I've had a bad day" bourbon. The 100 proof quiets the pain, while the rye kick reminds you that if you can handle this, you can take on the world!
05-25-2003, 18:32
I can think of a combination or two, but then again, I might get moderated. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/shocked.gif
05-25-2003, 18:33
Hope tomorrow turns out better for you. But, if it doesn't, and you need a stronger kick, Stagg will do you right. http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
05-28-2003, 18:56
Surprise visit from the Regional VP. "Dropped in" on his way from Michigan to Nashville. I'm celebrating my survival with Sushi and a Woodford Manhattan. Now let's see. What goes with Red Bean Ice cream? http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/ubbthreads/images/icons/smirk.gif
05-30-2003, 19:46
A very good night, with a good pace of different bourbons throughout the evening.
After work, I sat on the back porch with a book and ORVW 10 yo. Supper was ready, I left the book and ORVW on the porch and picked up the rest of the original ORVW pour for dessert and knocked off a couple more chapters.
The neighbors gathered next door in the driveway. I waited awhile to have another. But, my neighbor was smoking a Macanudo, so when he went for another beer, I picked Stagg to stand up to the smoke.
A little while later, they all wanted bourbon after taking a whiff of the Stagg, so I brought out Buffalo Trace and we all had a drink before closing it out for the night.
To some young folks, this may seem boring, but for me at my stage in life, it was a very fine evening.
05-30-2003, 19:55
That may sound boring to some...but to me it sounds like a great relaxing evening http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. I'm doing pretty much the same thing...sipping on some Old Fitz 12yr....except indoors because here in Dallas its 94 degrees and 10:00 at night!! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/hot.gif
05-31-2003, 07:40
Any weather is bourbon weather. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif
We've had a cooler and wetter than usual May this year (highs in the 70s) so last night was a nice dry 70 degrees after sunset. The cigars kept the bugs away. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif It's amazing that last May was just the opposite - warmer than normal (highs in the 90s) and severe drought. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
05-31-2003, 09:43
Yesterday I had a little OFBB, as in life is too short............ I think I'll have Weller 19 today. I thought I didn't care if I ever had any more of it at all, then I noticed that somehow I have managed to get a bottle pulled down to half. I must like this more than I am willing to admit. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif
The weather, it is a good day for rocks, yesterday was as well! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
05-31-2003, 13:31
Needless to say, here in Las Vegas, bars (especially those in casinos) don't close for anything, let alone election day. I usually need a stiff drink before I drink anyway.
05-31-2003, 17:10
I finally got it with the Weller 19, It just hit me today. The nose and a lot of bourbons are similiar but this transported me back in time sometimes I would accompany my Granddad at Beams and I remember pressing my face against the screens at the bottom of the warehouse and get a whiff of all that wonderful bourbon aging. Of course there wasn't any wheaters there but it seemed so much like I remembered it. There's something about the way the air circulates in those houses, even on a very hot day you get a cool blast at ground level. The Weller, it occured to me what a shame it would be to fall in love with this one at the bottom of your last bottle. Better bunker a few! http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif
05-31-2003, 17:22
A very good night, with a good pace of different bourbons throughout the evening.
After work, I sat on the back porch with a book and ORVW 10 yo. Supper was ready, I left the book and ORVW on the porch and picked up the rest of the original ORVW pour for dessert and knocked off a couple more chapters.
The neighbors gathered next door in the driveway. I waited awhile to have another. But, my neighbor was smoking a Macanudo, so when he went for another beer, I picked Stagg to stand up to the smoke.
A little while later, they all wanted bourbon after taking a whiff of the Stagg, so I brought out Buffalo Trace and we all had a drink before closing it out for the night.
To some young folks, this may seem boring, but for me at my stage in life, it was a very fine evening.
Sounds like one hell of a good time to me. I wish I had bourbon-drinking Macanudo-smoking next door neighbors. Some guys have all the luck http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
05-31-2003, 17:26
Weller 12yo http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif. I wanted to get a couple bottles of the 19yo, but Leslie was with me. It will be better for my general happiness if she doesn't know that Weller 19yo isn't a $19 bourbon http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/lol.gif I have gone about 10 days without a bottle of the 12yo and it has been hard lived http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/banghead.gif
05-31-2003, 18:34
Earlier today I heard a blues tune on the radio, It had the line, " Life is no good if you're not with the people you love." more or less. I think we can all relate to that on some level. I raise a glass of Stagg to the people that give meaning to my life , and to those who give the same to you.
06-01-2003, 07:38
Bobby, I had a similar experience with my bottle of Wathen's. Only in the last three drinks did I come to really appreciate it. The first (most) part of the bottle reminded me of Evan Williams. Once I "got it", it seemed to be very similar to Pappy 20 or Eagle Rare. http://www.straightbourbon.com/forums/images/graemlins/yum.gif
I will have to go out of state, again, to get another bottle.
06-01-2003, 07:40
That's right, Bobby.
06-01-2003, 10:38
I liked everything about Wathens from the get go, Before Stagg I thought all I would ever need was a case of Wathens in the bunker. However, The price on Wathens is creeping up about 3 bucks in 3 years. It will soon break 30 if that holds. I saw somewhere that Medley is getting to the bottom of his whiskey and will have to get it made by someone else( Will it be more Heaven Hill in a different bottle? Love the Hill but give me Evan and Elijah!)
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A predictive modeling primer for marketers. Part one of a series.
Why will marketers spend literally hours discussing whether the a headline should be 12- or 16-point type but completely neglect to use analytics to investigate their consumer data and increase response rates?
In a recent survey, I discovered many marketers are interested in more information about predictive modeling. Their self-reported interest level is high, but their knowledge level is low.
If you're a marketer, especially in the telecommunications, financial, insurance, credit, banking, or retail industries, and you don't extensively use sophisticated predictive models to increase marketing return on investment (ROI), you need to read this column and implement predictive modeling.
Part one explains the basics of what a model is and how it's developed. The following parts will describe different types of algorithms (regression, CHAID, etc.) used in model development, as well as how models are used.
What Is a Predictive Model?
A predictive model is simply an equation used to predict something.
In a silly but effective example, I often illustrate what a predictive model is by collecting shoe sizes and heights from a group of people. Then, using SPSS (define), I make a quick x/y plot that shows how generally taller people have larger shoes sizes than shorter people. Then I use SPSS to quickly determine an equation that allows me to predict someone's shoe size if I know his height.
That equation is a predictive model. That's really all there is to it.
Obviously in marketing, you're not usually interested in predicting a customer's shoe size, but you are interested in predicting:
If the correct data are available, we can use them (along with some sort of statistical software package) to develop a predictive model that will tell us the answer to each of the above questions. Marketers then use the predictive model (i.e., the equation) to score and rank prospects based how much money they're likely to spend, how likely they are to respond to an offer, and so on. Marketers can then tailor their efforts accordingly.
Why Is It Important?
Direct marketing's most important aspect is your specific target market. In the case of email, direct mail, or outbound telemarketing, your target market is specified by your lists. It doesn't matter how good your product or service is or how wonderful your creative. If you send your piece to the wrong list, results will be poor.
A predictive model provides you with the best names possible. That results in the best possible response to your marketing efforts.
How Are They Developed?
To develop a predictive model, you must first decide exactly what it is you want to predict. There are many possibilities, including:
After you know what you're trying to predict, you then must make sure the correct data are available for model development. If you don't have appropriate initial data from which to build the model, a sample test may have to be run to collect some. You might conduct a small test campaign for a new product across a number of market segments and use the resulting data to develop a model of who buys the product.
Once the required data set is acquired, statistical analysis software (e.g., SAS (define), SPSS) is used to determine which variables influence what you're trying to predict. You might find, for example, the response rate to your mailing varies by recipient's income and age. Income and age are then considered "predictive" variables, since you can use them to predict how likely someone is to respond. After determining which variables are predictive, the analysis software determines the "weights" (or "coefficients") for each predictive variable.
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There are a few different algorithms from which an analyst or marketer can chose when she wants to develop a model. I'll discuss those in part two (as well as the software packages that feature the algorithms) and describe how models are used. I'll also discuss the results they can help you achieve.
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Date & Walnut Bread
If you remember date-nut bread from your youth, this recipe will take you right back. To complete the nostalgia, serve the bread spread lightly with reduced-fat or fat-free cream cheese.
2 cups pitted dates (10 ounces), chopped
1 cup boiling water
1-1/2 cups old-fashioned rolled oats
1 cup walnuts
1-1/2 cups flour
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon baking powder
1/2 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 cup packed light brown sugar
1/2 cup molasses
2 tablespoons extra-light olive oil
1 large egg
1 large egg white
1 Preheat the oven to 350°F. Spray two 8-1/2 x 4-1/2-inch loaf pans with nonstick cooking spray.
2 In a medium heatproof bowl, combine the dates and boiling water. Let stand while you prepare the remaining ingredients.
3 Place the oats in a baking pan and bake for 10 minutes, or until crisp and golden brown. Bake the walnuts in a separate pan for 7 minutes, or until lightly crisped. When cool enough to handle, coarsely chop the walnuts. Transfer the oats to a food processor and process until finely ground.
4 In a large bowl, stir together the flour, salt, baking powder, baking soda, and ground oats.
5 Add the brown sugar, molasses, oil, whole egg, and egg white to the bowl with the dates (and soaking water), and stir to combine.
6 Make a well in the center of the flour mixture. Add the date mixture and walnuts, and stir just until moistened. Spoon the batter into the pans. Bake for 55 minutes, or until a toothpick inserted in the center of a loaf comes out clean. Cool them for 5 minutes in the pans on a rack, then turn out onto the rack to cool completely. Makes 24 slices
Makes 24 slices servings.
Per slice: 164 calories, 4.5g total fat (0.6g saturated), 9mg cholesterol, 2g dietary fiber, 30g carbohydrate, 3g protein, 152mg sodium.


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COLLEGEVILLE, Pa., Oct. 5 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Wyeth Pharmaceuticals, a division of Wyeth (NYSE: WYE), presented new data today from two Phase 3 studies, which showed that bazedoxifene/conjugated estrogens reduced the number and severity of hot flashes in symptomatic postmenopausal women by up to 80 percent, when compared with placebo. These data, presented at the North American Menopause Society Annual Meeting, also showed that bazedoxifene/conjugated estrogens improved symptoms of vulvar and vaginal atrophy. In addition, secondary data from both studies showed that when compared with placebo, bazedoxifene/conjugated estrogens reduced sleep disturbances and improved menopause-related quality of life.
"The pairing of bazedoxifene, a selective estrogen receptor modulator, or SERM, with conjugated estrogens may lead to a new class of menopausal therapy called tissue selective estrogen complex, or TSEC," says Ginger Constantine, M.D., Vice President, Women's Health Care and Bone Repair, Wyeth Pharmaceuticals. "TSECs pair the benefits of estrogens with SERMs to create a distinct clinical profile, which may provide relief of hot flashes and vaginal dryness as well as bone and uterine protection."
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Crans-Montana Tourism
By Digix Sàrl
Open iTunes to buy and download apps.
v. 2.0
This new version of the « Crans-Montana » application has been redesigned to facilitate your stay in Crans-Montana (Tourist Resort in the Swiss Alps). It incorporates a tourist directory and a city map and other essential tools.
Moreover, it provides information on :
The condition of the area (slopes and hiking trails) and opening of the facilities
Local weather
Seasonal activities
Directory of services
Accommodation, dining and shopping facilities
What's New in Version 2.1.5
- bugs with call icon fixed
- Free
- Category: Travel
- Updated: 13 August 2015
- Version: 2.1.5
- Size: 70.1 MB
- Languages: English, French, German, Italian
- Developer: Digix Sarl
- © Crans-Montana Tourisme
Compatibility: Requires iOS 6.0 or later. Compatible with iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch.


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BackgroundA classic good versus evil struggle is going on in the galaxy. You must climb into your Turrican Assault Suit and take to the battlefield and fight. 15 levels of side scrolling action await you over 5 different worlds. The power of your suit is the only thing that will see you through the waves of weaker enemies. Once you dispatch them and get enough practice, tougher enemies will be heading your way with more powerful weapons. Fight to survive!
Crumb played Mega Turrican
Offendr owns Mega Turrican
Deathman48added 3 new screenshots
Jun 17, 05 12:36am
- Genre: Action Shooter
- Developer: Factor 5
- Publisher: Data East
Released North America Jun 7, 1994


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THE DRUGS ISSUE. Decriminalizing Drugs in Portugal a Success, Says Report. Pop quiz: Which European country has the most liberal drug laws?
(Hint: It's not the Netherlands.) Although its capital is notorious among stoners and college kids for marijuana haze–filled "coffee shops," Holland has never actually legalized cannabis — the Dutch simply don't enforce their laws against the shops. The correct answer is Portugal, which in 2001 became the first European country to officially abolish all criminal penalties for personal possession of drugs, including marijuana, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine.
At the recommendation of a national commission charged with addressing Portugal's drug problem, jail time was replaced with the offer of therapy. The argument was that the fear of prison drives addicts underground and that incarceration is more expensive than treatment — so why not give drug addicts health services instead? The question is, does the new policy work?
Compared to the European Union and the U.S., Portugal's drug use numbers are impressive. HOW TO NOT DO DRUGS LIKE A COMPLETE MORON - Vice Magazine. Cannabis (Marijuana) Vault : Effects. The primary effects sought by those using cannabis recreationally are euphoria, relaxation, and changes in perception.
Effects vary depending on dosage, with effects at low doses including a sense of well-being, mild enhancement of senses (smell, taste, hearing), subtle changes in thought and expression, talkativeness, giggling, increased appreciation of music, increased appetite, and mild closed-eye visuals. At higher doses, sense of time is altered, attention span and memory are frequently affected, and thought processes and mental perception may be significantly altered. One of the most common comments about cannabis is that it enhances the appreciation of sensory experiences without substantially changing the perceptual experience. Will Mushrooms Be the New Weed? - LAist. As Californians consider whether or not to vote on the legalization of marijuana this November, a study conducted at a Johns Hopkins University lab is now launching a look into the potential health and wellness benefits of illegal mushrooms, too.
Alcohol Vault : Blood Alcohol Chart. Alcohol affects individuals differently.
Your blood alcohol level may be affected by your age, gender, physical condition, amount of food consumed and any drugs or medication. In addition, different drinks may contain different amounts of alcohol, so it's important to know how much and the concentration of alcohol you consume. For purposes of this guide, "one drink" is equal to 1.25 oz. of 80 proof liquor, 12 oz. of regular beer, or 5 oz. of table wine.
A woman drinking an equal amount of alcohol in the same period of time as a man of an equivalent weight may have a higher blood alcohol level than that man. Therefore, women should refer to the female "Know Your Limits" chart. Some states have set .08% Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) as the legal limit for Driving Under the Influence while others are .10%. Data from the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board. & Top 10 Cannabis Studies the Government Wished it Had Never Funded. 10) MARIJUANA USE HAS NO EFFECT ON MORTALITY: A massive study of California HMO members funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found marijuana use caused no significant increase in mortality.
Tobacco use was associated with increased risk of death. Sidney, S et al. Marijuana Use and Mortality. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 87 No. 4, April 1997. p. 585-590. 9) HEAVY MARIJUANA USE AS A YOUNG ADULT WON'T RUIN YOUR LIFE: Veterans Affairs scientists looked at whether heavy marijuana use as a young adult caused long-term problems later, studying identical twins in which one twin had been a heavy marijuana user for a year or longer but had stopped at least one month before the study, while the second twin had used marijuana no more than five times ever. 7) PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK (PART I): The White House had the National Research Council examine the data being gathered about drug use and the effects of U.S. drug policies. LSD Blotter Art Archive.
Character Vaults : Famous People and their Drug Use. Famous People and Their Drug Use.
DMT Vaults : Extraction : QTs DMT Extraction Guide. NOTE OF WARNING:QT's DMT Extraction for Students is archived by Erowid as a historical document.
The process as described has been critiqued as flawed and dangerous several ways. Safer and more effective DMT extraction and purification techniques have been developed and made available in the years since the document below was created. For one such process, see Noman's "DMT for the Masses". Specific concerns regarding QT's tek, detailed below, were sent to Erowid on behalf of the community at The DMT Nexus, who note: "Time and time again, people have come to The DMT Nexus or other web forums because they were following QT's tek and it either didn't work or they ran into serious issues trying to follow it.
Our largest concerns with QT's tek are related to health and safety. Health and Safety Concerns 1) The tek recommends using hydrochloric acid without appropriate guidance on safe handling.